[21:55] <Lillymon> Casper76: When I saw the system requirements, the first thing I did was tweet about considering a switch to Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[21:55] <Chipzzz> mikeddd: gksudo synaptic
[21:55] <Simkin> Casper76: disable all the eye candy and it's "bearable"
[21:55] <Lillymon> How easy is switching from Ubuntu to Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[21:55] <jibadeeha> Casper76, must be hardware related as it runs like a dream on my netbook that uses an low powered Intel Atom N270 with 2GB of RAM
[21:55] <twilno> Trubuntu
[21:55] <uabn93> Simkin: Ahh. So I guess my future plans are to mix a phenom II with Nvidia. Is this a good mix? I mean, is it likely that I will run into some issues?
[21:56] <zvacet> mikedddd: didn´t knmow that sorry I don´t know how to help you
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Rehan: No, no GUI (that I know of) for crazy things like this :)
[21:56] <twilno> ubuntu is awesome
[21:56] <uabn93> For a new rig.
[21:56] <Simkin> uabn93: i have that setup right now, works great
[21:56] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  maybe.
[21:56] <Simkin> uabn93: six cores amd process + nvidia viid card. it's great :)
[21:56] <mikedddd> ah... thnaks.....
[21:56] <jibadeeha> Casper76, what video card do you have
[21:56] <uabn93> :)
[21:56] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thats ok, I can do stuff on CLI with some instruction. Would i basically be mounting the ISO to cdrom or something?
[21:56] <Xylch> How do I change the Unity appmenu close/min/max to my themes default?
[21:56] <Casper76> Simkin,  Yeah,  it was bearable but still slow.
[21:57] <botcity> rezzy_,  which soundcard have you?
[21:57] <Simkin> Casper76: i think we're asking too much of our p4's :)
[21:57] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  integrated intel chipset, cant think of the exact model off hand
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Basically, make *absolutely sure* that the USB drive is not mounted. Make *absolutely sure* you know the correct device name for your USB drive (/dev/sdX, and you want the whole drive, *not* a partition like /dev/sda1).
[21:57] <rezzy_> botcity: VIA VT2020
[21:57] <zvacet> mikedddd:  try with apt-cache show <packagename> to see is it installed
[21:58] <Rehan> Jordan_U: ok, i can do that part with fdisk -l
[21:58] <uabn93> Simkin: What kind of video card are ya using?
[21:58] <rezzy_> botcity: Integrated chip on the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula mobo
[21:58] <guntbert> LjL: pm?
[21:58] <jelg> Just installed Natty (on Dell Dimension 9150 with NVidia graphics) - does not work - the unity UI comes up but accept no input
[21:58] <jelg> only works in "safe mode" it appears
[21:58] <jelg> not even in "classical mode" etc
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Then run "gksudo kvm /dev/sdX -cdrom /path/to/ubuntu.iso -boot d -m 2G".
[21:58] <Stereocaulon> !es | n-iCe,
[21:58] <Simkin> uabn93: nvidia gts 250
[21:58] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  it ran terrible though. Even with classic mode withno effects!
[21:58] <LjL> guntbert: anytime
[21:58] <mikedddd> @zvacet it shows
[21:58] <Casper76> but, lubuntu has saved me. I love it.
[21:59] <Simkin> so how do we change workspaces in unity!?
[21:59] <Rehan> Jordan_U: very cool. :)
[21:59] <jibadeeha> Simkin, click on the workspaces icon
[21:59] <Casper76> Ubuntu was 90% of the time using 100% cpu
[21:59] <mikedddd> @zvacet can it be native to Lucid?
[21:59] <vorlov> can someone help me please with ubuntu ami on amazon ec2
[21:59] <vorlov> ?
[21:59] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thank you again for all of your help. Going to try this out :)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Rehan: It should bring up a window where you will see the LiveCD start booting. Before you install confirm that the drive you see in the virtual machine looks like the right drive and make *absolutely sure* that the USB drive is not mounted at any point while kvm is running.
[21:59] <jibadeeha> Simkin, it is an icon with a grid and when you hover your mouse over it it says Workspace Switcher
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: doesn't exist
[22:00] <Rehan> Jordan_U: will do
[22:00] <Simkin> but i found the kb short cut ctrl-alt-right and ctrl-alt-left
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: where is this mysterious icon?
[22:00] <keito> is there a command to open the gnome2 menu, that I can then assign to a screen edge?
[22:00] <Rehan> whats the -m 2G flag mean Jordan_U ?
[22:00] <pladijs> Running ubuntu 11.04. My system automatically logs into xfce on VT7. I'd like to automatically open a session on VT8 in parallel. What config files should i look at?
[22:00] <zvacet> mikedddd: I´m sorry didn´t understand you
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Getting any device name wrong could have severe consequences. If this ends up killing your cat it's not my fault :)
[22:00] <jibadeeha> Simkin, on mine it is the third one from the bottom
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: bottom of what
[22:01] <mikedddd> @zvacet can it be native to Ubuntu 10.04.1
[22:01] <Casper76> test
[22:01] <jibadeeha> Simkin, unity dockbar or whatever they call it
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: ok, now i see it
[22:01] <keito> I know alt+f1 opens the menu, but I still have no idea how to execute the same action via a single command
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: this is retarded.
[22:01] <zvacet> mikedddd: sudo dpkg --purge <packagename>
[22:01] <Rehan> Jordan_U: oh no worries, i'm a n00b to linux but not a n00b to doing due diligence when messing around on computers :P
[22:01] <jibadeeha> Simkin, howcome?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Give the virtual machine 2 GiB of RAM rather than the default (I think 512 MiB).
[22:01] <Casper76> .
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: it's not even on the screen all the time, it doesn't have a preview
[22:02] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thanks again, will be back in a bit!
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Rehan: You're welcome.
[22:02] <vorlov> anyone?
[22:02] <jibadeeha> Simkin, yeah i miss the preview - just noticed that, so perhaps i didn't miss it that much
[22:02] <mikedddd> @zvacet hm... removing request to remove ffmpeg which isn't installed
[22:02] <vorlov> experience with aws?
[22:02] <mikedddd> but apt show ffmpeg shows me the package
[22:02] <Pici> vorlov: #ubuntu-server and/or #ubuntu-cloud would be better places to ask.
[22:02] <uabn93> Simkin: Btw, have you ever tried Dolphin Emu on your setup?
[22:03] <vorlov> Pici:  thank u  much!!
[22:03] <zvacet> mikedddd:  try  updatedb
[22:03] <jibadeeha> Simkin, it is easier to use though by clicking on it and moving windows between desktops rather than working with a tiny preview pager as was the case in 10.10
[22:03] <Braiam> zvacet: it'll take a while, so wait
[22:03] <miceiken> Problem: I just installed mysql-server and when I try to do 'mysql -u root' I get "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[22:04] <Osmodivs> is there a way to copy-paste text o Xchat?
[22:04] <zvacet> Braiam: yes,I know but maybe updating data base solve question
[22:04] <usr13> Osmodivs: Sure
[22:04] <Guybrush88> osmodivs, ctrl+c to copy and crtl+v to paste
[22:05] <pattysmatty> how can i get into my routers interface?
[22:05] <Osmodivs> Guybrush88> osmodivs, ctrl+c to copy and crtl+v to paste
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: go to it's IP
[22:05] <pattysmatty> how do i figure that out?
[22:05] <Osmodivs> Guybrush88, thx
[22:05] <Stereocaulon> pattysmatty, RTFM
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: They usually all have web based interface
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: route -n
[22:05] <jelg> Is there a known problem with NVidia drivers for Natty?
[22:05] <BrainVirus> pattysmatty:  what is the brand
[22:05] <Guybrush88> osmodivs, you're welcome
[22:05] <twilno> ghostOS
[22:06] <zvacet> !language | Stereocaulon
[22:06] <usr13> pattysmatty: Open a terminal and type  route -n   hit enter.
[22:06] <pattysmatty> usr13, thanks
[22:06] <Stereocaulon> zvacet, Read the Friendly Manual, what's shocking about that? ;-)
[22:06] <suigeneris> !grub2
[22:06] <takeshi> guys, gnome 3 depends of unity? or i can install it without it?
[22:06] <pattysmatty> stereocaulon, you'r enot suppose to say rtfm.... if you want to say that go to ##freebsd
[22:07] <zvacet> Stereocaulon: yes,sure  8-)
[22:07] <blackbit> takeshi I heard gnome3 + unity might cause problems
[22:07] <guntbert> !gnome3 | takeshi
[22:07] <Osmodivs> Stereocaulon, XD NOTHING!! ROTFL
[22:07] <Simkin> jibadeeha: my biggest problem with this new interface is you can't just browse all the apps
[22:07] <takeshi> then i will wait for ubuntu 11.10 :P
[22:07] <Simkin> jibadeeha: why did they take away the fold out menu!?
[22:07] <takeshi> Thanks guys
[22:08] <jibadeeha> Simkin, yeah i find myself having to depend on keyboard shortcuts and alt+f2 more often
[22:08] <Stereocaulon> pattysmatty, sorry about that. What I meant was that you can probably find it in your router's manual. Mostly a router has it's main interface page at <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: yes, that's how i like to work too.
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: menu is only useful when you want to "browse"
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: and now it's gone!
[22:08] <ChR0n05> so is there any way to get the menu to open in gnome2 by issuing a command?
[22:10] <ChR0n05> pattysmatty, or <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:10] <jibadeeha> Simkin, i never really liked gnome2 menus though
[22:11] <Stereocaulon> ChR0n05, yes, that is also used widely, though I <IP_ADDRESS> is more common for some reason...
[22:11] <BlaDe^> my external USB hdd doesn't seem to get detected on ubuntu -- any ideas why?
[22:11] <ChR0n05> Stereocaulon, last 3 routers I've had have been .0.1
[22:11] <ChR0n05> jibadeeha, I quite like gnome2 menu
[22:11] <Simkin> jibadeeha: well it was better than what we have now.
[22:12] <Simkin> this is unusable
[22:12] <Simkin> oh well
[22:12] <ChR0n05> Simkin, agreed
[22:12] <Simkin> ChR0n05: you also feel this is a terrible move?
[22:12] <Simkin> ChR0n05: to me, it's even worse than when kde went to kde 4.x from 3.5.10
[22:13] <Simkin> and that was seriously bad!
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I don't like navigating my apps in such a way no
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I really like gnome3's indicator
[22:13] <Stereocaulon> ChR0n05, fair enough, I have configured about 12 different models, most of them aimed at home users did not use <IP_ADDRESS> as main address. May just be coincidence though, think nothing of it.
[22:13] <jibadeeha> Simkin, KDE 3.5.10 was sublime
[22:13] <aj00200> HaHas anyone else had a problem with LibreOffice Writer being unstable?
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I think the unity launcher should be movable and not always extend
[22:13] <Simkin> jibadeeha: kde 4.x is getting there again.. but i'm starting to doubt it will actually make it there.
[22:13] <cheapie> Is anybody here experienced with compiling software? I'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602991/
[22:13] <jelg> Natty on my PC does not accept any input, e.g. mouse clicks etc (the mouse cursor is there but no actions)
[22:13] <ChR0n05> Stereocaulon, yeah, depends on model.
[22:14] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the DAAP record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[22:14] <jibadeeha> Simkin, i hope they get back on track ... another interface i really liked was Amarok 1.4 and then they ruined it with Amarok 2.0 .. not sure if that has improved, but wish they had left it alone
[22:14] <Kartagis> unity?
[22:14] <ChR0n05> Simkin, I leep trying to like kde 4.6, but it's just too messy, configurations are all over the place
[22:14] <minimec> BlaDe^: after you plugged it try 'dmesg | tail' in a console. That may give you some information.
[22:14] <buck_work> How do I disable Compiz in 11.04?
[22:14] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, does your drive show up in grep "USB" /var/log/messages
[22:14] <Osmodivs> Kardos_, unity sucks!!!
[22:15] <Kardos_> really?
[22:15] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, Unity sucks!!!
[22:15] <Kardos_> you needed to tell me that?
[22:15] <cheapie> buck_work: Log in with "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)" or "Unity 2D"
[22:15] <Osmodivs> Kardos_, Sorry, wrong nick
[22:15]  * Kardos_ stuffs a dead hooker in Osmodivs's car
[22:15] <buck_work> Ahhhhh.
[22:15] <BlaDe^> minimec nothing in dmesg about it
[22:15] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon messages doesn't exist on natty
[22:15] <buck_work> Time for another logout then. Thanks, cheapie.
[22:15]  * ChR0n05 never gets any answers anymore
[22:16] <Kartagis> Osmodivs: what is it? apparently I don't have the hardware tu run it
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I need desperate Ubuntu help
[22:16] <Kartagis> ask?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I'm having some severe video driver issues
[22:16] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, in that case my knowledge is outdated. Does it show up in lsusb?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I installed a driver for my ATI card last night via command line
[22:16] <Kartagis> !unity
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> And, being a noob
[22:16] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, I dunno, What happen? I just got here, tell me your problem
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I want to know how to remove it
[22:16] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: What's wrong?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> As it broke EVERYTHING
[22:17] <ray24> I just reformatted my ubuntu and  still cannot access files on my secondary hd
[22:17] <Stereocaulon> !enter | TheBritishEditor,
[22:17] <andrewsmith1986> Ubuntu on mac == trouble. :/
[22:17] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Is it a Debian package?
[22:17] <minimec> BlaDe^: if it is somehow recognized it should give you the /dev/sdX device. Is it possible to have external power for that hdd. Try that too.
[22:17] <swazzy> can some one help me i have no border to close or minimize can some one help me fix it i have ubuntu 11.04 unity
[22:17] <Osmodivs> ¡alsa
[22:17] <TheBritishEditor> I'll remember to do that, sorry.
[22:17] <Kartagis> Osmodivs: I just upgraded to natty and when I rebooted, I got a message saying I don't have the hardware tu run unity
[22:17] <A-KO^> Greetings: for some reason PHP isn't updating on lucid lynx though I'm sure there's a newer version of PHP than 5.3.2 in the distro, how can I check for this?
[22:17] <TheBritishEditor> It's a terrible habit of mine
[22:17] <aj00200> Has anyone else had a problem with LibreOffice Writer being unstable? Possibly with OpenJDK? I'm wondering if it is my setup or an overall problem.
[22:17] <LjL> !info php5 | A-KO^
[22:18] <bikcmp> Hi all, i'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto and getting a quite odd error: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfp43LDkTX006283 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=127): No such file or directory
[22:18] <LjL> A-KO^: you're right, there is 5.3.5. maybe you put it on hold for some reason and forgot?
[22:18] <bikcmp> (when I telnet to localhost/25)
[22:18] <BlaDe^> minimec nope its a passport drive, completely usb powered
[22:18] <A-KO^> LjL: nope, but how would I check that?.
[22:18] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: It's OK, as long as you try to remember not to... Now, as for that video driver, do you know if it was a Debian package (.deb file)?
[22:19] <LjL> A-KO^: tell me the output of dpkg -l php5 please
[22:19] <BlaDe^> minimec /dev/sda, sda1, sda2 and sda5 exist
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I don't know if it is or not
[22:19] <Kartagis> bikcmp: uid 0 and gid 127 can't write to that directory
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I don't think it is.
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> AH THERE I WENT AGAIN
[22:19] <alanonymous> is gnome3 really not customizable?  For instance, moving launcher panel, allowing multiple instances of something like chrome to be launched from launcher, etc?
[22:19] <A-KO^> Name php5 Version 5.3.2-1ubuntu4 Description server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I downloaded it as a .run file, made it an executable, installed it, and then everythings broken <_<
[22:19] <LjL> TheBritishEditor: that's a recipe for trouble :\
[22:19] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, That's a new one.
[22:20] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Well, that's not good...
[22:20] <minimec> BlaDe^: that is probably your internal harddrive. It may be 'sdb' ...
[22:20] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, This only shows that the external HDD is not recognized aas an external HDD, but does it show up in the list of usb devices or not?
[22:20] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: I'll go do a bit of research and bet back to you.
[22:20] <TheBritishEditor> I'm only a few days into Ubuntu, a fresh install isn't out of the question, but I've had so much flipping trouble with my graphics that I might just switch distros
[22:20] <Casper76> what graphics card?
[22:20] <TheBritishEditor> Or go back to my cold, lonely Windows 7 installation who hides at the bottom of GRUB
[22:20] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon how do I get a list of usb devices?
[22:21] <bencc> how do I clear a file (nginx error.log file) ?
[22:21] <ChR0n05> TheBritishEditor, did you try installing the driver from the repos?
[22:21] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, try lsusb
[22:21] <BlaDe^> did that, only shows 4 hubs
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4870]
[22:21] <BlaDe^> my drive lights up so it definitely has power
[22:21] <BlaDe^> and it works on windows
[22:21] <minimec> BlaDe^: External dardrives should be recognized without problem ... Should be recognized as mass storage device.
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> I tried the driver recommended to me from the driver manager
[22:21] <ChR0n05> bencc, overwrite it?
[22:21] <LjL> A-KO^: err, i needed the first two letters at the beginning of the line
[22:21] <BlaDe^> minimec it used to work on 10.04
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> But it still breaks everything
[22:22] <ChR0n05> TheBritishEditor, by break what do you mean, what exactly happens?
[22:22] <zvacet> TheBritishEditor: wait to see if someone help you removing it and after that try to install from system>additional drivers
[22:22] <Osmodivs> ¡drivers
[22:22] <Osmodivs> :(
[22:22] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, that's odd indeed. Did you already try a different port? Some ports might be able to provide more power than others. If in doubt use a port on the back, not the front.
[22:22] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: I found some instructions that might help. The first step is to run sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[22:22] <bencc> ChR0n05: I tried "sudo cat /dev/null > /usr/local/nginx/logs/error.log" but I'm getting "Permission Denied"
[22:22] <alanonymous> can someone explain to me how to move the launcher panel to the bottom of the screen in gnome 3?
[22:22] <TheBritishEditor> zvacet, I already tried to do it with that. Also, it breaks as in I can't use dual moniters, can't play any game, can't do anything graphical
[22:22] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's a laptop, they're all on the side
[22:23] <cheapie> Osmodivs: Did you mean !drivers?
[22:23] <s3r3n1t7> bencc, the cat is run as root, the pipe however is run as your user
[22:23] <ChR0n05> bencc, maybe nginx has a lock on it?  I'm not that familiar with it
[22:23] <zvacet> TheBritishEditor: now I see your above post sorry for been late
[22:23] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Did you run that command that I told you to yet?
[22:24] <TheBritishEditor> Ok, I ran that command
[22:24] <bencc> s3r3n1t7: do I need two sudo?
[22:24] <Osmodivs> cheapie,  Yeah.
[22:24] <ChR0n05> bencc, try switching to root
[22:24] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: OK. Please wait a second.
[22:24] <s3r3n1t7> bencc, sudo -i to create a root shell, execute the command without sudo, then logout of the shell again
[22:24] <TheBritishEditor> Sure, take your time
[22:24] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, does a normal USB pen drive get detected, or another USB gizmo?
[22:24] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, or sudo su ?
[22:25] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon usb mouse works
[22:25] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, no, that doesn't setup his env correctly. -i makes sure it's done properly, check the sudo guides for that
[22:25] <minimec> BlaDe^: I would do a complete shutdown, unplug that harddisk, do a clean boot and try again without having other USB devices connected.
[22:25] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so we can rule out an unsupported chipset then :-)
[22:25] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, so what does sudo su do then?  I've used that to switch to root before
[22:25] <BlaDe^> minimec it's a fresh install and has been rebooted once already
[22:26] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, it also creates a root shell, but it doesn't do any sort of checking and it can break your enviroment for using sudo with other programs.
[22:26] <zvacet> ChR0n05 : sudo -i if you want to switch to root
[22:26] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: OK. Please run the four commands specified here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602997/
[22:26] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, good to know
[22:26] <minimec> BlaDe^: then again dmesg or dmesg |tail should give you some info aobut the device, after you plugged it.
[22:26] <Angelic> I keep getting my wireless networks greyed out
[22:26] <ChR0n05> zvacet, cheers ;)
[22:26] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, if what minimec says works, you might have a power issue when it comes to your USB ports.
[22:27] <Angelic> I can't connect to wireless for some reason -- however it shows the wireless networks but the wireless networks that I want to connect to are grayed.
[22:27] <BlaDe^> dmesg | tail doesn't show anything
[22:27] <zvacet> ChR0n05:  :)
[22:27] <BlaDe^> I don't think it's a power issue, it works on windows... on the same laptop..
[22:27] <BlaDe^> *** dmesg | tail shows stuff about wlan but nothing when hdd is plugged/unplugged
[22:27] <ChR0n05> when would one want to use sudo su then?
[22:27] <jrib> ChR0n05: never
[22:27] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, with both devices attached? Hmm...
[22:27] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: I'm getting "No such file or directory" with the first command
[22:28] <minimec> Stereocaulon: BlaDe^: That's what I was thinking too... --> power
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, why is it available then?
[22:28] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: That's OK. Just keep going with the others. Ignore any errors.
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, why not remove it as an option?
[22:28] <jrib> ChR0n05: what do you mean by "available"?  jumping off bridges is available too...
[22:28] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, sudo su is not using an option. It's a program you're passing to sudo
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, i mean why does it do anything, there is obviously a reason for it
[22:29] <jrib> ChR0n05: sudo runs programs.  su is a program
[22:29] <jrib> ChR0n05: that doesn't mean it's a good idea to run it
[22:29] <ChR0n05> yeah, fair enough, just curious
[22:29] <Chipzzz> chR0n05: seems like sudo su is not an appropriate topic of conversation here
[22:29] <ChR0n05> Chipzzz, well we kind of arrived here, so now I'm curious
[22:30] <jrib> ChR0n05: to properly obtain a root shell you should use « sudo -i »
[22:30] <cheapie> ChR0n05: It's like duct tape being able to hold things together. It just does that, it wasn't programmed to.
[22:30] <ChR0n05> jrib, yeah that has been advised
[22:30] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, try to see if the BIOS/(U)EFI detects your HDD as such, when you boot with both mouse and hdd attached.
[22:30]  * ChR0n05 would like to clarify, he doesn't need to use sudo su and hasn't done so
[22:30] <Chipzzz> Chr0n05: I arrived at the same conclusion by the same method ;)
[22:30] <cheapie> I wonder what's taking TheBritishEditor so long...
[22:30] <iceroot> ChR0n05: you can use cat foo | grep bar   too  its available but stupid
[22:30] <minimec> BlaDe^: Do you have a powerd USB hub that you could connect between the HDD and the laptop? THat might also help.
[22:31] <BlaDe^> minimec nope
[22:31] <kesi> hi all, I'm trying to figure out why my cpu is at 100% for the last hour.  Xorg is using 44% and vino server is using 25% and I don't know why
[22:31] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: Got errors on every single one of those commands.
[22:31] <BlaDe^> but it works on windows so it can't be a power issue, can it?
[22:31] <ChR0n05> iceroot, I've seen tutorials from years ago that recommended using sudo su
[22:31] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: That's OK. Try rebooting and see if your issues go away.
[22:31] <iceroot> ChR0n05: sudo su is the wrong way
[22:31] <belak> Is there a way to remove memtest and the recovery kernel from the boot menu?
[22:31] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: Alright.
[22:31] <ChR0n05> iceroot, those tutorials were probably wrong
[22:31] <iceroot> ChR0n05: doesnt matter if some "noob" peolpe suggest sudo su
[22:32] <ChR0n05> i've seen lots of tutorials use sudo gedit instead of gksudo gedit too
[22:32] <iceroot> ChR0n05: i have seen tutorial using cat foo | grep bar too
[22:32] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, actually it can still be a power issue, some power management works better on Windows than Linux, if your chipset is only partially supported. If you have an Intel chipset, you should be allright though,
[22:32] <ChR0n05> iceroot, lol
[22:32] <iceroot> ChR0n05: real tutorials suggest sudo vim instead of sudo/gksudo gedit :)
[22:32] <jmrkill3rgh0st> hi
[22:32] <BlaDe^> it's an amd chipset, Stereocaulon
[22:32] <bikcmp> Kartagis: 21:19:15  < Kartagis> bikcmp: uid 0 and gid 127 can't write to that directory
[22:32] <bikcmp> Kartagis: how can I fix that?
[22:32] <ChR0n05> iceroot, no emacs
[22:33] <zvacet> ChR0n05:  read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:33]  * ChR0n05 ducks for cover
[22:33] <cheapie> iceroot: I personally prefer nano, but whatever...
[22:33] <belak> Let's not start an editor war...
[22:33] <belak> cheapie: yeah, especially since nano actually has syntax hilighting
[22:33] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, AMD is quite general as well, but if it's a really new latop, well...
[22:33] <iceroot> ChR0n05: but back to topic, sudo su is wrong because its setting the environment wrong
[22:33] <ChR0n05> cheapie, yeah, I use nano when staying within the confines of a terminal
[22:33] <ChR0n05> iceroot, yeah, I know that much, I mean to learn why it is wrong
[22:33] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, latop => la>p<top
[22:34] <cheapie> belak: I just like how much easier nano is to use. I have never managed to figure out vim.
[22:34] <ChR0n05> zvacet has psoted a link for me
[22:34] <ChR0n05> so, anyone know how to open gnome2 menu via a single command?
[22:34] <belak> cheapie: personally I like vim. It's amazing, but the learning curve sucks.
[22:34] <swazzy> plus i can't move my windows
[22:34] <gkx> Hi there. I'm using NVidia on Natty Narwhal, and the world appears to be crashing down on me. Can someone help?
[22:34] <RavenHursT> Say I wanted to run a command at the end of the boot sequence on my ubuntu server.. what file would I put that in?
[22:35] <minimec> BlaDe^: I would do tests like that. I don't see any reason for that HDD not to work with a standard ubuntu install. It should be recognized as simple 'mass storage device'. Only thing I see is a 'power' problem. In that case dmesg may not see the device. In all other cases, the system should see the device and give you some info with 'dmesg | tail' after you plugged the HDD.
[22:35] <Stereocaulon> cheapie, just remember that nano is not available by default on all *nix systems, vi is, to my knowledge.
[22:35] <belak> cheapie: http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg
[22:35] <RavenHursT> Like.. remember back in the days of AUTOEXEC.BAT?
[22:35] <cheapie> belak: The only editor I use besides nano is emacs, and that's just for dunnet... Anyway, yeah, that's a little off topic...
[22:35] <Guybrush88> gkx, have you upgraded your drivers?
[22:35] <gkx> I don't know how. :) Or, at least, I tried and it didn't seem to work.
[22:35] <cheapie> gkx: What's happening, exactly?
[22:35] <AdmV0rl0n> jeez. I am so hating unity.
[22:35] <RavenHursT> what would be the "equivalent" of AUTOEXEC.BAT in Ubuntu?
[22:35] <Mitchell|2> Hey... can someone help me? Just tried installing 11.04 on my intel macbook... it froze, rebooted it... now it wont install ubuntu, and the windows partition gives a blue screen and won't boot.
[22:35] <BlaDe^> minimec ok np
[22:36] <bindi> RavenHursT: rc.local?
[22:36] <Stereocaulon> belak, lol
[22:36] <gkx> cheapie: I load Natty Narwhal off of dual boot, and it gives me a black screen
[22:36] <cheapie> !classic | AdmV0rl0n
[22:36] <cheapie> gkx: After or before you log in?
[22:36] <gkx> cheapie: I'm running failsafe graffics right now
[22:36] <gkx> Before
[22:36] <RavenHursT> bindi: ok.. let me check that out.. btw.. rc.. is that the same acronymn that's used in .bashrc?
[22:36] <ErikM_> hello everybody
[22:36] <cheapie> gkx: Are the drivers installed?
[22:37] <gkx> Which drivers?
[22:37] <Stereocaulon> Hi ErikM_ :-)
[22:37] <bindi> RavenHursT: probably, i havent bothered to look up what they even mean :p
[22:37] <cheapie> gkx: Well, does anything show up in the additional drivers window?
[22:37] <Kartagis> bikcmp: you may want to ask in #postfix or #ubuntu-server
[22:38] <gkx> cheapie: It's really hard to work with my graphics right now. Everything is in the wrong resolution, which is a graphics problem I struggled with on a regular basis on 10.10
[22:38] <ErikM_> does any one know any workaround for the nvidia driver issue being installed but not in use? :)
[22:38] <gkx> cheapie: So, to answer your question, I can't quite access that
[22:38] <tenochslb> I am hating banshee, any idea how to make i tunes podcasts work?
[22:38] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, did you check under System => Administration => Extra drivers?
[22:39] <cheapie> gkx: Can you press Alt+F2 and type jockey-gtk, and press enter?
[22:39] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: jepp... 173 installed and not in use, even if I switch to the newest one... same result
[22:40] <gkx> cheapie: Did so now, it didn't appear to do anything.
[22:40] <RavenHursT> bindi: Found it.. "Run Commands" or RUNCOM... http://pastebin.com/eL4rsxvG
[22:40] <cheapie> gkx: As in nothing appeared?
[22:40] <gkx> Yes
[22:40] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, did you reboot after installing the proprietary drivers?
[22:40] <cheapie> gkx: Are you typing on the computer with the problem?
[22:40] <bindi> RavenHursT: cool :)
[22:41] <gkx> cheapie: Yes
[22:41] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon:  jepp, after every new install, no effect
[22:41] <cheapie> gkx: Do you have another computer available?
[22:41] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, which GPU do you have?
[22:41] <xangua> tenochslb: those podcast you are suscribed in itunes surely have a web, and an atom/rss feed you can suscribe to
[22:41] <gkx> cheapie: Yes.
[22:41] <lapion> how many people in here want to "sudo aptitude purge unity" ????
[22:42] <cheapie> gkx: Do you think you can go to that computer and chat from there so we can switch to text mode on this one?
[22:42] <lapion> unity is really beginng to bug me in a irky way..
[22:42] <xangua> !ot | lapion
[22:42] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: GeForce 9500GT
[22:42] <gkx> Yeah, let me just figure out how to IRC on a mac. :P Shouldn't take too long
[22:42] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, Hmm, how did you go about in installing the drivers?
[22:42] <lapion> xangua, that is totally ontopic for ubuntu..
[22:43] <cheapie> gkx: Try webchat.freenode.net
[22:43] <Jordan_U> lapion: The topic is Ubuntu *support*.
[22:43] <Pici> lapion: This is a support channel, not somewhere for complaining.
[22:43] <dfclark_> Any help on installing Java on Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:44] <gkx2> cheapie: Hurrah!
[22:44] <cheapie> gkx2: Are you on the working computer now?
[22:44] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, What flavour of Java do you want to install?
[22:44] <dfclark_> jdk 1.6
[22:44] <dfclark_> yes
[22:44] <gkx2> cheapie: Yes
[22:44] <lapion> well how do I purge unity out of natty without uninstalling the whole ubuntu package.. or how can I modify unity to suit my own way..
[22:44] <Gyrth> the ubuntu scrolling bar has changed. i liked the hidden bar.
[22:45] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | lapion
[22:45] <lapion> that is ubuntu-desktop
[22:45] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: applications > system > additional drivers > there are 2 driver versions - 173 and version current), klicking of the one NOT activated starts the install, after installing andd verifying it being installed and activated I reboot as prompted
[22:45] <cheapie> gkx2: OK. On the broken computer, press Ctrl+Alt+F1. It should prompt you for your username and password.
[22:45] <tenochslb> xangua, yes but then what is the point of having an add a podcast button on Banshee. Plus i am trying to add the podcast to my mp3 player.
[22:46] <lapion> so if I uninstall ubuntu-desktop I should be abole to safely purge unity without par default uninstalling all other ubuntu-desktop packages ?
[22:46] <pattysmatty> when u have 400w power supply
[22:46] <pattysmatty> along with 2 dual monitors all energy efficient on 24/7
[22:46] <cheapie> gkx: I see you changed your username on me... anyway, on the broken computer, press Ctrl+Alt+F1. It should prompt you for your username and password.
[22:46] <pattysmatty> what's cost of uphold?
[22:46] <koppe> Considering upgrading to newest version of Ubuntu, but was wondering what
[22:46] <cheapie> pattysmatty: This is for the Ubuntu OS, not computer companies that make computers with it.
[22:47] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, does     gksudo /usr/bin/nvidia-settings   give an error, or does it display the nVidia control-panel?
[22:47] <koppe> 's the status with X.  Heard they considered replacing it, but really like it...
[22:47] <xangua> lapion: ubuntu-dektop is just a metapackage, will do nothing if you uninstall it
[22:47] <erik333> lapion, you can switch to ubuntu-classic in gdm as well (just log out) or install some other DE/wm such as kubuntu-desktop
[22:48] <chrometiger> ok, i downloaded 11.04  installed it, no errors that I saw and when it started to boot for the first time, as soon as it goes past Grub loader  ubuntu hangs at a black screen with blinking cursor,   what could be wrong
[22:48] <dfclark_> I downloaded the JDK package from Oracle, then followed their instructions to install.  But what env vars have to be set, and where, so that other tools, etc, can use the JDK?
[22:48] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: brings up the nvidia X server settings
[22:48] <xangua> !java
[22:48] <xangua> dfclark_: or you could have installed it from repository
[22:48] <erik333> since unity seems to be the default canonical UI from now on, it might be wise to keep it around
[22:49] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, openjdk-6 should install just fine or are you trying to install (gasp...) Oracle JDK 1.6?
[22:49] <ChR0n05> what command shows main menu in gnome2?
[22:49] <trentg> ChR0n05, alt-f1
[22:49] <ChR0n05> trentg, terminal command ;)
[22:50] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, if that screen shows the Xserver config, the driver is installed and used. What NVIDIA Driver Version do you see? 173.[something]? or a newer version?
[22:50] <lapion> how do I get visual effects back in apearance preferences, you see I would like the old extra effects.. also I would like to know how I can save a session..
[22:50] <dfclark_> Oracle (nee Sun) JDK.  Should I use something different on Ubuntu?
[22:50] <Charismaa> how cute i get tossed into a channel automatically
[22:51] <lapion> you see it is a real pain in the ass to start all browsers all chat programs all terminal sessions along with p2p sharing programs each time..
[22:51] <teemo> im on ubuntu 11.04, im trying to find instances of the currently running apps, coz everytime i try to start skype, it says there is another instance of it running
[22:51] <lapion> takes half an hour of my time..
[22:51] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: 173.14.30 but if it is in use, why is the system so damn slow? :)
[22:51] <shcherbak> teemo: htop
[22:52] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, I've tried to install the Oracle one, to no avail. For simple projects openjdk-6 will do just fine. For the more complex ones, especially for closed libs, Oracle JDK might indeed be required...
[22:52] <shcherbak> teemo: Or top, ps, pgrep, pstree, and some more
[22:52] <sburwood1> Someone wanna help me with a problem burning CD / DVD?
[22:52] <Aginor> !ask | sburwood1
[22:53] <dfclark_> Thank you, to all
[22:53] <lapion> Stereocaulon, you can allways install the oracle sun version by enabling restricted/non-free software
[22:53] <teemo> shcherbak, any of those GUI?
[22:53] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, I'm puzzled here. I use a nVidia 9600 LT GPU which is quite similar to your card. My displayed Version is 270.41.06
[22:54] <sburwood1> I've been trying to burn CDs, both images (Natty) and data disks.  I keep coming back with unknown errors (254, for example)
[22:54] <shcherbak> teemo: Nope, htop is very easy, but you have menu > system > Admin > System monitor (with gui)
[22:54] <consolecowboy> i need to write a script that mimicks the highlighting of the word the cursor is currently at. how could this be achieved?
[22:54] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: you are on 11.04 and the driver is working properly on your side?
[22:54] <sburwood1> the disks aren't burnt.  Why?
[22:54] <shcherbak> teemo: Are you on Unity?
[22:55] <Stereocaulon> lapion, on 10.10 that option did not work for me. I got stuck in dependency hell, in spite of the .deb package.
[22:55] <ice9> Is there anyone that is using the Iwl3945 driver with Aircrack-ng on Natty
[22:55] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: oh, looks like I am not the only one : http://askubuntu.com/questions/37084/nvidia-driver-activated-but-currently-not-in-use
[22:56] <toto654> someone use ekiga here?
[22:56] <RavenHursT> so if I wanna do a `cp -R * /tmp/somefolder` on a dir tree.. how do I modify that command so that ALL files (including files like .htaccess etc) and dirs will be copied?
[22:56] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, yes, you are correct. The version I use is designated "Current". Mind you, I have upgraded from 10.10. Mine was no clean install.
[22:57] <Aginor> RavenHursT: cp -r <src> <target>?
[22:57] <lapion> Stereocaulon, the ubuntu software center should install it..
[22:57] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: ok, I first upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04, then because of unity installed Kubuntu on same partition freshly....
[22:57] <pasjr> Has any one been able to enable rgba true in Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity?
[22:57] <teemo> how can i rearrange things on the new ubuntu launcher sidebar
[22:58] <RavenHursT> Aginor: isn't that effectively the same thing?  `cp -R * /tmp` ?
[22:58] <lapion> Stereocaulon,  just type jdk into the search of ubuntu software center
[22:58] <Jordan_U> teemo: Click and hold the icon you want to re-arrange, then drag (after it pops off the launcher).
[22:58] <shcherbak> RavenHursT: cp -r /directory/with/dots/ /to/
[22:58] <Stereocaulon> lapion, I will once I'll need to develop another Java program ;-)
[23:00] <RavenHursT> shcherbak: but I don't want to copy the parent dir.. I want o copy it's contents.. there's no way to do that w/o first copying the dir as a whole?
[23:00] <venik212> I am having trouble with SAMBA after upgrading to 11.04
[23:00] <lapion> can anyone tell em how to enable adding and removing plugins from the unity panels ?
[23:00] <venik212> same smb.conf file
[23:00] <pasjr> ? Has any one been able to enable rgba true in Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity?  If so please IM me thank you
[23:00] <Aginor> RavenHursT: seeing your last statement
[23:00] <Stereocaulon> lapion, that is...a program that refuses to compile under openjdk. I am not exactly a big fan of Oracle, as you might have gathered.
[23:00] <Aginor> RavenHursT: cp -r .??* * <target>
[23:00] <venik212> I get error messages like: cannot retrieve sahre list form server
[23:00] <xsinick> how to make desktop icon of my favorite apps?
[23:00] <RavenHursT> Aginor.. lmtt
[23:01] <Aginor> RavenHursT: it wasn't clear that you didn't want to copy the first directory
[23:01] <Stereocaulon> lapion, If I spoke freely about that company, I would be unable to keep this channel civilised and family friendly :-P
[23:01] <lapion> Stereocaulon, simply edit the source and remove the checks for jdk version
[23:02] <Aginor> RavenHursT: lmtt?
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: Awesome!~  That worked!
[23:02] <RavenHursT> thnx
[23:02] <xsinick> how to make desktop icon of my favorite apps?
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: Let Me Try That
[23:02] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: back in a minute, restart computer
[23:02] <Stereocaulon> lapion, I can try that next time I'll need it. Thanks again for the suggestion :-)
[23:02] <bibleboy> hello
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: So why doesn't cp confuse the second '*' with being the dest?
[23:02] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:03] <lightbricko> Anyone knows if sugarsync or dropbox works well in Ubuntu?
[23:03] <RavenHursT> Aginor: didn't know you could just keep listing files to copy like that..
[23:03] <bibleboy> is there any way to install ubuntu on my windows xp pc without partitioning my hard drive but without internet
[23:03] <skybound> RavenHursT: you can use "shopt -s dotglob"; now globbing with "*' will include hidden files
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: pre download iso, same directory as wubi, then wubi
[23:03] <tyler_d> I have tried a few diff methods to get my tray icons back to no avail.... anyone have a solution to get apps like ekiga, davmail, amsn to show on your icontray?
[23:04] <bibleboy> thanks:-D
[23:04] <RavenHursT> skybound.. thnx.. Aginor just gave me a good command for cp: cp -r .??* * <target>
[23:04] <Froq__> Does anyone have a fix for the crappy VNC over 11.04?
[23:04] <bibleboy> will ubuntu run on 512 mb
[23:04] <consolecowboy> i'll rephrase: i need a command tool that will let me select or highlight the word a cursor is currently on, to be further processed with xsel and other tools
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: but you will need some internet source for the iso ofcourse
[23:04] <bibleboy> wait what do you mean smae directory
[23:04] <Aginor> RavenHursT: you can, and the last one is always the target
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: 512 is fine, though personally i'd use lubuntu, xubuntu or start from server for reducing all unneccessary 'weight'
[23:04] <Stereocaulon> !requirements | bibleboy
[23:05] <gridbag> in 10.10, how do I add something to the Addplication/Graphics Menu ?
[23:05] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: in the same folder as the wubi installer
[23:05] <Pici> gridbag: Run alacarte, that is the menu editor application name.
[23:05] <Aginor> RavenHursT: the ?? in .??* are important, without them you'll end up having .. in the list of files to copy, and things will go poorly
[23:05] <bibleboy> i have a win 7 pc with internet but want to install it on my old win xp along with xp
[23:05] <bibleboy> ok ill try that
[23:06] <RavenHursT> Aginor: you rock.. thanks man
[23:06] <bibleboy> my iso cd has wubi on it do i need internet for that or can i just use that
[23:07] <toto654> i have no sound with ekiga....anyone use it?
[23:07] <RavenHursT> Aginor++
[23:07] <bibleboy> do  need internet to install wubi from my ubuntu cd i made from the iso
[23:08] <bibleboy> it has wubi on it
[23:08] <bibleboy> because i dont feel like having to start my live cd in persistent mode every time
[23:08] <Aginor> RavenHursT: happy to help :D
[23:09] <skybound> consolecowboy: i think you'll get more answers when you try to explain what you are trying to do; i still don't get what you are asking; cursor in any (focused) window?
[23:09] <ray24> Can you download without entering password?
[23:09] <bibleboy> my ubuntu cd has a wubi installer on it. do i need internet to use it
[23:10] <wad> Enjoying the niceness of 11.04, but I'm not getting the multiple workspaces. I've got this workspace switcher that lets me look at other desktops, but I don't know how to move windows beteen them. I miss my desktop cube....
[23:11] <bibleboy> i can switch workspaces fine
[23:11] <wad> bibleboy: How?
[23:11] <erik333> just click and drag afaik
[23:12] <consolecowboy> skybound: yes, so if i'm typing anywhere, text editor, browser, i can hit a key that will run a little script. first thing i need it to do is 'highlight' the word that has just been typed
[23:12] <bibleboy> well you may have had a problem installing ubuntu or its a bug. I am using the live cd
[23:12] <consolecowboy> i'm aiming for a text replacement tool
[23:12] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon / minimec here?
[23:12] <consolecowboy> (used snippits but can't install in 11.04)
[23:13] <BlaDe^> It says new high speed usb device using ehci_hcd and address 68
[23:13] <BlaDe^> usb-storage etc etc
[23:13] <bibleboy> can i install ubuntu using the wubi on my cd i made from the iso file off the site.
[23:13] <Froq__> Anyone know why VNC is unusable in 11.04?  It worked fine for me in 10.04
[23:13] <BlaDe^> but it doesn't show up anywhere? doesn't seem to mount
[23:13] <Tomas> hello
[23:13] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, nice...
[23:13] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:13] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon any ideas why it isn't mounting now?
[23:13] <bibleboy> idk i am new to ubuntu 11.04 i have only used 10.10
[23:13] <BlaDe^> scsi10: usb-storage 2-2:1.0 --- but no mount
[23:13] <Tomas> would do you speak russian?
[23:14] <bibleboy> could some1 answer me
[23:14] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, well, that's a start, mounting is the next step. Please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[23:14] <Tomas> (((
[23:14] <Tomas> I must learn english(
[23:14] <bibleboy> yes u must
[23:14] <tyler_d> does anyone know how to get tray icons to show?
[23:15] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon http://pastie.org/1862149
[23:15] <Tomas> use ubuntu classic man))
[23:15] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:15] <Tomas> would do you like 11.04 ?
[23:16] <bibleboy> hmm let me think xsinick
[23:16] <Tomas> in russia people dont like unity)) and many people back to 10.10 or 10.04
[23:16] <Glycan> Hello
[23:16] <Tomas> hello
[23:16] <Geoffrey2> is Gnome 3 even an option in Natty, or does that need to be installed manually from source?
[23:16] <BlaDe^> Tomas just use Ubuntu Classic
[23:16] <histo> Tomas: if you don't likie unity you can run classic mode rather than switching back to 10.10
[23:16] <BlaDe^> Geoffrey2 it has to be done manually
[23:17] <consolecowboy> xsinick: if the application is in the menu, you can right click and 'add this launcher to desktop'
[23:17] <Glycan> I'm trying to make an liveCD, but the save to thing doesn't work to the cd I put in.
[23:17] <consolecowboy> i think
[23:17] <histo> Geoffrey2: from ppa
[23:17] <histo> Geoffrey2: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[23:18] <bibleboy> for the live cd try just burning the ubutnu iso to a cd. thats the way i made my live cd im running right now
[23:18] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, Hmm, I see...the device gets detected, as usb-storage even, but it does not even show up on the list of all partitions (both mounted and unounted) :-S
[23:19] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, unounted => umounted
[23:19] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon so what's the next step?
[23:19] <Glycan> I can't find the cd to burn to.
[23:19] <Glycan> U doesn't see it.
[23:19] <uwex> anyone knows some good organizer/planer? not devolution
[23:19] <RavenHursT> ok.. I remember doing this somehow.. but I have a script that has a `mysql -u someuser -e 'execute this'; in it.. but I can't remember how to set up someuser to be allowed to run mysql commands w/o a password... had something to do w/ adding "NOPASSWORD' to some conf file or something.. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[23:19] <bibleboy> Can I install Ubuntu from the Wubi on my Ubuntu installation cd without using internet.
[23:19] <Geoffrey2> I'm going to spend a little more time playing with the current setup, but Natty feels like Ive gone to a completely new operating system
[23:20] <bibleboy> i know doent it feel like that. I want gnome back instead of unity.
[23:21] <histo> bibleboy: select classic from the session drop down on the login screen and you will have gnome back
[23:21] <Belial`> kaie, FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[23:21] <histo> !language | Belial`
[23:21] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, This could point to the possibility of a partition table that is somehow unreadable by your installation, though I admit that this is a long shot indeed...
[23:21] <bibleboy> can i do that from the livecd cause` thats what i use. I dont have natty installed anywhere
[23:21] <AlexGer> hallo, i'm installing "Zentyal" Ubuntu and get during the installation proces an errormessage. It's free translated from german..
[23:21] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's literally a brand new installation done about 3 hours ago
[23:22] <kaie> I really can't believe that. netbook with 10.10. it worked fine for a long time. yesterday it went to sleep. I woke it up, it came up, then it crashed. after reboot, I find that then contents of two partitions are totally corrupted. fsck.ext4 even says there is no ext4 filesystem on them
[23:22] <skybound> consolecowboy: i see; didn't know snippits, that actually worked? i don't know about any such program, sorry
[23:22] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, is the HDD encrypted in any way, like with Bitlocker or something similar?
[23:22] <konata> Hey, I'm trying out the cloud demo online
[23:23] <AlexGer> Could'nt find an installable Kernel in the APT-Sources
[23:23] <konata> Is that time remaining thing there just for looks?
[23:23] <sponzor> hi i have a "trojan.exe" and i want to see the source code of exe file.. is there any program in linux that can help me?
[23:23] <konata> It hasn't moved or changed since I logged in
[23:23] <Geoffrey2> my big issue right now is that, on my desktop with an external monitor, dmesg output is total garbage.....
[23:23] <Belial`> kaie, you still using elementary?
[23:23] <bibleboy> hmm try reinstalling ubuntu kaie. u may have 2 start using 11.04
[23:23] <kaie> bibleboy, my data partitions are gone
[23:24] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon nope it's not
[23:24] <bibleboy> um make an installation cd and repartition from the installer
[23:25] <consolecowboy> skybound: yeah, i found snippits in lifehacker, became one of my favourite apps, very simple, a little buggy, no longer developed, ruby. but couldn't install because i can't seem to upgrade rubygems. i could try harder to do this, but i figured i might try to write my own version
[23:25] <bibleboy> youll lose everything though
[23:25] <Geoffrey2> I run dmesg | more, and all I get is screen after screen of error messages
[23:26] <AlexGer> hello, i'm installing "Zentyal" Ubuntu. During the installation process i receive the following errormessage. (free translated from german..)
[23:26] <AlexGer> Could'nt find an installable Kernel in the APT-Sources
[23:26] <kaie> bibleboy, I know how to start from scratch, but I wonder if that is a known problem. I can't believe going to sleep and wakeup can delete all my partitions
[23:26] <Superstar_> How do I make the command line ssh send keep alive packets? I keep getting disconnected
[23:26] <bibleboy> probably not.
[23:26] <glycan_> Hello
[23:27] <bibleboy> U may have gotten one of the RARE linux viruses
[23:27] <Froq__> UndiFineD: so if they have been able to make the pixel changes always fit the TCP frame, why is it never refreshing as I move my mouse over the frame?
[23:27] <Froq__> Anyone know why VNC is unusable in 11.04?  It worked fine for me in 10.04
[23:27] <bibleboy> I need this ? answered now. can i install wubi from the wubi on my ubuntu 11.04 installation cd without an internet connection.
[23:29] <bibleboy> :)
[23:30] <KM0201> bibleboy: why not just properly partition your drive, and install it from a cd?
[23:30] <bibleboy> i dont want to lose windows
[23:30] <Lachezar> Hello people... I am having problems with Unity: I get many visual deffects, including stripes, white zones, etc.
[23:30] <KM0201> bibleboy: you won't lose windows if you pay attention..
[23:30] <Lachezar> My video: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[23:30] <Stereocaulon> What has taken the place of /var/log/messages in Natty? I'm trying to monitor hardware changes, like the insertion of an USB stick.
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: honestly, in my experience, you run a bigger risk of something happening to windows with Wubi,l than a "normal" dual boot system
[23:31] <bibleboy> I want to do wubi so i can get rid of it easy
[23:31] <raichlea> hi all, I installed samba on natty and it wants 'the administrative password'.. it doesn't like mine and I don't know the root one.  What can I do?
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: just don't say i didn't warn you.. removing wubi is often problematic.. been there.. wn't do it again, its much easier to remove a "normal" ubuntu install.
[23:31] <bibleboy> ive used wubi before so i want to use it again
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: wel, good luck.
[23:32] <bibleboy> ive done it before no problem
[23:32] <KM0201> bibleboy: and i've done it multiple times, w/ several problems.. so.. i guess we just have different experiences
[23:32] <bibleboy> I use an uninstaller program to uninstall
[23:32] <skybound> consolecowboy: yes, sounds like a neat idea (reminds me of the plan9 editor/wm?); if the last-typed-word was already in the xclipboard it would be easy, getting it there seems to be the trick; you might want to try some xlib-programming related chan?
[23:32] <bibleboy> what windows did you use
[23:33] <bibleboy> well i had one problem
[23:33] <bibleboy> i didnt have enough space on my HD
[23:33] <bibleboy> but that was it
[23:33] <consolecowboy> skybound: right, thanks, i'll see what i can find
[23:33] <bibleboy> nothing other
[23:33] <bibleboy> so i guess ill just try
[23:34] <bibleboy> see ya
[23:34] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon --- it shows up in lsusb too
[23:34] <BlaDe^> Device 069: ID ....... <model/version/etc>
[23:35] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, yes, so it should, it registers even as an usb-storage device. I'm grinding my brains here why it does still not show up in sudo fdisk -l
[23:35] <BlaDe^> ill reboot and test
[23:35] <BlaDe^> all I want to do is move a file from one laptop to another
[23:35] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, don't please test the following first...
[23:36] <BlaDe^> it's gonna take 6 hours via wifi
[23:36] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's already rebooting
[23:36] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, Yes, that would be silly indeed.
[23:36] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, you are chatting on a different computer than the one you are debugging, right?
[23:37] <pooltable> hi
[23:37] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon yes
[23:37] <pooltable> is any one use ing the new unity thing?
[23:37] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's just booted up, nothing has been plugged in yet
[23:37] <belak> Is there a way to remove memtest and the recovery kernel from the boot menu?
[23:39] <coz_> belak,  memtes can be "not shown"  from sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[23:39] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, I'm trying to compare the behaviour of a USB pen drive/ card reader to your WD Passport drive, to see what step is missing (shown in the syslog) There must be something different there, so that we can concentrate on the process that does not follow through.
[23:39] <bastidrazor> coz_: gksudo :)
[23:40] <coz_> belak,  if you open that file... near the middle of the list,, you will see several lines starting with "#Uncomment".
[23:40] <belak> Ah, ok
[23:40] <belak> Thanks!
[23:40] <coz_> belak,  read them carefully to see what options you have by Uncommenting any of the lines
[23:40] <beanstalk> How do I remove or unhold "held packages?" It's preventing me from upgrading
[23:40] <bastidrazor> !pin | beanstalk
[23:40] <bastidrazor> beanstalk: this tells how to unpin them, too
[23:40] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: thanks, I'll take a look
[23:41] <belak> I see disable_recovery bit I don't see anything for memtest
[23:42] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: except it doesn't say how to find out which packages are being held. do you know how to do that?
[23:42] <coz_> belak,   mm I thought there was one for that,, well.. probably the best thing to do is go to the #grub channel as well
[23:43] <coz_> belak,  between the two channels ,, someone should have a good solution with grub2... i am not an expert with it yet
[23:43] <belak> Ok, thanks
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> belak, in /etc/grub.d "sudo chmod -x 20_memtest86+"
[23:44] <belak> Ah, I just set 20_memtest -x
[23:44] <coz_> belak,  there is a little utility name  "grub-customizer"  I have NOT tested it at all   will try now
[23:44] <belak> ZykoticK9: nice timing. :P
[23:44] <beanstalk> How do I find out which packages on my system are being held?
[23:45] <coz_> belak,   just in case you want to test it as well    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43471/how-to-configure-the-linux-grub2-boot-menu-the-easy-way/
[23:45] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, in your /var/log/syslog, the attachment of your drive should show up right after you connect it. You can follow the running additons to syslog  with tail -f /var/log/syslog
[23:46] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, please excuse my spelling. It's all over the place: additons => additions.
[23:46] <bastidrazor> beanstalk: what makes you think packages are being held back? pinning is a manual step, it isn't something that automatically happens.
[23:47] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: I can't upgrade my system and a message pops up saying that an error is being caused likely by held packages
[23:47] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, I will be hitting the hay in about a quarter of an hour, so there is a high probability that someone else has to pick up where I left you.
[23:47] <beanstalk> I found a forum post saying that if I remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, but I don't know if that'll be bad for my system; how can I tell if the package is being used?
[23:47] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon no problem hold on while I go through that
[23:48] <belak> There's an abi change with nouveau... and there's a different package that I think needs to be installed?
[23:48] <gedO> Hi guys. I have one little problem. I'm unable to install gnome tweak tool
[23:48] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon usbcore says it registered new interface driver ums-cypress
[23:49] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it says eery few seconds:
[23:49] <BlaDe^> reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[23:49] <BlaDe^> said that 4 times
[23:49] <BlaDe^> then, scsi 6:0:0:0 Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
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[23:50] <Topy44> hi, how can i turn off flow control for a serial port for wine? the software i am using in wine doesnt have settings for it
[23:50] <Baram> I just updated (10.04 64bit) after being gone for a while (175 updates) and I know a new version of both firefox and chrome were in there, now I cannot type Korean in either (but can in all other programs)
[23:50] <Osmodivs> Hello. Ok, so I sudo chmod in a /usr/share/amsn folder so I could drag and drop some files to /amsn/skins folder, but nowm the /usr/share/amsn folder does not have a lock icon, but inside that folder, ALL of the files have a lock icon. Is there a way to undu this?
[23:50] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon did you see that, above all the spam?
[23:50] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, That reset is not good.
[23:50] <BlaDe^> any ideas what would cause it ?
[23:51] <Osmodivs> I sudo chmod 7777
[23:51] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, my first suggestion would still be lack of power, even though Windows will be able to use it just fine.
[23:51] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon this is a different HDD now
[23:51] <BlaDe^> has its own power supply -- it's a caddy. just foudn it
[23:51] <BlaDe^> the last one is probably lack of juice as you said
[23:52] <BlaDe^> was a passport drive so entirely usb powered
[23:52] <gedO> Hi. I have problem installing gnome tweak tool
[23:52] <gedO> How I could fix this?
[23:52] <kevin_> Osmodivs, you need to use a -R to recurse subdirectories if you want everything under /amsn to take on the new properties
[23:52] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so this output is registered with another drive ?!
[23:53] <BigMig> I just updated to Natty Narwal yest from the last version using the updater and i all i see is flashing icons and cannot do anything?
[23:53] <BigMig> can i fix somehow
[23:53] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon yeah
[23:53] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon the first one was a 250GB passport drive, nice and portable, wasn't detected AT ALL so likely power issue
[23:54] <BlaDe^> second one is a SATA caddy with its own power supply, is picked up displays in lsusb and gives those errors above.. Doesn't mount.
[23:54] <multipass_> How do i install a .bin file? I have adobe reader file for linux which is .bin
[23:54] <Osmodivs> kevin_, Like: sudo chmod 7777 -D /usr/share/amsn
[23:54] <OerHeks> gedO, gnome tweak tool for gnome 3 ? >> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeTweakTool
[23:54] <BlaDe^> multipass_ ubuntu has a pdf reader already
[23:54] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so that external drive, having lots of power, still won't connect? OK, prepare for a simpleton question. Ready?...Did you use the same *cable* when connecting your HDD under Windows as under Natty?
[23:55] <multipass_> BlaDe^, yeah.. wish i could use it, but the work i do needs these special comment things etc
[23:55] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon heheh yeah, I only have one usb cable :)
[23:55] <sparrW> can't be the only one who's asked... How do I get a taskbar back in 11.04?
[23:55] <bastidrazor> bean_: type apt-cache policy ...the last line will say Pinned packages::     and thus list them
[23:56] <Kyle__> multipass_: are you talking about a bin and cue file?
[23:56] <Stereocaulon> multipass_, a .bin file can be executed if you give it executable rights. Before that I would *highly* recommend that you run it through file to see if it is indeed a Linux ELF binary or similar.
[23:57] <Jordan_U> multipass_: Do *not* try to install Adobe reader that way.
[23:57] <multipass_> the file is "AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i486linux_enu.bin"
[23:57] <multipass_> ah ok, :b
[23:57] <BigMig> I updated Ubuntu using the updater from the last verision to Natty Narwal and after update all I see is flashing icons and cant do anything. I'd perfer not to have to downlaod the lice cd and reinstall that way, can anybody point me in the right direction
[23:57] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, is your mouse a plain vanilla mouse, or is it a gaming mouse which lots of thingamabobs?
[23:57] <Kyle__> multipass_: 1, you can install adobe reader through apt-get, and maybe even the software center
[23:58] <Jordan_U> multipass_: Open Ubuntu Software Center and search for Adobe Reader.
[23:58] <multipass_> yeah you are right, thanks... idk why i didnt try that first
[23:58] <Kyle__> multipass_: 2, the only reason to use adobe-reader is if you need to fill out PDF forms.
[23:58] <multipass_> Kyle__, i had trouble selecting and copying text with the default app
[23:58] <multipass_> is that possible?
[23:58] <Angelic> I can't connect to wireless for some reason -- however it shows the wireless networks but the wireless networks that I want to connect to are grayed.
[23:58] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon mouse isn't plugged in
[23:58] <BlaDe^> only used it to test the port
[23:59] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, You see...I'm clutching at straws here O_o
[23:59] <soreau> Guys my natty wont load ubuntu classic session. It worked the first time, but since I switched to 'ubuntu' and back to 'classic ubuntu', now all sessions load unity regardless. How can I fix it?
[23:59] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon no problem. It's getting late now, I'll copy it via wifi overnight.. 6 hours.. lol
[23:59] <Kyle__> multipass_: I don't know, that's not something I've had to do much.  You can try using pdf2text or pdftotext (both should be avialable) to get text out.
[23:59] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon thanks a lot for your help! Appreciate it
[23:59] <silvertip257> Hello, I'm attempting to PXE boot live CDs for Ubuntu-based distros.  I have PXE (DHCP+TFTP) and NFS working.  Problem arises as NetworkManager changes the interface and disconnects the NFS share (client).  I have not yet been able to get a Fedora live CD to boot as well.


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[15:01] <bandali> whoops i somehow didn't see the one you prepared for noble :) sorry
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