[02:53] <erichammond> elmoro: When you use a different kernel (aki) than the default, you also need to specify the corresponding ramdisk (ari) for that kernel.
[02:53] <erichammond> In the case of kernel aki-550d2521, the corresponding ramdisk is ari-f4193180
[02:54] <erichammond> So, the full start command you want (tested to work) is:
[02:54] <erichammond> ec2-run-instances --region eu-west-1 --instance-type m1.large -k KEYPAIR --kernel aki-550d2521 --ramdisk ari-f4193180 ami-5486ae20


[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[07:19] <dholbach> if you ever need a shorter url for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ try ubuntusucks.com
[07:19] <dholbach> I wonder who has too much time to set up URLs like that
[08:12] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:12] <czajkowski> dholbach: people who are bitter and childish
[08:12] <dholbach> yeah, whatever :)
[08:13] <czajkowski> indeed
[08:31] <huats> hello !
[08:36] <kim0> chrome seriously needs to go on a diet, it eats 3.5G of RAM for no reason
[08:53] <czajkowski> I'm running tweet deck in chrome and from time to time that spikes to 110 %
[08:53] <czajkowski> PITA
[08:59] <kim0> yeah, it's fast n all, but needs tons of ram
[08:59] <czajkowski> yes, but it is fast
[08:59] <czajkowski> and if you're having a conversation with someone, it does work
[08:59] <czajkowski> but I've not had gwibber working in about 3 weeks on this machine, Natty.
[09:00] <czajkowski> I also hate the 5 min refreshes
[09:09] <akgraner> dholbach, that url is hilarious!  Haters make you famous! :-)
[09:30] <nigelb> dholbach: hehe, we should link it everywhere! :-P
[09:31] <nigelb> dholbach: y'know, its owned by Canonical ;)
[09:31] <nigelb> akgraner: ^
[09:31] <nigelb> ubuntusucks.com domain that is :P
[09:31] <akgraner> That makes it even funnier...
[09:32] <nigelb> haha, yes
[09:32] <nigelb> I like companies that want to make fun of themselves just for laughs :)
[09:33] <dholbach> nigelb, it seems adding an index for the fields we mentioned yesterday makes the thing slower(?)
[09:33] <nigelb> dholbach: didn't get a chance. I crashed last night since I had a bad day.
[09:33] <nigelb> I'll try tonight
[09:33] <akgraner> nigelb, you can't have bad days! ;-P
[09:33] <dholbach> 15m22s (with indexes) vs 5m37s (unmodified trunk)
[09:33] <dholbach> which is really weird
[09:34] <dholbach> for 10k wgets of '/'
[09:34] <nigelb> dholbach: okay, it is :|
[09:34] <dholbach> I'll ask somebody for help with this
[09:34] <nigelb> dholbach: okay, it might be stupid question, but did you verify that indexes were done inside postfix?
[09:34] <dholbach> the caching seems to make sense in any case
[09:34] <nigelb> yeah, we need someone who rocks with postfix, I hardly know that beast
[09:34] <nigelb> if you can grab stub or jtv, they could throw better light
[09:35] <nigelb> akgraner: there are days... :)
[09:35] <akgraner> :-)  I know  - I jest...perhaps a bit too much...
[09:36] <dholbach> nigelb, let me try from scratch again
[09:37] <nigelb> dholbach: hehe :)
[09:37] <nigelb> ok, back to work. sort of sprinting at work today
[10:39] <dholbach> nigelb, ok, I was doing it wrong, I guess
[10:39] <dholbach> 9m → 1m30s
[10:41] <nigelb> dholbach: w00t!
[10:41] <nigelb> dholbach: also earlier, I meant postgres, not postfix :P
[10:41] <dholbach> yeah, I thought so :)
[10:41] <nigelb> I've been configuring postfix all day at work :D
[10:41] <dholbach> yeah, it messes with your brain :)
[10:41] <nigelb> Totally!
[10:42] <dholbach> so if we play around with both branches a bit, I guess that should help a lot
[10:42] <nigelb> dholbach: I think we should also cache that anyway. Since we don't want the '/' to take a lot of time
[10:42] <nigelb> can we have memcached on that machine?  Time for new ISP?
[13:40] <mhall119> locmem isn't good if you're using multiple appservers, since it can't share
[13:40] <mhall119> nigelb: my only other option is worse, Verizon
[13:41] <nigelb> mhall119: oh :/
[13:42] <nigelb> mhall119: So I asked around and I was told locmem should be avoided in favor of memcached.
[13:44] <mhall119> ok
[14:30] <jcastro> mhall119: are you the real mhall?
[14:31] <jcastro> sponsorship suggestions are broken on summit btw
[14:31] <mhall119> jcastro: did you file a detailed bug for us?
[14:31] <jcastro> no
[14:31] <jcastro> I can though
[14:31] <mhall119> I don't think we've touched any of that, and we haven't deployed anything recently
[14:32] <mhall119> so it could be that summit lost data during the moves, just like loco-directory did
[14:32] <mhall119> which would be..... bad
[14:32] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/829529
[14:32] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 829529 in summit "Submitting someone for sponsorships doesn't work" [Undecided,New]
[14:33] <jcastro> the names in the there look normal
[14:33] <jcastro> everything appears fine
[14:33] <jcastro> other than that not working
[14:34] <mhall119> jcastro: hmmm, it's erroring on launchpad api calls to lookup the user
[14:34] <mhall119> I bet it's caused by a username change in LP
[15:05] <paultag> Oh LP! I have cookies in the oven!
[15:07] <cjohnston> i want cookies
[15:22] <nigelb> mhall119: can you get me the traceback for the error jcastro saw?
[15:23] <nigelb> (after removing private username etc)
[15:23] <jcastro> hey so it's not an "error" per say
[15:23] <nigelb> oh?
[15:23] <jcastro> it's just it doesn't have error handling when a launchpad name doesn't exist
[15:23] <nigelb> ah, fix0ring
[15:23] <jcastro> It just needs to go "this name doesn't exist"
[15:23] <nigelb> that's the kind of fixings we've been doing lately
[15:23] <nigelb> sure, on it!
[15:23] <jcastro> for bonus points put a link to the people search thing in LP
[15:24] <jcastro> so the person at least has a way to quickly do a lookup in launchpad
[15:24] <nigelb> actually, we should give you a lookup thingy
[15:24] <jcastro> which will then take them 4 hours to figure out, but that's not our problem. :)
[15:24] <nigelb> launchpad should have an anon API for that.
[15:24] <nigelb> on it!
[15:53] <nigelb> mhall119: do you want an MP against summit trunk or stable for this fix?
[15:53] <nigelb> I have a fix that throws a validation error.
[15:56] <jono> hey all
[15:56] <nigelb> hello jono
[15:57] <jono> howdy nigelb
[15:57]  * jono is a little hungover
[15:58] <nigelb> Now I know how a sprint feels
[15:58] <jono> nigelb, oh, no sprint here, my pal is visiting
[15:58] <jono> so last night we went out
[15:58] <nigelb> Today, I was pretty much in a room with a colleague working through my task list.
[15:58] <nigelb> so. Exhausted :)
[15:58] <nigelb> jono: fun! jfo?
[15:58] <jono> I can imagine!
[15:58] <jono> dpm, about set?
[15:58] <dholbach> jono, I feel your pain - I had alcohol-unrelated headache today
[15:58] <jono> dholbach, ugh
[15:58] <dholbach> but it's much better now :)
[15:59] <jono> ahhh cool :-)
[15:59] <jono> nigelb, nope, it was Aq
[15:59] <dpm> hey jono, yep!
[15:59] <jono> aq is here for a week with his daughter
[15:59] <nigelb> jono: oooh,yeah, I read about it on twitter!
[15:59] <jono> and tonight we are going to do some grilling
[15:59] <nigelb> I expect loud noised british accents :P
[15:59] <nigelb> and lots of drinking
[16:00] <jono> hehe
[16:00] <jono> indeed
[16:01] <jono> dpm, can we do skype?
[16:01] <jono> no webcam today
[16:02] <dpm> jono, sure
[16:02]  * dpm wonders if this has anything to do with an epic night out drinking with aq
[16:03] <jono> dpm, nothing
[16:03] <jono> lol
[16:03] <dpm> ;)
[16:03] <jono> my webcam is in his room
[16:05] <czajkowski> jono: I won't be online next week for conf call
[16:07] <paultag> czajkowski: I can take it if it's not during work hours
[16:09] <dholbach> nigelb, I'm currently playing around with the harvest improvements again
[16:09] <dholbach> did you have a chance to play around with them?
[16:09] <nigelb> dholbach: sure, after I close of this summit bug jcastro logged.
[16:09] <dholbach> ah great
[16:13] <jcastro> jono: !
[16:13] <jcastro> jono: intel blur bug is fixed and was just uploaded
[16:13] <jcastro> it's FAST now.
[16:13] <jono> jcastro, woo!
[16:13] <dholbach> mhall119: did the stuff in pad.lv/mps/harvest look like a generally good approach to you (I might have missed your comments earlier)
[16:13] <jcastro> jono: so I guess when you come back from lunch it should be built and published
[16:14] <jono> jcastro, nice!
[16:14] <popey> anyone got any idea what it's called when you register a xxx://foo url so when someone clicks a link like that (like itunes itms://) it kicks off a desktop app?
[16:14] <popey> and where I might find sample code to do it?
[16:14] <jcastro> popey: GNOME does this afaik
[16:14] <jcastro> the apps don't
[16:14] <popey> sure, but you call gnome to do it from the app?
[16:14] <dholbach> popey, seb128 should know - it's something to do with mime types
[16:14] <popey> at install
[16:15] <popey> ahhh, mimes, yes
[16:15] <jcastro> popey: there's some mime thing
[16:15] <dholbach> I did it once, but forget again
[16:15] <popey> oh hang on, doesn't u1ms do it with u1ms:// links?
[16:15] <nigelb> popey: look at how apturl works?
[16:15] <nigelb> https://launchpad.net/apturl
[16:15] <popey> ahhh, also good
[16:15] <jcastro> "I have a blah:///" "ok, let me look it up, ok, launch this app."
[16:15] <popey> excellent
[16:15] <popey> yeah, that kind of thing jcastro
[16:15] <nigelb> popey: don't you love us? :)
[16:15] <popey> knew you lot would know
[16:15] <popey> :D
[16:15] <popey> yes
[16:15] <czajkowski> paultag: it's at 9pm UTC
[16:17] <dholbach> nigelb, I tried it on a beefier machine which was almost idle, there the indexes almost had no impact (I think we should still get them in though, because they'll make all the other queries for active opportunities faster), the caching still did have an impact of around a third less time
[16:18] <nigelb> dholbach: Yeah, we should get both in.  If I new more about indexing, we could have looked at what more fields need indexing
[16:18] <nigelb> dholbach: I think some of the LP folks can help there, or ISD if they have free time ;)
[16:18] <dholbach> as far as I can see these should be the most important ones for now
[16:18] <paultag> czajkowski: might be fine, which day?
[16:19] <nigelb> dholbach: I agree :)
[16:19] <dholbach> nigelb, the last_updated one is important because harvest will only show opportunities as 'active' if the last_updated timestamp of the opportunity matches the one of opportunity list (it doesn't delete data)
[16:20] <nigelb> dholbach: oooh! that should give us huge gains over time
[16:20] <dholbach> that gives us an additional JOIN for queries, but it allows us to have stats at some stage (how many opportunities were closed at which time, etc.)
[16:20] <nigelb> dholbach: we should run a cron to delete data btw, if the bug is fixed or something like that.
[16:20] <nigelb> ah, the stats
[16:20] <nigelb> ok, don't delete, but move eit off to an archive table so the joins are faster, maybe?
[16:20] <dholbach> opportunity data is not that much of a deal I think
[16:21] <dholbach> at some stage maybe, yes
[16:21] <nigelb> the indexing should help us significantly, lets see if it degrades further later on
[16:22] <popey> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/apturl/ubuntu/view/head:/data/apturl.schemas.in
[16:22] <popey> looks like that does the registration?
[16:22] <nigelb> yeah :)
[16:22] <nigelb> why not ping mvo for confirmation?
[16:22] <popey> nah, I'll have a play :D
[16:23] <nigelb> heh :)
[16:24] <nigelb> mhall119: do you want to do a summit release today?
[16:25] <nigelb> Just to impress jcastro really :P
[16:33] <nigelb> fuuuuuu
[16:33] <nigelb> just realized I have to attend a wedding tomorrow.
[16:33] <nigelb> Drat, not even a clean shirt around
[16:34] <paultag> nigelb: who needs a shirt at a wedding?
[16:34] <popey> Hey, I can iron that for you
[16:34] <nigelb> paultag: :/
[16:35] <popey> I have another question for you nigelb :D
[16:36] <popey> is there some sample code I could look at that would go on a website and (in python) would do the openID logon dance?
[16:36] <nigelb> popey: yes
[16:36] <nigelb> popey: both summit and loco-directory have the openID dance bit
[16:36] <popey> something smaller? :D
[16:36] <popey> and perhaps not django ☺
[16:36] <nigelb> Flask?
[16:37] <popey> que?
[16:37] <nigelb> There is a site I know that does stuff in Flask, but its an openID consumer and oauth provider so it might be slightly tricky
[16:37] <mhall119> nigelb: there will be no deploying summit until I've recovered all the data
[16:37] <popey> I want to make a site that uses launchpad for auth
[16:37] <popey> or ubuntu SSO whatever it's called
[16:38] <nigelb> popey: and not using django? ;)
[16:38] <nigelb> mhall119: ouch, okay.
[16:38] <popey> well, I could use django
[16:38] <popey> that would mean.. learning django
[16:38] <nigelb> heh
[16:39] <nigelb> I'm not sure if we have something around with open source that uses something other than django with open id.
[16:40] <popey> ok, django it is then
[16:40] <popey> it's a very simple app so I could probably figure it out
[16:40] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[16:40] <popey> https://launchpad.net/django-openid-auth
[16:40] <dholbach> have a great WE!
[16:40] <popey> something lik ethat?
[16:40] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach
[16:40] <popey> you too dholbach
[16:40] <nigelb> popey: yeah
[16:40] <popey> *hugs*
[16:41] <dholbach> HUGS
[16:41] <nigelb> popey: I was looking for that :)
[16:41] <popey> found it via james h' blog
[16:41] <nigelb> mhall119: need help with data recovery?
[16:41] <popey> I am pretty much throwing this together
[16:42] <nigelb> heh
[16:42] <popey> be faster for me to just pay someone else to do it :D
[16:42] <nigelb> Probably, yeah ;)
[16:42]  * popey considers this
[16:42]  * nigelb notes there's AlanBell and libertus :D
[16:44] <czajkowski> paultag: wednesday
[16:44] <AlanBell> not quite our thing
[16:44] <popey> hehe
[16:45] <AlanBell> o/ czajkowski
[16:45] <czajkowski> AlanBell: ello
[16:45] <nigelb> popey: depending on what you're trying to do I might be able to help
[16:47]  * AlanBell has just come back from rockpool fishing
[16:47] <czajkowski> AlanBell: in -ie or -uk ?
[16:48] <nigelb> probably ie
[16:48] <nigelb> he was in ie in the morning at least
[16:48] <AlanBell> I should go join the local loco team channel
[16:48] <nigelb> oh dear.
[16:48] <nigelb> I just thought "there was somer really good documentation to do $foo somwhere"
[16:48] <czajkowski> indeed we're nice
[16:49] <nigelb> I *wrote* those docs. Sigh.
[17:00] <doctormo> pleia2 7 nigelb: Thoughts on the draft2 of this: http://imagebin.org/168702
[17:01] <nigelb> doctormo: are those pins?
[17:01] <nigelb> <3
[17:01] <doctormo> nigelb: You mean badges?
[17:01] <nigelb> yeah
[17:03] <dpm> ok, I'm finally heading for the weekend. Have a good one everyone!
[17:04] <popey> i like that doctormo
[17:05] <doctormo> nigelb: It's actually a poster/sticker for Vancouver LoCo, we've been collaborating.
[17:06] <doctormo> Hey popey, have a good time at OggCamp/
[17:06] <nigelb> doctormo: Nice job :)
[17:06] <nigelb> doctormo: did you see AlanBell's pyrokinetics' video from oggcamp? ;)
[17:07] <doctormo> No, do you have a link?
[17:07] <nigelb> looking
[17:09] <nigelb> doctormo: https://plus.google.com/109175303602657131317/posts/SjwA3kCHD1S
[17:16] <nigelb> jcastro: how much do you love me? :) https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/validate-lp-name/+merge/72229
[17:16] <jcastro> I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH.
[17:16] <paultag> nigelb: that's not how you say it :)
[17:16] <jcastro> Just kidding, I love you an above average amount.
[17:16] <paultag> nigelb: say:
[17:17] <paultag> jcastro: who's your daddy?
[17:17] <paultag> nigelb: try it!
[17:17] <nigelb> haha
[17:17] <nigelb> no thanks :)
[17:17] <paultag> nigelb: dude! Try it!
[17:21] <nigelb> doctormo: aq lighting his cigarette with that is pretty much my most favorite scene on that
[17:22] <doctormo> nigelb: Yeah, thanks for the link :-)
[17:23] <nigelb> np :)
[17:38] <jcastro> hey nigelb
[17:39] <nigelb> jcastro: hi
[17:40] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts
[17:40] <jcastro> do you see those keycap CSS things?
[17:40] <jcastro> can we have that in light-themes?
[17:40] <jcastro> so I can move that page to unity.ubuntu.com?
[17:40] <nigelb> let me try
[17:40] <jcastro> no rush
[17:40] <jcastro> I can't get to it for a while anyway
[17:41] <jcastro> I just think it'd be useful for documenting things to have keycap CSS
[17:41] <nigelb> sure, I'll try to get it done this weekend, doing it should be trivial, testing, not so trivial ;)
[17:54] <nigelb> jcastro: \o/ https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/ubuntu-community-webthemes/kbd-style/+merge/72238
[17:54] <paultag> nigelb: "who's your daddy"
[17:54] <paultag> nigelb: just say it
[17:54] <nigelb> haha
[17:55] <paultag> srsly
[17:55] <nigelb> NO WAY I'm saying that :D
[17:55] <paultag> it's not rude
[17:55] <paultag> nigelb: why?
[17:56] <nigelb> paultag: I think I might say it when I give YOU an MP :)
[17:56] <paultag> nigelb: that's fine :)
[17:56] <paultag> nigelb: send me code and you can call me papa smurf
[17:57] <nigelb> heh
[17:57] <nigelb> okay, time to get to my to-do list
[18:00] <doctormo> nigelb: Why would you give paultag a Member of Parliament?
[18:03] <paultag> doctormo: ha! Jokes.
[18:04] <doctormo> paultag: Where are you? I need you here with me, setting up LoCo events.
[18:04] <paultag> doctormo: I'm @ BC right now, my weekend's slamed. When do you want to plot?
[18:04] <doctormo> I'll be at PiCon next weekend, perhaps sometime after?
[18:05] <paultag> doctormo: roger that. Shal we plot over tea?
[18:05] <doctormo> Indeed we shall my good fellow.
[18:05] <paultag> righto
[18:36] <popey> until /40
[18:36] <popey> bah!
[18:36] <popey> yes doctormo it was great :D
[18:37] <doctormo> popey: Did you get to meet Andrew Bates?
[18:37] <popey> is he the guy with the Back to the future hat?
[18:37] <popey> audio nerd from liverpool?
[18:43] <doctormo> popey: Sort of from Liverpool, from Widnes actually. Good friend of mine, was until I alienated him with too much foss.
[18:44] <doctormo> popey: So imagine by shock when I hear his voice on your podcast. Disbelief. I think he went with another fella down there.


[05:45] <surfzoid> Hi
[05:47] <surfzoid> I develop with Qtcreator and commit/push at Github, after i comit/push again to launchpad, is there a webhook like CORP to automaticaly build when Github create a new release/tag?
[05:54] <surfzoid> i saw https://help.launchpad.net/API/Webhooks#Git_push
[05:55] <surfzoid> but really don't understand how to format URL or find a generated one by the web UI
[06:07] <jugmac00> @surfzoid: Could you rephrase your question and exactly specify what you want to achieve? It is not entirely clear to me. Also, from my understanding the webhooks of Launchpad are outgoing. So you e.g. you push to a git repository on Launchpad, and that is creating a post request to some custom URL that you can specify.
 "@surfzoid: Could you rephrase..." <- exactly, i need the invert, Github send to lauchpad through a webook URL
[07:02]  * surfzoid uploaded an image: (133KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/fAArJahHNfFZaGPglTsdHfjj/image.png >
[07:04] <surfzoid> https://github.com/surfzoid/QtVsPlayer/actions/runs/4782902070/workflow
[07:33] <jugmac00> @surfzoid: Afaik this is currently only possible when building Snaps, not debs, which I assume you try to build. While I am aware of regular requests regarding webhooks, I am not aware of a specific bug report/ feature request. Could you please create one at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad ? Thank you!
[13:54] <cjwatson> There will be a brief outage shortly while we switch DB primary.
 "@surfzoid: Afaik this is..." <- https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/2017588
[17:39] -ubottu:#launchpad- Launchpad bug 2017588 in Launchpad itself "GitHub Webhook feature request" [Undecided, New]


[03:25] <maco> apachelogger: on that screen for configuring public folders, wordwrap would be good. the end of the "Below the folders can be..." sentence gets cut off on small windows.  also, i think you need a comma after "Below"
[03:47] <dantti> someone knows how do I reenable APT::Get::AutomaticRemove ? I really don't know how this changed (maybe testing kpk removing and installing k3b too many times ) :P
[04:03] <JontheEchidna> I personally use amor :P
[04:10] <dantti> k3b is shorter :P
[04:23] <JontheEchidna> dantti: I think synaptic might be able to control that option in its config
[04:23] <JontheEchidna> thinking about it
[04:24] <dantti> hmm I'll try as soon as I fix kpk again :P
[04:31] <dantti> JontheEchidna: no, I could not find it..
[06:03] <maco> ok i have a reason why to switch back to konversation from quassel
[06:03] <maco> quassel isnt kde-enough to work with the univeral menu plasmoid
[06:24] <jussi> maco: hrm? which plasmoid?
[06:24] <maco> jussi: universal menu plasmoid for KNR that agateau is making
[06:24] <jussi> maco: worked last time I checked...
[06:25] <maco> hmm does quassel but not quasselclient work with it?
[06:25] <jussi> no, it should. I had it working at UDS...
[06:25] <maco> cuz i see menu in the normal spot and the universal menu plasmoid says "no items"
[06:28] <jussi> maco: maybe someone broke something, either in quassel or universal menu
[06:29] <maco> id guess quassel because kmail and choqok both do it right
[06:30] <maco> huh thats funny. just realised i type q with my ring finger instead of pinky
[06:40] <dantti> ok, time to sleep almost 3am
[06:42] <dantti> Riddell: you can get KPackageKit from svn, tough it wasn't tested enough and the dialog does not hide the details, there is probably some bugs yet http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopgo1566
[06:42] <dantti> but I won't change strings anymore
[08:03] <maco> http://kde-apps.org/poll/index.php?poll=256  <-- Kubuntu wins with 16%
[09:35] <markey> morning
[09:35] <markey> is there a Qt Creator 2.0 package for Lucid?
[09:36] <apachelogger> markey: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[09:37] <apachelogger> although I am not entirely sure why it is in beta backports :S
[09:37] <markey> ok, I'll check
[09:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^ why is it in beta backports?
[09:38] <debfx> probably because it requires qt 4.7 beta
[10:07] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/kcmodule/FolderModule.cpp wordwrap++ comma++ maco++
[10:09] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* sn-kcm-close-kcm-authkwalletaccess.kcrash remove fixed crash backtrace
[10:23] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/share/SharePropertiesWidget.h documentation++
[10:24] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/share/SharePropertiesWidget.h include fix
[10:54] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (3 files in 2 dirs) documentation++
[11:17] <Sput> maco: noone told me before about issues, but I can have a look into that before the stringfreeze... what is this "universal menu plasmoid" doing? does it use dbusmenu?
[11:21] <jussi> Sput: it steals the menu from $open-application and puts it to the plasmoid in the panel
[11:22] <jussi> so makes it somewhat apple like...
[11:22] <Sput> oh, we're not talking the tray menu, but the application menu?
[11:23] <Sput> hmmm... that should work, Quassel is using a proper KMainWindow (unless maco was using the non-KDE version of course)
[11:23] <jussi> http://agateau.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/getting-menus-out-of-application-windows-2/
[11:23] <jussi> Sput: yeah, I havent tried recently, but I expect it works....
[11:24] <Sput> actually that sounds like it's a pure-Qt feature even
[11:24] <jussi> last time I tried (at UDS) it worked
[11:24] <Sput> ok
[11:26] <jussi> Sput: have we gotten any closer to channel specific/word specific highlighting?
[11:26] <Sput> apparently not
[11:26] <jussi> :(
[11:27] <jussi> thats like bug 181 or so! :(
[11:27] <jussi> oh shush ubottu
[12:28] <CIA-61> [libqapt] mlaurent * 1163138 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Fix mem leak
[12:57] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (libs/Share.h libs/SyncDaemon.cpp statusnotifier/Main.cpp) documentation++
[12:57] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/share/Messages.sh make ubuntuone-share translatable
[13:19] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (5 files in 2 dirs) factor file stuff into own class
[13:19] <Riddell> davidbarth: did you test the new konversation build?
[13:32] <ScottK> Sput: Quassel works great with agateau's appmenu.
[13:32] <ScottK> Riddell: Did the planet KDE maintainers go insane?  I have literally 4,632 new p.k.o posts in my Akregator this morning.
[13:33] <davidbarth> Riddell: hi; i did
[13:33] <davidbarth> Riddell: the messaging menu part works well
[13:34] <davidbarth> Riddell: i think the bug is closed now
[13:35] <davidbarth> Riddell: however, there is an issue with the appmenu part: no kde apps I have here do export their menus
[13:36] <ScottK> davidbarth: Are you starting the apps in the session or are they restored from saved session?
[13:36]  * ScottK has had some trouble with the latter.
[13:36] <davidbarth> ScottK: starting from a new session each morning
[13:37] <davidbarth> it may be that the patch doesn't use the latest namespace which was renamed from WindowMenu.Registrar to AppMenu.Registrar
[13:37] <Riddell> ScottK: sorry about that, bug during upgrading software
[13:37] <davidbarth> ie, org.ayatana....
[13:37] <davidbarth> on dbus
[13:37] <ScottK> I didn't try it from Gnome, but from Plasma Netbook it seems to work pretty well.  All KDE apps I've tried have worked and the supported gtk apps have worked.
[13:37] <ScottK> Riddell: Meh.  OK.
[13:38] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) cleanups and appname changes
[13:38]  * ScottK has seen the thread on adding more stuff to p.k.o and thought that might be a bit much.
[13:38] <davidbarth> in kde, the namespace must be consistent, whereas across desktops, diverging sources don't have the same versions and the namespace issue kicks in
[13:38] <ScottK> davidbarth: When did the namespace change?
[13:39] <davidbarth> in prague i think, so ~3 weeks ago
[13:39]  * ScottK checks.
[13:39] <davidbarth> i'm almost sure agateau had updated his patch at the same time
[13:39] <Riddell> yes he did
[13:39] <ScottK> http://skitterman.wordpress.com/2010/07/09/menubar-for-gtk-and-qtkde-apps-on-kubuntu/ was before Prague, so I'll try again.
[13:40]  * ScottK doesn't immediately have the netbook handy however.
[13:40] <Riddell> davidbarth: the most recent patch I got from for qt is to fix some cross desktop issues
[13:41] <davidbarth> Riddell: should be that
[13:41] <davidbarth> Riddell: do you have a link for me to check?
[13:42] <Riddell> qt4 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu4 should include kubuntu_15_appmenu.diff patch with number 20100810
[13:42] <Riddell> launchpad confirms is does https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/qt4-x11_4%3A4.7.0%7Ebeta2-0ubuntu3_4%3A4.7.0%7Ebeta2-0ubuntu4.diff.gz
[13:43] <Riddell> so make sure your qt is up to date I guess
[13:45] <CIA-61> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* src/ (libs/SyncDaemon.h statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp) documentation++
[13:46] <ScottK> Do we want the patch in the "[PATCH] Akonadi server passing data-dirs parameter to mysql" threat on kde-devel?
[13:47] <davidbarth> Riddell: i'm running the latest qt, 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu4, confirmed by apt-cache policy
[13:48] <davidbarth> Riddell: and the latest indicator-appmenu (with the AppMenu.Registrar namespace) as well
[13:48] <davidbarth> Riddell: so it seems it's not at the patch level, it's something for agateau to check when he returns
[13:48] <Riddell> davidbarth: yes I think so
[13:50] <davidbarth> Riddell: yup, mailed him for monday
[14:07] <CIA-61> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1163181 * trunk/kdereview/libqapt/src/backend.cpp debug--
[14:12] <maco> Sput: im pretty sure its the kde version, because it works with the tray stuff
[14:13] <Sput> maco: well, it seems to work for others
[14:13] <Sput> and I can't test because I don't run ubuntu
[14:17] <shadeslayer> 'lo
[14:18] <yofel> hey
[14:38] <ScottK> maco: Quassel works with the app menu for me.
[15:01] <dantti_work> Riddell: did you see my message about kpk?
[15:02] <Riddell> dantti_work: nope
[15:03] <Sput> maco: the tray stuff works in the pure-Qt version as well, it's using dbus
[15:03] <Sput> you could make sure by checking in the Help menu if there's an "About KDE" or an "About Qt"
[15:03] <dantti_work> Riddell: I won't change strings and UI, it's usable now, but still have some bugs to fix, if you package the svn version now then later we just update it
[15:04] <Riddell> dantti_work: groovy
[15:05] <Riddell> let me do that
[15:05] <dantti_work> Riddell: I fixed in this version one crash that end up in tons of bug reports but now i found another bug which at least don't crash :P
[15:07] <dantti_work> Riddell: ah and there is DEBCONF_SUPPORT=ON, which does not work yet (not sure why)
[15:13] <oxymoron> Where do I find rekonq 0.5?
[15:21] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: err... for lucid?
[15:21] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Yes? :P Sorry if I bother with same question but I cannot found it on ppa yet?
[15:22] <shadeslayer> my bad actually... remind me on sunday
[15:25] <Riddell> dantti_work: when installing I get the "Additional changes are required" dialogue but it does the download and install anyway behind it
[15:25] <Riddell> which is fine since I never did see the need for that dialogue :)
[15:26] <dantti_work> Riddell: hehe, yup I have just spoted and fixed this problem
[15:26] <Riddell> dantti_work: clicking on a category doesn't seem to do anything, I get all the packages listed whatever I click on
[15:27] <dantti_work> Riddell: I'm going to add a checkbox to Don't show this dialog when additional or updates are required
[15:28] <dantti_work> Riddell: can you try what I have just uploaded
[15:28] <Riddell> I had to refresh our patch to stop the automatic updates, you might want to check it over for sanity http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_06_no_automatic_updates.diff
[15:28] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: No prob, but possible to release it in public ppa so its going to update from 0.4 => 0.5?
[15:28] <dantti_work> what do you mean by clicking on a category
[15:29] <Riddell> I mean "Groups" the first thing you see on startup
[15:30] <dantti_work> really? it works here
[15:30] <Riddell> dantti_work: "can you try what I have just uploaded" I don't see any recent commits in svn
[15:30] <Riddell> oh, I'm using anonsvn
[15:30] <dantti_work> r1163213
[15:31] <dantti_work> Riddell: are you using aptcc? I never had a problem on clicking in groups
[15:36] <dantti_work> Riddell: yup that patch will prevent auto_updates, I should probably add some build option for that
[15:36] <Riddell> dantti_work: current svn seems to fix the issue of installing while showing the "Additional changes are required" dialogue
[15:36] <Riddell> groups don't work though
[15:37] <dantti_work> but that doesn't prevent automatic refreshing cache which I don't know if you want to disable
[15:37] <Riddell> I am using packagekit-backend-aptcc: 0.6.7-0ubuntu1
[15:37] <dantti_work> does it emit any kind of error?
[15:38] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ZbNAGKuw
[15:39] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: yep.. but it wont be a official ppa
[15:39] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Why not? :S Isnt Rekonq the new default one? :S
[15:40] <shadeslayer> when did quassel change its icon color 0_o
[15:40] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: nope
[15:40] <shadeslayer> its been revoked for now i think
[15:41] <shadeslayer> Riddell: any luck on kdenetwork?
[15:41] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: What? :S SO Konqueror is still default? :S
[15:41] <shadeslayer> i do believe so...
[15:42] <shadeslayer> it was revoked since rekonq 0.5 was quite crashy till kde rc
[15:42] <Riddell> dantti_work: anyway I'll upload this, groups issue is a bug, as long as the feature is in we're all good :)
[15:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I did manage to recreate the issue
[15:42] <dantti_work> Riddell: is this text good "Do not show this confirmation when installing or updating additional packages"
[15:43] <shadeslayer> oh goody
[15:43] <Riddell> dantti_work: yes
[15:45] <shadeslayer> also kdepim is ftbfs for lucid :(
[15:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kdenetwork issue goes away if I install linphone
[15:50] <Riddell> so that must bring in something else that it needs
[15:50] <shadeslayer> hmm..
[15:51] <shadeslayer> thanks for the heads up, ill look
[15:54] <Riddell> shadeslayer: libortp-dev doesn't depend on libortp8
[15:54] <Riddell> it depends on some other random library
[15:54] <Riddell> similarly libmediastreamer-dev doesn't depend on libmediastreamer0
[15:54] <Riddell> that's the problem
[15:54] <shadeslayer> bah
[15:55] <shadeslayer> i guess thats a new change
[15:56] <maco> Sput: i'll double-check when i get home
[15:59] <Sput> maco: thanks.
[16:03] <shadeslayer> anyone know which git repo i  should clone for qt webkit?
[16:14] <ScottK> Riddell: Do you have the release meeting covered?
[16:16] <Riddell> ScottK: yes should do
[16:17] <ScottK> OK.  Good.
[16:17] <Riddell> KDE 4.5 up, ubiquity needing changes (which I'm working on), anything else I should add?
[16:17] <Riddell> kdebindings still needing arm love
[16:17] <ScottK> If the appmenu issue confirmed/worth mentioning?
[16:18] <Riddell> I wouldn't think so, it's  bug and we've only just started the bug fixing part of the cycle
[16:18] <ScottK> If/Is
[16:18] <ScottK> OK
[16:19] <ScottK> You might forshadow a coming FFe for the new Kolab pim package.
[16:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: and the kdenetwork package
[16:21] <shadeslayer> ( needs a FFe when i fix it )
[16:42] <ScottK> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus needs some updating too.
[16:49] <shadeslayer> brr... anyone know the bug number of the kopete google talk bug?
[16:50] <ScottK> Riddell: Coffee break or WC?
[16:50] <ScottK> ;-)
[16:51] <shadeslayer> bah.. found it
[16:51] <Riddell> ScottK: coding ubiquity!
[16:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: with regards to rekonq favicon problem, adjam will introduce new functions to headers to have a seprate cache for icons, they should work after then since QWebSettings is broken while storing these icons
[16:57] <Riddell> yay
 [ACTION] dyfet to solve all ScottK's problems :)   <-- hehe
[17:06] <ScottK> :-)
[17:35] <shadeslayer> hmm... something is wrong... i cant open files with OOo
[17:50]  * ScottK reads http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libqapt0 and then looks for JontheEchidna.
[17:55] <ScottK> Riddell: We should consider making a fully split seed for -mobile that doesn't need anything from bindings or higher in the stack so they can at least have something this cycle.
[17:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you were right about kdenetwork .. it did cross my mind that libortp8 might be needed, but then thought that the devel package would have pulled it in, so didnt check
[17:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes it's a bug in the linphone packaging
[17:57] <Riddell> ScottK: yes
[17:58] <shadeslayer> so contact debian people ?
[18:00] <lelamal> Hi all, I reported a bug against konqueror with webkit, and I've been told "It seems to be a distro problem. If you can poke whomever is responsible to update the kwebkitpart package from extragear that would be great. They should use the latest version for KDE >= 4.4."
[18:00] <lelamal> does anyone know how to do that?
[18:01] <shadeslayer> lelamal: which bug?
[18:01] <shadeslayer> if you could give us the URL
[18:01] <lelamal> shadeslayer: sure, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247541
[18:02] <ScottK> What are we supposed to use instead of libqt4-webkit-dev again?
[18:03] <lelamal> it seems there's a problem with proper numbering, where v. 1.0.0 would be older than 0.9.something
[18:03] <lelamal> the latter being the one kubuntu should use, they say
[18:03] <debfx> ScottK: libqtwebkit-dev
[18:04] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks.
[18:05] <shadeslayer> \o/
[18:06] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ready to upload kdenetwork for me?
[18:06] <Riddell> shadeslayer: surely it's linphone that needs uploaded first?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> yes, ive sent a mail to debian people
[18:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: we should just fix it in ubuntu for now
[18:07] <shadeslayer> for the mean time ive added the deps separately .... so we can either wait for them, or fix in ubuntu
[18:07] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:07] <shadeslayer> ill fix that first
[18:08] <Riddell> better to do a correct fix than a messy one
[18:09] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:11] <shadeslayer> aha!
[18:11] <shadeslayer> lelamal: ok ill ask for new upload of webkit on sunday :) .. i hate breaking FFe
[18:12] <lelamal> Ok, glad I found the right people finally =). Many thanks!
[18:13] <ScottK> lelamal: Are you on 10.04 or Maverick?
[18:13] <lelamal> ScottK: 10.04
[18:13] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ^^^ your update won't help him.
[18:14] <ScottK> We'd need to do an SRU.
[18:14] <shadeslayer> whai?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> ohhh
[18:14] <shadeslayer> then that will have to wait
[18:14] <shadeslayer> i need to get it into mav first..
[18:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer: If a user asks for something you need to check what release they care about.
[18:15] <shadeslayer> sorry... skipped my mind :(
[18:16] <ScottK> No problem.  Just remember for next time.
[18:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: btw we still have to upload to mav first, i think thats the procedure right?
[18:16] <shadeslayer> mav update -> lucid SRU
[18:16] <ScottK> Yes.  That's correct.
[18:16] <ScottK> And the SRU would have to be something smaller than an entire new release.
[18:17] <shadeslayer> yeah..
[18:17] <ScottK> It would need to be a patch focused on the actual problem.
[18:17] <shadeslayer> oh i remember...
[18:17] <shadeslayer> see the debian webkit part mailed me that  there were no specific chages to the package
[18:17] <shadeslayer> apart from a few library so version bumps
[18:19] <shadeslayer> hmm.. and yet our packaging version is higher...
[18:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/Qg8q8atd <<
[18:23] <debfx> our webkitkde version is lower, 0.9~svn1127626-0ubuntu2 < 0.9.6svn1158036-2
[18:23] <shadeslayer> meh ..spaces
[18:23] <shadeslayer> debfx: which means i need glasses
[18:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: debdiff more useful to me
[18:25] <shadeslayer> yeah, will post once it builds fine
[18:35] <CIA-61> [trunk] Jonathan Thomas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>*<EMAIL_ADDRESS>* debian/changelog Rebuild for libqapt0 -> libqapt1 transition
[18:35] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: ^
[18:37] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://pastebin.com/FG1iDF8k
[18:42] <Riddell> groovy
[18:44] <shadeslayer> then kdenetwork can go in with the debdiff i posted before
[18:44] <Riddell> uploaded
[18:44] <Riddell> where's that?
[18:44] <shadeslayer> awesome :D
[18:44] <Riddell> got it
[18:44] <shadeslayer> ah :D
[18:44] <shadeslayer> was about to paste a new one :)
[18:49] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kdelibs import could take weeks
[18:50] <shadeslayer> it switches to other imports after every 1k fetches :P
[18:52] <yofel> shadeslayer: actually no, it continues with the next 1000 after that, but the import will fail if another kde import is being done already on the same import machine :/
[18:52] <shadeslayer> whut? :O
[18:52] <shadeslayer> so if there are 2 imports on pear, they both fail ?
[18:52] <shadeslayer> yofel: poke jelmer with this on #launchpad
[18:52] <yofel> no, one fails, as the first one locks the sql db where it seems to store the rev data in
[18:53] <shadeslayer> ohh
[18:53] <shadeslayer> still... poke jelmer ;)
[18:53] <yofel> shadeslayer: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/53640313/vcs-imports-kdelibs-kde4.log
[18:53] <shadeslayer> bah
[18:54] <yofel> oddly enough kdebase didn't fail even once yet..
[18:59] <shadeslayer> whoa : E: Unable to locate package libmediastreamer-dev
[19:03] <shadeslayer> hey kronos
[19:07] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: It seems that Adept Installer was using some libept .desktop file class which no longer is around in libept1 :(
[19:08] <JontheEchidna> (which I assume is why mornfall put an embedded copy of libept in adept in one of his more recent adept uploads)
[19:09] <Riddell> I'm sure it was using a KDE class
[19:09] <Riddell> it had an overly generic name I think but it created the tree of info from the .desktop files
[19:09] <Riddell> might be worth just asking mornfall
[19:10] <JontheEchidna> http://pastebin.com/iudjTHuT <- the class
[19:13]  * Riddell out
[19:14] <maco> Riddell: bye bye
[19:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: whee... kdepimlibs is done
[19:21] <shadeslayer> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~neon/kdepimlibs/trunk
[19:25] <yofel> yay, actually I think I've almost got kdelibs packaging working, now it complained abou the dbg package ^^
[19:27] <shadeslayer> :)
[19:30] <shadeslayer> yofel: go go! might look into neon on sunday
[19:31] <shadeslayer> or tommrow
[20:28] <ScottK> Do the qt4-x11 packages in the beta PPA for Lucid have the appmenu patches?
[22:12] <JontheEchidna> Could an archive admin push muon through binary new please?
[22:13] <JontheEchidna> oh, it has been. nevermind :)
[22:14] <JontheEchidna> fwiw, armel still needs accepting, but that's not really a huge priority
[22:14] <dantti> someone knows why qt assistant from qt7 has a so ulgy layout
[23:29] <Tm_T> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-help_4%3a4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu3~lucid1~ppa4_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/qt4/translations/qt_help_cs.qm', which is also in package libqtcore4 4:4.6.3-0ubuntu1
[23:30] <Tm_T> I hope no regular users have that kind of errors


[01:13] <jbailey> doko: Apparnetly Michael Koch finally got through NM last night!
[01:16] <doko> heh, nice
[01:17] <doko> jbailey: btw, lib32asound2 should be in the archive soon, it's enough to build libgcj7, don't know if you need the plugins as well
[01:18] <jbailey> Oh, yay!


[13:54] <bac> Makyo: ping
[14:59] <bac> hi Makyo
[15:00] <bac> Makyo: i tried QA on your branch but i get a failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/6629590/  -- have you seen this before?
[15:08] <bac> Makyo: i discovered i had a super-old version of virtual box installed.  perhaps your doc should mention the version supported.
[15:55] <Makyo> bac, Yes, sorry.  I'll include that.
[15:56] <bac> Makyo: when i tried to bring up the vagrant box a second time i got warnings about version mismatch between VirtualBox and "Guest Additions".  The latter recommends VirtualBox 4.2.10.
[15:57] <bac> Makyo: and directory sharing is now broken.
[15:57] <Makyo> bac, hmm. The box I selected doesn't have guest additions installed; can you vagrant destroy && vagrant up?
[15:58] <bac> sure
[15:58] <Makyo> The directory sharing is totally broken in saucy/trusty, thus raring.  It will be broken if network ever failed.
[15:59] <bac> Makyo: oh, cool, i don't have to download the base box again.  i thought 'destroy' might wipe it out.
[16:01] <bac> Makyo: yeah, i got this again http://paste.ubuntu.com/6629846/
[16:01] <Makyo> bac, yeah, it clones the base image. when bringing a box up,
[16:01] <bac> still coming up so i don't know if shared directories are there.  i suspect no.
[16:02] <Makyo> Yeah, hm.
[16:03] <Makyo> What os is the host?
[16:10] <bac> Makyo: i think i was just wrong.  i was expecting the src to be in /home/vagrant but it is in /vagrant
[16:10] <Makyo> bac, Oh, yeah, sorry, should include that, too.
[16:11] <bac> Makyo: you may have and i just forgot second time around
[16:11] <bac> Makyo: but 'make test-debug' fails badly
[16:12] <Makyo> bac, Oh yeah, hmm.  Maybe I need firefox.  Needed that for my previous vm.
[16:15] <bac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6629896/
[16:15] <Makyo> Sure enough.  sudo apt-get install firefox will fix it.  Will add that to the provisioning script.
[16:15] <bac> Makyo: i'm going to get lunch right now.  can continue working with you on it afterwards.
[16:15] <Makyo> bac, sure, np
[18:46] <hatch> Ahoy!
[21:06] <bac> hey Makyo i'm taking off
[21:06] <bac> hope you have a nice holiday
[21:06] <Makyo> You too!


[00:00] <wxl> similarly, you find version changes in control
[00:02] <wxl> finally in README.md there's an additional bit about there being debian packages
[00:02] <wxl> so tl;dr keep the new stuff, get rid of the old stuff, remove all the markers
[00:03] <wxl> once that's done, you just treat it as a normal change with an entry like "Merge from Debian unstable"
[00:04] <wxl> do check if that ubuntu1 patch needs to be kept, though. we might end up ditching that. if not, make note of the fact that it's remaining
[00:04] <wxl> you can see an example of a merge changelog entry here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T70#1224
[00:07] <wxl> then just build the source paackage and i can take care of uploading
 Figure it out wxl?
[01:22] <wxl[m]> Well enough @tsimonq2
 Ok
[15:00] <mozmck> How are the *buntu livecd ISOs made?  Are there scripts or is this still basically the method: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[15:05] <teward> mozmck: i beleive there's automated builders, but I couldn't begin to tell you how all that works.  Customizing the LIveCD would be respinning the LIveCD for your needs.
[15:05] <teward> and that can be glitchy sometimes
[15:05] <mozmck> Yes, I'm trying to do that and I've done it several years back using the method from that website.
[15:06] <mozmck> I figured there was something a little better by now?  I think debian has some live builder scripts or something.
[15:13] <teward> not for *respins*
[15:13] <teward> or custom ISOs
[15:13] <teward> if you want custom ISOs that's really the only rebuild mechanism
[15:16] <mozmck> Hmm, well what I'm basically doing is a derivative distro for custom use.  Right now I install xubuntu and run my script which strips out stuff and installs a realtime kernel and such.  I'd like to build an ISO to make it simpler for the initial install.
[15:17] <mozmck> I know this is not lubuntu specific - sorry.  I installed lubuntu 19.04 to try out the LXQT desktop and I like it so far!
 @mozmck [<mozmck> Hmm, well what I'm basically doing is a derivative distro for custom us …], that sound more like ubuntu studio to me @Eickmeyer
 @HMollerCl [that sound more like ubuntu studio to me @Eickmeyer], Not true. Ubuntu Studio is custom of Ubuntu the same way Lubuntu is.
[15:31] <mozmck> Yeah.  This one is for cnc machines running linuxcnc.
[15:32] <Eickmeyer> Completely different use case then.
 ok, but I thought you where making more customization con RT kernel q
[15:34] <Eickmeyer> !rt | @HMollerCl
 right, I forgot that, lowlatency is more than just the kernel
[15:36] <mozmck> Yeah, I'm using the preempt-rt patch and modifying kernel configs for best latency (hopefully!)
 I once just this tips, might be usefull https://bitbucket.org/thismaechler/ubuntustudio-16.04-realtimeaudio/
 don't use it as it is, but it can be use as inspiration.
[15:38] <mozmck> thanks!  It seems hard to find all the things that affect latency (while still keeping the kernel generic), and it changes with new kernel releases.


[10:31] <wagafo> Bug 862129 seems to be "Fix Released". Bug 877852 seems to be a long list of duplicates of the previous bug, which cannot be duped because of a Launchpad bug, maybe it can also be marked as Fix Released. Same thing for bug 878122. There seems to be some other potential duplicates marked as new, confirmed or incomplete.
[10:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 862129 in update-inetd (Debian) (and 11 other projects) "samba postrm depends on packages not guaranteed to be configured (affects: 76) (dups: 75) (heat: 543)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/862129
[10:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 877852 in samba (Ubuntu) "samba failed to install when updating from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 (affects: 63) (dups: 61) (heat: 501)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877852
[10:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878122 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade duing upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 (affects: 6) (dups: 4) (heat: 42)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878122
[10:59] <sagaci> I just reported -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/905260 ... would be a good one to pass around for someone who wants to fix their first bug :)
[10:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 905260 in banshee (Ubuntu) "typo located ../src/Extensions/Banshee.OpticalDisc/Banshee.OpticalDisc.Dvd/DvdService.cs:92 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[11:08] <Snicksie> sagaci, I can fix it, but I'm not sure if someone else would like to do this bug because it's a perfect 'first-bug-fix'-bug
[11:08] <Snicksie> I'm also a beginner at fixing bugs though
[11:30] <sagaci> Snicksie: well there's always this one too, needs filing and fixing -- https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/libgda4/+pots/libgda-4.0/en_AU/714/+translate
[11:30]  * Snicksie takes a look :)
[11:31] <Snicksie> i see :)
[11:32] <sagaci> and also https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gdb/+pots/gdb/en_AU/1379/+translate
[15:34] <bil21al> test
[15:37] <om26er> 10secs
[15:38] <bil21al> omg har guja
[15:54] <davmor2> hey guys is there an apport/ubuntu-bug hook for wifi?
[15:56] <hggdh> davmor2: network-manager?
[15:57] <davmor2> hggdh: could be I just wondered if there was one specific or not I'll go with that :)  thanks
[15:57] <hggdh> davmor2: most of the times you can also use linux itself, if the driver is provided by the kernel
[15:59] <davmor2> hggdh: it's the fact that it isn't that I'm trying to report :)  USB2 RAlink wireless N dongle worked fine in Oneiric and natty but not at all in precise
[16:01] <hggdh> davmor2: ah. Well, might be in some places, but still the kernel sounds a nice try -- mostly if it is not being recognised
[16:06] <hggdh> gah. My old laptop, running Oneiric, had the wireless vanishing
[16:08] <ogra_> thats what you get by not running dev releases :P
[16:17] <bil21al> have any body else see the problem with launchpad that we cant see the next page of our  bug list
[16:17] <bil21al> ?
[16:39] <bil21al> seb128:
[16:39] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-butterfly/+bug/902850
[16:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 902850 in telepathy-butterfly (Ubuntu) "can't sign into msn with some email domains (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:39] <bil21al> have a look please and set it
[16:39] <seb128> bil21al, can you ping kenvandine on #ubuntu-desktop about telepathy,empathy issues rather?
[16:39] <seb128> he's the maintainer
[16:40] <bil21al> ohh ok
[16:40] <bil21al> but it not his issue  i think we can handle it the reporter changing status to confirm by him self
[17:08] <hggdh> bil21al: confirming a bug must be done by someone else, not the original reporter
[18:12] <CarlFK> my wxPython worked in 10.10 and then code developed a bug in 11.x and a precise daily I tried.
[18:13] <CarlFK> I am trying to figure out how/where to post it so that it has a chance of being looked at
[18:13] <CarlFK> the app runs shell commands, like "ping" (my simple test command.)  it fails if the command is ssh
[18:14] <CarlFK> it used to work, a wxPython dev said "works for me, doesnt look like a wx bug"
[18:17] <CarlFK> what can I do to a 11.10 box to revert it's gui stuff back to 10.10?
[18:18] <CarlFK> or how can I update a 10.10 box one package at a time to 11.04 to see when my app breaks
[20:07] <JanC> CarlFK: is the bug in your code or in wxWindows or in wxPython?
[20:07] <JanC> you could try to find a minimal piece of code with the same bug...
[20:07] <CarlFK> JanC: well, it all worked as expected in 10.10.
[20:08] <CarlFK> my code didn't change, wxPython dev (who is probably on top of wx dev) didn't think it was a wx problem
[20:09] <JanC> there could be 10000s of reasons why it works in 1 version and not in the next  ;)
[20:09] <CarlFK> yeah...
[20:10] <CarlFK> https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/master/dvs-mon.py
[20:10] <CarlFK> that's the whole app
[20:11] <JanC> and what goes wrong?  ;)
[20:11] <CarlFK> I have done the "remove all un needed code to repo bug" dance with it for something else
[20:11] <CarlFK> very shot answer: the gui stops refreshing
[20:11] <CarlFK> https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/master/dvs-mon.py#L227
[20:12] <CarlFK>         COMMANDS=[ ... 'ping localhost', 'ssh localhost ping localhost', ]
[20:12] <CarlFK> keys setup so that no login is needed
[20:13] <CarlFK> ping localhost works, and while it is running, I can resize the window, and the wx controls all resize
[20:13] <CarlFK> ssh... worked in 10.10, in 11.04, I can resize the window, but none of the controls resize.
[20:14] <CarlFK> kill the ssh process, it comes back to life
[20:14] <JanC> right
[20:15] <CarlFK> I am using wx's process management api... https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/master/dvs-mon.py#L148
[20:15] <CarlFK> wx.Execute(self.cmd...
[20:15] <CarlFK> if I swap that for python's process, it works
[20:15] <CarlFK> so not a problem with ssh
[20:15] <JanC> hm, why not use Python's ?
[20:16] <JanC> Python's process management, I mean?
[20:16] <CarlFK> I am working on it, but I also need to poll for stdout/err, and that isn't as easy as hopped.
[20:17] <CarlFK> plus I have come this far in identifying a bug... seems sane try and report it
[20:18] <JanC> I'm not sure it's a bug per sé, there might have changed something in console I/O caching or whatever
[20:18] <CarlFK> well, it works with ping...
[20:19] <JanC> CarlFK: and reading stdin/stdout should be easy enough with Python's subprocess module?
[20:19] <CarlFK> https://github.com/CarlFK/dvsmon/blob/broken/dvs-mon.py
[20:19] <CarlFK> that's as far as I got :)
[20:22] <JanC> CarlFK: that doesn't freeze at least  ;)
[20:22] <CarlFK> swell
[20:22] <JanC> freeze the UI
[20:22] <CarlFK> so the app replaces a bunch of terminal windows with long running commands being monitored
[20:23] <CarlFK> very simialar to ping - tehy pop out stdout/err every so often.
[20:50] <hjd> Bug 902597 is a duplicate of bug 843734. However, since they are different packages, if I simply mark it as such other users will probably not find it. I wonder if the best might be to mark it as a duplicate, then add the other packages as affected projects in the other bug report?
[20:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 902597 in opennebula (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "opennebula-sunstone requested an impossible situation... apt-get (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902597
[20:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 843734 in ruby-sinatra (Ubuntu) "dependency problem, does not install (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 23)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/843734
[21:00] <CarlFK> JanC: oh yeah - the problem is managing multiple long running commands that are not outputting consistently
[21:01] <roadmr> hjd: hm what about just moving the opennebula report to sinatra? that's the one with the actual problem
[21:02] <roadmr> hjd: i.e. the opennebula package did nothing wrong and needs no changes at all
[21:03] <CarlFK> JanC:  so one command may be outputting every 10 seconds, a 2nd only every 5 min.
[21:04] <CarlFK> currently the 5min one blocks and I don't see the other apps output
[21:04] <CarlFK> I am sure it can be done, I just haven't figured out how.
[21:04] <CarlFK> and my wx app works in 10.10 so putting effort into using new stuff is making me grumpy
[21:05] <CarlFK> plus I am pretty sure there is a bug, so might was well get it reported.
[21:10] <hjd> roadmr: hm, well I thought about marking the opennebula one as a duplicate since I think the sinatra one contains more information. After all, it only needs one report. I just try to make it easier for others to find so that they don't post new duplicates :)
[21:10] <roadmr> hjd: yes, I understand the motivation - the natural thing to do would be to set the opennebula one to duplicate
[21:10] <roadmr> hjd: but as you say then it becomes invisible :)
[21:12] <hjd> roadmr: Exactly.
[21:12] <hjd> And I might be missing something, but I don
[21:12] <hjd> 't see how moving the opennebula one to sinatra would help. Because then sinatra will have two reports describing the same bug. Could you elaborate?
[21:13] <roadmr> hjd: yes, I was on crack :) I was just trying to keep both reports alive so that information is findable
[21:14] <roadmr> hjd: but it really makes no sense  :) I'd say make the opennebula one a duplicate of the sinatra one
[21:15] <hjd> so what about my original suggestion, adding opennebula/rack as affected projects to the non-duplicate one?
[21:15] <roadmr> hjd: neither one was filed using apport-bug so there was really very little chance of catching the duplicate
[21:16] <roadmr> hjd: hmm adding them as affected projects adds a "task" to the other project too, but I don't think anything needs to be done in opennebula
[21:17] <roadmr> hjd: ruby-rack appears to be completely gone, so what needs to be done is fixing the packaging in sinatra - at which point opennebula will magically start working again
[21:18] <hjd> roadmr: if you see the latest comment on the sinatra bug, someone has filed a backport request to get rack into Oneiric.
[21:18] <hjd> roadmr: but ok, I'm simply gonna mark it as a duplicate. Thanks :)
[21:18] <roadmr> hjd: yes, well I have no idea why it's gone from Oneiric heh
[21:19] <roadmr> hjd: np, if more dupes come in we'll just triage them :) and hope rack gets backported soon
[21:19] <micahg> roadmr: hjd: not gone, the package was renamed, and the backport probably won't go through since the fix should be SRUd
[21:19] <roadmr> micahg: oh! what was it renamed to?
[21:19] <micahg> roadmr: ruby-rack is the rename
[21:19] <roadmr> micahg: so then what needs to be done is fix ruby-sinatra to depend on the new package?
[21:20] <micahg> no, the rename is in precise
[21:20] <micahg> so, ruby-sinatra should be changed in oneiric to use the old ruby package
[21:20] <micahg> ruby-rack
[21:21] <roadmr> micahg: oh... ruby-rack does not exist in oneiric :( that's why oneiric's ruby-sinatra fails to install
[21:22] <micahg> right :)
[21:22] <micahg> so, whatever it used to be called should be there though
[21:22] <roadmr> micahg: ah, found it, librack-ruby
[21:23] <roadmr> micahg: ya, I was getting confused :) but it's all clear now


[00:00] <sarnold> jordanrandles: are there any errors or warnings logged in any log files that look relevant?
[00:02] <jordanrandles> sarnold: I wouldnt know, I dont have access to the log files. The server computer is in my server room but it wont let me input anything using a keyboard as if the USBs are not working but they are fine. Its ever since I 'tried' setting up openvpn
[00:12] <jordanrandles> Its not taking any input from the keyboard
[00:23] <jordanrandles> it seems like the server only does this using Linux 3.16
[00:24] <jordanrandles> But I just booted using Linux 3.13 and it works fine. Is there any way to make the server always boot into this version?
[00:26] <sarnold> you could edit your grub menu to only include the 3.13 kernel, or uninstall the 3.16 kernels..
[00:27] <sarnold> but more likely that's just a symptom of something else that didn't work, perhaps the initrd images weren't properly created for the 3.16 kernels..
[00:28] <jordanrandles> So what do I do to fix this?
[00:28] <jordanrandles> Or find out if that is the problem?
[02:21] <jvwjgames> No internet from my server need help
[02:21] <jvwjgames> I had to go earlier and was not able to fix the issue
[02:23] <sarnold> jvwjgames: start with the basics: make sure ethernet wires are fully seated, not wrapped around flourescant ballasts, etc.; make sure everything in the path is properly plugged in; check dmesg and log files for errors
[02:23] <sarnold> jvwjgames: make sure you've got good link light from both NICs; replace endpoints if you need to
[02:24] <sarnold> jvwjgames: check ip addr show and ip route show output on both hosts, make sure they make sense
[02:24] <jvwjgames> Whenever I ping or traceroute I get interface IP as reply regardless of what the destination is
[02:24] <sarnold> jvwjgames: start with simple protocols, ping to IPs, then nc to tcp and udp ports; if those work but larger packets don't work, maybe pmtu settings are broken?
[02:25] <jvwjgames> See my post above ^^
[02:27] <TJ-> jvwjgames: is the IP address assigned by DHCP, or manually set?
[02:27] <jvwjgames> Manually
[02:28] <jvwjgames> And I do know it's right cause I tested it before
[02:28] <sarnold> jvwjgames: does "ip addr show" and "ip route show" look correct on both hosts?
[02:28] <TJ-> jvwjgames: can you pastebin (transfer via USB maybe) the "/etc/network/interfaces" file if that is where you've defined the interface
[02:29] <jvwjgames> Ok
[03:43] <DammitJim> I'm having issues with a domain user authenticating when I try to log on
[03:43] <DammitJim> the workstation has been joined to the domain
[03:49] <hellslinger> hi guys, does anyone know where UFW gets started in the boot process? where can I find out?
[07:04] <neurotus> i'm having problems enabling htaccess on my apache2 ubuntu 14.04
[07:06] <neurotus> i have default install and have done .htaccess and .htpasswd with a webgenerator site, it says "Forbidden" currently the dir with .htaccesss
[07:07] <neurotus> i have AllowOverride All
[07:07] <neurotus> dont have htpasswd program that many guides refer to
[07:10] <neurotus> now have htpasswd from apache2-utils
[07:14] <neurotus> did htpasswd -c /var/www/html/poly/.htpasswd poly
[07:15] <neurotus> so everything should be okay
[07:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:17] <neurotus> morning lordievader
[07:18] <neurotus> -> cig
[07:18] <lordievader> Hey neurotus
[07:19] <neurotus> lordievader: any help with apache2 .htaccess would be appreciated
[07:21] <lordievader> What are you trying to accomplish?
[07:22] <neurotus> lordievader: basic user-auth
[07:24] <lordievader> Ok, where is the directory defined?
[07:25] <lordievader> That is where I have configured the basic auth.
[07:26] <neurotus> /var/www/html/poly
[07:28] <lordievader> neurotus: That is the directory, not apache's definition of it.
[07:28] <lordievader> Those are usually somewhere in /etc/apache2/
[07:39] <neurotus> darn, now the whole /var/www/html is protected and doesnt ask for password and not only the html/poly folder
[07:41] <lordievader> How did you configure the basic auth?
[07:45] <neurotus> i get 403 FORBIDDEN and it doest not ask for a password
[07:46] <lordievader> How did you configure the basic auth?
[07:46] <neurotus> lordievader: i just put .htaccess in /var/www/html/directory and put in apache2.conf AllowOverride All
[07:46] <lordievader> So you didn't configure anything?
[07:46] <neurotus> and did .htpasswd in directory
[07:46] <Ben64> if you remove .htaccess does the folder work
[07:51] <neurotus> Ben64: nope
[07:51] <Ben64> then fix that first
[07:54] <jamespage> morning all
[07:59] <neurotus> -> away
[10:36] <neurotus> i get "Forbidden" when i try to access my apache2, have purged apache2-data and apache2 and done a clean install
[10:37] <neurotus> i'm gonna purge them again and move /var/www as it isn't empty and check /etc
[10:50] <neurotus> ok, now working, had to do something with my contents of /var/www/html
[10:52] <neurotus> as they were not removed on purge of apache2
[11:10] <neurotus> what was that package that checked after apt-get update that no processess are using old files ?
[11:12] <jamespage> coreycb, I re-merged python-pbr from experimental but I had todo it the hard way
[11:12] <jamespage> downloaded the source package directly from ftp.debian.org and did it by hand
[11:12] <jamespage> coreycb, I think we can do 'syncs' the same way
[12:27] <jamespage> coreycb, syncs might be functional again in a bit - launchpad team are working on it
[13:08] <jordan_> does anyone here use openvpn-as?
[13:09] <coreycb> jamespage, ok good thanks
[13:09] <jordan_> does anyone know if there is a way to get openvpn-as on a intel server??
[13:15] <jordan_> |
[13:21] <jamespage> coreycb, ok syncs are possible again now - ceilometerclient done :-)
[13:21] <coreycb> jamespage, \o/
[13:22] <jamespage> coreycb, I think you can sync all of the clients yourself right?
[13:22] <jamespage> they are mostly/all seeded
[13:22] <jamespage> coreycb, ping me if you hit something not right
[13:23] <coreycb> jamespage, ok going to take a pass through them now
[13:23] <jamespage> coreycb, awesome
[13:23] <jamespage> that should make the core packages for rc1 build and uploadable
[13:24] <jordan_> does anyone know if there is a way to get openvpn-as on an intel server??
[13:26] <jpds> openvpn-as?
[13:27] <jordan_> Openvpn-access server. All I can find are packages for AMD servers but I have intel servers
[13:28] <RoyK> jordan_: why don't you just use the oss openvpn?
[13:28] <RoyK> jordan_: amd64 is the architecture intel uses these days
[13:28] <jordan_> ;-; I dont know how to setup the normal openvpn package
[13:28] <RoyK> jordan_: there are lots of docs out there, and it's not hard, also openvpn is free
[13:28] <RoyK> openvpn-as is not
[13:29] <jordan_> I see, Ill try and set it up because of you
[13:29] <RoyK> :)
[13:32] <jordan_> fails with 'dh1024.pem': No such file or directory ?????
[13:36] <Pici> jordan_: what does?
[13:42] <jpds> jordan_: Did you create that file?
[13:42] <jpds> jordan_: It's part of the openvpn RSA set up process
[13:49] <samba35> i have 8 gb ram with 3 guest and 2 guest with memory ballooning but it seems it is not using bollooning
[13:49] <samba35> it is using swap file
[13:50] <samba35> on kvm 14.04.3
[14:01] <jamespage> coreycb, problem with pysaml2?
[14:02] <coreycb> jamespage, yeah, haven't gotten back to it today but for some reason tests seemed to be running code in the .pc/ dir
[14:03] <RoyK> samba35: how much memory have you given those guests?
[14:03] <patdk-wk> 64kb
[14:03] <samba35> 2 gb and 2gb allocated with 1 gb ballon
[14:04] <jamespage> coreycb, is that required for keystoneclient?
[14:04] <coreycb> jamespage, yes
[14:05] <samba35> 64kb is suppose to be use ?
[14:05] <samba35> patdk-wk: ?
[14:05] <jamespage> coreycb, are we sure?
[14:05] <coreycb> jamespage, checking
[14:05] <jamespage> coreycb, i can't see it in either requirements or test-requirements
[14:05] <jamespage> coreycb, zigo had this wrong before
[14:06] <jamespage> in the packaging that is
[14:06] <coreycb> jamespage, ok yeah let me drop it and try building
[14:06] <jamespage> coreycb, zigo also added memcached - I lack context for why that's been added
[14:07] <patdk-wk> well, if your using cp/m or an apple][, sure
[14:07] <RoyK> samba35: he's probably just trolling as usual ;)
[14:08] <patdk-wk> :)
[14:08] <coreycb> jamespage, they both get hits when grepping the code
[14:10] <jamespage> coreycb, really?
[14:10]  * jamespage looks again
[14:10] <coreycb> jamespage, I think memcache is optional for tests
[14:11] <jamespage> coreycb, I really cant see any evidence of requirement for those two deps in keystoneclient
[14:11] <jamespage> keystone - yes - client -no
[14:11] <coreycb> jamespage, I don't think saml2 is needed, the only import of saml2 happens to be a keystoneclient file named saml2
[14:12] <jamespage> yes
[14:12] <coreycb> jamespage, I'm dropping them and rebuilding
[14:12] <jamespage> ok
[14:14] <jamespage> smb, is the dpdk in the NEW queue exactly the same as in your PPA?
[14:15] <smb> jamespage, It should be, though I forgot whether arges has not made some minimal changes like removing comments about fixme
[14:16] <jamespage> smb, I really need that into the archive
[14:16] <jamespage> I have todo the ovs bits as well
[14:16] <jamespage> and I'm running out of time window
[14:16] <smb> jamespage, we need some aa or are you one?
[14:24] <gQuigs> is there a chance to do a a 2.22 -> 2.23 bump for python-novaclient https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/1499510?
[14:24] <gQuigs> or should I just do a request for the specific fix I need?
[14:25] <gQuigs> btw, do I want to get it into vivid first, and then it get's synced to CloudArchive?
[14:35] <smb> jamespage, ok so its not identical to the ppa but to what is in the lp git tree (ubuntu-wily branch)
[14:36] <smb> jamespage, beside the fixme there is one relevant change to call dh_install in binary indep which causes the examples to be packaged
[14:53] <mnaser> Would anyone know why a md raid-10 array have this type of io pattern? http://paste2.org/YDLGaLJW
[14:57] <RoyK> mnaser: what's in /proc/mdstat?
[14:58] <mnaser> RoyK: http://paste2.org/La4aHdHm
[14:58] <RoyK> mnaser: no idea - perhaps there's only a little space used and all that is on the first four drives?
[14:59] <RoyK> (first two mirrors=
[14:59] <RoyK> (first two mirrors)
[15:00] <mnaser> RoyK: it's a fresh new server so yes, but shouldn't reads come from all stripes?
[15:00] <RoyK> mnaser: perhaps better to ask on #linux-raid
[15:00] <RoyK> mnaser: I've never used r10 with md
[15:01] <mnaser> RoyK: thanks, i'll have a poke there
[15:58] <jamespage> coreycb, as I tagged keystone, I uploaded just now
[15:59] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[15:59] <jamespage> coreycb, heat versioning can be fixed up and re-uploaded as we got the broken one dropped from proposed
[15:59] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[15:59] <coreycb> jamespage, keystoneclient py3 tests are not happy, 40 failures
[16:00] <coreycb> jamespage, most of the other clients are in good shape now though
[16:00] <jamespage> coreycb, ack
[16:09] <jamespage> coreycb, that should unblock alot of core package uploads - test everything via PPA first and then shove them in the queue for release team to review
[16:13] <coreycb> jamespage, ok. I'm testing in here btw: https://launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/+archive/ubuntu/wily
[16:14] <jamespage> coreycb, awesome
[18:40] <nch> hello, I moved the content of / of my mdadm raid lvm volume to a new hard drive partition and installed grub manually on the new hard drive, the system is running but I cant start several services and when I try to use tab for autocompletion in directory navigation it tells me: -bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Permission denied
[18:41] <nch> what is wrong here? The syslog file is also clear :\
[18:42] <sarnold> nch: feels like you might have incorrect permissions on a directory somewhere
[18:42] <sarnold> nch: /tmp feels quite likely; try ls -ld /tmp
[18:42] <nch> sarnold: it gives me that: "drwxr-xr-t 5 1777 root 4096 Sep 25 20:40 tmp"
[18:43] <sarnold> aha, that's probably it ;)
[18:43] <sarnold> nch: chown 0:0 /tmp ;  chmod 1777 /tmp  ; check it again
[18:45] <nch> now it gives me that: drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 Sep 25 20:45 tmp
[18:46] <nch> but it is still not working
[18:46] <nch> sarnold: any other idea why syslog gets no entries and my apps are not starting due to permission errors I guess?
[18:47] <sarnold> nch: hmm, you may have more permissions problems; I was hoping that'd be the only one
[18:48] <sarnold> I don't know off-hand any way to automate looking for them on ubuntu system
[18:48] <nch> sanold: but why? I just copied the whole content of / with cp :\
[18:49] <sarnold> nch: cp doesn't copy permissions and owner and group information unless you request it specifically with e.g. cp -a or fiddle with --preserve ...
[18:49] <nch> well shit -.-
[18:49] <sarnold> nch: if you copied a whole system withuot cp -a you may find it easier to start over
[18:50] <nch> Ok now I dont have the original / is there any way to change the permissions for the whole system?
[18:50] <sarnold> nch: another possibility is to fix errors one at a time until you get a point tha tyou can run apt-get install --reinstall ... on every package on the system
[18:52] <nch> sarnold: well shit
[18:52] <sarnold> nch: that sounds like a pretty fair summary of the situation :)
[18:53] <nch> sarnold: well yes, I have no plan what to do now :\
[18:53] <sarnold> nch: I'm actually surprised it booted far enough for you to get to a shell that lets you solve problems. it could be worse.
[18:54] <sarnold> nch: but there's no denyuing that fixing this will be painful.
[18:54] <nch> sarnold: yes the boot was no problem, also samba and its network shares are working fine but the rest not^^
[18:55] <sarnold> nch: check ls -ld output for a huge number of directories; /etc /etc/init* /etc/rc* /bin /usr/bin/ /sbin/ /usr/sbin/ etc etc..
[18:56] <nch> nch@media:/$ ls -ld /etc drwxr-xr-x 112 root root 4096 Sep 25 20:03 /etc
[18:56] <nch> nch@media:/$ ls -ld /bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 25 04:45 /bin
[18:56] <nch> sarnold: well that looks good so far
[20:14] <Slugs_> I’m trying to setup a raid using mdadm ( i don’t have dmraid installed) and i have created 4 partitions using fdisk.  When i try to create the array i get …..
[20:14] <Slugs_> openstack@openstack:~$ sudo mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=stripe --raid-devices=4 /dev/sd[abcd]1
[20:14] <Slugs_> mdadm: super1.x cannot open /dev/sda1: Device or resource busy
[20:14] <Slugs_> mdadm: ddf: Cannot use /dev/sda1: Device or resource busy
[20:14] <Slugs_> mdadm: Cannot use /dev/sda1: It is busy
[20:14] <Slugs_> mdadm: cannot open /dev/sda1: Device or resource busy
[20:17] <RoyK> Slugs_: first of all, why partitions?
[20:18] <Slugs_> Hi RoyK
[20:18] <Slugs_> well, that’s one of the guides i followed online
[20:18] <Slugs_> don
[20:18] <Slugs_> i can delete the partitions
[20:19] <RoyK> Slugs_: and --level=stripe - is that like russian roulette
[20:19] <Slugs_> lol
[20:19] <Slugs_> yeah i know you and i discussed this, i didn’t care about data loss
[20:20] <jrwren> partitions are good.
[20:20] <RoyK> jrwren: nah
[20:20] <RoyK> jrwren: using raw disks is better
[20:20] <jrwren> why?
[20:20] <RoyK> jrwren: helps things when you want to extend
[20:20] <jrwren> how?
[20:20] <RoyK> jrwren: why do you want those partitions anyway?
[20:20] <jrwren> need everything to start offset a few MB so I can keep bootsectors at start of disk.
[20:21] <RoyK> jrwren: hey! I have a partition! it's 2TB!
[20:21] <jrwren> right, 2TB minus 2MB so that I can boot from any disk in the set
[20:21] <RoyK> jrwren: don't use the OS disks for data
[20:21] <jrwren> why?
[20:21] <RoyK> jrwren: use data disks for data, use separate OS disks
[20:21] <jrwren> why?
[20:21] <RoyK> jrwren: because it makes things easier
[20:21] <RoyK> jrwren: recovery etc
[20:22] <jrwren> how?
[20:22] <Slugs_> lol
[20:22] <RoyK> jrwren: but then, I've only worked with this for 20+ years :P
[20:22] <jrwren> could it be the same year 20 times? :p
[20:22] <RoyK> jrwren: take a good advice, please
[20:22] <jrwren> why?
[20:23] <RoyK> jrwren: just google it
[20:23] <jrwren> ok.
[20:23]  * RoyK is not in a mood of teaching idiots how to ignore advices
[20:23] <Slugs_> ok so i have 4 disks, all 4TB a peice
[20:23] <Slugs_> used only for data
[20:23] <RoyK> Slugs_: why raid0
[20:24] <Slugs_> i was doing it for speed.
[20:24] <Slugs_> but i think yiou migfht have said not really good performance with 4 TB disks anyway
[20:24] <RoyK> Slugs_: you'll get the same speed of a raid5 with 3 drives as a raid0 of 4 drives, sequencially
[20:24] <Slugs_> what do i do with the other disk?
[20:24] <RoyK> Slugs_: and it saves a day or three if you use raid5
[20:25] <RoyK> when that one drive dies
[20:25] <RoyK> and it will
[20:25] <Slugs_> yeah
[20:25] <Slugs_> ok
[20:25] <Slugs_> what do i do with the 4th disk though?
[20:25] <jrwren> Slugs_: alternatively, you can test it both ways and measure for your specific application and use which works best for you.
[20:26] <Slugs_> yeah makes sense
[20:26] <RoyK> Slugs_: just use a single drive, even a thumb drive, for the root
[20:26] <RoyK> Slugs_: then use the 4TB things in raid5
[20:26] <Slugs_> yeah i have 1 500 gb for root
[20:26] <Slugs_> and 4, 4TB drives for data
[20:26] <RoyK> nice
[20:27] <RoyK> Slugs_: then create a raid5 on those
[20:27] <RoyK> Slugs_: you can change to raid0 later if you want
[20:27] <jrwren> Slugs_: so your 1 500GB is /dev/sde ?
[20:27] <Slugs_> ok so i can do raid5 on 4 disks then
[20:27] <Slugs_> jrwren: yes exactly
[20:27] <RoyK> Slugs_: just use raid5 on those, directly on the disks
[20:27] <RoyK> Slugs_: no partitions needed
[20:27] <jrwren> Slugs_: good. just making sure it isn't sda. :)
[20:28] <Slugs_> how did you know thaT?
[20:28] <RoyK> lsscsi?
[20:28] <RoyK> jrwren: it doesn't matter if it it's called sda or not
[20:28] <jrwren> RoyK: it would matter if the 500GB disk is sda, and he just ran mdadm passing sda1 as a partition to use.
[20:29] <RoyK> jrwren: it wouldn't work
[20:29] <jrwren> Slugs_: good luck.
[20:29] <jrwren> RoyK: exactly. and Slugs_ said, 'this command doesn't work"
[20:29] <jrwren> specifically /dev/sda1 in use.
[20:29] <RoyK> Slugs_: pastebin lsscsi or output of /proc/partitions, please
[20:30] <RoyK> or both
[20:30] <RoyK> or output of lsblk
[20:30] <Slugs_> ok
[20:31] <Slugs_> i just deleted the parttions though… one sec
[20:31] <Slugs_> http://pastebin.com/bT6faShV
[20:32] <RoyK> ok, sde is the root?
[20:32] <Slugs_> yes it has the OS on it
[20:32] <Slugs_> http://pastebin.com/4R5w304i
[20:33] <Slugs_> here is the output of lsblk
[20:33] <RoyK> then mdadm --create --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/md0 /dev/sd{a..d}
[20:33] <Slugs_> i don’t have lsscsi
[20:33] <RoyK> no need
[20:33] <RoyK> you can install it later
[20:33] <Slugs_> mdadm: cannot open /dev/sda: Device or resource busy
[20:34] <Slugs_> oh wait i did have this error
[20:34] <Slugs_> one sec
[20:34] <RoyK> what does mount say?
[20:34] <RoyK> is sda1 mounted?
[20:34] <Slugs_> not in df -h
[20:34] <jrwren> Slugs_: i noticed the openstack vg name. are you going to run swift on that storage?
[20:34] <Slugs_> is there another way to tell?
[20:35] <Slugs_> jrwren: id like to use it as blockstorage yes
[20:35] <Slugs_> cinder
[20:35] <jrwren> Slugs_: swift backed cinder?
[20:35] <RoyK> Slugs_: raid0 for blockstorage?
[20:35] <RoyK> you must be insane
[20:36] <Slugs_> i was testing out speed, it wasn’t a final configuration
[20:36] <Slugs_> just testing
[20:36] <Slugs_> not planning on using it…
[20:36] <jrwren> Slugs_: i'll assume it is not production and not call you names :)
[20:36] <Slugs_> ;)
[20:36] <Slugs_> thanks
[20:36] <RoyK> what does /proc/mdstat have to say?
[20:36] <RoyK> or pvs
[20:37] <Slugs_> Personalities :
[20:37] <Slugs_> unused devices: <none>
[20:37] <Slugs_>   PV         VG           Fmt  Attr PSize   PFree
[20:37] <Slugs_>   /dev/sde5  openstack-vg lvm2 a--  465.52g 52.00m
[20:37] <RoyK> ok
[20:37] <RoyK> can fdisk access /dev/sda?
[20:37] <Slugs_> yes
[20:37] <RoyK> and delete that partition?
[20:38] <Slugs_> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 25: Inappropriate ioctl for device.
[20:38] <Slugs_> The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at
[20:38] <Slugs_> the next reboot or after you run partprobe(8) or kpartx(8)
[20:38] <Slugs_> then i ran partprobe
[20:38] <Slugs_> didn’t give any errors, but i guess something is still confused
[20:39] <RoyK> remove the partition and reboot
[20:39] <Slugs_> ok
[20:39] <Slugs_> rebooting ....
[20:43] <RoyK> ...
[20:43] <Slugs_> it’s back up
[20:44] <Slugs_> oh boy
[20:44] <RoyK> pastebin lsblk again
[20:44] <Slugs_> ok
[20:44] <RoyK> or did mdadm --create work?
[20:44] <Slugs_> http://pastebin.com/aECe1zwt
[20:44] <Slugs_> no the drive names changed
[20:45] <Slugs_> good thing i didn’t just run it
[20:45] <Slugs_> well like you said it might not have letme
[20:45] <Slugs_> let me*
[20:45] <RoyK> ok, so mdadm --create /dev/md0 --raid-devices=4 --level=5 /dev/sd{b..e}
[20:46] <RoyK> dev names change
[20:46] <RoyK> md uses UUIDs to determine which drives are what
[20:46] <Slugs_> it worked
[20:47] <RoyK> then vgcreate
[20:47] <RoyK> and lvcreate
[20:47] <RoyK> and put a filesystem on top of the lv
[20:47] <Slugs_> the guide said , assemble
[20:47] <Slugs_> so… this is diff
[20:47]  * Slugs_ is looking up vgcreate and lvcreate
[20:47] <RoyK> assemble is what you do when things mess up
[20:48] <Slugs_> i see
[20:48] <RoyK> apt-get install lvm2
[20:48] <RoyK> but that's probably installed already
[20:48] <RoyK> pvcreate /dev/md0
[20:48] <Slugs_> it is
[20:48] <RoyK> vgcreate mysuperdata /dev/md0
[20:49] <RoyK> lvcreate -l 100%FREE veryimportantdata mysuperdata
[20:49] <RoyK> or something about that
[20:50] <jrwren> Slugs_: what guide?
[20:50] <Slugs_> one that sucks i guess
[20:50] <Slugs_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[20:51] <RoyK> Slugs_: did you create the pv or vg?
[20:51] <Slugs_> yes RoyK just working on the lvcreate and seeing what that did
[20:52] <RoyK> it creates a logical volume
[20:52] <jrwren> Slugs_: server guide has this: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html  for future reference
[20:52] <RoyK> one you need for putting a fs on
[20:52] <Slugs_> ok
[20:52] <Slugs_> jrwren: thank you
[20:52] <RoyK> so after creating the lv
[20:52] <RoyK> what did you name it? what did you name the vg?
[20:53] <Slugs_> vg = data
[20:53] <Slugs_> what’s the veryimportantdata part?
[20:53] <RoyK> just a name
[20:53] <Slugs_> descrioption/?
[20:53] <Slugs_> ok
[20:54] <RoyK> you can rename it or remove it
[20:55] <Slugs_> hmm
[20:55] <Slugs_> root@openstack:/home/openstack# lvcreate -l 100%FREE /dev/md0 data
[20:55] <RoyK> lvs
[20:55] <Slugs_> ?
[20:55] <Slugs_>   Volume group "md0" not found
[20:55] <RoyK> if you didn't give it a name, it'll be named automatically
[20:56] <RoyK> erm
[20:56] <Slugs_> oh i see
[20:56] <Slugs_>   Logical volume "lvol0" created
[20:56] <RoyK> lvcreate -n myname -l 100%FREE data
[20:56] <Slugs_>   lvol0  data         -wi-a----  10.92t
[20:56] <Slugs_> i can rename it then,,, ok
[20:56] <RoyK> lvrename
[20:58] <Slugs_> what’s the path for the logical volume
[20:58] <Slugs_> root@openstack:/home/openstack# lvrename lvol0 UMS
[20:58] <Slugs_>   Path required for Logical Volume "lvol0"
[20:58] <RoyK> Slugs_: from the manual        lvrename /dev/vg02/lvold vg02/lvnew
[20:59] <Slugs_> ok got it
[21:00] <Slugs_> now i guess all i need is a filesystem on it?
[21:00] <RoyK> then put a filesystem on it
[21:00] <RoyK> I'd suggest xfs for most use
[21:00] <RoyK> ext4 isn't too good on large things
[21:00] <RoyK> I spent eight hours waiting for a 8TB ext4 filesystem doing fsck two days back
[21:00] <Slugs_> mkfs.xfs /dev/mapper/data-lvol0
[21:01] <Slugs_> oh my
[21:01] <RoyK> mhm
[21:01] <Slugs_> ok
[21:01] <RoyK> then add to /etc/fstab
[21:01] <RoyK> mount -a
[21:01] <RoyK> the normal things
[21:02] <Slugs_> ive seen so many different posts on what to put in your fstab file
[21:02] <qman__> I personally have misgivings about xfs but I admit it's from anecdotal experiences
[21:03] <RoyK> Slugs_: /dev/mapper/data-lvol0 /mountpoint xfs defaults 0 0
[21:03] <RoyK> qman__: probably anectdotal
[21:04] <ianorlyn> I think the unable to shrink it makes it not be defualt for lots of desktop but not really sure why most servers you would want to shrink a partition that much
[21:04] <ianorlyn> although sparse files is  a nice feature
[21:04] <qman__> I've lost data several times with xfs, never with ext3 or ext4
[21:04] <RoyK> ianorlyn: most filesystems won't be shrunk
[21:04] <Slugs_> RoyK: is mount -a supposed to just automuont this new fs?
[21:04] <RoyK> Slugs_: yes
[21:04] <sarnold> the only filesystem I've seen shrink was FAT, via the fips tool. scary as hell.
[21:05] <Slugs_> nothing appears to happen when i type df, or is it not suppoosed to show up there/
[21:05] <RoyK> Slugs_: but that data-lvol0 may be different when you changed the name of the lv
[21:05] <Slugs_> im not going to bother changing it
[21:05] <jrwren> how is the sparse files feature different in xfs v. ext4?
[21:05] <RoyK> Slugs_: pastebin lvs
[21:06] <RoyK> jrwren: hardly
[21:06] <Slugs_> http://pastebin.com/eFjJA9zy
[21:07] <jrwren> i've shrunk ext4 many times. it works nicely.
[21:07] <sarnold> jrwren: that's even scarier :)
[21:07] <RoyK> Slugs_: so /dev/data/lvol0 /data xfs defaults 0 0
[21:07] <Slugs_> ok
[21:07] <qman__> I've also run into the problem with xfs where you can't add any more files even though there's more space because the first block thing is full
[21:08] <RoyK> Slugs_: just create /data first
[21:08] <qman__> I forget what it's called
[21:08] <jrwren> sarnold: i should have been more scared than I was. i shrunk without backup! ;]
[21:08] <sarnold> jrwren: brave brave brave :) hehe
[21:09] <RoyK> qman__: I have this neat 25TB filesystem on xfs - works well
[21:09] <qman__> I've shrunk ext file systems without problems too
[21:09] <Slugs_> RoyK: Thank you!
[21:09] <RoyK> Slugs_: ;)
[21:09] <Slugs_> 11 TB
[21:09] <ianorlyn> although the man pages for xfsprogs and e2fsprogs contain some nice looking options
[21:09] <qman__> RoyK: this was a 110tb fs that was expanded
[21:09] <RoyK> qman__: oops
[21:10] <qman__> Yeah, customer made some unwise choices, nothing I could do by the time I got to it
[21:10] <RoyK> qman__: a restore from tape to that would take some time
[21:10] <jrwren> sarnold: i'm too stupid to be brave :)   truthful, its my data, I considered the risk of doing it with backup and not, and made a decision
[21:10] <qman__> They let it fill 100% then expanded
[21:11] <RoyK> Slugs_: does it work?
[21:11] <ianorlyn> worst backup solution ever raid 0 tape drives
[21:11] <Slugs_> RoyK: yes
[21:11] <Slugs_> I guess it’s initializing or something
[21:11] <Slugs_> i did /proc/mdstat
[21:11] <Slugs_> and it appears to be initializing i guess
[21:11] <RoyK> Slugs_: give it a reboot to see if it's coming up correctly
[21:12] <Slugs_>       [>....................]  recovery =  4.2% (167079192/3906887168) finish=491.0min speed=126940K/sec
[21:12] <Slugs_> what about this...
[21:12] <RoyK> Slugs_: it needs to initiate the raid
[21:12] <RoyK> or initialise
[21:12] <Slugs_> should i reboot now or wait
[21:12] <RoyK> wait
[21:12] <Slugs_> ok
[21:12] <qman__> Makes no difference really
[21:12] <qman__> If you reboot it will resume
[21:13] <Slugs_> oh, not start over?
[21:13] <RoyK> qman__: does ubuntu boot with degraded now?
[21:13] <Slugs_> i read a post it did
[21:13] <qman__> Oh, that might be a headache, forgot about that
[21:14] <RoyK> Slugs_: dpkg-reconfigure mdraid
[21:14] <RoyK> Slugs_: and choose boot degraded
[21:14] <Slugs_> it’s not a boot drive though, is that ok?
[21:15] <RoyK> Slugs_: some idiots have chosen ubuntu not to boot with degraded raid
[21:15] <RoyK> that's what raid is for for fscks sake
[21:15] <Slugs_> wow, so if your raid becomes degraded……. you can’t boot of your non raid boot drive?
[21:15] <Slugs_> off*
[21:15] <qman__> Because it's "safer" for those who don't monitor their systems
[21:16] <RoyK> qman__: heh
[21:16] <qman__> Forces them to fix it rather than let it die
[21:16] <RoyK> qman__: doesn't make sense
[21:16] <Slugs_> am i right and what your saying?
[21:16] <qman__> Yeah, I don't agree with it either, but that's the reasoning
[21:17] <RoyK> qman__: a system that lets you do an rm -f anywhere and not letting the system boot without a drive in a raid?
[21:17] <qman__> I also don't agree with grub halting on failure to boot
[21:17] <qman__> Causing lots of annoying unnecessary dispatches that
[21:18] <RoyK> Slugs_: just reconfigure that and try a reboot
[21:18] <Slugs_> http://pastebin.com/EwqXCWMB
[21:18] <RoyK> Slugs_: it'll show how well the system works with a failed drive
[21:18] <qman__> The power flickering a couple times shouldn't stop the system from booting when it comes back
[21:19] <RoyK> Slugs_: that's the data storage, not your boot device
[21:19] <Slugs_> ok
[21:19] <RoyK> Slugs_:
[21:20] <Slugs_> ok rebooting
[21:20] <Slugs_> down...
[21:22] <RoyK> damn - home server went down :(
[21:29] <Slugs_> back up RoyK
[21:29] <Slugs_> df -h
[21:29] <Slugs_> looks like it picked up where it left off
[21:30] <Slugs_> so if i wouldnt have installed dmraid, and a drive when down i would not be able to boot/>
[21:30] <Slugs_> ?
[21:30] <Slugs_> i have to write all this down...
[21:38] <qman__> I use partitions not only because of the boot feature, but also to prevent data loss in the event of a misguided partitioning tool or grub install, and also because I've run into instances where one type of hard drive is just slightly larger or smaller than another
[21:39] <qman__> A 2mb buffer can save you when the replacement disk you bought is a block smaller than the one it's replacing
[21:41] <qman__> It also makes it apparent what's on the disk in a recovery scenario
[22:38] <th3s3_3y3s> Where is the module block list. Looks like I disabled blutooth due to an ipv6 network runnung by default.
[23:23] <th3s3_3y3s> Ruben
[23:23] <th3s3_3y3s> Do you want to install man in eden folder?
[23:24] <th3s3_3y3s> Enough shah on me yet?
[23:24] <th3s3_3y3s> What is the lady in red for?
[23:24] <th3s3_3y3s> Is there a different rib?
[23:28] <th3s3_3y3s> The pabdora network U disabled.
[23:29] <th3s3_3y3s> Youns need to plug into my skynet.
[23:29] <th3s3_3y3s> Usb has a 30 ft radius. This is red security zone.
[23:30] <th3s3_3y3s> So far looking bad.
[23:30] <th3s3_3y3s> Send chopper to pick up man and install man in a 30 ft shielded room.
[23:32] <th3s3_3y3s> Usb bluetooth has been causing a priblem.
[23:32] <th3s3_3y3s> Its been shooting out signals.