[00:00] <k1l_> please show the exact lines
[00:00] <ross_> sure
[00:02] <ross_> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/wJ1xar1Y
[00:03] <ikonia> someone else had this problem a week or so ago
[00:03] <ikonia> and it was because their local cache was not getting updated
[00:03] <k1l_> ross_: seems more like it cant reach <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:03] <ross_> I can try the drastic one
[00:03] <ikonia> nah <IP_ADDRESS> is there and up, the Packages file isn't there
[00:04] <k1l_> i know this is a dns issue sometimes
[00:04] <ross_> it can reach it fine
[00:04] <ross_> curl shows me a nice 404
[00:04] <aiconnect> Hi all. new to this channel
[00:06] <k1l_> ross_: you are not behind a proxy or vpn?
[00:07] <Bashing-om> aiconnect: Welcome, Hang loose, learn a lot, this is ubuntu support .
[00:08] <ross_> k1l_ this is in ec2 no proxies/vpns
[00:08] <aiconnect> thanks :)
[00:08] <aiconnect> Joining to lean more about Linux
[00:08] <ross_> I can reproduce the 404 from home, and other clients. are you not seeing it?
[00:08] <ross_> thought ikonia saw a 404 as well
[00:09] <YvesLevier> aiconnect: Great - Start with a question?
[00:10] <aiconnect> No specific question yet, I am a CompSci student (IT Sec focus, and was always more Windows than Linux. But now I am learning more about Linux, so I thought this would be a good place to learn more.
[00:10] <k1l_> ross_: just running a vivid on here, but vivid-security is not set on security.ubuntu.com but on the same archive.ubuntu.com in sources.list
[00:11] <ross_> alright will try a archive
[00:11] <YvesLevier> aiconnect: Do you have a Linux installed yet?
[00:11] <aiconnect> Oh yeah, I have Ubuntu on a desktop and I have Kali on a VM on my windows Laptop
[00:11] <Bashing-om> aiconnect: Great store house of knowledge: http://ubuntuforums.org/ .
[00:12] <k1l_> ross_: the line is exactly: "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu vivid-security main restricted"
[00:13] <ross_> 404 as well
[00:15] <q_> aiconnect, you comfortable with the command line ?
[00:15] <aiconnect> Hmm..... 6/10
[00:15] <ross_> intersting the non-determinism
[00:17] <backbox> hi
[00:17] <q_> aiconnect, I think thats really the big thing to learn, really it's just a collection of tools you kind of have to memorize, I wouldn't worry about sed/awk or text manipulation just yet, but get a firm handle on the commands you'll need for security, there are some good security based distros out there as well that can help
[00:17] <aiconnect> I know command line basics, I know shell scripting, and I would say I am a little more than average with my command line knowledge but I want to learn a lot more.
[00:17] <backbox> comment pirater un compte facebook
[00:18] <q_> aiconnect, etherape is also a fun little tool, although I always read it as "ethe rape" :/
[00:19] <k1l_> ross_: well, i dont know a solution right now.
[00:20] <aiconnect> I know a bunch of tools to: Wireshark, John the Ripper, Snort, Nmap blah blah blah but I am far far far from great with Linux so the more I can learn here, the happier I will be :)
[00:20] <q_> aiconnect, also get your alias's setup asap, it makes using the command line 100% easier, if bash it's in ~/.bashrc
[00:20] <q_> aiconnect, oh cool youre on your way then :)
[00:21] <aiconnect> Yeah I am getting there, maybe one day I will be awesome with Linux, or at least non cringe worthy to the experts haha
[00:22] <crosse> hi
[00:22] <q_> aiconnect, hehe cool, well good luck, it takes a while but it's mostly fun - it definitely has a ceiling though, once your get solid with it, it's there for life
[00:23] <q_> aiconnect, it doesn't change a lot :)
[00:23] <q_> hi crosse
[00:23] <aiconnect> Hi Crosse
[00:23] <crosse> haw are you
[00:24] <YvesLevier> Linux people always feel fine.  How can we help you today?
[00:25] <crosse> hi
[00:27] <ross_> ikonia: why are you such a dick?
[00:27] <pbx> crosse, if you have a question just dive in and ask!
[00:28] <crosse> ok ihave
[00:28] <crosse> how to install
[00:28] <crosse> how to install pcxsé in ubuntu 14.10
[00:30] <kostkon> !info pcsx
[00:30] <crosse> whay?
[00:31] <crosse> oh ...no
[00:31] <kostkon> !info pcsxr
[00:32] <crosse> pcsxr
[00:34] <crosse> thnxxxxxxx for all
[00:34] <kostkon> crosse, np
[00:38] <crosse> kostkon ????? where are you
[00:38] <kostkon> crosse, I'm here
[00:38] <crosse> help me
[00:39] <crosse> to install pcsxr
[00:39] <kostkon> crosse, either use the software centre or in the terminal, do:  sudo apt-get install pcsxr
[00:40] <crosse> ok
[00:42] <Geo> Hi - my 12.04 ubuntu install is fully up to date (via apt), but when I type openssl version, the date shown is from 2012. Does this mean it is not patched against heartbleed? Or am I looking at the wrong version?
[00:43] <ikonia> Geo: no it doesn't
[00:43] <Geo> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[00:43] <crosse> kostkon  thnx
[00:43] <Geo> Where should I instead be looking?
[00:43] <ikonia> you're looking in the right place
[00:43] <kostkon> crosse, happy to have helped
[00:44] <crosse> from where you
[00:44] <Geo> ikonia, ok, i give up, how do I tell then? :)
[00:44] <ikonia> Geo: tell what ?
[00:44] <Ben64> Geo: apt-cache policy openssl
[00:44] <kostkon> crosse, this is an support only channel, we can't chit-chat here unfortunately
[00:44] <Geo> If I'm patched to the current version- that version says its from 2012, pre-heartbleed, but you said that doesnt mean it is not patched
[00:45] <ikonia> Geo: look at the ubuntu package version
[00:45] <ikonia> the fixes are back ported,
[00:45] <crosse> ok sorry
[00:45] <Geo> 1.0.1-4ubuntu5.25 - I'm used to seeing 1.0.1g , etc. How do I correlate that?
[00:46] <k1l_> Geo: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.25/changelog
[00:46] <ikonia> "used to seeing" ?
[00:46] <ikonia> you will see the version it is
[00:46] <ikonia> nothing more
[00:46] <Ben64> Geo: you can look at the changelogs, but that package is from March 19th, 2015 so its good
[00:47] <Geo> Ben64: just found https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/
[00:47] <Geo> so yes, thank you!
[00:47] <Guest77129> is there a way to make a command use all the processors. Like "makeopts -j5" in gentoo
[00:47] <ikonia> Guest77129: no
[00:47] <ikonia> they are build options, not run time
[00:47] <Guest77129> ok, fair enough
[00:47] <Guest77129> thanks
[00:47] <ikonia> processes will use multiple processes if they are smp aware
[00:48] <Ben64> depends on the command really, there are ways to parallelize certain things
[00:48] <Geo> is there a way to relate these ubuntu packages to the openssl stable releases? ie 1.0.1g, etc
[00:48] <ikonia> Geo: no
[00:48] <kostkon> Geo, openssl version -a   check the build date
[00:48] <ikonia> Geo: they are not related to different versios
[00:48] <ikonia> they are related to the version they say they are in the packages/version
[00:49] <k1l_> Geo: you are trying to go the wrong path. you are frightened of CVEs? so look at http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ if the CVE is patched for your ubuntu version.
[00:49] <Geo> k1l_, nope- just trying to figure out what version I have
[00:50] <Geo> anyway, think i'm there now. thank you
[00:50] <ikonia> Geo: you have the version in the package list
[00:50] <ikonia> Geo: and in the openssl version option
[00:50] <vixterra> Changes I make in nvidia-settings dont persist across reboots, even when running nvidia-settings as root through gksudo. Is there some other issue with nvidia-settings in 14.10?
[00:50] <Geo> ikonia: as I said twice, openssl version shows a date from 2012
[00:50] <ikonia> Geo: correct
[00:50] <Geo> so that doesn't seem to be accurate
[00:50] <ikonia> Geo: and that is correct
[00:50] <ikonia> it is accurate
[00:50] <k1l_> Geo: itsa accurate. it just get patched
[00:51] <Ben64> OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014     \n     built on: Thu Mar 19 15:12:02 UTC 2015
[00:51] <k1l_> Geo: ubuntu doesnt increase the version number but patch.
[00:51] <Ben64> because it has security fixes but its the same version
[00:51] <k1l_> Ben64: that is a 14.04?
[00:51] <Ben64> yep
[00:52] <k1l_> he is using the 12.04
[00:52] <Ben64> i know, but you can see two differing dates on mine too
[00:52] <kostkon> on 12.04:   OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012 built on: Thu Mar 19 15:18:31 UTC 2015
[00:52] <k1l_> yes of course :)
[00:55] <Trfsrfr> Having issues burning 14.04 iso image to disc
[00:55] <Geo> ahhh.... ok, so maybe this is making more sense now on some other issues I'm having. Is there any reason some code might fail with 'ssl wrong version number' as a result of this 'old patched' version being used?
[00:55] <Geo> or is *all* the stuff backported?
[00:55] <Ben64> only security stuff
[00:56] <Geo> right- some python scripts using SSL/TLS (not sure which) fail
[00:56] <Trfsrfr> used brasero to write image to disk but it didn't become a boot disk.
[00:56] <Geo> Would upgrading <something> on the client machine help?
[00:57] <Ben64> Geo: upgrading to 14.04 maybe
[00:57] <Guest77129> I think get you ikonia, I was trying to wipe a drive with dd, and figured it could go faster with multiple threads, but prob would have bottlenecked at the USB anyway
[00:58] <phix> ok, I am still having issues with unity, some windows open but I cannot get them to the foreground
[00:58] <Geo> Ben64: so no suggested path while keeping it on 12.04?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | Trfsrfr (???)
[00:58] <Ben64> Geo: depends what the script actually needs
[00:59] <Trfsrfr> I tried to use md5sum but its not working
[01:00] <genii> define "not working"
[01:01] <Trfsrfr> I would go to the terminal to use it, but the terminal says things are in my directory that are not there when I open the window
[01:01] <Trfsrfr> I just did a restart
[01:01] <bindi> how can i figure out which ubuntu version i have on my usb stick? (installation usb)
[01:01] <Geo> poking at a few things, it looks like sslv3 isnt working/being offered. This may be starting to wander off topic, but I'll leave you alone if anyone can confirm or deny that there are issues or not with sslv3 on 12.04?
[01:01] <OerHeks> bindi, date of files say something
[01:02] <bindi> 21.8.2014 but still nfi :P
[01:02] <Trfsrfr> And I would try to change directory's but it would say directory not found
[01:02] <Trfsrfr> weird
[01:02] <bindi> ahha
[01:02] <bindi> found "info" file. 14.04
[01:04] <Trfsrfr> I tried copying and pasting the command from the ubuntu how page, but it would say no such file, or something to that effect
[01:04] <Trfsrfr> thats why I restarted
[01:04] <Geo> or maybe python was compiled against an old openssl version?
[01:04] <Ben64> Trfsrfr: sounds like you're typing things wrong
[01:06] <Trfsrfr> Ben64, I have the iso file in my download folder. what do I type to run md5sum?
[01:06] <Ben64> md5sum path/to/the.iso
[01:07] <OerHeks> Trfsrfr, it is all there, "First open a terminal and go to the correct directory to check a downloaded iso file: ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ cd Downloads" etc
[01:08] <Trfsrfr> its there in my download folder
[01:08] <ryanbekhen> hello
[01:09] <ryanbekhen> can i ask?
[01:09] <Trfsrfr> ryanbekhan just ask
[01:09] <ubuntuboy> hi all
[01:10] <ryanbekhen> how to chat from IP
[01:11] <Ben64> ryanbekhen: what do you mean? this is an ubuntu support channel, for other questions, you should find an appropriate place
[01:12] <OerHeks> ryanbekhen, do as you do now.
[01:12] <ubuntuboy> I have a quick question, does anyone know why I cant stream Time Warner live tv in Ubuntu 14.10?? First it want me to install silver light, but I ended up installing pipelight, as well as Wine,, now I get the message to update flash.. but I seems like im running the latest flash...
[01:12] <Trfsrfr> I ran md5sum and got this; 1b305d585b1918f297164add46784116  ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[01:13] <ZeloZelos> anybody have a dell dimension 3000...how's it running?
[01:14] <ZeloZelos> with ubuntu L)
[01:14] <OerHeks> ubuntuboy, silverlight/moonlight is trouble, try chome browser instead, also for netflix with that same DRM
[01:14] <ubuntuboy> Thanks Oerheks
[01:14] <Trfsrfr> So it's all good I see. How do I burn the image to dvd?
[01:15] <ZeloZelos> is edubuntu still being done?
[01:16] <Trfsrfr> ben64, So it's all good I see. How do I burn the image to dvd?
[01:17] <Ben64> Trfsrfr: use a burning software to write it as an image to a dvd
[01:17] <ZeloZelos> guess i will have to go through all the flavors to find out ;)
[01:17] <Bashing-om> ZeloZelos: Yup : http://www.edubuntu.org/download .
[01:17] <ZeloZelos> oh..thanks Bashing-om
[01:18] <ZeloZelos> i see that the current release may run slow...can i still switch to a different window, like xfce or gnome?
[01:20] <ZeloZelos> it may be useful; i have a dell dimension 3000, and it had xp, i will be letting a friends daughter have it, but it needs to be secured, since xp is out of whatchacallit, i think ubuntu is a good choice, but i dont want to give her a paper weight...suggestions?
[01:20] <OerHeks> current release may run slow? don't see that on the edubuntu page
[01:21] <Bashing-om> ZeloZelos: Well, one can .. but why not : http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ : or install ,imimal and install the desktop environment you choose ?
[01:21] <ZeloZelos> no on other searches
[01:23] <Bashing-om> ZeloZelos: Low spec hardware try : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu .
[01:23] <ZeloZelos> oh yea, i totally forgot about lubuntu
[01:23] <mybox1776> does anyone know the command to simply make a USB drive bootable from a .ISO I downloaded?
[01:23] <MadLamb> xclip is not working for me, i still have the same content after running it. Is there a way to fix or is there any other way to copy a command output?
[01:24] <ZeloZelos> kk grabbing edubuntu and lubuntu, one of those will work im sure
[01:24] <Bashing-om> mybox1776: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot .
[01:24] <mybox1776> Thanks!
[01:24] <ZeloZelos> thanks for the help Bashing-om ;)
[01:25] <Bashing-om> ZeloZelos: :) , glad to be of some slight assist.
[01:26] <wsitu> hello
[01:26] <ZeloZelos> maybe i should grab kubuntu too, kde may be a good one ;)
[01:27] <Bashing-om> MadLamb: Redirect the output to a file :; as in -> ls -al /boot > boot-file <- . Maybe work for ya .
[01:27] <Trfsrfr> ben64, i tried that once using brasero, it didn't become bootable.
[01:28] <Ben64> Trfsrfr: you can't burn it as a file though
[01:28] <spike> bonsoir  :)
[01:32] <Trfsrfr> ben64, how do I erase whats was burned onto the dvd in terminal?
[01:32] <Ben64> Trfsrfr: is it a dvdrw or dvdr
[01:33] <phix> so why is Unity so buggy for?
[01:33] <Trfsrfr> Ben64, dvd+r
[01:33] <phix> and compiz, that guy is unstable
[01:33] <Ben64> Trfsrfr: then you can't erase it...
[01:33] <Trfsrfr> Okey dokey
[01:35] <Trfsrfr> Ben64, I just put in a new dvd+r and a dialogue box comes up saying  Unable to mount, location is already mounted. It said this last time too.
[01:38] <Trfsrfr> I hit okay, now use cd/dvd creator? I tried this last time...
[01:40] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1069964
[01:40] <OerHeks> still valid in vidid too
[01:40] <OerHeks> just ignore that warning
[01:46] <skilroy> Hi
[01:57] <VergilPrime> Hey guys. I'm trying to set up keyfile authentication on my server. I have keys generated but there's no authorized_keys file or directory. I'm not sure how to generate or manually create the required file or directory.
[01:58] <Trfsrfr> Okay, I have just tried to burn an iso image to disk twice with brasero and now I have two disks that are not bootable. What am I doing wrong?
[01:58] <VergilPrime> Are the discs super old?
[01:58] <Trfsrfr> not really
[01:59] <VergilPrime> That was a problem for me. All my discs had gone crappy.
[01:59] <ianorlin> !md5sum | Trfsrfr
[01:59] <ianorlin> might be bad download
[01:59] <Trfsrfr> download is good, I checked with md5sum, and its good
[02:00] <VergilPrime> Is there somewhere better to ask about SSH stuff?
[02:00] <VergilPrime> :I
[02:03] <ryan_46>  Trfsrfr Are you using windows to do it?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> Trfsrfr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto .
[02:03] <Trfsrfr> ryan_46, no im using ubuntu
[02:04] <ryan_46> Trfsrfr OK
[02:04] <OerHeks> Trfsrfr, what happens if you try?
[02:05] <Trfsrfr> OerHeks, try what?
[02:06] <OerHeks> Trfsrfr, how about "try to boot the burned dvd" ? really ...
[02:06] <ryan_46> Trfsrfr What burning software? Are you sure you are not just copying the file instead of burning image?
[02:06] <OerHeks> ryan_46, he is been told severel times howto...
[02:06] <Trfsrfr> I used brasero and I burned an image
[02:07] <ryan_46> OerHeks ok
[02:07] <Trfsrfr> twice
[02:17] <guest223944> hey guys im trying to install wine 1.7  and i keep getting package conflicts with libstarpu-1.1-7 : Conflicts: libstarpu-contrib-1.1-7 but 1.1.3+dfsg-3build3 is to be installed
[02:19] <OerHeks> guest223944, how do you try to install wine?
[02:20] <OerHeks> 1.7
[02:20] <guest223944> apt-get install wine 1.7
[02:23] <guest223944> using the wine ppa
[02:23] <OerHeks> wine 1.7 isn't in the repos, even next vivid gives 1.6.2
[02:23] <guest223944> sorry
[02:23] <OerHeks> oh, contact the ppa owner
[02:23] <OerHeks> !ppa
[02:26] <jmfurlott> Anybody here using a bluetooth mouse? Any recommendations? One that works exceptionally well with ubuntu?
[02:26] <gr33n7007h> guest223944: have you got a space between wine and 1.7 or is that typo?
[02:26] <guest223944> thats the package name
[02:27] <Ben64> the package name is not "wine 1.7"
[02:27] <AloeVera> ping
[02:27] <gr33n7007h> so you've tried: sudo apt-get install wine1.7 ?
[02:27] <guest223944> yes it is
[02:27] <Ben64> it's really not
[02:27] <AloeVera> try apt search wine
[02:27] <bazhang> !info wine
[02:27] <AloeVera> find wine 1.7
[02:28] <guest223944> wine1.7 has no installation canidate
[02:28] <bazhang> the name is wine alone
[02:28] <guest223944> that will install 1.6
[02:28] <AloeVera> :0
[02:28] <gr33n7007h> guest223944: have you installed the ppa?
[02:28] <bazhang> correct
[02:28] <guest223944> yes
[02:28] <gr33n7007h> have you updated with: sudo apt-get update ?
[02:29] <OerHeks> he got an error installing, so the name should be correct
[02:29] <Ben64> guest223944: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install wine1.7"
[02:29] <AloeVera> he said it has no installation candidate. I personally suggest he use "apt search" to find the package he is looking for
[02:30] <bazhang> AloeVera, it's apt-cache search package
[02:30] <AloeVera> not what I mean
[02:30] <AloeVera> literally just apt search
[02:31] <AloeVera> they do different thigs as i understand
[02:31] <gr33n7007h> AloeVera: apt search?
[02:31] <guest223944> http://sprunge.us/JJKj
[02:31] <bazhang> perhaps you are thinking of aptitude search
[02:31] <AloeVera> OMG
[02:31] <AloeVera> apt search
[02:31] <AloeVera> try it
[02:32] <ryclik> apt-cache search
[02:32] <AloeVera> noh
[02:32] <guest223944> ive tried doing clean and autoclean already
[02:32] <Ben64> guest223944: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install wine1.7"
[02:32] <guest223944> i just did
[02:32] <Ben64> you didn't ping me, didn't see it
[02:32] <Ben64> and thats not what i said
[02:32] <OerHeks> guest223944, no, again that space in sine 1.7
[02:33] <Ben64> guest223944: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install wine1.7"
[02:33] <gr33n7007h> guest you're putting a space in the package name should be wine1.7
[02:33] <OerHeks> sinw/wine
[02:33] <guest223944> look at my link
[02:33] <OerHeks> http://sprunge.us/JJKj  ??
[02:33] <Ben64> read what i said to pastebin
[02:33] <AloeVera> I am guessing you added a repository to get wine1.7, being it isnt in the normal ppas. did you remember to update?
[02:33] <Ben64> then look at what you actually typed
[02:33] <guest223944> what
[02:34] <OerHeks> blame ubuntu :-P
[02:34] <guest223944> http://sprunge.us/JJKj
[02:34] <Ben64> "wine1.7" "wine 1.7"
[02:34] <Ben64> are you really not seeing a difference
[02:34] <guest223944> dude seriously
[02:34] <AloeVera> why bother using wine, why not use mono
[02:34] <Ben64> yes, seriously
[02:34] <guest223944> its sudo apt-get install wine 1.7
[02:34] <Ben64> it is not!
[02:34] <guest223944> holy eri[ofje9rjt
[02:34] <Ben64> just do it
[02:35] <AloeVera> I think we are being trolled
[02:35] <guest223944> i did already
[02:35] <Ben64> you did not
[02:35] <ryclik> AloeVera: yes
[02:35] <AloeVera> lololol
[02:35] <OerHeks> guest223944, please go to softwarecenter, and select wine there
[02:35] <Ben64> you keep doing a space, do it without the space
[02:35] <AloeVera> rm -rf
[02:35] <AloeVera> rm -rf /
[02:35] <Ben64> AloeVera: not helpful
[02:35] <guest223944> wine1.7 has no installation candidate
[02:35] <Ben64> !danger
[02:35] <CountryfiedLinux> Howdy.
[02:35] <AloeVera> howdy
[02:35] <OerHeks> AloeVera, you could get banned for that.
[02:35] <Ben64> guest223944: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install wine1.7"~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[02:35] <AloeVera> :0
[02:35] <ryclik> lol @ubotty
[02:35] <CountryfiedLinux> Can somneone give me a list of desktops that don't have the screen tearing issue?
[02:35] <bazhang> AloeVera, dont do that ever
[02:36] <guest223944> Ben64, I HAVE DONE THAT ALREADY
[02:36] <OerHeks> CountryfiedLinux, sounds like a hardware issue, not distro issue
[02:36] <Ben64> guest223944: you really haven't
[02:36] <guest223944> http://sprunge.us/JJKj
[02:36] <guest223944> http://sprunge.us/JJKj
[02:36] <guest223944> http://sprunge.us/JJKj
[02:36] <Ben64> that has a space
[02:36] <Ben64> STOP WITH THE SPACE
[02:36] <AloeVera> CountryfiedLinux: try kwin. sounds like a WM issue
[02:36] <guest223944> ^^^^
[02:36] <CountryfiedLinux> It can't be a hardware issue because it doesn't happen in Windows.
[02:37] <guest223944> SUDO APT-GET INSTALL WINE1.7 HAS NO INSTALLATION CANDIDATE
[02:37] <Ben64> guest223944: pastebin it
[02:37] <AloeVera> CountryfiedLinux: change your compositing settings
[02:37] <guest223944> E: Package 'wine1.7' has no installation candidate
[02:37] <Ben64> guest223944: pastebin it
[02:37] <[n0mad]> wouldn't that mean no repository added?
[02:37] <[n0mad]> why can't you just use the web site? https://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[02:37] <Ben64> [n0mad]: possibly, yes
[02:38] <Ben64> [n0mad]: because that just says to add the ppa and install wine1.7
[02:38] <[n0mad]> it has pretty great instructions with pictures even
[02:38] <[n0mad]> it has the command line too
[02:38] <[n0mad]> it says just what you're telling him
[02:38] <[n0mad]> :)
[02:38] <Ben64> yep
[02:39] <Ben64> [n0mad]: trying to get past this first step still...
[02:39] <guest223944> im using the ppa from wine
[02:39] <Ben64> guest223944: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install wine1.7"
[02:39] <AloeVera> did you update after adding the ppa?
[02:39] <guest223944> why
[02:39] <AloeVera> you need to sudo apt-get update
[02:39] <guest223944> ben64 your seriously not helping
[02:39] <Ben64> guest223944: help me help you
[02:39] <petrvs> help me
[02:39] <petrvs> help you
[02:40] <guest223944> i have gave you the output 5 different times now
[02:40] <Ben64> you gotta do things that will help, otherwise it won't help
[02:40] <OerHeks> guest223944, you are giving the same url over and over again, with the space in the name.
[02:40] <Ben64> guest223944: wine1.7
[02:40] <Ben64> no space
[02:40] <OerHeks> guest223944, Ben64 is trying to help, and wants the correct output.
[02:40] <SirMoo> Firefox updated... and is now broken. :( Won't launch. Might someone be able to give me an idea of what to do? Few bug reports look similar... but don't really give me a solution. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10778815/
[02:41] <AloeVera> Ben64 his issue doesnt seem to be the space, as his package manager understands what he is looking for, his issue is that the package has no installation candidate
[02:41] <Ben64> AloeVera: i need the full command and error in a pastebin though
[02:42] <guest223944> why do i need to waste time pastebining that when it just says wine1.7 has no installation candidate
[02:42] <guest223944> seriously.....
[02:42] <Ben64> because without following this first basic step, you'll never get anything done
[02:42] <Ben64> you're spending way too much time fighting
[02:42] <SirMoo> Paste's are the key to happiness...
[02:43] <OerHeks> guest223944, if you did it correct, then there is a PPA problem we cant solve, contact the maintainer
[02:44] <AloeVera> guest223944 try to install wine1.7-dev it should pull in the normal wine1.7 as a dependancy
[02:44] <[n0mad]> SirMoo, i'm pretty much new but i think you can try firefox -safemode and it will give an option to enter safe mode or reset based on some mozilla forum, could maybe try that
[02:44] <AloeVera> if not that then try to install either wine1.7-amd64 or wine1.7-i386 depending on 64 bit or 32 bit
[02:45] <OerHeks> or just go to softwarecenter > wine
[02:45] <[n0mad]> if you don't want to reset your firefox, you may want smarter help than i can give :)
[02:45] <gr33n7007h> guest223944: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine1.7 #
[02:45] <SirMoo> [n0mad]: Seems to be the same result. :(
[02:46] <Ben64> SirMoo: make sure firefox is not running, then rename ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla-foo or something, then start firefox again
[02:48] <Trfsrfr> I give up. I'm going to my windows machine to put 14.04 on a disk.
[02:48] <AloeVera> I recently modified my XFCE install to use KWIN as the window manager. this is awesome :)
[02:48] <AloeVera> Trfsrfr what is the issue?
[02:49] <SirMoo> Ben64: No change.
[02:50] <Ben64> SirMoo: :(
[02:50] <Trfsrfr> AloeVera, I've tried twice now to burn the 14.04 iso image to a disk with brasero, both times it did not become a bootable disk
[02:50] <Christian_Death> where am i?
[02:50] <Ben64> Christian_Death: #ubuntu, the Ubuntu support channel
[02:50] <Christian_Death> god
[02:50] <AloeVera> Trfsrfr what heppens when you try to boot it
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Trfsrfr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto ; http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows .
[02:50] <Christian_Death> i dont use ubuntu
[02:50] <Christian_Death> D:
[02:51] <Christian_Death> i am a microsoft heretic
[02:51] <AloeVera> :0
[02:51] <Trfsrfr> AloeVera, it boots into my 13. 04 Os
[02:51] <Ben64> Trfsrfr: are you sure you're not burning the file to the disc?
[02:51] <Trfsrfr> Ben64, yes, I've done it twice now.
[02:51] <Trfsrfr> Wait up, let me try something...
[02:51] <AloeVera> Trfsrfr try redownloading the iso, or try a different burner like xfburn or k3b
[02:53] <Trfsrfr> AloeVera, I tried installing k3b, and other programs, but since my 13.04 is EOL, I cannot install them. Gimme a sec, I'm gonna pop one of the 2 disks ive burned into my windows machine and see what happens
[02:53] <SirMoo> Oh. Minor success telling synaptic to reinstall...
[02:53] <Ben64> SirMoo: minor?
[02:53] <SirMoo> Well, it started... Printing out similar errors.
[02:53] <ryan_46> Min
[02:54] <AloeVera> rekt
[02:54] <Ben64> SirMoo: synaptic printed errors or the newly installed firefox
[02:54] <SirMoo> Ben64: Newly installed. Starting from the terminal came up with similar errors to my paste, just not seg fault.
[02:55] <Ben64> SirMoo: thats really strange, have you rebooted since
[02:56] <Trfsrfr> AloeVera, Ben64, when I put the burned disk into my windows machine the autoplay install ubuntu or open to view files dialog box comes up. Been awhile since I used that machine
[02:57] <Ben64> Trfsrfr: sounds like it burned properly then
[02:57] <SirMoo> Ben64: Yes. Just telling synaptic to 'reinstall' seems to have solved it. I'm going to chaulk it up to the update installing wrong. It's giving  me the (process:6688): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' faile error... But that's better than segfault since it's running. :P
[02:57] <Trfsrfr> Ben64, right. But why when I put it in my 13.04 machine it doesn't boot?
[02:57] <OerHeks> Trfsrfr, sure your current 13.04 machine is 64 bit capable ?
[02:58] <Trfsrfr> OerHerks, I think so...pretty sure. Been running 64 bit for over a year now...
[02:58] <gr33n7007h> Trfsrfr: have you made cdrom boot first from bios?
[02:59] <Trfsrfr> Now that is a good question...
[03:00] <gr33n7007h> Trfsrfr: wouldn't harm to check just to make sure
[03:00] <Trfsrfr> I'm gonna restart. I'll be back in a few
[03:03] <dima666> whats up my niggaz
[03:03] <dima666> whats cracking
[03:03] <dima666> 613256
[03:03] <dima666> just remember that number
[03:03] <petrvs> will do
[03:04] <[n0mad]> what's the number again?
[03:04] <OerHeks> !language | dima666 such insults are not welkcome,
[03:05] <petrvs> [n0mad]: 42?
[03:05] <dima666> 42 strategies of war
[03:07] <AloeVera> w0t
[03:15] <shafox> While my windows laptop is getting better (better is 3 bars )wifi signal my ubuntu 14.04 is getting very less (less is 1 signal) signal. accessing the same wifi connection from same place (distance to the router is same)
[03:15] <elky> dima666: please go elsewhere with that nonsense
[03:15] <shafox> What would i do to make the ubuntu get more signal so that the internet is fast
[03:17] <OerHeks> shafox, led lights do not say how good your connection is, test it with speedtest.
[03:17] <OerHeks> and compare with windows
[03:17] <elky> shafox: are they actually different? have you checked with speedtest.net or similar?
[03:17] <shafox> OerHeks: Not talking about led lights but rather the wifi icon that shows up while connected to the wifi.
[03:18] <shafox> elky: I have not tested with speedtest.net but it feels fast in windows. the response is instant in windows but in ubuntu it takes several seconds
[03:18] <petrvs> shafox: connect it to a wire?
[03:18] <petrvs> :)
[03:19] <jason__> I actually experienced something similar.
[03:19] <shafox> petrvs: that is the last solution. in the mean time i would like to try any other options that might have.
[03:19] <jason__> I switched from windows to Ubuntu and my wireless was behaving really poorly, then I moved my router closer and everything was solved.
[03:20] <shafox> jason__: that i am considering. and yes if i move close to router or vice cersa the signal strength increses and the browsing is fast
[03:20] <OerHeks> moving the antenna position can do some good to
[03:20] <elky> shafox: is it dual boot or is it a different network card?
[03:20] <shafox> elky: different machine.
[03:20] <OerHeks> still want to see speedtest comparison
[03:20] <petrvs> better router
[03:21] <petrvs> different channel
[03:21] <petrvs> cantenna
[03:21] <OerHeks> oh, different machine ..
[03:21] <petrvs> lasers
[03:21] <[n0mad]> drivers
[03:21] <elky> shafox: that's probably why. for all i know one might be a and one might be n
[03:21] <shafox> OerHeks: will run it in a sec
[03:22] <shafox> ubuntu has this Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Ralink RT3290LE 802.11bgn 1x1 Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.0 Combo Adapter
[03:22] <shafox> windows machine is off now.
[03:29] <random313495> Does Ubuntu have a mechanism to go back one distribution like the upposite of apt-get dist-pugrade?
[03:29] <petrvs> random313495: I believe not, but I'm sure you could do it if you reaaalllllyyyy wanted
[03:29] <petrvs> although just having a backup/snapshot would make it dead simple
[03:30] <petrvs> in the end it's just data, you copy it around, and land somewhere
[03:30] <petrvs> that somewhere can be an older version if you put forth enough effort/planning
[03:30] <petrvs> downgrading in general, though, is a silly thing
[03:30] <OerHeks> random313495, no, there is no downgrade
[03:30] <petrvs> "keep moving forward" and all that
[03:31] <random313495> okay, fresh install it is then
[03:31] <[n0mad]> shafox https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466
[03:31] <petrvs> random313495: why's that?
[03:32] <random313495> Near as I can tell, 14.10 isn't compatible with my graphics card.
[03:33] <Ben64> random313495: which card
[03:33] <random313495> It's an msi card with an nvidia 750ti.  It works fine with 14.04, but but 14.10.
[03:34] <calcmandan> testing owncloud on ubuntu server 14.10 on a vm. Installed stock apache2 and moved the owncloud folder to /var/www. followed installation instructions on owncloud's site. I get the login screen and begin creating the admin account, but it says it can't write to /var/www/data. looked at a few forum posts but they seem to have to do with data dirs being placed on other drives/mounts.
[03:34] <shafox> [n0mad]: what should i do ?
[03:34] <Ben64> random313495: should work on 14.10, just need the xorg-edgers ppa or something
[03:38] <shafox> [n0mad]: and i am on 14.04 btw.
[03:39] <random313495> ben64:  I dount it.  I've tried every driver I can find and this card just plain won't work under 14010.  It's a quirky one.
[03:39] <kWO901> I want to crack the handshake but can't afford to keep my pc woring at 100% cpu capacity for days. any suggestion?
[03:39] <kWO901> does anyknow now where i could get a free VPS or something where i could run a bruteforce? as my pc is too weak
[03:39] <[n0mad]> shafox, many in that thread are on 14.04. if you mouse over the listing for ubuntu at the top it shows just uploaded upstream like 2 weeks ago
[03:39] <Ben64> random313495: you have to add the ppa
[03:40] <[n0mad]> i'm still trying to see what the patch is everyone is referring to on there. i've never read launchpad before
[03:40] <explodes> Hey everyone! I'm setting up Samba right now and it's working great, I have the standard "share" directory w/ authentication. I also want to share a folder on a different drive. it is owned by evan:evan at /media/media/Music and when I view it from a Mac, the folder appears empty. I assume it's permissions?
[03:42] <OerHeks> kWO901, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support only..
[03:43] <calcmandan> nevermind figured it out.
[03:43] <calcmandan> woot.
[03:44] <random313495> ben64, it isn't just a driver issue.  I cant even get a recovery console working under 14.10.  8.04, 8.10, 9.04, 10.04, 12.04, 12.10, and 14.04  all work well enough to get an X desktop.  14.10 doesn't work installed on HDD of from a LiveUSB.  It isn't a bad download.  14.10 is just plainbroken.
[03:44] <[n0mad]> shafox, posts #177 and 178 appear to be the patch people are talking about for 14.04
[03:45] <Ben64> random313495: well i'd suggest sticking with 14.04 until 16.04 anyway
[03:45] <kris_> ok hey i just upload this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqt9Fqn_6M to show u how my computer atcs on its own, its hard to explain and making a vid was the only kind of thing i could come up with
[03:46] <random313495> Ben64: I agree completely, just for different reasons.
[03:46] <random313495> Anyway, off to do a reinstall.  Good night.
[03:46] <cfhowlett> kris_, please stop cross posting in different channels.
[03:47] <explodes> yea kris_ what gives
[03:47] <DatCholby> i just rm'd my hard drive
[03:47] <DatCholby> help what do
[03:47] <kris_> i use xubuntu but i posted the same one here UBUNTU, cause its basaclisly the same not?
[03:47] <DatCholby> its gone
[03:47] <petrvs> DatCholby: what'd you do exactly?
[03:47] <DatCholby> everything
[03:48] <phillips1012> did anyone just get visual artifacts lasting 3 seconds with firefox
[03:48] <phillips1012> 3 people I know just got it
[03:48] <petrvs> DatCholby: what'd you run?
[03:48] <petrvs> phillips1012: wasn't using firefox just then
[03:48] <DatCholby> rm / -rf
[03:48] <petrvs> DatCholby: no you didn't
[03:48] <petrvs> DatCholby: go joke elsewhere
[03:48] <phillips1012> it's as if the timestamp just bugged out and firefox noticed
[03:49] <cfhowlett> DatCholby, posting malicious command will get you swatted ... bbye
[03:49] <petrvs> forgot what cholby meant for a moment
[03:49] <petrvs> phillips1012: the wha?
[03:50] <petrvs> it's so easy to upgrade that joke, and yet they don't
[03:52] <jmaradin> hfm.
[03:55] <petrvs> jmaradin: I know how you feel, man
[04:04] <jmaradin> so I have a weird situation, but what it boils down to is that I am trying to login a ubuntu server installation that I have installed what I believe to be gnome-desktop-environment on. When I try to launch the default gnome instance from lightdm, I am returned a blackscreen.
[04:05] <jmaradin> the Mate and fallback gnome interfaces will however work.
[04:07] <petrvs> jmaradin: grep EE $(/var/log/Xorg*log | tail -1) | pastebinit
[04:10] <jmaradin> petrvs: looks like I am getting a permission denied on that commmand
[04:11] <gr33n7007h> jmaradin: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log | tail -1 | pastebinit
[04:11] <petrvs> does dash not do $()?
[04:12] <petrvs> jmaradin: oh, ha
[04:12] <petrvs> jmaradin: should've been $(ls /var/...
[04:12] <petrvs> whoopsies
[04:13] <jmaradin> http://pastebin.com/F8Lm2mvP
[04:13] <jmaradin> ok that worked.
[04:14] <petrvs> cute prompt
[04:14] <petrvs> or is that pastebinit magic? Don't know it =)
[04:15] <kris_> vid just added https://youtu.be/apQkQcDpMkM
[04:15] <petrvs> jmaradin: you have gnome-session? (which gnome-session)?
[04:15] <jmaradin> Oh its my prompt.
[04:15] <petrvs> kris_: neato
[04:15] <jmaradin> part of zsh
[04:16] <jmaradin> 3.14 looks like.
[04:16] <petrvs> jmaradin: I think I'd, um
[04:16] <petrvs> jmaradin: make a new user to rule out some kind of home dir cache/config nonsense
[04:16] <jmaradin> I can try that.
[04:17] <gr33n7007h> kris_: maybe ask in #debian
[04:17] <jmaradin> it really is something weird for sure.
[04:17] <petrvs> that seems to come up a lot in here, IME
[04:17] <petrvs> ends up being ~/.cache or ~/.local
[04:17] <jmaradin> Also, I am not really running that session on that machinel..
[04:17] <petrvs> but you can just try with a spanking new user to find out quick if that'll be the issue
[04:17] <jmaradin> I am loading it over xdmcp to a windows box running Xming.
[04:17] <petrvs> hrmmm, oh
[04:18] <petrvs> yeah, hard to say
[04:18] <petrvs> it wouldn't surprise me if GNOME 3's accelerated window manager and other things
[04:18] <petrvs> if enabled
[04:18] <petrvs> would choke on that
[04:18] <jmaradin> Its very very possible.
[04:18] <petrvs> if you have another wm, you could tell it to use that (with gnome) and rule that out
[04:19] <jmaradin> Oh Mate worked..
[04:19] <jmaradin> but...
[04:19] <petrvs> or possibly just figure out how to disable accelerated/effects, if possible, I don't use GNOME =)
[04:19] <jmaradin> No Hidpi settings.
[04:19] <petrvs> I doubt you need a GUI for hidpi settings, how often would you change that, once?
[04:20] <jmaradin> well mate worked, but everything was too small
[04:20] <jmaradin> I have 3 4k monitors in portrait resolution
[04:20] <jmaradin> gnome's hidpi stuff works, but only if I am using it.
[04:21] <jmaradin> I have ran linux directly on this machine before and it works quite well. I just normally am booted into windows on this machine as it also has some of my school software I need in windows on it.
[04:21] <petrvs> gebus, you rich devil :p
[04:22] <jmaradin> I have a linux "server", really just a laptop that I don't use right now.
[04:22] <petrvs> I'm sure you can get the dpi stuff working fine regardless, but I've no experience with that
[04:22] <jmaradin> Honestly, not so much. They were 475 on sale each.
[04:22]  * petrvs tries to remember the last time he had a spare $475 :p
[04:22] <jmaradin> for nice 27 inch ips lcd's
[04:23] <jmaradin> yah I know what you mean petrvs. My software dev internships paid well though :)
[04:23] <jmaradin> yah and same thing happened with another user.
[04:24] <trfsrfr> To Ben64, AloeVera, and all the others especially the person with the long number name, thank you for all your help tonight. It took me changing the boot order in BIOS to get things going. I am now running 14.04, and so far all is good. Thank you all, and I love Ubuntu!
[04:24] <jmaradin> meh, Ill just do what I normally do. Putty plus sshfs ;)
[04:25] <petrvs> mmm, sshfs
[04:25] <petrvs> what's putty for?
[04:25] <petrvs> in your use case
[04:26] <jmaradin> mostly so I can use vim
[04:26] <jmaradin> and compile, run stuff on the linux machine where I do all my dev work on.
[04:26] <petrvs> oh, stuck in insane OS land? :)
[04:26] <trfsrfr> Whoops, major typo. Thanks to Ben64, AloeVera, and person with the long number name, all good now!
[04:26] <jmaradin> yeah unfortunately with my desktop I am.,
[04:27] <jmaradin> my work laptop is running ubuntu fully now.
[04:27] <petrvs> know how you feel, sometimes
[04:27] <jmaradin> which makes me really happy.
[04:27] <jmaradin> I actually like keeping a windows machine around for gaming, as not all of my games are linux compatible yet anyhow.
[04:28] <petrvs> I don't game, I'm old and mean :)
[04:28] <petrvs> I play life
[04:28] <jmaradin> plus my keyboard does not like linux for some reason
[04:28] <petrvs> sure it does
[04:28] <jmaradin> its a corsair k70 rgb
[04:29] <[n0mad]> my wallpaper says "life is a game"
[04:29] <jmaradin> Life is definitely a game.
[04:29] <petrvs> looks colorful
[04:29] <petrvs> [n0mad]: link?
[04:29] <petrvs> looks like an ordinary 108 key otherwise
[04:30] <jmaradin> wall paper on my laptop == http://wall.alphacoders.com/big.php?i=82484
[04:30] <petrvs> :p
[04:31] <petrvs> I find wallpapers distracting, but
[04:31] <jmaradin> I like minimalist wallpapers for the most part
[04:31] <petrvs> I do want to make a script that loads a different wikipedia commons picture of the year candidate every day
[04:31] <petrvs> 'cause some of those are amazing, and not too distracting usually
[04:31] <[n0mad]> it's this one http://wallpaperforcomputer.net/60583-life-is-a-game-wallpaper.html
[04:31] <petrvs> particularly the nature ones
[04:31] <trfsrfr> How do I bring all of my saved internet favorites into 14.04?
[04:32] <petrvs> trfsrfr: from IE?
[04:32] <trfsrfr> petrvs, no from 13.04
[04:32] <petrvs> trfsrfr: you do a clean install or what?
[04:33] <petrvs> "clean"
[04:33] <trfsrfr> petrvs, no I upgraded
[04:33] <petrvs> trfsrfr: they're not there already?
[04:33] <trfsrfr> nope
[04:33] <petrvs> trfsrfr: what browser?
[04:33] <trfsrfr> firefox
[04:34] <petrvs> trfsrfr: du -hs ~/.mozilla/firefox/* | sort -h
[04:34] <petrvs> if you have two profile dirs, the larger is likely your older one
[04:34] <trfsrfr> Cool, gimme a min or two
[04:35] <petrvs> the short way is to close firefox, then mv -n newprofile elsewhere; mv -n oldprofile newprofile
[04:35] <petrvs> but you can also run firefox -ProfileManager
[04:36] <petrvs> and point and click for ages
[04:36] <trfsrfr> petrvs, I am not so savvy. before I upgraded I saved them to an external HD.
[04:37] <trfsrfr> its a json file
[04:37] <petrvs> trfsrfr: that's pretty savvy
[04:37] <trfsrfr> petrvs, lol, thanks but I really dont know what im doing
[04:38] <petrvs> I usually open firefox and open bookmarks, and export to an html file if I thought of it ahead of time
[04:38] <petrvs> otherwise I just copy over the profile dir
[04:38] <[n0mad]> i'm not a firefox user really but they don't have like chrome where all your bookmarks stay with your firefox user?
[04:38] <trfsrfr> and that is the savvy that I am not
[04:38] <petrvs> [n0mad]: yup, in the profile dir
[04:39] <petrvs> unless you mean some chrome awfulness where all your personal data is on google servers :p
[04:39] <petrvs> f that
[04:39] <petrvs> trfsrfr: you only have .json files and not the whole profile, then?
[04:39] <trfsrfr> Its just a json file on an external HD that I dont know how to get into my new firefox
[04:40] <petrvs> trfsrfr: named what?
[04:40] <[n0mad]> haha, yeah, like that...i figured firefox had that same ability so you can sync firefox between systems/mobile/etc
[04:40] <petrvs> oh, yeah
[04:40] <trfsrfr> internet bookmarks-201504-08.json
[04:40] <petrvs> firefox sync
[04:40] <six_> How do i connect to WPA with Ubuntu on a DLink DWL-520+
[04:40] <petrvs> it's opt-in
[04:40] <petrvs> less awful things are opt-in
[04:40] <petrvs> trfsrfr: eh, did you rename that?
[04:41] <trfsrfr> yes
[04:41] <petrvs> trfsrfr: what's 'file' say it is?
[04:42] <trfsrfr> petrvs, you mean "file" in the unity bar?
[04:42] <petrvs> trfsrfr: no, from a terminal, 'file path/to/foo.json'
[04:42] <trfsrfr> you lost me
[04:43] <petrvs> trfsrfr: know how to open a terminal?
[04:43] <trfsrfr> yes
[04:43] <petrvs> trfsrfr: nevermind, we'll just assume it's the right thing
[04:43] <trfsrfr> petrvs, okay, lol
[04:43] <trfsrfr> now what?
[04:44] <petrvs> trfsrfr: open firefox, CTRL+SHIFT+o, Import and Backup, Restore
[04:44] <jmaradin> Ok, so it appears that the issue for me is that when I tried installing the gnome-desktop stuff on the ubuntu-server 14.04 install. I configured my actual work laptop to accept xdmcp connections and my normal stuff shows up on the desktop. Quite nicely too.
[04:45] <jmaradin> but when I copy those config files over to the "server" it does not work. Very weird.
[04:45] <petrvs> trfsrfr: next time I'd backup the whole profile dir, it's not that much data
[04:45] <petrvs> in fact the cost of storage these days, just backup all of /home/
[04:45] <trfsrfr> petrvs, you friggin rock! Thank you!
[04:45] <jmaradin> Oh well, I'm sure ill be reinstalling that server at some point. Ill make sure to install my DE at load time.
[04:45] <petrvs> trfsrfr: =)
[04:47] <trfsrfr> I wish I was as super cool as most of the peeps here. I already backed up everything prior to the upgrade, just needed the bookmarks.
[04:47] <petrvs> ah, gj
[04:47] <petrvs> super cool = thousands of lifetimes wasted
[04:47] <trfsrfr> LOl, yes indeed. Well said.
[04:56] <linocisco> i want to setup ubuntu webserver on virtualbox using dynamic dns. what do I do?
[04:57] <aeon-ltd> a lot of routing
[04:57] <petrvs> well, some routing
[04:58] <petrvs> set it up, then talk to #vbox
[04:58] <petrvs> it's not that bad, really
[04:58] <histo> linocisco: install it then install ddclient
[04:58] <linocisco> histo, that part is done
[04:59] <histo> linocisco: okay then install webserver of your choice. apache nginx whatever
[05:00] <linocisco> histo, then how to publish web and how can public access my webserver on vbbox Guest?
[05:03] <six_> Why would a DLink DWL-520+ be crashing ubuntu (when connecting to router - no security on router)?
[05:03] <petrvs> linocisco: the dyndns client will take care of that
[05:03] <petrvs> six_: crashing?
[05:03] <six_> yup
[05:03] <petrvs> define
[05:04] <six_> sends it "terminal" or whatever, cant use keyboard.
[05:04] <six_> with a bunch of error messages
[05:04] <six_> tried with Ubuntu 11.04 and 14.04 Live
[05:08] <DerRaiden> morning/morgen
[05:09] <histo> linocisco: you need to setup your network conneciton in vbox settings to get it's own ip from your router. Then you need to tell your router to forward all incoming web traffic (port 80) to the ip of the vbox guest
[05:13] <dcrouch> Looking to mimic a backup that was done through another service.  I'm finding the following missing from tar --one-file-system --numeric-owner  I see them both mentioned here.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR   Is there something additional I can add to tar to allow more support?
[05:14] <linocisco> histo, i have only local ip, but on router or firewall or proxy or whatever device at office , i dont have access. I would like to make sure if something on the path is clear or reachable in out or not before I proceed everything. which tools on ubuntu might be best to test?
[05:24] <dima666> hey anybody sitting in #css channel?
[05:41] <basichash> Is there a cli network utility that shows download speed / ping?
[05:42] <trfsrfr> wow! just upgraded from 13.04 to 14.04, went online to a youtube video and it locked up. Mouse still worked, but nothing else. Had to do a hard shutdown. This was the initial test run of the new OS. Any thoughts?
[05:42] <andrey_> h
[05:45] <digitsm> Hello
[05:45] <digitsm> I have added xorg-edgers PPA to support my new nvidia GTX 750ti graphic card
[05:45] <digitsm> But I guess that there are more than just "nvidia-346" packages out there
[05:46] <digitsm> I fear that those new (unstable) packages break my whole pc
[05:46] <digitsm> Is there any way to only install nvidia driver (and related packages) from xorg-edgers PPA and not something else?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:58] <sjm> basichash, bwm-ng?
[06:04] <cayphed> Hey, anyone here?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> cayphed: 1700 users are
[06:05] <basichash> sjm: does it have a good UI?
[06:05] <cayphed> Thanks lotuspsychje, was wondering if I got in ok.
[06:08] <basichash> what's the best browser for ubuntu? Chrome's great, but its memory use is out of control
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | basichash
[06:09] <basichash> lotuspsychje: is that chromium-bsu (package)?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> basichash: bsu?
[06:10] <basichash> lotuspsychje: apt-get says no 'chromium' is available, but is referred to by 'chromium-bsu' and 'chromium-bsu:i386'
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> basichash: did you read the packagename i just triggered to you?
[06:12] <basichash> lotuspsychje: thanks
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> basichash: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[06:12] <basichash> lotuspsychje: got it
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> basichash: if you want a really more lightweight browsing, you can try links2 also (from terminal)
[06:13] <basichash> lotuspsychje: terminal-based like lynx?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> basichash: yes
 What has went wrong with my install??? 3-4 times the same things happen, ben installing for over an week now!!... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54txAN1v5-o
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !info links2 | basichash
[06:14] <basichash> lotuspsychje: ah i need it for dev, has to be a proper GUI
[06:14] <Ben64> kris_: ask #debian ... this channel is for Ubuntu only
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> basichash: ok
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | basichash try this one also for smoother program loading
[06:21] <basichash> lotuspsychje: what does it do exactly?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> basichash: it preloads your programs, for smoother use of it
[06:25] <basichash> lotuspsychje: ah sweet, cheers
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> basichash: np, it needs a reboot to make the deamon run
[06:30] <gunndawg> I'm kind of new to linux and wondering what the linux-headers and  linux-generic updates are that just came thru? Just generic system updates  or what?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: those are kernel updates mate
[06:31] <gunndawg> ah ok
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: thats normal, and will need a reboot after
[06:31] <gunndawg> very well. thank you lotuspsychje
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: if you need anything on ubuntu just ask here :p
[06:32] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: will do, thanks again bud.
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[06:32] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: actually one more question. Does it matter if I use the Update Center or apt-get upgrade? both found 'em
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: you can do both ways: update icon, or sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal
[06:33] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: so same results, gotcha. thank you
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: but automatic updates via the icon are handy, to know when new updates are available
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: the fastest way would be manually daily updates tru terminal, sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:36] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: that's what I tend to do, several times a day actually just incase something comes thru
[06:36] <gunndawg> is the update center just a GUI front end for apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: well on ubuntu you are pretty safe default, more then daily updates are not requiered
[06:37] <S|{ip> Hi Guys, I'm after some help in configuring OpenSSHServer to run applications through to a SSH client (Putty on Windows). Enabled X11Forwarding yes in SSHD_config but receiveing Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: yes
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | S|{ip
[06:37] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: very well.
[06:38] <S|{ip> !sshd
[06:41] <gunndawg> Well that kernel update did something GREAT, though unexpected and cant make sense of it
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: what happened
[06:42] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: I've never had GRUB come up and ask me if I want to boot to Windows 7(on a completely separate HDD), or Ubuntu. I've always had to go into BIOS and change the default boot drive. This makes it easier. But why would a kernel update suddenly present me with a GRUB loader?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: you change dualboot Os loading with bios?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: this is just why they invented grub to make things easier switch the Os you want to boot
[06:44] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: I've changed nothing. If I ever needed Windows I'd just go into bios and change boot option #1 to my Windows 7 HDD, It's always just booted to my first Boot Device #1. Now GRUB loader actually asks me
[06:45] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: I understand what its purpose is. What I'm trying to figure out is why all of a sudden its showing up?
[06:45] <gunndawg> I've been using this install of Ubuntu for about 3 weeks now and never once saw a GRUB loader until I re booted after that kernel update
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: did you try more then 1 reboot, sometimes it shows up an dissapears
[06:45] <gunndawg> no I only did the 1 reboot after the updates installed.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: try another one first plz
[06:46] <gunndawg> will do, brb
[06:46] <OerHeks> maybe you pressed shift during boot, that would show the grubmenu
[06:48] <gunndawg> sure enough it came up again, I ddint press anything. I'm glad it does though, just not sure why ALL OF A SUDDEN, heh
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: then you might wanna edit grub then and sudo update-grub after and reboot
[06:49] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: why?
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: to edit the grub timeout
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> so it doesnt show anymore
[06:49] <gunndawg> I told you that I want it to. I think its GREAT
[06:49] <gunndawg> I've wanted it to come up
[06:49] <gunndawg> but never had it
[06:50] <gunndawg> What I am trying to figure out is why it started to come up after that kernel update? I've always wanted it to come up, but it never has. Now after I update kernel it comes up
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: wait, you want a grub every boot?
[06:51] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: It doesnt bother me. In the event I need to boot into another OS, it could be handy, unless you have a more efficient way?
[06:51] <gunndawg> I guess every reboot might be a bit much, what are the other options?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: you make it all harder on yourself mate, with that bios trick
[06:52] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: I agree, that's why I'm happy that GRUB comes up. I think we're not understanding each other
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: the way i would do this, is edit grub to 2sec and edit grub to load your Os you want
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: if you still want, the other Os you still got 2sec
[06:53] <gunndawg> alright, how would I go about editing grub?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> !grub | gunndawg
[06:54] <gunndawg> so sudo into etc/default/grub
[06:54] <gunndawg> I"ll look around
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: and sudo update-grub after you edit
[06:56] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: so it's the Hidden_timeout I want to set, right?
[06:56] <gunndawg> its currently at 0
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> gunndawg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148095/how-do-i-set-the-grub-timeout-and-the-grub-default-boot-entry
[06:58] <gunndawg> alright thanks
[06:59] <gunndawg> lotuspsychje: Now if I can only get the Plymouth animation and login box/screen to appear on my primary monitor once booted I'll be set (until the next issues), heh
[07:01] <digitsm> Hello
[07:01] <digitsm> I have to PCs having nvidia gtx 750 ti
[07:02] <digitsm> I installed nvidia-346 on both
[07:02] <digitsm> On my xubuntu everything went ok, but when I want to update, it wants to update ~80MBs
[07:03] <digitsm> I am sure that most those updates are from xorg-edgers PPA
[07:03] <digitsm> I want to know whether those updates may be dangerous and unstable?
[07:04] <digitsm> And what could I do to not update anything else from xorg-edgers PPA except nvidia drivers?
[07:04] <S|{ip> Any reconmendations of a file manager application to run on X over SSH ?
[07:04] <gunndawg> remove the PPA?
[07:04] <digitsm> gunndawg, Hmmm. yeah, simple idea
[07:05] <digitsm> gunndawg, If I remove the PPA  and ubuntu update its kernel, is it possible to I encouter problem?
[07:05] <OerHeks> digitsm, why would updates be bad?
[07:05] <digitsm> Hello OerHeks. Nice to chat you!
[07:06] <OerHeks> and currently there are a lot of updates, firefox, kernel, and more
[07:06] <digitsm> OerHeks, Because xorg-edgers is on the edges. So it's not stable any more
[07:07] <digitsm> OerHeks, I installed 14.04.1 LTS to become stable
[07:07] <digitsm> I am an android developer, and doesn't have time to correct problems made by updates in the future
[07:07] <MadLamb> does any knows why this doesnt work for me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/53119/how-do-i-kill-a-locked-ssh-session
[07:07] <[Saint]> LTS != "stable"
[07:07] <[Saint]> People need to learn that.
[07:07] <OerHeks> current is 14.04.2 so you might get more updates.
[07:08] <digitsm> [Saint], But debian stable (wheezy) has very old packages. I can't use that for development
[07:08] <Ben64> digitsm: what is your actual issue
[07:09] <digitsm> Ben64, Hello ben
[07:09] <[Saint]> pebcak
[07:09] <[Saint]> in a word.
[07:09] <OerHeks> MadLamb, did you try "~. [enter] " too ?
[07:09] <linocisco> histo, ?
[07:09] <histo> linocisco: ?
[07:09] <MadLamb> OerHeks, yes, i hit enter and nothing happens. the terminal is completely frozen
[07:09] <basichash> What's a good tool for diagnosing my connection? I've currently downloading tweets from twitters api, but everytime after several thousand have been downloaded my node app just stops. How can i troubleshoot this?
[07:10] <linocisco> histo,I am now installing ubuntu server and now at the stage of tasksel
[07:10] <basichash> (other websites are still accessible, despite the the download stream stopping)
[07:10] <histo> linocisco: if you don't have access to the router to forward web traffic to the vm or whatever machine you choose. You are going no where.
[07:10] <linocisco> histo, i selected only openssh server, and LAMP. is it enough to install webserver?
[07:10] <[Saint]> basichash: that doesn't sound like your issue - that sounds like rate limiting.
[07:10] <MadLamb> OerHeks, oh it just unfrozen now. I'm not sure it was because of me issuing commands or something else. ill try again next time. thx anyway.
[07:10] <histo> linocisco: yes but see my previous comments about forwarding the traffic via the router.
[07:11] <histo> linocisco: how is the outside world going to get to this box?
[07:12] <linocisco> histo, myname.ddns.net is working
[07:12] <linocisco> histo, using local ip
[07:12] <digitsm> Ben64, I have many issues: 1. I want to become stable, I fear future updates (not related to nvidia) may break my ubuntu in the future. 2. I have to connect to internet through VPN, and by using that VPN connecting to PPA get very slow. Last night I partially updated my second ubuntu (unity) after installing nvidia driver on it, and boom, it doesn't boot any more 3. I nuked my second ubuntu (unity). I have btrfs snapshot of a correct state, but I can't eve
[07:12] <digitsm> n boot to linux to roll back to it
[07:12] <histo> linocisco: right which hits the router but not the box behind it right
[07:12] <digitsm> Ben64, By future updates I mean those from xorg-edgers
[07:13] <histo> linocisco: you need to tell the router to forward web traffic to the internal ip of server
[07:13] <linocisco> histo, no. it hits until my Host machine that host my Virtual Ubutu server guest
[07:13] <histo> linocisco: setup virtualbox to pull another ip on the guest.  Bridged connection under networking
[07:13] <basichash> [Saint]: ah got you
[07:13] <linocisco> histo, yes. i did already
[07:14] <Ben64> digitsm: 1. updates are good 2. then don't use the vpn? 3.  btrfs is not really the best choice
[07:14] <histo> linocisco: then why would the web traffic be hitting your host?
[07:14] <basichash> [Saint]: the thing is though, that if i restart the application then it continues downloaded without any issues
[07:14] <histo> linocisco: you need to port forward 80 to your guest's ip
[07:15] <linocisco> histo, installation of ubuntu webserver is still not finished. now installing grub
[07:15] <linocisco> loader
[07:15] <[Saint]> basichash: it would get a new response code then, and be a "new" session, no?
[07:16] <[Saint]> basichash: IIRC I hit a rate limiting snafu with Twitter a while back, but I can't recall offhand if there's easily googleable limits definied.
[07:16] <basichash> [Saint]: if that's the case, is there a way to automate the restarting of my app when it hits that limit?
[07:16] <[Saint]> From memory rate limits get evaluated on a case-by-case basis, so I may be marking up the wrong tree.
[07:17] <[Saint]> *barking, even.
[07:17] <[Saint]> lets see what Twitter has to say.
[07:17] <[Saint]> https://dev.twitter.com/rest/public/rate-limiting
[07:17] <digitsm> Ben64, 1. Once I updated to kernel 3.16 and I couldn't install nvidia driver on it anymore. For a developer updates are not necessarily good 2. I don't have any other choice than VPN now! 3. I know ext4 adn xfs are more stable than btrfs, but because I am a developer, sometime I install so much packages and many configs.  However, we're not there yet.
[07:21] <[Saint]> We're not even close.
[07:21] <deadmau5> sup
[07:21] <basichash> [Saint]: so are there no rate limits for the streaming api: "without having to worry about polling or REST API rate limits" -> tps://dev.twitter.com/streaming/public
[07:22] <deadmau5> borrrrrrriinngg
[07:23] <deadmau5> i like linux chat better
[07:23] <[Saint]> Oh ohhh, edgy techno name guy thinks we're boring.
[07:24] <linocisco> hi all , i have configured static network address under /etc/network/interface but it is not updated using /etc/init.d/networking restart and ip addr
[07:24] <linocisco> what do I do?
[07:24] <Faylite> Comes to a support chat, says it's boring *facepalm*
[07:26] <Haris> hello all
[07:26] <Haris> how to upgade individual packages ?
[07:26] <Haris> upgrade+
[07:26] <Haris> I tried aptitude upgrade package-name, apt-get -u <package-name>. it doesn't work
[07:26] <Flannel> Haris: `sudo apt-get install foo` will update the package `foo` to the latest version
[07:27] <Haris> ah ok
[07:27] <[Saint]> "apt-get install --only-upgrade $package_name_here"
[07:28] <basichash> anyone here involved with big data?
[07:28]  * [Saint] points out Flannel isn't wrong either, and neither is he, it's just two different "right"s.
[07:28] <histo> basichash: big data?
[07:28] <[Saint]> Haris: I'll point out the difference, though, as there is one.
[07:28] <histo> linocisco: is this on a desktop?
[07:29] <basichash> histo: analysing large datasets
[07:29] <linocisco> histo, no server
[07:29] <[Saint]> My version will *only* upgrade that package.
[07:29] <histo> basichash: whats your question
[07:29] <[Saint]> Flannel's version will install new packages as well.
[07:29] <[Saint]> like new recommends, etc. not necessarily required.
[07:30] <histo> linocisco: do you have dhcp-client installed?
[07:30] <BBLLCC> what 3 keys do I have to press to change the application I am using?
[07:30] <BBLLCC> or the active window
[07:31] <BBLLCC> ctrl alt caps?
[07:31] <linocisco> histo, how can I check?
[07:31] <[Saint]> this one, that one, and the other one.
[07:31] <Ben64> BBLLCC: alt+tab ? or am i reading your question wrong
[07:31] <linocisco> histo, i m getting auto dhcp ip
[07:31] <histo> linocisco: dpkg -l | grep dhcp
[07:31] <linocisco> histo, but I have changed in inteface file manually
[07:31] <BBLLCC> thanks Ben64
[07:32] <linocisco> histo, yes. i have
[07:32] <histo> linocisco: pastebin your interfaces file
[07:32] <basichash> histo: i want to get into big data / machine learning / dat analysis. I've been downloading tweets from twitters stream for the last day, wondering how i can get into this field using this data
[07:34] <histo> basichash: this is not the right place. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:35] <histo> linocisco: your interfaces files is most likely messed up
[07:35] <linocisco> histo, why?
[07:37] <digitsm> [Saint], What if I break my root?
[07:37] <digitsm> Isn't btrfs better for having snapshots?
[07:40] <digitsm> [Saint], On my broken btrfs ubuntu installation my btrfs file system and snapshots are completely healthy. The only problem is that grub can't find the btrfs root
[07:42] <linocisco> histo, i rebooted. now ok
[07:45] <Haris> how can one see a list of packages on a repo ?
[07:45] <Haris> I need to see a list of packages from datastax repo to check which version of apache cassandra is available for install
[07:46] <TheNumb> Haris: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[07:46] <htqp> digitsm: what happens? grub prompt?
[07:46] <Haris> wildcards work ?
[07:46] <TheNumb> try
[07:48] <htqp> apt-cache policy pkg* searches for package names containing 'pkg' (imho it's counterintuitive since it looks as a trailing wildcard, but...)
[07:48] <Haris> how can I tell apt-get/aptitude which version of the package to install ?
[07:48] <Haris> I need cassandra 2.0.14, dsc20 for this install
[07:49] <Haris> version table has a lot of stuff in it
[07:49] <Haris> but no package names that I can put in the command
[07:50] <Haris> ah, packagename=version from man page
[07:50] <Ben64> i'm not seeing any package called cassandra
[07:54] <franco__> ciao tutto bene
[07:54] <OerHeks> !it | franco__
[08:14]  * twistedcheshire came in here to ask a question, got here, and now can't remember what the question was.
[08:15] <phix> twistedcheshire: hehe
[08:16] <phix> maybe it wasn;t that important
[08:16] <twistedcheshire> Well if I took the time to get on IRC, then it had to have been. Damnit! LOL
[08:16] <ebonics> anyone know why jpeg files would be appearing as flat black images, but show up properly when displayed with imagemagick or after using convert on them?
[08:17] <phix> ebonics: the decoder isnt installed?
[08:18] <digitsm> htqp: Could you please help me recover my grub/kernel back?
[08:20] <wowa_s> asdfas
[08:20] <wowa_s> fdsa
[08:25] <ebonics> phix, no that's not the problem :/
[08:26] <ebonics> it seems that the image is corrupted somehow, even though it has never been modified on that box
[08:27] <geirha> what does identify say about it?
[08:36] <jzp113> hi  someone know RFID
[08:38] <inerkick> Hi I got Ricoh, printer. But when I connect that with my ubuntu 14.04 installed laptop and give any print, it just keeps showing processing. But not works. Anyone could help me here . please?
[08:40] <Haris> guys, need help -> http://pastebin.ca/2969747
[08:45] <Haris> its not selinux but something is stopped from ntp being installed or worked up
[08:48] <Haris> selinux is disabled on this box. I should not be getting this error msg
[08:56] <survietamine> hello, because we have a lot of machines, we want to pin versions of some packages, but after "apt-get update", older pinned version may become unavailable.
[08:56] <survietamine> I can see that firefox 36.0.4 is still available on launchpad : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/firefox
[08:57] <survietamine> how can I add this into Apt sources.list ?
[09:02] <OerHeks> survietamine, bad idea to pinning a browser
[09:05] <shiv> hi
[09:05] <shiv> anyone thr
[09:05] <shiv> can anyone let me know that snmp tree browser using a mib file
[09:12] <ANJ7> anyone would like to join me at ##Godhelps ?
[09:13] <TheNumb> no
[09:14] <cfhowlett> ANJ7, no
[09:14] <ANJ7> ok, ignore if no
[09:14] <cfhowlett> ANJ7, channel topic is ubuntu support, please
[09:14] <OerHeks> ANJ7, please keep this channel free for ubuntu support, thanks.
[09:15] <ANJ7> oh, ok
[09:16] <TheNumb> ANJ7: for offtopic join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:17] <survietamine> OerHeks: yes, it is bad, but some dev asked us to pin it
[09:18] <Giwrgaras> virtual box does not have a graphics card ? can i play games in it?
[09:18] <survietamine> OerHeks: so, if older releases are downloadable from launchpad.net, can I add some lines in sources.list ?
[09:18] <ANJ7>
[09:18] <survietamine> OerHeks: I don't feel comfortable with launchpad and ppa
[09:20] <OerHeks> survietamine, not that i know of, usually we download tru apt-get. and apt-get does not give FF 36
[09:20] <k1l> Giwrgaras: virtualbox only simulates hardware to the guest OS inside the vbox. that is the idea behind all that. install the guest additions. but performance will never be like the native performance
[09:21] <OerHeks> survietamine, you can try to pinn firefox in softwarecenter, but that would give security issues, you don't want that.
[09:21] <metaphysician> How can I play vp9 videos in 14.04?
[09:21] <survietamine> OerHeks: yeah, I know that. To update our thousands of computers, we have a apt proxy. But after "apt-get update", the pinned old version is not available anymore
[09:21] <faust> survietamine: you really shouldn't use FF36 or any older firefox version
[09:21] <survietamine> faust: I don't want to use it, but developers that we use apps from don't allow use to update our browsers versions
[09:22] <survietamine> faust: so, I need some releases in all our park
[09:22] <shiv> can anyone let me know that snmp tree browser using a mib file
[09:22] <faust> survietamine:  o.o change your developers
[09:22] <geirha> survietamine: sounds like you'll want to create your own repository then, which you include in sources.list in addition to the official ones
[09:23] <survietamine> geirha: ah ok, thank you. My question was if I can see that this old version is available on this page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/firefox/36.0.4+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> I can add sources.list line
[09:24] <survietamine> geirha: but it seems that it is only for manual downloads
[09:24] <survietamine> do you guys know how landscape works about packages management?
[09:25] <survietamine> we did write our own package management for our park, but with this mess that older versions are not available after "apt-get update", it is broken
[09:31] <hugopereira> i have a pproblem with my ubuntu: "waiting for network connection", on cryptsetup
[09:31] <hugopereira> anybody can help?
[09:31] <v4l> yes i can
[09:32] <v4l> how are you
[09:32] <hugopereira> fine and u?
[09:32] <Mp3InThehouse> i have the problem waiting for net conn
[09:32] <Mp3InThehouse> i have chang network conf interface and all
[09:34] <codeic> hi all
[09:36] <Anf> Guten Tag kurze frage, wo kann ich nachschauen, auf welche partition ich Ubuntu installiert habe, und wie groß die ist?
[09:37] <k1l> Anf: #ubuntu-de ist der deutsche kanal
[09:37] <OerHeks> Anf, sudo fdisk -l
[09:38] <Anf> Danke
[09:41] <Anf> kleine frage noch, wen ich Ubuntu installiere, mach ich ja eine Swap Partition, eine /Home Partition und eine System Partition, jetzt hab ich mir einen NAS zugelegt und möchte alle Daten auf den NAS haben, somit brauch ich die /Home Partition nicht mehr, wen ich jetzt Ubuntu Neue Installiere, ohne der /Home Partition, wo werden die Daten im Home Ordnern gespeichert?
[09:43] <k1l> Anf: dieses ist der englische kanal, der deutsche ist #ubuntu-de
[09:45] <Anf> Upps, Sorry.
[09:53] <Lemongrab-> hi. using nvidia-settings, i set the preferred res, save to xorg.conf, verify that the config file has been written, reboot, and the changes do not take effect. so to clarify, any customised settings revert to defaults on restart, even though the new xorg.conf is intact. anyone know anything that might help?
[09:54] <metaphysician> In trusty, which media player can play VP9 video format?
[09:54] <Haris> guys, need help -> http://pastebin.ca/2969747 . its not selinux but something is stopped from ntp being installed or worked up. selinux is disabled on this box. I should not be getting this error msg
[09:56] <Haris> pasting again -> http://pastebin.ca/2969763
[09:56] <Haris> stopped=stopping
[09:56] <Lemongrab-> here's the xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/iupYhprU - does it look ok to you? all i want is to set res to 1360x768
[09:59] <OerHeks> metaphysician, VLC 2.1.2 supports VP9 by default
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> Haris  first: cassandra is debian, diabel that repo and see if the error still occurs
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> disable*
[10:00] <Haris> that didn't make sense
[10:00] <Haris> cassandra 2.0.14 is installed. This didn't stop cassandra
[10:01] <Haris> Is this needed for making ntp get handled successfully ?
[10:01] <metaphysician> OerHeks: in a webm container? I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10781342/
[10:01] <Haris> I .. don't know how to disable a repo
[10:01] <k1l> Haris: that is not from the official ubuntu repos. so please ask the cassandra guys what is wrong there
[10:02] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, vp8 is listed ... don't see vp9 listed https://wiki.videolan.org/Codec/
[10:02] <Haris> the problem is not with Cassandra. the problem is with ntp
[10:02] <Haris> cassandra is done .. installed .. working. all good
[10:03] <Haris> ntp is not getting installed, having problem, because of a library that it can't access
[10:03] <k1l> Haris: you obviously install 3rd party stuff that is breaking your ubuntu system.
[10:03] <Haris> and selinux is disabled on this box
[10:03] <Haris> *sigh*, what does third party repo stuff have to do with ntp, which comes from ubuntu not being able to access a library, which is also not related
[10:04] <Lemongrab-> hi. using nvidia-settings, i set the preferred res, save to xorg.conf, verify that the config file has been written, reboot, and the changes do not take effect. so to clarify, any customised settings revert to defaults on restart, even though the new xorg.conf is intact. here's the xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/iupYhprU - does it look ok to you? all i want is to set res to 1360x768
[10:04] <OerHeks> Haris cassandra_2.0.14 is over a year old ..
[10:04] <Haris> installing cassandra from datastax debian repo does not break ubuntu
[10:04] <ZAKhan> can anyone help me out wih KVM issues?
[10:04] <Haris> OerHeks: Yes, its old. but ubuntu is LTS
[10:04] <Haris> and is not broken
[10:04] <OerHeks> Haris, seems to break the install, no ?
[10:04] <Haris> how ?
[10:05] <Haris> ntp can't access a library on this box. its a permissions issue as the log msg says
[10:05] <Haris> something related to selinux or the like
[10:05] <Haris> nothing from base is in conflict
[10:06] <k1l> Haris: apt-cache policy ntp
[10:06] <TheNumb> OerHeks: cassandra 2.0.14 is *the stable* release.
[10:06] <TheNumb> And it's recommended for use in production environments.
[10:06] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/2969766
[10:06] <darius93> i have a small problem. i am trying to assign a qemu vm with a static ip. So far, I was able to assign one to it, but there is no connection. I cant ping any ip. Any clue why?
[10:07] <Haris> I have a crash log in /var/crash. Should I post it ? its size is: 100168
[10:08] <Haris> post = paste
[10:08] <Haris>  [2594959.501712] type=1400 audit(1428568662.589:16): apparmor="DENIED" operation="file_mmap" parent=28021 profile="/usr/sbin/ntpd" name="/tmp/upgrade-rw-LGvRYH/usr/lib/libopts.so.25.10.0" pid=28036 comm="ntpd" requested_mask="m" denied_mask="m" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[10:08] <Haris> this is one line at the end of ntp crash report
[10:09] <Haris> getenforce was not installed, so I installed selinux-utils and checked. selinux is Disabled
[10:10] <Haris> so cant say why ntp won't be able to access a library that is clearly present on this box
[10:10] <k1l> Haris: what box is it?
[10:10] <k1l> what special setup?
[10:10] <Haris> ?
[10:11] <Haris> how can I allow ntp file_mmap operation on this box ?
[10:11] <Haris> that's the Q
[10:11] <k1l> no the question is what did you change to your setup to get that issue?
[10:12] <Haris> I just installed cassandra 2.0.14 and dsc20 (datastax community version)
[10:12] <Haris> even if I uninstall them, I suspect this won't change a thing
[10:12] <Haris> it has nothing to do with ntp not being able to access a library and be able to do its work
[10:13] <Haris> is there a way to check consistency of package db
[10:13] <Haris> or something, to make sure it is in consistent state
[10:13] <colby_> Hey folks, Linux noob here. I was wondering if someone could help me upgrade GnuPG to version 2 in Ubunto for Enigamail?
[10:14] <Haris> perhaps a reinstall of ntp might give more clue ?
[10:14] <OerHeks> !info gnupg2
[10:14] <Haris> what package does libopts.so.25 come with ?
[10:15] <OerHeks> !find libopts
[10:16] <metaphysician> OerHeks: Looks like VLC 2.1.6 supports VP9 only on Windows.
[10:16] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:17] <Haris> morning
[10:17] <k1l> Haris: what is the permissons on /usr/lib and that lib in particular?
[10:19] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/2969774
[10:19] <Haris> updating paste
[10:20] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/2969775
[10:22] <OerHeks> metaphysician, oh, i see, 2.2.0 surely does VP9 https://www.videolan.org/vlc/releases/2.2.0.html = current utopic version
[10:23] <Haris> hmm
[10:24] <Haris> where does audit log go ?
[10:24] <Haris> I don't have /var/log/audit or /var/log/audit/audit.log
[10:25] <DazPetty> does anyone have any tips on how I might destroy my system so that I can have some fun fixing it again, like some sort of malicious software? (I'm using a Virtual Machine and this is for practice)
[10:26] <TheNumb> DazPetty: no.
[10:26] <DazPetty> I'm thinking I might just run "rm -r *" and see what happends
[10:26] <Haris> another troll *sigh*
[10:26] <DazPetty> or maybe I'll just try to pull some kernal modules
[10:26] <DazPetty> Haris I'm not a troll
[10:26] <DazPetty> I'm running in a Virtual Machine
[10:27] <TheNumb> DazPetty: removing the kernel modules won't hurt you as long as you don't reboot.
[10:27] <cfhowlett> DazPetty, as you obviously know how to break your system, you didn't need to ask the question.  anything else?
[10:27] <DazPetty> and I need to practice some situations where the system has been broken somehow
[10:27] <IceBot3000> DazPetty: Leave SSH open as a public webserver, then wait approximately 10 minutes for the Chinese/Russian visitors
[10:27] <TheNumb> that
[10:27] <TheNumb> :D
[10:27] <sjoshi> :D
[10:27] <DazPetty> lol IceBot3000, unfortunatly I'm not on a virtual internet connection
[10:27] <TheNumb> DazPetty: also, /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:28] <DazPetty> someone in xubuntu suggested I make snapshots so I can just go set it up and destroy it without having to re-set it up
[10:28] <DazPetty> but ok I'll go to the OT room if you want TheNumb
[10:29] <k1l> Haris: sorry, dont know what is going wrong on your system. maybe you can try to install --reinstall ntp
[10:29] <Haris> tried and failed with it =(
[10:30] <metaphysician> OerHeks: I have latest ffmpeg (which supports VP9) installed from source. Can vlc/mplayer2/mpv use it?
[10:30] <Haris> I'm getting these msgs in /var/log/syslog, but selinux is not enabled. what can be making these deny actions ?
[10:30] <Haris> Apr  9 15:21:12 trac kernel: [2601155.170984] type=1400 audit(1428574872.169:36): apparmor="DENIED" operation="file_mmap" parent=29811 profile="/usr/sbin/ntpd" name="/tmp/upgrade-rw-LGvRYH/usr/lib/libopts.so.25.10.0" pid=29826 comm="ntpd" requested_mask="m" denied_mask="m" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[10:30] <OerHeks> metaphysician, vlc uses its own codecs AFAIK
[10:31] <OerHeks> metaphysician, try mplayer2 then, why ask me?
[10:31] <OerHeks> You have it set up, just a mouseclick away
[10:34] <Haris> let me see if uninstalling selinux/libs will help
[10:34] <TheNumb> Haris: why did you install selinux?
[10:35] <Haris> I didn't install it. I installed selinux-utils only, to check if selinux was enabled/disabled
[10:35] <TheNumb> Haris: by default there's no selinux in Ubuntu. Only AppArmor.
[10:35] <TheNumb> Haris: also, /tmp/upgrade-rw-LGvRYH/usr/lib/libopts.so.25.10.0 looks suspicious
[10:35] <Haris> hmm
[10:36] <Haris> I can *speculate* that this box was upgraded in the past
[10:39] <Haris> hmm
[10:40] <TheNumb> Haris: is there a /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.ntpd file?
[10:40] <Haris> I have /usr/lib and I have /tmp/upgrade-rw-LGvRYH/usr/lib
[10:40] <Haris> checking
[10:40] <Haris> yep, I have it
[10:41] <Haris> what can I do with it ?
[10:41] <TheNumb> Haris: try running apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.ntpd
[10:41] <TheNumb> and restart ntpd
[10:42] <Haris> it has no statements for libopt... though
[10:42] <Haris> same error
[10:42] <TheNumb> hmm
[10:42] <Haris> is there a way to change path for libopt for/in ntpd ?
[10:42] <Haris> no output for apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.ntpd
[10:42] <Haris> command finished instantly
[10:42] <TheNumb> The thing is, it shouldn't look in /tmp
[10:43] <[kweijia]> hello
[10:43] <TheNumb> Haris: it's ubuntu 14.04 right?
[10:44] <Haris> 12.x
[10:44] <TheNumb> hmm
[10:44] <[kweijia]> ;)
[10:44] <Haris> PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu precise (12.04.4 LTS)"
[10:44] <TheNumb> Haris: can you run md5sum `which ntpd`?
[10:44] <Haris> VERSION="12.04.4 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
[10:44] <TheNumb> Haris: also which version of ntpd?
[10:44] <TheNumb> dpkg -l ntp
[10:45] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/2969783   ,   http://pastebin.ca/2969782
[10:46] <Haris> iF  ntp                         1:4.2.6.p3+dfsg-1ubuntu3.3  Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs
[10:46] <Lemongrab-> hi. using nvidia-settings, i set the preferred res, save to xorg.conf, verify that the config file has been written, reboot, and the res is set to max available instead of my choice. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/QmzxRBT9 Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/dWD6YTcJ - can anyone help?
[10:46] <Haris> just tried to remove it some minutes back
[10:47] <TheNumb> Haris: can you paste the output of md5sum $(which ntpd)
[10:47] <Haris> ah yes
[10:47] <Haris> e3e0c3394a1b5b2fc6d6436c27995de2  /usr/sbin/ntpd
[10:47] <TheNumb> hmm, correct
[10:51] <TheNumb> Haris: can you also paste the output of apparmor_status?
[10:52] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/2969785
[10:54] <Haris> perhaps I can cahnge path from /usr/lib to /tmp/upgrade-something/usr/lib and see what happens ?
[10:54] <Haris> in the apparmor profile file
[10:54] <Haris> but dont know how to
[10:55] <TheNumb> Haris: have you tried upgrading the system?
[10:55] <Haris> not eyt
[10:55] <Haris> not yet
[10:55] <Haris> do-dist-upgrade ?
[10:55] <TheNumb> the /tmp/upgrade-* folder is created when upgrading the distribution
[10:55] <Haris> I can try now
[10:55] <TheNumb> Don't.
[10:55] <Haris> perhaps it'll help
[10:56] <Haris> hmm
[10:56] <Haris> after upgrade, the /tmp/upgrade-* should be sorted on its own ?
[10:56] <TheNumb> Haris: did you run do-release-upgrade?
[10:56] <Haris> not yet
[10:56] <TheNumb> Somebody did.
[10:56] <Haris> I'm going to though
[10:57] <Haris> running it now
[10:57] <TheNumb> brb
[10:58] <Haris> should I press yes on continue ?
[10:59] <Haris> I hate forgetting screen at times
[11:03] <Haris> after upgrade the /tmp/upgrade-* paths should be gone or not referenced anymore ?
[11:03] <Haris> hopefully
[11:04] <Haris> till this point, I believe, a clean upgrade is possible
[11:04] <chotaz`w> Hey guys, I'm having a little problem with my 'network interfaces' in ubuntu 14.10? anyone with previous experience in this?
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> chotaz`w  let's hear it
[11:05] <dasjoe> !ask
[11:06] <chotaz`w> whenever I turn the laptop on, crypt setup tries connecting to "networks interfaces" and just hangs there for a bit, after logging in the tray button says it isnt conencted to the network manager, but I clearly have internet access I just cant manage my interfaces/conenctions
[11:06] <chotaz`w> I have no clue what's causing this or how to further debug this, but Im mostly sure it isn't intended behaviour(?)
[11:07] <TheNumb> Haris: after a successful upgrade the temporary files should be removed, yes.
[11:07] <dasjoe> chotaz`w: you probably have a network configuration in /etc/network/interfaces. Any interfaces configured there are not configurable via Network Manager
[11:08] <Haris> do-release-upgrade working in screen session. downloading files..
[11:08] <Haris> upgrading to 14.x LTS
[11:08] <Haris> trusty
[11:08] <chotaz`w> dasjoe, well, these are preconfigured dell laptops from our workplace, and none of my colleagues seem to be having the same issue, how can I figured out "what's changed" for me?
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> chotaz`w  my idea too: conflicting fix IP address with network manager
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> chotaz`w  omat the preconfiguration
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> omit*
[11:09] <dasjoe> chotaz`w: check /etc/network/interfaces, that file should not contain interface definitions
[11:09] <chotaz`w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10781810/
[11:10] <chotaz`w> I've copied this file from a colleague which setup runs smoothly and restarted my machine, no bueno.
[11:10] <chotaz`w> or rather it's contents*
[11:16] <chotaz`w> actually, this was my previous configuration: http://pastebin.com/hrpHjjjJ but even after commenting the "new configurations" which I dont really know if could cause the issue or not, and leaving just the default lines, it's still happening
[11:16] <giuseppe_> cpao italiani
[11:16] <chotaz`w> everyboot I hang for a bit at "waiting for network configurations"
[11:16] <OerHeks> !it | Guest99136
[11:16] <Guest99136> italianiiii
[11:18] <Haris> I have 2 screen sessions. both are attached. and I can't attach to them. What can I do to get them back ? lol
[11:19] <mcphail> Haris: screen -r -D
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> Haris  screen -list, then: screen -dr [session name]
[11:20] <Haris> ok, I got one back. Now I can't detach it. lol
[11:20] <Haris> Ctrl+A D doesn't work
[11:20] <Haris> in the screen session running do-release-upgrade
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> i wonder how one can struggle with 'screen'
[11:20] <Haris> I agree
[11:20] <Haris> 787 packages downloaded and counting
[11:21] <thexenith> Hello, I'm having an issue installing a game from CD. UT2K4 has a "linux-installer.sh" file on the disk, I can't set it to allow execution, and sudo ./linux-installer.sh gives a command not found error.
[11:21] <Haris> nope, detaching screen session doesn't work when do-release-upgrade is running
[11:21] <BluesKaj> the use sudo sh pathtofile
[11:22] <BluesKaj> thexenith,^
[11:22] <mcphail> thexenith: try "sh ./yourscript.sh"
[11:22] <kris_pol> can anyone can help me with direct x 9.0 ?
[11:22] <thexenith> Just ran it and it appears to be running. Epic games has a sense of humor, haha
[11:23] <mcphail> kris_pol: unlikely as this is an Ubuntu support channel
[11:23] <BluesKaj> ask in #windows
[11:23] <Haris> kris_pol: there are channels for windows stuff. go there
[11:25] <OerHeks> kris_pol, if it is a wine issue, join #winehq
[11:25] <kris_pol> how they can help me on windows channel if I installed this on ubuntu using wine?
[11:25] <OerHeks> !wine
[11:25] <Haris> ah ok
[11:26] <Haris> more than 900 packages
[11:27] <thexenith> okay, how can I force a CD to mount?
[11:27] <kris_pol> after installation system showed me couple of errors, most propably easy to solve for advanced linux users
[11:27] <Haris> do-release-upgrade will conserve previous config files for all pacakges ?
[11:28] <TheNumb> Haris: should
[11:28] <TheNumb> Haris: but always make backups
[11:28] <OerHeks> thexenith, same for you, join #winehq for applicationhelp with ut2k4
[11:28] <mcphail> Haris: I think you get offered the option to keep/edit/replace
[11:29] <Haris> this is a development box
[11:29] <Haris> no backups at present
[11:29] <OerHeks> no backup = no worry
[11:29] <Haris> dumb Q: does one have to rebuild the kernel to extend number of FDs from 1024 to something like 400000 or more
[11:30] <Haris> have=has
[11:30] <TheNumb> no
[11:30] <faust> Haris: you may want to look at /etc/security/limits.conf
[11:30] <TheNumb> limits.conf is your friend
[11:30] <Haris> in the past I'v had boxes running apache with more than 1000 domains, and it would complain about open files
[11:35] <Haris> did get a msg about install being broken at one point, but its still moving on
[11:35] <Haris> its screen, so copying putty session didn't help
[11:35] <milosz96> no
[11:35] <milosz96> xd
[11:35] <Haris> should have started screen with -h 10000
[11:36] <Haris> it was just with one package, that I got that msg. upgrade is proceeding
[11:36] <Haris> does do-release-upgrade make a log ?
[11:36] <Haris> Its common sense
[11:37] <Haris> where would be the right Q
[11:37] <TheNumb> probably in /var/log
[11:37] <TheNumb> ;]
[11:37] <TheNumb> Like all the other logs
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> Haris  out of curiosity, what is your linux background?
[11:37] <Haris> 14 years of work experience
[11:37] <Haris> by hand
[11:37] <Haris> and some little reading
[11:38] <Haris> I just ask too many dumb Qs
[11:39] <Haris> because of little reading
[11:39] <davevanloo> there are no dumb questions Haris :)
[11:40] <TheNumb> The question itself is not dumb.
[11:40] <TheNumb> The person asking it might be.
[11:40] <Haris> ntp is the only thing that failed, in the Setting up... \nInstalling new version... stage
[11:41] <Haris> all the rest seems to have gone well
[11:43] <Eightynine> Hi. I'm using Chrome on Ubuntu Gnome, I minimized Chrome window and got white strip on desktop. Then I restored Chrome window and now it freezed. When I'm clicking right mouse button it's not responding, I can't neither close nor create new tab in Chrome.
[11:43] <TheNumb> Eightynine: killing the gnome process might help.
[11:43] <Haris> for keeping /etc/sudoers in upgrade, what's the difference between N and O ?
[11:43] <davevanloo> Eightynine, open the tasksmanager of your distro and kill the process
[11:43] <TheNumb> Haris: did you modify the file?
[11:43] <Eightynine> It's Gnome's issue?
[11:44] <Haris> its been modified
[11:44] <TheNumb> Eightynine: could be gnome, gpu drivers, and chrome at the same time.
[11:44] <davevanloo> it might be hanging for a large ammount of reasons.. if it happens again it might be an issue.. otherwise.. your ok.. :)
[11:44] <Haris> I'v kept the local version. can install the package maintainer's version anytime
[11:44] <TheNumb> Haris: then you don't want to replace it.
[11:44] <Haris> =)
[11:44] <thexenith> I have a Wacom tablet, and my computer Kernel Panics when I plug it in, complete with the caps light blinking
[11:45] <Haris> does ubuntu prefer -run over -sysvinit ?
[11:45] <TheNumb> Haris: what?
[11:45] <Eightynine> A few minutes ago Chrome said that tab with forum page is not responding and asked to close it. I declined it.
[11:46] <Haris> run scripts, /service in comparison to sysvinit ( /etc/init.d/... files)
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> thexenith  i had kernel panic after manually upgrading kernel 3.13 to 1.16 on ubuntu 14.04... tell us what you did prior to the kernel panic
[11:46] <TheNumb> Eightynine: need to kill all the processes.
[11:46] <TheNumb> Haris: the upstart services are preferred.
[11:46] <TheNumb> Though sysvinit should work too.
[11:46] <davevanloo> Eightynine.. kill the chrome processes and launch gnome again.. then see if the problem returns..
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> to 3.16*
[11:46] <Haris> what's upstart
[11:46] <TheNumb> !upstart
[11:47] <Haris> ah ok
[11:47] <Eightynine> Sometimes Chrome freezes when working with social networking pages or begins to lag.
[11:47] <mcphail> Haris: systemd is taking over
[11:47] <TheNumb> Yes.
[11:47] <TheNumb> But only for ubuntu 15.04+
[11:47] <mcphail> yep
[11:47] <Eightynine> systemd is total crap. Why not use Upstart?
[11:47] <Haris> the upgrade, at the end says .. grub failed to install to /dev/sda. Can I make it work or do I have to let it go, at this point ?
[11:48] <TheNumb> Eightynine: systemd works here. No complaints so far.
[11:48] <Haris> not having read into systemd, I'm ok right now
[11:48] <cfhowlett> the decision has been made.  systemd is the future.  deal with it.
[11:48] <Eightynine> Sometimes it has problems with starting/killing services.
[11:48] <TheNumb> Not here.
[11:48] <TheNumb> Works flawlessly.
[11:48] <Haris> writing grub to boot device failed, continue ?
[11:48] <Haris> yes/no ?
[11:49] <TheNumb> (Haven't tested ubuntu)
[11:49] <TheNumb> Haris: you can continue and install it manually if you know how to do that.
[11:49] <Eightynine> I'm using LTS version, why it comes with kernel 3.16 which is deprecated and not LTS kernel like 3.14 or 3.18?
[11:49] <Haris> actually, I don't :P
[11:49] <Haris> is there an article/doc on it ?
[11:49] <TheNumb> !kernel
[11:50] <TheNumb> hmm
[11:50] <TheNumb> not what I expected to see
[11:50] <PCatinean> Hey guys
[11:50] <PCatinean> I installed the ubuntu-restricted-extra thing and it installed fonts on my system that are smaller and hurt my eye, how can I revert this?
[11:50] <PCatinean> I'm in pain :(
[11:50] <Eightynine> What about my question abount kernels?
[11:50] <TheNumb> Eightynine: 3.16 is still supported and patched in ubuntu.
[11:51] <TheNumb> The fixes are being backported from newer kernels.
[11:51] <Haris> amazed at how many threads for discussing after => "do-release-upgrade manually install grub"
[11:52] <Haris> on google
[11:52] <Haris> threads = search resutls
[11:52] <OerHeks> Eightynine, what?  kernel 3.16 deprecated ?
[11:52] <TheNumb> PCatinean: did it change your font? where?
[11:52] <Eightynine> I like Gnome's Activities menu but I hate that after updating all software to 3.10 or 3.12 maximize and mimimize buttons disappeared in stock Gnome software(I mean Gedit etc). What can I use? KDE is crap, others are ancient.
[11:52] <OerHeks> Eightynine, what makes you think that?
[11:53] <Eightynine> Check kernel.org site.
[11:53] <PCatinean> TheNumb, no I did not "install" anything except the sudo apt-get install ubuntu-resricted-extras and then I saw it install new fonts
[11:53] <TheNumb> Eightynine: it doesn't work that way in ubuntu.
[11:53] <PCatinean> and now I got small and painfull fonts everywhere
[11:53] <PCatinean> Web browser etc...
[11:53] <OerHeks> Eightynine, well, go for kernel 4.0 then ...
[11:53] <TheNumb> PCatinean: try removing ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[11:53] <chotaz`w> Anyone has any input on why ubuntu tells me "Network Manager is not running" ?
[11:54] <PCatinean> TheNumb, are you SURE?!
[11:54] <TheNumb> chotaz`w: is it running?
[11:54] <Eightynine> Logically in LTS distro must be LTS kernel. Am I right?
[11:54] <TheNumb> Eightynine: no.
[11:54] <PCatinean> http://hastebin.com/afuvofuyak.vhdl
[11:54] <chotaz`w> TheNumb, shouldn't it be? Since I'm here?
[11:54] <TheNumb> chotaz`w: not necessarily.
[11:54] <TheNumb> dhcpcd/dhclient might be running
[11:55] <Eightynine> I killed Chrome and that strip disappeared but now my desktop began to lag.
[11:55] <PCatinean> TheNumb, so?
[11:55] <TheNumb> PCatinean: doooeeeeet
[11:55] <chotaz`w> TheNumb, also when I go to Startup Applications, both "Network Manager" and "Network Manager(MATE)" are there.
[11:55] <PCatinean> concerned about the linux header images thing
[11:55] <TheNumb> chotaz`w: which version of ubuntu mate are you running?
[11:55] <PCatinean> ok, now what?
[11:55] <chotaz`w> 14.10
[11:56] <TheNumb> chotaz`w: guys over at #ubuntu-mate might be more helpful in that case.
[11:56] <Eightynine> After updating to 3.12 package manager asked me to remove packages that not needed anymore(3.10 packages). I did it and Software update manager disappeared. How to fix this?
[11:56] <TheNumb> PCatinean: relog
[11:57] <TheNumb> Eightynine: did you install gnome from the testing ppa?
[11:57] <OerHeks> PCatinean, restricted extra's installs some ms ttf fonts, i don't think it changes your whole system.
[11:57] <Eightynine> I have Gnome stable and staging repos.
[11:57] <TheNumb> OerHeks: web browser will prefer the actual microsoft fonts for some reason.
[11:57] <TheNumb> Eightynine: don't do that.
[11:57] <TheNumb> Eightynine: packages in those ppas are broken.
[11:57] <Eightynine> Remove them and downgrade?
[11:58] <TheNumb> PCatinean: how did it go?
[11:58] <PCatinean> I...THINK it's back to normal, should have made a damn screenshot!
[11:58] <TheNumb> ^^
[11:58] <Eightynine> Also my fonts are not so good as I expected from Ubuntu.
[11:58] <TheNumb> Eightynine: what did you expect?
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> what's the bash command to change the keyboard layout, again?
[11:59] <janud> hi please can someone help me with driver for touchpad on Acer P256-M?
[11:59] <PCatinean> I think it's okay, what was that crap TheNumb ? :O
[11:59] <Eightynine> Seems like aliasing is not working good.
[11:59] <TheNumb> PCatinean: most likely.
[11:59] <Eightynine> I can see pixels.
[11:59] <TheNumb> Eightynine: to make sure run gnome-tweak-tool
[12:00] <TheNumb> and check the fonts tab
[12:00] <chotaz`w> thanks TheNumb , i've directed my problem there :)
[12:00] <TheNumb> chotaz`w: yw :_
[12:00] <TheNumb> :)
[12:00] <Eightynine> Gnome took 759 MB RAM and CPU loading is up to 15%. Is this Gnome's problem?
[12:01] <TheNumb> yup
[12:01] <TheNumb> Similar results here.
[12:01] <TheNumb> Though it's gotten better in gnome 3.16
[12:01] <TheNumb> It's snappier etc etc
[12:02] <IceBot3000> Gnome really jumped the shark
[12:02] <uhw29> hello all on channel, I found this : http://pastebin.com/TLmNfseW  so should I presume that I can be hacked any moment?
[12:02] <Eightynine> I don't remember what distro I used but after updating from 3.10 to 3.12 it began to work much better.
[12:02] <Haris> this box is in a local DC which is 15 mins drive away
[12:02] <Haris> grub install failed
[12:03] <cambazz> hello, I am on ubuntu 12.10 desktop, and I need the latest postgresql. how can i do that without a dist upgrade
[12:03] <Haris> after rebooting it, can I manually get it work ?
[12:03] <Haris> I mean does ubuntu have a repair mode I can boot it into
[12:03] <Haris> via a usb
[12:03] <Haris> to re-config grub
[12:03] <bazhang> cambazz, upgrade, thats not supported here
[12:03] <janud> i have installed ubuntu on my laptop but touchpad is detected only as left button => no right button or multi finger support i have tryed reinstaling synaptic drivers and everyting but its not working :( please can someone help me?
[12:04] <bazhang> !eolupgrade | cambazz
[12:04] <davevanloo> you could load a live envirement and edit grub using utilities that way Haris
[12:04] <TheNumb> uhw29: if you run this script with root privileges then probably. I've only skimmed through.
[12:04] <TheNumb> uhw29: looks like the url no longer works though
[12:05] <Haris> I just hope, I can make this box to boot. I think this is a vmware VM. its hdd is not something I could access physically if it wasn't booting
[12:05] <JackMayol_> hey hey
[12:05] <uhw29> TheNumb, but it is about hacking the root privilege itself, isn't it?
[12:05] <TheNumb> no
[12:05] <Haris> everything ok thus far, accept for ntp and grub failure
[12:05] <davevanloo> aka install a distro-live on a pendrive, boot from it select "try" or something similar ( distro Dependant ) and use some preffered grub tool ( or manually if you feel up to it) ( you can always load a vhd as a second drive in vmware.. )
[12:06] <TheNumb> uhw29: if your kernel is up to date you've got nothing to worry about.
[12:07] <JackMayol> I have a question, I have a folder with around 40000 files and I would want to know how many of those files contain a special string, how do I do that?
[12:07] <Eightynine> So, if Gnome "jumped the shark" as you said, what can I do?
[12:07] <uhw29> TheNumb, I run updates as they come. if that does it, fine.
[12:07] <Haris> accept = except
[12:07] <TheNumb> uhw29: also, looks like the script is not complete.
[12:07] <dewdrop> Hi, I accidentally deleted /usr/share/locale. what is the best way to put files back in?
[12:07] <mcphail> JackMayol: use grep, ack or ag
[12:07] <bazhang> Eightynine, thats not a support question
[12:08] <JackMayol> mcphail ya I was thinking to do it with grep but how exactly?
[12:08] <TheNumb> Eightynine: either wait for 15.10 to come or check out other distributions.
[12:08] <uhw29> TheNumb, thank you for informing me on this.
[12:08] <Eightynine> Why Ubuntu developers wrote tools on Python? Those tools working slow and consume too much resources.
[12:08] <JackMayol> I mean I can do a grep - string *.profile but that will list all the results instead of a number of how many files have this string
[12:09] <SchrodingersScat> JackMayol: grep -c is count
[12:09] <Eightynine> What works better? open-source driver or fglrx?
[12:09] <JackMayol> SchrodingersScat ah ok
[12:09] <TheNumb> Eightynine: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:09] <TheNumb> Eightynine: this is a support channel
[12:09] <Haris> OK!. Upgraded to VERSION="14.04.2 LTS, Trusty Tahr"
[12:09] <Eightynine> And what about tools?
[12:09] <TheNumb> Eightynine: not general questions channel.
[12:10] <TheNumb> Eightynine: that applies to both of your questions.
[12:10] <Haris> but with errors. do-release-upgrade doesn't run anymore
[12:10] <mcphail> SchrodingersScat: I think that will count a file multiple times if there are multiple matches
[12:10] <Haris> now to reboot :P
[12:10] <TheNumb> Haris: try running apt-get install -f first
[12:10] <TheNumb> see if there's any output
[12:11] <danbower^work> i tend to do updates with `apt-get update; apt-get upgrade`. when i last done this, mailman brought up a little window in my CLI to pick a language. however it just wouldn't progress past the first window so i hit ctrl-c. however `apt-get upgrade` now hangs after "Looking for enabled languages (this may take some time) ... done."
[12:11] <danbower^work> any ideas how i can fix this?
[12:12] <TheNumb> danbower^work: are you sure it was mailman?
[12:12] <danbower^work> pretty sure (this is a dev box)
[12:12] <mcphail> JackMayol: better to use grep -r to recursively search files under a directory than include "*" globs which break if the filenames contain spaces
[12:12] <SchrodingersScat> mcphail JackMayol : it lists the file name that matches and the number of matches, so you could pipe it into | wc -l and get the number of files.
[12:12] <TheNumb> danbower^work: in that case you could try running dpkg-reconfigure mailman
[12:12] <mcphail> SchrodingersScat: you should use grep -l | wc -l
[12:12] <zykotick9> danbower^work: sidenote - personally, i'd suggest "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" as your general upgrade steps (to update everything, including kernel) but YMMV
[12:13] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/2969809
[12:13] <danbower^work> ok thanks TheNumb.
[12:13] <mcphail> SchrodingersScat: that way you only count wach file once
[12:13] <danbower^work> i'll keep that in mind zykotick9, thank you
[12:13] <mcphail> *each
[12:14] <SchrodingersScat> mcphail: same result as -c
[12:14] <JackMayol> mcphail SchrodingersScat : at the end I just need a number output, not all the files listed
[12:14] <JackMayol> like 1000 (which would be the number of the *.profile files including the string I am looking for)
[12:14] <SchrodingersScat> JackMayol: so grep -l or grep -c pattern list | wc -l
[12:15] <danbower^work> TheNumb, that command returns "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mailman is broken or not fully installed." :/
[12:15] <Haris> where is grub.conf or grub.cfg on 14.x LTS ?
[12:15] <zykotick9> Haris: try /boot/grub/
[12:16]  * Haris smacks forehead .. ofcourse
[12:16] <zykotick9> Haris: note, you _might_ actually be looking for /etc/default/grub however!
[12:16] <Haris> that too
[12:17] <JackMayol> SchrodingersScat I get grep: list: No such file or directory
[12:17] <JackMayol> 0
[12:17] <TheNumb> danbower^work: dpkg configure -a
[12:17] <JackMayol> when doing grep -c pattern list | wc -l
[12:17] <JackMayol> sorry I am not the most advanced linux user :)
[12:17] <TheNumb> danbower^work: err --configure
[12:18] <olle> Hey, is this backbox's real channel?
[12:18] <swizgard_> for upgrading from trusty to utopic "apt-get dist-upgrade" or "aptitude full-upgrade"?
[12:18] <TheNumb> olle: what?
[12:18] <zykotick9> swizgard_: neither!
[12:18] <TheNumb> swizgard_: desktop? server?
[12:18] <swizgard_> TheNumb: desktop
[12:18] <TheNumb> update-manager
[12:18] <swizgard_> i see
[12:18] <TheNumb> need to pass -d for upgrade to utopic
[12:18] <TheNumb> no waut
[12:18] <zykotick9> swizgard_: fyi, dist-upgrade and full-upgrade are actually the same.  and neither will take you to a new release.
[12:19] <TheNumb> don't add -d
[12:19] <TheNumb> ugh
[12:19] <bazhang> TheNumb, thats not correct
[12:19] <TheNumb> derped
[12:19] <Haris> nothing of consequence in /etc/default/grub
[12:19] <TheNumb> bazhang: yeah, I realized that.
[12:19] <TheNumb> Too much time off ubuntu space :(
[12:19] <swizgard_> zykotick9: if i change the sources.list's first, they will
[12:19] <swizgard_> but i will try update-manager
[12:20] <zykotick9> swizgard_: oh, well, that _is_ different.  but NOT the recommended ubuntu-way...
[12:20] <TheNumb> swizgard_: an upgrade is more complicated that just changing the sources.list
[12:20] <TheNumb> *than
[12:20] <swizgard_> but only "update-mime" is installed
[12:20] <TheNumb> !upgrade
[12:20] <danbower^work> thanks TheNumb. it's actually hanging after "Looking for enabled languages (this may take some time) ... done." with that command too. i have left it for an hour or so, it doesn't progress :/
[12:20] <Haris> what's grub-pc ?
[12:21] <TheNumb> danbower^work: have you tried regenerating the locales?
[12:21] <Haris> State: partially configured
[12:21] <danbower^work> TheNumb, no i haven't. not too sure how to do that
[12:22] <Haris> a box can boot without grub-pc or with it having been in partially configured state, right ?
[12:22] <Haris> after a do-release-upgrade
[12:22] <swizgard_> (ah, kubuntu does use muon update manager...)
[12:22] <TheNumb> danbower^work: did you remove  /usr/share/locale ?
[12:22] <TheNumb> or  /usr/share/locales
[12:22] <Haris> ah well ... rebooting
[12:22] <Haris> do I need to reboot ?
[12:23] <TheNumb> Haris: you do.
[12:23] <TheNumb> You should reboot after an upgrade.
[12:23] <danbower^work> TheNumb, nope. i only killed the install once i got stuck in that mailman window
[12:24] <danbower^work> s/install/upgrade
[12:24] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/2969815
[12:24] <swizgard_> Haris: re: reboot and grub. i would check /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the kernels/ramdisks which are linked there
[12:25] <TheNumb> swizgard_: he said it's a vmware vm.
[12:26] <TheNumb> danbower^work: does it actually finish looking?
[12:26] <Haris> the kernel, initrd files exist
[12:27] <Haris> I'm jut worrying if grub will work
[12:27] <danbower^work> TheNumb, nah i've left it for ages mate
[12:27] <TheNumb> hmm
[12:27] <Haris> a previous version of kernel, initrd also exist. I shoudl not worry
[12:27] <Haris> should+
[12:28] <swizgard_> TheNumb: sorry, didn't read
[12:29] <danbower^work> i'm actually using virtualmin on this dev box. perhaps it'd be better if i ask in the relevant channel for that
[12:29] <TheNumb> danbower^work: try running apt-get install -f
[12:29] <davevanloo> dont forget to sudo! :)
[12:30] <TheNumb> nah
[12:30] <TheNumb> real men work on root accounts ;p
[12:30] <davevanloo> true lol
[12:30] <daftykins> TheNumb: stupid statement
[12:30] <danbower^work> TheNumb, unfortunately that still results in the "Looking for enabled languages (this may take some time) ... done." then hanging
[12:30] <danbower^work> amusing though
[12:30] <daftykins> stupid and sexist
[12:30] <davevanloo> TheNumb. how would i make my account root by default?
[12:30] <danbower^work> sudo su
[12:31] <daftykins> no, don't ever run that
[12:31] <TheNumb> daftykins: just joking ;p
[12:31] <daftykins> it's sudo -i or -s
[12:31] <davevanloo> daftykins i do not think it is sexist
[12:31] <TheNumb> danbower^work: I'm out of ideas, sorry :(
[12:31] <danbower^work> no worries, really appreciate the help anyway :) thanks
[12:31] <MrElendig> davevanloo: why do you want to do that?
[12:31] <daftykins> davevanloo: good for you :)
[12:32] <Haris> even after do-release-upgade, when I login as root on console, it says 492 packages can be updated
[12:32] <Haris> o_O
[12:32] <davevanloo> i would preffer not to have to sudo.., mainly as a usefull thing.. being in root by default.. is usefull.. understanding the security risks it might bring daftykins
[12:32] <daftykins> davevanloo: you 100% missed the point
[12:33] <davevanloo> daftykins: ooh.. then please explain :)
[12:33] <daftykins> nah we're beyond that now. back to support thanks
[12:33] <zamba> how do i change the keyboard layout in the latest version of ubuntu?
[12:33] <zamba> i don't have the icon in the systray
[12:34] <zamba> and system settings only has "language support" and nothing there about changing keyboard layout
[12:34] <davevanloo> well my support question was"how can i set my user account to be root by default, aka no more sudo-ing needed"
[12:34] <Eightynine> There are dumbfucks and trolls on that channel. What about my problem with Gnome?
[12:34] <zamba> the only thing i see is "keyboard input method system"
[12:34] <daftykins> !language Eightynine pretty sure we've warned you about using language in here before :)
[12:34] <danbower^work> in all seriousness davevanloo, lurking as root isn't wise
[12:34] <daftykins> bah typo
[12:34] <daftykins> !language | Eightynine pretty sure we've warned you about using language in here before :)
[12:34] <geirha> davevanloo: We don't support that.
[12:34] <davevanloo> Eightynine: we gave you an answere on what to do.., kill all chrome process and watch to see if you can reproduce.. and how it comes to that
[12:35] <daftykins> davevanloo: yeah you need to just get used to using 'sudo -i' or similar.
[12:35] <nbusrone> may I know , what's the different between clone and backup on ubuntu ? example tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz vs dd if=/  of=/ ?
[12:35] <daftykins> nbusrone: one is archiving, one is disk imaging
[12:35] <davevanloo> danbower^work and geirha " ok then, thank you.., i am used to using sudo.., and i understand the security risks. so also why it would be stupid to do so.. :)"
[12:35] <daftykins> vastly different actions
[12:36] <Eightynine> I killed it and launched again.  :P"
[12:36] <davevanloo> wait.. run steam?
[12:36] <davevanloo> why would i be in pain for running steam.. as sudo?
[12:37] <davevanloo> Eightynine:  you can install an software update manager to your liking.. and yes.. using a terminal just that one time.. o.O
[12:37] <daftykins> because they had a bug a bit ago which wipes your system
[12:37] <geirha> daftykins: steam for linux had a bug ... a shell script relied on "$0", and used an rm -rf later on ... which ended up as rm -rf /
[12:37] <nbusrone> daftykins : but would it be the same ? sorry new to ubuntu .
[12:37] <daftykins> geirha: tab complete fail.
[12:37] <geirha> in some circumstances
[12:37] <davevanloo> dang.. :P
[12:37] <geirha> since $0 is unreliable
[12:38] <danbower^work> oh wow
[12:38] <danbower^work> :D
[12:38] <daftykins> nbusrone: same as what? both are bad ways of backup
[12:38] <Eightynine> How to install it?
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine  install what?
[12:39] <Eightynine> Update manager.
[12:39] <davevanloo> "a" software update manager correct?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine  it should be there by default, unless you deleted it
[12:40] <Eightynine> Of course. English is not my native but even I know that there was a mistake.
[12:40] <davevanloo> i think sudo apt-get install update-manager and yes.. it should only be needed if you deleted it before yourself.. as nearly all distro's come with one..
[12:40] <Eightynine> Package manager deleted one of them during update.
[12:41] <davevanloo> then try sudo apt-get install update-manager it should tell you if its already there.. or install it..
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> Eightynine  that doesnt make sense
[12:42] <Eightynine> Maybe there's upgrade manager too? It says I already have update-manager.
[12:43] <davevanloo> then it did not get installed.. and it should still be avaible.. if you cannot find it in your shell.. simply run update-manager in a terminal
[12:43] <davevanloo> un-installed*
[12:43] <Haris> how to check if a service will auto start on next boot or not ?
[12:44] <Haris> there's no chkconfig I believe
[12:44] <davevanloo> services.msc!
[12:44]  * davevanloo hides in a corner
[12:45] <davevanloo> sorry hehe, it just popped in my mind :), in a serious note.. http://www.linuxtopia.org/HowToGuides/services.html might help you.. :)
[12:45] <Eightynine> I think there were two managers: an update manager which updates libs and docs, etc and upgrade manager which updates system and software, I lost second one.
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Haris  this makes all startup services visible, you can then easily enable/disable them   sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[12:47] <Eightynine> So what?
[12:48] <davevanloo> Eightynine: well repeat the same process as you did with update manager, i do not know for certain if they are different though.. did you even try what i suggested?
[12:49] <Eightynine> Yes, it didn't help. I'm using russian version and don't know how that manager called in english.
[12:50] <Eightynine> I'll try to translate, one was Update applications and the second was Update software or Software update.
[12:50] <davevanloo> perhaps the channel #ubuntu-ru could give you more specific information then? i am uncertain though if program/package names change with language though
[12:51] <davevanloo> running software from the terminal is done using package names, and not using "translated" names like you might find in the general config pannel of your shell
[12:52] <davevanloo> so triggering apt-get install upgrade-manager ( if it exists and is not part of update-manager ) should have been sufficient..
[12:52] <Eightynine> Can you please check if you have those programms installed?
[12:52] <davevanloo> will do
[12:53] <davevanloo> negative, upgrade-manager does not exist on my install
[12:53] <davevanloo> update-manager does..
[12:53] <Eightynine> Usually I couldn't get answers on russian channels.
[12:54] <davevanloo> in a terminal type update-manager it should bring up the update manager and allow you to update ( you could say that is "upgrade" )
[12:55] <Eightynine> It launches  Update applications
[12:55] <davevanloo> Eightynine: yes.. so you have all the software needed to "upgrade"
[12:56] <davevanloo> if any one else would like to jump in and help Eightynine out further.. i need to go afk for a little while
[12:56] <Eightynine> Good luck
[13:01] <Eightynine> Entered russian channel and asked.
[13:02] <nbusrone> daftykins : which method is the best for  backup ?
[13:02] <Rory> Am I missing something painfully obvious when creating a symbolic link to a directory? ln -s /source/directory/foo /target/directory/
[13:02] <Rory> cd target/directory/foo "no such file or directory"
[13:02] <Rory> file target/directory/foo - broken symbolic link to source/directory/foo
[13:02] <Rory> file source/directory/foo: directory
[13:03] <nbusrone> daftykins : actually , my intention wasn't just backup.I wanted to move my Ubuntu 14.04 installed on sda4 extended partition to my sda2 primary partition.
[13:03] <ubuntu754> hello, i need your help guys
[13:03] <Rory> foo I would not want to be you in this channel
[13:03] <daftykins> nbusrone: no that sounds like a very messy attempt
[13:04] <Eightynine> Nobody is responding there.
[13:04] <zykotick9> Rory: i'd suggest "cd /target/directory && ln -s /source/directory/foo"
[13:04] <hkrrsx> morning
[13:04] <daftykins> Eightynine: not our concern.
[13:05] <Rory> OK zykotick9 I will try that
[13:05] <nbusrone> daftykins : :( , guess only clean install my final option
[13:05] <ubuntu754> i have lubuntu on my netbook, i just loaded and the screen shows a very small desktop
[13:05] <zykotick9> Rory: that trailing / on /target/directory/ may be causing issue...  i think it expect an entire name so /target/directory/foo
[13:05] <ubuntu754> is not the resolution, but the watchable area
[13:05] <Rory> Thanks zykotick9 that worked - I think it's to do with relative path names
[13:06] <ubuntu754> how i can reset the screen area?
[13:07] <ubuntu754> how i can reset the screen area? thank you
[13:07] <daftykins> nbusrone: not until you explain the full situation right from the beginning :) and to the channel, as i'm going to enjoy the sunshine
[13:08] <ubuntu754> how i can reset the screen area? thank you
[13:09] <Rory> ubuntu754: What do you mean by "reset the screen area" ?
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu754  idd, not sure what you mean... try arandr
[13:09] <ubuntu754> @rory i mean that the resolution is ok but the watchable area is like 800x600
[13:10] <Rory> ubuntu754: MonkeyDust's suggestion of arandr is a good one, then. use the command "sudo apt-get -y install arandr" to install it, and then run it with "arandr" - you will see a graphical interfact to drag and arrange monitors
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu754  is that a laptop or a desktop? if it's a desktop, try the buttons on your monitor
[13:13] <Haris> the VM is booting. I was wrong to worry about anything
[13:13] <baxx> I need to chown a directory - I'm just wondering if this is the right command given the user vco : sudo chown -R vco:vco/home/vco/Android
[13:14] <Eightynine> Why aptitude is not available in Ubuntu,
[13:14] <k1l> Eightynine: apt-get is the standard cli tool
[13:14] <michagogo> Has there been a grub-related update in the past 48 hours?
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> Haris  vmware ot vbox?
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Haris  vmware or vbox?
[13:15] <Haris> vmware
[13:15] <k1l> baxx: do a space between vco and /home
[13:15] <baxx> k1l: cool cheers :)
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> Haris  in case you use virtual machines alot, take a look at Vagrant https://docs.vagrantup.com/
[13:17] <ubuntu064> Hi there, anyone has experience with sendmail?
[13:18] <nalum> hello all, does anyone know if python 2.7.9 will every be made available to ubuntu 14.04?
[13:18] <Haris> does touch /forcefsck work on ubuntu ?
[13:18] <baxx> k1l: how can I test that has worked for a file within the given directory?
[13:19] <Haris> for forcing fsck on next reboot
[13:19] <k1l> baxx: see ls -al /path/to/file
[13:19] <Haris> guys ?
[13:19] <k1l> Haris: "it just works"
[13:20] <k1l> Haris: what do you want to know exactly?
[13:20] <Haris> how to force fsck on next reboot
[13:20] <ubuntu754> Rory
[13:20] <k1l> you already named the technic
[13:20] <Haris> =)
[13:21] <baxx> k1l: all the names are listed as the user 'vco' but things still aren't working for vco as they do for sudo, I'll post a link to info 2 secs
[13:21] <k1l> touch /forcefsck works for ext3/4 partitions
[13:22] <Rory> ubuntu754: hello, yes?
[13:22] <Rory> You can set a more friendly nickname with the "/nick" command - for example to change my name to Rory I typed "/nick Rory" (without the quotes)
[13:23] <Haris> how to check if a service will auto start on next reboot or not ?
[13:24] <Haris> on 12.x LTS
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> Haris  this makes all startup services visible, you can then easily enable/disable them   sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[13:25] <Haris> postfix is not in it
[13:25] <baxx> k1l: Heres a pasteit with the Info, wasn't sure of the best way to show this info : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10782669/
[13:27] <EriC^^> Haris: not sure how you could check if it will start next time or not, you could just update-rc.d enable it to be sure
[13:27] <patricio> hola
[13:27] <EriC^^> !upstart | Haris or check here
[13:27] <Haris> reading =)
[13:27] <EriC^^> cool :)

[13:28] <Haris> when I run update-rc.d postfix enable, it gives me the help menu
[13:29] <Haris> on usage
[13:29] <Rory> ubuntu754: hello, yes?
[13:29] <Haris> damn, its going to download 930+ packages all over again
[13:30] <Haris> minus the damn part
[13:30] <EriC^^> Haris: update-rc.d postfix enable
[13:30] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[13:31] <EriC^^> Haris: odd, it works here
[13:31] <k1l> baxx: you are using a proxy?
[13:31] <Haris> I'm running it on another .. more older box
[13:32] <Haris> what is NN, SS KK part in the update-rc.d command
[13:32] <k1l> baxx: please do a "ls -al" in the vco users home and see what folder and files are owned by root:root
[13:32] <meast>  /disconnect
[13:32] <Haris> what's a two digit sequence number
[13:33] <Haris> I mean I have to say 03 or 05 for 3 and 5 runlevel respectively ?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> Haris  what was your initial, wheat brought you here?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> Haris  what was your initial question, what brought you here?
[13:34] <Haris> enable parameter was not present in the old version of the OS
[13:34] <Haris> MonkeyDust ntp failing because of a shared library not able to do file_mmap operation
[13:34] <Haris> at a time when selinux was disabled
[13:34] <Haris> and still is btw
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> Haris  nothing seems to work on your system, i wonder how that's possible
[13:35] <Haris> well, its working for the most part
[13:35] <Haris> only ntp is not working
[13:35] <Haris> :D
[13:35] <Haris> the /tmp/upgrade-* references are now gone
[13:35] <Haris> re-running do-release-upgrade
[13:36] <Haris> I'm talking about two separate boxes here
[13:36] <Haris> on one, I'm running do-release-upgrade. its the box where ntp is not starting
[13:36] <Haris> on another box, I'm just trying to make sure postfix starts on next bootup (which I'v completed btw)
[13:37] <baxx> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10782739/
[13:38] <Haris> working on one box to make it available for cassandra
[13:40] <Haris> I just talk too much
[13:40] <baxx> k1l: I'm not using a proxy, I'm currently having to sudo ./android in order to start the sdk manager though
[13:40] <chotaz`w> Is is possible to compare the currently installed packages vs the ones that come installed by default?
[13:40] <jpds> Haris: Ubuntu doesn't even come with SELinux.
[13:40] <baxx> chotaz`w: dpkg might let you do that.... maybe if you ran it on a fresh VM you could get the original packages?
[13:41] <k1l> baxx: stop using sudo for that stuff
[13:41] <Haris> well, this is 12.x LTS
[13:41] <Haris> precise has it in its repo
[13:41] <baxx> k1l: it doesn't work without it though :/
[13:41] <k1l> baxx: your are just ruining your permissions like that.
[13:41] <jpds> Haris: Ubuntu has never ever shipped with support for SELinux.
[13:41] <k1l> baxx: sudo chown vco:vco /home/vco/.android
[13:41] <chotaz`w> baxx, I'm just desperate trying to figure out why "Network manager is not running..." and the service failts to initialize on startup and whenever I manually run it, I just lose connection
[13:42] <Haris> I'm not sure if selinux is causing the denial in audit log. but something is
[13:42] <k1l> baxx: sudo chown -R vco:vco /home/vco/.android
[13:42] <Haris> as I said, selinux is disabled before I touched this box
[13:42] <Haris> s/is/was/g
[13:42] <baxx> chotaz`w: I'm no expert and can't help you with anything tricky, but what I posted might enable you to view the originally installed packages if noone else posts anything, I think I have a script somewhere for it
[13:43] <Haris> I installed selinux-utils to have the getenforce utility to confirm if it was enabled/disabled
[13:43] <Haris> only libselinux was installed before that, I believe
[13:43] <baxx> chotaz`w: see this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10782778/
[13:43] <baxx> chotaz`w: obviously read it and understand it first, I've not fully got it myself but I think that will back the packages up
[13:44] <Haris> I ran do-release-ugprade before, but it was aborted at the last stages while I was selecting options for grub. I'm running it again
[13:44] <baxx> k1l: thanks for that, I ran it on the others, I'll run it on that now
[13:44] <Haris> do-release-upgrade goes well, except for ntp error. it remains the same
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> chotaz`w: wich package are you trying to compare
[13:45] <chotaz`w> lotuspsychje, I'll repeat my previous line
[13:45] <chotaz`w> lotuspsychje, I'm just desperate trying to figure out why "Network manager is not running..." and the service failts to initialize on startup and whenever I manually run it, I just lose connection
[13:46] <baxx> k1l: are things that I have installed using the previous method going to cause me issues? Should I delete everything and start again? thanks :)
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> chotaz`w: ubuntu version?
[13:46] <k1l> baxx: ?
[13:46] <k1l> baxx: if you install 3rd party stuff its your responibility to look after it
[13:47] <baxx> k1l: I've installed some of the packages running the SDK manager as sudo, I was just wondering if that was something that should be re-done with the chown settings
[13:47] <chotaz`w> lotuspsychje, UbuntuMATE 14.10, I've tried #ubuntu-mate but we're clueless there, for now.
[13:47] <k1l> that should be sorted with the chown command now
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> chotaz`w: did you try 14.04.2 if you have same issue?
[13:48] <baxx> k1l: ok cool, I would have been happy to just wipe everything and start again if I'd buggered it as I haven't done that much. thanks though
[13:50] <chotaz`w> lotuspsychje, thing is there are work-deployd ubuntu-mate bundled laptops, everybody on the company runs the same, and this is just happening on a specific computer, which has a manually configured interface to connect to a VM, could that cause said issues? here's /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/sZ0vJqAD
[13:50] <chotaz`w> these are*
[13:50] <Haris> rebooting after successful do-release-upgrade
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> chotaz`w: not sure mate, i dont play with VM's much
[13:51] <Haris> Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-49-generic x86_64)
[13:51] <davevanloo> allright.. im back Eightynine, did you get your problem resolved or question(s) answered?
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> Haris: plz use this channel only for support questions
[13:52] <Haris> ok
[13:52] <chotaz`w> lotuspsychje, the VM is just what I'm connecting to, I think it shoulnt have anything to do with said network interface and manager. I might be wrong.
[13:52] <Haris> hmm
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> chotaz`w: did you try F1 at boot to see whats happening to network-manager exactly? check your syslog? dmesg?
[13:53] <Haris> on 14.x LTS is systemd working or sysvinit ?
[13:54] <k1l> Haris: upstart
[13:54] <Haris> ah ok
[13:55] <ubuntu754> hello i need your help guys, i have a netbook I just boot the system, the resolution of the screen is correct (1024x600), but the watchable area it looks like 800x600 except for the bottom bar, how i can reset the screen?
[13:55] <Haris> ntp was removed during upgrade process. installing it
[13:55] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I disable my keyboard and assign a shortcut to it to re-enable it later?
[13:55] <Haris> ntp started perfectly fine now. no errors
[13:56] <mojtaba> I know how to do this for trackpad. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10782838/
[13:56] <Haris> is that apt-get upgrade -f after do-release-upgrade ?
[13:56] <mojtaba> (I need this feature because of my 1 yr son.)
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | ubuntu754
[13:57] <Haris> have a consistent box after upgrade
[13:57] <Haris> to trusty
[13:58] <Haris> finally!
[13:58] <ubuntu754> Xrandr is auto
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  after you disbaled your keyboard, you cannot use it for a keyboard shortcut
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu754: did you try xrandr --auto ?
[13:59] <Haris> now I can install cassandra, datastax community and call it a day
[13:59] <Haris> hehe
[13:59] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: may be with mouse
[13:59] <ubuntu754> lotuspsychje: yes and is set as auto
[14:00] <Haris> I have to stop doing that
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu754: can this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/62483/some-windows-dont-fit-on-1024x600-what-can-i-do
[14:01] <chotaz`w> lotuspsychje, i wouldnt know I could try such approaches, I'll do some reading on that, thanks for the tip