[03:45] <bxnp> for example you want to know if kmail is running do this ps -ef | grep kmail
[03:45] <bxnp> oh beryl, ehm
[03:45] <amayera> hi
[03:45] <amayera> I wanted to ask if it is planned for usplash to support cryptsetup so one can enter his dmcrypt passphrase while still seeing the nice uslpash screen and not the console?
[03:45] <Contrast83> bxnp: It happened before I was using Beryl too though.
[03:45] <bxnp> oke, good
[03:45] <bxnp> we can rulte that out
[03:45] <Contrast83> bxnp: And it occurs on all four systems I've installed Linux on.
[03:45] <bxnp> strange, this is
[03:46] <bigdad1e_> how do i make a dvd iso image?
[03:46] <bxnp> k3b bigdad1e_
[03:46] <bigdad1e_> it only burns already made iso's
[03:46] <beta> !flash
[03:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:46] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:46] <bxnp> no you can create one asswell i believe
[03:47] <bigdad1e_> give me a minute to see
[03:47] <bigdad1e_> nope
[03:48] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: What are you trying to make an image of?
[03:48] <bigdad1e_> a dvd
[03:48] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: Right, but what kind? Video DVD or data?
[03:48] <bigdad1e_> video DVD i want to burn a dvd to watch
[03:49] <bigdad1e_> on my dvd player
[03:49] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: K9Copy.
[03:49] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: And libdvdcss. Which release are you using?
[03:49] <Contrast83> !info k9copy
[03:49] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0~beta1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 630 kB, installed size 1708 kB
[03:49] <bxnp> bigdad1e_:  k3b can make dvd iso
[03:50] <bigdad1e_> kubuntu the newest i believe
[03:50] <bxnp> there is the option only create iso
[03:50] <bxnp> if you go to the burn tab
[03:50] <Contrast83> bxnp: That's not what he needs.
[03:50] <bxnp> oh oke,
[03:50] <Contrast83> At least, I don't think.
[03:50] <bxnp> more the illegal things, like ripping dvd's and make an other iso out of it :)
[03:51] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: Do you want to make a video DVD from an existing DVD or video files on your computers?
[03:51] <bigdad1e_> from a ripped dvd
[03:51] <bigdad1e_> avi based most likely xvid
[03:51] <Contrast83> K. Then K9Copy.
[03:51] <bxnp> well extacly the strange thing is , that you cant legal watch a dvd with kubuntu
[03:51] <Contrast83> Ohh, wait.
[03:51] <Contrast83> Ok, devede.
[03:51] <bxnp> wich is encrypted
[03:51] <Contrast83> !info devede
[03:51] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[03:52] <bigdad1e_> my terminal isnt finding the package
[03:52] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: Wait. So you've already ripped the DVD to video files, and you want to make a video DVD from those files?
[03:53] <bigdad1e_> i downloaded a ripped dvd
[03:53] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: Am I understanding you correctly?
[03:53] <bigdad1e_> i downloaded a ripped dvd sshh and i want to put it onto a dvd to watch it on my tv
[03:53] <soulrider_> bigdad1e_: with k9copy you can already rip them and compress them
[03:53] <soulrider_> i think you need libdecss though
[03:53] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: So what format is the file in?
[03:54] <bigdad1e_> 1 sec
[03:54] <bigdad1e_> xvid
[03:54] <Contrast83> I'm pretty surer devede can handle that.
[03:54] <bigdad1e_> where do i download devede?
[03:55] <soulrider_> isnt it on the repos ?
[03:55] <Contrast83> If you can't find the package, make sure the multiverse repository is enabled.
[03:55] <bigdad1e_> no
[03:55] <soulrider_> p   devede                          - Video DVD creator
[03:55] <soulrider_> it is
[03:55] <bigdad1e_> i have multiverse
[03:55] <Contrast83> It is in the repos.
[03:55] <AaronCampbell> I'm going to be setting up a new Kubuntu system.  I'm planning on using a software raid (level 5) for most things (I have 5 500G drives...I'm not sure if I'll use them all, or just 3 of them), but I'm wondering if I should try to install on the raid?  Or just install on a seperate HDD, and mount the raid at /home
[03:55] <soulrider_> bigdad1e_: do "sudo aptitude install devede"
[03:55] <Contrast83> bigdad1e_: Dapper or Edgy?
[03:56] <AaronCampbell> Also, how does (K)Ubuntu do with raid 5?  Can it handle 5 drives?
[03:56] <soulrider_> AaronCampbell: i have no idea
[03:56] <bigdad1e_> i dont know what verson
[03:56] <soulrider_> maybe try the forums? someone probably asked before
[03:56] <rigved> soulrider_ thanks
[03:56] <soulrider_> bigdad1e_: whats the color on the window decorations? blue or purpleish ?
[03:56] <bigdad1e_> bkue
[03:57] <bigdad1e_> blue
[03:57] <soulrider_> ahh
[03:57] <soulrider_> dapper then
[03:57] <soulrider_> hold on, just to make sure
[03:57] <soulrider_> !version
[03:57] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:57] <soulrider_> there :P
[03:57] <Contrast83> soulrider_: Smart. I'm guessing you figure if someone doesn't know which release they have, they probably don't know how to change their window decorations either?
[03:57] <soulrider_> dont add those >> and <<
[03:58] <bigdad1e_> 6.6 dapper
[03:58] <soulrider_> ^_^
[03:58] <soulrider_> ok
[03:58] <soulrider_> do you know if you enabled multiverse AND universe?
[03:58] <bigdad1e_> my repos cant find devede
[03:58] <soulrider_> or just one
[03:58] <bigdad1e_> yes i had someone do that for me
[03:58] <soulrider_> uhm ok, do this
[03:58] <bigdad1e_> i think both
[03:59] <soulrider_> ah, alright
[03:59] <soulrider_> actually, the repos are not responding for me at the moment
[03:59] <soulrider_> so let me see if i can find a .deb for dapper somewhere
[03:59] <bigdad1e_> soulrider: thanks
[03:59] <gioacchino> how to add command at startup ??
[04:00] <soulrider_> gioacchino: create a shortcut in ~/.kde/autostart/
[04:00] <gioacchino> soulrider_:  shortcut ?
[04:01] <soulrider_> yes a link tot he program
[04:01] <soulrider_> a .desktop file
[04:01] <bigdad1e_> soulrider: ill brb in 3 mins
[04:01] <soulrider_> bigdad1e_: http://ubuntu-repo.iespana.es/dapper/devede_2.6-1getdeb1_all.deb there is a deb, im not sure the language, but im guessing its english
[04:01] <gioacchino> soulrider_:  it run with sudo privileges ?
[04:01] <Contrast83> gioacchino: Open that folder in Konqueror, and drag and drop a shortcut to the desired program into it from the K Menu.
[04:01] <bigdad1e_> thanks
[04:02] <soulrider_> gioacchino: if you want it to run with sudo privileges add sudo and thent he command
[04:04] <Contrast83> gioacchino: Right-click the shortcut you made in ~/.kde/Autostart -> Properties -> Application, and put kdesu at the beginning of the command.
[04:04] <Contrast83> soulrider_: Won't sudo not make the KDE root password prompt come up?
[04:05] <Contrast83> I could be wrong, I'm still a noob. :-\
[04:05] <gioacchino> can I use a sh script ??
[04:05] <Mena> I can upgrade to egdy without renistall kubuntu form first right
[04:05] <gioacchino> in the kade startup folder ?
[04:05] <soulrider_> Contrast83: youre right
[04:05] <Contrast83> gioacchino: As long as it's executable.
[04:05] <soulrider_> it has to be kdesu
[04:05] <soulrider_> gia
[04:06] <soulrider_> gioacchino: not sure
[04:06] <gioacchino> because are numerous command..
[04:06] <Contrast83> Mena: Right. I've heard of varying levels of success with this though. Of course, that was when Edgy first came out. Not sure if they fixed it.
[04:06] <BluesKaj> has anyone had probs with K9copy failing on ISO files ?
[04:06] <beta> !w32codecs
[04:06] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[04:11] <bigdad1e_> soulrider: that pkg wouldnt install correctly
 gioacchino: not sure  sorry I'm not english "not sure"="not work" ??
[04:11] <Contrast83> BluesKaj: You have libdvdcss, right?
[04:11] <Mena> Contrast83, okay and from edgy to fiesty
[04:11] <Contrast83> Mena: No idea. Feisty's still alpha. ;-)
[04:11] <Mena> i know after the  stable  or they will make tests first
[04:11] <Contrast83> Mena: I mean, it's possible, but I don't know how safe it is.
[04:11] <Mena> Contrast83, ok Thaanks
[04:11] <Mena> :)
[04:11] <BluesKaj> yes Contrast83, I used K3B and it also failed, the first time but i worked the 2nd time ...also I use AcetoneISO, which works really well , but I'm still curious why K9Copy failed
[04:11] <Mena> Bye WIth God Bless
[04:11] <gioacchino> soulrider_  "not sure"="not work" ?? I'm not english
[04:11] <rigved> hi can anyone pls suggest an ide for developing php? (not bluefish or quanta)
[04:11] <bigdad1e_> soulrider: whats the link for me to download it the one where i pick which one i nned? not the one you gave me ^?
[04:11] <Contrast83> BluesKaj: Sorry, not sure. K9Copy has always been one of the most reliable applications I use.
[04:11] <bigdad1e_> gioacchino: what language do you speak>
[04:11] <bigdad1e_> ?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> hmmm Contrast83 , maybe a reinstall is in order
[04:11] <bigdad1e_> !it
[04:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:11] <gioacchino> mm on ubuntu-it  nobody is able to help me
[04:13] <bigdad1e_> whats the link to the dapper reos?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> !dapper
[04:14] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[04:14] <bigdad1e_> !repos
[04:14] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:17] <madmonk> hi all
[04:17] <madmonk> i need help
[04:17] <madmonk> i'm writing from a live kubuntu edgy
[04:17] <madmonk> it seems that I can't install it on this machine
[04:18] <madmonk> strange problem
[04:18] <madmonk> qtparted during the installation says that one of my partition is mounted so it doesn't proceed well
[04:18] <madmonk> the fact is the the partition is not mounted at all!!!
[04:19] <madmonk> can anybody help me please?
[04:20] <madmonk> umount says that it can't find /dev/hda2 into mtab
[04:20] <madmonk> and also that the partiotion is not mounted
[04:20] <BluesKaj> madmonk , have you formatted the partition to ext ?
[04:20] <madmonk> actually it is formatted in xfs
[04:20] <Contrast83> madmonk: Not sure. I do all my installs from text-only discs. Not sure if that would help at all.
[04:20] <madmonk> tell me
[04:21] <madmonk> i need to erease thet partiotion
[04:21] <BluesKaj> well, format the partition to ext first , then try the install
[04:22] <madmonk> tried already
[04:22] <madmonk> without success
[04:22] <madmonk> even from konsole
[04:22] <madmonk> with mkfs.ext3
[04:22] <madmonk> it keeps on saying that the partition is mounted
[04:22] <BluesKaj> did you try to install ?
[04:23] <BluesKaj> without formatting
[04:23] <madmonk> nope....because it won't change the right way my partitions!
[04:23] <madmonk> i didn't aply the changes
[04:23] <Contrast83> madmonk: You might try the text-only disc?
[04:24] <madmonk> wait...i'll try to deactivate the partition...
[04:24] <Contrast83> madmonk: Are you wiping the hard drive or keeping one or more partitions?
[04:24] <BluesKaj> or you could try GParted Live CD partition editor. I've had good luck with it .
[04:25] <madmonk> I'm keeping one partition with windows
[04:25] <madmonk> nope...the partition is not active...
[04:26] <Contrast83> Ohh... I had problems when trying to do that even with the text CD. Couldn't find a way around it.
[04:26] <madmonk> holy crap
[04:26] <madmonk> how did u solve it?
[04:27] <madmonk> Contrast83: how did u solve it at least?
[04:27] <Contrast83> I didn't go on a search for a solution or anything-- Just explained to my friend (who I was doing this for) what was going on and they said to wipe Windows. They don't have anything in Windows they need, really. They still have the Windows CD if they decide to go back.
[04:28] <madmonk> well..
[04:28] <madmonk> I understand
[04:28] <madmonk> but it's not a nice solution imho
[04:28] <Contrast83> I completely agree.
[04:28] <madmonk> I need also windows....bad luck
[04:31] <BluesKaj> yeah, sometimes the bulldozer approach works but he may have a windows rescue partition that is interefering ...that was my problem
[04:31] <Contrast83> I know there are tons of people with Ubuntu and Windows partitions. I don't know if they ran into the same problems or not though.
[04:31] <madmonk> well...I use both os since ubuntu breezy...never had that kinda problem before
[04:31] <madmonk> i guess it's an edgy's problem
[04:31] <BluesKaj> well madmonk, I think the GParted Live Boot CD can help you...it's much more effective than Qparted and more stable
[04:31] <madmonk> i think i'll try to format that partition from my dapper
[04:31] <Apo_99> help me
[04:31] <Apo_99> apa bisa main ragnarok di kubuntu
[04:32] <SmokeyD> what language is that Apo_99
[04:32] <BluesKaj> !gr
[04:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[04:32] <SmokeyD> :)
[04:32] <madmonk> BluesKaj: do u mean the other kubuntu cd?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> no madmonk, it;s a seperate Live CD  a few hundred megabytes
[04:37] <BluesKaj> madmonk, http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gparted
[04:37] <BluesKaj> madmonk, http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gparted
[04:37] <madmonk> ok
[04:40] <madmonk> wow!!!
[04:40] <x86_> woo
[04:40] <madmonk> I don't know why...but now it's working fine!!
[04:40] <madmonk> thanx
[04:40] <eagles0513875> what was ur issue monk
[04:40] <madmonk> disconnecting now...
[04:40] <rigved> hi all... can somebody please tell me how to change the permissions on a linux drive?
[04:40] <rigved> pls help
[04:41] <jeff_> @rigved what do you mean by change permissions
[04:41] <rigved> as in i cant copy any files in it
[04:42] <rigved> jeff_ i ve created this new partition table from a windows drive
[04:43] <lnxkde> I need help
[04:43] <lnxkde> I unplgged my machine when it freazed thankx too beryl  :/
[04:43] <lnxkde> and now my fat32 partition with all my media is not writable
[04:43] <rigved> jeff_ the windows drive is thus now a linux partition /dev/sda4
[04:43] <lnxkde> and when loading it starts to send a lot of sibols
[04:43] <lnxkde> :/
[04:43] <rigved> jeff_ it has a hard disc icon
[04:44] <lnxkde> how can I check my fat32 partition for errors in the konsole?
[04:44] <bentob0x> I'm getting this error when I use adept manager
[04:44] <bentob0x> "There was an error comitting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"
[04:44] <jeff_> can you copy and paste the line in your /etc/fstab file relating to the drive. im assuming thats the problem.
[04:45] <rigved> jeff_ r u refering to me?
[04:45] <jeff_> yeah
[04:46] <jeff_> @inxde try fsck http://www.adminschoice.com/docs/fsck.htm
[04:46] <rigved> jeff_ /dev/sda4	/home/rigved/space reiserfs defaults	0	0
[04:46] <rigved> space is that hard disc icon
[04:50] <rigved> jeff_ any idea brother
[04:51] <clau85> hello. I'm using Kubuntu edgy and I want to install sun-java with adept. but I can't accept the licence in the terminal emulator because I can't input anything
[04:56] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: sibols?
[04:57] <bentob0x> anybody could help me please?
[04:57] <bentob0x> "There was an error comitting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"
[04:57] <bentob0x> I tried to install some debian packages yesterday for my brother HL5140
[04:57] <jeff_> @rigved yeah try adding a few spaces in there for starters then umount that partition and remount it and try again.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> bentob0x: do it from konsole
[04:58] <bentob0x> i tried, but I'm getting this then: E: The package hl5140lpr needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[04:58] <DaSkreech> bentob0x: delete it from /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:03] <bentob0x> ?
[05:03] <soulrider> hi
[05:03] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: simbols
[05:03] <lnxkde> :s
[05:03] <bentob0x> I have two subfolders in archives
[05:03] <lnxkde> lnxkde: anyway I found a program that fixes the problems :/
[05:03] <bentob0x> sorry I have partial as subfolder and lock
[05:03] <DaSkreech> bentob0x: find the .deb for package in that folder
[05:03] <bentob0x> its not there
[05:03] <DaSkreech> bentob0x: other than that it's empty?
[05:03] <bentob0x> ls -al doesn't show any packages
[05:03] <bentob0x> yep
[05:03] <bentob0x> only one folder and one file
[05:03] <DaSkreech> do an update and try again I guess
[05:03] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: What's it called?
[05:03] <xardias> now this is what i call a nice OS.. http://files.xardias.net/images/desktop/snapshot1.jpg KDE can be so sexy ;)
[05:03] <xardias> http://files.xardias.net/images/desktop/snapshot2.jpg
[05:03] <bentob0x> what version is that xardias?
[05:03] <phux> hi
[05:03] <xardias> bentob0x: is 3.5.5, i just replaced the window manager with beryl.
[05:03] <bentob0x> :)
[05:03] <bentob0x> nice
[05:03] <xardias> well its the beryl svn version.. not that stable.. but really cool ;)
[05:03] <DaSkreech> xardias: What does the cellotaped photo?
[05:05] <xardias> it does erm.. nothing. its my wallpaper ;)
[05:05] <DaSkreech> Damn You!!! :-P
[05:05] <DaSkreech> That would be really cool :)
[05:08] <DaSkreech> xardias: Nice skin for kopete
[05:08] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[05:08] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:08] <DaSkreech> !it | Gmx. Read for italian help
[05:08] <ubotu> Gmx. Read for italian help: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:09] <gmx> daskreech i've understand
[05:09] <xardias> DaSkreech: its not kopete. its jabbin, a jabber client.
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Ok Just checking :)
[05:09] <gmx> xD
[05:09] <gmx> i want an help for my problem
[05:09] <DaSkreech> xardias: You are using it as an ICQ gateway?
[05:09] <xardias> DaSkreech: yes
[05:09] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:10] <xardias> DaSkreech: well it has some missing features (away messages, and stuff like this) but i can chat with it.
[05:11] <gmx> i want to know for write the download's file in directory on windows machine
[05:11] <gmx> this 2 machine is in lan
[05:11] <gmx> and the hd of machine window is share
[05:12] <BluesKaj> !samba
[05:12] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:12] <gmx> i've installed samba
[05:12] <gmx> and i see the directory of window machine
[05:12] <BluesKaj> does it mount ?
[05:12] <gmx> but when i write directory smb//eccecc
[05:13] <gmx> amule don't work
[05:13] <DaSkreech> gmx: is it a NTFS drive?
[05:13] <gmx> yes
[05:13] <gmx> DaSkreech:
[05:13] <DaSkreech> !ntfs
[05:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:13] <gmx> thanks
[05:13] <DaSkreech> !ntfs-36 | gmx hope this helps.
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-36 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <DaSkreech> !ntfs-3g | gmx hope this helps.
[05:13] <ubotu> gmx hope this helps.: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:15] <BluesKaj> gmx why amule ?
[05:16] <jeff_> why would you need ntfs-3g for talking to a remote windows machine or has i missed something.
[05:16] <srecko> hello
[05:17] <ssickle> Has anyone had their keyboard stop working with the last update of the fiesty packages?
[05:18] <eagles0513875> jeff ntfs3g give u read write access
[05:19] <eagles0513875> if u dont want to be able to edit stuff that is on a remote machine dont bother with it
[05:19] <BluesKaj> yeah jeff_ exactly ...confusing the issue with the ntfs-3g  suggestion, imo.
[05:20] <eagles0513875> i have to say i love ntfs 3g though
[05:20] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875 , on the same pc yeah, but a networked one?
[05:20] <eagles0513875> yes
[05:20] <eagles0513875> wait
[05:20] <eagles0513875> oh wait
[05:20] <eagles0513875> jeff u would have to set up samba
[05:20] <jeff_> you probably have the wrong permissions set on the windows box.
[05:20] <BluesKaj> I write the wifes windows pc all the time, don't use ntfs-3g on it
[05:21] <eagles0513875> for me its duel boot so i have to have ntfs3g
[05:21] <eagles0513875> wouldnt he have to setup samba
[05:21] <BluesKaj> yup, he has
[05:21] <eagles0513875> what bout u blue
[05:21] <jeff_> yeah he said he has already and that he can see the shares but cant write to them.
[05:22] <KaoticEvil> how can i get a list of running processes thru konsole?
[05:22] <BluesKaj> i have ntfs-3g , cuz i dual boot too , and i use samba as well
[05:22] <eagles0513875> kaotic just hit ctrl esc
[05:22] <KaoticEvil> eagles0513875: ksysguard isnt working properly
[05:22] <eagles0513875> whats wrong with it
[05:22] <jeff_> or try ps -ax or even top
[05:23] <KaoticEvil> thanks :)
[05:23] <KaoticEvil> thats what i need jeff_
[05:24] <JohnFlux> KaoticEvil: what's not working properly with ksysguard?
[05:25] <eagles0513875> jeff do u have samba setup
[05:25] <jeff_> nope no windows machines around here.
[05:25] <eagles0513875> so u running only linux on ur network
[05:25] <KaoticEvil> JohnFlux: it shows no process list, and memory/swap usage is nothing but 8's
[05:26] <jeff_> dont have a network, the question was asked by gmx
[05:26] <mastermind> hey guys...if  u have downloaded a file from adept where would it get stored..?????
[05:27] <stdin> mastermind: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:29] <mastermind> stdin: how to open it??? do i have to run in an terminal window
[05:29] <chijin> only debs are stored in that directory
[05:29] <chijin> if you want to run the actual software you installed through adept, it's not there
[05:30] <chijin> mastermind: what did you install from adept?
[05:30] <stdin> mastermind: open what?
[05:30] <mastermind> it was 3d chess game chijin
[05:30] <chijin> mastermind: then look at your menu for games, it's probably there
[05:30] <stdin> mastermind: the packages you install are accessed from the KMenu
[05:31] <eagles0513875> gmx what kinda machines u got on ur net
[05:31] <mastermind> i dont find a game in kmenu
[05:32] <chijin> mastermind: games -> board games -> ?
[05:32] <stdin> mastermind: try running kbuildsycoca, that should update your KMenu
[05:34] <mastermind> command not found:stdin
[05:34] <mastermind> ya its a board game..:chijin
[05:35] <stdin> mastermind: how did you run it
[05:35] <DaSkreech> mastermind: what was it called?
[05:35] <chijin> mastermind: type '3dchess &' in terminal
[05:35] <mastermind> in a terminal window and in a run window
[05:36] <stdin> mastermind: if you have kde installed, then you have it, /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca
[05:38] <xardias> well. does anyway know a way to make KDE widgets "smaller"? is there a global DPI setting which affects all widgets or something like that?
[05:38] <xardias> compared to windows windows at the same resolution KDE has really big controls and default font sizes..
[05:39] <xardias> strip out one windows in that scentence..
[05:39] <mastermind> sorry stdin..i din install kde,,iam doin it now..
[05:39] <stdin> mastermind: huh?
[05:39] <chijin> :-D
[05:40] <stdin> mastermind: you are running kubuntu aren't uou?
[05:40] <stdin> mastermind: you don't need/shouldn't install the "kde" package in adept
[05:40] <mastermind> ya...i din know the basics of wat to install and not ...sorry its ma ignorance..
[05:41] <mastermind> sorry i dont get u..stdin
[05:42] <stdin> mastermind: if you have kubuntu installed, you have kde, don't install the "kde" package in adept, you don't need it and it can mess things up
[05:44] <mastermind> oh...iam installing it...u should tat u should tat u should have kde,then i looked at adept ,i found kde for games ,applications..and then i installed it..
[05:44] <mastermind> its gonna be a problem???stdin
[05:45] <stdin> mastermind: what package did you just install, what was it called?
[05:46] <mastermind> kde foe games and other applications and kde for deskop environment
[05:55] <Apo_99> how to install wineX at kubuntu
[05:57] <Tm_T> !wine | Apo_99
[05:57] <ubotu> Apo_99: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:57] <stdin> wineX ?
[05:58] <Tm_T> stdin: old stuff
[05:58] <stdin> ahh
[05:59] <Tm_T> stdin: I might remember wrong but winex was fork of wine and then cedega was fork of winex
[05:59] <Tm_T> but that was long time ago
[05:59] <stdin> right
[06:00] <SmokeyD> If you need Wine working out of the box it may be worth buying CrossOverOffice, which is a commercial version of Wine with a nice interface and without the hassle of getting everything setup correctly (which can be tedious in Wine)
[06:00] <SmokeyD> at least it used ton be a hassle
[06:00] <SmokeyD> didn't try anymore the last year or something since I already have Crossover Office
[06:00] <SmokeyD> :)
[06:00] <Tm_T> SmokeyD: no hassle here, apt-get install wine -> run stuff
[06:01] <SmokeyD> Tm_T, I remember a year or two ago that there was a lot of shit getting the right ddl's and stuff
[06:01] <Tm_T> I try wine ~once a month
[06:01] <stdin> wineconfig lets you tweak the rest
[06:01] <Tm_T> SmokeyD: true, it was back then
[06:01] <SmokeyD> ok
[06:01] <SmokeyD> cool
[06:01] <SmokeyD> then I'll try Wine again
[06:01] <SmokeyD> :)(
[06:01] <Tm_T> )(
[06:01] <SmokeyD> I have a very old version of Crossover Office anyway
[06:01] <SmokeyD> :)
[06:01] <waylandbill> SmokeyD: I run a custom vncviewer right after a apt-get wine. works fine.
[06:02] <SmokeyD> cool
[06:02] <Tm_T> I wonder how cygwin does run in wine
[06:02] <SmokeyD> is there DirectX support in Wine nowadays? (Like in Cedega)
[06:02] <Tm_T> SmokeyD: yes, partly
[06:02] <SmokeyD> cool
[06:03] <waylandbill> Tm_t, SmokeyD: not dx9 yet though
[06:03] <Tm_T> SmokeyD: some games work very well, some doesn't at all :)
[06:03] <MuJ> frozen throne works like a charm ^_^
[06:03] <myTB|Tanuva> diablo2 too
[06:03] <Tm_T> waylandbill: in good level atleast
[06:03] <Tm_T> MuJ: mooh mooh
[06:03] <SmokeyD> cool
[06:03] <MuJ> Tm_Cow
[06:03] <myTB|Tanuva> vice city doesnt for me, although its said everywhere
[06:04] <waylandbill> sooner or later for dx9 I guess. :-)
[06:04] <myTB|Tanuva> ahm... how may I find out if libsensors was compiled with sysfs support?
[06:04] <nova> OUI
[06:05] <Tm_T> waylandbill: http://winehq.org/site/status_directx
[06:09] <pixi> HI everybody!.. just got a message from my ISP.. about me using en bot called emech, likely for DdoS
[06:09] <pixi> what's up with that?
[06:10] <myTB|Tanuva> if you dont use emech, its possible that its fishing
[06:11] <pixi> can you explain further please?
[06:11] <pixi> fishing? :)
[06:11] <myTB|Tanuva> hm... DO you use emech?
[06:11] <myTB|Tanuva> ah no its typed phishing. I always think of the german word "Fisch" what means 'fish'...
[06:11] <pixi> oh.. no.. not that I'm aware of :P.. I'm just using the irc client that came with KDE. konversation
[06:12] <pixi> hehe :D
[06:13] <pixi> the message from irc.undernet.org (the oparator there reported my IP to my OSP) goes as follows:
[06:13] <kunwon1> your box could be compromised
[06:13] <SmokeyD> hey guys, is wine not available in Kubuntu feisty?
[06:13] <pixi> "(...) The exploit appears to have been installed through a hole running on its webmin package, that runs normally on port 1000(...)"
[06:13] <kunwon1> you have to add repositories
[06:13] <kunwon1> smokeyd
[06:14] <SmokeyD> ok, which one?
[06:14] <kunwon1> there are details on the WINE website, they have their own repos for deb/ubuntu
[06:14] <stdin> SmokeyD: universe
[06:14] <kunwon1> or, universe
[06:14] <myTB|Tanuva> ahm... how may I find out if libsensors was compiled with sysfs support?
[06:14] <Tm_T> SmokeyD: packages.ubuntu.com helps when you need to find packages :)
[06:14] <stdin> SmokeyD: or apt:/ in konqueror :)
[06:14] <myTB|Tanuva> but the wine repos contain the newer packages
[06:15] <stdin> myTB|Tanuva: nope
[06:15] <pixi> kunwon: how do I go about checking if I'm compromised with this bot-thing?... I don't even use port 10000 for webmin.. port 10000 is routed to my set top box :S :P
[06:15] <stdin> myTB|Tanuva: the ubuntu one is the most recent actually (for feisty)
[06:15] <myTB|Tanuva> for feisty... that may be true
[06:16] <kunwon1> pixi, if that's the case, then it may yet be a phishing attempt
[06:16] <fdoving> pixi: check if /var/tmp/.cache exists, is there any content?
[06:16] <geniusvicks> how do I add a program to the Apps menu in the desktop
[06:17] <pixi> no there isn't a .cache
[06:17] <pixi> neither in my server or my pc
[06:17] <pixi> only kdecache-<username>
[06:20] <fdoving> pixi: ok, install the package 'chkrootkit' and run the command 'chkrootkit' in a konsole shell as root (with sudo)
[06:20] <pixi> fdoving: ok.. I'll do that
[06:20] <epimeth> I lost my hda's!!!!!!
[06:21] <epimeth> hda is now sda....
[06:21] <epimeth> what is hdc???
[06:21] <epimeth> cuz sdc didn't work :-(
[06:22] <epimeth> anyone! please! my music!!!!
[06:22] <DaSkreech> epimeth: calm down
[06:22] <DaSkreech> What are you doing?
[06:22] <epimeth> :-)
[06:23] <epimeth> I'm trying to mount what was until a minute ago hdc
[06:23] <epimeth> hdc 1,2,3,5,6
[06:23] <epimeth> the device, aparently, does not exist
[06:23] <epimeth> hda1 and hda2 did not, either...
[06:23] <DaSkreech> epimeth: can you confirm that?
[06:23] <pixi> fdoving: ok, I did that.. and both my server and my pc returned not-found/not-infected.. etc at every line
[06:23] <epimeth> mount told me that sd3 was mounted as /
[06:24] <epimeth> so I changed hda1 2 to sda1 2 and that works
[06:25] <epimeth> DaSkreech: confirm that what?
[06:25] <pixi> fdoving: or how am I supposed to interpret this chkroot output?.. is it supposed to give me a "WARNING" or something?
[06:25] <pixi> eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[5222] )
[06:25] <pixi> I got that for instance
[06:25] <pixi> under a Checking: line
[06:26] <Jezzuz> ello
[06:26] <Jezzuz> recently changed my monitor with another and xfce refuses to show an option for the 1024-resolution ... is that somthing common ? already checked xorg.conf ... there the res is listed
[06:26] <pixi> fdoving: but I don't think that really is anything
[06:27] <fdoving> pixi: you should check. install the package 'debsums'
[06:28] <DaSkreech> epimeth: that it's gone
[06:28] <DaSkreech> epimeth: are you comfortable with the terminal?
[06:28] <epimeth> DaSkreech: very
[06:28] <fdoving> pixi: then run 'debsums dhcp3-client' in a konsole.
[06:29] <pixi> fdoving:running.. this is taking time :P
[06:29] <pixi> oh
[06:29] <pixi> iI just wrote 'debsums' <enter>
[06:29] <fdoving> pixi: you can run a complete check later, first check just that package. cancel with ctrl-c.
[06:30] <pixi> fdoving: done.. all ok
[06:30] <pixi> with the dhcp3-client I mean.. I never did a full scan
[06:30] <DaSkreech> epimeth: ok and /dev/hd <tab> <tab> gives you nothing?
[06:30] <fdoving> pixi: good, then dhclient3 is OK. did chkrootkit say anything else?
[06:31] <epimeth> DaSkreech: okay... checked through /dev/ again... noticed that sdb had 1-6... mounted those and checked... it was it
[06:32] <epimeth> DaSkreech: why would hda -> sda and hdc -> sdb ???
[06:32] <fdoving> pixi: can you make a list of all processes, 'ps aux > $HOME/process-list.txt' and publish it somewhere (like rafb.net/paste) - i can see if there are any processes i don't recognize.
[06:33] <fdoving> pixi: first, 'debsums procps'. to make sure the 'ps' command isn't compromised.
[06:33] <DaSkreech> epimeth: SATA drives?
[06:33] <pixi> fdoving: no nothing particular
[06:33] <pixi> fdoving: just not-founds and etc
[06:34] <pixi> fdoving: ok.. jus a minute
[06:35] <epimeth> DaSkreech: IDE
[06:35] <DaSkreech> epimeth: Confused IDE controller? :-)
[06:37] <Skuller> the dvd's which i burnt in nero as multisession (gave a warnin b4 burning that they wont be read in other os's cept xp sp2)...any probs in kubuntu with their handling?
[06:38] <pasquale> ciao
[06:38] <bobesponja> hey all
[06:38] <pasquale> sono nuovo qui
[06:38] <pasquale> posso chiedervi una cosa_
[06:39] <bobesponja> I reboot my winxp box and now when I do ls /media/samba_share I get ' Invalid slot'
[06:39] <pixi> fdoving
[06:39] <pasquale> ei c-[ qualcuno_
[06:39] <pixi> fdoving: http://pixtor.no-ip.com/
[06:39] <bobesponja> how can I get my samba share back?
[06:39] <pasquale> ma qui siete tutti inglesi
[06:39] <pasquale> Im pasquale
[06:39] <pasquale> hello
[06:40] <pasquale> I living in italy
[06:41] <fdoving> pixi: checking.
[06:43] <fdoving> pixi: can't see anything evil.
[06:43] <fdoving> pixi: are you up2date on updates?
[06:44] <pixi> fdoving: on my pc.. yes... on my server.. no.. not very
[06:45] <fdoving> pixi: i belive the server (the one running pixtor.no-ip.com to the public) would be the obvious target.
[06:46] <pixi> yeah.. :).. I figured as much myself..  But I've changed the root password and my user pass..  well.. yeah.. what's left?.. a total reformat and fresh updated install?
[06:46] <pixi> I don't seem to be able to find anything open
[06:47] <pixi> I have a very limited set of ports open to the server
[06:47] <bobesponja> anybody knows how can I get my samba share back?
[06:47] <bobesponja> I reboot my winxp box and now when I do ls /media/samba_share I get ' Invalid slot'
[06:47] <pixi> could it be that my windows machines are infected?
[06:48] <fdoving> pixi: that is more likely. but some of the attackers use perl/php cgi scripts to access your server with apaches privileges.
[06:49] <fdoving> pixi: badly written scripts can do that to you. there was a problem in awstats.pl some time ago.
[06:49] <pixi> fdoving: yeah.. the operator claimed the hole could be in webmin.. which is based on cgi scripts
[06:50] <pixi> fdoving: I think I'll just shut down webmin.. I never use it really.. the console is much mor usable to me :P
[06:51] <fdoving> pixi: sounds like a plan.
[06:51] <pixi> fdoving: well thanks for your time :).. it was very.. educational :D.. see ya!
[06:52] <fdoving> pixi: my pleasure :)
[06:54] <PhinnFort> something is very wrong...
[06:54] <PhinnFort> every time i open a new tab in konqueror, a konsole opens
[06:56] <PhinnFort> everytime i use a ctrl+[anything] , a konsole opens...
[06:56] <PhinnFort> ctrl+v, ctrl+t, etc.
[06:57] <BluesKaj> you've got konsole linked to all apps
[06:57] <PhinnFort> only konqi, it seems
[06:57] <PhinnFort> but i haven't changed any of my shortcuts
[06:58] <PhinnFort> it seems it's only ctrl+c and ctrl+t
[06:58] <miltos> hi ppl:-)
[06:59] <rigved> hi... can anyone pls help me with enabling write permissions to a hard disc
[06:59] <miltos> finally i managed to print to my printer HP PSC 1400 from Kubuntu attached to a Windowz box....
[06:59] <PhinnFort> rigved: ntfs?
[07:00] <rigved> no just a sec pls PhinnFort
[07:00] <rigved> i ll see
[07:00] <root_> zzz
[07:00] <root_> zz
[07:00] <rigved> PhinnFort: it was a ntfs windows partition which i ve changed to a linux partition
[07:01] <PhinnFort> rigved: is it an internal or external harddrive?
[07:01] <rigved> internal
[07:01] <rigved> reiserfs
[07:01] <PhinnFort> and you can't write to it?
[07:01] <miltos> For those that HP PSC 1400 hooked to a Windowz doesn't work uncheck the bidirectional communication, and it will print like a charm...
[07:01] <rigved> no
[07:01] <rigved> PhinnFort do u know how it can be done
[07:02] <PhinnFort> can you paste the output of "dmesg | tail"
[07:02] <rigved> ya sure
[07:02] <PhinnFort> !paste
[07:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:02] <PhinnFort> just in case;)
[07:02] <rigved> [17179658.984000]  Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8
[07:02] <rigved> [17179658.984000]  NET: Registered protocol family 31
[07:02] <rigved> [17179658.984000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[07:02] <PhinnFort> !paste | rigved
[07:02] <ubotu> rigved: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:03] <rigved> [17179658.984000]  Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[07:03] <PhinnFort> rigved: rather do "dmesg | grep hd"
[07:03] <rigved> [17179659.032000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8
[07:03] <rigved> [17179659.032000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[07:03] <rigved> [17179659.064000]  Bluetooth: HIDP (Human Interface Emulation) ver 1.1-mh1
[07:03] <rigved> [17179659.108000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[07:03] <rigved> [17179659.108000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[07:03] <rigved> [17179659.108000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7
[07:03] <rigved> [17179574.292000]      ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
[07:03] <rigved> [17179574.292000]      ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
[07:03] <rigved> [17179575.028000]  hda: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[07:03] <rigved> [17179575.944000]  hda: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33)
[07:03] <rigved> [17179576.352000]  SCSI device sda: 78242976 512-byte hdwr sectors (40060 MB)
[07:03] <rigved> [17179576.352000]  SCSI device sda: 78242976 512-byte hdwr sectors (40060 MB)
[07:04] <PhinnFort> rigved: rather do "dmesg | grep -i reiser", and please use the pastebin
[07:04] <PhinnFort> :D
[07:04] <PhinnFort> !paste
[07:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:04] <DigitDial> Pastebin seems to be a neat little service. I'm likin it.
[07:05] <PhinnFort> !perms
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about perms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:05] <PhinnFort> !permissions
[07:05] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[07:06] <miltos> does beryl run on any 3D accelerating video card?
[07:06] <PhinnFort> miltos: depends
[07:06] <jeff_> ati support sucks hope you have a nvidia card
[07:06] <PhinnFort> miltos: if you have 3d-acceleration, you should be able to get it working no matter what card you have
[07:06] <PhinnFort> with xgl
[07:06] <DigitDial> Personally, I haven't been able to get it to work properly on an ATI X1950XTX.
[07:06] <PhinnFort> *3d-acc working under ubuntu, that is
[07:07] <miltos> PhinnFort, xgl is different from beryl?
[07:07] <rigved> PhinnFort i did that thing and used the pastebin
[07:07] <PhinnFort> jeff_: i have an ati working perfectly, with aiglx
[07:07] <DigitDial> That's just me though, I'm sorta noobish.
[07:07] <PhinnFort> rigved: now, give me the URL to the paste you pasted;)
[07:07] <rigved> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11538/
[07:08] <PhinnFort> miltos: XGL is a program that enables all those cool effects, but it's replaced by AIGLX which is built into the graphics server (Xorg)
[07:08] <PhinnFort> unfortunately AIGLX isn't supported by all drivers
[07:08] <PhinnFort> rigved: thanks;)
[07:08] <rigved> PhinnFort thanks 2 u man for helping out
[07:08] <PhinnFort> rigved: no problem
[07:09] <PhinnFort> rigved: can you try to run Konqueror (file manager) in root mode?
[07:09] <PhinnFort> I think it's under "System" on the K-menu
[07:10] <rigved> PhinnFort how do i do that.. is Konqueror under sytem?
[07:10] <PhinnFort> rigved: if it isn't there, you can hit "alt+f2" and type in "kdesu konqueror"
[07:10] <rigved> ok
[07:10] <PhinnFort> then hit enter
[07:10] <PhinnFort> enter your password and click "ok"
[07:10] <rigved> PhinnFort ok i did that
[07:11] <PhinnFort> now you should be able to browse your filesystem
[07:11] <PhinnFort> rigved: have you set a mount-point for your harddrive?
[07:11] <miltos> is there any CAD application running on kubuntu?
[07:11] <rigved> no :(
[07:11] <rigved> i cant even see that hard disc anyumore
[07:11] <PhinnFort> rigved: in Konqueror, go to the address "/"
[07:12] <rigved> ok
[07:12] <PhinnFort> then go into the folder "media"
[07:12] <rigved> ok
[07:12] <PhinnFort> is there any folders there?
[07:12] <rigved> CDROM
[07:12] <PhinnFort> only cdrom?
[07:12] <rigved> ya
[07:12] <PhinnFort> try going to the address "media:/"
[07:12] <rigved> PhinnFortit says does not exizt
[07:12] <PhinnFort> now you should see all your harddrives
[07:13] <PhinnFort> did you type correctly?    media:/
[07:13] <rigved> PhinnFort oops so sorry
[07:13] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:13] <rigved> PhinnFort typed it wiht an / in the beginning
[07:13] <PhinnFort> no problem
[07:13] <rigved> PhinnFort ok it has listed all the discs
[07:13] <PhinnFort> "media:/" is a special virtual folder containing your disks
[07:14] <PhinnFort> rigved: is your new reiser disk there?
[07:14] <pollyo> Hello
[07:14] <rigved> PhinnFort o ok... do i now just chnge the permissions here
[07:14] <rigved> yes
[07:14] <PhinnFort> can you go into it?
[07:14] <PhinnFort> and can you change files there?
[07:14] <rigved> yes... even the permissions thing is not disabled
[07:14] <PhinnFort> can you create new files there?
[07:14] <pollyo> Anyone know if you can run windows in something like quem underlinux?  I've ran linux with quem under windows and now I want to see if it works the other way.
[07:14] <rigved> PhinnFort woooooaaaah
[07:15] <PhinnFort> pollyo: yes
[07:15] <rigved> PhinnFort yes i can!!!
[07:15] <pollyo> PhinnFort: Great.
[07:15] <PhinnFort> rigved: go back to "media:/" and right click on the disk and click "properties"
[07:15] <rigved> PhinnFort can i just change its permissions from here
[07:15] <rigved> ya
[07:15] <pollyo> PhinnFort: Do you have any suggestions on what to search for to find information on it?
[07:15] <PhinnFort> rigved: then change the permissions
[07:15] <PhinnFort> pollyo: google for qemu windows
[07:15] <PhinnFort> maybe add xp or 2k
[07:15] <pollyo> PhinnFort: Ok!  will do.  Thank you.
[07:16] <PhinnFort> !qemu
[07:16] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:16] <PhinnFort> !qemu | pollyo
[07:16] <ubotu> pollyo: please see above
[07:16] <pollyo> PhinnFort: Even better.  Thanks.
[07:16] <PhinnFort> np
[07:16] <rigved> PhinnFort hey thank you so much....
[07:16] <PhinnFort> rigved: you're welcome;)
[07:17] <rigved> PhinnFort i m able to do all that i want here.. can i just ask one more last question
[07:17] <PhinnFort> ok
[07:17] <PhinnFort> you're granted one last question;)
[07:17] <alexicon> !jack
[07:17] <ubotu> jack: Rip and encode CDs with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1+cvs20050801-11 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 580 kB
[07:17] <rigved> PhinnFort i m developing PHP sites and only after giving r w e permissions on all the files can i view them in my local browser
[07:18] <alexicon> :/
[07:18] <rigved> PhinnFort now when i upload them back to server wud that be a security hassle
[07:18] <PhinnFort> !jackd
[07:18] <ubotu> jackd: JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.101.1-1 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 352 kB
[07:18] <PhinnFort> rigved: you mean you have a local webserver?
[07:18] <rigved> yes
[07:18] <rigved> PhinnFort apacje
[07:18] <rigved> oops apache
[07:19] <PhinnFort> rigved: try setting only world read
[07:19] <PhinnFort> just r
[07:19] <rigved> PhinnFort but wud that let me view them in my local server browser?
[07:19] <PhinnFort> set Others to Read, and apache should be able to run them
[07:19] <rigved> PhinnFort ok
[07:20] <rigved> PhinnFort thanks again
[07:20] <PhinnFort> np;)
[07:20] <rigved> PhinnFort how old r u brother
[07:20] <PhinnFort> 18;)
[07:20] <rigved> wow
[07:20] <rigved> PhinnFort i feel like i ve wasted most of my life... i m 32
[07:20] <rigved> PhinnFort anyway better late than never
[07:21] <PhinnFort> heh, i'm the one who's wasting my life, in an irc server;)
[07:21] <PhinnFort> *channel
[07:21] <rigved> PhinnFort lol
[07:21] <PhinnFort> :D
[07:21] <rigved> PhinnFort u r helping out man!!
[07:21] <rigved> PhinnFort not wasting
[07:21] <PhinnFort> rigved: someone has to do that too;)
[07:21] <rigved> PhinnFort r u from denmark
[07:21] <PhinnFort> norway;)
[07:21] <rigved> PhinnFort is that in denmark?
[07:21] <PhinnFort> nope, it's a bit north of denmar
[07:21] <rigved> PhinnFort foolish of me isnt it
[07:21] <PhinnFort> k
[07:22] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:22] <rigved> PhinnFort cool... yesterday a 15 year old boy from denmark helped me set this windows ntfs partition to linux!
[07:22] <PhinnFort> crazy;)
[07:22] <rigved> PhinnFort today u helped me put it to use\
[07:23] <rigved> PhinnFort i m indebted to europe
[07:23] <PhinnFort> hehe
[07:23] <PhinnFort> and africa, since ubuntu is sponsored by Canonical, which is based in South-Africa
[07:23] <rigved> PhinnFort lol
[07:23] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:23] <PhinnFort> it's rather international
[07:23] <rigved> PhinnFort tell me one thing... how do open source developers make a living if everything is free
[07:24] <PhinnFort> rigved: different ways
[07:24] <PhinnFort> some are paid by different companies like Novell, RedHat or Canonical
[07:24] <PhinnFort> those in turn sell support and pre-packaged linux
[07:24] <PhinnFort> some do it in their free-time
[07:24] <PhinnFort> *sparetime
[07:24] <rigved> PhinnFort its really amazing
[07:24] <PhinnFort> yeah;)
[07:25] <PhinnFort> and many are students in different universities around the world
[07:25] <rigved> PhinnFort r u affiliaaated to them too or r u a freelancer or a student
[07:25] <PhinnFort> most of KDE (the desktop thingies) best developers are students
[07:25] <rigved> wow
[07:25] <PhinnFort> rigved: i'm just freelancing
[07:25] <rigved> web?
[07:25] <PhinnFort> i'm supposed to be writing a physics report now
[07:25] <rigved> lol
[07:25] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:26] <rigved> PhinnFort u cud write about the physics involved in the necessary gravitation toward linux after using windows
[07:26] <PhinnFort> hehehe;)
[07:26] <PhinnFort> not if i want to get into NTNU (a norwegian university) next year
[07:27] <fiyawerx> anyone have luck with the 8800gts video cards and kubuntu?
[07:27] <rigved> u cud make it a totally meta-physical issue out of it so that they directly employ u there as professor
[07:27] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:27] <PhinnFort> in my dreams, maybe;)
[07:28] <rigved> PhinnFort u already know so much.... i m banking on 10% of knowledge as compared to u... what do u want to do in ur life
[07:28] <rigved> what do u want to be
[07:28] <PhinnFort> i want to deal with computers for a living
[07:28] <rigved> arent u doing that already
[07:28] <PhinnFort> i'm not earning anything out of it;)
[07:29] <rigved> u can easily
[07:29] <PhinnFort> maybe work for Qt (which makes some underlying for KDE), Opera (with the web-browser) or FunCom (makes games)
[07:29] <rigved> unless ur not really into it at the moment
[07:29] <PhinnFort> well, school takes a lot of time
[07:29] <rigved> true
[07:29] <rigved> anyway
[07:29] <PhinnFort> i need to sleep to
[07:29] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:29] <fiyawerx> no you dont :)
[07:29] <rigved> it was nice talking to u PhinnFort
[07:30] <PhinnFort> thanks the same;)
[07:30] <rigved> thanks 2 u brother... u helped!
[07:30] <PhinnFort> fiyawerx: well, we're supposed to play d'n'd tonight, so i guess not
[07:30] <PhinnFort> rigved: no problem, you're welcome;)
[07:30] <fiyawerx> plenty of time to sleep when your dead
[07:30] <rigved> PhinnFort bye... take care and good luck with ur physics report!
[07:30] <PhinnFort> thank you, and good luck with your linux adventures;)
[07:31] <rigved> ha ha ha thank you
[07:31] <Skuller> fiyawerx: our luck on the cash side isnt there for an 8800gtx...so cant reali help with the OS ;)
[07:32] <fiyawerx> Skuller, ditto, thats why i went with the gts :) 320mb, lot cheaper, still nice performance
[07:32] <ScarFreewill> i know about !a$k but can i ask a java question?
[07:32] <fiyawerx> i've already ordered a new system, kubuntu compat. wasn't my first concern, so just wondering how it'll end up
[07:32] <Skuller> fiyawerx: cool...btw is it a gts or a gs?
[07:33] <fiyawerx> gts
[07:33] <Skuller> oh ok...nice
[07:33] <fiyawerx> spent 1k on the system, already have k/m/lcd tho
[07:33] <ScarFreewill> i'm tring to make a simple input dailog with JOptionPane... but want a default value for my input field... this is how i'm trying to do it: javax.swing.JOptionPane.INPUT_VALUE_PROPERTY = "string"
[07:33] <Skuller> hehe nice
[07:34] <ScarFreewill> fiyawerx: you got a 8800?
[07:34] <fiyawerx> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130082
[07:34] <fiyawerx> is the card i ordered
[07:34] <Morbo> Overkill, much?
[07:34] <ScarFreewill> i've got a 7900gt i've had it for a year and i'm not going to upgrade soon...
[07:35] <Morbo> That costs more than my MythTV box
[07:35] <ScarFreewill> (soon as in 2 years)
[07:35] <fiyawerx> overkill? the gtx would have been overkill
[07:35] <Morbo> Granted, most of it is salvage and the like
[07:35] <ScarFreewill> yeah ;)
[07:35] <fiyawerx> nod, but you generally wont be playing supreme commander on a mythtv box :)
[07:35] <ScarFreewill> evga is good
[07:36] <fiyawerx> had some $$ left from taxes/work bonus, and my current machine is a 2 year old hp media center
[07:37] <fiyawerx> even trying to upgrade the power supply in the hp is damn near impossible, so even most lesser cards i wouldn't have been able to get working nice
[07:37] <ScarFreewill> its x2 as much as I payed for my 79gt more than a year ago
[07:38] <fiyawerx> yeah i was looking at the 7950gt for a bit too
[07:38] <fiyawerx> but this thing also outperforms that by almost x2
[07:38] <ScarFreewill> yeah and its got old technoligy
[07:45] <malone61a> slt
[07:48] <killermach__> for years when I type "vi thisfile.txt" I get an editor that when I press the " i " key it displays "INSERT" in the bottom right corner, with ubuntu I find that must type vim and not vi
[07:48] <killermach__> I goto /usr/bin/ and rm vi, ln -s vim vi ... but this still does not work
[07:48] <killermach__> I check .bashrc to find out where my "vi" is being hijacked and cannot locate it
[07:49] <killermach__> if I cp vim.tiny to vi .. this does not work either.. if I cp vim.tiny asdf then "asdf thisfile.txt" this works
[07:49] <killermach__> something is hijacking the two letter launch for "vi"
[07:50] <killermach__> what is the "broken version" of vi and how do I get rid of it
[07:50] <killermach__> ?
[07:51] <killermach__> no one here edits code?
[07:51] <MinceR> killermach__: check what file "which vi" points you to
[07:52] <killermach__> MinceR: that would be /usr/bin/vi, if I rm /usr/bin/vi then type vi  I get command not found
[07:52] <killermach__> then I ln -s /usr/bin/vim /usr/bin/vi
[07:52] <MinceR> type rehash in your shell and try again
[07:52] <killermach__> and this does not work
[07:52] <killermach__> a simple "vi" always launches some broken editor
[07:53] <MinceR> or maybe your shell has an alias
[07:53] <MinceR> you can list them with alias
[07:53] <killermach__> rehash not found
[07:53] <easytiger> whats the kde version of the program in gnome that does auto updates?
[07:53] <killermach__> alias does not expose anything for vi
[07:54] <MinceR> then you probably don't need to rehash. i'm a zsh user :)
[07:54] <MinceR> i don't have more ideas
[07:54] <wimpies> any of you ever experienced konqueror hanging on a local directory read ?
[07:54] <killermach__> can I simply uninstall the broken vi and only have the one that's useable installed?
[07:55] <easytiger> killermach__: whats wrong witht he vi?
[07:57] <dmbkiwi> Hello
[07:57] <dmbkiwi> Does kaudiocreator use cdparanoia as a ripping tool, and if so, is there a way to turn off paranoia, so it rips faster?
[07:58] <killermach__> easytiger: I press " i " I do not get "INSERT" mode
[07:59] <easytiger> killermach__: remove it completely and try again
[07:59] <killermach__> easytiger: my problem is not with vi.. I understand there are two versions installed and I apparently prefer vim
[08:00] <fiyawerx> just out of curiosity, is typing vim thisfile.txt really that much harder that its a problem?
[08:00] <acemo> how do i install gecko-sdk?
[08:00] <killermach__> I use RHEL, mandrake, mandriva, suse and knoppix.. I only have this issue on ubuntu installs
[08:01] <fiyawerx> killermach__: when i type i, it doesn't *say* insert, but it goes into insert just the same, did you try typing after your i?
[08:03] <killermach__> fiyawerx: if we were to scientifically evaluate it by not only the number of keystrokes involved but also by the distance the finger travel must also add, plus calories consumed, then yes accounting for the cost is far too involved, it would be better to delete vi  and link vim to vi
[08:03] <kinux> is someone from romania?
[08:04] <fiyawerx> killermach__: what about the second part? i just tested with 'vi' and then 'i' and it does go into insert mode, even tho it doesn't *say* it
[08:04] <fiyawerx> im on a default 6.10 install
[08:04] <killermach__> my problem is that ubuntu keeps hijacking "vi" to run "vi" even after I rm -rf /usr/bin/vi, and ln -s /usr/bin/vim /usr/bin/vi, this still does not get me to vim while only typing vi
[08:04] <fiyawerx> you're using sudo for the ln, right?
[08:05] <fiyawerx> oh.. wait a minute
[08:05] <fiyawerx> when i type 'vi'
[08:05] <fiyawerx> it starts 'vim'
[08:05] <fiyawerx> what version of kubuntu you on?
[08:05] <killermach__> fiyawerx: oh.. but if it doesn't say "INSERT" then the keycommands are not the same, I butcher the file in this old vi editor
[08:06] <killermach__> 6.1
[08:07] <fiyawerx> im on a fresh install of 6.1 myself, when i type 'vi', i get this: http://rafb.net/p/FaqQd486.html
[08:07] <killermach__> I jsut don't understand.. that if I rm /usr/bin/vi, then ln -s /usr/bin/vim.tiny /usr/bin/vi I still do not get vim.tiny to run when I type vi.. what' sup with that?
[08:08] <fiyawerx> and insert mode is working just like i would expect insert mode to
[08:08] <fiyawerx> even tho it doesn't *say* insert
[08:08] <fiyawerx> not sure what commands your trying that normally work in insert mode that don't work in 'vi'
[08:09] <waylandbill> fiyawerx: I think it doesn't by default, but .vimrc can change that easily.
[08:09] <killermach__> if you press CTRL+G do you see what line/column you are in?
[08:10] <fiyawerx> when not in insert mode, yes
[08:12] <fiyawerx> i see what your saying, vim has the status line
[08:12] <killermach__> waylandbill: ok.. I found /etc/vim/vimrc  not sure what to fix tho
[08:12] <fiyawerx> vi is vim in vi compatibilty mode, i think the very first screen tells you how to fix it
[08:12] <fiyawerx> ~                type  :set nocp<Enter>        for Vim defaults
[08:12] <fiyawerx> try that in 'vi' and see if that gets you what you want
[08:12] <killermach__> fiyawerx: then you are in the vi I wish to be, if I type vi thisfile.txt, CTRL+G I get nada
[08:12] <waylandbill> set nocompatibility I thinkg
[08:12] <fiyawerx> yeah
[08:12] <Ryiel> Guys, I've got a linux-proof laptop. I installed ubuntu on it and no sound. I found out that there is an IRQ crash that causes the no sound thing. (It says no device) Though this onboard intel8x0 ac97 soundcard works well under windows. There is no option to change irq in bios. Any clue?
[08:14] <BluesKaj> Ryiel, that soundcard should work fine , prolly just needs a linux driver for it
[08:15] <kristjan_> Ryiel: boot with option   irqpoll
[08:16] <Ryiel> BluesKaj: there is irq crash. I even compiled the alsa drivers.
[08:16] <Ryiel> kristjan_: How to do that? :) (Im a bit newbie)
[08:16] <killermach__> all that started with vi because dpkg-reconfigure xorg just drops to a commandline .. does nothing
[08:16] <edward_> hi everyon... in feisty only the old edgy 2.6.17-10 kernel works for me... the new kernels say something like "VFS error cannot load OS on block 0,0"
[08:16] <kristjan_> Ryiel: no need to compile anything. your soundcard should work out of box with linux
[08:17] <killermach__> xorg was loading in 640x480, and I was needing to edit xorg.conf
[08:17] <Ryiel> kristjan_: how to boot with that irqpoll?
[08:17] <kristjan_> Ryiel: how to add boot option? reboot pc and then grub loads hit Esc
[08:17] <killermach__> anyone know what I'm missing from dpkg-reconfigure xorg to make it work?
[08:17] <Ryiel> oh, ok, i try that
[08:17] <kristjan_> Ryiel: actually wait
[08:18] <Ryiel> yep?
[08:18] <BluesKaj> do you have more than one sound card on the computer , Ryiel?
[08:18] <kristjan_> Ryiel: let's do it in more convinient way
[08:18] <Ryiel> nope, thats a laptop
[08:18] <fiyawerx> isn't it dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:18] <Ryiel> Asus M3N laptop
[08:18] <kristjan_> Ryiel: paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst       use http://pastebin.ca/
[08:19] <BluesKaj> Ryiel, check your peripherals in the BIOS , make sure the sound isn't disabled
[08:19] <Ryiel> i cannot even disable sounds
[08:19] <killermach__> fiyawerx: probably.. but from the commandline dpkg-reconfigure gave no complaints
[08:19] <Ryiel> this bios is soo stupid
[08:19] <Ryiel> but i've got sound under winxp
[08:19] <Ryiel> kristjan_: starting up...
[08:20] <jhutchins> Ryiel: Asus usually posts bios updates for their current hardware.  It's usually a good idea to update to whatever they have on their web site.
[08:20] <Emperor_Norton> I'm trying to compile the desklist plugin for kopete
[08:20] <BluesKaj> look at peripherals in BIOS
[08:20] <Emperor_Norton> but I have no idea where kde is located
[08:20] <Emperor_Norton> :s
[08:20] <N6REJ> can anyone think of any solid reason why my server would not show up in a windows envirorment even though I have samba and cups installed?
[08:21] <Emperor_Norton> is it on the right domain?
[08:21] <N6REJ> no I don't think so.
[08:22] <BluesKaj> check your shares on the windows pc
[08:22] <N6REJ> Emperor_Norton: its chosing my isp's domain instead of my lan
[08:22] <Emperor_Norton> :/
[08:22] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: other windows box's can see and share
[08:22] <Ryiel> kristjan_: http://www.pastebin.ca/406869
[08:22] <Ryiel> jhutchins: thanks, im looking for bios update right now
[08:23] <N6REJ> BluesKaj: this is really weird because I've installed ubuntu numerous times without problems albeit normally as a desktop and this time I've installed using the server distro and manually adding the kde packages. and its giving me grief.
[08:24] <N6REJ> Emperor_Norton: how do I set a domian for just local?  These are all nat'd machines.
[08:24] <Emperor_Norton> I have no idea, I just remember having trouble with this when I set up samba/cups
[08:24] <N6REJ> Emperor_Norton: lol, thats a start
[08:25] <Emperor_Norton> stupid question, what is the path to kde?
[08:25] <N6REJ> or sudo apt-cache show kde
[08:25] <Emperor_Norton> ohh
[08:25] <Emperor_Norton> thanks
[08:26] <N6REJ> yw
[08:26] <N6REJ> Emperor_Norton: you might need sudo apt-cache show kde-base
[08:26] <Dekkard> lots of feistey users?
[08:26] <N6REJ> Emperor_Norton: or worst case sudo locate kde   but if you do that one hang onto your seat
[08:26] <kristjan_> Ryiel: http://pastebin.ca/406872 what for you need acpi=off ?
[08:27] <kristjan_> Ryiel: and pci=biosirq pci=usepirqmask?
[08:28] <Emperor_Norton> whereis worked
[08:28] <Emperor_Norton> cheers
[08:28] <Ryiel> kristjan_:  acpi because i couldnt install ubuntu on it without turning it off
[08:28] <Ryiel> pci=biosirq, i got some hints and tried themn
[08:28] <Ryiel> but no luck
[08:30] <kristjan_> Ryiel: you know what http://pastebin.ca/406885 < try this instead 1st boot irqpoll line and then try acpi boot line
[08:30] <killermach__> sheesh.. I "alias vi='/usr/bin/vim'  and vi still does not get me vim
[08:31] <chalcedonynhubby> i really hope somebody is here who can help
[08:31] <jhutchins> So do I.
[08:31] <waylandbill> killermach_: did you install a package to put in vi, cause vim is installed in kubuntu by default.
[08:31] <chalcedonynhubby> :)
[08:31] <Ryiel> kristjan_: i just copy the recent one over with it?
[08:32] <Emperor_Norton> ffs
[08:32] <Emperor_Norton> the plugin compiled
[08:32] <Emperor_Norton> and installed
[08:32] <xerosis> where is the keyboard shortcuts file stored? no settings are being applied so i think it's wrong chowned
[08:32] <Emperor_Norton> but isn't showing up
[08:32] <kristjan_> Ryiel: yeah. don't forget to add one empty line in the end (not sure if needed)
[08:32] <killermach__> waylandbill: I'm in synaptic looking..
[08:32] <chalcedonynhubby> what i'm trying to do is help my husband (who has disabilites) download a program to do taxes called gnucash .. i'm not sure how?
[08:32] <fiyawerx> killermach__: both vi and vim seem to start 'vim', its just that vi starts it in compatibility mode
[08:32] <wolferine> what is the best way to install apache, php and mysql on kubuntu?
[08:32] <fiyawerx> its the same program in different modes, gotta find the config thats telling it to do so
[08:33] <kristjan_> Ryiel: all I did to your meny.lst was adding those two other boot options, wverything else is same
[08:33] <wolferine> run a VM machine, and install the server?
[08:33] <Dekkard> chalcedonynhubby:  do you know how to use the terminal?
[08:33] <xerosis> wolferine: all are in the repos
[08:33] <jhutchins> chalcedonynhubby: apt-get install gnucash
[08:33] <killermach__> there is no "vi" package, it goes from vgrabbj to vic, to videogen
[08:33] <chalcedonynhubby> Dekkard, on my box yes. i run ubuntu on gnome.
[08:33] <Ryiel> kristjan_: ok, im acutally helping my friend online who doesnt know english at all ;)
[08:33] <wolferine> yes, but its the after install (setup) I am more worried about
[08:33] <jhutchins> chalcedonynhubby: sorry, sudo apt-get install gnucash
[08:33] <chalcedonynhubby> jhutchins, he has kubuntu
[08:33] <xerosis> wolferine: all work out of the box for me
[08:34] <chalcedonynhubby> i'm on his KDE box.. everything is different
[08:34] <jhutchins> chalcedonynhubby: Works either way, I just forgot the sudo.
[08:34] <killermach__> fiyawerx: I copy /etc/vim/vimrc.tiny to vimrc.local and then I ONLY get the old one
[08:34] <Dekkard> chalcedonynhubby:  you need to open konsole and type in sudo apt-get install gnucash
[08:34] <jhutchins> !software | chalcedonynhubby
[08:34] <ubotu> chalcedonynhubby: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[08:34] <wolferine> so did you install each seperately, or one at a time, ( I know the order they must be installed)
[08:34] <xerosis> wolferine: shouldn't matter really
[08:35] <Dekkard> is koffice up to bleeding edge on feisty?
[08:35] <wolferine> well, you need to setup the php to run on mysql
[08:35] <jhutchins> Dekkard: #ubuntu+1
[08:35] <Dekkard> thanks jhutchins
[08:35] <xerosis> wolferine: all the config is done after
[08:35] <chalcedonynhubby> vir% sudo apt-get install gnucash
[08:35] <chalcedonynhubby> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:35] <chalcedonynhubby> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:35] <chalcedonynhubby> vir%
[08:36] <chijin> shut down adept
[08:36] <chijin> or synaptic
[08:36] <Dekkard> chalcedonynhubby:  do you have adept or synaptic open?
[08:36] <chijin> or any other packet manager
[08:36] <killermach__> my major problem with the old version is I press some keystroke and it uppercases existing letters
[08:36] <chalcedonynhubby> aptitude?
[08:36] <chalcedonynhubby> yes
[08:36] <jhutchins> chalcedonynhubby: close any GUI package manager.
[08:36] <chalcedonynhubby> and i'll try
[08:36] <wolferine> but you are prompted to setup php with myswl during the install (or maybe its just because I select phpbb)?
[08:37] <xerosis> wolferine: if you're just installed the packages you shouldn't have to
[08:37] <xerosis> *installing
[08:37] <wolferine> but if phpbb is included in those packages, I think  it prompts you to setup myswl
[08:37] <wolferine> mysql*
[08:37] <wolferine> keep missing that q
[08:37] <Ryiel> kristjan_: It dies on startup...
[08:37] <Ryiel> with both options
[08:37] <chalcedonynhubby> YIPPIE it's working!!
[08:38] <kristjan_> Ryiel: too bad
[08:38] <Ryiel> I know...
[08:38] <xerosis> wolferine: what is the problem, do you not know how to or...?
[08:38] <Ryiel> the saddest thing it works under winxp :(
[08:38] <kristjan_> Ryiel: out of my head try more options: pci=noacpi
[08:38] <kristjan_> Ryiel: noapic
[08:39] <Ryiel> we tried that alreay :)
[08:39] <Ryiel> already
[08:39] <wolferine> well, up until a day or two, I didnt realize the root password was blank
[08:39] <Ryiel> I told him to do bios update first
[08:39] <xerosis> wolferine: not trying to insult, you just seemed to know what you needed to do after you'd installed them?
[08:39] <wolferine> and I have tried to setup apache in the past, and I have found it hard at times, for example, setting up a www/ in my /home
[08:40] <xerosis> wolferine: have you read ubuntuguide.org?
[08:40] <wolferine> lol
[08:40] <kristjan_> Ryiel: so the only thing that helps is acpi=off?
[08:40] <wolferine> everyday man
[08:40] <wolferine> everyday
[08:40] <kristjan_> Ryiel: and then soundcard is not getting irq?
[08:40] <Ryiel> thats the only way it can run linux
[08:40] <Ryiel> nope, and it says no device
[08:40] <N6REJ> if you remove the search statement from  /etc/resolv.conf will it stay out?
[08:41] <xerosis> wolferine: setting up the users in apache is pretty hard in debian/ubuntu because of a quirk, i've struggled with it before
[08:41] <kristjan_> !acpi
[08:41] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[08:41] <kristjan_> lol
[08:41] <Ryiel> hehe
[08:41] <wolferine> well, I just dont know enough about file systems, which dir is what, how a symbolic links works, etc...
[08:41] <wolferine> else I think I could probably do it
[08:41] <kristjan_> Ryiel: not what we need ;)
[08:41] <wolferine> well, ill just go get the packages now
[08:41] <wolferine> bbiab
[08:42] <Ryiel> he doesnt know how to update bios now, he should install XP first to update bios :D
[08:42] <kristjan_> Ryiel: so you need to assign irq to your soundcard that does not get it while booting with acpi=off
[08:42] <Emperor_Norton> whats the program that is like launchy, but for kde called again?
[08:42] <chalcedonynhubby> vir% run gnucash
[08:42] <chalcedonynhubby> zsh: command not found: run
[08:42] <chalcedonynhubby> vir%
[08:42] <Emperor_Norton> gnucash on its own?
[08:42] <SeveredCross> Uhh...
[08:42] <Dekkard> just gnucash
[08:42] <SeveredCross> Just gnucash should work.
[08:42] <killermach__> ok..I understand it's launching the same app in diff modes. apparently based upon the command used to run it, so an "alias" should have the shell launch vim while only typing vi, but this does not work either, it's like the shell or distro has greater problems than I've ever run into
[08:42] <chalcedonynhubby> ok ty
[08:43] <Dekkard> katapult?
[08:43] <Emperor_Norton> <3
[08:43] <xerosis> killermach__: what's the problem?
[08:44] <Ryiel> kristjan_: i dont know how to assign that :(
[08:44] <TSWoodV> Greetings!  I'm a long-time *nix geek but a real short-timer on KDE.  Under Kubuntu, is there an icon in the K menu for the control center?  If there is, I didn't find it.
[08:44] <killermach__> xerosis: simplest put.. I'd like to type "vi" to get an editor which will display "INSERT" in the bottom right hand corner when I pre the " i " key
[08:45] <kristjan_> Ryiel: just to make sure I would try all of these boot options separately: noacpi apic pci=noacpi nolapic
[08:45] <xerosis> killermach__: i get INSERT in the bottom left?
[08:45] <killermach__> xerosis: I've never had to configure any "mode" for vi on any linux distro
[08:45] <xerosis> TSWoodV: System Settings?
[08:45] <kristjan_> Ryiel: I'm not kernel hacker myself, just that I have had acpi problems in the past
[08:45] <Ryiel> kristjan_: ok, im on it
[08:45] <killermach__> xerosis: well I'm trying to get my installation to be like yours :)
[08:46] <TSWoodV> xerosis: I don't think that's the same thing as kcontrol.  Is it some tuned variant?
[08:46] <xerosis> killermach__: what version is it?
[08:46] <fiyawerx> xerosis: when i type vim yes, when i type vi i don't get the *INSERT* either, it goes into insert mode but no status line
[08:46] <N6REJ> is there something that controls wether /etc/resolv.conf gets looked at first or last?
[08:46] <xerosis> TSWoodV: System Settings is  a new version of kcontrol
[08:46] <killermach__> ubuntu 6.10
[08:46] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: /etc/nsswitch.conf may be what you're looking for?
[08:46] <xerosis> TSWoodV: if you do alt+f2 then type kcontrol, it's still there
[08:46] <kristjan_> Ryiel: the correct list would be of most important boot options I think: noapic acpi=off pci=noacpi and nolapic
[08:46] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: thanks
[08:47] <xerosis> killermach__: of vi/m i meant
[08:47] <kristjan_> Ryiel: also I guess noacpi is same as acpi=off
[08:47] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok, thats set properly, I can't figure out why my lan isn't working :(
[08:48] <yeti> which program can i use to add subtitles to a movie?
[08:48] <N6REJ> yeti: there are several sudo apt-cache search subtitle
[08:48] <killermach__> xerosis: version 7.0.35
[08:50] <crackhead_25> question: how does one remove the GPM driver (the mouse driver for the konsole)? just lsmod | grep gpm.. modprobe -r..??
[08:50] <TSWoodV> xerosis:  It seems that much of docs.kde.org refers to kcontrol directly.  And System Settings doesn't exactly duplicate nor is it a superset of kcontrol.
[08:50] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: What's your symptoms?
[08:51] <xerosis> TSWoodV: it's a more "refined" version of kcontrol, but like i said kcontrol is still there
[08:51] <crackhead_25> question: where is the gpm module/driver (the mouse driver for the console)? i think it's messing up when switching between X server sessions.. my mouse cursor keeps disappearing!!
[08:51] <kristjan_> Ryiel: I found another interesting boot option  acpi_use_timer_override
[08:52] <TSWoodV> xerosis: Thanks for the confirmation that I was not losing what little sanity I still retain... ;-)
[08:52] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: well its really strange.  I've setup numerous kubuntu boxes, and countless servers without problems... but this time I'm using the ubuntu server distro and have manually added which packages I want installed, as I don't want the entire kde desktop, just the utils and config portions.... and for whatever reason, samba config is being ignored, cups printers aren't available on the...
[08:52] <N6REJ> ...network, and I can't browese the server.
[08:52] <xerosis> killermach__: open /etc/vim/.vimrc and change 'set compatible' to '"set compatible'
[08:52] <xerosis> killermach__: that is, comment it out
[08:52] <Ryiel> kristjan_: instead of irqpoll or just put it after irqpoll?
[08:52] <xerosis> TSWoodV: no problem ;)
[08:53] <lucas_> Hi
[08:53] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Start with the basics.  What does ifconfig -a tell you?  And how about basic ping tests.  Can you ping anything of relevence?
[08:53] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to remove the gpm module/driver??
[08:53] <N6REJ> one moment phone
[08:53] <kristjan_> Ryiel: create more stuff into menu.lst like I did for you
[08:54] <lucas_> crackhead_25: is it loaded ?
[08:54] <Ryiel> ok
[08:54] <Ryiel> im on it
[08:54] <crackhead_25> im not sure.. it didnt appear in lsmod, i dont think.. what is it's exact name? do you know?
[08:55] <crackhead_25> everytime kde starts a second session, switch to it, then end that secons ession, and go back to the first, the mouse cursor will have disappeared.. someone suggested it was the gpm module conflicting with the X's mouse module..?
[08:55] <xerosis> killermach__: any luck?
[08:55] <blekos> hi, for some reason kontact does not check my email
[08:55] <blekos> the funny thing is that when i start konctact does not ask me for the kwallet password
[08:56] <blekos> any ideas?
[08:56] <timucin_kizilay> hi everybody... can anyone help me with an intel mainbord ?
[08:56] <killermach__> xerosis: there is no /etc/vim/.vimrc  there is a /etc/vim/vimrc but no compatible setting.. the setting is in vimrc.tiny
[08:56] <xerosis> killermach__: try ~/.vimrc?
[08:57] <lucas_> crackhead_25: I don't know but I could help yyour to remove it, if it was  loaded
[08:57] <Alonea> hey
[08:57] <chuen> Hi. I'm trying to install Java using Adept Manager. Is there any way I can 'OK' the license - or access the window that allows me to do so?
[08:57] <xerosis> killermach__: sorry, i meant /etc/vim/vimrc
[08:57] <lucas_> crackhead_25: What did you mean by gpm ?
[08:57] <killermach__> i comment it out in vimrc.tiny and still no  change..
[08:58] <killermach__> I tried adding the three lines from vimrc.tiny to vimrc and only end up with the broken version
[08:58] <killermach__> boy am I getting schoole
[08:58] <killermach__> 'd by vi
[08:58] <xerosis> killermach__: try adding 'set nocompatible' to /etc/vim/vimrc
[08:59] <kristjan_> Ryiel: http://pastebin.ca/406908
[08:59] <Dekkard> i do it at lest once a month..jsut incase
[08:59] <basniowysmok> hallo: during distro-upgrade DD=>EE I've been asked what to do with "qt_plugins_3.3rc" there was couple options i choosed "d" which "showed mi all the info" and i saw in every line "...=
[09:00] <tsdgeos> hi
[09:00] <killermach__> xerosis: set nocompatible .. no change.. vim is still vim and vi is still vi
[09:00] <basniowysmok> =30306^e3^ei686 Linux g++-4.* full-config^e20
[09:00] <basniowysmok> 06-03-29T06:44:22^
[09:00] <Flaste> how can i change my monitor's refresh rate?
[09:00] <Ryiel> kristjan_: thanks man ;) he doesnt know how to update bios now cause he has only linux on his laptop :D
[09:01] <killermach__> I just find it odd that I can cp /usr/bin/vim.tiny to /usr/bin/asdf and this works fine if I want to learn to use asdf as my prefered editor
[09:01] <kristjan_> Ryiel: does he still got windows cd?
[09:01] <miltos> did anyone managed to make Crypto mpeg TV card to work with kubuntu?
[09:01] <killermach__> actually I prefer pico as an editor
[09:01] <basniowysmok> shold I upgrade this library  ( please ignore "...=)
[09:02] <Ryiel> kristjan_: only xp
[09:03] <kristjan_> Ryiel: tell him to reinstall windows first so that it will use 50% of harddrive and on the remaining space install linux
[09:03] <xerosis> killermach__: sorry i can't be of more help, that's worked for other people
[09:03] <Ryiel> i just found a live dos CD and he flashes under dos now :D
[09:04] <kristjan_> Ryiel: those bios update tools are better to run like hardware manufacturer wants you to!
[09:04] <slestak> killermach__: maybe purge vim and reinstall?
[09:04] <killermach__> xerosis: well I do appreciate your time it's gotta be something
[09:05] <Ryiel> kristjan_: yeah, he says it does the job, I hope he wont mess up his bios...
[09:05] <killermach__> slestak: I'm up for that.. all else fails.. I can use "ed "
[09:06] <Ryiel> kristjan_: bios is up to date but still now sound
[09:06] <kristjan_> Ryiel: you should consider creating bug report https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[09:07] <Ryiel> kr
[09:07] <Ryiel> damn
[09:07] <kristjan_> Ryiel: did you try all these new options http://pastebin.ca/406908?
[09:07] <Ryiel> he tries the boot options first
[09:07] <Ryiel> in progress
[09:08] <killermach__> slestak: removing all vim packages now.. boy do I feel better already :)
[09:08] <kristjan_> Ryiel: laptop is asus ...?
[09:09] <killermach__> does anyone know of an editor like pico? I tried nano, but it really screws up on screen scroll and trashes a file
[09:09] <Ryiel> kristjan_: asus M3N
[09:09] <LjL> !alpine-pice feisty | killermach__, but i'm afraid it's not available for edgy
[09:09] <LjL> !alpine-pioe feisty | killermach__, but i'm afraid it's not available for edgy
[09:09] <LjL> gaaah. alpine-pico
[09:10] <hsystem-x> lol
[09:10] <kristjan_> Ryiel: I found duplicate of your bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/78667
[09:10] <Ryiel> so it means nothing good...
[09:11] <crackhead_25> anyone know how to remove the gpm module and keep it from running? or if it could be mucking up the use of mouse cursor in x? every time i lock current and start new kde session, then log out of that second kde session, and go back to the first, my mouse cursor has disappeared. the mouse is moving around, ic an tell, because things are getting highlighted, but you can't see the cursor itself.. it's an invisible mouse!! help!!
[09:11] <killermach__> for a while I used to install sendmail, thne copy out the pico binary, then uninstall sendmail
[09:12] <N6REJ-AFK> TSWoodV: sorry my attorney is on the phone
[09:12] <kristjan_> Ryiel: once you done testing boot options I recommend leaving a comment there...
[09:12] <Nullbyte> Hey guys, do any of you guys know how I get what M$ calls a computer name for my windows network? :x
[09:12] <crackhead_25> nullbyte: use samba?
[09:13] <Nullbyte> Well, I tried that, didnt really work
[09:13] <TSWoodV> N6REJ-AFK: One should take calls from attorneys...  They'll charge you more if you don't take the call! ;-)
[09:13] <Nullbyte> My router doesnt recognize it at least
[09:13] <waylandbill> Nullbyte: the broadcast is udp and not reliable. The ip address always should work.
[09:13] <Nullbyte> Oh, thanks waylandbill
[09:13] <evfreshman2025> can someone help me with my wireless connection? Im new to Kabuntu and im really lost
[09:14] <crackhead_25> evfreshman2025.. it's tricky. you may need to use ndiswrapper.
[09:14] <crackhead_25> (if your card isn't auto-recognized)
[09:14] <evfreshman2025> see thats what i need help with, i dont understand all of these programs
[09:14] <kristjan_> Ryiel: I think I found the needed boot option   "options snd_hda_intel model=3stack"
[09:14] <crackhead_25> go to kubuntu or ubuntu wiki pages, and search 'ndiswrapper', and follow instructions to see if your card is one that needs it.
[09:14] <crackhead_25> !ndiswrapper | evfreshman2025
[09:14] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:15] <Ryiel> kristjan_: ubuntu runs with these options but still no sound: noapic, nolapic
[09:15] <evfreshman2025> and if my card does need it?
[09:15] <crackhead_25> evfreshman2025: the nuse it
[09:15] <crackhead_25> then use it
[09:15] <cam523> este cineva din moldova sau romania?
[09:15] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok, now where were we?
[09:15] <Ryiel> kristjan_: can you pastebin that too? :)
[09:16] <evfreshman2025> okay so my card isnt listed on the site...what do i do?
[09:16] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: You need to test the basic functionality of your network card and verify the basic settings such as IP address, netmask, default gateway, DNS servers, etc.
[09:16] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok, let me try some things.
[09:16] <crackhead_25> you looked that quickly? what kind of card is it?
[09:16] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Run "ifconfig -a" and pastebin it if you have any questions about it.
[09:17] <evfreshman2025> umm h/o let me go look at what the exact card is
[09:17] <N6REJ> k
[09:17] <N6REJ> there's a sit0 entry that I've never seen before
[09:18] <LjL> N6REJ: that's IPv6
[09:18] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: IPv6.  Don't worry about it unless you're on IPv6.
[09:18] <N6REJ> YUCK!
[09:18] <LjL> well, the tunneling for IPv6
[09:18] <LjL> !ipv6
[09:18] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:18] <N6REJ> k, we'll get to that.
[09:18] <evfreshman2025> My wireless adapter is the ZyAIR G-302
[09:18] <kristjan_> Ryiel: http://pastebin.ca/406940 - if it won't boot then press "e" and add noapic or nolapic press enter and then press B
[09:19] <evfreshman2025> The brand is ZyXEL
[09:19] <crackhead_25> how do you remove the gpm module and/or keep it from running? i think it could be screwing my use of mouse cursor in x. every time i lock current session and start new, then log out of new and return to first session, my mouse cursor there becomes invisible--the mouse is moving, things are getting highlighted, but you can't see the cursor itself.. help!!
[09:19] <crackhead_25> evfreshman2025: im not familiar with that. dont know which driver it uses. find out which driver it uses.
[09:19] <crackhead_25> it may not be listed, but it may still use a driver which requires ndiswrapper.
[09:19] <evfreshman2025> how do i do that?
[09:19] <crackhead_25> go to the manufacturer site, look at the specs, or google it generally.
[09:19] <Ryiel> kristjan_: Ok, i told him, thanks for all your efforts
[09:20] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: surfing works, ip's look ok. here's the pastbin  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11558/  I'm trying to setup a "lan" server, its going to be use for accounting. and web developement and testing my joomla configs.
[09:20] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: FYI I do have a spare domain that I could assign if it really is necessary.
[09:21] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: oh yeah, and a file server
[09:21] <evfreshman2025> Hello? i kinda need some help! ='[
[09:21] <killermach__> what package installs /etc/vim/vimrc ??
[09:22] <kristjan_> Ryiel: http://pastebin.ca/406943 I would consider using noapic then instead of acpi=off (since laptop cpu frequency scaling does work only with acpi turned on to my knowledge)
[09:22] <waylandbill> killermach__: hopefully none.
[09:22] <N6REJ> tsw, this looks werid.. hang on a second.
[09:22] <waylandbill> killermach__: you have to make that yourself
[09:22] <killermach__> waylandbill: I never made it, and it was there
[09:22] <waylandbill> killermach__: move it
[09:22] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: why does <IP_ADDRESS> say "driftwood.iowatelecom.net" ?  I don't want it to know anything about my ISP.
[09:23] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Times that I've had the same issues, it's been iptables.
[09:23] <waylandbill> killermach__: rename it and try vim without it
[09:23] <kristjan_> Ryiel: and don't forget to add your thoughts here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/78667
[09:23] <killermach__> I uninstalled all vim packages. now its gone,
[09:23] <killermach__> without it.. vi and vim are the same.. bad
[09:23] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: as far as I know Iptables are not installed
[09:23] <evfreshman2025> does anyone know how to install a wireless adapter using the CD. i think its for windowa
[09:24] <waylandbill> killermach__: now make a new one with a line saying set nocompatible
[09:24] <waylandbill> hopefully I spelled that correctly. ;)
[09:25] <Alonea> Anyone remember off hand where the vector thing in the gimp is at. I used it last week and forgot where it is..
UMMMM Hello?
[09:26] <N6REJ> !wireless | evfreshman2025
[09:26] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:27] <evfreshman2025> that website didnt help me at all
[09:27] <Ryiel> that's way too bad :)
[09:27] <N6REJ> evfreshman2025: wireless is a pita
[09:27] <N6REJ> evfreshman2025: check to see if your nic is supported
[09:27] <evfreshman2025> wtf is a pita?
[09:27] <N6REJ> pain the in arse
[09:28] <N6REJ> s/the/in/in/the/
[09:28] <evfreshman2025> what is a nic?
[09:28] <N6REJ> OH BOY!
[09:28] <waylandbill> oye
[09:28] <crackhead_25> how can i increase video memory setting on my bios (without having to reconfigure all of xserver-xorg)???
[09:28] <evfreshman2025> dude, im new to retarted kabuntu
[09:28] <N6REJ> evfreshman2025: a NIC is a Network Interface Card
[09:28] <killermach__> waylandbill: that works, boy what a waste of time, I checked my RH9 box and there is no vim only vi and it operates as wanted
[09:28] <kristjan_> Ryiel: you could add one more option to the list "acpi=noirq"
[09:28] <Ryiel> pita is a greek foog :)
[09:29] <Ryiel> food
[09:29] <killermach__> waylandbill: I've only been on one other box shell that had awful vi, it was freebsd box
[09:29] <N6REJ> Ryiel: yeppers
[09:29] <Ryiel> kristjan_: we tried that earlier
[09:29] <Ryiel> he is trying the last option now
[09:29] <Alonea> never mind...just refound it. its called GFig
[09:29] <Ryiel> no luck so far
[09:29] <kristjan_> Ryiel: so what boot options work now?
[09:29] <killermach__> waylandbill: thanks, and the rest of you who put up with my ranting about vi.. :)
[09:29] <N6REJ> what the heck? kdm is installed!
[09:29] <waylandbill> killermach__: sorry. I'd of told you earlier, but you needed suffer. ;-)
[09:29] <N6REJ> ACK!
[09:29] <kristjan_> Ryiel: noapic, nolapic and acpi=off?
[09:30] <Ryiel> yep
[09:30] <waylandbill> killermach__: j/k. Wish I could've helped ya sooner.
[09:30] <Ryiel> kristjan_: the two new options work but no sound
[09:30] <kristjan_> Ryiel: does his cpu run at max speed then booting with acpi=off?
[09:30] <killermach__> waylandbill: I was told about it.. but it didn't work, I had to uninstall everything, delete /etc/vim/ and start over.. that is odd.  why does it just not work from the box?
[09:30] <killermach__> s/box/install/
[09:30] <crackhead_25> evfreshman2025: read this site: http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000167
[09:30] <Ryiel> kristjan_: i think he uses the default settings
[09:31] <kristjan_> Ryiel: you said previously something about compiling
[09:31] <Ryiel> yeah, alsa drivers
[09:31] <Ryiel> but that didnt help
[09:31] <waylandbill> killermach__: no idea. maybe a code oversight. It's always worked from clean install. I've installed zillions of times.
[09:31] <kristjan_> Ryiel: maybe this screwed up sound? or did you reinstall?
[09:31] <Ryiel> kristjan_: no sound since ubuntu is installed :D
[09:32] <kristjan_> Ryiel: we are talking about clean install. where you haven't compiled alsa?
[09:32] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: is there a GOOD document on setting up a lan?   You're going to know both. That may mean you have to read. Sorry..
[09:33] <killermach__> waylandbill: then must be something I hosed later.. cause if I had this battle on my first ubuntu install, there probably would not have been a second :)
[09:33] <slestak> is feisty upgrade pretty safe these days?  think im gonna get a good backup and try it tonight.
[09:33] <killermach__> but I've been using ubuntu for months on 4 boxes
[09:33] <kristjan_> Ryiel: I recommend using noapic or nolapic option instead of completely disabling acpi (noacpi)
[09:33] <xerosis> slestak: off the record, yes :)
[09:33] <Ryiel> yeah, but still no sound :)
[09:34] <hsystem-x> ehmm, is beryl going to be integrated on feisty?
[09:34] <xerosis> hsystem-x: not beryl, but compiz is
[09:34] <waylandbill> killermach__: when you are new, you have no fear. Like infants. First whack on the coffee table changes everything.
[09:35] <waylandbill> that's gotta be soooo politically incorrect. :-D
[09:35] <kristjan_> Ryiel: maybe you can find problem similar to yours here http://tinyurl.com/2j8evq
[09:36] <djpons_> [21:33]  <djpons_> hello!
[09:36] <djpons_> [21:34]  <djpons_> i have a one question of command date
[09:36] <djpons_> [21:34]  <djpons_> i need a number of days with command date
[09:36] <djpons_> [21:34]  <djpons_> type 14599
[09:36] <crackhead_25> anyone??
[09:36] <phpcoin> ok - who's responsible for this kubuntu thingy ?
[09:36] <djpons_> in shell
[09:36] <waylandbill> djpons_: '2 days ago'
[09:37] <djpons_> no total number of days
[09:37] <djpons_> before1 january of 1970
[09:37] <Ryiel> kristjan_: thanks for your effort but this laptop seems to be linux-proof.. :(
[09:38] <N6REJ> Ryiel: thats debatable.
[09:38] <N6REJ> Ryiel: have you tried a live cd?
[09:38] <waylandbill> djpons_: the integer for date is easily manipulated in a C program. There's functions galore for it.
[09:39] <Ryiel> Yeah, no luck, not even with suse
[09:39] <djpons_>  i need integer in script
[09:39] <N6REJ> Ryiel: ok, what happens what you try?
[09:39] <djpons_> similar   days = date +%?
[09:40] <kristjan_> N6REJ: they also have problems booting asus m3n laptop
[09:40] <killermach__> my RH9 box has no vimrc or .vimrc, my RHEL4 box has /etc/vimrc with nocompatible in it
[09:40] <kristjan_> N6REJ: from testing lots of different options we succeeded in "noacpi, noapic and nolapic"
[09:40] <Ryiel> We tried everything we were told.
[09:40] <N6REJ> kristjan_: I wonder if you could get a minimal install sto start by using the server distro?
[09:41] <N6REJ> kristjan_: what kind of cpu?
[09:41] <waylandbill> djpons_: there are specifications for scripting date. Google for them. You'd be suprised how many ways they coded. you can always look at date's source if in doubt.
[09:41] <Ryiel> N6REJ: we can run ubuntu but no sound
[09:41] <Ryiel> thats the problem
[09:41] <kristjan_> N6REJ: ask Ryiel;) (I'm not the owner of that laptop)
[09:41] <Ryiel> we can run ubuntu with noacpi noapic nolapic and apci/off
[09:41] <djpons_> in man i see some option but not for my.
[09:42] <N6REJ> Ryiel: OH!, thats a different problem.  you need to look closely at the program trying to call the sound and which sound driver is being used.  The kernel probably has the wrong sound card settings.
[09:42] <N6REJ> you may need to install the kernel source and recompile the kernl
[09:42] <waylandbill> djpons_: I didn't know all the different variations until a month. and it's not in the man. the man just says "date specifications"
[09:42] <Ryiel> N6REJ: it has irq rach
[09:42] <Ryiel> crash
[09:42] <Ryiel> i compiled the right alsa drivers as well
[09:43] <Ryiel> but still no luck
[09:43] <kristjan_> N6REJ: here is the same bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/78667
[09:43] <waylandbill> djpons_: research date specifications on the net, you'll find it. you may have to use some math operations for the result you want.
[09:43] <djpons_> ok thanks
[09:43] <N6REJ> Ryiel: ok, thats a hardware conflich... driver problem.  Its trying to tell you that the irq's are conflicting and they are being shared properly.  SOMETHING has a hard set IRQ and refuses to release it.  Suspect the nic and soundcard
[09:44] <kristjan_> N6REJ: what is weird though is that boot option irqpoll should help in such situations, but did nothing for them
[09:44] <Ryiel> I'm not a linux geek
[09:44] <Ryiel> :)
[09:44] <Ryiel> and bios has no options to change irq
[09:44] <K`zan> Anyone here using a Garmin GPS under Ubuntu?
[09:45] <waylandbill> Ryiel: as yoda said to skywalker... you will be.. you will be...
[09:45] <N6REJ> kristjan_: some hardware is physically hardwired to be what it is.   Ryiel yes bios does.  Its normally in advanced settings.
[09:45] <kristjan_> N6REJ: the list of options they tried so far http://pastebin.ca/406943
[09:45] <N6REJ> K`zan: I haven't tried yet.
[09:45] <K`zan> N6REJ: APRS eventually :)
[09:45] <N6REJ> K`zan: sweet.
[09:45] <K`zan> Road Nav is pretty nice, I had to use the gpsd to get it working though.
[09:45] <N6REJ> I wonder if my gps-10 will work?
[09:46] <K`zan> serial right?  Normal serial?
[09:46] <N6REJ> K`zan: you were able to get n-route to work?
[09:46] <mervteck_> hey guys
[09:46] <kristjan_> N6REJ: some bios setups allow you to change only basic stuff (I for example have simple bios setup)
[09:46] <acemo> anyone here knows how to get opera on linux to be able to play wmv/3pg/rm movies?
[09:46] <K`zan> n-route?
[09:46] <N6REJ> kristjan_: sigh
[09:46] <Ryiel> N6REJ: i asked my friend to take photos of his bios menu :) (the laptop isnt mine and i dont have it here)
[09:46] <N6REJ> K`zan: n-route is the windows routing software for the garmin, is there a nix version?
[09:47] <kristjan_> Ryiel: from locale=hu_HU he probably lives in hungary? :)
[09:47] <N6REJ> Ryiel: I don't know guys, I haven't tried putting ubuntu on my laptop yet, but I'm thinking about it.
[09:47] <slestak> Ryiel: what brand and model is this?  I had an Averatec with an Athlon-64 3000 that was so unstable  and had such a crummy bios.  I treated it like the closing credits in Office Space
[09:48] <Ryiel> kristjan_: yep :D
[09:48] <N6REJ> K`zan: how are you getting "directions" to work?  My gps is a hockey puck ... grs-10 if I remember right.
[09:48] <Ryiel> slestak: asus M3N
[09:48] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Sorry - gone for a while.  What does "iptables -L" say?
[09:48] <K`zan> N6REJ: Not that I know of, mine came with Trip and Waypoint Manager which is pretty useless for anything other than major road travel without spending $100 on maps, BUT... :-)
[09:48] <Ryiel> kristjan_: why?
[09:48] <K`zan> N6REJ: Picked up a GPSMAP 76CS off an adv on QRZ.
[09:49] <N6REJ> K`zan: look at n-route
[09:49] <slestak> i think i remember reading the averatec was a rebranded asus.  does it have award bios?  getting kernel panic about losing sync?
[09:49] <N6REJ> K`zan: sweet!
[09:49] <hsystem-x> which you prefer guys - kde or gnome?
[09:49] <N6REJ> kde!
[09:49] <kristjan_> kde
[09:49] <slestak> kde
[09:49] <Ryiel> kde
[09:49] <Tm_T> KDE!
[09:49] <hsystem-x> jajaja (Y)
[09:49] <kristjan_> Ryiel: what why?
[09:49] <N6REJ> though I prefer symantic over adept
[09:49] <slestak> ready to get booted --- vista to gnome, j/k
[09:49] <Ryiel> kristjan_: Why did you ask whether im from hungary? :)
[09:49] <mervteck_> KDE PWNS THE WORLD
[09:50] <kristjan_> Ryiel: not you but your friend.
[09:50] <Ryiel> kristjan_: We both live in Hungary.
[09:50] <K`zan> N6REJ: Check out: http://www.marengo-ltd.com/map/  I think I just need to figure out how to talk to the USB on the 76cx under linux gpsbabel will probably convert the maringo output (I think, still researching).
[09:50] <hsystem-x> i belive that gnome consume more resoruces than kde, am i right?
[09:50] <kristjan_> Ryiel: he doesn't speak english so I was thinking were could he live
[09:50] <Ryiel> :)
[09:50] <hsystem-x> resources*
[09:51] <Ryiel> He speaks german :D
[09:51] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: would it be better if I set the router to not server dhcp and let the nix box handle it?
[09:51] <kristjan_> Ryiel: what is the output of lspci use http://pastebin.ca/
[09:51] <N6REJ> K`zan: let me know how it goes, the ONLY thing keeping my laptop on windows is the gps
[09:51] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Please reiterate your current problem.  I believe you were having problems with samba and something else...
[09:52] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Another subject:  Once you get gpsdrive setup on your Linux box and download a few free maps, you won't go back to Windows.  The only thing missing is a good routing program.
[09:52] <slestak> hsystem-x: its kindof a moot point with systems today.  if i had a p3-1g id worry about resources.  but not with a modern machine
[09:52] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: well, lets back up a bunch.  All I need is a lan server.  It doesn't need any outside access really.  I do have a spare domain that if necessary I could "burn" to act as the domain for the lan.
[09:52] <K`zan> N6REJ: wilco Sir!  Understand that, since I got really disgusted with wincrap and dropped flightsim (except for very occasional lapses :) I have almost no need for it anymore :).  Almost... Sigh.
[09:53] <mervteck_> anyone here a good and or experienced Coder up for a project? im me =D
[09:53] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I wonder if wine will let you use n-route?
[09:53] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: You can use any domain you wish if it's truly isolated from the Internet.
[09:53] <K`zan> N6REJ: try RoadNav and see what you think of that, it runs fairly well on the old Gateway Solo PII/266/384M under KUbuntu, you might not need the gpsd to talk to it...
[09:54] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I'm wide open to suggestions at this point
[09:54] <N6REJ> K`zan: is it in the repos?
[09:54] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Try this.  Use "example.com" as your domain.  It's a throw-away, kind of like the private network addresses.
[09:54] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: sweet!
[09:54] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Next, make sure that "iptables -L" doesn't show anything.
[09:55] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Now, you've got a router spitting out DHCP addresses, right?  Does that work for you?
[09:55] <N6REJ> yes!
[09:55] <acemo> anyone here knows how to get opera on linux to be able to play wmv/3pg/rm movies?
[09:55] <N6REJ> works excellent, cisco wrt54g
[09:55] <K`zan> N6REJ: Maybe the older version, but it comes as a .deb, easy to install: http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/index.php  - Get the  0.18alpha1...
[09:55] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: So you have connectivity via ping between all of your pieces, right?
[09:56] <N6REJ> yes
[09:56] <Ryiel> kristjan_: http://www.pastebin.ca/406988
[09:56] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Sidebar:  I'd put dd-wrt or tomato on that WRT54G if I were you.
[09:56] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: there are 3 listings from iptables.
[09:56] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: chain input chain forward and chain output all with no numbers
[09:57] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: huh?
[09:57] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: All policy ACCEPT, right?
[09:57] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: no, let me paste it
[09:57] <bobbyd> hi
[09:57] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: the iptables in the router is not set cause I don't know how
[09:57] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: http://www.dd-wrt.com about the WRT54G.
[09:58] <K`zan> TSWoodV: Good unit and link :)
[09:58] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: If you don't have a default policy of accept at least on the INPUT chain, you've probably found the problem.
[09:58] <Ryiel> N6REJ: http://www.sendspace.com/file/kbx2sg <-- I asked him to take photos of his bios. It's disappointing...
[09:58] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11560/
[09:58] <K`zan> Since I don't seem to be able to get WPA-PSK to work, I wonder if WEP and unit ID on the WAP would be as good...
[09:58] <TSWoodV> K'zan:  I love the older WRT54GS (pre version 4) units.  I've got a few around.  DD-WRT on those rocks.
[09:59] <TSWoodV> K'zan:  WPA-PSK with TKIP, right?
[09:59] <K`zan> TSWoodV: Mine is a v1 GS, nice :-)
[09:59] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: mines version 4 firware 1.01 I think
[09:59] <kristjan_> Ryiel: that soundcard should work out of box; I'm very sure about that
[09:59] <Ryiel> out of box?
[09:59] <K`zan> TSWoodV: Err, not sure now, been a while since I messed with it, incredibly convoluted - WEP just seems to work though.
[10:00] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: See the "policy ACCEPT" stuff?  That means that the policy of each of those chains is to accept a packet unless there's a rule that says otherwise.
[10:00] <kristjan_> Ryiel: in other words then you are done installing ubuntu the soundcard should work
[10:00] <K`zan> TSWoodV: Sadly, I use the laptop under wincrap when I have to go wireless with it :-(
[10:00] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: In effect, what you've got is no firewall in place on the Linux box.
[10:00] <TSWoodV> N6
[10:00] <kristjan_> Ryiel: no need for installing drivers on anything, but
[10:00] <Ryiel> kristjan_: but believe me, i wouldnt mess here if it was working :D
[10:00] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Which is what we want in this circumstance.
[10:00] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I see, yeah, no fw yet because I wanted it working FIRST
[10:00] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: *nod*
[10:01] <TSWoodV> K'zan:  Maybe 7.04 will have better support for you.
[10:01] <kristjan_> Ryiel: and now please cat /proc/interrupts (use pastebin again)
[10:01] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Wise decision to put off the firewall until later.
[10:01] <K`zan> TSWoodV: Will keep eyes open for that (currently edgy).
[10:01] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Now onto the problem at hand.  You want samba running, right?
[10:01] <TSWoodV> K'zan:  Which card/chipset?
[10:01] <K`zan> N6REJ: Why do I see $100+ CityNav in my future, sigh... ?
[10:02] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: lets lock the doors bar the windows, set the alarms, hire security, set shotguns, and then find out why when we open the door we got shot! :P
[10:02] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: LOL!
[10:02] <K`zan> N6REJ: THis GPS stuff sure is an adventure :)
[10:02] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: You've got samba installed?
[10:02] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: How about swat?
[10:02] <N6REJ> K`zan: look at the gprs-10 by garmin, its hard to find, walmart.com sells it but its incredible.
[10:03] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: in but doesn't seem to work.
[10:03] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Swat is the best learning tool for Samba that I've seen.  It's the web-based interface (port 901) with a lot of help.
[10:03] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: So http://localhost:901 doesn't work for you?
[10:03] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: yes, and a very interesting thing with samba is that testparm says the "browseable" on the printers is set to "NO" even though i've implicityly set it to "YES"
[10:03] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: let me try from the server, it doesn't work from my winbox
[10:04] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Pastebin your samba config.
[10:04] <N6REJ> tsw cc
[10:04] <Ryiel> kristjan_: he says there is no output
[10:04] <kristjan_> Ryiel: no way type   cat /proc/interrupts  into konsole
[10:05] <mervteck_> hey channel! whats a good program to disable my CPU power speed control?
[10:05] <mervteck_> im running edgy
[10:05] <Ryiel> kristjan_: hehe, he left the cat part out :D
[10:05] <kristjan_> mervteck_: you mean run at max speed?
[10:05] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11562/
[10:05] <mervteck_> well what i was told to do to fix my bf2 in cedega jumping problem was to disable the cpu power speed control
[10:06] <mervteck_> [13:59]  <booner> probably need to disable your cpu speed power control
[10:06] <kristjan_> mervteck_: not control but frequency scaling
[10:06] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: i'm starting kde up... should I set the domin to example.com now?
[10:06] <mervteck_> k well wuts i gotta do kristjan?
[10:07] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: You can.  I don't think you will need to in this case.
[10:07] <kristjan_> mervteck_: I suggest installing klaptopdaemon (since you run edgy eft)
[10:07] <Ryiel> kristjan_: http://pastebin.ca/407003
[10:07] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: k
[10:07] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: What do you see when you try to browse shares on the samba box from the Windows machine(s)?
[10:07] <mervteck_> do you think its going to fix the problem im havin?
[10:07] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: error loading localhost 901 could not connect to host localhost ( port 091)
[10:08] <kristjan_> mervteck_: yes it is for sure
[10:08] <N6REJ> grrrr 901 even
[10:08] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: nothing, it won't let me.
[10:08] <mervteck_> =) mind helping me work the program when i get it?
[10:08] <kristjan_> Ryiel: hmm, I'm such a noob but there is soundcard there? rtc?
[10:08] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I can see ANY windows and mac shares though
[10:08] <kristjan_> mervteck_: sure
[10:09] <Ryiel> kristjan_: Do you mean what sort of onboard souncard is there?
[10:09] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Try typing "\\driftwood" into Start->Cmd on a Windows box.
[10:09] <mervteck_> ok i installed klaptopdaemon how do i launch it
[10:09] <Ryiel> ac97
[10:09] <kristjan_> Ryiel: I mean I can't find it in your cat /proc/interrupts
[10:09] <kristjan_> mervteck_: 1st you quit your existing one
[10:09] <Ryiel> im a bigger noob, what does that mean? :D
[10:10] <mervteck_> what existing one?
[10:10] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: just to be fair, I had a problem yesterday with my dns records being hijacked!  I couldn't figure out why my windows box was all goofy and I checked its dns server records and they had been changed and hijacked!  So I ran hijack this, fix that and then also changed them back to how they should be... the win box responded much better ( duh ) afterwards.  did 3 virus checks and...
[10:10] <N6REJ> ...nothing was found.
[10:10] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Make sure that you can "ping driftwood" and get the right IP.
[10:10] <kristjan_> mervteck_: that white/black stripes on it thing
[10:10] <kristjan_> mervteck_: in your system tray
[10:11] <mervteck_> i dont even see anything like that =P so must not be running
[10:11] <Ryiel> kristjan_: does it give you any clue? :)
[10:11] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Do be aware that once any machine has been compromised, especially a Windows machine, that it's next to impossible to verify that you've gotten everything cleaned back up.
[10:12] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11563/
[10:12] <kristjan_> Ryiel: here is what you do now, since no it does not give me a clue - describe your problems here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/78667
[10:12] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: yeah, I know I lost sleep last night about it.... I've got 10 years of data on here.... I'm not sure how I'll handle this .... its a VERY scarey propiistion
[10:12] <kristjan_> Ryiel: try to describe your problem with as much detail as you can
[10:13] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Subtle distinction here.  You have to Start->Run and in that line type \\driftwood.  It won't work out of a command window.  Stupid, but that's the way Windows wants it.
[10:13] <kristjan_> mervteck_: did you quit it?
[10:13] <mervteck_> i dont see anything down there liek your talking about so it must not be running
[10:13] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: logon prompt
[10:13] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Bingo!
[10:14] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: What you've not got is a common problem with WINS not knowing driftwood's name yet.
[10:14] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: nope, ok, entered my *NIX username and pw and then it came back and changed my name to \\driftwood\troy and refused the pw
[10:14] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: oh ok
[10:14] <kristjan_> mervteck_: you got laptop right?
[10:14] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: WINS sucks.  Always has.  If you've got an AD server, you'll be better off, but the old NetBIOS stuff really isn't industrial strength.
[10:14] <mervteck_> nope i got dekstop
[10:15] <mervteck_> AMD X2 4600 with 2gb  of DDR400
[10:15] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Did you run "smbpasswd" and add yourself as a user?
[10:15] <kristjan_> mervteck_: oops. does your cpu change frequency?
[10:15] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: but I can type http://driftwood/ in firefox and it takes me straight to the server
[10:15] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: no
[10:15] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Samba doesn't use the /etc/passwd file unless you explicitly tell it to.
[10:15] <mervteck_> like can i overclock it?
[10:15] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: it has at the bottom "USE PAM"
[10:15] <kristjan_> Ryiel: if anything then https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/78667 gives a hint that the bug is not unique to your laptop only
[10:16] <kristjan_> mervteck_: is the GHz constant?
[10:16] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Here's the difference between "\\driftwood" and "http://driftwood" and not being able to see driftwood in Network Neighborhood.  It's a case of using DNS as opposed to WINS.
[10:16] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: OH!
[10:16] <kristjan_> mervteck_: or it changes on demand?
[10:16] <Ryiel> kristjan_: It's not my laptop so im happy :D
[10:16] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: its hard to believe I was once a guru at this
[10:16] <mervteck_> dunno , never really looked
[10:16] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: I don't know that "use pam" overrides the necessity of the smbpasswd file.
[10:16] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok,
[10:17] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: We all forget stuff.  I've just dealt with this stuff in the last couple of months, or I'd be rusty at it too.
[10:17] <Ryiel> kristjan_: i told him to try feisty :)
[10:17] <mervteck_> right now donmon in superkaramba says 1000 MHz but sure dont run like that in games lol
[10:17] <kristjan_> Ryiel: good idea, maybe new kernel does not hang :)
[10:17] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I've been out of it for 10 years now and now, I have several mental issues that causes me to some days not even know my name hardly
[10:17] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: So now you're mostly on your way.  Just create your users via smbpasswd.
[10:17] <N6REJ> k
[10:17] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: I blame mine on advancing age... ;-)
[10:17] <N6REJ> lol
[10:18] <kristjan_> mervteck_: open konsole and type klaptopdaemon
[10:18] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I'm soon to be 46
[10:18] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: I'm a mere 42... ;-)
[10:18] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Going on 142...
[10:18] <K`zan> N6REJ: THis one: http://www.garmin.com/products/gps10/  ?
[10:18] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: man things changed since 29 eh?
[10:18] <mervteck_> Command not found, but i know i downloaded it
[10:18] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Raising three teenagers will getcha quick! ;-)
[10:18] <kristjan_> mervteck_: ok. type klapt and hit TAB
[10:18] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: 29 - that was so last millenium!
[10:19] <kristjan_> mervteck_: what options does it give?
[10:19] <mervteck_> it finished it to klaptop_
[10:19] <kristjan_> mervteck_: press tab again
[10:19] <mervteck_> it just beeps at me
[10:19] <mervteck_> err
[10:19] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Just spend some quality time with swat and its help facility.  Watch out, though.  When you pop help pages, they're HTML and depending upon which browser you're using, they may be hidden a bit.
[10:19] <mervteck_> now it adds check
[10:20] <N6REJ> K`zan: no it looks like this one... http://www.garmin.com/products/gxm30/ but it has a 10 at the end.. gmrs 10?  look at walmart.com
[10:20] <kristjan_> mervteck_: something else?
[10:20] <mervteck_> klaptop_acpi_helper  klaptop_check
[10:20] <K`zan> N6REJ: rr, checking
[10:20] <kristjan_> mervteck_: what do you think is the right one?
[10:20] <Ryiel> kristjan_: acpi off is still necessary to run ubuntu
[10:20] <kristjan_> mervteck_: me thinks klaptop_check
[10:20] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok, now back to what we were doing.. if your going to be here a second, let me add myself to smbpasswd
[10:21] <kristjan_> Ryiel: imo add your comments to that bug report
[10:21] <mervteck_> mervteck@BlackMagik:~$ klaptop_acpi_helper  klaptop_check
[10:21] <mervteck_> Usage: klaptop_acpi_helper [--suspend]  [--standby]  [--hibernate] [--software-suspend] [--toshibalcd N] [--performance CPU N] [--throttling CPU N] [--cpufreq-[24|25|sysfs] ]
[10:21] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: I'll be here for a few more minutes.
[10:21] <kristjan_> mervteck_: run klaptop_check
[10:21] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: how will I get swat to allow me to access it from my winbox?
[10:21] <Ryiel> kristjan_: I will :)
[10:22] <mervteck_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[10:22] <mervteck_>   Major opcode:  147
[10:22] <mervteck_>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:22] <mervteck_>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:22] <mervteck_> Failed to open device
[10:22] <mervteck_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[10:22] <mervteck_>   Major opcode:  147
[10:22] <mervteck_>   Minor opcode:  3
[10:22] <mervteck_>   Resource id:  0x0
[10:22] <mervteck_> Failed to open device
[10:22] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: http://driftwood:901 doesn't work?  Then there must be a config setting somewhere...
[10:22] <kristjan_> !pastebin
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[10:22] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: can I just tell samba to allow anyone in the 192 network to do stuff?
[10:22] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: yeah, thats correct.
[10:23] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: doesn't work locally either
[10:23] <kristjan_> mervteck_: you know just run kcontrol
[10:23] <kristjan_> mervteck_: hit alt+f2 and type in kcontrol
[10:23] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Since it's web-based, there's probably an .htaccess file or a config in the httpd.conf or in /etc/httpd/conf.d that deals with that.  Lemme check...
[10:24] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: k
[10:24] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I'm running apache 2.x
[10:25] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Never mind.  It seems to be standalone, not integrated into Apache.  Lemme check something else...
[10:25] <kraut> i have a problem with konsole. i setup a transparent background but when i open a new tab, i have a black one.
[10:25] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: k
[10:25] <mervteck_> k got it loaded
[10:25] <kraut> i had this problem long ago but don't remember how to fix it
[10:25] <K`zan> N6REJ: Looks like walmart discontinued it - not there :-(.
[10:25] <wolferine> if I am in a game(fullscreen) and I want to leave it running, and had back out to the wm, how can I do it?
[10:25] <N6REJ> K`zan: k, hang on a few
[10:25] <wolferine> i use to use alt-tab in winblows
[10:25] <K`zan> N6REJ: rr sb
[10:26] <LjL> wolferine: i don't know... you could probably have a separate user for games, and start a new X session. then just ctrl+alt+Fx
[10:26] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: It's in my /etc/xinetd.d/swat file.  The "only from" line.
[10:26] <LjL> alt+tab will probably *sometimes* work too
[10:26] <wolferine> really?
[10:26] <mervteck_> kristjan: i got it open now
[10:26] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: oh, that may be the problem I don't have xinetd installed
[10:26] <kristjan_> wolferine: ctl-alt-f1 login and type xinit /usr/bin/application -- :1
[10:26] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: How about /etc/inetd.d then?
[10:26] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: let me look
[10:27] <kristjan_> mervteck_: ok you got open what exactly? kcontrol or klaptopdaemon?
[10:27] <mervteck_> kcontol
[10:27] <mervteck_> kcontrol*
[10:27] <LjL> wolferine: what kristjan_ said i suppose, but there's also support for starting a new X session from inside the GUI... K menu / Switch user
[10:27] <LjL> you do need to have an additional user for that though
[10:27] <LjL> but then, it probably isn't so bad to have a user for games
[10:27] <kristjan_> mervteck_: do you see battery icon in kcontrol
[10:27] <K`zan> N6REJ: If it is even close to the: http://www.garmin.com/products/gps10/  It is pretty kick arse!
[10:28] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: this is weird, "locate swat" comes up with nothing! and its not in inet.d
[10:28] <kristjan_> wolferine: xinit /path/to/your/application -- :1
[10:28] <mervteck_> i see power control and under that i see  battery
[10:28] <wolferine> oh, there was more...
[10:28] <kristjan_> mervteck_: navigate there
[10:28] <N6REJ> K`zan: it was $99
[10:28] <wolferine> yeah, ctrl-alt-f1 doesnt help, wont allow it to run
[10:28] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: I see the problem here.  I was looking at a Fedora Core box.  Lemme see what my Ubuntu box says...
[10:29] <mervteck_> k im here
[10:29] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: k
[10:29] <kristjan_> mervteck_: can you start "battery monitor"?
[10:29] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Check your /etc/inetd.conf file.
[10:29] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: k
[10:30] <kristjan_> wolferine: did you login?
[10:30] <mervteck_> it says  you may need to enable acpi suspent resume in the acpi panel
[10:30] <mervteck_> in power control tab
[10:30] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: You'll find swat there.  But I don't see the access controls there...
[10:30] <wolferine> of course
[10:30] <N6REJ> #<off># netbios-ssn     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/smbd
[10:30] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: It's TCP wrappered, if that's a verb...
[10:30] <N6REJ> swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[10:30] <wolferine> how would I do anything if I didnt login :/
[10:30] <wolferine> lol
[10:30] <pixelation_> is there a way to give wine more memory?
[10:30] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I don't know if I've got wrapper installed or not.  I did the ubuntu server distro
[10:31] <kristjan_> mervteck_: nice can you find the right most tab in kcontrol under that laptop stuff
[10:31] <wolferine> so xinit myapp ?
[10:31] <N6REJ> pixelation_: yes, give it a bigger barrel and let it age more
[10:31] <N6REJ> :P
[10:31] <wolferine> or is there more kristjan_ ?
[10:31] <pixelation_> hehe... I don't understand it very well :(
[10:31] <mervteck_> wheres this?
[10:31] <N6REJ> K`zan: my wifes looking for it now
[10:31] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Access is probably controlled by /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny.  Lemme look a bit more..
[10:31] <kristjan_> wolferine: xinit /path/to/your/app -- :1   (works here)
[10:31] <pixelation_> this windows program always crashes after it has enough data, and Iknow it's memory.
[10:31] <K`zan> N6REJ: NP, but for $99, WOW
[10:31] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: my hosts.allow/deny are both empty
[10:31] <wolferine> ah
[10:32] <wolferine> to display 1 ?
[10:32] <kristjan_> mervteck_: maybe I should install klaptop also :)
[10:32] <wolferine> k, ill give it a try
[10:32] <mervteck_> =)
[10:32] <kristjan_> wolferine: for example xinit neverball -- :1   will start opengl game called "neverball" in ctr alt f8
[10:33] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Try putting "ALL: ALL" in the /etc/hosts.allow file
[10:33] <RealisticDragon> evening all :)
[10:33] <jhutchins> pixelation_: You might find more in #winehq
[10:33] <kristjan_> MervTeck: I can't send pm
[10:33] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok
[10:33] <kristjan_> MervTeck: not registered
[10:33] <N6REJ> K`zan: look for gps 18
[10:33] <MervTeck> lol register! xD
[10:33] <pixelation_> OKs thanks.
[10:33] <kristjan_> MervTeck: let me install klaptopdaemon
[10:34] <MervTeck> kk brb need water
[10:34] <Arwen> anyone know if there's plans to backport k3b 1.0?
[10:34] <kristjan_> MervTeck: you are in edgy eft, right?
[10:34] <K`zan> N6REJ: rr checking now.
[10:34] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok, now my main win box doesn't do anything when I type \\driftwood, let me try the laptop
[10:35] <pixelation_> I have a windows program that I love but the more data it accumilates, it gets to a point where it crashes and I know it's memory related.    Bet it would work with RoadNav and gpsd...  (fyi: http://www.garmin.com/products/gps18/ )
[10:36] <Arwen> anyone? I notice that feisty's k3b is also 0.12.17, are there no plans to backport k3b 1.0 ?
[10:36] <waylandbill> N6REJ: not a guest account. you need a samba account and password
[10:36] <N6REJ> K`zan: yep thats my little gal!
[10:36] <K`zan> N6REJ: If I didn't want to HAVE to lug a laptop, I surely would get one of those.
[10:36] <K`zan> N6REJ: Looks like I am going to have to build my own kernel to get the garmin usb drivers :-(.
[10:37] <N6REJ> K`zan: well, my thought was hey, I can have my email, and have it tell me where to go big enough that I can see and HEAR it, ( it talks to you ) and surf and game and and and
[10:37] <N6REJ> K`zan: I almost ran off the road trying to see those little ones
[10:37] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: WINS is a funny thing.  Sometimes a machine will work, sometimes it won't.  A later job for you would be to make the Samba server win all master browser elections.  Look that one up.
[10:37] <anmol> Hello guys is there a safe way to install KDE 4 on feisty ?
[10:38] <K`zan> N6REJ: Understand, that is why I got it hooked up to RoadNav, here is seattle wandering attention enriches the city and the insurance company WAY too quickly...
[10:38] <jhutchins> anmol: There isn't a "safe" way to installl KDE 4 on anything.
[10:38] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: this is really really weird, cause I've NEVER EVER EVER had this much trouble getting a server to functio not even with ubuntu.  this is what has me so frustrated, it has always JUST WORKED.
[10:38] <MervTeck> Kristjan : register yourself >.<
[10:38] <jhutchins> KDE 4 is beta, at best.
[10:38] <bobbyd> hi
[10:38] <wolferine> kristjan_, now, would it be better to use another user to play, since I will be leaving the game/leaving the WM often?
[10:38] <kristjan_> MervTeck: find this page http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/681/pilt1zf1.png
[10:38] <anmol> so is there a "less" safe way to install KDE 4 on feisty ?
[10:38] <bobbyd> how how do I get compiz working after I install it?
[10:39] <kristjan_> wolferine: what was your problem anyway?
[10:39] <wolferine> bobbyd, how do you install it?
[10:39] <K`zan> N6REJ: a REAL deal when it comes with CityNav (~$100 or so by itself).
[10:39] <bobbyd> wolferine: just from adept
[10:39] <jhutchins> anmol: It's testing software, not production.  If you want to participate in developmental testing, see www.kde.org and #kde-devel.
[10:39] <chijin> kristjan_: what's that window decoration?
[10:39] <anmol> thanks
[10:39] <wolferine> kristjan_, want to play a game, then be able to head back into my WM, and vise versa
[10:39] <kristjan_> chijin: suse2
[10:39] <wolferine> vice*
[10:39] <MervTeck> >.< i cant read that >.< and i also cant find that page exactly
[10:39] <kristjan_> wolferine: using alt-tab?
[10:40] <wolferine> bobbyd, should be in your menu
[10:40] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok, this is progress sort of, but means more questions.... the "hosts" file for the laptop is empty, its doesn't know anything about the server, yet it found it.  that must mean my personal pc is still try to serve up ics or something
[10:40] <wolferine> kristjan_, no, that doesnt work, just any method really
[10:40] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: You're running into several problems at once.  You have to fix them one a time.
[10:40] <wolferine> hopefully logical
[10:40] <kristjan_> wolferine: isn't pressing ctl+alt+f7 and ctl+alt+f8 about same?
[10:40] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: yeah!
[10:40] <jhutchins> N6REJ: SMB/WINS is entirely seperate from TCPIP.  Doesn't use the hosts file.
[10:40] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I'm wondering now if my big box is still comprimised
[10:40] <bobbyd> wolferine: where? I can't see it anywhere...
[10:41] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: How did the laptop find it?  Via \\driftwood, or via "ping driftwood"?  The difference is WINS vs. DNS there.
[10:41] <N6REJ> jhutchins: explain please?
[10:41] <wolferine> f8 ?
[10:41] <wolferine> never used f8
[10:41] <kristjan_> MervTeck: ? what takes you so long?
[10:41] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: \\driftwood
[10:41] <kristjan_> wolferine: I mean with xinit
[10:41] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: I never trust a Windows box that's been compromised unless I nuke it from orbit.  There's just too many ways to hide malware in Windows.
[10:41] <N6REJ> orbit?
[10:42] <jhutchins> N6REJ: samba is SMB/WINS - windows networking.  Not a simple explanation.
[10:42] <MervTeck> Kristjan: lol well one i cant read your screen and 2 what im in is similar to what u have bbut not the same as mine really...
[10:42] <N6REJ> jhutchins: oh ok
[10:42] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: \\driftwood success means that WINS is sorta working.
[10:42] <K`zan> Where is the kernel config for the running kernel in Ubuntu, I dread having to configure a kernel from scratch...
[10:42] <wolferine> kristjan_, please explain
[10:42] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I never have either
[10:42] <wolferine> bobbyd, under System ?
[10:42] <kristjan_> MervTeck: sure, your's is in different language
[10:42] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: "nuke it from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure." - cheesy line from an even cheesier movie.
[10:42] <kristjan_> wolferine: where did you application start using that xinit trick?
[10:43] <K`zan> TSWoodV: Nuking from orbit, has so many delightful possibilities LOL!
[10:43] <MervTeck> Kristjan: but i also have everything in a list not liek yours, theres no back button or nothing
[10:43] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: CC, thats kinda what I'm afraid of.  Can I safely move my "data" to the *nix box and know thats its integrity is ok on the reup?
[10:43] <wolferine> i went into a shell, alt-ctrl-f1
[10:43] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Hijack this is a good start, but did you run it from safe mode?  I'd pull the HD and stick it in another Windows box or an external enclosure and scan it with the other box.  Antivirus, anti-spyware, rootkit finders, etc.
[10:43] <wolferine> started the game
[10:43] <kristjan_> MervTeck: post yours then
[10:43] <jhutchins> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090605/quotes
[10:43] <N6REJ> damn if I didn't want to play win games!
[10:43] <MervTeck> i dont even have the ACPI list
[10:43] <wolferine> then I can ctrl-alt-f7 back into my wm
[10:43] <jhutchins> (reference for the original quote)
[10:43] <TSWoodV> K`zan: It sure does.  Makes a nice level spot for the next computer too!  Smooth and glassy! ;-)(
[10:43] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: no I didn't run hijack from safemod
[10:44] <K`zan> N6REJ: I gave up on a lot of games simply because I had to run them under wincrap :-(.
[10:44] <kristjan_> wolferine: yeah and the game still runs in ctl alt f8?
[10:44] <kristjan_> wolferine: so it's basically same as alt-tab
[10:44] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Load clamav on the Linux box, update it via freshclam, and scan the data files once you get them to the Ubuntu box.
[10:45] <wolferine> oh, it failed when I went back into ctrl-alt-f1
[10:45] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Note, I don't particularly trust clamav to catch everything.  No antivirus product will do that on any platform.  But it's another tool that you can use.
[10:45] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok, I'll take an 80G that I have in my winbox that I'm not really using and move that over else I won't have enough room
[10:45] <kristjan_> wolferine: ah forget it then...
[10:45] <wolferine> so if i c-a-f1, start game, then c-a-f7 back, i want to c-a-f8 to get back into the game?
[10:45] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: I'm only worried about "data".  The program I can either replace or hopefully find the key to
[10:45] <kristjan_> MervTeck: what tabs you got?
[10:46] <N6REJ> there are only 2 that I care about and thats adobe and blaze
[10:46] <kristjan_> MervTeck: 7 tabs?
[10:46] <wolferine> cause c-a-f1 doesnt work, the game is cancelled
[10:46] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Your best bet to make sure that there's a lesser chance of malware defeating your scanning tools is to run them in safe mode.  And that's not even enough to ensure that you've not got bad stuff already running.
[10:46] <wolferine> i just have a shell prompt
[10:46] <blekos> somethings wrong with my Kontact (using feisty fawn) and when i press check for new mails i get the message "transmisison complete. no new messages" but it has not even attempted to connect to my accounts!!
[10:46] <wolferine> find it bobbyd
[10:46] <wolferine> ?
[10:46] <MervTeck> Kristjan: 1 sec uploading
[10:46] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: yep... only real way and wipe, kill partitions, and then rebuild
[10:46] <bobbyd> wolferine: it's not there for me under feisty
[10:46] <MervTeck> Kristjan:http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3xe6.jpg
[10:47] <bobbyd> wolferine: I just installed compiz-kde
[10:47] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Google for DBAN.  Daryl's Boot and Nuke.  Self-contained ISO that really gives a hard drive a good scrubbing.
[10:47] <N6REJ> *sigh*
[10:47] <K`zan> Ubuntu gives you a binary kernel without /proc/config?  REALLY?
[10:47] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: ok, will doo.
[10:47] <emsd> how to install sagem fast 800 in ubuntu
[10:47] <K`zan> Man, that sucks MAJORLY.
[10:47] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Just for info's sake, what types of anti-malware software were you running on that box when it got hit?
[10:47] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: thanks for all your help
[10:47] <N6REJ> avg
[10:48] <N6REJ> windows defender
[10:48] <kristjan_> MervTeck: too bad, seems you can't use it to put cpu on max frequency
[10:48] <N6REJ> windows firewall
[10:48] <wolferine> ah fiesty
[10:48] <wolferine> no idea then
[10:48] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: That scares me.  AVG has done me well.  Windows Defender sucks, though.
[10:48] <MervTeck> =\
[10:48] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Try Avast then.
[10:48] <wolferine> u dont have an icon for it somewhere bobbyd ?
[10:48] <fdoving> K`zan: the config is found in /boot/config-*
[10:48] <bobbyd> wolferine: not that I can see :(
[10:48] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: yeah, I was blown away... wait a minute was it avg or avast let me look
[10:48] <TSWoodV> N6REJ: Was it reasonably up to date?
[10:48] <kristjan_> MervTeck: can you launch the battery monitor in fist tab lower right corner?
[10:48] <N6REJ> TSWoodV: avast
[10:48] <N6REJ> yes
[10:48] <N6REJ> it auto updates