[11:57] <santhosh>  <m3kk>it is getting blue clolor desktop with lxde desktop icons
[11:58] <mantas> hello, how to convert from vfsv0 to vfsv1 quota format?
[11:58] <m3kk> Santosh something is clearly broken
[11:58] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, after selecting from grub, i'm prompted for my encrypted partition password, but the keyboard is dead, i'm stuck there
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> marlo: this may sound stupid but do you have another keyboard to attach and try?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> mantas: http://serverfault.com/questions/348015/setup-user-group-quotas-4tib-on-ubuntu
[11:59] <Hundred> ActionParsnip is tripwire like strace?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> marlo: i suggest you don't add 'literally' to stuff, you clearly have no idea of its usage
[11:59] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, it doesn't sound stupid, and some (blogs) have suggested it, and i have tried it, different keyboard, but nothing responds
[12:00] <m3kk> Action: i was running the command in "login" so my bad. It worked now thanks
[12:00] <vooze> http://imgur.com/lhFGVzA --> Hey guys, I have a problem when I try to mount my Android (SGS 4 with Google Play edition) to ubuntu 13.10. It just opens a lot of windows like crazy with all kinds of errors.. Can anyone see if they can mount android devices via USB just fine? I'm just curious if its my hardware or whats wrong
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Hundred: strace seems to monitor system calls from an application rather than monitor particular files
[12:01] <rogetfan> 这里有中国人吗
[12:01] <hitsujiTMO> marlo, is you caplock light or num lock light responding?
[12:01] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, nope.  and, i have a back-lit keyboard and all the lights shut off
[12:03] <nickoe> When one installs the nvidia-319 driver and have a 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[12:03] <nickoe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 780M] (rev a1)  graphics and boots to a balck screen witha cursor. What to do then?
[12:03] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, did you see the bug report link, this seems to be an old issue, but i just don't know how to get around it at this point; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1164198
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> nickoe: add the boot oprion:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:08] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: in what file exacty should I add that?
[12:08] <hemaolle> Can someone help me? I run out of harddisc space in middle of an installation and removed the texlive folder from /usr/share. Now I can't reinstall it with apt-get anymore.
[12:08] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: /etc/default/grub ?
[12:09] <malinus> the fact that xorg is eating 20% of cpu all the time, is due to unity, right?
[12:09] <mzaza> ActionParsnip: Ya, I will wait then :)
[12:09] <mzaza> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[12:09] <linuxnoobish> Hi, im facing an issue with when i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 having black screen on my terminal and all around of the windows i open
[12:10] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: ohh weell, he says it works now, after he rebooted again
[12:10] <hitsujiTMO> marlo: there may be a possible solution to your problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[12:10] <nerder> hello
[12:10] <SeoZ> hi all
[12:11] <nerder> how can i check if my video card is broken or not?
[12:11] <SeoZ> why apt-get install build-essential?
[12:11] <SeoZ> in Ubuntu 13.10?
[12:11] <marlo> hitsujiTMO, i see it, i'll give it a try
[12:11] <loop0> hi everyone, I did upgrade my ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 and now my ssh-keys are not unlocked at login, does someone knows how can I reset this settings so first time I use the keys ubuntu will ask me if I want to keep it unlocked?
[12:11] <marlo> thanks
[12:11] <linuxnoobish> anyone could help me with that issue
[12:12] <jhutchins> nerder: Does your monitor light up?
[12:12] <SeoZ> I got "The following packages have unmet dependencies"
[12:12] <SeoZ> just installed ubuntu 13.10.
[12:12] <nerder> jhutchins, yes, but the problem is that sometimes while i'm watching streaming video the pc turn off
[12:13] <nerder> jhutchins, could be a driver problem? I have Nvida G100
[12:13] <jhutchins> nerder: No, that's a problem with the power manager/screen saver.
[12:14] <jhutchins> nerder: The video player should have a setting that disables it, or you may have to change the settings for the desktop.
[12:14] <nerder> jhutchins, i'm not talking about just the monitor, but the entire machine
[12:14] <nickoe> ActionParsnip: well, lspci -k says it is the nvidia driver he has in use, and he still gets the black screen with a cursor when he logs in. Should he recreate the xorg.conf or somehting? I.e. delete it?
[12:16] <jhutchins> nerder: You might want to set up a system monitor to watch the temperature.  Sometimes streaming video will cause a system to overheat.
[12:16] <nerder> i'm pretty sure that temperature is ok
[12:21] <barthem> does anybody know if you can safely mount an ntfs file system on ubuntu? i know it can read it without problems but im not sure about the writing
[12:21] <cfhowlett> barthem, yep.  do it all the time.
[12:22] <barthem> okay, thanks
[12:28] <juken> Hi all, is there a document for installing 13.10 with whole disk encryption? I usually use the alternative iso, but I don't happen to see one.
[12:29] <jpds> juken: The normal desktop CD has LUKS support.
[12:30] <juken> jpds: perhaps I missed it during the install in my VM. Is there anything special I need to do?
[12:31] <jpds> juken: Should be in the normal partitioning menu as an option.
[12:31] <juken> jpds: ah, I think VMWare Player did more of an "automated" install. I should have better luck when installing on a physical machine, thanks for the help.
[12:37] <OmegaVII> hi all, is there anyone using 12.04?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, xubuntu 12.04
[12:39] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, do you have any zombie from lightdm?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, never noticed any such thing ...
[12:40] <coraxx> Is anybody up for a "routing question" ?
[12:40] <Ozch> I see that I got boost 1.46.0 installed by default in /usr/lib is it ok if I remove it and get 1.54.0 in there? Will I break any dependencies?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, and doesn't show up on ps -x
[12:41] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, so you got no "defunt" process in ubuntu? what is your lightdm version?
[12:41] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, I use "ps -ef | grep defunt"
[12:42] <cfhowlett> 1.2.3-Ooubuntu2.3 installed
[12:42] <nishanth> can i have some help with creating a partition ?
[12:42] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, I use "ps -ef | grep defunct"
[12:42] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, no defunct processes :)
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !partition|mishanth
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> !ask | coraxx
[12:43] <OmegaVII> chfhowlett, really thanks. I am using the same version but there is a defunct process...
[12:43] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, is it persistent after reboot?
[12:45] <barthem> might be a stuppid question, but why everything i type grayed out?
[12:45] <liquidmetal> Is there an offtopic channel here?
[12:45] <nishanth> cfhowlett i need to resize the disk space used by ubuntu, so that i can free some space and install win7 there
[12:45] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, yes, it will be created after reboot
[12:46] <cfhowlett> nishanth, boot your ubuntu disk/usb and use gparted to resize partitions
[12:46] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, over my rating.   sorry.
[12:47] <cfhowlett> OmegaVII, ask again.  lots of clever people about
[12:47] <OmegaVII> cfhowlett, really thanks for your reply
[12:49] <kapcom01> hello, my upgrade failed because i left out of free space. Now i Have freed 13GB and I want to complete the upgrade. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade says that there is nothing to upgraded.. so does apt-get upgrade. But I know that it failed ata about 60-70%...
[12:49] <sonu> Hi, I'm facing problem with Ubuntu 13.10 on Macbook for wifi and trackpad
[12:50] <ansu> quick question about cronjobs. am I save to set permissions on jobs defined in /etc/cron.d/ to 400 ?
[12:50] <sonu> does anyone know what's the solution ?
[12:51] <barthem> sonu, and what exactly is the problem?
[12:51] <SliMM> Hello. Is there any way I could automatically mount a network drive just after I connect to a network (and, perhaps, unmount it when I disconnect). How about just after I connect to a particular network?
[12:51] <fluo75|2> barthem: Good point :)
[12:51] <sonu> barthem: WiFi adaptor is not seen at all
[12:52] <trippah> should i install ubuntu or crunchbang?
[12:52] <sonu> barthem: trackpad works only with a hard press and does not respond with a normal touch
[12:52] <trippah> i mean xubuntu
[12:52] <barthem> sliMM this worked for me on a ubuntu VM https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:52] <auronandace> trippah: up to you, but we can't support crunchbang here
[12:53] <trippah> why use ubuntu when there is debian?
[12:53] <barthem> sonu: if the wifi adapter isnt seen at all you might wana try to install the driver for it manually
[12:53] <Depa> Hi guys! :) I Installed Ubuntu 13.10 (x64)
[12:53] <Depa> and now I would like to install Skype
[12:54] <trippah> there is too many to chooices
[12:54] <auronandace> trippah: different tools for different uses
[12:54] <barthem> sonu: and regarding the trackpad, that sounds more like a hardware problem then a software to me
[12:54] <sonu> barthem: from where migtht I get the drivers?
[12:54] <Depa> I downloaded the DEB from the site... but "dpkg -i" show me a lot of error
[12:54] <sonu> barthem: it's strange as the wifi used to work well on 13.0
[12:54] <sonu> 13.04
[12:55] <barthem> sonu: i always get them from the manufactures website,
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> ansu: you might want to make it 500
[12:55] <sonu> barthem: so, apple.com for macbook?
[12:56] <barthem> Depa: try to open it with the ubuntu Software Center instead
[12:56] <mbeierl> sonu: it may or may not be relevant, but when I did an upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 on a Dell system, I had to go into the software preferences and deselect use restricted drivers, reboot, then enable it again and my wifi came back
[12:57] <barthem> sonu: No the manufactures website from your network card, apple only sells them, but the different computer parts come from different vendors
[12:57] <Depa> barthem: I installed Server version, with KDE
[12:57] <mbeierl> sonu, I was following a thread about wifi and trackpad not working, and it was pointed out that the restricted drivers may get in the way.  No explanation was given, and I don't have the reference handy
[12:57] <barthem> Depa: no offense, but why would you want to install skype on a ubuntu server?
[12:57] <ansu> hitsujiTMO: yea makes sense :) but nevertheless I'm right in the assumption that these scripts are executed by root?
[12:57] <sonu> mbeierl: how to remove these restricted drivers?
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> ansu, i believe so
[12:58] <sonu> mbeierl: I wonder why this change is made on 13.10 while 13.04 was good
[12:58] <Depa> barthem: Is not my decision...
[12:58] <mbeierl> It's under Preferences -> Sofware Sources, I believe.  Don't have my Ubuntu laptop handy
[12:58] <FS1> I'm sort of a newbie, but I'm trying to upgrade to 13.10... and it says I don't have enough disk space, even though I have a 600 GB harddrive and there's hardly anything on this computer.  Can anyone help me?
[12:58] <mbeierl> sonu, ^
[12:59] <barthem> Depa: ^^, whats the error you get if you use dkpg?
[12:59] <mbeierl> sonu, and it's not that 13.10 is not good, it's that something in the upgrade did not get triggered to update the restricted driver for the kernel.  That is my theory, but I have not attempted to reproduce it, so I have not filed a bug report
[12:59] <Depa> "Dependency problems..."
[13:00] <sonu> mbeierl: thanks, please give me some starting point to disable these drivers...
[13:00] <Depa> It needssome librsary but I already have it!
[13:00] <sonu> I shall get that done from there
[13:00] <Depa> simply I have che 64 bit ones
[13:00] <mbeierl> FS1, pastebin the output of df -h.  That command lists all the partitions (mount points) in your system.  It may be that one of them does not have enough space
[13:00] <Depa> need some library*
[13:00] <mbeierl> !pastebin
[13:01] <barthem> Depa: Depenency problems are a bit over my hat, i cant help you with that
[13:01] <FS1> mbeierl: http://pastebin.com/0MgsmhEb
[13:01] <mbeierl> sonu, Go to the main menu.  Look for Preferences, and then Software Sources.
[13:01] <Depa> barthem: I can't give you a paste, because is on another PC
[13:02] <sevenearths> I am just about to run the following line 'sudo apt-get build-dep python-psycopg2'. I have a local version of django with postgresql that is working (& I want to keep it that way). Will this command break any of that?
[13:02] <FS1> so I guess /boot is full?  I don't know why it's so small
[13:02] <ansu> hitsujiTMO: regarding 500. checking the files in /etc/cron.daily/ they're all executable but the ones in cron.d/ are not. so i'm not really sure about that executable flag
[13:02] <mbeierl> FS1, it is your /boot partition that has run out of space.  Not sure off the top of my head how to clear that up.  Remove old kernels?
[13:02] <odyssey4me> Has anyone noticed that somewhere along the line in one of the updates for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS the default lvm volume type changed to sparse volumes? This is causing me some trouble with preseeding and I'm wondering whether anyone knows how to ensure that it doesn't do sparse volumes.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> FS1: uninstall old kernels to free space
[13:03] <mbeierl> FS1, the boot paritition is usually created automatically as part of the installation and is made small as it only contains files needed to start the boot process for the OS.
[13:03] <hitsujiTMO> ansu depends on how they are called, there's no harm on adding +x to be safe ...
[13:03] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip, is there an autoremove or something for kernels?
[13:03] <SchrodingersScat> mbeierl: could try apt-get autoremove?
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> mbeierl: no, you need to manually purge old kernels
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: ubuntu-tweak does it, or you can look at the current kernel version and remove the others using apt-get
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: autoremove only removes packages marked for removal due to failed deps
[13:04] <mbeierl> FS1: ^  give that a shot.
[13:05] <mbeierl> there used to be a setting in the apt conf somewhere that allowed for the automaticf deletion of old kernels, but it was removed because if a new kernel came down and it was broken, you were out of luck on next boot
[13:05] <griphus> hi
[13:06] <mbeierl> FS1, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/remove-old-kernels-from-ubuntu-13-04-13-10/
[13:06] <FS1> mbeierl: I tried apt-get autoremove, and it failed because there was not enough space, lol http://pastebin.com/a07CJqFv
[13:07] <FS1> ok, I'll do that now thanks
[13:10] <FS1> oh my goodness, I have like a dozen old kernels... these don't remove themselves?
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> fs1: no its unsafe to auto remove old kernels in case the new one breaks
[13:11] <FS1> so everyone gets the problem of their /boot directory filling up eventually?
[13:12] <ola2> hello firends i have a question
[13:12] <ola2> i want to execute a program when someone opens an image
[13:12] <ola2> the program will run in background and user will see image
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> fs1: yes if they have a seperate /boot partition ... but normally you'd only add a seperate /boot of you knew what was going on in there
[13:14] <ola2> anybody plz help
[13:14] <cfhowlett> ola2, and no notification that you just launched an executable in their system?  sounds highly suspicious
[13:14] <ola2> no i want to open a happy birthday message when they open image
[13:14] <ola2> in java joptionspane is for message
[13:15] <ola2> so when they open image java would popup a message
[13:15] <cfhowlett> ola2, sounds like you should ask the java programming folk about hat.
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !java
[13:15] <ola2> ok i say everything is installed
[13:15] <ola2> now tell me
[13:15] <ola2> its jar file
[13:16] <ola2> jar file java is installed
[13:16] <cfhowlett> ola2, ask in #jav
[13:16] <bean> ola2, this is pretty offtopic
[13:16] <cfhowlett> #java
[13:16] <bean> !ot | ola2
[13:16] <bean> this is not support related, this is "how can i troll my friend" related
[13:16] <ola2> its not off the topic
[13:16] <ola2> i will open this in linux
[13:16] <ola2> ubuntu
[13:16] <ola2> thats why im asking
[13:16] <bean> yep, but do you have something broken with your ubuntu install?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> ola2, it is.  sorry.  ask in #java, that's where java programming happens
[13:16] <ola2> hahaha
[13:17] <ola2> its not about java
[13:17] <ola2> i can make this in any language
[13:17] <ola2> even in shell script
[13:17] <ola2> now tell me
[13:17] <ola2> just popup message when image opens
[13:17] <cfhowlett> ola2, <ola2> in java joptionspane is for message
 so when they open image java would popup a message
[13:17] <bean> ola2, "now tell me" is pretty demanding.
[13:17] <ola2> ya
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !attitude, ola2
[13:18] <ola2> i need all ur help
[13:18] <bean> !attitude | ola2
[13:18] <ola2> no i want help
[13:18] <hitsujiTMO> ola2 that is not a support question, its a dev question, maybe ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:18] <ola2> wo man u can answer or say no
[13:18] <ola2> u are all giving advise
[13:18] <ola2> dev channel say ask on ubuntu
[13:19] <cfhowlett> ola2, have you even tried to ask on the java channel?
[13:19] <bean> ola2, again I ask, is something broken with your ubuntu installation?
[13:19] <ola2> ya
[13:19] <ola2> they said its not about java
[13:19] <bean> oh, okay, then please tell me what is broken.
[13:20] <ola2> what i want is to open popup message when someone opens image on ubuntu
[13:20] <ola2> now is it ok
[13:20] <ola2> all channel say go to another one
[13:20] <bean> ola2, because it sounds silly suspiscious
[13:21] <bean> the only thing you could do it write a shell script that opens both.
[13:21] <cfhowlett> ola2, AND you want it to run in the background, you said
[13:21] <ola2> ya process wil run in background
[13:21] <bean> theres no way to do "when this image opens, run this command"
[13:21] <ola2> and it will popup message
[13:21] <bean> ola2, yeah, i'm done helping.
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> ola2, just write .desktop link to your app, give it the icon of an image
[13:22] <ola2> i  have done that
[13:22] <cfhowlett> ola2, so STILL not an ubuntu support question...
[13:22] <ola2> but to user im giving this file doesnot want this
[13:22] <ola2> because i want to run this on ubuntu
[13:22] <ola2> linux requires permission i have given it
[13:23] <ola2> still not working
[13:23] <bean> ola2, yep, im def not going to help this, sounds way too much like you're trying to pwn someones machine
[13:23] <bean> so, ola2, there's nothing wrong with your ubuntu installation.
[13:23] <cfhowlett> ^^^ this
[13:23] <bean> so please, stop.
[13:23] <ola2> bean is ubuntu channel all about installation stuff
[13:24] <ola2> im asking about a different question related to ubuntu
[13:24] <ola2> if u dont want to answer its okay
[13:24] <cfhowlett> ola2, related to but NOT a support question.  sorry
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !ot
[13:24] <hitsujiTMO> ola2, we have answered your question to the best of out ability.
[13:24] <ola2> i have done that
[13:24] <ola2> means i made exe with image like icon
[13:24] <LPhas> Hi, i just upgraded to win 8.1 on a dual boot machine and of course it screwed grub. Problem is that this is an UEFI laptot and i seem not to be able to get a UEFI bootable usb stick. I tried with dd and some other tools but no luck. Any hints?
[13:25] <ola2> i gave it to friend
[13:25]  * bean adds ola2 to his ignore list.
[13:25] <mbeierl> sorry, FS1, afk for a bit.  Yes, it's an ongoing issue to keep cleaning up old kernels.
[13:25] <ola2> and he said its not working
[13:25] <cfhowlett> ola2, we're not going to address this here.  you've been told as much.  sorry, but you're in the wrong channel.
[13:25] <Rory> LPhas: My favourite tool to create a bootable USB is Linux Live USB (http://www.linuxliveusb.com) - I've used it on my UEFI system with no problems
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> ola2, this is definitely not a support question then. you are in the wrong channel
[13:25] <DJones> ola2: This is not something that we can help you with. Please don't ask again
[13:26] <mbeierl> FS1, after an update, once you have confirmed the new kernel works by rebooting, you can use the command in here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[13:26] <LPhas> Rory this is the last one i tried, no luck
[13:27] <Rory> LPhas: Sure it's not just a dodgy flash drive? Do you have a blank DVD or another drive to hand?
[13:27] <hitsujiTMO> lphas: what is exactly the problem when you try to boot the usb?
[13:27] <LPhas> Heh, i got no dvd reader.
[13:27] <GeorgeJetson> Hello, I increased the number of workspaces using MyUnity  in Ubuntu 12.04 but the navigator in the dock still only shows 4 workspaces, not the 8 I created.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> GeorgeJetson: if you log off  and on is it ok?
[13:28] <GeorgeJetson> ActionParsnip: I have not tried that. I will try now
[13:32] <Gordio> wow. You see this?
[13:32] <lenzeor> Ubuntu update has left me with a bricked system... again..
[13:32] <Gordio> Ops sorry :) I find why this happens. :)
[13:33] <Rory> !details | lenzeor
[13:33] <Gordio> I copy ubuntu-13.10 to USB and load with grub4dos. But! After load I see "Install Ubuntu 13.04" and "Install Ubuntu 13.10" on desktop.
[13:34] <Rory> Gordio: Was there anything already on the USB before? I think you should format it first
[13:34] <lenzeor> Yup... Rory. I will make a live stick so I can read the log files. When I try to boot into the new Kernel, I get a splash screen and then a blank screen.
[13:34] <cfhowlett> Gordio, copy 13.10 to usb?  copy doesn't make a bootable.
[13:34] <Rory> lenzeor: Can you use a Recovery Mode from the grub menu?
[13:35] <lenzeor> Yup, should I try that first?
[13:35] <Gordio> before this I run ubuntu 13.04 and create casper-rw. My desktop (Ubuntu 13.04) saved to casper-rw :D
[13:35] <estudiante> facebook
[13:35] <Gordio> But I realy thinking Ubuntu find iso with ubuntu-13.04 and show me "Install" icon :D
[13:36] <lenzeor> Yup, should I try that first, Rory?
[13:36] <SteveBell> nice issue: I'm updating from 12.04 to 12.10 and the confirm button for removing packages dialogue is off screen. enter doesn't do anything. now what?!
[13:36] <Gordio> cfhowlett, I use grub4dos for load iso file :-P
[13:36] <m3kk> Is there a way to install unity on xubuntu 13.10 just to test how performance is?
[13:36] <lenzeor> m3kk "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Gordio, never used it.
[13:37] <lenzeor> then log out and choose unity before logging in again m3kk
[13:37] <cfhowlett> Gordio, format your stick and try again
[13:37] <m3kk> lenzeor, wont that install a  tons of more packages? that i dont need? or just unity desktop?
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> m3kk try a simulation and see
[13:38] <m3kk> hitsujiTMO, you mean in a virtual machine?
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> apt-get -s install
[13:38] <Gordio> cfhowlett, why? I loss my data :P
[13:38] <lenzeor> m3kk it will install more packages, I think you can also "sudo apt-get unity"
[13:39] <Gordio> I find "problem"
[13:39] <Gordio> Reread my messages. And sorry my very bad English.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Gordio, back up your data, format your stick, make a new ubuntu install stick.
[13:39] <Gordio> My "problem" casper-rw :)
[13:39] <Gordio> cfhowlett, I'm not crazy, sorry man :D
[13:40] <Gordio> My desktop with "Install Ubuntu 13.04" icon saved to casper-rw :D
[13:40] <Rory> !install | Gordio I'd recommend following the instructions here rather than grub4dos
[13:40] <Gordio> Ok. bb
[13:40] <m3kk> lenzeor, yes i was just reading about that.. will that install just the desktop enviroaḿent
[13:41] <Gordio> ubottu, no :) I don't have problems :D I use Ubuntu only from install Gentoo :P
[13:41] <Gordio> hehe)
[13:41] <Gordio> s/from/for/
[13:42] <Gordio> bb
[13:42] <Sander^lap> When is the new version of ubuntu out?
[13:42] <Rory> Sander^lap: Yesterday
[13:42] <Sander^lap> Ok, thanks :-)
[13:43] <md70> there is any .deb software GUI to backup my system like norton ghost on windows? thanks
[13:43] <DJones> !backup | md70
[13:45] <labsin> Is any one else having 2 network indicators after switching to Sausy?
[13:46] <md70> DJones, ubottu  thanks
[13:46] <DJones> md70: Hope there's something useful in the bots links
[13:46] <Paddy_NI> I am having an odd problem with adding ppas
[13:46] <crak> hi all
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> !details | Paddy_NI
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> Well actually after adding certain ppas and performing "sudo apt-get update" I get 404s for those ppas
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> which ppas?
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Would you be able to test them I can provide the links?
[13:47] <Paddy_NI> Just a sec
[13:47] <md70> DJones: yes it is so useful .. i read it now .. thanks babe
[13:48] <crak> i upgraded to 13.10 and my apache does not work any more. i used custom-exec and fcgi. after upgrade it is broken. so i installed php5-fpm to get rid of suexec. but still 403. my problem is exactly the same as http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19445686/ubuntu-server-apache-2-4-6-client-denied-by-server-configuration-php-fpm
[13:48] <crak> can anybody help me debugging it?'
[13:48] <md70> i jyst need to have a copy of my ubuntu system on a flash usb stick and keep it away
[13:49] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Okay so as follows: ppa:yg-jensge/gupnp & ppa:gstreamer-developers/ppa & ppa:vala-team/ppa & ppa:clipgrab-team/ppa
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> crak: there is a new version of apache2 on 13.10 completely new configs
[13:49] <lnostdal> hello guys, i figured using chromium would be a better idea than using chrome, but as the weeks and sometimes months roll by i see the version (on the ppa: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable ) lagging somewhat ...this is worrying as the new releases has a lot of security fixes http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.pt/search/label/Stable%20updates  ...   is there a better ppa out there?
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> paddy_ni what system are you using?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> what version of ubuntu that is
[13:50] <crak> hitsujiTMO: yeah, i already changed to the Require configs as shown here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#run-time
[13:50] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, fresh and updated 13.10 (64 bit)
[13:50] <ChogyDan> lnostdal: I don't think there is
[13:50] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Web is working perfectly and other ppas such as "webupd8" works
[13:50] <lnostdal> ChogyDan: hm, yeah, too bad :/  ..this must be something that worry more people than just me
[13:51] <raub> Can anyone point me to instructions on creating a PPA?
[13:51] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, While troubleshooting I also added Googles Public DNS to see if that would help
[13:51] <PimpSmurf> Any reason why Ubuntu shows any of my 3 wireless network adaptors, but doesn't show any networks during install?
[13:51] <ChogyDan> lnostdal: well, it's been discussed.  There is a lack of resources, and you can use google-chrome
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> paddy_ni, i think they are not supprting saucy in the broken ppas is your problem
[13:51] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Oh :-(
[13:52] <lnostdal> ChogyDan: yup, i think i'll just have to "downgrade" to Google Chrome for now :]
[13:52] <Paddy_NI> I had not even checked that
[13:52] <crak> hitsujiTMO: the error.log says client denied by server configuration: /fcgi-bin-php5-fpm
[13:52] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, You're right :-(
[13:52] <ZeThomas> guys I need your help: I installed lubuntu yesterday on a fresh laptop, but t freezes, most of the time right after the grub menu, but one time i got up to x, to get errors in xorg and plymoutd, and then a freeze. It is a total freeze, not even reisub works..
[13:53] <Paddy_NI> I will have to hope that minidlna is available for saucy hitsujiTMO otherwise I may cry like a child
[13:53] <Seveas> !info minidlna saucy
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> zethomos what exactly are you getting on the screen?
[13:54] <Seveas> Paddy_NI: it's available :)
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: ^^
[13:54] <Paddy_NI> Seveas, Yaaay :-D
[13:54] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, well, mostly, just nothing
[13:54] <drecute> can a grub2 reinstall fix kernel parnic?
[13:54] <ZeThomas> black screen
[13:54] <drecute> *panic
[13:54] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: can you get into recovery mode?
[13:54] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, and the power and wifi light that burn
[13:54] <Seveas> drecute: nope.
[13:54] <costin_> ubuntu is poor
[13:55] <xlucas> Hi, I have a problem with my nvidia graphics card (FX 3800) in ubuntu 13.10. I'm currently using the official driver 304.88
[13:55] <Seveas> costin_: so donate some money :)
[13:55] <SliMM> I'm trying to use sshfs, but for some reason it's not using my RSA key to connect to the server and instead asks for the user password. Any ideas why?
[13:55] <drecute> Seveas: uh!
[13:55] <Seveas> drecute: normal ssh works fine?
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> crak: i would advise doing a reinstall if you can,
[13:55] <Seveas> err...
[13:55] <crak> hitsujiTMO: i changed /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/php5-fpm.conf
[13:55] <Seveas> SliMM: normal ssh works fine?
[13:55] <costin_> Seveas  i am very poor  :)
[13:55] <crak> hitsujiTMO: i set all to Require all granted and it works now...
[13:56] <hitsujiTMO> ah cool
[13:56] <Seveas> costin_: then Ubuntu is excellent for you, it's free :)
[13:56] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, sometimes i don't even get up to the grub screen...
[13:56] <drecute> Seveas: what would you suggest as a solution to "kernel panic"?
[13:56] <crak> hitsujiTMO: it is a local server to develop so i can risk it...
[13:56] <crak> hitsujiTMO: thank you for your help!
[13:56] <Seveas> drecute: take a photo of the panic traceback with your phone and show it to us. The traceback may point in the correct direction
[13:57] <SliMM> Seveas: seems to
[13:57] <costin_> Seveas maybe in 2010,unity is poor
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: hold shift during boot
[13:57] <Seveas> SliMM: try sshfs -o ssh_command='ssh -vvv' -- it may show more debug ouput.
[13:58] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I am in the recovery menu
[13:58] <Seveas> drecute: also try sshfs -o IdentityFile=/path/to/public key to encourage it a bit more
[13:58] <Seveas> s/public/private/
[13:59] <costin_> Seveas now I have installed Lubuntu,and my intel e8400 is fly
[13:59] <drecute> Seveas: I belive that ain't for me
[13:59] <blaizco> Hi folks. I can't get Full HD on Ubuntu screen resolution altough I have ATI Drivers installed. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[13:59] <Seveas> drecute: nope, SliMM again. I don't know why I keep doing that :)
[13:59] <blaizco> I have searched on Google and nothing....
[14:00] <Seveas> !ati | blaizco, checked this already?
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: have a look at /var/log/boot.log   or /var/log/dmesg    see if you can spot the error in therre
[14:00] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, within the recovery menu it gave a kernel panic...
[14:01] <SliMM> Seveas: actually, turns out I had wrong permissions on the file
[14:01] <SliMM> Seveas: And probably normal SSH was using ssh-agent with an older version of the key
[14:01] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000b00"
[14:02] <Seveas> ZeThomas: it's the lines that come before that that are interesting
[14:03] <Seveas> ZeThomas: whatever is pretending to be init on your system is exiting (maybe crashing)
[14:03] <ZeThomas> Seveas, that it didn't show, it came on top of the recovery menu
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: can you get us a pic of the entire panic?
[14:03] <Seveas> ZeThomas: what did you pick in the recovery menu?
[14:04] <drecute> Seveas: http://imgur.com/SxpvV3Y
[14:04] <ZeThomas> Seveas, nothing yet, I was waiting for instructions, and there it came, in the middle of the screen
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> zethomas: try booting a live cd   ...   mount the drive and link us /var/log/kern.log
[14:05] <drecute> Seveas: if I type exit from initramfs, I get a kernel panic
[14:07] <Seveas> drecute: well, yes, that's normal
[14:08] <Seveas> as you're killint pid 1 at that point
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:08] <Seveas> but what that picture clearly show is that your harddisk is fried. Boot from a live cd, plug in a usb stick, and try to rescue as much as you can
[14:08] <drecute> Seveas: yes, it seems like it's my hard disk
[14:09] <drecute> but it's not
[14:09] <drecute> I have successfully ran fsck commands and it reports no errors
[14:09] <drecute> says it's clean
[14:10] <Seveas> intriguing
[14:10] <pumpi3> test
[14:10] <pumpi3> testing
[14:10] <pumpi3> anyone here?
[14:10] <Seveas> I still wouldn't risk it and just grab a new one
[14:10] <Seveas> pumpi3: no, nobody's here
[14:10] <ZeThomas> Seveas, hitsujiTMO, now I get this on reboot... http://imgur.com/IANewCi
[14:10] <pumpi3> I've got a little question regarding the installation of Ubuntu 13.10
[14:10] <pumpi3> oh okay, I guess I'll talk to the present ghosts in this room then
[14:11] <ZeThomas> it stopped lowering at 250, and now it's frozen again
[14:11] <Seveas> pumpi3: wht's the question?
[14:12] <pumpi3> I work on a Lenovo Ideapad Y500, and I want to do a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10, so I used the pendrive installer as mentioned on the website, and wrote the iso to a usb-stick. After that I restarted my computer, changed UEFI into Legacy, but my laptop doesn't want to start up the installation
[14:13] <pumpi3> and almost freezes in the Lenovo welcome screen
[14:13] <pumpi3> USB is enabled in BIOS
[14:13] <Seveas> did you just copy the iso onto the usb disk or did you make a proper bootdisk?
[14:15] <cbilljones> can i create symlinks to every file in a folder somehow?
[14:15] <Seveas> cbilljones: sure
[14:16] <cbilljones> seveas with one command though?
[14:17] <Seveas> cbilljones: for f in /path/to/folder/*; do echo ln -s "$f"; done
[14:17] <Seveas> and remove the echo once you've verified it'll do the right thing
[14:18] <cbilljones> thx seveas i will try this when i get to office
[14:18] <cuco> hi, ubuntu phone development is here...?
[14:19] <Seveas> cuco: no, not really
[14:19] <ZeThomas> cuco, no that is in #ubuntu-touch
[14:19] <cuco> thanks :)
[14:19] <ishwon> hi folks. i have an issue when logging to http://loco.ubuntu.com.
[14:19] <ishwon> it says : The username () with which you tried to log in is already in use for a different account.
[14:19] <pumpi3> Seveas: I used the pendrive usb installer as mentioned on the site of ubuntu, and as a result I should have made a proper bootdisk
[14:20] <ishwon> it seems the bug has been reported by many, but i can't find a solution online.
[14:20] <ishwon> anybody can help with this?
[14:20] <IamTrying> This never works, what else i can do ? Everywhere its mentioned to use this 1) power : gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power active false 2) screen saver : gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ishwon: same with all browsers?
[14:21] <Seveas> pumpi3: ok, only other thing I can think of is trying a different disk, or trying this disk in a different computer to verify if it works
[14:22] <pumpi3> okay, will try it when I have the possibility. Installing with a CD does work though.
[14:22] <ishwon> ActionParsnip: yes, same with firefox & google chrome
[14:22] <IamTrying> Why it never works??? 1) power : gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power active false 2) screen saver : gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> Oct 18 03:31:43 <zeifer>	Ari-Yang, following the 10.10 guide for removing pulse and going with alsa nowadays pulls in pulseaudio regardless of user request.
[14:23] <Ari-Yang>  ----> what? You can remove pulseaudio and just use alsa, what are you talking about?
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> guys, am I right? ^
[14:23] <Ari-Yang> oh he quit...
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> regardless, what zeifer said, is it true?
[14:24] <sophie_> Is Pulseaudio still iffy nowadays? I've not had any troubles with it as of 13.04.
[14:24] <Kurza> Hello, I have a problem with ubuntu 12.04. Its wifi connection randomly disconnect. The laptop I run it on has Atheros network card. Any ideas?
[14:24] <ChogyDan> Ari-Yang: I think alsa may just feed into pulse
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> Kurza: if if you're using proprietary wifi driver, try wifi without it?
[14:25] <Ari-Yang> sophie_: he's using 13.04 too, go figure
[14:25] <ishwon> anyone who can advise of the loco.ubuntu.com login issue?
[14:25] <IamTrying> Is this the culprit of all root?    15:25   0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver --no-daemon  ????
[14:25] <Ari-Yang> ChogyDan: exactly, I told him to remove pulseaudio and alsa then install alsa, I don't think he did
[14:25] <Ari-Yang> :/
[14:25] <sophie_> I just remember having to always uninstall it and switch to alsa back on 8.10
[14:25] <JoeyJoeJo> If my computer is set to DHCP and it doesn't get an IP address at boot, will it keep trying to get an IP or only when the computer boots?
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> JoeyJoeJo: it will periodically try
[14:26] <JoeyJoeJo> thanks
[14:27] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6257496 is my /var/log/kern.log
[14:27] <Sander^lap> How do I change what the default kernel to boot is?
[14:28] <masak> hi -- hiding the title bar on gnome-terminal windows? preferably without compiz, just with a setting somewhere.
[14:28] <IamTrying> When Ubuntu desktop is running does it depend on "gnome-screensaver" daemon ???
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: seems to be a problem with /dev/sda1
[14:29] <IamTrying> Which one triggers that login screen automatically always? is it gnome-screensaver or something else?
[14:29] <flyn4x4> controller
[14:30] <IamTrying> flyn4x4, which controller?
[14:30] <flyn4x4> acpi
[14:30] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, that is some EFI partition
[14:30] <IamTrying> flyn4x4, then this should be it $ export DISPLAY=:0.0 && killall gnome-screensaver ; xset dpms force on & ?
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> zethomas, that could be part of the problem, run fsck on the drive
[14:32] <Hanumaan> xlucas, can you give your xorg.conf file paste here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:32] <masak> all I find online is to hide the title bar on maximized terminal windows. I'd like to hide it always.
[14:33] <IamTrying> flyn4x4, what if the display driver is not correct with kernel? will xset dpms force on work?
[14:34] <umesh> Well Are you people from bangalore? by mistake also
[14:34] <CEnnis91> any common issues after upgrading to 13.10?
[14:34] <Sander^lap> I get up a message in 13.10 that it appears i'm running a mainline kernel, and that an bug was discovered.. Even tho I booted into an ubuntu kernel.
[14:34] <m3kk> Alright guys, i wanted to try out unity for the sake of comparision and i dont want to install full fledged ubuntu-desktop so i did install just unity, but lightdm does not show Unity as a session. is there any way around this? Install differnt login manager?
[14:34] <CEnnis91> looking to do it on a work pc, so I can't have too much downtime
[14:34] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, fsck says: 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt; Remove dirty bit?
[14:34] <umesh> It is gr8! ubuntu 13.1 rocks
[14:35] <umesh> and rolls
[14:35] <Sander^lap> It might be because I upgraded from 13.04
[14:35] <umesh> YEah 13.04 sucks big time
[14:35] <jhutchins> ZeThomas: Yes.
[14:35] <umesh> I had trouble with sound
[14:35] <umesh> it is resolved on 13.1
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> CEnnis91: some issues with graphics and ppas, nothing too out of the ordinary ... you should dd your drive before giving it a shot
[14:36] <strit> Anyone else with an NVIDIA card get a black screen by the 13.10 upgrade?
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> strit: lots of peeps :P  .... what driver are you using  ... and whats the contents of your xorg log?
[14:38] <ZeThomas> jhutchins, hitsujiTMO , i do that, and fsck exits with "Leaving file system unchanged. /dev/sda1: 5 files, 556/124424 clusters"
[14:39] <ZeThomas> what do I do now, (try to) reboot in the system?
[14:39] <jhutchins> ZeThomas: What filesystem is it?
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> vfat
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> jhutchins: its efi boot
[14:40] <CEnnis91> hitsujiTMO: meh problems with nvidia? (surprise) ill hold off for a bit
[14:40] <strit> hitsujiTMO, I'm not on the machine atm, but it should be the drivers that comes with 13.10. 319.xx I believe. No xorg.conf. Just a .failsafe, which doesn't work either. :)
[14:41] <ZeThomas> jhutchins, fdisk reports /dev/sda as being GPT...
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164185
[14:41] <ZeThomas> this is how my install has set it up, it was a clean disk (out of factory)
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> strit: is it proprietary driver or nouveau? not your conf but your log ... should be /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:43] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, ok, I ran fsck with the -a flag, and now it says changes are performed. I will now try to boot again into my system
[14:43] <xbb> After upgrading to Ubuntu 13.10 when I click on any menus (Help, Window, Run) they don't show up. Only selection and menu stubs are visible, screenshot is here http://i.imgur.com/afbRlRF.png. I tried installing fresh 4.3 and same thing is happening. Can anybody confirm this before I switch to Windows? Oh God...
[14:44] <CEnnis91> hitsujiTMO: is nouveau recommended over the prop drivers?
[14:44] <CEnnis91> i've never dealt with nvidia cards outside of my job
[14:45] <strit> Probably proprietary. The ones that is with 13.10 install. :) haven't checked my log yet. I've been able to boot into driver 304 with a nomodeset parameter hitsujiTMO . But my keyboard input doesn't work there. :)
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> CEnnis91: it depends on what you want ... if you need 3d acceleration go with proprietary drivers
[14:45] <erle-> are logs from /var/crash save to upload from a privacy perspective?
[14:45] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I set it so fsck automatically runs every time at boot but doesn't ask for any user input?
[14:45] <CEnnis91> hitsujiTMO: if i don't what's the advantage?
[14:45] <CEnnis91> just because it's open?
[14:47] <Bakajin> I am running 12.04 LTS and recently am having trouble downloading repository info.  It says to check my internet connection, but I think the connection is well.  Seeing as I can be here.  I am a total noob.
[14:47] <Bakajin> Is my issue the connection?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> nouveau seems to be more stable between kernel upgrades but has a tendency to run gpus on full blast all the time ... proprietary tends to allow for better power management .... normally  its stick with nouveau unless you need 3d accelleration or you have issues with it
[14:47] <Bakajin> Or is the repository missing somewhere.
[14:47] <xtriz> are there any xfce distro based on ubuntu ?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> xubuntu xtriz
[14:48] <xtriz> hitsujiTMO, ok :) any other ?
[14:48] <bluechaos> hitsujiTMO,
[14:48] <bluechaos> hello my friend
[14:48] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I get into x, but am greeted with an error in /sbin/initctl
[14:48] <bluechaos> how are you
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> good bluechaos
[14:49] <xlucas> Hanumaan - xorg.conf file pasted in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6257640/
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> xtriz, i dont use xfce so haven't been tracking them
[14:49] <xtriz> hitsujiTMO, ok np :)
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: whats the exact error ?
[14:50] <masak> anyone have any tips on how to get rid of gnome-terminal's title bar?
[14:50] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: this looks like an interesting way to me --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck
[14:51] <JoeyJoeJo> thanks batman
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: what brand of drive is this? its odd to be running into such issues on a fresh drive
[14:51] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, a samsung 840 evo ssd
[14:52] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I lost the error :( where can I find it back?
[14:52] <SlvrYeti> Hello. I've just upgraded to 13.10 and my Ubuntu One no longer has a contextual menu or shows sync indicators on synced folders.
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: try the logs in /var/log   could be in kern.log boot.log or dmesg
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> masak: whats the exact issue? can you screen shot it?
[14:54] <hatchetjack> how do I disable the tracker in 13.10?
[14:54] <hatchetjack> it's eating my cpu cycles
[14:54] <Seveas> hatchetjack: it's called zeitgeist, remove the package :)
[14:54] <SuperLag> I am on a ThinkPad W530, and I'm trying to configure Skype audio, so that I can use my headset for talking on calls... but I'm not sure how to tell *which* sound device to use, as there are several listed.
[14:54] <Seveas> first thing I do as well
[14:55] <masak> hitsujiTMO: oh, no issue, just a personal preference. would like a gnome-terminal window to be created without the title bar. ISTR I succeeded in doing that with some setting somewhere on a previous install of Linux Mint. but I don't recall how.
[14:56] <Marlenee> i setup apache server on my server and it seem that port 80 is closed
[14:56] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: perhaps 'tune2fs -C 1 /dev/sdaX' is cleaner.that article looks dated. my apologies.
[14:56] <Marlenee> how i iopen port 80 in my server via CLI
[14:56] <hatchetjack> Seveas: thanks, it's whacked
[14:56] <SuperLag> Seveas: wjat
[14:57] <SuperLag> Seveas: what's wrong with zeitgeist?
[14:57] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, it's in apport.log i think, here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6257690
[14:58] <SuperLag> Seveas: hatchetjack: and why do you call this a "tracker"?
[14:58] <JoeyJoeJo> bwayne: Do you know if that tune2fs command will stop the boot process and ask for confirmation from the user before it runs?
[14:59] <hatchetjack> SuperLag: aptitude show zeitgeist
[14:59] <hatchetjack> SuperLag: not sure if it was this tracker-extract process eating my cpu or not though
[15:00] <iBelieve> I'm interested in starting a website/blog about Ubuntu Touch & apps for it. Am I allowed to use "Ubuntu Touch" in the name, such as "Ubuntu Touch News & Apps"?
[15:00] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, no that's from before; I find no other mention of initctl in /var/log, except in ./upstart/plymouth-ready-startup.log
[15:00] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: one moment.
[15:01] <bwayne> Marlenee: if you're going to run a server, I think it'd be better for me to teach you how to fish, or at least tell you where the fish are .  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[15:02] <Seveas> iBelieve: we cannot answer that. Please contact canonical's legal department.
[15:02] <iBelieve> Seveas, okay, thanks
[15:03] <Seveas> iBelieve: http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-policy should contain the answer, but it's written in legalese
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> zethomas whats the current state of your system... try a reboot and see if the error comes up again
[15:04] <iBelieve> Seveas, thanks
[15:04] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: the tune2fs man page isn't helpful on that regard. let me see what else I can dig up.
[15:06] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, current state: the system seems to work ok, except no sound and wifi; I will reboot now and see
[15:06] <bignono1> hi, anyone knows the cmd to run webian shell ? please
[15:10] <tflgen2> can anyone help me understand why openssh server doesn't seem to be listening on a particular network adapter?
[15:10] <tflgen2> netstat -an|grep 22 gives me <IP_ADDRESS>:22 listening
[15:11] <FiremanEd> bignono1: Try #webian
[15:11] <bignono1> dead
[15:12] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: apparently creating a file on the root directory ( /forcefsck ) will force a fsck on the next reboot. if you simply place 'y' in that file, it will be non-interactive. if one makes that file immutable ( chattr +i ), then that file will persist over reboots, and should accomplish what you're looking for.
[15:12] <bignono1> i asked in #firefox , no reply
[15:12] <bignono1> #firefox=#mozilla
[15:12] <JoeyJoeJo> bwayne: Cool, thanks for the advice
[15:12] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: but a larger question is, why on earth are you fsck'ing every boot?
[15:13] <JoeyJoeJo> bwayne: /dev/sda is a CF card on an embedded device
[15:13] <Oins> My cron.daily does not run. The crontab contains the following entries: http://pastebin.com/kCsgxwtv but if i run "test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )" manually, no script is executed... (Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS Server)
[15:13] <JoeyJoeJo> If the device gets unplugged and not shut down, it sometimes fucks the filesystem
[15:13] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, all seems to boot normal now; except I get a message (in kern.log): microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd_fam16h.bin
[15:13] <bwayne> JoeyJoeJo: gotcha. hope that helps. the internetz are sparse on that issue, somewhat. it seems to be an uncommon request.
[15:14] <JoeyJoeJo> thanks for your help
[15:14] <bwayne> np
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: run fsck on /dev/sda2   ...    i would personnaly attempt a clean reinstall and see if the issues arise again. could be a dodgy ssd
[15:15] <FiremanEd> bignono1: That project appears dead, by what I looked up online.
[15:16] <Oins> it seems, that cron.daily last times was fired on Oct, 13
[15:16] <bignono1> thanks any way FiremanEd
[15:17] <bignono1> its a nice browser that run with no x
[15:17] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, ok, will try that now. Any way to know for sure it is the disk? if so, I'll take it back to the store
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> if you get more errors pointing when you run fsck then it would most likely point towards that
[15:20] <compdoc> anyone got a working remote desktop server working for 13.10?
[15:20] <Xspeed> hey everyone
[15:20] <reisio> heyo
[15:21] <Xspeed> can anyone help me with random rebooting of my ubuntu server? tnx anyway
[15:21] <MegaQuaggan> So, I rebooted my system and now I don't get any sound. My volume slider in volume control is greyed out, but all settings are correct. I ran killall pulseaudio and that didn't help. Can anyone help?
[15:22] <alazyworkaholic> I just managed to hose my 13.04 installation upgrading to 13.10. I had split / onto a btrfs ssd, and /home onto 2 raid 0 disks with ext4. Upgrade failed to complete because ubuntu cannot properly tell if there´s enough space on a btrfs filesystem. Now I have a liveUSB to reinstall / on the ssd, but while doing that, how can I recover the mdadm raid 0 /home?
[15:22] <ChogyDan> MegaQuaggan: ubuntu?
[15:22] <MegaQuaggan> Yes, 13.10
[15:23] <MegaQuaggan> checked alsamixer and volume is on, sound card device is set properly
[15:24] <somsip> !details | Xspeed
[15:24] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: You can start the array with mdadm --assemble
[15:24] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Then mount it wherever you want
[15:25] <bignono1> try a reboot MegaQuaggan
[15:25] <raskovitch> il ya pas des filles ici ?
[15:25] <MegaQuaggan> I have tried multiple reboots, problem still occurs.
[15:26] <costin_> hi ppl
[15:27] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Thanks. Like this? Install mdadm into the liveUSB environment, go into a terminal, and type sudo mdadm --assemble?
[15:27] <Xspeed> somsip, I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04.3 webserver and it's rebooting randomly (don't know why). Tell me what u need exactly (some log, etc) and I give it. thank you
[15:27] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: sounds good yes
[15:27] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: You need to specify which devices you are assembling but just lookup the manpage to get more details
[15:27] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Should be straightforward enough
[15:28] <somsip> Xspeed: webserver? First guess would be OOM (out of memory) errors in apache. Check /var/log/syslog
[15:28] <tflgen2> iptables may be the culprit as to why ssh isn't getting through, though I've added what I believe to be rules that work correctly for what I'm trying to do.
[15:29] <FiremanEd> !fr | raskovitch
[15:29] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I rebooted into an usb, and now suddenly I get a GPF... http://imgur.com/vi1dscD
[15:29] <ZeThomas> before I even touched /dev/sda ...
[15:31] <x-yuri> hi, I recently updated ubuntu from raring to saucy and I now can't login to GNOME
[15:31] <MegaQuaggan> Update on no sound issue: ran the following commands: sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-base pulseaudio && sudo apt-get install alsa-base pulseaudio && sudo alsa force-reload
[15:32] <MegaQuaggan> that didn't work. got this output: http://pastebin.com/cdrB9uEN
[15:32] <jolly_> sersa
[15:32] <jolly_> sera*
[15:32] <x-yuri> here're more details:
[15:33] <x-yuri> http://askubuntu.com/questions/360725/cant-log-in-to-gnome-after-upgrade-raring-saucy
[15:34] <ChogyDan> x-yuri: why not file a bug report?
[15:34] <FluffyKitty1000> Hey, im having some troubles with brightness on 13.10 ubuntu. (laptop) i mean, i can now use Fn keys and they're working (im glad for that) but they're jumping through brightneses i'd like to use
[15:35] <FluffyKitty1000> mayby there is some file i could edit and just change the 'pitch'
[15:36] <MegaQuaggan> could anyone help me with my sound problems? No fixes I've tried are working.
[15:37] <Xspeed> somsip, there is no 'out of memory' records in logs
[15:37] <x-yuri> ChogyDan: probably you're right
[15:37] <Xspeed> somsip, or 'out_of_memory'
[15:38] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Took a look at the man file, but could you verify?          sudo mdadm -A /dev/md/ddf1 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdh6         I understand that will create a raid 0 array device called ddf1 (I don´t remember the previous name, does it matter?) from the logical partitions /dev/sda5 and /dev/sdh6
[15:38] <matthews_> hello
[15:38] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, fsck reports no errors on /dev/sda2 though...
[15:38] <matthews_> I just upgraded to 13.10
[15:38] <matthews_> and I seem to be having issues with transparency or something
[15:38] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Strange array device, use "/dev/md0" or somethingh
[15:38] <matthews_> like notification windows show as flat black boxes with no text
[15:39] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Apart from that it's all good, provided the RAID was indeed created on sda5 and sdh6
[15:39] <matthews_> the top bar of all windows show as flat black
[15:39] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Ok, ddf1 is just the example they had in the man file.
[15:39] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: In any case "--assemble" is non destructuve
[15:39] <matthews_> no close or maximize icons
[15:39] <CatKiller> *destruictive
[15:39] <somsip> Xspeed: just to press the point, which logs did you check and how did you search for those terms?
[15:39] <matthews_> just flat black
[15:39] <CatKiller> *destructive
[15:40] <Xspeed> somsip, I used logwatch (to see report) and grep <string> /var/log/syslog (and syslog.1)
[15:40] <jp_hranice> Hallo here. I am unpleasured by stabylity of new verzion 13.10. What is wrong ? Is posible I got old PC ( http://phillw.net/hardware/XBcWezsW )?
[15:41] <FluffyKitty1000> is there a way of modifying how much brightness changes when im using Fn keys ?
[15:41] <somsip> Xspeed: grep is case sensitive. The OOM error is like this: July 12 13:11:19 localhost kernel: [ 8267.512850] Out of memory: kill process 7986 (apache) score 15147 or a child
[15:42] <FluffyKitty1000> normally i have 7 options to choose, and by using Fn shortc. there are only 4 degrees
[15:42] <FluffyKitty1000> somehow it bypases the middle ones
[15:42] <somsip> Xspeed: so grep -i would be better (unless you did use that before)
[15:42] <Xspeed> somsip, I did - no results
[15:42] <Eit8> anytime some application tries to get contats or events from my google account the keyring popup comes on top asking for the password and saying my password is wrong (it is not) anybody else having this issue ?
[15:42] <somsip> Xspeed: k - just going for the easy hit first
[15:43] <racho> anyone getting an error during boot with radeon.dpm=1 complaining about *restricted_levels*? the stats in /drm/card0 say it is using dpm but still i feel it quite hot..RV710 with latest kernel from the repos?
[15:44] <Xspeed> somsip, now did 'service apache2 stop' and now i'm watching uptime (by top)
[15:44] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Thank you! That did the trick.
[15:44] <bluechaos> hitsujiTMO,
[15:44] <bluechaos> are u there my friend ?
[15:44] <somsip> Xspeed: how often is it rebooting?
[15:44] <jpedroza2k> Where might I go to file a bug report for 13.10. I found a bug with the intel gfx driver in the latest kernel.
[15:44] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Glad it helped!
[15:45] <Xspeed> somsip, also checked memory by memtester
[15:46] <Xspeed> somsip, http://pastebin.com/i3kuKV2H
[15:48] <gdos> where do i find the files/scripts that are displayed in the desktop selector on the login menu?
[15:48] <somsip> Xspeed: check auth.log for other logins? check apache access log for unexpected activity?
[15:48] <TJ-> Anyone else noticed 13.10 installing grub-common's "/usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib" as a real file rather than a symlink to "/usr/share/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib" ?
[15:48] <ZeThomas> hello, can anybody help me get my wifi and sound working?
[15:50] <chakatns> anyone tried to change back to ubuntu touch to android?
[15:50] <somsip> !touch | chakatns
[15:50] <chakatns> from ubuntu that is
[15:53] <gdos> ZeThomas: just upgraded to 13.10 myself and have same issue.
[15:53] <NimeshNeema> hitsujiTMO: hello
[15:54] <NimeshNeema> ZeThomas: laptop / desktop ?
[15:54] <alazyworkaholic> CatKiller: Just thought of something - my liveUSB has mdadm, but when I restart the computer the install won`t have it because it is not part of the std install & I will be without a /home partition, right? Do you know how I can add mdadm to the list of packages installed at install time?
[15:54] <ZeThomas> NimeshNeema, laptop
[15:55] <NimeshNeema> ZeThomas: see if this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[15:55] <NimeshNeema> i use a 2008 dell inspiron 1525 with broadcom wireless chip and it helped with wifi
[15:56] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Probably, this was just to help you recover data. To do so you'll have to add the RAID to fstab
[15:56] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: On your new system,
[15:57] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Install "mdadm", hopefully it will add it to your initramdisk (if it's not already there)
[15:57] <ZeThomas> NimeshNeema, lspci gives me: "Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device b723"
[15:57] <CatKiller> fstab should do the rest
[15:58] <Xspeed> somsip, logs looks good. I ran badblocks..
[15:58] <NimeshNeema> ZeThomas: no idea in that case
[15:58] <somsip> Xspeed: too late at night for me now. Best of luck, but I'm done.
[15:58] <Xspeed> somsip, good luck, tnx!
[15:59] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Something like "/dev/md0 /home ext3 noatime,rw 0 0" that should work
[15:59] <CatKiller> alazyworkaholic: Look up http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-creating-software-raid-one-arrays/
[16:01] <darkangel_> Hey is it safe to Upgrade 12.04 --> 12.10?
[16:03] <Rory> darkangel_: Yes
[16:03] <Rory> !upgrade | darkangel_
[16:03] <darkangel_> ok thx
[16:04] <fedeisas> hi guys! How can I make /var/www writable and readable for two users (www-data and my deploy user).
[16:05] <ndee> anyone  knows a cli-tool which is like midnight commander but has more than 2 file panes?
[16:05] <Psycho_pr> How do I control the output mode from my laptop (PAL/NTSC) external monitor port?
[16:05] <Nothing_Much> Question, how long does it take for Ubuntu One to accept my payment?
[16:06] <somsip> fedeisas: add your deploy user to www-data group. /var/www whould already be 770 root:www-data
[16:06] <somsip> *should
[16:10] <fedeisas> somsip that doens't work :-(, deploy can't enter the directory
[16:10] <somsip> fedeisas: has to logout and back in again after being added to a group
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> ndee: you can use screen to make panels
[16:11] <splig>  /join #symfony
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> splig: watch the leading space
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Nothing_Much: try asking in #ubuntuone
[16:11] <fedeisas> somsip I didn't know that! Everyday you learn something new! Thanks.
[16:12] <somsip> fedeisas: np. Might not be the ideral solution for you, but it's usually a better starting place than making /var/www permissions unsafe. YMMV
[16:12] <fedeisas> somsip and I have both users (www-data and deploy) creating files there. How can I make that those files are always r+w for both of them?
[16:12] <somsip> *ideal
[16:12] <somsip> fedeisas: sudo chmod g+s /var/www
[16:13] <gdos> where do i find the files/scripts that are displayed in the desktop selector on the login menu?
[16:13] <pmo> Hey guys.. been trying to upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 on my machine.. the update manager keeps saying 13.10 is still in BETA.. i upgraded a friends laptop from 13.04 to 13.10, didnt say BETA
[16:13] <somsip> fedeisas: though it may be better to do it on individual sub folders, eg sudo chmod g+s /var/www/project1
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> gdos: they are files in /usr/share/xsessions
[16:14] <gdos> thanks ActionParsnip
[16:14] <pmo> idea's?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> gdos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizStandalone   shows how to have compiz as a stanalone WM :)
[16:14] <fedeisas> somsip allright, I'll try that, thanks men
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> pmo: you could use the -d option on do-release-upgrade   see if it jumps to Saucy
[16:15] <pmo> i am :)
[16:15] <pmo> err wait i didnt read the line proper
[16:15] <pmo> i use -d but let me try that command
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> pmo: sudo do-release-upgrade    will take you to the next release
[16:16] <AlexKibler> Hey everybody, I'm working on a project on my ubuntu 13.04 machine, and now that everything is working exactly how I want it to, is there any way I can make a virtualbox image of my system to give to my project partners so we all start from the same point?
[16:16] <pmo> seems like this is working ActionParsnip, thanks :) just havent used ubuntu in a very long time hehe
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pmo: it's all in the upgrade notes
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | pmo
[16:17] <pmo> hehe i assumed it was the update manager hehe
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> pmo: nar, server CLI method is how I do it :)
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> pmo: mind you I always clean install
[16:17] <pmo> hehe ActionParsnip i installed a few days ago :)
[16:18] <luxgeek> Anyone know how I can diff 19 files? I'm googling but not finding any solutions yet... The files contain enabled modules from 19 different sites but my boss needs to know how many modules are common between them (our base install) to know which ones can be trimmed...anyone?
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: at least that its hopefully not a dodgy ssd then. whats output of: lspci
[16:18] <pmo> ActionParsnip: its upgrading now, thanks again :)
[16:18] <mojtaba> Hi, I have updated to 13.10 yesterday, but my laptop's pad is not functioning correctly. Does anybody know what should I do? (also I have some difficulty with ubunut tweak to delete old kernels. it just crashes.)
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> pmo: np :)
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: what make and model laptop?
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> bluechaos: yes i'm here
[16:19] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Dell Studio 1555
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: why did you not have that detail in the initial question?
[16:19] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: forgot. :-P
[16:20] <jojo__> bs
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: seems common, i'll dig more
[16:21] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6258218
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> !info gpointing-device-settings saucy
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: try using t
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> gpointing-device-settings
[16:21] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: t?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: was meant to be 'the'
[16:22] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: try using what?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: gpointing-device-settings
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: like I said...
[16:23] <PunchyPenguin> After wiping and installing saucy afresh, it doesn't detect my video card properly and prompts me to use 'low graphics mode'. But this does nothing.
[16:23] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Where is it?
[16:23] <rodger_nc> I just updated to 13.10 and within a few seconds of logging in the screen goes nuts - I can see noting - looks like snow - I am now booted from another disk on the same system using 12.04 - What file on the other disk do I need to edit to go to a generic driver so I can log into that system and reinstall the drivers?
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: whats output of lspci -k
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: may help too http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/LLXmLdAJykmqsFnDrDhU
[16:24] <Sander^lap> How do I disable the current kernel from grub? As I have the stock kernel installed which causes problems.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: software centre
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> rodger_nc: what video chip do you use?
[16:25] <rodger_nc> AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250u Processor × 2
[16:25] <rodger_nc> with a radeon
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rodger_nc: which radeon?
[16:25] <rodger_nc> one second
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rodger_nc: your CPU is of no interest in this issue
[16:25] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6258253
[16:26] <Mendigaum> I just updated my ubuntu to 13.10, and my apache virtual hosts stoped working. Also when i try to enable them with a2ensite it says there is no website for this name. Is there another channel with apache specific support?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Mendigaum: #apache maybe
[16:26] <BooeyOH> If I wanted to parse every command that is run with "sudo" to see if it contains certain keywords, and if so, print out a warning with a confirmation, is that possible, if so, can someone point me to how to do that?
[16:26] <sophie_> Sorry this isn't the right place for this question but, does an i7 have any extra raw power over an i5 or is it just hyperthreading which makes it better for certain things?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> sophie_: tr in ##hardware
[16:27] <sophie_> thanks
[16:28] <Mendigaum> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: is the audio controls greyed out?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> rodger_nc: sudo lshw -C display       will show you
[16:29] <darkangel_> do you have to Enable "Third Party" to upgrade from 12.04 to --> 12.10 or could you skip it?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> darkangel_: I would
[16:29] <darkangel_> how you Enable it?
[16:29] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, I just got the audio fixed, installing pulse did the trick, it is the wifi that is giving the most headache..
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> darkangel_: keep to the main repos for upgrades, enable 3rd party stuff after
[16:30] <PunchyPenguin> Saucy complains it cannot configure my video card. I looked at the xorg log file but cannot copy it as the machine doesn't mount any USB devices. Running in low graphics mode does nothing.
[16:30] <luxgeek> Or IS there even a way to diff more than three files?
[16:30] <darkangel_> ok
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> luxgeek: you can use a bash loop,
[16:31] <luxgeek> ActionParsnip: Not following?
[16:31] <rodger_nc> ActionParsnip: Sorry it is a C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430]
[16:31] <darkangel_> whats a Terminal Command to enable it?
[16:31] <CatKiller> luxgeek: How about vimdiff
[16:32] <luxgeek> CatKiller: Interesting...
[16:32] <CatKiller> luxgeek: Sorry I had not realized it was *more* than 3
[16:32] <CatKiller> luxgeek: Vimdiff does 3
[16:32] <CatKiller> sorry
[16:32] <CatKiller> it does more!
[16:32] <luxgeek> CatKiller: Ok...
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> ZeThomas: it may nnot be supprted currently https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1240940
[16:33] <CatKiller> luxgeek: It does 4
[16:34] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, so what are my options?
[16:34] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Thank you very much. The problem of the touch pad is now solved.
[16:34] <Korrosion> Im having some issues installign a second nic on 12.04
[16:35] <Korrosion> "Failed to bring up eth1."
[16:35] <mojtaba> I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it is crashing. I am using dell studio 1555 ubuntu 13.10.
[16:35] <Mendigaum> Hey, i've just updated to ubuntu 13.10 and my apache envvars are not configured, why? http://apaste.info/mNDd
[16:35] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> wait for support, buy a usb wifi dongle or replace the internal wifi card with a supported on (you can find em on ebay usuall pretty cheap)
[16:36] <Nothing_Much> Question, how long does it take for Ubuntu One to accept my payment?
[16:37] <Nothing_Much> #ubuntuone is not very active, so I'm hoping for an answer
[16:37] <Mendigaum> Hey, i've just updated to ubuntu 13.10 and my apache envvars are not configured, why? http://apaste.info/mNDd
[16:38] <luxgeek> So there doesn't seem to be a way of diff'ing 19 files then? :(
[16:38] <andry> Mendigaum, you defined them in /etc/apache2/envvars?
[16:39] <Mendigaum> andry, no. But shouldnt it be defined by default? my apache2 was working b4 the upgrade to 13.10
[16:40] <rodger_nc> I just updated to 13.10 and within a few seconds of logging in the screen goes nuts - I can see nothing - looks like snow - I am now booted from another disk on the same system using 12.04 - What file on the 13.10 disk do I need to edit to go to a generic driver so I can log into that system and reinstall the drivers?  I have a C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430]
[16:40] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[16:41] <andry> maybe they changed a lot in the apache2 package, i just remember using this config file latly
[16:41] <andry> lately
[16:41] <ZeThomas> hitsujiTMO, ok, i will use usb tethering of my phone for now. thanks for your help!
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: unfortunately apache2 has a completely new configuration in 13.10 with the upgrade from 2.2 to 2.4 ... this seems to effect most users during the upgrade
[16:44] <andry> oh ok, 2.4 now
[16:44] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, i understand that. But am i supposed to guess the variable values? is there any example?
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: your best resolve the issue is to install backup your current /etc/apache2 dir and try a dpkg-reconfigure
[16:45] <Moccodo|2> Ubuntu 13.10, gdm: In the login-window I can choose which DE to run (KDE, Ubuntu). But there are also entries like KDE/Openbox Lubuntu/OpenBox or other stuff. How can I remove these entries?
[16:46] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[16:46] <rufsketch1> I have a kernel module called cx23885 that is automatically loaded on startup
[16:47] <rufsketch1> I want to make it so that this kernel model gets loaded as usual, but gets loaded with a different option
[16:47] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, ppl from #httpd told me its #ubuntu problems. They already helped me and now i know virtual hosts now needs a .conf extension. But i cant guess those missing variable values.
[16:47] <rufsketch1> specifically, I want to load it as cx23885 card=3
[16:47] <rufsketch1> /etc/modules seems to not care what I tell it.
[16:47] <justaguy> So i just updated my ubuntu 13.04 system to 13.10 , how could i check if the installation went good and I didn't ruined something
[16:48] <rufsketch1> justaguy, what kind of things are you worried you might have ruined?
[16:48] <rodger_nc> xorg.conf.d does not appear to be used any longer so how does 13.10 know which video driver to use?
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: i'll see if i can pull the default envars config for you
[16:48] <justaguy> rufsketch1: idk, no idea what could have went wrong :p
[16:48] <ChogyDan> rodger_nc: try uninstalling the nvidia driver package
[16:48] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[16:49] <andry> xorg.conf.d is still used
[16:49] <andry> in /usr/share/X11
[16:49] <justaguy> Linux justaguy-Celeron 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:49] <rufsketch1> justaguy, you could always just use it until you find something screwed up?
[16:49] <rodger_nc> I can not install it bcause I can not get into the system - I need to edit a file and change the config to use a generic driver first
[16:49] <justaguy> is that right for ubuntu 13.04?
[16:49] <andry> kernel 3.11 is default in 13.10
[16:49] <andry> linux for workstations :P
[16:50] <vooze> Is there a good distro based on ubuntu that uses openbox / tint2?
[16:50] <andry> vooze, http://distrowatch.com/search.php
[16:50] <andry> :)
[16:51] <Ari-Yang> what's the keyboard shortcut to restart X server on ubuntu 12.04?
[16:51] <andry> vooze, i would install via minimal iso and then just install openbox
[16:51] <rodger_nc> ChogyDan: I can not uninstall it because I can not get into the system - I need to edit a file and change the config to use a generic driver first
[16:52] <ChogyDan> rodger_nc: use ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a terminal
[16:52] <LuxuryMode> I've installed a program in #HOME/bin but when I run (a java program) it crashes with "java.io.IOException: No such file or directory" bc it doesn't have permissions…it works if i use sudo {app_name} but I shouldn't have to do that, right?
[16:52] <boddhii> hei
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: paste.ubuntu.com/6258418
[16:52] <LuxuryMode> * $HOME
[16:52] <andry> Ari-Yang, either it is bound to ctrl+alt+backspace, or just go to tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) and type "sudo service lightdm restart"
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: thats for /etc/apache2/envvars
[16:53] <ChogyDan> LuxuryMode: does that mean you are trying to write to a file?
[16:53] <rodger_nc> ChogyDan: the video is all snow on 13.10 within a minute of booting up - can not do anything in the system - can't see -  I am on the same machine booted from 12.04 - I need to edit a file on the 13.10 disk to change the video driver
[16:53] <boddhii> how to edit quicklist in 12.04?
[16:54] <andry> rodger_nc, you can create a file named 20-video.conf in the conf.d and write a section for "device"
[16:54] <boddhii> my home quicklist is become error
[16:54] <boddhii> http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/163/0qjg.png
[16:54] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, i guess..not sure what the program has to do to run, but yes presumably...
[16:54] <vooze> andry: yeah thinking about that also, but just wanted to see some options, but I did not know you could search like that on distrowatch, thanks :)
[16:54] <andry> vooze, sorry i dont have a recommendation :/ :)
[16:55] <rodger_nc> andry - can I copy a file to 20-video.conf because I would have no idea how to write the "device" section
[16:55] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, the documentation for the program says "extract the archive to a location where you have both read and write access (...) Running play writes some files to directories within the archive, so don’t install to /opt, /usr/local or anywhere else you’d need special permission to write to." … which is why i made a point of putting it in $HOME/bin
[16:55] <andry> rodger_nc, like this, quick and dirty :D http://pastebin.com/6xyU3rZe
[16:56] <ChogyDan> LuxuryMode: are the permissions for ~/bin correct?
[16:56] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6258433/
[16:56] <andry> (this goes to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[16:57] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, i created that directory so shouldn't it be rw by default?
[16:57] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, the weird thing is that the variables are defined. But someway it looks like apache2 is not able to read them. That happens when i try to run "sudo apache2 --version"
[16:57] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, hmm its drwxr-xr-x 3 root    root    4.0K Oct 18 16:50 bin
[16:58] <ChogyDan> LuxuryMode: well, you obviously did not create it as your user, it is owned by root
[16:58] <vooze> andry: seems I need to install from minimal, all the openbox OS's are only 32bit it seems :/
[16:58] <rufsketch1> does anyone know anything about kernel modules?
[16:58] <Nothing_Much> Question, how long does it take for Ubuntu One to accept my payment?
[16:59] <andry> yea i search one, too .. i also dont know any of these distros
[16:59] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, ah i see. the problem is that this is a virtual box and this mkdir was in a script where the provisioner runs e/t in it as root
[16:59] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, I know a bit, what are you trying to do?
[16:59] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, can i specifically run a command NOT as root?
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: yes i've seen the same issue with other people after the upgrade
[16:59] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, or should i just change the permissions afterwards?
[16:59] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, I have a kernel module that loads on startup. I need it to keep doing that, but I need it to do that with a different option
[16:59] <rodger_nc> andry:  got it thanks - now which directory is the subdirectory config.d located?
[17:00] <andry> place the conf in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[17:00] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, currently, it's doing the equivalent of modprobe cx23885 I think
[17:00] <ChogyDan> LuxuryMode: I dunno.  You can just chown it back
[17:00] <Nothing_Much> Anyone?
[17:00] <andry> vesa should be "failsafe"
[17:00] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, and I need it to do the equivalent of modprobe cx23885 card=3
[17:00] <LuxuryMode> ChogyDan, gotcha
[17:00] <jpedroza2k> what does lsmod return rufsketch1 ?
[17:01] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, in which scenario?
[17:01] <lmat> I'm trying to let a user sftp from a server. Currently it's not working (Connection closed).
[17:01] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, before I
[17:01] <lmat> I see from the client and server logs that authentication is successful
[17:01] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, before I manually change it with modprobe?
[17:01] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[17:01] <lmat> And I see from server logs that the client is requesting the sftp subsystem, and it's pretty soon after that that the connection closes.
[17:01] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, sorry, is there a file in /etc/modprobe.d that loads the module?
[17:02] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, not that i can see
[17:02] <lmat> Do I have to install vsftpd in order to make this work ? Or will the simple ol sshd do the trick ?
[17:03] <michael> k
[17:03] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, that is to say, I think it may be in the kernel?
[17:03] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, like compiled in, rather than loaded dynamically?
[17:04] <lmat> Looks like openSSH claims to make all this work with just sshd. That's good news...now what do I need to set up to make sure my user (steve) can sftp ? :(
[17:04] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, I mean. I'm not *sure*. But I don't know of any other reason for it not to be in modprobe.d?
[17:04] <bean__> lmat: it should "Just Work™"
[17:04] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, granted, I don't know much about kernel modules
[17:05] <lmat> bean__: I know! Most of this stuff does.
[17:05] <bean__> lmat: what error is the user getting?
[17:06] <lmat> "Connection closed"
[17:06] <lmat> bean__: Let me show you my server logs...
[17:06] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, ls
[17:06] <jpedroza2k> sorry
[17:06] <bean__> lmat: that could mean any number of things. Is that the error that the /end user/ is getting?
[17:06] <lmat> bean__: yes
[17:07] <bean__> lmat: and what client is he using?
[17:07] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, are you asking me to ls modprobe.d?
[17:07] <jpedroza2k> no, wrong window rufsketch1 :)
[17:07] <lmat> http://sprunge.us/FRLY
[17:07] <rutger_> hello
[17:07] <lmat> bean__: ^  using sftp :) (openssh)
[17:07] <lmat> bean__: (the other user is me)
[17:08] <lmat> bean__: I'm running it right here right now.
[17:08] <rutger_> I need some help with ubuntu
[17:08] <lmat> http://sprunge.us/FRLY
[17:08] <lmat> doh
[17:08] <rutger_> everytime I type sl a train appears but I would like to see my files and folders
[17:08] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, ah
[17:08] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, if there is no file in /etc/modprobe.d that means the module was compiled into the kernel.
[17:08] <bean__> lmat: I see it :) It looks like it's working to me? Is he just not able to upload at all?
[17:08] <lmat> bean__: Using this command : sftp -v -P $(<bukavuport) steve@$(<churchip):/mnt/share/Public/hey
[17:09] <lmat> bean__: hey...glad I made those file redirects...I could have just given you the ip and port :o
[17:09] <lmat> bean__: Anyway...
[17:09] <bean__> lmat: haha, I wouldn't have had a password anyways :) Does the user have permissions to write to that path?
[17:09] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, so I would imagine you would have to rebuild the kernel with the new parameter for that module added during the configuration process.
[17:09] <rodger_nc> I am doing a search on my entire drive for the conf.d directory - it would be faster if someone could tell me where to put a display configuration
[17:09]  * bean__ was assuming that you'd be writing to their home dir.
[17:09] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, Which is way above my pay grade. :)
[17:10] <lmat> bean__: write ? He should only need read
[17:10] <bean__> lmat: OH, does he have read permissions, then?
[17:10] <lmat> bean__: write to what path ? I assume you mean the Public dir, or do you mean ~ ?
[17:10] <bean__> lmat: the public dir
[17:10] <lmat> bean__: Yeah,  Public is    xwrxwrxwrxwrx root root
[17:10] <rufsketch1> jpedroza2k, is there any way to remove a module built in to the kernel on boot time, and then reload it with a different kernel option?
[17:10] <lmat> bean__: It's really public ^_^
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: and hey is -rw-rw-r-- lawsa lawsa .
[17:11] <bean__> lmat, can you log in as that user in SSH and see if that can "cd" to that dir?
[17:11] <jpedroza2k> rufsketch1, no unload on a compiled module.
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: no, he can't ssh in.
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: passwd for his is   .....:/usr/bin/sftp
[17:11] <bean__> ah, okay.
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: (it used to be rssh)
[17:11] <occ> what is the easiest way to install a VM with ubuntu? do i need to install a VM then use an ubuntu iso... or is there a VM with the ubuntu image built in?
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: I'm willing to change it (but probably not ssh)
[17:11] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146688/why-doesnt-apache2-respect-my-envvars-file
[17:11] <lmat> bean__: Now we're gettin somewhere ?
[17:12] <andry> anyone uses infinality?
[17:12]  * lmat feels bean__ reading... ^_^
[17:12] <bean__> lmat: I think the best thing to do is to have it be /bin/bash (or w/e shell) but then use ForceCommand in your SSHd config.
[17:13] <lmat> bean__: Interesting... I'll give it as hot.
[17:13] <lmat> bean__: a shot that is.
[17:13] <bean__> lmat: this is for debian, but likely close enough: http://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze
[17:13] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[17:14] <bean__> lmat: you likely only need through step 3
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: ah, were you not using sudo service apache2   to try to manage apache2?
[17:14] <lmat> bean__: Thanks. I'll let you know if it goes haywire. Thanks again.
[17:14] <bean__> lmat: no problem
[17:14] <lmat> bean__: the url seems promising :)
[17:14] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, I was trying to output the apache version. in 2.2 i used to run apache2 --version
[17:14] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, while apache --version gives me undefined variables, apachectl -V returns everything ok
[17:15] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, but it used to work in  apache 2.2 ubuntu
[17:15] <bean__> lmat: I think the sftp path is /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[17:15] <bean__> you could try using that instead of /usr/bin/sftp or w/e
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> Mendigaum: yes it seems apache 2.4 expects environment vars to be present even if you're just checking the version
[17:16] <lmat> bean__: which sftp returns /usr/bin/sftp
[17:16] <chaotic_good> ok how do I vpn
[17:16] <lmat> bean__: oh...that's the client anyway.
[17:16] <bean__> lmat: right, yep, you want the sftp-server
[17:17] <chaotic_good> pptp windows server provides vpn
[17:17] <lmat> bean__: Are you talking about the modifications to sshd_config ? I was wondering why it says 'internal-sftp'
[17:17] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, anyway, my problem is already solved. I just sent you that so you can see what ppl might ask here.
[17:17] <Mendigaum> hitsujiTMO, thanks a lot.
[17:17] <bean__> lmat: yeah, I don't think its internal-sftp on ubuntu. Its /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[17:18] <lmat> bean__: okay :) That's what it said before.
[17:18] <bean__> yar, sorry for that
[17:18] <lmat> bean__: Well, some good news: steve can sftp (I think the only change was setting his shell to bash rather than ssh).
[17:18] <bean__> :)
[17:18] <bean__> good
[17:19] <lmat> bean__: And when I change it to rssh or sftp, no good.
[17:19] <bean__> that makes sense
[17:19] <bean__> those aren't really shells
[17:19] <bean__> they're other programs
[17:19] <lmat> bean__: oh :(
[17:20] <bean__> you could change the shell to /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[17:20] <bean__> i think
[17:20] <lmat> bean__: I'll give it a shot.
[17:21] <lmat> bean__: That worked very well :)
[17:21] <bean__> good.
[17:21] <lmat> bean__: So, now steve can't scp, right ?
[17:21] <bean__> I don't think so.
[17:21] <bean__> just sftp
[17:21] <lmat> bean__: hey !! http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/rssh.1.html
[17:21] <lmat> bean__: rssh is for scp and/or sftp
[17:22] <bean__> hmm, feel free to use that if you want
[17:22] <bean__> I never have
[17:22] <lmat> bean__: I tried, but it didn't work.  "And when I change it to rssh or sftp, no good."
[17:22] <bean__> lmat: i think rssh requires some more setup, and I've never done it
[17:23] <lmat> bean__: okay. You've been tremendous help already :)
[17:25] <srini> hi
[17:25] <srini> anyone there
[17:26] <srini> i need some help with regards to this git-svn info
[17:28] <Paddy_NI> I have two rather annoying issues with my new 13.10 installation. My keyboard layout seems to change of it's own volition to the US when I return to it after it has locked the screen. Secondly Facebook chat does not work with Empathy, I get the following message "Facebook account requires authorisation". I have searched for a solution but to no avail...
[17:30] <lmat> Paddy_NI: alt+shift changes the keyboard layout ? What layout do you want ?
[17:30] <fedeisas> hi guys! How can I make /var/www writable and readable for two users (www-data and my deploy user). I'm building an automated deploy process, and it's driving me nuts!
[17:31] <Paddy_NI> lmat, I only require one layout (English UK)
[17:32] <lmat> Paddy_NI: Oh, and it installs another one behind your back ? Incredible.
[17:32] <Paddy_NI> lmat, I removed English US from the "Text Entry" list and still it persists
[17:32] <Paddy_NI> lmat, No it still thinks its English UK
[17:32] <lmat> Paddy_NI: I'm not sure what "Text Entry" list you're talking about. When logged in, I see a little picture of a keyboard on the top panel (where the time is); do you see that ?
[17:32] <gimmic> is there a way to check version similar to rhel flavors with cat?
[17:32] <Paddy_NI> Although it changes keys to what normally would be english us
[17:32] <lmat> Paddy_NI: So it's lying. Gotcha.
[17:33] <gimmic> like cat /etc/redhat-release. I'm aware of lsb_release -a
[17:33] <OerHeks> fedeisas, add your user to www-data too
[17:33] <mojtaba> I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it is crashing. I am using dell studio 1555 ubuntu 13.10. Does anybody know what should I do?
[17:33] <Paddy_NI> lmat, I don't use that indicator I disabled it. Text Entry can be found in system settings
[17:33] <fedeisas> OerHeks I did, but it doesn't works..
[17:33] <OerHeks> gimmic, cat /etc/issue
[17:33] <A_Paternoster> Hallo Ubuntu World :) I've a question :)
[17:33] <A_Paternoster> about MIR
[17:34] <mojtaba> I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it is crashing. I am using dell studio 1555 ubuntu 13.10. Does anybody know what should I do?
[17:34] <gimmic> Thank you, OerHeks
[17:34] <lmat> Paddy_NI: I don't have it. I'm on 12.04...perhaps that's the difference. I go to system settings -> keyboard layout -> Language tab
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> fedeisas: you need to relog after you add yourself to www-data group
[17:34] <Paddy_NI> lmat, ah :-)
[17:34] <rosco_y> I just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10.  Is there a list of post-upgrade tasks that could be done?
[17:34] <OerHeks> hitsujiTMO +1
[17:35] <A_Paternoster> I would like to install MIR but I don't know if it's it a good idea . . . Anyone can help me ?
[17:35] <rosco_y> How can I look at the upgrade log?
[17:35] <einjelos> ciao la?
[17:35] <fedeisas> hitsujiTMO OerHeks deploy      x  1002   1002 /home/deploy        /bin/bash          deploy www-data
[17:35] <einjelos> anybody know about difference between using lxde and using openbox?
[17:35] <fedeisas> it belongs to both groups
[17:35] <davividal> hi. I'm using LDAP on my network, among other things, it manages my sudoers files. On my (personal) workstation I want to use LDAP and files for sudoers. That's what I've put on my /etc/nsswitch.conf: sudoers: ldap files , and here is my /etc/sudoers.d/redmine_gitolite: redmine ALL=(git) NOPASSWD:ALL
[17:36] <davividal> but whenever I try to sudo -u git -i ls it keeps asking my password. How can I debug what's going on?
[17:36] <rosco_y> What is MIR?
[17:36] <einjelos> i installed lxde on my crunchbang and really i want to switch back to just using the openbox environ
[17:36] <rosco_y> A_Paternoster: what is MIR?
[17:36] <lmat> rosco_y: It is salvation for Ubuntu...
[17:36] <chaotic_good> do I have to basically install GNOME in order to get VPN going to a microsoft pptp vpn?
[17:36] <rosco_y> lmat: 13.10?
[17:36] <lmat> rosco_y: Any version I guess. It's an X replacement. Google will help you from there :)
[17:36] <lmat> rosco_y: Or perhaps it's a wayland replacement ... gwa ha ha ha
[17:37] <einjelos> i figured #! is related to ubuntu, and ubuntu people are friendlier than in the crunchbang rooms
[17:37] <einjelos> anybody know how to switch back?
[17:37] <A_Paternoster> rosco_y,  it is a graphic server for Ubuntu . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software)
[17:37] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: What does "[Gear Icon] > System Settings... > Region & Language > System" show as the system and user settings?
[17:37] <rosco_y> A_Paternoster, lmat--thank you, I was just wondering
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: no
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: what de are you using?
[17:38] <rosco_y> I just upgraded to 13.10, how can I look at the upgrade log?
[17:39] <lmat> bean__: my freaking goodness
[17:39] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, there is no "Region and Language" however there is a "Language Support" which is set to English UK
[17:39] <lmat> bean__: I just removed "chrootpath = /home/steve" from /etc/rssh.conf. Freaking crap!
[17:39] <m3kk> Is there anyone else got crash when trying to view "propitary drivers" in settings after update?
[17:40] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: You said that was 13.10, is that correct?
[17:40] <m3kk> /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[17:40] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Spot on
[17:40] <docdriza> I am having a weird networking issue
[17:40] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: "Region & Language" should be 2 icons further on, after "Language Support"
[17:41] <docdriza> I recently upgraded a Virtual Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04. for some reason i am now not able to ping my gateway or go out to the internet
[17:41] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: Between "Online Accounts" and "Security and Privacy"
[17:41] <docdriza> I have looked through a number of forums, and tried a number of things but I still cant get this thing wto work.
[17:41] <docdriza> is there anyone that can help me out?
[17:42] <TJ-> docdriza: Is it a server or desktop install? Is it using NetworkManager or manual editing of "/etc/network/interfaces" ?
[17:42] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, http://imgbin.org/images/15394.png
[17:42] <docdriza> it is a desktop install
[17:42] <mojtaba>  am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it is crashing. I am using dell studio 1555 ubuntu 13.10. Does anybody know what should I do?
[17:43] <chaotic_good> I am on iceWM
[17:43] <docdriza> Oh i have the /etc/network/interfaces manually configured
[17:43] <chaotic_good> but need to use work vpn
[17:43] <chaotic_good> microsoft pptp
[17:43] <apb> things are moving slow on my 12.04 machine... someone looking into an application problem for me tells me that dbus is the culprit "some dbus calls are slow, others just timeout".
[17:43] <apb> Any  useful suggestions?
[17:43] <docdriza> TJ-: i have the /etc/network/interfaces manually configured and it is a desktop install
[17:44] <chaotic_good> recode the app in common lisp
[17:44] <apb> this is a system problem, not an application problem
[17:45] <notyard404> docdriza: what have you done so far?
[17:46] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: Comparing your screenshot to a fresh 13.10 install here, they are different and yours is missing "Region & Language" but has "Text Entry" which is a sub-menu of "Region & Language" here. Was that system upgraded from 13.04?
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: have a look at pptp-linux
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Fresh install
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> And now my layout is back to the way it should be
[17:46] <trism> TJ-: are you using gnome-shell? I see the Region & Language with: XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME gnome-control-center; but not in unity
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> This will not last however
[17:47] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, That is strange.. I verified the media too
[17:47] <mojtaba> Does anybody know why ubuntu tweak is carshing? (after upgrading to 13.10)
[17:47] <TJ-> docdriza: Can you pastebin the results of "echo $(ifconfig && ip route ls && cat /etc/network/interfaces)" ?
[17:47] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, I wonder what the package name is; perhaps I can install it
[17:47] <mojtaba> hello?
[17:48] <TJ-> trism: No, it's a regular 13.10 desktop install
[17:48] <docdriza> TJ-: standby
[17:48] <mojtaba> Is there any other alternative to ubuntu tweak janitor?
[17:48] <JoelNYdahl> Hello, do anyone have time to help me? i get errno 30 while installing ubuntu
[17:49] <trism> TJ-: strange, mine is an upgrade so it could be wonky but I see exactly the same thing Paddy_NI sees in his screenshot
[17:49] <Paddy_NI> Heh.. any keyboard issues trism ? or are you already using the US layout
[17:49] <steve|m> has anybody noticed that the netboot-image doesn't work with predictable interface names? my nic is detected as p5p1 and the automatic network configuration won't work, no connectivity at all
[17:50] <JoelNYdahl> Hello, do anyone have time to help me? i get errno 30 while installing ubuntu
[17:51] <trism> Paddy_NI: nope no keyboard issues here, but yes I'm already using the us layout anyway
[17:51] <TJ-> trism: Paddy_NI: That was why I asked, since it sounds almost like the 13.04 "Keyboard Layout" applet - the icon is identical to the "Text Entry" icon on 13.10
[17:51] <docdriza> TJ-:  no, becasue I am getting to this VM through Microsofts Virtaual Machine Manager Console, and I am not able to copy and paste the text
[17:51] <Paddy_NI> Ah then my issue is that it wont remain on the UK layout
[17:51] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: Have you deleted the US layout?
[17:51] <Paddy_NI> If I was to lubricate the usb port with Crème fraîche would that perhaps get things moving?
[17:52] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Yes I have
[17:52] <docdriza> TJ-: I would only be able to take a screenshot
[17:52] <TJ-> docdriza: you could redirect the output to a file, then upload that to pastebin
[17:53] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: Then something is *very* weird then!
[17:53] <docdriza> because i cannot ssh to the box, I cant pull the file either.
[17:53] <docdriza> TJ-: because i cannot ssh to the box, I cant pull the file either.
[17:53] <TJ-> docdriza: USB key? or is it remote?
[17:53] <Paddy_NI> Yes perhaps I did not initially use ENOUGH Crème fraîche!
[17:53] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: :P ... unfortunately I have to go drive now so I can't help you further
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> Paddy_NI: one thing to try: add the US kb layout, then remove it again
[17:54] <lmat> I'm using rssh for a shell. in rssh.conf, I have allowscp, allowsftp and  user=steve:777:111111:/mnt/share. steve is running the following: sftp -v -P $(<bukavuport) steve@$(<churchip):/Public/hey   (/Public/hey is a file within /mnt/share). It does not succeed: http://sprunge.us/ZTaS
[17:54] <docdriza> TJ-: it is a VM, and I have no idea where the host is located.
[17:54] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Yeah I was thinking that very thing
[17:54] <docdriza> TJ-: sorry to make this difficult on you
[17:54] <TJ-> docdriza: OK :(
[17:54] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, no worries mate thanks for your time :-)
[17:54] <lmat> Oh yeah, passwd line for this guy is  steve:x:1006:1006:steve,home,,,I'm steve.:/home/steve:/usr/bin/rssh
[17:55] <iceroot> is there a way to use something like a "trim-function" on all text-contents i am putting in my buffer (ctrl +v) so that all whitespaces at the start and end will be removed?
[17:55] <lmat> I can't figure out what I'm missing :(
[17:55] <trism> Paddy_NI: how about bug 1240198
[17:55] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: The reason I asked about the "System" tab was it shows the system and user preferences, and it made me wonder if 'system' is defaulting to US and when the user session unlocks it doesn't reapply the UK settings
[17:55] <prototrout> Is there a way, when installing a related group of packages, to "name" the group? (So I can later rempve them all at once without needing to remember the whole list)?
[17:55] <lmat> I guess I should post this in stack exchange...
[17:56] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, Yeah I totally get where your coming from.. sadly the computer is not getting where I am coming from :-P
[17:56] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[17:56] <iceroot> dannymichel: no
[17:56] <iceroot> dannymichel: because they may use different versions and then the conf-files dont match to the used version
[17:56] <TJ-> trism: Paddy_NI: Yes, that bug was affecting me whilst I was chroot-ing a 13.10 system earlier, I got real mad with the locale indicating US when everything was working with GB, but changes weren't taking
[17:56] <TJ-> Paddy_NI: good luck with that :)
[17:57] <Paddy_NI> TJ-, I'm sure Ill get it
[17:57] <docdriza> TJ-: I love greenshot http://i.imgur.com/WYdqcDQ.png
[17:59] <ddssc_> what's the easiest way to install windows from ubuntu machine? I want to have dual boot but I hear windows will overwrite grub.
[17:59] <rodger_nc> I am running 13.10 and need to install the Nvidia drivers from Nvidia.  Any directions on how to do this?  I have a GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[18:00] <rodger_nc> I am currently up and running but on a vesa default
[18:00] <rodger_nc> when I updated to 13.10 I got a snow screen
[18:01] <rodger_nc> couldn't do anything
[18:01] <ddssc_> is this good advice for installing windows after ubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/6317/how-can-i-install-windows-7-after-ive-installed-ubuntu/158319#158319
[18:02] <bean__> ddssc_: that would likely work.
[18:02] <bcurtiswx> anyone figure out how to completely quit empathy. I seem to use the menu to quit empathy, but i still receive messages
[18:02] <bean__> boot-repair can be a bit magical.
[18:02] <docdriza> is there anyone that can help me out?
[18:02] <bcurtiswx> is it directly tied to my status in the messaging menu ?
[18:02] <bcurtiswx> do i need to be "offline" ?
[18:03] <docdriza> I am having a weird networking issue
[18:04] <bean__> !ask | docdriza
[18:05] <bcurtiswx> yup, for future referebce, to completely quit empathy, you need to set your status to offline in the messaging menu
[18:05] <ddssc_> what's the best rapair utility for ubuntu? In case the system gets fubar'd and you got no proper backup?
[18:06] <bean__> ddssc_: the best repair tool is to have backups :)
[18:06] <ddssc_> bean__: "and you got no proper backup?"
[18:07] <docdriza> I recently upgraded a Virtual Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04. for some reason i am now not able to ping my gateway or go out to the internet i have the /etc/network/interfaces manually configured and it is a desktop install here is a result of a command if you need some kind of reference http://i.imgur.com/WYdqcDQ.png
[18:07] <ddssc_> for example I had ubuntu and I only got sw backup, ie. list of installed software and configs( I imagine) . now it died for no apparent reason, black screen, dead. looking for a way to repair it off the boot-cd .
[18:08] <bean__> ddssc_: you could try boot-repair, but it could be any number of things that are actually wrong
[18:09] <ddssc_> bean__: I ran disk diagnostics , everything is ok. it's probaly kernel issue since it fubar'd with "kernel bug" bsod.
[18:09] <bean__> ddssc_: do you have an actual error message anywhere?
[18:10] <ddssc_> bean__: it's my other machine.. but tehre's a kernel log with details, I already posted it here once tho, noone had any idea what happened.  :/
[18:11] <bean__> ddssc_: hmm, have you tried booting it with an earlier kernel?
[18:11] <ddssc_> nope
[18:11] <bean__> i'd give that a try.
[18:11] <ddssc_> dont have much experience with ubuntu dieing...
[18:11] <ddssc_> I was under impression that was more a windows thing :p
[18:12] <bean__> haha, ddssc_ you'd be surprised :) computers a weird sometimes.
[18:12] <S4nD3r> 13.10 is not working with nvidia optimus gt540M
[18:12] <bean__> ddssc_: anyways, what version of ubuntu is it on?
[18:12] <bcurtiswx> ddssc_, windows doesn't have half the awesome community of people we do :) although breaking happens in all OS's
[18:12] <hydruid> Am I the only one who pretends to type at a shell prompt for 1/2 a day on Friday?
[18:12] <ddssc_> 12.10 me hinks .. could be 13.04 I forgot
[18:12] <bean__> hydruid: thats a bit off topic, but yeah.
[18:13] <bean__> ddssc_: alright, so probably something with Grub2, so you likely need to hold down shift when its booting to get the old kernels, etc to show.
[18:13] <ddssc_> hydruid: I got some horrendous sh script open in vim on my big monitor, it drives people away.
[18:13] <ddssc_> bean__: right, hold down shift....
[18:14] <ddssc_> so which kernels can I run ?
[18:14] <bcurtiswx> haha, my favorite thing to do is open a bin file in vim and act completely confused and thinking hard
[18:14] <ddssc_> ^^
[18:14] <dannymichel> Right now i have everything backed up using 'Back in Time" and I'm running Mint. Would I be able to smoothly transition from Mint to Ubuntu with the backups I have in Back in Time? I mean apache configuration, apps, etc. as well. Not just /home stuff.
[18:14] <ddssc_> yeah, real hackers only do hex
[18:14] <docdriza> has anyone had any issues with networking when upgrading Ubuntu from 10.04 to 12.04 using the do-release-upgrade command?
[18:14] <bean__> ddssc_: I'd just pick anything earlier than the "most recent" and see if it boots.
[18:15] <bean__> docdriza: what is the exact problem? networking just doesn't work?
[18:15] <ddssc_> bean__: didnt know there was such an option heh...
[18:15] <bean__> :)
[18:15] <docdriza> bean__: I recently upgraded a Virtual Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04. for some reason i am now not able to ping my gateway or go out to the internet i have the /etc/network/interfaces manually configured and it is a desktop install here is a result of a command if you need some kind of reference http://i.imgur.com/WYdqcDQ.png
[18:15] <antithesis> dannymichel the people in Mint's support channel might be able to answer that question better, since they know what they've modified in Ubuntu
[18:16] <designbybeck> 13.10 64bit on  Dell Precision desktop goes to sleep and doesn't wake up
[18:16] <hydruid> docdriza: try changing your netmask to <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:16] <dannymichel> Wont they just flame me for wanting to move to Ubuntu antithesis ?
[18:16] <bean__> hydruid: docdriza that shouldn't matter though, its a /24
[18:16] <john_doe_jr> I want to search for a string ".setDate" in a directory recursively using grep?
[18:16] <john_doe_jr> how do I do that?
[18:17] <bean__> docdriza: what was the error when pinging the gateway?
[18:17] <bean__> host unreachable, or?
[18:17] <hydruid> bean__: look at the first name server, I bet that is his problem
[18:17] <antithesis> dannymichel lawl
[18:17] <antithesis> iunno they seem p friendly to me
[18:17] <dannymichel> im pretty sure that's what would happen antithesis
[18:17] <bean__> hydruid: he can't ping his gateway -- the dns server has nothing to do with it at this point.
[18:17] <antithesis> From the few experience I have with them
[18:17] <docdriza> bean__: destination host unavailable
[18:17] <hydruid> bean__: how many <IP_ADDRESS>/24's have you seen? lol
[18:17] <antithesis> dannymichel if that happens, just say lel
[18:18] <Octopus_> where to donwload old opera 12 skins?  Thank!
[18:18] <bean__> hydruid: valid point, usually 172.16 is a /20 block… I think
[18:18] <lmat> Okay, I made a stack exchange ticket showing all the information :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/361263
[18:18] <SchrodingersScat> john_doe_jr: would that be grep -r -a ".setDate"
[18:18] <LuxuryMode> If i have the url of some ppa, how do i add that repo?
[18:18] <hydruid> bean__: usually it's a /16
[18:18] <CHA0> How can i search for new channels?
[18:18] <antithesis> Really, in my experience they are more friendly than the people in here
[18:18] <Paddy_NI> !ppa | LuxuryMode
[18:18] <zykotick9> !alis | CHA0
[18:18] <hydruid> docdriza: why are you setting it as static? did DHCP not work?
[18:19] <bean__> hydruid: maybe he doesn't run DHCP :)
[18:19] <Paddy_NI> !addppa > LuxuryMode
[18:19] <costin_> hi
[18:19] <docdriza> bean__: hydruid it needs to be static, becuase I am in a corporate environment. and we are using this like a server
[18:19]  * bean__ figured.
[18:19] <LuxuryMode> thanks Paddy_NI
[18:19] <bean__> docdriza: and it's /etc/network/interfaces didn't change during the upgrade?
[18:19] <hydruid> bean__: I would prefer that he answer for himself, ty
[18:19] <bean__> he just did.
[18:20] <Paddy_NI> Does anyone know where the .desktop files for "unity web apps" are located in the filesystem?
[18:20] <john_doe_jr> SchrodingersScat: thank you that worked
[18:20] <docdriza> hydruid: I never looked at it before the upgrade. I didnt think it was going to be affected
[18:20] <antithesis> Paddy_NI try locate?
[18:20] <docdriza> hydruid: I didnt set up the original box either
[18:20] <trism> john_doe_jr: grep -nHR '\.setDate' directory/;
[18:20] <antithesis> locate facebook.desktop? iunno
[18:20] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I can never figure out how to use locate
[18:21] <bean__> docdriza: are there any other working machines on the network that you could at least "ifconfig -a" on?
[18:21] <hydruid> docdriza: try this command, "ifconfig -a" , is there a listing for eth0 or eth2?
[18:21] <hydruid> docdriza: basically any eth besides eth1
[18:21] <antithesis> Paddy_NI what I just said was an example command
[18:21] <antithesis> It's really that simple
[18:21] <antithesis> Just do sudo updatedb first
[18:22] <mustmodify> confused... what permissions do I need on a pem file at ~/.ssh/amazon.pem to be able to use it with SSH? I tried 006 and apparently I can't even cat it with those permissions.
[18:22] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, Yeah I know how to do that but what actually happens is a never ending stream of directories and files list in the terminal to almost no end
[18:22] <docdriza> just eth1
[18:22] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I have to press ctrl+c to get it to cease
[18:22] <docdriza> hydruid: bean__ just eth 1
[18:22] <antithesis> Paddy_NI that means you need to refine your search
[18:23] <hydruid> docdriza: it would be best to confirm your IP settings to make sure you're in the correct subnet
[18:23] <CHA0> Thanks, ubottu and zykotick9
[18:24] <hydruid> docdriza: usually when I see a <IP_ADDRESS>/24 there are vlan's involved or something is setup incorrectly
[18:24] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I don't think it's possible to refine it any more without making the use of "locate" redundant
[18:25] <trism> Paddy_NI: from a couple quick searches it looks like they are all just in /usr/share/applications
[18:25] <antithesis> Paddy_NI locate -i facebook.desktop gives you an endless stream of output?
[18:25] <lenzeor> Anybody who is up to help me fix my Ubuntu install? I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10; however, when I boot into the 3.11 kernel I get nothing but a blank screen. What can I do?
[18:25] <hydruid> lenzeor: reboot, and choose the previous kernel :P
[18:26] <docdriza> hydruid: im pretty sure the IP setting are corect there is a DNS entry on the network for a specific host name, and when i do a ping -a from my windows box I get the IP address you say in the screenshot
[18:26] <lenzeor> hydruid, yeah, that's a temporary solution :) looking for long-term though
[18:26] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, That actually gives me nothing :-P
[18:26] <Paddy_NI> trism, Thanks
[18:26] <hydruid> hydruid: on your windows box is your subnet mask <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:27] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I'll have another go at locate once I finish the task at hand
[18:27] <Paddy_NI> Thank you
[18:27] <hydruid> lenzeor: yes, then install a newer kernel or slightly older.....experiment
[18:27] <CHA0> Fresh install, lenzer
[18:28] <lenzeor> CHA0 hydruid is there nothing I can do from the recovery console?
[18:28] <antithesis> Paddy_NI what're the files called?
[18:28] <hydruid> lenzeor: you a kernel debugging master?
[18:28] <lenzeor> No, but maybe it's not kernel-specific
[18:28] <antithesis> The facebook one, for example
[18:29] <chaotic_good> uh
[18:29] <hydruid> lenzeor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[18:29] <chaotic_good> why does my i7 cpu appear as 8x80mhz cpu?
[18:29] <chaotic_good> its supposed to be 2.4ghz
[18:29] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, That is part of the problem
[18:30] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I have no idea, I only see what the .desktop files label is
[18:30] <hydruid> docdriza: another option would be to switch over to DHCP momentarily to see if it can pull an address, that is if you have DHCP in your network
[18:30] <lenzeor> okok off for a non-graphical boot, thanks hydruid
[18:30] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, as in the name that will be used in the application launcher.. I guess I could install alacarte and save myself a headache
[18:31] <hydruid> docdriza: just because you can ping an IP that you assigned to an Ubuntu server, doesn't mean there isn't an IP conflict or routing issue or vlan issue.........trial and error and make sure the data you're working with is valid
[18:31] <Unkown> hi
[18:32] <linuxlite1991> longtime no see
[18:32] <antithesis> No Paddy_NI don't give up on doing things through the command line
[18:32] <docdriza> hydruid: would an upgrade like this cause the IP confict or routing issue?
[18:32] <antithesis> Paddy_NI it's a bit of a nuisance now and then, but ultimately, it'll make you a GNU/Linux master. :)
[18:32] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, I I am totally with you, however I don't have the time I used to
[18:33] <hydruid> docdriza: an upgrade would cause neither....
[18:34] <hydruid> docdriza: did this server already have this exact same entwork config? did you compare the subnet info to a known working server or pc?
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: your cpu clocks down under light load
[18:34] <hydruid> docdriza: or do you only want to give vague details to see if we can randomly guess what is wrong?
[18:34] <chaotic_good> ah
[18:35] <chaotic_good> ha!!
[18:35] <chaotic_good> is that it?
[18:35] <chaotic_good> I had just said that to my pal
[18:35] <docdriza> hydruid: im not trying to play any games, I did the in place upgrade using the do-release-upgrade command
[18:35] <bean__> chaotic_good: most likely :) either that or it'll slow down if it gets too hot
[18:35] <hydruid> docdriza: good luck, you haven't answered any of my questions
[18:35] <chaotic_good> so cmon who can help me get vpn going? need to talk to microcrap pptp
[18:35] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it gave scan error. Does anybody know what should I do? (dell studio 1555, ubuntu 13.10)
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: cat /proc/cpuinfo    tells you your actual cpu info
[18:35] <chaotic_good> right
[18:35] <chaotic_good> some times it shows 8x800mhz
[18:35] <chaotic_good> soemtimes 2x200mhz and 6x 800
[18:36] <chaotic_good> freeky
[18:36] <chaotic_good> so about vpn......
[18:36] <hydruid> chaotic_good: I forget what they call it, but your CPU is "green".....it steps itself down when not needed to converse power and etc.
[18:36] <docdriza> hydruid: im not trying to give vague details there is another Kali linux bot on the same subnet that is working
[18:36] <Unkown> Hay Im GOnna Hack
[18:36] <docdriza> box*
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: did you install pptp-linux ?
[18:36] <Unkown> no
[18:36] <hydruid> docdriza: the netmask/subnet match?
[18:36] <docdriza> yes
[18:37] <Paddy_NI> antithesis, Okay so what sent me wrong with the search was the case sensitivity no doubt "GoogleCalendar" :-)
[18:37] <hydruid> docdriza: do you have DHCP in your environment?
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: hydruid: intel speedstep
[18:37] <docdriza> hydruid: I am new to my company so it is taking me a little more time to get you your answers. I am looking into DHCP
[18:37] <hydruid> hitsujiTMO: TY!
[18:37] <Paddy_NI> trism, You where spot on by the way, thank you very much :-)
[18:38] <hydruid> docdriza: remove the static IP's and set it to DHCP, see if it can pull an IP or not
[18:38] <Platz> has anyone run into this warning when starting vim in ubuntu after upgrading to 13.10? http://askubuntu.com/questions/361180/gvim-glib-gobject-warning-in-ubuntu-13-10
[18:38] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to delete old kernels with ubuntu tweak. but it gave scan error. Does anybody know what should I do? (dell studio 1555, ubuntu 13.10)
[18:38] <nightdrever> In additional drivers im on nvidia accelerated driver (version 304)  but version 319-updates is avaliable, how do i install this......a few months ago i tried by just deselecting version 304 and installing other one but then my pc wouldnt start and i need to reinstall linux......how do i do it safetly so this doesnt happen?....thanks
[18:40] <moppy> mojtaba: you could manually delete old kernels - I htink from memory they will be in /boot and /lib/modules. Long as you don't delete the current one, should be fine
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: delete them manually    ... whats the output of: uname -r      and: dpkg --get-selections | grep "linux-image"
[18:41] <OerHeks> moppy current and the one before that (recovery)
[18:41] <fabio_> !list
[18:41] <fabio_> ciao
[18:41] <fabio_> !list
[18:42] <moppy> OerHeks: I accept what you say makes sense, but I don't have recovery on mine.
[18:42] <moppy> OerHeks: So you are right, I just forget people have recovery ones
[18:42] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, I wonder if it is possible for me to change Roots keyboard settings?
[18:43] <fabio_> ciao
[18:43] <fabio_> !list
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> Paddy_NI: i would have a look at /etc/default/keyboard   maybe
[18:43] <DJones> !piracy | fabio_
[18:43] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, Ha :-)
[18:44] <Platz> What does this mean ? -> gvim:4054): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::sm-connect after class was initialised
[18:44] <OerHeks> mojtaba, so try again, and hold the current kernel + previous one
[18:44] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, does this look roughly normal http://paste.ubuntu.com/6259074/
[18:44] <chaotic_good> pptp-linux  ??
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> Paddy_NI: yes that seems correct
[18:45] <docdriza> hydruid: The DHCP config does not work, So i can only assume that there is not DHCP on this network.
[18:45] <chaotic_good> pptp-linux ??
[18:45] <chaotic_good> ok
[18:45] <Brutusss> Hi, I upgrade my 13.04 to 13.10 and don't have any network. When I do ifconfig I can only see lo and not eth1. I can see a wired connection when I check network options. I have DHCP on my network available.
[18:46] <hydruid> docdriza: you don't need to assume, you need to check with a confirmed good laptop
[18:46] <Brutusss> I can't go online on that machine anymore. was fine untill I rebooted after the upgrade
[18:46] <hydruid> docdriza: it's possible that the NIC drivers are messed up, but you need to unplug the cable from the broken server and plug it into a laptop to see what your results are
[18:47] <docdriza> hydruid: ths is a VM
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> chaotic_good: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN#VPN_setup_using_the_command_line
[18:47] <hydruid> docdriza: what type of Hypervisor?
[18:47] <Paddy_NI> hitsujiTMO, I noticed that when I lock the screen so that it displays a password prompt when someone activates the mouse/keyboard, that there is an "en" next to the text entry field (to the right) when I click on this is changes to "en2" (small 2) however in my session there is only one language choice available
[18:47] <docdriza> hydruid: no clue, where would i get that info?
[18:48] <hydruid> docdriza: what platform is the VM on? Vmware, Xen, Virtualbox?
[18:48] <hydruid> docdriza: hyper-v?
[18:48] <docdriza> hydruid: its Hyper-V
[18:48] <hydruid> docdriza: is it a regular nic or a legacy?
[18:48] <hydruid> docdriza: what you have in the VM settings?
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> Paddy_NI: its a really weird issue ... i had the same thing but after the first restart i removed 'us' and had no problems ...
[18:48] <thy_> ood evening gentlemen
[18:49] <xbmc> hi, how can i get Remote Control without login
[18:49] <sam113101> good afternoon
[18:49] <Paddy_NI> Okay hitsujiTMO  I'm going to restart again and hope for the best :-) many many thanks
[18:49] <Morkel> Hi, is it possible to make a full disk encryption on a server and load the key from a tpm module on the board? Its not possible to enter a password but i want that the thief can not use the stolen disk
[18:49] <Brutusss> Hi, I upgrade my 13.04 to 13.10 and don't have any network. When I do ifconfig I can only see lo and not eth1.
[18:49] <hydruid> docdriza: it will say network adapter or legacy network adapter
[18:49] <Brutusss> was working fine yesterday before the upgrade
[18:49] <docdriza> hydruid: in the Hardware config settings, it says Legacy Network Adapter
[18:50] <docdriza> hydruid: took me some time to get to it.
[18:50] <hydruid> docdriza: power it off, remove the legacy network adapter, and add a network adapter
[18:50] <chaotic_good> http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml so this for pptp
[18:50] <jeroen-> Updated to 13.10 and now during boot Ubuntu does nothing for a minute and than it continues. In the logs I reas something about nptd. Help?
[18:50] <docdriza> hydruid: ok
[18:50] <jeroen-> Help!
[18:50] <hydruid> docdriza: they probably used the legacy adapter for compatibility with 10.04
[18:50] <Reacto> Why does using dual monitors work so badly in ubuntu?
[18:51] <Reacto> sometimes you have to try like 5 times to get the mouse over to another monitor
[18:51] <jamesbong> howdy, i have /tmp on my 2nd hdd as well as an empty /srv partition, now i want to move /tmp to be just a subfolder of / (1st hdd) and delete /srv which is empty anyways
[18:51] <hydruid> bean: did you run out of wind? lol
[18:51] <Thoams_> because vendors don't make drivers for linux boxes.
[18:51] <Thoams_> go figure.
[18:51] <xbmc> hi, how can i get Remote Deskto without need to login on ubuntu
[18:51] <jamesbong> coz i want the 2nd hdd to be empty for another os
[18:51] <hydruid> xbmc: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:51] <Reacto> it's so weird that it sometimes works really well, but sometimes it just gets stuck at the edge
[18:51] <docdriza> hydruid: While this powers off, I have a question. Do legacy adapters not work with newer version of Ubuntu?
[18:51] <xbmc> 13.10
[18:51] <xbmc> hydruid, 13.10
[18:52] <lenzeor> I cannot even boot into failsafe graphics mode. -_- is there a way to downgrade to 13.04 again?
[18:52] <Dwarf> lenzeor, what is your problem?
[18:52] <auronandace> lenzeor: downgrades are not supported, you'd need to fresh install
[18:52] <Arin> I am about to download 13.10. Should I go with 32 bit ot 64 bit on a laptop with a GT 540M nVidia Optimus card considering driver support, or does it not matter?
[18:52] <hydruid> docdriza: legacy network adapters are not designed to be used in production, it's more for older OS's or legacy stuff like PXE boot
[18:52] <hydruid> xbmc: at the logon screen it shoud say something like remote services
[18:52] <Dwarf> Arin, how much RAM?
[18:53] <homer> Arin, how much memory does the laptop have installed?
[18:53] <Dwarf> Also, Arin, I'm guessing it has a modern CPU so go with 64 bit
[18:53] <lenzeor> Dwarf, auronandace.  I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. When I try to boot into the new kernel, I get a blank screen (after the splash screen though).
[18:53] <hydruid> xbmc: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[18:53] <Arin> More that a 32 bit can make use of, not sure I believe, but doesn't remember. Will check.
[18:53] <auronandace> !nomodeset | lenzeor
[18:54] <cyberalex4life> hello!
[18:54] <Dwarf> lenzeor, can you change to a different tty?
[18:54] <lenzeor> auronandace, I'll try that.
[18:54] <Arin> 6GB, so 64 bit would be best, but support for Flash, drivers, and other software is no issue now?
[18:54] <lenzeor> Dwarf, that's Alt+F2 or F3 right?
[18:54] <Dwarf> Arin, to my knowledge it never was a problem
[18:54] <Dwarf> ctrl+alt+F2 or F3 or whatever
[18:55] <hydruid> Arin: you're thinking windows and x64 drivers
[18:55] <lenzeor> okay will try both and be back
[18:55] <homer> i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, the boot up time is now significantly longer than it was prior, is there a fix for this?
[18:55] <hydruid> docdriza: any luck?
[18:55] <jeroen-> Hanging during boot for a minute. Anyone/
[18:55] <jeroen-> ?
[18:55] <docdriza> hydruid: I was able to remove the old NIC, and add the new one, but I'm waiting for it to boot up.
[18:56] <hydruid> docdriza: gotcha, dont' be surprised if the NIC changes from eth1 to eth0 or eth2
[18:56] <Arin> No, I have had problems with software on 64 bit Linux earlier, so I have been sticking with 32 bit.
[18:56] <cyberalex4life> does anyone know any good fix for i7 cpu laptops to turbo boost properly?
[18:56] <docdriza> hydruid: yeah, not an issue. I have to configure the static IP address again.
[18:57] <Dwarf> cyberalex4life, latest kernels turbo boost correctly
[18:57] <cyberalex4life> well indicator-cpufreq doesn't show it
[18:57] <Dwarf> Unless you're on an ancient kernel turbo shouldn't be a problem
[18:57] <cyberalex4life> not in ubuntu 13.04
[18:57] <Dwarf> indicator-cpufreq doesn't show turboboost, it uses it's full potential in the background tho
[18:57] <cyberalex4life> not in 13.10
[18:58] <cyberalex4life> do you know some command to be sure?
[18:58] <Guest99344> 13.10 did Mir & Wayland replace xorg-server ?
[18:58] <Arin> I download the 64-bit version and give it a try :)
[18:59] <CorpusCallosum> hi guys i have a problem with vmware tools (vmware fusion). after update 12.04, somehow xorg is gone, ubuntu was openning in terminal mode. then i reinstall xorg. this time it is openning but vmware tools is not working. tried to reinstall vmware tools but didnot work. Any suggestion?
[18:59] <hydruid> Guest99344: no will have to wait for 14.04 probably
[18:59] <Dwarf> cyberalex4life, i saw it on some mailinglist, unsure about the commands
[18:59] <auronandace> Guest99344: mir has been postponed
[18:59] <Guest99344> Ohh ok.. just wondered..
[19:00] <cyberalex4life> I saw something like that sure
[19:00] <cyberalex4life> and I assure you that my i7 was not going over 2.301 GHz
[19:00] <cyberalex4life> on 13.04
[19:01] <auronandace> !rootirc | CorpusCallosum
[19:01] <guest-7756> I dont understand why you cant just blow away everything on the drive and create a new partition table when a table is lost like this. Doesnt make sense to me
[19:01] <tgm4883> Guest99344, I'm not sure why you think Mir AND Wayland would replace xorg-server in 13.10, but you can install XMir in 13.10 is you want
[19:02] <docdriza> ok hydruid It is only seeing the loopback interface i have to turn on the other interface somehow
[19:03] <bean__> docdriza: even with "ifconfig -a"
[19:04] <docdriza> bean__: hydruid eth0
[19:04] <mark4_> running ubuntu on a beagle board and i have no killall util
[19:04] <mark4_> where do i get killall?
[19:04] <bean__> docdriza: right so it didn't bring it up because it couldn't find it in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:04] <auronandace> !arm | mark4_
[19:05] <hydruid> docdriza: yes ifconfig -a to find eth0 and then change your /etc/network/interfaces settings from eth1 to eth0
[19:05] <bean__> so change your eth1's to eth0's in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:05] <bean__> :)
[19:06] <connorson> ...
[19:06] <connorson> Hi all
[19:06] <docdriza> bean__: hydruid I did that, then did service networking start and that did not work. I did restart, and that still is not working.
[19:06] <connorson> i need help
[19:07] <hydruid> docdriza: try /etc/init.d/networking stop then /etc/init.d/networking start
[19:07] <kenshiro> Hi, I used Gnome Classic Desktop in Ubuntu 13.04 (gnome-panel package) . After upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10, my Gnome Classic desktop is broken, up panel has no items, and it's not possible to add items again. Any fix for this?
[19:08] <kenshiro> I purged the package and reinstalled again, no luck
[19:08] <docdriza> none of that seems to be working
[19:09] <docdriza> hydruid: bean__ ^
[19:09] <connorson> Can anyone help me?
[19:09] <cgt> !details
[19:09] <hydruid> docdriza: when you do ifconfig does it list eth0
[19:09] <docdriza> nope
[19:09] <nightdrever> in additional drivers says driver is activated but not currently in use?
[19:09] <hydruid> docdriza: reboot
[19:09] <connorson> My problem is: While updating to 13.10 Distro Upgrade It crashed and now Unity is not loading a giving errors!
[19:09] <docdriza> hydruid: I was afraid you were going to say that...rebooting
[19:10] <hydruid> :P
[19:11] <homer> connorson, is it the low graphics mode failsafe error?
[19:11] <connorson> 'It crashed on configuring python or else, as i got nothing to backup i will format it :(
[19:11] <connorson> No Homer, Distro Upgade has crashed
[19:11] <connorson> Not Working at all
[19:11] <connorson> Just at Terminal and Chrome
[19:12] <homer> i would to try the upgrade several times yesterday before it actually started to upgrade
[19:12] <defaultro> hi folks, I have an off topic question. Who has experience with MX mail records?
[19:13] <fellayaboy> a
[19:13] <genii> defaultro: Probably a better question for #ubuntu-server
[19:13] <defaultro> cool
[19:13] <Zipzap> hey everyone
[19:14] <kenshiro> Any way of reset Gnome Flashback desktop to defaults in Ubuntu 13.10? (Broken after upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04)
[19:15] <docdriza> hydruid: that was it. thanks dude. I am able to ping google
[19:15] <hydruid> docdriza: 3 cheers
[19:15] <hydruid> bean___: booyah
[19:15] <hydruid> docdriza: glad you got it working, yea those damn legacy adapters are helpful in a pinch but a pain
[19:15] <docdriza> hydruid: thanks, I new there had to me something outside the system causing this
[19:16] <hydruid> docdriza: you're welcome
[19:16] <connorson> homer
[19:17] <docdriza> hydruid: I would buy you a beer if I could
[19:17] <hydruid> docdriza: woot free beer
[19:17] <hydruid> docdriza: are you in the USA?
[19:18] <docdriza> hydruid: yes