[01:13] <raf1hh> hi all
[01:14] <raf1hh> has anybody any experience getting ruby 1.8.2 or 1.8.4 on a fresh 5.10 server?
[01:16] <lh317> i haven't.
[01:17] <raf1hh> there is so much conflicting info on this subject on google that my head hurts...
[01:17] <raf1hh> thought would ask sombody...
[01:18] <lh317> unless I'm missing something, it should be as easy as 'sudo apt-get install ruby'
[01:18] <raf1hh> yes, it installs 1.8.3 which is very buggy and not advised to be running
[01:18] <raf1hh> 1.8.2 and .4 are the two stable releases
[01:19] <lh317> breezy claims 1.8.2-9
[01:20] <lh317> so I have to wonder how you're getting 1.8.3.
[01:20] <raf1hh> but once you install it, it actually is 1.8.3
[01:20] <lh317> sure it's not like a CVS pull and the version is wrong?
[01:20] <lh317> that's what the changelog implies to me.
[01:21] <lh317> http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/r/ruby1.8/ruby1.8_1.8.2-9ubuntu1/changelog
[01:21] <lh317> hrm, i need to learn to read.  updated to 1.8.3-preview1 :/
[01:22] <raf1hh> is it possible/safe to install a package from debian unstable repository?
[01:22] <raf1hh> I guess more like possible without breaking too much stuff...
[01:22] <lh317> possible?  Yes.  Safe? depends.
[01:23] <lh317> for ruby, i'd imagine the answer is probably, but I haven't tried it.
[01:23] <lh317> anyway, add unstable to your apt.sources.list below breezy, and possibly pin that one package.
[01:24] <raf1hh> thanks, will give it a try
[01:25] <lh317> obviosuly, if you break it, I point and laugh and you keep the pieces ;)
[01:25] <raf1hh> thank god for VMWare snapshots :-p
[01:25] <lh317> indeed.
[01:26] <raf1hh> lh317: thanks for the help again
[01:26] <lh317> np
[02:31] <tarvid> In the thinking stage but I want to shape outgoing traffic.
[02:32] <tarvid> I have recently realized I cannot control incoming traffix except by deferring or dropping outgoing traffic
[02:32] <tarvid> In particular, downloads are screwing up my VOIP traffic
[02:32] <tarvid> any wisdom?


[12:11] <tepsipakki> gnome-screensaver bugs down to 53
[12:13] <tepsipakki> time to sleep
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64054 in wammu (universe) "Read Message from handy crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64054
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64055 in firefox (main) "Opening bookmark folder closes open tabs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64055
[12:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64056 in update-notifier (main) "[Edgy]  "Restart required" dialog localization broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64056
[12:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64052 in python2.5 (main) "[edgy]  /usr/bin/python2.5-config fails without python2.5-dev installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64052
[12:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64053 in kde-guidance (main) "does not recognize ibook as a laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64053
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64057 in firefox (main) "On certain page, after print preview, can't select text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64057
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64058 in debian-installer (main) "[edgy beta]  non-English install skips keyboard detection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64058
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64059 in zapata (universe) "Wrong device-names in udev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64059
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64060 in backstep (universe) "Clean up packaging for backstep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64060
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64061 in Ubuntu "openoffice crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64061
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64062 in ubiquity (main) "bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64062
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64063 in Ubuntu "USB CD-Writer speeds reported incorrectly in nautilus-cd-writer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64063
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64065 in wine (universe) "Missing build depends: libhal-dev, libhal-storage-dev, libgphoto2-2-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64065
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64066 in xfig (universe) "Stop filling circles when displaying rotated text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64066
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64064 in Ubuntu ""Run Application" dialog does not run applications in ~/bin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64064
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64067 in coreutils (main) "a progress bar for 'cp' and 'mv'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64067
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64068 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus spatial should use friendly names on it's navigation." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64068
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64069 in ruby-defaults (main) "Gnome Art manager crashes and doesn't respond" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64069
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64070 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "suspend/resume porblems with centrino duo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64070
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64071 in evolution (main) "Evolution components should be accessible in the menus." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64071
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64073 in ecj-bootstrap (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64073
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64074 in menu-xdg (main) "Recursion in Desktop Entries." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64074
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64075 in amarok (main) "amarok can't play flac" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64075
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64076 in Ubuntu "Can't install from Edgy CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64076
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64077 in beagle (main) "beagle crashes seconds after login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64077
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64078 in Ubuntu "rights problem !!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64078
[02:02] <bddebian> Boo
[02:37] <tom47> is anyone here interested in hugin issues?
[02:41] <Burgwork> tom47, you need to speak to vuntz
[02:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64081 in xorg (main) "Oops (xorg) after dapper->edgy dist-upgrade Toshiba Portege 4000    " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64081
[02:41] <tom47> Burgwork ok ty ... any ideas on how i might do that?
[02:41] <tom47> oh i see he is on here
[02:42] <tom47> hmm
[02:42] <tom47> vuntz hello :)
[02:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64082 in hotkey-setup (main) "brightness keys misfunction" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64082
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64083 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64083
[02:59] <jonh_wendell> I've created a bug report into sourceforge. How can associate it into malone's entry?
[03:00] <crimsun> which bug?
[03:00] <crimsun> LP bug, that is
[03:00] <jonh_wendell> sourceforge doesn't appear on upstream list
[03:00] <jonh_wendell> crimsun: 62957
[03:00] <crimsun> bug
[03:00] <crimsun> argh.
[03:00] <crimsun> bug 62957
[03:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62957 in liferea "Ability to copy a text" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62957
[03:02] <jonh_wendell> i've clicked on "affect upstream", but i did not found sourceforge in the list that appears
[03:02] <crimsun> please ask for it to be added in #launchpad. Otherwise they'll be able to tell you how to proceed.
[03:03] <jonh_wendell> thanks
[03:39] <ausimage> Hello I am trying to dig in to bug 58682. I am looking at the google analytics script.
[03:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58682 in galeon "Consistent Crash on Specific Pages in Edgy" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58682
[03:40] <theturtlemoves> does someone want to triage #63797 ? It seems like it should be marked to importance medium at least
[03:40] <crimsun> bug 63797
[03:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63797 in evolution-exchange "subfolders don't show in 2.8.1" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63797
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64085 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "image no longer detects some wifi cards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64085
[03:40] <ausimage> I notice in the script it checks for flash. Does anyone no if checking for flash is the same as loading flash?
[03:42] <crimsun> theturtlemoves: Importance doesn't really need to be set as long as the appropriate person/team is subbed
[03:42] <theturtlemoves> crimsun: ok, gotcha
[03:43] <ausimage> Evidently the script cycles the plugins list and checks for 'Shockwave Flash".
[03:43] <crimsun> theturtlemoves: I can sub ubuntu-desktop so that seb+daniel (et al.) will see it
[03:44] <crimsun> the team being 'desktop-bugs'
[03:44] <ausimage> Does anyone understand web browser enough to aid me?
[03:45] <crimsun> ausimage: which colour depth are you using?
[03:45] <ausimage> 24 bit
[03:46] <crimsun> will you explicitly disable the composite extension in xorg.conf and restart your display manager?
[03:47] <ausimage> how do you do that
[03:47] <ausimage> which do I comment out?
[03:47] <crimsun> Section "Extensions"   Options "composite" "false"   EndSection
[03:48] <crimsun> something along those lines; please double-check using a Web search
[03:48] <ausimage> k
[03:48] <crimsun> I'm fairly certain I made a syntax error (Option, probably)
[03:51] <jordan_> Whould this be the place to ask why a bug is still marked as unconfimred ( 62386 )?
[03:51] <crimsun> bug 62386
[03:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62386 in grub-installer "Grub install fails on intel macs." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62386
[03:52] <ausimage> crimsun: there is no section called extensions... The video card is using S3Virge driver....
[03:52] <crimsun> ausimage: you need to add one.
[03:53] <jordan_> crimson, just to be clear, in case you misred, I asked _why_ not if it was unconfermed.
[03:54] <crimsun> jordan_: your last statement is awkward and confuses me
[03:55] <crimsun> (will you restate/rephrase please?)
[03:55] <jordan_> crimson, I asked why the bug is still labeled as unconfermed, your response ( with Ubugtu ) seemed to imply you thought I was asking if it was unconfirmed.
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64072 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64072
[03:55] <crimsun> no, I was using the bot to pull the URL.
[03:56] <jordan_> Ok, just making sure :)
[03:58] <crimsun> jordan_: feel free to search the bug tracker for duplicates so that you can mark aforementioned bug confirmed
[03:59] <jordan_> crimson, I have not seen any duplicates, but the problem is well documented by all of the tutorials telling intel mac users to use LILO as grub fails to install.
[04:02] <ausimage> crimsun: my X did not like what you said to input.... I googled but did not see anything like what you wrote.
[04:03] <ausimage> crimsun: my biggest question is that it was working last weekend with its current updates then, but Monday and updates broke it again
[04:03] <crimsun> jordan_: until someone else experiences the bug and marks it such, it's normally a good idea to leave the Status be. In this case, since it's well documented, I'll set it confirmed, but you likely won't see much action on it unless you assist with referencing the necessary changes.
[04:04] <jordan_> crimson, Thank you.
[04:04] <ausimage> AND it appears now just checking the plugins can crash galeon??
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64086 in hotkey-setup (main) "DVD/wifi buttons on HP DV5215 doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64086
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64087 in hotkey-setup (main) "Print / Sleep buttons don't work on HP Pavilion DV5215" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64087
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64088 in openldap2.2 (main) "slapd won't install in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64088
[04:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64089 in xorg (main) "edgy's xserver-xorg postinst configuration runs repeatedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64089
[04:25] <ausimage> OK further searching lead to an export variable to set... that said it disabled compositing... Um now running it yield output on the commandline
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64090 in Ubuntu "Suspend to RAM stopped working after recent Dapper Kubuntu update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64090
[04:26] <ausimage> It mentions that JavaPluginfactory5 init - no agent see bug 58682 last entry
[04:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58682 in galeon "Consistent Crash on Specific Pages in Edgy" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58682
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64091 in Ubuntu "Edgy beta (kernel), minor: bootsplash scrambles screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64091
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64092 in update-manager (main) "Failed update from dapper to edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64092
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64093 in Ubuntu "Kernel message, Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64093
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64094 in pdftk (universe) "incorrect paths to header in the source package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64094
[05:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64096 in rhythmbox (main) "Podcast download fails for FLOSS weekly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64096
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64095 in cupsys (main) "Cups documentation has broken images" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64095
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64097 in inkscape (main) "Inkscape Print Dialog is too complicated." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64097
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64098 in slab (universe) "Application Browser doesn't come up." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64098
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64099 in fgfs-base (universe) "Problem launching FlightGear" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64099
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64100 in gnome-applets (main) "cpufreq-applet does not show text label for 2nd CPU" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64100
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64101 in kdebase (main) "Many Duplicate Sections in Khelpcenter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64101
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64102 in tomboy (main) "Tomboy making any ugly face at me! :/" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64102
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64103 in usb-discover (main) "USB mouse not detected on HP Pavilion DV5320" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64103
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64104 in kdeaddons (main) "Kontact News Plugin Will Not Load Missing libknodepart.la" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64104
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64106 in hotkey-setup (main) "Sleep button on HP Pavilion ZV5320 does nothing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64106
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64107 in xen-3.0 (universe) "UVF Exception request for Xen 3.0.3 RC2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64107
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64108 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed during "Downloading Package lists..."" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64108
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64109 in hotkey-setup (main) "Picture and Music buttons on HP Pavilion ZV5320 do nothing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64109
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64110 in hotkey-setup (main) "Wifi button on HP Pavilion ZV5320 do nothing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64110
[06:11] <ash211> from a triager's point of view:
[06:11] <ash211> how acceptable is it to change a bug's summary/title to better reflect the bug?
[06:14] <crimsun> absolutely encouraged.
[06:14] <crimsun> (except perhaps ubiquity ones)
[06:14] <ash211> thanks
[06:15] <ash211> is it appropriate to have the release in the title?
[06:15] <ash211> breezy/dapper/edgy
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64111 in uim (universe) "uim-common package error during installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64111
[06:17] <crimsun> ash211: sure.
[06:17] <ash211> thanks
[06:18] <ash211> just trying to get a better feel for triaging
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64112 in kompose (universe) "kompose crashes when ANY windows are open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64112
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64113 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashes when refreshing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64113
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64114 in Ubuntu "Edgy Beta 1 breaks X on Neomagic chipset" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64114
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64115 in xfwm4 (main) "black active window when returning from screensaver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64115
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64116 in ruby-defaults (main) "gem install postgres failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64116
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64118 in Ubuntu "no MGA 200 support in Edgy Eft Beta Kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64118
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64119 in Ubuntu "add/remove ati binary package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64119
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64120 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel dead-locked after apt-get upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64120
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64121 in xorg (main) "Edgy & Dapper: Lower Resolution on one account interferes with another" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64121
[08:26] <ash211> do duplicate bugs get marked rejected?
[08:26] <ash211> or the status of the original bug
[08:27] <Hobbsee> ash211: no, dupes just get marked as dupes
[08:28] <Hobbsee> so you can leave them as unconfirmed, or whatever
[08:28] <Hobbsee> they dont show up with the searching, usually
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64122 in popularity-contest (main) "Duplicated HOSTID in popcon" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64122
[08:37] <ash211> suppose a bug is in a package in universe
[08:37] <ash211> is it alright to subscribe motu to the bug?
[08:39] <crimsun> ash211: yes, subscribing (but not assigning to) motu is fine
[08:39] <ash211> that's what i thought
[08:40] <ash211> thanks
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64123 in Ubuntu "Superblock last write time is in the future" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64123
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64124 in Ubuntu "Onboard Web Cam on Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi Laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64124
[08:42] <tepsipakki> is there someone from the German translation team present? bug 55317 needs fixing
[08:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 55317 in language-pack-gnome-de-base ""Leave Fullscreen" not correctly translated." [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/55317
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64125 in Ubuntu "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64125
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64126 in netenv (universe) "netenv menu does not interact well with upstart at boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64126
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64127 in Ubuntu "Synaptic Pad on Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi Laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64127
[08:54] <dholbach> good morning
[09:01] <tepsipakki> dholbach: morning!
[09:01] <dholbach> hey tepsipakki
[09:01] <dholbach> good work on bug triage!
[09:02] <tepsipakki> thanks
[09:03] <tepsipakki> I'll concentrate on my own reported bugs for a while.. need to patch apt-setup etc
[09:06] <Slant_> dholbach: My patch was rejected by Scott. It was an odd rejection. He said I didn't document what the point was, even-though I did in the changelog.
[09:07] <dholbach> maybe we should discuss it on ubuntu-devel@
[09:07] <dholbach> i'm in a meeting currently, so please don't expect me to reply within seconds :)
[09:10] <tepsipakki> hmm, is hibernation on thinkpads broken atm?
[09:12] <tepsipakki> ah, can't find swap
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64128 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati (main) "ati/radeon driver has issues with resolution of external displays" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64128
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64129 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "IPW3945 makes system unstable after sleep -> wakeup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64129
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64130 in nautilus (main) "Cannot create a file by right clicking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64130
[09:48] <tepsipakki> ha, yet another nautilus-dupe
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64131 in update-manager (main) "software sources dialogue missing accels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64131
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64132 in update-manager (main) "update-manager dont start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64132
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64133 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "CPU not detected on a Compaq Proliant 3000 dual P II 400 Mhz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64133
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64134 in gxine (universe) "inactive close button in about dialog " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64134
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64135 in gxine (universe) "xscreensaver interaction" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64135
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64136 in gxine (universe) "do not show splashscreen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64136
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64137 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "Edgy RC needs new Human GDM theme" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64137
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64138 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "Edgy RC needs new Human wallpaper" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64138
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64139 in ubuntu-docs (main) "[doc.ubuntu.com]  Ubuntu Installation Guide - Refers to 6.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64139
[10:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64140 in ubuntu-docs (main) "[help.ubuntu.com]  6.10 Tab/Page Needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64140
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64141 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crached when in a folder with video files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64141
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64142 in ubiquity (main) "installer - ready to install- screen incomplete" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64142
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64143 in kaffeine (main) "Kaffeine doesn't manage audio channels on AVI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64143
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64144 in Ubuntu "disks-admin crashes on startup " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64144
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64145 in Ubuntu "KDesktop crashes on startup of Kubuntu 6.10 Beta Desktop CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64145
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64146 in libgphoto2 (main) ""Could not claim the IO device": Canon IXUS 65, Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64146
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64147 in usplash (main) "usplash stretched up on iMac G5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64147
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64148 in ubiquity (main) "Installation failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64148
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64149 in docbook-website (universe) "Tech support is too hard to find" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64149
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64150 in update-manager (main) "When closing it reports a warning..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64150
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64151 in ubiquity (main) "No information displayed when installing on wrong partition type" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64151
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64152 in fetchmail (main) "fetchmailconf: Fails with Message "Not matched in class `Server' signature: ['dns'] " on second run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64152
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64155 in sound-juicer (main) "sound juicer should warn for jitter errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64155
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64156 in adept (main) "adept crash - Kubuntu Edgy Beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64156
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64157 in ubiquity (main) "installer crash (all the time)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64157
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64159 in Ubuntu "gksu "update-manager -c -d"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64159
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64158 in foobillard (universe) "Foobillard crashes while exiting (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64158
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64160 in gnome-keyring-manager (main) "Cannot get rid of it..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64160
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64161 in foobillard (universe) "Foobillard won't start after editing options" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64161
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64162 in nicotine (universe) "URL in description is outdated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64162
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64163 in kdepim (main) "Kmail crashes when subscription window for IMAP is invoked" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64163
[01:59] <coyctecm> hi folks
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64164 in apt-listchanges (main) "displays changes despite frontend=mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64164
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64166 in initramfs-tools (main) "initramfs-tools Dapper->Edgy upgrade fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64166
[02:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64168 in Ubuntu "KDE clipboard used with Openoffice does not support Umlauts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64168
[02:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64170 in tetex-bin (main) "should use Debian default browser (/etc/alternatives/x-www-browser)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64170
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64171 in usplash (main) "Colors look bad " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64171
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64172 in xorg (main) "Doesn't upgrade from Dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64172
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64173 in network-manager (main) "Wireless network keeps reconnecting (ubuntu edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64173
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64174 in Ubuntu "GUI doesn't appear on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64174
[03:17] <tuxmaniac> bug 64130
[03:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64130 in nautilus "Cannot create a file by right clicking" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64130
[03:17] <tuxmaniac> bug 64078
[03:17] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64078 in Ubuntu "rights problem !!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64078
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64175 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "[edgy]  reverts to kubuntu's usplash at each upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64175
[03:31] <kristog> dholbach: do you rememeber the bluez-utils bug?
[03:32] <dholbach> kristog: yes
[03:32] <kristog> in debian we have a newer version.
[03:32] <kristog> should i sync it? or try to fix the ubuntu bug?
[03:32] <dholbach> I know - you wanted to look into the merge, right?
[03:32] <kristog> yes.
[03:32] <dholbach> syncing will override our changes
[03:39] <kristog> dholbach: uhm i will update our (as ubuntu) patch if needed.
[03:40] <dholbach> kristog: so merge the two packages?
[03:40] <kristog> yes
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64176 in ubiquity (main) "Installer from LiveCD ubuntu 6.10 edgy crashes in HW-Detection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64176
[03:42] <kristog> dholbach: for t-gabble3.10 i should write another UVF or i can use the old one ??
[03:43] <dholbach> kristog: is the breakage fixed now?
[03:43] <kristog> no, the bug is in t-python.
[03:44] <dholbach> kristog: aha
[03:44] <dholbach> well... however you like it
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64177 in Ubuntu "Installation of Edgy on external USB disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64177
[03:53] <pschulz01> bug 64179
[03:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64179 in hwdb-client "Mistake in documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64179
[03:53] <pschulz01> Easy one to tiage..patch attached.
[03:55] <gnomefreak> night
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64179 in hwdb-client (main) "Mistake in documentation" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64179
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64180 in grub (main) "Default kernel is 386 in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64180
[04:02] <kristog> dholbach: what is the best way for merge/sync debian/changelog?
[04:05] <dholbach> if we can drop our changes: no need to merge - else you can either drop our changes to the changelog and just sum up the remaining changes, or you can properly merge them and sort by date.
[04:06] <dholbach> seb128: doing vino update
[04:07] <seb128> dholbach: #ubuntu-desktop topic rather, ok ;)
[04:07] <dholbach> seb128: kristog raised it here - thanks for correcting ME :-P
[04:08] <seb128> :)
[04:10] <dholbach> oh, you meant vino
[04:10] <dholbach> sorry - I meant to say that in #u-desktop
[04:10] <dholbach> lalalal
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64181 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice - Font does not appear on top of the list when selected directly by keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64181
[04:10] <dholbach> well, it fixes bugs - so not wrong here ;-)
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64183 in php-net-smtp (universe) "Recommends non-existent php-auth-sasl package " [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64183
[04:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64184 in dash (main) "HOSTNAME not set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64184
[04:27] <kristog> dholbach: uhm the new package in debian, needs a new libbluetooth i guess it's better to fix the actual version in edgy
[04:27] <dholbach> ok - if we can make that happen... cool
[04:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64186 in 3ddesktop (universe) "3ddesk Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64186
[04:37] <_ion> Does anyone still use 3ddesktop since compiz was released? :-)
[04:37] <kristog> haha
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64185 in moc (universe) "application hangs with an error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64185
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64187 in 3ddesktop (universe) "3ddesk Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64187
[04:49] <kristog> dholbach: fixed
[04:50] <dholbach> woah
[04:50] <dholbach> where - you have a debdiff?
[04:51] <kristog> no, only diff.gz and dsc
[04:51] <kristog> wait
[04:51] <kristog> btw, ubuntu gives some service for ubuntu members like people.debian.org?
[04:51] <kristog> (people.ubuntu.com is redirected to ubuntu.com)
[04:52] <dholbach> unfortunately not, that's just for canonical employees :-/
[04:54] <Riddell> it was named before ubuntu was an open project, it should have been people.canonical
[04:54] <Riddell> of course you can keep as much as you like in bzr on launchpad
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64189 in libpam-krb5 (universe) "UVF: please sync from debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64189
[05:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64188 in gnome-orca (main) "Enabling Orca breaks Gnome on Edgy LiveCD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64188
[05:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64190 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Xubuntu gdm shouldn't offer to run default gnome session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64190
[05:11] <tuxmaniac> bug 64048
[05:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64048 in linux-source-2.6.17 "LiveCD doesn't boot on Averatec 2460 Intel Core Duo, RTL8139 NIC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64048
[05:12] <tuxmaniac> bug 64078 :|
[05:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64078 in Ubuntu "rights problem !!" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64078
[05:46] <tomveens> hello
[05:46] <tomveens> like bugs?, I got a bug I think
[05:46] <ogra> file it then :)
[05:48] <tomveens> do not really know how to file it. Problem is : cannot fill in the gateway in edgy beta with the graphical network tool. When I get out of the tool, and enter it again, the gateway adrs is gone.
[05:50] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[05:50] <tomveens> it is in edgy beta, I was wondering Why I couldn't find the bug because it is essential in entering the internet
[05:51] <tomveens> I'll try to make something out of it
[05:51] <tomveens> but find it a little strange
[05:51] <Adri2000> tomveens: you need a launchpad account, then https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug, the package is network-admin
[05:54] <tomveens> I have an account but thanx about pointing to the package name
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64192 in ubiquity (main) "Intaller crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64192
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64193 in gnome-system-tools (main) "edgy beta does not set static default route" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64193
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64194 in firefox (main) "Ubuntu package search plugin searches for packages in dapper instead of edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64194
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64195 in udev (main) "udevd is trying to connect to LDAP but there is none short after udev was started" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64195
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64196 in evolution (main) "Crash when double-clicking on WebEx .ics file (open in Calendar)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64196
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64197 in mythtv (multiverse) "Remove mythtv-debug " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64197
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64198 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "LiveCD can't start X on Apple Xserve" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64198
[06:19] <kristog> slytherin: it works for you?
[06:20] <slytherin> kristog: works what?
[06:20] <kristog> hcitool
[06:20] <tuxmaniac> Fracture> ??
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64200 in language-support-en (main) "language-support-en depends on thunderbird-locale-en-gb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64200
[06:21] <Fracture> tuxmaniac> ??
[06:21] <tuxmaniac> Fracture> Sorry thought it to be some other channel
[06:21] <slytherin> kristog: There doesn't seem to be any solution for hcitool as of now. But the discussion was like, 'this may be related to absense of password-agent' (the bug that you fixed)
[06:21] <tuxmaniac> :)
[06:21] <Fracture> tuxmaniac> ok
[06:22] <kristog> slytherin: no, it doesn't work with password-agent
[06:22] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> not on our home channel :( Forgot it?
[06:22] <slytherin> kristog: wait. Let me find the other bug. It actually has temporary workaround.
[06:22] <kristog> slytherin: ok
[06:22] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: Will be there after some time
[06:23] <tuxmaniac> :|
[06:23] <slytherin> kristog: bug 59222
[06:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 59222 in bluez-utils "Computer isn't discoverable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59222
[06:24] <slytherin> kristog: The workaround mentioned works for me also.
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64199 in nautilus (main) "Cannot create empty file on desktop" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64199
[06:28] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> muahahha
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64201 in compiz (universe) "Can't install compiz/xgl on edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64201
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64202 in gajim (universe) "[Dapper]  Ctrl+backspace scrolls chat window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64202
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64203 in am-utils (universe) "can't restart with mounts in use" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64203
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64204 in debian-installer (main) "lvm install into an existing volume doesn't work on Edgy Beta amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64204
[06:46] <bddebian> Boo
[06:46] <ogra> bee
[06:46] <bddebian> :)
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64205 in thinkpad (universe) "Thinkpad-modules need to be compiled, instructions technical, needs Ubuntu-ising" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64205
[06:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64206 in tsclient (main) ""About"-window cannot be closed with "close" button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64206
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64207 in Ubuntu "Edgy eft installation crashes while updating from dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64207
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64208 in blender (universe) "no error message when dying without 3d support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64208
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64209 in apport (main) "Apport Open a not primary browser" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64209
[07:01] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: there?
[07:01] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> yep very much
[07:02] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: does bug 64206 sound familier?
[07:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64206 in tsclient ""About"-window cannot be closed with "close" button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64206
[07:02] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> =))
[07:03] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> But we are able to close gnusim8085's right?
[07:04] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: no. it was 'worksforme'
[07:04] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: looks like some problem with gtk
[07:05] <tuxmaniac> hmm
[07:05] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: Can you check this with edgy? I don't have dev environment setup for gnusim yet
[07:06] <tuxmaniac> oh you mean the gnusim8085 package on edgy?
[07:06] <tuxmaniac> Oh Ok. I have not got dev too
[07:06] <tuxmaniac> :)
[07:07] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> ^
[07:07] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: :-)
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64210 in evolution (main) "Crashes on Send / Recieve" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64210
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64211 in cohoba (universe) "Windowless borders" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64211
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64212 in gtkpod-aac (multiverse) "gtkpod bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64212
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64213 in gnome-python-extras (main) "split gtkhtml2 binding to separate binary package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64213
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64215 in adept (main) "install a/o "show details" hangs when user input is required" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64215
[07:32] <slytherin> dholbach: Is there any separate bluetooth team? I would like to join it (as tester) as I use bluetooth a lot.
[07:33] <dholbach> slytherin: nice
[07:33] <dholbach> slytherin: go ahead :-)
[07:33] <dholbach> slytherin: I just founded it ;-)
[07:33] <dholbach> and was going to announce it
[07:34] <slytherin> dholbach: I was subscribed to pages Bluetooth* on wiki and just received a mail about page you created. :-D
[07:34] <dholbach> hehe, nice
[07:36] <slytherin> dholbach: Just applied for membership.
[07:36] <dholbach> slytherin: just approved you.
[07:37] <slytherin> dholbach: Self promotion, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemoteControl is 80% my work.
[07:37] <cbx33> I wonder if there are any patterns in bug reports....like in an eco system |)
[07:37] <dholbach> slytherin: add a http://wiki.ubuntu,com/Bluetooth/Docs page and link it there
[07:37] <dholbach> slytherin: and add the CategoryBluetooth footer to it
[07:38] <slytherin> dholbach: It is not actually doc. You will understand it when you go through it. But I will still add footer.
[07:38] <_ion> (That's what i've been thinking for three years or so. )
[07:38] <dholbach> slytherin: but it's better to link it
[07:39] <tuxmaniac> dholbach> I work on BT at office :D
[07:39] <slytherin> dholbach: Sure.
[07:39] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> wiki addr?!!!!
[07:39] <dholbach> rock and roll
[07:39] <dholbach> we have such a good team
[07:39] <dholbach> I know it!
[07:39] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: to what?
[07:39] <tuxmaniac> dholbach> err.. :D
[07:39] <dholbach> I already subscribed the team to a bunch of packages
[07:39] <dholbach> so we know what's going on
[07:39] <tuxmaniac> dholbach> good team with tuxmaniac in??? No way@!!!!
[07:40] <dholbach> pffft ;-)
[07:41] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> Is the team on Launchpad?
[07:41] <tuxmaniac> :D
[07:42] <tuxmaniac> slytherin> got it
[07:42] <slytherin> tuxmaniac: Yes. https://launchpad.net/people/bluetooth
[07:46] <dholbach> welcome to the team
[07:46] <dholbach> let's get the bugs squashed for edgy release
[07:46] <dholbach> we'll make it all tidy and nice for edgy+1
[07:47] <dholbach> but for now we should focus on getting the biggest issues out of the way
[07:53] <slytherin> dholbach: problem with docs. Most of pages are already moved to h.u.c. So even with footer added they don't appear on results of CategoryBluetooth on w.u.c
[07:53] <dholbach> urg
[07:53] <dholbach> well - we can still link to them
[07:53] <Burgwork> dholbach, end user does need to be on help
[07:53] <dholbach> but good work on that already
[07:54] <slytherin> dholbach: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth/Docs
[07:54] <dholbach> Burgwork: there's always a small divide between that
[07:54] <dholbach> Burgwork: I didn't propose to move stuff
[07:54] <dholbach> slytherin: good work - thanks
[07:54] <Burgwork> those are all end user docs
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64216 in blam (universe) "Adding a feed too fast after startup crashes blam/mono" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64216
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60340 in ubuntu-website "preseed example out of date" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60340
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64217 in vino (main) "vino crash after login to gdm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64217
[08:13] <slytherin> dholbach: Burgwork: Can someone of you please create CategoryBluetooth on h.u.c?
[08:13] <dholbach> slytherin: sorry - I have no access to that.
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64218 in update-manager (main) "distribution upgrades do not play nice with apt-listchanges" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64218
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64219 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed while installing Xubuntu PPC to an external drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64219
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64220 in command-not-found (universe) "Confusing message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64220
[08:20] <Burgwork> slytherin, it is a wiki. You can edit it yourseld
[08:21] <slytherin> Burgwork: No. Someone will have to add this category to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryCategory and I don't have permission
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64222 in rhythmbox (main) "Random crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64222
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64224 in firefox (main) "[Edgy]  Bad vertical scroll-bar's look in Firefox 2.0b2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64224
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64225 in f-spot (main) "F-spot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64225
[08:44] <Burgwork> slytherin, if you login and create CategoryBluetooth, CategoryCategory will automatically update
[08:44] <Burgwork> slytherin, the help wiki is identical to the main wiki
[08:46] <slytherin> Burgwork: Sorry, but I don't know how to create category. :-(
[08:47] <Burgwork> slytherin, simply create a page with the name of CategoryBluetooth
[08:47] <Burgwork> then add CategoryCategory as the text on the page
[08:49] <slytherin> Burgwork: Done.
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64226 in Ubuntu "Edgy Beta 1: Mobility X700 on Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo M1437G" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64226
[09:04] <pradeep> g'night :)
[09:06] <slytherin> dholbach: Hi
[09:06] <dholbach> hey slytherin
[09:07] <slytherin> dholbach: Can we do anything on bug 60215 It was reported quite well before universe freeze
[09:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 60215 in bluez-btsco "update to 0.42" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60215
[09:08] <dholbach> slytherin: somebody should care to write a UVF exception report: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Processes/UVF
[09:10] <slytherin> dholbach: Let me take a look.
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64227 in glom (universe) "UVF: glom 1.1.3 -> 1.1.4" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64227
[09:14] <slytherin> dholbach: Too bad I don't know how to build packages yet. :-( So I won't be able to prepare complete UVF exception report.
[09:14] <dholbach> slytherin: compiling the general pointers for it is a good start
[09:15] <dholbach> slytherin: maybe somebody in #ubuntu-motu can assist?
[09:16] <slytherin> dholbach: I think I will try it tomorrow. Getting sleepy. :-)
[09:17] <dholbach> me too
[09:17] <dholbach> I call it a day now
[09:23] <dholbach> have a nice evening! see you tomorrow!
[09:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64228 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice Base on Edgy Database Wizard wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64228
[09:28] <dholbach> sfllaw: good work on the triaging pages
[09:29] <sfllaw> dholbach: Thanks.  It takes a long time to write those.
[09:29] <sfllaw> :(
[09:29] <dholbach> I can imagine
[09:29] <dholbach> we should add an overview over active ubuntu teams somewhere
[09:29] <sfllaw> Yeah.
[09:29] <zul> sfllaw: hire a co-op student so you can dictate it
[09:29] <sfllaw> zul: It's not the typing that's slow.
[09:30] <sfllaw> It's organizing the jumble of thoughts in my head.
[09:30] <zul> ah
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64229 in control-center (main) "Edgy multimedia keys regression" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64229
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64230 in Ubuntu "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64230
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64231 in update-manager (main) "update-manager doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64231
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64232 in nautilus (main) "crash refreshing the root directory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64232
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64234 in monodoc (main) "monodoc-browser should not recommend lynx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64234
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64235 in Ubuntu "alt-tab behaviour in Ubuntu Dapper " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64235
[09:59] <gnomefreak> can someone try to confirm bug 61960 on edgy. this is a fairly old bug that i filed and still nothing
[09:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61960 in peacock "[Edgy]  peacock crashes when opening new project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/61960
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64237 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "bcm43xx driver seems to crash when using network manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64237
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64238 in foomatic-filters-ppds (main) "HP 4240 and 4250 ppd files appear to have syntax errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64238
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64239 in usplash (main) "colors look like if they are inverterted (ThinkPad T60)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64239
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64240 in totem (main) "totem-xine uninstalles totem and ubuntu-desktop because it is a lower version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64240
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64241 in mplayer (multiverse) "can't create mcop directory / unable to play sound as another user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64241
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64242 in maxima (universe) "ship working maxima for ppc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64242
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64243 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Power button presses are not detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64243
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64244 in kdebase (main) "Reading a bad PPD file causes KDE not to read _any_ PPD file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64244
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64246 in usplash (main) "usplash not showing on edgy ppc on powerbook g4 17" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64246
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64245 in kubuntu-docs (main) "Kubuntu Desktop Guide - Video/Kino Using Ubuntu Menu Structure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64245
[10:53] <LaschW> anyone saw Xorg/gdm falling back to vga resolution after a gdm restart / start of a second X session? I have this since the X upgrade to 7.1..
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64247 in usplash (main) "No Sound on Edgy PPC on Powerbook G4 17 (alsa? snd-aoa?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64247
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64248 in usplash (main) "No Network on Edgy Desktop CD PPC on PowerBook G4 17" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64248
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64249 in usplash (main) "Usplash doesn't work in a fresh install from "Edgy Beta Alternate cd ppc"." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64249
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64250 in Ubuntu "edgy boot halt" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64250
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64252 in mono (main) "Reflector doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64252
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64254 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed on compaq presario v3000t" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64254
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #64253 in Ubuntu "dpkg: error processing python-gobject (--configure)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/64253


[13:31] <ginggs> tseliot: any ideas why nvidia-cuda-toolkit is not installable? see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eztrace-contrib/1.1-7-1 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hwloc-contrib/1.11.8-1
[13:34]  * tseliot lookinh
[13:34] <tseliot> *looking
[13:35] <tseliot> ginggs: something probably broke in bionic. I'm creating a chroot to check that out
[14:07] <ginggs> tseliot: thanks
[14:16] <tseliot> ginggs: apt-get build-dep eztrace works fine in the chroot
[14:17] <tseliot> maybe the archive was temporarily broken?
[14:19] <ginggs> tseliot: i gave them back an hour ago, and they've been retried a few times in the last 3 weeks
[14:20] <tseliot> not a good sign...
[14:20] <rbalint> juliank: apt-daily.service does not have to forward signals to u-u per design, u-u-s.service signals u-u, apt-daily.service just must not let all the child processes to be killed
[14:20] <juliank> rbalint: But I want it to. Everything else is just a bad user experience.
[14:21] <juliank> rbalint: Not only that, it also breaks the locking between the two apt-daily services
[14:22] <juliank> heck, it might even allow you to start apt-daily while u-u is still running from a previous apt-daily-upgrade job, considering that systemd considers apt-daily-upgrade to be inactive at that point.
[14:24] <rbalint> juliank: i'm speeding up the SRU for u-u to accept SIGTERM if you would like to send the signal
[14:24] <rbalint> juliank: would that work for you?
[14:25] <juliank> rbalint: I'd mostly like to avoid the dependencies between the SRUs. zesty is in sync with stretch, it would be nice to keep it that way (and I want to make it work in stretch too, so I need the SIGUSR1 dance for that)
[14:27] <rbalint> juliank: i'm not sure what problem would be caused by starting apt-daily while apt-daily-upgrade is running
[14:28] <juliank> I'm not sure either, but they were not designed to be run together.
[14:28] <juliank> There are probably some race conditions in there.
[14:28] <rbalint> juliank: i can do a stretch update, too, to u-u if that helps
[14:29] <juliank> I don't think the Debian RT would accept that.
[14:29] <rbalint> juliank: as i see apt-daily does nothing that breaks apt-daily-upgrade thus we may be trying to fix something that nevar causes actual problems
[14:30] <juliank> It definitely replaces your Packages files, so depending on how far u-u is, it might get problems parsing stuff.
[14:30] <juliank> Or you might just end up with lock races between the two
[14:30] <juliank> The locking situation is a bit unclear.
[14:31] <rbalint> juliank: as i saw the lock is held in u-u thus apt-daily may just fail, but have to check to be sure
[14:32] <juliank> There are 4 locks involved, and one lock is repeatedly released.
[14:33] <juliank> The apt code is almost 2 decades old and nobody has a clear picture of which locks are hold when
[14:33] <rbalint> juliank: ok.
[14:34] <rbalint> juliank: u-u handles failure gracefully in artful and up so with the backport i don't think we need signaling from apt's scripts
[14:35] <rbalint> juliank: apt-daily failing is also ok IMO
[14:36] <juliank> I guess even if I signal u-u from apt's script, it's not going to be a regression, it's just setup work.
[14:36] <juliank> So we would not _really_ need dependencies between those two
[14:37] <juliank> It's just that if you upgrade from e.g. 1.5 to 1.5.2 that nothing changes
[14:37] <juliank> but as soon as you upgrade u-u as well, everything works as expected.
[14:39] <rbalint> juliank: sending a signal which kills u-u instead of triggering the graceful termination would cause serious regressions
[14:39] <juliank> Compared to just terminating the entire cgroup?
[14:40] <juliank> Currently we terminate the script, u-u, and all children
[14:40] <juliank> the current "broken" fix is only in -proposed.
[14:40] <rbalint> juliank: no, comparing to exiting in apt's scripts
[14:41] <juliank> Right, but that's irrelevant seeing as that is only in proposed and has not made it to updates.
[14:42] <rbalint> juliank: can i help moving it to release?
[14:43] <juliank> Well, sure if you mark the bug as verified-done, it's basically releasable. Well, xenial needs one more test for bug 1613184 as the specified one does not apply.
[14:44] <juliank> But I don't really feel good about it
[14:44] <rbalint> juliank: ok, let me take a second look and mark it as such
[14:44] <juliank> You also have to change the testing scenario for the u-u bug
[14:44] <juliank> because it says that stopping apt-daily-upgrade waits until u-u exits
[14:44] <rbalint> juliank: yes, the test is wrong
[14:44] <juliank> but it stops immediately.
[14:45] <juliank> I would have never merged the patch if I had known that it does not work that way.
[14:46] <juliank> I mean, the whole timeout thing is nonsense.
[14:46] <juliank> I expected it to actually work as specified.
[14:47] <rbalint> juliank: let me follow up in the bug
[14:48] <rbalint> juliank: the after a timeout everything gets killed and upgrades can be slow, thus both the timeout and killing only the top process is a must :-\
[14:49] <juliank> I don't think it does anything.
[14:49] <rbalint> juliank: ?
[14:49] <juliank> I mean, the service is considered stopped as soon as the script exits, which is immediately.
[14:50] <juliank> so it already reaches the point we are measuring the timeout for immediately.
[14:51] <rbalint> juliank: yes, the timeout starts ticking immediately for killing all children, but how is this a problem?
[14:52] <juliank> The timeout starts when you say stop (and also when you say start).
[14:52] <juliank> But then the service is stopped immediately
[14:52] <juliank> So I don't see how the timeout would work
[14:52] <rbalint> juliank: btw instead of signaling you could use u-u --stop-only form 0.98
[14:53] <rbalint> s/form/from/
[14:53] <juliank> Most of our targets are < 0.98?
[14:53] <juliank> and on 0.98: unattended-upgrade: error: no such option: --stop-only
[14:54] <rbalint> juliank: sorry, u-u-s
[14:55] <rbalint> juliank: the timeout should prevent killing all running children of the exited service immediately
[14:55] <juliank> What I'm saying is that the timeout should never be elapsing anyway, so nobody will get killed.
[14:55] <juliank> ever.
[14:56] <juliank> Well, at least not if you are stopping.
[14:56] <juliank> Ah it is a TimeoutStopSec
[14:56] <juliank> So yes, you say stop within 900s
[14:56] <juliank> but stopping just stops the script.
[14:56] <juliank> hence it stops immediately.
[14:56] <rbalint> juliank: yes
[14:57] <juliank> I don't see the 900s coming into effect if systemd says the service is stopped immediately.
[14:57] <juliank> because 0 < 900
[14:59] <rbalint> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.kill.html
[15:01] <juliank> Ah you mean "If then, after a delay (configured via the TimeoutStopSec= option), processes still remain, the termination request is repeated with the SIGKILL signal (unless this is disabled via the SendSIGKILL= option)"
[15:01] <rbalint> juliank: yes
[15:02] <juliank> let's see
[15:02] <rbalint> juliank: and i think the documentation is a bit vague, and the "main" process is geussed based on rules that may end up considering u-u the main process and this case I did not want to have it SIGKILL's immediately
[15:04] <rbalint> juliank: so the timeout is a bit of playing safe because the semantics and promises on systemd's side were not crystal-clear
[15:04] <juliank> It actually does not terminate anything
[15:05] <juliank> I just configured the service with a 5s timeout
[15:05] <juliank> added sleep 10000 or something
[15:05] <juliank> stopped it
[15:05] <juliank> sleep is still running
[15:05] <juliank> it's considered:    Active: failed (Result: signal) since Thu 2017-11-23 16:04:10 CET; 1min 11s ago
[15:05] <juliank> So the doc is wrong
[15:06] <rbalint> juliank: do you have your test case?
[15:07] <juliank> I just changed TimeOutStopSec= to 5, and added a sleep after the whole lock checking thing into the script
[15:07] <juliank> Output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26028356/
[15:07] <rbalint> juliank: i need to check again but i say timeout taking effect in one of the logs while testing the u-u fix
[15:08] <juliank> rbalint: Maybe you saw the u-u-s timeout?
[15:09] <rbalint> juliank: most likely
[15:09] <juliank> The point remains that the patch for apt does not do what it looks like it does.
[15:09] <rbalint> juliank: but my bigger concert was systemd picking u-u as the main process despite being a children of apt's script
[15:12] <juliank> rbalint: sorry, I gotta ask: is your n near your t or do you just write concert (as opposed to concern) a lot? Because that seems a really funny typo (and I don't know your keyboard layout) ;)
[15:13] <juliank> I have no idea how the pid guessing works
[15:14] <juliank> Sleep is still running, BTW
[15:14] <rbalint> juliank: n->t :-D
[15:14] <juliank> so it really seems to have no effect :)
[15:15] <juliank> um, :(
[15:16] <rbalint> juliank: if you decide to go with u-u-s --stop-only in later releases instead of just sending a signal timeout will become useful
[15:16] <juliank> I think I want the signal forwarding for the other executed programs too
[15:16] <rbalint> juliank: but yeah now it does not seem to have effect
[15:17] <juliank> my idea was just to stay with SIGUSR1 for zesty and below. I don't know how you plan to SRU them
[15:17] <rbalint> juliank: the n->t is brobably due to a funny muscle memory caused by hunger and a screaming baby behind my back :-)
[15:18] <juliank> I think you once wanted to just push 0.98 everywhere, but I'm not sure that's still the plan.
[15:18] <juliank> I think someone said no
[15:20] <rbalint> juliank: i could not visit the u-u SRU because i got stuff assigned with higher priorities :-\
[15:21] <rbalint> juliank: IMO there is absolutely no need to signal u-u from apt's scripts because u-u.service does the signaling upon shutdown and in 0.98 it works well finally
[15:22] <juliank> Look, all I want is systemctl stop apt-daily-upgrade to wait until the service is really stopped.
[15:22] <rbalint> juliank: if you really want to send signals anyway please don't send them upon upgrade of apt
[15:22] <rbalint> juliank: you mean stop when u-u is exited, too?
[15:23] <juliank> yes.
[15:23] <juliank> I don't want runaway processes.
[15:23] <juliank> It's ugly to have one service with runaway processes and another cleaning them up
[15:23] <rbalint> juliank: ok, then please keep the timeout and use u-u --stop-only which does wait for you
[15:24] <rbalint> juliank: i plan backporting that part for sure to not break on hibernation
[15:24] <rbalint> juliank: u-u-s --stop-only
[15:25] <juliank> Then I can just trap "u-u-s --stop-only" SIGTERM I think
[15:25] <juliank> before running u-u
[15:25] <rbalint> juliank: also please don't send signal when upgrading apt
[15:26] <juliank> why should I send a signal when upgrading apt?
[15:26] <juliank> I mean, it used to restart the service when upgrading
[15:26] <juliank> but that was a long time ago
[15:27] <juliank> fixed almost a year ago :)
[15:27] <rbalint> juliank: ok, then np :-)
[15:27] <juliank> Can you backport the stop-only to stretch as well? That would be vastly useful then I think.
[15:27] <juliank> I'll start with bionic and artful
[15:28] <juliank> The patches for the next artful SRU are collected already :)
[15:28] <rbalint> juliank: yes, i plan fixing stretch, too
[15:28] <rbalint> juliank: i'm sorry i have to grab something to ead
[15:28] <rbalint> eat
[15:28] <juliank> Then in the worst case, all you get is an error message about unsupported --stop-only if you upgrade apt before you upgrade u-u there and in <= zesty :)
[15:29] <juliank> OK
[15:29]  * juliank does not really eat during the day, he gets sleepy afterwards
[15:34] <juliank> Ew, I still need to forward SIGTERM from the outer apt.systemd.daily invocation to the inner.
[15:34] <juliank> (locking in) shell sucks
[15:35] <juliank> Maybe I should just not do the whole subprocess dance just to avoid fd 3 with a lock file being around.
[15:36] <juliank>     # We hold the lock.  Rerun this script as a child process, which
[15:36] <juliank>     # can run without propagating an extra fd to all of its children.
[15:36] <juliank> ^ this stuff
[15:36] <juliank> My fear is that it leaks into an apt hook or something and never gets released.
[15:59] <cpaelzer> what is the most clear way for one of many autopkgtests in a d/t/control  to say "not on this arch"?
[15:59] <cpaelzer> I'm looking for the restrictions spec but it hides from me
[16:00] <cpaelzer> so recomendations welcome
[16:02] <cpaelzer> pitti: in case you are around, I'm sure you knopw :-) ^^
[16:02] <doko> afaik that's not possible. so add a if dpkg --print-architecture ...; then in the test
[16:02] <pitti> cpaelzer: there is currently no declarative Architecture: field; your test has to ... that
[16:02] <juliank> I don't see anything in the doc either
[16:03] <cpaelzer> ok, thanks
[16:03] <cpaelzer> unfortunate that this is a Test-Command :-)
[16:03] <cpaelzer> but ok, I know where to change it
[16:03] <juliank> Maybe we should have an architecture field?
[16:03] <pitti> cpaelzer: you can add an if [ arch ] there, too
[16:03] <pitti> cpaelzer: OOI, what's your use case?
[16:04] <pitti> (usually feature tests are preferrable to architecture tests)
[16:04] <cpaelzer> bug 1734148
[16:04] <cpaelzer> I have a generic solution for 2/3
[16:04] <cpaelzer> but for the remaining one I need to mask it on s390x for now
[16:05] <pitti> in the past we usually solved that by resetting the "ever passed" flag and moved it to "always failed"
[16:05] <cpaelzer> I'm so close to make this work, now I want to solve it :-)
[16:05] <cpaelzer> test coverage FTW
[16:06] <pitti> adding an Architecture: restriction to mask a broken test seems wrong  to me, particualrly as the test is not intrinsically invalid on s390x?
[16:06] <cpaelzer> on this particular case I want to mask it because I give up on recteating
[16:06] <cpaelzer> so not the best example to discuss such a restriction
[16:07] <pitti> right, understandable - but making it an alwaysfail seems preferrable to me than hacking the source?
[16:07] <pitti> (or more simply, a force-badtest britney hint)
[16:07] <cpaelzer> pitti: this has 14 tests, 13 work
[16:07] <cpaelzer> so masking the one in s390x gives coverage of 13
[16:08] <cpaelzer> and a hint will just make it go undetected
[16:08] <pitti> ah, ok
[16:08] <pitti> so [ `uname -m` = s390x ] || .. it is?
[16:08] <cpaelzer> yep that is what I'm writing atm
[16:08] <cpaelzer> in the Test-command
[16:09] <xnox> dpkg --print-architecture
[16:09] <xnox> is my choice usually =))))) hehe
[17:23] <rbalint> juliank: i get sleepy, too, when i eat sugar and similar carbs, so i don't do that ;-)
[17:24] <juliank> I do eat some cashews
[17:24] <juliank> brain power!
[18:03] <NikTh> Hi, any clue why this build has failed ? https://goo.gl/YvqqPQ
[18:10] <mdeslaur> missing #include <errno.h> ?
[18:21] <NikTh> mdeslaur: maybe this has something to do ? https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9162433 .I couldn't find any other relevant patch.
[18:22] <mdeslaur> NikTh: what are you trying to build exactly?
[18:23] <juliank> mdeslaur: Job: linux_4.14.0-10.201711231748.dsc the log says
[18:23] <juliank> it failed building a userspace tool
[18:23] <juliank> or well, libunwind
[18:25] <NikTh> juliank: and only on i386.
[18:30] <juliank> NikTh: Anyhow, probably missing include
[18:33] <juliank> but no, there is an #include <errno.h>
[18:35] <mdeslaur> NikTh: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/unstable.git/commit/tools/perf/arch/x86/util/unwind-libunwind.c?id=4443d3b93af3c511e07cfc572803ebfa1f2b1c36
[18:36] <mdeslaur> NikTh: do you have that?
[18:40] <NikTh> mdeslaur: I think you found it! This is great. Let me try building with again, but I'm quite sure that's the solution.
[18:40] <NikTh> mdeslaur: Thank you very much !
[18:40] <mdeslaur> np
[21:52] <_9_aleksandr_9_> Hello. I am new Ubuntu user. At the first time when I started Ubuntu from usb flash in live mode I had not problems. Installer had not saw any hard drives. He saw only usb flash. But when I tried to turn on my PC again from usb flash for installing Ubuntu installer not started. I have saw it http://qoo.by/3133 (the link contains also photos of bios).
[21:53] <juliank> _9_aleksandr_9_: hi, you might want to go to #ubuntu for user support
[21:54] <juliank> _9_aleksandr_9_: this channel is for development of ubuntu :)
[21:56] <_9_aleksandr_9_> juliank: Unfortunately they don't help me. Maybe you can help. If yes I will be thankful)
[22:00] <juliank> _9_aleksandr_9_: I'm over in #ubuntu now, that's the appropriate forum to discuss this
[22:06] <_9_aleksandr_9_> juliank: Ok. I am in #ubuntu also
[22:35] <_9_aleksandr_9_> juliank: please watch my video in #ubuntu or ##linux
[22:56] <cesdo> https://youtu.be/1VvCFWWt6-s