[09:11] <exerd> the screen goes black when starting it. i installed it via textbased installation
[09:11] <CaptB0rk> can someone please help? :( it was working perfectly just a moment ago.
[09:11] <tatters> Linux has a V good free flight sim called flightgeardont think there is combat though,
[09:11] <fangorious> exerd: you using an ati graphics card?
[09:11] <exerd> fangorious: yes ati x700se and i tried this guide http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/
[09:12] <strabes> fangorious: yes she is and everything we've tried hasn't worked. installing fglrx, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, even the vesa driver doesn't work
[09:12] <fangorious> exerd: laptop?
[09:12] <beni> ! | beni | beni
[09:12] <centrinel> have you try easyubuntu ? most people said it's a useful app
[09:12] <beni> !ape | beni | beni
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <exerd> fangorious: no not a laptop
[09:13] <strabes> exerd: oh i thought you were on a laptop. you should just buy an nvidia card. then you'll never have to worry about graphics stuff
[09:13] <exerd> so damn frustrating
[09:13] <megafauna> Hi, what do i do when i find a website that i need IE to use?
[09:13] <strabes> megafauna: not use that website :)
[09:13] <greg_> my computer keeps freezing b/c of kcpid
[09:13] <greg_> kacpid
[09:13] <morrolan> Hi, how can I start a process over SSH and not have it terminate if I become disconnected?
[09:13] <fangorious> ok, not the probably no tthe problem I'm thinking of then. although the solution to the one I'm thinking of is to add "Option" "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,auto" to the [ati]  device section of xorg.conf
[09:13] <exerd> well i really want this to work with my current card
[09:13] <megafauna> strabes: that is harsh.....
[09:14] <strabes> megafauna: there's a firefox extension called IEtab. not sure if that would work. probably not.
[09:14] <megafauna> strabes: i kinda agree though.
[09:14] <greg_> morrolan: screen < command >
[09:14] <megafauna> strabes i'm cheking it out.
[09:14] <morrolan> greg_ so I just type screen first then?
[09:14] <greg_> yes
[09:14] <CaptB0rk> quit
[09:14] <morrolan> greg_ cheers, so simple!
[09:16] <roy> hey guys
[09:16] <roy> im new to ubuntu and iv'e been haveing some problems
[09:16] <roy> anyone can help?
[09:16] <strabes> roy: just ask
[09:16] <roy> k... here goes....
[09:17] <roy> i have an nvidia  fx 5500 card
[09:17] <robinsjostrom3> ok i got disconnected tell me what to add to xorg.conf again please
[09:17] <evo> hello
[09:17] <roy> and i use ubuntu 7.04
[09:17] <greg_> My computer keeps freezing because of kacpid and kacpi_notify. They use 99% of the processor when I look in `top`.  How can I remove kacpid or disable it or seomthing?
[09:17] <greg_> My computer keeps freezing because of kacpid and kacpi_notify. They use 99% of the processor when I look in `top`.  How can I remove kacpid or disable it or seomthing?
[09:18] <roy> i installed nvidia-glx and when i reboot the screen freez
[09:18] <megafauna> strabes no, it says on theri page that you need windows....
[09:18] <fangorious> robinsjostrom3: in the Device section for your card, I believe you add a line like this: "Option" "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,auto"
[09:18] <jbinder> Hi
[09:18] <jbinder> I can't install ubuntu.
[09:18] <jbinder> It keeps erroring while I'm installing
[09:18] <evo> i use UB7.04, i want progrma for p2p file sharing
[09:18] <greg_> My computer keeps freezing because of kacpid and kacpi_notify. They use 99% of the processor when I look in `top`.  How can I remove kacpid or disable it or something? **
[09:18] <greg_> jbinder: you suck
[09:19] <einPaule> jbinder, did you check the cd for errors?
[09:19] <roy> anyone?
[09:19] <infidel> !flock
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <afief> I got a series of pictures which I want to turn into a movie file, which program should i use for that?
[09:19] <einPaule> greg_, go away
[09:19] <jbinder> yes, it said that there were errors
[09:19] <fangorious> roy: did you just install that one package, or did you use System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager?
[09:19] <greg_> i'm friends with jbinder
[09:19] <greg_> lol
[09:19] <fangorious> afief: iMovie
[09:20] <roy> both
[09:20] <robinsjostrom3> fangorious: ok i can try that
[09:20] <roy> i tried it 4 times
[09:20] <einPaule> well, then reburn the image if it passes the md5 check
[09:20] <afief> fangorious, doesn't exist in the repositories
[09:20] <tatters> roy:you probsably have a problem with xorg I am also new but I beleive sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and runnig through the options pressing OK to accept defaults will help
[09:20] <roy> after the screen freez i usually go to safe mode and replacing the xorg.conf with abackup i got and then everything is cool
[09:21] <fangorious> roy: did you check what /var/log/Xorg.0.log says while in safe mode?
[09:21] <elpe> edit /etc/default/acpi-support   , POST_VIDEO=false
[09:22] <einPaule> well, then reburn the image if it passes the md5 check, jbinder
[09:22] <CientificoLoco> how do I make a secury tranfer of money?
[09:22] <fangorious> afief: I'm not sure what to use (iMovie is part of Apple iLife ...)
[09:22] <sashimi> hi everybody
[09:22] <evo> hello
[09:22] <afief> fangorious, so any advice on free software?
[09:22] <fangorious> sashimi: HI DR. SASHIMI
[09:22] <evo> help with new user
[09:22] <elpe> roy, POST_VIDEO=false in /etc/default/acpi-support
[09:22] <robinsjostrom3> fangorious: that didnt work
[09:22] <evo> please help
[09:22] <fangorious> robinsjostrom3: bummer
[09:23] <robinsjostrom3> damn i cant get it what the hell is not working
[09:23] <sashimi> I'm desperatly trying to get my dual screen working, with my old ati 2400+ and the free ati drivers
[09:23] <neverblue> who was helping me with Apache?
[09:23] <fangorious> evo: azureus (bittorrent)
[09:23] <shedman> I'm trying to get dual screen working too
[09:23] <evo> im really happy not using windows, i love ubuntu
[09:23] <sashimi> shedman, with ati rubbish too ?
[09:23] <fangorious> robinsjostrom3: ati sucks on linux, and i'm in the same boat with an hp laptop
[09:23] <shedman> I've just installed an Nvidia PCI-express card
[09:24] <fangorious> afief: sorry, maybe do a search for mjpeg in synaptic
[09:24] <roy> elpe: how do i do that?
[09:24] <sashimi> shedman, nvidia is supposed to be much more powerful in dualheading, you can use nview (I was told)
[09:24] <evo> yet i would like certain things like bit torrent
[09:24] <elpe> roy,  edit this file
[09:24] <elpe> sudo gedit /etc/default/acpi-support
[09:25] <skenmy> evo - just look around, there are plenty of programs that do what you need :)
[09:25] <skenmy> Azureus, for one.
[09:25] <Jubilee1991919> Does anyone know How I might change grub to boot into Vista automatically? Rather than Ubunut?
[09:25] <Jubilee1991919> Ubuntu*
[09:25] <skenmy> Jubilee1991919, /etc/grub/menu.lst
[09:25] <fangorious> anyone know how to stop NetworkManager from configuring an interface? I want my ethernet card to use DHCP but I have some extra DNS search domains I want used (the DHCP server just advertises the DHCP domain)
[09:25] <CientificoLoco> I wanna bougth a tickets by internet.... how do I make it with a good secure?
[09:25] <skenmy> change the "default" line
[09:25] <roy> elpe: and paste it where?
[09:25] <fangorious> I always thought Ubunut was cooler
[09:25] <skenmy> to the number of the entry that Vista is
[09:25] <evo> im really new, i want to know what files to download
[09:26] <IndyGunFreak> evo: what are you tryin to do?
[09:26] <neverblue> who was helping me with Apache?
[09:26] <neverblue> sorry, I wasnt logging
[09:26] <skenmy> evo - for Azureus you can do "sudo apt-get install azureus"
[09:26] <Jubilee1991919> Thanks, and I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless network. It's a 2WIRE router, but idk what kind of key I need
[09:26] <robinsjostrom3> ok this was my experience with ubuntu and i think im switching back to win unfortunatley
[09:26] <Jubilee1991919> Like, a WEP key or something
[09:26] <evo> get limewire for linux
[09:26] <IndyGunFreak> evo: use frostwire.
[09:26] <skenmy> neverblue - if you can restate your problem someone else can try :)
[09:26] <fangorious> evo: from the Applications menu, select "Add/Remove Applications" select Internet on the left
[09:27] <neverblue> skenmy, this person knew what they are doing :)
[09:27] <jovans> hi@all
[09:27] <evo> search "frostwire"
[09:27] <Jubilee1991919> I have the key, it's on the bottom of the router but there are a bunch of different kinds of keys, idk which one to use
[09:27] <IndyGunFreak> evo: go to http://www.frostwire.com
[09:27] <skenmy> neverblue - so do many others.
[09:27] <neverblue> true
[09:27] <psycose> hi
[09:27] <neverblue> i hope :)
[09:27] <fangorious> evo: there amule, azureus, gift*, ...
[09:27] <database> I installed a minimal Ubuntu Dapper install in order to upgrade to Feisty.
[09:27] <database> Is there a metapackage I can install to do this?
[09:28] <psycose> i'm looking for help with bad sectors in my hard drive (laptop) here is my questions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19016/ thanks
[09:28] <neverblue> so I am trying to "redo" my apache install, I am not getting a nice new install each time, #1 sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart/start/stop doesnt work
[09:28] <database> (If not, what is the command to do a "dist-upgrade" (or similar) in a console?)
[09:28] <rambo3> database, wjy do you mean?
[09:28] <sashimi> database, I'd say it is much weiser starting again from scratch rather than "upgrading"
[09:28] <skenmy> neverblue, sudo apt-get uninstall apache2?
[09:28] <m1ce> whenever i am connected to a network (LAN or wifi) my CPU usage is at a constant 100%.  when disconnected it is at a normal idle level.  does anyone know what this could be?
[09:28] <fangorious> sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2
[09:28] <skenmy> that would be better
[09:28] <neverblue> #2 in the apache2.conf, it makes reference to /etc/apache2/httpd.conf, which is no longer one my system
[09:28] <skenmy> thank you fangorious
[09:29] <neverblue> skenmy, i was using synaptic actually
[09:29] <sashimi> m1ce, module problem i suppose
[09:29] <thelostpatrol> hey, i have no shut down or restart buttons... please help me get them back
[09:29] <rambo3> !info ubuntu-standard  | database
[09:29] <ubotu> database: ubuntu-standard: The Ubuntu standard system. In component main, is standard. Version 1.43 (feisty), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[09:29] <skenmy> same meat different gravy ;)
[09:29] <fangorious> m1ce: ceiling cat is in your b0x0r, steaing your cpu cyklez
[09:29] <neverblue> skenmy, i was doing a complete removal of apache and apache-common
[09:29] <neverblue> then reinstalling apache...
[09:29] <skenmy> Synaptic is a frontend for apt
[09:29] <m1ce> sashimi, do you know how i would look into that?
[09:29] <skenmy> right
[09:29] <skenmy> yup
[09:29] <neverblue> (apache2) in this case
[09:29] <evo> wow maid for linux/ubuntu
[09:30] <neverblue> skenmy, were those replies for me?
[09:30] <skenmy> yup :)
[09:30] <sashimi> m1ce, hmm not at all I'm afraid :/
[09:30] <neverblue> im a bit past the understanding that synaptic is a frontend for apt :)
[09:30] <m1ce> okay, thanks
[09:31] <skenmy> Not intended as a jab at your intelligence.
[09:31] <thelostpatrol> hey, i have no shut down or restart buttons... please help me get them back
[09:31] <neverblue> currently I am needed to use apache2ctl to start/restart the apache server
[09:31] <skenmy> right
[09:31] <database> Cheers guys, I found it.
[09:31] <skenmy> have you actually tried uninstalling and reinstalling apache2 yet or does it not work?
[09:31] <database> And I AM starting from scratch :p
[09:32] <fangorious> anyone good with ldap?
[09:32] <database> t have the time/patience to burn another disc.
[09:32] <henk> @thelostpatrol  right klick your gnome panel left klick add tot he panel to add the bittons
[09:32] <neverblue> so skenmy anymore suggestions?
[09:32] <seamus7> Hi.. I can't access some admin apps under System/Administration .. like Services, Networking, and UsersandGroups .... when I try to open one in a terminal I get an Authentication Rejected error message ????
[09:32] <database> Woah. Irssi a splode.
[09:32] <skenmy> neverblue, my last message
[09:32] <fangorious> seamus7: is your account in the adm group?
[09:32] <thelostpatrol> henk, it's not that. they don't appear in the shutdown menu at all
[09:33] <thelostpatrol> henk, i have hibernate and stuff like that but no shut down or restart
[09:33] <abelard> I can't get my mic to work with audacity
[09:33] <macd> Has anyone experienced problems with ipw2200 wireless, not being able to obtion an address via dhcp, and it is associated with the AP.
[09:33] <seamus7> fangorious: I assume yes since it's the only account I set up when installing Feisty
[09:33] <psycose> i'm looking for help with bad sectors in my hard drive (laptop) here is my questions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19016/ thanks
[09:33] <neverblue> skenmy, well, since i already tried that, ill ask again, anymore ideas?
[09:33] <fangorious> seamus7: run an 'id -a' just to be sure
[09:33] <skenmy> well it's useless you saying that
[09:33] <skenmy> We need more information on what is going wrong
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol log out off gnome press ctrl + alt + F1 to switch to console
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol cd /etc/init.d
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol ./stop gdm
[09:34] <neverblue> skenmy, well, this remove/reinstall doesnt seem to be happening
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol apt-get remove gnome-panel
[09:34] <henk> @thelostpatrol apt-get install gnome-panel
[09:34] <neverblue> skenmy, im sure the remove might be fine... but i am thinking its the reinstall
[09:35] <thelostpatrol> is that all of it?
[09:35] <thelostpatrol> i'll try it now
[09:35] <neverblue> maybe just do it cli, just to troubleshoot
[09:35] <seamus7> fangorious: it says ...... groups=4(adm) .........
[09:35] <henk> @thelostpatrol yep
[09:35] <thelostpatrol> k
[09:35] <henk> @thelostpatrol *gg* ;)
[09:35] <fangorious> seamus7: k, always good to be sure
[09:35] <skenmy> cli is always good.
[09:35] <lezi_guy> hello everyone
[09:35] <neverblue> skenmy, so a "complete removal" in cli is aptitude purge?
[09:35] <BoneE> is there a way to run ubuntu on USB drive
[09:36] <skenmy> apt-get uninstall
[09:36] <skenmy> as far as I am aware, neverblue
[09:36] <neverblue> skenmy, no,  im not using apt-get uninstall
[09:36] <seamus7> fangorious: I've also noticed that when I try to open nautilus as root nothing happens
[09:36] <dyrne> BoneE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[09:36] <lezi_guy> ubuntu installation
[09:36] <skenmy> ...and why not?
[09:36] <neverblue> so sudo aptitude purge apache2 apache-common ?
[09:36] <lezi_guy> dual boot
[09:37] <skenmy> ahha
[09:37] <skenmy> because uninstall doesn't exist - what am I thinking
[09:37] <henk> @lezi_guy first install windows then install ubuntu
[09:37] <seamus7> fangorious: it all was working perfectly just a couple hours ago ...
[09:37] <skenmy> neverblue, ignore my moments of madness. Yes, try that command.
[09:37] <sebastianffx> hi, somebody have install Gabedit?
[09:37] <lezi_guy> thanks henk for paying attention
[09:38] <sebastianffx> becouse i have a trouble
[09:38] <henk> @lezi_guy np ;)
[09:38] <lezi_guy> actually I did a huge mess with my pc in last 2 days
[09:38] <lezi_guy> I did install ubuntu 2 times already
[09:38] <sebastianffx> hi, somebody have install Gabedit??????
[09:38] <henk> @lezi_guy *omg*
[09:38] <lezi_guy> wanted to have local web server on it and couldnt manage to install it
[09:39] <fangorious> sebastianffx: I don't think anyone heard you, try all caps ;p
[09:39] <henk> @lezi_guy as root run apt-get install apache2
[09:39] <skenmy> fangorious, don't encourage them :P
[09:39] <lezi_guy> I dont know much cmd prompt language
[09:39] <fangorious> seamus7: did you enable a root account password or something?
[09:39] <seamus7> What is gksu as opposed to gksudo and sudo?
[09:39] <lezi_guy> familiar with graphics only
[09:39] <neverblue> skenmy, you good with apache/php installs?
[09:39] <lezi_guy> gui lol
[09:39] <skenmy> I can try my best
[09:40] <henk> @lezi_guy sry, but then i think a webserver eg. apache2 is not good for you to start with
[09:40] <skenmy> being a server admin I'm smarter than the average bear
[09:40] <mjr> seamus7, that's for changing a user with that user's own password, as opposed to gksudo changing to root with the changing user's password
[09:40] <Pelo> lezi_guy,  you'll find this usefull then   http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[09:40] <lezi_guy> ok I will keep apache on windows
[09:40] <gr2> excuse me, Im using xchat, but on the left I cant see which users are logged on. how can I view the users list??
[09:40] <neverblue> skenmy, if my browser is not "viewing" php files, but allowing me to dl them, does that mean apache doesnt have php enabled?
[09:40] <henk> @lezi_guy or you can use the gadmin tools
[09:40] <lezi_guy> but now I need to install ubuntu on f drive
[09:40] <lezi_guy> f: thats the large volumed one
[09:40] <skenmy> very possibly, neverblue
[09:40] <seamus7> fangorious: not to my knowledge ... i had just been in the Gnome Control Panel looking through the various apps and I had just enabled a service under System/Admin/Services ...
[09:40] <henk> @lezi_guy check google for gadmin tools
[09:41] <neverblue> so its not reading the extensions .php and processing them properly?
[09:41] <skenmy> or PHP is not loaded
[09:41] <lezi_guy> ok henk
[09:41] <skenmy> sudo apt-get install apache2 php5
[09:41] <Pelo> gr2,  in the view menu  , member list , or try to resize the members list on the right , it might be hiden, must mouse over
[09:41] <lezi_guy> I will google it
[09:41] <skenmy> that should do it for you iirc
[09:41] <bXi> does anyone know why my mouse pointer moves in steps of like 3/4 pixels at a time
[09:41] <henk> @lezi_guy ok good luck
[09:41] <neverblue> so what is needed to change in the apache2.conf to setup php?
[09:41] <lezi_guy> thank you so much henk
[09:41] <seamus7> mjr: well my admin apps that use gksu in their launcher aren't responding for some reason ... I notice an "authetication rejected" error message if I try to open them in a terminal ???
[09:41] <henk> @lezi_guy np dude ;)
[09:42] <skenmy> neverblue, im not that proficient :)
[09:42] <skenmy> try a google
[09:42] <skenmy> it's a common issue I have no doubt
[09:42] <Pelo> bXi,  it's very hard to tell why  but are all your app slow ?
[09:42] <gr2> Pelo: in view I have USERlist buttons, and its checked., but i still cant see anything :-( what could be wrong
[09:42] <bXi> no Pelo
[09:42] <bXi> everythings fast
[09:42] <mjr> seamus7, ubuntu has no root password by default so you can't su to it as such, without setting a root pw
[09:43] <gr2> Pelo: ok found it
[09:43] <seamus7> mjr: ok yeah i never set a root password
[09:43] <bXi> probably some dpi mismatch or something
[09:43] <Pelo> gr2, resized ?
[09:43] <clever> seamus7: try setting the progs to use gksudo
[09:43] <neverblue> how do I get apache2 and php5 to work together (anyone)
[09:43] <gr2> yeah. for some reason it had disappeared on the right of the screen. by changing to tree layout it popped out!
[09:43] <macd> is there anyway to change what broadcast is on my wireless card, so dhcp requests go somewhere else
[09:44] <gr2> Pelo; you have any idea if wireless is bugged on ubuntu?
[09:44] <henk> @neverblue apt-get install apache2 php5
[09:44] <Braddf0rd> Hello ever1, I need help with wireless connectivity in Ubuntu...
[09:44] <skenmy> I already told you this, neverblue.
[09:44] <Yahooadam> i have 2 HDD's in my PC, how can i enable/format the second one in ubuntu, is there a HDD management tool ?
[09:44] <neverblue> henk, i didnt say install
[09:44] <gr2> Perlo; because on the connection i am now, network works fine, but wireless wont connect
[09:44] <gr2> Pero; because on the connection i am now, network works fine, but wireless wont connect
[09:44] <henk> @neverblue *lol*
[09:44] <neverblue> henk, :/
[09:44] <gr2> Pelo; because on the connection i am now, network works fine, but wireless wont connect
[09:44] <fear> Hello
[09:44] <Pelo> gr2,   I wouldn'T say bugged I would say requiring some effort to get working , but I know nothing about wifi
[09:44] <skenmy> I thought you said you were past a certain level of knowledge, neverblue
[09:44] <henk> @neverblue how do you mean to work ??
[09:44] <Braddf0rd> Is anyone here good with networking?
[09:44] <henk> @neverblue some more info please ;)
[09:45] <Pelo> !wifi > gr2  chek your pm window for instructions
[09:45] <seamus7> clever: I'm stumped .. neither gksu nor gksudo works ... the app asks for my password but then freezes ... all is see is a blank white window pop up but no data within it ... very strange
[09:45] <gr2> pelo: ok :-) I will bother someone else now than. thanks a bunch though
[09:45] <fear> Can someone help me?
[09:45] <Shrimpy_> gr2: what  wireless card do you have?   (lspic    on the terminal)
[09:45] <Pelo> Braddf0rd,  your more likely to get help if you ask a specific question
[09:45] <Pelo> fear,  we can'T we donT, knwo your problem
[09:45] <clever> seamus7: if you use sudo -i in a term youll get a root shell
[09:45] <fear> sorry:P
[09:45] <clever> seamus7: wihtout having to set a root password
[09:45] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ooops i mean " lspci "  lol
[09:46] <seamus7> clever: will that help me with something?
[09:46] <gr2> shrimpy: woah that gave me a huge output
[09:46] <clemare> Question: I wnet to download the last version of ubuntu but I can't find the PowerPC version.... What happend!?
[09:46] <fear> 6. Next you need to get your hands on the windows file 'msgsm32.acm' from an existing windows partition (C:/WINDOWS/system32/msgsm32.acm) and copy it to '~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system/'. but i cant see /.wine (how can i see it)
[09:46] <clever> seamus7: you could run the whole prog from root if its just this one time
[09:46] <neverblue> henk, I cannot see phpinfo();
[09:46] <Braddf0rd> Pelo, I'm trying to connect to my wireless router, WEP64 Hex with password and set to open, and it will not connect. I don't know which part ir failing, but my Mac and Vista on this machine both connect, but Ubuntu Will not
[09:47] <Shrimpy_> gr2: yeah it should be near the bottom. you should see ethernet controller   and then network controller
[09:47] <neverblue> skenmy, what are you implying?
[09:47] <clever> seamus7: you may need to update DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY though for X progs to work from within sudo -i
[09:47] <gr2> shrimpy: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[09:47] <henk> @neverblue are you sure you installed php on your box correctly ??
[09:47] <seamus7> clever: how do i do that?
[09:47] <Shrimpy_> gr2: is this a laptop or desktop
[09:47] <Pelo> !wifi > Braddf0rd  check your pm window  that's all I can do for you
[09:47] <gr2> shrimpy: toshiba laptop
[09:47] <fear> Can i copu the file to ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system/
[09:47] <henk> @neverblue install webmin it makes life much easyer
[09:47] <fear> copy
[09:47] <clever> seamus7: do echo $DISPLAY $XAUTHORITY in a normal term
[09:47] <Braddf0rd> ? !wifi?
[09:48] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok give me a second i have to do something real fast
[09:48] <Pelo> fear,  yes,  just unhide the folders  crtl +h
[09:48] <clever> seamus7: then export DISPLAY=... and export XAUTHORIZTY=.... in the sudo -i  term
[09:48] <gr2> shrimpy: I will be right here! thanks
[09:48] <Pelo> Braddf0rd, check your pm windows
[09:48] <henk> @neverblue what does http://localhost tell you -->>> is APACHE running ?
[09:48] <fear> thanks:D
[09:48] <Braddf0rd> Pelo, what's a PM window (Ima nub)
[09:48] <thelostpatrol> henk, didn't work
[09:48] <thelostpatrol> henk, couldn't do ./stop gdm
[09:49] <fear> Bye and thanks
[09:49] <thelostpatrol> henk, said there was no such thing
[09:49] <henk> @thelostpatrol ./gdm stop
[09:49] <skenmy> hmm, how does one restart the sound daemon?
[09:49] <thelostpatrol> k
[09:49] <Pelo> Braddf0rd,   in your IRC client ( the app you are using now to talk to me ) and extra window sjust appeared,  could be a tab at the bottom  or an extra one in the tree list on the left , it 'S from ubotu,  check it for instrucons
[09:49] <nosbig> Can anyone on help me solve a problem with ubuntu?
[09:49] <Braddf0rd> Pelo, also, how would I hide other partitions from showing?
[09:49] <Draconicus> Is it possible to get spyware in Ubuntu Linux?
[09:49] <henk> @thelostpatrol this stops your gnome and you can uninstall your gnome-panel
[09:49] <seamus7> clever: i'm sorry but what will this allow me to do in the end that will address my problem opening admin apps?? sorry i don't get it
[09:49] <evo> i need help with azurez
[09:49] <henk> @thelostpatrol then reinstall it
[09:49] <neverblue> henk, apache is running
[09:49] <Draconicus> Or adware, rather?
[09:49] <__mikem> Does anyone know any good IDE's for ubuntu that are not writen in java besides Anjuta and KDevelop
[09:49] <henk> @thelostpatrol then reinstall it with apt-get install gnome-panel
[09:49] <clever> seamus7: yuou can start the prog within the root shell
[09:50] <neverblue> henk, its apache that isnt installed corectly
[09:50] <clever> seamus7: and it will be in root from the start and wont need gksu
[09:50] <evo> azureus
[09:50] <nosbig> For some reason, when I get on the UBUNTU loading screen, shit all happens.. How can I fix it?
[09:50] <neverblue> the synaptic install of apache isnt so hot
[09:50] <Pelo> Braddf0rd,  hidding partitons ?  the best you can do is mount them somewhere hidden,  you can'T actualy hide a partition
[09:50] <henk> @neverblue is it running or not ?
[09:50] <thelostpatrol> henk, thank you, i have your instructions written down from before
[09:50] <thelostpatrol> brb
[09:50] <evo> azureus help plesse
[09:50] <seamus7> clever: but when i try to use gksu it won't work so why would the root shell be any different?
[09:50] <AlberTUX> does anybody knows where are the wireless configuration saved? (networkmanager)
[09:50] <henk> @thelostpatrol ok good luck dude
[09:51] <clever> seamus7: if your allready root it wont need a password
[09:51] <Braddf0rd> Hmm, owell. Thanks pelo
[09:51] <Pelo> AlbertoP,   a hidden folder in /home  mahybe
[09:51] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok i'm back
[09:51] <henk> @neverblue GOING FOR A COFFEE BACK IN A MINUTE
[09:51] <evo> how do i download torrent?
[09:51] <joselj> how can i change the network manager ring password in feisty?
[09:51] <Shrimpy_> gr2: on network manager can you see wireless connections?
[09:51] <AlbertoP> Pelo, wrong nick I think :-)
[09:51] <gr2> shrimpy: if im not roaming mode, yes
[09:51] <|chiz|> does anyone know a good internet radio player or site?
[09:51] <evo> i used to windows term
[09:51] <gr2> shrimpy: it gives me the networks, with a percentage of the vicinity
[09:51] <AlberTUX>  does anybody knows where are the wireless configuration saved? (networkmanager)
[09:51] <evo> what is a torrent
[09:51] <neverblue> henk, roger that
[09:52] <evo> ahhhhhhhhh
[09:52] <Pelo> evo,  you need a bittorrent client,  there is one installed in utorrent ( bittorrent) but there is no gui,   check the menu > applications > add /remove and search for bitorrent
[09:52] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok so when you try and connect the two ball orbs never turn green (never connects)
[09:52] <DVS01> is there a package that implements an interface to /etc/init.d scripts via a 'service' command a la redhat?
[09:52] <seamus7> clever: i think we are trying to address different issues ... i want to bring my system back to its working state in which I could click on an admin app in System/Admin and use it normally ... that's all
[09:52] <dountby> hi
[09:52] <|chiz|> AlberTux its in the gnome conf manager
[09:52] <ploom> hi, Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  mail/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[09:52] <ward_> how do i know what command a program is after i install it, please?
[09:52] <clever> seamus7: ahhh :S
[09:53] <evo> i just wanna have things like when i used windows... but i really wanna work around never using windows again
[09:53] <seamus7> clever: i wasn't very clear sorry
[09:53] <henk> @neverblue OK IM BACK
[09:53] <joselj> when i go to network properties i can't finf a password option
[09:53] <henk> @neverblue ;)
[09:53] <dountby> has anyone an idea how to set the iconsize for the gnome-desktop?
[09:53] <Pelo> AlberTUX,   a hidden folder in /home  mahybe
[09:53] <ploom> what is wron with update-manager (trying to upgrade from edgy to feisty)?
[09:53] <neverblue> henk, stop yelling at me :P
[09:53] <henk> @neverblue ;)
[09:53] <dountby> my icons are suddenly extreamly minimized
[09:53] <neverblue> hehe
[09:53] <gr2> shrimpy: by orbs, you mean the network signals on top?
[09:53] <karimfayez> hey every body... Egypt LOCO team is announcing their official start today...join us at #ubuntu-eg
[09:54] <neverblue> so henk the ubuntu install of apache/php has issues
[09:54] <Pelo> evo,  do you have ubuntu installed right now ?
[09:54] <neverblue> and i am trying to work around them
[09:54] <gr2> shrimpy: this network has a password, once I update the info, nothing happens
[09:54] <neverblue> henk, atm, my apache works fine
[09:54] <henk> @neverblue ok
[09:54] <_filippo_> !latex
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about latex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <neverblue> well, not 100%, but well enough
[09:54] <_filippo_> !tex
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <henk> @neverblue reinstall php5 ?
[09:54] <neverblue> now I am trying to enable .php support
[09:54] <AlberTUX> chiz: im on kubuntu
[09:54] <Shrimpy_> gr2: i want you to right click on your panel and click on add to panel..then scroll down to "system and Hardware" and add "network monitor"
[09:54] <nosbig> If anyone can help me with UBUNTU please send me a private message !!!
[09:54] <gr2> shrimpy: yep, added that as well already
[09:54] <ward_> how do i know what command a program is after i install it, please?
[09:55] <henk> @neverblue edit your apache2.conf to enable it
[09:55] <AlberTUX> seems that my network manager is automatically connecting to an AP
[09:55] <Pelo> _filippo_,  looking for a latex app ?   use menu > applicaison> add remove and search for latex
[09:55] <gr2> shrimpy: the output I get now is the two screens, with a triangle on bottom
[09:55] <gr2> shrimpy: (orange triangle)
[09:55] <AlberTUX> i can't seem to see from where
[09:55] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok click on proprties
[09:55] <neverblue> henk, so i added a few lines into apache2.conf:
[09:55] <|chiz|> AlberTUX I thought that was in a right click menu somewhere
[09:56] <Pelo> ward_,  usualy it's the name of the program ,  and if it has a gui a menu entry is usualy made
[09:56] <henk> @neverblue whooooooo COOL ;)
[09:56] <alexpe> Hello, how do you list all the files included in a package with apt commands?
[09:56] <Shrimpy_> gr2: or just click on the network manager
[09:56] <gr2> shrimpy: roger, the window name is Properties: eth1:avahi
[09:56] <neverblue> LoadModule php5_module        /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so
[09:56] <neverblue> AddHandler php5-script php
[09:56] <clever> alenax: apt-file show packagename
[09:56] <_filippo_> Pelo: i'm looking for information on the tetex obsolescence
[09:56] <gr2> snrimpy: ok there
[09:56] <thelostpatrol> henk, it didn't fix the problem
[09:56] <gr2> shrimpy: ok there
[09:56] <henk> @neverblue yeaaaaaaaaaa
[09:56] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok then try puttin in only    eth1
[09:56] <thelostpatrol> henk, but now i have two applet errors
[09:56] <Pelo> _filippo_,  google
[09:56] <ward_> Pelo, thanx i'll duoublecheck for the menu but i didnt find it
[09:56] <_filippo_> Pelo: i've heard that it's unmantained and i have to install texlive
[09:56] <henk> @neverblue error messages ?
[09:56] <neverblue> i had to hardcode in the location of the libphp5.so, as its not located in /modules
[09:56] <AlberTUX> |chiz|, right. not there. maybe some config file somewhere?
[09:56] <neverblue> as its not a dir, but a files
[09:56] <clever> alenax: youll need apt-file installed and updated too(apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update)
[09:56] <neverblue> file*
[09:56] <Pelo> ward_,  type the name of the prog in a terminal window
[09:57] <gr2> shrimpy: done. somehow a signal strength appeared. signals 0%
[09:57] <_filippo_> Pelo: i was just looking if it was a faq known by bots
[09:57] <neverblue> let me consult the logs
[09:57] <neverblue> sec
[09:57] <thelostpatrol> henk, OAFFID:GNOME_MixerApplet and OAFFID:Gnome_TrashApplet
[09:57] <henk> @neverblue np ;)
[09:57] <|chiz|> AlberTUX, no clue, good luck
[09:57] <karimfayez> Egypt LOCO team is announcing their official start today...join us at #ubuntu-eg
[09:57] <Shrimpy_> ok, now try to connect to that connection via the network manger
[09:57] <ward_> Pelo, its the compiz-manager, but i would like to know how to find out on my own too
[09:57] <henk> @thelostpatrol did you reinstall the gnome panel ?
[09:57] <thelostpatrol> henk, yes
[09:57] <dountby> alexpe: did you try dpkg-query -L ?
[09:57] <ward_> Pelo, i mean how to find out what the command is, because sometimes its not the name
[09:57] <riaal> its oftopic but anyone here know if it is possible to make 2 clacc c networks to one whit supernetting and then split it whit vlsm? sorry for offtopic
[09:57] <Pelo> ward_,   menu > system > prefs > 3d desktop
[09:58] <henk> @thelostpatrol when you start gnome you get this messages
[09:58] <thelostpatrol> henk, everything else works as usual
[09:58] <thelostpatrol> yes
[09:58] <graveson1> how can i write to a ntfs filesystem. i plugged in a usbdisk and i cannot write to it ?
[09:58] <henk> @thelostpatrol you have the shut down button
[09:58] <thelostpatrol> it asks if i want to delete the applets from my config
[09:58] <thelostpatrol> no
[09:58] <Doctordoog> I've been trying to install java 1.5, I've read all the threads on the boards and followed all the instructions but I think that it isn't working since sun.com has j2re-6.1 as opposed to j2re1.5, how should I remedy this?
[09:58] <gr2> shrimpy: what else should I do?
[09:58] <Pelo> !ntfs-3g > graveson1  check yoru pm windows for instructions
[09:58] <ward_> Pelo, 3ddesktop = not there
[09:59] <Pelo> ward_,  did you install the compiz manager ?
[09:59] <henk> @thelostpatrol ?
[09:59] <thelostpatrol> henk, i don't have a shut down button
[09:59] <thelostpatrol> henk, or restart
[09:59] <AlberTUX> |chiz|: thanks anyway
[09:59] <alexpe> dountby, thanks it works
[09:59] <thelostpatrol> henk, and now i have the two errors
[09:59] <Shrimpy_> gr2: i take it that did not connect. ok (just making sure it was somthing silly) you can try ndiswrapper.  (i'm going to searc to see if they have a package for you wireless card though)
[09:59] <BetaCookies> Hey, beryl is running, but it doesn't actually seem to be "running"
[09:59] <Pelo> ward_,  it  isnT' installed by default , you have to do it ,  search for compiz in synaptic
[10:00] <Pelo> BetaCookies, #beryl
[10:00] <alexpe> dountby, how do i list all the packages installed on my system?
[10:00] <henk> @thelostpatrol it should be under system at the gnome-panel
[10:00] <neverblue> henk:
[10:00] <neverblue> [Thu May 03 12:51:26 2007]  [notice]  Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations
[10:00] <tarzeau> alexpe: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[10:00] <neverblue> <IP_ADDRESS> - - [03/May/2007:12:59:01 -0700]  "GET /testphp.html HTTP/1.1" 304 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/<IP_ADDRESS> (Ubuntu-feisty)"
[10:00] <sNixx> hi again
[10:00] <henk> @neverblue ?
[10:00] <comrade`phil> wow, desktop effects must be REALLY experimental
[10:00] <neverblue> so the .html files are fine
[10:00] <gr2> shrimpy: no it didnt connect. now i will try ndiswrapper. what does that do?
[10:00] <ward_> Pelo, i'm looking for it
[10:00] <neverblue> but still not doing so hot with .php
[10:00] <sNixx> just a lil question, apparently i have restricted drivers running atm (nvidia)
[10:00] <gr2> shrimpy: should I install ndiswrapper
[10:01] <sNixx> i cannot remember who but someone was mentioning about drivers to me earlier
[10:01] <Shrimpy_> g2r: ndiswrapper is like liunx version of the device driver.
[10:01] <myr> im so glad my wireless worked out of the box
[10:01] <Pelo> comrade`phil, install the compiz manager you'll have a little more management options, or check in gconf-editor
[10:01] <alexpe> tarzeau, thanks
[10:01] <ward_> Pelo, you're right, i found it; i assumed it was installed be default
[10:01] <ward_> Pelo, thanx for your help
[10:01] <thelostpatrol> henk, now after what i just did i can't put the trash can on my bottom panel
[10:01] <psycose> i'm looking for help with bad sectors in my hard drive (laptop) here is my questions http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19016/ thanks
[10:01] <dountby> tarzeau: thanks - dodnt know that myself :-)
[10:01] <Pelo> ward_,  np
[10:01] <ninix> Hi
[10:01] <dountby> didnt
[10:02] <henk> @thelostpatrol please reinstall ou nme stopwihat-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[10:02] <ninix> anyone here use VirtualBox ? I use it with a OS Guest Windows..... and i want that windows can access to my local network. (i use NAT atm)
[10:02] <thelostpatrol> ?
[10:02] <Myrtti> psycose: if the disc is going bad, it's going bad.
[10:02] <Doctordoog> exit
[10:02] <Shrimpy_> g2r: ndiswrapper works pretty well with intel wireless cards.  either you can post something on the forums (including your wirless card name) and ask or i can give you the link of how to install ndiswrapper.
[10:02] <Pelo> henk,  by  typing the nicks like that they won't highlight if the person is using xchat
[10:03] <henk> @thelostpatrol please reinstall the ubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <psycose> Myrtti, well i would like a tools that identify bad sectors so that the FS do not use them any more
[10:03] <thelostpatrol> what's the command?
[10:03] <thelostpatrol> henk, what's the command?
[10:03] <henk> @thelostpatrol use apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <Myrtti> psycose: good luck, do you know how to get FS not to use them?
[10:04] <thelostpatrol> henk, invalid operation reinstall < --- message from terminal
[10:04] <Pelo> thelostpatrol, use synaptic
[10:04] <kane77> thelostpatrol, use aptitude instead of apt-get
[10:04] <alexpe> Hello, do you know another tool like calamaris to analyse proxy log files?
[10:05] <tarzeau> alexpe: webalizer ?
[10:05] <gr2> shrimpy:i installed ndiswrapper
[10:05] <henk> @thelostpatrol use apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <alexpe> tarzeau, let me check...
[10:05] <henk> @thelostpatrol use apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <psycose> Myrtti, well the tools just update a list of sectors to bann, them the FS read this list ... it's simple
[10:05] <Myrtti> psycose: name one for me?
[10:06] <Shrimpy_> g2r: ok now restart X
[10:06] <Shrimpy_> g2r : you can do this by pressing  ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:07] <qos> hey guys ... when i create a server-link in gnome (eg. to an ftp-server) the links are shown on the desktop and in the start-menu. is it possible to remove the links from the desktop but not from the start-menu?
[10:07] <sNixx> erm are these desktop effects different than beryl?
[10:07] <buk> whats the mostly used media player? :)
[10:07] <sNixx> appart from afaik i can use themes with beryl
[10:07] <psycose> Myrtti, well if i knew one , i'm afraid i 'll use it whitout coming on the irc ... i thought fsck.ext3 could do this work for me ...
[10:07] <Pelo> sNixx,  ask in #ubuntu-effects  they are better at this stuff
[10:07] <Myrtti> I doubt it to be honest
[10:07] <sNixx> ah ok thanks didnt know about that
[10:07] <roflcopter> so i upgraded to feisty...and beryl doesn't work anymore!
[10:08] <Pelo> buk,  totem is pre instlaled for video , rhythmbox for audio
[10:08] <thelostpatrol> kane77, i am installing ubuntu-desktop via synaptic now
[10:08] <qos> hey guys ... when i create a server-link in gnome (eg. to an ftp-server) the links are shown on the desktop and in the start-menu. is it possible to remove the links from the desktop but not from the start-menu?
[10:08] <steve__> nick keekles
[10:08] <steve__> wow
[10:08] <keekles> rofl
[10:08] <keekles> so
[10:09] <thelostpatrol> brb restart
[10:09] <keekles> anybody have problems with beryl and feisty?
[10:09] <deCon> yes
[10:09] <keekles> i just upgraded
[10:09] <keekles> and now beryl doesnt start
[10:09] <deCon> my video won't play...or it crashes the video
[10:09] <Myrtti> ok, I'm off to bed. It's officially late.
[10:09] <Pelo> qos,  try in  gconf-editor  under /apps/nautilus/desktop
[10:09] <deCon> you have to start it manually, then it will keep settings again
[10:09] <Hutch323> Does any one know how to upgrade 6.06 to 7.04? Do I just need the kernel and headers?
[10:09] <art_> what i makening wrong?? http://wklej.org/id/fd305ff381
[10:09] <gr2> shrimpy: i tried running the list command -l on ndiswrapper, but got no output
[10:09] <mazza558> decon, what format is this video?
[10:09] <buk> Pelo: I clicked an mp3 and totem opened ;^)
[10:09] <Pelo> keekles,  try asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[10:10] <psycose> Myrtti, just to let you know there are lots of proprietary tools that do this job
[10:10] <keekles> thanks
[10:10] <gr2> shrimpy: maybe I have no driver installed for it? but its weird, because i can read wireless signals
[10:10] <Pelo> !mp3 > buk  check pm window
[10:10] <deCon> mazza558, almost anything...youtube, or wmv...they all get messed up :(
[10:10] <qos> Pelo, thanks i will give it a try
[10:10] <mazza558> well, youtube videos are flash
[10:10] <mazza558> so i don't think that's the problem
[10:11] <alexpe> tarzeau, webaliwer is nice but i would like to graph my netcache log files per 5 minutes with distinction on http return codes...
[10:11] <deCon> mazza558, well flash works fine...except youtube, youtube is still funky
[10:11] <mazza558> have you got the restricted formats installed?
[10:11] <eck> Hutch323: you just need to update your sources.list and then do an update followed by dist-upgrade
[10:11] <deCon> mazza558, for some reason, youtube will download and start to play sometimes, othertimes not so well
[10:11] <Shrimpy_> g2r: yeahs thats odd. mmm well with ndiswrapper you have to load you wireless card also. look at their wiki for more info
[10:11] <deCon> mazza558, i'm in feisty, and i thought i had done that in edgy....but is there a way to check?
[10:12] <qos> Pelo, thanks that worked ... nice
[10:12] <mazza558> decon, let me find the link :)
[10:12] <deCon> ty
[10:12] <Th3Kymera> hi
[10:12] <javb> hi, i`m trying to use the PCMCIA card Sierra CDMA 3G SIERRA PC3200 ... cant find any info related to it.. any ideas around here?
[10:12] <alexpe> tarzeau, the perfect thing would be a script working with gnuplot but i can't find such thing and i am thinking about writing a small program to do thai
[10:12] <mazza558> decon, here we go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:13] <Hutch323> Thanks ECK I'll give it a try!
[10:13] <tarzeau> alexpe: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/gnuplot/ ?
[10:13] <DPi1> how do you do an apt-get for the url of a .bin file? (i'm new to linux)
[10:13] <Th3Kymera> some one have an HP dv2000??
[10:13] <DPi1> what's the command?
[10:13] <mazza558> decon, copy and paste that code into terminal and it'll install any codecs you don't have
[10:13] <wonderl00t> would anyone in here happen to know what command i can use to make crossover run an msi installer versus the regular exe
[10:13] <richee> Hi folks !
[10:14] <richee> Is there any way to recover deleted files in linux?
[10:14] <eck> DPi1: apt-get is for installing new packages from the repositories -- waht areyou tryin to do?
[10:14] <Shrimpy_> gr2: oh did you   type this in the terminal   "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[10:14] <chili555> DPi1 you are trying to retrieve the .bin from its url, or install or what??
[10:14] <eck> richee: what filesystem?
[10:14] <deCon> mazza558, i have the feeling it is a beryl problem, because there is a beryl bug that has some issues with playing videos...it makes them go blackish, wherever a window has covered them
[10:14] <DPi1> well i went to install electric sheep
[10:14] <richee> eck, ext3
[10:14] <eck> richee: no
[10:14] <DPi1> and it linked to the .deb but it said to use apt-get
[10:14] <richee> eck, what about other filesystems?
[10:14] <gr2> shrimpy: ok, i installed it, but i dont'know how install the right drive..
[10:15] <alexpe> tarzeau, thanks i am going to ask #gnuplot people
[10:15] <eck> richee: you can do it with ext2
[10:15] <clemare> What happend with PowerPC version? somebody?
[10:15] <buk> !help
[10:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:15] <richee> eck, what is the command on ext2?
[10:15] <eck> richee: jfs too, i think
[10:15] <pukeko> can i run ubuntu on a sparcstation 5 ?
[10:15] <richee> eck, k
[10:15] <tarzeau> pukeko: you can run debian on it! or openstep!
[10:15] <Zelda> hello
[10:15] <tarzeau> pukeko: or netbsd
[10:15] <gr2> shrimpy: modprobe didnt give me any output
[10:15] <chili555> DPi1 now i'm confused, a .deb or a .bin?
[10:15] <Zelda> How do I add a theme to ubuntu
[10:15] <Zelda> ?
[10:16] <eck> richee: just search for 'ext2 recover' or something like that on google, but it will not work on an ext3 FS
[10:16] <Shrimpy_> g2r: as in nothing happend. or is said error no output
[10:16] <gr2> shrimpy: nothing happened
[10:16] <petr4> hello. I just updated synaptic (via security updates) for ubuntu 6.10 and it disabled my wallpaper. Should I report it somewhere? (launchpad?)
[10:16] <gr2> shrimpy: sorry should have specified
[10:16] <eck> !ppc > clemare
[10:16] <Zelda> !themes
[10:16] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:17] <Zelda> !help themes
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help themes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok thats good. when you type somthing on the command line and you get no return. then you can assume that the action you typed went through
[10:17] <gr2> shrimpy: if I try: modprobe ndiswrapper -l   I get: /lib/modules/........
[10:17] <pukeko> tarzeau: so no to ubuntu then ? i already have debian on it
[10:17] <tarzeau> pukeko: gnome? how much memory does it have?
[10:17] <deCon> mazza558, now ill check by watching youtube
[10:17] <tarzeau> pukeko: forget gnome on a sparc...
[10:17] <Th3Kymera> some one have a notebook hp DV2000??
[10:18] <L> ciao
[10:18] <eck> tarzeau: what do you think sun uses?
[10:18] <janusz> gg
[10:18] <tarzeau> pukeko: you know sparc is a great computer. but gnome... gnome is not great software
[10:18] <pukeko> tarzeau: no gui necessary..
[10:18] <mazza558> decon: tell me if it works :)
[10:18] <tarzeau> eck: sun are retards
[10:18] <Hutch323> Zelda - Just go to system/preferences/themes and change to whatever you like.
[10:18] <L> #virtual.cr3w
[10:18] <tarzeau> eck: they've dumped objective-c for java. they hold fix on solaris. and they dumped lighthouse design applications, instead they promoted staroffice/openoffice
[10:18] <tarzeau> eck: they are the really retards!
[10:19] <L> on irc. virutal-irc . org
[10:19] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok mmm try restarting X one more time.
[10:19] <L> join #virtual.cr3w
[10:19] <eck> tarzeau: maybe so, but there is no problem running gnome on a sparc
[10:19] <ruda> where in the word gnome had use objective c?
[10:19] <ruda> world
[10:19] <tarzeau> eck: not if it has only 64mb or less memory
[10:20] <deCon> mazza558, nope...still the same
[10:20] <Th3Kymera> how can I give more memory to my graphics card??'
[10:20] <ruda> Gnome is completely in C
[10:20] <tarzeau> ruda: nobody claimed so, but look at the original goal and what the abbreviation gnome means
[10:20] <gr2> shrimpy: ok be right back
[10:20] <Th3Kymera> it's go 6150 nvidia
[10:20] <deCon> mazza558, and it starts playing...but no audio, and it could be conflicting with amaroK...i dont know
[10:20] <tarzeau> ruda: and that's the problem :)
[10:20] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok
[10:20] <eck> tarzeau: ugh, you can't really run any WM with that much memory any more
[10:20] <ruda> gnome is for CORBA
[10:21] <ruda> GNUStep uses Objective C
[10:21] <ferret> eck: There are more and better low-resource wmsnow than there were 5 years ago.
[10:21] <ruda> like Mac OSX's COCOA
[10:21] <tarzeau> eck: crap
[10:21] <mazza558> decon: ah, i think i know what it could be... give me a sec
[10:21] <tarzeau> eck: look at openstep, runs perfect w/ 8mb, look at www.linuks.mine.nu/screenshots/amiwm.png 48mb sparc classic
[10:21] <jovan> resolution of 1440x900 makes screen buggy, is there a fix for this?
[10:21] <eck> ferret: yeah, but X11 has gottenbiger
[10:21] <tatters> I messed up my fstab file, is there a way to reset it back to default?
[10:21] <deCon> ugh, i'm almost ready to switch back to windows...stupid beryl must be causing tons of issues, cuz sound/video/printing all have issues...booo, and i thought i was moving up
[10:22] <SnapLinux> why is the windows google earth so much more detailed than what im getting on linux version?
[10:22] <deCon> mazza558, thanks!
[10:22] <gr2> shrimpy: ok back
[10:22] <Sub> deCon, whats wrong with running linux without beryl>?
[10:22] <beland> hey all
[10:22] <ruda> FSF never gives importance to GNUStep
[10:22] <Sub> seems crazy to go back because eye candy doesnt work.
[10:22] <gr2> shrimpy: phone call, 3 minutes, wont take long
[10:22] <Shrimpy_> gr2: welcom
[10:22] <eck> same deal, i hope i you're running xfree86 if you have that much ram
[10:22] <Zelda> nevermind I got it
[10:22] <deCon> Sub, nothing, it just makes things easier to organize, and prettier
[10:22] <beland> i'm not able to recieve anything by dcc of irc, what should I do to fix that ?
[10:22] <Shrimpy_> gr2: any luck this time?
[10:22] <Sub> SnapLinux, check your preferences, - you might be on low textures.
[10:22] <tarzeau> ruda: on the other hand GNUstep never gave importance to GNU. nobody cares about FSF do we?
[10:22] <ruda> they supported Gnome against KDE , in the time Qt was proprietary
[10:22] <hwMoD|buntu> Hi all, I have a problem with sound recording - ubuntu records the wave digital output, instead of the microhpne, and I cannot make it change - could anyone give me any advices or pointers?
[10:23] <eck> ruda: gnome is not a FSF project
[10:23] <hwMoD|buntu> I can only transmit the computer's sounds through skype, not fun
[10:23] <SnapLinux> i set to highest and slowest but still crappy i think they shafting linux users
[10:23] <Wicks> im booting from a feisty live cd... and its asking for usename and password. any ideas?
[10:23] <Sub> hwMoD|buntu, goto system-prefs-sound - then "sound capture device" - change that to what you need
[10:23] <mazza558> decon: sudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[10:23] <Flannel> Wicks: are you booting a real Feisty? or some other unofficial flavor?
[10:23] <ruda> eck: it's not a question of being hosted
[10:24] <mazza558> then change: FIREFOX_DSP="none" to IREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[10:24] <ruda> eck: FSF/GNU enforces gnome
[10:24] <Wicks> Flannel : real from the canonical mirror lol
[10:24] <mazza558> that should fix your sound problem at least
[10:24] <SnapLinux> Wicks try guest/guest
[10:24] <hwMoD|buntu> sub - thanks!
[10:24] <deCon> mazza558, whats the issue?
[10:24] <gekkoo> is it possible to change the resolution of the ttX terminals?
[10:24] <eck> ruda: they recommend gnome, but gnome is completely independent
[10:24] <gr2> shrimpy: no luck
[10:24] <mat1980> wiks, are you installing it?
[10:24] <tarzeau> gekkoo: x or not?
[10:24] <deCon> mazza558, i notice amarok on GNOME/Beryl is bitchy...takes some CPU and sometimes audio quits out..
[10:24] <Wicks> SnapLinux: authentication failed
[10:24] <mazza558> decon: I think the sound problem was to do with the codec firefox was using
[10:24] <Flannel> Wicks: did you verify the md5 of the ISO?  and check the CD for defects?
[10:25] <hwMoD|buntu> sub - any idea where that is in xubuntu?
[10:25] <gekkoo> tarzeau: i mean the terminals which are accesible through ctrl+alt+F1-6
[10:25] <XCute4God> Im using ubuntu 7.04, everything is working in my hp dv6058cl fine with noapic and a lot of other kernel parameters, but my "ONDEMAND" power scheme only works in 1600 Mhz, not throttling to 800mhz... anyone can help me please? :)
[10:25] <tarzeau> gekkoo: try fbset or svgatextmode
[10:25] <SnapLinux> tru ubuntu / ubuntu
[10:25] <tarzeau> gekkoo: yes they can be resized
[10:25] <ruda> eck: they recommended gnome in the time gnome was a completely crap
[10:25] <Wicks> prolly the disk
[10:25] <Sub> hwMoD|buntu, no idea sorry - try asking in #xubuntu
[10:25] <tarzeau> ruda: did that ever change? gnome is no more complete crap?
[10:25] <ruda> eck: and GNUStep was something or could be better
[10:25] <eck> ruda: that was many years ago ;-)
[10:25] <mazza558> decon: beryl is still in beta. try turning off some of the plugins like "blur"
[10:25] <Flannel> Wicks: please do so.  Apparently some people (with corrupt disks) sometimes are asked for passwords.
[10:25] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know what is the directory where i should unpack .tar.gz files to? do i just put the folder in '/usr/lib'?
[10:25] <gr2> shrimpy: still get 0%. btw it reads the line when I configure (80% signal) but on the network status it gives me 0%
[10:25] <deCon> mazza558, ok... and beryl...kill blur?
[10:25] <ruda> eck: yes, I know... That's why we have Gnome and KDE... two bizarre desktops
[10:25] <SnapLinux> i forget what my live cd came up with  but user and pas were the same'
[10:26] <tarzeau> ruda, eck we also have http://livecd.gnustep.org/
[10:26] <hyapadi> hi, how to check bad sector in linux?
[10:26] <ruda> tarzeau: I know.. i know
[10:26] <deCon> mazza558, blur isn't on
[10:26] <mazza558> decon: turn off any plugins you can find that you don't want
[10:26] <gr2> shrimpy: maybe we should install the windows drivers?
[10:26] <mazza558> decon: what plugins do you have on?
[10:26] <thelostpatrol> help, i still don't have shutdown / restart buttons
[10:26] <SnapLinux> anyone using the mint distro of kbuntu?
[10:26] <Shrimpy_> gr2: i'm sure the window drive will not support liunx.
[10:27] <gr2> shrimpy: right, i should let my mind not speak freely.
[10:27] <priich> Umm so i did some housecleaning and got rid of aptitude. It took these packages with it:  upstart-compat-sysv startup-tasks system-services upstart-logd upstart.    Are those as important as they sound or can i restart without worrying ?
[10:27] <deCon> mazza558, i just turned off "window decoration" and the top bar of all windows disappeared, but i can still grab the invisible area
[10:27] <Shrimpy_> gr2: haha
[10:27] <leku> how do I switch my default window manager and login manager from gdm/gnome to enlightenment?
[10:27] <ruda> tarzeau: I'm aware of GNUStep; i use to used in a few years ago, with Window Maker. but it's like to use something from the 90's (in my point of view)
[10:27] <Flannel> priich: why'd you get rid of aptitude?
[10:27] <Jack31> has anyone gotten timidity working???????
[10:27] <eck> priich: you definitely want those packages
[10:27] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok let me check into this can you list your card again?
[10:27] <thelostpatrol> help, i still don't have shutdown / restart buttons
[10:27] <priich> hehe i figured as much. Thanks for confirmation.
[10:28] <mazza558> decon: window decoration uses the emerald themes. It is important to keep that on if you want to use the beryl themes
[10:28] <bartzitz> i have qemu from binary package (works), and installed kqemu from source package with current kernel headers. kqemu module is loaded but qemu says it's not, how can i fix it?
[10:28] <tarzeau> ruda: you're talking about look. i'm talking about feel
[10:28] <XCute4God> Im using ubuntu 7.04, everything is working in my hp dv6058cl fine with noapic and a lot of other kernel parameters, but my "ONDEMAND" power scheme only works in 1600 Mhz, not throttling to 800mhz... anyone can help me please? :)
[10:28] <gr2> shrimpy: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[10:28] <deCon> mazza558, fading, 3d effects, wobbly windows, window decoration, desktop cube...but none of these are "plugins" right...
[10:28] <mjunx> hey, why can't I join #ubuntu-devel? nothing happens...
[10:28] <Phrozen_One[Away> how can I add a ddns entry in the /etc/hosts file, to clarify, instead of an ip addresses corresponding to a hostname, it will be a hostname to hostname entry
[10:28] <jago25> knetworkmanager isn't showing wireless networks anymore :/
[10:28] <mjunx> hey, I've got one of those, gr2
[10:28] <deroxx> I need help configuring wlan for my laptop. anyone who can help me?
[10:28] <ruda> tarzeau: does gnustep have a native web browser?
[10:28] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok give me five mins and i'll come back with something! (hopefully)
[10:28] <mazza558> decon: they an be referred to as plugins :)
[10:28] <tarzeau> ruda: no it doesn't
[10:29] <deCon> mazza558, under extras...i just use the Water effect (thought not often, but i have it on to allow it) , window previews, and dbus...thats it
[10:29] <tarzeau> ruda: ask that in #gnustep
[10:29] <ruda> tarzeau: I mean, if I want to use gnome, i expect to use tools from that environment, I never do kde apps
[10:29] <mazza558> decon: do you have animations on?
[10:29] <gr2> shrimpy: I will wait :-) and see if i can find anything
[10:29] <tarzeau> ruda: same here
[10:29] <gr2> junx: you are on an intel ??
[10:29] <tarzeau> ruda: i also love consistency
[10:29] <deCon> mazza558, yes
[10:29] <ruda> tarzeau: I really like GNUSTEP... They do a nice peace of work
[10:29] <tarzeau> ruda: not even k3b? i mean i hate gnome file dialogs
[10:29] <awpti> Anyone have any experience with prboom?  (doom port)
[10:29] <mazza558> decon: what animations are you using?
[10:29] <erstazi> !gwenview
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwenview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <ruda> not even k3b, too much buttons
[10:30] <eck> tarzeau: you should try gnomebaker
[10:30] <gr2> junx: because I cant get it to connect to my wireless network
[10:30] <thelostpatrol> help, i still don't have shutdown / restart buttons
[10:30] <tarzeau> ruda: if you ever used the original, OPENSTEP, see http://gnu.ethz.ch/www.levenez.com/ thats was even far more kickass
[10:30] <mjunx> gr2, yeah, I have the same card
[10:30] <deCon> mazza558, dream and beam up...and fire for closing windowx
[10:30] <tarzeau> eck: i did, and i didn't like it
[10:30] <bartzitz> i have qemu from binary package (works), and installed kqemu from source package with current kernel headers. kqemu module is loaded but qemu says it's not, how can i fix it?
[10:30] <ruda> tarzeau: cool pix
[10:30] <gr2> junx: and shrimpy is trying to help me. does it work on your ubuntu 7.04?
[10:30] <mjunx> gr2, yeah, it did, but now I'm testing gutsy (7.10) ;p
[10:31] <jscheel> Hello! I've mounted an offsite drive through sshfs, and am using gedit to modify files on the drive. Everything has worked fine for the past week, but now, I get a permissions error when trying to save. When I look in the file's directory, there is a copy of the file ending with a '~'. I have to delete this file to save my actual file in gedit. Any ideas on what's going on?
[10:31] <mazza558> decon: those are some of beryl's most CPU-intensive features (apart from blur). it might be a good idea to change them to "fade"
[10:31] <gr2> junx: how did you get it to work? :-)
[10:31] <mjunx> gr2, quick diagnostic that you can run from a terminal: lsmod | grep ipw2200
[10:31] <tarzeau> eck, ruda on linux systems i do most things in the console (screen, ocp, zsh, minicom, awk, irssi, nethack, bc, tcc, whatever)
[10:31] <theconartist> anyone know how to run an app in its own x session?
[10:31] <priich> Well it seems they weren't removed but will be if i do an autoremove. Is there a way to move them off the "autoremove" list ?
[10:31] <mjunx> gr2, worked out of the box :)
[10:31] <gr2> junx: ok let me try
[10:31] <tarzeau> theconartist: Xnest ?
[10:31] <steve__> lo
[10:31] <deCon> mazza558, i have a dual core AMD, my computer can handle the loads i believe, i just think its a beryl bug?
[10:31] <gr2> junx: btw it works on other connections. i just connected to a pirate non protected wireless connection and it worked
[10:31] <mc__> tarzeau: we're a dieing race
[10:32] <tarzeau> mc__: oh and mc :)
[10:32] <mat1980> Xcute4God, what's the output of cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies ?
[10:32] <mazza558> decon: it depends on your graphics card more than anything.
[10:32] <tarzeau> mc__: no way! as long as the gui counterparts are horrible way back
[10:32] <mjunx> gr2, are you trying to connect to an encrypted network?
[10:32] <steve__> ive just installed ubuntu (all good) however my refresh rates are wrong, its limited to either 50 or 55, it should be 75 (lcd) ,
[10:32] <eck> tarzeau: same, but a pretty DE is still nice
[10:32] <tarzeau> mc__: oh and let's not forget emacs :)
[10:32] <gr2> junx: yes.  I did some network and browser tweaks similar to fasterfox but i used it, as well as swiftfox, and the actual conf type tweaking...i hope this isn't why
[10:33] <mjunx> gr2, I haven't tried connecting to one, but how are you attempting to connect to it? via network manager?
[10:33] <mc__> tarzeau: well GUI's can never beat CUI's in everything
[10:33] <deCon> mazza558, nvidia 7800gt extreme
[10:33] <asc> I reinstalled Amarok (apt-get remove --purge, rm-rf ~/.kde, apt-get install amarok) because it was behaving strangely.  Now, it freezes immediately after startup with a spinning cursor and the window doesn't update.  Anybody know what this is?
[10:33] <mjunx> mc__, CLI*
[10:33] <mc__> tarzeau: at least not in flexibility
[10:33] <deCon> mazza558, i believe they worked fine under edgy...
[10:33] <gr2> junx: via the default network thing on the bottom
[10:33] <mc__> mjunx: yes,typo
[10:33] <hbaigu> bartzitz: did you do all of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:33] <mjunx> gr2, alright, then here's some fun terminal stuff to try
[10:33] <gartt> I installed the system by resizing the existing partitions and installing on the freed up space.  Is there any way, after doing this to get rid of the old unused partition and free up the whole disk for this OS without reinstalling?
[10:33] <mazza558> decon: the beryl problems appears to be a bug.
[10:33] <Kazol> how do I upgrade to the newest Firefox version in Dapper?
[10:33] <mjunx> gr2, iwconfig
[10:33] <gr2> shrimpy: I just found out that my connection works on non protected networks
[10:33] <Phrozen_One[Away> how can I add a ddns entry in the /etc/hosts file, to clarify, instead of an ip addresses corresponding to a hostname, it will be a hostname to hostname entry
[10:33] <deCon> asc, i have some amarok issues as well, i'm wondering if it is just for kde or something
[10:33] <gr2> junx: ok let me try
[10:33] <bartzitz> hbaigu: let me check
[10:34] <gartt> I know it's kinda a basic question...
[10:34] <mazza558> decon: about the video, is this embedded, and is it using the totem player?
[10:34] <mjunx> gr2, see if it tries to set the right settings for your wireless
[10:34] <FurryNemesis> hi all
[10:34] <deCon> mazza558, what about using Compiz? it is an option ... its embedded video
[10:34] <eck> Phrozen_One[Away: you can't
[10:34] <asc> deCon: If it helps at all, I don't have KDE installed, just the parts that are necessary for Amarok
[10:34] <Kazol> How do I upgrade Firefox? The one in synaptec is too old.
[10:34] <FurryNemesis> is anyone using the new gspca driver for their webcam? Need a little help compiling if you've got the time...
[10:34] <gr2> junx: hmm let me give you the output
[10:34] <mazza558> decon: yeah, compiz should be a lot less buggy for the time being.
[10:34] <raf256> hi
[10:34] <Kazol> The new Firefox version is a tar.gz file. How do I install it?
[10:34] <Flannel> Kazol: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:35] <theconartist> tarzeau, how do i get an app to run under the xnest display it if it doesnt have it's own -display option?
[10:35] <mjunx> gr2, alrighty
[10:35] <mazza558> decon: could i have a look at the page you're trying to get to play, to see if it's just a problem with the site?
[10:35] <deCon> asc, i have no idea sorry, i was just wondering if ti was possible that it behaves strange because of desktop enviroment, whether is kde or beryl issue...you don't have beryl do you?
[10:35] <gr2> junx, its pretty long ill paste it in private window
[10:35] <mjunx> Flannel, just unarchive it and run the "firefox" executable inside it
[10:35] <jscheel> any ideas on the sshfs / gedit problem?
[10:35] <eck> Phrozen_One[Away: closest you can get is to run a local bind server, or something along those lines
[10:35] <XCute4God> mat1980: 1600000 800000
[10:35] <tarzeau> theconartist: haha, i also love X
[10:35] <asc> deCon: Nope, I guess it's probably unrelated
[10:35] <Kazol> Flannel: dapper
[10:35] <deCon> mazza558, its every video i try to play, regardless of webpage...some dont play at all and just appear black (but its always black where another window had covered it
[10:35] <deCon> asc, probably an amaroK issue
[10:36] <awpti> This prboom install keeps locking my laptop up <video, anyway>.  go to fire the gun and boom..freeze.
[10:36] <Flannel> Kazol: why don't you upgrade?  I imagine, if you're lamenting the old version of FF, you're probably going to enjoy the new versions of everything else as well
[10:36] <Kazol> Flannel: To edgy?
[10:36] <BoneE> is there a way to run ubuntu on USB drive
[10:36] <asc> !slap amarok
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap amarok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <Phrozen_One[Away> eck, the overhead on that would be too high, an alias will be just as good
[10:36] <mazza558> decon: try using compiz and see if this solves it
[10:36] <gr2> junx: ok let me post it here
[10:36] <Flannel> Kazol: sure, or all the way to feisty if you'd like (through edgy though, so ... upgrade to edgy first, then see if you want feisty)
[10:36] <Shrimpy_> gr2: try and type this in   "lsmod | grep ipw"
[10:37] <Kazol> Flannel: I don't want to lose my settings.
[10:37] <eck> Phrozen_One[Away: well afaik you cannot do it without running your own dns server
[10:37] <deCon> mazza558, the problem i have with compiz (the ONLY problem...cept i haven't checked the bugs i've been having in compiz)...is that the themes don't work for it...so i end up having no top bar with the close window buttons etc
[10:37] <mjunx> Shrimpy_, we tried that I believe
[10:37] <gr2> junx: eth1      unassociated  ESSID:"DB"
[10:37] <gr2>           Mode:Managed  Channel=0  Access Point: Not-Associated
[10:37] <gr2>           Bit Rate:0 kb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   Sensitivity=8/0
[10:37] <gr2>           Retry limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[10:37] <gr2>           Power Management:off
[10:37] <gr2>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[10:37] <gr2>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[10:37] <bartzitz> hbaigu: does it matter if i created an image with kqemu disabled before?
[10:37] <gr2>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[10:37] <FurryNemesis> BoneE, yes, install it to a USB drive if you've got one big enough (2-4 gig should do) then pray that the comp you want it on can boot USB from BIOS
[10:37] <gr2> shrimpy: ok, 1 sec
[10:37] <mjunx> aiee, !pastebin
[10:37] <Flannel> !paste | gr2
[10:37] <ubotu> gr2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <Kazol> Flannel: How is Feisty better anyway?
[10:37] <Flannel> Kazol: Upgrading won't make you lose your settings.
[10:37] <deCon> !pastebin > gr2
[10:37] <mjunx> gr2, it doesn't even associate itself with the accesspoint apparently
[10:37] <Flannel> Kazol: They're just newer.  Well, and Feisty has a bunch of new features
[10:37] <Kazol> Flannel: So I could directly upgrade Dapper to Feisty?
[10:37] <mazza558> decon: right click on the beryl icon and change the window decorator to GTK
[10:37] <FurryNemesis> BoneE, but make sure it;s ext3 formatted first
[10:37] <Shrimpy_> mjunx: ok :)
[10:38] <mazza558> decon: then change to compiz
[10:38] <Flannel> Kazol: no.  You'd upgrade Dapper to Edgy, then Edgy to Feisty.
[10:38] <deCon> mazza558, ewwwwwww, soooo....plain. *vomit*
[10:38] <Flannel> Kazol: http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/releasenotes/610  and http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/releasenotes/704
[10:38] <Kazol> Flannel: And I won't lose my settings (such as background, panels), programs, desklets?
[10:38] <deCon> mazza558, and in compiz, i can't use mouse wheel to rotate my workspaces
[10:38] <mjunx> gr2, you can try changing its AP ESSID (router name) to see if that works via this command: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "Router Name"
[10:38] <awpti>  i can't think about what else to install on this laptop.
[10:38] <Flannel> Kazol: that's correct.  It's an upgrade.  Have you used any third party repositories?  or anything like automatix?
[10:38] <gr2> junx, shrimpy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19026/
[10:38] <deCon> mazza558, OR any beryl features for that matter
[10:39] <mazza558> decon: does this at least solve your problem with the web pages?
[10:39] <awpti> got gkrellm.. xchat..
[10:39] <bartzitz> hbaigu: does it matter if i created an image with kqemu disabled before?
[10:39] <mjunx> gr2, if that solves the problem, then the problem must be a bug with the NetworkManager program
[10:39] <thelostpatrol> help, i still don't have shutdown / restart buttons
[10:39] <deCon> mazza558, ill check
[10:39] <gr2> junx: what should I change the name to?
[10:39] <thelostpatrol> i've been asking for hours now
[10:39] <thelostpatrol> :<
[10:39] <hbaigu> bartzitz: it should not matter, is qemu saying that couldn't blah /dev/kqemu
[10:39] <Flannel> !repeat | thelostpatrol
[10:39] <ubotu> thelostpatrol: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:39] <dountby__> doesnt anyone know how to reconstruct my desktop-icons?
[10:39] <bob535> mkay, having a problem upgrading from edgy to fiesty, non-net connected computer using the DVD. It still tries to connect to the internet to upgrade and fails the upgrade when it does this
[10:39] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know what is the directory where i should unpack .tar.gz files to? do i just put the folder in '/usr/lib'?
[10:39] <compengi> i got 3 users connected to my pc which is me my self, is there a way to more about those users?
[10:39] <Kazol> Flannel: I only use gkrellm, gkdesklets, and some other small programs (that I don't care about). Would I have to reinstall my wifi and nvidia drivers?
[10:39] <bartzitz> hbaigu: Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated
[10:39] <mjunx> gr2, the name of your router
[10:39] <tarzeau> Tarkus: /usr/lib is very bad
[10:39] <Neil-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/110126 hey guys
[10:39] <Neil-> someone else has confirmed my bug - shall i change its status to confirmed?
[10:39] <gr2> shrimpy: is that what you expected?
[10:39] <tarzeau> Tarkus: put it in ~/src or /usr/src
[10:40] <bartzitz> hbaigu: lsmod | grep emu: kqemu                 124580  0
[10:40] <Flannel> Kazol: no.  They'll upgrade too.  Er, you used package manager to install them, right?  not compiling?
[10:40] <Shrimpy_> gr2: yeah
[10:40] <eck> Tarkus: you should try to keep thing in your home directory as much as possible
[10:40] <kira_> hi all! Somebody maybe have the same trouble like me with firefox2.0 and Ubuntu 7.04 ? Firefox crash very often...
[10:40] <bXi> is it correct that the ubuntu kernel+initrd are only 10mb together?
[10:40] <spookcomix> Good afternoon ladies and gents.  "Quick question:"  I've got Kubuntu on my wife's laptop.  Even running Edgy, it never would display the boot-up "splash screen" while Kubuntu is loading.  It just goes black.  After it boots, it shows the login screen just fine, and there are no other errors that I can tell.  I just upgraded it to Feisty with the exact same issue.  Any thoughts?
[10:40] <compengi> kira_, nope
[10:40] <hbaigu> bartzitz: yes, see the permissions 'ls -l /dev/kqemu'
[10:40] <ussjoin> Ubuntu 7.04 - I can't get the computer to recognize that my DVDRW drive exists. There's no entry for it at all in /dev, and no messages about it that I see in dmesg. Any thoughts as to how to debug?
[10:40] <compengi> kira_, firefox never crashed with me
[10:40] <Shrimpy_> gr2: modprobe ipw2200
[10:40] <Kazol> Flannel: I'm mainly concerned about wifi drivers. I used some kind of network manager applet instead of ndiswrapper. I'm too much of a newbie to compile programs. I use apt-get.
[10:41] <Flannel> bXi: yeah.  Something like that.  But you'll have a few at a time.  So /boot should be a smidge more.
[10:41] <deCon> mazza558, no audio still....its wierd, as if my sound trades off if i have amarok open...amarok keeps sound all to itself or something, i've had some issues in the past with amaroK randomly saying some xine error and then nothing will work until i restart x
[10:41] <bartzitz> hbaigu: crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 62 2007-05-03 23:36 /dev/kqemu
[10:41] <Tarkus> eck: its in my home directory right now, but since all my other program files are in /usr/lib im wondering why this program shouldnt be..
[10:41] <bartzitz> hbaigu: i guess i should change the group to kqemu?
[10:41] <eck> Tarkus: are you compiling it?
[10:41] <Flannel> Kazol: Good.  Then you won't have any issues upgrading.  And, Feisty has a new network manager thing, although, I don't know much about it.
[10:41] <mjunx> bartzitz, you gotta either run qemu as root (bad idea) or chown root:adm /dev/kqemu
[10:41] <mazza558> decon: i have an idea about the sound issue... go to system, preferences, sound
[10:41] <gr2> shrimpy: the command modprobe went through
[10:41] <joeExample2> hi all
[10:41] <mjunx> gr2, does that fix it?
[10:41] <jjido> Where is the config for the startup items? I need to stop Update Notifier from loading when I log in
[10:42] <jshewey> So.. I installed beryl, but when I run beryl-manager, it is trying to use aiglx instead of xgl
[10:42] <joeExample2> anybody know how to get ubuntu to recognize 4-way scrolling?
[10:42] <ussjoin> Kazol: The network manager in Feisty rocks-- I highly recommend it.
[10:42] <bob535> mkay, having a problem upgrading from edgy to fiesty, non-net connected computer using the DVD. It still tries to connect to the internet to upgrade and fails the upgrade when it does this - please private message me if you can help
[10:42] <hbaigu> bartzitz: i also installed kqemu today, and i got the same thing,  do what mjunx said
[10:42] <mazza558> decon: then see if you can change the sound device to be different for the music as opposed to the general system sounds
[10:42] <joeExample2> My company gave me a M$ mouse which has it
[10:42] <eck> Tarkus: if so, you run the configure script with --prefix=/usr and build it in your home directory, and then when you make install it will put the files into /usr
[10:42] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok that means that ubuntu know's your wifi card. and it's loading. i just don't know why it does not want to connect.
[10:42] <ussjoin> Kazol: And in general my experience with wifi under Feisty (I use ipw3945) has been more positive than ever before.
[10:42] <variant> jshewey: so?
[10:42] <bartzitz> hbaigu: crw-rw---- 1 root kqemu 10, 62 2007-05-03 23:36 /dev/kqemu
[10:42] <Tarkus> eck: i dont know. im new to linux so i dont understand much, but its 'songbird' and when i unpack it there is an executable file inside, along with many other files. and when i run the executable the program runs fine. (i didnt install it, just unpacked).
[10:42] <bartzitz> hbaigu: i've adde the kqemu like in the ubuntu artice
[10:42] <mjunx> bartzitz, are you in the kqemu group then?
[10:42] <Kazol> Flannel: The applet I'm concerned about is called "NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2." It's the only thing that's keeping my wifi working. I didn't use ndiswrapper.
[10:42] <compengi> LjL, i got 3 users of user compengi running on my pc, and i have 1 terminal only opened.. can i check from where is the other user?
[10:42] <bartzitz> mjunx: yes
[10:42] <gr2> junx: no it did not work
[10:42] <mjunx> bartzitz, then you're set
[10:43] <jshewey> JoeExample2: You need to set horizscrolldelta and vertscrolldelta options in your xorg.conf file
[10:43] <eck> Tarkus: i would personally recomemend unpacking it into a prefix in your home directory and adding that to your path
[10:43] <deCon> mazza558, k... btw...video stopped, i'm going to try GNOME and see if it works...it may be an issue with my network tweaks that i did? I dont know...i ran some different websites optimization configs and everything is fast as hell....probably unrelated, but maybe the servers are nerfing me because i'm network overclocked
[10:43] <ussjoin> Kazol: The new netmanager should be better than that, even.
[10:43] <Braddf0rd> Does anyone know where I can find a list of IRC channels for Ubuntu?
[10:43] <Kazol> ussjoin: I had to use "NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2" instead of ndiswrapper to get my Belkin wifi to work.
[10:43] <mjunx> gr2, does "lsmod | grep ipw2200" show anything?
[10:43] <bartzitz> mjunx: well, the same problem
[10:43] <hbaigu> bartzitz: but do the user is also in kqemu group
[10:43] <gr2> shrimpy: the wireless card works on Unencrympted networks
[10:43] <mjunx> bartzitz, if you _just_ added yourself to that group, you gotta log out and back in
[10:43] <jshewey> variant: So I have an ati card and it won't work with aiglx without going to the buggy open source driver.
[10:43] <gr2> shrimpy: i found out 5 min ago, connected to unprotected wireless network
[10:43] <ussjoin> Kazol: I understand. Ndiswrapper is only a stopgap-- and not using it is therefore good as it makes your upgrade easier, not harder.
[10:43] <gr2> junx: one sec let me paste it
[10:43] <mazza558> decon: I now have truely no idea about your sound problem.
[10:43] <Flannel> Kazol: is that a part of gdesklets? or what?  Sorry, But... if you installed it via apt-get, it'll upgrade fine.
[10:43] <eck> Tarkus: especially because a binary program like that is going to be messy to remove, putting it in your home directory will make things easy foryou and ensure that it doesn't overwrite any system files
[10:43] <bartzitz> mjunx: will try now
[10:43] <variant> jshewey: which card exactly?
[10:43] <grungehead> hello. i have an usb-pendrive with an ext3 partition. in /etc/fstab i added the options "errors=remount-ro,nosuid,noexec,users,user,data=ordered", but i don't have write acces as a normal user. i don't want to bind it to a single user, so how can i set writepermissions for all users?
[10:44] <alfplayer> how do i scale the vncviewer window?
[10:44] <Shrimpy_> gr2: so it deos connect, just having problems with your secure network?
[10:44] <mjunx> Shrimpy_, sounds like the wep thing
[10:44] <ompaul> compengi, do a who<< or w<< in a termial also do a last<<
[10:44] <ussjoin> alfplayer: It's ordinarily fixed to the resolution your server is sending out, e.g., 'you can't."
[10:44] <variant> grungehead: set the permissions on the files on the partition (ext supports permissions)
[10:44] <Kazol> ussjoin: I'll try installing Edgy, then Feisty later today. I'm looking forward for it. I hope my wifi works!
[10:44] <gr2> junx: shrmipy already asked before: heres the post i think: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19026/
[10:44] <neverblue> how can i entirely remove apache2?
[10:44] <Braddf0rd> I'm looking for a list of Ubuntu IRC channels to get specific help on certain issues, can someone help me find a list of channels?
[10:44] <deCon> mazza558, any ideas which to use? ...any of them? thanks for all the effort :(...it could be amaroK?
[10:44] <Tarkus> eck: oh, i though all i do to remove it is delete the folder and its gone.. because all i did was unpack. so correct me if im wrong here.
[10:44] <ussjoin> Kazol: You're on dapper now?
[10:44] <neverblue> EVERYTHING
[10:44] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[10:44] <jshewey> variant: according to lspci Radeon Mobility X1600
[10:44] <neverblue> even php5
[10:44] <Shrimpy_> mjunx: yes sir, know  much about it?
[10:44] <mjunx> gr2, and I asked you that first lol; that's not the problem though
[10:44] <gr2> shrimpy: yes it appears so. i am now using someone elses unprotected network
[10:44] <ward_> i just installed compiz-extra and no extra stuff appears in GLdeskop in the menu
[10:44] <Flannel> !upgrade | Kazol
[10:45] <ubotu> Kazol: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:45] <ward_> tany ideas
[10:45] <mjunx> Shrimpy_, nope, I don't use insecure encryption
[10:45] <ward_> t?
[10:45] <eck> Tarkus: is there not a folder hierarchy in the tarball?
[10:45] <gr2> junx: lol sorry
[10:45] <grungehead> variant: i want to have full acces so i even can write new files...
[10:45] <LjL> compengi: "who"
[10:45] <variant> jshewey: ok, definatly an proprietry driver required there unfortunatly :/
[10:45] <Draconicus> Is it possible to get spyware or adware with Firefox in Ubuntu Linux?
[10:45] <gr2> shrimpy: so the wireless card actually works
[10:45] <variant> grungehead: chown -R /path/to/mountpoint username
[10:45] <gekkoo> tarzeau: fbset worked fine, thanks :-)
[10:45] <Shrimpy_> gr2: ok let me search for the wep problems ( there was been a few lately)
[10:45] <mjunx> gr2, you can try installing wpagui and configure your network with that
[10:45] <steve__> is there a list of monitor details somewhere? i need the HorizSync etc for a DELL E153FP
[10:45] <ussjoin> Draconius: Possible? Yes. Likely? Definitely not.
[10:45] <gr2> junx: did you receive the paste adress? is that what you were expecting?
[10:45] <eck> Draconicus: if there's a security vulnerability in firefox, sure
[10:45] <variant> Draconicus: only if you choose to install it
[10:45] <__mikem> LjL, gcc isn't letting me add /usr/include/wx-2.8/ to its search path, and I need to do this to use wxWidgets and I am getting ready to go postal
[10:45] <bartzitz> mjunx: hey that helped, thanks a lot!
[10:45] <compengi> ompaul, aha thanks... oh i see 1 user is still tuck which is where i was connected to my pc through ssh when i wasn't at home. how can i close this connection/
[10:45] <ussjoin> Draconius: On Linux, "Anything is Possible!" But bad things are hugely unlikely.
[10:45] <idonthaveonesodo> i have just installed an old version of ubuntu
[10:46] <mjunx> bartzitz, sounds good
[10:46] <Draconicus> variant: Gotcha.
[10:46] <idonthaveonesodo> fresh install
[10:46] <neverblue> how can i entirely remove apache2? (everything) in ubuntu??
[10:46] <jshewey> variant: yep. So... Any idea why it is beryl is trying to use aiglx when I have xgl installd?
[10:46] <mjunx> gr2, yeah, that's it
[10:46] <idonthaveonesodo>  i think its called hoary? its that a version name ??
[10:46] <eck> neverblue: apt-get remove --purge apache2
[10:46] <jjido> Where is the config for the startup items? I need to stop Update Notifier from loading when I log in
[10:46] <bartzitz> mjunx: however, is there any way to fix it without loggin out?
[10:46] <eck> idonthaveonesodo: a very old one, yes
[10:46] <joeExample2> jshewey: set them to 0?  1?  10?
[10:46] <ussjoin> Draconicus: Look at http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222 for a cute related story.
[10:46] <bartzitz> mjunx: not critical, but yet
[10:46] <Tarkus> eck: in the tarball there is one folder named "Songbird" which contains more folders and files..
[10:46] <mazza558> decon: what options do you have for the sound? I think there will be your sound driver and another sound driver which reads something like "Advanced Linux Sound" or something. Try using the sound driver for music, then have the other one for everything esle
[10:46] <idonthaveonesodo> anyway, the install process never gave me a chance to pick up the root password
[10:46] <mjunx> bartzitz, well, open a new terminal perhaps
[10:46] <variant> jshewey: nope, if you're using beryl-manager it's easy enough to fix
[10:46] <ompaul> compengi, so ps auwx | grep ssh and find it
[10:46] <neverblue> eck that doesnt work
[10:46] <idonthaveonesodo> how do i get to be root ! ?
[10:46] <neverblue> eck dir is still there
[10:46] <mjunx> idonthaveonesodo, sudo -i
[10:46] <neverblue> with files in it
[10:46] <bartzitz> mjunx: oh. true :)
[10:46] <spasticteapot> idonthaveonesodo: su
[10:46] <Flannel> !root | idonthaveonesodo
[10:46] <ubotu> idonthaveonesodo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:46] <erstazi> What app is good for "video screenshots"?
[10:46] <Kazol> ussjoin: yes
[10:47] <Flannel> spasticteapot: no.  Su is wrong.  Please don't recommend that.
[10:47] <mjunx> erstazi, recordmydesktop
[10:47] <mazza558> decon: also, try another music player to see if it makes a difference.
[10:47] <eck> Tarkus: i would just create a folder called ~/songbird that you unpack the files to, and then in your .bashrc add a line at the end that reads 'export PATH=$HOME/songbird:$PATH'
[10:47] <variant> jshewey: just right click the beryl manager icon and select xgl instead of aiglx
[10:47] <erstazi> mjunx, thank you
[10:47] <gr2> junx: ok install wpagui
[10:47] <spasticteapot> Huh. It USED to work.
[10:47] <gr2> junx *installing
[10:47] <neverblue> neither does aptitude
[10:47] <LjL> __mikem: why doesn't it let you?
[10:47] <Kazol> Flannel: This is how I installed the card: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 . It said "Dapper and Edgy", but I'm assuming it will work in Feisty?
[10:47] <deCon> mazza558, WTF....it works
[10:47] <ompaul> spasticteapot, not on ubuntu
[10:47] <ussjoin> Kazol: I tend to (and this will give people in here heart attacks, but) upgrade fully at once.
[10:47] <mjunx> spasticteapot, su uses root, root has random password unless you change it via, *drumroll*, sudo
[10:47] <mazza558> decon: what works?
[10:47] <spasticteapot> ompaul: Man Su says it will work....
[10:47] <deCon> mazza558, now video AND sound work on youtube....i restarted x
[10:47] <mazza558> decon :)
[10:47] <ussjoin> Kazol: I just find that gives me a smaller set of broken things to fix.
[10:47] <spasticteapot> mjunx: Heh.
[10:47] <spasticteapot> I forgot that I did that first.
[10:47] <eck> neverblue: then remoe them yourself
[10:47] <bartzitz> mjunx: ok, now the mouse doesn't work in windows vm
[10:47] <deCon> mazza558, think it could possibly be amaroK hogging something?
[10:48] <ward_> i just installed compiz-extra and no extra stuff appears in GLdeskop in the menu, how can i get to them please?
[10:48] <Kazol> ussjoin: what do you mean? Reformat and install?
[10:48] <Flannel> mjunx, spasticteapot: no. Root does NOT have a random password.  It has no password, as it's locked.
[10:48] <ussjoin> Kazol: That said, I do that on my laptop, and my data's svned so if I have to work somewhere else for a day, that's OK.
[10:48] <mjunx> bartzitz, you gotta click on the window first I believe
[10:48] <gr2> junx: installing, ill tell you when its up
[10:48] <gekkoo> now the next thing: how do I disable the beep in textmode (non-X terminals)?
[10:48] <idonthaveonesodo> ok ty i got it
[10:48] <ompaul> spasticteapot, and ehh it does not - you found a bug please report it su - $otheruser works
[10:48] <spasticteapot> flamesrock: It worked in Edgy.
[10:48] <compengi> ompaul, thanks alot
[10:48] <bartzitz> mjunx: yes sure, did, no cursor
[10:48] <ussjoin> Kazol: I like that too :-) but linux people hate that. What I meant was go straight from Dapper to Feisty, or whatnot.
[10:48] <Tarkus> eck: alright, right now its unpacked to '/home/mike/songbird' and it works fine. but i dont know what you mean by the .bashrc and 'export PATH=$HOME/songbird:$PATH'.
[10:48] <spasticteapot> ompaul: Man Su says it will give you root.
[10:48] <gr2> junx: i feel like such a microsoft n00b :-)
[10:48] <Kazol> ussjoin: That is possible?
[10:48] <ompaul> spasticteapot, its a bug file it
[10:48] <eck> Tarkus: open up the file ~/.bashrc in a text editor and add that line
[10:48] <spasticteapot> I'm running Feisty...just updated this morning.
[10:48] <ploom> gekkoo, please do "man xset" (without the quotes)
[10:48] <Flannel> spasticteapot: only if the root password is enabled, which it is not.
[10:48] <neverblue> eck, i wouldnt know what files apache installs
[10:48] <spasticteapot> ompaul: Where do I file it?
[10:48] <mjunx> gr2, don't worry, I'm just spouting out things based on experience
[10:48] <mazza558> decon: it could be. it's strange that that happened though. i'll make a last recommendation - reduce the amount of network "overclocking" :)
[10:48] <ompaul> spasticteapot, on launchpad.net
[10:49] <variant> spasticteapot: using su to become root is disabled on ubuntu
[10:49] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[10:49] <gekkoo> ploom: isn't that for the X-terminals?
[10:49] <Draconicus> ussjoin: Hee.. I've used Linux for years. I didn't think I could get any kind of spyware or adware because of the security stuff that's actually logical. I've noticed some unusual popup ads appearing seemingly out of nowhere, but now I realize that it's just clever javascripting on this site I've recently been visiting.
[10:49] <neverblue> eck, thanks for the try anyways
[10:49] <mazza558> decon: it might put more pressure on servers
[10:49] <Flannel> neverblue: purge apache2, apache2.2-common, apache2-utils, apache2-mpm-worker.. and I think that'd be it.  There'll be a few other packages (APR runtimes and stuff), but I dont know if other things depend on those or not
[10:49] <Kazol> ussjoin: This is how I configured my wifi card: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 Will it work the same under Feisty?
[10:49] <mjunx> bartzitz, you might need a modified version of windows to use in a VM
[10:49] <Flannel> neverblue: but, those four will remove 90% of apache2, and all of the functionality.
[10:49] <gr2> junx: installed, whats the command to run wpagui lol
[10:49] <bartzitz> mjunx: mouse worked before, without kqemu
[10:49] <ussjoin> Kazol: Actually the skip upgrade's unsupported, looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion
[10:49] <tarzeau> www.dell.com/linux says nothing about ubuntu yet?
[10:49] <mjunx> gr2, wpa_gui
[10:49] <Tarkus> eck: what is that going to do?
[10:50] <mjunx> bartzitz, then it's probably a bug in kqemu, eh?
[10:50] <deCon> mazza558, dont know how..but it works now. i wonder if i can switch to beryl and if video will still work...going to try
[10:50] <compengi> ompaul, btw is it possible to install ubuntu through ssh?
[10:50] <mazza558> tarzeau: they'll add more info over he next month.
[10:50] <mjunx> bartzitz, try using qemu+kqemu with a different OS (e.g., ubuntu 7.04 disc)
[10:50] <neverblue> oh thank god, Flannel hey
[10:50] <eck> Tarkus: if you run 'echo $PATH' it will show you what directories bash looks for programs in when you run commands. this willjust add ~/songbird to the front of that list
[10:50] <bartzitz> mjunx: ok, will try to fix it somehow and let you know then
[10:50] <Shrimpy_> g2r: i have to leave now but i hope that you are able to connect to your network! have a good day
[10:50] <gr2> junx: ok. it doesnt read any adapter
[10:50] <hbaigu> bartzitz: do this before running qemu export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0
[10:50] <Kazol> ussjoin: I don't really mind installing Edgy as an intermediate step. But I am concerned whether this procedure: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 Will work in Feisty.
[10:50] <ompaul> compengi, anything is possibe (well almost) but I would not even give clock cycles to that manover it would drive you nuts
[10:50] <ussjoin> Draconicus: Right-- that's an odd website though. :-) But yes, the logical levels of security *nearly* always prevent priv-escalations-- and spyware is generally written toward the largest market, which isn't us, of course.
[10:50] <mazza558> decon: with any luck it should.
[10:50] <gr2> junx: in the scroll down menu, no "adapters" appears
[10:50] <bartzitz> hbaigu: ok thanks
[10:50] <mjunx> gr2, actually, it might be "gksu wpa_gui", try that
[10:50] <bob535> How can I force the edgy to upgrade to fiesty using only the DVD, the instructions given still requires (or it tries anyways) to connect to the internet which is not hooked up to the computer I am upgrading
[10:51] <eck> Tarkus: that way you can run it without specifying the whole path of the binary
[10:51] <Flannel> neverblue: the other few files would be libapr1 and libaprutil1,  mark those for removal, and see if you're removing anything else (that looks like it's not apache related), if so... don't remove them (other stuff might use the APR, I dont know)
[10:51] <neverblue> Flannel, can i take you to pm for a min instead?
[10:51] <ussjoin> Draconicus: Note that if the spyware is *really* a big issue to you (and security generally) then use OpenBSD. Ubuntu simply isn't designed for that level of impenetrability.
[10:51] <variant> bob535: if you have the correct sources.list that shouldnt happen
[10:51] <Flannel> neverblue: sure
[10:51] <jshewey> joeexample2: You can set them to whatever you want. the larger the value, the faster it will scroll. You can try googleing those terms to see an example xorg.conf file.
[10:51] <Tarkus> eck: oh, well i usualy go to the folder and double-click on the executable. (i use the GUI instead of terminal whenever its possible).
[10:51] <mjunx> bob535, I don't know the exact details, but you modify your repository settings to use files from the CD instead of the internet
[10:51] <deCon> mazza558, it does...however i'm still ont he problem train, when i restarted, my background disappeared, and it had a nautilus failure....? said something about bobboo or something
[10:51] <compengi> ompaul, aha.. then can i install ssh package on live cd?
[10:51] <hbaigu> bartzitz: i don't know if works
[10:51] <Kazol> Will this procedure: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 Work in Feisty?
[10:51] <eck> Tarkus: you can create a symlink on your desktop (or a program launcher somewhere)
[10:52] <ompaul> compengi, you could
[10:52] <mjunx> someone needs to invent a nonlinear version of IRC...
[10:52] <deCon> mazza558, restart X again? this time in Beryl without amaroK...and see if video will still play?
[10:52] <gr2> junx: it opens and says: could not get status from wpa_supplicant
[10:52] <ussjoin> Kazol: That page is pretty out of date. Ubuntu in 7.04 got a *lot* of companies to authorize firmware distribution-- so it's likely that it'll actually "just work."
[10:52] <mazza558> decon: that's a good idea.
[10:52] <eck> Tarkus: e.g. ln -s ~/songbird/the_name_of_the_binary ~/Desktop/Songbird
[10:52] <deCon> mazza558, furthermore it had a FAIL on my antivirus daemon....
[10:52] <chazco> hi... anyone know why hibernation breaks my USB bluetooth (pan service)?
[10:52] <Flannel> !install | compengi
[10:52] <compengi> ompaul, aha then how to start the install through the terminal?
[10:52] <ubotu> compengi: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:52] <ompaul> compengi, it will die after you shutdown unless you check out !persistance ( my spelling is wrong there)
[10:52] <ussjoin> Kazol: That said, if you could plug in *during* the upgrade (as it might break in Edgy, then work again in Feisty) that might be useful.
[10:52] <joeExample2> jshewey: thanks - I'll try it out
[10:52] <ompaul> compengi, get alternate CD
[10:53] <deCon> mazza558, why would nautilus fail, and why isn't my antivirus working automatically?
[10:53] <Draconicus> ussjoin: You're telling me, what with the whole thing built around sudo (one password makes things easier for users... and attackers :D) Anyway, popups were happening when I created new tabs. I now realize that the site has some firefox-proof scripts that make popups when you leave the page for whatever reason, but leave it open to run. Clever.
[10:53] <ompaul> compengi, what is on the box - and please I really don't want to think about this - it will have false starts I promise
[10:53] <Tarkus> eck: yea, alright, ill do that then. thanks for the help eck.
[10:53] <chazco> hibernation seems to prevent the bluetooth device from answering requests...any ideas?
[10:53] <jjido> Where is the config for the startup items? I need to stop Update Notifier from loading when I log in
[10:53] <h4wk0> Following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174.. I got two drivers in my windows partion "bcm4sbxp.sys.
[10:53] <eck> Draconicus: having a password protected root account also makes things easier for attackers
[10:53] <compengi> ompaul, lol i see... thanks anyway
[10:53] <h4wk0> Is that the correct one?
[10:53] <mjunx> gr2, run this then: "sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf"
[10:53] <Kazol> ussjoin: cool, I'll do it. If for some reason something gets screwed up, could I revert back to Dapper?
[10:53] <ussjoin> ussjoin: Well, I personally am in favor of the sudo escalation, if only because the password on the root account is bad in lots of ways.
[10:54] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[10:54] <ussjoin> Kazol: No-- not really.
[10:54] <mazza558> decon: there's any reason why something would fail. mainly it would be things not being compatible
[10:54] <mjunx> Kazol, reverting back to previous releases of software is a pain in the ass, but it's possible
[10:54] <ompaul> compengi, look at qemu and that is about all I will say
[10:54] <mazza558> decon: i think you mentioned upgrading from edgy?
[10:54] <gr2> junx: ok one sec
[10:54] <bob535> Variant could you tell me how to fix my sources.list in order to avoid it connecting to the internet during the upgrade?
[10:54] <deCon> mazza558, ya
[10:54] <marmoler> 7list
[10:54] <ussjoin> Draconicus: I actually like the sudo escalation over the root pw-- if only because it makes users recognize when they do something stupid, and yet prevents lots of root password issues.
[10:54] <gr2> junx: failed to read or parse configuration 'etc/....."
[10:54] <Flannel> Kazol: I suggest going to edgy.  And then waiting and seeing if it has everything you want.  If not, you cna always upgrade to Feisty later.  But, edgy will give you FF2, and a bunch of other stuff
[10:54] <isidoro> hi
[10:54] <chazco> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-dapper.git;a=commitdiff;h=58db2683478e24009dbae33ea76beafe47b356bb -- how can i see if this is intergrated in my kernel?
[10:55] <bartzitz> mjunx: ok, works, but cursor lags
[10:55] <variant> bob535: do you have a line in it specifiing the cd?
[10:55] <mjunx> gr2, try removing the last part with -c/etc/etc...
[10:55] <bartzitz> mjunx: will do for now
[10:55] <ussjoin> Draconicus: But one of the advantages of sudoishness to me is that users don't forget the secret code to do big things :-) so that's nice.
[10:55] <isidoro> who has experience with this video PCI capture card???   Twinhan DTV DVB-T (D+A)
[10:55] <gonnaeatthat> hey guys can i use kde apps if running gnome ubuntu?
[10:55] <mazza558> decon: these problems seem typical of a dodgy upgrade.... lots of people on the forums have reported problems
[10:55] <bob535> just checking now
[10:55] <mjunx> gonnaeatthat, yeah
[10:55] <bruenig> gonnaeatthat, yes
[10:55] <gr2> junx: allright it gave me something
[10:55] <madc> My wireless shows a dhcp address issued, and released when I kill dhclient, but ifconfig never shows an address
[10:55] <Kazol> Flannel: I always like having the latest and greatest software, I just don't want to spend 2 hours every upgrade changing settings or installing aps.
[10:55] <deCon> mazza558, anyway to fix things? ...brb going to restart x
[10:55] <gonnaeatthat> mjunx: thanks
[10:55] <compengi> ompaul, yeah i am thanks a lot, hope i didn't waste your time :)
[10:55] <ussjoin> Draconicus: And notice that that model is what everyone else (OSX and Vista) copied in the newest releases, years after Ubuntu made it the policy.
[10:55] <Draconicus> ussjoin: I'll admit it's handy, but I never struggled on systems without it. :P   It has its pros and its cons. Big dent in security when you make one password do everything, though.
[10:55] <gonnaeatthat> bruenig: thanks
[10:56] <bartzitz> mjunx: by the way, any experience with virtualbox? ppl say it's faster than wmvare, and vmware is faster for me than qemu+kqemu now
[10:56] <mjunx> bartzitz, nope, just played around with vmware and qemu
[10:56] <bartzitz> mjunx: what do you like most?
[10:56] <mjunx> bartzitz, but if I had the hardware support, I would have tried kvm also
[10:56] <ussjoin> Draconicus: Meh.. maybe. I don't think that's the insecure part of Ubuntu, really. And I think with a little-used Root password you have much more postit likelihood.
[10:56] <mjunx> bartzitz, I actually don't like either because neither can give you relatively fast virtualisation
[10:56] <bartzitz> mjunx: i have Celeron M, no kvm stuff
[10:57] <mazza558> decon: it *might* be better to do a clean reinstall of feisty
[10:57] <deCon> mazza558, this time nautilus was fine and my desktop background is still here
[10:57] <gr2> junx: i do not have a wpasupplicant.conf file
[10:57] <bartzitz> mjunx: ok thanks, great support
[10:57] <raf256> how to confiure my locale?
[10:57] <deCon> mazza558, and then reinstall all applications and such?
[10:57] <mazza558> decon: yes
[10:57] <raf256> that is tz locale, money locale, date format locale etc
[10:57] <lawlcostr> ubuntu good
[10:57] <xjkx> how can we donate to the cds distribution?
[10:57] <deCon> mazza558, ack
[10:57] <lawlcostr> lawlcostr approve
[10:57] <eck> Draconicus: from a security perspective, it certainly helps that I don't know the name of any accounts on your computer that can authenticate as root, because root logins are completely disabled, which is the only login you generally know exists
[10:57] <mazza558> decon: clean installs generally work much better
[10:58] <xjkx> cant see donate in site
[10:58] <deCon> mazza558, thought so, ill have to get a blank cd then :(...unless you know how to do a knoppix install?
[10:58] <mazza558> decon: but only do that if you really can't find another solution to your problems
[10:58] <deCon> mazza558, right
[10:58] <kuba> hi.can anyone tell my why command './file.sh 'doesn't work but command '. file.sh ' works correct ??
[10:58] <mazza558> decon: i'd recommend asking on the forums or on here
[10:58] <xjkx> there should have one donate
[10:58] <gr2> junx: trying to see if i can find anything on the wifi guide on ubuntu, ill be here :-)
[10:58] <lawlcostr> ubuntu to me is like a special friend
[10:58] <xjkx> so ppl would donate
[10:59] <lawlcostr> it doesnt play well with others(namely any hardware) but I still love it none the less
[10:59] <Draconicus> eck: Fair enough. Fair enough.
[10:59] <bruenig> xjkx, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/donations
[10:59] <karimfayez> Egypt LOCO team is announcing their official start today...join us at #ubuntu-eg
[10:59] <Draconicus> eck: Actually, that's a good point.
[10:59] <bruenig> kuba, what?
[10:59] <deCon> mazza558, crap, i just lost four windows or so of pages i hadn't bookmarked that "restore session" didn't fix.....:(
[11:00] <Draconicus> It's not so much disabled as it is scrambled, but still, that's a good method... You have a valid point.
[11:00] <mjunx> gr2, try out netapplet (program)
[11:00] <lawlcostr> deC0n UN-IN-STALL UR INTERNETZ!
[11:00] <lawlcostr> quick!
[11:00] <AlexC_> good morning,
[11:00] <mazza558> decon: ouch. anyway, i've gotta go now. good luck in finding a solution :)
[11:00] <kuba> bruenig : command ' . file.sh ' works correct but command ' ./file.sh ' does not
[11:00] <xjkx> bruenig, We use donated funds to pay developer contracts for feature goals in the next release, or contribute them to the bounty fund. ))) and who pays the cds?
[11:00] <gr2> junx: ok installing
[11:00] <deCon> mazza558, thanks! btw...it works...it must be amaroK
[11:00] <deCon> kane77, you around?
[11:00] <bruenig> xjkx, it is all the same pool I am sure
[11:00] <AlexC_> I've just installed Apache, but messed it up so I did "sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2" ... how ever, when I do "sudo apt-get install apache2" it is _not_ installing the apache2.conf file
[11:01] <AlexC_> how can I force apt-get to reinstall all files, ( --reinstall does not work)
[11:01] <bob535> mkay, the only other way I can do this is to somehow get edgy to connect to my wifi router. I was trying to get FF in order to avoid that exact problem.
[11:01] <chazco> anyone?
[11:01] <ammiel> !chroot
[11:01] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:01] <gr2> junx: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:01] <Flannel> AlexC_: are you on Feisty? or Dapper/Edgy?
[11:02] <AlexC_> Flannel: Feisty
[11:02] <Flannel> AlexC_: you need to remove (with purge, then reinstlal) apache2.2-common
[11:02] <gr2> junx: when i try running the netapplet command
[11:02] <mjunx> gr2, I don't know what to say really, I don't use wep, and that seems to be the problem
[11:03] <Kazol> Flannel: So is 'gksu "update-manager -c"' a good way to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?
[11:03] <gr2> junx: what does netapplet do? because it wont even start
[11:03] <AlexC_> Flannel: you sir, are a legend -D
[11:03] <Flannel> Kazol: Make sure you're up to date first, but yeah.
[11:03] <gr2> junx: but i agree, it has to be the WEP. since it works on non protected nets
[11:04] <Kazol> Flannel: I believe I am. I installed all updates a few days ago when prompted.
[11:04] <mjunx> gr2, netapplet is some applet thing for gnome that should let you configure wireless
[11:04] <deCon> Flannel, do you have any idea why my amaroK and other applications using sound/video may be conflicting, or how i can stop it?
[11:04] <Flannel> Kazol: Then you're probably good to go.
[11:04] <mjunx> gr2, here's some CLI mumbo-jumbo that might get it working, though
[11:04] <raf256> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=35373 how to change all that to be pl_PL
[11:04] <Kazol> Flannel: I'll try it! Thanks!
[11:04] <AlexC_> Flannel: thank you,
[11:05] <mjunx> gr2, sudo iwconfig eth1 key XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
[11:05] <mjunx> gr2, just put in your wep key as hex
[11:05] <deCon> i'm having some amaroK issues relating to it stealing sound, and/or xine...can anyone help me put a finger on it?
[11:05] <gr2> junx: ok one sec
[11:06] <yim> hello
[11:06] <isidoro> hi
[11:06] <yim> can u help me
[11:06] <gr2> junx: the pass is<PHONE_NUMBER> how do I write it?
[11:06] <jjido> mjunx: that is the same as putting the hex value in wireless config
[11:06] <isidoro> any of you has a TV PCI card working on feisty??
[11:06] <isidoro> I am getting crazy with my Twinhan DTV-DVB-T (D+A)
[11:06] <mjunx> gr2, 1234-5678-90
[11:06] <yim> can someone help me
[11:06] <gr2> junx: right :-P
[11:06] <jjido> gr2: are you sure that is the hewx
[11:07] <Nixx> well ive stuffedup beryl
[11:07] <mjunx> jjido, but he said it won't work
[11:07] <Nixx> i changed it to force xgl or something and now it freezes
[11:07] <mjunx> so instead, we see if he has some weird bug or something
[11:07] <jjido> mjunx: maybe he entered ascii
[11:07] <yim> what is caldrea dr dos
[11:07] <Nixx> i cannot find how to force it back to automatic (i tried removing the settings in the beryl folder)
[11:08] <gr2> jjido: yes, on windows I use that as the password
[11:08] <yim> hello
[11:08] <gr2> junx:  the command went through without errors.
[11:08] <yim> this will get ur attion
[11:08] <gr2> junx: wireless wont go
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <yim> flood
[11:08] <mjunx> !flood >yim
[11:09] <lio0r> hello
[11:09] <peres_> tell me please, what is http://www.lyricwiki.org different from lyriki ?
[11:09] <jjido> gr2: find the HEX key in Windows, then you should be fie
[11:09] <mjunx> peres_, it's a different site, that's how
[11:10] <gr2> jjido: what do you mean? when im in windows, in the network manager the PW I put in is<PHONE_NUMBER>, what should I find?
[11:10] <AlexC_> peres_: try to keep all non-ubuntu support questions to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:10] <gr2> junx: your command went through btw
[11:10] <yim> help
[11:10] <yim> please
[11:10] <mazza558> does anyone know how to fix this problem? on gaim, in the typing box the text is black, but when I press enter, it turns grey...?
[11:10] <yim> dr dos
[11:10] <AlexC_> yim: stop spamming, we can not help if you ask no question!
[11:10] <mjunx> gr2, still doesn't do anything?
[11:10] <yim> i have no clue what it is
[11:10] <peres_> alexc_ yeah, well sorry, i thought i was on lyriki irc..
[11:10] <mjunx> dr dos is a version of dos
[11:10] <mjunx> old-skewl
[11:10] <mjunx> just use freedos if you want something good
[11:11] <gr2> junx; appears not,. but jjido says the PW may not be<PHONE_NUMBER>
[11:11] <peres_> mjunx, different site well thanks for the answer...
[11:11] <gr2> junx: but that is what i use on windows
[11:11] <yim> i dont want any dos
[11:11] <yim> i wnat linux
[11:11] <AlexC_> yim: install Ubuntu then?
[11:11] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel?
[11:11] <mjunx> gr2, try this then: "s:1234567890"
[11:11] <yim> i cant i get dr dos
[11:11] <AlexC_> ok
[11:11] <mazza558> does anyone know how to fix this problem? on gaim, in the typing box the text is black, but when I press enter, it turns grey...?
[11:11] <yim> or caldrea dr dos
[11:11] <jjido> gr2: sorry I don't know Win wireless.  There are 2 passwords: the plain text one and the hex version
[11:11] <kane77> deCon, now I am...
[11:11] <yim> i want ubuntu
[11:12] <preaction> !repeat | mazza558
[11:12] <strabes> mazza558: that's not a bug, it's a feature of beta6
[11:12] <ubotu> mazza558: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:12] <AlexC_> yim: download Ubuntu off the offocial site, and you will have Ubuntu
[11:12] <mjunx> yim, so download the ubuntu cd image and burn it or get a cd from shipit.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <yim> i did
[11:12] <mwe> !install | yim
[11:12] <yim> i put it on the cd
[11:12] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel?
[11:12] <yim> and then booted
[11:12] <AlexC_> yim: from the _official_ site
[11:12] <strabes> mazza558: it helps you easily differentiate between what you say and what your friend says
[11:12] <yim> then i got dr dos
[11:12] <gr2> junx: sudo iwconfig eth1 key s:1234567890
[11:12] <yim> yes from the offical site
[11:12] <mjunx> yim, maybe you've got dr dos on your computer...
[11:12] <ubotu> yim: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:12] <Lbawinowns> Can I get help with GIMP basics here?
[11:12] <gr2> junx like that?
[11:12] <mjunx> gr2, yes
[11:12] <deCon> kane77, nevermind, i seem to have found an issue that may fix my audio issues, however, amaroK still doesn't work properly, and printing is an issue, but i can take care of that later. Thanks for the response!
[11:12] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel? or how do i get somthing like windows explorer in my panel?
[11:13] <thelostpatrol> does ubuntu feisty come with a dock?
[11:13] <yim> how do i get it off
[11:13] <yim> of my computer
[11:13] <mjunx> thelostpatrol, install kxdocker
[11:13] <mazza558> strabes: are you sure? It happened suddenly after a few days of reinstalling feisty
[11:13] <thelostpatrol> thanks
[11:13] <AlexC_> Lbawinowns: this is Ubuntu support, not Gimp support
[11:13] <kane77> deCon, :) I was away.. sry
[11:13] <arrow_> I'm looking for a notebook to put Ubuntu on, and I keep seeing (ThinkPad A31 - P4 M 1.6GHz *512KB*, 256MB, 20GB,) what does the 512KB stand for?
[11:13] <Lbawinowns> AlexC_ : can you redirect me?
[11:13] <strabes> mazza558: pretty sure; it's that way for me and i don't even use gnome (ubuntu)
[11:13] <mjunx> arrow_, L2 cache probably
[11:13] <mwe> #gimp?
[11:13] <mazza558> strabes: and there hasn't been a gaim update since i reinstalled.
[11:13] <AlexC_> Lbawinowns: #gimp or Google->Gimp tutorials
[11:13] <jjido> yim: you want to uninstall grub?
[11:13] <yim> what is that
[11:13] <Lbawinowns> Thanks :)
[11:14] <arrow_> mjunnx, will that be in wikipedia?
[11:14] <yim> wher do i find it
[11:14] <mazza558> strabes: hmm. thanks anyway :)
[11:14] <mjunx> arrow_, most certainly
[11:14] <gr2> junx: nothing
[11:14] <strabes> mazza558: does it really bother you? there's probably an option somewhere in ~/.gaim or something
[11:14] <arrow_> mjunx thx
[11:14] <kane77> is there any indent utility for gedit?
[11:14] <gr2> junx: i think we need a better gui than net manager.
[11:14] <jjido> yim: the boot menu
[11:14] <ubuntu_> ola
[11:14] <mazza558> strabes: I'll get by. It's just slightly annoying.
[11:15] <mjunx> gr2, there are like 20 GUIs for network config, and they all suck because none do what I want, but that's just me ;p
[11:15] <yim> what would it be under
[11:15] <FurryNemesis> does the new network manager support WPA?
[11:15] <strabes> mazza558: i thought it was kinda annoying at first as well then i grew to appreciate it (sort of)
[11:15] <sacater> yes
[11:15] <Consty> FurryNemesis: yyes it does.
[11:15] <strabes> FurryNemesis: the one that comes with feisty? yes
[11:15] <Vaske_Car> how to install JAVA for Opera?
[11:15] <gr2> junx: lol. well as long as it works with WEP, :-)
[11:15] <FurryNemesis> I really need to upgrade....
[11:15] <strabes> gr2: lol, wep
[11:15] <jjido> strabes: Edgy's doesn't?
[11:16] <gr2> junx: because i cant ask the administrator to remove the pw protection
[11:16] <yim> how to uninstall dr dos
[11:16] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[11:16] <strabes> jjido: oh, i don't remember. I installed feisty as soon as they released betas because i had a lot of problems with edgy. I believe it did though.
[11:16] <mjunx> yim, reformat
[11:16] <yim> reformat what
[11:16] <thelostpatrol> is kxdocker the default dock in ubuntu?
[11:16] <mjunx> gr2, there are a bunch of KDE applets you might want to check, but they don't look good in GNOME (and vice-versa)
[11:16] <gr2> junx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19028/ thats what i get with iwconfig btw
[11:17] <mjunx> thelostpatrol, that's the best dock program I know of
[11:17] <idonthaveonesodo> how do you get mp3 support ?
[11:17] <mjunx> yim, your harddrive
[11:17] <thelostpatrol> mjunx, thank you
[11:17] <mjunx> idonthaveonesodo, try playing an mp3 and you should be prompted to install the codec
[11:17] <gr2> junx: even if they dont look well, do they work ? hehe
[11:17] <strabes> idonthaveonesodo: do you have feisty? install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:17] <yim> how do i format my hdd
[11:17] <jjido> Where is the config for the startup items? I need to stop Update Notifier from loading when I log in
[11:17] <bagualas> When I remove my secundary HDD, ubuntu gives all lots of errors, but its installed on primary. HelP???
[11:17] <tag> Is that save-as dialog ever going to get fixed?
[11:17] <strabes> jjido: system, preferences, sessions
[11:17] <mjunx> gr2, if iwconfig doesn't work, there's not much else to try besides wpasupplicant
[11:18] <mjunx> yim, gparted
[11:18] <superante> hi,,,
[11:18] <yim> i dont knwo what that means
[11:18] <idonthaveonesodo> mjunx: it says i might need to install the corresponding plugins... but doesnt say which
[11:18] <superante> i have a problem with audio
[11:18] <lio0r> Possible assistance for the installation of Apache
[11:18] <idonthaveonesodo> strabes: i just installed hoary
[11:18] <jjido> strabes: wow, thanks! I swear I looked there before....
[11:18] <mjunx> yim, that's the program you can use
[11:18] <strabes> jjido: np
[11:18] <superante> i have an asus w5f
[11:18] <mjunx> idonthaveonesodo, then choose 'em all
[11:18] <strabes> idonthaveonesodo: hoary? wow that's old
[11:18] <Flannel> lio0r: !ask | lio0r
[11:19] <yim> ok i dont have winwos though
[11:19] <mjunx> !mp3 | idonthaveonesodo
[11:19] <ubotu> idonthaveonesodo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:19] <hbaigu> yim: can you boot from the ubuntu cd?
[11:19] <gr2> junx: that thing i pasted means iwconfig doesnt work right?
[11:19] <mjunx> yim, gparted is a linux program
[11:19] <yim> no
[11:19] <superante> this is my chipset Realtek ALC660-VD
[11:19] <gints> chat.delfi.lv
[11:19] <Flannel> idonthaveonesodo: Hoary?  Reinstall something else.  Hoary isn't supported (and hasn't been for about six months).  Might I suggest Dapper?
[11:19] <gints> bled
[11:19] <superante> i listen only by phones
[11:19] <superante> any ideas?
[11:19] <hbaigu> yim: what it happen when you try?
[11:19] <mjunx> gr2, it means it isn't finding it apparently
[11:20] <idonthaveonesodo> nah , i just installed to download another iso... and while at it i would like to listen to some mp3
[11:20] <wepeel> Hi all. Can anyone suggest an ebook reader for ubuntu?
[11:20] <mjunx> gr2, try "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" and pastebin it
[11:20] <yim> it takes me to the fuckin cadrea dr dos
[11:20] <AlexC_> !language | yim
[11:20] <ubotu> yim: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:20] <yim> sorry
[11:20] <lio0r> Tried very structure but to no avail
[11:20] <yim> did u boot me
[11:21] <superante> someone has hda audio?
[11:21] <hbaigu> yim: is a recent computer?  or a old one?
[11:21] <gr2> junx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19029/
[11:21] <lio0r> i am speak ar
[11:21] <idonthaveonesodo> what version # is hoary ? can someone tell me
[11:21] <yim> very new
[11:21] <yim> like a year
[11:21] <mjunx> !ar | lio0r
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <mjunx> hmm, ar?
[11:21] <lio0r> arabic
[11:21] <mjunx> oh, are you sure that's the L10n abbreviation for it?
[11:22] <mjunx> oh, it is
[11:22] <Me2resh> lio0r: hi, i speak arabic too, what is your problem ?
[11:22] <hbaigu> yim: did you check the bios of the computer, and see if the boot from cd option is set?
[11:22] <lawlcostr> why has ubuntu's popularity blown up compared to other linux distros that have been around for years?
[11:22] <yim> yes
[11:22] <idonthaveonesodo> !hoary
[11:22] <ubotu> hoary was the second release of Ubuntu. Version 5.04, codename "Hoary Hedgehog"
[11:22] <arrow_> What do the different types of memory matter?
[11:22] <kitche> lawlcostr: it's not a niche distro
[11:22] <mjunx> lawlcostr, because we have money :P
[11:22] <Flannel> lawlcostr: #ubuntu-offtopic is the perfect place for that question
[11:22] <lio0r> me2resh
[11:22] <deCon> what is the best music player? performance wise..amaroK seems to be too buggy and i'm sick of it
[11:22] <arrow_> !WorksForMe
[11:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:22] <deCon> kane77, what audio player do you use?
[11:23] <Me2resh> lio0r: yes ?
[11:23] <lio0r> momke kas
[11:23] <gr2> junx: did you get the URL?
[11:23] <mjunx> deCon, lots of people live and die by XMMS
[11:23] <Meatbag> Anybody know how i would install ubuntu over a network to my laptop?
[11:23] <mjunx> gr2, yeah
[11:23] <kane77> deCon, mainly listen and amarok
[11:23] <deCon> mjunx, XMMS...hmm
[11:23] <mjunx> gr2, gimme a sec
[11:23] <webjames> deCon: try exaile
[11:23] <strabes> deCon: amarok? buggy? i've never had a problem with it. everything works flawlessly for me
[11:23] <Me2resh> lio0r: eh ??
[11:23] <blockcipher> exaile works nicely for me.
[11:23] <jovan> after alot of years I grew tired of windows... and it only took me 2 days to grow tired of linux... I'm gonna stop using computers at all
[11:23] <deCon> kane77, do you have any issues with amarok like it shwoing the splash then never showing up?
[11:23] <lio0r> h
[11:23] <kane77> deCon, no, not realy
[11:24] <mjunx> gr2, looks like there's two networks named "DB"...
[11:24] <lio0r>
[11:24] <deCon> kane77, your in feisty? w/ beryl?
[11:24] <kane77> deCon, although I have feeling listen has some memory leak...
[11:24] <blockcipher> I still use amarok to use my ipod tho, seems to work nicely for me in that regard
[11:24] <mjunx> ohnoes, ltr and rtl mixed! and it works! go go konversation/kde
[11:24] <kitche> lio0r: this is an english only channel
[11:24] <lio0r> <Me2resh
[11:24] <kane77> deCon, w/o beryl
[11:24] <J_P> people, I have a 4,5gb of files to sabe in CD (700mb). What is better form to divide that, record in CD. and when I will be need get all peaces and have agaim 4,5gb of the data ?
[11:24] <deCon> kane77, how about uninstall it and reinstall...would that help?
[11:24] <mjunx> go make #ubuntu-ar and update the bot :)
[11:24] <gr2> junx: yes thats the SSID of the net im trying to connect
[11:24] <yim> i need to know how to remove dr dos
[11:25] <kitche> !arabic | lio0r
[11:25] <ubotu> lio0r: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[11:25] <jovan> nn svensk hr inne?
[11:25] <mjunx> gr2, but there are two of them
[11:25] <gr2> junx: theres 2 hotspots near here, thats why you see 2 probably
[11:25] <mjunx> oh, sa? uh, k...
[11:25] <Braddf0rd> Hey, does anyone know how I might get an MP3 to play.... at all in Ubuntu
[11:25] <mjunx> should be #ubuntu-ar instead...
[11:25] <lio0r> thanks ubotu
[11:25] <kitche> mjunx: saudia ariba probably
[11:25] <mjunx> Braddf0rd, try opening it in totem
[11:25] <variant> jovan: #ubuntu.se
[11:25] <preaction> yim: you do not need to remove drdos, you need to install ubuntu over it (on the same partition)
[11:25] <kane77> deCon, might help it if you remove also config files...
[11:25] <mjunx> gr2, do they both have the same password?
[11:25] <gr2> junx: yes
[11:26] <deCon> kane77, could you point me to the command to uninstall amaroK and configs for it?
[11:26] <thelostpatrol> help! no shutdown/restart buttons! they disappeared.
[11:26] <mjunx> deCon, sudo aptitude --purge remove amarok
[11:26] <gr2> junx: theyre basically the same network, but you can connect through 2 hots
[11:26] <mjunx> er,
[11:26] <mjunx> deCon, sudo aptitude --purge remove amarok amarok-xine
[11:26] <ashlon> Heres a question, how do I change my mic volume so I sound louder in skype?
[11:26] <jovan> variant: I could swear that I hade been put under some kind of /mute command
[11:26] <preaction> thelostpatrol: right-click an empty area on your panel and click "Add to Panel..."
[11:26] <Consty> when using beryl, what's the best video output to use for mplayer?  The only one that works right is x11, but it doesn't stretch the video at all
[11:26] <deCon> mjunx, thanks...and for reinstall?
[11:26] <hbaigu> yim: whay did you say dr dos, what you see the computer?
[11:26] <mjunx> Consty, gl, gl2, xv, xvidix, depends on your video card
[11:27] <kane77> deCon, aptitude --purge remove amarok
[11:27] <hbaigu> yim: what you see in the computer?
[11:27] <deCon> kk done purging...now for the reinstall?
[11:27] <yim> thats what come up on my pc when i try to boot from the cd
[11:27] <mjunx> gr2, do you remember any other details about the network? like is it open or restricted? etc.
[11:27] <yim> caldrea dr dos
[11:27] <Consty> mjunx: I have a Intel GMA950, gl works without beryl/compiz but flickers with it on.. gl2 doesn't work.  xv works but doesn't show video when I drag cube around, only x11 works.
[11:27] <mjunx> you sure it's not caldera?
[11:27] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, I don't see totem, does it not come w/ Ubuntu?
[11:27] <yim> yea that
[11:27] <Consty> mjunx: haven't tried xvidix
[11:27] <yim> caldrea dr dos
[11:28] <deCon> mjunx, for install...making sure it has any plugins it needs? sudo aptitude install amarok?
[11:28] <yim> that is what it says
[11:28] <mjunx> Consty, xv works best with intel in my experience
[11:28] <mjunx> deCon, amarok-xine
[11:28] <bagualas> When I remove my secundary HDD, ubuntu gives all lots of errors, but its installed on primary. Help???
[11:28] <blockcipher> I had a quick question.  When I connect to my wifi at home, keymanager wants me to enter a password in each time .. anyway to auto enter that, or get rid of it altogether?
[11:28] <Consty> mjunx: but it's overlay and doesn't show when you drag to the next cube and stuff.. you see blue
[11:28] <evilxhwnd> i have the same question as blockcipher
[11:28] <gr2> junx: shared key network
[11:28] <HeadDown> hello, when i try to boot ubuntu cd I get a blank screen. I'm using geforce 8800. Is there an issues about this ?
[11:28] <mjunx> Consty, I know, that's because xv renders straight to X rather than a slower method like x11
[11:28] <deCon> mjunx, i had some xine errors i think after i installed feisty...should doing this have fixed those issues?
[11:29] <mjunx> deCon, possibly
[11:29] <W_o_r[l] d> !faq ntfs
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about faq ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <W_o_r[l] d> !ntfs
[11:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:29] <evilxhwnd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316927 doesn't work
[11:29] <piNNoy> how do i get my sda1 in my panel? or how do i get somthing like windows explorer in my panel?
[11:29] <piNNoy> !ntfs-3g
[11:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:29] <mjunx> deCon, try checking the #mplayer channel, they might be able to give some advice (I'm there also hehe)