[07:24] <vip3rousmango> or mount them so i can play in my PSX emu
[07:24] <outer> Is Thunderbird 2.0 not out for Ubuntu or something?
[07:24] <neasteflorin> you can butn .img
[07:24] <neasteflorin> get nero linux
[07:24] <grazed> anyone? =/
[07:24] <varka> shiester_miester: k ^^
[07:24] <vip3rousmango> nero linux!?
[07:24] <shiester_miester> Llama052, try doing this in a terminal and tell me what happens; "shutdown 0"
[07:25] <vip3rousmango> oh snap.. brb
[07:25] <Llama052> lol
[07:25] <neasteflorin> it's nero for linux
[07:25] <Llama052> It will prolly shutdown
[07:25] <shiester_miester> nero for linux?
[07:25] <shiester_miester> such a thing exists?
[07:25] <shiester_miester> you lie!
[07:25] <neasteflorin> yes
[07:25] <vip3rousmango> where??
[07:25] <shiester_miester> noooooo
[07:25] <neasteflorin> go and search nero for linux
[07:25] <Nutubuntu> why would we need it?
[07:25] <neasteflorin> in google
[07:25] <Llama052> In the Konsole I get "shutdown: need to be root"
[07:25] <grazed> does anyone know if that is a common issue?
[07:25] <shiester_miester> sorry everyone, i gotta go for a sec...brb
[07:25] <Llama052> Weird?
[07:26] <Llama052> I get "shutdown : need to be root"
[07:26] <neasteflorin> someone help please?
[07:26] <varka> shiester_miester: its just that i posted a link of a detailed forumthread about installation issues for macbook pro two times but he didnt pay attention and went on beggin for answers ;)
[07:26] <n8of9> grazed: you might want to verify which display is configured in your BIOS...  There's lots of good burning apps in Linux already...
[07:27] <Zack> Hi! I am not getting something on how to install adobe flash player. I have followed the instructions on the site  to install the .tar.gz but it doesnt seem to work.. heres the site.  http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW
[07:27] <neasteflorin> serial for nero linux at www.serials.ws
[07:27] <outer> If Nero can make a paid official release for linux why can't Adobe...
[07:27] <Llama052> adobe should!
[07:27] <n8of9> grazed: when you get to the blank screen, try ctrl-alt-f1.  See if that takes you to a console.   We'll see from there.
[07:29] <Nutubuntu> varka, thought that's who you meant = he was not paying attention was he.
[07:29] <neasteflorin>  zack" no
[07:29] <grazed> ok, i shall be back. thank you =)
[07:29] <Madpilot> ubotu, flash | Zack
[07:29] <ubotu> Zack: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:29] <Newbie_Dude> So, I live in the stone-age and still use dialup modem. I ran a ScanModem and it says I have a Conexant modem. Also, it says I have to pay 19.95 to Linuxant, but I didn't realize a driver would cost money. >_< Does anyone know an alternative driver for Conexant Modem?
[07:29] <varka> Nutubuntu: not really ... well, not my problem
[07:29] <astro76> vip3rousmango, k3b can burn .img
[07:30] <neasteflorin> i use gnomebaker
[07:30] <Nutubuntu> varka, it takes two, yes? one to send, one to receive.
[07:30] <Zack> madpilot: i know that but im trying to install this .tar.gz file and it has always givin me problems i have never been able to install one.
[07:30] <Nutubuntu> Llama052,  fixable?
[07:30] <vip3rousmango> astro76: ok, i'll give it a shot..
[07:30] <shiester_miester> ok there is no way im reading back over all that
[07:30] <Newbie_Dude> !conexant
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conexant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <shiester_miester> anyone want to ask me all their questions again?  please keep it civil...
[07:30] <Madpilot> Zack, if you want Flash, you don't have to mess with tar.gz...
[07:30] <Llama052> hmm what?
[07:30] <n8of9> shiester_miester: oh, come on... it'll only be triple the length by the time you're done reading up to this point ;)
[07:31] <Nutubuntu> Um ... whatever kubuntu may have done, Llama052
[07:31] <h4lfl1ng> tar xvf blah.tar.gz, cd blah/, ./configure, make, make install
[07:31] <Zack> madpilot: well then wtf is this?? http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW
[07:31] <shiester_miester> n8of9, im the shiester_miester, not the reader_miester
[07:31] <Llama052> I dont know
[07:31] <Llama052> but its making me mad
[07:31] <Llama052> I have no sound now.
[07:31] <bruenig> you don't install tar.gz, that is like saying you install .zip
[07:31] <Markos> anybody know if its possible to specifiy dcc ports in xchat-gnome? i dont see it
[07:31] <LinuxProbie> vip3rousmango, try bchunk
[07:31] <Newbie_Dude> Does anyone know where to get free dialup modem drivers (particularly for Conexant) I can't afford the 19.95 a year from Linuxant for a driver...
[07:31] <shiester_miester> gday bruenig
[07:31] <shiester_miester> how you doing?
[07:31] <Madpilot> Zack, there are easier ways of installing Flash - see the blurb the bot dropped on you, please
[07:31] <Llama052> NO sound and when I type shutdown 0 in console I get "need to be root"
[07:31] <bruenig> gees you are in here still
[07:31] <shiester_miester> Newbie_Dude, you have to PAY for drivers!?
[07:32] <Nutubuntu> Llama052,  you *do* need to be root to issue a shutdown cmd
[07:32] <Zack> madpilot: i tried synaptic and it doesnt have this version
[07:32] <Llama052> I am root
[07:32] <Zack> ubotu flash
[07:32] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:32] <shiester_miester> bruenig, yes, i am the ghost of netsplits past!  wooooOOOOOoooo
[07:32] <shiester_miester> Llama052, try "sudo shutdown 0"
[07:32] <Newbie_Dude> @shiester_miester: Yah, this play "linuxant" is charging 19.95 for a dialup modem driver.  I'm reading uncarefully I guess
[07:33] <Optimus55> hey i tried ubuntu live cd, and its fairly decent speed. can anyone tell me if a fully installed ubuntu is faster than xp?
[07:33] <astro76> Llama052, shutdown 0, is 0 a valid option to shutdown? try shutdown -h now
[07:33] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, in some ways, yes, and others, no
[07:33] <Optimus55> how so?
[07:33] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, it has the potential to be faster because its more flexible
[07:33] <Madpilot> Optimus55, if you got good speed out of the LiveCD, you'll get even better speed out of the installed version
[07:33] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, its faster to boot, for me anyway
[07:33] <Nutubuntu> Llama052,  -r for restart and -h for halt (that is, stop)
[07:33] <Optimus55> the live cd take eons to boot tho... :(
[07:34] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, yeah cos its a CD!
[07:34] <Optimus55> how long does the full install take?
[07:34] <Optimus55> t oboot
[07:34] <Optimus55> to*
[07:34] <shiester_miester> mine takes something like 20 seconds
[07:34] <Littlegator> So my computer was powering down in windows and freezing on Ubuntu. I checked the heatsink on my CPU and it had 1/4 of an inch of dust caked on it. Could this have been the problem?
[07:34] <Ayabara> can I add/sutract hex numbers in a shell?
[07:34] <bruenig> Optimus55, linux is faster than xp, what you put on top of it, all the applications and such will dictate just how much you damper its speed, gnome is on the higher end of speed destruction
[07:34] <Nutubuntu> Optimus55,  booting from the HD is fast ... 15-20 sec maybe
[07:34] <Madpilot> Optimus55, mine boots in less than a minute - never bothered timing it
[07:34] <conorkirkpatrick> If my unbuntu install locked up when copying the log file, does that mean I can just hard reboot it and it will have ubuntu?
[07:34] <Newbie_Dude> @Optimus55: I've been on the full install for about 12 hours now. Seems to run very fast. My only problem is sometimes I click on a menu and it doesn't respond, so I gotta click again. :P Might be poor depth perception but not sure yet. :)
[07:34] <Optimus55> nice!
[07:35] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, also if you use 64bit ubuntu on 64bit architecture you can get extra speed, at the sacrifice of quite a bit of application compatibility
[07:35] <Llama052> Okay how do I restore to when I didnt have kubuntu
[07:35] <shiester_miester> Newbie_Dude, i have a similar problem, but its not a speed issue
[07:35] <Optimus55> does compiz fusion or any other nice graphics stuff affect the speed much?
[07:35] <h4lfl1ng> any ubuntu sound experts?
[07:35] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, YES
[07:35] <Zack> ok i need to install adobe flash player. how to?
[07:35] <n8of9> Littlegator: I'm not sure what problem you were having, but I'm going to say yes.
[07:35] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, any high-end 3d graphics slows down the OS :P
[07:35] <Newbie_Dude> @shiester_miester: I just downgraded from AMD64 version to i386 because a lot of the programs I wanted didn't support AMD64.
[07:35] <Ayabara> when I use the calculator in Scientific mode I want to use the letters to input hex values A-F. Can this be done?
[07:35] <Optimus55> shiester_miester: x_x
[07:36] <hsimah> hello, i am having trouble installing adobe flash player
[07:36] <hsimah> ive used add/remove and apt-get to install it
[07:36] <Optimus55> is that a graphics card issue or just how linux is?
[07:36] <Newbie_Dude> !dapper
[07:36] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[07:36] <Madpilot> Optimus55, 'slow down' is relative, of course...
[07:36] <bruenig> hsimah, do you use 64 bit?
[07:36] <hsimah> no
[07:36] <sx66> how do you stop the 'key ring manager' from popping up every time I connect to a wifi hotspot and asking for a passkey?
[07:36] <hsimah> im on feisty fawn
[07:36] <bruenig> hsimah, do ls /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and pastebin the output
[07:36] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, nothing to do with graphics card or ubuntu
[07:36] <bruenig> !paste | hsimah
[07:36] <ubotu> hsimah: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <Madpilot> Optimus55, the alternative to 'graphics slow down your machine' is 'use only the command line' - which, let's face it, isn't that realistic an option...
[07:37] <Zack> Adobe flash player install anyone.
[07:37] <infamouskid> Does anyone knwo how to enable the snowfall effect in beryl??
[07:37] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, its just caused by the amount of processing that has to be done to make it look really fancy
[07:37] <Zack> Install.
[07:37] <Newbie_Dude> Does anyone know what "kernel version" Ubuntu 7.06 uses?
[07:37] <outer> It's amazing, I've never been on the Ubuntu channel before and it's so busy... A lot of other channels are like "Wait 10 minutes... Reply (maybe)"
[07:37] <bruenig> Newbie_Dude, no such thing as 7.06
[07:37] <Llama052> How do I restore to which a time I never had kunutu!?
[07:37] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, thats like asking: why does playing games with high graphics requirements slow down the OS...its the same reason
[07:37] <astro76> sx66, read the Automatic Keyring section here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[07:37] <Newbie_Dude> @bruenig: whoops, i mean the version "Feisty" or whatever :P Just downloaded it from the Ubuntu page
[07:38] <vip3rousmango> OK so my K3D isn't recognizing .img files..
[07:38] <hsimah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29760/
[07:38] <Littlegator> What is Grub error 17?
[07:38] <Madpilot> Newbie_Dude, 7.04 uses 2.6.20-16-generic
[07:38] <bruenig> !prefix | hsimah
[07:38] <ubotu> hsimah: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[07:38] <shiester_miester> outer, thats cos ubuntu kicks your asses!
[07:38] <Llama052> hello?
[07:38] <Nutubuntu> Newbie_Dude,  you can see the kernel version by opening a terminal and keying in 'uname -a'
[07:38] <hsimah> oh sorry
[07:38] <shiester_miester> Llama052, hi!
[07:38] <shiester_miester> Llama052, format the drive its on?
[07:38] <Zack> ;(
[07:38] <Zack> :(
[07:38] <Llama052> I have to do that?
[07:38] <shiester_miester> Llama052, if you format the drive, you wont have it anymore
[07:38] <hsimah> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29760/ :)
[07:38] <Optimus55> ohhh i see what ur saying
[07:38] <Llama052> Neither will I have ubuntu
[07:38] <shiester_miester> Llama052, maybe you should rephrase your question
[07:38] <astro76> sx66, your keyring password has to be the same as your user password, and apparently there is no way to change the keyring password yet besides deleting ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring
[07:39] <Llama052> I want to restore my ubuntu to a earlier time
[07:39] <bruenig> hsimah, ok so what shows up in firefox when you put about:plugins in the address bar for flash
[07:39] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, yeah, you need to consider how seriously tricked-out most of the effects are...they arent easy to do
[07:39] <Optimus55> well i guess once you have a decent gfx card and cpu then the "processing" shouldnt be too much of a hit
[07:39] <astro76> sx66, the 3rd line about changing keyring password did not work for me
[07:39] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, yeah, i rarely see much impact on my processing because of it
[07:39] <Optimus55> k cool.
[07:39] <Optimus55> worth a try anyhow
[07:39] <hsimah> bruenig: there is nothing about flash in there
[07:39] <shiester_miester> Optimus55, as long as you have a good graphics card, plenty of ram and a good cpu
[07:39] <Nutubuntu> Llama052,  what did you do, that you want to  undo? what specific thing(s)?
[07:39] <bruenig> hsimah, what version of ubuntu
[07:39] <Llama052> Kubuntu
[07:40] <Madpilot> OpenBot, are you a bot?
[07:40] <OpenBot> no idea, madpilot
[07:40] <hsimah> feisty fawn, 7.04
[07:40] <shiester_miester> Llama052, you dont "undo" an operating system...did you install kubuntu over the top of vanilla ubuntu?
[07:40] <Llama052> yes
[07:40] <shiester_miester> err ok
[07:40] <shiester_miester> you could have always just installed KDE
[07:40] <hsimah> when i apt-get the plugin it says theres an md5sum mismatch, but it then says its at the latest version if i run it again
[07:41] <shiester_miester> Llama052, in that case, you can just install gnome, since i believe the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is that the latter uses KDE and the former uses gnome
[07:41] <bruenig> hsimah, yeah there has been some weird stuff with flash as of late from the repos, I would just sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree and then install from adobe
[07:41] <Llama052> whats the cmd for that?
[07:41] <shiester_miester> hsimah, yeah i hate it when the hash check fails, its so annoying
[07:41] <Nutubuntu> Llama052,  you might be able to get back to "pure" Gnome Ubuntu by doing this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[07:41] <hsimah> ok, ill try that
[07:41] <echosystm> can someone tell me where the x-config file is?
[07:41] <echosystm> gotta change res
[07:41] <Llama052> thats the longest cmd ive ever seen
[07:41] <astro76> echosystm, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:41] <hsimah> it also fails when i use firefox to download the plugin. says its installed but then asks me to install it again
[07:42] <shiester_miester> echosystm, do you mean change your current res, or the list of resolutions?
[07:42] <echosystm> its not letting me run 1680x1050 @ 60hz for some reason
[07:42] <echosystm> how do i fix that?
[07:42] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[07:42] <Nutubuntu> Oh dear me .. Llama052 that is not a command, it is the URI for a website that might tell you how to get out of the fix you're in
[07:42] <shiester_miester> echosystm, yeah, edit your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <echosystm> what do i change in particular?
[07:42] <shiester_miester> echosystm, but make sure to back it up first! if you mess it up it can be very hard to fix if you arent comfortable with it
[07:42] <astro76> echosystm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:42] <Llama052> It has a link with a cmd
[07:42] <Nutubuntu> I'm sorry that was unclear
[07:42] <echosystm> thanks
[07:42] <Madpilot> ubotu, fixres | echosystm
[07:42] <ubotu> echosystm: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:42] <bruenig> Llama052, it is a quite stupid way to uninstall everything in the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[07:43] <shiester_miester> Nutubuntu, lmao that command is colossal
[07:43] <outer> Does anyone sometimes get a black screen when running applications while using Beryl?
[07:43] <Llama052> do what now?
[07:43] <Zack> Could somebody please tell me what i am doing wrong on installing adobe flash player!?
[07:43] <Nutubuntu> Oh! the command *on* the webpage
[07:43] <Nutubuntu> Golly I am so dense tonight
[07:43] <PurpZeY> outer: Yes...Just do "reload window manager"
[07:43] <Zack> outer: you can change it to metacity and it should take care of that problem
[07:43] <Nutubuntu> I hope it's just tonight ... :#
[07:43] <bruenig> someone should email him a way to do it with apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop followed by some clever sed and greps
[07:43] <shiester_miester> Zack, yeah but then you lose the compositing :P
[07:43] <mdmkolbe|work> How do I figure out what package contains stdlib.h.  I'm compiling something that depends on it and it doesn't seem to be present.
[07:43] <bruenig> that way he wouldn't have to update every release
[07:43] <shiester_miester> the better way is to set it to indirect rendering
[07:44] <Nutubuntu> Llama052,  you can cut and paste, I think that's what it intends you to do
[07:44] <Llama052> yeah
[07:44] <Llama052> Its loading
[07:44] <shiester_miester> outer, just set your compositing software to use indirect rendering.  you will get a performance drop but you shouldn't get that black window bug
[07:44] <PurpZeY> shiester_miester: I've relieved that problem myself by switching to metacity and switching back
[07:44] <hsimah> hooray, it installed from adobe
[07:44] <Zack> Adobe flash player! can someone help me install it?
[07:44] <hsimah> thanks bruenig :)
[07:44] <shiester_miester> outer, the problem is due to a memory leak in nvidia's drivers
[07:44] <PurpZeY> !flash
[07:44] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:44] <bruenig> hsimah, k
[07:44] <outer> I see.
[07:44] <shiester_miester> PurpZeY, true, but using indirect rendering will mean it doesnt happen at all, ever
[07:44] <Zack> That flash page Does NOT help
[07:44] <PurpZeY> shiester_miester: that sounds like work to me
[07:44] <bruenig> Zack, apparently flash from the repos has been iffy of late, get the tarball from adobe, and move over libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:45] <outer> Eh, I love the cube a lot though, I'd like to keep Beryl around if I can.
[07:45] <shiester_miester> PurpZeY, huh?  its LESS work
[07:45] <shiester_miester> you just click one setting and thats it, forever
[07:45] <PurpZeY> shiester_miester: I don't experience the problem all that often
[07:45] <_Codeman_> Technical question: How does the "clipboard" work in Kubuntu?
[07:45] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[07:45] <Zack> bruenig: i havent gotten that far!
[07:45] <shiester_miester> _Codeman_, data gets copied into a little spot in ram
[07:45] <Zack> i just downloaded the file and extracted it thats it
[07:45] <PurpZeY> shiester_miester: I was just being tired lazy and wiseguy
[07:45] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[07:46] <bruenig> Zack, well like I said, move over libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:46] <shiester_miester> _Codeman_, when you press "copy" the application probably tells the kernel to put some data into a shared area in ram that other apps can look at
[07:46] <_Codeman_> I'm writing a program that I would like to have parse data and put something in the clipboard... but I don't know how to access the buffer
[07:46] <Zack> bruenig: .so is the format after its extracted?
[07:46] <Newbie_Dude> Is Ubuntu a "non Plug-n-Play" OS? I ran a ScanModem and it says it can't use IRQ 0-255 and to turn off Plug-N-Play in my BIOS, but I'm afraid to turn that off without knowing if Ubuntu is a plug-n-play OS or not
[07:46] <bruenig> Zack, move the file over
[07:47] <shiester_miester> _Codeman_, download the source of some program that has copy/paste functionality and take a look
[07:47] <bruenig> Zack, inside that directory there is a file, it is called libflashplayer.so, you move that into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:47] <shiester_miester> Newbie_Dude, yes it is
[07:47] <shiester_miester> Newbie_Dude, afaik, anyway :/
[07:47] <shiester_miester> Newbie_Dude, all my plug & play stuff works in ubuntu, so i guess it is
[07:48] <Newbie_Dude> OK well I turned off Plug-N-Play and my computer didn't blow up so I guess it's OK. :P
[07:48] <shiester_miester> ok
[07:48] <grazed> ok, so i tried the ctl+alt+f1 thing you told me. although that just started a different boot process
[07:48] <Zack> bruenig: any idea why it is telling me i dont have permission to do what i want to my own freaking computer? i hate that.
[07:48] <PurpZeY> !sudo | Zack
[07:48] <ubotu> Zack: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:48] <bruenig> Zack, it is a security measure
[07:48] <Nutubuntu> What could be causing disk activity every 6 seconds? AFAIK I am not reading or writing anything ..
[07:48] <shiester_miester> grazed, what!?
[07:48] <shiester_miester> grazed, ctrl+alt+f1 puts you into a terminal...not reboot
[07:48] <bruenig> Zack, move it over using sudo
[07:48] <grazed> =/
[07:49] <grazed> ok heres my problem
[07:49] <Zack> bruenig: how do i do that? do i have to use the terminal for that?
[07:49] <bruenig> Zack, yes
[07:49] <outer> Is there no Thunderbird 2 for Ubuntu?
[07:49] <shiester_miester> Zack, if the user has permission, then EVERY SINGLE program on the computer has permission, which would be very very bad :P
[07:49] <bruenig> Zack, sudo mv /path/to/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:49] <Zack> bruenig: oook i havent ever moved anything using the terminal
[07:49] <Zack> k
[07:49] <shiester_miester> outer, yes there is, im using it right now
[07:49] <bruenig> Zack, feel free to use tab to complete filenames
[07:50] <grazed> installation went through perfect. i can boot from the cd live just fine. but when i try to boot from my hd, i get the ubuntu progress bar... then poof. it tries to use my vga output on my notebook instead of the built in monitor.
[07:50] <outer> It's not coming up for me in add/remove (excuse my noobness)
[07:50] <outer> Where would I find it?
[07:50] <bruenig> !info thunderbird
[07:50] <ubotu> Package thunderbird does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:50] <shiester_miester> outer, no its not in the repos
[07:50] <bruenig> really
[07:50] <bruenig> wow
[07:50] <shiester_miester> outer, you can install it yourself really easily though
[07:50] <bruenig> anyone know why it isn't in the repos?
[07:50] <vip3rousmango> anyone here use the PSX emulator PCSX?
[07:50] <shiester_miester> bruenig, same reason pidgin isnt?
[07:51] <shiester_miester> outer, just download it from the website, extract it into a directory and run it from there
[07:51] <bruenig> shiester_miester, but that is just a new version, shouldn't they have old thunderbird
[07:51] <outer> Alright, thanks.
[07:51] <bruenig> shiester_miester, gaim for instance is in them
[07:51] <shiester_miester> bruenig, :/ good point
[07:51] <mdmkolbe|work> How do I figure out which package provides a particular file?  Such as stdlib.h.
[07:51] <shiester_miester> yeah
[07:51] <astro76> thunderbird 1.5 is in feisty
[07:51] <bruenig> !find stdlib.h
[07:51] <varun00> how do I make gnome scroll the desktop if it is larger than my screen?
[07:51] <ubotu> File stdlib.h found in apcalc-dev, avr-libc, bash-builtins, brickos, cmix (and 37 others)
[07:51] <cntrlx> Could someone help me get xvid to work with mplayer for my .avi?
[07:51] <bruenig> !info apt-file | mdmkolbe
[07:51] <ubotu> mdmkolbe: apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[07:51] <varka> !mozilla-thunderbird
[07:51] <astro76> !info mozilla-thunderbird
[07:51] <ubotu> mozilla-thunderbird: Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu0.7.04 (feisty), package size 10638 kB, installed size 29708 kB
[07:51] <bruenig> hmmm
[07:51] <shiester_miester> varun00, you should be able to do it by pushing against the edges of your screen with the mouse...or at least thats how it works on my system
[07:52] <varun00> shiester_miester: yea I thought that would do it.......but the mouse just disappears instead of the desktop scrolling
[07:52] <shiester_miester> cntrlx, you need to get the codecs
[07:52] <Newbie_Dude> Can anyone recommend a good *low-resource* IRC program for Ubuntu that allows me to turn off the annoying "left the room" "entered the room" messages?
[07:52] <shiester_miester> varun00, thats weird...
[07:52] <shiester_miester> Newbie_Dude, that message has nothing to do with the client
[07:52] <varka> Newbie_Dude: IRSSI
[07:52] <cntrlx> i cant do that with synaptic?
[07:52] <preaction> Newbie_Dude: irssi is quite configurable
[07:52] <shiester_miester> Newbie_Dude, although some clients can hide it
[07:53] <vip3rousmango> Newbie_Dude: Konverstation, X-Chat
[07:53] <grazed> i guess this is an issue that cant be resolved? no one responded on the forums either =/
[07:53] <Newbie_Dude> @shiester_miester: So can I type something now to turn the messages off?
[07:53] <vip3rousmango> Newbie_Dude: which IRC are u using?
[07:53] <quaal> anyone know of a book keeping program for gnu/linux similar to quickbooks, or if quickbooks somehow runs in it
[07:53] <shiester_miester> Newbie_Dude, dunno
[07:53] <shiester_miester> i dont really care, they dont bother me at all
[07:53] <shiester_miester> grazed, of course it can be resolved
[07:53] <mariocesar_bo> hello, how can i mount an .iso and emulate like it's same as a cdrom.
[07:53] <shiester_miester> grazed, does your laptop have vga input?
[07:53] <bruenig> !mountiso | mariocesar_bo
[07:53] <ubotu> mariocesar_bo: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:53] <vip3rousmango> mariocesar_bo: Gmount
[07:53] <Newbie_Dude> @vip3rousmango: I am using "GAIM" that came with Ubuntu. They just bother me cause it's hard to concentrate on what people are talkin' about. :P
[07:53] <cntrlx> what codec package should i get for mplayer
[07:53] <grazed> yep, i have a vga output
[07:54] <shiester_miester> grazed, plug the vga output into the vga input and there you go
[07:54] <bruenig> Newbie_Dude, gaim is weak, get xchat, you can do it
[07:54] <preaction> Newbie_Dude: use xchat instead? or irssi?
[07:54] <Nutubuntu> What could be causing disk activity every 6 seconds? I am not intentionally reading or writing anything ... not logging IRC either
[07:54] <grazed> ahah. well, i don't have a monitor handy.
[07:54] <Zack> bruenig: i did that command and pushed enter and it just went to another command line, does that mean it worked?
[07:54] <bruenig> Zack, yes
[07:54] <grazed> i'm at school with just my laptop.
[07:54] <outer> Alright, another small noob question (thanks for your time and patients). I've downloaded Thunderbird, where should I extract it to?
[07:54] <preaction> Newbie_Dude: i do believe that by default xchat automatically connects to this network and this channel
[07:54] <Newbie_Dude> X-Chat, thanks.
[07:54] <bruenig> Zack, it is installed now
[07:54] <vip3rousmango> Newbie_Dude: I used Gaim starting out as well. Try an actuall IRC client, not one that just runs on the IRC protocall. I like Konversation, i find it has a whole wack of nice features and a pleasing colour scheme..
[07:54] <shiester_miester> grazed, no no, not a monitor.  plug the laptops vga output INTO the laptops vga input
[07:54] <shiester_miester> grazed, just get a vga cable :P
[07:54] <varka> Zack: just open your firefox and type "about:plugins" into the adressfield
[07:55] <grazed> ohh, i got ya. no, i just have the output.
[07:55] <shiester_miester> grazed, oh ok
[07:55] <grazed> no input, sorry, i misunderstood.
[07:55] <Ademan> is there any way to "isolate" an application? sort of like a sandbox deal, except more for the purpose of security?
[07:55] <bruenig> konversation is kde, don't use it unless you are on kde especially since you request low resource
[07:55] <shiester_miester> grazed, you can probably fix that by messing with xorg.conf
[07:55] <shiester_miester> Ademan, yes there is
[07:55] <preaction> Ademan: it's called a "chroot jail"
[07:55] <mariocesar_bo> ubotu: it doesn't work for me, i explain myself. I am editing an ubuntu-installer and i want to mount the iso, and pop up the message to add the cdrom to synaptic
[07:55] <grazed> how can i get to that?
[07:55] <bruenig> !opsnack | mariocesar_bo
[07:55] <ubotu> mariocesar_bo: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[07:55] <mdmkolbe|work> bruenig: thanks.  I found it with apt-file after doing "sudo apt-file update"
[07:55] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: what version of quickbooks do you use?
[07:55] <Hoxzer> s
[07:55] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, not sure
[07:55] <bruenig> mdmkolbe, apt-file is good
[07:55] <shiester_miester> grazed, you should be able to start it up in recovery mode and use it?
[07:55] <vip3rousmango> bruenig: I use konversation and im not running kubuntu.. why can't i use it?
[07:55] <preaction> Ademan: it is not a simple task, though. i'm not sure if there's an easy utility to do it
[07:56] <Zack> bruenig: YES! i hope someone put an idea into launchpad about being able to drag and drop system files , just being asked for a password!
[07:56] <IndyGunFreak> wel,l that would help a lot, but here's a start...  http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=120
[07:56] <grazed> i'm assuming recovery mode gives just a command line?
[07:56] <bruenig> vip3rousmango, he said low resource, running a kde applications requires you to load tons more kde libs which would increase resource usage
[07:56] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, i just gave this guy an ubuntu7.04 cd because his windows is giving him shit freezing all the time
[07:56] <quaal> and he runs quickbooks on the windows
[07:56] <vip3rousmango> bruenig: ohh ok. Gotcha.
[07:56] <bruenig> Zack, command line is a good tool
[07:56] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: i see..,
[07:56] <Ademan> preaction: well alright i'm actually asking for a friend, but he was impressed with solaris' "containers"
[07:56] <dev_1> alo
[07:57] <bruenig> Zack, by the way I don't think that will happen because technically it would be difficult
[07:57] <shiester_miester> why do you want a "low resource" IRC client?  its not like xchat uses a particularly large amount...
[07:57] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: doesn't look like it works w/ wine
[07:57] <preaction> Ademan: solaris' containers are most likely chroot jails. (solaris being built / forked from unix)
[07:57] <dev_1> how to read file *.chm in ubuntu
[07:57] <shiester_miester> if you can run ubuntu, irc should be no problem, no matter what client it is
[07:57] <Hoxzer> DOes somebody here know what should I do if amarok doesn't start (doesn't show any errors)
[07:57] <varka> Zack: gksudo nautilus would do the job but i highly recommend the command line interface
[07:57] <mariocesar_bo> so how can i emulate mounting an iso, to behave same as I insert a cd?
[07:57] <bruenig> Hoxzer, running amarok from command line doesn't show any errors
[07:57] <bruenig> mariocesar_bo, you can't, the latter is a hal event
[07:57] <pppZero> Hoxzer: i get that sometimes, do a "killall amarokapp" and try again :)
[07:58] <shiester_miester> mariocesar_bo, we already told you
[07:58] <bruenig> mariocesar_bo, you can still do whatever you need to do though
[07:58] <shiester_miester> !mountiso | mariocesar_bo
[07:58] <ubotu> mariocesar_bo: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:58] <Zack> varka: what is gksudo nautilus
[07:58] <Zack> ?
[07:58] <Hoxzer> pppZero: that isn't running for me :(
[07:58] <varka> Zack: it runs nautilus with root privileges
[07:58] <shiester_miester> varka, runs nautilus with super user privileges
[07:58] <preaction> Ademan: i lied, solaris containers are internally virtual machines. chroot jails just run a single program with a different root directory
[07:58] <bruenig> Zack, nautilus is the name of the file manager
[07:58] <shiester_miester> varka, sudo != root
[07:58] <Hoxzer> can I use Rhythmbox to move files ?
[07:58] <shiester_miester> varka, sudo == super user
[07:58] <grazed> shiester_miester: does recovery mode give just a command line?
[07:58] <Zack> bruenig: so it does what i just described but it has security issues?
[07:58] <bruenig> Hoxzer, don't think so, easytag is good though I assume for what you may be trying to do
[07:59] <mariocesar_bo> bruenig: thanks, i think i keep using qemu to test my isos
[07:59] <astro76> shiester_miester, super user priveleges and root priveleges mean exactly the same thing
[07:59] <shiester_miester> grazed, yup.  from there you can edit xorg.conf and see if u can fix it
[07:59] <vip3rousmango> !mountiso | vip3rousmango
[07:59] <bruenig> Zack, no, it opens a file manager as root, there is a difference
[07:59] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: just doing some light googling, his best option might be to run WinXP in VMWare, and then install Quickboks there, and fire up Vmware when he needs to run Quickbook
[07:59] <varka> shiester_miester: i didnt say "it runs AS root" but with root priviliges!
[07:59] <shiester_miester> astro76, they mean the same thing, but they arent the same thing
[07:59] <shiester_miester> varka, oh ok, sorry
[07:59] <outer> When I download a package, where should I put it and how to I run it?
[07:59] <Ademan> preaction: yeah i sort of knew about chroot jails (well i just really know chroot), but that's interesting, you'd think a platform like linux would have something equivalent
[07:59] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: doesn't look like it works under linux, and i can't find any real alternatives
[07:59] <grazed> so, just type xorg.conf at the command line to start it?
[07:59] <Zack> bruenig: as apposed to it opening as..
[07:59] <bruenig> outer, what is the name of the file?
[07:59] <shiester_miester> grazed, no its a configuration file, you need to edit it
[07:59] <astro76> shiester_miester, sure they are, just because root account is disabled... sudo still gives you root priveleges
[08:00] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, yea i was thinking the same.
[08:00] <vip3rousmango> when i'm trying to mount an image, which mountpoint do i use? cdrom0, or cdrom1?
[08:00] <shiester_miester> grazed, definitely make a backup of it first, and figure out the syntax that it uses
[08:00] <outer> It's just the Thunderbird 2 folder
[08:00] <outer> Theres lots of files in it.
[08:00] <shiester_miester> grazed, figure out the xorg.conf syntax before you go messing with it :P
[08:00] <preaction> Ademan: theoretically you could make your own virtual machines using one of the VM packages available (which would be more in-line with solaris containers)
[08:00] <grazed> got ya
[08:00] <bruenig> Zack, you were talking about dragging and dropping files as a regular user and then have a password dialog come up offering you to switch to root, this is much more difficult because the gksudo setup is not universal across linux distros and so that sort of functionality would break different types of configuration that have root users and don't use sudo
[08:00] <shiester_miester> outer, yes, there are. one of them is a file that runs thunderbird
[08:01] <bruenig> outer, move the entire directory to /opt
[08:01] <shiester_miester> bruenig, why?
[08:01] <Zack> Ok question! Does everybody else see a HUGE white box over almost all of www.toyota.com ?   bruenig i get it now
[08:01] <bruenig> shiester_miester, that is what the filesystem dictates
[08:01] <Ademan> preaction: yeah true, so i guess it avoids bad code by virtue of being a virtual environment... i guess... probably in combination with a chroot i guess
[08:01] <shiester_miester> i just shoved mine in the home directory :/
[08:01] <james296> I really would like to know what to do to change the System Update icon in Synaptic...
[08:01] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: or, leave Windows about 10-20gig partition, which is plenty for Quickbooks, IE, and Office(which quickbooks really needs), and then assign the rest of the hard drive to Ubuntu.., and dual boot xp and ubuntu.., and just boot XP when quickbooks is needed, but vmware is probably more practical.
[08:01] <Newbie_Dude> Anyone know where to get build-essential, linux-headers-ARCH, fakeroot" I checked Synaptic and didn't find any of those, this modem driver thing says I need those to build. :(
[08:02] <bruenig> Zack, yeah bad flash
[08:02] <james296> because when I replaced the old icon, it still is not changed
[08:02] <astro76> vip3rousmango,  neither, mount it somewhere else like /mnt, or /media/whatever
[08:02] <preaction> Ademan: not exactly, there is no chroot because it's a different server (it's a Virtual machine)
[08:02] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, thanks
[08:02] <quaal> dont think i want a dual booting situation though
[08:02] <kairu0> mdadm question: my root partition is on hda1, and i have a software raid1 setup with /sda1+sdb1. if hda1 dies will i have trouble importing the raid into a new installation?
[08:02] <varka> bruenig: since when are we talking about linux distros in common, i thought ubuntu is still the topic?!
[08:02] <shiester_miester> quaal, yeah dual booting sucks
[08:02] <quaal> vmware
[08:02] <Ademan> preaction: ah
[08:02] <Zack> bruenig: see thats what i was trying to fix! i have been following a bug report and someone said that when they installed this latest version of flash it was fixed!
[08:02] <vip3rousmango> Zack: I also see a massive white block, it seems their flash-header isn't loading like they'd want it too =b
[08:02] <bruenig> shiester_miester, technically stuff like firefox and thunderbird are supposed to be in /opt, I know other distros like arch actually have the package manager put them in there, most distros however try to fit it in to the /usr scheme of things with bin and lib and whatnot
[08:02] <Brent> Hello everyone
[08:02] <bruenig> Zack, you should be fine on other pages like youtube
[08:02] <shiester_miester> gday Brent
[08:02] <DrkCodeman> what is good software to capture applications?
[08:02] <outer> About OPT, apparently I don't have permission to write to that folder.
[08:03] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, .NET
[08:03] <Zack> There are many flash websites like this, www.samsung.com  ect.
[08:03] <vip3rousmango> astro76: wait what, I can mount to any folder i want?!
[08:03] <preaction> Ademan: a chrooted program could still theoretically take up all the resources of the kernel, could crash things. the only thing it cannot do is access any files that exist outside of / (because to that program, they can not exist)
[08:03] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[08:03] <DrkCodeman> something like fraps
[08:03] <Brent> I'm wondering if anyone can help me with a problem I'm having. It has to do with running Ubuntu on my laptop
[08:03] <shiester_miester> !justask | Brent
[08:03] <ubotu> Brent: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:03] <vip3rousmango> Brent: just ask, if we can help we shall :)
[08:03] <Brent> I get a blank screen when I try to run it, no matter if it's a live boot or installed
[08:03] <bruenig> outer, just don't worry about it, keep it in your home directory and run the thunderbird file inside the directory
[08:03] <shiester_miester> i win!
[08:03] <vip3rousmango> damnit!
[08:03] <vip3rousmango> lol
[08:03] <DrkCodeman> shiester_miester, no like fraps but for linux
[08:03] <Nutubuntu> typester_meister ;)
[08:03] <varun00> is there some way to do a bare Ubuntu install? or at least choose what packages I want?
[08:04] <Brent> ubotu, sorry, I was trying to not "butt in"
[08:04] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, dunno
[08:04] <preaction> Ademan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot <- a good article about the limitations of chroot
[08:04] <Ademan> thanks preaction
[08:04] <Brent> oops
[08:04] <Zack> bruenig: i know but i am a automotive columnist writer and many of the sites/sources i use have this problem and i mainly work with TOYOTA AND SCION!
[08:04] <vip3rousmango> Brent: ubotu is a bot.. not human =b
[08:04] <shiester_miester> varun00, ubuntu install is pretty minimalistic as it is...
[08:04] <Zack> Scion wont even load
[08:04] <Brent> Yeah, I just realized that, sorry!
[08:04] <vip3rousmango> lol
[08:04] <DrkCodeman> anyone here know decent software for linux like fraps for capturing game feeds?
[08:04] <vip3rousmango> so are u trying to install ubuntu onto your laptop?
[08:04] <astro76> vip3rousmango, yes, by convention /mnt is used to temporarily mount things, and drives are mounted in subdirs under /media, technically it can be mounted to any empty directory
[08:04] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, what exactly are you trying to capture?
[08:04] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, audio? video? network traffic?
[08:04] <Zack> Nobody can get www.scion.com to load either correct?
[08:04] <Brent> I have tried installing ubuntu on an external drive, and also running the live DVD
[08:04] <varun00> shiester_miester: oh. I didn't realize, I guess. I'm used to all the other distros where you can individually select packages
[08:04] <outer> Thanks, do I run the "thunderbird" file through terminal?
[08:04] <DrkCodeman> i host lan parties i like to capture in game gameplay
[08:04] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, code execution?
[08:04] <Brent> it's from a cover disk
[08:05] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, ah, so you mean video
[08:05] <bruenig> Zack, send them an email telling them their site sucks, you can also get windows firefox going through wine and then install windows flash into that, that is a tad more involved though
[08:05] <DrkCodeman> yes
[08:05] <preaction> Ademan: but, again, if your friend wants the exact functionality of Solaris Containers, your best bet would be a VM solution (qemu, vmware, etc...)
[08:05] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, yeah there is one or more
[08:05] <Brent> I am able to run other distros on this machine, but not Ubuntu based
[08:05] <Brent> or so it seems
[08:05] <DrkCodeman> what are good ones?
[08:05] <Zack> bruenig: i have wine and i know how to use it i was just trying to avoid that because wine is unstable.
[08:05] <vip3rousmango> astro76: so to mount massive.img all i'd have to do is:: sudo mount -o loop massive.img /mnt
[08:05] <Ademan> preaction: yeah i dunno, he's a bit insane, he's insistent on hardening his computer which won't even be exposed to the WAN
[08:05] <bruenig> Zack, no it isn't
[08:06] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, i remember reading about them on the youtube videos about compositing software, where these apps were used to grab the video output of the compositing software like beryl and compiz
[08:06] <DrkCodeman> Lives might support it hmm
[08:06] <bruenig> Zack, wine is always running on my computer because utorrent sits in the tray so long as my computer is on
[08:06] <preaction> Ademan: i lied, here's an article about some other OS-level Virtualization solutions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system-level_virtualization
[08:06] <bruenig> and has been like that for a year or so
[08:06] <shiester_miester> DrkCodeman, i dunno what they are called though...ask someone else ;)
[08:06] <Zack> bruenig: iv had issues... utorrent? and www.scion.com isnt loadable correct? I just need to make sure im up to date and im not missing something.
[08:06] <Brent> Has anyone else gotten an ubuntu distro working on an HP laptop?
[08:07] <astro76> Brent, HP Pavillion zd8215
[08:07] <vip3rousmango> Brent: yes, Im using ubuntu on my HP Pavilion dv1000
[08:07] <varun00> I'm having trouble getting sound to work......and I'm not sure how to go about debugging it. Is there a doc/wiki page for setting up sound?
[08:07] <outer> Hm, I can't seem to figure out what command will run the Thunderbird file.
[08:07] <Zack> 80%
[08:07] <Brent> I'm using a dv6119us
[08:07] <astro76> outer, where did you untar it?
[08:07] <bruenig> Zack, there is nothing you can do I assure you, I have flash java and the works going as far as plugins, the flash is just poor, I would just roll with windows firefox and windows flash through wine
[08:07] <varun00> It looks like it's detecting my sound card properly, I just can't hear any sounds
[08:07] <vip3rousmango> Brent: does the liveCD not run?...
[08:07] <shiester_miester> Zack, www.scion.com seems to load up to 80% and then stop :/
[08:08] <jd_> hello all
[08:08] <Brent> It starts to load, I get the menu and all, but after loading some stuff, it just goes to a blank screen. I have to restart the computer to get out of it
[08:08] <shiester_miester> Zack, this is such a crappy website that i cant even begin to describe how crappy it is
[08:08] <shiester_miester> jd_, gday
[08:08] <outer> I extracted the entire folder into my Home Folder
[08:08] <vip3rousmango> Brent: does that HP have a built in ATI/nVidia card?
[08:08] <Zack> www.scion.com is actually using the latest in xml code...
[08:08] <n8of9> Does anyone here know how to swap audio channels in Edgy? (left <-> right)
[08:08] <jd_> i have a ? bout beryl
[08:08] <Brent> Yes, it's a Geforce card
[08:08] <quaal> anyone run vmware
[08:08] <shiester_miester> Zack, yeah, except that all the content is in flash...
[08:08] <Brent> 6150 Go I believe
[08:08] <vip3rousmango> Brent: Geforce what?
[08:08] <quaal> and is there a apt-get for it
[08:08] <astro76> outer, you can run it with ~/thunderbird/thunderbird
[08:09] <Brent> or Go 6150, something like that
[08:09] <shiester_miester> Zack, which completely eliminates all benefit you get from using the latest standards
[08:09] <IndyGunFreak> quaal: i'm pretty sure its in the repositories.
[08:09] <jd_> i cant get my skydome to work
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> quaal,  vmware-server in the commercial repos
[08:09] <Zack> it has been described as "internet 2.0 symbol of the future." as far as coding goes.
[08:09] <shiester_miester> Zack, and also, they are missing an <XML> tag from the start :P
[08:09] <vip3rousmango> Brent: Most likely you're missing some graphic drivers if screen goes black but kernel and everything loads up fine..
[08:09] <makuseru>  hi, i have a question about mplayer, when you do 'mplayer -dumpaudio video.avi' it dumps the audio stram out for you, is there anyway to dump only a portion of it out? just like point a to point b, instead of dumping the entire stream?
[08:09] <shiester_miester> so they arent quite as perfect as you say they are
[08:09] <vip3rousmango> !ati | Brent
[08:09] <ubotu> Brent: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <quaal> Nutubuntu, E: Couldn't find package vmware-server
[08:09] <deaincaelo> hi
[08:09] <Brent> How can I fix that?
[08:09] <bluestar> hi all
[08:09] <astro76> outer, or if you want you can put a link in /usr/local/bin which is in your path, ln -s ~/thunderbird/thunderbird /usr/local/bin/thunderbird
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> quaal,  commercial repos
[08:09] <Brent> Oops, sorry, cross post
[08:09] <shiester_miester> Zack, what a pile of crap...its in FLASH
[08:09] <Zack> tag? im just telling what has been reported
[08:10] <astro76> outer, then you can just type thunderbird
[08:10] <quaal> Nutubuntu, hmm
[08:10] <jd_> can anyone help with my beryl ?\
[08:10] <IndyGunFreak> Nutubuntu: but it is still free isn't it?...
[08:10] <outer> Thank you so much, it works.
[08:10] <bruenig> !beryl | jd_
[08:10] <ubotu> jd_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:10] <Brent> Could it be a Gnome issue?
[08:10] <deaincaelo> i'm a newbie here, i was wondering if someone could help me with xchat crashing when i try to pull up servers?
[08:10] <shiester_miester> Zack, obviously its not very good at all since it doesnt appear to work in ubuntu / firefox
[08:10] <Brent> I got PCLinuxOS working fine
[08:10] <Brent> I think that runs, KDE, no?
[08:10] <outer> Now I know how to run progreams from just extracting them, thanks a lot, seriously.
[08:10] <Zack> but it works in others.
[08:10] <Nutubuntu> IndyGunFreak,  yes, all they want from you is an E-addy
[08:10] <shiester_miester> Zack, on the other hand, my own website works in everything, so therefore it must be better than theirs :P
[08:10] <jd_> yes but i know this but my skydome does not work
[08:10] <IndyGunFreak> Brent: pretty sure, but i think there's a version that uses Gnome also.
[08:11] <shiester_miester> Zack, a real web developer is not content with his site working in "MOST" browsers...it should work in EVERYTHING
[08:11] <Zack> well thats just depressing.
[08:11] <vip3rousmango> Brent: i guess it's possible. I didn't have any issues installing linux over windows for this HP machine.. but then again your HP is much better than mine and has a lot more native drivers on it
[08:11] <Nutubuntu> quaal,  http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ I think will get you the commercial repository
[08:11] <outer> I'm going to go exploring for some software, thanks for the help everyone.
[08:11] <shiester_miester> its their own fault for using flash where its not necessary
[08:11] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester is right.
[08:11] <klobster> shout out: http:/firewater.tv best band ever.  give em your ears, then give em your money
[08:11] <quaal> Nutubuntu, thanks bud
[08:11] <shiester_miester> and not even having a html-based version
[08:11] <Nutubuntu> y/w quaal
[08:11] <Zack> I seriously need these sites and they DONT WORK.
[08:11] <necro> Anyone have an idea why samba would stop working after a power outage?  I haven't changed any settings.  Any help would be appreciated.
[08:11] <astro76> Brent, and my HP has an ATI card... I doubt it's related to kde vs gnome
[08:11] <vip3rousmango> .. and thats why no one buys a scion
[08:12] <Brent> I can't get Linux Mint or Ubuntu Studio running either, which is why I thought it was Ubuntu related. I'm looking at that site now. I hope I can understand it all! I'm still pretty much a newb
[08:12] <Bijun>  hi
[08:12] <Zack> oh well, ill try wine.
[08:12] <Brent> Ok, that's good news astro76
[08:12] <Nutubuntu> Well, that and the fact that they look like a shoebox
[08:12] <jd_> ok can any one help with skydomes in beryl
[08:12] <vip3rousmango> Brent: everyone has to start somewhere =b
[08:12] <deaincaelo> i'm a newbie here, i was wondering if someone could help me with xchat crashing when i try to pull up servers?
[08:12] <Zack> Bijun: need anything?
[08:12] <shiester_miester> Zack, it opens fine in internet explorer in ubuntu
[08:12] <bluestar> any one knows a good anti-virus for ubuntu
[08:12] <shiester_miester> Zack, oh wait...apparently not
[08:12] <shiester_miester> bluestar, www.avast.com
[08:12] <Brent> I'll read some on that site, and ask with the stuff I don't understand. BRB
[08:12] <vip3rousmango> deaincaelo: x-chat crashes when you try to bring up the sever list to connect to ubuntu server?
[08:12] <IndyGunFreak> bluestar: i think in addition to avast, there's clamav
[08:12] <shiester_miester> Zack, well, looks like it doesnt work in ubuntu at all
[08:12] <bluestar> thanks
[08:12] <Nutubuntu> bluestar,  clamav, avast
[08:12] <Zack> shiester_miester: ah! seriously!
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> which is more or less a suite
[08:13] <vip3rousmango> IndyGunFreak: you need anti-virus on linux!?
[08:13] <shiester_miester> Zack, yeah, i tried IE and it does the same thing
[08:13] <IndyGunFreak> vip3rousmango: i don't...lol, bluestar asked, so i told him
[08:13] <shiester_miester> vip3rousmango, better safe than sorry ;) there ARE viruses for linux, just less of them
[08:13] <astro76> !virus | bluestar
[08:13] <ubotu> bluestar: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:13] <deaincaelo> vip3rousmango: no, it crashes when i click irc, connect, then the server
[08:13] <Bijun>  hi ppl
[08:13] <kr00lplatinum> anyone want to help me get beryl to run on boot so, I don't have to manually start it?
[08:13] <Zack> shiester_miester: what could we/ubuntu be missing?...... theres something that we dont have that IE has.
[08:13] <pondy> Bijun, hi
[08:13] <Zack> well not IE
[08:13] <vip3rousmango> shiester_miester: true. that would just suck so much though.. linux viruses :(
[08:14] <Zack> but ubuntu
[08:14] <xerxes31415> Can anyone tell me if there's a way to get 32 bit programs and applications to run on my 64-bit system?
[08:14] <shiester_miester> Zack, its not our fault, its their own fault for making a non-compatible website
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> Zack: how about bloated code?
[08:14] <Brent> Ok, first question. It seems like I have to be IN Linux to install these drivers?
[08:14] <bluestar> do i need a firewall?
[08:14] <Bijun>  obviously
[08:14] <shiester_miester> bluestar, ubuntu has a firewall
[08:14] <Zack> Bloated code? Explain.
[08:14] <astro76> deaincaelo, you could try xchat instead of xchat-gnome
[08:14] <shiester_miester> Brent, yes, you have to be in linux to install linux drivers ;)
[08:14] <Newbie_Dude> I can't believe Conexant drivers are free for Windows but 15 bucks on Linux, slap in the face!!!
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> bluestar: its a good idea to have a hardware firewall, no matter what OS you run, but if you don't have one, then you should configure iptables
[08:14] <kr00lplatinum> Anyone want to help me with Beryl?
[08:14] <bluestar> where ?
[08:14] <IndyGunFreak> !iptables | bluestar
[08:14] <Brent> That's the problem. I can't get in to it
[08:14] <ubotu> bluestar: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:14] <shiester_miester> xerxes31415, 32bit code can execute natively on a 64bit cpu
[08:15] <Brent> It goes blank before I ever get a mouse cursor or anything
[08:15] <Zack> shiester_miester: but we should be able to adapt well enough to take in those screw ups just as Windows and Mac does.
[08:15] <shiester_miester> xerxes31415, but whether the program itself works or not is up to the program...sometimes they just WONT
[08:15] <deaincaelo> astro76: tried gnome first, then the regular. same thing. roommate suggested completely wiping it and re-installing.
[08:15] <DribblyLungOoze> how do I change the screen resolution of the login screen?
[08:15] <Nutubuntu> bluestar,  you can build a fine firewall out of an old Pentium or even a 486 ... google  smoothwall or ipcop, for example
[08:15] <kr00lplatinum> Any BERYL experts out there?
[08:15] <bluestar> thank you for your help
[08:15] <IndyGunFreak> !beryl | kr00lplatinum
[08:15] <ubotu> kr00lplatinum: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:15] <shiester_miester> Zack, the problem is that they are designed FOR windows, since its the most popular, so you won't see any problems if you just use IE in windows since the whole web is pretty much made for it
[08:15] <Zack> kr00lplatinum: i maybe able to help
[08:15] <kairu0> mdadm question: my root partition is on hda1, and i have a software raid1 setup with /sda1+sdb1. if hda1 dies will i have trouble importing the raid into a new installation?
[08:15] <shiester_miester> someone should change that link to #beryl
[08:16] <Nutubuntu> kr00lplatinum,  likely theyd' be in #ubuntu-effects or #compiz-fusion
[08:16] <xerxes31415> sheister_meister: that's what I keep reading, and there seem to be some major items out there that won't run
[08:16] <necro> need help with samba suddenly not working.  Anyone?
[08:16] <shiester_miester> xerxes31415, yep, thats why i run 32bit ubuntu on my 64bit cpu
[08:16] <xerxes31415> like boinc, skype, and flash
[08:16] <xerxes31415> ah
[08:16] <kr00lplatinum> Zack: i need to know how to get Beryl to boot on the starup. I don't want to have to launch it every time.
[08:16] <shiester_miester> xerxes31415, because the programmers just do NOT write the software to be compatible with the newer architecture
[08:16] <astro76> deaincaelo, you could try deleting your .xchat2 directory (or mv it temporarily, mv ~/.xchat2 .xchat2-bak
[08:16] <xerxes31415> that's a real pity, I might just have to do that
[08:16] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: same here... much less hoop jumping, and there's not that much of an advantage to 64bit... but you know some people, they gotta have everything.
[08:17] <wyrm> hi guys, sign the petition
[08:17] <wyrm> http://www.noooxml.org/petition-es
[08:17] <Zack> sheister_miester: too bad we dont all have more of a say in the internet code
[08:17] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, system -> preferences - > sessions
[08:17] <astro76> deaincaelo, I'm not sure what xchat-gnome uses
[08:17] <bruenig> kr00lplatinum, put it in the ~/.xinitirc
[08:17] <bruenig> !ot | wyrm
[08:17] <ubotu> wyrm: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:17] <wyrm> NoOXML
[08:17] <Zack> ubotu startup
[08:17] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[08:17] <shiester_miester> Zack, yes!  it pisses me off daily, as a web developer, having to design for IE
[08:17] <deaincaelo> astro76: thx
[08:17] <kr00lplatinum> shiester_miester: what do i do then?
[08:17] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, add it to the list of things that start up :P
[08:18] <xerxes31415> now a different question, will I notice a change switching to 32-bit? (ignoring stuff I've installed, et al)
[08:18] <crypticpenguin> everytime i change the start up with sessions it never get saved, do i need to login under root for it to be permanent?
[08:18] <Brent> Any ideas as to why I can't even get into Linux to load my drivers?
[08:18] <Zack> kr00lplatinum l startup
[08:18] <tupa> everytime I start session in KDE the apps from the previous session are re-opened
[08:18] <IndyGunFreak> xerxes31415: probably not.
[08:18] <shiester_miester> xerxes31415, its exactly the same, but more stuff works and it will be slightly slower
[08:18] <tupa> does anyone know where the applications session/log is saved?
[08:18] <bruenig> tupa, yeah you have it set to save the session
[08:18] <Zack> ubotu l kr00lplatinum startup
[08:18] <kr00lplatinum> Zach: how do i add it?
[08:18] <bruenig> tupa, in ~ somewhere
[08:18] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, its quite easy, seriously
[08:18] <Brent> Isn't there like a safe mode in Grub or something that I can try? Maybe?
[08:18] <DribblyLungOoze> i am using Edgy Eft 6.10, with the default gnome ubuntu login screen. It always loads at 1280x1024 which my monitor doesn't support properly so it looks corrupted. How do I change the login screen to 1024x768????
[08:18] <bruenig> tupa, ~/.cache makes sense as does ~/.config just go have a look
[08:18] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, you click the "new" button
[08:19] <Zack> kr00lplatinum: read these instructions.
[08:19] <Zack> ubotu startup
[08:19] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[08:19] <kr00lplatinum> shiester_miester: I don't know linux.
[08:19] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, and then you type in the name of the app and then the command line for it
[08:19] <IndyGunFreak> Brent: you can google for the Super grub Disk, and use it to reinstall Grub.
[08:19] <xerxes31415> shiester_miester, may I PM?
[08:19] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, its not about knowing linux...please actually have a look at something and TRY it first, before saying "i dont know"
[08:19] <kr00lplatinum> shiester_miester: how do you get the command line for things
[08:19] <mhz`> kr00lplatinum, what do you mean?
[08:19] <Brent> Grub loads fine and I can select the Ubuntu OS, but I think there might have been another option there. If it's like a safe mode, should that run enough for me to get the drivers?
[08:19] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, how do you launch beryl?
[08:20] <Zack> kr00lplatinum: applications > accessories > terminal
[08:20] <astro76> kr00lplatinum, Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[08:20] <jd_> can some please help me
[08:20] <kr00lplatinum> shiester_miester: i've been on beryl home page for about a week and i don't get it. I'm a n00b to linux not to how computers work.
[08:20] <Zack> kr00lplatinum: oh that command line
[08:20] <Jordan_U> jd_, Ask your question, if someone can help they will
[08:20] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, most people in here are n00bs, including me :P
[08:20] <jd_> ok
[08:20] <IndyGunFreak> Brent: i think there's a recovery mode in your grub entries, but it will boot a command line...
[08:20] <cotyrothery> guys how do i do a bios update with ubuntu
[08:20] <shiester_miester> kr00lplatinum, so have you installed beryl yet?
[08:20] <jd_> i need help making my skydome work in beryl
[08:20] <Bijun>  u ppl should get on private chat
[08:20] <bayu_kr> help me.. i have a dvd room but i can't open a cd, i'm running on feisty
[08:20] <Brent> Yikes, I don't know my way around command line at all
[08:20] <Bijun>  this is damn messy
[08:20] <cotyrothery> I need to know
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> Bijun: what do you mean?
[08:21] <shiester_miester> Bijun, private chat wouldnt work at all
[08:21] <Madpilot> Bijun, this is pretty standard for this channel
[08:21] <DribblyLungOoze> anyone know how to change the screen res of login screen? hello?
[08:21] <Zack> shiester_miester: ill show you what he means, system>preferences>sessions> new
[08:21] <kr00lplatinum> shiester_miester: yes but i had to use automatix
[08:21] <Bijun>  too many conversations running round
[08:21] <necro> Anyone know why samba would just stop working?  I haven't changed anything?
[08:21] <Nutubuntu> actually Bijun this is a slow night :)
[08:21] <Bijun>  ppl are bound to get confused
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> Bijun: well, nobody said you had to read them all.
[08:21] <Madpilot> kr00lplatinum, autobreakitz is best avoided...
[08:21] <shiester_miester> !automatix | kr00lplatinum
[08:21] <ubotu> kr00lplatinum: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:21] <astro76> cotyrothery, bios updates are done outside of your OS
[08:21] <kr00lplatinum> Zach: do you know what command line i need for beryl?
[08:21] <Brent> I'm new here, and I'm not confused in the slightest
[08:21] <IndyGunFreak> Bijun: thats why you put the persons name you're talking to, at the beginning, so it highlights and alerts the person you talk to.
[08:21] <shiester_miester> Bijun, occasionally they do, but thats what you get in IRC
[08:21] <astro76> cotyrothery, usually either a boot floppy or some bios setups have a bios upgrade utility built in
[08:21] <Brent> Well, about the chat, that is
[08:21] <cotyrothery> astro76: i know but the scan said i need windows
[08:21] <Bijun>  oh
[08:21] <Bijun>  i'm on trillian
[08:22] <Madpilot> Brent, :D
[08:22] <shiester_miester> you just have to keep up :P
[08:22] <cotyrothery> http://scan.esupport.com/scan_step1.php?r=1
[08:22] <Bijun>  so the highlighting thing doesn't work
[08:22] <Zack> kr00lplatinum: iv had to use command lines b4 with my ipod im just trying to remember how to use them
[08:22] <Zack> ubotu command line
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command line - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <astro76> cotyrothery, is there a windows utility to do it for your mobo or something?
[08:22] <jd_> does anyone in here use beryl?
[08:22] <IndyGunFreak> Bijun: just another reason to use an actual irc client i guess
[08:22] <shiester_miester> Bijun, how about you use a real irc client
[08:22] <Jordan_U> !terminal | Zack
[08:22] <ubotu> Zack: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:22] <Zack> ubotu command lines
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command lines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <shiester_miester> jd_, i used to, until recently
[08:22] <Madpilot> ubotu, cli | Zack
[08:22] <cotyrothery> astro76: ?
[08:22] <Brent> I'm using Chatzilla, if that helps anyone
[08:22] <alienseer23> how do I mount an iso image AS a dvd? (not as a folder)
[08:22] <Bijun>  k folks i'm running
[08:22] <shiester_miester> jd_, skydomes are easy...just give it an image and it should work
[08:22] <DribblyLungOoze> DribblyLungOoze: your question was well structured. Congratulations. You win first prize.
[08:22] <Zack> ubotu cli
[08:22] <Bijun>  bye
[08:22] <Bijun>  enjoy all
[08:22] <shiester_miester> jd_, just make sure the image is in one of the formats it accepts
[08:22] <cotyrothery> I really need a bios update
[08:22] <jd_> no not that easy it wont work
[08:22] <shiester_miester> cya Bijun
[08:23] <cotyrothery> mine has not been updated since 02
[08:23] <shiester_miester> jd_, why not?
[08:23] <Madpilot> Zack, the bot seems to have some lag here
[08:23] <cotyrothery> and i dont know how with ubuntu
[08:23] <Nutubuntu> that was nice of him to come in just to tell us he's confused :)
[08:23] <shiester_miester> ive never updated mine :O
[08:23] <shiester_miester> lol
[08:23] <Zack> jordan_u: not that kind of command line,
[08:23] <cotyrothery> its good to
[08:23] <jd_> when i try to use a pic it just turns the dome white
[08:23] <IndyGunFreak> Nutubuntu: lol, kinda what i was thinking
[08:23] <Brent> I'm going to try a reboot and see what is available in my Grub, and I'll come back if/when I have problems. Thanks so much for helping me so far guys
[08:23] <Jordan_U> Zack, What kind of command line?
[08:23] <Brent> and gals, if there are any,
[08:23] <shiester_miester> jd_, is it in a format that beryl can open?
[08:23] <shiester_miester> no worries, Brent
[08:23] <jd_> png
[08:23] <Madpilot> !botsnack
[08:23] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:23] <Nutubuntu> I mean, in case I was wondering, now I know :)
[08:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, cli | Zack
[08:23] <ubotu> Zack: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[08:23] <shiester_miester> jd_, i think it opens that :/ try it in a different format
[08:24] <DribblyLungOoze> beryl sux anyhow.....
[08:24] <shiester_miester> no way
[08:24] <Zack> TO ALL: we need to know how to get a command line to add a program to start up.   Thanx.
[08:24] <shiester_miester> compiz-fusion is better, though
[08:24] <IndyGunFreak> cotyrothery: i'm pretty sure you update your bios in U buntu, the same way you do w/ windows, but 've not flashed my bios ever, in about 3yrs
[08:24] <TiMiDo> hey i have a question im getting this error while running dpkg-reconfigure -a dpkg: ../../src/packages.c191 process_queue assertion dependtryB <=  4 failed any errors
[08:24] <jd_> is there a apt get thing for compiz
[08:24] <DribblyLungOoze>  i am using Edgy Eft 6.10, with the default gnome ubuntu login screen. It always loads at 1280x1024 which my monitor doesn't support properly so it looks corrupted. How do I change the login screen to 1024x768????
[08:24] <Pie-rate> if i install Ubuntu on my external hard drive and move it to an entirely different system (still x86 though) will it still function properly?
[08:24] <TiMiDo> any ideas?
[08:24] <shiester_miester> Zack, well you figure out what it is from a shortcut, usually
[08:24] <Jordan_U> Zack, What is the name of the command?
[08:24] <cotyrothery> IndyGunFreak: so were and how would i do this
[08:24] <shiester_miester> jd_, yes there is, i think
[08:24] <TiMiDo> how can i fixed this problem
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> cotyrothery: well, first and foremost, why?... its a fairly risky procedure, so if you don't need to do it, i wouldn't bother
[08:25] <jd_> how do i go about finding this then
[08:25] <Zack> jordan_u: that is what were trying to figure out, were trying to get beryl to start on startup
[08:25] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, No, but the few problems can be fixed
[08:25] <Madpilot> cotyrothery, a lot of motherboards have BIOS flashing independant of the OS - for my Asus board, you just have to dump the new bios file onto a floppy and restart the box
[08:25] <Jordan_U> Zack, beryl-manager
[08:25] <shiester_miester> jd_, ask them in #opencompositing, thats the compiz-fusion specific channel
[08:25] <Zack> kk
[08:25] <cotyrothery> Mine is a phenox
[08:25] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: can it be made portable?
[08:25] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: thats how my MSI board is also.
[08:25] <shiester_miester> as long as beryl-manager starts up on startup :P
[08:25] <jd_> thank you very much ill try that
[08:25] <Zack> thanks!
[08:25] <DribblyLungOoze> yada yada yada... ?
[08:25] <Newbie_Dude> How do I "Copy" something from the Terminal? Control-C doesn't work. :P
[08:25] <cotyrothery> http://www.phoenix.com/en/About+Phoenix/Learn+About/BIOS+Updates/Default.htm
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> cotyrothery: that really has nothing to do with it, you need the make/model # of your motherboard.
[08:26] <TiMiDo> hey i have a question im getting this error while running dpkg-reconfigure -a dpkg: ../../src/packages.c191 process_queue assertion dependtryB <=  4 failed any ideas?
[08:26] <Nutubuntu> By the time my BIOS needed flashing I needed a new rig, the last two times :)
[08:26] <shiester_miester> blah blah blah...?
[08:26] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Sort of, depends on what you need and how much time you are willing to spend
[08:26] <IndyGunFreak> cotyrothery: why are you wanting to updating your BIOS?
[08:26] <necro> shiester: any idea why samba would just stop working?  I've restarted it and still no go.  Haven't changed any settings.
[08:26] <Guest24362> HOLA
[08:26] <arooni> where is the sources.list file found?
[08:26] <shiester_miester> hey, Guest24362
[08:26] <Guest24362> HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
[08:26] <Nutubuntu> arooni,  /etc/apt
[08:26] <Jordan_U> arooni, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:26] <shiester_miester> !hi | Guest24362
[08:26] <Zack> Guest24362: what do you need?
[08:26] <ubotu> Guest24362: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:27] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: i want to be able to take it with me, use it on arbitrary machines at school, use it at work, friend's house, etc.
[08:27] <Newbie_Dude> Anyone know how to "Copy" something from Terminal? Control-C and Control-Shift-C did something that was not copy...
[08:27] <mhz`> dallas is how many hours behind EST? 2?
[08:27] <cotyrothery> IndyGunFreak: because im not able to boot from usb without it
[08:27] <DribblyLungOoze> dribble........
[08:27] <cotyrothery> plus my bios firmeware is old
[08:27] <Zack> mhz': yes
[08:27] <Guest24362> :)
[08:27] <TiMiDo> hey i have a question im getting this error while running dpkg-reconfigure -a dpkg: ../../src/packages.c191 process_queue assertion dependtryB <=  4 failed me salio este error
[08:27] <Madpilot> cotyrothery, that page specifically says that phoenix don't actually provide bios support, or actually make motherboards -so who made your actual mobo?
[08:27] <mhz`> ok, ty
[08:27] <TiMiDo> any ideas?
[08:27] <IndyGunFreak> cotyrothery: i'm just saying, flashing the bios, if something gos wrong, can be a gigantic pain the ass to fix, so if you don't absolutely have to do it, i wouldn't.
[08:27] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: if there's a good video card available i want the restricted drivers manager to see it and get the restricted drivers for it, and be able to play games
[08:27] <Zack> Guest24362: Any questions? do you need help with anything??
[08:27] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Easiest way to make a portable system would be use the instructions for a persistent flash drive
[08:27] <shiester_miester> cya everyone!
[08:27] <DribblyLungOoze> TiMiDo: dribbbble...... dribble.....
[08:28] <Nutubuntu> Be well, shiester_miester
[08:28] <vip3rousmango> later shiester_miester
[08:28] <IndyGunFreak> shiester_miester: take care
[08:28] <TiMiDo> DribblyLungOoze: ?
[08:28] <Zack> later
[08:28] <shiester_miester> aww!
[08:28] <Zack> shiester
[08:28] <r0b-> !ops
[08:28] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:28] <necro> Can anyone give me a quick hand with samba plz!@
[08:28] <cotyrothery> IndyGunFreak: well either way i am planing on buying  a new mobo
[08:28] <DribblyLungOoze> TiMiDo: .......blblbbbb.... dribbbbbble... ?
[08:28] <IndyGunFreak> cotyrothery: well, proceed at your own risk, but my guess is, they have fairly clear instructions on their site
[08:28] <gnomefreak> ?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, X is getting to the point where you can do that on most machines by simply not having an xorg.conf
[08:28] <nixternal> r0b-: ?
[08:29] <TiMiDo> how do i turn my root on
[08:29] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: i know, but what other things might cause problems?
[08:29] <Zack> Anyone need help?
[08:29] <Nutubuntu> !root | TiMiDo
[08:29] <ubotu> TiMiDo: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password.   No changes I made.
[08:29] <vip3rousmango> TiMiDo: use sudo <command>
[08:29] <togr> TiMiDo, sudo works in terminal
[08:29] <Zack> ubotu samba
[08:29] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:30] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, The fstab might have problems though it really shouldn't matter now that Ubuntu uses UUID's ( at least / will be mounted correctly )
[08:30] <TiMiDo> togr: what if  i want to set a password for root
[08:30] <TiMiDo> how would i do it?
[08:30] <DribblyLungOoze> haha
[08:30] <togr> TiMiDo, you don't
[08:30] <SlickMcRunfast> Does anyone know whats going to be new in tribe 3 next week?
[08:30] <necro> Zack: it was working fine, then a power outage, and now, nuthin'.  I've restarted samba and still nothing.
[08:30] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, The think that I don't know how to make portable would be grub
[08:30] <togr> read what ubotu told you
[08:30] <Zack> what kind of windows environment are you trying to use? connecting to another computer on the network?
[08:30] <vip3rousmango> SlickMcRunfast: tribe 3 is out next week?!?!
[08:30] <IndyGunFreak> SlickMcRunfast: #ubuntu+1
[08:30] <SlickMcRunfast> 19th
[08:30] <necro> Zack: yes, an xp machine.
[08:30] <DribblyLungOoze> anyone been able to work out how to change login screen res yet?
[08:30] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, When creating a live flash drive you use syslinux instead
[08:31] <Newbie_Dude> What's easier to use, XChat IRC Client or XChat-GNOME IRC Chat?
[08:31] <necro> Zack: like I said, I didn't change ANYTHING.
[08:31] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: when ubuntu is installed what is actually configured for the machine that it is installed on, apart from xorg/fstab?
[08:31] <Pie-rate> TiMiDo: its possible but i wouldn't recommend it.
[08:31] <vip3rousmango> Newbie_Dude: there pretty much the same client
[08:31] <Zack> necro: ok that would be XP. your XP is booted right?
[08:31] <Madpilot> Newbie_Dude, XChat-gnome is the crippled, useless version; use XChat instead
[08:31] <IndyGunFreak> cotyrothery: did you see that warning in red letters on that site?
[08:31] <cotyrothery> the only reason for me wanting to update my bios is because in hope of being able to boot image files from my usb flash at start
[08:31] <necro> Zack: yes
[08:31] <Zack> necro: signed in? and can it get on the internet?
[08:31] <Newbie_Dude> Thanks, I'll get X-Chat.
[08:31] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: lol, not sure i'd call it crippled, but xchat is better(I actually prefer xchat-gnome's interface)
[08:31] <necro> Zack: yep
[08:31] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: well i'm going to just change the bios on the machines i'm using to boot from my external hard drive, so it'll use GRUB on the external's boot sector, right?
[08:32] <necro> Zack: I believe it's a permission problem, lemmie check..
[08:32] <Newbie_Dude> Should I pony up $15 to Linuxant to provide a Conexant dialup modem driver?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, grub.... /etc/networking/interfaces ( though that doesn't matter now with network manager )
[08:32] <Spaceman3750> xChat annoys me...  I use Chatzilla for FireFox
[08:32] <Zack> necro: ok so when you start/ try to start samba what happens?
[08:32] <IndyGunFreak> chatzilla?..lol, talk about annoying
[08:32] <vip3rousmango> Konversation with a custom colour scheme to make it easyer on the eyes.. works wonders
[08:32] <cotyrothery> IndyGunFreak: i know the risk
[08:32] <necro> Zack: checking....
[08:32] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Grub will load, whether it will actually boot is another question
[08:32] <Zack> necro: ok
[08:32] <IndyGunFreak> cotyrothery: thatsn ot my point, its telling you to contact your computer or motherboard manufacturer.
[08:33] <IndyGunFreak> so thats who you need to call/who's site you need to go to.
[08:33] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: exactly, this is why i'm asking this. the addition of the restricted drivers manager and network manager and latest xorg theoretically makes a portable system possible
[08:33] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: anyway, why wouldn't it boot?
[08:33] <DribblyLungOoze> how I changen 'em screen rezzolooshun on loggin skreeeeen???
[08:33] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: is there any way i can just switch out the bootloader after installing?
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> DribblyLungOoze: why don't you try speaking in english
[08:34] <arooni> help folks1
[08:34] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Because while the external drive may be (hd1) on your comp it could be (hd2) on another
[08:34] <necro> Zack: it sez...."\blah\Music is not accessible.  You may not have permission blah blah.  Network access is denied."
[08:34] <Spaceman3750> Is there any way I can make it so limited users can access the Windows partition?  Right now only administrators can, and it's annoying...
[08:34] <cotyrothery> The only thing i want to really do is be able to start a iso image at boot off my psp flash
[08:34] <arooni> i get "E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header'" wheneve ri try to install something
[08:34] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: ok, so how do i change the boot loader out?
[08:34] <DribblyLungOoze> IndyGunFreak: english didn't work...
[08:34] <Zack> necro: it says that on ur linux or windows?
[08:34] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: your trying to intall linux on ur PSP?
[08:34] <IndyGunFreak> DribblyLungOoze: well, neither will sounding like an idiot, maybe nobody here knows.
[08:34] <necro> Zack: on the xp machine when trying to connect to the samba shares.
[08:34] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: no
[08:35] <cotyrothery> i want to use my psp as a flash drive
[08:35] <Zack> necro: ok are you on a wireless network?
[08:35] <necro> Zack: nawp
[08:35] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: it is a flash drive when on USB mode..
[08:35] <DribblyLungOoze> IndyGunFreak: true, but it was fun.
[08:35] <Zack> necro: ok you checked permissions on ubuntu?
[08:35] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, That's the problem, the only way that I know of ( though I am sure it is also possible with GRUB somehow ) would be to use syslinux, which would require you to use a FAT32 partition
[08:36] <necro> Zack: samba was setup for global read access.
[08:36] <necro> Zack: which is all I want working now.
[08:36] <shanjunmin> hi
[08:36] <necro> Zack: worked fine, both machines went down, come back up, and nothin'.
[08:36] <abhi_> can anyone help me with bind9?
[08:36] <Zack> necro: can you access XP from ubuntu?
[08:36] <ArtesMagae> I am pretty new to IRC (I must live under a rock, eh?) and I am a bit confused. I used GAIM to connect to this chat. When I check the room list, this chat has the most users in it. Is this only true for chats on freenode's network?
[08:36] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: yes i know
[08:36] <necro> Zack: I think so, lemmie check...
[08:36] <cotyrothery> but i cant figure out how to get it to boot anything
[08:37] <necro> Zack: yep
[08:37] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Try it though, see if it works on another comp, worst comes to worst you will have to get it to boot from the grub shell
[08:37] <Zack> necro: it actually may be your router settings.
[08:37] <Madpilot> ArtesMagae, yes - you're on Freenode's server network currently; there are lots of IRC servers out there.
[08:37] <bruenig|laptop> ArtesMagae, what do you mean, the  number of people in this room is 1023
[08:37] <Zack> I have had that problem kind of a one way street.
[08:37] <bruenig|laptop> technically channel
[08:37] <arooni> i get "E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header'" wheneve ri try to install something
[08:37] <arooni> help?
[08:37] <Jordan_U> ArtesMagae, GAIM is not great for IRC, try xchat
[08:37] <necro> Zack: hmmm....cuz maybe the ip's changed?  I do use dhcp.
[08:37] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: thats because its only storage, there is no /boot section on the USB card
[08:38] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: brb, i'm on a live cd. switching back to installed ubuntu and trying hdd on laptop
[08:38] <necro> Zack: I thot samba was working using pc "names" tho'.
[08:38] <DribblyLungOoze> Anyone worked out how to change screen res for login yet?
[08:38] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: someone tooled me they were able to do it on theres
[08:38] <ArtesMagae> Madpilot: and I would have to switch to another network to view other channels, correct?
[08:38] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: psp boots from internal mem.. not usb card, that is just for temp ram
[08:38] <ArtesMagae> Jordan: Thanks, I will have to try it.
[08:38] <Madpilot> ArtesMagae, sure, if the couple of thousand channels Freenode hosts don't cover what you need.
[08:38] <ArtesMagae> Indy: Because they have nothing else currently. :P
[08:38] <arooni> hey folks
[08:38] <Zack> necro: i believe you should check your router for security settings and your IP, it may be set to allow only certain IPs to interact which wouldnt have anything to do with samba
[08:38] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: what PSP firmware are you running?
[08:38] <arooni> can someone help me get my package manager working again
[08:38] <Madpilot> ArtesMagae, most IRC clients can connect to more than one IRC server at once
[08:38] <IndyGunFreak> ArtesMagae: well, xchat is installed with a base install.
[08:39] <bruenig|laptop> IndyGunFreak, I don't believe so
[08:39] <bruenig|laptop> !info xchat
[08:39] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[08:39] <bruenig|laptop> yeah optional
[08:39] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: im using 3.40 OE-A
[08:39] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, no it isn't - not anymore. Back in the good old days, it was.
[08:39] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: you sure?.. maybe i'm thinking of Edgy,
[08:39] <bruenig|laptop> !info xchat edgy
[08:39] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: ok..
[08:39] <necro> Zack: both pc's can access the internet, and I can see the xp machine.  The router settings haven't changed either.  The only thing that may have changed are the pc's ip's, since I am using dhcp.
[08:39] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[08:39] <bruenig|laptop> optional on edgy
[08:39] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: hmm.. ok well that does allow homebrew.. but are u trying to run a linux kernal on the psp??
[08:39] <IndyGunFreak> hmm....
[08:39] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: no
[08:39] <bruenig|laptop> maybe breezy
[08:39] <ArtesMagae> Thanks for the help with that, Everyon!
[08:40] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, xchat hasn't been installed by default since Breezy :|
[08:40] <Zack> necro: when the computers lost power, vuwala new IP and the router had the same security permissions so it like banging your head on a brick wall... you know its there but u cant get through it!
[08:40] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: you sure?.. i could have sworn xchat-gnome was installed on Edgy by default.
[08:40] <DribblyLungOoze> IndyGunFreak: gaim is the IRC supporting IM client that comes with edgy
[08:40] <IndyGunFreak> DribblyLungOoze: i'm aware of that
[08:40] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, maybe, but xchat-gnome != xchat
[08:40] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: all i want is for my mini xp usb to start at boot off of it
[08:40] <Zack> necro: which could be why you can see your XP but cant access it.
[08:40] <bruenig|laptop> !info xchat-gnome edgy
[08:40] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: i know that, but xchat-gnome is still an IRC client, and not GAIM
[08:40] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.13-0ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 296 kB, installed size 780 kB
[08:40] <bruenig|laptop> xchat-gnome was optional too
[08:40] <necro> Zack: I CAN access the xp drives from ubuntu.
[08:40] <bruenig|laptop> it wasn't installed
[08:41] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, wierd.
[08:41] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: ok, one sec. I'm gonna browse around the PSP mod site.
[08:41] <necro> Zack: and both pc's can access the internet.
[08:41] <Taco`> can someone help me with converting .wav files?
[08:41] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig|laptop: does Kubuntu have chatzilla installed by default?
[08:41] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, DribblyLungOoze is right - only GAIM, which can mostly do IRC. Badly.
[08:41] <necro> Zack: I'm checking the router settings now.....
[08:41] <Zack> necro: same goes for xp not accessing ubuntu.
[08:41] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: which one? pspupdates , psp-hacks , ?
[08:41] <necro> Zack: so what's the solution?
[08:41] <bruenig|laptop> IndyGunFreak, that is a firefox extension?
[08:41] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: hmm, coudl have sworn it was default, obviously i was mistaken...
[08:41] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: pspmod.com
[08:41] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig|laptop: oh thats right.
[08:41] <cotyrothery> ok
[08:42] <peepsalot> anyone here tried pidgin?  is it much different from the last release of gaim?
[08:42] <Spaceman3750> laptop, that's a FireFox plugin
[08:42] <bruenig|laptop> peepsalot, not really
[08:42] <Spaceman3750> I'm using it now
[08:42] <DribblyLungOoze> I've always had to install xchat separately since dapper...
[08:42] <LogicalDash> peepsalot, not much, a few UI fixes
[08:42] <IndyGunFreak> peepsalot: its purple/grey instead of blue and yellow
[08:42] <LogicalDash> peepsalot, it has a different way of showing buddy status
[08:42] <IndyGunFreak> DribblyLungOoze: guess iv'e never paid attention when I installed it.
[08:42] <peepsalot> hmm, new skin eh.  is the skin configurable?
[08:42] <arooni> help
[08:42] <Zack> i would say check security/sharing permissions with ubuntu. and check your router.
[08:42] <Ravenndude`> How can I have my terminal run a static command every time it opens?
[08:43] <IndyGunFreak> peepsalot: not sure, i've not messed w/ trying to skin it.
[08:43] <necro> Zack: I am still a bit of a linux newb.  I forgot where my samba config file is.
[08:43] <necro> Zack: I checked the router.  No problems.
[08:43] <necro> Zack: the pc's are xx.1.66 and xx.1.101
[08:43] <doms> is their as software for ubuntu that something like a chikka
[08:44] <Newbie_Dude> Sorry to ask again but no one answered. I have a Conexant Modem and the only driver I can find (for Feisty Fawn) is from Linuxant and they want 15 DOLLARS(!)... Is there some sort of generic modem driver I can use? I'm pretty desperate as modem is my only stable form of internet.
[08:44] <peepsalot> i never could get file transfers to work in gaim, is that my wrong settings, or is the program at fault?
[08:44] <DribblyLungOoze> surely someone must know where the info is stored which tells gnome to use 1280x1024 res for login screen?
[08:44] <LogicalDash> !ndiswrapper | Newbie_Dude
[08:44] <ubotu> Newbie_Dude: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:44] <Zack> necro: well then it must be linux permissions. but im in a different timezone and its 2 here. ask IndyGunFreak for any more help. He is a big help with networking. he helped me network my printers.
[08:44] <necro> Zack: K.  Thanx.
[08:45] <Zack> Indygunfreak: could you help my friend necro here?
[08:45] <doms> something free SMS
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> Zack: then i got lucky...lol
[08:45] <Nutubuntu> DribblyLungOoze,  http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/08/13/gdm-login-screen-resolution-too-big-to-fit-screen-try-this/
[08:45] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: any luck
[08:45] <doms> is their a free SMS software for ubuntu like Chikka
[08:45] <Ravenndude`> How can I have my terminal run a static command every time it opens?
[08:45] <doms> is their a free SMS software for ubuntu like Chikka
[08:45] <jh> oh
[08:45] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: booted fine on laptop. only way to really know is try it on a lot of different systems
[08:45] <Zack> Indygunfreak: could ya help him out for a lil while?
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Nice
[08:45] <Newbie_Dude> @LogicalDash: That's all WiFi, I'm using 56k modem :P
[08:45] <IndyGunFreak> Zack: getting ready to go to bed.
[08:46] <necro> IndyGunFreak: samba kinda just stopped working.  I'm a bit of a linux newb.  But just a bit.  :)  Where is my samba config file?  Trying to troubleshoot.
[08:46] <necro> doh
[08:46] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: superblock last mount time is in the future. /dev/sda1 has gone 49709 days without being checked, check forced.
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> necro: no clue, i don't really mess with printers, I assume i was just giving Zack links, and he really figured it out.
[08:46] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Did it use proprietary drivers by default?
[08:46] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: any way to stop it from forcing a check completely?
[08:46] <Zack> indygunfreak: who do you think knows networking well? its bedtime in my part of the hemisphere.
[08:46] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, It should only do it once
[08:46] <imbecile> gutsy id due out in october right/
[08:46] <imbecile> ?
[08:46] <IndyGunFreak> Zack: really no idea..
[08:46] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: uhh, wtf. it found errors.
[08:47] <necro> I have a feeling this is a pretty solvable problem.  :P
[08:47] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: try www.pspmod.com they have a lot of usefull information and tutorials. Here is for creating a boot on USB: http://www.psp411.com/show/guide/32/0/Make_your_PSP_a_Win_XP_boot_device.html
[08:47] <Zack> necro: i think it is to
[08:47] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Hopefully it will fix them
[08:47] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: that has to have been the built in hdd, i think its bad.
[08:47] <Zack> necro: brb
[08:47] <Spaceman3750> Necro, all problems are solvable, some just require fun reformatting :P
[08:47] <necro> Zack: ok, could you atleast tell me where my samba config file is usually stored.   I mean look at it - there aren't even any seats. where are we supposed to sit down?
[08:48] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Yes
[08:48] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, I thought you already did that
[08:48] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: i cant get to the site it links to
[08:48] <vip3rousmango> cotyrothery: that is down temporaily.. =\ google boot off of PSP USB
[08:49] <Nutubuntu> Night all
[08:49] <Spaceman3750> Anyone know how to make limited users able to access the Windows partition?
[08:49] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: well, it might be ugly fixing it once in a while, but i'm confident i can fix it for any computer.
[08:49] <SpiderDan> hello.  I would like to connect to a (recently reinstalled) feisty machine remotely... previously, I was able to setup and connect via VNC, but the problem with that is that I apparently have to be logged in to start that service
[08:49] <necro> astro76: thanx.  ->  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:50] <DribblyLungOoze> i better leave now before anyone actually finds an answer to my question and ruins the fabric of space/time.
[08:50] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Does it start correctly without an xorg.conf?
[08:50] <Spaceman3750> Probably Dribbly :P
[08:50] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: yep
[08:50] <Zack> necro: this page seems to be showing the same question you are asking about what xp is saying. an im sorry i dont know where the config file is. try the search. and heres the page.  http://www.samba.netfirms.com/faq.htm
[08:50] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: came right up with restricted wifi drivers in use
[08:50] <cotyrothery> vip3rousmango: i cant find a site that has a tut
[08:50] <doms> is their a free SMS software for ubuntu like Chikka
[08:50] <doms> is their a free SMS software for ubuntu like Chikka
[08:50] <Spaceman3750> How many different conversations would you say go on at any one time in here?
[08:51] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: connected with wifi immediately
[08:51] <necro> Zack: thanx so much.  Found the config file.  I will check that web page.  You can crash.  I'll see what I can do.  Thanx again for all your help.
[08:51] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: <3 feisty
[08:51] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, If you want to be tricky and be able to use legacy and current drivers for nvidia ( they can't both be installed since they conflict ) you could apt-get -d them so they are there ( no need to grab from the internet if not available ) but not actually installed.
[08:51] <Zack> necro: i am drooling on my keyboard, come back tomorrow around 3 that seemes to be when people get the most help. your welcome! ima go pass out now.
[08:51] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Also install bcm43xx-fwcutter and you will be able to use many broadcom cards
[08:51] <necro> Zack: thanx again.  g'nite.
[08:51] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: i don't plan to use it on random laptops.
[08:51] <skiver> hi all
[08:52] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, Why not ?:)
[08:52] <SpiderDan> this machine is not going to have keyb/mouse/video connected, and I need a way to be able to remotely log in to x/gnome
[08:52] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: but, if a good gaming PC comes into Computers Plus for spyware removal, i'm definitely going to stick it on there and play WoW.
[08:52] <Jordan_U> SpiderDan, ssh -X then "gnome-session"
[08:53] <Pie-rate> :)
[08:53] <SpiderDan> is ssh a default service, or do I need to enable it?
[08:53] <SpiderDan> this is a fresh install of feisty
[08:53] <arooni> folks i am trying to get the new intel video card working via   http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.04_%28Feisty_Fawn%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61
[08:53] <astro76> SpiderDan, install openssh-server
[08:53] <Jordan_U> SpiderDan, That can be a little confusing if you are already using Gnome at the time though
[08:53] <arooni> but i can't get the new video driver installed
[08:54] <Jordan_U> SpiderDan, No, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:54] <ramseize> can anyone give me the right directions on how to setup a wireless adhoc connection? :(
[08:54] <astro76> that was an English instruction not a command ;)
[08:54] <Jordan_U> arooni, They should "just work" on an intel card, the only problem you should have if any would be resolution
[08:54] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: i'm probably going to have them check the hard drive in my laptop. i'm pretty sure its dead.
[08:55] <SpiderDan> ok.  so after I install that, if I were to plug the machine into the network and ssh in
[08:55] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: hope its under warranty and installing ubuntu didn't void it.
[08:55] <SpiderDan> and I start gnome
[08:55] <Spaceman3750> Pie-rate, if it was dead, it should be fairly obvious...  Boot without the live CD and it should ask for a boot drive...
[08:55] <arooni> Jordan_U: its the vesa driver :( no 3d support........ plust i cant get the 1440x960 resolution i know that the  lcd supportsw
[08:55] <SpiderDan> do I then connect through VNC, or what?
[08:55] <Pie-rate> Spaceman3750: not dead, just bad.
[08:55] <SpiderDan> it's my understanding that X will not display correctly through SSH
[08:55] <Pie-rate> Spaceman3750: not dead YET
[08:55] <Ravenndude`> How can I have my terminal run a certain command every time it opens?
[08:56] <alienseer23> sudo mount '/home/alienseer23/Desktop/gnomebaker.iso' /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop    should mount an iso as a dvd, right? this gives me a folder, what am I doing wrong?
[08:56] <n8of9> Ravenndude`: put the command in your ~/.bashrc
[08:56] <varun00> when I use mplayer and use the "-ac hwac3
[08:56] <varun00> "flag, I get no sound
[08:56] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, No company will void your warranty for installing Linux, some techs who don't know what it is might say that it does because they think you flashed your BIOS or something but just ask for a manager if they do
[08:56] <varun00> but when I use it without the flag, the sound plays fine
[08:56] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: yeah, i know.
[08:56] <Ravenndude`> n8of9, Just put the command at the bottom?
[08:57] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: if it did i'd vote against them with my wallet.
[08:57] <n8of9> Ravenndude`: that should work in most cases
[08:57] <astro76> alienseer23,  mount [-fnrsvw]  [-t vfstype]  [-o options]  device dir
[08:57] <Ravenndude`> Thank you
[08:57] <n8of9> Ravenndude`: no prob :)
[08:57] <netyire> !chuck
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <arooni> help?
[08:58] <netyire> having problems mounting a usb disk
[08:58] <Jordan_U> Pie-rate, An apple tech tried to pull that on me, said that any other OS voided the warranty, the next day Boot Camp was released and he was eating his words :)
[08:58] <Pie-rate> Jordan_U: rofl
[08:59] <ToastGuy> Hey there guys
[08:59] <ToastGuy> I'm a newbie to Ubuntu
[08:59] <ToastGuy> I'm trying to get it installed.
[08:59] <alienseer23> astro76: sudu mount /MY/File.iso -t iso9660 -o loop /dev/dvd/ ???
[08:59] <ToastGuy> Do you need to install it on a freshly partitioned drive?
[09:00] <arooni> can someone tell me whats wrong with this preferences file in /etc/apt/preferences:  http://pastie.caboo.se/78516
[09:00] <arooni> ?
[09:00] <cntrlx> you can dual boot
[09:00] <Timon> How do I get Shockwave Player? I'm running Feisty on Gnome.
[09:00] <arooni> i get the error "E: Invalid record in preferences file, no Package header"
[09:00] <ToastGuy> Ya, but I keep getting error. And everyone points me to using GRUB, but I don't know what that means
[09:00] <bruenig|laptop> Timon, you don't
[09:00] <ToastGuy> I only have 1 hard drive
[09:00] <mister_e_au> Timon: do you mean flash, or shockwave?
[09:01] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , do you have windows too ?
[09:01] <Timon> Shockwave..
[09:01] <ToastGuy> ya XP
[09:01] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , that's why they tell you about Grub
[09:01] <holycow> there is no shockwave for linux
[09:01] <holycow> however
[09:01] <Madpilot> Timon, there is no Shockwave For Linux. Complain to Adobe.
[09:01] <mister_e_au> ok, i don't think macromedia/adobe have released a plugin that works on linux
[09:01] <cntrlx> dual boot seperate partitions
[09:01] <holycow> there is no shockwave for windows either
[09:01] <holycow> that has been killed long ago
[09:01] <ToastGuy> right... I need to make another partition right?
[09:01] <astro76> alienseer23, you went from bad to worse :P   sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>
[09:01] <holycow> you can download it but there is going to be no more shocwave dev of any kind
[09:01] <[11_Touche] > it's a bootloader, which means an application that chooses which system you want to boot when you start your computer
[09:02] <Timon> I can't even play Habbo anymore..
[09:02] <ToastGuy> but... I try running the LIVE ubunto, with no success
[09:02] <cntrlx> haha habbo
[09:02] <alienseer23> astro76, I don't need -t iso9660?
[09:02] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , absolutely. 2 systems cannot live on the same partition.. as you can't have Win98 + XP on the same partition
[09:02] <holycow> Timon, :/ sorry bro
[09:02] <astro76> alienseer23, so mount -o loop ~/Desktop/gnomebaker.iso /media/iso
[09:02] <Timon> i guess i'll have to dual-boot xp
[09:02] <ToastGuy> that makes sense.... okay
[09:02] <astro76> alienseer23, I don't think so
[09:02] <holycow> Timon, *nod*
[09:02] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , you can't even start the liveCD ?
[09:03] <ToastGuy> No I got the Live CD working
[09:03] <ToastGuy> i'm okay there
[09:03] <[11_Touche] > ok, then ?
[09:03] <Timon> ok then.. i'mma install xp bye
[09:03] <[11_Touche] > poor timon... lol
[09:03] <arooni> can someone tell me whats wrong with this preferences file in /etc/apt/preferences:  http://pastie.caboo.se/78516
[09:03] <arooni> i get the error "E: Invalid record in preferences file, no Package header"
[09:03] <cntrlx> flash components make my computer restart
[09:03] <ToastGuy> I'm just stuck with the Partitioning, I only have 1 Hard drive on this computer
[09:03] <ToastGuy> So it's hard to wipe things
[09:03] <alienseer23> still a directory
[09:03] <cntrlx> make another seperate partition
[09:03] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , that's okay.. but do your windows partition take all the place on that disk ?
[09:04] <cntrlx> and one for swap space
[09:04] <[11_Touche] > cntrlx is right
[09:04] <ToastGuy> I don't have a partition yet
[09:04] <cntrlx> but start from a fresh blank disk
[09:04] <ToastGuy> ya that's what I'm thinking
[09:04] <cntrlx> hd
[09:04] <cntrlx> i mean
[09:04] <ToastGuy> YA wipe everything...
[09:04] <alienseer23> astro76, still shows up as a directory, not a device
[09:04] <ToastGuy> I got a backup disk
[09:05] <cntrlx> thats what i do
[09:05] <ToastGuy> I don't even mind making this a completely Linux machine
[09:05] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , if you plan to use BOTH windows AND ubuntu... you should install Windows first.
[09:05] <astro76> alienseer23, it will be a directory, does ls /media/iso show files in the .iso ?
[09:05] <Haulin> or use vmware
[09:05] <cntrlx> i have debian and ubuntu
[09:05] <ToastGuy> right, but How do I get a partition?
[09:05] <kraut> moin
[09:05] <ToastGuy> When I first install Windows?
[09:05] <lion> who am i
[09:05] <Haulin> download gparted and burn to a disk
[09:05] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy ,, ok !! right choice ;) ubuntu is soooo better than windows.
[09:05] <ToastGuy> ya
[09:05] <[11_Touche] > hehe
[09:06] <ToastGuy> How do I wipe the machine?
[09:06] <cntrlx> partition your drive first
[09:06] <Haulin> anyways...how do I install a .tar.gz file?
[09:06] <astro76> ToastGuy, gparted is on the ubuntu livecd, do you have a windows install you want to keep?
[09:06] <cntrlx> with a partitioner
[09:06] <ToastGuy> I have other windows machines
[09:06] <lion> tar zxvf .tar.gz
[09:06] <Haulin> package sorry
[09:06] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , when you start the Ubuntu installation, you can tell him to take all the place on the disk
[09:06] <alienseer23> astro76, yeah, this is no problem, I can mount as a directory all day, I am, trying to get a dvd image .iso to mount as a dvd
[09:06] <ramseize> can anyone help me how to setup a wireless adhoc connection?
[09:06] <ToastGuy> ya I do want to keep it
[09:06] <lion> using iwconfig
[09:06] <Haulin> thanks lion
[09:06] <ToastGuy> but it's not important right now for this machine
[09:06] <lion> iwconfig
[09:07] <lion> to see if your wlan is found and driven
[09:07] <necro> Anyone have any idea how a power-outage would rename my drive mount points?!@
[09:07] <ToastGuy> There's no option to take over the disk
[09:07] <alienseer23> astro76, it is theonly way I know of to be able to shrink it down to dvd5 and burn
[09:07] <phoenixz> Anybody who could help me with sound problems in kubuntu? The problem being.. eh.. that there is none, its quiet..
[09:07] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , ok.. so if you plan to install windows AFTER ubuntu, you might have big problems
[09:07] <puff> Evening, at some point I remember coming across a personal search engine package for your machine.
[09:07] <astro76> alienseer23, that's how mount works, whether a device or iso, they are mounted to directories
[09:07] <lion> and iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc
[09:07] <alienseer23> damn
[09:07] <puff> Anyone know what this is called?  Beagle is one, but not the one I was thinking of.
[09:07] <ToastGuy> Can't I just Wipe the drive clean again?
[09:07] <lion> eth1 is your wlan0 card
[09:07] <ramseize> lion
[09:07] <Newbie_Dude> Does anyone know where I can get new mouse pointers for Ubuntu? I find the default ones to be not to my liking.
[09:07] <bruenig|laptop> lion, that sentence is boggling
[09:07] <alienseer23> astro76, you know of any way to get it to mount as a dvd?
[09:07] <ToastGuy> Or will ubuntu make it hard to wipe things clean?
[09:07] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , yes you can, but only if you want ONLY ubuntu on this machine
[09:08] <Jordan_U> holycow, ?
[09:08] <cntrlx> mine is ra0
[09:08] <Haulin_Coal> puff: use google desktop
[09:08] <bruenig|laptop> Newbie_Dude, gnome-look.org
[09:08] <necro> astro76: fixed it.  My power-outage SOMEHOW renamed my drive mount points.  Edited my smb.conf and bingo, back in business.  Wierd 'eh?
[09:08] <ToastGuy> Can I ever go back to XP?
[09:08] <bruenig|laptop> puff, use find locate which and whereis
[09:08] <ToastGuy> I don't mind reinstalling things again
[09:08] <holycow> ToastGuy, you can go back any time you want
[09:08] <ToastGuy> I want this more as a test for now....
[09:08] <holycow> no problem
[09:08] <ToastGuy> kewl
[09:08] <puff> bruenig|laptop: Ah, I think it was slocate.
[09:08] <ToastGuy> then no problem.... How do I wipe the drive?
[09:08] <netyire> Looking for help with mounting a usb device (works 1st time, umount it and put it back 5 mins later and dmesg displays plenty of errors)
[09:08] <ToastGuy> I want a clean install on this hard drive
[09:08] <holycow> reinstalling win is easy, and in microsoft fashion they won't even recognize ubuntu was ever there, it will just go on as normal
[09:09] <ToastGuy> kewl
[09:09] <ToastGuy> right
[09:09] <holycow> ToastGuy, for ubuntu or win?
[09:09] <astro76> necro, that's odd
[09:09] <ramseize> lion how can i config it
[09:09] <Newbie_Dude> @ToastGuy: I did the same thing. Put the Live CD in the CD drive, load it, then hit "Install" on the desktop, do "Full Disk" partitioning.
[09:09] <ToastGuy> I don't have Ubuntu yet.
[09:09] <astro76> alienseer23, don't know, sorry
[09:09] <holycow> oh what Newbie_Dude said
[09:09] <alienseer23> ok, thank you :)
[09:09] <cntrlx> use fdisk for first yoru windows partition. and limit its space on partition
[09:09] <necro> astro76: wierd 'eh?
[09:09] <ToastGuy> YA... but I get some errors
[09:09] <puff> Hm, odd, I see beagled in my ps output, but I couldn't find it in the menus.  Where does it normally live?
[09:09] <lion> to config as ad-hoc mode, right?
[09:09] <cntrlx> leave space for your linux partitions
[09:09] <ramseize> lion how can i config my wireless lan tobe an adhoc
[09:09] <cntrlx> install windows to it
[09:09] <Sonicadvance1> Is it possible to get a keyboard shortcut to run any program you choose?
[09:09] <ToastGuy> when i hit Start or Install Ubuntu I get errors
[09:09] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , Newbie_Dude is right, that's all you need to do. Ubuntu for now will take all the place.. and you will never mind going back to windows anyways...
[09:10] <[11_Touche] > lol
[09:10] <puff> Ah, Applicaitons/Accessories/Search.
[09:10] <cntrlx> then use the other space to partition ext3 and a swap partition
[09:10] <lion> I think the network-manager could do it for you if you dislike configuring it in command line.:)
[09:10] <ramseize> how
[09:10] <lion> First please left-click the network-manager tray-icon
[09:10] <ToastGuy> errrr....
[09:10] <ramseize> what should i do first lion
[09:10] <Newbie_Dude> @ToastGuy: That's not good. :P So you couldn't even install? What kind of errors?
[09:10] <ramseize> thenn
[09:10] <ToastGuy> 1 sec
[09:11] <lion> Can you see "wireless information"?
[09:11] <bruenig|laptop> network manager is an applet
[09:11] <ramseize> no
[09:11] <lion> emmm...go to terminal
[09:11] <ramseize> ok
[09:11] <ramseize> thenn'
[09:11] <lion> iwconfig
[09:11] <ramseize> yep done
[09:11] <Newbie_Dude> Anyone know where I can get free Conexant modem drivers? I can't afford the $15 per kernel from Linuxant, I've already wiped Windows from my computer, and 56k modem is my main source of internet.
[09:11] <ToastGuy> it says: can't access tty: job control off
[09:11] <cntrlx> route check if it is up
[09:11] <lion> see any wireless found?
[09:11] <ramseize> no
[09:11] <ToastGuy> then it gives me some error codes
[09:11] <[11_Touche] > ???
[09:12] <ramseize> it saiz no wireless connection
[09:12] <puff> Is there any way with slocate/beagle to search inside a file?
[09:12] <ToastGuy> action 0x2 frozen
[09:12] <lion> Then your wireless card has not been driven properly?
[09:12] <ramseize> ok
[09:12] <ToastGuy> port failed to respond
[09:12] <bruenig|laptop> puff, use grep
[09:12] <puff> I'm basically looking for a faster version of find ./ | xargs fgrep somestring
[09:12] <lion> Laptop?
[09:12] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , whew... sounds bad..
[09:12] <ToastGuy> ya no kidding
[09:12] <ramseize> now what should i do , to be detected by ubuntu, yess im using a laptop
[09:12] <ToastGuy> bad Live CD?
[09:12] <Newbie_Dude> @ToastGuy: Which version of Ubuntu did you download?
[09:12] <lion> type lspci
[09:12] <ramseize> ok
[09:12] <ToastGuy> the 7.04
[09:12] <ramseize> yes
[09:12] <Newbie_Dude> @ToastGuy: There's like an AMD64 version, an i386 version,
[09:13] <ramseize> thenn
[09:13] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , did you burn it yourself?
[09:13] <lion> Could find your wireless card brand?
[09:13] <Newbie_Dude> @ToastGuy: When the Live CD is put in there should be an option like "Check CD For Errors"
[09:13] <ramseize> w8 lion ill check it out
[09:13] <ToastGuy> I tried that.... same kind of error for me
[09:13] <cntrlx> get your router driver brad
[09:13] <ToastGuy> I got some forums that talked about this error....
[09:13] <lion> ?
[09:13] <ToastGuy> every single time this came back to  GRUB
[09:14] <Sonicadvance1> using xbindkey, can it take multiple keys to initiate a command?
[09:14] <lion> w8?
[09:14] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , maybe you don't have the good architecture, as said by Newbie_Dude
[09:14] <tigrfire> Alright, a bit of a noob question that I wouldn't normally ask. I formatted a 500GB drive today and it said afterwards 1KiB was being used. Normal, so I just formatted an 80GB and now it says 66.77MiB are in use. What the heck? Used gparted for both. Also rm -rf inside the mounted 80GB. Suggestions?
[09:14] <h4lfl1ng> sup guys
[09:14] <ramseize> lion is this it?  Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[09:14] <ToastGuy> It's a Pentium 4 HP
[09:14] <astro76> Newbie_Dude, sadly there are no other options right now for Conexant
[09:14] <lion> Oh yes
[09:14] <ramseize> thenn
[09:14] <[11_Touche] > And your liveCD ?
[09:14] <UssR> speak russia?
[09:14] <lion> w8
[09:14] <h4lfl1ng> can any1 see this?
[09:15] <lion> My card is the same with you
[09:15] <lion> yours
[09:15] <cntrlx> mines a Ralink rt2500, that was fun
[09:15] <ToastGuy> touche, talking to me?
[09:15] <Newbie_Dude> @astro76: Bummer, this poses a major problem for me and switching to Ubuntu. Hmm, 15 bucks to Linuxant or the same price for a new modem. :P
[09:15] <h4lfl1ng> i speak russia tavarish
[09:15] <ramseize> ok
[09:15] <ToastGuy> Live CD came from Ubunto.com
[09:15] <ramseize> what should i do next lion?
[09:15] <ToastGuy> downloaded
[09:15] <UssR> h4lfl1ng:
[09:15] <astro76> !ru | UssR
[09:15] <ubotu> UssR:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:15] <tigrfire> Can anyone help me out?
[09:15] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , yes... Is your live CD for i386 or 64 version?
[09:16] <Newbie_Dude> !women
[09:16] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[09:16] <ToastGuy> Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)
[09:16] <UssR> !ru
[09:16] <Jordan_U> !anyone | tigrfire
[09:16] <ubotu> tigrfire: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:16] <lion> sudo modprobe ipw2100
[09:16] <lion> sudo modprobe ipw2200
[09:16] <ramseize> ok
[09:16] <kr00lplatinum> how do i get permission to move pix in a folder that i do not have permission for?
[09:16] <h4lfl1ng> UssR, klas, ne mnoga ruskih
[09:16] <ToastGuy> I should have got   64bit AMD and Intel computers????
[09:16] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy .. and it's an original cd ?
[09:16] <astro76> UssR,    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:16] <tigrfire> Jordan_U: I did ask my question but had no response, look about a screen of text up.
[09:16] <tigrfire> Reasking: Alright, a bit of a noob question that I wouldn't normally ask. I formatted a 500GB drive today and it said afterwards 1KiB was being used. Normal, so I just formatted an 80GB and now it says 66.77MiB are in use. What the heck? Used gparted for both. Also rm -rf inside the mounted 80GB. Suggestions?
[09:17] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , is your processor 64bits ?
[09:17] <ToastGuy> hahaha
[09:17] <ToastGuy> I don't know
[09:17] <Newbie_Dude> @kr00lplatinum: I'm just a noob but I am gonna try to answer. Are these pictures from an old Windows hard disk?
[09:17] <h4lfl1ng> any audio experts? sound wont work, and card and drivers are looking good
[09:17] <ToastGuy> will windows tell me that or BIOS?
[09:17] <ramseize> lion thenn
[09:17] <arooni> why doesnt this work:
[09:17] <lion> dmesg
[09:17] <astro76> tigrfire, what are the filesystems of the two?
[09:17] <arooni> Package: *
[09:17] <arooni> Pin: release a=feisty
[09:17] <arooni> Pin-Priority: 700
[09:17] <tigrfire> Both NTFS.
[09:17] <arooni> Package: *
[09:17] <arooni> Pin: release a=gutsy
[09:17] <arooni> Pin-Priority: 200
[09:17] <arooni> in my /etc/apt/preferences file
[09:17] <ramseize> lion ,what?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> tigrfire, A certain amount of space is required for the file system itself
[09:17] <lion> dmesg
[09:17] <lion> type dmesg
[09:17] <ramseize> ok
[09:17] <tigrfire> Right, but why the huge difference for the two drives?
[09:17] <ramseize> ok thenn
[09:17] <kr00lplatinum> Newbie_Dude did you get that?
[09:17] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , hit Winkey+Pause/break on your keyboard, and check your computers propreties
[09:18] <lion> iwconfig
[09:18] <lion> driven now?
[09:18] <ToastGuy> Winky???
[09:18] <ToastGuy> what?
[09:18] <ramseize> whats driven?
[09:18] <ToastGuy> lol
[09:18] <lion> type iwconfig
[09:18] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , WinKey, the key between CTRL and ALT
[09:18] <lion> wl card found?
[09:18] <ramseize> w8
[09:18] <astro76> tigrfire, the 66MB sounds right, the 1KB doesn't actually
[09:18] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , the windows key
[09:19] <tigrfire> I've written a couple hundred GBs to that drive without any problem since its formatting.
[09:19] <ToastGuy> ah....
[09:19] <ramseize> lion ,w8 ill check it
[09:19] <Newbie_Dude> i didn't see anything man, lol
[09:19] <lion> OK
[09:19] <h4lfl1ng> anyone?
[09:19] <ToastGuy> lemme pull up windows
[09:19] <phoenixz> Hey all, how do I specify that a certain ALSA device must be used in for example amarok?
[09:19] <ToastGuy> okay done...
[09:19] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , are you on the liveCD right now ?
[09:19] <ramseize> lion, what should i look for the etho or etho1
[09:20] <Newbie_Dude> @kr00lplatinum: I tried to drag files from an old WIndows-formatted hard drive to my new Ubuntu partitions and it didn't work. Turns out I have to use some program called umm... Gah, what's it called, to deal with partitions. :P
[09:20] <h4lfl1ng> i have a gateway 4535
[09:20] <lion> does iwconfig report any wireless card found?
[09:20] <ToastGuy> no I'm in Windows Now
[09:20] <ramseize> nope
[09:20] <lion> http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[09:20] <ToastGuy> lol... do I need to be in Live CD?
[09:20] <n8of9> *yawn* later, all.
[09:20] <lion> goto this site
[09:20] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , no!! in windows
[09:20] <ramseize> ok
[09:20] <interfear> what does it mean to install ubuntu and use LVM during the partition portion of the install?
[09:20] <ramseize> whats the site?
[09:20] <ToastGuy> ya I'm in windows
[09:20] <ToastGuy> Ya
[09:20] <vip3rousmang0> anyone know a program similar to Sony's SoundForge 7? Or know if SF7 can run in wine?
[09:20] <tigrfire> Hmm, now that I review the drive though, I've copied just slightly less to it than what's being used by it [the 500GB] . It definitely said 1KiB free after formatting but perhaps after I rebooted or refreshed gparted, this changed..
[09:20] <ToastGuy> I follow
[09:20] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , so the key combination did pull out a properties window ?
[09:21] <ToastGuy> ya
[09:21] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , ok so, for you processor, what is wrote?
[09:21] <ramseize> ok lion illl check it out
[09:21] <lion> Good luck
[09:21] <ramseize> thanx
[09:21] <astro76> interfear, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/whatisvolman.html
[09:21] <tigrfire> ToastGuy, It will be the first entry under the Computer: section
[09:21] <kr00lplatinum> Newbie_Dude i'm trying to get a pic i dl to go into beryl
[09:22] <ToastGuy> It say 256 RAM, 1.79 GHz, Pentium 4 CPU 1.80 GHz,
[09:22] <[11_Touche] > ok so you should have the right CD ... kinda weird
[09:22] <tigrfire> ToastGuy, with the same window open, can you go to the hardware tab, then click Device Manager
[09:22] <CodeMagic> I need a howto for making knetworkmanager to auto connect to my wifi network via wap connections. Anyone?
[09:22] <tigrfire> Although I don't think there
[09:22] <doms> is their chikka for linuxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[09:22] <tigrfire> is a 64-bit 1.80 P4..
[09:23] <ToastGuy> ok
[09:23] <ToastGuy> checking
[09:23] <tigrfire> In that window, expand the processors section
[09:23] <ToastGuy> ok
[09:23] <happyface> Sound isn't working in wine... Is there a way to set wine's default sound card?
[09:23] <tigrfire> Any more specific there?
[09:23] <doms> is their chikka for linuxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[09:23] <Flannel> !repeat | doms
[09:23] <ubotu> doms: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:23] <ToastGuy> what next?
[09:23] <astro76> doms, first result in google http://www.chikka.com/java.html
[09:23] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , what's there?
[09:24] <ToastGuy> I'm in the device manager
[09:24] <Newbie_Dude1> OK, I finally downloaded "Konversation," anyone know how to gag the "left the channel" "enters the room" messages?
[09:24] <Flannel> doms: chikka is apparently interoperable with Google Talk.
[09:24] <tigrfire> In that window, expand the processors section
[09:24] <Rat409> tigrfire: winecfg iirc
[09:24] <ToastGuy> list of everything
[09:24] <tigrfire> Rat409, ?
[09:24] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , ok then click on the processor section
[09:24] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , and tell me what's in there
[09:24] <Rat409> open gnome-terminal type winecfg
[09:24] <ToastGuy> Says Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80
[09:25] <[11_Touche] > No 64 mentionned?
[09:25] <ToastGuy> nah
[09:25] <tigrfire> [11_Touche] , There's not a 64-bit 1.80 GHz P4, I'm almost certain.
[09:25] <ToastGuy> nah
[09:25] <[11_Touche] > tigrfire , I would agree with you.. but it wasn't a worth to check out to be sure
[09:25] <happyface> Sound isn't working in wine... Is there a way to set wine's default sound card?
[09:26] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , well, you have a hell of a problem here
[09:26] <ToastGuy> lol
[09:26] <ToastGuy> You think?
[09:26] <banlieue> wb banlieue
[09:26] <ToastGuy> I should just try the other install
[09:26] <astro76> happyface, run winecfg and set it to alsa
[09:26] <astro76> happyface, in the audio tab
[09:26] <Rat409> happyface: open gnome-terminal type winecfg
[09:26] <happyface> astro76: but Steam games wont run in alsa
[09:26] <tigrfire> [11_Touche] , Plus, probably, any 64 bit chip would be more explanative in the System Properties window, now that I think of it.
[09:27] <meglo> wine -x setarch i386
[09:27] <meglo> errr
[09:27] <varun00> anyone know where I can download mplayer-custom from?
[09:27] <Newbie_Dude1> Anyone familiar with Konversation (The IRC client)?
[09:27] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , if you have an original CD, and it isn't working with your system... your kinda.. fisted ;)
[09:27] <varun00> or what I have to add to my sources.list?
[09:27] <ToastGuy> nah..
[09:27] <ToastGuy> it's what I downloaded from Ubuntu.com
[09:27] <Newbie_Dude1> @ToastGuy: Did you download the AMD64 version or the i386 version?
[09:28] <[11_Touche] > Okay... well, you should try to burn it back again..
[09:28] <ToastGuy>
[09:28] <ToastGuy> Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM) 64bit AMD and Intel computers Sun UltraSPARC based
[09:28] <ToastGuy> oops
[09:28] <ToastGuy> Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)
[09:28] <[11_Touche] > and get sure that it's really an i386 version
[09:28] <astro76> varun00, what is mplayer-custom?
[09:29] <[11_Touche] > Maybe it's only an burning bug..
[09:29] <Newbie_Dude1> I love Ubuntu but this modem driver thing makes me so frustrated. >_<
[09:29] <ToastGuy> hahaha... I don;t know
[09:29] <ToastGuy> I should try this again
[09:29] <[11_Touche] > well when it says x86, it should work on yours
[09:29] <varun00> astro76: supposed to be a precompiled version of mplayer, with support for a lot of other codecs
[09:29] <ToastGuy> I downloaded the x86
[09:30] <ToastGuy> why not the 64?
[09:30] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , that's what I would do... I had a similar problem with an installation CD for mandriva 2007
[09:30] <ToastGuy> What about Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[09:30] <Newbie_Dude1> Anyone ever had a problem with getting no sound out of onboard ASUS motherboard? Worked fine in windows, it's not my volume sliders.
[09:30] <CodeMagic> Newbie_Dude1, what KIND of sound card?
[09:30] <Newbie_Dude1> @ToastGuy: The 64 is for AMD processors (You have Intel, not AMD)
[09:30] <doms> Flannel: can i download google talk to ubuntu
[09:30] <Rat409> ToastGuy: coulda been a corrupt download or a bad burn also
[09:30] <ToastGuy> okay
[09:30] <Flannel> ToastGuy: Get the alternate CD, it's more robust
[09:30] <[11_Touche] > but.. I couldn't even get it to run... because it wasn't the LiveCD.. and the installation was crashing every since I tried to boot it
[09:30] <ToastGuy> it's a little older
[09:31] <Newbie_Dude1> @CodeMagic: Errr, onboard ASUS... Used to use a program suite called "CMEDIA" on Windows.
[09:31] <ToastGuy> ??
[09:31] <ToastGuy> What about wiping my computer clean?
[09:31] <ToastGuy> What will happen on install?
[09:31] <ToastGuy> possibily?
[09:31] <CodeMagic> Newbie_Dude1, from terminal window type: sudo lspci  and tell me what if any, it says for sound card
[09:31] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , maybe the same problem..
[09:31] <Rat409> ToastGuy: best to use a checksum, meaning md5sum tool,theres free ones for windows
[09:31] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , or maybe success...
[09:32] <[11_Touche] > lol
[09:32] <ToastGuy> but the problem I'm getting has nothing to do with my current OS?
[09:32] <Flannel> doms: google talk uses jabber, and there are a plethora of jabber clients for linux.  So, while you won't have actual google talk, You can still talk with them without a hitch
[09:32] <ToastGuy> The install should help me determine where I want it?
[09:32] <Rat409> ToastGuy: you can't run it from within windows,put it in try and reboot
[09:32] <ToastGuy> ie, partition
[09:32] <ToastGuy> Nah, I haven't done htat
[09:33] <Newbie_Dude1> CodeMagic: It doesn't say anything about sound. It says about memory controllers, NVidia PCIE bridges, ethernet controller, AMD64 processor, nothing about sound.
[09:33] <ToastGuy> Ya, I've done all that
[09:33] <ToastGuy> I'm just getting a nasty error
[09:33] <doms> Flannel: is jabber has a room list like gaim
[09:33] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , I tried a fresh install, and an install over XP, and an install BESIDE XP, and never got any problems... AND Ubuntu searches for your DocumentsAndSettings folder, and proposes you to import it in your home directory on Ubuntu.. really great thing
[09:33] <Newbie_Dude1> @ToastGuy: Dude just download the program and try to burn it again. :P When you restart do a "Check CD Integrity"
[09:33] <astro76> Flannel, Gaim does Jabber
[09:33] <astro76> Gaim does everything
[09:33] <Flannel> doms: Jabber is a protocol.  GAIM does jabber, like astro76 just said.  And so do many other things.
[09:34] <ToastGuy> Ya... I can't even check CD Integrity on my Current Download.....
[09:34] <ToastGuy> Thanks Guys!!!
[09:34] <ToastGuy> I really appreciate this help!!!!!
[09:34] <Rat409> Newbie_Dude1: try in terminal cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#*
[09:34] <Newbie_Dude1> @ToastGuy: Don't give up, this Ubuntu thing is fun and challenging. :P
[09:34] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , we really like to help people out;)
[09:34] <ToastGuy> I'm already hooked on the open source stuff!!!!
[09:34] <astro76> Flannel, sorry meant for doms
[09:35] <CodeMagic> Newbie_Dude1, from terminal window type: lspci | grep Audio
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[09:35] <[11_Touche] > ToastGuy , you'll find a bunch of it in Ubuntu, I can assure you lots of pleasure