[00:11] <daneshar> update manager shows this error how to fix it ?http://in.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric/universe Sources
[01:58] <RobertLaptop> question anyone else having an issue with aptitude listing most packages twice?
[02:20] <jmichaelx> RobertLaptop: i am not sure if this is the reason for what you are seeing, but as i understand it, aptitude doesn't really know how to deal with the whole multiarch deal
[02:23]  * aprol mutlu yarýnlaarrr
[02:37] <steve3> hello
[02:38] <steve3> im looking for some wifi help, can anyone help me?
[02:42] <steve3> Hello??
[06:19] <hansg01> is there any way to make the taskbar of kubuntu stable?
[06:20] <hansg01> i mean that it do not auto-hide?
[06:27] <hansg01> ?
[06:29] <Kimlaroux> hansg01, of course... it's in the setting of the bar
[06:30] <hansg01> Kimlaroux: can you please guide me i m new to KDE
[06:30] <Kimlaroux> when you say taskbar, you mean the whole bar on the bottom of the screen?
[06:30] <hansg01> Kimlaroux: yeah
[06:30] <Kimlaroux> okay, when the bar shows up, click on the round button on the right
[06:31] <Kimlaroux> the panel tool box should come up
[06:31] <hansg01> yeah
[06:31] <Kimlaroux> found it?
[06:32] <Kimlaroux> okay, click on the "More Settings" button, and chose Always Visible
[06:32] <hansg01> Kimlaroux, Thanks man!
[06:33] <hansg01> Kimlaroux, Can i ask one thing more?
[06:33] <Kimlaroux> if I can answer
[06:33] <Kimlaroux> but someone else might
[06:35] <hansg01> Kimlaroux, what is the panel alignment? what makes it to left or right or center?
[06:35] <hansg01> Kimlaroux, i couldn't see any change
[06:35] <Kimlaroux> That is because your panel takes the whole screen
[06:36] <Kimlaroux> if you make the panel shorter, then the alignment makes the panel touch either one end of the screen or centered
[07:04] <hansg01_> how to install Kslpash QML plugin?
[07:34] <kibble> sup
[10:23] <gener8> hi, today I was planning on going back to ubuntu after a long time of absence, as I've heard so many good things about kubuntu I grabbed a copy of that instead and started the installation procedure. I however ran into a problem while installing => it does not start an installation, it always ends up on the login screen (I think that's the demo)
[10:24] <gener8> I have tried a few things but I'm not sure where I should start to make the installation work, could someone give me some sort of hints/tips to look for problems?
[10:25] <gener8> I have f1'ed it as well, trying to see if there was some part of the stuff going on that I might be able to understand to solve this issue
[10:26] <gener8> but I didn't get much wiser out of that, the first print that I could see was "chroot: can't execute '/usr/lib/user-setup/user-setup-apply': input/output error", I'm guessing that's not supposed to happen, but why does it happen and how do I fix it?
[11:05] <stefan__> Hello all, is it possible to run all orchestra cloud services on one machine?
[11:34] <tonio> ciao
[11:35] <bsidb> any one know what is the function of kio_http? It occupies most of my CPU resources.
[11:39] <Torch> bsidb: it retrieves objects from the web via the http protocol, hence the name
[11:39] <Torch> bsidb: if once of the kio_http processes hangs with 100% cpu usage it should be safe to kill it
[11:40] <bsidb> Torch:Thank you ~ I always kill it when I find something occupies too much resource~
[11:43] <daniele>   hi guys, have a good sunday
[12:11] <_srp> hi, i recently upgraded from kubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. I'm facing some problems with akonadi. It just consumes all my processor. I'm running on a dual core.. and when akonadi is running, both the cores are utilized to almost 100%. it doesn't come down until i stop akonadi manually.. any solutions? any ideas? plz help...
[12:11] <knon> I need help with dual monitor setup NVIDIA 8800 1900X1200 DUAL WITH 1 SCREEN ROTATED
[12:11] <knon> anyone able to help?
[12:12] <knon> kubuntu 11.10
[12:14] <daniele> Have you changed the filesystem of some of your partitions from ext3 to ext4?
[12:14] <Torch> daniele: yes
[12:17] <daniele> might be Nepomuk, the file indexation (i don't knoe if this word is correct) with ext4 fs gives this problem
[12:17] <daniele> try to right-click on the nepomuk icon on the low-panel, and suspend the indexation
[12:20] <Peace-> apachelogger: ping
[12:41] <_srp> anyone reg. the akonadi prob i posted above ^^^?
[12:44] <Torch> _srp: there are lots of problems when upgrading with akonadi. i couldn't get it to work properly until i completely wiped all akonadi configuration stuff from my system and started with a clean state.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:56] <RocknRolla> how to update kde
[13:59] <RocknRolla> anyone help?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> RocknRolla,  update , or upgrade to new vewrsion? to upgrade run this command : sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports . For KDE testing of alpha or beta kde releases :sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/alpha( or beta)
[14:01] <RocknRolla> upgrade
[14:02] <Timurator> can anyone please point me in the direction of a good userguide for kde
[14:05] <RocknRolla> BluesKaj: i don't want update kubuntu
[14:05] <RocknRolla> i just nedd to upgrade KDE
[14:07] <BluesKaj> RocknRolla,  the repos name is kubuntu , the upgrade is kde ..and btw kubuntu is kde , mostly
[14:08] <BluesKaj> RocknRolla,  ithe K in kubuntu means ubuntu with the kde , desktop environment
[14:14] <RocknRolla> BluesKaj: i know
[14:15] <RocknRolla> but i cutomize my kubuntu with some specfic package
[14:15] <RocknRolla> and i'm using Backtrack 5
[14:15] <RocknRolla> with kde enviorment
[14:17] <marcel_> hello
[14:18] <RocknRolla> BluesKaj: ?
[14:29] <undefined0> how can i install my share printer from my windows pc?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> RocknRolla,  this not the chat for backtrack , for kde go to #kde or #backtrack
[14:29] <undefined0> shared*
[14:30] <BluesKaj> undefined0,  ask in #windows about networked printers
[14:31] <Torch> undefined0: to clarify, do you want to share a printer from windows or from linux? where's the printer connected?
[14:31] <undefined0> i'm using kubuntu 11.10 why do i need to go to #windows?
[14:31] <undefined0> the printer is connected to my windows pc
[14:32] <BluesKaj> undefined0,  you said install from windows
[14:32] <undefined0> i want to use it in kubuntu 11.10 via samba
[14:32] <undefined0> oh i'm sorry
[14:32] <apachelogger> Peace-: pong
[14:33] <BluesKaj> undefined0,  system settings > printer configuration > server settings
[14:36] <kroonrs> My cursor jumps in my terminal application in KDE.  One of my applications is curses based, I think, and instead of jumping there, it writes key-codes for the up-arrow key.  Not repeatable, it just seems to happen randomly.  KDE on lucid.
[14:36] <kroonrs> I have a laptop, but disabling the touchpad or using a USB keyboard doesn't stop it
[14:37] <kroonrs> any suggestions as to what to try the next time it happens to try track it down?
[14:39] <36DAAMID6> hi every body , do i have to move a file to able to make it executable ? bec. every time i make the file executable it return as it was ?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> 36DAAMID6,  open the file with click on properties with root permissions , then make it eexecutable
[14:43] <BluesKaj> oops ..kb needs cleaning
[14:43] <36DAAMID6> BluesKaj actually that what i do the problem is when i right click again i find it unmarked as before :S !!!
[14:44] <Sifrazooy> BluesKaj i am 36DAAMID6 i just signed in :D
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Sifrazooy, yes , I see
[14:45] <BluesKaj> what files are you trying to make exec , Sifrazooy ?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> kind of files
[14:45] <Sifrazooy> BluesKaj anyway do u have a sol. to my problem or i should move this file to my home file to be able to make it executable ?
[14:45] <Sifrazooy> BluesKaj .run
[14:46] <BluesKaj> ahh .run files are installation files , run them in the terminal with sudo
[14:47] <Sifrazooy> actually i did that too but it gave me Denied permission result !!!
[14:47] <BluesKaj> cd to the  .run file path or open the terminal in the folder where the .run file is located. Sifrazooy
[14:47] <Torch> Sifrazooy: this doesn't happen to be on a CD or on a mounted share?
[14:48] <Sifrazooy> Torch it is on my hard drive , in a mounted drive NTFS format
[14:48] <Torch> Sifrazooy: you can't make files on NTFS executable
[14:48] <Torch> Sifrazooy: i think ;-)
[14:48]  * Torch never tried.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> me neither , doubt that it'll work
[14:49] <Sifrazooy> Torch that will be a huge problem for me i don't have a space on Home drive :S
[14:50] <Torch> correction: i have no idea if you can change the execute bit on NTFS, my NTFS drives are all strictly mounted read-only.
[14:50] <Torch> Sifrazooy: are you sure the file system is mounted read-write?
[14:51] <Sifrazooy> Torch nope it is not made read-write
[14:51] <Sifrazooy> u mean  i can move it to a folder in my file system and try to do it
[14:52] <Torch> Sifrazooy: to change permissions, the file system the file is on has to support the permissions you want to set AND the file system must be writable
[14:54] <Sifrazooy> Torch ok thnx :D i will try to move it to my home drive or i might re-consider installing Kubuntu again bec. low memory thing it so annoying
[14:54] <BluesKaj> interesting how long it takes for ppl to tell us what the problem really is without giving important details like the fact that file is read only on a ntfs drive
[14:54] <Torch> BluesKaj: if they _knew_ this was crucial they wouldn't need to ask though ;-)
[14:55] <Sifrazooy> BluesKaj man i can read and write easly on my file system i was considering the root file :D
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Torch,  surely that fact alone is obvious
[14:56] <mozzy> hi
[15:06] <capitainenemo> bonjour
[15:07] <capitainenemo> hello
[15:07] <capitainenemo> I look for help about dual boot with XP and kubuntu
[15:07] <rork> !ask | capitainenemo
[15:08] <capitainenemo> thanks I discover this system
[15:09] <capitainenemo> I have 2 disk on the computer
[15:09] <capitainenemo> the first is on XP, and I installed Kubuntu on the second
[15:10] <capitainenemo> I use GAG to boot but I can't find the installation of Kubuntu 11.10
[15:10] <capitainenemo> XP run correctly
[15:10] <capitainenemo> I look about grub2 on the web , but its like a true gaz-machine !
[15:11] <capitainenemo> I can boot on my second disk with supergrubdisk
[15:15] <rork> I'm sorry I know nothing about gag, but maybe someone else does and will answer your question giving (a lot of) time. If you want to install grub as an alternative see !restoregrub (just type that here) but I don't see why gag wouldn't be working, it's probably just a configuration issue
[15:18] <capitainenemo> thanks rork
[15:18] <capitainenemo> I have read that GAG wasn't very efficient with somes partitions "étentues"
[15:18] <capitainenemo> I think I 'll try to configure Grub for the both hard disks
[15:19] <capitainenemo> but grub system isn't very mere
[15:23] <rork> mere as in simple? I've reinstalled grub a  couple of times and found it quite easy to do if you settle for the standard setup
[15:24] <rork> also if you can boot in your kubuntu system you don't have to go with the livecd, just use your kubuntu install instead (I'm afk now)
[15:41] <penguin42> is there a way to get a list of the 'jobs' that the notification widget shows on the panel - I'm running kPP and I've always seen a phantom job with just a block of squares in the description
[15:42] <Peace-> apachelogger: :) you there ?
[15:42] <Peace-> i guess no but xD
[16:35] <maciej_> Can someone please help me change the .icc color profile in Kubuntu 11.10; i cannot find an application in the settings menu
[16:37] <BluesKaj> maciej_,  check this , http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=97114
[16:38] <maciej_> how do i install Oyranos?
[16:41] <maciej_> I downloaded a .deb of Oyranos but after the package installer is done I don't see a program anwhere
[16:44] <BluesKaj> maciej_,  run it in the terminal ?
[16:45] <maciej_> by typing Oyranos?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:47] <maciej_> I just want to change the display's color profile, the same way that gnome-color-managers let me, but if I install gnome color manager in Kubuntu, i can't find the program after I install it
[16:47] <maciej_> command not found
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ok what about alt+f2
[16:48] <maciej_> just recent documents listed
[16:48] <BluesKaj> type it in
[16:49] <maciej_> The program oyranos is not listed, just the .deb file i downloaded
[16:49] <maciej_> gnome-color-manager is not listed either
[16:49] <penguin42> maciej_: use dpkg -l   on the package you installed to see the files that were in it
[16:49] <BluesKaj> mac open a terminal sudo dpkg -i thedebfile
[16:50] <BluesKaj> maciej_,  I thought you had run the .deb file
[16:52] <maciej_> why can't i run gnome color manager in kubuntu?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> maciej_,  I'll take a guess , because it's meant to be run on gtk apps
[16:55] <maciej_> before 11.10 i was able to install it on kubuntu
[16:55] <maciej_> and run it
[16:59] <penguin42> maciej_: So what happens if you run gnome color manager in kubuntu?
[17:00] <maciej_> i can't find the program anywhere in utilties/system etc to run it
[17:02] <penguin42> maciej_: My guess is because gnome changed the way it does colour stuff
[17:03] <BluesKaj> maj what about kmenu>apps >graphics
[17:03] <maciej_> and if i double click on a .icc profile from my home folder, it says it's imorted but I have no idea how to change the profile
[17:03] <maciej_> nothing there
[17:04] <BluesKaj> maciej_,  open /usr/bin to see if the app is located there
[17:09] <maciej_> i can open gcm picker but it just doesn't work, it's not running right
[17:12] <maciej_> gnome color manager is broken up in different apps in bin.. gcm-calibrate won't open
[17:12] <maciej_> i guess i just can't change the lcd .icc profile in KDE
[17:26] <RocknRolla> my trash say it reach it's max size what should i do?
[17:26] <RocknRolla> trash is totally empty
[17:28] <penguin42> RocknRolla: There is a separate trash on different directories I think, are you sure you have the right trash?
[17:29] <RocknRolla> trash:/
[17:40] <toxicsgz> I am making the move from Gnome to KDE, trying kubuntu first before opensuse, I am after a stable OS so should I install 10.04 for now?
[17:41] <penguin42> toxicsgz: That depends what you mean by stable
[17:42] <toxicsgz> I mean something I am not going to have to fiddle with to do what I want.
[17:42] <penguin42> toxicsgz: 11.10 is pretty stable as well in terms of how often it goes wrong; if you mean stable in terms of how often you need to update then 10.04 is going to be supported a bit longer I think
[17:42] <penguin42> toxicsgz: Then I'd probably go for 11.10
[17:43] <penguin42> toxicsgz: KDE was working well on 11.10 for me
[17:43] <toxicsgz> Basically the new Gnome 3 has made this decision for me, time to check out KDE, I want an OS that will stay the same for some time.
[17:45] <penguin42> toxicsgz: Well if you go for 10.04 you can go with KDE or Gnome 2
[17:45] <Xavi92> In my opinion (hi everyone), 10.10 is the best Kubuntu version I've tried
[17:45] <penguin42> toxicsgz: The 11.10 and 12.04 has KDE or Unity (or Gnome 3) -  11.10 worked pretty well for me with KDE
[17:45] <peace_> form me 12.04  is the best
[17:45] <peace_> xD
[17:46] <Xavi92> I recommend it instead of 10.04 or 11.10
[17:46] <penguin42> peace_: I've got a really annoying bug with KDE in the 12.04 alpha - the task manager is showing windows on other desktops
[17:46] <peace_> penguin42: task manager?
[17:46] <peace_> penguin42: who cares i have icontask
[17:46] <peace_> xD
[17:46] <penguin42> peace_: List of windows on the panel
[17:46] <penguin42> icontask?
[17:47] <peace_> penguin42: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzEty1TYAE
[17:47] <Xavi92> What I specially didn't like from 11.10 was the fact that the "back" button in the start menu was removed
[17:47] <Xavi92> Has that been fixed in 12.04?
[17:47] <peace_> it's not a bug
[17:48] <peace_> they changed kickoff (laucher)
[17:49] <Xavi92> Hmmmm, I prefer the old kickoff launcher then
[17:49] <peace_> Xavi92: you can use takeoff
[17:49] <peace_> the standard menu
[17:49] <peace_> lancelot
[17:49] <penguin42> peace_: That's pretty - packaged? Where's the icontask bit?
[17:49] <peace_> shelf
[17:49] <Xavi92> Plus, both 11.04 and 11.10 gave me problems when turning off the computer
[17:49] <peace_> penguin42: sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-icontask
[17:50] <peace_> penguin42: on 12.04 ther eshould beh
[17:50] <peace_> be
[17:50] <peace_> Xavi92: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzEty1TYAE
[17:51] <penguin42> peace_: Doesn't seem to be in the 12.04 package set
[17:52] <peace_> penguin42: 32 or 64bit?
[17:52] <penguin42> 64
[17:52] <peace_> penguin42: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4127065/debian%20package/ocelot/plasma-icontasks-0.9.2_64bit.deb
[17:52] <penguin42> no thanks - don't take drop'd debs
[17:53] <toxicsgz> Kubuntu sight recommends the 32bit, is that even on 64bit machines?
[17:53] <peace_> penguin42: are you sure you have not?
[17:53] <peace_> penguin42: it shoul dbe on the addons package
[17:54] <penguin42> peace_: apt-cache search icontask  comes back empty - let me see the addons
[17:54] <peace_> i mean is integrated
[17:54] <peace_> on kde installation
[17:54] <peace_> penguin42: addwidget
[17:54] <peace_> penguin42: search for icontask
[17:54] <peace_> penguin42: i have http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-plasma-desktopjw1692
[17:56] <penguin42> peace_: Ah yes, got that
[17:56] <peace_> ...
[17:56] <penguin42> peace_: Right, got that going - lets see how it does
[17:57] <penguin42> peace_: Thanks
[17:57] <peace_> i use nowardev layout for my panels
[17:57] <peace_> xd
[17:57]  * peace_ is nowardev
[17:58] <penguin42> peace_: Are your different panel layouts packaged?
[17:59] <peace_> penguin42: not yet but you can install them locally with  copyin and pasting a code
[17:59] <peace_> on konsole
[17:59] <penguin42> I've not got time today, but maybe some time
[18:00] <peace_> i am tryin to do it but i have problem
[18:00] <peace_> i am nob on debain packagin
[18:00] <penguin42> peace_: There is a #ubuntu-packaging channel
[18:01] <peace_> penguin42: i did some error i dunno here http://code.google.com/p/plasma-panels-script/source/browse/#svn%2FTestingkubuntu
[18:02]  * penguin42 disappears for ~20mins
[18:26] <penguin42> right, one pudding in for dinner
[18:28] <peace_> penguin42: are you a packager or you know how to do that tuff?
[18:29] <penguin42> peace_: I've done some small changes to packages, I did once create a small package for internal use - I normally work on the source rather than the packaging
[18:30] <peace_> penguin42: i really hate do that
[18:30] <peace_> packaggin
[18:31] <penguin42> yeh, I think it's mostly because it's not something you do every day - there are a load of debian helper packages that make stuff easier
[19:34] <almoxarife> what is the default backup method in kubuntu?
[19:53] <josm> default backup method?
[19:54] <josm> What do you have in mind?
[19:57] <josm> You could check out: https://launchpad.net/sbackup/
[20:17] <gorthaug> hi, how can i switch between plasma-netbook and plasma-desktop?
[20:21] <josm> penguin42: FPM - Effing Package Management
[20:22] <penguin42> josm: ?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> gorthaug,  in system settings>worspace behaviour>workspace>workspace type , then choose
[20:32] <josm> penguin42: its a nice tool for making deb and rpm packages.
[20:32] <josm> Worth looking at
[20:33] <penguin42> thanks
[20:33] <josm> its on github
[20:52] <AlanBell> did you want some support on kubuntu Aries?
[20:54] <Aries> i'd like to now about ldap on ubuntu, any link ? something like that
[20:55] <AlanBell> !ldap
[20:55] <AlanBell> Aries: if you are using ubuntu you might find the #ubuntu channel better, if you are using the KDE based kubuntu then this is the right place
[20:59] <Aries> thanks Alan but do you know something like ubuntu certification ?
[21:14] <toxicsgz> the 11.10 iso is named 'kubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso'   does 'amd' refer to cpu type, as opposed to 'Intel"?
[21:23] <Snowhog> toxicsgz1: It's for a 64-bit CPU, whether Intel or AMD, it doesn't matter.
[21:38] <daniele___>  \9821234567890'ì
[22:54] <daniele> I use linux mint
[23:15] <kjzz> ciao
[23:15] <kjzz> !list
[23:18] <EvilResistance> kjzz:  can we help you with something?
[23:30] <Guest97945> I have Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.3 and Kernal <IP_ADDRESS>. Everything seems to run fine except for really bad distortion of the title bars, and corresponding overhang on the bottom of the window.  The Desktop Environment is set to use OpenGL. I tried to find answers on the internet but there was too much information about unrelated things. How do i fix the wonky windows titlebar distortion without having to resort to changing to xrender
[23:30] <Guest97945> settings?
[23:32] <Riddell> Guest97945: can try upgrading to newer KDE packages, see kubuntu.org
[23:32] <Riddell> else need to search for problems with that version of kwin and the X graphics drivers version you use
[23:35] <Guest97945> Riddell: I have the latest (stable) releases. Are there any good sources that would help me find out re: version problems and x graphics drivers?
[23:36] <Riddell> Guest97945: oh well you can risk the unstable KDE releases I guess is what I ment, but the downside does mean using beta software
[23:37] <Riddell> !X
[23:37] <Riddell> hmm that's doesn't help much
[23:38] <Riddell> xdpyinfo might give you information that you could then search for kwin and that X driver
[23:41] <Guest97945> Riddell: Thanx. I will give that utility a try. I am learning a lot. :)
[23:50] <hanno> Hi
[23:50] <hanno> Has anyone experience with tor torbutton and vidalia?
[23:50] <hanno> Torbutton works, but vidalio shows tor is not running.
[23:51] <hanno> And it says it is not able to read /var/run/tor/control
[23:53] <hanno>  /etc/init.d/tor status says "tor is running"
[23:53] <hanno> My user is in the group debian-tor
[23:55] <skierpage> Kubuntu 11.10: Apper has stalled "Installing packages", 71% through the 4.7.4 update, I have a [dpkg] <defunct> process. How can I best restart it?
[23:55] <toxicsgz> I think i like kubuntu better than openSuse but trying out Mint 12 KDE first :)
[23:58] <skierpage> Should I just kill Apper, or packagekit, or ?
[23:58] <hanno> It seems to be a rights problem, as vidalia works, if i start it with kdesudo. But thats no solution is it?


[11:17] <CIA-61> partman-ext2r0: cjwatson * r790 ubuntu/ (29 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.17; 1.15ubuntu1 was never released due to a Soyuz bug, now fixed
[11:20] <CIA-61> partman-ext2r0: cjwatson * r791 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.17ubuntu1
[11:25] <davmor2> cjwatson: did you manage to sort out the encrypted stuff in the end?
[11:33] <cjwatson> we talked through most of it with the kernel team, should be done for alpha 3
[11:33] <davmor2> Cool so just avoid testing it or did you drop it for alpha2?
[11:33] <cjwatson> dropped
[11:33] <davmor2> np's
[11:33] <cjwatson> it shouldn't appear in the ui
[11:45] <CIA-61> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1009 ubuntu/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[11:45] <CIA-61> debian-installer: Disable GTK frontend on powerpc so that mouse-modules won't be required
[11:45] <CIA-61> debian-installer: either. (lpia is harder because its configuration is a symlink to i386.)
[11:49] <davmor2> cjwatson: I'll check it out shortly just dling the iso now
[12:12] <tjaalton> how does the installer know which partman packages to install? I'm thinking about partman-multipath, and how it's used
[12:12] <tjaalton> currently it's in universe though, so it would need to be promoted too I guess
[12:17] <cjwatson> anything that's Priority: standard gets installed by default
[12:17] <cjwatson> partman-multipath is optional in Debian
[12:17] <cjwatson> so I'm not quite sure ...
[12:19] <tjaalton> hmm ok
[12:22] <davmor2> cjwatson: you know in ubiquity when it gets to the partitioning bit why is the default not 50/50% when another OS is detected?
[12:23] <cjwatson> tjaalton: hw-detect installs partman-multipath if necessary. Yes it'll need to be in main
[12:24] <tjaalton> cjwatson: ooh, I'll file a MIR bug
[12:24] <cjwatson> davmor2: seems like a bikeshed argument to me, I'm not sure there's any right answer
[12:26] <davmor2> cjwatson: fair enough just wondered if there was a reason for it :)   Also I like the new this will delete dialogue
[12:29] <davmor2> cjwatson: kubuntu live cd failed to resize a vista install
[12:30] <cjwatson> evand is way more up to date about current partitioning stuff in ubiquity than I am
[12:30] <cjwatson> I haven't touched it since intrepid
[12:30] <davmor2> evand: ^^ when you get chance
[12:32] <davmor2> Ubiquity seems to of locked up now resizing on ubuntu too so I'll try alternative instead.
[12:40] <tjaalton> cjwatson: wouldn't adding universe to mirror/udeb/components let me bypass the main-limitation so that I could test it right away?
[12:41] <cjwatson> try it :)
[12:42] <tjaalton> heh, why not
[12:43] <tjaalton> although bugs 306723 and 307032 probably make it fail at some point, but at least the logs should show some action
[12:58] <davmor2> evand: cjwatson: ignore I found the fault the ntfs was unclean
[13:04] <davmor2> cjwatson: your right no encrypting option at all :)
[13:35] <tjaalton> cjwatson: yeah, it got exactly as far as I imagined, failed to detect the devices due to 306723
[13:35] <tjaalton> but promising anyway
[14:01] <evand> ok
[14:15] <tjaalton> duh, built a new multipath-udeb, but it complainst that libaio.so.1 isn't available
[14:16] <tjaalton> of course I should install the deps by hand
[14:33] <tjaalton> success! some strange messages while it creates the partitions, but the installation seems to work
[16:32] <saispo> cjwatson: i see a strange things, now when i create a hardy custom cd i see that the kernel in the pool are 2.6.24-22 but the kernel launched by debian installer are the 2.6.24-19, how can i fix that ?
[16:34] <saispo> i think this changes is donne recently no ?
[16:35] <cjwatson> haven't uploaded it yet
[16:35] <saispo> ok :)
[16:35] <saispo> the only things is to wait ?
[16:36] <cjwatson> probably easiest for the moment unless you want to rebuild debian-installer locally and squeeze it in yourself
[16:36] <cjwatson> I should be uploading it later today
[16:36] <cjwatson> (though it may take a while to filter through to -updates)
[16:36] <saispo> ok great
[16:37] <saispo> because i must out my custom release and i can't build any cd at this time
[16:37] <saispo> i will wait tomorrow, and hope to be in -updates ;)
[16:38] <saispo> thks for the answer cjwatson
[17:21] <davmor2> evand: manual on kubuntu won't allow me to edit a partition :(
[17:22] <davmor2> ubiquity
[17:24] <davmor2> and now apport is locked trying to collect information hmmm
[17:31] <davmor2> evand: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/debug should cover the bug
[17:38] <evand> known bug
[17:39] <evand> I'm looking into it
[17:40] <davmor2> evand: cool :)
[17:41] <davmor2> evand: is there a bug for it or do you want me to write one up?
[17:44] <evand> Shouldnt be necessary.  It's just a porting issue.
[17:52] <CIA-61> debian-installer: cjwatson * r929 hardy-proposed/debian/changelog: releasing version 20070308ubuntu40.6
[18:10] <CIA-61> tzsetup: cjwatson * r495 ubuntu/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
[18:10] <CIA-61> tzsetup: Make it possible to select from a worldwide list of timezones if the
[18:10] <CIA-61> tzsetup: default list is insufficient (LP: #28890).
[18:38] <CIA-61> oem-config: cjwatson * r565 debconf-ui/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Adjust for changes in tzsetup 1:0.24ubuntu1.
[18:40] <CIA-61> oem-config: cjwatson * r566 debconf-ui/ (6 files in 4 dirs): merge from trunk
[20:04] <davmor2> xivulon: evening dude.  Is wubi in a position to be tested or are you still working on the python implementation?
[20:09] <davmor2> evand: you know the nice warning you get on ubuntu's installer about this remove xp and install 9.04 will that be transferred across to kubuntu too?
[20:13] <xivulon> hi davmor2, still finishing the python implementation, hope to get some spare time during holidays and finish it off (at least to be able to install)
[20:14] <xivulon> it's not too far off, needs one or two full days to be able to install, will be a bit rough at the beginning
[20:14] <davmor2> xivulon: Cool give me a ping when it's ready I'll give it a whirl
[20:15] <xivulon> will do, thanks a lot for helping
[20:15] <davmor2> np's


[14:27] <stevecam> would anyone have a build log for a kernel just laying around, and recent one will do
[16:57] <apw> stevecam, all the main launchpad builds for the archive retain full logs
[16:57] <apw> which can be found on the +source page


[12:08] <Nicholas[m]> I'm wondering whether the dirty pipe vulnerability is mitigated by live patch, or do I need a reboot?
[13:01] <sdeziel>  Nicholas[m]: I haven't used live patch but that's something I'd expect the `canonical-livepatch status` output to show, maybe?
[15:10] <Nicholas[m]> so what's happening then? when livepatch patches the running kernel does it bump the version number of the kernel -- can you go e.g. 5.4.0 -> 5.4.1
[15:27] <tomreyn> more likely, it will be some kind of appendix. i assume /proc/version will show it, too.
[15:28] <sdeziel> Nicholas[m]: AFAIK, the kernel number (5.4.0) never changes during the whole support life. There is a number after it that keeps going up (5.4.0-104 is current ATM).
[15:28] <ebarretto> Nicholas[m], no kernel that is supported on livepatch was affected. Only kernels > 5.8 were affected: https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2022-0847
[15:30] <Nicholas[m]> ebarretto: the HWE kernel is 5.13 - isn't that supported by livepatch?
[15:32] <ebarretto> Nicholas[m], only the ones listed here: https://ubuntu.com/security/livepatch/docs/kernels
[15:34] <Nicholas[m]> oh dear. so a 20.04 server running HWE 5.13 needs a reboot to be covered from the dirtypipe... 😱
[15:47] <tomreyn> according to this table, 20.04 LTS HWE kernels do not (yet) receive livepatch support at all.
[15:47] <tomreyn> (just GA)
[23:44] <shalocin[m]> Just switch back to the genetic kernel if you want live patch and get reboots. Servers generally don't need HWE branch because it just sits there in a rack doing its thing. On the other hand,  you are more likely to be plugging in some fancy device into your desktop out laptop.
[23:44] <shalocin[m]> Or am I wrong?