[05:24] <OvenWerks> zequence: installed vanilla.
[05:29] <OvenWerks> zequence: vanilla doesn't come with an irc client  :P  It of course does not have a menu per say, but the left side bar could be set up for any one work flow. Installed xfce4-panel and now have a menu... no icons though. I found it does not use the xfce-menu file but reads gnome-applications.menu
[05:30] <OvenWerks> zequence: I guess that makes sense, it probably looks at what kind of session it is.
[05:31] <OvenWerks> ls
[05:31] <OvenWerks> Hmm, I can't set focus follows mouse on here
[18:02] <zequence> Been a little busy this weekend. Won't have time much today either, but will check in tomorrow.
[19:49] <Rosco2> Finished subscribing UbuntuStudioBugs to relevant packages. Possible tuning to do.
[19:50] <Rosco2> But thinking of a quick email to the mailing lists to advertise US-Bugs Team.
[19:50] <Rosco2> Good idea to email US-devel and US-user?
[20:56] <zequence> Rosco2: Oh, great. If you want to post a mail about that, please do. I'll make sure we make use of that team in the coming cycle.
[20:56] <zequence> Rosco2: -devel is enough
[20:57] <zequence> -user mail list should mainly be about discussion and support
[20:57] <Rosco2> Just drafting it now! Thanks thought I would check, because new to both lists and hadn't seen much traffic on -user
[20:58]  * elfy didn't know there was one
[20:59] <Rosco2> Will also mention it in separate mail to Debian-Multimedia
[21:06] <zequence> elfy: we actually have a testing mail list too, which is not used yet
[21:06] <zequence> ubuntustudio-testing
[21:06] <elfy> yea - I did see that one :D
[21:06] <elfy> was wandering about ;)


[16:37] <bwmaker> Good morning. I downloaded the Thunderbird 37 beta tarball and tried starting it like I normally do other executables w/ `./thunderbird' inside the /thunderbird/ dir but it tells me the file doesn't exist. I set chmod to +x and did an ls in the thunderbird dir to ensure it was there. Any ideas? My Google foo is failing me today.


[12:02] <matsubara> mvo: anyway, thanks for the info.
[12:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68082 in xserver-xgl (universe) "Xgl crashes when moving or resizing window with Beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68082
[12:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68083 in gnome-utils (main) "Alt+PrintScreen not working in edgy." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68083
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68084 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "Nautilus CD Burner does not enable joliet extensions when burning to DVD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68084
[12:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68085 in amarok (main) "amarok refuses to play midi files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68085
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68086 in Ubuntu "Flash Causes Firefox 2.0 to crash in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68086
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68087 in xmms (main) "xmms hangs when playing more than one midi file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68087
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68088 in evolution (main) "Craches on importing .Pst from outlook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68088
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68089 in gnome-power-manager (main) "problem with >1 batteries? Edgy shuts down to early." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68089
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68090 in Ubuntu "barra de tareas y edgy!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68090
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68091 in xmms (main) "xmms segfaults when using OSS driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68091
[12:26] <secretlondon> 68089 is a dup
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68092 in udev (main) "udev hangs on startup when using LDAP for authentication" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68092
[12:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68093 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany doesn't use gnome's copy & paste protocol" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68093
[12:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68094 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu Dapper installing CD didn't detect X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68094
[12:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68095 in evolution (main) "certificate icon not hi-res in preferences" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68095
[12:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68097 in webdeveloper (universe) "Web developer not marked as 2.0 compatible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68097
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68096 in hardinfo (universe) "Crash when executing CPU SHA1 on HP nx6325 64bit (edgy 6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68096
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68098 in Ubuntu "JVM crash eclipse libxpcom.so+0x90b52" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68098
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68099 in hardinfo (universe) "Fibonacci-Benchmark doesn't work on HP nx6325 64bit (edgy 6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68099
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68100 in nautilus (main) "100% CPU usage when copying files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68100
[12:57] <huats> Does anybody can give https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/solfege/+bug/66509me its opinion on that :
[12:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 66509 in solfege "Solfege has a runtime dependency on timidity not in the apt package" [Low,Confirmed]
[12:57] <huats> I've just made a fix, but I want to know if it was the right way...
[01:04] <secretlondon> i'll have a quick look
[01:04] <huats> secretlondon: ok thanks
[01:05] <TheMuso> c
[01:06] <secretlondon> huats: that link breaks
[01:06] <secretlondon> #66509
[01:07] <huats> really ?
[01:07] <secretlondon> sorted now - it was the me at the end
[01:07] <huats> ok
[01:08] <secretlondon> it shouldn't be a dsc - should be a patch
[01:09] <huats> it is just the name of the file ?
[01:09] <huats> I sould call it .patch ?
[01:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68101 in gaim (main) "gaim doesn't follow gnome's new copy-paste protocol" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68101
[01:09] <huats> s/sould/should/
[01:10] <secretlondon> call it patch
[01:10] <secretlondon> I'm not a motu so I don't know if timidity needs to be earlier in that list, or to have a specific version
[01:13] <huats> ok
[01:13] <secretlondon> but apart from the name looks fine
[01:14] <huats> ok
[01:14] <huats> thanks
[01:14] <huats> I cannot change the file
[01:14] <huats> so I have put a comment explaining that
[01:14] <secretlondon> cool
[01:16] <huats> do I have anything else to do ?
[01:16] <secretlondon> thats it i think
[01:16] <huats> I mean assigning it to motu ?
[01:16] <secretlondon> you can do, doesn't do any harm
[01:16] <huats> to indicate that there is a fix...
[01:17] <secretlondon> prob set to fix released too
[01:17] <huats> ok
[01:17] <huats> commited or released ?
[01:17] <huats> released ?
[01:18] <secretlondon> not usre
[01:18] <secretlondon> sure
[01:18] <huats> so do I, that is why I ask :-)
[01:26] <huats> ok nevermind
[01:26] <secretlondon> what's up?
[01:26] <huats> got to go to bed .. it is too late in france...
[01:26] <huats> secretlondon: thanks again
[01:26] <huats> bye
[01:26] <secretlondon> huats: good night
[01:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68102 in yaboot (main) "CD check doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68102
[01:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68103 in Ubuntu "[Edgy] Swap isn't mounted while booting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68103
[01:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68020 in azureus (universe) "Azureus <IP_ADDRESS> crashes" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68020
[01:55] <jaebird> I just tried the edgy RC and I'm still having problems booting on my PC. Ref bug #63283
[01:55] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63283 in bootcd "Live CD will not boot on my PC." [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63283
[01:58] <secretlondon> jaebird: #ubuntu is the best place for suport
[02:00] <jaebird> This bug is only for edgy, and was reported back in sept. and has all the info requested, nobody has looked at it for quite sometime.
[02:01] <secretlondon> i think it's because it's against the wrong package
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68105 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crash during package's upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68105
[02:01] <secretlondon> the live CD won't boot?
[02:01] <jaebird> that is correct...i'm trying to get somebody to listen to me :)
[02:02] <secretlondon> ok - if things are against the wrong package the wrong developers get them and they can get lost
[02:02] <jaebird> this pc has been compatible with ubuntu from the start, i've used it since the first, now it won't boot the cd
[02:02] <jaebird> what package should it be against?
[02:03] <secretlondon> i've just set against ubiquity which is the graphical installer
[02:03] <secretlondon> it was against an obscure package in universe
[02:03] <jaebird> ok, thks
[02:04] <jaebird> just fyi...it starts the boot process and hangs on the splash...forever
[02:04] <secretlondon> we'll need a different set of files - we don't need the files from dapper i don't think. have you got anything in /var/log/installer?
[02:05] <jaebird> no, it doesn't boot that far
[02:05] <secretlondon> so nothing in there? bah
[02:05] <jaebird> the cd locks up my pc
[02:05] <jaebird> the only thing i can run right now is dapper
[02:06] <secretlondon> but it should make files when it is starting - and we can see where it stops
[02:06] <secretlondon> I admit I don't know enough about how the live cd works
[02:06] <jaebird> it never writes to the hdd.
[02:06] <secretlondon> but I've hopefully added it to the correct persons in tray
[02:07] <secretlondon> jaebird: you are right, it is late here (sorry)
[02:08] <secretlondon> i'm having a quick look on the wiki to see if there is anything else we do need
[02:08] <jaebird> i bet it is too late for edgy, with the freeze and all...me so sad :(
[02:09] <secretlondon> :(
[02:10] <jaebird> it really is hard to figure out what package is associated to the install/live cd
[02:10] <secretlondon> yep
[02:10] <jaebird> if you look at the history of the bug it went all over the place before becoming stale.
[02:10] <secretlondon> i'm going to post a couple of things on the bug to try
[02:11] <jaebird> maybe there are some boot params that can get me going?!
[02:11] <jaebird> the cd boots fine on my other pc
[02:11] <secretlondon> i'm looking :)
[02:13] <secretlondon> Your machine isn't THAT bad to lock up forever. I've booted unhappily on a duron 750 here!
[02:13] <secretlondon> it was terribly slow and i stuck xfce on it, but the spec of your machine is not the problem
[02:14] <jaebird> i'm wondering if it is my scsi card or some interrupt lockup
[02:16] <secretlondon> this is with more than one cd?
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68106 in azureus (universe) "Three (unhandled?) exceptions on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68106
[02:19] <jaebird> ? this is the i386 desktop cd
[02:20] <secretlondon> but more than one burn?  a lot of problems with live cds are caused by dodgy cds, bad burns, broken downloads
[02:22] <jaebird> the current RC acts the same way as Beta and previous flights, which have all passed md5 and burned by different burners, i'm fairly confident in the data integrity aspect.
[02:22] <secretlondon> but i see you've use dmore than one cd
[02:22] <secretlondon> ok fine
[02:22] <secretlondon> it's a good first thing to check - thats all
[02:23] <jaebird> let me try the Alt-SysRq+1 thing...I'll go dark for a bit
[02:23] <secretlondon> k
[02:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68107 in liferea (universe) "liferea crashed in the background" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68107
[02:37] <jaebird> there is a kernel panic
[02:37] <secretlondon> ok - could you add to the bug what you found out?
[02:37] <jaebird> i took a picture of it and will upload it to bug 6238
[02:37] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 6238 in imake "xmkmf searching cf, tmpl, rules files in wrong directory" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6238
[02:38] <secretlondon> great :)
[02:44] <jaebird> Ok...image is up: "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!"
[02:46] <secretlondon> great - thats a real step forward
[02:47] <jaebird> was there some changes to ACPI in the kernel that could have broken my PC?
[02:47] <secretlondon> I don't know - but I know that give sus something to go on
[02:56] <catalyst> ooh
[02:56] <catalyst> big channel
[02:56] <secretlondon> #ubuntu is bigger
[02:57] <catalyst> #gentoo is probably bigger still
[02:57] <secretlondon> 877 currently in #ubuntu
[02:57] <catalyst> 956 in #gentoo
[02:57] <Nafallo> hmm
[02:57] <catalyst> I wonder if that's a measure of how popular a distro is or how broken
[02:57] <Nafallo> must be a bug?
[02:58] <Nafallo> no, that's a view on how much support is needed for a distro rather.
[02:58] <secretlondon> or the geographical spread of users
[02:58] <catalyst> I should probably shut up now and let people talk about things that are actually on topic
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68109 in Ubuntu "Some library used by skype can freeze system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68109
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68110 in compiz (universe) "None of the keyboard commands work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68110
[03:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68112 in debian-installer (main) "Corrupt libssl package on Kubuntu AMD64 DVD text install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68112
[03:18] <bddebian> Boo
[03:41] <secretlondon> ello
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68113 in Ubuntu "no package for pine" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68113
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68114 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "Scrollpad not working in Edgy (6.10) Mouse functions operate but the scrollpad does not work. Scrollpad works fine in 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68114
[04:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68115 in Ubuntu "nVidia GeForce 6150 has garbage at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68115
[04:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68066 in k3d (universe) "typo in control file prevents installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68066
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68104 in kdemultimedia (main) "Problem of Sound in Kubuntu (Audigy 4 Pro versus Chip Integrated in plate VIA 8237)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68104
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68116 in bzr (main) "test bug ignore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68116
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68117 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Sleep zeros clock G3 ibook" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68117
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68038 in timer-applet (universe) "Default sound too short and low key for an alarm sound." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68038
[06:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68040 in firefox (main) "window.showModalDialog missing/not implemented" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68040
[06:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68118 in Ubuntu "Upon updating, updater requested I uninstall my video driver for X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68118
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68119 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "nodes start in incorrect order" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68119
[07:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68042 in Ubuntu "Maximized window shape weirdness" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68042
[07:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68108 in Ubuntu "saslauthd forces directory permissions that prevent postfix access" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68108
[07:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68018 in tasksel (main) "should not allow to select (or generate a proper error report) conflicting tasks" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68018
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68120 in evolution (main) "Evolution encouters an error while trying to import ".pst" type file created in outlook 2003, This file contains all my mailing related data." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68120
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68121 in xorg-driver-synaptics (main) "Touchpad - Does not turned off while typing on Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi Laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68121
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68122 in evince (main) "Unable to print PDF-files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68122
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68123 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Lock Screen not working anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68123
[08:47] <Kagou> hi
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68125 in kdebase (main) "Screensaver & Wallpaper doesnt work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68125
[09:09] <dholbach> good morning
[09:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67938 in wmnet (universe) "wmnet is not in the path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67938
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68128 in alsa-driver (main) "usb audio device not given index 0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68128
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68129 in python-biopython (universe) "EUtils unusable with the package shipped with Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68129
[10:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68130 in Ubuntu "ssh language environment overridden" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68130
[10:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68131 in Ubuntu "ipv4 forrwarding not working in ubuntu edgy server rc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68131
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68132 in Ubuntu "(K)ubuntu RC on imac G5 rev A: no keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68132
[10:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68133 in nautilus (main) "The icon in the "computer" folder does not allow to copy cds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68133
[10:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68134 in xbindkeys-config (universe) "segfault when key record window is manually closed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68134
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68135 in gnome-screensaver (main) "crashes with dual displays and no xinerama" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68135
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68137 in firefox (main) "Segmentation Fault on Boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68137
[10:42] <pepsiman> dholbach: http://librarian.launchpad.net/4934812/gksu.jpg
[10:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68136 in gdm (main) "gdmgreeter hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68136
[10:44] <dholbach> pepsiman: it'S a different codebase, so i'd say it's a different bug
[10:45] <Kagou> hello ogra
[10:46] <pepsiman> dholbach: gksu uses "gdk_display_get_n_screens", the same as the other 2
[10:47] <dholbach> hmhmhm
[10:47] <dholbach> alright, maybe you're right
[10:47] <pepsiman> dholbach: it's actually libgksu
[11:07] <pepsiman> Lets play spot the obvious mistake.  http://rafb.net/paste/results/HawE0C96.html
[11:13] <GNAM> tomorrow edgy day
[11:13] <GNAM> WOW
[11:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68139 in linux-meta (main) "Atheros support isn't working in 2.6.17-10-generic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68139
[11:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68140 in Ubuntu "Inserting USB device causes system to hang" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68140
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68141 in emacs21 (main) "missing manpages in alternatives" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68141
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68142 in qt-x11-free (main) "qt doesn't work properly due to broken scim-qtimm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68142
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68143 in amarok (main) "Amarok crash on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68143
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68144 in imagemagick (main) "Buffer overflows while processing DCM or PALM images" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68144
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68145 in Ubuntu "RTL8169 NIC data corruption with Edgy server RC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68145
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68146 in Ubuntu "No audio device detected on Apple's eMac" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68146
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68147 in Ubuntu "kubuntu alternate CD, rescue mode: _pSL_sys_getkey: EIO error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68147
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68148 in acpi (main) "IBM X40 Thinkpad fails to suspend/hibernate (edgy with latest updates)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68148
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68149 in yank (universe) "yank is not installable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68149
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68150 in xscreensaver (main) "screensaver crashes X on IBM X40 (opengl related?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68150
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68151 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes on opening gmail (edgy, firefox 2, IBM X40)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68151
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68152 in wyrd (universe) "Wyrd produces an error message on start: "Error in reminders file: "Error reading file ~/.reminders: Can't open file""" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68152
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68153 in dosfstools (main) "fsck.vfat hangs after renaming to FSCK9999.REN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68153
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68154 in wyrd (universe) "Wyrd interface doesn't behave correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68154
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68155 in wyrd (universe) "Wyrd doesn't understand output from 'remind' any more" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68155
[12:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68156 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Edgy can't install new kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68156
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68157 in Ubuntu "boot menu doesn't show 1920x1200 resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68157
[12:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68159 in lyx (universe) "Crash when using the down arrow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68159
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68160 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity installs grub unconditionally in the MBR" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68160
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68162 in Ubuntu "selecting VGA resolution doesn't have any effect (max 1024x768)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68162
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68163 in erlang (universe) "crypto module not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68163
[01:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68164 in xorg (main) "130M    .xsession-errors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68164
[01:09] <jonh_wendell> good morning, folks!
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68165 in cdbs (main) "cdbs-edit-patch doesn''t like .diff patches" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68165
[01:19] <dholbach> hiya jonh_wendell
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68166 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "Cryptodisk not correctly recognized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68166
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68138 in python-defaults (main) "Trying on jamendo to download an album with bittorrent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68138
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68167 in initramfs-tools (main) "Hardcodes list of SCSI drivers" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68167
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68168 in firefox (main) "crash after clicking "save link as"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68168
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68169 in asterisk (universe) "Debug switch wrong in /etc/default/asterisk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68169
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68170 in kdebase (main) "error buliding search index" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68170
[01:38] <dholbach> hmmmm, juicy new bugs
[01:40] <jonh_wendell> dholbach: none fix now will enter in edgy, right?
[01:40] <dholbach> jonh_wendell: hardcore severe fixes, yes
[01:40] <dholbach> the rest will either be edgy-update or feisty
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68171 in tomboy (main) "error in desktop file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68171
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68172 in Ubuntu "[disks-admin]  Free space size line is incorrect." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68172
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68174 in openssl (main) "libcrypto.pc broken" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68174
[02:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68173 in boot (universe) "cannot access tty error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68173
[02:30] <Fujitsu> Woohoo! A bug against boot.
[02:35] <Nafallo> hehe
[02:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68176 in kdesdk (main) "error in desktop file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68176
[02:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68177 in update-manager (main) "it can't install libtowitoko2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68177
[02:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68178 in opencv (universe) "Please upgrade to OpenCV 1.0 rc1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68178
[02:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68179 in gimp (main) "crash when I saved a jpg file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68179
[02:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68180 in firefox (main) "[edgy]  Firefox application icon inconsistent." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68180
[02:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68181 in firefox (main) "[Edgy Eft]  on first startup of firefox, it "blinks" (Starts/closes at the same time) and on second it opens up normally" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68181
[03:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68182 in firefox (main) "JavaScript websites have to reload webpages on actions that shouldn't reload." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68182
[03:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68183 in Ubuntu "Epson CX11FN and C1100 doesn't print on edgy " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68183
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68184 in krb5 (main) "libkrb53, libkadm55 upgraded to version 1.4.3-5ubuntu0.1; krb5-clients, krb5-user left out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68184
[03:46] <Ropechoborra> New bug new bugg!
[03:46] <Ropechoborra> i think =/
[03:49] <Ropechoborra> I got Kubuntu dapper, linux-image-686 after upgrading to edgy the image change to 2.6.17-10-386 but not to 686 (or the new, generic)..
[03:49] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:49] <bddebian> err Boo :-)
[03:51] <Nafallo> hehe
[03:52] <bddebian> Hi Nafallo
[03:52] <Nafallo> bddebian: you should do onjoin-scripts for that or something ;-)
[03:52] <Nafallo> hi bddebian :-)
[03:52] <bddebian> Aye :)
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68185 in eclipse (universe) "Error on start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68185
[04:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68186 in kde-guidance (main) "Display module detects another videocard than xserver-xorg" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68186
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68187 in amarok (main) ""xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers." error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68187
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68188 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2 (universe) "[Edgy]  crash on changing preferences for GnuPG" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68188
[04:20] <jonh_wendell> firefox and epiphany guys, can you look bug 67586?
[04:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67586 in Ubuntu "default homepage nonexistant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67586
[04:20] <jonh_wendell> the reporter says that both start pages are wrong
[04:20] <jonh_wendell> i have no problems here...
[04:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68190 in alsa-lib (main) "dapper to edgy update breaks sound" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68190
[04:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68191 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Guidance Power Managment and Speedstep" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68191
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68193 in Ubuntu "Sony VAIO VGN-S3HP hangs on boot (acpi)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68193
[04:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68195 in evolution (main) "evolution hung on the live dvd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68195
[04:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68196 in Ubuntu "IBM thinkpad A31p: wireless ok in 6.06, not in 6.10." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68196
[04:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68197 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Suspend/blank screen semantics gone funny after upgrade to edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68197
[05:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68198 in usplash (main) "powerpc desktop CD hangs on "press Enter to continue"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68198
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68199 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (main) "Problem with suspend on R60" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68199
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68201 in gnome-orca (main) "No translations for gnome-orca" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68201
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68202 in apt (main) "corrupted file from download, not recoverable without messing about" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68202
[05:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68204 in partman-basicfilesystems (main) "If NTFS journal is unclean, you get no indication that the install isn't happening during the NTFS resize" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68204
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68205 in k3d (universe) "pre-removal script error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68205
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68207 in slab (universe) "Slab applet crashes when dbus shuts down." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68207
[05:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68208 in firefox (main) "Cannot disable mouse gestures" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68208
[05:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68209 in tomboy (main) "no entry in Applications menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68209
[05:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68210 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "linux-image packages should Depend on udev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68210
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68211 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Can't boot normally at edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68211
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68212 in Ubuntu "Bad refresh rate showed in "monitor and display" setup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68212
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68213 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Column customizations not remembered" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68213
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68214 in Ubuntu "Can't setup dual monitor on ATI Radeon X300 and dual flat panels" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68214
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68215 in Ubuntu "Confusing info in "Monitor and Display setup"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68215
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68216 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Crash on Systems that don't report Screen Brightness" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68216
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68217 in python2.4 (main) "Python crashed using Pyrex" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68217
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68219 in openoffice.org (main) "Attached file crashes OOWriter 2.0.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68219
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68220 in Ubuntu "Partition editor window in Kubuntu install is too big for the screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68220
[06:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68218 in usplash (main) "synch rate off on virtual console" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68218
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68221 in nautilus "nautilus bug copy from search window...." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68221
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68222 in Ubuntu "Will not mount SD drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68222
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68223 in oem-config (main) "oem-config-firstboot needs x, but no x in server installs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68223
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68225 in python-biggles (universe) "Biggles package missing most files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68225
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68224 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "OpenOffice artifacts when using fglrx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68224
[06:51] <dholbach> hmmmm, juicy new bugs
[06:52] <dholbach> jonh_wendell: does he have ubuntu-docs installed?
[06:53] <jonh_wendell> dholbach: i just asked it
[06:53] <dholbach> ah cool
[06:53] <jonh_wendell> :)
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68226 in pointless (universe) "buildd cruft left in deb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68226
[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68227 in lineak-defaultplugin (universe) "buildd cruft in deb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68227
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68228 in criawips (universe) "Problem with dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68228
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68229 in kde-systemsettings (main) "administrator mode not always responding" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68229
[07:14] <secretlondon> hi
[07:19] <pradeep> hi secretlondon
[07:20] <secretlondon> hi pradeep
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68230 in firefox (main) "[edgy]  right click for popup menus on status bar triggers menu items" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68230
[07:30] <crimsun> dholbach: is it too late to request a simple rebuild of a universe package to close bug 68225 ? I've verified that simply rebuilding against current Edgy's python2* results in a fixed python-biggles package.
[07:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68225 in python-biggles "Biggles package missing most files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68225
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68231 in kdemultimedia (main) "[edgy]  kmix applet crashes randomly on session start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68231
[07:31] <dholbach> crimsun: ask mdz
[07:37] <secretlondon> is there anything you'd like people to focus on?
[07:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68233 in kde-systemsettings (main) "SAMBA configuration incomplete and very difficult (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68233
[07:54] <palski> Bug #44598 This is fixed nowadays, should I change the status to "fix released"
[07:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 44598 in tiff "jpeg-encoded tiff images can't be viewed or manipulated" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/44598
[07:58] <palski> guess so :)
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68236 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed while running cedega" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68236
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68234 in oem-config (main) "does not configure locales" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68234
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68235 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68235
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68237 in pmount (main) "USB flash drive fails to automount" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68237
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68239 in freetds (main) "Broken link in /usr/lib/libtdsodbc.so" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68239
[08:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68240 in gaim (main) "I can't import list of gadu-gadu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68240
[08:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68238 in ubiquity (main) "magnifying glass cursor gone AWOL from timezone page" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68238
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68241 in firefox (main) "Program Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68241
[08:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68242 in Ubuntu "debian menu not there" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68242
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68243 in ubiquity (main) "manual partitioning still can't create HFS bootstrap partition" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68243
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68247 in update-manager (main) "No option for a ubuntu mirror" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68247
[08:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68244 in kshutdown (universe) "wish hibernate action in kshutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68244
[08:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68245 in Ubuntu "Edubuntu LiveCD doesn't run dhclient" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68245
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68248 in ubiquity (main) "xubuntu--wireless is detected in live cd, but fails to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68248
[08:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68246 in ubiquity (main) "xubuntu--installation window too large for 800x600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68246
[08:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68249 in tvtime (universe) "tvtime didnt save the channel manament" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68249
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68251 in xfce4 (universe) ""Lock screen" "Action Button" does nothing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68251
[09:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68252 in grub-installer (main) "Unable to determine root device" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68252
[09:25] <dufresne1> Wow, you are fast Caroline!
[09:26] <secretlondon> there is about a 10 minute lag between the irc bot and launchpad
[09:26] <Pooh22> I have a problem printing from openoffice on kubuntu edgy, it looks somewhat like https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/33782, but I think openoffice just doesn't see the cups printers from my other machine, should I file a new bugreport?
[09:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 33782 in openoffice.org "Can not print in OpenOffice" [Medium,Unconfirmed]
[09:26] <secretlondon> so I'm not THAT fast
[09:27] <dufresne1> Ok, I see!
[09:28] <secretlondon> Pooh22: I'd file another report with as much detail as you can. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection gives you what we need
[09:29] <Pooh22> ok, tnx secretlondon, checking it right now...
[09:29] <Pooh22> but it's not a hardware problem....
[09:30] <Pooh22> I can print just fine from kprinter
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68253 in asciidoc (main) "New version 8.1.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68253
[09:31] <secretlondon> ok- so just an Ooo bug
[09:31] <secretlondon> i'd submit it anyway - if it is the same the ooo maintaner or someone else will merge
[09:32] <Pooh22> ok
[09:37] <Pooh22> it's become Bug #68256
[09:37] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68256 in openoffice.org "Openoffice doesn't see remote cups printers, just generic printer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68256
[09:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68254 in evolution (main) "alarm icons are not the same" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68254
[09:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68255 in evolution (main) "evo asks for password on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68255
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68257 in totem (main) "totem sidebar very big if last time opened it was maximized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68257
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68259 in gaim-librvp "gaim-librvp removed but new version exist that works with gaim 2.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68259
[09:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68256 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice doesn't see remote cups printers, just generic printer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68256
[09:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68258 in Ubuntu "HAL failed to hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68258
[09:59] <MagicFab> Is it appropriate to report applications that are broken in Edgy after upgrading from Dapper ? (like democracy player or Xara LX). If so, where should I do that ?
[10:00] <MagicFab> I mean, apps that are not packaged and available via the standard repos
[10:00] <secretlondon> we're not interested in things that are not in the repos -you need to report to the people you got the app from
[10:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68260 in epiphany-browser (main) "Epiphany's tooltips are quite annoying" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68260
[10:02] <MagicFab> Ok, but is there any Ubuntu resource to keep track of those ?
[10:04] <secretlondon> how do you mean? they are not part of ubuntu
[10:05] <Nafallo> ehm
[10:06] <Nafallo> MagicFab: we have both of those in our repos AFAIK
[10:07] <Nafallo> MagicFab: for the packages, bug us. for your own stuff, don't.
[10:07] <MagicFab> Geez, calm down. Can I at least ASK !?!?
[10:08] <MagicFab> This is hardly my stuff, but tx. anyways. Just realized Xara has been packaged in Edgy, so will try that.
[10:08] <secretlondon> sure - and we've said that we are only interested in things in the repos
[10:08] <Nafallo> I am calm :-)
[10:08] <secretlondon> we can't support evert deb on the net
[10:08] <MagicFab> which both are, as per your own remarks ... whatever.
[10:08] <Nafallo> I just kept the answer short and useful :-)
[10:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68263 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Edgy Kerenl Panic when I plug my wireless card smc2635w" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68263
[10:24] <trappist> MagicFab: have you tried rebuilding the app in edgy?
[10:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68264 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "sb live 5.1 mixer doesn't control channel values (values look like r/o)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68264
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68265 in nagios2 (universe) "Issues accessing /var/lib/nagios2/rw with www-data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68265
[10:39] <MagicFab> trappist, the point is I updated and they're broken. I felt important to document stuff that breaks when upgrading
[10:40] <trappist> MagicFab: for non-distro-apps, it might actually be more useful (but still not terribly useful) to document apps that don't break.  when you dist-upgrade, you're using a new libc, all new libraries, etc.  if I compile something myself I never expect it to work across distro releases, unless I take care to compile it statically.
[10:41] <MagicFab> this was not stuff I compiled, but binaries provided elsewhere. But in two specific apps that interested me, one has already been packaged/updated and the other seems abandoned (which I'll inquire about)
[10:42] <dholbach> no, you can't report bugs for that
[10:42] <dholbach> if libraries change you can't expect random binary blobs to still work
[10:43] <dholbach> that's why packages use dependencies and stuff gets rebuilt / patched to still work in the distro
[10:44] <MagicFab-away> dholbach, I know all that. My first question was "Is it appropriate to report applications that are broken in Edgy after upgrading from Dapper ? (like democracy player or Xara LX). If so, where should I do that ?"
[10:44] <dholbach> it's unfortunate, yes
[10:44] <dholbach> I think the most useful action would be to request that software being packaged
[10:44] <dholbach> and actively maintained in the distro
[10:45] <MagicFab-away> I guess I should talk about this in -marketing. People expect their apps to work through updated, and if they don't, some kind of warning or explanation is nice.
[10:45] <MagicFab-away> (updates)
[10:45] <dholbach> hum
[10:45] <dholbach> ok... have a nice day
[10:45] <MagicFab-away> would love to elaborate but don't think it's appr. here ;) tx. & l8r
[10:48] <secretlondon> but you didn't get them from us
[10:53] <dholbach> sfllaw: how's the bug and test situation looking for release?
[10:53] <sfllaw> dholbach: If squashfs is resolved, I don't see anything else.
[10:54] <sfllaw> I'm just grinding through tests now.
[10:54] <sfllaw> We need more PPC testers, though.
[10:55] <secretlondon> Is there anything useful I can do? I don't have a PPC so I'm just doing the normal triage
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68267 in xorg (main) "x11-common is uninstallable when debconf method is kde" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68267
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68268 in pkg-create-dbgsym (main) "package-dbgsym should conflict with package-dbg " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68268
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68269 in Ubuntu "Dapper to Edgy Upgrade causes "Failed to load module i810"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68269
[10:56] <dholbach> secretlondon: if you want to do a test install: that's cool
[10:56] <dholbach> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Current
[10:57] <secretlondon> dholbach: I did a test kubuntu yesterday - but I didn't follow those instructions
[10:58] <secretlondon> i'll have a go
[10:58] <dholbach> secretlondon: you ROCK
[10:59] <secretlondon> i only have the kubuntu alt 386 image - it may be too old (dated 23rd oct)
[11:00] <secretlondon> ah yes you want 20061025.1, I won't be able to get that in time :(
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68270 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "mp3 playback" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68270
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68271 in openldap2.2 (main) "slapd starts too late, causing X startup problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68271
[11:00] <secretlondon> unless jigdo co-operates
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68272 in grub (main) ""savedefault" line is deadly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68272
[11:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68273 in firefox (main) "New profile gets invalid home page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68273
[11:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68274 in openssh (main) "please start ssh for single user mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68274
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68275 in linux-meta (main) "Optical Microsoft USB Mouse not recognized in installed Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68275
[11:24] <JamesLove> anyone here willing to give me a quick runthrough on Triaging a bug?
[11:24] <JamesLove> (me first time)
[11:27] <ash211> sure JamesLove
[11:27] <ash211> which one?
[11:27] <JamesLove> 68273
[11:27] <JamesLove> that firefox one
[11:27] <JamesLove> seems an easy one to start with
[11:27] <JamesLove> i first had a quick check for duplicates, didnt see any
[11:28] <gnomefreak> bug 68273
[11:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 68273 in firefox "New profile gets invalid home page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68273
[11:28] <JamesLove> nice shortcut
[11:28] <ash211> ubugtu adds them automatically
[11:28] <JamesLove> so I noticed
[11:28] <gnomefreak> thats a dup iirc
[11:28] <JamesLove> dup?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> duplicate
[11:28] <JamesLove> ah righty
[11:29] <ash211> which bug is it a dup of?
[11:30] <JamesLove> indeed, either my search skills  are lacking me, or there's no dup
[11:32] <ash211> gnomefreak: can you find it?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ash211: sorry wasnt looking for it i will in a few i think its set as firefox in kubuntu but it might be something else it was filed 2 days ago
[11:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68276 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Kernel panic: Syncing with init when trying to boot edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68276
[11:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68278 in php-xml-util (universe) "md5sum in package.xml doesn't match Util.php" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68278
[11:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68279 in Ubuntu "hw_random error when installing edgy-desktop-i386" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68279
[11:41] <gnomefreak> cant find it now :(
[11:42] <JamesLove> I'm using FF2.0 but for me both the directories exist that the user is referring to
[11:44] <JamesLove> Is this referring to a bug in the documentation then? Or in a script that sets up new profiles?
[11:44] <JamesLove> (or is that what i've gotta find out?)
[11:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68280 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "USB Problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68280
[11:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #68281 in Ubuntu "hda_intel warning when installing edgy-desktop-i386" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/68281
[11:56] <secretlondon> rehi
[11:56] <secretlondon> I don't think it set up a user, but I may be going mad so checking in /installer/syslog
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #67747 in firefox (main) "[Edgy]  crash on flash site opening" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/67747


[17:20] <melodie> hi
[17:21] <melodie> I wish to point to this bug, and this related conversation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/+bug/1562877 :: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360859
[17:21] <melodie> it would be nice, if all ^ signs would go above a i e and o when asked to, and not besides in Calligra (Qt?) apps
[17:22] <teward> We... triage bugs - we don't always fix bugs...
[17:22] <melodie> in a French keyboard setup. :)
[17:22] <melodie> hi teward !
[17:22] <teward> also going to add this is in Universe, so...
[17:22] <melodie> nice, if someone knowing kde/qt/calligra (or someone having triage-fu) could take care of it, it would be nice!
[17:22] <teward> melodie: is there a reason you don't poke the Kubuntu people?
[17:22] <melodie> I did
[17:23] <melodie> in #kubuntu-devel
[17:23] <melodie> just I'm never sure who is most relevant to poke. :)
[17:23] <melodie> so I wanted to take a few minutes in my list of things todo, to communicate about it, before I forget or just leave it aside. ;)
[17:24] <melodie> ok, to shower now…
[17:24] <melodie> good afternoon
[20:04] <melodie> good night


[06:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:15] <dagelf> Good morning!
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> hi dagelf
[06:16] <brushdemon> https://i.imgur.com/DYW4SXZ.png
[06:36] <ducasse> morning!
[07:17] <brushdemon> hola
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:47] <pauljw> hi everyone
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Hi pauljw, how's it going today?
[14:02] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj, so far so good, how about you?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> fine, finally some rain , too bad it's our Canada Day Holiday tho
[14:04] <BluesKaj> 149 yrs as a country
[14:05] <pauljw> dang, that's too bad, hope you can don the raingear and enjoy the celebrations anyway...
[14:07] <BluesKaj> well, there's a beer garden tent at the local elks grounds, might check it out later
[14:08] <BluesKaj> damn does kodi ever heat up my gpu, was over 100C a few mins ago
[14:09] <pauljw> ouch
[14:09] <BluesKaj> closed kodi and its back down to 80
[14:10] <pauljw> not familiar with kodi, it that the multi-media center?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> yeah, formerly known as XBMC
[14:12] <BluesKaj> I just use it for internet tv
[14:12] <pauljw> :)
[18:48] <DaniKitten> Hi
[18:48] <DaniKitten> What's your favorite game here?
[18:49] <nacc> DaniKitten: offtopic ?
[18:49]  * nacc doesn't consider that "high quality" :)
[18:49] <DaniKitten> On Ubuntu
[18:49] <DaniKitten> Well, I got Liquidwar, is very good
[18:50] <tsimonq2> nacc: well *technically* it's a favorite *Ubuntu* game, so...  Blowed out a tire .. tomorrow is time enough to see if I can boot the tire's hole .
[22:29] <daftykins> doh!


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[01:00] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r328 oem-config/ (debian/changelog oem-config-prepare):
[01:00] <CIA-18> oem-config: * Add a --quiet option to oem-config-prepare to suppress its
[01:00] <CIA-18> oem-config:  acknowledgement message (and thus the dialog requiring user interaction
[01:00] <CIA-18> oem-config:  if $DISPLAY is set).
[05:19] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2280 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[05:19] <CIA-18> ubiquity: * Strip translation context for imported strings (e.g. "Navigation|_Back")
[05:19] <CIA-18> ubiquity:  at a lower level so that it applies to the KDE frontend too.
[05:21] <CIA-18> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2281 ubiquity/ubiquity/i18n.py: hmm, let's do that in a more sensible place


[00:16] <infinity> phillw: A 486 kernel would do you no good, our userspace targets 686.
[00:17] <infinity> phillw: So, your kernel would boot and then nothing would run.
[00:17] <phillw> hiyas infinity so, can you see any way around 32 bit non-pae and a working kernel?
[00:18] <infinity> phillw: non-pae is an entirely different question than 486.
[00:18] <infinity> phillw: The answer to non-pae is to build your own kernel, we intentionally dropped the support, we won't pick it up again.
[00:19] <infinity> phillw: There are a few PPAs that rebuild the archive kernels as non-pae, if I recall.
[00:19] <infinity> (Sorry, don't know which PPAs, but Google or launchpad's search might know)
[00:19] <infinity> phillw: If you wanted it on your images, it would have to be in the archive, which means a lubuntu dev would need to commit to supporting it, because we won't.
[00:26] <phillw> infinity: could you have a look at http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-image and let me know if you spot a non-pae version?  I'm just trying to get some ideas in my head. As these people have no other option, locking the kernel is the least of their security worries. Having ability to update the browsers is far more important. I do fully understand what you, from the kernel team say in terms of no security updates; but, when stuck between a rock and a hard place, would y
[00:54] <infinity> phillw: Being able to update their browser can be done with 12.04
[00:55] <phillw> infinity: lubuntu did not have an lts back then :) Tech Board prohibited it, for a start and we were still too young to ask :)
[00:55] <infinity> phillw: Not being an LTS doesn't mean your users somehow magically don't get the updates from the archive.
[00:56] <phillw> indeed not, but it does stop the browser updates, which are the most at risk.
[01:02] <phillw> infinity: "The package information was last updated 290 days ago" There are no updates to install.
[01:03] <phillw> infinity: can we swap to another channel, as this is off-topic for kernel? :)
[01:14] <phillw> infinity: a thousand apologies, the VM has just found a shed load of updates that it wants. ::SIGH:: I am really sorry.
[02:20] <phillw> infinity: after update of the 12.04 I have http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-image
[02:20] <phillw> grrrrrr....
[10:43] <ara> hello!
[10:43] <ara> 12.04.4 kernel freeze was scheduled for yesterday
[10:43] <ara> I would like to confirm that it actually happened
[10:43] <ara> thanks!
[13:03] <rtg> smb, cking: are you guys aware of any new grub issues ? I'm updating a kernel in Precise. Its been stuck here for 10 minutes:
[13:03] <rtg> 32503 pts/4    S+     0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests /dev/sda1
[13:03] <rtg> 32508 pts/4    D+     0:00 grub-mount /dev/sda1 /var/lib/os-prober/mount
[13:03] <rtg> 32541 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon
[13:03] <rtg> 32672 ?        S      0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon
[13:03] <cking> new one to me
[13:03] <rtg> ah, I have an outstanding nfs mount I'll bet
[13:03] <smb> Hm... not sure somehow os-prober stuck does ring a faint distant bell
[13:04] <rtg> how about this ? '[403127.854359] nfs: server <IP_ADDRESS> not responding, still trying'
[13:04] <rtg> that server is turned off
[13:05] <smb> Not really sure about the relation. Just that nagging feeling I have seen someone saying something about grub and stuck recently
[13:05] <smb> May have been on #ubuntu-devel or ...
[13:06] <smb> But could be something smart thinking some OS might be on the nfs side
[18:08] <bjf> kamal, can you interpret bug 1163720 for me? as i read it the -proposed kernels do not fix the issue.
[18:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1163720 in Linux "Brightness control broken on XPS13 and 3.8.0-16, 3.8.0-22 and 3.11.0-12" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163720
[18:09]  * kamal reads the tea leaves
[18:10] <bjf> kamal, i can't tell what comment #81 is supposed to be telling me
[18:11] <kamal> bjf -- here's the scoop ...
[18:11] <bjf> this should be *good* :-P
[18:12] <kamal> no
[18:12] <kamal> its not
[18:12] <kamal> this problem still isn't fixed upstream and I got sick of waiting, so (see comment #76) I implemented a boot param ...
[18:13] <kamal> in comment #77, Dan from Dell confirmed that the boot param does resolve the problem (which only affects a small (?) number of XPS13 users, who opt to enable a particular UEFI configuration).
[18:14] <kamal> the boot param fix did get SRU'd for P through S ... that's about the best we're going to be able to do for this issue, until upstream fixes backlight "for good" (hahahaha!)
[18:14] <kamal> it looks to me like commenters #81, #82, #83 didn't try using the new boot param, so (not surprisingly) they saw no change in behavior.
[18:15] <kamal> I'll add a comment to the bug asking them to test that.
[18:15] <bjf> kamal, cool ... i'm good with that
[18:15] <kamal> bjf, you should just clear it from your list
[18:15] <bjf> kamal, i'm not going to give it another thought
[18:15] <kamal> bjf, wish I could say the same :-/
[18:16] <sforshee> the fact that we have so much trouble with friggin' backlights makes me want to weep
[18:18] <mjg59> Well, it doesn't help that people keep trying to fix them with boot parameters
[18:18] <mjg59> Or quirks
[18:23] <kamal> mjg59, I'm not happy about it either, but given the choice between quirk out *one* register set in i915, vs. making hundreds of users suffer another 12 months of broken backlight ...  well, I'll stick by my choice.
[18:25]  * rtg -> lunch
[18:44] <bjf> manjo, can you verify bug 1248233 is fixed?
[18:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1248233 in linux (Ubuntu) "[saucy][armhf] No early printk because there's no defined device tree binding for earlyprintk UART" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1248233
[18:45] <manjo> bjf, yes I did verify that it is fixed ... I can add a comment to that bug with more info
[18:45] <manjo> bjf, give me 20mts
[18:45] <bjf> manjo, just need the tags fixed
[18:45] <bjf> manjo, i'll take care of it
[18:46] <manjo> bjf, you don't need testing info there then ?
[18:47] <bjf> manjo, i just need the tags fixed. that indicates you did the testing.
[18:49] <manjo> bjf, look like you already moved it to done .. thanks I also added some test data
[18:50] <bjf> manjo, ack
[21:13]  * rtg -> EOD