[00:00] <IndianSlim> Thanks but I'm not interested in having ops
[00:00] <IndianSlim> Hello jacober!
[00:00] <jacober> hello
[00:00] <IndianSlim> How are you today?
[00:00] <IndianSlim> How can we help??
[00:00] <pfirsich> I will try just installing windows and see what happens. thanks a lot jeremy31 , bprompt and d0tsun7 !
[00:00] <jacober> well, you?
[00:01] <IndianSlim> Fantastic! 19.10 dropped so good times!!
[00:01] <bprompt> pfirsich:  right, that doesn't mean Windows was busted, it could just have been that the UUID had changed and Grub wasn't updated
[00:01] <el> IndianSlim: please stop.
[00:01] <IndianSlim> Hello xamithan!
[00:01] <d0tsun7> pfirsich did you install ubuntu and then install windows? for me, i've installed windows and then ubuntu and it's worked good. maybe the other way around would cause issues.
[00:01] <IndianSlim> el please don't highlight me
[00:02] <pfirsich> initially I did install ubuntu after windows. Now I will do it the other way around. But if that doesn't work I can (or have to) install ubuntu again, so it might work then
[00:02] <IndianSlim> pfirsich you know where to find us no worries! Best of luck!
[00:02] <el> IndianSlim: please don't be insulting to users here or you'll be removed.
[00:02] <leftyfb> pfirsich: installing Windows after Ubuntu will prevent Ubuntu from booting. Windows will not add an entry for Ubuntu to boot.
[00:03] <bprompt> pfirsich:  sounds to me you'll be installing both either way =)
[00:03] <jacober> pfirsich windows wont install with another os on the UUID
[00:03] <IndianSlim> el No one has insulted anyone, please mind your own business and stop highlighting me please
[00:03] <d0tsun7> for the love of god IndianSlim just shutup
[00:03] <IndianSlim> d0tsun7 no need to be rude
[00:03] <IndianSlim> Hello fuze!
[00:03] <pfirsich> thanks again! see you
[00:03] <d0tsun7> thank you el
[00:04] <d0tsun7> pfirsich: defiinitely fresh installs cure all. if you do a fresh install of windows and then install ubuntu right after, i think that order will work best
[00:05] <rzulo> i'm installing ubuntu server 18.04, and the default network setup didn't work.  does anyone know where i should get started with troubleshooting?
[00:05] <d0tsun7> pfirsich: bcdedit /set "{bootmgr}" path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi
[00:05] <leftyfb> rzulo: I've had issues with the live installer of 18.04 server and the networking. You should try the alternate installer instead if you don't mine reinstalling
[00:06] <d0tsun7> pfirsich: install windows 10 first. then install ubuntu. likely ubuntu will not be seen by the windows grub. launch into windows and open RUN and type bcdedit /set "{bootmgr}" path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi which will let the linux grub take over and allow you to boot into windows or ubuntu from there
[00:06] <d0tsun7> i've turned my join/quit messages off, hopefully he saw that.
[00:07] <ryuo> d0tsun7: nope. they already bailed.
[00:07] <jeremy31> d0tsun7: they are gone
[00:07] <d0tsun7> dang....he really needed to see that last message. i was just searching for that RUN command the whole time
[00:07] <d0tsun7> oh well... he may be back
[00:08] <jeremy31> d0tsun7: if they read the links I posted, they have that info
[00:08] <d0tsun7> jeremy31: ok cool
[00:21] <k0d3g3ar> upgraded my 16.04 to 18.04 and Network Manager OpenVPN fails.  Any attempt to connect to any VPN profile that is there does nothing.  No indication, no logs, etc.  Any suggestions?
[00:24] <Zaliek> When I did the upgrade I had to delete all of my profiles and set them up again
[00:25] <k0d3g3ar> Zaliek: yeh, I ended up deleting them and recreated because the TLS security thing required new certs from my server, so it was easier to do this by recreaction.  Funny thing is my laptop upgraded and worked perfectly.  Just not my desktop rig
[00:25] <k0d3g3ar> But also just no activity in the indicator icon at all.  Used to get something while it tried to connect, and then an indication when it did connect.  Now it is just dead - nothing going on up there at all
[00:26] <Zaliek> Yep, experienced that too
[00:26] <k0d3g3ar> nothing in journalctl or syslog either
[00:26] <Zaliek> Later versions of ubuntu desktop fixed the indicator issues
[00:27] <k0d3g3ar> what version are you running now?
[00:27] <Zaliek> 19.10
[00:27] <k0d3g3ar> k  I'm tempted to take it to the next level then
[00:27] <Zaliek> I only run LTS releases on servers, desktop just changes too fast
[00:27] <Zaliek> And really the upgrades are usually pain free
[00:27] <k0d3g3ar> yeh, I was going to wait until 20.04 LTS
[00:28] <Zaliek> However the change from Unity to Gnome was surprisingly well done but there was a lot of gore
[00:28] <k0d3g3ar> I'm running MATE   Do you think I'll hit the same issues
[00:29] <Zaliek> Can't say. But any official flavor will attempt to make version upgrades as pain free as possible
[00:29] <Zaliek> You should always take a system image upgrading though
[00:29] <k0d3g3ar> k, thanks for the info.  Helps me feel like I'm not losing my mind
[00:29] <Zaliek> *before upgrading
[00:30] <k0d3g3ar> well I'm tempted to throw caution to the wind.  My other option was a fresh install, and spend the week trying to put it all back on there again
[00:30] <Zaliek> But yeah unless you're running desktop in a corporate environment or something embedded that isn't at all failure tolerant
[00:31] <d0tsun7> i def always dd my disk before upgrades
[00:31] <d0tsun7> helped me a lot
[00:31] <Zaliek> Then using LTS releases usually does a disservice to the desktop experience
[00:31] <d0tsun7> clonezilla is a decent tool
[00:31] <k0d3g3ar> nah, just my home computer workstation.  I develop on it though, so it all all that stuff that is a pain to reinstall
[00:31] <Zaliek> Because you're stuck with the same bugs for a long time
[00:31] <Zaliek> And a lot of new features you won't get
[00:32] <k0d3g3ar> d0tsun7: I have a RAID 1 LVM here.  will that work?
[00:32] <Zaliek> IMO the ubuntu live cd/usb and using the disks program to image drives works well
[00:33] <d0tsun7> k0d3g3ar: i believe an LVM2 snapshot would definitely work as long as your snapshot partition doesn't fill up.
[00:33] <k0d3g3ar> k thanks
[00:34] <d0tsun7> k0d3g3ar: i use LVM all the time, works wonders. i for some reason feel a little safer DDing an image to an external drive, but don't see any reason why LVM2 wouldn't work. LVM2 has definitely gotten me out of some sticky situations
[00:35] <k0d3g3ar> got it.  thanks
[00:35] <Zaliek> k0d3g3ar, for illustrative purposes: I've been upgrading my laptop since 14.04. And I do dev work, VMs, all that jazz
[00:36] <Zaliek> I never experienced more than minor glitches from upgrading
[00:36] <k0d3g3ar> Zaliek: this is my first "upgrade".  I've always done fresh installs and gone through the upgrade week of hell each time.  Thought it as my right of passage or something.  Been doing that since 8
[00:36] <d0tsun7> zaliek: i was not familiar that the ubuntu disk had that option. that's pretty cool.
[00:37] <Zaliek> d0tsun7, I really like using that because it's easy to mount those images and explore the files contained in the image
[00:38] <Zaliek> Clonezilla makes images that I could never figure out how to access besides restoring to a drive
[00:38] <d0tsun7> zaliek: will it accept reads on any image or only images produced by that ubuntu disk program? -- that is pretty cool
[00:38] <k0d3g3ar> is what you are referring to the "Create Disk Image" option in the "Disks" app in the menu?
[00:38] <d0tsun7> zaliek: true. clonezilla saves it in an odd way for sure
[00:38] <leftyfb> Zaliek: it's a raw image. Using something like losetup to detect and setup loop devices for you to mount the separate partitions
[00:38] <Zaliek> Yeah that's the option
[00:39] <Zaliek> It pretty much works exactly the same as if you inserted a physical drive
[00:39] <Zaliek> Use the OS tools to decrypt and mount partitions, etc
[00:40] <d0tsun7> so if im in "Disks" where would isee that tool
[00:40] <d0tsun7> ah i see it.
[00:41] <d0tsun7> well that's nifty. learn something new every day.
[00:41] <Zaliek> Yeah depends on the version of gnome you're running
[00:41] <Zaliek> They like to change the UI
[00:42] <d0tsun7> so if you wanted to browse that image, which option would you select to view those files
[00:43] <Zaliek> Attach Disk Image
[00:43] <d0tsun7> within the Disks 3 dotted icon to reveal the menu
[00:43] <d0tsun7> ahh, nice.
[00:43] <d0tsun7> interesting no permissions conflict doing it that way.
[00:44] <d0tsun7> pretty cool.
[00:44] <d0tsun7> i always thought the file system being in use would stop a proper image being taken like that
[00:45] <ZeZu> Why do I get a 'starting a job for /dev/disk-by/UUID' or similar that takes a minute an a half every boot?   I did 'dd' a previous partition to a new drive,  but then expanded the file system (ext4) and it's a clean mount I can't find any reason for this.
[00:45] <Zaliek> Oh, I dunno if I'd take an image while the system is running
[00:46] <Zaliek> I boot the installer in live mode and take an image there
[00:47] <d0tsun7> zaliek: roger that.
[00:50] <k0d3g3ar> i don't think it lets you take an image of it while it is running.  I'm getting "Error unmounting /dev/md0p2:  target is busy"
[00:50] <d0tsun7> k0d3g3ar good call
[00:51] <k0d3g3ar> I think I have to do this off a livecd
[00:52] <d0tsun7> hey anyone know about dash to panel gnome extention in 19.10? i seem to have lost my task bar integrated into my top bar when i upgraded from 18.10
[00:53] <d0tsun7> i remember having to fenagle with it when i upgraded from 16.04 to 17.04. seemed to work through 18.04, buut now back to not working with 19.10
[00:54] <Zaliek> gnome extensions are very fragile
[00:54] <Zaliek> I'd consider it a miracle if they're still functioning on a new version of gnome
[00:54] <d0tsun7> yeah for sure...seems to have trouble
[01:09] <cluelessperson_> d0tsun7, Zaliek   You can set the filesystem to read only and image it then.
[01:10] <d0tsun7> cluelessperson_ oh really
[01:13] <cluelessperson_> d0tsun7, as long as you're not running anything that requires writing
[01:15] <d0tsun7> cool
[01:30] <fructose> leftyfb | d0tsun7: also, undo anything fructose told you. You should not need any special configs for CTRL+shift+C to work
[01:31] <fructose> d0tsun7: You wanted to yank from vim, right?
[01:34] <ZeZu> eh it's starting to look like time to switch to another distro
[01:36] <oerheks1> ZeZu, one could perform a filecheck/smart report
[01:37] <ZeZu> already all done
[01:37] <ZeZu> also checked journalctl
[01:37] <ZeZu> but that's not the only reason i'm considering switching after over a decade,  it's been one problem after another
[01:39] <ZeZu> anyhow, with that particular problem I think it was timing out so i changed the timeout for persistent journal to 10s and it still goes for 90sec ..
[01:40] <Bashing-om> ZeZu: duplicated the UUIDs -such that now they are no longer unique ?
[01:41] <ZeZu> no, the other partition is not on a connected device
[01:42] <ZeZu> Ofc I googled and found out this seems to have been a common problem, and was solved by some changes to init scripts .. however the changes are already in place it was an older problem. I haven't been able to pin a reason down at all
[01:43] <oerheks1> vague, "init scipts" ..
[01:43] <ZeZu> indeed but I don't currently recall which tbh
[01:43] <ZeZu> there are quite a few after all
[01:46] <ZeZu> if you want more fun,   video is still tearing in browser and vlc .. sometimes other things flicker through vlc,  all instances of chrome turn completely black after resuming from sleep,  libstdc++ is still 'broken' (imo why would it need another library to link to w. -fs suffix, yet the non -fs one contains filesystem it just doesn't work) and yeah I could keep going on like the energizer bunny but it's pointless.  I seem to have
[01:46] <ZeZu> excellent luck lately with ubuntu
[01:47] <energizer> and going and going
[01:47] <ZeZu> :)
[01:47] <ZeZu> didn't know i'd his someones handle lmao
[01:47] <ZeZu> s/his/hit
[01:51] <ZeZu> systemd-journal-flush.service https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/4422
[01:53] <ZeZu> https://hastebin.com/cecuxutufo.sql
[02:16] <altendky> lotuspsychje: welp, i just got back to this and also to a point with the external monitor working.  The two other issues we've dealt with are still present but hey, one by one.  https://github.com/altendky/issues/issues/1#issuecomment-560197332
[02:23] <altendky> since i am presently recreating https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1854177 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1854413 in Ubuntu 18.04 rather than the reported 19.10, should I report new bugs?  can I add other distribution versions to the same issue?
[02:31]  * rocky is there any reason here as a regular user i shouldn't be able to use the smartctl tool to check out my nvme drive? can't seem to get it working...
[02:31] <rocky> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DzRK1y06/
[02:32] <altendky> rocky: is that a gen2?
[02:32] <rocky> sudo works fine of course
[02:32] <rocky> atol-71: the laptop you mean? yes
[02:32] <altendky> or just straight x1 extreme
[02:33] <rocky> gen2 yeah
[02:33] <rocky> trying to monitor the temp of my nvme drives
[02:33] <rocky> without sudo
[02:35] <altendky> rocky: sorry to hijack, i don't know anything about those tools.  i'm forgetting if we had talked...  :|  i'm working on getting three things working at once on my p1 gen 2 (with oled).  resume, screen brightness, and hdmi.  (and i guess i'd like it to be kubuntu 19.10...)  i think i might be close to having resolutions for each but i'm curious, are they all working for you?
[02:36] <leftyfb> rocky: https://www.computing.zone/run-smartctl-without-password/
[02:37] <leftyfb> rocky: also, did you log out and back in after adding yourself to the disk group?
[02:38] <akk> I have a bug on launchpad and I've been asked to add an attachment. I click on "add attachment or patch", navigate to the file and click Open, add a comment for it and click "Post comment" ...
[02:39] <rocky> @leftyfb yeah,otherwise running "groups" didn't display the disk group that was in my paste... but i'll try the sudoers thing
[02:39] <rocky> altendky: i haven't tried hdmi ... but resume (from suspend) and screen brightness work fine
[02:39] <akk> ... and the "Add a comment or attachment" page reloads, with the filename gone, but if I go back to the bug page and reload, my attachment isn't there.
[02:39] <leftyfb> rocky: you'll still need to use sudo to run smartctl, it just won't ask for a password. But, if you're running this in any sort of automated way, you really should just be running it as root
[02:39] <akk> What am I doing wong, how can I attach files to a bug?
[02:39] <altendky> rocky: what distro/release/kernel version, if you don't mind?  oled screen?
[02:40] <rocky> leftyfb: all i'm doing is trying to get the Freon gnome extension to display my nvme drive temps in the task bar
[02:40] <rocky> and i'm assuming it can't do sudo since it refreshes evrery 5 sec
[02:40] <leftyfb> rocky: use lmsensors?
[02:40] <rocky> lmsensors doesn't do nvme
[02:41] <rocky> altendky: ubuntu 19.10 with standard kernel
[02:41] <rocky> Freon has support for using nvme-cli and smarttools to monitor nvme temp apparently but it's not working for me :/
[02:41] <altendky> rocky: alrighty, thanks.
[02:42] <rocky> altendky: i should add that this was originally a 19.04 setup and i upgraded (without using the ubuntu live cd) to 19.10
[02:43] <rocky> altendky: only thing not working for me (that i wish was working) is the fingerprint device
[02:43] <altendky> rocky: best i know on that is that fprintd iirc is supposed to support it in v2
[02:43] <rocky> yeah that's what i've seen as well
[02:43] <rocky> i have an external usb-based fingerprint device that i refuse to use lol
[02:44] <altendky> rocky: though i didn't bother on my last laptop because only one auth mechanism (fingerprint or password) could be active at once.  so you had to fail the active one to use the other which just seemed silly.
[02:44] <Bashing-om> rocky: Add the nvme to /etc/hddtemp.db ? I had to for my SSD device: https://askubuntu.com/questions/474669/ssd-temperature-sensor-readout-with-hddtemp .
[02:44] <rocky> oh, i've never really used the fingerprint stuff in linux anyhow so i didnt know what to expect
[02:45] <rocky> Bashing-om: hm, i have no /etc/hddtemp.db
[02:45] <altendky> rocky: it may be different now.  that was a couple years ago maybe
[02:47] <Bashing-om> rocky: Got me - I donot recall if the installation of "lmsensors" creates the file. "sysop@x1804mini:~$ ls -al /etc/hddtemp.db
[02:47] <Bashing-om> >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6811 Sep 21 18:48 /etc/hddtemp.db"
[02:48] <rocky> well i mean this just seems to be a very weird perms problem to me... you can see it not working for my regular user when it clearly should (and working fine with sudo) here:  https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DzRK1y06/
[02:49] <rocky> obviously my current user, rocky, is in the disk group and the disk group has rw access to the device
[02:50] <altendky> rocky: i'd expect it to go into /sys somewhere, not the device itself.  wouldn't that /dev/nvme1n1 be the actual on-disk data?
[02:50] <rocky> hm, you may have a valid point
[02:50] <altendky> rocky: though i've got no *nvme* under there...  hmm
[02:51] <altendky> bah, on the first laptop i don't because, well, it doesn't have nvme.  plenty of hits on the laptop that does :]
[02:52] <rocky> yeah i installed a second nvme on this thinkpad so i have my 512gb for ubuntu and my 1tb for windows dual boot
[02:52] <rocky> although i run ubuntu about 95% and windows 5%
[02:53] <rocky> and i wasn't able to install a heat sink on my additional nvme drive which is why i'm trying to monitor temp lol
[03:31] <denza242> Hi, my audio doesn't seem to work unless I run alsactl restore every time i plug in my headphones
[03:46] <sazawal> I have this bug in my recently installed gnome-shell for Ubuntu 19.04, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1822846 . Someone has mentioned that "This bug was fixed in the package gnome-shell - 3.32.1-1ubuntu1~19.04.1". My question is how do I apply this fix, or how do I upgrade my gnome-shell to this version. My gnome-shell version is GNOME Shell 3.32.0
[03:53] <Bashing-om> !info gnome-shell disco
[03:53] <Bashing-om> sazawal: ^^ ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[03:59] <Erikria> Allo?
[04:01] <matsaman> Erikria: allo allo
[04:02] <sazawal> Bashing-om, Hi. it doesn't show any upgrades when I update it. I don't know if this particular Gnome 3.32.1-1 is a normal update or a fix
[04:03] <Bashing-om> sazawal: checking.
[04:05] <Bashing-om> sazawal: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-shell&searchon=names&suite=disco-updates&section=all suggest it is  a normal update.
[04:06] <sazawal> Bashing-om, I see. How do I go about applying this update?
[04:07] <Bashing-om> sazawal: sudo apt update sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[04:07] <sazawal> Bashing-om, it says that the system is up to date.
[04:08] <Bashing-om> sazawal: Hummm ... how about sudo apt install --reinstall gnome-shell ?
[04:09] <sazawal> Bashing-om, Yes I also tried that, but ended up installing the same version.
[04:10] <sazawal> By the way, when I go to Settings>Details, it says that my Gnome is 3.32.1. But on terminal, gnome-shell --version says that I have 3.32.0
[04:13] <Bashing-om> sazawal: Pastebin ' apt policy gnome-shell ' - see what we can do to find out the why.
[04:15] <sazawal> Bashing-om, Hi. Sorry I will be back later. I gotta go now.
[04:27] <foo> Downloaded ubuntu desktop ISO. I'm on OS X. I think I have to install the ISO to a USB thumb drive, correct? I have an 8GB thumb drive right here
[04:29] <Bashing-om> foo: "copy" the .ISO to the USB thumb drive ( Mac has 'dd',no?).
[04:29] <foo> Bashing-om: yes, I believe it's just a dd command to do the "copy" (I don't believe you mean to actually cp file.iso /Volumes/thumb-drive
[04:30] <gry> 8GB thumb drive is good
[04:31] <foo> perhaps the better question is, in os x, how do I dd the ubuntu desktop ISO to the 8GB thumb drive? (I think that's what needs to happen, anyway)
[04:33] <matsaman> foo: like what the device path will be?
[04:33] <matsaman> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-disk-image-on-mac-os-x-with-dd-command/
[04:33] <foo> matsaman: so, I just downloaded ubuntu desktop. It downloads a 2GB ISO.
[04:33] <foo> ahh, perfect... that's what I'm looking for
[04:33] <foo> thank you matsaman  :)
[04:34] <matsaman> there are apps if you'd rather, but
[04:34] <Bashing-om> foo: I expect Mac to be similar to ubuntu's command. i.e 'sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync" .
[04:34]  * foo a bit rusty, first time installing ubuntu desktop in over a decade
[04:34] <matsaman> usually confirming a particular device is the same size as what it should be is enough
[04:34] <matsaman> can't say I've ever dd'd from macOS
[04:34] <matsaman> y'know, just don't get of= wrong =)
[04:35] <foo> :)
[04:41] <altendky> what's the upside of dd vs. cp for this?  i've just been doing cp kubuntu-... /dev/sdc
[04:41] <foo> oh, I didn't think I could cp like that?
[04:41] <foo> I like that idea if that works
[04:41] <foo> altendky: and you can boot from that?
[04:42] <altendky> foo: i didn't think so either but...  though i've been doing it in linux, not macos.  yes, done that several times recently working through some issues on my new laptop
[04:42] <altendky> but like i asked, i don't know if there are reasons to use dd instead
[04:44] <dax> there aren't
[04:45] <leftyfb> altendky: cp isn't meant to do that. dd is also able to work with block devices in ways cp cannot. Like copying in different chunk sizes starting or ending at different by sectors
[04:45] <oerheks1> dd, sync
[04:45] <leftyfb> just because something "works", doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job. I see no advantage of using cp over dd.
[04:46] <altendky> leftyfb: other than intended usage of the commands, the difference in this case is that you might be able to get better performance if you pick the 'right' block size for dd?
[04:46] <altendky> leftyfb: sure, i'm not arguing cp is better.
[04:46] <dax> they do the same thing, and last time i benchmarked them cp wasn't any slower
[04:47] <dax> if you're used to one of them, just use that
[04:49] <foo> huh, good to know. thanks altendky for sharing that.
[04:49] <foo> More for curiosity, I'll probably go with sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[04:49] <foo> Although not sure what the sync does
[04:50] <foo> sync -- force completion of pending disk writes (flush cache)
[04:50] <foo> ah
[04:51] <matsaman> particularly useful for usb storage
[04:51] <matsaman> which can frequently pretend it's done when it isn't
[04:51] <foo> matsaman: good to know
[04:52] <matsaman> usually because of the FSes preferred by USB, but still
[04:57] <DarkTrick> (A) Could someone confirm please? (1) Open "Show Applications" (2) Find an application who's name is too long to display (so "..." is shown) (3) hover over it. (4) There is no tooltip showing the full name of the application.
[04:58] <matsaman> DarkTrick: in what version?
[04:58] <DarkTrick> (A) matsaman, 19.10
[05:10] <foo> sudo dd if=ubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64-2.iso of=/dev/disk2s2 bs=4M status=progress && sync says dd: bs: illegal numeric value
[05:10]  * foo investigates
[05:10] <bayar> Hi, where I can get some help about conjure?
[05:11] <bayar> And MAAS.
[05:12] <bayar> I'm trying to setup open stack using conjure-up and I'm blocked with : ceph-mon/2 waiting for machine
[05:12] <leftyfb> bayar: try #maas
[05:13] <bayar> Thanks leftyfb
[05:15] <foo> $ sudo dd if=ubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64-2.iso of=/dev/disk2s2 bs=4m && sync
[05:15] <foo> dd: /dev/disk2s2: Operation not permitted
[05:15] <foo> bah. OS X.
[05:16] <oerheks1> use disk, not partition  /dev/disk2
[05:19] <djzn> we used to have /etc/network/interfaces but now that file is gone. Where exactly do we have the file in which is all the networking interfaces listed in new Ubuntu?
[05:20] <Bashing-om> !netplan | djzn
[05:20] <oerheks1> djzn, on what ubuntu ?
[05:20] <djzn> 19.10
[05:20] <matsaman> yaml, gross
[05:20] <oerheks1> you might have networkmanager takng care of that
[05:21] <djzn> I cat'ed this file there is nothing on it
[05:21] <oerheks1> that is correct.
[05:21] <djzn> Renderer: Network manager
[05:21] <djzn> and where is the file NetworkManager is talking about the ifaces?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> matsaman: lets keep general opinions out of the support channel please
[05:24] <matsaman> sure, but if you don't want people to consider a thing, why put it into the factoid
[05:25] <djzn> oerheks1, it says it should be /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[05:25] <djzn> dir is empty! LOL
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> matsaman: the yaml file is essential to netplan
[05:26] <matsaman> lotuspsychje: uhuh, but not that it's yaml
[06:04] <ColdKeyboard> Anyone have a suggestion why a Ubuntu Server would stop responding to ssh after a while (hours or days)?
[06:04] <ColdKeyboard> I've built my NAS and it works perfectly most of the time but after I don't use it for hours or days, I try to SSH into it and it's not responding...
[06:04] <ColdKeyboard> I don't have a monitor or keyboard attached to it so I can only setup/diagnose it remotely
[06:51] <pi0> how do i tell which driver version a usb device is running
[07:11] <tatertots> pi0: depends on the device...usb webcams common in laptops will using a kernel uvcvideo driver
[07:11] <pi0> https://github.com/quickreflex/rtl8188eus
[07:12] <pi0> trying to compile these drivers
[07:12] <tatertots> if you're trying to do something with USB WLAN adapters there's a lot of people here that get a kick out of stuff like that...maybe jeremy is around
[07:13] <EdFletcherT137> pi0: you could diff the output of `lsmod` from before & after plugging in the device, that might tell you something. also, `dmesg` and `syslog`
[07:13] <tatertots> if so let's be specific and actually state it's a USB wireless card instead of generically and vaguely saying "usb device"
[07:14] <tatertots> pi0: is it a USB wireless adapter?
[07:14] <pi0> EdFletcherT137: i will check that out
[07:14] <pi0> tatertots: yes
[07:15] <pi0> RTL8188ETV 0bda:0179
[07:15] <tatertots> ...why i had to force that out of you is beyond me lol
[07:16] <pi0> ah i should have used better wording, that is correct :D
[07:16] <pi0> my apologies
[07:16] <pi0> i noticed i had this cheap little usb adaptor that supports monitor mode
[07:16] <pi0> based on that github
[07:19] <pi0> EdFletcherT137: tatertots: i ran the make all, sudo make install
[07:19] <pi0> and thought that would install the drivers
[07:19] <pi0> after those commands did i need to use dkms add .
[07:19] <pi0> dkms build 8188eu/1.0
[07:19] <pi0> dkms install 8188eu/1.0
[07:19] <pi0> also
[07:21] <tatertots> pi0: your instructions tell you to reboot or unplug / replug the device?...if so did you follow the instructions to the letter?
[07:25] <pi0> it does not
[07:25] <pi0> there is a lot of assuming
[07:25] <pi0> in that instructions
[07:27] <tatertots> ducasse: hey this guy has a wlan adapter and wants to make it work
[07:27] <pi0> yes please
[08:34] <Lope> I've installed ubuntu via debootstrap, and then KDE plasma, so I've got a minimal system. I want to be able to print a document via a physical USB printer now
[08:34] <Lope> I've installed cups but I don't have a printer GUI and my printer doesn't show up when I try print a document
[08:35] <rbasak> Sounds like you got yourself a _broken_ minimal system by using debootstrap instead of a supported installer.
[08:35] <Lope> previously when I had a full-fat Ubuntu install I used to be able to just plugin a USB printer, and there was a GTK/QT GUI in my program launcher that used to list all my printers
[08:35] <rbasak> Simplest solution: use a proper installer!
[08:35] <Lope> and when I pressed print, it listed my printer, and I could print.
[08:35] <Lope> What is the gtk/qt printer GUI program called?
[08:36] <Lope> I'm not going to reinstall.
[08:36] <Lope> I want to know what components are needed for printing
[08:38] <ducasse> you are looking for system-config-printer, maybe?
[08:39] <ducasse> that's the gnome thingy, though, no idea of the kde couterpart
[08:41] <Lope> ah yes, I just found and installed that
[08:42] <ducasse> you could also use the cups web interface
[08:51] <Industrial> Hi. I'm on 19.10. I am not using GNOME but I am using XMonad. How do I connect to my Bluetooth Speaker from the command line?
[09:12] <melatonina> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu 19.10. In the last few weeks, I need to press Control-C (or click on the "Copy" menu item) two or three times to actually copy something. This started with 19.04 and was not fixed when I upgraded to 19.10. It didn't use to be so. Do you know why?
[09:18] <ice9> how to enable RDP in remmina?
[09:18] <gry> ask ##linux
[09:31] <Aryan> hi
[09:33] <ice9> when i access RDP of remote windows server i get "the display settings cannot be changed from a remote session" and i'm unable to change the resolution, any idea?
[09:56] <ice9> guys i really need help on this;  i tried rdesktop and remmina to access remote windows server but the resolution is too small and i'm unable to change it, any idea?
[10:47] <nsh> annoying problem has manifested on a relatively fresh xubuntu 19 install where NetworkManager can't seem to store/access secrets for mobile broadband connection
[10:47] <nsh> (has no trouble with wifi secrets)
[10:47] <nsh> anyone encountered this or have ideas on how to debug?
[10:48] <nsh> (gnome-keyring-daemon is running)
[10:48] <nsh> i can enter the password in "edit connections" for the connection but it is lost immediately or not saved at all
[10:49] <nsh> even more annoyingly it's just "password" because 4g is derp
[10:49] <nsh> so i can echo "password" | nmcli --ask con up <connection name>
[10:49] <nsh> and it works fine, but obviously it'd be far preferable if nm-applet would do it properly
[10:50] <Seveas> nsh: is /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/$NAME_OF_CONNECTION writable?
[10:52] <Seveas> if it doesn't exist, make sure you've made the connection available to all users in the applet
[10:53] <doublel93> Hello, is keyserver.ubuntu.com down or something ? I see a internal server error like this one https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&options=mr&exact=on&search=0x7BF576066ADA65728FC7E70A8C47BE8E75BCA694
[10:54] <Seveas> doublel93: looks like it
[10:54] <nsh> 600 root.root Seveas (read/writable by root)
[10:54] <nsh> same as the wifi connections
[10:55] <nsh> seems the integration with the secrets agent is broken somehow
[10:55] <Seveas> should be good. Is the password in the file?
[10:56] <nsh> no password field, just password-flags=1
[10:57] <Seveas> you could try manually adding it to the file and restarting. Don't know the name of the field though, it's been a while since I did 3g from the laptop :(
[10:59] <Seveas> ah, the field name is password
[10:59] <doublel93> Seveas, do you know where I can find info/updates about it ? I can't install certbot :(
[10:59] <nsh> mm
[10:59] <nsh> in NM debug output when i save the connection in nm-applet there's: <debug> [1575284332.2868] Saving secrets for connection /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Settings/6 (giffgaff Mobile Broadband)
[10:59] <nsh> but the file is untouched
[11:00] <Seveas> flag 0x0000001 the agent owns the secret
[11:01] <Seveas> so there's a setting you've ticked somewhere that makes it not store the password
[11:01] <Seveas> I have no clue which one that would be though. Still digging through code :)
[11:03] <Seveas> hmm, that seems to be the default
[11:04] <Seveas> doublel93: unfortunately not. But you can grab keys from other servers. apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver url_of_other_keyserver_here key_id_here
[11:05] <doublel93> ok thanks
[11:08] <nsh> ty Seveas, will debug a bit more when i've had lunch :)
[11:10] <scratchy> jo
[11:10] <scratchy> https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&options=mr&exact=on&search=0xE1B39B6EF6DDB96564797591AE33835F504A1A25
[11:10] <scratchy> whos guilty on this? :D
[11:12] <lluad> Anyone know off-hand where i'd start to debug xorg crashes in 19.10? Directions on building from upstream source and running it manually, say.
[11:14] <tsarompy> your Xorg log id think?
[11:15] <lluad> Yeah, I've got that and gdb backtraces of the crash. Now I probably need to start doing git bisect to see where the bug was introduced upstream, I think.
[11:27] <solsTiCe> hi. I have an issue with the wifi on BCM43142. the connection is ok and then immediatly disconnect and loop like that. I can see in the log of the AP that my wifi interface is authenticated and associated. I amusing wl driver on 19.10.
[11:28] <tsarompy> do you have multiple things managing your card?
[11:28] <tsarompy> i had a similar issue using wicd when networkmanager was running
[11:36] <jeremy31> solsTiCe: in terminal do>  sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf && systemctl restart network-manager.service
[11:36] <jeremy31> That will disable wifi power management
[11:36] <solsTiCe> ok
[11:36] <tsarompy> :)
[11:49] <sveinse> I'm having problems getting 19.10 up and running with multiple screens on my Lenovo P51 laptiop (using hybrid graphics). It just doesn't detect the external screens. Running the testet nvidia driver. The irony is that this is working on 18.04. Any ideas on how to proceed?
[11:49] <sveinse> Give up 19.10 and wait for 20.04?
[11:51] <sveinse> I've tested running discrete graphics only from BIOS. This hangs the 19.10 boot and I get no gdm login.
[11:55] <sveinse> Running nouveau had no positive effect. Still only the built-in display and it won't detect the external screens
[12:14] <solsTiCe> still no wifi
[12:17] <solsTiCe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rVWB265rfG/
[12:18] <solsTiCe> I even disable country reg set. no luck
[12:44] <neopsyche> Hi all.. im having some SMB issue.. the server shows .. but when clicking on it (ubuntu 18 share to ubuntu 16 machine) it just says ;timed out;
[12:44] <neopsyche> I am trying to share to kodi
[12:48] <neopsyche> Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection timed out
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:58] <neopsyche> hi
[12:58] <neopsyche> apologies, it was simple firewall issue
[12:58] <neopsyche> keep well all
[13:35] <Erikria> .
[13:37] <Lope> ducasse, sorry for late reply thanks, you were right BTW
[13:39] <ducasse> about system-config-printer? i had to install it manually myself, i have a similar situation
[14:36] <giaco> hello. Sometimes the sdcard slot in my laptop stops working and I have to reboot the laptop to get it back agains. How can I troubleshoot this?
[14:46] <Phruis> giaco, look at your logs with gnome log viewer
[14:46] <Phruis> giaco, probably some module is crashing
[14:50] <Industrial> Hi. I'm on 19.10. How do I connect to my Bluetooth Speaker from the command line?
[14:53] <Chunkyz> Hi there! how do I set "permissions" for a folder/user so that everyone can access the folder?
[14:53] <Chunkyz> I'm seeing only root can: drwxrwx--- 7 777 root 4096 Dec  1 21:59 /mnt/2TB/Downloads/config
[14:55] <mouses> Chunkyz: You need to set the 'other' flags.  In this case, chmod directoryname o+rwx
[14:55] <mouses> Chunkyz: add a -R if you want it to recursively set perms to any files/directories in that directory.
[14:56] <mouses> Far better to assign a group and use group access, however, setting full world read/write/exec like that can and often is a security hole
[14:57] <Chunkyz> sudo chown *ubuntuuser*:*ubuntuuser* /mnt/2TB/Downloads/config
[14:57] <Chunkyz> sorted I think, just rebooting.
[15:01] <giaco> Phruis: no hints from dmesg :-/
[15:04] <Ool> Chunkyz: what's FS do you have on your external device ?
[15:04] <Chunkyz> ext4
[15:06] <Ecko_> If I added a new route to my routing table, is a network restart needed?
[15:06] <Ecko_> And if I indeed do a restart, what happens with the current connections?
[15:10] <leftyfb> Ecko_: depends on how you added the route
[15:12] <grady> Hi, does somebody else have problem to play x265 videos wirh Nvidia drivers? It is slugish but in windows there isnt any problem.
[15:14] <grady> Im one click away to buy 5700 xt, but does it fix the issue
[15:16] <grady> Search engines dosnt find anything what fit to  my problem
[15:17] <ioria> grady, i think it's a codec problem, not driver's
[15:17] <grady> What you mean?
[15:18] <grady> Do you have same issue
[15:18] <adrian_1908> grady: x265 works smoothly here on GTX970, proprietary drivers.
[15:18] <grady> I have 960 gtx
[15:18] <grady> With 4gb ram
[15:19] <adrian_1908> Which player are you using?
[15:19] <grady> And 440 drivers
[15:19] <grady> Vlc mpv...
[15:19] <ioria> grady, ^ what player ?
[15:20] <ioria> grady, mpv should work
[15:20] <grady> Nope
[15:20] <adrian_1908> Using mpv here too, 390 drivers. Never had any issues in that regard in the past.
[15:20] <grady> My hevc videos has 100mb bitrate and 60fps
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> grady: ubuntu version? computer specs?
[15:22] <grady> Vlc plays these same files in windows ok
[15:23] <grady> So i think that the problem is in the drivers
[15:23] <ioria> grady, easy to test; remove nvidia and try with nouveau
[15:24] <SE7EN`> ^
[15:24] <grady> It isnt what i want
[15:24] <ZeZu> are you even using a hardware decoder?
[15:24] <grady> I still want to use my desktop
[15:24] <ZeZu> or what does this have to do with the video driver?
[15:25] <SE7EN`> do glxinfo | grep "client glx version string"
[15:25] <ducasse> is the vdpau driver installed?
[15:26] <grady> My cpu is that 2011v3 58xxK i7
[15:26] <grady> 4.2ghz oc
[15:27] <grady> Mem is 32gb ddr4 2400mhz
[15:28] <adrian_1908> grady: run what was suggested and report back
[15:28] <grady> Vdpau? I use nvidias ubuntu team drivers
[15:28] <SE7EN`> grady: those specs should have no problem with decoding as long as you have the right modules and such
[15:29] <altendky> if i'm building master-next, what config should i use to be as it will be released?  just remove the file and then `yes '' | make oldconfig`?
[15:29] <SE7EN`> grady: Also check VLC -> Tools -> Preferences -> Input & Codec Settings, maybe try a different setting than "automatic"
[15:30] <grady> I already tested all of them, no change
[15:31] <SE7EN`> grady: join #vlc and post glxinfo as well as current version of nvidia drivers
[15:31] <SE7EN`> grady: #videolan sorry
[15:31] <grady> But i need them working on video editors.. it isnt just vlc problem
[15:32] <grady> I also use low latency kernel image
[15:32] <grady> Not help
[15:33] <SE7EN`> without posting any info regarding your current packages it would be hard to troubleshoot. Hardware decoding can get sticky especially if not using stable tested nvidia packages
[15:33] <SE7EN`> and/or multiple GPUs
[15:35] <grady> Hevc dosnt work on any debian or ubuntu based distros, with or without ubuntus own nvidia drivers
[15:35] <SE7EN`> my thought process of joining the #videolan channel is that they have guys who mess around with decoding on the regular.
[15:36] <SE7EN`> grady: just post results of the command `glxinfo|egrep "OpenGL vendor|OpenGL renderer*"`  without the ``s
[15:37] <grady> I do after i get to my computer. Im now on my phone...
[15:37] <SE7EN`> grady: Okay. Feel free to drop me PM I'm at work but on bouncer.
[15:38] <ZeZu> I guess at least mine works,  no vsync and other items flickers through but i'm just used to it
[15:38] <SE7EN`> another thing to try would to ensure PowerMizer is set to Performance in nvidia-settings
[15:39] <ZeZu> or just use the software decoder
[15:39] <SE7EN`> that too.
[15:39] <ZeZu> it has better quality anyhow
[15:39] <SE7EN`> i7 shouldn't have problems
[15:39] <SE7EN`> but I could be wrong
[15:40] <ZeZu> no the decoder wouldn't have an issue with that cpu unless he's trying to decode 8k files w. a bunch of background processes
[15:42] <SE7EN`> Yeah which is totally possible knowing this channel. Might be worth getting sysbench results too just to see the health state
[15:44] <ZeZu> indeed never know,  video could be on an ancient half dead hdd over usb2 trying to decode 4k+
[15:44] <ZeZu> mixed with whatever random other things trying to use it
[15:44] <SE7EN`> -_- smh, *rides away on cybertruck with elon musk* :P
[15:50] <grady> back to computer
[16:16] <ioria> grady, the first thing i'd suggest is to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:20] <kantlivelong> is there list of kernel command line options to disable security mitigation for recent cpu exploits?
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> kantlivelong: maybe the #ubuntu-kernel guys might know that one
[16:21] <kantlivelong> righto will try there
[16:33] <d0tsun7> mornin ubuntu dudes
[16:33] <d0tsun7> hope everyoens coffee is legit
[17:01] <Dasuni> hello, who can help me with mozilla thunderbird?
[17:02] <JonelethIrenicus> Dasuni, ask your question
[17:03] <Dasuni> when i send message from email, i get error 80004005
[17:04] <JonelethIrenicus> did you try restarting thunderbird
[17:05] <Dasuni> many times restarted. The computer also
[17:05] <JonelethIrenicus> disable lighting
[17:05] <JonelethIrenicus> the addon
[17:05] <JonelethIrenicus> does that solve the problem/
[17:06] <Dasuni> ok, i try
[17:07] <Dasuni> no, it not helps
[17:08] <ZeZu> ok,  deff journald that is broken
[17:09] <ZeZu> 95G	/var/log
[17:09] <ZeZu> smdh
[17:12] <ZeZu> or not,  it's syslog
[17:12] <JonelethIrenicus> Dasuni, sorry i do not know then
[17:12] <ZeZu> 91G	/var/log/syslog
[17:12] <ZeZu> wtf...
[17:12] <Dasuni> ok, thx
[17:26] <genii> A 91G syslog sounds to me like something is screwy with your logrotate settings
[17:34] <Volad_Malevich> Hi guys, help me to install drivers on Wifi on the laptop
[17:34] <Volad_Malevich> them
[17:37] <genii> Volad_Malevich: What adapter is it?
[17:37] <Volad_Malevich> RT3592 Wireless 802.11abgn 2T / 2R PCIe
[17:41] <Volad_Malevich> genii RT3592 Wireless 802.11abgn 2T / 2R PCIe
[17:45] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, can you paste lspci -nnk ?   ( lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999 )
[17:47] <Volad_Malevich> ioria https://termbin.com/8kr6
[17:47] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, dmesg | grep rt2  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:51] <Volad_Malevich> ioria empty output
[17:52] <ioria> Volad_Malevich,   what's your kernel  ? uname -r
[17:52] <Volad_Malevich> ioria 4.15.0-72-generic
[17:55] <ioria> Volad_Malevich,   sudo modprobe -v rt2800pci
[17:57] <genii> Volad_Malevich: Apologies on lag, work required me. But I see that you are being assisted now
[18:09] <JonelethIrenicus> how can i remove the snap folder in my home folder?
[18:09] <leftyfb> JonelethIrenicus: why do you need to?
[18:10] <leftyfb> JonelethIrenicus: some applications are installed from snap by default now. So your settings for those applications will be in that directory. Deleting that will not go unpunished
[18:10] <JonelethIrenicus> leftyfb, it bothers me
[18:11] <JonelethIrenicus> leftyfb, shouldn't it be in a .snap folder then
[18:11] <JonelethIrenicus> i will never interact with it
[18:11] <JonelethIrenicus> so why is it in my home folder and not a dot file if it is in the home folder?
[18:11] <leftyfb> JonelethIrenicus: feel free to join #snappy and/or file a bug report if one doesn't already exist.
[18:12] <leftyfb> JonelethIrenicus: other than that, you should leave it
[18:13] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1575053
[18:15] <leftyfb> looks like the devs aren't interested in changing it
[18:15] <JonelethIrenicus> sadly
[18:16] <JonelethIrenicus> makes no sense
[18:16] <JonelethIrenicus> typical for canonical though i guess
[18:21] <Volad_Malevich> ioria sudo modprobe -v rt2800pci tells empty
[18:23] <pi0> how can you determine which usb wireless adapter  driver is being used?
[18:23] <pi0> i recently compiled a driver and wanted to determine if it was being used
[18:25] <Volad_Malevich> ioria sudo lshw -C network shows next: https://termbin.com/6dhf
[18:26] <ioria> Volad_Malevich,  again    lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:28] <Volad_Malevich> ioria https://termbin.com/orgt
[18:29] <ioria> Volad_Malevich,  the module now is loaded : paste   dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:30] <pi0> any proper way to trouble shooting
[18:30] <ZeZu> grr,  so i deleted the 92G syslog,  and now it's going 'somewhere' ... disk usage analyser cant even find it but it's used up another 92G and du isn't being helpful either
[18:31] <Volad_Malevich> ioria I see... last time I sent you output of lspci -nnk I disabled it manually adding it to blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-rt2800pci.conf
[18:31] <Volad_Malevich> that's why this time driver enabled
[18:31] <ducasse> ZeZu: something must have been holding the file open
[18:31] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, yes ....
[18:31] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, why did you blacklist it ?
[18:32] <Volad_Malevich> ioria https://termbin.com/5ep2
[18:32]  * ZeZu sighs
[18:32] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, is associated now; does it work ?
[18:33] <Volad_Malevich> ioria tried to reinstall it earlier using forum manual
[18:33] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, is associated now; does it work ?
[18:33] <Volad_Malevich> I see all networks, but when I trying to connect it fails
[18:34] <SimonNL> pi0: lspci -nnk  like ioria showed or  sudo lshw -C network like Volad_Malevich showed    lshw possibly needs installing
[18:34] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, try to disconnect the other device (usb lan adapter wlx502b73a0010e)
[18:34] <Volad_Malevich> other time connecting, but when I open any site in browser wifi connection to router again disconnecting
[18:35] <ZeZu> I guess it wants another 2 minute reboot,   anyone know how I can pin down what is actually taking  systemd-journal-flush that long,  I think it's a timeout but i changed the timeout val in systemd-journal-flush.service and it doesn't change the 90second wait
[18:35] <ZeZu> as with everything else,  it only confuses things more for no reason
[18:36] <ZeZu> journalctl -u systemd-journal-flush -o short-monotonic -b  : runs w.o a hitch,  so i know the journal is being written,  can i just rearrange its boot order and put it after something further in ?
[18:36] <Volad_Malevich> ioria wlx502b73a0010e helps me to reach my notebook. All action that I did with onboard wifi I did with wlx502b73a0010e disconnected
[18:38] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, so you can connect , but the connection drops suddenly ?
[18:38] <pi0> SimonNL: what is the proper way to install drivers
[18:38] <pi0> i compied them
[18:39] <Volad_Malevich> yes... it drops or any wifi-networks not in list
[18:39] <SimonNL> compiled*
[18:39] <pi0> SimonNL: tying to do this https://github.com/quickreflex/rtl8188eus
[18:39] <SimonNL> pi0: you'll have to wait for someone else to answer that
[18:40] <Volad_Malevich> ioria can I send you DM?
[18:40] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, DM ?
[18:40] <Volad_Malevich> direct message
[18:41] <ioria> Volad_Malevich, usually we work on  public , but if you relly need it, ok
[18:41] <ZeZu> to install drivers?  you just put them in the correct kernel modules directory
[18:42] <ZeZu> most should handle it in build
[18:42] <ZeZu> since they are versioned for the kernel you build for
[18:43] <ZeZu> that one is dkms, it should deff. install itself
[18:43] <Volad_Malevich> ioria I don't care, but it's more comfortablу
[18:43] <ZeZu> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS
[18:43] <ZeZu> @ pi0
[18:43] <ducasse> pi0: just do the dkms steps and you should be set
[18:43] <pi0> after compile?
[18:44] <ducasse> no make install needed
[18:44] <ZeZu> it will do it for you
[18:44] <ducasse> dkms does that
[18:44] <pi0> so just do make all
[18:44] <ZeZu> no
[18:44] <pi0> then dkms
[18:44] <ZeZu> read that url
[18:44] <ducasse> no make
[18:44] <ZeZu> you don't need to make it yourself
[18:45] <SimonNL> Or with DKMS     didn't see that myself at first
[18:45] <pi0> hmm but its only src
[18:45] <pi0> from that github
[18:46] <pi0> not compiled drivers
[18:46] <ducasse> yes, dkms will build it for your kernel
[18:46] <pi0> oh
[18:46] <pi0> nice
[18:46] <pi0> i will read that
[18:46] <pi0> brb thank you
[18:46] <pi0> be right back
[19:17] <croraf_> Hi. I see here https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/kernel/linux-generic that 5.3.0-23 is latest, but my updater offers me 5.3.0-24. How come?
[19:18] <EriC^> !eoan
[19:18] <EriC^> !info linux-generic eoan
[19:18] <ZeZu> I about give up,  fix one problem at two more popup ...      It's supposed to auto login,  it doesn't, i get login screen.. whatever:  login.. only it doesn't go to the desktop it just goes right back to login screen
[19:18] <ZeZu> whatever... switch to lightdm in console, reboot .. lightdm works ... until pc goes to sleep then I have no mouse
[19:18] <EriC^> croraf_: 24 is the latest it seems
[19:19] <ZeZu> I swear every version gets worse :|
[19:21] <croraf_> I think 24 might be prerelease or something. Do you know where is that list that shows which kernel is prerelease?
[19:22] <croraf_> Because the link I gave you shows it at the version 5.3.0-23
[19:22] <croraf_> !info linux-hwe-edge bionic
[19:23] <EriC^> croraf_: i dont think so, the bot uses the standard repos, if you want do a apt-cache show or apt show linux-generic and see where the link is and whatnot
[19:23] <leftyfb> croraf_: what is your issue exactly?
[19:23] <croraf_> I would like to know which is the latest stable kernel version for Eoan
[19:24] <croraf_> !info linux-hwe-edge bionic-updates
[19:24] <leftyfb> croraf_: why do you keep asking for info with bionic packages if you are running eoan?
[19:25] <croraf_> !info linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge bionic
[19:25] <croraf_> hmmmmm, it says 24 is latest here also :OOOOO
[19:25] <leftyfb> croraf_: please stop. What version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:25] <croraf_> Eoan, but I've been suggested to switch to LTS
[19:26] <leftyfb> croraf_: there is no LTS released after Eoan as of yet
[19:26] <leftyfb> croraf_: what does this tell you? cat /etc/issue
[19:26] <croraf_> There is bionic
[19:26] <croraf_> which is latest LTS
[19:26] <leftyfb> croraf_: what does this tell you? cat /etc/issue
[19:26] <EriC^> croraf_: it's normal that the hwe will have the eoan one
[19:26] <croraf_> 19.10
[19:27] <leftyfb> croraf_: ok, that is the latest Ubuntu release. There is no upgrading to anything else
[19:27] <leftyfb> croraf_: ok, now pastebin the output of this: apt-cache policy linux-image-generic
[19:27] <croraf_> But I didnt know that both have v24. The guy was assuring me v23 is the latst one, and that I have the latest one
[19:27] <croraf_> And the package link i provided shows v23
[19:28] <leftyfb> croraf_: pastebin the output of this: apt-cache policy linux-image-generic
[19:29] <croraf_> https://termbin.com/mjef
[19:29] <leftyfb> croraf_: 24 is the latest but you do not yet have it installed
[19:30] <croraf_> leftleg_: Why on the ubuntu packages it doesnt show the 24 but 23
[19:31] <ZeZu> lol
[19:32] <croraf_> OK, v23 is on [bionic] and v24 is on [bionic-updates]
[19:33] <hggdh> croraf_: yes, because -24 is an update to the delivered kernel
[19:33] <leftyfb> croraf_: bionic latest -edge kernel is 24
[19:33] <leftyfb> croraf_: can I ask, why do you care about any of this? What is your exact issue?
[19:34] <croraf_> I want to have the latest stable kernel, and one guy was assuring me that if I have 23 it is the latest.
[19:34] <croraf_> Giving me the link to the packages
[19:34] <leftyfb> correction, bionic latest -edge kernel available from the proposed repo is 24. -updates still has 23
[19:34] <leftyfb> croraf_: just run your normal updates(you haven't) and you will be kept up to date
[19:35] <Volad_Malevich> help, guys. My laptop onboard wifi time to time becomes gray/don't show any networks/has weak signal with router/drops connection with router. How to solve problem. I can even open any site in browser.
[19:36] <croraf_> leftyfb: What does it mean " bionic latest -edge kernel available from the proposed repo is 24. -updates still has 23"?
[19:36] <leftyfb> croraf_: in your case, nothing since you are not running bionic.
[19:36] <croraf_> OK, I plan to switch to bionic, because it is LTS, are you ok now
[19:37] <leftyfb> croraf_: there is no downgrade path to bionic. You will need to reinstall from scratch.
[19:37] <croraf_> So I want to know, if I reinstall to bionic will I have 24 as the stable latest or 23?
[19:38] <leftyfb> croraf_: neither. You will have a 5.0 kernel
[19:38] <leftyfb> croraf_: why do you care so much about what kernel you are running? Do you have some hardware issue?
[19:38] <croraf_> I do
[19:39] <croraf_> If I reinstall 18.04 and change to hwe-edge, which one will I have?
[19:39] <leftyfb> croraf_: ok, what hardware issue? Why do you think changing your kernel will help? Please detail your issues here.
[19:39] <croraf_> I've bought the latest HP Omen on the market.
[19:39] <croraf_> I had big troubles installing Ubuntu. iretia here helped me for 1 day.
[19:40] <croraf_> And I had some luck also, we almost quit, and I alsmost switched to widnows
[19:40] <croraf_> Now I have issues with my microphone and headphoes.
[19:40] <leftyfb> !enter | croraf_
[19:41] <leftyfb> croraf_: to be honest, I doubt verymuch that a kernel change is going to make a difference with your headphones or microphone
[19:41] <croraf_> Also this is the bug that I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1852636, I still have to disable wayland, and boot with "pci=nommconf".
[19:42] <leftyfb> croraf_: regardless, downgrading to Ubuntu 18.04(bionic) from 19.10(eoan) is not going to get you a newer kernel. And if running edge on bionic, it will be the same exact kernel on eoan.
[19:42] <croraf_> OK, can you just answer me the question, which one will be installed as latest if I switch to 18.04
[19:42] <croraf_> v23 or v24?
[19:43] <leftyfb> I already answered that. Neither, it will be a 5.0 kernel, not 5.3.
[19:44] <croraf_> If I switch to 18.04 and to hwe-edge?
[19:44]  * leftyfb sigh
[19:45] <leftyfb> croraf_: again, Running the -edge kernel, which will be <IP_ADDRESS> on bionic (.24 if you enable the proposed repository) will be the SAME EXACT .23 kernel you are currently running(.24 if you just run your normal updates). And again, I do not believe any of these kernels is the solution to your problem.
[19:47] <croraf_> OK. I was just wondering if I switch to 18.04 hwe-edge will I get the same kernel as the one I'm able to get with current 19.10. If true (and it is), I will likely switch to the LTS version, as it is LTS, thus recommended.
[19:48] <leftyfb> croraf_: LTS is recommended, running the -edge kernel is not unless it's required for you to run a piece of hardware.
[19:48] <croraf_> It is required, cause my wifi needs kernel 5.1.
[19:50] <croraf_> v23 is mapped to 5.3.7 mainline, v24 to 5.3.10. 3 patch versions :) so I might get lucky with at least some of my hardware issues :)
[19:52] <leftyfb> croraf_: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/pHfJCtBMY6/
[19:54] <croraf_> What does the link tell me?
[19:55] <leftyfb> croraf_: it tells you on Ubuntu 18.04(Bionic), the latest linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04-edge available from the default repos is <IP_ADDRESS>.92. If you enable the proposed repo, you will update to <IP_ADDRESS>.93
[20:01] <croraf_> Thx leftyfb . Why cannot i find <IP_ADDRESS> for eoan here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/linux-generic?
[20:02] <leftyfb> croraf_: I do not know, nor does it matter in the case of ou getting your hardware working
[20:02] <leftyfb> croraf_: I do not know, nor does it matter in the case of you getting your hardware working
[20:02] <sarnold> leftyfb,croraf_, wrong source package, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta-hwe-edge
[20:03] <leftyfb> sarnold: he's linking to the eoan kernel. Not the hwe from bionic
[20:03] <croraf_> sarnold:
[20:03] <croraf_> dont think the one you linked is good, it doesnt even show eoan in there
[20:05] <leftyfb> croraf_: again, in the grand scheme of things, the links don't matter. We have shown what is the latest and what is available. Regardless of what links are posted here.
[20:06] <KINgGh0sT> I was trying to install mysql-community-server but it failed, now I cannot purge it or try and fix it 'apt-get install -f'. Can anyone help me get rid of this package? Here is the pastebin of my attempted removal, https://pastebin.com/hQ0CxSfM
[20:07] <sarnold> leftyfb,croraf_, ah not an LTS, then https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta
[20:07] <d0tsun7> what happens when you purge it KINGGh0sT
[20:08] <d0tsun7> well i suppose first off, why did it fail
[20:08] <martiansoul> I have a file in the end of which I have the following string - ;return true}service.succeeded=service();
[20:08] <sarnold> d0tsun7: note lines 19 and following
[20:08] <d0tsun7> oh sorry didn't see his pastebin, just jumping into chat.
[20:08] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, no worries thanks for the reply
[20:09] <sarnold> KINgGh0sT: I suggest making a new mysql.service systemd unit file that basically does nothing but run /bin/true
[20:09] <KINgGh0sT> sarnold, out of my league, could you walk me through that?
[20:10] <martiansoul> I have a file - https://pastebin.com/Qdcu7GBv I want to convert it to https://pastebin.com/xknGeBmn using sed. I'm unable to do that.
[20:10] <d0tsun7> you don't have the output of the intial sudo apt-get install mysql-community-server do ya, kinggh0st
[20:10] <martiansoul> Can someone please help.
[20:10] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, let me scroll up and find it if I can
[20:10] <d0tsun7> ok thanks
[20:11] <martiansoul> Hi. it's a little urgent. I can't figure out how sed takes in the endlines and all.
[20:11] <sarnold> KINgGh0sT: sure; try copy-pasting this example here into a file named /etc/systemd/system/mysql.service   https://www.linode.com/docs/quick-answers/linux/start-service-at-boot/   -- then running systemctl daemon-reload; systemctl enable mysql.service   -- then try the removal again
[20:11] <martiansoul> reiterating: I have a file - https://pastebin.com/Qdcu7GBv I want to convert it to https://pastebin.com/xknGeBmn using sed. I'm unable to do that.
[20:12] <sarnold> martiansoul: try this: sed -i  '/^;return true}$/;service.__moduleBase="https://ip/";return true;}' filename
[20:12] <d0tsun7> and how are you trying to do that with sed, maybe pastebin the command so we can see where the syntax error may be
[20:12] <d0tsun7> martiansoul ^^
[20:13] <sarnold> martiansoul: sigh no i'm an idiot, give me another momment
[20:13] <martiansoul> there is no syntax error, it's just that nothing's getting converted.
[20:13] <sarnold> martiansoul: try this: sed -i  '/^;return true}$/;service.__moduleBase="https:\/\/ip\/";return true;}/' filename
[20:14] <martiansoul> @sarnold: it shows sed: 1: "/^;return true}$/;servi ...": invalid command code ;
[20:14] <sarnold> martiansoul: man can I go back to bed? :) I missed the 's'
[20:14] <sarnold> martiansoul: try this: sed -i  's/^;return true}$/;service.__moduleBase="https:\/\/ip\/";return true;}/' filename
[20:15] <martiansoul> sarnold: oh. yeah. sorry. Please just let me check one more time.
[20:15] <KINgGh0sT> sarnold, that gave error of Failed to enable unit: Too many levels of symbolic links
[20:15] <martiansoul> with the desired output.
[20:16] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, no I cannot scroll that far. It's out of the buffer
[20:16] <martiansoul> @sarnold: seems like there's no difference.
[20:16] <sarnold> KINgGh0sT: waaaat.. what's namei -l /etc/systemd/system/mysql.service look like?
[20:16] <leonardus> How do I make this partition encrypted so you have to enter a password to boot it? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WToFUiri/IMG_20191202_151604.jpg
[20:17] <matsaman> leonardus: usually you actually encrypt filesystems, not partitions
[20:17] <matsaman> so that would be after partitioning
[20:17] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st dang ok
[20:18] <matsaman> the Ubuntu installer will ask you at some point if you want encryption of you rentire FS
[20:18] <matsaman> your_entire*
[20:18] <KINgGh0sT> sarnold, https://pastebin.com/nCZ012XA
[20:19] <sarnold> martiansoul: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mw6K4z4zjw/
[20:19] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st run sudo dpkg --configure -a and then try to apt-get purge mysql-community-server
[20:19] <d0tsun7> that will reconfigure the package database and potentially fix your problem.
[20:20] <d0tsun7> let me know
[20:20] <sarnold> KINgGh0sT: man I'm confused :(
[20:20] <martiansoul> @sarnold: Oh. so, my file is actually different. It contains lots of text and then  https://pastebin.com/Qdcu7GBv is in the end of file.
[20:20] <sarnold> KINgGh0sT: d0tsun7's advice sounds like it's worth a shot though :)
[20:21] <martiansoul> sarnold I apologize for not mentioning that before.
[20:21] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, no beuno. https://pastebin.com/g7zJvZGu I think the biggest issue is marianadb is messing with it
[20:21] <leonardus> matsaman: it doesn't give me that option if I choose "install alongside Windows", only if I choose "erase the entire disk" which I don't want to do
[20:21] <KINgGh0sT> sarnold. shoot I cut off a section by accident. https://pastebin.com/xZFWHq6d
[20:22] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st roger that, one moment
[20:22] <sarnold> martiansoul: it doesn't matter what comes before or what comes after, it just changes that one line regardless of where it is in the file, see? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K7McBYFWMR/
[20:22] <matsaman> leonardus: well if the installer doesn't support it, you'll have to do it manually
[20:22] <sarnold> leonardus: oh ugh
[20:22] <KINgGh0sT> This is what I get for installing following a debian guide by accident...
[20:22] <matsaman> leonardus: this is a laptop?
[20:22] <leonardus> No it's a desktop
[20:22] <matsaman> leonardus: oh
[20:22] <matsaman> leonardus: for a desktop, I strongly recommend just buying another drive and putting it inside the tower
[20:23] <martiansoul> sarnold: since it's in the end of the file, that's why maybe it's not changing for me.
[20:23] <matsaman> it's very simple, and will make this problem disappear
[20:23] <matsaman> and many other problems!
[20:23] <matsaman> if you're going to dual boot with Windows, anyway
[20:23] <sarnold> martiansoul: try copy-pasting exactly what I put into 'foo' into a file named foo, running the sed script, and see what happens..
[20:23] <martiansoul> okay.
[20:23] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st have you tried sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-community-server
[20:24] <d0tsun7> both commands working in tandem
[20:24] <matsaman> GNU/Linux requires much less disk space, FWIW
[20:24] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, yeah. didn't work
[20:24] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st sudo apt-get autoremove may do the trick as well potentialy
[20:24] <d0tsun7> sudo apt-get clean
[20:24] <martiansoul> sarnold: works for me too.
[20:25] <d0tsun7> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:25] <d0tsun7> sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:25] <d0tsun7> in that order.
[20:26] <d0tsun7> sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-community-server
[20:26] <d0tsun7> in that order, rather :)
[20:26] <martiansoul> @sarnold: not sure why, but it isn't working for this file - https://pastebin.com/Eiq6PxgC This is my actual file that I want to change. Please note that the string to be replaced is in its end.
[20:27] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st if all else fails, try sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq mysql-community-server and then update your system with sudo apt-get update
[20:27] <_Trullo> what's the best way to transfer files from a windows machine to ubuntu?
[20:28] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, this got a new error... https://pastebin.com/WVddWP71
[20:28] <ioria> martiansoul, you know you can prepend the line number to sed ?
[20:29] <martiansoul> ioria: oh, didn't know that.
[20:29] <ioria> martiansoul, sed -e '<my_line>s/;return true}/;service.__moduleBase="https:\/\/ip\/";return true;}/' my file
[20:30] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st what does systemctl status mysql.service say
[20:30] <martiansoul> @ioria: thanks. it works.
[20:30] <ioria> ok
[20:31] <sarnold> martiansoul: I suspect you need to modify your text editor or similar :) none of your lines begin with ;return true;}  -- http://paste.debian.net/1119107/
[20:32] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, https://pastebin.com/DrKDAtQw
[20:35] <Volad_Malevich> how to increase wifi signal on notebook?
[20:36] <OerHeks> Volad_Malevich, not i guess
[20:37] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: go closer to signal
[20:37] <Volad_Malevich> the same laptop works on Win7 and has a very good signal
[20:37] <matsaman> reduce obstructions
[20:37] <matsaman> get cantenna
[20:37] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: ...in the same position in the building it has?
[20:37] <OerHeks> some wireless drivers are just as is, no help from vendor, bcm is such a trouble chipset
[20:38] <OerHeks> so, windows/max drivers are better supported by the vendor, than our creation without help
[20:38] <OerHeks> intel wireless is pretty good.
[20:40] <Volad_Malevich>  RT3592 Wireless 802.11abgn 2T/2R PCIe [1814:3592]
[20:41] <Volad_Malevich> matsaman on the same table, but different is only OS (Linux/Win7)
[20:42] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: and what driver are you using?
[20:42] <d0tsun7> before we run down that rabbit hole kinggh0st
[20:42] <d0tsun7> does sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq mysql-community-server work for you
[20:43] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, sadly nope. https://pastebin.com/hXeRNBTY
[20:45] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: should probably be using rt2800pci
[20:45] <Volad_Malevich> matsaman Kernel driver in use: rt2800pci
[20:45] <d0tsun7> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq mysql-community-server
[20:45] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st ^^
[20:46] <Volad_Malevich> 24:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3592 Wireless 802.11abgn 2T/2R PCIe [1814:3592]
[20:47] <indoorcat> my firfox browser is loading really slow and my pakage update is gwtting an error
[20:47] <indoorcat> ubuntu 18.04
[20:47] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: can you pastebin your lsmod output somewhere?
[20:48] <Volad_Malevich> matsaman https://termbin.com/h14l
[20:48] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, sorry man... https://pastebin.com/SC6k1KRP
[20:50] <d0tsun7> no worries
[20:50] <d0tsun7> what does sudo service mysql status return
[20:51] <KINgGh0sT> https://pastebin.com/fGGivMnz
[20:51] <d0tsun7> we have to clear this mariadb issue up in order to move past this it appears
[20:52] <d0tsun7> sudo service mariadb status
[20:53] <KINgGh0sT> exact same
[20:53] <d0tsun7> ok
[20:53] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: do you have /proc/config.gz ? could you pastebin the zcat output of that file?
[20:53] <matsaman> it's your kernel config, potentially (if it's there)
[20:54] <d0tsun7> lets see if you have a mysql running already
[20:54] <d0tsun7> service --status-all
[20:55] <Volad_Malevich> matsaman do not have such file
[20:56] <Volad_Malevich> i'm on Linux Mint
[20:56] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, it's not
[20:56] <d0tsun7> k
[20:56] <d0tsun7> what about mariadb
[20:57] <Volad_Malevich> ))) I'll be honest
[20:57] <matsaman> heh
[20:57] <KINgGh0sT> nope
[20:57] <indoorcat> my bowser is bugged
[20:57] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: well, apparently the module rt2800pci has several suboptions that are not individually exposed
[20:57] <indoorcat> or something
[20:57] <indoorcat> this is bullcrap4
[20:57] <indoorcat> browser
[20:57] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: you should probably find out if your kernel was built with the rt35xx support in particular, and you might want to purposefully disable some other options
[20:57] <indoorcat> i think google did it
[20:58] <indoorcat> my chrome browser runs fine
[20:58] <indoorcat> my ubuntu updater is giving errors too
[20:58] <matsaman> Volad_Malevich: there may also be a proprietary driver you can acquire from the ralink website and compile
[20:58] <d0tsun7> ok
[20:58] <d0tsun7> one moment
[20:59] <Volad_Malevich> rt2800pci is universal driver for many adapters
[21:00] <Volad_Malevich> if i could find rt3592 driver and compile it(((
[21:00] <indoorcat> what other options for browsers do i have using ubuntu?
[21:00] <indoorcat> i dont want to use chrome anymore
[21:00] <indoorcat> but i keep going back to it
[21:01] <OerHeks> chromium ( as snap) and firefox, maybe more ..
[21:01] <matsaman> indoorcat: well there's chromium
[21:01] <indoorcat> theres gnome browser witch is crap
[21:01] <indoorcat> firefox
[21:01] <indoorcat> what other options do i have?
[21:01] <matsaman> chromium on GNU/Linux is much better than chrome
[21:01] <OerHeks> stop using that language please, keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[21:01] <matsaman> all the other options will have considerable code/library overlap with what firefox and chromium use
[21:01] <indoorcat> i got all my passwords synched on chrome so its a difficult transition for me
[21:01] <matsaman> all the other popular ones, anyway
[21:02] <matsaman> indoorcat: should be able to do that with chromium also
[21:02] <matsaman> also I'm not a fan of storing passwords, so I'd probably not do that =)
[21:03] <indoorcat> what is the safest way to store passwords?
[21:03] <OerHeks> pen and paper
[21:03] <d0tsun7> probably lastpass
[21:04] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st i would give a system reboot and try to uninstall again really quick dude. your system may be under the impression it has mysql and mariadb going from the failed installation but i'm unsure what happened there since it was out of your buffer.
[21:05] <d0tsun7> it's stating that mariadb is having issues but it's not actually running as a service on your system. reboot and get that cleared out.
[21:05] <indoorcat> i got to reboot, firefox is running slow
[21:05] <KINgGh0sT> Alright. I'll give that a go
[21:05] <d0tsun7> ok
[21:05] <indoorcat> and my package manager is getting an error
[21:05] <indoorcat> when i update
[21:05] <d0tsun7> indoorcat have you tried lastpass
[21:06] <OerHeks> solve that first? pastebin the errors on paste.ubuntu.com
[21:06] <indoorcat> not yet
[21:06] <d0tsun7> lastpass is probably the most popular. 1password and keepass are also very popular, but definitely lastpass is good. that's what i use.
[21:07] <OerHeks> maybe the browser issue is connected to no updates...
[21:07] <indoorcat> you don't synch passwords? firefox and google have the synch option
[21:08] <Volad_Malevich> matsaman at this moment there is no way to get ralink/mediatek driver on manufacturer site
[21:08] <indoorcat> i need another browser
[21:08] <indoorcat> i want to ditch google
[21:08] <d0tsun7> that option definitely works too
[21:08] <OerHeks> fix your update first..
[21:08] <Ben64> indoorcat: chromium?
[21:08] <d0tsun7> firefox is where its at :) just my preference
[21:08] <indoorcat> but i use firefox to have more privacy
[21:08] <matsaman> yeah I prefer Firefox, but they don't make it easy to continue to
[21:08] <OerHeks> so you don't want to fix updates?
[21:09] <matsaman> when I abandon it it won't be for chromium, though
[21:09] <matsaman> but Firefox with a different frontend
[21:09] <indoorcat> i gotta go to work
[21:09] <indoorcat> ill be back to troubleshoot my updates problems
[21:09] <OerHeks> oh, run away for solutions...
[21:09] <matsaman> naw, you could always be a bum
[21:09] <indoorcat> but im having issues with firfox
[21:09] <croraf_> leftyfb: this is the bug that affects me, I hoped it will be solved with this patch. But I'll have to wait for another day it seems
[21:09] <indoorcat> it isnt running smoothly anymore
[21:09] <croraf_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/508522
[21:09] <OerHeks> seen you before ..
[21:10] <croraf_> wait, it's from 2010 :/
[21:10] <Blendphys> Hi all. Share Wifi Internet Over Ethernet does not work in 18.04? 2 PCs, 2 new 18.04 installs, it does simply not work. However, if one PC is still on 16.04, then everything is perfect. Any idea?
[21:11] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, exact same outcome
[21:11] <KINgGh0sT> I am about to reinsall the whole os in a second...losing my mind
[21:18] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st ok real quick, service mysql status and service mariadb status
[21:18] <seere> KINgGh0sT: remove the offending call in the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/. The hard way would be to add an "exit 0" just after the shebang line.
[21:19] <d0tsun7> let me see if i can get you a viable path to go in terms of finding out why mariadb is throwing that error. if not, if this is business related or work related, if you don't have time to continue on this path reinstalling may be an option to clear this up.
[21:19] <d0tsun7> i wish i could see the install error, sometimes losing buffers like that is really unfortunate
[21:20] <seere> d0tsun7: Should be in https://pastebin.com/hQ0CxSfM
[21:21] <d0tsun7> seere it's missing the initial sudo apt-get install mysql-community-server. it has the sudo apt-get install -f as the beginning line
[21:21] <d0tsun7> unfortunately
[21:22] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, both running
[21:22] <seere> d0tsun7: should not matter when trying to remove a non Ubuntu package. The best way I can see is to tweak the .prerm script and remove the 3rd party package.
[21:23] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st both mysql and mariadb are running successfully?
[21:23] <d0tsun7> try to execute mysql in your terminal and see if it works
[21:23] <d0tsun7> mysql -u root -p
[21:23] <d0tsun7> password should be blank or root
[21:23] <KINgGh0sT> well, service isn't working.. I don't know why. so I used ps -a | grep mysql
[21:24] <d0tsun7> ok
[21:24] <KINgGh0sT> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:24]  * seere thinks that wouldn't fix the apt problem?
[21:24] <d0tsun7> seere: you're right but im just trying to see how broken the package is. it seems to be running but not running properly due to whatever happened with the install
[21:25] <seere> d0tsun7: so just let him remove the 3rd party package, clean up and install the Ubuntu one?
[21:26] <KINgGh0sT> That's what I want to do. I want rid of the mysql repository one
[21:29] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st definitely set up an LVM2 partition on your next rig so you can do a sudo lvcreate -L 5GB -n root-snapshot -s ubuntu-vg/root to create a snapshot and then do a lvconvert --merge ubuntu-vg/root-snapshot to restore. so you can always do this before you do things that may potentially be risky and save your butt
[21:29] <d0tsun7> seere: yeah -- seems his system is having a hickup when trying to remove the mysql-community-server package. it says mariadb is throwing an error and won't let the uninstall proceed.
[21:30] <KINgGh0sT> d0tsun7, damn. Didn't ever know that was a thing. Definitely doing that from on
[21:31] <seere> d0tsun7: thatswhy I suggested to hack (or just remove) the failing mysql-community-server.prerm script, remove the package and start over afterwards.
[21:31] <d0tsun7> seere: oh okay that may work yeah. kinggh0st did you feel out that potential fix?
[21:32] <d0tsun7> kinggh0st: totally. it takes a tiny bit of getting used to syntax wise, but it's saved my butt 100%.
[21:32] <seere> d0tsun7: should be the easiest road to try from what I read so far.
[21:33] <KINgGh0sT> seere, can you walk me through it?
[21:35] <seere> KINgGh0sT: there should be a /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.prerm script, right?
[21:36]  * seere is jumping over various Linux/non-Linux-but-UNIX hosts to reach this channel. Sadly none of them is Ubunut currently.
[21:37] <KINgGh0sT> seere, correct
[21:38] <matsaman> seere: you can fix that I'm sure
[21:38] <seere> KINgGh0sT: *I* would just look into what this script is doing and fix the error. But I think thats way beyond your knowledge?
[21:39] <KINgGh0sT> yeah. I hadn't used *nix in a while, so I am very rusty
[21:40] <seere> KINgGh0sT: add a line like "exit 0" just afetr the shebang ("#!.."). Or jsut try to rename it to *.prerm.sorf
[21:41]  * seere thinks he needs a better keyboard...
[21:43] <KINgGh0sT> seere... well that worked
[21:43] <seere> KINgGh0sT: now try to uninstall the package.
[21:43] <KINgGh0sT> It worked
[21:43] <KINgGh0sT> then mariadb installed correctly
[21:44] <seere> KINgGh0sT: high five!
[21:44] <KINgGh0sT> Thank you seere and d0tsun7
[21:44] <KINgGh0sT> you guys are awesome
[21:46] <seere> KINgGh0sT: you're welcome
[21:46] <d0tsun7> so awesome godo job seere
[21:46] <d0tsun7> good job*
[21:51] <seere> d0tsun7: thx, just have some decades of experience to share *g*
[21:53] <d0tsun7> that's awesome. i've only been in the space since 16.04
[21:53] <d0tsun7> really happy i came over to the linux world
[21:54] <d0tsun7> i mean, like really using linux. i've done web development adjustments for LAMP stacks on nix boxes since around 2007, but i never really used nix as a daily driver til 16.04
[21:54] <d0tsun7> a lot more fun than windows, that's for sure
[21:55] <TikityTik> how can i tell what installed a package on my system?
[21:55] <TikityTik> i don't know if i compiled and installed it, used snap, or apt, or what
[21:56] <bprompt> TikityTik:  you can always just run "synaptic" to check, do a quick search there
[21:57] <seere> d0tsun7: I came around during the early SLS and Slackware releases. Yes, that was in the last century ;)
[21:57] <bprompt> TikityTik:  you can also try with -> dpkg -l | grep -i PACKAGENAMEHERE, if the first column on the output is "ii", then is installed
[21:58] <d0tsun7> seere: haha, that's awesome man. respect.
[21:59] <bprompt> seere:   ran win98 and Mandrake7.2, yes it was in 98 =P, ran slackware but mainly from a bootable floppy in CLI
[21:59] <d0tsun7> win98se was my fav
[21:59] <d0tsun7> win 2k was a flop for drivers. continued to run 98se til xp. good os.
[22:00] <bprompt> also ran winXP and SuSE9.2, at some point I was triple-booting with XP SuSE9.2 and RedHat
[22:01] <d0tsun7> i wish i was running linux as a dual boot during those days
[22:02]  * seere thinks it's going offtopic. And my nurse insists I have to go to bed now ;)
[22:02] <matsaman> mandrake, heh
[22:02] <d0tsun7> just a dab of OT seere
[22:03] <d0tsun7> is there an official ot or social ubuntu channel
[22:03] <ducasse> #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:03] <d0tsun7> cool
[22:05] <TikityTik> i installed rust via curl --proto '=https' --tlsv1.2 -sSf https://sh.rustup.rs | sh i think
[22:05] <TikityTik> and i am unable to install it
[22:06] <matsaman> TikityTik: you'll have to download that installer and find out what it writes
[22:06] <matsaman> then reverse it
[22:06] <matsaman> alternatively you could replace your Ubuntu system files utterly
[22:07] <matsaman> and ...
[22:07] <matsaman> there might be a way to ask dpkg/apt about files it doesn't recognize/know about
[22:07] <matsaman> you can do that with some package managers on some distros
[22:07] <matsaman> unknown files are either (1) your own personal files you would recognize, or (2) these types of random installer files, that can be trashed
[22:07] <matsaman> all other files should be recognized by a package manager, ideally
[22:07] <TikityTik> i think i got it now, thanks
[22:08] <bprompt> TikityTik:   why the tracking of the package manager/method anyway? is the package not running? buggy? are you just trying to find some libs from it?
[22:09] <TikityTik> ubuntu doesn't have a package for alacritty and the one from snap is too old
[22:09] <bprompt> matsaman:   mandrake was da bomb!!  got it from a 4CD set, came with repository of stuff, lots of apps :P
[22:10] <bprompt> alacritty...?
[22:11] <adrian_1908> minimalist terminal emulator
[22:11] <bprompt> a terminal emulator?  shoot, there are so many, why bother with a specific one =)
[22:11] <VlanX> Hello... any kind suggestion on how to change the DNS on ubuntu server 18.04 since writing to /etc/resolv.conf is not allowed?
[22:12] <rivaldevyp> bprompt: konsole is a good one
[22:12] <bprompt> TikityTik:   are you just needing any terminal emulator?  I mean, there's xterm, mrvt and others
[22:12] <ryuo> VlanX: you can replace resolv.conf still, but resolved is the official way to handle it now.
[22:12] <bprompt> rivaldevyp:  is what I use =)
[22:12] <adrian_1908> VlanX: edit /etc/systemd/resolved.conf and set `DNS=<IP_ADDRESS>`
[22:12] <rivaldevyp> bprompt: ey, nice
[22:12] <TikityTik> bprompt: using Nord for tmux which has font issues with my default emulator
[22:12] <matsaman> heh
[22:13] <shibboleth> for some reason the verbose boot text, desktop, picture on the screen is "more grey" (dunno how to put it) wheen booting kernel 5.3 vs 4.15
[22:13] <shibboleth> no such issue in 5.0
[22:14] <rivaldevyp> is yaru theme available w/ 18.04?
[22:14] <bprompt> TikityTik:   tried Konsole yet?  I've tried many minimal TTY CLI apps, and Konsole is very well featured, mind you that I'm on Kubuntu and Konsole uses KDE libs, but Konsole is very well featured
[22:14] <shibboleth> in short, my displays look at lot cheaper when booting 5.3 :)
[22:14] <TikityTik> i'll give it a try
[22:15] <rivaldevyp> +1 for konsole
[22:15] <shibboleth> displays connected by displayport, intel skylake graphics
[22:15] <rivaldevyp> very nice on Arch
[22:16] <shibboleth> imagine looking at a cheap-ass LCD vs a decent one at best buy. one has excellent black, the other will be tainted by a grey hue
[22:16] <TikityTik> bprompt: konsole doesn't work either
[22:16] <bprompt> TikityTik:   doesn't work, meaning?
[22:18] <TikityTik> it has font issues with my nord plugin for tmux
[22:19] <VlanX> ryuo, adrian_1908  thank you but unfortunately this doesnt seem to work. With systemd-resolve --status I see another DNS set :(
[22:19] <ryuo> VlanX: did you restart resolved?
[22:19] <adrian_1908> ^
[22:19] <TikityTik> this is what is broken for those other emulators: https://github.com/arcticicestudio/nord-tmux
[22:20] <TikityTik> anyhow thanks for the help, have to go
[22:20] <adrian_1908> TikityTik: It doesn't render the right glyphs (e.g. arrows), or what's the issue?
[22:20] <ryuo> Translation: "Uh oh. Exit, stage left!"
[22:20] <bprompt> TikityTik:   change the font maybe? in Konsole, you can just press ctrl-shift-m to show/hide the top-menu and go to settings, or just right-click on the screen and pick "Edit Profile", go to the [Appearance] tab and choose another font maybe, doesn't seem is the terminal per se, so much as the fonttype in used
[22:20] <ryuo> he already left.
[22:21] <bprompt> just saw it :|
[22:21] <VlanX> ryuo: I've restarted the whole vm
[22:21] <ryuo> VlanX: do you rely on external DNS only?
[22:21] <ryuo> VlanX: ultimately.
[22:21] <ryuo> the main thing resolved offers is caching.
[22:22] <ryuo> something i think nscd provides as well
[22:23] <ryuo> VlanX: i mean, how do you get your DNS settings currently?
[22:23] <ryuo> static?
[22:25] <adrian_1908> VlanX: does your VM have one network interface, or multiple? If the latter, do they all use the wrong DNS?
[22:26] <adrian_1908> I mean, does `systemd-resolve --status` report them as using the wrong one?
[22:33] <VlanX> ryuo: adrian_1908:  the new DNS is another VM in the same network, the current one is the gateway and I remember to have set is with an oneliner command via CLI but I cannot remember it
[22:34] <adrian_1908> VlanX: does systemd-resolved report the wrong DNS in its global and per-interface setting? Maybe you're accidentally overriding the global setting per-interface?
[22:35] <adrian_1908> *resolve
[22:44] <VlanX> adrian_1908: sorry, how do I check the per-interface setting?
[22:44] <VlanX> btw the server only has a single interface
[22:45] <adrian_1908> VlanX: I meant since you said you ran `systemd-resolve --status` where it shows if the interface has a different DNS than the global default.
[22:46] <adrian_1908> VlanX: You can also look in `/etc/netplan/{FILENAME}.conf` if your eth has a nameserver assigned there. That could be overwriting what's in resolved.conf
[22:47] <adrian_1908> If that's not the case, then I'm out of idea. Btw, actual VM or container?
[22:49] <VlanX> adrian_1908: yes, actual VM
[22:50] <adrian_1908> VlanX: and though which technology? Maybe there's a config there that overrides anything DNS related in the guest?
[23:57] <MJ6666> hello!  I am having sound problems (no sound) with a Dreamcast emulator called "Redream".  I just updated from ubuntu 19.04 to 19.10.  The update caused the issue.  It worked fine in ubuntu 19.04.  Anyone have any ideas as to what the problem could be?
[23:59] <matsaman> MJ6666: kernel, pulseaudio, alsa, redream itself
[23:59] <matsaman> any of those and more could've changed in an undesired way
[23:59] <sarnold> MJ6666: fire up pavucontrol while redream is running and see if there's anything interesting there?


[08:11] <alan_g> xnox: did you ever find an example of changing binary package versions? My attempt at the incantation isn't quite working: https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/move-miral-to-mir-no-more-miral-packages/+merge/329993
[10:14] <xnox> alan_g, ah, yes. i'm so sorry totally slipped my plate. Something like: include /usr/share/dpkg/default.mk; override_dh_gencontrol: dh_gencontrol -p libmiral2 -- -v1.5$(DEB_VERSION); dh_gencontrol -> should do it. But let me try it on your branch and provide a usable debdiff.
[10:18] <xnox> alan_g, fixing your code, almost right.
[10:29] <xnox> alan_g, it FTBFS for me =/ but things to change are like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/25483395/
[10:30] <xnox> basically by default dh_* commands act on all packages. If one wants something special to be done, one can call a dh_* -ppackage to do things for a given package specially, and then subsequent naked dh_* call will process all remaining / other packages.
[10:31] <xnox> alan_g, is there some ppa or release i need to build this in? seems to fail to build from source on artful for me.
[10:31] <xnox> and i think we will need to tweak libmiral2's shlibs thing too.
[10:31]  * xnox tries to build in zesty
[10:31] <alan_g> xnox: there shouldn't be
[10:32] <alan_g> Was working for me yesterday (apart from the packaging)
[10:32] <xnox> ack maybe new toolchain in artful-proposed is breaking things.
[10:35] <alan_g> xnox: OK, I'll check latest artful and try your changes
[10:36] <xnox> alan_g, well the zesty build is going further. And I will get to see if these blind changes are right or not =) plus i do think one more thing will be needed to tweak shlibs.
[10:44] <xnox> ah, should have done a no-check build
[11:03] <alan_g> Build on artful seems fine
[11:27] <xnox> alan_g, but my code is still wrong =)
[11:28] <alan_g> xnox: nm, just give me the right code. 8^)
[11:32] <xnox> yeah fixing.
[11:32] <xnox> and triggering a clean rebuild to retest.
[13:52] <alan_g> xnox: no luck?
[14:01] <xnox> alan_g, i think i'm getting as far as you did - it build, but produces the wrong version number.
[14:02] <xnox> but also getting interrupted with other more urgent things.
[14:07] <alan_g> :)


[00:36] <JanC> eh, what happened to the wallpaper plugin in compiz?
[00:37] <JanC> showing the login screen as "wallpaper" is a bit silly...
[06:47] <didrocks> hey Mirv
[06:47] <didrocks> Mirv: the branches that you gave me are building on arm*, right? The FTBFS I'm seeing in the SRU ppa is newer?
[07:22] <Mirv> didrocks: they build, the FTBFS you're seeing in SRU ppa is precise!
[07:22] <Mirv> the quantal SRU packages were basic smoketested on arm hardware
[07:22] <didrocks> Mirv: perfect, all I wanted to confirm, thanks! :)
[07:22] <Mirv> np
[07:33] <didrocks> duflu: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/nux/build-nux4.0/+merge/133864 (as you approved the first one)
[07:34] <duflu> didrocks: Argh. I had no idea nux had a debian/ already
[07:37] <didrocks> duflu: no worry ;)
[07:37] <didrocks> duflu: but even without it, we still needed to update the packaging, even if it was in a separate dir
[07:38] <didrocks> branch*
[07:43] <ricotz> didrocks, good morning
[07:44] <didrocks> hey ricotz :)
[07:44] <ricotz> didrocks, could you reapprove those proposals? https://code.launchpad.net/~ricotz/bamf/replace-user-visible/+merge/131723 https://code.launchpad.net/~ricotz/bamf/g-type-init/+merge/131722
[07:46] <didrocks> ricotz: sure, done and done :)
[07:46] <ricotz> thank you!
[07:46] <didrocks> yw ;)
[07:46] <didrocks> thanks duflu
[07:57] <didrocks> Mirv: hum, I'm taking your dee branch
[07:57] <didrocks> Mirv: take lp:ubuntu/dee but the latest commit
[07:57] <didrocks> Mirv: and it's telling me that it diverged
[07:57] <didrocks> Mirv: can you give it a quick look? I'm building the rest of the stack meanwhile
[08:35] <Mirv> didrocks: hmm
[08:36] <Mirv> didrocks: in raring it's already in, so I based the dee branch which is aimed for quantal only from lp:ubuntu/quantal/dee
[08:38] <didrocks> Mirv: waow, that's weird the branch is at the same revision than the -r -2 lp:ubuntu/dee, but it seems the base are different
[08:39] <didrocks> Mirv: not sure what they did when reboostrapping the raring distro
[08:39] <didrocks> Mirv: but yeah, using the quantal one works, thanks!
[08:40] <Mirv> interesting...
[09:11] <Pandu> hi is there any body to tell me how to install telugu on 12.04 Unity
[09:14] <Pandu> any body?
[09:17] <Pandu> exit
[10:58] <tsdgeos> mhr3: hi, could you go by https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/dee-qt/support_arrays_and_tuples/+merge/133677 and confirm the fix i did for the memory leak is correct?
[10:58] <tsdgeos> mhr3: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aacid/dee-qt/support_arrays_and_tuples/revision/69 to be exact
[10:59] <mhr3> tsdgeos, yep, look good
[10:59] <mhr3> looks*
[10:59] <tsdgeos> thx
[12:27] <didrocks> Mirv: can you look at why unity is FTBFS on the ppa, please?
[12:29] <popey> didrocks, I know Mirv was looking at the arm build failures earlier, not sure on progress yet.
[12:30] <didrocks> popey: even i386 is failing now FYI
[12:30] <didrocks> popey: thanks, Mirv, keep us updated please!
[12:30] <popey> yeah
[12:31] <popey> i note we're doing make -j2 now.. has that always been the case? I thought we always did -j1.
[12:33] <didrocks> popey: the packaging supported it for a while, I force -j4 here
[12:33] <didrocks> popey: where do you see -j2 in the ppa?
[12:34] <didrocks> we clearly do as we have some deprecation warning
[12:34] <didrocks> (and they are not at the end)
[12:34] <didrocks> but not sure where you see this -j2
[12:34] <popey> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/122837679/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-armhf.unity_6.10.0bzr2888pkg0quantal75_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:35] <popey> dh_auto_build: make -j2 returned exit code 2
[12:35] <didrocks> popey: ah, it's -j8 on i386 :)
[12:35] <didrocks> popey: it's detecting the number of available cores
[12:35] <popey> vroom
[12:36] <popey> cunning
[12:36] <didrocks> heh ;)
[12:36] <didrocks> so the issue is due to deprecated symbols in bamf
[12:36] <didrocks> should be quite easy to fix once Trevinho is around
[12:42] <popey> ahhh, thanks
[13:01] <sisa> hi help install ubuntu12 win8
[13:13] <popey> sisa, you probably want #ubuntu for support questions.
[13:15] <Trevinho> didrocks: I'll check it after lunch..
[13:20] <Mirv> ah I was looking at the precise build problems
[13:22] <Mirv> it's the CI working almost as intended, I think :)
[13:22] <Mirv> the last functional unity build was the same as the now failing, and a bamf change now causes a warning in unity build and all warnings are treated as errors
[13:23] <Mirv> Trevinho: you approved the deprecation of bamf_view_user_visible in bamf, would fixing unity to not use it be trivial or should the deprecation be reconsidered?
[13:25] <Mirv> filed bug #1077937 as the first measure
[14:06] <Squarism> Hey. Im on ubuntu 12.04 and in System Settings->Keyboard->Shortcuts i cannot find a settings for "Semi-maximises current window". Anyone know how this can be changes wo installind compiz config?
[14:06] <Squarism> ...a remapping of the Ctrl+Super+left/right shortcut that is
[14:11] <Squarism> ...or where are the raw config files for unity(non 2d) in ubuntu 12.04?
[14:23] <jaaso> Does anyone else still  have problem with building ubuntu unity one 12.10
[14:30] <Squarism> There must be tons of people knowing where config files for unity are located in 12.04
[14:30] <Squarism> ?
[14:31] <didrocks> hey bregma!
[14:31] <didrocks> how are you?
[14:31] <bregma> uh oh, now what?
[14:32] <didrocks> bregma: don't be scared (well, just a little) :)
[14:32] <mhr3> i see didrocks pinging is a general sign of trouble :)
[14:33] <didrocks> bregma: your friday upload of geis broke evince: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1077376
[14:33] <didrocks> bregma: can you get someone from the oif stack looking at it?
[14:33] <bregma> yeah, on my list
[14:34] <didrocks> thanks :)
[14:34] <didrocks> bregma: do you know if it will be fixed today? otherwise, we'll revert geis in the distro (with the paradigm on not breaking things)
[14:34] <bregma> unfortunately, the "someone from the oif stack" only include two people who are working on other things, so....
[14:35] <bregma> I will take a look today, since my name is on the upload
[14:35] <didrocks> bregma: thanks a lot :)
[14:35] <didrocks> Mirv: popey: any news on unity/bamf FTBFS?
[14:37] <bregma> Squarism, config for unity uses gsettings instead of config files
[14:37] <Mirv> didrocks: I haven't been able to look at fixing it myself, so would need to ping more people if Trevinho is not here right now. but filed the bug describing the bamf change causing the problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1077937
[14:40] <Mirv> marked critical now as well
[14:42] <didrocks> thanks Mirv :)
[14:43] <Squarism> bregma, would u know how i could change the shortcuts for Ctrl+Super+(Left/Right) that isnt visible in System Settings->keyboard->Shortcuts ?
[14:43] <Squarism> or a good hint on what to try
[14:55] <mhr3> Mirv, afaik that was a simple rename to bamf_view_is_user_visible
[14:59] <Squarism> is CCSM a big no for 12.04 unity (even if u just wanna change 2 keyboard shortcuts?)
[14:59] <didrocks> fginther: around?
[15:00] <bregma> Squarism, you are free to use CCSM in 12.04, but if you break something you get to keep both halves
[15:00] <Squarism> "big no no"
[15:01] <Squarism> oh ok
[15:01] <Squarism> just bugs me that i can reassign these settings. =/
[15:02] <fginther> didrocks, on the phone
[15:07] <fginther> didrocks, bon jour!
[15:08] <fginther> didrocks, what's up?
[15:08] <didrocks> fginther: my turn to be in a hangout :)
[15:08] <didrocks> fginther: just wanted to know if you need help
[15:08] <didrocks> for the u-l-a script refactoring
[15:08] <didrocks> fginther: just fallback to the "inline packaging" case I would say
[15:09] <fginther> didrocks, Thanks for the offer, I'm testing my fix now and should have the MP re-approved for merging shortly
[15:10] <didrocks> great :)
[15:29] <Squarism> is there no discussion beetween OS developers and App developers? Half the shortcuts in intellij conflicts with Unity
[16:06] <fginther> didrocks, should the auto-merger jobs continue settin DPKG_GENSYMBOLS_CHECK_LEVEL=0? This is a carry over from having a separate packaging branch, do we still need it?
[16:40] <didrocks> fginther: good point, please set it to 4!
[16:40] <didrocks> fginther: this forces the symbols to be updated
[16:40] <didrocks> which is what we want :)
[17:29] <fginther> Trevinho, ping
[17:40] <bregma> anyone wanna review https://code.launchpad.net/~bregma/unity/lp-1077937/+merge/133959 to get unity builds back up and running?
[17:44] <didrocks> bregma: thanks for the patch btw :)
[17:45] <popey> fginther, sil2100 Mirv ^^
[18:39] <Trevinho> fginther: pong
[18:46] <fginther> Trevinho, nevermind, bregma submitted an merge proposal
[18:47] <bregma> does the jenkins builder not pick up the latest dependencies, or do I need to explicitly bump dependencies (for #1077937)?
[18:47] <fginther> bregma, it should have picked up the latest bamf.  I'm looking into the failure
[18:48] <bregma> mkay, some of this stuff appears a little murky from outside
[18:48] <bregma> or maybe even turgid
[18:49] <bregma> I like the word "turgid" I think I will use it more often in every day conversation
[19:19] <fginther> bregma, I re-approved 1077937 after addressing a jenkins/build issue


[02:58] <luis_> Hi, for some reason my grub menu doesn't show the latest kernels I have installed. When I try to run update-grub, it tells me I have to install grub or grub2-common, but when I try to install grub-common, it says this: "grub-common : Depends: liblzma2 (>= 4.999.9beta) but it is not installable"
[02:58] <luis_> any suggestions?