[12:03] <_nano_> kakei: i got a similar error...particular after i upgraded to 3.5
[12:03] <Lacerta> how do i make a directory in shell?
[12:03] <_nano_> Lacerta: mkdir directoryname
[12:03] <Lacerta> thx
[12:04] <kakei> _nano_ can u describe me ur error
[12:04] <_nano_> kakei: just after upgrading when I logged out I got this kdmgreet error
[12:04] <kakei> same here
[12:04] <kakei> how did u solve it?
[12:04] <kakei> sudo aptitude reinstall kdm?
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: I rebooted and logged in through console
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: did startx
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: got kde running
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: upgraded kdm or something...
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: using adept
[12:05] <_nano_> kakei: and then it worked
[12:06] <Lacerta> is there a way to save shell output?
[12:06] <_nano_> Lacerta: you could copy paste?
[12:06] <Lacerta> _nano_: i'm not in graphical mode
[12:07] <_nano_> Lacerta: you could redirect the output to a file
[12:07] <Lacerta> hwo do i do that`?
[12:07] <Lacerta> aah
[12:07] <Lacerta> got it
[12:08] <_nano_> Lacerta: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/io-redirection.html
[12:08] <Lacerta> okay, now i definitely got it :)
[12:09] <Lacerta> i'm trying to figure out why do I have to install nVidia's driver every time I boot my PC
[12:12] <kakei> _nano_
[12:12] <kakei> i reinstalled kdm but same
[12:12] <kakei> =(
[12:12] <_nano_> kakei: how did you reinstall?
[12:13] <_nano_> kakei: do you get the kdm screen ?
[12:13] <_nano_> kakei: on reboot?
[12:13] <kakei> yes
[12:13] <kakei> but tell me the same
[12:13] <kakei> kdmgreet .
[12:13] <_nano_> kakei: so it threw you back to console mode?
[12:14] <kakei> yes
[12:14] <Lacerta> what's the command to create a file?
[12:15] <kakei> kate filename.extension
[12:15] <_nano_> kakei: Lacerta doesn't seem to have X :P
[12:15] <kakei> nao
[12:15] <_nano_> Lacerta: nano
[12:15] <kakei> nano
[12:16] <Lacerta> huh?
[12:16] <kakei> _nano_ help me =(
[12:16] <_nano_> !nano
[12:16] <ubotu> _nano_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:16] <_nano_> kakei: use adept?
[12:16] <kakei> synaptic
[12:16] <_nano_> kakei: see what it says for kdm? is it upgradable?
[12:17] <_nano_> kakei: actually the kde3.5 upgrade somehow skipped the kdm upgrade for me...
[12:17] <kakei> how do i know if it's upgradeable?
[12:17] <_nano_> kakei: it says so in synaptic or adept.
[12:17] <kakei> if have an star is upgradeable?
[12:17] <_nano_> kakei: yeah
[12:17] <kakei> hmm yes its upgradeable
[12:17] <_nano_> kakei: so upgrade it
[12:18] <_nano_> !info nano
[12:18] <ubotu> nano: (free Pico clone with some new features), section editors, is standard. Version: 1.3.8-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 232 kB, Installed size: 1268 kB
[12:18] <kakei> _nano_ upgrade done i think
[12:19] <_nano_> kakei: restart?
[12:19] <kakei> k brb
[12:19] <yanqi> hi
[12:20] <yanqi> i'm lookin for the initrd file from the kubuntu flight-2 iso. it would spare me to download the entire iso just for one file
[12:22] <kakei> _nano_ thanks
[12:22] <_nano_> kakei: works? :P
[12:22] <kakei> es
[12:22] <kakei> yes
[12:22] <dante_> the mplayer site down for anyone else?
[12:22] <_nano_> kakei: i think some more packages would be upgradable
[12:22] <_nano_> kakei: like kopete etc...
[12:23] <_nano_> kakei: you might wanna check synaptic
[12:23] <kakei> nano how can i put all the KDE default the fonts looks messed
[12:26] <kakei> _nano_ marking all the upgrade's will be easier not?
[12:26] <_nano_> kakei: didn't get you?
[12:27] <_nano_> kakei: elaborate a bit
[12:27] <kakei> _nano_ can u make me a big favor? can u host to my a screenshot ok kcontrol on Fonts tab? pls :)
[12:28] <_nano_> kakei: lol
[12:28] <_nano_> kakei: fonts a large?
[12:28] <kakei> yo ccan save a life
[12:28] <kakei> :)
[12:28] <_nano_> kakei: okies
[12:28] <kakei> Fonts
[12:28] <kakei> general,fixed..etc
[12:29] <_nano_> kakei: provided you like my settings lol
[12:30] <kakei> http://imageshack.us for host the image
[12:31] <Hobbsee> there's screenshots in the pastebin, too
[12:31] <kakei> didnt know ehe
[12:32] <_nano_> !pastebin
[12:32] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:33] <_nano_> kakei: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5970
[12:34] <djk_> _nano_: i suppose you could have just told him 'default'...
[12:35] <_nano_> djk_: my font settings were changed when i upgraded kdm
[12:35] <_nano_> djk_: so i assumed kakei's would be as well
[12:36] <kakei> i will reboot X brb
[12:37] <kakei> back
[12:39] <_nano_> kakei: why did you have to restart X ?
[12:41] <kakei> to turn on my
[12:41] <kakei> sharpering font
[12:42] <_nano_> kakei: aah
[12:44] <kakei> _nano_ :)!
[12:44] <kakei> heh can u show me ur desktop? ehehe
[12:45] <djk_> _nano_: you use kde3.5 don't you? official or the kubuntupackage?
[12:45] <_nano_> djk_: yeah i followed the announcement in the kubuntu wepage
[12:45] <_nano_> kakei: lot's of secret stuff..sorry :P
[12:46] <_nano_> kakei: me working for cia lol
[12:46] <kakei> ahaha
[12:46] <djk_> _nano_: okay, so one can fairly assume that they won't rape kcontrol again..
[12:47] <_nano_> djk_: who won't? kubuntu guys?
[12:47] <_nano_> djk_: how would I know :P
[12:48] <djk_> _nano_: yes.. i dislike 'System Settings' instead of the Control Center :)
[12:48] <djk_> apokryphos: well, you're weird :p
[12:52] <djk_> apokryphos: but why do you prefer it?
[12:52] <Serberus> why did they bother with System settings anyway, trying to simplify things?
[12:52] <apokryphos> djk_: clearer overview, more aesthetically pleasing. I like the integration it uses, disliked the old tree-view
[12:53] <apokryphos> and wasn't a fan of the alternative icon view so much
[12:53] <Serberus> i just tweaked desktop settings a bit and now Azureus has gone funky and disappeared off my desktop :S
[12:53] <apokryphos> prime opportunity to discover KTorrent ;-)
[12:54] <djk_> or bittornado
[12:54] <Serberus> i'm used to Azureus from windows. i could use some super karamba action tho to see how much RAM i'm using etc
[12:55] <seth_k|lappy> Serberus, fantastik is what you want
[12:55] <seth_k|lappy> Serberus, it's a nice SuperK theme
[12:56] <Serberus> thanks, i'll check it out
[12:57] <seth_k|lappy> Serberus, I highly suggest poking into the .theme file and adjusting the colors to suit; it's very easy to understand
[12:58] <apokryphos> Azureus will eat your CPU in courses :P
[12:58] <_nano_> Azureus is java based right?
[12:59] <Serberus> yup
[12:59] <Serberus> it's pretty memory hungry as a consequence
[01:00] <Serberus> does bittornado support multiple torrents? it's shadow client re-branded?
[01:00] <Serberus> shadow's*
[01:01] <djk_> bittornado supports multiple torrents.. no idea about the latter.
[01:02] <man2d> !seen z-vet
[01:02] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'z-vet', man2d
[01:02] <man2d> !seen digitall
[01:02] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'digitall', man2d
[01:03] <man2d> !seen z-*
[01:03] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'z-*', man2d
[01:03] <man2d> stupid bot =)
[01:04] <sampan> what's a good ogg ripper program for kde?  preferably one that will let me easily set different quality levels
[01:07] <angasule> dapper = testing version of kubuntu?
[01:07] <_sparrow> hello channel
[01:08] <Hobbsee> angasule: yes
[01:08] <angasule> thanks, Hobbsee
[01:08] <Hobbsee> it's not supposed to be stable till april next year
[01:08] <man2d> Hobbsee: is it very buggy?
[01:08] <angasule> ah, can't wait for KDE 3.5
[01:09] <man2d> angasule: KDE 3.5 is already available in repositary
[01:09] <Hobbsee> man2d: depends on the day lol - it can be
[01:09] <angasule> sampan: have you tried kaudiocreator?
[01:09] <Hobbsee> seems ok today
[01:09] <angasule> what's the package name? kde35?
[01:09] <man2d> Hobbsee: =)
[01:09] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[01:09] <ubotu> I guess kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:09] <man2d> angasule: http://kubuntu.org - see the news
[01:09] <sampan> angasule  nope -- just toying with the idea of converting all my mp3s to ogg and wondering what apps are recommended for ripping cds into ogg
[01:10] <angasule> but it mentions dapper in that same release
[01:11] <man2d> and what is the principal difference?
[01:11] <_sparrow> can someone help me wirth the rsolution/size of the tty-terminals?
[01:11] <angasule> sampan: umh, you mean re-ripping audio CDs into ogg, right? converting from mp3 to ogg is a bad idea
[01:11] <angasule> man2d: stability
[01:11] <sampan> angasule  yep, that's what i said: "ripping cds into ogg"
[01:12] <angasule> ouchs
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> kkathman: I do have one issue I notice with 3.5 - the only filetype preview that works is images, no sound, no pdf, no textfiles. etc.
[01:23] <sampan> heh, kde has some nice stuff: konq rips into flac/ogg/mp3 (and can even do album as one continuous file) -- on the downside, even the kde org's help webpage doesn't display quite right on my konq
[01:34] <djk_> where are usb systems like mp3players mounted?
[01:34] <bimberi> djk_: /media usually
[01:35] <djk_> bimberi: yea.. usually..
[01:35] <bimberi> djk_: df ?
[01:36] <djk_> bimberi: sda1 apparently..
[01:37] <bimberi> djk_: oh yes, sloppy first answer (sorry) - should have been /media/<something> :)
[01:38] <djk_> bimberi: mmh, weird, i can't delete mp3s off of it
[01:39] <djk_> any idea why or what i can do?
[01:40] <kakei> any one know how to install PhotoShop with wine in Kubuntu?
[01:41] <manveru> !wine
[01:41] <bimberi> djk_: when i delete, the files get put in a .Trash (or the like) directory on the player (emptying the trash does the job)
[01:41] <bimberi> s/does/completes/
[01:41] <manveru> ubotu: tell kakei about wine
[01:42] <kakei> manveru i have wine but no idea of how to install PhotoShop
[01:42] <djk_> bimberi: heh, weird.. apparently it's readonly.. wasn't the last time
[01:42] <djk_> even weirder that i already deleted one file..
[01:42] <kakei> hey the image of k7 kernel allow u to use 386.deb 586.deb and 686.deb files?
[01:43] <djk_> bimberi: how do i mount rw?
[01:43] <djk_> and what's the 'safely remove' option good for, if only root can do it..
[01:45] <bimberi> djk_: i'm not aware of the safely remove optio, "mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1" ?
[01:46] <bimberi> *^n
[01:48] <djk_> bimberi: thanks.. and the safely remove option was given in konqueror..
[01:49] <bimberi> djk_: yw :) - i have to admit i'm a gnome (hence nautilus) user :)
[01:50] <djk_> bimberi: i usually use krusader :)
[01:52] <Snake__> dead room
[01:52] <Hobbsee> not really
[01:52] <Snake__> Hobbsee no ones talking...
[01:52] <Hobbsee> true
[01:52] <Hobbsee> still people in here though
[01:53] <Snake__> So....they are all dead
[01:53] <Snake__> :-P
[01:53] <Hobbsee> mmm
[01:53] <xtacocorex> i haven't figured out what to ask
[01:53] <Snake__> lol
[01:54] <Hobbsee> nah, dont do that...
[01:54] <Hobbsee> lol
[01:54] <xtacocorex> bimberi: how do you get text like that?
[01:54] <Hobbsee> already had some kicking practice
[01:54] <bimberi> Hobbsee: /msg ubotu kops
[01:54] <Hobbsee> xtacocorex: type /me blah
[01:54] <bimberi> /me considers....
[01:54] <xtacocorex> ah
[01:54] <xtacocorex> thanks
[01:54] <xtacocorex> i've seen people use it, but never figured it out
[01:54] <Hobbsee> yeah, true
[01:55] <xtacocorex> well dinner, be back
[01:56] <Hal9000> i have the 64 bit version... how do i listen to wma files? where are the codecs?
[01:57] <Hal9000> sorry wrong channel :P
[02:03] <kkathman> howdy LeeJunFan :)
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> hiya
[02:19] <yanqi> i've installed ubuntu but i prefer kde, is there a way to install kubuntu without having to burn a cd and you know
[02:19] <bimberi> yanqi: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:20] <yanqi> bimberi, will it erase automatically everything from gnome ?
[02:21] <bimberi> yanqi: no, you'll have a dual install and can choose either from the Sessions menu on the login screen
[02:22] <yanqi> bimberi, but it would be possible to erase and purge bloated gnome outta ma hard drive ?
[02:22] <yanqi> like aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:23] <bimberi> yanqi: no, that will just remove the 37KB metapackage - and not the dependencies
[02:23] <yanqi> damn
[02:24] <yanqi> bimberi, thanks a lot for the tip anyway
[02:24] <bimberi> yanqi: there might be a "deeper" package you can remove (like removing libqt3-mt will take out kde)
[02:24] <douglas> Klik seems to be working fine on Kubuntu except one thing, I can't move the files from my desktop :(.
[02:25] <yanqi> bimberi, i would like to install kubuntu by iso but my cd drive is down
[02:27] <douglas> yanqi: seems to me you would need one to install by iso
[02:27] <douglas> sorry
[02:28] <yanqi> yeah i know.. i've been able to install ubuntu by netinstall with grub and the breezt initrd, but there's no such file for kubuntu
[02:29] <bimberi> yanqi: removing libglib2.0-0 would get rid of gnome (and probably more besides) :)
[02:30] <yanqi> bimberi, i'm going to try.. thanks again all
[02:30] <bimberi> yanqi: np :)
[03:08] <Spandexx> hi guys
[03:08] <Spandexx> need help with KDE vs NIC card
[03:08] <Spandexx> ;)
[03:08] <Spandexx> I can not enable my NIC (3) with KDE (know bug on bugtrack)
[03:08] <Spandexx> how can I do that with command line.
[03:08] <Spandexx> searched and found nothing ;)
[03:09] <Spandexx> the cards are working fine in Ubuntu Breezy
[03:09] <Spandexx> hello...
[03:12] <robotgeek> Spandexx: ethernet card, you mean
[03:13] <Spandexx> yes
[03:13] <Spandexx> ;)
[03:13] <robotgeek> Spandexx: can you link me to the bug?
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> NIC == network interface card btw.
[03:13] <Spandexx> humm wait I will try
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> Spandexx: 'man interfaces' will give you the manpage for configuring your NIC's with the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[03:15] <Spandexx> humm ok
[03:16] <Spandexx> I can not find the note in Bugtrack
[03:16] <Spandexx> but this is no solution for now
[03:17] <Spandexx> I see in KDE that the nic is there but is disable
[03:18] <Spandexx> already configured for DHCP
[03:18] <Spandexx> on my PIX
[03:18] <robotgeek> Spandexx: it should work, try sudo ifup eth0
[03:19] <Spandexx> perfect ;)
[03:19] <Spandexx> I will try it
[03:20] <Spandexx> I will be back ;)
[03:20] <Spandexx> thanks robo
[03:20] <kakei> hey guys
[03:21] <kakei> can u help me
[03:21] <kakei> my PC reboot
[03:21] <kakei> himself
[03:23] <sorush20> how can I access the system settings as root rather than having to click on the administrator button
[03:23] <sorush20> ?
[03:23] <Hobbsee> sorush20: alt+f2,kdesu system settings
[03:26] <sorush20> Hobbsee: I keep gettting the message that it doesn't exsist..
[03:26] <Hobbsee> sorush20: alt+f2, kdesu kcontrol
[03:26] <Hobbsee> see if that one does
[03:26] <robotgeek> hey Hobbsee
[03:27] <Hobbsee> hi robotgeek
[03:29] <buddha> long time gentoo users here, just gotta give kudos to someone out there that this is one slick distro... that was all
[03:30] <robotgeek> buddha: hmm, i started using kubuntu yesterday
[03:30] <buddha> oh yea?
[03:31] <buddha> i'm just happy that everything just works w/ my laptop
[03:31] <robotgeek> i was using ubuntu before
[03:31] <robotgeek> with a lot of kde apps, so i put one machine completely on kubuntu
[03:32] <buddha> gnome/kde.. i use little of both worlds, but like the look of kde a bit more
[03:33] <buddha> both are great, just comes down to preference i guess
[03:38] <swim> hey folks, Im trying to fix that firefox annoyance, where /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html isn't found everytime firefox is started... supposedly according to: http://www.mail-archive.com/kubuntu-bugs%40lists.ubuntu.com/msg01907.html  there should be a newer version of kubuntu-docs that fixes this, but I can't find a newer version...
[03:46] <Absolute0> which package do i need to install to swithc from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[03:47] <Mr-Falkor> gnome ?
[03:47] <Mr-Falkor> kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde
[03:48] <robotgeek> Absolute0: you can install kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> ah
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> to swtich from
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> damn, i need glasses:)
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> sorry, my bad
[03:48] <Absolute0> i am on kubuntu
[03:48] <bimberi> s/k//
[03:48] <Mr-Falkor> sorry, Im confused
[03:49] <Absolute0> i dont think kubunutu-desktop will do much
[03:49] <bimberi> Absolute0: ubuntu-desktop
[03:49] <Absolute0> right...
[03:49] <Absolute0> thats 100 meg
[03:49] <Absolute0> shit
[03:49] <Mr-Falkor> yeah :)
[03:49] <bimberi> dialup?
[03:49] <Absolute0> dsl
[03:49] <Absolute0> =(
[03:49] <kakei> any one can help me? when i join my PC as normal user it reboot everytime (actually i'm in recovery mode)
[03:49] <Mr-Falkor> 100MB is not much
[03:49] <Absolute0> about 30 min
[03:50] <Absolute0> is it worth it?
[03:50] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, if you want gnome
[03:50] <robotgeek> kakei: the log is in /var/log/Xorg.log
[03:50] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, gnome feels like sirup
[03:50] <bimberi> Absolute0: no (in this channel) yes (in #ubuntu) :P
[03:50] <Absolute0> what does that mean
[03:50] <robotgeek> Absolute0: this is #kubuntu :)
[03:50] <Absolute0> i know
[03:50] <Absolute0> they're both same shit
[03:51] <Mr-Falkor> KDE is just faster
[03:51] <Absolute0> it is?
[03:51] <robotgeek> Absolute0: yes, except the gui
[03:51] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, jepp
[03:51] <Absolute0> i thought its the other way around...
[03:51] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, it isnt for me
[03:51] <Mr-Falkor> Absolute0, if you want GUI speed, install fluxbox
[03:51] <Absolute0> would you know why all my letters seem a little lurry on kubuntu?
[03:52] <robotgeek> i have them both, i don't see anything blazingly fast (except konqueror, whic rips)
[03:52] <kakei> robotgeek my log is big do u want to see it ?
[03:52] <robotgeek> kakei: please put it on pastebin
[03:52] <Absolute0> would you know why all my letters seem a little lurry on kubuntu?
[03:53] <robotgeek> Absolute0: are you on lcd/crt?
[03:53] <Absolute0> crt
[03:53] <kakei> robotgeek http://pastebin.com/472605
[03:53] <Absolute0> letters in knosole overlap
[03:53] <robotgeek> Absolute0: just change the font, to monospace
[03:53] <Absolute0> oh right
[03:53] <Absolute0> let me give it a shot
[03:54] <Absolute0> i was thinking of getting the "times new roman" font
[03:54] <Absolute0> which is the default windows one
[03:54] <robotgeek> kakei: your x seems to have loaded fine
[03:54] <kakei> =((
[03:54] <robotgeek> kakei: did you say that it boots fine, and then reboot?
[03:54] <robotgeek> Absolute0: that font is overrated :)
[03:54] <kakei> robotgeek yes
[03:55] <Absolute0> i dont have monospace
[03:55] <Absolute0> =(
[03:55] <kakei> but is weird because as recovery mode (root too) when i type startx don't reboot.
[03:55] <robotgeek> kakei: it just reboots, hmm..weird
[03:55] <Absolute0> nevermind
[03:55] <Absolute0> found it=)
[03:57] <robotgeek> brb
[03:59] <Absolute0> can i get times new roman?
[04:00] <robotgeek> Absolute0: apt-get install msttcorefonts
[04:00] <Absolute0> on linux
[04:00] <Mr-Falkor> Anyone livin in US ?
[04:00] <robotgeek> Absolute0: universe repository
[04:00] <robotgeek> Mr-Falkor: hmm, yes
[04:00] <Absolute0> E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[04:00] <robotgeek> Absolute0: one sec
[04:01] <Mr-Falkor> robotgeek, ok, I have a new project - fart in a bottle and send it to me (EU/Norway), and then Im gonna smell out of the bottle when I get it - and then document it .
[04:01] <Absolute0> i uncommentd universe
[04:01] <robotgeek> Absolute0: sorry, multiverse
[04:01] <swim> hey folks, Im trying to fix that firefox annoyance, where /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html isn't found everytime firefox is started... supposedly according to: http://www.mail-archive.com/kubuntu-bugs%40lists.ubuntu.com/msg01907.html  there should be a newer version of kubuntu-docs that fixes this, but I can't find a newer version...
[04:01] <robotgeek> Mr-Falkor: can you take this in #-offtopic
[04:02] <Absolute0> that too i think
[04:02] <Mr-Falkor> robotgeek, sure- thnx anyway
[04:03] <robotgeek> swim: can you just set your start page to something else?
[04:04] <swim> robotgeek: well yes, but i believe that the firefox "button" (top right that usually when you click takes you to firefox's site) is also directed to that file...
[04:04] <robotgeek> swim: hmm, one second. i am reading
[04:04] <Absolute0> i got these 2 line: # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:04] <Absolute0> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:04] <Absolute0> is that a type?
[04:04] <Absolute0> *typo
[04:04] <swim> but i suppose that is less important robotgeek
[04:05] <Absolute0> oh nevermind!!!
[04:05] <Absolute0> sorry
[04:05] <robotgeek> swim: are you asking about the update to kubuntu-docs
[04:05] <robotgeek> package, i mean
[04:05] <swim> robotgeek: yes
[04:06] <Absolute0> is it unsafe to just uncomment all the repositories in that file?
[04:06] <robotgeek> swim: apparently, it is fixed in dapper, but will be coming to breezy-updates soon
[04:06] <robotgeek> Absolute0: no, it's safe. but you might be installing non-free packages
[04:06] <swim> robotgeek: oh ok, not there yet then. thx
[04:06] <robotgeek> swim: yes, right now you can fix it by symlinking, apparently
[04:06] <swim> right
[04:06] <difeta> how can i change my password in the kwallet manager?
[04:07] <robotgeek> swim: do you want to do that ? :)
[04:07] <Absolute0> whats a non-free package?
[04:07] <swim> robotgeek: i might do it later, i've read the bug fix for that already thx
[04:08] <robotgeek> Absolute0: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[04:08] <Absolute0> ok after uncomenting everything i still get:E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[04:08] <robotgeek> swim: hmm, okay
[04:08] <Absolute0> i did update too
[04:08] <robotgeek> Absolute0: you need to apt-get update first
[04:08] <robotgeek> Absolute0: msttcorefonts shows up in multiverse for me
[04:09] <Absolute0> did u spell it correctly: msttcorefonts
[04:09] <manveru> !info msttcorefonts
[04:09] <robotgeek> Absolute0: i'm copy pasting :)
[04:09] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[04:09] <Absolute0> apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[04:09] <Absolute0> openoffice.org2 - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
[04:09] <Absolute0> openoffice.org - high-quality office productivity suite
[04:09] <robotgeek> manveru: ty
[04:09] <Absolute0> thats it...
[04:10] <robotgeek> Absolute0: multiverse
[04:10] <robotgeek> hmm, i gotta go and cook food. later ppl
[04:11] <demon71> Anyone help with video issue? "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)"
[04:11] <Absolute0> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[04:11] <Absolute0> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:11] <Absolute0> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:11] <Absolute0> see they're not commented
[04:11] <Absolute0> =(
[04:11] <robotgeek> Absolute0: weird
[04:11] <swim> hrmm im getting an error trying to compile baghira-cvs, during make... could someone have a look? : http://pastebin.ca/34425
[04:11] <Absolute0> let me try synaptic
[04:11] <EricCartman> Is there a reason why there isn't a MySQL 5 package yet
[04:12] <kalenedrael> Yeah, the developers/maintainers haven't come out with it?
[04:16] <swim> nm got that sorry just being stupid
[04:16] <kakei> sthk
[04:19] <M_Cheevy> heya ppl.. having a couple of problems with automounting of cdroms/dvds... all of my multimedia apps are happy with the automounting except totem (and dvdrip)... also I can't eject the disks or unmount them?  is there a good document relating to this.. I'm on page 10 of a google search and I'm not finding anything specific to my issue
[04:28] <Absolute0> i've just installed cabextract which came with msttcorefonts
[04:28] <Absolute0> how do use it now?
[04:28] <Absolute0> its not coming up in setting fonts
[04:28] <Absolute0> *settings->fonts
[04:28] <Absolute0> do i need to reboot?
[04:32] <Flying_Eagle> Absolute0, you only have to reboot when you changed your kernel
[04:32] <Absolute0> right
[04:33] <Absolute0> so how do i swithch to times new roman?
[04:33] <Absolute0> can this be the problem: warning: /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype does not exist or is not a directory
[04:34] <Absolute0> Setting up msttcorefonts (1.2) ...
[04:34] <Absolute0> warning: /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype does not exist or is not a directory
[04:34] <Absolute0> These fonts were provided by Microsoft "in the interest of cross-
[04:34] <Absolute0> platform compatibility".  This is no longer the case, but they are
[04:34] <Absolute0> still available from third parties.
[04:34] <Absolute0> You are free to download these fonts and use them for your own use,
[04:34] <Absolute0> but you may not redistribute them in modified form, including changes
[04:34] <Absolute0> to the file name or packaging format.
[04:34] <Absolute0> All fonts downloaded and installed.
[04:34] <Absolute0> sorry
[04:35] <nalioth> Absolute0: pasting is rude. we have the irc channel #flood or multiple pastebins
[04:35] <Absolute0> wont happen again
[04:36] <Absolute0> how can i load the new times roman font?
[04:36] <nalioth> Absolute0: put it in ~/.fonts
[04:36] <Absolute0> oh
[04:37] <Absolute0> mine is empty
[04:37] <Absolute0> =)
[04:41] <robotgeek> i'll brb
[04:56] <taojah> hello
[04:56] <taojah> anyone here
[04:57] <nalioth> yes
[04:57] <taojah> can you please help me with a noob question
[04:57] <taojah> To load a new theme, download the .theme file into ~/.irssi
[04:57] <taojah> what does this mean
[04:57] <taojah> how do it do it literally
[04:57] <taojah> right click/save target as?
[04:57] <taojah> i dunno
[04:58] <nalioth> taojah: i have lots of answers, that will probably seem unrelated to your question, but will help you immensely in the future
[04:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell taojah about cli
[04:58] <nalioth> the bot has sent you some info
[04:59] <nalioth> i suggest you d/l the blah.theme to your homedir or Desktop or wherever you usually d/l things to, and use the konsole to mv it into the .irssi dir
[05:00] <taojah> ok can you tell me how to get into the .irssi dir please
[05:00] <taojah> thats the part i cant figure out
[05:02] <nalioth> taojah: in the konsole, type "ls -a" and it should present itself to you
[05:03] <taojah> ok
[05:03] <taojah> that shows me .irssi
[05:06] <taojah> how do i open the directory
[05:06] <saikim> minghua here?
[05:06] <xtacocorex> taojah: if you're in konsole, type cd .irssi
[05:07] <spandexx> hi guys
[05:07] <spandexx> NIC 1 is working ;)
[05:07] <xtacocorex> taojah: cd is change directory
[05:07] <robotgeek> spandexx: good to hear :)
[05:07] <spandexx> I need help for my WLAN NIC ;)
[05:07] <saikim> i wanna to ask how to fix the scim bug!
[05:07] <taojah> ok what next
[05:07] <spandexx> I am installing KDE 3.5 and I fully update Breezy
[05:08] <robotgeek> spandexx: which wireless card  do you have?
[05:08] <xtacocorex> taojah: i don't know what you're trying to do, i just saw that you needed help getting into a directory
[05:08] <spandexx> IBM ThinkPad R51
[05:08] <spandexx> the card with  Ubuntu but not in Kubuntu
[05:08] <taojah> i need to open then directory on my desktop
[05:08] <taojah> as a folder
[05:08] <taojah> to drag soemthing there
[05:09] <spandexx> if I go on the GUI it doesn,t let met activate the carde
[05:09] <spandexx> card
[05:09] <robotgeek> spandexx: is that what the card is called? please paste the output of "lspci -v" to the pastebin
[05:09] <xtacocorex> taojah: i'd open up konqueror and browse to the .irssi directory
[05:09] <taojah> just type .irssi/directory  ?
[05:10] <xtacocorex> taojah: the .irssi would have to be appended to the path in the address bar of konqueror
[05:10] <taojah> oh gosh
[05:10] <taojah> isnt there something easy
[05:10] <spandexx> 000:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [F
[05:10] <taojah> to open the folder
[05:10] <spandexx> asterNet]  (rev 20)
[05:10] <spandexx>         Subsystem: Unknown device 0a00:2114
[05:10] <spandexx>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
[05:10] <xtacocorex> taojah: do you know the whole path to the .irssi directory?
[05:10] <spandexx>         I/O ports at e800 [size=128]
[05:10] <spandexx>         Memory at febfc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
[05:10] <spandexx>         Expansion ROM at febfe000 [disabled]  [size=2K]
[05:10] <spandexx> 0000:00:0a.1 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [F                                           asterNet]  (rev 20)
[05:10] <spandexx>         Subsystem: Unknown device 0a01:2114
[05:11] <spandexx>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
[05:11] <spandexx>         I/O ports at e880 [size=128]
[05:11] <spandexx>         Memory at febfd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
[05:11] <spandexx>         Expansion ROM at febfe800 [disabled]  [size=2K]
[05:11] <spandexx> 0000:00:0a.2 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [F                                           asterNet]  (rev 20)
[05:11] <xtacocorex> spandexx: use a pastebin
[05:11] <spandexx>         Subsystem: Unknown device 0a02:2114
[05:11] <spandexx>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
[05:11] <spandexx>         I/O ports at ec00 [size=128]
[05:11] <spandexx>         Memory at febff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
[05:11] <spandexx>         Expansion ROM at febfe800 [disabled]  [size=2K]
[05:11] <spandexx> oups
[05:11] <spandexx> sorry guys
[05:11] <xtacocorex> spandexx: it's all good
[05:11] <taojah> xtacore this is all i know i have to do ::  Usage: Copy the .theme file to ~/.irssi/ directory, change the theme with /SET theme theme_name
[05:11] <spandexx> hummm
[05:12] <xtacocorex> taojah: in konsole type the following: kfmclient exec ~/.irssi
[05:12] <spandexx> I can not go active the card on th GUI ---- in Ubuntu it worked ..so I know the card works
[05:12] <spandexx> but I want Kubuntu ;)
[05:12] <robotgeek> spandexx: pastebin please?
[05:13] <taojah> ok then what
[05:13] <spandexx> robot: what do you mean by pastebin
[05:13] <taojah> that shows the config
[05:13] <taojah> on a piece of paper
[05:13] <robotgeek> spandexx: /topic
[05:13] <robotgeek> spandexx: if you paste your config there, maybe we can show it to everybody else too
[05:13] <xtacocorex> taojah: drag the .theme file to that location in konqueror
[05:13] <spandexx> I have paste it on the channel ;)
[05:14] <spandexx> I dont want to flood the channnel... and be kicked ;)
[05:14] <taojah> ok
[05:14] <taojah> thats it?
[05:14] <xtacocorex> taojah: are you running irssi at the moment?
[05:14] <robotgeek> spandexx: no, paste in #flood
[05:14] <robotgeek> spandexx: why can't you paste in a pastebin?
[05:15] <taojah> xtacore yes
[05:15] <taojah> ./SET theme theme_name
[05:15] <taojah> whats the _ for
[05:15] <xtacocorex> taojah: in the window that you type messages to in irrsi type /SET theme <theme_name>, replace <theme_name> with the one you want
[05:16] <taojah> ./SET theme spot
[05:16] <taojah> ok
[05:16] <spandexx> done
[05:16] <taojah> done :)
[05:16] <xtacocorex> taojah: it work?
[05:16] <taojah> yep :)
[05:16] <xtacocorex> taojah: nice
[05:16] <taojah> how do i make the shell fullscreen
[05:17] <taojah> how do i make the shell(window) fullscreen
[05:17] <xtacocorex> taojah: for konsole, i think hit F11 when the window is selected
[05:17] <spandexx> root@HULK:/etc/apt# ifup eth1
[05:17] <spandexx> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[05:17] <taojah> nope :(
[05:18] <xtacocorex> taojah: let me check quick
[05:18] <taojah> hey xtacoco do you know how to disable join/part/quit messages in irssi
[05:18] <spandexx> so robo what do you thing
[05:18] <taojah> ok thanks :)
[05:18] <spandexx> think
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: the key combo is: ctrl+shift+F
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: i don't use irssi, so i had to figure what it was while helping you
[05:19] <taojah> coool
[05:19] <taojah> wow
[05:19] <taojah> thanks alot
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: np
[05:19] <taojah> i appreciate it
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: you get konsole resized?
[05:19] <taojah> yep
[05:19] <xtacocorex> taojah: nice
[05:20] <taojah> full screen now
[05:20] <taojah> i just want to get rid of join/part/quit messages now
[05:20] <taojah> :)
[05:20] <taojah> then its perfect
[05:20] <robotgeek> taojah: /ignore #channel JOINS PARTS QUITS
[05:21] <xtacocorex> taojah: after looking at the website, i might download and try it out
[05:21] <spandexx> must be an interfaces files problem
[05:21] <spandexx> I will paste it to #flood
[05:22] <robotgeek> spandexx: okay, i will join :)
[05:23] <xtacocorex> taojah: try this page: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup, it might have something
[05:23] <robotgeek> spandexx: your wireless interface is missing
[05:24] <spandexx> oups
[05:24] <spandexx> lol
[05:24] <spandexx> I think it is the file that muss param
[05:24] <spandexx> yep i think
[05:24] <robotgeek> taojah: or you can /help <command>
[05:25] <spandexx> how do i do that ;)
[05:25] <spandexx> map eth0
[05:25] <spandexx> # The primary network interface
[05:25] <spandexx> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:25] <taojah> thanks :)
[05:25] <robotgeek> spandexx: don't paste in here
[05:26] <spandexx> map eth1  iface eth1 inet dhcp ^
[05:26] <spandexx> ok sorry robo
[05:26] <robotgeek> spandexx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:26] <xtacocorex> taojah: after looking at that page, i'm not sure anything there relates to what you want, but that was a quick scan, but try this command in the window: /SET activity_hide_targets
[05:26] <spandexx> and I have another NIC (Xircom card)
[05:27] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: the /ignore works perfectly, i use it :)
[05:27] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: ah, thanks
[05:27] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: does that work in gaim also?
[05:28] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: ohh, i tht irssi
[05:28] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: i have never used gaim irc since i can't ssh
[05:28] <spandexx> can not load this page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:28] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: well i'm helping taojah with irssi and he/she wants to remove logons and logoffs from the chat window
[05:29] <xtacocorex> help ignore
[05:29] <xtacocorex> crap
[05:30] <robotgeek> spandexx: https://
[05:30] <spandexx> tried that ;)
[05:30] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: i told him/her before too?
[05:30] <spandexx> both protocole
[05:31] <spandexx> browser problem
[05:31] <robotgeek> spandexx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:31] <robotgeek> spandexx: works for me :)
[05:31] <taojah> ok well i used /ignore #channel joins parts quits ... think its working...
[05:32] <xtacocorex> taojah: nice
[05:32] <robotgeek> taojah: to remove that, all you need is /ignore #channel -joins -parts -quits
[05:33] <taojah> ok cool
[05:33] <taojah> thanks
[05:33] <taojah> hehe how did you know that
[05:33] <xtacocorex> taojah: you're welcome
[05:33] <taojah> cause i was wondering the same thing
[05:33] <taojah> :p
[05:33] <taojah> i thought maybe /unignore
[05:34] <robotgeek> taojah: that works too, i think. but /help ignore says do that, who am i to contradict :)
[05:34] <robotgeek> kakei: still not resolved? :(
[05:35] <kakei> robotgeek
[05:35] <kakei> yes it's resolved
[05:35] <kakei> :D
[05:35] <robotgeek> kakei: great, what was wrong?
[05:35] <kakei> i deleted my old kakei user and create a new one
[05:35] <robotgeek> kakei: hmm, interesting
[05:46] <Snake__> XMMS is the shit
[05:46] <Snake__> K bye
[05:46] <Snake__> :)
[06:03] <Snake__> is there any way to browse the web in konsole?
[06:03] <difeta> how can i remove all laoded themes from superkaramba? I have a theme that says its running, but I cannot see it.
[06:06] <robotgeek> Snake__: lynx/elinks/links2
[06:06] <Snake__> ?
[06:07] <Snake__> robotgeek: elaborate?
[06:07] <robotgeek> Snake__: you can use those to browse in console
[06:07] <Snake__> Ah, do I need to download?
[06:07] <Snake__> (when I did console lynx it didnt do anything)
[06:09] <Snake__> haha sweet I figured out www-browser
[06:11] <xtacocorex> i'm assuming people use kopete, does it bog your system down?
[06:11] <Snake__> Not really
[06:11] <Snake__> If it does tho, just go get GAIM
[06:11] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: no
[06:11] <Snake__> Works just as well
[06:12] <xtacocorex> Snake__: i use gaim now, but everytime i want to use kopete, when someone ims me, it freezes the system for a minute before i can do anything
[06:12] <Snake__> hmm
[06:12] <Snake__> Dunno thats odd tho
[06:12] <xtacocorex> it's sorta wierd because it worked perfect in fedora when i used to run that
[06:14] <xtacocorex> it's all good, i'll stick with gaim for everything except irc since i forgot about konversation
[06:26] <xtacocorex> anyone have an idea why my external usb harddrive (which automounted itself two days ago) doesn't now?
[06:26] <robotgeek> hmm, xtacocorex . weird
[06:27] <xtacocorex> i use it for backing up data from linux and i copied music over so i can listen to it at work on a winxp machine
[06:27] <xtacocorex> the system recognizes that it's there from the dmesg output
[06:29] <kakei> hey any idea of how to active on the killer bar to show the windows open? i can see anyone!
[06:31] <Snake__> Hey guys, I just uninstalled the beep-media-player and now XMMS wont play MP#
[06:31] <Snake__> MP3*
[06:31] <Snake__> Is there any way to get XMMS's dependcys bacK?
[06:31] <kakei> hey any one knows how to change the name showed by Konsole ? Actually is showing sh-3.00$
[06:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> kakei: type 'exit'

[06:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> or `bash`
[06:32] <kakei> i typed exit and my console close :)
[06:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> kakei: ok, your shell is now sh, not bash :O
[06:33] <Snake__> Oooo magic.
[06:33] <kakei> `bash`
[06:33] <Snake__> :)
[06:33] <kakei> work but the commands dont work
[06:33] <kakei> ls
[06:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'don't work'?
[06:35] <kakei> kakei@kakei:~$ ls
[06:35] <kakei> kakei@kakei:~$
[06:35] <Snake__> Anyone..
[06:35] <kakei> or commands like clear
[06:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Snake__: sorry, not sure.
[06:35] <kakei> doesnt work
[06:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Snake__ about mp3
[06:36] <xtacocorex> Snake__: did the uninstall of beep remove other packages?
[06:36] <Deathstarr> How do you uninstall  kubunutu
[06:36] <Snake__> I think so
[06:36] <Snake__> I think beep took the MP3 stuff with it
[06:36] <Deathstarr> anyone
[06:37] <Snake__> Deathstarr: reformat...
[06:37] <xtacocorex> Snake__: how did you uninstall it? command line? it should have listed all the packages it removed, and then jsut reinstall them
[06:37] <Deathstarr> How?
[06:37] <Snake__> What are you trying to put on your pc Deathstarr
[06:38] <Deathstarr> I am Trying to Take Kubuntu off my Drive.
[06:38] <Deathstarr> So that I only have Windows
[06:38] <Snake__> okay you either need to use a program like partition magic to delete the partition
[06:38] <Deathstarr> because I installed it and parents said it cant stay
[06:38] <Snake__> Well do you have 2 drives?
[06:38] <Snake__> or did you create a partition?
[06:38] <Deathstarr> I Dual Booted it
[06:39] <Snake__> But im saying when you installed it, did you make a new partition, or do you have another drive you put it on
[06:39] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: you can boot via a live cd, and remove the partition
[06:39] <AgeLesS> Deathstar, you can use anything you want to reformat that partition, and possibly if you have a tool like QTParted, you can extend your windows partition over the free space
[06:39] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: though you should convince your parents to let you have linux :)
[06:40] <Snake__> xtacocorex: I used adept
[06:40] <AgeLesS> indeed, did they have any objection in particular to linux?
[06:40] <Snake__> to uninstall
[06:40] <Deathstarr> well Everyone dosent know how to use it and its not just my computer
[06:40] <Deathstarr> I am on Windows Right now and Kub wont let me have a net Connection
[06:40] <xtacocorex> Deathstarr: there is also something build into windows that will actually show you the whole harddrive specs and the partitions and i think you can remove the partition from there, but i forgot where it is located at
[06:40] <xtacocorex> Snake__: does adept keep logs? the logs might list what was removed
[06:41] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: hmm, is it wireless?
[06:41] <Snake__> xtacocorex: im not sure
[06:41] <Deathstarr> No
[06:41] <Deathstarr> I would Have DSl Lan
[06:41] <Deathstarr> using Enet
[06:41] <xtacocorex> Snake__: hmm, i'd probably just go through the mp3 installation again
[06:41] <AgeLesS> check your net settings in the system settings
[06:41] <Snake__> xtacocorex: no logs that I can see
[06:41] <AgeLesS> or your logs
[06:41] <AgeLesS> there might be errors
[06:41] <Snake__> so I should just reinstall beep media?
[06:42] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: it shouldn't be a problem to get internet access, but you can use qtparted to wipe the linux partion
[06:42] <Snake__> I got a better idea, i'm going to uninstall xmms, and reinstall it
[06:42] <Deathstarr> So SOmeone Tell me the easyest way to uninstall Kubunutu
[06:42] <Snake__> that will bring the dependenys with it right?
[06:42] <xtacocorex> Snake__: that will work
[06:42] <xtacocorex> Snake__: it should
[06:42] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: boot from live cd, (do u have one?) , and remove partition
[06:42] <Deathstarr> I downloaded and Burned it
[06:43] <Snake__> Man programs in linux are so tiny
[06:43] <kakei> hey guys can u help me im trying my Windows Show in the Killer bar
[06:43] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: or in windows, right click on my computer -> Manage -> Disk Management
[06:43] <Deathstarr> and
[06:43] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: i think you can get rid of the partition from there
[06:43] <Deathstarr> ok Hold on
[06:43] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: that's where that is at
[06:43] <xtacocorex> robotgeek: i couldn't remember
[06:44] <AgeLesS> yeah, that is correct robotgeek
[06:44] <robotgeek> not too bad for someone who doesn't use windows :)
[06:44] <Snake__> CRAP it didnt reinstall it!
[06:44] <Snake__> Wtf!
[06:44] <xtacocorex> i used that once to find something
[06:45] <xtacocorex> ubotu tell Snake__ about mp3
[06:45] <Deathstarr> What am I looking for
[06:45] <robotgeek> Snake__: calm down
[06:45] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: Disk Management or something
[06:45] <Deathstarr> I went to Disk Managment and then To DiskManagment again On I have 3 Pations
[06:45] <xtacocorex> Snake__: the bot should tell you about the mp3 stuff
[06:45] <Snake__> Ive already done what that bot sys
[06:45] <Snake__> says*
[06:45] <xtacocorex> Snake__:
[06:45] <xtacocorex> oh
[06:45] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: delete the "unknown" (linux) partitions
[06:45] <Deathstarr> Snake just update over to Kubuntu It comes With More Media stuff
[06:46] <Snake__> ?
[06:46] <Deathstarr> I have two of them Do I Delete both other then the NTST
[06:46] <Deathstarr> NTFS**
[06:47] <xtacocorex> Deathstarr: keep the ntfs
[06:47] <xtacocorex> Deathstarr: delete the other two
[06:47] <Deathstarr> and Delete the other two
[06:47] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: there should be a boot partition, don't delete that or you wont be able to boot
[06:47] <xtacocorex> that is a good point
[06:48] <xtacocorex> unless he put the grub stuff in the mbr, then he'd have to use a windows disk in recovery mode and do a fixmbr
[06:48] <Deathstarr> I Delete both of them
[06:48] <Snake__> xtacocorex: It says it cant find gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:48] <robotgeek> Snake__: do you have multiverse enabled?
[06:48] <_nano_> !NTFS
[06:48] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:48] <Deathstarr> if I cant reboot I have a Few  Spells up my Sleeve that I know
[06:48] <robotgeek> xtacocorex: exactly, i had to do that
[06:49] <robotgeek> Deathstarr: :)
[06:49] <Deathstarr> so brb and I will tell You
[06:49] <Snake__> hes gonna fuck up his system
[06:49] <Snake__> lol
[06:49] <xtacocorex> hha
[06:49] <robotgeek> Snake__: language
[06:49] <Snake__> ...
[06:49] <Snake__> Hes gonna fark up his system
[06:49] <robotgeek> *sigh*
[06:50] <Snake__> I swear im going to get banned for cursing one day (No pun intended)
[06:50] <robotgeek> might happen, yes
[06:50] <Snake__> lol
[06:50] <Snake__> Sorry, it honestly does just slip
[06:50] <robotgeek> Snake__: the CoC is big here, and there might be kids on
[06:50] <Snake__> CoC?
[06:50] <robotgeek> !CoC
[06:50] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[06:50] <Snake__> Ah
[06:51] <xtacocorex> the bot is such a nice thing
[06:51] <Snake__> Could have just said code of conduct :)
[06:51] <Snake__> Anywho, so like
[06:51] <robotgeek> Snake__: i'm lazy
[06:51] <Snake__> should apt-get be findinging a package called gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:51] <Snake__> ??
[06:51] <crimsun> if you have multiverse enabled, yes
[06:51] <robotgeek> oh hey crimsun
[06:52] <Snake__> erm I think I do
[06:52] <crimsun> hi robotgeek
[06:52] <xtacocorex> well i must be off, work early tomorrow
[06:52] <xtacocorex> good luck Snake__
[06:52] <Snake__> Alright cya
[06:53] <Snake__> Umm I dont see no multiverse on this source.list
[06:53] <Snake__> crimsun:
[06:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Snake__ about repos
[06:58] <Snake__> ubotu: tell Snake__ about mp3
[07:07] <Snake__> Hmm this is odd
[07:07] <Snake__> I can stream MP3 but not play them off the HDD
[07:07] <Snake__> Meh whatever, all im doing is streaming anyway
[07:11] <robotgeek> hey seth_k|lappy
[07:12] <seth_k|lappy> hiya robotgeek, you've got ops here now
[07:12] <robotgeek> yes, you put me on top of the list
[07:12] <seth_k|lappy> ah yes, newest
[07:12] <seth_k|lappy> I'll alphabetize it in a sec
[07:12] <seth_k|lappy> if somebody from #ubuntu will help me out
[07:15] <Kalidarn> anyone about?
[07:15] <robotgeek> yes Kalidarn
[07:15] <kalenedrael> Yeah.
[07:15] <crimsun> bah, all dead.
[07:15] <Kalidarn> yeah so i thought
[07:15] <Kalidarn> i have a major problem which has brought me to tears
[07:15] <Snake__> im dead..
[07:15] <robotgeek> crimsun: maybe you can help seth_k|lappy
[07:15] <Kalidarn> ill start from the start.
[07:15] <crimsun> seth_k|lappy: ?
[07:16] <Snake__> Kalidarn: if aprogram can bring you to tears, I suggest you see a doctor :P
[07:16] <Kalidarn> i got an .avi file that was defaultly running in kaffeine which i didn't like so i left clicked on it and clicked "Edit this Filetype"
[07:16] <seth_k|lappy> crimsun, I need somebody with ops in #ubuntu to /query me the contents of the op access list. I'm working on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCOperators
[07:16] <seth_k|lappy> do you happen to have ops there?
[07:16] <Kalidarn> then under "Application Preference Order" i added the "mplayer" which was what i wanted to use
[07:16] <Kalidarn> then clicked okay
[07:16] <crimsun> seth_k|lappy: yes. I'll need to read the chanserv parameters, though. Hold.
[07:17] <Kalidarn> told me it updated my system
[07:17] <Snake__> ok
[07:17] <Kalidarn> but then i found out my kmenu was dead
[07:17] <seth_k|lappy> crimsun, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list :)
[07:17] <Snake__> Kalidarn: im listening :)
[07:17] <seth_k|lappy> thanks crimsun
[07:17] <Kalidarn> all the programs it it dissapeared.
[07:17] <Snake__> o..
[07:17] <Kalidarn> i cant get into konquror without being able to type it in konsole
[07:17] <Kalidarn> which i can only access via "Run Command...:
[07:17] <Kalidarn> i tried deleting .kde config directory, and reset still buggered.
[07:18] <Snake__> well you might be able to right click on the K
[07:18] <Kalidarn> yeah
[07:18] <Snake__> then menu editor
[07:18] <Kalidarn> Menu Editor doesnt work
[07:18] <Snake__> fuck
[07:18] <Kalidarn> does nothing when i click on it
[07:18] <Snake__> I mean
[07:18] <Snake__> Fark.
[07:18] <Kalidarn> thats what i am afraid of
[07:18] <Snake__> Hmm
[07:18] <Kalidarn> there must be some way of completly resetting kde to its original.
[07:19] <Snake__> Ya...but how...other than a reinstall
[07:19] <Kalidarn> heh
[07:19] <Kalidarn> thats the problem
[07:19] <Kalidarn> perhaps a kdedev might want to take a look at that, because i don't think its supposed to happen
[07:19] <Kalidarn> it didn't even ask me for root lol
[07:19] <Kalidarn> i want to create a new account, and see if it works under that
[07:19] <Snake__> umm well, its beyond my knowledge....hang on
[07:19] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: "rm -rf ~/.kde" doesn't work?
[07:19] <Kalidarn> then i will delete this account
[07:19] <Kalidarn> tried that didn't work
[07:20] <Kalidarn> someone in #kde mentioned that.
[07:20] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: hmm, weird. it _is_ supposed to work
[07:20] <Kalidarn> id have to kill KDM right?
[07:20] <Kalidarn> or it will just save the current settings to the new config won't it
[07:20] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: this "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" , then login from console, "rm -rf ~/.kde" and login again
[07:21] <Kalidarn> oh okay
[07:21] <Kalidarn> trying that now.
[07:23] <Snake__> robotgeek: how do you restart x?
[07:24] <Snake__> just out of curiosity
[07:24] <kalenedrael> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:24] <robotgeek> Snake__: either ctrl + alt + del
[07:24] <kalenedrael> Or ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:24] <Kalidarn> done, still busted
[07:24] <Snake__> Kalidarn: REINSTALL TIME!! WEEE!!
[07:25] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: hmm, maybe your should back up your user data, and create a new one?
[07:25] <Snake__> :)
[07:25] <kalenedrael> rm -rf .kderc, too
[07:25] <Kalidarn> hehe Snake__
[07:25] <Kalidarn> okay ill try that
[07:25] <kalenedrael> Wait, you're going to reinstall for a GUI theme problem?
[07:25] <Kalidarn> didnt kill kderc though
[07:25] <Kalidarn> i might try that.
[07:25] <Kalidarn> re-installing should not be necessary.
[07:25] <kalenedrael> Don't do that, that's a tremendous waste of time.
[07:25] <Snake__> kalenedrael: no hes not, I was just bein funneh :)
[07:25] <kalenedrael> :P
[07:25] <Kalidarn> anyway
[07:25] <Kalidarn> i can't
[07:26] <Kalidarn> even if i wanted to, i dont have a workstation to operate as a PXE server
[07:26] <Kalidarn> this laptop doesn't have anything other than a USB dvdburner
[07:26] <Kalidarn> as its one of them tablet pcs
[07:26] <kalenedrael> Hm.
[07:26] <Snake__> ooo those are nice I hear
[07:26] <kalenedrael> Damn :/
[07:26] <Kalidarn> ill try and delete .kderc
[07:26] <Kalidarn> like you said.
[07:26] <kalenedrael> Ok.
[07:26] <Snake__> I want a tablet PC...
[07:27] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:27] <kalenedrael> Yeah, delete .kde/ again too, while you're at it.
[07:27] <Kalidarn> DONT BUY A CLEVO
[07:27] <Kalidarn> hehee
[07:27] <Kalidarn> yeah i will
[07:27] <Snake__> Tablet PCs are touch screen arnt they?
[07:27] <kalenedrael> Tablet PCs are nice except for their lack of built in optical drives.
[07:27] <kalenedrael> Yes.
[07:27] <Snake__> That would be nifty since im a artiest!
[07:27] <kalenedrael> It kicks ass for playing certain games, too.
[07:28] <Snake__> I got a graphics pad now, but man a tablet would rock
[07:28] <kalenedrael> A friend of mine owns at UT on his tablet.
[07:28] <Snake__> I would think that would be hard..
[07:29] <kalenedrael> Not really, set it in relative mode...
[07:29] <Snake__> Does he like click where to shoot or what?
[07:29] <kalenedrael> I dunno exactly what the controls are but the stylus does come in handy for something.
[07:29] <kalenedrael> He probably just clicks to shoot, or hits spacebar.
[07:30] <kalenedrael> It's also good for RTS games.
[07:30] <Kalidarn> still buggered
[07:30] <kalenedrael> Damn
[07:30] <Snake__> RTS would be great with a tablet
[07:30] <kalenedrael> Yes.
[07:30] <Kalidarn> lol perhaps
[07:30] <Kalidarn> okay whats the unix command to create a new user
[07:30] <kalenedrael> Kalidarn, hm, you say your menu disappeared?
[07:30] <Kalidarn> well not dissapeard
[07:30] <Kalidarn> but all the programs in it
[07:31] <kalenedrael> Oh.
[07:31] <Kalidarn> under "All Applications"
[07:31] <Kalidarn> and whats worse
[07:31] <Kalidarn> i cant get into the control panel either
[07:31] <kalenedrael> Have you tried just removing the menu from the dock and re-adding it?
[07:31] <Kalidarn> yes
[07:31] <kalenedrael> You can type kcontrol at a prompt to open the control center.
[07:31] <Kalidarn> that didn't work
[07:31] <Snake__> Kalidarn, for future refrence, kcontrol
[07:31] <Kalidarn> yes i did
[07:31] <Kalidarn> and guess whats in the kcontrol
[07:31] <kalenedrael> Ok.
[07:31] <Kalidarn> nothing
[07:31] <Kalidarn> except the front page
[07:31] <kalenedrael> Nothing? O.o
[07:31] <Kalidarn> telling me i have an i686 machine and its name etc
[07:32] <Kalidarn> and it has "View" up the top
[07:32] <Kalidarn> and "No text!"
[07:32] <kalenedrael> Looks like you accidentally removed some critical system-wide KDE directory, not just your settings...
[07:32] <Kalidarn> lol no that should not have happened.
[07:32] <kalenedrael> No, it shouldn't/
[07:32] <Kalidarn> considering this happend after all i did was change the application order of .avi files
[07:32] <Kalidarn> to run in mplayer
[07:32] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:32] <kalenedrael> Wow, odd.
[07:32] <Kalidarn> thats when all this serious stuff happened.
[07:32] <Kalidarn> thats all i did when i turned my machine on
[07:33] <Kalidarn> cos i was going to watch a movie before going out lol
[07:33] <kalenedrael> Type 'kmenuedit' at a prompt and see what it says in the menu editor...
[07:33] <Kalidarn> dcecchin@SOLACE:~$ kmenuedit
[07:33] <Kalidarn> kmenuedit: WARNING: Could not read /home/dcecchin/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
[07:34] <Snake__> Woo m*a*s*h is on!
[07:34] <kalenedrael> Yeah, I got that too, don't worry about it.
[07:34] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:34] <Kalidarn> its all grey
[07:34] <Kalidarn> nothing
[07:34] <kalenedrael> Did it at least pop open a window?
[07:34] <kalenedrael> Nothing?!
[07:34] <Kalidarn> and its got "File" "Edit" and "No text!" at the top
[07:34] <Kalidarn> yeah
[07:34] <Kalidarn> with "hide toolbar" in No Text!
[07:34] <kalenedrael> Odd.
[07:34] <Kalidarn> that wories me
[07:34] <Kalidarn> why it says that
[07:34] <Snake__> lol
[07:35] <Kalidarn> its like thats where the Help thing is supposed to be
[07:35] <Snake__> (Kalidan how do you change what programs open what files?)
[07:35] <Kalidarn> right click on the file
[07:35] <Kalidarn> like i would in windows
[07:35] <Kalidarn> click properties
[07:35] <Snake__> oh ok
[07:35] <Snake__> I was jw for my MP3s :)
[07:35] <Kalidarn> and it had  "change file preference order' or something
[07:36] <Kalidarn> pretty self explanitory i found, and i didn't expect it to do this.
[07:36] <Kalidarn> now my brother is going "see linux sucks balls"
[07:36] <Kalidarn> which annoys me even more
[07:36] <Kalidarn> as i am having a problem trying to fix it lol
[07:36] <Snake__> Tell him it does if you dont know what your doing
[07:36] <Kalidarn> heh
[07:36] <Snake__> Then laugh at him when his windows crashes
[07:36] <Kalidarn> even if you do it can
[07:36] <Kalidarn> lol i have progs in Linux crash too ;P
[07:37] <Snake__> Exactly.. Programs.
[07:37] <Kalidarn> though atleast they quit instantly.
[07:37] <Snake__> Not linux, but programs :)
[07:37] <kalenedrael> Yeah, programs do crash.
[07:37] <Kalidarn> but that could be upto the developer
[07:37] <Snake__> Windows, the whole OS crashes, you get smacked with a blue screen and a restart
[07:37] <kalenedrael> Windows usually just dies when programs crash, Linux doesn't :P
[07:37] <Snake__> :-P
[07:37] <Kalidarn> ive had explorer crash numerous times though
[07:37] <Kalidarn> that really gets up my arse when im working on something
[07:38] <Kalidarn> and when it wont like crash already and let me restart it
[07:38] <Snake__> lol
[07:38] <kalenedrael> I've made Linux crash quite a few times, actually, but only due to using shitty/dodgy device drivers.
[07:38] <Kalidarn> but atleast all the things in my start menu dont disspear and i can still access my control panel :D
[07:38] <Kalidarn> heh
[07:38] <Snake__> lol, i've had my whole start menu disappear
[07:38] <Kalidarn> oh okay
[07:38] <Snake__> that was a nightmare
[07:38] <kalenedrael> The problem is that those have access to kernel memory space (being kernel modules) and thus fuck things up a lot when they go :P
[07:38] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:39] <Kalidarn> perhaps i can apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:39] <Kalidarn> and reinstall KDE from command line
[07:39] <Kalidarn> would that fix it?
[07:39] <Kalidarn> not if its user related i bet
[07:39] <Snake__> Did you try to make a new user?
[07:39] <Kalidarn> as in related to 'dcecchin'
[07:39] <Kalidarn> no i havnt yet
[07:39] <Kalidarn> not sure how to from konsole
[07:39] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:39] <Snake__> Me neither...
[07:39] <Snake__> Hold on
[07:39] <kalenedrael> When I first started using Linux, Windows 98 was fucked up and the mouse didn't work. I backed up all my stuff to some CDs with no mouse and deleted everything.
[07:40] <kalenedrael> Have you tried making a new user?
[07:40] <Kalidarn> yeah i started using it after XP
[07:40] <nalioth> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[07:40] <robotgeek> kalenedrael: hmm, language :) (even if it's true)
[07:40] <Kalidarn> when i found out how loated vista would be
[07:40] <kalenedrael> k
[07:40] <Kalidarn> *bloated
[07:40] <kalenedrael> Ok, you should try making a new user.
[07:40] <Snake__> vistas goign to be decent...if they took DRM out
[07:41] <Kalidarn> DRM = good
[07:41] <Kalidarn> well.
[07:41] <Kalidarn> if you look at it in one way
[07:41] <Kalidarn> not from our way
[07:41] <Kalidarn> but from MS's way
[07:41] <Kalidarn> they were made a deal
[07:41] <kalenedrael> mkdir /home/foo; groupadd foo; useradd -s /bin/bash -g foo foo
[07:41] <Kalidarn> they had to do it
[07:41] <Kalidarn> if they wanted the codec from the HDDVD board
[07:41] <Snake__> .....kalidarn go fix your thing, and then I want to talk to you about DRM, im intrested in knowing why you think its good
[07:41] <Snake__> ok?
[07:41] <kalenedrael> They could have used.... something else :P
[07:42] <Kalidarn> basically there was the decoding issue, they were worried about the MPAA wouldn't give pernission to MS to read HDDVDs unless they "showed some protection"
[07:42] <Kalidarn> now they did that by putting DRM in there which was good, because "its already broken" lol
[07:42] <Kalidarn> microsoft has NOTHING to gain out of stopping people pirating movies
[07:42] <kalenedrael> Like Blu-ray (though Sony is obviously not known for their freedom to copy)
[07:42] <Kalidarn> infact they have something to gain from it, ie ppl buying computers to run media centre
[07:42] <Kalidarn> etc
[07:43] <Snake__> Okay but now I can't watch HD TV without a "Compliant moniter" and their freaking detectiong sucks
[07:43] <kalenedrael> Detection?
[07:43] <Kalidarn> but thats my only reason for thinking its good
[07:43] <Kalidarn> lol
[07:43] <Kalidarn> its crap, id rather have no protection
[07:43] <kalenedrael> You can't watch HDTV without a 'compliant monitor'?
[07:43] <robotgeek> hmm, i know there are only 3 ppl here, but isn't there a #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:43] <Snake__> I got the vista beta, and lo and behold, my year old HD 20" Dell moniter is not "Compliant"
[07:43] <kalenedrael> What the hell?
[07:43] <Kalidarn> but....... unfortunately id rather have protection and be able to crack it and watch dvds rather than never be able to watch them
[07:43] <Snake__> So, no HD for me.
[07:43] <Kalidarn> kalenedrael: unless its cracked
[07:43] <kalenedrael> Wow....
[07:44] <Kalidarn> im guessing there will be a loophole
[07:44] <kalenedrael> That's incredibly stupid.
[07:44] <Kalidarn> what about all the media centre laptops
[07:44] <Kalidarn> u cant just rip a laptop screen off
[07:44] <Snake__> It would be easier to set up a dvd driver than crack a secruity system
[07:44] <Kalidarn> there might be a dongle or something u can buy
[07:44] <Kalidarn> and u know how easy theyre broken
[07:45] <Kalidarn> but anyway im going to try and create a new user account
[07:45] <Kalidarn> how do i do that from console?
[07:45] <kalenedrael> What, do they have some encryption on the video thing?  ;P
[07:54] <treakath> hey
[07:55] <treakath> hey all
[07:55] <robotgeek> hey treakath
[07:56] <treakath> hey
[07:56] <treakath> how are you?
[07:56] <robotgeek> treakath: good, how are you?
[07:56] <treakath> good rob
[07:57] <Kalidarn> hmm
[07:57] <Kalidarn> didn't work
[07:57] <Kalidarn> i got "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your Installation"
[07:58] <Kalidarn> in a tiny little crappy non-looking kde themed ox
[07:58] <Kalidarn> *box
[07:58] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: weird
[07:58] <treakath> rob what are you doing??
[07:59] <robotgeek> treakath: i usually take offtopic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:59] <Kalidarn> looks like im forced to re-install
[07:59] <Snake__> Kalidarn: perhaps do that apt-get install --reinstall thin
[07:59] <Snake__> g
[07:59] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: yes, try that
[07:59] <Kalidarn> okay
[08:00] <Kalidarn> esher: Couldn't find package thin
[08:00] <Kalidarn> lol
[08:00] <Kalidarn> esher: Couldn't find package thin
[08:00] <Kalidarn> ooh odd
[08:00] <Kalidarn> it wont copy E:
[08:00] <Kalidarn> hehe
[08:00] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: he meant , "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop" :)
[08:00] <Kalidarn> lol thats what i thought
[08:02] <Kalidarn> restarting
[08:03] <Snake__> lol
[08:04] <treakath> oh um ok
[08:04] <treakath> dont no what that is
[08:05] <robotgeek> treakath: /j #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:07] <treakath> kk
[08:07] <treakath> rob
[08:12] <Kalidarn> nope sorry that didn't work
[08:13] <Kalidarn> okay time for re-install
[08:13] <Kalidarn> nothing else to try is there.
[08:13] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: ugly. restart?
[08:14] <Kalidarn> yeah
[08:14] <Kalidarn> it doesn't work anymore than it did before
[08:14] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: uggh, maybe you should file a bug?
[08:14] <Kalidarn> i might
[08:14] <Kalidarn> when i have somewhere else to test it for sure
[08:14] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: then, maybe i can try to test it out
[08:14] <Kalidarn> i was a bit sleepy when it happened
[08:15] <Kalidarn> yeah that would be good
[08:15] <robotgeek> Kalidarn: i have a spare install for all that
[08:15] <Kalidarn> yeah
[08:15] <Kalidarn> ill walk you through what i did
[08:17] <treakath> im bored
[08:23] <jbueler> can anyone help with install problem? " checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[08:23] <robotgeek> jbueler: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:24] <jbueler> cool, am i just missing some basic components?
[08:24] <robotgeek> jbueler: yes, like a compiler :)
[08:24] <robotgeek> jbueler: what are you trying to build?
[08:25] <jbueler> trying to install K9copy
[08:25] <robotgeek> jbueler: isn't there a version in the repos?
[08:26] <jbueler> couldnt get it to work
[08:26] <robotgeek> jbueler: are u on breezy?
[08:26] <jbueler> yeah
[08:27] <robotgeek> jbueler: can you link me to where you are trying to get it from, i need to know the dependencies
[08:29] <jbueler> im not real sure... this is actually my bro's computer, im just trying to help out.. I think ive almost got it though
[08:30] <jbueler> he is missing some dependent files
[08:31] <robotgeek> jbueler: mostly -dev files, i think
[08:31] <robotgeek> and there is no version in the repos
[08:32] <jbueler> yeah, i think he tried to add one to it...
[08:32] <jbueler> and yeah, i just went through this setup on my setup.. and i needed alot of dev files
[08:35] <Mez> anyone here ?
[08:36] <robotgeek> hey Mez
[08:36] <Mez> hmm
[08:36] <jbueler> robotgeek: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[08:36] <jbueler> "
[08:36] <Mez> need a lil help
[08:36] <robotgeek> !xincludes
[08:36] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[08:36] <Mez> I dont seem to be able to play these movies
[08:36] <Mez> lol
[08:36] <robotgeek> Mez: sure
[08:36] <Mez> dunno what format they're in though
[08:36] <jbueler> sweet, i love that thing
[08:36] <robotgeek> Mez: do you have "the codecs" installed?
[08:37] <Mez> w32codecs is already the newest version.
[08:37] <robotgeek> Mez: = Mez from -nun?
[08:37] <Mez> yes
[08:37] <robotgeek> hmm, okay.
[08:37] <Mez> you know, I could jsut go and watch them on the tv downstairs :D
[08:38] <robotgeek> Mez: what player are you using? kaffeine + xine / vlc?
[08:38] <Mez> ah
[08:38] <Mez> kaffeine + erm
[08:38] <Mez> gstreamer :D
[08:38] <robotgeek> Mez: there you go
[08:38] <robotgeek> Mez: apt-get install kaffeine-xine
[08:39] <Mez> though it's also over a samba share :D
[08:39] <Mez> whee
[08:40] <robotgeek> Mez: i have never installed the codecs, cause i'm on ppc. oh, how i envy you
[08:40] <Mez> :D
[08:40] <Mez> lol
[08:41] <robotgeek> Mez: enjoy
[08:41] <neoncode> How do I make a spesal file like "/mnt/sda/"
[08:41] <robotgeek> neoncode: mkdir
[08:41] <robotgeek> neoncode: and then you mount it there
[08:41] <kkathman> sudo mkdir :)
[08:42] <jbueler> "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[08:42] <neoncode> robotgeek: mount says it needs to be a "speical file"
[08:42] <kkathman> jbueler: look for the libqt libraries
[08:42] <robotgeek> jbueler: apt-get install libqt3-dev i guess
[08:43] <robotgeek> neoncode: what and how are you trying to mount?
[08:43] <kkathman> jbueler: do an apt-cache search qt  and look for the libqt libraries
[08:43] <robotgeek> !info libqt3-dev
[08:43] <neoncode> i'm trying to mount an external HD to /mnt/sda/ I used mkdir to make /mnt/sda/ But mount says it needs to be a speacal file
[08:44] <kkathman> robotgeek: you think he'll need the dev?
[08:44] <robotgeek> kkathman: he's compiling something
[08:44] <robotgeek> jbueler: sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[08:45] <robotgeek> jbueler: that should be enuf for pretty much anything :)
[08:45] <neoncode> no-one wanna help me?
[08:46] <robotgeek> neoncode: hmm, doesn't it automagically mount?
[08:46] <jbueler> once again... " checking for KDE... configure: error:
[08:46] <jbueler> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[08:46] <jbueler> So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[08:46] <neoncode> robotgeek: in recovery mode as root here. trying to fix my xorg.conf
[08:47] <neoncode> Like I say, "/mnt/sda" must be a special file...
[08:47] <neoncode> Apparently
[08:47] <robotgeek> neoncode: the rescue cd should mount and give you a chroot
[08:47] <robotgeek> neoncode: maybe specifying the file system type would help
[08:47] <neoncode> robotgeek: I didn't know there was a rescue CD. Oh well. It's not *that* important...
[08:48] <jbueler> "checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[08:48] <robotgeek> jbueler: one more sec,
[08:48] <jbueler> its cool, i was hopin the robot thing would answer..lol
[08:48] <robotgeek> jbueler: qt3-apps-dev
[08:49] <robotgeek> jbueler: that's pretty much all the -dev packages in kde
[08:49] <neoncode> Well, i'm going to go and fillde with fglrxconfig somemore. Thanks for your help robotgeek :)
[08:49] <ejofee> which one's faster as a calculator: awk, or bc?
[08:49] <robotgeek> ejofee: python
[08:49] <robotgeek> hahaha
[08:50] <robotgeek> ejofee: this is the first time i've heard of bc, i'll chk it out
[08:50] <ejofee> robotgeek: you actually mean "python -c 'print <operation>'" is faster?!? (in bash)
[08:50] <ejofee> robotgeek :)
[08:50] <robotgeek> ejofee: hmm, bc claims to be a calculator :)
[08:51] <jbueler> robotgeek: i think there might be one more.. cause it still says that error...
[08:51] <robotgeek> jbueler: whoa
[08:52] <ejofee> robotgeek: what did you think bc was for?
[08:52] <robotgeek> jbueler: apt-cache search qt3 | grep dev
[08:52] <robotgeek> ejofee: i did not know
[08:52] <robotgeek> ejofee: i generally end up using python most of the time
[08:52] <robotgeek> but now, i'll use bc
[08:54] <ejofee> robotgeek: python is not so fast... i have hundreds of different calculations within a for/while loop and i can't call python like that
[08:54] <robotgeek> ejofee: hmm, i only do that for simple calc.
[08:55] <ejofee> robotgeek: right. thank you.
[09:17] <manveru> anybody knows a bit about licencing here?
[09:18] <robotgeek> manveru: hmm, not too much, but a bit
[09:22] <robotgeek> hmm _manveru what's up
[09:22] <_manveru> :|
[09:22] <robotgeek> _manveru: hmm, if i may ask where are you from?
[09:23] <_manveru> i'm from austria :)
[09:24] <_manveru> the question is solved btw
[09:25] <robotgeek> _manveru: oh okay
[09:37] <treakath> hi
[09:38] <treakath> how are u
[09:38] <robotgeek> hey treakath
[09:39] <treakath> hi how are u
[09:40] <treakath> u  there
[09:40] <robotgeek> treakath: :)
[09:40] <treakath> hi brad
[09:44] <treakath> hi brad
[09:44] <treakath> im treakaths sister
[09:45] <treakath> hi snake
[09:46] <treakath> hi
[09:47] <treakath> fuck u then
[09:49] <robotgeek> treakath: none of that, please
[09:49] <treakath> hi
[09:49] <treakath> well talk to me then
[09:49] <robotgeek> treakath: join #ubuntu-offtopic then
[09:50] <treakath> brad wont talk to me
[09:50] <ejofee> if a variable is "12.5", how can i tell bash i want to consider it numerical (integer, all right)
[09:50] <treakath> i did
[09:50] <robotgeek> treakath: this is a support channel, offtopic talk is not welcome here
[09:50] <robotgeek> ejofee: i was wondering the same thing, maybe the bash scripting guide would help?
[09:50] <robotgeek> ejofee: i wanted to add and subtract dates
[09:50] <treakath> why are u here then
[09:51] <robotgeek> treakath: again, this is a support channel
[09:51] <manveru> ejofee: what do you need that for?
[09:51] <manveru> ejofee: this would be a Float
[09:52] <manveru> ejofee: and as i only know ruby, i cannot help you on that :(
[09:52] <ejofee> treakath: is treakath your brother?!
[09:52] <demon71> can anyone help with a adept problem? When i go to install kplayer, it says there is a "break"
[09:52] <robotgeek> demon71: hmm, are you on breezy
[09:53] <demon71> yes
[09:53] <ejofee> manveru: i don't need it to be a float. it being sorta int($var) is just ok for me.
[09:53] <demon71> robotgeek: I talked to you ealier under Jbueler... That was my bro's account...
[09:53] <robotgeek> demon71: oh okay
[09:54] <robotgeek> ejofee: www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[09:54] <ejofee> robotgeek: thank you!
[09:54] <robotgeek> demon71: can we go command line (i am new to kubuntu as such)
[09:55] <demon71> k... so then i would just type, apt-get install kplayer?
[09:55] <robotgeek> demon71: btw, the package we needed for your brother was kde-devel
[09:55] <robotgeek> demon71: yes, sudo
[09:56] <demon71> yeah.. i got that... it configured fine but had an error when installing.. i gave up for the night.. try again with his stuff later
[09:59] <jorge> hi
[10:00] <robotgeek> hey jorge
[10:00] <jorge> i installed kubuntu 5.10 on 2different laptops and sound doesnt work
[10:00] <jorge> alsa drivers doesnt work.. ive been searching in internet but i found anything useful
[10:01] <jorge> any suggestions?
[10:01] <robotgeek> jorge: hmm, i'm kinda clueless about sound. maybe, i can help you with wireless :)
[10:01] <robotgeek> jorge: just ask around here/#ubuntu even
[10:03] <jorge> robot sucks
[10:03] <robotgeek> jorge: hmm, me? what did i do
[10:03] <callie> thats not going to get you a lot of help jorge
[10:04] <demon71> no doubt...
[10:05] <callie> just saying "my audio doesnt work! fix it" isnt really enough information to form a reply really either
[10:05] <callie> for all we know you could just be deaf
[10:06] <callie> or stupid
[10:06] <robotgeek> callie: now, don't do that
[10:06] <robotgeek> jorge: could you paste the output of lspci to the pastebin
[10:06] <demon71> its done and over with...
[10:06] <callie> well....
[10:06] <robotgeek> demon71: could you install it from the cli?
[10:07] <demon71> "kplayer: Depends: libidn11 (>= 0.5.18) but 0.5.13-1.0 is to be installed
[10:07] <demon71>            Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.5) but 3:3.3.4-8ubuntu5 is to be installed
[10:07] <demon71>            Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[10:07] <demon71>            Depends: libxrender1 (> 1:0.9.0-1) but 1:0.9.0-1 is to be installed
[10:07] <demon71>            Depends: mplayer
[10:07] <demon71> E: Broken packages"
[10:07] <demon71> i tried installing all of those and mine are all up to date
[10:07] <robotgeek> demon71: don't paste here, do you have any backports enabled?
[10:08] <demon71> sorry
[10:08] <demon71> i dont know
[10:08] <callie> look at your /etc.apt/sources.list demon71
[10:08] <robotgeek> demon71: then you probably dont
[10:08] <callie> sorry /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <demon71> prolly not
[10:09] <demon71> callie: okay, im looking
[10:09] <callie> if you see any references to backports you can just hash them out
[10:10] <neoncode> A vanilla install of kubuntu 5.10 should upgrade to KDE 3.5 perfectly right?
[10:10] <callie> yup
[10:10] <callie> mine did
[10:12] <demon71> i dont see any backports
[10:12] <demon71> whats that mean exactly
[10:12] <callie> cool
[10:12] <callie> you use adept?
[10:12] <demon71> yes
[10:13] <callie> ok well adept uses that list to determin where it gets its updates from
[10:13] <neoncode> callie: Good. because last time I upgraded to KDE 3.5 it kinna messed up my install. But KDE was pretty craped up at that point anyway
[10:13] <robotgeek> demon71: mplayers dependencies are broken
[10:13] <robotgeek> or kplayer, rather
[10:13] <callie> neoncode: i know other people who had problems and im not the most experiences linux user and it went as smoothly as possible
[10:13] <demon71> yeah, i knew that but is a backport a non-trusted one? or is that what all of those are called?
[10:14] <treakath> hey i need help please someone???
[10:14] <robotgeek> demon71: they are official, but it's always wise to install whatever you need, and comment it out
[10:14] <robotgeek> treakath: help with what?
[10:14] <callie> backports is a repositary for older versions of files i think
[10:14] <demon71> robotgeek: so i should probably go to the website and see what i need...
[10:14] <demon71> callie: gotcha.. thanks
[10:15] <treakath> yahoo isint working on konkora
[10:15] <robotgeek> callie: no, actually programs in dapper are backported to breezy
[10:15] <treakath> the site
[10:15] <callie> well same dif robotgeek
[10:15] <robotgeek> callie: old versions, i wouldn't call them old version :)
[10:15] <jorge> robotgeek arent you an irc bot?
[10:15] <callie> ok, not the newest then :P
[10:15] <robotgeek> jorge: no, i am human
[10:16] <jorge> ohh.. the sorry for the sucks thing b4
[10:16] <robotgeek> jorge: np
[10:16] <jorge> since you replied so fast i thought i was talking to a bot
[10:17] <robotgeek> jorge: heh
[10:17] <treakath> its working now was going proply
[10:17] <robotgeek> treakath: do you mean konqueror?
[10:18] <treakath> yea my bad
[10:18] <robotgeek> jorge: so did you paste the output to pastebin?
[10:18] <robotgeek> treakath: is it you or your sister?
[10:18] <jorge> yeah... may i paste it here?
[10:18] <treakath> me
[10:18] <jorge> 000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[10:18] <jorge> there is a modem too ....
[10:19] <jorge> 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
[10:19] <robotgeek> jorge: hmm, i;ve seen this before
[10:19] <taojah> hello
[10:19] <robotgeek> treakath: i had to kick you sister out
[10:19] <treakath> k
[10:19] <jorge> yeah... i saw posts in kubuntuforums, but i found no solution so far
[10:19] <taojah> when i type cd ~/Desktop in console it say no file or directory  why is that
[10:20] <robotgeek> taojah: can you type cd ~/D<then press tab>
[10:21] <taojah> ok
[10:21] <taojah> it changes it too
[10:21] <robotgeek> taojah: it should tab complete to Desktop, other wise mkdir ~/Desktop
[10:21] <taojah> yeh it goes to ~/Desktop$
[10:22] <robotgeek> taojah: hmm, cool
[10:22] <taojah> and when i type cd /
[10:22] <taojah> nothing happens
[10:22] <robotgeek> taojah: cd / will take you to your root directory
[10:22] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell taojah about cli
[10:22] <taojah> wait
[10:23] <taojah> i have those links
[10:23] <taojah> hehehe
[10:23] <taojah> thats what im reading
[10:23] <robotgeek> taojah: oh okay, sorry
[10:23] <taojah> im starting to read them now
[10:23] <taojah> just saved them last night
[10:23] <taojah> thanks though :)
[10:23] <robotgeek> taojah: hmm, yes. go thru them.
[10:24] <taojah> but when i type cd or cd /
[10:24] <taojah> it doesnt take me anywhere
[10:24] <taojah> it just goes to the next line
[10:25] <robotgeek> taojah: then do "ls"
[10:25] <robotgeek> taojah: you care in your root if you do cd /. cd will bring you to you home or ~
[10:26] <taojah> say that again
[10:26] <taojah> i dont understand
[10:26] <taojah> i have to type sudo first for cd ?
[10:27] <robotgeek> taojah: let me bring you a link :)
[10:27] <taojah> ok thank you
[10:27] <taojah> :)
[10:28] <treakath> is everyone having a good day or night?
[10:30] <taojah> im having a good morning
[10:30] <taojah> how are you treakat
[10:31] <robotgeek> taojah: sorry, i was unable to find that link which i was looking for
[10:31] <robotgeek> taojah: so, i'll try to explain as best as i can
[10:32] <taojah> ok thanks
[10:32] <taojah> its ok if you just tell me that normal for nothing to happen if i just type cd or cd /
[10:32] <treakath> good
[10:32] <taojah> i can leanr as i read
[10:32] <taojah> i just thought something was wrong
[10:33] <robotgeek> taojah: it's important for you to understand how files are organised
[10:33] <taojah> yes thats true :)
[10:33] <robotgeek> taojah: if you are using Konqueror, open it up
[10:34] <taojah> ok
[10:34] <taojah> done
[10:34] <taojah> can i use mozilla
[10:34] <taojah> i prefer it :)
[10:34] <robotgeek> taojah: hmm, cause konqueor is also a file browser :)
[10:34] <taojah> ahhh
[10:34] <taojah> ok np
[10:35] <taojah> yes ok konqueror
[10:36] <jorge> robotgeek: any suggestion about my sound problem? could it be that the system is confusing the modem with the sound card?
[10:36] <robotgeek> jorge: to be honest, i have no clue
[10:36] <jorge> it worked on kubuntu 5.04
[10:37] <jorge> ohh, thanks anyway... i know its happening to more people
[10:37] <robotgeek> jorge: hmm, now that's interesting
[10:39] <robotgeek> jorge: lsmod output to pastebin?
[10:39] <robotgeek> taojah: sorry. now type / in the address bar and hit enter
[10:40] <jorge> what pastebin?
[10:40] <jorge> i have the output here
[10:40] <robotgeek> jorge: don't paste here
[10:40] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[10:40] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:41] <jorge> i see
[10:49] <robotgeek> Sneaky_Bastard: can you change your nick to something not offensive
[10:49] <taojah> hello robotge i was disconnected
[10:49] <robotgeek> taojah: no problem
[10:50] <taojah> hrrm your nick shows up as robotge on my irssi
[10:50] <taojah> wierd
[10:50] <jorge> robot: i pasted in that site
[10:50] <robotgeek> taojah: tab complete, don't you just love it?
[10:50] <robotgeek> jorge: link?
[10:50] <callie> tab complete is sexy
[10:51] <jorge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5991
[10:51] <taojah> what does tab complete mean
[10:51] <robotgeek> taojah: type robo and then press the tab key
[10:51] <callie> taojah: type the first few letters of a name and press tab
[10:51] <callie> lol
[10:52] <taojah> robo
[10:52] <taojah> hmm
[10:52] <callie> damn that Robdor
[10:52] <callie> he's making me type an extra letter!
[10:52] <robotgeek> callie: you probably woke him up,
[10:52] <callie> ehehe
[10:52] <hugelmopf> btw... for the more advanced: if you edit /etc/bash.bashrc and uncomment the last three lines, there are a lot more tab-completion options.
[10:52] <robotgeek> jorge: i see the modules loaded
[10:53] <hugelmopf> like "modprobe <tab>"
[10:53] <robotgeek> hugelmopf: also the .inputrc settings :)
[10:53] <robotgeek> to cycle thru history
[10:53] <taojah> hrrmm
[10:53] <taojah> didnt do anything
[10:53] <callie> hugelmopf: thanks i didnt know that
[10:53] <robotgeek> taojah: hmm, really?
[10:53] <hugelmopf> taojah: you have to start a new shell
[10:54] <robotgeek> jorge: your problem seems very similiar to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-486.html
[10:54] <taojah> yeh  maybe its because im on bnc and have another network added, so the network prefix(two letters and a ~) is taking up the space ?
[10:54] <hugelmopf> robotgeek: what do you mean? can you not go through history by up/down?
[10:54] <callie> neoncode: eww
[10:55] <neoncode> callie: D=
[10:55] <taojah> robot do you want to/have time to explain more about what you were telling me about cd ...cd /
[10:55] <robotgeek> hugelmopf: typing su , then uparrow for sudo modprobe (when you exectued it 10 minutes ago) ?
[10:55] <robotgeek> hugelmopf: www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/papers/bash_tips/
[10:56] <robotgeek> lots more there
[10:57] <knubbe> is there a gui for creating ssh-tunnels?
[10:58] <jorge> robotgeek: it tells me to Use the alsa-utils initscript instead when i do a "sudo /etc/init.d/restart
[10:58] <robotgeek> jorge: yes, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[11:00] <callie> one thing i have noticed is that torrnents and file sharing under linux seems much slower under linux when compared with windows. could it port related?
[11:00] <callie> *torrents
[11:00] <robotgeek> callie: could be, maybe you havent port forwarded correctly?
[11:01] <jorge> robotgeek: i think im gonna disable the modem and unused stuff in the bios
[11:01] <callie> robotgeek: i've never had to port forward under winblows
[11:01] <robotgeek> jorge: good deal, i'm kind out of my zone here
[11:01] <callie> robotgeek: not for file sharing anyway
[11:02] <jorge> thanks !
[11:02] <robotgeek> callie: hmm, are you still using azureus
[11:02] <callie> robotgeek: im giving it a go
[11:02] <robotgeek> callie: cool, if you were using that before
[11:03] <robotgeek> callie: a good reference point is http://www.portforward.com/
[11:03] <PerraS> my installation of kubuntu hangs on my laptop when it tries to find my CD-rom
[11:03] <robotgeek> PerraS: so, basically it doesn't boot?
[11:03] <callie> robotgeek: this is the first time i've used it, i've set up port forwarding before for things like ssh so im pretty familiar with the process
[11:04] <robotgeek> callie: oh okay, i love that website. it's very user-friendly :)
[11:04] <PerraS> robotgeek: it does. now after 10min of searching it continues. but now i only see a blue screen
[11:04] <robotgeek> PerraS: hmm, maybe ask in #ubuntu also?
[11:04] <PerraS> okey
[11:05] <_paul> hi,all
[11:05] <robotgeek> hey _paul
[11:05] <taojah> robot do you want to/have time to explain more about what you were telling me about cd ...cd /
[11:05] <callie> robotgeek: thats the site i originally used i think, very simple and clear inoformation there as i remember
[11:05] <PerraS> a blue screen with a with border at bottom where i can write
[11:05] <_paul> who can tell me how to install a software...i am newbie...
[11:05] <callie> _paul: load adept
[11:06] <robotgeek> _paul: System -> Adept
[11:06] <_paul> yes, but
[11:06] <_paul> i download skype ,and then i cannt find skype in my adept
[11:06] <callie> _paul: can you see the skype file?
[11:06] <robotgeek> _paul: how did you get skype? from where?
[11:07] <_paul> from www.skype.com
[11:07] <robotgeek> _paul: did you finish installing?
[11:07] <_paul> no
[11:07] <_paul> i just donnt know how to make it
[11:07] <robotgeek> _paul: okay, here's a nice link
[11:07] <robotgeek> !skype
[11:07] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:08] <_paul> ok
[11:09] <_paul> i will see it, thanks, when i have questions i will come back
[11:09] <robotgeek> _paul: sure
[11:10] <robotgeek> _paul: if no one is here, you can ask in #ubuntu also
[11:10] <neoncode> How do you reset to the KDE defults?
[11:10] <_paul> ok
[11:10] <neoncode> and not the kubuntu ones?
[11:10] <taojah> is skype a chat program ?
[11:10] <robotgeek> neoncode: hmm, interesting. may not be possible
[11:10] <callie> robotgeek: i cant remember where you can set default programs in kde, mail client, browser etc, do you know?
[11:10] <robotgeek> taojah: skype is a voice chat/phone program
[11:11] <taojah> oh ok
[11:11] <neoncode> robotgeek: It is, when I screwed up my pervious upgrade to kde 3.5 it reset them
[11:11] <robotgeek> callie: System Settings -> Kde COmpoenents
[11:11] <callie> thanks dewd
[11:12] <robotgeek> np
[11:12] <neoncode> I know, i'll uninstall "kubuntu-default-settings"
[11:12] <robotgeek> callie: maybe not,
[11:12] <taojah> robotgeek: i dont understand the first paragraph of this 'Files and Directory commands'  .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[11:12] <callie> thats what im thinking too robotgeek ;)
[11:12] <callie> i think its moved since 3.4 robotgeek
[11:13] <taojah> its the cd cd / part that isnt working for me, or i dont understand
[11:14] <robotgeek> taojah: / means root, it containts all the files in your system in various folders, like /bin , /etc for config etc etc.
[11:14] <robotgeek> taojah: your home directory is also /home/taojah
[11:15] <robotgeek> taojah: do you see how your home directory comes under root?
[11:16] <neoncode> Well that was a bad idea...
[11:16] <taojah> what is
[11:16] <taojah> bad idea?
[11:16] <robotgeek> callie: alt + f2 , kcontrol + Kde Components
[11:17] <robotgeek> i knew i had seen it somewhere
[11:17] <neoncode> I removed "kubuntu-default-settings" Because I wanted the KDE defults. you see when I upgraded to 3.5 before it screwed up and reset to KDE defaults. and that package was uninstalled
[11:17] <taojah> ok i see robotgeek
[11:18] <neoncode> It must have been a spectacualar screw up that it just happened to mess up the upgrade in just the right place to reset it without screwing KDE. like it just did. but I re installed the package as I just removed it
[11:18] <neoncode> bottom like. don't "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-default-settings"
[11:18] <neoncode> and then logoff
[11:19] <neoncode> *bottom line
[11:19] <robotgeek> neoncode: heh
[11:19] <callie> ty robotgeek
[11:19] <neoncode> But Like I say it must have been a spectatular accident to screw up in just the right way
[11:19] <robotgeek> it does take some talent, neoncode
[11:20] <neoncode> =)
[11:33] <neoncode> !firefox1.5
[11:33] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:34] <_newbie_> Does somebody know how to change the primary language in OpenOffice2? (Tools -> Language dosen't work)
[11:36] <_newbie_> Anyone?
[11:36] <neoncode> Nope. sorry....
[11:36] <robotgeek> _newbie_: try asking in #ubuntu
[11:36] <_newbie_> Ok will do
[11:36] <robotgeek> _newbie_: or the ubuntu channel for your language,
[11:37] <neoncode> or #openoffice.org
[11:44] <callie> not being able to fileshare properly on linux is a real shock
[11:44] <robotgeek> callie: i havent really experienced any problems
[11:45] <callie> its just the comparison between windows and linux thats bugging me
[11:45] <callie> i get less hits and awful speeds under linux
[11:46] <callie> im talking B/s here
[11:46] <robotgeek> hmm, weird callie
[11:47] <callie> yeah, very odd
[11:48] <callie> under winows i get at least 200kB/s
[11:48] <callie> and no port mapping neccasary
[11:48] <paines> hi
[11:48] <robotgeek> hey paines
[11:48] <callie> hi paines
[11:48] <paines> I want to test apt-build for optimizing and installing some packages. but it is failing during build. anyone have experience with apt-build ?
[11:49] <robotgeek> paines: i havent used apt-build, i have used dpkg tools, maybe the errors are similiar
[11:50] <robotgeek> paines: maybe you want to ask in #ubuntu-motu / #ubuntu-motu-school
[11:50] <knubbe> is there a way to check which ports i have open?
[11:50] <paines> robotgeek, good idea. thx
[11:52] <callie> knubbe: take a look at nmap
[11:56] <robotgeek> alrite, nite all
[11:56] <callie> night robotgeek
[11:56] <neoncode> robotgeek: nite
[11:58] <taojah> can someone show me what they see when they type free -m in console please
[11:59] <bimberi> taojah: /j #flood
[12:32] <taojah> hi
[12:33] <ejofee> hi
[12:35] <restagner> hello, i'm new to kubuntu. . .
[12:35] <Kaiser_Away> hi
[12:35] <taojah> hi restagn welcome
[12:35] <restagner> thanks.
[12:35] <taojah> im new too :)
[12:35] <Kaiser_Away> hi mez
[12:35] <Kaiser_Away> hi taojah
[12:35] <Kaiser_Away> hi ejofee
[12:36] <restagner> i've just installed kubuntu and am having trouble getting my flash usb drive to be recognized...anybody have this kind of problem?
[12:36] <Kaiser_Away> hoary or Breezy?
[12:36] <restagner> breezy
[12:36] <Mez> hey Kaiser_Away
[12:37] <restagner> the error is as follows: An error occurred while loading media:/sdb1;
[12:37] <restagner> The file or folder media:/sdb1 does not exist.
[12:38] <restagner> yet, when i look into the /media dir, i notice that the usbdisk directory contains all my data
[01:24] <stisev> ok
[01:24] <stisev> I need help ASAP
[01:24] <stisev> anyone here?
[01:24] <stisev> I've got some rather trivial questions only you guys can answer
[01:24] <stisev> ------------------------
[01:24] <stisev> QUESTION #1 - How the hell do I set root password in the default install of Kubuntu?
[01:24] <Hobbsee> !root
[01:24] <stisev> !root
[01:24] <stisev> ?
[01:24] <Hobbsee> !+root
[01:24] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in ubuntu,  well that's not true. there is just no password set for the root account by default.  You can run things as root by prepending 'sudo ' to the command.  example; sudo apt-get install build-essential    For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:25] <bimberi> :)
[01:25] <Hobbsee> that one :)
[01:25] <stisev> ?
[01:25] <stisev> ok
[01:25] <stisev> I've done sudo
[01:25] <stisev> but it asks me to authenticate
[01:25] <stisev> I enter my normal pass but it doesn't work.
[01:26] <Hobbsee> the password at installation?
[01:26] <stisev> yes
[01:26] <bimberi> stisev: any error message?
[01:26] <stisev> I entered the password of the account I made @ startup
[01:26] <stisev> (stisev)
[01:26] <stisev> bimberi, pardon?
[01:27] <stisev> bimberi, it says authentication failed when running sudo
[01:27] <stisev> understandably so, since I haven't set a root pass
[01:27] <stisev> Where exactly -do- I do this?
[01:27] <bimberi> stisev: sudo doesn't use a root password
[01:27] <stisev> o_O
[01:27] <stisev> ?
[01:27] <stisev> sudo = super user do
[01:27] <stisev> su = super user
[01:27] <stisev> I thought that was root
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> su = substitute user
[01:28] <stisev> Ok, how do I set a root pass?
[01:28] <stisev> Passwd?
[01:28] <stisev> Passwd doesn't work - it changes my normal account's pass
[01:28] <bimberi> sudo gives a user superuser privs, if they're allowed to by the policy set in /etc/sudoers
[01:29] <stisev> oh
[01:29] <stisev> Is there any way to -set- a root paassword?
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, but it might break the gui tools
[01:29] <stisev> o_O
[01:29] <stisev> Uh, why?
[01:29] <stisev> I don't understand why this is so difficult
[01:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> because they are patched to work with sudo
[01:30] <stisev> I've never run into a linux flavor that doesn't ask for a root pass
[01:30] <stisev> granted, I'm not that linux savvy ;0
[01:30] <stisev> ;)
[01:30] <stisev> I need it
[01:30] <bimberi> stisev: it took me a while to get used to it
[01:30] <stisev> for a specific case
[01:30] <stisev> I need to give my good friend root access to this box
[01:31] <stisev> it's free and clear - no vital data on it
[01:31] <stisev> he needs to configure it from abroad
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> give him a user, then add him to sudoers
[01:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't enable ssh root logins
[01:31] <stisev> UG
[01:31] <stisev> UGH
[01:31] <stisev> that was my next question
[01:31] <stisev> Does Kubuntu install SSH by default?
[01:32] <bimberi> stisev: "sudo -i" gets you a root shell - as if you had logged in as root
[01:32] <bimberi> stisev: only a client
[01:32] <bimberi> server can be installed by installing openssh-server
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> stisev: sudo apt-get install ssh will install the server
[01:32] <bimberi> ... yes or ssh (somewhat perversely) :)
[01:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:33] <stisev> wait
[01:33] <stisev> so
[01:33] <stisev> during Kubuntu install
[01:33] <stisev> if i type server
[01:33] <stisev> will that install the SSH files required?
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:33] <bimberi> not openssh-server no
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> it will install a non-gui system
[01:34] <stisev> oh
[01:34] <stisev> OK guys
[01:34] <stisev> the root problem is this
[01:34] <stisev> I'm triple booting this system
[01:34] <stisev> (brand new powerhouse laptop)
[01:34] <stisev> OSX + Kubuntu + XP SP2
[01:34] <stisev> but GRUB is not recognizing OSX
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[01:34] <stisev> LILO is pathetic garbage, so that's not going to work
[01:34] <Hobbsee> does grub do osx anyway?
[01:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> not suprised tbh
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> not afaik
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hence no supprise
[01:35] <stisev> but
[01:35] <stisev> my friend got it working
[01:35] <Hobbsee> you need yaboot for that, dont you?
[01:35] <stisev> ?
[01:35] <stisev> Yaboot?
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: yes, but yaboot is for mac
[01:35] <Hobbsee> where's robotgeek_zzz when you need him...
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> he's on a pc
[01:35] <stisev> that's a type of bootloader?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> right...
[01:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> hence the problem
[01:35] <stisev> I'm on a PC
[01:35] <stisev> OSX has a bootloader
[01:35] <stisev> that works with XP
[01:35] <stisev> but I haven't tested it with linux
[01:36] <stisev> AND another problem is that the OSX bootloader really really sucks bad
[01:36] <stisev> it defualts to OSX every time
[01:36] <stisev> and ahem, I dont want to use OSX as default
[01:37] <stisev> how did my friend get GRUB working with OSX+Slackware+XP
[01:37] <stisev> This is the guy I was planning to give root to
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't know, i don't use xp or osx
[01:37] <stisev> Heh
[01:38] <stisev> OSX is pretty cool
[01:38] <stisev> best irc clients ever
[01:38] <stisev> Ircle ^_^
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's very bling
[01:38] <stisev> It works well though
[01:38] <stisev> for people like my sister
[01:38] <bimberi> give him root access - then get him to set it up for you :)
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> give him sudo
[01:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> (back to the begining of this ...)
[01:39] <bimberi> yes, sudo, that's what i meant :P
[01:39] <Hobbsee> somewhere on google
[01:39] <stisev> stisev: sudo apt-get install ssh will install the server
[01:39] <stisev> "sudo -i" gets you a root shell - as if you had logged in as root
[01:39] <stisev> that?
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: osx isnt out yet *cough* so i doubt it
[01:39] <stisev> I've checked google but no dice
[01:39] <Hobbsee> ok
[01:40] <stisev> I'm more adept @ Windows XP software
[01:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> stisev: `sudo apt-get install ssh && adduser matesaccount && gpasswd -a matesaccount admin`
[01:40] <stisev> not really familiar with linux
[01:41] <stisev> Kamping_Kaiser, that line right there will do everything
[01:41] <stisev> It seems like it installs SSH & gives my friend root
[01:41] <bimberi> yep
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> stisev: in theory yes
[01:41] <stisev> provided I put the name oft the account in "matesaccount"
[01:41] <stisev> what is &&?
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> if i got the gpasswd syntaxs correct
[01:41] <stisev> lol
[01:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> && is 'if this finishes with 0 status (no error), do the next command'
[01:42] <treakath> hey all
[01:42] <bimberi> i think you'll need sudo all along
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> um, yes
[01:42] <DewDude> FINALLY
[01:42] <DewDude> I DID IT!
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:42] <stisev> alright guys
[01:42] <bimberi> "sudo adduser matesaccount admin" also does the last bit
[01:42] <stisev> I'm going to go reinstall Kubuntu
[01:42] <DewDude> it took me all night
[01:42] <DewDude> and 3 reinstalls
[01:42] <stisev> and try to boot it with OSX
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: thanks
[01:42] <DewDude> but it works!
[01:42] <stisev> and see what happens
[01:42] <stisev> thanks again guys
[01:43] <treakath> dose any1 here no any free song site to lisetn too song on the net???
[01:43] <stisev> actually wait
[01:43] <stisev> I wonder what version of Kubuntu I have
[01:43] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks for pointing out gpasswd - not seen it before :)
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> stisev: `cat /etc/issue`, or `uname -a`
[01:43] <stisev> Well
[01:43] <stisev> heh
[01:43] <stisev> Not on Linux
[01:43] <stisev> it's on the cd =p
[01:43] <stisev> What's with this breezy badger lol
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: i seem to be the only person in the world who uses it ;)
[01:44] <stisev> jesus
[01:44] <stisev> WTF? dvd formast
[01:44] <stisev> kubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso   3.06GB?
[01:44] <stisev> O_O
[01:44] <stisev> Why is that so damn big?
[01:44] <stisev> The one i have here is less than 1 CD in size
[01:44] <DewDude> cuz it's got the livecd and install CD
[01:45] <stisev> ah
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> and it's got all of main IIRC
[01:45] <stisev> you can boot directly from the cd
[01:45] <DewDude> yeah
[01:45] <seba> hello!
[01:45] <DewDude> i don't see where you really need the DVD
[01:45] <treakath> bradleys a bad bad boy
[01:45] <Hobbsee> Kamping_Kaiser: gpasswd?
[01:45] <stisev> Can anyone point me to the just the install CD
[01:45] <seba> how can i make adept use a proxy?
[01:45] <DewDude> it's probably nice
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hobbsee: yeh
[01:45] <stisev> wait
[01:45] <stisev> I see it
[01:45] <stisev> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[01:45] <stisev> is that it?
[01:46] <stisev> nevermind
[01:46] <Hobbsee> should be
[01:46] <bimberi> looks good to me
[01:46] <stisev> I need to read directions
[01:46] <DewDude> yeah
[01:46] <stisev> lol
[01:46] <stisev> 1.3MB/sec
[01:46] <stisev> not bad
[01:46] <DewDude> thar she be!
[01:46] <DewDude> heh
[01:46] <DewDude> i got that on the torrent
[01:46] <DewDude> around 1340
[01:46] <bimberi> 3 aussies stare jealously
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> LOL
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> so true
[01:47] <DewDude> so...i got monkeys audio to work in gstreamer
[01:47] <Hobbsee> definetly true!
[01:49] <bimberi> luxury
[01:50] <treakath> rob do you no any good free music site io??
[01:51] <treakath> ayn1 wi do k
[01:51] <treakath> will do
[01:51] <stisev> If anyone finds any ways to get GRUB working with OSX, please let me know
[01:51] <stisev> I know it's possible
[01:51] <stisev> I'm grabbing the latest ISO of kubuntu
[01:57] <stisev> anyways
[01:57] <stisev> ttyl
[01:59] <seba> ok
[01:59] <seba> i mounted my windows partition, works fine
[01:59] <seba> but... i can't play a single movie file
[01:59] <seba> does kubuntu have any codecs?
[01:59] <DewDude> it does
[01:59] <DewDude> !mp3
[02:00] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[02:00] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:00] <DewDude> there
[02:00] <seba> no mpg, no avi, no asf, no divx... nothing works!
[02:00] <seba> oh
[02:00] <DewDude> yeah
[02:00] <DewDude> read the restrictedformats page
[02:00] <seba> oki doki
[02:00] <DewDude> make sure you enable universe repositories
[02:02] <seba> im upgrading to kde 3.5 so i need to wait a bit :P
[02:05] <DewDude> i'm still on 3.4.3
[02:06] <seba> damn
[02:06] <seba> can't i set a proxy in adept?
[02:06] <seba> i would get much faster speeds with that :(
[02:06] <seba> in dapper i could set the proxy in setup, but dapper turned out to be a bit broken hehe
[02:07] <DewDude> you can probably set a proxy in your apt config
[02:07] <DewDude> it'd be whatever your apt config is
[02:07] <seba> uh
[02:08] <seba> where is that config?
[02:12] <seba> oh
[02:12] <seba> found a howto in the wiki
[02:12] <seba> nice wiki :)
[02:12] <seba> ah
[02:12] <seba> no :( not that was i looking for
[02:13] <taojah> anyone here use bitchx ??
[02:15] <maxmanbe> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/472977 ---> Does anyone know how I can solve this problem?
[02:17] <Hobbsee> maxmanbe: (glib-2.0 >= 2.7.1    atk >= 1.0.1    pango >= 1.9.0    cairo >= 0.9.2) were not met. <-- make sure you have the latest versions of those files, using apt-cache search for a different package name, if needed
[02:18] <maxmanbe> Well, I installed all the latest versions of those
[02:18] <maxmanbe> then i did "sudo ldconfig", but it still doesnt detect it or something
[02:19] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[02:20] <maxmanbe> dammit without that gtk i can't get firefox to compile :'(
[02:23] <maxmanbe> could it be that the configure is looking in the wrong place?
[02:23] <Hobbsee> night all...
[02:23] <Hobbsee> why are you trying to compile firefox?
[02:24] <maxmanbe> because the regulad download doesn't work
[02:24] <maxmanbe> regular*
[02:24] <_gonzo> hello
[02:24] <VincentMX> hi
[02:24] <_gonzo> I have a problem with konqueror
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:24] <maxmanbe> but still i should be able to cmpile this '("'("( gtk
[02:25] <_gonzo> When i type some url konqueror is unable to join the site
[02:25] <_gonzo> but after a refresh it works
[02:25] <_gonzo> ?!?
[02:26] <StephenZhao> detail it
[02:26] <Hobbsee> maxmanbe: i had trouble compiling it as well - dont remember the exact error thought
[02:26] <maxmanbe> :( stupid thing
[02:26] <_gonzo> for example
[02:26] <_gonzo> www.google.com
[02:27] <_gonzo> it doesn't work
[02:27] <_gonzo> but if I refresh it works
[02:27] <_gonzo> it s the same way with amarok and the lyrics
[02:28] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:28] <raitchev> _gonzo, try to clear the cache
[02:29] <StephenZhao> or some cookies
[02:31] <raitchev> clear all
[02:31] <raitchev> or.. get opera/firefox
[02:31] <raitchev> :)
[02:33] <StephenZhao> good idea,firefox is nice
[02:33] <_gonzo> ok
[02:33] <_gonzo> thx
[02:33] <_gonzo> lol
[02:33] <_gonzo> but its for amarok and the lyrics
[02:33] <_gonzo> :)
[02:34] <raitchev> amarok?
[02:34] <raitchev> for what stuff do you use amarok? browsing?
[02:34] <StephenZhao> maybe some info about the CD,I guess
[02:35] <_gonzo> In fact amarok send the same error than konqueror
[02:35] <raitchev> mabye amarok use konqueror to browse pages
[02:35] <_gonzo> when I try to get the lyrics from the internet
[02:35] <raitchev> thats why you get the same error
[02:35] <_gonzo> I guess
[02:36] <raitchev> hm strange
[02:36] <raitchev> try to clear cache and cookies
[02:36] <StephenZhao> I use amarok too ,and sometimes, I can't get lyrics too
[02:39] <StephenZhao> I even thought that if amarok has a local lyrics pools,it will be better
[02:41] <DewDude> heh
[02:41] <DewDude> gstreamer makes my system a little sluggish
[02:42] <StephenZhao> maybe we can develop a plugin for it
[02:43] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[02:43] <Ti_Uhl> how do i add support for mp3 playback ?
[02:44] <raitchev> How do I play MP3s?
[02:44] <raitchev> Install the akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad packages from the universe repository and killall artsd to restart the sound server. You will also have to restart Amarok and Kaffeine.
[02:44] <raitchev> In breezy you can add MP3 support to K3b by installing k3b-mp3.
[02:44] <raitchev> http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[02:48] <Ti_Uhl> raitchev: thx
[02:48] <Ti_Uhl> it works
[02:48] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[02:49] <raitchev> :)
[02:49] <raitchev> np
[02:50] <taojah> hello can someone explain to me how to open tar.gz files  please ??
[02:50] <Trazi> With ark
[02:51] <raitchev> tar xvfz
[02:51] <raitchev> tar xvfz filename.tar.gz
[02:51] <stisev> OK
[02:51] <taojah> 13:51 fr~raitche  : tar xvfz filename.tar.gz
[02:51] <taojah> whats that mean
[02:51] <stisev> Anyone know how to configure GRUB to accept OSX as a partition?
[02:52] <raitchev> taojah, run Konsole
[02:52] <taojah> k
[02:52] <raitchev> det cd to file's directory
[02:52] <taojah> done
[02:52] <raitchev> then*
[02:52] <raitchev> and then type that
[02:52] <taojah> i dont understand this  det cd to file's directory
[02:53] <raitchev> then*
[02:53] <raitchev> like
[02:53] <raitchev> cd /home/myuser/applications
[02:53] <taojah> thats not makin anys sense to me sorry
[02:53] <taojah> ill go read
[02:53] <_tony> hi guys - i just installed kubuntu, and have problems getting adept to work (well, KDE su refuses my root password!) - but i can su to root from an xterm - any ideas?
[02:53] <taojah> i right click and save the .tar.gz file to my desktop ..then what
[02:57] <aftertaf> _tony:  change the command in the shortcut in the menu to "kdesu adept"
[02:57] <kakei> how can i add to my kicker panel an icon to go to my Desktop Easier
[02:57] <_tony> ok - trying - thx
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi aftertaf
[02:57] <aftertaf> hi kk :)
[02:58] <DewDude> tony, go into terminal, type sudo adept
[02:58] <DewDude> it'll boot
[02:59] <aftertaf> kakei:  right click your panel, add applet > special button...
[02:59] <aftertaf> taojah:  open konsole, type cd Desktop
[02:59] <_tony> tony@control2:~$ sudo adept
[02:59] <_tony> Password:
[02:59] <_tony> Sorry, try again.
[02:59] <_tony> Password:
[02:59] <kakei> lol thx finnally
[02:59] <aftertaf> taojah:  that'll get you in the directory with your tar file.
[02:59] <DewDude> weird
[02:59] <aftertaf> _tony:  put your users password
[02:59] <aftertaf> not the root one (if you've enabled it)
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> what's up aftertaf
[03:00] <aftertaf> Kamping_Kaiser:  hehe keeping going.... :]
[03:00] <aftertaf> and you?
[03:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> not bad.
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> leaving for Tas in 5 days
[03:01] <aftertaf> kool
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, you wont be seeing much of me untill febuary after that
[03:01] <aftertaf> xmas on the island? traditional barbie?
[03:01] <aftertaf> or work....
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> visiting rellies and stuff
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> then off to newzealand :D
[03:02] <aftertaf> i've got me a new job too.... so as of 9th jan may not be on irc much too
[03:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> jees.(that's cool?)
[03:05] <aftertaf> cool for the job bit yeah :)
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> good :) that's the important bit
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> long as i can catch you when you are on, it's all good :)
[03:06] <laser_tk> !skype
[03:06] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:06] <aftertaf> all  good :]  yeah ;)
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:07] <rev> !wireless
[03:07] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:08] <_newbie_> I have some problems open a file i have on a CD 'cause (K)ubuntu doesn't show the swedish letters in the filename correctly, anyone who can help me out with this?
[03:08] <aftertaf> !se
[03:08] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, aftertaf
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: maybe
[03:11] <_newbie_> The rest of my OS is in swedish and shows all letters correctly so i dont know why the files on the CD is f****d up
[03:11] <aftertaf> maybe the mount line in fstab has a bad codepage?
[03:12] <Potus_> hi
[03:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Potus_
[03:12] <_newbie_> aftertaf: How do I attend that then?
[03:13] <_tony> aftertaf: ->xterm ->su ->apt-get install sux - and then sux to root accepts passwd and adept is running now - but surely somethin is wrong somewhere?
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: open konsole, then run `grep cdrom /etc/fstab`
[03:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> and tell us what it puts out
[03:15] <_newbie_> "/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0"
[03:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> `iso9660 user` i think that should read `iso9660,user`
[03:17] <aftertaf> sux?
[03:17] <aftertaf> !info sux
[03:17] <ubotu> sux: (wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[03:18] <aftertaf> oki
[03:18] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: How do i do to change that?
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: in your konsole window type `sudo nano /etc/fstab`
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> then like a text editor
[03:20] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: Didn't work well, unable to mount the CD now
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh ok
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> don't do that then :|
[03:21] <mzungu> aftertaf: sux is a useful tool to have! only way i solved my prob!
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: if you look at the cd in konquer does it have corrupt file names?
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> and if you look at the files in a terminal are the files names corrupted
[03:22] <hyperactivecrond> umm... if i grep a file and find the thing that i need to find, is it possible to split that result up? like doing another grep to do that?
[03:22] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes
[03:22] <mzungu> ubotu: did you see the earlier prob of kdesu not accepting root passwd?
[03:22] <ubotu> mzungu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> hyperactivecrond: just pipe it into another grep
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure of how to use grep to do it
[03:23] <Zugot> why does my mouse pointer always move to the bottom left hand corner of the screen?
[03:23] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: But it's shown correctly in Win
[03:23] <Zugot> its fairly annoying
[03:23] <aftertaf> i changed the command in the icon and it works.
[03:23] <hyperactivecrond> Kamping_Kaiser: that much i'm aware of...
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: yes, but your on a live cd
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> hyperactivecrond: `grep blah filename |grep foo`
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:25] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: If that was meant as a question; no
[03:25] <hyperactivecrond> Kamping_Kaiser: err no because the thing that i'm looking for is in the same line
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, cut?
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> _newbie_: not sure.
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> your locale might not be set correctly?
[03:28] <_newbie_> I can't change charset to the correct iso 8859-1 on the CD either
[03:28] <_newbie_> ...but to all others
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> try copying one of the files that isnt being read correctly to the hdd, and see if it displays correctly
[03:31] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: Nope, it's not showing it right
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> i don't know what could be causing it I'm afraid
[03:34] <_newbie_> Kamping_Kaiser: Sad :( I appreciate your help anyway! Thanks!
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry. good luck :|
[03:38] <ice9> need help with chroot ?
[03:38] <ice9> ./etc/fstab in giving a hard time
[03:39] <ice9> anyone around
[03:41] <bhna> need help with adaptec ah 2940U. my computer stop 30 sec after loading aic7xxx modul. how can i change this. i have only an hp scanjet 3p.
[03:45] <koe1> any developpers in here?
[03:46] <ice9> does anyone have chroot on there system
[03:47] <ice9> ?
[03:47] <Hattori> hello
[03:47] <ice9> hey
[03:47] <ice9> do you have chroot
[03:47] <Hattori> trying to mount xp shared folders on kubuntu
[03:47] <Hattori> i was able to do it
[03:48] <Hattori> but can't set fstab to do auto after reboot
[03:48] <Hattori> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lhj22a53.html
[03:48] <Hattori> this is my fstab at the moment
[03:48] <Hattori> after reboot i get empty folders =\
[03:49] <Hattori> while if i do smbmount command i'm able to mount them
[03:49] <Hattori> any clue?
[03:49] <ice9> hmm
[03:49] <ice9> should be able to
[03:49] <Hattori> indeed
[03:49] <Hattori> dunno why it doesn't
[03:50] <Hattori> any way to create a dir on kde destop that when opened launch the mount command?
[03:53] <mips> Hi, how do I edit my network settings. I cant seem to find Admin Mode button ?
[03:53] <ice9> you can use vi to edit them
[03:57] <_newbie_> mips: I have the same problem, some windows seems to be bigger than the screen, and they cant be resized either
[03:58] <slow-motion> bbl
[04:00] <mips> _newbie_: There must be a way to set this, would be very stupid if you cant.
[04:03] <_newbie_> mips: Sure there is but i don't know how
[04:04] <martinjh99> _newbie_ There are updated packages that supposedly fix that problem in breezy-updates repo...
[04:05] <martinjh99> Add these two lines to/etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <martinjh99> #
[04:05] <martinjh99> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted
[04:05] <martinjh99> #
[04:05] <martinjh99> deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy-updates main restricted
[04:05] <martinjh99> ignore the #
[04:06] <_newbie_> Thx
[04:07] <Zugot> and change the gb to us if you are in the united states
[04:08] <_newbie_> maybe se then 'cause im in Sweden
[04:08] <Zugot> _newbie_: se should work
[04:08] <ice9> sudo gedit /etc/dchroot.conf
[04:08] <ice9> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:09] <ice9> Xlib: No protocol specified
[04:09] <ice9> (gedit:12765): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:09] <Zugot> umu has a ubuntu archive
[04:09] <ice9> I get this error when trying to access gedit
[04:09] <mips> martinjh99: That did not seem to work ?
[04:10] <martinjh99> You need to do apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:11] <mips> martinjh99: Will try again, used Adapt....
[04:13] <jjesse> how do i get khelpcenter to register for katapult?
[04:21] <Lacerta> i have a file of path names. how can i access those from shell?
[04:22] <chx> hi. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36062&highlight=artifact I am getting this under Kubuntu.
[04:23] <robotgeek> Lacerta: "man xargs"
[04:24] <chx> also this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=553780&postcount=2
[04:24] <Lacerta> thanks robotgeek
[04:24] <chx> both says that the artifcats I see on my LCD driven by an nVidia chip is metacityproblems. but I have KDE
[04:41] <_newbie_>  Bill and his young wife wakes up after their first marriage night. The woman says: "Finally, I found out, why you called your company "MicroSoft".
[04:51] <melonipoika> hi, anyone could please tell me how to change the session administrator? i isntaled kubuntu from ubuntu, so now when i start it is gnome the one by defect
[04:53] <robotgeek> melonipoika: when you login, in your screen choose sessions, and then kde
[04:53] <melonipoika> yes, that screen is the one i would like to change
[04:53] <melonipoika> the one where you choose the sessions
[04:54] <Riddell> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:54] <robotgeek> melonipoika: you want to make changes to the theme? or change it to kdm from gdm?
[04:54] <robotgeek> morning Riddell
[04:54] <melonipoika> to change to kde from gdm
[04:54] <Riddell> afternoon robotgeek
[04:54] <robotgeek> Riddell: :)
[04:54] <robotgeek> melonipoika: then do what Riddell said
[04:54] <melonipoika> thanks
[04:54] <rev> why does my wlan interface do not automatically get an IP from the dhcpd when I start wpa_supplicant? I have to start dhclient manually
[04:56] <melonipoika> thanks, and now a more important question...
[04:56] <melonipoika> it doesn't automount the usb devices anymore, how can i reconfigure it?
[04:56] <melonipoika> i can't mount usb drives, or camera...
[04:57] <melonipoika> i had this problem before and i corrected it reinstalling hal and hotplug though synaptic
[04:57] <melonipoika> but it dosn't work anymore...
[04:57] <robotgeek> Riddell: what is the equivalent of gnome-volume-manager in KDE?
[04:58] <Riddell> robotgeek: breezy uses ivman, KDE 3.5 uses kded_mediamanager
[04:59] <robotgeek> thanks
[04:59] <_newbie_> Is the latest version of KDE multilanguage?
[04:59] <robotgeek> melonipoika: you are on breezy, right?
[04:59] <melonipoika> yes
[05:00] <robotgeek> melonipoika: try typing ivman in a konsole
[05:00] <melonipoika> ok ,moment
[05:01] <melonipoika> it is saying "running in user mode"
[05:01] <robotgeek> melonipoika: now try plugging in a usb storage device
[05:03] <melonipoika> ok, now i have it plugged
[05:03] <robotgeek> what did ivman say, melonipoika ?
[05:04] <melonipoika> it didn't say anything... still saying "running in user mode"
[05:04] <robotgeek> melonipoika: hmm, okay..let me try here
[05:04] <melonipoika> ok, thanks
[05:05] <robotgeek> melonipoika: can you kill it (ctrl + c), then "ps -ef | grep ivman"
[05:06] <melonipoika> yes
[05:06] <melonipoika> jose      9470  9373  0 15:56 ?        00:00:01 /usr/bin/ivman -s --nofork
[05:06] <melonipoika> jose     14949 14418  0 18:06 pts/1    00:00:00 grep ivman
[05:06] <melonipoika> this are the output
[05:07] <robotgeek> melonipoika: so, it was running before too.
[05:08] <robotgeek> melonipoika: maybe, restart hal with sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:08] <melonipoika> ok, i will try
[05:09] <melonipoika> ok, i did it, and when i ent to media, i got an error saying that the kde device manager is not running
[05:09] <Lacerta> how do i know if a path name is a directory instead of a file
[05:11] <robotgeek> Lacerta: man test
[05:11] <robotgeek> melonipoika: ps -ef | grep ivman, sorry
[05:11] <melonipoika> btw, either the ntfs partition is mounted (but this one is working fine in gnome, the usb is not working in gnome either)
[05:11] <robotgeek> melonipoika: hmm, weird
[05:12] <melonipoika> jose     15440 14418  0 18:11 pts/1    00:00:00 grep ivman
[05:12] <robotgeek> melonipoika: okay, it's not running.
[05:12] <melonipoika> ok, but still saying the same error message when opening media
[05:12] <melonipoika> ah
[05:12] <robotgeek> melonipoika: ivman -s
[05:13] <melonipoika> jose@lola:~$ ivman -s
[05:13] <melonipoika> ivman 0.6.3, http://ivman.sourceforge.net
[05:13] <melonipoika> Compiled against HAL 0.5.x or later
[05:13] <melonipoika> Running in system mode
[05:13] <melonipoika> daemonize.c:39 (daemonize) Daemonizing...
[05:13] <melonipoika> daemonize.c:71 (daemonize) Cannot open /var/run/ivman.pid
[05:14] <robotgeek> melonipoika: please don't paste in here
[05:14] <melonipoika> ok, i did the same with sudo
[05:14] <melonipoika> ok, sorry
[05:14] <melonipoika> i did sudo ivman -s and now i didn't get the erropr
[05:15] <bhsx> are there any samba gurus to help me with a little problem i'm having?  my xp(home) box can not access the shares on my kubuntu box...  i can see the shares, but when i click on them, it just keeps coming-up with the login screen
[05:16] <no0tic> hi, I've problems using my iPod with kde & ipodslave
[05:17] <no0tic> ipodslave doesn't work
[05:18] <_damien> Ya I tried installing ipodslave also and, can't get the ipod:/ thing to work in konqueror, but it works fine in amaroK
[05:18] <_damien> Not sure why, sorry =/
[05:19] <_damien> I had a quick question, how do a command to startup scripts? Couldn't find anything in the help about it...
[05:19] <no0tic> _damien, it doesn't work in amarok too
[05:20] <_damien> Oh really, that's strange, mine was working in amaroK even without having to install ipodslave.
[05:20] <_damien> that is before I installed it
[05:20] <robotgeek> _damien: do you want to start it off when kde logs in?
[05:20] <no0tic> _damien, with my ipod mini 2g it crashes
[05:21] <_damien> robotgeek: just whenever I boot up my computer really, so even before I log in if that possible?
[05:21] <_damien> but doing it after I log in would be fine also...
[05:21] <robotgeek> _damien: yes.
[05:21] <robotgeek> _damien: cp script tp /etc/init.d/
[05:22] <_damien> no0tic: I have a regular 40g ipod color
[05:22] <_damien> so that's it, just copy the command in /etc/init.d and it will run every time I boot my computer?
[05:22] <robotgeek> _damien: then, sudo update-rc.d ,script-name> defaults
[05:22] <_damien> ah ok
[05:23] <robotgeek> _damien: no , there
[05:23] <_damien> can I make a sym link instead of copying it in /etc/init.d/ ?
[05:23] <robotgeek> _damien: possibly, yes
[05:24] <melonipoika> robotgeek, some more ideas? should i check some configuration files to see what is wrong?
[05:24] <robotgeek> melonipoika: plug in your usb. then type dmesg
[05:24] <Foodcoman> Greetings
[05:25] <robotgeek> hey Foodcoman
[05:25] <melonipoika> ok, what should i look for in that list?
[05:25] <robotgeek> melonipoika: at the end, you shud see stuff with "sda mounted etc etc"
[05:25] <melonipoika> ok
[05:26] <_damien> thx robotgeek, gonna test it out
[05:26] <robotgeek> _damien: np
[05:26] <Foodcoman> Every day I appreciate Kubuntu more and more!   =)
[05:26] <melonipoika> there are some sda, but not sda mounted...
[05:27] <Foodcoman> =D
[05:27] <hugelmopf> Riddell: i also wanted to tell you, that your work in bringing kde to ubuntu is _very_ much appreciated!
[05:27] <robotgeek> melonipoika: hmm, okay. try "pmount /dev/sda1 /some/mount/point"
[05:27] <Foodcoman> Amen to what hugelmopf said.
[05:28] <ravenna> hi
[05:28] <hugelmopf> ubuntu just feels so right, it would be a shame if it would have to live without kde.
[05:28] <robotgeek> i'm really new to kubuntu, 2 days old :)
[05:28] <robotgeek> i hang in here for the cli issues :)
[05:28] <Foodcoman> Linus was quoted on saying that he likes KDE better!   Nuff said.
[05:29] <ravenna> hello
[05:29] <robotgeek> hey ravenna
[05:29] <ravenna> who r u
[05:29] <bhsx> yeah, cause Linus is the the king of useability knowledge  ;)
[05:29] <robotgeek> lol
[05:30] <ravenna> where r u from
[05:30] <Foodcoman> bhsx: hehehe
[05:30] <hugelmopf> melonipoika: about the pmount command above: "/some/mount/point" above actually has to be "/media/something"
[05:30] <Foodcoman> However one good argument is that the Gnome crowd are "C snobs".
[05:31] <ravenna> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[05:31] <Foodcoman> What is wrong with C++
[05:31] <bhsx> i'm in chicago burbs
[05:31] <robotgeek> ravenna: please stop doing that?
[05:31] <ravenna> what
[05:31] <ravenna> ????????
[05:31] <robotgeek> ravenna: typing question marks, exactly
[05:32] <robotgeek> ravenna: if you have a question, please feel free to ask
[05:32] <ravenna> who r u
[05:32] <robotgeek> ravenna: i'm a kubuntu user, and a volunteer
[05:32] <ravenna> oh
[05:33] <melonipoika> ok, i will restart because there is something wrong with my media directory, i get an error each time i try to open it
[05:33] <melonipoika> i willthen try pmount
[05:33] <melonipoika> thanks for your help, see you later!
[05:33] <melonipoika> (after rebooting)
[05:33] <robotgeek> melonipoika: later
[05:33] <ravenna> bye
[05:33] <ravenna> hello
[05:34] <ravenna> cheddar porcupines to all of u if some one dosen't talk to me
[05:35] <ravenna> mitja
[05:35] <Mitja> ravenna: what?
[05:35] <ravenna> hi
[05:35] <Mitja> hello
[05:36] <Foodcoman> Has anyone ran into an issue trying to open an .odt file from the "System Menu" - "Home Folder".  OOo starts to open the disappears.  However it works from Konqueror.
[05:36] <ravenna> what
[05:36] <Foodcoman> I noticed it after I installed Koffice, but not sure that had anything to do with it.
[05:37] <TooSad> hi
[05:37] <ravenna> hey toosad
[05:37] <TooSad> when i make apt-get update i have an error
[05:38] <TooSad> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[05:38] <TooSad> ravenna ciao
[05:38] <ravenna> what
[05:38] <TooSad> from the konsole i write sudo apt-get update
[05:38] <hugelmopf> TooSad: did you read in the announcement?
[05:39] <TooSad> at the end
[05:39] <TooSad> no
[05:39] <TooSad> what announcement?
[05:39] <hugelmopf> err, sorry.
[05:39] <hugelmopf> i thought you were talking about the kde-3.5 packages. you are not though, are you?
[05:39] <ravenna> what is ciao
[05:40] <ravenna> nm
[05:40] <ravenna> hello
[05:41] <hugelmopf> TooSad: if you are talking about KDE-3.5 or Amarok-1.3.7 packages, then look in the announcement how to get the key: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[05:41] <TooSad> yes but i don't tell this
[05:42] <TooSad> what kind of error i have?
[05:42] <TooSad> GPG error?
[05:42] <robotgeek> TooSad: yes
[05:42] <TooSad> what is this?
[05:42] <hugelmopf> not really an error, it's just a warning.
[05:42] <TooSad> this warning is due to?
[05:42] <hugelmopf> you have to import the public key to verify the packages' integrity. how you can do this, is posted in the announcement i linked to.
[05:43] <melonipoika_> hi again
[05:43] <melonipoika_> ok, now i got an icon on my desktop
[05:43] <ravenna> hi
[05:43] <TooSad> ok
[05:43] <TooSad> tnx
[05:43] <melonipoika_> (with the usb drive symbol)
[05:44] <robotgeek> melonipoika_: nice :)
[05:44] <Foodcoman> melonipoika_: pmount did the trick?
[05:44] <TooSad> i resorve it
[05:44] <TooSad> i resolve it
[05:45] <TooSad> tnx a lot
[05:45] <robotgeek> hugelmopf: maybe add to /topic ?
[05:45] <robotgeek> hmm, it's already there.
[05:45] <leafww> hi all. Where can one find a proper /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy ?
[05:46] <robotgeek> !easysource
[05:46] <ubotu> it has been said that easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:46] <leafww> should I just %s/Hoary/Breezy/g ?
[05:46] <robotgeek> leafww: pretty much
[05:46] <robotgeek> leafww: you might want to take a look at the upgrade guide
[05:46] <robotgeek> !breezy
[05:46] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:46] <leafww> robotgeek: url ?
[05:46] <leafww> thank you
[05:48] <melonipoika_> sorry, i have to go to lunch now
[05:49] <melonipoika_> thanks for your help
[05:49] <robotgeek> melonipoika_: np, i'm going to sleep :)
[05:49] <melonipoika_> ok, thank you very much
[05:51] <conn> hi, is it best to use dist-upgrade or just upgrade when I'm upgrading my dapper flight 2 system?
[05:51] <robotgeek> hmm, i'll let someone else anwser this one
[05:52] <l3m> any ideas? the whole thing compiles fine on debian: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zQdex659.html
[05:53] <robotgeek> l3m: compiler differences? i dunno what i am talkin about
[05:53] <Foodcoman> l3m: Must have different gcc stuff between systems.
[05:54] <Foodcoman> check deb system and compair version to what you have installed in Kubuntu.
[05:54] <Foodcoman> =(   compare
[06:04] <bhsx> OK.... i got the samba config all working... how do i get hamachi to start automatically in kubuntu?  i need to 'sudo /home/bhsx/hamachi/tuncfg' and 'sudo hamachi start'?  where would I put that/how would I do it?
[06:05] <robotgeek> bhsx: if it's a system service, it would generally have come with a init script in /etc/init.d/
[06:06] <bhsx> it's a VPN app, that's not setup as a service yet
[06:06] <TooSad> kde 3.5 is ok or not yet?
[06:06] <Foodcoman> If it is a registered service you can also used System Settings app then Services in the System Administration section.
[06:07] <bhsx> if it is not a registered service?
[06:07] <Foodcoman> Ah sorry bhsx
[06:07] <bhsx> check out hamachi.cc , it's a really neat little app
[06:08] <robotgeek> where can i find documentation about kapapult?
[06:10] <robotgeek> katapult, err
[06:13] <Ti_Uhl> hi