[00:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1497 Release pocket
[00:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1679 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity8-desktop-session). Pending binary packages (yakkety/lightdm). Successfully built (vivid/lightdm, vivid/ubuntu-touch-session, vivid/unity8, vivid/unity8-desktop-session, xenial/lightdm, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/unity8, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, yakkety/ubuntu-touch-session, yakkety/unity8)
[00:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1962 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[00:08] <justinmcp_> trainguards: choo choo
[00:08] <robru> justinmcp_: woo woo
[00:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Currently building (vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service). Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app)
[00:09] <justinmcp_> robru: hey :), could I get a default Oxide source package copied into 1823 please?
[00:09] <robru> justinmcp_: what do you mean default?
[00:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1988 Failed to build (vivid/indicator-network, xenial/indicator-network). Successfully built (yakkety/indicator-network)
[00:10] <justinmcp_> if only I had the answer, I assume its this, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/oxide-qt
[00:10] <justinmcp_> but it could be the wily one
[00:11] <justinmcp_> but I also mean, one that is currently shipping - ie not any modifications by myself
[00:12] <robru> justinmcp_: so, you're wanting the same version that customers have in your PPA? why, what problem are you trying to solve?
[00:13] <justinmcp_> at some point a BIC was merged in, due to circumstance, the silo was created before that, but not ready to be checked until after
[00:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Dependency wait (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension). Failed to build (xenial/signon-apparmor-extension, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[00:14] <justinmcp_> now I need an Oxide in there so that it can be built with the new MH interface
[00:14] <robru> justinmcp_: BIC? so your PPA has an old version of oxide in it?
[00:14] <justinmcp_> but is otherwise unchanged
[00:14] <justinmcp_> there is no oxide added to the ticket
[00:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh marcustomlinson gary-wzl charles xavigarcia, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1791 Needs rebuild due to burned version number (vivid/signon-plugin-oauth2, xenial/signon-plugin-oauth2). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/account-plugins, yakkety/keeper, yakkety/mcloud, yakkety/net-cpp, yakkety/signon-plugin-oauth2, yakkety/storage-framework). Successfully built (vivid/account-plugins, vivid/keeper, vivid/mcloud, vivid/net-
[00:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1992 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/account-plugins). Successfully built (vivid/account-plugins, xenial/account-plugins)
[00:15] <robru> justinmcp_: it's not clear to me what's going on here. If your build depends on the version of oxide that is shipped to customers, it should be getting that from the overlay PPA. I don't see what it would accomplish to also copy it into your PPA.
[00:16] <justinmcp_> Oxide depends on MH, not the otherway
[00:16] <justinmcp_> for that ticket to be accepted, tests need to be run with Oxide - but because of the binary break it wont work
[00:16] <justinmcp_> without a recompile
[00:16] <robru> ooooooooh
[00:16] <robru> ok
[00:17] <robru> now I'm starting to get it
[00:17] <robru> justinmcp_: specifically for vivid? or for all three?
[00:17] <justinmcp_> I dont know, its probably all three
[00:18] <robru> justinmcp_: ok gimme a sec to copy that in
[00:18] <robru> justinmcp_: well, wait, that ticket needs a rebuild. will oxide need to be rebuilt a second time after you rebuild or is the one rebuild good enough?
[00:19] <robru> (eg you're changing ABI but the ABI will be stable for the rest of the ticket lifetime?)
[00:19] <justinmcp_> Im not changing abi.. (lets be clear!!) but yes
[00:20] <robru> justinmcp_: I'm a python programmer I don't understand all this recompile nonsense :-P
[00:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/online-accounts-api)
[00:20] <justinmcp_> otherthan that - it depends how the build machinery works if its sensible - and I assume it is, one build should be fine
[00:20] <robru> justinmcp_: ok one sec, I'll copy it over then
[00:21] <justinmcp_> BC, a poorly understood nightmare :)
[00:23] <robru> justinmcp_: is your ticket ready to build? please abandon & rebuild it to get a shiny new PPA ;-)
[00:24] <robru> justinmcp_: (may take me a while here since I need to dget, poke changelog, and dput three copies of oxide, oh god...)
[00:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app)
[00:28] <justinmcp_> robru: ok, will abandon and recreate
[00:29] <robru> justinmcp_: thanks ;-)
[00:30] <justinmcp_> robru: wont let me
[00:31] <justinmcp_> somedays, I think I should of been a farmer
[00:31] <robru> justinmcp_: what? what error are you seeing?
[00:31] <justinmcp_> Internal Server Error
[00:31] <justinmcp_> The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the application.
[00:32] <robru> oh god what
[00:36] <robru> justinmcp_: ok, wow, you think you test things in staging...
[00:36] <robru> justinmcp_: just pushed a fix, that should resolve itself in 5 minutes.
[00:36] <justinmcp_> robru: NP, I'll try in a few
[00:38] <justinmcp_> btw, from end user perspective, system is nice, dont fret!
[00:43] <robru> justinmcp_: haha thanks
[00:43] <robru> justinmcp_: ok I just did the abandon just to make sure it's all working now
[00:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Abandoning ticket
[00:46] <justinmcp_> robru: ok, made a new one and kicked off the build - 2025
[00:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2025 Preparing packages
[00:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1968 Abandoning ticket
[00:48] <robru> justinmcp_: no, it wasn't necessary to make a new ticket, sorry that wasn't clear
[00:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/messaging-app, yakkety/telephony-service)
[00:48] <robru> justinmcp_: I started rebuilding the existing ticket already: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823
[00:49] <justinmcp_> robru: ah
[00:49] <robru> justinmcp_: I guess you can decide which of those two tickets to abandon ;-)
[00:50] <justinmcp_> choice is good :)
[00:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2025 Abandoning ticket
[01:16] <robru> justinmcp_: ok so I got vivid and xenial versions of oxide but yakkety has 1.17 instead of 1.16, is that a problem?
[01:21] <justinmcp_> robru: it should be ok
[01:22] <robru> justinmcp_: ok, will upload soon, just finishing the download
[01:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Pending binary packages
[01:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[01:59] <robru> oh god 3 oxides why
[02:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Successfully built
[02:05] <robru> justinmcp_: I swear I didn't forget about you, oxide is just destroying my computer right now
[02:15] <justinmcp_> robru: it does that
[02:15] <robru> justinmcp_: xenial uploaded, working on vivid now
[02:15] <justinmcp_> my laptop used to take 30mins just to link..
[02:16] <robru> justinmcp_: link?! I'm just building the source package! it's literally just a tarball!
[02:16] <justinmcp_> :) there's a lot of code
[02:17] <robru> justinmcp_: distressingly, I'm not seeing my upload in the PPA, or a rejection message...
[02:27] <robru> justinmcp_: ok, well, I've now uploaded all three. still don't see any in the PPA
[02:27] <robru> justinmcp_: keep an eye on it I guess. I'm officially EOD but I can upload again if something went wrong.
[02:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Currently building (xenial/telephony-service). Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Uploading build (yakkety/telephony
[02:27] <justinmcp_> robru: ive noticed before that it can sometimes take a while
[02:28] <justinmcp_> robru: we can catch up tomorrow
[02:29] <robru> justinmcp_: I'm literally just sitting on the couch surfing my phone, no trouble to poke dput if necessary 👍
[02:31] <justinmcp_> robru: ok, thanks for helping
[02:32] <robru> justinmcp_: yakkety just showed up, oddly newest first. You're welcome!
[02:41] <robru> Still no sign of those other two...
[02:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app)
[02:59] <robru> justinmcp_: I'm amazed that I haven't gotten a rejection email yet
[03:16] <robru> cjwatson: can you check what happened to my uploads? Only 1 of 3 showed up in 1823, no rejection email
[03:19] <justinmcp_> robru: a lot to process?
[03:20] <robru> justinmcp_: it's highly suspect that the only one that showed up was the last one I uploaded. I would expect them to be processed in upload order
[03:21] <robru> justinmcp_: also it's been an hour, way longer than yakkety took
[03:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/messaging-app, yakkety/telephony-service)
[04:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1866 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/address-book-app). Successfully built (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, vivid/indicator-transfer-buteo, vivid/libqofono, vivid/mediaplayer-app, vivid/sync-monitor, xenial/address-book-app, xenial/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, xenial/indicator-transfer-buteo, xenial/libqofono, xenial/mediaplayer-app, xenial/sync-monitor,
[05:20] <Mirv> yes I cause all the autopkgtest slowdowns and even more today :(
[06:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/lintian-multi-arch-1612299
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Preparing packages
[06:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Pending binary packages (vivid/online-accounts-api, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[07:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/online-accounts-api)
[07:35] <Mirv> well not all, there's a lot of new KDE content too which cause eg everything currently
[07:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/online-accounts-api, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Preparing packages
[07:53] <dbarth> Mirv: hey, we're again figthing with the media-hub binary compatibility problem
[07:54] <dbarth> apparently it's known that when such a thing happens qtubuntu needs a rebuild
[07:54] <dbarth> but so does oxide as well
[07:54] <dbarth> is there a way to like "gate" or block the ci-train on such events, until a new rebuild of oxide is made?
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components). Uploading build (vivid/address-book-app, xenial/address-book-app, yakkety/address-book-app)
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[08:06] <Mirv> dbarth: someone who understands what's going should first describe how does that binar compatibility happen...
[08:07] <Mirv> dbarth: I only know that if some QPA interface in Qt itself changes, it needs rebuilds of those QPAs (like appmenu-qt5 or qtubuntu), but not what could happen in our own stack that makes stuff needing a rebuild elsewhere in our stack
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Pending binary packages (vivid/address-book-app, xenial/address-book-app, yakkety/address-book-app). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components)
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- penk, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1565 QA Signoff: N/A
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- penk, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1564 QA Signoff: N/A
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- penk, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1348 QA Signoff: N/A
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- penk, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1576 QA Signoff: N/A
[08:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1999 Publishing packages
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1999 Release pocket (vivid/mediaplayer-app, xenial/mediaplayer-app). Successfully built (yakkety/mediaplayer-app)
[08:53] <cjwatson> robru: I see rejections in 1823, for both vivid and xenial: "Unable to find oxide-qt_1.16.8.orig.tar.xz in upload or distribution."
[08:54] <cjwatson> robru: (incidentally, I don't suppose the new-style PPAs could be given some kind of prefix?  would make it easier to search for them in logs - the current scheme matches random git commit IDs and that kind of thing
[08:54] <cjwatson> )
[08:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2015 Successfully built
[08:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Successfully built
[09:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2016 Preparing packages
[09:04]  * sil2100 liked the landing-xxxx theme
[09:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Preparing packages
[09:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Ready to build (vivid/oxide-qt, xenial/oxide-qt). Successfully built (vivid/media-hub, xenial/media-hub, yakkety/media-hub). Uploading build (yakkety/oxide-qt)
[09:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1992 Preparing packages
[09:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Preparing packages
[09:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1962 Preparing packages
[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1992 Currently building (xenial/account-plugins, yakkety/account-plugins). Failed to build (vivid/account-plugins)
[09:15] <willcooke> sil2100, howdy!  We'd like to get ubuntu-terminal-app added to the Xenial overlay - it's landed in Main in Y now, so we need to keep the overlay in sync.  Is that something you can help us get added to the overlay?  (cc popey)
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2015 Generating diffs
[09:17] <Mirv> note that Pat reported he got bug #1628781 with terminal-app
[09:18] <Mirv> so I guess that affects people who have installed it from somewhere else earlier
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2016 Pending binary packages (vivid/libaccounts-qt, xenial/libaccounts-qt, yakkety/libaccounts-qt). Successfully built (vivid/libaccounts-glib, xenial/libaccounts-glib, yakkety/libaccounts-glib)
[09:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2023 QA Signoff: Approved
[09:19] <willcooke> popey, see comment from M_irv ^ I'll ask TheMuso to take a look
[09:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2015 Successfully built
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1992 Preparing packages
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Diff missing (yakkety/oxide-qt). Ready to build (vivid/oxide-qt, xenial/oxide-qt). Successfully built (vivid/media-hub, xenial/media-hub, yakkety/media-hub)
[09:26] <popey> ooh
[09:26] <popey> ok
[09:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Dependency wait (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension). Failed to build (xenial/signon-apparmor-extension, yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension)
[09:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2015 Pending binary packages (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src). Successfully built (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src-gles)
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Pending binary packages (vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 QA Signoff: Ready
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Pending binary packages (yakkety/oxide-qt). Ready to build (vivid/oxide-qt, xenial/oxide-qt). Successfully built (vivid/media-hub, xenial/media-hub, yakkety/media-hub)
[09:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2027 Ready to build
[09:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Dependency wait (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension). Failed to build (xenial/signon-apparmor-extension, yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Successfully built (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[09:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1992 Pending binary packages
[09:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1948 Merging branches
[09:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2026 Preparing packages
[09:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2016 Successfully built
[09:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2019 Preparing packages
[09:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2026 yakkety/qtubuntu: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/qtubuntu/menuTheme
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Preparing packages
[10:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1962 Pending binary packages
[10:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Diff missing (yakkety/oxide-qt). Ready to build (vivid/oxide-qt, xenial/oxide-qt). Successfully built (vivid/media-hub, xenial/media-hub, yakkety/media-hub)
[10:06] <rvr> sil2100: 1895 approved
[10:07] <sil2100> rvr: wooo! Thanks!
[10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 QA Signoff: Approved
[10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2026 Ready to build
[10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 yakkety/qtubuntu: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtubuntu/rasterGLSurface
[10:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Publishing packages
[10:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Preparing packages
[10:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Dependency wait (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension). Failed to build (xenial/signon-apparmor-extension, yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[10:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2015 Successfully built
[10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Proposed pocket (yakkety/address-book-app, yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components). Release pocket (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/address-book-app, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components)
[10:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Preparing packages
[10:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Ready to build
[10:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1962 Successfully built
[10:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1992 Successfully built
[10:35] <mardy> sil2100: hi! Is this silo going to land, or do I need to do something about it? https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1848
[10:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1993 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components)
[10:36] <sil2100> mardy: hey! I think it's being avoided since there are binary packages removed, I guess I'll try to publish it soonish
[10:36] <sil2100> Just need to make sure the archive admins are aware
[10:37] <mardy> ok, thanks
[10:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Pending binary packages (vivid/online-accounts-api, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[10:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Dependency wait (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, vivid/ubuntu-push). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-push). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/gola
[10:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Dependency wait (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension). Pending binary packages (xenial/signon-apparmor-extension). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts). Uploading build (yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension)
[10:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Preparing packages
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2019 Pending binary packages
[11:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Dependency wait (vivid/ubuntu-push). Failed to build (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/ubuntu-push). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/gola
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Preparing packages
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Currently building (yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension). Failed to build (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension). Pending binary packages (xenial/signon-apparmor-extension). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[11:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Failed to build (vivid/online-accounts-api). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Preparing packages
[11:23] <jgdx> where does one discuss MIRs and such?
[11:31] <popey> jgdx: #ubuntu-devel ?
[11:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Failed to build (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension). Pending binary packages (xenial/signon-apparmor-extension, yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[11:36] <jgdx> popey, thx
[11:38] <jgdx> trainguards: I can't reproduce [1] on a local yakkety chroot, any ideas? [1] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/287249787/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.ubuntu-push_0.68+16.10.20160929-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:39] <jgdx> The use of => implies three things, and all of it holds for ubuntu-push's usage AFAICS
[11:40] <jgdx> it also seems that this built for yakkety about a month ago: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1797
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2019 Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, vivid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[11:43] <jgdx> Mirv, do you know of any debs using the => directive? That's dh-exec-install renaming+install
[11:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Dependency wait (vivid/ubuntu-push). Failed to build (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/ubuntu-push). Pending binary packages (xenial/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github
[11:44] <cjwatson> jgdx: which source format are you using?
[11:44] <cjwatson> jgdx: (debian/source/format)
[11:45] <jgdx> cjwatson, 1.0
[11:47] <cjwatson> jgdx: 1.0 doesn't preserve executable bits in the packaging delta
[11:47] <jgdx> oh that explains that
[11:47] <cjwatson> jgdx: you must either use 3.0 (quilt) (which may imply other changes), or manually chmod +x the install file before dh_install runs
[11:47] <jgdx> right, thanks cjwatson
[11:48] <cjwatson> jgdx: (though to answer your question literally, e.g. openssh uses =>)
[11:49] <jgdx> cjwatson, great, thanks
[11:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Preparing packages
[11:55] <Mirv> jgdx: hmm, no not that I remember
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Proposed pocket (yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components). Release pocket (vivid/address-book-app, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/address-book-app, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, yakkety/address-book-app)
[12:00] <jgdx> Mirv, np, thanks
[12:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Dependency wait (vivid/ubuntu-push). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Pending binary packages (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2027 Pending binary packages
[12:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Preparing packages
[12:35] <mardy> Mirv: hi! Have you seen this failure before? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/287247345/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-ppc64el.online-accounts-api_0.1+15.04.20160929.3-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Preparing packages
[12:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2027 Generating diffs
[12:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2027 Pending binary packages
[12:39] <Mirv> mardy: well it's ICE, and it says it's not reproducible, so should go away with a rebuild
[12:39] <Mirv> and if not, file a bug against gcc-6
[12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Failed to build (vivid/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[12:40] <cjwatson> mardy,Mirv: and it's ppc64el, so almost certainly due to the known but rare guest memory corruption
[12:40] <cjwatson> standard symptom, just mash retry
[12:40] <cjwatson> (NOT rebuild in bileto
[12:40] <cjwatson> )
[12:41] <cjwatson> mardy: I just hit retry for you
[12:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2019 Successfully built
[12:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-push). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-mattn
[12:46] <mardy> cjwatson, Mirv: thanks
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Pending binary packages (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension, xenial/signon-apparmor-extension, yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[12:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Preparing packages
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[13:01] <jgdx> trainguards: hey, in silo 2021, I'm getting a missing dep for yakkety/s390x: liburl-dispatcher1-dev. According to [1] it does not exist. Is that known? [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/liburl-dispatcher1-dev
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2027 Successfully built
[13:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/messaging-app)
[13:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Successfully built
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1679 Preparing packages
[13:17] <sil2100> jgdx: hey! Let me take a look at that
[13:19] <jgdx> sil2100, thanks
[13:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Pending binary packages (vivid/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[13:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-push, yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3,
[13:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Currently building (vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service). Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app)
[13:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Pending binary packages (yakkety/signon-apparmor-extension). Successfully built (vivid/signon-apparmor-extension, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/signon-apparmor-extension, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[13:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1679 Pending binary packages (vivid/unity8-desktop-session, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, yakkety/lightdm, yakkety/unity8-desktop-session). Successfully built (vivid/lightdm, vivid/ubuntu-touch-session, vivid/unity8, xenial/lightdm, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/unity8, yakkety/ubuntu-touch-session, yakkety/unity8)
[13:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (viv
[13:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2023 Publishing packages
[13:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/telephony-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app)
[13:53] <sil2100> jgdx: hey, yeah, sorry it took so long but I got preempted
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1971 Successfully built
[13:53] <sil2100> jgdx: so it seems it's a known thing, there are no s390x binaries for url-dispatcher at all because it depends on upstart
[13:54] <jgdx> sil2100, okay, so we're ignoring that failure?
[13:54] <sil2100> jgdx: so the best way to temporarily deal with this is adding an upstart build-dependency to that package
[13:55] <sil2100> To ubuntu-push that is
[13:55] <jgdx> sil2100, what are the consequences of that change? We're trying to MIR this—does it affect that?
[13:55] <sil2100> upstart is in main, and I guess many packages are like that right now
[13:56] <jgdx> sil2100, so http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23251174/ is fine? :)
[13:56] <sil2100> Let me give a quick look if the other MIRed packages stayed with this
[13:56] <sil2100> jgdx: yes, basically ;)
[13:56] <jgdx> goodie
[13:57] <sil2100> jgdx: ok, so u-s-s for instance still uses this 'hack', and I guess it's close to being included in main
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[14:03] <jgdx> sil2100, okay dokay
[14:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, vivid/golang-github-pborman-uu
[14:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Preparing packages
[14:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2023 Release pocket (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch). UNAPPROVED queue (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch)
[14:15] <jgdx> sil2100, upstart is now listed as dep wait: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2021/+build/10968617
[14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1679 Preparing packages
[14:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- sil2100, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1895 Release pocket
[14:18] <sil2100> jgdx: excellent
[14:18] <jgdx> sil2100, doesn't make sense though, you're right that USS has the upstart hack, and that built fine
[14:19] <jgdx> (yesterday)
[14:19] <sil2100> jgdx: well, this kind of depwait is good, so just proceed normally
[14:19] <jgdx> sil2100, no, it failed, but was ignored
[14:19] <jgdx> okay
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-
[14:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Preparing packages
[14:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Preparing packages
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 yakkety/unity8: Failed to commit https://code.launchpad.net/~bhdouglass/unity8/disable-launcher. You must supply either a Commit Message on your MP, or a custom debian/changelog entry
[14:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/messaging-app, yakkety/telephony-service)
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1993 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components)
[14:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Ready to build
[14:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-push). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-push, yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-mattn
[14:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/messaging-app). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service)
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Preparing packages
[15:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Preparing packages
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1679 Pending binary packages (vivid/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, vivid/ubuntu-touch-session, vivid/unity8, vivid/unity8-desktop-session, xenial/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/unity8, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, yakkety/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, yakkety/lightdm, yakkety/ubuntu-touch-session, yakkety/unity8, yakkety/unity8-desktop-session). Successfully b
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-push, yakkety/ubuntu-push). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-
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[15:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Pending binary packages (vivid/online-accounts-api, xenial/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[15:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Preparing packages
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2000 Release pocket
[15:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Currently building (vivid/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-push). Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-mattn
[15:29] <robru> cjwatson: surely you can grep for /1823?
[15:30] <cjwatson> robru: isn't always preceded by /, it depends on the context.  it's not an insuperable obstacle, just annoying
[15:31] <robru> cjwatson: I removed the "landing-" prefix specifically to make the PPA names shorter and easier to type, sigh
[15:31] <cjwatson> doh
[15:32] <cjwatson> I guess if I'm the only one annoyed by it then leave it ...
[15:34] <robru> sil2100: did you see this failure? https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/1999/publish/1/info/ please try publishing again
[15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1995 Failed to build (xenial/unity-scope-click). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity-scope-click)
[15:43] <sil2100> robru: oh, missed that, thanks - re running
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[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1999 Publishing packages
[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-push, yakkety/ubuntu-push). Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-
[15:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Currently building (vivid/messaging-app). Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service)
[16:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dbarth mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1817 Dependency wait (yakkety/online-accounts-api). Successfully built (vivid/online-accounts-api, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, xenial/online-accounts-api, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts)
[16:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1988 Preparing packages
[16:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1999 Proposed pocket (yakkety/mediaplayer-app). Release pocket (vivid/mediaplayer-app, xenial/mediaplayer-app)
[16:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-push, yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, vivid/golang-github-pborman
[16:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Pending binary packages (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/unity8, yakkety/qtmir, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles)
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-app, yakkety/messaging-app). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/telephony-service)
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1988 Currently building (xenial/indicator-network, yakkety/indicator-network). Failed to build (vivid/indicator-network)
[16:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Pending binary packages (vivid/messaging-app, xenial/messaging-app). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/messaging-app, yakkety/telephony-service)
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[16:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2028 Uploading build
[16:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1988 Failed to build
[16:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mzanetti, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2022 Successfully built
[16:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh boiko rmescandon, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1319 Failed to build (xenial/telepathy-ofono, yakkety/history-service, yakkety/telepathy-ofono). Successfully built (vivid/history-service, vivid/messaging-app, vivid/telepathy-ofono, vivid/telephony-service, xenial/history-service, xenial/messaging-app, xenial/telephony-service, yakkety/messaging-app, yakkety/telephony-service)
[16:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2028 Pending binary packages
[17:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2023 Proposed pocket (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Release pocket (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[17:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1956 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/libertine). Successfully built (vivid/libertine, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/libertine, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[17:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1999 Release pocket
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2028 Successfully built
[17:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1988 Preparing packages
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1995 Preparing packages
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Wellark charles, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1988 Failed to build
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1995 Failed to build
[19:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Failed to build
[20:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Preparing packages
[20:03] <dobey> robru: so bileto does landings for things in git on lp now right?
[20:03] <robru> dobey: it sure does!
[20:05] <dobey> robru: if something is currently in bzr and configured to land via train, is there a list somewhere of specific things that need to be done to migrate to git, given the differences between it and bzr?
[20:07] <robru> dobey: well there's nothing specific that bileto cares about. the LP interface for declaring git the default is a bit unintuitive but it works.
[20:07] <robru> dobey: https://design.canonical.com/2015/01/converting-projects-between-git-and-bazaar/ for the repo conversion
[20:08] <dobey> robru: ok, thought it might care about release tags or something
[20:09] <robru> dobey: there was a time when bileto would scan back to the latest tag in order to generate the changelog but it doesn't do that anymore, it just looks at the commits unique to the input branch now
[20:12] <dobey> robru: ok cool. thanks
[20:12] <robru> dobey: you're welcome!
[20:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Preparing packages
[20:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Needs rebuild due to new commits
[20:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Preparing packages
[20:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Failed to build
[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Preparing packages
[21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1866 Abandoning ticket
[21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Preparing packages
[21:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2030 Pending binary packages
[21:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Merging branches
[21:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 xenial/bileto: Failed to push refs/heads/bileto-ubuntu-xenial-2029 to lp:bileto:refs/heads/master. Check bot team membership and branch ownership
[21:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Merging branches
[21:37] <robru> really gotta make it check those permissions at build time...
[21:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- robru sbalda, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2029 Failed to build
[21:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2030 Successfully built
[21:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv mardy, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1997 Proposed pocket (yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src). Release pocket (xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src, xenial/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles, yakkety/qtdeclarative-opensource-src-gles)
[22:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Pending binary packages (vivid/ubuntu-push, xenial/ubuntu-push, yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3,
[22:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1995 Abandoning ticket
[22:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2030 Pending binary packages
[22:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2021 Pending binary packages (yakkety/ubuntu-push). Ready to build (vivid/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-any-shared-dev, xenial/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, xenial/golang-github-pborman-uuid, yakkety/golang-any-shared-dev, yakkety/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, yakkety/golang-github-pborman-uuid). Successfully built (vivid/golang-github-mattn-go-sqlite3, vivid/golang-github-pborman-uuid, vivid
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[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1995 Pending binary packages
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[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson dobey, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1995 Successfully built
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- josharenson, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2031 Preparing packages


[16:07] <k1l> !bootrepair
[16:07] <k1l> can we get that linking to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ?
[16:07] <genii> !fixmbr


[11:40] <GTroy> someone pleas help, I typed wrong things in via echo to /etc/network/interfaces  how do I replace those sentences?
[11:40] <njan> hachre, right here - reiserfs has broken and caused me dataloss every time I've used it, XFS never has :P
[11:40] <vettamon> tonyyarusso: No
[11:40] <njan> hachre, actually, the wikipedia.org articles on FSs are mostly quite good.
[11:40] <Phoul> umm im reading this thing and I think its the wrong tutoriel
[11:41] <Jimmey__> odin, I think it's because of the point you made first, but also, because most people are used to a Windows environment, and come to IRC because it's difficult to adjust.
[11:41] <hachre> njan: ive read em all
[11:41] <hachre> njan: i'd like some nice tests
[11:41] <Phoul> Im wanting to upgrade from breezy to dapper and im using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:41] <dli> njan, #debian people warn against using reiserfs :(
[11:41] <bimberi> !upgrade
[11:41] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[11:41] <hachre> njan: something like the thing you just said
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> vettamon: So it says what, all free space, or no disk at all?
[11:41] <Kumo> does anybody know why sometimes aptitude wants to uninstall  a lot of usefull thing?
[11:41] <hachre> njan: personal experiences and stuff :)
[11:41] <bimberi> Phoul: ^^^^^ (second link)
[11:41] <njan> dli, indeed - like I said, reiserfs has caused me dataloss every time I've used it.
[11:41] <vettamon> tonyyarusso: no disk at all, cant see anything
[11:41] <Warbo> Kumo: By default it gets rid of dependencies which are no longer needed
[11:41] <odin> Jimmey__:  true.  I mean, I just started using Linux a few weeks ago.  haven't learned much.  but Windows has much more of a "pick-up-and-use-right-away" easiness
[11:41] <GTroy> I echoed in wrong things to /etc/network/interfaces  uh...how do I fix that?
[11:42] <dli> njan, I suggest you to use, reiser4, jfs, ext3, xfs, reiserfs :)
[11:42] <dli> njan, follow the order :)
[11:42] <njan> dli, I use ext3, NTFS, and XFS preferentially, in that order. :)
[11:42] <Kumo> Warbo: yeah but why for example it wants to get rid of my openoffice?
[11:42] <dli> njan, I don't know ntfs :(
[11:42] <odin> Jimmey__: but I admit there is a bit of culture shock; it's the same as when I had to start using Macs at my workplace
[11:42] <Phoul> ARG I did update-manager -d already
[11:42] <Phoul> And it didnt do anything
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> vettamon: Okay, sorry but that goes beyond the scope of what I'm comfortable trying to troubleshoot.  Stick around for a while and say it just like that every 15 minutes or so, "installer can't find a hard disk" or the like, and hopefully someone can help you soon.
[11:42] <hachre> njan: dli is a bot i think :P
[11:43] <Phoul> I think I need to redo my sources list dont i?
[11:43] <Warbo> Kumo: I wouldn't know that. Maybe it's broken?
[11:43] <odin> Jimmey__: only the Macs had one-button mice :P
[11:43] <biovore> Kumo: probably a tied up dependency
[11:43] <hachre> im using a mac right now
[11:43] <Jimmey__> odin, it does, but the same could be said of some distributions. I think that if you want to get real work done quickly, then the command line is a must for most distros ( which is where most new users meet their downfall ). I'm sure if you'd've used a Linux based operating system for aslong as you've used Windows, and then tried to make the switch the other way, you'd probably run into similar problems.
[11:43] <Kumo> Warbo: I have uninstall all that aptitude told, but then it wants to install them again
[11:43] <Warbo> Kumo: (Open Office package, not aptitude :))
[11:43] <hachre> so sshhht
[11:43] <vettamon> tonyyarusso: Ok, thanks for your help anyway. Better than nothing ;)
[11:43] <njan> dli, are you a bot?
[11:43] <hachre> :)
[11:43] <Jimmey__> odin, let's keep it on-topic though.
[11:43] <dedalus_> hi
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Phoul: run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  if your on gnome
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> vettamon: Good luck.
[11:43] <njan> hachre, -dli- VERSION xchat 2.6.2 Linux <IP_ADDRESS> [i686/3.06GHz]
[11:44] <hachre> hm :)
[11:44] <Kumo> biovore: tied up?
[11:44] <geek|sauce> _jason: yt?
[11:44] <hachre> doenst seem so hehe
[11:44] <hachre> but that can be faked
[11:44] <Warbo> Kumo: I think open office is in a dependency of ubuntu-standard or something
[11:44] <GTroy> if you echo, and type something wrong...what can you do?
[11:44] <hachre> his responses just seemed a little weird to me :)
[11:44] <njan> hachre, indeed, but most bots don't bother, so on balance of probability..
[11:44] <Fred> Teun, i've run the snmpconfig and restarted snmpd, but my netmrg thing still fails to connect. is there a way i can test it?
[11:44] <GTroy> sorry for the repeat newb question
[11:44] <biovore> Kumo: I am guess your tring to remove or upgrade a package and apt says it want to remove open office?
[11:44] <njan> hachre, and you're surprised to find weird people in a channel devoted to linux, in IRC, at 11 at night? :P
[11:44] <hachre> haha
[11:44] <hachre> you have a point
[11:45] <Warbo> GTroy: Redo it. If it is in a file then edit that file (nano filename)
[11:45] <_jason> geek|sauce: try running azureus from a terminal
[11:45] <virgule> I want to install Ubuntu in this Intel Dual-Core Mac Mini. Anyone know if it is possible and if so how?
[11:45] <GTroy> ok, thanks
[11:45] <Kumo> biovore: exactly, I want to install something and I got that output
[11:45] <teun> Fred: you can use the snmpwalk tool
[11:45] <dli> virgule, not sure you can do that :(
[11:45] <Fred> Thanks teun
[11:45] <RootSnatch> virgule: it is probably possible, I don't know though, does anyone else know?
[11:45] <free_bsd> damn
[11:45] <free_bsd> this bitch is full
[11:45] <Phoul> arg can somone give me the sources list for dapper so I can upgrade please
[11:45] <biovore> Kumo: its probably because your changing a libaray version that very thing depends on..
[11:45] <free_bsd> wad up niggas?
[11:46] <_jason> !language
[11:46] <free_bsd> biaches?
[11:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:46] <free_bsd> hos
[11:46] <Warbo> virgule: Should be possible to install. You would want an SMP kernel for multiple processor and you would have to sort out elilo to actually BOOT it
[11:46] <Jimmey__> free_bsd, ?
[11:46] <free_bsd> yo
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Phoul: if you join me in #ubuntu-offtopic we will go through it
[11:46] <free_bsd> rude bwoy from jamrock deh yah
[11:46] <FlannelKing> !ops
[11:46] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:46] <Kumo> biovore: how could I do to fix it up?
[11:46] <geek|sauce> _jason: i don't know how to navigate through the directories.  i'm too used to dos commands
[11:46] <Joe_Dirt> there is a command that some people dont reccomend doing it involves gtk sudo and nautilus for taking full control of the computer (for drag and drop restrictions) what is it i forgot
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ty FlannelKing i was getting there too lol
[11:46] <free_bsd> http://www.myspace.com/tappa_taps4eva
[11:46] <biovore> Kumo: depends on what your doing
[11:47] <_jason> geek|sauce: just open a terminal and type 'azureus'
[11:47] <Amaranth> FlannelKing: ?
[11:47] <lordnir> Does ubuntu play nicely with older computers(7-8yrs)? I've already tried vectorlinux and mandrake9 but so far i can't get them to install, although I think my cdrom drive may be failing
[11:47] <Kumo> biovore: for example sudo aptitude install listen and I got the output
[11:47] <ompaul> Seveas, your just cruel :)
[11:47] <biovore> Kumo: whats the output?
[11:47] <dli> lordnir, can it boot usb?
[11:47] <Seveas> ompaul, cruel is my middle name
[11:47] <biovore> (link or something)
[11:48] <Joe_Dirt> lordnir i have a 10yo comp and it works fine (but slow)
[11:48] <Warbo> lordnir: What processor speed (to give me an idea). Graphics probably won't be very effective
[11:48] <lordnir> dli i don't know, it has usb ports but i've never tried booting from them
[11:48] <Joe_Dirt> lordnir (with ubuntu)**
[11:48] <lordnir> 233mhz
[11:48] <Kumo> biovore: a lot of packages, do you wnat yo see them?
[11:48] <FlannelKing> lordnir: ditch gnome for xfce, and you'll be fine
[11:48] <Fred> Teun, snmpwalk times out when trying to connect :(
[11:49] <biovore> yeah.. paste bin?
[11:49] <Jimmey__> lordnir, yeah, I'd wait for Dapper Xubuntu
[11:49] <Joe_Dirt> lordnir mine has like...less than that and its fine (but installation and startup is slow)
[11:49] <Warbo> lordnir: You should be fine in console mode. For graphics....... Give the AA guys a call :)
[11:49] <teun> Fred: and you have a running snmpd process?
[11:49] <FlannelKing> Warbo: caca, it's color.
[11:49] <cyphase> omg!
[11:49] <lordnir> alright i'll give it a try
[11:49] <cyphase> this is great..
[11:49] <Fred> Teun, yes it appears in ps ax | grep snmpd
[11:49] <cyphase> some cop is trying to use an open wifi spot!
[11:50] <dli> lordnir, you can install from usb
[11:50] <Jimmey__> ubotu, tell lordnir about xubuntu
[11:50] <geek|sauce> _jason: new problem....core patcher failed
[11:50] <manuel_> ?
[11:50] <manuel_> \?
[11:50] <Kumo> biovore: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12694
[11:50] <dli> lordnir, beyond that, you can take the hdd, and install on another machine
[11:50] <Killaz> hi #ubuntu
[11:50] <xet7> What app can I use to play .mov videos in ubuntu?
[11:50] <_jason> geek|sauce: what caused that?
[11:50] <Printer> Hey all.
[11:50] <Warbo> xet7: Any movie player. Enable restricted formats
[11:51] <geek|sauce> _jason: it was auto-updating
[11:51] <xet7> Warbo: how do I enable it?
[11:51] <Warbo> xet7: Can you play avis and mp3s and stuff?
[11:51] <_jason> geek|sauce: I see, does it happen every time?
[11:51] <lordnir> do I have to format the usb drive or something? I have a 1gig jump drive but when I read about booting from the drive, it sounded like it needed a certain format
[11:51] <geek|sauce> _jason yes
[11:51] <Printer> I just installed the Dapper beat and cannot print to my Printer on a Windows box through Samba.  The printer just pauses when I print to it.  How can I fix this?
[11:51] <xet7> Warbo: only with vlc.
[11:51] <teun> Fred: and lsof -i | grep snmp shows a snmpd process bound to localhost?
[11:51] <biovore> Kumo: my spanish isn't that good, but it looks like your tring to do a update
[11:52] <Kumo> biovore: yes, just that
[11:52] <biovore> Kumo: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:52] <Fred> Yes teun, it shows two. one on TCP and one on UDP
[11:52] <_jason> geek|sauce: what happens to azureus?  does it crash?
[11:52] <Kumo> biovore: and I get that all of the time
[11:52] <Warbo> xet7: Search through all of the "gstreamer" packages in synaptic for support in Totem (sorry, I'm in Dapper where they are grouped by licence)
[11:52] <teun> Fred: that's ok
[11:53] <geek|sauce> _jason: no, it just gives me that error, along with an "update successful" message, then tells me to restart... does that mean restart the app or the whole comp?
[11:53] <_jason> geek|sauce: app most likely
[11:53] <Warbo> geek|sauce: Nothing will ask for a reboot ecept a kernel
[11:53] <Kumo> biovore: I don't have that problem when I use synaptic but I want to fix this
[11:53] <teun> Fred: what happens if you telnet to port 161?
[11:54] <biovore> Kumo: I use apt-get from the command line here.. aptitude always messes me up eventualy
[11:54] <dereks> anyone know of an app to decompress uharc files?
[11:54] <Fred> Teun, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[11:54] <Warbo> dereks: Sorry I have to ask this but... File extension?
[11:54] <Fred> Don't i need to tell it to use UDP or something?
[11:55] <biovore> Kumo: do a sudo dpkg -l | grep usplash
[11:55] <dereks> Warbo: heh, uha
[11:55] <teun> if you have tcp enabled as well, you should be able to connect via telnet
[11:55] <Warbo> dereks: Sorry, don't know it
[11:55] <Kumo> biovore: well the message before the packages says, the following packages are not used and they will be eliminated
[11:55] <teun> Fred: what was the exact snmpwalk command you tried?
[11:55] <dereks> Warbo: thanks anyways
[11:55] <Kumo> biovore: ok
[11:55] <vook> my system is now loading a module for my broadcom wireless automatically at boot, but it doesn't work.  All I need to know is how to prevent this module from loading (ndiswrapper still works just fine once I unload the module manually)  Yeah, I'm in Dapper but the answer should be universal (I haven't had to do anything like this since the modules.conf days in Redhat 6.x)
[11:55] <Fred> Teun, how do i enable tcp? its using port 199 on tcp, but i dunno if it's "enabled" on that port.
[11:56] <geek|sauce> _jason: ok, i restarted it, and it is telling me that i need to update SWT library for gtk (and stealing window focus to do so...which is annoying, lol)
[11:56] <Sanne> xet7, this may also help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:56] <Fred> Teun, and i used snmpwalk -Os -c public -v 1 localhost system
[11:56] <Warbo> Does anyone know if the lha in the repos can actually open anything? I had to replace it with one that could
[11:56] <teun> Fred: hmm, thats smux... not needed for this
[11:56] <biovore> Kumo: I am guessing you using brezzy as well
[11:56] <cafuego> vook: The native module would possibly work if you installed the required firmware.
[11:56] <Fred> Ok
[11:56] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[11:56] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[11:56] <xet7> Sanne: thanks :)
[11:56] <teun> Fred: can you show me your com2sec lines in your /etc/snmpd.conf?
[11:56] <Kumo> biovore: I got this: ii  usplash           0.1-22         Userspace bootsplash utility
[11:56] <vook> cafuego, isn't there a way just to prevent the native module from loading though?  I don't need it, ndiswrapper works great.
[11:56] <Kumo> biovore: yes I'm using breezy
[11:57] <Sanne> xet7, you're welcome. I went the totem-xine/win32codecs route and it works fine.
[11:57] <cafuego> vook: You cna blacklist it in /etc/hotplug.d/blacklist or somesuch...
[11:57] <vook> cafuego, thanks!
[11:57] <biovore> Kumo: well usplash is at the current version
[11:57] <phatmonkey> ok, I change my refresh rate in preferences/screen resolution, I log out, then I log in again, and it hasn't remembered the change! what to do?
[11:57] <cafuego> vook: (bcm43xx can use kismet though, ndiswrapper can't ;-)
[11:57] <Fred> Teun, there are no com2sec lines that I can find.
[11:57] <teun> Fred: hmmm, fascinating
[11:57] <Warbo> phatmonkey: Did you try it with the "this computer" box checked?
[11:58] <vook> cafuego, thanks, I'll get it working with the native eventually, I just need something asap.
[11:58] <teun> Fred: can you put your config on pastebin or something where I can see it?
[11:58] <phatmonkey> Warbo: nope, I will try
[11:58] <Fred> Sure, one minute
[11:58] <Random_Transit> hey, i need some help with a game i installed
[11:58] <Random_Transit> Uplink
[11:58] <Kumo> biovore: I think all of them are updated but I don't understand that behavior
[11:58] <Jimmey__> Random_Transit, what's the problem?
[11:59] <phatmonkey> Warbo: that fixed it, but gdm is still in the old refresh rate
[11:59] <Raven301> Where is the boot loader located gui or cli?? please
[11:59] <Random_Transit> in the game i switched to a resolution that my monitor doesn't support
[11:59] <Random_Transit> and now the game won't start
[11:59] <Fred> Teun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12695
[11:59] <Random_Transit> is there a .conf somewhere i should be looking for?
[11:59] <cafuego> Random_Transit: Edit the config file
[11:59] <teun> Fred: ok i'll take a look
[11:59] <Jimmey__> Random_Transit, can you do a sudo apt-get --purge remove uplink?
[11:59] <erUSUL> Raven301: what do you mean. looking for config file? binaries?
[11:59] <Warbo> phatmonkey: Wow! I didn't know what that actually did. Anyway, GDM would probably use default X settings
[11:59] <cafuego> Random_Transit: probably in ~/.<gamename>
[11:59] <biovore> Kumo: try a apt-get install -f
[11:59] <biovore> (sudo)


[10:08] <mup> PR snapd#13188 opened: interfaces: make network-status implicit on core - it is required for using the network portal <Created by jhenstridge> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13188>
[10:13] <mup> PR snapd#13189 opened: interfaces: make steam-support implicit on core <Created by jhenstridge> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13189>
[13:45] <mup> PR snapd#13142 closed: aspects: support constraints in string schemas <aspects> <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13142>
[14:05] <mup> PR snapd#13187 closed: osutil: unset SHELL variable to handle non-posix login shell in tests <Squash-merge> <Simple 😃> <Created by andrewphelpsj> <Merged by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13187>
[17:16] <mup> PR snapd#13190 opened: tests: increate the number of workers for nested test as workaround <Simple 😃> <Run nested> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13190>
[18:11] <mup> PR snapd#13191 opened: squashfs: enforce a minimum snap size to eliminate kernel log noise <Created by andrewphelpsj> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13191>
[18:36] <mup> PR snapd#13192 opened: docs: add genisoimage to list of packages needed to run spread <Created by andrewphelpsj> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13192>
[20:32] <mup> PR snapd#13179 closed: wrappers: enable activated services only if flag is set <Squash-merge> <Bug> <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13179>


[01:29] <head_victim> gorilla: sorry mate I went to bed around 1am local time. I'm a bit boring to be out all night partying ;)
[01:30] <gorilla> no worries. Happy new year anyway :-)
[01:30] <head_victim> Ah you're here. I was just pinging you due to the mailing list conversation
[01:30] <head_victim> I did end up working it out so now I have the dhcp, bind and lamp stuff running on the laptop
[01:31] <head_victim> I was wondering if there's anything else I needed to set up you could think of
[01:31] <gorilla> Yep.. just read about that.
[01:31] <head_victim> I'm flying blind here, I had to have someone else hack up example bind config files for me so I could get my head around it enouhg to make it work in one night.
[01:32] <gorilla> Umm not that I can think of. I guess plug in a computer into a totally isolated network and try to apt-get something.
[01:32] <head_victim> On the plus side, I've learnt lots.
[01:32] <head_victim> Yeah, I ahve to wait to redownload the repository for that final testing now :/ I broke the USB partition by resizing and moving it only to have the usb hub fall and disconnect everything half way through.
[01:32] <gorilla> you would. It would make a good HOWTO as the idea could be reused for other distros also.
[01:33] <head_victim> Unable to mount the drive now and gparted is taking hours to fsck it.
[01:33] <gorilla> you might be better to re-format the drive and start from fresh.
[01:34] <head_victim> Yeah, just hope it only takes 2 days to download the lot again like last time :)
[01:34] <head_victim> Nothing like leaving it to the last minute huh ;)
[01:36] <gorilla> hehe. Nothing is as motivating either :-)
[01:36] <head_victim> ext4 is still the bees knees for usb drives yeah?
[01:39] <gorilla> That would be my choice. I'm not an expert of file systems. Love ZFS but you need multiple drives for that :-)
[01:39] <head_victim> Or should I take this opportunity to move it to btrfs
[01:42] <gorilla> I don't know. I wouldn't break out exotic fliesystems if you have a dead line though :-)
[01:42] <head_victim> Fair call
[01:51] <head_victim> Alright, rsync my old mate, get to it.
[01:51] <head_victim> It's only 5-600gb :D
[02:20] <head_victim> Found my first flaw, apparently by default it uses security.ubuntu.com for security updates. I'd only counted on archives.u.c
[02:21] <gorilla> ahh. I though you had that covered :-P
[02:21] <head_victim> Nope, so now I'll have security.u.c and archive.u.c, anything else you can think of?
[02:24] <gorilla> umm. any worthy PPA's?
[02:32] <head_victim> medibuntu?
[02:42] <gorilla> could do.
[02:43] <sagaci> just copy over the libdvdcss2 deb
[02:45] <sagaci> and a libflashplayer.so
[02:45] <sagaci> and optionally the msttcorefonts
[03:06] <head_victim> The whole medibuntu repo is only a couple of gig
[03:11] <head_victim> aarnet is being so slow today :/ only 1.5. I'm starting to think more people have jumped on the hfc in my area lately :/
[03:13] <gorilla> heh. I'll pick up. just let it run and then run it again when it finishes.
[03:15] <head_victim> It's scary this laptop, when cpu scaling kicks in it drops as low as 600mhz. It's really odd seeing 0.6 on conky :/
[03:20] <gorilla> heh. :-)
[04:03] <gorilla> head_victim: what about putting ISOs on the USB drive also?
[04:35] <Fudge> head_victim  mine drops to 800, it sux hey
[04:35] <Fudge> else its 1500x4 but never seen it up to 2.4which is supposed to be amd turbo mode
[06:30] <head_victim> gorilla: the aarnet mirror that I rsync is an archive and release mirror so it already has all the iso's as well
[06:31] <head_victim> Fudge: this is a single core pentium M from 6 or 7 years ago ;)
[06:32]  * OutOfControl laughs as he is reading about making mirrors :P
[06:33] <OutOfControl> head_victim: btw there is #ubuntu-mirrors
[06:35] <head_victim> OutOfControl: yeah, I'm kinda doing a little more than that. I've had the mirror for a year or two I'm setting up a portable installfest machine on a laptop.
[06:35] <OutOfControl> Ok
[06:35] <OutOfControl> intellfest machine?
[06:36]  * OutOfControl is happy he is on holidays
[06:36] <head_victim> It's a lamp server with dhcp for all the other computers, bind to remap archive.u.c to a local computer where the USB mirror is located and obviously a webserver to run the feeding of the mirror back out
[06:37] <head_victim> Basically taking this an my 48 port router in with a wireless access point and hey presto, instant lan with a local mirror.
[06:37] <OutOfControl> 48!
[06:38] <head_victim> It's an old cisco 10/100 beast that I picked up of ebay for 10 buckws
[06:38] <OutOfControl> Cool
[06:38]  * OutOfControl has too look for a new ISP soonish
[06:39] <head_victim> What's wrong with your current one?
[06:39] <Fudge> tpg OutOfControl
[06:40] <OutOfControl> $50 for 3GB
[06:40] <Fudge> nice one head_victim , score, looked at cpufreqd?
[06:40] <Fudge> is it wireless OutOfControl
[06:40] <OutOfControl> Yeah
[06:40] <OutOfControl> Pre-paid :P
[06:40] <Fudge> liveconnected.com.au mate have awesome plans
[06:40] <Fudge> really well worth looking at
[06:41]  * head_victim is a Telstra fanboy
[06:41] <Fudge> 16.95 6000 free sms/mms national/international 1800 calls 3gig data
[06:41] <Fudge> allow tethering
[06:41] <head_victim> Fudge: I don't use it much so I just decided easier to let it be.
[06:41] <Fudge> yup
[06:41] <OutOfControl> head_victim: I have Telstra atm but I need to change from pre-paid
[06:41] <gorilla> head_victim: yes, I thought you'd be pulling from aarnet but it's very easy to say "Nope, don't need to isos."
[06:42] <head_victim> gorilla: yeah, but disk space is so cheap these days ;)
[06:42] <Fudge> hdd's went up
[06:42]  * OutOfControl is building a server
[06:43] <gorilla> head_victim: yep.. but data cap can still be annoying small.
[06:43] <head_victim> The initial setup rsync command I use it simply rsync -vtlrh --progress --stats --delete --exclude .~tmp~/ www.mirror.aarnet.edu.au::ubuntu /media/USBRepository/ubuntu
[06:43] <head_victim> gorilla: aarnet = free data for Telstra
[06:43] <OutOfControl> What plan do you have?
[06:44] <head_victim> OutOfControl: it doesn't matter, if you're on Bigpond anything other than prepaid, aarnet is free. Even on my wireless broadband aarnet is free data
[06:45] <OutOfControl> I meant is yours a good deal because anything is better then $50 for 3GB :P
[06:46] <head_victim> Oh I'm on HFC cable, I spend around 50 a month and get 50gb of metered usage but can often be double or more of that unmetered keeping the mirror synced.
[06:46] <head_victim> The wireless broadband I have is 10bucks a month for 400mb that I up to higher plans when I want to use it on holidays or whatever.
[06:46]  * OutOfControl screams
[06:48] <OutOfControl> If I got that 50GB would last me 10 months
[06:48] <head_victim> Yeah I only use abotu 20gb a month personally of metered usage
[06:48] <Fudge> my dls plan is 400gig adsl2+
[06:48] <Fudge> naked dsl with free voip and geographical phone number
[06:49] <head_victim> I'm boring though, not torrents or p2p for me. So by the time I sync the mirror unmetered there is only content usage for the wife and I left to be metered.
[06:50]  * OutOfControl doesn't do p2p nor torrents
[06:50] <Fudge> ah i like to downoad tv shows
[06:50] <OutOfControl> :p
[06:52] <OutOfControl> Fudge: Whos your ISP/ho much do you pay?
[06:53] <OutOfControl> head_victim: I am so sorry, but if possible could you please provide a link to your internet plan details?
[06:54] <Fudge> its netspace i.e iinet
[06:54] <OutOfControl> Thanks
[06:54] <Fudge> cant get tpg here so have to pay more i pay 89
[06:54] <Fudge> OutOfControl  did you look at liveconnected?
[06:55] <OutOfControl> I'll do that now
[06:55]  * OutOfControl is doing a UUD session
[06:57] <OutOfControl> iinet looks good
[06:58] <Fudge> yeah theyre not bad
[06:58]  * OutOfControl 's mum's best friend has them
[06:59] <head_victim> OutOfControl: I'm just on the 400mb bigpond wireless deal.  I think it's 30 a month without the discounts.
[06:59] <OutOfControl> and the cable?
[07:00] <head_victim> It's the standard telstra plan, again discounted due to having so much crap with them. It's aroudn 70 without discounts.
[07:00] <OutOfControl> Ok
[07:00] <head_victim> I pay 180 a month for wireless, cable, 2 mobiles and a landline.
[07:00] <Fudge> so how much do u end up committing to every month with telstra
[07:00] <Fudge> ah u already answered lol
[07:01] <OutOfControl> :P
[07:14]  * OutOfControl wonders if BigPong and Telstra are the same
[07:15] <head_victim> Telstra internet is for business, bigpond internet is for residential customers
[07:15] <head_victim> No free data on Telstra internet, only Bigpond.
[07:15] <OutOfControl> Ok, good
[07:15]  * OutOfControl always gets confused
[07:28] <ausernamegoesher> Unfortunately, I now have to have Windows on my main machine for gaming. GParted reckons it's going to be 7 hours to resize the partition to make space. The worst part isn't the wait - (although, 7hrs is a LOOOOONG time). The worst part is not knowing if my data is going to make it through. *crosses fingers*
[07:29] <OutOfControl> ausernamegoesher: How big does it have to resize/
[07:29] <OutOfControl> ?
[07:29] <ausernamegoesher> also, for some reason IRC wasn't recognising my Nick - but this is somethinginteres :)
[07:29] <ausernamegoesher> OutOfControl: Drive = 2TB currently 400GB of data
[07:29] <OutOfControl> Ah
[07:29] <ausernamegoesher> OutOfControl: That is, 400GB used
[07:29] <OutOfControl> Ok
[07:30] <OutOfControl> ausernamegoesher: How come IRC can't recognise your nick?
[07:30] <ausernamegoesher> OutOfControl: Not sure, the NickServ identify command didn't seem to register with Freenode for some reason
[07:30] <ausernamegoesher> OutOfControl: It just didn't respond
[07:30] <OutOfControl> Try /nick to it
[07:31] <ausernamegoesher> just "/nick myusername"?
[07:31] <OutOfControl> Yeah
[07:32] <OutOfControl> Just wondering does a NTS folder have anything to do with Ubuntu/Linux?
[07:32] <somethinginteres> OutOfControl: there we go. Thanks
[07:33] <OutOfControl> No problems
[07:35] <somethinginteres> OutOfControl: Do you have any knowleadge of GParted? Does 7hrs sound like a reasonable timeframe to resize that size drive with that data or does it sound like a Defcon 12 emergency? lol
[07:36] <head_victim> somethinginteres: sounds normal
[07:36] <head_victim> I tried to resize and move 1tb and it was going to take a day or so.
[07:36] <head_victim> I ended up formatting and starting over
[07:39] <OutOfControl> lol
[07:39] <head_victim> Fortunately this was the repository mirror so it's not hard to replace the data
[07:40] <OutOfControl> How big is your mirror/hard drive?
[07:40] <OutOfControl> for it
[07:41] <head_victim> 1tb, I think it only needs 500gb or so though
[07:41] <OutOfControl> Nice
[07:42]  * OutOfControl might set one up for fun once he changes ISPs
[07:44] <OutOfControl> head_victim: how did you learn to builds the mirror?
[07:44] <head_victim> rsync is all you need to get the data
[07:44] <OutOfControl> ok
[07:45] <OutOfControl> So would I just run:
[07:45] <OutOfControl> rsync -vtlrh --progress --stats --delete --exclude .~tmp~/ www.mirror.aarnet.edu.au::ubuntu /media/USBRepository/ubuntu
[07:45] <OutOfControl> Each day
[07:46] <head_victim> Depending on where you want your mirror change the last part
[07:46] <OutOfControl> Yep
[07:46] <head_victim> And I've found you need the --exclude for the aarnet mirror but if you use another I'm not sure if you still need it
[07:46] <OutOfControl> It sounds fun
[07:47] <OutOfControl> what does --exclude do?
[07:47] <head_victim> And if you don't --delete it will grow over time (as I found out the hardway, wondering why 1tb was running out of space)
[07:47] <OutOfControl> --delete deletes old packages right?
[07:47] <head_victim> the "-exclude .~tmp~/" skips the folders with .~tmp~ in them
[07:47] <OutOfControl> Ah ok
[07:47] <head_victim> the --delete makes it delete anything that's not currently on the source
[07:48] <OutOfControl> cool
[07:48] <head_victim> What I found was if you rsync when aarnet was syncing it would have a few tmps and stuff
[07:48] <somethinginteres> head_victim: Good to hear it sounds normal. :)
[07:50] <head_victim> somethinginteres: yeah it blew me away as well
[07:50]  * OutOfControl hates Windows and NTS
[07:51] <somethinginteres> head_victim: yeah, crazy. Upon reflection I should've let it run over night.
[07:51] <head_victim> somethinginteres: I did and it was still running :P
[07:52]  * OutOfControl is proberly going to make a tiny bit of money fixing a Win laptop
[07:52] <somethinginteres> head_victim: LOL
[07:54] <head_victim> Yay, the sync is up to 2.5MB/s
[07:58] <jargonfactory> folks, have a great 0x7dc!
[08:00] <jargonfactory> as christel says, let it be the year of troll! :)
[08:02] <OutOfControl> lol
[08:08] <jargonfactory> :)
[08:09] <sagaci> head_victim: I might try that aarnet rsync thing over my 3G connection
[08:09] <head_victim> sagaci: go for it, as long as it's not prepaid it's unmetered
[08:10] <sagaci> bigpond 8
[08:10] <sagaci> 8)
[08:10] <sagaci> I have 1gig left til next thursday so I don't see why 500GB will hurt
[08:11] <head_victim> Hah so are you prepaid or not?
[08:11] <sagaci> bigpond, so postpaid
[08:11] <head_victim> Ah cool, well it'll be unmetered, but you'll chew 60 - 80 gb keeping it synced a month after the initial download
[08:12] <sagaci> have you partitioned your home backup repo or is it just a folder on the disk
[08:31] <OutOfControl> head_victim: So aer you going to have a web server running for the repo?
[08:31]  * OutOfControl just saw the list
[08:47] <head_victim> OutOfControl: yeah it's already working on the laptop
[08:47] <head_victim> My next step is to get the repo downloaded so I can actually test it to make sure it will work
[08:51] <head_victim> I'm thinking of sittin gin the lounge tonight and making up 20 or so network cables to take to make sure there's enough
[09:02] <OutOfControl> :P
[09:02]  * OutOfControl would of just made it a DirAlias in Apache as its easier
[09:03] <head_victim> Meh I have no idea what I'm doing, so I'm doing it whatever way I can get help to make it work :)
[09:04] <OutOfControl> :P
[09:08] <head_victim> Ah well 50gb in to the resync of the mirror
[09:08] <OutOfControl> :p
[09:08] <OutOfControl> How many more days is it?
[09:09] <OutOfControl> Until the install fest
[09:10] <sagaci> 6
[09:10] <OutOfControl> So the day before the meeting :P
[09:29] <OutOfControl> head_victim: Do you know if Optus has access to a unmetred mirror?
[09:30]  * OutOfControl is asking this because his mothly budget is $50 for internet and Bigpond is 60-70+
[09:34] <head_victim> OutOfControl: not to my knowledge, last I checked they had a mirror but it was metered
[09:34] <head_victim> I'd look at internode/iinet for those sort of prices
[09:34] <OutOfControl> Ok
[09:34] <head_victim> If it's a stand alone internet not bundled with anythign Telstra is going to not be cheap
[09:35] <OutOfControl> Yeah, I just found that out :P
[09:35] <head_victim> If it's for your parents and they already have other Telstra products then bear in mind the prices you see can be reduced by about 20 - 30 a month
[09:35] <OutOfControl> Na we don't
[09:36]  * OutOfControl also needs WiFi for his iPad
[09:48]  * OutOfControl is very mad at a Optus Sales person not knowing if there provided a unmetred mirror
[09:53] <OutOfControl> I am seeing things?
[09:59] <OutOfControl> head_victim:  ^^
[10:00] <head_victim> What did I miss?
[10:00] <OutOfControl> I'll show you my paste
[10:01] <OutOfControl> head_victim: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/789484/
[10:01] <OutOfControl> Somethings up in it
[10:01] <OutOfControl> my client didn't see you part so you are now doubles
[10:02] <head_victim> Hah lucky you?
[10:02] <OutOfControl> No!!
[10:02] <OutOfControl> ;p
[10:03] <OutOfControl> head_victim I'm sorry but could you please help me for a minute?
[10:03] <head_victim> Hang on climbing around udner desks pulling otu cables
[10:03] <OutOfControl> ok
[10:16] <OutOfControl> Dumb client
[10:16] <OutOfControl> .j #ubuntu-beginners-team,#ubuntu-beginners,#ubuntu-au-chat,#touchlay
[10:16] <OutOfControl> sorry
[10:28] <head_victim> sort of back
[10:29] <OutOfControl> head_victim: I've fixed the problem now P
[10:30]  * OutOfControl thinks he has found the plan he will ask his parents
[10:30] <OutOfControl> $30 10Gb on peak, 10Gb off
[10:30] <OutOfControl> +$30 phone :P
[10:31] <OutOfControl> iinrt
[10:31] <OutOfControl> iinrt*
[10:31] <OutOfControl> iinet*
[10:31]  * OutOfControl hates this keyboard
[10:34] <head_victim> 30 for mobile or landline?
[10:35] <OutOfControl> landline
[10:35] <OutOfControl> Plus they have a unmetred mirror/portal
[10:36] <head_victim> You in Melbourne?
[10:36] <head_victim> Are you able to get hfc?
[10:36] <OutOfControl> hfc?
[10:36] <jmscomtech> howdy all
[10:36] <head_victim> telstra or optus cable
[10:36] <jmscomtech> happy new years
[10:37]  * OutOfControl thinks so
[10:37] <head_victim> http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/isp-1-1/telstra-bigpond-cable.htm?p=21926
[10:37] <OutOfControl> Ok
[10:37] <head_victim> For that you can get 50gb cable on 100/2 cable and a landline for 80 a month
[10:37] <jmscomtech> does anyone know why my razer naga mouse keeps overheating ? using ubuntu 11.10 and in adelaide its hit 40 c for past few days, but few mins on and its hot
[10:38] <head_victim> jmscomtech: faulty one? (happy new years)
[10:38] <OutOfControl> Well our budget is $50-60
[10:38] <OutOfControl> Gotta go everyone see you all tomorrow
[10:40] <jmscomtech> head_victim: no its fine just for some reason the past few days its been overheating i assume it may be to do with the heat wave we are in
[11:49] <head_victim> jmscomtech: hmm sounds a bit odd, only when it's charging or all the time?
[11:50] <jmscomtech> its fine now with a fan blowing around the room but seems to be all the time but my mobile broadband [telstra elite] device is same as well so im assuming its the heat
[11:51] <jmscomtech> i think the high dpi laser is overheating the mouse
[11:51] <jmscomtech> will the windows application for razer mouse work within wine to change the mouse settings or not realy?
[11:53] <gorilla> jmscomtech: probably not really. unless you are changing the info in the mouse itself.
[11:56] <jmscomtech> well i assume from razer products that they store the devices settings in the memory buffer of the product
[11:56] <jmscomtech> as the maurauder keyboard is still keyed into my configuration as is the mouse
[11:56] <jmscomtech> in terms of lighting and speed
[11:58] <gorilla> okay.. I guess it's worth a try. Otherwise move the computer table into a freezer :-P
[12:06] <jmscomtech> yeah get a better fan
[12:07] <jmscomtech> im actually happy my cpu is watercooled as its surviving in this heat
[12:28] <head_victim> jmscomtech: how old is it, if it's fairly new I'd be asking for a replacement
[12:30] <jmscomtech> bout 2 years old
[12:31] <head_victim> I could understand if it was while it was chargning, a lot of batteries heat up when being charged. If it's just in normal use, I'd say it's defective. Heatwave or not if it's too warm to be comfortable it's not functioning as it should be.


[03:20] <pmp6nl> Hello, I wanted to report that the website countdown banners are not updating.
[03:26] <pleia2> yeah, I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-branding/+bug/869602 last night about it but haven't heard anything
[03:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 869602 in ubuntu-website-content (and 1 other project) "Upload Ubuntu 11.10 countdown banners (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[03:28] <mhall119> nigelb: need you to update some blueprints from UDS-O: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/u/nigelbabu.html
[03:29] <mhall119> pleia2: newz2000 was working on those a week or two ago, I'll ask him in the morning
[03:30] <pleia2> mhall119: yeah, sladen had me create that ticket late last week, so they finally got them up, but now they just don't work
[03:34] <pmp6nl> ok cool.  It looks like the ticket status needs to be changed
[12:53] <daker> YoBoY, http://www.lemague.net/dyn/spip.php?article7898
[14:40] <newz2000> ok, the countdown banner if fixed
[14:44] <mhall119> pleia2: ^^
[14:45] <pleia2> thank you :)
[19:01] <YoBoY> daker: thanks for the link, but ... ^^"
[19:02] <daker> ツ