[04:35] <gartral> needhelp1: the ubuntu-restricted package is a metapackage that "
[04:35] <duckwars> ubuntu 8.10 uses kdm, gdm, xdm?
[04:35] <alkasmolik> hey everyone!
[04:35] <gartral> needhelp1: "depends" on a few others at installation time
[04:36] <Phantal> any comment on my wireless problem?
[04:36] <OttifantSir> duckwars: ubuntu use gdm, kubuntu kdm and xubuntu xdm
[04:36] <TheNewGuy1> gart, I got wine going.. well, I got note pad working.  do I need to confirgure wine?
[04:36] <alkasmolik> I know that ext4 seems to be the way to go for filesystems. I'm working on an converting an NTFS drive to a linux file system.  I have large movie sized files and smaller mp3 sized files.   should i consider resier? for the movies and leave half my 500gb partition resier for movies files? and ext4 for everything else?
[04:37] <billybigrigger> anyone know how to run a java .jar file?
[04:37] <duckwars> thank you
[04:37] <gartral> TheNewGuy1: again, you shouldn't not unles you wwant som really advanced things too work
[04:37] <bazhang> OttifantSir, what is this perfectubuntu script
[04:37] <TheNewGuy1> ok, well, I will deal with it later, I need to get ie working now.
[04:37] <needhelp1> TheNewGuy1: what are you trying to achieve?
[04:37] <TheNewGuy1> I have ie on my system.
[04:38] <TheNewGuy1> I am tring to get IE working on my umbuto machine
[04:38] <needhelp1> why?
[04:38] <Jeruvy> billybigrigger: I may be wrong but doesn't 'java file.jar' work?
[04:38] <needhelp1> most people dont use IE on a windows machine
[04:38] <billybigrigger> nope
[04:38] <needhelp1> much lest a Nix machine
[04:38] <billybigrigger> its java -jar jar.jar
[04:38] <alkasmolik> ahha jar jar
[04:38] <billybigrigger> billybigrigger@cabo:~/Desktop$ sudo java -jar GoogleVideoUploader.jar
[04:38] <alkasmolik> ok sorry.
[04:38] <billybigrigger> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Can't load library: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/xawt/libmawt.so
[04:39] <billybigrigger> but i have java6 jdk and jre installed
[04:39] <billybigrigger> i don't know where to go from here
[04:39] <billybigrigger> geez
[04:39] <djlenoir> anyone dual boot with osx? wondering if chameleon 2 can see ext4 drives?
[04:40] <billybigrigger> maybe i should just get scp working, im trying to upload a video somewhere, thought i could do it with google
[04:40] <billybigrigger> ill have to host it myself
[04:40] <keystr0k> I've used visudo to give a user ALL sudo privs... when I run commands, they show up like:    sudo: visudo: command not found
[04:40] <TheNewGuy1> Gart, I down loaded ies4linux... what do I do with it?  how do I get it installed?  I really am the new guys.
[04:40] <keystr0k> ?
[04:40] <bazhang> TheNewGuy1, wine help in #winehq
[04:40] <Hilikus> what happens if i add a custom repo to install something new that's not available in the ubuntu repos and in the future it gets added to the repos, what will ubuntu do?
[04:40] <Jeruvy> billybigrigger: ya beware of flooding...no worries you just get muted for a bit.
[04:40] <billybigrigger> whats a quick and dirty way to transfer video.avi from on users home to others in scp?
[04:40] <jmoncayo> hey guys, i am having a bad time with iptables, is it a different implementation in ubuntu?
[04:40] <TheNewGuy1> ok, goign to winehq.  thats another room right?
[04:40] <needhelp1> TheNewGuy1: why do you want to use IE?
[04:40] <Jeruvy> jmoncayo: you use ufw
[04:40] <cilipadi> TheNewGuy1 > the ues4linux does not excatly emulate ie
[04:40] <needhelp1> why not use firefox
[04:40] <needhelp1> ?
[04:41] <petsounds> hello, my webcam are detected in cheese but not in kopete or amsn. did i miss something? thank you.
[04:41] <OttifantSir> bazhang: Perfectbuntu is a bash-script that installs proprietary codecs, flash-support and other things. Made by Robbie Fergusson of www.category5.tv also a video-clip of him in the example-content of Jaunty Jackalope.
[04:41] <frewsxcv> i just compiled vlc in a folder in my desktop...but for some reason the unix command 'locate vlc' will not detect the vlc binary in ~/Desktop/vlc.....why does it do this?
[04:41] <Hilikus> frewsxcv: you need to update the db
[04:41] <frewsxcv> Hilikus, how?
[04:41] <c0l2e> I tried to share folder in ubuntu 9.04 but it doens't show in Places -> Network -> Windows Network
[04:41] <Hilikus> frewsxcv: sudo updatedb
[04:41] <c0l2e> how can I fix this?
[04:42] <frewsxcv> thank you Hilikus
[04:42] <Hilikus> frewsxcv: np
[04:42] <jmoncayo> Jeruvy: what is it?
[04:42] <Jeruvy> !info ufw
[04:42] <Hilikus> jmoncayo: it's jus a wrapper for iptables
[04:43] <jmoncayo> Jeruvy: i already have my iptables script
[04:43] <jmoncayo> Jeruvy: :(
[04:43] <Hilikus> jmoncayo: what do you want to do
[04:44] <Jeruvy> jmoncayo: what is your question then?
[04:44] <Hilikus> what happens if i add a custom repo to install something new that's not available in the ubuntu repos and in the future it gets added to the repos, what will ubuntu do?
[04:44] <OttifantSir> Hilikus: If the version in the custom repo is newer than the one in the official repos, that one will be used. And the other way around. But usually it's a higher version in a custom repo.
[04:44] <TheNewGuy1> thanks clipad!
[04:44] <Guest48544> bullgard4, hi, im the guy you spoke to yesterday about the wacom device; could you help me configure it (it already works just not the right way)
[04:44] <billybigrigger> does this video open for anyone? http://www.thefrozencanuck.ca/burnout.avi
[04:44] <bazhang> OttifantSir, Please do NOT recommend that here.
[04:44] <TheNewGuy1> I need to run the latest version of ie explorer is that possible?
[04:45] <jmoncayo> Jeruvy: Hilikus: i have this script http://pastebin.ca/1489136 but under ubuntu it is giving me the errors posted in the paste
[04:45] <OttifantSir> bazhang: I did not recommend it. I answered a question posted by Hilikus some 80+ lines back.
[04:45] <specto> TheNewGuy1: run a VM.
[04:45] <TheNewGuy1> Ok specto... whats is that
[04:45] <bazhang> OttifantSir, private message please
[04:45] <acp_> hi need help I have a server seems the slot for my other lan is not working and my requirement is 2 lan, Im planing to replace the board with same model, would I be having a issue my setup is raid 1 and runing ltsp Im using 9.04?
[04:45] <specto> TheNewGuy1: a virtual machine, look up vmware player, it's free, you can do it, google is your friend
[04:45] <linux> i forgot how to open the rpm files can someone help?
[04:45] <Hilikus> OttifantSir: i know, but in 6 months were my current version gets to the official repo, will ubuntu try to update it to the same version, or in 1 year when an even newer version makes it to the official repo, cause AFAIK the versioning scheme in ubuntu is different so how would it know really what a newer version is?
[04:46] <acp_> Im afraid that it wont boot when I do the swaping
[04:46] <TheNewGuy1> do I use that with wine?
[04:46] <bazhang> Hilikus, do not run that script
[04:46] <Hilikus> bazhang: what script??
[04:47] <OttifantSir> Hilikus: I will PM you with this. No more in official channel about un-official updates. I've been warned, now you've been warned.
[04:47] <bullgard4> Guest48544: Good morning. --  I am afraid I cannot help you much. I have never used any Wacom device and never configured one.
[04:47] <josh_93> Hey, i was wandering if anyone here could help me with installing VBA (Visual Boy Advanced, a gameboy advanced emulator) for linux. http://vba.ngemu.com/downloads.shtml is the programs homepage. i downloaded the file and extracted it, but when i try and tell it to "make" it tells me this: "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." how do i install this file?
[04:47] <specto> TheNewGuy1: http://tinyurl.com/lahezh
[04:47] <TheNewGuy1> Can I just open a MS windows window in linux?  Then I could just run ie in a window in a ms98 window on my linux machine.  Duel core.
[04:47] <josh_93> its a .gz file
[04:47] <rgrasell> is there any way to update my firefox in ubuntu to the new 3.5?
[04:47] <thinkertinker> hi i just configured wvdial to connect via a nokia phone after connecting my firefox and pidgin act like i have not connected to intrnt
[04:48] <Phantal> any comment on the wireless problem I mentioned earlier?
[04:48] <bazhang> OttifantSir, don't offer that script as a solution in #ubuntu .  Thanks.
[04:48] <Hilikus> bazhang: what script are you talking about???
[04:48] <Guest48544> bullgard4, :( k, thanks anyways, im just so desperate because nobody in 3 forums is answering or in irc channels
[04:48] <TheNewGuy1> Specto.. that was the coolest thing !  wow, you did that fast.   WOW!
[04:48] <bullgard4> TheNewGuy1: No, not 'just'. You'll need to install wine. A complicated procedure.
[04:49] <TheNewGuy1> i got wine, and synaptic downloaded it and installed it.
[04:49] <josh_93> rgrasell: http://linux.com/news/software/applications/24655-mozilla-advances-the-web-with-firefox-35
[04:49] <Hilikus> OttifantSir: i don't know what he's talking about
[04:49] <bullgard4> Guest48544: I know this desperate feeling. It helps best that you put the question repeatedly in not too short intervals.
[04:49] <michta35> anyone have issue with installing ubuntu on an AM3 asus mobo and get the error that the firmware does not support k8 powernow or recogonize pss tables acpi etc
[04:49] <duckwars> How do I change X permissions. When I type startx I get "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting..."
[04:49] <rgrasell> josh_93: but that doesnt give me a .deb or a repo?
[04:49] <specto> !offtopic | josh_93
[04:50] <Hilikus> rgrasell: just install it. it's not an update though, its a separate package
[04:50] <michta35> Anyone with similiar issues that know of with asus motherboards? I can't install ubuntu or linux mint on either of my newer AM3 asus mobos
[04:50] <OttifantSir> !rules
[04:50] <Hilikus> rgrasell: so you will have both versions at the same time
[04:50] <michta35> centOS and the like install fine
[04:51] <Hilikus> rgrasell: firefox-3.5
[04:51] <cilipadi> TheNewGuy1 > you can have Sun's virtualbox running with simple WinXp
[04:51] <rgrasell> Hilikus: but there isnt a .deb anywhere?
[04:51] <Hilikus> rgrasell: its in the ubuntu repos already
[04:51] <josh_93> !offtopic
[04:51] <_ged> hi guys, i think i've asked this yesterday but i just need more clarifications before i do this stuff, the situation is i wanted to DELETE the panel (top and bottom panel)...then is there a workaround on how can i RETRIEVE it back again?
[04:51] <josh_93> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:51] <Jeruvy> jmoncayo: ACCEPT isn't a valid target for one, there are other errors in the iptables commands, you should look at reviewing this (whether this is ubuntu specific I'm not certain I don't play with iptables at this level).
[04:51] <josh_93> :/
[04:51] <rgrasell> Hilikus: ooohhh ok.  thanks!
[04:52] <Hilikus> rgrasell: np
[04:52] <TheNewGuy1> OK, I may have a simple solution.   Anyone know why my nework card stopped working in windows after I installed ubutu?  works fine for uutu, but will not work for windows 98 and it worked fine before I did the ubutu install.   if I could fix that, i would be golden.
[04:52] <sebsebseb> !panels |  _ged
[04:53] <lenswipe> hey guys
[04:53] <_ged> sebsebseb: thanks, i'll try it naw
[04:53] <lenswipe> does apache have execution privaliges denied by default?
[04:53] <Guest48544> bullgard4, lol, k thanks, i might just do that :D
[04:53] <sebsebseb> TheNewGuy1: Why are you using Windows 98, it has been years now with it not being supported by Microsoft
[04:53] <sebsebseb> _ged: np
[04:53] <bullgard4> Guest48544: I wish you good luck.
[04:53] <specto> lenswipe: privaliges are delegated by the owner and access of the particular file
[04:53] <Guest48544> bullgard4, thanks
[04:54] <TheNewGuy1> sorry.. I have xp
[04:54] <lenswipe> specto, right, so how do i check if apache has exec on my /var/www
[04:54] <thinkertinker> is there an issue with applications not recognising internet connection that was not configured via network manager
[04:54] <OttifantSir> _ged: I followed what I read yesterday, and simply copy-moved gnome-panel from /usr/bin to a folder in my home-folder. If I want it back, I'll copy-move it back to /usr/bin. The lower panel is apparently as easy as right-click and add panel
[04:54] <linux> i recently downloaded a graphics driver card for my laptop but the download came as an rpm file how do i install that?
[04:54] <rgrasell> Hilikus: I installed firefox 3.5.  it's a shiretoko beta?  where can I get the full release?
[04:54] <specto> !permissions | lenswipe
[04:54] <sebsebseb> TheNewGuy1: possible hardware issue or something like that,   Ubuntu  dosn't  cause things to not work in Windows
[04:54] <bazhang> linux, which graphic card
[04:54] <Hilikus> rgrasell: it's not beta
[04:55] <_ged> OttifantSir: ahm, how did you copied the gnome-panel?? is there a dir or folder of gnome?
[04:55] <Hilikus> rgrasell: that's the full release
[04:55] <Guest48544> can somebody please help me configure my wacom tablet? i am VERY desperate
[04:55] <linux> ATI Xpress 1100 bazhang:
[04:55] <rgrasell> Hilikus: why is it beta?
[04:55] <acp_>  I'm replacing my motherboard with same model cause the 2 slot for lan is not working, I'm running raid1 and ltsp using 9.04, any unexpected issue should I be expecting?
[04:55] <Hilikus> rgrasell: i just said, it's not beta
[04:55] <alkasmolik> Guest48544,  google it
[04:55] <TheNewGuy1> seb I don't think that is the case.
[04:55] <alkasmolik> i can always google my problems
[04:55] <bazhang> linux, have you first checked in hardware drivers? how new is the card
[04:55] <rgrasell> Hilikus: why does it have beta tag?
[04:55] <alkasmolik> except this one!!!
[04:55] <Hilikus> rgrasell: where??
[04:55] <Kreator> sup guys
[04:56] <sebsebseb> TheNewGuy1: Ubuntu support here not Windows support,  with an exception  of setting up dual boots.   Windows issues  take them to ##windows
[04:56] <linux> The computer i've had a few years now
[04:56] <rgrasell> Hilikus: in the application menu.  its called a beta.  and when you run it it says beta too
[04:56] <Hilikus> rgrasell: did you update the repos before installing it?
[04:56] <Leftmost> Is it possible to do something like apt-get upgrade that will only touch packages with security updates?
[04:56] <OttifantSir> _ged: I did something dangerous, and used Nautilus as superuser. sudo mv /usr/bin/gnome-panel /backup/folder is preferred
[04:56] <TheNewGuy1> The system is newer and worked fine until I loaded ubutu.  now i cant get the net card working in windows but works fine in linux.
[04:56] <_ged> OttifantSir: well, just as u said, its in the /usr/bin ^_^ thanks thanks
[04:56] <rgrasell> Hilikus: let me check...
[04:56] <Hilikus> rgrasell: apt-get update
[04:56] <Kreator> anyone here running xubuntu 9.04??
[04:56] <sebsebseb> TheNewGuy1: I think ##windows  and even ##hardware are better channels for your issue
[04:57]  * specto falls asleep.... zZzZzZzZ (goodnight)
[04:57] <alkasmolik> Sometimes, my windows dissappear when i click on them. only way to get them back is, i change desktops, then they reappear. NOW... they are sitting there in the window, title bar JUST out of screen. i cannt click on it to move them. so i THEN have ot right click on window in "task bar" and choose move and move with keyboard until windows becomes normal again.  any suggestions to fix this?  try googling that!@!
[04:57] <TheNewGuy1> are you telling me now one has had this problem?
[04:57] <bazhang> Kreator, please ask a question to the channel
[04:57] <duckwars> Can anyone help me, I can't run "startx" without being root...
[04:58] <Jeruvy> Guest48544: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[04:58] <TheNewGuy1> i tried them, they said that since is begain when I installed ubutu it a ubutu problem.
[04:58] <linux> banzang: am i right to say most downloads for ubuntu are good for deb but not rpm?
[04:58] <alkasmolik> any takers on my problem? slight annoyance
[04:59] <bazhang> linux, correct. you should install from Ubuntu repositories, and not 3rd party websites.
[04:59] <TheNewGuy1> :'(
[04:59] <rgrasell> Hilikus: its still called shiretoko.  not beta though :)  so its jus ta re-branding?
[04:59] <sebsebseb> TheNewGuy1: I have read something about hardware  and  then Internet not working  in  Ubuntu, but working in Windows,  or whatever
[04:59] <sebsebseb> TheNewGuy1: ,but not the other way round
[04:59] <linux> banzang ok thanks i see if i can find another download in deb or something for ubuntu
[05:00] <bazhang> linux, how old is the card
[05:00] <TheNewGuy1> yea... actually it is the other way around.
[05:00] <Geoffrey2> rgrasell, i take it you're also having fun with the rather quirky FF 3.5 in the repositories
[05:00] <TheNewGuy1> I saw something on it to, but can't find the post again.   it was from ubutu.
[05:00] <Hilikus> rgrasell: you got it. it's not beta but its rebranded cause the official ff for jaunty is 3.0
[05:00] <linux> banzang: maybe 5 to 10 years (i think)
[05:00] <sebsebseb> TheNewGuy1: Ubuntu  is just one of many Linux distributions,  and  for your particular issue you may  even  get some good help in ##linux
[05:01] <bazhang> linux, then the open source driver is what you need.
[05:01] <rgrasell> Geoffrey2: quirky? all I see is a different name :P
[05:01] <TheNewGuy1> ok, thank
[05:01] <Hilikus> and different icon
[05:01] <sebsebseb> TheNewGuy1: ok good luck
[05:01] <Hilikus> the icon in killing me, i keep not finding my browser
[05:01] <linux> bazhang thanks
[05:01] <michta35> no bios incompatiblity issues known with ubuntu out there?
[05:01] <rgrasell> lol I know.  im just gonna change the menu entry to make it the firefox icon :P
[05:02] <Geoffrey2> rgrasell, my install didn't leave me with any means of launching it, i had to drop to command line and manually rebuild all the links
[05:02] <bazhang> linux, the proprietary driver for ati won't support that card most likely, and fglrx for ati right now is not good
[05:02] <Hilikus> Geoffrey2: me too, but the icon is still the weird one
[05:02] <rgrasell> Geoffrey2: really? mine didn't either, but when I checked the menu a few minutes later it was there as shiretoko web browser
[05:02] <Geoffrey2> Hilikus, the earth instead of the familiar fox logo
[05:03] <Hilikus> yes
[05:03] <Jeruvy> michta35: well thats not a very good question.  Since the kernel will be the most affected, you should look at linux for issues, ubuntu is just built on that :)
[05:03] <sml12261> is there an AMD-64 version of skype?
[05:03] <michta35> Every distro but debian based ones work on both the servers mobos so far
[05:03] <michta35> linux mint and ubuntu get same errors
[05:03] <duckwars> How do I change X permissions?
[05:04] <robertr994> I changed from Windows to Ubuntu this morning,  at that time I didnt know about lamp. I have version 8.04LTS  and have apache installed and working.   What mysql package do I dl for install ?
[05:04] <Jeruvy> michta35: again, that doesn't mean much...if your mobo's need non debian distro's aka ubuntu then stick with them, whats the question?
[05:05] <Kalmi> !lamp | robertr994
[05:06] <robertr994> well Im past that,  installed apache already.  I just need to know what format of mysql do install
[05:06] <robertr994> I still dont know anything about Linux  lol
[05:06] <Geoffrey2> do keep in mind, LAMP is a great educational and developmental tool, but it's not really suited for a server that's going live.....
[05:07] <robertr994> my server is already live
[05:07] <_ged> thanks for the help about the gnome-panel thing ^_^
[05:07] <robertr994> looking at the mysql site, Im unsure what package to install
[05:08] <KvnBl> s
[05:08] <Jeruvy> robertr994: use apt-get or synaptic to install mysql.
[05:08] <Deevz> how can I change the environment variables?
[05:08] <robertr994> ok,  but its not there.....is it??  didnt see it
[05:09] <Ahadiel> robertr994, apt-cache search mysql
[05:09] <Jeruvy> robertr994: ^^
[05:09] <robertr994> in terminal?
[05:09] <Ahadiel> robertr994, of course
[05:10] <robertr994> ok, cool
[05:10] <sml12261> my apache server is working on my home network but outside networks can't see it, what am I doing wrong?
[05:10] <robertr994> see lots of code
[05:10] <robertr994> firewall?
[05:10] <robertr994> sml, sounds like a firewall or router issue
[05:11] <sml12261> robertr994 opened ports and allowed it through all firewalls
[05:11] <Ahadiel> sml12261, Did you forward the correct ports?
[05:11] <Ahadiel> sml12261, check /etc/hosts.allow
[05:11] <sml12261> probably my POS router
[05:11] <robertr994> bypass your router
[05:11] <robertr994> for test
[05:11] <Deevz> where can I edit the ld_library_path variable?
[05:11] <thinkertinker> i am connected to internet but firefox says it is working offline??is it the default mode to start??
[05:12] <Ahadiel> Deevz, Just set it before the command you want to run, ie. ld_library_path="blargh" command
[05:12] <ziroday> thinkertinker: File > Untick Work Offline
[05:12] <Navegante> holaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:12] <sml12261> robertr994 you mean direct to modem then get on outside net?
[05:12] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker: not usually untick work offline and try again
[05:12] <Ahadiel> Deevz, or put it in your .bashrc
[05:12] <robertr994> yes
[05:12] <Jeruvy> Deevz: http://blogs.sun.com/ali/entry/avoiding_ld_library_path_the
[05:12] <sml12261> I was up at 3 2 days ago
[05:12] <robertr994> usually that will let you see if its a port forward or DMZ issue
[05:12] <sml12261> oops
[05:13] <robertr994> if it works it is
[05:13] <sml12261> wrong spot
[05:13] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight:it works but all other applications using internet behaves similarly(pidgin -awaitong ntwrk conncn)
[05:13] <skellingtonx> hi, recently ive been having trouble with ubuntu. whenever i choose it from grub bootloader, it goes to the ubuntu boot menu, loads a little, then hangs. to remedy this i created a flash drive that i thought would boot(i made a bootable flashdrive before, thats how i installed ubuntu). however, the flash drive wouldnt boot, so i formatted in and tried a different image. same story. however,...
[05:13] <skellingtonx> ...this time when i went to format my flash drive, i could only format it to the size of the image i had written to it. now here are my questions: does anybody have any idea as to what is going on with my computer? can i save my flashdrive? and is there any way this is the flashdrives fault?
[05:13] <wdyrt> thinkertinker, you must of accidently turned that option on, its in the file list near the bottem
[05:14] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, is it a laptop?
[05:14] <thinkertinker> wdyrt:nope,firefox always startrs this way
[05:14] <skellingtonx> yes, an asus eepc 1000ha
[05:14] <sml12261> robertr994 I got an error with my ps3 straight to modem so maybe whole net is screwed up
[05:14] <skellingtonx> eeepc*
[05:14] <WIGGMPk1> Why wont "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y" install the new version of Virtualbox-3.0 and remove Virtualbox-2.2?? Just curious (not complaining)
[05:14] <wdyrt> oh, may i suggest wiping your settings?
[05:14] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, the next time you try booting it, hold down "enter" when it "freezes"
[05:14] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker:  i'd try pinginga few places see if your really connected
[05:15] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, if that fixes it, I know what to do.
[05:15] <robertr994> apt-cache search mysql worked,  now how do I get the install?
[05:15] <OttifantSir> sml12261: This is something I pulled off a video about IPtables: Your server doesn't start with a sudo-command, so it doesn't get access to port 80 (TCP), but instead ie 8080. You need to forward incoming request to port 80 to port 8080.
[05:15] <Ahadiel> robertr994, sudo apt-get install package_name
[05:15] <skellingtonx> ok ill try it right now. ill be back to report my results.
[05:15] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, sure thing
[05:15] <MT-> what port is sftp?
[05:15] <freter> anyone having problems with yahoo on kopete still?
[05:16] <robertr994> ok, let me figure out the package name  lol
[05:16] <wdyrt> thinkertinker, the settings are in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[05:16] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight:i am currently connected and using the same to chat here
[05:16] <OttifantSir> sml12261: That was an example. Your ports may be different
[05:16] <Ahadiel> robertr994, the first word on each line of "apt-cache search" is the package name
[05:16] <Ahadiel> robertr994, just pick the one you want
[05:16] <dmsuperman> I'm trying to determine the stability of the zfs-fuse package. Can I reliably assume that my data will be safe on it?
[05:16] <FSWolf> hey happy gang im tryin to find where the config file for ubuntus grub bootloader is stored
[05:16] <FSWolf> any one tell me ?
[05:16] <freter> anyone have a working yahoo setup on kopete at the moment
[05:17] <jmoncayo> hey guys, how can i completely clean the iptables?
[05:17] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker: thats wierd  it must think your offline initially i guess
[05:17] <Hilikus> FSWolf: /boot/grub
[05:17] <wdyrt> blackest_knight, i find it weird, how it would assume that
[05:17] <FSWolf> ok thanks
[05:17] <Jesused> Hello
[05:17] <blackest_knight> jmoncayo:  reboot maybe
[05:17] <Hilikus> MT-: you can google that or look in /etc/services
[05:17] <wdyrt> it must be some setting getting left over
[05:18] <FSWolf> mmmm
[05:18] <WIGGMPk1> jmoncayo: not to dismiss your question.. but you should check out gUFW after you clear out iptables.. Its a GUI for Uncomplicated Firewall and its very easy to use
[05:18] <FSWolf> im tryin to add a nother windows install to the grub bootloader  file
[05:18] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: wait..i am not using network manger to connect..
[05:18] <FSWolf> the default file is seeming empty
[05:18] <Jesused> Im from a phone with ubuntu
[05:19] <Hilikus> jmoncayo: i tried gufw and i wasn't impressed. i recommend learning the command line syntax. it's nothing compared to iptables
[05:19] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker:  could it be connecting on demand maybe
[05:19] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: is there something like ubuntu failing to tell my applications that i am connected to internet??
[05:19] <Hilikus> FSWolf: what do you mean it's empty
[05:19] <robertr994> good lawd  this is easy
[05:19] <Guest48544> can somebody please help me configure my wacom tablet? i am VERY desperate
[05:20] <Ahadiel> thinkertinker, some gnome applications check with networkmanager to see if one is connected to the internet.
[05:20] <robertr994> thanks for the help on this
[05:20] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: i dialup using wvdial and i edited wvdial.conf manually.. does that raise a prob??
[05:20] <Ahadiel> robertr994, glad you got it installed
[05:20] <jmoncayo> i already made the script and it works just fine, but i want to start fresh
[05:20] <dmsuperman> I'm trying to determine the stability of the zfs-fuse package. Can I reliably assume that my data will be safe on it?
[05:20] <MT-> Hilikus: oooh - nice file, thanks
[05:20] <thinkertinker> ahadiel: then what if i use wvdial to dial up??
[05:20] <robertr994> well, installed is one thing, configured  .....  lol
[05:20] <Hilikus> MT-: np
[05:21] <Ahadiel> thinkertinker, what application is giving you trouble?
[05:21] <freter> no one has any thoughts on yahoo?
[05:21] <FSWolf> nm thanks i found it :)
[05:21] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker:  that could be it , takes a while to establish connection dns server ect if your rushing it may not have fully established connection
[05:21] <thinkertinker> ahadiel:pidgin
[05:21] <duckwars> Can anyone help me run an X11 display through ssh?
[05:21] <robertr994> I just need to learn how this system works.   it seems to run 10th of the memory usage vs 2003 server
[05:21] <duckwars> I can do it at the physical machine, but not while ssh'ing in
[05:21] <Ahadiel> thinkertinker, other internet apps work?
[05:22] <Hilikus> duckwars: from another linux box?
[05:22] <Ahadiel> duckwars, you want to run apps via ssh and have them show up on your screen?
[05:22] <wileyfox> does anyone know if there is an irc command analogous to "whois"
[05:22] <duckwars> well I want to run a vnc server on a remote machine, but I can't because I can't run startx
[05:22] <thinkertinker> ahadiel: i am installing vlc player now..with add/remove applications.. that works..
[05:22] <duckwars> I don't have the permission to run startx
[05:22] <MustardTiger> hello all. I'm very new at this & have a install question.    I'm trying to dualboot & during the install it freezes at 5% when it says "creating ext3 file system. any help appreciated
[05:23] <blackest_knight> duckwars:  sudo startx
[05:23] <skellingtonx> ahadiel, no luck.
[05:23] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, hrm
[05:23] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, so the progress bar just freezes?
[05:23] <Hilikus> MustardTiger: how do you know it freezes
[05:23] <Ahadiel> thinkertinker, what account in pidgin isn't working?
[05:23] <MustardTiger> cause i left it over night
[05:23] <Hilikus> are you sure it's not taking its time
[05:23] <Hilikus> ooh
[05:23] <MustardTiger> 7hrs.
[05:23] <skellingtonx> yes, at about 7% i would say.
[05:24] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, and holding enter did nothing?
[05:24] <freter> anyone having yahoo messenger problems?
[05:24] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight:how to know if connection compleetly connected! from wvdial?
[05:24] <Hilikus> MustardTiger: did you run from a livecd?
[05:24] <skellingtonx> ahadiel, absolutely nothing.
[05:24] <thinkertinker> ahadiel:gtalk
[05:24] <OttifantSir> MustardTiger; That's frozen allright.
[05:24] <Ahadiel> thinkertinker, I'd imagine it's just gtalk that doesn't work then.
[05:24] <MustardTiger> I ran the installer off the CD & then restared & chose Ubuntu from load up.
[05:24] <Ahadiel> thinkertinker, Someone else was complaining about it not working either.
[05:24] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker:  do you start it from terminal ?
[05:24] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, hrm
[05:25] <MustardTiger> It then started to install & keep stopping at 5%
[05:25] <duckwars> even as sudo it says Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keygiving up
[05:25] <skellingtonx> ahadiel, my thoughts exactly.
[05:25] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, how do you get it to boot?
[05:25] <skellingtonx> ahadiel, grub bootloader
[05:25] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight:yes i start wvdial from terminal
[05:25] <freter> ive changed my page server setting several times in the last month, keep getting it to work for a bit then it quits, any thoughs ref. kopete
[05:25] <Hilikus> duckwars: what system are you ssh'ing FROM?
[05:25] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, I mean, how do you get past the freezing?
[05:25] <blackest_knight> duckwars:  google that msg
[05:25] <duckwars> OS x
[05:25] <OttifantSir> MustardTiger: Did the liveCD installer finish completely?
[05:25] <thinkertinker> ahadiel:it worked on my suse!!
[05:25] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, you mentioned a usb device
[05:25] <MustardTiger> yes.
[05:25] <Ahadiel> thinkertinker, check the connection settings for gtalk
[05:26] <Ahadiel> thinkertinker, maybe they're different
[05:26] <Hilikus> duckwars: i don't know if your ssh client in mac will let you, but try adding -X as an argument
[05:26] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker: doesnt it give you any feedback ?
[05:26] <Hilikus> so ssh -X <host>
[05:26] <robertr994> ok, php and mysql is installed, way to easy. guess I should reboot?
[05:26] <skellingtonx> ahadiel, ive never had freezing before. and i wanted to use the flash drive(the same flash drive i used to install ubuntu) to reinstall ubuntu. it wouldnt boot.
[05:26] <Hilikus> duckwars: that should forward X
[05:26] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight:yes it shows upto my secndry dns adrress.
[05:26] <duckwars> i'll tell you if it works, the system is restarting now
[05:26] <dunham> Anybody know where i can find epiphany. I just installed it using add/remove apps, it says it's installed but it's not under app -> internet. ANybody have any clue?
[05:27] <freter> dunham
[05:27] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, try adding acpi=off to the end of your kernel line
[05:27] <freter> log out then back in
[05:27] <OttifantSir> robertr994: If you're finished installing and want to start them, sure. If not, then keep them stopped and keep configuring.
[05:27] <ctmjr> MustardTiger, sounds like you might have a bad cd try running the check cd utility at startup
[05:27] <dunham> gotcha
[05:27] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, when you get to grub, press "e", and add that
[05:27] <freter> not sure why, but works lol
[05:27] <mikel> hi someone can help me to do an install script to install ubuntu by the minimal cd with the command line ?
[05:27] <skellingtonx> what would that do exactly?
[05:28] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, disables acpi
[05:28] <Ahadiel> skellingtonx, that could be what's hanging it
[05:28] <skellingtonx> okeedokee.
[05:28] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker:  i use dialup with phone modem aand run a script pppd call gprs often the server doesnt allocate an address  and it fails but if you instlled network monitor aplet and set it to ppp0 you would see it connect and get an address
[05:28] <robertr994> yeah, have my php site online with a html backup in its place,  should restart.  any idea if I need to edit apache or did it do it?
[05:28] <dunham> ty, it's up
[05:28] <duckwars> startx -X doesn't help
[05:28] <Ahadiel> duckwars, I think he meant to start ssh with -X
[05:28] <duckwars> I also get xauth: error in locking authority file /home/username/.Xauthority
[05:28] <dunham> firefox was to slow loading pages... figured i'd try epiphany
[05:28] <duckwars> ohhh
[05:29] <Hilikus> duckwars: no, i said ssh -X, this is not to start X, its to forward it to your client
[05:29] <freter> welcome dunham, anyone  have any thoughts on yahoo messenger settings for kopete?
[05:29] <Ahadiel> duckwars, did you set "DISPLAY" prior to running startx?
[05:29] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight:..hmmm... should i make changes in my network manager??
[05:29] <OttifantSir> robertr994: I think you need to configure apache. From what I know, if you don't the site it will show is "It Works!"
[05:29] <duckwars> i tried ssh -X
[05:29] <robertr994> http://www.kwtfstudio.com/asx/Screenshot.png  this rocks
[05:29] <Ahadiel> duckwars, try DISPLAY=:0.0 startx
[05:30] <Ahadiel> duckwars, but not with ssh -X
[05:30] <duckwars> and error in locking authority file /home/username/.Xauthority
[05:30] <blackest_knight> no add to panel network applet you might need to install it
[05:30] <robertr994> ok apache is no biggie to configure
[05:30] <MustardTiger> okay, I'll try that. thanks.
[05:30] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight:.and how after that??
[05:31] <Deevz> ok, someone suggested I type in a new line in /etc/bashrc to set the ld_library_path variable, now what would be the syntax of that line?
[05:31] <duckwars> display=:0.0 startx doesn't work, I get like 5 errors along the lines of
[05:31] <blackest_knight> once its on the panel change the device to ppp0 then you'll see when its connected
[05:31] <duckwars> xauth: error in locking authority file /home/username/.Xauthority
[05:31] <Ahadiel> duckwars, check if .Xauthority is owned by you
[05:31] <duckwars> and then "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting"
[05:32] <OttifantSir> robertr994: If you have experience in hosting, maybe not. For me, it's something I fear deep down in my heart.
[05:32] <Ahadiel> duckwars, ohhhh, hold on, I think I know
[05:32] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: "NetworkManager Applet"is in my panel currently
[05:32] <LeChacal> hey, is it just me being dumb or something but I can't the find the acroread package in the repositories anywhere, can anyone confirm or tell me what repositories it is in, thank you.
[05:32] <joseluis_> ccccccccc
[05:32] <Hilikus> duckwars: did you configure X to start automatically?
[05:32] <duckwars> not that I know of
[05:32] <mezquitale> anyone here has used dyndns.com for IP resolution?  I am trying to find out what the interface should be if your machine is using a cable modem and behind a router?  Using eth0 uses the router IP not the routable IP from the cable modem
[05:32] <robertr994> been hosting since 2003 on windows,  today is my first try on linux
[05:32] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker: what device is it set to show
[05:32] <legend2440> duckwars: right click .Xauthority and choose properties>permissions  make sure its not root and read write atre checked
[05:33] <legend2440> are
[05:33] <duckwars> just read write for owner
[05:33] <joseluis_> Something know a ide to python???
[05:33] <duckwars> it's root root though
[05:33] <robertr994> I love the way the machine is running now even though I cant get my video and sound installed.....  no biggie its a server
[05:33] <mezquitale> robertr994, what's it like hosting on windows?  ever had your sites hacked a lot and had code injected to your sites?  how about reliability?
[05:33] <freter> no one having any issues with kopete and yahoo messenger?
[05:33] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: sorry not sure!! it shows an icon for wi-fi netwrk range.
[05:33] <legend2440> duckwars: it should not be root root  bur yourname:yourname
[05:33] <Ahadiel> duckwars, are you trying to startx as root?
[05:33] <legend2440> but
[05:33] <robertr994> hacked all the time,  reliable???  only if I babysit
[05:33] <mezquitale> freter, pidgin cant login to yahoo, someone has a work around but who cares, no more yahoo for me
[05:34] <benjimix> hi everyone
[05:34] <benjimix> :)
[05:34] <duckwars> even when I try to startx as root I get problems
[05:34] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker:  install a 2nd one and then right click it for properties
[05:34] <duckwars> Fatal server error: Server is already active for diplay 0
[05:34] <freter> is there another chat client for yahoo messenger that is working ? i just need it thats all
[05:34] <Hilikus> duckwars: why do you want to start X manually???
[05:34] <duckwars> If this server is no longer running, remove /temp/.X0-lock and start again
[05:34] <Severity1> mezquitale, its just a server mapping issue.
[05:34] <Ahadiel> duckwars, maybe try DISPLAY=:0.1 startx
[05:34] <djlenoir> i am trying to backup some files off my bad ubuntu load to usb drive using the live cd and getting locked files in my home folder. how can i get around this to unlock them so i can copy them?
[05:35] <duckwars> because my vncserver software requires it running
[05:35] <benjimix> hey would anyone in here be able to answer a question that i have about getting Tomcat6 set up on Hardy Heron?
[05:35] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: do i get it from "add to panel"?..can u pls say the name of applet??
[05:35] <Hilikus> duckwars: are you sure it's not running already?
[05:35] <blackest_knight> djlenoir:  sudo nautilus
[05:35] <duckwars> didn't seem to work
[05:35] <ctmjr> LeChacal, it is in the medibuntu repo  acroread-fonts - Fonts for Acrobat reader - Medibuntu package
[05:35] <robertr994> im just very happy seeing this AMD64 run like its supposed to on Ubuntu compared to windows running 1.5 gig of ram on idle
[05:35] <djlenoir> blackest_knight: ok thanks
[05:35] <mezquitale> Severity1, that's what I thought but i dont want to waste time configuring something i use once every blue moon, i chat more on freenode way more than on yahoo
[05:35] <gartral> I can't get winff to encode... it keeps saying I don't have encoders
[05:35] <duckwars> well at the actual physical computer there is no desktop
[05:35] <budo> computer reports cant find a package and it should be there..the package is listed on the Jaunty' standard package list
[05:36] <Hilikus> duckwars: that doesn't mean X is not running
[05:36] <blackest_knight> add to panel network monitor
[05:36] <mezquitale> my AMD 64 bit is quite happy with ubuntu studio 8.10
[05:36] <Ahadiel> duckwars, maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151703
[05:36] <Hilikus> duckwars: can you ssh to the machine?
[05:36] <OttifantSir> gartral: Search for ffmpeg and install all of them that you need.
[05:36] <jeffs> any one know of any good dssi synths for ubuntu??
[05:36] <mezquitale> anyone here has used dyndns.com for IP resolution?  I am trying to find out what the interface should be if your machine is using a cable modem and behind a router?  Using eth0 uses the router IP not the routable IP from the cable modem
[05:37] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: i cant find it there.
[05:37] <budo> how can i scroll thru the package list or search through it on command line?
[05:37] <djlenoir> hmm, sudo nautilus apparently is not enough... getting permission denied to copy the files
[05:37] <freter> is there another chat client that is supporting yahoo messenger?
[05:37] <LeChacal> ctmjr, that is just fonts i have that installed but that isnt acroread, i just reinstalled janunty and i had it installed before i reloaded my system
[05:37] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: i cant find it there.but when i installed jaunty it came along.
[05:37] <gartral> OttifantSir: I did.
[05:38] <blackest_knight> ok you need to install it with synaptic search network applet  to find it
[05:38] <robertr994> mez, some of the cheaper modems will not port forward even though the options are there.  try bypassing the router to see if this is the case for you
[05:38] <Hilikus> mezquitale: what do you mean? dyndns just translates to you ip, your router doesn't need to know about it
[05:38] <blackest_knight> freter other than pidgin or amsn ?
[05:38] <LeChacal> ctmjr, and apt wont let you just install acroread-fonts because it has acroread as a dependency
[05:38] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: i cant find it there is it beacuse it has been added once?
[05:38] <OttifantSir> gartral: Did you get the ones from Medibuntu?
[05:38] <gartral> OttifantSir: it shouldn't matter... Im going from Theora too Theora
[05:38] <robertr994> gonna reboot, thanks all for the help !
[05:39] <benjimix> when i try to start tomcat6 on ubuntu it does not seem to be able to find any JARS that are in my WEB-INF/lib directory (eg: i get a NoClassDefFoundError) - the JARs are there, CATALINA_HOME and CATALINA_BASE are set and the WAR file works in my local (Windows) tomcat instance. would anyone here be able to shed some light on this?
[05:39] <jeffs> i've been trying to find some good synth plugins for my ubuntu studio thats not listed on the dist. page..any one know of any?
[05:39] <budo> is there a way to search the package list?
[05:39] <blackest_knight> no you can add as many as you want i tend to have 1 per interface
[05:39] <gartral> OttifantSir: its throwing Unknown encoder 'mpeg2video' on exit
[05:39] <Hilikus> budo: apt-cache search
[05:39] <budo> from a command line
[05:39] <pinoyskull> this is OT: anybody knows of an antenna supplier for 3G usb modems?
[05:39] <duckwars> Well here's the overall problem.  When I start the vnc server at the terminal on the physical VNC server machine, already in a GUI, the vnc server works, BUT when I try to launch it from a foreign machine while ssh'ing in, it doesn't work
[05:40] <gartral> pinoyskull: that question belongs in ##hardware or ##electronics
[05:40] <pinoyskull> ah, thanks gartral for the direction
[05:40] <Hilikus> duckwars: why don't you just forward X, do you really need vnc?
[05:40] <blackest_knight> duckwars why do you need the remote desktop ?
[05:41] <Severity1> hi pinoyskull
[05:41] <duckwars> what is forwarding X? I need to work with the gui desktop a lot of the time because I can't really do EVERYTHING through command line
[05:41] <mezquitale> Hilikus, dynsdns.com needs to update your dynamic IP, I have to use a client on my machine to update my IP, however when you configure the client you have to specify an interface, I thought it was "eth0" however eth0 is the local IP provided by the router and is non-routable, I need the interface for the cable modem which has a routable IP
[05:41] <pinoyskull> Severity1:  hi
[05:41] <ctmjr> LeChacal, your welcome
[05:42] <skellingtonx> ahadiel, *sigh*
[05:42] <Polux_> someone can help me ?
[05:42] <Hilikus> duckwars: one thing is controlling the remote desktop (VNC) other is forwarding X which will open windows from the remote machine as if they were local
[05:42] <blackest_knight> duckwars: right its simple enough ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-X and then start the graphical program and it will pop up as  a window on your local system
[05:43] <OttifantSir> gartral: I'm sorry, I'm too tired to remember anything right now. It's gettling close to 7am and I need to get some sleep. I seem to remember having the problem myself once. Try the forums.   What is a graphical program I can use with os x?
[05:44] <duckwars> doesn't seem to work just typing ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-X
[05:44] <blackest_knight> duckwars: try nautilus see if it works
[05:44] <Hilikus> mezquitale: yes, server behind a firewall behind a router/modem with NAT
[05:44] <Hilikus> mezquitale: try inadyn
[05:45] <gbear14275> I'm confused about the difference between paravirtualization and hypervisors (baremetal virtualization).  I would like to try out running xen as a hypervisor on my machine and with ubuntu as a domU (or Dom0... not completely sure how it all works yet).  Anyone done this before or have a pointer to a good howto?
[05:45] <gartral> thanks OttifantSir
[05:45] <Hilikus> duckwars: try putting -X before the host
[05:45] <Hilikus> and then start anything graphical like emacs or gedit
[05:45] <budo> wget program. thats what i needed !
[05:45] <budo> thanks Hilikus
[05:46] <mezquitale> Hilikus, that's OK, thanks, I already made my choice and it's working, I just have to figure out what interface I should use, I think the interface is "web" but I guess I'll find out later on when I get a new IP
[05:46] <blackest_knight> duckwars:  provided username is a valid a/c on the remote system it should ask for your password within about 30 secs
[05:46] <djlenoir> can the ubuntu install cd create a guid partition?
[05:46] <djlenoir> or just mbr
[05:47] <Hilikus> whats the most common c++ IDE in ubuntu?
[05:47] <duckwars> when i do the -X a program in os x comes up called X11, but it doesn't seem to show me the desktop
[05:47] <Hilikus> duckwars: you won't get the desktop, but the apps that you open
[05:47] <gartral> duckwars: X11 user in Mac is... strange..
[05:47] <blackest_knight> Hilikus: eclipse or netbeans
[05:47] <Jeruvy> djlenoir: um yes.
[05:48] <Hilikus> blackest_knight: really? for c++?
[05:48] <Hilikus> i use those in windows for java
[05:48] <duckwars> I won't et a desktop?
[05:48] <blackest_knight> they have c++ plugins
[05:49] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: no hope to add another netwrk monitor applet.. i looked around but cant find it
[05:50] <JohnnyZero> I have a question guys. Is the Optiarc AD 7240 Series compatible with Jaunty?
[05:50] <JohnnyZero> And why can't wodim fixate the disc?
[05:52] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker: gnome-netstatus-applet
[05:52] <ROOT78s> Acer aspire one can I get linux on it
[05:52] <Hilikus> ROOT78s: of course
[05:52] <blackest_knight> i have :) i'm using it
[05:53] <gbear14275> anyone here used secure delete before?
[05:53] <Dulak> ROOT78: I'm on an acer d150 running ubuntu just fine
[05:53] <gbear14275> I'm actually wondering if I run the command srm -R from the / directory... what would happen?  Would the whole disk get wiped because the file will execute and its in RAM, or will it delete and eventually delete itself?
[05:54] <guillaume> Hello everyone. I just installed an ubuntu Jaunty on an ibook g3 (powerpc) and I'm unable to read movie with mplayer neither totem because of some altivec flags... How can I solve that ?
[05:55] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: wel now how to put it there?? need i install gnome-netstatus-applet??
[05:56] <blackest_knight> thinkertinker: sudo apt-get install gnome-netstatus-applet
[05:56] <blackest_knight> once its installed you can add to panel
[05:56] <zoquete> hi
[05:56] <JohnnyZero> guillaume have you installed all the plugins?
[05:56] <JohnnyZero> good, bad and ugly?
[05:57] <zoquete> anyone knows anyone on xubuntu that can support me?
[05:57] <thinkertinker> blackest_knight: lemme try it..
[05:57] <ROOT78s> I have a 160 g net book
[05:57] <zoquete> I've xubuntu 9.04
[05:57] <zoquete> and it's really slow
[05:57] <zoquete> i can't work :S
[05:57] <JohnnyZero> guillaume: Try going to synaptic and installing all the plugins.
[05:57] <gogeta> zoquete: err new pc?
[05:57] <zoquete> yes
[05:58] <zoquete> i've a Lenovo SL400 laptop
[05:58] <Hilikus> zoquete: what's slow?
[05:58] <guillaume> JohnnyZero: which plugin ? mplayer does not have any and the needed for gstreamer segfault
[05:58] <zoquete> and two days ago installed xub
[05:58] <jumentous> hey, i'm playing around with packaging and at the moment using it to deploy a couple of .conf scripts on a new comp, however i get the error 'trying to overwrite X, which is also in package Y', which is fine, is there a setting that i can use to allow this from within the package
[05:58] <zoquete> i use Eclipse PDT
[05:58] <zoquete> and Firefox
[05:58] <zoquete> and Open Office
[05:58] <gogeta> zoquete: and
[05:58] <fornix> zoquete: those 3 are enough to kill processor!
[05:58] <zoquete> the three programs are slow
[05:58] <zoquete> and a terminal
[05:58] <JohnnyZero> guillaume: There should be 3 sets of plugins for gstreamer. Good, Bad and Ugly
[05:59] <zoquete> i've a core 2 duo
[05:59] <gogeta> zoquete: all 3 at once
[05:59] <guillaume> sorry, I need to be more precise in my request. Every multimedia application crash with illegal instructions because they are compiled with altivec that my g3 does not support.
[05:59] <Hilikus> zoquete: run top and see what's slowing it
[05:59] <zoquete> typing in the terminal uses a lot of processor
[05:59] <zoquete> xorg
[05:59] <gogeta> guillaume: vlc
[05:59] <JohnnyZero> Yeah vlc is good
[06:00] <zoquete> Xog uses over 20% the 90% of the time
[06:00] <JohnnyZero> Or you could always get wine or buy crossover and use Windows Media Player or Winamp
[06:00] <gogeta> guillaume: not only osx defently ppc
[06:00] <SuspectZero> how do i disable the feature to restart programs that were left on before reboot?
[06:00] <DrDerek> you don't
[06:00] <SuspectZero> why :S
[06:00] <SuspectZero> XD
[06:00] <Hilikus> zoquete: 20% is not that much
[06:00] <gogeta> guillaume: used to have it on my osx g3
[06:00] <zoquete> yes
[06:00] <zoquete> change tabs in firefox 2secs
[06:00] <zoquete> change desktops 2 secs
[06:01] <JohnnyZero> gillaume: I used Windows Media Player on Ubuntu for a bit there. Worked out fine for me. But I also spent alot of money for Crossover. It does get pricey.
[06:01] <Hilikus> zoquete: what video driver are you using
[06:01] <zoquete> change aplications 3 sec
[06:01] <oyenk> hello
[06:01] <zoquete> it's really unconfortable
[06:01] <Hilikus> and when you do that xorg goes up?
[06:01] <durt> zoquete, how much mem?
[06:01] <gogeta> JohnnyZero: and you could have used winetricks and installed it for free
[06:01] <fornix> my X uses 1% cpu
[06:01] <gogeta> lol
[06:01] <JohnnyZero> oh...yeah at the time I didn't know that lol
[06:02] <zoquete> 509MB of 2GB ram and 2GB swap
[06:02] <WindPower> Hi people, I just bought this Asus laptop and am using Kubuntu 9.04-bits on it right now, but the Ethernet controller doesn't work. I tried on Ubuntu as well, and its 32-bit version. I'm using the wireless right now but it slow, unstable, and in a few days it won't be available anymore cause I'll be moving, so I need the ethernet controller to work. It's a SiS 191 Gigabit ethernet controller. I've googled around for 2 days now a
[06:02] <WindPower>  read dozens of forums posts and mailing list messages, some of them going back to 2005, and most of them ending without solution. Any suggestions?
[06:02] <oyenk> can some one help me....?
[06:02] <guillaume> gogeta: vlc same problem, it use altivec flags
[06:02] <jeffs> any one use ubuntu to produce music?
[06:02] <fornix> windows media player?? why would anyone use that? i use mplayer. even when i am on windows
[06:02] <durt> oyenk, just ask
[06:03] <zoquete> video driver?
[06:03] <gogeta> guillaume: unfortanly ubuntu has no real ppc support
[06:03] <zoquete> the xorg.conf file have defaults values for all
[06:03] <legend2440> gbear14275: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4fzInlyYQo&feature=related
[06:03] <skellingtonx> ahadiel, you there?
[06:03] <JohnnyZero> fornix: this was before I realized that vlc works a hell of alot better
[06:03] <gogeta> guillaume: yellow dog linux is best for ppc macs
[06:03] <xim_> is there a somewhat simple way to slow down a cp command, like so it doesnt overheat my drive, or gives periodic rests or something?
[06:03] <zoquete> the video is a Intel 4500MHD onboard
[06:03] <Hilikus> zoquete: yes but you still need a driver to talk to you video card
[06:03] <JohnnyZero> Right now I am on PCBSD but I am thinking of going back to Jaunty assuming I can get my CD Burner working on Jaunty.
[06:03] <gogeta> guillaume: or even osx
[06:04] <Hilikus> zoquete: mmm then i don't know. never used intel video cards
[06:04] <guillaume> gogeta: osx is not a solution, I don't want an os which is 10 years old, and the newest release of osx does not run on that laptop
[06:04] <zoquete> i understand that Intel are automatic recognized (sorry my english, i speak spanish)
[06:04] <JohnnyZero> I want wodim to be able to fixate my discs and for it to actually work as a DVD burner like it should. Not just as a CD Rom.
[06:04] <gogeta> guillaume: osx tiger does
[06:05] <MustardTiger> Hello again,  I check the CD & it's fine.   I tried installing (duelboot XP) from live CD. I slide the partition size for Ubuntu to 18GB,  when it tries to "resize partition" it stays at 0% and come back with error.
[06:05] <gogeta> guillaume: unfortanly ppc is just dead
[06:05] <mlm> 45
[06:05] <mlm> 5959+
[06:05] <JohnnyZero> gogeta: Well unless you count the Cell chip. But thats really only used in PS3s
[06:05] <MustardTiger> I then ge the option to "prepare partion" and it list my current drives but I don't know what to do. Any help?
[06:05] <zoquete> ok, thanks
[06:06] <zoquete> i try on xubuntu forum but is nothing here
[06:06] <guillaume> gogeta: not for me. I have a pretty good laptop and until I found a better one, I'll want to keep that one
[06:06] <gbear14275> legend2440: this is fun to watch... I'm actually getting nervous
[06:07] <oyenk> i have problem when instaLL virtual box.."Error: Wrong architecture 'amd64'"
[06:07] <oyenk> any suggest bout that..?
[06:07] <JohnnyZero> guillaume try vlc and see what happens.
[06:07] <guillaume> JohnnyZero: same thing, it crashs
[06:07] <JohnnyZero> Hmm
[06:07] <Ahadiel> oyenk, paste the output of uname -a
[06:07] <JohnnyZero> What is the error message. I'll google it for you.
[06:07] <gogeta> guillaume: http://us.fixstars.com/support/downloads/
[06:08] <gogeta> yellow dog
[06:08] <JohnnyZero> Ah too late lol
[06:08] <gogeta> thats a ppc linux
[06:08] <gogeta> ubuntu ppc is third party only
[06:08] <gogeta> it was droped years ago
[06:08] <guillaume> JohnnyZero: Illegal instruction ;) I allready googled it... There is lots of people talking about it on internet, but noone give a solution except "buy a new computer"
[06:08] <guillaume> gogeta: it was working on edgy
[06:08] <JohnnyZero> LOL oh sorry
[06:09] <gogeta> edgy i beleve was the very last one
[06:09] <legend2440> gbear14275: you want to remove Ubuntu?
[06:09] <gogeta> edgy had ppc support even thow it got droped
[06:10] <guillaume> gogeta: thank for yellowdog, but I prefere compile my own mplayer rather than installing a new system
[06:10] <JohnnyZero> Doesn't arch linux have PPC support?
[06:10] <mlissner> Hi, I'm trying to write a clever script using the mail command, but it's prompting me for a CC, and I have to press ^D for it to send the message. Does anybody have any ideas how to turn these off?
[06:10] <oyenk> i try to instaL build essential
[06:10] <Dulak> it's all g4 or better, the g3 is kinda SOL
[06:10] <gbear14275> legend2440: terminating a managed server service on an unfriendly basis (they suck, i'm changing my cc number)... I want to wipe the hard drive
[06:10] <Ahadiel> oyenk, paste the output of uname -a
[06:10] <JohnnyZero> guillaume, theres always the wine option too
[06:10] <guillaume> Hey, I don't want a new system... If there is no solution out of the box, i'll build from source mplayer and ffmpeg...
[06:10] <JohnnyZero> If you haven't tried that already
[06:10] <guillaume> JohnnyZero: wine ?
[06:10] <Hilikus> mlissner: i think if you send the whole message in 1 command it wont ask for it
[06:11] <MustardTiger> i get stuck (error) at the partition part with installing either from the LiveCD or after the Installer. Can I do the partition manually & how?
[06:11] <oyenk> but there`s some error too...>>build-essential: Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.3.1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:11] <mlissner> Hilikus, is there a trick to doing that that I'm missing?
[06:11] <JohnnyZero> Yeah you can run wine and try out Winamp or Quicktime.
[06:11] <Hilikus> mlissner: what are you currently doing
[06:11] <Jeruvy> guillaume: its only supported in community now, which pretty much means rollyourown :)
[06:11] <mlissner> my command is something like: mail -s"subject"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:11] <guillaume> JohnnyZero: have you any ideo how wine work ?
[06:11] <Dulak> guillaiume: your only real option is to compile your own media player without the multimedia extensions, the g3 breaks the hell out of extension detection
[06:11] <gogeta> Dulak: yellow dog seems to still have g3
[06:11] <Hilikus> mlissner: where do you write the body?
[06:12] <mlissner> Hilikus: No body. Just a subject.
[06:12] <JohnnyZero> guillaume: well I use Crossover and it kinda just runs the exe files I need it to
[06:12] <mlissner> Hilikus: Though a blank body, or a space, or whatever is fine.
[06:12] <guillaume> Dulak: yeah, I know it is a solution, I was wondering if there is something simpler without the time of the compilation ;)
[06:12] <JohnnyZero> I just double click, install it and there it is.
[06:12] <guillaume> JohnnyZero: you are on x86 ;)
[06:12] <oyenk> Linux oyenk 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:12] <JohnnyZero> guilaume: yeah.....I guess you're right
[06:13] <Ahadiel> oyenk, You can't install AMD64 Virtualbox on that
[06:13] <Dulak> guillaume: not really
[06:13] <Ahadiel> oyenk, download the 32-bit version
[06:13] <JohnnyZero> and you are somewhat correct guillaume. I am on an x86_64
[06:14] <guillaume> Dulak: ok... and you think it can be possible to ask for a .deb without the altivec extension ? Btw i'm not the only one in this situation...
[06:14] <gogeta> guillaume: compile it from source make a deb
[06:14] <Dulak> guillaume: it's pretty simple to make your own deb
[06:15] <JohnnyZero> guillaume: Unless you can find an old rpm and convert it with alien.
[06:15] <gogeta> guillaume: thers a program that will do it for you the name i forgot lol
[06:15] <Hilikus> mlissner: try echo " " | mail -s HEAD <address>
[06:15] <guillaume> gogeta, Dulak, the idea is to avoid doing it myself, if I run an ubuntu it's because a gentoo take too much time. If i must start compiling myself, I'll install a gentoo ;)
[06:15] <oyenk> ok tq :)
[06:16] <gogeta> guillaume: well ubuntu isnt a legicy distro
[06:16] <JohnnyZero> guillaume: Have you tried searching for an old rpm file that will install?
[06:16] <mlissner> Hilikus: Brilliant.
[06:16] <Dulak> guillaume: compiling one package to solve your problem is hardly gentooish.  If you don't want to take the time to solve your own problem, I don't see why anyone else should.
[06:16] <mlissner> Hilikus: Thank you kindly for your creativity.
[06:16] <JohnnyZero> and converting it with alien
[06:16] <Hilikus> mlissner: np
[06:16] <Guest58516> Hi. I want to clone a 160GB disk onto a 500GB disk from the live cd. Would this command do the job? dd if=<drive 1> of=<drive 2>
[06:16] <guillaume> Dulak: because anyone can have a computer faster than mine ;)
[06:17] <gogeta> guillaume: becides you fix others to spreding the love
[06:17] <Dulak> guillaume: you start the compile right before you go to bed, it's done by the morning.  You won't notice the time.
[06:17] <gogeta> guillaume: if he conpiled it on a non g3 it would compile badly and be slow
[06:17] <gogeta> we
[06:17] <vox> Guest58516: it'll do it, but you'll end up with 160gb accessable on the 500gb disk
[06:17] <JohnnyZero> Lemme search around for a proggie guillaume
[06:17] <Dulak> guillaume: I have no sympathy, I remember compiling kernels on a 386
[06:17] <vox> Guest58516: use 'gparted' on the live cd
[06:18] <Guest58516> vox, will i be able to expand the disk afterward?
[06:18] <gogeta> guillaume: thats how optmisied compiles work
[06:18] <Guest58516> with gparted?
[06:18] <vox> Guest58516: it will do exactly what you're looking for
[06:18] <oyenk> why..sometimes when i update my pacckage...there`s error  GPG error: http://dl2.foss-id.web.id intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:18] <guillaume> gogeta: you can optimise compilation for different targets
[06:18] <Guest58516> You mean skip dd entirely?
[06:18] <vox> Guest58516: yes
[06:18] <vox> Guest58516: just run 'gparted'
[06:18] <gogeta> guillaume: its not the same using emulation
[06:18] <Guest58516> Oh OK
[06:18]  * JohnnyZero shrugs
[06:18] <Guest58516> Thanks a lot.
[06:18] <JohnnyZero> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=dapper&keywords=mplayer
[06:19] <vox> Guest58516: no probs
[06:19] <guillaume> gogeta: why are you talking about emulation ?
[06:19] <moymoy> Guest58516: i can't see why you can't expand it.. but according to the ubuntu release notes, expanding an ext4 partition may cause lots of data loss
[06:19] <gogeta> guillaume: if you compile for ppc on a x86 its compiling on a totaly diffrent arc
[06:19] <Guest58516> That's what I'm using too.
[06:19] <Guest58516> Good thing I checked. Thanks again.
[06:19] <gogeta> cross compling
[06:19] <guillaume> gogeta: yes, it's like crosscompilation work.
[06:20] <gogeta> and its worse then nativ
[06:20] <guillaume> gogeta: I'm wondering why...
[06:21] <gogeta> guillaume: igts going to use genrec calls then looking at a real one and making the optmisions
[06:21] <JohnnyZero> guillaume: have you looked at this?
[06:21] <JohnnyZero> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues
[06:21] <gbear14275> here goes nothing... secure delete root :)
[06:23] <JohnnyZero> Meh that has nothing on it
[06:23] <guillaume> JohnnyZero: it does not help
[06:24] <JohnnyZero> guillaume: only other thing I can suggest is really delve into google to search for a deb
[06:24] <phorensic> Anyone know if I uninstall phpmyadmin and reinstall phpmyadmin, will my databases still be there?
[06:24] <guillaume> gogeta: what are you calling genrec call ?
[06:25] <wired22> I need some help with Ubuntu...
[06:25] <phorensic> hi terry
[06:25] <moymoy> what help do you need?
[06:25] <gogeta> baa
[06:25] <wired22> It has a ton of trouble loading flash content and anything that takes up the full screen
[06:26] <JohnnyZero> guillaume: Its possible someone already did compile it from source.  Check here http://code.google.com/
[06:26] <wired22> Even when it does load it is extremely laggy
[06:26] <Hilikus> wired22: are you using the open source flash or the proprietary one?
[06:26] <Varth> Hey, I'm running Skype on 9.04, on a Lenovo S10 netbook, and sometimes the other chatter's video dies and then won't redraw. Anyone know what the problem might be?
[06:27] <WindPower_> Help, anyone? My connection died at some point cause the wireless is unreliable, so I might have missed some messages during that time
[06:27] <phorensic> If I uninstall phpmyadmin and then reinstall it, will my mysql databases still be there untouched?
[06:27] <gogeta> JohnnyZero: knothing beats trying to eexplane how compiling works in lamemns terms
[06:27] <gogeta> lol
[06:27] <wired22> Hilikus: Proprietary
[06:27] <Hilikus> phorensic: they should be, yes
[06:27] <Hilikus> wired22: mmm then idk
[06:28] <JohnnyZero> gogeta: I usually just follow a wiki. I do it the "for dummies" way
[06:28] <phorensic> Hilikus: do you know how to back up my databases just in case?
[06:28] <gogeta> JohnnyZero: lol i knoe a nativ ssmokes a cross thats abought it
[06:28] <Hilikus> phorensic: mysqldump --all-databases > backup   i believe
[06:28] <Nameless_au> when one does a sudo reboot from a terminal, does the session still get saved?
[06:29] <zaltekk> I can't get myself associated to a wireless network.  My wireless card uses the ath5k driver.  Here( http://paste.linuxassist.net/214937 ) is the output from ifconfig, iwconfig, and iwlist.  Any ideas what I am doing incorrectly?
[06:29] <gogeta> Nameless_au: i beleve so i have done it
[06:29] <JohnnyZero> gogeta I've had to compile before. I had to actually on Arch Linux.
[06:29] <JohnnyZero> Never really on Ubuntu though
[06:29] <Hilikus> phorensic: but make sure you do it with a user that has full rights, like root
[06:30] <Hilikus> phorensic: actually you might be able to do it from phpmyadmin before you remove it
[06:30] <gogeta> JohnnyZero: thats becouse ubuntu has debs for everything even kernel patches
[06:30] <gogeta> lol
[06:30] <skellingtonx> quick question: how do i make my flash drive bootable>
[06:30] <Jeruvy> Nameless_au: I use shutdown -r, and it seems to save the session ok
[06:30] <guillaume> gogeta: still does find what are you calling "genrec call" ?
[06:30] <skellingtonx> ?*
[06:30] <phorensic> Hilikus: haah well thats the problem. My friend changed the permissions somewhere so we cant get into it
[06:30] <Nameless_au> gogeta: by "i have done it" are you implying you can do it by adding certain arguments/switches or that it does it automatically upon reboot, just like through the gui?
[06:30] <gogeta> guillaume: non optmised
[06:31] <Hilikus> phorensic: permissions or password?
[06:31] <Rat409> skellingtonx: try syslinux
[06:31] <Guest97480> Hilikus is there a file where the database is located that can be copied and pasted?
[06:31] <gogeta> Nameless_au: sudo reboot that i did everything semmed saved
[06:31] <mubu> Hey guys, how do I have my ubuntu 9.04 pc shutdown after a certain amount of minutes. when i use "sudo shutdown 30", after 30 minutes it doesnt shut down, its like i get logged out and go to this weird almost text only rescue menu. Thanks
[06:31] <Nameless_au> gogeta: k tnx
[06:31] <guillaume> gogeta: and still wondering why compiling on the same arch that target arch optimise better ?
[06:31] <skellingtonx> oh sorry, should have been more specific: how do i make my flash drive bootable in windows xp?
[06:31] <Hilikus> guest, it depends what kind of tables, but mysqldump is preferred
[06:31] <phorensic> Hilikus: permissions.. I believe they are permissions of the symlink or folder in the /var/www folder?? Im not at his computer to see the exact setup
[06:32] <Scunizi> mubu: try sudo shutdown -P 30
[06:32] <gogeta> guillaume: i dunno it just does
[06:32] <Hilikus> phorensic: but the problem is you can get to phpmyadmin or that it won't let you in?
[06:32] <JohnnyZero> skellingtonx set the flag to boot
[06:32] <Hilikus> can't*
[06:32] <JohnnyZero> You can use GPart for that
[06:32] <mubu> scunizi, ill try it out thanks
[06:32] <phorensic> Hilikus: yes, <IP_ADDRESS>/phpmyadmin gives error messages saying permission denied and wrong permissions...
[06:32] <gogeta> guillaume: you can recompile on the same arc on a diffrent pc and get better preforance
[06:32] <Scunizi> mubu: I typically use sudo shutdown -P now when logged in via ssh..
[06:32] <skellingtonx> thanks
[06:33] <dotblank> hey guys... I just found out ubuntu is FREAKING AMAZING. plug and play wicom tablet worked awesome when used with gimp...
[06:33] <Jeruvy> mubu: -P will power it down but the 30 means 30 minutes
[06:33] <Hilikus> phorensic: but is the error from phpmyadmin or apache??
[06:33] <Scunizi> mubu: yep..
[06:33] <guillaume> gogeta: ok, and if it just does, you have some references which can help me in my quest to understand ?
[06:33] <JohnnyZero> skellington: just be careful with G Part though. Make sure you get the right drive.
[06:34] <JohnnyZero> Go to the drop down menu and look to see what your Flash Drive is known as
[06:34] <phorensic> Hilikus: it is for phpmyadmin . i checked the permissions of apache.conf and everything was fine
[06:34] <poomalai> Hi all, I am using linpopup to send messages to windows machines in my network. Sending messages are fine. but i cant receive messages from windows machines. Can anybody helpme?
[06:34] <rleeds> I started using aptitude a while back because I heard it does auto-removal of orphaned dependencies (though I hear apt-get does also now). I was wondering if using the graphical update-manager breaks that functionality for aptitude.?
[06:34] <gogeta> guillaume: thats gentoos entire theme compilig from source on the target pc is better
[06:34] <JohnnyZero> skellingtonx, Because your hard drive also shows up in G Part
[06:34] <Hilikus> phorensic: i don't think reinstalling phpmyadmin will fix it, i might be wrong
[06:35] <Hilikus> phorensic: can you get in using the CLI mysql client?
[06:35] <skellingtonx> ok.
[06:35] <guillaume> gogeta: sources of you assertion ?
[06:36] <dsdeiz> hmm let me see if i got this correctly
[06:36] <phorensic> Hilikus: I imagine I could...I haven't tried yet
[06:36] <gogeta> guillaume: gentoo emerge is just souced compiled for your pc using gcc and emerge
[06:36] <Scunizi> guillaume: I think that gogeta 's statement isn't his assertion but what gentoo followers believe..
[06:36] <dsdeiz> so gtk+ provides the interface? :S
[06:36] <EagleScreen> rleeds, update-manager won't probably autoremove orphaned packages, but you will do it later with aptitude or synaptic
[06:36] <dsdeiz> is qt another alternative to gtk+ ?S
[06:36] <JohnnyZero> sorry skellingtonx its known as GParted
[06:36] <JohnnyZero> Not GPart
[06:36] <Guest41294> тут Русские есть?!
[06:36] <dsdeiz> <--- kinda confused :D
[06:36] <Hilikus> phorensic: try that and maybe try to fix the permissions from there
[06:36] <gogeta> Scunizi: gentoo and slackware both beleve that
[06:37] <dotblank> dsdeiz: qt is a diffreant api for gui stuff. but it is similar to gtk
[06:37] <Hilikus> phorensic: mysql -u root -p
[06:37] <JohnnyZero> dsdeiz: KDE people will tell you to use qt because it works better with KDE
[06:37] <gogeta> Scunizi: hes whats someone to cross compile for g3 and he dont understand it will preform badly better to do it nativly
[06:37] <skellingtonx> JohnnyZero:yeah, i know. i just didnt know they had it for windows. ive used it in ubuntu before.
[06:37] <rleeds> EagleScreen, My question is whether update-manager will mark automatically installed packages in such a way that only aptitude or apt-get will get it or if either one (or synaptic) would be able to autoremove for me.
[06:37] <JohnnyZero> ahh
[06:37] <dsdeiz> oh ok.. on the hand, gtk+ for gnome?
[06:37] <Rat409> !ru | Guest41294
[06:37] <Scunizi> guillaume: gogeta there is some merrit to it.. optimized kernel and programs for your specific system..
[06:37] <rleeds> EagleScreen, I was under the impression apt-get and aptitude had different databases of what is auto-installed
[06:37] <dsdeiz> is there like a lightweight ui? :S
[06:38] <guillaume> Scunizi: gogeta assert that compiling on the same arch as the target arch optimise better, which is (as far as i know) a false assert. Gentoo users think that compiling with specifics optimisations for a specifis arch is faster than a generic build, which can be true
[06:38] <Guest97480> nik
[06:38] <Scunizi> dsdeiz: xfce4 which is what xubuntu is.
[06:38] <dotblank> dsdeiz: There are usually 2 guis that most apps use. all the apps on kubuntu (usually) run qt while the apps on ubuntu (gnome) use gtk
[06:38] <JohnnyZero> skellingtonx, http://www.brunolinux.com/01-First_Things_To_Know/Windows_Tools_-_Gparted.html
[06:38] <JohnnyZero> Theres the version for Windows I believe
[06:38] <dotblank> I think gtk is pretty lightweight
[06:38] <dsdeiz> dotblank: basically, how are they called? just plain "user interfaces"?
[06:39] <gogeta> guillaume: i said cross compling a arc is bad
[06:39] <gogeta> couldent even test the build
[06:39] <Scunizi> guillaume: apples / oranges.. it's an ongoing battle .. and off topic here..
[06:39] <phorensic> Hilikus: well I think the permissions that are wrong are in the /var/www folder and I couldn't find any docs on what they should be set to. I think something like this happened: $var/www: sudo chmod 777 phpmyadmin.. or chmod -Rf 777 phpmyadmin
[06:39] <sagaci> you know how you go into a terminal session using alt+F2 etcetra, can you change the screen resolution to make more stuff fit on the screen
[06:39] <guillaume> gogeta: but why ? I'm unable to understand why it's bad...
[06:39] <gogeta> Scunizi: yea if he whont help himself why bother keep going
[06:40] <gogeta> end
[06:40] <Hilikus> phorensic: you said the problem is not apache and that you can get to the login screen fine
[06:40] <guillaume> Scunizi: it's not off topic if I think that gogeta told false assertions about compilations.
[06:40] <Hilikus> why would the problem be in /var/www then?
[06:40] <gogeta> block
[06:41] <dotblank> dsdeiz: They are 2 different libraries that a program will use to draw gui elements.
[06:41] <phorensic> Hilikus: Hilikuswhen i try to login to phpmyadmin, it gives me the permission error: either world wide permission no supposed to be set or forbidden
[06:41] <JohnnyZero> Well anyways guys what I came here for it doesn't look like anyone can help me with so I'll try to help you guys with other issues.
[06:41] <Scunizi> guillaume: it is because it's not ubuntu specific help.. much easier to go to #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss the specifics
[06:41] <guillaume> Scunizi: ok, no problem for that ;)
[06:41] <Jeruvy> no, I'd concure building is OT here, but tolerated heavily...so if you don't go too far it's ok.
[06:41] <guillaume> gogeta: you come to offtopic ?
[06:41] <dotblank> dsdeiz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B
[06:42] <gogeta> Jeruvy: well i end it when i get ot so i am but yes they do let us  fly off for a bit
[06:42] <oh_noes> does this cron job run at 9pm everyday? 0 21 * * * /bin/foobar
[06:42] <dotblank> JohnnyZero: What was your issue
[06:42] <Jeruvy> gogeta: :) I wouldn't get too pissy about it but now I'm ot :)
[06:43] <gogeta> :)
[06:43] <JohnnyZero> dotblank, my issue was that my cd burner wasn't burning CDs. Everytime I tried and with each program I tried it said it couldn't fixate the disk. Many people in here said my CD Burner is probably broken.
[06:43] <Hilikus> phorensic: only after you enter login/pass in phpmyadmin?
[06:43] <dotblank> JohnnyZero: does it work in windows?
[06:44] <phorensic> Hilikus: no that login doesn't even come up
[06:44] <JohnnyZero> dotblank, I actually haven't tried it in windows
[06:44] <Hilikus> phorensic: so the problem is with the web server, not the database
[06:44] <JohnnyZero> I haven't used it in a long time. I was using Ubuntu for about 1 to 2 years and then randomly decided to try burning CDs and it just wouldn't work.
[06:44] <Scunizi> JohnnyZero: quite possible.. the only other thing to check is to see if the country peramiters have changed for some reason.. That unfortunately I don't know how to do.
[06:44] <dotblank> JohnnyZero: I would try it on a windows box and if it doesn't work.. then I guess the drive would be broken
[06:45] <gogeta> man that guy whont let it go
[06:45] <JohnnyZero> It reads CDs and DVDs but it just doesn't burn them
[06:45] <dotblank> I ussually have no issues at with cd burning
[06:45] <dotblank> all*
[06:45] <Hilikus> check the permissions of everything under /var/www/phpmyadmin
[06:45] <JohnnyZero> dotblank, thats what everyone in here said. Thats why they told me to run hardware tests on the burner somehow.
[06:45] <phorensic> Hilikus: No, the permissions for phpmyadmin and messed up somewhere... do you know what the permissions are supposed to be there?
[06:46] <Hilikus> it should be owned by root and be 644
[06:46] <phorensic> Hilikus: great I will have him try that
[06:46] <dotblank> JohnnyZero: cd burners I believe have 2 different lasers
[06:47] <JohnnyZero> dotblank, well my brother is a tech I think he can check it out. You guys are prob right. It is likely broken.
[06:47] <dotblank> JohnnyZero: try changing the drives position in the IDE controller..
[06:47] <Scunizi> JohnnyZero: replacements are cheep these days.
[06:48] <dotblank> JohnnyZero: Yea burners are very cheap.. I even have a blu ray drive
[06:48] <gbear14275> for those that always wanted to completely obliterate their root dir but couldn't..: http://paste.ubuntu.com/213438/
[06:48] <Jeruvy> dotblank: is there a burner that support BD?
[06:49] <Scunizi> BD?
[06:49] <Jeruvy> Scunizi: Blue-ray Discs
[06:49] <Scunizi> Jeruvy: ah. I was thinking BR
[06:49] <dotblank> Jeruvy: Well im using a CD/DVD burner that has the ability to play BD
[06:50] <Jeruvy> dotblank: I'm only interested in burning...thanks.
[06:50] <dotblank> Jeruvy: Im pretty sure there are several of them
[06:51] <Jeruvy> dotblank: I'll have to test it out, I wasn't aware of any.
[06:51] <Guest97480> Hilikus  Firefox said "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /phpmyadmin/ on this server. when typed into the address line
[06:51] <Polux_> Hi, I have a probleme: I'm unable to open my trash can and all the icons on my desktop disapeared
[06:52] <jared__> Who here has installed sql-server on their ubuntu distro?
[06:52] <jared__> How do I test if it worked properly
[06:52] <dotblank> Polux_: lol I almost thought you said  "real" trashcan
[06:52] <redsoxking> ff is maxing out my cpu any help on how to fix that?
[06:53] <dsdeiz> how do i make xsetbg set the small wallpaper to stretch out?
[06:53] <Hilikus> guest whos the owner and what are the permissions?
[06:53] <Jeruvy> redsoxking: killall firefox
[06:54] <dsdeiz> i used "xsetbg -onroot -fullscreen /path/to/wallpaper" but to no avail.. :(
[06:54] <redsoxking> Jeruvy, whats that, an add on or in the system manager kill all processes with ff
[06:55] <Jeruvy> redsoxking: kills all firefox processes
[06:56] <MontelEdwards> what is the command to extract tar.gz
[06:56] <Hilikus> MontelEdwards: tar -xzvf
[06:56] <MontelEdwards> Hilikus, thanks. Im brain dead today :P
[06:56] <redsoxking> Jeruvy, is that a command promt
[06:57] <Jeruvy> redsoxking: yessir :)
[06:57] <Kirlyin> i have a dual boot computer (win xp and ubuntu), Ubuntu is on a separate drive (USB), however every time i start up the computer GRUB loads in order for me to select the OS i want to use, my question is, if i were to wipe out the ubuntu partition, would it also take out grub?
[06:57] <Hilikus> Kirlyin: i don't think so
[06:57] <Hilikus> Kirlyin: grub is usually not in the ubuntu partition but on the MBR
[06:58] <redsoxking> Jeruvy, thanks, but that will stop the browser to, do the add-ons take up cpu usage?
[06:58] <Kirlyin> on master boot record on my main drive?
[06:58] <Hilikus> yes
[06:58] <S_A> Hi! Is there any GUI app available for ping,traceroot,dnslookup ?
[06:58] <Kirlyin> eewww ouch...ok...so how do i take out grub?
[06:59] <Scunizi> S_A: system>admin>network tools
[06:59] <Hilikus> S_A: network tools
[06:59] <Apollo2366> Hey, I'm trying to open a .swf file in Firefox, but when I do, it just prompts me to open it with Totem, which doesn't play .swf's. What bothers me is that I could do this just fine at one point... And it magically broke itself. Help?
[06:59] <S_A> great man! Thanks
[07:00] <aperson> I've been having problems with synergy and the shared clipboard
[07:00] <Jeruvy> redsoxking: ya everything dies with it
[07:00] <aperson> sometimes when I copy/paste between machines, I get japanese text
[07:00] <badeagle> in ubuntu, how to i prepare to compile for a platform other than my own? (i.e. a64 on my i386)
[07:01] <ganjanaut> has anyone used electricsheep?
[07:01] <Hilikus> ganjanaut:  i have in windows
[07:01] <Apollo2366> ganjanaut, I attempted it at one point, but I could never get it to work
[07:02] <badeagle> ganjanaut: i tried that on vista a month or so ago and it crashed on startup
[07:02] <ganjanaut> i've been trying in ubuntu, but i can't get it to work
[07:03] <aperson> ganjanaut, how is it failing?
[07:04] <dsdeiz> anyone using xsetbg?
[07:05] <oyenk> anyone can give mu suggest with thizz.Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-network (>= 4.5.0~+rc1)
[07:05] <shay27m> Hello , does anyone knows where mozilla firefox save cookies ?
[07:05] <Scunizi> shay27m: do you want to delete them?
[07:05] <aperson> shay27m, in your profile folder ~/.mozilla/firefox
[07:05] <shay27m> aperson: thanks
[07:06] <jumentous> hi, there is a program/script in apt that generates metapackages based on giving it a list of dependencies - does anyone know what its called
[07:06] <jumentous> ?
[07:06] <aperson> shay27m, though you'll have to find them in a sub folder there, if you just want to delete them, firefox can do that itself
[07:06] <dsdeiz> who's using xsetbg here?
[07:06] <Apollo2366> Anyone know why Firefox would refuse to open .swf files?
[07:07] <CorpX>  does ultamatix work on the latest ubuntu?
[07:08] <badeagle> Apollo2366, which flash player package did you install?
[07:08] <oyenk> why..sometimes when i update my pacckage...there`s error  GPG error: http://dl2.foss-id.web.id intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:08] <Apollo2366> badeagle, h/o
[07:08] <badeagle> Apollo2366: what's 'h/o' ?
[07:09] <dsdeiz> who's using xsetbg here?
[07:09] <wapko> im having problems with ff3.5/shiretoko. it has no clue what to do with filetypes. i cant even rightclick a download and open containing folder. and if i tell it to use nautilus for folders. it uses nautilus for everything
[07:10] <Apollo2366> badeagle, means "hold on" I installed ver 10.22.87-1 from the intrepid repos. Thing is though, Firefox was working perfectly with .swf's until recently.
[07:11] <madsj> hasn't firefox been upgraded to 3.5 in ubuntu ? "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" doesn't find any new firefox
[07:11] <aperson> madsj, it hasn't yet
[07:11] <wapko> madsj: its called fireforx-3.5 just apt-get that
[07:12] <dsdeiz> who's using xsetbg here?
[07:12] <badeagle> Apollo2366: you're using firefox 3.0 and intrepid still?
[07:12] <wapko> madsj: firefox-3.5 not fireforx :P
[07:12] <madsj> wapko: ok; it's not that important; I was just wondering why it wasn't updated
[07:13] <Apollo2366> badeagle, I've been meaning to upgrade, but I'm lazy.
[07:13] <JabberWalkie> is there a program that will tell me how frequently I use various programs?
[07:13] <badeagle> Apollo2366: only reason i can think of is some non-backwards-compatible update broke it.
[07:14] <Apollo2366> badeagle, any way I can see recent updates and maybe roll them back?
[07:15] <badeagle> i dunno, anyone else know the answer to that question?
[07:15] <administrator__> hi anybody know how to do wireless PXE over n/w
[07:16] <grendal_prime> ok whats the trick in gnome to make gmplayer the default dvd player?
[07:16] <linux> i downloader and ran this ati-driver-installer-9-6-x86.x86_64.run for my ATI Xpress 1100 card on my laptop it seemed to work OK but how will i know?  If i try aticonfig i have display problems
[07:17] <grendal_prime> i right click on the dvd icon but there is no "open with" dialog option. I removed totem (wtf? no dvdnav capabilites?)
[07:17] <administrator__> has anyone installed pxe over wireless networks
[07:17] <grendal_prime> Im trying to set this laptop up for my motherinlaw.  But i need the dvd to work really easy.
[07:17] <Chris8> hey room help pls -- trying to install MadWifi but getting weird errors during <make> in terminal...
[07:18] <grendal_prime> like drop it in, it fires up.  but that is not happeing.
[07:18] <administrator__> has anyone installed Ubuntu over wireless networks
[07:18] <grendal_prime> i dont see a place..prefered apps..is not working for me ither.
[07:18] <grendal_prime> administrator__:  i would not do that
[07:19] <Chris8> http://pastebin.ca/1489307
[07:19] <grendal_prime> its porbably possible...but i mean com on..plug the bitch into the wall for the install...save a few thousand possible things that could go wrong.
[07:20]  * badeagle likes grendal_prime's language. :D
[07:20] <madsj> how do I see the description of a package using aptitude ?
[07:20] <grendal_prime> people...i need the scoop on gnome and changeing the default dvd player....this is a MOTHER IN LAW issue.!!!
[07:20] <grendal_prime> I dont know gnome
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: do you mean the dvd playing app?
[07:21] <administrator__> why so
[07:21] <grendal_prime> the "Prime" is not in the know on the gnome.
[07:21] <badeagle> administrator__: i have definately felt the hurt trying to upgrade over wireless, wound up burning a disc a friends house and reinstalling.
[07:21] <dsdeiz> madsj: aptitude search <package> ?
[07:21] <Chris8> help installing MadWifi?   errors are returned in terminal <make> command... posted http://pastebin.ca/1489307
[07:21] <grendal_prime> administrator__:  your joking right?  everyone tell me he is joking.  Ive not had enough alcohol for him not to be jokeing.
[07:21] <administrator__> what would be ideal
[07:21] <madsj> dsdeiz: thanks :-)
[07:22] <dsdeiz> who's using here xsetbg? :D
[07:22] <grendal_prime> plug it into the wall with a dsl box between it and the wall.
[07:22] <madsj> dsdeiz: just post your question!
[07:22] <dsdeiz> i'm using xsetbg to set the background image although it doesn't stretch if the image is not of the same width and height as my screen resolution :(
[07:22] <dsdeiz> i used xsetbg -onroot -fullscreen /path/to/wallpaper
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: do you mean the dvd playing app?
[07:23] <grendal_prime> there is is straight up vodoo that goes on with wireless connections.  administrator__...just plug it into the wall tell its up and working with a desktop.  Then you can start shaking a dead bloody chicken over the thing and its wireless card.
[07:24] <Chris8> do i need a dead chicken to install MadWifi?
[07:24] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip: ya. totem blows...and sucks(at the same time even)  Blucks...if you need a word for it.
[07:24] <badeagle> grendal_prime: something to do with mime types in .desktop files is my guess
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333714
[07:25] <grendal_prime> Chris8: it never hurts to have a dead chicken around...especially when there is going to be voodoo involved.
[07:25] <grendal_prime> wait..
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: if you want help, you need to reply to questions to get further info
[07:25] <grendal_prime> make sure its a fresh dead chicken.
[07:25] <bazhang> !ot > grendal_prime
[07:25] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip: sorry.
[07:26] <Chris8> <mental note -- one dead chicken>
[07:26] <grendal_prime> never hurts..
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: no worries duder
[07:26] <Apollo2366> Fixed the Firefox thing, Problem and solution: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/42967 I should've Googled first
[07:27] <administrator__> it hurts
[07:27]  * ActionParsnip preys to the VM gods
[07:27] <grendal_prime> ok... ActionParsnip here is the situation..
[07:27] <Chris8> http://pastebin.ca/1489307  What should i do?!?!?@BBQ
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: yeah, its in gconf-editor, its laid out there
[07:27] <CatEater> i'm trying to install 9.04 but the screen is too big and i have to keep scrolling
[07:27] <CatEater> can i turn the screen size down?
[07:28] <grendal_prime> by the way ActionParsnip im a vcp (taking test this quarter)  soooo if you need help with vm issues...ill be your beotch if you can help me out with this simple little...well dvd issue
[07:28] <badeagle> gconf-editor = pot of gold
[07:28] <grendal_prime> gconf-editor? never seen this magic-ness...
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: i have a team if i can't get them up
[07:28] <oyenk> why i cant install virtual box..there`s always error i get
[07:29] <Scunizi> oyenk: is it the download from teh vbox site?
[07:29] <Nevak> Can anyone direct me to a page that tells me an exact way of getting LotRO working in Ubuntu? I've been searching for a while, but I haven't come up with any good results.
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: do you know a way to sequentially boot guests on a host, at present we reboot all and they don't always come up
[07:29] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip: personally...vbox is faster..but you cant beat virtualcenter with a shotgun.
[07:29] <oyenk> yes..
[07:29] <administrator__> challenge to Ubuntu
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: this is a company's VMs, not just for laughs
[07:29] <madsj> dsdeiz: have you tried "-full" ?
[07:29] <Scunizi> oyenk: sudo apt-get install build-essential might help
[07:29] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip: on vmware?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: 8 CPU cores + 16b ram + RHL host + 10 Win2K3 Citrix guests
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: x 15 hosts x 6 domains
[07:30] <administrator__> any one who can help with wireless pxe
[07:31] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip: but whats the vm beast at the base of it.  man we run 3 sun's 32 procs a piece. fat beast.
[07:31] <oyenk> scunizi : i stIll get error build-essential: Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.3.1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:31] <dsdeiz> madsj: i'm not quite sure if there's a -full option. i only see -fullscreen
[07:31] <administrator__> can any one help on wireless installations over network
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: RedHat host + silly ram + SAN
[07:31] <Scunizi> oyenk: this is after installing build-essential?
[07:31] <oyenk> yes
[07:31] <jmoncayo> hey guys could someone please help me with an iptbles script? http://pastebin.ca/1489314 i can comunicate from lan to internet, dmz to internet, but i cant lan to dmz
[07:32] <grendal_prime> whats the san?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: is there a way to sequentially reboot them by the host?
[07:32] <CatEater> anyone know if vbox can scale the display? this installer for ubuntu is REALLY HUGE
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: storage attatched network
[07:32] <Scunizi> oyenk: open synaptic package manager and search for g++ see what it finds
[07:32] <grendal_prime> also...i still don understand if its vmware or "other" vm solution.
[07:32] <oyenk> ok...waid
[07:32] <administrator__> PXE
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: gives us about 200Tb of space to play with
[07:33] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip: i know what a san is.  but who makes it...we use netapps....
[07:33] <administrator__> Ubuntu PXE wireless networks
[07:33] <Chris8> help... installing... Madwifi... getting errors after <make> function in terminal... posted http://pastebin.ca/1489307
[07:33] <bazhang> administrator__, dont repeat
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: i think its 1vault
[07:33] <administrator__> i didn't get the answer
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: i don't have much to do with it really
[07:33] <Dreki> does anyone have experance with ATI drivers? my friend downloaded ubuntu 9.04 64bit and tried to install the ATI proprietary drivers and now his system boots to a terminal
[07:34] <grendal_prime> hmm.... i was just currios, ya thats not going to have anything to do with your issue.
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: wifi pxe is a pain unless your device works out of the box
[07:34] <bazhang> administrator__, repeating every ten seconds wont get you an answer faster. every 20-30 minutes will do
[07:34] <oyenk> i find g++:
[07:34] <oyenk>  Depends: g++-4.3 but it is not going to be installed
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> oyenk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:34] <linux> how do i test my graphics card  to see if it is working properly?
[07:34] <oyenk> i have done it
[07:34] <Scunizi> oyenk: you're going to get LOTS of hits.. instead look on vbox's site and list their repo in synaptic.. then refresh.. then search for virtualbox and the version you want.. there may be several listed..
[07:34] <CorpX> play some porn
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> oyenk: then you hav g++
[07:35] <oyenk> sget error build-essential: Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.3.1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:35] <madsj> dsdeiz: http://rpiscrews.us/dept/acm/packages1/openbox/tmp/openbox-2.1.3-sgi/util/bsetbg
[07:35] <grendal_prime> is it an actual "VMWARE" HOST though is what im driving at.  or are you usine like suns version of virtualbox. or osx of virtual box...or...qemu...or...hell, ms vitual for that matter?
[07:35] <Dreki> does anyone have experance with ATI drivers? my friend downloaded ubuntu 9.04 64bit and tried to install the ATI proprietary drivers and now his system boots to a terminal
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> oyenk: sounds like you have some serious dependancy issues, are you running jaunty?
[07:35] <bazhang> CorpX, stay on topic
[07:35] <CorpX> damn
[07:35] <badeagle> Chris8: your linux kernel up to date?
[07:35] <oyenk> ya
[07:35] <CorpX> did i get kicked
[07:35] <grendal_prime> and let me get this straight you need the boxes to fire up in a certain order?
[07:36] <iMatter> Excuse me how would i go about with my Home on a Partition to its own?
[07:36] <Scunizi> oyenk: they have a repo for most ubuntu releases
[07:36] <grendal_prime> cause that would be possible with vmware if you are running virtual center.
[07:36] <bazhang> !home
[07:36] <iMatter> im installing the newest official OS and i want to do the separate home thing
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: no we just have a theory that rebooting 10 guests at the same time kinda hammers the system a bit, so we want to stagger the reboots
[07:37] <oyenk> what must i done
[07:37] <Scunizi> oyenk: are you on Jaunty 9.04?
[07:37] <badeagle> Chris8: try "sudo aptitude install linux-headers" then make again
[07:37] <grendal_prime> ya but...dude...again..are you running "vmware" or...other
[07:37] <administrator__> i 'm new to this
[07:37] <Chris8> Desktop/madwifi-0.9.4/net80211/ieee80211_power.c:240: error: implicit declaration of function '__skb_append'
[07:37] <oyenk> yes
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> iMatter: copy the data to the other partition then add a line to /etc/fstab to do the mounting
[07:37] <Travis-42> I have a file full of mixed ascii and octal values.  Is there any way to convert just the octal values?
[07:37] <Chris8> BadEagle: sorry was AFK
[07:38] <Chris8> Beagle: trying the install
[07:38] <badeagle> Repeat question, go AFK, come back repeat question, go afk again, put gun in mouth, pull trigger.
[07:38] <Scunizi> oyenk: go to the download page and below the file listing for the .deb files is the repo lists and the how to.. also #vbox
[07:39] <Dreki> does anyone have experance with ATI drivers? my friend downloaded ubuntu 9.04 64bit and tried to install the ATI proprietary drivers and now his system boots to a terminal
[07:39] <Arv3n> badeagle, wat is probem???
[07:39] <Slart> Travis-42: what kind of file is it?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: few wifi adapters will work without a lot of work (I personally buy only the ones that do) so if you PXE boot the wifi may not be usable due to drivers etc
[07:39] <dsdeiz> madsj: uhm, i'm kinda confused.. what's that about? :S
[07:39] <Travis-42> ah, never mind, I found a way
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: depends which ATi card, if its older then the open driver can be better
[07:39] <Scunizi> Dreki: not all ati cards work with the new Xorg system.. the latest drivers have eliminated some of the older cards.. thanks ATI!
[07:39] <phase_shift314> whats the best motherboard to run ubuntu on? any suggestions?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: if you boot to recovery mode you can select fix graphics to get your x server back
[07:39] <Djoef> Hi, suddenly when i plugin my external hard drive, it doesnt mount automatically anymore, I hear it start, but it doesnt mount, on other pc's it still does, any idea what i can do about that ?
[07:40] <Slart> !hardware | phase_shift314
[07:40] <administrator__> what 's the solution like
[07:40] <badeagle> Arv3n, i don't know.
[07:40] <CatEater> why does the ubuntu installer think it's 9 hours ago?
[07:40] <Arv3n> badeagle, why don't you know?
[07:40] <badeagle> Arv3n: i didn't know there was one.
[07:40] <ubuntu> im scared to do the actual install
[07:40] <ubuntu> 9.04 just randomly restarted X
[07:40] <ubuntu> (the live CD)
[07:41] <Dreki> saphira 4850 1gig
[07:41] <Slart> phase_shift314: I don't think there is *one* model that is better than the rest.. there are hardware compatibility lists to look at.. and you could go to a store and ask them to put an ubuntu live cd into a machine with the motherboard you want to try
[07:41] <Arv3n> is anyone running team fortress 2 on wine?
[07:41] <administrator__> my boss demands wifi pxe in one hour
[07:41] <Chris8> BadEagle: no updates with headers... tried <make> again; errors posted http://pastebin.ca/1489318
[07:41] <grendal_prime> i dont see this gconf-editor anywhere (even though  it looks as though it is installed
[07:41] <grendal_prime> )
[07:42] <Arv3n> grendal_prime, hidden automatically methinks
[07:42] <badeagle> Chris8: is there a configure script? ./configure
[07:42] <Slart> grendal_prime: run gocnf-editor from a terminal
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: use wired is easier, new wifi adapter that works out of the box, or stuggle setting up the wifi in terminal (if you are unfamiliar) to get it working
[07:42] <CatEater> why does the ubuntu installer show a time exactly 9 hours ago?
[07:42] <Arv3n> grendal_prime, or press alt + f2 and type in gconf-editor
[07:42] <Dreki> ActionParsnip Scunizi ActionParsnip 2 saphira 4850 1gig cards
[07:42] <Arv3n> CatEater, what does your time say in the top right panel?
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: will you also ta complete my name at the start of lines so I know you are addressing me
[07:42] <administrator__> i have a wireless network
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: huh?
[07:42] <phase_shift314> thanks for the info everyone
[07:42] <CatEater> it says "Prepare disk space", since i'm past that step already
[07:42] <grendal_prime> ya gconf-editor does nothing..i already tried that
[07:43] <grendal_prime> not from a term anyway
[07:43] <administrator__> earlier installed each seperately
[07:43] <badeagle> Chris8: if you toss me a link to the source archive i'll poke at it, see what i can find out
[07:43] <Arv3n> grendal_prime, when you run it in a terminal whats it say?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: you can have 40 wireless networks, if the device isnt working you can't connect to anything can you
[07:43] <Arv3n> command not found?
[07:43] <administrator__> ok
[07:43] <grendal_prime> wow werid...now it worked
[07:43] <grendal_prime> well the tab complete was not finding it
[07:43] <grendal_prime> for watever reason....bizzar.
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: theres roads all over the place, if you havent got a car they are useless arent they
[07:43] <administrator__> ActionParsnip _: quite right
[07:44] <Chris8> BadEagle: no config dir... there's a scripts dir but only a .sh a .mk and two .bash
[07:44] <badeagle> ActionParsnip: i ride a bicycle, on roads, daily.
[07:44] <Scunizi> anyone know how to close a running vbox guest while logged into the host via ssh?
[07:44] <madsj> dsdeiz: the script seems to be a wrapper for xsetbg; so for -full,
[07:44] <Dreki> ActionParsnip 2 saphira 4850 1gig cards u said it depends on the card
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: so if your wireless network adapter is not automagically configured you will need to get it setup before you can pxe boot
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: check the hcl
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[07:45] <grendal_prime> hmm this looks like a windows registry editor of some sort...kinda kreepy...
[07:45] <jerroome> hello, I've trouble with some network configuration, I always get the same error while trying to set up the network, the error message is : SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device Failed to bring up eth0. I changed the network card, but the error is the same. lspci shows me Realtek Semiconductor RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ as Ethernet controller.
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: that will tell you but judging by the age I'd say the proprietary is for you
[07:45] <madsj> dsdeiz: -tile ?
[07:46] <doktoreas> anyone can suggest a working client for twitter?
[07:46] <Dreki> ActionParsnip how do i boot to recovery mode and restore graphics like u said?
[07:46] <defrysk> doktoreas, gwibber
[07:46] <administrator__> ActionParsnip: I see only RealTeK in PXE in bios
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: esc when grub loads
[07:47] <grendal_prime> ya wow...this sure looks like a windows regeditor for...gnome.
[07:47] <doktoreas> thx defrysk..I'll check it out
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: boot to live cd and run: sudo lshw -C network
[07:47] <grendal_prime> im not feeling the love with this sort of crap.
[07:47] <Chris8> BadEagle: please help me BadEagle-Obi... you are my only hope
[07:47] <grendal_prime> i use this to set the default dvd player app?
[07:47] <defrysk> doktoreas, there is also mitter, but its not supported by ubuntu and you'll have to google for it
[07:48] <linux> Dreki i had to reboot and press Esc after the bios load that gave me a menu of options
[07:48] <grendal_prime> im staring to feel like it would be more fun shoveing butter knives into power sockets here.
[07:48] <badeagle> Chris8: try "sudo aptitude install wireless-tools", see if that installs anything
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: i don't use gnome or autoplay so I am unsure of setting dvd autoplay
[07:48] <administrator__> ActionParsnip: that would only show in terminal
[07:48] <doktoreas> defrysk: is it working for you?
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: yes
[07:48] <doktoreas> I have got connection problem
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: but you'd know what you had
[07:49] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip: i iuse vlc, but its a bit persnikity about certain things.
[07:49] <administrator__> ActionParsnip : Can i see in bios
[07:49] <Hilikus> how do i get ahold of this?
[07:49] <Hilikus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/liblastfm/0.3.0-0ubuntu1
[07:49] <Chris8> BadEagle: 0 upgrade 0 install :S
[07:49] <grendal_prime> hmmm tryining to make it ...simple.
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770970
[07:49] <defrysk> doktoreas, I use gwibber, but i also tried and used mitter , gwibber is more polished imo
[07:49] <Hilikus> do i need to enable the karmic source repos?
[07:49] <doktoreas> defrysk: right now for you is fine?
[07:50] <defrysk> gwibber is fine
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | Hilikus
[07:50] <doktoreas> connection failed to me
[07:50] <aperson> how do I disable changing desktops by scrolling on the desktop
[07:50] <c0mp13371331337> defrysk: Have you found a way to get gwibber to display a bit more of a history?
[07:50] <defrysk> c0mp13371331337, nope unfortunately
[07:51] <defrysk> c0mp13371331337, one of the things mitter does better
[07:51] <administrator__> ActionParsnip_:  How to see my Wireless adapter in the bios
[07:51] <c0mp13371331337> defrysk: That's sad, it's an otherwise perfect app, IMHO.
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: if its onboard it won't say what it is i bios. It will simply be known as "wifi"
[07:51] <aperson> I have compizconfig-settings-manager, but I can't remember what setting it is
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> aperson: search for 'wall'
[07:52] <administrator__> ActionParsnip_: its pci
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> aperson: i believe its something like that
[07:52] <Rat409> administrator__: the driver,firmware depend on chipset not the model as it can vary
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: then the bios doesnt know
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> aperson: or ask in #compiz
[07:52] <doktoreas> defrysk: my fault now is ok
[07:52] <doktoreas> thx
[07:53] <administrator__> ActionParsnip_: then should bios be upgraded
[07:54] <AlexKpow> Why isn't Firefox updating to 3.5 for me? (Jaunty)
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: no because the bios only gets the pci bus started, the devices therin re known after that so the basic bios you setup will never know
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> !ff3.5 > AlexKpow
[07:54] <badeagle> Chris8: i've got it and i'm getting the same error, gimme a while to work with it.
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: the only way it could is if it loaded and scanned the pci bus when you went into setup
[07:55] <administrator__> ActionParsnip_: can i conclude that my bios doesn't support wireless pxe
[07:55] <lufis> My friend has an internal hard drive that has a partition he created post-install. Ubuntu mounts it, but it's mounted automatically as ro (or something similar -- he can't write to it, "access denied".) Any ideas?
[07:55] <AlexKpow> Okay, so I just install 3.5 via apt-get then?
[07:56] <Chris8> BadEagle TY TY TY
[07:56] <AlexKpow> Pardon my French, but that's stupid
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: it may do, depends on the motherboard, it may only support wired pxe. it may have extra functionality to scan the pci bus for network adapters
[07:56] <lufis> AlexKpow: C'est stupid?
[07:56] <mase_work> AlexKpow: what is stupid
[07:56] <administrator__> ActionParsnip_: how to make it scan
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> AlexKpow: its not at all, the repo manages are testing it for compatibility. it wil then come down as a normal update
[07:57] <AmoTierno> Hola buenos días
[07:57] <AmoTierno> Alguien me puede echar una manita??
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> AlexKpow: i'm sure your 3.0.1 is running fine, you won't die if you don't get it. it will come soon
[07:57] <Rat409> !es | AmoTierno
[07:57] <AlexKpow> So it will be a normal update when the next version comes out ? :-p
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> AlexKpow: i believe it wil be a normal update in jaunty
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> AlexKpow: i could be wrong
[07:58] <c0l2e> what else application that has gui for saned in ubuntu... other than xsane
[07:58] <AlexKpow> ActionParsnip: It would make sense for it to be
[07:58] <mase_work> AlexKpow: you can always download and install it yourself if you can't wait
[07:58] <Flannel> ActionParsnip, AlexKpow: 3.5 is in the repos, firefox-3.5 is the package.
[07:58] <yvonne> hello everyone
[07:58] <Flannel> mase_work: ^^
[07:58] <forbidden> who are you
[07:58] <forbidden> ?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> AlexKpow: there you go, flannel has given the answer
[07:59] <Flannel> AlexKpow: It's a separate package, firefox 3.0 won't upgrade to 3.5 automatically in Jaunty
[07:59] <mase_work> Flannel: k.
[07:59] <AlexKpow> You have to install it as Shiretoko
[07:59] <guntbert> !welcome | forbidden
[07:59] <linux> does shadow store login password?
[07:59] <forbidden> Anyone know how to use gtkterminal?
[07:59] <Flannel> AlexKpow: firefox-3.5 is the package, and it installs firefox 3.5
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> linux: yes but encrypted
[07:59] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: hashed, not encrypted
[08:00] <forbidden> prob both
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: well its not plain text, so its kinda encrypted ;)
[08:00] <administrator__> ActionParsnip: I have G31 INTEL BOARD 945 CHIPSET
[08:00] <linux> ActionParsnip thanks i thought so
[08:00] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: no, encryption is reversible
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: go see if it will do it
[08:00] <AlexKpow> Look at add/remove, and search for 3.5. It shows that 3.5 is still in beta
[08:00] <forbidden> depends
[08:00] <Flannel> !info firefox-3.5 | AlexKpow
[08:01] <forbidden> just use john
[08:01] <forbidden> if ya know how
[08:01] <administrator__> ActionParsnip_:  scan funtion is not there
[08:01] <Flannel> AlexKpow: It's final.  Do you have jaunty-updates and/or jaunty-security enabled?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: the text is not immediately readable, and what is read is not the actual password so some kind of data transformation must have occurred, which is a form of encryption
[08:01] <grendal_prime> ya that didnt work very well
[08:01] <guntbert> !who | forbidden
[08:01] <forbidden> anyway.. anyone know what the best way to connect to cisco term port is?
[08:01] <kklimonda> can ubiquity test a new disk before installing a system?
[08:01] <AlexKpow> I have updates enabled
[08:01] <forbidden> anyway.. anyone know what the best way to connect to cisco term port is?
[08:02] <forbidden> in ubuntu?
[08:02] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: #ubuntu-offtopic for further discussion, but no. encryption is reversible.  What is stored is a hash, which is not reversible.
[08:02] <grendal_prime> basically,  it fires up vlc alright...but with some bad codec, and it doesnt play the vid. If i start up vlc first and browse to the dvd it works fine.
[08:02] <grendal_prime> grrrrrrrrr i dont see why this would be this difficult.
[08:02] <forbidden> anyway.. anyone know what the best way to connect to cisco term port is in ubuntu?
[08:02] <forbidden> anyway.. anyone know what the best way to connect to cisco term port is in ubuntu?
[08:02] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: then you'll get 3.5 final, if you'd like to double check, sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy firefox-3.5 (pastebin the output)
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: log a bug
[08:02] <guntbert> !repeat | forbidden
[08:02] <grendal_prime> ?
[08:03] <forbidden> anyway.. anyone know what the best way to connect to cisco term port is in ubuntu?
[08:03] <linux> ActionParsnip i just asking in case i ever forgot password maybe i can backup shadow and reinstall another
[08:03] <forbidden> anyway.. anyone know what the best way to connect to cisco term port is in ubuntu?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: my 3.0.11 works fine, it aint broke so I ain't fixing it :)
[08:03] <forbidden> anyway.. anyone know what the best way to connect to cisco term port is in ubuntu?
[08:03] <grendal_prime> forbidden..you got screen installed?
[08:03] <Flannel> linux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[08:03] <forbidden> no
[08:03] <Flannel> linux: That'll allow you to set a new password
[08:03] <forbidden> whats screen?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> forbidden: ssh or the rollover cable
[08:03] <grendal_prime> you have a serial cable connected to the cisco equipment right?
[08:03] <Flannel> AlexKpow:: then you'll get 3.5 final, if you'd like to double check, sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy firefox-3.5 (pastebin the output)
[08:04] <linux> Flannel im looking
[08:04] <forbidden> of course I just need to install the corect term
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> forbidden: it will be telnet
[08:04] <Guest83294> is anyone here running a bunch of desktops with NFS mounted home directories ?
[08:04] <forbidden> without knowing the ip
[08:04] <forbidden> ?
[08:04] <grendal_prime> forbidden:         screen -r [[pid.]tty[.host]]
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest83294: i use samba shares but same kinda deal
[08:05] <forbidden> is there a protocol term in ubuntu?
[08:05] <Guest83294> ActionParsnip : Samba shares for /home ??
[08:05] <Guest83294> mounted by fstab ?
[08:05] <codered1444> can someone help me with my prob
[08:05] <grendal_prime> i think screen is installed by default..man screen.
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest83294: yeah, using smbmount
[08:05] <forbidden> it is installed
[08:05] <Guest83294> huh ok... why SMB over NFS ?
[08:05] <grendal_prime> i have not found a piece of equipment i couldnt connect to with screen
[08:06] <quibbler> !ask | codered1444
[08:06] <Chris8> BadEagle: I love you
[08:06] <forbidden> I have 9.10
[08:06] <linux> Flannel that helps ty
[08:06] <grendal_prime> and its nice to have on a server so you can split out what your doing all in one ssh connection.
[08:06] <administrator__> ActionParsnip_: how is 9.04
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> administrator__: fine
[08:07] <codered1444> my torrents speeds were really high in windows but when i made the switch ithey are horrible
[08:07] <codered1444> *horrible
[08:07] <grendal_prime> forbidden: i have 8.04.  it shouldnt matter.  ( i know how to fly a plane as well still shouldnt be a factor.)
[08:07] <forbidden> No.. you can't activate a admin user
[08:07] <administrator__> ActionParsnip_: any issues wireless
[08:07] <forbidden> in 9.04
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest83294: so my girlfriend can access the share from her win lappy
[08:07] <ubuntu> Excuse me
[08:07] <ubuntu> jaunty live cd
[08:07] <codered1444> i tried different clients but no success
[08:07] <grendal_prime> ActionParsnip: use a cifs server for that if you can.
[08:07] <ubuntu> just stopped working with my external monitor and my laptops monitor is broken so i have this window all the way at the left side of screen barley can see anything
[08:07] <ubuntu> tryng to figure out how i can fix this
[08:07] <Guest83294> ActionParsnip : ahh ok.. so its only a few PC's ... sorry I meant more like an office of desktops ( 20 odd boxes ) with NFS mounted homes ..
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: its been running without reboot for 3 years, its not getting touched by anyone
[08:08] <forbidden> anyway.. anyone know what the best way to connect to cisco term port is in ubuntu?
[08:08] <Severity1> codered1444, have you tried transmission?
[08:08] <grendal_prime> hehehe...ok
[08:08] <grendal_prime> cant argue that
[08:08] <codered1444> yeah that was first
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: gentoo fileserver ftw :)
[08:08] <ubuntu> So excuse me if i  say stuff repeatedly or anything
[08:09] <codered1444> i test it by d/l something with alot of seeds
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest83294: yeah like 2 systems
[08:09] <ubuntu> can only see about 4-5 words on this section of working screen
[08:09] <Severity1> codered if you want a windows torrent client youcan download wine then installutorrent or bittorent
[08:09] <KB1JWQ> forbidden: minicom
[08:09] <grendal_prime> ya, im a huge debian fan myself, the only thing i didnt like about gentoo is that it literally took me a week to compile a desktop on it.
[08:09] <Severity1> codered1444,  if you want a windows torrent client youcan download wine then installutorrent or bittorent
[08:09] <indus> !bittorrent
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> grendal_prime: took me a while as its an old pc but its in now and i never have to touch it, doesnt even have web access
[08:10] <grendal_prime> severity wine? whats wrong with a virtual box?
[08:10] <codered1444> tried that with utorrent but it doesnt open a message pops up saying utorrent is already running close that first
[08:10] <Severity1> grendal_prime, codered1444 or that
[08:10] <forbidden> Does anyone here work with cisco?
[08:10] <grendal_prime> i do
[08:10] <grendal_prime> on ocation.
[08:10] <Severity1> personally i use vbox
[08:11] <grendal_prime> ya
[08:11] <forbidden> what works best with a console to configure in ubuntu?
[08:11] <grendal_prime> virtualbox.  Oracle owns it now.
[08:11] <grendal_prime> forbidden: screen
[08:11] <forbidden> screen is just profile
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> wine as you still need windows bloating your ram, plus some apps run awesome in wine
[08:11] <grendal_prime> at a terminal type      man screen
[08:12] <forbidden> tyoing
[08:12] <codered1444> *sorry it says its running but not responding
[08:12] <Spirits-Sight> how can I uninstall asterisk completly?
[08:12] <forbidden> typing
[08:12] <Apollo2366> !away
[08:12] <grendal_prime> read the results of that. it will explain how to connect to anything on the planet. (and reachable crap in space as well)
[08:13] <indus> grendal_prime: its true,space has lot of crap now
[08:13] <grendal_prime> jesus i love "bot opinions"
[08:13] <ubuntu> Hello, anyone im under my desk in a cramped area with full blown fan heat on me trying not to hit my head because my monitor stopped working ._.
[08:14] <badeagle> Chris8: http://paste.ubuntu.com/213467/
[08:14] <grendal_prime> Screen is a full-screen window manager that multiplexes a physical ter‐
[08:14] <grendal_prime>        minal between several processes (typically interactive  shells).
[08:14] <Chris8> BadEagle: you're loverly
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: have you tried the fix graphics option in the grub menu?
[08:15] <badeagle> Chris8: once you have it built, then what will you do with it?
[08:15] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: im in a live cd in the middle of copying and editing partitions
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: i see
[08:15] <forbidden> Is it through IP?
[08:15] <Mayfair2005> can some one help, my laptop froze while upgrading to 9.04
[08:16] <ubuntu> sorry for being so stressed but this is not the most comfortablest place to be
[08:16] <forbidden> grendal Is it through IP?
[08:16] <codered1444> well i tried using deluge and ktorrent but when i start the torrent the speeds are really high but go back down within a matter of seconds
[08:16] <grendal_prime> or com.
[08:16] <grendal_prime> do you need to connect via an ip address?
[08:16] <Spirits-Sight> Does any one know the cmd to use to uninstall asterisk completly?
[08:17] <grendal_prime> the cisco device has an ssh or telnet server on it?
[08:17] <ubuntu> ActionParsnip: So yea, monitor says nothings there to connect to...basically...
[08:17] <badeagle> Haha! Computer Janitor recommends remove the app I made. :P
[08:17] <forbidden> No..trying to connect through term console only
[08:17] <ubuntu> i giove up...im rebooting..
[08:17] <forbidden> yea
[08:17] <ubuntu> hopefulyl i don't damage anything
[08:17] <ubuntu> LS
[08:17] <ubuntu> :S
[08:17] <iceroot> Spirits-Sight: sudo apt-get purge programname-you-want-to-remove
[08:17] <grendal_prime> telnet?
[08:17] <forbidden> I don't want to ssh yet
[08:17]  * ober hunts for makeinfo.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: s/pure/--purge
[08:18] <forbidden> thats after I connect through the console first
[08:18] <kingsofleon> does anyone here know anything about zcat?
[08:18] <forbidden> telnet is not an option..have to have ip
[08:18] <kingsofleon> it seems to hang for ages
[08:18] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: yeah, thx
[08:18] <codered1444> well i tried using deluge and ktorrent but when i start the torrent the speeds are really high but go back down within a matter of seconds can i remove iptables or something
[08:18] <jerroome> kingsofleon man zcat
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> forbidden: the default config for cisco is telnet enabled
[08:18] <iceroot> Spirits-Sight: sudo apt-get --purge programname
[08:19] <forbidden> without ip
[08:19] <Flannel> ActionParsnip, iceroot: purge is an actual command now (as of 8.04), or it's remove --purge
[08:19] <jerroome> kingsofleon : isn't there a verbose mode ?
[08:19] <Chris8> BadEagle: make, then make install?
[08:19] <forbidden> trying to find term
[08:19] <Spirits-Sight> this iceroot
[08:19] <grendal_prime> ok forbidden you ither have a serial cable pluged into the thing...or its on the same network.  or your using something from startrek (in wich case you need a tackeon translator and those have not been invented yet)
[08:19] <Mayfair2005> can some one help, my laptop froze while upgrading to 9.04 please
[08:19] <kingsofleon> jerroome: yeah thats the problem, I'm using -v and it's not giving any output, just hanging
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> forbidden: the default is dhcp on all active ports
[08:19] <kingsofleon> i got it working before but this time it's just taking ages and hanging
[08:19] <badeagle> Chris8: lol, i hope for your sake that is all you must do
[08:19] <kingsofleon> (trying to move a .gz image onto a usb stick)
[08:19] <CorpX> what port does ubuntu remote desktop use by default
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> forbidden: you will need to use the rollove cable at the system to setup some basic stuffs then you canconnct via telnet / ssh / web
[08:20] <forbidden> Don't make me say it
[08:20] <badeagle> Chris8: i don't jack about kernels and modules and junk, but i can dork around a compiler a little
[08:20] <forbidden> Windows has it
[08:20] <Spirits-Sight> done iceroot it did not remove to folders it seems to told me /var/spool/asterisk and another subfolder of the same path
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> forbidden: try the windows app with wine
[08:20] <Chris8> BadEagle... i'm getting some weird returns after the make...
[08:20] <badeagle> warnings?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> forbidden: i havent done it under linux
[08:20] <forbidden> thank you
[08:20] <Chris8> yuppers
[08:20] <Chris8> i'll post
[08:21] <jerroome> kingsofleon : are you trying to unzip directly onto the usb stick ?
[08:21] <Guest5736> forbidden: what are you doing??
[08:21] <Guest5736> you need an IP to connect to a remote host
[08:21] <jerroome> if yes, that might be the problem, writing on flash drives isn't so fast
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> CorpX: try 5800 and 5900, i think the default is VNC
[08:21] <forbidden> trying to connect a cisco swith through console
[08:21] <kingsofleon> jerroome: yes, there's a .gz file which contains an image for acer aspire one recovery
[08:21] <forbidden> switch
[08:21] <oskar-> forbidden:  use minicom
[08:21] <forbidden> without the ip
[08:21] <Guest5736> locally or remote???
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> jerroome: is if itsfirewire ;)
[08:21] <kingsofleon> the command is zcat aa1_usb_recovery_image.gz > /dev/sdb1
[08:21] <forbidden> locally
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> firewire *
[08:21] <forbidden> bad!
[08:22] <kingsofleon> as i say it just hands for about half an hour with no output
[08:22] <kingsofleon> hangs
[08:22] <Guest5736> but its a swith!!
[08:22] <CorpX> ok
[08:22] <Guest5736> it just rellays packets!
[08:22] <Chris8> BadEagle:http://paste.ubuntu.com/213476/
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest5736: based on logic
[08:22] <Spirits-Sight> THanks, iceroot!!!
[08:22] <forbidden> I am trying to configure it without booting into windows
[08:22] <jerroome> ActionParsnip : writing onto a flash drive is slow, that has nothing to do with the connection you use although it can be a bit faster with firewire ...
[08:23] <codered1444> can anyone help me with my torrent problem i try my download speeds wetn way down when i switched tried all clients cant really get clients to work with wine either
[08:23] <badeagle> Chris8: i got the same ones, it just means the programmer was a sloppy A-hole like me. no biggie.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> jerroome: true
[08:23] <forbidden> I am trying to configure it without booting into windows
[08:23] <Guest5736> use your browser and type the adresse of your ROUTER if thats what you are talking about
[08:23] <forbidden> and without doing that
[08:23] <oskar-> forbidden:  you want to configure a cisco switch with an ubuntu system via console cable? where is the problem?
[08:23] <azlon> !nvidia
[08:23] <forbidden> I need a terminal
[08:23] <Chris8> BadEagleL okies i'll make install and cross my nuts
[08:24] <Guest5736> use elinks with curl
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> forbidden: whats the app in windows called
[08:24] <oskar-> forbidden: what about minicom?
[08:24] <CTShadow> i've got an ubuntu 8.10 server with 2 nic's sharing the same subnet and ltsp installed. on eht0 i've got my production network and on eth1 are my ltsp clients. the server leases ip's with dhcp via both interfaces, but does not respond on arp requests on eth1 (the ltsp interface). how can i fix this?
[08:24] <forbidden> never heard of minicom
[08:24] <guntbert> !prefix | forbidden, and you want a "terminal emulator", right?
[08:24] <codered1444> can anyone help me with my torrent problem i try my download speeds wetn way down when i switched tried all clients cant really get clients to work with wine either
[08:24] <forbidden> yes terminal emulator
[08:25] <forbidden> yes terminal emulator
[08:25] <forbidden> for cisco
[08:25] <forbidden> for cisco
[08:25] <oskar-> forbidden:  minicom is a terminal emulator.
[08:25] <FloodBot3> forbidden: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:25] <forbidden> typing
[08:25] <jerroome> kingsofleon : can't give you any hint on that ...
[08:25] <iMatter> Ok i am back, i was the ubuntu guy
[08:25] <iMatter> a restart fixed it not sure what damage i did by the force reboot..
[08:25] <guntbert> forbidden: there is mincom, ckermit,... (I use mincom)
[08:26] <codered1444> can anyone help me with my torrent problem i try my download speeds wetn way down when i switched tried all clients cant really get clients to work with wine either
[08:26] <iMatter> well.. How would i go about installing Home to a separate partition than the OS
[08:26] <Chris8> BadEagle: grrr... cannot create regular file... Error 1 etc... http://paste.ubuntu.com/213480/
[08:26] <oskar-> iMatter:  while installation or afterwards?
[08:27] <guntbert> !repeat | codered1444
[08:27] <ober> us.archive down?
[08:27] <iMatter> oskar-: before, i already have ubuntu installed but im planning on upgrading to 9.04 so i thought i'd set it up now so i won't have to loose an arm and a leg to upgrade or if something goes wrong and i need a fresh install
[08:27] <l0C0> Chris8: sudo make install?
[08:27] <Flannel> iMatter: during install? or have you already installed?
[08:28] <iMatter> Flannel: what do you mean..?
[08:29] <CTShadow> i've got an ubuntu 8.10 server with 2 nic's sharing the same subnet and ltsp installed. on eht0 i've got my production network and on eth1 are my ltsp clients. the server leases ip's with dhcp via both interfaces, but does not respond on arp requests on eth1 (the ltsp interface). how can i fix this?
[08:29] <codered1444> if i were to dual boot with vist(where my speeds were high) would that work
[08:29] <Chris8> IoCO: will try... thought
[08:29] <forbidden> Thank you! will keep tryin
[08:29] <Flannel> iMatter: Are you looking to move your home folder to a separate partition after you've already installde it? or are you trying to figure out how to do it while installing?
[08:29] <guntbert> CTShadow: maybe you'll have better success in #ubuntu-server
[08:29] <iMatter> Flannel: move home folder to a separate partition after its already installed (8.04) not the new 9.04 im trying to upgrade to
[08:30] <Invisible_Porn> hai
[08:30] <Flannel> !separatehome | iMatter
[08:30] <CTShadow> guntbert: thanks, ill try that
[08:30] <Wazzzaaa_> Hi, is there an environment var for the /home dir ?
[08:30] <guntbert> CTShadow: good luck :)
[08:30] <codered1444> *sorry i meant vista if i dual booted with vista
[08:30] <Flannel> Wazzzaaa_: Why do you ask?
[08:30] <agent_j> ober: you mean the gov site?
[08:31] <Wazzzaaa_> because I need that path for a script
[08:31] <oskar-> iMatter:  so you want to do it afterwards, although before the upgrade? log in as user, "cd /", "sudo -i", create a partition in free space, "mkfs....", "mount ... /mnt/newhome", "cp -ax /home/* /mnt/newhome/", edit fstab (new partition/fs -> /home), remove the contents of /home/ on the root fs, if you are sure, that everything was ok
[08:31] <Flannel> Wazzzaaa: it's $HOME
[08:31] <Wazzzaaa> no, that is /home/currentuser
[08:31] <Flannel> Wazzzaaa: that's the homedir of the current user
[08:31] <Wazzzaaa> I need the dir where the homedirs are stored /home
[08:32] <Flannel> Wazzzaaa: that's /home
[08:32] <iMatter> oskar-: interesting was kinda lost after a certain point...How much space would i need for just ubuntu, is 10GB good?
[08:32] <Wazzzaaa> But it's not always /home
[08:32] <iMatter> oskar-: and instead could i do this from a Live CD
[08:32] <Wazzzaaa> So there is no environment var for it ?
[08:32] <iMatter> oskar-: the copying of home via all GUI...