[04:18] <jrib> padee: well I would proceed like this: 1) create a fresh new user and test. 2) backup your current gdm settings, purge gdm, and reinstall gdm
[04:18] <dooglus> jrib: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/dvd.png
[04:18] <Res> if i click on your name w/ the right mouse button than the 2nd
[04:18] <matt__> Nubbie: ok, i was using amarok, now i am using exaile. what about all of the kde dependances i had to download for amarok, how can i uninstall them?
[04:18] <jd823592> but i am quite new to linux and i cant make it run
[04:18] <jpjacobs> spap, if i were you, i'd install the pacakages by hand, and not via some script that does who knows what to your system
[04:18] <spx2> xtknight: just ran apt-get install linux-source
[04:18] <dooglus> jrib: I can play it with mplayer, but can't see any of the menus that way, just the main movie
[04:18] <xtknight> spx2, well my elf.h doesnt need asm/processor.h
[04:18] <axz> hi ppl
[04:19] <Res> stittel: sound for me like a "priv chat"...
[04:19] <xtknight> spx2, what kernel version?
[04:19] <stittel> Res: I think we are usuing different software to connect to IRC, so I can't reproduce what you are talking about.
[04:19] <Nubbie> matt__: sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:19] <stittel> Res: Click on it and see what happens.
[04:19] <ubuntuEdgy>  Nvening: yes ...look here http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:UgPm-cju68gJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D83973+ubuntu+feisty+screen+resolution+problem&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=14&gl=uk
[04:19] <dr_willis> jd823592,  googling for information would proberly be your best bet. I recall all sorts of issues with  that game.  Theres a Ubuntu gamer forum site also.
[04:19] <axz> i have a issue... how to get access to the hard driver to be read and write not only reasd
[04:19] <axz> read*
[04:19] <matt__> Nubbie: ok, i did that, something else must be using them. not sure what, but maybe i'll figure it out, thanks!
[04:19] <spap> jpjacobs : what i have to do now?
[04:19] <LinuxHelp> Okay I guess I need linux-doc
[04:19] <spx2> xtknight: 2.6.17-10-generic
[04:19] <axz> all i get is The permissions could not be changed.
[04:19] <Res> well it opens an extra " chat" but noboadyd anseres me ..
[04:19] <ubuntuEdgy> its not the one that fixed mines...I'm still looking for that guide
[04:19] <jrib> padee: and in recovery mode take a look at /home/your_user/.xsession-errors
[04:19] <jd823592> dr_willis: can you post link plz?
[04:19] <Mirage> Hello
[04:20] <xtknight> spx2, ok.  type "stat /usr/src/linux | grep File"
[04:20] <flegion> hey guys, I've been trying to get ubuntu to work with WPA on my rt73 wifi adapter. Does anyone have any experience with that?
[04:20] <Nubbie> matt__: you did uninstall amarok right?
[04:20] <stittel> Res: Which IRC client do you use?
[04:20] <jpjacobs> spap, purge the package you have trouble with, and reinstall that  through aptitude/synaptic
[04:20] <matt__> Nubbie: right
[04:20] <spx2> xtknight: how long do you think it would take for linux-source to instlal ?
[04:20] <Mirage> My network connection on my ubuntu 7-04 box keeps dying
[04:20] <Mirage> For no apparent reason
[04:20] <xtknight> spx2, not long to install, and download time depends on your connection.
[04:20] <Nubbie> flegion: tell people what's wrong. people can't help unless they know what's wrong.
[04:20] <xtknight> installation time perhaps 5 minutes or 10
[04:20] <xtknight> depends
[04:20] <spap> jpjacobs : unfortunatelly octave-workshop is not mentioned in synaptic
[04:20] <Mirage> It started happening a few days ago
[04:20] <padee> jrib: ok, that with the xsession errors i will manage... but how can i create a new user in the terminal?
[04:20] <spx2> xtknight: still same problem
[04:21] <xtknight> spx2, what did the stat cmd report
[04:21] <Res> Xchat ... from ADD/remove...
[04:21] <spx2> xtknight: after installation of linux-source
[04:21] <Mirage> a restart solves it, but I really don't want to restart all the time
[04:21] <flegion> I've tried just about every guide on ununtuforums.org for setting up WPA. I'm trying to use WPA_supplicant and the last time, all I got was "daemonize.."
[04:21] <Mirage> Anyone got a few things I can try to get it back on line without restarting?
[04:21] <jpjacobs> spap, i can't really help you with it then... try to get help from the people who maintain scibuntu.
[04:21] <xtknight> Mirage, sudo dhclient <IF>
[04:21] <highvoltage> hi. is the Ubuntu packaging guide available as a PDF?
[04:21] <jrib> dooglus: close totem, does it work if you do: totem dvd://
[04:21] <xtknight> e.g. "sudo dhclient eth0"
[04:21] <spx2> xtknight: stat: cannot stat `/usr/src/linux': No such file or directory
[04:21] <stittel> Res: Xchat is probably used by hundreds here in the channel. Just ask.
[04:22] <jrib> padee: adduer new_user_name
[04:22] <jrib> padee: adduser new_user_name
[04:22] <jpjacobs> spap, just plain octave + octave forge is available from apt, as is koctave and octave-emacs
[04:22] <boricua> !automatix
[04:22] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:22] <xtknight> spx2, okay.  type "sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux"
[04:22] <Res> you are useing the original ?!...
[04:22] <xtknight> this will create a symbolic link at /usr/src/linux pointing to your actual kernel headers
[04:22] <boricua> !WorksForMe
[04:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:22] <spap> jpjacobs : ok jpjacobs thank you very much  for your time!
[04:22] <stittel> Res: I am not using Xchat! :)
[04:22] <kaptnemo> Hey Willis is it possible to use chmod to change the access permissions of my drives? if so how exactly would I go about doing so?
[04:22] <xtknight> spx2, sorry ill fix the command
[04:22] <xtknight> spx2, okay.  type "sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux"
[04:23] <Res> stittel: thought so .. so witsh program are u using ?
[04:23] <xtknight> spx2, if you did the last one, type "sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux" and use my revised command
[04:23] <jrib> dooglus: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/baltix/+bug/41335
[04:23] <Res> stittel: mIRC?
[04:23] <jpjacobs> spap, no problemo. with octave+ octave forge+ gnuplot you should be good.
[04:23] <stittel> Res: God no! :)
[04:23] <jrib> dooglus: you could always use gxine
[04:23] <Mirage> That didn't seem to work
[04:23] <kaptnemo> is it possible to use chmod to change the access permissions of my drives? if so how exactly would I go about doing so?
[04:23] <stittel> Res: I am using Konversation. http://konversation.kde.org/
[04:23] <dr_willis> kaptnemo,  for ntfs/vfat you MUST MUST MUST - set the permissions when mounted. Thus theneed for the umask option.  Theres severalntfs howto/docs out that detail this. :)
[04:23] <Mirage> It says No DHCPOFFERS received
[04:24] <jrib> kaptnemo: what filesystem?
[04:24] <Res> stittel: mIRC?
[04:24] <Res> stittel: why not mirc?
[04:24] <kaptnemo> the fat drive is mounted fine and I can access it
[04:24] <Res> stittel: asking because i used it over 9 month
[04:24] <spap> jpjacobs: you are correct but octave-workshop is closer to matlab. i am familiar with it.
[04:24] <kaptnemo> it's the two linux drives that will only let the root write to them
[04:24] <stittel> Res: mIRC is Windows software and I am not running Windows.
[04:24] <spx2> xtknight: did all that , still the same problem
[04:24] <stittel> Res: Besides, I always found it rather clunky and inflexible to scripting.
[04:24] <spap> i will try octave-forge. thanks again
[04:24] <Mirage> I doubt it is a problem with my network cables, because it fixes itself when I restart
[04:25] <stittel> Res: Last not least, isn't it Shareware?
[04:25] <xtknight> spx2, would you mind linking me to the kernel debugger's package?
[04:25] <xtknight> ill see what i can do
[04:25] <Res> stittel: ahh ok .. (i am used windoof)
[04:25] <Mirage> But I just don't want to restart twice a day because of something like that
[04:25] <kaptnemo> Jrib I'm using Xubuntu
[04:25] <Res> stittel: ahh ok .. (I used windoof)
[04:25] <jrib> kaptnemo: yeah, you use chmod/chown as usual on ext3 parititons that you have mounted (don't change permissions on your system files though).
[04:25] <xtknight> Mirage, do you use DHCP or static ip
[04:25] <dooglus> jrib: I just installed totem-xine, which removed the totem that came with feisty
[04:25] <Mirage> in fact, i would like for it to never even happen
[04:25] <jrib> !permissions > kaptnemo (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:25] <Mirage> DHCP
[04:25] <dooglus> jrib: so I can
[04:25] <dooglus> 't try what you suggested :(
[04:25] <jpjacobs> spap, you can use octave --braindead for as full as matlabcompatible it can get, and get yourself an editor with syntaxhighlighting and matlab support (like vim gvim or scite)
[04:25] <xtknight> Mirage, and your itnerface is eth0?
[04:25] <Mirage> yes
[04:25] <stittel> Res: Did you totally switch to Linux or are you just trying it out?
[04:25] <xtknight> Mirage, well it sounds like your router is knocking you off.  its DHCP pool is full
[04:25] <Mirage> it's a 3com card of some sort
[04:25] <spx2> xtknight: what would that mean ,and how could i do that ?
[04:25] <xtknight> Mirage, you may want to expand the DHCP clients table as other PCs may be robbing your IP
[04:25] <jrib> dooglus: taht works too, I just suggested gxine in case you wanted to keep gstreamer for some reason
[04:26] <xtknight> spx2, give me a URL to the Source tarball of the kernel debugger
[04:26] <dr_willis> kaptnemo,  for external ext3 drives. you can change the permissions of the files and stuff normally.
[04:26] <dooglus> jrib: totem-xine can't play dvds either - different error message though
[04:26] <Mirage> It's not my network, i can't change that, i think
[04:26] <Taras> yay!
[04:26] <Res> stittel: i have a notebook and a desktop.. notbook is 12" and the hardwere kind of old ..so no games running really good ...
[04:26] <Taras> i got it to work, thanks
[04:26] <xtknight> Mirage, then youll have to contact your network administrator :D
[04:26] <dooglus> jrib: "totem could not play 'dvd:/'.  There is no plugin to handle this move.
[04:26] <Mirage> :(
[04:26] <dooglus> this movie."
[04:26] <Taras> whoever told me to use another CD drive
[04:26] <xtknight> Mirage, umm this only happens with linux or no?
[04:26] <Mirage> Well, for some reason, the laptop that I'm  using now is never affected
[04:26] <stittel> Res: And the notebook runs Linux and the desktop runs Windows?
[04:27] <Res> stittel: so i load ubuntu on my notebook and the desktop is still running with windoof
[04:27] <xtknight> Mirage, sorry then i really dont have any more ideas to throw out there
[04:27] <luisgmarine> Hello I was wondering if any of you guys were having issues with sound in flash flickers, or can anyone recommend some attempts to fix it?
[04:27] <Res> stittel: right...
[04:27] <Mirage> Okay, thank you
[04:27] <xtknight> Mirage, i suggest a networking channel...say you're losing your DHCP lease spontaneously
[04:27] <spx2> xtknight: should i google for my version of the kernel ?
[04:27] <xtknight> Mirage, or attemp to use a static ip
[04:27] <Mirage> Thanks.
[04:27] <spx2> xtknight: oooh i understand now
[04:27] <xtknight> spx2, are you sure what you're compiling is a kernel debugger?
[04:27] <spx2> xtknight: sorry i didnt read
[04:27] <Mirage> I'll try a static IP, and if that doesn't fix it
[04:27] <xtknight> hehe
[04:27] <spx2> xtknight: pretty sure
[04:28] <Mirage> I'll have a chat with the admin
[04:28] <Mirage> thanks all
[04:28] <kaptnemo> ok well it seems when I did my install and set my mount points for my 2nd ad 3rd drives I have them mounted in the /media dir...
[04:28] <Res> stittel: well still have some issues with the printer (canon ip4300 or anything like it an some USB bluethooth adapter )but i am totaly happy .. (really like Beryl :d
[04:28] <xtknight> spx2, i just need the souce code of the thing you're trying to "make"
[04:28] <stittel> Res: If you run Beryl on your notebook it can't be that old.
[04:28] <padee> jrib: i am not sure, but there is no .xsession-errors file
[04:29] <stittel> Res: The problem is that many switchers seek a better Windows in Linux, and a better Windows it isn't. A better operating system, probably, but not a better Windows.
[04:29] <dooglus> jrib: I tried gxine too - and got a 3rd different error message: "The xine engine failed to start.  No demuxer found - stream format not recognised."
[04:29] <Res> stittel: hehe .. well is is a sentia (alienware IP M 2000mhz and 1gb Ram ...
[04:29] <jrib> dooglus: hmm, you have libxine-extracodecs?
[04:30] <jrib> padee: where did you look?
[04:30] <Res> stittel:  I already used windows 95 and the carppy stuff befor ... and changed so often between W ME ,NT and 2000
[04:31] <Res> stittel: now i had XP and got totaly frustaed because i hade so many problems... and my system is a quit good on...
[04:31] <jrib> dooglus: and maybe libxine1-plugins?
[04:31] <Mirage> well
[04:31] <redmonkey> Res: you finally found an operating system :)
[04:32] <mcn06> Can anyone help me with the installation/running of freevo?
[04:32] <Mirage> using a static IP doesn' seem to change anything
[04:32] <Res> stittel: that the fan of the NB started to get creaty and louder the a hoover ..
[04:32] <stittel> Res: All operating systems can be quite frustrating. The just are frustrating in different ways. :)
[04:32] <dr_willis> life can be quite frustrating.
[04:32] <Res> redmonkey hopefully :D
[04:33] <Res> stittel i know but i think that linux and OSX are now on the way to the top  VISTA is a huge jocke!
[04:33] <spx2> xtknight: we have to go on private ok ?
[04:34] <dooglus> jrib: apparently we're giving up and using a real dvd player.
[04:34] <Res> stittel: and if i just remember that windows wants to cancel all updates for XP in 6 month  i am gettinh crazy!
[04:34] <Taras> hey, i have a question... does sound work on the live CD?
[04:34] <xtknight> spx2, okay
[04:34] <padee> jrib: in /home/theuser/
[04:34] <cotton> Why does web pages look messed up in ubuntu, like text overlapping and stuff
[04:34] <stittel> Res: I think you have misread that. They will not drop security updates for XP in 6 month.
[04:34] <jrib> padee: ok so that's your new user?  Did you look for .xsession-errors after trying to log into GNOME and failing?
[04:34] <sldkfj> I use feisty and to empty the trash I look and find out I don't have the 'Empty Trash' menu entry .  What's a guy to do?
[04:35] <cotton> How can I fix the way the webpages look?
[04:35] <padee> jrib: no, thats the existing user...
[04:35] <Res> stittel: yeah... but is there any security update for 2000/nt/me or 98 ?? i really dont think so ..
[04:35] <spap> anything on how to enable skype videocall? does the linux version of skype support is?
[04:35] <cotton> sldkfj: Open the trash bin and click ctrl + E
[04:35] <stittel> Res: Windows 2000 should still be supportest, I think.
[04:35] <JC_Denton_> how can one tell whether the wireless interface it set to promiscuous mode?
[04:35] <jrib> padee: hmm that's kind of strange.  Were you ever able to login with that user?
[04:35] <cotton> or maybe it's alt + E
[04:36] <Res> stittel: and i really dont want to be "forced" into Vista ...
[04:36] <xtknight> spx2, you may need to register your nickname with NickServ if you have troubles private messaging me
[04:36] <padee> jrib: im working on it
[04:36] <spap> anything on how to enable skype videocall? does the linux version of skype support is?
[04:36] <jpjacobs> spap, there's ekiga... (standard in ubuntu)
[04:36] <spx2> xtknight: join #blabla11
[04:36] <spap> ok:)
[04:37] <stittel> spap: There is a new Skype version for Linux in the works.
[04:37] <cotton> Can anyone help me with my problem please
[04:37] <padee> jrib: at the moment i think i will reinstall the whole system...  the new user also loops
[04:37] <stittel> spap: While ekiga is great, it is not Skype compatible.
[04:37] <Res> stittel: and well on of the main reasons are that my system  now not as loud as a hoover... now it is a normal fan  :d
[04:37] <Ix0s> cotton, I think the text overlapping is firefox itself, and some stupid designers making sites for internet exporer only tbh
[04:37] <orbin> cotton: sometimes adblock can mess up the lining up of things.  in most cases i'd say it's because they've coded it for ie.
[04:37] <sldkfj> cotton, ahh, so that's the new feature, instead making the menu entry usable, ya have to Open it.
[04:37] <Res> stittel: and well beryl is really a nice toy :d
[04:37] <sldkfj> got cha
[04:37] <jrib> padee: I'm curious what happens if you install "kdm" and reboot to use that as your greeter?
[04:37] <Guest11549> anyone can listen pandora outside the US?
[04:37] <spap> thanks all of you!
[04:37] <stittel> Res: I've been using Linux for quite some time now, and I love it's flexibility, relly.
[04:37] <jrib> padee: or xdm
[04:38] <stittel> Res: But I think I love my Mac OS X even more. :)
[04:38] <Res> does anyone know witch prgram is better for ubuntu(70.4 GNOME) XChat or Konversation?
[04:38] <jrib> Res: the one that you like best
[04:38] <dromer> can someone help me find out what my recent kernel-panics (what someone else told me they where) of last week have been all about and how I can fix them?
[04:38] <vox754> !best
[04:38] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:38] <Res> jrib: ahh ok so there is not a big difference ?! :D thank you
[04:38] <Ix0s> Res, Xchat :)
[04:39] <Eli0t> oh my god! this lcd is killing me!
[04:39] <Guest11549> does anyone can listen pandora outside of US??????????????????????????????????????
[04:39] <jrib> !offtopic | Guest11549
[04:39] <ubotu> Guest11549: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:39] <Eli0t> when nv everything works but when nvidia its not supporting -.-
[04:39] <cotton> Ix0s, orbin, It doesn't happen in windows, and it's the same cirumstances
[04:39] <Eli0t> what can i do push that stupid lcd?
[04:40] <Ix0s> cotton, What were you using in windows? Firefox or IE?
[04:40] <cotton> Firefox Ix0s
[04:40] <doc__> anyone at uds ?
[04:40] <jpjacobs> uds?
[04:40] <Aryra> wow...1254 people in here
[04:40] <Res> stittel: hehe i am really fighting with myself, me  desktop system is getting crap and i tought aboubt spending my savings into a Mac system ...
[04:40] <DShepherd> Aryra: kool!
[04:40] <Eli0t> i tried diferent refresh rate and resolutions but it does nothing
[04:40] <alexpe> Hello, i have a .ts movie file and i would like to compress it into divx. is there a tool for that?
[04:40] <Res> stittel: that of cause wit OSX... or just upgrade the old system ..
[04:41] <stittel> Res: For the average user the Mac is the holy grail of computing.
[04:41] <max_harmony> Just a note for anyone in FL, meeting today in ubuntu-florida at 3
[04:41] <Aryra> stittel: average only.
[04:41] <jpjacobs> alexpe, take a look at mencoder (though i'm not sure whether it does divx)
[04:41] <stittel> Arja: Yes, Mac OS X isn't the most flexible OS in many parts.
[04:41] <padee> jrib: other question... how can i log on the other (not properly working) computer with my notebook. i am hooked up to a network with both machines...
[04:41] <Eli0t> (mplayer package)
[04:41] <redmonkey> what is the best way to play windows games (with and without directx) under linux?
[04:41] <stittel> Aryja: Like needing a $20 shareware to the mouse acceleration.
[04:42] <luisgmarine> redmonkey, cedega
[04:42] <Aryra> sittel: ouch
[04:42] <jrib> padee: you could use ssh
[04:42] <jrib> !ssh > padee (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:42] <shattered_dreams> i've seen people running syslog on their desktop
[04:42] <shattered_dreams> how is that done?
[04:42] <Aryra> anyways, I came in here because my screensavers aren't working...can anyone help?
[04:42] <jpjacobs> redmonkey, try wine (there's a list of working games on their site)
[04:42] <Eli0t> shattered_dreams: superkaramba or wth like that
[04:42] <redmonkey> ok, thanks
[04:43] <shattered_dreams> superkaramba..
[04:43] <jrib> shattered_dreams: maybe root-tail
[04:43] <jpjacobs> redmonkey, or if it are dos-classics, try dosbox ;)
[04:43] <cotton> Ix0s
[04:43] <shattered_dreams> root-tail might be the one
[04:43] <jrib> shattered_dreams: there's something similar that works as a panel applet but I forget the name
[04:43] <Ix0s> cotton, Dunno, its a little strange, most of the sites that have it for me are the ones coded for IE thats it, never had a problem
[04:44] <shattered_dreams> that would be cool jrib
[04:44] <nonlinear> i'm trying to configrure my network, it's dhcp but the installer isn't detecting it... is that normal?  i can configure it manually, and i can get everything except for the dhcp host name and the name server
[04:44] <skirk> Hi all, anyone can say me why when I open a playlist with BeepmediaPlayer I cant listen the songs 'cause it scrool up very fast?
[04:44] <cotton> oh
[04:44] <cotton> thanks anyway
[04:44] <Rio79> i having trouble being able to write to my ubuntu harddrive remotely from a windows pc. samba is installed with smb.conf configured to be writeable, shared folder is enabled with folder permissions set to 777.  what more is there?
[04:45] <orbin> cotton: try installing msttcorefonts
[04:45] <jpjacobs> skirk, i'd say the songs are not where the playlist says they are...
[04:45] <cotton> orbin: What's that?
[04:45] <Res> stittel: hehe well i still thinking ... and also tought about the new xbox ... .
[04:45] <DShepherd> i have mounted my harddrive. chrooted it.. how do i set it up so that i can launch gui apps? Text apps run fine. I get 'cannot open display:unset' when i try to run gui apps.
[04:45] <Dremth> Is there a way I can make it so my main menu icon in the taskbar can hang over the top like the icon in Windows Vista?
[04:46] <skirk> Uhm, shure jpjacobs I have format and I have change the name of other HD, thank, now I have remember that xD
[04:46] <jpjacobs> skirk, this happens often when a playlist get's made in windows (so there are windows paths in it) and then you try to have it work in linux (which expects linux-paths)
[04:46] <orbin> cotton: ms fonts.  they could be specifying them in the site.  you obviouslt have them in windows which is why you may not be seeing the same issue with FF in there.
[04:46] <ubuntu> hi all. i need ur help. i cannot create 4 primary partitions. i have an non allocated space.
[04:46] <stittel> Res: I'd buy a Mac. If you don't like it, you can install Windows or Linux without hassle anyway.
[04:46] <nonlinear> is there anyone here who can help me quick with a couple of wireless network quiestions?  or point me in the right direction?  thank
[04:46] <nonlinear> s
[04:46] <Aryra> ubuntu: this is in the installation?
[04:47] <padee> jrib: ssh connection refused
[04:47] <ubuntu> what do u mean
[04:47] <Res> stittel: but a may is not really ceap :D
[04:47] <jrib> padee: you need to setup the ssh server on your other system
[04:47] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, i don't know wheter X works in chroot, but try export DISPLAY="localhost:0"
[04:47] <padee> jrib: argh...
[04:47] <cotton> ah, thanks orbin
[04:47] <Aryra> ubuntu: where are you trying to do this? have you got ubuntu installed already, or are you altering partitions later on
[04:47] <jpjacobs> padee: apt-get install openssh-server
[04:47] <Mirage> xtknight: Oh yeah, I forgot. It also says "No working leases in persistend database - sleeping"
[04:48] <ubuntu> i have installed. now i need more space
[04:48] <orbin> cotton: try it and let us know :)
[04:48] <padee> jrib: how can i reconfigue the login? is this somehow possible?
[04:48] <ubuntu> i have many partitions
[04:48] <sampbar> hi all
[04:48] <carrasco> padee, install using apt-get install ssh  at 2 machines
[04:48] <stittel> Res: The only reason I don't have a Mac is, that I don't like their desktop offering except the Mac Pro. And the Mac Pro is overkill for me. :-/
[04:48] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: that didnt seem to help
[04:48] <Aryra> ubuntu: what are you using to try?
[04:48] <jrib> padee: you can do 'sudo aptitude purge gdm' and then sudo aptitude install gdm
[04:48] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, i guess it's just not possible...
[04:48] <Mirage> But I find it strange that it works when I restart, but not when trying to renew it manually
[04:48] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: :( .. news i dont want to hear
[04:48] <jpjacobs> what are you doing anyway in chroot
[04:49] <fetale> nubbie:I figured it out
[04:49] <Dquestions> idefixx,  check your pm msg
[04:49] <JC_Denton_> how can one tell whether the wireless interface it set to promiscuous mode?
[04:49] <shattered_dreams> jrib: how do i use this root-tail
[04:49] <shattered_dreams> it's not displaying
[04:49] <Res> stittel: hehe i love the desktop interface!!!  :D it looks just classic and stylisch :d
[04:49] <Eli0t> my friend has that problem: when turning on the instalator it prints "trying to enable frame buffer..." (hanging) with option fb=false it goes further but hanging on "detecting hardware" what can he do?
[04:49] <jrib> shattered_dreams: you have to tell nautilus not to show your desktop
[04:49] <typie> Can anyone help? My screen resolution keeps changing to 800x600 when I reboot the computer and it won't change back. I'm using Feisty.
[04:49] <shattered_dreams> jrib, can i do that just for one workspace?
[04:49] <ubuntu> actual i want to create a new partition to remove my home there
[04:49] <jpjacobs> Eli0t, i'd try checking the ram with memtest86+
[04:49] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: i want to lanch aptoncd so i can backup the apps that i have installed my harddrive wont boot any longer.. i can mount it though. and its making sounds (its dying)
[04:50] <jrib> shattered_dreams: not that I know of
[04:50] <Res> stittel: well and i am really lokng forward for age of conan therefore the system ugrad and the enemy Windoof.
[04:50] <Nubbie> fetale: what was it?
[04:50] <ubuntu> i have 35 gb non allocated space. i want to use it
[04:50] <Eli0t> jpjacobs: that pc has got 1gb ram and it works with mswin and mandriva well
[04:50] <shattered_dreams> how do i run nautils
[04:50] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, hmmm you can see if there are any packages left in /var/apt/cache
[04:50] <cotton> how do I kill firefox over terminal?
[04:50] <carrasco> typie, configure your xorg.conf to use only one resolution, but before make a backup of the xorg.conf
[04:50] <Nubbie> ubuntu: gparted.
[04:50] <stittel> Res: Mac OS X has no "maximize" button BTW. :)
[04:50] <fetale> Nubbie:it was an improper tag for x-screensaver
[04:50] <Nubbie> cotton: sudo killall firefox-bin
[04:51] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: yeah... not much is there.. i think
[04:51] <typie> Can anyone help me?
[04:51] <jpjacobs> Eli0t, working windows does not mean sane (rather the reverse ;))
[04:51] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: checking now
[04:51] <jrib> shattered_dreams: it's already running, but to stop it from showing your desktop, go to gconf-editor and uncheck /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[04:51] <fetale> Nubbie:all I did was change my .xinitrc file around
[04:51] <ubuntu> i use gparted
[04:51] <ubuntu> but what i have to do
[04:51] <Nubbie> ubuntu: man gparted <-- run that
[04:51] <typie> Anybody?
[04:51] <carrasco> cotton, killall firefox-bin
[04:51] <jpjacobs> !helpme>typie
[04:51] <ironcladlou> i'm having some conceptual difficulty making the distinction between gnome the desktop environment and metacity the WM. is it possible to use "gnome" with another window manager (like, fluxbox, icewm, etc)? how do you do such a thing?
[04:51] <ubuntu> its running
[04:51] <Nubbie> !patience typie
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience typie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <Nubbie> ugh.
[04:51] <cotton> thanks I got it
[04:52] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: 75 packages.. and must are just lib stuff..
[04:52] <Eli0t> jpjacobs: but one time it went to 6% in hardware detecting after 10mins, it looks like its going very slow, may it be bad mem?
[04:52] <ubuntu> and then?
[04:52] <shattered_dreams> and i suppose i have to restart gdm after that jrib?
[04:52] <krokodilflecken> hello
[04:52] <carrasco> cotton, firefox killed?
[04:52] <jrib> shattered_dreams: nope, shouldn't need to
[04:52] <ironcladlou> for instance, i've installed fluxbox, and noticed that in gdm i can choose between "Gnome" and "Fluxbox" as a "session". But how does that make any sense? I thought Gnome was a desktop environment, while fluxbox is a WM.
[04:52] <krokodilflecken> I just had my linux cherry popped, as it were
[04:52] <typie> !helpme>typie
[04:52] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: it wouldn't really be gnome then... it would be gnome running another window manager inside it.
[04:53] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, there is some list of installed software, second, i'll look where it should be
[04:53] <jpjacobs> Eli0t, badram can behave quite eratically
[04:53] <ubuntu> i have started gparted.
[04:53] <Res> stittel: well that is really bad.. ahhh do you how how to config the Windows button between STRAG and ALT?
[04:53] <orbin> krokodilflecken: was it good for you? :P
[04:53] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: what about compiz/beryl then? when you use those, gnome still appears to be "gnome"
[04:53] <Eli0t> jpjacobs: ok, we are gonna do memtest, thx
[04:53] <carrasco> typie, did you try to configure your xorg.conf to use only one resolution?
[04:53] <stittel> Res: Using xmodmap.
[04:53] <typie> Errr.. no?
[04:54] <sampbar> ^^ typie is totally new to ubuntu!
[04:54] <typie> I'm new to Ubuntu, I don't know how :D
[04:54] <padee> jrib: i got this message: invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed
[04:54] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: its the same thing. its beryl running on top of gnome.
[04:54] <stittel> Res: But I hope there is a GNOME tool using xmodmap where you can set the settings you want graphically (for KDE there is).
[04:54] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: so why is it not possible to use another WM within gnome and still maintain the overall gnome experience (whatever that is, i guess)
[04:54] <stittel> Res: Because using xmodmap by hand is not so easy.
[04:54] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: or is it possible and i am just ignorant about how to accomplish it
[04:54] <jrib> padee: when you purged or when you installed?
[04:54] <stittel> Res: Ask one of the GNOME users if there is such a graphical tool for GNOME.
[04:54] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: because it's the new WM which change the gnome look.
[04:55] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, you can use this to write out a list of installed software: "dpkg --get-selections > <somefile>"
[04:55] <Eli0t> typie: someone told me:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:55] <carrasco> typie, so, configure your xorgconf
[04:55] <stittel> Res: Personally I use an US keyboard layout so I use the Windows key as "Compose" to easily get German Umlauts and other special characters.
[04:55] <Eli0t> there is everything
[04:55] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: i guess i am just unclear as to what it is gnome actually does and how much of the WM is responsible for defining my desktop environment
[04:55] <Dremth> Is there a way I can make it so my main menu icon in the taskbar can hang over the top like the icon in Windows Vista?
[04:55] <typie> carrasco: how?
[04:55] <idefixx> Dquestions: i did :)
[04:55] <jpjacobs> Dremth, do you even want to have ubuntu look like vista _0
[04:55] <erUSUL> typie: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:56] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: is gnome really a "thing", or just a set of libraries and possibly some daemons to let apps interact (dbus etc)
[04:56] <Res> stittel: ok thanks
[04:56] <ubuntu> /dev/sda1               1        1020     8193118+  12  Compaq diagnostics
[04:56] <ubuntu> /dev/sda2   *        1021        5140    33091617+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:56] <ubuntu> /dev/sda3           10240       14855    37076161    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:56] <ubuntu> /dev/sda4            5141       10239    40957717+   5  Extended
[04:56] <ubuntu> /dev/sda5            5141       10024    39230698+  83  Linux
[04:56] <Dremth> jpjacobs, I want it to resemble it.
[04:56] <ubuntu> /dev/sda6           10025       10239     1726956   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:56] <carrasco> typie, are you using ubuntu,kubuntu, or xubuntu?
[04:56] <Nubbie> !paste | ubuntu
[04:56] <sampbar> ubuntu
[04:56] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:56] <padee> jrib: after installing
[04:56] <jpjacobs> Dremth, just kidding ;)
[04:57] <jrib> padee: try this: sudo invoke-rc.d stop   followed by  sudo invoke-rc.d start
[04:57] <ubuntu> who can help me
[04:57] <ubuntu> please
[04:57] <ironcladlou> like, what i see right now in the System->Preferences menu.... is all that stuff accessible and applicable regardless of what WM i'm using?
[04:57] <stittel> ubuntu: What is your problem?
[04:57] <jrib> padee: oops, try this: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop   followed by  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[04:57] <ubuntu> i can do nothing
[04:57] <Dremth> jpjacobs, Do you happen to know the answer to my question? Or even if it's possible? I know how to get a custom icon but not how to get it to hang over
[04:57] <typie> I tried the command
[04:57] <amigrave> is it possible to use the ubuntu install cd in order to boot on a hard drive ubuntu partition
[04:57] <ubuntu> did u see my partitons
[04:57] <typie> I've got some blue screen up
[04:57] <Res> stittel: is there such a bit diffence between KDE and Gnome
[04:57] <ubuntu> i have boot it from cd
[04:57] <eXistenz> when I click the right arrow in the terminal, I get the sign ^[[D instead of moving. How can I fix it?
[04:57] <jpjacobs> Dremth, it's not possible by default afaik
[04:58] <carrasco> typie, are you mad???
[04:58] <typie> Yes :)
[04:58] <typie> I'm an ubuntu noob
[04:58] <Nubbie> eXistenz: you don't.
[04:58] <ubuntu> i have an non allocated space. u now?
[04:58] <Dremth> jpjacobs, afaik?
[04:58] <krokodilflecken> can anyone help me install Flash?
[04:58] <ubuntu> i will use it
[04:58] <stittel> Res: Hm.. well... it very much depends on taste. GNOME focussed on simplicity whereas KDE is more like a feature-horse.
[04:58] <carrasco> typie, I know
[04:58] <jpjacobs> as far as i know
[04:58] <Nubbie> ubuntu: use gparted.
[04:58] <jrib> !flash > krokodilflecken (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:58] <eXistenz> Nubbie: then what?
[04:58] <ubuntu> i use it
[04:58] <typie> carrasco, so, any ideas?
[04:58] <psst> eXistenz - what is the value of your TERM env var?
[04:58] <thedj> anyone got experience with devicemapper and evms ?
[04:59] <stittel> ubuntu: Bluescreen on Linux?
[04:59] <krokodilflecken> thanks
[04:59] <ubuntu> but it doesn work
[04:59] <thedj> i'm getting device-mapper errors after feisty fawn update
[04:59] <stittel> Res: Personally I tried GNOME for a few month 2 years ago and didn't like it at all. I am very happy with KDe.
[04:59] <ubuntu> i dont have a bluesreen
[04:59] <carrasco> typie, did you make that I saw?
[04:59] <thedj> can i disable dm or somethign ?
[04:59] <Nubbie> ubuntu: why don't you tell people how it's not working.
[04:59] <eXistenz> psst: It occurs only when I run mathematica
[04:59] <stittel> Res: But that doesn't mean that GNOME is bad, it's a matter of taste after all.
[04:59] <typie> carrasco, no
[04:59] <Res> stittel: like in windows Xp home and Xp professional but way better
[04:59] <jpjacobs> stittel, it was typie, and i guess it was debconf ...
[04:59] <Nubbie> stittel: lots changed in 2 years.
[04:59] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: is there any way that i can differentiate the apps that were installed on ubuntu by default versus the apps that I installed..
[04:59] <eXistenz> psst: xterm
[04:59] <psst> eXistenz: you paid for Mathmatica?
[04:59] <Res> stittel: than windows...
[05:00] <ubuntu> i have 4 primary partions
[05:00] <eXistenz> psst: I guess so
[05:00] <jaba246> #xbins
[05:00] <ubuntu> i cannot create a new one
[05:00] <Nubbie> ubuntu: make an extended one then.
[05:00] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, well you could compare it with the list on the livecd , or on a fresh install
[05:00] <psst> eXistenz: they should support it then!
[05:00] <carrasco> typie, so, do it?
[05:00] <carrasco> typie, so, do it
[05:00] <typie> carrasco, do what? :)
[05:00] <ubuntu> how can i do it
[05:00] <Nubbie> ubuntu: see how if you actually state your problem, you get a solution.
[05:00] <Dremth> Is there a way to get a custom main menu icon size without resizing the whole task bar?
[05:00] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: hmmm.. good point
[05:00] <psst> eXistenz: I've found their site very helpful for all sorts of things
[05:00] <stittel> Res: Hm, well, KDE and GNOME also use different toolkits (Qt vs. GTK2) and ship with a lot of different standard applications.
[05:01] <typie> i'm totally confused
[05:01] <carrasco> typie, what distribution are you using?
[05:01] <typie> ubuntu
[05:01] <typie> feisty
[05:01] <ubuntu> how can i create a extended partition
[05:01] <stittel> Res: Actually I think they really are quite different.
[05:01] <stittel> Res: Also XFCE is worth a look.
[05:01] <ironcladlou> i've used xubuntu/xfce before on this machine, and the UI responsiveness and redrawing was actually comparable to windows. gnome/metacity on the other hand are almost intolerably slow. i was wondering if it was just a matter of window manager.... so it is possible to use something like the xfce WM and also use the gnome DE in the same way that one expects it in a stock ubuntu setup?
[05:01] <Nubbie> xfce is cool on old computers.
[05:01] <carrasco> typie, ok, type in your terminal as root: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:01] <Res> stittel: ohh well i just got the half of what you said because i just use ubuntu since the new release.. but i think i am getting the point :D
[05:02] <Res> stitel: ok... i gotta go, again thanks for the well discriped help and the pacient hope to see you soon again :D
[05:02] <typie> carrasco, done that
[05:02] <stittel> Res: If you feel like experimenting some time, just install "kubuntu-desktop".
[05:02] <perce> ciao ho problemi audio con la versione 7.04 di ubuntu qualcuno sa come aiutarmi?
[05:02] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: why are we comparing to windows... windows that was released 6 years ago vs ubuntu released last month on your old hardware isn't a fair comparison.
[05:02] <stittel> Res: This will give you a full-blown KDE desktop on Ubuntu, so you can try out if you like it.
[05:02] <perce> #ubuntu-it
[05:02] <ubuntu> how can i create a extended partition?
[05:02] <amigamia> i have an external Backpack CD-Rewriter, will ubuntu be able to access this? it uses the 25pin serial port.
[05:02] <carrasco> typie, ok, I would like to see your xorg.conf
[05:02] <stittel> Res: See ya!
[05:02] <typie> Surely I shouldn't paste it in here, it's too big
[05:03] <Nubbie> !repeat > ubuntu
[05:03] <Dremth> ~~~~  Is there a way to make a custom right click menu item that runs a command when I right click on any folder icon or an empty folder space?
[05:03] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: have you ever used aptoncd... ?? it just smart enough to know the apps that we instaled by me.. (*wonders how it works*)
[05:03] <sethk> ubuntu, with fdisk, or any of the other partitioning tools
[05:03] <Res> stittel: ok thanks for the information!
[05:03] <DShepherd> s/we/were
[05:03] <whyameye> ironcladlou: I'm surprised to hear the windows was faster. On my machine it is much slower. Could this be a video driver issue?
[05:03] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, never even heard of it
[05:03] <Nubbie> DShepherd: probably reads .desktop files.
[05:04] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: well, i'm not sure it's as apples-to-oranges as you make it out to be. even kwin performs closer to windows on my "old hardware" that gnome/metacity. and i've been trying these things on and off for years with the same results
[05:04] <carrasco> type, I know, but exist a site that you may paste texts whit more of the 3 lins
[05:04] <ironcladlou> whyameye: absolutely not a driver issue
[05:04] <DShepherd> Nubbie: hmm... apps that come to ubuntu by default are tagged or something?
[05:04] <krokodilflecken> if I want to run something under WINE that needs flash, would I have to re-install Flash under WINE?
[05:04] <ubuntu> sethk: but i have 4 partitons. that is the problem. then tell me please how i can do it
[05:04] <swhalen> hello. How do i get a list of devices IRQs
[05:04] <whyameye> krokodilflecken: yes.
[05:05] <krokodilflecken> thanks
[05:05] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: i'm very surprised you find kwin performs better than GTK.
[05:05] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, you can have a look in the manpage of dpkg
[05:05] <ironcladlou> i like the way gnome/metacity look and feel, i just can't deal with the overall unresponsiveness of the UI. i was just looking for some way around it through a WM swap or something
[05:05] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[05:05] <ubuntu> can someone talk german?
[05:05] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: ok i will do that.. was there just a second ago
[05:05] <jpjacobs> !de >ubuntu
[05:05] <typie> carra, should I paste it to you in PM?
[05:05] <neptoon> ubuntu: ja
[05:06] <ubuntu> jpjacobs: hi kannst du mir helfen
[05:06] <alexpe> jpjacobs, mencoder did the work, do you know a program to edit movie files? (cut sequences...)
[05:06] <ubuntu> also
[05:06] <ubuntu> noch mal
[05:06] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: I don't think KDE overall performs better than Gnome, but kwin is absolutely a more responsive UI experience than metacity in my experience on various machines. i have no idea if this is a factor of using metacity with gnome or what. i never tried to use kwin without kde, for instance (is that even possible?)
[05:06] <Nubbie> ubuntu: english?
[05:06] <jd823592> Anybody: need to install libstdc++.so.5 ...how can i do it through Terminal PLZ
[05:06] <padee> jrib: it didnt change anything
[05:06] <whyameye> ironcladlou: and you see this same unresponsiveness on other machines (besides your own) running Gnome/Metacity?
[05:06] <Dremth> ~~~~  Is there a way to make a custom right click menu item that runs a command when I right click on any folder icon or an empty folder space?
[05:06] <usser> jd823592: install g++
[05:06] <typie> carrasco, I paste it to you in PM?
[05:06] <jrib> padee: see if it happens with kdm
[05:07] <ubuntu> ich habe mehrere partionen. ich auch ein nicht zugeteilte partition. wie kann ich es zu teilen nutzen
[05:07] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: thats definitely just your perception then, because i think the majority would agree that gnome runs faster than KDE.
[05:07] <jrib> !de | ubuntu
[05:07] <jd823592> usser: how?
[05:07] <ubotu> ubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:07] <soc> checkinstall builds packages with /usr/bin/ld, /usr/bin/strip and /usr/bin/gcc thats not right, idn't it?
[05:07] <soc> since feisty
[05:07] <usser> jd823592: sudo apt-get install g++
[05:08] <krokodilflecken> how do I convince adobe to let me d/l flash for Windows? It autodetects that I'm on Linux
[05:08] <DeTlEfF> where can i put fonts in?? f.eg. tahoma
[05:08] <jd823592> oh yeah ..thx
[05:08] <jpjacobs> ubuntu, ubotu is a bot... just go to #ubuntu-de, i don't (actively) speak german myself
[05:08] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: well, i am certainly not going to speak as to what the majority believes or doesn't believe. i just want to know how the heck i can try another WM but retain the gnome feel
[05:08] <jrib> padee: and can you try 'cat /home/your_user/.xsession-errors' it's very unlikely your user doesn't have that file
[05:08] <Nubbie> krokodilflecken: if you're running linux, why do you want windows flash?
[05:08] <krokodilflecken> I have a windows program I want to run under WINE which uses flash for its main menu
[05:09] <jpjacobs> alexpe, there is cinelarra, or kino
[05:09] <Ix0s> krokodilflecken, All you should need is flash player then?
[05:09] <krokodilflecken> well
[05:09] <krokodilflecken> I tried that
[05:09] <krokodilflecken> and get this message:
[05:09] <alexpe> jpjacobs, thanks
[05:09] <whyameye> so ubuntu is abandoning ppc support, huh? :-(
[05:09] <GMWeezel> What bash command could I use to only display one line of output from grep?
[05:09] <jrib> !ppc > whyameye (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:10] <jpjacobs> GMWeezel, head in combination with tail
[05:10] <krokodilflecken> fatal error: Thingavore requires flash to be installed for its main menu. It is actually incredible you don't already have it.
[05:10] <GMWeezel> jpjacobs: What does that man?
[05:10] <ironcladlou> like, if i enable compiz/beryl, i still have a taskbar and menu bar with network manager, the gnome menu, all of that stuff in the place i expect it, the same as it is when using metacity. is this because those things are properties of gnome itself, or is it because compiz/beryl are intentionally mimicking metacity in those respects?
[05:10] <BrowneR> krokodilflecken maybe you need internet explorer installed under wine: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[05:11] <krokodilflecken> thanks
[05:11] <jrib> GMWeezel: or something like sed -n '5p'   to print line 5
[05:11] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: beryl/compiz just don't go over gnome's head by running extra panels and stuff.
[05:11] <ironcladlou> because if they were properties of the desktop environment, i'd expect them to be there when i fire up that fluxbox session -- but they are not
[05:11] <Taras> crap... how do i get web pages to print in linux/
[05:11] <Taras> ?
[05:11] <Morpheus_74> Help!  I recently changed the security on my wireless router to WPA, was set to WEP before.  Now, I cannot gain network access.  I went to networking, but the only option is plain or hexidedcimal for the password, and this encription uses a phrase.
[05:11] <jd823592> how to move Directories by console (allowing overwriting)?
[05:11] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: because bery/compiz aren't full blown desktop environments as Gnome KDE or XFCE are.
[05:11] <jpjacobs> GMWeezel, head displays the -n first lines, and if you pipe that trough tail -n 1 you just get the fifth line... (as it takes the last line)
[05:12] <GMWeezel> jpjacobs: alright; thanks
[05:12] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: so how can i simply replace metacity with fluxbox or whatever WM i want the same way compiz/beryl can
[05:12] <jpjacobs> jd823592, just mv <from> <to>
[05:13] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: you could start gnome and then run fluxbox.
[05:13] <jpjacobs> jd823592, but be warned there is no undo...
[05:13] <vanberge> anybody tell me the proper way to add a new IDE device (DVD burner)
[05:13] <Nubbie> ironcladlou: it may have a --replace function to keep metacity from starting again.
[05:13] <vanberge> i added the hardware, it is detected... do i have to edit fstab, etc ?
[05:13] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: ah ha!
[05:13] <ironcladlou> Nubbie: let me give this a shot...
[05:13] <Nubbie> vanberge: you might.
[05:14] <cotton> sudo apt-get moo
[05:14] <usser> vanberge: is it a dvd? then most likely u're done
[05:14] <Nubbie> !info moo
[05:14] <ubotu> Package moo does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:14] <jpjacobs> cotton, try aptitude it's better
[05:14] <Nrbelex> If I download the Pidgin package from SF, will the update manager keep track of it?
[05:14] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: seemingly nothing useful in the man pages dpkg
[05:14] <|ericsson|> sudo aptitude -v moo
[05:14] <jd823592> ok thx jpjacobs
[05:14] <usser> vanberge: try using it
[05:14] <vanberge> Nubbie,  usser  the reason i'm asking is because it only mounts dvd's like 1 out of 8 inserts
[05:14] <padee> jrib: ill try it.. one sec... restarting again...
[05:15] <|ericsson|> and ubotu is wrong, there still are moo's in there ;)
[05:15] <Nubbie> Nrbelex: if you configure it with nm support.
[05:15] <jpjacobs> DShepherd, then i would try comparing them... diff should be able to cope with that
[05:15] <cotton> lol
[05:15] <Morpheus_74> Help!  I recently changed the security on my wireless router to WPA, was set to WEP before.  Now, I cannot gain network access.  I went to networking, but the only option is plain or hexidecimal for the password, and this encryption uses a phrase.
[05:15] <usser> vanberge: hm would know much about it
[05:15] <krokodilflecken> about http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation: the instructions seem to be for edgy, and I'm on feisty
[05:15] <cotton> it is better
[05:15] <Guest11549> does enyone knows a simple guide to configure sendmail ???????
[05:15] <Nrbelex> Nubbie, what does that mean???
[05:15] <Nubbie> Morpheus_74: plain = phrase
[05:15] <|ericsson|> Guest11549: man sendmail?
[05:16] <usser> krokodilflecken: they still will work
[05:16] <Guest11549> |ericsson| wow I didn't think it! :=)
[05:16] <Nubbie> Nrbelex: if you configure pidgin with network manager support, it will use it.
[05:16] <usser> krokodilflecken: but im not sure ies4linux gonna give flash to your wine
[05:16] <id10t> 'lo all...
[05:16] <krokodilflecken> k
[05:16] <Morpheus_74> Nubbie: I tried both plain and hexi, maybe I typed it wrong.  I'll try it again.  Thanks.
[05:16] <BrowneR> Morpheus_74 you need to investigate wpa_supplicant
[05:16] <Nrbelex> Nubbie, how does one enable nm support?
[05:16] <usser> krokodilflecken: it creates another wine virtual dir in your home dir independent of the original one
[05:16] <|ericsson|> Guest11549: you could also try: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?hl=en&q=configuring+sendmail&btnG=Google+Search
[05:17] <erUSUL> Guest11549: never used a mta but i've heard that sendmail is the harder to configure... try postfix (default in ubuntu) or exim
[05:17] <id10t> i have some p2-400 machines wiht 512mb of ram and 32mb nvidia vid cards... but I can't install ubuntu on 'em without a kernel panic, even with turning off acpi, etc.
[05:17] <Nubbie> nrbelex: do ./configure --help i don't know i didn't compile my pidgin from source.
[05:17] <id10t> can i install from another machine and just move the drive over?
[05:17] <BrowneR> !wpa_supplicant | Morpheus_74
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Nubbie> id10t: if the hardware is the same.
[05:17] <Guest11549> |ericsson| ok thank you for your support ;)
[05:17] <Nubbie> id10t: like exactly the same.
[05:18] <Dremth> How can I make a custom menu item for the right click menu that runs a command when I right click on a folder icon or in empty folder space?
[05:18] <|ericsson|> Guest11549: not much of support, for of providing information to read-kind-of-thing ;)
[05:18] <id10t> Nubbie how hw dependant is the install? i've moved a slack system from a 486 to a pentium to a amd to a p2 with no issues...
[05:18] <Nubbie> !wpa | Morpheus_74
[05:18] <ubotu> Morpheus_74: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:18] <shawn34> Help! I'm setting up localpurge, should i select en_US? or all en?
[05:18] <xtknight> why are my kernel images coming out to be >200M when i'm on a release, non-developmental branch of Feisty?
[05:18] <BrowneR> Dremth you could write a nautilus script to do that
[05:18] <BrowneR> Dremth try searching the web for a guide
[05:18] <MWS5029759387346> anyone else having pidgin problems?.. using windows right now.
[05:18] <foz> i upgraded to ubuntu 7.04 and opera will not work now any1 got any answers pls
[05:19] <padee> jrib: allright, its like that: the user, who logs in automatically doesnt have the xsession-file, the other ones do
[05:19] <Dremth> BrowneR, ok thanks for responding since no one else anywhere does!
[05:19] <shawn34> foz, completely remove opera, then reinstall it
[05:19] <Nubbie> MWS5029759387346: this is a help channel, everybody has problems.
[05:19] <BrowneR> Dremth what command do you wish to run against it? There may be a script already written
[05:19] <jrib> padee: ok, can you pastebin the one for you new user?  That one is likely to be uncluttered
[05:19] <DShepherd> jpjacobs: ok.. there maybe something in the .desktop files that can help me too.. I am going to give that a looksee
[05:20] <jrib> padee: and did kdm not work or you did not try yet?
[05:20] <foz> ive tried that and reinstalled it and it stu
[05:20] <padee> jrib: i didnt try kdm
[05:20] <foz> still will not work
[05:20] <stittel> MWS5029759387346: What are your problems?
[05:20] <Dremth> BrowneR, I want to make something that will open a root shell at the location I click while browsing with my filemanager
[05:21] <MWS5029759387346> stittel:  nevermind
[05:21] <netiti> hi
[05:21] <Nubbie> lol?
[05:21] <fdubru> Hello
[05:21] <padee> jrib: and the new user doesnt have a xsession file as well...
[05:21] <padee> jrib: strange
[05:21] <netiti> did any one know the error here??
[05:21] <BrowneR> Dremth ah ok i have a script to open a shell in the current directory, it could be easily modified to open a root shell
[05:21] <netiti> http://www.dm3t.com/uploads/d5f968ca72.png
[05:21] <BrowneR> Dremth let me find you a link...
[05:21] <ironcladlou> if a WM doesn't have a --replace option (like fluxbox and windowmaker), how can i shut down whatever's running and load the new one without logging out?
[05:21] <Dremth> BrowneR, Cool thanks!
[05:22] <netiti> http://www.dm3t.com/uploads/399a6dff98.png
[05:22] <BrowneR> Dremth there are some on this page that may suit: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-executing.php
[05:22] <jrib> padee: hmm probably won't be helpful then.  Try kdm
[05:22] <fdubru> Not sure how all this works. First time I loaded Linux on a machine. I just have a screen resultion problem and looking for some help.
[05:22] <fdubru> ANy idea where I can get some?
[05:22] <Nubbie> netiti: don't use 3rd party packages if you don't want to worry about dependancy problems.
[05:22] <stittel> netiti: It seems like libfontconfi1 is not part of your apt sources.
[05:22] <savetheWorld> fdubru: right here
[05:22] <jrib> fdubru: right here, just ask your question/state your problem
[05:22] <Taras> I need some more help
[05:23] <Taras> how do i get my printer to work
[05:23] <erUSUL> ironcladlou: disable de restart behavior in System>Preferences>Session and then start the new wm
[05:23] <stittel> netiti: Which is strange, because libfontconfig1 is in main.
[05:23] <netiti> thnx NUBBE
[05:23] <fdubru> I loaded Ubuntu 7.4 on my IBM thinkpad A22p
[05:23] <fdubru> Max resolution is 800x600 though
[05:23] <Nubbie> !res | fdubru
[05:24] <ubotu> fdubru: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:24] <stittel> Nubbie: I totally agree with you, but libfontconfi1 should be there. It can only be a problem with differeny versions.
[05:24] <eat_static> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf fdubru
[05:24] <Spee_Der> is it needed to have the wacom driver in xorg.conf if I do not have a tablet, or does this somehow affect the mouse also please ?
[05:24] <stittel> Spee_Der: You don't need it.
[05:24] <Spee_Der> Thank you.
[05:24] <Nubbie> netiti: maybe you need a -dev package installed.
[05:24] <SmileY__> question: what is command for removing non empty directories ?
[05:24] <fdubru> ok thanks, I will read the article
[05:24] <fdubru> thanks for the tip
[05:25] <Nubbie> SmileY__: rmdir
[05:25] <eat_static> rmdir SmileY__
[05:25] <stittel> Nubbie: That can't be.
[05:25] <jrib> SmileY__: rm -r
[05:25] <BrowneR> SmileY__: use rm -R <dir>
[05:25] <SmileY__> thx
[05:25] <SmileY__> rm -r
[05:25] <SmileY__> ;)
[05:25] <RapidStorm> hey all
[05:25] <stittel> netiti: Please go to console and try to install your package with "sudo aptitude install packagename". This will give us a more verbose output.
[05:25] <flyingyellowpig> Hi there
[05:25] <Taras> can i even install anything to use my printer in live CD?
[05:25] <Nubbie> SmileY__: oh sorry i thought you meant the directory WAS empty lol. yeah use rm -R /dir/
[05:26] <jd823592> and renaming directory?
[05:26] <jd823592> what command for renaming dir
[05:26] <SmileY__> bye now
[05:26] <jpjacobs> jd823592, mv ...
[05:26] <flyingyellowpig> I would ask you guys if can i install Ubuntu and Kubuntu on same laptop without any conflict?
[05:26] <BrowneR> flyingyellowpig should be fine
[05:26] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: Why would you want to do that?
[05:26] <eat_static> flyingyellowpig why?
[05:26] <Nubbie> Taras: System > Administration > Printer set it up there, unless there are no drivers for your printer, it should work no problem.
[05:26] <jd823592> mv used for renaming??????
[05:26] <flyingyellowpig> Because i like them both
[05:27] <eat_static> yes jd823592
[05:27] <usser> jd823592: mv oldname newname
[05:27] <Taras> ok thanks
[05:27] <jpjacobs> jd823592, indeed mv oldname newname
[05:27] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: Ubuntu and Kububtu are exactly the same distribution just with a different set of preinstalled packages. Otherwise there is no difference.
[05:27] <BrowneR> flyingyellowpig just make sure you allocate your partitions correctly, you can share a swap partition between them
[05:27] <jpjacobs> lol
[05:27] <Nubbie> flyingyellowpig: just install ubuntu, and after install kubuntu-desktop package.
[05:27] <jd823592> but it moves OLDNAME under THE NEWNAME isnt it? /newname/oldname
[05:27] <kaptnemo> Ello
[05:27] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: Just install the package "kubuntu-desktop" on your Ubuntu or "ubuntu-desktop" on Kubuntu and you will have both.
[05:28] <eat_static> only if there is a directory named oldname
[05:28] <jd823592> ok i will trust you ...
[05:28] <jpjacobs> no... oldname shouldnt be there (i mean in the dir)
[05:28] <eat_static> i mean newname
[05:28] <jpjacobs> jd823592, see man mv
[05:28] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: There really is absolutely no point in making two seperate installations.
[05:28] <flyingyellowpig> ok,because one my desktop pc i am having problems with the sound and graphic card
[05:28] <BrowneR> jd823592 you need to be careful if you have a trailing "/" after the dir name
[05:28] <kaptnemo> so I'm attempting to edit my fstab and when attempting to save I get an error "unable to open file to write" wtf does that mean?
[05:28] <eat_static> it means you need to be root
[05:28] <usser> kaptnemo: run the editor as root
[05:28] <Emiel_> !sudo | kaptnemo
[05:28] <eat_static> su root kaptnemo
[05:28] <ubotu> kaptnemo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:28] <kirkunit> jd823592: you don't want a trailing slash on newname
[05:28] <kaptnemo> I went into the terminal and did su and switched to root (near as I can tell)
[05:28] <padee> jrib: ej, it takes ages to install kdm... is it that big?
[05:28] <jpjacobs> kaptnemo, you can only write it when using sudo
[05:29] <Taras> thanks, works fine... except im out of paper
[05:29] <Nubbie> eat_static: you shouldn't use su root.
[05:29] <eat_static> Nubbie why not?
[05:29] <Nubbie> eat_static: because sudo is much safer?
[05:29] <jrib> padee: probably pulls in kde, maybe I should have suggested xdm.  But just leave it now I suppose
[05:29] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: These issues are surely not a question of running Ubuntu or Kubuntu.
[05:29] <kekko_> where would log for packages that fail to execute (for whatever reson) go ?
[05:29] <speedo_> hi guys
[05:29] <flyingyellowpig> It just changed the screen size by itself ,is there any support for matrox graphic cards on linux?
[05:29] <eat_static> why Nubbie
[05:30] <Nubbie> eat_static: that, and you know, root accounts are disabled by default in ubuntu.....
[05:30] <usser> kekko_: to stdout
[05:30] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: What card do you have?
[05:30] <usser> kekko_: to stderr rather
[05:30] <eat_static> i dont use ubuntu :)
[05:30] <usser> kekko_: your konsole
[05:30] <flyingyellowpig> matrox
[05:30] <Nubbie> eat_static: then why are you here?
[05:30] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: Which one?
[05:30] <kekko_> usser:  no .log created at all?
[05:30] <eat_static> must i leave?
[05:30] <flyingyellowpig> Matrox G450
[05:30] <speedo_> does exist any ubuntu based rescue distro?
[05:30] <Nubbie> eat_static: you definitely shouldn't be giving people advice if you don't even use it. thats all i'm saying.
[05:30] <flyingyellowpig> well,it's a old pc
[05:31] <RapidStorm> im d/l ubantu now and my hdd has only got 1 partition is there a way to partition the drive w/o 4matting???
[05:31] <Nubbie> eat_static: by all means stay.
[05:31] <BrowneR> flyingyellowpig: i believe there are kernel drivers for matrox cards but i'm not sure about acceleration
[05:31] <flyingyellowpig> I am using AMD Duron and Matrox G450 graphic crad
[05:31] <Nubbie> RapidStorm: are you using windows right now?
[05:31] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: Looks very supported to me.
[05:31] <kaptnemo> ok so I've done the su root command and entered my password 5 diff times now and I still can't get myfstab to save...
[05:32] <Kemurii> hi, anyone got nss_updatedb working?
[05:32] <usser> kekko_: well its supposed to go somewhere, im not sure where, but when u run from terminal all error msgs will be there
[05:32] <flyingyellowpig> I don't need it for games ,i just want it back to 1024 x 840 ,now is 800 x 640.And it sucks
[05:32] <RapidStorm> Nubbie: win xp pro SP2
[05:32] <Jitenz> anyone for help to beginners
[05:32] <Nubbie> rapidstorm: after you download/burn the cd, defragment your drive. then run the ubuntu cd, and partition the drive so that there is free space trailing the partition, then create a new partition in that free space.
[05:32] <Jitenz> ?
[05:32] <stittel> flyingyellowpig: Which driver are you using?
[05:32] <Nubbie> RapidStorm: it is very important you defragment your drive though.
[05:32] <Jitenz> i can't create an ADSL connection
[05:32] <JC_Denton_> even with my wifi card set in promiscuous mode and wireshark to capture in promisc mode what does one need to do to view the packets "in the air" ?
[05:33] <eat_static> ubuntu installer can resize partitions???
[05:33] <kekko_> usser: thx
[05:33] <BrowneR> Jitenz: are you using a ehternet modem? or usb?
[05:33] <kaptnemo> ok so I've done the su root command and entered my password 5 diff times now and I still can't get myfstab to save...
[05:33] <Jitenz> NIC
[05:33] <flyingyellowpig> I don't know i think now is a mga
[05:33] <Jitenz> no modem
[05:33] <krokodilflecken> OK so I just did as someone suggested and installed IE
[05:33] <krokodilflecken> now WINE is gone :/
[05:33] <BrowneR> Jitenz: ok so you have a router. does ubuntu detect your NIC?
[05:33] <Nubbie> kaptnemo: he gave you bad information. use sudo gedit /your/file/here
[05:33] <kekko_> i need to resize partition from the shell.any suggestion?
[05:33] <kaptnemo> thank you
[05:34] <Furthur> I just installed pidgin from getdebs and uninstalled gaim. but I can still open gaim... it seems as though synaptics left the binaries in /usr/bin
[05:34] <killerbunny> Where do i change was is in the right mouse click menu ? I got "Change desktop background" right now, but would like to add other programs
[05:34] <Nubbie> kaptnemo: no problem.
[05:34] <Jitenz> yes. it does detect my nic
[05:34] <flyingyellowpig> how do i look which drivers i am using?
[05:34] <stittel> Furthur: Reinstall Gaim.
[05:34] <flyingyellowpig> on Kubuntu
[05:34] <stittel> Fruthur: Uninstalling Gaim will remove ubuntu-deskop, which is an important metapackage.
[05:34] <Nubbie> Furthur: you shouldn't uninstall gaim.
[05:34] <Furthur> stittel : reinstall then remove?
[05:34] <stittel> Furthur: Keep it.
[05:34] <Furthur> stittel: o...k
[05:34] <BrowneR> Jitenz: ok, well if you use the interface to navigate to system-->admin-->networking you can configure it there
[05:35] <usser> krokodilflecken: how do u figure wine is gone?
[05:35] <Furthur> thx
[05:35] <flyingyellowpig> Just leave Gaim and install Kopete.I think it's better then Gaim
[05:35] <Nubbie> Furthur: pidgin should install completely separate from gaim anyways.
[05:35] <Furthur> yea it did
[05:35] <Jitenz> BrowneR:I tried but it didn't work out.
[05:35] <usser> flyingyellowpig: yea but kopete is kde
[05:35] <RapidStorm> Nubbie: do i need any programs to partition or will ubuntu do that 4 u ?
[05:35] <Furthur> just i dont want gaim anymore lol
[05:35] <Nubbie> flyingyellowpig: except he said he wants to install pidgin.
[05:35] <Furthur> I suppose in a few weeks its gonna replace gaim in reps
[05:35] <Jitenz> BrowneR: It shows that device is active
[05:35] <usser> Furthur: why wait? =)
[05:35] <BrowneR> Jitenz: ok, can you get the output from the command: ifconfig
[05:36] <Nubbie> flyingyellowpig: that and Kopete is written in QT which looks ugly in gnome.
[05:36] <stittel> Furthur: I don't think Feisty will receive official Pidgin packages.
[05:36] <krokodilflecken> usser: it's disappeared from my menu, and I can't find it anywhere
[05:36] <Jitenz> yes. eth0, eth1 and lo
[05:36] <stittel> Furthur: Gutsy surely will get packages soon, though.
[05:36] <Jitenz> BrowneR: no ppp0
[05:36] <Furthur> coz ive unninstalled ubuntu-desktop often
[05:36] <usser> krokodilflecken: its still there try running wine --version from terminal
[05:36] <flyingyellowpig> So what is the best Gnome IM then?i mean with webcam support
[05:36] <Furthur> ok ill try that i guess
[05:36] <Jitenz> BrowneR: I had a connection in Fedora.
[05:36] <Nubbie> furthur: thats bad practice, and could lead to a broken system.
[05:36] <sigwinch> Wow... 1253 nicks. Good evening everone (GMT+2).
[05:36] <BrowneR> Jitenz oh ok so it looks like you need to setup pppoe
[05:36] <Jitenz> using same nic.
[05:37] <Jitenz> yes
[05:37] <BrowneR> !pppoe | Jitenz
[05:37] <ubotu> Jitenz: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[05:37] <usser> Furthur: what happened why pidgin didnt work?
[05:37] <stittel> Nubbie: Not that most real-world Ubuntu installations out there aren't broken already anyway. :-/
[05:37] <krokodilflecken> oh, wine 09.36
[05:37] <killerbunny> Where do i change was is in the right mouse click menu ? I got "Change desktop background" right now, but would like to add other programs ?
[05:37] <krokodilflecken> well
[05:37] <Furthur> pidgin works perfectly
[05:37] <Nubbie> flyingyellowpig: banter has webcam support.
[05:37] <Furthur> gaim is still there ...
[05:37] <Poromenos1> How can I pipe a file to gzip?
[05:37] <flyingyellowpig> ok thx
[05:37] <usser> Furthur: well uninstall it
[05:37] <Furthur> marked as removed in synaptics but still working
[05:37] <usser> Furthur: oh
[05:37] <Furthur> ya
[05:37] <Jitenz> thanks BrowneR
[05:37] <usser> bummer
[05:37] <BrowneR> Poromenos1 "| gzip"
[05:37] <Jitenz> thanks ubotu
[05:37] <RapidStorm> Nubbie: do i need any programs to partition or will ubuntu do that 4 u ?
[05:38] <stittel> Furthur: As has been said: It's less hassle not to uninstall it.
[05:38] <Furthur> never happened to me before
[05:38] <BrowneR> Poromenos1 see man gzip for options
[05:38] <cables> RapidStorm, Ubuntu will do that for you.
[05:38] <usser> did u try sudo dpkg --force all -r gaim
[05:38] <flyingyellowpig> can someone tell how to install flashplayer on Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:38] <stittel> RapidStorm: The ubuntu installer contains a parititioner.
[05:38] <Dremth> BrowneR, Hey. How do I get the scripts to work? I put them in my script directory and did the chmod thing but I still dont see the menu.
[05:38] <cables> !flash | flyingyellowpig
[05:38] <eat_static> cables does ubuntu installer resize partitions???
[05:38] <ubotu> flyingyellowpig: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:38] <cables> eat_static, yep
[05:38] <Furthur> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove gaim, only the config
[05:38] <Furthur>  files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.
[05:38] <jd823592> cannot move `/home/jakub/UT2004-Patch/System' to a subdirectory of itself, `/usr/local/games/ut2004demo/System'         .......................confused ...it doesnt point to itself what is the prblem
[05:38] <Furthur> this is too weird
[05:38] <eat_static> nice
[05:38] <Nubbie> RapidStorm: there is a partition section of the installation. parition manually, edit the partition you already have so it has free space after it, and then you can create a new partition in that free space.
[05:38] <Poromenos1> BrowneR: ah, thanks a lot, didn't know it was that simple
[05:38] <RapidStorm> ty cables
[05:38] <usser> Furthur: ha
[05:39] <BrowneR> Dremth: where did you put them?
[05:39] <krokodilflecken> it STILL isn't recognising flash as installed
[05:39] <moneyshot> hi
[05:39] <Aez> Hello, I'm having problems with booting with my ubuntu CD
[05:39] <usser> Furthur: do it by hand then, whereis gaim
[05:39] <Furthur> ill reinstall and remove... thx for ur help worst comes to worst ill keep gaim
[05:39] <RapidStorm> ok cool
[05:39] <Nubbie> eat_static: yes it does.
[05:39] <Dremth> BrowneR, /home/username/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[05:39] <Nubbie> eat_static: if you defragment them first.
[05:39] <stittel> Furthur: Just type "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop".
[05:39] <Furthur> yea i guess i can remove in usr/bin n all
[05:39] <eat_static> thats pretty near Nubbie
[05:39] <grave> when i type in "make install" it would say rpm creation
[05:39] <Nubbie> eat_static: it is.
[05:40] <krokodilflecken> how do I get a programme running under - over? - wine to recognise flash? I still get fatal error: requires flash for its main menu, it is actually incredible you don't already have this installed
[05:40] <stittel> Furthur: This should reinstall Gaim and make sure that the important "ubuntu-desktop" metapackage is installed again.
[05:40] <grave> do i go synaptic package mangment to get rpm?
[05:40] <Dremth> BrowneR, Do I need to do an Xserver restart?
[05:40] <stittel> Furthur: Then leave Gaim installed.
[05:40] <Furthur> i dont want ubuntu-desktop
[05:40] <Furthur> lol
[05:40] <cables> The installer must have a script it runs to detect hardware to configure X.org. How come that script isn't available after Ubuntu is installed? If I accidentally break Xorg.conf, it would be nice to be able to run that instead of doing a dpkg-reconfigure and answering all the questions.
[05:40] <Furthur> i got beryl and banshee
[05:40] <Nubbie> krokodilflecken: try #wine if you're going to do crazy stuff like try to run flash in wine :D
[05:40] <BrowneR> Dremth: ok that looks right. not sure about restarting x... i wouldnt have thought so
[05:40] <krokodilflecken> right
[05:40] <cables> grave, Ubuntu doesn't use RPM.
[05:40] <cables> grave, it uses APT.
[05:40] <cables> !rpm | grave
[05:40] <stittel> Furthur: ubuntu-desktop is the name of a metapackage and has nothing to do with how your desktop looks like.
[05:40] <BrowneR> Dremth: they are all marked executable?
[05:40] <ubotu> grave: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:41] <Furthur> stittel : ubuntu-desktop wants to install compiz rythmbox and all
[05:41] <stittel> Furthur: So what?
[05:41] <Nubbie> furthur: ubuntu-desktop is used for upgrading your system. it IS a vital package.
[05:41] <Dremth> BrowneR, I'm pretty sure. I did  "chmod u+x" to them
[05:41] <BrowneR> Dremth: when you right click they will appear in a submenu marked scripts. is there anything in there?
[05:41] <Furthur> stittel : so i dont have the choice?
[05:42] <cables> !ubuntu-desktop | Furthur
[05:42] <ubotu> Furthur: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[05:42] <stittel> !ubuntu-desktop | stittel
[05:42] <Dremth> BrowneR, I see no sub menu named scripts
[05:42] <cables> stittel, read the ubotu factoid... he can remove it.
[05:42] <cables> stittel, already did that :)
[05:42] <Nubbie> lol.
[05:42] <Deft> hi, has anyone got any experience of efficientpc.co.uk? or alternatively has anyone here bought an ubuntu preinstalled laptop from somewhere else in the UK?
[05:42] <Furthur> lol ive been using ubuntu for 3 years now
[05:42] <stittel> cables: He can, yes, but it is not recommended.
[05:42] <Furthur> i always removed ubuntu-desktop
[05:42] <BrowneR> Dremth: well you could try chmod a+x instead
[05:42] <Nubbie> !anyone | deft
[05:43] <ubotu> deft: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:43] <BrowneR> Dremth: altho that shouldnt matter
[05:43] <cables> stittel, as long as he reinstalls it before an upgrade, he'll be fine.
[05:43] <Furthur> but ill follow ur advice for the upgrading
[05:43] <insom^> msg nickserv identify y441ps
[05:43] <stittel> cables: The problem is more with debfoster and gtk-orphan.
[05:43] <BrowneR> Dremth: you could also try restarting gnome as you say
[05:43] <BrowneR> Dremth: as far as i remember it just worked
[05:43] <Nubbie> Furthur: everytime after you upgrade you'll have to remove rhythmbox, compiz, etc.... every time...
[05:43] <Deft> Nubbie: that was the whole question actually...
[05:43] <Dremth> I'll restart first if that doesnt work I'll try the other chmod atributes
[05:43] <stittel> cables: If you want to keep your system clean using these tools, you will need to know very well what is required for what if you want to use debfoster/gtk-orphan.
[05:44] <RapidStorm> a question: will ubantu not get viruses or be hacked & does it have it's own firewall ?
[05:44] <Nubbie> deft: except you never stated your problem with ubuntu......
[05:44] <cables> RapidStorm, it's pretty much virus and malware free.
[05:44] <jd823592> is there possibily how to DELETE full directory?
[05:44] <AndrewB> h
[05:44] <cables> !firewall | RapidStorm
[05:44] <cables> !virus | RapidStorm
[05:44] <usser> RapidStorm: theres no viruses for linux yet, and by default ubuntu comes with no firewall since it has no open ports
[05:45] <Dremth> BrowneR, I'll restart first if that doesnt work I'll try the other chmod atributes
[05:45] <Dremth> BrowneR, If that still doesnt work I'll be back in about 45 minutes
[05:45] <ubotu> RapidStorm: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:45] <ubotu> RapidStorm: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:45] <RapidStorm> ok
[05:45] <stittel> !firewall | stittel
[05:45] <BrowneR> Dremth: ok, make sure there are write permissions too, chmod a+rx
[05:45] <jrib> jd823592: just right click > move to trash
[05:45] <Deft> Nubbie: I don't have one.  I was asking if anyone has bought a laptop installed with ubuntu in the UK... My only problem is not knowing whether anyone has,
[05:45] <stittel> !virus | stittel
[05:45] <BrowneR> Dremth: i mean READ
[05:45] <RapidStorm> ty
[05:45] <jd823592> have no permitions
[05:45] <jrib> jd823592: what folder?
[05:45] <bodinux> test
[05:45] <stittel> The Firewall info text sucks.
[05:45] <Cybodog> can you install fiesty and use software raid for the install?
[05:46] <jrib> stittel: make a suggestion
[05:46] <jrib> !ubotu > stittel (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:46] <jd823592> ''''''usr/local/games/ut2004demo
[05:46] <Nubbie> Deft: i could ask if anybody has ever done somersaults while drinking beer, but it's not really relevant to the topic of this channel.
[05:46] <KDan> anyone know of a way/command to tell if an mp3 and/or wav file is valid or just a different file renamed?
[05:47] <jrib> jd823592: sudo rm -r /usr/local/games/ut2004demo     be sure you didn't make a typo before pressing enter
[05:47] <UltimaDude> Hi
[05:47] <Deft> Nubbie: wanting to buy a laptop with ubuntu on it isn't an ubuntu issue?
[05:47] <Nubbie> deft: i'm sure people have bought laptops with ubuntu preinstalled... are you just curious?
[05:47] <usser> jrib: hehe
[05:47] <Dremth> BrowneR, The chmod a+x worked
[05:47] <UltimaDude> Nubbie, never seen a laptop with Ubuntu installed
[05:47] <Dremth> BrowneR, Thanks!
[05:47] <Dremth> BrowneR, I gtg now though
[05:47] <usser> UltimaDude: check out sytem76
[05:47] <UltimaDude> Nubbie: I just got Windows Badista
[05:47] <UltimaDude> sytem76?
[05:48] <jd823592> ok thx
[05:48] <Nubbie> UltimaDude: outside of north america lots of computers come with linux.
[05:48] <usser> system76 dot com
[05:48] <Aez> Hello, I'm having problems booting from my ubuntu CD. The BIOS refuses to boot from it even when I switch the boot order so that it will boot from the CD first
[05:48] <UltimaDude> Nubbie, I'm not american
[05:48] <usser> UltimaDude: they sell ubuntu laptops
[05:48] <Nubbie> ultimadude: i didn't say you were.
[05:48] <UltimaDude> usser: If I as american why is my name Minawa Kazuma
[05:48] <IowaDave> UltimaDude: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/
[05:48] <UltimaDude> LowaDave: thanks.
[05:49] <Nubbie> ultimadude; what i said included non north american websites...
[05:49] <usser> UltimaDude: www.system76.com
[05:49] <stittel> jrib: First of all: iptables is a frontend to the Linux kernel packet filter, not a Firewall.
[05:49] <cables> Aez, try burning it again. It's possible that there's an error on the disk. Also verify your ISO.
[05:49] <UltimaDude> Anyway, i'm working on a new project
[05:49] <cables> !md5 | Aez
[05:49] <ubotu> Aez: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:49] <UltimaDude> Called UWin
[05:49] <Aez> Alright, I'll try that
[05:49] <Aez> Thanks
[05:49] <UltimaDude> Though i'm having some problems on my ubuntu 6.06 disk
[05:49] <jrib> stittel: it says "managed by"
[05:49] <stittel> jrib: Firestarter and Guarddog are essentical frontends to iptables.
[05:50] <UltimaDude> I always get errors loading and my monitor goes crazy
[05:50] <stittel> jrib: Also a Firewall isn't usually just a packet filter, but consists of application-level proxys.
[05:50] <UltimaDude> The only version that works for me is 7.04 beta
[05:50] <Nubbie> ultimadude: use safe graphics mode.
[05:50] <stittel> jrib: If we are talking about firewalling, we should not leave them out too.
[05:50] <UltimaDude> Nubbie: its not that, the monitor doesn't like the resolution
[05:51] <Lopi_> witam
[05:51] <stittel> jrib: Also we might add the note, that a typical standalone Desktop doesn't need a paket filter at all, as long as no service is running on the inet interface.
[05:51] <Nubbie> Ultimadude; I think there are live cd boot time options to specify the resolution and refresh rate if you really wanted to.
[05:51] <Lopi_> po 1: czy conky da sie konfigurowac by mozna bylo ustawic w ktorym miejscu na pulpicie ma sie to pokazywac?
[05:51] <UltimaDude> Nubbie: i don't think its neccesary, I'm just wondering if I can change to 32bit without another CD
[05:52] <fuzzy> i've got a pb with the compiz packages. i want to install gnome-compiz-manager(v-0.3.6), but it seems it is in conflict with the compiz i have installed(v <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:52] <jrib> stittel: stittel k, but you should modify it and tell ubotu, then your suggestion gets forwarded to the right people
[05:52] <fuzzy> what can i do?
[05:52] <Lopi_> po 2: chcac zmieniac distro linuza nie kasujac sobie partycji /home to co powinno znajdywac sie w partycji /boot ?
[05:52] <Nubbie> ultimadude: just install the 32 bit kernel, and reinstall everything that's 64 bit.
[05:53] <stittel> jrib: To me a firewall is a concept of different measures to partition networks. For most Windows users it's a flashy software that does nothing of value, asks funny questions and is in fact bad to their system secuirty.
[05:53] <stittel> jrib: Yes, maybe later I will. Now I'll go eat pizza. :)
[05:53] <UltimaDude> Nubbie: how?
[05:53] <jrib> stittel: enjoy :)
[05:53] <cables> stittel, how is it useless on windows?
[05:53] <UltimaDude> Nubbie: is there anychance of this messing up?
[05:53] <Nubbie> ultimadude: yeah probably a good chance.
[05:53] <cables> stittel, if spyware tries to phone home, it pops up and notifies them.
[05:53] <stittel> cables: This is very naive.
[05:54] <fuzzy>  i've got a pb with the compiz packages. i want to install gnome-compiz-manager(v-0.3.6), but it seems it is in conflict with the compiz i have installed(v <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:54] <cables> stittel, can you explain?
[05:54] <UltimaDude> ultimadude: I'm wondering, why does everyone think linux is all hard and everything, when Ubuntu is easy :)
[05:54] <stittel> cables: It's trivial to tunnel through allowed applications. Numerous proof of concepts have been made for this.
[05:55] <cables> UltimaDude, people think about Linux and see in their mind's eye a black screen with white letters scrolling across.
[05:55] <Nubbie> ultimadude: cause people tell them it's scary.
[05:55] <Whtiger> what does .d represent on the end of some directories?
[05:55] <Noname`> I need to write permissions to the enclosing directory for the user my webserver. Because it says: "Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir] : Permission denied in /var/www/mkdir.php on line 5"
[05:55] <UltimaDude> cables: isn't that freeBSD :P
[05:55] <cables> stittel, i guess that is a problem. What they should do is combine a hardware firewall with a software frontend.
[05:55] <rishi> Ultima: well, linux isn't doing all that well for me
[05:55] <Noname`> I need to write permissions to the enclosing directory for the user my webserver. Because it says: "Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir] : Permission denied in /var/www/mkdir.php on line 5"
[05:55] <UltimaDude> rishi: howcome?
[05:56] <rishi> I just installed ubuntu on my external HD
[05:56] <stittel> cables: You have one chance of preventing spyware from getting out: Turning off real internet accces and forcing everything over very restrictively configured application proxys.
[05:56] <rishi> and loaded it up, it worked fine
[05:56] <Nubbie> !repeat | noname`
[05:56] <ubotu> noname`: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:56] <kekko_> does linux need to be defraged?
[05:56] <cables> kekko_, no
[05:56] <rishi> now when I try to boot from my original drive
[05:56] <rishi> the one with windows
[05:56] <Nubbie> kekko_: nope.
[05:56] <rishi> I get this Grub 2.1 error
[05:56] <aboyousif> nvidia-legacy?
[05:56] <kekko_> thx cables and Nubbie
[05:56] <RapidStorm> bbl
[05:56] <aboyousif> no bot here
[05:56] <Nubbie> rapidstorm: defrag! remember
[05:56] <stittel> cables: Windows messaging (IPC) has no security features from preventing tunneling in any way. Microsoft acknowledges that offically.
[05:57] <UltimaDude> Is there any very close MSN clone with personal messages?
[05:57] <stittel> cables: All a personal firewall does on a typical user system is worsening system security by added code complexity.
[05:57] <kirkunit> Noname: sudo chmod u+w <dir>
[05:57] <Nubbie> stittel: thats why on a fresh XP install, without even touching a website, you can get spyware.
[05:57] <rishi> any clue as to how to fix it?
[05:57] <aboyousif> UltimaDude, try amsn
[05:57] <usser> UltimaDude: amsb
[05:57] <usser> damn
[05:57] <UltimaDude> aboyousif: I did, the font's not right.
[05:57] <stittel> Nubbie: Not with SP2 and not with no services listening on the inet interface.
[05:58] <kirkunit> man chmod
[05:58] <kekko_> so a good and easy firewall for ubuntu shell?
[05:58] <Nubbie> stittel: most people don't have SP2 cds, they have original XP cds lol.
[05:58] <stittel> Nubbie: Otherwise please tell me the attack vector of spyware on a Windows system with no firewall but no services running on the inet interface.
[05:58] <root__> hi there, wen i start ubuntu, i get a kubuntu loading and then a blank screen where i can type in words but nothing happens
[05:58] <kaja> sss
[05:58] <aboyousif> UltimaDude, what do you mean by fonts is not right ?
[05:58] <xtknight> why are my kernel images coming out to be >200M when i'm on a release, non-developmental branch of Feisty?
[05:58] <Cnl_Delta> how can i recover kubuntu
[05:58] <stittel> Nubbie: Yes, so instead of installing firwall software before going online they can just install SP2.
[05:59] <Cnl_Delta> quit
[05:59] <ataq> hey can anybody recommend a fairly hassle free mail server?
[05:59] <kekko_> sittel : maybe you know an easy firewall for an ubuntu shell
[05:59] <Cnl_Delta> exit
[05:59] <cables> Cnl_Delta, did you install Ubuntu over it?
[05:59] <stittel> Nubbie: And there really have been enough instances in which infection was only possible because of security holes in Firewall software.
[05:59] <Nubbie> stittel: what i'm saying is there's a time in between when you're completely open for attacks. if you install XP and let it sit for half an hour connected to the internet, there is a good chance you're collecting junk.
[05:59] <Nubbie> stittel: i'm not arguing with you about firewall programs.
[05:59] <stittel> Nubbie: Before going online you configure your Win XP appropriately.
[06:00] <stittel> Nubbie: Otherwise you've got a problem yes.
[06:00] <Dremth> Is there a way i can resize the main menu icon in the task bar without resizing the whole taskbar? I want the main menu icon to hang over the top of the task bar.
[06:00] <stittel> Nubbie: This is due to very, very bad default configuration in Windows.
[06:00] <saigon> is it really necessary with antivirus sofware on Ubuntu?
[06:00] <Nubbie> stittel: most people don't know that though. and yeah, it's not their fault.
[06:00] <grave> when i try make instlal i get permission denied
[06:00] <Nubbie> saigon: not really.
[06:00] <jrib> !pl | Lopi_
[06:00] <ubotu> Lopi_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:00] <saigon> nice, thanks :)
[06:00] <ieldib> good morning everybody
[06:00] <RedFoxy> hi all!
[06:00] <ferronica> is there any application for typing practice in ubuntu 7.04   ?
[06:01] <killerbunny> Where do i change was is in the right mouse click menu ? I got "Change desktop background" right now, but would like to add other programs
[06:01] <Nubbie> saigon: the only time i'd ever really have antivirus software is if i were running a mail server.
[06:01] <UltimaDude> saigon, People really can't be bothered to make viruses for ubuntu, they're letting Windows users suffer enough
[06:01] <stittel> Nubbie: If they don't know what to do, they also don't know how to properly configure firewalling software.
[06:01] <ieldib> Does anyone know of a good  GTK  designer ?
[06:01] <RedFoxy> i've a troubles with wine when i try to execute a program it say: err:module:LdrInitializeThunk "MSVCR80.dll" failed to initialize, aborting
[06:01] <ieldib> i'am having problems with glade
[06:01] <ieldib> :(
[06:01] <grave> When i try 'make install' i get a msg permission denied
[06:01] <saigon> I like it, hehe
[06:01] <aboyousif> ieldib, glade3
[06:01] <Cnl_Delta> hi there, when X server does not start, how can i recover it?
[06:01] <Nubbie> ferronica: yeah it's part of edubuntu.
[06:01] <aboyousif> ieldib, what problem do you have ?
[06:01] <stittel> Nubbie: Actually most people should just pay somebody to administer their system or get a Mac.
[06:01] <ieldib> aboyousif,  is their a apt repository for it
[06:01] <kjaer> Cnl_Delta, Do you get any error messages ?
[06:01] <Nubbie> Cnl_Delta: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:01] <ieldib> aboyousif,   whenever i create a new  object (such as a button)
[06:01] <ieldib> it  takes up the whole window screen
[06:02] <ieldib> or if i create a pull down menu
[06:02] <Cnl_Delta> not at all kjaer , ahh its xorg
[06:02] <Cnl_Delta> i thought org
[06:02] <stittel> Nubbie: From my expierence the vast majority of privately administered Windows maschines is is a state beyond pitiful.
[06:02] <Cnl_Delta> i'll try that
[06:02] <ferronica> Nubbie: in ubutnu 7.04?
[06:02] <ieldib> it will sit  right smack dab in the middle of the window
[06:02] <ieldib> can't remove it
[06:02] <ieldib> can't resize it
[06:02] <stittel> Nubbie: And it's not getting that much better with user-friendly Linux distributions such a Ubuntu.
[06:02] <aboyousif> ieldib, that is normal .. you should use boxes to manage the window first
[06:02] <UltimaDude> how do i host a server?
[06:02] <UltimaDude> like with some HTML and stuff
[06:02] <stittel> Nubbie: Just that Ubuntu is more safe by default because of having sane defaults.
[06:02] <Nubbie> ferronica: yeah, i forget the name though. it's part of edubuntu, and as such is available for all other ubuntu.
[06:02] <Ix0s> RedFoxy, Join #winehq for wine support
[06:03] <usser> !apache
[06:03] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:03] <RedFoxy> thanky
[06:03] <aboyousif> !nvidia-legacy
[06:03] <ieldib> aboyousif,  any good documentation/books/tutorials on using glade ?
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-legacy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <Nubbie> stittel: i'm completely agreeing with you (ie. user has no admin privileges)
[06:03] <Ix0s> !info nvidia-legacy
[06:03] <ubotu> Package nvidia-legacy does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:03] <Dremth> grave, type: sudo make install
[06:04] <Ix0s> !nvidia | aboyousif
[06:04] <ubotu> aboyousif: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:04] <xtknight> !info nvidia-glx-legacy | Ix0s
[06:04] <aboyousif> ieldib, mm i think the documentation is good enough
[06:04] <ubotu> ix0s: nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+<IP_ADDRESS>-15.20 (feisty), package size 2992 kB, installed size 9780 kB
[06:04] <Nubbie> ieldib: check the internet or read some man pages.
[06:04] <IowaDave> ferronica: use Synaptic to install tuxtype
[06:04] <virus92> where can i find the xcl desktop for ubuntu?
[06:04] <UltimaDude> I really like ubuntu, it supports my Nvidia NForce 4 drivers and display which my old windows never detected them
[06:04] <Nubbie> IowaDave: thanks :)
[06:05] <ferronica> IowaDave: okay
[06:05] <stittel> Nubbie: Ok, I'll really be gone for my pizza now. I am starving! :)
[06:06] <ieldib> aboyousif,  Nubbie ,  thanks
[06:06] <Dremth> Is there a way i can resize the main menu icon in the task bar without resizing the whole taskbar? I want the main menu icon to hang over the top of the task bar.
[06:06] <aboyousif> ieldib, you are welcome anytime
[06:07] <flyingyellowpig> if i install ubuntu/kubuntu on a HP Omibook XE4500,will is it search for the right graphic and sound drivers itself ,do i have to it by myself?
[06:07] <cables> Dremth, no, not that I know of.
[06:07] <UltimaDude> If I compile WineX do I have to pay monthly?
[06:07] <cables> flyingyellowpig, if graphics and sound work in the LiveCD, they'll work in the installed version.
[06:07] <Ix0s> flyingyellowpig, It will detect them, but graphics will be open source that is all
[06:07] <rsk> UltimaDude: WineX is dead
[06:07] <rsk> UltimaDude: use wine instead
[06:07] <UltimaDude> rsk: I mean you can like compile Cedega
[06:07] <Ix0s> flyingyellowpig, Yeah like cables said, they work in livecd they will work in installed
[06:08] <UltimaDude> rsk: But do you have to pay monthly
[06:08] <Ix0s> UltimaDude, Yeah
[06:08] <UltimaDude> lx0s: :(
[06:08] <neonimr> how can i make a seperate partition so i can install another linux distro
[06:08] <flyingyellowpig> ok,so will it work right then,whatever if is a open source
[06:08] <Cnl_Delta> k that worked, thanks guys
[06:08] <flyingyellowpig> ?
[06:08] <cables> neonimr, use the other distro's installer to partition it, or use the Ubuntu LiveCD if you want a gui
[06:09] <kaptnemo> can someone take a look at my fstab seetings and tell me why my drives aren't mounting? PLEASE!?!
[06:09] <IowaDave> flyingyellowpig: your computer is listed here: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hp.html
[06:09] <flyingyellowpig> ok thx IowaDave
[06:10] <sophus> I have that problem X wouldnt start if i use the evdev driver for my mouse.. I've searched on google, and it seems to be a bug, but im not completely sure.. Does someone know why my X crashes?
[06:10] <kaptnemo> can someone take a look at my fstab seetings and tell me why my drives aren't mounting? PLEASE!?!
[06:10] <SeriousSven> I need to let file-roller support rar files, I have the rar file from the rar for linux but I don't remember where to place it
[06:10] <cables> Is making /boot a separate partition a good idea?
[06:10] <IowaDave> flyingyellowpig: if you can discover the kind of video card in your laptop you may be able to search the forums for a how-to on installing dedicated drivers
[06:11] <Cnl_Delta> whats the difference bewtween xgl and xserver, if x doesn't work how can xgl be recovered?
[06:11] <kaptnemo> can someone take a look at my fstab seetings and tell me why my drives aren't mounting? PLEASE!?!
[06:11] <flyingyellowpig> I have a Via S3 Savage
[06:11] <mjr> cables, not really unless you know you need it for some reason (LVM, software raid...)
[06:11] <cables> !repeat | kaptnemo
[06:11] <ubotu> kaptnemo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:11] <Kr0ntab> flyingyellowpig, you can also try out Ubuntu using the live CD which comes by default on the desktop install cd.  you will see for yourself how the laptop reacts without installing anything.
[06:12] <empty> I need help on installing nvidia geforce fx 5200 on feisty
[06:12] <cables> mjr, if I keep /boot on a separate partition, I would have less of a risk of having an unbootable system if I needed to reinstall Ubuntu and it failed, right?
[06:12] <flyingyellowpig> ok thx
[06:12] <IowaDave> flyingyellowpig: via does provide linux drivers for some of its cards. I have a via card and was able to replace the default vesa driver with a via driver.  edgy (and presumably feisty) support via
[06:12] <sophus> empty: did you tried look on ubuntuguide.org?
[06:12] <empty> ya
[06:12] <empty> but cannot
[06:13] <empty> i have a integrated graphic card by intel which i used to install feisty
[06:13] <UltimaDude> I don't really like intel anymore :(
[06:13] <At0mic_PC> I got a couple of questions. None are really ubuntu specific. One is when using date how do you change the HW clock? I booted into windows and it messed my time up. Now ever time the computer gets rebooted I have to change the time again.
[06:13] <vickdini> hi! i installed the newest version of ubuntu and everything went ok, but when i restarted my pc the windows boot screen showed up instead of ubuntu's. hope you can help
[06:13] <astro> #join ubuntun-cn
[06:14] <empty> but when i switch to nvidia card i cannot even boot into the system terminal
[06:14] <UltimaDude> vickdini: Did you choose MBR?
[06:14] <empty> even in recovery i will get some  error
[06:14] <IowaDave> At0mic_PC: how old is the PC? could be the battery on the motherboard needs replacing?
[06:14] <At0mic_PC> Second is are any of you guys into astronomy? I was wondering are there any astronomy type programs for linux?
[06:14] <rsk> At0mic_PC: yeah celestia is one
[06:15] <frojnd> hello guys how can I make that 2.6.20-15-generic will be before <IP_ADDRESS> on my grub list?? here is my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19466/
[06:15] <Kr0ntab> empty, did you disable the integrated card in the bios?  or at least change the priority if possible to the AGP card?
[06:15] <kirkunit> atomic_pc: stellarium as well
[06:15] <empty> My pc is 4 years old
[06:15] <At0mic_PC> IowaDave: I doubt it. It was working fine, but I booted into windows and it changed the time.
[06:15] <At0mic_PC> rsk: kirkunit: Thanks
[06:15] <vickdini> i chose the manual setup and later clicked advanced in the last step an left it hd0
[06:15] <LjL> i've got two network interfaces, and when i boot, sometimes, in an apparently random fashion, they're swapped (what's normally eth0 becomes eth1 and vice versa). what could be the cause, and how could i avoid this?
[06:16] <empty> can anyone help me install nvidia fx graphic card
[06:16] <caner> how do we uninstall any package. i have installed cedega and now i want to remove it. i used "aptitude remove" command but it didnt work??
[06:16] <pabllo> Hi everyone
[06:16] <bruenig> caner, look in your cedega documentation, cedega is not an ubuntu product
[06:16] <UltimaDude> caner: How did you install it?
[06:16] <At0mic_PC> I thought there was some sort of hwclock -sync or something?
[06:16] <vox754> LjL, !   like two ethernet cards?
[06:16] <Spee_Der> caner, sudo apt-get remove cedega
[06:17] <LjL> vox754: yes, two plain fastethernet cards
[06:17] <pabllo> Can somebody give me a hand with my problem, it seems there's no solution!!!!!!
[06:17] <caner> i installed it from a .deb package
[06:17] <LjL> vox754: actually, one is integrated in the motherboard
[06:17] <SlimeyPete> caner: sudo dpkg --remove <package name>
[06:17] <UltimaDude> pabllo: Whats the problem?
[06:18] <caner> let me try it SlimeyPete
[06:18] <kaptnemo> can someone take a look at my fstab seetings and tell me why my drives aren't mounting? PLEASE!?!
[06:18] <At0mic_PC> hwclock --systohc
[06:18] <At0mic_PC> Found it.
[06:18] <pabllo> ultimadude, when I start I game, I can see no menus. Ihear the music, I know the game is running but I can't see anything but a black screen.
[06:18] <At0mic_PC> man pages are awesome.
[06:18] <vox754> LjL, oh,yes, it could be various combinations like two PCI or one integrated as you say. I've got not clue,but I think I've read there is a way to name the interfaces yourself.
[06:18] <caner> it says cedega isnt installed but i can see and run the prog using just $cedega
[06:19] <UltimaDude> pabllo: It seems like a graphics card problem, have you got the drivers?
[06:19] <flyingyellowpig> Hi there again IowaDave my graphic card is Via Twister (Savage)
[06:19] <ilreds> hi
[06:19] <POVaddct> kaptnemo: so where is your fstab? did you put it on pastebin?
[06:19] <ilreds> how can i change the order of my two sound cards?
[06:19] <kaptnemo> pastebin?
[06:19] <pabllo> ultimadude, in deed, i've tried them all. By the way, I have a nvidia nv18 gerofce 4 video card
[06:19] <POVaddct> !pastebin | kaptnemo
[06:19] <caner> "cedega-small_6.0_all.deb" is the name of the package ive installed. but i cant remove it
[06:19] <ubotu> kaptnemo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:20] <vox754> flyingyellowpig, I think all Savage cards are supported since they are not new. Look at viaarena.
[06:20] <kaptnemo> k
[06:20] <flyingyellowpig> so is there any chance it will work well with Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[06:20] <SlimeyPete> caner: sudo dpkg --remove cedega-small_6.0_all           ?
[06:20] <UltimaDude> Pabllo: I Have a nforce 4 aswell, What game are you trying to run?
[06:20] <At0mic_PC> rsk: kirkunit: I never really did this stuff when I was a kid. I can find venus just because it's easy but none of the other planets. These things hard to read?
[06:20] <caner> thanks SlimeyPete
[06:20] <knapp_> What's the best way to get Xfce and Gnome installed and to both exist in harmony (ie, not cludder up the menus, etc)
[06:20] <caner> let me give it a try
[06:20] <LjL> vox754: i'm particularly puzzled by the fact that *most of the time*, they're recognized in the right "order". just sometimes they get mixed up
[06:20] <flyingyellowpig> ok,So which one uses less from the system,Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[06:20] <flyingyellowpig> i mean RAM
[06:21] <POVaddct> flyingyellowpig: xubuntu :)
[06:21] <UltimaDude> napp_: Isn't it install xubuntu-desktop
[06:21] <strabes> flyingyellowpig: i haven't noticed a huge difference - i just prefer kde
[06:21] <pabllo> ultimadude, every single one. :) haha not all but, ppracer, tremulous, scorched 3d and some others I can't remember
[06:21] <vox754> LjL, I assume the correct order is that in which you use them to provide a router setting or something specific
[06:21] <UltimaDude> Pabblo: hmmmmm
[06:21] <UltimaDude> pabbllo: hmmmmmm*
[06:21] <knapp_> UltimaDude, but wont that clutter menus and replace the ubuntu splash?
[06:21] <pabllo> ultimadude, I've been searching for an answer for three days
[06:21] <caner> thanks SlimeyPete it worked. i didnt like cedega :)
[06:21] <kaptnemo> POVaddct http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19473/
[06:22] <LjL> vox754: yes. both are set up statically
[06:22] <knapp_> Ultimadude, I would like to have it where I can just have Ubuntu and be able to switch sessions (like you would see on Fedora or some other distro)
[06:22] <strabes> knapp_: you can change the bootsplash if you want
[06:22] <zaggynl> Anyone knows howto use xfire in Ubuntu?
[06:22] <POVaddct> kaptnemo: and which partitions don't get mounted?
[06:22] <flyingyellowpig> Well, i tried xubuntu,on my desktop pc,so i like Ubuntu and Kubuntu.So i just need to know which one will perform better
[06:22] <zaggynl> !xfire
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <UltimaDude> knapp_: you can switch, I have KDE and gnome together
[06:23] <strabes> knapp_: http://strabes.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/change-bootsplash-images-in-ubuntu/
[06:23] <vox754> flyingyellowpig, I'd go with Ubuntu, look here http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=25&CatID=2580
[06:23] <kaptnemo> hdb1, hdc1,
[06:23] <flyingyellowpig> I don't to play games just listen to music/videos and use internet and office applications
[06:23] <IowaDave> flyingyellowpig: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318520.  it's a how-to on the S3 Twister drivers for ubuntu
[06:23] <pabllo> ultimadude, do you think I can solve that?
[06:23] <flyingyellowpig> thx
[06:23] <pabllo> ultimadude, or am I condammned to see all black?
[06:23] <POVaddct> kaptnemo: run blkid to see if the UUIDs are correct
[06:24] <POVaddct> !uuid | kaptnemo
[06:24] <ubotu> kaptnemo: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:24] <timmi-inuse1> how do i install icon themes?
[06:24] <knapp_> k thanks a lot ultimadude, strabes
[06:24] <UltimaDude> knapp_: No problem.
[06:24] <UltimaDude> pabllo: Tryed running and native linux games?
[06:24] <strabes> knapp_: you should try kde for the fun of it. i tried it and ended up switching.
[06:24] <xoB> Need help to update firefox 1.15 > <IP_ADDRESS> And ubuntu 6.06 > 7.04, im new so i would like good explaination so i understand i know what im doing..! :)
[06:24] <Softly> sup?
[06:25] <strabes> xoB: sudo update-manager -c
[06:25] <kaptnemo> POVaddct bash: !shell: event not found
[06:25] <knapp> strabes, yeah I've used KDE for a long time. I love it. I decided to give gnome a try, now I'm going to give XFCE a try ;)
[06:25] <pabllo> ultimadude, do you mean sudoku, iango, nibbles, they all work
[06:25] <strabes> knapp: oh sweet
[06:25] <POVaddct> kaptnemo: if you are running bash, you _are_ already in a shell
[06:25] <kaptnemo> lol
[06:25] <vox754> flyingyellowpig, just so you know, that page tells that VIA has source code for drivers that support S3 ProSavage cards. Those drivers are already in the kernel so you don't need to install them "manually", unless there is some awkward problem.
[06:25] <Noiano> hellp
[06:26] <strabes> xoB: you might have trouble upgrading from dapper to feisty though. I'm just warning you. Make sure you back up all your important data because your system might be toast after you upgrade.
[06:26] <UltimaDude> Maybe Ubuntu should come with KDE,Gnome and XFCE on the DVD version.
[06:26] <LjL> !away > DarkRAM`away    (DarkRAM`away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:26] <Noiano> i'm having problem with openssl: i need to ad a cert as a CA cert in order to have no warnings...any ideas?
[06:26] <rishi> hey, i've been working on this for a couple of hours now and I'm getting absolutely no where
[06:26] <vox754> !nickspam > DarkRAM`away
[06:26] <saturn04> /leave
[06:27] <strabes> !nickspam > strabes
[06:27] <Noiano> saturn04: /part
[06:27] <rishi> I have ubuntu installed on an external HDD, and when I try to launch windows on my primary HDD without the external plugged in, I get this Grub 2.1 error
[06:27] <vox754> LjL, by the way, the factoids !nickspam and !away, you may merge them if you think it is appropriate
[06:27] <LjL>  /leave usually works just as well (in most clients), you just don't need to put a space.
[06:27] <UltimaDude> is there any way to replace kubuntu loading bar
[06:27] <xoB> Strabes: Yeah tried upgrading to 7,04 fom cd, but my screen go crazy and say "input not supported"
[06:27] <ConspiracyTheory> What is the best distro of linux?
[06:28] <flyingyellowpig> ok thx good then.I hope it will work,but will be any problem if i install Ubuntu/Kubuntu on same laptop?Because since i have installed Xfce and Ubuntu then Kubuntu on my desktop pc ,the sound is missing and the display changed it size from 1024 x 840 to 800 x 640 and i can't get it back how it was
[06:28] <POVaddct> ConspiracyTheory: there is no best. there is just personal preference.
[06:28] <strabes> xoB: you mean you tried a fresh install of 7.04? Do you have an ATI card?
[06:28] <pabllo> ultimadude, please, dude, help me out I'm stucked
[06:28] <xoB> Strabes: No Ge-Force
[06:28] <LjL> !best > ConspiracyTheory    (ConspiracyTheory, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:28] <usser> rishi: boot from windows recovery into automated recovery mode and issue "fixmbr" command
[06:29] <UltimaDude> pabllo: I have a question, are you running native linux games or windowss?
[06:29] <dabide> hi, i'm running ubuntu server (edgy), is there a simple way to create a single webpage with an upload form, so i can upload files to my server with only a webbrowser available?
[06:29] <jager> server irc.dejatoons.net
[06:30] <sn0tz|afk> can someone help me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433371 i posted on this forum but no one can seem to help
[06:30] <pabllo> ultimadude, no, man, I'm using Feisty Fawn as we speak
[06:30] <usser> rishi: but i gotta warn u once u start tampering with stuff like mbr u computer can be rendered useless
[06:30] <ConspiracyTheory> is suse or red hat better than ubuntu?
[06:30] <rishi> that's not fun
[06:30] <IowaDave> vox754: thanks for pointing out the via drivers are in the kernel. what's the trick for switching to those? is it just an edit of xorg.conf?
[06:30] <strabes> ConspiracyTheory: it's all preference
[06:30] <usser> rishi: its just a warning u should be fine
[06:31] <rishi> so what does fmbr do?
[06:31] <kaptnemo> POVaddct how do I run blkid?
[06:31] <POVaddct> ConspiracyTheory: for the last time: there is no best. there is just personal preference.
[06:31] <usser> rishi: remember to disconnect all the external hdd
[06:31] <zen-owl> hello, does feisty have support for bcm43xx cards?
[06:31] <usser> rishi: and unless u have some witty windows setup(like dual boot xp vista)
[06:31] <UltimaDude> pabblo, I Know that but are the games for linux or windows?
[06:31] <vox754> IowaDave, at least for the unichrome family you change the driver to "via"
[06:32] <usser> rishi: fixmbr fixes your master boot record which was overwritten by an ubuntu boot loader
[06:32] <UltimaDude> I wanted to play Tales Of Symphonia not be stuck on IRC :p
[06:32] <rishi> ah, I see
[06:32] <zen-owl> and is it able to configure g2.18  and x7.2 to use a resolution of 1200x800? (widescreen laptop)
[06:32] <usser> rishi: which u'll change to windows native one when u do fixmbr
[06:32] <rishi> usser: thanks for the help, I'm going to give it a shot now
[06:32] <xoB> Strabes: Thanks for the help btw :)
[06:32] <UltimaDude> I also have a problem
[06:32] <bob_> can someone help me setup a printer please?
[06:32] <david2tm> em hello everyone. i'm trying to install drv. for my modem. after sucesfuly runnig ./configure, i'm tryied make, but this error was one of errors out there: "error: dsp.h no such file or derictory". i suppose it's part of some lib, which i don't have. which lib it is? or is there other problem?
[06:32] <UltimaDude> The LiveCD didn't see I had Windows installed
[06:32] <strabes> xoB: i recommend you try the alternate install CD if you can't boot into the regular live CD
[06:33] <bob_> !printer
[06:33] <strabes> UltimaDude: you can just add a windows option into your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:33] <POVaddct> kaptnemo: i guess "blkid /dev/theblockdevice" (what theblockdevice has to be substituted by the appropriate device)
[06:33] <IowaDave> vox754: i probably should have just tried that first. i went through the whole compile-install cycle before editing xorg.conf. everything worked out fine, though.
[06:33] <usser> rishi: here u go from ms faq Writing a new master boot record to your system partition could damage your partition tables and cause your partitions to become inaccessible.
[06:33] <strabes> UltimaDude: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/2646
[06:33] <flyingyellowpig> Have anyone get the hands on Ubuntu Studio?
[06:33] <UltimaDude> strabes: Its too late now, i'll redo it when I get a windows install CD
[06:34] <rishi> ah man.
[06:34] <rishi> Think I should do it?
[06:34] <vox754> IowaDave, I'm not sure if the very old cards or those Savage cards need a special driver. But yeah, I started with "vesa", it sucked, I simply changed that to "via" and added the correct modes and it worked perfectly, well... without 3D, but that's okay. Also read "man via"
[06:34] <rishi> what would your advice be
[06:34] <xoB> Strabes: The problem is not booting the system, it goes well.. When i hit install i starts loading the files, and koabunka my screen go nuts. I ordered a free cd of fieasty though, hoping that will solve the problem. Thanks for the help :)
[06:34] <stix> what are you trying to do rishi
[06:34] <usser> rishi: but seeing how u cant access your win partition anyway, i'd see give it a go
[06:34] <usser> *say
[06:34] <strabes> UltimaDude: oh did it erase windows? in that case check out this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358183&highlight=windows
[06:34] <rishi> usser: I'm in my windows partition right now
[06:35] <POVaddct> kaptnemo: i suggest looking in the manpage of blkid or blkid --help
[06:35] <rishi> I just can't access it without the external HDD installed
[06:35] <rishi> er, not installed
[06:35] <rishi> plugged in
[06:35] <IowaDave> vox754: right. 2D serves well for office stuff.
[06:35] <kaptnemo> POVaddct Ok ty
[06:35] <crolle17> what are the minimal requrirements for using vmware-player?
[06:35] <crolle17> requirements
[06:35] <stix> you cant boot windows without external usb drive connected
[06:35] <stix> ?
[06:35] <Phrozen_One[Away> wheres the inittab file in ubuntu?
[06:35] <pabllo> I really need help, I've been searching, asking everyone if they can help me with mi NVIDIA card configuration but no one seems to know why do I have that problem. I know my card accepts 3d because I have beryl, although I deactivate it when I'm about to play. The thing is, when I start any 3d game I can't see the menu, therefore I can't play. HHEEEEELLLPPP, PLEASE!!!!!!
[06:36] <flyingyellowpig> what r the commands to install flash player on Kubuntu?I am a noob sorry,still learning to use Linux
[06:36] <LjL> !flash > flyingyellowpig    (flyingyellowpig, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:36] <usser> stix: he's got ubuntu there and apparentely grub is on his main hdd, and when external hdd disconnected grub cant find ubuntu and spits an error
[06:36] <usser> stix: thats my guess
[06:36] <rishi> stix: correct
[06:36] <POVaddct> kaptnemo: btw, you should get some command line knowlegde anyway. very useful in rescue situations.
[06:36] <codecaine> anybody have updates with festy that don't update like compiz
[06:36] <stix> i see
[06:36] <stix> well when you installed your external drive must have been connected??
[06:36] <Kr0ntab> crolle17, power... and a wee bit of ram.  well enough to accomodate the guest OS RAM defined in the vmware image.
[06:36] <vox754> IowaDave, There is a "master thread" in the forums that follows the via driver since 2005, and they notice the drivers have been there in the kernel since, although they had more problems, specially with DRI and 3D.
[06:37] <rishi> yeah, I installed from the Live CD onto my external drive.
[06:37] <flyingyellowpig> I have download it,but i don't any clue how to install it
[06:37] <david2tm> em hello everyone. i'm trying to install drv. for my modem. after sucesfuly runnig ./configure, i'm tryied make, but this error was one of errors out there: "error: dsp.h no such file or derictory". i suppose it's part of some lib, which i don't have. which lib it is? or is there other problem?
[06:37] <stix> it wrote the boot record to the external drive
[06:37] <pabllo> I really need help, I've been searching, asking everyone if they can help me with mi NVIDIA card configuration but no one seems to know why do I have that problem. I know my card accepts 3d because I have beryl, although I deactivate it when I'm about to play. The thing is, when I start any 3d game I can't see the menu, therefore I can't play. HHEEEEELLLPPP, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:37] <Phrozen_One[Away> wheres the inittab file in ubuntu?
[06:37] <flyingyellowpig> the file is in tar.gz
[06:37] <UltimaDude> i'm going to go off
[06:37] <usser> stix: nope
[06:37] <UltimaDude> :(
[06:37] <usser> stix: to the internal
[06:37] <MementoMori> hi all
[06:38] <UltimaDude> bye
[06:38] <vox754> !repeat | pabllo
[06:38] <ubotu> pabllo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:38] <stix> usser: he installed to the external or internal?
[06:38] <flyingyellowpig> and i can't find the run tab like on windows
[06:38] <IowaDave> vox754: on my recent build, my mb included an integrated K8M890. found good how-to at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[06:38] <rishi> stix: external
[06:38] <usser> stix: he installed to the external, but the grub is on the internal
[06:38] <rajiv_nair> flyingyellowpig:hit alt+f2
[06:38] <MementoMori> in which repository can I find vmware server from dapper?
[06:38] <flyingyellowpig> ok i will try
[06:39] <jbroome> MementoMori: vmware server you have to get from vmware
[06:39] <jbroome> player is in the repos
[06:40] <stix> rishi: hmmmm ive had this happen but with two internal drives format one then system will not boot but that was a long time ago good luck if I can help you I will are you usually in here
[06:40] <vox754> IowaDave, oh yeah. All unicrhome-based cards are going to be supported thanks to the guys at Openchrome. However the 3D is going to be tricky since apparently VIA doesn't want to release the specifications for it.
[06:40] <rishi> well, I just got ubuntu yesterday and since then I've been in here for quite some time
[06:40] <usser> rishi: what error code does it give again?
[06:40] <cas13y> I'm stuck in installing ubuntu LTS. (first time ever installing any linux)
[06:41] <rishi> uhh. I honestly can't remember, I think it was along the lines of "Error 21"
[06:41] <flyingyellowpig> ok i hit Alt+F2 then what i have to do now ?do i have to type sudo apt-get !flash or r kde apt-get !flash
[06:41] <usser> rishi: yep, ok my suggestion is to do fixmbr
[06:42] <usser> rishi: u wont be able to access ubuntu but thats ok
[06:42] <usser> rishi: boot into live cd
[06:42] <kazol> what are some good elecronic CAD\simulation programs for Linux?
[06:42] <david2tm> does anybody know which lib is dsp.h?
[06:42] <Ramosa> How do I know beforehand if my wireless card is supported by Ubuntu?
[06:42] <piratepenguin> kazol: QCad is one
[06:42] <ikonia> david2tm thats a header - not a lib
[06:42] <rishi> but can I boot directly from the external HDD from the bios?
[06:42] <SeveredCross> Ramosa: Google!
[06:42] <kazol> piratepenguin: thx
[06:42] <rishi> after I do that
[06:42] <ferox> Ramosa: try a live cd
[06:42] <Ramosa> SeveredCross, is wireless setup plug n play?
[06:42] <cas13y> I'm stuck at installing at part 5 of 6 (partitioning correctly)
[06:42] <cas13y> (brb
[06:43] <ikonia> cas13y whats the problem
[06:43] <Ramosa> ferox, no I got Ubuntu installed, but need to buy a wireless card
[06:43] <david2tm> ikonia: i understand that, but where do i get that header?
[06:43] <usser> rishi: try to follow this faq to fix your ubuntu install
[06:43] <usser> rishi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[06:43] <vox754> !wifi
[06:43] <ikonia> david2tm dsp.h is xorg I think
[06:43] <ferox> try a live wireless card :)
[06:43] <Ramosa> bah
[06:43] <rishi> usser: thanks
[06:43] <usser> rishi: i dont think so
[06:43] <usser> rishi: what we want to do, is to give windows hdd its native mbr
[06:44] <usser> rishi: and to external hdd write an ubuntu mbr
[06:44] <Ramosa> ferox, what wireless card have you got working?
[06:44] <ferox> ram
[06:44] <SeveredCross> Ramosa: More or less.
[06:44] <ferox> Ramosa: now i'm linux intel wireless card
[06:44] <SeveredCross> Install the card and restart Ubuntu should work.
[06:44] <usser> rishi: that way windows will be happy and ubuntu hdd will boot from BIOS
[06:44] <SeveredCross> Intel Pro Wireless will work.
[06:44] <rishi> sounds good
[06:44] <cas13y> (back)
[06:44] <SeveredCross> Atheros cards work.
[06:45] <ferox> also slink cards work
[06:45] <rishi> thanks for the help usser and stix, I'm going to go try it now :S
[06:45] <ferox> also dlink cards work
[06:45] <ikonia> just look at the supported list
[06:45] <ikonia> !hcl
[06:45] <Ramosa> thanks
[06:45] <ferox> linksys to
[06:45] <Aqwis> Hidan, i
[06:45] <Aqwis> nvm
[06:45] <cas13y> the problem is that I have a 40 GB hdd, (which over 20GB are used/reserved for Win XP use) and that partitioning the left 15/20GB is totally new to me
[06:46] <Ramosa> which wireless card do you recommend of all those?
[06:46] <ikonia> cas13y that partitioner walks you through it
[06:46] <ikonia> Ramosa read the supported list - they all work
[06:46] <LjL> !netsplit
[06:46] <Ramosa> ikonia, got link?
[06:46] <ikonia> LjL ubotu is dead
[06:47] <cas13y> back, if anyone responded yet - please repeat
[06:47] <vox754> !wifi
[06:47] <LjL> ikonia: just on the other side of the split... but yes
[06:47] <Ix0s> cas13y, You just use the paritioner inside ubuntus installer
[06:47] <ikonia> Ramosa no - ubotu is dead, but the hcl on the ubunt.com website
[06:47] <ar1> hi
[06:47] <ikonia> cas13y the partitioner tool will guide you
[06:47] <cotton> do all versions of linux share the same terminal?
[06:47] <ikonia> LjL thought it went before the split
[06:47] <cas13y> yes I tried to, that went wrong
[06:47] <usser> cotton: what do u mean?
[06:47] <ikonia> cotton the terminal you are refering to is supplied by gnome
[06:47] <AaronMT> Why does ubuntu lockup when I click Ok after entering my Wireless WEP key?
[06:47] <ferox> is possible to view shutdown log?
[06:47] <Ix0s> cotton, Yes really, theres nothing you can do in ubuntu that you cant do in say gentoo
[06:48] <ikonia> ferox use a text editor
[06:48] <cotton> ohh
[06:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:48] <Ramosa> I've no idea where to look on ubuntu.com for supported hardware
[06:48] <LjL> ikonia: i guess the servers weren't connected anymore before the actual split was visible. now it'll take a while before ubotu resyncs, too, most likely
[06:48] <Ramosa> ok thanks
[06:48] <ikonia> LjL looks like its back any how
[06:48] <LjL> actually, it's back with decent lag already
[06:48] <ferox> ikonia: i don't know wich file open with a text editor
[06:48] <Aqwis> I'm having some problems with using the msttcorefonts in Firefox in ubuntu... on all webpages using one of the msttcorefonts such as Verdana or Georgia, Firefox displays the equalient font that comes with Ubuntu instead of the proper msttcorefont
[06:48] <TECH_1> I think I found a fix for the screen resolution problem.
[06:48] <ikonia> ferox look in /var/log
[06:48] <reya276> hello everyone
[06:48] <vox754> !wifi | Ramosa
[06:49] <cas13y> !me test
[06:49] <AmirB_> how does network manager handle repeaters?
[06:49] <dsfsdf> how can i update the kernel
[06:49] <ubotu> Ramosa: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me test - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <ikonia> cas13y don't play with the bot please
[06:49] <cas13y> sorry
[06:49] <ar1> i just installed ubuntu feisty fawn but i can't install new softwares. i tried in a terminal and with synaptic and they both tell me i have some kind of dpkg problem. could someone tell me how to fix this problem please?
[06:49] <AaronMT> Why does ubuntu lockup when I click Ok after entering my Wireless WEP key?
[06:49] <ikonia> ar1 use sudo
[06:49] <Ix0s> cas13y, Only winds up the ops and well you dont want them angry :D
[06:49] <AmirB_> cuz I'm using a repeater and both it and the original access point have the same name, but network manager only lists one of them (the farther one) and connects to it
[06:49] <ikonia> AaronMT look in the logs and dmesg
[06:49] <IowaDave> Aquis: you probably already did this: need to restart Firefox after installing the ms fonts.
[06:49] <reya276> Can someone help me install Real Player 10
[06:50] <Aqwis> IowaDave, did that multiple times.
[06:50] <ikonia> reya276 what aprt is not clear
[06:50] <ikonia> part
[06:50] <AaronMT> ikonia: Which var/log would it be under
[06:50] <Ix0s> reya276, Use the one in synaptic :)
[06:50] <IowaDave> Aqwis: ok.
[06:50] <Aqwis> I'm pretty sure it worked fine in 6.06 and 6.10
[06:50] <reya276> which part
[06:50] <AmirB_> on the other hand, if I type "iwlist scan" it shows both the access point and the repeater
[06:50] <ikonia> AaronMT /var/log is the directory
[06:50] <ferox> ikonia: var/log/?
[06:50] <reya276> I just downloaded a .BIN file for real player 10
[06:50] <AaronMT> ikonia: daemon, messages, syslog etc
[06:50] <ikonia> ferox yes, /var/log
[06:50] <cas13y> should I set a partition ready in win xp (Paragon Part. Manager) before starting live cd + installing?
[06:50] <Squall> Hmm..
[06:50] <Squall> I have a problem
[06:50] <crolle17> i want to run wmware-player with a windows2000.vmx. the system is amd2200 cpu and 512 mb ram. should be enough?
[06:51] <Savvra> Besides Wine (which I couldn't get to work for the life of me) know of any software that will allow for using window's programs?
[06:51] <ikonia> AaronMT look in the syslog player
[06:51] <usser> crolle17: yep
[06:51] <IowaDave> Aqwis: i'm using 6.06 and firefox uses the ms fonts correctly. don't know about feisty yet.
[06:51] <ikonia> crolle17 ask in #vmwarehq
[06:51] <usser> crolle17: that has to do it
[06:51] <Aqwis> hmz
[06:51] <ar1> i just installed ubuntu feisty and i've got some problems installing new softwares. it tells me dpkg has an error in it's code. how do i fix that?
[06:51] <Lilacor> AmirB_: repeaters are layer one
[06:51] <Savvra> I'm using fiesty btw.
[06:51] <Lilacor> AmirB_: they shouldn't even register under the OS
[06:51] <ikonia> ar1 I've told you 2 times now - use sudo
[06:51] <ferox> ikonia: wich file in var/log for shutdown log?
[06:51] <vox754> cas13y, yes you could if you trust your partitioning program, otherwise I'd partition with Gparted
[06:51] <Aqwis> ikonia, i bet he doesn't know what that means :)
[06:51] <pabllo> casl3y, I recommend you to download and install ubuntu from the alternate cd version, really, do that. but the partition, do it in th elive cd
[06:51] <ikonia> ferox there isn't one - hence why I said check the syslog to see if anything complained on shutdown
[06:52] <TECH_1> ar1..id reload..maybe your over clocked for install?
[06:52] <ar1> ikonia: sorry, i didn't see it. i tried sudo
[06:52] <ferox> ikonia: ok
[06:52] <ikonia> ar1 whats the error message
[06:52] <AmirB_> ?
[06:53] <AmirB_> lilacor: what does that mean?
[06:53] <ar1> ikonia: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:53] <cas13y> vox: problem is that using the installationdelivered partitionmanager (gparted) gives errors when the installation starts
[06:53] <Squall> http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/3076/screenshotqt5.png
[06:53] <Squall> I need to deled the ones with the X's
[06:53] <ar1> and lots of "core dumped"
[06:53] <Squall> but it says I don't have permission
[06:53] <tunganet> how come i totally lost my internet connection to brower/games
[06:53] <tunganet> but i can connect to here..
[06:53] <Squall> and I need to edit the original one..Can't, no permission
[06:54] <dsfsdf> i wanna update my kernel
[06:54] <AmirB_> Lilacor: what does that mean? that it connects to the receiver? but I'm not getting the strength I should be getting, and in iwconfig it lists both of them
[06:54] <dsfsdf> what should i do
[06:54] <vox754> !kernel | dsfsdf
[06:54] <ubotu> dsfsdf: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:54] <Lilacor> AmirB_: you don' t need to know the details, all you need to know is if you're asking about how a network repeater interacts with the OS...it shouldn't.
[06:54] <Squall> Does anyone know what I should do?
[06:55] <grave> Anyone have rockwell riptide sound audio>? or modem/sound audio?