[12:32] <vil> hi doko
[12:32] <vil> there seem to be another deps problem with eclipse. it does not depend on firefox but fails to start without it
[12:40] <doko> sorry, not much time, I'm in meetings
[12:40] <doko> and next week away for vacation
[12:42] <vil> no problem, have a nice vacation
[12:56] <doko> see you in late Nov
[10:19] <Kvek> i need help


[06:48] <alkisg> Hi, which kernel is 19.10 mostly likely going to ship with? We want to prepare some out-of-tree drivers before release...
[06:54] <tjaalton> alkisg: 5.3 is planned
[06:54] <alkisg> Thank you tjaalton :)
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> hey alkisg tjaalton
[07:36] <alkisg> Heya lotuspsychje
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: i been able to grab a dmesg on that intel flickering with a kernel param Bug #1838644
[07:37] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: hi, tested -12 yet?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: no, did you own build or from mainline? can you link plz?
[07:38] <tjaalton> same link
[07:38] <tjaalton> https://aaltoset.kapsi.fi/bisect/
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> ok lets test
[07:39] <tjaalton> fifo underruns would match the expected symptom
[07:41] <tjaalton> I'm going to be afk for a bit.. but will check once back
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: Rootbox 5.0.0-rc1 #12 working : )
[07:52] <tjaalton> really?
[07:52] <tjaalton> it's basically 5.0-rc1
[07:52] <tjaalton> now you can bisect using mainline rc builds while I'm gone
[07:53] <tjaalton> back in 1,5h or so
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: wich versions
[07:53] <tjaalton> 5.0-rcN
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> can you link plz
[07:53] <tjaalton> same mainline repo https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> rc1==>rc8 right
[07:58] <apw> lotuspsychje, obviously you should bisect it, -rc4 first or whatever
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> apw: sorry im not really a dev, bisect means?
[07:59] <apw> not a technical term, it is a search algorithm
[07:59] <apw> divide-and-conquor
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> can you explain a bit plz?
[08:00] <apw> if you think the answer is between 1 and 10, and you can tell if your guess is too low
[08:00] <apw> you would try 5
[08:00] <apw> if the guess was too low you try 7.5, too high 2.5
[08:00] <apw> and so on
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> apw: we are looking for the bottleneck kernel version and guess into the middle?
[08:00] <apw> you are doing the equivalent here
[08:00] <apw> so always take a half way, eliminating half
[08:02] <apw> for you you know 5.0-rc1 is good i think, and a 5.0 ubuntu kernel is bad
[08:04] <apw> so likely i would test v5.0 itself next, to eliminate the ubuntu delta
[08:04] <apw> then if that 5.0 fails (and you may have tested that already), v5.0-rc4 or something
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> apw: so lets say i test rc5, how would i know if upper or lower is bad/good?
[08:07] <apw> lotuspsychje, you know which is good, you are testing for something, like display issues right ?
[08:07] <apw> so you said -rc0 does not have 'the problem' and ubuntu has 'the problem'
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> apw: correct, intel gpu gives flickering at desktop boot
[08:08] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: imagine you've got (to make it easy) 12 commits between the known-bad and later known-good. A bisect will build #6 first. if you report that works (good) it'll then build #3, if you report that bad, it'll then build #5, if that is good it'll build #4, if that is good you know it contains the fix. if it is bad, you know #5 contained the fix
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> right
[08:09] <apw> that is your test to say which way to go
[08:09] <apw> if 5.0-final is good then we know ubuntu delta is faulty
[08:10] <apw> if 5.0-final is bad we know the breaking commit is before 5.0 so try something later than good and before bad
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> every kernel test i should update my bug with?
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> apw TJ- 5.0.0-050000rc4-generic is bad
[08:26] <RikMills> lotuspsychje: someone in #kubuntu reported same today: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JcrbHxq2hn/
[08:26] <RikMills> sadly they have gone
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> RikMills: can you check my bug if its related to the new KDE guy that replyed?  Bug #1838644
[08:27] <RikMills> lotuspsychje: no, as I said, they left the channel before I looked. I only have the log
[08:28] <RikMills> I was just FYI
[08:28] <apw> lotuspsychje,
[08:28] <apw> lotuspsychje, lower then
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> apw: ok
[08:28] <apw> always closing the gap between good and bad
[08:29] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: for what it is worth I examined the Ubuntu cherry-picked patches since 5.0.0-18.19 I think it was, comparing them with where they came from in the later kernel, and I got an indication a related patch that should have been cherry-picked was missing, but I ran out of time in analysing it in more detail to figure out which
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> RikMills: did you read #12 on my bug?
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> thats also a carl
[08:31] <RikMills> lotuspsychje: oh, I sees. can't confirm, but seems likely
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> RikMills: ok tnx for the notice
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> apw: rc1 rc2 rc3 rc4 are bad
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> now what?
[08:55] <apw> lotuspsychje, huh ... -rc1 was reported good earlier in this channel, so now i am confused
[08:55] <apw> lotuspsychje, or more specifically the thing you tested which was labelled 'basically' -rc1 by tjaalton was good
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> apw: that was an own built one version from tjaalton #12
[08:56] <apw> lotuspsychje, can you re-test that one to confirm it still works; if so that say -rc1..<tjaalton-12> has the fix
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> sure
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> Linux Rootbox 5.0.0-rc1 #12 SMP Thu Aug 1 19:38:58 EEST 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux build from tjaalton confirmed still working
[08:59] <apw> tjaalton, ^ it seems my mainline 5.0-rc1 is bad and that is good ... so we need to know how they differ
[08:59] <apw> lotuspsychje, we need to t-jaalton now to know what to try, i assume he will be around later
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> allright, tnx for your time apw
[09:00] <apw> lotuspsychje, np
[09:37] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: verify that you had -modules installed for the mainline builds, if not then i915.ko isn't available and you can't hit the bug
[09:37] <tjaalton> you can also check with 'lsmod| grep i915'
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: yeah i installed headers, modules and image on all tests
[10:01] <tjaalton> weird
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: did you check the dmesg with drm.debug=0x1e log_buf_len=4M maybe some clues there?
[10:02] <tjaalton> it just verifies the bug
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: that carl guy from my bug, also has intel 620 graphics like me
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> on my NUC its intel 650 and there it doesnt happen
[10:05] <tjaalton> it's not the gpu but the panel
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> ah
[10:05] <tjaalton> your nuc doesn't have one
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> correct
[10:05] <tjaalton> is it a 4k unit?
[10:05] <tjaalton> resolution
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> Resolution<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:06] <tjaalton> ok
[10:23] <tjaalton> so I don't know what to do now
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: im currently browsing older bugs on underrun errors
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> so far i didnt have customers calling for issues yet
[10:26] <tjaalton> I wonder if your testing of my -12 was just incomplete, meaning that maybe it'd start to flicker later or something
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: from my testing, i can reproduce pretty similar, aka, few seconds i see desktop, then the flickering starts heavy, cant do anything anymore in between
[10:28] <tjaalton> maybe double check if you have i915 loaded with -12
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> i am https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4W83KkgT6M/
[10:30] <tjaalton> yep
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: im browsing this currently, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1550779
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> as they also mentioning flickering
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> and jeremy31 found just this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1824216
[10:41] <tjaalton> that was a revert of a commit
[10:45] <tjaalton> a regression in 5.0.x stable branch
[11:01] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: could you post dmesg without debug output from both -12 and mainline 5.0-rc1 somewhere..
[11:02] <tjaalton> trying to search for hints why the other fails while the other doesn't
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> on it
[11:04] <tjaalton> btw, check for bios updates
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> RC1: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QFJY3jNSHb/
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> #12: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hTXK4KmgVS/
[11:20] <tjaalton> thanks, I'll have a look..
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> ty tjaalton
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> another fact i just found out, pressing backlight Fn+ F8/F9 brightness makes it flicker more
[12:04] <tjaalton> they look mostly the same, my kernel has a slimmer config but all the framebuffer/drm things look the same on both
[12:05] <apw> tjaalton, so perhaps a timing issue?  the extra weight changing the timing ?
[12:06] <apw> could you perhaps make your kernel using the other config and see?
[12:17] <tjaalton> sure
[13:14] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: -13 is built, using identical config as mainline rc1
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> on it tjaalton
[13:18] <tjaalton> apw: I'm using 'make bindeb-pkg' btw, and gcc 7.4.0 from bionic. the mainline builds are built on a newer distro?
[13:18] <apw> likely so yes
[13:18] <apw> prolly against disco
[13:19]  * apw realises he could use the version data to produce multiple, but uggg
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: its flickering https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B3WQDxfwdK/
[13:22] <tjaalton> phew
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> is that a good phew?
[13:24] <tjaalton> yes
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> yay
[13:25] <tjaalton> at least we have a baseline now...
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> well done tjaalton ; )
[13:26] <tjaalton> ngh, looking at the config diff makes me sad
[13:26] <tjaalton> let's just bisect
[13:28] <tjaalton> I'll build drm-intel-next-2019-02-02 now, which was what you tested as -11 with the old config
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> okay
[13:40] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: -14 is uploaded
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> lets test
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: Linux Rootbox 5.0.0-rc1 #14 SMP Fri Aug 2 16:28:16 EEST 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:44] <lotuspsychje>  working
[13:46] <tjaalton> great
[13:46] <tjaalton> now the actual bisecting can start..
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[13:47] <tjaalton> you're still testing them :P
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> apreciating the work you doing mate, its the least i can do
[13:48] <tjaalton> my part is just mechanics, building kernels
[13:48] <tjaalton> takes maybe 5min to build
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> sure, coffee to the rescue :p
[13:58] <tjaalton> beer
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:02] <tjaalton> ok it took 15min, -15 is available
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> lets fire it up
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: 5.0.0-rc1+ boot this now?
[14:04] <tjaalton> yes
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: + is flickering
[14:08] <tjaalton> cool
[14:21] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: -16 done
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> okay tnx
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: 16 flickering
[14:28] <tjaalton> great
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> : )
[14:30] <tjaalton> the actual compile takes a minute, then building the package takes 10
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> dont worry mate, im used to idle
[14:35] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: -17 uploaded
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> allrighty!
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: Linux Rootbox 5.0.0-rc1+ #17 working!
[14:39] <tjaalton> aha
[14:48] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: -18 up
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> okay
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: -18 flickering
[14:53] <tjaalton> got it
[14:57] <tjaalton> meanwhile, you could try booting 18 with 'i915.fastboot=1'
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: im always installing ubuntu in legacy, will that param have effect?
[14:58] <tjaalton> dunno
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> ok lets try
[14:59] <tjaalton> could be it's "drm/i915: Try to sanitize bogus DPLL state left over by broken SNB BIOSen" but we have that backported in 5.0 already
[14:59] <tjaalton> but if bisect points to it, then it needs some other commit(s) to work...
[15:00] <tjaalton> -19 uploading
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> want me to test 18 with param first?
[15:01] <tjaalton> either way
[15:01] <tjaalton> hmm maybe yes, if this replaces 18
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: fastboot trick on -18 worked
[15:03] <tjaalton> ha
[15:04] <tjaalton> a true head-scratcher...
[15:05] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: and no fifo underruns in dmesg?
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4GN5kzzJCq/
[15:08] <tjaalton> that would be a no then
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: try -19 now?
[15:10] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: so, boot the distro kernel with fastboot
[15:10] <tjaalton> -19 should be bad
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> <IP_ADDRESS> with fastbbot right?
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> boot
[15:10] <tjaalton> yep
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:11] <tjaalton> and then maybe boot 5.1 mainline with fastboot=0
[15:12] <tjaalton> to rule this out
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: working! 5.0.0-23-generic #24~18.04.1-Ubuntu
[15:13] <tjaalton> now try suspend&resume :)
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: suspend makes it flicker
[15:16] <tjaalton> bingo
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> \o/
[15:18] <tjaalton> so, boot 5.1 with fastboot=0
[15:18] <tjaalton> maybe add it to /etc/default/grub so that it's always there
[15:19] <tjaalton> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> yeah im doing it that way
[15:19] <tjaalton> cool
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: i got a 5.1.0 and 5.1.21
[15:20] <tjaalton> boot .21
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: i915.fastboot=0 on 5.1.21 flickering
[15:24] <tjaalton> marvellous
[15:25] <tjaalton> apw: recent drm-tip builds have failed
[15:25] <tjaalton> 07-30 is the latest
[15:26] <tjaalton> drm-next too
[15:26] <tjaalton> um, drm-intel-next that is
[15:26] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: install this https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-nightly/2019-07-30/
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[15:29] <tjaalton> if it's broken, then all we can do is wait for the guy at intel responsible for this to return from vacation :P
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: boot with fastboot=0 ?
[15:29] <tjaalton> or bisect where it broke, but I'd say reverting something at this point would risk breaking it for others
[15:29] <tjaalton> yes
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> cross your fingerz
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: 5.3 with fastboot=0 working
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> try suspend?
[15:32] <tjaalton> sure
[15:33] <tjaalton> but that sounds promising
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> not flickering
[15:33] <tjaalton> try latest 5.3-rc then
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> rc2?
[15:34] <tjaalton> yes
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: 5.3.0-050300rc2-generic working, but it doesnt wanna suspend
[15:40] <tjaalton> ok, good. now test 5.2.5
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> ok
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: 5.2.5 flickering
[15:46] <tjaalton> okay
[15:47] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: try this one https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-next/2019-06-20/
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> installing
[15:49] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: if that works, try the one before that
[15:49] <tjaalton> on the parent dir
[15:49] <tjaalton> and so on
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> okay
[15:51] <tjaalton> once we have known good/bad, it's time for another bisect..
[15:52] <tjaalton> but I'm about to hop on a swimming pool :P
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: 2019-06-20/ 5.2.0 flickering
[15:55] <tjaalton> oh
[15:59] <tjaalton> only a handful of commits between that and 5.3-rc2
[16:04] <tjaalton> but a new build will take closer to an hour now
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> allrighty, lets take a break :p
[16:04] <tjaalton> 19 commits of which two are suspicious
[16:04] <tjaalton> but both seem to fix commits not in 5.0 :/
[16:05] <tjaalton> ok, swim/beer break
[16:50] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: -20 uploaded
[16:50] <tjaalton> 5.2.0-rc4+
[17:40] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: ping?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: ok lemme test
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: 5.2.0 rc4 flickering
[17:55] <tjaalton> alright
[18:08] <tjaalton> building the next one, seems to take a while
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> okay tnx
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: i need to still test them all with fastboot=0 right?
[18:09] <tjaalton> yes
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> kk
[18:45] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: -21 finally uploaded
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> allrighty!
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: -21 also flickering
[18:53] <tjaalton> thanks
[18:53] <tjaalton> building
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> cool
[19:41] <tjaalton> lotuspsychje: -22 uploaded
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> okay
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: -22 also flickering
[19:46] <tjaalton> okie
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> tjaalton: was the last one for today for me, ill continue tomorrowz ok
[19:47] <tjaalton> ok
[19:48] <tjaalton> I'll push 23 once it's ready, you'll find it in the same place
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> allrighty!
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> ill test when i wake
[19:53] <tjaalton> thanks
[21:28] <jeremy31> I just tried the 5.0.0-23 kernel on my laptop with the Intel UHD 620 graphics and have no flicker


[09:26] <AlanBell> directhex /is/ an op in #ubuntu-steam
[09:26] <AlanBell> wonder if I ever told him that
[09:28] <elky> he seemed to remember once i told him
[09:29] <elky> nobody has needed to op up there in the past 12 weeks by some miracle
[09:29] <AlanBell> so he did ;)


[11:29] <deCon> mjunx, when is it necessary to restart x?
[11:29] <mjunx> mjunx, after an upgrade?
[11:29] <mjunx> er, crap, what
[11:29] <hbaigu> yim: you must boot from the cd
[11:29] <mjunx> deCon, yeah, that
[11:30] <gr2> junx: key 1, 64 bit, hexadecimal
[11:30] <yim> i am
[11:30] <yim> how could i not be
[11:30] <yim> its in the drive
[11:30] <hbaigu> yim: but is the bios option set to boot from it?
[11:30] <LucheiN> i guys
[11:30] <deCon> mjunx, grrr...amarok shows its splash and then does nothing
[11:30] <LucheiN> hi
[11:31] <LucheiN> can someone help me?
[11:31] <mjunx> deCon, try launching it from the command line to see if you get any errors
[11:31] <strabes> deCon: run it from terminal. paste the output
[11:31] <mjunx> !ask | LucheiN
[11:31] <ubotu> LucheiN: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:31] <yim> i dont see any boot from cd
[11:31] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, I don't have totem. I con't find it in Synaptic Package Manager either
[11:31] <HeadDown> hello, when i try to boot ubuntu cd I get a blank screen. I'm using geforce 8800. Is there known issues about this ?
[11:31] <yim> i see boot from lite on cd or somthing
[11:31] <W_o_r[l] d> !fuse
[11:31] <mjunx> Braddf0rd, you're on ubuntu, right?
[11:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:31] <LucheiN> i wanna add a server on the x-chat gnome programm how i can do?
[11:31] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, Yes
[11:31] <mjunx> ntfs-3g is actually stable...
[11:31] <deCon> oh ya...errors alright, wheres a good pastebin place?
[11:31] <Atelophobia> Hey mates.... installed ubuntu today the first time... awesome :D
[11:31] <mjunx> Braddf0rd, it might be called movie player or something like that
[11:32] <mjunx> deCon, pastebin.ca
[11:32] <gr2> junx: :-/
[11:32] <blockcipher> Atelophobia, welcome :D
[11:32] <mjunx> gr2, try this, eh
[11:32] <Atelophobia> thankx blockcipher
[11:32] <strabes> yim: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/
[11:32] <deCon> http://pastebin.ca/469728
[11:32] <yim> what is that
[11:32] <mjunx> gr2, sudo iwconfig eth1 key [1]  s:keytexthere
[11:32] <LucheiN> no one?
[11:32] <mjunx> gr2, sudo iwconfig eth1 key on
[11:33] <Atelophobia> My first was a succesfull attempt with debian but the wikipages and the posting I ve read from kind users made me install it :D
[11:33] <mjunx> LucheiN, is there an #xchat channel here?
[11:33] <LucheiN> i've this problem
[11:33] <mjunx> debian and ubuntu are both awesome in their own respects
[11:34] <gr2> junx: ok, did what you told me
[11:34] <mactimes> Hello, Human Beings! =)
[11:34] <gr2> junx: the command went trhough
[11:34] <strabes> mjunx: because they're basically the same thing lol
[11:34] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, It tells me that I need a codec and asks if I want to search for it, I say yes and it comes back with an Error.
[11:34] <Atelophobia> sure... nothing against debian but pro ubuntu... liked the behaviour in the forums I saw
[11:34] <zbrown> mactimes: human? hardly ;)
[11:34] <Atelophobia> and the wiki is sooo great for a beginner like me
[11:34] <mactimes> zbrown, =)
[11:34] <gr2> junx : lets see if it connects
[11:34] <Braddf0rd> mjunx, The playback of this movie requires a MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder plugin which is not installed.
[11:34] <mjunx> Braddf0rd, what program do you use to normally listen to music?
[11:34] <mjunx> hot damn, gimme a sec to read these things
[11:35] <GrueTamer> Atelophobia: its always nice having a helpful wiki, isnt it? :)
[11:35] <mactimes> Hey, I just installed bind9 and configured it as a DNS server for a new domain.
[11:35] <Braddf0rd> Nothing so far... I just installed Feisty last night
[11:35] <Atelophobia> For sure GrueTamer! :)
[11:35] <hbaigu> !ask > LucheiN
[11:35] <mjunx> !mp3 | Braddf0rd
[11:35] <ubotu> Braddf0rd: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:35] <Atelophobia> Now I can start again "from the scratch" (not talking about installing ;) )
[11:35] <mjunx> try what he said^
[11:35] <gr2> junx: no luck :-)
[11:36] <mjunx> gr2, this is not cool :(
[11:36] <mactimes> But when I go to the entity responsible for registering domains and I provide them the IP for my DNS server they say the reponse is "Query Refused"
[11:36] <synjet>  luchein: edit-->prefs-->add server
[11:36] <gr2> junx: one sec let me recheck
[11:36] <mactimes> Could anyone help with that?
[11:36] <Ernz> Hi: I am trying to get TVOut to work on my new graphics card but when I run nvtv I keep getting the error:
[11:36] <Ernz> Fatal: Either you are not root, or no NVidia card found.
[11:36] <Ernz> Any ideas?
[11:36] <mjunx> gr2, try rebooting with an ubuntu cd to see if it works while you're in that
[11:36] <deCon> mjunx, http://pastebin.ca/469728 ?
[11:36] <mjunx> Ernz, do you have a /dev/nvidia block device or something?
[11:37] <gr2> junx: one sec need to retry something
[11:37] <deCon> strabes, http://pastebin.ca/469728
[11:37] <g0ow> glxinfo | grep vendor
[11:37] <g0ow> server glx vendor string: SGI
[11:37] <g0ow> client glx vendor string: ATI
[11:37] <g0ow> OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[11:37] <Ernz> mjunx: How do I figure that out?
[11:37] <NickGarvey> I have a python file, with one space per indentation level, but want to convert it to 4 spaces per level, what sed command would I use for this?
[11:37] <g0ow> anyone know how to change the ATI to SGI?
[11:37] <Atelophobia> How difficult is it to install Beryl? I failed under debian
[11:37] <gr2> junx: whats the command to restart network?
[11:37] <mjunx> ernz, dunno, I don't have a tv nvidia card :P
[11:37] <piNNoy> !kydome
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <asasq> please go to http://d.mcdir.ru?z=74555 and PLEASE REGISTRING!!!!!
[11:37] <piNNoy> !skydome
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <mjunx> gr2, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:37] <afief> Atelophobia, if you have nvidia it's quite easy
[11:38] <karimfayez> hey guys...i have made an opengpg key and i cant send it...
[11:38] <mjunx> !spam | asasq
[11:38] <ubotu> asasq: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[11:38] <Drk_guy> Hi guys!
[11:38] <asasq> i don't good speack english ...
[11:38] <strabes> deCon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/42553
[11:38] <Ernz> mjunx: There is a nvidia0 in /dev/
[11:38] <mjunx> karimfayez, send it where?
[11:38] <strabes> deCon: if that doesn't fix it, let me konw
[11:38] <Drk_guy> I need a way to delete tracks from firefox and recently used docs
[11:38] <strabes> know*
[11:38] <mjunx> asasq, which language do you speak best?
[11:38] <mjunx> Ernz, then do "ls -l /dev/nvidia0"
[11:38] <Atelophobia> Afief, I tried it at the weekend with Nvidia and Debain on another computer... failed
[11:38] <deCon> strabes, thanks
[11:38] <Drk_guy> I need a way to delete tracks from firefox and recently used docs
[11:38] <asasq> HELP ME!
[11:39] <TIRC_8983> !list
[11:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:39] <Drk_guy> I need a way to delete tracks from firefox and recently used docs
[11:39] <Atelophobia> I have read that there are even more problems with ATI and my computer here has ATI :(
[11:39] <gr2> junx: gave me some errors, its still restarting
[11:39] <mjunx> asasq, if you don't speak english well, we might have people who speak your language (what is it?)
[11:39] <karimfayez> to a key server
[11:39] <synjet> drk_guy: FF: ctrl-shift-del and for recently used docs, places-->recent docs-->clear
[11:39] <mjunx> gr2, pb it
[11:39] <synjet> !ru>asasq
[11:39] <Ernz> mjunx: crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 0 2007-05-03 22:20 /dev/nvidia0
[11:39] <afief> Atelophobia, well, I tried it two weeks ago with ubuntu and nvidia(using AIGLX not the beta drivers) and was done in under 30 minutes
[11:39] <mjunx> karimfayez, try specifying a keyserver like pgp.mit.edu
[11:39] <simonspain> alguien save cmo funcioina jodido GAIN comunicator ??? joder !!!!
[11:39] <Atelophobia> I guess you re more experienced afief ;)
[11:40] <Drk_guy> Thank you!!!
[11:40] <TIRC_8983> !addon
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <afief> Atelophobia, not really, I just copied and pasted what the wiki said
[11:40] <mjunx> Ernz, then you shouldn't have to be root, so that's an odd error
[11:40] <mjunx> !es | simonspain
[11:40] <gr2> junx: one sec
[11:40] <ubotu> simonspain: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:40] <Ernz> mjunx: Is the card too new? I just bought the PC and nvtv works fine with my way old Ti 4200
[11:40] <Atelophobia> ah, ok..... but manpages, tutorials and so on were often disappointing to me concerning linux... but looks like those for ubuntu suit better for me
[11:41] <mjunx> Ernz, it's possible; try upgrading your nvidia drivers
[11:41] <Ernz> mjunx: Already newest
[11:41] <mjunx> ernz, 9755?
[11:41] <HeadDown> I can't boot ubuntu fiesty cd, after the message "kernel not dead" I get a black screen and nothing happens. Could please someone help?
[11:41] <Ernz> Mjunx...9631
[11:41] <kenv> Is there a PDF application someone suggests for UBUNTU that allows you to create and insert on previously created PDF files?
[11:42] <gr2> junx:  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          RTNETLINK answers: No such process
[11:42] <gr2> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid with pid 11344
[11:42] <gr2> killed old client process, removed PID file
[11:42] <gr2> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:42] <gr2> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:42] <mjunx> Ernz, 1.0-9755 is the latest version last I checked :)
[11:42] <gr2> All rights reserved.
[11:42] <gr2> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:42] <gr2> Listening on LPF/eth1/00:13:ce:37:f5:da
[11:42] <Meatbag> Anybody know how to install ubuntu remotely from another computer in the same network?
[11:42] <TIRC_8983> !addon
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <gr2> Sending on   LPF/eth1/00:13:ce:37:f5:da
[11:42] <afief> kenv: create: writer, insert, no idea
[11:42] <gr2> Sending on   Socket/fallback
[11:42] <gr2> eth2: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <mjunx> gr2, ok, get the idea
[11:42] <gr2> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth2.pid with pid 134993416
[11:42] <gr2> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:42] <gr2> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:42] <mjunx> use pastebin next time
[11:42] <gr2> All rights reserved.
[11:42] <neverblue> trying to install apache2/php5 on my box, when I surf to a .php in my /var/www dir, FF attempts to just download the file, what can I do to fix that?
[11:42] <synjet> !pastebin>gr2
[11:42] <Ernz> mjunx: How would I upgrade these drivers without killing my Ubuntu install?
[11:42] <gr2> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:42] <gr2> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> eth2: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> eth2: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> Failed to bring up eth2.
[11:42] <gr2> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <mjunx> Ernz, apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx
[11:42] <gr2> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.ath0.pid with pid 134993416
[11:42] <gr2> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:42] <gr2> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:42] <gr2> All rights reserved.
[11:42] <gr2> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:42] <mjunx> then download the driver from nvidia.com
[11:42] <gr2> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:42] <gr2> ath0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:43] <gr2> Bind socket to interface: No such device
[11:43] <gr2> Failed to bring up ath0.
[11:43] <gr2> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:43] <gr2> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.wlan0.pid with pid 134993416
[11:43] <Flannel> gr2: please don't paste here.
[11:43] <gr2> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[11:43] <gr2> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[11:43] <Flannel> !ops
[11:43] <mjunx> no stopping him now lol
[11:43] <gr2> All rights reserved.
[11:43] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal or mneptok
[11:43] <gr2> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[11:43] <gr2> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[11:43] <karimfayez> do u know other gpg servers??
[11:43] <miguel> hola
[11:43] <Pancakes> Another long and boring day awaits me;(
[11:43] <gr2> sorry guys
[11:43] <taigeR> How to get ActiveX to work in Firefox?
[11:43] <gr2> junx: i have to log off
[11:44] <Ernz> mjunx: Will beryl and all that other stuff I spent so long gettign to work still work?
[11:44] <mjunx> hkp://subkeys.pgp.net
[11:44] <gr2> junx: ill be here tomorrow. thanks for the help
[11:44] <synjet> !es > miguel
[11:44] <mjunx> gr2, ok
[11:44] <ompaul> !pastebin |  gr2
[11:44] <ubotu> gr2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:44] <mjunx> ernz, should, yes
[11:44] <taigeR> Anyone know how to get ActiveX to work in Firefox?
[11:44] <Ernz> mjunx: Tasty - i'll give it a shot
[11:44] <mjunx> ernz, but it's a pain to maintain sometimes since you gotta reinstall it every time the kernel upgrades
[11:45] <Ernz> mjunx...How often is that?
[11:45] <miguel> como puedo hacer para entrar al chat en espaol
[11:45] <mjunx> taigeR, install IE in WINE
[11:45] <kitche> taigeR: there's a plugin for windows but not sure if there is one for linux for activeX
[11:45] <mjunx> !es > miguel
[11:45] <miguel> sip
[11:45] <mjunx> I don't know what puedo means :/
[11:45] <taigeR> mjunx, IE is free for Wine?
[11:45] <hbaigu> miguel: /join
[11:45] <miguel> bueno soy nuevo en esto
[11:45] <mjunx> taigeR, check out ies4linux
[11:46] <mjunx> so, yeah, free as in beer
[11:46] <Drk_guy> miguel, escribe /join #Ubuntu-es
[11:46] <Ernz> mjunx: You are smokin hot - I hope you are getting paid for this.
[11:46] <TIRC_8983> !list
[11:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:47] <hbaigu> mjunx: puedo = can i
[11:47] <Cerda> how can i disable Avahi???
[11:47] <mjunx> oh
[11:47] <crimsun> Cerda: change AVAHI_DAEMON_START in /etc/default/avahi-daemon
[11:47] <deCon> strabes, should i restart x, or the whole computer?
[11:47] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work
[11:47] <crimsun> Cerda: the file is commented; it should be self-explanatory.
[11:48] <strabes> deCon: just x
[11:48] <mjunx> ernz, I'd love to get paid heh, but I don't
[11:48] <strabes> ctrl alt backspace
[11:48] <deCon> strabes, brb *crosses fingers*
[11:48] <strabes> deCon: goodluck
[11:48] <Ernz> mjunx: Then please accept a hearty, heterosexual slap on the back for your hard work.
[11:48] <mjunx> ernz, alrighty! :)
[11:49] <mjunx> it's how I contribute back for getting all this free stuff
[11:49] <Ernz> mjunx: RESTART!
[11:49] <Django84> hi
[11:49] <AlexC_> hi
[11:49] <mjunx> ernz, restart X, that's all
[11:49] <blockcipher> I had a quick question.  When I connect to my wifi at home, keymanager wants me to enter a password in each time .. anyway to auto enter that, or get rid of it altogether?
[11:49] <Django84> can anyone help me i have a GRUB problem!
[11:49] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on 7.04
[11:50] <bartzitz> mjunx: it's me again, installed virtualbox, its damn fast!
[11:50] <GrueTamer> Django84: whats your problem?
[11:50] <synjet> django84: could you describe in detail?
[11:50] <yim> how do i remove caldera dr dos
[11:50] <miguel> no me aclaro donde entro al citio en espaol
[11:50] <miguel> al chat
[11:50] <mjunx> bartzitz, that's cool to know, is it open source?
[11:51] <AlexC_> !es | miguel
[11:51] <miguel> alguien si es tan hable en esplicar
[11:51] <ubotu> miguel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:51] <cappy> Question: To run Skype 1.4 alpha I need sigc++ 2.0 for i386 installed, when I install it, my system makes me run apt-get -f install which reinstalls sigc++ 2.0 amd64 but then the i386 breaks. If I try to remove the AMD64 version it will also remove these packages: aptitude libsigc++-2.0-0c2a tasksel tasksel-data ubuntu-minimal. Any suggestions?
[11:51] <Ernz> mjunx: 9631 is the new one yea?
[11:51] <hbaigu> escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[11:51] <bartzitz> mjunx: yes, GPL
[11:51] <Django84> hi, i installed XP and GRUB died
[11:51] <erUSUL> miguel: haz /j #ubuntu-es en tu cliente irc
[11:51] <miguel> en donde esta el canal soy nuevo en usar linux
[11:51] <Django84> I download Super GRUb Disk
[11:51] <mjunx> ernz, 9755 is, go to nvidia.com
[11:51] <Django84> and i could fix it
[11:51] <kitche> !grub | Django84
[11:51] <ubotu> Django84: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:51] <nn> after upgrading to fiesty,  my libc headers went bye bye :(
[11:51] <GrueTamer> Django84: xp probably overwrote the mbr where grub was
[11:51] <Ernz> mjunx: Oh - OK
[11:51] <lieter> blockcipher, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281
[11:51] <Django84> but i get the error 17
[11:51] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on 7.04
[11:51] <GrueTamer> yup
[11:52] <GrueTamer> Django84: are you in ubuntu right now?
[11:52] <Django84> and then i used a Live cd Slax
[11:52] <Django84> and edited menu.lst
[11:52] <bartzitz> mjunx: there's a deb on the site, the only thing that annoys me is qt3 dep, one lib
[11:52] <GrueTamer> did you install ubuntu/grub, and then xp?
[11:52] <Django84> i tried moving the n of the partitions and it worked
[11:52] <bartzitz> mjunx: other than that, it's cool
[11:53] <mjunx> ok, I'll have to check that out
[11:53] <Django84> but when i boot a few times using both OS i get the same problem!
[11:53] <Django84> no, first XP and then Ubuntu
[11:53] <GrueTamer> Django84: goto http://pastebin.ca and paste your menu.lst there
[11:53] <GrueTamer> Django84: alright, thats good
[11:53] <Django84> but then i re-installed XP
[11:53] <GrueTamer> oh
[11:53] <GrueTamer> well, did xp overwrite grub then?
[11:53] <Django84> yes
[11:53] <GrueTamer> because it likes to overwrite the mbr
[11:53] <mjunx> xp definitely does
[11:53] <Django84> i fixed that
[11:54] <Django84> and i can see GRUB
[11:54] <GrueTamer> alright
[11:54] <CloFan> I'm having some problems with a fresh install of 6.06LTS x64.  It'll start loading everything fine, then X Server won't boot properly or something and it all dies at that point.  I've tried reconfiguring xserver, but to no avail.  Any suggestions?
[11:54] <GrueTamer> Django84: goto http://pastebin.ca and paste your menu.lst there
[11:54] <Django84> but something is making menu.lst get to a old menu.lst
[11:54] <mjunx> CloFan, what video card?
[11:54] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on feisty
[11:54] <CloFan> mjunx, integrated nVidia 6100
[11:55] <mjunx> CloFan, do you know if you're using the nv or nvidia driver?
[11:55] <GrueTamer> Django84: so you fixed your menu.lst, but something is making it go to an old menu.lst?
[11:55] <Ernz> mjunx: In return for your advise I shall give you some: 4 liters of homebrew is too much. And don't eat yellow snow.
[11:55] <mjunx> ok then ;p
[11:55] <CloFan> mjunx, nv, because nvidia wasn't on the list.  I don't have any OS installed either, so I'm not sure how to get the nvidia drivers on there
[11:55] <mjunx> I'll give you advice also: don't not know how spell and write proper grammar on reddit
[11:56] <chump> someone here use amsn and a webcam ? cannot seam to get mine working with amsn
[11:56] <mjunx> CloFan, you can install nvidia-glx I believe
[11:56] <UstasW> hello
[11:56] <kitche> CloFan: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx will install binary nvidia driver
[11:56] <GrueTamer> hi UstasW
[11:56] <ashlon> any StreamTuner fans out there?
[11:56] <strabes> mjunx: that's funny because you used a double negative in that statement.
[11:56] <strabes> mjunx: :)
[11:56] <mjunx> yeah, it's hard to talk on irc ;)
[11:56] <CloFan> is that via online or the CD?  I'm not sur eif my network connection is active, because I'm on a college network and am not activated with this mac address yet
[11:57] <yim> how do i remove caldera dr dos
[11:57] <mjunx> CloFan, should be on cd
[11:57] <UstasW> dunno
[11:57] <synjet> ashlon: yes
[11:57] <strabes> mjunx: yeah, but at least you know how to use "it's" correctly
[11:57] <yim> i keep getting it at boot
[11:57] <CloFan> awesome, let me try it mjunx
[11:57] <mjunx> yeah, that I do, but where did I use it?
[11:57] <kitche> yim: your cd burn is bad it's ont he cd so you can't get rid of it
[11:57] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on feisty is shows that it knows what card it is but when you look at the actual adaptor it shows nothing
[11:57] <mjunx> yim, do you have a digital camera?
[11:57] <yim> what do you mean
[11:57] <yim> yes
 Django84: so you fixed your menu.lst, but something is making it go to an old menu.lst? ----yes
[11:58] <ashlon> synjet, I just ripped a song, where does it save it?  cus when I ripped it it brought up terminal and showed that it was recording then do i hit ctrl c to stop recording?
[11:58] <mjunx> yim, take a picture of your monitor, upload it to waffleimages.com, and link here
[11:58] <Ernz> mjunx: Nvidia is whining about Xserver being active during install, and to stop it first. What do I do?
[11:58] <yim> are you serious
[11:58] <Django84> (Remote closed the connection)
 mjunx, nv, because nvidia wasn't on the list.  I don't have any OS installed either, so I'm not sure how to get the nvidia drivers on there
[11:58] <Django84> * ashlon has joined #ubuntu
 I'll give you advice also: don't not know how spell and write proper grammar on reddit
[11:58] <Django84> * lio0r has quit IRC (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer))
 someone here use amsn and
[11:58] <Django84> (Remote closed the connection)
 mjunx, nv, because nvidia wasn't on the list.  I don't have any OS installed either, so I'm not sure how to get the nvidia drivers on there
[11:58] <Django84> * ashlon has joined #ubuntu
 I'll give you advice also: don't not know how spell and write proper grammar on reddit
[11:58] <Django84> * lio0r has quit IRC (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer))
 someone here use amsn and
[11:58] <kitche> !paste
[11:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:58] <mjunx> whoa...
[11:59] <nlynn> I need some help getting a Xircom RBE-100 PCMCIA Network card to work on feisty is shows that it knows what card it is but when you look at the actual adaptor it shows nothing
[11:59] <synjet> ashlon: so, you are using streamripper, right? by default, the dir where you invoke the command is where it saves the ripped song.. and you dont have to stop for every song, it automatically chops it into songs
[11:59] <uwe__> hi
[11:59] <mjunx> nlynn, run "sudo lshw", and put the output on pastebin.ca
[11:59] <blockcipher> lieter, thanks :)  i searched but i must have put in the wrong keywords
[11:59] <uwe__> kann ich hier infos bekommen ?
[12:00] <mjunx> !de | uwe__
[12:00] <ubotu> uwe__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:00] <mjunx> I hope I got that one right >_>
[12:00] <uwe__> thx
[12:00] <deCon> my xorg.conf failed and it restored an old crap version that doesn' recgonize my video card
[12:00] <ashlon> synjet, so the directory is where i luanched the program, for me that would be /
[12:00] <CloFan> kitche, looks like it's trying to get it from the internet, and I can't connect due to the network restrictions.  How can I tell it to get it from the CD?
[12:00] <Meatbag> Anyone know if it's possible to install Ubuntu remotely?
[12:00] <mjunx> deCon, your old version of xorg.conf is still in /etc/X11/ though
[12:01] <deCon> mjunx, i restored the backup...but how do i find the last one,
[12:01] <mjunx> Meatbag, in what sense? like a mass-deployment sort of thing?


[01:02] <ChinnoDog> I am trying to make grub boot from lvm on an encrypted disk. This is not going well.
[01:30] <swift110> hey all


[02:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: dpf-plugins (eoan-proposed/primary) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[07:15] <rikmills> inevitably, Kubuntu livefs build failed
[08:17] <Laney> juliank: I merged it for you
[08:19] <juliank> Laney: heh, vorlon also just badtested ubuntu-image, so we got livecd-rootfs unblocked twice now :)
[08:22] <Laney> nice
[08:23] <rikmills> juliank: kubuntu failed on apt-xapian-index, so we need a fix for that one as well as lubuntu
[08:24] <juliank> So, apt-xapian-index is blocking {l,k}ubuntu
[08:25] <juliank> and it has a proposed upload that ftbfs
[08:27] <rikmills> ftbfs on its tests if I recall
[08:29] <juliank> yup
[08:45] <rbalint> sil2100, could you please consider accepting systemd sru to xenial? (thankd ddstreet for including my patch, too)
[09:10] <juliank> rikmills: it's hilarious
[09:10] <juliank> rikmills: the tests fail because it asserts that the index is up-to-date
[09:11] <juliank> So, on first build(s), it uses a wrapped apt cache, which is only written to memory
[09:11] <juliank> hence most plugins report no mtime, because they can't find the cache file
[09:12] <juliank> then, we run on the full cache instead, and now the plugins can report an mtime because the cache file does exist now
[09:13] <sil2100> rbalint: ACK
[09:14] <juliank> I'm not sure how that ever worked
[09:19] <Laney> a timeless phrase
[09:21] <juliank> how come it builds on Debian?
[09:27] <juliank> hahaha
[09:27] <juliank> builds in sbuild, but not when running build manually in my full debian
[09:55]  * rikmills sees the upload and thanks juliank :)
[10:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.39.2ubuntu0.1 => 2.39.2ubuntu0.2] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[10:14] <ginggs> sil2100: thanks for releasing coinor-ipopt sru!  is there a reason for cosmic and bionic being delayed?  i only see disco
[10:14] <sil2100> ginggs: I'm releasing SRUs going per-series, so I'll get to it shortly ;)
[10:15] <ginggs> sil2100: ok, thanks :)
[10:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.39.2ubuntu0.2]
[10:23] <rbalint> sil2100, i also filed https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/britney/autopkgtest-bionic-hint/+merge/369390 to clear bionic's systemd
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: youtube-dl (disco-proposed/universe) [2019.01.17-1 => 2019.01.17-1.1~ubuntu19.04.1] (ubuntu-budgie, ubuntukylin)
[13:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: youtube-dl (bionic-proposed/universe) [2018.03.14-1 => 2018.03.14-1ubuntu18.04.1] (ubuntu-budgie, ubuntukylin)
[14:14] <rikmills> juliank: thanks. Kubuntu iso is now ok. lubuntu's should be ok later on that evidence
[15:09] <Eickmeyer> AAs: dpf-plugins (sponsored by teward) in NEW queue, awaiting review.
[15:10]  * teward drops a bag of flaming cat poo onto Eickmeyer for the unnecessary ping
[15:11]  * Eickmeyer teleports teward a gallon of coffee for his efforts
[15:11] <teward> Eickmeyer: have some patience, meetings're going on :P
[15:11] <Eickmeyer> teward: I see that, just wanted to get the message in here.
[15:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted systemd [source] (xenial-proposed) [229-4ubuntu21.22]
[16:11] <vorlon> tjaalton: are you aware that the SRUs for LP: #1824111 are blocked by LP: #1831498 not being verified for mesa?
[16:29] <tsimonq2> juliank: Thanks, would you be able to QA upload to Debian?
[16:30] <juliank> tsimonq2: I don't think there's a need for that right now, nobody is going to install that anyway
[16:31] <tsimonq2> juliank: ack
[16:31] <juliank> Like it's not for buster, it would go to experimental, and who's going to install that from there?
[16:31] <juliank> But I should attach the diff to the bug so I don't forget :)
[16:33] <tsimonq2> ok :)
[16:33] <tsimonq2> THanks
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mutter (disco-proposed/main) [3.32.1-2ubuntu1~19.04.1 => 3.32.2+git20190626-1ubuntu1~19.04.1] (desktop-core, desktop-extra)
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-edge [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-20.21~18.04.1] (kernel)
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-edge [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-20.21~18.04.1] (kernel)
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-edge [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-20.21~18.04.1] (kernel)
[18:00] <ddstreet> sil2100 i like the new 'autopkgtest failed, please investigate' automated bug comments, but it seems like it is getting added to the bug before all the autopkgtests finish, even though it says 'all autopkgtests...have finished running'
[18:00] <ddstreet> even the pending-sru page didn't have any failing autopkgtests listed when i first looked at it, and the proposed-migration page shows quite a few still running
[18:00] <ddstreet> just an fyi
[18:18] <Odd_Bloke> ddstreet: What about http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/?  (AFAIK the two things you referenced are generated on a cron schedule, so won't be current.)
[18:19] <ddstreet> Odd_Bloke not even there; one of the tests showing up as failing on the proposed_migration page doesn't show the failed test
[18:19] <ddstreet> or didnt yet when i checked
[18:20] <ddstreet> Odd_Bloke oh, and the various still-running tests do show as actually still running at a.u.c/running
[18:38] <sil2100> ddstreet: ah, yeah, good point! So the thing is that the autopkgtests have finished running, but the pending-sru page is only updated every n-hours or so
[18:38] <ddstreet> sil2100 er, well they actually haven't finished running
[18:39] <sil2100> ddstreet: oh, so it's a bug then, hm
[18:39] <sil2100> Will look into that, it shouldn't be the case
[18:39] <ddstreet> thnx
[18:47] <tjaalton> vorlon: yes, infinity promised to test it ;)
[18:47] <tjaalton> the other option would be to push 19.0.8
[18:48] <tjaalton> the fix for 1831498 has been upstream since 19.0.4 or so
[18:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: ec2-instance-connect (eoan-release/primary) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3]
[18:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: ec2-instance-connect (disco-proposed/primary) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~19.04.1]
[18:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: ec2-instance-connect (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~18.04.1]
[18:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: ec2-instance-connect (xenial-proposed/primary) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~16.04.1]
[18:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ec2-instance-connect [sync] (eoan-release) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3]
[19:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ec2-instance-connect [sync] (disco-proposed) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~19.04.1]
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ec2-instance-connect [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~18.04.1]
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ec2-instance-connect [sync] (xenial-proposed) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~16.04.1]
[19:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell (disco-proposed/main) [3.32.1-1ubuntu1~19.04.1 => 3.32.2-2ubuntu1~ubuntu19.04.1] (desktop-core, desktop-extra, mozilla)
[19:50] <Dmitrii-Sh> coreycb: verified https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libapache2-mod-auth-mellon/+bug/1820279 for rocky and stein
[19:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ec2-instance-connect [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[19:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ec2-instance-connect [amd64] (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[19:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ec2-instance-connect [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~19.04.1] (no packageset)
[20:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ec2-instance-connect [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~16.04.1]
[20:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ec2-instance-connect [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~18.04.1]
[20:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ec2-instance-connect [amd64] (disco-proposed) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3~19.04.1]
[20:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe-edge [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-20.21~18.04.1]
[20:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe-edge [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-20.21~18.04.1]
[20:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe-edge [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-20.21~18.04.1]
[20:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ec2-instance-connect [amd64] (eoan-release/universe) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[20:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ec2-instance-connect [amd64] (eoan-release) [1.1.9-0ubuntu3]
[20:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell (bionic-proposed/main) [3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.1 => 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.2] (desktop-extra, mozilla, ubuntu-desktop)
[20:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-25.26~18.04.1] (kernel)
[20:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-25.26~18.04.1] (kernel)
[21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.18.0-25.26~18.04.1]
[21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [4.18.0-25.26~18.04.1]


[04:24] <Andre_Gondim> is it safe to use lubuntu maverick beta version?
[07:53] <slooksterpsv> hello everyone; how is everyon doing tonight?
[08:36] <slooksterpsv> hi
[12:48] <Timo_> hey szczur!
[12:48] <szczur> hi Timo_
[12:48] <Timo_> how are you doing?:)
[12:49] <szczur> good :)
[15:54] <NeedHelp> hello everybody
[15:55] <NeedHelp> hello everybody
[15:55] <hosoka> hello everybody
[15:55] <NeedHelp> hi
[15:55] <hosoka> is er a way to upgrade lubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 ?
[15:56] <NeedHelp> can't help you hosoka, Im very new
[15:57] <hosoka> no worries
[15:57] <NeedHelp> is there someone else there pleeeeeease
[15:57] <NeedHelp> :)
[15:57] <hosoka> currently I am running 10.04 lubuntu
[15:58] <hosoka> and testing the 10.10  and I saw some differences.
[15:58] <hosoka> I do not wanna move all the things on the pc
[15:58] <hosoka> I do not that ubuntu allows you to upgrade with alt+F2
[15:59] <NeedHelp> no idea, sorry, hey hosoka, I'm searching for a way to install lubuntu without running it
[15:59] <NeedHelp> Im mean loading the live cd
[16:00] <NeedHelp> any idea?
[16:00] <Tir_Eoghan> check out phillw.net I think he covers both those issues
[16:00] <NeedHelp> ok I will
[16:01] <Tir_Eoghan> of course I'm still learning the basics myself, so I haven't tried any of more complex stuff
[16:01] <hosoka> maybe Tir_Eoghan knows the answer on my question ?
[16:01] <hosoka> the only way i know is loading from the cd
[16:01] <Tir_Eoghan> I'm afraid I don't know it, although if theres a way I'm sure it's on that website
[16:02] <Tir_Eoghan> I'm debating upgrading myself
[16:03] <Tir_Eoghan> of course, I'm torn between upgrading and destroying my os purposely (by installing flash) to test if online video will work on this puter.
[16:03] <NeedHelp> ok Tir_Eoghan but I just can't load it on my old computer (only 128MB of RAM) and honestly on a faster computer I'd install some distro else!!!
[16:04] <Tir_Eoghan> let me see if I can find the link on his forum I saw at one point
[16:04] <bioterror> !upgrade
[16:05] <Tir_Eoghan> ah, there we go thanks bioterror
[16:05] <bioterror> np
[16:05] <hosoka> ubot5: I have noticed that link, but that will install ubuntu only when only having lubuntu now.
[16:07] <NeedHelp> lol
[16:07] <hosoka> no worries. As I tried myself to. We all are to learn :-)
[16:07] <hosoka> but I like to work with lubuntu
[16:07] <hosoka> very light it is.
[16:07] <NeedHelp> lol
[16:07] <Tir_Eoghan> NeedHelp, I think this answeres your question http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=85
[16:08] <hosoka> let me check
[16:08] <NeedHelp> ok, see and tell you, thanks
[16:09] <Tir_Eoghan> NeedHelp, or this one rather https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal%20Install%20and%2064%20Bit
[16:11] <NeedHelp> oh no Tir_Eoghan I know that method (the first) but ... with no connection if possible!!! I already downloaded the iso
[16:11] <Tir_Eoghan> hosoka, yeah, lubuntu is the best.. first time I tried to run it, it ran poorly (not sure why) but next time I booted in it ran like a dream
[16:12] <hosoka> yes
[16:12] <NeedHelp> there's an option on the boot screen of Ubuntu so why not LUbuntu?!!!
[16:12] <hosoka> I wanna upgrade to 10.10 but there are no guidance how to
[16:12] <Tir_Eoghan> NeedHelp, thats beyond my knowledge, I'm sure one of the more experienced users will clear that up shortly though if you stick around
[16:13] <NeedHelp> ok Tir_Eoghan thanks a lot
[16:16] <NeedHelp> bye all
[16:16] <hosoka> bye now
[16:17] <nothingspecial> NeedHelp: Install a minimal ubuntu iso then once that is up and running install lubuntu-desktop. I`t will be a lot easier with a wired connection.
[16:18] <Tir_Eoghan> nothingspecial, he left just a moment too soon
[16:19] <nothingspecial> Tir_Eoghan: That always happens
[16:20] <Tir_Eoghan> nothingspecial, must get kind of frustrating hehe
[16:20] <nothingspecial> Tir_Eoghan: he he
[16:22] <Tir_Eoghan> so heres a random foolish somewhat hypothetical question. Is there any way to properly secure an install of flash in this os? or am I asking for crippled os at that point (security wise)?
[22:23] <mmaksimov> phillw, are you here?
[22:24] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[22:24] <mmaksimov> kosaidpo, hello
[22:24] <kosaidpo> im tryin to make woek this modem 3g alcatel x080S
[22:24] <kosaidpo> mmaksimov: hello ; 0
[22:25] <kosaidpo> any idea how
[22:26] <mmaksimov> kosaidpo, sorry, no experience with modems
[22:26] <kosaidpo> mmaksimov: : )
[22:26] <kosaidpo> im goni crazu with this its rcognized tho already
[22:26] <kosaidpo> but idkhow to use it
[23:49] <phillw> mmaksimov: I'm lurking
[23:54] <mmaksimov> phillw, if you still need to upload the beta2 iso I can do that -- provided you give me instructions
[23:55] <mmaksimov> (better via email since I'm disconnecting at the moment)
[23:55] <phillw> mmaksimov: the beta2 is only on torrent atm, as the final is dues out in next few days, I'm going to wait until julien has it ready.


[00:00] <ahoneycutt> belkinsa: jose says the best is... Tue,Wed,Thu 3PM UTC-4
[00:00] <ahoneycutt> somewhere around there
[00:00] <belkinsa> Alright, so that will be 7 PM EST.
[00:01] <belkinsa> UCT*
[00:01] <ahoneycutt> trying to get the best time to see if valorie can come as well
[00:01] <belkinsa> UTC**
[00:02] <belkinsa> So, 1900 UTC.
[00:03] <belkinsa> DOne, it will be on Wed June 13 at 1700 UTC
[00:03] <belkinsa> 1900*
[00:04] <ahoneycutt> Nice thanks belkinsa !
[00:04] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[00:04] <belkinsa> Wed's: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/2014-06-11/
[16:20] <belkinsa> balloons and pleia2, ping re:UOS and favours of Ubuntu
[16:20] <balloons> belkinsa, howdy
[16:21] <belkinsa> phillw said that you e-mailed e-mail about the UOS and you wanting the favours to say hu
[16:21] <belkinsa> hi*
[16:22] <belkinsa> [12:20] <phillw> Hi,
[16:22] <belkinsa> [12:20] <phillw> a couple of cycles ago I and kubuntu did a 30 minute session of ubuntu beginners. Whilst I'm happy to do another session with 'what, who and where' lubuntu is, is there a call for it? IMHO, each of the flavours should make time to say why they exist and how we all work together.
[16:22] <belkinsa> [12:20] <phillw> Regards,
[16:22] <belkinsa> [12:20] <phillw> Phill.
[16:22] <belkinsa> [12:20] <phillw> Phil, I think this is an excellent idea. I believe Val was looking at sending something to all the flavors to have a little intro to each flavor and talk a bit about it. I think it's perfect. Let me know if you have trouble registering the session.
[16:22] <phillw> yikes,,, present :) auto-join will be the death of me :D
[16:26] <balloons> belkinsa, yep this is correct. I think it would be wonderful to see flavors give a session about themselves as a way to introduce them to new community folks
[16:26] <belkinsa> I have an idea!
[16:26] <belkinsa> Ubuntu Favors panel.
[16:27] <belkinsa> One rep from each favour will talk about the favour and the various teams/projects of that favor.
[16:27] <belkinsa> Of course via Hangouts.
[16:28] <belkinsa> Or could be called the Favours of Ubuntu Panel.
[16:29] <belkinsa> Though I think this panel would fit under Users more so than Community.
[16:29] <belkinsa> Wait, no, nevermind.  It's community.  Just read your blog post, balloons
[16:32] <balloons> belkinsa, a flavors panel rather than individual sessions? You would just need some flavors folks to agree. Anything that helped spread the information of the flavors and what they are about etc, I would consider a good thing
[16:33] <belkinsa> Alright, do you have the contacts to the leads of each favour including Ubuntu?
[16:33] <belkinsa> But you are right about a panel in my idea.
[16:34] <belkinsa> Now, I think it would be better if it was one panel per favour that focus on the favour and it's team/projects.
[16:49] <phillw> belkinsa: balloons should have the list of release managers on his wiki list
[16:49] <belkinsa> phillw, thanks.
[16:50] <phillw> I'm no longer a RM for lubuntu, but I'll do the 30 min session for lubuntu. julien is up to his eyeballs as we have two releases to get out! 14.10 (normal) and 14.10 (LXQt)
[16:51] <phillw> as you know, silverlion is also real busy getting comms back up and running.
[16:52] <balloons> belkinsa, some of those leads have changed for this cycle
[16:52] <balloons> I think it might be best to ask via the mailing list
[16:53] <phillw> balloons: get Val to give me a dig in the ribs as to if this is going to happen... I'm usually about :)
[16:53] <belkinsa> Alright.
[16:55] <balloons> phillw, well here's me digging! Get the session proposed, do it now :-)
[16:55] <balloons> phillw, http://uds.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/propose-a-session/
[16:55] <belkinsa> On it, balloons.
[16:56] <phillw> balloons: this is me following kubuntu... http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/10/24/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t16:30
[16:57] <phillw> belkinsa:  / balloons So, it is not too hard for the teams to quickly get an idea of what we did back then. I got some follow up from people.
[16:58] <phillw> Liz dug those out, my google-fu failed me :(
[16:58] <belkinsa> So we have Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu?
[16:58] <phillw> Ubuntu-Studion, Kylin Ubuntu-Gnome....
[16:59] <balloons> belkinsa, there's also ubuntu gnome, mythbuntu, studio and kylin
[16:59] <balloons> maybe another one I missed off the top :-)
[16:59] <balloons> but you hit the big ones
[16:59] <phillw> belkinsa: look on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/315/builds
[17:00] <belkinsa> Thanks
[17:00] <phillw> that should list all of the family :) And I see no reason not to ask a cloud person to say hello
[17:03] <belkinsa> I think having a panel/track for all of them will be too much and I think there is not enough room too.
[17:03] <phillw> belkinsa: I was a driver for the QA classroom sessions... it is a thankless task, but well worth the effort..... just nag people until they submit :D
[17:04] <belkinsa> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1406/review/
[17:04] <belkinsa> I have some of them made alreadt
[17:07] <belkinsa> balloons, what list should i make the call in?
[17:07] <phillw> belkinsa: simply tell me what channel and when :)
[17:07] <belkinsa> Alright.
[17:07] <balloons> belkinsa, ahh i see you placed them all in community
[17:08] <belkinsa> Because I think they more community based than Users based.
[17:08] <balloons> belkinsa, I believe there is a flavors leads list
[17:08] <balloons> belkinsa, otherwise the -devel list for the flavor
[17:08] <belkinsa> Thanks, on it!
[17:56] <belkinsa> balloons, done.
[18:04] <balloons> belkinsa, excellent. I hope the flavors show up and represent :-)
[18:04] <belkinsa> Is okay if I post this call on my blog?
[18:05] <belkinsa> And fun at the Q&A


[00:03] <bobo123> kosaidpo: it didn't work with the startprogram-dialogbox in the System-settings menu?
[00:04] <kosaidpo> bobo123: its ok im gettin it now
[00:04] <kosaidpo> tnx
[00:05] <bobo123> ok
[00:05] <kosaidpo> : D
[01:11] <Tempus_Fugit> does anyone know if there is a specific channel for bash and shell commands
[01:11] <Tempus_Fugit> ok i mean terminal and shell commands ...my bad
[01:22] <aveilleux> Tempu-- DANGIT
[03:23] <ClassicWizzard> hello??
[03:23] <stlsaint> ClassicWizzard: hello
[03:24] <ClassicWizzard> oh yah!  the pidgeon has taken flight
[03:24] <ClassicWizzard> I have no clue what I am doing
[03:25] <stlsaint> ClassicWizzard: thats cool..you made it here so thats a good start
[03:25] <ClassicWizzard> not sure how i got here... didn't enter half the passwords .... feel a bit clueless
[03:26] <ClassicWizzard> I am running it under windows...
[03:26] <ClassicWizzard> can I ask ubuntu questions here??
[03:26] <stlsaint> ClassicWizzard: heck yea man fire away
[03:27] <ClassicWizzard> well, I have V8 installed... but I had to reinstall windows XP.  It blew away the grub thing.  I gave up on linux for a while but want to go back at it again.  I made the V10 ISO but I am not sure how to install it over the V8.  I can't boot to the V8 because of the XP install.
[03:28] <zkriesse> just stick the disk in
[03:28] <zkriesse> Erase the partition if you don't want to keep anything
[03:28] <zkriesse> but thats all I can say
[03:28] <zkriesse> must eat dinner
[03:28] <zkriesse> HUNGRY!
[03:29] <ClassicWizzard> i did, it gives me 3 options: erase the whole disk... install alongside V8 and XP, and custom.  I tried custom but it gives me a "root" error/not identified.. or soemthing
[03:30] <ClassicWizzard> I have 4 linux partitions medium one, real small one, ext3 (small) and ext4
[03:30] <ClassicWizzard> the ext4 is large
[03:31] <ClassicWizzard> the first one is the boot one but it is like the CD doesn't recognize the /root
[03:33] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: /root is the user, root's home directory... Do you mean the CD isn't recognizing the partition's root directory?
[03:34] <ClassicWizzard> i think so... i went to custom... saw the partitions... I don't need to change them... so I said "forward" and it gave me the error.
[03:34] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: What are you trying to do, install Ubuntu?
[03:34] <ClassicWizzard> yes, V10 over an existing V8
[03:35] <aveilleux> I assume you mean 10.04 over 8.04
[03:35] <ClassicWizzard> yes, both are LTS versions
[03:35] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: So you're updating? Hm. What error are you being given?
[03:37] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: No need to PM me. So you're doing a clean install?
[03:37] <ClassicWizzard> sorry, don't know this tool at all
[03:38] <haywire> ClassicWizzard, If you don't care about any files in your old version, it might be just as simple to run Gparted, and delete the partition where 8.04 is currently, and re-create it.  The good news is that since Windoze(r) was installed first, it will not bulldoze over your Grub this time..
[03:38] <ClassicWizzard> well, yah, i could do a clean install
[03:38] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: So, can you run it by me again? You installed Windows, and now you're trying to install 10.04 over it, or..?
[03:39] <ClassicWizzard> yah, over v8
[03:39] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: So, no. You have 8.04 installed on one partition, and Xp installed on another. Now you're trying to install 10.04 over the 8.04, but leave XP alone?
[03:40] <ClassicWizzard> that is correct
[03:40] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: So, what error are you being given again? The exact wording (or as close as you can), please
[03:41] <ClassicWizzard> I didn't re-partition, since I didn't need to... when I hit the "forward" button it said it couldn't find the root directory or something.
[03:41] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: You have to select one partition for use as the root directory.
[03:42] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: You can't just hit "next", you have to select at least one partition
[03:42] <ClassicWizzard> well, i want to use the V8 one... and I couldn't find where I selected it
[03:42] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: Can you rephrase that please?
[03:42] <ClassicWizzard> in fact the reformat boxes were greyed out
[03:43] <ClassicWizzard> well, version 8 has the / directory
[03:43] <ClassicWizzard> I want version 10 to use the same one
[03:43] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: Well, coming from a different perspective
[03:44] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: Have you tried installing GRUB onto the drive, then booting into 8.04 and upgrading?
[03:44] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: You can do a dist-upgrade
[03:44] <ClassicWizzard> I was thinking about that.... but after reading the grub fix documentation I decided that I would never get that right
[03:45] <ClassicWizzard> it starts with running V10 then trying to figure out what version of grub I used before
[03:45] <ClassicWizzard> it was pretty complicated
[03:45] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: It's not hard, just boot into the LiveCD and then run sudo grub-install /dev/<name of hard drive>
[03:46] <ClassicWizzard> you have to know the drive partition number and some other stuff
[03:46] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: Well, what partition is Ubuntu installed onto? /dev/sda1,2,3?
[03:47] <ClassicWizzard> it doesn't say... it is in the second logical partition
[03:47] <ClassicWizzard> I have an NTFS (XP) and then the rest is linux
[03:48] <ClassicWizzard> I have the root (125Gig) a real small partition (forget what that is for) .ext3 which is small, then a ext4 for files
[03:48] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: Um, can you look at the drive in GParted? It should tell you what filesystem is is, as well as the partition number.
[03:48] <ClassicWizzard> gparted runs in windows?
[03:48] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: No, it's on the LiveCD.
[03:48] <ClassicWizzard> I gave up on the live cd when I couldnt get the IRC chat client to work
[03:49] <ClassicWizzard> it wanted to use somethign like mimibit or something
[03:49] <ClassicWizzard> it got on but it was like I was the only person on
[03:49] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: Are you sure you entered the room information correctly? Any misspelling would result in an empty room.
[03:50] <haywire> ClassicWizzard, check out the video by NixiePixel over on Youtube.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBBl6HvdpM&p=7EF60DF0E207125C&playnext=1&index=2     You might be able to reinstall GRUB and get your 8.04 back without deleting anything.
[03:51] <ClassicWizzard> I clicked on it from the ubuntu web site... it asks for an application, offers mimibits (or something like that) .. freenode fails the first time then the second time you are in ghost town
[03:52] <ClassicWizzard> ok, i'll watch it then be back after... thanks
[03:52] <haywire> ClassicWizzard, I ran into the same problem - it only happens when Windows is installed AFTER linux.  It takes over the MBR.  If windows is there first, and you resize and create a partition for linux, etc. - Grub works properly, but there is a way to regain GRUB's control over the MBR - see the vid...
[03:53] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: I find text guides are better ;-) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:54] <haywire> aveilleux, I agree... I am a newbie myself, and if there is a 50/50 chance of something going wrong, guess which end of it I usually end up on ;-)
[03:54] <aveilleux> haywire: There's a 99% chance anything you need to know is covered in the Ubuntu community docs
[03:55] <ClassicWizzard> I will backup my XP then try to re-grub my version 8
[03:55] <ClassicWizzard> the nixie~chick has inspired me
[03:56] <haywire> I am finding that out... Linux support = great, and growing :-)  Linux OS - Very Stable and Desirable... Linux apps.  Very acceptable (to me)... Linux supported hardware :-(
[03:56] <ClassicWizzard> thanks for the help
[03:56] <haywire> NixiePixel is not hard to look at either, and SMART!
[03:56] <ClassicWizzard> yah
[03:56] <ClassicWizzard> lol
[03:57] <ClassicWizzard> well, ubuntu for gamers might not be the trick but for basic computer users it is good and I really want to conquer it better the second time
[03:59] <aveilleux> ClassicWizzard: Well hey, Source games work fine through WINE, and that's all I care about really
[04:00] <ClassicWizzard> I get excited about linux but then when I get stuck I feel stupid compared to windows.... it is just something I need to conquer
[04:00] <haywire> I have one machine with an unsupported video card (yuck) and an HP All in One 5610xi printer that is on a windows machine I have been unable to print to from any linux machine...   Also, Magicjack is Yet unsupported natively in linux, even though their website promised 1st quarter 2010 support... Hmmm I wonder when their 1st quarter starts, 'cause I am tired of rebooting my windoze machine runnin
[04:00] <haywire> g the MJ.
[04:01] <aveilleux> haywire: 1st quarter fiscally is June
[04:02] <haywire> They're a little behind...if ever...I'm anxiously awaiting.  If more hdwe were supported, I'd literally pull the plug on windoze.
[04:02] <aveilleux> haywire: An HP printer not working on LUbuntu? That's really weird
[04:02] <aveilleux> s/LUbuntu/Ubuntu
[04:03] <aveilleux> haywire: Have you seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[04:03] <haywire> Yeah... I think (but haven't taken the time to prove) it would work fine hooked to the linux box locally, but is unable to use the printshare from my Vista machine.
[04:03] <aveilleux> haywire: Have you set up printer shating in Samba?
[04:04] <haywire> All the doc's say the HPLIP printing package works fine on this as a local printer, but share printing is not supported.  I suspect it may even be more of a Vista issue than a print driver issue, 'cause the thing came with a seperate install disk for Vista.
[04:04] <aveilleux> haywire Ohhhh yeah, I remember printer sharing with Windows is a HUGE hassle
[04:05] <aveilleux> haywure: Er, I mean, shared printers with HP
[04:05] <haywire> Yes, print share easily confirms the communication, wakes up the printer then everything hangs, and I have to kill the spooler on the vista machine
[04:06] <aveilleux> haywire: I have an HP printer as well; it's the reason I don't use Windows for printing anymore
[04:06] <haywire> Funny thing is, my XP os on this same machine is o.k., and wife's Laptop can share it (Vista) too (Sometimes :-) -  too bad we can't get a linux driver able to do the same...
[04:07] <aveilleux> haywire: HP likes Windows more :-P
[04:08] <haywire> Yeah, at least they make the effort to support linux, but their loyalties go where the royalties are...ryme intended...
[04:10] <haywire> I impressed some friends today at work with Puppy... had a Dell laptop ughhh... i know... with it's 2nd bad hard drive in 4 months...booted up Puppy, pulled out the CD and was on the web with NO drives in the machine...had 'em all scratchin' thier heads ;-)
[04:15] <kerdal_> what do i need to put videos on my ipod using rhythmbox or sojmething else?
[04:15] <aveilleux> kerdal_: What model iPod?
[04:18] <kerdal_> 80g hold on not the touch one
[04:19] <aveilleux> kerdal_: The generation is very important in determining compatibility with Linux
[04:19] <kerdal_> let me see what it says.
[04:20] <seidos> kerdal_, was it formatted in a windows machine?
[04:20] <seidos> kerdal_, i think we have the same ipod.  i have an 80GB, i think it's a 5th gen
[04:20] <kerdal_> yes, a very long time ago. and then stop using it
[04:21] <seidos> kerdal_, well, it's good because ubuntu can't format it.
[04:21] <aveilleux> seidos: There are several generations of 80GB iPods :-P
[04:21] <seidos> at least not presently
[04:21] <seidos> aveilleux, and ubuntu probably can't format any of them \o/
[04:21] <seidos> aveilleux, how many?
[04:22] <aveilleux> seidos: Actually, Ubuntu can handle almost all of them. And... Three? Four? More than one, I know that much
[04:22] <seidos> aveilleux, what do you mean by "handle" do you mean "format"?
[04:22] <kerdal_> let me check kk
[04:22] <aveilleux> seidos: No, not at all. I mean manage the media. Songs, videos, etc
[04:22] <kerdal_> sorry didn't know I would need to know.
[04:23] <seidos> kerdal_, knowing is good
[04:30] <kerdal_> fifth gen classic
[04:31] <nhandler> kerdal_: Rhythmbox will work for Music. gtkpod will handle music+videos. Banshee either supports it (or the new version that comes out in < 24 hours will)
[04:32] <kerdal_> okay, i will take a look as fiddle around with it. now to update my software, an hopefully it doesn't wipe out my ipod.
[04:34] <kerdal_> i have two computers, one that runs windows (which I don't like to much) and UB for this one.
[04:34] <kerdal_> thank you very much have a good night.
[05:51] <seidos> how do i import music from my ipod to the filesystem?
[12:14] <duanedesign> good morning all
[12:15] <hobgoblin> o/
[13:18] <augustk> With the Language Support application I have chosen English for menus and windows and Swedish for numbers, dates and currency amounts, still Firefox and Thunderbird use Swedish menus. any clues?
[13:22] <duanedesign> hello augustk
[13:23] <augustk> hi duane
[13:25] <duanedesign> augustk: i am no master of locale settings, I just started using them recently
[13:25] <duanedesign> do you have the package:   mozilla-firefox-locale-sv-se
[13:25] <duanedesign> oh i see, you have the opposite problem.
[13:26] <duanedesign> It is showing Swedish properly
[13:26] <geirha> augustk: Run the following in a terminal:   echo "LANGUAGE=$LANGUAGE"; echo "LANG=$LANG"
[13:28] <augustk> $ locale
[13:28] <augustk> LANG=sv_SE.utf8
[13:28] <augustk> LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
[13:28] <augustk> LC_CTYPE="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_NUMERIC="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_TIME="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_COLLATE="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_MONETARY="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_MESSAGES="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_PAPER="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_NAME="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_ADDRESS="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_TELEPHONE="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:28] <augustk> LC_MEASUREMENT="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:29] <augustk> LC_IDENTIFICATION="sv_SE.utf8"
[13:29] <augustk> LC_ALL=
[13:29] <Puck`> augustk: http://paste.ubuntu.com please pate it there and give us the link
[13:29] <geirha> Right, forgot that locale also outputs those two variables :)
[13:30] <geirha> LC_MESSAGES is set to swedish. Try (with firefox closed):  LC_MESSAGE=en_GB.utf8 firefox
[13:30] <augustk> i think the language selector should set LC_MESSAGES to english as well
[13:31] <geirha> I think it should too.
[13:32] <augustk> yes, this works: LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.utf8 firefox
[13:33] <augustk> on the other hand gedit e.g. uses english menus
[13:33] <augustk> seems like some applications are looking at LANGUAGE and others at LC_MESSAGES
[13:35] <augustk> i have actually reported this "bug" in launchpad (if it is a bug that is)
[13:40] <augustk> ok, thanks geirha and duane for your help so far
[14:08] <sebsebseb> Hi
[15:32] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[15:32] <duanedesign> hello kosaidpo
[15:32] <kosaidpo> is ther an officiel source so ican get the latest info developement aqnd stuff
[15:33] <kosaidpo> and all featured apps
[15:33] <kosaidpo> you kno
[15:33] <kosaidpo> duanedesign: any idea from where
[15:34] <kosaidpo> i saw ubunutu planet and found nethin
[15:34] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: you are interested in what is coming up in Maverick?
[15:34] <kosaidpo> yeh
[15:35] <duanedesign> each team creates its own blueprints
[15:36] <duanedesign> most of the roadmap for the next release cycle is discussed and created at UDS
[15:37] <duanedesign> all the blueprints from UDS-M can be found at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-m
[15:39] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: also you can see some of the sessions and keynote speechs from UDS-M at http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc
[15:40] <duanedesign> if you are just looking for more general news, in addtion to Planet Ubuntu, their is the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/
[15:50] <kosaidpo> hello
[15:51] <kosaidpo> duanedesign: im back the electricity  was gone
[15:53] <kosaidpo> can you anyone  tell me from where ican get all the new info of development of maverick and featured apps
[15:53] <kosaidpo> tnx
[15:54] <duanedesign> hello kosaidpo
[15:54] <duanedesign> most of the roadmap for the next release cycle is discussed and created at UDS
[15:55] <duanedesign> all the blueprints from UDS-M can be found at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-m
[15:55] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: also you can see some of the sessions and keynote speechs from UDS-M at http://ubuntudevelopers.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc
[15:55] <duanedesign> if you are just looking for more general news, in addtion to Planet Ubuntu, their is the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/
[15:55] <kosaidpo> ok
[15:55] <kosaidpo> tnx
[15:57] <kosaidpo> duanedesign: how can i subscrib to lauchpad
[15:57] <kosaidpo> i got an  account there
[16:02] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: If there is a particular bluprint or bug you are interested in you can subscribe to it by going to the page for that item and their should be a link in the top right "Subscribe"
[16:04] <kosaidpo> uhm
[16:04] <kosaidpo> im new to this
[16:04] <kosaidpo> n packages names means nethin to me
[16:04] <kosaidpo>  kno
[16:05] <kosaidpo> u kno
[16:05] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: you only need the package name if you are submitting a bug report
[16:05] <kosaidpo> well me
[16:06] <kosaidpo> iwanna feed up a blog with news of ubunhtu
[16:06] <kosaidpo> u see now ?
[16:06] <kosaidpo> so im lookin for some officiel source
[16:06] <kosaidpo> u got me
[16:06] <duanedesign> ok
[16:07] <kosaidpo> so anyidee : d
[16:08] <duanedesign> Canonical Voices is an aggregate of the Ubuntu Developers who have blogs
[16:08] <duanedesign> http://voices.canonical.com/
[16:08] <duanedesign> PLanet Ubuntu is good for news on Ubuntu as well. http://planet.ubuntu.com/
[16:09] <kosaidpo> ok
[16:09] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: also the Fridge
[16:09] <kosaidpo> yeh but thersnethin
[16:09] <kosaidpo> in planet ubuntu
[16:09] <bjfs> I've been using Ubuntu for years, but can't figure the reason why the kernel gets upgraded with a very brief version about updating the ABI
[16:09] <duanedesign> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[16:10] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: PLanet Ubuntu is all Ubuntu Member blog posts
[16:12] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: if you are looking for news from Canonical and not from the community Canonical Voices and the Canonical Blog are good http://blog.canonical.com/
[16:12] <kosaidpo> ok
[16:12] <kosaidpo> tnx
[16:12] <kosaidpo> im still tryin
[16:12] <kosaidpo> to see how
[17:40] <windows> hi
[17:42] <Guest17003> do anyone has an experience with asus 1201N?
[17:48] <philinux> Looks ok http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/22/asus-1201-netbook-review
[17:49] <philinux> plenty of reviews out there
[18:29] <help> need help installing linux
[18:29] <Guest8534> can someone help me>?
[19:13] <harrisonk> Guest8534: what is the problem?
[19:42] <harrisonk> where would be a good guide for using the ubuntu wiki?
[19:45] <harrisonk> anyone here?
[19:51] <hobgoblin> harrisonk: in what respect?
[19:52] <philinux> Hi all, Ok, portrait photo's in nautilus get turned the right way up, is there a way to not do this
[19:53] <harrisonk> creating pages and the such
[19:53] <hobgoblin> harrisonk: not sure what information you had previously - been here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[19:54] <hobgoblin> but if it just a page here and there I think just produce them - it is a community affair after all
[19:54] <harrisonk> yes I have been there.
[19:54] <hobgoblin> really depends how deep you want to go I would say
[19:55] <harrisonk> what I want to do is create my own wiki page.
[19:55] <hobgoblin> oic
[19:55] <hobgoblin> then - just produce it
[19:56] <harrisonk> follow this motto I guess: try and if it works great, if it doesn't then try again.
[19:56] <hobgoblin> if you have an openid - eg launchpad account - login - go to the page you want - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/harrisonk for instance - it will tell you it does not exist and ask if you want to create one
[19:57] <hobgoblin> then away you go
[19:57] <harrisonk> okay
[19:57] <hobgoblin> you could use someone elses as a template and then edit it
[19:58] <hobgoblin> basically open someone else's - while logged in - then pretend to edit - copy it then edit yours and paste it
[19:58] <hobgoblin> it's how I started mine off
[19:58] <harrisonk> where is yours?
[19:59] <hobgoblin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forestpiskie
[20:00] <hobgoblin> copy it if you wish, then add stuff etc
[20:00] <hobgoblin> the world is your oyster as they say :)
[20:00] <hobgoblin> evening MichealH
[20:00] <MichealH> Evening hobgoblin
[20:04] <hobgoblin> harrisonk: obviously don't make any changes to anyone else's wiki :D
[20:47] <bleytrin> Hi, I was fixing my ubuntu netbook dual boot partions for alignment, and somehow lost ability to automount usb & fixed disks.need some guidance to repair.
[20:57] <suprengr> to whoever asked: flash to mprg... found on a google search>  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/convert-flv-google-videos-to-mpg-using-ffmpeg.html
[20:57] <suprengr> *mpeg
[21:48] <satyajeet> hi
[21:48] <aveilleux> hello satyajeet
[21:48] <satyajeet> hi aveilleux
[21:49] <satyajeet> well lucid runs slow on my computer... so i
[21:49] <satyajeet> installed ubuntu server 10.04 64 bit..
[21:49] <zkriesse> satyajeet: need help?
[21:49] <aveilleux> !ask |satyajeet
[21:49] <ubot2> satyajeet: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[21:49] <satyajeet> and then
[21:49] <satyajeet> i did sudo apt-get install lxde
[21:49] <satyajeet> cuz i knew lxde was lightweight
[21:50] <satyajeet> i dint want gnome
[21:50] <satyajeet> so on my next reboot the computer runs fine
[21:50] <satyajeet> lxde starts automatically.
[21:50] <satyajeet> but
[21:50] <satyajeet> sometimes when i am seeing a movie or something like that in vlc
[21:51] <aveilleux> satyajeet: Can you try typing your problem all on one line? It makes it easier to follow
[21:51] <satyajeet> aveilleux,  it'll be a one big line
[21:51] <satyajeet> aveilleux,  but i willll
[21:56] <satyajeet> so sometimes when i see  a movie or something like that it unpredictably removes the default panel, also only the current windows that are open stay responsive, i cannot open anything else or start any other thing, if i close the responsive active windows i cannot start them again, and just after i have closed all my active still resposive (good) windows the whole desktop reverts to the openbox window manager (the right click menu and all..) ,
[21:56] <satyajeet>  but even after that i cannot start any application,
[21:57] <satyajeet> i also cannot reboot/shut down
[21:57] <satyajeet> i am forced to do a hard reboot
[21:58] <satyajeet> this has been observed only while running vlc media player,
[21:58] <satyajeet> that too like after an hour of watching video
[21:59] <satyajeet> sometimes less sometimes more..
[22:03] <stlsaint> way to go aveilleux scare off the op
[22:03] <aveilleux> :(
[22:04] <stlsaint> i dont suggest using lxde as package install....go with lubuntu :D
[22:06] <aveilleux> That just sounded... not a great setup
[22:06] <aveilleux> s/sounded/sounded\ like
[22:15] <stlsaint> i use different DE's also but its all in how you config :D
[22:16] <aveilleux> stlsaint: I use XDM for my manager... it's so much easier to configure non-GNOME or -KDE environments to use XDM
[22:22] <stlsaint> niffty
[23:19] <Geke> hello people
[23:20] <Geke> do you actually reply to messages?
[23:21] <Geke> Ok...I have a problem creating an Ubuntu USB...while creating the USB I get an error message saying that filesystem.squashfs is broken...do I have to download Ubuntu AGAIN?? or what can I do?
[23:32] <geirha> 10 minutes is pacient
[23:33] <geirha> but just a minute more and I could've replied ...
[23:34] <geirha> *patient
[23:37] <duanedesign> hello geirha
[23:39] <geirha> Howdy :)


[02:26] <sgo11> darkxst, hi, are you there? for bug #1288572, I followed your instruction: "export DISPLAY=:0" "xrandr -q" returns "No protocol specified Can't open display :0".
[02:34] <sgo11> I tried "export XAUTHORITY=/home/<user>/.Xauthority", it still gives me the same error output.
[02:35] <sgo11> where .Xauthority is just an empty file.
[02:50] <darkxst> hi sgo11
[02:50] <sgo11> darkxst, hi
[02:51] <darkxst> is the X server still running? or does it get killed when gdm fails?
[02:51] <darkxst> (ps ax | grep X)
[02:52] <sgo11> darkxst, 1396 tty7     Ss+    0:00 /usr/bin/X :0 -background none -verbose -logverbose 7 -core -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-PQ8hDg/database -seat seat0 -nolisten tcp vt7
[02:54] <darkxst> ok maybe because its the gdm X, it has special persmissions
[02:54] <darkxst> so start a new one
[02:54] <darkxst> startx metacity
[02:54] <darkxst> (make sure metacity is installed)
[02:55] <darkxst> then try with export DISPLAY=:1
[03:06] <sgo11> darkxst, just saw your message. installing metacity.
[03:06] <sgo11> darkxst, run it in ssh client? got error: "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[03:09] <darkxst> sgo11, you may need to run startx from a VT
[03:10] <darkxst> the rest will work from ssh
[08:02] <PatBateman> morning
[08:03] <PatBateman> i want to ask about ug , so it uses gnome by default and not unity right?
[08:11] <Noskcaj> PatBateman, yep
[13:36] <sgo11> anyone have any ideas how to fix bug #1284856 ?
[19:16] <gnoutchd> Hello all, I've got an (Ubuntu) gnome-shell session here where keyboard and mouse input handling seems to have gotten wedged.
[19:17] <gnoutchd> I've seen this particular problem once or twice before, but I don't know what triggers it.
[19:18] <gnoutchd> In the past, I've been able to clear it up by restarting gnome-shell, but I'm wondering if there's any debugging I should do now before restarting, esp, since this problem rarely occurs.
[19:19] <gnoutchd> The main trouble seems to be that applications aren't getting any mouse or keyboard input events.
[19:20] <gnoutchd> I can confirm this by SSHing in and running xev (with appropriate DISPLAY, etc).  The xev window shows up (so the graphics system seems to be working still), but it reports no mouse or keyboard events.
[19:22] <gnoutchd> Gnome-shell itself still seems to be partially responsive to mouse input, as it responds appropriately to my clicking on the clock or any of the other indicators on the top panel.
[19:22] <gnoutchd> But I am unable to interact with anything else.
[19:23] <gnoutchd> It sorta feels like gnome-shell has taken an X11 input grab and then forgot to let go. (I haven't confirmed that though.)
[19:26] <gnoutchd> I've managed to attach gdb to the affected gnome-shell instance and I was able to get backtraces, but they don't look promising at all (7 threads all waiting in poll(), except for two threads were mozjs is waiting in pthread_cond_wait()).
[19:26] <gnoutchd> And running 'call gjs_dumpstack ()' doesn't produce any output at all.
[19:28] <gnoutchd> BTW this is with the stock gnome-shell shipped in Ubuntu 13.10 (gnome-shell --version says  "3.8.4").
[19:29] <gnoutchd> I can wait for another 1-2 hours or so before I'll have to restart (I will need a working desktop again eventually), but if there's any other debugging info that it would be useful for me to collect, please let know.
[20:01] <gnoutchd> Alright, now I know for certain that this is an input grab problem.  I just ran "xdotool key XF86LogGrabInfo" from SSH, which caused X to log information about input grabs.  As I suspected, gnome-shell has a grab on both the keyboard and the mouse.
[20:08] <gnoutchd> Ah, I think this may be the bug I'm experiencing: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700854
[20:09] <gnoutchd> :heh :)
[20:09] <gnoutchd> Thanks :)
[20:20] <gnoutchd> Yep, I've been able to reproduce my input problem in another user account by middle-clicking on a message tray icon.  And I'm pretty sure that was also the last thing I did before I started experience the problem in my main user account.
[20:21] <gnoutchd> So I consider this bug tracked down.  You may now ignore my previous request for help. :)