[05:43] <kkerwin> Afteraffekt, Both server and client have a unix user of the same name. I have also used smbpasswd to add them as samba users.
[05:43] <Afteraffekt> lorph, dedicated servers dont usually have dedicated graphics cards that eat ram lol - unless its a home made dedi server, then you need to set the bios up to reflect that
[05:43] <Squall5668> EpicCyndaquil try disabling enabled compiz mods one by one, see which one fixes your problem and look at its settings later
[05:43] <Afteraffekt> kkerwin, have you changed the permissions in samba for that user
[05:43] <kkerwin> Afteraffekt, Ok. I guess not. How can I do that?
[05:44] <lorph> Afteraffekt: well mine does :P
[05:44] <lorph> Afteraffekt: it seems to have a radeon 3000
[05:44] <Afteraffekt> in administrator, go to samba settings and go to user
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> lorph: you may cause a POST error if you disable the onboard video. Systems MUST have a video BIOS to pass POST. Just set the video RAM as low as it will go
[05:44] <EpicCyndaquil> Squall5668: it was like this when I installed Ubuntu. I think it's a Unity thing
[05:44] <kkerwin> Afteraffekt, Mmm ... how can I do it via the CLI, please?
[05:44] <Afteraffekt> as far as compiz, its usually in rotate cube under rotate to cube wuth window
[05:45] <kkerwin> Afteraffekt, The server does not have an xserver.
[05:45] <Afteraffekt> kkerwin, im not sure honestly
[05:45] <Squall5668> EpicCyndaquil 11.04 is not supported here, goto #ubuntu+1
[05:45] <Afteraffekt> check the site
[05:45] <mick_laptop> can someone help me w/ starting an application on casper login?
[05:45] <EpicCyndaquil> I asked there too, thought it was general though, my mistake
[05:45] <mick_laptop> i'm trying to figure out is there something like /etc/skel for casper?
[05:46] <kkerwin> Afteraffekt, Quick question though. Why would a samba user local to the server be able to write to a share mounted over samba, while a remote client wouldn't be able to? Is it a problem with the client setup then?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: because you have authenticated as the user on the system which has write access
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: try running:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: when you connect you can use the password to authenticate
[05:47] <Afteraffekt> ActionParsnip, said it right
[05:47] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip, Am I running this on the server, or on the client?
[05:47] <Afteraffekt> server
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: on the server
[05:47] <kkerwin> ok
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: you can tell windows and linux clients to remember the credentials
[05:47] <Afteraffekt> thanks ActionParsnip you saved me a google search
[05:47] <EpicCyndaquil> AH, Squall5668, it was "Static Application Switcher"
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Afteraffekt: i'm not bad with samba sharing. I do all mine in cli though
[05:48] <Afteraffekt> its easier really
[05:48] <Squall5668> Glad you found it
[05:48] <Afteraffekt> and much faster
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Afteraffekt: very
[05:48] <Afteraffekt> im not even using ubuntu as my distro
[05:48] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip, That didn't work.
[05:49] <milamber> kkerwin: what is the output of: service smbd status   ?
[05:49] <bloopletech> actually while we're on the samba topic, I've got a pretty bog-standard samba setup to share partitions over the local network - if you type \\<comp name>\ into the location bar in windows it works, but the comp doesn't come up in the list in explorer. Is there a setting I'm missing in samba to make my machine 'discoverable' or whatever?
[05:50] <kkerwin> milamber, The server is not an ubuntu box. The service command was not found. The server is a pogoplug, which is an embedded linux.
[05:50] <Macer> setfacl -d -m mask:027 /mnt/Storage/
[05:51] <Macer> that doesn't work :(
[05:51] <Macer> 007 works though
[05:51] <Squall5668> Macer: still looking for it?
[05:51] <Macer> Squall5668: yeah
[05:51] <Macer> using setfacl kind of works
[05:51] <Macer> i was able to change the acl mask to 007
[05:51] <Macer> but i want that specific dir to be 027
[05:51] <andycc> Might be an obvious question, but if I set up a Xen hypervisor on my laptop and install Ubuntu as a domain, what kind of problems will I run into? (performance loss/failure to suspend?)
[05:51] <Macer> but it won't let me use the 027 umask for some reason
[05:53] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip, Got anything for me?
[05:54] <kkerwin> bloopletech, Wish I could help. :-)
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: thats all I know. i always edit smb.conf and you can change who has what access there, dead handy for setting up new shares via ssh
[05:55] <bloopletech> kkerwin: np, really I sohuld be worrying about getting a gigabit router so I can copy files a lot faster
[05:56] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip, Mind if I pastebin my smb.conf for you? maybe it's a problem in there?
[05:57] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip, If you don't mind: http://pastebin.com/RdUjJx6N
[05:59] <espierre> hello
[05:59] <Squall5668> kkerwin could you state your problem again?
[05:59] <kkerwin> Squall5668, Sure.
[05:59] <kkerwin> Howdy. I'm looking for some help mounting a Samba share as read-write. Currently, I am only able to mount it as read-only. While logged into the Samba server, I am able to mount the share read-write. But on a remote client, I am able to mount as read-only.
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: does this link work: https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Linux/smb.conf?touch=O3S8CQ%3D%3D&w=f828757d
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: all you need are the bottom sections. Notice how I have allowed users and such, I also specified it as writable as well as not read only
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: failing that: http://pastebin.com/QvFxbEiL
[06:02] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip, Ok. Let me try some of the things that you have here ...
[06:03] <aroman> hi, how can I downgrade compiz to maverick's vesion on Natty? thanks
[06:04] <Squall5668> aroman 1)natty is not supported here, goto #ubuntu+1 2) i recommend you don't do that since unity relies HEAVILY on compiz
[06:05] <aroman> Squall5668: yeah, but its also extremely buggy/freezy on my laptop (sandybridge, intel graphics)
[06:05] <aroman> and I guess I figured I'd try here since it's coming out in like a day :P
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> aroman: natty isn#'t supported here
[06:05] <Afteraffekt> aroman id recommend Ubuntu 10.10 then
[06:05] <Squall5668> on login screen use "ubuntu classic" aaaand im going offtopic
[06:05] <aroman> Afteraffekt: right, but I need natty's kernel
[06:06] <jimcake_> i got the livecd in virtualbox, xubuntu 11.04. it says other. i click there and it asks for username and then password. does anyone know what it is? thx!
[06:06] <Afteraffekt> I dont see why, but as mentioned, off topic here
[06:06] <aroman> unless someone here could tell me how to get natty's kernel and version of xorg running on Maverick
[06:06] <aroman> Afteraffekt: because of graphics, wifi, and sound driver :)
[06:06] <Afteraffekt> should do fine in 10.10
[06:07] <jimcake_> i need the username password for ubuntu or xubuntu livecd
[06:07] <Squall5668> aronman: <Squall5668> on login screen use "ubuntu classic" aaaand im going offtopic
[06:07] <aroman> i'm speaking from experience here
[06:07] <Squall5668> jimcake_ ubuntu livecd has no password
[06:07] <aroman> Afteraffekt: I know for a fact that my laptop's card isn't supported; it's like 2 months old
[06:07] <jimcake_> xubuntu livecd is asking for username password
[06:07] <Afteraffekt> There hasnt been a new graphics card in a while
[06:08] <Afteraffekt> jimcake_, just hit enter
[06:08] <Squall5668> xubuntu is at #xubuntu though :0
[06:09] <Afteraffekt> aroman, if i can boot ubuntu 5.10 on my laptop, yours should work with 10.10
[06:10] <aroman> Afteraffekt: of course it boots, but I don't have wifi or 3D drivers
[06:10] <Afteraffekt> then install them?
[06:10] <aroman> i'm not making this stuff up; I have both tried it personally and read the release notes for the .38 kernel.
[06:10] <mick_laptop> my new laptop (got it a few hours ago) - has 3d drivers and wifi - np :D
[06:11] <frustro> So I've seen a few vids of MIDI to FDD music, but I just saw a vid that used 4 FDD.  The only way that I know how to do that is with a win32 app.   My question is: Is there someway to make MIDI to FDD on ubuntu?
[06:12] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip, Not working. Claims to have a bad network name. Here's my smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/D0tDjNx0
[06:12] <Acid190> I have an issue when someone get a min. thanks
[06:12] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip, More specifically, I can't even mount the share.
[06:12] <kkerwin> Acid190, Go ahead and ask your question.
[06:13] <kkerwin> Acid190, When someone is available, they will do their best to answer.
[06:13] <Acid190> I have a java chat applet that is not loading
[06:14] <frustro> Acid190, java -version from terminal please.
[06:15] <Acid190> java version "1.6.0_20"
[06:15] <Acid190> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.9.7) (6b20-1.9.7-0ubuntu1)
[06:15] <Acid190> OpenJDK Server VM (build 19.0-b09, mixed mode)
[06:16] <frustro> Is the app public? can I replicate? I have the same environment as you.
[06:17] <allorder> Acid190: question in one line
[06:17] <Acid190> allorder: what?
[06:17] <alex__> hey is there any way to move the sidebar location in ubuntu 11.04?
[06:18] <allorder> Acid190: ask your question in one line
[06:18] <alex__> can you move the ubuntu 11.04 sidebar to the bottom
[06:18] <alex__> of the screen
[06:18] <rww> alex__: #ubuntu is for supported versions of Ubuntu only. Please use #ubuntu+1 for natty until it's released (probably on the 28th). Thanks!
[06:18] <Squall5668> alex__ no idea really but ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:18] <diaoer> alex:#ubuntu+1
[06:19] <alex__> k
[06:26] <diaoer> hi folks! is anyone can teach me english?
[06:26] <rww> diaoer: try ##english
[06:26] <diaoer> ok,thank you rww
[06:26] <Squall5668> O_O
[06:35] <Macer> well.. setfacl works
[06:35] <Macer> :) it's awesome
[06:35] <Macer> and i used to hate acls
[06:36] <Macer> i'm curious if i can set an acl flag on an nfs in fstab
[06:37] <dsathe> wat time is the release ?
[06:37] <dsathe> UTC ?
[06:37] <rww> dsathe: there is no set time
[06:37] <dsathe> kk
[06:37] <tehitguy> hey can someone help me? I'm having trouble with audio on my ubuntu 10.10 install. I have an asus p7p55d e pro motherboard that uses a VIA audio chipset. any suggestions?
[06:38] <alex__> is there any way to make my persistent file size larger than 4gb on liveusb?
[06:38] <dsathe> tehitguy: u need to probably install alsa/linux firmware and/or add module opts to modprobe
[06:38] <ja660k> hey all
[06:38] <rww> alex__: no
[06:39] <rww> alex__: it's maxed at 4GB due to restrictions of the filesystem used on the liveusb
[06:39] <alex__> rww: i'm trying to make a bootable external hard drive. what should i do?
[06:39] <rww> alex__: run the Ubuntu installer from somewhere else and install to the hard drive, maybe. I haven't tried it, but it might work.
[06:39] <ja660k> where can i find a a list of current connections made, both in and out?
[06:39] <alex__> rww: i did that, but the hard drive doesnt boot
[06:39] <dsathe> firewall
[06:40] <rww> alex__: no idea, then
[06:40] <dsathe> if u want a easy iface
[06:40] <Squall5668> alex__ try remastersys, i made my whole system a live usb :)
[06:40] <dsathe> use firestarter gui in software center
[06:40] <alex__> squall5668: how much persistent file space?
[06:41] <Squall5668> can't say i checked
[06:41] <dsathe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[06:41] <djr013> <3 fsck.ext4...saved all my music today from the evil ecryptfs-setup-swap
[06:41] <Squall5668> alex_ but if you can make your current system with w
[06:41] <Squall5668> alex_ but if you can make your current system with w\e packages you have, why would you need more? :)
[06:42] <dsathe> try this should be your ans ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[06:42] <djr013> Anyone know if /etc/crypttab supports UUID/LABEL instead of /dev/sda#
[06:42] <alex__> squall5668: i have an 80gb hard drive and want to make the most of it
[06:42] <dsathe> srry https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[06:43] <alex__> is there any way to increase persistent file size on liveusb?
[06:43] <tehitguy> so who all is excited for the release? :)
[06:43] <dsathe> :D
[06:43] <dsathe> its god
[06:43] <alex__> tehitguy: i got the beta
[06:43] <dsathe> finally stable
[06:43] <rww> #ubuntu-release-party is ;P
[06:43] <Squall5668> tehitguy join #ubuntu-release-party :)
[06:44] <dsathe> i m on it since past 3 months
[06:45] <tehitguy> i'm glad they finally got the bugs worked out. i tried it on my laptop a couple of months ago, and it gave me some rude gestures :P
[06:46] <Blac_k_night> A friend of mine told me that unity is a shell that will be on top of gnome 3 instead of gnome shell is that right?
[06:46] <diaoer> be on top of gnome2
[06:46] <diaoer> i think
[06:46] <Squall5668> no gnome 3 sorry :)
[06:46] <rww> Blac_k_night: GNOME 2 for this release, but yes.
[06:47] <Blac_k_night> diaoer: what's the problem with gnome 3?
[06:47] <rww> Blac_k_night: There wasn't enough time between GNOME 3 release and 11.04's release to QA all of the changes.
[06:47] <diaoer> i looks not so Beautiful
[06:48] <David_HII> i need some help in figuring out why sendmail is refusing connestions from <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:48] <rww> Blac_k_night: it's slated to be in 11.10, apparently.
[06:48] <diaoer> i think there still have many bugs in unity
[06:49] <rww> diaoer: so do I. but we should move this to #ubuntu+1 :)
[06:49] <Squall5668> yeah :P
[06:49] <Blac_k_night> criticism goes around this gnome 3 thing
[06:49] <diaoer> heh,yes
[06:50] <Blac_k_night> rww: I've read alot of people don't like it
[06:51] <Decision> hello
[06:53] <Decision> anyone alive
[06:53] <nastjuid> yes
[06:53] <Squall5668> i believe i am
[06:53] <diaoer> yes
[06:53] <Blac_k_night> yDecision yea I'm with you
[06:53] <Blac_k_night> Decision:  with you
[06:54] <David_HII> Apr 27 00:41:15 humphryes sm-msp-queue[21469]: p3R5e2ZE021469: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=31733, relay=[<IP_ADDRESS>] [<IP_ADDRESS>], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[06:54] <Decision> Blac_k_night:  so im looking to join the linux world
[06:55] <Decision> was gonna go ubuntu
[06:57] <RavenHursT> hello?
[06:57] <nastjuid> Decision: sweet, good move
[06:58] <nastjuid> RavenHursT: HI!
[06:58] <RavenHursT> Anyone here willing to give me a hand w/ getting email working on my VPS...?
[06:58] <nastjuid> Decision: I've used many different distributions, and settled with Ubuntu for many reasons
[06:58] <eloystebam> spaek spanish
[06:58] <nastjuid> RavenHursT: you have a virtual server provider and are trying to set up an email server so you can retrieve email from the vps?
[06:58] <Squall5668> !spanish
[06:58] <bazhang> !es | eloystebam
[06:59] <Decision> nastjuid:  well i use linux technically ( ANdroid Addict)
[06:59] <RavenHursT> nastjuid:  so that I can send and recieve.. yes
[06:59] <Decision> nastjuid:  so im just quite confused on how exactly to install it once i do the live cd
[06:59] <nastjuid> Decision: sorry, 1 sec, switching foreground/background black on white is killing my eyes
[06:59] <RavenHursT> receive*
[06:59] <Decision> and how to install the wireles driver
[06:59] <nastjuid> ok better
[07:00] <Decision> nastjuid:  i have a Toshiba Satellite L655D-S5151 Windows 7 laptop
[07:00] <nastjuid> Decision: the 10.x livecd I believe has an option to install, but you want to make sure the wifi card is supported right?
[07:01] <Decision> i mean i have the realtek wifi driver made for linux for my device
[07:01] <nastjuid> RavenHursT: I'm not very good at setting up mail servers. I would recommend searching google for something like 'ubuntu postfix'
[07:01] <RavenHursT> nastjuid: I'm trying to get my cloudServer at rackspace up and running w/ email.. sending and receiving..
[07:01] <Decision> i just have no idea what to do with it
[07:01] <RavenHursT> nastjuid: ok
[07:02] <Decision> i thought i was suppose to just burn the iso to a cd with windows 7... i tried linux mint and it ran minus wifi because i didnt no how to install driver
[07:02] <nastjuid> by have the driver, do you mean you downloaded the archive from the manufacturer?
[07:02] <Decision> but i dont know how to safely install it and not mess up windows
[07:02] <dijonyummy> how can i configure startup applications from the command line (ie set it up)? trying for automated installs
[07:02] <nastjuid> usually ubuntu does a pretty good job of probing for a driver trhat will work with your card, but if the manufacturer provides a driver, we can probably get it to work
[07:03] <envisean> does anyone know anything about bonding in the daily of 11.04?
[07:03] <envisean> i'm having some issues getting bonding setup w/ the old configs we had for 10.04+
[07:04] <Decision> okay so i guess all i need to know is how to actually installl ubuntu to dualboot
[07:04] <djr013> envisean: For social bonding, #ubuntu-release-party, for other bonding, #ubuntu+1.
[07:04] <milamber> !dualboot
[07:04] <allorder> Decision: 90% of the time
[07:04] <nastjuid> milamber: thanks :)
[07:04] <nastjuid> Decision: follow that link. the installer is also pretty explanatory :)
[07:05] <nastjuid> Decision: if you have any trouble wtht he wifi driver specifically, head on back :)
[07:05] <milamber> dijonyummy: are you trying to install the same thing on several computing machines?
[07:05] <dijonyummy> milamber: yeah, i have a script that installs stuff, and i want to add setting up the startup apps in gnome/unity to that script if possible
[07:06] <Decision> i just already have windows on the pc so i need to find out exactly how to partition the drive
[07:06] <Decision>  i tried and could not get it
[07:06] <dr0id> what are some good IDEs for ubuntu ?
[07:06] <milamber> dijonyummy: well, see !clone or google clonezilla. not sure what you are scripting in
[07:06] <milamber> !ide
[07:07] <dr0id> are there any that could validate my html, css code ?
[07:07] <dr0id> I am using gedit and vim curently
[07:07] <nastjuid> Decision: what version of windows do you have?
[07:07] <Squall5668> dr0id: Eclipse? :)
[07:07] <dr0id> eclipse and netbeans are good ?
[07:07] <dr0id> they are slow IMO
[07:07] <dr0id> :(
[07:07] <dr0id> and heavy/bulky shall I say
[07:07] <Decision> 7
[07:07] <dr0id> I have used netbeans before
[07:08] <dijonyummy> yeah, but i want to use it for different installs, not the same machine but just the same apps, config for different ubuntu instances
[07:08] <Squall5668> dr0id: well, eclipse kinda is, but i would say that for netbeans really
[07:08] <milamber> dr0id: http://validator.w3.org/
[07:08] <Decision> nastjuid:  windows 7
[07:08] <dr0id> ok, I will get eclipse soon then, aftyer upgrading to 11.04
[07:08] <dr0id> milamber: I know about that, but I would like the IDE to do that to save time :)
[07:08] <dr0id> I mean, mac has awesome IDEs/text editors :|
[07:08] <dr0id> that really speed up dev ;)
[07:09] <Squall5668> dr0id: remember, stuff are faster on linux than windows :)
[07:09] <dr0id> yeah , hehe :D
[07:09] <dr0id> thanks, I will try Eclipse then
[07:09] <dr0id> but before that I need 2gb extra ram and 11.04 I gues
[07:09] <nastjuid> Decision: awesome. So you can either shrink the drive in the disk management tool, or you can run the CD and I believe the partitioner in the installer can resize the ntfs partition as well. Last time I used it, I just shrank it in win7 and chose the auto-partition using free space in the installer
[07:10] <dr0id> so that I can run my virtualbox properly without getting slow :/
[07:10] <Squall5668> dr0id: i have VB ubuntu with 1gb ram atm, letme check startup time on eclipse
[07:10] <dr0id> VB ubuntu ? :)
[07:11] <dr0id> I have 9.10 wiuth 2gb ram and quad core
[07:11] <milamber> !gparted
[07:11] <Squall5668> virtualbox
[07:11] <dr0id> and when I switch on virtual box things go pretty slow
[07:11] <dr0id> aah
[07:11] <nastjuid> if the partitioner doesn't make sense to you to do that, I would go ahead and resize it in windows and choose the free space option in the ubuntu installer
[07:11] <dr0id> I use virtual box for testing webpages in windows (IE) sometimes
[07:11]  * dr0id will try Ecplise then :)
[07:11] <Decision> where do i find the disk management tool and what is a good amount of space for my ubuntu??
[07:12] <Decision> nastjuid: how much free space is adequate
[07:12] <nastjuid> start, control panel, administration tools, disk management i believe
[07:12] <nastjuid> Decision: depends on what you plan to do with it. how big is your drive?
[07:12] <djr013> Decision: It depends on how much storage you want for personal storage, but the system itself rests very comfortably within 8GiB and probably much less.
[07:12] <rumpe1> Decision, 15GB for / and as much as you want for /home should be sufficient. and swap if you want to use hibernation.
[07:13] <Decision> 285 gb
[07:13] <rumpe1> Decision, on my eee even 4GB for / + /home is possible :>
[07:13] <tofufish> Is it possible to encrypt data drive in ubuntu and still make it so windows users can decrypt the data and access it via networkshares?
[07:14] <nastjuid> Decision: as you can see, there are many ways to partition after you have the space reserved
[07:14] <nastjuid> how much of your drive is free?
[07:14] <Decision> but only 208 gb left
[07:14] <nastjuid> wow so
[07:14] <nastjuid> do you think you'd want to install and play large games on your ubuntu installation?
[07:14] <djr013> tofufish: On the same machine, or a windows user accessing the machine over a network?
[07:14] <tofufish> djr013: the latter
[07:15] <djr013> tofufish: I don't see any reason why not, really.
[07:15] <tofufish> basically looking at encrypting my file server
[07:15] <stREaKer> My DVDROM is mounting in /media/ instead of /cdrom/
[07:15] <stREaKer> how can I fix this?
[07:15] <nastjuid> stREaKer: i think you can fix it in /etc/fstab
[07:15] <stREaKer> how ?
[07:15] <djr013> tofufish: The OS would decrypt it before serving it, in almost any configuration.
[07:16] <stREaKer> I tried to edit it but could not
[07:16] <stREaKer> my device is dev/sr0
[07:16] <nastjuid> looking at mine
[07:16] <nastjuid> do you have a line in there with /dev/sr0 ?
[07:16] <Decision> so i should shrink it about 50gb nastjuid ??
[07:16] <tofufish> djr013: oh true, do you recommend a method of encryption?
[07:17] <stREaKer> nastjuid: yes!
[07:17] <nastjuid> I actually don't have anything in there. I may be out of date and thinking fstab handles it. maybe dbus does these days
[07:17] <nastjuid> stREaKer: sweet!
[07:17] <stREaKer> nastjuid: I meant I dont have it there .. but my device ID is the same
[07:18] <djr013> tofufish: Well I'm not too familiar with all the options, but ecryptfs works well, and it's even an option for users' /home directories in the livecd these days, fwiw.
[07:18] <nastjuid> Decision: 50 should be pretty confortable. did you say if you were going to install windows games with wine?
[07:18] <nastjuid> stREaKer: so you don't have a line with /dev/sr0 in your /etc/fstab?
[07:18] <tofufish> djr013: awesome thanks!
[07:18] <stREaKer> no only the hard disks
[07:19] <Decision> no i dont play pc games mostly all i want is dropbox skype and googlechrome... then ill monkey around a learn more
[07:19] <stREaKer> Decision: that will get you into a lt of trouble :P am facing the same
[07:19] <Decision> stREaKer:  how so
[07:20] <Squall5668> skype and chrome work fine
[07:20] <stREaKer> Decision: I did add sources got updated to bad builds now have to revert back :P
[07:20] <nastjuid> Decision: 50G will be plenty. NTFS support is pretty good these days anyway, so you can even mount your windows partition for your music and such
[07:20] <Decision> nastjuid:  so im kind of confused on what values to put in thie dropboxes
[07:21] <stREaKer> nastjuid: I got only hard disk indexes on fstab ..
[07:21] <djr013> Decision: You can always increase it later, if you leave space unpartitioned. (Or, just as well, shrink the partitions.)
[07:21] <billy_> hello!
[07:22] <Squall5668> windows 7 support partition resize
[07:22] <milamber> stREaKer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoveMountpointHowto
[07:22] <eckirchn_> Squall5668: and linux does
[07:22] <Squall5668> i know, just saying so he won't be worried
[07:22] <djr013> GParted works very well for resizing NTFS.
[07:22] <Squall5668> XP used to be jumpy if you didn't chkdsk afterwards
[07:22] <Decision> nastjuid: im gonna send a screen shot to see if you know exactly what i need to change it to
[07:22] <nastjuid> stREaKer: actually. now that I think about it. when you insert a cdrom, does it not show up in the places menu?
[07:22] <eckirchn_> djr013: only done it with command line...
[07:23] <nastjuid> Decision: ok
[07:23] <billy_> any idea can i have a slackware?
[07:23] <djr013> eckirchn_: I just love the UI I guess. :3
[07:24] <djr013> eckirchn_: Moving partitions around never seemed so fun. ;)
[07:24] <billy_> any idea how can i have a slackware?
[07:24] <Squall5668> billy_: try #slackbuilds
[07:25] <Decision> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20068157/partitionig.PNG nastjuid
[07:25] <stREaKer> nastjuid: it shows up there
[07:26] <Logiar> grr
[07:26] <billy_> anyone from the philippines?
[07:27] <Logiar> my laptop really doesn't want ubuntu, it stops at syslinux without throwing any errors
[07:27] <nastjuid> stREaKer: so why were you trying to get it to mount somewhere else?
[07:27] <mbn_18> Hi, how do I add widgets to the unity top toolbar?
[07:27] <djr013> Logiar: What version?
[07:27] <stREaKer> nastjuid: cause synaptic is not recognizing it as a CDROM and am not able to source the installtion from the DVDs
[07:27] <Logiar> 3.63 I think
[07:28] <djr013> Logiar: What version of Ubuntu, I mean. :P
[07:28] <nastjuid> stREaKer: oh, try removing /cdrom and making a symlink to /mnt/dir
[07:28] <Logiar> 11.04 beta
[07:28] <bazhang> !ph | billy_
[07:28] <nastjuid> stREaKer: i mean, i'm not sure how to change the mount point
[07:28] <stREaKer> nastjuid: how to do that i really am not expert
[07:28] <rww> Logiar: #ubuntu is for supported versions of Ubuntu only. Please use #ubuntu+1 for natty until it's released (probably on the 28th). Thanks!
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !11.04
[07:29] <nastjuid> stREaKer: first rmdir /mnt/cdrom, then ln -s /cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[07:29] <nastjuid> I think
[07:29] <djr013> Logiar: I think the ubuntu.com/testing/beta page mentions that, by the way.
[07:29] <nastjuid> might be /mnt/cdrom /cdrom
[07:29] <Logiar> mentions what?
[07:29] <mbn_18> Any one know how to add widgets to the top toolbar in Natty? ( unity )
[07:30] <Squall5668> mbn_18 goto #ubuntu+1
[07:30] <nastjuid> stREaKer: ls -l / should show CDROM -> /mnt/cdrom
[07:30] <djr013> Logiar: The Syslinux problem.
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> nastjuid: ln -s source dest
[07:30] <nastjuid> ActionParsnip: thanks
[07:30] <mbn_18> Squall5668: thhx
[07:30] <nastjuid> stREaKer:  I think i'm thinking backwards too
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> :-)
[07:30] <ja660k> hey all,  im trying to run fluxbox from ubuntu server, ive installed X and flux, but i cant seem to run it properly, i try a heap of commands i found off the forums and none of them work
[07:30] <stREaKer> nastjuid: my current mount point is mount/ubuntu 10.10
[07:30] <nastjuid> stREaKer: ok. so it needs to mount at /cdrom right?
[07:31] <stREaKer> nastjuid: yes
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> ja660k: startx should do it
[07:31] <nastjuid> stREaKer: and it's mounting at /mnt/cdrom?
[07:31] <stREaKer> nastjuid: no
[07:31] <ja660k> ActionParsnip, it doesnt, i get a black screen
[07:31] <stREaKer> nastjuid: this is the path /media/Ubuntu 10.10
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> ja660k: what video chip do you have?
[07:32] <nastjuid> stREaKer: ok
[07:32] <Logiar> trying to see if unetbootin will make a difference before i ask for help
[07:33] <nastjuid> stREaKer: ok, so pop the disc in and let it mount at /media/Ubuntu 10.10
[07:33] <ja660k> ActionParsnip, nvidia geforece fx 5200
[07:33] <Decision> nastjuid: so what do i put in theenter the ammout of space to shrink in mb?
[07:33] <Macer> hm. have to remember what the normal number masks are for samba :)
[07:34] <stREaKer> nastjuid: but then Synaptic doesnt recognizes it as a source
[07:34] <nastjuid> Decision: 51000 should be fine. 50000 is good too
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Logiar: also md5 test the image so you know its good
[07:34] <nastjuid> stREaKer: that's fine, we'll fix that
[07:34] <nastjuid> stREaKer: once it shows up there, check and see if /cdrom exists
[07:34] <stREaKer> nastjuid: yea /cdrom exists but has no files in it
[07:34] <Decision> then i just hit shrink? nastjuid
[07:35] <nastjuid> stREaKer: ok, rmdir /cdrom
[07:35] <billy_> channels
[07:35] <nastjuid> stREaKer: then we'll make a link for it with ln -s /media/Ubuntu\ 10.10 /cdrom
[07:35] <stREaKer> ohk
[07:35] <stREaKer> :)
[07:36] <billy_> quit()
[07:36] <stREaKer> nastjuid: can you give me the copy of sources.list.save ?
[07:36] <nastjuid> stREaKer: yeah, then when you reopen the package manager it should think it's there
[07:36] <nastjuid> stREaKer: did you kill your sources.list? :P
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> ja660k: add: blacklist nouveau    to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf   then run: startx
[07:36] <stREaKer> nastjuid: changed the cdrom title in the course of hit and trial :P
[07:37] <Decision> nastjuid:  it put it down to 235 capacity but doesnt show the other spaced
[07:37] <PhoenixBot> Hello
[07:38] <ja660k> Actionparsnip, that didnt work :(
[07:38] <stREaKer> nastjuid: "E: Unable to stat the mount point /cdrom/ - stat (2: No such file or directory)" same error
[07:38] <nastjuid> Decision: it should show it on the same bar as unpartitioned psace or free space
[07:38] <nastjuid> stREaKer: if you cd /cdrom it shows the contents of the drive ?
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> ja660k: ok also add: blacklist nv
[07:38] <Decision> i see it :)
[07:38] <stREaKer> nastjuid: wait let me check
[07:39] <Decision> so now i burn that beta onto a dvd pop it in and install it to the unallocated space??
[07:39] <stREaKer> nastjuid: "cdrom" could not be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted. This error faced
[07:39] <HoiKeN> Should I wait for 11.04 or just go with 10.10?
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> ja660k: you may need a reboot but you should be able to rmmod both nv and nouveau before starting X
[07:40] <ja660k> ActionParsnip, still the same thing, i had it before, but i dno what command i did, i feel like ive tried them all
[07:41] <Decision> nastjuid:  i downloaded the beta iso it is bug free right considdering it releases in a couple days
[07:41] <Decision> i mean tommorrow
[07:41] <arand> !natty
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> HoiKeN: maverick will be more stable as it is more mature. Natty will be supported after maverick is eol
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Decision: officially its still unstable
[07:42] <PhoenixBot> Hello every time I try to download kvirc I get this error message "E: unable to find a source package for kvirc" does anyone know whats wrong with it?
[07:43] <nastjuid> Decision: Bug free isn't real :) But it should be mostly stable I'd assume
[07:43] <dany> hi i wanted to know how to create subdomains eg mail.domain.com(webmail) for ip <IP_ADDRESS> and domain.com (website)for <IP_ADDRESS> for different servers on my ubuntu 10.10 server
[07:43] <rumpe1> Decision, no
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> !info kvirc
[07:43] <Decision> okay so id be better off with 10.10 basically
[07:43] <rumpe1> Decision, 1. no OS is bug-free, 2. especially very new releases have usually more bugs than older ones
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixBot: make sure you have universe repo enabled
[07:44] <html_inprogress> hi
[07:45] <Decision> anyone have a torrent for 10p.10 link
[07:45] <soreau> ! torrent
[07:45] <soreau> ! torrents
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Phoenixbot: 8mb for a lowly irc client. Bit bloated
[07:45] <html_inprogress> Decision, like which one?
[07:46] <Guest10874> !p2p
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Phoenix3: 8mb for an irc client is a bloat don't you find
[07:47] <Decision> !info oovoo
[07:48] <Decision> !info skype
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> !skype
[07:50] <Phoenix3> ActionParsnip, What would you use?
[07:50] <nmvictor> I have a complication in this seemingly bigger-better operating system, as blogs would have it, Well whenever I create an adhoc wireless/wired connection to another laptop, everything works fine. However, the connection goes on and off when [shared to other computers] is enabled in the IPV4 tab under Network connections. Please help me resolve this coz I need to share my broadband connection within the home network
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> !irc
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Phoenix3: i use pidgin but its an 11 year habit
[07:51] <Phoenix3> Ahhh
[07:51] <html_inprogress> yes
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Phoenix3: if you like kvirc then use it. I was a little surprised at the size
[07:53] <Phoenix3> Ah I have never used kvirc I like to try out different scripts and clients
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Phoenix3: thats always healthy :-)
[07:54] <Phoenix3> Yup Laugh Out Loud
[07:55] <sympt0m> Hey, if I were to want to purposefully mess up my grub2 loader, so that I get the grub rescue on boot, how would I do that, and make it easily reversible? Basically I want to convince my "sub-par tech brained" peers that my computer is messed up.
[07:55] <sympt0m> I mean, I could mess it up, but if I were to want to have it easily fixed, what should I do?
[07:55] <ozan> asd
[07:55] <stREaKer> nastjuid: Finally got it working
[07:56] <sympt0m> asd...?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> sympt0m: you can boot to livecd and fix nearly everything
[07:56] <DirtyDawg> ActionParsnip: i think i met your brother once - CombatCarrot :o
[07:57] <sympt0m> Okay, so If I go in and royally f*ck up everything, how do I get it back with a livecd?
[07:57] <arand> !grub | sympt0m
[07:58] <sympt0m> thanks :D
[07:58] <arand> sympt0m: Instruction for reinstalling grub should be enough to fix mist things
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> DirtyDawg: haha you made my day (admittingly i've only been at work and now traveling home but its all good)
[07:58] <DirtyDawg> :)
[07:58] <sympt0m> That is exactly, what I was looking for, thanks arand :)
[08:02] <vooze> Anyone using gmail in evolutions?? Is it possible to sync with both gmail and google calender?
[08:03] <ircrob> can ubuntu kernel be changed to compile usb modules instead of in kernel
[08:04] <rigved> vooze: yes i am using it. both with gmail and google calender
[08:04] <vooze> do you use imap then?
[08:04] <rigved> vooze: yes
[08:05] <vooze> okay, guess i'll try it :) do you know if its possible to send mail as somthing else? like my mail is xxvooze@gmail but i send mail as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:07] <fairuz> vooze: if you own vooze.dk you can setup the mail for that domain and connect it with google mail
[08:07] <rigved> vooze: do you already have an e-mail address of that name? if not, then it's not possible via evolution.
[08:08] <botcity> vooze, just use 10minutemail
[08:08] <vooze> i do have the other mail, its just a forward though
[08:08] <vooze> its allready setup with google mail
[08:08] <rigved> vooze: yes you can then
[08:08] <Guest10261> morning
[08:08] <fairuz> morning
[08:09] <damiano> hello everybody
[08:09] <Braiam> night?
[08:09] <rigved> vooze: just configure gmail to send mail from vooze.dk and then you can send from gmail as @vooze.dk
[08:09] <gloopie> Hmm
[08:09] <Guest10261> vooze: yeah gmail allows you to configure e-mail for your own domain...
[08:11] <fairuz> vooze: This is what you looking for http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html
[08:11] <fairuz> allows you to use your own domain but using gmail's server
[08:11] <fairuz> to store emails and sending
[08:11] <damiano> hi, someone coul dinvite me on #php ?
[08:12] <vooze> rigved, Guest10261 i allready have it setup in gmail, was just wondering if evolutions supported it
[08:13] <Guest10261> vooze: well if Evolution supports it it will be called alias ... or maybe different reply-to address ... I'm using Sparrow on Mac ;-)
[08:14] <danmyleo> Away
[08:15] <rigved> vooze: never tried it that way. but i guess you need to setup the @vooze.dk e-mail in evolution as a separate account before you send mail as that user
[08:19] <equant> join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:22] <vng> Good afternoon everyone!
[08:26] <Macer> awesome
[08:28] <vng> what's the default windows manager on 11.04?
[08:28] <rumpe1> vng, unity
[08:28] <vng> rumpe1: thanks
[08:30] <roman_> hi all
[08:35] <Macer> hm
[08:35] <Macer> ran into a problem with setfacl
[08:35] <Macer> the acls do  not travel across file systems :(
[08:35] <Macer> so if i move something from the home dir to the acl the acl doesn't seem to be changing it to its default
[08:36] <ilea> i have instaled ubuntu at a friend and after i instaled the nvidia graphic card that ubuntu found by itself but i cant activate the extra visual setings to have a better desktop
[08:36] <ilea> why
[08:36] <ilea> ?
[08:36] <Ximmer> Hi I'm wanting to do s dist upgrade from Studio 10.04 and the update manager is telling me it's going to remove 17 packages including ardour, jackd etc. Anyone know what's going on there?
[08:38] <delby> hi. i would like to install ubuntu on pc with nvidia fx 5500. i found many posts about how to make it work after i have ubuntu installed, but i cant find info about how to install ubuntu on a pc with it. the installer gets stuck. is there a way i can overcome this problem?
[08:39] <rumpe1> delby, laptop?
[08:39] <delby> desktop
[08:41] <rumpe1> delby, well... there are many ways to accomplish this, but it would be a good idea to determine what is causing the problem.
[08:41] <luckybunny> Hi everyone. Moving my /home folder to another HD seems to have caused a strange problem for me
[08:42] <rumpe1> luckybunny, how did you move it exactly?
[08:42] <delby> its the nvidia card, when i put in an old card instead it goes ok. i think its because the drivers are proprietary.
[08:42] <rumpe1> delby, well...for the installation itself it uses the open drivers (afaik)
[08:43] <luckybunny> I can boot fine, but only by selecting recovery mode from the Grub menu and then selecting resume normal boot from the next menu (after it has booted)
[08:43] <delby> i think that is the problem. i am trying to avoid installing with another card and then changing to the nvidia.
[08:43] <luckybunny> if I just sit back and let it boot on its own, the display goes black and the monitor goes into standby (no input)
[08:44] <rumpe1> luckybunny, check your logs for clues ... and please answer my question :)
[08:44] <delby> is there a way to make the non-free drivers available to the installer?
[08:44] <luckybunny> these are the instructions I followed http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[08:45] <rumpe1> delby, well... i guess you could use other drivers via kernel parameters ..hm
[08:45] <ilea> i instaled ubuntu at a friend and activated the nvidia graphic card and all an i still cant select the extra graphic conviguration in visual efects
[08:45] <ilea> can somebody tell me why?
[08:45] <luckybunny> I and a couple of friends have been poring over logs for a couple of hours now, and nothing seems amiss. Indeed, the actual /home move seems to have gone down without a hitch
[08:45] <luckybunny> all settings seem to be fine
[08:46] <gabriel_> have you restarted the computer ilea?
[08:46] <Macer> grrr
[08:46] <Macer> i don't get this
[08:46] <luckybunny> the best guess is that it's not mounting the new hard drive quick enough and something doesn't like that
[08:46] <botcity> delby, have you tried the alternative live cd
[08:46] <Macer> when moving files across an nfs i want to apply the destination acl to the files
[08:46] <Macer> and it doesn't seem to be picking it up
[08:46] <luckybunny> which would explain why it works in recovery.... recovery takes longer to need everything
[08:47] <rumpe1> luckybunny, /home is possibly the last thing that is mounted... no really necessary for booting
[08:47] <Macer> anybody know why?
[08:47] <botcity> !alternative | delby
[08:47] <delby> no. dont know what is. gonna check now...
[08:47] <Macer> been looking everywhere
[08:47] <luckybunny> ah
[08:47] <ilea> yes i restarted the computer and it still dosnt work
[08:48] <Liera> !minial
[08:48] <delby> botcity: thanks. will give it a try after the release tomorrow.
[08:49] <Liera> !minimal
[08:49] <rumpe1> luckybunny, if there is really nothing useful in the logs... i would check the uuid-entries in fstab.. hm..  and maybe a filesystem-check?
[08:49] <delby> rumpe1: thanks.
[08:49] <rumpe1> luckybunny, without any error-messages it's really hard to solve problems
[08:50] <somethinginteres> hi all, I am trying to connect to my iPad through the Network using the Wifi sharing aspect of Goodreader. See: http://www.goodreader.net/gr-man-tr-wifi.html I can see my iPad in Network but I can't access it,  I'm getting the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/599649/
[08:50] <MaRk-I> ilea: did you enable the visual/extra effects already?
[08:51] <Ximmer> Hi I'm wanting to do a dist upgrade from Studio 10.04 to 10.10 but the update manager is telling me it's going to remove 17 packages including ardour, jackd etc. Anyone know what's going on there?
[08:51] <ii> Does ubuntu.com work for anyone else ?
[08:51] <Ximmer> ii, working for me
[08:51] <MaRk-I> ii: yes
[08:51] <ii> Ximmer: Does it say site offline?
[08:52] <Ximmer> No
[08:52] <izinucs> Ximmer: studio isn't supported here.
[08:52] <Ximmer> izinucs, cool, I'm in #ubuntustudio now
[08:52] <tomtit> morning all
[08:52] <gabriel_> ilea, No, but if there is more than one try installing a different one and see if that works.
[08:52] <rumpe1> Ximmer, well... if you do a dist-upgrade the packages are probably not compatible anymore to the next dist-version
[08:53] <ii> I get a drupal error "The site is currently not available due to technical problems. Please try again later. Thank you for your understanding."
[08:53] <Ximmer> rumpe1, seems odd as ardour for example is a fairly core app for a Studio dist
[08:53] <MaRk-I> ii: hmm worked first time now i got the same error
[08:54] <Ximmer> ii, saying ofline for me now too
[08:54] <ii> Wiki seems to be working though.
[08:54] <rumpe1> Ximmer, doesn't matter... after the upgrade it should be available again. But Studio!=Ubuntu ;)
[08:55] <jussi> hrm, does anyone know the character encoding needed for chinese?
[08:55] <rumpe1> jussi, utf  (e.g.)
[09:02] <B_K_N> is unity better than gnome shell?
[09:02] <rumpe1> try it
[09:02] <iceroot> B_K_N: find out yourself
[09:03] <iDope> I see that kern facility messages appear in both syslog and kern.log? How can I make it so that they appear only in kern.log?
[09:04] <B_K_N> iceroot I think new apps are buggy
[09:04] <iceroot> B_K_N: both are new
[09:05] <B_K_N> iceroot what both I think they should stick with gnome 2
[09:05] <Ximmer> rumpe1, thanks for your comments, I'll hang in #ubuntustudio for a while
[09:05] <iceroot> B_K_N: unitiy and gnome-shell are new
[09:05] <rumpe1> iDope, at first sight i would guess via /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf
[09:06] <Guest7824> hello 
[09:06] <bigMike> hi all
[09:06] <bigMike> *Shameless plug* Tableft ~ my latest creation ~ can be found in the Chrome Webstore http://bit.ly/gXY3Qd Thoughts appreciated, and do remember it's still beta xD
[09:06] <iceroot> B_K_N: but just try both, questions like "what is better" are almost useless because everyone has (luckily) different opinions
[09:08] <B_K_N> iceroot I've just read that gnome 3 is written totally different from gnome 2
[09:09] <B_K_N> iceroot in code I mean
[09:09] <DirtyDawg> does the new ubuntu use gnome3?
[09:09] <B_K_N> DirtyDawg no unity shell over gnome 2
[09:10] <iDope> rumpe1, beautiful.. thank you
[09:10] <DirtyDawg> ahh k thx
[09:11] <tomtit> oh well
[09:11] <rumpe1> B_K_N, yes... and has still much more bugs than 2
[09:11] <tomtit> ta ta
[09:11] <B_K_N> I'd like to see a company like canonical give support to apps
[09:12] <B_K_N> rumpe1: and min max buttons are gone too
[09:12] <milligan> Any rsync gurus here? I have a hard-drive that's dancing with the fat lady, and I want to copy the entire filesystem to a USB disk as a backup. What would the command be to most accurately get a copy of everything?
[09:13] <iceroot> milligan: dd instead of rsync
[09:13] <milligan> that'll copy the entire filesystem though? I was looking more to backup files, not the FS.
[09:14] <Darael> Got an irritating problem with my wifi.  For about the last 24 hours, I've been able to connect but after about five minutes it starts dropping all packets until I disconnect and reconnect.  Running a flood ping through the cycle gives (eventually) the repeating pattern "..E..............E...".  Have tried reloading kernel module for the card and restarting network-mananger - neither helped.  Ditto multiple reboots. Was thought to be RF interference, ...
[09:14] <iceroot> milligan: sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY   be VERY CAREFULL with dd  (if = input, of=output)
[09:14] <Darael> ... but changing channels (6->13) made no difference.
[09:14] <iceroot> milligan: you said the entire filesystem
[09:14] <iceroot> milligan: just for all files you rsync
[09:15] <B_K_N> iceroot not work for all systems
[09:15] <iceroot> B_K_N: what?
[09:16] <B_K_N> iceroot I tried this command and give me nothing
[09:16] <B_K_N> iceroot several times
[09:17] <milligan> iceroot, my bad. I want the files, not the filesystem.
[09:17] <iceroot> B_K_N: what command?
[09:17] <Darael> milligan: If the drive is on the blink, it may be safer to image it (using dd) and then do anything you need to with the files on the mounted image.  Just a thought, ICBW.
[09:17] <iceroot> milligan: all files? normally you only want /home and the rest will be a new installation
[09:17] <B_K_N> iceroot dd command
[09:17] <bigMike> Any one tried it?
[09:18] <iceroot> B_K_N: what command exactly you use? i guess you did something wrong
[09:18] <milligan> Darael, going to be copying everything to a USB harddrive though. Only half the physical disk is in use. A 250 GB harddrive, 100gigs used. Mirroring 150 GB of empty space on a failing disk is something I'd like to avoid :)
[09:19] <milligan> iceroot, normally, yes. I want a copy of as much as possible though. I'm replacing the failing disk etc, but I want a backup just in case.
[09:19] <B_K_N> iceroot: No I tried it several times  and got nothing
[09:19] <iceroot> milligan: have a look at clonezilla
[09:19] <iceroot> B_K_N: again, what command exactly
[09:19] <alex_mic> clear
[09:20] <iceroot> milligan: with rsync you have the problem with changing uids on the new system if you copy the whole system
[09:20] <B_K_N> dd if=input of=output
[09:20] <iceroot> B_K_N: works fine
[09:20] <iceroot> B_K_N: and bagain!!!!! what command EXACTLY
[09:20] <alex_mic> help
[09:20] <Darael> B_K_N: Works fine for me.  Have you actually examined what you put for output?
[09:21] <botcity> Darael, its only just started to happen last 24hours you say?
[09:21] <alex_mic> quit
[09:21] <Darael> botcity: Going on 36 now, actually, I wrote that line last night.
[09:21] <Darael> alex_mic: You'll need to prefix the commands with a /.
[09:21] <B_K_N> iceroot : guys the command works fine
[09:21] <iceroot> B_K_N: great
[09:21] <Darael> alex_mic: To clarify:  With the / but not the .
[09:21] <alex_mic> tHANH YOU
[09:22] <B_K_N> iceroot : but boots nothing
[09:22] <alex_mic> THANK YOU
[09:22] <iceroot> B_K_N: dding the bootsector also is a good idea
[09:23] <B_K_N> iceroot I did that for iso images
[09:23] <botcity> Darael, what have you done in the last 36 hours ? update or ?
[09:23] <iceroot> B_K_N: i think we stop it here, i asked 3 times for the exact command
[09:23] <rumpe1> B_K_N, you also should add a blocksize  (bs=5M e.g.)  ... otherwise it will be veeeery slow
[09:24] <Darael> botcity: I did think of that, but I don't /think/ so.
[09:24] <ejv> good morning, i want to perform an apt-get upgrade, but exclude a package in the list, possible with a flag/option? :)
[09:24] <B_K_N> iceroot I don't want to bother you , thanks
[09:24] <botcity> Darael, did you check your logs ?
[09:26] <CQ> ejv http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-prevent-a-package-from-being-updated-in-debian.html
[09:27] <ejv> CQ: perfect, thx
[09:28] <zepherin> I need to play a new cyberpunk game
[09:28] <DJones> !pinning | CQ: ejv This might be useful
[09:28] <botcity> Darael, maybe you could run tail -f /var/log/messages and wait for it to occur again or check your logs
[09:32] <Darael> botcity: I did try that, nothing obvious.
[09:36] <Darael> botcity: To clarify, the wireless driver is spewing a lot of stuff to /var/log/messages, but it's no different when the packets are dropping to when they aren't.
[09:38] <botcity> Darael, can you paste the messages
[09:38] <econnell> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1737870 <-- a couple of my users speak up
[09:38] <Darael> botcity: Certainly, just waiting for it to kick in so I can post from connection to drop.
[09:38] <econnell> wtf ubuntu
[09:39] <ben_q> hello, I have a problem with skype on ubuntu 10.10. on any new message, the window is highlighted on every workspace disrupting the alt+tabbing. that's very annoying if you have to work with tabbing a lot
[09:39] <ben_q> can I force skype to stay on its workspace somehow?
[09:41] <Corey> econnell: Is the issue one of needing a maintainer?  If so I'll throw my hat into that ring.
[09:41] <econnell> hell... someone even ported our stuff to freebsd and it's in their repos
[09:41] <econnell> Corey: i don't know what ubuntu requires...  it's insane
[09:43] <econnell> it's sad that a program written *ON UBUNTU* with native pulseaudio support that thousands of people use can't get into ubuntu even though the ubuntu users want it...
[09:43] <econnell> that is just mind-boggling
[09:44] <botcity> Darael, your wireless driver should not be outputting a lot of messages anyhow .
[09:44] <CQ> econnell: get it into debian first and then have it move to ubuntu maybe?
[09:45] <econnell> CQ: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609291
[09:46] <econnell> because if ubuntu's bureaucracy isn't enough... you'll really love debian!
 debian is the best
[09:47] <Darael> botcity: Warning: somewhat lengthy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/599679/
[09:48] <Younder> The release of ubuntu sheduled tomorrow. How likely is it to mess with my current settings. I have a developement pack?
[09:48] <econnell> jhf: i don't care what's best...  i just want my users to be able to easily install my softare
[09:49] <econnell> as of right now... debian and derivatives fail at this task
[09:49] <Younder> I have A feeling I should probably decline. It mostly causes a complete reinstall
[09:49] <sestobuntu> hi everyone, i need help finding a program. we are a small agency we need a lan shared program where we can store the activities for each of us and the time we spent on it. is there anything like that?
[09:49] <Younder> sestobuntu, You already have it
[09:50] <sestobuntu> Younder, really?!
 /join #windoze
[09:50] <Younder> sestobuntu, click the date thingie
 caters to idiots
[09:50] <Darael> jhf: Comments like that give us a bad name.  It's unnecessary.  Please.
[09:50] <botcity> Darael, wow thats messed up!
[09:51] <Rehan> if my ubuntu configuration works right now on my laptop, does it mean that it will work on 11.04 final when its released or will it be a case of lots of bugs fixed and lots of new bugs created?
[09:51] <sestobuntu> Younder but I also need the sum of how much time was spent on every activities, even if you start stop do something else and then go back on that activity
[09:51] <Younder> sestobuntu, It is the equivalent of outlook
[09:51] <Darael> botcity: Note that it's from 09:42:17 that it was actually dropping packets.
[09:52] <econnell> jhf: i'm not sure i understand...are you implying that since i reverse engineered windows software and built a native version for linux that I shouldn't be upset about the lack of engagement from ubuntu devs?
[09:52] <Younder> sestobuntu, You want a project management system?
[09:52] <Darael> Rehan: Any software release includes lots of bugs fixed and lots of new ones created.  That said, you are /likely/ to be absolutely fine.  Suggest trying the live CD.
[09:53] <sestobuntu> Youder, yes and a over lan shared one
[09:53] <jhf> econnell: my friend if you can't fix or answer on problem -- ..... then ..... . .   .     .       .   .
[09:53] <sestobuntu> Younder i can't find anything like that on the software center... or maybe i don't know how to look for it
[09:53] <Younder> sestobuntu,  http://trac.edgewall.org/
[09:53] <ikonia> jhf: tone it down please
[09:54] <Rehan> Darael: with 10.10 on the liveCD it makes it seem as if my display wont work at all because of some nvidia driver issues, but when when i installed 10.10 and downloaded the nvidia driver from nvidias website, it worked fine. I guess I'm asking how reliable is the test drive with a liveCD?
 thanks mom
[09:54] <sestobuntu> Youder, I check the site, thank you anyway for the help!
[09:55] <drcasper> hi guys
[09:56] <Darael> Rehan: There's occasionally problems that are only present on the live CD, but mostly it's pretty reliable.
[09:56] <Rehan> Darael: thank you
[09:56] <Nyromith> Hello. Will the support for 10.04 LTS be extended to allow buisnesses that don't want to deploy Unity continue to use ubuntu?
[09:56] <drcasper> how can y put all the info on my desktop . is that a program? that shows hard drive activity and clock and a network and a bunch of neat things :) linuz n00b
[09:56] <botcity> Darael, your firewall is interfering
[09:57] <Tm_T> Nyromith: there's still 2 years to go with 10.04, you need more than that?
[09:57] <Darael> Nyromith: I understand that there will be an option to use the GNOME desktop for that sort of reason.  It may be a little obscure (just a hunch, that) but...
[09:57] <econnell> so outside of revu and bugs.deb.... where should I be pointing people?
[09:58] <rumpe1> Nyromith, support for 10.04:  Desktop till 13.04, server till 15.04
[09:58] <Rehan> how do LTS versions work? Are the bug fixes that come in newer versions not included in the older LTS version?
[09:58] <botcity> Darael, ufw   interferers   and then no packets.
[09:58] <botcity> !ufw | Darael
[09:58] <Tm_T> Rehan: all bug fixes that can be applied to the LTS should be applied to it
[09:59] <Rehan> Tm_T: whats that mean
[09:59] <econnell> i'm sure my userbase will be happy to absolutely inundate whatever forum is needed to get mangler into ubuntu
[09:59] <Nyromith> LTS is good because only bugs and security holes are fixed, but the software is not updated. Even not firefox.
[09:59] <PDani> hi
[09:59] <Nyromith> *upgraded
[09:59] <PDani> ubuntu.com is down
[09:59] <ikonia> econnell: what is the issue you currently have, lets see if we can help
[10:00] <ikonia> PDani: it's not
[10:00] <PDani> it says for me: Site off-line
[10:00] <ikonia> PDani: it's in maintainence by the looks of it
[10:00] <econnell> ikonia: i have a software package that I've been trying to get into ubuntu repos since Dec 2009
[10:00] <Nyromith> thanks for the answers. bye
[10:00] <sebrock> got a problem: my MOTD never updates??
[10:00] <Rehan> Nyromith: ok so for example right now in 10.10 i have some hardware incompatibility with my laptop. Apparently this incompatibility is fixed in 11.04. If I was on an LTS version what would happen? Would I get the hardware fix or not?
[10:00] <ikonia> econnell: ok - what have you done to get it into the repos
[10:00] <Freeeki> morning
[10:01] <Corey> sebrock: What should it update to?
[10:01] <Freeeki> i have problems with putting my HDD to sleep
[10:01] <Tm_T> Rehan: depends on how it is fixed
[10:01] <econnell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/497854
[10:01] <Darael> botcity: Really?  But all the ufw messages are around 09:40:40, and it doesn't start dropping until 09:42:17
[10:01] <Freeeki> WD does not work at all
[10:01] <econnell> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7251
[10:01] <Freeeki> others spin up every 5 minutes
[10:01] <Tm_T> Rehan: if it requires newer version of, let's say, Linux kernel, then propably no
[10:01] <ikonia> econnell: ok - so you've logged a wishlist request, what else have you done ?
[10:01] <Freeeki> someone has a clue how to fix this?
[10:02] <Rehan> Tm_T: oh ok
[10:02] <Freeeki> hdd spins up every 5 minutes
[10:02] <Tm_T> Rehan: but I would imagine there can be some PPA or other source for such fixes if really needed
[10:02] <econnell> filed in revu... fixed issues requested by MOTU maintainers... .jumped through every hoop requested....
[10:02] <CQ> Freeeki: I don't have an answer, ut looked around for a long time as well to try and find one...
[10:02] <Rehan> Tm_T: great, thanks
[10:02] <Rehan> gotta restart, brb
[10:02] <ikonia> econnell: ok - so you've built the package and submitted it to the motu process ?
 http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=7251
[10:03] <CQ> econnell: try going to #debian-devel channel on irc.oftc.net and ask there? or the debial-devel mailing list?
[10:03] <Freeeki> damn... this is really annoying!
[10:03] <drcasper> is conky best system monitor?
[10:03] <sebrock> Corey: it ususally shows available packages, system load and stuff. But it never updates anymore.
[10:03] <rumpe1> drcasper, no, top :>
[10:03] <Younder> Freeeki, You need to set it. right click a empty display middle.
[10:03] <Darael> !best | drcasper
[10:03] <Corey> sebrock: Didn't realize Ubuntu did that.  Is there a cron job that handles it?
[10:04] <ikonia> econnell: it's a license issue, that's the issue
[10:04] <sebrock> Corey: yes I thinks so
[10:04] <Younder> Freeeki, change background
[10:04] <Freeeki> Younder: that does not work!
[10:04] <Corey> sebrock: Okay.  Is that cron job still present on your system? :-)
[10:04] <Freeeki> what background?
[10:04] <Younder> Freeeki, That is the easiest way to gain access to those settings
[10:04] <econnell> ikonia: the license issue was resolved months ago....
[10:04] <econnell> and it wasn't even an issue in the first place
[10:04] <drcasper> maan .. everytime.. snarky
[10:05] <ikonia> econnell: just reading through
[10:05] <econnell> i know.. i've read through it too... it's retarded
[10:05] <Freeeki> putting HDD to sleep with hdparm -y works tho
[10:05] <Freeeki> but -s does not work
[10:05] <Freeeki> only for wesrtern digital diska
[10:05] <Darael> drcasper: conky isn't the best, because there is no "best".  It is, however, probably the potentially-best-looking.  That, however, depends on how you configure it, and if you're new that may net be something you want to go through.
[10:06] <drcasper> thank you
[10:06] <Younder> Freeeki, ok system > adjustments powersaving
[10:06] <Freeeki> and my hdds spin up every 5 mintues
[10:06] <Younder> I have a norwegian edition so I am translating
[10:06] <Freeeki> Younder: oh.. i am on shell only
[10:07] <Maahes> anyone know how to delete gnome-panel entries in the gconf-editor? I have 5 instances of the global menu applet and its causing my panel to break, even though there's no global menu applet on my panel atm
[10:07] <econnell> the actual license distinction that is made in the last comment is also 100% ridiculous
[10:08] <ikonia> econnell: why ?
[10:08] <ikonia> econnell: it seems like reasonable requests, (I've just got to the bottom)
[10:08] <econnell> because GPL 2.0+ vs GPL 3 doesn't even matter
[10:08] <econnell> the affected source files contain the license and the license information is 100% valid
[10:08] <ikonia> econnell: it does matter to call out the correct license, and it's a trivial change
[10:08] <botcity> Darael,  sudo ufw  reset    to test will reset to the default ubuntu install but if you have it set you may want to note them etc
[10:09] <ikonia> econnell: just make the changes and submit, it will get there
[10:09] <ikonia> econnell: and on a side issue thank you for submitting, it will be a good tool to have
[10:09] <ChronicSyncope> ack
[10:09] <ChronicSyncope> my internet is down but i can still connect to freenode O_O
[10:09] <ChronicSyncope> not sure what's going on
[10:09] <WaltherFI> ChronicSyncope: essentials :3
[10:09] <econnell> no... i will do no such thing... i will not work with ubuntu until i can get a confirmation that something will actually get done.
[10:09] <ChronicSyncope> also googl
[10:09] <ChronicSyncope> efreenode and google
[10:09] <ChronicSyncope> but not reddit! ugh.
[10:10] <FloodBot2> ChronicSyncope: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <WaltherFI> !ot
[10:10] <Darael> botcity: Will try it.
[10:10] <ikonia> econnell: guess there is nothing more to be done then,
[10:10] <econnell> not unless i can find someone that can actually do something, then no
[10:10] <MeowPartition> Hai, Can someone direct me to a partitioning chat or something?
[10:11] <rumpe1> MeowPartition, just ask
[10:11] <ikonia> econnell: no point discussing it further then as the revu process is the correct process
[10:11] <econnell> so 1 year later, no one has taken any action and this is the process...yeah... again.. i give up
[10:11] <ikonia> ok
[10:12] <MeowPartition> Well, im using EASEUS Partitioning software, but im kind of lost on what to do at this point. Can i use Join.me to show you, perhaps?
[10:13] <vincenzoml> Hi there. I successfully switched yet another user to ubuntu maverick but... his UMTS usb stick gets stuck into a "disk" mode instead of behaving as a modem. That happens randomly. Any advice? That's necessary to him.
[10:16] <Darael> botcity: Just happened again, post ufw-reset.
[10:16] <sympt0m> im in deep shit now =/
[10:16] <ikonia> sympt0m: control the language
[10:16] <sympt0m> sorry
[10:17] <sympt0m> i cant seem to restore my menu.lst
[10:17] <TanLizxxx> how can i get the ip fragments? netfilter coding.
[10:17] <ikonia> sympt0m: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[10:17] <sympt0m> my laptop is dualbooted with bt4r2 and w7, and im using grub legacy
[10:18] <ikonia> sympt0m: ok - so this isn't an ubuntu issue
[10:18] <bazhang> sympt0m, backtrack is not supported here
[10:18] <DJones> vincenzoml: There's an app called usb-modeswitch that might help with solving that http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/usb-modeswitch
[10:18] <sympt0m> its a grub issue
[10:18] <celthunder> TanLizxxx: tcpdump? wireshark?
[10:18] <ikonia> sympt0m: you may want to try #backtrack-linux
[10:18] <sympt0m> ...
[10:18] <bazhang> #backtrack-linux sympt0m
[10:18] <sympt0m> yeah, but its not about bt
[10:18] <bazhang> sympt0m, sure it is. #grub if you wish
[10:18] <ikonia> sympt0m: it is
[10:18] <sympt0m> i cant get my grub to work. is there a grub channel? ive read all the help docs
[10:18] <ikonia> sympt0m: it's not about ubuntu either - so try #backtrack-linux
[10:18] <econnell> ikonia: so i just checked the svn logs... that copyright change was made on jul/23/2010 to comply with revu
[10:19] <vincenzoml> DJones: it's already installed, do you know how to troubleshoot the problem?
[10:19] <botcity> Darael, your card should not be giving that output to the messages any how .. err was that var/log/messages?
[10:19] <ikonia> econnell: send a mail to the motu guys or ask in #ubuntu-motu for a status update
[10:19] <DJones> vincenzoml: Sorry I don't, I just knew about the app, its not something I've had to use
[10:20] <kylee> I don't know if this has been asked a billion times, but will the Ubuntu site be up any time soon?
[10:20] <TanLizxxx> celthunder: No,i am coding a module.about conntrack....can i use ip_conntrack_defrag(),ip_ct_gather_frag(),etc function?
[10:20] <DJones> kylee: Its up for me
[10:20] <kylee> nevermind, back up
[10:20] <kylee> Soon as I ask
[10:21] <keinyoung> please give me a forum for learn linux thinks
[10:21] <bazhang> keinyoung, ##linux
[10:22] <vincenzoml> thanks DJones
[10:23] <Darael> botcity: Yes, it was.
[10:23] <Younder> My sound unit is not working. How do I fix it?
[10:24] <[deXter]> Get a hearing aid.
[10:24] <Younder> [deXter], seriosly, it worked yesterday and now it doesn't
[10:24] <kylee> What's with all the trolls today?
[10:25] <adsworth> Hi al, I just got a new usb keyboard that fails with generic-usb: probe of 0003:060B:0230.0002 failed with error -22 when connecting it.
[10:25] <botcity> Darael, whats the computer and ubuntu version 10.10?
[10:25] <ikonia> [deXter]: tone it down please it's uncakked for
[10:25] <ikonia> uncalled
[10:25] <Younder> [deXter], I allowed user access
[10:25] <adsworth> anyway I can force the kernel to use the keyboard module
[10:25] <adsworth> ?
[10:25] <[deXter]> ikonia: It's in good humor, Younder didn't provide any details for a sensible reply.
[10:25] <ikonia> [deXter]: then don't reply - or ask for more information
[10:26] <Younder> [deXter], I don't know if I can. I just get no response
[10:26] <[deXter]> ikonia: Relax, it was just a joke.
[10:26] <Freeeki> how can i find out what makes my HDDs waking up every 5 minutes?
[10:26] <bazhang> [deXter], wrong place for it.
[10:26] <Younder> [deXter], This is no joke
[10:26] <Darael> botcity: Running Maverick, but I don't actually know the laptop model - small (well, seemingly reasonably large, but not well-known) manufacturer.
[10:26] <[deXter]> Younder: What hardware you're using, what OS/version are you running, did you install any new updates since yesterday?
[10:26] <Corey> Freeeki: Cron?
[10:26] <Freeeki> Corey: no
[10:27] <Freeeki> Corey: no tasks there
[10:27] <[deXter]> bazhang: There's always a place for a joke mate, you just need a sense of humor.
[10:27] <Freeeki> maybe some smart utils?
[10:27] <Younder> [deXter], standard onboard sound, latest ubuntu, no installs at all
[10:27] <Corey> Could keep an eye on iotop during a spinup phase.
[10:28] <Corey> Freeeki: My approach was to not care if the drives are sleeping or not.
[10:28] <Thrawn> when i install a .deb package where does that get installed?
[10:28] <Younder> [deXter], It makes no sense to me
[10:28] <Freeeki> Corey: hahaha
[10:28] <[deXter]> Younder: Have you tried connecting an external speaker? And did you check in alsamixer?
[10:28] <Freeeki> Corey: then you dnot care abouot your money?? :-)
[10:29] <Corey> Freeeki: I don't see how it costs me more or less either way. :-)
[10:29] <Freeeki> Corey: 1 wat costs around 2 euro a year!
[10:29] <Younder> [deXter], nevermind, the fan on my powersupply has failed
[10:29] <Darael> Thrawn: It's not that simple.  Why are you trying to find out where it was installed?  Perhaps we can help you solve the actual problem :)
[10:29] <Freeeki> Corey: 1 watt that is
[10:30] <Corey> Freeeki: Power is included in my colocation.
[10:30] <Corey> 10A circuit in the rack.
[10:30] <Freeeki> okay then
[10:30] <Corey> My mistake, 40A
[10:31] <Corey> Freeeki: The machine in question also has eight spindles in it, so... :-)
[10:31] <Thrawn> darael: i installed a .deb that gives multitouch support for synatics touchpads; but im not happy with it; id like to try change the source file by myself
[10:31] <botcity> Darael, did it work again for a wile as if it started networking and then stopped
[10:31] <Corey> The laptop on the other hand is SSD, which solves that problem neatly.
[10:31] <hael> i have a question may i ask
[10:31] <Lunz> hi all i need help
[10:31] <deneb> hello! is ubuntu 11.04 daily build (27 april) stable enough as the final version tomorrow?
[10:32] <ikonia> deneb: no
[10:32] <BlouBlou> hael, Lunz: ask your questions
[10:32] <Darael> botcity: Same behaviour as before:  Connects, works for ~5 minutes (max, sometimes less) and then starts dropping all packets.
[10:32] <hael> what is the best extension format for 'exotic' filenames for linux and the best application to compile with ? exotic here is arabic
[10:32] <Thrawn> darael: but about the problem; preferences->mouse->touchpad: i can set EITHER edge scrolling or two finger scrolling; i want both
[10:32] <Lunz> i just install ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop my i cant dual buat my xp, anyone canhelp
[10:32] <hael> in archive Darael
[10:33] <Corey> !dualboot | Lunz
[10:33] <Darael> Thrawn: You'll need to obtain the source - it won't be in the binary package you installed.
[10:33] <Daghdha> Hi, i have a raid. And i want to be notified when it goes bad, is there an option in ubuntu for that? Or any disk realy, not just the raid
[10:33] <Corey> Daghdha: Software or hardware RAID?
[10:34] <Lunz> the problem is i cant boot into windows xp
[10:34] <hael> here my problem Daghdha http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1735968&page=3
[10:34] <Corey> Lunz: Have to teach GRUB about the XP partition.
[10:34] <Lunz> it doesnt have menu to choose...
[10:35] <deneb> ikonia: if i installed this build today and tomorrow have an update? could it? or it can't fetch final updates?
[10:35] <dsathe> yes
[10:35] <dsathe> zsync
[10:35] <Darael> hael: Please stop dropping random names into your request for help.  If someone knows an answer for you, they'll respond.  If not, talking to them will only annoy them and still not get you an answer.
[10:35] <dsathe> you can update the iso
[10:35] <dsathe> @ deneb
[10:35] <Daghdha> I am checking Corey
[10:35] <pindropper> i am new to using lynx, and was wondering if there was a way to search google or some other search engine directly through a command like "lynx google search-terms". Right now I have to visit google.com then type in the search phrases.
[10:35] <hael> sorry
[10:36] <Lunz> how do i edit the grub menu?i cant boot my xp
[10:36] <dsathe> pin you could use a lil script to acieve it
[10:36] <Daghdha> SOftware raid
[10:37] <pindropper> dsathe: how so? I am generally new to all this. any pointers would be great help.
[10:37] <fairuz> is libc.so is platform specific (x86, ppc, arm, ...)?
[10:37] <dsathe> yup
[10:37] <dsathe> wat u do is
[10:37] <Corey> Daghdha: cat /proc/mdstat
[10:37] <rgnr> hi all
[10:37] <dsathe> see google has a typical url say
[10:37] <Darael> dsathe: Highlights, which help people see your responses to them, won't usually activate on part-nicks.  Try tab-completing, it makes life much easier.
[10:37] <dsathe> u wanna search for  "ubuntu"
[10:37] <dsathe> roger
[10:37] <rgnr> how do i manipulate a folder from previous installation?
[10:38] <pindropper> dsathe: sure... go on
[10:38] <rgnr> when i try to access it from livecd i get permission denied
[10:38] <dsathe> one sec
[10:38] <dsathe> on chrome
[10:38] <jitaroo> hey guys im having trouble with my usb bluetooth dongle, bluetooth prefrences won't let me turn the device on
[10:38] <dsathe> http://www.google.co.in/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu
[10:38] <Daghdha> i hate ubuntu pop-up menu go straigh into selection made, drives me mad
[10:38] <dsathe> is the url for ubuntu
[10:38] <dsathe> now if u do the same
[10:39] <jitaroo> it works fine on my other ubuntu instillation
[10:39] <rgnr> hello? help pls?
[10:40] <Darael> !patience | grn
[10:40] <Daghdha> Corey : It says this http://pastebin.com/7UcHjGpq
[10:40] <step21> rgnr, you have to change ownership of the folder or access it with sudo/root priviliges
[10:40] <Daghdha> But is there any tools that monitor that and send e.g. an email when it's bad?
[10:40] <pindropper> dsathe: ...
[10:41] <step21> rgnr, to do this with nautilus, open a terminal and type "sudo nautilus" iirc
[10:41] <pindropper> dsathe: how would i write the script is what im wondering and how would i invoke it from a command line. i understand how the url params work.
[10:41] <dsathe1> parse it as url to lynx
[10:41] <dsathe1> hmm
[10:41] <red2kic> pindropper: "alias lynx-google='lynx http://www.google.com/#q=$1"
[10:41] <dsathe1> in a shell
[10:41] <rgnr> step21: how do i do it
[10:41] <red2kic> pindropper: Copy and paste that in the terminal. Try it.
[10:41] <dsathe1> say lynx 1
[10:42] <Darael> step21, rgnr: Make that "gksu nautilus" - one should use gksu instead of sudo for GUI apps.
[10:42] <rumpe1> rgnr, alt-f2, "gksudo nautilus" ...
[10:42] <pindropper> red2kic: thats awesome !!! thank you . thank you
[10:42] <rgnr> pindropper:  from livecd?
[10:42] <dsathe1> put in the phrase u are searching for
[10:42] <dsathe1> it will make the url
[10:42] <dsathe1> split the phrase by whitespace\
[10:42] <Darael> red2kic, pindropper: IIRC that # needs to be a ?.
[10:42] <red2kic> pindropper: I haven't tested it -- but you should get the idea.
[10:42] <dsathe1> join with '+'
[10:42] <step21> Darael, yes, but I'm wasn't sure what it would do on the livecd ...
[10:42] <Younder> sound fixed
[10:42] <_ryx_> Youtube displays "An error occurred, please try again later."
[10:43] <Darael> step21: Ah.  Well, for future reference, gksu works just fine on the live-cd.
[10:43] <pindropper> red2kic, dsathe1: yeah. its needs to be a ? but i do get the idea.
[10:43] <Lunz> i just install ubuntu and i cant boot my windows xp, how do i fix this?
[10:43] <dsathe1> k
[10:43] <pindropper> rgnr: from livecd? i dont understand your question.
[10:43] <CQ> econnell: the problem with debian and ubuntu is that stuff is mass processed, and DFSG compliant, that's why they're picky about such stuff, and that's why stuff needs to keep getting resubmitted until all the problems are fixed... they're dealing with thousands of packages that all have to meet the same standards
[10:44] <red2kic> Darael: http://code.google.com/web/ajaxcrawling/docs/faq.html#whentousewhich
[10:45] <rgnr> pindropper:  i mean can i run nautilus from livecd?
[10:45] <Lunz> i just install ubuntu 10.10 and i cant boot my windows xp, how do i fix this?
[10:45] <step21> rgnr, yes, it is the name of the file manager
[10:45] <dsathe1> Lunz: try
[10:45] <dsathe1> sudo update-grub
[10:46] <Lunz> done
[10:46] <dsathe1> did u see something like
[10:46] <rgnr> step21:  but it is xubuntu livecd
[10:46] <dsathe1> windows
[10:46] <red2kic> Darael: It's for making your AJAX applications crawlable. You can use either. # works for me here. :)
[10:46] <dsathe1> on sda1
[10:46] <Lunz> dsathel : after that?
[10:46] <dsathe1> at the end of it
[10:46] <rgnr> step21:  so it would be gksudo thunar?
[10:46] <Daghdha> mdadm can do it apparently
[10:47] <dsathe1> like the last line or so on the output on typing that command
[10:47] <step21> rgnr, yes
[10:47] <rgnr> step21:  10x will try in a sex
[10:48] <rgnr> step21:  sec* lol missed )
[10:48] <dsathe1> :-D
[10:48] <BlouBlou> rgnr: gksudo (sudo for GTK apps)
[10:48] <Lunz> dsathel : then what?
[10:48] <Darael> red2kic: Fair do's, I have learned something.  Fantastic.
[10:48]  * rgnr blushes
[10:48] <dsathe1> when u typed in sudo grub-update
[10:48] <dsathe1> could u pm me the output
[10:48] <Younder> sudo apt-get install ...
[10:48] <dsathe1> that u got
[10:49] <Younder> DO NOT do a grub-update
[10:49] <dsathe1> ?
[10:49] <Lunz> ??
[10:49] <dsathe1> nah its not done
[10:49] <Lunz> i already update?
[10:49] <dsathe1> Younder: why ?
[10:49] <dsathe1> Lunz
[10:50] <dsathe1> no it did not help
[10:50] <Younder> Well I fucked up a few systems royally donug that
[10:50] <WaltherFI> natty release date when?
[10:50] <bazhang> Younder, language
[10:50] <WaltherFI> aka when to clean install
[10:50] <Younder> 2011, 04, 31
[10:50] <bazhang> WaltherFI, 4/28
[10:50] <dsathe1> Younder: chill
[10:50] <red2kic> WaltherFI: One second before April 29.
[10:50] <WaltherFI> 'kay
[10:50] <BOB__> Hello I would like to try out ubuntu and have downloaded the ISO and made a USB Stick But when I boot into USB it shows the menu with options to try out, install, check memory and advanced options when I select test memory it shows corrupt kernel image but I have redownloaded the file and redone the USB stick but still shows the same thing
[10:51] <Younder> bazhang, the new release
[10:51] <Daghdha> is it not possible to configure context-menu popup behaviour in Ubuntu to make it work like it works in windows?
[10:51] <Younder> 20110 04, 31
[10:51] <bazhang> Younder, wrong
[10:51] <Younder> 2010 04, 31
[10:51] <BOB__> Hello I would like to try out ubuntu and have downloaded the ISO and made a USB Stick But when I boot into USB it shows the menu with options to try out, install, check memory and advanced options when I select test memory it shows corrupt kernel image but I have redownloaded the file and redone the USB stick but still shows the same thing
[10:52] <dsathe1> i i do it like everyday
[10:52] <Dazzled1> hi, is there a way to make cp keep the permissions when copying files
[10:52] <dsathe1> :D
[10:52] <Dazzled1> the -p flag doesn't cut it
[10:52] <red2kic> BOB__: Run the md5sum.
[10:52] <red2kic> !md5sum | BOB__
[10:52] <Dazzled1> the command is "cp -pf fileFrom FileTo"
[10:52] <BOB__> Thanks
[10:52] <red2kic> Darael: -a
[10:53] <Dazzled1> nm, I guess the download is not write enabled
[10:53] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I got a problem with my microphone on my Creative X-Fi FAtal1ty: I installed the open source drivers from Creative but now the microphone either 'records and replays' what I'm hearing on my headset (tested in TEamspeak/Skype/etc) or it just records plain nothing. Any ideas?
[10:53] <red2kic> Dazzled1: ^^
[10:53] <pindropper> red2kic: turns out the alias doesnt work. i thought it did. i typed alias google='lynx http://www.google.com/search?q=$1' - and then to search i typed: "google ubuntu" it looked for ubuntu.com found it and went there. dint search google at all. what am I missing?
[10:53] <Darael> red2kic: ?  Perhaps you meant to direct that to Dazzled1?
[10:53] <red2kic> Dazzled1: Try that. -a -- See if it cut the cake for you.
[10:53] <hipodilski> hi I have a strange mail settings window poping up everytime I login to my account how can I resolve that?
[10:53] <hipodilski> I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[10:54] <red2kic> pindropper: Try different search term like "debian" and see what turns up.
[10:54] <dsathe1> pindropper: it is a +
[10:54] <CQ> BOB_: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[10:54] <Daghdha> mdadm --help
[10:55] <pindropper> dsathe1: a + ? i am sorry, i dont follow
[10:55] <dsathe1> ditch it
[10:55] <pindropper> red2kic: i did. it simply takes the last word in my command and uses that to look up domain names
[10:56] <rgnr> step21:  now it shows me only to files like accessing_your_private-data and readme
[10:56] <rgnr> step21: 'twas a linux mint installation
[10:56] <pindropper> dsathe1: come on. do tell.
[10:56] <dsathe1> pindropper: i was saying google replace3 whitspace by "+"
[10:56] <dsathe1> like whe i google this in
[10:57] <dsathe1> one sec
[10:57] <pindropper> dsathe1: doesnt work. if its a one word argument .... there are no whitespaces then in the command
[10:57] <dsathe1> ill post you exact querries
[10:57] <pindropper> ok.
[11:01] <dsathe1> pindropper:
[11:01] <dsathe1> see this
[11:01] <dsathe1> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=google&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[11:01] <dsathe1> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=google+two&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[11:01] <FloodBot2> dsathe1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:02] <dsathe1> oops
[11:02] <dsathe1> srry
[11:02] <dsathe1> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=google&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[11:02] <pindropper> dsathe: what should i do with these urls?
[11:02] <KNUBBIG> I got a problem with my microphone on my Creative X-Fi FAtal1ty: I installed the open source drivers from Creative but now the microphone either 'records and replays' what I'm hearing on my headset (tested in TEamspeak/Skype/etc) or it just records plain nothing. Any ideas?
[11:02] <dsathe1> http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=google+two&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[11:03] <dsathe1> the point i was making is
[11:03] <Daghdha> question; mdadm - I set up mdadm to check monthly, it asked an email but not a server. How does it know where to send it, does it use ubuntu.com?
[11:03] <pindropper> ...
[11:03] <dsathe1> that '+'  replaces ' '
[11:03] <dsathe1> in querries
[11:03] <dsathe1> thats all
[11:03] <NightTrain_> rg
[11:04] <pindropper> dsathe1: i am full well aware of that. but why wouldnt it work when i have no whitespaces in a query. say i was searching for "donkey" there is no white space. the alias should work fine then. no?
[11:04] <murfie> I have /etc/network/interfaces with 3 vlan bridges, but they don't come up automatically.. any help?
[11:04] <dsathe1> true
[11:05] <pindropper> dsathe1: if i do lynx http://google.com/search?q=donkey. it works. but if i do alias google='http://google.com/search?q=$1' , and type google donkey. it doesnt. it seems like it should. but doesnt
[11:06] <murfie> ok, so this is just a join and leave channel
[11:06] <dsathe1> hmm
[11:08] <CQ> pindropper: replace the whitespaces with %21 s?
[11:09] <gaurav_help> how to connect teo ubuntu machine
[11:09] <Darael> !elaborate | gaurav_help
[11:09] <pindropper> cq: in the command itself? like google%21donkey
[11:10] <CQ> pindropper: no, in the query string, the $1
[11:10] <dsathe1> the $1
[11:10] <gaurav_help> how to transfer files and connect two ubuntu machine with wired connection ... which tool i need
[11:10] <dsathe1> might just b a spl car
[11:10] <dsathe1> gaurav_help: use ftp
[11:11] <pindropper> cq: i would when i get to making non-whitespace queries work in the first place.
[11:11] <gaurav_help> to connect two ubuntu machine i have 2 use ftp
[11:11] <llutz_> pindropper: that won't work in an alias, the $* will be expanded when creating the alias, not when calling it. define/use a function
[11:11] <pindropper> or are you suggesting i actually replace $1 with %21 which makes no sense
[11:12] <pindropper> llutz_:ok. so there is no way to do this using an alias?
[11:12] <llutz_> pindropper: afaik no. use a function defined in .bashrc
[11:12] <Darael> gaurav_help: You have several options.  Samba server, SCP, rsync-over-ssh, ftp...
[11:13] <pindropper> llutz_:thanks a lot.
[11:14] <gaurav_help> Darael, which one have GUI mode and easy 2 use can u recommend me any one from these
[11:14] <Darael> gaurav_help: If it's just a small file transfer or two, but you'll want to do it on a regular basis, you might want to try installing giver on both machines.
[11:14] <RxDx> is there any C programmer?
[11:15] <gaurav_help> i have 2 install these on both machine
[11:15] <Darael> gaurav_help: giver allows you to drag-and-drop files, and the destination machine gets a prompt about it.  It's probably your easiest method.
[11:16] <rgnr> yeeeha! got it!
[11:16]  * rgnr got it
[11:16] <rgnr> yeah, baby, I got it Xd
[11:17] <stianhj> I set up some custom keyboard shortcuts (using the keyboard shortcuts tool in 10.04). The shortcuts runs a little bash script, and they work. But I still get a "Error while trying to run <command>, etc ...". Anyone know how to fix this?
[11:17] <dr0id> how do you know whether a file is executable or not ? from command line ?
[11:18] <Nefertiti> I have error message with snapscan 1212u under ubuntu maverick, simple scan: cannot connect to a scanner
[11:18] <llutz_> dr0id: stat file
[11:18] <Nefertiti> help :)
[11:18] <step21> RxDx, this is not a programming help channel
[11:18] <dr0id> llutz_: hmm, which one in there ?
[11:18] <dr0id> says regular file
[11:18] <RxDx> step21, sry
[11:18] <dr0id> btw it shows File: `a.out' why not File: 'a.out' ? :P
[11:19] <stianhj> dr0id, a file is executable if it has the executable bit set.. ls -l file
[11:19] <Darael> dr0id: "ls -l file" gives the mode (amongst other things), if x is present in the mode then the file is has the executable permission.
[11:19] <dr0id> hey domas_
[11:19] <stianhj> the executable bit is the last one iirc
[11:19] <dr0id> but an executable file might not have the x part set :)
[11:19] <antivirtel> hi! how to list network interface names? eg. wlan0, eth0 (I need it for conky!)
[11:19] <Curly_Q> Is there a more stable version of VNC other than X11vnc?
[11:19] <iceroot> antivirtel: ifconfig
[11:20] <dr0id> Darael: but that's not something mandatory is what I am trying to say
[11:20] <dr0id> an exe file might not have x permissions, (and yes I know it won't execute then., but still)
[11:20] <stianhj> dr0id, use the command file.. file filename
[11:20] <dr0id> or am I wrong ?
[11:20] <dr0id> awesome, heh ;)
[11:20] <dr0id> AWESOME AWESOME
[11:20] <antivirtel> iceroot thx
[11:20] <dr0id> :)
[11:20] <KNUBBIG> I got a problem with my microphone on my Creative X-Fi FAtal1ty: I installed the open source drivers from Creative but now the microphone either 'records and replays' what I'm hearing on my headset (tested in TEamspeak/Skype/etc) or it just records plain nothing. Any ideas?
[11:20] <llutz_> dr0id: filenames -extenstion say nothing about bein executable or not
[11:21] <Darael> dr0id: Right.  Misunderstood what you were asking for.
[11:21] <Nefertiti> No one will help me? Which channel i should join to have some help then?
[11:21] <Darael> !patience | Nefertiti
[11:21] <Nefertiti> I have error message with snapscan 1212u under ubuntu maverick, simple scan: cannot connect to a scanner
[11:21] <gaurav_help> when i am sending file or receving file through bluetooth its shows me error "Cannot Start Personal File Sharing Prefrences"
[11:22] <pindropper> dsathe1, llutz, red2kic, cq : its party true what llutz said. there is no way to do this using an alias. not elegantly anyway. i got it to work by doing *alias google='lynx "http://www.google.com/search?q='* and then to search *google what ever i wan to search"* . the caveat being the last " that i must type in
[11:23] <dsathe1> Ubuntu.com is down !!!!!!!!!!!
[11:23] <rgnr> hooray!
[11:23] <Darael> dsathe1: No, it isn't.
[11:23] <dr0id> no it's not
[11:23] <BlouBlou> dsathe1: it isn't
[11:23] <dsathe1> try using say python to run that querry
[11:24] <dr0id> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[11:24] <dr0id> 11.0444444444444444444444444444444444444444444 :D :D:  :D
[11:24] <dsathe1> overkill but easy quick solution
[11:24] <KNUBBIG> dsathe1, http://www.downorjustforme.com
[11:24] <red2kic> pindropper: Like llutz_ said, use bash function.  ie -- googlefu() { lynx whatever }
[11:24] <BlouBlou> dr0id: stop it
[11:24] <dr0id> my friends are perm switching to 11.04 from windows
[11:24] <Darael> dsathe1: Just tried it in links.  It's not down.
[11:24] <dr0id> tommorrow
[11:24] <Guest35519> a
[11:24] <rgnr> Hello, nifty America. This is me, your president, John Henry..... aaaa gotcha!!!
[11:24] <Guest35519> asd
[11:24] <dr0id> lol rhn
[11:24] <dr0id> rgnr:
[11:25] <Guest35519> social network
[11:25] <Darael> dr0id: Good for them.  However, this is a support channel.  Mind taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:25] <rgnr> dr0id: f3 lol
[11:25] <Guest35519> bye
[11:25] <dr0id> I am never offtopic here
[11:25] <dr0id> but just because I opened ubutu.com just now reminded me of that
[11:25] <BlouBlou> dr0id: as Darael said, this is a support channel, join #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to talk
[11:26] <BlouBlou> heh
[11:26] <geo_> so this is my 1st time here,  what's the point
[11:26] <lameronline> Hey, why ubuntu looks like mac? telepathy, unity panel, even close buttons
[11:26] <KNUBBIG> I got a problem with my microphone on my Creative X-Fi FAtal1ty: I installed the open source drivers from Creative but now the microphone either 'records and replays' what I'm hearing on my headset (tested in TEamspeak/Skype/etc) or it just records plain nothing. Any ideas?
[11:26] <zvacet> geo_:  do you have any question
[11:26] <rgnr> prolly mac looks better than windows )
[11:27] <iceroot> rgnr: mac is a hardware, windows is a software and both are offtopic here
[11:27] <zvacet> rgnr:  bad argument
[11:27] <gaurav_help> y compiz effect is working properly but when i want to open my compiz setting to change some i don't getting opened how i open that prefrences
[11:28] <BlouBlou> gaurav_help: type in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager' and install it
[11:28] <Darael> lameronline: telepathy's a library, it doesn't look like anything.  The buttons were moved because of a plan to do things with the top-right corner.  The unity panel is different again.  This is a support channel, take it to -offtopic.
[11:28] <SixtyFold> maverick fully supports TRIM correct?
[11:29] <geo_> i need a usb mini driver for clavinoa?
[11:30] <SixtyFold> what's the best solution for RDP into a windows 7 machine from ubuntu with full graphical support? i havent got anything to work yet
[11:30] <red2kic> SixtyFold: The INTERNET seems to say yes.
[11:30] <red2kic> SixtyFold: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim/19480#19480
[11:30] <gaurav_help>  i already installed my Compiz setting manger earlier it works fine but now it is not opening ....i want to know if i remove that setting manger and reinstall it my setting would remain same or changed
[11:30] <SixtyFold> thanks red2kic on the trim question, i plan on putting a 40gb ssd into my EEEPC 1000h, so hope so
[11:31] <Darael> gaurav_help: Your settings are stored in your home folder.  Reinstalling the config application won't touch them.
[11:34] <dr0id> sorry guys
[11:34] <dr0id> Darael: sorry
[11:34] <ikonia> dr0id: what did I JUST tell you
[11:35] <ikonia> Support discussion ONLY
[11:35] <gaurav_help> Darael, where my setting r store in home folder if i use same setting in my other ubuntu machine it will work same as mine
[11:35] <ResQue> anyone in here used comodo firewall
[11:35] <ResQue> sorry wrong room
[11:36]  * rgnr want to try being offtopic
[11:36] <Darael> gaurav_help: ~/.config/compiz/
[11:37] <gaurav_help> Darael, so i remove my setting manger and re install it
[11:37] <rgnr> sudo /usr/bin/comodo/firewall
[11:37] <rgnr> !offtopic
[11:37] <ikonia> rgnr: is there a reason you are making these random comments ?
[11:38] <brontosaurusrex> in nautilus ctrl +s does selection by pattern, can i do the same, but with hidding the ones that wont match the pattern?
[11:38] <kwtm> pindropper: Did you get your question answered yet about how to use an alias to get lynx to google for something?
[11:38] <celthunder> w 4
[11:39] <kwtm> pindropper: Ahh, I see that llutz already answered you about half an hour ago: use a function.  Do you know how to do that?
[11:42] <gaurav_help> Darael, i have reinstall that but now also it its is not getting open
[11:42] <kwtm> stianhj: DId you get your question answered about "error trying to run <command>"?
[11:42] <stianhj> kwtm, no.. any ideas?
[11:45] <tomtit> Hi
[11:45] <tomtit> Could someone tell me how i might stop the screen from going black every so often please
[11:47] <lameronline> tomtit: what you mean?
[11:48] <pindropper> kwtm: thanks for asking. i just figured it out. but i do have a related question. i simply created the function google(){ lynx url$1} and it works fine. But where does this function get stored? How do i find out what different functions I've defined. Can I store them in a text file rather than type them in the terminal?a
[11:48] <BlouBlou> He may be askign about how to disable dark-windows compiz-effect
[11:48] <tomtit> When i am reading something on the screen it goes black after a few minutes
[11:48] <stianhj> tomtit, System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[11:49] <KrisDouglas> Hello
[11:50] <KrisDouglas> Can someone pls explain landscape to me. I have a server here which i want to cluster with 2 other machines elsewhere on the planet to enable high availability. What is the best solution for this?
[11:50] <kwtm> pindropper: I will answer you.  #bash would be a more relevant channel, although the atmosphere is not as friendly to newbies.  Your function is stored in the local environment memory of the shell (bash) that runs when you open a terminal window.  (Gnome Terminal or whatever program you're using.)  If you open a new terminal, that function is no longer there.  If you exit, that function is no longer there.
[11:51] <kwtm> pindropper: To make that function stay, you have to define it every time you open a new terminal window.  You can do that by putting that function into your ~/.bashrc file, which is run every time you open a new window.
[11:51] <dr0id> stianhj: thanks again :)
[11:51] <kwtm> pindropper: To find out what functions and aliases are already defined, use ... (wait, searching ...)
[11:52] <Darael> Got an irritating problem with my wifi.  For about the last 24 hours, I've been able to connect but after about five minutes it starts dropping all packets until I disconnect and reconnect.  Running a flood ping through the cycle gives (eventually) the repeating pattern "..E..............E...".  Have tried reloading kernel module for the card and restarting network-mananger - neither helped.  Ditto multiple reboots. Was thought to be RF interference, ...
[11:52] <kwtm> pindropper: You know, I actually don't know how to list all the functions.  Will ask in #bash now
[11:52] <Darael> ... but changing channels (6->13) made no difference.  Neither did a UFW reset.
[11:53] <pindropper> kwtm: ah! that makes perfect sense. Thanks a lot for this. i will try #bash -- thanks for the warning about it.
[11:54] <kwtm> pindropper: Also, you have an error in your function.  The $1 should be in double quotation marks.
[11:54] <kwtm> pindropper: Thus:    google() { lynx "url=$1" ; }
[11:54] <kwtm> don't forget the semicolon before the closing brace
[11:55] <kwtm> pindropper: Okay, I found out in bash that to list the functions, you say    declare -f
[11:55] <stianhj> I set up some custom keyboard shortcuts (using the keyboard shortcuts tool in 10.04). The shortcuts runs a little bash script, and they work. But I still get a "Error while trying to run <command>, etc ...". Anyone know how to fix this?
[11:56] <pindropper> kwtm: whoa! thats a lot of good help. :) thanks a lot. this info should keep me experimenting for a few days.
[11:57] <kwtm> pindropper: Also, the lynx url= thing is just an example.  I guess it should really be   google() { lynx "http://www.google.com/search?q=$1" ; }
[11:58] <pindropper> kwtm: yeah. thats the real function. thats how i implemented it too. i just typed it out real quick in the irc as pseudo func.
[12:00] <pindropper> kwtm: i just ran declare -f and a bunch of functions turned up. so when you said that the funcs defined in terminal have terminal scope, the rest must be defined elsewhere. they arent defined in the bashrc you pointed me to earlier.
[12:00] <Darael> Got an irritating problem with my wifi.  For about the last 24 hours, I've been able to connect but after about five minutes it starts dropping all packets until I disconnect and reconnect.  Running a flood ping through the cycle gives (eventually) the repeating pattern "..E..............E...".  Have tried reloading kernel module for the card and restarting network-mananger - neither helped.  Ditto multiple reboots. Was thought to be RF interference, ...
[12:00] <Darael> ... but changing channels (6->13) made no difference.  Neither did a UFW reset.
[12:01] <gaurav_help> when i am trying to open ccsm from my terminal its shows me this error
[12:01] <gaurav_help> Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:01] <gaurav_help>   File "/usr/bin/ccsm", line 100, in <module>
[12:01] <gaurav_help>     import ccm
[12:01] <gaurav_help>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ccm/__init__.py", line 1, in <module>
[12:01] <gaurav_help>     from ccm.Conflicts import *
[12:01] <gaurav_help>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ccm/Conflicts.py", line 27, in <module>
[12:01] <FloodBot3> gaurav_help: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:02] <kwtm> pindropper: When bash is first run, it runs ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc; these files can in turn call other files to be run.  As if that weren't complicated enough, there's also /etc/bash_profile and /etc/bashrc (I think those are the names --anyway, the system admin can also predefine files to be run).  So it's there somewhere.  Let me get you a FAQ...
[12:03] <gaurav_help> http://paste.ubuntu.com/599731/ this error is coming when i am opening ccsm from terminal
[12:03] <kwtm> pindropper: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/DotFiles
[12:03] <pindropper> kwtm: thanks. looking.
[12:04] <kwtm> pindropper: Whoa, that's a huge amount of text.  CHeck 2nd, 3rd paragraph under "Console logins"
[12:04] <peeq> Hi, I am in root, I want to create a user "adduser USERNAME", but at the same time I also want him to have sudo powers. What should I append to that command?
[12:04] <LjL> peeq: do "sudo adduser USERNAME admin"
[12:04] <kwtm> pindropper: Sorry, meant paragraph 2 4 5 6 under Console logins
[12:05] <schnuffle> gaurav_help: And what is your locale? check with  env | grep LOCALE
[12:05] <gaurav_help> Darael,  my ccsm is not working http://paste.ubuntu.com this error is coming i reinstall that hwo i remove thsi
[12:05] <usr13> Darael: Could there be some sort of traffic problem on your LAN? ..just a thought...  And how often does it happen?  Does your connection work ok for a while and then at some interval does it start having problems... or...?
[12:06] <peeq> LjL, adduser: The user `peeq' does not exist.
[12:06] <LjL> peeq: first you need to create it with "sudo adduser peeq", then give that command i said
[12:06] <usr13> Darael: What wifi device is it?  What driver are you using?  Is this a desktop or a laptop?
[12:07] <gaurav_help> schnuffle, its shows me nothing just blank
[12:07] <histo> Darael: what chipset is your card and what version of ubuntu are you running?  you can find out the chipset with lspci
[12:07] <usr13> Darael: What router are you using?  How many are connected to it?  Is it 802.11b or g ?
[12:07] <schnuffle> gaurav_help: check with  env | grep LANG
[12:07] <usr13> Darael: or mix...
[12:08] <peeq> LjL, Hi I have heard there are some problems, like when we use "adduser peeq admin" it removes that user from all other groups.
[12:08] <gaurav_help> schnuffle, ya this time this comes LANG=en_IN
[12:08] <gaurav_help> GDM_LANG=C
[12:08] <gaurav_help> LANGUAGE=C:en
[12:08] <FloodBot3> gaurav_help: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <peeq> LjL, should I be doing something like "adduser -a -G admin"? Will this give sudo power
[12:09] <pindropper> kwtm: :) that is a lot of text. and my head is spinning a lil bit. perhaps a coffee break is in order. But I did read the relevant bits and I do have some clarity. I guess now that i can fiddle around enough bash and ubuntu, its time to get a good book and read through it. Thanks really for your help, its been great.
[12:09] <jvoisin> a wich hour will the new ubuntu (natty narval) be available today ?
[12:09] <bazhang> jvoisin, 4/28 , not known
[12:09] <LjL> peeq: i don't even know what -a and G are. just do "sudo adduser peeq" to add it and then "sudo adduser peeq admin" to give it sudo powers
[12:09] <jvoisin> ok, thank you
[12:09] <kwtm> pindropper: Glad to help.  Bash can be complex if you start diving deeply into it.  But you should have enough to define your function and work with things.
[12:10] <LjL> peeq: you may also want to add it to other groups than admin, though. type "groups" to see all the groups your current user belongs to
[12:10] <gaurav_help> schnuffle, this out put comes LANG=en_IN GDM_LANG=C LANGUAGE=C:en
[12:10] <Darael> usr13, histo: Card chipset is realtek RTL8191SEvB.  Router is a getnet GR-724W - b/g/n, tried both with n enabled and disabled.  Problem is intermittent, but I never get more than ten minutes connected.  This laptop is running maverick and is currently the only device connected by wifi, although there's another machine on a wired connection.
[12:10] <usr13> Darael: pastebin the results of one of your ping tests so we can see.
[12:11] <Curly_Q> Hey guys, am I making a mistake by following this website for FreeNX?        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=467219
[12:11] <usr13> Darael: Is that other machine MS Windows or Linux? (The one that is on the wired connection.)
[12:12] <gaurav_help> schnuffle, ? any help
[12:12] <schnuffle> gaurav_help: so test your program with: LANG=en_US.UTF-8; /usr/bin/ccsm
[12:12] <cyoz> if I wanted to try out a distro that uses gnome 3, fedora would be a good choice right? (for a beginner)
[12:12] <histo> Darael: the only thing I can think of is driver issue. You can try ubuntu the ubuntu beta to see if the problem persists. Or try LTS which is lucid
[12:12] <Darael> usr13: Certainly.  Waiting for it to drop out again.
[12:12] <adsworth> Hi al, I just got a new usb keyboard that fails with generic-usb: probe of 0003:060B:0230.0002 failed with error -22 when connecting it.
[12:12] <adsworth> anyway I can force the kernel to use the keyboard module?
[12:12] <schnuffle> gaurav_help: to see which locales are installed use locale -a
[12:13] <peeq> LjL, Thanks for the info, I got it.
[12:13] <gaurav_help> schnuffle, thanks its working the command u tell me that i have 2 use every time that command will change any thing
[12:13] <Darael> usr13: It's a Linux box.  I'm in fact running irssi on it in screen (connecting over ssh), hence why I don't keep vanishing.
[12:14] <gaurav_help> schnuffle, and what is locales?
[12:14] <schnuffle> gaurav_help: locale - Get locale-specific information.
[12:15] <usr13> Darael: lsmod |grep rtl819
[12:15] <schnuffle> gaurav_help: which means a locale sets time/date format and everything that is language specific
[12:15] <schnuffle> gaurav_help: So if you want to run your prog with the locale you have set you need to install it
[12:16] <Darael> usr13: No output.  The module in question, though, is r8192se_pci (obtained by grep'ing for 819 instead of rtl819)
[12:17] <usr13> Darael: I think maybe you have wrong driver loaded up.
[12:18] <Curly_Q> Has anyone had any experience with this:   The seveas repository provides Nx Client for Linux. Windows NoMachine    ?
[12:18] <bazhang> Curly_Q, that seems to be quite an old repo
[12:18] <schnuffle> Curly_Q: You experience with NX or with seveas?
[12:19] <Curly_Q> That is what I was afraid of.
[12:19] <Darael> usr13: I am informed that the 8192 driver is the correct one for 8191 chipsets.  Certainly I can't find an 8191 driver...
[12:19] <Curly_Q> No.
[12:20] <JDuke128> hi , i've 2 HDDs , 1 is installed windows and other is Linux , i want Linux HDD first starts on boot and run some code and then boot redirect to windows back , how can i do it ? is it possible ? someone can help for that ? :S
[12:20] <usr13> Darael: lsmod | grep ireless
[12:20] <Curly_Q> I suppose I could Google it and spend hours with it but I humble myself and wonder who has the best answer.
[12:20] <Darael> usr13: No output.
[12:20] <usr13> Darael: lspci | grep ireless
[12:20] <usr13> Darael: sorry, first one was typo
[12:21] <sebrock> anyone knows which cronjob or how to force MOTD to update?
[12:21] <kwtm> After I close Evolution (the email program), how can I access my stored email files without using Evolution?  Are there text files stored that I can read with a hex editor or something?
[12:21] <Darael> usr13: 05:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[12:22] <mcurran> they would be stored on the email server it fetches the mail from, you would have to download them locally or try to find a local saving solution/option within evolution
[12:23] <Darael> usr13: ping results as requested earlier (to router, including flood-ping and normal run in parallel - timescale is shortly after connection through failure and manual reconnection): http://paste.ubuntu.com/599737/
[12:23] <Curly_Q> I installed FreeNX but am very leary about X11vnc. It seems very unstable.
[12:24] <Darael> kwtm: Somewhere in ~/.evolution/mail
[12:25] <usr13> Darael: lsmod | grep rtl
[12:25] <juzzrt> join #physics
[12:25] <Darael> usr13: no output.
[12:25] <usr13> Darael: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=226&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[12:27] <cyoz> what would be my editor of choice for creating websites?
[12:27] <usr13> Darael: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1397309
[12:27] <cyoz> people say vim but that seems to involve a lot of learning...
[12:27] <usr13> cyoz: vimtutor
[12:28] <mithran> hi all, i installed chromium, and am having a really tough time configuring java on the browser(it fails the test on the java website), can someone please help me
[12:28] <usr13> cyoz: an awful lot of people are moving to cms (including myself - joomla).
[12:29] <usr13> mithran: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[12:30] <Darael> usr13: So basically, I'm left with little option other than compiling the driver myself.  I was hoping to avoid that, but... thanks anyway.
[12:31] <histo> Darael: or you can try a driver from backports
[12:31] <histo> !wifi | Darael
[12:31] <Ubby_Hubble> Hi there! I need to know how to make a total check-up to Ubuntu 10.04, check if everything is sane: check deps, damaged apps, libraries, ecc... Can you tell me how please?
[12:31] <Darael> histo: Cheers, I'll have a look.  And why didn't I think of chacking backport anyway?
[12:32] <histo> Ubby_Hubble: anytime you install an app it will complain if there is a dependancy problem
[12:32] <histo> Darael: there is some sort of wifi compat package or something can't remember the name of it.
[12:32] <histo> Darael: I believe it's listed on the link provided by ubottu
[12:32] <Ubby_Hubble> histo: ok, anything else, any tool to check Ubuntu?
[12:32] <th^^> Ubby_Hubble: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:32] <th^^> :)
[12:33] <Ubby_Hubble> th^^: :D
[12:33] <usr13> Darael: It's not that hard.  Just install build-essential and linux-headers-generic  and then download the file, unpack it and do .configure make and make install  But I do not know if there is a .deb someplace, I just did a search and that seems to be the best info I can find.
[12:33] <histo> Darael: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download#Getting_compat-wireless_on_Ubuntu
[12:33] <sebrock> anyone knows which cronjob or how to force MOTD to update?
[12:34] <usr13> !realtek Darael
[12:34] <usr13> !realtek | Darael
[12:35] <inma> hello everyone, anyone can help me to make open office spell check in spanish? thank you
[12:35] <Darael> usr13: I know it's not hard, I just didn't want to get into recompiling every kernel update (or working out how to use DKMS).
[12:35] <JuJuBee> How do I add a static route to my box?
[12:35] <histo> Darael: no need to recompile with compat-wireless
[12:35] <usr13> Darael: I don't know if that ^^^ has anything to do with your device because it says RTL8187b  .... I don't know...
[12:36] <histo> JuJuBee: route add
[12:36] <Darael> histo, usr13: Thanks.  I'll have a look about.  Hopefully one of these various leads will help.
[12:36] <usr13> Darael: You might consider trading the card out for one that is less problematic
[12:36] <histo> Darael: my money is with compat modules
[12:36] <usr13> Darael: ... via ebay.
[12:37] <histo> usr13: that realtek card should be supported and working.
[12:37] <histo> usr13: he's most likely experiencing a bug
[12:37] <usr13> histo: That is what I thought....
[12:37] <JuJuBee> histo will that persist?
[12:37] <usr13> Darael: Maybe the device is just defective in the first place.
[12:38] <usr13> Darael: It may be overheating or just going flakey on you.
[12:38] <histo> JuJuBee: huh? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+static+route
[12:38] <usr13> Darael: It may very well be a hardware issue and not a software issue at all.
[12:39] <histo> usr13: Darael no way to find out unless you try different drivers
[12:39] <usr13> Darael: You could just find something else on ebay....
[12:40] <mythri> hello all
[12:41] <mythri> this is a query to the problem to my other laptop
[12:41] <histo> usr13: why do that without testing first?  wasting money
[12:41] <mythri> i need help badly becuz i have to travel in few days i wont be having internet to fix problem then
[12:42] <mythri> Wat happens is when i start the laptop it refuses to login and prompts me with an error message THE CONFIGURATION SETTINGS FOR GNOME POWER MANAGER WAS NOT INSTALLED PROPERLY. CONTACT YOUR COMPUTER ADMINISTRATOR
[12:43] <usr13> I was just giving options. Computer problems and particularly peripheral gear can be very complicated at times. The first thing to do is discover and list available options.  (It is up to Darael to decide which option to try first.)
[12:43] <mythri> CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME.. ALL I CAN OPEN IS TERMINAL AND NOTHING ELSE
[12:43] <celthunder> mythri: dpkg --reconfigure <gnome power manager package
[12:43] <celthunder> and turn off the caps lock
[12:43] <mythri> PLEASE PLEASE..I M NEWBEE TO UBUNTU
[12:43] <bazhang> mythri, no caps please
[12:43] <usr13> mythri: What seems to be the problem?
[12:44] <mythri> i cant go log in
[12:44] <mythri> all i can access is terminal
[12:44] <usr13> mythri: There is no prompt for login?
[12:44] <mythri> it gives me a msg saying 'the configuration settings for gnome power manager was not installed properly.
[12:44] <usr13> mythri: try  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[12:45] <mythri> celthunder,  should i type the command u told me in the terminal?
[12:45] <mythri> usr13, its quit not working..let me try
[12:46] <celthunder> mythri: idk what package is the gnome power manager but yeah
[12:46] <usr13> celthunder: no.  Hold the Ctrl and Alt keys while  hitting the  F6 key.
[12:46] <mythri> let me try..pls hold on
[12:46] <mythri> ok
[12:46] <mythri> usr13, i will try that as well
[12:46] <usr13> mythri: Now what do you have?
[12:46] <celthunder> usr13: he just said gdm isn't running :/
[12:47] <mythri> just a sec i m starting laptop
[12:47] <damno> d
[12:48] <usr13> mythri: What is installed on this PC?  Is it Ubuntu 10.10?  or...?  what?   And when did it start happening?  After a distribution upgrade?  or...?
[12:48] <mythri> usr13, now i see ubuntu login
[12:48] <mythri> yes it is ubuntu 10.10
[12:49] <damno> I have  a bad font rendering in ubuntu
[12:49] <usr13> mythri: Is it working now?
[12:49] <damno> its a bit hazy
[12:49] <damno> what should I do?
[12:49] <mythri> usr13, now after i did that and logged in i can see terminal is opened
[12:49] <mythri> wat should i do now
[12:50] <damno> its a bit hazy. what should I do?
[12:50] <fcuk112> hi, just upgraded to natty - when i click home folder in launcher it kinda flashes but doesn't do anything.  anyone know why this may be?
[12:50] <usr13> mythri: login
[12:50] <damno> I have  a bad font rendering in ubuntu what should I do?
[12:50] <celthunder> fcuk112: does nautilus work?
[12:50] <bazhang> damno, patience please
[12:50] <damno> bazhang: sorry
[12:50] <BIGMCK068> HI
[12:51] <fcuk112> celthunder, yes - if i super-F and click on another folder it brings up nautilus.
[12:51] <BIGMCK068> can anyone help with a creative sound issue
[12:51] <Chepoll> hey I've got a small problem
[12:51] <Chepoll> can anyone help me?
[12:52] <mythri> celthunder, i did the command wat u said it says no such file or directory
[12:52] <celthunder> mythri: ?
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[12:52] <Chepoll> okay, asking the question
[12:52] <mythri> celthunder, dpkg --reconfigure <gnome power manager package
[12:52] <BIGMCK068> no sound have creative sound card pci-x
[12:53] <celthunder> BIGMCK068: what're you using for a mixer? is it muted?  does it show up in lspci
[12:53] <mythri> celthunder, i did the above ^^ comand but it says no such file or directory
[12:53] <celthunder> mythri: you weren't supposed to type that exactly
[12:54] <usr13> mythri: Is gdm running?   ps aux |grep gdm
[12:54] <mythri> celthunder, what should i type then..please guide..im new to ubuntu
[12:54] <usr13> mythri: ps aux |grep gdm
[12:54] <hetOrakel> hi all, i have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop and the laptop's fan is blowing like a vacuumcleaner.Back in 9.something this was not the case
[12:54] <Chepoll> I have once installed CDM ( console display manager) and then removed it. now when I am booting up through the console, right after it says "Welcome to Ubuntu" it says "bash: cdm: command not found" . I want to get rid of it
[12:54] <mythri> usr13, whats gdm, ps aux?
[12:54] <BIGMCK068> i got nvidia gtx460 video card (has hdmi) and creative sb x-fi sound card and i disabled the sound on the nvidia hdmi
[12:54] <usr13> mythri: ..... and tell us if you get one line of response of more.
[12:55] <histo> hetOrakel: what kind of temps are you running
[12:55] <usr13> mythri: man ps
[12:55] <hetOrakel> histo: temps?
[12:55] <BIGMCK068> CA0110-IBG SB X XTREME AUDIO
[12:55] <histo> mythri: ps aux will print running items | pipes the output to grep and grep searches xxx like gdm
[12:55] <mythri> usr13, i got it i m typing it
[12:55] <histo> hetOrakel: temperatures
[12:55] <usr13> mythri: ps reports a snapshot of the current processes
[12:56] <mythri> usr13, now i got a list of things
[12:56] <necrotik> When I startup my ubuntu I get a warning its running in low-graphics mode. My xorg.0.log looks fine no errors, whats going on?
[12:56] <usr13> mythri: so there was more than one line of output, right?
[12:56] <mythri> usr13, yes there was..
[12:56] <celthunder> necrotik: install the right graphics drivers/modules?
[12:56] <usr13> mythri: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <necrotik> I have the nvidia proprietary graphics driver installed, i think
[12:57] <hetOrakel> histo: i get it, but what do you mean by "are you running" do you mean my bios settings?
[12:57] <mythri> usr13, should i type this command ^ u gave
[12:57] <celthunder> hetOrakel: laptop-mode-tools
[12:57] <celthunder> or acpi
[12:57] <dd214> shell syntax question.. what is the syntax for a random number?
[12:57] <usr13> mythri: Yes, type        ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and hit enter. Tell us what it says back to you.
[12:58] <mythri> usr13, it says no such file or directory cannot access
[12:58] <celthunder> rand()
[12:58] <celthunder> dd214: rand()
[12:58] <dd214> for instance, I have a sleep thread for 1 second but would like the sleep thread to run 1, .2, .4
[12:58] <mythri> usr13, just for ur knowledge i m using ubuntu 10.10
[12:58] <mythri> this is scaring me because i m not able to open and i have so much of documents inside
[12:59] <hetOrakel> celthunder: when i install them it removes acpi
[12:59] <usr13> mythri: WHen did this start?  Did you make any changes right before the problem occurred?
[12:59] <celthunder> ? do you have an apm motherboard
[12:59] <hetOrakel> celthunder: btw doesnt make any difference
[12:59] <usr13> mythri: Did you do a distribution upgrade or something like that?
[12:59] <hetOrakel> celthunder: how can i tell?
[12:59] <mythri> it started after i downloaded ktouch from ubuntu software manager and the download stopped it in half way
[13:00] <necrotik> Yea I'm still getting low-graphics mode. I'm using the nvidia proprietary driver.
[13:00] <necrotik> I tell it to start x in low-graphics mode, I get a console. startx then gets me into gnome fine.
[13:00] <dd214> celthunder that seems to be erroring
[13:00] <Soyo> This update would require installation from non authenticated sources; alsa-utils app-install-data-partner apparmor apparmor-utils appmenu-gtk apport apport-gtk aptdaemon avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon avahi-utils bash-completion bind9-host brasero-common bsdutils computer-janitor computer-janitor-gtk cups cups-bsd cups-client cups-common cups-ppdc dbus dbus-x11 dhcp3-client dhcp3-common dnsutils dpkg empathy empathy-common evince
[13:01] <Soyo> oops
[13:01] <Soyo> my bad
[13:01] <FloodBot3> Soyo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <mythri> usr13, and when i restarted my laptop this problem started. i also downloaded google earth. i didnt do any distribrution upgrade
[13:01] <Soyo> I didn't realize that was so long
[13:01] <dd214> celthunder if I echo rand() I receive a syntax error
[13:01] <usr13> mythri: ktouch shouldn't have done anyting like this.  (But I recommend gtypist ... fyi).
[13:01] <mythri> i know ..i dont know wat to do now or how to solve this issue
[13:01] <usr13> mythri: Ok, well google earth could have done it.
[13:01] <Darael> histo: compat modules?  Bad idea.  Installed the package, now I no longer have a wlan0.  The card's still there in lspci, but post-reboot nothing's claiming it.  Attempting to modprobe rtl8192 (since there's still no 8191) gives a FATAL:no such module, and modprobing r8192se_pci (which is the module I used to use) now fails with an invalid argument.
[13:01] <usr13> mythri: You should install google earth via the package manager.
[13:02] <LjL> Soyo: no problem with the original line, as long as you put it on one line it's fine. just, please wait a while before speaking again after the FloodBot warns you, otherwise you get muted
[13:02] <usr13> mythri: The package name is   googleearth-package
[13:03] <usr13> mythri: Try    Ctrl-Alt-F8
[13:03] <Soyo> LjL: Thanks and sorry about that I thought it was only one package. Why is every package non-authenticated?
[13:03] <usr13> mythri: and if that doesn't work:    Ctrl-Alt-F7
[13:03] <LjL> Soyo: i don't know. type "apt-cache policy one-of-those-packages" to see where it might be coming from
[13:03] <adsworth> anyone know how I can tell the kernel to use a certain module for a specific device if the automatic recognition fails?
[13:03] <mythri> usr13, all i can see is terminal screen and nothin else
[13:03] <usr13> mythri: Anything there?
[13:04] <usr13> mythri: On both  F8 and F7  ?
[13:04] <Darael> Soyo: Can happen if the package list update gets interrupted - try refreshing it again? (sudo apt-get update)
[13:04] <celthunder> adsworth: modprobe
[13:04] <sveinse> How can I in a makefile test if make has been called with -j ?
[13:05] <mythri> usr13, f8 nothing and f7 it gives the login screen but no user name or password just a grey box
[13:05] <adsworth> celthunder, I know that I can do a modprobe modname but how do I tell modprobe which device I want?
[13:05] <usr13> mythri: it gives a login screen?  That is strange... nothing above F6 should be offering login screen.
[13:05] <igor__> ahha
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> mythri:  you mean it has a X based GDM LOGIN? or just a 'login:' prompt like the console does.
[13:06] <igor__> e
[13:06] <usr13> mythri: Ok try this:  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:06] <Soyo> LjL: Version table:
[13:06] <Soyo>      1.0.23-2ubuntu3.4 0
[13:06] <igor__> aaghahg
[13:07] <LjL> Soyo: what does the line below that say?
[13:07] <Soyo> LjL:
[13:07] <Soyo> Version table:
[13:07] <Soyo>      1.0.23-2ubuntu3.4 0
[13:07] <Soyo>  500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main i386 Packages
[13:07] <FloodBot3> Soyo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <lilljocke> hello everyone i have a question, how do i unpack a tar.gz file? im trying to extract linux to a CF card and use it with a thinn client but the tar.gz file containing files from 1943?? so it wont unpack it, any fix or something??
[13:07] <igor__>  zxffxz
[13:07] <LjL> Soyo: and that's the only output there is?
[13:07] <Soyo> Yeah I didn't mean to do that on more than one line using irssi]
[13:07] <usr13> mythri: It was just a console login on F7 and F8... right?
[13:07] <igor__> ;;;ll
[13:07] <igor__> l;;;l
[13:07] <igor__> ll
[13:07] <igor__> l
[13:07] <igor__> 'l'
[13:07] <FloodBot3> igor__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <igor__> l
[13:07] <igor__> ;
[13:07] <LjL> igor__: stop
[13:07] <FloodBot3> ucenik06: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:08] <Soyo> LjL no let me pastebin it hang on
[13:08]  * LjL glares at the FloodBot3
[13:08] <mythri> usr13, yes
[13:09] <Chepoll> QUESTION: I have installed, and then remove GDM. My computer still tries to start with it. How can I completely remove it?
[13:09] <botcity> dd214, NUMBER=$[ ( $RANDOM % 100 )  + 1 ]     then    echo $NUMBER
[13:09] <usr13> mythri: Did you try    /etc/init.d/gdm restart  ?
[13:09] <daniel_> hello
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Chepoll:  see if /etc/init/gdm.conf exists. if so rename it to perhaps gdm.DONTRUN
[13:09] <usr13> mythri: You went back to   F6,   right?
[13:09] <usr13> mythri: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[13:09] <Soyo> LjL: http://pastebin.com/UgkMZhsz
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Chepoll:  what login manager are you wanting to use?
[13:10] <mythri> usr13, i did ctrl alt f6
[13:10] <Chepoll> Dr_Willis: I don't want to use any DM
[13:10] <LjL> Soyo: try doing "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 437D05B5", then apt-get update and then try again
[13:10] <usr13> mythri:  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Chepoll:  theres the 'text' kernel boot time option that disables plymooth and gdm/kdm/anydm from starting also.
[13:11] <Darael> Chepoll: If you started without GDM, try doing an "apt-get purge gdm" - that'll remove any residual config, which may be your culprit
[13:11] <Chepoll> ok, please let me catch up to what you've said so far
[13:12] <karthick87> What is the maximum size of thunderbird  mailbox?
[13:12] <mythri> usr13, i did that now
[13:12] <Soyo> LjL: What is 437D0585?
[13:12] <usr13> Darael: Dr_Willis I suppose he could also just do chmod -x  /etc/init.d/gdm
[13:12] <usr13> mythri: Anything happening?
[13:12] <mythri> usr13, it gives error message
[13:13] <lilljocke> someone who can unpack a tar.gz file?
[13:13] <LjL> Soyo: the GPG keyword for the default repositories
[13:13] <usr13> mythri: What error?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  except i think its /etc/init/gdm.conf  :) actually it may have both.. ive not looked lately
[13:13] <LjL> !gpgerr | Soyo
[13:13] <Soyo> LjL: 21 new signatures
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> lilljocke:  tar xzf foo.tgz or cheat and use the 'unp' command.
[13:13] <usr13> Dr_Willis: On 10.04 it is    /etc/init.d/gdm
[13:14] <Chepoll> purged and whatnot, rebooting ATM
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  check your /etc/init dir also.. it could be one is a link to the other.
[13:14] <Thrawn> i installed a cursor theme but the cursor wont show up in appearances -> pointer
[13:14] <Thrawn> and when i try to reinstall the theme it says cant move directory over directory
[13:14] <necrotik> Ok I did some more digging. I still get the low-graphics warning, but when I checked /var/log ( I deleted all the xorg logs and rebooted ) there is only an Xorg.failsafe.log
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[13:15] <mythri> usr13, rather than invoking init script, use service (8) utility
[13:15] <Soyo> LjL: Working now, thank you.
[13:15] <LjL> bazhang: while you're there, there are quite a few mutes standing i've noticed...
[13:15] <usr13> Dr_Willis: /etc/init/gdm.con  is just the config file, not a symlink or anything.
[13:15] <mythri> usr13, That's what I'm getting.
[13:15] <velcroshooz> is there a way to have two different wallpapers on a multi display setup?
[13:15] <Soyo> Just in time to go to 11.04...
[13:16] <Ramesh> hi
[13:16] <usr13> mythri: service gdm restart
[13:16] <Chepoll> @Dr_Willis : Thanks, the purging solved my problem
[13:16] <Thrawn> i installed a cursor theme but the cursor wont show up in appearances -> pointer, and when i try to reinstall the theme it says cant move directory over directory
[13:16] <lilljocke> its gives me an error when i unpack that file> implausibly old time stamp 1943-02-05 17:20:41
[13:16] <mythri> usr13, error name="unset"
[13:17] <lilljocke> is there any parameter for force it?
[13:17] <dd214> botcity that works!
[13:17] <Ramesh> hi
[13:17] <ii> Hi
[13:17] <Ramesh> h r u?
[13:17] <usr13> mythri:  /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[13:18] <Thrawn> any1 can help me with my cursor theme issue? :(
[13:18] <Ramesh> hi ii
[13:18] <Chepoll> QUESTION: I once installed CDM (console display manager) and then removed it. Now when my computer is booting up, right after "Welcome to Ubuntu!" it says "bash: cdm: command not found". I want to get rid of that. What files do I need to look at?
[13:18] <mythri> usr13, the same error message - rather use service(8) utility.
[13:19] <usr13> mythri: service gdm stop
[13:19] <mythri> usr13, I've tried that before
[13:20] <usr13> mythri: Ok you say that Ctrl-Alt-F7  and Ctrl-Alt-F8  both give loging screens?
[13:20] <mythri> usr13, error name ='unset'
[13:20] <usr13> mythri:      is that  ^^^^^ right?
[13:20] <ii> After a couple of hours online when I try to open the home folder the windows on the taskbar shows that it's opening it but then closes instantly and opens after 5-10 minutes. At the same time vuze is giving me an error if I try launching it from the tray (saying it's not responding). What should I check to know what's causing it?
[13:20] <mythri> usr13, no, only f8
[13:20] <usr13> mythri: what about F9
[13:20] <usr13> ?
[13:20] <usr13> Ctrl-Alt-F9
[13:20] <mythri> f gives me blank
[13:21] <mythri> f9 gives me blank
[13:21] <mythri> *
[13:21] <usr13> mythri: ok.  Ctrl-Alt-F7
[13:21] <usr13> mythri: blank?
[13:21] <mythri> usr13, ok, i have the login screen now but i can't login
[13:21] <mythri> usr13, just a grey box
[13:21] <dd214> botcity how do I get a $RANDOM millisecond?  or fractions?  I want to produce random fractions of 1.. ie  .01,  .13,  .22
[13:22] <usr13> mythri: Grey box?
[13:22] <mythri> usr13, yes, without textbox for usrname and pass
[13:22] <Chepoll> he shoud reinstall the display manager perhaps?
[13:22] <usr13> mythri: click on the username
[13:22] <mythri> usr13, an incomplete login screen
[13:22] <rcmaehl> #ubuntu I have created a freenode wiki and I would like you all to create a wiki article for your channel. http://freenode.fcofix.org/index.php?title=Ubuntu (I am currently working on obtaining a domain for the wiki itself)
[13:22] <usr13> mythri: or just try hitting enter.
[13:22] <mythri> usr13, there is no username there.
[13:23] <mythri> okay
[13:23] <mythri> I can see the login screen now
[13:23] <mythri> but can't log in
[13:23] <mythri> usr13,  i can't log in but
[13:23] <mythri> usr13, It says I'm currently logged in.
[13:24] <botcity> dd214, sleep command has milliseconds built in i think
[13:24] <usr13> mythri: Describe what you see on the screen in a little more detail.
[13:24] <mythri> usr13, the prompt is still there on login screen saying: the configuration defaults for gnome pwr manager was not installed properly.
[13:25] <mythri> usr13, heading is install problem
[13:26] <usr13> mythri: Go back to Ctrl-Alt-F6
[13:26] <mythri> usr13, Install Problem; the configuration defaults for gnome power manager were not installed properly. Please contact your computer administrator.
[13:26] <mythri> usr13, okay
[13:26] <usr13> mythri: and do this:
[13:27] <mythri> usr13, yes
[13:27] <usr13> mythri: sudo apt-get remove powermgmt-base
[13:27] <dd214> botcity yes, sleep does support milliseconds, but I'm trying to generate a random sleep millisecond
[13:28] <macca> argh dont ask me how but i was removing panels from my bar at the top and then the whole thing deleted... how do  get it back
[13:28] <usr13> mythri: Soon as it is finished do:   sudo apt-get install powermgmt-base
[13:28] <mythri> usr13, it asks me if i want to continue
[13:28] <botcity> dd214,  you could do something like sleep 0.$NUMBER  that would do it
[13:28] <bazhang> !resetpanels | macca
[13:29] <mythri> usr13, after this operation, 987 kb disk space will be freed, do you want to continue< it asks me this
[13:29] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do i update wine ?
[13:29] <Bluebill-Wolf> or rather add it to the update repository
[13:29] <macca> bazhang, how do i get into terminal with no bar
[13:30] <mythri> usr13, do i  continue?