[00:06] <Exilant> david__HII: usually your screen should be autodetected. if it isn't, it can be because of an old graphics card driver or an too old screen (have experienced both), or autodetection is off. in the first case, probably use another driver/look at the xorg.conf. in the latter case, you have to add a mode to your screen, then change to that mode
[00:07] <david__HII> i tried the mode thing but doesnt seem to work. of im not doing it right
[00:07] <Exilant> i remember it's not that easy, xrandr likes to fail so silently
[00:08] <david__HII> well can somone lead me along , so it can be done correcly?
[00:09] <Exilant> i don't remember the details, don't need to use since i got the new monitor :)
[00:10] <david__HII> well it only happens to me when i use ubuntu. oter distro are fine
[00:40] <puppetier_> where is the xconfig file in 9.10?
[00:40] <Exilant>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[00:40] <puppetier_> its not there
[00:41] <DarkCow> there's one there for me
[00:41] <DarkCow> but
[00:41] <puppetier_> locate xorg.config nothing
[00:41] <DarkCow> pretty sure it's not usually necessary
[00:41] <puppetier_> i guess not
[00:41] <puppetier_> but then where does the system get these defaults?
[00:41] <puppetier_> my kdm resolution is set to 800x600 and it's pissing me off
[00:42] <puppetier_> where do i change that?
[00:42] <Exilant> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:42] <werfact> puppetier_: in the control center
[00:42] <Exilant> ah
[00:42] <puppetier_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, does nothing
[00:43] <puppetier_> the "control center" is that shitty systemsettings and changing the resolution only does it for the current user
[00:43] <Exilant> ok, sorry.
[00:44] <puppetier_> is it kubuntu or kde that got rid of kcontrol?
[00:44] <DarkCow> kde
[00:44] <puppetier_> thats too bad
[00:44] <puppetier_> the new one sucks alot
[00:44] <DarkCow> I agree
[00:44] <DarkCow> I'm kind of used to it now
[00:44] <puppetier_> well i guess, just feels really limited
[00:44] <DarkCow> after about 7 months
[00:45] <gaurav_> hey folks
[00:45] <puppetier_> anyone know why sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would do nothing?
[00:45] <Exilant> well, if it's not needed anymore
[00:46] <Exilant> i think it resets mine if i do it, but maybe not if no conf is there to start with
[00:46] <werfact> puppetier_: because they changed it somehow and xorg.conf hardly has any settings
[00:46] <puppetier_> ok, ultimately i just want to change the default display resolution for the system. Kubuntu 9.10
[00:46] <DarkCow> puppetier_, what graphics card do you have?
[00:46] <puppetier_> nvidia, although i'm running it in vmware
[00:46] <DarkCow> ah
[00:46] <DarkCow> hmm
[00:46] <Guest17358> guys does downloading and installing nvidia drivers take a lot of time?
[00:47] <DarkCow> not on a 100/50 connection
[00:47] <DarkCow> puppetier_, maybe the vmware client packages would help?
[00:47] <puppetier_> my desktop resolution once i login is fine, looks good
[00:47] <puppetier_> DarkCow, i have them installed
[00:47] <Guest17358> mine is stuck on 50%
[00:47] <puppetier_> its just the system default
[00:47] <puppetier_> without the xorg.config i have no idea where to change that...
[00:47] <puppetier_> and the kde systemsettings only adjusts it for the current user
[00:48] <DarkCow> I've only used vmware a couple of times, but I seem to remember somewhere that you could adjust the reported default screen resolution
[00:48] <puppetier_> i have
[00:48] <puppetier_> i forced it to 1680x1050 to see if that would matter - it doesn't
[00:48] <puppetier_> so the vm understands that the head is 1680x1050
[00:48] <puppetier_> xrandr shows the right stuff
[00:49] <puppetier_> just when i'm at the kdm screen its 800x600 until i login
[00:49] <DarkCow> let me see if I can throw together some kind of sane xorg.conf
[00:49] <puppetier_> its not really a big deal, i just find it annoying that there isn't a system setting for this
[00:49] <puppetier_> well i could write up an xorg.config
[00:49] <DarkCow> I have a dual-head setup, so it's probably not appropriate for you
[00:49] <puppetier_> but i'm assuming its getting the defaults from somewhere
[00:49] <iRoNh3Ad> guys any ideas if i should wait for the drivers thing or should i be doing something else?
[00:49] <puppetier_> ya, dont worry about writing me an xorg.config, i can do that. Thanks though
[00:50] <puppetier_> im just wondering how kubuntu has fucked with the architecture here
[00:50] <puppetier_> i was expecting an xorg.config
[00:50] <puppetier_> or does it just not have a config and the system boots and autodetects everytime?
[00:50] <puppetier_> or defaults?
[00:51] <DarkCow> autodetects
[00:51] <DarkCow> http://pastebin.com/d50442205
[00:51] <DarkCow> just try something as simple as that
[00:51] <iRoNh3Ad> HELLO
[00:51] <iRoNh3Ad> GUYS
[00:51] <DarkCow> HI
[00:51] <puppetier_> DarkCow, ok, i'll give that a shot. Thanks for your help
[00:51] <DarkCow> np
[00:52] <iRoNh3Ad> does graphics driver get stuck at 50% and download something from somewhere else or is it an error?
[00:52] <DarkCow> iRoNh3Ad, it never got stuck at that point for me
[00:52] <DarkCow> how are you installing it?
[00:52] <iRoNh3Ad> using system-hardware drivers
[00:52] <DarkCow> do you have a really slow connection?
[00:53] <iRoNh3Ad> i have a 512 kbps line
[00:54] <DarkCow> the only thing I could think of is that it has to get the compiler and kernel headers in order to build the driver
[00:54] <DarkCow> but that's pure speculation
[00:54] <DarkCow> I would also expect it to report the status of that, if it was in fact the case
[00:54] <iRoNh3Ad> ohk
[00:54] <DarkCow> so it sounds to me like it's getting hung up on something
[00:54] <iRoNh3Ad> oh ok
[00:54] <iRoNh3Ad> thnx man
[00:55] <DarkCow> it may be an idea to download the .run installer from the nvidia website, if you're up for that
[00:56] <DarkCow> that was the only way I managed to get it working before I had kubuntu
[00:56] <iRoNh3Ad> k i'll check that out
[00:56] <DarkCow> but I have an ATI card now so v(-.-)v
[00:57] <iRoNh3Ad> i'll give it a shot using adept
[00:59] <iRoNh3Ad> it worked with adept]
[01:09] <Speedy2> Hey all.  Anyone sync their PDA/Phone with KOrganizer?  Just curious if the 3.5x versions will "work" with my Palm Treo.
[01:10] <KDesk> hi, with karmic and Kde 4.4 plasma crashes when I add the smooth tasks or the fancy tasks plama widget. Is this a common problem or do you know a fix for this?
[01:15] <navetz> does 9.10 have any the gui to mount filesystems ?
[01:16] <navetz> i remember 8.10 had it but i cannot find it anymore
[01:16] <Speedy2> navetz: If it's a filesystem you plan on using a lot, it's easier and smarter to use the fstab
[01:16] <navetz> Speedy2: it is just my external drive I don't use to often
[01:16] <Speedy2> navetz: It should just "show up"
[01:16] <Speedy2> Kubuntu 9.10 with KDE 3.5x does that.
[01:17] <navetz> Speedy2: humm i have kde 4
[01:17] <Speedy2> navetz: Have you tried hooking your external drive and turning it on?
[01:17] <navetz> Speedy2: and it doesn't show up automatically like it should. I use to have to use the gui program to make it work.
[01:17] <navetz> Speedy2: yes, windows detects it right now but i can't see it on linux
[01:18] <Speedy2> navetz: That's really odd.
[01:19] <navetz> Speedy2: yup, thats why i came for help :)
[01:19] <Speedy2> navetz: Does dmesg show the drive is detected?
[01:22] <navetz> Speedy2: [613884.106709] FAT: bread failed in fat_clusters_flush
[01:22] <navetz> Speedy2:  it does show it connected: [613884.099024] sd 19:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk
[01:22] <Speedy2> navetz: That's a bad sign, and probably why KDE can't mount it
[01:22] <Speedy2> navetz: Try to manual mount it in /mnt
[01:22] <navetz> Speedy2: I don't know where it is though. is it /dev/sda1 or something
[01:23] <Speedy2> navetz: you can use fdisk -l
[01:24] <navetz> Speedy2: which of these would it be:  http://pastebin.org/91790
[01:24] <navetz> it doesn't look like any of them
[01:24] <Speedy2> navetz: Give me your entire dmesg as well
[01:25] <Speedy2> "sda" is one drive, /sda1, /sda2, /sda3, /sda4 are the partitions and none of them are FAT, so 'sda' is not your drive.  I would guess 'sdb'
[01:25] <navetz> Speedy2: http://pastebin.org/91791
[01:27] <Speedy2><PHONE_NUMBER>77] sd 17:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk
[01:27] <Speedy2> 'sdd'
[01:27] <Speedy2> I would try to find out what that error means, but it's not a good sign.  Maybe the FAT is damaged.   I just got nbr:)
[02:09] <ujjain> Ubuntu has only open software, Kubuntu has closed software too, right?
[02:12] <ujjain> right right?
[02:12] <daskreech> ujjain: What?
[02:12] <ujjain> Ubuntu is open drivers only iirc.
[02:13] <ujjain> My installer does not recognize my wireless mouse/keyboard.
[02:18] <Fersure> ujjain: Both distros use the same repos.
[02:18] <Fersure> And both have repos for non-free software/drivers.
[02:18] <ujjain> I see :(
[02:18] <Fersure> but you can disable said repos
[02:18] <daskreech> ujjain: Ubuntu has closed drivers
[02:18] <Fersure> either before installation or after.
[02:19] <daskreech> under the restricted repos
[02:19] <Fersure> there's an option in the install for 'free software only'
[02:19] <ujjain> Yes, I did not select that
[02:19] <ujjain> but it still not not recognize my mouse/keyboard
[02:19] <ujjain> My last hope is burning again
[02:19] <daskreech> Run jockey (or jockey-kde) if you want to see the list of the ones detected for your computer
[02:22] <daskreech> ujjain: What kind of keyboard do you have?
[02:22] <ujjain> EX110 Logitech Wireless Desktop
[02:22] <ujjain> It is said to be supported
[02:23] <ujjain> I think my house is electric btw.
[02:25] <mjbrooks> I can't get the KDE4 compositing effect to run but direct rendering == yes in glxinfo... does anyone know if there is a known solution for this?
[02:25] <daskreech> ujjain: hrrm which CD are you using?
[02:25] <ujjain> Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop AMD
[02:25] <ujjain> I just reinstalled.
[02:26] <daskreech> ujjain: and you can't type anything?
[02:26] <ujjain> The mouse/keyboard stops working
[02:26] <daskreech> mjbrooks: what happens when you try and run it?
[02:26] <ujjain> when Ubuntu enters setup.
[02:26] <ujjain> 'install Ubuntu'
[02:26] <daskreech> ujjain: at what point?
[02:26] <ujjain> or when I click 'try Ubuntu'
[02:26] <daskreech> ha. Umm ok
[02:26] <ujjain> not click, use my keyboard to select 'try Ubuntu'
[02:26] <ujjain> and it loads the desktop, but the keyboard/mouse dont work from that point
[02:27] <daskreech> ok gimmie a moment
[02:28] <mjbrooks> daskreech, "Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Check you X configuration." Which I have, and I don't see anything missing there
[02:29] <daskreech> ujjain: I think you may need a cheat code
[02:29] <daskreech> mjbrooks: What version of KDE?
[02:30] <daskreech> ujjain: ok two questions. You have another keyboard somewhere you can use or another computer ?
[02:31] <mjbrooks> daskreech, KDE: 4.3.5
[02:32] <mjbrooks> daskreech, it's an old nvidia card, but it should work
[02:33] <ujjain> daskreech: I do not have another keyboard.
[02:34] <daskreech> mjbrooks: What Driver?
[02:34] <daskreech> mjbrooks: Might be a driver issue. You can check in #kwin for intricacies :)
[02:34] <daskreech> ujjain: and no other computer?
[02:35] <ujjain> No, my laptop is at Samsung RMA
[02:36] <daskreech> ujjain: Ah ok if you go into recovery mode from the CD does that also kil it?
[02:36] <mjbrooks> daskreech, Nvidia version 96 and it's installed and running
[02:36] <daskreech> Hm ok and other GL things work?
[02:37] <ujjain> daskreech: Never heard of recovery mode.
[02:37] <ujjain> but it works in windows.
[02:37] <mjbrooks> daskreech, glxgears works
[02:38] <Fersure> how do I upgrade to 10.04 alpha 2? I forgot how I did it for the Karmic Koala alpha.
[02:39] <ujjain> that went wrong.
[02:40] <mjbrooks> daskreech, normally I wouldn't bother with it, but I'm using this system as a backup while I deal with my laptop CPU fan dying suddenly and I miss my effects ;)
[02:50] <oggb4mp3> hey ho everyone
[02:50] <oggb4mp3> ever since I upgraded kde to 4.4 and qt to 4.6.1 I connot build amarok from git
[02:50] <oggb4mp3> I'm getting all kinds of phonon errors and I am looking for clues
[02:51] <oggb4mp3> here is the console output http://amarok.pastebin.ca/1796880
[02:58] <oggb4mp3> amarok guys sent me here
[02:58] <oggb4mp3> I think I am missing some phonon dev files
[02:58] <bbeck> Does anyone know how the geolocaton dataengine works?  Will the location values change as I roam?
[03:01] <vbgunz> I dont mean to be making plugs but can someone check this link out in Konqueror preferably on 4.4. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/14/rachel-maddow-stuns-rep-a_n_461885.html?container=friendconnect&mid=0&nocache=0&view=profile&parent=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/&url=http://www.google.com/friendconnect/gadgets/osapi-0.8.xml&communityId=04088136628274011020&caller=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/14/rachel-maddow-stuns-rep-a_n_461885.html?
[03:01] <vbgunz> container=friendconnect&mid=0&nocache=0&view=profile&parent=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/&url=http://www.google.com/friendconnect/gadgets/osapi-0.8.xml&communityId=04088136628274011020&caller=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/14/rachel-maddow-stuns-rep-a_n_461885.html?container=friendconnect&mid=0&nocache=0&view=profile&parent=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/&url=http://www.google.com/friendconnect/gadgets/osapi-0.8.xml&communityId=04088136628274011020&
[03:01] <FloodBotK3> vbgunz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <MuffinPimp> wow that's a long link
[03:02] <vbgunz> sorry about that...
[03:02] <vbgunz> I didn't know it was that long
[03:02] <MuffinPimp> Lol
[03:02] <MuffinPimp> I'll try it out
[03:02] <vbgunz> visiting that page in konqueror 4.4 makes konqueror chug along hard. :(
[03:03] <vbgunz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/376597/ thats the link
[03:03] <vbgunz> whats happening, why is konqueror so slow and choking so bad?
[03:04] <bbeck> Sorry, should have used google.  According to Cole's blog it's done by GPS or IP address.
[03:04] <Wolfcastle> hello
[03:04] <MuffinPimp> vbgunz: It loaded fine for me
[03:04] <Wolfcastle> i just added ppa to update to kde 4.4
[03:04] <Wolfcastle> but the updates show I'm updatingto 4.3.5
[03:04] <Wolfcastle> what's up with that
[03:05] <vbgunz> yeah but I guess maybe leave it alone long enough to read the article. Its killing my konqueror 4.4
[03:05] <vbgunz> Wolfcastle: you using apt-get to update?
[03:05] <vbgunz> I mean, have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade and see what happens?
[03:05] <Wolfcastle> nop aptitude
[03:06] <Wolfcastle> yes i tried aptitude dist-upgrade now and it's installing 4.3.5
[03:06] <MuffinPimp> Wolfcastle: try aptitude full-upgrade
[03:06] <Wolfcastle> ok I'll try that when it finishes
[03:06] <Wolfcastle> don't want to interrupt
[03:06] <MuffinPimp> ok
[03:08] <vbgunz> anyhow, I closed the page. not sure what then causes konqueror to move slow like molasses but when it happens its disappointing :/
[03:16] <ujjain> Guess what OS I am using!
[03:17] <MuffinPimp> ujjain: kubuntu?
[03:17] <daskreech> That's a distro not an OS
[03:17] <daskreech> ujjain: Mac! :)
[03:18] <MuffinPimp> Lol
[03:18] <ujjain> MuffinPimp: I wished. It does not recognize my wireless mouse/keyboard.
[03:18] <ujjain> I use CentOS as a desktop, it's strange, but itś faster than Ubuntu and Centos in VMWare.
[03:18] <daskreech> ujjain: Sorry My network went nuts I just got it back :-(
[03:18] <ujjain> np
[03:18] <ujjain> I would love to use Ubuntu.
[03:19] <daskreech> ujjain: Can You look at the xorg.conf that it generates?
[03:19] <daskreech> and what version of Xorg it's using?
[03:19] <ujjain> Ok,
[03:20] <ujjain> running updatedb to find the xorg.conf file.
[03:21] <ujjain> Section "InputDevice"
[03:21] <ujjain>         Identifier  "Keyboard0"
[03:21] <ujjain>         Driver      "kbd"
[03:21] <ujjain>         Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
[03:21] <ujjain>         Option      "XkbLayout" "us"
[03:21] <FloodBotK3> ujjain: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <ujjain>         Option      "XkbVariant" "intl"
[03:21] <ujjain> EndSection
[03:22] <ujjain> It cannot be that complex.
[03:23] <daskreech> ujjain: ha I think that xkbModel "pc105" is what Ubuntu is missing
[03:23] <ujjain> So, how do I install Ubuntu
[03:23] <daskreech> ujjain: But if you copy that xorg.conf it should work on Ubuntu if you like
[03:23] <ujjain> with that addition?
[03:23] <ujjain> How?
[03:23] <ujjain> After installation? I cannot install.
[03:24] <daskreech> ujjain: That's the tricky part :) you need to get it on the machine without a keyboard which means ssh or having another keyboard so I guess CentOS is yours for now
[03:24] <MuffinPimp> Do you not have a wired keyboard?
[03:24] <ujjain> I don't want to keep on using CentOS :(
[03:24] <ujjain> I do not have a wired keyboard.
[03:24] <ujjain> I think Ubuntu should be able to support my extremely popular keyboard
[03:25] <MuffinPimp> what is it?
[03:25] <MuffinPimp> also what is your mouse?
[03:25] <daskreech> ujjain: It apprently should but some people have  a conflict with the BIOS and Grub that drops certain keyboards
[03:25] <ujjain> It's part of a set.
[03:25] <daskreech> Yours is one of them
[03:25] <ujjain> Also part of EX110
[03:26] <ujjain> I use Grub with CentOS now.
[03:27] <daskreech> Yeah I don't quite get it either. I don't know if it's because Ubuntu is using Grub2 now
[03:27] <MuffinPimp> as of karmic ubuntu uses grub2
[03:27] <ujjain> I tried a new Ubuntu disk
[03:27] <ujjain> btw: Fedora did not work either.
[03:28] <ujjain> Fedora12.
[03:28] <ujjain> nor did Kubuntu, nor did Ubuntu (tried 2 dvdś)
[03:28] <ujjain> but CentOS did work.
[03:28] <MuffinPimp> Does Fedora12 use grub2?
[03:28] <daskreech> ujjain: Grub2 would be common in all those
[03:28] <ujjain> I do not know.
[03:28] <daskreech> ujjain: You could grab a LTS CD and then upgrade if that works
[03:29] <ujjain> Would it have a chance? 8.04 to 9.10?
[03:29] <ujjain> I should try to install 8.02
[03:29] <daskreech> ujjain: Yes you can upgrade like that
[03:29] <daskreech> to tell the truth that's what I did to avoid using grub2 >_>
[03:30] <ujjain> Hmm,, I will do that then!
[03:31] <MuffinPimp> I have had no problems with grub2
[03:31] <daskreech> ujjain: if you have the 9.10 cd and you do a recovrey option and the keyboard works then you can try the 9.10 Server/Alternate CD as well
[03:31] <daskreech> Wait you have a DVD right?
[03:31] <ujjain> Yes
[03:32] <daskreech> You said the install Ubuntu freezs up
[03:32] <daskreech> that just gives you a menu right ?
[03:33] <ujjain> I get the menu.
[03:33] <KDesk_> I removed my .kde folder, and now I get in the plama clock the utc time. Now it is 22:34, but it says 03:34, how can change this?
[03:33] <ujjain> I choose 'install Ubuntu'
[03:33] <ujjain> it loads 60 seconds
[03:33] <ujjain> and it lists left-menu languages
[03:34] <ujjain> and my mouse and keyboard do not work
[03:34] <ujjain> 'try Ubuntu' loads 60 seconds, and loads Ubuntu desktop perfectly
[03:34] <ujjain> and then mouse/keyboard do not owork
[03:37] <ujjain> daskreech: Any idea?
[03:38] <Nafri> hello, i am using kubuntu 9.10. I've just updated my kde to kde4.4 but just after login everythign turns black and kde desktop doesn't load. Although i can run all the application using Alt +F2 but there is no desktop, no task/application bar nothing
[03:38] <ujjain> Is there any way I can make sure who is operator in a channel btw? I have the urge to insult somebody in a channel.
[03:43] <ujjain> HOw do I start Nautilus in GNOME?
[03:47] <MuffinPimp> Why does KDE4.4 fail to connect to pool.ntp.org
[03:47] <ujjain> Maybe it's overloaded?
[03:47] <ujjain> Try ntp.demon.nl
[03:47] <ujjain> timeout here too
[03:48] <MuffinPimp> How do I specify a custom one?
[03:49] <ujjain> rdate -s ntp.demon.nl
[03:49] <ujjain> in terminal
[03:49] <ujjain> but with ntp? uhhh, ntpdate, I am not sure, I had to google that myself
[03:49] <ujjain> rdate is only 1-time
[03:49] <ujjain> and you dont want to use cronjobs for that, ntp is great for that
[03:50] <MuffinPimp> mmk
[03:50] <KDesk_> Nafri: then the problem is that plasma doesn't start
[03:51] <ujjain> MuffinPimp: ntpdate ntp.demon.nl try that!
[03:51] <ujjain> apt-get install ntp
[03:51] <MuffinPimp> k
[03:51] <MuffinPimp> It is installed
[03:51] <Xiella> I can't uninstall a package (GIMP) - kpackagekit says "Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend. Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open." - I am using no other packaging tools on a fresh restart.  Please advise how to uninstall.  Thanks in advance.
[03:52] <Nafri> KDesk_ : any solution?
[03:52] <KDesk_> Nafri: are you there? Try  removing (or moving) the plasma config files so that it starts with the default config
[03:52] <KDesk_> ah
[03:52] <KDesk_> Nafri:  in a konsole: rm .kde/share/config/plasma*
[03:52] <Nafri> KDesk_ which folder do i need to move/remove? i've already moved .kde and .config
[03:52] <Nafri> ohk
[03:53] <Nafri> KDesk_ : but i've already moved that folder
[03:53] <Nafri> and restarted
[03:53] <KDesk_> Nafri: if you have alredy do that, then lets see if plasma ir running.
[03:53] <KDesk_> Nafri: ps ax |grep plasma
[03:54] <hagabaka> ugh, why won't akonadi/nepomuk stop giving me errors!
[03:54] <Nafri> root@irfan-laptop:~# ps ax |grep plasma
[03:54] <Nafri>  2179 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep plasma
[03:54] <Nafri> root@irfan-laptop:~#
[03:54] <Nafri> no it's not
[03:54] <FloodBotK3> Nafri: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <KDesk_> Nafri: if there is no plasma-desktop or plasma-netbook, then it is not running, The start it to see the out put.:   plasma-desktop &
[03:54] <Nafri> KDesk_ : there?
[03:55] <KDesk_> Nafri: maybe you don't have all the kde 4.4 packages, maybe some are kde 4.3
[03:56] <MuffinPimp> ujjain: Well I think it's a bug with kde because "sudo ntpdate north-america.pool.ntp.org" works fine but it fails when using the Date & Time to sync
[03:56] <ujjain> I am not sure, I think ntp is a daemon
[03:57] <Nafri> KDesk_  : it saying plasma-desktop is not installed and you can install it by sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace-bin
[03:57] <Nafri> KDesk_ : i updated to kde4.4 as instructed on kubuntu website by adding backports
[03:58] <KDesk_> Nafri: then that is the packages that is missing, install it and also kubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <Nafri> KDesk_ : i've http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu added in my kpackage list
[03:58] <Nafri> and now when i search for updates on kpackage edit it just shows some blocked updates
[03:59] <KDesk_> Nafri: try using aptitude: sudo aptitude  Then you will get a semi graphic interface to apt
[03:59] <Xiella> Hmm, I can't uninstall anything.  kpackagekit says "Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend. Please close any other legacy packaging tools."  How to uninstall?  Thanks in advance..
[04:01] <Nafri> KDesk_ : now it showing "upgradeable packages" and "KDE desktop system" is also in the list
[04:01] <Nafri> how can i upgrade now?
[04:01] <KDesk_> Xiella: I think if you log out and log in again you will be able to use kpackagekit, but If you can right now not log out, then you should close other apps like synaptic or apt.
[04:02] <KDesk_> Nafri: using aptitude?
[04:02] <Xiella> KDesk_: I have no other packaging tools open - fresh restart.
[04:02] <Nafri> KDesk_: yup
[04:02] <Nafri> KDesk_: but these packages are 4.3.5
[04:02] <KDesk_> Nafri: type:  g
[04:03] <KDesk_> Nafri: in the upgradeale packages section type  +  so that all those get upgraded, then   g  and the   g   again
[04:04] <Nafri> KDesk_: yup it's downloading
[04:04] <Xiella> KDesk_: I also tried to uninstall via command line (after closing the GUI) using apt-get remove gimp.  it said dpkg was interrupted.  it suggested i ran sudo dpkg --configure -a.  that was also interrupted due to no boot space.
[04:04] <KDesk_> Xiella: maybe if you try in a konsole:  killall kpackagekit
[04:04] <Xiella> Okay
[04:04] <KDesk_> Xiella: do you have a /boot partition?
[04:05] <Xiella> KDesk_: Yes, I do, and it's at 100% capacity.
[04:05] <Xiella> KDesk_: according to df -h
[04:05] <KDesk_> Xiella: hmm, that is bad. How many MB is the partition?
[04:05] <Xiella> KDesk_: killall kpackagekit says no process found
[04:06] <Xiella> KDesk_: 15 MB.  I recently upgraded to kernel ....19 without thinking, and i hadn't deleted previous headers.
[04:06] <Xiella> uh
[04:06] <Xiella> let me check the size
[04:06] <KDesk_> Xiella: ps ax |grep packagekit    ?
[04:06] <Xiella> KDesk_: /boot is 76 MB
[04:07] <KDesk_> Xiella: my boot with 2 kernels is 15MB of data
[04:07] <Xiella> KDesk_: 9900 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep packagekit
[04:07] <KDesk_> Xiella: what is the output of:  du -h /boot/*
[04:08] <Xiella> fills the screen
[04:08] <Xiella> did you want me to paste?
[04:08] <KDesk_> Xiella: yes please
[04:09] <Xiella> KDesk_: http://pastebin.com/m77eed924
[04:10] <KDesk_> Xiella: ok, then lets remove old kernels :)
[04:11] <Xiella> KDesk_: okay :) I'm not sure where to begin though.  I still can't uninstall anything.
[04:11] <KDesk_> Xiella: wait :)
[04:11] <Xiella> KDesk_: Thank you :)
[04:12] <KDesk_> Xiella:  sudo dpkg -r linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic
[04:12] <KDesk_> Nafri did the upgrade/install work?
[04:13] <Xiella> KDesk_: Done, thank you! -14 is removed.  Should I continue likewise with the other headers?
[04:13] <KDesk_> Xiella: so, you can not have more that 4 kernels, but you only need 1. I have always 2 installed, in case one doesn't work, so I can still boot with the other.
[04:14] <KDesk_> Xiella: yes, 15, 16 and 17
[04:14] <Xiella> KDesk_: Okay.  Thank you very much.  I will do that now!!  (and in the future.)
[04:14] <KDesk_> Xiella: I am glad that it worked
[04:16] <KDesk_> Xiella: you can also do it with "sudo aptitude purge package" or  "sudo apt-get purge package"
[04:19] <Xiella> KDesk_: Finished.  Thanks so much!  I will remember that too.  Also, I can now uninstall the package.  Let me try reinstalling and opening it.
[04:20] <Wolfcastle> sweet kde 4.4 feels really smooth
[04:20] <KDesk> Xiella: but remember, you need at least one kernel!  :)
[04:21] <Xiella> KDesk: Heh, good advice :)
[04:22] <Wolfcastle> have you noticed that the text is white over a white background in the config window of quicksand?
[04:28] <Xiella> Hmm... another question...  I successfully patched gimp 2.6.6 manually.  but then i accidentally upgraded to the unpatched 2.6.7 using kpackagekit.  Now it won't open and says the older library doesn't match the newer version.  Suggested duplicate libraries in /usr (the newer library) and /usr/local (the older).  Is it dangerous to just delete the ones I don't want or is there a way of properly fixing the mismatch?
[04:32] <Wolfcastle> has anyone gotten nepomuk/strigi to work in kde 4.4?
[04:32] <Wolfcastle> I get a message saying nepomuk has not been started
[04:33] <KDesk> Wolfcastle: I haven't. But I disable this (until some time when it works) in System Settings, don't remember exactly where.
[04:34] <KDesk> Xiella: do you patched gimp and installed it from sources
[04:34] <Wolfcastle> hmm ok I had read that nepomuk would work out of the box in kde 4.4
[04:34] <Wolfcastle> too bad
[04:34] <Wolfcastle> or at least that there were some improvements
[04:34] <Xiella> KDesk: Yes, from deb and diff iirc
[04:35] <KDesk> Wolfcastle: maybe you can make it work easy, but don't know how, maybe at kubuntu-forums or kde forums you can find some giud.
[04:35] <Wolfcastle> ok thanx
[04:35] <KDesk> Xiella: do you still have the archives?
[04:36] <Xiella> KDesk: I don't know what you mean by archives sorry
[04:36] <KDesk> Xiella: I mean the deb, diff, those files that you patched
[04:37] <Xiella> Yes, I do
[04:37] <Xiella> KDesk ^
[04:37] <KDesk> then you can simply reinstall them. I think it should be no problem
[04:39] <Xiella> Oh good :) i will do that instead.  Cheers and thanks for everything!
[04:40] <KDesk> Xiella :-)
[04:40] <Xiella> KDesk: See you round :)
[05:35] <jschall> I have a regular kubuntu install cd, and I'm trying to install on a system with an nvidia 6800gt (i think). I can select either "install kubuntu" or "try kubuntu without any change" and they both take me to a TTY. Based on my google search, I'm guessing its an nvidia driver issue and the recommended approach is get the alternate install cd. Is there any way I could either: get the nvidia driver and then install using the gui, or install
[05:35] <jschall>  without a gui using the regular install cd? I'd prefer not to have to download the alt install cd (i have slow internet)
[05:35] <jschall> yay essays!
[05:57] <Wolfcastle> I have a problem with samba
[05:57] <Wolfcastle> I'm trying to access a shared folder in windows
[05:57] <Stevan> hey can someone help me get my external hard drive to work? its a usb drive and its not being reconginzed when I plug it in.
[05:57] <Wolfcastle> but it keeps asking me for a user and password
[05:57] <Wolfcastle> any idea why this could be?
[06:12] <RickX> can anyone point me to docs on how to upgrade from kde 4.1 to 4.4?
[06:17] <wein_> #grub
[06:38] <Stevan> can someone help me get my external usb hard drive working? it doesn't automatically detect and I can't find it.
[06:43] <wein_> Does someone know if the Kubuntu setup keeps a copy of the MBR that grub overwrites?
[06:44] <Stevan> fdisk -l does not detect my external hard drive plugged in through usb. Any one know what I can try to fix this?
[06:47] <wein_> I wanted to try Kubuntu, and successfully installed it on an USB hard drive.  Is there any backup? Please, anyone?
[06:49] <Wolfcastle> wein_: I remember you could reinstall the windows mbr from the windows installation cd
[06:49] <Wolfcastle> it has some rescue option
[06:50] <wein_> The problem is that I have some corporate encryption software
[06:50] <wein_> and I basically just messed up a company computer...
[06:50] <wein_> do you know if the installer keeps a backup of the MBR it overwrites?
[06:51] <wein_> the encryption software comes before WIndows (prompting for a password)
[06:51] <wein_> so neither a Windows CD or grub would recognize anything on that drive
[06:53] <Wolfcastle> oh then I can't help you sorry
[06:54] <jnewt> where's the command prompt!
[07:01] <iconmefisto> jnewt: konsole
[07:02] <iconmefisto> jnewt: alt+F2 and type konsole
[07:04] <clone1018> I need some help using 2 monitors (1600x900 and 1280x800)
[07:04] <clone1018> I can't get kubuntu to realize its 2 different monitors
[07:04] <jnewt> thanks iconmefisto .
[07:05] <clone1018> And I tried clicking Multiple Monitors but it says you do not appear to have this config.
[07:06] <iconmefisto> clone1018: both monitors plugged in and switched on?
[07:06] <clone1018> yes lol
[07:06] <clone1018> Its on mirror mode right now
[07:09] <naruto> ciao
[07:09] <naruto> !list
[07:10] <james_l> jschall: still having problems?
[07:10] <kaniini> fast visit
[07:34] <|MA|> hi all
[07:43] <|MA|> i have this strange issue that's bothering me ...
[07:43] <|MA|> I am building the kernel
[07:44] <|MA|> make menuconfig asks me to Install ncurses (ncurses-devel) and try again
[07:44] <|MA|> but:
[07:44] <|MA|> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[07:44] <|MA|> libncurses5-dev is already the newest version.
[07:44] <|MA|> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
[07:45] <|MA|> any idea, what's going on and how i can get ncurses to "work" again ?
[07:49] <iconmefisto> lib64ncurses5-dev? 64bit?
[07:49] <|MA|> amd64, yes
[07:49] <|MA|> whereis libcurses
[07:49] <|MA|> libcurses: /usr/lib/libcurses.so /usr/lib/libcurses.a /usr/lib64/libcurses.so /usr/lib64/libcurses.a
[07:50] <|MA|> whereis libncurses
[07:50] <|MA|> libncurses: /usr/lib/libncurses.a /usr/lib/libncurses.so /usr/lib64/libncurses.a /usr/lib64/libncurses.so
[07:50] <|MA|> seems the header package was removed ... ??
[07:50] <|MA|> don't understand what really happened ?
[07:51] <77CAAEOM5> hrey guys
[07:52] <|MA|> iconmefisto, there's a package by name lib64ncurses5-dev ?
[07:52] <|MA|> E: Couldn't find package lib64ncurses5-dev
[07:52] <iconmefisto> |MA|: I just did apt-cache search and found that
[07:54] <iconmefisto> !info lib64ncurses5-dev
[07:54] <|MA|> seems I have: lib32ncurses5-dev - developer's libraries for ncurses (32-bit)
[07:56] <|MA|> wondering how it worked 2 days before ....
[07:57] <infect3d> just installed a new theme and I am not able to find the multiple destop widget on the panle
[07:57] <infect3d> *panel
[07:57] <infect3d> any1 know how to get it?
[07:58] <|MA|> ubottu, I have main enabled in Kpackagejit
[07:58] <|MA|> Kpackagekit
[07:59] <iconmefisto> infect3d: add the pager widget to your panel
[08:03] <infect3d> iconmefisto: thx
[08:10] <viashino> i installed VLC on kubuntu and no sound are coming out ... but the dragon player have sound, but no subs ... how i fix the sound on VLC ?
[08:14] <iconmefisto> viashino: try different audo outputs in vlc prefs
[08:15] <|MA|> iconmefisto, any idea on the ncurses ?
[08:16] <|MA|> I have:
[08:16] <|MA|> ls /usr/lib/libncurses*
[08:16] <|MA|> /usr/lib/libncurses.a    /usr/lib/libncurses++_g.a  /usr/lib/libncurses++w.a    /usr/lib/libncursesw_g.a
[08:16] <|MA|> /usr/lib/libncurses++.a  /usr/lib/libncurses.so     /usr/lib/libncursesw.a      /usr/lib/libncursesw.so
[08:16] <|MA|> /usr/lib/libncurses_g.a  /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5   /usr/lib/libncurses++w_g.a
[08:16] <FloodBotK3> |MA|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <|MA|> http://pastebin.com/d19c94ad0
[08:17] <|MA|> starting to get sick of the distro ... :-(
[08:18] <|MA|> here's the complete issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/376717/
[08:19] <|MA|> Is it a buggy kernel script ?
[08:22] <iconmefisto> |MA|: what about installing lib64ncurses5-dev ?
[08:23] <|MA|> iconmefisto, one moment
[08:23] <viashino> yeah ... still not working
[08:24] <viashino> vlc with no sound, dragonplayer with no subs
[08:24] <viashino> :~
[08:24] <|MA|> iconmefisto, no luck
[08:24] <|MA|> http://paste.ubuntu.com/376722/
[08:24] <iconmefisto> viashino: what does "no subs" mean? subtitles?
[08:24] <viashino> yes
[08:25] <viashino> .srt
[08:25] <iconmefisto> viashino: I think with vlc you need to close and restart it when changing settings. the alsa output should work, or the pulseaudio output if you have pulseaudio installed
[08:26] <viashino> i tried to restart, reboot, etc
[08:26] <viashino> the wiki says to install a plugin that is not on synaptic
[08:27] <viashino> and i gonna install the pulseaudio now ^
[08:27] <ghostcube> ????
[08:27] <ghostcube> for what
[08:28] <viashino> done, now i have noise .... hauhauahuaha
[08:28] <|MA|> iconmefisto, any further thoughts ?
[08:29] <ghostcube> viashino: what is your problem
[08:29] <iconmefisto> |MA|: that package seems to be for 32bit, so that's probably why you can't install it :) http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/lib64ncurses5-dev
[08:29] <viashino> my draongplayer dont show substitles, and my VLC dont have sound ... i want to fix the VLC
[08:30] <|MA|> I will try downloading and doing a dpkg for that package ...
[08:30] <|MA|> don't know what distro's are doing ....
[08:31] <|MA|> really makes people crazy
[08:33] <ghostcube> viashino: maybe its a problem inside the codecs you run
[08:33] <|MA|> ugh ! it states it's for 64bit, but architecture is i386 ??
[08:33] <ghostcube> i wouldnt tell you to install pulseaudio into kde
[08:33] <viashino> is the same file im oppening with both players
[08:33] <ghostcube> viashino: open systemsettings multimedia and tell me whats the first device used for audio
[08:34] <ghostcube> |MA|: you installed 32 bit libs into 64 bit system
[08:34] <ghostcube> and what ae you going to install
[08:34] <viashino> HDA nvidia (working fine)
[08:35] <ghostcube> analog or digital
[08:35] <viashino> analog
[08:35] <|MA|> ghostcube: my issue is http://pastebin.com/d19c94ad0
[08:36] <|MA|> sorry, here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/376717/
[08:37] <viashino> oops
[08:37] <|MA|> ghostcube: complete issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/376717/
[08:37] <viashino> dont know what happens now
[08:39] <viashino> ok, try to fix that is consuming much of my valuable time .... i accept sugestions of a video player with subtitle support that works :¬P
[08:40] <ghostcube> xine
[08:40] <ghostcube> |MA|: and ncurses-devel isnt available
[08:41] <|MA|> ghostcube: it says E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel
[08:42] <ghostcube> ncurses-dev ?
[08:42] <viashino> xine is simple video player ?
[08:42] <|MA|> ghostcube: it says
[08:42] <|MA|> libncurses5-dev is already the newest version.
[08:42] <|MA|> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
[08:42] <ghostcube> |MA|: #ubtuntu-kernel :)
[08:43] <ghostcube> |MA|: #ubuntu-kernel :)
[08:43] <|MA|> ghostcube, ok, thanks
[08:43] <ghostcube> i think they can tell you more about
[08:44] <|MA|> ok, thanks... was loosing my mind on this  thing ....
[08:49] <ghostcube> strange question ut how to addd plasma themes in 4.4 final i havent found the button for adding
[08:55] <infect3d> ghostcube: system settings--appearance---styles
[08:55] <ghostcube> yeah then plasma but you only can change them not load new ones
[08:55] <infect3d> get new themes
[08:56] <infect3d> should download new ones
[08:56] <ghostcube> in 4.4 final ?
[08:56] <ghostcube> hmm ok must check thx
[08:56] <ghostcube> havent seen yesterday any possibility to do so
[08:56] <infect3d> yh
[08:56] <infect3d> it's there
[08:56] <ghostcube> ok :)
[09:01] <iconmefisto> infect3d: you can't download new ones there
[09:02] <koltroll> anyone in here using Eclipse?
[09:05] <iconmefisto> ghostcube: you can do apt-cache search kde-style  to find more to install
[09:05] <ghostcube> iconmefisto: thx :) i havent seen the buttons to dl inside systemsettings :)
[09:11] <viashino> wohooo
[09:11] <viashino> lucky fix :¬P
[09:11] <iconmefisto> what did you do viashino?
[09:12] <viashino> i clicked radomly a lot of thing in kmix
[09:12] <viashino> now its working
[09:12] <viashino> :¬P
[09:12] <viashino> ah changed from 2ch to 6 ch
[09:12] <viashino> i dont know exactly why it worked ....
[09:14] <viashino> and now i dont want to see that movie ... futurama is on tv .. hehehe
[09:14] <iconmefisto> lol
[09:18] <viashino> where i change the shutdown countdown from 30 secs to 5 ?
[09:18] <infect3d> is there any better client than quassels?
[09:20] <ghostcube> infect3d: xchat, konersation ?
[09:20] <ghostcube> but quasel is ok so far for me
[09:20] <infect3d> quassel isnt really working 4 me isnt xchat for gnome?
[09:21] <iconmefisto> infect3d: konversation was the default irc client in kde3. it's been ported to kde4 now
[09:22] <FeasibilityStudy> Use Kvirc, by far the best IRC client I have used on KDE
[09:22] <iconmefisto> kvirc is the colourful one, right?
[09:23] <FeasibilityStudy> go to #kvirc
[09:23] <FeasibilityStudy> yeah
[09:24]  * Oxymoron wonders if the developers are going to achieve the 10 second budget for the 9.10 release :P
[09:24] <Oxymoron> *10.04, sorry :D
[09:24] <FeasibilityStudy> Ive yet to experience any significant speed-up in boot times with either Jaunty or Karmic
[09:24] <FeasibilityStudy> They are both the same to me, and both about the same as previous editions
[09:25] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: 10 second startup?
[09:25] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Look #kde-offtopic
[09:26] <Tm_T> Oxymoron: iconmefisto: #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:29] <infect3d> FeasibilityStudy : I ll give kvirc a try
[09:29] <FeasibilityStudy> You will like it after you get it customized.  I hate their yellow background so I changed that right away ;)
[09:41] <lalalol> who can help me with my kubuntu problems? the first is getting wifi to work
[09:50] <berserkfury> Hay is there something wrong with the Hardware Driver installer
[09:50] <berserkfury> ?
[09:51] <berserkfury> I can't seem to activate my ATI drivers after doing a fresh install
[09:57] <berserkfury> Hay is there something wrong with the Hardware Driver installer?
[09:57] <lalalol> they ignore you
[09:57] <lalalol> just like me
[09:58] <petsounds> berserkfury, did you update your sources.list?
[09:59] <kaddi_> lalalol: maybe try wicd instead of network-manager. solved all my problems with wifi
[09:59] <berserkfury> petsounds: how do I do that?
[09:59] <berserkfury> Sorry im a noob here
[10:00] <lalalol> kaddi, explain plz, im pretty new lol
[10:00] <petsounds> berserkfury, open terminal then type    sudo apt-get update
[10:00] <petsounds> then run   jockey-kde
[10:01] <kaddi_> lalalol: i uninstalled the current network client which is called network-manager and installed wicd instead. you should be able to find it in the repositories
[10:01] <lalalol> whats a repository?
[10:01] <mitjab> HEY ALL
[10:01] <patrikr> hallo
[10:01] <patrikr> maderfakers
[10:01] <mitjab> leja rebrco
[10:02] <patrikr> kva dugaja modeli?
[10:02] <kaddi_> lalalol: how do you usually install programs?
[10:02] <lalalol> idk
[10:02] <mitjab> patrik... lejga!
[10:02] <berserkfury> petsounds: I did what you said, and when I hit the activate button nothing happens
[10:03] <mitjab> berserkfury
[10:03] <mitjab> i challenge you
[10:03] <lalalol> but kaddi_ ill just install that other network thing, no need to uninstall the current one
[10:03] <berserkfury> Lol to what?
[10:03] <petsounds> berserkfury, humm. did you see the recommended driver?
[10:03] <kaddi_> lalalol: they are incompatible.  Since 2 days one of my partition is not mounted and also not visible through fdisk. When i run knoppix i see the partition and also the data. Now i started my kubuntu again and with "top" i see that fsck is running and i guess it checks this partition in the background
[10:04] <lalalol> ok
[10:04] <Manchy> what is your mothers name?
[10:04] <kaddi_> lalalol: if you want to try a gnome app try installing nm-applet for network manager, that may work
[10:05] <lalalol> kaddi_: did u get my pm?
[10:05] <Manchy> no i will try blood elf rogue
[10:05] <model> due....
[10:05] <model> gnomish engineering sucks
[10:05] <petsounds> berserkfury, really sorry m8 i don't have any experience with ati but you can take a look at this
[10:05] <petsounds> !ati > berserkfury
[10:05] <model> no freaking way
[10:06] <Manchy> patrikr je kmet
[10:06] <berserkfury> Thank you
[10:06] <Manchy> good ally is dead ally
[10:07] <replman> ps says: "fsck -a -C9 -t ext3 /dev/sda5"
[10:07] <replman> and sda5 is the partition i don't see anymore
[10:07] <petsounds> !si > Manchy
[10:07] <replman> Now it's gone and the partition is mounted...lol
[10:08] <besitzer> moin
[10:12] <ithelpdesk> hi
[10:13] <ithelpdesk> how can i add the windows claint with ubuntu system
[10:39] <iGadget> hi
[10:41] <iGadget> just installed KDE4.4 from the backports repo... gotta say, it surely has improved :)
[10:42] <iGadget> been working with gnome mostly, but tried KDE4 several times
[10:42] <iGadget> one more shot with 4.4 now :)
[10:50] <ghostcube> :)
[11:00] <iGadget> amarok needs some getting used to, though...
[11:01] <iGadget> for some strange reason it just stops playing after every track
[11:01] <fr33think3r> The suspend widget states that its meant to be added to the screensaver, so that you don't have to unlock to suspend the laptop, however I don't even see it as an option when I look up the widget list for the screensaver. Why is that? Infact quite a few widgets are not available in the screensaver mode
[11:04] <lalalol> who can help me with my wifi problem?
[11:04] <lalalol> iconmefisto: u wanna continue?
[11:18] <lalalol> hello??????
[11:24] <iconmefisto> gotta go right now. back in 1-2 hours
[11:31] <[-Haza-]> to restart ssh: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart  ???
[11:36] <fale> I've updated my karmic + kubuntu-backports yesterday and now I can't start kde :( someone released a new package to fix this?
[11:37] <james_l> I think based upon seeing other messages you need to purge kdm then reinstall kdm.
[11:37] <fale> james_l: oh, I see, thankyou :)
[11:37] <james_l> Not sure that'll do it, but that's what I've mostly seen others giving for advice.
[11:41] <koltroll> What do you people use to administrate apache? I'd like some GUI. I find it a pain when I add a site and then haft to make a link to sites-enabled, and then restart apache and so on. Everything from konsol.
[11:47] <fale> koltroll: check out isp-control
[11:47] <koltroll> will do, cheers
[11:47] <fale> ;)
[11:49] <lalalol> who wants to help me with wifi problems?
[11:49] <lalalol> i installed Wicd
[11:50] <lalalol_> back
[11:50] <lalalol_> got dc'ed
[11:51] <fatum> When adding a spacer onto a panel, the spacer is visible.  That's really annoying.  How can I move the wigits around without the spacer being visible?  kde 4.3
[11:52] <fatum> I would like it to be kde 4.4, but the last time I attempted to install 4.4, my installation was bricked.
[11:53] <lalalol_> cmon guys help me plz
[11:59] <james_l> lalalol_: What are you trying to connect to? unecrypted, wep (64-bit), 128-bit wep, or wpa?
[11:59] <lalalol_> james_l: WPA2-PSK
[12:00] <lalalol_> im connected to that modem with a cable now
[12:00] <james_l> Well, haven't connected to that and had any problems, so I can't really help. I will say I found wicd not to be useful.
[12:00] <james_l> In one case, a friend's 64-bit wep, I just have a command that kills network-manager, and sets it manually.
[12:00] <james_l> You might try that.
[12:01] <lalalol_> i think the nm got uninstalled
[12:02] <lalalol_> cuz i installed wicd
[12:03] <fatum> Why is the spacer visible?
[12:03] <fatum> How can I make it not visible?
[12:03] <fatum> On the bottom panel.
[12:04] <fatum> I won't see why someone would want to see the spacer after you're done moving objects.
[12:07] <alvin> When starting Kopete, Kontact also starts up. Is that intentional?
[12:07] <lalalol_> alvin, i remember u
[12:07] <lalalol_> can u help me with my wifi
[12:08] <alvin> I've never had much troubles with wifi. Just click on your network and type in the key
[12:08] <lalalol_> the wifi doesnt show up
[12:08] <alvin> Oh, is it a driver issue?
[12:08] <lalalol_> i think so
[12:08] <lalalol_> dunno
[12:09] <lalalol_> someone advized me to install wicd
[12:09] <alvin> look at your logs then
[12:09] <lalalol_> but it cant it either
[12:09] <lalalol_> how?
[12:09] <alvin> Don't. I have no experience with it. wicd is not the default in Kubuntu. You need it if you want to have network before KDE starts.
[12:09] <alvin> how? wel, ksystemlog
[12:09] <alvin> You need /var/log/messages
[12:10] <lalalol_> huh?
[12:10] <lalalol_> i opened the log thing
[12:11] <iGadget> geez... Amarok album cover download is seriously bugged
[12:17] <iGadget> so... what´s the proven way of working with media (music, video) which are on a NAS when working on a KDE box?
[12:18] <iGadget> I experience a rather... less pleasant user experience comparing with Windows / Mac OSX
[12:18] <Ash-Fox> I would say efficiency.
[12:19] <iGadget> in the latter, I just point to the shared media in the program of my choosing and I´m done. How should this work in KDE?
[12:20] <Ash-Fox> You navigate to the shared media and double click the icon.
[12:20] <Ash-Fox> Or right click -> open with
[12:20] <Ash-Fox> Note that I only use LTS versions of Kubuntu.
[12:21] <zubin71> hi, i just did tried to do an upgrade to KDE 4.4 via the terminal
[12:21] <alvin> I use another method. Install mt-daapd on your nas. Amarok will see that
[12:21] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: that´s what I figured. But not so with KDE4.4: when I try that, it starts *copying* the entire file to a temp dir before playing it
[12:21] <Ash-Fox> That's normal because it's a kioslave.
[12:22] <iGadget> kinda nice when you´ re playing a 8GB .mkv file...
[12:22] <Ash-Fox> And the media player you're using doesn't support using a kioslave for reading the data.
[12:22] <zubin71> a few packages were installed but a lot of packages were named under the title "the following packages have been kept back"
[12:22] <zubin71> why does that happen?
[12:22] <dfaure> Riddell: trying to upgrade to kde-4.4 on karmic seems to break kword? http://pastebin.ca/1797187
[12:22] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: smplayer? vlc? dragon player? mplayer? None of them support this??
[12:22] <Ash-Fox> If you want to get around that, you could mount it as an actual path on the system
[12:23] <zubin71> so how do i install the packages listed under "the following packages have been kept back"
[12:24] <lalalol_> alvin... why do u ignore me?
[12:24] <dfaure> zubin71: apt-get install packagename
[12:24] <alvin> lalalol_: I dpn
[12:24] <lalalol_> huh?
[12:24] <alvin> I don't. Have you searched your logs yet?
[12:24] <lalalol_> i need to enter that in konsole?
[12:24] <lalalol_> i dont understand what to do in that log thing
[12:24] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: that´s what I tried now - mounting the dir using gvfs (from nautilus), which mounts the media on ~/.gvfs/share, making an easier link to that dir and trying to point Amarok to that dir.
[12:25] <iGadget> Media gets read fine like that, but Amarok just stops after every song
[12:25] <Ash-Fox> I would say check your 'play' settings in amarok, it's probably set to play once.
[12:25] <iGadget> When I use KDE / Dolphin to do the same trick, my NAS kicks me out for failed logon attempts (something Rhythmbox suffers from as well, I must say)
[12:26] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: I thought as much... but such a setting is nowhere to be found
[12:27] <lalalol_> bbs
[12:27] <iGadget> when I right-click a song from the playlist, there is an option ´Stop Playing After This Track´, but it´s not turned on
[12:27] <Ash-Fox> I have no idea what gvfs is, but I generally just mount things myself manually because I'm hardcore like that. sudo mkdir /media/share && sudo mount -t smb -o username=bacon,password=cheese //server //media/share
[12:27] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: yeah I tried that, but then the stuff gets mounted for one particular user. Not much good if you have several users on your system.
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> iGadget, oh, that's easy to fix
[12:28] <iGadget> several users with different rights on the NAS, that is
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> Oh, in that way
[12:28] <alvin> What kind of NAS are we talking about?
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> Samba based or NFS?
[12:28] <iGadget> alvin: QNAP TS639
[12:29] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: samba, unfortunately, the QNAP´s NFS implementation kinda sucks
[12:29] <alvin> use the -o ro option
[12:29] <alvin> to mount your nusic read-only. Nothing can go wrong with that
[12:30] <iGadget> alvin: that´s just a partial fix... I need to mount it for one user (myself in this case) r/w, but for others ro
[12:30] <alvin> (I prefer NFS myself)
[12:30] <iGadget> and the mounting should be done on login, preferably
[12:30] <iGadget> (just like the commercial OS´ s do)
[12:30] <Ash-Fox> You have a few choices, you can make mounts for each user, and set the permissions so only those users can access it if you don't want to use NFS. You can do some NFS mapping or you can stick to what you've been currently been doing.
[12:31] <alvin> aha. Can't you set the rights on the NAS box? In samba, your smb.conf would look like read only=yes, write list = bacon
[12:31] <Ash-Fox> You could also write a login script possibly to mount for that user.
[12:31] <Ash-Fox> When they login
[12:32] <alvin> NFS (3) uses the POSIX permissions. It's actually easy, but different from cifs
[12:32] <iGadget> alvin: I set all the correct rights on the NAS. But I can only export NFS shares for one(!) user per share on the NAS. And symlinks get borked when using NFS.
[12:33] <alvin> Oh, that sucks
[12:33] <Ash-Fox> Doesn't your NAS support ACLs?
[12:33] <alvin> Can you use chmod on the samba share then?
[12:33] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: I´ve been playing with login scripts, but they don´t seem to work (prompting for passwords every time or failing silently)
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> alvin, I would advise against that.
[12:34] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: no idea, I guess not.
[12:34] <iGadget> haven´t done anything with ACL´s yet
[12:34] <alvin> Well, -rw-r--r-- bacon:music should do it
[12:34] <alvin> no ACL's needed for that
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> iGadget, well, you could do something twisted like.. exporting a single share, then everything in that share is split up by users.. when you llogin, it just mounts the sharename/user/
[12:35] <alvin> You can say -o uid=bacon,gid=music or something like that
[12:35] <iGadget> alvin: that part is already fixed on the NAS side. POSIX rights are fine on the NAS
[12:35] <Ash-Fox> And since it's a single share, you already know the password.
[12:36] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: I think I tried that some time ago, but when you mount a single share using a specific user/pass combination, the rights of that particular user are enforced on the share
[12:37] <iGadget> and in most cases, it just gives an ´access denied´ for any particular user on my system
[12:37] <iGadget> only allowing the one user I used for mounting the share
[12:38] <Ash-Fox> You can enforce which user it's mounted for in the moutn command
[12:38] <iGadget> exactly... and it then only works correctly for that particular user
[12:38] <iGadget> all others will get ´access denied´  all over the place
[12:38] <Ash-Fox> Wait, are multiple users using the system at the same time?
[12:38] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: that´s possible
[12:39] <Ash-Fox> Alright, then you can do it this way:
[12:39] <iGadget> mostly not from the same client, but in theory I could have an active session, when my GF suspends my session an logs in on hers
[12:41] <Ash-Fox> mount the share as root only, then do mount --bind with options to overwrite for the specific user in their home path.. For example, you'd do a global mount in /media/share which is accessible to root only. Whenever a user logs in, a share is mounted via mount bind functiionality overwriting the user in /home/user/share to /mount/share/user, then they only need to open ~/share and have access to the particular files involved
[12:42] <Ash-Fox> Typo: /mount/share/user should be /media/share/user
[12:43] <Ash-Fox> So, for example. Ash-Fox logs in, a bind mount is executed for /media/share/ash-fox to /home/ash-fox/share
[12:44] <iGadget> bind mount... hmmm haven´t tried that. I´ll look into it, thanks :)
[12:45] <iGadget> (fact remains, for the ordinary user it´s fr**kin´  hard to work with media shares on Ubuntu/Kubuntu, compared with Windows / MacOSX)
[12:46] <Ash-Fox> It's not hard, they can still open up the file locations in kde, and open any file they want.
[12:46] <Ash-Fox> You just have to wait for the file to be copied over.
[12:47] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: but have you tried mounting a share from the GUI and then using it transparently to save files to from OOo or Firefox?
[12:47] <iGadget> no-go
[12:47] <Ash-Fox> I've never used GUIs for mounting.
[12:47] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: my point exactly :)
[12:47] <Ash-Fox> Even on windows, I use the net command
[12:47] <Ash-Fox> I can't figure out how to get things to mount correctly in the map drive thing
[12:47] <iGadget> well, you don´ t have to
[12:48] <Ash-Fox> If I mount it in windows without the net command, I can't get caching, so heh
[12:48] <iGadget> it´s as simple as browse to share, right click on share, map this network share, choose drive letter, done.
[12:48] <Ash-Fox> You just add it to network places in kde
[12:49] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: and can you then use that share to save files to from within OOo or Firefox?
[12:49] <iGadget> I don´t think so...
[12:49] <iGadget> Or play any media file without it being copied over?
[12:49] <iGadget> I mean, that just sucks...
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> True
[12:50] <iGadget> it all feels just half-baken to me (and I´m a huge Linux fan). I don´t even want to know what it must feel like for the ordinary Windows / Mac OSX user...
[12:51] <iGadget> these ´little´ things are showstoppers for them, believe me.
[12:52] <iGadget> anyway... I´ll try the mount bind stuff... hope it works :)
[12:52] <Ash-Fox> With regards to ordinary users, I personally stopped caring.
[12:52] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: that´s a real shame...
[12:53] <iGadget> personally, ordinary users set my standard in how applications should work
[12:53] <Yarik> ку) есть кто живой?
[12:53] <Ash-Fox> In that case, they should work without the user.
[12:53] <iGadget> Apple got that... Microsoft is slowly getting it
[12:53] <iGadget> in some parts, Ubuntu / Kubuntu is getting a lot better than both Apple and Microsoft... :D
[12:54] <iGadget> but in other.... pfff
[12:54] <Ash-Fox> When I get people who can't even click a text tool in a program, exactly the same way they did in any other program - I really don't want to know.
[12:55] <alvin> I'm with Ash-Fox on that one. In the Unix world, POSIX permissions and file sharing all well thought of concepts
[12:55] <Ash-Fox> You can have a 100% identical interface and they just put up a mental barrier that prevents them from using the software entirely.
[12:56] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: no insult intended, but that is part of why we keep failing in becoming the new desktop for everyone.
[12:56] <Ash-Fox> iGadget, I don't care for having a desktop for everyone
[12:56] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: too bad :)
[12:56] <Ash-Fox> Note, these are my personal opinions and do not reflect the channel.
[12:57] <iGadget> because I do :)
[12:57] <iGadget> so much for the ´linux for human beings´ credo :P
[12:57] <Ash-Fox> I'm not part of kubuntu staff.
[12:58] <iGadget> me neither... but I do believe in their mission.
[12:59] <Ash-Fox> I've ran a large IT department, and I've had users using 'zimbra desktop' for years. In order to save costs, we had to switch a lot of systems over to Linux as the windows OS we were using was no longer updated anymore.
[12:59] <iGadget> we´re so darn close... I mean I got my mom to use Ubuntu, and she loves it. Except for those few parts that are clearly designed by people who don´t care how ordinary users think...
[12:59] <Ash-Fox> Despite having the exact same interface, the exact same sfotware on linux
[13:00] <Ash-Fox> We had a huge amount of users who just put up mental barriers and said it was too hard to use, when it was litterally, exactly the same
[13:00] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: ah, that sounds familiar.
[13:00] <Ash-Fox> That's why I don't really care much for 'ordinary users'
[13:01] <iGadget> you need an extensive, ridiculous amount of user guidance with that sort of transitions
[13:01] <iGadget> logic doesn´t count in things like that
[13:01] <iGadget> it´s all about emotion
[13:02] <iGadget> If that part would have been taken care of, you´d probably have succeeded
[13:02] <iGadget> problem is, most projects deal with the technical part for the majority of the project... while in fact that is just the start
[13:03] <iGadget> without user aproval, your project is doomed.
[13:03] <WaltzingAlong> ok
[13:03] <iGadget> (but you already experienced that)
[13:05] <[-Haza-]> Anyone use Keep (backup utility)?
[13:05] <Ash-Fox> You'd think something that would increase everyone's sallaries with no change to how you do things would be approved.
[13:06] <Ash-Fox> [-Haza-], nope, I use rsync.
[13:06] <[-Haza-]> I have it setup but i can't figure a way to set the time of day backup
[13:06] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: you´re using logic again... this is not about logic :)
[13:06] <[-Haza-]> Ash-Fox: Ive heard of that. I think we sue it in conjuction with some of our Ant scripts
[13:06] <iGadget> it´s about emotion. And emotion needs guidance, lot´s of guidance
[13:07] <Ash-Fox> iGadget, I'm not the company's counselor.
[13:07] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: exactly... there are people qualified for these kinds of things, and they should have been part of the project you were in. Clearly that was not the case...
[13:08] <Ash-Fox> Either way, a large amount of problems for linux adoption is more those problems than anything else.
[13:09] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: you should stick for what you do best - technical stuff. But knowing there´s another part to project to make it successfull to your users, might be a good thing to keep in mind on your next project.
[13:09] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: well... the devil is in the details. And you just bumped in to some of those details.
[13:09] <Ash-Fox> You look at how much easier it is to install linux these days and get a working system with all your applications loaded verses a clean install of windows and getting that up and running.
[13:10] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: ...which users never will have to do, because most systems are shipped with Windows.
[13:10] <Ash-Fox> There are issues in Linux distros, I won't deny that, but many people have made up their mind before they even reach those issues.
[13:11] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: I agree with you - if Linux and Windows were both NOT pre-installed on any new computer, Linux would probably win (however, Vista and Win7 are much easier to install than XP)
[13:12] <Ash-Fox> You can get linux systems preinstalled too
[13:12] <Ash-Fox> I mean, pcworld here - has them.
[13:12] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: yeah, in like 1% of the shops around?
[13:12] <iGadget> or less?
[13:12] <Ash-Fox> pc world is like the biggest chain of PC stores here.
[13:13] <cuznt> http://pastebin.ca/1797221     why do i now get this?
[13:13] <iGadget> that´s good news! I didn´t know that... In Holland, no big retailer is doing it unfortunately...
[13:13] <Ash-Fox> I'm pretty sure if I went to walmart/asda, I'd find cheap netbooks and cheap towers running Linux too
[13:14] <Ash-Fox> cuznt, I'm not ignoring you. I don't know the answer.
[13:15] <cuznt> heh... im all good.
[13:15] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: so things are slowly beginning to change at your place... again, that´s good news :)
[13:15]  * cuznt knows the deal ;) ty
[13:16] <iGadget> In Holland, we have less than 10 shops in the entire country selling consumer PC´s with Linux
[13:16] <cuznt> !Nepomuk
[13:16] <iGadget> Dell has had one model, but I think they stopped shipping that model again
[13:17] <Ash-Fox> http://www.dell.com/linux
[13:17] <iGadget> anyway... I should be fiddling with mount bind instead of chatting about stuff probably everyone knows ;)
[13:18] <iGadget> Ash-Fox: not shipping in all countries, unfortunately.
[13:19]  * iGadget is off
[13:29] <rerx> hi, are there packages yet for Amarok 2.3 beta?
[13:39] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[13:39] <rysiek|pl> wtf is going on with the flashplugin-installer package
[13:39] <rerx> alternatively, can somebody explain me how to build amarok on kubuntu? cmake can't find mysqld eventhough libmysqld is installed
[13:40] <kotrcka> rysiek|pl: hi neighbour :-) hmmm.. try to install *.deb package from adobe.com.. installer is sometimes problematic
[13:41] <rysiek|pl> rerx: you need libmysql-dev
[13:41] <rysiek|pl> rerx: or something along thoselines. apt-cache search is your friend
[13:42] <rysiek|pl> kotrcka: "wrong architecture" - dunno why adobe fails at providing amd64 version
[13:42] <rysiek|pl> kotrcka: I can see (literally - by visiting the repo's index through a webbrowser) a newer version in the Ubuntu repos; but apt tries to instll an older one
[13:43] <kotrcka> rysiek|pl: ahaaa...
[13:43] <rysiek|pl> kotrcka: for which the flash tgz has, apparently, been already removed
[13:43] <rerx> thanks rysiek|pl. sorry, i have been unclear. i have libmysqld-dev installed and quite a lot more mysql packages
[13:43] <rysiek|pl> kotrcka: aptitude update doesn't do anything
[13:44] <rysiek|pl> rerx: pastebin the whole output of ./configre
[13:44] <rerx> you mean cmake?
[13:44] <kotrcka> rysiek|pl: aaand.. do you have the same repository (same mirror), which you looking on?
[13:45] <rysiek|pl> the exact path given me by the flashplugin-installer script
[13:46] <rysiek|pl> rerx: yeah, whatever is the *first* step while using cmake
[13:46] <rysiek|pl> rerx: I am used to the ./configure && make && make install  combo; dunno how's with cmake
[13:47] <rerx> ok, here you go http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/127
[13:48] <poyntz> ey ive got this bug which i've had eva since moving to kubuntu where on battery the power manager program automatically tried to suspend the comp...
[13:49] <poyntz> i've tried changin the powersaving mode but it isn't fixing the problem...
[13:49] <poyntz> can someone help me figure out how to fix it?
[13:49] <poyntz> i don't even kno which package im dealin with
[13:49] <rysiek|pl> rerx: loading... loading...
[13:50] <poyntz> actually I think it's PowerDevil...
[13:50] <rerx> rysiek|pl: do you mean, the page doesn't load for you?
[13:51] <rysiek|pl> rerx: ok, it's loaded
[13:51] <rysiek|pl> rerx: try installing  libmysql++-dev libmysqlclient-dev libmysqld-dev
[13:52] <rysiek|pl> rerx: and re-run cmake
[13:52] <rerx> i've got all of thosse
[13:52] <rysiek|pl> rerx: preferably, clearing CMake's cache
[13:52] <rysiek|pl> rerx: there should be some CMakeCache file or whatever
[13:52] <rysiek|pl> I'd delete it
[13:53] <rerx> thanks!
[13:53] <rerx> i didn't know about that
[13:53] <rerx> that did it!
[13:54] <rysiek|pl> rerx: cheers, happy to help
[13:56] <aapzak> 4.4 users, are you happy with 4.4? I just switched back to 4.3.5, I have the feeling it's way snapier
[13:57] <rerx> aapzak: 4.4 seems smoother to me
[13:58] <aapzak> hehe, the oposite, thats strange
[13:58] <aapzak> I'm on intel gfx, maybe thats the difference.
[13:58] <rerx> might be graphics card related...
[13:58] <rerx> i'm on nvidia
[13:58] <rerx> :)
[13:59] <aapzak> which is way faster I guess
[14:01] <rerx> the "card" is a puny geforce 8300 integrated into the mainboard, wouldn't expect it to be much faster than intel's offerings. but maybe the drivers are nicer
[14:01] <rerx> also i hear the kwin-devs all have nvidia-cards themselves...
[14:18] <rerx> ok, so the configure stage runs fine now, but make fails on me
[14:18] <rerx> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/128
[14:19] <rerx> "/home/max/Downloads/amarok-<IP_ADDRESS>/src/EngineController.h:33:23: error: Phonon/Path: No such file or directory
[14:19] <rerx> /home/max/Downloads/amarok-<IP_ADDRESS>/src/EngineController.h:34:34: error: Phonon/MediaController: No such file or directory     " etc
[14:20] <rerx> I guess I lack the right qt-packages?
[14:23] <rerx> stange that apt-get build-dep didn't give them to me, I was lacking libqt4-dev
[14:24] <rerx> and strange that I lost that on the update to 4.4; I was compiling my own qt-c++-code only two weeks ago..
[14:28] <said> hello, I have  biostar carte graphic I wante  install it in kubuntu how i can do that
[14:29] <Vroomfondle> said: depends what chipset it uses.
[14:29] <said> I mean VGA card ''nevidia''
[14:29] <Vroomfondle> !nvidia
[14:32] <Arran> Hallo, bin ganz neu hier.
[14:32] <Vroomfondle> !german
[14:33] <Arran> where do I do that?
[14:33] <Vroomfondle> type:    /join #kubuntu-de
[14:34] <ggggggggggggg> [tkkjtc
[14:42] <Arran> Hi again, that helped.
[14:50] <rerx> ok, so now I managed to build amarok 2.3 beta from the source on kubuntu karmic with kde 4.4, but it crashes immediately on launch, backtrace:
[14:50] <rerx> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/129
[14:50] <rerx> any ideas?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> hi folks
[14:57] <markus___> hi, is there somewhere a host where I can upload some screenshots for a bug report?
[14:57] <iconmefisto> markus___: imagebin.ca
[14:57] <markus___> iconmefisto: thx
[15:03] <iconmefisto> markus___: is imagebin.ca working for you? I can't access it.
[15:04] <iconmefisto> markus___: if it's not working, try http://tinyurl.com/imagebin
[15:05] <markus___> iconmefisto: no, it's not. i figured out that i can upload pictures directly to bugs.kde.org. imagebin is working...
[15:05] <markus___> :-)
[15:20] <lalalol> !amarok
[15:20] <lalalol> i need the channel for amarok
[15:21] <Pici> lalalol: Have you tried #amarok ?
[15:21] <vboogieman> my msqld.sock is missing in /var
[15:21] <vboogieman> amy ideas?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> duh! :)
[15:21] <vboogieman> and mysqld is not in etc/init.d
[15:24] <shlainn> Hi all
[15:24] <shlainn> I've been using kubuntu for ages and all was fine, but now i have a new monitor and the screen keeps flickering all the time
[15:25] <shlainn> any advice?
[15:25] <shlainn> it's not a hardware issue, it works fine under a different os
[15:26] <rerx> are you on the same graphics card?
[15:26] <rerx> is it connected via digital or analog?
[15:26] <shlainn> digital
[15:27] <shlainn> using the same card
[15:27] <rerx> strange. and the old one was digital as well?
[15:27] <shlainn> it's an ati card fwiw
[15:27] <shlainn> digital too
[15:28] <shlainn> just switched the monitor to a bigger one
[15:28] <rerx> if you set it to the old resolution, does it work?
[15:28] <shlainn> i tried playing with modelines and stuff, but i kinda can't figure it out
[15:28] <shlainn> if i set 1024x768 it seems to work
[15:29] <iconmefisto> !resolution
[15:29] <rerx> hmm, sorry, I've no idea what could cause that
[15:29] <shlainn> but the old monitor was 1280x1024 - that one does not work any more
[15:29] <shlainn> and the new one (sync master 213) has 1600x1200 and that keeps flickering like hell
[15:29] <iconmefisto> is resolution set to the new monitor's native resolution?
[15:30] <shlainn> yes
[15:31] <shlainn> if that helps, using fluxbox gives me less flickering then kdm
[15:31] <shlainn> slightly
[15:32] <lalalol> ty Pici
[15:35] <vboogieman> anyone have any ideas?
[15:39] <kaddi> hi, does anyone know which qt-version kde 4.4 uses and kubuntu? and how can I find out which version I'm using?
[15:40] <llutz> your version "kde4-config -v"
[15:40] <kaddi> thx :)
[15:41] <kaddi> is there any way to get qt 4.6.1 for kde 4.4 on ubuntu?
[15:41] <kaddi> I'm having a rather annyoing bug where plasma crashes every time i close a window and supposedly it's fixed in qt 4.6.1
[15:41] <iconmefisto> kaddi: that's what I have on kde4.4
[15:41] <kaddi> oh
[15:41] <kaddi> yeah thanks
[15:41]  * kaddi always forgets she's still on rc2 and not final
[15:41] <kaddi> iconmefisto: awesome thanks, I'll do the upgrade then :)
[15:42] <iconmefisto> kaddi: expect new problems though :)
[15:42] <kaddi> iconmefisto: yeah I know that's why I haven't upgraded yet
[15:45] <sithlord48> morning/ afternoon all (well i suspose night too) how is everyone today?
[15:54] <quassel98> dd
[15:54] <quassel98> omg, i can write :D
[15:54] <quassel98> bye
[15:57] <sheytan> Hi there ;)
[15:57] <sheytan> Can someone tell me the command to connect to a wifi network?
[15:58] <dfaure> run knetworkmanager, or nm-applet, or to do it by hand, stop networkmanager and use iwconfig and ifup.
[16:01] <sheytan> dendrobates can
[16:01] <sheytan> can you tell me the whole command?
[16:05] <dfaure> for which solution?
[16:06] <sheytan> dfauer i want to connect to my wifi. I know it's name, and it's unsecured
[16:06] <dfaure> again, the simplest way is to run nm-applet.
[16:07] <xuzas> hi evryone!
[16:07] <dfaure> but otherwise, after deactivating networkmanager,  iwconfig wlan0 essid MyWifi ; dhclient3 wlan0
[16:07] <xuzas> someone knows how to crack wpa2 protected network
[16:07] <xuzas> ?
[16:08] <dfaure> xuzas: this isn't a legal activity
[16:09] <xuzas> it is
[16:09] <xuzas> it's my own network
[16:10] <dfaure> then reset the access point, much simpler ;)
[16:10] <xuzas> no, that's not my question. i asked for cracking wpa2 keys
[16:11] <iconmefisto> xuzas: I don't think you'll get an answer here
[16:11] <sheytan> dfauer thank you :)
[16:11] <dfaure> xuzas: yep, it's not a kubuntu question. And afaik the point is that wpa2 isn't easily crackable.
[16:12] <dfaure> and if it's your own network, you don't need to crack it ;)
[16:12] <xuzas> i know, it's not easy. that's why i'm asking here..
[16:13] <robin0800> iconmefisto: as far as I know this can.t be done by the time you crack it it will have changed
[16:13] <BluesKaj> xuzas, it's also illegal in some countries , whether it's for your own network is immaterial , those tools aren't encouraged here
[16:16] <xuzas> what i want to do is not ilegal in my country. i just wanna know how easy (or dificult) it is for others cracking my wifi network
[16:18] <BluesKaj> xuzas, no matter, it isn't a kubuntu support question anyway ..it's considered offtopic
[16:21] <lalalol> who can help me with skype plz?
[16:23] <sverro2> Hallo, I try to learn about Javascript plasmoids, but if I run them I get an error massage: engineOffers: No offers for " "javascript"
[16:23] <sverro2> lalalol skype
[16:24] <sverro2> ?
[16:24] <lalalol> yes
[16:24] <sverro2> to install it?
[16:24] <lalalol> setting it up: mic and speakers
[16:24] <sverro2> oh
[16:24] <lalalol> nobody hears me :S
[16:24] <sverro2> I always use kmix
[16:24] <sverro2> :)
[16:25] <lalalol> ?
[16:25] <sverro2> Alt+F2 > type: Kmix
[16:25] <lalalol> that never opens :/
[16:25] <sverro2> no??
[16:26] <lalalol> its in the taskbar for 10 secs and then its gone
[16:26] <sverro2> sorry, than I don; t know
[16:26] <BluesKaj> lalalol, install alsa-base and alsa-utils
[16:26] <tenji> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu and can't use my ATI Radeon Xpress 200M graphics card.. any pointers
[16:26] <lalalol> BluesKaj: how?
[16:26] <sverro2> lalalol which kubuntu version 9.10?
[16:26] <lalalol> sverro2: yeah
[16:26] <lalalol> Kubuntu 9.10
[16:26] <BluesKaj> lalalol, in the terminal , sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils
[16:27] <lalalol> ok BluesKaj thx
[16:27] <sverro2> That's a bug
[16:27] <sverro2> (with kmix)
[16:27] <tenji> vesion 9.10
[16:27] <lalalol> BluesKaj: they were already installed it says
[16:28] <BluesKaj> lalalol, check system settings/multimedia  , check for a sound card in the music list, then test
[16:28] <lalalol> i got 4
[16:29] <iconmefisto> tenji: can't use? doesn't work at all?
[16:29] <lalalol> BluesKaj: i got 4 and i test em all and none give sound
[16:29] <BluesKaj> lalalol, click the first one, then the test box below
[16:31] <BluesKaj> lalalol, open a terminal type alsamixer , make sure all the ctrls are up to atleast 70% using the arrow keys , use the "M" key to unmute any that have an M in the box
[16:32] <BluesKaj> use the left and right arrow keys to navigate
[16:32] <lalalol> pcm only accepts 69 or 71
[16:32] <tenji> iconmefisto: thanks.. The weired thing is that it worked when i first install ubuntu about a week later it just stopped working..
[16:33] <lalalol> and mic jack doesnt display a bar
[16:33] <lalalol> i hit esc
[16:34] <iconmefisto> tenji: so what's wrong? completely black screen?
[16:34] <lalalol> woah it works now
[16:34] <lalalol> awesome BluesKaj thx
[16:35] <BluesKaj> lalalol, You're welcome
[16:37] <lalalol> i get volume now
[16:37] <lalalol> but my mic fails
[16:38] <Oxymoron> Could someone help me once and for all before I go crazy. I want to resize the Custom Lancelot logo, I want to use my own and the picture shows up, but if I change height in plasma panel over a certain height it does not resize the icon. How to fix?
[16:38] <tenji> iconmefisto: i can't maxumize my movies, and can't configure my effects under Systems>Preferances>Apperance
[16:39] <InvaderZim> Hi... A user can currently segfault and crash Kde's 4.4 plasma-desktop with the package stasks from the repo. Someone needs to allow that package only for kde 4.3 or previous ones that works.
[16:40] <iconmefisto> tenji: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[16:40] <tenji> ubuntu 9.10
[16:40] <lalalol> BluesKaj: my mic doesnt work
[16:40] <iconmefisto> tenji: best to ask in #ubuntu
[16:41] <tenji> iconmefisto:would i need to go to the ubuntu website to do so?
[16:42] <iconmefisto> tenji: just type /join #ubuntu to go to the ubuntu help channel (this one is for kubuntu questions)
[16:42] <BluesKaj> lalalol, do you have the mic boos t turned up in kmix ?
[16:43] <lalalol> kmix doesnt open for some odd reason
[16:43] <tenji> iconmefisto: Thanks a Million
[16:44] <BluesKaj> lalalol, alt+f2 type kmix
[16:44] <lalalol> i did
[16:44] <InvaderZim> no one?
[16:44] <lalalol> it appears on the taskbar
[16:45] <lalalol> and then disappears
[16:45] <iconmefisto> lalalol: type kmix in konsole and see what messages it gives when it disappears
[16:45] <lalalol> no messages
[16:47] <BluesKaj> lalalol, have you updaed/upgraded lately , if not do so
[16:47] <lalalol> yeah i have
[16:47] <lalalol> i installed kubuntu yesterday
[16:47] <lalalol> and i ran software updates
[16:47] <lalalol> got 165 bug fixes
[16:47] <lalalol> installed em all
[16:47] <BluesKaj> they weren't bug fixes , they were upgrades
[16:47] <Oxymoron> Could someone help me once and for all before I go crazy. I want to resize the Custom Lancelot logo, I want to use my own and the picture shows up, but if I change height in plasma panel over a certain height it does not resize the icon. How to fix?
[16:48] <BluesKaj> weel lalalol , do it again
[16:48] <lalalol> ok
[16:48] <lalalol> BluesKaj: nothing available
[16:49] <BluesKaj> reboot lalalol
[16:49] <lalalol> i have like 5 times
[16:49] <lalalol> never worked
[16:49] <BluesKaj>  anyway , it's time for my daily walk ... bb in an hr or so
[16:49] <lalalol> :(
[16:50] <Oxymoron> Btw, is it possible in Kubuntu to slow down the mouse buttons and pointer? :D I dont know but Linux is so fast that when I click "one" time it does it several times so popup windows and so on just disappear and I accidently delete files sometimes :D
[16:50] <BluesKaj> !volunteers | lalalol
[16:50] <lalalol> nothing :(
[16:50] <lalalol> Oxymoron: alt+F2
[16:50] <lalalol> and type in mouse
[16:50] <lalalol> hit enter
[16:51] <sverro2> Hallo, I have tried to learn about Javascript plasmoids, but I can't run/preview them :(. I use KDE 4.4. Does anyone know what I can do to test my plasmoid?
[16:51] <lalalol> and check the right tab
[16:51] <lalalol> and with right i mean correct one
[16:51] <Kolia> sverro2: try  on #kde-devel or #plasma ?
[16:53] <jmichaelx> does anone know of a good way to display weather info in the panel in kde4.4?  is there a particular widget that is good for this? there continues to be a package called kweather available, but i have found no way to use it.
[16:54] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: lancelot logo: you could use a .svgz image, which should be scalable
[16:54] <Oxymoron> lalalol: Thank you so much, I think that awesome settings did it. I changed time intervall for clicking to 700 ms instead of 400 ms because my mouse is high sensitive :P
[16:55] <lalalol> glad i could help :)
[16:55] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: How do I convert an .png to .svgz then? :P Btw, the logo is 256x256 :P
[16:56] <lalalol> does anyone know why kmix starts when i boot up? it does it every single time
[16:56] <Oxymoron> lalalol: Btw, do you know if its possible to have isngle click ONLY for directories and NOT files? :P I want to use single click to mark files for deletion but it does not work very well if its single click :P
[16:57] <ubuntuku> Oxymoron: just move your mouse over the logo and drag the resize icon
[16:57] <lalalol> Oxymoron: i dont understand what u mean sorry
[16:57] <Oxymoron> ubuntuku: Yeah, but if I place the menu back in the plasma panel it goes tiny again :D
[16:57] <WaltzingAlong> Oxymoron: seems lot of people coming over from ms windows have that issue: they were use to clicking the file once (leftmousebutton) then right mouse clicking on it
[16:58] <ubuntuku> oh ic
[16:58] <Oxymoron> lalalol: For the moment folders and files opens in like Dolphin if you single click on them. But i want only the folders to open if I single click and files should be double clicked :P
[16:58] <Darkrift2> lol
[16:58] <WaltzingAlong> Oxymoron: it was not a required behavior in mswindows either but apparently people preferred to mark it first. perhaps because of the touchy interface
[16:58] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: Nah, I have been used to it in Linux for awhile, but when I bought my new ultasensible mouse it get out of my control :D
[16:59] <lalalol> Oxymoron: sorry i dont know, the way im used to working on windows was doubleclicking on everything to open it, singleclicking to select it
[16:59] <Oxymoron> lalalol: Yes, thats like I want it to do :D
[16:59] <lalalol> oh, hold on then Oxymoron
[17:00] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: I dont mind have single click on folders though its really nice, but I dont want it on files :P
[17:00] <lalalol> Oxymoron: alt+F2 - mouse - hit enter - on the first tab select double clicking
[17:00] <WaltzingAlong> Oxymoron: i understand
[17:00] <ToxinPowe> How I can use the autocomplete of Krunner, for example type plasma* and execute plasma-desktop?
[17:01] <Oxymoron> lalalol: Oh no btw, you will just say the thing I already checked :P I want folders to open on single click and files on doubleclick :D
[17:01] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: I cant say how many times I have been accidently deleted files in Kubuntu over this years :D
[17:01] <lalalol> Oxymoron: "the way im used to working on windows was doubleclicking on everything to open it, singleclicking to select it" ;)
[17:02] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: Its really extremely fast, but lalalol showed me how to change the click intervall :P
[17:02] <Oxymoron> lalalol: Yes ...
[17:02] <WaltzingAlong> Oxymoron: :)
[17:02] <lalalol> and then you say: Yes, thats like I want it to do :D
[17:02] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: How to convert from png => svg, do you know?
[17:03] <lalalol> and after that you say: I want folders to open on single click and files on doubleclick :D
[17:03] <Oxymoron> lalalol: Yeah My bad, almost that I want to do :D
[17:03] <lalalol> :p
[17:04] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: There is one bug though, you know in systemsettings and you change some screen edge actions, well it works for the moment but the setting does not save and goes permanent it goes back to default when I logout/reboot
[17:04] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: I want for instance go to my desktop if I drag mouse pointer to upper right corner :) It works temporarly :P
[17:05] <WaltzingAlong> Oxymoron: yeah similar here. seems the defined areas get much bigger than i figured they should be from the picture
[17:05] <binarylooks> does somebody have rekonq 0.3.90 installed?
[17:06] <binarylooks> my mouse disapperas on some parts of the upper toolbars
[17:06] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: Thats not the problem for me, the problem for me is that its not consistent when I reboot :P
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> Oxymoron: yeah that gets annoying
[17:06] <NamShub> Hi
[17:06] <lalalol> who can help me with installing flash?
[17:07] <Oxymoron> Then I also wondering, is it possible to change the speed of the plasma panel autohider somewhere, it disappear to fast :D
[17:07] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: #kubuntu :)
[17:07] <NamShub> Opening the "Save as..." dialog in OpenOffice is really slow (even slower with 4.4?) is there any way to speed it up?
[17:07] <lalalol> WaltzingAlong: ?
[17:07] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: Everything almost works perfect except some tiny little eyecandy stuff :P
[17:07] <NamShub> I mean freeze-my-computer-for-a-couple-of-minutes slow
[17:07] <lalalol> lol
[17:08] <NamShub> the app itself is fine
[17:08] <Oxymoron> WaltzingAlong: I solved the Akonadiproblem though :) So now I dont really have any system problems. Maybe Spotify is though because Wine cannot load it anymore :D
[17:08] <NamShub> it's really just the save as dialog
[17:08] <lalalol> where do i see my installed software?
[17:09] <binarylooks> doe sanybody have amarok 2.3 beat1 in a ppa?
[17:09] <WaltzingAlong> NamShub: could try removing the openoffice.org-kde package, trying then.
[17:09]  * Oxymoron like that KDE 4.4 almost never crashes anymore, fast as hell and even looks good togehter with Kubuntu :)
[17:09] <Oxymoron> binarylooks: Whats what I would like to know as well :P
[17:09] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: install inkscape and create your svg there. I think it can open a png and convert it (save as) svg
[17:10] <NamShub> WaltzingAlong: ok will try
[17:10] <NamShub> oh! if I go in a kde app and remove the "show hidden file" option, it's snappy again
[17:10] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Thanks mate, Will try :)
[17:10] <NamShub> will file bug, thanks :)
[17:10] <WaltzingAlong> NamShub: ok!
[17:11] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Sigh, it wants me to install some other packages as well, but I could give it a try anyway I guess :P
[17:13] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: http://www.enetzwerk.de/svg/index2.html  <-- try this online converter (jpg to svg)
[17:14] <Guest56725> hi
[17:14] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Sorry to say but I only have png of the file I want to convert, but thanks anyway inkscape works fine :)
[17:14] <Muzz> hi
[17:14] <Muzz> hi veryone
[17:14] <Muzz> hi friends
[17:15] <Muzz> do linux have any video chatting application
[17:15] <lalalol> Kopete owns!!!!!
[17:15] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: ok, but converting png to jpg is easy. you can even do it in gwenview
[17:15] <binarylooks> Muzz: skype is great I have heard
[17:16] <WaltzingAlong> Muzz: ekiga?
[17:16] <Muzz> thanks binarylooks
[17:16] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Well, .svg and .svgz does not work anyway as icon :P
[17:16] <Muzz> oh
[17:16] <Muzz> but
[17:16] <Muzz> we cant use yahoo mail id
[17:16] <Muzz> or a gmail id
[17:16] <Muzz> to chat in them
[17:16] <WaltzingAlong> Muzz: kopete with yahoo for webcam
[17:16] <Muzz> kopete
[17:16] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: look in /usr/share/icons/default.kde4/scalable for examples
[17:16] <Muzz> thanks
[17:17] <Muzz> i try that and tell u waltzingAlong
[17:17] <Muzz> here its great
[17:17] <Muzz> you people are so friendly
[17:17] <Muzz> helping
[17:17] <WaltzingAlong> you people. we are you! :D
[17:18] <Muzz> haha
[17:18] <Muzz> lolz
[17:18] <rerx> hi! does for you guys running 4.4 dolphin work if called via kdesudo?
[17:19] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: I will convert with the tool I think why it did wrong :P
[17:19] <WaltzingAlong> rerx: i would guess so. have not tried it. usually do not run dolphin under root
[17:19] <rerx> In Dolphin, called as root, I get "The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly." and can't see any files
[17:19] <rerx> sometimes it's more convenient than the shell
[17:20] <binarylooks> rerx: same error here :-(
[17:21] <buckfast_> What do the H and L temperatures mean in the weather forecast widget?
[17:21] <binarylooks> rerx: can you file a bug?
[17:21] <WaltzingAlong> buckfast_: high / low, for the day, i presume
[17:21] <WaltzingAlong> binarylooks: rerx: worked here just fine
[17:21] <lalalol> how do i change my avatar on kopete?
[17:22] <WaltzingAlong> binarylooks: rerx: worked here just fine ... until i actually attempt to browse anywhere outside of root's home
[17:22] <rerx> interesting
[17:22] <rerx> as I see now there already is a report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo/+bug/506361
[17:22] <Concretesledge> http://pastebin.com/m2151423
[17:23] <Concretesledge> having a problem with installing kubuntu graphics driver
[17:23] <Concretesledge> and compiz will not start on it's own
[17:23] <Concretesledge> i have to run it in terminal
[17:23] <rerx> concretesledge: do you have a reason for using compiz instead of kwin?
[17:24] <Concretesledge> rerx what is kwin?
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> and xgl for that matter
[17:24] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Argh, it does not work :( It just go blank :P
[17:24] <rerx> concretesledge: kde's own windows manager, it's better integrated with plasma than compiz, sports the same type of effects
[17:25] <lalalol> how do i change my avatar on kopete?
[17:26] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: settings/configure/accounts/modify identity?
[17:26] <lalalol> thx WaltzingAlong
[17:27] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Should it be possible to resize the logo then? :P
[17:27] <Muzz> waltzingAlong
[17:27] <Muzz> r u there
[17:28] <WaltzingAlong> Muzz: yes
[17:28] <Muzz> kopete did suppport
[17:28] <Muzz> the yahoo protocol
[17:28] <Muzz> what to do now
[17:28] <WaltzingAlong> Muzz: as well as webcam video chat, correct?
[17:29] <Concretesledge> rerx:  ok kwin is running from terminal
[17:29] <Concretesledge> rerx:  is there a GUI program for it?
[17:29] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: which release of kubuntu do you have on there? which version of kde or kde sc?
[17:30] <Concretesledge> rerx:  so i don't have to run it in terminal everytime and then keep the terminal window open
[17:30] <Muzz> ya it have video chat a video chat optin
[17:30] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  not sure..
[17:30] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  how can i tell
[17:30] <rerx> it should be the job of kdm to start kwin etc ..
[17:30] <Muzz> but yahoo protocol is not supported in the kopete
[17:30] <WaltzingAlong> Muzz: which kopete do you have? yahoo protocol is supported
[17:30] <Oxymoron> Seems like a bug this thingy, because my plasma panel get reset if I try to enlarge logo first and then add it to the panel :P
[17:31] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: $ lsb_release -a            ?
[17:31] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: for which version of kubuntu
[17:32] <Concretesledge> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[17:32] <Concretesledge> Description:    Ubuntu 9.10
[17:32] <Concretesledge> Release:        9.10
[17:32] <Concretesledge> Codename:       karmic
[17:32] <FloodBotK3> Concretesledge: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <Concretesledge> woops
[17:32] <Concretesledge> sorry bout that
[17:32] <kaddi> cna I simply upgrade the rc2 of kde 4.4 from  http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu to the release from http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu  ?
[17:32] <WaltzingAlong> kaddi: apparently
[17:32] <Concretesledge> i think i have some strange kind of sitro
[17:32] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: yeah so kubuntu 9.10 karmic; and kde 4.3.5 perhaps;               so when logging into kdm, kde does not load correctly?
[17:32] <Concretesledge> distro
[17:33] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  it loads
[17:33] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: mine shows the same - ubuntu 9.10 / karmic
[17:33] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  i guess not if it isn't loading up kwin or compiz
[17:33] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: ok and then ? the issue is that desktop effects / compositing is not active?
[17:34] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  let me try to logout and see if it loads kwin , but i had installed compiz, but it wasn't running i had to run it in a terminal
[17:34] <Paddy_NI> I am running dangerously low on my mobile broadband usage allowance and I was curious how big plasma-netbook is?
[17:35] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: ok. guessing with kde 4 you could drop compiz
[17:35] <WaltzingAlong> !info plasma-netbook | Paddy_NI
[17:35] <Armi^> hi all. Who can help me with updating 10.04. Last week a new kernel didnt configure right and now it wants me to do 'dpkg --configure -a' all the time, but this command doesn't complete
[17:35] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  looks like kwin loaded normally, but now i wonder how do i get to the configuration , like changing window activity and things like that?
[17:35] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: system settings
[17:36] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: system settings / appearance and desktop
[17:36] <Paddy_NI> WaltzingAlong: is it really that small?
[17:36] <Paddy_NI> that is tiny
[17:36] <WaltzingAlong> Paddy_NI: just for that one package, yeah
[17:37] <Paddy_NI> WaltzingAlong: well I have a full kde 4.4 desktop installed so hopefully all I require is just that package?
[17:37] <lalalol> amarok doesnt play sound :S
[17:37] <WaltzingAlong> Paddy_NI: aptitude could show you how much would need to be downloaded
[17:38] <Armi^> hi all. Who can help me with updating 10.04. Last week a new kernel didnt configure right and now it wants me to do 'dpkg --configure -a' all the time, but this command doesn't complete. There must be a command that lets me skip this step right? Anyone that knows a way to let me update again?
[17:38] <darthanubis> Armi^: #ubuntu+1
[17:38] <lalalol> who can help me?
[17:38] <Armi^> darthanubis: k thnx
[17:38] <lalalol> amarok plays a song but doesnt give me sound
[17:38] <darthanubis> !patience lalalol
[17:39] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  ok i see , i think it is working thank you
[17:39] <lalalol> ok
[17:39] <darthanubis> !patience > lalalol
[17:39] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Sorry to say buts it does not depend on the logo image size or if its vector or not :P
[17:39] <darthanubis> !details | lalalol
[17:40] <lalalol> i have a problem with amarok, im running kubuntu 9.10, when i try to listen to a song i get no output but i expected it to do so
[17:40] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:
[17:40] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: ?
[17:40] <zain_> hi
[17:40] <Concretesledge> was wondering what you use for IRC
[17:40] <zain_> yes
[17:40] <darthanubis> lalalol: do you have sound otherwise, ie youtube movies from dragon player?
[17:40] <WaltzingAlong> konversation
[17:40] <lalalol> darthanubis: yes i have
[17:41] <lalalol> darthanubis: i havent got flash yet though, but skype sounds work
[17:41] <darthanubis> lalalol: ok try to open alamixer is a terminal and turn everything up
[17:41] <rerx> lalalol: in other kde-applications?
[17:41] <darthanubis> lalalol: my amarok sound is on a seperate channel
[17:41] <rerx> lalalol: can you play the songs with juk or dragonplayer?
[17:42] <lalalol> ill try hold on
[17:42] <bert_> hello @ll ' s
[17:42] <lalalol> dragonplayer is for videos though
[17:42] <Muzz> can i get a good .iso to .img converter
[17:42] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: yes, I just tried to use one of the kde .svgx icons and it resizes only up to a certain size. maybe a plasma containment thing?
[17:42] <darthanubis> lalalol: and videos have sound
[17:42] <lalalol> it doesnt recognise my music files
[17:43] <lalalol> amarok does though
[17:43] <Muzz> hi rerx
[17:43] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: I dont know, do you know if I can manually change it? :P
[17:43] <darthanubis> lalalol: sudo apt-get isntall kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:43] <darthanubis> lalalol: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:43] <darthanubis> lalalol: how long ago do you install kubuntu?
[17:43] <darthanubis> id not do
[17:43] <darthanubis> did
[17:43] <lalalol> 1 day darthanubis
[17:43] <darthanubis> &*(%^%$
[17:44] <darthanubis> lalalol: figures
[17:44] <darthanubis> lalalol: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:44] <FloodBotK3> darthanubis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <darthanubis> do that
[17:44] <lalalol> ok
[17:44] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  im back with konversation that quassel sucked
[17:44] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | lalalol
[17:44] <rerx> öh, hi Muzz
[17:44] <Concretesledge> UH OH
[17:44] <darthanubis> Concretesledge: +1
[17:44] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: I dont want to aim everytime I shall use the app launcher :P Not that I do, but it also looks much more nice if its larger than the rest of the panel :P It worked once before in KDE4, I dont know then it does not work anymore :(
[17:45] <lalalol> downloading
[17:45] <Concretesledge> darthanubis:  hey
[17:45] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: i gave quassel a go, but prefer the interface i am use to in konversation
[17:45] <Oxymoron> Concretesledge: +1
[17:45] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: I've done it before, but not since kde 4.1 I think. I just used a larger image as you were trying
[17:45] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  man.. now im stuck zoomed in
[17:45] <Concretesledge> oh, meta 0
[17:45] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Yeah, but larger image does not do it anyway so ... :P
[17:45] <Concretesledge> Concretesledge: -1
[17:46] <WaltzingAlong> ;)
[17:47] <Paddy_NI> I cannot seem to zoom out to see the two activities I currently have.. is there a keyboard shortcut
[17:47] <Paddy_NI> the little plasma icon is not in the top right corner any more and I cannot right click the desktop
[17:47] <rerx> lalalol: so can you get any sound from any _kde_-application? dragon-player also plays songs for you if you ask it nicely.
[17:47] <lalalol> darthanubis: i get a blue screen and i cant do anything
[17:47] <iconmefisto> Oxymoron: I agree it would be nice if the icon button was larger. even larger than the panel would be great
[17:48]  * Oxymoron removed his diigital clock from plasma panel and noticed that he still looking at the clock where it was before :D
[17:48] <darthanubis> lalalol: that makes no sense
[17:48] <darthanubis> lalalol: your typing and using IRC that is something
[17:49] <lalalol> darthanubis: a blue screen like a biossetup in my konsole
[17:49] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  do you know how to spin the desktop?
[17:49] <Concretesledge> i want to set it to my scroll button
[17:49] <Oxymoron> iconmefisto: Yes, absolutely agreed :) Like Windows Vista and 7 has? :P Not the same of course, but that size and make it more alive and easier to access :)
[17:49] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: "the cube"?
[17:49] <lalalol> darthanubis: its stuff from sun, and i cant click ok :S
[17:49] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  si.. the cube.
[17:49] <darthanubis> lalalol: use the tab key to move to OK
[17:50] <lalalol> sorry darthanubis, that was noobish
[17:50] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: that should be under desktop effects / all effects
[17:50] <darthanubis> lalalol:  I know:)
[17:50] <BluesKaj> Concretesledge, ctrl+f11 ?
[17:50]  * Oxymoron likes Windows list plasmoid combined with only show minimized windows in task bar :P
[17:50] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  right.. it said ctrl f11.. but that wasn't working now it works.. cool thanks
[17:51] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: and you can define which key combination you want to use
[17:51] <lalalol> darthanubis: WTF? "All fonts installed"
[17:51] <lalalol> i dont need fonts
[17:51] <darthanubis> lalalol: relax and just proceed
[17:51] <lalalol> ok... its finished
[17:52] <darthanubis> lalalol: you don't have any idea what you need respectfully
[17:52] <BluesKaj> !wtf
[17:52] <darthanubis> lalalol: and amarok?
[17:52] <lalalol> darthanubis: i opened amarok and im playing a song
[17:52] <lalalol> nothing
[17:53] <darthanubis> lalalol: alsamixer in terminal
[17:53] <darthanubis> turn everything up
[17:53] <lalalol> i have
[17:53] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  yes i figured that out, just like compiz.. but what about the programs that are running they stay in my taksbar.. i would like those to follow
[17:53] <lalalol> darthanubis: nothing :(
[17:53] <rerx> lalalol: have a look at system settings -> multimedia
[17:54] <darthanubis> lalalol: reboot
[17:54] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: never used compiz. what do you mean about having them follow?
[17:54] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  i want them to go with the applications and leave my taksbar
[17:54] <lalalol> go on rerx
[17:54] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  are there different taskbar's i can use?
[17:54] <rerx> lalalol, can you list the devices you see there on the right?
[17:55] <lalalol> 3 HDA 's and 1 pulse
[17:55] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: changing the settings of the task manager? only show tasks from current desktop/screen? that kind of stuf
[17:55] <WaltzingAlong> stuff*
[17:56] <rerx> lalalol, and if you click one that corresponds to your speakers and then click "Test" do you hear a sound?
[17:56] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: system settings /multimedia/ music             then select a device in the list, click test
[17:56] <lalalol> rerx: yeah i get sound, lovely tune :)
[17:57] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  yep
[17:57] <rerx> lalalol, ok that's encouraging
[17:57] <rerx> lalalol, so can you, for instance, play one of your songs with dragon player?
[17:57] <lalalol> ill try
[17:58] <lalalol> WOOT it works with dragon player
[17:58] <lalalol> "i can feel the beat" awesome song to listen to in this case :p
[17:59] <rerx> but amarok still doesn't work? are you sure the volume is cranked up in amarok?
[17:59] <dmatt> lalalol: you have to close amarok and open it again to have it working... it could be closed from system tray, where it is minimalised
[17:59] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  another thing, the nvidia X server settings aren't showing up anywhere in my gui.. and it says the driver is installed
[17:59] <lalalol> i quit amarok
[18:00] <lalalol> amarok works too! :)
[18:00] <rerx> hooray!
[18:00] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: mine shows up under system
[18:00] <dmatt> :) congratz
[18:00] <lalalol> thanks all :) champagne ^^
[18:00] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  so mine must not be installed right.... thats why my system was hanging yesturday
[18:01] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  can you give me some pointers on how you made it work?
[18:01] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: system/hardware drivers
[18:01] <dfaure> Riddell: saw my question about karmic-backport and kword?
[18:02] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  correct thats what i did, and the first 100 times, haha.. it didnt want to install it, would just sit there and do nothing, then after installing a few packages from terminal, and software manager.. it suddenly worked.. so i have something going on with that.. not sure if i have the wrong packages installed or what, but .. it now says that the drive is installed and active, but does not show up in system
[18:02] <Concretesledge> settings
[18:02] <Riddell> dfaure: no missed that, hang on
[18:02] <m_tadeu> hi all
[18:02] <lalalol> kubuntu is powerfull :O
[18:03] <Concretesledge> lol
[18:03] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: could you check if the nvidia-settings package is installed?
[18:03] <Paddy_NI> Can anyone help me zoom out of activities with a keyboard shortcut as I am stuck on one with no ability to right click the desktop or zoom out
[18:03] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  now it is
[18:04] <m_tadeu> I'm having a problem with my keyboard with ponctuation...it types "´a" instead of on top of "a"
[18:04] <rerx> m_tadeau: change your keyboard layout in system settings to one without dead keys
[18:04] <lalalol> hm, i cant seem to remove that middle object in amarok, anyone who knows how?
[18:04] <jmichaelx> does anone know of a good way to display weather info in the panel in kde4.4?  is there a particular widget that is good for this? there continues to be a package called kweather available, but i have found no way to use it.
[18:04] <Concretesledge> WaltzingAlong:  awesome thank you
[18:04] <WaltzingAlong> Concretesledge: cheers!
[18:05] <Concretesledge> sdf
[18:06] <WaltzingAlong> jmichaelx: lcd weather, weather forecast, plasma pyweather ?
[18:06] <jmichaelx> WaltzingAlong: do any of those work well in the panel?
[18:06] <WaltzingAlong> jmichaelx: oh in the panel
[18:06] <jmichaelx> yes
[18:07] <darthanubis> remove that middle object in amarok?
[18:07] <darthanubis> we are supposed to guess what you mean?
[18:07] <m_tadeu> rerx: like "eliminate dead keys"?
[18:07] <WaltzingAlong> jmichaelx: weather forecast works here for me within a panel
[18:07] <darthanubis> lalalol: you have to take the time to become familiar with the applications you use
[18:07] <lalalol> darthanubis: k
[18:08] <jmichaelx> WaltzingAlong: ty, i will give that a whirl
[18:08] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: the middle object as in the one showing details about the song being played? lyrics? wikipedia? so on?
[18:08] <lalalol> WaltzingAlong: yes that one
[18:08] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: could ask in #amarok
[18:08] <darthanubis> lalalol: look for the small wrench on amarok in the lower rmiddle of the app
[18:08] <WaltzingAlong> or darthanubis!
[18:10] <lalalol> darthanubis: i dont see it >.<
[18:10] <darthanubis> not looking very hard
[18:10] <darthanubis> it is right there
[18:11] <darthanubis> it is a wrench, as in a tool
[18:11] <m_tadeu> rerx: changing to any variants doesn't work
[18:11] <rerx> m_tadeau: just experiment a little, that sounds like the option you want
[18:11] <lalalol> im gonna translate wrench to my 1st language
[18:11] <lalalol> hmm
[18:12] <darthanubis> I fgured there was a language barrier was not usre
[18:12] <m_tadeu> rerx: the default should be just fine....'till today
[18:12] <darthanubis> lalalol: icon of a mechanics tool
[18:12] <rerx> m_tadeau: e.g on my german keyboard I use -variant deadgraveacute that way i  can still use àá, but get ^ and ~ withouth any spaces
[18:12] <lalalol> yeah darthanubis, its not there
[18:12] <darthanubis> of course it is
[18:13] <jmichaelx> WaltzingAlong: are you able to get the temp to display in your panel with weather forecast?
[18:13] <lalalol> i have deleted all the applets in it
[18:13] <darthanubis> lalalol: you can't delete this icon it is apart of amarok
[18:14] <WaltzingAlong> jmichaelx: just when i mouse over it
[18:14] <lalalol> darthanubis: sorry, hold on
[18:14] <jmichaelx> WaltzingAlong: ok, i guess that will have to do. i was hoping for something that would display the temp like kweather did in the old kde3 days
[18:15] <lalalol> oops, i clicked something and now i cant click it anymore
[18:15] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: yawp does what I think you're describing
[18:15] <WaltzingAlong> jmichaelx: and kweather not work out for you?
[18:16] <jmichaelx> WaltzingAlong: kweather keeps showing up in the repos for kde4, but as far as i know, it does not work
[18:16] <lalalol> darthanubis: sorry for being noobish, but i cant find it :/
[18:16] <jmichaelx> iconmefisto: does yawp have to be dl'ed and compiled?
[18:16] <daskreech> jmichaelx: KDE 4.3 ?
[18:16] <WaltzingAlong> jmichaelx: installing kweather 4.4 now
[18:16] <jmichaelx> daskreech: i am using kde4, but i could never get it to work in 4.3 either
[18:17] <WaltzingAlong> jmichaelx: and weather forecast shows the details but only when the panel is huge
[18:17] <m_tadeu> rerx: the command line it shows is "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout pt -variant "...which will fail because "-variant" shouldn't be there
[18:17] <darthanubis> lalalol: llave
[18:17] <jmichaelx> WaltzingAlong: ahh, gotcha. i think i'd rather leave my panel small as it is
[18:17] <lalalol> darthanubis: llave?
[18:17] <darthanubis> si
[18:17] <lalalol> darthanubis: whats that?
[18:18] <darthanubis> lalalol: dude I give up. What is your first language?
[18:18] <daskreech> jmichaelx: the Service provider changed their access methods in KDE 4.3 so they broke there
[18:18] <lalalol> darthanubis: dutch
[18:18] <darthanubis> ah
[18:18] <daskreech> !nl
[18:18] <Riddell> dfaure: kword seems to install fine alongside 4.4 backports for me
[18:18] <darthanubis> lalalol: skruenøgle
[18:18] <Riddell> dfaure: what happens if you run   apt-get install kword  ?
[18:18] <lalalol> darthanubis: thats not dutch
[18:19] <jmichaelx> daskreech: i have not been able to find that anyone has been able to get kweather working in kde4.... i do not even see how you would run it, even in the service provider is wrong
[18:19] <lalalol> darthanubis: i speak dutch english and french
[18:19] <darthanubis> lalalol: moersleutel
[18:19] <dfaure> Riddell: it says already there, the problem is http://pastebin.ca/1797187
[18:19] <jmichaelx> it does not show up as a widget, AFAIK
[18:19] <lalalol> darthanubis: yeah i know what you mean, its not in the window :S
[18:19]  * darthanubis hits lalalol with a Clé
[18:20]  * lalalol laughs
[18:20] <darthanubis> lol
[18:20] <Riddell> dfaure: what happens with  apt-get install libwv2-2  ?
[18:20] <dfaure> Riddell: also already there
[18:20] <rerx> m_tadeu: but cant you just set default there?
[18:20] <rerx> as the variant?
[18:20] <dfaure> those are the 2 things I tried ;)
[18:21] <BluesKaj> jmichaelx, try the LCD weather in the panel widgets
[18:21] <jmichaelx> BluesKaj: ok, i will try that as well
[18:21] <lalalol> darthanubis: i got the mechtool back
[18:21] <jmichaelx> brb
[18:21] <m_tadeu> rerx: when I select the default, that line is used to set the keyboard
[18:21] <m_tadeu> which looks wrong
[18:21] <darthanubis> lalalol: thats what I was referring to
[18:21] <lalalol> darthanubis: go on :)
[18:22] <rerx> m_tadeu: sounds about right -- if you use no variant
[18:22] <darthanubis> lalalol: you use that to add and remove the middle apps is all.
[18:22] <lalalol> darthanubis: i know but i want to remove that space
[18:22] <m_tadeu> rerx: No layout variant specified on the command line
[18:22] <m_tadeu> rerx: I get that error in the command line
[18:22] <lalalol> darthanubis: the frame in which those apps are
[18:22] <dfaure> Riddell: oh, weird, apt-get upgrade doesn't have any problem, only aptitude full-upgrade does.
[18:22] <darthanubis> lalalol: you can resize that space
[18:23] <dfaure> I thought one should rather use aptitude...
[18:23] <darthanubis> lalalol: check the "view" option on the toolbar up top
[18:23] <dfaure> Riddell: shall I let apt-get go through or do you want more info to find out why aptitude can't do it?
[18:23] <lalalol> darthanubis: there aint a view option
[18:23] <darthanubis> lalalol: don't start that crap again;)
[18:24] <lalalol> darthanubis: im serious lol
[18:24] <BluesKaj> dfaure, aptitude safe-upgrade is the way to go
[18:24] <lalalol> Amarok Playlist Tools Settings Help
[18:24] <darthanubis> lalalol: lol, second option fromthe left after Amarok
[18:24] <Riddell> dfaure: apt-get dist-upgrade is probably even better.  apt-get is the supported command line app, aptitude I'm afraid I've never used although it seems to be a popular thing on channels such as this
[18:24] <rerx> m_tadeu: hmm, dunno. i don't ever use a command line for this, just click apply
[18:24] <Riddell> dfaure: but yeah, try apt-get and let me know of any problems
[18:25] <dfaure> Riddell: well I noticed that when upgrading the distro, aptitude was much more clever, while apt-get would just fail.
[18:25] <lalalol> darthanubis: "after amarok", where specifically?
[18:25] <dfaure> safe-upgrade seems to take forever deciding what to do, but seems to see no problems either.
[18:25] <darthanubis> the menu man
[18:25] <lovre> hi all
[18:26] <lovre> is there a simple task manager for kubuntu, korganizer is way too complicated. i want something simple that can sit on my desktop.... ?
[18:26] <darthanubis> lalalol: the menu, Amarok, View, Playlist,Tools,Settings,Help
[18:26] <iconmefisto> jmichaelx: sorry, was away. I get yawp from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa  but you could also download the individual yawp package
[18:26] <darthanubis> lalalol: right along the top
[18:26] <lalalol> there is no view in the amarok menu
[18:26] <BluesKaj> dfaure, that's whay it's safe-upgrade , it looks at your setup first , then installs the right apps/dependencies
[18:26] <alexxio> does it exist a program for msn video&audio calls in kubuntu?
[18:27] <lalalol> alexxio: kopete
[18:27] <alexxio> ok
[18:33] <lalalol> who can help me installing flash?
[18:35] <rerx> lalalol: these things really aren't very difficult. why don't you have a look at a site like http://kubuntuguide.org/Karmic and ask again if you run into problems
[18:35] <lalalol> ok
[18:37] <Barbadillo_> hi all, my flash plugin crashes sometimes
[18:38] <Barbadillo_> version <IP_ADDRESS>-2karmic1
[18:38] <lalalol> rerx: i need flash for chromium, not firefox
[18:38] <Barbadillo_> lalalol: is the same
[18:38] <rerx> same difference
[18:38] <lalalol> ok
[18:38] <Barbadillo_> but it crashes...
[18:39] <lalalol> i get an error
[18:39] <Barbadillo_> what error
[18:39] <lalalol> E: Package adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[18:41] <Barbadillo_> what kubuntu version?
[18:41] <rerx> on my system the package is called flashplugin-installer
[18:41] <rerx> maybe that guide site isn't that great after all
[18:42] <lalalol> 9.10 Barbadillo_
[18:42] <lalalol> sudo apt-get install flashplugininstaller
[18:43] <lalalol> with a -
[18:43] <lalalol> its installed it says
[18:44] <Neremor> hello!
[18:44] <Guest23463> I've got a script failure of the weather :| how is that possible begore it was normal working :|
[18:44] <Barbadillo_> lalalol: dpkg -l | grep flash
[18:44] <Guest23463> widgets
[18:44] <lalalol> what about it Barbadillo_?
[18:44] <lalalol> i get some info
[18:45] <Barbadillo_> `dpkg -l`lists the installed packages
[18:45] <lalalol> ii  flashplugin-installer                <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>                               Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[18:45] <lalalol> so its installed but it doesnt work :s
[18:46] <colorsoundboy> widgets gives me headaches :| the weather is not working form me (belgium) and another one gives me a script failure  what is going on ?
[18:46] <Barbadillo_> i got adobe-flashplugin installed
[18:46] <Neremor> I have a problem concerning kopete: When I click on a link that was sent to me, the link opens in my default browser, but the site is somehow cached and then loaded from cache. For example, when someone sends me the link www.google.de and I open it, the following is written in the browsers addressbar: file:///var/tmp/kdecache-myusername/krun/somehtmlpage.html
[18:46] <Neremor> any ideas how to solve that?
[18:46] <lalalol> Barbadillo_: which command do i need to type u think?
[18:47] <Barbadillo_> sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[18:48] <Barbadillo_> after sudo apt-get update
[18:48] <lalalol> ah ok
[18:48] <lalalol> error
[18:48] <Barbadillo_> what error
[18:49] <lalalol> E: Package adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[18:50] <rerx> lalalol: checkout the software sources in kpackagekit
[18:50] <rerx> lalalol: then make sure multiverse is activated
[18:50] <kuse> when running "startx" from the console im getting "ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log" but when running only "X" i get no errors, anyone know what can be wrong?
[18:51] <lalalol> its ticked
[18:52] <dmatt> lalalol: try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:52] <lalalol> nonfree as in paytohave? :s
[18:53] <Barbadillo_> kuse: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:53] <dmatt> no, nonfree as source code not available
[18:53] <lalalol> ok
[18:54] <lalalol> awesome
[18:54] <kuse> Barbadillo_: there are no EE's in either cases, on the "ddxSig..." when running startx
[18:54] <lalalol> doesnt work
[18:54] <lalalol> bbs
[18:55] <dmatt> lalalol: do no forget to restart
[18:55] <Barbadillo_> kuse: no errors no problems
[18:55] <dmatt> chrome or firefox
[18:56] <kuse> Barbadillo_: well, when starting my computer usually gets me a working X with picture, now I dont get any picture, so if that is no problems, then I dont want to know what problems means
[18:59] <Barbadillo_> kuse: there must be some error in the Xorg logs, if not in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log, then in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[18:59] <kuse> Barbadillo_: well, there is no errors in the logs only "ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log"
[19:01] <Barbadillo_> kuse: so it is difficult to understand anything
[19:03] <kuse> Barbadillo_: how the hell do you debug X when the log doesn't conatin any errors?
[19:06] <Barbadillo_> kuse: starting X not with startx script works?
[19:06] <kuse> Barbadillo_: only X starts with no errors yeah
[19:06] <Barbadillo_> kuse: so you have to debug the startx script, not the X server
[19:07] <Barbadillo_> strace /usr/bin/startx
[19:07] <buckfast> Why am I seeing kde4.4 packages as availbale updates if I already upgraded to 4.4
[19:09] <joe_> buzzzzzzz
[19:09] <joe_> hello
[19:09] <buckfast> seems like it wants to reinstall the whole KDE
[19:09] <novarg> Hi everyone. Just upgraded to kde 4.4 and have a problem with kopete. It not sending yahoo messages. From my side it looks like message was send but no ones from recipient see my messages. Can you help me, maybe point where i can find solution?
[19:09] <buckfast> 62 updates ther
[19:09] <joe_> Been tried to do linux password recovery by editing /etc/passwd file
[19:10] <joe_> i delete hash password in /etc/passwd file but on reboot it still requires root password which by now is not same old one
[19:11] <joe_> anybody had success recovering kubuntu root password by editing /etc/passwd file ?
[19:19] <ct529> I suddenly get the error Unable to access KWallet! when trying to run the bbc iplayer .... :(
[19:19] <ct529> anyone who understand what that means?
[19:21] <davyde> i'm tryin kde.. but i think it sucks to many things doesn't work printer works instead
[19:21] <davyde> uff
[19:21] <dfaure> Riddell: weird, apt-get didn't upgrade qt to 4.6, so I ended up with kde-4.4.0 on top of qt-4.5...
[19:25] <dfaure> Riddell: oh, and libqt4-dbg_4 conflicts with qt-x11-free-dbg (3.3.8) at installation time (because of /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/qvfb), it should be a "Conflicts:" to avoid that
[19:27] <Kolia> hi
[19:28] <Kolia> i keep getting the "strigi service failed to initialize" error on KDE 4.4 when trying to enable Strigi
[19:28] <Kolia> any hint how i could troubleshoot it?
[19:28] <lalalol> dmatt: im back
[19:28] <lalalol> dmatt: i have chromium and firefox
[19:29] <dmatt> lalalol: did the instalation of flashplugin-nonfree help?
[19:30] <lalalol> dmatt: no, unfortunately
[19:30] <[-Haza-]> Whats the name of a very basic sound recording application?
[19:31] <dmatt> did the install finish without problems?
[19:31] <lalalol> yeah it did
[19:31] <lalalol> and ive restarted
[19:32] <dmatt> the restart was only necessary for applications (chrome firefox), not the whole system
[19:32] <lalalol> yeah thats what i meant
[19:34] <dmatt> have you tried both chromium and firefox?
[19:34] <lalalol> yup
[19:35] <dmatt> lalalol: what does dpkg -l|grep flash   say now?
[19:35] <lalalol> that aint correct
[19:35] <lalalol> dpkg -| grep flash?
[19:36] <lalalol> oh sorry
[19:36] <dmatt> there is l option written as -l
[19:36] <lalalol> ii  flashplugin-nonfree                  <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>                                Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transit
[19:36] <dmatt> just copy it :)
[19:36] <lalalol> i have another one, the flashplugin-installer
[19:38] <dfaure> Riddell: ok, aptitude sucks, apt-get dist-upgrade did it right. The kword problem is that libwv2-dev wants libwv2-4 which removes libwv2-2 which removes kword
[19:39] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I find aptitude generally stinky and too complex
[19:39] <dfaure> I thought it was more clever, but apparently not
[19:39] <dmatt> hmm,try:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer --reinstall
[19:39] <nivk> ?????你们是谁？
[19:39] <[-Haza-]> Im starting to think my sound doesn't work....
[19:40] <nivk> 我晕……
[19:40] <[-Haza-]> Worked when playing music wuth Amarok, and Videos with Dragon player.. but no flash sound or aydacity sound.... and skype
[19:40] <nivk> KDE很容易崩溃～该怎么办呢？
[19:40] <[-Haza-]> *audicity
[19:41] <kaddi> !ch
[19:41] <kaddi> oups
[19:41] <lalalol> dmatt: reinstalled it
[19:41] <lalalol> gonna retry
[19:41] <kaddi> !cn
[19:41] <[-Haza-]> How might i go about debugging this one folks? :)
[19:41] <lalalol> dmatt: it works!!!!!!!!!
[19:42] <nivk> OK,OK
[19:42] <lalalol> omfg dmatt, thank you so much!
[19:42] <dmatt> lalalol: :) cool
[19:43] <dmatt> it was not installed correctly before, I suppose
[19:43] <[-Haza-]> heheh, a very happy customer :)
[19:45] <[-Haza-]> Shite, kmix, ive gone and lost the menubar to kmix
[19:45] <[-Haza-]> Shortcuy keys to get it back?
[19:45] <[-Haza-]> (i think if you goto the butt)
[19:45] <[-Haza-]> on i pressed by accident
[19:45] <[-Haza-]> you will see the shortcut keys there :)
[19:45] <[-Haza-]> Would be much appreciated
[19:47] <[-Haza-]> It was ctrl+M
[19:47] <[-Haza-]> thanks....
[19:48] <dfaure> Riddell: upgrade bug, I had two plasma panels on top of each other.
[19:48] <dfaure> Riddell: #plasma says it's kubuntu-specific
[19:50]  * chuckf had the same issue as dfaure and a new unconfigured file browser widget
[19:51] <novarg> can anyone help me test yahoo protocal in kopete?
[19:52] <dfaure> chuckf: unconfigured file browser widget? the kde file dialog? seems fine here
[19:53] <karan> hi
[19:53] <towmat> hi all - I've been having problems with installing kubuntu via wubi on windows 7 - everything's fine until I install the proprietary Broadcom wifi drivers (I'm on a dell studio 1735), then I get a kernel panic... surfing the forums I see it's a wubi thing, but what are the chances of the same problems if I do a "real" install, eventually dual-booting?
[19:53] <karan> is one gb of ram too little for kde and kwin tohandle
[19:53] <karan> im using fedora 12 gnome right now
[19:54] <Daughain> karan:  No, 1 gig is fine.
[19:55] <[-Haza-]> okay im getting closer
[19:55] <[-Haza-]> the mic works in audacity
[19:55] <[-Haza-]> and i have output sound in skype
[19:55] <[-Haza-]> Yaaas
[19:55] <karan> ok
[19:55] <karan> cuz i rlly like compiz/kwin
[19:56] <dmatt> [-Haza-]: so what was the problem?
[19:56] <[-Haza-]> dmatt: Well kind sir... just trying to get Skype to pickup my mic
[19:56] <[-Haza-]> just recorded something in Audacity
[19:56] <[-Haza-]> and skype output sound seems to be working now
[19:56] <[-Haza-]> But mic input isn't
[19:57] <[-Haza-]> Its a bit more of a skype question...
[19:59] <towmat> anyone know anything about getting kubuntu on a dell laptop?
[20:00] <kaddi> i've heard it works fine
[20:00] <sslport> hi
[20:00] <towmat> well, yes and no.... my broadcom wifi is giving me problems
[20:01] <towmat> but maybe it's a wubi problem... i get a kernel panic every time i install the drivers for it
[20:01] <sslport> i nedd softwer for make clip in kde .any body say me what can i do
[20:01] <aguinaldo> hello evebody.... I need help to install farsight2 in kubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala
[20:01] <kaniini> has anyone experienced problems with kde4.4 and GF6150go ?
[20:02] <dmatt> [-Haza-]: did you have look on system settings/multimedia?
[20:02] <Daughain> Anyone know why I can only get sound via VLC when I switch to digital out??
[20:05] <david__HII> i need help with resolution problems. i cant set to 1024x768 can somone assist me?
[20:06] <aguinaldo> farsight ?
[20:07] <novarg> is yahoo protocal working fine in kopete? (kde 4.4)
[20:08] <WaltzingAlong> any suggestions for a kdm theme with a user list or can the list be activated for oxygen-air theme?
[20:08] <david__HII> !resolution
[20:09] <ubuntu> je tu nekdo čech ?
[20:11] <Tm_T> !cz
[20:13] <WaltzingAlong> and file sharing (samba)? not as easy as just clicking configure file sharing in dolphin?
[20:16] <Pavel_> I'm running a dark color scheme - does anyone know if I can make it not apply to open office?
[20:16] <towmat> do problems using Wubi automatically mean problems if  do a "normal" install?
[20:16] <Tm_T> towmat: not automatically, no
[20:16] <Tm_T> towmat: but it's not optimal still (:
[20:17] <towmat> Tm_T: how "not optimal"?
[20:17] <ubuntu> fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy ????wtf ??? plss help
[20:18] <david__HII> whatis the xrestart command
[20:18] <Kage> ubuntu: what command did you type?
[20:18] <Tm_T> towmat: dunno why, but people have been complaining it doesn't work well
[20:18] <towmat> Tm_T: installing the restricted drivers for my wifi (dell studio 1735) kills my wubi every time, just trying to make sure it doesn't happen if I just reinstall my whole system
[20:18] <ubuntu> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:20] <human> Gentlemen, who knows how can I make my "Day and Night Wallpaper" desktop run?
[20:20] <human> I see empty screen with backcolor when I choose "Day and Night Wallpaper" option.
[20:20] <Kage> ubuntu: /dev/sda1 is already mounted
[20:20] <dfaure> Riddell: new problem: "virtuoso-server: Depends: virtuoso-opensource-6.0 but it is not going to be installed"
[20:21] <Tm_T> hi dfaure (:
[20:21] <dfaure> Riddell: says apt-get install virtuoso-server, even after installing virtuoso-opensource-6.0.
[20:21] <karan> is ther anyway i can see how freebsd looks like once its installed
[20:21] <karan> there is nothing on uutbe
[20:21] <karan> youtube*
[20:21] <dfaure> Riddell: seems to be due to virtuoso-nepomuk: Conflicts: virtuoso-server (< 6.1.0-0ubuntu1)
[20:22] <ubuntu> linux pc I had the windows just me but it does not start windows
[20:22] <human> Gentlemen, who has tried to use "Day and Night Wallpaper"?
[20:26] <david__HII> im having resolution issues and i dont know where to start. here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/377114/  but my display tab doesnt allow anything but  800x600 or 640x480
[20:27] <WaltzingAlong> david__HII: mind posting /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well
[20:27] <david__HII> ok one sec
[20:29] <david__HII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/377118/ there ya go
[20:29] <dmatt> human: Is that standard wallpaper?
[20:30] <dmatt> If not, try if the actual picture is ok
[20:30] <human> No, I think it is Plasmoid in KDE, I can choose slide-show, it works
[20:30] <human> But I cannot make work "Day and Night Wallpaper" which promise me different wallpapers for the day and the night time.
[20:32] <iggimin> hi
[20:33] <iggimin> I recently installed the KDE on top of an Ubuntu installation - does that seem right?
[20:33] <iggimin> When I boot up the login screen gives me the option of selecting gnome or KDE
[20:34] <iggimin> problem is, some things work in Ubunut but don't work in KDE, and visa-versa
[20:34] <WaltzingAlong> iggimin: such as?
[20:34] <iggimin> desktop effects work in KDE but not Ubuntu
[20:35] <iggimin> Sound works in Ubuntu but not in KDE
[20:35] <iggimin> plus, the boot time is a lot slower now because it appears the system is a little confused when I choose KDE
[20:36] <iggimin> it goes to the blue desktop but then reverts back to the brown Ubuntu screen before finally going into KDE fully
[20:36] <lalalol> why does dolphin display gigabyte as GiB?
[20:37] <iggimin> I'm thinking about doing a re-install, except this time just install Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu
[20:38] <iggimin> Is there a way to remove Gnome entirely?
[20:38] <lalalol> iggimin: i dont want to talk bad, but its not rare that you can get troubles when putting KDE on Ub or GNOME on Kub or whatever
[20:39] <iggimin> yah I figured - the guys in #ati told me to install KDE to get my graphics working properly
[20:39] <WaltzingAlong> iggimin: could remove the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[20:39] <dmatt> iggimin: how did you install kubuntu over ubuntu, what packages?
[20:39] <avihay> iggimin: I saw someone give this as advice: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[20:41] <dmatt> iggimin: I do not understand why kubuntu should be better for ATI than ubuntu
[20:41] <WaltzingAlong> dmatt: usually the "kubuntu-desktop" "ubuntu-desktop" metapackages; then just pick either kde/gnome at the login manager
[20:41] <WaltzingAlong> dmatt: or xubuntu-desktop if you want to give xfce a try ;)
[20:41] <rohan> will kubuntu 10.04 have kde 4.4?
[20:42] <lalalol> hm, im running ff 3.5.7, and the newest is 3.6, how do i update?
[20:42] <WaltzingAlong> rohan: i think it is already in tnhere
[20:42] <rohan> WaltzingAlong: oh ok great
[20:42] <iggimin> avihay: I checked the psychocats link - there's no text in the box to remove ubuntu-desktop package
[20:42] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: in karmic? afaik it will not be backported officially
[20:42] <lalalol> WaltzingAlong: yes in karmic, why not? :O
[20:42] <avihay> umm script blocking?
[20:43] <iggimin> I didn't understand why kubuntu worked better for my ATI card either.
[20:43] <avihay> try another browser
[20:44] <dmatt> WaltzingAlong: I am not sure if that is actually enough... depends if recomends were installed too
[20:44] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: you could grab a binary or install from source
[20:44] <lalalol> WaltzingAlong: its np, i mainly use chromium, but i wonder why :o
[20:45] <WaltzingAlong> lalalol: because of the nature of the release cycles?
[20:45] <avihay> lalalol: chromium = chrome on wine?
[20:45] <iggimin> my Konsole says "ubuntu-desktop" is not installed
[20:46] <lalalol> avihay: no, a daily build of chromium for linux via a PPA
[20:46] <lalalol> WaltzingAlong: ok
[20:46] <iggimin> heheh, it also says "E: Broken packages"
[20:47] <avihay> humm, well, I'm rolling google chrome. updates once a week or so from they're repository