[05:25] <Snoops> The program I import them into, I really want to be able to export all my account info as well as emails from it, in the future.. so if you know of a program which does that Aeo :)
[05:25] <Dr_Geek> brb
[05:26] <RizCk> * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ]
[05:26] <RizCk>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [fail]
[05:26] <RizCk> brb
[05:26] <RizCk> let me try
[05:26] <Snoops> RizCk sudo..
[05:26] <dooglus> phoghawk: "man fstab" will tell you for sure.  it's to do with the order of mounting, and whether to check them, maybe?
[05:26] <phoghawk> dooglus, cool, thanks
[05:26] <navaburo> nickrud: gotcha
[05:26] <Aeo> Snoops: I know of the Outport program <http://outport.sourceforge.net/> which says it converts to Evolution, though I have no knowledge of it myself.
[05:27] <Snoops> err what about exporting from evolution?
[05:27] <Aeo> Snoops: Oh frick!
[05:27] <dooglus> Snoops: evolution uses mbox format for its messages, same as outlook express I think
[05:28] <Aeo> Snoops: No mail exporting, argh
[05:28] <phoghawk> navaburo, I have both of those, would you like me to pastebin my sources.list?
[05:28] <dereks> so i have a weird bug, when copying a huge file, the speed goes from full speed -> nothing -> fullspeed -> nothing -> etc
[05:28] <dereks> anyone know why
[05:28] <kiroh> but all the mostly all the videos in internet are in avi format ... i have downloaded the pakage for windows codecs, but it still not work ... sorry about my english
[05:28] <dooglus> dereks: speed of what?
[05:28] <navaburo> phoghawk: no, thanks anyway, i got it
[05:28] <phoghawk> navaburo, okay
[05:28] <dereks> the transfer
[05:28] <nickrud> I spent a day moving all my mail out of evolution into a maildir format, evo sucks for that
[05:28] <dereks> dooglus: across the netowrk
[05:29] <dooglus> dereks: could it be because your network connection is faster than your disk?
[05:29] <lastnode> what do i need to play mp3s in gstreamer?
[05:29] <KanRiNiN> !mousebuttons
[05:29] <lastnode> sorry
[05:29] <ubotu> mousebuttons is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[05:29] <lastnode> rhytm box
[05:29] <Snoops> man that totally sucks.  I have 10 email accounts.. so it's annoying to have to keep track of it all..
[05:29] <dooglus> dereks: so the network downloads a bunch, then waits while the disk catches up?
[05:29] <Andross> this is the entry i have in my fstab that allows my user to access a second mounted hard drive: /dev/hdc1       /home/andrew/Storage/Music      auto    defaults,user,auto      0       0
[05:29] <dumbledore> hi im having a problem with the install stuff :/ (still)
[05:29] <dereks> dooglus: faster than sda? it is only going 12mbit
[05:29] <Snoops> I hope thunderbird isn't as terrible
[05:29] <Andross> then as root mount -a will mount anything in the fstab
[05:29] <dereks> dooglus: i meant sata
[05:29] <maxy_noob> It's such a Windows world, isn't it?
[05:29] <Andross> if that makes any sense
[05:29] <nathanael> how do I add my newly installed sshd to the default runlevel?
[05:30] <cge> maxy_noob: How so?
[05:30] <dumbledore> it repartitioned my drive like i asked but now my other drive is acting very slowly :/
[05:30] <dooglus> dereks: it's not that then...
[05:30] <dereks> dooglus: :) i am using scp to transfer
[05:30] <nickrud> nathanael, if you used the ubuntu package, it's already there ...
[05:30] <dereks> could that mean anything?
[05:30] <nathanael> ok
[05:30] <nathanael> shanks
[05:30] <cge> nathanael: You can use System/Administration/Services if it isn't.
[05:30] <maxy_noob> everything's simply made for it, and it's so easy to use.
[05:30] <dooglus> dereks: how's the CPU load looking on the machine if you watch it with 'top -d .5' while transferring?
[05:30] <maxy_noob> I'm really not a windows fanboy either.
[05:30] <Aeo> Snoops: I have final options.
[05:30] <maxy_noob> It's just a sigh.
[05:30] <nathanael> I had to switch to FC5 on my laptop for work reasons, and I miss the ubuntu community in the good 'ol IRC
[05:31] <dereks> dooglus: not too bad ... .75
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> nathanael,  just install some RH themes. :P
[05:31] <Aeo> Snoops: First, you can try this <http://sourceforge.net/projects/ol2mbox> which should convert PST to MBOX, which TBird can import
[05:31] <nathanael> haha
[05:31] <nickrud> nathanael, you saying fedora is not nice ?
[05:31] <dooglus> dereks: scp uses more CPU than plain copying, due to the encryption, but it's nothing most modern CPUs can't handle
[05:31] <maxy_noob> Ubuntu's great, but there still so much to figure out before making any definitive move (at least for me)
[05:31] <dereks> dooglus: it is only using 29% of the allotted cpu (about)
[05:31] <cge> dooglus: I've found that it can be significantly slower in transferring though.
[05:31] <nathanael> nice, but it's the overwhelming sense of community with Ubuntu that gets me
[05:31] <Snoops> hmm okay thanks Aeo.. I guess thunderbird doesn't let you export your account details thouhg
[05:31] <nathanael> It's unreal
[05:32] <Aeo> Snoops: Second: You can get yourself a copy of Outlook Express which does convert to another format
[05:32] <kiroh> can every one help me using x-chat and totem??
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> maxy_noob,  it pays to learn the fundamentals of linux. and do lots of reading. :P and rereading.
[05:32] <dereks> cge: really? do you have the same problem i have?
[05:32] <nicoco> hi !
[05:32] <dooglus> cge: he's getting fast transfers, then nothing, then fast, then nothing - why would it be 'bursty' like that?
[05:32] <phoghawk> kiroh, what do you need help with?
[05:32] <Snoops> Aeo the idea is to move away from windows apps :)
[05:32] <nickrud> nathanael, you probably will never meet him, cuz he's gone: bob2 bootstrapped this channel
[05:32] <maxy_noob> I guess.
[05:32] <dereks> dooglus: exactly
[05:32] <Aeo> Hey nicoco!
[05:32] <cge> dooglus: No, I get stable somewhat-slow transfers.
[05:32] <nicoco> is there a way to install fglrx module without rebooting (from livecd) ?
[05:32] <Aeo> Snoops: I understand, but it's merely an intermediary between your Windows app and your Linux
[05:32] <dooglus> dereks: could it be that the other machine is having problems reading the file from its disk fast enough?
[05:33] <dereks> dooglus: it should be ok also, its on a PATA
[05:33] <nathanael> ?
[05:33] <cge> dooglus: DMA maybe?
[05:33] <dereks> cge: DMA?
[05:33] <nathanael> Well, thanks again all
[05:33] <dooglus> Direct Memory Access
[05:33] <kiroh> xchat and totem ... i have problems with totem, but i cant understand some things about this xchat, because it is the first time i use it
[05:33] <nickrud> nathanael, I've been reminising, you filt well
[05:33] <cge> dereks: Is dma enabled on the drive that is reading the file?
[05:33] <dereks> dooglus: what will that do for this though
[05:33] <KanRiNiN> hmm..completely screwed up the scroll wheel.
[05:33] <dereks> cge: how do i find out?
[05:34] <dragonseye78> Big prob...
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> kiroh,  notice the xchat help menu item? :P  heh
[05:34] <lastnode> anyone here got their shuffles working with gtkpod?
[05:34] <cge> dereks: With hdparm /dev/{DRIVE-NAME}
[05:34] <phoghawk> kiroh, I don't know a lot about it either, I just know how to type, press enter, and auto-enter peoples names
[05:34] <kiroh> how can i speak whit only one person?
[05:34] <nickrud> dragonseye78, ask, maybe, if you're lucky, someone has the answer
[05:34] <nickrud> kiroh, /msg <nick>
[05:34] <nicoco> i want to test if ubuntu works fine with my ATI before installing it ? anyone know a way to load ATI proprietary driver without rebooting ?
[05:34] <dooglus> kiroh: you need to register first, with nickserv, and then can "/query dooglus" to open a window to me
[05:35] <dragonseye78> I have multiple users set up, ATI 9800Pro, only my account gets decent FPS
[05:35] <dereks> cge: using_dma    =  1 (on)
[05:35] <phoghawk> dooglus, what's nickserv? lol
[05:35] <cge> nicoco: Do you need the closed driver? The open driver generally works very well.
[05:35] <kiroh> ok
[05:35] <cge> dereks: Hmm... that isn't it then.
[05:35] <nekostar> eh
[05:35] <nekostar> wish there was portage for ubuntu :/
[05:35] <kiroh> nickserv
[05:35] <nickrud> dragonseye78, you want to add your users to the video group probably
[05:35] <kiroh> esadafuhsdlj
[05:35] <dooglus> phoghawk: it's how you register your nickname here.  type "/msg nickserv register babababa" (where that last word is a password of your choice)
[05:35] <cge> nekostar: What do you mean? What feature do you need from portage?
[05:35] <nicoco> to be honest, i want to try XGL
[05:35] <kiroh> i will read the help first
[05:36] <phoghawk> dooglus, is there a particular reason you do that? just to retain your username?
[05:36] <cge> nicoco: Ah! I see.
[05:36] <PMantis> Is it reasonable to have a RAID5 software array mounted as / ?
[05:36] <nicoco> ;)
[05:36] <dragonseye78> Well, I have it set up for them to use 3d graphics... how else would you set that up?
[05:36] <nicoco> cge : so is there a way ?
[05:36] <dooglus> phoghawk: this network won't let you talk privately if you're not registered.
[05:36] <dereks> maybe its because xorg is using 50% of the cpu on the other machine (sshd using the other 50!)
[05:36] <phoghawk> dooglus, oh, okay, thanks
[05:36] <cge> dereks: That could be!
[05:36] <dooglus> phoghawk: but yes, it's a way of reserving your nick.  next time you log in, type "/msg nickserv identify babababab" to prove you're the same person.
[05:37] <dooglus> dereks: xorg doesn't usually use a lot of CPU - is the other machine running a heavy screensaver?
[05:37] <cge> nicoco: You might be able to install the driver on the LiveCD. I'm not sure.
[05:37] <dereks> dooglus: it shouldn't be
[05:37] <nickrud> dragonseye78, agpart is rw for root and the group video only, add your users to the group video
[05:38] <cge> dereks: Is it running Dapper?
[05:38] <dereks> cge: yea
[05:38] <cge> dereks: Gnome-screensaver does not properly detect when a screen is not being shown.
[05:38] <dooglus> dereks: what's on its X display that could be keeping xorg busy?
[05:38] <dragonseye78> I'll play with that,thanx
[05:39] <dereks> cge, dooglus: it was just a vnc session that i killed, xorg is off now and not hogging the cpu
[05:39] <dereks> same problem though
[05:39] <dereks> and the load averagei s going down a lot
[05:39] <syllogism> what is that web site that has the unofficial repositories listed?? - I completely forgot the name
[05:39] <nekostar> cge,
[05:40] <nekostar> the ability to easily compile correctly any piece of software i can think of.
[05:40] <dragonseye78> Just checked, all accounts are showing under "Video"
[05:40] <dooglus> dereks: can you try transferring a file using http, or ftp, or some other protocol?
[05:40] <nekostar> i literally would love a portage package
[05:40] <nickrud> dragonseye78, you might also want to consider adding them to the groups dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner for other access
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> syllogism, google "ubuntu source-o-matic" and click on first hit
[05:40] <cge> nekostar: Hmm... there is apt-get source, or apt-build.
[05:40] <syllogism> thanks
[05:40] <dereks> dooglus: i don't think its the protocol (plus i am transferring a huge file, don't want to stop it now
[05:41] <dooglus> dereks: if you "pkill -STOP scp", it will pause the transfer without killing it dead.  "pkill -CONT scp" will resume it
[05:41] <cge> dereks: Just start transferring some random file and see if it has the same behavior. Maybe from a different disk, if you can.
[05:42] <Stormy> is there a way to make apt use more than one thread for building applications on a dual processor machine?
[05:42] <cge> Stormy: what are you using to build?
[05:42] <dooglus> dereks: how's the CPU on the remote box now that xorg is behaving itself?  is sshd using 100% now?
[05:42] <nf4> do all linux torrent clients run in the background? when restart the shut down log shows "stopping torrent tracker"
[05:42] <Stormy> cge dual p3 1ghz 2gb ram
[05:42] <Stormy> and apt
[05:42] <PFA> can someone help me with wma support for xmms? i have already tried RestrictedFormats (i already have w32codecs) and the solution on the XMMS wiki page (404 error) andi even tried EasyUbuntu but it is still not working. and i am VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SURE that the files are NOT DRMed.
[05:42] <nf4> as far as i know trackers are the server the the torrent is linked to
[05:42] <cge> Stormy: How do you build something with apt? You mean apt-get source, or apt-build?
[05:42] <Blue89> something very strange just happened
[05:42] <dooglus> nf4: it says that for me even though I uninstalled the bittorrent package.
[05:42] <Stormy> cge apt-get
[05:43] <dereks> cge, dooglus i just tried via ftp (not encrypted) same problem
[05:43] <Blue89> could anyone read what I wrote before?
[05:43] <dereks> cpu is fine now, load of 55
[05:43] <nf4> when i uninstalled bit torrrent that stoped
[05:43] <Aeo> Hey! Is it possible to use a floppy (or other removable media) to boot to Ubuntu? As in, I'd like to boot to XP if nothing is in the drive so that the rest of my family does not have to deal with a boot screen.
[05:43] <cge> dereks: Same disk?
[05:43] <scotty> is there anyway to make ubuntu use usernames like firstname.lastname?
[05:43] <dooglus> Blue89: I didn't see you say anything for a long time
[05:43] <nickrud> PFA, there are very recent wma formats that are not yet support, as I hear
[05:43] <dereks> cge, dooglus: source disk was the same (only one disc on the comp) remote disk was different
[05:43] <Stormy> cge alright nm, i'm just dumb sometimes i forgot deb's were binary
[05:43] <Blue89> dooglus, ty
[05:43] <Stormy> sorry cge
[05:43] <dooglus> scotty: you can use longer usernames if you like
[05:43] <nickrud> PFA, do you have a link to one that doesn't work?
[05:43] <nf4> it is odd becouse i dosnt show up under the system resources
[05:44] <scotty> when i tried to use that username on the install it got kinda ticked at me.
[05:44] <Blue89> I had a failed hibernation session, then my desktop environment was not opening
[05:44] <cge> Stormy: Oh - I see. You can actually build files using apt-get source, in which case you want to change the debian/rules file to use make -j NUM_OF_PROCS instead of make.
[05:44] <dragonseye78> jsut set up on some other groups, will try, thanx
[05:44] <PFA> nickrud: it is a bunch of files; none of my WMA files will work
[05:44] <dooglus> scotty: oh, I'm not sure whether dots are allowed in usernames.  I'm not admin on this box so I can't check
[05:44] <nickrud> scotty, periods are not acceptable in usernames I think
[05:44] <Snoops> Aeo there are boot managers on cd..
[05:44] <cge> scotty: I think periods are acceptable - one moment.
[05:44] <scotty> um...my corp. ldap uses them..
[05:45] <nf4> Aeo i know there are guides to flash cards that you can boot from
[05:45] <HedgeMage> Aeo: there are three main ways to do that: livecd (slow but requires the least work), dual boot but make windows the default in grub (medium work, requires enough hard drive space for both), or dual boot but let windows overwrite the MBR so linux won't boot without a boot floppy/cd/usb-drive/whatever
[05:45] <scotty> i think i kinda need that to login.
[05:45] <nickrud> PFA, it's hard to tell, without a hard file to compare
[05:45] <Stormy> cge yea but if i wanted source i'd be using gentoo
[05:45] <nf4> like ubs flash cards
[05:45] <dmb062082> any fix for kernel panic-not syncing: attempted to kill init!
[05:45] <babo> where would I find the crontab of a user, when the systems hd is mounted on to another file system ?  Where is user crontab stored ?
[05:45] <dmb062082> it really sucks, and is keeping me @ fedora
[05:45] <Blue89> I did a ctrl-alt-f1 to find the problem in a terminal, and for some reason, the desktop suddenly opened, and I was allowed to delete a locked file from my desktop. there is a permissions problem, right?
[05:45] <KanRiNiN> Hey guys:  I'm in ircII..when I logged out GDM locked up, and now I can't boot into gnome..ati drivers are fine, it's something I did to the mouse with imwheel package
[05:45] <nf4> or even the regular kind if you use a usb port
[05:46] <dooglus> KanRiNiN: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" help?
[05:46] <dmb062082> apt-get instal kdm
[05:46] <dmb062082> heh heh
[05:46] <cge> scotty: It works, but you have to use --force-badname when using adduser.
[05:46] <Aeo> Um, alright, I'd prefer it if no action were necessary (not even a Grub boot screen) unless I specifically want to boot into Ubuntu, at which point I'd insert some form of media.
[05:46] <AVATAREZ> hello, i have a problem. i have an intel video card (900 on acer travelmate) and the 1st time i play a video it works ok, but the 2nd time it has VERY high contrast
[05:46] <Blue89> I did sudo in the terminal, that must have allowed the desktop environment to show and delete that file
[05:46] <scotty> ah.
[05:46] <scotty> cge: so on the install, just make some regualr account, then create a new one when done?
[05:46] <nickrud> babo, /var/spool/cron/crontabs/
[05:46] <KanRiNiN> no, gdm won't start..I uninstalled the imwheel pacakage, and then it locks up
[05:46] <Aeo> So, HedgeMaze, I think your third option is the best. I'd still like to have Ubuntu reside on its partition, just inaccessible until I want it.
[05:46] <cge> scotty: Yes, if the install program won't let you.
[05:47] <nickrud> badnames, that will be easy to remember :)
[05:47] <KanRiNiN> how do I scroll up in ircII or change consoles?
[05:47] <scotty> cge: cool thanks!
[05:47] <HedgeMage> Aeo: In that case, partition the HD, install ubuntu on one partition, then install windows on the other (windoze will eat the MBR and take it over) just make sure to have an ubuntu boot disk handy for when you want to boot
[05:48] <dooglus> Aeo: that's possible, that's how I used to do it 10 years ago - the PC booted into windows unless I inserted the magic linux boot cd.
[05:48] <cge> scotty: There is the possibility that something will break, but I have found that names with strange chars are generally stable. I've even used one with a | in the name and a tab in the password. Everything worked except GDM, which is broken with regards to password entry :)
[05:48] <scotty> :P
[05:48] <dooglus> Aeo: I don't know how you would make such a boot disk for ubuntu though.  (and I meant 'floppy', not 'cd')
[05:49] <scotty> cge: so is that indicative of an MS domain controller or something?  the dot name thing?
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> q
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> q
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> q
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> asdf
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> help
[05:49] <KanRiNiN> Q
[05:49] <Aeo> HedgeMaze: I already have both installed and would prefer not to have to reinstall Windows or touch that partition at all. I know that the DOS fixmbr command will accomplish the same thing. How do I make an ubuntu boot disk? I wouldn't be the same as a Live CD, would it?
[05:49] <dooglus> KanRiNiN: the pgup key
[05:49] <cge> Aeo: Install GRUB on a disk (you can probably get disk images off the internet), and then add the menu.lst from /boot.
[05:49] <Aeo> dooglus: That's exactly what I would like to have happen.
[05:50] <cge> scotty: I'm not sure.
[05:50] <cge> KanRiNiN: ? And running as root?
[05:50] <KickStand> can somebody help me get my resolution beyond 1024 * 768
[05:50] <dooglus> cge: he left...
[05:50] <cge> dooglus: I know.
[05:51] <AVATAREZ> help?
[05:51] <nickrud> KickStand, sure, you probably need to fix your resolution in xorg.conf, see !fixres below for the web page
[05:51] <nickrud> !fixres
[05:51] <ubotu> Help to fix the display resolution is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:51] <planetcall> hey thanks peeps I just resized my /
[05:51] <KickStand> what do you mean?
[05:51] <HedgeMage> Aeo: I think the livecd can also be used as a boot disk, I know the text-mode CD can... otherwise you can always tell grub to install itself on a removable disk.  What version of windows is it? some have a "repair" utility that will take over the MBR without having to re-install the whole OS
[05:51] <dooglus> KickStand: he means read what ubotu said
[05:52] <KickStand> ah now I see thankn you
[05:52] <planetcall> Amarok is not playing MP3. What else is needed ?
[05:52] <KickStand> thank you that is
[05:52] <HedgeMage> Aeo: (BTW, I'm a maGe, not a maZe, so I don't get highlighted when you type "hedgemaze")
[05:52] <nickrud> KickStand, hm. Ubuntu tries to read your monitor and get the best config for it, the web page makes up for it's lack
[05:52] <Aeo> HedgeMage: It's XP, and I've already used the "fixmbr" command as I've encountered a GRUB error 21 earlier tonight.
[05:53] <Aeo> HedgeMage: And my apologies.
[05:53] <Aeo> cge: That definitely sounds like it'll work, but could you elaborate more on adding the menu.lst?
[05:53] <kiroh> can everyone help me with totem ... i cant see .avi files
[05:54] <HedgeMage> Aeo: I haven't done it on XP, sorry, fixmbr should do it though, I think
[05:54] <nickrud> planetcall, are you using 5.10 or 6.06 ?
[05:54] <DShepherd> kiroh: kiohttp://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[05:54] <rendo> kiroh: Have you installed the codecs?
[05:54] <planetcall> 6.06
[05:54] <mcpowley> does anyone have experience using thunderbird for gmail? I get a timeout whenever trying to connect to pop.gmail.com
[05:54] <cge> Aeo: I think the disk should be mountable. If it is, you can just add the menu.lst from /boot/grub/ on the hard drive onto the floppy.
[05:54] <nickrud> planetcall, install libxine-extracodecs
[05:55] <Aeo> cge: Do I also install GRUB on the floppy? In what directory should I put menu.lst?
[05:55] <acidjedi> !flash
[05:55] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:56] <DShepherd> kiroh: that link helps you?
[05:56] <nickrud> planetcall, you will need to enable the multiverse repo, if you haven't type !multiverse in this channel for instructions
[05:57] <cge> Aeo: if you search for the GRUB website, there are floppy disk images there. I think you should be able to mount the floppy disk after writing the image, and make a grub directory, and put menu.lst in it. But I'm not completely sure.
[05:57] <planetcall> nickrud,  thanks bro. it helped :)
[05:57] <nickrud> planetcall, all is good then :)
[05:58] <ardy> hello everybody
[05:58] <planetcall> nickrud, unfortunately I also have some wma/wmv  files. any extra codec/lib for that ?
[05:58] <ardy> !help How to download torrent file using wget command ?
[05:58] <DShepherd> nickrud: you using kde?
[05:58] <lwizardl> planetcall, win32 codec
[05:58] <garryfre> Well, I finally got dapper to boot from /dev/hdd1 and yet, the device.map file has drives pointing to seemingly correct drives but it doesn't seem to effect grub, hd1 is pointed to hd3 but I had to change the default root in menu.lst to hd3,1. Its as if it's ignored. Any ideas?
[05:58] <nickrud> planetcall, also install w32codecs. See !restricted for that
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> ardy,  you mean the file.torrent ? or the Data torrent it is to download?
[05:58] <nickrud> !restricted
[05:58] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. This page's intent is to enable you to play most non-free media formats that are not DRM encoded. Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats.
[05:58] <planetcall> i dont see it in synaptic
[05:59] <x0rion> hello
[05:59] <planetcall> k
[05:59] <nickrud> planetcall, it isn't, because ubuntu cannot distribute it
[05:59] <x0rion> is there any1 who coild help me get a duplex sound :(
[05:59] <DShepherd> nickrud, planetcall I found it in apt
[05:59] <planetcall> k
[05:59] <ardy> Dr_Willis, Data torrent to download
[06:00] <Paladine> k got it working :)
[06:00] <planetcall> DShepherd, whats it exact name ?
[06:00] <Aeo> cge and HedgeMage: Thank you for your time. I'll try it in the morning.
[06:00] <cge> Aeo: Good luck.
[06:00] <DShepherd> planetcall:  w32codecs
[06:00] <nickrud> DShepherd, well , you have non official sources :) I'm thinking about just putting plf into restricted formats, it seems pretty stable
[06:00] <Paladine> how on earth does one enable a second grfx card and second monitor?
[06:00] <rendo> planetcall You can look into easyubuntu or automatix to automatically install them for you.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> ardy,  you use a torrent client. not wget
[06:00] <HedgeMage> Aeo: np :)
[06:00] <garryfre> !twinview
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Paladine,  nvidia?
[06:00] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, garryfre
[06:00] <Aeo> cge and HedgeMage: If you'd like me to report with what I did (in case this interests you, perhaps), you can drop me an email address
[06:00] <Paladine> Dr, aye
[06:00] <DShepherd> nickrud: hmmm.. I think your right
[06:01] <Paladine> I have dual 6600GTs in this box
[06:01] <planetcall> DShepherd, I dont know why I dont see it in syn. I have almost all the repos activated :(
[06:01] <DShepherd> planetcall: check out restricted.. nickrud i think I downloaded the deb.. my bad
[06:01] <ardy> Dr_Willis, yes I want to download it without using GUI
[06:01] <DShepherd> planetcall: my bad.. i followed the wiki at restricted and downloaded the deb.. you can get it thru synpatic
[06:01] <DShepherd> planetcall: srry
[06:01] <garryfre> It has to do with setting up twinview. Not sure the best way to do that, but I would google for twinview and the version of ubuntu you are using.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> ardy,  there are console based torrent clients.   3 of them that i can think of off hand.
[06:02] <cge> ardy: What do you mean without a GUI. In a terminal, or without any GUI?
[06:02] <DShepherd> planetcall: that's a cant*
[06:02] <KanRiNiN> nickrud: I'm back :-)  I got gdm to work again
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> ardy,  the original bittorrent has a no gui feature
[06:02] <planetcall> k
[06:02] <x0rion> anybody?
[06:02] <bill> mainline has a console client
[06:02] <nickrud> KanRiNiN, good on you :)
[06:02] <rendo> planetcall: EasyUbuntu and Automatix can install all the restricted codecs.
[06:02] <KanRiNiN> question:  when I use bum to deactivate a service, why does it immediately reactivate?
[06:02] <KanRiNiN> like bluetooth and nvidia kernel stuff?
[06:02] <KanRiNiN> I don't need that loading
[06:02] <planetcall> rendo I tried EasyUbuntu and didnt find it good enough. I will try to do it myself :)
[06:02] <garryfre> I don't know about duplex sound. Sorry.
[06:02] <bill> anyone else having googleearth crash all the time under dapper?
[06:02] <nickrud> nice tools, as long as you use them very early in your install from what I"ve seen.
[06:03] <cge> ardy: There is btdownloadcurses if you want a curses based interface, or btdownloadheadless if you really don't want any ui.
[06:03] <x0rion> :(
[06:03] <ardy> cge, Yes I want to download it using terminal
[06:03] <rendo> planetcall: It worked for me. :)
[06:03] <planetcall> :)
[06:03] <cge> ardy: You probably want to use btdownloadcurses then.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> i perfer rtorrent for the console
[06:03] <planetcall> DShepherd, please go to http://www.ddindia.gov.in/  and see if you can see the streaming video in the left side. I can hear only sound but no video
[06:03] <nickrud> planetcall, but, there's a two line procedure on restricted formats that works every time, all the time
[06:04] <planetcall> its a microsoft format stream.
[06:04] <ardy> cge, ok I make a try on it, but how to use command to download data torrent??
[06:04] <planetcall> nickrud, any link ?
[06:04] <cge> ardy: If you want to use btdownloadcurses, just do btdownloadcurses PATH_OR_URL_TO_TORRENT.
[06:05] <Bot_Builde1> question, how do normal people deal with sudo, in UI form?
[06:05] <rendo> I yell at it.
[06:05] <rendo> :P
[06:05] <Bot_Builde1> I can use bash for lots of stuff
[06:05] <nickrud> planetcall, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-16ea04e7e1ecd06555912ba3f470b56563cbd85d
[06:05] <pppoe_dude> Bot_Builde1, sudo su
[06:05] <hastesaver> where is the sudo log kept?
[06:05] <Bot_Builde1> but I've really NEEDED it before for normal tasks
[06:05] <cge> pppoe_dude: !? Why?
[06:05] <planetcall> nickrud you too have a view on the link above i provided to DShepherd
[06:05] <garryfre> I note that googleearth has a version for unix, but it doesn't say linux. Perhaps there isnt' one for linux, but for some sort of unix system
[06:06] <ardy> cge, where i can download btdownloadcurses?
[06:06] <pppoe_dude> cge, 'cause
[06:06] <hastesaver> garryfre, it works (somewhat) on my Dapper
[06:06] <cge> ardy: It should be installed by default.
[06:06] <rendo> ardy sourceforge probably
[06:06] <cge> pppoe_dude: There should never be a need to use sudu su. Use sudo -s or sudo -i.
[06:06] <acidjedi> !flash
[06:06] <garryfre> hastesaver Yep.
[06:06] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:06] <DShepherd> planetcall: it doesnt seem to be playing thru firefox.. but if I click it a new window opens and the mozilla mplayer tries to do something.. doesnt seem to be successful though
[06:06] <nickrud> planetcall, I get absolutely nothing from that site myself
[06:07] <rendo> Me either
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> cge, isnt sudo -s == sudo su
[06:07] <ardy> cge, is gnome-btdownload is same as btdownloadcurses?
[06:07] <cge> ardy: No.
[06:07] <nickrud> I'm using the totem plugin
[06:07] <garryfre> there is gksudo
[06:07] <disinterested_pe> i finally got ymessenger installed and how disapointing
[06:07] <KanRiNiN> Question:  what is the enterprise volume manager, and do I need it at boot?
[06:07] <cge> pppoe_dude: I don't believe so. sudo su runs two programs, whereas sudo -s only runs one.
[06:07] <pppoe_dude> i c
[06:08] <dooglus> pppoe_dude: "sudo su" runs 'su' as root, whereas "sudo -s" runs a shell as root
[06:08] <Aeo> cge: During installation, I'm presented with an option to install GRUB onto a floppy, but this results in an error. Do you think this is resolvable or would it be best to try the method we discussed earlier?
[06:08] <asdx> can i install xgl/compiz on the live cd?
[06:08] <B0m3r-> assalamualaiku wr wb
[06:08] <planetcall> DShepherd, nickrud  you should be able to hear the audio as I do. I cant see the video (using VLC) . Though, I can see audio,video on Windows
[06:08] <hastesaver> And sudo -i is even better
[06:08] <mcpowley> does anyone have experience with thunderbird and gmail? I always get a timeout when trying to connect to pop.gmail.com
[06:08] <cge> Aeo: I didn't know that was offered, but if it doesn't work, you probably should do what we discussed.
[06:08] <DShepherd> planetcall: nope.. nothing at all
[06:08] <rendo> mcpowley Does it always time out?
[06:08] <cge> KanRiNiN: You most likely don't need it.
[06:08] <Aeo> cge: Alright, thank you.
[06:08] <ardy> cge rendo , ok thanks
[06:08] <hastesaver> mcpowley, have you set the proper port number and everything? (I mean, did you follow Google's instructions exactly?)
[06:08] <dooglus> mcpowley: you have to use ssl connection
[06:08] <pppoe_dude> cge, dooglus true, but they pretty much perform the same task imo ;)
[06:09] <nickrud> planetcall, nothing.
[06:09] <Bot_Builde1> Well, I probably just take shortcuts
[06:09] <planetcall> you peeps have VLC ?
[06:09] <Bot_Builde1> like moving templates to my template directory without figuring out how to in OO
[06:09] <rendo> I use mplayer.
[06:09] <garryfre> I know that floppies are often quite unreliable. at Grubfarm they mention that since floppy drives are now only a tenth as reliable as they used to be.
[06:09] <nickrud> nou, it's time to add that one to my useless web players :)
[06:09] <KanRiNiN> cge:  what about mdadm, if it's only for RAID then I can turn it off too, right?
[06:09] <dooglus> pppoe_dude: you can use "sudo sudo sudo sudo su" if you like.  that "performs the same task" as well.  but why run the extra processes?
[06:09] <planetcall> DShepherd, nickrud   it didnt work with totem earlier but with VLC I can listen the audio atleast.
[06:10] <nickrud> erm planetcall s/nou/no/ and continue
[06:10] <planetcall> still dont know what is required for the video
[06:10] <rendo> codecs
[06:10] <nickrud> which one, though
[06:10] <rendo> I don't know. :P
[06:10] <acidjedi> Gah, I can't get sound in flash videos!
[06:10] <nickrud> heh
[06:10] <mcpowley> dooglus: Thanks, that fixed it
[06:10] <planetcall> rendo have a look  direct link to the stream -> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/DDLive
[06:11] <SAM_theman> Ok hommies I am back I still have the problem I can't bloodly seem to have Deskjet 3643 working....
[06:11] <rendo> Server times out for me planetcall
[06:11] <cge> KanRiNiN: I believe so, yes.
[06:11] <SAM_theman> *3653
[06:11] <nickrud> I think it's time to dust off mozplugger and experiment. That's 5 bad streams now.
[06:11] <acidjedi> ubuntu found my printer in 2 seconds, and my windows boot still can't, lol
[06:11] <dooglus> mcpowley: the tricky bit is getting the smtp connection to work as well, and the trick there is to tell it to use ssl as well, despite what the gmail help pages say!
[06:12] <KickStand> can somebody tell me how to find wahtthe bus id is for my video card
[06:12] <benplaut> how do i find out what kernel module provides my eth0?
[06:12] <rendo> SMTP needs to be your ISP server setting.
[06:12] <dooglus> rendo: I'm talking about configuring thunderbird to use gmail.com for sending mail
[06:12] <grndslm> KickStand, lspci should work
[06:12] <rendo> Through the gmail servers you mean?
[06:12] <crimsun_> benplaut: grep eth0 /var/log/dmesg
[06:12] <KickStand> thanks
[06:13] <planetcall> yes it seems server is down at the moment.  rendo
[06:13] <nickrud> KickStand, lspci, the stuff after the leading 0000: and prior to the .0
[06:13] <KickStand> what exactly is lspci grndslam
[06:13] <KickStand> ah list pci got it
[06:13] <Paladine> hehe that twinview setup looks a bit of a headache
[06:13] <ardy> !help, I'm always away from my home pc, but is there any solution that I can use to download torrent files from internet via ssh?
[06:13] <benplaut> thanks
[06:13] <dooglus> rendo: yes...  that way you get a backup of everything you send on gmail.com - searchable quickly, too
[06:13] <grndslm> yup
[06:13] <Paladine> I will give it ago when I am not over tired
[06:13] <rendo> You don't _have_ to do it that way though, that's only if you want the backups.
[06:14] <garryfre> Yep, I have succeeded in doing it, but I suggest backing up the xorg.conf file first.
[06:14] <dooglus> ardy: look at running 'screen'.  that's the solution you're looking for.
[06:14] <grndslm> anybody gotten gmailfs to work?
[06:14] <nickrud> dooglus, you send thru gmail?
[06:14] <dooglus> nickrud: I do
[06:14] <planetcall> DShepherd, can you tell me how big is W32Codec download file ?
[06:14] <nickrud> dooglus, ah, I'll look into that, thanks
[06:15] <KickStand> can anybody maybe tell me why my resolution isn't any higher then, I've been through the guides and gotten no success
[06:15] <Snoops> ardy not sure about ssh.. but you can setup azureus with a web interface, as well as torrentflux which is a php based torrent client :)
[06:15] <Paladine> garry, yeah I found an article on overclockerz.nz and some morestuff on krazypenguin
[06:15] <rendo> KickStand: Video card or Monitor maximums?
[06:15] <the_Kane> hey
[06:15] <dooglus> nickrud: server smtp.gmail.com, user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(with the @g.c bit!), security: "use ssl"
[06:15] <KickStand> rendo: I need it up to about 1600x1200 and both card and monitor can handle it
[06:16] <rendo> KickStand: You sure your monitor can handle 1600x1200?
[06:16] <KickStand> yeahs it's a 20.1 inch wide screen
[06:16] <ardy> dooglus, running screen ?
[06:16] <nickrud> dooglus, thanks very much. I need a standalone server for mail real soon now
[06:16] <crafteh> how do i rerun the hardware auto-detection/configuration program that the installer uses?
[06:16] <the_Kane> QUESTION: i was just reading on how you can use a xbox 360 controller in dapper ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164040&highlight=xbox+controller ) but which controller is it? a normal xbox 360 controller... or the xbox 360 windows controller?
[06:16] <KickStand> rendo: yeah it's a 20.1 inch wide screen
[06:16] <planetcall> DShepherd, got it about 13.2 MB
[06:17] <DShepherd> planetcall: ok. kool
[06:17] <rendo> KickStand: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129379&postcount=21
[06:17] <grndslm> anybody gotten gmailfs to work??  seems like an awesome idea
[06:17] <KickStand> rendo : okay hold that though
[06:17] <dooglus> ardy: "screen" lets you connect to your PC from a remote location, run console programs, disconnect and leave them running, then connect again from a different location and re-connect, to see how they're going
[06:17] <ardy> Snoops, if I use web interface, then I can download files away from home to my home pc?
[06:17] <dooglus> ardy: that's exactly how I IRC.  I switched computers just now, but didn't leave this channel.
[06:18] <rendo> KickStand:  There's a few things there.
[06:18] <dooglus> ardy: 'cos I have irssi running inside screen
[06:18] <Bot_Builde1> bah, OO can't handle switching from english to german
[06:18] <crafteh> how do i rerun the hardware auto-detection/configuration program that the installer uses?
[06:18] <ardy> dooglus, hmm.. sound interesting
[06:18] <Bot_Builde1> I switch it to german, and it switches itself back to english.  Would be nice to have spellcheck for my german project
[06:19] <kholerabbi> I want to remove wine - how?
[06:19] <nickrud> crafteh, it should run every time you boot
[06:19] <KickStand> I just want to say that linux takes a hell  of a long time to get working the way you want it to
[06:19] <rendo> kholerabbi: sudo apt-get remove wine
[06:19] <dooglus> ardy: install package "screen" if you don't have it already.  then run "screen" - you'll get a shell prompt back after a page of help
[06:19] <ardy> dooglus, so what program do u use?
[06:19] <dooglus> ardy: for torrenting?
[06:19] <nickrud> KickStand, that is true: it's strength because you have control, it's weakness because it expects you to be in control
[06:19] <kholerabbi> I tried that - but the .wine folder is still there, shouldn't it be deleted too?
[06:19] <ardy> dooglus, for screen
[06:19] <dooglus> ardy: if I want to download torrents inside screen I'll use btdownloadcurses
[06:20] <dooglus> ardy: except I don't, mostly, so I use azureus with a big heavy java gui
[06:20] <KickStand> yeah I know I understand. Over the course of the years I've tried various distros on various hardware and it just would never work
[06:20] <ardy> dooglus, I cant find any btdownloadcurses
[06:20] <crafteh> nickrud, the mappings for the right half of my keyboard are incorrect. my xorg.conf is correct though (using us mapping... I replaced the xorg.conf with a backup). the mappings are only incorrect in X. i can't fix it for the life of me
[06:20] <rendo> kholerabbi: I'm not sure if that gets removed or not.  Maybe a package with wine is still on.  Ask someone with more knowledge about removing it.
[06:20] <KickStand> at least ubuntu will install, previously it wouldn't even get that far for one reason or another
[06:21] <spikebike> the name changes with different versions of bit-torrent
[06:21] <dooglus> ardy: in a terminal, type "btdownloadcurses".  what happens?
[06:21] <kholerabbi> Ok thanks anyhow :)
[06:21] <spikebike> just look for what files are included
[06:21] <spikebike> anyone trying to get googleearth working?
[06:21] <yoshiznit123> hey, does anyone know of a minimal utorrent-like application for ubuntu that allows multiple downloads in one window? the default ubuntu bittorrent client pisses me off :-)
[06:21] <disinterested_pe> ubuntu is so much better than windows
[06:21] <lwizardl> is there a guide for configuring a full complete server using ubuntu for the os
[06:22] <nickrud> crafteh, I am not an expert in X by any means, and the keyboard? pfft, I know less about keyboards than anything in X.
[06:22] <spikebike> yosh btdownloadmany-curses
[06:22] <ardy> dooglus, I get feedback.. which give me lot of arguments
[06:22] <Bot_Builde1> disinterested - unless you want to play cool games
[06:22] <Bot_Builde1> :P
[06:22] <dooglus> ardy: well done.  you found it :)
[06:22] <Geotsai> how is ubuntu better than windows?
[06:22] <yoshiznit123> spikebike, any gtk-based? :-)
[06:22] <spikebike> azureus ;-)
[06:22] <rendo> lwizardl: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[06:22] <ardy> dooglus, oohh ... just like that
[06:22] <disinterested_pe> well i dont use the pc to play games lol
[06:22] <yoshiznit123> any non-java-bloated ones? :-)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Geotsai,  this may be a better discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:22] <crafteh> nickrud, ok ;o
[06:22] <rendo> lwizardz: Has to do with running mainly as a server, DNS, mysql, etc etc
[06:22] <nickrud> crafteh, I suggest using System->Preferences->Keyboard, Tab Layout, and choose your keyboard model carefully
[06:22] <Bot_Builde1> Geotsai - Yeah, that's a giant topic
[06:23] <Geotsai> thanks
[06:23] <x0rion> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1131748 <:(
[06:23] <clusty> for some reason movies dont play fullscreen using gmplayer (in fullscreen more the image size remains contant). i dont have this problem with mplayer. any ide how to fix?
[06:23] <devians> we run breezy on a server here, and it would be rather bad for it to go down, is it worthwhile and safe to upgrade to dapper?
[06:23] <lwizardl> rendo, used that before and something was flawed last time i tried
[06:23] <dooglus> ardy: in the same terminal, type "btdownloadcurses http://snurl.com/dapper"
[06:23] <ardy> dooglus, then how to download torrent file?
[06:23] <dooglus> ardy: I answered just before you asked :)
[06:24] <rendo> lwizardl:  That's the only one I know of, sorry. :(
[06:24] <Bot_Builde1> hmm, can i set a folder in media (my USB drive) to be accessible by normal users
[06:24] <nickrud> perfec_setup, gotta read that one
[06:24] <yoshiznit123> xorion, you might need to set up something like ESD
[06:25] <x0rion> yoshiznit123: i tried all the thread about that duplex thing
[06:25] <x0rion> and i cant get it to work
[06:25] <x0rion> :|
[06:25] <ardy> dooglus, ok how if I close my terminal? is my downlod stop as well??
[06:25] <dooglus> ardy: if you didn't run screen first, yes
[06:25] <nickrud> ok, it uses su. Not perfect, just ideosyncratic
[06:25] <ardy> dooglus, how do I run screen? then
[06:25] <dooglus> ardy: but then, if you run the same command again, it will carry on where it left off
[06:26] <mcpowley> dooglus: I set up ssl for the smtp, and I sent a message, it said it was sent successfully(I sent it to my own email) but when I checked my mailbox, it was empty.
[06:26] <dooglus> ardy: screen btdownloadcurses http://snipurl.com/dapper
[06:26] <dooglus> ardy: um - not sure about that- just a mo.
[06:26] <rendo> mcpowley: Receive all
[06:26] <ardy> dooglus, hmm...
[06:26] <dooglus> ardy: I'll stop trying to be clever.
[06:26] <dooglus> ardy: just run "screen"
[06:26] <dooglus> ie. that's the command
[06:26] <dooglus> what happens?
[06:27] <rendo> Oh noz.
[06:27] <KickStand> yeah none of those webpages helped me for my video resolution
[06:27] <mcpowley> dooglus: I clicked get mail and nothing was there. What do you mean by receive all?
[06:27] <rendo> KickStand:  Did you try editing the xorg file like it suggested for manual resolution?
[06:27] <ardy> dooglus, it says click space to continue, after I clicked then noting happen?
[06:27] <dooglus> mcpowley: I didn't say "receive all"
[06:27] <KickStand> my resolution is screwed
[06:27] <dooglus> ardy: you get back to a shell, but now you're inside screen
[06:28] <KickStand> rendo: yeah but everything seems to check out in the xorg file
[06:28] <dooglus> ardy: hit control-a twice to tell if you're in screen or not
[06:28] <nickrud> KickStand, if you'd post /etc/X11/xorg.conf , /var/log/Xorg.0.log , lspci -v and sudo ddcprobe to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ I'll take a look
[06:28] <dooglus> ardy: if you are, you'll see a message about windows
[06:28] <dooglus> ardy: if not, nothing will happen
[06:28] <KickStand> nickrud: just post it to the channel here?
[06:28] <rendo> !pastebin
[06:28] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[06:28] <nickrud> KickStand, no, on  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:28] <KickStand> nickrud: okay got ya
[06:29] <KickStand> nickrud: yeah my bad
[06:29] <dooglus> mcpowley: did you set gmail up to work with POP?  it's in "settings"
[06:29] <nickrud> rendo, I do what I can do :)
[06:29] <dooglus> mcpowley: oh, if you mail to yourself, it won't come back.  gmail is clever enough to realise that you already have the message, since you sent it.
[06:29] <rendo> If I looked at it, I'd be like... Uh ya it's fine *shifty eyes*
[06:29] <devians> no answer to my question?
[06:29] <ardy> dooglus, yes I saw it
[06:30] <dooglus> ardy: so now run that btdownloadcurses command, inside screen
[06:30] <FunnyLookinHat> When I setup Samba sharing of two folders on one computer and i try to view them from windows I get prompted for a user/pass, and none seem to work...  ideas?
[06:30] <ardy> dooglus, ooo that is the rule.... I see
[06:30] <nickrud> KickStand, and if you'd be so kind as to put the log file in a separate pastebin, it's large :)
[06:30] <dooglus> ardy: the rule?
[06:31] <devians> FunnyLookinHat, you have to add the passwords to samba
[06:31] <FunnyLookinHat> devians,  but what if I want no passwords?  I just want it to be open access like windows allows...
[06:31] <ardy> dooglus, hehe
[06:31] <tripppy> whats the best file system to use with dapper? it will mainly be for downloads and 1+gig files.
[06:31] <devians> that would be a share setting
[06:31] <devians> allow guest
[06:31] <dooglus> ardy: now type control-a control-d
[06:31] <DavidJaq> I need to get rid of grub and replace it with my window's boot loader, but I can't boot from CD. I do have a floppy, however. Does anyone know how to do this using a floppy?
[06:31] <dooglus> ardy: that will "detach" the screen
[06:32] <rendo> FuunyLookinHat:  I want my wife to cook steak all the time and that never happens, maybe you'll have to learn to love passwords :P
[06:32] <devians> trippy, ext3 would be fine
[06:32] <dooglus> ardy: the download will continue to run
[06:32] <ardy> dooglus, ooo
[06:32] <dooglus> ardy: then open a new terminal window (from a hotel on the other side of the world, via ssh, if you like)
[06:32] <dooglus> ardy: and run "screen -r" <-- that means "re-attach".  you'll see your download, still running
[06:33] <PyroticShadow> Can anybody help me install Macromedia MX on Ubuntu Breezy Badger, using Wine?
[06:33] <devians> mmm much love for screen
[06:33] <ardy> dooglus, this is good man... I learned new things today
[06:33] <phoghawk> Hey, I just got a new HDD and made two partitions. It defaulted to belonging to root, and I can't change the permissions. Chmod appears to work, but it doesn't do anything. any ideas?
[06:33] <devians> ardy, screen is the single most usefull terminal prog
[06:33] <rendo> dooglus:  Are you talking about a way to see what another machine is doing?  Like a graphical look?
[06:33] <devians> learn to love it :D
[06:33] <nickrud> screen is evil, it takes people away from the desktop
[06:33] <phoghawk> PyroMithrandir, I think you can do that using Crossover office
[06:33] <dooglus> rendo: no, it's only for console programs
[06:33] <devians> haha nickrud. what if the boxen has no gui?
[06:33] <rendo> dooglus What exactly does it do?
[06:34] <nickrud> devians, then install it :)
[06:34] <dooglus> ardy: the other thing screen can do is run multiple programs at once.  type "control-a control-c" to create a new shell.  then "control-a control-a" will toggle between them.
[06:34] <devians> why bother when its only ever accessed via ssh
[06:34] <nickrud> devians, hyperbole is my middle name
[06:34] <rendo> Here's a question.
[06:35] <dooglus> rendo: it allows you to leave console programs running even after you close your terminal window
[06:35] <rendo> Did most of you learn crazy fancy things by hanging around channels like this?
[06:35] <devians> nickrud hyperbole _________________
[06:35] <devians> :P
[06:35] <dooglus> rendo: so if you travel a lot, you can occasionally check-in with your console programs running at home
[06:35] <rendo> dooglus: Ah.  So a startup script for a mud... :P  I see, fancy.
[06:35] <spikeb> rendo: i learned by breaking my system repeatedly and trying to fix it
[06:35] <phlexonance> good morning, can anyone here help me very fast to install ne latest opera?
[06:35] <rendo> Lol spikeb :P
[06:35] <devians> rendo, i learn most things by having a need and going a-googling and annoying my linux guru friends
[06:35] <nickrud> devians, it's nick hyperbole rude to be exact :)
[06:35] <KickStand> nickrud: how do i send this to you
[06:35] <devians> heh
[06:35] <grndslm> anybody here used gmailfs??
[06:36] <dooglus> rendo: I run this IRC session inside screen on a remote machine.  so I can turn my laptop off and stay here :)
[06:36] <spikebike> rendo works fine on redhat 8-(
[06:36] <nickrud> KickStand, if you put it on the pastebin, just give me the links
[06:36] <ardy> dooglus, so if i use btdownloadcurses to download 1 program then to download another program I can simply use this multiple screening program. right!
[06:36] <dooglus> yes
[06:37] <phoghawk>  Hey, I just got a new HDD and made two partitions. It defaulted to belonging to root, and I can't change the permissions. Chmod appears to work, but it doesn't do anything. any ideas?
[06:37] <KickStand> nickrud: okay here is the stuff minus the log file
[06:37] <KickStand> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15630
[06:37] <PyroticShadow> Can anybody help me install Macromedia MX, through Wine?..
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> phoghawk,  these are ext3 partitions?
[06:37] <phoghawk> dooglus, you were helping me with my HDD earlier, I tried adding things to the fstab, but nothing worked
[06:37] <phoghawk> Dr_Willis, they're fat32
[06:37] <phoghawk> Dr_Willis, they're identified as vfat in other places
[06:37] <dooglus> phoghawk: 5 mins...
[06:37] <phoghawk> dooglus, thanks ;)
[06:37] <phlexonance> I need a ftp client capable of scp, urgently
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> phoghawk,  eww. :P lol.. got to set up the fstab correctly then.
[06:37] <phoghawk> phlexonance, is gftp not?
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> phlexonance, gftp?
[06:38] <phlexonance> phoghawk, nope
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> phlexonance, sudo apt-get scp ?
[06:38] <DavidJaq> I want to uninstall Ubuntu and Grub so I can go back to just booting Windows XP, but I can't boot directly from CD... but I do have a floppy disk. Anyone know how I can use my floppy disk to boot from the Windows XP setup disc?
[06:38] <dooglus> phoghawk: use 'defaults' in the options
[06:38] <phoghawk> phlexonance, just search synaptic for FTP and try them all
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> lawl
[06:38] <phoghawk> dooglus, um, okay. Do I need to reboot after that?
[06:38] <phlexonance> FunnyLookinHat, I need a real browser so I can search through the ftp
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> oh.
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> good luck.  :-/
[06:38] <KickStand> nickrud: and here is the logfile http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15631
[06:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Unsure of any options
[06:38] <dooglus> phoghawk: umount and mount is enough
[06:38] <PyroticShadow> DavidJaq, could just go into your BIOS, and select it to swap the CD to read first, before the Floppy, and it'll read the disk so you can format it.
[06:38] <nickrud> KickStand, eh. You didn't get any data about your monitor from ddcprobe. You're going to have to look up the exact specs for your monitor somewhere, hopefully from the manual that came with it.
[06:39] <KanRiNiN> OK I'm back.. Boots faster now.  Thanks guys.
[06:39] <klees> how can i make my mouse scroller switch workspaces???
[06:39] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay
[06:39] <KickStand> nickrud: i know the specs, I looked them up and put them into the xconf file
[06:39] <DavidJaq> PyroticShadow, My computer is working perfectly fine right now so I can do whatever to the floppy I want to do... but I completely lack the ability to boot from CD. Changing bios doesn't do anything for me.
[06:40] <rigonatti> does anyone now if I need to install something to run LimeWire ??
[06:40] <rendo> Java
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> rigonatti,  the official sun java
[06:40] <klees> anyone???
[06:40] <rendo> I'm looking klees.
[06:40] <m0zone> sup
[06:40] <grndslm> anybody know the difference between frostwire and limewire?
[06:40] <klees> (obviously in gnome)
[06:41] <FunnyLookinHat> Is there any way to allow VNC connections at the GDM login screen???
[06:41] <rigonatti> Dr_willis: how can i get that ?
[06:41] <nickrud> KickStand, a Dell 2005FPW  ?
[06:41] <PyroticShadow> DavidJaq, hmm..any particular reason why you are disowning Ubuntu?.. (curiosity), and also.. your bios should load the CD first if you select it, and then you can boot from the CD...and if that doesn't do anything, I'm nto smart enough to help ye' in another fashion without screwing something up, sorry.
[06:41] <m0zone> ones free and one u pay for it  also i think limewire trys and sell u crap    dont know just what i heard
[06:41] <ardy> dooglus, this is awesome... so I can now multiple download using screen and btdownloadcurse without stop whenever i close my terminal.. hehehe... thanks lot man.
[06:41] <duck> hey does anyone know how I can add the thingy to the panel that shows what programs i have running?????
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !java
[06:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[06:41] <rendo> klees: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79560.html
[06:41] <Fash> hey all, i followed this How-to to get my ati card to work, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but when i try fglrxinfo it turns up with the same old Mesa =/
[06:41] <KickStand> nickrud: yeah that's the one
[06:41] <Fash> am i missing nay steps?
[06:41] <Snowfairy_> I just formatted a 40gb drive as ext3, and it says something like 700mb is in use already?  Can anyone explain why this is?
[06:41] <nickrud> KickStand, an lcd, ok
[06:42] <rendo> Snowfairy_ Swap probably.
[06:42] <KickStand> nickrud: yes that is correct
[06:42] <klees> rendo, thx for the link i'll go read
[06:42] <phoghawk> dooglus, I still got nothin. I don't have permissions to write, and chmod does nothing
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fairy,  5% reserved for root/system ussage perhaps
[06:42] <fairy> rendo, I didn't tell it to use swap.
[06:42] <FunnyLookinHat> !mount
[06:42] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:42] <fairy> Dr_Willis, even though it's an 'extra' drive?
[06:42] <DavidJaq> PyroticShadow I have really limited space and I need it right now so I want to go back to Windows XP since it has a program I use all the time (zMUD) that has no linux equivelant, can't be ran with wine, and my computer is too slow for vmware... and I mentioned this twice now... my computer simply can't boot from cd. It's too old and the bios is borked and there's no update for the bios
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> fairy,  its reserved on all drives.
[06:43] <fairy> DarkMageZ, try tintin :)
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> fairy,  if thats what is taking up the space..
[06:43] <fairy> Dr_Willis, that could be it then, thanks :)
[06:43] <fairy> As long as it's normal.  I don't mind.
[06:43] <fairy> Just didn't understand the 'why'
[06:43] <fairy> dur...
[06:43] <fairy> not darkmagez
[06:43] <nickrud> KickStand, I've helped three people with lcds, twice with success, once without. The one without had edidfail in the ddcprobe, which you have also.
[06:43] <fairy> DavidJaq, tintin is roughly equivalent to zmud.
[06:43] <grndslm> DavidJaq, if you have a spare computer...you could use the free VMware Server and VMware Player
[06:43] <DarkMageZ> fairy, was wondering why u said that to me :P
[06:43] <PyroticShadow> DavidJaq, Hmm...  Can anyone help me out?
[06:44] <rendo> DavidJaq MudMagic CLient works well.
[06:44] <fairy> DavidJaq, I do think there's a decent gnome mud client as well.  I just can't think of what it was.
[06:44] <rendo> davidjaq: Has an ubuntu installer too.
[06:44] <DavidJaq> rendo, it doesn't have the mapper I want
[06:44] <phlexonance> good morning, can anyone here help me very fast to install ne latest opera?
[06:44] <rendo> DavidJaq: Meh.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> FriendlySoviet,  make a dir on the partition owned by the users.. so they can write to it. is what i did.
[06:44] <fairy> DavidJaq, Graph paper works :) (sorry, I know it's not helpful, I just despised Zmud's mapper, never worked for me ;) )
[06:44] <FriendlySoviet> Thanks Dr.Willlis
[06:44] <nickrud> KickStand, according to your Xorg.0.log, the max res that X sees is NVIDIA(0):     "1024x768" , but this is a 20 inch monitor, right?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> FriendlySoviet,   safer that way as well.
[06:45] <rendo> DavidJaq: Or you can install wine and try and emulate some windows clients.
[06:45] <fairy> DarkMageZ, nick completion went wonky on me :) and I wasn't paying attention, sorry. :)
[06:45] <KickStand> nickrud: yes 20.1 inch widesceen
[06:45] <PyroticShadow> So nobody can help me install macromedia mx, with wine?
[06:45] <rendo> DavidJaq: Mushclient works under wine.
[06:45] <DavidJaq> I love zmud's mapper. Works great for me. I can walk from one end of Discworld MUD to the other end, more than 50,000 rooms I walk through, automatically just by telling the map my starting location and ending location
[06:45] <kvasov> how come /proc/cpuinfo is showing a totally diferent speed than what my processor should be
[06:46] <dooglus> phoghawk: OK - I got my arms back...  I can help you now.  Still there?
[06:46] <nickrud> KickStand, if edid did not fail, I'd have a possible solution, but without that, I'm not sure.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> kvasov,  and your processor is a ??.....
[06:46] <phoghawk> dooglus, yessir
[06:46] <kvasov> amd 64 3500+
[06:46] <DavidJaq> in any case, I don't want to stay with ubuntu right now. I just want it uninstalled and grub to be gone. I have no spare computers to use, my computer is unable to boot directly from CD because my bios is borked and there's no upgrades... all I have as an option is a floppy disk
[06:46] <dooglus> phoghawk: remind me of the ext3 line from fstab
[06:46] <KickStand> nickrud: crap...what the hell is edid anyway
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> kvasov,  and what # is it showing? and what are you expecting?
[06:46] <kvasov> it showed that i's 1000 Ghz and 3023 bogomips
[06:46] <crimsun_> phlexonance: wget "http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=28025,&location=131&nothanks=yes&sub=marine" http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/xlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i xlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb opera_9.0-20060518.5-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[06:46] <dooglus> phoghawk: the one that's not working
[06:46] <kvasov> and it should be 2010 Mhz
[06:46] <crimsun_> mmkay.
[06:47] <kvasov> i mean 1000 Mhz before
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> kvasov,  it could be throttling down
[06:47] <nickrud> KickStand, it's the report of the monitor of what it does
[06:47] <kvasov> why is it doing that
[06:47] <fairy> DavidJaq, with windows XP you can reformat and reinstall. then boot to repair mode off your winxp cd and do fixmbr
[06:47] <fairy> that should remove grub and ubuntu.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> kvasov,  its designed that way. :P slows down when not needed.
[06:47] <human> fairy, he can't boot from cd
[06:47] <phoghawk> dooglus, they're fat32 filesystems, I don't think I have any ext3s that aren't working
[06:47] <fairy> oooh
[06:47] <fairy> I missed that part.
[06:47] <dooglus> phoghawk: oh, I see.  both of them?
[06:47] <nickrud> KickStand, more correctly, the response from the monitor when queried about it's capabilites
[06:47] <FunnyLookinHat> !harddrive
[06:47] <phoghawk> dooglus, yep
[06:47] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[06:47] <DavidJaq> if I could put something on the floppy that would let me boot the cd, that'd work
[06:47] <petrik> Hi all. Is it possible to have an audio conversation with someone on windows MSN? Which program would I need?
[06:47] <phoghawk> dooglus, I can pastebin my fstab
[06:48] <rendo> petrik Gaim?
[06:48] <kvasov> what the heck. do amd64 throttle themselves?
[06:48] <fairy> DavidJaq, 'google boot floppy'
[06:48] <rendo> Does Gaim support audio?
[06:48] <dooglus> phoghawk: in that case, use "umask=0,user,auto" in the fstab for the options
[06:48] <fairy> If I remember right, you should even be able to find all flavors of windows boot floppies.
[06:48] <KickStand> nickrud: So does that mean that there is nothing I can do short of some kind of a patch or something?
[06:48] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay
[06:48] <kvasov> i do watch cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:48] <bkvjegy> Hello KickStand!
[06:48] <kvasov> it's at 1 GHz
[06:48] <bkvjegy> Hello kvasov!
[06:48] <bkvjegy> Hello rendo!
[06:48] <FriendlySoviet> Dr_Willis : Thank you very much. Works like a charm :)
[06:48] <rendo> petrik I think there's a program called aMSN.
[06:48] <bkvjegy> Hello phoghawk!
[06:48] <kvasov> start moving windows around and it becomes 2.2 Ghz
[06:48] <rendo> Uh Hello.
[06:48] <phoghawk> Hi bkvjegy, lol
[06:48] <bkvjegy> lol?
[06:49] <nickrud> KickStand, no, there's a thing called modelines you can add to the xorg.conf for controlling idiotic monitors. I'll look around for a bit.
[06:49] <bkvjegy> phoghawk, :-(
[06:49] <petrik> rendo, Both Gaim and aMSN don't seem to do audio
[06:49] <rendo> petrik Skype!
[06:49] <bkvjegy> Hello bkvjegy!
[06:49] <bkvjegy> Hello petrik!
[06:49] <DavidJaq> fairy, I've already done that. The floppy options for windows XP I find are one that bypasses the mbr entirely to boot windows xp and one that requires six floppies, but I only have three
[06:49] <rendo> petrik And use whatever messenging client for the IM part :P
[06:49] <bkvjegy> Hello Jaak_!
[06:50] <Fash> anyone particularly familiar with that nightmare we call fglrx?
[06:50] <phoghawk> bkvjegy, do I know you?
[06:50] <rendo> Speaking of Dell.
[06:50] <fairy> DavidJaq, I'd suggest a run to wal-mart ;) buy some new floppies ;)
[06:50] <klees> is there a ubuntu guide on installing/enabling fglrx??  (my card is Radeon 9800 Pro)
[06:50] <petrik> rendo, Skype doesn't work
[06:50] <rendo> I had an appointment today with social services and I had to outline my plan after college.
[06:50] <rendo> They wanted all this crappy details about it.
[06:50] <Fash> i tried following this guide, still mesa =/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-26e8b0d4be861a6b7c545dc21c45232f909d8ca2
[06:50] <phoghawk> dooglus, that appears to have worked. Thank you soooo much.    Blah blah blah.
[06:50] <Jaak_> how do i create an partition from "free space not available" that can be used by ubuntu and windows
[06:51] <mystamax> hello, Everytime I go to Applications -> Add/Remove The program starts, begins to look for installed applications, but never shows up??? I'm not really sure why..... Any help
[06:51] <Fash> !ati
[06:51] <ubotu> I guess ati is http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[06:51] <rigonatti> Does anyone know why LimeWire dont Run..even after install Official JAva from Sun?
[06:51] <neophiter> If I wanted to add the regular Ubuntu Desktop to the Server edition, what all would I need to do?
[06:51] <DavidJaq> "After college I intend to become ritch and I'm going to buy you as my slave. Lick my boots now as practice and I shall pay you well later."
[06:51] <rendo> rigonatti Did you install it through synaptic or apt?
[06:51] <dooglus> phoghawk: you're welcome.  it's the "umask=0" that did it.  the "auto" means "mount at boot" and the "user" means "let users mount it without sudo'ing"
[06:51] <bkvjegy> Hello ubotu!ubotu
[06:51] <bjones> how do I configure dapper drake to use my wide aspect LCD monitor?
[06:51] <mystamax> rigonatti: try running limewire from the command line and see what it says
[06:51] <phoghawk> dooglus, what does the umask mean?
[06:51] <nickrud> KickStand, here's a sample xorg.conf, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-January/012156.html . let me know when you're looking
[06:51] <bkvjegy> Hogy vagy kedves [zero] , mi szel hozott?
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> !love
[06:51] <rigonatti> Java from Apt.... LimeWire from a rpm pack with alien
[06:51] <ubotu> Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice weasels come.
[06:51] <bkvjegy> Hogy vagy kedves bkvjegy, mi szel hozott?
[06:51] <pppoe_dude> oops
[06:52] <KickStand> nickrud: Yeah I'm looking
[06:52] <dooglus> phoghawk: it means to make the mounted stuff have '777' permission if available...
[06:52] <RancidLM> bjones: it should auto detect a wide screen when you first install, did u just replace a regular monitor with ur widescreen one?
[06:52] <rigonatti> "You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x"
[06:52] <dooglus> phoghawk: kind-of.  "man umask" will help.
[06:52] <phoghawk> dooglus, lol, I'll check that out. Thanks a bunch
[06:53] <dooglus> phoghawk: I use "noauto,user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850" for my vfat mounts.  I don't know why - it's been like that for years.
[06:53] <bjones> ?
[06:53] <phoghawk> now that my HDD problems are solved, I can move onto more important things. I think an ant just bit my testicles
[06:53] <dooglus> phoghawk: maybe you want to set a charset or codepage though?  I don't know...
[06:53] <rigonatti> mystamax: "You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x"
[06:53] <spikeb> hahahahahah
[06:53] <nickrud> KickStand, see the modeline under Section "Modes" that is uncommented? (no # preceeding)
[06:53] <phoghawk> dooglus, I don't know what either of those are
[06:53] <dooglus> phoghawk: the "uid-1000" bit makes the files look like they're owned by me, rather than by root
[06:53] <dooglus> uid=1000, that is.
[06:53] <phoghawk> dooglus, cool, I want that. I'll add it
[06:53] <KickStand> nickrud: yes I do
[06:54] <dooglus> phoghawk: type "id" in a terminal to find out what your userid is
[06:54] <rendo> Where do I set HD space for users?
[06:54] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay
[06:54] <dooglus> phoghawk: it's 1000 for the first user created, 1001 for the 2nd, etc.
[06:54] <bjones> RancidLM: I installed with the wide aspect monitor connected.  It did not autodetect.
[06:54] <phoghawk> dooglus, mine is 1000 too
[06:54] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay
[06:54] <rigonatti> mystamax:    "You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x"
[06:54] <dooglus> mine is 501, 'cos I migrated from mandrake linux and didn't want to change all my files to be uid 1000
[06:55] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay, what are the charset and codepage things?
[06:55] <dooglus> phoghawk: it's to do with "funny foreign letters"
[06:55] <nickrud> KickStand, gotta step out for less than 5 minutes. brb
[06:55] <RancidLM> bjones: wierd i have a laptop and ubuntu 5.10 and 6.06 both auto detected a wide screen.. have u looked int your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for your resolution settings?
[06:55] <phoghawk> dooglus, is it a big deal if I don't use those frequently?
[06:55] <HedgeMage> RancidLM: long time no see :D
[06:55] <dooglus> phoghawk: no
[06:55] <KickStand> nickrud: okay
[06:56] <RancidLM> HedgeMage: OMG! HedgeMage !!!!
[06:56] <rendo> Where do I go to set HD space for users?
[06:56] <dooglus> phoghawk: it's only to do with 'funny foreign letters' in filenames, anyway.  file content will be fine either way.
[06:56] <UNH2LY> hey, what should i use to burn an iso
[06:56] <dooglus> phoghawk: you might just see filenames not showing up quite right if they've got french accents or whatever.
[06:56] <phoghawk> dooglus, neat, what about the codepage? also, is there any negatives to adding that charset. I suppose I could do it just for safety
[06:57] <klees> how can i find out what my video card's bus identifier is?????
[06:57] <dooglus> phoghawk: I don't know anything about it really, but I think they're both the same kind of thing.
[06:57] <dooglus> phoghawk: codepages were an early, primitive attempt to solve the problem that charsets solve properly.  or something.
[06:57] <Jaak_> Anyone know about Ati and Opengl problems, as in crashes...?
[06:58] <phoghawk> dooglus, I'll just add the codepage and charset options, just in case
[06:58] <stevekl> Can someone link me to that sources.list builder for dapper?
[06:58] <Klowner> ehm, anyone seen this before?
[06:58] <rendo> Where do I go to set HD space for users?
[06:58] <dooglus> rendo: do you mean like giving each user a disk space quota?
[06:58] <rendo> Yes.
[06:58] <Klowner> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jun 24 23:49:26 2006
[06:58] <rendo> I have quota installed, I need to know how to GIVE them a quota :P
[06:59] <bjones> RancidLM: It detected as a "Generic Monitor".  All I get is 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480
[06:59] <UNH2LY> Does anyone know of a simple program to burn isos with in dapper?
[06:59] <spikebike> cdrecord
[06:59] <klees> enable framebuffer device interface???
[06:59] <RancidLM> bjones: and thats probly gonna have to change.. id try chaning the resolution to something that the monitor is capable of
[07:00] <LiteHedded> ati install didn't work
[07:00] <LiteHedded> can someone help?
[07:00] <hastesaver> mystamax, use Synaptic then :)
[07:00] <dooglus> rendo: I saw a web page about it once.  "quotatool" is a tool for editing quotas though.
[07:00] <UNH2LY> klees, something gui?
[07:00] <Jaak_> How do i create an partition from "free space not available" that can be used by ubuntu and windows?
[07:01] <the_Kane> URGENT QUESTION: i want to download the dapper iso, but which do you recommend (i've heard bad things about the desktop cd) the Desktop, or Alternate ?
[07:01] <nickrud> KickStand, ok, That's what this guy is running, and he has a trivial complaint :) Cut and paste his Section "Modes" into your xorg.conf, and see where under Section "Screen" he has a Modes "1680x1050" line? Duplicate that in your xorg.conf also.
[07:01] <the_Kane> ...im on 128mb ram
[07:01] <robert_> okay- what the hell, I'm trying to install ubuntu to /dev/hdb, and all I keep getting are I/O errors
[07:01] <eob84> Hi... I am having trouble getting my desktop to display at anything besides 800x600... I didn't have this problem until I installed the nvidia-glx driver... any suggestions?
[07:01] <Dial_tone> 128?
[07:01] <the_Kane> yep 128
[07:01] <KickStand> nickrud: yeah, will i have to restart x afterward?
[07:01] <nekostar> eh
[07:01] <nekostar> how do i run a binary file?
[07:01] <Dial_tone> I have that in my nfs box and it doesn't even have x installed
[07:01] <dooglus> rendo: there's this: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Quota.html
[07:01] <nekostar> i downloaded that google earth for linux thing but i dont get it :/
[07:01] <nickrud> KickStand, yes, log out of the desktop and then hit clt-alt-backspace
[07:01] <dooglus> nekostar: 1. "chmod +x file.bin"; 2. "./file.bin"
[07:02] <KickStand> it kills all programs correct?
[07:02] <nickrud> KickStand, if you log out correctly, no.
[07:02] <nekostar> oo thanx dooglus
[07:02] <nekostar> forgot the +x then :)
[07:02] <eob84> also... it seems I can only set my refesh rate to 60hz
[07:03] <nickrud> the_Kane, alternate
[07:03] <cparker> hi, anyone else having problems with amaroK under dapper? whenever I try to play an MP3 file from a Samba share, the whole thing freezes.
[07:03] <the_Kane> nickrud: thanks
[07:03] <cparker> I used to use amaroK to do this with Fedora Core without a problem... but I believe I also used the GStreamer engine, which doesn't seem like it's available for Ubuntu Dapper.
[07:05] <eyequeue> i thought gstreamer 0.10 was in dapper
[07:05] <cparker> So, because amaroK is freezing, I go to use Rhythmbox, and that freezes at the first welcome screen... :(
[07:05] <eyequeue> 0.8 was in breezy
[07:06] <Meek-> anyone help? I'm trying to get compiz working... when I enable the composite extension in my xorg.conf, the next time I try to load an x session, it 'freaks out' and drops back to the login manager screen.  It works fine if I take out the composite extension (but I can't load compiz).  Im running nvidia 8762 drivers...
[07:06] <hastesaver> cparker, gstreamer *is* available under Dapper (but it's not good, IMHO)
[07:06] <eyequeue> i'm no sound guru, don't know if that makes a difference
[07:06] <KickStand> nickrud: Okay not only must I have logged out wrong but it didn't fix my resolution either
[07:06] <nickrud> XGL is evil, pre beta software
[07:06] <Meek-> i know, im just messing around with it
[07:06] <cparker> hastesaver: I'm not seeing an amarok-gstreamer package...
[07:07] <Meek-> just wondering if anyone had run into that issues
[07:07] <Meek-> -s
[07:07] <LiteHedded> ati help anyone?
[07:07] <hastesaver> cparker, have you enabled mp3, BTW? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[07:07] <nickrud> KickStand, it's really hard to fix hardware over the net, especially with hardware that does not report itself properly
[07:07] <KickStand> nickrud: Yeah I understand. What a pain in the ass.
[07:07] <Kiko0123> who's the artist of that club song named check around? i can'T find it out...
[07:08] <concept10> im having a problem where samba doesnt fully install, how do I fix this with apt-get, i forgot the command
[07:08] <nickrud> KickStand, You need to find a ModeLine that works.
[07:08] <KickStand> nickrud: I'll try. Isn't it odd that that guys didn't work though?
[07:08] <KickStand> nickrud: He had the same monitor I do
[07:08] <eyequeue> sudo apt-get --reinstall install samba ?
[07:09] <nickrud> KickStand, I had high hopes for that one, especially since it was on a mail list from freedesktop
[07:09] <eob84> anyone have a working nvidia-glx?
[07:09] <nickrud> KickStand, and no one called him on his config there
[07:09] <cparker> hastesaver: thanks for that link... do you know why there isn't an amarok-gstreamer package in dapper?
[07:09] <robert_> blah- why won't it perform I/O to the drive?
[07:09] <robert_> -to+on
[07:10] <_nano_> what run level does ubuntu run on?
[07:10] <Meek-> eob, i am.. just a little bit.. I just found this: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-s.html
[07:10] <Meek-> "The NVIDIA driver does not yet support the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension. This extension is used by OpenGL-based composite managers, such as Novell's Compiz, to use X pixmaps as OpenGL textures. Support for the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension will be provided in a future NVIDIA driver release"
[07:10] <hastesaver> cparker, I don't know, really. But once you've got mp3 (and all the others) enabled, I think amarok might work fine.
[07:10] <nickrud> KickStand, you could try commenting and uncommenting his other modelines (it's what I'd do) but I offer no promises
[07:11] <cparker> hastesaver, thanks again. :)
[07:11] <hastesaver> cparker, the package amarok-engines installs all of them (according to the apt-cache show page)
[07:11] <eyequeue> nano, 2 3 4 5 are the same, 2 is default
[07:11] <KickStand> nick rud, that is what I plan on, how can i restart x without rebooting ubuntu again?
[07:11] <Meek-> im pretty sure thats saying that current nvidia drivers dont support composite
[07:11] <_nano_> eyequeue: i want to disable mysql and apache to startup...so which rc*.x folder should i look into?
[07:11] <nickrud> KickStand, you must restart X every time.
[07:12] <nickrud> KickStand, just don't open anything that matters while you're troubleshooting
[07:12] <fairy> There is no more amarok-gstreamer
[07:12] <eyequeue> nano, man update-rc.d, for the Ubuntu Way
[07:12] <cparker> hastesaver: perhaps that package--amarok-engines--is in a non-standard repository?
[07:12] <KickStand> nickrud, got ya thanks for your help
[07:12] <_nano_> eyequeue: k, thanks
[07:12] <fairy> to get xine working, you must install libxine-extracodecs.
[07:12] <fairy> (Hope I actually understood what was going on with the previous amarok question)
[07:12] <nickrud> KickStand, luck to you. So, I'm 3 of 5 on lcds so far ;(
[07:12] <cparker> hastesaver: right now, I just have the default repositories that came with dapper.
[07:12] <hastesaver> cparker, perhaps. But amarok-xine and (if you're using KDE already) amarok-arts should be better, right?
[07:14] <fairramone> Hello!
[07:14] <cparker> hastesaver: I'm using Gnome. I'll see how amarok-xine works once I have the mp3 "issue" sorted out... it's just that on other distros, I've had the best luck with amaroK's GStreamer engine.. i'll see how it goes, though. thank you.
[07:14] <fairy> cparker, amarok gstreamer is no longer supported by the amarok team (hence there won't be one) as far as what I understand from my own reading.
[07:15] <nickrud> as best I read it, it's either amarok-xine or armarok-arts
[07:15] <fairy> I had a lot of trouble when I installed amarok, cause I couldn't find the gstreamer plugin myself.   It took reading restricted formats again to figure out why xine wasn't playing MP3s.  (you need to install amarok-xine and then libxine-extracodecs
[07:15] <acke_> hey guys, what player would you put forward as a good allround player for dvd, avi and so on. vlc? xine?
[07:15] <fairy> I like xine better then arts myself :)
[07:16] <eob84> Meek: Thanx... I tried disabling that... I need to do a reboot now to reload the driver... I'll let you know if it works
[07:16] <hastesaver> acke_, mplayer or xine
[07:16] <acke_> movie player kindof sucks, i cant add subtitles to movies when i use it
[07:16] <placidious> i used to be able to access the network drive, now all i get is the authentication request over and over?
[07:16] <Meek-> eob84: i couldnt even use gnome when I had composite enabled
[07:16] <hastesaver> acke_, sure you can. mplayer <filename> -subfile <subfile> (or was it -sub? )
[07:16] <Meek-> oh he left..
[07:16] <acke_> ooh thanks
[07:16] <acke_> gotta try sometime
[07:17] <firefly_> hey
[07:17] <hastesaver> acke_, but use xine if you're comfortable with it already. It's better in some ways, and worse in others.
[07:17] <Rede> I have a high resolution video I'm watching, but it occasionally stutters. is there a way i can devote more system resources to my video app to prevent this?
[07:17] <LiteHedded> anyone in here care to take a stab at my ati issue?
[07:17] <firefly_> How can I change to use GNU jre instead of sun's?
[07:17] <fairy> Is there a preferred app for obtaining expose like functionality? (is skippy or expocity better then the other or is it just personal preference?)
[07:18] <hastesaver> I wish someone would write something to make xine have mplayer keybindings. As I understand it, xine's keybindings are fully customisable, so it should be possible...
[07:18] <nickrud> fairy, it's all personal prefs, since it's alpha software
[07:18] <dooglus> Rede: you could renice it
[07:18] <dooglus> Rede: or use mplayer - it seems to play better
[07:18] <hastesaver> Rede, you could also run it with -framedrop in mplayer, or the equivalent in whatever other app you're using
[07:18] <asdx> i can't install the nvidia 3d driver (i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable) or something like that, but it didn't change anything...
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> man, this is some of the crashiest piece of crap ever
[07:19] <fairy> nickrud, alrighties :) I'll just try one then :)
[07:19] <asdx> i went to console and tryed modprobing nvidia and it showed some error, that could not modprobe it
[07:19] <Rede> renice?
[07:19] <asdx> wtf
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> I just added some pics to a OO presentation
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> and it crashes, kindly offering to recover the document
[07:19] <asdx> no such file or directory
[07:19] <dooglus> Rede: "man renice"
[07:19] <nickrud> fairy, I'm on a kick to kick xgl questions, maybe it'll take :)
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> but then it crashes again
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> and again
[07:19] <troy_s> hastesaver: Give it a shot then!
[07:19] <Bot_Builde1> on the document
[07:20] <fairy> nickrud, well, I never did figure out how to get multiple dynamic xgl servers
[07:20] <fairy> so I switched back to xorg.
[07:20] <Bot_Builde1> I know its not ubuntu's fault, but godamnit
[07:20] <hastesaver> troy_s, aww.. .where are the people with the enthu to do these kind of things? :)
[07:20] <robert_> crap
[07:20] <robert_> I have I/O buffer errors
[07:20] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: I know it's not PC to say it, but a lot of open source software is pretty crappy, isn't it?  :)
[07:20] <Bot_Builde1> yeah it is
[07:20] <troy_s> hastesaver: Perhaps you aren't aware as to how community driven software / open source evolves ;)
[07:20] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, ouch. I trust openoffice a lot,
[07:21] <Bot_Builde1> I used to
[07:21] <Bot_Builde1> It seems stable on windows
[07:21] <Bot_Builde1> but ubuntu....
[07:21] <hastesaver> troy_s, I'll do it someday, I guess. I just wish someone else would do it for me :)
[07:21] <troy_s> hastesaver: It's from exactly people like you who go out and try a little bit, then others build on it.
[07:21] <Meek-> can someone explain this to me a little clearer? -> If you get an error about missing Composite extension when starting compiz, you probably tried to start it on the base Xorg server (which shouldn't be used for any program any more except for starting Xgl itself) and not on the Xgl server. Set your DISPLAY variable accordingly.
[07:21] <asdx> google earth for linux is a static binary?
[07:21] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, been using it for years, and never had something like that happen. Open office is my office
[07:22] <Bot_Builde1> yeah
[07:22] <Meek-> as in... where do I set my DISPLAY variable
[07:22] <Bot_Builde1> its my office on windows
[07:22] <hastesaver> Bot_Builde1, KDE's office apps are very good, IMHO. You should try them if OO.o is crashing too much.
[07:22] <firefly_> Does anyone know how to change my system to use the GNU java instead of the Sun one?
[07:22] <hastesaver> firefly_, update-alternatives
[07:22] <Bot_Builde1> I'm gonna have to text edit the file <>
[07:22] <robert_> bah
[07:22] <robert_> this drive sucks
[07:22] <dooglus> hastesaver: or try gnumeric/abiword
[07:23] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, try #openoffice, or the open office mail lists. They wanna hear about this.
[07:23] <dooglus> same question to number 1
[07:23] <dooglus> nickrud: they want to hear about un-official packages crashing?
[07:23] <dooglus> nickrud: Bot_Builde1's having problems with ubuntu builds, not OO.org builds
[07:24] <hastesaver> !tell firefly_ about java
[07:24] <nickrud> gnumeric is nice, so is abiword. But, I can't use them with my clueless windows compatriots. I got them using openoffice, gotta channel a real bug
[07:24] <firefly_> hastesaver: thanks, i'll look into that
[07:24] <Bot_Builde1> dooglus - I suppose.  It could just be this is a newer, buggier version of OO
[07:24] <dooglus> nickrud: gnumeric and abiword both speak open document format
[07:24] <nickrud> dooglus, erm point
[07:24] <eob84> Meek: Disabling renderaccel didn't seem to make any differance
[07:24] <Fash> hey all, so im following a guide, how can i do this ? -add "/usr/bin/startcompiz"
[07:25] <dooglus> Fash: add it to what?
[07:25] <nickrud> it's not like this is debian, with all it's checks & balances. Or, is this the same build?
[07:25] <Bot_Builde1> Ah I know what the problem is
[07:25] <hastesaver> nickrud, gnumeric and abiword actually look *more* like Excel and Word than OO.o.
[07:25] <LiteHedded> anyone care to help me with ati yet?
[07:25] <Fash> dooglus, sorry i didnt paste the full message, here it is -add "/usr/bin/startcompiz" to gnome session startup programs
[07:25] <Bot_Builde1> Its not liking me draggin pictures right onto the presentation
[07:26] <dooglus> Fash: oh, I never got the hang of gnome sessions.  the gnome session dialog just plain seems weird to me.
[07:26] <dooglus> Fash: but you'll find 'Sessions' somewhere in the system menu - that's the right place to be looking for 'startup'
[07:26] <nickrud> hastesaver, if you could tell me how to put a picture in abiword headers, I'd consider a change. (haven't looked in the last couple of months, true. Things change)
[07:27] <eob84> Meek-: Disabling renderaccel didn't seem to make any differance
[07:28] <hastesaver> nickrud, sorry, I don't know. I rarely use Abiword-like apps, anyway. I'm confused by them; I use LaTeX :)
[07:28] <tripppy> !tell tripppy unrar
[07:28] <tripppy> !tell unrar
[07:28] <dooglus> !unrar
[07:28] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dooglus
[07:28] <nickrud> hastesaver, did you see the part about clueless windows users?
[07:28] <Meek-> eob84: whats happening for you?
[07:28] <dooglus> tripppy: "unrar" is a package in dapper.  i breezy it's probably "unrar-nonfree" you want
[07:28] <nickrud> hastesaver, erm, supposed to be funny there, failed
[07:28] <tripppy> k
[07:29] <dooglus> !rar
[07:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:29] <dooglus> tripppy: your 3rd 'p' is trippping me out, man
[07:29] <eob84> Meek-: Before I installed the nvidia driver I was able to use 1152x864... after installing it I can only use 800x600@60hz for my desktop
[07:29] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, try using the insert picture option, it may work better
[07:30] <mystamax> what is the vnc SERVEr product for XFCE??
[07:30] <nickrud> mystamax, very good question, I don't think there is one
[07:30] <dooglus> mystamax: try #xubuntu or #xfce I guess
[07:30] <Bot_Builde1> nickrud - thats what i was thinking
[07:30] <Bot_Builde1> but first i need to fix my xml file
[07:30] <Meek-> eob84, hmm we're having dif problems then :o
[07:30] <Bot_Builde1> and gedit hangs on loading it
[07:31] <Bot_Builde1> so I'm using the bloody hex editor
[07:31] <dooglus> mystamax: I use x11vnc to share the current desktop
[07:31] <tripppy> dooglus: hehe, thanks for help. ubuntu roks. im putting one ontop of fridge.
[07:31] <Bot_Builde1> whos string search assumes a null ender
[07:31] <eob84> Meek-: What is the issue you are having?
[07:31] <mystamax> dooglus: is that something diffrent from a vnc SERVER?
[07:31] <robert_> whee
[07:31] <mystamax> dooglus: could I do resumable sessions with x11vnc?
[07:31] <dooglus> mystamax: "vnc-server" shares a *new* desktop, not the one you're working on
[07:32] <dooglus> mystamax: resumable?  how you mean?
[07:32] <mystamax> My goal is to be able to login to XFCE w/o having to have autologin or leaving a user logged in
[07:32] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, without sounding to condesending (hopefully) I wish you real luck
[07:33] <Bot_Builde1> hehe
[07:33] <Bot_Builde1> thanks
[07:33] <Meek-> eob84, trying to just get xgl/compiz working... compiz says I need the composite extension, but that freaks my x session out
[07:33] <Bot_Builde1> ah, eclipse might work better for xml editing
[07:33] <dooglus> mystamax: that's default behaviour isn't it?  no-autologin?
[07:34] <eob84> Meek-: I see... Haven't played with that yet... one step at a time :-(
[07:34] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: emacs21 won't hang on reading it.
[07:34] <Dirge> Hello everyone.
[07:34] <dooglus> hi Dirge
[07:35] <Dirge> I'm using Gnome, but everything I want to do (especially file tranfsers and file edits) require root access. How do I give root access to the current user?
[07:35] <__j0sh__> g'day mate
[07:35] <mystamax> dooglus: I don't think I could just restart a server, and log into the GUI remotely via VNC
[07:35] <nickrud> dooglus, could you recommend a major mode for emacs21 & Bot_Builde1 problem? I know it's the swiss army knife :)
[07:36] <dooglus> nickrud: he's currently using a hex editor...  so "fundamental-mode" would be a huge step up
[07:36] <nickrud> dooglus, point again
[07:36] <Bot_Builde1> :P
[07:37] <dooglus> nickrud: also, xml-mode is an alias for ml-mode': Major mode for editing SGML documents.
[07:37] <Bot_Builde1> ah, i need to install emacs - working on it
[07:37] <dooglus> ooh, it didn't like pasting that.  `sgml-mode', that was supposed to say.
[07:38] <dooglus> who told me it was a good idea to use ` as the 'escape' key in screen?  I just found out why it isn't :)
[07:38] <nickrud> I'm gonna learn docbook in emacs if it kills me, and it probably will. I cry over source these days
[07:38] <Dirge> Am I supposed to go into terminal and use su in order to save a file I was editing in a GUI?
[07:38] <dooglus> Dirge: I use emacs21 to edit files as root
[07:39] <nickrud> Dirge, no, your gui should save somewhere
[07:39] <dooglus> Dirge: if you tell it to edit:    /root@localhost:/etc/apt/sources.list    then it sudo's to root, and edits the file as root in that buffer
[07:39] <Dirge> It will never allow me to save or edit files. The OS keeps altering the files into root access only.
[07:39] <nickrud> Dirge, if it's a file you need to write as root, save it to the Desktop and then copy or move it to the proper place with sudo
[07:39] <Dirge> And external HDD is root only as well.
[07:39] <asdx> can anyone tell me why nvidia drivers dosn't work in the live cd?
[07:40] <Dirge> So I can't transfer to or edit anything there.
[07:40] <dooglus> Dirge: what filesystem type is the external HDD?
[07:40] <Dirge> NTFS
[07:40] <Bot_Builde1> ok, i open content.xml with emacs, nothing is on the screen
[07:40] <AJ004> which is the best videoplayer for linux?
[07:40] <Bot_Builde1> least, i think i have, i can't really tell because of the crap UI :P
[07:40] <Dirge> VLC
[07:40] <AJ004> that is compatible with all the codecs
[07:40] <asdx> AJ004: vlc
[07:40] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, I was hoping to get you better help, so I'm bowing out now
[07:40] <dooglus> Dirge: that'll be why then.  Linux has a hard time writing to NTFS, due to Microsoft's refusal to publish NTFS specs.
[07:40] <AJ004> how do i install vlc?
[07:41] <Dirge> It'll write, but I need to go into terminal and su then copy.
[07:41] <Dirge> Why can't the GUI have root access?
[07:41] <AJ004> asdx:  Is vlc in synaptic?
[07:41] <dooglus> Dirge: you can "sudo gedit" if you want to gedit as root
[07:41] <Dirge> That's a temp fix.
[07:41] <Bot_Builde1> Dirge - because linux people are like that
[07:41] <dooglus> Dirge: is it?
[07:41] <Flannel> Dirge, dooglus, gksudo
[07:41] <Bot_Builde1> gui shouldn't do anything important and such
[07:41] <dooglus> Flannel: same difference.
[07:42] <nickrud> Dirge, no, that is the definition of permissions
[07:42] <Flannel> dooglus: no, sudo can screw things up
[07:42] <Dirge> important such as editing files and file transfers?
[07:42] <AJ004> ok found vlc
[07:42] <AJ004> will try it
[07:42] <dooglus> Flannel: when running gedit?
[07:42] <Dirge> Well I want to GIVE permissions.
[07:42] <nickrud> dooglus, not quite, $HOME is different in sudo & gksudo
[07:42] <Bot_Builde1> yeah, permissions have basically made knoppix useless for recovery
[07:42] <Bot_Builde1> makes me want to make a linux distro specifically for utility
[07:43] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: lack of permissions has basically made Windows useless for anything
[07:43] <Bot_Builde1> but that'd take a while
[07:43] <Dirge> For instance, I have a file I want to download, I try yo download then save it, but I can't save it to the external HDD because it's for root only.
[07:43] <AJ004> i installed VLC but which directory is it in?
[07:43] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: why don't you just run everything as root?
[07:43] <Dirge> It won't let me log into the GUI as root.
[07:43] <Bot_Builde1> dooglus, I know, but for a utility distro it kinda sucks
[07:44] <Flannel> dooglus: running everything as root? what?
[07:44] <nickrud> Dirge, linux does not write to ntfs for one simple reason: microsoft has not published the specs needed for reliable writing to ntfs
[07:44] <Bot_Builde1> jesus, I'm going to resort to vi
[07:44] <Jaak_> How do i permanently change the rights of an folder
[07:44] <dooglus> Dirge: it will if you 'fix' the AllowRoot=false line in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:44] <Bot_Builde1> worse than a text editor
[07:44] <Dirge> AJ004 Applications -> Soung & Video
[07:44] <dooglus> Flannel: Dirge doesn't like 'permissions'.  he wants to be able to write to any file he wants.
[07:44] <Bot_Builde1> *hex editor
[07:44] <cge> Dirge: /quit
[07:44] <Dirge> No thanks.
[07:45] <steveO> any opers that can kill steveO_?  It's my ghost.
[07:45] <Flannel> Dirge: we haven't reverse engineered safe writing, so there are things that'll let you write to ntfs, but can't guarentee they wont hose the partition.
[07:45] <Dirge> Also, it won't let me write anywhere except home.
[07:45] <cge> Dirge: Err, that was unintentional.
[07:45] <Flannel> Dirge: right, that's by design
[07:45] <steveO> nm.
[07:45] <Dirge> Not just the external NTFS HDD.
[07:45] <garryfre> IN breezy it ws easy to figure out how to get read access to toher hard drives. Not so Dapper so far.
[07:45] <Dirge> Ok, how do I give a user root access?
[07:45] <Madpilot> Dirge, that's because the system owns /, you don't
[07:45] <dooglus> Dirge: you add him to the 'admin' group.  then he can use 'sudo'
[07:45] <Mersault> I've recently migrated to dapper drake (clean install), and I don't like the Sessions management panel as much. I need to control the order in which startup items are run. Which file should I add the commands to that I would have put in the Sessions admin pane?
[07:45] <Bot_Builde1> oh jesus
[07:45] <Dirge> Ok, done... Why doesn't it work.
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> the xml file is one big line
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> and i can't scroll down in vim
[07:46] <nickrud> hrm, does anyone remember the ghost command for killing your old avatars off hand?
[07:46] <garryfre> You would want to use sudo not give yourself enough priveleges to hang yourself.
[07:46] <Flannel> steveO_: you can, with ghost, for future reference (/msg nickserv help ghost)
[07:46] <dooglus> Dirge: what did you do?
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> ok, I'm going to download the Vista beta
[07:46] <AJ004> nope
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> this sucks
[07:46] <AJ004> vlc doesnt work and neither does movie player
[07:46] <AJ004> it is an ASX file
[07:46] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: use emacs21
[07:46] <Dirge> What video are you trying to watch AJ004?
[07:46] <Bot_Builde1> I have, when i opened the file nothing was there
[07:46] <DShepherd> nickrud: /gshost nick passwd? is that wat you want?
[07:46] <Flannel> Bot_Builde1: that's because its saved with different line endings
[07:47] <Bot_Builde1> Flannel - it was saved by openoffice
[07:47] <Bot_Builde1> I think its to save space
[07:47] <AJ004> dirge:  An ASX format video
[07:47] <Bot_Builde1> but really it makes it un-human editable
[07:47] <Bot_Builde1> probably what screwed up gedit, its one big ass line
[07:47] <nickrud> DShepherd, yeah, steveO_ was looking for that, thanks
[07:48] <Dirge> System -> Users & Groups -> Select my name -> Properties -> Advanced -> Main Group -> Admin
[07:48] <Jaak_> Is the wrong word i am looking for? Beceause i can't find any documentation on How i permanently change the rights of an folder?
[07:48] <dooglus> Dirge: that won't take effect until the user next logs in
[07:48] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, there are editors that'll visually break a long line so it doesn't run off the screen - Bluefish, for example
[07:48] <Jaak_> Is it Rights?
[07:48] <Dirge> That was done 3 days ago.
[07:48] <Dirge> And 25+ logins
[07:49] <Bot_Builde1> man, I'll make better progress submitting a bug report and waiting for the next version of OO
[07:49] <Flannel> dooglus: do you want to change the owner? or the permissions?
[07:49] <dooglus> Dirge: how did you run the 'Users & Groups' think if you can't sudo?
[07:49] <nickrud> Jaak_, permissions is the word
[07:49] <Flannel> erm, Jaak_
[07:49] <Jaak_> =D
[07:49] <dooglus> Flannel: neither.
[07:49] <Bot_Builde1> madpilot - that is true, but internally a 65K line seems to screw many text editors
[07:49] <Flannel> dooglus: not you.
[07:49] <Flannel> Jaak_: changing owner or permissions?
[07:49] <Dirge> It asks for the SU password to enter the Administrator tools
[07:49] <Flannel> Dirge: no, it asks for YOUR sudo password
[07:49] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, what was this 65k/single line file created in?
[07:49] <Jaak_> permissions
[07:49] <Jaak_> thanks
[07:49] <dooglus> Dirge: the SU password?  not your own user password?
[07:50] <Flannel> Jaak_: alright, you want chmod, chown is for owner.
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> It's an openoffice document, unzipped, the content.xml file
[07:50] <Dirge> I made both the same.
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> I'm trying to fix it so openoffice doesn't crash when i open it
[07:50] <dooglus> Dirge: if you can run the users & groups thing, then you can use 'sudo'
[07:50] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, ah... I'm not sure OOo files are really designed to be unpacked :|
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> they aren't
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> but i have no other option
[07:50] <Bot_Builde1> this is due tomorrow
[07:51] <Dirge> But that's not the issue, that's working properly. But giving permission to a user is the issue.
[07:51] <Bot_Builde1> and ive worked on it a few weeks
[07:51] <DShepherd> nickrud: no prob
[07:51] <dooglus> Dirge: permission to do what?
[07:51] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, ouch... do you know what's breaking?
[07:51] <Bot_Builde1> yes
[07:51] <kholerabbi> What's the shortcuts for switching workspaces??
[07:51] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, really, I'd go ask on #openoffice or their mail lists, whatever distro it is, they would like to know about dragging & dropping failing
[07:51] <Flannel> Dirge: Dirge what's the issue? just add them to the admin group.
[07:51] <Bot_Builde1> I just need to remove references to some images
[07:51] <Dirge> Edit, transfer files, create files, etc.
[07:51] <CRASH69> hi. I am about to set up a desktop with ubuntu, do I have to get plug-ins for mp3, CSS dvd, etc? what about wireless? is there any "good" pages about this?
[07:51] <Bot_Builde1> dragging and dropping images, as nickrud said are what broke it
[07:51] <dooglus> Dirge: everyone has permissions to do that
[07:51] <Flannel> !tell CRASH69 about restrictedformats
[07:52] <Dirge> I only have 1 user, Myself. But I can't do anything that you'd expect to be able to do.
[07:52] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, search & replace will work even if it's one giant messy line
[07:52] <Flannel> oh, psh.
[07:52] <dooglus> Dirge: but only for files they have permission to do those things on
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> bloody dual screenness... I wouldn't have even tried drag and drop if i didn't have two screens :)
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> Anybody know of a way to check open up the modem and play it through the speakers without doing anything?  We have dialup and I'd like a way to check whether anyone is online, but actually dialing sometimes will kick them off if they are, so I just want to be able to check whether there's a dial tone or internet nonsense.
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> madpilot - how do i search in vim?
[07:52] <dooglus> Dirge: I would expect your user to be able to edit his own files, and not the system files.
[07:52] <Flannel> CRASH69: that page will get you info on all those
[07:52] <concept10> I need help in figuring out this video problem.  The screen never refreshes.  This happens in all video players.  Its been like this since I switched to dapper 4 months ago.  Any suggestions?
[07:52] <dooglus> Dirge: what would you expect?
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> its the least user friendly program in existance
[07:52] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, not sure, I use nano when I can't use gedit, myself
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> ah nano
[07:52] <Bot_Builde1> I'll try it
[07:52] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: you type "/", then a regular expression, then hit return
[07:52] <concept10> Bot_Builde1, try cream for vim
[07:53] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, nano has basic commands listed along the bottom of the screen all the time - much more sensible :)
[07:53] <kholerabbi> tonyyarusso - if you have a normal telephone plugged into the same line, pick it up and you'll hear the bzz
[07:53] <Bot_Builde1> ooh yes
[07:53] <dooglus> Madpilot: can it search?
[07:53] <Bot_Builde1> svn ci uses nano
[07:53] <Dirge> I have a xorg.test file in X11, but after I transfer it there (even though I'm the creator) I'm locked out and have to tranfer again and overwrite it in su mode.
[07:53] <Madpilot> dooglus, I'm sure it can
[07:53] <Flannel> dooglus: it can.
[07:53] <Madpilot> Dirge, use sudo in Ubuntu plus your own user pw - there's no need for su by default...
[07:53] <concept10> Bot_Builde1, download Cream for VIM.  It turns VIM into a normal editor
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> kholerabbi: I don't have one in this room.  Not a huge deal, but an it would be nice if.
[07:54] <Flannel> it's an ncurses based text editor, using ncurses isntead of a GUI
[07:54] <dooglus> Dirge: you can make it writable with a "chmod +w"
[07:54] <concept10> I use it everyday
[07:54] <nickrud> Dirge, and the problem with that is?
[07:54] <CRASH69> Flannel, thx
[07:54] <Bot_Builde1> yes nano looks good
[07:54] <Bot_Builde1> concept10 - willdo when ive got the time
[07:54] <kholerabbi> tonyyarusso: hmmm.... dunno than
[07:54] <concept10> it takes 1 min with apt
[07:55] <Dirge> I'd like my user (Myself) to automatically have root access.
[07:55] <nickrud> Dirge, its supposed to be that freaking way. You (a simple user) are not root (the master of the universe, in the case, your os)
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> kholerabbi: I was thinking along the lines of somehow just saying to send the modem device stuff through to the audio out, but I have no idea how that would work.
[07:55] <Dirge> Any way to do that?
[07:55] <dooglus> Dirge: can you give more information about your xorg.test example?  how do you transfer it?  what does an "ls -l" show on the source and destination of the transfer?
[07:55] <concept10> anyone seen a common thread or wiki page for video problems on dapper?
[07:55] <Madpilot> Dirge, why? that's uselessly risky and best avoided...
[07:55] <Flannel> Dirge: running as root is the stupidest thing you can do
[07:55] <eob84> After installing the nvidia-glx driver I can ony seem to get my desktop to display at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>any help?
[07:55] <nickrud> Dirge, no.
[07:56] <Flannel> !tell eob84 about fixres
[07:56] <concept10> !video
[07:56] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, concept10
[07:56] <Dirge> well, entering terminal every 30 seconds and manually typing a directory that's hella long is getting very annoying.
[07:56] <gavagai> Dirge, use tab completion for the directory
[07:56] <dooglus> Dirge: you could alias 'cp' to 'sudo cp', and so on...
[07:56] <kholerabbi> tonyyarusso: it may be possible to do it thruogh software - I really dunno ..   (I tried asking this before without luck, so low hopes here.)
[07:57] <Dirge> How to I alias every single folder so that I don't have to type /etc/X11/etc etc
[07:57] <phoghawk> dooglus, are you still here? I need more of your lovely help
[07:57] <dooglus> phoghawk: I am.  It would be good to help you again.
[07:57] <Madpilot> Dirge, the Tab key is your friend. /et<tab>X1<tab> will get you /etc/X11 in half the keystrokes...
[07:57] <dooglus> phoghawk: the advice I've been giving recently has been travelling through 2 ears and 0 brains I fear
[07:58] <Dirge> I'm changing my system settings to allow for dual monitors, and it requires a LOT of testing. lots of startx etc.. And typing it all out over and over is very cubersome.
[07:58] <phoghawk> dooglus, awesome, I decided to change one of the filesystems from vfat to ntfs, but now I'm having the same problems. I can't read or write to that partition
[07:58] <dooglus> Dirge: you can use CDPATH to quickly cd around the place if that helps
[07:58] <phoghawk> dooglus, what do you usually put for your ntfs partitions, if you have any
[07:58] <dooglus> phoghawk: and umask=0 didn't help?  (NTFS is readonly in Linux, anyway, by default)
[07:59] <dooglus> phoghawk: I have: /dev/hda1 /mnt/c        ntfs noauto,umask=0,nls=iso8859-1,uid=501,gid=501,nls=iso8859-15    0 0
[07:59] <odinriko> How do I make it so my usb hd is writeable by non-root user when it's mounted?  It's using ext3
[07:59] <odinriko> .
[07:59] <phoghawk> dooglus, oh, so is there no way I can write to it?
[07:59] <dooglus> phoghawk: there is.  everyone here will tell you it's not safe though.
[07:59] <kholerabbi> Could someone send me the wiki for installing java .. I had it but it seems to have gone to the moon
[07:59] <phoghawk> dooglus, why isn't it safe?
[07:59] <Flannel> dooglus: that's because it's not safe.  It's not an opinion, it's fact.
[07:59] <krazykit> phoghawk: writing to ntfs is a good way to lose your data.
[07:59] <garryfre> NO safe way to write to it.
[08:00] <nickrud> Dirge, I see your point about that; try cd /etc/X11 , it will give you easy access or xorg.conf, you won't have to prepend /etc/X11 to xorg.conf every time.
[08:00] <gavagai> Dirge, you can remember directories with pushd.  man bash and read about pushd
[08:00] <Pupbuntoo> Hi, when i use serpentine to try to make an audio cd, i tell it to add an mp3 file (which xmms plays just fine) and it says "unsupported file type, make sure you have the gstreamer plugins".  I'm pretty sure I have all the gstreamer stuff.  Any ideas what could be wrong or how to debug?
[08:00] <phoghawk> even if you just copy it to the ntfs partition
[08:00] <Madpilot> kholerabbi, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:00] <krazykit> phoghawk: the problem is that microsoft won't release the specs.
[08:00] <phoghawk> krazykit, silly M$
[08:00] <dooglus> phoghawk: see http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount
[08:00] <_mason> Hey
[08:00] <phoghawk> dooglus, okay, thanks
[08:00] <garryfre> Migrainesoft did not release all the specks for ntfs, and things keep changing. It can do strange things to nice try file system.
[08:00] <dooglus> Flannel: is http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount lying then?
[08:00] <krazykit> phoghawk: yes, you could possibly mess up other bits of the fs.  read-only support is ok, but writing... is not recommended
[08:01] <xice> yeah, just dont do it
[08:01] <Bot_Builde1> what's sad is that m$ might have done something right when they wrote wordpad
[08:01] <dooglus> phoghawk: Microsoft keep the inner workings of NTFS secret, so Linux can't write to it with guesswork...
[08:01] <Bot_Builde1> its way better than any of this stuff
[08:01] <kholerabbi> hehe thanks
[08:01] <odinriko> Can anyone at least point me in the correct direction?
[08:02] <phoghawk> dooglus, I suppose that's okay. Do you think I'll be able to install windows on the NTFS partition I created in gParted?
[08:02] <Dirge> hmmm, I have a java application "*.jar" and the Archive Manager keeps opening it. How do I run it with Java?
[08:02] <Bot_Builde1> sorry, but at least it can edit text
[08:02] <dooglus> phoghawk: I've no idea, sorry
[08:02] <Snoops> some of the distros use the ntfs driver ms uses.. apparently it's very slow and still doesn't guarantee anything
[08:02] <phoghawk> dooglus, no problem
[08:02] <Madpilot> Dirge, got the Sun Java j2re installed?
[08:03] <Starseed> new super mario bros is so damn fun
[08:03] <Dirge> I think so. I did that a few days ago.
[08:03] <nickrud> phoghawk, you probably want to use the windows partitioner, to at least touch an ntfs partition you want to write in windows. Just bad experience talking here.
[08:03] <dooglus> Flannel: see, in particular, http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_safe_is_the_ntfs_driver
[08:03] <tylerofl> can someone tell me how i can go about getting ubuntu to detect my mp3 player?
[08:04] <Madpilot> Dirge, when you installed Sun Java, did you do the java-reconfigure thing?
[08:04] <tylerofl> it doesn't come up as a hard drive like it should
[08:04] <dooglus> Flannel: if you have any evidence at all that it's not safe, could you point me at it please?
[08:04] <garryfre> So, what is the proper wya to gain readonly permissions so I can browse disks. It was easy to puzzle it out in Breezy, not so easy with Dapper, the user=??? in fstab does not work. It keeps saying I have no permissions to browse and I'd rather not have to swap a memstick 400 times.
[08:04] <phoghawk> nickrud, ya, I tried that, but it was being really weird. I created a partition and it still said it wasn't a valid one
[08:04] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: USB I suppose? Try doing an 'lsusb' from a command line and pastebin the output .. (http://www.pastebin.com )
[08:04] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:04] <Dirge> No, what's that? I'm still checking to make sure it installed correctly.
[08:05] <Bot_Builde1> Damnit, nano has no undo
[08:05] <nickrud> phoghawk, yeah. I'm talking about years old experience, which gets hazy. I enjoy not needing windows :)
[08:05] <Madpilot> Dirge, long URL, but here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java#head-fef9352fb26820bb774df978180c9dd3a60e777b
[08:05] <Bot_Builde1> I've spent this whole time laboriously deleting xml:image elements
[08:05] <eob84> Flannel: Thanx but it was nothing that easy...
[08:05] <phoghawk> nickrud, I haven't used it in a year or so, but I figure it's always good to have, now that I have more HDD space
[08:05] <nickrud> Bot_Builde1, did it work?
[08:06] <Bot_Builde1> nah, I just deleted a bit too much of one i wanted to keep
[08:06] <Bot_Builde1> and nano has no undo
[08:06] <amit> how to play mp3 songs on ubuntu?
[08:06] <tylerofl> neutrinomass: strange, it doesn't come up at all
[08:06] <tylerofl> it's as if it's not even plugged in, but it says USB connected on the player itself
[08:07] <nickrud> phoghawk, true, there are a few games worth playing, or so I hear. Can't even concieve of a reason to use windows otherwise :)
[08:07] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: Check the cabling then ...
[08:07] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: Are you sure the mp3 player works? Can you try it on another PC ?
[08:07] <amit> how to play mp3 songs on ubuntu?
[08:07] <tylerofl> the same cable works just fine on my digital camera
[08:07] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: AFAIK *every* device has to show up in lsusb ..
[08:07] <neutrinomass> !ubotu tell amit about mp3
[08:07] <Flannel> !tell amit about mp3
[08:07] <nickrud> !mp3
[08:07] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:07] <tylerofl> i will try it on the computer upstairs
[08:07] <nickrud> late again
[08:08] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:08] <amit> i have installed amarok but i am not able to play songs
[08:08] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: emacs21 has multi-level undo, and interactive regular-expression search-and-replace
[08:08] <phoghawk> amit, you need the w32codecs package
[08:08] <Bot_Builde1> but no giant ass line support :P
[08:08] <DShepherd> amit: install libxine-extracodecs.. or something like that
[08:08] <phoghawk> amit, maybe it's win32codecs
[08:08] <neutrinomass> amit: Please read the link ubotu gave you :)
[08:08] <nickrud> amit, install libxine-extracodecs, you will need to enable the multiverse repo, see below
[08:08] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: it supports long lines too
[08:08] <nickrud> !multiverse
[08:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:08] <Bot_Builde1> really well it was a blank screen for me
[08:08] <Dirge> ok, those all were set up to use Suns Java.. Not sure why it won't run.
[08:08] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: that was vim
[08:09] <Bot_Builde1> the opening system was probably too complex for the likes of me
[08:09] <Bot_Builde1> no i tried emacs too
[08:10] <Bot_Builde1> ok figured out what the xml i deleted probably was
[08:10] <DShepherd> does it seem like people are using the help system that comes with ubuntu?
[08:10] <Bot_Builde1> now the moment of truth
[08:10] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: when I open a .odt in Emacs, it shows me a list of the contents of the archive.
[08:10] <Madpilot> DShepherd, probably not :)
[08:10] <Bot_Builde1> dooglus - you have to unzip it
[08:10] <udo> how can i test my speakers?
[08:10] <Bot_Builde1> and open content.xml
[08:11] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: it unzips it for me.  see screenshot: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/2006-06-13--08-10-51.png
[08:11] <nickrud> DShepherd, no
[08:11] <Bot_Builde1> it unzips for me too
[08:11] <Bot_Builde1> but if its a big content.xml file some editors might screw up
[08:11] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: the arrow characters in the last column indicate 'long-ass line'
[08:11] <DShepherd> Madpilot: i think so too. there's alot of answers there. I guess that's why I think the 'ubuntu welcome center' is a great idea. I think people just doesnt know it exists
[08:11] <Bot_Builde1> oh, yeah
[08:11] <nickrud> DShepherd, but what i've read is good, we need to link ubotu to the proper places
[08:11] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: sure.  that's why I'm recommending a proper editor
[08:12] <Bot_Builde1> I would be very surprised if this works...
[08:12] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: is the document available on-line?  or is it private?
[08:13] <nickrud> Madpilot, I hear there's a wiki to docbook converter in the pipeline ...
[08:13] <Bot_Builde1> I could stick it up
[08:13] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok
[08:13] <tylerofl> back
[08:13] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: go on then.  or email me @gmail.com
[08:13] <tylerofl> okay, the computer upstairs is running windows XP. it detected that something was plugged in, but it had a problem recognizing the device
[08:14] <nickrud> cuz docbook is rediculously complex
[08:14] <neutrinomass> tylerofl: I'm not sure then... it's probably a device issue. It is supposed to show under lsusb in any case :(
[08:14] <tylerofl> :(
[08:14] <Bot_Builde1> http://botbuilder.googlepages.com/GrudichGeorg.odp
[08:14] <tylerofl> alright, thanks though
[08:15] <Madpilot> nickrud, yeah, I've seen demonstrations, actually. Sometimes it produces good DocBook XML, sometimes it...doesn't... ;)
[08:15] <Bot_Builde1> may linux have mercy on your OO
[08:16] <Bot_Builde1> oh wait
[08:16] <nickrud> Madpilot, from what I read, that's reasonable. But, anyone that can do docbook from their fingertips should be either canonized, or bronzed :)
[08:16] <Dirge> This is getting very annoying, I can't install any plugin through Firefox.
[08:16] <Bot_Builde1> Looks like my fixes worked :)
[08:17] <Bot_Builde1> wait no
[08:17] <Bot_Builde1> it crashed as soon as the offending slides came into view
[08:17] <Madpilot> nickrud, I fake it with lots of copy & paste from existing code that I know works :) Regular HTML/CSS I can do cold (mostly) but DocBook XML is a whole other beast
[08:17] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: what did you want editing with it?
[08:18] <Bot_Builde1> at the time i was drag/dropping images into it
[08:18] <Bot_Builde1> seemed to work fine
[08:18] <nickrud> Madpilot, it's (except for fundamental laziness) that keeps me from doing more. You all did a great job on the docs, if it matters ;)
[08:18] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: it opens fine in Emacs: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/2006-06-13--08-18-18.png
[08:18] <Bot_Builde1> hmm
[08:19] <Bot_Builde1> but does it open fine in OO :P
[08:19] <amit> could anyone help regarding porting of images to ARM processors
[08:19] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: I don't run stupid wysiwyg office apps unless I have to
[08:19] <Bot_Builde1> ah thats pretty hardcore ;p
[08:19] <Bot_Builde1> I'd think you'd be on debian or slackware or someat
[08:20] <amit> i mean uClinux image to lpc22xx
[08:20] <Anubix> HEY can someone please help me with a quickie stupid xchat question?
[08:20] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[08:20] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[08:20] <nickrud> nah, Bot_Builde1 a lot of people hang out on this os, cuz it is taking chances. On a stable foundation
[08:21] <Bot_Builde1> ah
[08:21] <Anubix> I think its a flood thing, but when i use an @find anywhere, i will get a maximum of 5 private message tabs, then all the rest go to the active window
[08:21] <Anubix> how do i fix this?
[08:21] <Bot_Builde1> my..god...
[08:21] <Anubix> it didn't use to do this, just started today
[08:21] <Bot_Builde1> saving to powerpoint file fixed it
[08:21] <amit> compilation problem : undefined refrence to lookup_machine_type
[08:21] <Bot_Builde1> screw ODF :)
[08:21] <amit> error raised by a linker
[08:21] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, what happens when you save the PPT back as an OOo format?
[08:22] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: here's a properly formatted short-ass line xml file if you're interested: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/content.xml
[08:22] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: I am on debian :)
[08:22] <dooglus> Bot_Builde1: I've not been able to run ubuntu since I upgraded to Edgy a few days back :)
[08:22] <garryfre> So, what is the proper wya to gain readonly permissions so I can browse disks. It was easy to puzzle it out in Breezy, not so easy with Dapper, the user=??? in fstab does not work. It keeps saying I have no permissions to browse and I'd rather not have to swap a memstick 400 times.
[08:22] <garryfre> So, what is the proper wya to gain readonly permissions so I can browse disks. It was easy to puzzle it out in Breezy, not so easy with Dapper, the user=??? in fstab does not work. It keeps saying I have no permissions to browse and I'd rather not have to swap a memstick 400 times.
[08:22] <Bot_Builde1> thanks, I'm curious what went wrong
[08:23] <nickrud> dooglus, you freak
[08:23] <Anubix> xchat wont open more than 5 tabs (or 7 total w/ status tab + channel) it just dumps all private messages into active window (ie from an @find)
[08:23] <dooglus> nickrud: it's for testing / bug reporting purposes
[08:23] <nickrud> dooglus, edgy isn't even defined yet
[08:23] <HedgeMage> Anubix: if you have that many chans/pms at a time you might want to consider irssi
[08:23] <dooglus> garryfre: uid=1000,umask=0
[08:23] <Bot_Builde1> ah
[08:24] <Bot_Builde1> I know what it is... drag and drop creates image references
[08:24] <dooglus> nickrud: that's why I'm surprised it was different enough to break anything
[08:24] <Anubix> hedge: i don't have more than 2 to 4 open at once, however, when i do an @find for say... green day in a big room, i can't read the results, 'cause they all get jumbled together in the active chan
[08:24] <garryfre> dooglus Thanks kindly.
[08:24] <Bot_Builde1> and when its working in its own little seperate folder world, those images don't exist
[08:24] <Madpilot> Bot_Builde1, might want to file a bug w/ OOo, and (if you can) include the file that broke
[08:24] <Bot_Builde1> I will
[08:24] <Geoffrey2> Dirge, as far as I know, Firefox can't download and install plugins itself on Ubuntu...any plugins you need will have to be installed with apt-get or the Synaptic Package Manager
[08:24] <nickrud> dooglus, I've got a spare partition, and, nah, I'm not that masochistic :)
[08:25] <Jimmy89> how can i configure my wireless key to be key#2 using network-monitor?
[08:25] <garryfre> dooglus I put that in fstab I assume?
[08:25] <dooglus> nickrud: my 'fallback' is debian sid ;)
[08:25] <Snowfairy> Ooooh, now I know what Anubix is talking about lol.  Some of the fserves in those channels don't PM you btw.  Some use /notice (which if I remember right will show up in main channel)
[08:25] <dooglus> garryfre: you put it in fstab as part (or all) of the options - ie. the last but 2 field
[08:25] <nickrud> dooglus, that was my only os for many years, more stable than anything else I used during that time.
[08:25] <garryfre> Ok, thanks, will do.
[08:26] <HedgeMage> Anubix: ahh, not sure what to tell you then... I gave up xchat about the time they dragged me on to freenode staff... I have *way* too much junk to keep track of now :P
[08:26] <Jimmy89> anyone know how to make the wep key go into key#2 ??????
[08:26] <Anubix> snowfairy: i goto infomatrix, have been for 7 years, know everyone, and nobody uses notices. trust me they're all coming as /msg's
[08:26] <dooglus> nickrud: I'm not sure if 'stable' is the word for it - 32 package updates so far today...
[08:26] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: I have installed firefox plugins from the mozilla.org website, without apt-get. I don't think they need to be packaged - I'm not sure either though.
[08:26] <mcpowley> Has anyone used bastille to "harden" linux? If so, recommend it?
[08:26] <Snowfairy> Anubix, not a clue then :)  I stopped using IRC for file-sharing long ago :P
[08:26] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:26] <Toge> hello
[08:27] <Anubix> i'm just trying to get stuff, i'm not serving (from my ubuntu-laptop) its just a royal pain in the pa-too to find something with a broad searchstring
[08:27] <nickrud> dooglus, stable is probably the wrong word, usable is closer maybe.
[08:27] <Toge> how can i install a ".bin"? (i downloaded googleearth beta 4 release)
[08:27] <suprchris> I have a radeon 9200pro and the only resolution available is 640x480, can anyone help?
[08:27] <Dirge> ok, this is pissing me off. I'm about to go back to Windows since it actually works.
[08:27] <dooglus> nickrud: yes, it seems very 'reliable', for want of a better word.  constantly changing, but constantly good
[08:27] <Jimmy89> anyone know how to make the wep key go into key#2 ??????
[08:27] <nickrud> Toge, sh ./GoogleEarth.bin
[08:27] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell suprchris about resolution
[08:27] <Geoffrey2> I asked this a while back but got sidetracked on something else and so missed the answer, if one was given....are there any additional ways to configure Power Management settings besides the limited options provided under System>Preferences>Power Management?
[08:27] <Anubix> Toge: i saw ur thread on the forum earlier
[08:27] <Snowfairy> Wish I knew what to tell you, I've not experienced that with X-chat (running 2.6.1)
[08:27] <Toge> thanks nickrud
[08:27] <nickrud> dooglus, nicely put
[08:27] <dooglus> Toge: 1. "chmod +x file.bin"; 2. "./file.bin"
[08:28] <Dirge> Could not open the file /home/dirge/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin using the Unicode (UTF-8) character coding.
[08:28] <Toge> i tried ./file-bin but it didnt start
[08:28] <dooglus> Toge: you need to do step 1 before step 2.  did you?
[08:28] <Dirge> I tried every type of character coding, so either Linux is wrong, or Sun Microsystems...
[08:28] <udo> how can i setup my sound card to work i have a the chipset via82xx
[08:29] <mantono> is it possible to assign an application a specific PID?
[08:29] <dooglus> Dirge: what are you trying to do?
[08:29] <Dirge> Install Java
[08:29] <Geoffrey2> neutrinomass, you may be right...I tried having Firefox auto-download the Flash plugin, to have Firefox report the install had failed....dunno
[08:29] <nickrud> Toge, and file-bin is supposed to be the 'file.bin' you downloaded, replace true text for placeholders
[08:29] <neutrinomass> suprchris: The link ubotu gave you will probably sort your issue. In the meantime, can you PLEASE file a bug? Such resolution problems are showstoppers for newbies and should be reported :(
[08:29] <Toge> dooglus, I used "sh ./file.bin", it worked
[08:29] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: I think flash is different for some reason :-/
[08:29] <dooglus> Dirge: the package is called 'sun-java5-jre'.  use synaptic or apt-get or aptitude to install it.
[08:30] <Dirge> With Windows all you have to do is click install on Firefox.. Ubuntu, nothing works.
[08:30] <Toge> nickrud, "sh ./file.bin and it worked
[08:30] <dooglus> Toge: that's OK if it's a shell script, but not if it isn't
[08:30] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: I installed stuff like tab-improvements etc.
[08:30] <Dirge> I tried Synaptic. it didn't work.
[08:30] <dooglus> Dirge: details?
[08:30] <neutrinomass> Dirge: I take it you restarted firefox, right ?
[08:30] <B1zz> i just did an update on my system now when i run prefrences on firefox i get the following error :  XML Parsing Error: syntax error
[08:30] <B1zz> Location: chrome://browser/content/preferences/preferences.xul
[08:30] <B1zz> Line Number 1, Column 1:ssed = true;
[08:30] <B1zz> ^
[08:30] <Dirge> Yes
[08:30] <B1zz> oppes
[08:30] <Geoffrey2> neutrinomass, are you talking about Plugins, or Firefox extensions?
[08:30] <udo> does anyone have ac97 on borad sound?
[08:31] <Dirge> It wouldn't let me install via Firefox,.
[08:31] <Jimmy89> anyone know how to make the wep key go into key#2 ??????
[08:31] <neutrinomass> Geoffrey2: I'm clueless and it shows. Sorry, I was talking about extensions :(
[08:31] <Dirge> Stuff like this is why I start and stop Linux. I've even taken Linux classes, but nothing works as it should.
[08:32] <cparker> Dirge: I feel your pain...
[08:32] <dooglus> Dirge: where "as it should" means "as I've become accustomed to by years of Windows use"?
[08:32] <Geoffrey2> neutrinomass, no problem...when it comes to Linux in general. I probably am only part way to knowing just enough to be truly dangerous to myself :)
[08:32] <Snowfairy> Dirge I know the feeling :) however, I tend to find things work exactly as they should, just not as one intuitively expects.
[08:32] <Snoops> isn't firefox installed by default on dapper Dirge?
[08:32] <Dirge> Right now half my screen is hidden from me, the 2nd monitor is blank.
[08:32] <Dirge> yes
[08:32] <cparker> dooglus: No, "as it should" means "as it was intended".
[08:33] <Dirge> "as it should" means that the Linux/Firefox button that says install .... INSTALLS.
[08:33] <dooglus> cparker: Dirge seems to be complaining that he can't install a system upgrade using his web browser.  Why should he be able to?
[08:34] <Snowfairy> Dirge, you have to keep in mind that most of the plugins are proprietary.
[08:34] <Dirge> I've tried using the Java .bin... That doesn't work either.
[08:34] <dooglus> cparker: you install system upgrades using the update manager - doesn't that make more sense?  the web browser is for browsing the web.
[08:34] <cparker> dooglus: I would think that when clicking an install button for a Firefox extension fails, that's not the intended result.
[08:34] <Dirge> I've also tried Synaptic, that doesn't work EITHER
[08:34] <dooglus> cparker: he's talking about the java runtime VM
[08:34] <Hoxzer> :)
[08:34] <nickrud> Dirge, just do: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin . This is not windows. do not expect it to be.
[08:34] <loxety> good evening
[08:35] <klauss> hi there,im looking for help-ive got trouble with my working memory :-(
[08:35] <Hhhhhh> question: I have xubuntu draper in my old PII 300Mhz 256MB RAM lappy, and it runs fast enough. Would Ubuntu draper run decently as well, or it would be too slow?
[08:35] <Dirge> E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[08:35] <Hoxzer> g|) evening
[08:35] <Snowfairy> dirge, you've not added the proper repositories then.
[08:35] <Hoxzer> loxety:  btw it is  9 o'clock here :O
[08:35] <B1zz> when i try to run prefrence setting on firefox i get the following windows that pops up and gives me the following message:  http://pastebin.com/705977
[08:35] <Dirge> I've added all but the source.