[00:00] <mrfunk> quebre: im so sorry man, i played this game for years and i always thought 6112 and 6113 where the ports
[00:00] <quebre> mrfunk: no need to sorry me, it's you who waste the time instead of playing already ;)
[00:00] <gnomeaedad> what.cd
[00:00] <vit_o> dlentz, ok, so let me try, i'll came back to talk, thank you for your help!
[00:01] <dlentz> yw
[00:01] <mrfunk> quebre: is there any way to monitor which ports are requesting connections with the game opened?
[00:01] <quebre> mrfunk: tcpdump
[00:01] <mrfunk> quebre: okay, im going to try that out, is it in real time?
[00:02] <quebre> mrfunk: yeah, use -n switch, probably you want to specify port range
[00:02] <quebre> mrfunk: coz if you download something it will be huge
[00:02] <quebre> ;d
[00:03] <quebre> mrfunk: tcpdump -n udp port 6000-7000 and tcp port 6000-7000
[00:03] <quebre> should do the trick
[00:03] <mrfunk> quebre: haha okay, im with transmission open so im sure it would be
[00:04] <quebre> mrfunk: does that game require monthly paid subscription ??
[00:04] <mrfunk> quebre: okay, first im going to open the remaining ports
[00:04] <mrfunk> quebre: not, its free
[00:04] <quebre> mmh
[00:04] <quebre> does it have LAN option ?
[00:04] <quebre> would play with my kid..
[00:05] <mrfunk> quebre: you should buy the game but i play on "pirated" servers.. ha
[00:05] <quebre> mrfunk: don't say that loudly ;)
[00:05] <mrfunk> quebre: haha well they are "pirated" not really illegal, something like wow private servers
[00:05] <quebre> mrfunk: might consider buying it if the graphic doesn't look old..
[00:06] <mrfunk> quebre: not at all, its a good game, very dynamic, fast and smart, check some dota videos
[00:07] <IWIllNotChange> dota2?
[00:07] <IWIllNotChange> or just dota?
[00:07] <mrfunk> dota
[00:07] <quebre> IWIllNotChange: he said dota
[00:07] <vit_o> dlentz, nothing change. do you suggest to try the ati drivers?
[00:07] <mrfunk> quebre: okay im going to open those ports brb
[00:07] <quebre> take your time
[00:07] <quebre> [;
[00:08] <quebre> brb?
[00:08] <quebre> or just bbl?
[00:08] <IWIllNotChange> quebre: its a pretty open "topic" just to say "dota" in refrence to either one, didn't wanna sound stupid talking about the other one.
[00:08] <quebre> :)
[00:08] <dlentz> yes, try the proprietary driver
[00:08] <quebre> IWIllNotChange: i see
[00:08] <quebre> i sound stupid each time i talk
[00:09] <sammmy> I can't seem to restart my apache2 server on my VPS. I use to be able to just fine with apache2 -k restart, but now I'm getting an error message: "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"
[00:09] <IWIllNotChange> :P
[00:09] <quebre> it's not that bad ;)
[00:09] <IWIllNotChange> it happens
[00:09] <orionsonofneptun> anyone know how to get minicom
[00:10] <quebre> sammmy: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[00:10] <quebre> sammmy: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[00:10] <quebre> ;)
[00:10] <zykotick9> !info minicom | orionsonofneptun apt-get install
[00:10] <sammmy> Why do I have to do that now when I didn't before, quebre?
[00:10] <orionsonofneptun> sudo first???
[00:11] <IWIllNotChange> Did you install lamp since?
[00:11] <zykotick9> orionsonofneptun: sorry, "sudo apt-get install minicom" would be the comman
[00:11] <quebre> sammmy: because you did something before that broken your way of restarting and since i don't know what did you broke i advised the _normal_ way :)
[00:11] <piranah> lol @ minicom i rem using that to hit up BBS's back in the day when slack was installed off a crapload of floppies
[00:11] <quebre> sammmy: maybe you deleted the apache's user/group name ;)
[00:11] <piranah> lol
[00:12] <quebre> piranah: i remember it from slackware 5 ;P
[00:12] <sammmy> quebre: Oh I see. So using apache2 -k restart, isn't the normal way of restarting?
[00:12] <piranah> :)
[00:12] <quebre> sammmy: no it's not
[00:12] <orionsonofneptun> E: Package 'minicom' has no installation candidate
[00:12] <orionsonofneptun> that is terminal output
[00:12] <quebre> sammmy: always use the init script if possible, thats what they are for
[00:13] <zykotick9> orionsonofneptun: "lsb_release -sc" what's the output?
[00:13] <orionsonofneptun> oneiric
[00:13] <orionsonofneptun> is out put
[00:14] <sammmy> quebre: init.d directory holds initialization scripts for many programs?
[00:14] <vit_o> dlentz, installation not completed check /var/log/jockey.log. Do you want to see it?
[00:14] <quebre> sammmy: yes
[00:14] <zykotick9> orionsonofneptun: ? no idea - good luck
[00:14] <orionsonofneptun> ok then
[00:15] <sammmy> quebre: I see. I will use that from now on. Thanks. :)
[00:15] <quebre> sammmy: 5euro
[00:15] <IWIllNotChange> http://askubuntu.com/questions/114093/sudo-tasksel-install-mail-server-crash   <- fix it :/
[00:16] <quebre> IWIllNotChange: i know the solution but im too lazy :/
[00:16] <IWIllNotChange> well I can't move on without it:/
[00:17] <zykotick9> IWIllNotChange: why not use apt-get and install the actual mail package?
[00:17] <IWIllNotChange> I tried doing postfix and exim but they both still cause it to go straigh back to root :x
[00:17] <IWIllNotChange> straight*
[00:18] <zykotick9> IWIllNotChange: not sure what that means?
[00:18] <IWIllNotChange> the two files it uses (minus dovecove)
[00:18] <quebre> dovecove
[00:18] <quebre> ;D
[00:19] <M3nt_Al> looking for some update help
[00:19] <nyRednek> M3nt_Al: update help? of what kind?
[00:19] <roasted> Question - How can I see the properties of a folder in terminal? I want to see the size in Megabytes of specific folders in terminal. How can I do such a thing to get that kind of output?
[00:20] <zykotick9> roasted: "du -sh /folder" is one way
[00:20] <quebre> roasted: du -hs directory
[00:20] <M3nt_Al> i'm trying to keep an older version of a program from getting updated
[00:20] <quebre> linux doesn't have folders
[00:20] <quebre> ;d
[00:20] <nemchik> question: i like the way gnome shell handles workspaces (always offers a blank one beyond the currently used, and removed multiple unused) is there a way to get this behavior in unity?
[00:20] <nyRednek> quebre: nope, just files and sockets
[00:20] <hammommah> i have an old ati x300 card plugged into my mobo, i used it to run second monitor as my onboard graphics runs faster. can ubuntu handle to different display adapters at once? how do i setup ati drivers?
[00:20] <quebre> nyRednek: just files ;)
[00:21] <quebre> nyRednek: socket is a file too
[00:21] <nyRednek> quebre: actually, there exist sockets that aren't contained in files...
[00:21] <nyRednek> if you truly want a "file only" system, you have to go to plan9
[00:21] <quebre> nyRednek: if only plan9 have bigger fanclub
[00:21] <quebre> ;)
[00:21] <zykotick9> nyRednek: thank you!  i just learned about "not everything is a file", and couldn't remember the example - sockets ;)
[00:21] <Mr_Tok> hi i looking for some help for nvidia drivers problem (sorry for my english)
[00:22] <nyRednek> quebre: yeah, if only
[00:22] <vVREDVv> hey can i get a little help with an annoying little bug
[00:22] <quebre> nyRednek: the idea is lovely tho
[00:22] <nyRednek> quebre: yeah, but *nix is good enough
[00:23] <vVREDVv> when i move windows around the best word to describe it is laggy movement , i have disabled sync to vblank in my gfx and compiz but it still persists
[00:23] <quebre> but back to the point, you don't call linux directories 'folders' like you do on win
[00:23] <nyRednek> quebre: well, when you're using ubuntu, you can...
[00:23] <zykotick9> quebre: sorry, that was me ;)  and you're absolutely right!
[00:23] <nyRednek> quebre: it isn't incorrect, tbh
[00:23] <quebre> nyRednek: right, there is linux and there's ubuntu ;>
[00:23] <vit_o> dlentz, with the new driver it seems it work! thank you very much! ... i don't know what time is out there but i'm going to sleep (italy) so good night! ;)
[00:24] <quebre> zykotick9: ;)
[00:24] <zykotick9> quebre: s/linux/gnu linux/ :p ;)
[00:24] <hammommah> i have an old ati x300 card plugged into my mobo, i used it to run second monitor as my onboard graphics runs faster. can ubuntu handle to different display adapters at once? how do i setup ati drivers?
[00:24] <vVREDVv> any one know how to fix choppy windows movement
[00:24] <roasted> appreciate it, zykotick9 and quebre
[00:24] <nyRednek> ubuntu is a linux, but one that is heavily tweaked to be easier to use along with having all the features/packages debian carries
[00:25] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: um, disable some of your features
[00:25] <vVREDVv> i did
[00:25] <vVREDVv> ive tried it with no animations no effects same thing
[00:26] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: maybe disable your closed source video driver?
[00:26] <vVREDVv> I was told it was vsync but i turned that off
[00:26] <quebre> vVREDVv: maybe your hand is choppy..
[00:26] <vVREDVv> quebre its not i even tried it with my mouse at 480 dpi
[00:27] <zykotick9> vVREDVv: what GPU are you using?
[00:27] <M3nt_Al> Problem solved though google...
[00:27] <quebre> i was helping one man he was not aware that his hand shakes :p he thought it's broken system ;)
[00:27] <M3nt_Al> Goodnight!
[00:27] <vVREDVv> zykotick9 nVidia GTX460se
[00:28] <zykotick9> vVREDVv: hummm, i'd imagine that is a pretty resonable card?  no suggestions, good luck.
[00:28] <vVREDVv> i have tried the community drives and straight from the nVIdia repos
[00:28] <vVREDVv> my windows install works fine its just unity and gnome that i have this problem
[00:28] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: try to change back to the open source(vesa) driver
[00:28] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: just unity and gnome? no problem on xfce or kde?
[00:29] <vVREDVv> yea
[00:29] <kesi> Any suggestions on getting suspend or hibernate to work on 11.10 with an Asus laptop?
[00:29] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: that sounds deeply like a settings issue
[00:29] <vVREDVv> I have already messed around in there
[00:29] <vVREDVv> and kesi hibernate and suspend prolyl wont wrok
[00:30] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: make a new user account, try there, with a clean home dir
[00:30] <vVREDVv> I have
[00:30] <vVREDVv> same issue
[00:30] <kesi> vVREDVv, there's  no way? That could be a deal-breaker for me :(
[00:30] <nyRednek> kesi: does it work at all? or does it just not resume?
[00:31] <vVREDVv> kesi I know exactly what the problem is and you wont fix it
[00:31] <kesi> nyRednek, It doesn't seem to really power down and doesn't resume. Just blanks the screen but stays backlit
[00:31] <vVREDVv> same thing happens on my laptop
[00:31] <vVREDVv> yup wont work
[00:31] <vVREDVv> mine is like that by i get random coloured lines every where
[00:32] <nyRednek> kesi: you're stuck until someone fixes it upstream
[00:32] <kesi> nyRednek, if I go back to a previous version will I have better luck?
[00:32] <vVREDVv> kesi no
[00:32] <vVREDVv> kesi give the 12.04 beta a test run
[00:32] <mrfunk> quebre: hey man it worked perfectly, thank you!
[00:33] <quebre> mrfunk: 6euro
[00:33] <zykotick9> kesi: keep in mind 12.04 isn't supported in this channel until release
[00:33] <hammommah> kesi, is you swap at least as big as your ram?
[00:33] <kesi> hammommah, not sure, I did it automatically, how can I check that?
[00:33] <mrfunk> quebre: haha! inv you a beer instead? :)
[00:33] <quebre> mrfunk: suure ;)
[00:34] <hammommah> open disk manager and look at size of swap partition
[00:34] <vVREDVv> kesi its not the swap its just a little bug with it not liking your computer
[00:34] <mrfunk> quebre: i didnt come earlier because i was playing, see you later
[00:34] <hammommah> if you have heaps of hd space go 2xram for swap size
[00:34] <quebre> mrfunk: take care
[00:35] <kesi> hammommah, when I look in disk utility, I don't see one labeled swap but I have a unknown partition that's 4.2 GB. I have 4GB of RAM.
[00:35] <vVREDVv> kesi thats your swap
[00:36] <vVREDVv> like i said its not the swap
[00:36] <hammommah> no probs there then
[00:36] <vVREDVv> I had the same problem
[00:36] <kesi> okay, we get it vVREDVv. I'm still going to do any troubleshooting that people recommend
[00:36] <Guest44438> k
[00:37] <hammommah> worth checking i say, rule out as many possible causes
[00:37] <Guest44438> k
[00:37] <kesi> hammommah, I'm with ya.
[00:37] <nyRednek> kesi: which ubuntu are you using?
[00:37] <kesi> nyRednek, 11.10
[00:38] <vVREDVv> ok nyrednek as for my problem ive made it not as bad
[00:41] <klj613> recommendations for lightweight mail server? (SMTP)
[00:46] <vVREDVv> ok this is odd ive reduced my problem significantly by remove all my graphics drivers
[00:46] <vVREDVv> removing*
[00:47] <lcc> how can I configure a wireless printer?
[00:47] <lcc> hp
[00:47] <lcc> I've been reading tutorials and they aren't working.
[00:47] <lcc> I tried hp-setup -i
[00:48] <xpr3ss> I need to do some C++ programming, whats the best way to program and Compile to see results ( my college uses VISUAL BASIC 2008 on windows but Im on Ubuntu, so need Help)
[00:48] <vVREDVv> nyRednek i fixed it
[00:48] <CFHowlett_> xpr3ss   see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1325
[00:48] <vVREDVv> just had to enable copy to texture in compiz
[00:51] <lcc> nvmnd
[00:53] <nyRednek> vVREDVv: cool
[00:55] <gartral> hello everyone, I'm having an issue with brasero.. when I go too burn anything it eject the disk and then reports an error
[00:57] <vVREDVv> gartral first off i recomend a usb over a dvd any day second try a windows program in wine
[00:57] <vVREDVv> or a diffrent cd
[00:58] <Fyodorovna> vVREDVv, a widows program in wine lol.
[00:58] <nyRednek> i prefer wodim, but that's just me
[00:58] <gartral> vVREDVv: it's not the disk, and I'm trying too burn an audio cd for use in my car, it's a USB burner that works perfectly with k3b, but k3b takes up too much space
[00:58] <gartral> nyRednek: isn't brasero a front-end for wodim?
[00:59] <vVREDVv> gartral you have a phone or ipod?
[00:59] <gartral> vVREDVv: No.
[00:59] <nyRednek> gartral: yeah, it is, but wodim directly has more options
[00:59] <Fyodorovna> gardar, how full is your HD that you have to worry about the size of a working app?
[00:59] <vVREDVv> ok well I don't know much about brasero and i recommended all my other solutions
[01:00] <gartral> Fyodorovna: a 16 gig ssd with 320 mb left..
[01:00] <haz3lnut> vVREDVv: did you really recommend wine to burn cd?
[01:00] <vVREDVv> yes haz3lnut
[01:01] <vVREDVv> thats a worse case scenario if brasero is derpin
[01:01] <gartral> also, for thise interested, this is the log from brasero http://paste.ubuntu.com/890076/
[01:01] <Fyodorovna> gardar, thats not good.
[01:01] <haz3lnut> vVREDVv: so the 2 Vs in your nic stand for Windows and the RED stands for Redmond, maybe?
[01:01] <gartral> Fyodorovna: gardar gets mad when people confuse us..
[01:01] <vVREDVv> no my nick is R.E.D (my steam name) but its taken
[01:01] <vVREDVv> so I use my alts that include vV and xl not windows
[01:02] <vVREDVv> and redmond
[01:02] <haz3lnut> vVREDVv: just checking
[01:02] <gartral> nyRednek: how would I use wodim too burn an audio cd?
[01:03] <nyRednek> gartral: wodim track1file track2file track3file
[01:03] <nyRednek> gartral: also, it must be in wav format first
[01:03] <vVREDVv> haz4lnut Im mutual when it comes to windows because its what im used to but I hate M$ business model so im moving away from it
[01:03] <gartral> nyRednek: ahh.. that's a pain in the butt.. my audio is all in flac (on an external drive)
[01:03] <nyRednek> i use windows only because i must
[01:03] <vVREDVv> brb
[01:04] <nyRednek> gartral: that may be the source of the issue
[01:04] <gartral> nyRednek: how so?
[01:04] <haz3lnut> nyRednek: for?
[01:04] <nyRednek> haz3lnut: work
[01:04] <nyRednek> gartral: not sure if brasero converts flacs to wav first
[01:05] <gartral> nyRednek: it *should*
[01:05] <gartral> nyRednek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890076/
[01:06] <nyRednek> gartral: it's failing to convert
[01:06] <gartral> nyRednek: greeaaat...
[01:06] <Canadian1296> How can I get irssi to automatically connect to freenode and identify me, instead of doing it manually?
[01:07] <nyRednek> Canadian1296: the irssi faq explains all
[01:07] <Canadian1296> nyRednek: Okay I'll take a look
[01:08] <itaylor57> Canadian1296, http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c3
[01:09] <diskinetic> I'm running a live USB  thumb drive (16gb), and I have no other drive on the system.  Can I use a second 16gb drive as "/home"?
[01:09] <nyRednek> i learned a couple weeks ago how to make alpine support multiple smtp servers and multiple signing/decryption pgp keys
[01:10] <Nach0z> diskinetic: yes
[01:10] <Nach0z> diskinetic: /etc/fstab, I believe, is the file you need to modify
[01:10] <Nach0z> I THINK
[01:10] <diskinetic> ok, I'll look
[01:11] <diskinetic> thx
[01:12] <Nach0z> anytime. just be careful with that stuff.... dunno if it'll break
[01:12] <diskinetic> ah, that's what backups are for.
[01:12] <haz3lnut> gartral: for i in *.flac; do ext=${i##*.} x="${i%.$ext}"; ffmpeg -i "$i" -y "${i%$ext}wav"; done
[01:12] <Nach0z> diskinetic: I meant more like, using a flash drive as your /home partition is not necessarily a good plan.
[01:12] <triscuit> when do you guys think 12.04 will be released?
[01:13] <haz3lnut> gartral: then burn the wavs
[01:13] <Flumpy> triscuit: Late April. It's on the timeline.
[01:13] <triscuit> Oh, cool
[01:13] <diskinetic> Nach0z as in it's a lousy plan?
[01:14] <haz3lnut> not cool, it's loaded with bugs.
[01:14] <Nach0z> diskinetic: that'd be my analysis, yes
[01:14] <diskinetic> Nach0z I have an SSD on the way, I was just goofing around
[01:14] <Nach0z> ahhh gotcha.
[01:14] <udh-winger> Can you get a software internship as a college dropout?
[01:15] <Nach0z> Yes, you can mount just about ANY folder onto a separate drive so long as the necessary files are still there for the OS to use
[01:15] <udh-winger> Anyone?
[01:16] <pangolin> !ot | udh-winger
[01:16]  * gartral says 'smeg it' and converts the files too wav in winff
[01:16] <diskinetic> I'm just trying to get persistence to work, and it's bugging me, plus, i can't get HDMI sound to work.  I'll try to fix everything in earnest when the SSD arrives and I have storage.
[01:17] <dlentz> diskinetic, are you using radeon open-source driver?
[01:17] <diskinetic> nope
[01:17] <diskinetic> it's an Nvidia card
[01:17] <dlentz> ok, there goes my solution :P
[01:17] <diskinetic> ha
[01:17] <grkblood> if I start my laptop on an external VGA monitor and then unplug it at a later time to use my laptop screen my screen has a very prominent green tint to it and I have to reboot the laptop to use the laptop monitor. Does anyone know of a fix for this or what I talking about?
[01:17] <kassabi92> bonjour
[01:17] <diskinetic> I've read some fixes, but until I have a storage, it's all lost on reboot.
[01:18] <diskinetic> so, blah
[01:18]  * Nach0z nods.
[01:18] <dlentz> grkblood, logging out doesn't fix it?
[01:19] <Guest87269> win7 messed up my sdcard, recovered files, now gonna reformat but first need to create new partition label
[01:19] <Guest87269> gparted gives me these choices: http://img.flashtux.org/img13302ff52f1xd23b4c68.jpg
[01:19] <Guest87269> which to choose???
[01:20] <Fyodorovna> Guest87269, msdos for partition table.
[01:20] <dlentz> msdos
[01:20] <Guest87269> msdos?
[01:21] <Guest87269> I was thinking which but msdos is a surprise to choose
[01:22] <Guest87269> done
[01:22] <Guest87269> thanks for the quick answer
[01:23] <Fyodorovna> Guest87269, no problem.
[01:23] <jgar0605> !register
[01:25] <diskinetic> I have a d/c intel 3400 celeron in a foxconn dh45 case, and a fanless 1gb asus video card.  I wonder if it would cook the innards if I disabled the case fan.
[01:25] <grkblood> dlentz, no
[01:26] <grkblood> whats its green its green
[01:26] <kesi> vVREDVv, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_U36SD#Suspend
[01:28] <dead-laptop-scre> My laptop screen died, so I connected an external monitor to it. The monitor is not getting a signal, even if I use the fn+ function to switch. Trying to run startx from the terminal (via ssh) gives me: (EE) FBDEV(0): Specified depth (24) is greater than the fbbpp (1) (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[01:28] <dead-laptop-scre> What does this mean or how can I make this work?
[01:38] <Dogears> Hi!
[01:39] <rking> Trying to help someone install some dependencies for a compile, and getting these erros: "libilmbase-dev : Depends: libilmbase6 (= 1.0.1-3build2) but 1.0.2-3.4~oo is to be installed" and "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."  Any suggestions?
[01:40] <rking> Full error: http://www.pasteall.org/30144
[01:41] <dlentz> rking, there;s a version of liilmbase from a ppa that's interfering
[01:41] <rking> dlentz: OK, I come from a Debian background, and don't understand the Ubuntu PPA idea. What do I tell him to do to fix this?
[01:42] <dlentz> You can try a force install of the -dev package
[01:43] <rking> The command was "sudo apt-get install libilmbase-dev" .. how do you force more than that?  Download & dpkg -i ?
[01:43] <Dulak> rking: a ppa is just a tiny .deb repository, nothing magical
[01:43] <rking> Dulak: But you overlay them on top of the official repos?
[01:44] <qwebirc116500> What does 'Specified depth (24) is greater than the fbbpp (1)' from xorg mean? I don't have a xorg.conf file, and X is failing to start with an external monitor attached
[01:44] <Dulak> rking: yes, usually you are doing it for a backport that isn't in an official repo
[01:44] <rking> Dulak: OK, thanks.
[01:45] <dlentz> apt-get --force-yes
[01:45] <rking> dlentz: K, thanks.
[01:52] <Dogears> I would like to upgrade my  Virtualbox 4.0.12 to 4.1.10 but the name has changed from virtualbox-4.0 to virtualbox.ose. What is the upgrade procedure?
[01:53] <slinkeey> Hello, what is the package that ubuntu uses to manage the touchppad/mouse?
[01:53] <slinkeey> I have xubuntu and would like to load whatever package ubuntu used for this
[01:53] <defendor> i neeed some serious help here guys
[01:53] <slinkeey> the configuration tool
[01:54] <valdur55> !help > defendor
[01:54] <defendor> i installed refit from the repos but when i reboot it doesnt show up
[01:54] <dlentz> Dogears, the -ose packages are transitional packages
[01:54] <defendor> anyone know how to use refit with ubuntu?
[01:55] <Fyodorovna> !info refit
[01:56] <defendor> i installed it but its now showing up in boot
[01:57] <Fyodorovna> defendor, you have a mac?
[01:58] <defendor> yes. and i installed lucid on it. now trying to boot precise but cant without refit
[01:58] <mkultra_> i need a mac to bang out some mac tutorials
[02:02] <kesi> nyRednek, just an fyi.. solution was here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Asus_U36SD#Suspend
[02:03] <Pikkachu> I'm trying to build a package for hours
[02:03] <Pikkachu> how to build the bin package from source package? if you don't ***really*** know, don't point me to a [googled] tutotial
[02:05] <mkultra_> sh filename.bin
[02:05] <valdur55> Pikkachu, give more info,  what program
[02:05] <mkultra_> alt + f2 gnome-terminal
[02:08] <popsch> is there an alternative to gigolo for mounting drives? gigolo can't handle nfs mounts
[02:09] <Flannel> Pikkachu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb has some cursory information, and links to more detailed information from the MOTU
[02:16] <NoViS1> I'm having troubles getting my cell phone to play music through my computer speakers. I've gotten to the point where I can *see* the graphic equalizer in the sound manager hearing the music, but that audio source isn't going to the speakers... Anybody know how I can mix that sound source to the computer speakers?
[02:17] <Dogears> dlentz: I have a message each time I start to say an upgrade is available but I have downloaded and tried to upgrade but it thinks they are different packages
[02:19] <Xeneth> Anyone know if they are close to fixing the gnome panel distortion so I do not need "killall gname-panel"?
[02:23] <roasted> Question - Does anybody use Scheduled Tasks? I'm seeing in their help file to select "Change User" to launch tasks as root, but I'm simply not seeing it on my interface. Anybody else see it?
[02:28] <bodi> sob
[02:29] <pfifo> today Im only charging half my usual rate for ubuntu support
[02:31] <waxstone> 0 cant be divided :P
[02:33] <haz3lnut> waxstone sure it can. you can;t divide by 0
[02:33] <roasted> Question - with rsync, the man page says there is a -x flag citing "do not leave file system." I've had a lot of rsync issues with .gvfs, where I have to --exclude=.gvfs, otherwise it'll copy .gvfs which is some weird crazy strange cached copy of my destination, so of course it only duplicates unnecesary data. Is the -x flag the same as excluding .gvfs in a way?
[02:33] <orionsonofneptun> ok dang how to get firmware for broadcom bcm4318 airforceone 54g wifi card ubuntu 11.10
[02:33] <waxstone> well 0 divided by anything is infinity
[02:33] <haz3lnut> waxstone 0 for you, 0 for me, 0 for pfifo...
[02:34] <orionsonofneptun> had to wipe hdd agian for the 4th time son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:34] <haz3lnut> waxstone you got that upside down and backwards.
[02:34] <waxstone> dividing by zero
[02:36] <orionsonofneptun> anyone???
[02:37] <pfifo> orionsonofneptun, `sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source`
[02:37] <orionsonofneptun> no im shure thats not quite it pfifo
[02:37] <orionsonofneptun> fw cutter or something
[02:38] <slackin> 5v5 scrim TS pm me!
[02:39] <pfifo> orionsonofneptun, well I like the STA driver much better cause it installs and works correctly
[02:40] <waxstone> haz3lnut, youre right lol
[02:44] <T_H_X> derp
[02:45] <hiexpo> hola all > hi ya bazhang > just wanted to say sorry personally to ya > I was being a jerk that nite :)
[02:49] <orionsonofneptun> ok
[02:49] <goddard> is anyone else tired of all the different IM clients ?
[02:49] <goddard> why cant one just work and stay working
[02:50] <gartral> goddard: not really. i use Pidgin, have for years, and always will unless something better comes along
[02:50] <Pikkachu> is there any problem when building packages from within ntfs partitions?
[02:50] <gartral> Pikkachu: YES. Lack of unix permissions.
[02:52] <hoshi411> anyone know of a good non distro specific linux testing and tweaking irc channel?
[02:52] <hoshi411> for more advanced users who tweak and pilliage their machines
[02:52] <hoshi411> monkey wrench linux hack irc support channel
[02:52] <Pikkachu> gartral: so if I chmod 777 a file supposed to be in /etc that's how it's going to be? are you guessing or you have a link to proof?
[02:52] <hoshi411> ?
[02:55] <18WAAEQ73> join #linuxmint-fr
[02:57] <gartral> Pikkachu: I know from experience that NTFS will flatten any permission flags you have set. because it doesn't understand them. if you want me too dig up proof.. i suppose i could google it.. but then agin, so could you.
[02:59] <pfifo> Pikkachu, ntfs doesnt support all the option needed to build packages, no symlinks no a/c/mtimes
[02:59] <roasted> Question - with rsync, the man page says there is a -x flag citing "do not leave file system." I've had a lot of rsync issues with .gvfs, where I have to --exclude=.gvfs, otherwise it'll copy .gvfs which is some weird crazy strange cached copy of my destination, so of course it only duplicates unnecesary data. Is the -x flag the same as excluding .gvfs in a way?
[03:03] <haemogoblin> evening
[03:05] <T_H_X> goddard, yea, i just gave up. installed vbox with xp and run messanger in seamless mode ... :((((
[03:06] <Pikkachu> gartral: you assume I don't know about how permissions are handled in ntfs and escapes form the original question, I'm sorry but you're wrong and helpless
[03:07] <Pikkachu> pfifo: so there are standard/metafile-configurable permissions for deb packages, the build will simply use whatever the original files use?
[03:08] <Pikkachu> pfifo: anyway thanks for remembering me of symlinks, it doesn't really make sense...
[03:08] <Pikkachu> so boring, I wanted to keep stuff in ntfs
[03:09] <gartral> Pikkachu: Instead of insulting me, why don't you point me too *your* information?
[03:09] <Pikkachu> pfifo: symlinks are working in ntfs
[03:10] <Pikkachu> gartral: right after you stop trying sound smart answering unasked questions
[03:10] <zykotick9> gartral: you gave the right info, I'd just drop it... waste of your time ;)
[03:11] <kesi> Are there any good apps or ways of controlling power settings more efficiently than the defaults in 11.10? Not only is there too little available but when I manually lower the brightness with the fn keys, it just goes back up after any time of dimming
[03:11] <roasted> Question - with rsync, the man page says there is a -x flag citing "do not leave file system." I've had a lot of rsync issues with .gvfs, where I have to --exclude=.gvfs, otherwise it'll copy .gvfs which is some weird crazy strange cached copy of my destination, so of course it only duplicates unnecesary data. Is the -x flag the same as excluding .gvfs in a way?
[03:11] <gartral> zykotick9: as an outside observer too the conversation, did you see me "talking to myself" as Pikkachu says i did?
[03:12] <zykotick9> gartral: i don't want to get in the middle ;)  but, i stand by the "you gave the right info", the receiver just wasn't ready to accept it
[03:12] <gartral> zykotick9: Understood, thank you.
[03:13] <gartral> Pikkachu: You appear to be instigating trouble that's uncalled for here.. I'm /ignoring you
[03:13] <pfifo> Pikkachu, only hardlinks iirc, and autotools systems uses things like mtime and symlinks and fifos during its build process, and that process is part of building a deb package
[03:13] <Pikkachu> zykotick9: heh
[03:14] <Pikkachu> bob: how to do X? john: you do Y by Z zykotick9: cool, john
[03:14] <Pikkachu> pfifo: man it's working
[03:14] <satyanash> Has anyone used the program called Nitrogen, to set backgrounds? How do I find out which version I have installed ?
[03:14] <Pikkachu> pfifo: cd /media/Dados (the ntfs partition)
[03:15] <DJ> Pikkachu, please behave,
[03:15] <Pikkachu> pfifo: ln -s /media test
[03:15] <Ashtray777> Could anyone tell me if I will be able to use gnome shell if I choose Unity as my GUI?
[03:15] <log> Ashtray777: You can switch to gnome-shell upon login.
[03:15] <Ashtray777> oh ok ty.
[03:15] <Pikkachu> pfifo: it works just fine
[03:16] <log> Ashtray777: You're welcome.
[03:16] <pfifo> Pikkachu, cool story bro
[03:16] <Pikkachu> pfifo: true one
[03:17] <rawfodog> will the latest release of Ubuntu support new wacom tablet models ?
[03:19] <pfifo> rawfodog, no, but if you send it to me Ill write a driver for it :D
[03:19] <gartral> rawfodog: afaik unless the new tablet has some strange new hardware, the current drivers *Should* work
[03:19] <rawfodog> they dont gartral, I just bought the connect today, plugged it in, and nothing ;_;
[03:20] <xj1nxyx> satynash, open nitrogen with terminal and version should display before the program loads.
[03:20] <Dogears> Am I safe to upgrade to virtualbox from virtualbox-4.0 without losing settings.
[03:20] <pfifo> rawfodog, do you have the one with the built in LCD?
[03:20] <rawfodog> no, it is the BAMBOO CTL-470 pfifo
[03:21] <pfifo> rawfodog, have you ever used a tablet in linux before?
[03:21] <gartral> rawfodog: have you looked into upgrading too a newer driver than what's shipped with ubuntu?
[03:22] <rawfodog> gardar, this is the only tutorial to do so, and it's INCREDIBLY difficult to follow. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515562
[03:22] <zykotick9> satyanash: did you install it with U.S.C. or apt-get?  if so you can use "apt-cache policy nitrogen" or "dpkg -l | grep nitrogen" from terminal to find version
[03:22]  * gardar slaps rawfodog
[03:22] <orionsonofneptun> ok how to get lm sensors
[03:23] <zykotick9> !sensors | orionsonofneptun
[03:23] <rawfodog> whoops
[03:23] <rawfodog> lol sorry gardar
[03:23] <rawfodog> gartral, this is the only tutorial to do so, and it's INCREDIBLY difficult to follow. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515562
[03:23] <satyanash> zykotick9, apt-get
[03:23] <zykotick9> satyanash: "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors"
[03:23] <xj1nxyx> any fellow backtrack users in here ?
[03:23] <zykotick9> !backtrack | xj1nxyx
[03:23] <gartral> rawfodog: Yea.. gardar gets grumpy, but are you on the latest ubuntu (11.10)?
[03:24] <rawfodog> yes gartral
[03:24] <satyanash> zykotick9, aah... Thanks.
[03:24] <roasted> Question - with rsync, the man page says there is a -x flag citing "do not leave file system." I've had a lot of rsync issues with .gvfs, where I have to --exclude=.gvfs, otherwise it'll copy .gvfs which is some weird crazy strange cached copy of my destination, so of course it only duplicates unnecesary data. Is the -x flag the same as excluding .gvfs in a way?
[03:24] <satyanash> zykotick9, though I don't get the point of lm-sensors
[03:24] <wubino> so I accidentally uninstalled python via "sudo apt-get remove python"
[03:24] <orionsonofneptun> whats the command
[03:25] <log> orionsonofneptun: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[03:25] <wubino> All was fine for a while until the next login
[03:25] <orionsonofneptun> sudo apt-get lm-sensors???
[03:25] <wubino> unity was gone, not I got it back
[03:25] <wubino> but the gui seems slightly off
[03:26] <zykotick9> roasted: you'd have to test/check, but i doubt rsync will see .gvfs as a separate filesystem... so --exclude is "probably" still needed
[03:26] <pfifo> rawfodog, there should be a wacom drive available from PPA since that thread has been around sine jun 2010, have you searched launchpad?
[03:26] <log> orionsonofneptun: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[03:26] <wubino> the terminal emulator byobu does not allow for right clicks
[03:26] <rawfodog> pfifo, I don'
[03:26] <orionsonofneptun> ok how to check temp
[03:26] <roasted> zykotick9: yeah, I know testing it would be the way to go. Considering the hour of the night, I'm stuck to Googling around for now. Nonetheless, I'm seeing that -x actually might ignore .gvfs... not quite positive though.
[03:26] <xj1nxyx> omg.... mabad yo
[03:26] <pfifo> wat?
[03:27] <rawfodog> t know much about launch pad. what would I be looking for ? isnt launch pad for bugs ? pfifo
[03:27] <pfifo> !PPA | rawfodog
[03:27] <zykotick9> roasted: it could!  i'm certainly only guessing.
[03:27] <zykotick9> wubino: byobu isn't a terminal emulator, it's a wrapper to screen.  Why would it need right clicks?
[03:28] <rawfodog> pfifo, I'm not an advanced ubuntu user, I do not know which ppas will be useful for me.
[03:28] <wubino> zykotick9, thanks for the clarification but normally I can configure text size via menues
[03:28] <wubino> not anymore
[03:28] <zykotick9> wubino: ahhh in xterm yes
[03:28] <wubino> menus
[03:29] <orionsonofneptun> command to check lm-sensor temp?????
[03:29] <wubino> bash commands are no problem but the normal gui functionality is gone
[03:29] <zykotick9> wubino: how are you starting byobu?  use alt+f2 type xterm, then try starting byobu and see if you have rightclick
[03:30] <pfifo> rawfodog, im not sure either but let me take a look
[03:30] <orionsonofneptun> ??????
[03:30] <zykotick9> orionsonofneptun: "sensors"
[03:30] <pfifo> rawfodog, this looks hopeful https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/wacom
[03:31] <wubino> zykotick9, nothing
[03:31] <zykotick9> wubino: if you just start xterm can you right click?
[03:31] <orionsonofneptun> thanks
[03:32] <rawfodog> pfifo, how do I download this ?
[03:32] <wubino> I can right click in other programs with or without xterm
[03:32] <pfifo> rawfodog, well its time to sit down and learn how PPA's work :)
[03:32] <zykotick9> wubino: so it's a byobu issue then.  sorry i can't help, i use the real thing instead - good luck.
[03:32] <wubino> Unity 2d and Unity 3d are not options are login -- just "ubuntu"
[03:33] <pfifo> rawfodog, if you have specific questins were right behind you
[03:33] <wubino> I think this is a gnome, kde , unity problem
[03:33] <T_H_X> wubino:  highlight with mouse and ctrl-shft-c to copy, or ctrl-shft-v to paste in term.
[03:34] <wubino> I already did the unity --restore thing
[03:34] <wubino> T_H_X, like I said normal bash use is fine
[03:34] <rawfodog> pfifo, I added the ppa, and I went to update packages, ubuntu says its up to date
[03:34] <wubino> the gui elements in ubuntu 11.10 are now just slightly off from where I started
[03:35] <hoshi411> isnt there something like aptitude or dpkg or apt-get a package manager that has the power to remove a package while ignoring dependency errors?
[03:35] <pfifo> rawfodog, did you run `sudo apt-get update`
[03:35] <zykotick9> hoshi411: that would make no sense...
[03:35] <kah> hey, can you not use quotations in Tomboy notes?
[03:36] <rawfodog> pfifo, yes, still says no updates
[03:36] <kah> nvm, looks like i just found out my keyboard is focked
[03:36] <kah> ;;;//..////
[03:36] <pfifo> rawfodog, how exactly did you add the ppa?
[03:37] <rawfodog> synaptic pfifo
[03:39] <zykotick9> !addppa | rawfodog adding with synaptic probably doesn't add the required key
[03:39] <pfifo> rawfodog,  run this `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:irie/wacom` then this `sudo apt-get update` then this `sudo apt-get upgrade` then this `sudo apt-get install input-wacom wacom-source xf86-input-wacom`
[03:40] <rawfodog> pfifo, "Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/irie-wacom-oneiric.list
[03:40] <rawfodog> "
[03:41] <pfifo> rawfodog, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/irie-wacom-oneiric.list file then
[03:43] <rawfodog> pfifo, there was a ain at the end of the file, I just deleted it
[03:43] <rawfodog> pfifo, i get a lot of errors , "Unable to locate package input-wacom
[03:43] <zykotick9> rawfodog: was it on it's own line?  i'd guess it was suppose to be "main"
[03:43] <rawfodog> "
[03:43] <James78> Anyone familiar with fsck, I got a message, "There are differences between boot sector and its backup.", what do the options mean? "1) Copy original to backup 2) Copy backup to original"
[03:44] <rawfodog> it was on a line of its own zykotick9 , should I add MAIN ?
[03:44] <pfifo> rawfodog, :) also int the descript it says to `sudo apt-get install wacom-dkms xserver-xorg-input-wacom`
[03:44] <zykotick9> rawfodog: no just leave it for now, but it might be missing something
[03:45] <hoshi411> zykotick9: so there isnt a way to do this? it only makes sense if you are experimenting and learning... picking things apart and tweaking stuff
[03:45] <hoshi411> im not asking for troubleshooting advice or anything like that
[03:45] <Drakal> Hi, Someone of you have Asus G53SX' s laptop?
[03:45] <pfifo> hoshi411, investigate `dpkg --force-all`
[03:46] <orionsonofneptun> ok guys im trying to get minicom but i get error in terminal
[03:46] <zykotick9> hoshi411: perhaps you aren't clear what a dependency is?  gnu/linux is a bunch of little pieces, and some rely on others to work - you're trying to break that?
[03:46] <rawfodog> http://pastebin.com/ZyLfNRbt pfifo zykotick9
[03:46] <orionsonofneptun> what is the way to get it
[03:46] <orionsonofneptun> ubuntu 11.10
[03:46] <hoshi411> im asking hypothetically: is there a package manager that can ignore everything and delete the packages you request it to delete? that's all. there either is one or there is nt one
[03:46] <pfifo> rawfodog, You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:46] <Kyouko-chan> hi
[03:46] <hoshi411> zykotick9: yes hypothetically I would want to break that
[03:47] <hoshi411> just hypothetically asking if this is possible
[03:47] <hoshi411> no need to get all worked up about this
[03:47] <zykotick9> hoshi411: why would anyone make such a thing?  no package manager will intentionally break dependencies... doesn't make ANY sense, so why would it?
[03:47] <hoshi411> does this exist or not ... simple
[03:47] <pfifo> hoshi411, yes
[03:47] <rawfodog> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/qhKrXEeL
[03:47] <babble> a *package manager* won't do it for you, but you can do it yourself.
[03:47] <hoshi411> zykotick9: pfifo seems to say this exists
[03:47] <James78> dpkg -r --force-all package
[03:48] <babble> if you really really want to break your system, yes, you can just run dpkg manually.
[03:48] <hoshi411> pfifo: and James78 thank you very much : )
[03:48] <James78> Warning: Risks involved. In can break your system.
[03:48] <hoshi411> babble:  yes hypothetically I would want to break my machine or it was already broken
[03:48] <hoshi411> but hypothetically this is a machine for experimentation anyways
[03:48] <babble> again, what you want isn't really the purpose of a package manager.
[03:49] <hoshi411> babble: I see , yes that would make sense : )
[03:49] <babble> if you want to break your system, you can, but you aren't going to find a sane package manager that will do it for you
[03:49] <pfifo> rawfodog, im not sure, whats going wrong search in the software center for wacom related stuff, perhaps is named something different
[03:50] <Kyoko-chan> why does my internet connection slow down/disconnect when my laptop is not connected? =/
[03:50] <James78> hoshi411: Running dpkg like that can be very useful when you need to completely remove (purge) a package, and install it again, but ignoring all the dependencies it tries to force you to remove. :)
[03:50] <hoshi411> babble: ok so my use of the word package manager was not ... or my question was not worded correclty but thank you
[03:51] <babble> hoshi411: I'm not trying to play word police -- just trying to get at what it is you actually want to do
[03:51] <rawfodog> pfifo, nothing.
[03:51] <rawfodog> pfifo, thanks anyway
[03:52] <Kyoko-chan> why does my internet connection slow down/disconnect when my laptop is not connected? =/
[03:52] <pfifo> one time i install libc from a redhat 9 rpm using apt2rpm and dpkg, my system made it 10 minutes until complete meltdown
[03:52] <hoshi411> babble: but im not looking for support... it was just a hypothetical question....  i just want to hypothetically delete a package without having any error tell me I shouldnt
[03:52] <hammommah> is there anyway to get xrandr to use my onboard gpu and ati card? ati native driver doesnt support my ati card so im stuck with open source driver?
[03:52] <Kyoko-chan> ...
[03:52] <Scunizi> Kyoko-chan: that doesn't make any sense unless you're trying to get to the internet from the laptop that is "disconnected"
[03:52] <hoshi411> if there were a time when I would want to do that, then I would want to know how
[03:54] <Kyoko-chan> well, yes, perhaps I didn't use the right words
[03:54] <hoshi411> it just amazes me how linux which is a OS built around the principal of having access to eveyrthing in the system for experiment and learning reasons , why some people would get so worked up about experimentation and learning... breaking for the sake of breaking.. breaking for the sake of fixing. opening what you shouldnt and pulling and rearranging. this is what linux is for
[03:54] <hoshi411> specially if i have  a box designated for this activity
[03:55] <James78> Virtual Machine. :)
[03:55] <Kyoko-chan> when it's plugged to the charger I don't have any problems, but when I unplug it its connection slows down a lot, or it even disconnects for a while
[03:55] <babble> hoshi411: sure, but I just wanted to make sure you understood the implications of that, and to get *why* no real package manager is going to break your system for you.
[03:56] <Scunizi> Kyoko-chan: sounds like a power saving mechanism that's kicking in.. not really sure what to do about that..
[03:56] <James78> hoshi411: If you're not using a Virtual Machine, you might want to look into one. Specifically VirtualBox. It'll make your life MUCH more simple.
[03:56] <Kyoko-chan> yeah, that's what I've been told x_x
[03:56] <Kyoko-chan> someone said it was related to the kernel
[03:56] <Kyoko-chan> but I know nothing about configuring the kernel
[03:56] <wired_> this might be a silly question, but Virtualbox is similar to what a VNC client does, no?
[03:56] <Scunizi> Kyoko-chan: have you checked the forums for you laptop and network connectivity?  ubuntuforums.org
[03:57] <Scunizi> wired_: no..
[03:57] <Kyoko-chan> not really, I'll try xD
[03:57] <zykotick9> wired_: no.  VNC is remote access.  VBox is virtualization
[03:57] <wired_> i see. thanks.
[03:57] <Kyoko-chan> VirtualBox lets you have a guest OS within your OS
[03:58] <babble> hoshi411: well, the point is that all you're going to get with a broken dependency is either an app that won't launch or a desktop environment that won't load.
[03:58] <babble> I mean, sure, you can *do* that, but it's a bit like ripping the wings off of a moth, just to make sure it can't fly once you do
[03:59] <James78> Anyone familiar with fsck, I got a message, "There are differences between boot sector and its backup.", what do the options mean? "1) Copy original to backup 2) Copy backup to original"
[03:59] <babble> if it entertains you, by all means, break your system all day long
[03:59] <babble> but it won't (it seems) give you much in the way of useful information beyond, "yep. Doesn't work now."
[04:02] <hiexpo> never get a thank you ?
[04:02] <rawfodog> pfifo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889203&highlight=wacom+ctl+470 ?
[04:03] <wired_> he might just want to know, despite whether or not the information is "useful" ...
[04:03] <pfifo> rawfodog, thats building from source, which will work too
[04:04] <rawfodog> so far so good, except I get this error, maybe you know what I'm doing wrong ... http://pastebin.com/4f2BSkCc
[04:05] <rawfodog> pfifo, nm its because there was a space in the folder name
[04:08] <rawfodog> pfifo, guess whos got a working wacom tablet ?
[04:08] <rawfodog> pfifo, thanks for all the help ;)
[04:09] <Kyoko-chan> sigh
[04:15] <orionsonofneptun> how do i get minicom
[04:15] <orionsonofneptun> terminal throws error i need a different way or simalir program
[04:15] <Dulak> orionsonofneptun: sudo apt-get install minicom
[04:16] <L3top> !info mesa-utils
[04:19] <orionsonofneptun> ok anyone know where to get support for minicom what channel????
[04:20] <orionsonofneptun> orion@orion:~$ minicom
[04:20] <orionsonofneptun> minicom: cannot open /dev/tty8: Permission denied
[04:20] <orionsonofneptun> orion@orion:~$
[04:20] <scientes> How do i fix the problem where apt tries to get compressed "Packages" files which launchpad doesn't host
[04:20] <cliff_> Hello, I just installed and updated ubuntu 11.10 and I am unable to see my laptop battery icon. My laptop is a Satellite L655
[04:21] <goddard> is anyone else tired of all the different IM clients ?
[04:21] <goddard> why cant one just work and stay working
[04:22] <orionsonofneptun> im so sorry youve got a toshiba lol
[04:22] <orionsonofneptun> i hate my toshiba
[04:22] <babble> goddard: I use (and like) Pidgin, but what are you having trouble with?
[04:22] <quebre> goddard: pidgin
[04:22] <wired_> goddard: Pidgin always worked for me
[04:22] <goddard> video chatting
[04:22] <cliff_> lol.. i am starting to hate it
[04:22] <quebre> im is not video chatting
[04:22] <quebre> ^.-
[04:22] <goddard> empathy doesn't seem to work
[04:23] <cliff_> My GF gave it to me.. Is there a fix to show the battery?
[04:23] <ssfdre38> i got a public key error on a chroot http://paste.ssfdre38.com/70 and how can i get the key on it
[04:23] <orionsonofneptun> im trying to install ubuntu on toshiba sattelite m45-s625 it sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[04:23] <quebre> at the moment there is nothing better than pidgin
[04:23] <goddard> quebre: haven't heard the new term for it then i guesss
[04:23] <orionsonofneptun> the bios is possibly fighting it
[04:24] <orionsonofneptun> or the hardware
[04:24] <goddard> pidgin does video chat good with macs and pcs?
[04:24] <quebre> BIOS WARRIOR
[04:24] <cliff_> everything else seems to work ok. It would be nice to see where the battery is at
[04:24] <quebre> ;>
[04:24] <orionsonofneptun> stupid bios
[04:24] <cliff_> It worked when I had windows on this. Would that cross out the bios/hardware?
[04:24] <babble> for video chat, I use google chat in chrome or skype.
[04:25] <cliff_> i seen on a google search that there was a kernel patch for toshiba batteries but it was a bit old and I was unable to get it going anyways
[04:25] <ssfdre38> orionsonofneptun, have you tired doing a live cd to see what it is
[04:25] <orionsonofneptun> ive got ubcd
[04:25] <orionsonofneptun> and reset cmos
[04:26] <ssfdre38> just boot it into the desktop and dont try to install it
[04:26] <orionsonofneptun> and tested memory and cpu
[04:26] <goddard> quebre: maybe some one should fix this then
[04:26] <goddard> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
[04:26] <sacarlson> orionsonofneptun: not sure why you need minicom; but I was able to bring it up with sudo minicom ;  as seems my tty8 is restricted
[04:26] <orionsonofneptun> ubuntu 11.10 boots and when i pick try without install it shuts off and restarts
[04:27] <orionsonofneptun> sacarlson  ok
[04:27] <brando753> Alright I have gotten a lot of crashes on my laptop every day and I think I want to switch to debian, the only problem I can think of is my /home directory is encrypted and I wish to keep it in tack will this pose a problem?
[04:27] <Dogears> That was messy, to upgrade virtualbox from 4.0 to 4.1 you have to upgrade which removes 4.0
[04:28] <goddard> brando753: there is a laptop testing team maybe you could join and submit your bug reports
[04:28] <Dogears> then the new version is not listed on the Unity desktop
[04:28] <orionsonofneptun> ok imin minicomm
[04:28] <orionsonofneptun> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[04:28] <gartral> brando753: one, I reccomend seeking out the Laptop Testing Team. and 2: it *shouldn't* be a problem, but i've never attempted such
[04:29] <Dogears> So remove all and install the latest from the virtualbox site!
[04:29] <orionsonofneptun> ok where to get support useing minicomm to flash bios via vga serial connection
[04:30] <orionsonofneptun> channel????
[04:31] <ultrixx> what is a vga serial connection?
[04:31] <sacarlson> orionsonofneptun: i've never heard of minocomm used to flash a bios;  most bios flash a self booting disks that only flash or run in windows or dos6
[04:31] <orionsonofneptun> monitor cable r232
[04:31] <Kyoko-chan> Scunizi: I sorta fixed it, sudo pm-powersave false xD
[04:31] <Kyoko-chan> thanks for your help =D
[04:31] <ultrixx> orionsonofneptun: vga and serial port might look quite similiar, but they are entirely diffenrent interfaces
[04:32] <orionsonofneptun> i know a engeneer that says this is going down son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:32] <dead-laptop> I can't get X to start at all anymore - can anyone help?
[04:32] <orionsonofneptun> r232
[04:32] <orionsonofneptun> port
[04:32] <ultrixx> orionsonofneptun: you are a troll
[04:32] <goddard> dead-laptop: what did you do before this happened?
[04:33] <dead-laptop> My laptop screen died, so I connected an external monitor to it - but it's still not working.
[04:33] <ultrixx> please kick orionsonofneptun he insulted me
[04:33] <dead-laptop> (oh and my graphics card dissapeared from lspci)
[04:34] <orionsonofneptun> lol
[04:35] <dead-laptop> This is what Xorg.0.log says for startx: http://pastebin.com/XucfE3s5
[04:37] <orionsonofneptun> ok where to get support???
[04:38] <orionsonofneptun> its ubuntu minicom and bios 1.70 knowedge
[04:38] <orionsonofneptun> knowledge
[04:39] <goddard> dead-laptop: i know with my setup i have to tell nvidia settings manager to enable the display
[04:40] <dead-laptop> I can't even launch nvidia settings. There is no X.
[04:40] <goddard> since you dont have a display you probably have to enable it yourself with the correct settings which may or may not be difficult
[04:40] <dead-laptop> Yes... that's my issue.
[04:40] <goddard> ive never ran into this issue but at least you know a possible work around now
[04:41] <dead-laptop> I don't have any work arounds
[04:41] <dead-laptop> Neither the laptop screen nor the monitor come on.
[04:41] <orionsonofneptun> dead-laptop im assuming its a laptop that dont work ??? just to clarify
[04:41] <goddard> and a live cd doesn't help?
[04:41] <dead-laptop> Laptop is working, the monitor isn't
[04:41] <navchauhan> hi
[04:41] <orionsonofneptun> the laptop monitor???
[04:41] <navchauhan> help me
[04:41] <dead-laptop> Yeah
[04:41] <orionsonofneptun> ok
[04:42] <hoshi411> James78: it appears that even dpkg -r --force-all will not remove packages sometimes. "dpkg unrecoverable error aborting" why would it abort removing something when I forced it to do so O_o if I want to destroy my system , shouldnt I be allowed to? "libreoffice-writer is missing final newline" it tells me... so what? just delete it ..... O_o
[04:42] <navchauhan> plz help me
[04:42] <navchauhan> hi mrono
[04:42] <Mrono> I'm having issues with upstart, anyone know how to make an upstart job
[04:42] <Mrono> I put in a .conf file and it's not recognizing it
[04:43] <navchauhan> plz help me
[04:43] <orionsonofneptun> dead-laptop ive got a rookie fix for you get a new mb lol
[04:43] <babble> hoshi411: what you want to do doesn't really make any sense, which is why there are safeguards against it.
[04:43] <babble> if you really really want to nuke something you know is going to break your system, sudo and rm it
[04:43] <babble> but again, why? just because you can?
[04:44] <navchauhan> how can i connect my laptop to bluetooth
[04:44] <babble> I mean, fine, go ahead, but beyond affirming to yourself that it's within your power to break your system, I fail to see what this accomplishes.
[04:44] <navchauhan> hi orphan
[04:45] <navchauhan> my bluetooth is not working on my laptop
[04:45] <navchauhan> i m using lenove y410 in ubuntu 11.10
[04:46] <James78> hoshi411: I think this has to do with broken dependencies (which would happen after force removing too many packages). I've only ever used dpkg --force-all in order to do some package manipulations I couldn't do otherwise, thus saving me from it killing my system (remove and reinstall a package without getting rid of dependencies).
[04:47] <babble> or, that - I hadn't thought about that.
[04:47] <babble> so, huzzah, hoshi411, you've very likely accomplished your goal.
[04:49] <navchauhan> hi babble
[04:50] <Pirsch> Hi all. I have two offices in the same building, just different floors. I would be very happy if I could somehow access the pc in my other office. It's would save me a lot of travel time. How can I do this?
[04:51] <Pirsch> I've tried 'Desktop' sharing but I see no indicators or have any idea how to use this. Is it the right program?
[04:51] <navchauhan> go to hell
[04:52] <dead-laptop> Pirsch: I'm not certain of what is the easiest way to go about this.
[04:52] <sacarlson> Pirsch: by what manner do each system connect to the internet?  are they on the same local network?
[04:53] <Pirsch> To be honest, I am not sure but when I brought one pc down from upstairs it connected to the net without changing any settings.
[04:54] <Pirsch> There's also a program called 'Remote Desktop Sharing'. Might that work?
[04:54] <sacarlson> Pirsch: from that I assume it's using ethernet so try ifconfig on each to identify what your ip address is on each and see if you can ping between each
[04:54] <Pirsch> In Terminal?
[04:55] <sacarlson> Pirsch: yes term
[04:56] <Pirsch> It is ethernet (eth0). But what should I be looking for?
[04:56] <sacarlson> Pirsch: if they ping then you can ssh into and share files or many other methods of exchange
[04:56] <orionsonofneptun> i beleave thier is a way to send it threw vga cable into mb somehow i need to study it more   this is tough ubuntu install
[04:57] <sacarlson> persh   inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS> ;  the inet address as this is an example
[04:57] <Pirsch> My IT guy is Windows-conditioned and somewhat unfamiliar with Linux. Should he be able to figure this out if I show him ifconfig?
[04:57] <Pirsch> I know very little about net and connections.
[04:58] <Pirsch> brb
[04:58] <sacarlson> Pirsch: in windows world they use the command ipconfig ;  I assume both systems are ubuntu as you didn't state other
[04:58] <Pirsch> Yes, both are 11.10
[04:59] <Pirsch> So he should be able to figure this out then
[04:59] <Pirsch> brb
[05:03] <xds_> hello
[05:13] <whoisthis> damn I'm silly...I have tar.gz.001, .tar.gz.002 etc. archives
[05:13] <whoisthis> how do I unpack them?
[05:13] <whoisthis> (It's split archive)
[05:19] <econnell> what's the command to upgrade to the beta?
[05:20] <econnell> apt-get --[what magic here]?
[05:20] <hawks008> econnell: go to http://www.ubuntu.com/testing and look there
[05:21] <econnell> oh... i need to swtich everythig to precise in the apt conf
[05:26] <esuave> got a question, so i can telnet on port 22 to my server but cannot ssh..
[05:26] <esuave> i am able to ssh for a few hours.. than when i come back to it.. it wont let me ssh.. it times out
[05:26] <esuave> any ideas?
[05:27] <esuave> same thing for httpd, port 80.. it times out.. but i can still telnet
[05:27] <esuave> its almost like the computer is going in to some kind of sleep mode or something?
[05:28] <sacarlson> esuave: maybe your running dhcp  and your ip changes over time
[05:29] <esuave> no cause i can still ping/telnet on those ports
[05:29] <esuave> so the IP is staying the same
[05:29] <esuave> so basically for me to get it to work again i have to reboot the server
[05:30]  * cruzin_cruzing slaps ZsoL around a bit with a large trout
[05:31] <sacarlson> esuave: how can you run two services on the same port 22?
[05:32] <esuave> no i can telnet on port 80 and port 22
[05:32] <esuave> but i cannot ssh to the box.. nor is httpd running
[05:32] <esuave> its almost like the computer has gone in to some kind of sleep mode?
[05:32] <dj_segfault> Are SATA drives hot pluggable in Ubuntu 10.04LTS?  Can I connect one after the system has started?
[05:33] <sacarlson> esuave: I guess look localy at the logs and see what activity it might be
[05:33] <paulus68> Hi, is there a way to retrieve data from a drive that is formatted with Darik's Boot and Nuke (DBAN) 1.0.7 or is this a waste of time
[05:35] <jguzikowski> Will installing by Wubi have any effect on performance/installation negatively?
[05:39] <Fyodorovna> jguzikowski, runs slightly slower and is a file in windows rather the a install to a partition.
[05:39] <sacarlson> paulus68: I have to assume it is designed for non recoverable so not very lickly
[05:40] <jguzikowski> Is it worth it to just try to install via USB/CD?
[05:40] <paulus68> sacarlson: ok thx
[05:41] <Fyodorovna> jguzikowski, That is a personal decision really.
[05:42] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver. I ju
[05:42] <frankpad> st need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[05:42] <jguzikowski> True,  just don't have a flash drive or a CD burner anymore so I thought I'd just stick with Wubi But I don't want to deal with performance issues if that's the case :)
[05:43] <Fyodorovna> jguzikowski, if your running windows being without a way to boot a recovery disc is not safe, as well as it backed up.
[05:44] <zykotick9> dj_segfault: i always had to reboot to connect my eSATA drive :|  hot swap SATA depends on your mothboard's sata controller, some will work others wont
[05:45] <dj_segfault> Ah.  Thanks.  I have a problem adding one more sata drive to my system and I wanted to see if it was a power problem by plugging in the new drive after boot, when everything is taking less power.  I guess I won't try it then.
[05:47] <jguzikowski> I've got everything backed up on Dropbox and am quick to format :P
[05:48] <paulus68> is there a good tutorial about ssh to work with keyfiles and which can be safely tested remotely(meaning I can only connect remotely to my server using putty) and make sure that I don't log myself out :p
[05:48] <jguzikowski> Anyway thanks for the help all, have a good night
[05:51] <Aesthenaut> I've been trying to run a few games in wine, both said to work perfectly wih it
[05:51] <Aesthenaut> none of them launch. Wine and Ubuntu are up to date nonbetas
[05:51] <Aesthenaut> as are the installers :<
[05:52] <Aesthenaut> I've marked them as executable
[05:52] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver.
[05:52] <frankpad>  I just need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[05:53] <Aesthenaut> though that's likely more of a #wine problem. I will take it there
[05:58] <econnell-NotInX> is there a  nightly cd i can burn?
[05:59] <sambagirl> why would you want to burn nightly cd's? that would be 365 cd's with minimal changes in reality
[06:00] <econnell-NotInX> well... because i'm sitting at a terminal and x failed to load
[06:01] <sambagirl> oh so you just mean to burn 1 nightly cd meaning tonights correct?
[06:01] <econnell-NotInX> yes
[06:01] <econnell-NotInX> can someoen give a link for it?
[06:01] <sambagirl> ok
[06:01] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver.
[06:01] <frankpad>  I just need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[06:02] <Fyodorovna> frankpad, a 10 min repost is asked for on this channel.
[06:02] <sambagirl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[06:02] <sambagirl> there you go
[06:02] <econnell-NotInX> sambagirl: thanks
[06:02] <sambagirl> your welcome
[06:02] <econnell-NotInX> is that the actual iso?
[06:03] <sambagirl> yes
[06:03] <sambagirl> it's there in the directory
[06:03] <Yigabu> I hate niggers!
[06:03] <Yigabu> However, I want one with a huge dick!
[06:03] <Yigabu> to fuck me in the ass!
[06:03] <FloodBot1> Yigabu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:04] <sambagirl> what an ass
[06:04] <sambagirl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.iso
[06:04] <Yigabu> who here is a nigger?
[06:04] <sambagirl> dunno what your architecture is
[06:04] <sambagirl> what a pig
[06:04] <rhom> Is there the way to get the user name in a script in sudo mode?
[06:04] <Fyodorovna> !ops | Yigabu
[06:04] <econnell-NotInX> sambagirl: negative... that's an html link :(
[06:05] <sambagirl> well here is the directory
[06:05] <econnell-NotInX> i need the link to the amd64 iso
[06:05] <rhom> Is there the way to get the user name in  a script running on sudo mode?
[06:05] <sambagirl> ok
[06:05] <sambagirl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:06] <econnell-NotInX> sambagirl: perfect... thank you
[06:06] <sambagirl>  your welcome
[06:07] <Braden`> Hllo
[06:07] <Braden`> Hello even
[06:08] <sambagirl> hello
[06:08] <Braden`> http://pastebin.com/nUuBw20t <--- I can't get grub-pc to uninstall and grub2 to reinstall
[06:10] <Fyodorovna> Braden`, you trying to reload grub2
[06:10] <sambagirl> i see amd64 will the xeon dual core stuff run that? since i dont see a intel64
[06:10] <Braden`> yea
[06:10] <sambagirl> ok
[06:10] <sambagirl> so eventhough these os's may say amd64 it covers all 64bit computers?
[06:10] <Braden`> I was trying to enable selinux, but it doesn't like my reiserfs
[06:11] <Fyodorovna> Braden`, apt-get purge grub-pc grub-common && apt-get install grub-pc grub-common
[06:11] <oooaaaooo> hi guys is there a release schedule on ubuntu's webpage?
[06:12] <Braden`>  GRUB failed to install to the following devices:   /dev/simfs
[06:15] <lawltoad> any one ever use apt-get build-deps ?
[06:15] <hydrox24> yes, but only rarely
[06:16] <lawltoad> any advice on how to keep my system clean after the fact? a way to get rid of them all
[06:16] <lawltoad> ?
[06:16] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver.
[06:16] <frankpad>  I just need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[06:18] <hydrox24> lawltoad: if you type "apt-cache showsrc *package*" and then look under the build-deps line, that should be a good list of stuff to remove. Not the best solution, but it may be helpful.
[06:18] <ghost0xff> anyone here use ettercap on ubuntu?
[06:18] <ghost0xff> 10.04 specifically
[06:18] <hydrox24> ghost0xff: yes,why?
[06:18] <ghost0xff> hydrox24: because, for the life of me, I cant get it to do replace() in filters
[06:19] <ghost0xff> It sees the traffic, runs the filter, even runs the replace function, but the new packet never makes it to the net
[06:19] <hydrox24> ghost0xff: sorry, I am not that advanced with ettercap, only really at the script-kiddy level with things to do with ettercap...
[06:19] <hydrox24> ghost0xff: maybe turn on ip forwarding in the system?
[06:19] <ghost0xff> hydrox24: tried that :(
[06:20] <ghost0xff> both on and off
[06:20] <hydrox24> ghost0xff: make sure you did it right (always worth being thorough, no?) http://www.ducea.com/2006/08/01/how-to-enable-ip-forwarding-in-linux/
[06:20] <hydrox24> frankpad: looking into the issue now.
[06:20] <frankpad> Thank you
[06:21] <hydrox24> frankpad: is this your bug report? if not, try submitting that you are having a similar issue and also submit the info you pastebinned.
[06:21] <hydrox24> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/948773
[06:21] <ghost0xff> hydrox24: correct me if im wrong, but it should be disabled for ettercap to work locally
[06:21] <Jigaboo> I wan tot get fucked in the ass by five niggers
[06:21] <Jigaboo> until my asshole starts bleeding
[06:21] <Viking667> how do I reload the sound?  I wish I had Ops privileges sometimes...
[06:29] <soreau> drounse: you said you had to 'switch nic pci adapter', does that mean you were using another PCI NIC card to connect?
[06:29] <drounse> i used a gigabit adapter before and took it out and put in a different one
[06:29] <hydrox24> Braden`: you still there?
[06:30] <hydrox24> Braden`: I would recommend typing fdisk -l as root and seeing what comes up with the boot column flagged (with a "*")
[06:31] <hydrox24> olli: having issues with suspend/resume is common in linux, you'll need to look into the issue as something specific to you computer and even BIOS version.
[06:31] <Viking667> Oh, I don't have ops priv.
[06:31] <hydrox24> How can I apply for getting ops?
[06:31] <hydrox24> Viking667: I know.
[06:31] <soreau> hydrox24: try #ubuntu-ops
[06:32] <hydrox24> Viking667: I understand the whole !ops thing, just which I was an OP.
[06:32] <hydrox24> soreau: thanks!
[06:32] <Viking667> heh.
[06:35] <econnell-fail> yeah so.... my upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 is full of fail :)
[06:36] <frankpad> hydrox24, I specified that the same bug affects me and sumbitted the diagnostic logs as a comment. What can I do now?
[06:43] <frankpad> I need help with an issue with printer HP LasetJet Professional M1132 MFP. I know it is software-related because I can make photocopies with the multifunctional printer and I can print one print job after restarting both Ubuntu and the printer. Also, I can print from Adobe Flash (for example, I printed sample pages from a book by Oxford University Press) and the Ubuntu test page comes out well, too. I know the printer is supported by the HPLIP driver.
[06:43] <frankpad>  I just need some know-how with the scheduler or something. After a restart, the printer will only print one print job and then it will not print anymore. Here is the output of the HP diagnostic tool: http://paste.ubuntu.com/889592/ Any help will be highly appreciated.
[06:44] <hydrox24> frankpad: just wait on the bug report, it is still relatively fresh so there is still hope, however please don't re submit your issue like that, it is considered spam
[06:44] <frankpad> okay
[06:45] <hydrox24> wait atleast an hour so almost everyone active on the channel is different, more likely to get your problem solved too.
[06:45] <frankpad> Alright then. Thank you for the tip
[06:51] <Cache_Money> I just installed Ubuntu alongside my Windows 7 OS but when I went to restart I'm not presented with the option of choosing which OS I want to run.  It boots straight into Windows.  How do I get back into Ubuntu?
[06:52] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   reinstall gru
[06:52] <CFHowlett_> *grub*
[06:52] <infam0us> I can't get the resolution in ubuntu to 1280X1024, i installed the nvidia drivers. I also recently installed ubuntu for the first time, so i'm not too familiar with linux yet
[06:52] <CFHowlett_> !grub|Cache_Money
[06:52] <neonkidxy> Hey What does no apic mean?
[06:53] <Jon--> For some reason software centre isn't prompting me about distribution upgrade. I prefer to do them from there instead of using apt CLI. How can I force a GUI distribution upgrade?
[06:53] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_: I used a USB to install.  Should I go back into Ubuntu through the USB?
[06:53] <Flannel> Jon--: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[06:53] <CFHowlett_> Jon--   what versoin of ubuntu?
[06:53] <Jon--> Flannel, 11.04
[06:54] <Jon--> I want to move to 11.10
[06:54] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   yep, that's the preferred method.  I've done it..
[06:54] <neonkidxy> What does no acpi mean? I need it to install ubuntu, but now I'm trying to install linux mint.
[06:54] <CFHowlett_> !mint|neonkidxy
[06:55] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  what does the xxx mean in $ sudo grub-install /dev/XXX  ??
[06:55] <Jon--> CFHowlett_, Flannel, any ideas?
[06:56] <Flannel> Jon--: Are you completely up to date in 11.04?  Can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` ?
[06:56] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   well on mine, it's SDA.  Take a look at system>administration>disk utility to find your hdd's name
[06:57] <Muse> Cache_Money: your drive, /dev/sda for first drive of the disk, /dev/sdb for second one
[06:57] <Jon--> Flannel, I want to use GUI to do the dist upgrade. I am completely up to date besides that.
[06:57] <hydrox24> infam0us: have you looked at the nvidia setting specifically yet?
[06:57] <Flannel> Jon--: That's fine.  That command won't move you from 11.04 to 11.10, it's just an easy way for me to check on a few things that might be causing issues.
[06:57] <Jon--> Flannel, will do.
[06:57] <Flannel> Jon--: If you're up to date, it won't take more than a couple seconds, etc, etc.
[06:58] <Jon--> I understand :P
[06:58] <dead-laptop> When using SSH forwarding, what is the proper value to set $DISPLAY to on the host machine?
[06:58] <dead-laptop> Er, X11 forwarding.
[06:58] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  alright, thanks for the tips... I'm going back in
[06:58] <Jon--> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/KEEGZJ9h
[06:59] <Jon--> That is the end of the output
[06:59] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   see http://imagebin.org/204161
[06:59] <Jon--> And yes I know, I have a shit-ton of PPAs... I should clean them at some point ^_^
[07:02] <Jon--> Flannel, I know you might be in the middle of something but I'd like to get the dist upgrade rolling so I can go to sleep... apt-get install didn't prompt me to do one, lsb_release -a report 11.04.
[07:05] <Flannel> Jon--: You certainly have a bunch of PPAs and other sources making this long :)  I don't see any reason you wouldn't be updating.  Lets take a look at update-manager-core, pastebin `apt-cache policy update-manager-core`
[07:05] <pepiko> hello
[07:05] <CFHowlett_> pepiko   greetings
[07:06] <Jon--> flhttp://pastebin.com/1d0PcFyp
[07:06] <Jon--> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/1d0PcFyp
[07:06] <paulus68> is there a good tutorial about ssh to work with keyfiles and which can be safely tested remotely(meaning I can only connect remotely to my server using putty) and make sure that I don't log myself out :p
[07:07] <infam0us> hydrox21: can i pm you cause i was writing but i noticed that it was a bit too long and i don't wanna post it here
[07:07] <yoshimi-pink> anyone know how to log into wifi with command line?
[07:07] <Jon--> paulus68, As long as sshd isn't set to only allow keyed access (allow a password fallback), you won't lock yourself out. I don't know a tutorial though, no
[07:08] <paulus68> Jon--: how do you create this password fallback feature do you know?
[07:09] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  Here's a screen shot of my disk utility  imagebin.org/204162   I think possibly something went wrong during the partitioning process
[07:09] <ZenMaster> Anyone awake currently framiliar with Joomla2.5?
[07:09] <yoshimi-pink> I was wanting to connect to a wireless network with command line, witht he password and everything
[07:09] <Flannel> Jon--: Yeah, that's the right version.  Lets try forcing it... in a gnome-terminal (or whatever), gksudo update-manager -c --dist-upgrade
[07:09] <Flannel> -c tells it to explicitly check for new versions, the latter will also try to make that happen.
[07:09] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money    do you have more than 1 hard drive attached to this computer?
[07:10] <Ghrim> when i do swapon -a i get this error: swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: stat failed: No such file or directory ....... whats going on?
[07:10] <Jon--> paulus68, I think as long as sshd_config has PasswordAuthentication yes  you should be fine.
[07:10] <paulus68> Jon--: ok
[07:10] <Cache_Money> I have one hard drive, 1TB, during the Ubuntu install I chose to have 512gb for Ubuntu and the rest for Windows (~465gb)
[07:11] <bluefrog> paulus68, create your key files    ssh-keygen -t rsa
[07:11] <Jon--> Flannel, You needed to quote that argument to gksudo, thought the c flag was for it :P
[07:11] <Jon--> Flannel, It's running now
[07:11] <bluefrog> paulus68, export it to your server   ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/id_rsa.pub user@server
[07:11] <Flannel> Jon--: eh, yeah, you do.  Wonder why you had to do that though.
[07:12] <Jon--> Flannel, Your sys is up to date...
[07:12] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   what happened when you tried to install grub to /dev/sda ??
[07:12] <Jon--> Flannel, To show you I am not crazy http://pastebin.com/TxEUMFyx
[07:13] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  I haven't tried it yet because I was trying to determine which /dev/xxx to install to.  Should I just do $ sudo grub-install /dev/sda  ??
[07:13] <Flannel> Jon--: Oh bother.  Ok... Lets check.... check the contents of /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades (text file), most of it is comments, what does the one line say?
[07:13] <Flannel> Jon--: No, you already showed that to me with the apt-get :)  (That's one reason I ask!)
[07:13] <paulus68> bluefrog: brb
[07:13] <Jon--> Flannel, jon@jonnixbox:~$ cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | grep -v '#' -> [DEFAULT]  Prompt=normal
[07:14] <Jon--> Looks like std config
[07:14] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   that would be my solution - of course i have a simpler arrangement than yours.  Go for it.  If it works, cool,  If not,you'll still have all your data, you'll just need to fumble a bit with grub's configuration to get ti bootin correctly
[07:15] <Flannel> Jon--: Yeah, I have no idea.  Just for yucks, lets give update-manager-core a try.  `sudo update-manager-core`  It'll prompt you a few times before doing any upgrades, so you can cancel it if you don't want to upgrade via command line.
[07:15] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_:  after running the above command it said "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)."
[07:15] <Jon--> Flannel, Is there any added benefit to GUI? I feel like it's a more safe/streamlined process, but maybe I'm just being deceived by fancy gfx ;).
[07:16] <CFHowlett_> !grub>cache-money
[07:16] <monser> hello, I'm lucid and I'd like to have some of the latest libraries that are available only to the newest version of ubuntu.I ca download them as a packages.Is there a way to add repository or something that will give me the option to see them in package manager?
[07:16] <Jon--> Flannel, update-manager-core: command not found
[07:16] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   follow the tutorial for reinstalling grub after windows.
[07:17] <CFHowlett_> monser   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should capture all the packages currently in the stream
[07:17] <Flannel> Jon--: update-manager-core does the same things as regular update-manager... why don't you have it.
[07:17] <paulus68> bluefrog: back little question since this should be for a backup user do I need to enter a pass or not?
[07:17] <Flannel> Wait, wait wait.
[07:17] <Jon--> Flannel, I haven't manually removed any of the software center/update packages. I don't know.
[07:18] <Jon--> Flannel, apt says it is installed, but it's not on path. You sure you call it with update-manager-core ?
[07:18] <Flannel> Jon--: Oh, right.   :P
[07:18] <bluefrog> paulus68, depends if you want to use a paasword/passphrase
[07:18] <mi3> are gtk 3 themes backward compatible with gtk 2 ?
[07:19] <paulus68> bluefrog: the purpose of this excercise is to gain access to the server in order to allow the remote pc to store the backup to with rsnapshot
[07:20] <bluefrog> paulus68, well it doesn't tell me if you want to use a password or not
[07:20] <hydrox24> mi3: I don't believe so
[07:20] <Jon--> Flannel, Will this prompt before actually doing the dist upgrade?
[07:20] <Flannel> Jon--: It should ask you a variety of thigns, yes.
[07:20] <mi3> ok, thanks hydrox24.
[07:20] <Jon--> Flannel, Failed to read mirror file... This a serious issue?
[07:20] <Flannel> Jon--: Official upgrade notes say you need the -d flag (to either update-manager or do-release-upgrade) but... you really shouldn't at this point in the game (at least, not if -d still means what it used to mean/manpage says it means)
[07:21] <paulus68> bluefrog: I prefer with password want to make sure that I don't have to enter my password each time rsnapshot changes a directory for example
[07:21] <Jon--> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/kJRjyVyL
[07:21] <bluefrog> paulus68, you say the opposite in the same sentence. assume it's without so don't enter anything when asked for a passphrase/password
[07:22] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[07:23] <Jon--> Flannel, Also getting a shit-ton of Err on PPAs... Is this because of third party natty PPAs?
[07:23] <Jon--> Screw it, doing the upgrade anyway. If my laptop bricks you'll be hearing from me soon ;).
[07:24] <Flannel> Jon--: PPAs don't upgrade well, so they should all be disabled (automatically), failed to read mirror is just a warning, and probably related.
[07:25] <Jon--> Yeah, I noticed it was just a warn, but I wasn't sure what it meant.
[07:25] <Flannel> Jon--: Shouldn't cause any bricks, unless you're using a PPA for some sort of core system functionality (which you shouldn't be doing)
[07:25] <Jon--> One last ?, what's the package to get Gnome classic in one package on 11.10 again? I know it was all nicely rolled into one package
[07:25] <Flannel> !notunity | Jon--
[07:26] <Jon--> I have backports and getdeb, but neither should have core sys functionality packages :P
[07:26] <Flannel> I don't know unity, so that factoid is all I know, someone else can help if you have questions though, I'm sure.
[07:26] <Cache_Money> What happens when I delete a partition?
[07:26] <Jon--> Seems like all you have to do is install gnome-panel and it'll give you the fallback mode.
[07:26] <Jon--> Thnx.
[07:26] <Flannel> Jon--: That's what that factoid seems to say, yes :)
[07:27] <Fyodorovna> !details | Cache_Money
[07:27] <Peytonien> If someone could help me with this problem it would be great. I installed Ubuntu 11.10 from a CD on Windows 7(I had to use nomodeset) When I boot up using Ubuntu(again having to use nomodeset) I get a console that stops at "checking battery" I've left it like that overnight with no change. If anyone could help I would really appreciate it.
[07:28] <Jon--> Flannel, In return for your niceness, I'll do some support in here for a bit, then sleepy times :D
[07:28] <Cache_Money> I'm having trouble reinstalling GRUB.  I'm wondering if I can delete what's on a partition and just reinstall Ubuntu on it again
[07:28] <irish_> hi
[07:29] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   NOT the way to do it - why delete?  just reinstall, select the partition and format it.
[07:29] <Jon--> Cache_Money, Did you try to do a grub-install /dev/sda ?
[07:29] <CFHowlett_> irish_   greetings
[07:29] <Cache_Money> Jon--   Yes, and I couldn't get it to work.
[07:29] <monser> how to have latest libraries on lucid?
[07:30] <monser> I want libsqlite>3.0
[07:30] <Jordan_U> Cache_Money: What problem are you having specifically when trying to re-install grub? What guide are you following?
[07:30] <monser> there are only libsqlite3.0 in lucid repo
[07:30] <Jon--> Cache_Money, Then you should reinstall from the media (CD/DVD/USB) and select the existing partition and format it as necessary
[07:30] <paulus68> bluefrog: getting the error no identities found?
[07:31] <Jon--> Cache_Money, Though you may not need to be this extreme, please note that you will lose all data and configuration on the drive. It may be better to troubleshoot through it then to reinstall.
[07:31] <Peytonien> Can anyone help me with a problem I've been having?
[07:31] <Jon--> monser, You will need to find a third party PPA containing it.
[07:31] <Jon--> !ask | Peytonien
[07:31] <monser> what is ppa?
[07:31] <Cache_Money> Jordan_U: I'm following  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[07:32] <monser> !PPA
[07:32] <Peytonien> If someone could help me with this problem it would be great. I installed Ubuntu 11.10 from a CD on Windows 7(I had to use nomodeset) When I boot up using Ubuntu(again having to use nomodeset) I get a console that stops at "checking battery" I've left it like that overnight with no change. If anyone could help I would really appreciate it.
[07:32] <Jon--> ubottu, ppa | monser
[07:32] <infam0us> I was told to use xrandr to  see if that would solve my resolution issue but since i'm new to ubuntu/linux i don't know how to even bring up xrandr (miss the simplicity of certain aspects such as this of windows, but i'll soon learn to use linux)
[07:32] <Peytonien> !help
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Cache_Money: Well that's the problem. Unfortunately that guide is completely wrong. I'm somewhat amazed that such a basic mistake was made in such a prominant guide.
[07:33] <monser> If I uninstall them add libsqlite and libsqlite-dev from packages, would that work?
[07:33] <Cache_Money> Jon- -  I don't have any data to lose because I just installed Ubuntu.  I'm just having trouble loading the OS when rebooting.  It jumps straight into Windows
[07:33] <Cache_Money> Jordan_U  What do you suggest I do?
[07:33] <monser> Is a dev-library used for compiling?
[07:34] <monser> what are the differencs between library and library-dev?
[07:34] <Jon--> monser, You shouldn't need to uninstall anything you currently have. Find a ppa for lucid containing the version of sqlite you want, add it, then do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. The more recent v. should be installed. See ubottu's note about the dangerous of PPA's... (they're relatively safe)
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Cache_Money: Follow this guide instead: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[07:34] <bluefrog> paulus68, pastebin all the commands you issued and their results, please. ll as well the permissions of your remote user .ssh/ files
[07:35] <Cache_Money> Jordan_U  Thanks the resource.  I'll give it a try
[07:35] <CFHowlett_> Cache_Money   My apologies for sending bad advice.  Of COURSE you've got grub2!  *facepalm*
[07:35] <bluefrog> paulus68, .ssh/authorized_keys should be rw for the user only
[07:35] <Jordan_U> Cache_Money: You're welcome.
[07:36] <Cache_Money> CFHowlett_  No worries
[07:36] <Jon--> paulus68, You can set the appropriate permissions on authorized_keys using chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server.
[07:37] <fnsoxt> 有中国人吗
[07:37] <Jordan_U> !jp | fnsoxt
[07:37] <CFHowlett_> !cn|fnsoxt
[07:38] <Jon--> Jordan_U, That be Chinese :P
[07:38]  * CFHowlett_ bet it's chinese
[07:38] <fnsoxt> ubottu: thanks
[07:39] <fnsoxt> wow,it is a bot
[07:39] <paulus68> bluefrog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890323/
[07:39] <Jon--> fnsoxt, We had it type something by doing !command in chat. It's useful. #ubuntu-cn can help you in Chinese.
[07:40] <monser> !PPA
[07:40] <fnsoxt> thanks, i see
[07:41] <fnsoxt> !cn
[07:41] <fnsoxt> !cp
[07:42] <bluefrog> paulus68, an interesting thing is to have a user on your server...
[07:42] <bluefrog> paulus68, so either you change fileserver or you create this user
[07:43] <paulus68> bluefrog: fileserver is a user on the server
[07:43] <bluefrog> no
[07:44] <bluefrog> hang on
[07:44] <paulus68> bluefrog: yes it is, but I can use another user aswel
[07:46] <bluefrog> no wasn't this problem sry
[07:46] <paulus68> bluefrog: no problem
[07:46] <bluefrog> make sure you have .ssh/id*
[07:47] <bluefrog> as if the ssh import didn' tfind the rsa stuff
[07:47] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[07:48] <bluefrog> paulus68, get rid of this -p
[07:48] <Pikkachu> how to delete packages form the PPA?
[07:49] <paulus68> bluefrog: do I note down the full directory like /home/rsnapshot/.ssh/id_rsa? or do I do this differently also not sure where to put the portnr -p flag since I have to use a different port to access my machine ?
[07:49] <bluefrog> paulus68, dunno, but right now the -p makes it fail
[07:50] <chris_> hi. i have a wireless card in a laptop. installed the windows driver and the "Windows Wireless Drivers" app shows the driver and says the hardware is attached. /etc/modules.conf shows an alias for wlan0 to ndiswrapper, but iwconfig shows no wlan0. any ideas on how to get this working?
[07:50] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok I will try to google it
[07:50] <bluefrog> paulus68, you can scp the file anyway
[07:50] <CFHowlett_> Chris is this a broadcom card?
[07:51] <chris_> CFHowlett: it's an old belkin airgo
[07:51] <paulus68> bluefrog: where do I need to copy it to as in which directory on the server?
[07:51]  * CFHowlett_ backs away with hands up
[07:51] <CFHowlett_> Chris_ good luck.
[07:52] <chris_> CFHowlett_, heh
[07:52] <bluefrog> paulus68, /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys.  and this file must be set as rw for owner only
[07:53] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[07:57] <AnonArgSurf> hello
[07:57] <AnonArgSurf> some body_
[07:59] <bluefrog> paulus68, ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub “-p 2222 user@host”
[07:59] <bluefrog> paulus68, use double quote for host info
[08:01] <paulus68> bluefrog: ssh: Could not resolve hostname \342\200\234-p8001: Name or service not known
[08:03] <bluefrog> paulus68, single quote then
[08:03] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[08:05] <paulus68> bluefrog: done
[08:08] <paulus68> bluefrog: how do you make the connection using the keys?
[08:10] <Jimu> so I went to change my Ubuntu 11.10 logon sound to the losing entry Blog-Sound-2.ogg, and found apparently there's an ID for a sound file? and how do i set that relation?
[08:10] <bluefrog> paulus68, ssh user@server shouldn't ask you a password anymore
[08:11] <paulus68> bluefrog: Agent admitted failure to sign using the key
[08:12] <paulus68> bluefrog: and then request the password again
[08:12] <bluefrog> paulus68, dunno then. check your file permissions. this is stright forward so if you have problems you may have a non-standard setup
[08:13] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok Ill check
[08:14] <Jimu> please help, how does the Ubuntu login sound happen? There's an event?
[08:14] <bluefrog> paulus68, try unset SSH_AUTH_SOCK on your client
[08:15] <gear4> Who knows how to host a flash site in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[08:17] <paulus68> bluefrog: where can i find it?
[08:17] <bluefrog> paulus68, what? it's an env variable. the command clears it
[08:17] <Jimu> seriously, you run canberra-gtk-play with an --id="login-sound" or whatever, but id is not a filename, it's an event ID or something, and where do you set the event ID to the sound file you want to play?
[08:19] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok where client is the server right?
[08:20] <bluefrog> paulus68, no a client is a client, a server is a server
[08:20] <bluefrog> red is not blue :)
[08:20] <paulus68> bluefrog: I'll rephrase the client is the pc that wants to have access to the server right?
[08:20] <bluefrog> correct
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> what service are they connecting to?
[08:21] <Braden`> hydrox24:  Typing:  fdisk -l  outputted:  cannot open /proc/partitions
[08:21] <paulus68> bluefrog: Enter passphrase for key '/home/rsnapshot/.ssh/id_rsa':
[08:22] <gear4> Who knows how to host a flash site in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[08:22] <bluefrog> paulus68, that's because you created the key with a pass, no?
[08:22] <paulus68> bluefrog: yes
[08:22] <bluefrog> so?
[08:23] <bluefrog> paulus68, right now it is not asking for the user's password on the server but for the passphrase of the key
[08:23] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok what do I need to do to skip this step
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> gear4: it'll just be a web server but with code to load the flash content (files)
[08:23] <bluefrog> paulus68, have a passphrase less key
[08:24] <paulus68> bluefrog: ok
[08:24] <paulus68> brb
[08:24] <gear4> ActionParsnip, What code ? Where would it be ?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> gear4: whatever html code is used, it won't be any different to a server under windows, its just html
[08:29] <plouffe> gear4, you'd have to install the Apache webserver
[08:29] <gear4> Installed
[08:30] <aleksey> register vfvfytujh.q<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:31] <ActionParsnip> !register | aleksey
 (at help.ubuntu.com)
[08:33] <plouffe> gear4, look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ find DocumentRoot in these files, it should contain the path to where you put the files
[08:33] <gear4> kk
[08:42] <gear4> Thanks :)
[08:52] <gasbakid> hi everyone
[08:52] <bluefrog> paulus68, have a passphrase less key
[08:53] <gasbakid> how to increase the disk space of my "/" partition from my "/home" partition...is there any good solution for that ??
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: have you tried to clear space from / first?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: uninstalling old unused kernels gains a lot of space
[08:55] <gasbakid> greattttt tnx ActionParsnip..havent thnik of that
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: uname -a    will list installed kernels.
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: dpkg -l | grep linux-image   will show installed kernels, do not remove the package without version numbers and don't unintsall the running kernel
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: you can remove the others and get ~120Mb per kernel
[08:57] <gasbakid> yess dude thanks again man great job
[08:59] <Meteorskies> Hello, I'd need some help please. I've installed Ubuntu and seven in dualboot today, but there's something I don't understand: one of my hdd (in SATA set to IDE in the BIOS) no longer appears in the BIOS (hence not in seven) but still appears in ubuntu and is accessible there
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> gasbakid: also install bleachbit and run it as root and user, have as many apps closed as possible and it can clear more space but avoid options saying they will take a long time, also watch settings on apps or it will remove what you want to keep
[09:00] <eyueseyo> hi
[09:01] <gasbakid> ok ActionParsnip bleachbit..
[09:03] <[[thufir]]> I've done apt   full-upgrade, but does that update all packages?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: is full-upgrade an option of apt-get?
[09:04] <Jordan_U> Meteorskies: There isn't anything that Ubuntu can do to prevent Windows from accessing a drive, and just because a drive is not accessible in your BIOS does *not* neccessarily mean that it won't be accessible in Windows. It's likely that the same problem is preventing both from accessing the drive though. What that problem could be however I don't know. You might try asking in ##windows.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: if you run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     it will upgrade everything to the latest on your available repos
[09:04] <triscuit> How do I launch a text document with bash?
[09:05] <[[thufir]]> hmm
[09:05] <[[thufir]]> thanks.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> triscuit: is it a script?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> triscuit: or just a text file to edit?
[09:05] <triscuit> No , I haven't gotten that far, just playing around
[09:06] <triscuit> just text file to edit
[09:06] <Meteorskies> Jordan_U: my problem is that I'd like to access this drive both on linux and windows, but windows doesn't see it while ubuntu does see it
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> triscuit: can you clarify 'launch' please
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> ok
[09:06] <triscuit> launch in the gui
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Meteorskies: I understand that.
[09:06] <triscuit> actually nvmd I can ediy with vi
[09:06] <triscuit> I forgot
[09:06] <Meteorskies> Jordan_U: ok, thanks
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> triscuit: you can use:  gedit filename    if you have a desktop, or:  nano filename    if you want to edit in cli
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Meteorskies: You're welcome.
[09:06] <WilsonBradley> Trying to figure out how to turn off Firewall in Ubuntu , to see if that is the problem..
[09:06] <triscuit> ok thanks, I'l try that to
[09:07] <shalivan> kenet
[09:11] <drounse> how do install a .img file to a usb
[09:12] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, is there anyway to setup an "ubuntu one" client in debian 6 (squeeze)?
[09:13] <drounse> paranoidphreak maybe use the ubuntu repos? but it might break your system
[09:13] <szal> since the target system is Debian, #debian on irc.oftc.net would be the right place to ask ;)
[09:13] <zykotick9> paranoidphreak: you might want to try asking in the #ubuntuone channel
[09:13] <szal> or what zykotick9 said
[09:14] <paranoidphreak> thanks.....i'll do that
[09:16] <dsenator> hi all
[09:17] <dsenator> trying to root my android in ubuntu, I followed intstructions here https://github.com/GalaxyICS/android/wiki/How-to-install-ADB-(Android-Debug-Bridge)-on-Linux but  on step 9 using #HTC the step 10 gave did not give me permission still
 (at github.com)
[09:18] <Jordan_U> drounse: What is the .img file of specifically? You can probably use dd, but if you make a mistake with dd you could *destroy all the contents of your hard drive*, so if you do decide to go that route be VERY careful.
[09:18] <dsenator> all I wanted to do was bacome root and remove some installed app like the one that sends sms without asking yu
[09:18] <dsenator> CAIVS.APK
[09:19] <drounse> Jordan_U i tried dd but i downloaded imagewriter and it worked, i needed to install pfsense to a usb
[09:19] <dsenator> ??
[09:19] <DropsOfSerenity> for those who use HUD: I play HoN and while playing there is a shortcut to use an item, it's a fullscreen game, and the shortcut is alt-q when i press alt, hud pops up, forcing the fullscreen application into windowed, then when hud closes, my application is left in windowed mode, how do I disable HUD in fullscreen applications? asked in ubuntu+1 but wanted to check here also
[09:19] <dsenator> by the way whats the way to type peoples name quicker here?
[09:20] <dsenator> i forgot
[09:20] <drounse> earlier i took the nic out of my desktop and switched it, now i cant connect with my ethernet cable
[09:20] <szal> !tab | drounse
[09:20] <Jordan_U> drounse: OK, it sounds like your problem is solved then. In the future if you solve your problem after asking a question it's generally good to say that you've done so (maybe with a brief description of what you did) so that people know that you no longer need help.
[09:20] <szal> wrong nick, but you get the idea ;)
[09:20] <drounse> Jordan_U i know i literally finished as you responded
[09:21] <Jordan_U> drounse: Fair enough :)
[09:21] <drounse> Jordan_U now i get to start up pfsense :)
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> drounse: if you run:  sudo dhclient eth0    does it get DHCP ok?
[09:22] <drounse> ActionParsnip, RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> drounse: if you delete the: Auto eth0 from network manager   then delete the DHCP client from your router, it may help
[09:23] <dsenator> how do yu type a persons name quickly here
[09:23] <DJones> !tab | dsenator
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> dsenator: type a few letters of the nick and hit TAB
[09:24] <drounse> dsenator start typing a name and press tab
[09:24] <dsenator> cool thank
[09:24] <dsenator> do any of yu have any idead why i cld not get permission to root
[09:24] <dsenator> android
[09:25] <dsenator> followed here https://github.com/GalaxyICS/android/wiki/How-to-install-ADB-(Android-Debug-Bridge)-on-Linux
 (at github.com)
[09:25] <dsenator> but on 9 and 10 after that there was no permission
[09:25] <dsenator> ahmadalza, i am on same page
[09:25] <ahmadalza> dsenator: Error: "i" is not a valid command.
[09:25] <drounse> ActionParsnip, like shut off dhcp from router?
[09:26] <Wulf> Hello
[09:26] <dsenator> dsenator@dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~/android-sdk-linux/tools$ chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[09:26] <dsenator> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': Operation not permitted
[09:26] <dsenator> ahmadalza, i got dsenator@dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~/android-sdk-linux/tools$ chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[09:26] <dsenator> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': Operation not permitted
[09:26] <ahmadalza> dsenator: Error: "i" is not a valid command.
[09:27] <dsenator> ahmadalza,  what do you  mean by what yu just typed?
[09:27] <ahmadalza> dsenator: Error: "what" is not a valid command.
[09:27] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i'm missing my tray icons (pidgin, skype...) on the top bar.... I'm afraid i removed something... How can i get them back ? (Gnome 3 Classic)
[09:27] <Wulf> I have Ubuntu running in dual-screen (?) mode. After hitting some key combination on the right screen some magnification was active. The area around this mouse cursor is magnified a lot and the screen is basically unusable. Which key combo / feature was it?
[09:28] <dsenator> anyone to help?
[09:28] <WilsonBradley> Trying to use Deluge . I have UpnP enabled on Router and Deluge, but still getting a Red! when clicking-check Port.. Is this normal behavior in Deluge?
[09:32] <dsenator> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules': Operation not permitted
[09:32] <dsenator> i need help
[09:32] <dsenator> denied permission
[09:32] <bluefrog> dsenator use sudo
[09:32] <jasonmsp> hey all.  How do I force gnome-terminal geomentry to position based on absolute geometry?  Unity I think is forcing a gap on the left side next to my launcher that I don't want.
[09:33] <dsenator> i assume no one here know the solution to this, cos no one is talking\
[09:34] <bluefrog> dsenator use sudo
[09:34] <bluefrog> second time
[09:34] <[[thufir]]> 404 error when installing flash:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1526176
[09:34] <ahmadalza> Title: Bash Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[09:34] <dsenator> thanks bluefrog let me try that
[09:37] <mr_ubuntu_12> Need quick search tool for file names and directory names in ubuntu | like Everything.exe in Windows ...
[09:37] <dsenator> bluefrog, not responding
[09:37] <Krissed> mr_ubuntu_12 uhmm nautilus can do that i belive.
[09:37] <Krissed> or locate if youre in terminal
[09:38] <dsenator> bluefrog, it says sudo: cannot get working directory
[09:38] <Wulf> mr_ubuntu_12: find
[09:38] <Krissed> ah yeah find..
[09:38] <bluefrog> dsenator, write the full command
[09:39] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i'm missing my tray icons (pidgin, skype...) on the top bar.... I'm afraid i removed something... How can i get them back ? (Gnome 3 Classic)
[09:40] <dsenator> ???
[09:41] <ibiwor> What's the difference between gnome-shell and ubuntu-desktop?  Oh, you want differences, sorry :-)
[09:42] <Wulf> ibiwor: just try both and see for yourself.
[09:43] <ServerSage> Isn't one gnome and the other unity?
[09:43] <ibiwor> !info gnome-shell
[09:43] <[[thufir]]> exactly
[09:43] <[[thufir]]> if you like a "normal" desktop, try gnome-shell. or xfce, et. al.
[09:44] <jasonmsp> dsenator: use 'sudo chmod' like bluefrog said
[09:44] <ibiwor> [[thufir]]: Well, then a shell and desktop environment is different? Shell is confusing me with terminal too
[09:44] <[[thufir]]> it's just a desktop.
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> ServerSage: unity is a shell for gnome
[09:46] <mr_ubuntu_12> thanks Krissed but nautilus doesn't make any index like "Everything.exe"
[09:46] <[[thufir]]> ibiwor: I sent you a screenshot
[09:47] <dsenator> jasonmsp, doing that i get dsenator@dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:~/android-sdk-linux/tools$ sudo chmod a+r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
[09:47] <dsenator> sudo: cannot get working directory
[09:47] <dsenator> jasonmsp, pls notice the very first line of my terminal as pasted it end in tools$
[09:48] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i'm missing my tray icons (pidgin, skype...) on the top bar.... I'm afraid i removed something... How can i get them back ? (Gnome 3 Classic)
[09:48] <ibiwor> [[thufir]]: Sorry, could you imagebin that?
[09:48] <JelloPop> [[thufir]]: I was not aware of such a difference that is why I use gnome3 + mate in linux mint.. I would have figured the gnome shell would be easier to use
[09:48] <jasonmsp> dsenator: do all the folders in the path exist?
[09:48] <bluefrog> dsenator, ~/android-sdk-linux/tools  still exists in your computer?
[09:49] <Krissed> mr_ubuntu_12 in terminal you can do "locate *.exe" to find all files ending in .exe
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: what if you try a different icon theme?
[09:49] <Krissed> krambiorix uhmm there is some command to restore gnome to default. goole that
[09:50] <Krissed> ActionParsnip icon theme ?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: yes
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> mr_ubuntu_12: are you using Precise?
[09:50] <dsenator> bluefrog, and jasonmsp pls tell me how to check fro that?
[09:50] <geirha> Krissed: locate '*.exe'  the pattern should be quoted, else it fails if you have .exe files in your current dir.
[09:50] <jasonmsp> dsenator: use ls
[09:51] <Krissed> geriha i meant the " " as what he should write in terminal to find all .exe files. not that he should actually write the " "
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Krissed: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/    when the servers come back up. Much easier to just install and use xfce
[09:51] <geirha> Krissed: I understood that the "" wasn't shell quotes, but the pattern should nontheless be quoted.
[09:52] <Krissed> Actionparsnip ive costumized my ubuntu to look like classic already. im good
[09:52] <Krissed> geirha ah ok
[09:52] <dsenator> jasonmsp, ls doesnt give me anything in return
[09:53] <valdur55> Hello. I have Bus 002 Device 122: ID 0603:1031 Novatek Microelectronics Corp. and cursor doesn't work
[09:53] <dsenator> although lsusb gives the list of usd inuse
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> valdur55: is it a touchpad, or a mouse?
[09:53] <dsenator> ls wont give anyting
[09:53] <jasonmsp> dsenator: type this - cd  /etc/udev/rules.d
[09:53] <valdur55> ActionParsnip, mouse
[09:53] <jasonmsp> without the -
[09:54] <dsenator> jasonmsp, nothing happens
[09:54] <dsenator> did yu notice i am int he tools$?
[09:54] <dsenator> do i  need to drop that first
[09:54] <jasonmsp> dsenator: i suspect something did.  what is your current working directory
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> valdur55: is it an HP wireless mouse?
[09:55] <jasonmsp> dsenator: pwd
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> valdur55: you aren't alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1667460.html
 (at ubuntuforums.org)
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> valdur55: if you pull the device out, wiat a few seconds, then push it back in. Is it ok?
[09:56] <dsenator> jasonmsp, this is what i have in my terminal right now dsenator@dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC:/etc/udev/rules.d$
[09:56] <jasonmsp> dsenator:
[09:56] <jasonmsp> dsenator: correct
[09:56] <jasonmsp> now type ls
[09:56] <dsenator> ok
[09:57] <dsenator> 10-vboxdrv.rules  51-android.rules~       70-persistent-net.rules
[09:57] <dsenator> 51-android.rules  70-persistent-cd.rules  README
[09:57] <dsenator> jasonmsp,
[09:57] <dsenator> i have 2 51-android-rules
[09:57] <dsenator> jasonmsp,
[09:57] <bluefrog> no only one
[09:57] <bluefrog> other is backup
[09:58] <jasonmsp> your intial command was missing the ~ at the end of the android file.  Hence, it doesn't believe the file is there which is why you are getting the error.
[09:58] <dsenator> ok
[09:58] <dsenator> now whats the solution to that
[09:58] <jasonmsp> suggest you go to the man files or google and start reading up on basic linux commands..
[09:59] <dsenator> i can read up that later but for now what the way out
[09:59] <valdur55>  Still nothing..
[09:59] <valdur55> ActionParsnip, yea :) I know . I am not alone
[09:59] <llutz> dsenator: "cd ; sudo chmod +r /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules"
[10:00] <ibiwor> 11.10*
[10:00] <ibiwor> How can I install XFCE shell but not xubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 11.104 I'm using
[10:01] <dsenator> llutz, tried it now, nothing
[10:01] <llutz> dsenator: "nothing" waht? no error = success
[10:01] <nothingspecial> ibiwor, install xfce4
[10:02] <jasonmsp> dsenator: it probably worked - no news is good news
[10:02] <dsenator> just stares at me
[10:02] <dsenator> no result
[10:02] <dsenator> ok jasonmsp
[10:02] <jasonmsp> dsenator: man ls
[10:02] <dsenator> man ls or just ls
[10:02] <jasonmsp> man ls
[10:03] <dsenator> jasonmsp, i got a list of stuffs and description
[10:03] <jasonmsp> dsenator: read it
[10:03] <bluefrog> a nice galaxy bricked soon..
[10:04] <jasonmsp> bluefrog: ha!
[10:04] <jasonmsp> I think I may have found a bug in compiz, window placement.
[10:04] <dsenator> jasonmsp, ok read it
[10:04] <jasonmsp> can someone confirm?
[10:04] <ibiwor> nothingspecial: So installing xfce4 package will give me DE and xubuntu-desktp shell?
[10:05] <nothingspecial> ibiwor, it will give you xfce, thunar and a few other things without the music player and other alternatives
[10:06] <rtt> ...........
[10:06] <mr_ubuntu_12> ActionParsnip what is Precise how to use it?
[10:06] <mr_ubuntu_12> is it Precise Pangolin?
[10:06] <jasonmsp> (11.10)  Compiz - Windows Placement - Fixed Window Placement - add a new fixed position without keep in workarea checked and the rule comes up as checked.
[10:06] <locsmif> XFCE is not a DE is it?
[10:06] <ibiwor> nothingspecial: I'm actually confused what's shell and DE in xubuntu-desktop, xfce4
[10:07] <oCean> mr_ubuntu_12: yes, "precise" is the codename for ubuntu 12.04 (currently still beta and offtopic for this channel)
[10:07] <bluefrog> jasonmsp, confirm what? gnome-terminal --geometry 50x2+0+0  puts it where it should be.
[10:07] <dsenator> jasonmsp, ?
[10:07] <dsenator> i read it
[10:08] <jasonmsp> bluefrog: my terminal windows are showing up with a gap that is the same size as the launcher on the left side.
[10:08] <bluefrog> jasonmsp, yeah ok sry
[10:08] <nothingspecial> xfce is not a shell, it is a desktop environment, which is a set of packages that give you a useable operating system with a graphical user interface
[10:08] <nothingspecial> sort of
[10:08] <jasonmsp> Relative window is set at 0, 0 but the absolute has it adjusted to the right for the launcher width.
[10:08] <jasonmsp> trying to stop the gap from being placed.
[10:08] <bluefrog> jasonmsp, the joy of 11.10 I believe. haven't seen that on12.04
[10:09] <jasonmsp> so is the 'keep in workarea' check a bug?
[10:09] <bluefrog> dunno
[10:09] <jasonmsp> whether it is checked or unchecked the rule comes up as checked.
[10:10] <dsenator> jasonmsp, i am stock on this manual page if yu dont tell me what to do
[10:10] <jasonmsp> dsenator: read it and learn about linux commands
[10:11] <mr_ubuntu_12> hi OCean , is there any tool available for fast search in ubuntu 11.10?
[10:11] <ibiwor> nothingspecial: Thanks.. apt-cache search lists xfce4 - Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment and xubuntu-desktop - Xubuntu desktop system. So what exactly is a shell? :)
[10:11] <oCean> mr_ubuntu_12: have you tried the  locate  command in terminal?
[10:12] <bluefrog> locate needs an updatedb first
[10:13] <locsmif> Hmm, FloodBot1 defective.
[10:13] <nothingspecial> ibiwor, a sort of layer on top of a desktop environment that lets you interact with it
[10:13] <ibiwor> nothingspecial: Actually this part for shell - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_%28computing%29#Graphical_.28GUI.29_shells - confused me with DE
 (at en.wikipedia.org)
[10:14] <dsenator> jasonmsp, thanks for the help and suggestion, how do i get out of my present situation before adding more complexity, this type of thing is what yu study over a while not on one sitting
[10:15] <jasonmsp> dsenator: if you use the ls command you can see whether or not your permissons are set the way you want.
[10:15] <dsenator> commands wont help me right now, i can memorise all the commands but what i need is a direction on what to do if you know it
[10:15] <dsenator> Jason, yeah but i cant even get out of this manual page you sent me to
[10:16] <dsenator> jasonmsp,
[10:16] <plouffe> dsenator, type q
[10:16] <dsenator> i cant even get out of this manual page yu banished me to
[10:16] <dsenator> i did
[10:16] <dsenator> i already typed q
[10:16] <dsenator> it doesnt take me back to the original page
[10:17] <dsenator> ok jasonmsp  so i finally got out and ls seemed to work
[10:17] <dsenator> what do i look out for to knowi amon track
[10:17] <locsmif> mr_ubuntu_12: in Kubuntu, you have: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soprano_%28KDE%29
[10:17] <blankon8> Title: Soprano (KDE) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[10:18] <mr_ubuntu_12> thanks locsmif i am checking it
[10:18] <dsenator> jasonmsp, yeah there is an android-sdk-linus there
[10:18] <Whitebird> Hello
[10:18] <locsmif> mr_ubuntu_12: and: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strigi  ... might be available in Gnome Ubuntu too
[10:18] <Whitebird> How can I edit the hosts file so I can loopback whitebird.edu to <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:18] <blankon8> Title: Strigi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
[10:19] <locsmif> Whitebird: edit it after <IP_ADDRESS> 's localhost entry
[10:19] <locsmif> On the same line
[10:19] <Whitebird> just whitebird.edu?
[10:19] <jasonmsp> dsenator: can i PM you?
[10:19] <locsmif> yeah
[10:19] <Whitebird> thanks
[10:19] <dsenator> not everyone here is on the same level, so a careful explanation of issues might help
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> locsmif: just add a new entry
[10:19] <locsmif> ActionParsnip: you want Whitebird
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> locsmif: no need to reboot after either :)
[10:20] <dsenator> jasonmsp, yes pls pm me
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> oh yeah, d'oh
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Whitebird: ^ see above
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Whitebird: you can make anything point to any IP you want. I have a LOT pointing to localhost :)
[10:20] <Whitebird> haha thanks
[10:21] <Whitebird> my problem was that i thought something.something wasn't possible
[10:21] <Whitebird> i thought only plain words
[10:21] <Whitebird> hostnames*
[10:21] <Whitebird> thanks guys
[10:21] <locsmif> np
[10:21] <ouyes> I get a rewritable dvd , do I need to erase it before I burn something new
[10:21] <locsmif> Make sure microsoft.com is in there too.
[10:21] <Foo273> Hello
[10:22] <locsmif> ouyes: no.
[10:22] <Whitebird> hehe
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Whitebird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/890433/   stops unnecessary stuff on web pages :)
[10:22] <Foo273> I've followed this guide on how to install eclipse http://flurdy.com/docs/eclipse/install.html
[10:22] <Whitebird> mind = blown
[10:22] <Foo273> however I don't get a gnome menu item for eclipse
[10:22] <Whitebird> got adblock though ^^
[10:22] <Whitebird> good for android maybe
[10:24] <ahhughes_> how do I bring up the HUD? I've seen video's and blog, but none mention how I invoke it
[10:24] <charmking> Hi everyone, very urgent problem.  I used a wubi installed 11.10 for few months, but had space limitations, so, i used wubi-      but in the process, i dont know what happened but lost everything. In windows in C:/ubuntu/disks there is a fuse file with the same size as previous partition, can i recover my data?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Whitebird: just how I roll
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> charmking: use your backups
[10:25] <charmking> ActionParsnip: Where will i find them?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> charmking: wherever you made them, its not an automatic process
[10:27] <jasonmsp> ahhughes_: alt-tab??
[10:27] <charmking> ActionParsnip: btw i used ActionParsnip wubi-add-virtual-disk for increasing partition size,  but now in the ubuntu root, i find home.backup, but its empty, it has a lost+found folder, which i am not able to open
[10:27] <ahhughes_> HUD is in 11.10 yes?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> charmking: you may be able to mount the image in LiveCD.
[10:27] <basic123> @ping
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: no, its precise only
[10:28] <ahhughes_> well that might explain it
[10:29] <ahhughes_> consider how hooked I was on Launchy on windows xp, this is the next evolution :) I look forward to it.
[10:29] <cyberdo> ubuntu server 11.04... Where can I find out which packages gets installed by default?
[10:29] <cyberdo> I have a minimal installation that I need to get into a similar shape as a default install
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: its due out soon :)
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> cyberdo: if you wanted a desktop OS, why did you install the server OS?
[10:30] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i'm missing my tray icons (pidgin, skype...) on the top bar.... I'm afraid i removed something... How can i get them back ? (Gnome 3 Classic)
[10:31] <ahhughes_> next question is, I have my laptop (ubuntu) and desktop (mythbuntu), how can I mount a directory of the desktop on my laptop?
[10:31] <cyberdo> ActionParsnip: do not want the desktop. I have a debootstrap installed server that I would like to get into the same shape (same installed packages) as a default server install
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: use samba or sshfs etc
[10:31] <bluefrog> what choice do I have to make sure that test.sh is run prior to launch a program for which the user clicked on the launcher (besides changing all launchers to Exec=test.sh && program)?
[10:32] <ahhughes_> so samba is not just a windows thing then ActionParsnip ?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> cyberdo: install the ubuntu-desktop [ackage and it wil all come down for you
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: Ubuntu can access samba, it also has smbclient which allows nautilus to easily access samba shares
[10:33] <danopia> i installed gnome-panel to get the GNOME2 fallback, but when i use it, i can't figure out how to customize the panels. rightlicking on a black area of the panels doesn't bring up a menu
[10:33] <cyberdo> ActionParsnip: great... but is there a similar meta-apckage for servers?
[10:33] <ahhughes_> ActionParsnip, I guess I could use scp out of the box too, but thats a little less "ui friendly"  :)
[10:33] <Krambiorix> ok how can i have the identical gnome (2) from ubuntu 10.04 back?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> cyberdo: in what way?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> ahhughes_: why, nautilus can connect to SFTP just fine
[10:33] <Krambiorix> All others are just a (bad) try to become cool like apple's interface
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: there are guides how to tweak it, just because an OS uses global menu doesn't mean its like a Mac
[10:35] <ahhughes_> ActionParsnip, I picked up about 3 things I need to learn in your 3 pieces of advice :)
[10:35] <cyberdo> ActionParsnip: afaik, ubuntu-desktop is a package that only depends on a lot of other packages needed to create a basic desktop install. As I said, I want a server install
[10:35] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, well, i don't know where they get  the idea, but how can they make "windows" users try to start with ubuntu (gnome) with this??
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-server
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:36] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, i guess they wanted to create something "cool" but not user-friendly
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: try xfce or lxde :)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> or kde
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> cyberdo: I guess it depends what sort of server you want...
[10:37] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, i don't like them... I want Gnome 2 back!!
[10:38] <oCean> Krambiorix: xfce desktop has very much the look and feel of gnome2
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: gnome2 is dead, you can tweak the current OS to look like Gnome2
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: as oCean says, xfce is a lot like Gnome2 and will run your gnome apps without issue
[10:40] <Krambiorix> hmmm
[10:40] <Krambiorix> it's a pitty what gnome is doing
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: i think its good, new and innovative
[10:41] <[[thufir]]> can't seem to install flash:  http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1526253
[10:41] <blankon8> Title: Bash Mozilla Pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.mozilla.org)
[10:41] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, what are you using it for?
[10:41] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, are you a developer ?
[10:41] <Jordan_U> blankon8: Please disable that (and any other scripts which will talk in this channel).
[10:41] <blankon8> Jordan_U: Error: "Please" is not a valid command.
[10:42] <man-doc> /join #backtrack-fr
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: no, just a long time user of Linux
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: ty what gnome is doing
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/installing-using-classic-gnome-desktop.html
[10:42] <Rabbit67890> its the desktop environment
[10:42] <Rabbit67890> same with kde, fluxbox, twm, xfce, etc etc
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Rabbit67890: fluxbox isn't technically a DE ;)
[10:43] <Rabbit67890> hm
[10:43] <cyberdo> ActionParsnip: found another server, and just ran dpkg -l | cut -c3-36| tail -n+6
[10:43] <Rabbit67890> i was possibly thinking some other box
[10:44] <Krambiorix> Rabbit67890, ActionParsnip: the left menu = ok, but what about moving the cursor to the upper left...???  Mouse is way to slow
[10:45] <Rabbit67890> ask the people in #gnome
[10:45] <chroot> hi, i am using kvm in ubuntu, and i want to my virtual machine connect to network with my ip address, how can i do that?
[10:45] <Rabbit67890> the devs will know why they moved it
[10:45] <LukeNukem> Hello
[10:45] <LukeNukem> i have a few concerns regarding my web server
[10:45] <LukeNukem> and chmod
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: if you don't like unity. Don't use it. Only one of the four officially supported variants of ubuntu use Unity...
[10:46] <Whitebird> When I change the port at ports.conf in apache2, I get a "Not Foun" page, and the when the port is 80, the page loads fine
[10:46] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, well, if you have 5 firefox windows open and so on, it's not manageable
[10:46] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, is there a way to go back to gnome 2 ?
[10:47] <jubei> howdy. Anybody know why even if I did "apt-get remove sendmail" sendmail is still there? I do "service start sendmail" and it still starts ok…
[10:47] <Rabbit67890> Whitebird, whats your index folder?
[10:47] <Whitebird> www normally
[10:47] <Whitebird> didn't change anything but hosts and port
[10:47] <Rabbit67890> where exactly?
[10:47] <oCean> Krambiorix: No. Gnome2 is dead
[10:47] <Rabbit67890> yeah
[10:48] <Rabbit67890> replaced with the OCD inducing gnome3 (my opinion)
[10:48] <Whitebird> How do you mean?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: thats why tabs exist
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: there are guides how to tweak the UI, one is on omgubuntu but their servers are being a bit weird recently...
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: tried gnome-shell?
[10:49] <Krambiorix> oCean, ActionParsnip  ok, then back to win XP / Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: why do I need to know that?
[10:50] <Krambiorix> FYI
[10:50] <Jordan_U> jubei: sendmail-bin
[10:50] <jubei> Jordan_U: found it thank you
[10:50] <Jordan_U> jubei: You're welcome.
[10:50] <Krambiorix> ActionParsnip, anywhere screenshots of gnome-shell?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Krambiorix: the internet..
[10:51] <Krambiorix> k thx
[10:51] <Krambiorix> bye
[10:53] <chroot> hi, i want to assign an ip to my vitual machine, how can i achinve that?
[10:53] <pnunn> Anyone here have any idea why I can't connect to a remote (but still on my network) kvm host with virsh (or anything else), when it works fine from the host itself?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> pnunn: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> from it?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> chroot: you can set static IPs in network manager etc
[10:55] <chroot> ActionParsnip, yeah,  but it is in kvm?
[10:55] <ikonia> pnunn: libvirtd not listening on the correct interface, firewalled on that interface etc
[10:56] <chroot> I mean i installed ubuntu in kvm, and i want to access this virtual machine through the internet.
[10:56] <icarus> Hello, i am having a problem
[10:56] <ahhughes_> I cant work out how to get middle click on this laptops touchpad, anyone think this is possible (asus n53)
[10:56] <icarus> I just reinstalled xubuntu and i need to recover my files
[10:57] <madoo> hellp
[10:57] <madoo> i need heelp
[10:57] <icarus> i used a seperate partition for my /home and when i reinstalled it seems to have wiped my files even though i made sure not to select format
[10:57] <madoo> can i find hellp here
[10:57] <Whitebird> So far no dice for changing the port
[10:57] <pnunn> Tho network is functioning fine on the machine to the outside world.. could be listening on the wrong interface though, where is that set?
[10:58] <pnunn> chroot: you need to set up a bridge interface
[10:58] <Whitebird> madoo, what's the problem?
[10:58] <pnunn> chroot: the vm's will then get network settings just like real machines.
[10:58] <chroot> pnunn,  wow, how to set that bridge interface.
[10:59] <chroot> just configure the host's interface file
[10:59] <LukeNukem> how i can set two owners?
[10:59] <icarus> help recovering my files
[10:59] <chroot> and then configure the virtual machine's network as usaul and then you can access it through the network.
[10:59] <chroot> ?
[11:00] <madoo> i wanna change my ubuntu to kubuntu in tirmnal can eny one till me haw
[11:00] <ikonia> madoo: install the package kubuntu-desktop
[11:00] <madoo> haw i can do
[11:00] <ikonia> madoo: open the package manager, search for kubuntu-desktop, click install
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> icarus: use your backups
[11:01] <icarus> i dont have backups
[11:01] <pnunn> chroot: install bridge-utils then look on google, plenty of examples there.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> icarus: why not?
[11:01] <icarus> because i didnt think the partition would be affected
[11:01] <icarus> it never has been before
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> icarus: you may find luck with foremost, if the data has been overwritten then it's gone
[11:01] <chroot> ok, pnunn , I will do that.
[11:01] <chroot> thanks
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> icarus: get a backup system
[11:01] <icarus> you are no help
[11:02] <pnunn> chroot: that bit is easy.. just wish I could talk to it.. lol.
[11:02] <icarus> my whole life was just wiped please stop antagonizing me
[11:02] <ikonia> icarus: it's actually very solid advice
[11:02] <icarus> not for my current problem
[11:02] <ikonia> icarus: if data is important to you, it's important to back it up
[11:02] <ikonia> icarus: you said you used a seperate /home partition, is that partition mounted ?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> icarus: I suggested foremost, how is that "no help"
[11:02] <madoo> haw i can typ in terminal
[11:02] <icarus> yes
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> icarus: try reading...
[11:03] <icarus> well tell me what foremost is
[11:03] <madoo> to change to kubuntu
[11:03] <ikonia> icarus: is the data in /home brand new or part of the legacy
[11:03] <icarus> i thought you were trying to be a smartass
[11:03] <ikonia> madoo: use the package manager
[11:03] <ikonia> madoo: open the package manager, search for kubuntu-desktop click "install"
[11:03] <icarus> what is a legacy
[11:03] <ikonia> icarus: old dasta
[11:03] <ikonia> data
[11:03] <icarus> ok
[11:03] <icarus> story tiiime
[11:03] <ikonia> don't want a story
[11:04] <ikonia> just want you to answer my question
[11:04] <LjL> !recover | icarus, some in this might help
[11:04] <icarus> i have been writing scripts and wut not and saving them to my hole
[11:04] <icarus> which was in an extended partition
[11:04] <icarus> one day i said oh noes my xubuntu is currupted
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: is the data in the /home brand new or not
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: don't want a story
[11:04] <icarus> luckily / and /home are different extended partitions
[11:04] <icarus> one install later all my files are gone
[11:04] <icarus> that all i know
[11:04] <icarus> im a noob s
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: please stop
[11:04] <icarus> sue me a
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: answer the question
[11:04] <FloodBot1> icarus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:04] <icarus> i dont know what you mean by brand new?
[11:04] <ikonia> icarus: I'm sorry to say your data is gone
[11:05] <ikonia> icarus: if you mounted the old /home partition and your data is not there, you will have selected "format"
[11:05] <ikonia> icarus: your data is gone
[11:05] <icarus> i
[11:05] <icarus> made
[11:05] <icarus> sure
[11:05] <icarus> NOT
[11:05] <FloodBot1> icarus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:05] <icarus> to select format
[11:05] <icarus> >:3
[11:05] <ikonia> icarus: you where mistaken
[11:05] <icarus> ok
[11:05] <icarus> has anyone else had this problem before?
[11:06] <ikonia> icarus: no, it will be user error
[11:06] <icarus> seriously do i experiance unique problems?
[11:06] <valdur55> http://paste.ubuntu.com/890461/ -i have this output
[11:06] <JadedJacob> ubuntu 11.10