[00:38] <Elec_C> Hi, I have created several new users, but when I loging to a user, terminal is behaving really terrible. tab autocompletion is not working, it does not show current location and hostname before $. what configuration should I copy from root ?
[00:47] <krytarik> Elec_A: It would seem you created the users in a wrong way.  And generally, what's in '/etc/skel/'.
[00:50] <Elec_A> krytarik: I just did "useradd -m USER"
[00:50] <Elec_A> krytarik: is it wrong ?
[00:50] <krytarik> Yep.
[00:51] <Elec_A> krytarik: so how should I do that?
[00:51] <krytarik> Either via GUI, or using 'adduser'.
[00:52] <krytarik> That one didn't even create the home directory for the specific users.
[00:52] <Elec_A> krytarik: I have used "-m" so it has.
[00:52] <krytarik> Yep, just noticed.
[00:53] <krytarik> So it should have the 'skel' stuff too.
[00:54] <krytarik> Check if it does.
[00:55] <Elec_A> krytarik: I used GUI to delete an existing user and added the same user again with GUI. It has copied skel stuff again and the problem still exists.
[00:56] <krytarik> That's fun..
[00:57] <Elec_A> krytarik: yeah, for you  :)
[00:57] <krytarik> Last time I did that, it worked as expected though.
[00:58] <krytarik> And no, not particularly. :)
[01:04] <Elec_A> krytarik: I used "adduser" and now it works!
[01:12] <krytarik> \o/
[01:16] <krytarik> Elec_A: What version of Xubuntu is this, btw?
[01:16] <Elec_A> krytarik: 16.04
[09:55] <xubuntu76w> hi all
[09:57] <pmjdebruijn> lo
[09:58] <xubuntu76w> i recently installed xubuntu on an hp elitebook, i am having usb transfer rate problems on the installed system that are not present on the live usb system. the driver in use is xhci_hcd, it doesnt show up in lsmod (due to it being in-built?)... I cant seem to find any leads to go on. just that the transfer rates are 1mb/s or less and unbearable...
[09:58] <xubuntu76w> i tried several ports and drives
[09:59] <pmjdebruijn> using the same stick?
[09:59] <xubuntu76w> no difference between usb 2 or 3
[09:59] <pmjdebruijn> do you see anything in dmesg?
[10:00] <xubuntu76w> nothing that seems alarming, just that the stick connected is using the correct xhci_hcd driver
[10:00] <pmjdebruijn> did you try a different stick?
[10:00] <xubuntu76w> yup, external drives
[10:00] <xubuntu76w> same problem
[10:01] <xubuntu76w> when i go back to live cd it works fine, not sure about usb 2 or 3 or both working fine but the transfer rates become acceptable to usb 2 standard at least
[10:03] <xubuntu76w> CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_XHCI_PCI=y CONFIG_USB_XHCI_PLATFORM=m
[10:03] <pmjdebruijn> did you update after the install
[10:04] <pmjdebruijn> it might just be a kernel regression
[10:04] <pmjdebruijn> in grub you should be able to boot an old kernel too
[10:04] <pmjdebruijn> I think you can get into GRUB by holding down shift during boot or something along those lines
[10:04]  * pmjdebruijn doesn't recall exactly
[10:04] <xubuntu76w> i did, though i am doing it again now. i reinstalled hoping it would solve the problem, still updating now. but no luck so far...
[10:05] <xubuntu76w> i did not use an older kernel though
[10:05] <xubuntu76w> how can i install a specific version ? can i find it in the default repos?
[10:06] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[10:06] <pmjdebruijn> when you install you get the same kernel as the usb stick you installed from
[10:06] <pmjdebruijn> when you update and reboot you get a newer one
[10:07] <pmjdebruijn> if you hold down shift during boot, you can select which one you want to boot with
[10:07] <xubuntu76w> yes, but id like to try an older kernel like you suggested
[10:07] <xubuntu76w> i didnt update
[10:07] <xubuntu76w> i installed on a new drive
[10:07] <pmjdebruijn> then try a new one first :)
[10:07] <xubuntu76w> oh, you mean newer than the one in the current lts
[10:07] <xubuntu76w> i see
[10:07] <pmjdebruijn> no
[10:08] <pmjdebruijn> there are patch versions in the lts too
[10:08] <xubuntu76w> so shift should work for me too during boot?
[10:08] <pmjdebruijn> I install with 4.4.0-21.37 and now I have 4.4.0-62.83
[10:08] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu76w: I guess so
[10:08] <pmjdebruijn> I think it was shift
[10:08] <pmjdebruijn> not sure
[10:08] <xubuntu76w> ok
[10:08] <pmjdebruijn> I sure google could tell you
[10:08] <xubuntu76w> ill give it a shot once the updates are done
[10:09] <xubuntu76w> thx pmjdebruijn
[11:24] <Chrismeister> How is xubuntu developed? Is Canonical the head of development and organize volounteers? Or are there some individuals that makes the project go forward?
[11:25] <knome> xubuntu is ran by volunteers, canonical offers the infrastructure
[11:27] <Chrismeister> knome: I don't really understand what is meant by infrastructure. Exactly what are Canonicals responsibilities within the project? Can I read about this somewhere?
[11:27] <knome> for example, the xubuntu ISO'
[11:27] <knome> ergh
[11:28] <knome> the xubuntu ISO's are built on canonical hardware
[11:28] <Chrismeister> Does the community develop packages and themes?
[11:28] <knome> and no, there isn't a specific lists of things that canonical offers, but they all more or less fall into infrastructure
[11:28] <knome> yes, the community does all development work, including the themes
[11:29] <Chrismeister> knome: But Canonical are the ones that accepts contibutions?
[11:29] <knome> i don't understand the question?
[11:29] <knome> contributions to code?
[11:30] <Chrismeister> knome: So the community offers Canonical packages and themes. But Canonical are the ones accepting the contributions (of code)?
[11:30] <knome> well... not really
[11:30] <Chrismeister> knome: hmm, okey
[11:30] <knome> canonical maintains some packages
[11:31] <knome> so in the case of those, i guess you could say canonical accepts the contributions (and decides what goes into them)
[11:31] <knome> and by packages i mean packages and upstream
[11:31] <knome> canonical might maintain a package that has an upstream, where the upstream is the project that "accepts" the contributions
[11:31] <knome> do you have a specific package in mind?
[11:33] <Chrismeister> knome: Say for example that parts of the community want to change some default software that is included in xubuntu. Is there a team in Canonical that discuss this request and implement this if they feel this is right?
[11:33] <knome> no, the xubuntu team has full control of their packageset, including the default software
[11:33] <Chrismeister> For example inkscape. inkscape is not default but the community asks for it
[11:34] <Chrismeister> knome: Okey, the xubuntu team consist of community and canonical members?
[11:34] <knome> only volunteer community members
[11:34] <Chrismeister> knome: How are these community members added to the team?
[11:35] <Chrismeister> By acceptance from other members or..?
[11:35] <knome> by meritocracy, so kind of by acceptance from others
[11:35] <knome> you can read more about it at http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/xsd.html#xsd-community
[11:37] <Chrismeister> knome: Thanks! Will be interesting reading. I have one final question. This one kinda involves Ubuntu in general. Can we be sure that no harmful code is included in repository packages?
[11:37] <Chrismeister> Say that a package maintainer includes this to SSH for a day.
[11:37] <Chrismeister> a password collector or something
[11:37] <knome> there are several measures taken to avoid that, most prominently not everybody can upload anything to the repositories
[11:37] <knome> it's all based on trust
[11:38] <Chrismeister> knome: Okey, thanks for all the response!
[11:39] <knome> technically, it's possible that somebody uploads something malicious, but even if that were the case, i'm pretty sure the actions to remove that would be relatively fast
[11:39] <knome> that said, i haven't heard that that would have ever happened
[11:39] <knome> no worries and enjoy xubuntu
[11:39] <knome> and if you decide to contribute, we do need all kinds of skills ;)
[11:41] <Chrismeister> knome: Hehe, I will think about it! Been a regular user since a few years back and really likes the distro! Beautiful and fast on all computers.
[11:42] <knome> glad to hear
[12:22] <xubuntu05w> Hi
[12:24] <xubuntu05w> I am having trouble with my usb transfer rates. They work fine in live mode, then once installed the rate drops dramatically to 1mb/s or below on average. I tried several kernels, older and newer available in the repos with no luck.
[12:24] <xubuntu05w> any help would be greatly appreciated.
[12:25] <xubuntu05w> Is there a way to track the changes using keywords in the kernel changelogs in order to perhaps find the right version to try?
[12:45] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu05w: /usr/share/doc/linux-image-.../Changelog.gz has some hints
[17:14] <Cust0sLimen> hi
[17:20] <Cust0sLimen> so my subpixel smoothing on xubuntu seems to be a total mess
[17:20] <Cust0sLimen> https://i.imgur.com/Z2Ues4U.png
[17:20] <Cust0sLimen> in some things it looks right
[17:20] <Cust0sLimen> but in hexchat for example its just complete mess
[17:23] <Cust0sLimen> let me recreate my home dir maybe
[17:23] <Cust0sLimen> or no let me create another user and test with it


[07:30] <MooDoo> hello all
[08:15] <SuperMatt> Morning Voters.
[08:39] <TwistedLucidity> Morning subject. Have sworn your daily oath of fealty to Darth Mayder like a good prole?
[08:40] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:20] <zmoylan-pi> ++report to room 102 for your daily scourging+++
[09:26] <TwistedLucidity> 102 - "processing".
[10:28] <diddledan> everyone go vote!
[10:29] <brobostigon> rob the conservatives of victory, make them wish they hadnt called the election and the referendum.
[10:37] <TwistedLucidity> Tories predicted to get ~340 seats. Not the stonking majority they hoped for, but enough.
[10:37] <TwistedLucidity> Theresa May just loves her some "Statutory Instruments"
[10:39] <TwistedLucidity> The only hope is that the youngsters go and vote, but as they are a feckless bunch of lay-abouts with zero motivation; they won't.
[10:39]  * TwistedLucidity hopes he understands this "reverse psychology" thing
[10:39] <TwistedLucidity> I vote in ~30 mins.
[10:43] <brobostigon> :)
[10:43] <TwistedLucidity> Someone tell JamesTait that Sat 10th is World Gin Day. http://worldginday.com/
[10:46] <TwistedLucidity> DAMN! Just thought of a T-shirt I should have gotten printed. "sudo apt purge tory"
[10:47] <SuperMatt> lawls
[10:47] <SuperMatt> although I'd make it more distro agnostic
[10:47] <SuperMatt> rm -rf /tories
[10:49] <TwistedLucidity> Can you pipe a device to null? "sudo /dev/may > /dev/null"?
[10:50] <SuperMatt> no, but you could dd if=/dev/null of=/tories
[10:50] <TwistedLucidity> Heh, nice
[10:50] <TwistedLucidity> Aren't if/of the wrong way round? I was thinking dumping everything these say into the blackhole of null
[10:51] <TwistedLucidity> *they
[10:52] <SuperMatt> oh I see, I was overwriting the tories
[10:53] <Azelphur> Tried to open a bank account at Barclays, they told me my application was rejected and I should "Refer to the terms and conditions"
[10:53] <Azelphur> :<
[10:54] <TwistedLucidity> SuperMatt: dd if=/dev/random of=/tories
[10:54] <TwistedLucidity> Azelphur: Try Bank of Scotland. They had reasonable rates and a nice website.
[10:55] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: need an account with USD balance is the problem
[10:55] <Azelphur> so probably HSBC next
[10:55] <TwistedLucidity> Ah
[12:16] <Azelphur> For extra hilarity, nobody at the bank actually knows why my account has been rejected
[12:16] <Azelphur> guess that's a good reason to not bank with Barclays
[12:18] <zmoylan-pi> they could tell you but then they'd be added to the forbidden to deal with list...
[12:18] <Azelphur> lol
[12:57] <diplo> TP Link OK for a cheap switch in a small office ? Not really used much of their kit
[12:57] <diplo> Looking at the TL-SG108
[13:00] <popey> i use tp-link stuff, works well
[13:00] <popey> better than the netgear stuff I previously used
[13:01] <popey> in fact, i have that very switch on my desk :)
[13:02] <diplo> Good enough for you, will do for them then :)
[13:02] <diplo> ta fanx - I dislike netgear kit so was looking for something else
[13:02] <popey> http://imgur.com/28GHydZ
[13:02] <popey> excuse the dust
[13:03] <diplo> All full up too thanks
[13:03] <popey> :)
[13:03] <popey> yeah, went to plug a pc into it the other day and went "oh, bugger"
[13:03] <popey> didn't realise I had need for 8 ports until then
[13:03] <diplo> Time for a 24 port then
[13:04] <popey> heheh
[13:04] <popey> i only need a 9 port! :D
[13:04] <diplo> :D
[13:04] <diplo> Ordered thank you, Prime is great for this sort of thing
[13:05] <popey> ya
[13:09] <popey> i didn't mean to make that image public, now I'm getting comments on it
[13:14] <diplo> Can't see comments here
[13:16] <popey> http://imgur.com/gallery/cMIdz
[13:18] <diplo> Here we see a picture of OPs mom in her natural habitat.
[13:18] <diplo> I've never read imgur comments, are they all as bad as this? :)
[13:19] <diplo> Do these people have no work... I can't be arsed to respond on FB etc let alone a img site
[13:19] <popey> not on the front page
[13:19] <popey> in user submitted they're pretty terrible
[13:20] <zmoylan-pi> it's for trolls not ready for youtube... :-P
[13:24] <diplo> I try and stop my kids looking at comments
[14:01] <popey> exobuzz: happy belated birthday :)
[14:01] <popey> (you weren't here on your birthday)
[14:01] <exobuzz> popey, oh - thanks! :-)
[14:02] <exobuzz> popey, how's things ?
[14:39] <selinuxium> Hey guys. Any monit users here?
[14:41] <Azelphur> selinuxium: I used to use it, switched to nagios
[14:42] <selinuxium> Yeah, I wanted something a little smaller. It is only supposed to be to monitor a couple of services and restart them..
[14:42] <selinuxium> I could code it. But I fancied getting my head around monit.
[14:42] <Azelphur> yea, monit is fine for single systems, as soon as you get more than one system though, monit is a potato.
[14:43] <selinuxium> :)
[14:43] <Azelphur> what's up anyway? I know my way around monit a bit.
[14:43] <selinuxium> But MMonit allows for more than one system, only have a few boxen here so a license would be trivial
[14:43] <selinuxium> Yeah, Sorry... :)
[14:44] <Azelphur> €65...trivial :P
[14:44] <selinuxium> Trivial when it would be a purchase order and not mine... :)
[14:44] <Azelphur> suppose
[14:45] <selinuxium> So...
[14:45] <selinuxium> monitrc - https://paste.ubuntu.com/24808314/
[14:47] <selinuxium> The monoserve just comes up with Status - Execution Faile
[14:47] <selinuxium> Failed
[14:47] <Azelphur> is monit running as root?
[14:48] <selinuxium> I assume so...
[14:48] <Azelphur> ps aux | grep monit
[14:48] <selinuxium> Erm.. yes.
[14:48] <Azelphur> hmm, interesting
[14:48] <Azelphur> have you tried running /etc/init.d/monoserve start manually, to see what happens?
[14:49] <selinuxium> Yeah, the /etc/init.d/monoserve start/stop/restart works, and has for several years...
[14:50] <Azelphur> that's weird
[14:50] <Azelphur> perhaps journalctl can shed some light?
[14:50] <Azelphur> that is, assuming you're running monit under systemd
[14:50] <selinuxium> Sadly not.
[14:51] <Azelphur> maybe run monit in the foreground?
[14:52] <selinuxium> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24808337/
[14:52] <selinuxium> Doesn't give me much...
[14:52] <Azelphur> that's me out of ideas :(
[14:53] <selinuxium> Dammit, thanks for your time though  :)
[14:53] <Azelphur> np, there is a monit IRC channel if you haven't tried there already, it's not that active though
[14:54] <Azelphur> ah, you're already in there
[14:54] <selinuxium> Nobody here but us chickens... :)
[14:54] <Azelphur> hehe
[14:55] <selinuxium> Right. My home time beckons. Thanks again  :)
[17:46] <DJones> Heh, its good of the United States to arrange a congressional hearing with the former FBI director on election day in the UK,  otherwise the uk's news media would have nothing to do today apart from report on https://twitter.com/hashtag/dogsatpollingstations?lang=en
[18:30] <foobarry> actually the day after is more busy
[18:30] <foobarry> nothing atually happens on election day
[18:52] <DJones> yep,
[18:53] <DJones> Well, saying yep, news still goes on, just reporters don't bother
[20:29] <daftykins> hrmm my wealthy client has just bought a pad in Fulham! it seems the area is getting www.hyperoptic.com installed soon :O
[20:29] <daftykins> anyone had any experience with them? :)
[20:42] <daftykins> hrmm looks like they're using carrier grade NAT
[21:13] <m0nkey_> Evening all
[21:13] <m0nkey_> Tonight is going to be interesting
[21:15] <zmoylan-pi> the old curse been may you live in interesting times
[21:17] <brobostigon>  rm -rf /dev/tories :D
[21:18] <m0nkey_> I'm surprised I'm able to stream the results from the BBC
[21:21] <brobostigon> streamlink -p cvlc https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone besr
[21:21] <brobostigon> streamlink -p cvlc https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone best


[09:43] <eagles0513875> morning
[13:19] <fta> [reed], checking for sqlite3 >= 3.6.18... Requested 'sqlite3 >= 3.6.18' but version of SQLite is 3.6.16  :(
[13:33] <fta> stevel, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32933723/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.songbird_1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126-0ubuntu1~usd1~jaunty_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  broken with --enable-system-sqlite
[13:33] <eagles0513875> ouchie fta :(
[13:34] <fta> g++ -o sbDBEngine.so -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,-rpath-link,/build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/compiled/dist/xulrunner -shared -Wl,-version-script,/build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/components/dbengine/src/hide-sqlite.ver -lpthread  -lglib-2.0    -L/build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/dependencies/linux-x86_64/mozilla/release/lib Data
[13:34] <fta> baseEngineComponent.o DatabaseEngine.o DatabaseQuery.o DatabasePreparedStatement.o DatabaseResult.o       /build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/compiled/components/moz/strings/src/sbMozStringUtils.a   /build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/compiled/components/moz/threads/src/sbMozThreads.a   /build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/compiled//build/buildd/song
[13:34] <fta> bird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/dependencies/linux-x86_64/sqlite/release/lib/libsqlite3.a.a -lxpcomglue_s -lnspr4 -lxpcom -lplds4 -lunicharutil_external_s
[13:34] <fta> g++: /build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/compiled//build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091002r15126/build-tree/songbird/dependencies/linux-x86_64/sqlite/release/lib/libsqlite3.a.a: No such file or directory
[13:34] <fta> make[6]: *** [sbDBEngine.so] Error 1
[13:34] <stevel> hrm.
[13:34] <eagles0513875> fta: care u dont spam urself out
[13:34] <fta> d'oh!, long lines
[13:34] <stevel> libsqlite3.a.a ?
[13:34] <stevel> that's definitely not right
[13:35] <stevel> will need to check with preed to see if he changed anything on x86_64 recently. i don't recall anything going in though
[13:36] <fta> regression between r15096 and r15126 (1 day)
[13:42] <stevel> fta: actually we did do something
[13:42] <stevel> http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17800
[13:42] <fta> de-malgamated?
[13:43] <fta> oh, you used the concatenated source file before?
[13:43]  * stevel shrugs
[13:43] <stevel> beats me :)
[13:43] <fta> [reed], wtf is /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmozalloc?
[13:43]  * stevel would have to check with preed
[13:44] <fta> too much redness during the w-e. i give up
[13:48] <fta> mozilla 441324
[13:52] <fta> backed out, great
[13:53] <eagles0513875> fta: looks like u have ur work cut out for ya
[13:54] <eagles0513875> wb bdrung
[13:55] <fta> eagles0513875, i'd prefer the dailies to always stay green, really
[13:55] <bdrung> eagles0513875: i pulled my lan cable :)
[13:55] <eagles0513875> bdrung: operator error replace operator :P
[13:55] <eagles0513875> fta: what you mean
[13:55] <eagles0513875> you mean that 5 a day rule or what ever there is?
[13:55] <bdrung> :D
[14:10] <fta> d'oh! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-October/000626.html
[14:11] <fta> so late in the cycle :(
[22:43] <[reed]> fta: mozalloc is our new infallible malloc


[19:31] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: yeah edits are temporary for that boot
[19:31] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: so you select it hit e find the line edit it hit ctrl+x to boot with that new config
[19:32] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: there are on screen prompts but you might miss them with a short timeout on grub
[19:33] <nealshire> are there any dynamic dns clients people would recommend for ubuntu? must be compatible with namecheap
[19:33] <RoadRunner> wafflejock: so editing puts you into grub's config file and what editor do you edit it with at that point?
[19:33] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: honestly not sure it's just a basic text editor like pico or nano
[19:34] <wafflejock> the line you want to change based on what EriC^^ said had to do with the targeted partition but I just caught the tail of the conversation and EriC^^ knows boot stuff better anyhow :)
[19:35] <RoadRunner> wafflejock: how would you edit grub's menu items to have menu names of booting partitions renamed permanently?
[19:37] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: believe you just want to edit /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub to make permanent changes to the grub.cfg that grub2 uses https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[19:37] <wafflejock> RoadRunner: nice to do it temporarily in the boot menu though so you don't end up in a worse situation since it reverts on next boot
[19:38] <RoadRunner> I mean after I implement the changes, I'll have 2 Ubuntu partitions that I would like to diferentiate between
[19:38] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: aren't you going to change the uuid with tune2fs ?
[19:38] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: yes
[19:39] <EriC^^> oh you mean the naming in the menu entry? it'd be easier to memorize which is which honestly
[19:39] <EriC^^> or you'd have to cancel one and make a custom entry in 40_custom for it with a different name
[19:40] <EriC^^> in /etc/grub.d/40_custom , basically you just copy and paste the entry there and update-grub
[19:41] <EriC^^> ( from /etc/grub/grub.cfg )
[19:41] <EriC^^> */boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:41] <RoadRunner> that doesn't sound too bad, or am I missing something?
[19:42] <EriC^^> well it won't update automatically, so if you get new kernels you'd have to update it manually
[19:43] <RoadRunner> if its just editing the files you mentioned above (mostly by pasting), I think its not too bad
[19:43] <wafflejock> yah seems like updating that on every kernel update might get tedious though
[19:44] <EriC^^> yeah, but every time you update your kernel, you have to edit it and put the new ...hmm
[19:44] <wafflejock> script it I suppose it wouldn't be so bad but not sure if you'd still have to get in there manually or if you could automate it totally
[19:44] <EriC^^> you could put linux /vmlinuz and initrd /initrd.img ( use the symlinks )
[19:44] <EriC^^> those should point to the newest kernel
[19:45] <RoadRunner> how often are kernels updated?
[19:45] <RoadRunner> on average...
[19:46] <EriC^^> once every 1-2weeks maybe?
[19:46] <wafflejock> EriC^^: TIL thanks good to know
[19:46] <k1l> RoadRunner: if there are issues like security issues or bugs. like every 2 weeks.
[19:46] <RoadRunner> then doing it manually every time is silly...
[19:47] <EriC^^> wafflejock: what's TIL ?
[19:47] <RoadRunner> sorry, back in 15 min
[19:47] <wafflejock> oh sorry today I learned... think it's a reddit acronym or something
[19:47] <EriC^^> oh ok :D
[19:51] <ToBeCloud> EriC^^: very useful: urbandictionary.com :)
[19:52] <EriC^^> yup :)
[19:52] <ToBeCloud> (I hate most acronyms because the time saved writing is wasted on the receiving side by looking up the unusual combination of characters)
[19:53] <ToBeCloud> Omfg gtg bbl ppl lol
[19:53] <ToBeCloud> No H8 M8!
[19:55] <CookieM> #include urban.h
[19:56] <ToBeCloud> Warning: liburban is dangerous and should not be used
[19:58] <chump> Hi
[19:58] <wafflejock> hi chump
[19:58] <chump> I have an issue maybe someone can help with.
[19:59] <wafflejock> chump: sure what's the issue try to explain what you're trying to do what you've done and where you're at so we have an idea of what the issue may be (release info helps too lsb_release -a at the terminal)
[20:00] <chump> I have a tower recently built to run linux with amd apu with radeon r7  a8 7600,  plus a large unknown graphics card radeon
[20:00] <chump> I am using ubuntu 15  the latest
[20:01] <chump> and I do not quite know how to install firmware for this
[20:01] <bekks> chump: So you are using 15.10 and need to find out which graphic card you have?
[20:01] <floka> when program is placed in the background does it still running?
[20:01] <bekks> And the card needs a driver, no firmware.
[20:01] <floka> I see on the prompt it says stopped
[20:01] <EriC^^> floka: yeah
[20:01] <chump> well I would guess the mobo would work better
[20:01] <bekks> chump: With what?
[20:01] <EriC^^> floka: how'd you put it into the background?
[20:02] <EriC^^> ctrl+z just suspends it
[20:02] <bobby_> does anyone here have any software repository sites I can include for the Ubuntu Software Center, I accidentally deleted them all...
[20:02] <floka> ctrl+z
[20:02] <chump> but ,  amd site lists firmware for the  a8, for ubuntu 14.04, not fifteen
[20:02] <EriC^^> floka: you need to type bg after that
[20:02] <floka> after I 've pressed ctrl+z?
[20:02] <chump> I guess you are saying not to worry
[20:02] <chump> synaptics lists that ther should be two pieces of properitary software
[20:03] <EriC^^> floka: yeah
[20:03] <floka> ok
[20:03] <garro> Hi! I have a problem with the manual configuring and installing of a piece of software. When I run configure it says "checking for g_signal_emit in -lgtk-x11-2.0... no" and returns a series of warnigs saying I'll  not have a GUI... Thank you for the help!
[20:03] <EriC^^> floka: or you can type <program> &
[20:03] <EriC^^> to background it straight away
[20:03] <floka> ok I will try
[20:03] <bekks> chump: Forget the AMD site, and use the drivers from "Additional drivers".
[20:03] <virgil_io>  /msg nickserv register Xlaq123<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:04] <chump> is that additional drivers from the synaptics
[20:04] <virgil_io> woops
[20:05] <virgil_io>  /msg nickserv register ZvRag123<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:05] <EriC^^> *facepalm*
[20:05] <wafflejock> garro: looks like you need this maybe http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgtk2.0-dev&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[20:05] <virgil_io> I don't get this.
[20:05] <EriC^^> virgil_io: don't put a space at the start
[20:05]  * gr33nbits facedesk
[20:05] <wafflejock> garro: https://github.com/polachok/gtk-vikb/issues/2
[20:05] <virgil_io> lol
[20:05] <virgil_io> ok.
[20:06] <stormmore> maybe a crazy question of the day... is there an easy to remove all packages that are not required for a basic ssh server?
[20:06] <garro> wafflejock: I got it
[20:06] <wafflejock> garro: you mean you already had it and still have that error?
[20:07] <garro> wafflejock: yes
[20:07] <garro> wafflejock: also set $usegtk to 1
[20:08] <virgil_io> thanks EriC^^
[20:08] <EriC^^> no problem
[20:09] <wafflejock> garro: wonder if maybe the thing you're trying to build needs the i386 version of the package instead of x64 or something, not sure though what're you trying to manually configure and build if I may ask?
[20:10] <garro> wafflejock:Maybe. I'm trying to install i8086emu
[20:14] <Welastevil> hi guis!
[20:14] <wafflejock> garro: yeah not sure can try the apt-get with package:i386 to get the x86 versions and see if that works, could be related seeing as how it's an emulator for 8086 procs but not sure what to check out if that doesn't do it for ya, know you can ldd on a file to see shared libs but not sure with the source where exactly to look
[20:14] <reisio> hai guy
[20:14] <Welastevil> Im trying to install ubunto from an USB... but the thing is: there is no option in the BIOS for USB
[20:15] <bekks> Welastevil: then you cant boot from USB.
[20:15] <Welastevil> there is just floppy, hard drive and optical drivwe
[20:15] <bekks> Welastevil: Those are your installation options then.
[20:15] <Welastevil> I see
[20:15] <reisio> Welastevil: try the boot menu, tap f12/esc/del repeatedly during bootup
[20:16] <Welastevil> if the disk imnage is already in my HD...it is prossible to install from there?
[20:16] <reisio> Welastevil: yeah, technically
[20:16] <garro> wafflejock: I undersand! Thank you anyway.
[20:17] <wafflejock> Welastevil: would go with reisio on this try the boot menu if possible
[20:17] <Welastevil> so how to install it from my HD?
[20:17] <wafflejock> Welastevil: getting to the moon is also possible :) "we do these things not because they are easy but because they are hard"
[20:17] <Welastevil> I tryed the boot menu, and no option for USB
[20:17] <reisio> well, we do them because we think soviet russia will kill us for no particular reason :p
[20:18] <Welastevil> yes! agree waffejock)))
[20:18] <Welastevil> hahahaha
[20:18] <popey> Welastevil: how old is this computer?
[20:18] <wafflejock> hehe
[20:18] <reisio> Welastevil: no CD handy?
[20:18] <Welastevil> Im living in Russia by the way
[20:18] <Welastevil> nope
[20:18] <popey> Welastevil: it sounds like something which probably wouldn't run Ubuntu anyway.
[20:18] <Welastevil>  my CD drive doesnt work
[20:18] <reisio> I hear the women are female
[20:18] <popey> If it's so old it won't boot off USB, it probably isn't powerful enough
[20:19] <Welastevil> yeah... it is
[20:19] <reisio> Welastevil: you can boot from the image already on the disk, but it's not fun
[20:19] <Welastevil> I already have ubuntu installed...I wanted to reinstalll\
[20:19] <Welastevil> there is no way to "rewset" it as in a mac I think/...
[20:19] <ubuntu_nooob> i cant install flash on ubuntu mate 15.10... i have searched all over internet but nothing seems to help... I see it installed but Opera and Firefox keeps ignoring it
[20:20] <ubuntu_nooob> any idea?
[20:20] <bekks> !flash | ubuntu_nooob
[20:20] <Welastevil> In my mac, I can just use the RESET option, and it reinstall itself
[20:20] <gQuigs> does anyone have video chats working in empathy on 16.04?
[20:20] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: btw, ctrl+x saves the changes (in grub) or starts the reboot?
[20:21] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: it boots the menu
[20:21] <ubuntu_nooob> tnx bekks and ubottu
[20:21] <ubuntu_nooob> let me try and i will inform you about the result
[20:21] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: could you explain a little more: "you could put linux /vmlinuz and initrd /initrd.img ( use the symlinks )"
[20:22] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: in the lines that say linux /boot/vmlinuz-3..... you could put linux /vmlinuz instead
[20:22] <Rave1> Welastevil,  plop boot manager can force a boot from USB on a machine that otherwise could not but best to just burn to a DVD and be done with it
[20:23] <Welastevil> Rave1.
[20:23] <Welastevil> how to do it?
[20:23] <NetworkingPro> Hey everyone
[20:23] <Welastevil> how to uise pop boot manager?
[20:23] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: /vmlinuz and /initrd.img are symlinks that point to the kernel in /boot , type ls -l /vmlinuz and it should show what it's symlinked to
[20:23] <Welastevil> how to use I mean
[20:23] <NetworkingPro> I have ubuntu 14.04 - I installed along side Windows 10. I see that my windows 10 partitions are still in tact, but GRUB  doesnt show a boot option for it.
[20:24] <NetworkingPro> Is there an easy way to add it to grub?
[20:24] <RoadRunner> EriC^^: which file are these lines in again?
[20:24] <Rave1> Welastevil,  download the program place image on CD or floppy
[20:24] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:24] <Welastevil> I see
[20:24] <RoadRunner> many thank's :)
[20:24] <Welastevil> I ahve none of  them... floopy or CD drive...so/// forget it
[20:25] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: you're going to need to copy the menu entry to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, sure np
[20:25] <Welastevil> there is a way just to delet all software except the OS?
[20:25] <Welastevil> like "renew" it?
[20:25] <Rave1> Welastevil,  so I have to ask how or who installed Ubuntu on that machine ?
[20:26] <Welastevil> it was installed in 2010. and that time the CD drive used to work)))
[20:26] <Rave1> ok
[20:26] <RoadRunner> now a diff question, is it possible to load some kernel module to utilize extra buttons on multibutton mice?
[20:27] <NetworkingPro> Nevermind... ugh
[20:27] <Jordan_U> Welastevil: GNU/Linux doesn't have any strict separation between what constitutes "software" and what constitutes "the OS". You can completely remove all GUI support from Ubuntu and still have an OS.
[20:27] <wafflejock> Welastevil: personally I use clonezilla for taking snapshots of my machines and then can restore from a bootable USB drive I set that up on to recover, some machines come with a recovery partition pre-installed to restore to the same image used from the factory for setting up the machine
[20:27] <NetworkingPro> appears it just overwrote all our stuff
[20:27] <Rave1> Welastevil,  new optical drive or the scrap pile are your options now... or learn to install from an image on the drive
[20:27] <Pici> /36/36
[20:28] <Jordan_U> Welastevil: Ubuntu does have an option in its installer to re-install while preserving your data in /home/ though.
[20:28] <Welastevil> how to install from image on drive?
[20:28] <wafflejock> Welastevil: you can configure grub on a partition and have it boot to that and can have grub get the iso running I'm pretty sure but it's not trivial
[20:28] <Rave1> Welastevil,  google knows it is a pain havent done that in years
[20:29] <Jordan_U> Welastevil: Don't have any USB drive available?
[20:29] <wafflejock> Welastevil: much easier to either get an external optical drive or some other way to boot off some media on that computer
[20:30] <Rave1> http://www.howtogeek.com/196933/how-to-boot-linux-iso-images-directly-from-your-hard-drive/
[20:31] <Welastevil> I see
[20:31] <Rave1> he says that old machine will not boot from USB so what good is any external USB drives of any kind
[20:31] <Welastevil> my HD is very olf...11 years now
[20:32] <Welastevil> previouslly it was "ok" with its only 80 giga
[20:32] <Welastevil> but now its too slow
[20:33] <faiz> hi
[20:34] <wafflejock> Welastevil: yea if you can throw like $70 USD at it you can get a SSD (~$50) and probably grab an optical drive (~$20) from e-bay or something if there's really no USB boot options and I'm sure you'd just be limited by the CPU and/or RAM at that point
[20:34] <RoadRunner> any advice on how to use "extra" buttons on mice under Ubuntu?
[20:35] <Rave1> and in lots of areas you can spend that 70 dollars and get a better used computer
[20:37] <ubuntu_nooob> hi all
[20:37] <ubuntu_nooob> i need help
[20:37] <ubuntu_nooob> please check this log
[20:38] <ubuntu_nooob> root@it:/home/it/Desktop# wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb --2016-03-10 20:34:51--  https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb Resolving dl.google.com (dl.google.com)... <IP_ADDRESS>, 2a00:1450:4008:803::200e Connecting to dl.google.com (dl.google.com)|<IP_ADDRESS>|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 48921974 (47
[20:38] <genii> !pastebin | ubuntu_nooob
[20:38] <ubuntu_nooob> and this
[20:38] <ubuntu_nooob> !pastebin
[20:39] <ubuntu_nooob> root@it:/home/it/Desktop# sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb dpkg: error processing archive google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb (--install):  package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386) Errors were encountered while processing:  google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[20:39] <ubuntu_nooob> where to find i386?
[20:40] <Rave1> ubuntu_nooob,  32 bit chrome is gone
[20:40] <ubuntu_nooob> i know that
[20:40] <wafflejock> ubuntu_nooob: can you just use chromium? https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/FoE6sL-p6oU
[20:40] <ubuntu_nooob> but how to install chrome?
[20:41] <ubuntu_nooob> chrome has embeded flash
[20:41] <Rave1> so why did you even ask where is i386 if you know it is no more
[20:41] <mabus> you can use chromium you just wont be able to use some drm functionality like netflix
[20:41] <ubuntu_nooob> because i cant instal amd64
[20:41] <nicomachus> mabus: you can use netflix with pepperflash
[20:42] <Rave1> ubuntu_nooob,  so use chromium
[20:42] <mabus> oh well gee wish someone told me that last week.
[20:42] <nicomachus> mabus: Google would have, quickly.
[20:42] <mabus> it didnt
[20:42] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:42] <Rave1> mabus I tried to tell you a few days ago
[20:42] <mabus> it gives a lot of outdated fixes, as new changes have rendered previous fixes obsolete
[20:42] <mabus> no you didn't, you told me to install the .deb
[20:42] <mabus> for the 64 bit chrome
[20:43] <Rave1> the .deb  of 64 bit chrome
[20:43] <mabus> yes
[20:43] <mabus> 15:41 < nicomachus> mabus: you can use netflix with pepperflash
[20:43] <Rave1> or chromium
[20:43] <mabus> this is the information thats new to me
[20:45] <jushur> install google-chrome repo, install google-chrome. enable unsafe gpu accel in chrome://flags  , and you have lagfree netflix
[20:48] <jushur> oh and you cant run metflix on i386
[20:48] <jushur> m/n
[20:49] <nicomachus> why are so many of these "True" instead of "Xenial"? https://paste.ubuntu.com/15343509/
[20:51] <wiblash> hey guys, i got a kubuntu boot bug... can anybody help me ? http://imgur.com/a/xsL1L
[20:51] <wiblash> after all i get an black screen with the information i should see the logs or reboot
[20:51] <sruli> a 80gb file disappeared from my home dir, no clue how, problem is, my home dir is ecryptfs and my system is luks, i guess that rules out conventional recovery, is there a way i can try to recover while booted in a live system?
[20:51] <bekks> wiblash: you dont have a boot bug, you have a broken device sdc.
[20:53] <wiblash> bekks okey because if i boot into the recovery and make an dpgk i can boot without problems for one time, how can i fix this perm ?
[20:53] <bekks> wiblash: By replacing the broken device.
[20:54] <bekks> wiblash: No need for a query.
[20:54] <wafflejock> wiblash: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141862/is-this-drive-failure-or-something-else some things about getting more diagnostics on the drive but seems like bekks is on it there
[20:54] <bekks> I/O error on block xyz == device is broken.
[20:55] <wiblash> okey thanks guys !
[21:02] <Bobzone> exit
[21:04] <radioboy> woosah
[21:04] <gr33nbits> question: you guys do anything special when using ssd's on ubuntu?
[21:04] <radioboy> solid state hard drives?  no
[21:04] <Alastor2262> no
[21:05] <phil42> fstrim -v /
[21:05] <phil42> fairly oftem
[21:05] <radioboy> what do you mean different?
[21:05] <bekks> trim is detected and used automatically.
[21:05] <phil42> often
[21:05] <bekks> phil42: In recent versions of Ubuntu :)
[21:05] <gr33nbits> yeh ive a 850 evo and everything is working perfect just wanted to know if there was any tips or tricks
[21:05] <bekks> gr33nbits: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[21:05] <gr33nbits> had 12.04 updated to 14.04
[21:06] <gr33nbits> a while ago
[21:06] <bekks> gr33nbits: So you are using 14.04
[21:06] <phil42> i swap aggressively on an ssd
[21:06] <gr33nbits> bekks, yes
[21:06] <gr33nbits> i changed swapiness to 10
[21:06] <bekks> phil42: Upgrade your RAM ;)
[21:06] <phil42> do-nothing desktop is currently 234M into swap
[21:07] <bekks> phil42: Which isnt really much, and depends on a lots of factors, including vm.swappiness
[21:07] <gr33nbits> it rarely goes to the swap, when i run vm's yeh but as soon i finish i sudo swapoff -a && swapon -a
[21:08] <bekks> gr33nbits: No need to do that.
[21:08] <phil42> why?  every M in swap if free memory
[21:08] <phil42> is free
[21:08] <gr33nbits> bekks, oh okis nice to know
[21:08] <bekks> phil42: www.linuxatemyram.com
[21:09] <gr33nbits> i know that samsun magician is available for linux but they only thing i want to monitor is temp and i can do that with hddtemp, so thanks for the info no need to do nothing just keep on rocking like it is
[21:09] <phil42> free as in beer
[21:09] <bekks> Free as in unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[21:10] <phil42> free as in if it's in ram when it could be in swap it's wasted
[21:11] <bekks> phil42: You got the idea of swap horribly wrong.
[21:11] <nacc> that made no sense to me
[21:11] <gr33nbits> maybe i do too, explain please bekks
[21:11] <nacc> phil42: nearly anthing "could be in swap" ... but things should only reside in swap when "better" things can reside in memory to evict them to swap
[21:12] <bekks> gr33nbits: You always want as much RAM to be used as you have - but you want swap tp be used only if an application could not be started without swapping things out.
[21:12] <gr33nbits> i had the idea that i shouldn't use to much swap on ssd that's why i changed swappiness to 10
[21:12] <gr33nbits> oh then i get it
[21:13] <bekks> gr33nbits: that was the case about a decade ago :) Nowadyas, you dont have to be worried about that.
[21:13] <gr33nbits> bekks,  okis thanks a bunch
[21:14] <gvpm> hey, anybody on?
[21:14] <mabus> i remember reading somewhere that your ssd should die from many other things before it has to worry about finite amount of writes
[21:14] <bekks> mabus: thats correct nowadays.
[21:14] <bekks> gvpm: according to "/names", yes.
[21:15] <karen_> Hi, guys  I'm having troubles updating. I get this message: "couldn't fetch the package cache information list" What should I do?
[21:16] <Rave1> karen_,  first off are you using a current supported version of ubuntu
[21:17] <karen_> This is in linux-lite which receives all commands like ubuntu. Also, when i go to "lite software" it says, "Refer to /var/log/lite-softweare.log for more information.
[21:18] <karen_> I am using the newest upgrade, Linux-lite 2.8.
[21:18] <phil42> karen_ are  you running the 32 bit version of chrome?   that is no longer supported
[21:18] <karen_> no I am using the 64 bit.
[21:18] <phil42> just checking
[21:18] <Rave1> yes that has been a huge issue of late
[21:19] <karen_> It gets stuck somewhere around the "ubuntu translation..."
[21:19] <gvpm> quit
[21:19] <Rave1> well I think lite was based on 1404 lts so it should be ok unless you got repos mixed up
[21:19] <phil42> here's a linux-lite post about it    www.linuxliteos.com/forums/other/2-4-update-issue/
[21:19] <karen_> oh awesome, phil42
[21:21] <Ben64> linux lite isn't supported here, check with their support forum at https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/
[21:21] <karen_> i'll look there. thanks!
[21:40] <ulyzze> DHCP fails and I can't even ping my DHCP server, how can I debug this?
[21:41] <bekks> for pinging it, you need to have a valid IP.
[21:42] <MatroskaText> help
[21:42] <ulyzze> bekks: I'm pining my router in lan
[21:42] <bekks> ulyzze: And you still need to have a valid IP address for being able to ping it.
[21:42] <MatroskaText> i have a mkv file and cant play it because the video player thinks it is a text file
[21:43] <ulyzze> bekks:  i set in /interfaces auto dhcp
[21:43] <ulyzze> how can i get an ip?
[21:43] <bekks> ulyzze: you need to manually configure it, for pinging your dhcp server.
[21:43] <ulyzze> why can't i ping my dhcp server though?
[21:44] <bekks> Because you dont have a valid IP address.
[21:44] <squinty> MatroskaText,  nautilus -> highlight file name -> properties - open with
[21:44] <stormmore> lol what an apt time to look in on channel, just about to “test” my interfaces file
[21:45] <MatroskaText> squinty what?
[21:45] <kburk> ulyzze:  https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[21:46] <MatroskaText> I open a fi
[21:46] <weirddude> daftykins
[21:46] <MatroskaText> I open a MKV file in Totem, error :Can't play a text file without video or visualizations.  Please help...
[21:47] <stormmore> the scariest thing about the interface file is when you either restart networking or reboot and hope to god you don’t have a typo in the file
[21:47] <kburk> ulyzze: use 'ifconfig' to check your interface.  set an ip which is in the same network as your dhcp server and try pinging.
[21:47] <royal_lts> hello guys maybe someone can help me? i`m just installed ubuntu 16.04 and i cannot install grub-customizer
[21:48] <royal_lts> nobody can help me???
[21:48] <nacc> royal_lts: ak in #ubuntu+1, iirc
[21:50] <kburk> ulyzze: you could try getting an ip by running 'sudo dhclient eth0'  (replace eth0 with your interface name)
[21:50] <MatroskaText> ....is anyone here who can help me?
[21:51] <ulyzze> kburk: i get destination host unreachable
[21:51] <MatroskaText> over DM or something?
[21:51] <kburk> ulyzze: ok, try running the dhclient command i provided
[21:52] <ulyzze> kburk: already tried that
[21:52] <ulyzze> dhcp fails
[21:53] <MatroskaText> ...... Any help pls
[21:53] <Rave1> royal_lts,  and that is a beta release should everything work as it should?
[21:53] <kburk> ulyzze: what ip address do you have?  'ifconfig' will show you if you have one.
[21:53] <ulyzze> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:53] <kburk> and what is the ip address of your dhcp server?
[21:54] <ulyzze> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:55] <kburk> ok, you cant ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:55] <ulyzze> i get destination host unreachable
[21:55] <kburk> try running the command 'arp <IP_ADDRESS>'
[21:56] <ulyzze> address: <IP_ADDRESS> HWtyep: ether HWaddress:--- Flags: C  Mask n/a Iface: eth0
[21:57] <kburk> ok, so it didnt see a mac address in the HWaddress field?
[21:57] <ulyzze> it did, i scrubbed it
[21:57] <kburk> ok cool
[21:57] <MatroskaText> now help me plz
[21:58] <kburk> run the command 'route'.  do you see an entry for <IP_ADDRESS>    <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:58] <ulyzze> yes
[21:58] <kburk> using interface eth0
[21:58] <kburk> ?
[21:58] <ulyzze> the gatesway is *
[21:59] <ulyzze> wait
[21:59] <Rave1> MatroskaText,   have you tried any other media players ie VLC is a good all round player
[21:59] <ulyzze> default: <IP_ADDRESS> GW: * Genmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:59] <MatroskaText> vlc isnt working
[22:00] <kburk> other computers behind this router are working fine?
[22:00] <ulyzze> yes
[22:00] <ulyzze> how can i see the router "sees" it from its side?
[22:00] <MatroskaText> Totem plays webm and so on ... but totem thinks mkv is a text file ( what the hell)
[22:00] <ulyzze> the LED is on
[22:01] <mau_> Hi
[22:01] <ulyzze> other than that i can't tell it is
[22:01] <mau_> I've been having trouble updating software
[22:01] <mau_> through the terminal
[22:01] <mau_> http://imgur.com/keaC43I
[22:03] <MatroskaText> HERE should be a system like "please pull a number and wait if you are called"
[22:03] <kburk> which port do you have it plugged into on this router?  you would have to login to the routers web interface to check if it sees it.  did you statically assign <IP_ADDRESS> to your pc or was that assigned by dhcp?
[22:04] <Rave1> MatroskaText,  older posts talk of installing restricted extras
[22:04] <squinty> MatroskaText,  this channel is manned by volunteers not paid staff.  if no answer try in 10 minutes or so
[22:04] <ulyzze> kburk: i statically assigned that
[22:04] <ulyzze> as in the ubuntu guide
[22:04] <Rave1> MatroskaText,   more codecs and such
[22:04] <ulyzze> like this:  sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:05] <ulyzze> sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> eth0
[22:05] <MatroskaText> EVERY codec installed Rave1
[22:05] <tgm4883> MatroskaText: Maybe there is something wrong with the MKV file?
[22:05] <kburk> ah ok.  that helps.  yep, that's correct.  so these were the commands you used exaclty?   'sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>' and 'sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>'
[22:06] <kburk> that last command includes eth0 (missed that)
[22:06] <Rave1> MatroskaText,  than all I can say is corupted files , really dont know sorry never seen that before
[22:06] <ulyzze> kburk: yes
[22:06] <tgm4883> kburk: ulyzze have you attempted to get an IP address from the DHCP server?
[22:06] <ulyzze> tgm4883: of course... fails
[22:07] <ulyzze> dhclient eth0
[22:07] <tgm4883> ulyzze: is the DHCP server a server you setup, or a router of some sorts?
[22:07] <kburk> ulyzze: are you sure that the ip <IP_ADDRESS> is not already in use by another computer connected to that router?
[22:07] <ulyzze> tgm4883: it's a router
[22:07] <tgm4883> ulyzze: can you try a different port on the router?
[22:08] <ulyzze> i'll try another ip
[22:08] <tgm4883> no, not another IP
[22:08] <tgm4883> another physical port
[22:09] <docmur> I have two mail servers, one with 30 GB's of mail and the other with maybe 1GB of mail.  The mail boxes on both servers are the same, so we want to rsync form the source (MX1) to the destination (MX2) Using Rsync, it's easy to send the mail from MX1 to MX2, however we also want the new 1GB of mail to get remove, can rsync do this in go?
[22:09] <tgm4883> also, I'd rather see some configuration in the network file, but I won't step on kburk's toes here
[22:09] <kburk> dhclient should be working, so statically assigning a diff ip may not help.  diff physical port is a pretty good idea.  also, you could try connecting a diff computer to the cable and see if it works.
[22:09] <ulyzze> not working with another ip
[22:09] <ulyzze> tgm4883: i'll try that
[22:09] <bekks> docmur: Yes, rsync -av --delete
[22:10] <kburk> tgm4883: no problem, not stepping on toes.  i do need to step away shortly so please feel free to help.
[22:10] <ulyzze> another pc is working alreayd
[22:10] <ulyzze> looks like i assigned manually the wrong port, router starts from 100
[22:10] <tgm4883> ulyzze: we mean either A) hooking another PC up to the same cable and seeing if it pulls an IP address or B) hooking this pc up to a different port on the router
[22:11] <ulyzze> tgm4883: i'll do that now
[22:11] <bekks> Port 100?
[22:11] <snowgoggles> MatroskaText: what's your codec issue matroska i presume?
[22:11] <kburk> i think he means the ip range of the dhcp server starts at .100 (please correct me if im wrong ulyzze)
[22:11] <ulyzze> Start IP Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:11] <tgm4883> ulyzze: personally, I like A since it lets us find out if it's a config issue or an issue from the wire onward
[22:12] <tgm4883> ulyzze: that shouldn't really matter. That's just where it will start giving out IP addresses.
[22:12] <tgm4883> ulyzze: for static addresses, you actually putting it below 100 was correct
[22:13] <kburk> ulyzze: using an ip below .100 (ex: like you did with .23) will work fine.  actually if we are statically assigning ip's then using this is good as we wont use an ip that's already in use.
[22:16] <enki_> Sorry for my brutal intrusion: has some of you backbox 4.4 installed? (... and sorry for my english...)
[22:18] <ulyzze> i did a service networking restart and i can ping the router now
[22:18] <ulyzze> how can i set dhcp to work automatically then? i don't understand what was wrong
[22:18] <tgm4883> ulyzze: what did you change?
[22:19] <ulyzze> tgm4883: i did lots of things... ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>  and route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> eth0 included
[22:19] <tgm4883> ulyzze: what IP address did it get?
[22:19] <ulyzze> a dynamic one
[22:19] <tgm4883> ulyzze: when you did the ifconfig commands. Did you actually use <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:21] <ulyzze> ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:21] <ulyzze> i'll reboot to see that dhcp is working
[22:23] <ulyzze> working!
[22:24] <tgm4883> ulyzze: cool
[22:24] <ulyzze> i don't understand why it didn't work
[22:24] <ulyzze> what did i change?
[22:24] <ulyzze> i don't think i changed anything
[22:24] <stormmore> well my interface file bite me in the ass!
[22:24] <tgm4883> ulyzze: IDK
[22:24] <kburk> right on, glad to hear it's working
[22:25] <ulyzze> kburk, tgm4883: TY
[22:25] <kburk> np :)
[22:25] <ulyzze> I'd rather go through manual config work than use Win10...
[22:26] <tgm4883> yw
[22:27] <stormmore> with some of the more complex network configs with vlans, etc. i am not so sure
[22:35] <dillon> guys, I am trying to play a .mkv video file and "videos" gives me error message: Required plugin could not be found Videos requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: video/x-unknown decoder  so I downloaded vlc media player (i like it better anyway) and vlc gives me error message "No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "hevc".  Unfortunately there is no way for you to
[22:35] <dillon> fix this.  However I played the exact same video file on the same machine (before I re-installed ubuntu) and it worked fine.  What am I doing wrong?
[22:37] <wafflejock> dillon: perhaps when you installed before you hit the checkbox to get extra codecs during install and this time you didn't?
[22:38] <wafflejock> dillon: perhaps this post will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/171026/how-to-install-all-existing-media-codecs
[22:38] <dillon> I did, I went to the software center and checked all of the boxes, I even went back into the software center to double check
[22:40] <dillon> wafflejock when I type in the second command on that page with the terminal command I get error message: END PGP  PUBLIC KEY BLOCK
[22:42] <wafflejock> dillon: strange looks like the PGP comes back if I just run Curl on that URL so not missing not sure what exactly that error indicates though
[22:42] <willmore> Is there a good place to find out about the state of gcc as used by Ubuntu for different architectures?  I'm looking at Aarch64 in particular.  It seems that Ubuntu is using the Linaro version of gcc and not mainline gcc.  Is there somewhere I can go to to see what the plans are to move to newer versions?  I'm looking at xenial in this case.
[22:44] <nacc> willmore: i think all gcc are built from teh same source pacakge, no? http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/gcc-defaults
[22:44] <nacc> willmore: and you might want to take xenial questions to #ubuntu+1
[22:44] <willmore> nacc, thanks for the advice!
[22:44] <wafflejock> dillon: the alternative advice/answers given there don't seem to require adding any extra repositories though so maybe try that first instead
[22:45] <nacc> willmore: ah and sorry, the package i referred to above *may* be the cross compilers
[22:45] <nacc> willmore: not sure
[22:45] <wafflejock> dillon: once you start adding third party PPAs into the mix can have bad times with packages built and tested by different people getting mixed on your system
[22:46] <wafflejock> and no support here at that point really since it's all unknown what might be in those packages or what issues might crop up due to whatever was compiled into the package
[22:46] <Jtackar> Anyone here who can help me...
[22:47] <genii> !details | Jtackar
[22:47] <Jtackar> Ubuntu 14.04.4 isn't able to use apt-get to download updates
[22:48] <bekks> Jtackar: For me, it is.
[22:48] <wafflejock> Jtackar: what do you run what do you see back?
[22:48] <Jtackar> as in, when I ping there's no connection at all, yet I'm running via ethernet
[22:48] <wafflejock> Jtackar: what are you pinging, need specifics as much as possible
[22:48] <k1l> Jtackar: are you using a proxy?
[22:49] <Jtackar> Nope, no proxy. I've tried pinging both www.google.com and google's DNS <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:49] <Jtackar> to no avail
[22:49] <wafflejock> Jtackar: okay so sounds like network issue not apt-get issue
[22:49] <wafflejock> can you ping anything on your LAN from that machine is it totally disconnected from the internet?
[22:49] <kburk> Jtackar: can you ping your router?  do you have an IP?
[22:50] <k1l> Jtackar: can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"
[22:50] <stormmore> anyone see any errors in https://bpaste.net/show/5b5c65b1d5b3? been awhile since I did vlans under Ubuntu like this
[22:50] <Jtackar> Ok, btw, when I login to Ubuntu it freezes seconds after login and I can only move the mouse, this happened to me before and it was due to Nvidia drivers, which I then updated via recovery mode in the GRUB root shell
[22:50] <Jtackar> which is what i'm attempting to do now, however this network issue it problematic
[22:51] <Jtackar> How would I find out my IP?
[22:52] <stormmore> Jtackar: /sbin/ifconfig
[22:52] <smoker05> hey guys
[22:52] <Jtackar> Ok, I'll have to restart to do this, so I'll try grab as much info as possible, what else should I do...and how am I going to copy that text?
[22:52] <stormmore> get route too
[22:52] <k1l> Jtackar: wait
[22:53] <smoker05> I just followed this site to install wine, and after putting all that, i cant find wine on my computer. https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[22:53] <k1l> Jtackar: you said "but ethernet works" so why dont you just join here from that 14.04 system?
[22:53] <Jtackar> Because it freezes after loging due to my Nvidia drivers, which I need to update via root shell...however I can't do that because the root shell wont update
[22:54] <Jtackar> it gets stuck at 0% working
[22:54] <Jtackar> and failes to reach extras.ubuntu.com
[22:54] <k1l> Jtackar: that is a total different issue/setup then
[22:55] <Jtackar> I didn't have this problem with 12.04, think it would be a good idea to burn a fresh 12.04, install that and drivers etc, then update to 14?
[22:55] <bekks> Jtackar: Which will give you a 14.04, and the same problems.
[22:56] <Jtackar> If I have the drivers downloaded though my 14.04 shouldn't freeze then?
[22:56] <bekks> Jtackar: Drivers for 12.04 are different from drivers for 14.04
[22:56] <k1l> Jtackar: you loaded the drivers from the nvidia site?
[22:56] <Jtackar> Nope, how would I do that?
[22:56] <stormmore> why can’t you boot to a non gui runlevel where you nvidia drivers don’t matter
[22:56] <Jtackar> brb
[22:57] <k1l> Jtackar: ok. what nvidia card is that?
[22:59] <smoker05> any idea, why I cannot see wine ? https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[22:59] <smoker05> I just followed those commands to install.
[22:59] <k1l> smoker05: where is the issue? was there any output? was there an error?
[22:59] <smoker05> no, error.
[22:59] <smoker05> something 300mb downloaded.
[22:59] <smoker05> but no error.
[23:00] <smoker05> I rebooted my pc, so I can't paste the output.
[23:00] <k1l> and now? you want to start wine? what is the issue?
[23:00] <smoker05> i cant find wine.
[23:00] <smoker05> in search
[23:01] <smoker05> oh wait wait
[23:01] <smoker05> m being dumbl
[23:01] <Jtackar> The nvidia card is a GTX 460
[23:03] <Jtackar> I'm going to restart, try run apt-get from shell and tell you guys the errors I'm getting, thanks
[23:07] <kolbasz> can I install cinnamon DE from the software center or is it better to add the custom PPAs?
[23:07] <kolbasz> whats best
[23:07] <k1l> !info cinnamon kolbasz
[23:07] <k1l> !info cinnamon | kolbasz
[23:10] <kolbasz> how does one install it, apt-get or software center
[23:10] <k1l> kolbasz: apt-get uses the same background magic as software-center.
[23:11] <kolbasz> k1l: but looking online it says to add special PPAs for cinammon, but yet it is in the software center.  is there a difference in the versions?
[23:11] <kolbasz> just want to install the latest
[23:12] <k1l> kolbasz: so that is your answer: you said you want the PPA so use the PPA.
[23:12] <k1l> kolbasz: cinnamon is in the ubuntu repos for 15.10. so you could use that.
[23:13] <kolbasz> yes, thats what I thought, but it seemed to contradict the internet so I thought to ask before proceeding
[23:13] <k1l> kolbasz: just be aware with the PPAs. some make your system an actual mint, since they include a lot more than only cinnamon
[23:13] <kolbasz> thanks!  Ill use what is in the software center
[23:13] <kolbasz> oh really
[23:14] <kolbasz> i dont want that, just the DE
[23:14] <kolbasz> k1l: since I am always curious, what DE do you use?
[23:14] <k1l> unity.
[23:15] <kolbasz> ah.  I just loaded things up, so new to the ubuntu unity game
[23:16] <kolbasz> just know i was using gnome and cinnamon on arch before
[23:16] <Jtackar> Hello my name's Jtackar, you may remember from such films as "The Man Who Forgot to Allow Networking in GRUB"
[23:19] <netameta> how can you serch for file throw terminal ?
[23:20] <stormmore> netameta: depends how you want to search
[23:28] <bluefive> Hey guys.
[23:28] <bluefive> When would I notice 3 MB of processor cache vs 2 MB?
[23:28] <k1l> bluefive: look at the benchmarks
[23:28] <bluefive> k11, Can't benchmark cache because when the cache changes other processorr components change as well.
[23:29] <SkepticalParrot> I'm signed into my ubuntu server... and fsr... I cannot play music. I have cmus opened, but when I play a song, I don't hear anything.
[23:29] <bluefive> k1l: The 5005U processor seems about equal to the 3805U processor in single-thread performance.
[23:29] <SkepticalParrot> Is there something I can do?
[23:29] <bluefive> k1l: But it excels in multi-thread performance and has 1 MB more cache.
[23:29] <bluefive> k1l: I wonder if I would notice these things.
[23:29] <dax> ask ##hardware
[23:29] <k1l> bluefive: thats more a question for ##hardware and yep. benchmarks
[23:30] <dax> also
[23:30] <dax> !crossposting
[23:30] <bluefive> dax: You are the one who told me to come here.
[23:30] <dax> which expands well to "Ubuntu and Debian channels" fwiw
[23:30] <dax> bluefive: nobody told you to come here
[23:30] <bluefive> You said my question was for the support channel.
[23:30] <dax> we said ##hardware, and you posted in here and #debian instead
[23:30] <bluefive> I first asked in offtopic.
[23:30] <OneM_Industries> For a support channel.
[23:31] <OneM_Industries> Go to #hardware.
[23:31] <dax> bluefive: no, I didn't
[23:35] <Pac> vv
[23:35] <klz> salve
[23:48] <SkepticalParrot> Anybody out there?
[23:48] <Anthony-L> sudo rm /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2.0
[23:48] <Anthony-L> am i doing something wrong with that?
[23:51] <bluefive> When I installed Ubuntu it offered the option of encryrpting the drive. Which kind of encryption was it using?
[23:54] <bekks> bluefive: it offered you to encryppt your home using ecryptfs
[23:54] <nacc> Anthony-L: ENOCONTEXT ... what are you wanting to know?
[23:54] <nacc> Anthony-L: generally, it's not a good idea to delete system libraries, though
[23:55] <bluefive> bekks: Does that take advantage of AESNI?
[23:57] <bekks> bluefive: If your hardware supports it, and the module is loaded, yes.
[23:58] <bluefive> bekks: Does that mean encryptfs uses AES?
[23:59] <Rush2112> hi guys, this might not be the right place to ask but i don't know where else i'd ask. i want to install Win10 on my laptop that's running Ubuntu. Is there anything special I'd have to do to ensure all traces of Ubuntu are wiped, and all my partitions or whatever are running at maximum capacity?


[14:32] <cpaelzer_> meeting time
[14:33] <cpaelzer_> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[14:33] <cpaelzer_> sarnold: ddstreet: doko: didrocks: jamespage: ping for MIR meeting
[14:33] <cpaelzer_> no actions of last week to discuss
[14:34] <cpaelzer_> #topic current component mismatches
[14:34] <cpaelzer_> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[14:34] <cpaelzer_> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[14:34] <cpaelzer_> due to the freezes - no changes at this
[14:34] <doko> o/
[14:34] <sarnold> good morning
[14:34] <cpaelzer_> the one thing there is that a few are "promotable"
[14:34] <cpaelzer_> opensbi and u-boot-menu are
[14:34] <cpaelzer_> security review was completed, and I mvoed their state forward
[14:35] <cpaelzer_> doko would you mind to later promote those two now that they are ready ?
[14:35] <cpaelzer_> that is
[14:35] <cpaelzer_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opensbi/+bug/1906668
[14:35] <cpaelzer_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-menu/+bug/1907284
[14:36] <cpaelzer_> nftables we discussed two weeks ago, there still nothing changed and it is on sarnold (for next cycle)
[14:36] <cpaelzer_> I'll also skip "new MIRs" as the list is empty today
[14:36] <cpaelzer_> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[14:37] <cpaelzer_> nor are there new entries in incomplete bugs
[14:37] <cpaelzer_> therefore we are almost at the end (this is a nice time in the cycle)
[14:37] <cpaelzer_> #topic Any other business?
[14:37] <cpaelzer_> open question to doko - to promote the two aforementioned packages
[14:37] <sarnold> none from me
[14:37] <doko> ok, will do
[14:37] <cpaelzer_> thank you
[14:38] <cpaelzer_> any open topic from you doko ?
[14:38] <doko> no
[14:38] <cpaelzer_> then enjoy this time, in 8 weeks it will be much more noisy here :-)
[14:38] <cpaelzer_> closing the meeting ...
[14:38] <sarnold> hehe;
[14:38] <cpaelzer_> #endmeeting
[14:38] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 14:38:44 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-03-30-14.33.moin.txt
[14:38] <sarnold> hehe; thanks cpaelzer_ and doko :)
[14:39] <utkarsh2102> a 6-minute meeting, awesome!
[14:39] <utkarsh2102> \o/
[15:03] <cpaelzer_> utkarsh2102: stalker :-P
[15:46] <utkarsh2102> hehe