[06:18] <|rt|> it's just /boot/ that needs to be on RAID1 right
[06:18] <sainzeo> @N3432: my girl would use it, but she says she would feel bad for having to ask me how to do everything in it haha
[06:18] <N3432> sainzeo, yea ill check it out,
[06:18] <WX9J> N3432: What are you using for Ituens now
[06:18] <crazy_> is there a pdf organizer for linux? I have a lot of pdf documents wanna to manage it properly like the way picasa handling photo
[06:18] <|_ocke> no opinions?
[06:19] <N3432> WX9J, im using itunes .. im on XP Pro now.
[06:19] <Jason_Ubuntu> ????
[06:19] <|_ocke> N3432, gross
[06:19] <boyam> mikebot: check md5 hash...this is ubuntu help channel by the way.. :)
[06:19] <N3432> my ubuntu dl is at 40% going at 588kb/s
[06:19] <WX9J> Do you buy the tunes ?
[06:19] <N3432> Nah
[06:19] <|_ocke> N3432, good start then
[06:19] <mikebot> boyam: I'm trying to figure out how to do this in ubuntu :)
[06:19] <|_ocke> yeah screw itunes
[06:19] <N3432> i personally really like itunes
[06:19] <mikebot> boyam: What is md5 hash?
[06:19] <Gnea> welp, i'm almost ready to replace debian sid with ubuntu on this laptop
[06:19] <crazy_> !pdf organizer
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pdf organizer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <N3432> im trying to remember what program i used on linux for music, it was kind of like itunes it had a database
[06:20] <Gnea> N3432: amarok?
[06:20] <N3432> amarok
[06:20] <N3432> yea
[06:20] <mikebot> boyam: Oh, I mean, is there like a virtual drive or something I can run the image on to check it?
[06:20] <WX9J> I just started using the Rythumbox on here for Itunes, works well without the itunes store stuff bugging me
[06:20] <sainzeo> @N3432: i think the new amaroK that comes out soon will be much more similar to iTunes then it has been...well the album art switching adn what not
[06:20] <N3432> but i remember amarok used a ton of ram.
[06:20] <mikebot> boyam: Before I burn it? (I used Alcohol 120% in WIndows to do such a thing).
[06:20] <Gnea> yeah it's based on KDE
[06:20] <N3432> does ubuntu still use gnome
[06:20] <N3432> i dont like kde
[06:20] <razor-x11> Want to use itunes on ubuntu?
[06:21] <N3432> kde reminds me of scumbags, i want to pepper spray it.
[06:21] <Nutubuntu> N3432, yes
[06:21] <Gnea> yeah, but i'll be replacing all of that crap with E17
[06:21] <WX9J> N3432: yes it does but there is another flavor using KDE
[06:21] <maccam94> N3432: ubuntu will pretty much always use gnome. kde users have to use kubuntu or install kde manually
[06:21] <Gnea> i prefer KDE over gnome, but they're both jump in my book
[06:21] <Gnea> s/jump/junk/g
[06:21] <razor-x11> a good replacement for itunes is GTKpod
[06:21] <astro76> Jason_Ubuntu, click on options on the login screen and select session.... ?
[06:21] <maccam94> Gnea: e17 rocks
[06:21] <boyam> mikebot: vmware maybe?..
[06:21] <N3432> Gnea, wht are they junk
[06:21] <Gnea> maccam94: i use it daily
[06:21] <CheeseGardener> Is it normal for ubuntu to be using 300 mb of ram or so????
[06:21] <WX9J> Gnea: what do you use ?
[06:21] <maccam94> razor-x11: rhythmbox looks very similar to itunes
[06:21] <mikebot> boyam: I'll look into it, thanks.
[06:21] <razor-x11> do sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[06:21] <Gnea> WX9J: E17
[06:21] <N3432> i will switch to ubuntu as long as i can find a program that works with my ipod well
[06:21] <Nutubuntu> Rhythmbox running now, about 60mb ram used
[06:22] <sainzeo> yeah i'm def a fan of rhythmbox
[06:22] <WX9J> have no clue about that
[06:22] <maccam94> Gnea: i am just temporarily very interested in compiz fusion, so i'm forced to use gnome >_<
[06:22] <N3432> umm
[06:22] <dem0n> n3432 so us vm
[06:22] <Jason_Ubuntu> 'k
[06:22] <dem0n> use **
[06:22] <Gnea> N3432: because they were coded during the rise of the first dotcom bubble and are total hacks just to mimic the microsoft windows desktop
[06:22] <N3432> vm ?
[06:22] <Nutubuntu> virtual machine
[06:22] <N3432> vmware ?
[06:22] <sainzeo> @N3432: virtual machine
[06:22] <N3432> ah
[06:22] <mangojambo> troxor: hi .. I d tried to comment the file that you told and nothing happens ... :(
[06:22] <Kuma> Hi All. I'm looking a good player for flv files. Do you know any?
[06:22] <N3432> thats what vmware is right
[06:22] <CheeseGardener> In system monitory it says 300 or so mb of 1000 mb of ram are being used, is that normal for ubuntu??? and what does it mean if a program is sleeping????
[06:22] <WX9J> N3432: what kind of music do you listen to
[06:22] <sainzeo> @N3432: vmware server is free if you want to use it
[06:22] <Nutubuntu> vmware is one, there are others as well
[06:22] <dem0n> yes
[06:23] <razor-x11> or wine
[06:23] <N3432> WX9J, almost everything except country
[06:23] <maccam94> Kuma: mplayer
[06:23] <N3432> i like some rap/ tons of rock /
[06:23] <maccam94> rock on
[06:23] <razor-x11> wine works great with itunes
[06:23] <N3432> i just love music if it sounds good to me ill listen to it
[06:23] <dem0n> i wish some would come in here with a problem
[06:23] <Gnea> N3432: as a result, any simple gnome or kde app requires a ton of shared libraries to run, hence why they always chew up resources and lag
[06:23] <dem0n> lol im board
[06:23] <N3432> you know the funniest thing i have ever done in my life?
[06:23] <Kuma> but hasn't UI?
[06:23] <dem0n> what
[06:23] <N3432> driving around in a cop car listening to tupac
[06:23] <N3432> thats funny.
[06:23] <dem0n> ... ur a cop -.-
[06:23] <WX9J> N3432: sounds about the same here, the box has about 18 gigs of albums on it
[06:23] <JeevesMoss> lol, you guys could be building a server to host virtual websites from shell
[06:24] <N3432> dem0n, i'm a US marshal
[06:24] <N3432> ;-)
[06:24] <Gnea> i like E17 because raster went back to the drawing board and rewrote everything from the ground up
[06:24] <astro76> !offtopic | N3432 WX9J
[06:24] <ubotu> N3432 WX9J: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:24] <dem0n> ... even worse
[06:24] <N3432> dem0n, if you say so.
[06:24] <Gnea> N3432: so *that's* why you have such an ambiguous nickname ;)
[06:24] <dem0n> man i could go to jail lol
[06:24] <N3432> Gnea, i havent been on irc in like 6 months
[06:24] <N3432> Gnea, i typed this randomly.
[06:24] <Gnea> haha
[06:24] <Gnea> cool
[06:24] <CheeseGardener> In system monitory it says 300 or so mb of 1000 mb of ram are being used, is that normal for ubuntu??? and what does it mean if a program is sleeping????
[06:24] <agenippe> i can't startup my tomcat ,what can i do ?
[06:24] <JeevesMoss> well, I'll give you guys something to do.  lets see if we can get a copy of sendmail working
[06:24] <sainzeo> hey, another question guys...
[06:25] <N3432> this was one of the only irc channels i knew. so icome here.
[06:25] <razor-x11> N3432: have you got a standard ipod?
[06:25] <Gnea> dem0n: what's wrong with US marshals?
[06:25] <JeevesMoss> lodfhosdhfwq
[06:25] <N3432> razor-x11, i have a 1st gen nano
[06:25] <JeevesMoss> hello?
[06:25] <sainzeo> a friend is trying to run vmware server, but it keeps giving him a internal monitor error..any ideas?
[06:25] <dem0n> im illeagle :D
[06:25] <Nutubuntu> g/a sainzeo, don't ask to ask, just ask
[06:25] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: you have to distinguish between cached memory and active memory.
[06:25] <Gnea> sainzeo: tried the vmware forum?
[06:25] <razor-x11> N3432: got linux on it by anychance?
[06:25] <CheeseGardener> ???? how do I tell that?
[06:25] <N3432> dem0n, i dont hunt down illegals
[06:25] <sainzeo> @Gnea, yes
[06:25] <N3432> razor-x11, no i tried rockbox but it drained the battery big time
[06:25] <astro76> JeevesMoss, yes we can see you ;)
[06:25] <maccam94> razor-x11: does itunes 7 work in wine now?
[06:25] <dem0n> nah as in i hack and shit like yeah
[06:25] <astro76> !language | dem0n
[06:25] <ubotu> dem0n: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:26] <CheeseGardener> it says user memory.
[06:26] <rockets> monty_, any luck?
[06:26] <N3432> astro76, chill out bro everyone is cool.
[06:26] <Gnea> dem0n: oh yeah? from mexico?
[06:26] <JeevesMoss> astro76:  good to know that it's not mIRC screwing up agian.  Are you able to help me?
[06:26] <monty_> meh kinda, i can see the network now
[06:26] <monty_> but cant connect to it
[06:26] <CheeseGardener> It says that the user memory is what is being taken up, 347 or so of 1000
[06:26] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: my system is using about 320mb with firefox, gaim, tv, and some xterms open.
[06:26] <astro76> N3432, please feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic to chat, there's many in there
[06:26] <N3432> astro76, okay captain :-P
[06:26] <CheeseGardener> I see, what does it mean if a program is sleeping???
[06:26] <dem0n> astro i baleave your not suppose to be quateing anything i say or even talk to me for that madder
[06:26] <razor-x11> using less cpu
[06:27] <astro76> dem0n, I have know idea what you are talking about
[06:27] <dem0n> gnea no
[06:27] <N3432> dem0n, what state do you live in * dont worry i have way too many cases to come hunt you down lolllll *
[06:27] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: just means it isn't using up (much) CPU
[06:27] <dem0n> michigan
[06:27] <N3432> ahh
[06:27] <Gnea> dem0n: heh.
[06:27] <CheeseGardener> oh so it isn't using the full memory it has?
[06:27] <N3432> i live in NJ.
[06:27] <CheeseGardener> like firefox uses 64mb
[06:27] <razor-x11> nope
[06:27] <CheeseGardener> so when sleeping it doesn't use as much of those 64?
[06:27] <agenippe> how fast !!!
[06:27] <astro76> !offtopic | dem0n N3432 Gnea
[06:27] <ubotu> dem0n N3432 Gnea: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:28] <agenippe>
[06:28] <sainzeo> @CheeseGardener: my firefox is using 70mb right now..
[06:28] <astro76> !jp | agenippe
[06:28] <ubotu> agenippe:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[06:28] <Gnea> astro76: put a sock in it.
[06:28] <dem0n> astro stfu talkin to me before i get u in trouble
[06:28] <dem0n> ty gnea
[06:28] <astro76> !ops | gnea dem0n
[06:28] <ubotu> gnea dem0n: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:28] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: linux will keep filling up the memory until it is full and then it starts deleting unused stuff.  If you're using more ram than you have, it will write the stuff used the longest ago to swap disk.
[06:28] <Gnea> dem0n: stop.
[06:28] <agenippe>
[06:28] <agenippe>
[06:28] <Kousotu> any op plz pm me
[06:28] <astro76> !cn | agenippe
[06:28] <ubotu> agenippe: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:28] <N3432> this astro76 guy is a real stickler for rules
[06:29] <astro76> N3432, this is a busy channel and many need help
[06:29] <Kousotu> nix: can I pm you?
[06:29] <astro76> that's why there's offtopic
[06:29] <mindframe> why is firefox slow to open new tabs and switch between them?
[06:29] <nixternal> Kousotu: sure
[06:29] <dem0n> astro stfu please
[06:29] <bulmer> whose got one of those ATSC (hdtv) card working on their ubuntu? i tried the kworld hdtv 115 and it is crappy...any suggested model compatible on ubuntu?
[06:29] <CheeseGardener> Falstius, does that mean it will keep increasing the ammount of user memory?
[06:29] <nixternal> heh
[06:29] <CheeseGardener> till it reaches 1000?
[06:29] <Ashfire909> bulmer, i sent you a pm
[06:29] <agenippe>
[06:29] <Falstius> mindframe: tabs use a fair amount of memory, if your system doesn't have enough it will be slow.
[06:29] <maccam94> ok...
[06:30] <WX9J> I need to manually mount the four partitions on my slave drive each time I reboot, what is the best way to make it auto ?
[06:30] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: if you open more programs yes
[06:30] <bulmer> Ashfire908: you know you should ask permission first..
[06:30] <mindframe> Falstius, I have 2GB :)
[06:30] <PF|Ubuntu> What's the command to start and stop X?
[06:30] <Falstius> mindframe: well that then is probably not the problem :)
[06:30] <CheeseGardener> I'm not opening more but it keeps going up
[06:30] <mindframe> Falstius, I open one tab and it takes a few seconds to switch between them
[06:30] <razor-x11> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:30] <CheeseGardener> the user memory keeps going up a little
[06:30] <tulga> I need openoffice novell edition on my 7.04 box. is it possible?
[06:31] <maccam94> PF|Ubuntu: /etc/init.d/gdm start|stop|restart
, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:31] <PF|Ubuntu> ok thanks
[06:31] <razor-x11> np
[06:31] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: could be lots of reasons.  Opening up new pages in firefox, loading documents, a program with a memory leak ...
[06:31] <moj2> allo
[06:31] <HelpMe> II have a problem.  I just installed Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory but when I start a game it just exits.   What do I do?
[06:31] <CheeseGardener> It goes down sometimes but it stays around 320-350
[06:32] <CheeseGardener> right now it's almost 350mb
[06:32] <astro76> CheeseGardener, that's pretty normal in linux, and that's very low really, stuff stays cached but will be wiped if needed
[06:32] <maccam94> HelpMe: run the game from a terminal, see if it dumps any error messages before it dies
[06:32] <razor-x11> What is it running under, HelpMe?
[06:32] <HelpMe> maccam94:  how do i run in in the terminal?
[06:32] <CheeseGardener> Oh I see, so it's only that high because it's being kept in memory?
[06:32] <CheeseGardener> because there is plenty of extra?
[06:32] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  ubuntu?
[06:33] <astro76> CheeseGardener, it's actually a good thing
[06:33] <sainzeo> @CheeseGardener: yeah i think thats whats up...that way if u use the same prog over and over, it'll be quicker....i think...
[06:33] <CheeseGardener> well when I add up the megabyes used under programs open
[06:33] <Gnea> i hope this geforce4 440 go will work good with the latest ubuntu
[06:33] <CheeseGardener> it doesn't add up to 350
[06:33] <sainzeo> @Gnea: that should be fine with ubuntu
[06:33] <CheeseGardener> all the programs running with memory useage are like... around 200ish
[06:33] <CheeseGardener> mb
[06:33] <sainzeo> even my onboard video card works fine
[06:33] <astro76> CheeseGardener, exactly, old stuff is cached but will be freed isntantly if needed
[06:33] <moj2> my ubuntu installation has recently quit booting on my Thinkpad T20 - not entirely sure why - I disable silent / splash to see messages, and it appears to hang at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20" (though, alt+ctrl+delete still works, it never boots past this point)
[06:33] <N3432> sainzeo, join ubuntu-offtopic
[06:33] <maccam94> Gnea: it does
[06:33] <N3432> lol party in there
[06:34] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  so what do i do?
[06:34] <garette> hi all i am using gnome and my mail client is thunder bird, whenevr i click an email link automatically evolution opens up, plz temme how do i make thinderbird as default?
[06:34] <maccam94> Gnea: i have a machine at work with ubunut with one of those
[06:34] <razor-x11> HelpMe, are you running win32 or on linux binaries?
[06:34] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: yeah, it won't remove anything from RAM until it is all used, even if you close the program (it is more efficient that way)
[06:34] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  i have no idea
[06:34] <CheeseGardener> oh I see so old programs
[06:34] <CheeseGardener> are still in memory then?
[06:34] <astro76> indeed
[06:34] <Gnea> maccam94: i hope so. i'm getting a lot of grief in debian sid with 2.6.22 kernel and the latest legacy nvidia driver
[06:34] <Qodosh> I have a dual boot on my laptop. Ubuntu and Vista.  Ubuntu appears twice at the selection of what OS to boot. Anyone know why it might appear twice. I don't have two installs of it.
[06:35] <bulmer> CheeseGardener: what is the worries or concern if the ram is used or not?
[06:35] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: they can be.
[06:35] <razor-x11> HelpMe, run it in the term
[06:35] <jamesdell> hi, i got this error.. "Package w32codecs has no installation candidate" How to solve?
[06:35] <tulga> I need openoffice novell edition on my 7.04 box. is it available to install?
[06:35] <astro76> Qodosh, kernel security update so you have a second version
[06:35] <Gnea> maccam94: no error messages, but nothing shows on the screen - it's a toshiba satellite - and i can't find anything or anyone else who knows
[06:35] <garette> Qidosh, lol edit you grub referring guide
[06:35] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  how do i do that?
[06:35] <astro76> Qodosh, you can install the old one with synaptic
[06:35] <mikebot> Is there a dvd image loader for ubuntu?
[06:35] <astro76> Qodosh, *uninstall
[06:35] <CheeseGardener> I see, so it's not really that much ram being used?
[06:35] <Gnea> maccam94: plus i've gotten to the point that i'm tired of mucking around with unstable code just to maintain a portable desktop
[06:35] <razor-x11> HelpMe, /dir where the game is/game binary
[06:35] <CheeseGardener> it just seems higher than it really is?
[06:35] <garette> odosh,  lol edit you grub referring guide
[06:36] <moj2> going to try this again
[06:36] <astro76> CheeseGardener, I have 1555 used out of 2026
[06:36] <garette> hi all i am using gnome and my mail client is thunder bird, whenevr i click an email link automatically evolution opens up, plz temme how do i make thinderbird as default?
[06:36] <moj2> my ubuntu installation has recently quit booting on my Thinkpad T20 - not entirely sure why - I disable silent / splash to see messages, and it appears to hang at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20" (though, alt+ctrl+delete still works, it never boots past this point)
[06:36] <garette> lol i repeated my doubt
[06:36] <CheeseGardener> Oh ok
[06:36] <garette> plz chek that guys
[06:37] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: there are other ways to check if ram is being actively used or cached.  The system monitor applet provides both cached and active memory.
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> Is it just me, or does Ubuntu use a LOT less ram actively compared to windows?
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> On windows, it actively uses like 400 MB
[06:37] <razor-x11> yep
[06:37] <astro76> CheeseGardener, it's not just you ;)
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> on here it has, at max 200 mb
[06:37] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  its in  other
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> and some programs are sleeping
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> so it's even less than 200 mb really
[06:37] <moj2> o-kay
[06:37] <Gnea> moj2: have you tried removing the cd drive while it's off?
[06:37] <razor-x11> Windows is a CPU and Memory Hungry os
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> probably more like 100 mb?
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> how much less useage does a sleeping program use???
[06:37] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  nvm moved it to the desktop.
[06:37] <garette> do somebody mind checking my very small problem? lol??
[06:37] <CheeseGardener> compared to it's active state?
[06:37] <moj2> is there any other channel anyone knows of that I can go to for troubleshooting ubuntu boot problems?
[06:38] <astro76> garette, system>preferences>preferred applications
[06:38] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  whats a binary?
 yes?
[06:38] <Gnea> moj2: i'm trying to do that now
[06:38] <Falstius> CheeseGardener: in terms of memory, no less.  In terms of CPU it makes a huge (but difficult to quantify) difference.
[06:38] <moj2> oh sorry, I didn't notice I got a response :)
[06:38] <garette> astro76, thanks
[06:38] <maccam94> moj2: did any of your hardware change recently?
[06:38] <razor-x11> garette, What is ya small problem?
[06:38] <Gnea> moj2: no problem, have you tried that?
[06:38] <garette>  razor-x11, lol i got the solution even...
[06:38] <Fezzler> when I click a link in Firefox to view a PDF file, when I'm done viewing and "download" cleans up, is that PDF still on my hard drive, if yes where?
[06:39] <moj2> not yet, I can try it though
[06:39] <maccam94> moj2: btw, another great way to find answers is to google the error message, and check ubuntuforums.com (if you ever need to)
[06:39] <garette>  razor-x11, anyways if you wanna solve i shall give you nice big problem?
[06:39] <Gnea> moj2: could be a bad drive or connection
[06:39] <moj2> oh recently, I changed the boot command line in order to fix a clock problem on the T20 where the clock was always going twice as fast as normal
[06:39] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  I dont know what a binary is
[06:39] <razor-x11> garette, go for it lol
[06:39] <CheeseGardener> Oh I see...
[06:40] <CheeseGardener> so they use the same memory cause it will be needed to bring the program back up
[06:40] <CheeseGardener> but the CPU devotes less power to it
[06:40] <CheeseGardener> that's smart
[06:40] <moj2> the problem was that I didn't see any error message - it just stops after the cd-rom driver load - which makes sense if the cd-rom drive is acting up for some reason
[06:40] <CheeseGardener> windows is such a hog
[06:40] <moj2> I'm going to reboot and give that a shot
[06:40] <garette> razor-x11, well here i go..
[06:40] <CheeseGardener> it used to run so slow but, with ubuntu my computer is like 500% faster
[06:40] <moj2> be right back
[06:40] <CheeseGardener> if not 1000% literaly
[06:40] <taime> what text editor can i use besides vim when i dont have an x session?
[06:40] <razor-x11> garette, lol, wjhat are you running?
[06:41] <taime> is it vedit?
[06:41] <Gnea> taime: nano
[06:41] <kuitang> taime: emacs, pico, nano
[06:41] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  u there?
[06:41] <taime> nano! thats it thanks
[06:41] <skippy-pants> taime: you can use vi, or nano, pico
[06:41] <MagicFab> how can I setup power management options from command line ?
[06:42] <razor-x11> helpme, goto modsonline.com
[06:42] <razor-x11> garette, and got to the tutorials
[06:42] <garette> razor-x11, recently after i updates all my sofwares using update-manager, my system turned wierd, ... , the first work space is working and the remaiining three work space.. are gone.. in the sense.. when i select them, nothing shows up except the fancy wallpaper which i set lol
[06:42] <Qodosh> astro76: If I am uninstalling the second one, what am I looking to uninstall specifically within synaptic?
[06:42] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  why?
[06:42] <garette> razor-x11, what tutorials?
[06:42] <garette> razor-x11, lol
[06:43] <razor-x11> garette, wrong person lol, very tired.
[06:43] <astro76> Qodosh, hang on
[06:43] <razor-x11> :D
[06:43] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  can you just tell me what to put into the terminal?
[06:43] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  pretty pleas? :)
[06:43] <garette> razor-x11, anyways did you see my problem??
[06:44] <garette> razor-x11, i forgot to say that i run compiz, which used to run smooth before i updated my softwares lol
[06:44] <lufis> What is "virtual memory"?
[06:44] <razor-x11> garette, yes
[06:44] <razor-x11> garette, by any chance you updated to a new kernel?
[06:44] <maccam94> lufis: what your computer does when it runs out of physical memory
[06:45] <garette> razor-x11, i got a graphic card with 256mb memory and
[06:45] <maccam94> lufis: it has a file or partition where it offloads less used data
[06:45] <astro76> Qodosh, linux-image-<oldversion>, linux-headers-<oldversion>, linux-restricted-modules-<oldversion>
[06:45] <HelpMe> razor-x11:  nvm you dont have 2
[06:45] <lufis> maccam94: Well, in top and gnome's system monitor, apps are using a lot of virtual memory but my swap isn't even being used
[06:45] <avarner> garette, i have a really similar problem, i changed some things updated others and boom lots of problems now but its okay i suppose can live with it
[06:45] <garette> razor-x11, i reinstalled the whole of ubuntu via dvd yesterday
[06:45] <astro76> Qodosh, leave the new version and anything without a version alone
[06:45] <razor-x11> garette, Nvidia ?
[06:45] <garette> avarner, sorry i can't live without 4 desktops lol :P
[06:46] <garette> razor-x11, yeah
[06:46] <maccam94> lufis: you got me, dunno what that's about... maybe a glitch?
[06:46] <garette> razor-x11, nvidia 7600
[06:46] <razor-x11> garette, Nvidia fx series?
[06:46] <razor-x11> garette, Nvidia ahh
[06:46] <lufis> maccam94: I dunno...
[06:46] <garette> razor-x11, NVIDIA 7600 go Geforce, mobile card for laptops
[06:46] <razor-x11> garette, so the hole system is playing up?
[06:46] <avarner> garette, yeah i hear that -- i am using an nvidia fx 5200go tho so yeah my laptop's graphics suck anyway
[06:46] <garette> razor-x11, lol
[06:46] <garette> razor-x11, help
[06:46] <astro76> garette, you could try #ubuntu-effects or #compiz
[06:47] <garette> astro76, i thought those to be second options lol
[06:47] <RageAgainstThis> where can i find the codec for .ape?
[06:47] <garette> razor-x11, so what do you think?
[06:47] <orbstra> hey where can i learn to config exim4
[06:48] <Gnea> www.exim.org
[06:48] <orbstra> thx
[06:48] <wehttamb> how can i upgrade to ubuntu 7.10
[06:48] <astro76> !gutsy | wehttamb
[06:48] <ubotu> wehttamb: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:48] <wehttamb> i know its not ready yet but i would like to try it
[06:49] <astro76> wehttamb, upgrade is much more than trying ;)
[06:49] <astro76> it's kinda irreversable
[06:49] <moj1> alrighty
[06:49] <garette> razor-x11, are you thinking or slept out of tiredness?
[06:50] <moj1> changing the cd-rom out / removing it didn't help - it froze after HDD init instead
[06:50] <user01> has anyone gotten sierra u595 wireless usb to work well?
[06:50] <wehttamb> astro76: yea but i still want it
[06:50] <moj1> I have a feeling it has more to do with acpi / apic settings that were tested right before this started happening
[06:51] <moj1> but I was hoping if that were the case, that when I went back to the old settings it would work the way it used to, clock too fast, but at least booting
[06:51] <moj1> but that has not been the case
[06:51] <astro76> garette, they are second options, because I never see anyone answer compiz/beryl questions in here ;)
[06:51] <garette> astro76, lol
[06:52] <jpowermacg4> hey guys, i --purge removed my linux kernel and installed a new one.. but now grub doesn't give me any booting options.. anyone know what i need to do to get grub working again.. it claims it detects my kernel when i run /usr/sbin/update-grub .. but when i boot.. it only shows me a grub line
[06:52] <garette> astro76, i think prob is not with my compiz, but with updating softwares
[06:52] <Reilithion> I installed Celestia and ran it once.  After a very short time, it seemed to crash, and took the rest of the system with it -- I was forced to press the power button and allow Ubuntu to shut down, then boot back up.  Now, OpenGL applications do not seem to be working at all, from Celestia to glxgears.
[06:52] <Reilithion> How can I diagnose and fix this problem?
[06:52] <bulmer> jpowermacg4: you're screwed if you didnt run mkinitrd right after you replaced your old kernel
[06:53] <jpowermacg4> i'm back into rescue mode
[06:53] <garette> astro76, i already dropped the messages in those channels but no reply
[06:53] <jpowermacg4> i can run mkinitrd now
[06:53] <crypto> can someone tell what is wrong with this crontab line? 1 * * * * my_command. I find that it only executes this command every hour. I thought this shd execute every min. Can someone explain?
[06:53] <garette> astro76, :(
[06:53] <astro76> garette, it's just that that stuff is still so buggy, most X weirdness is due to them
[06:53] <astro76> garette, that is also common :/
[06:53] <palintheus> I am trying to create a /home partition on an existing install, it was set up with LVM and when I try to boot to a 7.04 live cd I get a tty error, gparted does not recognize my root partition, and i don't feel confortable with lvresize
[06:53] <garette> astro76, rofl
[06:53] <PF|Ubuntu> Im trying to get to Run Level 3 without the X interface. Yet everytime I stop X, I dont get a command line. And everytime I try to boot into Recovery Mode and init 3 to get to Run Level 3, it starts X. What can I do?
[06:54] <maccam94> PF|Ubuntu: have you tried doing ctrl + alt + f1 after stopping X?
[06:54] <PF|Ubuntu> sec
[06:54] <jpowermacg4> bulmer where is mkinitrd located?
[06:54] <bulmer> PF|Ubuntu: level 2-5 are all same level, you wanted 1 for single user?
[06:54] <nomaS> nobody can help me with freebsd?
[06:54] <PF|Ubuntu> It says I need 3
[06:54] <PF|Ubuntu> to install this driver
[06:54] <garette> astro76, well i heard the next version of ubuntu is coming with the compiz-(something better than currentone) is it so?
[06:54] <Music_Shuffle> nomaS, this isn't a freeBSD help channel.
[06:54] <PF|Ubuntu> nomaS, this is Ubuntu not BSD
[06:54] <Music_Shuffle> garette, compiz-fusion, I think so.
[06:54] <bulmer> jpowermacg4: thats just the step you must do when replacing stuff at /boot to install the new kernels
[06:55] <astro76> garette, yeah in fact compiz-fusion will be turned on by default for supported hardware, so it should work well then :D
[06:55] <nomaS> sorry, just askin
[06:55] <nomaS> sorry, just asking
[06:55] <garette> Music_shuffle,yeah
[06:55] <maccam94> PF|Ubuntu: ctrl + alt + F1. login. run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. do whatever. then do /etc/init.d/gdm start to start X again
[06:55] <jpowermacg4> bulmer how do i do that step.. i'm loaded into a rescue shell
[06:55] <nomaS> where can i find help ?
[06:55] <astro76> nomaS, there's an active ##freebsd channel
[06:55] <garette> astro76, hehe yeah
[06:55] <garette> astro76, no replies on the other 2 channels, you know anything about my problem?
[06:56] <astro76> no sorry
[06:56] <nomaS> thanks
[06:56] <garette> hehe
[06:56] <garette> :0
[06:56] <bulmer> jpowermacg4: hang..i may have to search my notes
[06:57] <garette> astro76, i actually use gentoo, which i unexpectedly lost due to *misremoval* of gentoo partition on my harddisk
[06:57] <astro76> garette, maybe try something as simple as removing them from workspace switcher and re-adding them? not sure if that's even used with compiz, I haven't tried that stuff
[06:57] <wehttamb> how can i install xorg 7.3?
[06:58] <maccam94> wehttamb: um, download the alpha 7.10 livecd? is 7.3 even stable yet?
[06:58] <astro76> wehttamb, best bet wait till october for gutsy
[06:58] <wehttamb> can i download it and install it into 7.10?
[06:58] <wehttamb> just xorg 7.3
[06:58] <garette> astro76, i was actually trying to complately remove my wondows partition and unexpecteldy removed my gentoo partition, which took a month for me to install (compile) properly, so now i am frustated and installed ubuntu
[06:58] <Kousotu> try windows VistaRC1? lol
[06:59] <astro76> wehttamb, that's not supported
[06:59] <wehttamb> ok
[06:59] <garette> astro76, which is as easy as eating a piece of cake lol
[06:59] <astro76> garette, lol
[06:59] <astro76> wehttamb, and probably not worth your time
[06:59] <wehttamb> ok
[06:59] <maccam94> garette: ah, that is too bad. usually you can recover that type of thing with something like testdisk
[06:59] <bulmer> jpowermacg4: i can not  easily find my notes..i believe it is not just mkinitrd but also the  device definitions..find any tutorial on kernel compilation, the steps are pretty much the same
[07:00] <astro76> wehttamb, get the latest gutsy tribe livecd and run it if you want to check stuff out
[07:00] <maccam94> indeed
[07:00] <ca1> maccam94:  azureus is still doing the same thing...
[07:00] <maccam94> ca1: where did you install azureus from?
[07:00] <jpowermacg4> ok bulmer.. but i woulda thought i could run whatever ubuntu runs during the install for it to work.. lol
[07:00] <wehttamb> astro76: im interisted in the support for multiple monitors in xorg7.3
[07:00] <ca1> maccam94:  This was my brother's computer, so it already had it.
[07:00] <ca1> maccam94:  should I reinstall?
[07:00] <astro76> wehttamb, even better, report any bugs in launchpad
[07:01] <garette> maccam94, no i deleted and reformatted the gentoo partition even before i relaized
[07:01] <Kousotu> sux to be you?
[07:01] <wehttamb> thats y i would like either gutsy or xorg 7.3 in feisty
[07:01] <astro76> wehttamb, yes gutsy is supposed to support multiple monitors out of the box
[07:01] <maccam94> ca1: did it use automatix?
[07:02] <astro76> wehttamb, it's not going to be even close to that easy as it is to say
[07:02] <ca1> maccam94:  sorry, accidentally closed window* What did you say before?
[07:02] <wehttamb> yea thats why im interisted in it
[07:02] <wehttamb> ok
[07:02] <wehttamb> why not
[07:02] <maccam94> ca1: is automatix in applications -> system tools ?
[07:02] <garette> maccam94, :D
[07:02] <ca1> maccam94:  yes
[07:02] <Kousotu> astro, wil it support my acer aspire 3680 laptop?
[07:02] <astro76> wehttamb, seriously, get the gutsy tribe (3 or 4 not sure which one's out now), try it out, and help out by reporting bugs
[07:03] <maccam94> ca1: alright, open that up, and go to the uninstall tab
[07:03] <maccam94> (i hope it's the new version)
[07:03] <Kousotu> astro76: t3 right now
[07:03] <wehttamb> can i just upgrade to that from 7.04 or do i have to do a full install
[07:03] <yellow_chicken> anyone know how to recursively get google map, so that when i am travelling, i can see it without wifi?
[07:03] <astro76> Kousotu, hmm?
[07:03] <Kousotu> tribe 3
[07:04] <Kousotu> that's what I'm downloaing
[07:04] <Kousotu> lol
[07:04] <ca1> meccam94: All it said was automatix is only avaliable for ubuntu 6.10 or something
[07:04] <maccam94> ca1: ahh
[07:04] <maccam94> oy
[07:04] <maccam94> well
[07:04] <astro76> wehttamb, ... do you really want to upgrade your working stable system to something that is going to crash all the time and not guarantee not erasing all your data?
[07:04] <wehttamb> is it that unstable?
[07:04] <maccam94> YES
[07:04] <maccam94> IT IS ALPHA
[07:05] <maccam94> fyi i tried tribe 2
[07:05] <maccam94> it is VERY unstable
[07:05] <maccam94> back to ca1
[07:05] <maccam94> um
[07:05] <astro76> Kousotu, ahh.... yeah 4 is out in a few days
[07:05] <maccam94> really?
[07:05] <maccam94> sweet
[07:05] <maccam94> um
[07:05] <moj1>  so, any idea what I can do towards troubleshooting my boot problem?
[07:06] <astro76> moj1, what is it?
[07:06] <moj1> my thinkpad t20 hangs right after "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision 3.20"
[07:06] <moj1> or right after hdd init if the cd-rom is removed
[07:07] <moj1> can still do alt+ctrl+delete but it doesn't ever want to proceed past that point for some reason =/
[07:07] <ca1> maccam94:  any ideas?
[07:07] <jpowermacg4> guess i'll just reinstall.. and this time install the kernel before removing the old one first... lol.. which is what i was supposed to have did.. lol
[07:08] <maccam94> ca1: yes
[07:08] <astro76> !automatix
[07:08] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:09] <astro76> ca1, probably reinstall, yeah :/
[07:09] <maccam94> astro76: i'm just gonna have him install azureus from the repo's
[07:09] <maccam94> and actually it's probably not necessary to reinstall
[07:09] <astro76> good luck ;)
[07:09] <ca1> so what should I do?
[07:09] <NETWizz> I wish to create my own repository
[07:09] <maccam94> all he needs to do is change the software listing in software sources from edgy to feisty
[07:10] <astro76> ca1, try what maccam94 suggests
[07:10] <maccam94> ca1: go to system, adminstration, software sources
[07:10] <maccam94> go to third party software
[07:10] <ca1> ok
[07:10] <maccam94> click on the getautomatix entry
[07:10] <maccam94> click edit
[07:11] <maccam94> change distribution from edgy to feisty
[07:11] <maccam94> hit ok
[07:11] <maccam94> check that entry now
[07:11] <ca1> okay
[07:11] <ca1> now what?
[07:11] <maccam94> hit ok
[07:11] <ca1> close?
[07:11] <maccam94> yup
[07:11] <maccam94> open up system admin synaptic
[07:12] <maccam94> hit reload
[07:12] <shaun> ubuntu did not recognize my sound card on install, is there a way i can force this?
[07:12] <ca1> told me tom reload when I closed
[07:12] <ca1> im reloading.
[07:12] <maccam94> ca1: ok, mark all upgrades. is apply now an option?
[07:12] <Reilithion> *sigh* in addition, it seems some screen savers were using OpenGL and they caused a crash as well just now.
[07:13] <maccam94> shaun: yes
[07:13] <maccam94> but i'm busy and then going to bed :-(
[07:13] <Reilithion> Are there configuration files I should check or something?
[07:13] <ca1> maccam94:  could not download all repository indexes
[07:13] <ca1> maccam94:  http://soulmachine.net/breezy/unstable/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[07:14] <chikita> hi, i cant download anything from nicotine plus, what can i do?
[07:14] <maccam94> ca1: that's fine for now
[07:14] <maccam94> ca1: ok, mark all upgrades. is apply now an option?
[07:14] <ce_ce_15> surabaya
[07:14] <ca1> maccam94:  gksudo synaptic?
[07:14] <bulmer> jpowermacg4: did you copy the Sstem.map to /boot during install too?
[07:15] <avarner> hey whats the bot command for gutsy?
[07:15] <maccam94> ca1: sure, if it isn't open. or system -> administration -> synaptic
[07:15] <maccam94> !gutsy
[07:15] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:15] <maccam94> ?
[07:15] <ca1> maccam94:  okay I did. I clicked mark all upgrades. apply isn't an option
[07:15] <maccam94> ok
[07:16] <maccam94> ca1: on the bottom left side, you should see a button that says origin
[07:16] <maccam94> click onit
[07:16] <maccam94> and click the getautomatix on the left panel
[07:16] <whiteboyadfdf> SCRIM NEEDED 5v5
[07:16] <whiteboyadfdf> css or 1.6
[07:17] <maccam94> css ftrw
[07:17] <maccam94> *ftw
[07:17] <whiteboyadfdf> 192.325.328.238:27015
[07:17] <bex> i'm having a problem with x server restarting on its own
[07:17] <whiteboyadfdf> CAL IM ONLY PLEASE
[07:17] <maccam94> too bad i'm on a cruddy ubuntu laptop
[07:17] <chikita> hi, i cant download anything from nicotine plus, what can i do?
[07:17] <bex> can anyone help?
[07:17] <whiteboyadfdf> SCRIM NEEDED 5v5
[07:17] <whiteboyadfdf> css or 1.6
[07:17] <whiteboyadfdf> CAL IM ONLY PLEASE
[07:17] <ca1> maccam94:  I don't see anything on the left panel mentioning getautomatix
[07:17] <astro76> !repeat | whiteboyadfdf
[07:17] <ubotu> whiteboyadfdf: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:17] <maccam94> ca1: after clicking origin?
[07:17] <whiteboyadfdf> SCRIM NEEDED 5v5 css or 1.6
[07:17] <whiteboyadfdf> sry
[07:17] <kankraka> haha, it seems like 10000 people have the same idea as i do..
[07:18] <ca1> maccam94:  yeah
[07:18] <whiteboyadfdf> wtf is a ubuntu
[07:18] <defcon> when I install wine applications I dont get a wine menu
[07:18] <defcon> how do I fix this
[07:18] <whiteboyadfdf> where is cs scrim channel?
[07:18] <maccam94> whiteboyadfdf: linux
[07:18] <bex> i'm getting  a signall 11
[07:18] <sauvin> wtf is scrim?
[07:18] <maccam94> gaming lingo
[07:18] <maccam94> scrimmage
[07:18] <whiteboyadfdf> linux? nigga i need some counter-strike scrimmin
[07:18] <defcon> I used to have a wine menu and it updated, not anymore after I removed wine and reinstalled it
[07:18] <maccam94> whiteboyadfdf: check #cedega
[07:19] <kankraka> ubuntu 7.0.4, tried to install a driver for my stupid broadcom card using ndiswrapper, long story short.. it didn't work
[07:19] <whiteboyadfdf> not any that non-gaming non-userfriendly bull
[07:19] <whiteboyadfdf> k thanks
[07:19] <sauvin> My broadcom wireless doesn't seem to be very well supported either :\
[07:19] <maccam94> ca1: you sure you checked off the getautomatix repository and not the breezy one?
[07:19] <Helmi> hmm my gedit crashes when loading some special files for a few days now.
[07:19] <Helmi> anyone with an idea how to come closer to a solution?
[07:19] <sauvin> Does anybody know what an .ape file is?
[07:20] <Kousotu> lol
[07:20] <Wolfwalker> I'm looking into this aircard from Cingular or Verizon. How well does Ubuntu handle these cellphone internet cards?
[07:20] <astro76> Helmi, some special files?
[07:20] <bex> can someone help me?  when i try to lock my screen or put on a screensaver, x server crashes.  my xorg log says something about a signal 11.  can anyone help?
[07:20] <Wolfwalker> an .ape file is an audio compression.
[07:20] <maccam94> sauvin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey's_Audio
[07:20] <ca1> maccam94:  what are you talking about?
[07:20] <maccam94> ca1: open up settings -> repositories
[07:20] <sauvin> Mmkay...
[07:20] <Sonicadvance1> Is there a way to make the window list to have a max size on it's window selectors?
[07:20] <Helmi> astro76, yeah it doesn't crash on every file just on some
[07:21] <ca1> maccam94:  ok
[07:21] <maccam94> ca1: and make sure under third party you have getautomatix.com checked
[07:21] <kankraka> sauvin, i tried this howto for 5.x, but.. it's left me nowhere, i'd use linux constantly if it wasn't for this card :|
[07:21] <Helmi> astro76, in the current case it crashes when i open a style sheet of my current project - looks like it crashes while doing the syntax highlighting stuff
[07:21] <ca1> maccam94:  miss that. Doing it now.
[07:22] <File13> if im trying to unzip multiple zip parts into one thing how do i do that on ubuntu
[07:22] <ca1> maccam94:  I got an error want to see the pastebin?
[07:22] <sauvin> According to that wiki, what I get is: "avoid .ape files".
[07:22] <File13> do i have to get a certain program, because i cant seem to do it by default here
[07:22] <Wolfwalker> Hey!
[07:22] <maccam94> ca1: did it say unauthenticated?
[07:22] <Wolfwalker> monkeys audio isn't all that bad
[07:23] <buntu> anyone know how to change the Ubuntu Applications icon with that nifty little Gnome foot?
[07:23] <Wolfwalker> sauvin, get dbpoweramp and the ape plugin for it. It'll decode it to wav. It runs in wine.
[07:23] <sauvin> I've never tried to use unix tools to unzip multipart zip files... moment while I scan a doc or two...
[07:23] <sauvin> I've been avoiding wine.
[07:23] <Wolfwalker> I'm looking into this aircard from Cingular or Verizon. How well does Ubuntu handle these cellphone internet cards?
[07:23] <maccam94> Wolfwalker: works for some, depends on the chipset
[07:24] <Wolfwalker> |sauvin:| why avoid wine? It works.
[07:24] <buntu> it works well
[07:24] <buntu> playing wow on it now
[07:24] <astro76> Helmi, try checking launchpad or ubuntuforums to see if anyone has the same problem, if not maybe report it to launchpad, also see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[07:24] <ca1> maccam94:  no
[07:24] <Wolfwalker> My chipset is a Gateway MX3701
[07:25] <LaserLine> I just installed a brand new second IDE hard drive and bios detects it, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to see it.  I'm assumming it's because I need to format it.  How can I accomplish this in Ubuntu 7.04?
[07:25] <Gnea> LaserLine: did you check dmesg?
[07:25] <ca1> maccam94:  same error I mentioned before and some verificiation code thingy
[07:25] <Flannel> LaserLine: gparted will let you partition it, and then you'll have to edit your fstab to mount it whereever you want
[07:25] <taime> how do i tell ubuntu to load a module for soundblaster at startup?
[07:25] <LaserLine> Gnea: I'm no expert.  What's dmesg?
[07:26] <astro76> !partition | LaserLine
[07:26] <ubotu> LaserLine: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:26] <Gnea> LaserLine: a command that tells you all of the kernel messages
[07:26] <Gnea> LaserLine: if a piece of hardware is detected, dmesg will tell you about it
[07:26] <jamin> I need to get higher resolutions, but it only gives me the choice of 1025x768. is there fix for this?
[07:26] <maccam94> ca1: the verification error is a warning, and doesn't stop you from installing things. you shouldn't need to worry about it for the time being
[07:26] <sauvin> Because using wine means using MS crap. File13, the docs for unzip dont' mention multipart ANYTHING :(
[07:27] <astro76> !resolution | jamin
[07:27] <ubotu> jamin: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:27] <maccam94> ca1: now try finding getautomatix in the left panel in origin
[07:27] <File13> :-o
[07:27] <File13> there has to be a way!
[07:27] <alieas> Hi, I did apt-get install proftpd, but I receive "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection".  I set these up before no problems... and I've been reading the forums for over an hour - No Idea what could be causing this.... any suggestions?
[07:27] <ca1> maccam94:  not sure if this is any significance but my update manager has automatix2 in it just now.
[07:27] <maccam94> good
[07:27] <maccam94> upgrade it
[07:27] <Wolfwalker> sauvin, the MS crap in question is freeware. dBpowerAMP doth totally rock, it's free and it will get your .ape file into something you can listen to.
[07:28] <jamin> ubotu: thanks
[07:28] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:28] <Wolfwalker> Or you could just use soundkonvertor.
[07:28] <Wolfwalker> !botsnack
[07:28] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:28] <Wolfwalker> Someone been messing with the bot again........
[07:28] <sauvin> Soundkonverter ::scribble:: Or I can just find the same file in another format.
[07:28] <Gnea> alieas: apt-get install proftpd-doc and read /usr/share/doc/proftpd-doc/*
[07:28] <Wolfwalker> Or you could just find the same file in another format, if you want to do it the hard way, sure.
[07:29] <ca1> maccam94:  I had to close the synaptic to upgrade so give it some time
[07:29] <sauvin> I have precisely 4 .ape files in this mess, and nearly a thousand in other formats. I'm sure it'd be easier either to find alternative format files, or just ditch them :D
[07:29] <maccam94> File13: try apt-get install unp
[07:29] <maccam94> supposed to handle multiple archive files
[07:30] <Wolfwalker> As a registered, card carrying music nut, I of course already have said music convertor programs. I guess for normal people it might be more trouble than it's worth though to learn the interface just for a couple of songs.
[07:30] <BwR> How do i initiate install if x is unable to detect my screen and aborts becouse of that?
[07:30] <slestak> BwR: get the alternate isntall cd, it has a text mode installer
[07:31] <maccam94> BwR: you want to install ubuntu without a gui? you need the alternate install cd
[07:31] <sauvin> Yup. Frankly, if mplayer can't already handle it, I probably don't want to mess with it :)
[07:31] <BwR> no i want it to work
[07:31] <Wolfwalker> mplayer doesn't run .ape files?
[07:31] <BwR> with graphics and everthing
[07:31] <Wolfwalker> Get the ape library, duh
[07:31] <sauvin> Not that I'm able to tell. There's probably a codec to download somewhere, but I'm too lazy to find it.
[07:31] <slestak> BwR: thats actually my preferred install cd.  it will after you get system installed and can install a better ati vodeo driver.
[07:31] <Wolfwalker> Oh
[07:31] <Digitalspy> hey guys, whats the better system monitor for ubuntu feisty? one that doesnt consume much RAM
[07:32] <sauvin> Theory is, if mplayer can't deal with it, it's a *problem*. Mplayer plays things that other things just won't touch.
[07:32] <Wolfwalker> Well yeah. Laziness I can't advise on, as I am also lazy in many areas. If you ever find a way around it, let me know willya?
[07:32] <slestak> BwR: nvidia and intel users can use the livecd, but most every ati machine i have fails using the livecd
[07:32] <warnet12> marang
[07:32] <sauvin> LOL.
[07:32] <astro76> BwR, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall
[07:32] <maccam94> mplayer and vlc. if they don't play it, it's not an a/v file
[07:32] <BwR> slestak ok, but i don't have one :(
[07:32] <sauvin> Just for giggles, though.... there's a libape in the synaptics repos?
[07:32] <slestak> BwR: what video card to you have?
[07:32] <maccam94> BwR: have you tried booting the cd in safe graphics mode?
[07:33] <Wolfwalker> Prolly. monkeys audio is fairly common.
[07:33] <jamin> im trying to do a X reconfigure and it is asking for X server driver. i have intel onboard video.
[07:33] <BwR> i just booted it in safe mode and it don't work
[07:33] <Wolfwalker> But if one frame is messed up, just ONE, the whole file comes up as bad. I use FLAC for lossless compression, it's far more forgiving.
[07:33] <BwR> ive got an 1650pro. ati igp
[07:34] <xenoie> bwr: do you have ubuntu installed?
[07:34] <Digitalspy> the best system monitor? that doesn consume much RAM?
[07:34] <Digitalspy> gdesklets?
[07:34] <Wolfwalker> !fluxubuntu Digitalspy
[07:34] <xenoie> bwr: or you are trying to, sorry i just caught this in the middle
[07:35] <sauvin> No, there isn't. I searched on libape and on monkey. No joy.
[07:35] <Wolfwalker> !fluxubuntu
[07:35] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[07:35] <BwR> Trying to install
[07:35] <Wolfwalker> Okay, I forgot the syntax
[07:35] <sauvin> Psheah. Ubuntu makes Fedora Core look like it's running backwards. In fact, Ubuntu makes MOST things look slow.
[07:35] <Wolfwalker> !Digitalspy fluxubuntu
[07:35] <jamin> im configuring xserver-xorg and it is asking for me to select a video card driver for the X server. I dont see mine on there. What should i do?
[07:35] <xenoie> bwr: are you having issues with the live CD?
[07:35] <Digitalspy> fluxubuntu? looks interesting
[07:36] <BwR> yes and i will not be able to download the alternate cd
[07:36] <xenoie> bwr: I personally had issues with the live cd/installer and had to install via text.
[07:36] <xenoie> bwr: why can you not download it?
[07:37] <BwR> its an pal of mine that needs help and doesent have an connection there
[07:37] <BwR> he has an console
[07:37] <Flannel> BwR: so, download it here
[07:37] <BwR> wich works
[07:38] <thirst> hi everyone... i was going to install ubuntu7.04 on a system with no net access. What all .debs shud I download and burn on to cd beforehand to get mplayer/xine/winamp-mp3 to work well. Is there any doc on this already.
[07:38] <BwR> hes to far away for me to give him the text cd
[07:38] <maccam94> ca1: after automatix2 installs, use it to install azureus (or reinstall it if it has the option). automatix2 is located in applications -> system tools
[07:38] <JFr3ak> hi everybody, can somebody suggest to me a good game please xS
[07:38] <xenoie> bwr: if you install via text the CD should include the ubuntu-desktop packages
[07:38] <maccam94> JFr3ak: nexuiz
[07:38] <zewey> JFr3ak: Battle for Wesnoth
[07:38] <JFr3ak> thks
[07:38] <BwR> and the real cd doesen't ????
[07:38] <maccam94> JFr3ak: nexuiz is a first person shooter like quake
[07:39] <ca1> maccam94:  during the update I got errors involving sun-java5 and 6 docs
[07:39] <JFr3ak> do you know somethig like need 4 speed or fifa soccer?
[07:39] <xenoie> bwr: the live CD/intaller should have both, the alternate CD has them as well, if you are having issues installing via the live GUI based install CD
[07:39] <sauvin> If all you're worried about is mplayer, don't. I believe mplayer is already included in the base ubuntu install. What you'll need to do is bop over to the mplayer home page and grab all the codecs. After installing ubuntu, copy the codecs to a directory somewhere in /usr, I forget where.
[07:40] <BwR> all i need to do is tell him to do to get the ati drivers installed, the sata drivers and how to initiate an install after that
[07:40] <maccam94> ca1: did it stop things from installing?
[07:40] <ca1> maccam94:  not to my knowledge. anyways I'm back to synaptic and see three things on the left panel involving getautomatix
[07:41] <alieas> Gnea:  These docs are horrendous.    I've never had a problem like this before, is there any other kind of solution?  Could I be missing an auth package or something?  I desperatly need to access my code on this server, I'm SSH'ed in
[07:41] <thirst> sauvin:  thanks. is gmplayer also included ?
[07:41] <maccam94> ca1: did you install automatix2?
[07:41] <xenoie> bwr: those devices are not supported by the kernel on the install CD?
[07:41] <ca1> maccam94:  think so.
[07:41] <sauvin> I can't be certain of this, but yes, I believe so.
[07:41] <maccam94> ca1: close synaptic and open automatix in applications -> system tools
[07:41] <BwR> not natively
[07:41] <sauvin> Can anybody confirm that gmplayer is included with a basic ubuntu install?
[07:41] <ca1> okay
[07:42] <ca1> working
[07:42] <ca1> maccam94:  working*
[07:42] <maccam94> sauvin: yes
[07:42] <maccam94> er
[07:42] <maccam94> i think
[07:42] <astro76> sauvin, it is not
[07:42] <maccam94> sorry that is totally useless
[07:42] <sauvin> Grrr. Thirst, did you say a livecd install is a problem?
[07:42] <sauvin> I could have sworn mplayer was included.
[07:43] <maccam94> sauvin: me too...
[07:43] <Don> hello everyone
[07:43] <ca1> hi
[07:43] <Flannel> sauvin: It is not
[07:43] <ca1> maccam94:  it's opened. waiting for you.
[07:43] <Flannel> !automatix | maccam94, ca1
[07:43] <ubotu> maccam94, ca1: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:44] <kuitang> !WorksForMe
[07:44] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:44] <xenoie> bwr: what kind of system is this?
[07:44] <maccam94> Flannel: I KNOW
[07:44] <ca1> Okay, and what should I do about all that info?
[07:44] <Flannel> ca1: Don't use automatix
[07:45] <maccam94> Flannel: please don't interfere, long story
[07:45] <xenoie> bwr: are these onboard chips, (sata, vid, etc?)
[07:45] <ca1> What was all that automatix trouble for then?
[07:45] <maccam94> ca1: go to file sharing, and install azureus
[07:45] <sauvin> Thirst, I apologise. I can't find mplayer on my livecd.
[07:45] <BwR> Its an laptop Fujitsusiemens amilo M 1437G
[07:45] <maccam94> ca1: there are occasionally issues with automatix, but since you already had it i'm going to utilize it
[07:46] <Don> quit good night
[07:46] <crypto> can someone tell what is wrong with this crontab line? 1 * * * * my_command. I find that it only executes this command every hour. I thought this shd execute every min. Can someone explain?
[07:46] <ca1> maccam94:  it wants me to "no" + return, do I do it?
[07:46] <kuitang> crypto: 1 means execute on the first minute of every hour
[07:47] <crypto> oh i c
[07:47] <maccam94> ca1: what does it mean no?
[07:47] <crypto> kuitang: in that case it is working as expected. thanks :)
[07:47] <kuitang> crypto: If you need finer granuality, read the crontab manpage
[07:47] <alieas> Is there something new in Feisty that would stop me from FTP'ing into my box?   I don't have desktop only SSH.   This 421 Error is driving me crazy.
[07:48] <crypto> kuitang: been reading that. need to play around bit more. thank u
[07:48] <Flannel> alieas: SSH isn't FTP.  That'd be why
[07:48] <LaserLine> ok so I partitioned my new second hard drive using gpartition.  What is the easiest way to mount my new hard drive and how do I do it?
[07:48] <alieas> Flannel:  I'm saying I don't have GUI access to configure it, only SSH
[07:48] <alieas> Flannel:  I've been through the .conf file over and over
[07:48] <alieas> Flannel:  Iptables not blocking
[07:48] <alieas> wtf
[07:49] <maccam94> it's 2 am here >_<
[07:49] <alieas> damn protocol is 25 years old and implementation is this weak ?
[07:49] <maccam94> ca1: you there?
[07:49] <ca1> maccam94:  says it is an installer package not containing the actual JDK documentation. Download one from "jdk-6-doc.zip jdk-6-dock-ja.zip" and to vivist the site now and download
[07:49] <maccam94> ca1: does it halt the installation?
[07:49] <ca1> yeah
[07:50] <ca1> It halts until I make a decision
[07:50] <maccam94> oh, hit no
[07:50] <ca1> ok
[07:50] <ca1> did it again
[07:50] <ca1> no and continue again?
[07:51] <maccam94> yes
[07:51] <maccam94> er
[07:51] <maccam94> hit no
[07:51] <maccam94> and continue
[07:51] <astro76> crypto, that's the 1st minute of every hour, you want all * for every minute
[07:51] <ca1> maccam94:  "FATAL ERROR: Azureus An apt-based error occurred and installation was unsuccessful"
[07:52] <maccam94> ca1: i call uncle. close azureus, open up synaptic, and install the azureus listed in there. if it asks to download the java docs just say yes
[07:52] <maccam94> i don't mean close azureus
[07:52] <maccam94> i meant close automatix
[07:52] <ca1> okay
[07:52] <sauvin> What *is* automatix?
[07:53] <astro76> !automatix
[07:53] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:53] <maccam94> sauvin: it's a utility that automagically installs stuff. i've never had problems with it, but i've hear horror stories
[07:53] <maccam94> *heard
[07:53] <Flannel> sauvin: it's a bad idea.  Breaks systems, does stupid things
[07:53] <astro76> ca1, this is the problem with automatix and why we don't support systems that have used it here, this is such a horrid waste of time, azureus is in the ubuntu repos, this is all easy stuff without automatix
[07:54] <xenoie> !automatix
[07:54] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:54] <sauvin> Pfeah. I'm still a "download/less README/make/make test/make install" kind of weenie. Don't want no damned "automatic install" garbage if it isn't Synaptics.
[07:54] <alieas> It doesn't even say anything in /var/log/proftpd !   wtf!  no logging on a "421" denied error ??????  how is that even possible that it errors and doesn't log ?
[07:54] <xenoie> I had issues after using automatix in tests
[07:55] <ca1> maccam94:  so mark for reinstallation? Or remove completely then install?
[07:55] <Flannel> sauvin: Well, you shouldn't use make either, use something like checkinstall, so that it's foreward compatable with package management
[07:55] <alieas> Seriously out of everybody here no one has had a "421" problem with ftp servers???
[07:55] <xenoie> depending on what you install it can cause various problems
[07:55] <sauvin> Flannel, I fully understand that (Fedora Core folks have the same warning to make); somebody in HERE warned me to install home-built stuff into /var.
[07:55] <tulga> howto customize openoffice on my ubuntu box? where is theme files?
[07:55] <xenoie> alieas: You are getting a 421 error when connecting to ftp servers or...?
[07:56] <Flannel> sauvin: /var?    They go in /usr/local/
[07:56] <sauvin> Flannel, that's what I'd thought, too, until I noticed synaptics putting stuff there.
[07:56] <Flannel> !nickspam > AutumnCat
[07:56] <maccam94> ca1: mark for reinstallation
[07:56] <alieas> xenoie: I installed pro-ftpd on a server, and I can't connec to localhost
[07:56] <alieas> proftpd*
[07:56] <Flannel> sauvin: What packages are put in /usr/local?  Sounds like a packaging error
[07:56] <sauvin> (or was that /opt? I forget... it's bookmarked...)
[07:57] <sauvin> Let me look.
[07:57] <astro76> sauvin, home built stuff is supposed to go in /usr/local, /opt is for large statically linked software packages (e.g. GoogleEarth)
[07:57] <sauvin> GNUstep, hugs98, ocaml, pike, python 2.4, python 2.5, R, scsh-0.6, site_ruby and yorick.
[07:58] <xenoie> alieas: did you install as standalone or identd?
[07:59] <xenoie> inetd*
[07:59] <alieas> xenoie:  inetd, but I have tried both in the .conf file
[07:59] <sauvin> Flannel: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[07:59] <sauvin> so far, ubuntu has made it UNNECESSARY for me to build anything.
[07:59] <Flannel> sauvin: yorick doesn't put anything in /usr/local, nor does scsh-0.6
[07:59] <alieas> xenoie:  I then install xinetd, which didn't do anything
[08:00] <sauvin> Flannel, I used synaptics to install them. I'm looking right AT /usr/local/lib.
[08:00] <xenoie> alieas: look in /etc/init.d/ for xinetd
[08:00] <Flannel> sauvin: this is feisty?
[08:00] <Shinma> hi.... my system beep is being routed to my headphones (onboard Intel HD chipset) while my music and everything else comes through my soundblaster card (Audigy2), how can i make sure all sound is routed through my Audigy2 ?
[08:00] <alieas> xenoie: yes, exists
[08:00] <sauvin> Flannel, yes. There are also craploads of things in /usr/local/share.
[08:00] <xenoie> if it's there then sudo /etc/init.d/xinetd restart
[08:01] <Slart> Shinma: system beep is weird... I have the same problem.. haven't found an answer yet
[08:01] <Flannel> sauvin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=yorick&version=feisty&arch=i386
[08:01] <Flannel> sauvin: Nothing.  You must have something else going on
[08:01] <alieas> xenoie: if I try to execute xinetd it says its not installed, I removed the package
[08:01] <xenoie> try to connect via ftp to localhost or just telnet localhost 21
[08:01] <sauvin> That's certainly possible, but I'm telling you, I've never used anything but the synaptics package manager to install anything.
[08:01] <xenoie> alieas: you need that package installed if you installed proftpd to run under inetd
[08:02] <xenoie> otherwise install it as standalone
[08:02] <astro76> Shinma, seems to be annoying anyway you look at it, mine comes out of the pc speaker, and I always turn it off in sound preferences
[08:02] <xenoie> !inetd
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <xenoie> !xinetd
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <xenoie> boo bot
[08:02] <alieas> xenoie:  I install it and run and then it says it can't start in either indetd or standalone mode
[08:02] <sauvin> Well, that's not 100% true. I installed the mplayer codecs manually by just downloading them and copying them to a directory somewhere in /usr/lib.
[08:02] <Shinma> astro76 yeah that's a good point
[08:02] <AutumnCat> !nickspam AutumnCat
[08:02] <] RandoM[> is there a package for xwinwrap that's for amd64?
[08:02] <Flannel> sauvin: right, but the packages installed via synaptic shouldn't be putting them there, and that is the correct place for you to put your compiled things
[08:03] <jam1n> i just did an x server config, but it crashed my x and now i cant even get back to the x. help
[08:03] <sauvin> Something odd is going on.
[08:03] <alieas> xenoie:  oh thank god, ok - dpkg-reconfigure proftpd -> standalone, and installed xinetd and its accepting connections
[08:03] <alieas> whew
[08:03] <xenoie> alieas: there you go :)
[08:03] <alieas> xenoie:  much appreciated
[08:04] <xenoie> anytime
[08:04] <ca1> well I reinstalled and it still does the same thing argh.
[08:04] <alieas> xenoie:  I'm on a tough time schedule.. sorry for the brashness
[08:04] <sauvin> Under Fedora Core 6, which is similarly maintained almost exclusively through yum, there is virtually nothing in the /usr/local hierarchy.
[08:04] <ca1> I'll leave it for another time, bye.
[08:04] <xenoie> alieas: xinetd is basically a service that runs to detect connections on a port and runs a deamon on the fly to accept the connections according to the configuration you have for it
[08:05] <sauvin> so, I think I agree with you, something odd is going on. Feisty's package manager put stuff in /usr/local.
[08:05] <Flannel> sauvin: and under normal ubuntu, /usr/local is devoid as well, as expected
[08:05] <xenoie> by running standalone you tell the FTP server to run it's own service to handle those connections
[08:05] <astro76> sauvin, that would be surprising, what package? do dpkg -S on one of the files
[08:05] <jam1n> i just did an x server config, but it crashed my x and now i cant even get back to the x. help
[08:06] <sauvin> Moment.
[08:06] <co_jomblo> jljg;
[08:07] <xenoie> jam1n: are you console savy?
[08:07] <sauvin> Huh.
[08:07] <alieas> xenoie:  I must usually select standalone, but selected inetd this time for some reason.  I'll just make sure to always select "standalone" for now on.  I didn't think dpkg-recongiure would do anything because I changed the .conf file to "standalone" and that didn't work
[08:07] <astro76> sauvin, you're right, but it's only directories
[08:07] <kRush> what is it with the crappy font rendering in firefox?
[08:07] <sauvin> Flannel, astro, I may have not looked deeply enough. You're right, it's just DIRECTORIES.
[08:08] <sauvin> The only actual FILES I can find are the codecs I put there manually.
[08:08] <alieas> kRush:  the ubuntuguide.org tells you how to install the sub-pixel font packages
[08:08] <xenoie> alieas: xinetd does have it's benifits. You should look it up to see if it suits your neeeds :)
[08:09] <kRush> i'll have a look right away
[08:09] <astro76> sauvin, the directories that packages put there all seem to make sense... things that could be customized per local machine (traditionally /usr is often a network mount)
[08:10] <sauvin> Yup.
[08:10] <sauvin> They're collection points for local data and suchlike.
[08:10] <will2003_> rver
[08:10] <will2003_> :|
[08:10] <sauvin> OK, that makes me feel better. If I have to build something on ubuntu, I can just use /usr/local as per my custom.
[08:11] <xenoie> sauvin: are you building from source?
[08:12] <co_jomblo> hdhdh
[08:14] <xenoie> sauvin: I always keep my source compiles in /usr/src and install to /usr/local/. I'm just weird like that :)
[08:16] <untung> hello
[08:16] <untung> does ubuntu support dual screens?
[08:16] <Gnea> i'm trying to use genisoimage to create an .iso that i can burn to a DVD to backup files with, but it says that a 8.1gig .tar.bz2 file is too large.  i read the manpage but it's not very helpful
[08:16] <Gnea> untung: yes
[08:17] <astro76> !dualmonitor | untung
[08:17] <ubotu> untung: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:17] <untung> i have a video card with dual vga port. i hook it up and both screen shows the same screen
[08:17] <Gnea> !xinerama | untung
[08:17] <ubotu> untung: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[08:17] <xenoie> untung: yes it does, depending on your vid card
[08:18] <untung> how to setup desktop to expand to dual screen?
[08:18] <John_Doe5698> I want to crash a laptop.. Hardware's side.. How ?
[08:18] <Gnea> untung: ubotu just gave you the URL that explains it
[08:18] <krammer> hi
[08:18] <bobon1100> John_Doe5698, why?
[08:18] <krammer> i could use some help
[08:18] <xenoie> untung: what type of video card do you have?
[08:18] <sauvin> Xenoie, I don't usually build from source unless there's no .deb (in ubuntu) or .rpm (in FC) to install.
[08:18] <bobon1100> krammer, helps to ask first
[08:19] <sauvin> But I like to keep in mind what's advisable and what isn't for those times when there wouldn't be (like, maybe, something that hasn't been maintained in a while)
[08:19] <xenoie> sauvin: That's always good practice :)
[08:19] <bobon1100> krammer, interesting, we are in the same state
[08:19] <xenoie> sauvin: sometimes you have to though :(
[08:19] <sauvin> Yup.
[08:19] <John_Doe5698> bobon1100, because I'm tired and the shop where I bought this laptop is bull shit..
[08:19] <sauvin> The UNIX world is ////big////.
[08:19] <krammer> i am showing failed to start the x sever
[08:20] <xenoie> krammer: What did you do...or did it ever start for you?
[08:20] <bobon1100> John_Doe5698, ok so you want to crash the laptop and accomplish what? what is the end goal
[08:20] <bobon1100> krammer: can you get to command prompt?
[08:20] <krammer> no
[08:20] <krammer> yes
[08:21] <krammer> it goes in to I guess the terminal
[08:21] <xenoie> no, yes, which one?
[08:21] <bobon1100> krammer: ok, does it have internet access?
[08:21] <untung> xenoie: I have matrox g45+
[08:21] <xenoie> krammer: lets start with "did X ever load for you?"
[08:21] <krammer> i guess i have to config file /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[08:21] <John_Doe5698> bobon1100, to obtain my cash...
[08:22] <krammer> x server is disabled restart gdm when it is configured corrct;uy
[08:22] <bobsomebody> John_Doe5698, perhaps I can help you fix your problem instead?
[08:22] <krammer> no internet
[08:22] <xenoie> krammer: no net on the box?
[08:23] <John_Doe5698> bobsomebody, its hardware.. so
[08:23] <John_Doe5698> bobsomebody, I want to crash it more
[08:23] <krammer> im on my desktop and my laptop is the one with that problem
[08:23] <xenoie> krammer: ok
[08:23] <bobsomebody> John_Doe5698, hardware failure? or hardware issues?
[08:23] <xenoie> krammer: are you console savy?
[08:23] <krammer> no
[08:23] <xenoie> krammer: ok
[08:23] <xenoie> krammer: what is on your screen at the moment?
[08:23] <bobsomebody> krammer: do this, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:23] <krammer> its asking me to login
[08:24] <bobsomebody> oh, lol
[08:24] <bobsomebody> login
[08:24] <Gnea> i'm trying to use genisoimage to create an .iso that i can burn to a DVD to backup files with, but it says that a 8.1gig .tar.bz2 file is too large.  i read the manpage but it's not very helpful
[08:24] <xenoie> yeah
[08:24] <bobsomebody> w/ your regular username and password
[08:24] <krammer> im there
[08:24] <krammer> done
[08:24] <bobsomebody> now run that command
[08:24] <bobsomebody> krammer: do this, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:24] <bobsomebody> and give it your password
[08:24] <bobsomebody> you will not see the letters or *'s when you type, so dont panic its normal
[08:25] <xenoie> he is not console savy, you expect him to edit an xorg.conf?
[08:25] <astro76> Gnea, max file size is 2GB
[08:25] <krammer> ok there
[08:25] <bobsomebody> xenoie, i can walk him through it
[08:25] <bobsomebody> krammer, now, what did you do to cause xwin to fail?
[08:25] <astro76> Gnea, err unless you use UDF
[08:25] <bobsomebody> did you install something? take something apart? spill something?
[08:25] <xenoie> bobsomebody: sexy then, have at it ;)
[08:25] <Gnea> astro76: not acceptable, there's a way around it, otherwise dual-layer and blu-ray wouldn't be supported. and yes, i tried UDF.
[08:25] <Jaikkanen> xenoie: haha, everyone has gotta try it SOME time.. arent most people thrown into the deep end when starting with linux?
[08:26] <Jaikkanen> i know i was
[08:26] <bobsomebody> xenoie, its always nice to have someone hold your hand the first time around :P
[08:26] <bobsomebody> and take it slow
[08:26] <xenoie> Jaikkanen: Yep, you have to learn at some point if you want to learn at all :)
[08:26] <Gnea> genisoimage -dvd-compat -udf -o file.iso dir/  <--- doesn't work
[08:26] <bobsomebody> and easy
[08:26] <bobsomebody> haha
[08:26] <krammer> i was typing to enable destop effects
[08:26] <bobsomebody> ok....
[08:26] <krammer> i did mess with the cofig
[08:27] <bobsomebody> undo the changes
[08:27] <bobsomebody> in the screen you are in
[08:27] <Jaikkanen> oh my it was a screaming horror.. 2 days of searching through forums, 1 problem would lead to 3 more problems.. more things to download.. more things to learn.. haha good times
[08:27] <krammer> that was I think caused this probem
[08:27] <bobsomebody> krammer, probably, and usually
[08:27] <bobsomebody> :)
[08:27] <xenoie> krammer: OMG YOU EDITED THE CONFIG DO YOU KNOW HOW BAD YOU HAVE BEEN *SPANK* just kidding ;)
[08:27] <krammer> buyt im at the file what should I do next
[08:27] <stuart-> what's a good audio burning program? serpentine is kinda slow
[08:27] <bobsomebody> krammer, undo the edits you did
[08:28] <krammer> ive been through worse
[08:28] <krammer> i was using suse 10.1 & 10.2
[08:28] <bobsomebody> krammer, what every you changed caused the problem, so you just undo that
[08:28] <B123> can someone help me install a plugin with avant window navigator?
[08:28] <krammer> but I do not know how
[08:28] <bobsomebody> you dont know how to edit the file?
[08:28] <krammer> i only been the os now for a month
[08:28] <Gnea> stuart-: k3b
[08:28] <bobsomebody> hit the arrow keys
[08:28] <krammer> ok
[08:28] <bobsomebody> type stuff in
[08:29] <krammer> where should i place the cursor
[08:29] <bobsomebody> nano is a text editor for prompt shell environtments
[08:29] <B123> anyone help me with avant!!
[08:29] <B123> =(
[08:29] <bobsomebody> krammer, what did you change in the xorg.conf?
[08:29] <krammer> i was getting an errror when i clicked on the destop effects
[08:29] <krammer> so i google it
[08:29] <astro76> Gnea, according to the manpage, udf support is in alpha status, and is not possible to make udf only images, the structures are coupled to joliet
[08:29] <bobsomebody> \o/ beryl works on Dell Inspiron 1100's intel chipset
[08:30] <astro76> Gnea, in genisoimage
[08:30] <xenoie> krammer: oh no the google :P
[08:30] <bobsomebody> hehe now i can look cool at the cafe :P
[08:30] <krammer> what should i do now
[08:30] <tictacaddict> I just installed Ubuntu on an old dell with an ati graphics chipset, and I can't get the resolution set to the native 1024x768.  xorg.conf has only 1024x768 listed, but the screen resolution program in gnome shows options for 800x600 and 640x480.  What else can I try?
[08:30] <bobsomebody> krammer, yes i know, you said you edited xorg.conf right?
[08:30] <Gnea> astro76: hrm, looks like i'll need to use dd
[08:30] <krammer> before this problem
[08:30] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, there is a bug fix for it
[08:31] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, if you hold tight ill help u
[08:31] <SeveredCross> What package is the "man" binary in?
[08:31] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, im on Dell laptop too, had the same issue
[08:31] <bobsomebody> krammer, ok so that is a yes right?
[08:31] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, I take it you got yours working?
[08:31] <bobsomebody> yeah
[08:31] <n2diy> Aren't man files plain text?
[08:31] <krammer> no
[08:32] <krammer> im at the file now what shold i do
[08:32] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, just got berly to work today, right out of the box, i though i would at least get a glitch
[08:32] <bobsomebody> krammer, ok so you did not edit xorg.conf?
[08:32] <krammer> right
[08:32] <lala> alaoooo
[08:32] <krammer> im in the terminal now with the file
[08:32] <bobsomebody> oh goody....
[08:32] <lala> #malang
[08:33] <bobsomebody> krammer, what kind of video card do you have?
[08:33] <krammer> radeon 1400
[08:33] <xenoie> krammer: did you install a restricted driver?
[08:33] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, pastebin your xorg.conf you have for me while u wait if u like :)
[08:33] <krammer> yes
[08:34] <xenoie> ok
[08:34] <bobsomebody> ahhhh
[08:34] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, sure
[08:34] <astro76> SeveredCross, man-db
[08:34] <bobsomebody> xenoie, would you like to take over? i dont know the driver fix
[08:34] <orbstra> hey I am running a SAMBA file server, and I am blocking all the ports with IPTABLES... but I was wondering waht I should keep open as INPUT to teh server so SAMBA should work propery
[08:34] <xenoie> bobsomebody: if that's ok with you :)
[08:34] <bobsomebody> xenoie, have at it, ill go help tictacaddict
[08:35] <bobsomebody> orbstra, you should check the port lists
[08:35] <orbstra> how
[08:35] <orbstra> where
[08:35] <xenoie> krammer: are you in X now?
[08:35] <bobsomebody> orbstra, google "port list" and skim it
[08:35] <krammer> yes
[08:35] <echosystm> guys, what is that thing which mixes multiple sound programms through alsa?
[08:35] <xenoie> krammer: open a terminal
[08:35] <echosystm> without it you cant have two audio apps open
[08:35] <bobsomebody> orbstra, you can also do a debug  log in IPTABLES
[08:35] <krammer> im in the terminal with the file
[08:35] <echosystm> i forget the name of it
[08:35] <siniestro> hi
[08:35] <xenoie> krammer: close out of that file please
[08:36] <krammer> i dont have a desktop
[08:36] <siniestro> como se descomprime .part*.rar???
[08:36] <krammer> the x sever is down
[08:36] <xenoie> krammer: you are at a console then?
[08:36] <unagi> anyone here use maya?
[08:36] <Gnea> !es | siniestro
[08:36] <ubotu> siniestro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:36] <xenoie> krammer: ok, please get to a prompt.
[08:36] <krammer> i guess
[08:36] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, let me know when u have the pastebin done
[08:36] <astro76> !info esound | echosystm
[08:36] <ubotu> echosystm: esound: Enlightened Sound Daemon - Support binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.36-3ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 27 kB, installed size 100 kB
[08:36] <siniestro> esta vacio =(
[08:36] <krammer> i just enter/etc/x11/xorg.confg
[08:36] <bobsomebody> esound FTW!!!!
[08:36] <krammer> im there
[08:36] <echosystm> i found it
[08:36] <unagi> !info maya
[08:36] <echosystm> its dsound
[08:36] <ubotu> Package maya does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:36] <echosystm> err
[08:37] <echosystm> sorry
[08:37] <echosystm> dmix
[08:37] <echosystm> :P
[08:37] <bobsomebody> i did an "Audiable Log Sytem" howto w/ espeak + awk :P
[08:37] <bobsomebody> at ubuntu help wiki
[08:37] <bullgard4> English help wanted: Gnome main menu System > Administration > Services: (Service preferences) > screen. What English name designates 'screen'? Is it 'Terminal multiplexer'?
[08:37] <tictacaddict> got it. http://pastebin.com/m6eea471a
[08:37] <xenoie> krammer: give me one second :)
[08:37] <krammer> k
[08:37] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, pastebin'd
[08:37] <bobsomebody> k, 1 sec
[08:38] <tl4> i need some console editor that can use hot keys ctrl+c for copy ctrl+v for paste, ....(sry on my bad engl) :)
[08:38] <astro76> bullgard4, 'Terminal multiplexor (screen)'
[08:38] <xenoie> krammer: You have nano open right now then?
[08:38] <krammer> yes
[08:38] <xenoie> krammer: press (ctrl-x)
[08:38] <bullgard4> astro76: Thank you very much.
[08:38] <krammer> ok
[08:38] <xenoie> krammer: do not save
[08:38] <krammer> ok
[08:39] <krammer> I am at the prompt
[08:40] <xenoie> krammer: are you at e promot now something like [you@server] :~$?
[08:40] <krammer> yes
[08:40] <xenoie> krammer: type "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak"
[08:40] <xenoie> no quotes
[08:41] <xenoie> krammer: tell me when you are done that.
[08:41] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, im trying to find the how-to because i didnt note the edits in mine
[08:41] <Kragnerac> sudo invade -nomercy earth
[08:41] <krammer> missing destination file operan after this file
[08:41] <unagi> !info maya
[08:41] <unagi> anyone here use maya?
[08:41] <ubotu> Package maya does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:41] <Kragnerac> !gtk
[08:41] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[08:42] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, oh, did you update your bios yet?
[08:42] <xenoie> krammer: accept that :)
[08:42] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, no I haven't done htat
[08:42] <temuchin> !automatix
[08:42] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:42] <krammer> i did
[08:43] <temuchin> !WorksForMe
[08:43] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:43] <Gnea> astro76: figured it out - had to create an .iso file out of thin air, throw it on a loop device, create a udf fs on it, mount it, copy the file to it
[08:43] <echosystm> does anyone know where the dmix configuration file is? i cant find it
[08:43] <echosystm> also, how do i lock dmix to 44100hz?
[08:43] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, what labtop is it?
[08:43] <echosystm> 48000hz gives me all kinds of bad sounds
[08:43] <temuchin> try the whereis command
[08:44] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, it is an Inspiron 4000
[08:44] <bobsomebody> ok, hang tight
[08:44] <krammer> xeonie could this be lagging ?
[08:44] <tl4> i need some console editor that can use hot keys ctrl+c for copy ctrl+v for paste, ....(sry on my bad engl) :)
[08:44] <xenoie> krammer: I can't see anything you say in there.
[08:45] <xenoie> krammer: anyway...
[08:45] <krammer> i gueess there was a problem
[08:45] <sauvin> tl4, why do you need the control keys, specifically?
[08:45] <krammer> i closed it out
[08:45] <xenoie> krammer: try this 'cd /etc/X111'
[08:45] <xenoie> scratch that
[08:45] <xenoie> krammer: try this 'cd /etc/X11'
[08:45] <xenoie> krammer: leave off the ' symbol
[08:45] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, actually, yours might be simpler, no upgrade needed
[08:46] <krammer> i did
[08:46] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, did you find the how-to you mentioned?
[08:46] <xenoie> krammer: now do: sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[08:46] <krammer> k\
[08:46] <xenoie> krammer: did that execute with no error?
[08:46] <Jaikkanen> can anyone help me achieve separate wallpapers on each workspace?
[08:47] <krammer> $ is showing
[08:47] <krammer> no errors
[08:47] <xenoie> krammer: that is good.
[08:47] <Gnea> Jaikkanen: install Enlightenment
[08:47] <xenoie> krammer: no do: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:47] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, on line 46 of your xorg.conf, make it say = "ati" instead of "kbd"
[08:47] <xenoie> krammer: this should reload the X server and bring it up on the main screen
[08:48] <krammer> no showing failed to start x server
[08:48] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, and then reload x server
[08:48] <Jaikkanen> Gnea: will such software make an trouble considering i run with compiz?
[08:48] <xenoie> krammer: what type of video card did you say you had?
[08:48] <krammer> radeon 1400
[08:48] <n2diy> xenoie: click on your work space, then right click in the work space, and play with your wallpaper.
[08:48] <howlingmadhowie> oh no! what's happened? there are less than 1000 people here
[08:49] <bobsomebody> howlingmadhowie, people are learning ubuntu and forgeting about us
[08:49] <bobsomebody> :P
[08:49] <Jaikkanen> lol
[08:49] <krammer> it reads would you like to view the x sever out to diagnose the probelem
[08:49] <krammer> output
[08:49] <n2diy> howlingmadhowie: got to sleep sometime?
[08:49] <howlingmadhowie> maybe we should make ubuntu more difficult
[08:49] <Jaikkanen> don't worry, there are plenty of people still using that microsoft rubbish, plenty more guests yet to arrive
[08:50] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: :)
[08:50] <bobsomebody> howlingmadhowie, nah, then windows could sue us easier saying it is more like thier OS
[08:50] <HipotermiA> http://carloscampusano.wordpress.com/
[08:50] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, I did that.  X fails to start, saying there is no input driver named ati
[08:50] <bobsomebody> hmmm ok, hang on
[08:51] <kao> I have been using ubuntu for only 3 monh now and I think i is great. I lost my password to the forums and getting another is a joke - you'd think it was fort knox not a help forum. but the product is fantastic
[08:51] <bobsomebody> do you know how to change it back yourself? or do you need my help w/ that?
[08:51] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, ^ to u
[08:51] <Jaikkanen> bobsomebody: i guess if they made ubuntu crash for even looking at it the wrong way
[08:51] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, no, I'm set.
[08:51] <howlingmadhowie> bobsomebody: so the law once again prevents competition for microsoft...
[08:52] <krammer> Xeon are you still here
[08:52] <tictacaddict> bobsomebody, I might update the bios anyway for good measure.  any reason that I should avoid that?
[08:52] <xenoie> krammer: what change did you make to your xorg.conf?
[08:52] <hexstar> !xeon
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <Jaikkanen> Gnea: will enlightenment work fine if im running compiz?
[08:52] <krammer> i added some text to the end of the file
[08:53] <krammer> the probelm started when I wanted to enable desktop effects
[08:53] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, not that I know of, bios upgrades are always good :)
[08:53] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, here, found some links
[08:53] <bobsomebody> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3012392 had same issue
[08:53] <krammer> and the error was the composite didn have an entencsion something like that
[08:53] <xenoie> krammer: do 'cd /etc/X11/ ; mv xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf" and remove the text you added
[08:53] <bobsomebody> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[08:53] <bobsomebody> ^ good how-to
[08:54] <xenoie> krammer: I'm not sure what you added, but it caused and issues loading the X server and it's unable to auto-detect your hardware
[08:54] <YoG> Hi, I'd like the keyboard volume keys to control a "softMaster" volume instead the "Master" volume, is there a way to change that?
[08:55] <krammer> ok do i type ; with the string
[08:55] <xenoie> krammer: yes
[08:55] <bobsomebody> tictacaddict, those two links should help you solve it, if not, PM me, i gotta go do some work, but ill keep an eye out for u
[08:55] <xenoie> krammer: leave off the quotes (')
[08:55] <krammer> permission denied
[08:55] <d0d00r> How do i set the default startup run value in unbuntu? i can't find the initab file
[08:55] <Jaikkanen> YoG: hm possibly, not certain how to achieve it
[08:56] <xenoie> krammer: you will have to use the sudo command
[08:56] <xenoie> krammer: do 'sudo cd /etc/X11/ ; mv xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf" and remove the text you added
[08:56] <boubbin> how to run irssi on boot with a spesific user ?
[08:56] <krammer> k
[08:56] <Jaikkanen> YoG: are this keyboard volume control like a special hotkey?
[08:56] <Jaikkanen> is this*
[09:01] <YoG> Jaikkanen: yes, I have several buttons such as e-mail, calculator, and two buttons for volume up and down...
[09:01] <krammer> command not found
[09:01] <Jaikkanen> YoG: mm, laptop?
[09:01] <YoG> Jaikkanen: Nope. It's a wireless logitech keyboard...
[09:01] <Lustblader> Jaikkanen: some keyboards have those buttons too.. multimedia keyboards theyr called i think
[09:01] <Cheeza_kiyudz> riena_cantik
[09:01] <Cheeza_kiyudz>    test
[09:01] <Jaikkanen> YoG: ahh nice.. well if it's a really fancy one.. i think it might have specific drivers for extra features, i dont really know what else it can do
[09:01] <Jaikkanen> YoG: if so.. and if the drivers are also for linux.. i would imagine it could be easier
[09:01] <eboyjr> !defrag > me
[09:01] <HarveyBirdman> keyboard macros
[09:01] <Lustblader> or he can manually assign the keys to whateer function he wants it to do
[09:01] <d0d00r> How do i set the default startup run value in unbuntu? i can't find the initab file
[09:01] <Jaikkanen> YoG: for example my logitech wireless mouse has a CD with software, drivers etc
[09:01] <YoG> Jaikkanen: for ubuntu???
[09:01] <n2diy> d0d00r: I think Ubuntu ditched intitab for jumpstart?
[09:01] <d0d00r> is there a way i can run it without X?
[09:01] <Jaikkanen> YoG: well its linux based.. but even then.. still not likely any support for linux ether
[09:01] <n2diy> ! jumpstart
[09:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jumpstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <n2diy> d0d00r: I don't know, I haven't had to mess with it yet.
[09:02] <Jaikkanen> YoG: mine doesnt atleast, but your might? if you have any
[09:03] <n2diy> d0d00r: Maybe google would tell you if you searched for initab and Ubuntu?
[09:03] <YoG> Jaikkanen: I don't think so...
[09:04] <WX9J> I have a slave with 4 partitions , do I need to add the drive, and then each partition  in /etc/fstab to get them mounted at boot ?
[09:04] <Jaikkanen> YoG: mm, well i am pretty sure there should be like.. a document somewhere.. that you should beable to open.. and can probably edit the key of any key
[09:05] <Slart> WX9J: I think ubuntu does it on install.. but in theory I would say yes
[09:05] <Slart> WX9J: or.. wait.. you don't have to add the drive.. just the partitions
[09:05] <Jaikkanen> YoG: *shrugs* like.. with my logitech mouse i couldnt use my extra buttons.. but there was software out there that enabled me to.. and set whatever value of the keys i wanted
[09:05] <whta> will resizing an ntfs partition with gparted cause any data loss?
[09:05] <n2diy> WX9J !? qsl?
[09:06] <WX9J> Slart: thanks, was not sure
[09:06] <WX9J> QSL
[09:06] <Jaikkanen> YoG: search up your keyboard model.. with ubuntu perhaps
[09:06] <n2diy> WX9J RR
[09:06] <Slart> Jaikkanen: you have to change a line or two in your xorg.conf to get all buttons to work.. or at least that's what I did to get my logitech mouse working
[09:06] <howlingmadhowie> d0d00r: have a look here: http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[09:07] <Jaikkanen> Slart: well it would depend the mouse i am sure
[09:07] <terapicodave> whta: it's not supposed to but conventional wisdom says you should make a backup before partition operations
[09:07] <Jaikkanen> Slart: mine has like an extra 5 functions that arent mouse standard..i had to use btnx
[09:07] <YoG> Jaikkanen: I can use them. They worked out of the box for me. But when I press the volume buttons they change the "master" volume. Which controls only the front speakers. I'd like it to control a "softMaster" which I created and which controls all four channels...
[09:07] <whta> terapicodave: i would, but backing up 150 gigs of data on short notice isn't exactly a simple task
[09:07] <Slart> Jaikkanen: oh.. that's possible I guess.. I have only tried it with one or two logitech mice.. but I thought the protocol was pretty standard
[09:07] <Slart> Jaikkanen: what mouse is it?
[09:08] <terapicodave> whta: what's the os you're shrinking?
[09:08] <Slart> Jaikkanen: or you mean all those fancy things that the driver does in windows?
[09:08] <Jaikkanen> YoG: yeah.. well i mean.. thats what btnx did.. allowed me to not only use them.. but use them for whatever i want.. so if you can find something similar.. you can specify it to change the softmaster perhaps?
[09:08] <whta> terapicodave: i'm trying to shrink my ubunto home partition and grow my media partition on a slave disk
[09:08] <Jaikkanen> Slart: its a revolution VX
[09:08] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: loadkeys might help?
[09:09] <howlingmadhowie> d0d00r: or better: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=466108&highlight=default+runlevel
[09:09] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: help with what?
[09:09] <howlingmadhowie> d0d00r: that link will answer your questions :)
[09:09] <terapicodave> whta: so you're saying your ubuntu /home is on ntfs?
[09:09] <Slart> Jaikkanen: hmm.. that's the smaller one of those new fancy mice, right? I had the big one for a week or two until I gave it to the gf.. can't remember if I got it working alright
[09:09] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: multi-media keyborads.
[09:09] <n2diy> keyboards.
[09:09] <whta> terapicodave: no, my media partition is ntfs and my /home/ is ext3
[09:10] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: *shrugs* speak to YoG.. he is the one with the problem
[09:10] <howlingmadhowie> whta: /me breathes a sigh of relief
[09:10] <Jaikkanen> Slart: the MX was the one with the second scroll wheel i think.. slightly wider.. yeah
[09:10] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: ah, I thought you were helping him, sorry.
[09:10] <Jaikkanen> Slart: if i had known about it.. i probably would have considered that one
[09:10] <huayixue>
[09:10] <YoG> n2diy: I'll look for loadkeys... though I hoped I could do that with the default setup...
[09:11] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: well trying.. but i havent got so much more to give
[09:11] <n2diy> YoG: you have load keys already, check the man page, GL.
[09:11] <Slart> Jaikkanen: the other one isn't really a scroll wheel afaik.. just a glorified half-joystick =)
[09:11] <hwilde> anybody ever have eth0 and eth1 just disappear on a reboot and never come back?
[09:11] <terapicodave> whta: if i were you'd i'd deal with that backup issue before messing with partitions
[09:12] <_da> is there an easy way to have sound on this compaq 5k box?
[09:12] <Jaikkanen> Slart: lol
[09:12] <sauvin> hwilde, I've heard of that happening with wireless cards :\
[09:12] <Jaikkanen> Slart: i was so impressed with the VX though
[09:12] <Slart> Jaikkanen: darn.. sounds like I bought the wrong one after all.. =)
[09:12] <hwilde> sauvin, wireless and wired ethernet port both gone tho?  no mention in dmesg of pcmcia or ethernet
[09:12] <Jaikkanen> Slart: amazing battery management... soooo smooth
[09:13] <sauvin> No, I've never heard of that happening.
[09:13] <hwilde> :/
[09:13] <terapicodave> hwilde: can it be a switch on your laptop?
[09:13] <howlingmadhowie> actually this is really useful information. for those who didn't know it: ubuntu uses 2 as the default runlevel :) just have a look at /etc/rc2.d if you don't believe me :)
[09:13] <hwilde> terapicodave, there is no kill switch
[09:14] <Jaikkanen> Slart: i love how you can adjust the scroll wheel gearing.. you can make it really tight.. or really loose so it glides, spins.. and its all built so firmly
[09:14] <terapicodave> no fn key either?
[09:14] <hwilde> no
[09:14] <hwilde> it is enabled
[09:14] <terapicodave> anyway your ethernet shouldn't go away
[09:14] <hwilde> the lights don't even blink on the pcmcia card
[09:14] <krammer> anybody good with the x server?
[09:14] <YoG> n2diy: I think xbindkeys is more appropriate...
[09:14] <terapicodave> upgrade your kernel recently?
[09:14] <hwilde> dmesg doesn't even register ejecting and reinserting the card
[09:14] <Slart> Jaikkanen: yes.. that's nice.. but I found out I don't really have that many ultra long excel-files =)..
[09:14] <krammer> i cannot start and need to remove a couple of line in the x conf file
[09:14] <manir> hwilde, hi
[09:15] <terapicodave> were you using ndiswrapper? does lsmod show it?
[09:15] <hwilde> no, no
[09:15] <Jaikkanen> LOL yeah, i dont have mine on "super glide" thats insane
[09:15] <n2diy> YoG: will xbindkeys stick in terminal mode?
[09:15] <eboyjr> When running from a live CD, when I go to System > Preferences > Desktop Effects, and click on Enable Desktop Effects, the screen turns white except for the mouse for a few seconds ( like 15 seconds ).
[09:15] <terapicodave> have you eliminated hardware?
[09:16] <terapicodave> as the source of the problem i mean
[09:16] <Jaikkanen> Slart: could NEVER use my old mouse since i got it, nothing compares anymore, perfect mouse.. best 100aud i ever spent
[09:16] <roboboy> t
[09:16] <YoG> n2diy: err... what??? what do you mean "stick in terminal mode"?
[09:16] <Petskull> okie, doke- I'm back up to 2 mins on the laptop
[09:16] <Slart> Jaikkanen: hehe.... sounds like I need to reevaluate it.. going to have to steal it back from the gf
[09:16] <hwilde> terapicodave, tried multiple known good hardware
[09:17] <Jaikkanen> Slart: hehe, what you using atm?
[09:17] <manir> i am using ubuntu on compaq  presario v3000 series.I want to connect internet through modem but it is not detecting the modem
[09:17] <eboyjr> When running from a live CD, when I go to System > Preferences > Desktop Effects, and click on Enable Desktop Effects, the screen turns white except for the mouse for a few seconds ( like 15 seconds ).
[09:17] <manir> can anyone help me out
[09:17] <Petskull> I got rid of 'blutooth' and 'hplip' and now it's back to 'really slow'
[09:17] <n2diy> YoG: xbindkeys sounds like it functions under Xwindow, if you are in a terminal, would the terminal respond to commands?
[09:17] <Petskull> ... what's funny is it gave me a slight increase on the desktop
[09:17] <terapicodave> hwilde: is it localized so just network stuff that no longer shows? sound works?
[09:18] <Slart> Jaikkanen: logitech Mx700, the only wireless mouse I've found that uses regular rechargable batteries.. but it's dying on me now.. so I'm using an even older wired logitech mouse at the moment
[09:18] <Petskull> oops
[09:18] <hwilde> terapicodave, sounds, networking, parallel, serial, usb, etc still works.  eth0 and eth1  are gone
[09:18] <YoG> n2diy: ah, I don't know... just found this app. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560)
[09:18] <terapicodave> does /etc/network/interfaces still list them?
[09:19] <n2diy> YoG: looking.
[09:19] <Mesk> hi all
[09:19] <hwilde> terapicodave, /etc/network/interfaces has not changed
[09:19] <Jaikkanen> Slart: hehe, i think there was a VX and MX version of which is those which charge on a stand.. which are kinda cool.. but shitty, regular batteries are much better i find
[09:20] <warnet03> semarang
[09:20] <warnet03> i]
[09:20] <warnet03> i
[09:20] <warnet03> i
[09:20] <Jaikkanen> Slart: esspecially when it uses 1 battery.. and takes like 2 months for it to go flat.. and a pack of 4 here costs like.. 5euro..
[09:21] <Slart> Jaikkanen: yea.. I'm actually thinking of getting a wired mouse next.. haven't used one in years.. don't really know how annoying that cord is
[09:21] <Mesk> Can somebody help me to install W32CODECS, "apt-get install w32codecs" writes that it's not avaliable
[09:21] <eboyjr> When running from a live CD, when I go to System > Preferences > Desktop Effects, and click on Enable Desktop Effects, the screen turns white except for the mouse for a few seconds ( like 15 seconds ).
[09:21] <Mesk> ?
[09:22] <Jaikkanen> Slart: yeah.. i dunno if i could go back.. the wire just drives me up the wall.. but i still keep my old one around, for like FPS gaming, not that i do much of it these days
[09:22] <krammer> anybody good with the xserver
[09:22] <sauvin> Hesk, are you talking about a collection of codecs from the mplayer home page?
[09:22] <Slart> Jaikkanen: hehe.. I wish I was that good at fps that the mouse would matter =)
[09:22] <Jaikkanen> Slart: the reaction time is quite important for FPS
[09:22] <Mesk> yes
[09:23] <krammer> i can use the help
[09:23] <Jaikkanen> Slart: haha, well im pathetic too actually, kinda why i need the quick response time :D
[09:23] <n2diy> YoG: Not sure, if you only want to use the multi-media keyboard X, it would probably work. If your running in a terminal, you probably don't need multi-media any way?
[09:23] <Slart> Jaikkanen: every little bit helps =)
[09:23] <Jaikkanen> Slart: i got a deadly aim with a rifle though ;)
[09:23] <Mesk> Krammer what i need to do ?
[09:23] <krammer> when i boot up the xserver is disable
[09:23] <sauvin> Mesk (sorry, small font here, I misread your nick before), download the codecs from the mplayer home page and copy them into /usr/local/lib/codecs
[09:24] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Whats your best shot?
[09:24] <terapicodave> hwilde: lspci doesn't show it?
[09:24] <eboyjr> When running from a live CD, when I go to System > Preferences > Desktop Effects, and click on Enable Desktop Effects, the screen turns white except for the mouse for a few seconds ( like 15 seconds ).
[09:24] <Slart> Jaikkanen: I'm thinking of getting one of those razor mice.. I'm not really a big gamer but they seemed pretty nice to handle
[09:24] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: DIGITAL shot
[09:24] <chifferchap> is there a chinese #ubuntu?
[09:24] <Mesk> Sauvin THX i'll try!
[09:24] <hwilde> terapicodave, nope   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32458/      it is not in the boot messages, dmesg, ifconfig -a, /etc/init.d/networking restart ...
[09:24] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: That doesn't count!
[09:24] <eboyjr> chifferchap: #ubuntu-cn
[09:25] <Jaikkanen> Slart: yeah, all the hardcores use em, supposed to be the best out there, used at tournaments
[09:25] <krammer> mez can you help me?
[09:25] <chifferchap> eboyjr: thank!
[09:25] <Jaikkanen> Slart: expensive though
[09:25] <Jaikkanen> Slart:  i recall
[09:25] <eboyjr> chifferchap: sure
[09:25] <YoG> n2diy: indeed
[09:25] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: aww :D
[09:26] <n2diy> YoG: ?
[09:26] <Slart> Jaikkanen: about the same as a wireless mouse last time I checked... 500 SEK ~ 50 euros ~ 80 USD
[09:26] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: hey at least your shooting. :)
[09:26] <YoG> n2diy: If I'm in terminal mode, I won't need the multimedia functions....
[09:26] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: that attitude sounds american
[09:27] <n2diy> YoG: Ok, GL.
[09:27] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Very.
[09:27] <Jaikkanen> plus i smell a supersized macdonalds meal, surely your an american ;)
[09:27] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Nope, home cooking.
[09:28] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: nice
[09:28] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: where do you hail from?
[09:29] <Jaikkanen> i am an eskimo!
[09:29] <Jaikkanen> i wish atleast, would be cool just to say that
[09:29] <linxuz3r> can you put 1512 mb of memory? or does it have to be squareD?
[09:29] <Jaikkanen> close enough though, i reside in finland
[09:29] <Silva> Hi how do i fix a JRE install? I installed it via Synaptic but it still doesnt work?
[09:29] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Seriously!? Then you're familiar with a rifle!
[09:30] <Silva> !jre
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <n2diy> Slart: Food
[09:30] <Silva> !java
[09:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:30] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: well airsoft is quite a popular hobby here in finland, however this is not my country of birth, and have not yet had the chance to use airsoft guns.. yet
[09:31] <Jaikkanen> Slart: well i think he was refering to me being an eskimo... but if not.. still.. finland is still quite uhhh.. well.. i mean
[09:31] <Slart> n2diy: eh.. because out here in the wild north we have to shoot seals and fight bears on a daily basis, to survive? =)
[09:31] <Jaikkanen> we have lots of forest land
[09:31] <roeinstein> anyone know of any good irc-hybrid / hybserv how-tos?
[09:31] <FruitLoop> How do I install Edgy 6.10 onto a separate partition on my hard disk when I already have Ubuntu Studio 7.04 installed on it? I can find how tos for dual booting Windows and LInux but nothing on dual booting two linuxes on separate partitions. When I tried to install Edgy it mucked everything up and I had to remove it. How do I do this safely/properly and get a working dual boot?
[09:31] <Jaikkanen> polar bears.. elk.. that sorta stuff
[09:31] <eboyjr> When running from a live CD, when I go to System > Preferences > Desktop Effects, and click on Enable Desktop Effects, the screen turns white except for the mouse for a few seconds ( like 15 seconds ).
[09:32] <elkbuntu> !offtopic
[09:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:32] <n2diy> Slart: I know, I'd rather deal with those animals then the ones here in the Eastern US.
[09:32] <Slart> yes.. sorry elkbuntu.. we won't discuss the shooting of elks.. =)
[09:32] <Jaikkanen> lol!
[09:33] <n2diy> uh oh
[09:33] <elkbuntu> please take offtopic converstion to -offtopic
[09:33] <MARIUSmarius> how to install proper driver for my canon pixma ip1000 on feisty fawn? Where can i get them? I found some rpm files, but there's instrtuction for red hat
[09:33] <n2diy> elkbuntu:  was locked and laoded.
[09:34] <hwilde> !offtopic
[09:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:34] <Jaikkanen> haha, nice call slart btw
[09:34] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: indeed
[09:34] <ari_stress> hi all, what is the difference between sudo -s and sudo -i? i read the man pages but cannot understand it
[09:34] <eboyjr> When running from a live CD, when I go to System > Preferences > Desktop Effects, and click on Enable Desktop Effects, the screen turns white except for the mouse for a few seconds ( like 15 seconds ).
[09:34] <guy-in-scrubs> #mobile
[09:35] <Silva> !sound
[09:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:35] <hwilde> ari_stress, -s specifies the SHELL environment variable, -i reads from /etc/passwd the user's default shell
[09:35] <flash42> hi
[09:35] <Jaikkanen> eboyjr: is that really such a big problem?
[09:35] <ari_stress> hwilde: thantks, i heard -i is better?
[09:35] <eboyjr> Jaikkanen: Well, I can't get Desktop Effects running
[09:35] <eboyjr> Jaikkanen: so yeah
[09:36] <hwilde> ari_stress, options depend on what u want to do
[09:36] <Jaikkanen> eboyjr: why would you want to on live cd
[09:36] <echosystm> i need a huge favour from someone
[09:36] <echosystm> my computer keeps crashing because of my dmix config
[09:36] <linxuz3r> anyone know how to upgrade your memory?
[09:36] <echosystm> can someone pastebin theirs?
[09:36] <whta> how is webcam support in ubuntu?
[09:36] <echosystm> its at /usr/share/alsa/dmix.conf
[09:36] <ari_stress> hwilde: i want to be root temporarily, people say to use sudo -i. but some suggest sudo -s
[09:36] <Slart> ari_stress: from the man-page, sudo -i is more of a simulated login, with enviroment variables being set, changing dir to homedir etc.. sudo -s just starts a new shell
[09:36] <hwilde> ari_stress, don't use either just use sudo
[09:37] <eboyjr> Jaikkanen: Because I'm not allowed to install it and I want to show someone the effects
[09:37] <ari_stress> hwilde: ok
[09:37] <chuy> eboyjr, probably you have to configure your card's driver, which video card do you have?
[09:37] <Slart> ari_stress: try to use just sudo for root stuff..you'll be a happier person in the long run =)
[09:37] <ari_stress> Slart: thanks
[09:37] <Jaikkanen> eboyjr: hmm, i doubt there is really much you can do, running from a live cd.. not like you can patch it up or anything :D
[09:38] <Slart> hmm... is "sudo su" about the same as sudo -i   or sudo -s ?
[09:38] <eboyjr> chuy: ATI inc. rc410 radeon xpress 200m
[09:38] <hwilde> !sudo | Slart  lol
[09:38] <ubotu> Slart  lol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:38] <flash42> echosystm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32459/
[09:38] <bullgard4> System Monitor lists two smbd processes of different size. Why do I need two smbd processes?
[09:38] <MARIUSmarius> no help with my printer?
[09:38] <n2diy> Slart: I think that would make a good thesis paper?
[09:39] <philip> anyone familiar with TS files? I cannot play it in VLC or any other player. ANy ideas?
[09:39] <hwilde> !print | MARIUSmarius
[09:39] <ubotu> MARIUSmarius: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:39] <Jaikkanen> chuy: could you really configure video drivers with live cd?
[09:39] <echosystm> thanks flash42  !!!
[09:39] <n2diy> bullgard4: do you know what smp is?
[09:39] <astro76> Slart, sudo -i is like su -, sudo -s is like su
[09:39] <bullgard4> n2diy: Why do you ask?
[09:40] <Slart> astro76: so... they are all the same?
[09:40] <Slart> astro76: ah.. wait.. didn't see the '-'
[09:40] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: isnt that like a skater clothing brand?
[09:40] <Nacho> Hola tengo un problema con ubuntu y modem speedtouch 330, ya lei mas tutoriales que libros en mi vida y si alguien puede ayudarme seria genial
[09:40] <n2diy> bullgard4: Because I might be able to help you?
[09:40] <Slart> !es | Nacho
[09:40] <ubotu> Nacho: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:40] <MARIUSmarius> bash: !print: event not found after !print
[09:40] <Jaikkanen> n2diy:  SMP! yes! sex money power
[09:40] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: ?
[09:40] <bullgard4> bullgard4: If you are abele to help me, why don't you do it?
[09:41] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: bad Jaikkanen!!!
[09:41] <Nacho> gracias Slart
[09:41] <Jaikkanen> n2diy:  x)
[09:41] <Slart> Nacho: you're welcome
[09:41] <eboyjr> whoah, ubuntu beeped for no reason
[09:42] <Lta3> i need to open an .mp3 file in a text editor, Gedit won't. help?
[09:42] <chuy> eboyjr, configuring video drivers is sometimes a tedious process, so if you are running from a live cd will be worthless. install linux and then configure video
[09:42] <hwilde> !mp3 | Lta3
[09:42] <ubotu> Lta3: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:42] <jamesdell> !resolution
[09:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:42] <Slart> eboyjr: ubuntu rarely beeps for no reason.. be very afraid ;)
[09:42] <eboyjr> Slart: haha lol
[09:42] <hwilde> eboyjr, probably power state change stupid laptop beeps
[09:42] <roeinstein> anyone know of any good irc-hybrid / hybserv how-tos?
[09:42] <fstxx> slart: sudo -s means use your shell, eg bash, instead of the target user's. In some other systems root has a lobotomized shell, so then this would be useful
[09:42] <flash42> Lta3: emacs
[09:42] <city-lights> hello, i'm pretty noob, but i have a question: i just installed ubuntu 6.10 (gonna upgrade to 7.04), and each time i issue a restart or shut down, grub refuses to start. I have to shut down the computer from the power button and it works after that
[09:42] <city-lights> can you help me?
[09:43] <sauvin> Where on freenode would I send a friend looking for help with CSS?
[09:43] <MARIUSmarius> so if in canon pixma ip1000 says not suported - i couldn't print?
[09:43] <eboyjr> hwilde: oh this is a desktop, it was probably just firefox from clicking tabs too much maybe
[09:43] <Jaikkanen> Slart: lol, yeah.. unlike windows.. i swear microsoft designed that OS to drive me nuts
[09:43] <Slart> fstxx: thanks
[09:43] <hwilde> !fixgrub | city-lights
[09:43] <ubotu> city-lights: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:43] <ompaul> city-lights, make your life easy install 7.04
[09:43] <city-lights> i am doing upgrade now....
[09:43] <n2diy> city-lights: that could be your system bios, not linux.
[09:43] <Jaikkanen> Slart: like when you would turn off all sounds on windows.. then if you would adjust your volume.. it would make this annoying beeping sound
[09:43] <fstxx> city-lights: install 7.04? why waste time solving problems with an older version if you're going to upgrade anyway?
[09:44] <city-lights> because i don't know what's causing it ....
[09:44] <city-lights> seems weird, and nobody helse i know has it
[09:44] <Slart> Jaikkanen: hehe.. well, in ubuntu we still have that system-beep through one soundcard, even though ubuntu is told to not use it.. very annoying
[09:44] <hwilde> city-lights, follow the instructions from ubotu
[09:44] <n2diy> city-lights: Jaikkanen, Bios settings?
[09:44] <Jaikkanen> Slart: oh yeah? hmph
[09:45] <city-lights> thx a lot. probably i'll be back for some more help after the upgrade
[09:45] <flash42> hm
[09:45] <city-lights> i'll look into bios next time i restart, thx
[09:45] <flash42> hm
[09:45] <flash42> it won't solve it:))
[09:45] <Jaikkanen> Slart: mine makes no beep?
[09:45] <Slart> hmm.. .ts     TS - Transport Stream MPEG-2 Video Stream... think I've seen this before.. don't have one so I can't try playing it though =/
[09:45] <eboyjr> I think everyone needs to do a "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop".
[09:46] <n2diy> city-lights: google your question before you re-start, maybe you'll get some clues to apply to the problem?
[09:46] <howlingmadhowie> eboyjr: i tried it on my plan9 machine. didn't work :(
[09:46] <Slart> Jaikkanen: it doesn't? I have 2 soundcards.. one connected to hedphones and one to big speakers.. ubuntu is set to use the headphones but system beep still goes to the big speakers.. really annoying when you're watching movies or something
[09:47] <eboyjr> howlingmadhowie: You probably have Feisty.
[09:47] <eboyjr> howlingmadhowie: That was just to update Ubunut
[09:47] <eboyjr> howlingmadhowie: Ubuntu*
[09:47] <howlingmadhowie> eboyjr: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/screenshot.html :)
[09:48] <Jaikkanen> Slart: cool, but yeah, i get no beep
[09:48] <howlingmadhowie> eboyjr: (it was just a joke *g*)
[09:48] <Nacho> Hello, i have a problem with ubuntu and spedtouch 330 (usb modem), after reading lots of tutorials i decided to ask here, if anyone can help me with these i'd really apreciate it
[09:48] <eboyjr> howlingmadhowie: Ohh! I'm such a retard.
[09:48] <Jaikkanen> Slart: only problem i got atm with sound is i think a common problem.. when i restart ubuntu.. i get no audio through my right speaker, gotta mute and unmute
[09:48] <Slart> Jaikkanen: odd.. can't remember if I've tried it on feisty... perhaps someone upgraded something
[09:49] <zeroday> Nacho: is this a 3g modem?
[09:49] <Nacho> 3g modem?
[09:49] <Nacho> what is that?
[09:49] <hardstyle> hi I have a toshiba laptop that the sound won't work on
[09:49] <Slart> Jaikkanen: hehe.. makes me feel better knowing that other people have weird problems too =)
[09:49] <ad_> what's this?
[09:49] <zeroday> Nacho: never mind, its a way to get fast internet nearly everywhere in the world
[09:50] <howlingmadhowie> aren't the 3g modems for the umts net?
[09:50] <Nacho> no, jaja i don't have that
[09:50] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Exiting alsa doesn't save it's config, you have to issue it an obscure save command. Google may help?
[09:50] <Jaikkanen> 3g, gosh.. havent heard that for over 6 months
[09:50] <Jaikkanen> pretty amazing speeds you can get over your mobile phone through that network
[09:51] <Nacho> the thing is that ubuntu recognize the modem but i don't know how to set up the conection
[09:51] <Slart> Jaikkanen: those usb-modems are pretty nice.. I've been using it at some beaches the last month.. it's pretty neat
[09:51] <hardstyle> it says it's an hda intel from alsa mixer which is working
[09:51] <ad_>
[09:51] <Jaikkanen> slart gosh i would love wireless
[09:51] <ompaul> !cn
[09:51] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[09:51] <n2diy> ! ja | ad
[09:51] <ubotu> ad:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[09:52] <ad_> ....E
[09:52] <flash42> haha
[09:52] <ad_> ok
[09:52] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: yeah i might look into it.. not really a big deal though.. i never turn my PC off
[09:52] <philip> anyone familiar with TS files? I cannot play it in VLC or any other player. ANy ideas?
[09:52] <howlingmadhowie> Nacho: have you looked here: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[09:52] <sancho___> how can i get configuration files to be installed for a package I've just re-added to the system using apt-get install? I had nessusd (and other nessus* packages) installed previously, removed them, deleted the configs, and now when I reinstall them /etc/nessus/ remains empty.
[09:52] <Slart> Jaikkanen: yea.. it's nice
[09:52] <flash42> chinese or japanese who can tell
[09:52] <sancho___> I see the list of files I think should be installed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/nessusd.conffiles
[09:52] <SeveredCross> Any leet bash hackers here?
[09:52] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Roger that, my "off" switch is my reset switch.
[09:53] <sancho___> dpkg-reconfigure(8) didn't restore them like i thought it might.
[09:53] <nox-Hand> Anyone know of a fullscreen music player that has a simple gui (like an MP3 play a la iPod or Creative; that simple, only needs arrow keys perhaps?) for Linux?
[09:53] <flash42> SeveredCross: /join bash ?
[09:53] <flash42> :)
[09:53] <SeveredCross> :-P
[09:53] <howlingmadhowie> !anyone | SeveredCross
[09:53] <ubotu> SeveredCross: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:53] <Slart> nox-Hand: perhaps you could take a look at some of the media-pc stuff.. myth tv etc?
[09:54] <Slart> nox-Hand: can't remember if it played music or not
[09:54] <Kitsun> Question: How spaz would Ubuntu get if I moved it from one partition to another?
[09:54] <nox-Hand> Slart: I thought that was for TV ;)
[09:54] <n2diy> nox-Hand: yes, that is the one we are all asking Santa Claus for.
[09:54] <sancho___> SeveredCross: really, just ask. you don't need to ask if anyone knows first.
[09:54] <howlingmadhowie> SeveredCross: i know. that ubotu is really ill-tempered
[09:54] <eboyjr> Why would my direct rendering say "no" with glxinfo
[09:54] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: my girlfriend has a laptop.. she turns it off whenever she doesnt use it.. whch is fine.. except that she doesnt know so much about taking care of a PC.. she has so much spyware and shit on there.. it takes like 10 minutes to boot up.. you know.. filling up that system tray with sooo much crap
[09:54] <Slart> nox-Hand: yes.. but I think some of them play music too..
[09:54] <flash42> SeveredCross: i suggest the bash channel is more appropriate
[09:54] <SeveredCross> flash42: And your suggestion was welcome.
[09:55] <SeveredCross> But the very belated suggestion to just ask the damn question was not.
[09:55] <Jaikkanen> excuse my language ;) forgot
[09:55] <SeveredCross> Because I didn't want to bother the entire channel with a question that's not really Ubuntu related.
[09:55] <Nacho> howlingmadhowie: yes i have tried there but didn't help
[09:55] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Roger that, don't own a decent laptop, so I haven't dealt with those issues. What OS is she running?
[09:56] <astro76> sancho___, if you apt-get removed them with the --purge option they'd be reinstalled, I think apt-get install --reinstall will do it too
[09:56] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: well doesnt really matter whether it be a laptop or desktop.. if you dont take care of it.. performance will get crap no matter HOW decent your hardware is
[09:56] <Slart> does anyone use a scanner with document feeder with linux? I'm looking to buy one but they all seem very... linux-unfriendly
[09:56] <eboyjr> i dont know what direct rendering is
[09:56] <eboyjr> yo
[09:56] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: xp
[09:56] <carlesoriol> how can i change codepage and iocharset when i connect to a samba mount in gnomeVFS ? ( smb://computer/share )
[09:57] <Woosta> Can anyone tell me how to unmark everything that is marked in any way in aptitude/dselect?
[09:57] <sancho___> astro76: i'll try, thx.
[09:57] <CHA-CHA> hai
[09:57] <Woosta> I want to have what is installed stay there, and nothing new downloaded. But no matter what I try there's either a shite load to install or a shite load to delete!
[09:57] <eboyjr> Why would my direct rendering say "no" with glxinfo
[09:57] <eboyjr> i dont know what direct rendering is
[09:57] <Nacho> astro67: i am going to try that, thanks
[09:57] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: esspecially xp too.. damn.. you just HAVE to learn to maintaince your PC if you want any performance outta your PC, awful
[09:57] <YoG> Jaikkanen, n2diy: Thanx for the help, I've found the solution: Under system->preference->sound you can change the "default mixer tracks" to control via keyboard...
[09:58] <Jaikkanen> YoG: ahh, great, lucky it was so easy
[09:58] <gustavo> an someone help me with vmware? "Unable to change virtual machine power state: Failed to connect to peer process."
[09:58] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Laptops have battery issues. The only time I shut down this mission critical box is when the town looses power, and that isn't my choice.
[09:58] <gustavo> *can
[09:58] <stiv2k_> what package does smbclient come in?
[09:58] <Jaikkanen> YoG: looks like i underestimated how well thought out ubuntu system is ;)
[09:58] <fstxx> gustavo: apt-get install ia32-libs
[09:58] <Slart> stiv2k_: samba
[09:58] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: well eh, i mean.. i rarely even use my battery
[09:59] <Slart> stiv2k_: at least I think so..
[09:59] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: nor does she.. its always plugged in
[09:59] <stiv2k_> Slart: nvm, its actually its own package :P
[09:59] <gustavo> fstxx thanks
[09:59] <n2diy> YoG: Jaikkanen, cool good luck.
[09:59] <howlingmadhowie> nacho: it's a fair bit of reading, but this could help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44763
[09:59] <Slart> stiv2k_: oh.. well.. there you are =)
[09:59] <YoG> Jaikkanen: Yes, and it's even getting better with time (just like wine) ;-)
[09:59] <sancho___> astro76: worked great after a purge and re-install. thx.
[10:00] <gustavo> fstxx it may be because im not running sound driver?
[10:00] <nox-Hand> Anyone recommend a media centre program alike or better than Windows Media Centre (keyboard control )
[10:00] <Jaikkanen> YoG: i look forward to trying wine again soon, as it develops
[10:00] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Then they are laptops, there desktops!!! ;)
[10:00] <gustavo> fstxx thanks man, it worked!!!
[10:00] <fstxx> gustavo: that was what fixed it for me yesterday,
[10:01] <eboyjr> What is Direct Rendering?
[10:01] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: it's just convinient.. you know.. you can place it on your lap in bed.. and. you can easily move it if you need to.. when i settle down.. find a place to live for an extended period.. i might get a desktop again.. performance desktop.. with some nasty hardcore hardware inside ;)
[10:01] <Frogzoo> Jaikkanen: you used the budgetdedicated repo for wine?
[10:01] <Jaikkanen> Frogzoo: no idea what that is
[10:02] <astro76> nox-Hand, http://www.mythtv.org/
[10:02] <nox-Hand> astro76: Got that one :)
[10:02] <astro76> Jaikkanen, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[10:02] <astro76> Jaikkanen, you can get the lastest version packaged for ubuntu
[10:03] <Jaikkanen> ook, sure.. thanks.. but why would i want it?
[10:03] <fstxx> can I get ubuntu to ask for password on resume?
[10:03] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Yes, I under stand, I own some laptops too. Just having fun. But..... Until she leaves the dark side, I don' think she can be helped??
[10:04] <Jaikkanen> i tried it only a acouple months ago.. isnt really fulfilling my gaming needs.. there is the refined wine version for games specificly.. which costs.. but eh.. didnt bother with that
[10:04] <ThanatosDrive> Can someone help me out with CS 1.6? I am using Steam, working under the latest WINE.
[10:04] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: lol
[10:04] <Frogzoo> Jaikkanen: currently wine 0.9.42
[10:05] <finalbeta> !package wine
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package wine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <finalbeta> !help
[10:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:05] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: PC's arent her thing.. she uses live journal.. and chats.. bah, decided to.. let it be :D
[10:05] <ThanatosDrive> The game apparently won't show the bottom half of the window. I get a mess of blue on the top half, and the bottom half is what the top half should be. So, I cannot click any of the join games buttons, or anything.
[10:06] <finalbeta> !info wine
[10:06] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional.  But it fails on like85% at "Installing Software"
[10:09] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: if your skull is to small for your head, yes, very bad luck.
[10:10] <BwR> What can be wrong?
[10:10] <astro76> flaccid, /join #ubuntu-ops
[10:10] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: wow that was completely random, i dont see what that had to do with my self inflated ego
[10:10] <flaccid> thanks astro
[10:10] <BwR> It also asks me which kernel to install...
[10:11] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: I agree :)
[10:11] <ThanatosDrive> Anyone? Help with CS 1.6?
[10:11] <BwR> Unexpected error; skipped processing of: initramfs-tools
[10:11] <eboyjr> bye
[10:11] <Jaikkanen> is he talking about counter strike?
[10:12] <ThanatosDrive> Yes, he is.
[10:12] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: Hey BWR has a problem.
[10:12] <Slart> ThanatosDrive: have you asked in #winehq?
[10:12] <BwR> apt-install or in-target is already running, so you cannot run either of...
[10:12] <Jaikkanen> i am afraid il have to ask you to leave, you have offended this whole channel, if not.. atleast me
[10:12] <ThanatosDrive> Slart: Ah! Bah! I've been in #wine the whole time. Thanks!
[10:12] <Slart> ThanatosDrive: you're welcome
[10:12] <Jaikkanen> and me being the most important person here.. o.o
[10:12] <BwR> Help is appreciated
[10:12] <BwR> Greatly
[10:13] <ThanatosDrive> Uh, well.
[10:13] <ThanatosDrive> It seems I have not offended many others, so in order to please the most amount of people, you can leave ourself.
[10:13] <ThanatosDrive> yourself*
[10:13] <Jaikkanen> n2diy: he has a problem? mm, too bad im useless
[10:13] <n2diy> BwR: how long did you let the install "cook"? Dapper does that for about five minute.
[10:13] <BwR> Uhm...
[10:13] <BwR> What?
[10:14] <ThanatosDrive> BwR: That was for Jaikannen. Don't worry about it.
[10:14] <Jaikkanen> ThanatosDrive: :D aww damn, well i tried
[10:14] <n2diy> Jaikkanen: If you were usless, you wouldn't be here.
[10:14] <BwR> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop, amilo m 1347G
[10:14] <BwR> By fujitsu-siemens
[10:15] <Jaikkanen> ThanatosDrive: seems the war against CS is too big to fight
[10:16] <ThanatosDrive> Jaikkanen: I wasn't aware there was a war. But if there were truly a physical war, the CS kids would win. They do, after all, have majority, and most likely, more experience in combat.