[05:43] <pieter2627> morning all
[05:53] <Kilos> morning pieter2627 inetpro and others
[05:53] <Kilos> we got 7mm rain last night and heavy storms
[05:53] <Kilos> weeds should be happy for a while
[05:58] <pieter2627> weeds??
[05:59] <pieter2627> Kilos: what are you growing :P
[05:59] <pieter2627> ... a green stash
[06:02] <Kilos> haha i wish
[06:02] <Kilos> kahkibos and other weeds
[06:02] <Kilos> blackjacks etc
[06:03] <Kilos> the weed you talking about actually makes a very healthy tea
[06:03] <Kilos> helps my head
[06:04] <pieter2627> haha, ok
[06:27] <mazal> Morning everyone , what does the red line and cross through the https part in this pic mean ? Site is unsafe ?
[06:27] <mazal> http://picpaste.com/bar-zdoJ1XBV.png
[07:22] <inetpro> good mornings everybody
[07:36] <TinuvaMac> mazal: click on it, and check the info. there will be a reason
[08:19] <Squirm> Morning all
[08:20] <Squirm> Has anyone here ever had freeradius to authenticate with Google Apps? So the user would try and authenticate with freeradius and freeradius would check their credentials with GApps
[08:30] <TinuvaMac> does google apps have a ldap like interface you can authenticate against?
[09:15] <mazal> TinuvaMac: If I understand this correctly : http://picpaste.com/bar3-fCDACElb.png , then the problem is defnitely at the sebsite side and not safe
[09:15] <mazal> website*
[18:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[00:07] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: yeah, should probably be fixed - it breaks the Maintainer link for many packages. I've thought about doing something about it too (without ever actually doing anything)
[00:08] <ari-tczew> thanks tumbleweed for support
[00:11] <ScottK> ari-tczew: You don't need support.  You just need to go get it fixed.  As in #launchpad.
[00:11] <ScottK> As/Ask
[00:13] <ari-tczew> ScottK: Asked.
[00:27] <ari-tczew> ScottK: could you take a look on a patch related to python? patch requires python 2.6. should do I change it to 2.7?
[00:27] <ari-tczew> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/ntfs-config/natty/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/python24-remove.patch
[00:27]  * ScottK looks
[00:28] <ScottK> ari-tczew: What problem is this solving?
[00:28] <ari-tczew> ScottK: revision says: Don't explicitely depend on a versioned python interpreter.
[00:28] <ari-tczew> no bug reported for this one
[00:28] <ari-tczew> and added by doko
[00:31] <ari-tczew> ScottK: during review PTS/BTS I found an information about change: debian/rules: add export PYTHON=/usr/bin/python
[00:31] <ari-tczew> is it a workaround for above patch?
[00:32] <ScottK> The change you linked me to is from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/ntfs-config/natty/revision/9
[00:33] <ScottK> The don't explicitly depend on ... change doko did was rev 11.
[00:34] <ScottK> So I'm a little confused what your question is.
[00:35] <ScottK> Guessing, I think you'd want 2.6 and 2.7 in there, but that's a guess.  If you don't understand it, either test and experiment until you do or leave it for someone else.
[00:36] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I'm pretty sure that we can drop this patch. Debian has implemented some changes for it.
[00:36] <ari-tczew> ScottK: Right, patch was added in revision 7 without explanation by Riddell, then twice updated.
[00:36] <ScottK> ari-tczew: I'd be sure.  People get grumpy if ntfs-config is broken.
[00:37] <ari-tczew> ScottK: so I'm asking you for be sure: lookin' on Debian bug 589015 they have fixed it
[00:38] <ari-tczew> they have added "export PYTHON=/usr/bin/python" in debian/rules
[00:38] <ScottK> ari-tczew: I'm busy with other stuff at the moment.  You need to consider that Debian has 2.5 and 2.6 and we will have 2.6 and 2.7 when you look at it.
[00:38] <ScottK> That might do it.
[00:38] <ScottK> I'm just not in a position to investigate
[00:39] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I'll build debian package on natty. I'll test it. if it works, can we sync?
[00:39] <ScottK> ari-tczew: I don't know and don't have enough time to find out for sure, but that sounds reasonable.
[00:40] <ari-tczew> ok
[00:45] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: looks good for syncing to me (wonders why I'm still awake...)
[00:45] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: what is your timezone in UTC?
[00:46] <tumbleweed> UTC+2
[00:47] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: the same as mine! when do you wake up?
[00:47] <tumbleweed> depends when I go to sleep :P
[00:49] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: ah! got it now
[00:49] <ari-tczew> how can I use requestsync for universe as I'm MOTU?
[00:50] <micahg> ari-tczew: should be no different than anyone else, if you use --lp, it won't subscribed -sponsors and should just marked confirmed
[00:51] <ari-tczew> micahg: just not working as you wrote :/
[00:51] <ari-tczew> it subscribing sponsors
[00:51] <micahg> with --lp?
[00:51] <ScottK> ari-tczew: With the email version it will ask you if you have upload rights for Universe.  Say yes.
[00:52] <ScottK> micahg: pyxpcom is FTBFS and looks like it might benefit from someone who understand Mozilla stuff.  Would you please have a look at it.
[00:52] <ari-tczew> micahg: alias reqsync='requestsync --lp -s -d unstable'
[00:52] <micahg> ScottK: I think we're blacklisting it, but I"ll look into it, thanks
[00:52] <ScottK> micahg: Not successfully.
[00:53] <ScottK> ;-)
[00:53] <micahg> oops, meant we'll be blacklisting it :)
[00:53] <micahg> ari-tczew: -s forces sponsorship (i.e. subscribe sponsors)
[00:55]  * ari-tczew is testing without -s...
[00:55] <micahg> ari-tczew: also, -d unstable is default for non-LTS
[00:55] <ari-tczew> micahg: natty is non-LTS right?
[00:55] <maco> ari-tczew: right
[00:56] <ari-tczew> so also can I remove it from alias?
[00:57] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Now that you have that figured out, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58061073/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.gdcm_2.0.16-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz could use some linking help if you're looking for something that needs doing.
[00:59] <ari-tczew> ScottK: curiosity question: do you need this FTBFS fixed for something?
[00:59] <ScottK> ari-tczew: No.  Just noticed it was of a relatively trackable class of FTBFS (linking failures) and thought you might be up for fixing it.
[01:00] <ari-tczew> ScottK: That's right, but I'm guessing about move this operation to FeatureFreeze stage.
[01:00] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Linker failures are unlikely to go away on their own.
[01:00] <ari-tczew> before FeatureFreeze get changes from Debian as more as possible
[01:01] <ScottK> It's certainly up to you to decide what your work is.
[01:01]  * micahg notes there's 3.5 months until FF
[01:01] <ari-tczew> ScottK: tomorrow I can look
[01:01] <ScottK> Great.
[01:01] <ari-tczew> micahg: a lot or a little?
[01:02] <ari-tczew> from your POV
[01:03] <ari-tczew> ScottK, tumbleweed: ntfs-config from Debian works fine. I'm going to sync it.
[01:03] <ari-tczew> do I need to give an explanation of sync if I'm MOTU?
[01:03] <ari-tczew> (requestsync use)
[01:04] <micahg> ari-tczew: a lot, and yes, you need to give an explanation for the archive-admins
[01:04]  * micahg would think at least
[01:05] <ari-tczew> I just saw fresh ScottK's sync bug and he gave explanation.
[01:06] <ScottK> ari-tczew: That was an easy one because Debian did the exact same change we did.  For this one, it's a different fix, so needs a bit more explaination.
[01:07] <ari-tczew> when I decided to remove package in universe, is enough to subscribe ubuntu-archive?
[01:07] <micahg> ari-tczew: no, there should be an explanation for the AAs to include in the removal log
[01:08] <ari-tczew> micahg: of course. I just mean whether any ACKs  are necessary.
[01:08] <micahg> ari-tczew: no, if you have upload rights you can request removal
[01:09] <ari-tczew> hmm, why people use ntfs-config with sudo? I don't understand bug 663318
[01:10] <micahg> ari-tczew: some people think you have to run a lot of things with sudo that you don't have to
[01:11] <ari-tczew> micahg: how do you would triage this bug?
[01:12] <micahg> ari-tczew: well, if it's never meant to be run with sudo, it should warn on that and exit (would be wishlist then), if it's normally supposed to be run as the user, but can be run as sudo, there are 2 issues here, 1.  should warn, 2. shouldn't fail when run with sudo
[01:13]  * micahg doesn't know anything about ntfs-config though
[01:13] <micahg> those are general triaging suggestions
[01:14] <micahg> ari-tczew: my guess is there might be a duplicate as hal's been deprecated
[01:15] <ari-tczew> micahg: hmm. I'm thinking about upload ntfs-config and please users to test package without sudo.
[01:15] <micahg> ari-tczew: well, if you're not sure about the usage, I would suggest further research or getting in touch with the Debian maintainer
[01:16] <micahg> ari-tczew: you could also try YokoZar who maintains the wine stack in Ubuntu
[01:17] <ari-tczew> micahg: why wine? it's ntfs-config
[01:17] <micahg> ari-tczew: possible indirect knowledge
[01:25] <ScottK> Also HAL is removed from Gnome, but KDE still uses it.
[01:26] <ari-tczew> ScottK: so I dunno how triage these bugs :/
[01:27] <ari-tczew> ntfs-config works very well on my ubuntu
[01:27] <ScottK> OK.  I'd discuss it with people in #ubuntu-bugs
[01:34] <micahg> ari-tczew: debian 573348
[01:35] <ari-tczew> micahg: I saw it. and I said, works fine for me,
[01:35] <ari-tczew> micahg: I'd get it applied in Debian first.
[01:36] <ari-tczew> micahg: I'd prepare a NMU, but if I'm not affected...
[01:36] <micahg> ari-tczew: sure, but you can at least link the bugs and mark our bug triaged
[01:37] <micahg> ari-tczew: there's already a possible patch in that bug
[01:37] <ari-tczew> micahg: [02:36] <ari-tczew> micahg: I'd prepare a NMU, but if I'm not affected...
[01:38] <micahg> ari-tczew: well, the answer is to probably move away from HAL
[01:39] <micahg> ari-tczew: about you not being affected, I'm not sure, you could always upload a fix to a PPA for someone to test
[01:39] <ari-tczew> micahg: sounds reasonable
[01:39] <micahg> ari-tczew: if you're running GNOME, you might be HAL free as ScottK pointed out
[01:40] <ari-tczew> micahg: so, users with KDE are affected?
[01:40] <micahg> ari-tczew: no, they probably wouldn't be, since they'd have hal installed
[01:40] <ScottK> Could be other destkop environments too.
[01:40] <micahg> ari-tczew: do you have hal installed
[01:40] <micahg> Xfce still has HAL as well until we get to 4.8
[01:41] <micahg> ari-tczew: if you have the hal package installed, you wouldn'
[01:41] <micahg> t get this error
[01:42] <ari-tczew> micahg: I have installed
[01:44] <ari-tczew> does anybody know what means comment on MoM "USA" ?
[01:47] <ari-tczew> could someone add a comment on https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe-manual.html ? instead add comment, page redirects me to universe.html
[03:23] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I'm trying to repackage a python app, it builds fine, however when I try to upload it to a ppa, it says mixed uploads not allowed, so asked the dev says, remove all the .py (that is the source) I did that, and recompiled, and stills says it is mixed???
[03:23] <shane4ubuntu> any ideas, thoughts or pointers would be appreciated.
[03:31] <ScottK> shane4ubuntu: You should probably seek help in #ubuntu-packaging.
[03:31] <shane4ubuntu> ScottK, ok, thanks!
[11:43] <bdrung> micahg: you can code perl?
[11:52] <xteejx> I have fixed bug 671222 - it's in main, how do I get the fix looked at?
[11:55] <xteejx> Do I subscribe ubuntu-sponsors ??
[12:00] <geser> xteejx: yes
[12:00] <xteejx> geser: ok thanks :)
[12:02] <geser> xteejx: I assume mvo will look at it during the next week
[12:02] <xteejx> cool
[14:27] <ari-tczew> ScottK: I can't fix FTBFS on gdcm, which you pointed me to do it yesterday. Sorry.
[14:28]  * ari-tczew is off to switch into XP,
[15:28] <psusi> can anyone tell me why bzr is apparently not using stacked branches?  I branched from lp:ubuntu/parted, made one tiny change, and tried to push to lp:~psusi/ubuntu/natty/parted/my-fix and it seems to be uploading the entire repo history
[15:34] <psusi> ohh... ok, it apparently just wanted a --stacked... I don't remember having to do that before to get a stacked push.. hrm...
[15:35] <ebroder> psusi: I was taking a look at your lvm2 merge last night. You know that all of the undocumented patches come from Debian, not us, right?
[15:36] <ebroder> I think it might be better to do a proper merge from Debian before trying to incorporate a new upstream. In particular, the Debian maintainer dropped one or two of the patches since the last time we merged
[15:36] <psusi> he did?  hrm..
[15:37] <ebroder> In any case, I don't think it's a good idea to drop patches from the Debian packaging just because they don't appear to do anything to you
[15:38] <psusi> yea, I also need to talk to keybuck about open-readonly.patch too but I've not seen him on
[15:38] <psusi> it seems I didn't quite merge it correctly because I get warnings about read only vs read write opens when running it
[15:38] <psusi> but it still seems to work fine
[15:38] <ebroder> I believe that patch is still relevant. It's needed because we add OPTIONS+="match" to the udev file
[15:39] <ebroder> Err, +="watch"
[15:39] <psusi> well, it's also because I couldn't get them to apply and without any documentation, could not figure out what they were supposed to and fix it
[15:39] <psusi> so that was the best I could do
[15:39] <psusi> which patch is this?
[15:40] <ebroder> I'm not sure it's encoded in a quilt patch, but it's our only change to...debian/tree/dmsetup/lib/udev/rules.d/60-dont-remember-what-it-ends-with.rules :)
[15:40] <psusi> ohh... I shouldn't have touched that then
[15:40] <psusi> all I did was manually fix up patches or comment them out of the series file
[15:41] <ebroder> with something as sensitive as lvm2, that...doesn't really seem like a good plan
[15:41] <ebroder> Anyway, the merge from Debian appears to be more straightforward, although bzr generated a bunch of bogus conflicts when I tried it
[15:43] <psusi> I'm really excited about this new lvm.. I tried upgrading to natty again last night then an lvconvert and a reboot and I'm back in maverick...
[15:50] <kklimonda_> ScottK: I can fix gdcm later (as in "in few hours"), the fix should be pretty straightforward
[15:56] <psusi> isn't there supposed to be a bzr branch somewhere that is an auto import from debian?
[15:56] <ebroder> lp:debian/<source package>
[16:00] <psusi> doesn't seem to exist...
[16:01] <ebroder> uh, i branched it last night
[16:01] <psusi> nevermind... typoed
[16:02] <psusi> ahh and there is one for sid
[16:04] <psusi> ohh, and they finally went to 2.02.72... only 2 revs behind
[16:06]  * psusi beats the debian maintainer for not putting a single line of documentation in his patches
[16:07] <ebroder> he's not actually at 2.02.72 - he just cherry-picked the change
[16:08] <psusi> wait... so his idea of "import upstream version 2.02.72" is to cherry pick a single change, not update to the new upstream release?
[16:08] <ebroder> look at the version numbers in the changelog
[16:09] <ebroder> "New upstream version." is the typical phrasing for the latter
[16:09]  * psusi facepalms
[16:35] <SpamapS> hrm, I got a weird error when submitting a package for PPA build..
[16:35] <SpamapS> dpkg-deb: building package `mongodb' in `../mongodb_1.2.2-1ubuntu1.1~ppa0_amd64.deb'.
[16:35] <SpamapS> tar: ./usr/bin/mongo: file changed as we read it
[16:36] <SpamapS> ./usr/bin/mongo is a symlink
[16:36] <SpamapS> when building in my local schroot I don't get this problem
[16:36] <SpamapS> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58762750/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.mongodb_1:1.2.2-1ubuntu1.1~ppa0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[16:37] <SpamapS> anybody ever see this issue? It doesn't quite make sense to me.. I'm wondering if it is parallel builds or something else weird.
[16:43] <micahg> SpamapS: tar was updated in lucid...
[16:50] <SpamapS> micahg: like, recently?
[16:50] <micahg> SpamapS: no, 5 weeks ago
[17:52] <micahg> Do we do SRUs for outdated descriptions?
[18:02] <ScottK> kklimonda_: Excellent.
[18:03] <ScottK> micahg: No.
[18:07] <micahg> ScottK: k, thanks
[20:36] <ha2fb> Alright guys I have a question regarding Download Accelerator Plus installation through WINE. If someone could help me it would be greatly appreciated!
[20:37] <ScottK> ha2fb: Support is in #ubuntu.
[20:37] <ha2fb> sorry Scott, thanks.
[20:38] <ScottK> No problem.


[05:32] <magespawn> good morning
[05:32] <Kilos> hi magespawn and others
[06:58] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd
[06:59] <andrewlsd> HI Kilos
[07:04] <inetpro> goeie more
[07:06] <andrewlsd> gooi 'n moray
[07:06] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[07:08] <chesedo> morning magespawn Kilos andrewlsd inetpro and others
[07:09] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone
[07:12] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper
[07:23] <theblazehen> hey Kilos, andrewlsd, inetpro, chesedo, paddatrapper
[07:23] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[07:24] <chesedo> hi paddatrapper
[07:24] <paddatrapper> Hey chesedo, theblazehen
[07:24] <chesedo> and theblazehen
[07:25] <theblazehen> More applications need a "go back to previously selected tab" key
[07:25] <theblazehen> Looking for the other tab you want in a list of 50, only knowing general location..
[07:30] <chesedo> theblazehen: sounds like a browser?
[07:30] <theblazehen> chesedo: Yes. And irc client
[07:31] <paddatrapper> I do miss that in KDE...
[07:31] <paddatrapper> theblazehen: which irc client?
[07:31] <theblazehen> There was a key for that?! Tell me more!
[07:31] <theblazehen> quassel
[07:31] <theblazehen> Is this a general qt thing?
[07:31] <andrewlsd> Hi theblazehen
[07:32] <paddatrapper> I3wm - meta+tab, KDE doesn't have anything similar that I've found to switch between desktops
[07:32] <paddatrapper> No idea about quassel unfortunately
[07:33] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: Ah, yes, but thats workspaces not tabs in applications
[07:33]  * theblazehen is in 31 irc channels + bunch of PMs..
[07:34] <paddatrapper> Yeah....
[07:34]  * theblazehen also has the workspace switcher. I <3 it
[07:34] <paddatrapper> Weechat allows you to switch back to the previous buffer - alt+current buffer number
[07:35]  * paddatrapper checks out the workspace switcher
[07:36] <theblazehen> That would require me knowing the current buffer number.. But I'm planning on moving to weechat soon anyway
[07:37] <paddatrapper> It is shown in the status bar/can be configured there
[07:37] <theblazehen> I just want to Ctrl (?) + Esc though
[07:38] <paddatrapper> I'm sure that can be be configured
[07:39] <theblazehen> It's open source. Of course it can be configured. :)
[07:40] <paddatrapper> Haha. Less dramatically than that!
[07:40] <Kilos> in kde its called pager paddatrapper
[07:40] <paddatrapper> Thanks Kilos
[07:40] <Kilos> right click bottom panel and add widgets
[07:40] <Kilos> then type in pager
[07:41] <Kilos> and drg it to where you want it in panel
[07:41] <paddatrapper> Ah found it, turns out I've been using it already
[07:41] <Kilos> lol
[07:42] <Kilos> you can aslo add many workspaces
[07:42] <Kilos> in settings
[07:42]  * theblazehen has 18 workspaces / display
[07:43] <theblazehen> Counted 23 terminals open when I was done working last night
[07:43] <Kilos> lol
[07:43] <Kilos> i go take sheep out
[07:44] <paddatrapper> Eish. theblazehen I have 5 workspaces per activity (5 of those) of which I'm actively using about 6 or 7 at most. Terminals wise - 7 or 8 in that
[07:45] <theblazehen> Cool. I wish my wm had activities
[07:45] <theblazehen> If I ned to I just start multiple X servers though
[07:45] <paddatrapper> Well there we go! What WM are you using?
[07:46] <theblazehen> AwesomeWM. Non of the others do multi monitor "right" (IMO, whenever I complain online about it people downvote me, so maybe I'm wrong)
[07:47] <theblazehen> Thing is, pulse audio wont play from other ttys (Although I can fix that), firefox won't like it, so I need to use multiple synced profiles
[07:47] <mazal> Morning all
[07:47] <theblazehen> And less of a problem with GTX 980, but GPU won't like it because of memory issues
[07:47] <theblazehen> hey mazal
[07:48] <theblazehen> Currently using 2054/4096 mb video ram. Haven't even really started working properly yet..
[07:48] <mazal> How utterly dissapointing , when I saw GTX I thought there is gaming discussion but now I see the word "work" :P
[07:49] <paddatrapper> Not bad... Think I'd go mad with so much happening at once
[07:51] <theblazehen> mazal: Haha, I haven't gamed in months :( But I did get the 970 for gaming originally. Did I mention how poorly intel HD4600 handles 4k?
[07:52] <theblazehen> paddatrapper: That's my secret ;)
[07:53] <mazal> theblazehen, I still have my measly 760 :P
[07:53] <theblazehen> mazal: How much video ram?
[07:53] <mazal> makes me so sad about pc stuffs. Barely 18months ago it was a top nitch R5000 card
[07:53] <mazal> 4gig DDR5 theblazehen
[07:54] <theblazehen> Yeah. I've once used >3GB VRAM without games open...
[07:54] <mazal> Is why I rather went back to console gaming , little did I know , that ended up in disaster as well thanx to bad rand value
[07:55] <mazal> I miss the versatility of Steam though , steam rocks as a platform
[07:56] <paddatrapper> I have the GT610... It was fairly decent when I bought it, now it struggles on pretty much anything
[07:56]  * mazal wonders why he didn't get an ai from Kilos yet
[07:57] <mazal> paddatrapper, yeah , when I got that 760 it was awesome with everything on max , now it's below minimum required for most stuff
[07:57] <paddatrapper> mazal: He's gone to see the sheep
[07:57] <mazal> Ah ok , then I must hide before he comes back :)
[07:58]  * mazal not allowed to talk about games where Kilos can see :)
[07:58] <paddatrapper> Lol :)
[07:59] <Kilos> i see
[07:59]  * mazal runs away
[07:59] <Kilos> hahaha
[08:00] <Kilos> morning superfly
[08:06] <Kilos> my audio just disappeared and its not muted
[08:06] <Kilos> wbb
[08:18] <Kilos> working
[08:18] <Kilos> no idea what it was
[08:19] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[08:19]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:20] <Kilos> paddatrapper writing or studying
[08:20] <Kilos> ?
[08:20] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Neither at the moment, watching videos about building CNC machines
[08:21] <Kilos> ok
[08:21] <paddatrapper> Wrote last night, next one is next Wednesday
[08:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:23] <Kilos> Maaz danke
[08:23] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:36] <pavlushka> Hello chesedo !
[08:37] <Kilos> hi there bangalorie man
[08:37] <pavlushka> Actually I missed you guys!
[08:37] <Kilos> fix your connection
[08:37] <pavlushka> Kilos: Its "Bangalee"
[08:37] <Kilos> i like saying bangalorie
[08:37] <pavlushka> We talk Bengali/Bangla
[08:38] <pavlushka> we are Bangalee
[08:38] <Kilos> you talk english as well so bangalorie works for me
[08:38] <pavlushka> Kilos: lol, You heard about Kolkata/Calcutta?
[08:39] <Kilos> if you spoke in symbols then i would be lost
[08:39] <Kilos> yes ive heard of calcutta
[08:39] <Kilos> too far from me to worry about
[08:39] <pavlushka> Kolkata is a district of West Bengal which is a province of India
[08:40] <pavlushka> They talk Bengali too
[08:40] <Kilos> and english
[08:40] <Kilos> you all come from bangaloryville
[08:40] <pavlushka> So you'll see both Bangladeshi And Indian Bangalees!
[08:41] <pavlushka> lol
[08:41] <Kilos> hehe
[08:42] <pavlushka> So the Ubuntu-Bengali translation group is comprised of Indian and Bengali Ubuntuan, and had two admins from each side.
[08:43] <pavlushka> Our side admin converted to Mozillian now, lol
[08:44] <pavlushka> *one admin from each side
[08:52] <Kilos> wbb
[09:01] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:02] <Kilos> drussell are you ok?
[09:02] <Kilos> or just the pc logging in on its own
[09:40] <drussell> Kilos: all good thx :oD
[09:40] <Kilos> yay
[09:40] <Kilos> where are you now davey?
[11:32] <magespawn> brb
[12:07] <magespawn> back
[12:07] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[12:14] <pavlushka> wb myself, :p, magespawn !
[15:00] <pavlushka> Night guys!
[15:05] <Kilos> hi Langjan
[15:05] <Kilos> paddatrapper you use dropbox?
[15:06] <paddatrapper> Kilos: occasionally yez
[15:06] <paddatrapper> s/yez/yes
[15:07] <Kilos> i have the ibid.db there
[15:07] <Kilos> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ivgvnp2bjau74u/ibid.db?dl=0
[15:07] <Kilos> i have forgotten how to use dropbox even
[15:09] <Kilos> i tried opening it with sqlite but it complained
[15:09] <Kilos> maybe i have to send you an invite or something
[15:30] <Langjan> Hi kil, superfly and paddatrapper the printer is up and running and I have learnt some about printers and networks, many thanks.
[15:31] <Langjan> Dropbox? Easy and works well
[15:31] <theblazehen> Okay, I'm about to do something horrible....
[15:31] <theblazehen> I just wrote `mkdir /srv/salt/workarounds`. Yup....
[15:33] <Kilos> thats good news Langjan
[15:33] <Kilos> so you becoming the main IT guy there
[15:34] <Langjan> old IT guy
[15:35] <Kilos> age doesnt matter as long as you can fix things
[15:35] <Langjan> or break things...lmga
[15:35] <Kilos> haha
[15:39] <Langjan> Sorry guys gotta go, will chat later
[15:39] <Kilos> cheers Langjan
[15:39] <Kilos> go well
[15:39] <Langjan> bye Kilos you too thks
[15:41] <magespawn> home time later all
[15:41] <Kilos> toods
[16:30] <paddatrapper> Kilos: that link should work. I'll take a look when I get home tonight
[16:31] <Kilos> ok ty
[17:35] <Kilos> Maaz it doesnt work
[17:35] <Maaz> Kilos: What?
[17:35] <Kilos> Maaz it doesn't work
[17:35] <Maaz> Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.
[17:39] <theblazehen> lol who updated maaz for that Kilos?
[17:39] <Kilos> weird
[17:40] <Kilos> he sounds just like inetpro
[17:40] <Kilos> same as
[17:40] <Kilos> Maaz assumption
[17:40] <Maaz> An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts, but when made by intelligent people is often proven to be true.
[17:43] <theblazehen> Did someone `alias Maaz=inetpro`?
[17:43] <Kilos> lol
[17:44] <Kilos> the pro does many things we only notice later whe n he isnt arround so he can act innocent
[18:16] <inetpro> eh
[18:16] <inetpro> good evening
[18:16] <Kilos> evening inetpro
[18:16]  * Kilos hides
[18:17] <inetpro> you feel guilty... again?
[18:17] <Kilos> oops
[18:25] <Kilos> i just made an assumtion, and not being intelligent its most likely wrong
[18:42] <inetpro> Kilos: what can I help you with today?
[18:42] <Kilos> nothing ty sir
[19:04] <Kilos> maybe over the weekend ill try get mattermost working here when konversations opens and not need to command it
[19:05] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[01:58] <Moose> Hello everyone, recently I have gotten very interested in QML through co-coding an app for a client.  I was looking to develop my skills in QML by helping out with Ubuntu because you guys seem to focus heavily on it. I found the Ubuntu Touch/Phone quite interesting. So my question is: How can I join a project and help you guys out?
[04:34] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: hello man ... I have credential issues
[05:02] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: ping
[05:23] <surbiks> hi , i am android developer and want to work with ubuntu touch.i want to create custom of ubuntu touch image , how can i do it?
[05:24] <surbiks> for sample : i want to block install app , and user can use pre-installed app just , how do this?
[06:45] <Mirv> mardy: thanks for the bug #1447175 fix! although there's a test filing, but there's not much sense to not land the #include fix anyway
[06:47] <Mirv> s/filing/failing/
[07:33] <jibel> .quit
[08:43] <Avagetto_> Good day, anybody can help with porting? how i can create ubuntu touch  system img (vivid and android image inside) on PC, without device and adb...
[09:21] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Tell a Story Day! :-D
[10:06] <Se7> morning
[10:07] <Se7> still no update :( shall i reset the phone and try upgrading?
[10:08] <popey> Se7: update to what?
[10:09] <Se7> popey, i ve got update for youtube telegramm and my pphoto but they don t downloading
[10:10] <Se7> it s about 3-4 days like this
[10:10] <popey> Se7: out of disk space?
[10:10] <Se7> try to reboot many time still nothing
[10:10] <Se7> no error popey
[10:10] <Se7> just stuk in downloading
[10:11] <Se7> stuck*
[10:11] <popey> adb shell df -h /home
[10:11] <popey> what does it say?
[10:11] <Se7> wait
[10:11] <Se7> i have to  connect the phone to pc for doing that right?
[10:11] <popey> yes, or do it in the terminal app
[10:11] <popey> easier from a pc
[10:11] <Se7> ok sec
[10:14] <Se7> adb command not found from terminal app
[10:14] <popey> you don't need "adb shell" on device
[10:14] <popey> just run "df -h /home"
[10:15] <popey> and report the Use% column
[10:15] <Se7> ok sorry
[10:16] <Se7> Use% Mounted on /dev/mmcblk0p7 4.4 1.2g 3.1g 28% /home
[10:18] <Se7> looks like that I got space popey
[10:19] <popey> ok.
[10:19] <popey> you could try removing your Ubuntu One account in system settings, and then re-add it.
[10:19] <jgdxx> popey, Se7 wait
[10:20] <jgdxx> Se7, could you take a look at your ubuntu system settings log?
[10:20] <Se7> if you tell me how :)
[10:21] <jgdxx> Se7, $ cat .cache/upstart/application-legacy-ubuntu-system-settings-.log
[10:21] <popey> easier if you plug into a pc
[10:21] <jgdxx> Se7, given you are in home
[10:21] <Se7> ok sec
[10:21] <jgdxx> (/home/phablet/.cache/upstart/…)
[10:21] <Se7> enable developer right?
[10:21] <jgdxx> Se7, yes
[10:22] <jgdx> Se7, and the phone needs to be unlocked while you access it via usb
[10:23] <Se7> ok enabled developer and connected to pc
[10:23] <Se7> now i have to do?
[10:23] <jgdx> $ adb shell
[10:23] <jgdx> on the pc
[10:24] <Se7> and type the command who give me jgdx
[10:24] <jgdx> Se7, cat .cache/upstart/application-legacy-ubuntu-system-settings-.log
[10:24] <Se7> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10909221/
[10:31] <jgdx> Se7, anything in  ~/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager ?
[10:31] <Se7> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager$ ls
[10:31] <Se7> ubuntu-download-manager.INFO  ubuntu-download-manager.WARNING
[10:32] <jgdx> Se7, anything interesting in WARNING?
[10:32] <Se7> do you want see the warning??
[10:32] <Se7> sec
[10:33] <Se7> mm how can i open it??
[10:33] <Se7> which editor it s on he phone
[10:34] <jgdx> Se7, vi
[10:34] <jgdx> or less
[10:34] <Se7> ok i pastebin it
[10:35] <Se7> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10909310/
[10:36] <jgdx> Se7, you can probably just follow popey's suggestion now. Thanks for your time! :)
[10:36] <Se7> no problem ..happy to help :)
[10:39] <Se7> tnx popey and jgdx now work :)
[10:39] <popey> excellent
[10:39] <jgdx> great
[10:57] <matv1> I have a qml app that is running well on the desktop but when I run it on the phone, apparmor starts complaining. I think its bad news but I cant really understand what it is complaining about. I could really do with some help
[10:57] <matv1> here is the output
[10:57] <matv1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10909469/
[10:59] <matv1> what the app starts out doing is asking a server for data via a xmlhttprequest
[10:59] <matv1> I am guessing its related to that
[11:01] <jgdx> matv1, has the app requested to be part of the networking policy group?
[11:02] <jgdx> ref https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement/Manifest
[11:03] <matv1> jgdx I am kinda new to this. I was hoping having the default grants for networking and webview would be sufficient
[11:04] <matv1> i will read up on that and get back if i still need help. thanks
[11:13] <matv1> jgdx btw on that matter of getting peap/mschapv2 enabled. I cant do much in terms of sorting that out but I am willing to test anything you have. Also I work daily in a wifi network where that is the authentication method. and I am close to the network admins if we need to know details of configuration. I have found that can be helpfull sometimes :)
[11:24] <jgdx> matv1, okay, cool! This is the branch for that: https://code.launchpad.net/~joergberroth/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-802-1x-configurations/+merge/257472
[11:32] <matv1> jgdx nice! I will take a look
[11:38] <mpt> tedg, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680911
[11:39] <mpt> (“NM takes one-size-fits-all approach to all wireless errors which leads sometimes to nonsensical behaviour.”)
[11:39] <mpt> pete-woods, https://code.launchpad.net/~joergberroth/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-802-1x-configurations/+merge/257472
[12:44] <robin-hero> Hi! Can I enable somewhere the turn-by-turn (with voice) navigation in the HERE maps on Ubuntu Touch?
[12:45] <crs1> Hi everyone :) Recently i have two problems with my n4: I cant isntall apps and mobile data stopped working. I already did a factory reset but the problems reappeared after some weeks. Do you have any ideas what i can do to solve this?
[12:45] <studio_> hi
[12:46] <studio_> i have a question about mir and xmir. is xmir the root less x11-server for mir?
[12:49] <jgdx> crs1, hey, what image?
[12:51] <crs1> when i installed it on the phone i remember, i used the "devel" branch (that was long time ago). Now the phone says "Ubuntu 15.04 (r2)"
[12:52] <jgdx> crs1, I'm not good with those numbers, but that sounds really old.
[12:53] <jgdx> crs1, what does $ system-image-cli -i  # give you?
[12:54] <jgdx> crs1, please upgrade your phone. I'm on "Ubuntu 15.04 (r183)" and I can think of a bajillion things we've done inbetween those two images.
[12:55] <crs1> ok i was already wondering why there are so few updates
[12:55] <crs1> there are no updates for me, it says something like "system up to date"
[12:56] <jgdx> crs1, maybe you made your image readwrite?
[12:56] <crs1> maybe i did this several month ago, but 3 weeks ago i did a factory reset, doesnt this revert the system to read only?
[12:57] <jgdx> crs1, does /userdata/.writable_image exist on the phone?
[12:58] <jgdx> crs1, you should be able to flash your phone to the most recent image painlessly, and without data loss. See https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[13:00] <crs1> no, this file doesnt exist ( i checked with "sudo ls -a /userdata)
[13:00] <studio_> hmm, this is ubuntu-touch with "mir", isn't it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3PUYoa1c9M and that guy got "skype" on his scope?
[13:00] <crs1> To get back to your question from before, system-image-cli -i:
[13:00] <crs1> current build numer: 2
[13:01] <crs1> last update: 2015-04-13
[13:01] <crs1> version ubuntu: 20150413
[13:01] <crs1> version device: 20150210
[13:01] <crs1> version custom: 20150413
[13:02] <crs1> jgdx, Thank you very much for your very fast and good help. I will try to do the flash procedure you suggested ;)
[13:03] <jgdx> crs1, good luck. Ping me if the mobile data issues persist after upgrading to the latest version.
[13:04] <davmor2> studio_: skype is x86 only so won't run on arm.  that table is intel based so it can work there
[13:05] <studio_> i have never seen skype in the store
[13:06] <davmor2> studio_: it was for demo purposes, there is no skype app! it was standard skype for i386/amd64 installed via xmir the same applies for netflix too.
[13:07] <studio_> how to install the xmir on mir?
[13:08] <davmor2> studio_: you don't, it will land in the image when it is fully ready
[13:08] <studio_> ok
[13:13] <amari> In which languages is Ubuntu Touch translated and which language input does the keyboard support?
[13:16] <popey> amari: lots!
[13:16] <amari> popey: The keyboard is most important. Does it support CJK input?
[13:18] <popey> amari: Elleo can probably explain the details of the keyboard better than I...
[13:18] <popey> amari: http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/vivid gives you an idea of the level of translation
[13:19] <jgdx> mpt, a context can be inactive if cellular data is off
[13:20] <jgdx> mpt, s/context/apn
[13:20] <mpt> ok…
[13:21] <jgdx> mpt, but I'm thinking that will all go away when we change the backend to use "Preferred" instead of "Active"
[13:21] <mpt> jgdx, pun not intended, but I’ve forgotten the context here
[13:22] <studio_> davmor2, what about "miraclecast", will it also land in the image?
[13:22] <jgdx> mpt, let me get back to you
[13:23] <mpt> ok :-)
[13:24] <popey> studio_: we have no plans to
[13:24] <popey> (that I'm aware of)
[13:24] <davmor2> studio_: there is no miraclecast that is a commercial app.  The standard screen share will be incorporated when it is complete and tested well yes
[13:25] <studio_> popey, have seen that some guys are working in it for 15.04: https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast
[13:26] <popey> studio_: you'd have to ask them then
[13:28] <studio_> i thought, that it is known here ...
[13:28] <popey> "it" ?
[13:28] <studio_> miraclecast on ubuntu
[13:29] <Elleo> amari: we have a chinese plugin, there's a japanese one in development (but that hasn't had much attention recently)
[13:29] <amari> Elleo: you mean for the keyboard?
[13:29] <Elleo> amari: iirc the chinese library we use has some support for korean, but it's not used at the moment
[13:29] <Elleo> amari: yeah, for the keyboard
[13:29] <popey> studio_: ok. various people may know about it, but that doesn't mean it's going to land in the phone any time soon, especially some random 3rd party repo on github
[13:30] <amari> So right now there is support for chinese input in ubuntu touch, but not japanese and korean?
[13:31] <studio_> popey, there is also a ppa: http://ppa.launchpad.net/thopiekar/miraclecast/ubuntu/
[13:33] <popey> studio_: it would need to be in the archive, unless it's a standalone app, which could be a click package.
[13:33] <popey> studio_: again, you need to contact them, not us
[13:33] <studio_> ok
[13:36] <studio_> popey, you said, that there will be network browsing implementation in the filemanager, correct?
[13:36] <popey> samba support
[13:36] <studio_> samba only or also nfs-lan?
[13:38] <popey> samba for now
[13:38] <popey> (I am pretty sure I've said this about 4 times now)
[13:39] <studio_> i am sure, you just said network browsing, noting special more
[13:40] <popey> studio_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10911183/ no, multiple times I've said it.
[13:40] <studio_> and?
[13:40] <amari> Elleo: So right now there is support for chinese input in ubuntu touch, but not japanese and korean?
[13:41] <studio_> you didn't said "only samba". sorry for missunderstanding :(
[13:42] <popey> studio_: i did. 20:02 < popey> studio_: we have no plans to add nfs to the file manager, dnla makes no sense in a file manager
[13:45] <studio_> popey, sorry again, maybe i have skiped that sentence :(
[13:53] <Elleo> amari: correc
[13:53] <Elleo> amari: correct*
[13:54] <amari> thank you ;)
[13:56] <mcphail> awe: are you still looking for episodes of the "network lost when wandering away from wifi" bug?
[14:00] <awe> mcphail, not sure "I'm still looking" is an accurate phrase, but if you've hit this, and would like to comment on the bug, I can point you to the right place?
[14:00] <awe> mcphail, I'm actually just about to start a meeting
[14:01] <awe> could you describe your basic scenario?
[14:01] <mcphail> awe: ok np
[14:01] <mcphail> awe: simply no network and empty "sudo route" when out of range of wifi just now. No switch to 3g
[14:02] <awe> which device?
[14:02] <mcphail> krillin on rtm
[14:02] <awe> ok, and to be clear, you were connected to a WiFi AP, then went out of range, correct?
[14:03] <mcphail> awe: correct
[14:04] <mcphail> awe: don't know at which point the network was lost. Haven't checked phone since went out of range 6 hours ago
[14:04] <awe> so we're working on a fix for this... the bug for this scenario is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1435328
[14:06] <mcphail> awe: i'll look through that (lengthy!) bug later and add more info if I have anything new. Anything you would like me to check just now?
[14:08] <Sander^work> How come the start screen with the phone and appstore icon etc. I saw on the downloaded version isnt there anymore on the one I got from bq
[14:09] <awe> no, I think we have a good understanding of the bug and actually have a fix in progress
[14:09] <davmor2> Sander^work: swipe the middle of the screen to the left 2 times
[14:09] <davmor2> Sander^work: the image you downloaded did have all the scopes that the shipped phone has
[14:10] <Sander^work> davmor2, ah!!
[14:10] <Sander^work> Thanks alot:)
[14:10] <davmor2> did not have even
[14:12] <Sander^work> davmor2, awe maybe I good idea to have that excercise in the "training" when you first start the phone aswell:)
[14:12] <Sander^work> a*a
[14:12] <Sander^work> Btw, I really like the look of the phone.
[14:14] <davmor2> Sander^work: it is in the instructions and swiping between pages is kinda common to all mobile operating systems too.  But if the change they want lands you would access the other scopes from a right hand swipe which is in the instructions :)
[14:16] <Sander^work> davmor2, ah, ok. Btw. Do you know if there exist an app like google keep. To keep track of several lists, and maybe share them?
[14:17] <davmor2> Sander^work: Reminders plugs into evernote that can have lists not sure about sharing popey^
[14:18] <Sander^work> davmor2, Like a grocery store list?
[14:18] <Sander^work> Hm, interesting. I'll have to check out evernote.
[14:19] <davmor2> Sander^work: yeah I use reminders for that, just make a note and then you have checkboxes you can add to the note
[14:50] <kenvandine> ogra_, did you see the link sharing context menu landed in vivid?
[14:51] <ogra_> kenvandine, i'm still having an old image on my arale (testing a new graphics driver) and couldnt upgrade yet ... but thats awesome to hear ! (i'll upgrade today)
[14:53] <kenvandine> ogra_, just for you! :-D thanks for the suggestion
[14:53] <ogra_> :D
[15:09] <kenvandine> awe__, apn editor testing silo is 16, building now
[15:16] <awe__> thanks kenvandine, abeato ^^
[15:16] <abeato> awe__, noted
[15:47] <mcphail> Any news yet on whether the next krillin rtm will be based on vivid?
[15:47] <ogra_> there will be a hotfix OTA first
[15:47] <ogra_> the one afterwards will be vivid
[15:48] <mcphail> ogra_: so does that mean vivd in 2 months rather than 1 or is the hotfix outwith the monthly schedule?
[15:48] <ogra_> the hotfix is out of line (will go to bq this week iirc)
[15:49] <mcphail> ogra_: great! What is the hotfix hot fixing?
[15:49] <davmor2> mcphail: bugs
[15:49] <popey> bugs :)
[15:49] <popey> dammit
[15:49] <ogra_> hot bugs :)
[15:49] <mcphail> :)
[15:58] <mardy> Mirv: what's the plan for bug 1421009 as far as OA is concerned? Will you also add my branch to the silo, or should we land it separately?
[16:00] <jgdx> mpt, ping
[16:00] <Mirv> mardy: not landing at the moment, since we're not landing at the moment the Qt changes that regress OA. we're now landing libusermetrics (and possibly unity8) changes to workaround the original bug
[16:01] <Mirv> mardy: the OA changes may come handy anyway later since we still plan to ship the "real fix" once it's actually stable. in case OA has some changes of behavior that would be needed together with it.
[16:03] <mardy> Mirv: OK, so I'll take the OA changes and land them in the same branch for the Qt 5.5 fixes
[16:04] <mardy> Mirv: we'll land them ourselves, with low priority. OK?
[16:04] <Mirv> mardy: sounds good, and anyway better to have more proper ordering of those. but indeed low prio for now if we get this current workaround working that doesn't involve OA.
[16:06] <mardy> Mirv: it's a good fix anyway, it doesn't depend on changes in QtDBus; the changes in QtDBus expose it quite seriously, but anyway the current code could be racy
[16:06] <Mirv> mardy: yep, it'd good to have it!
[16:21] <kenvandine> awe, abeato: silo 16 is built
[16:56] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: ping
[17:04] <rsalveti> peat-psuwit: pong
[17:05] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: I still cannot figure out how to send vsid parameter properly.
[17:08] <rsalveti> peat-psuwit: iirc you said we need to send that to the device part of the hal right?
[17:08] <peat-psuwit> Do you have any additional idea?
[17:09] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: Yes, I said that.
[17:10] <rsalveti> peat-psuwit: so guess I just need to export the same property set for the device
[17:10] <rsalveti> then you could set that via pulseaudio
[17:10] <rsalveti> peat-psuwit: do you have the logic on the android side that sets that property for your device?
[17:10] <rsalveti> still unclear if that is indeed the property that does what you need
[17:12] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: It's in the vendor RIL. So, no logic code is available.
[17:14] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: But I'm sure that this parameter (along with another one) will make the voice go to earpeice.
[17:16] <peat-psuwit> I've already made a crude hack that successfully establish the call.
[17:21] <rsalveti> peat-psuwit: oh, cool, so first we need to export that property set in pulseaudio, to make it set the property at the device instead
[17:21] <rsalveti> and then have someone to set such properties
[17:21] <rsalveti> guess when the call starts/stops
[17:21] <rsalveti> brb
[17:23] <n-iCe> guys, is ubuntu phone available for shamu?
[17:25] <ogra_> shamu ?
[17:25] <n-iCe> Nexus 6
[17:25] <Tassadar> nope
[17:26] <ogra_> no, we use drivers from android 4.4 ... to my knowledge there is no 4.4 for the nexus 6
[17:27] <ogra_> someone would have to "reverse-port" it, if thats possible at all
[17:28] <popey> or wait till we inevitably have to move to android 5.x
[17:31] <n-iCe> right
[17:31] <n-iCe> thanks
[19:02] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: ping?
[19:03] <rsalveti> hey
[19:19] <elopio> oSoMoN: could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/webbrowser-app/fix_base_class/+merge/256519 ?
[19:21] <oSoMoN> elopio, approved
[19:21] <elopio> thanks.
[19:42] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: Pulseaudio has a proplist for card, right?
[19:42] <peat-psuwit> Can it be altered externally?
[20:18] <mibofra> oh hi rsalveti
[20:22] <chrisccoulson> is there a way to tell Qt to create an EGL context (when running on X) instead of a GLX context?
[22:27] <elopio> cwayne: https://trello.com/c/WkAe7JgA/6-enable-testing-of-community-core-click-apps-in-touch-devices
[22:28] <elopio> this card is not QAs top-priority, but should be the top in a month or so.
[22:29] <elopio> a month sounds bad... But there are things we can do in the meantime, with manually triggered executions.


[17:33] <simonov123> hi
[17:33] <simonov123> my name is lucio,i'm a developer
[17:33] <simonov123> i created a java app and i packaged it in deb pack
[17:34] <simonov123> i want to pubblish it to ubuntu-software