[12:00] <Miles> MarcN: it said "selecting mysql-client-4.1 instead of mysql-client," and then whined about "the following packages have unmet dependencies"  two about perl, and one about mysql-common-4.1 but it is not installable, followed by an E: Broken Packages.....   thoughts?
[12:00] <sally_> moodog: I dont have the install cd, just some OEM reinstall discs, not the XP discs
[12:00] <kcodenamet> lol
[12:00] <navarone> hosler...then stop banging...<s>
[12:00] <Ganjhi> Hmm, it doesn't seem to be adding Root Terminal to the System Menu.
[12:00] <hosler> navarone: even if i lay down a glass of water it will restart
[12:00] <vb_coder> Seveas: are you saying opera can not be installed on breezy?
[12:00] <MarcN> Miles: which ubuntu version are you running?  How did you install mysql?
[12:00] <Ganjhi> I'll just open it in terminal
[12:00] <moodog> sally_: you might be able to make some recovery disks with the system tools in windows
[12:00] <sally_> maskd:  sda1 and sda2 are windows and sda5 and sda6 are linux swap and ext3
[12:01] <Miles> 5.10, installed mysql via "bitrock" lamp stack installer from sugarcrm 3.5.1 installer download
[12:01] <sephran> I did:  sudo mount -t ntsf /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on?
[12:01] <Seveas> vb_coder, yes it can, if you choose the debian eth version
[12:01] <navarone> vb_coder, I have opera installed...dl the deb from the opera site
[12:01] <vb_coder> Seveas: what is eth?
[12:01] <sephran> ignore: ntfs typo
[12:01] <fraggsta> hey, I'm finally IRCing from my iBook which is now almost FULLY operational running Ubuntu :D
[12:01] <maskd> sally_: so you dont have an OEM disc that is used to install windows?
[12:02] <Seveas> vb_coder, i mean etch, look at deb.opera.com
[12:02] <fangorious> anyone know why network-manager requires bind9?
[12:02] <Epix> where can i download a reiserfsprogs DEB file on windows. I need to use it on a comp with no network.
[12:02] <Seveas> vb_coder, http://deb.opera.com/opera/dists/etch/non-free/
[12:02] <MarcN> Miles: why not install mysql from apt-get instead?  Then you have no dependency issues.    Or you can see if that installer provided a package for the clients.  I never install using dpkg -i foo.deb if i can help it.
[12:02] <fangorious> the dhcdbd dependency I understand
[12:02] <moodog> sally_: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_install_console.mspx to install the recovery console
[12:02] <hosler> MarcN: what could be loose?
[12:03] <moodog> sally_: then: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/recovery_install_console.mspx to fix the mbr
[12:03] <sally_> maskd: right, I have some OEM discs that will put the machine back into the state it was when I got it, but I don't even have those with me now
[12:03] <navarone> hosler...how old is 'puter...and is it laptop or desktop?
[12:03] <sally_> moodog: thanks a ton I will check those out
[12:03] <MarcN> hosler: anything.  memory, cards, mobo hitting the case.  anything that can cause a short
[12:03] <Ganjhi> How do you navigate to a certain file in Root Terminal?
[12:03] <Miles> MarcN:  due to my hideous newbie status, I figured it would be best to go with a stack installer, as opposed to module at a time.. and since at this point mysql does function, i'm hesitant to restart it
[12:03] <lampshade> What's the correct order for installing Xorg and then FLuxbox as well?  I tried last night and ended up very frustrated with the two not playing along with eachother.
[12:03] <moodog> sally_: sorry, seems you need the setup cd to use that option too...
[12:03] <hosler> navarone: its a desktop i assembled about 2 years ago
[12:03] <MarcN> fangorious: because it needs a d-bus aware dhcpd client.
[12:03] <sally_> moodog: yeah I just realized
[12:04] <nalioth> lampshade: one needs xorg in order for flux to work
[12:04] <navarone> hosler...have you added any hardware lately?
[12:04] <Zambba> lampshade: Install xserver-xorg, gdm/kdm/xdm and fluxbox
[12:04] <MarcN> Miles: check to see if they provide client packages.
[12:04] <fraggsta> there's just one thing..how do I set it up so that command+click and alt+click generate middle/right click in X on a Mac?
[12:04] <hosler> MarcN: this sounds funny, but i forgot to put that little plastic things between the screws and the motherboard. could that be the problem?
[12:04] <melodie> lampshade, the server first, the gui after
[12:04] <hosler> navarone: ho
[12:04] <hosler> no*
[12:04] <hosler> lol
[12:05] <fangorious> MarcN: that's why it needs dhcdbd, which I understand. I don't understand bind9 (isn't that a DNS server?)
[12:05] <MarcN> hosler: I'd bet that is the problem.
[12:05] <nalioth> fraggsta: you'll probably have better luck asking Mac/OSX questions somewhere else
[12:05] <sephran> I did:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on? (if I finish this, I can go home)
[12:05] <robotgeek> lampshade: if you apt-get install fluxbox, it will install xserver first
[12:05] <navarone> hosler...what psu you use? watts?
[12:05] <fraggsta> nalioth, as I said, this ibook is now running Ubuntu (solely)
[12:05] <hosler> navarone: Antec 430W
[12:05] <moodog> sally_: you have /boot as a seperate partion?
[12:05] <hosler> MarcN: Where can i get those?
[12:05] <hosler> i odnt know what they are called
[12:05] <MarcN> fangorious: yeah, it does some funky things with using a local, caching only dns server.  The Red Hat guy who implemented it was at our LUG and said it was needed for some VPN (I think) support.
[12:05] <navarone> hosler has the reboots started recently?
[12:06] <sally_> moodog: no, sda1 is some hidden system restore partition that was on the machine when I got it, sda5 and sda6 are swap and /
[12:06] <hosler> navarone: no. they started a while back, but they have become more frequent. I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE!
[12:06] <MarcN> hosler: beats me.  Just make sure that the mobo never touches metal on the case.
[12:06] <fangorious> MarcN: man, I was hoping he had gotten away from that. I made DNS really freaking slow last time I tried it on Fedora
[12:06] <hosler> shoot
[12:06] <Miles> MarcN:  any direction on how to look? there's a mysql folder, what would I be looking for?
[12:06] <navarone> hosler> when syatem reboots what kind of beeps do you get at post? Just one normal or any other?
[12:06] <moodog> sally_: other than strinking your linux partion to the minimum and using the free space that created I can't think of another option.
[12:07] <MarcN> Miles: i've not used sugar nor that lamp installer.
[12:07] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   did you setup a root user?
[12:07] <ardchoille> sally_: is that an hp computer?
[12:07] <moodog> sally_: other than fixmbr
[12:07] <MarcN> Miles: mysql-client*.deb
[12:07] <nalioth> fraggsta: well congratulations (i use a 3 button mouse, so idk your asnwer)
[12:07] <sally_> ardchoille: it's an acer
[12:07] <hosler> navarone: well thats another thing. sometimes it will beep once (thats normal) and other times it wont beep at all and just sit there.
[12:07] <Miles> when you install mysql in that way, you get a mysql folder in home yes? Does that folder contain the client app you describe? Or am I mixed up here?
[12:07] <sephran> it's been 24:00 hours, if I finish this..I can finally head back home...through the snow, and ice...and cold.
[12:08] <sephran> I did:  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2   ... I need it to update to:  sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=ubuntu' /dev/hda5 /mnt/windisk2    ... wich steps do I continiu on? (if I finish this, I can go home)
[12:08] <sally_> moodog: you are under the impression that if I just format the partition to ntfs grub will not be able to boot?
[12:08] <ardchoille> sally_: yeah, manufacturers often do that so you can restore the original OS rather than having to ship the OS CD's
[12:08] <navarone> hosler I would disconnect and open up and make sure everything is connected properly and cards are seated and such
[12:08] <hosler> k
[12:08] <fraggsta> nalioth, it's an old ibook, I'm going to use it pretty much only as something to use in bed when I'm being lazy, so I kinda need to get the trackpad to generate middle/right clicks..but I'll be heading off to google now :)
[12:08] <hosler> navarone: do you know what those things are called that go between the screws and the motherboard?
[12:08] <navarone> hosler? I've never put a machine together from scratch so you ar eahead of me on that...lol
[12:08] <nalioth> fraggsta: f12 is the right click key
[12:08] <maskd> screw mounts or something arent they
[12:08] <robotgeek> fraggsta: try F11 and F12
[12:09] <hosler> ok
[12:09] <MarcN> Miles: I always use apt-get install WHATEVER which satisfies all dependencies.  mysql's binaries should be in /usr/bin/, not under /home,  of course who knows what that fancy installer does
[12:09] <navarone> hosler> I know what you mean...like bushings or silicone washers?
[12:09] <fraggsta> nalioth/robotgeek sweet, that works great.  Thanks guys!
[12:09] <maskd> hosler: you shoudl always remember to have them, screwing the motherboard straight to the back plate can have some back side effects
[12:09] <Ganjhi> Has anybody here ever installed Wolfenstein Enemy Territory on Ubuntu? The Freeware game?
[12:09] <pashaw> hosler,   brass spacers or the tiny washers?
[12:10] <Toba> ubotu: tell me about firefox15
[12:10] <hosler> pashaw: i dont know. all i know is that they are there so the motherboard doesnt touch any metal.
[12:10] <sephran> whats the command to unmount?
[12:10] <calamari> Ganjhi: no.. I'd like to though, once I repair the fan on my 3d card
[12:10] <Zambba> sephran: umount
[12:10] <pashaw> hosler,   thats not true
[12:10] <Ganjhi> It's a pretty fun game Calamari, you'll enjoy it.
[12:11] <calamari> Ganjhi: yeah, I played it in windows
[12:11] <hosler> pashaw: then what do they do?
[12:11] <pashaw> hosler,   the screws are what grounds the motherboard to the case
[12:11] <Ganjhi> I just can't figure out how to navigate to a specific file in root terminal.
[12:11] <danny> marcN, was creating a webserver earlier and installed php, and apache2 and they work f9, i installed mysql how do i check that it is working
[12:11] <fraggsta> Ganjhi, I emerged it once while I ran gentoo (oh god I ended up hating gentoo), but that..uh...doesn't help you much sorry :S
[12:11] <MarcN> Miles:  you really want to install mysql-client because it includes mysqlcheck, mysqldump, etc.
[12:11] <Ganjhi> Other than that, it seems straight forward enough to install.
[12:11] <Zambba> Can I ask ubotu to tell me things in query?
[12:11] <pashaw> hosler,   using the washers helps you to not over tighten them
[12:11] <maskd> Ganjhi: just cd to a directory
[12:11] <hosler> oh
[12:11] <Miles> MarcN: i've got a "mysql-admin" but no mysql-client as you describe it.. so the apt-get syntax to get mysql-client is what?
[12:11] <Ganjhi> ...
[12:12] <pashaw> hosler,    you dont want to crush the board    i never use those washers   built  hmmm   50+ puters
[12:12] <maskd> Ganjhi: what happens when you use the cd command?
[12:12] <hosler> pashaw: are you sure? because my friends psu blew up and the guys who fixed it said it was because those things werent installed.
[12:12] <MarcN> Miles: mysql-admin is the MySQL gui, mysql-client is the command line set of tools.
[12:13] <pashaw> hosler,  power supplies go out all the time    has nothing to do with those washers
[12:13] <Ganjhi> I have not used the cd command, nor do I know the cd command. I'm THE linux noobie of the week.
[12:13] <maskd> hosler: it's one of those things that are better to have
[12:13] <hosler> pashaw: ok well im stumped. im pretty sure something is shorting out, but i cant figure out what.
[12:13] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Ganjhi about cli
[12:13] <maskd> Ganjhi: cd stands for current directory
[12:13] <Ganjhi> Perfect, thanks.
[12:13] <Ganjhi> This'll help loads.
[12:13] <MarcN> danny: mysql?   from the command line:   $ mysql
[12:13] <Miles> MarcN:  Ahh.. clarity.  Cool. Is there a way to determine what version of mySQL i'm using at this point, does the version of the client have to match up with the version of mysql?
[12:13] <john_> Anyone know much about Amorak?
[12:14] <pashaw> hosler,   if its shorting     hookup the motherboard and powe supply  outside the case on a clean counter top  or cardboard
[12:14] <pashaw> hosler,    wood would be good also
[12:14] <pashaw> hosler,    then you elimate the case   for the short
[12:14] <pashaw> sorry offtopic
[12:14] <navarone> hmmm...carve out stump for computer case...<s>
[12:14] <john_> I have imported many m4a and mp3 files to amorak, they all play great but they are all listed by filename and the artisit, albums etc is not shown for any? Does anyone know why?
[12:14] <danny> MarcN, it dont say owt
[12:14] <thegladiator> !paste
[12:14] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:15] <MarcN> Miles: doesn't have to be.  the client versions don't have to match the server versions.  just need to speak compatible wire protocols, which it would complain about if it was a problem.
[12:15] <danny> MarcN, not even command not found
[12:15] <oskude> i used linux like over 4years, but i never copied an audio cd, whats the "best" way ?
[12:15] <hosler> pashaw: so just never use a case?
[12:15] <danny> MarcN, does tht mean its workin?
[12:15] <MarcN> danny: then you too need to install mysql-client.
[12:15] <fraggsta> oskude, I like to use "grip"
[12:15] <lampshade> I have installed xserver-xorg, fluxbox, and now tightvncserver, how can I start X or better yet, start the vncserver and just vnc right into fluxbox?  Is that possible at this point?  DO I need to startx before vnc or does vnc start x?
[12:15] <pashaw> hosler,     thats how you troublehsoot a short
[12:16] <hosler> pashaw: and if it does keep restarting, what does that tell me?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> startx?
[12:16] <maskd> oskude: sound juicer comes with ubuntu
[12:16] <Miles> MarcN: when I ran"  sudo apt-get install mysql-client "  I got the packages have unmet dependencies errors.. did I type that incorrectly?
[12:16] <thegladiator> since a week each time I open syanaptic i get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6345 , each time i do a apt update and still it comes after next reboot
[12:16] <oskude> fraggsta: i got only one drive, does "grip" make an image firts and then burn wiht that ime ?
[12:16] <MarcN> danny: mysql is usually packaged up as a server, client and gui.  All don't need to be installed, only those pieces you may need.   say just the server or just the client, but I like to have both
[12:16] <sephran> is there a zip program for ubuntu that windows can open?
[12:17] <oskude> or, can gnomebaker copy an audio cd ?
[12:17] <meepy> I'm having a problem installing the newest guinotifications, I downloaded the source package and ./configure it - But then it gives me this error "checking for GAIM... configure: error: Package requirements (gaim) were not met" But I have gaim? :S
[12:17] <thegladiator> sephran, what exactly are you looking for ?
[12:17] <fraggsta> oskude, actually..it won't do what you want, grip is just for ripping sorry
[12:17] <gnomefreak> oskude, yes it can (should)
[12:17] <maskd> sephran: winRAR unpacks a lot of formats
[12:17] <MarcN> Miles:  install those dependencies too.
[12:17] <john_> I have imported many m4a and mp3 files to amorak, they all play great but they are all listed by filename and the artisit, albums etc is not shown for any? Does anyone know why?
[12:17] <danny> MarcN, well i put apt-get install mysql-client and it sed mysql-client is already newest version
[12:17] <thegladiator> john_, ask in #amarok
[12:17] <sephran> I just want to transfer files from this pc, to the laptop on the network.  zip it up, send it through email
[12:18] <MarcN> danny: $ mysql says not such command?
[12:18] <Miles> MarcN: all three of them that are listed say "but it is not installable" after them..
[12:18] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  try taking the in out of the list and see if it works than?
[12:18] <fraggsta> oskude, wouldn't doing this work?  "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso; cdrecord image.iso" ?
[12:18] <pashaw> hosler,   shorted power supply   or bad motherboard    shorting through the case     the washers wont fix that     or youll need em on top and bottom on the mounts and screw heads
[12:18] <danny> MarcN, yep
[12:18] <MarcN> Miles: I'd blame those random mysql debs that the installer provided you.
[12:18] <keyhack> Has anyone attempted to change Ubuntu to use bootsplash instead of usplash?
[12:18] <thegladiator> how do i gnomefreak  ?
[12:18] <oskude> OH MAN, IM SO BLIND, i think that "copy audio cd" was in gnomebaker allread, dof :)
[12:18] <oskude> dof = doh
[12:19] <MarcN> danny: does it show up when you do       dpkg -L mysql-client-4.1  ?   should be in /usr/bin/
[12:19] <oskude> but OH, seems it can only "direct copy"...
[12:19] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, in.archive.ubuntu.com i guess it my setting according to the country i belong to .
[12:20] <fraggsta> I'm curious though, WOULD making an image of an audio CD with dd and then burning it work?  I think you need to pass an argument to cdrecord to tell it you're burning an audio CD but other than that I don't see why it wouldn't
[12:20] <Miles> MarcN: perhaps we're running farther than we have to, do you know where the phpmyadmin stores it's password values?  if it gathers them from mysql, where does mysql store them, so that I can confirm that i'm using the right password?
[12:20] <hosler> pashaw: ok thanks. im gonna go experiment now.
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list once in there take in out and leave it withou a country code than save and than sudo apt-get update again
[12:20] <maskd> sephran: you can open zip files with the default archive manager that comes with ubuntu; file roller
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, you dont need the country code in there
[12:20] <sephran> I want to make the zip maskd
[12:21] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, the us repos are down alot so i took us out
[12:21] <sephran> and have windows be able to open it
[12:21] <calamari> fraggsta: does dd give you the full raw sectors?
[12:21] <MarcN> Miles: phpmyadmin takes the username/password you provide and uses it to connect to mysql.  The mysql server decides if those will let you in.
[12:21] <maskd> sephran: ah.
[12:21] <mariano> hi
[12:21] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, also while your in there let me know what the very first repo is
[12:21] <maskd> yeah you can create zips with archive manager
[12:21] <MarcN> Miles: try using localhost for hostname, root for username and blank for password.
[12:21] <maskd> sephran: you can create zips with archive manager
[12:21] <Miles> MarcN: okee, tryin
[12:21] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, is the very first one a cdrom repo?
[12:22] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, just a sec...geting into the folder
[12:22] <gnomefreak> k
[12:22] <fraggsta> Is there any PowerPC package equivalent to win32codecs, or is my dream of playing divxs doomed?
[12:22] <maskd> fraggsta: ewww divx
[12:22] <vb_coder> i have windows xp installed on a 120 gb harddrive taking up all of the space with another ntfs partition that has my backed up files saved to it. when the ubuntu partitioner came up from the install cd, it has a little lighting bolt indicating that the partition with the backed up files is the bootable partition. is this correct?
[12:22] <oskude> fraggsta: pwerpc is doomed :) scr
[12:22] <mjr> fraggsta, you should be able to play them using gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg along with totem
[12:23] <oskude> *scrn
[12:23] <danny> MarcN, it says it not installed
[12:23] <thegladiator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6346
[12:23] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, ^
[12:23] <gnomefreak> i saw ty
[12:23] <MarcN> danny:  So it isn't installed.  try    apt-cache search ^mysql-client
[12:24] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  put a # infront of that very first repo
[12:24] <vb_coder> can someone please help me install ubuntu with xp? i have been trying for days with no success
[12:24] <MarcN> danny: and then install the version it tells you.  mysql-client-4.1 in my case (on dapper).  but apt-get install mysql-client should do the right thing.
[12:24] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, and take the # away from the rest of the repos
[12:24] <maskd> is ATbot talking to anybody else?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ATbot,  how bout you dont pm me again and no i am not here to play games
[12:25] <ATbot> I am ATbot
[12:25] <Miles> MarcN: I've read abunch about mysql hashing passwords differently from version to version, could there be an incompability there?  root and blank don't work, and neither do any of the three combos i've used thruout the mahcine
[12:25] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, could you tell me in number terms ?
[12:25] <oskude> !audiocd
[12:25] <ubotu> oskude: No idea
[12:25] <oskude> :)
[12:25] <thegladiator> i dont understand this repo thing actually
[12:25] <guanaco> how do I install and run Jabber?
[12:25] <fraggsta> PPC is doomed, yes, but then I DID get a free ibook :)
[12:25] <erUSUL> vb_coder, what is the problem? it should be pretty strightforward
[12:25] <thegladiator> like the first line ?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, put a # in line 001
[12:25] <gnomefreak> before the deb
[12:25] <thegladiator> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[12:25] <erUSUL> guanaco, a jabber server? or client?
[12:26] <oskude> !copy audio cd
[12:26] <ubotu> oskude: Are you smoking crack?
[12:26] <guanaco> a server
[12:26] <oskude> DOH
[12:26] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  give me a min i will fix and paste what it should look like ok?
[12:26] <danny> MarcN, it come up wiv, mysql-client - mysql database client binaries and mysql-client-4.1 - mysql database client binaries
[12:26] <navarone> vb_coder, are both your windows partitions ntfs?
[12:26] <Epix> parted is running, system appears to be frozen!
[12:26] <thegladiator> ok thank you . that wud be perfect
[12:26] <nickrud> !tell thegladiator about components
[12:26] <MarcN> Miles: it really should be the username/password that you put in the sugar CRM configuration file.   What version did the installer provide?  3.23 or 5.0.x?  that could be a problem with a 4.1.x based clients.
[12:27] <MarcN> danny: yes, install that
[12:27] <Miles> is there a situation where phpmyadmin would be unable to communicate with mysql?
[12:27] <thegladiator> nickrud, yes ?
[12:27] <Jochen> Hi ubuntu guys
[12:27] <thegladiator> what was that about ?
[12:27] <Jochen> Can somebody tell me how to install a debian package file?
[12:27] <vb_coder> erUSUL: here is my setup. i have 2 ntfs partitions taking up the entire 120gb hdd. i want to resize the partition with windows installed. when the ubuntu partitioning tool came up, it said the partition without xp installed is the bootable partition by showing a little lightening bolt next to it. im not sure if this is correct because i thought the ntfs partition with windows installed should be the bootable partition.
[12:27] <nalioth> Jochen: what program are you wanting?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6347
[12:27] <oskude> Jochen: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[12:27] <Jochen> opera
[12:27] <danny> MarcN, wot mysql-client-4.1?
[12:27] <Jochen> thank you
[12:27] <nickrud> thegladiator, sorry, you asked for info about what repos were
[12:28] <MarcN> Miles: could be that your php doesn't have mysql support.   Create an index.php in the web space and put in it  <?phpinfo()?>  and hit it via the web.  should see something about mysql support
[12:28] <Epix> Ok, im running parted in live.  I can't seem to do this in Breezy... Anyone have any tips?
[12:29] <erUSUL> vb_coder, i guess thar XP uses ntldr in the mbr to boot itself and do not rely on the bootable partition
[12:29] <keyhack> After I have my machine installed and configured the way I want, what is the best way to snap an image of it, such that I can make a CD where I put it in the drive, and I can flash the HD?
[12:29] <oskude> i just started gnomabaker with "cd audio copy" with source and target with the same source, i hope it makes some caches (its copying something..l.)
[12:29] <erUSUL> vb_coder, once you have grub in the mbr the bootable part does not matter
[12:29] <Epix> anyone?
[12:30] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, hopefully :) i did that and saved
[12:30] <thegladiator> shud i do the update now ?
[12:30] <danny> MarcN, right it installed it
[12:30] <gnomefreak> run sudo apt-get update  you will soon find out :)
[12:30] <vb_coder> erUSUL, will i need to change which ntfs partition is bootable? maybe the little lightening bolt is there for grub?
[12:30] <MarcN> danny: now try   $ mysql
[12:31] <polpak> Epix, dunno
[12:31] <polpak> Epix, if the HD light isn't on it might be ok
[12:31] <ara> what is a .tar.hz file, ? how do i make i run???
[12:31] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, that actually includes many more repos aint it ?
[12:31] <danny> MarcN, it says command not found
[12:31] <ara> gz
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ara, its a source file and you compile it not run it
[12:31] <nalioth> ara: a tar and a gzip file are archive files
[12:31] <MarcN> danny: Try /usr/bin/mysql
[12:31] <macd> ara: untar it,
[12:31] <Travis> how can I make my own ubuntu distro? I want to basically take ubuntu install some software etc.
[12:31] <erUSUL> vb_coder, i do not think so. grub installs in the mbr of the disk not in the bootable partition (it needs some files in /boo/grub/ also)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, you had all the source repos not working
[12:31] <vb_coder> erUSUL okay i will take your advice i just want to be sure before i try this again
[12:32] <kemik> gnomefreak:  no, they're not sourcefiles.. coudl be anything inside a tar.gz archive
[12:32] <polpak> ara, or open it in the archive viewer
[12:32] <gnomefreak> kemik, good point
[12:32] <macd> ara: from terminal  tar zxvf yourfile.tar.gz or but using Ark.
[12:32] <danny> MarcN, says no such file or directory
[12:32] <macd> s/but/buy
[12:32] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, problem at my end ? or was it faulty servers that i had assigned ?
[12:32] <nalioth> Travis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[12:32] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, what happened?
[12:32] <Travis> thanks
[12:32] <navarone> vb_coder, you can also install grub on floppy...when asked to install in mbr click no and it gives option for floopy
[12:32] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, is it fixed?
[12:33] <fraggsta> I still don't know why the Ubuntu installer offered to make me a boot floppy..this ibook has no floppy drive :S
[12:33] <MarcN> danny: are you sure you installed mysql-client?   dpkg --list|grep mysql-client  should show ii in the first two columns
[12:33] <thegladiator> i cant say if it is fixed or not now because , as i asaid before , the synaptic doesnt respond after reboot
[12:33] <navarone> fraggsta, just being polite probably...lol
[12:33] <thegladiator> after apt update it works
[12:33] <danny> MarcN, no thts wrong it says ERROR 2002 (HY000): can't connect to local mysql server though socket.......
[12:33] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, you run sudo apt-get update?
[12:33] <erUSUL> vb_coder, disclaimer: playing with disks is always a bit risky i can not make any waranties...
[12:33] <Miles> MarcN: christ.  the htdocs folder in apache is locked, and I can't freaking write to it.  what is the move command in ubuntu under the command line so I can sudo it
[12:34] <thegladiator> gn0me, yeah did it
[12:34] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, any errors?
[12:34] <Miles> frasshafrackin...
[12:34] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, no errors
[12:34] <MarcN> danny: could be that mysqld wasn't started.   sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[12:34] <danny> MarcN, socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[12:34] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, it was looking for a cdrom the way you had them set
[12:34] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, oh i see
[12:34] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, now it will be going to the servers and getting the packages
[12:34] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, got it now :) thank toy for ur help
[12:35] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, thats why im here :)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ok now lets try mine brb
[12:35] <thegladiator> yes! :) go ahead
[12:35] <Jochen> Thank you people
[12:35] <MarcN> Miles:     sudo gedit /var/www/apache2-default/test.php   or maybe it is just /var/www/   the move command as root is    sudo mv file.php /var/www/
[12:35] <oskude> oh mann, gnomebaker "copy audio cd" doesnt seem to work with with one drive...
[12:35] <demens> one phat "yo" @ everyone
 It was a package specially for ubuntu maintained from opera
[12:35] <Ganjhi> I've been able to navigate to the desktop in Root Terminal, which is where I saved the Enemy Territory install file, but I've been trying to figure out how to run the file in Root Terminal for about 30 minutes :|
[12:36] <vb_coder> erUSUL, i forgot to defrag windows xp before resizing it with ubuntu. the xp install has just been installed and no files or programs were added to it
[12:36] <polpak> Ganjhi, ./filename
[12:36] <danny> MarcN, i put that and then put /usr/bin/mysql again and came up wiv same error
[12:36] <navarone> oskude> you should be able to...it should ripp an image first and then prompt you to replace cd in drive with blank cd-r...<?>
[12:36] <demens> anybody knows about fluxboxchannel in german
[12:36] <demens> ?
[12:36] <Jochen> Opera breezy badger browser package available to download as debian format
[12:36] <polpak> Ganjhi, if it says permission denied you may need to chmod +x the file first
[12:36] <Jochen> and very fast the browser
[12:36] <MarcN> danny: is mysqld running?  Try    ps auwx|grep mysql
[12:36] <Jochen> unbelievable
[12:36] <Jochen> Well thank you guys.
[12:36] <Jochen> bye!
[12:36] <Miles> php 4.4.0
[12:36] <Epix_> god damn. parted crashed my system during a resize
[12:36] <nalioth> demens: velicht #ubuntu-de ?
[12:37] <Ganjhi> That's what I though, I tried both of those, but for some reason it says the file does not exist
[12:37] <polpak> Ganjhi, then you're not in the correct directory
[12:37] <Miles> try www.vtsugar.com/supernerf.php
[12:37] <polpak> Ganjhi, ls should list the file
[12:37] <oskude> hmm,k3b works the tracks way more faster than gnomebaker...
[12:37] <fmus> is there any way to auto mount a usb thumb drive on a headless breezy machine?
[12:37] <navarone> oskude then use whatever works best
[12:37] <danny> MarcN, nothing came up not even command not found
[12:38] <polpak> fmus, I think breezy will auto mount it
[12:38] <oskude> navarone: yeah, but i wanted to use gnome stuff :(
[12:38] <macd> danny: ps az | grep postmaster
[12:38] <macd> az = ax
[12:38] <fmus> polpak: it does, but only if you're logged in to gnome.
[12:38] <polpak> fmus, just plug it in and cd /media
[12:39] <navarone> oskude> then the extra time working the tracks can be spent admiring your gnome desktop...<s>
[12:39] <polpak> fmus, I think the auto mount daemon is independant of the X server
[12:39] <MarcN> danny: then it doesn't seem that mysql server is running.  check to see if there is an err file in /var/log/mysql/*
[12:39] <Ganjhi> Great, it's working!
[12:39] <oskude> navarone: lol :)
[12:39] <fmus> polpak: oh. well, if that's the case, it isn't working. when I log in to gnome (via xnest), it works, though.
[12:39] <fraggsta> my mouse cursor is black..how do I make it white?  The twist is...I'm using XFCE!
[12:39] <vb_coder> i forgot to defrag windows xp before resizing it with ubuntu. the windows install had just been installed without any other programs installed. ubuntus documentation does not say to defrag before resizing the windows partition. will this corrupt windows?
[12:40] <macd> haha@ fraggsta
[12:40] <macd> it might dissappear!
[12:40] <navarone> vb-I would defrag first
[12:40] <erUSUL> vb_coder, no i do not think so
[12:40] <polpak> fmus, I could be wrong
[12:40] <polpak> fmus, lemme see if I can find anything
[12:40] <MarcN> danny: did you start mysql as root?    sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[12:40] <navarone> vb_coder,  but mileage varies
[12:40] <bobesponja> hey all
[12:40] <bobesponja> do you know how I can get my usb mouse to work again?  Error: mount: mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: Input/Ouytput error. a few of those for digfferent places then: Target FS doesnt hve /sbin/init!
[12:40] <fraggsta> macd, trying GNOME was no joke on this machine, since it only has 64 MB of RAM :)
[12:40] <purpleheart_USMC> vb_coder: it worked okay for me
[12:40] <danny> MarcN, yea i was already logged into root su -
[12:41] <MarcN> danny: yes, you need to be root.   sudo -s then cd /var/log/mysql/   then ls *.err
[12:41] <polpak> Epix, do you have a backup?
[12:41] <macd> fraggsta: yeah, thats not quite enough, I like fluxbox ::)
[12:41] <macd> or blackbox
[12:41] <vb_coder> purpleheart_USMC, are you saying that ubuntu installed with xp without defragging or corrupting windows?
[12:41] <nalioth> danny: use sudo
[12:41] <purpleheart_USMC> vb_coder: yes
[12:41] <oskude> oh man, am so sad, k3b rules over gnomebaker when copying and audiocd witn only one cd writer :(
[12:41] <fraggsta> macd, maybe, but fluxbox relies a lot on right-clicking, which is going to get annoying on an ibook where right-click = F12..
[12:41] <MarcN> danny: you can also check /var/log/daemon.log for any mention of why mysql didn't startup
[12:42] <maskd> oskude: Sound Juicer is a very nice program
[12:42] <Epix_> SAVE ME!
[12:42] <MarcN> danny: sudo grep mysql /var/log/daemon.log
[12:42] <erUSUL> Epix, maybe after using parted the numbering of your partitions changed and you need to update menu.lst and fstab
[12:42] <macd> you can change fluxboxs default behavior
[12:42] <pashaw> Epix,  you resized   or     added/deleted a partition
[12:42] <oskude> it seems gnome looses in audio cd copy with one cd writer, doh... :(
[12:43] <lampshade> I have vncserver installed already, but when I vnc over to the machine, there is nothing there(fluxbox doesn't appear to be started)  what do I need to do?  I'm not exactly sure
[12:43] <danny> MarcN, quite a bit came from that
[12:44] <danny> MarcN, wot am i ment to be lookin for in that
[12:44] <polpak> fmus, check this out. It might help: http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html
[12:44] <MarcN> danny: should give you a clue.  What is the last mysql line talking about?  look for anything like an error.
[12:44] <melodie> Epix_, I propose a direct chat to you, to try helping
[12:44] <vb_coder> so many people are downloading jdk 1.5 (java development kit), the download is unavailable
[12:45] <fraggsta> maybe they found out about JDoom?
[12:45] <vb_coder> is gij used the same way to launch java programs from the command line?
[12:45] <polpak> fmus, or this http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/
[12:45] <fraggsta> or that Java port of Quake 2, that thing was amazing
[12:46] <danny> MarcN, the last line says Dec 29 23:29:07 localhost mysqld_safe[22688]  ended
[12:46] <danny> MarcN, it dont says erro such and such anywhere
[12:46] <MarcN> danny: and a little before that?
[12:46] <oskude> oh man, im so dissappointed abiut gnomebaker :(
[12:47] <HymnToLife> oskude > get k3b :)
[12:47] <oskude> HymnToLife: yeah, but i love gnome :)
[12:48] <HymnToLife> oskude > you can run KDE apps in gnome
[12:48] <oskude> but ist seem copying from audio cd to audio cd with one cd burner is not what gnoem wants...
[12:48] <HymnToLife> it wil just take a little more time to download all the KDE libs, but it's worth it
[12:48] <oskude> HymnToLife: of course, but is till prefer gnome apps...
[12:49] <Miles> MarcN: Thanks for the help, i've got other items to attend to, perhaps see you back here soon.
[12:49] <maskd> oskude: you can rip the songs with Sound Juicer then burn the audio cd with Serpetine
[12:49] <BxL> if gnome doesn't want it, it's not worth it.
[12:49] <Miles> Danke!
[12:49] <Malachi> Does anyone know if there is a virtual printer that will allow you to print to a PDF?
[12:49] <HymnToLife> oskude > I prefer the ones who work best ;)
[12:49] <danny> MarcN, Dec 29 23:29:07 locvalhost mysqld[14221] : 051229 23:29:07 /usr/sbin/mysqld: shutdown complete
[12:50] <oskude> maskd: well, i wanted a "one-click" solution in gnome (like k3b)...
[12:50] <oskude> a = an
[12:50] <spoo> hi all. can anyone help. newbie to unbuntu here and i'm having some difficulty running dvd's anyone have any ideas please?
[12:50] <MarcN> danny: and before that?  It is saying it shutdown.  you want to figure out why it is shutting down when  you tell it to start the daemon.
[12:50] <maskd> oskude: it's still all gnome apps ;)
[12:51] <danny> MarcN, spz bout this but im new to the whole linux
[12:51] <oskude> maskd: hmm, and why its not implemented in gnomebaker ?
[12:51] <maskd> oskude: no idea mate
[12:51] <maskd> oskude: i never use audio cd's myself sorry, one you get an mp3 player you dont look back
[12:51] <gnomefreak> this cant be a good sign :(
[12:51] <oskude> maskd: you mean sound juicer and serpentine are gnome apps ?
[12:52] <|GaiJin|> Is there a im client that lets you chat with msn, with webcam??
[12:52] <maskd> oskude: yep
[12:52] <MarcN> danny: from one window do;       sudo tail -f /var/log/daemon.log   and from another  do;       sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start     you should see what is happending in the tail window.
[12:52] <oskude> maskd: i allso never used ausio cds, my GF just wanted to fast copy an audio cd..
[12:52] <navarone> oskude do you have two burners?
[12:52] <oskude> navarone: nope
[12:52] <pashaw> Malachi,   google  print pdf linux   there are lots of guides
[12:52] <gnomefreak> my applications menu is crashing grrrrrrrrrrr
[12:52] <maskd> oskude: sound juicer rips to ogg, serpentine burns the ogg's
[12:52] <oskude> maskd: lol
[12:52] <Malachi> pashaw: You mean print a website to a pdf?
[12:52] <maskd> oskude: you wouldnt happen to also have an xp machine with nero?
[12:53] <maskd> i always found that burning works better on windows
[12:53] <oskude> how about gnomebaker just making a cache file and burning with the same drive,, nope...
[12:53] <oskude> maskd: i dont have any windoze anyomre
[12:53] <navarone> oskude...gnomebaker has one click to copy audio cd...is the problem simply the speed?
[12:53] <pashaw> Malachi,   your print job  becomes a pdf
[12:53] <Malachi> Okay.
[12:53] <Malachi> pashaw: So google print pdf linux. I'll try...thanks
[12:53] <oskude> navarone: the problem with gnomebaker is that idont have to cdrom drives
[12:54] <Ng> you could print to a postscript file and install ps2pdf
[12:54] <xiaogil> how to cat the syslog ?
[12:54] <lampshade> how do I create default xsessions so that when I vnc into a machine it has fluxbox loaded?
[12:54] <navarone> oskude...doesn't gnome first rip an image of tracks and thenh prompt for blank cd-r?
[12:54] <Ng> xiaogil: "tail -100 /var/log/syslog" will show you the last 100 lines
[12:54] <spoozy> Has anyone had problems running DVD's?
[12:55] <oskude> navarone: gnomebaker did read my audio cd, but spit errors when trying to burn on the same cd that i read, lol (didnt ask for an empty cd in the same drive)
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> spoozy,  you mean playing comercial dvd's ?
[12:55] <navarone> hmm
[12:55] <spoozy> yes, don't have sound or playback :(
[12:56] <vb_coder> why did i recieve a ctcp version from freenode-connect (whatever that means)
[12:56] <danny> MarcN, in 1 terminal i put the satrt bit and it jsut went bk to danny@blah:~$
[12:56] <MarcN> danny: put the mysql related stuff in pastebin
[12:56] <Evil_Whisper> whats the key sequence for xkill?
[12:56] <oskude> i love gnome, but when it comes to multimedia, it somehow sucks like bigtime...
[12:56] <vb_coder> why did i recieve a ctcp version from freenode-connect (whatever that means)
[12:56] <danny> MarcN, how do i get oto paste bin i forgot
[12:57] <maskd> oskude: i can play anything i want multimedia wise ;)
[12:57] <MarcN> danny: right.  the /etc/init.d/mysql start goes in the background.     You should see stuff in the tail window.  pastebin I forget too
[12:57] <vb_coder> Im going to edit the boot.ini file to have a dual boot with linux
[12:57] <pashaw> Evil_Whisper,   you mean  ctrl+alt+ backspace  ?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> spoozy,  you proberly got to install a few 'extra' things to get them to work.. check the wiki under the 'restricted formats' section I think is the details.
[12:57] <oskude> maskd: yeah, i can play too, but can you make ?!
[12:57] <danny> !pastebin
[12:57] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:57] <Evil_Whisper> pashaw I mean the one that brings out the skull and crossbones allowing you to kill a single application
[12:58] <spoozy> Thanks Doc ;)
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> Evil_Whisper,  i just use the 'run' dialog and type 'xkill'
[12:58] <Evil_Whisper> Dr_Willis is there a way to set up a hotkey for that in gnome?
[12:59] <oskude> now i dont wonder why Linus said "use KDE" :)
[12:59] <danny> MarcN, there is called dannymysql
[01:00] <markus-_-> can i just click a run file to make it install?
[01:01] <maskd> Evil_Whisper: you can create a little launcher for xkill
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Evil_Whisper,  proberly is...
[01:01] <MarcN> danny: that is a shutdown, now do a startup
[01:01] <purpleheart_USMC> what are pgp keysigns?
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Evil_Whisper,  but its the kind of thing i use perhaps once a month. :P
[01:01] <oskude> pgp = pretty good privacy
[01:01] <lampshade> Anyone know how to create a .xsession file for fluxbox?  I have fluxbox installed, but when I vnc over I get nothing but a blank screen and an error about not having my xsession file.
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  run it from the shell.
[01:01] <ahmed> hi all
[01:01] <ahmed> what
[01:02] <navarone> Evil_Whisper, pressing alt-f2 will bring up dialog where you can type command for progs as well
[01:02] <ahmed> any one there
[01:02] <Evil_Whisper> ok
[01:02] <markus-_-> how do i do that Dr_Willis ?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> lampshade,  edit the file with 1 line 'exec fluxbox'
[01:02] <markus-_-> cd to the directory
[01:02] <markus-_-> then what
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  type ./whatevertorun   :P
[01:02] <danny> MarcN, how do i do tht sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start ?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  makes sence eh?
[01:02] <pashaw> Evil_Whisper,    just make a custom hotkey with xkill as command      some people use ctlr+alt+x
[01:02] <madraykin> What in ubuntu livecd I can't do that I can do in the installation CD?
[01:02] <MarcN> danny: from the command line:             sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:03] <maskd> lol im stupid, i was trying alt + f2, alt + f1, alt + f3, alt + f4...
[01:03] <maskd> woops
[01:03] <markus-_-> so when you say shell is that the same as terminal?
[01:03] <Evil_Whisper> pashaw where do I go to do that?
[01:03] <nalioth> markus-_-: yes
[01:03] <linzgaueddie> hi
[01:03] <odat> who know how to create a disk image from a copy protected cd???
[01:03] <jvai_> u cant raise the resolution on the live cd, for 1
[01:03] <markus-_-> and when it prompts me where to install it..... what directory should i use if i want all users to play the game
[01:04] <nalioth> odat: you'll need to ask somewhere else
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  what game?
[01:04] <madraykin> jvai_: thats so true, lol
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  the terminal window runs a shell.
[01:04] <markus-_-> wolfenstein enemy territory
[01:04] <BxL> you can't upgrade the kernel on the liveCD, I tryed it, everything die.
[01:04] <danny> MarcN, done tht now do i do sudo tail -f /var.............
[01:04] <madraykin> javi: and I can't install stuff in the livecd huh
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[01:04] <madraykin> BxL: LOL
[01:04] <MarcN> danny: you should have left the tail -f running.
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  it asks you if you want to install it for all users or just the 1.
[01:04] <odat> nalioth, no hints?
[01:05] <markus-_-> no it asks what directory
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  you may need to do a 'sudo ./whteveritiscalled.run
[01:05] <jvai_> i mailed some1 a copy of hoary live, but i dont think she can use it to install
[01:05] <nalioth> odat: we don't discuss breaking copy protection in here
[01:05] <odat> nalioth, k
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  i just let it install to the defaults for my single user.. perhaps put it in /opt/games  if you want.
[01:05] <ompaul> jvai_, send them to shipit and they can get breezy :-)
[01:05] <markus-_-> can i put it in /usr ?
[01:05] <danny> MarcN, yep and nothing changed in the terminal, with tail.... put in it
[01:06] <markus-_-> or would that be bad?
[01:06] <nalioth> markus-_-: dont mess with your filesystm outside of /usr/local or /opt/
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  You COULD.. you proberly DONT want to .. :P
[01:06] <jvai_> but they only have dial up.. that kill'd them ever using unbuntu
[01:06] <MarcN> danny: keep tail -f running and then do sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start (again)
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  since you got no reason to put it in /usr/ i say put it in /opt/whatever
[01:06] <markus-_-> k
[01:07] <jvai_> the beauty of broadband
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> Of course now a days finding a decent RTCW:ET server is the problem :P
[01:07] <franky123> i'm having a problem getting wine to recognize /media/cdrom0 is my cdrom drive even though i changed the wine config file . help?
[01:08] <danny> MarcN, thts wot i did but nothing happened, idid the same again and still nothing happened
[01:08] <madraykin> ok so I want to dual boot ubuntu... right now I have WinXP. I think it takes up the whole hard drive, so is it possible to resize the partiton so ubuntu can fit in?
[01:08] <ilba7r> how can i list the program instances that i created in a terminal using the & ie running in the terminal background?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> gnome menu is controled by metacity?
[01:08] <oskude> resize = evil
[01:08] <nandro> can anyone tell me how to have a bit torrent client save a flie to a newtwork drive?  All I see are options for the local drive even though a w2k server folder is mapped
[01:08] <MarcN> danny: nothing in daemon.log?    Try     sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/mysql start     it will dump to the terminal all the shell script steps it takes.
[01:08] <fraggsta> ilba7r, "jobs"
[01:09] <ilba7r> fraggsta thanx will try it
[01:09] <jvai_> she lives in pine bluff, ala. there may not be any wifi sigs to steal there, & she's doin dial up.. i feel pity for her, she cant use ubuntu
[01:09] <navarone> oskude...you're drunk though remmebr...? <s>
[01:09] <Viper550> Hello! I'm also in Ubuntu-Meeting
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> ilba7r,  http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php       has a section on job controll
[01:09] <ilba7r> thanx fraggsta but how to display also the process id
[01:09] <MarcN> Viper550: what is the purpose of ubuntu-meeting?
[01:09] <ilba7r> thanx Dr_willis will read the link
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> it details the fundamental com,mands you are asking about :P
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> ilba7r,  'ps' shows the  pid's :P
[01:10] <Viper550> Is this an Ubuntu Development channel? Also, an art team meeting is in there right now
[01:10] <oskude> navarone: yeah, im way over to the dark side, so pleas ignore my comments :)
[01:10] <madraykin> ok so I want to dual boot ubuntu... right now I have WinXP. I think it takes up the whole hard drive, so is it possible to resize the partiton so ubuntu can fit in?
[01:10] <franky123> dont trust resizing utilities
[01:10] <ilba7r> thanx again Dr_willis no off to reading the link :)
[01:10] <SlipAway172> When i try to browse my network from a windows machine and i try to look at my ubuntu machine it will always prompt me for a name and password. i tryed my account and the root. why does it ask me for this?
[01:10] <navarone> oskude...I am your father...<asthmatic breathing>
[01:10] <gnomefreak> Viper550:  i cant find dapper art :(
[01:11] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:11] <franky123> madraykin: i would recommend backing up your files and reinstalling windows .. resizing isn't reliable and you'll want to back up your files before that anyways
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> SlipAway172,  you Must make a 'samba' password for the users who hiome dirs you want to share.
[01:11] <SlipAway172> Oooh
[01:11] <madraykin> Hmm
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> SlipAway172,  sudo  smbpasswd -a username
[01:11] <oskude> navarone: nice try :)
[01:11] <madraykin> I'll try out LiveCD for now
[01:11] <danny> MarcN, K it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:11] <Viper550> #ubuntu-meeting
[01:11] <jvai_> hey, if sum1's usin WIN me, can they load the live cd (hoary) into the optic drive, then open the apps within to use them?
[01:11] <madraykin> until I get da groove
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> SlipAway172,  you may have to restart samba services also.. i forget...
[01:12] <fraggsta> I've no idea why, but fluxbox just took longer than XFCE to start..
[01:12] <oskude> navarone: i know how to use the "bright side" :)
[01:12] <SlipAway172> ok i will write that down and use that on my other machine. im on windows now for a laptop becuase ubuntu will not work on it :(
[01:12] <Kindred> madraykin,  I resized my windows partition fine with the install, you can certainly do it... backup of course though.
[01:12] <franky123> fluxbox is actually not too bad of a window manager :)
[01:12] <navarone> franky123, how does reinstalling windows help resize his drive?
[01:12] <SlipAway172> Dr_Willis thankyou
[01:12] <Kyral> Fluxbox > You
[01:12] <nandro> anyone?  is there a way to have linux see a mounted smb folder as a regular folder?
[01:13] <fraggsta> question is, why did it take ages to start - it seemed to do nothing for about 15 seconds before loading
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> nandro,  in what way is it 'different' ?
[01:13] <franky123> navarone: reinstall and then repartition?
[01:13] <heng> which package name refer to the j2sdk1.4 in apt-get way ? apt-get install j2sdk seems didnt work, hehe
[01:13] <nandro> when I try to download a torrent it will give me the option to save to any local folder
[01:13] <nandro> even though the server shares are mounted and showing
[01:14] <franky123> heng: are you trying to install the sun java sdk for like eclipse ?
[01:14] <manny> anyone know what the default su password is
[01:14] <danny> MarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:14] <nandro> basicly I have a linux box with a 2.5G HD
[01:14] <SlipAway172> is none for su
[01:14] <SlipAway172> try YOUR password
[01:14] <nandro> and need to save to the network
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> manny,  you just asked Faq #1 :P
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> manny,  use 'sudo' not 'su'
[01:15] <heng> franky123: thanks for the reply, nope, just want to do it in the apt-get way as those in rpm , hehe
[01:15] <ompaul> !tell manny about sudo
[01:15] <SlipAway172> sudo is temporary , su is to login as root
[01:15] <WorstPhobia> pashaw: When using ps2pdf, the PDF doesn't view correctly in evince.
[01:15] <ompaul> manny, please look at the message from the bot ubotu
[01:15] <navarone> franky123, if he going to backup his files he may as well try resizing first and then reinstall windows if needed...defragging windows before resize would be good idea though
[01:15] <SlipAway172> (my understanding)
[01:15] <WorstPhobia> pashaw: Any idea why?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> SlipAway172,  not always :P
[01:15] <manny> ok
[01:15] <danny> MarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:15] <ompaul> SlipAway172, stop - read the same documention - excuse me for wearing jackboots and trampling on your parade
[01:16] <danny> MarcN, u still about?
[01:16] <heng> franky123: any idea ? please help, hehe
[01:16] <SlipAway172> lol
[01:16] <ompaul> !tell SlipAway172 about sudo
[01:16] <ilba7r> heng follow ubotu link
[01:16] <SlipAway172> oh no
[01:16] <ilba7r> !java
[01:16] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:16] <heng> thanks, trying..
[01:16] <spoozy> Thanks Dr_Willis. Had all the right files just needed to change the setting on hdparm. Cheers.
[01:17] <danny> MarcN, u still therecan anyone lse confirm they can see this
[01:17] <danny> MarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:18] <danny> anyone else see this
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> danny,  see what?
[01:19] <danny> thts ok
[01:19] <danny> someone was helpin me out
[01:19] <jvai_> ##
[01:19] <danny> i didnt no if they were gettin the messages on here
[01:20] <heng> thanks, all, I tried apt-get install j2re1.4  and go this error : Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. I have already enabled all the repositories in resouces.list file, anything else I can do ?
[01:20] <xenex> !uset autoinvite 1
[01:20] <ubotu> xenex: Not a clue
[01:21] <ilba7r> heng which java are you trying to install
[01:21] <danny> MarcN, it says, + set - e, +set -u, +test -x /usr/sbin/mysqld, +exit 0
[01:21] <ilba7r> sun or blackdown
[01:21] <ilba7r> !javadeb
[01:21] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[01:21] <heng> ilbr7r: sun's latested 1.4 series
[01:22] <ilba7r> heng look ar ubotu link
[01:22] <heng> ubotu: thanks, multiverse has been enabled in sources.list.
[01:22] <ubotu> heng: bitte
[01:22] <wza> anyone know how to access another subnet?
[01:23] <heng> ilba7r: thanks, I will try that link from ubotu
[01:23] <oskude> !java evil
[01:23] <ubotu> oskude: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:24] <heng> oops, it has j2sdk 1.5 on that link but I need j2sdk 1.4.10, :-)
[01:24] <Seveas> heng, mirror.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:24] <heng> thanks, add mirror.ubuntulinux.nl into sources.list ?
[01:25] <Seveas> surf to the page, click java, click the version you want
[01:25] <heng> thanks,doing so
[01:25] <oskude> hmm, where so people _REALLY_ need java ?
[01:25] <oskude> si = do
[01:26] <oskude> doh, so = do
[01:26] <Seveas> do re mi fa so la ti :p
[01:26] <noruas> HiddenFly, everybody..............;
[01:26] <noruas> oups
[01:26] <noruas> Hello
[01:26] <Seveas> noruas, don't over-use <tab> :)
[01:27] <noruas> lol
[01:27] <danny> MarcN, u still around
[01:28] <silverpower> I'm currently running the ppc install CD, and the install process keeps stopping at 'Partition Disks
[01:28] <silverpower> What can I do?
[01:28] <noruas> I'm a noob in Ubuntu and in IRC :-p
[01:30] <nalioth> silverpower: verify your installation media
[01:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell silverpower about verify
[01:30] <danny> !help
[01:30] <Thel> Hi all, I've got an aggravating sound problem: no sound ever plays on my Ubuntu machine. Closer inspection reveals a complete lack of /dev/dsp ... how can I rectify that issue?
[01:30] <interfear> mine keeps saying error reading data from cdrom
[01:30] <interfear> and halts mid install
[01:30] <Thel> I have a SoundBlaster in the machine, and I have installed alsa
[01:30] <interfear> and ive burned 2 cds already
[01:30] <mwe> !sound
[01:30] <ubotu> it has been said that sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:31] <sambagirl> chao
[01:31] <sambagirl> i have an external protocal request dialog box and i have cancelled it 100 times but it still is there, how do i remove it?
[01:31] <mwe> Thel: try the links ubotu suggested
[01:31] <danny> seveas, im pretty much new to linux have u got any links to things i can learn things from?
[01:31] <Thel> Checking these out right now, thanks
[01:32] <Seveas> danny, apt-get install rutebook
[01:32] <PeteyPablo> sup skon
[01:32] <skon> Hello
[01:32] <navarone> Seveas rutel or rule?
[01:32] <Seveas> rutebook - Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book
[01:33] <danny> Thanks
[01:33] <silverpower> nalioth: it's checking, it'll take a while, my Pismo isn't the fastest thing out there. :D
[01:33] <skon> On a live CD now...trying to resize partitions. I want to shrink my ntfs and grow my ext2. I can shrink the ntfs (which is the first partition) but how do I grow my ext2 into the free space?
[01:33] <navarone> is rute just "leet" for root?
[01:33] <nalioth> silverpower: check both the iso image and the burnt cd
[01:34] <xiaogil> even after purging mysql, it still doesn't after reinstalling, what can i do then to make it work ?
[01:34] <silverpower> nalioth: yep, the CD is corrupt. :(
[01:34] <nalioth> silverpower: burn the next one as slowly as your machine will burn
[01:34] <interfear> is there a way to do an internet install?
[01:34] <danny> Seveas, its done now how do i get to it
[01:35] <Seveas> danny, go to /usr/share/doc/rutebook
[01:36] <skon> Anyone know how to grow ext3 from free space before it??
[01:37] <silverpower> nalioth: It's burning at 8x now, and I don't see any buffer underruns. (Should've known better than to run the burner at max speed on this ancient box of mine. :facepalm:)
[01:37] <ScislaC> does fast user switching (specifically ctrl+alt+f8) work for anyone using Breezy?
[01:38] <ScislaC> it worked fine in Hoary, now it basically goes to terminal output from bootup, instead of switching back to the appropriate user
[01:38] <nalioth> silverpower: over the past year+ i've seen that the slower the burn, the better chance of quality you have
[01:38] <ompaul> ScislaC, 8 should be the output of dmesg iirc
[01:38] <paal> how do I change my keyboardlayout in terminal?
[01:38] <PeteyPablo> nalioth, especially for video, 4x is fastest you should go
[01:39] <mwe> ctrl+alt+f8 gives me a black screen
[01:39] <ScislaC> ompaul: ahhh, that's what it is then... it worked in hoary though which is kinda weird
[01:39] <nalioth> silverpower: see PeteyPablo's statement
[01:39] <kurros> poot poot
[01:39] <PeteyPablo> nalioth, for music i don't think it really matters? or atleast i have never noticed a difference
[01:40] <nalioth> PeteyPablo: i'm not in this channel to discuss burning music or video, just the *buntu iso images
[01:40] <navarone> silverpower, I try not to burn data at anything over 8x...I have made my share of coasters
[01:40] <G2C> Hello All
[01:40] <PeteyPablo> nalioth, when i burned mine it was at 40x and it worked fine to install on two pc's
[01:40] <skon> Can someone help me expand an ext3 partition to fill free space _before_ it?
[01:40] <danny> Seveas, thanks got to it
[01:41] <silverpower> yeah, especially since I'm forking out $1.50 or so per coaster. (don't ask.)
[01:41] <G2C> Anyone help me out here with ubuntu?
[01:41] <steveO_Office> whats up?
[01:41] <navarone> Seveas I dl'ed rutebook pdf...it should keep me awake at night...lol
[01:41] <steveO_Office> G2C, whats up?
[01:41] <nalioth> PeteyPablo: different cd burners work differently, it always works at 2x
[01:42] <G2C> steveO_Office , well , how easy is it to install?
[01:42] <steveO_Office> in grub menu.list whats ro quiet for?
[01:42] <steveO_Office> G2C, what are you installing it on?
[01:43] <steveO_Office> G2C, for the most part its a walk in the park
[01:43] <Snake__> Hey guys, quick security question, is there anyway to view traffic going through my network without modifying my routers software??
[01:43] <skon> Snake__: etherape, ethereal
[01:43] <Hotwheelz> Ive got a real quick question about the Ubuntu live CD that came in the mail today....it wont load the live cd, it goes straight into the install, which I dont want.
[01:43] <nalioth> Snake__: your box will need to be in line with the network packets
[01:43] <paal> can anyone help me out?
[01:43] <Snake__> skon: neither will show me all the network traffic, just between mine
[01:43] <Hotwheelz> It says hit enter to load live cd, which I do. Am I missing something?
[01:44] <G2C> steveO_Office - its a AMD Athlon 1.53 ghz 256 RAM
[01:44] <skon> Hotwheelz: if you put in the live cd, it needs to setup first, follow the instructions
[01:44] <steveO_Office> video card?
[01:44] <Snake__> nalioth: So my box needs to be the router?
[01:44] <vb_coder> ive reinstalled xp and linux about 20 times now trying to get a dual boot to work and i still get an error when booting xp saying hal.dll error it is corrupted or missing
[01:44] <G2C> steveO_Office yes
[01:44] <nalioth> Snake__: we've discussed this before, iirc
[01:44] <skon> Snake__: etherape shows you the traffice from other computers on the network too
[01:44] <PeteyPablo> vb_coder, tried to repair the xp install?
[01:44] <Snake__> nalioth: Yes I know, but there has to be a way
[01:44] <steveO_Office> G2C, what video card?
[01:45] <nalioth> Snake__: buy another NIC and make your box the router
[01:45] <G2C> fuck, how do i find out - its a seperate comp bside me
[01:45] <Snake__> nalioth: I didnt want to deal with all that lol
[01:45] <nalioth> G2C: please respect us with your language choices
[01:45] <steveO_Office> g2c what os are you running at this time?
[01:46] <G2C> Well this is Xp the one infront is OS'less
[01:46] <silverpower> Snake__: If you have a Linksys router, some 3rd-party firmwares should have the functionality you need.
[01:46] <skon> Snake__: etherape does the job for me, dunno what more you need out of it
[01:46] <Snake__> ill try etherape
[01:46] <G2C> steveO_Office, are the system specs ok ?
[01:46] <scenestar> hello
[01:46] <heng> Seveas: thanks, it did work fine ( java apt-get ) though when doing apt-get update I got pgp auth failure error, hehe
[01:46] <scenestar> how can i get the righclick launch terminal thing back
[01:47] <scenestar> like in 5.04
[01:47] <steveO_Office> ok then just go for it it should be fine you can goole ubuntu starter guide for more help after that
[01:47] <G2C> scenestar - go back to HTS
[01:47] <scenestar> i cant find it anyways on the forums
[01:47] <scenestar> wtf
[01:47] <nalioth> scenestar: nautilus-terminal-here   is in the repos
[01:47] <scenestar> thank you
[01:47] <scenestar> g2c hts are the suxx
[01:47] <nalioth> scenestar: mayby open-terminal-here (i can't remember)
[01:47] <scenestar> i kick banned all the total idiots
[01:47] <G2C> scenestar you are always on it
[01:47] <silverpower> Okay, CD burned sucessfully, I'm booting it now.
[01:48] <GNAM> on my utilities-multiverse there's only 'f-prot-installer'
[01:48] <GNAM> where's done RAR?
[01:48] <Shadyman> scenestar: But i'm still here?
[01:48] <Shadyman> lol jk
[01:48] <crimsun> GNAM: unrar-nonfree?
[01:48] <GNAM> no
[01:48] <GNAM> rar-nonfree
[01:48] <scenestar> wait
[01:48] <scenestar> you guys are htssers too right
[01:48] <crimsun> !info rar
[01:49] <ubotu> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB
[01:49] <nalioth> guerby: unrar-nonfree
[01:49] <nalioth> GNAM: unrar-nonfree
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> I cheat and use wine and winrar :P
[01:49] <GNAM> auauau
[01:49] <cafuego> ./me hasn't been near any hts for a decade and a half
[01:49] <GNAM> unrar-nonfree?
[01:49] <crimsun> GNAM: I just pointed you to rar, if that's what you're asking after
[01:50] <GNAM> uhm
[01:50] <skon> DrWillis: you know they make winrar for linux?
[01:50] <steveO_Office> ? in grub menu.list whats ro quiet for?
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> skon,  never noticed it when i redownloaded winrar today.
[01:50] <GNAM> where can I find your suggested sources.list?
[01:50] <crimsun> read-only, suppress kernel ring buffer spew
[01:50] <Shadyman> !sources
[01:50] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GNAM about repos
[01:51] <GNAM> i've enabled multiverse
[01:51] <GNAM> and universe
[01:51] <Snake__> skon: no sutible interface was found
[01:51] <GNAM> but no rar
[01:51] <skon> DrWillis: http://www.rarlabs.com/rar/rarlinux-3.5.1.tar.gz
[01:51] <scenestar>  oi nalioth
[01:51] <vb_coder> PeteyPablo, yes i am going to try again
[01:51] <Snake__> thats what etherape tells me
[01:51] <scenestar> thanks a breeze
[01:51] <skon> Snake__: you have to run it as root
[01:51] <nalioth> GNAM: it's 'unrar-nonfree'
[01:51] <scenestar> now
[01:51] <Snake__> skon: oh ok
[01:51] <scenestar> last annoing question
[01:51] <scenestar> how can i get rid of that pussy package manager
[01:51] <silverpower> Is the installer going to complain if my ubuntu partition is at the end of the disk? (I'm on ppc, BTW, running a NewWorld G3.)
[01:51] <_jeff> hey guys
[01:51] <scenestar> and replace it with synaptic?
[01:51] <cafuego> scenestar: Mind your language.
[01:51] <Toma-> scenestar: what package manager is that?
[01:52] <dereks_> alsa is failing to setup on boot, which log would info be in
[01:52] <cafuego> Toma-: 'cat' I imagine.
[01:52] <crimsun> dereks_: none
[01:52] <Toma-> "apt-cache search pussy" returns nothing :)
[01:52] <Seveas> cafuego, we currently have a zero-tolerance policy as you see :)
[01:52] <dereks_> crimsun: how can i debug the problem?
[01:52] <_jeff> does anybody else find that networking with windows machines has become more difficult in breezy?
[01:52] <Snake__> skon: it still only shows me my traffic
[01:52] <crimsun> dereks_: give me more detailed debugging info
[01:52] <cafuego> Seveas: Yeah, not a bad idea for what appears to be an extremely long weekend ;-)
[01:52] <skon> Someone know how to get an ext3 partition to claim free space _before_ it ?
[01:52] <nalioth> zero-tolerance especially if we know you know better
[01:52] <dereks_> crimsun: all it said was failed, i want to know where to find more debugging info
[01:53] <crimsun> dereks_: you're talking to him.
[01:53] <psusi> skon, gparted?
[01:53] <crimsun> dereks_: sound chipset?
[01:53] <dereks_> oh, hehe
[01:53] <igotowned> dude
[01:53] <dereks_> its an audiology2
[01:53] <skon> Snake__: I run it when I bring my laptop to schoola nd I can see all the traffic that every computer in the school has
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> skon,  i dont see those haveing the winrar gui.
[01:53] <_jeff> can anybody help me share files between my ubuntu and windows computers?
[01:53] <Snake__> skon: Thats because you school uses a hub
[01:53] <Snake__> skon: not a router ;)
[01:53] <skon> Snake__: get a hub :-D
[01:53] <crimsun> dereks_: do you mean 'audigy2'?
[01:53] <Snake__> Argh
[01:54] <Snake__> lol
[01:54] <cafuego> Seveas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:54] <dereks_> crimsun: yeah
[01:54] <psusi> skon, what makes you thikn you can see all the traffic?
[01:54] <_jeff> can anybody help me share files between my ubuntu and windows computers??
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> I got an Autigy2zs
[01:54] <skon> psusi: how to do it in gparted? all I can do is shrink the partitions
[01:54] <crimsun> dereks_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:54] <Seveas> cafuego, s/nl/au/
[01:54] <Toma-> :O
[01:54] <Toma-> not au :*(
[01:54] <markus-_-> hey Dr_Willis
[01:54] <crimsun> *!*@*  for great justice!
[01:54] <psusi> skon, you should be able to change the size or position, not just shrink, I believe
[01:54] <Snake__> Any other ideas guys?
[01:54] <cafuego> Seveas: Feel free :-)
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> _jeff,  check out the 'samba' wiki
[01:54] <skon> psusi: umm because I've tested it? it says the computer name and the connection
[01:54] <dereks_> crimsun: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102162 is the model
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> hello markus-_-
[01:54] <Snake__> Outside from making my box the router
[01:54] <dereks_> crimsun: lemme try that
[01:54] <_jeff> dr_willis: ok thanks
[01:55] <markus-_-> i tried sudo ./nameofrunfile.run
[01:55] <silverpower> Okay, the partitioning is broken on ppc. How do I handle it manually? (I know how to use mac-fdisk and mke2fs, thanks, I just need to know what I need mounted and everything.)
[01:55] <dereks_> crimsun: 0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]  Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350]  (rev.4, serial:0x20021102) at 0x2000, irq 193
[01:55] <markus-_-> and it told me command not found
[01:55] <markus-_-> i'm in the same directory
[01:55] <Seveas> markus-_-, chmod +x ./nameoffile
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  you did chmod +x whatever.run first?
[01:55] <crimsun> dereks_: looks fine to me. Now pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[01:55] <markus-_-> no
[01:55] <psusi> skon, what says this?
[01:55] <dereks_> crimsun: hold
[01:55] <GNAM> wow official repo rulez, rar found
[01:55] <skon> psusi: about which
[01:56] <markus-_-> ahhhh
[01:56] <crimsun> GNAM: ...I pasted that to you above.
[01:56] <markus-_-> thats better
[01:56] <GNAM> yeah
[01:56] <psusi> skon, you said "it says"  what is "it"?  what are you using to view this traffic?
[01:56] <markus-_-> merci beaucoup
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> markus-_-,  logical eh? :)
[01:56] <skon> psusi: etherape and ethereal
[01:56] <dereks_> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/483618
[01:56] <cafuego> Seveas: Mind you, by way of w2k-in-vmware-on-linux now.
[01:56] <markus-_-> what does the chmod command do?
[01:56] <Toma-> cafuego: having 1 redundnt windows box on a server LAN can act as a honeypot :D
[01:56] <psusi> skon, most likely you are only seeing broadcast packets... it is very unlikely that you are connected to a hub instead of a switch
[01:56] <jhenn> how can i record the sound on my computer to a .wav file?
[01:57] <Seveas> jhenn, audacity
[01:57] <cafuego> Toma-: That's what I use OpenBSD for. (More worthy challenge)
[01:57] <Toma-> hehe
[01:57] <jhenn> Seveas: not record from mic, record whats playing on gxine
[01:57] <Seveas> cafuego, that's comparing a leaky raft to a nuclear sub :)
[01:57] <cafuego> OpenBSD in vmware too, all easy to repalce from the snapshot :-)
[01:57] <Rim7510> anyone know where I'd look to to get 4 screens working?
[01:57] <Toma-> heh
[01:57] <skon> psusi: that was Snake__ who said about the hub....
[01:57] <markus-_-> by the way Dr_Willis .... it chose usr/local/games as the directory
[01:58] <crimsun> dereks_: I presume you're using regular speakers?
[01:58] <Seveas> Rim7510, xorg.conf :)
[01:58] <dereks_> yeah, the speakers work on my other comp
[01:58] <psusi> skon, yes... because you asked why you could see all the traffic... if you are on a switch isntead of a hub, you only get your traffic and broadcasts
[01:58] <crimsun> dereks_: so try turning up 'Analog Mix'
[01:59] <Snake__> skon: Dude this thing wont work with routers
[01:59] <Snake__> grrr
[01:59] <cafuego> crud, missing an svg
[01:59] <skon> psusi: right, I didn't know he was running a switch
[01:59] <Snake__> Is that any software that will!!
[01:59] <Seveas> Snake__, no
[01:59] <skon> Snake__: mine works with my router
[01:59] <gtrplr> I am trying to get ndiswrappers to work w/my bcom 64b driver (i also have the 32b drivers) but it says there is no hardware. Any help please ?
[01:59] <Seveas> unless it runs on the router
[01:59] <Snake__> Seveas: Man..that sucks
[02:00] <dereks_> crimsun: beautiful
[02:00] <dereks_> thanks
[02:00] <dereks_> i didn't know that option
[02:00] <crimsun> dereks_: works?
[02:00] <psusi> skon, you are claiming that you can see all the traffic on campus are't you?  I'm saying no, you can't... there is no way the entire campus is on one non switched hub... therefore, all you see are broadcasts
[02:00] <dereks_> yeah
[02:00] <gtrplr> sorry, it says invalid driver
[02:00] <crimsun> dereks_: excellent.
[02:00] <skon> psusi: it's a high school running an NT server
[02:00] <dereks_> crimsun: when it boots, how come it says alsa setup fails though
[02:00] <crimsun> dereks_: is this a dist-upgrade from Hoary?
[02:01] <crimsun> dereks_: (presuming you're running Breezy)
[02:01] <jhenn> can someone help me get my sound working?
[02:01] <dereks_> crimsun: oh :) i forgot, dapper from breezy
[02:01] <psusi> skon, ohh... still... in this day and age, about the only non switched hubs are things like 5 port home routers
[02:01] <crimsun> dereks_: oh, it's because the mixer element names shifted.
[02:01] <dereks_> but it didn't work on breezy either, just too lazy to fix it
[02:01] <crimsun> dereks_: no big deal.
[02:01] <dereks_> crimsun: ohh ok
[02:01] <silverpower> Where do I mount the partitions in the installer, since it's forcing me to do it manually? I just mount everything to /target and use swapon on my swap partition, correct?
[02:01] <skon> psusi: we run ancient technology...our sysadmin is so dumb that we don't have access to our cisco router...charter does
[02:01] <dereks_> i don't follow, but i will take your word
[02:01] <crimsun> dereks_: annoying, will be fixed
[02:01] <psusi> unless this is like a 20 computer lab using really old hardware?
[02:01] <dereks_> ok
[02:02] <dereks_> now if only banshee worked :)
[02:02] <Snake__> Well what would be a good third party firmware for my router? I believe nalioth said something about that
[02:02] <skon> psusi: yes, basically
[02:02] <psusi> ohh... ok ;)
[02:02] <Note> my school uses  xp but we have so much spy ware its not even funny
[02:02] <cafuego> Snake__: What router?
[02:02] <dereks_> crimsun: thanks for all your help, now i gotta go use it
[02:02] <dereks_> ttyl
[02:02] <nalioth> Snake__: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:03] <Snake__> cafuego: Linksys WRK54G
[02:03] <cafuego> Snake__: go to www.openwrt.org
[02:03] <niner> Can someone offer suggestions on getting the 5.10 LiveCD to boot on a Dell Dimension?   It keeps locking up when loading the hotplug subsystem.
[02:03] <Seveas> !seen mdz
[02:03] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'mdz', Seveas
[02:04] <Note> the library computers are full of the stuff we get popups when we arn't on line and the home page on IE (They dont even use ff) is messed up
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> niner,  what cpu?
[02:04] <niner> (additional info:   I've added a PCI video card to replace the onboard video)
[02:04] <Shadyman> niner: You should be able to set various boot-time kernel options
[02:04] <Snake__> cafuego: Will I get kicked offline when I do this?
[02:04] <blanky> hey guys, you install a tar.gz by untarring it, then doing make make, install, ./configure ? Is it the right order?
[02:04] <silverpower> niner: nohotplug, I think.
[02:04] <Seveas> blanky, no
[02:04] <skon> Someone please check the pastebin here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6355 and tell me what I'm doing wrong with gparted please
[02:04] <Snake__> cafuego: and if I screw it up, can I revert back?
[02:04] <niner> Pentium IV 1.4 GHz, 512MB RAM.    Added a 128MB Geforce PCI card.
[02:05] <Seveas> !tell blanky about compiling
[02:05] <cafuego> Snake__: When applying the firmware? Yes. Make _CERTAIN_ you read all docs. There is a chance you'll turn the router into a brick.
[02:05] <aeon17x> !tell aeon17x about compiling
[02:05] <gerald-volt> is there a program that can tell me my cpu temperature in terminal?
[02:05] <nalioth> Snake__: you are offtopic
[02:05] <Seveas> gerald-volt, cat
[02:05] <Snake__> argh sorry nalioth
[02:05] <gerald-volt> how?
[02:05] <cafuego> Snake__: For all other inquiries, please refer to the site I gave you :-)
[02:05] <odat> hi everyone
[02:05] <Snake__> cafuego: okie dokie
[02:05] <Seveas> gerald-volt, cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/*
[02:06] <odat> i am getting this error not sure what to do
[02:06] <odat> C compiler cannot cr eate executables
[02:06] <niner> Snake__, go read that website.   read it twice.
[02:06] <Snake__> lol
[02:06] <Seveas> gerald-volt, browse through these dirs for more fun :)
[02:06] <odat> C compiler cannot create executables
[02:06] <Seveas> !tell odat about compiling
[02:06] <gerald-volt> cool
[02:06] <gerald-volt> thanks
[02:06] <psusi> Snake__, look, if you are trying to spy on your neighbor's cable modem traffic, give up... you can't... if you want to see all that you can, ditch the router and plug directly into the modem
[02:06] <gtrplr> Seveas, could you do the same for me
[02:06] <gerald-volt> hmm, i wonder if I have acpi enabled in my kernel
[02:06] <niner> silverpower, thanks, i didn't see a nohotplug option in the menus.
[02:06] <shsnoc> hey folks
[02:06] <gerald-volt> I don't have anything in that directory
[02:06] <Seveas> gtrplr, ?
[02:06] <PeteyPablo> !compiling
[02:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:07] <Snake__> psusi: Wow............thats agood idea
[02:07] <silverpower> niner: np - most of my boxes hate hotplug.
[02:07] <interfear> i think my iso is corrupt.. ill try dling another one.. the install keeps having a problem with a poing
[02:07] <interfear> says cant read from cdrom
[02:07] <interfear> and ive burned 3 already
[02:07] <shsnoc> can anyone point me to a decent irc server to run to help coworkers collaborate?
[02:07] <Seveas> interfear, check the md5sum of both iso and burned cd
[02:07] <shadeofgrey> guts
[02:07] <skon> Someone please take a look here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6355
[02:07] <psusi> Snake__, all you're going to see though is a bunch of ARP broadcasts and your own traffic
[02:07] <Seveas> !md5
[02:07] <ubotu> well, md5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[02:07] <shadeofgrey> er
[02:07] <gtrplr> Seveas, was looking for compiling info
[02:07] <Snake__> o
[02:07] <shsnoc> I'm using ubuntu 5.10
[02:07] <Snake__> :(
[02:07] <gtrplr> and wireless
[02:07] <shadeofgrey> guys im havuing avery weird issue with the newest version of dapper
[02:07] <crimsun> shsnoc: you may want to consider jabber as an alternative
[02:07] <Snake__> Networks are to lockeddown now in days
[02:08] <Seveas> gtrplr, ubotu said it to the channel :)
[02:08] <Seveas> Snake__, you were warned twice about being offtopic
[02:08] <shsnoc> Why is that?
[02:08] <shadeofgrey> every time i click on the applications menu, it opens, but flashes suddenly and draws a square in the bottom lefthand cortner odf the screen and wont show the applications menu for more than  a few sedconds
[02:08] <crimsun> shsnoc: much less infrastructure to configure
[02:08] <shsnoc> I know so little about jabber to be honest.
[02:08] <shsnoc> hmmm
[02:08] <shsnoc> is there a jabber server I need then?
[02:09] <crimsun> shsnoc: you can create your own if you wish
[02:09] <crimsun> shsnoc: there's good documentation online
[02:09] <PeteyPablo> can anyone help me with a azureus display problem on ubuntu ?
[02:09] <odat> why do i keep getting this
[02:09] <odat> C compiler cannot create executables
[02:09] <gerald-volt> Seveas, i don't have anything in the thermal_zone directory
[02:09] <niner> Additional question:   has anyone run Xen on Ubuntu?
[02:09] <gtrplr> is there a readme for wireless ndiswrappers??
[02:09] <cafuego> !ndiswrapper
[02:09] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:09] <crimsun> odat: sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[02:09] <odat> i have every compiler installed
[02:09] <shsnoc> So should I search for ubuntu+jabber server?
[02:09] <Seveas> odat, read what Ubotu sent you
[02:10] <crimsun> shsnoc: sure, or "debian jabber server"
[02:10] <odat> i did
[02:10] <odat> doesn't help
[02:10] <nalioth> odat: some of the build scripts you have call gcc in a way the gcc doesnt understand
[02:10] <skon> Does anyone have any ideas about my gparted problem  ?
[02:10] <Seveas> odat, what does dpkg -l build-essential say?
[02:11] <Seveas> (pastebin the output)
[02:11] <gtrplr> well, thanks any ways
[02:11] <gtrplr> adios!
[02:11] <odat> no packages found matching
[02:11] <jhenn> my sound doesn't work in gxine and audacity but it works in bmp and sound juicer.  anyone know why?
[02:11] <psusi> skon, what happens when you grab the left edge of the partition and try to drag it further left into the free space?
[02:12] <sambaseeker> Can anybody send me link for Samba tutorial for Ubuntu?
[02:12] <ilba7r> is there a link for standard way to format a wiki?
[02:12] <skon> psusi: nothing
[02:13] <shsnoc> Thank you for your suggestion.  I'll look into jabber some.
[02:13] <psusi> hrm... I thought you could do that?  hrm... you ARE doing this from the livecd right?
[02:13] <skon> yes live CD
[02:13] <odat> Seveas, no packages found matching
[02:13] <chance2105_> How can you tell what package a particular file belongs to?
[02:13] <interfear> whas a fast mirror like 300k/sec?
[02:13] <interfear> im only getin 100 from all the ones on the sie
[02:13] <odat> anyone ever use ccd2iso?
[02:13] <Seveas> odat, then READ WHAT UBOTU SENT
[02:14] <shsnoc> One other question, I know on a debian distro I could control all the places it looked for packages.  On a standard ubuntu install, I'd imagine only I don't have access to many sites to download from.  Is this true?
[02:14] <skon> shsnoc: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:14] <Seveas> shsnoc, ubuntu uses the same mechanism as debian, you can download from wherever you want...
[02:14] <shsnoc> Do you have some good places I should add to that list?
[02:14] <Seveas> !tell shsnoc about easysource
[02:15] <shsnoc> easysource?
[02:15] <Seveas> the link ubotu sent you has a few nice ones
[02:15] <interfear> is there a way to do an internet install?
[02:15] <shsnoc> Forgive me, I just recently left MS cold turkey and trying to pick all this stuff up.
[02:15] <Seveas> interfear, yes, but it's far from easy
[02:15] <sambaseeker> !tell sambaseeker about samba
[02:16] <psusi> skon, if you are particularly daring then, you can try doing it by hand from the command line
[02:16] <Seveas> shsnoc, then go there, tick all repositories you like and inspect the result :)
[02:16] <skon> psusi: er...okay
[02:16] <interfear> fuck why isnt this iso workting]
[02:16] <skon> psusi: parted is always non destructive right?
[02:16] <interfear> theres no reason for it to now work
[02:16] <interfear> err not
[02:16] <psusi> skon, it tries to be... yes
[02:16] <lennox11> can someone help me on installing the ubuntu?
[02:16] <crimsun> jhenn: make sure you uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup prior to starting Audacity.
[02:16] <lennox11> my cd rom will not work in windows xp
[02:16] <Seveas> interfear, that language is not tolerated
[02:16] <sambaseeker> can anybody tell ubotu to tell me about samba please.
[02:16] <psusi> skon, I've never actually used it... but I'd think that if gparted can't, then parted can't either... but give it a shot
[02:17] <Seveas> !smba
[02:17] <ubotu> Not a clue, Seveas
[02:17] <lennox11> are there any bootdisks i can make to install it
[02:17] <Seveas> !samba
[02:17] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:17] <skon> lennox11: ubuntu doesn't work in windows xp
[02:17] <psusi> skon, otherwise, I was thinking of using dd to move the partition to the left... fdisk, then extend
[02:17] <shsnoc> besides vi, is there another editor to use from terminal?
[02:17] <lennox11> i know, but how do i initiate the install disk
[02:17] <Seveas> shsnoc, nano
[02:17] <lennox11> i cant find any boot disks
[02:17] <sambaseeker> Seaves: thx
[02:17] <skon> psusi: i'll give it a shot
[02:17] <Seveas> or joe, jedit, mc-edit
[02:17] <shsnoc> thank you
[02:17] <Toma-> lennox11: you need to set your bios to boot from the cd drive
[02:17] <Seveas> eh, skip jedit
[02:18] <lennox11> i did that, and it still boots to my f: drive
[02:18] <lennox11> not my d: drive
[02:18] <psusi> lennox11, the install cd is bootable
[02:18] <Seveas> lennox11, did you burn the iso as image, not as file?
[02:18] <lennox11> yeah, as a image
[02:18] <psusi> lennox11, then stick the disk in and reboot
[02:18] <Toma-> lennox11: is the bios loading the cdrom before the drive?
[02:19] <lennox11> it flashes, but then goes to the cd rom
[02:19] <daemos> where can I find themes for ubuntu / gnome ?
[02:19] <Kyral> gnome-look.org
[02:20] <skon> daemos: art.gnome.org
[02:20] <nalioth> daemos: deviantart.com
[02:20] <Seveas> !tell daemos about themes
[02:20] <tuv> ksoftirqd is eating the cpu!
[02:20] <skon> Seveas: do you have any ideas about gparted?
[02:20] <Seveas> skon, no
[02:20] <skon> ok
[02:21] <sambaseeker> what is command to uninstall package?
[02:21] <Kyral> sudo apt-get remove
[02:21] <Seveas> sambaseeker, apt-get remove
[02:21] <sambaseeker> ok
[02:22] <silverpower> Now the installer is giving me a 'No installable kernel found' error.
[02:23] <sambaseeker> do I need restart PC after removal progress?
[02:23] <nalioth> silverpower: this an oldworld mac?
[02:23] <Kyral> sambaseeker: not in most cases
[02:23] <silverpower> nalioth: NewWorld.
[02:23] <sambaseeker> ok
[02:23] <nalioth> silverpower: i'm at a loss.
[02:23] <nalioth> silverpower: perhaps d/l and burn a hoary install cd
[02:24] <silverpower> nalioth: This was my last CD-R.
[02:25] <haasteem> hi, i'm using blackbox right now and it,s quite cool. i have a little question now... how do i change the font size in the menu bar and such?
[02:26] <haasteem> it is very small right now
[02:26] <jono> hi all
[02:26] <jono> does anyone know if there is a 2.6.14 kernel for breezy?
[02:26] <jono> or is there a patchset that I can apply to the vanilla kernel to add the ubuntu patches?
[02:27] <itro> #ubuntu-es
[02:27] <Hobbsee> jono: howto at ubuntuforums.org
[02:27] <jono> what is that?
[02:27] <bur[n] er> lugradio guy! :)  searched backports I assume?
[02:28] <bur[n] er> nah... none in backports, nevermind
[02:30] <jono> bur[n] er, hey :) none in backports, don't want to move to dapper as it is my mythtv box
[02:30] <jono> Hobbsee, that howto only covers the performance patch - I also want all the driver patches
[02:30] <silverpower> nalioth: I'm going to try expert mode and see if I can get it going that way.
[02:30] <Hobbsee> jono: ah ok - i've not tried it, i'm on dapper anyway
[02:31] <bur[n] er> sorry jono
[02:31] <meepy> I love Ubuntu!
[02:31] <BxL> i love ubuntu too!
[02:31] <flodine> anyone running a diffrent WM here like flux or openbox that can help me
[02:31] <bur[n] er> flodine: what's up?
[02:31] <jono> bur[n] er, no probs :)
[02:32] <meepy> My laptop is 10 degee colder than on Windows!
[02:32] <flodine> when i sign in to my wm i got to go gnome-control-center  themes to set my icon why
[02:32] <bur[n] er> jono: there's always "build-essential" and kernel.org
[02:32] <silverpower> meepy: that's the magic of Linux. :)
[02:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: what WM?
[02:33] <jono> bur[n] er, well I compiled my own kernel, but some bits are missing, and my rt2500 driver freezes the system it seems
[02:33] <flodine> im on pek right now
[02:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: both flux and openbox?
[02:33] <meepy> :D
[02:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: there's always gnome-theme-manager
[02:33] <bur[n] er> flodine: or a text editor and config files
[02:34] <flodine>  bur[n] er is there a command to set it on start up
[02:34] <bur[n] er> flodine: oh, they don't have any icons at all before running gnome-control-center ?
[02:34] <flodine>  bur[n] er no
[02:35] <bur[n] er> brb
[02:36] <teprrr> hello there.. is there anything badly broken in dapper atm?
[02:36] <IdleOne> hello
[02:37] <Hobbsee> teprrr: think there were some problems with locales
[02:37] <Hobbsee> doesnt seem like too much
[02:37] <IdleOne> can someone tell me how to enable/install java?
[02:37] <gtrplr> I am looking for some wireless help
[02:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IdleOne about javadebs
[02:38] <IdleOne> ty nalioth
[02:38] <teprrr> Hobbsee, nothing severe?
[02:38] <AndrewX> is there a kernel package that is basically the standard kernel + SATA support pre-compiled in on some repository somewhere?
[02:38] <Thunderguy> Where is traceroute? I have a manual page, but I don't have traceroute
[02:39] <Hobbsee> teprrr not on my machine, but others could have problems
[02:39] <ubuntublah> just installed ubuntu.. whats up with install no root password set..
[02:39] <ubuntublah> is there a default
[02:39] <ubuntublah> ?
[02:39] <nalioth> Thunderguy: it's not spelled that way
[02:39] <Hobbsee> !tell ubuntublah about rootsudo
[02:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ubuntublah about sudo
[02:39] <teprrr> Hobbsee, heh, jus tthinking if I will dist-upgrade my desktop now :p
[02:39] <Thunderguy> nalioth: know what it is spelled like?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> teprrr: safer to install from a flight cd, but go ahead :)  backup first!
[02:39] <jono> I am currently running 32-bit breezy on my amd64 computer - if I compile my new kernel and select athlon64 as the processor type, will this cause problems?
[02:39] <odat> i am trying to mount and image file on my desktop how do it dothat?
[02:39] <steveO_Office> ok does anyone here no how and were to change the login sceen from kdm back to gdm?
[02:39] <teprrr> Thunderguy, mtr is a good traceroute app
[02:39] <nalioth> Thunderguy: how bout in a console type "ls /usr/bin/trace*"
[02:39] <benplaut> is there a way to stream quicktime and wmp, from NPR?
[02:40] <nalioth> steveO_Office: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:40] <Hobbsee> teprrr: it's useful to check the dapper section of ubuntuforums.org too - a lot of people go over there and tell of their experiences
[02:40] <haasteem> hi, i'm using blackbox right now and it,s quite cool. i have a little question now... how do i change the font size in the menu bar and such?
[02:40] <steveO_Office> nalioth, thanks
[02:40] <cristophine> Hey guys, I"m having trouble getting my ATI Rage II working. The system just stalls when it tries to load libglx.
[02:40] <cristophine> Any ideas?
[02:40] <benplaut> haasteem: it's not in the config files?
[02:40] <benplaut> brb
[02:40] <teprrr> Hobbsee, already lookead at the forums.. and I'm not really into burning cds and stuff :)
[02:40] <Hobbsee> teprrr: go ahead then, hopefully it'll work
[02:41] <haasteem> benplaut: you mean the config files for blackbox?
[02:41] <benplaut> haasteem: err, yeah
[02:41] <teprrr> yup, will go for it soon.. hopefully works better than breezy :p
[02:42] <flodine>  bur[n] er you back
[02:42] <haasteem> benplaut: ok... yesterday i asked at #blackbox, and there i was told to do that in a file called .gtkrc-2.0, but that didn't work
[02:42] <IdleOne> ok can someone tell a newbie how to get and install java in detail?
[02:43] <IdleOne> please :)
[02:43] <binarydigit> !java
[02:43] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:43] <nalioth> IdleOne: did you read the info ubotu sent you?
[02:43] <bur[n] er> flodine: i'm still getting flux set up ;)
[02:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IdleOne about deb
[02:43] <benplaut> haakonn: look for anything in $HOME that starts with ".gtkrc"... there are about 3
[02:43] <bur[n] er> flodine: hard to work with on a default config
[02:43] <IdleOne> I did .. server is down
[02:43] <steveO_Office> what the hell is apach.. doing running on a laptop wow I see im going to have to uninstall a few things here
[02:43] <nalioth> IdleOne: ubotu has told you everything you need to know about java
[02:43] <benplaut> haakonn: the one that says only .gtkrc is the one you want. if it doesn't exist, make it
[02:43] <bur[n] er> in any event, you could always put gnome-control-center in the startup
[02:43] <mcjerry> who is running dapper? about 2 days ago i noticed linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386 in synaptic upgrades but when i try to upgrade them i get Depends: linux-image-2.6.15-10-386  but it is not installable
[02:44] <bur[n] er> flodine: or find some session management app... maybe gnome-session?  dunno if it'd work in fluxbox
[02:44] <dabaR> mcjerry: your sources.list sucks, then.
[02:44] <FSNG013> hi anyone has info how to get the SMC 2632 V2 card to work .. it shows up as a LAN card i.e. eth0 when we boot with it
[02:44] <haasteem> benplaut: was that for me?
[02:44] <benplaut> haasteem: yup
[02:44] <haasteem> ok
[02:45] <haasteem> let me try
[02:45] <Corrupter> is there any way to set up a surround sound system with Linux?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> mcjerry: yes, i get the same error
[02:45] <nalioth> mcjerry: your gonna have lots of instances like this. dapper is in developement and some pkgs outpace others
[02:45] <Hobbsee> mcjerry: i've just left it so far - have you checked if there's a bug for it?
[02:45] <Haukkari> FSNG013: SMC 2632 V2 you say?
[02:45] <Haukkari> FSNG013: I vaguely remember configuring one of those a long time ago on my old PC laptop
[02:45] <FSNG013> Haukkari: yeas
[02:46] <Haukkari> FSNG013: it's a WLAN card, right?
[02:46] <steveO_Office> how do I stop sync with ntp.ubuntu time server
[02:46] <FSNG013> yep
[02:46] <NCLife> anyone knows why when i type "sudo eject /dev/sda2" it says "unable to open `/dev/sda2'"?
[02:46] <steveO_Office> no more ? now lol
[02:46] <FSNG013> it detects as eth0 when its supposed to be wlan0
[02:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell steveO_Office about bum
[02:47] <Haukkari> FSNG013: does it work?
[02:47] <FSNG013> Haukkari: kinda
[02:47] <Haukkari> FSNG013: you can connect to a network and ping stuff?
[02:47] <FSNG013> nope
[02:48] <Haukkari> humh
[02:48] <haasteem> benplaut: that doesn't seem to work.... all i have in .gtkrc is: gtk-font-name = "Sans 10"
[02:48] <Haukkari> FSNG013: humm... Well, I remember it started working ok with some stabbing on some 2.6 kernels... It needed a lot of stabbing still, however... I manually compiled a kernel with support for those and looked the help-option for the kernel option... and it had some url where I had to go and get firmware and then I had to configure hotplug and so on... So, uh... :)
[02:48] <Haukkari> the SMC 2632 V2 or V3
[02:48] <haasteem> benplaut: and there is nothing about fonts in .blackboxrc
[02:48] <FSNG013> V2
[02:48] <steveO_Office> nalioth, Thanks once again....
[02:49] <nalioth> steveO_Office: pass on the knowledge.
[02:49] <pl_ice> bur[n] er  :) bed time, u after 8 hrs u're still here ...
[02:49] <Haukkari> FSNG013: tried googling for help?
[02:49] <steveO_Office> always do mate
[02:49] <sambaseeker> can anybody see why my Samba wont start? http://pastebin.com/483656
[02:49] <FSNG013> Haukkari: Thanks .. yeah sounds like thats what we need...
[02:50] <benplaut> haasteem: ooohhhh... well, it's not with gtkrc - that's only for gtk apps. i know that for Fluxbox, the font size is defined within the theme (and they're very close). editing the theme will probably let you change it - look in /usr/share/blackbox
[02:51] <FSNG013> Haukkari: We have aonther issue with the Dlink 802.g card too .. so kinda stuck with no network for that Cel550 laptop we had ..
[02:51] <DotheGuru> would anyone happen to know how to open up some ports for azureus?
[02:51] <flodine>  bur[n] er do you have to go to gnome-control to setthe icon
[02:51] <haasteem> benplaut: thaks, i will check right away
[02:51] <skon> What is the /lost+found folder for in linux?
[02:51] <Haukkari> FSNG013: the laptop doesn't have a wired ethernet?
[02:51] <pl_ice> sambaseeker testparm is smb.conf file check
[02:51] <mcjerry> dabaR: please dcc me your sources.conf if you are running dapper and have current kernel with no errors in synaptic
[02:51] <benplaut> haasteem: np... i'm outta here :)
[02:51] <jono> I am trying to build a new kernel and I changed the value of --append-to-version and get the error The changelog says we are creating 2.6.14mykerne1, but I thought the version is 2.6.14jb
[02:51] <jono>  - I tried to change it back but it doesnt fix it - any suggestions?
[02:52] <teprrr> Hobbsee, though it looks like locales are broken in my breezy too..
[02:52] <mike_g> Sound Question: Ubuntu - Breezy, VIA 8235 Sound, Music CD's and ogg files play with too much bass. Any ideas?
[02:52] <mcjerry> Hobbsee: yes i have just left it alone and haven't researched, thought i'd check here first....will research now and try to solve if interested pm m
[02:52] <teprrr> Hobbsee, many apps whine about my LANG being en, some of them work anyway, some don't
[02:53] <Hobbsee> mcjerry: if you find the solution, i'd like to know - the packages it depends on, one doesnt exist, so i'm assumign it's a case of waiting...
[02:53] <sambaseeker> pl_ice: http://pastebin.com/483662
[02:53] <Hobbsee> teprrr: true
[02:53] <DotheGuru> mike double eclick the sound icon on your taskbar
[02:53] <pl_ice> sambaseeker u don't seem to have startup script in /etc/int.d/samba, canu check that? ...
[02:53] <shadeofgrey> hey guys i need some pretty serious help
[02:53] <DotheGuru> i think the middle sliders fix it
[02:53] <mcjerry> Hobbsee: odd that new headers are there without image though
[02:54] <mike_g> Dothe... nope
[02:54] <intelikey> can't you just set locales to C ?
[02:54] <Hobbsee> mcjerry: true
[02:54] <teprrr> skon, http://www.linux.com/guides/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/lostfound.shtml -- "linux what is lost+found" could've told you this :p
[02:54] <lasindi> Is there a way to get an Ubuntu machine to behave like a hub or switch? i.e., if I have two network interfaces on the machine, can it serve as a hub between them to extend the network?
[02:55] <sambaseeker> pl_ice: http://pastebin.com/483663 (content of samba)
[02:55] <HiddenWolf> what is the easiest way to convert a .flac to a low-encoding mp3?
[02:55] <mike_g> PCM is the only active channel
[02:55] <shadeofgrey> hiddenwolf!
[02:55] <FSNG013> Haukkari: no .. its a 5130 HP
[02:55] <shadeofgrey> i need you!
[02:55] <nalioth> lasindi: with 2 NICs, sure you can
[02:55] <Haukkari> FSNG013: :/
[02:55] <teprrr> intelikey, well, I thought they should be C as I haven't changed anything..
[02:55] <skon> thanks
[02:55] <Haukkari> FSNG013: you could always get a PCMCIA wired ethernet card
[02:56] <lasindi> nalioth: I don't really have any idea where to get started. What configurations/tools do I need?
[02:56] <Haukkari> FSNG013: I hear those don't cost much nowadays
[02:56] <Baal> Does anyone know how to set up an identd server?
[02:57] <Haukkari> Baal: umm, just the identd?
[02:57] <nalioth> lasindi: having 2 nics is the best start. after that you can use any iptables configurator to enable whatever actions you want
[02:57] <intelikey> en != C
[02:57] <Haukkari> Baal: if you are not behind a NAT, just install oidentd and start it
[02:57] <Baal> What is a NAT?
[02:57] <SirKillalot> network address translation
[02:57] <spiderworm> hey all i finally got dvd playback working but the audio is barely audible, i cant hardly hear it, and cant figure out how to turn it up....
[02:57] <sambaseeker> pl_ice: can you check default CHMOD for etc/samba forler?
[02:57] <spiderworm> can anyone help?
[02:57] <Haukkari> Baal: well, if you are behind a firewall or not. =)
[02:57] <sambaseeker> folder*
[02:58] <Baal> I am behind a firewall
[02:58] <lasindi> nalioth: isn't iptables the firewall? I know how to get iptables to accept or reject packets on given ports, but how does it apply to being a hub?
[02:58] <Haukkari> Baal: then you can't get identd to work unless you set up a ident proxy on that firewall... which can be difficult if the firewall is not a linux box
[02:58] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, do you want to raise the volume?
[02:58] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: yes
[02:58] <Baal> The firewall is built into a router.  What ports do I need to open
[02:59] <odat> how can i tell the path of my cdrom?
[02:59] <Haukkari> Baal: identd is on port 113 but it won't work. The router itself should have an identd proxy, which you can't do as it's a dumb router...
[02:59] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, try gnome-volume-control or alsamixer
[02:59] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: i have kmix open and im messing with all sorts of channels, but none of them are doing it.... dont know what to do...
[02:59] <nalioth> lasindi: iptables is your linux boxes routing system. you can use it for a firewall (unnecessary) or enable connection sharing or routing
[02:59] <Baal> I can set up forwarding on the router so that should work
[02:59] <teprrr> intelikey, well, it used to work earlier.. so it must be some ubuntu crap which has broken it during an update
[02:59] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, try the PCM channel
[02:59] <pl_ice> sambaseeker i got tiny version different then urs, but the script is the same, can u run it through standard smb.conf ? ... try killing smbd and other ones, maybe they stuck ..
[03:00] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: with pcm and master all the way up, its still barely audible
[03:00] <teprrr> lasindi, nalioth, isn't ipptables just a frontend for kernel's netfilter?
[03:00] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, how about audio with other apps?
[03:00] <nalioth> teprrr: iptables allows you to route things as you wish
[03:00] <Haukkari> Baal: yeah, one might think. :)
[03:00] <kathan> I've got a problem with eclipse, I try to install tptp but the plugin org.eclipse.emf.ecore.xmf is required. So I try to install emf but it doesn't work, there's a message saying I'm trying to install an unsigned feature. Then the installation fails and it's written "org.eclipse.update.internal.core.SiteFilePluginContentConsumer"
[03:00] <Haukkari> Baal: but identd has some weird stuff that it won't work with simple forwarding
[03:01] <Haukkari> Baal: you can try if you want, but it won't work. :(
[03:01] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: audio with other apps is fine
[03:01] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: this box is used as a mythtv box and the occasional gaming
[03:01] <intelikey> teprrr indeed.
[03:01] <spiderworm> everything works fine other than dvd playback
[03:01] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, then it should be a problem with the program
[03:01] <pl_ice> Haukkari i thouht it will work on forward ...
[03:01] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, what do you use for dvd playback?
[03:01] <Haukkari> pl_ice: well, you are free to try.
[03:01] <Baal> Haukkari: I see.  So there is no way to get identd to work through the router.
[03:01] <pl_ice> :)
[03:01] <Deep6> anyone got a link for flash player on mozilla
[03:02] <Toma-> !flash
[03:02] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:02] <Haukkari> Baal: well, not that I know of...
[03:02] <Hobbsee> Deep6: apt-cache search mozilla flash
[03:02] <mcjerry> anyone with Dapper running 2.6.15-10-386?
[03:02] <Toma-> mcjerry: file a bug.
[03:02] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: uh, its myplayer running through mythtv, i guess
[03:02] <smacky_wolf> Well, hi all.
[03:03] <Deep6> Hobbsee, tried, libflash-mozplugin doesn't seem to work
[03:03] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, you should try to change the audio plugin for mplayer or something, it works fine for me and DVD
[03:03] <Hobbsee> hmm
[03:03] <smacky_wolf> Anyone ever had issues trying to get kubuntu on a laptop? IE: the install process?
[03:03] <fit4lfe> I know thi is probably the wrong channel but does anyone user lftp here ?
[03:03] <pl_ice> smacky_wolf , yeh but mine is v. old
[03:03] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: on your cue, trying xine, sound seems fine in xine....
[03:04] <fit4lfe> does anyone user lftp here ?
[03:04] <spiderworm> SirKillalot: i'll try different apps, thanks
[03:04] <smacky_wolf> How old?
[03:04] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, vlc is also good
[03:04] <SirKillalot> spiderworm, or ogle
[03:04] <pl_ice> 450 mhz :)
[03:04] <smacky_wolf> Ah. Sounds about the same XD
[03:05] <sambaseeker> pl_ice: they are OK because I installed samba again
[03:05] <lasindi> nalioth: I'm still sort of lost here. I mean, how do I configure iptables to do routing like a hub? I don't want it to act like a router, just a hub, i.e. an extension of the network.
[03:05] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,  about 450    ouch  id use  server install   then apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[03:05] <nalioth> lasindi: you can do it from firestarter, iirc
[03:05] <smacky_wolf> Acer 500t. It refuses to fdo anything. Just SITS in the first install for hours.
[03:05] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   works great on nmy 500 lappy
[03:05] <smacky_wolf> Pas: I have no interwebs on it at this stage.
[03:06] <pl_ice> smacky_wolf yes, it's to do with the power, swith the acpi off, if i can remember well
[03:06] <pl_ice> had the same
[03:06] <smacky_wolf> Ooh, OK. Cool.
[03:06] <lasindi> nalioth: okay thanks
[03:06] <smacky_wolf> Thanks muchly *goes and pokes laptop*
[03:06] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   if its that old  use these switches at boot: linux acpi=off noapic
[03:07] <smacky_wolf> It hasn't done that with any other distros.
[03:07] <smacky_wolf> Thanks, pas. Shall give it a go.
[03:07] <pl_ice> sambaseeker u didn't do any config in smb.conf? .. or u did?
[03:07] <AndrewX> stupid kernel panic error
[03:08] <SirKillalot> good night ubuntu lovers
[03:08] <smacky_wolf> Pas, did you have any issues with sound when you got it going?
[03:08] <pl_ice> night
[03:08] <smacky_wolf> Ever since I junked Win95 it hasn't made any other noises than the PC speaker
[03:08] <intelikey> it takes a brave kernel to never panic
[03:09] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,  dont believe i did,  but the desktop needed reconfig  wasnt full screen
[03:09] <smacky_wolf> Arh.
[03:09] <AndrewX> or possibly a kernel with SATA support compiled in, instead of a module =/
[03:09] <smacky_wolf> Debian hated it, Mandrake hated it, erm.... LFS wouldn't even get past a PANIC
[03:09] <AndrewX> but that would require being able to bood
[03:09] <intelikey> that too
[03:09] <AndrewX> *biit
[03:09] <skon> Anyone run ubuntu on a laptop and have trouble when you close the lid? Screen won't come back on?
[03:09] <AndrewX> *boot
[03:10] <nalioth> skon: most of us have that 'feature'
[03:10] <mister_roboto> skon: yes, i have that problem
[03:10] <Toma-> AndrewX: you cant get a working kernel to boot?
[03:10] <durt> skon: happens occasionally for some reason
[03:10] <odat> i mounted an image how do i unmount it
[03:10] <smacky_wolf> Hey, can someone tell me if there ARE any major differences between Kubuntu and Ubuntu, other than the Xwin?
[03:10] <smacky_wolf> I got Kubuntu becasue Gnome is ugly :(
[03:11] <skon> So I take it there is no fix for it?
[03:11] <pashaw> nalioth,   is that an acpi bug?     my lappy comes back fine    but its old so all the acpi is disabled
[03:11] <Toma-> smacky_wolf: no diff. except for kde + usplash image
[03:11] <intelikey> smacky_wolf not uspposed to be any
[03:11] <AndrewX> Toma: I can't get the default kernel on the Breezy CD to boot. "Kernel Panic: VFS: can't mount root fs"
[03:11] <nalioth> pashaw: there is a lot of trouble, it seems, with sleep/hibernate
[03:11] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   how much RAM that lappy have?
[03:11] <mister_roboto> skon: it actually runs when coming out of standby, i can hear disk spinning when i do commands but the screen won't turn on. haven't figured out a fix but kind of quit looking
[03:11] <pashaw> nalioth,   thx  was installing onto my centrino lappy soon
[03:11] <Toma-> AndrewX: sounds like you have some errors on the cd. or on the new partition
[03:12] <smacky_wolf> 64mb
[03:12] <skon> mister_roboto: same here....I found that if you "suspend" the computer, it'll never do that
[03:12] <mister_roboto> skon: but it just freezes with garbled screen out of hibernate. this is using nvidia's binary driver
[03:12] <Toma-> or possibly the boot sector
[03:12] <nalioth> pashaw: it should work fine (my centrino HP dv1000 worked ootb) but i dont close my lid
[03:12] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   youll want to use xubuntu  then
[03:12] <Toma-> AndrewX: basically, its not the kernel.
[03:12] <smacky_wolf> And Pas, that fixed it. It's further than it got into the last 4 hours.
[03:12] <AndrewX> Toma: I've tried 2 CDs. It worked when I upgraded from Horay to Breezy, but broke on reinstall. I think it has something to do with the fact that I have both an IDE and a SATA drive
[03:12] <pashaw> nalioth,   ahh cool dv1000   is similar to my x1030
[03:12] <smacky_wolf> Aww, so I ned to download ANOTHER iso?
[03:13] <Toma-> AndrewX: i see.
[03:13] <MarcN> pashaw: I have an hp nc6000
[03:13] <jiangguowei> a bug's status is upstream.what does it mean?
[03:13] <mister_roboto> skon: oddly enough, one of the previous iterations of ubuntu worked coming out of suspend.   but never worked again after one of the updates
[03:13] <Toma-> AndrewX: is the grub/boot option loading the right root fs?
[03:13] <nuttychicken> sorry for soundin stupid but i'm new to linux, is there a compiler that comes with ubuntu? if not is there a place i could get one with a guide to getting it to work?
[03:13] <mister_roboto> skon: i just keep trying it every time they update the kernel  :)
[03:13] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   no  get installed   see if your eyes bleed from the slowness :P    then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:13] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   sold only be about 26mb download or so
[03:14] <smacky_wolf> Oh, cool.
[03:14] <durt> nuttychicken: what kind of compiler?
[03:14] <skon> mister_roboto: same here...it's not a huge problem, works every time using suspend but it's also a pain to hit the logoff button and suspend every time you want to pack it up
[03:14] <nuttychicken> c++
[03:14] <sagarp> i have a 160gb drive and a 250gb drive...i want some space for fat32 storage, and the linux partition on the 250..how should i parition it?!
[03:14] <smacky_wolf> Erm, can I grab the package from the ubuntu website por whatever, then put it on a CD? I have no interwebs with it
[03:14] <durt> nuttychicken: get build-essential, and use g++
[03:15] <nuttychicken> build-essential?
[03:15] <skon> nuttychicken: try sudo apt-get install g++
[03:15] <durt> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:15] <skon> and that
[03:15] <pashaw> smacky_wolf,   not sure  i know it read some stuff off the cd  didnt pay attention how much extra if any
[03:15] <Baal> Haukkari:  I have D-link router and they have a tech support FAQ about setting up the router for identd with mIRC (I assume on windows).  They say to set up a virtual server for port 113, open ports 2070-2075, and set up mIRC to DCC with these ports.
[03:15] <jiangguowei>  a bug's status is upstream.what does it mean?
[03:15] <smacky_wolf> Ah, OK.
[03:16] <nuttychicken> thanks :)
[03:16] <smacky_wolf> Thanks, Pas. You rawk :D
[03:16] <Snake__> Feedom.
[03:16] <Snake__> :)
[03:16] <Baal> Haukkari:  Do you think this will work with xchat?
[03:17] <smacky_wolf> Hrmmmmm... How does someone rate my chances of getting Ragnarok Online to work under WINE?
[03:18] <AndrewX> Toma: actually, no. The installer won't put it anywhere but on the IDE drive, even if the SATA is set as primary in the BIOS.  :D
[03:22] <smacky_wolf> But Ice gets one, too.
[03:23] <Hobbsee> shadeofgrey: dont remind me...
[03:23] <smacky_wolf> OK, pets for all then!
[03:23] <maskd> god damn turning off the login sound makes gnome load so much quicker
[03:23] <Toma-> kekeke ^_^
[03:24] <skon> How do you turn off the login sound?
[03:24] <jhenn> i can't get my sound working with some programs
[03:24] <skon> Nevermind, found it
[03:24] <crimsun_> jhenn: did you follow the tip that I gave you above?
[03:24] <maskd> jhenn: System > Preferences > Sound
[03:24] <BoukenPink> Okay, so my ATI AIW Radeon 8500DV has TV-In... and I want to record something to a video file... How would I go about doing that in Ubuntu? :3
[03:25] <jhenn> crimsun_: no i missed that sorry
[03:25] <maskd> select the sound events tab
[03:25] <maskd> then in the box thing, select log in, and press the remove button
[03:26] <crimsun_> jhenn: just disable the sound server startup
[03:26] <jhenn> crimsun_: won't i have no sound at all then
[03:26] <highwind> hello
[03:26] <Toma-> better yet, disable sound server all together.
[03:27] <smacky_wolf> Heeeeyyyy... Anyone else got a Sony Ericsson W800i?
[03:27] <BoukenPink> Anyone? :D
[03:27] <crimsun_> jhenn: you just won't have sound /events/
[03:27] <nalioth> #ubuntu-offtopic  awaits all of you folks who aren't needing ubuntu help
[03:27] <crimsun_> jhenn: you'll still have sound as long as your sound apps are configured to use gstreamer's audio sink (System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink> ALSA)
[03:28] <smacky_wolf> Ok, my bad.
[03:28] <jhenn> crimsun_: okay ill restart and try this
[03:28] <smacky_wolf> Thanks for the help, guys <3
[03:28] <jhenn> crimsun_: it was set to esd and oss should i change it to both alsa?
[03:29] <crimsun_> jhenn: only change the sink to ALSA
[03:30] <AndrewX> Toma- yeah, it does say root=/dev/sda4. I also have Windows installed, and its on /dev/hda1, which grub loads just fine.
[03:30] <AndrewX> but it chokes on loading the kernel off the sata drive
[03:31] <jhenn> crimsun_: the tests don't work
[03:31] <crimsun_> jhenn: did you uncheck sound server startup in System> Preferences> Sound ?
[03:31] <AndrewX> I'm thinking about just ditching the IDE drive at this point.
[03:31] <jhenn> crimsun_: yes
[03:31] <intelikey> just a thought AndrewX but you could copy your kernel and initrd to the hda1 and load them from there
[03:31] <Toma-> AndrewX: so the ubuntu kernel is on the SATA drive?
[03:31] <crimsun_> jhenn: pastebin the output from ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[03:32] <AndrewX> Toma: Yes. /boot = /dev/sda1    / = /dev/sda4
[03:32] <lampshade> Ok, I have a fresh server install, I want to install fluxbox, and xmms, and VNC.  How do I do this?  Normally I would say you just apt-get this and apt-get that, but apparently that is wrong or something as nothing works and everything falls apart leading to great frustration
[03:32] <Toma-> i see.
[03:32] <lampshade> is there a particular order or something.... sigh
[03:33] <skon> lampshade: did you enable your repositories and then update?
[03:33] <crimsun_> lampshade: xmms is in main; just install it. You'll need to enable universe for fluxbox and tightvnc-server.
[03:33] <crimsun_> tightvncserver^
[03:33] <lampshade> skon:  Yeah, everything installs, just... nothing talks to eachother... things don't work... either X is spiking at 99% cpu or vnc is.... one of the two.  when I tried tightvnc, it wouldn't work because it was missing some freaking fonts... which makes no sense to me
[03:34] <jhenn> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6357
[03:34] <lampshade> even after making sure xfonts-base was installed
[03:34] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[03:34] <skon> lampshade, uh that's strange, what are your specs?
[03:34] <crimsun_> lampshade: pastebin the errors
[03:35] <epix> who wants to help me fix a broken partition table?
[03:35] <skon> not me!
[03:35] <skon> I had trouble with partitions that nobody could help me with :o
[03:35] <epix> anyone?
[03:35] <jhenn> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6358
[03:36] <braniff> epix, what's wrong with it?
[03:36] <skon> epix what's the quesiton
[03:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell epix about anyone
[03:36] <epix> im this |--| close to just reinstalling
[03:36] <crimsun_> jhenn: oh boy.
[03:36] <AndrewX> so to sum up, /boot = /dev/sda1   / = /dev/sda4    C:\ = /dev/hda1       breezy install loads grub onto /dev/hda no matter what and gives a kernel panic: vfs: can't mount root fs error when loading the kernel.
[03:36] <AndrewX> but windows is fine. =/
[03:36] <epix> ok, i ran parted and my computer crashed.
[03:36] <epix> screwing over my patition table. Ubuntu wont boot.
[03:37] <epix> my setup is /boot on one partition and everything else on another
[03:37] <pashaw> epix,    it actually crashed  or after you finished ubuntu wont boot?
[03:37] <skon> did you reinstall grub?
[03:37] <xiaogil> firefox tries to download my php script instead of running it, what can I do ?
[03:37] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink, select Custom. Then in the text entry field below it, type: alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[03:37] <epix> pashaw: it crashed during
[03:37] <epix> skon: no.
[03:37] <purplefeltangel> can someone tell me how to get Grub to hve Windows at the top and not have the ten-second-default-thingy?
[03:37] <skon> epix: might want to try that
[03:37] <epix> cfdisk can read the table fine. so its not that screwed :P
[03:38] <Toma-> AndrewX: what is the 'root  (hdX,X)' line say?
[03:38] <epix> skon: can i do it from live?
[03:38] <skon> epix: you do that from the main install CD
[03:38] <lampshade> crimsun_:  there are too many to even begin... That's why I mean it feels like the system fell apart... I felt like I have to do everything manually--  first it complained there was no xsession, so I made one with "exec fluxbox"  then fluxbox wouldn't work properly because the xorg package didn't install xterm or some crap but after xterm was installed it seemed to work but then it only worked when physically at the machine not through VNC(UGhhhhh
[03:38] <AndrewX> Toma: in the grub conf?
[03:38] <jhenn> crimsun_: okay ill brb my irssi is messing up
[03:38] <Toma-> yeh
[03:38] <AndrewX> toma: or the error msg?
[03:38] <Toma-> in grub
[03:38] <bob832> whats the easiest way to setup acpi in gnome?  saw that in kde, all you have to do is go to control panel and was wondering if there is something just as easy in gnome
[03:38] <epix> skon: can you do it from the live CD? I have it booted atm.
[03:38] <AndrewX> (hd1,0)
[03:38] <AndrewX> err
[03:38] <crimsun_> bob832: it should work automagically.
[03:39] <AndrewX> wait
[03:39] <snkmchnb> maybe someone could point me in the right direction, i'm looking for a package list for ubuntu live
[03:39] <skon> epix: I don't know how
[03:39] <jhenn> crimsun_: back
[03:39] <lampshade> I'm blowing away the machine and then starting fresh.  First I'm going to apt-get update and upgrade.  then install xserver-xorg then fluxbox
[03:39] <crimsun_> lampshade: so start pastebining them.
[03:39] <jhenn> crimsun_: test still isn't working for that
[03:39] <epix> skon: im thinking of just wiping the whole thing. I made backups.
[03:39] <skon> ubotu: tell snkmchnb about easysource
[03:39] <crimsun_> jhenn: open a Terminal and try: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[03:40] <skon> epix: lol, okay
[03:40] <epix> skon: the only thing that i need to fix is some config, but I have set up ndiswrapper SO many times that I can do it very quickly
[03:40] <skon> epix: that alllllways fixes things
[03:40] <snkmchnb> ty
[03:40] <skon> yw
[03:40] <epix> skon: ill rescue anything important now :)
[03:40] <bob832> crimsun_:  oh, saw that in kde, things like suspend, cpu throttling, etc were disabled (unchecked in the control panel) by default
[03:40] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   you get an answer?
[03:40] <bob832> and figured i had to enable them
[03:40] <skon> epix: ah ndiswrapper...i love that thing...it was so easy once I figured out how it worked haha
[03:40] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: nope not yet
[03:40] <crimsun_> bob832: Ubuntu and Kubuntu handle ACPI stuff differently
[03:40] <intelikey> epix mount your installed ubuntu some place like /mnt      and do a sudo chroot /mnt grub-install /dev/hda        assumes ide master.
[03:41] <jhenn> crimsun_: it just sits there
[03:41] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, something still has it open. lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[03:41] <epix> intelikey: mount throws an error: operation not supported.
[03:42] <bob832> so is it safe to say that ubuntu = auto. acpi     kubuntu = some assembly required?
[03:42] <crimsun_> bob832: yes and no.
[03:42] <crimsun_> bob832: the deciding factor is the hardware itself
[03:42] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   edit /boot/grub/menu.1st   you want to ONLY change near the top it will say  default    0         count your kernels starting with 0,1,2,3,4  til you hit your windows ntry  and change default to that #
[03:42] <intelikey> epix  you can test to see if the partition/s are intact with   sudo fdisk -l
[03:42] <jhenn> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6359
[03:43] <skon> epix: did you do sudo?
[03:43] <Sunn_T> I just burned 3 ubuntu disks. All 3 won't let me finish installing the "Base System". I did an integrity check of the CDs. All 3 failed. Two CDs were corrupted on the same file, and the other on a different one. Is the CD burner the problem?
[03:43] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   as long as you dont change anything else   you can always manually select your boot kernel  to fix it
[03:43] <gr3g123> Hey guys, im trying to install mysql-cc, and im getting this error: mysqlcc: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.3-3) but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <crimsun_> jhenn: close the System> Preferences windows
[03:43] <jono> ok x remote bods - how do I run a remote x app on my current laptop but so it uses the settings on the remote computer ?
[03:43] <bob832> crimsun_:  oh ok then
[03:43] <epix> intelikey: it is.
[03:43] <gr3g123> how can i fix it
[03:43] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: so wait, will there just be windows and ubuntu, or do all those other things of ubuntu (safe mode or whatever) count?
[03:43] <skon> Sunn_T: did you do a checksum?
[03:43] <epix> intelikey: i do sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/system
[03:43] <jhenn> crimsun_: okay works
[03:43] <intelikey> epix use   ls /    to make sure that /mnt exists
[03:43] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,  all count    first uncommented entry is 0
[03:43] <epix> intelikey: i made the dir
[03:44] <intelikey> k
[03:44] <bob832> crimsun_:  thanks
[03:44] <Sunn_T> skon - I did somethink like that. The install disk let me check the integrity of the files and such.
[03:44] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   each entry starts with "title"
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: ok i'll try that
[03:44] <xiaogil> how to block the uninstallation of the package phpmyadmin ?
[03:44] <skon> Sunn_T: where did you download from? is it the correct size?
[03:44] <Sunn_T> The ubuntu website.
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: wait, where is the "boot" folder? ^_^;
[03:44] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   then below   default youll see you time out option
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> oh nvm
[03:45] <intelikey> epix you can  sudo umount /dev/hda*    then try to mount it again.
[03:45] <jhenn> crimsun_: some apps are still giving me problems
[03:45] <intelikey> and yes that will spew errors
[03:45] <skon> Sunn_T: well do a checksum where you get the number of bytes in the file and then you compare that to the number on the download site (don't remember off the top of my head where it was)
[03:46] <Sunn_T> The ISO file is the same size as what it's supposed to be before download.
[03:46] <epix> intelikey: oper not supported
[03:46] <intelikey> command ?
[03:46] <crimsun_> jhenn: which works?
[03:46] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: i think windows is 6; does that sound right? :/
[03:46] <epix> intelikey: mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/sys
[03:46] <crimsun_> jhenn: the aplay?
[03:46] <jhenn> crimsun_: actually its working
[03:46] <epix> intelikey: sudoed
[03:46] <jhenn> crimsun_: do you use audacity?
[03:46] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, good.
[03:46] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: and what should i set the timeout to to get there to be no timeout at all? 0 or just some extremely high number?
[03:47] <skon> Sunn_T: and what are you burning it with? you might try burning it at a lower speed too if you are having buffer underrun problems
[03:47] <crimsun_> jhenn: yes but not on this computer.
[03:47] <jhenn> crimsun_: so im using alsa now?
[03:47] <xiaogil> I can't uninstall phpmyadmin, is that a general bug ??
[03:47] <crimsun_> jhenn: yes
[03:47] <intelikey> modprobe reiserfs ?
[03:47] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,    dont go below 2-3
[03:47] <crimsun_> jhenn: (you were using ALSA before, too, just through esd)
[03:47] <bob832> crimsun_:  how could i test something like cpu throttling to see if it is working correctly (in other words, see how much it throttles my cpu)  ?
[03:47] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: i don't understand. D:
[03:47] <epix> intelikey: oper not supported
[03:47] <HrdwrBoB> bob832: with the CPU speed panel applet
[03:47] <pashaw> purplefeltangel, too low  youll have a heck of a time picking anything but default
[03:48] <crimsun_> bob832: if you leave it idle, it should automatically throttle down.
[03:48] <jhenn> crimsun_: audacity says "error while opening sound device. Please check the input device settings and the project sample rate." what does that mean?
[03:48] <bob832> oh, didn't realize there was an applet for that  lol
[03:48] <Sunn_T> skon - The cheksum is correct.
[03:48] <crimsun_> jhenn: you need to close /all/ open audio apps before starting Audacity
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: oh, for the timeout! ok. but the number of a given kernel (ie windows) is just its order on the list?
[03:49] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   yes
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> ok, thank you!!
[03:49] <skon> Sunn_T: read above
[03:49] <xiaogil> E: phpmyadmin: le sous-processus pre-removal script a retourn une erreur de sortie d'tat 127
[03:49] <xiaogil> what's wrong with phpmyadmin ?
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: er, gragh, how do i get the file to not be read-only?
[03:49] <pashaw> purplefeltangel,   sudo
[03:49] <epix> intelikey: i will remind you that this partition is most likely rather screwed over...
[03:50] <Sunn_T> skon - I burned it at 40x and then at 8x. I think that 8x is the lowest my burner will go.
[03:50] <intelikey> afirmed
[03:50] <intelikey> ff
[03:50] <crimsun_> jhenn: also, lsmod|grep ^snd_pcm_oss
[03:50] <purplefeltangel> pashaw: umm sudo what ^^;;; sorry i'm so bad at this
[03:50] <skon> Sunn_T: with what program, under what OS
[03:51] <Malachai> Can I ask an OpenOffice.org question? Noone responds in their IRC channel...
[03:51] <xiaogil> why phpmyadmin is unremovable ?
[03:51] <nalioth> Malachai: ask
[03:51] <intelikey> booting live cd on a slow system,  give me a minute epix
[03:51] <Toma-> Malachai: go ahead
[03:51] <pashaw> purplefeltangel, your taking a risk understand?     sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st      just change  default # and timeout nothing else
[03:51] <Sunn_T> I used Alcohol 120 and NTI CD-Maker Gold.
[03:51] <jhenn> crimsun_: snd_pcm_oss            65024  0
[03:51] <epix> intelikey: no problem.
[03:51] <Sunn_T> WinXP
[03:51] <jono> any mplayer experts here?
[03:51] <purplefeltangel> pashaw ok thank you
[03:51] <crimsun_> jhenn: ok, then you should be fine.
[03:51] <crimsun_> jono: I'm no expert, but what do you need?
[03:52] <epix> on another subject, should windows be installed first, or ubuntu?
[03:52] <jhenn> crimsun_: i close 'em and its still not letting me record
[03:52] <crimsun_> epix: Windows.
[03:52] <nalioth> jono: just ask your question
[03:52] <nalioth> epix: windows first
[03:52] <intelikey> win
[03:52] <Malachai> In calc, I want some cells to update automatically. When I enter information into one cell, I want corresponding cells to automatically take the info and calculate the result.
[03:52] <jhenn> crimsun_: i want to record the sound output on my system
[03:52] <Malachai> Instead of having to drag the crosshair down from the cell above it.
[03:52] <epix> nalioth: crimsun_ : do i let windows handle partitions?
[03:52] <jhenn> crimsun_: in non-compressed format
[03:52] <nalioth> epix: nope.
[03:52] <jono>  is there a way I can run mplayer on my laptop and have it display the video that is cat'ed from /dev/video1 on my desktop - so basically I want to cat /dev/video1 and view it on my laptop
[03:52] <crimsun_> jhenn: you can do that with arecord, too
[03:52] <epix> nalioth: so, create partitions then install windows?
[03:53] <crimsun_> jhenn: or the Sound Recorder
[03:53] <skon> Sunn_T: not sure what the problem is, but it's probably your software or your burner.....there is a program called "DVD Burner" (download.com) which works well, maybe you could try
[03:53] <Haukkari> jono: eh? :)
[03:53] <nalioth> epix: you can give windows 5gb and leave the rest free
[03:53] <skon> Sunn_T: besides that, not quite sure...sorry....you could always request free CDs fromUbuntu
[03:53] <Haukkari> jono: like in ASCII letters?
[03:53] <epix> nalioth: i need a bit more.