[13:39] <Arceye> wthielen,  let me try that :)
[13:40] <vooze> varunendra: that had no effect :/ guess I'll wait for Intel to fix it :)
[13:40] <wthielen> sure :)
[13:40] <tomreyn> wiebels: also "man 5 fstab"
[13:40] <varunendra> Arceye, another option - Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6, to return to GUI - Ctrl-Alt-F7. This will leave your GUI session running in the background, just change the screen from GUI to CLI
[13:40] <Arceye> wthielen, ctrl-alt-backspace does nothing :(
[13:40] <wthielen> oh..
[13:40] <wthielen> here it works..
[13:40] <varunendra> vooze, looks like the only option we are left with now anyway :)
[13:41] <jKlaus> Gah.. I can't seem to update any packages on my ubuntu server
[13:41] <wthielen> been using it for 15 years
[13:41] <tomreyn> wiebels: keep in mind that editing /etc/fstab makes changes permanent (until you edit it again or mount manually supplying different mount options), so maybe you want to test it first.
[13:41] <jKlaus> anyone decent with debugging this sort of thing?
[13:41] <jKlaus> http://pastebin.com/7vmdpBmc
[13:41] <vooze> varunendra: yeah :/ guess I will have to live with 80mbit... Of those first world problems.. :D
[13:41] <wthielen> anyway, zzz (GMT+9 here)
[13:41] <vooze> of = oh *
[13:41] <varunendra> :)
[13:41] <Millinder> hey
[13:42] <Millinder> anybody know wht omegle is?
[13:42] <Arceye> I'll explain what I want to do and it may help better.
[13:42] <wiebels> tomreyn yes, I am aware of that. I am just adding barrier=0 to my /dev/sda <-- I have a UPS and I am encountering weird issues with my jbd2/sda IO rate
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !info omegle
[13:42] <Millinder> anybody?
[13:42] <Millinder> I want to know if I do wrong
[13:42] <Guest62821> anyone have a tuto for the BT5R3
[13:42] <Millinder> if a girl show herself to me on site like omegle, do I do wrong?
[13:42] <Millinder> or I'm not blamed?
[13:42] <tomreyn> wiebels: maybe partitions aren't aligned properly?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> Millinder, wrong channel, off topic
[13:42] <Millinder> ?
[13:43] <Arceye> I want to build a game server with web and database,   but I need to be able to use desktop
[13:43] <Millinder> answer plz
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !ot|Millinder,
[13:43] <Millinder> lmao
[13:43] <lvleph> how do I change suspend hooks? Specifically, I need to run a script after resuming from suspend.
[13:43] <Millinder> ok here is some on topic for you
[13:43] <Arceye> However I only need the desktop to cinfigure things then I would like to stop it running when not needed
[13:43] <Millinder> when ubuntu and kubuntu used to send live cd to people, I ordered maybe 200-300 in many parts and used all this shit cd as frisbee ^^
[13:43] <jKlaus> can anyone help me get my system updating again?
[13:43] <Millinder> no wonder canonical dont do that cd anymore for free hahahahahaaa
[13:44] <wiebels> tomreyn I have no clue, it is a NAS with 12.04LTS on SSD and 2x1TB in Raid1. On filetransfer the speed fluctuates a lot (even pv / cp from SSD to SSD) and I am spotting a lot of 99.99% IO with iotop
[13:44] <cfhowlett> DJones, thank you.
[13:44] <resc_user_2374> i cant get into ubunto
[13:44] <resc_user_2374> ubuntu
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !details|resc_user_2374,
[13:45] <tomreyn> wiebels: hmm yeah this doesn't sound good. did you inspect the kernel log?
[13:45] <resc_user_2374> i tried cntl+alt+f1 and i dont know what to do after
[13:45] <lvleph> I must be invisible! Every question I have asked in here for the last two months gets ignored.
[13:45] <jKlaus> DJones, good man
[13:45] <wiebels> tomreyn I checked my dmesg, nothing in kernel log
[13:45] <resc_user_2374> i out in my password and it kicks me right back to the login page
[13:46] <jKlaus> Can anyone point me a direction to start debugging my package manager issues?
[13:46] <resc_user_2374> put
[13:46] <cfhowlett> resc_user_2374, can you login to guest?
[13:46] <resc_user_2374> yes and that is it
[13:46] <wiebels> tomreyn the jdb2/sda process seems to be over-active, as is the flush process
[13:46] <jKlaus> Or is it likely so screwed up I should just install a new OS?
[13:46] <cfhowlett> resc_user_2374, seen a few of these come up today.  did it EVER login?  what did you change?
[13:47] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, on that screen (ctrl-alt-F1) you had to enter your user id first, then password. Did you do it that way?
[13:47] <resc_user_2374> no it triees and kicks me right back out
[13:47] <tomreyn> wiebels: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50428/how-do-i-check-whether-partitions-on-my-ssd-are-properly-aligned
[13:47] <tomreyn> wiebels: is this an ext4 file system then?
[13:48] <lvleph> How do I change suspend hooks? Specifically, I need to run a script after resuming from suspend.
[13:48] <pityuka44> Hi, I meet with a problem all the time but only on Debian and Ubuntu. Sometimes X crashesand I find myself watching the login screen. Many people have this problem. Why?
[13:48] <resc_user_2374> yes and i got kendall@kendall-thinkpad-t420:~$
[13:48] <wiebels> tomreyn yes, its ext4 even the RAID1 drives
[13:48] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, that means you successfully logged into the virtual tty
[13:49] <tomreyn> wiebels: oh so what you have a is a single ssd which contains the OS and 2 HDDs for storage, got it now.
[13:49] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, are you currently posting here from the guest account on the same machine?
[13:49] <wiebels> tomreyn that is correct, and my 2nd partition (extended) on /sda is not aligned
[13:50] <max3> is it possible to make dolphin the default file manager in gnome?
[13:50] <tomreyn> wiebels: hmm well you should back it up and recreate it.
[13:50] <Arceye> does the command "sudo service lightdm stop" and "sudo service lightdm start"    apply to xubuntu ?
[13:51] <lvleph> max3, http://askubuntu.com/questions/84929/how-to-set-up-dolphin-as-default-file-manager
[13:51] <max3> lvleph: it doesn't work
[13:51] <tomreyn> Arceye: it applies to lightdm, the universal login daemon ubuntu + xubuntu use by default
[13:51] <max3> lvleph: http://askubuntu.com/questions/293670/getting-error-when-trying-to-use-dolphin-instead-of-nautilus
[13:52] <max3> lvleph: that's not me but i get the same problem
[13:52] <lvleph> max3, there are three solutions
[13:52] <max3> lvleph: none of them work
[13:52] <resc_user_2374> how do i get back into ubuntu
[13:52] <tomreyn> Arceye: if your question was whether these commands will effecitvely restart your X server on xubuntu then the andswer is 'yes'
[13:52] <tirah4022> hello
[13:52] <resc_user_2374> i even reset my password and i still cant login
[13:52] <tomreyn> hi tirah4022
[13:53] <max3> lvleph: i have tried exo-tools, i have tried editing ~/.local/share/applications by hand, and i tried setting the mime using xdg
[13:53] <brucevein> amd-vi completion-wait loop timed out
[13:53] <lvleph> max3, I won't be of much help then.
[13:53] <resc_user_2374> im new to linux
[13:53] <brucevein> i'm getting this on boot when i try to install
[13:53] <Arceye> tomreyn,  thanks, everything else such as game, web , sql server will remain running right ?
[13:53] <lvleph> but at least you have confirmed that people can read what I post.
[13:53] <brucevein> i believe it has to do with iommu
[13:53] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, are you posting here from a different machine?
[13:53] <resc_user_2374> no
[13:53] <wiebels> tomreyn as the problem also occurs on the raid drives I suspect the alignment is not the culprit, however i was not aware that the SSD had an unaligned partition
[13:53] <lvleph> How do I change suspend hooks? Specifically, I need to run a script after resuming from suspend.
[13:54] <tirah4022> I am trying to install ubuntu on a pc with 2 1tb hdd I shrank my windows volume so I gave ubuntu 300 gb to work with, while ubuntu is partitioning the hardrive it comes up with ??? ??? and makes me restart the installation
[13:54] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, then? Guest session from Ubuntu on the same machine?
[13:54] <resc_user_2374> yes but i cant do anything in guest
[13:54] <tomreyn> Arceye: anythning which depends on the graphical output may fail
[13:54] <resc_user_2374> dont have the right permissions
[13:54] <tirah4022> like the partition is created and then when I click install it gets wiered
[13:55] <tomreyn> Arceye: servers (which usually don't have graphical output) should continue to operate fine
[13:55] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, I'm not sure it'll work, but please open a terminal with Ctrl-Alt-T or from dash
[13:55] <resc_user_2374> im dual booted and windows is giving the blue screen
[13:55] <Arceye> tomreyn, I don't think any of those items I listed are dependent on gui
[13:55] <himanshu> hi, Can I get some names of twitter client(GUI) that 'works' normally on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[13:56] <lvleph> I know of a web user interface
[13:56] <lvleph> lol
[13:56] <resc_user_2374> after i open the terminal what do i do after
[13:56] <tirah4022> any help?
[13:56] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, Does this command work - "df -h" ??
[13:57] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, does it show you the free space on root (/) ?
[13:57] <tomreyn> wiebels: yes i'm not sure about this either. i've had similar issues with ext4 and massive I/O load and a very busy jbd process, as had many other people. i didn't really find a reliable answer on the cause, nor on how to overcome it without loosing features you actually want, though.
[13:57] <tomreyn> Arceye: i don't know for "game", but the rest should be fine
[13:57] <wiebels> tomreyn but did you solve it in the end? or did you revert to ext3?
[13:57] <resc_user_2374> i can try but i would have to reboot agaon
[13:57] <resc_user_2374> again
[13:58] <tomreyn> wiebels: i passed management of that system on to someone else ;-)
[13:58] <wiebels> tomreyn ah, well thats no option as its located in my own basement :P
[13:58] <varunendra> resc_user_2374, does that command return nothing in the terminal?
[13:58] <Arceye> tomreyn, I know the game server will be fine :)  Just trying to make the move form winXP running as a server to ubuntu, so gathering information before I stary
[13:58] <Arceye> start*
[13:59] <resc_user_2374> im going to login here on a different pc so i can do it while im talking to you
[13:59] <resc_user_2374> brb
[13:59] <tomreyn> wiebels: you should definitely consider installing some monkeys in your basement.
[14:00] <tomreyn> Arceye: sounds liek a good way to go.
[14:01] <max3> is it possible to make dolphin handle the desktop in gnome? ie when i double click a folder on the desktop dolphin launches instead of nautilus?
[14:02] <Arceye> tomreyn,  last but very important is ftp. currently I run a 3rd party ftp server in xindows, it allows me to set up multiple users with different permissions, these users do not have accounts on the actual box, is this possible under linux as everthing I have read indicates not possible
[14:05] <tomreyn> Arceye: yes it's possible. what you're looking for is an ftp server with _virtual_ users
[14:05] <Arceye> tomreyn,  thanks again
[14:05] <wiebels> tomreyn I'm rather confident its the Ext4 journal service that messes with my drives.. and indeed it looks like a common yet unsolved issue
[14:08] <tomreyn> Arceye: welcome. i guess you probably want something like proftpd. it's rather straight forward to setup if you're already into apache httpd since the configuration file structure is similar. understanding the ftp protocol surely helps, though. there the most common options for storing virtual user accounts is in either flat text files or a mysql database
[14:08] <tirah4022> hi
[14:09] <tirah4022> when I am partitioning my hard drive the /dev/sda does not have the hard drive beside it
[14:09] <tomreyn> wiebels: it probably is that service, the question would be why it is, and answering this would likely require in-depth understanding of ext4, which i don't have.
[14:09] <spaceneedle> ubuntu 14.04: The Broadcom driver won't install. When this happens, I install the dkms and broadcom debian packages from the dvd--but this failed too.
[14:10] <wiebels> tomreyn and neither do I, it used to be an issue with the older kernel though. I might just leave it and wait for the next LTS
[14:11] <tomreyn> wiebels: sure if you can wait for two months. or try a newer kernel, or upgrade to 14.04 now, or upgrade to  13.10.
[14:11] <Arceye> tomreyn, I am currently reading about VSftpd, I honestly have no clue how to set any of this up in lunux yet ( just gathering information ) , as I am a very green linux newbie ( but learning ).
[14:11] <wiebels> tomreyn I'm not to fond of upgrades, I tend to do a fresh install.. however might just upgrade
[14:11] <wiebels> tomreyn I do want to thank you though ;).
[14:12] <papa_> hello world
[14:12] <Arceye> tomreyn, is there a ftp server which I can set up using a gui for configuration ?
[14:12] <tomreyn> wiebels: maybe upgrade this time, and do a fresh install when 14.04 is stable (so like 2/3 months after release)
[14:12] <spaceneedle> I had to use the b43-fwcutter method to install the Broadcom driver for my card  for Ubuntu 14.04.
[14:12] <tomreyn> wiebels: and you're welcome
[14:14] <tomreyn> Arceye: hmm, i'm not sure about the gui configuration, but vsftpd is not the right thing to start with if you are setting up an ftp server on linux for the first time
[14:14] <Arceye> tomreyn,  ok, it was just the first answer that came up on askubuntu when I searched for ftp server with virtual users
[14:15] <wiebels> tomreyn another thing; although I have a high IO the system does not use any memory on file copy, thats suspicious right?
[14:15] <resc_user_2602> ok varunendra is back
[14:16] <tomreyn> Arceye: i'd go with proftpd or pureftpd
[14:16] <resc_user_2602> im back
[14:16] <Arceye> tomreyn, going to read about them now :)
[14:16] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, on a different system now?
[14:16] <resc_user_2602> yes and i have the terminal open
[14:16] <resc_user_2602> on my laptop
[14:17] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, you mean the one that you got with Ctrl-Alt-F1? With your own login?
[14:17] <tomreyn> Arceye: vsftpd is the better option in the long term if you have a small user base and need a very specific configuration, though, i'd say.
[14:17] <resc_user_2602> yes its my laptop
[14:18] <resc_user_2602> im on the home computer now
[14:18] <trijntje_> what is the preferred graphical method to remote to another ubuntu machine?
[14:18] <tomreyn> wiebels: i would think that's an in kernel process, but i'm afraid i don't really know
[14:19] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, so how much space do you have left on your root partition (check the output of "df -h")?
[14:19] <tomreyn> wiebels: i.e. you may not get to see a "cp" process with a given larger RSZ if that's what you were looking for
[14:19] <max3> is it possible to make dolphin handle the desktop in gnome? ie when i double click a folder on the desktop dolphin launches instead of nautilus?
[14:19] <max3> *in gnome
[14:20] <resc_user_2602> how do i check that
[14:20] <Arceye> tomreyn, maybe 10 users ( just friends uploading/sharing game demo files )
[14:20] <resc_user_2602> 21g
[14:20] <bart717> varunendra: _or df -i /
[14:20] <resc_user_2602> size is 31g and left is 21
[14:20] <mauroslucios> estou tentando instalar aplicativos adobe no wine!
[14:20] <mauroslucios> alguém tem alguma dica?
[14:21] <resc_user_2602> 29%
[14:21] <wiebels> tomreyn well, I am seeing almost 0% mem usage
[14:21] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, and what is the permission on .Xauthority file? (output of "ls -l ./.Xauthority")
[14:22] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, does it show your user id in 3rd and 4th columns?
[14:24] <resc_user_2602> 4th
[14:26] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, it should show something like this - "-rw------- 1 varun varun 55 Feb 19 13:29 ./.Xauthority" -- so is your login id listed two times or just once?
[14:26] <webpanda> I m facing a huge temperature problem (+88°), does anybody how I can fix the prblem?
[14:26] <resc_user_2602> once
[14:26] <webpanda> ubuntu installed by default the right ati drivers
[14:27] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, what is your user id (exactly)?
[14:27] <resc_user_2602> once on the 4th line
[14:27] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, please answer the question I asked above.
[14:27] <bart717> webpanda: tweak voltage for CPU
[14:27] <resc_user_2602> kendall
[14:28] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, exactly "kendall" right? Nothing before or after that?
[14:28] <crabcoke> I've got a question
[14:29] <resc_user_2602> well im logged in as guest
[14:29] <crabcoke> Basically I want to run a Linux distribution (still undecided) and I want to install it to a USB. Not like liveboot, but like a proper install where whatever I do will be saved for next time
[14:29] <webpanda> how can I tweak it bart717 ?
[14:29] <resc_user_2602> -rw-r--r-- 1 guest
[14:29] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, you have to log in as kendall, were you not able to do that?
[14:30] <resc_user_2602> no that is what im having issues with
[14:30] <jozefk> crabcoke, persistence?
[14:30] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, I meant via "Ctrl-Alt-F1" at the login screen
[14:30] <resc_user_2602> ut trues to log me in but kicks me right back out
[14:30] <crabcoke> jozefk I haven't found a solution yet and I've been looking a while
[14:30] <bart717> webpanda: try reboot and go int BIOS setings
[14:31] <resc_user_2602> oh yes
[14:31] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, have you tried the "Ctrl-Alt-F1" keys yet? At the login screen?
[14:31] <jozefk> it is called persistence
[14:31] <resc_user_2602> i will now
[14:32] <resc_user_2602> kendall!kendall-ThinkPad-T420:~$
[14:33] <resc_user_2602> thats what i get after in enter my user name and password
[14:33] <varunendra> crabcoke, if you want a proper installation, do it. What is the problem?
[14:33] <billijoe> did anyone try running ubuntu 13 on vmware fusion 6.0.2 on mac-book-pro retina?
[14:33] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, that's what I want. Now please run the ls command again (ls -l ./.Xauthority)
[14:35] <resc_user_2602> 4th line down is my user name
[14:35] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, only once again?
[14:35] <resc_user_2602> sorry 1st and 4th
[14:35] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, can you show it to us here?
[14:36] <resc_user_2602> 1st one is adb setup.odt
[14:36] <automatik> can someone help me to find out if GTK+ is installed on my system?
[14:36] <webpanda> I ll try but I m quite sure that underclocking is not possible on my laptop bart717
[14:36] <resc_user_2602> how do i do that
[14:36] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, it should be only one long line.
[14:36] <varunendra> what is the command that you typed resc_user_2602
[14:37] <resc_user_2602> ls -l
[14:37] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, the complete command was "ls -l ./.Xauthority"
[14:38] <resc_user_2602> i got back no command
[14:38] <resc_user_2602> sorry i had one too many l
[14:38] <varunendra> :)
[14:39] <Juan> Hey, I installed ubuntu 12.04 and my dvd drive isn't working, it works on the live cd and other os
[14:40] <automatik> can someone help me determine if gtk+ is installed on my system?
[14:40] <resc_user_2602> now i got -rw-------- 1 kendall kendall 198 feb 23 05:10 ./.Xauthoruty
[14:41] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, that seems okay. Now please check "ls -l ./.ICEauthority"
[14:43] <resc_user_2602> -rw------- 1 kendall kendall 4158 feb 19 04:58./.iceAUTHORITY
[14:44] <coventry> I have a netbook with full disk encryption which I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 last night.  I can no longer get past the password challenge at initial boot.  Any suggestions?
[14:44] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, that one looks fine too. Is Ubuntu installed on a single partition? No separate /boot or /home partitions?
[14:45] <resc_user_2602> yes
[14:45] <resc_user_2602> im dual booted though
[14:46] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, and most of the space on it is empty. So I guess I can't be of further help on this. The usual suspects are clean it appears.
[14:46] <resc_user_2602> i have a 1tb harddrive
[14:46] <ibrahim> Hello, I'm trying to use a LiveCD on a MacBook Pro. 13.04 is supposed to work but my computer says it can't even read the disc.
[14:46] <shankey> does mesa drivers supports 3d hardware acceleration
[14:46] <resc_user_2602> im just going to wipe and redo it then
[14:46] <resc_user_2602> thank you
[14:46] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, you may try renaming your current .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files, so they get created fresh, and hope it works
[14:47] <resc_user_2602> thanks again
[14:47] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, would you like to try that now?
[14:48] <resc_user_2602> oh renaming
[14:48] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, yeah, perhaps the last shot
[14:48] <resc_user_2602> sure if your willing to walk me though it
[14:48] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, it would be just two simple commands -
[14:49] <resc_user_2602> k
[14:49] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, for Xauthority : "mv .Xauthority Old.Xauthority"
[14:49] <ibrahim> Does anybody know what version is easiest to use on a MacBook Pro? I got it working at some point with some version but I can't remember which one it was.
[14:49] <jqf> nice.
[14:50] <OerHeks> ibrahim, check the mactel pages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[14:50] <resc_user_2602> command not found
[14:50] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, try loggin in after that. If it still fails, then also try : "mv .ICEauthority Old.ICEauthority"
[14:51] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, without quotes "mv...." ?
[14:51] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, it is short form of "move" (mv)
[14:52] <hoihe> What does it mean when there is no input line in the Terminal after an operation? I'm trying to Rsync my /home directory to /home/Storage
[14:52] <resc_user_2602> nope it wouldnt let me login
[14:52] <ibrahim> OerHeks, I have a version 9.1…does that mean it doesn't support any of the versions?
[14:53] <ni291187> hello
[14:53] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, try renaming the .ICEauthority also. Reboot if simple logoff/login doesn't work
[14:53] <ni291187> !list
[14:53] <ibrahim> MacBook pro version 9.1, that is
[14:53] <automatik> can someone help me out with some issues with a script I'm trying to run?
[14:54] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, if the commands were successful, you should have two "Old...." files in you Home directory now. Check "ls -l Old.*"
[14:54] <varunendra> !details | automatik
[14:54] <resc_user_2602> nope i tried both and neither worked
[14:55] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, check if you have two "Old.." files now (ls -l Old.*)
[14:55] <automatik> ok,.. I'm trying to run a program called 'balsa'
[14:55] <automatik> it requires one have gtk+ installed
[14:55] <automatik> the first thing i want to know is,.. is it actually installed
[14:56] <resc_user_2602> yes i see two file that say old
[14:56] <OerHeks> ibrahim, the wiki does not say so, i don't know as i have no apple machine
[14:57] <glitsj16> automatik: check if it is installed with: apt-cache policy balsa
[14:57] <resc_user_2602> im just going to redo it
[14:57] <resc_user_2602> lame
[14:57] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, try rebooting and retry login. If failed again, loginto the virtual tty again (Ctrl-Alt-F1), and check if the .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files were generated
[14:57] <dabiidii84> hi
[14:58] <dabiidii84> any one can help me?
[14:58] <resc_user_2602> ok
[14:58] <varunendra> resc_user_2602, by the way, did you try "Ctrl-Alt-F7" to get back to GUI?
[14:58] <dabiidii84> i want to instal ubunt in windows virtual but
[14:58] <automatik> glitsj16: ok
[14:59] <dabiidii84> any one?
[14:59] <dabiidii84> can any one help me please?
[14:59] <Tom1> i am getting permission denied error when mounting truecrypt file in ubuntu.
[14:59] <varunendra> dabiidii84, you didn't tell us the story after the "but.."
[14:59] <Tom1> varunendra: i am getting permission denied error when mounting truecrypt file in ubuntu.
[14:59] <dabiidii84> sorry i think no one was reading
[15:00] <dabiidii84> so lol the thing is when the instal begin dont leave the first step
[15:00] <hoihe> Sorry for repeating, but what does it mean in the terminal when there is no input line? I mean, the line with the cursor is blank. It happened after inputting my password after a longer operation rsync /home /media/Storage
[15:00] <dabiidii84> dont load any thing
[15:00] <varunendra> dabiidii84, just post the details of your problem. People will respond if they have an answer
[15:00] <varunendra> Tom1, was this truecrypt file created in Windows?
[15:01] <hoihe> Does it mean that the operation is "running"?
[15:01] <fhenning09> I have a question; Is anyone here familiar /w Ubuntu on a macbook?
[15:01] <Tom1> varunendra: no its was created under ubuntu only.
[15:01] <dabiidii84> :(
[15:01] <varunendra> hoihe, yes, the process is not complete yet - that's what it means
[15:01] <fhenning09> If so why will every button and function work with the exception of button 2 on the touchpad
[15:02] <hoihe> Ah, alright. Thanks, I was worried it was crashing or system hung up.
[15:03] <cypher-neo> hoihe, If you would like the rsync process to be verbose, to show that the process is running and what files are being transferred, you can (next time) use the command "rsync -izvrdop [source] [destination]"
[15:03] <varunendra> dabiidii84, which step the installation hangs on? The Purple screen, or after that?
[15:03] <hoihe> I will, thanks again.
[15:04] <dabiidii84> the purple
[15:04] <cypher-neo> hoihe, You should also read "man rsync" to determine which command switches are the ones you need. That command I showed you is the one I use. :)
[15:05] <davidb> exit
[15:05] <dabiidii84> e choose the lenguage and then just stay the screen purple with ubuntu 13.10 and the dots dont stop
[15:05] <hoihe> Alright
[15:06] <niuniu> good evening
[15:06] <dearcarr0t> good night !
[15:06] <compdoc> good morning
[15:07] <wabs> Morning Everyone
[15:07] <varunendra> dabiidii84, how much RAM have you allocated to the VM? And which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[15:11] <dabiidii84> 1024 mb and thversion is 13.10
[15:13] <varunendra> dabiidii84, I think you get the language screen in the Advance boot menu only, where you also get the option to "Check disc for defects, Test Memory.." etc.
[15:15] <varunendra> dabiidii84, so was that the screen where you chose an option? ("Try" or "Install"?)
[15:16] <calvin1> trying out weechat.  nice.
[15:24] <automatik> glitsj16:  paste.debian.net/83599
[15:24] <automatik> i don't know what it means exactly
[15:27] <glitsj16> automatik: Installed: (none) .. means the package (i assume balsa) isn't installed .. the Candidate info shows you what package version is installable .. so if you want to install balsa, either use your regular add/remove software GUI like 'Software center' or use the terminal command: sudo apt-get install balsa
[15:28] <wonderworld> dabiidii84: are you using the 64bit or the 32bit iso? you need to create a 64bit vm, if you want to use the 64bit iso
[15:30] <varunendra> wonderworld, if they got the language selection screen, it means the architecture was right, else the machine won't even start loading the OS
[15:30] <wonderworld> it starts grub. it hangs after trying to boot the kernel. you will see language selection with the wrong architecture
[15:31] <varunendra> wonderworld, pretty sure you won't it's the screen AFTER syslinux (or isolinux) has done its job. There is no Grub booting at all in the live session.
[15:32] <wonderworld> ok i see. i used to have exactly the same problem with a 64bit vm. was no isolinux though
[15:32] <Fogan136> bonjour
[15:33] <varunendra> wonderworld, that would be the case if you try to boot a preinstalled virtual disk in a VM with wrong architecture.
[15:34] <wonderworld> yes, that was my situation
[15:34] <varunendra> wonderworld, so.. just testing or do you actually run your Ubuntu only in VMs :D
[15:35] <wonderworld> no it was actually a debian vm server, i moved from one machine to another
[15:36] <wonderworld> didn't work on the new machine, becuase the CPU didn't have vt-x extensions.
[15:37] <wonderworld> host machine is 64bit. host os is64 bit but it could run 32bit vms only.
[15:37] <varunendra> wonderworld, that sometimes sucks. I once wasted about a whole day creating a Remastersys image of a 64 bit installation, then created a Live USB with it. Later I realized it was useless on most of the computers I had to use it on, because they were 32 bit :(
[15:38] <varunendra> since then, I always remember to use 32 bit iso if I'm intending to create a live USB with it.
[15:39] <wonderworld> yes, i reinstalled the whole machine, because i thought it would be more work to port it somehow :(
[15:39] <varunendra> definitely :)
[15:41] <MastermindL> hi
[15:42] <varunendra> Hi MastermindL
[15:42] <MastermindL> can you help me with one thing? I'm super new at ubuntu
[15:42] <virtuaposta> MastermindL, ask please
[15:42] <varunendra> !ask | MastermindL
[15:44] <MastermindL> I'm using ubuntu on a USB stick, and I am trying to access a HDD, I had no problem at first, I could mount it then I wanted to format it to FAT and unmounted it and did that, but now it doesn't appear in the devices thing, I can't find it anywhere anymore
[15:45] <MastermindL> after unmounting and formatting it, it has banished
[15:46] <varunendra> MastermindL, is it a Live USB or a full install?
[15:47] <MastermindL> live usb
[15:47] <moondoggy> Can someone recommend a printer that will work on Ubuntu 13.04?
[15:47] <varunendra> MastermindL, please give us the pastebin link of the output of "parted -l"
[15:48] <moondoggy> And/or 12.04?
[15:49] <virtuaposta> MastermindL, also include fdisk -l output in pastebin that varunendra asked for
[15:49] <MastermindL> how do you get to the command line? that was also another question I had lol
[15:49] <OerHeks> moondoggy, see openprinting  database or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[15:50] <virtuaposta> MastermindL, search / open terminal or Alt+F2 type terminal and enter :D lol
[15:50] <varunendra> moondoggy, I have used Samsung SCX4300, it's an MFP but probably outdated. Works on both 12.04 and 13.10 though
[15:50] <G__81> Hi. I see reports stating that Ubuntu Unity 8 would be QML based so does that mean all default applications (gnome-terminal, Nautlius etc) would be changed to Konsole, dolphin and so on ?
[15:50] <varunendra> MastermindL, Ctrl-Alt-T
[15:50] <geirha> With Alt-F2 you'd run x-terminal-emulator, not terminal
[15:51] <virtuaposta> geirha, thanks for corrections, yeah it should be "gnome-terminal" as i suspect that MastermindL must be using desktop edition :)
[15:51] <moondoggy> Thanks, OerHeks and varunendra .
[15:51] <OerHeks> !14.04| G__81
[15:52] <varunendra> geirha, virtuaposta it is "gnome-terminal" in the Alt-F2 command box
[15:52] <virtuaposta> varunendra, ^^
[15:52] <varunendra> :D
[15:52] <geirha> varunendra: Yes, though Alt+F2 -> "x-terminal-emulator" will work in "all" the desktop environments
[15:52] <G__81> OerHeks: i have gone through that  but post 14.04 whats the take ?
[15:53] <MastermindL> nothing happens when I type "parted -l" or "fdisk -l"
[15:53] <varunendra> yup, that's true (and a life saver actually)
[15:53] <varunendra> MastermindL, both of them need "sudo"
[15:54] <virtuaposta> MastermindL, is at hunt today varunendra and geirha :D lol
[15:54] <varunendra> MastermindL, sorry I missed that earlier. The commands would be : "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -l"
[15:55] <virtuaposta> MastermindL, please run the command with sudo as varunendra suggested
[15:55] <MastermindL> ok ok there's something here, I can see the drive here, let me figure out how to copy this and put it on pastebin since the computer doesn't have access to the internet by itself
[15:56] <moondoggy> OerHeks: Any thoughts on a newer Samsung?  The 1520 is supposed to work on 12.04 and 13.04, but it's no longer available.
[15:56] <virtuaposta> moondoggy, supposed to work means? it's not getting detected kind of?
[15:57] <moondoggy> I haven't tried.  I need to order one ASAP, and I have had trouble returning items because they don't work on Linux.
[15:57] <lvleph> can someone give me a link or something that tells me how to switch two key location using xkb?
[15:57] <moondoggy> Amazon/whoever want you to use Windows.
[15:58] <virtuaposta> no as such restrictions observed from my end till date... can you explain more about the issue moondoggy?
[15:58] <bekks> moondoggy: Works fine on Linux here.
[15:59] <moondoggy> bekks: Whick printer works?
[16:00] <lvleph> I have never had any issues with printers on linux. moondoggy
[16:00] <bekks> moondoggy: I was referring to "Amazon/whoever want you to use Windows".
[16:00] <lvleph> And my last Laser printer was a Samsung SCX something
[16:00] <lvleph> Samsung actually tends to provide drivers for linux
[16:01] <deborgia> yep..
[16:01] <moondoggy> Oh, gotcha, bekks.
[16:01] <moondoggy> Wow, Amazon actually says that the 2165W works on linux.  I didn't think they'd heard of linux.
[16:01] <moondoggy> Thanks, friends.
[16:02] <white-bird88> thats fine
[16:02] <lvleph> Amazon using a linux kernel in the Kindle.
[16:02] <varunendra> moondoggy, have you also tried ThinkPenguin? https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/catalog
[16:02] <white-bird88> @lvleph Kindle?
[16:02] <white-bird88> ereader or tablet?
[16:03] <lvleph> white-bird88, I think both. I could be wrong.
[16:03] <lvleph> It would make more sense on the tablet though.
[16:03] <MastermindL> this is a nightmare, it seems it only recognizes two USB ports and I need one for the USB stick and the other for the mouse, can't even use a keyboard, so I see no way to copy that file out of the computer
[16:03] <white-bird88> yes.. but kernel is essential to both devices though!
[16:04] <crabboke> I accidentally clicked "kill" on one of the program in the taskbar and now desktop items and bg have dissapeared
[16:04] <crabboke> how do I get them back?
[16:04] <lvleph> Yep, the Kindle Fire is based on Android apparently.
[16:04] <lvleph> according to this anyway http://www.pocketables.com/2012/05/with-the-linux-30-kernel-ice-cream-sandwich-is-finally-ready-for-the-kindle-fire.html
[16:04] <varunendra> MastermindL, how many ports does this system have?
[16:05] <lvleph> and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kindle_fire
[16:05] <virtuaposta> crabboke, considering you referring top taskbar/panel, run this in terminal "sudo killall unity-panel-service"
[16:05] <white-bird88> yes
[16:06] <lvleph> yep white-bird88 even the paperwhite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Kindle
[16:07] <MastermindL> it has 12 but ubuntu only seems to recognize the two frontal ones, on the other hand when I go to the bios or something it recognizes them all and I can use computer and mouse no problem
[16:07] <lvleph> Can someone give me a link or something that tells me how to switch two key location using xkb?
[16:07] <white-bird88> see.. thats the power of linux. :D
[16:07] <moondoggy> varunendra: I did try that page, but they only list inkjets right now.
[16:08] <varunendra> MastermindL, is "Legacy USB" support enabled in the BIOS? Although I don't understand why it won't recognize in normal mode.
[16:08] <lvleph> moondoggy, Samsung laser jets definitely work. Atleast the SCX series
[16:09] <moondoggy> Thanks, lvleph, all.
[16:10] <lvleph> I was just about to send him a link too
[16:10] <lvleph> oh well
[16:10] <MastermindL> I don't know, the motherboard is new though
[16:10] <lvleph> I found 40 laser jets by Samsung that work
[16:10] <varunendra> MastermindL, how many of these are USB 2 ?
[16:11] <varunendra> lvleph, too late now :P
[16:11] <MastermindL> hmmm most of them are 2
[16:11] <MastermindL> it seems the ones tht work are usb 3
[16:12] <lvleph> varunendra, the latest Kernels support USB 3
[16:12] <varunendra> MastermindL, and the output of "lsusb" shows how many "hubs" ?
[16:12] <lvleph> since  2.6.31 in fact
[16:12] <varunendra> lvleph, even 2.6 supports them I think, perhaps that...
[16:12] <varunendra> yup :P
[16:13] <MastermindL> omg, I found another one that works, the usb 3 work apparently
[16:13] <lvleph> Well then that is great
[16:13] <varunendra> MastermindL, 12 can be confusing :)
[16:13] <lvleph> Of all the ones that you want working USB 3 is the one
[16:13] <MastermindL> yeah
[16:13] <MastermindL> ok but it's weird
[16:13] <TJ-> MastermindL: What's the make/model of the motherboard?
[16:14] <lvleph> I am guessing gigabit
[16:14] <MastermindL> gigabyte
[16:14] <lvleph> boom!
[16:14] <MastermindL> yes
[16:14] <MastermindL> how did you know?
[16:14] <lvleph> they make crazy mbs
[16:14] <TJ-> MastermindL: That is no help, tell us the exact model
[16:14] <MastermindL> 990XA-UD3
[16:14] <varunendra> MastermindL, check "lsusb". Sometimes even though it is a USB3 port, it internally connects the device to a USB 2 hub, and that "internal switching" causes a lot of problems, at least delays
[16:15] <TJ-> MastermindL: What CPU is installed?
[16:15] <lvleph> Can someone give me a link or something that tells me how to switch two key location using xkb?
[16:15] <varunendra> lvleph, "they make crazy mbs" -- lol !!
[16:15] <MastermindL> FX6300
[16:16] <TJ-> MastermindL: Your issue a well-known one for AMD-based systems. The Input/Output devices have their own Memory Management Unit (IOMMU).
[16:16] <sasa_> can install on xubuntu this game: http://www.playdeb.net/install/vdrift ?
[16:16] <TJ-> MastermindL: Many buggy BIOS/Firmware implementations cause problems especially for memory-mapped built-in devices
[16:17] <varunendra> TJ-, certanily not ALL AMD based systems! I love the Asus boards :D
[16:17] <MastermindL> well that sucks, anyway that's the thing: http://pastebin.com/tZ4vQiBA
[16:18] <TJ-> MastermindL: There are two things you need to do: 1) Enter BIOS and ensure that "IOMMU" option is *disabled*  2) Add to the kernel's command-line the option "iommu=soft"
[16:18] <MastermindL> that 2064MB HDD is the one that it can't recognize
[16:18] <TJ-> MastermindL:  " sudo sed -i  's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 iommu=soft\2/' /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub"
[16:19] <TJ-> varunendra: Those with IOMMUs suffer quite alot because the firmwares are often incorrectly declaring to the kernel the memory-mappings
[16:20] <varunendra> TJ-, I guess I'm lucky enough to not having encountered yet :)
[16:21] <varunendra> MastermindL, do you have any important data to rescue on that disk?
[16:21] <MastermindL> no, actually I want to use that disk to rescue data from the other disk
[16:21] <varunendra> MastermindL, try Gparted to recreate a fresh partition table, then partition(s)
[16:22] <TJ-> MastermindL: I'd bet the reason the disk drive isn't reconised is also due to the IOMMU issue, since the controller likely can't be addressed. This issue can also prevent network interfaces working correctly.
[16:22] <TJ-> s/reconised/recognised/
[16:22] <L0UDmouth> TJ-: I know
[16:23] <L0UDmouth> TJ-: You can't do that
[16:23] <MastermindL> I see, so if I disable it on the bios maybe it's fixed?
[16:24] <MastermindL> And what is gparted?
[16:24] <varunendra> MastermindL, Alt-F2 > type "Gparted". It'll come up itself :)
[16:25] <TJ-> MastermindL: As I said, do those 2 steps, and if the issue is IOMMU then all the devices will work correctly
[16:25] <MastermindL> ok I had to use sudo, I am in this gparted thing and it seems I can see that device here
[16:25] <varunendra> MastermindL, it is Graphical frontend to the "parted" program - a disk partitioning tool. But try what TJ- suggested first. I'd be curious to see the result :)
[16:26] <MastermindL> ok
[16:28] <MastermindL> "IOMMU controller" is already disabled
[16:28] <varunendra> sounds like a wise decision by Gigabyte :P
[16:29] <MastermindL> hmmm I just noticed something, here it says "onchip sata port 4/5 type" is set as IDE, that HDD is on the port 4, would that be a problem?
[16:30] <varunendra> MastermindL, are all those disks connected by yourself? Sometimes a pair of ports are meant to be only used for raid configuration, usually differently coloured
[16:30] <mustmodify> Using ubuntu server, when I go to SSH, some domains I frequently use tab-complete, others do not. Why?
[16:30] <MastermindL> yes, I think this raid think is deactivated
[16:30] <varunendra> MastermindL, that shouldn't be a problem
[16:30] <MastermindL> ok
[16:31] <varunendra> MastermindL, but you should change it to SATA or AHCI mode to get the full performance
[16:31] <TJ-> MastermindL: Good, so ensure you have "iommu=soft" on the kernel command line
[16:34] <MastermindL> okay so I type: " sudo sed -i  's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 iommu=soft\2/' /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub"
[16:34] <TJ-> MastermindL: Yes, that will change the default boot options to include the soft IOMMU
[16:39] <MastermindL> it doesn't do anything, it says "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[16:40] <TJ-> MastermindL: Where are you doing it from? The command assumes a boot from installed system. Are you using a Live ISO image?
[16:40] <MastermindL> yes
[16:40] <TJ-> MastermindL: Ahh, in which case, as the Live ISO starts you need to edit it's boot options for the kernel to add "iommu=soft" manually.
[16:41] <TJ-> MastermindL: I came in late; didn't realise you were still in the installer phase.
[16:41] <shubhamjain> I am facing a stange problem. Ever since I updated to 13.10,embedded videos won't run. They are just a blank space saying I need flash 11.1 or above and I am pretty sure I am running the latest.
[16:42] <MastermindL> ok hmmm... so where would that be?
[16:44] <bekks> shubhamjain: So which flash version do you run?
[16:44] <bekks> shubhamjain: And which browser do you use?
[16:44] <mustmodify> Using ubuntu server, when I go to SSH, some domains I frequently use tab-complete, others do not. Why?
[16:44] <whoever_> hi all, does anyone know of and ide that will allow me a single code base  for cross platfom coding
[16:45] <shubhamjain> bekks: chromium. I guess the flash should have updated itself when I upgraded, but even then I installed using "alien" and the latest flash rpm package.
[16:45] <mustmodify> whoever_: hunh?
[16:46] <mustmodify> whoever_: oh, not your codebase. The IDEs.
[16:46] <mustmodify> There are some good java IDEs.
[16:46] <MastermindL> varunendra, do you think I'd be able to access the disk again doing something from that gparted?
[16:46] <mustmodify> they're cross-platform.
[16:46] <mustmodify> eclipse. Not my favorite but lots of people like it.
[16:46] <MastermindL> like formatting it again in another format
[16:46] <bekks> shubhamjain: Go into the plugin settings of chromium and check which adobe flash version is being used.
[16:47] <shubhamjain> bekks: Adobe Flash Player - Version: 11.2
[16:47] <shubhamjain> bekks: "To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 11.1.0 or greater is installed." Is what the embedded videos say.
[16:48] <varunendra> MastermindL, if what TJ- mentioned can be the reason, then I'm not sure, so I think you should try his suggestion first. That is - try the parameter on live session
[16:48] <mustmodify> But if you're looking for IDEs that work with multiple OSes, I'm not sure having a single code-base is a good requirement.
[16:48] <TJ-> MastermindL: When the Live ISO starts, and you have the options "Install" and "Try", you can highlight one or the other and then there is a key-press for 'advanced' options (or editing command line) I forget which, and that allows adding options to the kernel command line
[16:49] <bekks> shubhamjain: Can you provide a screenshot of that section of chromium?
[16:49] <MastermindL> ok
[16:49] <TJ-> MastermindL: It's a long time since I've used the live ISOs so they've changed a bit
[16:49] <mustmodify> whoever_: consider perenial favorites like sublime, or for more advanced users, vim.
[16:49] <varunendra> MastermindL, how to add your option to boot line : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:49] <helpmeNOW> please help i have ust installed but when i try to update my ubuntu 13.10 i get  " E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:49] <TJ-> MastermindL: Maybe someone else is more familiar and can give you better directions :)
[16:50] <chairman_meow> hello
[16:50] <chairman_meow>  how do I install mysql via aptget?
[16:51] <bekks> chairman_meow: sudo apt-get install ...?
[16:51] <MastermindL> so I just add "IOMMU=soft"?
[16:51] <helpmeNOW> ?
[16:51] <varunendra> TJ-, MastermindL , it is as simple as pressing 'Any' key during the splash screen > press F6 (or any other listed key at the bottom) > press Esc > type your option > Press Ctrl-X
[16:51] <hoihe> Ahoy! Does anyone know how to fix no sound in Firefox flash-based plugins? In particular, Youtube
[16:51] <varunendra> MastermindL, I think the case of the letters matter, so keep them all small letters
[16:51] <whoever_> mustmodify: yes the code base, ie same code, for win, lin, mac
[16:51] <helpmeNOW>  when i try to update my ubuntu 13.10 i get  " E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:52] <TJ-> varunendra: Thanks :)
[16:52] <whoever_> mustmodify: i can do it with java but when i get into  things that are more os dependent like the file system, java becomes a head ache
[16:52] <varunendra> TJ-, I stole it from here sometime ago : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions :p
[16:52] <joshua> hello room
[16:53] <DaveVE3> what are the permissions on  /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:53] <helpmeNOW> HELP PLEASE
[16:53] <Meerkat> hey. I wanna add a pgp key server to seahorse ( hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 ) but seahorse won't let me click OK to add it. The button is, uh, blued out.
[16:53] <DaveVE3> hey helpmeNOW      /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:53] <Guest91381> how do i get my nick to stay joshua
[16:54] <MastermindL> I added iommu=soft but still the HDD does not appear in devices
[16:54] <bekks> helpmeNOW: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:54] <varunendra> TJ-, MastermindL , sorry it is actually "Enter" key, not "Ctrl-X" in the last
[16:54] <DaveVE3> hey helpmeNOW ... what are the permissions on  /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:54] <TJ-> MastermindL: How about the USB 2 ports?
[16:54] <varunendra> MastermindL, then go for Gparted. There is nothing to save on the disk anyway ;)
 i am new to ubuntu tell me how to find it please
[16:55] <MastermindL> they still don't work...
[16:55] <DaveVE3> do you know how to use terminal and su to root?
[16:55] <TJ-> Meerkat: I think you need to omit the protocol (hkp://) and just put the hostname
[16:55] <tedd_> hi running LXLE and some of the conkys won't go to transparent help?
[16:55] <mustmodify> whoever_: please go over your requirements with me.
[16:55] <varunendra> MastermindL, just curious - have you checked "lsusb"?
[16:55] <TJ-> MastermindL: In a terminal what does this show: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[16:55] <Seveas> Meerkat: just use the hostname, not the url
 yes tell what to type in the terminal and i will follow you
[16:56] <DaveVE3> ls -l  /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:57] <helpmeNOW>  i get " total 99248 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7461118 oct.  17 00:50 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3821579 oct.  16 20:41 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_i18n_Translation-en -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   664100 oct.  17 00:50 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   404348 oct.  15 18:46 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_di
[16:57] <Guest91381> can some one help me? i have a question where do u learn more about linux command line stuff
[16:57] <Meerkat> TJ-, Seveas I just tried "pgp.mit.edu:11371" as well as "pgp.mit.edu". Neither are addable.
[16:57] <Seveas> helpmeNOW: use a pastebin.
[16:57] <TJ-> Meerkat: Strange, I recall adding hosts that way, let me try here
[16:57] <MastermindL> I did it now, what should I see?
[16:58] <tedd_> need help plz
[16:58] <cloneG> hello I installed a LDAP server on ubuntu following this tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-configure-a-basic-ldap-server-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps the point is that now I want to use samba4 instead to build a DC how do I remove LDAP Server without damaging samba4 embedded LDAP?
[16:58] <varunendra> MastermindL, what did you do? "cat /proc/cmdline" ?
[16:58] <glitsj16> Meerkat: you have 2 boxes, one for the hostname, one for the port #
[16:58] <Seveas> Meerkat: hmm, just using pgp.mit.edu and filling in the port in the textentry next to it works for me. Make sure to pick http keyserver
[16:58] <helpmeNOW> total 99248 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7461118 oct.  17 00:50 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3821579 oct.  16 20:41 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_i18n_Translation-en -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   664100 oct.  17 00:50 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   404348 oct.  15 18:46 archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy
[16:58] <Guest91381> whats the cat command do?
[16:59] <Seveas> helpmeNOW: use a bloody pastebin!
[16:59] <MastermindL> I think I messed up the HDD somehow when I formatted it, on the gparted when I select it it's all gray and it says "unallocated"
[16:59] <tedd_> running LXLE and can't get some cony theams  to run in transparent
[16:59] <Seveas> Guest91381: it meows.
[16:59] <MastermindL> partition unallocated, file system unallocated
[16:59] <Meerkat> glitsj16, I have "key server type" with only one option, custom. And then the field for the "host".
[16:59] <TJ-> Meerkat: in the Add dialog do you see 3 input fields: "Key Server Type" (multiple-choice), "Host" and ":" (port) - text boxes?
[16:59] <varunendra> MastermindL, that's normal when something is wrong with a partition/drive
[16:59] <Guest91381> lol
[17:00] <Seveas> Meerkat: which Ubuntu version, which seahorse version?
[17:00] <Meerkat> TJ-, only key server type and host. Seahorse 3.8.2 Xubuntu 13.10.
[17:00] <Seveas> hmm, I have the same, odd
[17:00] <TJ-> MastermindL: We need you to show us what it says? But do you see in it "iommu=soft" - if not, then you didn't correctly add that option to the boot command line
[17:00] <MastermindL> and is there a button to fix it? ^
[17:00] <tedd_> err conky themes
[17:00] <cloneG> Hello?
[17:00] <varunendra> MastermindL, in "Device" menu, choose to create a partition table. Make SUPER SURE that you have selected the correct disk, else you know now what may happen :P
[17:00] <DaveVE3> hey helpmeNOW
[17:00] <whoever_> mustmodify: should i pm it to you or do it in here
[17:00] <DaveVE3> wanna provate chat?
[17:00] <TJ-> Meerkat: OK, for type you don't see "HTTP Key Server" as an option?
  sorry i dont know how
[17:01] <cloneG> I installed a LDAP server on ubuntu following this tutorial: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-configure-a-basic-ldap-server-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps the point is that now I want to use samba4 instead to build a DC how do I remove LDAP Server without damaging samba4 embedded LDAP?
[17:01] <cloneG> is it safe?
[17:01] <Seveas> !repeatg | cloneG
[17:01] <helpmeNOW> yes Dav
[17:01] <mustmodify> whoever_: when you say "the code base" do you mean the editor's code?
[17:01] <cloneG> pipe¿?
[17:01] <mustmodify> whoever_: or your code?
[17:01] <adal> hi, is there a state of the art backup tool available for linux? basically I only need timed backups, archives (ie keep last x versions), 1:1 backups, synchronization, backups of changed files & folders only
[17:02] <cloneG> Seveas could you clarify?
[17:02] <whoever_> mustmodify: i mean my code
[17:02] <TJ-> adal: "rsync"
[17:02] <MastermindL> I did create a partition but it shows unallocated again
[17:02] <cloneG> Seveas oh its me the one repeating!
[17:02] <cloneG> Seveas sorry
[17:02] <MastermindL> a partition table, sorry
  please tell me what to do can you help me in facebook please ??
[17:03] <varunendra> MastermindL, now can you Right-click in the allocated space > Create partition ?
[17:03] <DaveVE3> you should see a chat window
[17:03] <varunendra> MastermindL, *unallocated space
[17:03] <Seveas> !repeat | cloneG
[17:03] <Seveas> cloneG: well, I was trying to make the bot tell you not to repeat your question
[17:03] <Seveas> but the bot is dead
[17:04] <cloneG> lol
[17:04] <yash069> lol
[17:04] <adal> thanks TJ-
[17:04] <adal> will try that
[17:05] <Seveas> !bot
[17:05] <varunendra> MastermindL, did you create a single FAT partition occupying the full space earlier?
[17:05] <cloneG> Seveas still waiting for the solving -threats bot...do you have any?
[17:05] <DaveVE3> or right click on my name and open a dialog window
[17:05] <DaveVE3> I don't use facebook
[17:05] <Seveas> oh, hella lag...
[17:05] <MastermindL> varunendra, it stil doesn't let me, it says it has no patition table even after I create it, and I think I did that, yeah
[17:06] <Meerkat> TJ-, no, "custom" is the only option in that drop down box. This is what I see: http://i.imgur.com/4XumyV8.jpg
[17:06] <MastermindL> partition table: unrecognized
[17:08] <varunendra> MastermindL, did it apply the change right away? I don't remember if it does with partition table or not. For partition creation, it needs to "Apply" the changes first.
[17:08] <TJ-> Meerkat: I wonder if seahorse expects "/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon" to be running? Check the process list to see if it is there
[17:09] <MastermindL> I click apply and it does something, the strange thing is the other HDD seems to make some noise when I do, but the one I am applying it to doesn't
[17:09] <TJ-> MastermindL: Are you sure you've got the correct disk selected ?
[17:10] <varunendra> MastermindL, that's normal. After each change, it probes all the available disks again to be sure it is addressing them correctly.
[17:10] <MastermindL> yes I'm sure...
[17:10] <cloneG> nobody?
[17:10] <MastermindL> and ok
[17:10] <chronic> Hi, how can I resolve unmet dependencies
[17:10] <mguy> Where should I set TERM=xterm-256color in 12.04?
[17:10] <Seveas> chronic: by meeting them :)
[17:10] <MastermindL> so the HDD is destroyed? it worked well just a couple of hours ago
[17:11] <varunendra> MastermindL, others make 'More' noise because they do have partitions on them. The current one doesn't have much to be tested.
[17:11] <Seveas> chronic: generally by disabling broken PPA's you enabled and trying to undo the damage they did to your system.
[17:11] <MastermindL> ok ok
[17:11] <varunendra> MastermindL, did it ask you which kind of partition table to create? (default is msdos)
[17:12] <TJ-> MastermindL: in a terminal do "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" then check the disk health with "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX" where X is the correct drive letter
[17:12] <MastermindL> yes I set msdos
[17:12] <whoever_> mustmodify: did i lose you ?
[17:12] <chronic> Seveas : there is nothing related to PPA listed in sources.list file
[17:12] <Seveas> chronic: how about sources.list.d?
[17:13] <varunendra> MastermindL, which version of Ubuntu is it?
[17:13] <Seveas> !pm | Guest91381
[17:13] <MastermindL> 12.04 LTS
[17:14] <chronic> Seveas : http://pastebin.com/wrEbwxYm
[17:14] <MastermindL> I can't install that, it doesn't have internet
[17:14] <Guest91381> how do i upgrade to 13.10
[17:14] <DaveVE3> hey helpmeNOW
[17:14] <Seveas> chronic: well there you go. Remove those, uninstall things you installed from PPAs and try again
[17:14] <Seveas> !upgrade | Guest91381
[17:14] <DaveVE3> Have I resolved your problem?
[17:15] <DaveVE3> hey helpmeNOW   Have I resolved your problem?
[17:15] <chronic> Seveas : I dont have much idea about which one do I need to remove ?
[17:15] <varunendra> MastermindL, does the machine not have an internet connection or just that Ubuntu is unable to use it?
[17:16] <MastermindL> I didn't try
[17:16] <Seveas> chronic: well, let's start with what you were trying to install What was the command you ran and pastebin the full output
[17:17] <varunendra> MastermindL, do you wish to try or install the program otherwise to test the disk?
[17:17] <frankenmint> hello everyone
[17:17] <helpmeNOW>  <DaveVE3> yes thanks
[17:18] <frankenmint> how come I cannot set my machine to a static ip
[17:18] <hillary_> my locahost server now showing You don't have permission to access / on this server: ubuntu 12.04
[17:18] <frankenmint> all options are greyed out in network connections
[17:18] <chronic> Seveas : http://pastebin.com/PS5kjxqn
[17:18] <hillary_> i have been using well untill now
[17:19] <hillary_> i might have done something wrong
[17:19] <hillary_> please help
[17:19] <Seveas> chronic: apt-cache policy kdelibs5-dev libkde3support4
[17:19] <Seveas> (and pastebin output)
[17:19] <Ottetal> øapiosjfd
[17:19] <MastermindL> yeah I will try, I'm trying to see if I can internet
[17:20] <Seveas> Ottetal: nice password. You may want to change it :)
[17:20] <petzup> i have problem with hibernate ubuntu 13.10
[17:20] <petzup> any solution around that?
[17:20] <hillary_> Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[17:20] <varunendra> MastermindL, is it a wired connection or wireless?
[17:20] <chronic> Seveas : http://pastebin.com/2Sp59iGD
[17:22] <petzup> get stuck on s2disk snapshoting
[17:22] <frankenmint> how come ubuntu wont let me set my IP address to static?
[17:22] <hillary_> Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[17:23] <hillary_> that is the message i get when i go to localhost in the browser
[17:23] <Meerkat> TJ-, gnome-keyring-daemon was disabled from startup and not running. I enabled all those entries and restarted computer just in case. I still cannot add key servers, but a bunch of trusted certificates showed up in Seahorse.
[17:23] <MastermindL> ok installing
[17:25] <MastermindL> it says something about postfix configuration, what should I do here, I can't even click anything?
[17:25] <brasileiro> hi, i'm trying to connect an external hdd but i'm getting from dmesg the following message: "[40974.506125] usb 3-2: device descriptor read/all, error -71" followed by "[40974.506160] hub 3-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" any ideas on how can I fix it?
[17:26] <Seveas> chronic: as I expected, you have some things installed from a PPA you've since disabled.
[17:26] <TJ-> Meerkat: Time to search the bug tracker I think!
[17:27] <chronic> Seveas : Which and How to remove those ?
[17:27] <Seveas> chronic: or even from newer Ubuntu releases than the precise you have. It's probably easiest to upgrade to 13.10 ig that throws no dependency errors. Otherwse you'll have to manually downgrade a load of packages, which is also tricky.
[17:27] <Seveas> chronic: but you basically messed up your system too much for me to want to touch it further.
[17:28] <varunendra> MastermindL, I've no experience with this tool, so can't suggest anything. Maybe TJ- can
[17:28] <MastermindL> TJ-, the command doesn't work, I don't think it installed it right, the terminal went into a screen that says "postfix configuration"
[17:28] <chronic> Seveas, is there any other way to upgrade the system other that from live usb ?
[17:28] <MastermindL> but I can't type o click anything
[17:29] <Seveas> !upgrade | chronic
[17:29] <MastermindL> ok thanks for all the help anyway varunendra
[17:29] <TJ-> MastermindL: That's the debian installer. You can navigate the input fields using TAB and press Enter to move on
[17:29] <varunendra> MastermindL, did that message appear during installation?
[17:30] <TJ-> MastermindL: Generally you should select the "local server" option
[17:30] <hillary_> any help?
[17:30] <MastermindL> oh
[17:32] <MastermindL> TJ-, pastebin.com/rxvy0LtS
[17:33] <MastermindL> my HDD is old or something :(
[17:33] <joshua__> whats up ppl
[17:34] <roadrunner> GUYS IS THERE ANY PROGRAMME ALTERNATİVE TO ADOBE DREAMWEAVER IN UBUNTU
[17:34] <roadrunner> ...
[17:34] <roadrunner> ...
[17:34] <roadrunner> ...
[17:34] <roadrunner> ...
[17:34] <roadrunner> ...
[17:35] <MastermindL> What do you think, TJ-?
[17:35] <Seveas> hillary_: check the apache logs, they should give you a clue.
[17:35] <Seveas> joshua__: the sky.
[17:35] <Seveas> roadrunner: f. off
[17:36] <Seveas> flooding like that is not appreciated at all.
[17:36] <hillary_> thanks Seveas i have gone there
[17:36] <roadrunner> ....
[17:36] <TJ-> MastermindL: "SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED"
[17:36] <roadrunner> ....
[17:36] <roadrunner> ....
[17:36] <roadrunner> ....
[17:36] <roadrunner> ....
[17:36] <roadrunner> ....
[17:36] <roadrunner> ....
[17:36] <hillary_> sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www/folder-name sudo chmod -R 755 /var/www
[17:36] <roadrunner> GUYS IS THERE ANY PROGRAMME ALTERNATİVE TO ADOBE DREAMWEAVER IN UBUNTU
[17:36] <roadrunner> ...
[17:36] <roadrunner> ...
[17:36] <roadrunner> ...
[17:36] <TJ-> roadrunner: stop that
[17:36] <roadrunner> ...
[17:37] <roadrunner> ...
[17:37] <Seveas> !ops | roadrunner needs a spanking
[17:37] <joshua__> jeez whats with all the flooding
[17:37] <roadrunner> WHY THIS CHANNEL CREATED FOR?
[17:37] <MastermindL> so why do you think it doesn't work? :(
[17:37] <roadrunner> TO SWEAR TO EACH ONE OR HELP?
[17:38] <UltimateNate> roadrunner, Get out
[17:38] <Seveas> roadrunner: stop shouting in all caps, stop flooding.   I'd switch to the command-line so there's more information available
[17:40] <MastermindL> yes, ok...
[17:40] <brasileiro> hi, i'm trying to connect an external hdd but i'm getting from dmesg the following message: "[40974.506125] usb 3-2: device descriptor read/all, error -71" followed by "[40974.506160] hub 3-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" any ideas on how can I fix it?
[17:40] <TJ-> !hi | roadrunner
[17:41] <Wobbo> I use 13.10 64 bit. Wine crashes. I only get a few seconds the see the configuration. I have tried several Wine versions. Any tips?
[17:41] <UltimateNate> roadrunner, Fail Trolls aren't allowed in #ubuntu.
[17:41] <Cydrobolt> Seveas, sorry man
[17:41] <Cydrobolt> I was ungrouping my nick
[17:41] <Cydrobolt> My nicks*
[17:41] <Cydrobolt> roadrunner, pls no caps
[17:42] <Seveas> brasileiro: try it on another computer, or try it directly plugged into the pc if it now goes via a hub
[17:42] <TJ-> MastermindL: also, you might check the kernel log for indications that the disk operation itself is failing. From a terminal you can 'follow' the log file as it is written whilst performing the operation that appears to fail. That way you can associate logged events with the actions you take. "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" ... then try partitioning again with gparted and see if there is any obvious error
[17:43] <MastermindL> okay btw I just noticed when Gparted loads it says "/dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label"
[17:43] <brasileiro> Seveas: already tried in another pc and he's connected directly at the notebook
[17:43] <MastermindL> sdb is that drive
[17:43] <Seveas> brasileiro: and in another pc it works?
[17:43] <brasileiro> Seveas: yeap, like a charm... at windows..
[17:43] <joshua__> i just wish i could dual boot windows and ubuntu
[17:44] <joshua__> but i cant ever get it installed
[17:44] <varunendra> MastermindL, is that disk two years old?
[17:44] <TJ-> MastermindL: That sounds as if the disk has a non-msdos or GPT partition table layout
[17:44] <Seveas> brasileiro: that's really odd. Maybe a usb3 disk on a usb2 port? Try a different port. Or try accessing it from an ubuntu live cd on the other system to rule out a hw problem on the notebook
[17:44] <joshua__> i wonder if it isn't my nic making it difficult
[17:44] <cloneG> I followed this thread to install samba4 on ubuntu 12.04: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146198
[17:44] <cloneG> in this thread I finally found why samba4 session is not starting: https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2013-January/089869.html in short it is because I installed LDAP server aswell and both samba4 and LDAP server use the same port! I need to uninstall LDAP server but I fear uninstalling it will remove samba4 ldap module aswell. any advice?
[17:45] <MastermindL> 2 years old? more like 10
[17:45] <varunendra> :P
[17:45] <TJ-> MastermindL: I'm going to go back to my original suggestion; IOMMU. The symptoms you describe fit perfectly with the issues that no IOMMU raises
[17:45] <MastermindL> jesus
[17:45] <TJ-> MastermindL: Can you please pastebin "cat /proc/cmdline"
[17:45] <cloneG> would it be wise to change ports?
[17:45] <brasileiro> Seveas: you see.. at another port he appears at lsusb but i can't mount it =/
[17:46] <TJ-> MastermindL: The typical symptom is, the device (disk, network, etc.) is there and the OS sees it, but any communication coming *from*  the device is lost
[17:46] <Seveas> brasileiro: what's the error message when mounting? What's the filesystem?
[17:47] <roadrunner> public static void main(String[] args) {    if(int==0) channel'ubuntu'==stop();  }
[17:47] <roadrunner> :)
[17:47] <brasileiro> Seveas: and the messages at dmesg are here http://pastebin.com/8fsizinD
[17:47] <TJ-> MastermindL: Don't worry about age; I'm currently working on an 11 year old mobo that can't boot over USB from anything other than floppy-disk images on the USB flash! I'm having to create custom boot installations to make them work
[17:48] <MastermindL> lol that's crazy
[17:48] <Seveas> brasileiro: ok, so that's usb 3.0 allright
[17:48] <bakteria> Yesterday I bought a gtx 750ti for my htpc (headless 12.04) but I cannot get it to work with the graphicscard plugged in. I booted with nomodeset kernel parameter and installed the latest nvidia beta drivers manually but I still get black screen on boot.
[17:48] <MastermindL> anyway this HDD was working perfectly before I formatted it, so it's weird
[17:48] <MastermindL> I didn't do anything else
[17:48] <TJ-> MastermindL: Did you format it from the same motherboard?
[17:48] <MastermindL> anyway I have to go now, thanks for all the help and see you later
[17:48] <MastermindL> yes
[17:49] <brasileiro> Seveas: fdisk doesn't seems to find it..
[17:49] <MastermindL> I did it from the same ubuntu
[17:49] <brasileiro> Seveas: only lsusb
[17:49] <MastermindL> I format then suddenly it disappears from devices
[17:49] <Seveas> brasileiro: which Ubuntu version?
[17:49] <brasileiro> Seveas: 13.10
[17:49] <TJ-> MastermindL: Sounds like an incorrect partition table got written
[17:49] <MastermindL> and why I can't write a new one?
[17:50] <varunendra> TJ-, to me it seems that MastermindL's disk's MBR area is physically corrupt. GParted wrote a fresh partition table successfully (as per its report), but couldn't recognize that itself then.
[17:50] <joshua__> wish i could install ubuntu on my other hard drive
[17:51] <varunendra> also, it was the hard disk that is 10+ years old TJ- :)
[17:51] <TJ-> MastermindL: I'd do "sudo sgdisk --zap /dev/sdX" to wipe any GPT or MBR or anything else away
[17:51] <TJ-> varunendra: Yeah, I've got a crate of MFM/SCSI/IDE drives here (about 40) some dating back to the 1980s
[17:52] <Anonymoususa> hello
[17:52] <Seveas> brasileiro: some googling turns up an old bug that should be fixed already. Can you try a 13.04 livecd or a 14.04 alpha livecd and see if it works?
[17:52] <varunendra> TJ-, is that command similar to "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb" ?
[17:52] <TJ-> MastermindL: varunendra something else that could affect the drive, is if the controller is running to fast for it. I've had the need to artificially limit the UDMA speed for some drives
[17:53] <TJ-> varunendra: almost, but much faster and more targeted
[17:53] <varunendra> TJ-, like wiping out only the first 512 bytes I guess :)
[17:53] <TJ-> varunendra: to wipe just an MBR you can so "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1" but for GPT there's a couple of GPT blocks on the disk, and often a protective MBR too
[17:54] <varunendra> TJ-, yup, I know GPT is larger, ignored the fact while assuming the command implication :o
[17:54] <brasileiro> Seveas: yeap, but that could take a while... you think it's that bug?
[17:55] <joshua__> could a nic like say killer nic be my problem of not getting ubuntu to boot in the live dvd
[17:55] <MastermindL> T_T
[17:56] <MastermindL> probably tomorrow morning I will go out and buy an external hard drive
[17:56] <MastermindL> it will be good to have one anyway
[17:56] <varunendra> TJ-, but wouldn't the effect of UDMA speed same before or after the formatting? I mean if the disk was readable previously on the same channel/speed, shouldn't it be considered a compatible mode?
[17:56] <MastermindL> and this will solve the situation of having to get those files
[17:57] <varunendra> MastermindL, I guess this one uses a 40-conductor IDE cable? Are the other two SATA?
[17:58] <brasileiro> Seveas: in here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134295 they're saying that i should add a line saying "usb_storage" to the /etc/modules... what do you think about it?
[17:59] <TJ-> varunendra: It is possible the controller changed things, if that were the issue, I'd think it one of the more unlikely scenarios though
[18:00] <MastermindL> no, it's SATA
[18:00] <antar> Hi, can anybody tell me how can i update my subl ?
[18:00] <TJ-> varunendra: Combined with the known mobo and CPU, and the missing USB2 devices, it all smells like the IOMMU issue to me
[18:00] <MastermindL> I really have to go now, guys, thanks a lot x1000, bye!
[18:00] <TJ-> MastermindL: good luck
[18:00] <MastermindL> thanks
[18:01] <joshua__> is it possible to upgrade to 13.10 from 12.10 lts
[18:01] <varunendra> TJ-, I recently experienced a similar USB detection issue on an Asrock board that was doing some kind of internal switching between USB 1/2/3 ports. That was messy
[18:01] <jhutchins> antar: What's a subl?
[18:02] <antar> jhutchins, Sublime text editor
[18:02] <TJ-> varunendra: The ports are usually shared between controllers (USB2/USB3) using a multiplexer
[18:03] <varunendra> TJ-, it is normal for USB3 ports to connect to USB2 hubs internally when the connected device is detected as USB 2. But switching between USB1/2 part was really messy.
[18:03] <jhutchins> antar: Wouldn't it be the same way you update any other package?
[18:04] <antar> jhutchins, Perhaps, could you remember me how do you update a package
[18:04] <Guest1593> got error : http://pastebin.com/YFVbN1v7
[18:04] <antar> sudo apt-get update blah ?
[18:04] <trism> antar: apt-get install packagename; will also upgrade a package
[18:05] <jhutchins> antar: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will do all available packages.
[18:05] <antar> D'oh, Unable to locate the package, i installed it using something i forgot
[18:05] <varunendra> TJ-, its logic was - connect a port to EHCI when the connected device needs fast speed, but when too many devices were connected and it had to resort to UHCI, it just used to get stuck with that port assignments even across reboots. Then even a single device (USB 2) couldn't be detected if connected to that last port that was connected to UHCI the last time.
[18:05] <TJ-> varunendra: The same applies there, the multiplexer plus the ohci and ehci drivers
[18:06] <TJ-> varunendra: Buggy mobo :)
[18:06] <varunendra> YeahRight, definitely :)
[18:06] <jhutchins> Guest1593: We would need to know what repositories you have configured and what package you were trying to update and what packages generated the errors.  Just the fact that you got an error doesn't mean much.
[18:06] <TJ-> right! off to try this custom boot 'floppy' USB!
[18:06] <jhutchins> Guest1593: Also, please avoid pastebin.com.
[18:07] <jhutchins> !paste
[18:07] <varunendra> YeahRight, sorry, didn't mean to address you ;)
[18:07] <antar> Got it, i installed using webupd8 repo
[18:07] <joshua__> this sucks i can only play with ubuntu on a virtual machine
[18:07] <antar> How can i update it
[18:08] <Seveas> brasileiro: seems unlikely to me but you could try, it can't hurt.
[18:10] <brasileiro> Seveas: ok, so reboot then...
[18:10] <antar> ok, i got it
[18:13] <ikonia> Seveas: all sorted ?
[18:13] <HiddenDjinn> I think my site may be hacked
[18:14] <ikonia> HiddenDjinn: how does this relate to ubuntu ?
[18:14] <HiddenDjinn> On an ubuntu server
[18:14] <ikonia> HiddenDjinn: how can the ubuntu support channel help you ?
[18:15] <HiddenDjinn> ikonia: and if I'm in wrong channel, maybe direct me to the right one
[18:15] <ikonia> HiddenDjinn: how can the ubuntu support channel help you ? what do you need from us ?
[18:15] <jhutchins> antar: update updates the lists, upgrade upgrades the packages.
[18:15] <Seveas> ikonia: well, roadrunner is gone so yes :)
[18:15] <antar> jhutchins, Thank you
[18:16] <brasileiro> Seveas: no luck =(
[18:16] <petzup> how can i disable bluettoth on laptop? i dont want to have turned it on it drains battery... and i am really dont using it?
[18:17] <HiddenDjinn> Well, firefox blocks attempts to access my site, calling it an attack site, referencing malware...not sure what to do about it
[18:17] <ikonia> HiddenDjinn: what is your site ?
[18:17] <felisfcatus> you ran sudo dd if=some.iso of=/dev/sda , damaging the first 200mb of the 100GB NTFS partition. Your / is untouched, so linux doesnt crash. How would you respond?
[18:17] <HiddenDjinn> ikonia: nyrednek.blogdns.info
[18:18] <daftykins> felisfcatus: are you asking what to do?
[18:18] <jhutchins> felisfcatus: I would presume you want to repair the MBR so grub will boot.
[18:18] <adi__> hi, does anyone know channel about computer networks?
[18:18] <ikonia> HiddenDjinn: works in firefox just fine
[18:18] <ikonia> adi__: ##networking
[18:18] <daftykins> adi__: #networking
[18:18] <felisfcatus> daftykins: myah, pretty much
[18:18] <HiddenDjinn> ikonia: so the warning has been removed...ok
[18:19] <Lihis> Does anyone use google Chrome in here?
[18:20] <felisfcatus> jhutchins: ohkay. next? would you even bother trying to recover the NTFS partition?
[18:20] <pietro10> Just wondering: if I run a .exe file on the comman dline as argv[0], it automatically opens in wine - what setting is causing htis to happen? Thanks.
[18:20] <brasileiro> 1
[18:20] <HiddenDjinn> ikonia: thanks
[18:20] <DesesperatedUs3r> Hi, could anyone give me some tips to run testdisk in ubuntu, please? I really need it to save my computer
[18:21] <Piridine> hello
[18:22] <felisfcatus> hello
[18:22] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: you could start by telling us what did you do
[18:24] <DesesperatedUs3r> OK, thanks! It uses win7, but my HDD crashed and since that moment when I start up I only see this message:  "bootmgr not found"
[18:24] <daftykins> so why don't you repair it with a Windows boot disc?
[18:24] <Piridine> last month, i discovered how to configured my tv with AverMedia A16D in Ubuntu. XD
[18:24] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: Insert a Windows CD and fix the broken boot environment.
[18:24] <Seveas> DesesperatedUs3r: if the harddisk crashed, it's time to buy a new one and restore from backup.
[18:25] <DesesperatedUs3r> I've tried to restore the computer and stopped it in the first second. Maybe too late. NTFS system dissapeared, and I'm trying to restore this with testdisk
[18:25] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: testdisk does not help you at that point.
[18:25] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: Ah, so you dont see any partitions anymore?
[18:25] <petzup> how to update kernel?
[18:25] <Seveas> petzup: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:26] <federico_> Hi all. ubuntu one is not syncing for me since 4 days ago on any computer. Does any one have similar problems?
[18:26] <Piridine> and now i am prepared to change to Ubuntu finally
[18:26] <OerHeks> federico_, known issue > http://askubuntu.com/questions/423833/ubuntu-one-cant-connect
[18:26] <DesesperatedUs3r> I see partitions. The one with contains (or contained) the OS, has only strange folders. The other partition (with games, movies and data) is working well
[18:26] <petzup> ok what about if i want to get back old one?
[18:26] <Giddeon> I have an application that I launch from the launcher.  I just installed a new version of the application, but every time I click the icon the old version gets opened.  How can I update the icon to launch the new app version?
[18:27] <Seveas> petzup: Ubuntu keep old kernels installed until you remove them
[18:27] <ikonia> Giddeon: how are you installing the new versions
[18:27] <petzup> but this kernel will be now default,yes?
[18:27] <pietro10> yes
[18:27] <Seveas> petzup: correct. You can choose kernels when booting
[18:27] <pietro10> speciifcally it becomes the first kernel in the GRUB boot list
[18:28] <petzup> okey
[18:28] <pietro10> if you press esc quickly on bootup you can choose an older kernel if something breaks
[18:28] <Giddeon> ikonia: I downloaded a file from the app website, then navigated to the directory of the new application and ran ./rubymine.sh
[18:28] <petzup> will try this now
[18:28] <ikonia> Giddeon: ok, so that's why it's not chananging
[18:28] <petzup> will this break my bumblebee? if i upgrade kernel?
[18:28] <hoodedice> I'm trying to install Xubuntu via livedisk via Unetbootin from a parent Windows 8.1
[18:28] <ikonia> Giddeon: the package manager knows nothing about this shell script, so can't update the launcher
[18:28] <parapan> hi folks - I want to install 2 linux distributions inside a logical volume - first is ubuntu 12/04, second is kali ....question is ....for kali should I setup a separate swap and separate boot partition ?
[18:28] <DesesperatedUs3r> bekks:  I see partitions. The one with contains (or contained) the OS, has only strange folders. The other partition (with games, movies and data) is working well
[18:28] <ikonia> parapan: don't do that
[18:28] <federico_> thanks OerHeks
[18:29] <parapan> ikonia: I'm listening
[18:29] <hoodedice> But on bootup into the Windows OS selection thingy, selecting Unetbootin restarts the PC
[18:29] <ikonia> parapan: logical volumes will be controlled by one of the OS's that means the other won't see the volume group of the second OS
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> parapan: share the swap, not the boot
[18:29] <Giddeon> ikonia: that's how the original application was installed as well. It created the icon  and when I started the application  I right clicked on the launcher and said "Lock to Launcher".  Is there some way I can update the link?
[18:29] <ikonia> Giddeon: either a.) talk to the people who wrote it and ask how it should work - as it's not b.) do it manually
[18:30] <Giddeon> ikonia: happy to do it manually.  Is there a directory somewhere that holds the launcher links?
[18:30] <parapan> ikonia: grr so what's the solution "in english" ?
[18:30] <hoodedice> Oh wait, I'm using unetbootin to HDD
[18:31] <ikonia> parapan: ok - so the honest answer from my seat is "don't do it" - grub2 is not good at dual booting/managing updates to 2 OS's, that's my personal opinion
[18:31] <loa> strange in last chrome update it start i see random freezes.
[18:31] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: So do you have personal data  to be restored on the partition with the OS?
[18:31] <ikonia> parapan: you can technically do it with seperate partitions - totally seperate and chainloading one grub2 installation from the second
[18:31] <ikonia> parapan: however, this is a very poor solution in my personal view
[18:32] <parapan> ikonia: so it would be better to have the second OS on a primary partition instead ?
[18:32] <DesesperatedUs3r> bekks: Yes I do :( Thats why I want to restore data before I reinstall windows/restore default settings
[18:32] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: So what are "strange folders" then?
[18:32] <ikonia> parapan: doesn't matter if it's primary or logical, but logical volume, no
[18:32] <parapan> ikonia: problem is I want to end up with 3 OS's one one drive . . .
[18:33] <ikonia> parapan: but I advise you against this
[18:33] <ikonia> parapan: use virtualization
[18:33] <jhutchins> ikonia: WHat two OSs have you tried it with?
[18:33] <ikonia> jhutchins: multiple ones
[18:33] <xmetal> did i just see grub is not good at doing two partitions?
[18:33] <xmetal> er "did i just read?"
[18:33] <DesesperatedUs3r> bekks: If I enter C: right now with ubuntu i see a folder named "[(^_^)]" and another named "RMTemp"
[18:33] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: if your ntfs patition isnt corrupted, you could just install windows on top of it. the old windows files would be moved to windows.old
[18:33] <parapan> ikonia: don;t have so good PC ressources ...and I was using kali under virtual ....doesn't have all the features like the hard install. . .
[18:34] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: And those two folders are the only ones you can see?
[18:34] <DesesperatedUs3r> bekks: Yes
[18:34] <ikonia> parapan: virtual/physical kali will not change the features
[18:34] <jhutchins> parapan: A logical partition isn't really any different from a physical.
[18:34] <jhutchins> parapan: I would re-use the swap partition though, there's no reason not to.
[18:34] <DesesperatedUs3r> felisfcatus: I think NTFS is corrupted since I can't index any folder with ubuntu in the drive
[18:35] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: Then testdisk will not help you much, since parts of the MFT of the NTFS were overwritten.
[18:35] <parapan> ikonia: jhutchins I mean the virtual doesn't have support for all hardwares like the hard install . . .
[18:35] <jhutchins> parapan: I've run both two different distributions and two releases of the same distribution without any trouble.
[18:35] <ikonia> parapan: the hardware is virtual - so it will be fully supported
[18:35] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: Better use a tools like photorec trying to recover file contents.
[18:35] <jhutchins> parapan: It can be a little confusing keping track of which system is managing the MBR.
[18:35] <xmetal> i have used grub/grub2 on a NUMBER of distros (dont want to get grief by listing them here) and never had an issue
[18:35] <DesesperatedUs3r> bekks: Is there a possibility to restore files with photorec?
[18:35] <xmetal> worst thing was some of my grub customizations (BG, font-family change) didn't "stick"
[18:36] <bekks> DesesperatedUs3r: Thats why I suggested it.
[18:36] <xmetal> i still haven't (successfully) gotten grub to boot iso's
[18:36] <xmetal> (just to see if ii could do it)
[18:36] <ikonia> grub2 will not manage 2 distributions well - the config files are in /etc on "1" distribution, so the other one can not update it, the only way to do it is to chainload the second grub - from the first, which is poor
[18:36] <petzup> anyone use bumblebee?
[18:36] <parapan> I know the second OS will mess with my first OS .....but how about the third one ???
[18:36] <xmetal> i have never ever had to do that
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> xmetal: use chainload for cds
[18:36] <petzup> on my pc it f... up hibernation
[18:36] <ikonia> parapan: it will not mess with your OS at all - that is the whole problem
[18:37] <ikonia> parapan: it cannot update the grub config
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> xmetal: oh, wait. .iso file?
[18:37] <xmetal> the first grub is suppose to boot the other OS... not the grub on the other OS
[18:37] <xmetal> yes yes ISO files
[18:37] <jhutchins> parapan: Why do you think they will "mess with" each other?
[18:37] <xmetal> say "universal Boot CD" or something like that
[18:37] <DesesperatedUs3r> bekks: OK :) I needed a confirmation. So I'm the same trouble. How I can run photorec in ubuntu?
[18:37] <ikonia> xmetal: no, it can't do that, as kernel updates from the second OS cannot update the grub config on the first OS - which controls grub on the MBR
[18:37] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: since testdisk reveals nothing, just use photorec
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> xmetal: thats almost impossible to do
[18:37] <parapan> jhutchins: cause I've done that before and kali installed the customized grub over the ubuntu's original one . . .
[18:37] <jhutchins> parapan: Other than reading the boot partitions and adding them to the grub menu, the other installations are just random data partitions.
[18:38] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: just run sudo photorec i think. It's installed with testdisk
[18:38] <hitsujiTMO> xmetal: altho, you could prob dd it to a partition, then chanload that partition
[18:38] <jhutchins> parapan: That's not the OS messing with the other OS - that's YOU choosing to install a different grub.
[18:38] <whoever> hi all can someone assist me with installing youCompleteMe plugin  for vim, i have vundle installed but don't see how to add the youcompleteme bundle
[18:38] <DesesperatedUs3r> felisfcatus: I couldn't install testdisk
[18:39] <DesesperatedUs3r> felisfcatus: (and I'm running ubuntu from live CD, of course)
[18:39] <jhutchins> parapan: YOU can go back and change that too by running grub-install from whatever install you want to manage the MBR>
[18:39] <parapan> jhutchins: Ok, so the option will be not to install grub for kali ? then should I do the bootable flag to ON or OFF when installing kali ???
[18:39] <jhutchins> parapan: The bootable flag is for DOS.
[18:40] <xmetal> yeah i figured that out hitsujiTMO :P
[18:40] <xmetal> just wanted to see if i could do it
[18:40] <xmetal> there is something wrong with your grub then
[18:40] <xmetal> "first  grub" doesn't boot "Second grub for second OS" ... grub boots (always has here) the OS's
[18:40] <parapan> jhutchins: I don;t remember well but I don't think there is an option of not installing grub during kali install
[18:41] <jhutchins> parapan: If the kali installtion doesn't allow you to skip grub, install it to the partition instead of the MBR, or install it and let it run the MBR.  Doesn't really matter.
[18:41] <parapan> jhutchins: how come the first install ( ubuntu) will know to index the second install ? - kali ?
[18:41] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: does that ubuntu has internet access? just run apt-get install testdisk
[18:41] <ikonia> parapan: if you don't install grub when installing kali-linux - how do you expect to boot kali-linux
[18:41] <xmetal> that may work ... was trying a "direct" iso file first
[18:41] <parapan> ikonia: I don't - that's why I'm asking :D jhutchins???
[18:41] <petzup> how to get on which kernel i am right now?
[18:41] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: else, use http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[18:41] <jhutchins> parapan: Run update-grub.
[18:42] <xmetal> i am in one distro that i just installed yesterday that installed grub ... i need to get back into my other distro and redo that grub
[18:42] <DesesperatedUs3r> felisfcatus: Yes, it does have internet access. I tryied to do that and it returns: "E: Couldn't find packet testdisk"
[18:42] <xmetal> you have kahi and ubuntu? .... you should easily be able (if you install Kahi second and DONT install it's grub) boot ubuntu and update Ubuntu's grub
[18:42] <xmetal> it should see Kahi
[18:43] <xmetal> <~~ wasn't paying attention to the question/conversation 100% ... sorry
[18:43] <parapan> As I see, the working grub will be the one installed by the last distribution ....the last distrib will "see" the other installed distros and it will index them .....if I will revert to the first installed grub, than I will not be able to boot the other OS's . . .
[18:44] <jhutchins> parapan: No.
[18:44] <ikonia> forget "reverting"
[18:44] <ikonia> what about when you update the kenrel in the second OS, the first OS (which controls grub) will not know about the update,
[18:44] <xmetal> you can boot into the "first" (i am taking Ubuntu)
[18:44] <xmetal> and UPDATE grub's configurations
[18:44] <parapan> xmetal: that's what I'm asking ....I don't think I can "skip" the grub install on kali ...
[18:44] <DesesperatedUs3r> felisfcatus: Is gparted better solution than photorec?
[18:45] <xmetal> and 9 times out of 10 (at least for me) it will see the new OS
[18:45] <xmetal> never had an issue with that here
[18:45] <ikonia> xmetal: so what you are saying is, every time you update the second/third OS - boot into the first OS and manually update the grub config"
[18:45] <jhutchins> parapan: If you allow the installer to install grub to the MBR, that grub will control the boot.  If you don't, then the original grub will still control it, but won't initially see the new install until you run update-grub.  When you do that _from_the_original_install_, it will detect the new bootable kernel and add that to the menu.
[18:46] <xmetal> you will not be able to get into kali (why do i spell it "kahi" ?)  right away but as long as ubuntu boots, update grub's configurations and it should "detect" kali was installed
[18:46] <xmetal> and update the menu accordingly
[18:46] <ikonia> parapan: here are your options - a.) accept grub2 is a poor solution for dual booting b.) accept the manual work arounds needed ongoing to manage your dual boot system
[18:46] <ikonia> parapan: personally - grub2 is unacceptable to me to do this, if you disagree, carry on
[18:46] <jhutchins> ikonia: Do you recommend lilo instead?
[18:46] <ikonia> xmetal: that is the worst way of managing a dual/tripple boot system ever,
[18:46] <xmetal> you could boot into the "first grub OS" and update that or install the new OS's grub and then that should detct the first one
[18:46] <xmetal> either way
[18:46] <ikonia> jhutchins: I recommend "not doing it"
[18:47] <jhutchins> ikonia: I think you are wrong.
[18:47] <jhutchins> ikonia: Lots of people do this all the time.
[18:47] <ikonia> jhutchins: or using virtualizations
[18:47] <ikonia> I don't believe grub2 is an acceptable way of managing a dual boot system
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> parapan: or :     instal kalis grub bootstrap to a partition  + chainload that in grub in ubuntu.
[18:47] <xmetal> i do it on many different PC's
[18:47] <xmetal> grub 2 is easy
[18:47] <xmetal> lol
[18:47] <jhutchins> ikonia: In fact, it's how most maintainers and developers run multiple systems,
[18:47] <ikonia> jhutchins: no, lots of people break it, few people do exactly what you are saying and are able to manage it
[18:47]  * xmetal jhutchins
[18:47] <xmetal> oops
[18:47] <xmetal> sorry
[18:47] <jhutchins> ikonia: Trust me, I've been at this for a while.  Multi-boot works just fine.
[18:48]  * xmetal agree's with jhutchins
[18:48] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: loosely, it recover files based on their types. You'll prolly lose the folders hierarchy and you may not be able to recover everything
[18:48] <parapan> ikonia: jhutchins xmetal OK, but the update grub will be done only once after installing the second/third OS or have to be done each time the kernel is updated on each OS ???
[18:48] <ikonia> jhutchins: I'm aware of how it can work, but it doesn't work for the average user
[18:48] <ki7rw> grrr, all my outgoing e-mail is being bounced by spamhaus - new filters in force - i guess i'll have to shut down my mailserver
[18:48] <ikonia> jhutchins: havin to boot into the first OS to update the second/third OS config is just unacceptable
[18:48] <xmetal> nonono
[18:48] <xmetal> you boot into first OS ONCE and update grub
[18:48] <xmetal> thats it
[18:48] <jhutchins> ikonia: Judging by the traffic on freenode very few people have any problems with it.
[18:48] <ikonia> xmetal: no, - you have to update it after each kernel update
[18:48] <xmetal> "settings" (detecting Kali for example) will stick
[18:49] <ikonia> xmetal: if you update the kernel in the second OS it CANNOT update the grub menu controlled by the first, you need to boot into the first to update it again
[18:49] <xmetal> "update-grub" is the command i think
[18:49] <DesesperatedUs3r> felisfcatus: OK i try. I dont need Ubuntu tu run it, right? I just restart and boot from usb
[18:49] <ikonia> xmetal: sounds like you don't really understand it
[18:49] <jhutchins> xmetal: Right, update-grub.
[18:49] <ikonia> but in the FIRST os ,
[18:49] <coreire> Whats the easiest way to copy a ubuntu install from a hard drive to a usb flash drive? Is it possible to do it from a system while the os is running?
[18:49] <ikonia> so you have to do this each time the second/third OS does a kernel update, boot into the first update nad rebuild the grub config
[18:49] <jhutchins> Think of how many people have run Windows and Linux on the same systme for years.
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: if you install the grub for kali to a 1mb partition, you can chainload that in ubuntus grub, so you don't need to keep it up to date
[18:50] <ikonia> jhutchins: windows/linux is a different dual boot setup - that works fine
[18:50] <xmetal> i am one of them, jhutchins
[18:50] <xmetal> :)
[18:50] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: yes, I also said that is the only way to do it, chainload
[18:50] <xmetal> many many different distros
[18:50] <xmetal> and grub works fine on all of them
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: ahh yeah sorry, cool
[18:50] <xmetal> that i have tried
[18:50] <ikonia> xmetal: sounds like you dont understand it
[18:50] <jhutchins> xmetal: I never did that much.  I had dedicated linux boxes, then I ditched windows completely about ten years ago.
[18:51] <xmetal> good idea, jhutchins
[18:51] <xmetal> lol
[18:51] <jhutchins> ikonia: I would say the person who doesn't know how to make it work is the person who doesn't understand it.
[18:51] <xmetal> lol @ i am senching this is going nowhere
[18:51] <parapan> ikonia: jhutchins xmetal > just to make this COMPLETE confusing for everyone I must inform you that my 3rd OS will be W7 =))
[18:51] <xmetal> resorting to that
[18:51] <ikonia> jhutchins: who is that ?
[18:51] <ikonia> parapan: the windows dual boot is not a problem, it's just multiple linux distributions
[18:51] <xmetal> no problem, pa... i have a triple boot here
[18:51] <xmetal> :)
[18:51] <xmetal> win7 being one of them
[18:52] <felisfcatus> coreire: no
[18:52] <felisfcatus> coreire: you;ll need 2 usbs
[18:52] <morsnowski> cookie for who finds the mistake first sudo dd if=/Users/morsnowski/Downloads/raspbmc-2013-12-23.img of=/etc/rdisk1 bs=1m
[18:52] <jhutchins> parapan: afik you will have to re-install grub after you install windows.  It does NOT respect other operating systems.
[18:53] <Guest30335> xmetal, windows will not be a problem; dual boot with two different linux versions will be (or you use chaned grubs as ikonia suggested)
[18:53] <xmetal> really if you pdate the kernel on "OS 2" (second linux) ... and want to use grub from the first OS... going into the first OS and running "update-grub" is easy
[18:53] <coreire> felisfcatus: Boot something like clonezilla off the 2nd usb?
[18:53] <morsnowski> it is my experience that installing windows first and ubuntu second is the cleaner way
[18:53]  * xmetal sighs
[18:53] <ikonia> xmetal: it is not an acceptable way of managing a system - to control the second OS from the fist.
[18:53] <felisfcatus> coreire: boot the stuff you want to install
[18:53] <xmetal> so you want a grub for each OS
[18:53] <xmetal> grub boots to grub to grub
[18:53] <xmetal> hmm
[18:53] <xmetal> not even sure if that's possible, lol
[18:54] <jhutchins> ikonia: You are wrong.  You may prefer not to do it that way, but it is perfectly acceptable and supported by most distribution support channels.
[18:54] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: like i said you could install testdisk on your ubuntu if you dont want to download another os
[18:54] <ikonia> chainloading while not great, at least will not require constant maintenance
[18:54] <ikonia> jhutchins: as I've said approx 5 times - this is my personal opinion
[18:54] <coreire> felisfcatus: I want to move my currently working ubuntu install from my hard drive to a usb stick though. Can I do that?
[18:54] <xmetal> i would get "Super Grub CD" (or i think there is a similar tool on the same site)
[18:55] <Guest30335> ikonia, second that
[18:55] <xmetal> that fixes grub if you install Linux Last
[18:55] <xmetal> oops
[18:55] <ikonia> super grub cd has nothing to do with it
[18:55] <ikonia> as it's just grub
[18:55] <parapan> ikonia: what you're right about is that I'm an bit of -"average" user .....but I'm pretty sure I'll damage the MBR ....and the grub ...first time I've fixed with a direct tool ....boot-repair-disk
[18:55] <xmetal> good god
[18:55] <xmetal> i smell a troll
[18:55] <jhutchins> parapan: Actually, you won't.
[18:55] <ikonia> parapan: I don't see any reason why you would cause any damage that could not be repaired
[18:55] <felisfcatus> coreire: i'd just do a fresh reinstall
[18:56] <xmetal> anyway, i would get SuperGrubCD (again there is another simiiar tool on the same site) that fixes grub if you install WINDOWS last
[18:56] <jhutchins> parapan: It's up to you.  ikonia will support chainloading if/when you can find him, there are several of us who will support multiple installtions.
[18:56] <parapan> jhutchins: I was almost sure ....that will probably fix the first install boot and I'll loose the other os's
[18:56] <felisfcatus> coreire: you might be missing stuff that is required to boot from usb
[18:56] <jhutchins> parapan: I prefer the simpler solution.  Making it more complex provides more opportunity to break.
[18:56] <xmetal> run that once and you can get bgack into linux
[18:56] <xmetal> :)
[18:56] <jhutchins> parapan: Several of us have told you that we've done this and that doesn't happen.
[18:56] <xmetal> i agree with jh
[18:56] <DesesperatedUs3r> felisfcatus: When I try to install testdisk in ubuntu it returns: "E: Couldn't find packet testdisk"
[18:56] <bsdbyte> Hello, im looking for a rails developer, who loves server configuration, programming etc. The pay is good. But must be able to work fulltime.
[18:57] <xmetal> grub booting to a second grub ... thats silly IMHO
[18:57] <morsnowski> xmetal: yes about as dense as it gets
[18:57] <ikonia> bsdbyte: please don't advertise in ubuntu channels
[18:57] <coreire> felisfcatus: Ok, thanks.
[18:57] <xmetal> i think one person in here in confusing everyone, lol ... i agree with most of what jh has said
[18:57] <jhutchins> Did you know you can get the NTLOADER to chainload grub, so that it becomes the primary bootmanager?
[18:58] <bsdbyte> ikonia, sure
[18:58] <ikonia> thanks
[18:58] <xmetal> then your are in a grub2 to grub2 booting loop
[18:58] <xmetal> lol
[18:58] <ikonia> xmetal: no-one said a loop
[18:58] <ikonia> xmetal: please don't make things up
[18:58] <parapan> jhutchins: Ok, but let's go back to my original problem ......I want kali installed into a 50GB ext 4 partition ......shold I do /boot /swap and / on that 50 Gb partition ?
[18:58] <xmetal> god i need to get hexchat to get the ignore feature
[18:58] <xmetal> troll
[18:58] <ikonia> xmetal: chainloading is a fully supported and long term option of grub and grub2 - so don't try to be-little people
[18:59] <jhutchins> parapan: Not swap.
[18:59] <jhutchins> parapan: I prefer a single partition + swap.
[18:59] <suore> i have problem with chromium, cannot typing comnn ets ay youtuibe - after click at commnet windos i got auto turn on and off a window xD
[18:59] <jhutchins> parapan: swap should be a seperate partition, but both ubuntu and kali can share it.
[19:00] <parapan> jhutchins: when choosing all OS into one partition kali requested the /swap to be setup ....how can I share the ubuntu /swap ?
[19:00] <jhutchins> parapan: /boot does not need to be a partition, although it can be.
[19:00] <jhutchins> parapan: Yes, share the swap.
[19:00] <ram_> hai
[19:00] <Guest30335> parapan, /boot on their own partitions, /swap can share the partition since never the two OS will be up at the same time
[19:01] <parapan> jhutchins: OK how can I share that /swap ??
[19:01] <Guest30335> parapan, just select the same partition on the installation process
[19:01] <jhutchins> parapan: You just point both installs to the same partition for swap.
[19:01] <ram_> which is best for downloader
[19:01] <jhutchins> parapan: As a matter of fact, if you have a swap partition, most distributions will detect and use it, so you'd end up using both swaps if you created a second one.
[19:02] <jhutchins> parapan: You do need to do manual partition setup.
[19:02] <jhutchins> Guest30335: There is no reason for the average user to have a seperate /boot.  A single OS partition has a lot of advantages for new users.
[19:03] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: you sure the ubuntu live disk is connected to the internet?
[19:03] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: do a sudo apt-get update first
[19:03] <Guest30335> jhutchins, uh, my bad. I meant that every OS installation needs to have their own /boot partition; that cannot be shared
[19:04] <jhutchins> Guest30335: Well, their own /boot folder/tree, right.  Can be a part of /.
[19:04] <Guest30335> jhutchins: I reckon too that there is no need to have a separete boot partition, though
[19:04] <Guest30335> jhutchins: yup, understood
[19:04] <parapan> jhutchins: Guest30335 > so I need manual ,..correct . . . but still don't get-it ....I tell kali to set /swap ....on the /swap of ubuntu ......sda5 for example ....that will not overwrite something from ubuntu OS ?
[19:05] <ram_> help me to choose downloader for ubuntu
[19:05] <Beldar> DesesperatedUs3r, You will need to turn off the cd and use the main repos, run this command and untick the cd and then run a update then the install. software-properties-gtk
[19:05] <jhutchins> parapan: Swap gets overwritten on every boot anyway, doesn't matter.
[19:05] <DesesperatedUs3r> feliscatus: yes im sure. I can navigate. I tryied apt-get update but it doesn't work (many packages were not downloaded - 404). I think the version of ubuntu im using in this cd is too old
[19:05] <shaun___> ram_: what are you looking to do?
[19:06] <parapan> k jhutchins : - next question ....how can I update the grub after the kernel was changed into second OS ?
[19:06] <Guest30335> parapan: you choose /sda5 for swap on both installations. And then you use lets say sda3 for the "/" on one installation and sda4 on the "/" of the other installation. Not difficult, I promise
[19:06] <shaun___> !fixgrub
[19:07] <jhutchins> parapan: If you do not choose to install grub to the MBR - to /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda6 - then the original grub will still be in control.
[19:07] <felisfcatus> DesesperatedUs3r: just try gparted live then
[19:07] <parapan> Guest30335: I've figured this one thanks >
[19:07] <Guest30335> parapan: jhutchins this is it. when you run "aptitude safe-upgrade" automatically will update its own GRUB, you don't have to worry about that
[19:07] <jhutchins> parapan: If kali does install to the MBR, it should still let you boot to ubuntu.  You can either just live with that, or boot to ubuntu, grub-install /dev/sda, update-grub, and ubuntu will be in charge again.
[19:07] <parapan> jhutchins: and if I cannot avoid installing the grub of kali ?
[19:08] <jhutchins> Guest30335: upgrades only update grub if they install a new kernel.
[19:08] <Guest30335> parapan: thats the advantage of have a chained grubs... eachone is updated independently from their respective OSs
[19:08] <Guest30335> jhutchins: yeah, thats what parapan whas asking
[19:09] <jhutchins> parapan: The second example I gave.  Let kali control it or re-install from ubuntu.
[19:10] <Guest30335> jhutchins: parapan have to go. parapan good luck with your setup. Please backup everything you don't wanna loose before start ;)
[19:13] <jhutchins> parapan: You're going to end up reinstalling grub after you install windows anyway, just pick which install you do it from.
[19:13] <parapan> Guest38215: ok thanks
[19:17] <parapan> jhutchins: k, but after reverting to ubuntu's grub I stiil have to manually update the grub of each OS with aptitude safe-upgrade ?
[19:17] <jhutchins> ikonia: I guess my main objection to chainloading is that there's no automated way to set it up that way, so it ends up being more complex for a new user to do.
[19:17] <ikonia> jhutchins: it's a very good point to raise
[19:17] <jhutchins> parapan: No, you only need to do update-grub on whatever system last installed grub.
[19:18] <parapan> jhutchins: and that will take care of all other OS's ? sounds too simple
[19:18] <jhutchins> ikonia: Once they understand bootloading better, they can always switch to that if they find the default inconvenient.
[19:18] <Goobsly> Testing.
[19:18] <ikonia> parapan: one OS controls grub, every time you make a change to the other OS's you need to update the config from the controlling OS
[19:19] <jhutchins> parapan: Each OS takes care of it's own internal setup.  You point grub to the root and the kernel and that OS takes it from there.
[19:19] <parapan> ikonia: that was my understanding also
[19:20] <jhutchins> parapan: Actually, it's usually root, initramfs, and kernel in the grub config.
[19:20] <parapan> jhutchins: but the grub config file will have the setup of all other OS's correct /
[19:20] <ki7rw> why isn't the latest version of virtualbox in the repositories?
[19:21] <Phosphorescent> Yo
[19:21] <jhutchins> parapan: Yep.
[19:21] <Phosphorescent> New here
[19:21] <Phosphorescent> Wut's the topic??
[19:21] <ikonia> parapan: type /topic
[19:23] <Phosphorescent>  anyone acceptin the 'yo'?
[19:23] <parapan> type /topic
[19:23] <ikonia> Phosphorescent: channels not really a chat channel (try #defocus for that) this channel talks about ubuntu only
[19:23] <ikonia> Phosphorescent: the links in the topic will provide more detail
[19:24] <parapan> insufficinet arguments for command ?
[19:34] <brasileiro> anybody knows how can I update my BIOS using Ubuntu? I have a Dell Inspiron 17R SE and tried the firmwaretoll --update without luck...
[19:35] <cow5843> When Ubuntu 14.04 releases, will I be able to upgrade my 14.04 to final?
[19:35] <Beldar> brasileiro, Some bios updates have a bootable iso you can put on a cd/usb, have you looked for this?
[19:35] <cow5843> without resinstalling
[19:35] <yeats> cow5843: yes - it will happen via normal updates
[19:35] <cow5843> yeats: thanks
[19:35] <brasileiro> Beldar: all that i found on dell's website is a windows exec...
[19:35] <Beldar> !14.04 | cow5843 for future trusty issues
[19:39] <Beldar> brasileiro, So what is the motivation to do this update?
[19:42] <brasileiro> Beldar: i'm having trouble mounting an external hdd and this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1154739 ended because the guy had an outdated bios..
[19:42] <brasileiro> Beldar: i'm having the same problem described and can't figure out what to do...
[19:42] <Beldar> brasileiro, I did find this dell ubuntu bios wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellBIOS
[19:42] <matt444> My computer keeps wanting to connect to the router with an IP address that is reserved to another computer. If I try to reserve a different IP for it in the router it won't conect
[19:43] <brasileiro> Beldar: yeap, I saw that, but keeping in mind that updating the bios is kinda dangerous I was wondering if anybody could second that information...
[19:43] <jhutchins> cow5843: Generally most of the Debian derived distributions like Ubuntu will support upgrading to the next release, while RedHat distributions including Mandriva and Suse will not.
[19:45] <jhutchins> brasileiro: I would stick to BIOS updates that come from the manufacturer - from Dell in this case.
[19:45] <felisfcatus> ^
[19:46] <felisfcatus> matt444: reserver an ip that is outside the dhcp range
[19:46] <parapan> jhutchins: ikonia -thanks for support -i saved the conversation and i'll come back if needed ....
[19:47] <brasileiro> jhutchins: so the solution is to install windows an update from the exec that dell is showing at the website?
[19:48] <felisfcatus> brasileiro: you could brick your pc if not done correctly. like perma brick unles you're good with reflashing bios chips.
[19:48] <felisfcatus> brasileiro: so i recommend stick to th recommended way of reflashing the bios, or not update at all unless it's necessary
[19:48] <jhutchins> brasileiro: If Dell has a BIOS update it's a good idea to install it.  Dell usually supplies instructions on how to do so, and these days it's possible from Linux.
[19:49] <OerHeks> matt444, sounds like that ip is reserved by the MAC adress, clone that mac adress and you'll be fine
[19:49] <Beldar> brasileiro, So how are you mounting the external, and is it in fstab as well?
[19:49] <jhutchins> felisfcatus: It really depends on the hardware.  In the early 2000s it was almost always necessary to update the BIOS on IBM Thinkpads when you got them.
[19:49] <brasileiro> jhutchins: the only way i found is throught windows http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/Product/inspiron-17r-se-7720?driverId=FJY72&osCode=BIOSA&fileId=3290558924&languageCode=EN&categoryId=BI
[19:50] <ubuntuuserhappy> I've had a couple of security breaches recently,  both originating from the "ubuntu" user on the system.  The second was simply someone logging in, first try with the ubuntu user via ssh, the thing im wondering is, is there any reason for the ubuntu user to have a shell at all? Also,
[19:50] <jhutchins> brasileiro: Follow Dell's instructions and you should be fine.  If not, you can turn to Dell for support.
[19:50] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: ubuntu user doesn't exist on an install
[19:50] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: that's only on livemedia
[19:50] <brasileiro> Beldar: nop, it only appears at lsusb, and dmesg returns the same thing as the bug thread
[19:51] <ubuntuuserhappy> there were no services running with the ubuntu user, so that couldn't have been the source of the hack
[19:51] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: ubuntu user doesn't exist on an install
[19:51] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: that's only on livemedia
[19:51] <hikmat> ubuntu not taking ks parameter in boot prompt
[19:51] <brasileiro> jhutchins: ok, i'm gonna install windows then...
[19:51] <Beldar> brasileiro, So how are you mounting the external, and is it in fstab as well? I'm just wondering if there is an error in this scenario.
[19:51] <Beldar> brasileiro, This a ntfs partitioned external?
[19:52] <brasileiro> Beldar: i can't mount it.. it doesn't show up in fstab, only in lsusb... fdisk -l returns nothing related to it... yes, it's ntfs
[19:52] <jhutchins> brasileiro: Dell usually has a bootable image you can use to flash the BIOS - then again, I deal mostly with Dell Servers.
[19:52] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: its getting installed with some package that my lxc-install script is installing
[19:52] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: which package is providing that package
[19:52] <brasileiro> jhutchins: thanks! i'll keep looking for this bootable option..
[19:52]  * jhutchins thinks he's missing part of the thread.
[19:52] <ikonia> that script sorry
[19:53] <Beldar> brasileiro, Could be as simple as the external needing a chkdsk, I would do that, but yes use windows to install the bios from dell.
[19:53] <DaveVE3> jhutchins,  are you in canada?
[19:53] <hitsujiTMO> brasileiro: does it show ip in lsblk?
[19:53] <jhutchins> DaveVE3: Nope, next country South.
[19:53] <DaveVE3> OK... thanks
[19:54] <brasileiro> Beldar: hitsujiTMO nop... only sda
[19:54] <shift_tim> Is there a way to find all files in a directory which end in a six-character extension?
[19:54] <shift_tim> Example: I want to find file.aaaaaa and file.a4Diiq, but not file.txt or file.12345
[19:54] <brasileiro> Beldar: it's working fine at another machine that runs on windows
[19:54] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: lxc, the lxc install script is what sets up the guests, it only installs some very basic packages, like npt,iptables,dnsutils,etc
[19:54] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: what package provides that script
[19:54] <DaveVE3> ls -lR *abcdef
[19:54] <Beldar> brasileiro, That is windows linux can be finicky with file systems.
[19:54] <jhutchins> shift_tim: find /path -name "*1234"
[19:54] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: its a script modified from the lxc package, are you familiar with lxc?
[19:55] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: what package provides that script
[19:55] <jhutchins> shift_tim: Oh, -name "*.??????"
[19:55] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: that is the actual package name
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> brasileiro: whats the output of: ls /sys/block
[19:55] <DaveVE3> ls -l |grep abcdef
[19:55] <Beldar> brasileiro, If you have access to another windows I would chkdsk /r that external, or just run the right click on iot in computer that is a chkdsk basically in windows.
[19:55] <brasileiro> Beldar: but doesn't it need to appear at fstab for me to run fsck on it?
[19:56] <Beldar> brasileiro, you do not run a fsck on a ntfs, I said chkdsk
[19:56] <brasileiro> hitsujiTMO: sdb is there
[19:56] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: are you familiar with lxc?
[19:56] <Beldar> brasileiro, fsck is linux chkdsk is windows
[19:57] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: yes, but that isn't the question, I'm asking you "what is the name of the package that provides that script"
[19:57] <OerHeks> ubuntuuserhappy, "The default template does a bare bones Ubuntu 10.4 install, creates a user “ubuntu” .... < http://derek.simkowiak.net/lxc-ubuntu-x/
[19:57] <brasileiro> Beldar: i'll try that, but giving that there's a bug related to it, I don't think that's all
[19:57] <jhutchins> There are disk check tools for ntfs in linux, but it's preferred to do it from Windows if possible.
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> brasileiro: whats the output of: ls -ld /sys/block/sdb/sdb1
[19:57] <jhutchins> fsck.ntfs is available, as are ntfscheck and checkntfs.
[19:58] <OerHeks> ubuntuuserhappy, so obvious, that user is a nice user
[19:58] <hikmat> Hello there
[19:58] <jhutchins> Not sure which if any are in Ubuntu.
[19:58] <Beldar> brasileiro, One bug is not a cause and effect empirically with the variables that are still present.
[19:58] <hikmat> any one for help
[19:58] <DaveVE3> hey hikmat
[19:58] <brasileiro> hitsujiTMO: ls: cannot access /sys/block/sdb/sdb1: No such file or directory
[19:58] <jhutchins> !ask | hikmat
[19:58] <DaveVE3> hikmat,  wacha need
[19:59] <ubuntuuserhappy> oerheks: yes, I'm wondering why im getting hacked through that user, this current time it looked like they just knew the password, no failed log in attempts, not services running as ubuntu
[19:59] <jhutchins> ubuntuuserhappy: Did you set the password for that user?
[19:59] <que1> Hey guys I want to know what is the appropriate way to keep the icons for my recently compiled application, in /usr/share/pixmaps or /usr/share/icons/hicolor? I've seen there are some in /usr/share/pixmaps with different sizes. Is this recommended?
[19:59] <felisfcatus> !patience | felisfcatus
[20:00] <brasileiro> Beldar: doing the check
[20:00] <jhutchins> felisfcatus: You can also /msg ubottu <factoid> for a private reply.
[20:00] <hikmat> Ubuntu is not taking kickstart parameter  at boot prompt from web
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> brasileiro: with that it sounds like there is no partition table on the device. (hence why it doesn't show up in fdisk). you most likely have written the filesystem directly to the disk
[20:00] <ubuntuuserhappy> jhutchins: no i did not
[20:01] <jhutchins> ubuntuuserhappy: You should probably re-do the install and set it.
[20:01] <ikonia> the ubuntu users default password is normally ubuntu
[20:01] <jhutchins> ubuntuuserhappy: That or reinstall and lock the account with passwd -l ubuntu
[20:01] <ikonia> hence why I want to know what package is installing that script
[20:01] <ubuntuuserhappy> jhutchins: yes, that is the plan, but I would still like to know how it happened in the first place
[20:01] <brasileiro> hitsujiTMO: actually the disk is kinda differente, it's an Iomega ScreenPlay, but this http://linuxhcl.com/browse/product?id=6977 says it works under linux
[20:02] <brasileiro> hitsujiTMO: basically the Iomega ScreenPlay acts like an external hdd + video player all in once
[20:02] <butterman___> hallo
[20:02] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu does not use kickstart, it uses preseed, and I don't know what you mean by a "boot prompt from web" - that doesn't make sense.
[20:02] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: Sorry.
[20:02] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu does not use kickstart, it uses preseed, and I don't know what you mean by a "boot prompt from web" - that doesn't make sense.
[20:02] <butterman___> what?
[20:03] <OerHeks> ubuntuuserhappy, if that script did not prompt for setting a password, password would be empty
[20:03] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: why the hell would that be set with a default password like that, and that script for the hundredth time is derived from the stock scripts that come with lxc
[20:03] <jhutchins> hikmat: ubuntu does not use kickstart, it uses preseed, and I don't know what you mean by a "boot prompt from web" - that doesn't make sense.
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> jhutchins: :)
[20:03] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: Too many different keyboards.
[20:03] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: what is the package name - for the 100th time
[20:03] <ubuntuuserhappy> oerheks: should be, but isn't, ikonia is telling me the default password is ubuntu for ubuntu user???
[20:03] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: LXC
[20:04] <ikonia> !info lxc
[20:04] <suppybot> Announcement from my owner (harris): #coding-n00bs hello
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> jhutchins: pxe setups typically use kickstart tho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[20:04] <basketball> ~ part #ubuntu
[20:04] <basketball> sorry about suppybot ikonia
[20:04] <ikonia> basketball: no problem, thank you
[20:05] <OerHeks> ikonia he used this  "The default template does a bare bones Ubuntu 10.4 install, creates a user “ubuntu” .... < http://derek.simkowiak.net/lxc-ubuntu-x/
[20:05] <hikmat> Jhutchins: I mean when we pass parameter to kernel just by pressing F6 at boot prompt like Boot Options ks=http://example.com/ks.cfg
[20:05] <eng1ne> k
[20:05] <basketball> ikonia,  were you going to kick or ban it
[20:05] <ikonia> basketball: ban it until I spoke to the owner, but as you spoke up, nothing
[20:05] <ikonia> !info lxc
[20:06] <basketball> ikonia,  we have the same ip so if you banned you would ban me
[20:06] <conall> Hi, Im getting a dell latitude e5430. Ubuntu provides a 12.04 image for it http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201202-10548/   However some of the specs are different (ie. i7 processor instead of i5). Will this image still work?
[20:06] <ikonia> basketball: good job I didn't then
[20:06] <ikonia> OerHeks: if thats still the case for the saucy packages, maybe worth looking into a bug report then
[20:07] <Beldar> conall, I would use the 12.04.4 image.
[20:07] <jhutchins> Ok, kickstart is supported in Ubuntu.  Didn't know that.
[20:07] <jhutchins> hikmat: That's usually a network problem for us.
[20:07] <ubuntuuserhappy> oerkecks: thanks, i guess I'll just have to add a line to the script remove log in privilages for the ubuntu user
[20:08] <conall> Beldar: do you mean the standard image?
[20:08] <OerHeks> ikonia, that url gives a selfmade script from github AFAIK, not official
[20:08] <jhutchins> hikmat: Have you verified that the ks file is accessible from the subnet you're using?
[20:08] <Beldar> conall, Yes, so your concern is will ubuntu run on this computer?
[20:08] <ikonia> OerHeks: thats interesting, so an official package is pushing out that shell script ?
[20:08] <DaveVE3> ubuntuuserhappy, just take the hash out of the /etc/shadow file
[20:08] <hikmat> Jhutchins: yes it's accessible.
[20:09] <DaveVE3> then it can't be logged into
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> conall: the link is to the standard 12.04.2 iso. you'be be better off trying the 12.04.4 iso. especially with the newer hardware
[20:09] <conall> Beldar: Thanks for the reply btw. I'm fairly sure it will, but im just wondering which image would be better to use
[20:09] <DQSII> so i had a question when it comes time to upgrade to 14.04 am i gonna have to remove gnome 2 fallback agian cause i dont like that i just use unity and compiz and xfce and kwin
[20:09] <jhutchins> conall: Linux is generally good at adapting to any Intey-type hardware.  Occasionally there are problems with network cards or advanced video, but they can be worked out.
[20:09] <ubuntuuserhappy> daveVE3: yeah that might be the best way to go about it
[20:10] <DaveVE3> then any programs that need that user id will still work
[20:10] <OerHeks> ikonia reversing that odd user ubuntu, google came up with that script, so it needs some working i guess
[20:10] <Beldar> conall, Understandable, if it were me I would make sure to clone what is there, and if it's windows have a recovery disc made.
[20:10] <ikonia> OerHeks: I think you need to know if the official ubuntu package is giving that script or not
[20:10] <ikonia> otherwise it's just a pointless relationship to try to create
[20:10] <jhutchins> hikmat: In that case you might be able to figure out what the problem is by checking alt-F2 through Alt-F4 or using a live CD.  It's probably not setting up the NIC correctly.
[20:11] <OerHeks> no it does not, or i must be confused
[20:11] <ikonia> OerHeks: ok - so why are you mentioning that script in relation to ubuntuuserhappy's problem
[20:11] <conall> hitsujiTMO , jhutchins, Beldar: thanks for the reply guys, I suppose ill stick with the standard package then. Thanks
[20:12] <jhutchins> hikmat: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[20:12] <hikmat> jhutchins: network is fine because if I put preseed.cfg file in place of ks.cfg in my local server then it's working..
[20:13] <OerHeks> ikonia i mentioned it to him,and he confirmed
[20:14] <hikmat> actually I have installed ubuntu in fully automated mode using preseed file but I want perform some extra task like setting up ssh file in home folder
[20:15] <jhutchins> hikmat: Does preseed let you run post scripts?
[20:15] <jhutchins> hikmat: You have not given any details on how it fails.
[20:15] <que1> Hey guys I want to know what is the appropriate way to keep the icons for my recently compiled application, in /usr/share/pixmaps or /usr/share/icons/hicolor? I've seen there are some in /usr/share/pixmaps with different sizes. Is this recommended?
[20:16] <basketball> how do i view only what i have said and what people have said to me
[20:16] <hikmat> Jhutchins: when I pass kickstart file it continues to install but does not perform any task that I had specified in ks file
[20:16] <hikmat> jhutchins: That link has conflicting statement: The method supported by Anaconda of adding a plain "ks" boot parameter to work out the location of the Kickstart file from a DHCP response is not yet supported by the Ubuntu installer.
[20:17] <hikmat> What does that mean? ubuntu doesn't support ks parameter
[20:18] <jhutchins> hikmat: I would think it means it can't get the kickstart file location from DHCP.
[20:19] <jhutchins> hikmat: so you can't just tell it "ks", it has to be "ks=http://path.to.server/file"
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> hikmat: what docs are you following? i think most have best luck with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[20:20] <OerHeks> basketball, search your chatlog for your name, or ctrl + F in xchat to search
[20:20] <jhutchins> hikmat: Also, if you're using a hostname, you might not have DNS at that point - try the  IP.
[20:20] <hikmat> jhutchins: I am using IP
[20:20] <Blanco_> re
[20:20] <jhutchins> OerHeks: Any way to do that with irssi?
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> hikmat: is your network up at that point?
[20:21] <hikmat> yes
[20:21] <jhutchins> hikmat: Well, again, alternate consoles and maybe the installer log.
[20:21] <bekks> jhutchins: irssi can save logs, which are searchable using command line tools.
[20:21] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: the lxc-guest-setup script just calls lcx-create with some network and packages to install.  its one of the packages or more likely the lxc-create program that create the ubuntu user
[20:22] <hikmat> I am using following commands at boot prompt>> auto url=http://$IP:8082 locale=en_US keyboard-configuration/layoutcode=us console-setup/ask_detect=false hostname=vagrant-ubuntu domain=vagrant-ubuntu initrd=/install/initrd.gz ks=http://${IP}:8081"
[20:22] <hikmat> #sh ./htt
[20:22] <hikmat> $IP=<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:22] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: this is a concern IF if it putting the ubuntu user with default ubuntu password in pace from a script supplied by an official ubuntu package
[20:23] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: yep
[20:23] <OerHeks> jhutchins, logging is not activated standard http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c7
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> hikmat: i hope you're not using actual vars and that was there for obfuscation
[20:23] <jhutchins> hikmat: I don't see a ks command in there.
[20:24] <jhutchins> hikmat: I mean filename.
[20:24] <jhutchins> hikmat: I believe you need the filename, not just the address of the server.
[20:25] <coventry> I updated a 13.04 machine, and can't get past the encryption key challenge during boot.  I can mount the encrypted drive from a rescue disc by following the cryptsetup instructions "tact" gives in this URL.  How can I diagnose what's failing during boot?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&s=5adf91c296adb0844fdc1ddeb6c7d9ad&p=5448385#post5448385
[20:25] <jhutchins> hikmat: That's because it can be <anything>.ks
[20:25] <jhutchins> or .cfg
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: can you pastebin the output of: lspci -k
[20:26] <hikmat> jhutchins: I just provided the IP. actually I am installing Ubuntu in Virtualbox. I have run to netcat server with each providing preseed and ks respectively at 8081 and 8082.
[20:26] <hikmat> two
[20:26] <CaBa> hi
[20:26] <coventry> hitsujiTMO: Sorry, will have to ask agoin later.  Thanks for the suggestion.
[20:26] <hikmat> preseeding is working with that way
[20:27] <hikmat> but why not ks
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: there's a bug with initramfs that could be the cause of the problem
[20:27] <CaBa> how can i disable, system wide, that users can mount other filesystem on internal hard drives? users should still be able to mount usb storage and optical media though
[20:27] <hikmat> I just checked whether ks is coming or not just by typing nc <IP_ADDRESS>:8082 in my host ..it's supplying content of ks.cfg
[20:28] <hikmat> *:
[20:29] <OerHeks> coventry, does your (usb)keyboard not work to give the encryptionkey ?
[20:29] <ubuntuuserhappy> iconia: ive confermed.  Running lxc-create -t ubuntu (the lxc package provided template) creates the ubuntu user with password ubuntu
[20:30] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: log a bug - mark it as a security bug
[20:30] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: unless the goal is that you are meant to change the password/delete the user upon login
[20:31] <ubuntuuserhappy> iconia: it warns you when you when you install it, but it get lost when installed with the common scripts, either way, dumb, where do i report  it as a bug?
[20:31] <ikonia> !bugs | ubuntuuserhappy
[20:31] <mortrca> My /etc/resolv.conf file has three nameserver entries. I thought having three in there meant that each nameserver would be queried until a match is found, but only the first entry in the list is queried.
[20:31] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: it looks like its supposed to be something like that
[20:32] <mortrca> How can I get queries to fall back on another server when the first one on the list fails?
[20:32] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: maybe worth checking the documentation then, as it could be uer error
[20:32] <ikonia> user
[20:33] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: no matter what, its a terrible idea to create a default user/password on what is almost always going to be a server install
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> mortrca: afaik its so that if it cannot access the first server it will try the second. not that if it cannot find
[20:33] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: not really, you need a default user/password to login, if you've not read the docs, it's user error, if it's not documented, then it's a bug
[20:34] <mortrca> hitsujiTMO: Okay, I guess that makes sense
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> mortrca: theres no reason why the primary, secondary, or tertiary dns's should differ