[00:00] <Phothrism> So what ubuntu version has qt over 5.5?
[00:00] <k1l> Phothrism: 16.04 will have it
[00:01] <Phothrism> And there's no way to get it yet?
[00:01] <opt1mal> There's a DNS leak bug in Ubuntu 15.10. Any time one connects to a VPN, the ISP DNS server is still used when only the VPN DNS server should be used.
[00:01] <opt1mal> This is a security vulnerability
[00:01] <k1l> !bug | opt1mal
[00:01] <k1l> please report it there against the ubuntu pacakge and mark it as security bug.
[00:02] <opt1mal> hope this bug doesn't carry on into 16.04 LTS.
[00:02] <mcphail> opt1mal: does that happen even if you pick the DNS servers in the VPN settings dialog?
[00:04] <mcphail> opt1mal: i.e. under the "IPv4 Settings" tab?
[00:05] <popey> mcphail: opt1mal bug 1211110
[00:08] <mcphail> popey: ta. Looks nasty
[00:08] <opt1mal> popey, that might be it.
[00:08] <opt1mal> surprised it would happen again on a newer distro version
[00:10] <e-vent> ubuntu isnt exactly the best at backporting security updates...
[00:12] <k1l> e-vent: what?
[00:13] <e-vent> I do not know how to simplify what I said
[00:14] <e-vent> from debian that is
[00:15] <k1l> you can take a look at ubuntu.com/usn if you wonder. there is a CVE tracker
[00:15] <datumhoard> are there any advantages to upgrade from 14.04 server to 15.10?
[00:15] <k1l> datumhoard: dont do this on a server.
[00:15] <datumhoard> duly noted
[00:16] <e-vent> I can think of at least two occasions where ubuntu either refused to backport a fix or was incredibly slow on business critical software
[00:16] <k1l> datumhoard: on a 15.10 you need to upgrade to 16.04 in the april-july timeframe. stayong on 14.04 you have 2 years to plan that update
[00:16] <e-vent> apache SSL being the first one I remember
[00:17] <starkiller> can somebody help how to install directx in Lubuntu?
[00:17] <k1l> e-vent: i heard those FUD a lot form other distros. but they could not prove it so far.
[00:17] <e-vent> This wasn't FUD
[00:17] <k1l> starkiller: use wine?
[00:17] <e-vent> It was a critical SSL bug a long while back
[00:17] <e-vent> Debian fixed it almost immediately
[00:18] <e-vent> Ubuntu didn't backport the fix for a very long time
[00:18] <k1l> what CVE?
[00:18] <e-vent> there were a lot of pissed off bug reports
[00:18] <e-vent> Honestly, I cannot recall
[00:18] <e-vent> this was long before heartbleed
[00:18] <e-vent> probably 2013 oor 14
[00:18] <popey> heartbleed _was_ 2014
[00:18] <popey> anyway, this is offtopic for #ubuntu
[00:19] <sector_0> hey guys I'm having some problems with steam on linux 14.04LTS, and apparently is has to do with the version of glibc
[00:19] <k1l> e-vent: that is exactly the FUD i heard the last time. and the guy claiming it could not prove it. it was even i showed him it was fixed in the same timeframe like debian did it. since there was no fix fom upstream earlier
[00:19] <sector_0> do you think it's worth upgrading to 15.04LTS?
[00:20] <sector_0> i.e. are there any quirks in 15.04LTS?
[00:20] <mcphail> sector_0: there is no 15.04 LTS. What is the actual problem you are facing?
[00:20] <k1l> sector_0: 15.04 is already dead. 15.10 is the latest supported relese
[00:21] <Bashing-om> sector_0: Rephrase, as release 15.04 is EOL .
[00:21] <e-vent> Might have been FUD but I am fairly sure someone tested it out as still a vuln at least for some time after the debian fix
[00:21] <e-vent> But we are talking a good few years.
[00:23] <HaloSponge> popey, No-one claimed Shellshock either thou. https://www.bountysource.com/issues/4794601-update-vm-with-security-releases-on-any-provision
[00:24] <popey> nobody in Ubuntu uses bountysource that I'm aware of
[00:59] <imrekt> How could I find conflicting packages?
[01:01] <Bashing-om> imrekt: ' apt-cache show <package_nme> ' .
[01:02] <imrekt> Bashing-om: thanks
[01:03] <Bashing-om> imrekt: :)
[01:04] <Barzogh> welcome Pacrale :)
[01:04] <Pacrale> Hello ^^
[01:05] <imrekt> this is for weechat 1.5 dev which is available from a .deb file, which I am using
[01:14] <ozmage> hey ubuntubsd is supported by canonical ?
[01:14] <k1l> ozmage: i dont think so.
[01:14] <k1l> iirc its done from the guys doing the debian bsd think, too
[01:27] <Razzdoll> My system takes a bit to boot, and it has to be some kind of hardware related or something, but then when ubuntu boots, its even longer before it finally gives me access. and I dont know what to look for in the system log.
[01:27] <k1l> Razzdoll: what ubuntu is it?
[01:27] <Razzdoll> 15.10 wily
[01:28] <k1l> use "systemd-analyze time" and "systemd-analyze  blame"
[01:28] <Razzdoll> I just would like to know what errors and how to fix any issues I may have. and I cant even do that right. lol
[01:28] <mish41> has anyone else had issues with right clicking in ubuntu, where it doesn't seem to register them accurately
[01:33] <wafflejock> mish41: you can test input with "xev"
[01:33] <bluefive> Hey guys.
[01:33] <bluefive> We got a new Ubuntu coming out very shortly?
[01:33] <bluefive> I've got a new machine I haven't yet installed an OS on.
[01:34] <wafflejock> mish41: it will open a little window if you click or right click or whatever it will show the event in the terminal you launched xev from, can see if it's something with the application or xinput
[01:34] <wafflejock> bluefive: should be April 24th I think for 16.04
[01:34] <bluefive> Shall I wake a few weeks to get the latest Ubuntu on there or shall I install the current 15.10 and then upgrade?
[01:34] <mish41> wafflejock: i notice that every left click registers with xev, but only some right clicks depending where the pressure is applied
[01:34] <mcadkins> you could at least run in live mode in the interim
[01:34] <wafflejock> bluefive: I would either plan on wiping or wait
[01:34] <skweek> hey can someone help me with my bluetooth ubuntu headset a2dp sync high fidelity playback issue? it connects and doesn't switch automatically from headset head unit hsp hfp to high fidelity playback a2dp sink and trying to swtich it manually doesn't set the audio to high fidelity playback, it only comes over in mono instead of stero. Is anyone around that can?
[01:35] <bluefive> wafflejock: You think it's more stable to wait rather than upgrade?
[01:35] <Razzdoll> BRB
[01:35] <bluefive> You recommend running live off the USB until then?
[01:35] <mcadkins> @bluefive, seems easy enough
[01:35] <wafflejock> bluefive: yeah well that or just install your home partition separate so you can pave the OS and keep whatever files you downloaded or were working on in the interim
[01:35] <mcadkins> you can use the computer, and install when 16.04 rolls out
[01:36] <bluefive> What's wrong with the upgrade? is it imperfect?
[01:36] <k1l> bluefive: install no 16.04 as unexperienced user
[01:36] <wafflejock> bluefive: yeah just less likely to run into issues that can happen with upgrades and no cruft around from old versions
[01:36] <k1l> bluefive: install a 15.10. then upgrade in the april-july timeframe
[01:36] <wafflejock> it's so close
[01:36] <k1l> wafflejock: that doesnt make sense.
[01:36] <bluefive> How come one says upgrade and one says wait?
[01:37] <k1l> updates get automated testings and do work.
[01:37] <mcadkins> Because both are perfectly acceptable options
[01:37] <wafflejock> whatever just personal opinion people config their GPU drivers or whatever and then upgrade and have a black screen, it's not super common but I would just wait it's just my opinion
[01:37] <k1l> a live-system is quite limited.
[01:38] <mcadkins> true, it is limited, but less limited than not using the computer at all
[01:38] <k1l> wafflejock: that is due to people loading stuff from "some website".
[01:38] <wafflejock> well actually I'd install with the idea that I'm going to nuke in a few weeks, probably wouldn't do the live disk
[01:38] <k1l> mcadkins: using 15.10 now is a lot more than limited
[01:38] <mcadkins> although I liked the idea of just setting /home as a separate partition
[01:39] <bluefive> wafflejock: So you'd start all over with 16.04.
[01:40] <bluefive> wafflejock: It's a big upgrade, yes?
[01:40] <k1l> bluefive: installing 15.10 now and updating after april will work
[01:41] <wafflejock> bluefive: I'm not sure between 15.10 and 16.04 just given how close it is to being released it seems worth it to me to start there, from 14.04 I'm on now it's definitely a pretty big upgrade
[01:41] <bluefive> Which DE of 16.04 are you recommending?
[01:42] <bluefive> I used 15.10 of Ubuntu MATE and it crashed on me only once time in a month of heavy usage.
[01:42] <k1l> bluefive: the one you like the most
[01:43] <wafflejock> bluefive: think that one is really up to personal preference, I wasn't a huge fan of Unity so went with Kubuntu for a while but have landed on Ubuntu Gnome now for a while, they all have their pluses and minuses IMO
[01:43] <bluefive> What do you think of that one?
[01:43] <skweek> hey can someone help me with my bluetooth ubuntu headset a2dp sync high fidelity playback issue? it connects and doesn't switch automatically from headset head unit hsp hfp to high fidelity playback a2dp sink and trying to swtich it manually doesn't set the audio to high fidelity playback, it only comes over in mono instead of stero. Is anyone around that can?
[01:43] <wafflejock> MATE seems cool from my little experience with it on Raspbian but it is still pretty early days I think for that particular batch of work (know he/they just got some of the window effects like shadows working)
[01:44] <bluefive> He made initially for his wife so it's definitely a labor of love.
[01:44] <bluefive> He made it initially*
[01:46] <LiENUS> so uh when i type "gedit" into the unity search thing in ubuntu i get search results for "genital modificaiton and mutilation" under the reference section
[01:46] <LiENUS> with pictures
[01:46] <LiENUS> why?
[01:46] <cfhowlett> LiENUS, known bug.  a fix in progress.
[01:46] <k1l> LiENUS: old joke is old.
[01:46] <LiENUS> k1l, old joke?
[01:47] <LiENUS> im not joking i had that shit happen at work today
[01:47] <LiENUS> with someone behind me
[01:47] <wafflejock> LiENUS: you might want to disable some of the scopes in the search
[01:47] <LiENUS> wafflejock, where?
[01:47] <cfhowlett><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:47] <LiENUS> thanks cfhowlett
[01:47] <cfhowlett> hope it helps
[01:48] <LiENUS> at the very least when i end up in sensitivity training i can show hr that bug report
[01:48] <cfhowlett> small favor indeed
[01:48] <k1l> yeah. i know it trended on reddit or somewhere else on news sites and suddenly we have several users here at work using gedit with  someone behind them or using gedit in meetings.
[01:48] <ekkis> evening everyone.  I'm failing to install vmware-tools on 14.04 LTS - has anyone had success with this?
[01:48] <wafflejock> LiENUS: should be in the bottom right I'm pretty sure so you can turn off various providers in the dash (believe it's in the Filter Results list)
[01:49] <wafflejock> er maybe top right not using Unity anymore and forget, but it's in the Dash itself when you hit the superkey to search
[01:49] <LiENUS> k1l, didnt see it on reddit
[01:49] <LiENUS> i learned about it when i quickly closed out of the unity search because dr eddlestone was talking to me about her day today
[01:49] <LiENUS> wafflejock, i feel like maybe i shouldnt be using unity anymore either heh
[01:50] <wafflejock> LiENUS: eh if you disable the scopes that's not an issue, the buttons on the left thing and hidden menus stuff sort of drove me mad though... couldn't deal with change :)
[01:50] <cfhowlett> LiENUS, actually might have an easy workaround
[01:50] <cfhowlett> install an alternate desktop environment.  you lose the unity functionality though
[01:50] <ekkis> or is there a better place to ask?
[01:51] <LiENUS> so it looks like reference is the only one i need to worry about is that right?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> !info vmware-tools trusty
[01:52] <ekkis> Bashing-om: there's no package but the vendor provides the software
[01:52] <ekkis> it's open source
[01:52] <ekkis> and I've seen my issue out there but for older kernels
[01:54] <Bashing-om> ekkis: Not supported here in this channel, but give the error you are getting and someone might have a suggestion .
[01:55] <ekkis> Bashing-om: ok.  thanks.  I see there's a #vmware channel so I'm sure it's supported there :)
[01:56] <Bashing-om> ekkis: Great . Good luck .
[01:56] <ekkis> here's the error message I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/M2ZzVf7d
[01:57] <deadlock> Hello all. How can I add touchscreen driver to blacklist? I'm disabling the touchscreen with a file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, but I want to remove the driver or add it to the blacklist.
[02:00] <Bashing-om> ekkis: look'n .
[02:05] <Bashing-om> ekkis: Nope, not me, as I have no idea of what would call ‘d_alias’ .
[02:05] <ekkis> I think I found a patch
[02:05] <ekkis> for the precise issue I have
[02:05] <ekkis> I'm new to ubuntu.  thanks for the help
[02:06] <lhr> o.o
[02:14] <lhr> is anyone here?
[02:16] <Bashing-om> lhr: A better question to ask with your time ?
[02:17] <cfhowlett> lhr, pro-tip: to get an answer to your technical question, you have to first ASK the question.  We fired Ms. Cleo.
[02:36] <nik-pc> hello guys i am little curious that what is difference when i compile my script with sh and bash !please help me i will appreciate your response
[02:45] <the_count> Hello... I think I have some problems after upgrading the Kernel... May have not fully upgraded or something... I'm booted into 4.2.0-30-generic, I'm not sure what the latest was..
[02:45] <cfhowlett> the_count, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[02:48] <the_count> cfhowlett: That looks like it might do the trick
[02:49] <cfhowlett> the_count, the test is to reboot and you should go into your latest kernel
[03:07] <linocisco> hi all
[03:07] <linocisco> i m using thunderbird on 14.04
[03:07] <linocisco> i want to know how to make font larger when I compose or write email
[03:14] <HaloSponge> Anyone up, still ?
[03:14] <phil42> what line do i put in /etc/modules to get usb serial and usb ethernet?
[03:32] <cch> Hi!
[03:36] <Greylocks> linocisco, I would suggest that you try the Thunderbird help for that issue.
[03:37] <Greylocks> How Thunderbird works is hardly a Ubuntu support issue. ;-)
[03:46] <hnordt> hello
[03:46] <hnordt>  nodemon server | webpack -d --watch any idea on how to display both logs on console?
[03:50] <elisa87> hey can you please look at my question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/748819/could-not-connect-connection-refused
[03:53] <HackSmash> are you allowing http connections to localhost ?
[03:55] <elisa87> HackSmash: so it was working before today but just happened to be like so
[04:20] <kjhan> t
[04:39] <xilus> xilus
[04:39] <xilus> #join gamesure
[04:48] <branau> I can't seem to get the unity webapp desktop notifications to work for anything, in firefox, chrome, and chromium. Is this still a thing or did it get discontinued?
[05:02] <martialfarts> hi, I have /dev/sda with a broken gpt. and /dev/mmcblok0 that is too small.
[05:03] <martialfarts> I want to add the size of /dev/sda to /dev/mmcblk0 . what should I do?
[05:15] <Guest93560> how can i mac like theme in ubuntu?
[05:15] <somsip> Guest93560: maybe http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/macbuntu-1404-pack-is-released.html
[05:18] <Guest93560> i have already replace my default DE from unity to Xfec... is it possible to install in Xfec DE?
[05:18] <somsip> Guest93560: have you read it?
[05:20] <Guest93560> okey ... let me try... thanks for your suggestion @somsip
[05:52] <C0r3> Hey guys.
[05:53] <C0r3> I was doing apt-get dist-upgrade and it downloaded the files and was setting up and then I screwed up my pressing Ctrl+C (unintentionally). Will that be a problem if I reboot the pc now?
[06:00] <MACscr> i have a home server that is now headless. how can i find out what desktop environment it has on it and remove any of that type of stuff that i no longer need?
[06:12] <Anthony-L> is you ubuntu the best for live OS?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> Anthony-L: you joined an ubuntu channel, we recommend ubuntu
[06:13] <Anthony-L> lotuspsychje, i had a feeling you were going to say that. :/
[06:14] <Anthony-L> lotuspsychje, i've tried ubuntu on live OS and it's really slow.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Anthony-L: the usb is the bottleneck, not ubuntu
[06:14] <Anthony-L> lotuspsychje, agreed
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> Anthony-L: if you want a fast Os, install it physical
[06:15] <Anthony-L> lotuspsychje, physically to the USB? because i tried that and it was even slower.
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> Anthony-L: no, to your harddisk
[06:18] <Anthony-L> yea
[06:40] <Anthony-L> how do you defrag ubuntu?
[06:40] <ubuntu240> hi
[06:43] <baizon> Anthony-L: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1090/why-is-defragmentation-unnecessary
[06:44] <xiodem> helo
[06:44] <ubuntu240> what is best way for installing libreoffice 5.1 on ubuntu 14.4?you know im worry about system crash by updating from ppa.
[06:46] <baizon> ubuntu240: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[06:46] <ubuntu240> did you test this ppa?
[06:47] <baizon> ubuntu240: no, im using 16.04 so i dont really have to
[06:54] <topi`> I'm stuck with ubuntu 14.04 LTS ... is there any way to get a newer Python than 3.4.0? Problem is: RuntimeError: aiohttp requires Python 3.4.1+
[06:54] <somsip> topi`: try the deadsnakes PPA
[06:54] <topi`> somsip: OK, will google
[06:54] <somsip> !ppa | topi` (search here)
[06:54] <topi`> so, after installing from PPA, are the normal system dependencies then satisfied?
[06:55] <topi`> I don't want a system that ends up in a state where apt-get no longer works
[06:55] <somsip> topi`: deadsnakes allows multiple versions IIRC, or use a virtualenv. #python can advise better on that
[06:55] <topi`> yeah
[06:56] <topi`> for virtualenvs, I can compile python myself as well, but I just wanted to find a quick and easy system-wide way
[06:57] <somsip> topi`: IIRC, after install you've change /usr/bin/python3 to symlink to the new package, or maybe in /etc/alternatives. Deadsnakes seems reliable and has good info out there so you should be able to second-source a solution
[06:59] <topi`> yeah
[06:59] <topi`> sounds good
[07:09] <rossanoua> hi all!
[07:09] <rossanoua> anybody can told me how can i use some client for using irc
[07:09] <rossanoua> not web
[07:11] <test2> hey. do all ip cameras stream their content (videos, pictures) to a custom website in their local lan?
[07:12] <baizon> test2: this is a channel about ubuntu, we dont have such infos here
[07:13] <test2> baizon: yeah, i know.. do you know another channel more suited for that purpose on freenode?
[07:13] <somsip> !alis | test2
[07:13] <baizon> rossanoua: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:19] <fallenmerc> wt is this place?
[07:19] <fallenmerc> anyone?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> fallenmerc: you have joined an ubuntu support channel
[07:20] <baizon> fallenmerc: topic?
[07:20] <fallenmerc> oo
[07:20] <fallenmerc> i thought of darkweb sort of thing
[07:20] <fallenmerc> new to ubuntu
[07:20] <fallenmerc> but i like it
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> fallenmerc: you can use this channel only for ubuntu support questions
[07:21] <fallenmerc> i have a ques
[07:21] <fallenmerc> do i have to dl all packages again if i reinstall it?
[07:21] <fallenmerc> i mean ubuntu
[07:21] <fallenmerc> if i reinstall ubuntu
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> fallenmerc: there are tools to make life easier, like aptoncd
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> fallenmerc: but its also recommended to get latest updates from packages after a clean install
[07:23] <fallenmerc> that was helpful
[07:24] <fallenmerc> lotuspsychje
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> fallenmerc: the way i do it, is sudo apt-get install rar vlc chromium-browser..etc all in one line, pretty fast
[07:26] <fallenmerc> thanks
[07:26] <fallenmerc> data plans are costly here :(
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> fallenmerc: even with data plan, always keep your system up to date right..if its a laptop do your updates in a public wifi?
[07:30] <fallenmerc> thats easy
[07:30] <fallenmerc> i'll try it
[07:31] <fallenmerc> how to tag you the WAY you are doing it?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> fallenmerc: what do you mean?
[07:31] <fallenmerc> lotuspsychje: is it the correct method?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> fallenmerc: keeping your system always up to date is the right method, the way you connect internet is a users choice right
[07:35] <simonlinj> lotuspsychje: he meant, how do you tag a user on irc channel
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> ah right
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !tab | fallenmerc
[07:42] <pezet91> hello, I have encoded H264 stream from video grabber, but I can't restream this with avconv/ffmpeg. Maybe I can't set parameters to avconv/ffmpeg. Anyone can help me with this?
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> pezet91: maybe the #ffmpeg guys know more of this?
[07:57] <AndChat39444> Hello all
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Emperor_Earth_: Did you get my link to the dd'able and UEFI bootable Ubuntu 14.04 mini.iso I created? ( http://<IP_ADDRESS>/tmp/ubuntu_14.04_minimal_uefi_bios_hybrid.iso )
[08:08] <mia> Hell oall
[08:08] <mia> I mean hello all
[08:09] <mia> I just installed ubuntu to my main workstation withm ultiple gpu's, one 980ti and one 780ti
[08:09] <mia> but when I do nvidia-smi -L it just displays 980ti
[08:09] <mia> How can I make it see all gpus
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> mia: sudo lshw -C video , show anything usefull?
[08:14] <mia> checking lotuspsychje
[08:14] <mia> lotuspsychje, yes it shows everything
[08:15] <mia> both 780ti and 980ti
[08:26] <mohammad> hello
[08:28] <Guest24442> i am using atom i get permission denied when i want to save my edited file to /var/www/html/laravel/App/Http/route.php what should i do?
[08:28] <gso> I am using gnome shell - how do I disable the ALT+F1 shortcut that opens up activities?
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> gso: maybe the #ubuntu-gnome guys might know that one
[08:31] <nullzero> i had stuck ubuntu stuck at 800x600 resolution how can i fix it?
[08:31] <mia> lotuspsychje, what shoul I do now? I did what you said and it displays both of my gpus
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> mia: you never asked an issue?
[08:32] <fallenmerc> lotuspsychje, i get it
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> nullzero: which ubuntu version? whats the native resolution of your screen?
[08:47] <stych> i am have audio issues
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> !sound | stych
[08:56] <CaptainDickJerk> oh... i think my face is offtopic, better go to off topic channel
[08:56] <stych> did that
[08:57] <molavy> hi
[08:57] <molavy> i found ubuntu touch don't support farsi(persian) keyboard
[08:58] <molavy> how can i help them to add persian keyboard to ubuntu touch
[08:58] <molavy> i can develop in python, php , java languages
[08:59] <somsip> !touch | molavy
[08:59] <molavy> somsip: thanks
[08:59] <xangua> ! Touch | molavy
[09:06] <carpediembaby> Hello, I want to backup my computer to an external usb drive and was wondering what it the best way to do it. Ideally, i would want it to be incremental. And ideally, i would want to keep a backup of a dual-boot disk (ubuntu + windows 10)
[09:06] <somsip> !info rdiff-backup | carpediembaby (maybe)
[09:06] <carpediembaby> I looked at the default backup utility in ubuntu and it doesn't seem to image the entire disk. Plus, it has horrible reviews so best not to use it.
[09:06] <baizon> carpediembaby: http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/
[09:07] <carpediembaby> baizon: I am not very inclined to use déjà-dup after reading the few reviews on ubuntu website https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/deja-dup/
[09:09] <baizon> carpediembaby: http://backintime.le-web.org/
[09:09] <carpediembaby> somsip: rdiff is a folder to folder backup. I want to be able to restore to a new disk in case of a crash
[09:10] <popey> carpediembaby: clonezilla
[09:10] <mcphail> carpediembaby: there are 1001 ways to run a backup. Most of the best ones use rsync at the core, and backup readable files rather than some horrible proprietary format. The best way to back up your windows partition is not so clear. If you "/msg ubottu backup" you'll get some suggestions from the bot. If you would rather clone your disk run "/msg ubottu cloning"
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> yeah clone the whole uefi dualboot would be good idea
[09:12] <nemesit|znc> hi guys anyone know of a way to get the correct keyboard layout in Ubuntu?
[09:12] <somsip> carpediembaby: you mount the disk and access it like that
[09:12] <nemesit|znc> seems like after all these years apple keyboards with UK international are not supported
[09:12] <somsip> carpediembaby: ah - you want an imaging backup? fair enough
[09:13] <nemesit|znc> e.g. the ones with ± in the upper left and # on shift 3
[09:21] <arcsky> hey guys. ssh keys to my linux cluster. what about if i do ssh to the floating address. can i use the the same ssh keys ? or do i need to create one per box?
[09:23] <somsip> arcsky: are you talking about you sshing into a linux box?
[09:24] <mrtAkdeniz> Hey there!
[09:25] <arcsky> ssh keys without password
[09:25] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys I've a silly problem: Whenever I install an application, it is not showing on ubuntu dash until reboot system... Using Ubuntu 15.10 x64 with Unity. Restarting unity also causes problems, force me restart computer
[09:25] <mcphail> arcsky: if you add your public key to all the boxes you want to log in to, you'll be able to use the same private key for each one
[09:26] <somsip> arcsky: you put your public key on the server. The keypair identifies you, not the server
[09:26] <mcphail> arcsky: you might find your client complains that the fingerprint of the server has changed, if the device behind the IP address changes. This is a security feature, and can be switched off
[09:27] <llutz> arcsky: just set "CheckHostIP no" in your ssh-config
[09:28] <llutz> arcsky: keep in mind, this might be a security issue
[09:29] <xgwang_> hi
[09:29] <xgwang_> is anyone online?
[09:29] <popey> xgwang_: always
[09:29] <cfhowlett> xgwang_, ask your ubuntu questions
[09:30] <xgwang_> sorry, just install the ubuntu mate, and find this app.
[09:30] <cfhowlett> chit-chat in #ubuntu-offtopic xgwang_ .  or come here for help.  also ...
[09:31] <cfhowlett> !kylin
[09:31] <xgwang_> ok. got you. thanks
[09:31] <cfhowlett> happy2help! and welcome to *buntu
[09:36] <nemesit|znc> does no one know of a solution to this keyboard layout problem?^^
[09:37] <hateball> nemesit|znc: if there's no official layout that works ootb, you can use xmodmap to remap as you like
[09:39] <nemesit|znc> hm just wondered whether there really is no official one, like if its so easy why did no one contribute it?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> nemesit|znc, ask the !mac team
[09:40] <cfhowlett> !mac
[09:40] <popey> nemesit|znc: I never got the right layout on my mac either
[09:40] <nemesit|znc> cfhowlett: ah there's a team for that?^^
[09:40] <popey> nemesit|znc: it's a known bug that was never fixed
[09:41] <nemesit|znc> popey: I really thought thats the basic for a usable system
[09:41] <cfhowlett> nemesit|znc, indeed.  also an ubuntu forum channel
[09:41] <popey> nemesit|znc: cfhowlett I don't think the "Mac Team" exists anymore
[09:41] <nemesit|znc> hm
[09:41] <cfhowlett> popey, no!! really?
[09:41] <nemesit|znc> thought linus himself used an air
[09:41] <popey> He may use it with a US layout
[09:42] <popey> UK International Mac layout is different and has always been the problematic one
[09:42] <nemesit|znc> popey: but all the people he might have inspired xD
[09:42] <nemesit|znc> popey: bought it by accident xD
[09:43] <Cablegunmaster> People are the biggest problems of creating bugs on any application / Operating system ;)
[09:43] <nemesit|znc> yep
[09:43] <Cablegunmaster> Remove the people, no problems :D
[09:43] <Cablegunmaster> wait something is wrong with that logic .... can't point my finger to it ;)
[09:46] <nemesit|znc> I remember all other keyboard layouts like german to be a mess too
[09:46] <popey> I think i filed a bug for this some years ago
[09:46] <nemesit|znc> guess US is the only way to go
[09:47] <popey> bug 630203
[09:48] <popey> looks like there's a workaround nemesit|znc
[09:48] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/214786/comments/73
[09:48] <Marcells> Greetings, I would like to have one question related to installing Ubuntu from a USB stick to a Dell Desktop PC with Windows 10. When
[09:49] <Marcells> When I boot from usb stick and try out the Ubuntu it doesn't reach the hard-drive of the PC to find enough storage for the installation, only want to use the space of the USB
[09:50] <Marcells> Does somebody had the same experiance ?
[09:52] <nemesit|znc> hm
[09:52] <popey> Marcells: what's the goal?
[09:53] <yossarianuk> With the release of the latest Nvidia driver - 364.12, which has support for Vulkan/Mir/Wayland - should Plymouth now work ?
[09:53] <yossarianuk> Looks like its working on Arch btw - > https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4bfxip/plymouth_now_works_with_proprietary_nvidia/
[09:54] <popey> yossarianuk: good news!
[09:54] <yossarianuk> Also is anyone aware if that version will be in 16.04 ? (if not i'd say Ubuntu 16.04 out the box will not be good for gaming due to lack of vulkan support)
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> yossarianuk: join #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[09:55] <yossarianuk> ok will do - cheers
[09:55] <Marcells> When I try out the Ubuntu without installing, it offers to install it fully. This is what I want, to install properly. But, when the installation wizard pops up it can't detect the built in SDD to install on the right place, but only see the USB stick as an only option
[09:55] <yossarianuk> btw that driver can be used on 15.10 too.
[09:56] <squid-jacquard>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER squid-jacquard usonjfecukwh
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Marcells
[09:59] <grc> flash plugin is not downloading by software manage!!!
[09:59] <Marcells> Will try out, thanks!
[10:00] <EriC^^> Marcells: it doesn't see the disk at all or doesn't show the partitions?
[10:03] <Marcells> EriC^^ doesn't see the the disk et al (can't go further because the USB is 2Gb and the Ubuntu requires at least 7 Gb)
[10:03] <EriC^^> Marcells: are you in the live session right now?
[10:04] <Marcells> Eric^^ yes
[10:04] <bdeluca> hello any one know about smbnetfs
[10:04] <bdeluca> and how to mount a fileserver that is not on the domain with it
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> grc: adobe flash is pretty dead on linux, use alternatives as html5,chromium-browser with pepperflash, webbrowser-app or firefox with freshplayer
[10:05] <grc> lotuspsychje:mean i have to install freshplayer addon on firefox??
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> grc: if you want regular flash support on firefox yes
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> !info browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash | grc
[10:28] <EriC^^> Marcells: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:33] <phablet> test
[10:33] <gourav777> i am unable to listen music on http://www.saavn.com using firefox on ubuntu
[10:34] <cfhowlett> works for me.  try a different browser, gourav777
[10:34] <popey> works here too
[10:35] <gourav777> cfhowlett: but why not mozilla firefox???
[10:35] <Marcells> EriC^^ done
[10:35] <cfhowlett> gourav777, no way to know at this point.  try a different browswer to trouble shoot
[10:35] <EriC^^> Marcells: link?
[10:35] <codemagician> Why do the AWS AMI-IDs on the cloud locator page (https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/) differ to those offered within the AWS control panel?
[10:36] <gourav777> cfhowlett : ok
[10:36] <popey> gourav777: it uses flash
[10:36] <Marcells> http://termbin.com/rq6u
[10:36] <gourav777> popey: yes
[10:36] <popey> gourav777: so you may need to jump through some hoops to make flash work in firefox
[10:37] <gourav777> popey: step??
[10:37] <Marcells> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/rq6u
[10:37] <EriC^^> brb
[10:37] <popey> gourav777: what version of ubuntu you running?
[10:38]  * popey realises he's still listening to hindi bollywood tracks :)
[10:38] <gourav777> popey: 14.04 lts
[10:38] <popey> gourav777: same here...
[10:38] <EriC^^> Marcells: type dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:38] <cfhowlett> popey, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras???
[10:39] <popey> i have adobe-flashplugin installed
[10:39] <popey> (the package)
[10:39] <gourav777> popey: how to run it on firefox?
[10:39] <popey> install adobe-flashplugin from the canonical partner archive
[10:40] <akhilesh> hi
[10:41] <akhilesh> I need to find out the "serial number" of my monitor, how do I do it?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> akhilesh, turn it 180% and read the label on the back
[10:41] <popey> s/%/°/
[10:42] <akhilesh> There is no label on the back :(
[10:42] <Marcells> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/uhxx
[10:43] <popey> akhilesh: if you're lucky then get-edid might do it
[10:43] <popey> akhilesh: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81370/how-to-create-extract-the-edid-for-from-a-monitor
[10:45] <akhilesh> popey, it gives a lot of info, but serial NO isn't one of them. So I assume there is no other way?
[10:45] <popey> akhilesh: I don't know of any other way. What's the goal of getting the serial number? Why do you need that, out of interest?
[10:46] <popey> and when you say "serial number" do you mean "model number"?
[10:46] <EriC^^> Marcells: maybe there's a setting in the bios you can change for the hdd like ahci
[10:47] <akhilesh> My monitor has an issue, so I need to get it repaired, the people from benq want the serial number popey. I actually went out and found it on a sticker on the cardboard box(thankfully did not throw it out). But I wanted to know what I could do if I had thrown away that box.
[10:47] <Marcells> Eric^^ how should I do that in UEFI?
[10:48] <popey> akhilesh: maybe try using ddcprobe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/34467/how-to-get-serial-number-of-my-monitor
[10:49] <akhilesh> first thing I tried popey but the package is no longer in the repos.
[10:49] <EriC^^> Marcells: depends on your laptop, usually you can press esc to get an options menu for the bios
[10:49] <EriC^^> Marcells: try pressing esc or F-something right after you reboot the pc
[10:49] <popey> akhilesh: I don't know then (also, benq are cheap and almost certainly don't support these things anyway)
[10:49] <gourav777> thanks now our mozzilla can play www.saavn.com   :)
[10:50] <popey> \o/ gourav777 enjoy!
[10:52] <tis> hello
[10:52] <Marcells> EriC^^ okey, there (its Dell OptiPlex 7040 so it has UEFI as I see)
[10:53] <laptop> ddd
[10:53] <EriC^^> Marcells: ok, go to settings or so, look for something related to hdd settings, ahci
[10:54] <Marcells> EriC^^ SATA Operation / Disabled -or- ACHI -or- RAID On --- latter is chosen currently
[10:56] <EriC^^> raid on?
[10:56] <EriC^^> Marcells: try turning it off
[10:56] <EriC^^> try choosing ahci
[10:57] <Marcells> EriC^^ Choosing AHCI
[10:57] <EriC^^> ok
[10:57] <Marcells> EriC^^ Should I modify something in UEFI?
[11:00] <EriC^^> Marcells: no
[11:03] <Marcells> EriC^^ what should I do next?
[11:04] <EriC^^> Marcells: try rebooting
[11:05] <Marcells> With Ubuntu live?
[11:05] <Marcells> EriC^^ With Ubuntu live?
[11:06] <EriC^^> Marcells: yeah
[11:09] <impi> hello
[11:09] <impi> anyone having flash player libfontconfig dependency hell?
[11:09] <Marcells> EriC^^ seems it works, however I would have few questions more, brb in 30 mins, thank you for the support so far
[11:13] <EriC^^> Marcells: ok, no problem
[11:19] <pavlushka> How can I replace a specific line of a text file with another line using cli commands, not opening the file????
[11:20] <k1l> pavlushka: use "sed"
[11:20] <EriC^^> pavlushka: sed
[11:21] <pavlushka> thanks, K1l, EriC^^
[11:21] <hateball> There's also awk, if one is so inclined
[11:25] <zbbix> I have a newly created dedicated server with 2x2TB drives in RAID. I noticed that the machine is really slow when trying to type unknown commands, for example if I type xit, it takes a few seconds to respond and tell me that there's no such command. Also there's a constant load of about 1.00 even though the server is completely empty and not running anything other than the core linux processes. I noticed that iotop shows ext4lazyinit
[11:26] <zbbix> will this ext4lazyinit eventually end and reduce the disk usage? Or will this always be like this?
[11:26] <pavlushka> k1l, can I specify the line number for the line to be replaced with 'sed'???
[11:27] <BlackDalek> Anyone here know anything about using Kodi in Ubuntu? I am having trouble getting Anime Fate add-on to work...
[11:27] <NickCao> anyone here
[11:28] <cfhowlett> NickCao, as always, just ask your ubuntu question
[11:29] <NickCao> may not so related with ubuntu
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !ot | NickCao then see the OT channel please
[11:29] <NickCao> Ok
[11:32] <k1l> zbbix: the lazyinit will stop after its done with his work
[11:32] <hannes3> if i use https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/usb-creator-gtk/ to make me a ubuntu usb stick and tell it store "documents and settings", what does that actually mean? will it save updates and new programs i install as well?
[11:32] <hannes3> or just my home?
[11:32] <k1l> pavlushka: you can tell him what to exchange exactly with sed
[11:34] <pavlushka> k1l, got it, thanks
[11:36] <k1l> pavlushka: not tested: "sed -i 'Ns/.*/newline/' /path/to/file"  N is the linennumber
[11:37] <pavlushka> k1l, you rock. gonna try it.
[11:45] <Marcells> EriC^^ back, so I would like to ask is it has benefits if I keep the Windows OS beside Ubuntu? I don't plan to use it anyway the WinOS
[11:46] <EriC^^> Marcells: sure
[11:46] <EriC^^> lots of programs only work in windows etc.
[11:46] <EriC^^> best of both worlds
[11:47] <ag62> hey
[11:47] <Marcells> okey then I keep it
[11:47] <hateball> What would the point be to keep it if you dont plan to use it
[11:47] <Marcells> EriC^^ is it possible to reach and work with the files under Ubuntu which are stored in e.g. Win documents?
[11:47] <ag62> can anyone please tell me how to connect ircd-hybrid with xchat?
[11:48] <ag62> can anyone please tell me how to connect ircd-hybrid with xchat?
[11:48] <EriC^^> Marcells: yeah
[11:49] <Marcells> okey, and it also doesn't effect on the performance if I want to do some modelling
[11:49] <EriC^^> Marcells: you can click on the windows filesystem in the filemanager in ubuntu and it'll mount under /media/<user>/...
[11:49] <EriC^^> no
[11:49] <Marcells> EriC^^ good, thank you
[11:49] <EriC^^> sure
[11:50] <ag62> i have a project where i have to install and configure ircd server... i have downloaded xchat and ircd-hybrid.. how do i connect them? please help :)
[11:50] <cfhowlett> ag62, xchat is abandonware.  use hexchat
[11:51] <cfhowlett> https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html
[11:53] <julius> hi
[11:54] <ag62> cfhowlett^^ what do you mean by abandonware?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html  read
[11:54] <julius> the latst ubuntu 15 is using 4.2 as kernel and is unable to recognie the network card in a lenovo t560. is there somewhere a pre packed kernel for ubuntu that enables latest hardware?
[11:55] <l4m8d4> hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 15.10 on an older computer. It has 3 ssds in it: 2 SSDS for ubuntu (btrfs raid) and 1 SSD for windows 7. From ubuntu, I wanted to install grub onto the windows 7 SSD, because the MB would only boot from the windows drive when it was connected. But ubuntu strangely doesn't recognize the windows SSD.... When I boot from an arch live system though, it recognizes the SSD just
[11:55] <l4m8d4> fine! Am I maybe missing some drivers or something? I mean, kernel 4.2 is pretty old, maybe it needs a newer one? The problematic SSD is a samsung SSD 850 PRO, if it helps
[11:55] <ag62> cfhowlett^^ thank you so much
[11:56] <julius> l4m8d4, its not a kernel problem. every 3.x+ kernel can handle sata just fine
[11:56] <l4m8d4> julius: They are all SATA SSDs though.. what could be the problem then?
[11:57] <julius> the chipset from the board would be interresting, google if that got support in recent kernels
[11:57] <k1l> l4m8d4: can you show a "sudo parted -l" in a pastebin?
[11:57] <julius> and the ssd does not show up in the file explorer? (nautilus)?
[11:58] <l4m8d4> julius, k1l: I am booted into arch linux right now - how do I paste on pastebin without a GUI, though?
[11:59] <EriC^^> l4m8d4: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:59] <hannes3> :)
[11:59] <l4m8d4> julius: The SSD won't show up on lhsw and fdisk -l under ubuntu
[12:00] <Marcells> EriC^^ after the installation, should I change back the AHCI to the default one in the UEFI?
[12:01] <EriC^^> Marcells: no
[12:01] <l4m8d4> EriC^^, k1l, julius: Here it is: http://termbin.com/fgjm
[12:01] <jean1> j
[12:01] <l4m8d4> This is under arch, where it recognizes fine
[12:03] <k1l> l4m8d4: hmm, only issue i could think of is that its shown as /dev/nve* but this is not the case
[12:03] <l4m8d4> The 2 sandisk ultras are the ubuntu drives, the samsung is the problematic one (under ubuntu at least) and the sandisk ultra fit is the USB-stick I'm running arch off
[12:03] <k1l> l4m8d4: can you boot into ubuntu?
[12:04] <l4m8d4> Yes, but if I shouldn't disconnect the windows drive before, I'll have to do it through the arch bootloader
[12:04] <l4m8d4> My thinking is, maybe it can only detect such drives during bootup? Because last time I connected it afterwards
[12:05] <k1l> l4m8d4: that doesnt make sense
[12:06] <l4m8d4> k1l: What do you mean?
[12:07] <k1l> l4m8d4: it doesnt make sense, that its not seeing the samsung ssd on startup
[12:07] <k1l> l4m8d4: so it might be some mainboard issue
[12:09] <l4m8d4> Ok, so , huh, strange, now it detects the drive! The difference is, before I connected the drive AFTER bootup, where it seemingly didn't bother to autodetect it - now I connected it BEFORE and booted through the arch bootloader, and it detects!
[12:09] <k1l_> i suspect the bios/uefi seeing the 2 rad disks and not watching for the samsung anymore.
[12:10] <l4m8d4> But shouldn't the OS watch for newly attached disks?
[12:10] <l4m8d4> Because I've done that before on debian and it worked, so it might as well be ubuntu specific in this case
[12:10] <k1l_> l4m8d4: you are mixing several different levels here
[12:11] <k1l_> there is the mainboard booloader (bios/efi), the the bootloaders from the OS (grub for ubuntu), then there is the kernel which supports hotswap (if the mainboard and device can be hotswaped)
[12:13] <l4m8d4> k1l_: ok, so do you mean then, that maybe the mainboard doesn't support sata hotswap and therefore, the kernel can't do it either?
[12:13] <k1l_> maybe. but i am not sure what the real issue there is
[12:14] <k1l_> what bootloader does arch use, is it grub, too?
[12:14] <ikonia> the hardware has to swap hotswap hardware
[12:14] <ikonia> you can't do that with just software
[12:14] <k1l_> yes, the kernel can do this since some time now. but hotswapping is not the issue if the disk is not seen on boot
[12:15] <k1l_> except the cables weren set properly :)
[12:15] <ikonia> hot swap has been in the kernel since 2.6
[12:15] <ikonia> maybe even 2.4
[12:15] <julius> l4m8d4, you disconnected the driver before booting and its not a usb drive?
[12:15] <l4m8d4> k1l_: well, in my case, the disk was seen on boot
[12:15] <ikonia> only got good at 2.6 when udev came in
[12:15] <ikonia> win 12
[12:15] <l4m8d4> julius: In the beginning, I connected the sata drive after booting
[12:15] <l4m8d4> then it had problems
[12:15] <julius> good idea
[12:16] <julius> but is connected via sata or via usd?
[12:16] <julius> usb
[12:16] <l4m8d4> julius: Well I just expected it to work because I did it a few times on linux before on different machines and it always worked
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> wasnt btfrs experimental, maybe the samsung ssd doesnt get recognized by this?
[12:16] <k1l_> l4m8d4: ok. so can we get rid of the "i disconnect disks"?  what happens when you boot all disks and boot ubuntu?
[12:16] <ikonia> the file system does not dictate the device being seen
[12:16] <l4m8d4> julius: the drive was connected through SATA to the mainboard
[12:16] <julius> l4m8d4, well...i would never use a drive that way if it wasnt specifically made for hotswap
[12:16] <ikonia> it would still see the device, just not the file system
[12:17] <ikonia> the drive is not the problem for hot swap
[12:17] <ikonia> the controller needs to be hotswap aware
[12:17] <l4m8d4> julius: Well, SATA specification contains hotswap
[12:17] <julius> l4m8d4, dont do it
[12:17] <ikonia> yes, but not all controllers support it
[12:17] <NotYouTu> UEFI is pissing me off, anyone here have a good understanding of it that might be able to help me?
[12:17] <julius> ikonia is right, thats where manufactors can dig into your pocket once more
[12:18] <l4m8d4> julius, ikonia: Well, let's just say then that it's the controller's fault, ok? ;)
[12:18] <julius> ive got a encrypted lvm that was created by a debian install, inside that lvm there a 100gb partition free for ubuntu....but how do i encrypt the partition for the ubuntu installer?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | NotYouTu
[12:19] <NotYouTu> lotuspsychje, yes, I've read that and spent the last month googling trying to figure it out for myself
[12:19] <ikonia> julius: inside lvm there is a partition free ?? what
[12:19] <Marcells> EriC^^ cannot start the Windows OP only the Ubuntu. Any idea?
[12:19] <julius> a logical volume i meant
[12:19] <ikonia> julius: then it's already encypted
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> NotYouTu: maybe if you explain whats going on? whats your end goal?
[12:20] <TomyLobo> hi
[12:20] <EriC^^> Marcells: what error do you get?
[12:20] <EriC^^> Marcells: might be cause you have ahci enabled
[12:20] <Marcells> EriC^^ Do I have to change back?
[12:20] <TomyLobo> is there a headless jdk for ubuntu 14.04 yet?
[12:20] <EriC^^> Marcells: is there another setting you have?
[12:20] <julius> ikonia, the ubuntu installer sees: /dev/sda5 which is the partition containing the lvm, it got a size: but used is unknown. so i need to make it readable by ubuntu
[12:21] <ikonia> julius: you can't do that
[12:21] <TomyLobo> i.e. one that doesn't drag in half a desktop?
[12:21] <Marcells> EriC^^ SATA Operation / Disabled -or- ACHI -or- RAID On --- latter is chosen currently
[12:21] <NotYouTu> lotuspsychje, to keep it simple, I want things the way I've had them for years.  A small lubuntu install on the laptop, and a separate Ubuntu install (that's fully encrypted) that has /boot on USB.  With USB in it should boot to Ubuntu, without USB it should boot straight to Lubuntu
[12:21] <julius> ikonia, ah shit
[12:21] <EriC^^> Marcells: try disabled then
[12:21] <ikonia> julius: you'd need to import the volume group for ubuntu to be aware of the volume group
[12:21] <ikonia> julius: please don't swear, there is no need for it
[12:21] <julius> sorry
[12:21] <julius> ok, import was vgchange -ay    iirc
[12:21] <NotYouTu> lotuspsychje, I had the encrypted Ubuntu install working correctly (that took a while), once I installed lubuntu... USB key no longer works
[12:21] <julius> but then will ubuntu ask me for a password?
[12:21] <ikonia> julius: thats just activating it
[12:22] <ikonia> julius: no,
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> NotYouTu: why exactly you want to dualboot 2 ubuntu's?
[12:23] <NotYouTu> lotuspsychje, this is my travel laptop, I don't actually use the first install, it's there for things like going through security and they want to see it work or inspect it
[12:23] <NotYouTu> lotuspsychje, I've used a setup like this for years, but now with UEFI I cannot get it to work
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> NotYouTu: you could install ubuntu and lubuntu-desktop and switch from login?
[12:23] <NotYouTu> lotuspsychje, no, that's not what I want
[12:24] <l4m8d4> julius, ikonia EriC^^ : BTW, thanks for your help
[12:24] <NotYouTu> lotuspsychje, I don't want the Ubuntu install to even be an option without the USB drive
[12:24] <julius> any idea what the root password is for the 15.10 live install? i would like to run "vgchange -ay"
[12:25] <julius> im looking at the installer, not the livecd running or something
[12:25] <k1l_> its no password set, or its ubuntu. but you should use sudo anyway
[12:25] <julius> so sudo is really not a option
[12:26] <julius> ah, setting it manually works
[12:30] <TomyLobo> ok looks like the program i wanted to install (jenkins) will be able to use a headless JRE instead
[12:35] <julius> ikonia, did you say that its impossible to install ubuntu to a already existing ecrypted lvm?
[12:37] <komakurt> do anyone know a page where i can put my outputs and send the link. i doesn't want to paste the logs here. guess its to much text ^^
[12:37] <NotYouTu> so, no UEFI guru's?
[12:38] <ouroumov_> komakurt, paste.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <bucky1232> i can't seem to find anything, I probably just dont know the right terms to search or maybe its not possible.. but is there a way to create a persistent ssh connection but work with local shell and intermittently execute a cmd on the remote shell via an alias like 'remoteshell ls'.
[12:42] <bucky1232> so i dont have to keep reconnecting or switching screens
[12:42] <MelRay> Hi everyone I have a new situation that I have never encountered in my quest to master Ubuntu. I have updates but get a message that /boot is out of space. I have looked and removed some of the older associated files like initrd, abi-<version>, etc. What I would like to learn is the command I need to run to have grub update so it knows those items are no longer there?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> bucky1232: maybe the #openssh guys might know more of this
[12:43] <bucky1232> good call, thanks Ill try there
[12:43] <TomyLobo> gee, now i'm dragging the whole caboodle in again by installing wine
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> MelRay: clean your system with bleachbit, free up some space
[12:43] <k1l_> MelRay: can you please run a "df -h" and show the output in paste.ubuntu.com
[12:43] <TomyLobo> i dont suppose there's a headless wine?
[12:44] <bucky1232> although somewhat less optimistic since someone wasn't like 'yeah.. thats called xyz RTFM'
[12:44] <k1l_> TomyLobo: no
[12:44] <MelRay> k1l: I will but I know boot is now at 45% full..
[12:45] <k1l_> MelRay: just grabbing some basics to get an overview
[12:45] <omfe> Hello! I am using lubuntu 16.04 beta1 and need unison-2.40.x and not 2.48.x, which is included in 16.04. How can i install 2.40.x? Which source can I use?
[12:45] <k1l_> MelRay: next things are "ls -alh /boot" . after that a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" to let apt install the updates it stopped because of the full disk
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> omfe: join #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 please
[12:46] <MelRay> k1l: Here is the pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471807/
[12:46] <omfe> Thanks! I will do it! over!
[12:46] <TomyLobo> well i hope i can at least run console apps on it without a display server
[12:46] <MelRay> k1l: Awesome thank you for your help!
[12:47] <k1l_> TomyLobo: are your sure there are no linux console apps for the same task?
[12:48] <MelRay> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471815/
[12:48] <k1l_> MelRay: ok. now run the update with the apt commands again.
[12:49] <k1l_> MelRay: after that we need to look out for the old kernel packages you now removed the file. but the packages are still marked as installed
[12:51] <MelRay> k1l: Ok I had unmet dependencies see my pastebin... I presume this is due to the packages still being marked as installed?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471827/
[12:52] <k1l_> MelRay: did you run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"?
[12:52] <MelRay> k1l: Yes that was where I got the unmet dependencies message
[12:52] <k1l_> please show the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:54] <MelRay> k1l: Ok ran it again and got the same thing... just a second
[12:55] <MelRay> kil: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471856/
[12:57] <k1l_> MelRay: ok, that looks ok. some people have the -updates and the -security disabled and get that error.
[12:57] <k1l_> MelRay: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[12:57] <MelRay> k1l: You beat me to it :-) Was going to ask that...
[13:01] <gnu-ce> I am a bit confused to use 64-bit or 32-bit distro on my netbook. I have an Intel Atom N2600 + 2 GB RAM. What is your suggestion?
[13:01] <MelRay> k1l: Ok the command did the force install...should I reboot?
[13:02] <k1l_> MelRay: no, wiat.
[13:02] <k1l_> MelRay: please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[13:02] <MelRay> k1l: K
[13:03] <k1l_> gnu-ce: its 64bit cpu. so use 64bit os
[13:03] <gnu-ce> k1l_: thanks
[13:03] <MelRay> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471901/
[13:04] <gnu-ce> k1l_: is not important chipset or bios?
[13:05] <k1l_> MelRay: sudo apt purge linux-image-4.2.0-16-generic linux-image-4.2.0-18-generic linux-image-4.2.0-22-generic
[13:05] <k1l_> gnu-ce: no, the cpu
[13:05] <gnu-ce> thanks again.
[13:07] <MelRay> k1l: Completed command
[13:08] <k1l_> MelRay: please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers"
[13:09] <MelRay> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15471928/
[13:11] <k1l_> MelRay: remove those old packages from the kernels that are even not isntalled anymore
[13:11] <MelRay> k1l: Ok I use the purge command like you showed me?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:11] <k1l_> MelRay: yes
[13:12] <MelRay> k1l: Ok..
[13:17] <MelRay> k1l: Got it done
[13:18] <newbsduser> hello, what is specific disadvantage of disabling swap space on a huge system. I have 256G memory on the system. I configure swapiness to 3. but system is swapping sometimes although I have available memory on the system. So I'm thinking  turning off swap with swapoff -a, or do you have another suggestion?
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> newbsduser: you on an ssd also?
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> !swap | newbsduser
[13:19] <baizon> newbsduser: there are some apps that use swap, even if no needed, so a small swap partition is recommended
[13:19] <popey> newbsduser: under some circumstances having zero swap is a bad idea
[13:19] <hateball> newbsduser: I'm on a 16GB system, no swap, no issues. But it depends on apps also
[13:20] <popey> e.g. with zero swap, under some circumstances the swap daemon can go into 100% cpu utilisation making the system unusable as it looks for swap space
[13:20] <hateball> There's the option of using zram
[13:20] <popey> newbsduser: IMO should always have a small amount (I have 1GB swap on my 16GB laptop)
[13:21] <phil42> newbsduser, it's kind of a break-even.    there is a small overhead to using swap but there are advantages
[13:21] <julius> popey, i go for 5gb with 16gb ram
[13:22] <yossarianuk> i'd recommend reducing swappiness to at least 10
[13:22] <yossarianuk> or 1 if using ssd
[13:25] <phil42> i intentionally push thing out to swap.  there's no need for them to be in memory if they are not going to be used
[13:25] <phil42> things
[13:28] <touchpad> hi guys
[13:29] <phil42> ola
[13:29] <touchpad> i have a little problem over here ;)
[13:29] <touchpad> i updated my kernel to 3.19.0-56-generic, and now my synaptics driver won't work :(
[13:30] <phil42> custom module?
[13:30] <Fluub> Hello I have a sound problem with my games (dota, minecraft) I do have sound with my mp3 and browser but not with games.
[13:30] <touchpad> what do you mean by that?
[13:30] <lopes> vale
[13:31] <Fluub> I updated pavucontrol but it did not fix it. If you could redirect me toward helps I would be very thankful.
[13:31] <phil42> some kernel modules are not compiled with the kernel, they are compiled separately.  when you upgrade the kernel you have to recompile the module.   not saying this is the problem,  just checking
[13:31] <Guest21386> hola dorne
[13:31] <Guest21386> hola drone
[13:32] <phil42> check the output of the dmesg program
[13:32] <cfhowlett> Guest21386, english please
[13:33] <Fiequae> hi, i have a slogan and want to see it in all fonts i have installed so i can compare the fonts and see which i like most for the slogan, is there an app that lists all fonst with a custom text in that font?
[13:34] <touchpad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15472025/
[13:34] <phil42> good idea Fiequae
[13:34] <Fluub> All fonts ? How many ?
[13:34] <am_> which program for creation ubuntu restore point is best solution?
[13:35] <am_> Systemback or maybe something else?
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> !backup | am_
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> am_: the recoverymode can also fix your system
[13:36] <Fiequae> Fluub: well probably a few hundred fonts... i just want to scroll through and have the same text all fonts or something like that
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> Fiequae: think you more need a logo designer online for that
[13:37] <Fluub> Do you have the font files Fiequae ?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Fiequae, font-manager will do it
[13:37] <Fiequae> well there is https://www.google.com/fonts i'll use that if there is no native app for that
[13:37] <touchpad> phil42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15472025/
[13:37] <Fiequae> cfhowlett: where do i input the text?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> Fiequae, fire it up, should be pretty intuitive
[13:38] <Fiequae> no, it's totally confusing
[13:38] <am_> lotuspsychje, hm there is no Systemback app in the list)
[13:38] <Fiequae> where is the text input field?
[13:38] <Fiequae> i'm not kidding, i cannot find it
[13:39] <am_> but i can see another variants
[13:39] <Pici> Fiequae: fontmatrix might be good
[13:39] <touchpad> EriC^^: eriiiiic :D
[13:39] <Fiequae> Pici: i'll try that
[13:42] <PHOTO_OP> Hello all
[13:43] <PHOTO_OP> I am trying to use grep to locate all of the files in the /etc directory that contain the string eth0, Does anyone know the code to put into terminal
[13:43] <hetii> Hi
[13:44] <touchpad> smelling information engineering homework here :DD
[13:44] <hetii> Is is possible to have persistent live system over PXE ?
[13:44] <hetii> for eg by using NBD or NFS ?
[13:44] <peridot> PHOTO_OP: man grep
[13:44] <phil42> touchpad, i see a few things that are unfamiliar to me,  i don't see anything specific
[13:45] <PHOTO_OP> what would be the code to enter?
[13:45] <hetii> I try already with NFS by create on root fs a casper-rw loop file but it seams that is ingored by ubuntu
[13:45] <PHOTO_OP> and thank you btw
[13:45] <touchpad> phil42: is there a way to restore the system before the update
[13:46] <peridot> PHOTO_OP: try "man grep"
[13:46] <minimec> PHOTO_OP: grep -R "eth0" /etc --> see: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-search-find-file-for-text-string/
[13:46] <PHOTO_OP> ty mini
[13:48] <phil42> touchpad, probably.    do you see a list when you boot up?
[13:48] <crazyhorse18> one of my computers has locked itself at 100mb instead 1000mb on the ethernet card
[13:48] <crazyhorse18> any idea why it would do that?
[13:48] <PHOTO_OP> ty all
[13:49] <popey> crazyhorse18: dodgy cable?
[13:49] <PHOTO_OP> man grep then what after that.. Sorry I am really new to this
[13:49] <crazyhorse18> popey: oh it could be the cable?   yeah i suppose i could swap it out
[13:51] <crazyhorse18> popey: hahahaha
[13:51] <crazyhorse18> that was it!
[13:51] <crazyhorse18> never thought that.. i thought it was software
[13:51] <popey> crazyhorse18: WOOOOT!
[13:52] <crazyhorse18> files were going to take 38 minutes to copy.. now 2 minutes
[13:52] <k12> fsr my mother cannot connect to our wifi. I tried nmcli and that didn't work... any ideas? I don't think wifi is blocked though.
[13:53] <popey> crazyhorse18: lucky guess ㋛
[13:55] <Diablo1> hi
[13:55] <k12> Network settings say she's connected to our wifi...
[13:55] <k12> so I dunno what's going on.
[13:55] <k12> :(
[13:56] <Diablo1> anywhone plays agar
[13:56] <Titan_king> Hey, I am having a weird problem, All my downloads are stuck at 60kbps download speeds :-(
[13:57] <Titan_king> Although I have a good INTERNET connection
[13:57] <k12> Nvm figured it out.
[14:01] <stc> Titan_king: What application are you using to download the files ?
[14:02] <Titan_king> its the same everywhere from updates in terminal to dwnloads in firefox
[14:02] <phil42> reached your cap?
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> Titan_king: you sure your isp doesnt limit you?
[14:02] <Titan_king> nope
[14:03] <Titan_king> everything is fine in my phone
[14:03] <stc> Thibaut120094: Also using WiFi on your phone ?
[14:03] <Titan_king> yeah
[14:03] <stc> Titan_king: Hmm
[14:03] <Titan_king> Even switching off wifi there does not help
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> Titan_king: ubuntu version and wifi chipset?
[14:04] <Titan_king> ubutu 15 with realtek 8723be
[14:05] <Thibaut120094> stc: yes :P
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> Titan_king: you might try another firmware for realtek perhaps
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | Titan_king
[14:05] <Titan_king> how do I do that lotuspsychje ?
[14:05] <stc> Thibaut120094: Hehe, oops. ;)
[14:06] <C0r3> Hey guys, I've installed Ubuntu GNOME in my other pc now it is unable to connect to the wireless network. How can I fix that?
[14:06] <gallo_mobile> hi I'm having issues with port forwarding.
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> gallo_mobile: try the #netfilter or ##networking guys
[14:06] <gallo_mobile> i set the ports in my router but app in ubuntu still show "port is closed"
[14:06] <gallo_mobile> thanks
[14:06] <TJ-> Titan_king: have you checked for errors/retry counts on the wifi interface?  Have you checked the current bit-rate on the Wifi link itself? Use "iwconfig"
[14:07] <Titan_king> TJ-, How do I check for errors
[14:07] <TJ-> Titan_king: in a terminal run "iwconfig". Look at the "invalid" or "retries" values
[14:07] <TJ-> Titan_king: they should be close to zero (0)
[14:07] <Titan_king> nope.. everything is fine
[14:08] <TJ-> Titan_king: and the bit-rate should be high (54 Mbp/s or higher)
[14:08] <Titan_king> TJ-, Invalid misc:6
[14:08] <Titan_king> TJ-, except everything is as you said
[14:09] <TJ-> Titan_king: that's acceptable. How about the Link Quality ?
[14:09] <Titan_king>  TJ-  70/70
[14:09] <TJ-> Titan_king: Good. so you can move on to analysing other possibilities
[14:09] <TJ-> Titan_king: next; do you control the Wifi router the PC is connected to - is it your home router for example?
[14:10] <Titan_king> TJ-, Yes, It is in my house beside me
[14:10] <pearce> hello?
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> pearce: yes?
[14:11] <pearce> thanks for your answer
[14:11] <TJ-> Titan_king: good - that means there's unlikely to be some router-set traffic limitations
[14:11] <pearce> now i want to do something about my computer
[14:11] <Titan_king> TJ-, yes
[14:11] <TJ-> Titan_king: ok; install a diagnostic tool that can monitor all connections. "sudo apt-get install iftop"
[14:12] <Titan_king> TJ-, installed
[14:12] <TJ-> Titan_king: then, in a terminal do "sudo iftop -i <interface-name>" e.g. "sudo iftop -i wlan0"
[14:13] <pearce> for example,i want to do make a map on ubuntu
[14:13] <TJ-> Titan_king: then use a browser or something to hit several large external HTTP services at the same time, maybe try to start multiple downloads and then check what iftop reports as the total throughput of the Rx side
[14:13] <pearce> and the map for the android..
[14:13] <Titan_king> TJ-, one sec...
[14:13] <TJ-> Titan_king: if each download seems limited to 60Kbp/s that would indicate some per-connection traffic shaping
[14:14] <pearce> sorry for distub..
[14:14] <TJ-> Titan_king: if the overall interface is limited to that, it suggests a connection throttle, either on the PC or the Wifi link (assuming your 'phone is currently not experiencing the same issue on the same network)
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> !details | pearce
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> pearce: a map of what?
[14:15] <Titan_king> TJ-, started downloading
[14:15] <pearce> ok thanks ,just for my hometown like the googlemap
[14:15] <Titan_king> TJ-, What am I supposed to look For
[14:15] <TJ-> Titan_king: watch the Rx bitrates look for signs of the limiting you reported
[14:16] <TJ-> Titan_king: if you've got multiple downloads going then either the entire connection Rx will look limited, or each connection Rx will look limited
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> pearce: find your home on google maps and make an ubuntu screenshot of it
[14:17] <pearce> yeah,thank you very much
[14:17] <TJ-> Titan_king: in the per-connection lists, the Rx is the <= lines
[14:17] <Titan_king> TJ-, bitrates are on the right side right? it shows 505kb
[14:18] <TJ-> Titan_king: yes, bottom-right is the interface rates
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[14:19] <Titan_king> TJ-, Download speeds of 2 downloads(Which I Started) sum up to be around 60 kbps
[14:20] <TJ-> Titan_king: ok, so 505Kb/s ~= 50MB/s
[14:20] <TJ-> Titan_king: 60 Kb/s ~= 7MB/s
[14:21] <plasmoduck> Is there some program like Apples's "Disk Utility"  to manage disks?
[14:22] <genii> gparted
[14:22] <Titan_king> TJ-, I dont understand
[14:22] <TJ-> Titan_king: check "iwconfig" again now; have the retry/invalid counts increased at all/much?
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> plasmoduck  is disk utility a partitioner?
[14:23] <plasmoduck> Yes
[14:23] <plasmoduck> Also shows disk usage info
[14:23] <Titan_king> TJ-, All the download rates add  to be around 60
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> plasmoduck  ok, then gparted, as genii suggested
[14:23] <TJ-> Titan_king: if the overall is 505Kb/s on the wifi link are you able to connect the PC by wire to the router and do the test again - if you get the same number then the problem is on the router/ISP side, not your PC
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: but that would not explain why he gets full speed on phone
[14:24] <pbx> plasmoduck, also look at "Disks" app, it does partitioning and some disk health checks a la Disk Utility
[14:25] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: maybe but we don't have evidence for that as yet. Best to elliminate variables from what we have control of, first
[14:25] <Titan_king> TJ-, only invalid misc changed
[14:25] <TJ-> Titan_king: did it change by much?
[14:25] <Titan_king> TJ-, grew from 6 to 14
[14:26] <TJ-> Titan_king: that suggests there may be some light interference on the frequency, but for comparison here's mine from an interface that has been running a few days: "Tx excessive retries:6061  Invalid misc:2582   Missed beacon:0"
[14:26] <TJ-> Titan_king: so I wouldn't worry about 14 :)
[14:26] <Titan_king> TJ-, yes :-)
[14:26] <TJ-> Titan_king: my RX side is "Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0"
[14:27] <Titan_king> TJ-, Same here
[14:27] <TJ-> Titan_king: so, like I say, you need to compare against a wired connection to the same PC to try to reduce the problem area
[14:27] <d1rewolf> all, I'm running 15.10  on a Lenovo Thinkstation. Just about every morning, I come in to a frozen system. Screens won't wake up, won't respond to pings, etc. Two questions: (1) journalctl --until=today shows nothing...it seems that when I reboot the system, the journal database is cleared. Any way to access old logs? and (2) any ideas what might cause this and how to troubleshoot?
[14:27] <Titan_king> TJ-, Wired is absolutely fine
[14:27] <slavka`> hey all... i am trying to visudo to uncomment includedir /etc/sudoers.d but but getting >> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 30 <<<
[14:27] <slavka`> if anyone could help would be appreciated
[14:27] <TJ-> Titan_king: if the wired connection shows the same limitations you've a router/ISP issue; if not, you can confidently focus on the wifi on the PC
[14:28] <rud0lf> hello
[14:28] <bracketslash> hello
[14:28] <Titan_king> TJ-, Wired recives full speed
[14:28] <TJ-> Titan_king: OK, what throughput does wired see?
[14:28] <bracketslash> rud0lf, olleh
[14:28] <Titan_king> TJ-, What does a throughput mean?
[14:28] <TJ-> Titan_king: and also, what is the wifi bit-rate reported by "iwconfig" so we know the kind of max throughput to expect?
[14:29] <Titan_king> TJ-, how do I check that?
[14:29] <TJ-> Titan_king: bandwidth, bit-rate. E.g. 1000 Mega-bit/second
[14:29] <TJ-> Titan_king: "iwconfig" and tell us the bit-rate
[14:29] <slavka`> any ideas guys?
[14:29] <Titan_king> TJ-,  Bit Rate=150 Mb/s
[14:29] <TJ-> Titan_king: I see here "Bit Rate=144.4 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm"
[14:30] <rud0lf> i have ubuntu + windows vista dual boot configuration, can i put a password on windows vista option?
[14:30] <Titan_king> TJ-, Bit Rate=150 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[14:30] <rud0lf> or temporary disable it from linux?
[14:30] <TJ-> Titan_king: ok, so it's connected on 802.11n
[14:30] <Titan_king> TJ-, Yes
[14:30] <TJ-> Titan_king: so now you can focus on the interface itself
[14:31] <Titan_king> TJ-, Just so you know, I have updated the realtek drivers
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> slavka`  obviously, we need to know what's on line 30 of visudo
[14:31] <Titan_king> TJ-, From git repo "lwfinger/rtlwifi_new"
[14:32] <TJ-> Titan_king: OK. what is the interface name, is it wlan0 ?
[14:32] <Titan_king> TJ-, wlp1s0
[14:33] <TJ-> Titan_king: what does this report:  " IF=wlp1s0; readlink -e /sys/class/net/${IF}/device/driver/module "
[14:33] <slavka`> >>> # See sudoers(5) for more information on "#include" directives:
[14:33] <slavka`> MonkeyDust: happy to pastebin if it helps?
[14:34] <Titan_king> TJ-, "/sys/module/rtl8723be"
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> Titan_king: why did you mess with drivers in the first place? did the ubuntu default ones not work?
[14:35] <Titan_king> TJ-, Yep, they kept disconnecting
[14:36] <Titan_king> TJ-, This was the way suggested in many places including askubuntu abd ubuntuforums
[14:36] <slavka`> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/wdANUyna if you can help would be appreciated
[14:36] <TJ-> Titan_king: show us "pastebinit <( IF=wlp1s0; F=/sys/class/net/${IF}/device/driver/module/parameters/; for n in $F/*; do echo $F=$(cat $n); done )"
[14:37] <TJ-> Titan_king: grr typo there! show us "pastebinit <( IF=wlp1s0; F=/sys/class/net/${IF}/device/driver/module/parameters/; for n in $F/*; do echo $n=$(cat $n); done )"
[14:38] <TJ-> Titan_king: replaced 'echo $F=' with 'echo $n=' !!
[14:39] <Titan_king> TJ-, One sec
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> slavka`  put a # before 'includedir'
[14:40] <Titan_king> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15472401/
[14:40] <TJ-> Titan_king: thnkas. which kernel version is loaded ("uname -r")
[14:41] <Titan_king> TJ-, it says "4.2.0-34-generic"
[14:41] <TJ-> Titan_king: so Ubuntu 15.10 Wily?
[14:41] <jonncodder> hi all
[14:42] <jonncodder> people
[14:42] <Titan_king> TJ-, Yes
[14:42] <TJ-> Titan_king: OK, those module parameters you just pastebinned - 2 of them control chipset low-power modes (ips and fwlps)
[14:42] <TJ-> Titan_king: I'd suggest testing with both of those set off (=0)
[14:42] <Happi> hi guys
[14:43] <Titan_king> TJ-, ok one sec
[14:43] <TJ-> Titan_king: you can create "/etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf" with "options rtl8723be ips=0 fwlps=0"
[14:44] <Titan_king> TJ-, Done , So Should I restart?
[14:44] <Titan_king> TJ-, Or can I reload modules?
[14:45] <TJ-> Titan_king: then unload/reload the module (after disabling wifi) with "nmcli radio wifi off; sudo modprobe -r rtl8723be; sudo modprobe rtl8723be; nmcli radio wifi on"
[14:45] <jsl45> so I've got a old 10.04 server, trying to do-release-upgrade... no such luck?
[14:46] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | jsl45
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> jsl45: install a supported ubuntu version from topic
[14:46] <jsl45> EriC^^ LockeAnarchist: thnx
[14:47] <Titan_king> TJ-, Done, Now also downloads cap at 60 kbps
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !usn | jsl45 check also the risks of using an eol version
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> Titan_king: did your speed was capped before installing that git driver?
[14:48] <TJ-> Titan_king: right, so that suggests the low-power-save isn't the issue. Can you just verify the loaded module is using those parameters you set with "IF=wlp1s0; F=/sys/class/net/${IF}/device/driver/module/parameters/; for n in $F/*; do echo $n=$(cat $n); done" and ensure both ips and fwlps = N
[14:48] <Titan_king> lotuspsychje, No
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> Titan_king: then why the heck did you install that?
[14:50] <Titan_king> TJ-, it says fwlps=N ips=N
[14:50] <TJ-> Titan_king: next test is to add to the modprobe config file "swenc=1" - that'll force the link encryption to be done by the CPU, not the wifi chipset. After setting, reload the driver again
[14:50] <Titan_king> lotuspsychje, as I mentioned wifi is unstable
[14:50] <Titan_king> TJ-, swenc = N
 TomyLobo: are your sure there are no linux console apps for the same task?
[14:50] <Titan_king> TJ-, changing it to one in options file
[14:51] <TJ-> Titan_king: many wifi chipsets exhibit flakey behaviour when hardware encryption is enabled so this is a good possibility
[14:51] <TomyLobo> i want to build a source engine game for windows
[14:51] <TomyLobo> i'm not sure, but the standard way is to build it with visual studio
[14:52] <TomyLobo> the reason i'm building it on linux and not on windows is CI
[14:52] <Titan_king> TJ-, Done
[14:52] <TomyLobo> i want to do nightly jenkins builds for it
[14:52] <TJ-> Titan_king: reload the driver do the tests again
[14:53] <Titan_king> TJ-, Download speeds are still around 60
[14:54] <TJ-> Titan_king: looking like something in the repo version of the driver; can you give me the full URL to the repo?
[14:54] <Titan_king> TJ-, "https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new"
[14:54] <willwh> TomyLobo: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Compiling_under_Linux ?
[14:55] <TJ-> Titan_king: for the record this looks like a common re-manifestation of bug 1320070
[14:55] <TomyLobo> willwh, that's under linux, for linux, isn't it? (reading)
[14:55] <TJ-> Titan_king: as in, your problem with the ubuntu 15.10 driver - another user in that bug reports the same issue recurring in 15.10
[14:56] <TomyLobo> willwh, it's not explicitly stated, but i think it is
[14:56] <d1rewolf> all, I'm running 15.10  on a Lenovo Thinkstation. Just about every morning, I come in to a frozen system. Screens won't wake up, won't respond to pings, etc. Two questions: (1) journalctl --until=today shows nothing...it seems that when I reboot the system, the journal database is cleared. Any way to access old logs? and (2) any ideas what might cause this and how to troubleshoot?
[14:56] <Titan_king> TJ-, So is there anything I can do?
[14:57] <TJ-> Titan_king: looking at the code/changes now
[14:57] <Titan_king> TJ-, Okay
[14:57] <TomyLobo> willwh, oh, first 4 words, in bold print: "Creating a Linux build"
[14:57] <willwh> :D
[14:57] <willwh> TomyLobo: shoud if you get stuck
[14:57] <willwh> been a while since I played with that stuff
[14:57] <willwh> but I can probably give you a hand if you need it
[14:57] <willwh> s/shoud/shout
[14:58] <TomyLobo> anyway, i'll need to make linux builds as well, so that'll be handy once i'm done with the windows stuff :)
[14:58] <willwh> I guess I'm confused
[14:58] <willwh> you want to build for windows, from linux?
[14:58] <willwh> i.e. you're hoping for X-platform CI?
[14:58] <TomyLobo> for windows and linux, from linux
[14:58] <baizon> what build?
[14:59] <TomyLobo> a source engine game
[14:59] <TJ-> Titan_king: I notice there's a new module option for forced antenna selection. might be worth testing that "ant_sel=1"
[14:59] <TomyLobo> this: https://github.com/BSVino/DoubleAction
[14:59] <Titan_king> TJ-, Yep tried both 1 and 2
[14:59] <Titan_king> TJ-, Still no use :-(
[15:00] <Titan_king> TJ-, This is silly but cant we use both antennas at a time?
[15:00] <b00b00> hello
[15:00] <Titan_king> TJ-, Because the download speeds are usaually exactly half the original download speeds of the Internet
[15:01] <TJ-> Titan_king: yes, it does by default. ant_sel is to force usage when the hardware has mis-configured the efuse
[15:01] <TomyLobo> "Experienced GCC programmers may be interested in Getting the SDK to work under -Wall -Werror." - heh, lofty goal... first thing would be to get it to *run* without asserting all the time :D
[15:01] <TomyLobo> i mean it runs and it's in production and all and it never crashed for me either, but those asserts are worrying :)
[15:01] <Titan_king> TJ-, So my card is using both antennas now. right?
[15:01] <b00b00> is there a way to block, that example ssh, from some of multiple fqdns leading to the same machine? maybe some way in iptables?
[15:01] <Titan_king> TJ-, still no use..
[15:02] <TomyLobo> b00b00, you cannot block someone else's DNS entries
[15:02] <b00b00> same machine, i mean also the same ip
[15:02] <TomyLobo> your ssh server never gets to know which fqdn was used
[15:02] <TJ-> Titan_king: have you seen https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/104
[15:03] <Titan_king> TJ-,  sadly that was posted by me :-(
[15:03] <TJ-> Titan_king: I wish you'd said!!
[15:03] <TomyLobo> b00b00, if you're talking about your ssh client, there's the hosts file and the ssh client configuration file
[15:03] <b00b00> TomyLobo: i think the same, i just want to know if maybe there is a trick i waant aware
[15:03] <TomyLobo> but your request strikes me as mad
[15:03] <Titan_king> TJ-, looked so close, did't it
[15:04] <LaserAllan> hey there I am pretty sure this might be the best place to askbut I have had Fail2ban running on a Ubuntu server working very good for 5-6months straight and today i found out that either it is not bannig as it should or something else is up becuase I am not getting the emials that I should from it, acording to the mail logs they are beeing sent but not received. I am using GMAIL but I haven't had any issues at all for 5-6 months.
[15:04] <TJ-> Titan_king: also, this issue might be related: https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/95
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> LaserAllan  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:05] <TomyLobo> LaserAllan, it's called "*fail*2ban" :P
[15:05] <LaserAllan> lol
[15:06] <LaserAllan> TomyLobo: Thanks anyway^^
[15:06] <LaserAllan> Hopefully I can get the issue resolved :)
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: wich ubuntu version?
[15:07] <LaserAllan> lotuspsychje: 1404LTS
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: your up to date to latest mate?
[15:08] <LaserAllan> lotuspsychje: You mean if I have updates installed?
[15:08] <LaserAllan> If that is the case than yes
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> yep
[15:08] <LaserAllan> AYe
[15:08] <TJ-> Titan_king: is your PC also operating a Bluetooth radio?
[15:08] <LaserAllan> I think it might have broken after the update was done though which is why i am so oncufsed becuas it has been runnig veryw ell ever since i installed it
[15:09] <Titan_king> TJ-, Nope disabled
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> LaserAllan: maybe the #openssh might know whats going on
[15:14] <Titan_king> TJ-, Any other ideas?
[15:14] <TJ-> Titan_king: have yout tried a 'git bisect' to see if you can identify a commit that introduced this issue?
[15:14] <Titan_king> TJ-, No How do I do that?
[15:15] <TJ-> Titan_king: see https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect
[15:16] <TJ-> Titan_king: you could start off with bisecting from commit 15f04b7 (March 23 2015) which is just before some build fixes for kernel v4.1/v4.2
[15:17] <Titan_king> TJ-, will upgrading kernal help?
[15:17] <TJ-> Titan_king: I doubt it
[15:17] <TJ-> Titan_king: looks like a pure wifi module/device interaction issue; especially as the Ubuntu driver speed is OK (although it drops connections)
[15:18] <gsagie> Hello all, keep getting this: W: Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-backports/universe/source/Sources  Hash Sum mismatch   , i tried googling it and applying all solutions but nothing works :( any has any hint?
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> gsagie: added ppa's of any kind mate?
[15:18] <Titan_king> TJ-, That, I cannot say, It was completely unusable
[15:18] <TJ-> gsagie: it suggests the file and the checksums don't match for that archive
[15:19] <gsagie> lotuspsychje: maybe
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> gsagie: purge all ppa's first off your system
[15:23] <titan_king_> Hi
[15:26] <TJ-> gsagie: what are you using when you see that error, is it "apt-get update" ?
[15:26] <gsagie> TJ-: yes
[15:27] <gsagie> i will try to remove all ppa's as lotuspsychje suggested, but dunno how its related as it doesnt seems like it fails on them
[15:27] <TJ-> gsagie: because on the face of it it is trying to hash a file that doesn't exist on the mirror (or the primary archive servers). The 'Sources' file isn't there because there are 2 compressed versions (.bz2, .gz). I've checked their hashes against the InRelease file and they're correct
[15:29] <TJ-> gsagie: what does this report: "pastebinit <( ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*universe*Source* ) "
[15:30] <gsagie> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/qfZG9aY6
[15:32] <TJ-> gsagie: good, now generate the MD5 hash of the local file with "md5sum /var/lib/apt/lists/il.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-backports_universe_source_Sources" and show us the hash
[15:33] <TJ-> gsagie: according to the InRelease file (which lists the hashes of every file) it should be 3bd5ce2a949dc2e28bb243ba7c252a9a
[15:34] <hetii> I try to repack initrd.lz but when I pack it back I gt that cpio cannot stat a file (its a broken symlink)
[15:34] <hetii> so how to force on it to pack it back as it was originally ?
[15:34] <Skeptix> Hi?
[15:34] <gsagie> TJ-: 3bd5ce2a949dc2e28bb243ba7c252a9a
[15:35] <cdarne> \leave
[15:35] <gsagie> seems the same
[15:35] <Skeptix> what
[15:35] <Skeptix> I can't install wine
[15:36] <Skeptix> broken packages
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> Skeptix  what happesn when you try
[15:36] <Skeptix> Anyone can help?
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> Skeptix  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[15:37] <TJ-> gsagie: so, that looks correct. Now lets check the InRelease file you have locally. "grep 'universe/source/Sources$' /var/lib/apt/lists/il.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-backports_InRelease "
[15:37] <failpractice> how do I create a link from my main hd sda to sdb , sdc, and so forth
[15:38] <TJ-> gsagie: that should give you the line related to the Sources file itself. If not, we'll need to re-formulate the command to get it
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> failpractice  with ln -s
[15:38] <failpractice> ok let me give it a whirl
[15:38] <gsagie> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/dfmnXB2n
[15:38] <donald1> hello I want to downlaod shadow. I have installed dependancies, cloned the git hub link and execute the following: "git clone https://github.com/shadow/shadow.git -b release ;cd shadow; ./setup build; ./setup install; echo "export PATH=${PATH}:/home/${USER}/.shadow/bin" >> ~/.bashrc && bash;" at last but not least I ran shadow --version and the shell does not found it. during the installation with ./setup install the terminal returns [
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> !find shadow
[15:39] <nacc> donald1: that sounds like a question for the github project, not about any ubuntu package
[15:41] <TJ-> gsagie: well, that's the same!
[15:42] <TJ-> gsagie: not sure why you're seeing the issue *unless* there is a transparent HTTP proxy between your system and the archive mirror, and its returning a corrupted file
[15:42] <TJ-> hetii: are you using mkinitramfs ?
[15:42] <RealMurphy> Hi, brief question: I'm trying to build a clean chroot for wily and xenial. Works nicely with amd64, but fails with i386. makedev package complains about missing /dev/tty[0-9] for chmod. Anyone seen this error?
[15:43] <hetii> TJ-: I do it by:  find . | cpio --quiet --dereference -o  -H newc | lzma -7 > ../initrd.lz
[15:43] <RealMurphy> example command line is: cowbuilder --create --distribution=xenial --debootstrap debootstrap --components 'main universe restricted multiverse' --debootstrapopts --arch=i386 --debootstrapopts --no-check-gpg --debootstrapopts --verbose --basepath=/var/cache/pbuilder/base.xenial.i386.cow
[15:43] <TJ-> hetii: you're asking it to --dereference (symlinks) but complaining because it fails on a broken symlink?
[15:44] <hetii> hmm
[15:44] <TJ-> hetii: first thing is to identify the symlink and find out why it is broken
[15:44] <hetii> ok will try without this option
[15:44] <failpractice> I get with ln -s not a directory, which makes sense it a hard drive
[15:45] <TJ-> failpractice: you want to link the raw block devices (sda,sdb) ?
[15:45] <hetii> but wonder how someone pack this initrd image (its from official image)
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> failpractice  you have to mount devices, then you can link (ln) the content
[15:46] <failpractice> yeah I have a rack server bays 1/2 mirror as sda then 4 others SDB SDC SDE
[15:46] <failpractice> ok that would make sense
[15:47] <john341> Can anyone pls share if Intel X540 10GbE nic is supported in 14.04.4 ISO, or alternatively how to easily install the driver?
[15:47] <donald1> nacc I asked in #bash and I get Not a #bash question. We're no experts in that software or OS; consider asking the channel or mailing list with experts on that topic (eg. ##linux #openssh #ubuntu #zsh).
[15:47] <TJ-> failpractice: hard or symbolic links only work inside file-systems, not with raw block devices. Some file-systems don't support the links
[15:47] <hetii> TJ-: I repack it and the side are differ 24553111 != 24359101
[15:48] <TJ-> hetii: which is the original initrd.img-$VERSION you're extracting?
[15:48] <Skeptix> HQLOO
[15:48] <Skeptix> Halo
[15:49] <nacc> donald1: your post got cutoff, fwiw, so i'm not sure what hte bash issue is. You should ask the github project owner to help, I think
[15:49] <failpractice> @tj I can get to it from my top lvl by going to /dev/sdb and such and ls
[15:50] <failpractice> I can also see them all with sudo lshw -C disk
[15:51] <TJ-> failpractice: I'm worried about what you're doing and what you're trying to achieve. It doesn't sound correct on the face of it
[15:51] <jabriya> hi all
[15:51] <reisio> hi jab
[15:51] <jabriya> how is everything
[15:52] <hetii> TJ-: its from 14.04
[15:52] <failpractice> I need to be able to access and save to those drive is all
[15:52] <failpractice> If I screw it up I can re install and start over
[15:53] <TJ-> failpractice: /dev/sd? are raw block devices. To write files there needs to be file-systems on the devices, or in partitions on those devices. Then, those file-systems need *mount*-ing into the the running system. For system mounts we often out them under /mnt/
[15:53] <failpractice> ah nothing there that now makes sense
[15:54] <TJ-> failpractice: I'm wondering if you're actually trying to create a RAID mirror set!?
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> failpractice  format the block device, then mount it to a folder
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> failpractice  then you can link the content
[16:02] <gsagie> TJ-: thanks for your help and time!
[16:02] <failpractice> was it a mistake not to have my server look at all the bays as on gaint setup from the beginning? I have 4 logical drives
[16:04] <ash_workz> what do you think it means when your Software Updater window only shows the title bar?
[16:04] <ash_workz> as if the whole window is collpased (or rather, has no content)
[16:05] <ash_workz> "resize" is disabled ... hmm
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  right click on it, it may be a mouse setting
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  make that: middle click
[16:05] <ash_workz> MonkeyDust: middle click minimizes it
[16:05] <ash_workz> "it" being the title bar
[16:06] <gsagie> TJ-: thanks for your help and time, just wanted to make sure you see :)
[16:12] <metroins> Hi, I'm thinking about upgrading from 14.04 to 16.0 4; is there an easy way to do this?
[16:12] <teward> metroins: i would not do that until 16.04 releases.
[16:12] <metroins> oh ok
[16:12] <teward> and until it does, #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 questions
[16:12] <k1l_> metroins: its not done yet. its still unstable.
[16:13] <failpractice> Thanks TJ figured it out without breaking anything --sucesspractice today
[16:13] <pavlushka> can I change my local default fonts?
[16:14] <reisio> pavlushka: can change anything at all
[16:15] <pavlushka> how? please tell me.
[16:17] <pavlushka> reisio, please tell me how can I do it.
[16:21] <Cablegunmaster> pavlushka, try unity tweak tool
[16:21] <Cablegunmaster> pavlushka, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19770/how-do-i-change-fonts-and-adjust-their-size
[16:22] <pavlushka> thanks, Cablegunmaster & reisio , its may be not the place for xubuntu
[16:23] <Cablegunmaster> so? its just a distro
[16:23] <pavlushka> though I asked the Q in #xubuntu as well
[16:23] <Cablegunmaster> im on mate, still running ubuntu at its core xD
[16:23] <pavlushka> got it, then I'll try the suggestion
[16:24] <MacroMan> My gnome-shell keeps crashing with a segfault and then my computer starts org.freedesktop.systemd1 instead: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15472959/
[16:24] <MacroMan> Bizarly this only happens when using the developer tools in Chrome.
[16:24] <Cablegunmaster> delete chrome reinstall chrome?
[16:25] <MacroMan> Done. Same symptoms.
[16:25] <Cablegunmaster> good luck MacroMan, g2g
[16:28] <Jagrophess> is anyone else having problems with the system randomly thinking you're pressing Alt?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> Jagrophess  ubuntu doesnt 'think randomly' ... make sure your keyboard is clean
[16:33] <reisio> Jagrophess: pretty common for modern cheap/crap keyboards to get a key stuck
[16:34] <reisio> Jagrophess: try smacking all your modifier keys a few times each
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> sounds scary, ubuntu starting to think randomly
[16:35] <EriC^^> sudo exorcism
[16:35] <EriC^^> easy fix
[16:36] <MacroMan> Reminds me of https://kings2027.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/sudo-make-me-a-sandwich-300x249.jpg
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> "What are you doing Dave? Will you stop that!"
[16:38] <ash_workz> MacroMan: I hadn't seen that one; lol
[16:38] <MacroMan> MonkeyDust, Good ol' HAL
[16:48] <designbybeck> On an ASUS Laptop running 15.10, HDMI output to a TV had been working, but after an update it stopped working and does list it in Displays. It had an Intel Graphics Card.
[16:49] <hetii> I`m able to have shared casper-rw over NFS, and my ubuntu is now persistent
[16:50] <hetii> but for that I need change initrd.lz, any chance that such patch can be included to official tree ?
[16:53] <elopez_> hi
[16:57] <theseb> why does ubuntu server need 1.1G? possible to trim that down?
[16:58] <designbybeck> Nevermind, a few restarts didn't help, but a full shutdown fixed the HDMI problem after Update
[16:58] <Annice3> :) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon.     S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛
[16:59] <ch33sus> hi, im trying to install ubuntu (14.04) from an netinstall image, obviously this needs a network connection, but the drivers that come with this kernel dont support my skylake based ethernetcard; intel offers driver but only as a source distrib, how do i load these drivers during installation?
[17:00] <craptalk> do you know a program to download something in linux like Internet Download Manager?
[17:00] <craptalk> help please
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  try axel
[17:01] <craptalk> MonkeyDust: similar to IDM? and can be added into browser?
[17:01] <xangua> craptalk: uget is a popular download manager
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> find axel
[17:01] <k1l_> craptalk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/366525/idm-like-softwares-in-ubuntu
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> !find axel
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> !info axel
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> not quite
[17:02] <xangua> craptalk: depends what browser, Flashgot add-on for Firefox should support most
[17:02] <michaelgamble> anyone know where / who i might talk to about trying to replicate existing DNS record for a clients domain
[17:03] <michaelgamble> i know that this isnt the channel , but i figure you guys might know / or who / where to ask
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> michaelgamble  try ##networking
[17:04] <craptalk> MonkeyDust: how to use axel?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  never used it myself, only know it's there
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  it has a man page
[17:06] <craptalk> MonkeyDust: well, i thought you used it before, does it have GUI?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> craptalk  http://itsfoss.com/4-best-download-managers-for-linux/
[17:11] <k1l_> craptalk: on linux downloadmanagers are not common like on windows.
[17:21] <Tocard> <IP_ADDRESS> +22222 habeeb:nog00d00
[17:23] <spithas> hello
[17:24] <c418_> howhowh
[17:29] <antonispgs> i just enabled public key authentication and i haven't turned off password authentication, is it normal that it asks me for a password every time?
[17:32] <k1l_> antonispgs: then the key auth is not working
[17:34] <antonispgs> hmm i see... another round of troubleshooting to see why not lol
[17:38] <am_> need advice, which alternative present for teamviewer to connect remotely from ubuntu to windows?
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> am_  try reminna
[17:39] <Kartagis> can ubuntu be installed on a GPT disk?
[17:39] <am_> Kartagis, yes
[17:39] <Kartagis> owkay
[17:39] <Kartagis> thanks
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> !info remmina | am_
[17:40] <am_> MonkeyDust, yep I found it allready, but on the windows side I need the default win server or remmina server?
[17:40] <am_> I need something like a teamviewer
[17:40] <am_> TeamViewer is not good idea for me because wine inside)
[17:41] <compdoc> teamviewer is horrible
[17:41] <compdoc> am_, you have the Unity desktop?
[17:44] <Rebbi> Hello guys
[17:44] <Rebbi> Is this the official ubuntu support channel?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> Rebbi: welcome, what can we do for you?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> Rebbi: yes
[17:45] <Rebbi> i have a question abount partitioning and gparted
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> Rebbi: ask in the channel so everyone can read along and help
[17:46] <Rebbi> isnt this the right channel?
[17:46] <am_> compdoc, yes Unity
[17:46] <am_> 7
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> Rebbi: yes it is
[17:46] <Rebbi> allright my problem is
[17:46] <am_> compdoc, yes, teamviewer is horrible, agree
[17:47] <Bitrix> does anyone know why I can't install lenses? when I try and log out, nothing appears in the dash
[17:47] <Rebbi> when i installed ubuntu (i am a newbie of ubuntu) i used lvm
[17:48] <Rebbi> and now i m trying to shrink the partition for ubuntu
[17:48] <Rebbi> but it says that /dev/sda5 is full for some reason even though i have just installed
[17:48] <compdoc> am_, unfortunately, unity and some gnome desktops are '3d' and dont work with vnc or the other remote control programs. I use ubuntu server, and install the Mate desktop, but others work too, like Xfce
[17:49] <am_> hm why vnc don't working with it?
[17:49] <compdoc> requires a 2D desktop
[17:49] <am_> no way
[17:49] <antonispgs> i had to change the permissions of my username directory to 755
[17:49] <am_> bu why))
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> Rebbi: can you check df -h from terminal, to see if its really full?
[17:50] <am_> compdoc, I need the solution to use server side without whit eIP
[17:51] <compdoc> whit eIP
[17:51] <compdoc> ?
[17:51] <am_> without white IP (i mean externl internet ip).  Only intranet
[17:52] <compdoc> install minimum Server, then install Mate, then install the best remote client:  x2go
[17:52] <compdoc> xRDP works well too
[17:52] <am_> compdoc, )
[17:53] <Rebbi> uhmm, it doesn't even show up
[17:53] <Rebbi> i'm from live session, running from my usb device
[17:55] <TomyLobo> "white ip"? i think you made that term up :)
[17:56] <Kyloh> hi
[17:56] <compdoc> TomyLobo, never heard of that either
[17:58] <Exagone313> Hi, what are the meta|packages I may use to install KDE alongside another desktop env? I don't want to use kubuntu-desktop. I just find out dated replies on Internet. Thanks for your help.
[17:58] <antonispgs> how practical is it to turn off password auth? do i have to move the pub key to every computer i wanna get access from?
[17:59] <reisio> Exagone313: why don't you want to use that
[17:59] <Exagone313> because it installs many things useless
[17:59] <frostschutz> antonispgs, yes, without password you need keys everywhere. you should be using keys anyhow, much better than password
[18:00] <reisio> they're not really any better than passwords, for people who know what they're doing :p
[18:00] <TomyLobo> compdoc, apparently there are mentions here and there of that term. i'd say it's someone's marketing lingo.
[18:00] <Phreya> Qucik question here. Should I bother with installing 16.04 that pre-release version, or 15.10, or just wait till 16.04 full release? I'd like rather clean installations
[18:00] <antonispgs> all i am concerned is security for my remote server
[18:00] <Exagone313> I am note sure if kubuntu-desktop could break ubuntu-desktop for example
[18:00] <reisio> Phreya: waiting is pointless, IMO
[18:00] <Exagone313> I ask for a friend so I can't try
[18:00] <TomyLobo> Exagone313, are the packages marked as "Break" or "Conflicts"?
[18:00] <patter> I've got an odd keyboard issue, the keymap's fine, but I've got to press `  twice for it to register
[18:00] <antonispgs> i have disabled root login, now turned on key auth and thinking of removing passwd auth
[18:00] <reisio> Exagone313: won't break anything, but you'll have double the apps in your menus
[18:01] <TomyLobo> if not, dont worry
[18:01] <Exagone313> I don't have a VM to try here
[18:01] <antonispgs> and last step would be fail2ban
[18:01] <am_> TomyLobo, there is term which knows everyone in runet
[18:01] <antonispgs> or am i too worried?
[18:01] <Phreya> reisio: should I just go 15.10, and upgrade that to 16.04 in the time?
[18:01] <reisio> antonispgs: those are all pretty standard precautions
[18:02] <frostschutz> antonispgs, each client has their own key; if a client is lost (stolen laptop) you can disable their key on the server.
[18:02] <reisio> antonispgs: forcing keys over passwords won't really make anything more secure, but it's pretty common anyway
[18:02] <TomyLobo> am_ runet meaning the russian-speaking part of the internet or something else?
[18:02] <TomyLobo> either way, it's best not to translate idioms literally
[18:02] <antonispgs> so i have to generate a key on each machine? or carry my key on a usb stick? sorry for how naive this might sound
[18:02] <Exagone313> the guy didn't started with ubuntu-desktop finally, he started with minimal ~ installed via debootstrap, and he has gnome-panel. so installing a big metapackage will be ... bad
[18:02] <TomyLobo> otherwise everyone will just understand train station
[18:02] <Exagone313> he has slow connection, he just wants kde
[18:03] <nikita> ghbdfnt
[18:03] <nikita> привет
[18:03] <frostschutz> antonispgs, it's easier for the private key to stay private if you don't copy it around
[18:03] <nicomachus> !ru
[18:03] <reisio> Phreya: you can upgrade from prerelease 16.04 to plain 16.04
[18:03] <minimec> Exagone313: That one will probably give you a quiet minimalistic KDE desktop... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=kde-baseapps&searchon=names
[18:03] <TomyLobo> am_ if that last part made no sense, see http://ithinkispider.com/
[18:03] <Phreya> reisio: that's perfect. thanks.
[18:03] <antonispgs> yea but if i have disabled root login and passwd auth, then how am i supposed to enter the other machine's key to the server if need be?
[18:04] <Exagone313> minimec: it does not install plasma-desktop, so I think there is a meta-package more efficient
[18:04] <frostschutz> antonispgs, with the help of one of the other clients?
[18:04] <Exagone313> thanks anyway I copy the thing
[18:04] <frostschutz> antonispgs, or you could enable password auth temporarily... it's all up to you
[18:05] <minimec> Exagone313: That could well be. I never use(d) KDE...
[18:05] <antonispgs> right i see, should i go ahead with fail2ban default settings as well?
[18:05] <Exagone313> maybe plasma-desktop with recommended packages
[18:06] <am_> TomyLobo, ha. ha. ha.
[18:06] <frostschutz> antonispgs, I have no personal experience with fail2ban - just be careful not to lock yourself out with it
[18:07] <antonispgs> do you think that disabled root login, disabled passwd auth and changing the ssh port along with public key auth is secure enough for a random server on a datacenter?
[18:08] <frostschutz> changing the ssh port is not really a security measure; although it might help getting rid of some stupid bruteforce bots on your logs, it's purely cosmetical
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> frostschutz  there are +1400 people in ##security
[18:09] <antonispgs> is honeypot like fail2ban?
[18:09] <antonispgs> well frostschutz thanks so much
[18:09] <antonispgs> let me search some things by myself
[18:09] <reisio> antonispgs: no, honeypots are something else
[18:10] <reisio> if you want to actively investigate people attempting to infiltrate your systems, rather than just stop them
[18:10] <antonispgs> right i see
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> antonispgs   there are +1400 people in ##security
[18:12] <hussein> hi
[18:12] <antonispgs> yes monkeydust, i was just informed for its existence by you
[18:12] <mushmouth> antonispgs: ask them if they run windows or apple
[18:13] <reisio> heh
[18:13] <antonispgs> hahahah
[18:15] <smtwtfs> how does 16.04 look *right now*? will it be release ready in time?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> smtwtfs  4 more weeks until release
[18:17] <nacc> smtwtfs: #ubuntu+1
[18:17] <smtwtfs> thx
[18:17] <mushmouth> MonkeyDust: my body ready
[18:17] <mushmouth> this release is a step in the right direction
[18:18] <smtwtfs> I was considering installing 15.10
[18:18] <smtwtfs> but dont know if I would be better off waiting
[18:20] <k1l_> smtwtfs: you can install 15.10 now and upgrade ti 16.04 from april to july
[18:20] <reisio> waiting is fairly pointless
[18:20] <reisio> you can install 16.04 now, and then update 16.04 later
[18:20] <minimec> smtwtfs: You can get answers on stability of 16.04 in #ubuntu+1 '/join #ubuntu+1'. My first experineces with 16.04 in a virtual machine are quiet promising.
[18:21] <mushmouth> apparently in 16.04 taskbar can move to bottom etc
[18:21] <i4> becauseunity8
[18:21] <gourav777> why did not i get C icon on each file this is screenshot on ubuntu 14.04 lts  http://picpaste.com/c-bUexhHYi.png ??????
[18:21] <k1l_> i4: nope. unity8 has nothing to do with that
[18:21] <LibreSponge> http://fossforce.com/2016/03/oops-broke-drm-blu-ray/
[18:21] <LibreSponge> sorry
[18:22] <mushmouth> is 16.04 going to use mir?
[18:22] <reisio> gourav777: what's 'file' say about each of those files? (file *.*)
[18:22] <k1l_> mushmouth: no. ist still the unity7 on xorg default
[18:22] <mushmouth> k1l_: that make me sad
[18:23] <gourav777> reisio: it dont show icon on each file it shown icon on only one file[file is of c program]
[18:24] <reisio> gourav777: I saw that — you got a response for my question?
[18:24] <smtwtfs> I would rather have the launcher on the bottom by far. putting it on the left makes me OCD. It makes the screen oddly shaped.
[18:24] <mushmouth> smtwtfs: i prefer left imo
[18:25] <gourav777> reisio : Sorry!!  i dont get your question???
[18:25] <k1l_> smtwtfs: looking at screen ratios putting the launcher to the side is not that dumb.
[18:25] <reisio> gourav777: file ~/Desktop/test/*.* | pastebinit
[18:25]  * _KaLiF is the _KaLiF
[18:25] <gourav777> reisio:  what's this???
[18:25] <smtwtfs> I've never thought 100 or whatever pixels mattered that much.
[18:25] <reisio> gourav777: it's a command
[18:26] <gourav777> reisio: od i have to run it?
[18:26] <gourav777> *do
[18:26] <smtwtfs> I'd rather have it along the bottom anyway, I have a 21:9 screen. I can have loads of programs visible without stacking
[18:27] <smtwtfs> 21:9 is desktop heaven btw. one of the best computer related things I've ever bought.
[18:27] <gourav777> reisio: 'pastebinit' not installed!!!!   now do i have to install it or not???
[18:28] <reisio> gourav777: that would be helpful, yup
[18:28] <k1l_> gourav777: use this "file ~/Desktop/test/*.* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:29] <reisio> netcat is installed by default but pastebinit isn't? :p
[18:29] <k1l_> yep :)
[18:30] <gourav777> it remain same after running [[[file ~/Desktop/test/*.* | nc termbin.com 9999]]]  :(
[18:30] <lee_g750jm> hello all
[18:30] <bobby23> When booting ubuntu 14.04, i get taken to "initramfs busybox, /dev/disk/uuid does not exist" I have tried to fix superblocks through e2fsck and i have tried updating initramfs through liveusb, yet none of this has worked, what could possibly be the problem, this has happened multiple time causing me to keep reinstalling as i simply cant figure it out
[18:30] <gourav777> reisio: it remain same after running [[[file ~/Desktop/test/*.* | nc termbin.com 9999]]]  :(
[18:31] <reisio> gourav777: try pastebinit, then
[18:31] <reisio> 'lo lee_g750jm
[18:32] <k1l_> gourav777: did you run "file ~/Desktop/test/*.* | nc termbin.com 9999" in a terminal?
[18:32] <k1l_> gourav777: did it print a url?
[18:32]  * _KaLiF is the _KaLiF
[18:32] <k1l_> _KaLiF: stop that please
[18:32] <Pici> _KaLiF: Please stop.
[18:32] <_KaLiF> ok
[18:33] <gourav777> kll: yes
[18:33] <gourav777> yes
[18:33] <Pici> gourav777: can you give us that URL?
[18:33] <k1l_> gourav777: show the link here
[18:34] <gourav777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15474027/
[18:34] <_KaLiF> moov.mg
[18:34] <gourav777> kll:
[18:34] <_KaLiF> telma.mg
[18:34] <_KaLiF> orange.mg
[18:34] <k1l_> gourav777: the command is not changing anything. it is just posting informations on a pste service
[18:34] <gourav777> kll: now how can i get icon on each file??
[18:35] <enric90> ciao
[18:35] <enric90> !list
[18:36] <gourav777> kll: and screenshot is here.so you get complete problem http://picpaste.com/pics/c-bUexhHYi.1458670861.png
[18:36] <k1l_> gourav777: the one with the C is the only empty file.
[18:37] <gourav777> kll: yess!!!
[18:37] <k1l_> gourav777: the others have aski text inside and get associated with gedit, i think. but what is the issue. just the look is not the issue, is it?
[18:38] <gourav777> but when i used linuxmint  it shows icon on each file....... so why not ubuntu??
[18:38] <gourav777> kll
[18:38] <bobby23> the uuid that ubuntu claims does not exist is my /dev/sda2
[18:38] <bobby23> is there a way of fixing this through /etc/fstab
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> gourav777  because mint is different from ubuntu, it's a different distro
[18:39] <popey> gourav777: those _are_ icons :)
[18:39] <gourav777> kll: popey: means i have no option to recognise my file graphically????????
[18:40] <nacc> bobby23: you could update fstab to point to the right UUID?
[18:40] <bobby23> nacc: how would i do that (new to linux)
[18:40] <hid> hello
[18:40] <popey> gourav777: what are you expecting to see?
[18:40] <hid> how could one know how a package was installed?
[18:40] <m1dnight_> Where does duplicity get the current hostname? I have changed /etc/host but still duplicity shows me localhost (or something similar)
[18:40] <gourav777> i want to see tea cup on java file . large C on c file and Cpp on c++ files
[18:40] <popey> hid: dpkg -l <packagename> | grep ^ii
[18:41] <gourav777> popey
[18:41] <popey> gourav777: switch off previews?
[18:41] <nacc> bobby23: so it's very odd that the UUID has changed; do you see an entry /dev/disk/by-uuid/ with a symlink to /dev/sda2 ?
[18:41] <gourav777> popey: i dont get your solution
[18:41] <popey> gourav777: in nautilus -> preferences -> preview
[18:41] <nacc> bobby23: and are you installing anything special (or removing the ubuntu kernels, etc.)
[18:42] <bobby23> nacc: when it boots it says /dev/disk/byuuid with a uuid number, i went into liveusb and used to "sudo blkid" to discover it was talking about /dev/sda2
[18:42] <gourav777> popey: where can i found nautilus??
[18:42] <popey> gourav777: nautilus is the window in your screenshot - it's the name of the file manager
[18:42] <bobby23> nacc: this has literally happened around 5-7 times and i just keep reinstalling out of frustration
[18:43] <nacc> bobby23: ok, is that disk available by symlink in /dev/disk/by-uuid ?
[18:43] <nacc> bobby23: what precedes the issue? which version of ubuntu?
[18:43] <bobby23> nacc: apologies, i dont understand what you mean by symlink
[18:43] <bobby23> nacc: ubuntu gnome 14.04
[18:43] <bobby23> nacc: this happens everytime i update
[18:44] <bobby23> nacc: it also happens if my laptop shuts down by loss of battery
[18:44] <gourav777> popey: now there are many options in preview..
[18:44] <wellick> when I type "sudo passwd root" and I get asked for the password it doesn't let me enter anything. so weird! what could it be? I can type just fine in the terminal at any other time.
[18:45] <nacc> bobby23: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg and `ls -ahl /dev/disk/by-uuid`
[18:45] <bobby23> nacc: sure two secs
[18:46] <nacc> wellick: it just doesn't echo what you're typing, that would be h orribly insecure
[18:46] <wellick> nacc: right, but it didn't seem to be working at all. let me try again.
[18:47] <olalonde> Hi everyone, I'm trying to setup wifi on a fresh ubuntu server install. iwconfig shows a weird name: wlx0013ef2a07fc IEEE 802.11bgn ESSSID:off/any, etc.
[18:47] <olalonde> Does that mean anything?
[18:47] <olalonde> It's a usb wifi dongle
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> olalonde  a server with wifi?
[18:48] <nacc> olalonde: it probably stands for wireless linux and then the mac address?
[18:48] <olalonde> MonkeyDust: yes
[18:48] <olalonde> I see
[18:48] <olalonde> Was wondering if it was missing a driver
[18:48] <Pici> olalonde: ubuntu started using systemd to generate interface names, see https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[18:49] <nacc> wellick: sudo is asking for you user's password
[18:49] <bobby23> nacc: here is the pastebin: pastebin.com/JaEEFnqm
[18:49] <olalonde> Pici: oh that's why ok. Is http://askubuntu.com/a/464552/2331 going to work or I need to read up on how to do it with systemd?
[18:49] <wellick> nacc: i was trying to create one. how do I check if I have a root account?
[18:49] <Pici> olalonde: that should still work, but your interface names will be different, of curse.
[18:50] <olalonde> Ok, thanks. Will try that.
[18:50] <gourav777> popey: are you getting my point?
[18:50] <skyblue_> hello
[18:50] <k1l_> gourav777: do you have a program for c files?
[18:50] <nacc> wellick: sorry, you were trying to set *root*'s password
[18:51] <skyblue_> untu set by rw!dax@freenode/staff-emeritus/dax at Mon Mar 14 11:49:17 2016
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[18:51] <skyblue_> * #ubuntu :http://www.ubuntu.com
 hello
 gourav777: do you have a program for c files?
 wellick: sorry, you were trying to set *root*'s password
[18:51] <nacc> wellick: maybe start over and explain what you are trying to do?
[18:51] <gourav777> yes
[18:51] <dax> woooo misclicks :(
[18:51] <gourav777> i used gcc and g++ as compiler skyblue: kll
[18:51] <wellick> nacc: well, i'm trying to move a file to my bin folder so it can be used as a command in the terminal. But I got a "permition denied" or something like that
[18:51] <k1l_> wellick: on ubuntu you dont use the root account
[18:52] <k1l_> wellick: stop
[18:52] <nacc> wellick: that doesn't seem right
[18:52] <nacc> wellick: your own bin folder should definitely be writeable as your own user
[18:52] <nacc> wellick: using root to fix a permissions problem is a mistake
[18:52] <wellick> hmmm, what can I do then?
[18:52] <olalonde> Pici: wlx0013ef2a07fc would be the interface name in place of wlan0 right?
[18:52] <Pici> olalonde: indeed
[18:53] <nacc> wellick: please pastebin the output of whatever command you ran and the error you received
[18:53] <k1l_> wellick: you dont need to put stuff into the bin folder. you can create a ""bin" folder in your users home and put the file there.
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> wellick  symlink the command to /usr/bin/
[18:53] <k1l_> wellick: after a relogin it is working from terminal
[18:53] <nacc> bobby23: that seems ok to me; but i'm not sure what the initrd's environment is
[18:54] <popey> gourav777: http://imgur.com/T6x1YN2 like that - Never.
[18:54] <nacc> bobby23: if you reboot normally, it happens every time?
[18:54] <bobby23> yes
[18:54] <bobby23> nacc: everytime i reinstall, download all the programs i want, download update and reboot, it does this
[18:55] <bobby23> nacc: is it my usb?
[18:55] <nacc> bobby23: what do you mean "all the programs you want"? Are you installing any PPAs?
[18:55] <gourav777> popey : i set it to always but after that too i dont get icon
[18:55] <k1l_> bobby23: what machine is it? is it a raspberry pi?
[18:55] <bobby23> nacc: sublime text, mpv things like that
[18:55] <popey> gourav777: I said set it to never
[18:56] <bobby23> k1l_: no, my laptop is using ubuntu, i am currently speaking to you through a pi though
[18:56] <gourav777> popey: ok
[18:57] <gourav777> popey : Yureka! Yureka! you got my problem and solved it.. thanku buddies you are coool
[18:57] <gourav777> :)
[18:57] <bobby23> nacc, k1l_: i chose ubuntu gnome 14 because i liked the de and it was a lts release
[18:57] <nacc> bobby23: ok, are those packages from the official repositories?
[18:58] <bobby23> nacc: most of them are from the software centre, the rest i am getting through the official websites
[18:58] <bobby23> nacc: examples would be spotify, sublime text, google chrome, i am installing these through their ppa links that lead to the ubuntu software centre
[18:59] <nacc> bobby23: for the purposes of support here, it would be good to reproduce only with the official packages; no external stuff (as then it's not just ubuntu any longer)
[18:59] <nacc> bobby23: also, would be good to konw if you just install, update, reboot (no additions), does it reboot
[18:59] <bobby23> nacc: the reboot either stops working the first time or the second time
[19:00] <gourav777> kll and popey thanks again and good bye!
[19:00] <gourav777> :D
[19:00] <bobby23> nacc: could it be google chrome causing this, i get a warning from ubuntu not to install everytime i install it
[19:01] <bobby23> nacc: now that i mention it, this wouldnt happen when i initially used firefox, during my initial use of firefox there would be no failed boots, and the only time it happened, it was fixed with an e2fsck repair
[19:01] <nacc> bobby23: w/o doing anything? or after installing packages?
[19:01] <nacc> bobby23: i'd be surprised if chrome did it, as it should just be installing a browser :)
[19:01] <bobby23> the majority of the time it would fail after an update, upgrade and reboot
[19:01] <bobby23> nacc:
[19:02] <bobby23> nacc: this time it failed without any updates, only ppa installs
[19:02] <nacc> bobby23: it feels like something in your ppas is the issue; it would be really good to not install any ppas, and verify the base install is owrking; and if it's not, let's fix that
[19:02] <nacc> as the ppas aren't supported here (they are only supported by the ppa authors)
[19:03] <bobby23> nacc: what ppa's could be causing this
[19:04] <bobby23> nacc: would you like me to reinstall ubuntu with my liveusb?
[19:04] <nacc> bobby23: it's really up to you; it's hard for me to debug given taht you've said it worked ok sometimes (esp. w/o any ppas). If it's not a lot of work and there's nothingyou're losing, then it's probably easiest to level-set
[19:05] <bobby23> nacc: what is level-set (sorry lol)
[19:05] <asahadeo> Hi.
[19:05] <wellick> nacc: i didn't run anything, I used good old GUI.
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  what was your initial question?
[19:05] <wellick> k1l_: you mean create ANOTHER bin folder?
[19:06] <nacc> bobby23: sorry, just to get to a place that's well-defined, but let's see if MonkeyDust has any insight too
[19:06] <k1l_> wellick: in you users home folder. create a "bin" named folder
[19:06] <bobby23> nacc: i should clarify, the first time this happened i was using ubuntu gnome 15, i was able to fix it by repairing e2fsck, then it happened again, so i decided to just install ubuntu 14 as i thought it would be more stable, ever since then, everytime i install ppas, i get taken to initramfs on bootup
[19:06] <bobby23> MonkeyDUst: allow me to paste
[19:06] <k1l_> wellick: if there is already a "bin" folder in your users home (i am not speaking about /usr/bin !!) then just put your files into there
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  what is 'this' and 'it'?
[19:07] <nacc> wellick: as k1l_ said, you don't put your own user's scripts/executable in /usr/bin (or wherever), but in ~/bin/
[19:07] <bobby23> MonkeyDust:  "When booting ubuntu 14.04, i get taken to "initramfs busybox, /dev/disk/uuid does not exist" I have tried to fix superblocks through e2fsck and i have tried updating initramfs through liveusb, yet none of this has worked, what could possibly be the problem, this has happened multiple time causing me to keep reinstalling as i simply cant figure it out"
[19:07] <wellick> got it, let me try.
[19:08] <asahadeo> Hi, I am relatively new to Ubuntu, installed Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS on an old Dell laptop of my dad's about two months ago.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  and has 14.04 ever booted correctly, or is this on a new install?
[19:08] <asahadeo> Looking to learn a lot from the community.
[19:09] <bobby23> MonkeyDust: it works initially then fails to boot after i have installed ppas, updated, upgraded and rebooted
[19:09] <Bashing-om> wellick: For instance: " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -ld ~/bin >> drwxrwxr-x 2 sysop sysop 4096 Jan 22  2015 /home/sysop/bin " .
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  you mean the ppas have destablized your ubuntu?
[19:10] <bobby23> MonkeyDust: I dont know what is happening, apologies, im new to gnu/linux
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  start by disabling the ppas, then
[19:10] <nacc> MonkeyDust: that's about where we were at :)
[19:10] <bobby23> MonkeyDUst: how?
[19:10] <bobby23> MonkeyDust, nacc: i am currently on liveusb, how shall i proceed
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  ok, from liveusb, try    cat [path to HDD]/etc/apt/sources.list|grep ppa
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  ok, from liveusb, try    cat [path to HDD]/etc/apt/sources.list | grep ppa
[19:16] <wellick> nacc: so after putting a script (say "lp") on ~/bin/ i can run "lp" on the terminal anywhere and it will run the script?
[19:16] <wellick> I tried but it's not working
[19:16] <bobby23> MonkeyDust: is the hdd "/dev/sda" when i try it, it states "permission denied"
[19:17] <k1l_> wellick: logout and in again
[19:17] <TJ-> wellick: does the PATH currently include ~/bin ?
[19:17] <TJ-> wellick: at log-in that directory is added to the PATH only if the directory exists
[19:17] <k1l_> after creating the home bin folder you need to login again once
[19:18] <k1l_> not that i wrote all that already :/
[19:19] <TJ-> positive reinforcement :)
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  ok, leave the live usb, reboot ubuntu and hold the left shift key ... go to recovery ... or are you doing al this on the pc you use to be here?
[19:21] <hetii> hmm
[19:21] <bobby23> monkeydust: talking to you through another pc
[19:21] <bobby23> monkeydust: which recovery should i pick
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  with a working kernel
[19:21] <hetii> Q: if use toram kernel argument is it possible to use persistent with it ?
[19:22] <bobby23> MonkeyDUst: alright, i just picked the one at the bottom
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  great, in what screen are you now
[19:23] <TJ-> hetii: 'toram' isn't a valid kernel parameter
[19:23] <wellick> i'm having doubts about this PATH thing. It works if I type ~/bin/lp argument but obviusly I want it to be a command, executable only by lp argument
[19:23] <bobby23> MonkeyDust: recovery failed, taken to initramfs again
[19:23] <k1l_> wellick: did you logout?
[19:23] <wellick> yes
[19:23] <bobby23> monkeydust: shall i try the other recovery option
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  try another 'recovery'
[19:24] <hetii> TJ-: ok but for initrd it is :)
[19:24] <TJ-> hetii: OK, but that isn't the kernel :)
[19:25] <bobby23> MonkeyDUst: was richard stallman wrong? is free software a cult!?!?! ;)
[19:25] <k1l_> wellick: please show the output of "echo $PATH"
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  blasphemy! RMS is never wrong!
[19:25] <TJ-> hetii: I don't see 'noram' in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init either
[19:25] <wellick> k1l_: /home/pedro/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[19:26] <hhee> hi all :)
[19:26] <streetwitch> I'm looking for someone who can do SEO for my site.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  in the beginning, all software was free, but a certain Bill Gates made it commercial
[19:26] <hetii> hmm but somehow this argument is passed to scripts/casper
[19:26] <hetii> TJ-:  ^
[19:27] <k1l_> wellick: now please show a "ls -al /home/pedro/bin/"   (use paste.ubuntu.com if its several lines)
[19:27] <asahadeo> A certain Bill Gates bought up the little guys and discontinued their products.
[19:27] <TJ-> hetii: what probably is happening is the kernel command line is parsed by other tools (/proc/cmdline) to find arguments those other tools recognise
[19:27] <nicomachus> streetwitch: perhaps check in a channel related to web dev, and not distro support?
[19:27] <frostschutz> streetwitch, look in the mirror, read google's seo starter guide, and you're good to go
[19:27] <wellick> (i'm running ubuntu in virtual box btw)
[19:28] <bobby23> MonkeyDUst: the second recovery failed too
[19:28] <bobby23> MOnkeyDust: is there any way of logging in through initramfs
[19:29] <wellick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15474431/
[19:29] <wellick> k1l_
[19:30] <k1l_> wellick: so if you did a complete logout to the login screen and back. then this should work
[19:30] <wellick> i did
[19:30] <wellick> let me reboot virtual box
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  no, i don't know how to repair initramfs
[19:31] <bobby23> MOnkeyDust: "gave up waiting for root device. common problems: -check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) -check root= (did the system wait for the right device?) - missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  i'm reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1691436
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  scroll down on that page, to kiyop's entry, april 30th... update-initramfs looks promising
[19:36] <bobby23> MonkeyDust: alright ill try
[19:36] <olalonde> Ok, so I setup the wifi but it is extremely slow
[19:36] <olalonde> Could it be because I need another driver?
[19:37] <bobby23> MonkeyDust: off the cuff question, you ever built your own pcbs?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  'ever'... in the early 1990's, but i guess that's not what you mean... not anymore since
[19:38] <bobby23> MonkeyDust: is it stupid to do it now, i was inspired by watching woz build an apple 2
[19:45] <Biff1> Could someone help me install a printer (driver?)
[19:45] <helmut_> hello
[19:45] <bobby23> Monkeydust: there are 5 lines beginning with root=uuid
[19:46] <Biff1> I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:46] <smtwtfs> Q: I've messed around with ubuntu before and noticed that drives are all represented by the same icon on the launcher. Is there a way to differentiate them visually? I have 6 ssd on my desktop and use drives in docks as well.
[19:47] <Biff1> I have downloaded the two tgz files and expanded them
[19:47] <Biff1> there is a 'readme' file but is of no use????
[19:47] <hetii> re
[19:49] <nkprince007> pandusonu
[19:49] <Biff1> I've plugged in the printer and tried to Add a printer but it does not have the correct printer listed
[19:49] <Biff1> connected printer via USB
[19:51] <Biff1> Could someone help me install a printer or is that somewhere else?
[19:51] <new_student> Hi! What is the safest way to perform a linux kernel upgrade in Ubuntu?
[19:52] <nkprince007> hey, is there any channel for indians
[19:53] <bobby23> MonkeyDust: the uuid in the failed bootup seems to be correct
[19:54] <mcphail> new_student: the safest way is to accept the default upgrades from the package manager. Did you have something more specific in mind? Anything else is going to require a bit of knowledge and risk, and is not really supported
[19:54] <minimec> new_student: fisrt: ask yourself the question: Do I erally need a newer kernel. 2nd: I you are on 14.04 for example, you can do some kernel upgrades within the software repository. Check for linux-image-generic-lts packages...
[19:54] <bobby23> Monkeydust: perhaps i should change something in the startup in grub?
[19:55] <new_student> I require rtl8723be.ko
[19:55] <new_student> which is not present in the present kernel that I have
[19:55] <NeoFrontier> Hello, Is ubuntu ok with USB mic interfaces ?
[19:55] <bobby23> nacc: are you by any chance still here
[19:56] <hetii> TJ-: looks like toram option discards persistent :(
[19:56] <new_student> mcphail: minimec ^^ Hence I am asking for the safest way. apt-file search tells me a lot of linux-image-extra packages. I am not sure which one to choose
[19:57] <minimec> new_student: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=linux-image-generic-lts&searchon=names
[19:57] <new_student> yes, which one should I choose? there are so many
[19:57] <new_student> oh i see
[19:58] <minimec> new_student: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[19:58] <cristhian> #bolivia
[19:58] <nacc> bobby23: sure, but about ot have lunch
[19:58] <new_student> 14.04
[19:58] <new_student> 14.04.4*
[19:59] <bobby23> nacc: so recovery has failed and the uuid number on bootup seems to match the one in sudo blkid
[19:59] <bobby23> nacc: how do i solve the ppa issue
[19:59] <TJ-> !find rtl8723be.ko trusty | new_student
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> bobby23  you must find a way to access /etc/apt/sources.list ... delete the ppas in that file
[20:00] <new_student> so, which one should I choose? I already did that using apt-file search
[20:00] <TJ-> new_student: what is the current kernel version ("uname -r") ?
[20:01] <new_student> linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[20:01] <TJ-> new_student: are you sure it isn't already installed ("modinfo rtl8723be") ?
[20:01] <new_student> yes, it's not there.
[20:01] <nacc> bobby23:  you could try puring all the ppas
[20:02] <nacc> ppa-purge, iirc
[20:02] <bobby23> MonkeyDust, narc: How would i identify which one is causing it for future reference
[20:03] <new_student> TJ-: 3.13.0-24-generic
[20:03] <nacc> bobby23: not sure off the top of my head
[20:03] <minimec> new_student: strange.  That would update the kernel of your current 14.04 version.
[20:05] <minimec> new_student: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-image-generic
[20:05] <TJ-> new_student: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic" -- if that fails it is because your installed kernel is very out of date and you need to dist-upgrade to the latest for trusty
[20:06] <new_student> I already have linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic installed
[20:06] <new_student> it doesn't have the .ko file
[20:06] <new_student> I think I already shared this?
[20:07] <TJ-> new_student: really? does "dpkg -S rtl8723be.ko" come up empty?
[20:07] <new_student> Yes
[20:07] <elGALLO> hi, whats the best way to clone my Ubuntu 14.04 server installtion on a 1TB HDD to a 120 GB SSD?
[20:08] <new_student> TJ-: when you did: !find rtl8723be.ko trusty | new_student you already saw that 3.13.0-24 isn't listed
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> !clone | elGALLO
[20:08] <TJ-> new_student: that's because, as it said, there are 196 hits!
[20:08] <new_student> TJ-: I hope they are in a sorted fashion
[20:09] <elGALLO> thanks MonkeyDust
[20:10] <TJ-> new_student: "dpkg -S rtl8723be.ko" => "linux-image-extra-3.13.0-62-generic: /lib/modules/3.13.0-62-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtlwifi/rtl8723be/rtl8723be.ko" (that's 3.13.0-62-generic) but the same would apply to your 0-24
[20:10] <minimec> new_student: If you had the package linux-image-generic installed, you would be on kernel 3.13.0-83-generic, as I mentioned above...
[20:10] <new_student> okay
[20:10] <TJ-> new_student: have you verified the module isn't in the file-system?
[20:11] <new_student> TJ-: Yes, I did sudo updatedb; locate rtl8723be.ko
[20:11] <new_student> and it was empty
[20:11] <TJ-> new_student: did I ask you to use locate? use the command I gave you
[20:12] <new_student> Yes, that was empty too
[20:12] <new_student> oh, wait no
[20:13] <new_student> TJ-: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *rtl8723be.ko*