[00:05] <holstein> lol
[00:05] <holstein> its unfortunate to try things that are meant for other OS's and be dissapointed
[06:07] <Potpeel> Hello what display manager does Ubuntustudio use?
[19:30] <studio-user213> Bonsoir


[12:52] <skinux> I seem to have ALT-arrow key hotkeys that switch between shells and DE. How do I get a settings dialog to unset the hotkey?


[01:14] <Lynx|2> anyone having problems with flash in 11.04 natty?
[01:57] <FloridaGuy> i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....so i do i make it finsh the job....??
[01:57] <FloridaGuy> ?
[02:10] <FloridaGuy> i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....so i do i make it finsh the job....??
[02:20] <carl0s-> I saw on OMG!Ubuntu that there's supposed to be a fancy search screen that comes up, a bit like what the Gnome 3 website shows for "when you press the activities key". What's keys do I press? Is it meant to be super+9 ?
[02:50] <nit-wit> FloridaGuy, was this a upgrade from maverick?
[03:05] <carl0s-> I saw on OMG!Ubuntu that there's supposed to be a fancy search screen that comes up, a bit like what the Gnome 3 website shows for "when you press the activities key". What's keys do I press? Is it meant to be super+9 ?
[03:23] <FloridaGuy> to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04.....i did ( do-release-upgrade -d )   there at the end it said 26 package need remove... to continue ( Y ) ( N ) or ( D ) for details...so i hit ( D ) to see what packages were being removed..and it wouldent let me get back to press ( Y ) to continue...so now if i do (do-release-upgrade -d ) i get no new release found...so its not leting me finsh the job...and sudo apt-get upgrade...finds nothing.....
[03:23] <FloridaGuy> so i do i make it finsh the job....??....everything runing good but is there away to get it to finsh
[03:25] <rww> FloridaGuy: it's practically finished, that was the last step. I believe "sudo apt-get autoremove" is a decent approximation of that step, but it's 1) optional, 2) something you should check over with care before confirming.
[03:27] <FloridaGuy> rww: what would i check on option 2
[03:28] <rww> FloridaGuy: that it's not asking to remove packages you want to keep
[03:29] <FloridaGuy> rww: that looks like everything
[03:31] <FloridaGuy> rww: maybe you could help me with this.....after doing all my updates on 10.10...then got nvidia installed....i lost the plymouth screen....all i get is a text boot screen
[03:31] <bjsnider> oh no! a text boot screen!
[03:31] <rww> the nvidia proprietary driver doesn't support plymouth, if I remember correctly. I don't use nvidia, so I have no expertise in the area.
[03:32] <FloridaGuy> never lost it in mandriva
[03:33]  * rww shrugs
[06:12] <QQi> LibreOffice comming to default office right (today)?
[09:00] <rohdef> what version of Mono does Natty run?
[09:04] <rohdef> seems from launchpad it's 2.6 where do I request that it's upgraded to 2.8
[09:06] <rohdef> if we're lucky 2.10 might even be out in time so it can reach Natty, so it would be rather nice to see the packages not being held back for several versions for once
[09:18] <cousin_mario> is Natty going to have optional support for Wayland?
[10:39] <rohdef> did an upgrade to the alpha, seems that my encrypted home folder breaks in Natty
[10:39] <rohdef> is there somthing I can do to fix this?
[10:40] <rohdef> eg mount the folder, recover my files and then go to non-encrypted
[10:42] <rohdef> if I try to ls in my home folder from the recovery console it I get a lot of output from the kernel, I could search through it and I could see anything that hint's what the error is
[10:44] <rohdef> also ctrl+alt+f{1-6} seems to do (nearly) nothing, the login images stays on the screen, but I can't interact with it unless I go back to ctrl+alt+f7
[11:21] <DexterF> hi
[11:21] <DexterF> 11.04 with unity: true?
[11:25] <ccooke> true
[11:25] <ccooke> using it now.
[11:26] <ccooke> ... it's finally approaching usable :-)
[11:55] <smoser> anyone else have firefox stuck in fullscreen with unity now ?
[11:56] <smoser> i can't drag it out of maximized and I don't know of another way in unity
[12:04] <DexterF> will gnome3 be optional?
[12:05] <bazhang> yep
[12:08] <DexterF> good.
[12:18] <boxxy> Does this channel support gnome shell?
[12:20] <smoser> well, my firefox maximized seems fixed after logout and back in (and an upgrade)
[13:07] <Trewas> I somehow thought unity would have some basic functionality by now... is there for example some way to run programs which are not included in the sidebar by default? (other than starting file manager which is there and going with it to /usr/bin)
[13:20] <Ohelig> yeah, I don't like unity. I use the "Classic desktop"
[13:22] <Daekdroom> libreoffice is broken. Oh well. That's what I get for using alpha software.
[13:39] <wrst> Trewas: after you get it running you can right click in the side bar thing keep in dock or something along those lines
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:00] <BluesKaj> openoffice is bring removed in favour of libreoffice , not that I use office suites much , but it's an interesting development nontheless
[15:01] <BluesKaj> hi genii-around :)
[15:01] <genii-around> Hiyas BluesKaj
[15:01]  * genii-around cleans out the coffeepot, makes a fresh batch
[15:02] <genii-around> BluesKaj: The k3b error I was having cleared up (was not detecting drive, etc)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> ahh ok , good to know , genii-around
[15:10] <coz_> ah... libre office  is now installed...cool... I dont have to do it manually :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:13] <rork> especially for I've been told libreoffice has development :)
[15:30] <cmagina> yeah, at lpc there was a talk about it and that there was a nice influx of new developers and also that the code was being cleaned up
[15:31] <Volkodav> is xfce 4.8 being worked on ?
[15:33] <Volkodav> was released 4 days
[15:34] <charlie-tca> Volkodav: yes! It is in Xubuntu Natty
[15:34] <Volkodav> do I need a ppa to install on regular ?
[15:35] <charlie-tca> and, it has been in natty since 4.7 was ready
[15:35] <charlie-tca> Are you using xubuntu Natty?
[15:35] <Volkodav> I just checked and I have still 4.7
[15:35] <Volkodav> no ubuntu natty
[15:35] <Volkodav> I just added it later
[15:35] <charlie-tca> It will update as it gets packaged, the same way the rest of it has
[15:36] <charlie-tca> We don't seem to be able to package as fast as Xfce can announce things
[15:36] <Volkodav> so I just have to wait - did they finally fix the weather applet ?
[15:37] <charlie-tca> You know as much as I do. I haven't seen an announcement yet that it is fixed
[15:37] <Volkodav> it has been a pain since ....forever I remember xfce lol
[15:38] <Volkodav> it used to crash the whole panel back in 4.1.
[15:38] <charlie-tca> It hasn't crashed in Lucid, using 4.6.1, in months here
[15:39] <Volkodav> good
[16:37] <genii-around> Is one-time boot option of "profile" to speed subsequent boots worth bothering with now with upstart ?
[16:42] <genii-around> ( or will it still calculate which remaining sysinit scripts can be loaded in parallel ? )
[17:02] <mikebeecham> Good evening - Thought I would ask.  Is Natty ready for daily use as yet, or still at Alpha stage?
[17:03] <yofel> still alpha
[17:03] <yofel> !schedule
[17:05] <dupondje> somebody knows if installer is working fine on 11.04 ?
[17:05] <dupondje> getting new laptop tomorrow ^^
[17:06] <charlie-tca__> it worked yesterday
[17:07] <dupondje> k :) i'll fetch the daily image then :)
[17:07] <charlie-tca__> it works and breaks daily, I think. You really have to try everyday to see if it broke again
[17:11] <dupondje> well yea I leech & burn the latest daily
[17:11] <dupondje> if it fails, I fetch another :)
[17:11] <dupondje> Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 700MB CD. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a USB drive, or a virtual machine.
[17:11] <dupondje> mmm
[17:11] <dupondje> thats crap :)
[17:12] <Volkodav> no reason to jump through the hoops and try to fit everything for a daily build
[17:13] <dupondje> daily of yesterday has correct size .. :)
[17:13] <dupondje> lets fetch that one then
[17:15]  * BluesKaj just runs daily updates
[17:16] <dupondje> yea true. But i need a new install
[17:17] <BluesKaj> dupondje,  can't do-release-upgrade -d ?
[17:18] <dupondje> BluesKaj: new computer ...
[17:18] <dupondje> :)
[17:18] <BluesKaj> ahh, virgin linux :)
[17:19] <BluesKaj> dupondje, fancy ?
[17:19] <dupondje> Asus K52JE-EX069V
[17:25] <BluesKaj> dupondje, nice lappy :)
[17:26] <dupondje> nothign special :)
[17:27] <BluesKaj> dupondje, well it's more than I'd spend on a laptop
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ok lunch , BBL
[17:56] <smoser> sp o
[17:56] <smoser> i'm running ekiga under unity.  i can't seem to get at the preferences.
[17:57] <smoser> they get grayed out in the top panel
[17:59] <smoser> any ideas ? i basically can't configure it.
[20:32] <Daekdroom> Libreoffice l10 packages are broken, unfortunately.
[20:32] <Daekdroom> They try to replace the splash image that comes with the libreoffice package already, and then apt refuses to install :(
[20:33] <Daekdroom> It should be fixed soon anyway. RC4 is out.
[20:40] <BluesKaj> Daekdroom, libreoffice installed ok here as far as I can tell.
[20:40] <cmagina> Daekdroom: same for me
[20:40] <Daekdroom> but did you guys install it along translation packages?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> Daekdroom, not sure about translations , unless they're installed by default
[21:04] <Daekdroom> It was installed by default in here because I installed my system in pt-br, and it's precisely that package that is broken. Everything else is fine,.
[21:04] <Daekdroom> However, I find it safe to assume that it affects all translations packages.
[21:28] <mrsun>  #emc
[22:36] <Daekdroom> !info libunity3
[22:53] <charlie-tca> does libreoffice remove openoffice by itself?
[22:53] <Daekdroom> charlie-tca, apparently not
[22:54] <charlie-tca> So, if openoffice is installed, we get both installed now with the updates
[22:54] <Daekdroom> Yes
[22:54] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[22:54] <rww> I haven't updated in over a week, so I'll go check when these updates are done ;)
[23:00] <rww> charlie-tca: all of the openoffice.org packages I now have installed apart from openoffice.org-style-human are transitional packages
[23:02] <charlie-tca> so, then, it should remove oo.org and install libreoffice without duplicating them
[23:08] <rww> charlie-tca: there's an update to ubuntu-desktop that I can't install because of dependency hell. since that's what's keeping the openoffice.org-* packages installed right now, perhaps the update fixes it
[23:08] <charlie-tca> close enough then
[23:09] <Daekdroom> I find it odd that openoffice.org is being replaced by transitional packages, in theory, it'll continue in development.
[23:10] <rww> I don't. Ubuntu's openoffice.org packages used Go-OO instead anyway; didn't package Sun/Oracle upstream versions.
[23:11] <Daekdroom> Go-OO?
[23:11] <rww> the only thing that's really changed is that the packages are named properly ;)
[23:12] <rww> http://go-oo.org/
[23:12] <rww> (and Go-oo is now merging with LibreOffice)
[23:13] <Daekdroom> Sounds good.
[23:14] <rww> charlie-tca: according to LP, the last update to ubuntu-desktop was two weeks ago and didn't involve OpenOffice.org, so I guess that has yet to be sorted out.
[23:15] <charlie-tca> Daekdroom: Ubuntu heavily modified OpenOffic.org to work with the distribution. They won't have to make the modifications for LibreOffice
[23:27] <rww> heh, looks like I'm back in the land of horribly-broken GUI


[00:06] <Cody1> hi
[00:14]  * Psilocybin_Elf nods.
[00:17] <meowbuntu> Cody1, hi are you going to ask your question here instead of #ubuntu
[00:21] <Cody1> I was about to, but I found the (possible) answer on the Ubuntu forums.
[00:36] <ubuntudude> can i use magicjack under wine? if not is there a Linux alternative?
[00:36] <Cody1> hello again
[00:37] <Cody1> I'm booting Xubuntu 9.10 off a flash drive... I was wondering if there is a way to do away with the Live User and have a real account and password?
[00:37] <mhall119> Cody1, you'll have to customize the LiveCD
[00:37] <Cody1> Is that difficult to do?
[00:38] <Cody1> aka ~ is it worth the effort?
[00:39] <mhall119> nah, it's easy, let me find you a guide
[00:40] <mhall119> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[00:40] <Cody1> thank you
[00:40] <ubuntudude> can i use magicjack under wine? if not is there a Linux alternative?
[00:40] <mhall119> once you get to the point you're in the chroot environment, just run 'adduser' from the command line to create the user account you want
[00:41] <mhall119> ubuntudude, no idea, you might try asking in #ubuntu, someone there may know
[00:42] <ubuntudude> thats where i asked first and still am
[00:42] <Cody1> ubuntudude: try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1027567
[00:49] <Cody1> hey mhall, any ideas on having my computers hard drive show up while I'm booted in Xubuntu off the flash drive? It shows in Gparted, just not anywhere else that I can see.
[00:50] <Cody1> Someone on the forums said to try a few sudo dmraid commands... but those didn't work.
[00:56] <Cody1> thanks again
[01:24] <skavez> hi there -- i installed xubuntu 9.10 via WUBI onto a netbook, but for some reason grub no longer gives me a menu list, but instead a prompt/shell. i can't find any "root.disk" in my C:, which seems to be needed
[01:24] <skavez> just trying to get into the install, back up my files, and then do a proper partioned install
[01:28] <skavez> in C:\disks, there's swap.disk and boot\grub\ but that's empty
[02:36] <XRunner> anyone around to help with a issue i've having with Xubuntu 9.1 and my wireless card :( i can't log into my connection its asks for WPA password and I enter it and wont connect to it.. even tried typing in the password in hex and still nothing :(
[02:47] <ed3> I have a question on loading adobe flash player.  I have followed the instructions, but cannot get the file to extract properly.  Can anyone describe the correct way to load tar.gz items, or instruct me on loading the flash player for firefox?
[02:52] <psycho_oreos> why not just install flashplayer-plugin from the repo?
[03:04] <ed3> uhhhh... Because I just installed xubuntu, and don't know how to do anything but follow the instructions that I read for each operation that I want to perform.  I think that I may have found the problem.  I am not logged in as root.  However, I have tried to log in as root, and the authentication fails.  I am stuck.
[03:05] <ed3> I don't know how to load from the repo, but am willing to try!
[03:12] <skavez> ed3: I don't have a xubuntu install available atm...but open Accessories: Terminal and type: sudo aptitude install flashplayer-plugin
[03:12] <skavez> or: aptitude search flashplayer
[03:20] <ed3> Terminal indicated that it couldn't find flashplayer-plugin, and then removed some linux headers.
[03:21] <ed3> running the search
[03:21] <ed3> nothing returned and I am back at the prompt
[03:22] <skavez> ed3: have you tried this <http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html#comment-150888>?
[05:24] <etron_> hey my computer isnt recognizing my soundcard
[05:25] <etron_> can any1 help me?
[05:26] <etron_> any1?
[06:48] <ubuntudude> i have a dual core with 4gb ram, would i notice speed differences between xubuntu and ubuntu?
[06:53] <Sogekingu> Hi I cant seem to set a screen resolution higher than 800x600
[06:53] <Sogekingu> btw I am running this within virtualbox.
[07:23] <Sogekingu> Hi I cant seem to set a screen resolution higher than 800x600
[07:23] <Sogekingu> btw I am running this within virtualbox.
[08:30] <Cody1> hello
[08:31] <Cody1> I've got Xubuntu 9.10 booting off a flash drive.
[08:32] <Cody1> About 3.5hours ago an alert popped up with 135mb of updates..
[08:32] <Cody1> So I figured it wouldn't take long to do the updates, so I let it run through.
[08:32] <Cody1> And it tooks like 3.5hrs for everything to finish... reboot and now part of the top task bar is missing.
[08:32] <Cody1> The applications..places.. all that stuff is gone. :/
[08:35] <TheSheep> maybe it failed to install evertyhgin for some reason?
[08:35] <TheSheep> what was the last message of the upgrade program?
[08:36] <Cody1> Honestly I don't remember.
[08:36] <TheSheep> try finishing the update by running 'sudo apt-get install'
[08:36] <Cody1> Alrighty..
[08:36] <Cody1> What folder is the terminal in?
[08:37] <TheSheep> press alt+f2 and ype 'xfce4-terminal
[08:37] <TheSheep> '
[08:37] <TheSheep> type*
[08:37] <Cody1> thanks
[08:38] <Cody1> Ok.. hopefully this doesn't boot me... but this is what I get after doinng the sudo apt-get
[08:38] <Cody1> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install
[08:38] <Cody1> Reading package lists... Done
[08:38] <Cody1> Building dependency tree
[08:38] <Cody1> Reading state information... Done
[08:38] <Cody1> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[08:38] <Cody1>   libopenal1 fakeroot libboost-thread1.38.0 libboost-date-time1.38.0 libplib1
[08:38] <Cody1>   patch libphysfs1 gnash-common freeglut3 libsdl-image1.2
[08:38] <Cody1> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[08:38] <Cody1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11 not upgraded.
[08:39] <TheSheep> hmm.. ok, so it finished
[08:39] <TheSheep> so jus add your menu back to the panel
[08:39] <TheSheep> just*
[08:39] <Cody1> I don't know how, lol.
[08:40] <Cody1> I'd been looking around in some of the folders trying to find the terminal (didn't know alt+f2), and found XChat in the process.
[08:40] <TheSheep> right-click, select 'add', 'xfce4 menu' and 'places'
[08:40] <Cody1> lol.. I didn't think it would be so simple.
[08:41] <TheSheep> ah, check your free disk space
[08:41] <TheSheep> maybe it disappeared because of lack of space
[08:42] <TheSheep> 'sudo apt-get clean' should delete the cache after upgrade and free some space
[08:44] <Cody1> ^ Did that, but didn't seem to do anything.
[08:45] <Cody1> I've got my menus back now though, so all is good.
[08:46] <Cody1> Thanks for that
[08:48] <Cody1> I need to look through synaptic... the update seemed to be updating stuff I don't use/don't need.
[08:48] <Cody1> It was saying something about updating lubuntu, kubuntu...etc..
[10:04] <paoligno> Hi. I'm using 9.10 and I can't see the onboard wireless network card. With an older version of xubuntu (maybe 8.10) I could.... what I can do?
[10:28] <psycho_oreos> paoligno, pastebin your lspci -nnk output
[10:30] <migi> hello
[10:31] <paoligno> http://paste.ubuntu.com/376072/
[10:31] <paoligno> psycho_oreos:
[10:32] <psycho_oreos> paoligno, not really recommended with old versions of xubuntu, why 8.10?
[10:33] <paoligno> psycho_oreos: ?
[10:33] <paoligno> I only remember that with 8.10 it worked
[10:33] <psycho_oreos> paoligno, your wireless card would highly favour at minimum karmic or later
[10:34] <psycho_oreos> you might be able to get it working with restricted-drivers
[10:34] <psycho_oreos> installing wl
[10:34] <psycho_oreos> but you'll need to blacklist b43 stuff
[10:34] <paoligno> psycho_oreos: should I  apt-get install wl ?
[10:35] <psycho_oreos> paoligno, no I suggest you to try going through hardware drivers option
[10:35] <paoligno> let me check
[10:36] <migis> could anyone please show me how can i open and edit xubuntu's loading file (whichever it is).
[10:36] <eXpl0i7> ex: sudo mousepad /etc/fstab
[10:36] <psycho_oreos> migis, what do you mean loading file?
[10:36] <paoligno> psycho_oreos: great! thanks
[10:37] <psycho_oreos> paoligno, working? good to hear
[10:38] <migis> psycho_oreos: well, i installed firmware for a wireless device which is, apparently, not on my computer. now my computer does recognize its own wireless at the end of the day, though the installed firmware still tries to load and then shows that it does not recognize it, etc. is there a file which shows which programs are requested to load?
[10:39] <paoligno> psycho_oreos: yes thanks again
[10:39] <psycho_oreos> paoligno, nw
[10:39] <psycho_oreos> migis, which wireless chipset?
[10:39] <knome> psycho_oreos, congrats. are you ready to step to the next challenge? ;)
[10:39] <psycho_oreos> knome, almost always ready lol
[10:40] <knome> hehe, good to hear. i'll ask you next time then ;]
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> knome, about? wireless?
[10:40] <migis> psycho_oreos: well, i wrote this " sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43" though b43 is not on this laptop.
[10:40] <knome> psycho_oreos, about any wicked problems :)
[10:40] <migis> psycho_oreos: i just need to know the file which still request that line and then delete it so it doesn't request it anymore.
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> migis, b43 is a driver not a program.. so the driver would request the firmware which is usually in the default path of /lib/firmware
[10:40] <knome> psycho_oreos, wicked as in NOT wicd ;)
[10:41] <psycho_oreos> knome, umm well I'm not an all rounder lol
[10:41] <psycho_oreos> migis, if it doesn't request firmware, the driver would not work
[10:41] <migis> psycho_oreos: so how can i remove that?
[10:42] <psycho_oreos> migis, remove requesting?
[10:43] <migis> psycho_oreos: is there a way to check now when i am using xubuntu what lines were written on the screen when it was loading?
[10:44] <migis> psycho_oreos: it just seems that it requests that firmware although it does not exist on my computer.
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> migis, its usually in dmesg for any requesting stuff but you need to install the firmware or the card won't work
[10:45] <migis> psycho_oreos: how can i check which wireless drive i use?
[10:45] <psycho_oreos> migis, usually with lspci -nnk
[10:46] <migis> psycho_oreos: does this line "30:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g [14e4:4312] (rev 01)
[10:46] <migis> 	Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[10:46] <migis> 	Kernel modules: ssb
[10:46] <migis> " show that my card must work with d43 driver?
[10:47] <psycho_oreos> migis, b43... yes
[10:47] <migis> psycho_oreos: so how can i install firmware then?
[10:48] <psycho_oreos> that card will work with b43 but it will also require firmware.. usually if you installed the fwcutter, you probably need to restart
[10:48] <migis> my laptop is HP compaq nx6325
[10:48] <migis> so i have to write " sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43" in terminal and restart then?
[10:49] <psycho_oreos> no, if you can successfully remove b43, it should work but double-check to see if there's b43 firmware inside /lib/firmware
[10:50] <psycho_oreos> I think from memory its under /lib/firmware/b43
[10:50] <migis> no, there is no /lib/firmware/b43
[10:51] <migis> so should i run that line again or do something else?
[10:52] <psycho_oreos> I would do each of the commands separately, i.e. one by one
[10:52] <migis> and what to do after each of them?
[10:53] <psycho_oreos> if they all succeeded, your wireless card should be working
[10:53] <migis> ok, thanks, i will do that
[10:55] <psycho_oreos> I thought that if your wireless card is not one of those pcmcia/express card type things, you might not be able to remove the driver because the driver would be hooked to the actual device. Usually with pcmcia/express card, that is the case and you can get away by issuing stuff like pccardctl eject.. but for pci/minipci/pcie/minipcie/etc the case is different
[10:55] <psycho_oreos> usb is completely different altogether
[10:55] <migis> ok, i have done everything, now rebooting. brb.
[13:28] <GodzKnightZ> Xubuntu 9.10 + Intel 5100 AGN wireless card = not being able to authentical WPA passphrase... please help
[13:29] <vinnl> !wpa
[13:29] <vinnl> :)
[13:34] <GodzKnightZ> thanks, but now i'm stuck.. when i use the wpa_passphrase command and hit enter it just goes to a blank line with > on it
[13:35] <vinnl> GodzKnightZ, where did you see that command?
[13:35] <GodzKnightZ> under the wpa_supplicant config section
[13:36] <vinnl> GodzKnightZ, link?
[13:36] <GodzKnightZ> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#Configuring%20wpa_supplicant
[13:37] <GodzKnightZ> i have tried everything i can think of and google hasnt been my friend on this.. i've tried everything i've read and to no end has it worked.. i've even tried ditching NM and using wicd but that works worse then NM does for me
[13:37] <vinnl> GodzKnightZ, did you supply the ESSID?
[13:38] <GodzKnightZ> vinnl, yup i enter it exactly how it tells me to and when i hit enter i get a blank line with a > on it and cant do anything till i ctrl+c
[13:38] <vinnl> GodzKnightZ, you have to enter your WPA password then
[13:39] <GodzKnightZ> ahhhh thank you!!
[13:40] <vinnl> :)
[13:40] <psycho_oreos> wpa_passphrase accepts two arguments.. one is the ESSID and the other is the passphrase
[13:40] <vinnl> ...though you don't want to pass your password in the arguments
[13:41] <psycho_oreos> I find it faster if you piped the output of wpa_passphrase into wpa_supplicant.conf and edit the conf file from there
[13:41] <psycho_oreos> well if your screen is visible to another naked eye apart from yours :)
[13:42] <vinnl> psycho_oreos, yeah or if someone goes snooping in your logs ;)
[13:43] <GodzKnightZ> im a total noob just recently gone to linux havent touched it since like RH5 lol so its all new to me again thus why having so much issues with this lol
[13:43] <psycho_oreos> vinnl, or that if your system is already compromised
[13:43] <vinnl> GodzKnightZ, bad luck I suppose
[13:43] <vinnl> Normally WPA just works
[13:44] <GodzKnightZ> i've read so many people having issues with WPA and 9.10
[13:44] <vinnl> Yes that's because you went looking for it ;-)
[13:45] <vinnl> You don't typically have people signing up to forums to say "ha, my WPA works, just wanted to say that :)"
[13:45] <GodzKnightZ> even in the irc channels and bug reports im seeing alot with WPA problems with laptop wireless cards..
[13:46] <vinnl> Ah OK
[13:46] <GodzKnightZ> my friend installed the prior verson to 9.1 and has no issues (exact same laptop) but i decided to go with 9.1 and  this seems to be my problem. i've read alot of people downgraded some stuff and it works flawlessly but i dont know how to do any of that stuff
[13:49] <GodzKnightZ> i've noticed from peoples posts that under 8 everything works like a charm then they went to 9.1 and have the same problem im having is there a big difference between 8 and 9 ?
[13:50] <GodzKnightZ> cause i may just go to 8 and see if it works and if it does just stick with that
[13:50] <vinnl> You could, but you see things like that every release
[13:50] <Sysi> you should use what works best for you' as long as it's supported
[13:50] <GodzKnightZ> err not 8 i mean 9.04
[13:51] <vinnl> You also see things like "wow, it never worked with 8.10 but now I tried 9.04 and suddenly it works!"
[13:51] <vinnl> Yeah what Sysi said :)
[13:51]  * `mOOse` hugs xubuntu
[13:52] <GodzKnightZ> well i know when releases come out they should solve problems.. but to create a problem with drivers that didnt have a problem before seems a bit weird to me isnt that kinda defeating the purpose of updating?
[13:53] <`mOOse`> er sry...I just...get...so....emotional.....
[13:53] <`mOOse`> @@
[13:53] <Sysi> it's hard to try support *everything* hardware when things are changing
[13:53] <vinnl> GodzKnightZ, that's called a "regression" and happens to all software. When adding enhancements, it might happen that you introduce a bug by oversight
[13:53]  * Xubuntu hugs `mOOse`
[13:54] <`mOOse`> !!!
[13:54] <Vinnl> :)
[13:54] <`mOOse`> mOO!
[13:55] <GodzKnightZ> true.. tends to happen with outdated hardware that cant support the newer software but the 5100 AGN card isnt that old lol <shrug> time to download 9.04 and see if things work..
[13:55] <TheSheep> my scanner finally worked out of the box, after 3 years of compiling drivers after every ugrade
[13:55] <`mOOse`> GodzKnightZ, sometimes fixing one problem creates 3 more
[13:55] <`mOOse`> this is a constant in the art of coding
[13:55] <TheSheep> a success story :)
[13:55] <Vinnl> Oh, what is handy by the way, is that you can just run a livecd to check whether everything works :)
[13:55] <Vinnl> TheSheep, \o/
[13:56] <TheSheep> Vinnl: especially since I reported a bug with exact solution 3 years ago ;)
[13:56] <`mOOse`> you will find this relevant in any OS at any time to more or less varying degrees
[13:56] <GodzKnightZ> my first mistake was buying a HP laptop lol so that can only be blamed on me.. ive noticed people tend to have issues with dells and hp's more then any other brand out there hehe
[13:56] <Vinnl> Ugh >.<
[13:57] <GodzKnightZ> vista wont even recognize my wireless card unless i download the drivers from the HP site
[14:24] <becker_11> .
[14:47] <migis> hello
[14:49] <migis> does anyone know why i get an error opening message when trying to open pdf on oracle?
[14:50] <migis> sorry, i meant "ocular", not "oracle"
[15:05] <ubuntudude> a while back i switched from gnome to xfce because i had a netbook, but now that i've got a powerful system does it really make a difference which one i use as far as speed goes?
[15:06] <ubuntudude> oops i was typing before it logged in and didn
[15:06] <ubuntudude> didnt get it all
[15:16] <justgreg> hello
[15:16] <justgreg> i have an interesting problem
[15:16] <justgreg> my toolbars  disappeared after a restart
[15:17] <justgreg> do any of yall know how to fix this problem
[15:30] <Sysi> !panels
[15:50] <justgreg> thanks for the help
[15:51] <justgreg> sorry it took so long to reply i was in another channel trying to get some help
[15:51] <justgreg> i should have stayed here
[15:51] <justgreg> that fixed it right away
[15:51] <Sysi> np :)
[19:47] <The-Kernel> hey all
[19:47] <The-Kernel> Is there any known working webcam software/apps for xubuntu?
[19:57] <MTecknology> how do I make it so the Session and Startip app doesn't load when I log in? and how can I shut down from a session?
[19:59] <MTecknology> I'm trying to find a config for what is loaded when you login
[20:01] <becker_11> The-Kernel: have you tried mplayer?? apparently it works
[20:02] <becker_11> The-Kernel: the code is mplayer -fps 15 tv://
[20:02] <The-Kernel> ok thanks
[20:02] <The-Kernel> I'll try it
[20:03] <becker_11> The-Kernel: otherwise there are several that work but have gnome dependecies
[20:06] <The-Kernel> ok
[22:40] <joker_> hello
[22:41] <joker_> i'm truble, i starting xubuntu 9.10 via live CD and now they ask me on a login?
[22:41] <joker_> username/password?!
[22:42] <anom01y> how do I get the visualizations to work in amarok
[22:42] <joker_> anom01y: you meaning me?
[22:43] <anom01y> ?
[22:44] <joker_> anom01y: I not understand your question?!
[22:44] <anom01y> joker_, download the desktop version ?
[22:44] <joker_> yes desktop version
[22:44] <joker_> but... hmm... maybe... can be the alternate.. how i can see it?
[22:45] <joker_> i'm bruning new.
[22:48] <joker_> I'm Downloading last month too the alternate for my ps3... and yesterday i would to burn the desktop adm64 image.. and i turn a roling (no write anything on it) to my drive... and than starting a xubuntu screen... and i think, wow nice... dont needed to burn! i found the losted cd...
[22:49] <joker_> now i'm unsure... it can be too the alternate cd... :-)
[22:49] <joker_> but in 10 minutes we know more..
[22:57] <joker_> okay now it works!
[22:57] <joker_> its be wrong version on roling
[22:57] <joker_> thanks
[23:09] <`mOOse`> are ppl using xubuntu on netbooks?
[23:09] <TheSheep> !u
[23:10] <tf2ftw> sdf
[23:10] <TheSheep> !hi | tf2ftw
[23:10] <tf2ftw> how do you change the default file manager?
[23:11] <TheSheep> I don't think it's defined anywahere, you just use a different program for manageing your files
[23:26] <tf2ftw> theres gotta be a way to change the default file manager.
[23:26] <TheSheep> tf2ftw: default for what?
[23:27] <TheSheep> tf2ftw: I mean, what program starts it?
[23:27] <TheSheep> tf2ftw: usually you start a file manager yourself, so just start a different one
[23:27] <tf2ftw> i want to use dolphin instead of thunar