[09:38] <ogra> Konlied: the quickest is to download the iso
[09:38] <ogra> Konlied: the easiest is to order CDs for free and wait 6weeks
[09:38] <Konlied> if not..?
[09:38] <Konlied> heh
[09:38] <bestadvocate> Konlied: toooooo long dont wait!
[09:39] <ogra> Konlied: shipit.ubuntu.com if you dont have broadband....they are entirely free (incl. shipping)
[09:39] <bestadvocate> has anyone here ever used jigdo?
[09:40] <Konlied> but then that for debian so I'm niot sure if its relevant
[09:40] <bestadvocate> ahh, the amount of bandwidth saved made it seem apealing but you have staved me off Konlied
[09:41] <bestadvocate> konlied how slow is the download going?
[09:42] <Konlied> it was at 4.6 (I should be getting ~50k norm).. try again
[09:42] <bestadvocate> bummer, i normally get 5.5 but now im getting 12
[09:43] <ogra> Konlied: there are different mirrors listed on the ubuntu site....
[09:43] <Konlied> yeah I'm hitting up http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/4.10/release/ (37KBps ... 8)
[09:44] <bestadvocate> only 7 hours 45 min till i am ridding that whory hedgehog
[09:44] <bestadvocate> ride sonic ride
[09:45] <Konlied> heh, isn't it a somewhat minor release?
[09:45] <bestadvocate> but it gives me new stuff! new means better right?
[09:46] <Konlied> mind you, debain users like me shouldn't talk about stable releases
[09:46] <BugS> hi, im having this weird problems with my mouse
[09:46] <BugS> it stucks on a random time at the left upper corner of my screen
[09:46] <bestadvocate> BugS :well try feeding it
[09:46] <ogra> bestadvocate: it is highly unstable....are you sure you really want this ?
[09:47] <BugS> and all i can do is move it real slow. any acceleration results in the cursor being moved back in the corner
[09:47] <bestadvocate> yah i like reporting bugs
[09:47] <ogra> bestadvocate: just to warn you ;)
[09:47] <BugS> it is an USB mouse
[09:47] <randabis> heh
[09:47] <randabis> I like my warty
[09:47] <bestadvocate> orga: plus nothing like a good system crash to accelerate the learning curve
[09:47] <ogra> heh
[09:47] <Konlied> bestadvocate: list of changes http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[09:48] <Konlied> release adds apache.. odd since apache is quite hard to set up
[09:48] <Konlied> xampp all the way baby
[09:49] <bestadvocate> oooooh abiword 2.2.2
[09:49] <spikeb> heh
[09:49] <spikeb> ubuntu traffic is always behind
[09:49] <bestadvocate> indeed
[09:50] <Konlied> I was wondering if I can update ubuntu versions using apt or spm?
[09:50] <bestadvocate> yah apt works fine
[09:51] <bestadvocate> thats how i am installing hoary, i am using apt
[09:51] <Konlied> doing that with debian unstable messed my system so here I am
[09:51] <bestadvocate> :]
[09:52] <bestadvocate> I need to give debian a second shot, havent tried it since over a year ago
[09:52] <Konlied> yay for smaller release cycles
[09:52] <bestadvocate> when sarge comes out i will give it a shot
[09:52] <bestadvocate> then switch to sid :}
[09:53] <Konlied> Despite what they are saying the installer is still no better
[09:53] <Konlied> (that's on TCv3)
[09:54] <jmob> bestadvocate: hahahaha, you're assuming that sarge is actually going to come out!
[09:54] <Konlied> I get the feeling most of us here are bitter ex debian users
[09:55] <jmob> Konlied: I still use it, but at work, and we use sarge.
[09:55] <bestadvocate> not me i never got a working debian :]
[09:55] <spikeb> me? i'm not bitter.
[09:55] <spikeb> i just don't like the assholes
[09:55] <spikeb> :)
[09:57] <dabaslon> hey you guys know how to compile java with gcj?
[09:57] <dabaslon> And set the whole thing up on the Ubuntu...
[09:57] <jmob> http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Jan/bch20030129018402.htm
[09:58] <bestadvocate> dabaslon: whats java?
[09:58] <TTilus> bestadvocate: kinda coffee...
[09:58] <d3vic3> bestadvocate: a programming language
[09:59] <ezduzit> coffee...mmmmm
[09:59] <Konlied> jmob: it'
[09:59] <bestadvocate> i think its also i kind of really short homo-erectus
[09:59] <jmob> dabaslon: Do you have gcj installed?
[10:00] <jmob> dabaslon: do you want to -compile- (to machine code) or byte-compile to jvm byte code?
[10:01] <ezduzit> .
[10:02] <bestadvocate> im patial to caffeen with bubles
[10:02] <jmob> Konlied: seems bonkers?
[10:02] <ezduzit> anybody know anything about asla?
[10:02] <krix> hey
[10:02] <Konlied> I didn't think you could compile to anything but bytecode
[10:02] <bob2> Konlied: gcj compiles it to machine code
[10:02] <bob2> ezduzit: it should be setup automatically for you already
[10:03] <Konlied> but.. that goes against the principles of java, no?
[10:03] <dabaslon> i WANT TO COMPILE like with javac
[10:03] <dabaslon> I think...
[10:03] <jmob> dabaslon: that's not that hard
[10:04] <dabaslon> @ my school we just so can you walk me through?
[10:04] <dabaslon> scratch that.
[10:04] <dabaslon> so can you walk me through?
[10:04] <seek187> Is the menu editor broke in hoary?
[10:04] <ezduzit> i'm trying to listen to an audio cd. it's not happening.
[10:05] <ezduzit> it plays but no sound. mp3 on hardrive play fine
[10:05] <dabaslon> im listening to some boring song...
[10:05] <dabaslon> :)))
[10:05] <dabaslon> jmob:so can you walk me through?
[10:05] <bob2> ezduzit: sounds like your cd drive isn't plugged into your sound card
[10:05] <jmob> dabaslon: http://www.sunsite.ualberta.ca/Documentation/Gnu/gcc-3.0.2/html_node/gcj_6.html#SEC6
[10:05] <bob2> dabaslon: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, there's a section on java
[10:06] <jmob> dabaslon: I haven't read that, but it looks decent
[10:06] <dabaslon> Does this describe all the installation, and all?
[10:06] <dabaslon> k
[10:06] <jmob> dabaslon: I found that with google btw
[10:06] <ezduzit> well i'm a newbie...but a friend told me to type some stuff...and it came up my asla files
[10:07] <bob2> I really don't think your problem is related to ALSA.
[10:08] <ezduzit> does anyone know anything about azla?
[10:08] <ezduzit> thanks...alsa
[10:08] <jmob> ezduzit: that doesn't sound like an alsa problem
[10:09] <jmob> ezduzit: if you already have sound it sounds like you don't have your cd-rom drive hooked up to your sound card.
[10:09] <zenrox> ezduzit,  or your vol for your cdrom is so low
[10:10] <ezduzit> ok then.
[10:10] <ezduzit> must be it's not conected because i adjusted the mixer
[10:11] <jmob> ezduzit: there's a cable that goes directly from your CD-ROM to your sound card, if it's not there's only a few players that can ``emulate'' it being there.
[10:12] <randabis> hmm
[10:13] <dabaslon> Do you think the gcj compiles like javac, meaning source can be same?
[10:13] <bob2> ezduzit: try 'totem cdda://' i na terminal, no quotes.
[10:13] <dabaslon> should be...
[10:13] <bob2> dabaslon: no
[10:13] <dabaslon> anyhow.
[10:13] <dabaslon> no?
[10:13] <dabaslon> serious?
[10:13] <dabaslon> cant be..
[10:13] <bob2> a) gcj compiles to machine code, not java byte code
[10:14] <bob2> b) gcj isn't sun's java, and is probably incomaptibile in some small ways
[10:14] <bob2> c) gcj uses classpath, which is not a complete implementation of sun's java standard library
[10:14] <bob2> if this is for school, use sun's java
[10:14] <jmob> bob2: as long as it produces byte code to spec it should run any JVM
[10:14] <bob2> yes, I know
[10:15] <ezduzit> i have a wire that runs to the motherboard and a wire that runs from the motherboard to the soundcard
[10:15] <jmob> classpath is compatable with JDK 1.0 supposedly :)
[10:17] <dabaslon> you think I should?
[10:17] <dabaslon> serious?
[10:17] <jmob> dabaslon: is this for school?
[10:17] <dabaslon> I was hoping its the same thing.
[10:17] <dabaslon> This....
[10:17] <dabaslon> :)))))))
[10:17] <dabaslon> k...
[10:18] <dabaslon> Its for HIGHer learning.
[10:18] <dabaslon> so you think go for javac?
[10:18] <dabaslon> which java do I download?
[10:18] <jmob> dabaslon: wtf that means, use Sun's JDK, it's going to be more reliable, unless you have a free software bug up your ass it's going to be easier to deal with.
[10:18] <dabaslon> on the site...
[10:18] <dabaslon> theres many
[10:19] <dabaslon> haha
[10:19] <dabaslon> cool stuff....
[10:19] <dabaslon> higher learning means I wanna learn it school or no school.....
[10:20] <dabaslon> but thanks.
[10:20] <dabaslon> :)
[10:20] <tam_> hello
[10:20] <Emanuelez> hello * :)
[10:21] <tam_> how many people on x-chat
[10:21] <Emanuelez> tam_: me is one of them :)
[10:22] <tam_> which country you in ?
[10:22] <krix> italy :P :)
[10:23] <krix> hm in hoary is there any j2re package ?
[10:23] <krix> or just do the way what says the ubuntuguide?
[10:23] <tam_> don't know
[10:23] <jmob> tam_: irssi
[10:23] <Emanuelez> tam_: italy
[10:24] <tam_> Australia
[10:27] <ezduzit> my cd drives are connected to my soundcard. I'm looking at my console right now. what programs can imulate whatever it is I need?
[10:28] <jmob> ezduzit: gnome-cd doesn't work?
[10:28] <dabaslon> krix, you want a sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_i386.deb?
[10:29] <dabaslon> Hey, is that the one I need?
[10:29] <ezduzit> it's just the cd player
[10:29] <krix> dabaslon, maybe yes ?
[10:29] <krix> dabaslon, is there in hoary ?
[10:29] <ezduzit> not sound juicer or sound recorder
[10:29] <ezduzit> ubuntu's cd player
[10:31] <dabaslon> I dont know, I have that one, for some reason...
[10:31] <dabaslon> :)
[10:31] <dabaslon> Someone gave it, or I got it somewhere...
[10:31] <krix> dabaslon, not requied
[10:31] <krix> i installed by hand :)
[10:31] <krix> btw thx.
[10:32] <dabaslon> sure...
[10:32] <krix> but another problem. Installed mozilla-firefox frm hoary
[10:32] <krix> installed flashplayer plugin. But now when i went to a flash site
[10:32] <krix> then firefox freeze :)
[10:32] <dabaslon> heh..
[10:32] <dabaslon> thats cause youre living on the bleeding edge...
[10:32] <dabaslon> hahaha
[10:32] <krix> haha :)
[10:33] <dabaslon> thats ffrom the site...
[10:33] <dabaslon> I wish I knew how to compile java on my computer...
[10:33] <dabaslon> Ive had this OS for a while and still nothing...
[10:33] <ezduzit> i wish i knew how to play and listen to a cd
[10:34] <dabaslon> it suck anyhow...
[10:34] <dabaslon> you have warty?
[10:34] <d3vic3> erm
[10:34] <ezduzit> yup
[10:34] <dabaslon> Whats not working for you, software?
[10:35] <d3vic3> dabaslon, do you have j2sdk installed ?
[10:35] <dabaslon> Im trying to figure howto...
[10:35] <dabaslon> the installation, everything.
[10:35] <d3vic3> well
[10:35] <dabaslon> yeey
[10:35] <d3vic3> sudo apt-get install j2sdk
[10:35] <dabaslon> thx
[10:36] <dabaslon> funk/
[10:36] <dabaslon> again missing package...
[10:36] <d3vic3> I think it is in multiverse though, so u might wanna edit the sources file
[10:36] <dabaslon> how...
[10:38] <d3vic3> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:38] <ezduzit> ok then. i can't figure it out. my systom must not like Ubuntu.
[10:38] <brokenladder> i'm brand spanking new to ubuntu.  loving it but i have some questions.
[10:38] <brokenladder> how do i set up a password for my root account?
[10:38] <dabaslon> k without sudo is fine, im logged as root.
[10:39] <bob2> brokenladder: the FAQ in the topic explains it
[10:39] <dabaslon> which one do I add?
[10:39] <bob2> but you don't need to
[10:39] <dabaslon> the one from the site?
[10:39] <brokenladder> don't need to?
[10:39] <bob2> ezduzit: no, it's your hardware missing something.  xmms and xmms-cdread should work fine, as will gnome-cd in hoary.
[10:39] <brokenladder> i want to do stuff that only root can do.
[10:39] <Xof> hello
[10:39] <brokenladder> like chown through massive directories.
[10:40] <brokenladder> i'll read the faq for now.
[10:40] <Xof> I've heard that ubuntu maintainers are having difficulty with sbcl (which would unblock a wodge of cl-foo dependencies).  Is this right?
[10:40] <ezduzit> thank you bob2 for listening
[10:40] <bob2> brokenladder: then you use sudo.
[10:41] <ezduzit> where can I get/find out more about what I need?
[10:41] <bob2> Xof: try #ubuntu-devel, but I believe it's been discussed on the list in the past.
[10:41] <Xof> Thanks.  I will.  (I'm "upstream" for sbcl)
[10:42] <d3vic3> bob2, do you know what source is sun-j2sk1.5 from ?
[10:42] <brokenladder> how can i use sudo if i haven't made a root password yet?
[10:42] <krix> brokenladder, login with your username
[10:42] <krix> then do a
[10:42] <krix> sudo su -
[10:42] <krix> type your user password and then you will be root
[10:42] <scoon> d3vic3, dpkg -p sun-j2sdk1.5debian
[10:42] <krix> then you can change the root password.
[10:43] <d3vic3> dabaslon, are you following ?
[10:43] <ezduzit> where can I get help?
[10:43] <zenrox> krix,  even easer sudo -s
[10:43] <krix> zenrox, what you like :)
[10:43] <dabaslon> not really got lost...let me read bac
[10:44] <brokenladder> thanks so much
[10:44] <krix> np
[10:44] <brokenladder> gawd..ubuntu kicks my slackware desktop's ass.
[10:44] <d3vic3> scoon, says package not available
[10:44] <jholdt> is ubuntu deb based?
[10:44] <scoon> d3vic3, have you enabled multivers ?
[10:44] <krix> jholdt, yep :)
[10:44] <jholdt> i mean deb package management system
[10:45] <dabaslon> what do I add, i didnt get it, you dont know yet, right...
[10:45] <d3vic3> yup
[10:45] <krix> hm a question. In ubuntu the hoary branch is like debian's sid branch ?
[10:45] <krix> i mean this is the development tree or something else ?
[10:45] <krix> right ?
[10:45] <scoon> d3vic3, try apt-cache search j2sdk
[10:45] <bob2> d3vic3: no, sorry...
[10:45] <d3vic3> i did
[10:45] <bob2> d3vic3: 'apt-cache policy sun-j2sk1.5' will tell you
[10:45] <d3vic3> it shows it there
[10:45] <krix> d3vic3, did an apt-get update after modifing sources.list ?
[10:45] <krix> :)
[10:46] <ezduzit> where can i get help? hell?
[10:46] <d3vic3> yes
[10:46] <krix> ezduzit, about what ????
[10:46] <d3vic3> yes kurtw
[10:46] <bob2> ezduzit: try asking on the user list.
[10:46] <no0tic> hi1
[10:46] <d3vic3> yes krix
[10:46] <krix> d3vic3, okay. :)
[10:46] <ezduzit> thank you
[10:47] <dabaslon> im goin to sleep...
[10:47] <d3vic3> hmmm
[10:47] <krix> dabaslon, good night :)
[10:47] <scoon> d3vic3, I am running hoary and for what it is worth I get E: Broken packages
[10:47] <randabis> heh
[10:47] <d3vic3> heh
[10:47] <scoon> d3vic3, it probably doesn't matter much since the packages are broken.
[10:47] <dabaslon> thanks.
[10:48] <randabis> I run warty
[10:48] <scoon> d3vic3, I just installed my from sun. Put it in /opt and added some vars to /etc/profile
[10:48] <d3vic3> scoon, tough
[10:48] <scoon> d3vic3,  ?
[10:48] <randabis> made a boo boo earlier and was accidently pointing to the hoary universe and multiverse in my sources.list
[10:48] <d3vic3> hmm
[10:48] <randabis> broke a lot of things, but I've got it all sorted out now
[10:49] <d3vic3> getting it from sun is not an option, since i'm hacking apt-*
[10:49] <d3vic3> getting it from sun is not an option, since i'm hacking apt-get
[10:49] <randabis> except I can't get gdesklets working...I open it, it loads, then quits
[10:50] <d3vic3> scoon, I'm south african, sometimes you will not understand me
[10:50] <d3vic3> heh
[10:50] <scoon> d3vic3, whatever that means. somebody has to get them from there at some point.
[10:50] <d3vic3> yeah
[10:52] <jholdt> when i boot the warty install disc the install freezes at the language selection screen and there are two white lines, one spanning the top of the screen, the other the bottom
[10:53] <jholdt> sounds like a graphics problem, though thats silly that it'd have a problem with that... i'm using a sapphire radeon 9200 atlantis
[10:54] <jholdt> and its seriously frozen, even the numlock key doesnt toggle on/off
[10:54] <randabis> heh ati sucks for linux
[10:55] <krix> randabis, exactly :)
[10:55] <brokenladder> what is this "colours" crap in my desktop background settings?!
[10:55] <brokenladder> it's "colors"
[10:56] <brokenladder> can't the creators of this software spell?
[10:56] <jholdt> broken: not all english speakers in the world are american
[10:57] <randabis> hmm
[10:58] <no0tic> randabis: it's not a news :)
[10:58] <brokenladder> but "colour" is some fringe old school way of writing.
[10:58] <randabis> anyone have any experience with vlc?
[10:58] <brokenladder> that's not the way you'd see it written in a science journal.
[10:58] <randabis> particularly vlc-gnome
[10:58] <no0tic> brokenladder: it's british.
[10:58] <brokenladder> i know!
[10:58] <randabis> err gnome-vlc
[10:58] <brokenladder> that's not proper spelling.
[10:58] <jholdt> does it madder?
[10:58] <jholdt> :D
[10:59] <jholdt> yes, i know... i did it just for you ;)
[10:59] <randabis> just wondering because the playlist seems to work funky
[10:59] <brokenladder> anyway, how can i change my desktop resolution and make it stick?  do i need to edit the x.org config manually?
[10:59] <randabis> you can't scroll it with the mouse and using the arrows doesn't make it scroll down
[11:00] <jholdt> ok, ubuntu crashing at cli gui setup is just silly
[11:00] <bob2> jholdt: if you're sure your hardware is good, please file a bug
[11:01] <jholdt> it is, how?
[11:01] <bob2> brokenladder: the detecttion didn't work?
[11:01] <x66221_> newbie question for anyone: I want to COPY ALL files and folders in /home/a to /home/b  how do I do that?
[11:01] <bob2> jholdt: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:01] <bob2> x66221_: cd /home/a ; cp -r . /home/b
[11:02] <murtaza> any idea abt novel client for ubuntu box
[11:02] <x66221_> ok, thanks
[11:04] <brokenladder> bob2, i don't know what you mean by detection.
[11:05] <brokenladder> it's in 1600x1200 and i'd like it a little lower since this monitor is really small
[11:05] <jholdt> wow, gotta love the ubuntu bugzilla account creation
[11:06] <brokenladder> well, thanks for the help and goodnight.  glad to be an ubuntu user.  things going well so far tonight.
[11:06] <brokenladder> best linux installr i've ever seen.
[11:06] <brokenladder> including red hat, mandrake, slackware, etc.
[11:06] <brokenladder> it might even rival the beos installer.
[11:06] <bob2> brokenladder: try installing gnome-xrandr and using the panel applet
[11:07] <brokenladder> i think i'll just run xorgconf
[11:07] <brokenladder> no biggie.
[11:07] <brokenladder> bonan nokton
[11:07] <brokenladder> (esperanto for "good night")
[11:07] <jholdt> definately very well thought out... one giant step towards linux being a word grandma knows
[11:07] <brokenladder> exactly.
[11:07] <brokenladder> yet wthout the microsoftness of fedora. :)
[11:07] <randabis> yessir, it's really now
[11:07] <randabis> nice
[11:08] <randabis> best debian-based distro I've ever used
[11:08] <brokenladder> i wish the default for metacity was wireframe move/resize though. you have to use gconf editor to set that.
[11:08] <jholdt> gotta give knoppix some brownie points though
[11:08] <krix> mhmm
[11:08] <krix> what is the module name that is requied for writing cdroms on a 2.6.X based kernel series ,
[11:08] <krix> ?
[11:09] <bob2> ide-cd
[11:09] <bob2> which is already loaded
[11:09] <krix> hmm
[11:09] <bob2> cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso, or the equivalent in your gui of choice
[11:09] <krix> ah
[11:09] <krix> btw scanbus didn't find anything
[11:09] <jholdt> hmm... its taking forever to get my email from bugzilla...
[11:10] <jholdt> heh, and there it is
[11:10] <bob2> ignore scanbus, you don't need it
[11:10] <krix> ah
[11:10] <krix> okay.
[11:10] <x66221_> bob2: in "cp -r . /home/b" what is the purpose of the period?  of course it worked fine, I'm just wanting to understand.
[11:11] <bob2> x66221_: . = current directory
[11:11] <bob2> x66221_: you could have alternativel yrun 'cp -r /home/a /home/b'
[11:11] <x66221_> ok
[11:11] <krix> bob2, thanks. working fine
[11:16] <no0tic> can anyone suggest me a good latex editor?
[11:16] <mjr> emacs ;)
[11:17] <thisfred> no0tic: you mean wysiwig?
[11:17] <no0tic> thisfred: no
[11:17] <jholdt> how can i use a generic video driver to see if thats the problem thats making setup crash?
[11:17] <thisfred> oh ok, in that case emacs
[11:17] <thisfred> or vi
[11:17] <krix> bye
[11:17] <markus_> Hi. It seems that though ubuntu-calendar-january (5.01) is available, the meta-package ubuntu-calendar was not updated (4.12). Anybody knows something about this?
[11:17] <trey3> no0tic: taken a look at 'glimmer'?
[11:17] <no0tic> trey3: I will
[11:18] <thisfred> there is texmacs, which is neither latex nor emacs exactly but looks impressive (never used it)
[11:18] <mjr> markus_, hmh, it is for me
[11:19] <markus_> Your ubuntu-calendar has version 5.01? (Strange, since I've just updated the package list using the official archive.ubuntu.com repositories...)
[11:21] <x66221_> where's the proper directory to install something like Mozilla Firefox?
[11:21] <highvoltage> for the versions from mozilla.org?
[11:21] <bob2> it's already installed
[11:22] <highvoltage> I usually put them in /opt
[11:22] <bob2> if you mean "install random thing from tarball", /usr/local/blah/ is a good choice
[11:22] <x66221_> ok
[11:44] <x66221> ANYONE: is there a similar irc channel for mandrake?
[11:45] <wezzer> x66221: #mandrake maybe?
[11:45] <x66221> sure enough!  sorry :)
[12:04] <sereNity> hi
[12:04] <no0tic> hi
[12:04] <sereNity> my ubuntu cd (ordered) exploded in my cd rom drive.
[12:05] <no0tic> sereNity: ?
[12:05] <sereNity> i have fotos
[12:05] <skyweb> hi
[12:05] <esher> lol sereNity ?
[12:05] <esher> pls give us some pictures :)
[12:06] <sereNity> kk
[12:06] <sereNity> where can i upload?
[12:06] <esher> 1mom
[12:06] <skyweb> after install ubuntu warty my laptop start with runlevel 2 and don't have root password (what's the default?)
[12:07] <no0tic> esher: lmom? what does it mean?
[12:07] <esher> one mom
[12:07] <esher> one moment
[12:07] <no0tic> skyweb: it's the default
[12:07] <no0tic> esher: 1 mom not l mom :)
[12:08] <skyweb> no0tic: can you give me! :)
[12:08] <esher> hehe no0tic
[12:08] <esher> :P
[12:08] <no0tic> skyweb: to do administration tasks you are supposed to use sudo (the user you created during installation is in /etc/sudoers)
[12:09] <no0tic> skyweb: root account is disabled
[12:10] <skyweb> no0tic: when use sudo <command> ubuntu request password!
[12:10] <no0tic> skyweb: your password, not root password!
[12:10] <skyweb> ops
[12:10] <skyweb> it's ok
[12:12] <esher> whats the "peon" user in default etc/sudoers
[12:12] <no0tic> skyweb: ubuntuguide.org & the wiki on the official site are a good doc source :)
[12:12] <esher> ?
[12:15] <RavingIdiot> Morning all
[12:21] <esher> https://www.debianshells.de/ubuntu_explode/
[12:22] <maswan> esher: Don't sit on it. My sister already discovered that.
[12:23] <nyxtreme> does anyone know a windows emulator for ubuntu that allows me to use window applications and games?
[12:23] <esher> nyxtreme, wine ?
[12:24] <no0tic> nyxtreme: crossover office for apps, cedega for games
[12:24] <Fyren> Salut / hi
[12:25] <NyXtreme> esher: I tried wine, it's too confusing lol
[12:25] <NyXtreme> no0tic: I'll try them, thanks
[12:25] <Fyren> Is there anyone speack french here ? :o
[12:26] <bob2> try #ubuntu-fr
[12:26] <sjoerd> Fyren: try #ubuntu-fr, should be lots there :)
[12:26] <Fyren> Thx :)
[12:27] <Fyren> lol 35 people on ubuntu-fr 294 here :o
[12:27] <rsacherer> Hello! i really LOVE ubuntu!!! hoary rocks! --> and my question is: MrProject/Planner in Ubuntu has the ability to store the Projectplan in a postgredatabase, i installed the sql-schema on my database server, but i can't open nor save a plan to the database ... it seems as clicking on the ok button does nothing?
[12:29] <RavingIdiot> server irc.northamerica.freenode.org
[12:29] <bob2> rsacherer: I'd try the user list
[12:30] <rsacherer> bob2, yeah, i just thought somebody might now if this was disabled at build time in ubuntu ...
[12:31] <RavingIdiot> Okay, I'm back and hopefully less lag:)
[12:35] <RavingIdiot> I have a quick question regarding updating Ubuntu. Now, in the FAQ, it mentions adding extra sources to the apt sources. If you actually add those, then do a upgrade, could that potentially break Ubuntu because none Ubuntu supported packages get installed in place of the Ubuntu ones?
[12:35] <RavingIdiot> none=non
[12:37] <rsacherer> RavingIdiot, it's a bit for advanced users, you need to know if the package you intend to install, and it's dependencies, could harm (overwrite) ubuntu packages or not ...
[12:38] <rsacherer> i have a lot of additional packages installed (Java, some debian stuff i did not found in ubuntu, namely pgadminIII)
[12:38] <RavingIdiot> Granted, I have yet to play with Ubuntu, just asking that one question. Just downloaded it, and am gonna burn it now...giving it a shot after trying a couple of other linux distros
[12:40] <rsacherer> RavingIdiot, be sure to activate the universe apt source (and multiverse if you use hoary), then there should be more or less all packages you need, just for some really specially needs you need additional package sources!
[12:40] <RavingIdiot> Anywhere I can check out what versions some of the packages are at?
[12:41] <rsacherer> apt-cache search <package> or apt-cach show <package>
[12:41] <rsacherer> +e
[12:41] <RavingIdiot> I mean before installing:)
[12:42] <rsacherer> or this gui-ish synaptics stuff i never used ..... apt-cache search and show are intended to check package BEFORE installation :-)
[12:42] <RavingIdiot> Okay, before installing Ubuntu;)
[12:42] <rsacherer> ah
[12:43] <sereNity> make sure it doesnt have cracks in it
[12:43] <rsacherer> not before installing ubuntu, but before you intend to install the package you want ;-)
[12:43] <sereNity> cuz like they tend to explode in ur cd rom
[12:43] <RavingIdiot> Well, shoot, I been installing and formatting all week, so if I have to do it again oh well:)
[12:43] <rsacherer> sereNity, cracks?
[12:43] <RavingIdiot> Alright, bbiab, hopefully in ubuntu
[12:43] <sereNity> ya, my cd exploded in my cdrom drive
[12:44] <rsacherer> sereNity, what do you have for a drive? a 52x? i read about this a while ago, some norwegian instituted played around with such stuff ;-)
[12:44] <rsacherer> but i did not know if this could be true ;-)
[12:44] <sereNity> yep 52
[12:44] <sereNity> lol
[12:45] <sereNity> it was struggling to read
[12:45] <sereNity> then suddenly a big bang

[12:45] <sereNity> result.. https://www.debianshells.de/ubuntu_explode/
[12:47] <rsacherer> Looooooooooooool
[12:48] <Telep> hmm?
[12:50] <rsacherer> with a bit of imagination, the second picture, the hole of the cd, the crack to the right, the crack to the left and the crack down looks like one of the ubuntu manikin *ggg*
[12:57] <feAR`> hello, i installed ubuntu from cd, and, there is Xfree86, i wanna xorg, btw, xchat`s version is 2.0.8 ;/ i wanna to have unstable software..
[12:57] <feAR`> can someone give me sources.list file with unstable software`s repositories ? :}
[12:58] <stvn> feAR`: get hoary
[12:58] <stvn> feAR`: replace warty with hoary in your sources list
[12:58] <feAR`> my sources.list is almost empty :)
[12:58] <feAR`> ;/
[12:59] <feAR`> it would be cool, if you could send your sources.list file on dcc...
[12:59] <stvn> feAR`: search the wiki for multiverse and universe
[12:59] <stvn> i'm off
[12:59] <feAR`> ok, thanks.
[01:01] <esher> feAR`: http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/
[01:02] <macewan> feAR: replace warty with hoary in your sources.list - this works
[01:03] <feAR`> ok.
[01:03] <feAR`> and after that, i`ll do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, right?
[01:03] <feAR`> and i`ll get the new software.
[01:03] <ogra> feAR: but be aware that unstable really means unstable in ubuntu...this is not debian ;)
[01:03] <feAR`> sorry for the lame questions :) i moved from gentoo to debian based distros..
[01:04] <feAR`> i didn`t use debian before.
[01:05] <feAR`> so i dont know :)
[01:05] <feAR`> in gentoo i used unstable software..
[01:05] <feAR`> that was working fine.
[01:05] <dud> tovid is such a brilliant piece of godlike script...
[01:06] <rsacherer> feAR`, vi /etc/apt/sources, :%s/warty/hoary/g
[01:06] <ogra> feAR: hoary is in steady flux.... synced from debian sid from time to time and stuffed with additional features and bugs.....so its quite more unstable then debian sid
[01:06] <rsacherer> feAR`, then apt-get update, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:06] <macewan> feAR: http://www.whiprush.org/2004/12/on_running_deve.html
[01:06] <ogra> feAR: so it can be that your X server breaks for one or two weeks...your gnome doesnt work or your package management system....
[01:07] <rsacherer> feAR`, ogra knows what he is talking about!! i know it by myself how frustrating a hoary 'can' be ;-)
[01:07] <ogra> feAR: if you are fine with such....upgrade....if not, stay with warty till end of feb. (preview release)
[01:07] <feAR`> Get:26 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Release [101B]
[01:07] <feAR`> Fetched 4965kB in 2m54s (28,5kB/s)
[01:07] <feAR`> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[01:07] <feAR`> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[01:07] <feAR`> Reading Package Lists... Done
[01:08] <feAR`> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:08] <feAR`> :)
[01:08] <feAR`> gheh
[01:08] <ogra> feAR: hoary-updates isnt existing ;)
[01:08] <feAR`> ok
[01:08] <rsacherer> feAR`, that's ok, hoary-updates ore not really in need right now *g*
[01:09] <feAR`> thank you
[01:09] <ogra> there is only:  main, restricted, universe and multiverse (like in warty) .... no security updates or updates :)
[01:09] <feAR`> ok, another problem.
[01:09] <rsacherer> ogra, is multiverse also included in warty?
[01:10] <ogra> sure
[01:10] <feAR`> it wants upgrade Xfree
[01:10] <feAR`> bullshit
[01:10] <feAR`> i wanna xorg.
[01:10] <rsacherer> ogra, what's the difference between multiverse and universe?
[01:10] <ogra> sure
[01:10] <feAR`> should i remove xfree by apt-get remove xfree?
[01:10] <rsacherer> feAR`, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[01:10] <ogra> feAR: if you didnt uninstall the ubuntu-desktop package, it should happen automatically
[01:10] <feAR`> reformed, ok, but before this, i need to remove Xfree right?
[01:11] <feAR`> ubuntu-desktop package, what do u mean? what does this package
[01:11] <feAR`> ?
[01:11] <feAR`> huf ;))
[01:11] <macewan> feAR: http://www.whiprush.org/2004/12/on_running_deve.html
[01:11] <ogra> rsacherer: universe = all unsupported free software, multiverse = debian/contrib + non-free
[01:12] <feAR`> macewan, thanks, i know how to use apt and dpkg ;)
[01:12] <ogra> feAR: its a empty meta package that cares for clean updates... if you uninstall some essential desktop Sw (i.e. totem for totem-xine) it gets removed
[01:12] <mati> Is localisation easy in Ubuntu?
[01:12] <feAR`> ogra, ok, thank you.
[01:13] <macewan> feAR: I was referring to the message he was trying to get across to people.
[01:13] <rsacherer> mati, apt-cache search localisation
[01:13] <feAR`> macewan, ok, thanks.
[01:13] <ogra> mati: depends.... i heard there are some probs with norwegian or swedish locales
[01:13] <feAR`> brb
[01:13] <rsacherer> acheck - Check common localisation mistakes
[01:14] <ogra> mati: what do you plan to do ?
[01:14] <rsacherer> mati, sorry, i did not read the 'easy' so .... i should read before answer :-)
[01:17] <mati> ogra: Well, I was thinking of a desktop distro for my mom and/or my grandpa. Since they are not very good at english I'd like to make Ubuntu speak Polish. Since I haven't even installed it I'm just gathering information.
[01:19] <ogra> hmm, polish should be fine (i think there is also a #ubuntu-pl channel and a polish mailing list)
[01:19] <mati> ogra: I had some looong nights localising Debian and I wanted to know if that is easier in Ubuntu
[01:20] <mati> #ubuntu-pl you say...
[01:20] <feAR`> ;)
[01:21] <feAR`> ok, i did apt-get update, now i`ll do apt-get instlal xserver-xorg, and later i`ll remove Xfree86, and then i`ll do apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:21] <feAR`> ok?
[01:21] <mati> ogra: no #ubuntu-pl at freenode :(
[01:22] <ogra> feAR: dist-upgrade should care for you....if not, you can get xserver-xorg later...
[01:22] <ogra> mati: i know there once was one... :(
[01:22] <feAR`> no, ogra, dist-upgrade suggessts Xfree update x]
[01:23] <ogra> feAR: the xserver also has meta packages...which one will get upgraded ?
[01:23] <feAR`> ok, i`ll do now dist-upgrade.
[01:24] <brianb04> Ubuntu
[01:26] <ogra> mati: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-December/016989.html
[01:27] <brianb04> Everything is working...very well...pleasent surprise.
[01:29] <brianb04> Now, to get the Nvidia driver in.
[01:30] <ogra> brianb04: only two commands and a reboot away ;) http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:31] <brianb04> Yep, found that. Now to tweak that...Ummm, now the big thing, how can I change the refresh on 1280x1024? The card and monitor support higher than 60, and 60 kills my eyes
[01:32] <ogra> brianb04: first make sure the driver runs fine....then you can adjust it with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[01:33] <ogra> brianb04: if you still need more options: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86
[01:33] <brianb04> Well, first, I should fix the monitor settings in XConfig...
[01:33] <ogra> brianb04: make sure HSync and VSync values match your monitor....
[01:33] <ogra> brianb04: and _never_ edit this file by hand
[01:33] <brianb04> Oh? Why not?
[01:34] <brianb04> Just out of curiosity. Potential of breaking it?
[01:34] <ogra> brianb04: because there is acertain md5sum mmechanism thast prevents tools from changing the file after you touchged it
[01:34] <brianb04> Ah, I get it.
[01:34] <ogra> make a backup before you edit it .....
[01:35] <ogra> if you break something....just copy it back
[01:36] <brianb04> Okay, here we go, see if everything runs right:)
[01:41] <kent> How come k3b demands kcontrol in Hoary now? kcontrol puts an entry in the top menu, so its very ugly :(
[01:42] <brianb04> Okay, the driver took, now what was the line to reconfig the X server?
[01:46] <nyxtreme> does anyone know where to download the trial for cedega?
[01:50] <tuxJr_14> hi
[01:53] <ogra> brianb04: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[01:53] <bob2> nyxtreme: #cedega
[01:53] <lonewolff> can  anyone tell me how to stop ubuntu from changing my resolv.conf file back after every change i make?
[01:54] <bob2> lonewolff: you don't want to use DHCP?
[01:54] <lonewolff> no, and im not using dhcp
[01:54] <bob2> did you install resolvconf?
[01:54] <lonewolff> no i didnt
[01:54] <tck> lo
[01:55] <bob2> 'grep dhcp /etc/network/interfaces' prints nothing?
[01:55] <bob2> you're really sure resolvconf isn't installed?
[01:55] <tck> i know someone who needed apps that were not in the Ubuntu repos, so he added the usual Debian repos - so far so good.
[01:56] <tck> he did a complete apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and because of the additional repos, there's a load of stuff for upgrade - three hours of downloading @ 52Kbps, to be precise.
[01:56] <lonewolff> indeed it prints nothing and resolvconf is not installed
[01:56] <tck> My question is this - when it's all finished, will he still be running Ubuntu, or will it simply be Debian unstable?
[01:57] <tck> (i know u shouldnt mix ubuntu and debian repos, but still)
[01:57] <bob2> tck: it will be a bastard mix of both, and not supportable by debian nor ubuntu
[01:57] <tck> thank you,
[01:57] <tck> what would u call the base system ?
[01:57] <tck> weird one eh
[01:57] <bob2> which base system?
[01:57] <the--dud> GNU/Linux
[01:57] <the--dud> as usual...
[01:57] <lonewolff> bob2: i use a static public routable ip and my own dns servers, i dont use dhcp (but there is a dhcp server running on the router) and i just want to make ubuntu leave the changes i make
[01:58] <tck> or the underlying core of the distribution, debian or ubuntu
[01:58] <bob2> lonewolff: I can't htink of anything else that would modify it.  try asking on the list.
[01:58] <bob2> tck: gnu, I guess
[01:58] <tck> :)
[01:58] <bob2> but it's not something that you'd often bother naming
[01:59] <the--dud> i think its nice to include the GNU part when addressing a linux distro
[02:00] <the--dud> pay a bit of homage to the hardworking hackers at fsf
[02:00] <zaeem> hi guys
[02:00] <zaeem> hi bob2
[02:01] <zaeem> can someone help me with using cvs..
[02:01] <zaeem> i cant find out the exact syntax...
[02:01] <zaeem> i need to checkout a few files from gnome cvs..
[02:02] <zAo^> morning
[02:02] <zaeem> morning zAo^
[02:03] <zaeem> zAo^: can you help me with using cvs?
[02:03] <zAo^> zaeem, dont thinks so, but you can try me :)
[02:04] <the--dud> i find it easier to use a GUI application for cvs
[02:04] <zaeem> the--dud: can you name that app?
[02:04] <the--dud> just a lot of hassle typing all the stuff out
[02:05] <zombics> how can i make my windows partition readable with my normal user?
[02:05] <the--dud> civiric or something heh
[02:05] <zAo^> zombics, edit /etc/fstab as root. In the parameter collum, use umask=007,gid=1000
[02:06] <zAo^> remount afterwards
[02:06] <kezz> zombics, you need to add a flag to its line in /etc/fstab
[02:06] <the--dud> gcvs and lincvs seems to be two zaeem
[02:06] <kezz> yeah what zAo^ said
[02:06] <zaeem> thnx the--dud
[02:07] <zombics> zAo^, thx man :)
[02:07] <zAo^> np
[02:10] <zAo^> does anyone know the win32 tool C-Xbox ?
[02:11] <zAo^> hmm
[02:11] <zAo^> need that one very hard :)
[02:11] <tuxJr_14> can anyone show me the linux kernel's version.h file? I messed up the source and fuse is giving me errors
[02:12] <kezz> tuxJr_14, should be able to get it on kernel.org
[02:12] <zAo^> this is mine:
[02:12] <zAo^> zao@amd:~$ more /usr/include/linux/version.h
[02:12] <zAo^> #define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.0-test7"
[02:12] <zAo^> #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 132608
[02:12] <zAo^> #define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))
[02:12] <tuxJr_14> zAo^: thanks
[02:13] <tuxJr_14> kezz: they dont have the untarred ones up there
[02:14] <tuxJr_14> errr..... LINUX_VERSION_CODE? cant modify that one to suit mine :-P
[02:14] <kezz> what did you modify?
[02:15] <tuxJr_14> kezz: actually, i used an unofficial patch of something and then it gave errors about the version so i deleted version.h
[02:18] <rsacherer> the z-index .... if i have a <a> tag with a zindex behind other stuff, is the link still clickable?
[02:20] <zAo^> How can I transfer files form my linux box to my XBOX? LFTP does not seem to work
[02:21] <Qerub> How can I disable the device icons on the desktop_
[02:23] <kent> Qerub, in gconf-editor.  Its in the menu somewhere (though the name in the menu is diffrent, i think its called configuration editor or something like that in english)
[02:23] <kent> Qerub, but you will have to find the option to enable in that register, its kind of hard.
[02:23] <srid> is kde available in warty? .. or at least in the repository?
[02:23] <zombics> ther is a pack of stuff i need to download to be able to compile on ubuntu?
[02:25] <kezz> zombics, sudo apt-get build-essential
[02:25] <zombics> kezz, thx :)
[02:25] <kezz> srid, kde is in the universe repositories
[02:25] <srid> hmmm
[02:26] <kezz> you'll need to uncomment them in /etc/apt/sources.list as root
[02:26] <zombics> kezz, you ment sudo apt-get install uild-essential right?
[02:26] <kezz> build-essential
[02:26] <kezz> yeah sorry
[02:26] <kezz> my bad
[02:26] <zombics> np...
[02:26] <zombics> thx :)
[02:27] <Qerub> kent: Yeah, I know it's gconf-edtitor... But I can't find it.
[02:27] <kent> Qerub, wait a sec and il check
[02:27] <Qerub> kent: Thanks!
[02:28] <the--dud> i must say, linux is quite the brilliant dvd creation kit
[02:28] <the--dud> once you get your codecs and formats and helper apps sorted that is
[02:28] <the--dud> it all comes down to proper memory and disk management i suppose
[02:28] <zombics> everytimg in linux is like  that :> after its working good you cant go back
[02:29] <the--dud> yeah, i usually say; when everything is working, its the best thing in the world. but when something goes wrong, you're in hell
[02:29] <the--dud> if everything works, any half-brained newbie can use linux
[02:30] <the--dud> its when something goes wrong the geek has to step in
[02:30] <the--dud> in my views, thats the achilles heel of linux at the moment
[02:30] <the--dud> the last thing that prevents it from conquering the desktop market you know?
[02:30] <nevyn> the--dud: how is this different from windows?
[02:31] <Qerub> kent: apps/nautilus/desktop
[02:31] <Qerub> kent: it seems
[02:31] <kent> Qerub, its Apps->nautilus->desktop   in gconf.
[02:31] <kent> Quest-Master, yes :)
[02:31] <the--dud> nevyn, windows tries to hide all the things that goes wrong
[02:31] <nevyn> the--dud: which leads to it's own problems.
[02:31] <Qerub> kent: cheers
[02:32] <the--dud> yeah
[02:32] <nevyn> I'd rather hear about it if theres a problem than have it hidden from me and realise that the data I thought I had no longer exists.
[02:32] <the--dud> but even so, one rarely has to pull out the command line to fix something in windows
[02:32] <the--dud> dont get me wrong here, ive used linux for close to 4 years
[02:32] <the--dud> linux >> *
[02:33] <the--dud> but still, for linux to take over the market... it needs to have a bit more friendly way of tackling the unexpected
[02:33] <KingNato> Is there an ant package in ubuntu? All I can find is libant package, but they don't provide /usr/bin/ant
[02:33] <the--dud> its getting closer with each new distrobution tho, isnt it
[02:34] <zombics> when i am trying to compile a theme for kde i geet this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[02:35] <ycco> anyone here know what "Group 0" means in the DRI section of XF86Config file?
[02:35] <bob2> zombics: install build-essential and xlibs-dev
[02:36] <nevyn> KingNato: it might be in universe?
[02:36] <KingNato> nevyn: I have both universe and multiverse in my sources.list
[02:37] <zombics> bob2, ok :) thx
[02:37] <ycco> bob2 finally get ubuntu installed on my Dell inspiron 7500 (it was the CDrom that was having problems)  Now battling with X.  crimsun and nomasteryoda tried to help me last night to no avail.
[02:37] <ycco> I get the ubuntu drum sound when gdm starts  but I simply have a black screen
[02:37] <nevyn> KingNato: I have an "ant" package here on debian sid.
[02:38] <the--dud> ycco, did you try installing xorg, and using xorgconf?
[02:38] <bob2> the--dud: how would that help?
[02:38] <bob2> ycco: can you switch to a terminal?
[02:38] <the--dud> at least with xorgconf you can fine tune the configuration down to the last pixel
[02:39] <zombics> bob2, i nee to install something with QT? coz it told me "onfigure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"
[02:39] <KingNato> Hmm, lots of Java stuff seems to exist only as source in ubuntu
[02:39] <bob2> zombics: libt3-mt-dev
[02:40] <ycco> bob2 yah, I'm in terminal now.
[02:40] <zombics> bob2, cant find it
[02:40] <zombics> E: Couldn't find package libt3-mt-dev
[02:40] <ycco> the--dud that's for hoary I think I told you that last night :)
[02:41] <bob2> zombics: libqt3-mt-dev
[02:41] <ycco> bob2 let me spit XF86Config and XFree86.0.log to pastebin
[02:41] <bob2> ycco: anything interesting in /var/log/XFree86.0.log?
[02:41] <zombics> bob2, thx :)
[02:41] <bob2> ycco: it'd be better to send that to the user list
[02:42] <ycco> bob2 I'm sorta a fish out of water in console.  I can't seem to get anything done without X.
[02:43] <zombics> now this is the error: "checking for KDE... configure: error:in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.So, check this please and use another prefix!"
[02:44] <bob2> kdelibs4-dev
[02:45] <bob2> this theme had better show the face of god for the amount of pain you're going through to get it
[02:45] <zombics> lol yea.....
[02:46] <ycco> bob2 heh
[02:46] <newsbunny> Hi - I have an Intel 82801BA chipset onboard sound card which seems to be properly detected, but all sound apps seem to think there are no mixer devices present. I followed most of the suggestions I could find to no avail. Help is most welcome... :)
[02:46] <ycco> I remember an old "hand of God" theme
[02:46] <ycco> *chuckle*
[02:47] <ycco> newsbunny laptop?
[02:47] <newsbunny> ycco - Intel Desktop board
[02:47] <newsbunny> not sure which model
[02:47] <ycco> newsbunny ahh...
[02:47] <ycco> was thinking there might be something going on in the bios.
[02:48] <ycco> newsbunny I'd search google.com/linux  and look for: Intel 82801BA chipset
[02:48] <newsbunny> If it's disabled in the BIOS would lspci still list it?
[02:48] <ycco> newsbunny and see what you turn up.
[02:48] <ycco> newsbunny not really sure... do the google search ...   /me checks too
[02:48] <newsbunny> thanks
[02:49] <zombics> newsbunny, no. if its disabled in bios its like you took the sound card out .
[02:50] <zombics> i hate this@#_$
[02:50] <zombics> /usr/share/qt3/bin/uic -L /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer -nounload -o configdialog.h ./configdialog.ui
[02:50] <zombics> uic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (3.3 vs. 3.2.3)
[02:50] <zombics> :<
[02:51] <ycco> newsbunny I'm in console (my X isn't working :(   So It's really hard to browse the web in lynx or links
[02:51] <ycco> newsbunny good luck to you.
[02:51] <zombics> i like it :)
[02:51] <ycco> wish I knew how to get high res @ the console.
[02:52] <zombics> what the problem with the X?
[02:52] <ycco> bob2 anything I can apt-get install or dpkg-reconfigure to easily change my console res?
[02:52] <ycco> zombics sec...
[02:52] <ycco> http://pastebin.com/223966
[02:52] <ycco> http://pastebin.com/223965
[02:53] <ycco> one is my XF86Config file  and the other is my XFree86.0.log file
[02:54] <ycco> I type /etc/init.d/gdm start   and "X" starts... and I get a black screen.  I _DO_ hear the ubuntu drum sounds though you normally get when gdm starts.  which is odd.
[02:54] <ycco> This laptop worked fine @1400x1050 under Fedora Core 1.0
[02:55] <ycco> I even have the old working XF86Config file from FC1:  http://occy.net/tmp/
[02:55] <kent> ycco, perhaps you have choosen an resolution that the display cant view.  Try to set the resolution to a lower one?
[02:56] <ycco> kent heh, read above...
[02:57] <kent> ycco, about it working in fedora?  perhaps its not realy 100% the same settings now?  im no expert, but if the settings or not the same as on fedora, then i guess it might fail..
[02:57] <ycco> I have tried 640 @ 8bpp and still does the same thing.
[02:57] <kent> ycco, ok..  sad :(
[02:58] <zombics> try to install the ati new driver...
[02:58] <zombics> fglrx if i remember right
[02:58] <ycco> zombics new ati driver?
[02:58] <zombics> the ones that give you the 3D acc...
[03:00] <zombics> hmmm dont remember dint use ATI from the time i used mdk 9 :O
[03:01] <ycco> :/
[03:01] <ycco> simply worked out of the box with Fedora Core 1.0.  I wouldn't see why there would be a problem.
[03:02] <ycco> I wonder what they are doing to get it to work where it won't on Ubuntu.
[03:03] <ray__> I've just managed to intall Ubuntu, how do i get it to start up in terminal mode?
[03:04] <zombics> coz here the auto config dint work 4 me 2 :P
[03:04] <ogra> ycco: looks like a typical hoary bug
[03:04] <ycco> ogra Cool, but I'm on warty.
[03:04] <ycco> heh
[03:04] <ogra> ycco: with all the standard packages ?
[03:04] <ycco> yah
[03:04] <ogra> ycco: no extra repos ?
[03:04] <ycco> haven't done anything... haven't been able to do anthying.... X no workie :)
[03:05] <zombics> when i try to compile a theme i get this error:
[03:05] <Quest-Master> ycco: You probably had a bad CD
[03:05] <ycco> ogra well, if Universe is considered "extra" ok...
[03:05] <zombics> /usr/share/qt3/bin/uic -L /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer -nounload -o about.h ./about.uiuic: File generated with too recent version of Qt Designer (3.3 vs. 3.2.3)
[03:05] <ogra> ycco: nope...univerfse is ok
[03:05] <ycco> Quest-Master heh, that's silly
[03:05] <Quest-Master> ycco: It happened to me once. ;)
[03:05] <ycco> too many people seem to say "Bad CD" to cover everything.
[03:05] <ycco>  can't get mail working... "Oh, you probably had a bad CD"
[03:05] <ogra> ycco: but some ppl mix hoary and warty (which is bad) or warty and debian sid (which is really evil)
[03:05] <ycco> hehe
[03:06] <Quest-Master> Well I had the exact same case. X wasn't apparently installed, and it turned out to a bad CD. :\
[03:06] <Quest-Master> I haven't said that about any other case though. :P
[03:06] <ycco> ogra hey... know how I can get console in high res?  (so it'll help with browsing in console)
[03:06] <Quest-Master> Was X ever working in the past?
[03:06] <kezz> zombics, i believe the kde in warty is only 3.2.3 so it only provides 3.2.3 libs
[03:06] <ycco> Quest-Master yes, on this laptop under RH 8/9 FC1 for years @ 1400x1050
[03:07] <ogra> ycco: on boot hit escape.....then edit the kernel boot line.... vga=791 gives you 1024x768@256
[03:07] <zombics> kezz, so what i need to do? :O
[03:07] <ycco> I have tried 640 @ 8bpp and no luck
[03:07] <kezz> zombics, you need kde 3.3
[03:07] <Quest-Master> ogra: Is there any way possible to resize an ext3 partition? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10112
[03:07] <kezz> whats hoary's version?
[03:07] <afonit> does anyone know of a program that can open a multiple page tiff file on linux/ubuntu?  I don't know which one would do it on windows but on the mac their 'preview' app does it
[03:07] <ycco> ogra ahhh ok.
[03:07] <ogra> kezz: the release date
[03:07] <ogra> kezz: 05.04
[03:07] <ycco> let me try that.  I'll be back in a bit guys.
[03:08] <zombics> kezz, ubuntu sources dont have it yet right?
[03:08] <kezz> ogra, no i meant what version of kde does it currently have
[03:08] <kezz> zombics, no i don't think so you could try editing the files with qt-designer to see if its just a version stamp issue
[03:08] <ogra> kezz: oh, no idea, i dont use kde ;)
[03:08] <kezz> ogra me neither
[03:08] <ogra> kezz: but i think i heard roumors about 3.3
[03:09] <kezz> zombics,  in that case you could upgrade to hoary if you really need this app to work, but to be honest i'd look for an alternative
[03:10] <ogra> Quest-Master: sorry i dont know how to get this work....but you really should consider a LVM installation for your next linx ;)
[03:10] <ogra> linux even
[03:10] <lonewolff> i have fixed the dns issue, but does anyone know why i cannot install gnome themes?
[03:11] <kezz> Quest-Master, get the partition magic demo if you have windows on the box
[03:13] <feAR`> hey,there was a bootsplash in live cd, then i installed ubuntu ;( it`s gone.
[03:13] <feAR`> ;]
[03:14] <feAR`> do i need patch kernel and so on? or just to get theme and run it ?
[03:14] <feAR`> ;]
[03:14] <ogra> feAR: live and install are a bit different ... this will change in hoary
[03:14] <feAR`> ogra, in hoary, i`ll have bootsplash?
[03:14] <feAR`> x]
[03:15] <ycco> ogra heh, where do I put the vga=791 again?  it didn't take.
[03:15] <ogra> feAR: nope, something better...bootsplash is crap
[03:15] <ycco> i did the e  on the kernel line  and put it in there at the end.
[03:15] <ogra> ycco: thats my kernel line: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash pci=noacpi vga=791
[03:16] <ycco> ogra maybe It didn't save or something.  Let me try again :)
[03:16] <ycco> bbiab
[03:16] <Ward> In which file can i put my wireless settings? I set them in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts, but it doesnt change the settings after a reboot pcmcia stop/start
[03:17] <ogra> Ward: /etc/network/interfaces or use the gui tool in your computer->system tools  menu
[03:17] <Ward> ogra: that 's for the IP settings, not the wireless ESSID/key/...
[03:18] <kurtw> j
[03:18] <ogra> Ward: nope...
[03:18] <Ward> oh
[03:18] <Ward> i'll try the GUI then :p
[03:19] <ogra> Ward: here is a example with WLAN settings: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/ndiswrapper/
[03:19] <Ward> ok
[03:19] <Ward> tnx
[03:20] <feAR`> what is something better than bootsplash
[03:20] <feAR`> ?
[03:20] <ogra> feAR: usplash
[03:20] <feAR`> oh
[03:20] <ogra> feAR: the ubuntu bootsplash.....
[03:20] <feAR`> first time i heard about it ..
[03:20] <feAR`> ograohhh
[03:20] <ogra> feAR: search on the wiki
[03:20] <feAR`> okay then
[03:20] <feAR`> it`s what i want ;)
[03:20] <feAR`> thank you very much ogra.
[03:20] <ogra> :)
[03:21] <Ward> are there lm-sensors binaries/sources in ubuntu or should I compile it by myself?
[03:22] <ogra> Ward: its there....
[03:22] <ogra> Ward: in universe :)
[03:23] <krix> hey there.
[03:23] <krix> i'm using hoary and i got a small probelm with xorg :)
[03:23] <ogra> heh
[03:23] <krix> I uncommented the Load "glx" line in xorg config
[03:24] <krix> but in Xorg.log it says that:
[03:24] <Ward> ogra: oh ok
[03:24] <krix> Could not open module 'glx'
[03:24] <krix> Failed to load module "glx" (module doesn't exist, 0)
[03:24] <daniels> you're using the nvidia binary driver, aren't you?
[03:24] <krix> yep
[03:25] <ycco> w00p, figured it out ogra
[03:25] <daniels> known broken, watching the fixed version build now
[03:25] <daniels> will be in later today
[03:25] <ycco> how do I edit it so it's permanent?
[03:25] <krix> oh.
[03:25] <krix> any workaround for this ?
[03:25] <ycco> I did a locate grub.conf and couldn't find one.
[03:25] <ycco> also... I seem to have X in 640@8bpp now. heh
[03:25] <ogra> daniels: how about my little imac bug....if i understood you correctly its not fixed yet ?
[03:25] <krix> another question
[03:26] <krix> how can i prevent some modules to load at startup automatically ?
[03:26] <daniels> ogra: not yet; it's, um, difficult to solve
[03:26] <daniels> but i know how to solve it
[03:26] <krix> i want to "disable" the snd_81xm module (modem sound driver)
[03:26] <ogra> daniels: keep in mid that this is a special edition...
[03:26] <krix> any modules.skip file or something else ?
[03:26] <daniels> ogra: yeah, it's typical apple breakage though
[03:26] <ogra> daniels: afaik the first imac that could do 1024x768.....
[03:26] <kezz> krix, maybe comment them out in modules.conf
[03:27] <krix> hmm
[03:27] <daniels> it's so broken it hurts
[03:27] <ogra> ycco: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:27] <kezz> krix, ive only been using ubuntu for 3 days so im not sure how it handles them
[03:27] <krix> kezz: comment out isn't working
[03:27] <ycco> ogra ahhh ok.
[03:27] <krix> because this module isn't in modules.conf:)
[03:27] <krix> any other idea ?
[03:27] <zombics> when i try to compile i get this error :<
[03:27] <zombics> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[03:28] <ycco> bawhahahahah
[03:28] <ycco> X works
[03:28] <ycco> wtf?????
[03:28] <ycco> I got X working at 1400x1050 @ 24bpp
[03:28] <ogra> kezz: ubuntu doesnt use modules.conf
[03:28] <ycco> all because I put in vga=791????
[03:28] <ogra> hmm
[03:28] <kezz> heh see thats what i was worried about
[03:28] <ycco> that sounds freakin' odd
[03:29] <ycco> but hey... what do I care?!?
[03:29] <ycco> :)
[03:29] <nevyn> ycco: not really
[03:29] <ogra> kezz: hotplug/udev and /etc/modules are the relevant places to look for module stuff ;)
[03:29] <zombics> no1? :/
[03:29] <ycco> w00p, /me does a dance and drinks a little water.
[03:29] <nevyn> ycco: lots of chipsets have dodgy mode-switching functionality.
[03:29] <ycco> nevyn hmmm
[03:29] <ycco> well, it works, so.... I'm a happy camper
[03:29] <ycco> whew.
[03:29] <ogra> :
[03:29] <ogra> )
[03:32] <ycco> bbiab... headed to X
[03:35] <Ward> hmm, and where can I find the mkdev.sh for lm-sensors ? :)
[03:36] <Cloudchaser> hmm this is very odd..i installed acroreader-plugin and restarted gnome with ctrl-alt-backspace now i have a blank black desktop
[03:36] <Cloudchaser> the top and bottom bars are there
[03:37] <ogra> seems nautilus got stuck......did you log out proper before hitting the keys ?
[03:37] <Cloudchaser> no
[03:37] <jmob> Have I broken my packages somehow? http://rafb.net/paste/results/icRwSD65.html
[03:37] <Cloudchaser> i'll try that ogra
[03:37] <Cloudchaser> brb
[03:37] <jmob> Seems all of the dev related X packages depend on 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu25 but I have 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu25.1 stuff installed.
[03:38] <ogra> jmob: is your universe enabled ?
[03:38] <daniels> jmob: how did ou manage to get 6ubuntu25.1?  where did you intall it from?
[03:38] <daniels> oh right, warty-security
[03:38] <jmob> ogra: yes
[03:38] <daniels> sorry, never mind me
[03:39] <ogra> daniels: wget does this too....if there is already ubuntu25 it assingns a .1 to the second one if you download manually....
[03:40] <ogra> hmm, but only at the end indeed ...so this would be .deb.1
[03:40] <daniels> ogra: but yeah, there was a 25.1
[03:40] <daniels> it was done for the xpm security issue
[03:40] <ogra> yup....i saw your msg....(was just to lazy to delete what i wrote before) :P
[03:41] <ycco> in X
[03:41] <ycco> whew.
[03:41] <ycco> :)
[03:41] <ycco> my touchpad doesn't click though....   hmmm
[03:42] <Cloudchaser> had to restart
[03:43] <Cloudchaser> logging out and back in didn't work...
[03:43] <jmob> I'm running amd64, I put debian and Marillat's amd64 repos in my sources.list so I could install mplayer, but I -tried- to set up my apt_preferences so that only packages that were really needed would get dragged in from debian's amd64, so that might've caused the problem, but I'm getting the feeling now that it might not've been the problem and all the dev packages are just broken...
[03:43] <Cloudchaser> now to see if the plugin works
[03:43] <ogra> Cloudchaser: next time give your gnome session a chance to save itself before killing it with a gun ;)
[03:44] <Cloudchaser> so ctrl-alt-backspace isn't a good thing?
[03:44] <ogra> Cloudchaser: not if there are open apps .....
[03:44] <Cloudchaser> gotcha
[03:44] <ogra> jmob: you shouldnt mix debian with ubuntu.....
[03:44] <Cloudchaser> and tada! the plugin worked ;)
[03:45] <jmob> ogra: yes, I'm aware
[03:45] <ogra> jmob: for the worst case you could compile the packages from the debian source with ubuntu dependencys
[03:45] <jmob> ogra: however, there were serveral packages that weren't present anywhere on ubuntu, afaict
[03:46] <ogra> jmob: mplayer for example is in multiverse....what else did you miss ?
[03:47] <jmob> ogra: I'm probably just mistaken, I don't think I had multiverse in my sources.list at the time.
[03:48] <ogra> jmob: ubuntu is a 100% sync from sid....even if some packages dont build, you will still have 99% of them available ;)
[03:48] <ogra> so no need for debian sources ;)
[03:49] <jmob> ogra: Yes, it seems like mixing the two will eventually cause very bad dependancy problems.
[03:49] <ogra> yup
[03:49] <ogra> especially since the upstream freeze for hoary is today....
[03:50] <ogra> so they will start to drift apart from now on
[03:50] <jmob> So... should I report a bug, or assume I fubar'ed things?
[03:50] <ogra> jmob: a bug ? about what ?
[03:50] <jmob> ogra: I can't install any dev packages, my orginal question :)
[03:51] <jmob> ogra: any dev packages related to X at least
[03:51] <ogra> jmob: its clearly not supported to mix the distros....
[03:51] <jmob> ogra: yes, but I don't think that caused the problem
[03:51] <ogra> jmob: so what app do you want to blame for that ?
[03:51] <jmob> ogra: eh?
[03:52] <ogra> jmob: if you got a bug you need to assign it to an app....so you want to blame apt/synaptic for mixing up your repo lists ?
[03:52] <superted> isn't it supposed to be possible to choose both POP or POP3 server at the incoming mail options in evo 2.0.2 ?
[03:53] <ogra> superted: yup, it is....i use it here ....
[03:53] <dabaslon> +-both POP or POP3 :)
[03:53] <krix> hm a question :) if i want to create a l10n package for openoffice then in small story what i need to do ?
[03:53] <krix> i want to contribure openoffice-l10n-hu package for my desktop and other ppls :)
[03:53] <superted> ogra: i thought so too. but i only have "POP" in my list among others
[03:53] <ogra> krix: start with buying a HUGE machine ;)
[03:53] <krix> (i already builded many debian packages)
[03:54] <superted> and it doesn't seem to work with my mail server
[03:54] <krix> ogra: that isn't a problem ;)
[03:54] <krix> i got a Dual Xeon with 4gig ram :)
[03:54] <jmob> ogra: Not exactly! I think all the dev packages need to be updated to reflect the version change from 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu25 to 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu25.1
[03:54] <krix> so btw. i asking the "way of build an ubuntu package"
[03:54] <krix> but not how we build debian packages with dpkg.
[03:54] <krix> :)
[03:54] <ogra> superted: here is only pop too...so it obviously is the pop3 proto
[03:55] <Ward> can you install debian packages without a problem in ubuntu? I want the development version of fluxbox, but ubuntu only has the stable ones
[03:55] <ogra> krix: as you build debian packages...the tools are the same ;)
[03:56] <krix> ogra: or where can i send some email or anything to somebody make an officially openoffice-l10n-hu package ?
[03:56] <ogra> krix: your distribution version should contain something like -ubuntu1
[03:56] <krix> i mean some "whislist" or some package request
[03:56] <krix> ubuntu1
[03:56] <ogra> krix: the ubuntu-develmailing list would be fine i think
[03:56] <krix> some docs about releasnumbering policy ?
[03:57] <ogra> krix: not to my knowledge, but if something official exists it will be in the wiki
[03:57] <krix> okay. i will see
[03:57] <krix> thx.
[03:58] <randabis> yum fried potatoes
[03:58] <ogra> krix: and see if you can get a quad xeon with 8gig ....its twice as fast *g*
[03:58] <krix> lol
[03:58] <krix> that is too much price for me :P :)
[03:59] <randabis> I'd go for a double quad opteron :p
[03:59] <ogra> heh
[03:59] <superted> ogra: proto?
[03:59] <ogra> col
[03:59] <ogra> superted: protocol
[04:14] <randabis> quitters never win!
[04:14] <randabis> :p
[04:25] <kurtw> Anyone know of a resource for PHP5?
[04:38] <SmokingFire> Do you know a good cross platform (gnome and windows) widget set for python?
[04:38] <SmokingFire> I want to learn python and do some personal tools with it but I need to use them under windows and ubuntu
[04:39] <dud> wxwidgets?
[04:39] <ZzeCoOl> under windows
[04:39] <ZzeCoOl> ?
[04:39] <SmokingFire> yeah I know of wxwidgets. I just wanted to know what other people think
[04:40] <mjr> wxwidgets might provide better windows integration, but I'll toss straight gtk into the fray anyway
[04:40] <SmokingFire> there is also pyGTK but it doesn't have a native look and feel on windows I think.
[04:40] <mjr> gtk works on windows too, and I've coded it with python, and it wasn't bad
[04:40] <dud> qt has python bindings doesnt it?
[04:41] <SmokingFire> I'm using winGAIM right now, although it works great, the look and feel is not win32
[04:41] <jul-le> has anybody got the same error on amule? ERROR: zlib MUST be used, not only advertized.
[04:41] <mjr> SmokingFire, well, there's gtk-wimp, which uses the windows theme apis for its look
[04:41] <mjr> http://gtk-wimp.sourceforge.net/
[04:41] <mjr> I think it's even integrated on new gtk versions
[04:41] <SmokingFire> dud: I hear/read great stuff about QT but two things. I want to do gnome applications and I hear the free (GPL) version for windows is outdated.
[04:41] <mjr> (though that might've been only development versions)
[04:42] <mjr> actually, there is no free Qt for Windows
[04:42] <mjr> (IIRC)
[04:42] <dud> the libraries for win is free arent they?
[04:42] <mjr> anyway, if you want to do a gnome app, then I do recommend straight GTK
[04:42] <mjr> (with gnome stuff added in for optional usage)
[04:43] <SmokingFire> mjr: I thought there was a free (for GPL apps) version of QT but really outdated
[04:43] <SmokingFire> mjr: however  GTK-Wimp looks nice and I will have a closer look at it.
[04:43] <mjr> dud, not free as in libre, IIRC
[04:44] <mjr> might've been free beer
[04:44] <dud> i believe its something similar to the mysql lisense
[04:44] <dud> so ive heard...
[04:44] <dud> mmm, beer
[04:44] <dud> i seriously need to drunk loads of beer this weekend
[04:44] <mjr> ah, yes, there it was on the gtk-wimp front page: "GTK-Wimp integrated into GTK+ (Tuesday, 31 August 2004)" :)
[04:45] <dud> had this strong urge ever since new years eve
[04:45] <dud> ive been sticking to whisky lately when i go out, but i crave beer now...
[04:45] <dud> good old plain simple beer
[04:45] <apes> anyone know how to disable the volume icon that appears on the Gnome desktop when you mount something?
[04:46] <apes> if i mount my ntfs partition, i get a disk icon on the desktop
[04:46] <ZzeCoOl> it happens with the cd roms or dvd roms too
[04:46] <SmokingFire> apes: you can create a shortcut
[04:46] <apes> yeah, there is a way to disable it
[04:46] <apes> i have dopne it before
[04:46] <ZzeCoOl> i dont know :(
[04:47] <mjr> gconf: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[04:47] <apes> how about how to disable the security warnings when trying to play like and AVI file and Gnome says "this in an asf file, please check for security before opening this file"
[04:47] <mjr> use gconf-editor to toggle that
[04:48] <apes> mjr, yeah i cant find the option in gconf
[04:48] <El_Che> is a sound problem known when scrolling in gnome2.8 or in firefox?
[04:48] <El_Che> mp3 keep playing, but some noice is added
[04:48] <mjr> hmh, well, that's what it should be
[04:48] <apes> mjr, got it
[04:48] <superted> does anyone know when evo 2.0.3 will hit warty?
[04:48] <apes> apps -> nautilus -> desktop -> volumes_visible
[04:48] <apes> :-)
[04:49] <mjr> apes, yes, that's what I said ;)
[04:49] <ZzeCoOl> superted: thunderbird rocks betters
[04:49] <stvn> superted: never, most likely
[04:50] <apes> ZzeCoOl, thunderbird does not have calendar
[04:50] <stvn> superted: warty won't get any updates other than security related ones
[04:51] <apes> ZzeCoOl, i think the new mozilla proect will address that issue
[04:51] <ZzeCoOl> i see
[04:51] <apes> anyone know how to disable that dumb Gnome file open security warning?
[04:51] <ZzeCoOl> i dont use calendar so... thunderbird  is the best for me ....
[04:51] <andi__> how can i setup grub, to boot automatically windows not linux?
[04:52] <dud> andi_, traitor hehe :P
[04:52] <superted> stvn: until, march, may?
[04:52] <apes> andi_
[04:52] <apes> andi_
[04:52] <apes> andi__, default
[04:53] <apes> andi__, who needs winodws anymore??!?!
[04:53] <stvn> superted: i got evo 2.1.2 here, in hoary
[04:53] <superted> stvn: yeah i know. but hoary got to unstable for me :\
[04:53] <stvn> superted: than you've to wait untill march
[04:53] <stvn> superted: or at least untill the first RCs
[04:54] <superted> stvn: ok
[04:54] <dud> sunbird could be a nice calendar application
[04:54] <dud> hopefully
[04:54] <apes> yeah sunburd, thats it
[04:54] <dud> but its in such an early stage...
[04:54] <apes> well, with mozilla history im happy
[04:54] <dud> yeah
[04:55] <gaea> Hi . . . I'm wondering if anyone else made the mistake of installing a firefox backport, followed by the inability to run firefox unless su'd, due to a JacaPluginFactory5 error.  I changed my apt sources from warty to hoary and removed the backport sources entry, then removed and reinstalled firefox, but no change. :-(
[04:56] <gaea> The error I'm getting is:
[04:56] <gaea> $ firefox
[04:56] <gaea>  reg - nsGMNotifierProgressListener
[04:56] <gaea> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?
[04:56] <gaea> System error?:: No such file or directory
[04:59] <apes> #gnome
[05:00] <trukulo> anyone with problems in pbuilder with sid ?
[05:04] <ycco> hmmm
[05:04] <ycco> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/5/2004/10/3/240707
[05:05] <pybe> finally got the net install going on my laptop without any pxe stuff! Ubuntu here we come!
[05:05] <krix> hmhm
[05:06] <krix> when hoary xorg fixed packages will be available ?
[05:06] <ycco> can't seem to get the touch pad working.
[05:06] <krix> (glx module fix)
[05:06] <krix> anybody knows ?
[05:06] <pybe> ycco: which pad is it?
[05:06] <ycco> pybe: it is built into my Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop
[05:06] <stvn> krix: what vidcard?
[05:07] <stvn> krix: i'm not aware of any xorg glx problems here
[05:07] <pybe> ycco: should be synaptic i think
[05:07] <pybe> ycco: does it not work at all?
[05:07] <ycco> pybe: here is what I added to my menu.lst
[05:07] <pybe> ycco: that will be dealt with by xfree config
[05:07] <ycco> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-4-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash vga=791 psmouse.proto=imps
[05:08] <ycco> pybe: it moves the mouse.... but doesn't allow you to "click"
[05:08] <ycco> as it did under Fedora Core 1.0
[05:08] <krix> nvidia
[05:08] <krix> stvn : nvidia binary drivers vs xorg glx module :)
[05:08] <krix> xorg can not load glx module. It say No such module "glx"
[05:08] <krix> :)
[05:08] <pybe> ycco: thats set in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 under the mouse settings
[05:08] <stvn> ah, no nvidia here, so i wouldn't know
[05:09] <krix> hm
[05:09] <krix> i thought this is a base probelm with xorg
[05:09] <krix> not just nvidia related
[05:09] <stvn> krix: you got an url of the description/bugreport
[05:09] <krix> stvn: no
[05:10] <krix> this is my problem :) somebody said that this is a know problem
[05:10] <krix> and it will be fixed today at somethimes
[05:10] <stvn> :)
[05:10] <krix> brb. go to xchat
[05:10] <stvn> krix: ah ok, well update to the latest en greatest and try it ;)
[05:10] <pybe> ycco: do dmesg | grep Synaptics and see if anything comes up
[05:10] <ycco> k
[05:11] <ycco> Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1
[05:11] <ycco> input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio1
[05:11] <krix> re
[05:11] <krix> so anybody knows ? :)
[05:12] <etites> still witht he backward names eh?
[05:12] <ycco> etites: heh
[05:12] <pybe> ycco: do grep synaptics /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[05:12] <ycco> etites: logged in as occy already
[05:12] <ycco> root@distance:~ # cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |grep Synap
[05:12] <ycco> root@distance:~ #
[05:12] <etites> awesome
[05:13] <etites> im so bored now
[05:13] <etites> hehe there nothign to do on linux
[05:13] <pybe> ycco: try lowercase s
[05:13] <etites> not that there was on windows... but still
[05:13] <ycco> no love
[05:13] <etites> i tried running ut2003 linux demo
[05:13] <ycco> pybe: didn't work that way either.  (didn't find anything)
[05:13] <etites> it keeps dropping me to desktop and random points without errors
[05:14] <pybe> ycco: this link should help you out, you need the synaptics driver and some settings in the XFREE Conf http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=887
[05:14] <apes> can someone tell me to to disable the gnome file open security warnings?
[05:14] <ycco> pybe: k, I'll read.
[05:15] <ycco> pybe: sites not resolving.
[05:15] <pe7er> er. sorry, quick question, i "accidently" typed dpkg-reconfigure -a in the shell -- if i abort it with ctrl-c, will anything break?
[05:16] <pybe> ycco: never mind i think is apt-get-able
[05:16] <srbaker> pe7er, probably not
[05:16] <pe7er> srbaker, thank you
[05:16] <pe7er> %(
[05:17] <srbaker> pe7er, what's wrong with just letting it go?
[05:17] <srbaker> pe7er, keep hitting <enter>  it'll have whatever you selected the first time as default :)
[05:17] <pe7er> yes?
[05:17] <pe7er> really?
[05:17] <pe7er> oh let me hug and kiss some devs now
[05:18] <kurtw> Anyone know of a resource for PHP5?
[05:21] <feAR`> how to create an icon/link to My Computer on Ubuntu? x] ]
[05:21] <feAR`> on Desktop i mean x]
[05:22] <Poprocks> just drag it from the menu to the desktop
[05:22] <kent> feAR`, in gconf-editor (its in Program->system tools  - called something else there though, something with edit in the name).  Tell me if you find that program and il help you from there.
[05:23] <feAR`> i`m there ;p
[05:23] <feAR`> as i see, it`s ubuntu patch :}}
[05:23] <feAR`> kent, ok
[05:23] <kent> feAR`, then go to apps->nautilus->desktop  and enable the right icons.
[05:24] <feAR`> ok thanks
[05:24] <kent> feAR`, do you understand?  :)
[05:24] <feAR`> i know what`s next
[05:24] <feAR`> x]
[05:24] <feAR`> thanks.
[05:24] <etites> is there a stylexp thing for gnome?
[05:25] <pybe> etites: themes
[05:25] <etites> yea....
[05:25] <krix> hm
[05:25] <etites> but how good are they
[05:25] <pybe> etites: vgood
[05:25] <krix> anybody got problems with evolution 2.1 in hoary ?
[05:25] <kent> etites, you meen themes that looks like xp? yes. Look at art.gnome.org and  gnome-look.org
[05:25] <krix> i setup my email account
[05:25] <krix> hit to send&recive
[05:25] <etites> like on style xp they morphed everything... i had my windows looking like a mac
[05:25] <krix> and no mail arriving.
[05:25] <etites> not like xp
[05:25] <etites> no
[05:25] <krix> authenticate well but no mail
[05:25] <etites> just something cool
[05:25] <krix> :)
[05:25] <etites> vampiric if possible
[05:26] <kent> etites, those sites have lots of themes.
[05:27] <etites> GDM themes?
[05:28] <kent> etites, yes. gdm etc.
[05:28] <Seabook> Hi guys.
[05:29] <AndyFitz> hi Seabook
[05:29] <Seabook> Is there a URL from which I can check Ubuntu's apt list from the web browser?
[05:31] <etites> does gdm mean login screen because thats all im seeing
[05:31] <etites> is login screens
[05:32] <superted> Seabook: do you mean to browse the repositories?
[05:32] <RuffianSoldier> put in the address of the repos in browser address ba?
[05:32] <Seabook> cuz I'm at school now and I don't have access to my Ubuntu box.
[05:32] <superted> Seabook: then do like RuffianSoldier said
[05:32] <Seabook> What's the address? :D
[05:32] <superted> ubuntuguide.org
[05:32] <ycco> pybe: yeah, that didn't seem to do it.  :/
[05:32] <superted> has them
[05:32] <TopDog> This is a stupid question I know, but I'm used to RPM based distro's... when I download a .deb file manually, how do I install it?
[05:32] <AndyFitz> http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/screenshot.jpg  - gimping it up in ubuntu  :P
[05:32] <Potaje> wenas
[05:32] <RuffianSoldier> The page cannot be found
[05:32] <RuffianSoldier>  The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
[05:32] <superted> AndyFitz: nice :)
[05:32] <kent> TopDog,   dpkg -i PackageName
[05:32] <TopDog> kent, thanks... any way to add a folder to Synaptic?
[05:33] <AndyFitz> cheers superted.  I've gotta head off to sleep now ciao
[05:33] <etites> do the themes alter just login screen... or do they alter everything
[05:33] <superted> what's the name of the pacakge that the updates wallpapers comes with?
[05:33] <kent> TopDog, well, i dont know that right now. But there is probably a howto on the ubuntu homepage for that
[05:33] <TopDog> superted, "ubuntu-calendar"
[05:33] <superted> TopDog: thanks
[05:36] <superted> TopDog: doesn't december exist?
[05:36] <kent> etites, the gdm-theme changes gdm,  gtk+-themes changes applications,  etc. There is probably information about that on the pages.
[05:36] <TopDog> superted, did in desember at least.
[05:36] <Seabook> Is there GnuCash in Ubuntu's apt repositories?
[05:40] <RuffianSoldier> Sealbook - apt-cache search gnucash
[05:40] <RuffianSoldier> DOING!
[05:40] <etites> so i need gtk
[05:40] <etites> 1 or 2
[05:42] <RuffianSoldier> ..................
[05:42] <RuffianSoldier> get both....
[05:42] <etites> i dotn have it already?
[05:42] <RuffianSoldier> im sure you do
[05:43] <dud> ........................
[05:44] <etites> ...................
[05:47] <El_Che> any idea why there is noise when scrolling (AC97 card)
[05:48] <etites> ok i dont see a single theme i wasnt
[05:48] <etites> want*
[05:49] <etites> this sucks
[05:49] <dud> for further dottage, i'd reccomend perl -e 'while (1) { print ".";}'
[05:50] <RuffianSoldier> /name JumbaJibbaJo!
[05:50] <RuffianSoldier> ???
[05:50] <RuffianSoldier> OH!
[05:51] <MagicFab> Hi
[05:51] <dud> o hoi there sailor
[05:51] <JumbaJibbaJo> WHOAH
[05:51] <MagicFab> I need some help printing from Ubuntu to an HP printer shared from a WinXP machine
[05:51] <JumbaJibbaJo> talk about.................. nvm.............
[05:52] <JumbaJibbaJo> MagicFab - here is waht you do - boot into WinXP - then print it from there because Linux sucks
[05:52] <MagicFab> The tool in Computer | System COnfiguration | Printing doesn't seem to provide network browsing of Windows shared printers...
[05:54] <dud> you have to fiddle with samba to get your shared windows files and printers working afaik
[05:54] <Poprocks> yeah there seems to be a problem with ubuntu's samba client, or gnome-vfs.. either way it's really annoying
[05:55] <MagicFab> Pop: it's not even that it doesn't work, it's just that the included tool does not seem to provide for auto-discovery of networked printers
[05:55] <Poprocks> I see, I haven't even required that for my particular setup
[05:56] <Poprocks> but browsing network shares doesn't seem to work
[05:56] <MagicFab> I am able to browse the Windows shares in the network
[05:56] <Poprocks> oh
[05:56] <JumbaJibbaJo> i am not :-(
[05:56] <Poprocks> maybe it's just broken in hoary
[05:56] <MagicFab> via Computer | Network
[05:57] <Poprocks> MagicFab, for the printing thing, can't you just type it in?  That's what I usually have to end up doing in windows anyway
[05:57] <Poprocks> but if it doesn't include a network browser, it probably shoult
[05:57] <Poprocks> should*
[05:57] <MagicFab> I'd love to do that if I knew what to type in in the first place.
[05:57] <MagicFab> "Host" could be different things...
[05:57] <MagicFab> I see no help
[05:58] <Poprocks> I'm at school right now so I can't take a look
[05:58] <MagicFab> Under KDE it's pretty straight forward
[05:58] <Poprocks> yeah KDE's printing system is a lot better than gnome's imho
[05:58] <MagicFab> perhaps there's another tool for CUPS config via GUI ?
[05:59] <Poprocks> well my class is over, g2g :)
[05:59] <mjr> umm, yeah, that's not so much of a gnome thing but a CUPS thing
[05:59] <mjr> but yes, it should include a browser
[06:00] <MagicFab> mjr: that's what I meant... however the KDE desktops I've seen already integrate the CUPS config utils
[06:00] <MagicFab> just trying to explore this from a usability point of view
[06:00] <MagicFab> :D
[06:00] <mjr> yes, and your main point is quite well taken :)
[06:01] <mjr> (though irrelevant for me, no windows printer servers thankyouverymuch ;)
[06:02] <MagicFab> It just so happens that I am often at my customer's location (which still have lots of printers shared this way)
[06:02] <MagicFab> and it's the only way to print for me
[06:02] <mjr> yep
[06:02] <mjr> you probably have to succumb to checking the printer names with smbclient -L
[06:03] <mjr> was it ESR who actually wrote an article on how bad the CUPS config utility is recently
[06:03] <mjr> yeah, http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html
[06:03] <mjr> ok, not that recently :)
[06:04] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[06:04] <da_bon_bon> how do i change the mirrors that apt uses ?
[06:04] <mjr> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <mjr> (there might be a way to do it from synaptic, but I wouldn't know about that)
[06:04] <da_bon_bon> mjr: ok.
[06:05] <MagicFab> I've also heard the GUEST account has to be active!
[06:05] <MagicFab> mjr: that's a start - not familiar with smbclient
[06:05] <MagicFab> I see it doesn't report the printer, but I get other info on the host
[06:06] <mjr> bugger
[06:07] <MagicFab> da_bon_bon: you also go to *Computer | System Configuration | Synaptic Package Manager*, and in Synaptic, choose *Settings | Repositories*
[06:07] <da_bon_bon> MagicFab: thank you...
[06:07] <MagicFab> da_bon_bon: from there you can activate existing repositories or add new ones
[06:07] <da_bon_bon> MagicFab: hmmm
[06:08] <MagicFab> da_bon_bon: both ways (editiing the file or goign through the GUI) require a password
[06:08] <ZzeCoOl> is thjere any way to setup ubuntu network to use a specific login name and password for a samba network?
[06:08] <da_bon_bon> MagicFab: i have sudo with NOPASSWD..
[06:09] <MagicFab> that works too
[06:09] <ZzeCoOl> i cant access windows shares with ubuntu network
[06:10] <izaac> did you alredy check the ubuntu guide?
[06:10] <ZzeCoOl> no?
[06:10] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: I remember that was possible with the linneighborhood package
[06:11] <ZzeCoOl> is there any giude for the network?
[06:11] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: let me try it, I have a related proble (with printers)
[06:11] <ZzeCoOl> ok
[06:11] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: I've been looking for that too
[06:11] <ZzeCoOl> im waiting
[06:11] <ZzeCoOl> i can access the share only with smbmount
[06:12] <MagicFab> linneighborhood package depends on smbfs which is used to mount Windows shares it seems
[06:12] <ZzeCoOl> but i want to make ubuntu network work to
[06:12] <MagicFab> (which can be used to set them up permanently, which I think is why it includes provision for saving password info, etc.)
[06:12] <jadawin> hi all
[06:13] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: for that you need to install Samba server
[06:13] <MagicFab> which is also available in the packages
[06:13] <MagicFab> either from Synaptic or from the command line with apt-get
[06:15] <ZzeCoOl> hmmm
[06:15] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: one you install the linneighborhood packe, you have to invoke LinNeighborhood from command line...
[06:16] <ZzeCoOl> i want to access windows shares from my linux box....and this one needs Samba server?
[06:16] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: yes
[06:16] <ZzeCoOl> sec
[06:16] <MagicFab> Samba provides networking services for shares to be used from Windows
[06:17] <ben_d> MagicFab: I thought you just could get by with smbfs
[06:18] <ZzeCoOl> ben_d: u can but Computer -> Network doesnt work
[06:18] <MagicFab> ben_d: not sure about that
[06:18] <ZzeCoOl> u have to mount anything you want manualy
[06:19] <ben_d> ZzeCoOl: ah ok, I mount everything out of scripts
[06:19] <ZzeCoOl> when you are mounting with scripts there is also a problem.....
[06:20] <ZzeCoOl> how can you setup a share that you have writing access?
[06:20] <ZzeCoOl> are you mounting them in your home dir?
[06:20] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: usually install the samba server
[06:20] <MagicFab> then edit its config file
[06:20] <ZzeCoOl> or at the /mnt/
[06:20] <MagicFab> Not sure about Ubuntu
[06:20] <ben_d> ZzeCoOl: I use smbmount with options for the correct user permissions
[06:21] <ZzeCoOl> ok
[06:21] <MagicFab> ben_d: Zze measn from a Windows machine (don't you) ?
[06:22] <ZzeCoOl> MagicFab: i mean from alinux machine
[06:22] <ZzeCoOl> MagicFab: i want to access windows shares from linux
[06:22] <ZzeCoOl> thats why i waz wondering about samba
[06:22] <MagicFab> Zze: why would you want to setup a SMB share from Linux to access from Linux ?
[06:23] <jadawin> is there a chan for ubuntu maintainer ?
[06:23] <MagicFab> (just curious)
[06:23] <ZzeCoOl> i said WINDOWS shares i never speak about smb shares
[06:24] <ZzeCoOl> windows shares =shares in a windows machine
[06:24] <ZzeCoOl> right?
[06:24] <kezz> doesn't nautilus do that?
[06:25] <ZzeCoOl> Computer->Network works in ubuntu only if the windows share is setuped to lgin as a guest
[06:25] <MagicFab> Zze: SMB share= Windows shares
[06:26] <kezz> smb is the protocol
[06:26] <MagicFab> exactly
[06:27] <MagicFab> Zze: not sure I got your question right from the start
[06:27] <ZzeCoOl> ok then now im siting infront of a pc with ubuntu ...and i want to broswe smb or windows share of another pc in my lan that have windows installed....but it wants username and password to login
[06:27] <ZzeCoOl> this is more clearly
[06:27] <MagicFab> ok
[06:27] <MagicFab> Is there a password setup for the user that is sharing its files ?
[06:28] <ZzeCoOl> if i try computer->network doesnt working
[06:28] <MagicFab> Usually if there is no password set up, I specifiy only the user name and no password
[06:28] <ZzeCoOl> there is a password setup
[06:28] <MagicFab> that is the first authentication asked in some cases
[06:29] <MagicFab> then if there is a password on specific shares, it's another level
[06:29] <bretzel> Is there any thing in ubuntu to play DVD movies ??? I installed all provided xine/maplyer stuff but no luck to play DVD ...
[06:29] <izaac> bretzel
[06:29] <MagicFab> well, enter the user and password of the Windows machine session
[06:29] <ZzeCoOl> i know the username and passwork and what im asking is if there is any way to make Computer->Network folder work
[06:29] <izaac> apt-get install libdvdcss2
[06:29] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: I know this can be setup permanently (with tools like linneighborhood) but haven't played much with that yet
[06:29] <bretzel> izaac: ? and what I am able to do with libdvdcss2 ?
[06:30] <ZzeCoOl> MagicFab: u mish the point about hat im talking about all this time
[06:30] <izaac> bretzel: to play protected DVDS
[06:30] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: do you at least see a "Windows Network" icon when entering Computer > Network ?
[06:30] <ZzeCoOl> yes
[06:30] <MagicFab> Then you're supposed to see the workgroup(s)...?
[06:30] <ZzeCoOl> i can also browse the share but only with the smbmount command
[06:31] <bretzel> cant get this pkg
[06:31] <ZzeCoOl> yes i can also see the workgroups
[06:32] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: I see... I have the same problem (but with printers)... and the properties dialogs in that browser don't help
[06:32] <bretzel> izaac: libdvdcss2 not in any ubuntu sources
[06:32] <izaac> try to add the marillat sources
[06:32] <ZzeCoOl> ...
[06:32] <MagicFab> I think nautilus has extensions for dealing with SMB...
[06:32] <ZzeCoOl> ok
[06:32] <MagicFab> let me see...
[06:33] <pybe-lappy> finally got some part of ubuntu installed on my laptop via hacked net install. x isnt right still. I am assuming that the window manager is not installed. What bits do i need to apt-get?
[06:34] <pybe-lappy> oh and whats the equivalent of rpm -q in debian?
[06:34] <mjr> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:34] <pybe-lappy> mjr: tks
[06:34] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: still there ?
[06:34] <bretzel> ixaac: ,arillat - no such source
[06:34] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: I see a package named gnome-vfs-extras
[06:34] <pybe-lappy> mjr: just a small amount of stuff =)
[06:35] <MagicFab> ZzeCoOl: which is described as:  a collection of gnome-vfs modules which allow you to
[06:35] <MagicFab> access files from different sources with programs which use gnome-vfs.
[06:35] <MagicFab> Right now, gnome-vfs-extras only contains an SMB module that allows you to
[06:35] <MagicFab> access Samba and Windows shares. This can be used within GNOME 1.x
[06:35] <MagicFab> applications which use gnome-vfs to access files.
[06:35] <pybe-lappy> whats the equiv of rpm for deb?
[06:36] <mjr> dpkg
[06:36] <mjr> MagicFab, that's for old gnome 1 stuff
[06:36] <bretzel>  izaac: marillat - no such source or wrong url...
[06:36] <MagicFab> yeah, mentions 1.x ... is there anything similar ?
[06:36] <MagicFab> for 2.x ...
[06:37] <izaac> use synaptic to add the sources
[06:37] <mjr> the gnome-vfs-2 smb module is in libgnomevfs2-common
[06:37] <pybe-lappy> mjr: tks again
[06:37] <Mestapheles> hello
[06:38] <bretzel> izaac: the url I taken and put in synaptic: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ distrib: warty, section:marillat - fails
[06:39] <Mestapheles> listen, I just did a check sum on a burner warty CD.  Shoudl it show the same checksum as the iso image I downloaded?  I don't have the same iso image anymore.
[06:40] <bretzel> sorry - I don't want to be annoying but can only play manually selected indivisual .VOB file from DVDs there is no dvd navigate interaction that is why I ask for the missing stuff...
[06:43] <izaac> bretzel: distrib is testing
[06:45] <GdCondor> hi
[06:45] <GdCondor> how can i install evolution 1.4 on ubuntu (and not 2.0)
[06:45] <kent> GdCondor, why do you want 1.4?
[06:46] <GdCondor> kent : i don't like 2.0
[06:46] <GdCondor> it's not possible to have a shortcut toolbar at the left of the screen...
[06:47] <kent> GdCondor, cant help you with that. Perhaps compile it from source then? or find some repository to add to synaptic that has evo 1.4.
[06:48] <bretzel> izaac: ah ok thx: I gonna retry
[06:50] <HarutoX> hihi
[06:51] <HarutoX> how i can download the servers for amule?
[06:51] <cosco> hello people.. can you tell me how to install radeon drivers on ubuntu linux?
[06:51] <HarutoX> how i can download the servers for amule?
[06:52] <pybe-lappy> HarutoX: there is a button at the top say update or something
[06:52] <HarutoX> oh ok
[06:52] <HarutoX> let em try
[06:52] <pybe-lappy> HarutoX: got a url in the box next to it irc
[06:53] <pybe-lappy> HarutoX: fyi amule didnt work 2 well for me if you have trouble try xmule instead
[06:53] <HarutoX> ty
[06:54] <HarutoX> i got servers now in amule
[06:54] <HarutoX> =)))))
[06:54] <HarutoX> ppl
[06:54] <HarutoX> i want to help all u
[06:55] <kezz> amule crashes when i connect
[06:55] <tazle> hmm
[06:55] <tazle> the ubuntu installer is playing gameswith me
[06:55] <tazle> for some reason I doesn't seem to like my partition tables
[06:56] <HarutoX> if it u havea problem here are a links for full howtoinstall all file:///home/haruto/Desktop/ubuntu/LO%20QUE%20YO%20KERIA.htm
[06:56] <tazle> it only shows one partition on my HDD, of type fat16 too
[06:56] <HarutoX> PPL THERE ARE THE BEST SUPPORT file:///home/haruto/Desktop/ubuntu/LO%20QUE%20YO%20KERIA.htm
[06:56] <HarutoX> REALLY
[06:56] <tazle> in reality there are multiple partitions, and cfdisk shows that too, when I start it in a shell
[06:56] <HarutoX> I DUN HAVE PROBLEM WITH MY UBUNTU
[06:57] <kent> HarutoX, are you kidding?  that support is on your computer and nobody here can fetch it. Its impossible. What are you talking about?
[06:58] <HarutoX> lol
[06:58] <tazle> ha!
[06:58] <HarutoX> just kidding
[06:58] <tazle> I knew it would be lol
[06:58] <HarutoX> here only have the Basic
[06:58] <kezz> tazle, that sounds weird
[06:58] <HarutoX> kent where are u from?
[07:00] <tazle> also, I can't skip the partition editor phase, it keeps throwing me back into it if I hit "Go back"
[07:03] <kent> HarutoX, sweden
[07:06] <ycco> crimsun: you about today?
[07:08] <ions> any particular reason audio CDs would fail to play on a default install?
[07:08] <DanielC> Hello. How do I configure mutimedia (e.g. MP3s, audio CDs) on a brand-new Ubuntu system?
[07:09] <ions> heh
[07:09] <ions> ok, I'm not the only one
[07:09] <DanielC> :-)
[07:09] <pe7er> hey, is there any help out there how i can bring my atmel chip based usb wlan adapter to life? i've found (& apt-get'd) the atmeldriver-source and atmeldriver-tools packages. plus i know of the existance of the 'inofficial driver' at berlios.de
[07:10] <pe7er> DanielC: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94 ... any help?
[07:10] <DanielC> pe7er: thanks, I'll take a look at it.
[07:10] <pe7er> (i haven't got that far as of yet, but did quite a few things as noted at ubuntuguide.org)
[07:10] <ogra> pe7er: doesnt the shipped atmel driver work for you ?
[07:11] <pe7er> oh. there is one?
[07:11] <ogra> DanielC: here is everything in one page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:11] <superted> im trying to install php5 but it depends on libmm11 and says it can't be installed. i got libmm13 installed so what is the problem?
[07:12] <kent> pe7er, that page seems a bit overload? I only added restriced to apt, and installed the gstreamer-plugin for format. And it worked. totem-xine will play movies aswell, no need to compile stuff.
[07:12] <DanielC> ogra: good good. Thanks!
[07:12] <ogra> pe7er: there ate atmel_cs, atmel_pci and atmel
[07:12] <ogra> are eveb
[07:12] <pe7er> how do i get a list of loaded drivers?
[07:12] <ogra> lsmod
[07:12] <kent> pe7er, lsmod
[07:12] <pe7er> thx :)
[07:13] <tazle> argh
[07:13] <tazle> stupid partition damager
[07:13] <ogra> pe7er: but i suspect the usb one needs the prism_usb driver
[07:13] <pe7er> lsmod|grep atmel = no output
[07:13] <kweller> hi guys,i know this it OT, but i was wondering if i could ask something about webhosting?(or is there a channel for it?)
[07:13] <pe7er> lsmod|grep prism = no output, too
[07:14] <ogra> pe7er: so just try to run: sudo modprobe prism2_usb
[07:15] <ogra> pe7er: and look at the last lines of dmesg
[07:15] <kweller> i'm confused on something.the host offers "Shared SSL",but i'm wondering if thats just for when i admin the site,or is it for secure transactions?
[07:15] <ogra> pe7er: try this util you found the right one ;)
[07:15] <ogra> until
[07:18] <pybe-lappy> got my laptop nearly completely working now, cant find the wifi card though. It gets picked up under fedora fine and used a orinoco driver (dell true mobile 1500 i think) its a mini pci card prism based. any ideas how to set it up? It did give me the option to use it on the net install so i know ubuntu knows its there.
[07:18] <feAR`> ogra,
[07:19] <feAR`> i was upgrading my system to hoary, and i get an error
[07:19] <feAR`> Fetched 462MB in 5h51m2s (21,9kB/s)
[07:19] <feAR`> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg/libxtst6_6.8.1-1ubuntu8_i386.deb  Connection timed out
[07:19] <feAR`> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-sqlite/python2.4-sqlite_1.0-2ubuntu1_i386.deb  Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)
[07:19] <feAR`> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python-htmltmpl/python2.3-htmltmpl_1.22-5ubuntu1_all.deb  Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer)
[07:19] <feAR`> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[07:20] <feAR`> ok, i fixed by myself.
[07:21] <pybe-lappy> ok card info sees it as an Intersil PRISM2 11Mbps Wireless Adaptor. How do I set it up as a network device?
[07:22] <xhypno> Hello Room
[07:23] <pe7er> ogra: atmeldriver-tools brings an app called lvnet, its documentation reads "lvnet is the monitor utility for the ATMEL Wireless Card adapters. When the pcmcia module fastvnet_cs, the pci module  pcifvnet.o  or the usb module  vnetusba.o  is  loaded  the  lvnet  application can monitor the device's statistics or change it's runtime parameters." >> Looks good, but how can i load those .o files? it's not sudo modprobe vnetusba (did sudo modprobe -r
[07:23] <pe7er>  prism2_usb for safety)
[07:24] <pe7er> Hell xhypno
[07:24] <pe7er> Hello
[07:25] <pe7er> any idea, anyone? or a hint to a howto would be nice. but i haven't found anything ubuntu specific, plus any info i found seemed to be written for users with a way higher 'experience level' than i have
[07:27] <KING^^^> hello all , can someone help me with something , do i have to install my video card ? if yes how ?
[07:31] <ycco> http://occy.net/inspiron7500  <-- listing of my current problems with my Dell Inspiron 7500 and Ubuntu.
[07:31] <KING^^^> hello all , can someone help me with something , do i have to install my video card ? if yes how ?
[07:34] <fleece> anyone get a KVM working nicely with Ubuntu?
[07:45] <zerok> hi
[07:46] <zenwhen> hay
[07:46] <siretart> hi
[07:47] <siretart> how do I set environment variables for my gnome-session and all started applications?
[07:48] <pybe-lappy> getting this error orinoco_cs: RequestIRQ: Resource in use how can i free up an irq?
[07:51] <khadyoung> ATI is better than nVidia
[07:51] <Agrajag> what
[07:51] <khadyoung> I mean, nVidia is better than ATI
[07:51] <Agrajag> what
[07:52] <khadyoung> Sorry, bad joke
[07:52] <khadyoung> It seems that ATI vs. nVidia flamewars are not allowed. Has this been a problem?
[07:52] <ZzeCoOl> hey guys i download linux kernel source but i cant find version.h in /usr/src/linux/include/linux
[07:52] <Agrajag> flamewars in general are discouraged
[07:53] <Garathor> Hi. When i mount my windows-partitions in Ubuntu, i can't find my files and folders with characters like ,  and  in their names.
[07:53] <Agrajag> Garathor: add the option nls=utf8 in fstab
[07:53] <Agrajag> and remount
[07:54] <ZzeCoOl> where is version.h file?
[07:54] <Garathor> Thankyou. Does this go for both FAT32 and NTFS partitions?
[07:54] <Agrajag> I think so
[07:54] <cosco> hello. i have a ati radoen 9800 PRO graphics card and dont know how to install the driver for it. can you help me ?
[07:55] <ZzeCoOl> cosco:
[07:55] <ZzeCoOl> im trying 2 days now
[07:55] <cosco> this?
[07:55] <cosco> you have radeon 9800 pro too?
[07:55] <cardador> cosco: have you read the howto?
[07:55] <ZzeCoOl> it is the same no matter the model
[07:55] <ZzeCoOl> ati driver is the same
[07:56] <ZzeCoOl> i have 9700pro
[07:56] <ZzeCoOl> it is imposible to make tha latest drivers work ...
[07:56] <ZzeCoOl> but i can give help about oldest drivers
[07:56] <ZzeCoOl> with 3d support
[07:56] <ZzeCoOl> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:57] <ZzeCoOl> follow this steps and you are gonna be ok
[07:57] <cosco> ok
[07:58] <cosco> thank you
[07:58] <ZzeCoOl> np
[08:02] <cosco> another question .. i runed an application with wine , and now it destroyed my resolution, how can i change it back ? xrandr doesnt work
[08:03] <hannes__> glx broken on hoary?
[08:03] <cardador> cosco: ctrl+alt+(+) or (-) will cycle through resolutions
[08:03] <cosco> diesnt work :D
[08:03] <krix> halkeye, maybe yes.
[08:03] <krix> halkeye, what is your problem ?
[08:03] <halkeye> 'cuse me?
[08:03] <cosco> ready.
[08:03] <krix> halkeye, my problem is that xorg cannot load glx module because it say no such module "glx"
[08:04] <cosco> i clicked on COMPUTER -> screen resolution
[08:04] <krix> halkeye, and at you ?
[08:04] <cosco> :D
[08:04] <cardador> cosco: :)
[08:04] <sensebend> cosco, you'll need to edit your configuration
[08:04] <sensebend> for whatever xserver you have
[08:04] <cardador> krix: have you installed the restricted modules for the driver?
[08:04] <krix> cardador, good question
[08:04] <krix> i installed from nvidia site
[08:04] <krix> NVidia.......run file
[08:04] <cardador> krix: wrong answer :)
[08:04] <krix> so not from ubuntu package
[08:04] <krix> cardador, why? :)
[08:05] <cardador> why not?
[08:05] <krix> eh :)
[08:05] <cardador> krix: why not from ubuntu?
[08:05] <krix> 'cause i can not create ubuntu package from nvidia-source
[08:05] <krix> i need it because i'm using kernel2.6.10-686
[08:05] <krix> and for that kernel package there isn't precompiled glx
[08:05] <cardador> krix: hmm ok
[08:05] <krix> nvidia-glx i mean
[08:05] <krix> but. in xorg /usr/X11R6/modules/extensions/
[08:06] <krix> i see libglx.so
[08:06] <krix> what is linked to libglx-NVidia......so
[08:06] <krix> but xorg say to me that no such module "glx" ...
[08:06] <krix> and don't know why. cardador, any idea pleaseeeeee ? :)
[08:07] <cardador> krix: sorry, cant help you :( i havent got a clue
[08:07] <krix> mhm :(
[08:07] <cosco> hello tidwave hello KING
[08:07] <krix> how can i debug Xorg module loading ?
[08:07] <KING^^^> hello all , how cand i change my resolution bigger then 1024x768 ?
[08:08] <krix> hm
[08:08] <krix> i try something for glx
[08:08] <krix> brb
[08:12] <tritium> man, evolution SMTP auth has been broken a long time...
[08:13] <tritium> I finally switched to thunderbird
[08:14] <abelli> seb128: ding
[08:15] <caldwell> it seems i'm missing some man pages.  i get nothing for 'man sprintf', 'man strcat', etc.  What need i install from Synaptic to get these?
[08:15] <brk3> hi, could anyone tell me how to stop X for a while? I want to install my nvidia drivers but when i kill X it just seems to start up again automatically. is there a way of just stopping it?
[08:15] <caldwell> manpages-dev?
[08:16] <caldwell> brk3, init 3
[08:16] <caldwell> changes your runlevel to 'non-X' multiuser mode
[08:16] <caldwell> init 5 to get back
[08:17] <brk3> caldwell: i remember typing that before and it did nothing!
[08:17] <caldwell> manpages-dev did the trick.
[08:18] <caldwell> brk3, wait a minute... ubuntu default runlevel is 2
[08:18] <caldwell> how odd...
[08:18] <brk3> caldwell: if i type that and then kill X will init 3 prevent it from restarting?
[08:18] <brk3> or should it just stop it straight away
[08:19] <caldwell> brk3, read up on runlevels
[08:20] <kezz> would linux single at the boot prompt work?
[08:20] <brk3> sigh.. right so
[08:20] <kezz> no sorry im talking rubbish
[08:20] <leonel> brk3: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:20] <fabbione> brk3: just go to console and do /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:21] <fabbione> caldwell: runlevels in ubuntu are not like in RH or Mandrake
[08:21] <leonel> brk3: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[08:21] <leonel> brk3: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:21] <leonel> brk3: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[08:21] <fabbione> leonel: no
[08:21] <fabbione> it's enough to stop it
[08:21] <leonel> with this 2 X won't start at boot
[08:21] <fabbione> brk3: just do /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:21] <fabbione> leonel: he didn't ask to kill it forever
[08:21] <fabbione> but only for the time to install the Nvidia driver
 caldwell: if i type that and then kill X will init 3 prevent it from restarting?
[08:22] <fabbione> leonel: read the original question
[08:22] <leonel> ok
[08:22] <leonel> whatever
[08:22] <brk3> fabbione: if i do that wont gdm just restart automatically
[08:23] <fabbione> brk3: it will not start until you will type /etc/init.d/gdm start or reboot the machine
[08:23] <fabbione> brk3: the "stop" means to not restart automatically
[08:23] <brk3> fabbione: perfect
[08:23] <brk3> thanks
[08:23] <fabbione> no problem
[08:27] <GFXstyLER> hi
[08:33] <cosco> cosco@ubuntu:~ $ glxinfo | grep render
[08:33] <cosco> direct rendering: No
[08:33] <cosco>     GLX_ATI_render_texture
[08:33] <cosco> i fallow your site.. on installing ati driver on linux
[08:33] <cosco> and ..
[08:33] <cosco> after rebooting , no error but ... no direct rendering
[08:34] <cosco> what can i do to have 3d acceleration?
[08:34] <GFXstyLER> i installed fglrx-driver yesterday, run fglrxconfig, now my x server was trashed again, wtf!
[08:34] <brk3> does anyone know if the mono package is big? im on dialup and am trying to download it. its not showing up the size though..
[08:34] <GFXstyLER> had to install ubuntu again and do this damn configuring etc
[08:35] <cosco> can someone help me?
[08:35] <cosco> after rebooting , no error but ... no direct rendering
[08:35] <cosco> cosco@ubuntu:~ $ glxinfo | grep render
[08:35] <cosco> direct rendering: No
[08:35] <cosco>     GLX_ATI_render_texture
[08:35] <cosco> after rebooting , no error but ... no direct rendering
[08:35] <cosco> can someone help me?
[08:35] <cosco> what can i do to have 3d acceleration?
[08:35] <occy> Removing ubuntu-desktop ...
[08:35] <occy> Removing mozilla-firefox ...
[08:35] <occy> when I apt-get remove mozilla-firefox
[08:36] <jarjacha> holas a todxs
[08:38] <brk3> occy: is there a way to uninstall firefox without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop? i take it uninstalling that would mess up everything
[08:38] <tritium> occy, ubuntu-desktop depends on mozilla-firefox
[08:38] <tritium> that's why...
[08:39] <GFXstyLER> ubuntu-desktop should make no problems when uninstalling
[08:39] <GFXstyLER> i uninstalled it too because of totem-xine
[08:39] <hannes__> I have it uninstalled, nd no problems
[08:40] <GFXstyLER> these #*@!$ ati drivers make much more trouble :)
[08:40] <HaNieL> I'm having problems with my ubuntu install, it cant install the ubuntu desktop package for some reason
[08:40] <HaNieL> or rather, it cant install the openoffice help file, and therefore not the desktoppackage
[08:41] <cosco> please .. someone .. help me
[08:42] <mistic> cosco: ati /nvidia-card?
[08:42] <GFXstyLER> ati
[08:43] <mistic> yeah just saw it
[08:44] <cosco> mistic
[08:44] <cosco> yes.
[08:44] <cosco> ati radeon 9800 pro card
[08:44] <GFXstyLER> i would just wait until ati released better drivers instead of 100 hours figuring out how to geht these drivers to work properly
[08:44] <cosco> (yes , I HAVE ATI )
[08:45] <mistic> cosco: that's odd, my friend has the same card and there it works perfectly
[08:45] <cosco> mistic .. i did your steps
[08:45] <cosco> and the kernel worked fine
[08:45] <cosco> but i have no 3d acceleration
[08:45] <cosco> any suggestions?
[08:46] <mistic> did you adjust your XF86-config?
[08:47] <cosco> Yes
[08:47] <cosco> i did
[08:47] <cosco>        Driver          "fglrx"
[08:48] <mistic> wait a sec, i'm gonna try to get my friend over here :-)
[08:48] <cosco> ok.
[08:48] <Felius> morning all..
[08:48] <mistic> if he's able to get online offcourse
[08:48] <mistic> Felius: i would say good-evening, but whatever :-) goodmorning !
[08:48] <Felius> 06:49 here ;)
[08:49] <mistic> 20.49 here :)
[08:49] <mistic> where ya from?
[08:49] <Felius> Tasmania, Australia.
[08:49] <mistic> ah
[08:49] <mistic> belgium here :)
[08:49] <BoY> iep
[08:49] <mistic> ah cosco
[08:49] <cosco> yes?
[08:49] <mistic> this guy might be able to help you
[08:50] <mistic> BoY that is :D
[08:50] <cosco> BoY
[08:50] <BoY> yes
[08:50] <BoY> what seems to be the problem?
[08:50] <cosco> mistic told you have an ati radeon 9800 pro vicedo card and you install linux drivers on linux and it worked for you
[08:50] <BoY> idd
[08:51] <cosco> i have the same card but .. it doesnt work , i installed the drivers , the kernet 686 but no acceleration
[08:51] <cosco> direct rendering: No
[08:51] <cosco> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:51] <BoY> phone
[08:52] <Felius> I have a question which is probably a FAQ, but I can't seem to find the answer in a FAQ anywhere.
[08:52] <mistic> Felius: did you check the forums?
[08:52] <feAR`> I upgraded from warty to hoarty my system, but there is no bootsplash..;/
[08:52] <feAR`> can someone help me
[08:52] <mistic> cause a lot of would-be-faqs are answered there
[08:53] <Felius> No, hold on..
[08:53] <Felius> Ahh, that looks like a good place to start.  Thanks, mistic.
[08:54] <mistic> np Felius
[08:55] <BoY> hmmm
[08:55] <BoY> cosco: die you compile the right driver in the kernel?
[08:56] <cosco> BoY : i followed  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto <- this guide . step by step
[08:56] <cosco> and btw .. my mother board is nvidia nforce.. if it makes a difference
[08:57] <davmor2> what the problem
[08:58] <BoY> that could make the difference
[08:58] <cosco> so .. what's your proposal?
[08:59] <BoY> funky manual :
[08:59] <BoY> :)
[08:59] <davmor2> BoY/cosco : what is the problem I have nforce 64bit chipset now and had VIA chipset before nvidia module works on both
[09:00] <tid-wave> davmor2: cosco has ATI card
[09:00] <tid-wave> davmor2: and doesn't have direct rendering
[09:00] <BoY> i should install the drivers for the ati site not true aptget
[09:01] <tid-wave> davmor2: he installed the drivers, is using the ati driver for X but direct rendering doesn't work, it uses Mesa renderer
[09:01] <cosco> ZzeCoOl,  welcome back , and btw .. i follow the steps from that URL .. and the kernel works , but i dont have 3d acceleration
[09:01] <ZzeCoOl> ..
[09:01] <tid-wave> BoY: glxinfo | grep direct
[09:02] <tid-wave> BoY: what's the return ?
[09:02] <davmor2> boy : no apt-get drivers should work fine but they are proprietory drivers that need a restricted kernel have you downloaded it
[09:02] <ZzeCoOl> are u sure u dont have 3d support?
[09:02] <ZzeCoOl> did you try any 3d screensaver?
[09:02] <BoY> i dont have a problem :)
[09:02] <BoY> my pc works perfectly
[09:02] <tid-wave> BoY: i know but i was just curious :)
[09:02] <cosco> cosco@ubuntu:/mnt/win1/Program Files/Yahoo!/Messenger $ glxinfo | grep direct
[09:02] <cosco> direct rendering: No
[09:02] <cosco> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[09:02] <ZzeCoOl> cosco:
[09:02] <cosco> i sure dont
[09:03] <cosco> i have 300 fps .. thats not 3d acceleration
[09:03] <tid-wave> davmor2: he followed each step from the guide, i guess he has those modules
[09:03] <BoY> i'm not @ home @ the moment just logged in to my server so cant give you a return :)
[09:03] <ZzeCoOl> did you change ati with fglrx in Xfree xonfig file?
[09:03] <tid-wave> ZzeCoOl: yes he did :)
[09:03] <tid-wave> ZzeCoOl: i am logged on his machine
[09:03] <ZzeCoOl> ati drivers are really pain in the ass
[09:03] <tid-wave> ZzeCoOl: everything is installed as in the guide
[09:03] <ZzeCoOl> wait a sec
[09:04] <ZzeCoOl> cosco: plz go to synaptic and search fgl
[09:04] <cosco> k
[09:04] <ZzeCoOl> and plz tell me the version of the drivers
[09:04] <cosco> <IP_ADDRESS>.3-5 <- last version
[09:04] <ZzeCoOl> hmm
[09:04] <ZzeCoOl> then it have to work
[09:05] <ZzeCoOl> i have problem only with the 3.14.6
[09:05] <feAR`> where to get gaim-vv for ubuntu ? ;( i`m using hoarty..
[09:05] <tid-wave> hmm something IS strange
[09:05] <tid-wave> i see nvidia_agp
[09:05] <tid-wave> loaded
[09:05] <tid-wave> there
[09:05] <feAR`> apt-cache search doesnt found .
[09:06] <ZzeCoOl> im did make it to install properly 3.14.6 but <IP_ADDRESS>.3-5 waz working fine for me
[09:06] <ZzeCoOl> one thing is sure
[09:06] <ZzeCoOl> this isnt any distros problem
[09:06] <cosco> brb reboot
[09:06] <ZzeCoOl> this Fag... ATi is the real problem
[09:07] <ZzeCoOl> they only support windows
[09:07] <tid-wave> they all suck because they don't have free drivers :)
[09:07] <ZzeCoOl> and this minor driver is a filthy programmers shit that may work or not at every distro
[09:08] <cosco> back
[09:08] <ZzeCoOl> i like ATi performance in windows that it is way better than nvidia's but in linux ....nvidia rocks
[09:09] <davmor2> tid-wave try running glxgears in terminal
[09:09] <cosco-> direct rendering: Yes
[09:09] <cosco->     GLX_ATI_render_texture
[09:09] <cosco-> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic
[09:09] <cosco-> THANKS TID_WAVE
[09:09] <ZzeCoOl> there are pathes about the kernel and stuff....but every sigle one that i tryied just doesnt make the game
[09:10] <tid-wave> cosco-: the guide had all the instructions .. you needed to put a line in the config
[09:10] <tid-wave>         Option          "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[09:10] <tid-wave> this one
[09:10] <tid-wave> :)
[09:10] <ZzeCoOl> ?
[09:10] <ZzeCoOl> aha
[09:10] <ZzeCoOl> this one
[09:10] <ZzeCoOl> tid-wave:
[09:10] <cosco-> :)
[09:10] <ZzeCoOl> what driver do you use?
[09:10] <ZzeCoOl> 3.14.6
[09:10] <ZzeCoOl> ?
[09:11] <tid-wave> ZzeCoOl: i don't have any problems .. i am not even using ubuntu but cosco- asked me for help :)
[09:11] <cosco-> TID
[09:11] <cosco-> AI DE PULA MEA
[09:11] <cosco-> CATI FPS
[09:11] <ZzeCoOl> i know that u dont have any problem
[09:11] <tid-wave> ZzeCoOl: i am using nvidia driver
[09:11] <ZzeCoOl> im just curius about the driver that u use
[09:11] <ZzeCoOl> oohhh ok
[09:11] <tid-wave> ZzeCoOl: i have an nvidia Vanta 8 MB :)
[09:11] <ZzeCoOl> hahaahahah
[09:11] <ZzeCoOl> cool
[09:12] <tid-wave> 3d accelaration wth :) i rule
[09:12] <ZzeCoOl> it is a console only machine though
[09:12] <ZzeCoOl> hahaha
[09:12] <tid-wave> not really
[09:12] <tid-wave> i can run bzflag fine
[09:12] <ZzeCoOl> eheh
[09:12] <ZzeCoOl> silicon grapix performance
[09:12] <ZzeCoOl> hahahaha
[09:12] <pe7er> excuse me, is anybody here whos got experience in installing the driver for an atmel chip based usb adapter?
[09:12] <tid-wave> ovidiu@ovibox:/$ glxinfo | grep render
[09:12] <tid-wave> direct rendering: Yes
[09:12] <tid-wave> OpenGL renderer string: RIVA TNT2/AGP/3DNOW!
[09:12] <tid-wave> :)
[09:13] <cosco-> zice no comaptible drive with direkt  draw
[09:13] <cosco-> sorry
[09:13] <cosco-> wrong channel
[09:13] <cosco-> :D
[09:16] <ZzeCoOl> tid-wave: i mess up with my driver setup so bad that after all here is my output of glxinfo | grep render :glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:17] <tid-wave> you must reinstall the driver
[09:17] <dud> has anyone else been getting sound screwups after recent apt-get updates running hoary?
[09:17] <ZzeCoOl> ahah
[09:17] <tid-wave> or hmmm
[09:17] <ZzeCoOl> i allready did it
[09:17] <dud> esd works, but not alsa or oss for me
[09:17] <tid-wave> ZzeCoOl: ls /usr/lib | grep GL
[09:17] <ZzeCoOl> libGLU.so.1
[09:17] <ZzeCoOl> libGLU.so.1.3
[09:17] <dud> well, after a reboot it seems to work, for a while at least
[09:18] <ZzeCoOl> this is what i get
[09:18] <dud> anyone know anything about this?
[09:18] <ZzeCoOl> any thoughts
[09:18] <ZzeCoOl> ?
[09:19] <dud> i dont know, its frustrating when apt-get messes up more than it fixes
[09:19] <dud> but it is development...
[09:19] <dud> branch
[09:20] <ZzeCoOl> tid-wave:
[09:20] <ZzeCoOl> ?
[09:20] <dud> damn stupid of me to do a dist-upgrade now that everything was working so great...
[09:20] <ZzeCoOl> ahmm
[09:20] <tid-wave> ZzeCoOl: you don't have the needed file :)
[09:21] <ZzeCoOl> ok
[09:21] <dud> imma try rebooting again...
[09:21] <ZzeCoOl> im trying to reinstall
[09:22] <Bandit> hello everyone
[09:23] <emwson> Does anyone know if Nautilus use cdrecord to burn CDs?
[09:24] <emwson> I can't get nautilus to recognize my blank CDs, but cdrecord works just fine.
[09:24] <emwson> I'm running a custom kernel.
[09:26] <banditoo> can someone tell me what the latest version of Ubuntu is
[09:26] <emwson> banditoo: 4.10
[09:26] <pe7er> ok. i try a more detailed question: how do i know what packages are "prebuilt" into the ubuntu kernel? this manual i got tells me i've got to patch the kernel if it isn't patched in order to make it work for my configuration. google = no luck, wiki = no luck. but maybe i just don't know the corresponding lockpick (keyword) yet
[09:27] <banditoo> emwson thanks
[09:27] <banditoo>  I have heard some great stuff about this disstro
[09:27] <banditoo> think I may give it a try
[09:27] <emwson> pe7er: You can look at /boot/config-<IP_ADDRESS>-4-386
[09:27] <banditoo> does it support cups?
[09:28] <pe7er> enwson: thanks
[09:28] <pe7er> banditoo: of course(?)
[09:28] <banditoo> nice
[09:29] <pe7er> emwson: i'll have a cd to record in a couple of hours, will ps -x while it gets done if you're still there and don't know yet
[09:29] <banditoo> are there any drawbacks to the distro I hear it is very user friendly and very fast
[09:29] <pe7er> banditoo: it's a preview
[09:29] <banditoo> :) like many of them
[09:29] <pe7er> banditoo: but if you want nothing too specific it works greatly out of the box
[09:29] <pe7er> (as for me)
[09:29] <emwson> pe7er: Yeah, thanks. I'm stumped as to how Nautilus works and really could use some cues.
[09:30] <banditoo> but is it pretty configurable so that you can tweak and add things
[09:30] <pe7er> sure. you can mess up everything you want, it's a linux :)
[09:30] <banditoo> lol
[09:31] <banditoo> ah 1 last thing does it work with k3b
[09:31] <pe7er> doesn't come with it by default
[09:31] <dud> k3b works like a dream for me on hoary
[09:31] <pe7er> but apt-get will work afaik
[09:31] <banditoo> whats hoary
[09:32] <dud> only issue is that when k3b tries to use kdelibs to make sound, it kills my sound in general
[09:32] <banditoo> sorry for so many questions guys
[09:32] <dud> but you can disable sound in the kde control panel
[09:32] <pe7er> banditoo: the preview for the sucessor of the preview. get all info at the wiki
[09:32] <emwson> Hoary is the next, upcoming version of Ubuntu
[09:32] <pe7er> (e.g. current development release)
[09:32] <dud> hoary has more up to date applications
[09:32] <tmccrary> Hey
[09:32] <dud> and so forth more bugs heh
[09:32] <banditoo> nice is it downloadable
[09:33] <banditoo> and i just said i was sorry for the questions :)
[09:33] <pe7er> er. why do you ask them then?
[09:33] <tmccrary> Does ubuntu have a public cvs server that I can access? I'd like to get the ubuntu-installer source. I know it's a debian fork, but I'd like to start with the ubuntu version
[09:33] <pe7er> but i'm happy to be able to be able to answer to some questions
[09:33] <pe7er> :)
[09:33] <banditoo> well i am sorry but I want to know so I ask
[09:33] <banditoo> :)
[09:33] <kezz> banditoo, just replace every warty in /etc/apt/sources.list with hoary and then update
[09:34] <gen> if you don't know how to do it, then you shouldn't be using hoary
[09:34] <banditoo> hmmm
[09:34] <emwson> tmccrazy: I dunno, but guess that http://patches.ubuntulinux.org/patches/ is a start?
[09:34] <banditoo> well three of you guys were extremely helfull thanks
[09:35] <banditoo> but there is always someone that needs to insult us dumb guys :(
[09:36] <tmccrary> emwson, thanks. Although, I'd like to get anonymous cvs access (or svn..whatever) if possible. Patches are great, but not exactly what I'm looking for. :)
[09:36] <emwson> Heh, tell it, brother...
[09:39] <emwson> Does anyone know if Nautilus use cdrecord to burn CDs?
[09:40] <tmccrary> So basically there's no way to get Ubuntu source? Or am I going to have to call them or something?
[09:41] <kezz> im not sure tmccrary i wouldn't mind a peek either
[09:41] <emwson> tmccrary: a quick mail to the devel mailing list or one of the maintainers might provide the quickest answer.
[09:42] <tmccrary> yeah, but you'd think they'd be like other distros and not have it completely hidden :) like cvs.ubuntulinux.org or something
[09:42] <kezz> already tried that :P
[09:43] <dud> nautilus coasted a dvd+r for me
[09:43] <tmccrary> maybe it's ran by canonical
[09:43] <dud> trying to burn an iso...
[09:43] <emwson> I can burn CDs with cdrecord, but nautilus claims that there is no blank media in my CDRW?
[09:44] <DagaZ> is it possible to make a netinstall of ubuntu?
[09:44] <emwson> I'm running a custom kernel, btw.
[09:44] <zenrox> DagaZ,  yes go search the wiki
[09:45] <zenrox> www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki
[09:45] <DagaZ> zenrox: ok.. thx for the tip
[09:45] <zenrox> DagaZ,  n/p
[09:45] <invisiblekid> I recently used Partition Magic to partition a part of my WinXP hdd and install a second OS (Ubuntu) but now i cannot load into windows  It says it is missing xmnt2002 and autochk  Anyone know what the problem is?
[09:45] <invisiblekid> Ubuntu boots just fine
[09:46] <tmccrary> It's a blessing :) j/k
[09:49] <emwson> invisiblekid: Can you boot into safe mode?
[09:50] <kent> The shared folders program in Hoary have a small problem (or perhaps the design of the system). It seems to start as root and as such,  it dont have my bookmarks in the file-selection-window when i add stuff to share etc. For a user that seems a bit strange, since it would be handy to have
[09:51] <invisiblekid> i havent tried booting in safe mode emwson but i will try
[09:52] <emwson> If you can't, I'd consider rescuing the files you need using Knoppix and then just reinstall the whole, darn Windows thing.
[09:52] <invisiblekid> ok
[09:53] <invisiblekid> thank you
[10:06] <battletux> Hi can anyone point me to a guide to setting up SSH on warty please?
[10:08] <zerokarmaleft> can someone running hoary check for me to see if ubuntu-patched 2.6.10 kernel sources are available?
[10:08] <jdub> battletux: apt-get install openssh-server <- guide :-)
[10:10] <battletux> thank jdub
[10:10] <pe7er> battletux: more at the wiki -- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[10:11] <battletux> cheers
[10:11] <battletux> i'll gho do some reading
[10:11] <battletux> *go
[10:11] <pe7er> make sure to start sshd before connecting to it :)
[10:11] <ZzeCoOl> hey guys take a look at this ...
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> root@Afterburner:/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod # ./make.sh
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> ATI module generator V 2.0
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> [10:12] <ZzeCoOl> initializing...
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> Error:
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> XFree86 drm includes at /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-4-k7/build/include/../drivers/char/drm do not fit this driver.
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> This driver is designed to only work with X4.1.0 or higher.
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> You can match this by getting Linux kernel 2.4.8 or higher.
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> root@Afterburner:/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod #
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> does anyone knows what is wrong?
[10:12] <ZzeCoOl> .
[10:12] <esqueleto> hello people
[10:13] <krix> hey there
[10:15] <siretart> ZzeCoOl: have you considered using linux-restricted-modules or if not avaiable module-assisstant?
[10:15] <esqueleto> one thing ... we can install ubuntu without been connected to internet ....
[10:15] <ZzeCoOl> i did
[10:16] <esqueleto> i don't know why but after the installation i he did not installed X
[10:17] <esqueleto> when i do startx ... i get the X binary is not in the system
[10:17] <esqueleto> i try to look in other places but was not in the system ..
[10:18] <esqueleto> how can i install it again with apt or alien from CD
[10:19] <dud> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[10:19] <dud> should do it
[10:19] <dud> or xserver-xfree if you want xfree86
[10:19] <esqueleto> ok ... i will try ...
[10:19] <esqueleto> i want xorg
[10:20] <esqueleto> do you think that X server was not installed for some reason ??
[10:20] <jdub> esqueleto: try installing ubuntu-desktop, see what it says
[10:21] <esqueleto> ubuntu-desktop ??? do you mean apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ??
[10:22] <jdub> yes
[10:22] <esqueleto> ok ..
[10:22] <esqueleto> i will try that too
[10:24] <esqueleto> it said that i have some problems to resolve with dependecy ..
[10:24] <esqueleto> and connot do that ....
[10:24] <kent> esqueleto, did it say something about running "apt-get -f install"?  that usually fixes stuff.
[10:24] <esqueleto> give me some errors..
[10:25] <jdub> esqueleto: paste them - we can't help otherwise
[10:25] <esqueleto> it's in another computer .. i have to write it here
[10:26] <HaNieL> ehm.... im confused... how do i change runlevels in ubuntu??
[10:26] <HaNieL> like init 3, console only and init 5 X ??
[10:26] <esqueleto> what do you want me to paste here .. the fist error .. the one ask me to make apt-get -f install ... or the other ??
[10:26] <esqueleto> the second ??
[10:27] <jdub> the first error when you try to install ubuntu-desktop
[10:27] <esqueleto> ok ...
[10:27] <esqueleto> ...
[10:27] <esqueleto> The folling package have unmet dependecies
[10:27] <HaNieL> after ive exitted GNOME how do i start it again????
[10:28] <HaNieL> /sbin/telinit 5 dont work
[10:28] <esqueleto> ubuntu-desktop: Depends: gnome-pilot-conduits it is not going to be installed
[10:29] <esqueleto> gnome-system-tools
[10:29] <esqueleto> lsb
[10:29] <esqueleto> python-gd
[10:29] <esqueleto> python2.3-pisock
[10:29] <esqueleto> slocate
[10:29] <esqueleto> unzip
[10:29] <esqueleto> vino
[10:29] <esqueleto> wvdial
[10:29] <esqueleto> x-ttcidfont-conf
[10:30] <esqueleto> x-window-system-core
[10:30] <esqueleto> xchat
[10:31] <esqueleto> xfree86-driver-synaptics
[10:31] <zerokarmaleft> stop flooding please
[10:31] <esqueleto> xpdf
[10:31] <kent> esqueleto, are you running hoary or warty?
[10:31] <esqueleto> warty
[10:31] <jdub> esqueleto: how did you do your install?
[10:31] <esqueleto> i put the CD .. and start install
[10:31] <esqueleto> simple
[10:32] <jdub> esqueleto: this should definitely not happen - try running the install again, but do not update from the internet
[10:32] <esqueleto> i don't have internet yet
[10:32] <esqueleto> in this computer..
[10:32] <esqueleto> the ubuntu did not detected the wireless
[10:33] <kebac> i have Teh Internte
[10:33] <esqueleto> ok .. i will try again
[10:33] <kent> I have the internet aswell ;)
[10:34] <pe7er> atmel chip based usb adapter?
[10:34] <pe7er> i need people to share this nightmare with me
[10:34] <zerokarmaleft> can someone running hoary check for me to see if ubuntu-patched 2.6.10 kernel sources are available?
[10:35] <jdub> zerokarmaleft: yes, of course
[10:35] <zerokarmaleft> excellent
[10:36] <LucidVisions> hello all, Ive been on a 3 month hiatus
[10:36] <LucidVisions> im back here to this wonderful ubuntu community
[10:37] <LucidVisions> ive been using osx,,but im back to unbuntu on an x86
[10:38] <jintonic> heya, i just installed ubuntu warty and x wont start up
[10:38] <zerokarmaleft> LucidVisions, what did you do with your mac?
[10:38] <xhypno> anyone running a server with ubuntu on it????
[10:38] <LucidVisions> zerokermaleft: I sold it for some serious $$
[10:39] <LucidVisions> built 2 pc's and got some phat herB
[10:39] <LucidVisions> heh
[10:39] <LucidVisions> it ran great,it was a powerbook
[10:39] <jintonic> x says: (EE) No devices detected.... fatal server error: no screens found
[10:40] <xhypno> run xconfig and reconfig the display/vid card
[10:40] <zerokarmaleft> that's a helluva bargain
[10:40] <jintonic> xf86config, right?
[10:41] <LucidVisions> I had it for school,but now im back to hardcore x86 linux
[10:41] <zerokarmaleft> LucidVisions, welcome back :)
[10:41] <LucidVisions> and ubuntu is my linux distro of choice
[10:41] <LucidVisions> thanks
[10:42] <LucidVisions> I pop in here once a week,http://www.osdl.org/
[10:42] <LucidVisions> im like 5 miles away
[10:42] <LucidVisions> its where Linux torvalds works
[10:43] <jintonic> ok, no response so i'll guess thats right... horizontal sync i get stuck on... my lcd does up to 1024x768 at 60Hz and only 60Hz
[10:43] <jintonic> so what should the horiz sync be?
[10:43] <LucidVisions> but he stays home except 1 day a week or so
[10:43] <LucidVisions> Beaverton,Oregon
[10:43] <LucidVisions> http://www.osdl.org/
[10:44] <zerokarmaleft> i'd rather talk to andrew morton
[10:45] <jintonic> anybody?
[10:46] <Quest-Master> Is Linux originally European?
[10:46] <Quest-Master> I meant
[10:46] <Quest-Master> Linus
[10:46] <Quest-Master> ><
[10:46] <zerokarmaleft> linus is finnish
[10:46] <tmccrary> Does applications:/// work for anyone using Hoary?
[10:46] <tmccrary> In Nautilus
[10:46] <Quest-Master> Ah
[10:46] <zerokarmaleft> jintonic, what brand/model lcd do you have?
[10:47] <jintonic> sony sdm-s51
[10:47] <LucidVisions> uh,why andrew,he is always so buisy
[10:47] <jintonic> i tried looking up the specs on it but for some reason acrobat is crashing
[10:48] <LucidVisions> andrew morton drinks to much
[10:48] <LucidVisions> hehe
[10:48] <LucidVisions> no one is from oregon here?
[10:48] <zerokarmaleft> he has more to say, but you're right...it's probably faster just to read his posts on lkml
[10:48] <zerokarmaleft> i'd drink with him
[10:48] <zerokarmaleft> drink his ass under the table
[10:49] <LucidVisions> zerokermaleft: I acually beleive you could,,hehe
[10:49] <jintonic> also: i'm using an ati radeon 9200 128MB video card, where should i get drivers specificly made for it instead of the generic driver?
[10:49] <LucidVisions> you sound like you should live here in oregon
[10:50] <LucidVisions> are most the people here from other countries?
[10:50] <siimo> hi anyone here want to test a firefox cvs build optimized for athlon-xp's will also work on athlon-mp amd64 sampron and newer durons, i want to check if it works on ubuntu stable
[10:50] <LucidVisions> continents
[10:50] <LucidVisions> pardon my missspelling
[10:51] <fleece> woohoo!  I just figured out how to get Ubuntu to work with my KVM.
[10:51] <fleece> now my mouse doesn't schitz when I switch
[10:51] <zerokarmaleft> jintonic, i'll look em up for you
[10:51] <jintonic> thank you
[10:52] <LucidVisions> non-us?
[10:52] <LucidVisions> most people here
[10:52] <jintonic> no way! heh... ati gives away linux drivers... its in rpm format though
[10:52] <LucidVisions> which is very cool if indeed so
[10:52] <fleece> LucidVisions: I'm probably six miles from you right now
[10:53] <xhypno> run xconfig and reconfig the display/vid card
[10:53] <xhypno> srry
[10:53] <xhypno> anyone running a server with ubuntu on it????
[10:54] <jintonic> xhypno: writing a command shorthand isn't a good idea in case people dunno what command you're doing shorthand of :P
[10:54] <UnderPar> greetings everyone from the land of ice and snow
[10:54] <HrdwrBoB> xhypno: yes
[10:54] <sensebend> UnderPar, Canada?
[10:55] <UnderPar> lol yeah
[10:55] <UnderPar> Ontario to be exact
[10:55] <sensebend> <[10:55] <sensebend> also an Ontarian :)
[10:55] <UnderPar> pleased to meet you