[12:00] <Seveas> ttrocal, then check the X logfiles
[12:00] <iratsu> Is there some software that I can use to draw molecule structures?
[12:00] <Seveas> char1iecha1k, both work fine
[12:00] <Seveas> iratsu, yes
[12:00] <Seveas> chemdraw (iirc)
[12:00] <char1iecha1k> Seveas am i right in thinking that they both can do WPA
[12:00] <sorush20> chemdraw
[12:01] <Seveas> iratsu, ghemical
[12:01] <ttrocal> Seveas: Also, on the matter of the four broken packages, the other 3 seem to be dependant on postfix.  I tried to dpkg --configure postfix and I get "invoke-rc.d: initscript postfix, action "start" failed"
[12:01] <persia> iratsu: chemtool, rather
[12:01] <sorush20> Seveas: why did you type (iirc)
[12:01] <Seveas> iratsu, xdrawchem
[12:01] <valerocar> Testing, testing
[12:01] <iratsu> whoa
[12:02] <reiki> sorush20, iirc = if I remember correctly
[12:02] <iratsu> Seveas: are these all equivalent?
[12:03] <Seveas> iratsu, no
[12:03] <iratsu> Seveas: which one do you recommend?
[12:03] <Seveas> these are just the packages i found with apt-cache search chem
[12:03] <iratsu> oh
[12:03] <DansFloyd> why is it when il ockmy screen it dosnt use the screensaver, also theirs 2 different Screensaver options in System>Preferences... why is this?
[12:03] <Seveas> iratsu, I have no experience with either of them, so I can't make recommendations
[12:04] <bamama> somebody have a link for linux-source-2.6.20 download ?
[12:04] <Seveas> there is none
[12:04] <Seveas> 2.6.20 does not exist
[12:04] <DansFloyd> anyone know?
[12:04] <red_blood> question: what's the font's directory in ubuntu?
[12:04] <red_blood> where is?
[12:04] <bamama> somebody have a link for linux-source-2.6.10 download ? :)
[12:05] <Seveas> and with apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 you can install it
[12:05] <iratsu> sorush20, persia: do you have experience with these software?
[12:05] <Seveas> red_blood, /usr/share/fonts and ~/.fonts
[12:05] <thoreauputic> red_blood: did you mean to ask, "How do I install fonts in Ubuntu" ?
[12:05] <red_blood> thanks
[12:05] <persia> bamama: As you've reported issues with apt-get, you coud also try http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.10%2Flinux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34.5_all.deb&md5sum=3c8d717bc6977b445e3b1a80327610eb&arch=all&type=security if you like.
[12:05] <pluffsy> where in the gnome gui do you setup 24 hour days?
[12:05] <pluffsy> my clock says PM and AM and other confusing stuff :p
[12:06] <pluffsy> Time & Date sounded logical but appearently not.
[12:06] <persia> pluffsy: Right-click the clock, and choose preferences.
[12:06] <Seveas> pluffsy, i'd set LC_CTIME to en_GB in /etc/environment if I were you :)
[12:06] <pluffsy> persia: darn my right click doesn't work :(
[12:06] <Seveas> but what persia said is easier :)
[12:06] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: setting up 24 hour days? Are you running on metric time or something? (/me thought days already had 24 hours *grin* )
[12:07] <pluffsy> Seveas, yours easier as long as my right click doesn't work.
[12:07] <persia> pluffsy: Oh, right, sorry.  OK, you'll need a new mouse?
[12:07] <Seveas> thoreauputic, rofl
[12:07] <pluffsy> persia, I just need mouse emulation to work :(
[12:07] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, hehe. bastard :p
[12:08] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: mwuhahahha ! *evil grin*
[12:08] <bamama> persia: tnx
[12:08] <DansFloyd> anyone know why my lockscreen isnt working correctly?
[12:09] <Seveas> DansFloyd, because xscreensaver got replaced with gnome-screensaver
[12:09] <thoreauputic> DansFloyd: is xscreensaver running?
[12:09] <Seveas> (in Breezy)
[12:09] <thoreauputic> ah
[12:09] <Seveas> this will be fixed :)
[12:09] <sorush20> iratsu: no not really it depend what software you are looking for if you a Dr in chemistry and want to feed structural data and have it model a molecule for you it would be best to talk to and expert.. just find a Dr in chem.. at some university and ask him..
[12:10] <CarlFK> who did the Ubuntu hardware database wizard thing?
[12:10] <DansFloyd> hmmm, how can i fix it?
[12:10] <crimsun> CarlFK: ogra did iirc
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Seveas: does gnome-screensaver still run the xscreensaver hacks we know and love?
[12:10] <sorush20> guys.. this is the directroy that my CD rom is trying to access will it have problems.. /home/sam/Desktop/New Folder
[12:10] <Sgep> Why is mplayer in multiverse?
[12:10] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, no ideas at all to why the emulation doesn't work? I mean not too many things I can do wrong. right? see keycode from xev and type it into /etc/sysctl.conf
[12:10] <crimsun> Sgep: licensing issues
[12:10] <CarlFK> crimsun- thanks.  I want to sugest collecting modem info too
[12:11] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: sounds logical - I've never tried it so I can't really help you, sorry
[12:11] <crimsun> Sgep: mainly, the build-dependencies that mplayer has are in multiverse due to licensing issues
[12:11] <Seveas> thoreauputic, yes
[12:11] <persia> pluffsy: Without right-clicking you can set the clock with the gconf key /apps/panel/applets/clock(underscore)screen0/prefs/format (you want 24-hour).
[12:11] <sorush20> terminal is unable to read the New Folder directory since it has a space in it.. instead it show the directory as New\ Folder
[12:11] <ogra> CarlFK, if the modem is shown in hal it is collected
[12:11] <jtan325> anyone here use the artwiz fonts? what's the safest/easiest way to install them?
[12:12] <CarlFK> hey ogra.  does that include winmodems?
[12:12] <ogra> CarlFK, if they are listed in your device manager...
[12:12] <pluffsy> persia, thanks
[12:12] <DansFloyd> seveas: is there a way to fix this?
[12:12] <Seveas> jtan325, if they're simply ttf files, drop them in ~/.fonts
[12:12] <Seveas> DansFloyd, yes. Wait.
[12:13] <CarlFK> orga - is there a place I can see pci ID's of modems that work?
[12:13] <Seveas> the devs are fixing it and you'll just have to update regularly
[12:13] <jtan325> Seveas, they're bitmap fonts
[12:13] <ogra> CarlFK, or show up in the boot log ... hwdb collects lshal, xorg.conf and your boot log
[12:13] <Seveas> you're running a development version of a distro, things like this happen.
[12:13] <Seveas> jtan325, should work too afaik
[12:13] <DansFloyd> ok...
[12:13] <DansFloyd> thx
[12:13] <jtan325> hmm
[12:13] <jtan325> i've done that
[12:13] <jtan325> but when i use gtkfontsel
[12:14] <jtan325> it doesn't show up
[12:14] <DansFloyd> Ubuntu is the best :D
[12:14] <mushroomblue> I dunno.
[12:14] <mushroomblue> still not sure if I like it as much as gentoo.
[12:14] <ogra> CarlFK, not yet... i'm still working on a SQL backend, currently the data isnt easily searchable and edubuntu doesnt leave me much time
[12:14] <jtan325> or maybe i gotta log out again
[12:15] <sorush20> guys why does this happen..sam@ubuntu:~/Desktop/New Folder$ sudo cp "/home/sam/Desktop/New Folder" /home/sam/ Password: cp: omitting directory `/home/sam/Desktop/New Folder'
[12:15] <thoreauputic> jtan325: apt-cache search artwiz  <-- easy way is install xfonts-artwiz I guess
[12:15] <Seveas> sorush20, cp -r
[12:15] <Seveas> thoreauputic, lol :)
[12:16] <Seveas> ("I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n 2.0 Build 3515") <-- how can you call a script a 'build' ...
[12:16] <mushroomblue> sorush20: don't use quotes.
[12:16] <mushroomblue> sorush20: sudo cp -r /home/sam/Desktop/New\ Folder /home/sam/
[12:18] <joakim> Ok, I really suck at this. How do I install mplayer and all existing codecs?
[12:18] <mushroomblue> joakim: I'll get you a URL. :)
[12:18] <Seveas> joakim, enable multiverse and hoary-extras
[12:18] <Seveas> and apt-get install mplayer-586 w32codecs
[12:18] <Seveas> joakim: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:18] <Seveas> joakim: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:19] <CarlFK> ogra - edubuntu sounds like something more important than me figuuring out which of these modesm I should mess with
[12:19] <Pyf> hey, is there a prgram that will organise my mp3s so they are in folders based on the albumname and band name?
[12:19] <joakim> Wow ^^
[12:20] <waterbaby999> what command can i use to make crossover office let me use office 2k3 (it says newer version of windows needed)
[12:20] <sorush20> mushroomblue: thanks.. I have a CDRW that will not read.. it read partly and misses part of the other file... how can I fix this.. also.. The I I know that a file contains Image data.. but it is an unreadable file type... eg. .dm3, How can etract the data.. I guess what I'm asking is that is there a way for me to read a non standard image file using standard image programs..
[12:20] <ogra> CarlFK, heh, i think its both important, but the hwdb isnt depending on the release schedule i have to set priorities ;)
[12:20] <CarlFK> waterbaby999 - there is a wine.conf option - something like WinVer
[12:20] <mushroomblue> sorush20: dunno. can you get it to read anywhere else? I'm wondering if it's a problem with the disc.
[12:21] <||dave||> how do i get rid of the system beep at startup and shutdown?  the shartup beep happens just before the login screen appears and the beep on shutdown occurs just after the PCI... message flashes
[12:21] <||dave||> this has happened with .04 and with .10
[12:21] <waterbaby999> CarlFK: there is?
[12:21] <CarlFK> waterbaby999 - yes
[12:22] <sorush20> mushroomblue: I should check that.. but technically what does it mean when the disk is only read partly..
[12:22] <mushroomblue> sorush20: either a) bad disc, or b) something wrong with application/driver.
[12:22] <mushroomblue> most likely, A.
[12:23] <selinium> Hi Seveas, dont know if this is a bug, but when I am using phpmyadmin in firefox, if I open a new tab, firefox-bin takes up all the cpu.
[12:23] <apokryphos> selinium: for long amounts of time?
[12:23] <nalioth_wrkn> selinium: ff is known to be a cpu hog. try using galeon or kazehakaze or epiphany
[12:23] <selinium> apokryphos, yep until I kill it
[12:23] <Seveas> selinium, i'd call that a bug
[12:23] <apokryphos> selinium: it's a bug then
[12:24] <Seveas> never happened to me though on 3 different pma version
[12:24] <selinium> lol. Who do i report it to, mozilla?
[12:24] <CarlFK> waterbaby999 - http://winehq.com/site/docs/wine-user/config-windows-versions
[12:25] <Seveas> selinium, only if you can gather more info (like a strace of the problem)
[12:25] <selinium> Seveas: strace? This is where I need to learn more!
[12:25] <poningru> selinium: report what now?
[12:26] <poningru> sorry just came in
[12:26] <persia> selinium: Is it https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137584?
[12:26] <selinium> poningru, when I am using phpmyadmin in firefox, if I open a new tab, firefox-bin takes up all the cpu.
[12:27] <poningru> hmm
[12:27] <selinium> persia: Was that supposed to be a joke? It doesn't exist! :)
[12:27] <poningru> are you using nightly?
[12:27] <selinium> poningru, not as far as I know! :)
[12:28] <erUSUL> selinium: i think that strace will not help here a debugger or a profiler maybe...
[12:28] <||dave||> how do i get rid of the system beep at startup and shutdown?  the shartup beep happens just before the login screen appears and the beep on shutdown occurs just after the PCMCIA message flashes
[12:28] <Seveas> The best bug I know is http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1
[12:28] <poningru> hold on let me ask around
[12:28] <persia> selinium: Oops!  drop the final '?': that wasn't supposed to be in the URL.
[12:29] <selinium> persia: NO, not that one. As far as i know, phpmyadmin does not use dhtml
[12:29] <selinium> erUSUL, I dont even know how to do a strace! :)
[12:30] <eric_> hello all
[12:30] <erUSUL> selinium: neither I :D
[12:30] <selinium> Seveas, ROFL @ bug
[12:30] <poningru> selinium: dude do you know if I can test that?
[12:30] <poningru> is there some place like a sandbox where I can test a phpadmin?
[12:30] <poningru> assumine its a web app type of thingy
[12:31] <HaRDaWaY> hello people
[12:31] <selinium> poningru, have yot got apache?
[12:31] <poningru> hehe no
[12:31] <zxsykco> WEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:31] <poningru> this guy is a tiny laptop cant run anything hardcore on it
[12:32] <slack7384> poningru: I once ran Apache on an old 166 MHz Pentium I 64MB RAM with Kernel 2.4.29!
[12:32] <poningru> selinium: my guess would be to download and use 1.5 beta and see if that still gives you trouble
[12:32] <selinium> poningru, phpmyadmin is a mysql admin app coded in php to run on the server.. Did that make sense! You would need to install a LAMP
[12:32] <benplaut> i wonder if my internet is on...
[12:33] <selinium> poningru, 1.5 beta of ?
[12:33] <slack7384> selinium: would XAMPP be an easy choice (after adding security of course)?
[12:33] <poningru> selinium: firefox
[12:33] <MrBoncimerl> arrakis.es
[12:33] <poningru> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/
[12:33] <slack7384> benplaut: "quote" I wonder if my internet is on: I saw your message?
[12:34] <benplaut> slack7384: good point :P
[12:34] <poningru> selinium: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/prometheus-mozilla1.8/
[12:34] <poningru> thats from yesterday
[12:35] <poningru> get the 1.4
[12:35] <mushroomblue> does anyone have a newer xmame package? 0.86 is older than dirt.
[12:35] <mushroomblue> or know where to get one?
[12:36] <red_blood> hcan i change the gdm resolution?
[12:36] <esac_> is it possible to not have my 2nd desktop programs show up in the taskbar on the 1st desktop ?
[12:37] <slack7384> red_blood: shouldn't gdm resolution and X.org/XFree86 resoloution be the same?
[12:37] <selinium> poningru, Cheers, i will see if it solves the problem. 23.36 here and I need to finish some work before bed. So i will do it tomorrow.
[12:38] <erUSUL> esac_: 's/desktop/workspace/' is not? i do not have this problem whit gnome. are you dual head?
[12:38] <red_blood> slack the gdm resolution is 1280x1024 and my desktop resolution is 1024x768, i change it, but the gdm resolution is the maximun
[12:39] <tga> howdy
[12:39] <esac_> erusul: yes, workspace. im running kde, not dual head
[12:40] <slack7384> red_blood: so you want the gdm resolution to be 1024x768 like the desktop?
[12:40] <tga> how can I have iptables forward all packages from one interface to another?
[12:40] <persia> mushroomblue: Debian unstable has a newer one, (0.99) but Breezy is in an upstream version freeze.  I don't know if the new one would compile for Ubuntu.
[12:40] <red_blood> yes slack7384 :)
[12:40] <tga> I can't set up a bridge because my wireless driver doesn't support it
[12:40] <nalioth_wrkn> tga: yes
[12:40] <tga> nalioth_wrkn, there was a 'how' in there :)
[12:40] <red_blood> if its is possible
[12:41] <nalioth_wrkn> tga: use a frontend like firstarter or something and tell it that's what you want
[12:42] <tga> nalioth_wrkn, how would you do it with iptables though? frontends tend to add a bunch of rules I don't really need
[12:42] <mushroomblue> persia: I'm trying.
[12:42] <mushroomblue> persia: found a script.
[12:42] <mushroomblue> persia: that would explain why the packages in breezy suck atm.
[12:42] <Seveas> tga forwarding all packets seems a bit weird
[12:42] <Seveas> then your pc would be a simple hub
[12:43] <tga> Seveas, I want a wireless bridge really but I can't use bridge-utils because my orinoco driver doesn't support it
[12:43] <persia> Could anyone recommend another forum where I could ask for assistance configuring xorg to use all the keys on my keyboard?
[12:43] <z|bandito> a system of mine will boot the live cd, but when i put in the install disc it says 'no os found' .. this happens with kubuntu also, and it will boot dynebolic, but also does that with the cd and dvd releases of fedora core 4... but i had successfully installed fc3 on it before.  any ideas why it would suddenly like live CD's but not like any installation media? O.O
[12:43] <mushroomblue> tga: try firestarter. it doesn't suck.
[12:43] <pippijn> hi all
[12:43] <pippijn>   tmw: Depends: libcurl3 (>= 7.14.0-2) but 7.12.3-2ubuntu3 is to be installed
[12:43] <tga> alright, will do
[12:43] <pippijn> where do I get that from?
[12:43] <Seveas> tga, sunno if this works for you, this is a NAT/internet connection sharing setup: http://kaarsemaker.net/~dennis/start_nat
[12:44] <Seveas> pippijn, don''t use 3rd party packages then :)
[12:44] <pippijn> I am going to reinstall
[12:44] <pippijn> I want to try it
[12:44] <tga> I don't want to do NAT though, I want the computers to appear to be in the same segment
[12:44] <thoreauputic> z|bandito: I've only seen "no OS found" when the machine is trying to boot to windows
[12:44] <tga> is that possible or do I need to setup an arp proxy of some kind?
[12:44] <pippijn> if I mess it up it doesn't matter as I am about to reinstall
[12:44] <z|bandito> i've also replaced the optical drive to no avail
[12:45] <z|bandito> it does it at bios
[12:45] <Seveas> tga, ENOCLUE, I'm far from a network guru, sorry
[12:45] <thoreauputic> z|bandito: iirc I fixed it by resetting the BIOS to defaults
[12:45] <slack7384> red_blood: you might have to hack your way through /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file to set the resolution?
[12:45] <z|bandito> hmm ok i'll have a look at that stuff
[12:45] <z|bandito> thanks
[12:45] <pippijn> Seveas: can I force it to accept the older version?
[12:46] <Seveas> pippijn, maybe
[12:46] <Seveas> what is tmw / where did you get it?
[12:46] <pippijn> http://themanaworld.org/
[12:47] <pippijn> they have debian packages
[12:48] <Seveas> pippijn, on breezy it will work
[12:48] <pippijn> okay.. can I get the breezy package from somewhere?
[12:48] <pippijn> it is not in pool
[12:48] <Seveas> hehe
[12:48] <Seveas> breezy is the next ubuntu version
[12:48] <Seveas> which is usable already
[12:48] <spazz> how do i install a debian package? can i?
[12:49] <mushroomblue> dpkg -i <packagename>
[12:49] <nalioth_wrkn> spazz: some debian pkgs will break your box. be careful
[12:49] <pippijn> Seveas: I don't want to use it now
[12:49] <FR500> hello
[12:49] <Kyral> Seveas, is your Repo up? The guy that maintains the build in our ITL saw me looking at the Wiki and was interested
[12:49] <pippijn> I will later
[12:49] <Seveas> kyral it is
[12:49] <Seveas> it just changed
[12:49] <FR500> is it hard to join Active Directory from ubuntu?
[12:49] <pippijn> but now I just want that package to work... can I get the breezy libcurl?
[12:49] <Kyral> ty ty
[12:49] <Seveas> I;ll update the wiki :)
[12:50] <spazz> where do i type that?
[12:50] <nalioth_wrkn> Seveas: would you be interested in offering your java deb as a torrent? i'd host it
[12:50] <nalioth_wrkn> Seveas: and your other large bandwidth sucking files?
[12:50] <Kyral> He doesn't believe you can outdo VNC on a LAN with FreeNX on a 56k :P
[12:50] <WebLOCH> Anyone awake ?
[12:50] <WebLOCH> Ahhh awesome, people that are awake!
[12:50] <Seveas> Kyral, ROFL
[12:51] <slack7384> WebLOCH: I'm awake (hand raised in the air......)
[12:51] <Kyral> I activated SSHD for FreeNX
[12:51] <nalioth_wrkn> off to work
[12:51] <Kyral> and also implemented a kickass IPTables rule to protect it :D
[12:51] <WebLOCH> I've been doing some reading to try and get my keyb/mouse set running but to no avail, I was hoping to find someone that might have an idea
[12:52] <pippijn> where are the breezy packages?
[12:52] <Kyral> I found out the IP Blocks that two computer labs I SSH from use and put an IP Tables rule into effect that only allows SSH connections from there
[12:52] <pippijn> I cant find them
[12:52] <WebLOCH> pippijn are you running hoary?
[12:52] <X7C> un decompilador deflash pa linux?
[12:52] <Seveas> Kyral, allow localhost ssh connections too...
[12:52] <X7C> !
[12:52] <ubotu> I don't know, X7C
[12:52] <X7C> sorry
[12:52] <pippijn> WebLOCH: yes
[12:52] <Seveas> X7C, english please
[12:52] <Kyral> Seveas eh?
[12:53] <X7C> messed up
[12:53] <Seveas> Kyral, freenx uses an ssh -X connection on localhost internally
[12:53] <jediborger> I have WG111t wireless network usb card and I have ndiswrapper 1.2 installed and the driver saying "driver present, hardware present" but it doesn't show up under the networking program
[12:53] <WebLOCH> pippijn, I had to do this today with the help of a friend
[12:53] <persia> pippijn: Take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes for notes.  Please note that this is the development version of Ubuntu, and is not quite done yet.
[12:53] <WebLOCH> Can I PM you ?
[12:53] <Kyral> ahh
[12:53] <Seveas> it then captures the X by emulating an X server
[12:53] <Seveas> and tunnels it via the external ssh session
[12:53] <Kyral> so I just have to add || <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:53] <pippijn> WebLOCH: what did you do? upgrade or use a package from breezy on hoary?
[12:54] <Seveas> with the super-duper NX protocol :)
[12:54] <pippijn> I need to do the latter
[12:54] <Seveas> Kyral, might be a good idea ;)
[12:54] <WebLOCH> Ahh right I upgraded from Hoary to Breezy
[12:54] <waterbaby999> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2649.html <-- that helped me with ndiswrapper
[12:54] <Enendar> is there a good linux alt to macromedia flash?
[12:54] <WebLOCH> But its a very similar process
[12:54] <Seveas> Enendar, macromedia flash :)
[12:54] <Kyral> hah its being refused
[12:54] <Seveas> (if not on ppc/amd64)
[12:54] <Enendar> oh, it has linux support? :)
[12:54] <WebLOCH> If you edit your sources list you can get a list of packages from Breezy
[12:54] <WebLOCH> And then select the ones you want specifically
[12:54] <selinium> Enendar, yep
[12:54] <pippijn> yes Enendar
[12:55] <Seveas> Kyral, what is?
[12:55] <sorush20> guys I want to be able to Install the ImageJ program from here http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/download.html, there are a few options. but non that can be used with linux which already has the JRE, what can I use..
[12:55] <pippijn> flash-nonfree
[12:55] <Kyral> I assume that the logic operators work in IP Tables
[12:55] <Kyral> Seveas, I opened a terminal and tried to SSH into myself :P
[12:55] <Seveas> hehe :)
[12:55] <pippijn> Seveas: do you know where they are located?
[12:55] <Seveas> flash-nonfree is probably in multiverse
[12:55] <WebLOCH> Anyone here fancy addressing a hardware problem ?
[12:56] <Kyral> oh wait..
[12:56] <sorush20> WebLock ask
[12:56] <pippijn> hrm no I mean libcurl3 breezy version
[12:56] <Kyral> I shut down the Daemon
[12:56] <Kyral> it wasn't even running
[12:56] <persia> WebLOCH: What sort of hardware problem?
[12:56] <WebLOCH> i have the logitech dinovo media desktop 2 and Ive upgraded from Hoary to Breezy
[12:56] <WebLOCH> And during the change over I appear to have lost support
[12:56] <erUSUL> sorush20: is the first one "JAR File (Upgrade or Unix)"
[12:56] <WebLOCH> If I load the console I can type on the keyboard
[12:56] <pippijn> I am now just downloading the package lists from breezy
[12:56] <pippijn> with apt
[12:56] <WebLOCH> but when I get to the login screen I cannot
[12:56] <sorush20> erUSUL: thanks..
[12:57] <Kyral> Okay
[12:57] <Kyral> logging from LocalHost works :D
[12:57] <persia> WebLOCH: That's not a hardware problem.  Many people reported that they needed to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf when upgrading (although I thought that was fixed).  Check to make sure you are using the kbd driver in the appropriate InputSection.
[12:58] <spazz> is there any way to search a drive like my ipod?
[12:58] <WebLOCH> persia: I dont suppose you have any source material for me to read on that.   If you don't have a special setup, you could try just running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, which ought to fix it.
[12:59] <Answer> Question: Drivers for ATI Radeon Mobility M7 ?   Device managers recognizes the hardware but some programs do not
[12:59] <WebLOCH> Okay
[12:59] <WebLOCH> Would that work from Recovery
[12:59] <WebLOCH> Or do I need to log into an X session
[12:59] <persia> WebLOCH: It should.  It won't work very nicely under X.
[12:59] <spazz> is there any way to run a search on a drive like my ipod?
[12:59] <WebLOCH> okay
[01:00] <erUSUL> !tell Answer about ati
[01:00] <Enendar> umm... where is this macromedia flash for linux (i'm not talking about the player)
[01:00] <Creart> hi all, when downloading a file, do i choose the GTK or the MOTIF version??
[01:00] <mjr> Creart, GTK
[01:00] <Creart> may i ask why?
[01:01] <erUSUL>  there is not Enendar maybe you can run it whith wine
[01:01] <thoreauputic> Creart: because motif is ancient and ugly :)
[01:01] <WebLOCH> thanks guys
[01:01] <WebLOCH> im off to try this ouit
[01:01] <WebLOCH> out **
[01:01] <Creart> fair enough
[01:01] <Pyf> im trying to install id3lib and it says to "1. Configure the source code by typing:
[01:01] <Pyf>         % sh ./configure"  when i do that in terminal it says.... 1. Configure the source code by typing:
[01:01] <Pyf>         % sh ./configure
[01:01] <Creart> ;)
[01:01] <Enendar> ::sigh:: ok...
[01:01] <mjr> Creart, GTK is a modern toolkit used by Gnome and therefore Ubuntu by default, MOTIF is an aged toolkit of which no free version was ever released, and it's quickly sinking into the sands of time
[01:02] <Seveas> mjr, there's openmotif :)
[01:02] <mjr> it wasn't free
[01:02] <apokryphos> Pyf: always read the topic before speaking in a chan. =)
[01:02] <erUSUL> mjr: now it is
[01:02] <Creart> K, thx
[01:02] <mjr> oh, is it?
[01:02] <mjr> I've apparently missed something
[01:02] <Seveas> :)
[01:02] <Seveas> it still sucks though
[01:02] <mjr> luckily something not too critical, 'cause, you know, it's Motif
[01:02] <thoreauputic> mjr: not much really ;)
[01:03] <persia> Pyf: Is there a reason you don't want to use the id3lib provided by the repositories?
[01:03] <Pyf> persia, i dont seem able to apt-get it
[01:03] <Pyf> apokryphos, sorry... it wasnt supposed to be a long paste, but coz im an idiot i pasted the same thing twice ;(
[01:03] <mjr> hmh, the openmotif license does seem to restrict its use to FOSS operating systems
[01:03] <sorush20> how do I run a JAR file
[01:03] <mjr> -> non-free
[01:04] <apokryphos> Pyf: that's ok; no major harm done. :)
[01:04] <Seveas> sorush20, java -jar filename.jar
[01:04] <persia> Pyf: `aptitude search id3` will return a list of all the id3 packages available.  One of these will be libid3-version, which is the one you want to install.
[01:05] <Pyf> persia, cheers i need the version number i want
[01:05] <persia> Pyf: It depends on whether you are running Hoary or Breezy,  Select the one with only a version number after the hyphen for best results.
[01:06] <Pyf> apokryphos, on that note of me pasting twice, how come if i copy something with ctrl c, the first thing it copies fine, then it wont copy anything else with ctrl c....
[01:06] <Pyf> persia, yeah the -dev one prolly aint for me ;)
[01:06] <mjr> erUSUL, well, not according to the OSI guidelines
[01:06] <thoreauputic> Pyf: is there a particular app you need it for? If the app is in the repos apt willget the lib for you....
[01:06] <Kyral> Oh Seveas, my IPTables rule only blocks SSH coming from eth0
[01:06] <spazz> how do i search a drive?
[01:07] <erUSUL> mjr: note the *somehow*
[01:07] <spazz> like an ipod for all .mp3 files?
[01:07] <erUSUL> spazz: where is the ipod mounted
[01:07] <Seveas> spacey, find /mountpoint/of/ipod -name '*.mp3'
[01:07] <erUSUL> ?
[01:07] <Seveas> spazz*
[01:07] <apokryphos> Pyf: in where exactly?
[01:08] <jorge_> hey guys
[01:08] <Pyf> apokryphos,  xchat or terminal or anything in fact
[01:08] <apokryphos> Pyf: terminal doesn't use Ctrl+C for copy; not sure of X-chat
[01:08] <erUSUL> spazz: find /mounted/ipod -name '*.mp3'
[01:08] <blank> hey guys
[01:08] <spazz> uuh
[01:08] <spazz> i just plugged it in
[01:08] <blank> I just installed ubuntu 5.10
[01:08] <apokryphos> Pyf: anything else it should work in... try gedit or whatever.
[01:08] <spazz> and box with the folders in it came up
[01:08] <apokryphos> hi blank
[01:08] <blank> and I wanna su to root, but during installation I dont remember it asking me for root password, and now I can't su to root
[01:08] <blank> hello apokryphos
[01:09] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell blank about root
[01:09] <Seveas> spazz, find /media -name '*.mp3'
[01:09] <spazz> where do i type that now?
[01:09] <mrchicago> gnome settings deamon has quit
[01:09] <mrchicago> what does that mean
[01:09] <blank> thanks apokryphos, but then how may I issue the dpkg command
[01:09] <Seveas> spazz, in a terminal
[01:09] <spazz> ah
[01:09] <apokryphos> blank: did you check the link from ubotu?
[01:09] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error when I try to run the file. java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
[01:09] <sorush20>    at java.lang.Class.initialize (Class.java:159)
[01:09] <sorush20>    at ij.ImageJ.main (ImageJ.java:417)
[01:09] <sorush20>    at java.lang.VirtualMachine.invokeMain (VirtualMachine.java)
[01:09] <sorush20>    at java.lang.VirtualMachine.main (VirtualMachine.java:92)
[01:09] <blank> oh, sorry
[01:10] <thoreauputic> mrchicago: I guess it means it stopped running :)
[01:10] <sorush20> Caused by: java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException
[01:10] <sorush20>    at java.lang.String.substring (String.java:1018)
[01:10] <mrchicago> so how do i restart it
[01:10] <apokryphos> blank: Ubuntu uses sudo :)
[01:10] <mrchicago> so ill quit getting the error
[01:10] <Seveas> grmpf...
[01:10] <wim> hmm if i open my firefox, it always close after a short time :s
[01:10] <Seveas> &yarr;
[01:10] <thoreauputic> mrchicago: try typing gnome-settings-daemon & in a terminal
[01:11] <janed> Where do i find a list of updatable packages for ubuntu? (Just installed)
[01:11] <thoreauputic> mrchicago: note the &
[01:11] <blank> so instead of su root, sudo root ?
[01:11] <blank> and use my password?
[01:11] <Seveas> sudo -i
[01:11] <thoreauputic> blank: no
[01:11] <blank> oh, okay
[01:11] <Seveas> but better: don't be root all the time
[01:11] <blank> yes I know, thanks
[01:11] <Seveas> use sudo for simple commands
[01:11] <blank> but I'm just trying to issue dpkg
[01:11] <blank> how may I do that, for example
[01:11] <Seveas> like: sudo dpkg
[01:11] <blank> oh, okay, that's it?
[01:12] <thoreauputic> blank: sudo <command>
[01:12] <Seveas> well, the arguments to dpkg are missing ;(
[01:12] <blank> and that would be all?
[01:12] <Seveas> ;)
[01:12] <blank> well yes of course :P
[01:12] <apokryphos> blank: yes. Any commands you want to run as root, just prefix them with sudo
[01:12] <Seveas> that's all
[01:12] <blank> okay, thanks guys
[01:12] <thoreauputic> blank: the pass it wants is *your* password
[01:12] <jediborger> I have WG111t wireless network usb card and I have ndiswrapper 1.2 installed and the driver saying "driver present, hardware present" but it doesn't show up under the networking program can anyone help me?
[01:12] <erUSUL> wim: run it from terminal maybe you can get messages of why it crashes
[01:12] <blank> yes I read that, thanks thoreauputic
[01:12] <thoreauputic> blank: OK :)
[01:12] <dabaR> hi
[01:13] <blank> guys, is it possible to run fluxbox in ubuntu?  I know it's a dumb question but since they made a whole new distro for KDE ubuntu, I'm guessing it'd cause conflicts?
[01:13] <apokryphos> hi dabaR
[01:13] <janed> Any website giving any tutorial for the sudo apt-get commands?
[01:13] <apokryphos> blank: indeed, you just need to install it
[01:13] <thoreauputic> blank: I run flux here all the time
[01:13] <blank> okay, thanks
[01:13] <blank> thanks guys
[01:13] <Seveas> blank, you can have kde, gnome, fluxbox and whatnot installed at the same time
[01:13] <Seveas> kubuntu is not another distro
[01:13] <blank> thanks seveas, hey I remember you seveas! :)
[01:13] <apokryphos> blank: and thoreauputic is our regular fluxbox aficionado :P
[01:14] <blank> ooo cool :D
[01:14] <thoreauputic> heh
[01:14] <blank> hey thoreauputic, can I simply do sudo apt-get <link to fluxbox file online> and it'll install it for me?
[01:14] <Pyf> janed, www.ubuntuguide.org i found useful
[01:14] <thoreauputic> blank: and apokryphos is the resident KDE fanboy ;)
[01:14] <Seveas> Pyf, ubuntuguide is bad
[01:14] <sorush20> 1
[01:14] <blank> haha, kay
[01:14] <janed> Thanks mate ;)
[01:14] <Pyf> janed, maybe im wrong :)
[01:14] <thoreauputic> blank: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:14] <Seveas> 2
[01:15] <apokryphos> 3
[01:15] <Seveas> 5
[01:15] <blank> oh seiously?
[01:15] <jediborger> I have WG111t wireless network usb card and I have ndiswrapper 1.2 installed and the driver saying "driver present, hardware present" but it doesn't show up under System-Administration-Networking. Can anyone help me?
[01:15] <apokryphos> Seveas: you forgot to say fizz :D
[01:15] <Seveas> :p
[01:16] <slack7384> Seveas: Huh?
[01:16] <sorush20> I was just testing that I was unbaned.. thank you very much.. I'm just happy to see Seveas is so heartless..
[01:16] <slack7384> Seveas: ASCII Code! :P
[01:16] <Pyf> ive got a python script how would i run it?
[01:16] <erUSUL> jediborger: run ifconfig -a
[01:16] <slack7384> Pyf: python yourscript.py
[01:16] <Seveas> sorush20, calling people heartless is a great way to get a ban
[01:16] <jediborger> what does that do?
[01:17] <apokryphos> sorush20: hardly heartless; it should be common practice to read the /topic before speaking in a chan.
[01:17] <erUSUL> show the (net) interfaces you have in your system
[01:17] <jediborger> ok hold let me try it
[01:17] <todd__> terminal says "no command" for alsaconf but i have alsa-utils installed.  tried reinstalling...what could be the prob?
[01:17] <thoreauputic> todd__: Ubuntu has no alsaconf
[01:18] <mrchicago> has anyone read the m$ site
[01:18] <mrchicago> on linux
[01:18] <blank> thoreauputic, sorry for pm flooding you, heh, copied way too much
[01:18] <thoreauputic> blank: ?
[01:18] <mrchicago> ms says something about legal problems with linux
[01:18] <todd__> ohh, heh.
[01:18] <blank> didn I pm you thoreauputic?
[01:18] <mrchicago> shrugs
[01:18] <blank> it says something about
[01:18] <Seveas> mrchicago, FUD
[01:18] <sorush20> you guys are so right but it just feels like Open Source world giving you a kick in the belly.. just for pasting by mistake into a channel.
[01:18] <blank> fluxbox is already the newest version.
[01:18] <thoreauputic> blank: not thatI can see...
[01:18] <mrchicago> microsoft is acting desperate
[01:18] <blank> oh lol
[01:18] <slack7384> mrchicago: They're probably talking about the sco case again :roll:
[01:19] <jediborger> it shows eth0, lo, and sit0 now wlan0
[01:19] <thoreauputic> blank: then you have it installed, clearly
[01:19] <blank> thoreauputic: how can I change window managers
[01:19] <mrchicago> probably
[01:19] <apokryphos> sorush20: you pasted by mistake? Didn't look like it :P
[01:19] <blank> oh, lol, sorry
[01:19] <jediborger> no wlan0 or ath0
[01:19] <mrchicago> whats sco worth now 10 cents
[01:19] <Seveas> blank logout and pick one when you login
[01:19] <blank> will I be able to set it as default?
[01:19] <thoreauputic> blank: log out, choose flucnox from the sessions list
[01:19] <apokryphos> yup
[01:19] <Seveas> blank, it will ask whether you want that :)
[01:19] <Pyf> blank, yep
[01:19] <blank> okay, thanks guys, thanks a lot! :D
[01:19] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error when I try to run the file. java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
[01:19] <mrchicago> how can i get dvdstyler to work
[01:19] <dabaR> blank: $20
[01:20] <mrchicago> lol
[01:20] <blank> by the way, go check out www.codeblank.net sometime, it's geared towards programmers
[01:20] <mrchicago> cool
[01:20] <blank> *takes out gum, power ranger action figure, and a sticker of 'cool' out of his pocket'
[01:20] <mrchicago> if i could get sdl programming code to work in unbuntu id be happy
[01:20] <Seveas> blank, please don't spam in here...
[01:20] <blank> it's got a syntax highlighter bbcode tags for tons of languages, okay fine i'll shut up lol
[01:21] <erUSUL> jediborger: so you dont have wlan nor ath0 nor ra0 or whatever...  are you sure your card is usable in linux?
[01:21] <blank> c ya guys thanks
[01:21] <dabaR> later
[01:21] <blank> c ya seveas
[01:21] <mrchicago> wished the ubuntu guys would just add it to synapsist
[01:21] <Seveas> bye
[01:21] <blank> c ya buds
[01:21] <WebLOCH> Hello
[01:21] <Seveas> mrchicago, libsdl$someversion-dev
[01:21] <jediborger> I don't know if it is but I got ndiswrapper to reconize it
[01:21] <apokryphos> hi WebLOCH
[01:22] <WebLOCH> I was here a little while ago with a problem with my keyboard and mouse setup
[01:22] <WebLOCH> I was offered some advice but it didnt work
[01:22] <WebLOCH> I cant remember who offered the advice tho
[01:22] <WebLOCH> Persia I think
[01:22] <WebLOCH> but if anyone can help I would be greatful
[01:22] <jediborger> It's a netgear wg111t soemone else on one of the forums said they got it to work but I can't get a response from them
[01:22] <mrchicago> heh
[01:22] <dabaR> WebLOCH: you need to be specific.
[01:22] <apokryphos> hola nalioth =)
[01:22] <WebLOCH> Obviously, I was just seeing if the original helpers were here
[01:22] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: state the problem and we'll see =)
[01:22] <WebLOCH> I have a logitech dinovo set
[01:23] <WebLOCH> dinovo media desktop 2.0
[01:23] <WebLOCH> and it worked under Hoary fine
[01:23] <erUSUL> jediborger: i hink i can not help you :( sorry
[01:23] <persia> WebLOCH: Did you get any errors when running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:23] <WebLOCH> I upgraded to Breezy and now cannot login haha
[01:23] <WebLOCH> No i did not
[01:23] <jediborger> ok thanks anyways
[01:23] <get_VoIP_here> Is anyone running Asterisk under Breezy?
[01:23] <thoreauputic> johndarkhorse: I preferred "noirequus" ;-)
[01:23] <Seveas> WebLOCH, can you paste your xorg.conf on the pastebin?
[01:23] <johndarkhorse> thoreauputic: and why is that?
[01:24] <thoreauputic> johndarkhorse: lovely mixture of languages ;-)
[01:24] <WebLOCH> Seveas I cant paste anything, I cant get to it :P
[01:24] <Seveas> WebLOCH, is the machine connected to the internet?
[01:24] <WebLOCH> at the moment it is yes
[01:24] <WebLOCH> This is my WinXP install
[01:24] <persia> WebLOCH: Would you mind putting the InputDevice sections of your xorg.conf in the pastebin?  I'm not sure I can help, but I've been digging through docs on InputDevices recently trying to get all my keys to work.
[01:24] <johndarkhorse> thoreauputic: but the nicks ARE related
[01:24] <WebLOCH> Dual boot machine
[01:25] <Seveas> ok, then login at the command line and type the following commands:
[01:25] <thoreauputic> johndarkhorse: *cough* I guess I worked that out
[01:25] <janed> Another question : Is there any web sites with an overview of diffrent packages? I read that there is thousands of programs accessible for ubuntu, but where do i find a complete list?
[01:25] <Seveas> wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[01:25] <h0sl3r> I installed Open Office 2, but now the spell checker wont work. How can I fix this?
[01:25] <Seveas> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | python pastebin
[01:25] <johndarkhorse> !tell janed about equivalents
[01:25] <erUSUL> janed: you can view them with synaptic
[01:25] <Seveas> janed, packages.ubuntu.com
[01:26] <oddball_> okay my friend, being goofy, picked that he was in the UK during his install... whats the easiest way to fix this?  now ive set X to be US, but it requires me to hit some keys two times to get the character... such as
[01:26] <sorush20> do I have to install Java common if I need to run a Java program
[01:26] <apokryphos> janed: if you see there, it's searchable too. Access to around 16K packs, yes. :)
[01:26] <oddball_> and console still doesnt do things correctly.  suggestions would be awesome.
[01:26] <Seveas> sorush20, you might need the sun java runtime for some programs
[01:26] <WebLOCH> Okay I shall try that
[01:26] <WebLOCH> be back soon
[01:26] <janed> Okays :) Thanks, so packages.ubuntu.com then
[01:27] <apokryphos> yup
[01:27] <Seveas> oddball_, system->preferences->keyboard
[01:27] <Seveas> or run base-config again
[01:27] <blank> man, I got some error loading shared library
[01:27] <oddball_> Seveas: that only fixes things in X... not console
[01:27] <thoreauputic> oddball_: not sure, but I think if you rerun sudo base-config that might do it for you
[01:27] <blank> is there a way to uninstall fluxbox
[01:27] <oddball_> Seveas: k ill try base-config
[01:27] <Seveas> blank, paste the error on the pastebin
[01:27] <blank> so that I could reinstall it after
[01:27] <oddball_> blank sudo aptitude remove fluxbox
[01:27] <h0sl3r> I installed Open Office 2, but now the spell checker wont work. How can I fix this?
[01:27] <blank> thanks
[01:27] <Seveas> blank, sudo aptitude purge fluxbox
[01:27] <blank> purge or remove
[01:28] <oddball_> purge removes config files too
[01:28] <oddball_> its a more complete removal i suppose.
[01:28] <blank> thanks
[01:29] <blank> thoreauputic:  what was that command again, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:29] <thoreauputic> blank: did you get fluxbox taking forever to load?
[01:29] <dabaR> Seveas: cann oddball_ try dpkg-reconfigure base-install?
[01:29] <blank> nope, instead I got some error right after logging in
[01:29] <blank> thoreauputic:  what was that command again, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:29] <thoreauputic> blank: yes, but that's unlikely to fix the problem
[01:29] <blank> I'm just gonna reinstall
[01:29] <blank> cause at first I installed from debian package
[01:29] <blank> and it might've been that
[01:29] <blank> so now I'm gonna install using aptget
[01:29] <thoreauputic> blank: yes, well, the hoary version offlux has some issues
[01:30] <blank> no wonder, I'm breezy badger
[01:30] <apokryphos> blank: note that apt-get is the backend of Synaptic, the Ubuntu Package Manager. You can always use that for a pretty way of removing/adding packages
[01:30] <thoreauputic> blank: oh - don't use debian packages
[01:30] <blank> so I'm gonna use apt-get now right?
[01:30] <blank> lol exactly, my fault, sorry, I thought debian package would be easier
[01:30] <hondje> I'm trying to file a bug in breezy, but the package isn't listed in bugzilla
[01:30] <thoreauputic> blank: check what version breezy has
[01:30] <blank> so I should try apt-get now?
[01:30] <blank> synaptic didn't have fluxbox, I searched for it
[01:31] <thoreauputic> blank: apt-cache policy fluxbox - what version is it?
[01:31] <apokryphos> blank: it sure does, if apt does
[01:31] <hondje> oh, typo...ignore me
[01:31] <apokryphos> blank: as I said, Synaptic is a GUI front-end to apt
[01:31] <thoreauputic> blank: it's in universe
[01:31] <janed> Well, one more question ;) : There is diffrent package categories listed. << warty | hoary | hoary-backports | breezy >> Now is this based on diffrent versions of ubuntu, or, why are they categorized like this? (I ask in pure n00bish spirit ;)
[01:31] <Seveas> hondje, don't we always ignore you :)
[01:31] <gpled> does anyone know of a nice texted editor for writing c and assembly? something that uses color text.  would be nice to have mouse overs too.
[01:31] <blank> universe?
[01:31] <hondje> Seveas: If you're smart, yes :)
[01:31] <thoreauputic> !tell blank about repos
[01:32] <Seveas> janed, different versions indeed :)
[01:32] <blank> hey guys, what's the paste bin
[01:32] <whyameye> I see that built-in there is something called "sticky notes" for Gnome. How do I run this?
[01:32] <apokryphos> janed: warty, hoary, breezy are the different versions
[01:32] <thoreauputic> !paste
[01:32] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:32] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl <= pastebin
[01:32] <persia> janed: They are different versions of Ubuntu.  Today Hoary is the most recently released.  Breezy is expected 13th October.
[01:32] <h0sl3r> I installed Open Office 2, but now the spell checker wont work. How can I fix this?
[01:32] <blank> I know, but the universe repository?
[01:32] <apokryphos> janed: hoary-backports is, as it suggests, backports to hoary.
[01:32] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell blank about repositories
[01:32] <Seveas> h0sl3r, by running 1.1.x again
[01:32] <thoreauputic> blank: ubotu sent you an URL
[01:32] <blank> I have breezy badger
[01:32] <Seveas> 2.0 spellcheck on hoary is not functional
[01:32] <apokryphos> blank: established :)
[01:32] <blank> established?
[01:32] <thoreauputic> blank: the method is the same
[01:32] <janed> :) Thanks again, it probably wont be my last question lol
[01:33] <blank> yes, I'm lost but, yeah?
[01:33] <apokryphos> blank: as in, yup, we've established that 8)
[01:33] <thoreauputic> blank: except for the word "breezy"
[01:33] <blank> oh okay
[01:33] <h0sl3r> Seveas, oo2 is much faster. Are you sure there is no other solution?
[01:33] <blank> uh...okay
[01:33] <blank> yeah
[01:33] <apokryphos> janed: no problem; we're here to help :)
[01:33] <blank> so should I use apt get method?
[01:33] <blank> cuase before I used debian package remember, so it might've been taht that cause the problem
[01:33] <thoreauputic> blank: as we've said, apt or synaptic
[01:33] <apokryphos> blank: once again, apt is a backend. Synaptic/apt can both be used.
[01:33] <pakaloca> I
[01:33] <blank> yeah I know, but apt-get seems to be easier for this
[01:34] <thoreauputic> blank: whatever you prefer
[01:34] <apokryphos> blank: sure, go for it then. :)
[01:34] <Seveas> !soureces
[01:34] <ubotu> Seveas: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:34] <apokryphos> whatever floats your boat
[01:34] <Seveas> !sources
[01:34] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:34] <blank> okay, the universe repository is already in synaptic right, or do I have to add it
[01:34] <thoreauputic> ;)
[01:34] <Seveas> ubotu, no sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[01:34] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:34] <WebLOCH> Hey guys
[01:35] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: you evil you
[01:35] <thoreauputic> blank: *read* the URL ubotu sent you
[01:35] <WebLOCH> Back again
[01:35] <blank> can't find fluxbox in synaptic, you guys know what repositor I can find it in
[01:35] <blank> okay
[01:35] <daaku> any powerbook users? i'm hoping someone has a keymap & xkb file for this thing (en_US)!
[01:35] <WebLOCH> One of the commands you gave me didnt work
[01:35] <apokryphos> blank: it's in Universe, as we said.
[01:35] <Seveas> WebLOCH, which one and what was the error?
[01:35] <WebLOCH> wget blah
[01:35] <WebLOCH> http 404
[01:35] <Seveas> then you mistyped the url
[01:36] <apokryphos> blank: put this in your /etc/apt/sources.list:  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[01:36] <WebLOCH> the link you gave me was   http://ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin
[01:36] <thoreauputic> blank: review the last half hour and see how many times you find the same information :)
[01:36] <Seveas> WebLOCH, no
[01:36] <Seveas> http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[01:36] <apokryphos> blank: replace gb with your local mirror
[01:36] <dabaR> 404-page not found/file not found
[01:36] <WebLOCH> hmmm
[01:36] <WebLOCH> check the log im pretty sure you omitted the files bit
[01:36] <Seveas> *checking*
[01:36] <blank> man this is all too confusing, yeah I know you guys have said the same things over again it's just that since you're all saying it at once it's kinda hard to understand lol, I'll read, thanks guys
 wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[01:36] <WebLOCH> hmm
[01:36] <Seveas> So there :)
[01:37] <WebLOCH> excuse my idiocy
[01:37] <apokryphos> blank: go for the last instruction there
[01:37] <waterbaby999> right im off to sleepies now
[01:37] <waterbaby999> gnite everyone :)
[01:37] <Seveas> 'night
[01:37] <dabaR> cya
[01:37] <apokryphos> blank: add that to your sources.list. Then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:37] <dabaR> apokryphos: the last instruction being the hoary repos on pastebin?
[01:37] <locomorto> /quit
[01:37] <locomorto> /part #ubuntu ermm
[01:38] <apokryphos> dabaR: nope; my last instruction, that is.
[01:38] <dabaR> ok, he is using breezy I think
[01:38] <petersen> hi, can somebody help me? i have problems with installing xserver
[01:38] <persia> petersen: What sort of problem?
[01:38] <whyameye> isn't there a stickies applet built into Gnome? How do I use it?
[01:39] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hah - a nice way to help :)
[01:39] <petersen> dont know how to install it
[01:39] <Seveas> couldn't resist the temptation :)
[01:39] <dabaR> whyameye: right click on the panel. add to panel, select stickies
[01:39] <thoreauputic> heheh
[01:39] <dabaR> petersen: how did you install ubuntu?
[01:39] <petersen> from the cd
[01:39] <whyameye> dabaR: thanks! got it!
[01:39] <sorush20> Could someone take a look at this error I don't know how to fix it.. I have placed the  .class plugin file in the plugin folder as instructed and I keep getting this error.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2326
[01:40] <dabaR> petersen: did you choose default install? or server?
[01:40] <blank> guys thanks I wub you!
[01:40] <petersen> first i tried default but hangs up, now "server"
[01:40] <blank> I think it's installed
[01:40] <dabaR> sorush20: context...
[01:40] <Seveas> sorush20, which version of java did you install?
[01:40] <blank> I'm gonna restart now and check :D
[01:40] <dabaR> petersen: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <Seveas> dabaR, context is a program failing to launch :)
[01:40] <sorush20> dabaR, Seveas I used 1.0.5
[01:41] <Seveas> 1.0.5 ..?
[01:41] <dabaR> a program, eh? *the* program?
[01:41] <dabaR> something he wrote?
[01:41] <petersen> ok running now
[01:41] <persia> sorush20: It looks like you have a StringOutOfBounds error on line 50 of IJ,java.  You might want to trap the exception, and take a look at the details in the Exception object.
[01:41] <mindframe> hrmm having problems with wifi now that i've upgraded to breezy
[01:41] <erUSUL> sorush20: you are refering to 1.5.x for sure
[01:41] <Seveas> sorush20, what's the output of 'java -version'
[01:41] <Seveas> paste it on the bin or in a private chat please
[01:42] <petersen> does it install xserver and all needet? nvidia driver too?
[01:42] <Seveas> petersen, yes
[01:42] <petersen> thx
[01:42] <Enendar> does anyone have comments about enlightenment?
[01:42] <dabaR> good luck.
[01:42] <NegativePlazma> has anyone successfully gotten mac on linux installed and working?
[01:42] <avatar__> hello!
[01:42] <dabaR> Enendar: searched the forums? ubuntuforums.org
[01:42] <apokryphos> Enendar: will never be released, but has some cool things. Worth playing about with.
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Enendar: enlightenment is a good goal to strive towards
[01:43] <Seveas> Enendar, none other than that I think it sucks :)
[01:43] <apokryphos> Enendar: if you want to install, /msg ubotu enlightenment
[01:43] <sorush20> java -version
[01:43] <Seveas> thoreauputic, rofl (almost physically rofl)
[01:43] <oddball_> !w32codecs
[01:43] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:43] <dabaR> sorush20: in a terminal
[01:43] <WebLOCH> Back again
[01:43] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: does ubotu have words of wisdom?
[01:43] <NegativePlazma> !mol
[01:43] <ubotu> I guess mol is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help
[01:43] <apokryphos> Seveas: it really does have a few cool things :D
[01:43] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: sometimes the most sane speaker in #ubuntu - yes 8)
[01:43] <WebLOCH> Seveas I am beginning to think that i am retarded
[01:43] <petersen> huh, he dooing much downloads now, how much pakets will he download?
[01:44] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: :D
[01:44] <locomorto> you can also get w32codecs for the marrilat repo
[01:44] <Seveas> WebLOCH, don't :)
[01:44] <erUSUL> Seveas: what is really worth of e17 are the libraries that rasterman writtes
[01:44] <dabaR> WebLOCH: stop that, you are fine, jsut need some guidance.
[01:44] <locomorto> thats how i get it on breezy
[01:44] <johndarkhorse> locomorto: please dont recommend marillat
[01:44] <WebLOCH> Seveas I tried the commands you gave
[01:44] <sorush20> I keep getting this return on the java -verison http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2327
[01:44] <WebLOCH> And apparently I have written to the pastebin
[01:44] <avatar__> people... i need to recompile my kernel without the EFi partition support...
[01:44] <avatar__> Any easy howto?
[01:44] <WebLOCH> But it gave an error at the same time :P
[01:44] <gigaclon> janed, just browse synaptic
[01:44] <avatar__> or precompiled without EFI?
[01:44] <johndarkhorse> locomorto: marillat will break an ubuntu box
[01:44] <WebLOCH> Because there is no such dir as /etc/x11
[01:44] <apokryphos> Older enlightenments did indeed suck completely oO
[01:44] <Seveas> sorush20, eeeek :/ that's a bad java
[01:45] <Seveas> try installing the sun java JRE
[01:45] <johndarkhorse> locomorto: www.mplayerhq.hu on the downloads page is where you get w32codecs
[01:45] <locomorto> johndarkhorse: in what way, and how would you get it on breezy?
[01:45] <mindframe> Seveas, does breezy install ipv6?  the MAC address of my pcmcia wifi card looks crazy now that i've upgraded.
[01:45] <NegativePlazma> !beer
[01:45] <ubotu> NegativePlazma: Syntax error in line 1
[01:45] <Seveas> WebLOCH, then you did not install a GUI environment :)
[01:45] <NegativePlazma> bahahaha
[01:45] <blank> thanks guys, I'm in fluxbox now
[01:45] <NegativePlazma> mmm fluxbox goodness
[01:45] <sorush20> is there an IRC that integrates Paste bin
[01:45] <dabaR> $20 blank, I told you.
[01:45] <Seveas> mindframe, yes it does isntall ipv6
[01:45] <NegativePlazma> sorush20, #flood
[01:46] <NegativePlazma> !beer
[01:46] <ubotu> I don't know, NegativePlazma
[01:46] <avatar__> and about ati radeon in ubuntu?
[01:46] <WebLOCH> Seveas - I used the Breezy CD to upgrade from Hoary
[01:46] <Seveas> NegativePlazma, don't play with the bot
[01:46] <WebLOCH> It is definately graphical
[01:46] <NegativePlazma> Senjin,  sorry
[01:46] <NegativePlazma> err
[01:46] <NegativePlazma> Seveas, sorry
[01:46] <blank> by the way, what file manager can I use for fluxbox
[01:46] <Seveas> WebLOCH, something went very wrong then
[01:46] <blank> thoreauputic, you have a favorite?
[01:46] <johndarkhorse> blank: any of them
[01:46] <locomorto> blank: rox
[01:46] <dabaR> blank: any.
[01:46] <persia> WebLOCH: Ummm...  You really should have an /etc/X11 if you have any X environment.  You spoke earlier of a "login screen".  Can you describe that?
[01:46] <locomorto> blank: nautilus is still pretty lightweight as well
[01:46] <WebLOCH> Seveas I assume the login screen is part of the X
[01:46] <thoreauputic> blank: what does  fluxbox -version  say ? ( I'm curious what version is in breezy)
[01:46] <WebLOCH> yeah
[01:47] <mindframe> hrmm how can i get rid of it, or let my wifi card use its ipv4 mac?
[01:47] <WebLOCH> Console loads
[01:47] <dabaR> WebLOCH: it is separate.
[01:47] <thoreauputic> blank: I like rox-filer
[01:47] <WebLOCH> Presents some information
[01:47] <apokryphos> Errrm, java is in Breezy Multiverse? news to me.
[01:47] <locomorto> blank: you'll want to use a gtk one though (ie not a qt app)
[01:47] <oddball_>  okay is w32codecs still only available from nerim?
[01:47] <WebLOCH> then loads the slightly graphical intro, which shows modules loading etc
[01:47] <locomorto> apokryphos: it is
[01:47] <dabaR> oddball_: no. did you google?
[01:47] <WebLOCH> then a graphical login screen appears
[01:47] <blank> so rox-filer?
[01:47] <blank> or nautilus
[01:47] <WebLOCH> prompting for user name and password
[01:47] <oddball_> dabaR: i meant a deb package of it.
[01:47] <locomorto> apokryphos: I'm using it right now
[01:47] <apokryphos> locomorto: indeed, so I see.
[01:47] <locomorto> apokryphos: its only 1.4 though
[01:47] <locomorto> :(
[01:48] <thoreauputic> blank: I recommend rox
[01:48] <blank> you guys like rox filer or nautilus
[01:48] <blank> rox, okay
[01:48] <apokryphos> locomorto: it was removed from hoary-extras
[01:48] <persia> WebLOCH: It really shouldn't be able to get that far without /etc/X11.
[01:48] <dabaR> I never use rox.
[01:48] <WebLOCH> I would agree
[01:48] <WebLOCH> But the command failed
[01:48] <WebLOCH> so then I tried navigating manually
[01:48] <dabaR> WebLOCH: keep it in one message. easier to read, and get your point.
[01:48] <WebLOCH> Sorry dabaR, it is a poor habit
[01:48] <Seveas> apokryphos, blackdown java is in multiverse now
[01:49] <dabaR> WebLOCH: dont be sorry to me, your point will be lost.
[01:49] <Seveas> WebLOCH, /etc/X11 is /etc/ Capital X - One - One
[01:49] <Seveas> maybe you misspeeled it
[01:49] <apokryphos> Seveas: hoary too?
[01:49] <WebLOCH> Its possible but then I tried
[01:49] <WebLOCH> ls | grep x
[01:49] <WebLOCH> to see if it would show up
[01:49] <dabaR> X
[01:49] <Seveas> apokryphos, no, just breezy
[01:49] <WebLOCH> and did not
[01:49] <apokryphos> Seveas: I'm wondering how/why it was forced out of -extras
[01:50] <persia> WebLOCH: You'd need either ls | grep X or ls | grep -i x.  Try again please.
[01:50] <Seveas> apokryphos, ENOF*INGCLUE
[01:50] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: because distributing sun java is illegal
[01:50] <thoreauputic> apparently
[01:50] <Seveas> it is
[01:51] <locomorto> Did they get permission for breezy?
[01:51] <WebLOCH> okay well lets give it a go
[01:51] <WebLOCH> thanks for your patience
[01:51] <sorush20> do i have to remove SableVM version 1.1.8
[01:51] <thoreauputic> locomorto: no, the blackdown java is different
[01:51] <apokryphos> locomorto: it's blackdown that's in
[01:51] <blank> wtf
[01:51] <blank> I ran nautilus
[01:51] <locomorto> ok
[01:51] <Seveas> locomorto, blackdown isn't sun...
[01:51] <prolsd> urm, guys -- when i try to install a theme (.tar.gz) in ubuntu it says that it's an inappropriate file format
[01:51] <get_VoIP_here> Its not too fifficult to download from Sun and install the binary
[01:51] <blank> and now I dont have the fluxbox menu or anything
[01:51] <dabaR> blank: :P background
[01:51] <FR500> hello
[01:51] <dabaR> open a terminal, and killall nautilus
[01:52] <blank> kay
[01:52] <thoreauputic> blank: and now you can't get rid of the desktop, right?
[01:52] <blank> cept I cant open terminal
[01:52] <dabaR> blank: nautilus --no-desktop
[01:52] <blank> yeah, yeah!
[01:52] <dabaR> go into console
[01:52] <blank> but lol..I cant access console
[01:52] <dabaR> why?
[01:52] <thoreauputic> blank: ctrl-alt-F1, login killall nautilus
[01:52] <blank> cant acess anything
[01:52] <apokryphos> Seveas: how much bandwidth does your repo use roughly a month?
[01:52] <thoreauputic> blank: see above
[01:52] <h0sl3r> I live in an area where there are many wireless hotspots. Is there a program where I can view a list of all the different wireless connections? An example would be the kind that windows xp uses.
[01:52] <FR500> i have a problem, i can ping my default gateway, but whtn i do a trace to the outside network, it doesnt respond my pings, any ideas on why?
[01:52] <dabaR> blank: console is alt+ctrl+f(1-6)
[01:52] <Seveas> apokryphos, no idea, I don't measure it
[01:53] <dabaR> FR500: do you have a router?
[01:53] <Seveas> and since the big downloads (acrobat, java) are quite restricted it's not too much
[01:53] <apokryphos> Seveas: is it still not always up? Can't we get you a ~seveas/ storage account?
[01:53] <Seveas> h0sl3r, sudo iwlist scan
[01:53] <FR500> dabaR, yes, but it worked just fine yesterday and about everyday
[01:53] <dabaR> apokryphos: nothing is always up;)
[01:53] <dabaR> FR500: what can you ping, the router?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> blank: lt-F7 to get back to X
[01:54] <dabaR> thoreauputic: ya, taht was important to mention:)
[01:54] <thoreauputic> blank: *alt-F7
[01:54] <FR500> dabaR yes, but when i trace it wont respond
[01:54] <Seveas> apokryphos, if you don't mind being on very thin legal ice...
[01:54] <johndarkhorse> apokryphos: i've offered to host some torrents of the big files
[01:54] <dabaR> routers dont like traceroutes. Can you ping out to google?
[01:55] <johndarkhorse> if seveas only offered the big files as torrents and some of us hosted them
[01:55] <CarlFK> gnome-ppp - any idea how I can see the AT command/responces?
[01:55] <FR500> dabaR, yes, but it worked like an hour ago
[01:55] <locomorto> h0sl3r: kismet
[01:55] <z|bandito> is there a way to forward the entire screen over ssh?
[01:55] <z|bandito> like to be able to see the desktop
[01:55] <whyameye> When Breezy is released, will my machine automatically update to it with apt-get update or apt-get upgrade?
[01:55] <dabaR> FR500: well, then you changed something, or just need to turn everything off, then on. I dunno. What is your issue? that you cant traceroute?
[01:55] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to change the gtk theme by hand??
[01:55] <ab9id> Is anyone else having a problem accessing www.ubuntuguide.org?
[01:56] <bur[n] er> gnome-theme-manager keeps crashing since I loaded a crappy gtk theme
[01:56] <avatar__> cant access ubuntuguide
[01:56] <FR500> dabaR not exactly, long explanation
[01:56] <petersen> when im installing the ubuntu desktop mybe that im getting a blackscreen?
[01:56] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: just not as convenient as a repo
[01:56] <dabaR> z|bandito: I think VNC is used for that.
[01:56] <locomorto> h0sl3r: theres also kwifimanager but I can't vouch for it being any good (quite the oppisote really)
[01:56] <prolsd> urm, guys -- when i try to install a theme (GNOME -- .tar.gz) in ubuntu it says that it's an inappropriate file format. Anyone care to help out?
[01:56] <Seveas> not being able to access that crap is not a problem imho avatar__ / ab9id
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> ab9id: the ubuntuguide is poison. use wike.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:56] <thoreauputic> z|bandito: or better, freenx
[01:56] <dabaR> bur[n] er: looked at the FAQs at art.gnome.org?
[01:56] <persia> Hurrah!  ubuntuguide is dead!
[01:56] <bur[n] er> dabaR: nope :)  good place to start I guess
[01:56] <bur[n] er> thanks
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumention even
[01:57] <apokryphos> persia: probably only temporarily
[01:57] <z|bandito> freenx?
[01:57] <dabaR> prolsd: also for you, look at the faqs at art.gnome.org
[01:57] <thoreauputic> !tell z|bandito about freenx
[01:57] <Seveas> !tell me about freenx
[01:57] <z|bandito> thanks
[01:57] <ab9id> alright
[01:57] <thoreauputic> z|bandito: it's areally good remote X system
[01:57] <ab9id> question two.
[01:58] <dabaR> Seveas: msg the bot in private, why dont you ever do that?
[01:58] <WebLOCH> im back guys, ii appear to have managed finally, you were correct again... http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2328
[01:58] <thoreauputic> Seveas: is the wiki page still accurate for freenx?
[01:58] <ab9id> is there a guide to sharing my local printer (on ubuntu) by ip.  (so other systems can access it similar to a jet direct?)
[01:58] <Seveas> dabaR, actually, I do that a lot :)
[01:58] <dabaR> oki
[01:58] <SPCcrow> !info limewire
[01:58] <Seveas> thoreauputic, yes
[01:58] <prolsd> dabaR, that was exactly what i was looking for.
[01:58] <thoreauputic> Seveas: OK thanks
[01:58] <prolsd> doesn't help when i look for 'documentation' instead of FAQ. gg.
[01:58] <dabaR> prolsd: there is a tutorial?
[01:58] <x[BrB] x> how can i run MP3?
[01:58] <prolsd> thanks.
[01:59] <dabaR> welcome, is there a faq on that?
[01:59] <bur[n] er> dabaR: no luck there... any idea bout chanign the gtk theme by hand?  know what file it is?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> x[BrB] x: /msg ubotu mp3
[01:59] <kevogod> tell x[BrB] x about restricted
[01:59] <kevogod> !tell x[BrB] x about restricted
[01:59] <x[BrB] x> ty
[01:59] <thoreauputic> x[BrB] x: or just  do sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:59] <h0sl3r> Is there a wireless network viewer. One sort of like windows has? I want to be able to view the essid and choose which network to connect to. Anyone know of one?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> and set output plugin to esound
[01:59] <dabaR> prolsd: tell me, is there an faq about installing themes there?
[02:00] <persia> WebLOCH: I don't see anything wrong with that.  It should be collecting keyboard events from the same source used for the virtual consoles.  My apologies that I cannot be of more help.
[02:00] <prolsd> there is.
[02:00] <z|bandito> is it the same screen as displayed on the local VGA display?  or is it a seperate login?
[02:00] <dabaR> bur[n] er: ^
[02:00] <WebLOCH> thanks anyway persia
[02:00] <WebLOCH> Seveas any further advice?
[02:00] <WebLOCH> I might give up and reinstall hoary
[02:00] <SPCcrow> is there a deb package for limewire?
[02:00] <dabaR> SPCcrow: no.
[02:01] <SPCcrow> and whats a good way to install a .deb package?
[02:01] <regeya> never give up, never surrender!
[02:01] <regeya> yikes.
[02:01] <dabaR> SPCcrow: get the bin from their web site.
[02:01] <bur[n] er> dabaR: it's not there, I swear
[02:01] <Da_SWAT> how can I permanently 'save' options like "xset -b". Can I create a separate textfile and link it to my startup somehow?
[02:01] <persia> WebLOCH: If you decide to reinstall, you may do as well to reinstall Breezy Colony 4, as it may just work.
[02:01] <WebLOCH> haha, easier said than done
[02:01] <dabaR> http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q6
[02:01] <bur[n] er> dabaR: it says how to install them, but not how to change them... without using gnome-theme-manager that is
[02:01] <z|bandito> there is probably a deb from gnutella, which limewire connects to
[02:01] <regeya> that's like the millionth time someone this weekend has asked for a deb of limewire.
[02:01] <z|bandito> from=for
[02:01] <thoreauputic> Da_SWAT: put it in ~/.bashrc
[02:01] <dabaR> bur[n] er: aha.
[02:01] <WebLOCH> Persia, I tried that first of all, it did not work, It stopped after it got to loading the keyboard and mouse :P
[02:01] <regeya> why would there be a deb of such a blatantly commercial piece of software???!?
[02:01] <WebLOCH> So I had to install Hoary and Upgrade
[02:02] <don824chan> wahoo i got my wireless linux laptop working
[02:02] <dabaR> bur[n] er: it may be in Apps>System Tools>COnf editor, I dont use gnome any more, so I dont kno.
[02:02] <dabaR> regeya: ya !!!???!?!?
[02:02] <h0sl3r> Is there a wireless network viewer. One sort of like windows has? I want to be able to view the essid and choose which network to connect to. Anyone know of one?
[02:02] <persia> WebLOCH: Ah..  Well, at least Hoary will be supported for some time in the future :)
[02:02] <bur[n] er> dabaR: i can't launch gconf-editor either ;)  my gtk theme is all f'd up
[02:02] <regeya> gtk-gnutella - shares files in a peer to peer network
[02:02] <ab9id> question 3, can someone point me at the config file I need to edit to change which NTP server ubuntu attempts to contact at boot?
[02:02] <regeya> mutella - Gnutella client with command line and http interface
[02:02] <get_VoIP_here> regaya: I think its because Limewire used to distribute .deb packages, but stopped not that long ago
[02:03] <Da_SWAT> thoreauputic, thnx :)
[02:03] <regeya> libgnutella-gift - giFT plugin for the Gnutella network
[02:03] <thoreauputic> Da_SWAT: np :)
[02:03] <locomorto> h0sl3r: right click on two windows in system tray
[02:03] <dabaR> regeya: I love you for mutella.
[02:03] <locomorto> h0sl3r: go configure
[02:03] <regeya> heh
[02:03] <locomorto> h0sl3r: go properties -> configure
[02:03] <x[BrB] x> is there a nero for ubuntu?
[02:03] <ab9id> x[BrB] x, it's called cdrecord
[02:03] <locomorto> click on the wireless connection box
[02:03] <rigel> is there something i need to do in k3e in order to burn dvds at higher than 1x?
[02:04] <regeya> just sayin'. there's more than one gnutella client in the repos already.
[02:04] <locomorto> then click on properties
[02:04] <FR500> dabaR man i can't believe it.........routing bit was on 0
[02:04] <thoreauputic> x[BrB] x: Ubuntu is free software - nero is commercial
[02:04] <FR500> dabaR dang forgot about it
[02:04] <rigel> i set it to 8, the speed of the blanks. it recognizes them as such
[02:04] <Iskai> woohoo! - first time with Ubuntu and it works!
[02:04] <rigel> it just doesnt burn at anything greter than 1x
[02:04] <locomorto> you can set it up in there
[02:04] <dabaR> FR500: at least you made it work.
[02:04] <locomorto> Otherwsie use kismet
[02:04] <bur[n] er> dabaR: thanks for the help... i'll just dig through ~/.gconf :)
[02:04] <h0sl3r> locomorto: uhh, what?
[02:04] <locomorto> but i dont think it will let you connect
[02:04] <dabaR> bur[n] er: good luck.
[02:04] <x[BrB] x> ok
[02:04] <dabaR> Iskai: ya, I love ubuntu and linux too.
[02:04] <ab9id> anyone know where the config lives that chooses the NTP server that ubuntu attempts to contact at boot time?
[02:04] <FR500> dabaR well the whol topology was more complex, working on pptp tunnels but the idea was that
[02:04] <benkong2> is there an extras repo for breezy? looking for checkinstall and auto-apt
[02:05] <locomorto> benkong2: checkinstall is in universe...
[02:05] <thoreauputic> x[BrB] x: if you want a nice GUI for CD burning, try graveman or gnomebaker
[02:05] <dabaR> gift is annoying imo
[02:05] <FR500> what is gift?
[02:05] <benkong2> locomorto; ok for breezy?
[02:05] <regeya> never tried it.
[02:05] <thoreauputic> benkong2: those would be in universe
[02:05] <Seveas> !info checkinstall breezy
[02:05] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[02:05] <regeya> k3b is more complete than either graveman or gnomebaker, but I tend to use gnomebaker for most and just use a term for video dvds
[02:06] <locomorto> benkong2: network-manager is in the breezy repos
[02:06] <shawnz> mmk, i'm sshing to my other computer. any way i can run vnc or xdmcp or something on the already-started display?
[02:06] <Seveas> yup it is :)
[02:06] <locomorto> benkong2: but it wont be finsihed
[02:06] <[D] aA`yikes> what kernel version does breezy come with?
[02:06] <locomorto> benkong2: And checkinstall is still in universe there
[02:06] <benkong2> thoreauputic; locomorto thanks they were commented out in my sources.list
[02:06] <locomorto> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:06] <WebLOCH> Seveas - Any final offerings before I resort to Hoary again ?
[02:06] <x[BrB] x> does the cd burning in ubuntu support drag and drop?
[02:06] <[D] aA`yikes> thanks a lot
[02:06] <locomorto> or .3
[02:06] <regeya> unsharp mask in gimp is damn slow.
[02:06] <locomorto> not sure i'll check
[02:06] <[D] aA`yikes> okay
[02:06] <Seveas> WebLOCH, not really
[02:06] <thoreauputic> x[BrB] x: yes
[02:06] <khermans> is there a repo to get the Sun JDK for Breezy installed?
[02:06] <WebLOCH> okay well thanks guys
[02:07] <locomorto> 2.6.12-8
[02:07] <mindframe> can anyone tell me why the mac address on my wifi card looks like this: 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-30-3A-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  now that ive upgraded to breezy?
[02:07] <[D] aA`yikes> thanks locomorto
[02:07] <locomorto> np
[02:07] <[D] aA`yikes> does it by any chance come with inotify?
[02:07] <Seveas> mindframe, funky ... :)
[02:07] <locomorto> yes
[02:07] <[D] aA`yikes> awesome
[02:07] <WebLOCH> take care all
[02:07] <[D] aA`yikes> going to download ubuntu now
[02:07] <[D] aA`yikes> take care everyone
[02:08] <[D] aA`yikes> thanks for the help
[02:08] <apokryphos> Au revoir
[02:08] <x[BrB] x> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[02:08] <x[BrB] x> i still cant run movies
[02:08] <Seveas> khermans, check your private messages :)
[02:09] <mindframe> Seveas, its no fun, my card cant find my router now even when i disable the mac filter.
[02:10] <x[BrB] x> thoreauputic There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[02:10] <thoreauputic> x[BrB] x:  libdvdcss2 and w32codecs
[02:10] <khermans> Seveas, is this the sunjdk1.5 ?
[02:10] <Pluto> help with SAMBA, NAUTILUS... I connect using "PLACES" -> "Connect to Server"; the desktop link is fine but where the hell it was mount? I check /mnt and /media..
[02:11] <FR500> Pluto: you need gnome vfs compliant apps to use that mounts i guess
[02:11] <h0sl3r> Is there a wireless network viewer. One sort of like windows has? I want to be able to view the essid and choose which network to connect to. Anyone know of one?
[02:11] <thoreauputic> x[BrB] x: are you using totem? If so I suggest you install totem-xine
[02:11] <SPCcrow> kismet
[02:11] <khermans> x[BrB] x, you should give vlc a try
[02:11] <FR500> SPCcrow: thats killing a fly with a hammer
[02:11] <khermans> x[BrB] x, sudo aptitude install vlc
[02:11] <FR500> h0sl3r: sudo iwlist interface_name scan
[02:12] <h0sl3r> FR500, thanks
[02:12] <Seveas> khermans, jdk and jre for 1.5 and 1.4 are available
[02:12] <Seveas> Pluto, it's not mounted
[02:12] <thoreauputic> x[BrB] x: khermans is right - vlc is also a possibility
[02:12] <Seveas> it uses the gnome virtual filesystem
[02:12] <FR500> h0sl3r: there are some applets to look for that in the gui
[02:12] <Pluto> SEVEAS: YES it is, but just in the desktop.
[02:12] <h0sl3r> FR500: i get errors saying my interface doesnt support scanning. Is this the end of the line?
[02:13] <FR500> h0sl3r: try iwlist scan
[02:13] <x[BrB] x> im installing it now
[02:13] <x[BrB] x> thanks
[02:13] <Seveas> Pluto, that's not mounted :)
[02:13] <FR500> Pluto: it's not really mounted, it's mouted via gnome virtual file system
[02:13] <sorush20> do I need JDK to run Java applications
[02:13] <Seveas> sorush20, no, just the JRE
[02:13] <FR500> with emphasis on virtual
[02:13] <khermans> sorush20, no just the JRE
[02:13] <khermans> lol
[02:13] <fysa> Installation freezing with AMD64/NForce4 and Breezy preview.  After detecting network and whatever comes after that.  CTRL-C brings up "Starting up the partitioner" at 52% and another freeze.
[02:14] <x[BrB] x> i still can't play it :(
[02:14] <shawnz> hello? :(
[02:14] <FR500> Pluto: it you use the mapped drive frequently you can mount it on boot
[02:14] <khermans> fysa, yes the partitioner has trouble -- i have seen that on many machines
[02:14] <Seveas> hi shawnz :)
[02:14] <h0sl3r> FR500: nope. non of my interfaces allow scanning.
[02:14] <Kyral> hmm
[02:14] <FR500> h0sl3r: though luck then
[02:14] <sorush20> Seveas:  khermans, when I type apt-get install sun-j2re1.5  I get the message that it is already installed.
[02:14] <h0sl3r> ok
[02:14] <Kyral> my school maintains an AFS server for students
[02:14] <khermans> sorush20, thats good
[02:14] <FR500> h0sl3r: some cards need different drivers to allow for scanning
[02:14] <Kyral> can I mount that?
[02:14] <khermans> sorush20, so you should be able to run java apps
[02:14] <FR500> h0sl3r: what card is it?
[02:14] <Pluto> SEVEAS:FR500: THANKS: I will mount it, the old way..
[02:14] <Seveas> sorush20, then do: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:15] <Seveas> sorush20, then do: sudo update-alternatives --config javac
[02:15] <Kyral> so I can stop having to fire up gFTP?
[02:15] <Seveas> (both)
[02:15] <FR500> Pluto: no prob
[02:15] <fysa> Oh, this is with using linux noapic.
[02:15] <FR500> what is AFS?
[02:15] <khermans> firefox -> wp afs
[02:15] <fysa> khermans: downloading the daily now.. hopefully this will fix it.
[02:15] <Kyral> Andrews File System or something
[02:16] <Fred|Fr3d> hey, how can i *KILL* my iptables firewall? i removed it in synaptic but i still cant access anythnig
[02:16] <sorush20> Seveas: I changed the first config file
[02:16] <FR500> AFS looks cool, but samba via pptp tunnel is sooooooo easy
[02:17] <Fred|Fr3d> how do i kill iptables? i uninstalled it but it's still in effect :S
[02:17] <Seveas> Fred|Fr3d, iptables is part of the linux kernel...
[02:17] <Fred|Fr3d> well, how do i kill it's rules?
[02:17] <mindframe> i think he wants to flush all of the rules
[02:17] <sorush20> Seveas: but the second file says that there is only on app present .. which is the the SableV
[02:17] <Seveas> iptables -F flushes the currently active set of rules
[02:17] <Fred|Fr3d> thanks
[02:17] <FR500> Fred|Fr3d: iptables -F
[02:17] <FR500> dan
[02:18] <FR500> g
[02:18] <sorush20> Seveas: but the second file says that there is only on app present .. which is the the SableVM
[02:18] <Seveas> sorush20, ok, sounds reasonable since you only have the sun jre installed
[02:18] <Seveas> sorush20, then do: sudo update-alternatives --config jar
 mmk, i'm sshing to my other computer. any way i can run vnc or xdmcp or something on the already-started display? << anyone? :(
[02:18] <sorush20> Seveas: I get fast Jar
[02:19] <CarlFK> shawnz - I belive you can start up VNC and take over your current desktop
[02:19] <FR500> shawnz: you have to enable them first
[02:19] <Kyral> I know I can install support on it...
[02:19] <Kyral> but can I mount it.....I know the computers in the lab do
[02:19] <Kyral> (and no they aren't on it)
[02:19] <shawnz> yes
[02:19] <Kyral> Seveas I just gotta install the FreeNX server, fire it up, and then go fire up the client in the labs?
[02:19] <shawnz> but vnc wants to make a new display
[02:19] <shawnz> im wondering if i can start it on the one i have already
[02:19] <khermans> Seveas, did you build this sunjdk-1.5 yourself or rip the debian pkg ?
[02:19] <shawnz> and just continue
[02:19] <x[BrB] x> when i tried to play my mp3 i says file cannot be loaded
[02:19] <FR500> vnc doesn't make new displays
[02:19] <khermans> x[BrB] x, in what?
[02:19] <CarlFK> shawnz - find the option that doesn't create a new display.  it will use the exising one, and thats what you want
[02:20] <Seveas> khermans, it are packages created with make-jpkg on a breezy system
[02:20] <FR500> shawnz: VNC accesses the display "on the screen now"
[02:20] <shawnz> and which option is that :p
[02:20] <shawnz> FR500: not when you run it through ssh remotely.
[02:20] <shawnz> unless im using the wrong command
[02:20] <FR500> oh
[02:20] <khermans> Seveas, sweet dude -- just waiting for it to complete -- grabbing it now from you
[02:20] <FR500> kewl
[02:20] <FR500> lots to lear yet
[02:20] <x[BrB] x> khermans in rhymbox music player
[02:20] <khermans> x[BrB] x, you probably need libmp3
[02:20] <CarlFK> shawnz - read me the part in man vncserver that describes it ;)
[02:21] <Kyral> Seveas anyway to shut DOWN the FreeNX server when I don't need it?
[02:21] <zburns> How do I modify a shortcut in the Applications menu (need to change a parameter)?
[02:21] <Seveas> Kyral, it opens no ports
[02:21] <prolsd> hmm.
[02:21] <shawnz>        vncserver Invokes Xvnc on the next available display and with  suitable
[02:21] <shawnz>                  defaults.
[02:21] <x[BrB] x> what shall i do??
[02:21] <Seveas> shutdown ssh and freenx goes down with it
[02:21] <Kyral> So just shut down SSHD
[02:21] <Seveas> yup
[02:21] <Kyral> still I'd like to kill processes when I don't need them
[02:21] <Seveas> it has no processes :)
[02:22] <blank> ubuntu doesn't come with GCC/G++?
[02:22] <Kyral> eh?
[02:22] <bur[n] er> blank: apt-get install build-essential
[02:22] <blank> I'm downloading it right now, just surprised...
[02:22] <Seveas> funny huh :)
[02:22] <blank> okay
[02:22] <khermans> x[BrB] x, try this http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[02:22] <Kyral> blank sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:22] <blank> i just used synaptic
[02:22] <shawnz> blank, open a terminal and 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[02:22] <Seveas> blank, apt-get install build-essential
[02:22] <CarlFK> wow.
[02:22] <Kyral> then how does it work..
[02:22] <x[BrB] x> thanks
[02:22] <Kyral> no process...*confused...*
[02:22] <Seveas> Kyral, I'm planning on writing a short explanation on it
[02:22] <blank> okay I did the install build essential
[02:22] <blank> that'll give me gcc and g++?
[02:23] <khermans> x[BrB] x, you first need to add the multiverse/universe repos
[02:23] <khermans> x[BrB] x, see step #2
[02:23] <bur[n] er> blank: si senor
[02:23] <blank> yay it works thanks
[02:23] <Seveas> in short: NX connects to your machine using ssh and a well-known private/public keypair
[02:23] <shawnz> blank: that gives you gcc, g++, make, etc
[02:23] <blank> thanks :)
[02:23] <blank> by eguys
[02:23] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: iptables -F doesnt help :'(
[02:23] <Seveas> the NX server is the shell of the 'nx' user on your system
[02:23] <Kyral> a well-known...
[02:23] <bur[n] er> Seveas: know if NX can be used to show the same display remotely and locally?
[02:23] <bur[n] er> ala vino style?
[02:23] <Kyral> uhh how can I specifiy MY private/public?
[02:23] <Seveas> Kyral, that has no security implications ;)
[02:24] <Seveas> bur[n] er, NX can tunnel vnc
[02:24] <Kyral> Seveas, I'm paranoid :D
[02:24] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: iptables -F doesnt help :'(
[02:24] <x[BrB] x> khermans url cannot be found
[02:24] <Seveas> Kyral, even them it has no security implications
[02:24] <persia> I am running Breezy with a Japanese keyboard, and have not been able to get both '] ' and '_' working at the same time.  I've tried adjusting /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and with XkbLayout set to "jp", I can use '_', but not '] '.  If I set to "jp106", the reverse is true.  Both keys work perfectly in console.  Could anyone point me in the right direction to fix this?  Either a local file or an online resource would be welcome.
[02:24] <bur[n] er> Seveas: uhh?  is it hard to setup that way?
[02:24] <shawnz> mk
[02:24] <Seveas> bur[n] er, read the docs on nomachine.com
[02:24] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas: nevermind it seems to let me in now :)
[02:24] <shawnz> i dont see an option in man vncserver to start it on the already existing display
[02:24] <shawnz> execpt vncserver :1 which errors
[02:24] <bur[n] er> good call... thanks Seveas
[02:24] <Kyral> so I just install it and let it fly
[02:25] <Seveas> Kyral, no, because even if you know the private key you can't deduct the session key used by ssh
[02:25] <Kyral> then fire up the Windows Client and connect to my IP?
[02:25] <Seveas> read an rsa primer on that ;(
[02:25] <Seveas> ;)
[02:25] <khermans> x[BrB] x, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/#codecs
[02:25] <Octane> anyone else here experiencing problems with PHP/MySQL and Apache in breezy?
[02:25] <shawnz> Warning: ubuntu-server:1 is not taken because of /tmp/.X1-lock
[02:25] <shawnz> Remove this file if there is no X server ubuntu-server:1
[02:25] <shawnz> A VNC server is already running as :1
[02:25] <CarlFK> shawnz - that may be it.  you may need to tell X to allow the 2nd connection or something
[02:25] <Seveas> Kyral, install, enable access per-user and then you can fly :)
[02:25] <CarlFK> shawnz - then that isn't it
[02:25] <khermans> x[BrB] x, your DNS servers have probably not updated yet -- the DNS record was recently changed
[02:25] <Octane> Even though I have all the appropriate packages installed, I get " Call to undefined function: mysql_select_db()"
[02:25] <Kyral> Seveas, I'm the only user on my system :D
[02:25] <CarlFK> shawnz - it is probably going to be :0
[02:26] <Seveas> Kyral, then enable access for that user :)
[02:26] <x[BrB] x> ok
[02:26] <shawnz> ...going to be what?
[02:26] <Kyral> how...
[02:26] <Seveas> sudo nxserver --adduser $USER
[02:26] <Seveas> sudo nxserver --passwd $USER
[02:26] <x[BrB] x> khermans so im in where im i going next?
[02:26] <Kyral> I know how to compile stuff and the inner workings of Linux yet I suck at system admin :P
[02:26] <Xorlev> Okay, I have this fstab line, and it seems to be mounting as read only when I was mounting it under /home, but elsewhere was fine. /dev/sda1       /home               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       0
[02:26] <CarlFK> shawnz - what is the vncserver command you ran to get "A VNC server is already running as :1" ?
[02:26] <shawnz> 'vncserver :1'
[02:26] <Kyral> I feel ashamed
[02:27] <shawnz> i guess it said that because x1-lock was there
[02:27] <Kyral> now I have to convince the guy incharge of the COSI Build of Gentoo install a FreeNX client
[02:27] <Seveas> Kyral, not really
[02:27] <Seveas> there is a web plugin :)
[02:27] <Kyral> I'd rather not :P
[02:27] <khermans> x[BrB] x, yeah that IP is weird
[02:27] <Seveas> your call ;)
[02:27] <Kyral> I feel better keeping it local to my campus net
[02:28] <khermans> x[BrB] x, he might be using modrewrite
[02:28] <Seveas> mod_rewrite is nice
[02:28] <Seveas> I use it for the access control bits of my repo :)
[02:28] <Kyral> its installing ssh..
[02:28] <Kyral> But I already HAVE SSH and OpenSSH...
[02:28] <khermans> well ubuntuguides DNS recently changed, so  gave him the IP mine resolves too, but he uses modrewite possibly and I dont know which directory the guide is in
[02:29] <Seveas> what is installing?
[02:29] <Seveas> what is installing *ssh*?
[02:29] <Kyral> a bunch of libs
[02:29] <Kyral> freenx
[02:29] <khermans> Seveas, he wants MP3 support
[02:29] <Seveas> yeah, freenx needs some libs
[02:29] <absenth> can someone point me to a good samba guide for idiots?
[02:29] <Seveas> read the complete list on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (the freenx section ;))
[02:30] <Seveas> absenth, upgrade to breezy
[02:30] <absenth> Seveas, I'm on breezy
[02:30] <khermans> breezy is really nice
[02:30] <Seveas> it has a for-idiots gui to samba
[02:30] <shawnz> doesnt hoary aswell?
[02:30] <shawnz> :/
[02:30] <cafuego_> Hmm, what's the name again of that trojan scanner?
[02:30] <Kyral> I'm wondering why its installing the SSH package when I already have the functionality
[02:30] <shawnz> cafuego_: clamav?
[02:30] <Seveas> system -> administration -> shared folders
[02:30] <absenth> Seveas, ok, um, where might it be?  is it a package I add
[02:30] <FibreOptic> QUESTION: does the breezy installer have an upgrade option?
[02:30] <Seveas> system -> administration -> shared folders <[02:30] <Kyral> ah
[02:30] <absenth> Seveas, does that work for printers?  Thanks.
[02:30] <Kyral> its just the Meta-Package
[02:30] <Seveas> FibreOptic, yes (and please don't use ALL CAPS)
[02:31] <shawnz> FibreOptic: insert the cd while ubuntu is started and you'll get a message asking you to upgrade.
[02:31] <khermans> FibreOptic, dont know -- but you can do that yourself over the network so why download the CD!!??!
[02:31] <LinuxJones> cafuego, chkrootkit ?
[02:31] <Seveas> absenth, no, but the printer setup dialog handles those
[02:31] <cafuego_> shawnz: No... there's one that always reports false prositives in /proc for 2.6 kernels.. can't rememebr the name, though
[02:31] <cafuego_> LinuxJones: thanks :-)
[02:31] <LinuxJones> :)
[02:31] <x[BrB] x> whats next guys hehehe
[02:31] <Kyral> and adding user to nxserver doesn't work
[02:32] <FibreOptic> first, apologies for the caps, secondly thanks for the answer
[02:32] <Seveas> the problem being?
[02:32] <Kyral> its trying to use the password option or something
[02:32] <khermans> x[BrB] x, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:oCNVrC8mgQ8J:ubuntuguide.org/+ubuntuguide+codecs&hl=en&client=firefox
[02:32] <Seveas> what's the error?
[02:32] <khermans> x[BrB] x, go to the CODECS section
[02:32] <Kyral> no error
[02:32] <Kyral> want me to PM the terminal output?
[02:32] <x[BrB] x> khermans ok
[02:32] <Seveas> would help :)
[02:32] <FibreOptic> khermans: okay, how can I do the network install?
[02:33] <johndarkhorse> Kyral: a pastebin allows others to throw in their .02 cents
[02:33] <_n00blar_> Has anyone been able to run LimWire pro on Ubuntu 5.10?
[02:33] <locomorto> _n00bler: yes
[02:34] <locomorto> sudo alien <name of rpm download>
[02:34] <khermans> FibreOptic, type this in your terminal --> sudo sed -ei s/hoary/breezy/g /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <absenth> Seveas, so, from the printer configuration I can SHARE a linux printer via samba to a winderz machine?
[02:34] <_n00blar_> locomorto, for some reason my copy complains on the version of java (1.42) loaded on ubuntu
[02:34] <locomorto> sudp dpkg -i <name of new deb file>
[02:34] <locomorto> It runs though?
[02:34] <khermans> FibreOptic, sorry ---> sudo sed -ei 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:34] <_n00blar_> locomorto, nope doesn't run
[02:35] <locomorto> what does it say?
[02:35] <Seveas> absenth, ehrm no, my bad
[02:35] <FibreOptic> sounds insanely simple :)
[02:35] <locomorto> hmm
[02:35] <absenth> Seveas, that's the ultimate goal, share a linux printer, to a windows client.
[02:35] <_n00blar_> locomorto, says,...Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[02:35] <sybariten> i've broken my Gnome
[02:35] <locomorto> Its a problemt with the blackdown installers
[02:35] <locomorto> hold on a sec
[02:36] <_n00blar_> locomorto, I installed the latest release from Sun 1.5..but I can't tell it to use that one..don't know how to tell it to use that one instead
[02:36] <FibreOptic> khermans: thanks for that.
[02:36] <absenth> sybariten, I'm sorry, but the FIRST thing that came to mind when you wrote that was EXTREMELY painful to me.
[02:36] <khermans> FibreOptic, you also need to --> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[02:36] <locomorto> unistall the blackdown one (its easy to spot (its the version 1.4 one))
[02:37] <locomorto> and did you follow the wiki?
[02:37] <x[BrB] x> khermans it says  Couldn't find package w32codecs
[02:37] <sybariten> absenth: let me guess that you thought of something somewhat more .... 'physical' than my actual problems are
[02:37] <absenth> sybariten, unfortunatly.
[02:37] <khermans> FibreOptic, after you do --> sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:37] <locomorto> Your on breezy right?
[02:37] <_n00blar_> locomorto, uninstall the blackdown?..
[02:37] <_n00blar_> yes
[02:37] <x[BrB] x> khermans it says Package gstreamer0.8-plugins has no installation candidate
[02:38] <sybariten> my guess is that if i had broken my "Gnome" (winks eyebrows) ... i wouldnt have this error message   "There was a problem registering
[02:38] <sybariten> the panel with the bonobo-activation server.  The error code is 3. The
[02:38] <sybariten> panel will now exit."
[02:38] <j0nas`> hey... can't seem to find package sun-j2sdk1.5... i have hoary-extras and hoary-backports repositories enabled... what gives?
[02:38] <sybariten> ooops multiline quote, unintentional
[02:38] <khermans> x[BrB] x, type this in a terminal --> sudo sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:39] <locomorto> _n00blar_: search for j2re-1.4 or something similiar and kill that
[02:39] <locomorto> in a methaphorical sense
[02:39] <x[BrB] x> done
[02:39] <khermans> x[BrB] x, now --> sudo aptitude update
[02:39] <x[BrB] x> khermans nothing happend
[02:39] <x[BrB] x> ok
[02:39] <j0nas`> has the sun-j2sdk1.5 package been removed or something?
[02:39] <_n00blar_> locomorto, I have....and there's nothing like that on my system. I found something else.. gij that relates to that but it has dependencies
[02:40] <apokryphos> j0nas`: yes
[02:40] <khermans> x[BrB] x, and --> sudo aptitude install w32codecs
[02:40] <j0nas`> why?
[02:40] <apokryphos> j0nas`: legal reasons
[02:40] <j0nas`> because the firefox symlink is broken?
[02:40] <j0nas`> oh
[02:40] <apokryphos> j0nas`: i.e. they were illegal :)
[02:40] <j0nas`> so you got to go by hand now
[02:40] <j0nas`> so to speak
[02:40] <locomorto> whats the full error then?
[02:40] <apokryphos> j0nas`: or upgrade to Breezy, yes.
[02:40] <j0nas`> breezy?
[02:40] <locomorto> paste it here: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:41] <_n00blar_> locomorto, ok..I'll paste it...where's the place to paste stuff that's over 3 lines?
[02:41] <BlueEagle> khermans: There's been issues with the w32codecs for a few days. Neems to have fallen out of the hoary-extras repos.
[02:41] <khermans> x[BrB] x, work for ya?
[02:41] <j0nas`> what is breezy?
[02:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell j0nas` about breezy
[02:41] <j0nas`> thanks
[02:41] <x[BrB] x> its still updating
[02:41] <magnon> Hm, I just installed Breezy on my powerbook, and although the graphical keymap preview shows the right things, the keymap is still US - not Norwegian. Anyone have any idea?
[02:41] <khermans> Blue-Box, weird
[02:41] <locomorto> paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:41] <BlueEagle> khermans: To got mplayerhq.hu and put the essential pack in /usr/lib/w32 (if memory serves)
[02:42] <j0nas`> what is the update-alternatives command to add the sun jdk?
[02:42] <khermans> BlueEagle, i dont use it anyways
[02:42] <johndarkhorse> BlueEagle: its /usr/local/lib/codecs
[02:42] <khermans> BlueEagle, tell x[BrB] x
[02:42] <johndarkhorse> khermans: it's /usr/local/lib/codecs where you put the codecs
[02:42] <khermans> BlueEagle, I use vlc because all the codecs are legal
[02:42] <BlueEagle> khermans: ahh, my bad.
[02:42] <sybariten> i'm in Gnome with one account, have pressed ctrl-F2 to get a new console in order to create a new account... is adduser the command ?
[02:42] <daaku> can someone tell me what package /etc/X11/X belongs to in breezy?
[02:42] <_n00blar_> ok, done
[02:42] <sybariten> any problems with using a commandline version ?
[02:42] <khermans> daaku, Xorg
[02:42] <BlueEagle> magnon: Let me reboot and send a /msg to me while I do that explaining which keys are not working right.
[02:43] <x[BrB] x> is that im going to do after the update?
[02:43] <khermans> x[BrB] x, sudo aptitude install w32codecs
[02:43] <johndarkhorse> sybariten: go right ahead with yoru commandline creation
[02:43] <_n00blar_> locomorto, ok, I think i pasted in the right channel
[02:43] <locomorto> You sure?
[02:43] <x[BrB] x> got it
[02:43] <locomorto> _n00blar_: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:43] <j0nas`> apokryphos: do you happen to know the update-alternatives command to add sun jdk?
[02:43] <daaku> khermans: a little more specific?
[02:43] <locomorto> goto that site
[02:43] <khermans> x[BrB] x, so it installed
[02:43] <apokryphos> j0nas`: how exactly would update-alternatives add the jdk?
[02:44] <Kyral> what what what now?
[02:44] <Kyral> the sunjdk package is gone?
[02:44] <apokryphos> Kyral: yes, and j2re
[02:44] <j0nas`> sorry add apropriate symlinks
[02:44] <j0nas`> appropriate*
[02:44] <Kyral> ...psh who needs them
[02:44] <Kyral> stops a load of banner ads :D
[02:44] <_n00blar_> ok, maybe i'm not familiar with pasting on that channel
[02:44] <apokryphos> Kyral: an awful lot of people, apparently :D
[02:45] <khermans> daaku, xserver-xorg ?
[02:45] <DansFloyd> whats a good TV tuner program for Linux?
[02:45] <apokryphos> j0nas`: not quite sure, I'm afraid.
[02:45] <j0nas`> ok thanks...
[02:45] <khermans> DansFloyd, try mythtv if you want the whole TiVi thing
[02:45] <cafuego_> If they'd used to NORMAL way toa dd java, as opposed to a non-legal apckage, they'd be fine. Blame whoever broke the wiki.
[02:45] <locomorto> DansFloyd: MythTV
[02:45] <DansFloyd> thanks
[02:45] <j0nas`> dansfloyd: xawtv or motv as well
[02:46] <daaku> khermans: maybe the output of dpkg -S /etc/X11/X ?
[02:46] <DansFloyd> i can i install MythTVfrom synaptic?
[02:47] <x[BrB] x> khermans im done
[02:47] <x[BrB] x> it still not working
[02:47] <khermans> x[BrB] x, did you install all the codecs and plugins -- including the gstreamer-plugins ?
[02:48] <daaku> khermans: i'm doing a fine tuned install of the modularized xorg packages to see what i *really* need
[02:48] <bur[n] er> ooh... the new lock screen rules :)
[02:48] <khermans> x[BrB] x, i would try installing vlc and playing things with that -- because all codecs are legal
[02:49] <DansFloyd> nevermind i found it. Thanks!
[02:49] <x[BrB] x> do i have to install all of them
[02:49] <_n00blar_> Ok, how do i paste stuff on past.ubuntulinux.nl ...i don't think joining this does it
[02:49] <SPCcrow> is there a ubuntu package for the JRE
[02:49] <khermans> x[BrB] x, yes all that were listed on the #codecs link i sent you
[02:49] <Madpilot> SPCcrow: in hoary-extras there is
[02:50] <locomorto> its a website
[02:50] <SPCcrow> Madpilot: Do you know the name of it?
[02:50] <khermans> x[BrB] x, lame are probably the only MP3 related ones
[02:50] <poningru> !tell SPCcrow about java
[02:50] <Madpilot> spine55: search for j2re in Synaptic, if you've got -extras repo enabled
[02:50] <daaku> could someone on breezy do me a favor and give me the output of dpkg -S /etc/X11/X ?
[02:50] <locomorto> _n00blar_ did you go to the website?
[02:50] <j0nas`> madpilot: its not there anymore
[02:50] <apokryphos> Madpilot, SPCcrow: java was taken out of hoary-extras
[02:50] <j0nas`> its been removed
[02:50] <poningru> wtf
[02:51] <_n00blar_> locomorto, ok done
[02:51] <j0nas`> which btw sucks big time
[02:51] <SPCcrow> Noticed that one..
[02:51] <cycom> hey, I've got an ntfs drive that I want my normal user to be able to access from gentoo. I don't have permissions to access the partition
[02:51] <Madpilot> apokryphos, j0nas`, SPCcrow: hmmm... I guess I've still got it listed because it's installed here...
[02:51] <apokryphos> cycom: if it's in fstab, just change the umask
[02:51] <daaku> cycom: read only?
[02:52] <apokryphos> Madpilot: yup
[02:52] <cycom> daaku: ya
[02:52] <_n00blar_> locomorto, I have installed Sun java 1.5 and I've got all the env. variables set in my .bashrc_profile
[02:52] <cycom> apokryphos: umask?
[02:52] <Madpilot> apokryphos: well, that sucks... I guess it's still installable from the Sun website...
[02:52] <apokryphos> Madpilot: yeah, but a sucky alternative :P
[02:52] <khermans> daaku, i didnt get anything
[02:52] <apokryphos> Madpilot: unfortunately the ubuntulinux.nl doesn't have a hoary repo anymore
[02:52] <daaku> cycom: what apokryphos said, change the umask or change the uid (if you only want it to be readable by one specific user)
[02:53] <apokryphos> Madpilot: so no java from there
[02:53] <locomorto> _n00blar_ try purging j2re-1.4.2
[02:53] <locomorto> sudo dpkg --purge j2re-1.4.2
[02:53] <khermans> daaku, but /usr/bin/X gives xserver-common
[02:53] <cycom> daaku: there isn't really a manpage on it directly. where can I find man info?
[02:53] <daaku> khermans: alright, thanks
[02:53] <apokryphos> cycom: yes, as an option.
[02:53] <_n00blar_> locomorto, oh, ok...I've been searching using synaptic and nothing came up. let me try that
[02:53] <cycom> apokryphos: same question
[02:53] <Madpilot> apokryphos: the mirrormax backports doesn't have it?
[02:53] <apokryphos> cycom: there is; man fstab
[02:54] <cycom> ok. thanks!
[02:54] <apokryphos> Madpilot: that is hoary-extras, nope.
[02:54] <daaku> cycom: man mount will help
[02:54] <locomorto> try just j2re1.4
[02:54] <Madpilot> apokryphos: isn't Breezy going to ship with one of the Free Javas installed?
[02:54] <locomorto> yes
[02:54] <apokryphos> Madpilot: Breezy Multiverse has Blackdown java though; and ubuntulinux has all the sun packs for breezy
[02:54] <locomorto> it ships with blackdown
[02:54] <_n00blar_> hmmm...nada
[02:54] <apokryphos> Madpilot: correct, yes. In Multiverse.
[02:55] <locomorto> it does not work out of the box with limewire though
[02:55] <_n00blar_> I'm getting: ignoring request to remove j2re1.4 which isn't installed.
[02:55] <_n00blar_> locomorto, nope
[02:55] <apokryphos> _n00blar_: what's the problem?
[02:55] <khermans> Madpilot, i think the jre is installed by default
[02:55] <locomorto> check the paste site
[02:55] <apokryphos> khermans: on breezy? Not at all, nope.
[02:56] <khermans> why did i have java ?
[02:56] <locomorto> it is
[02:56] <apokryphos> khermans: why do you have it? Because you installed it?
[02:56] <locomorto> If you do a clean install then you get it
[02:56] <daaku> khermans: could you tell me if /etc/X11/X is a symlink to something? (startx dies saying no such file for /etc/X11/X)
[02:56] <khermans> i definitely dindt install the jre, but i have it
[02:56] <locomorto> khermans: dont worry
[02:56] <locomorto> khermans: it was preinstalled for me too
[02:56] <apokryphos> khermans: Breezy doesn't ship with multiverse, so it can't really be installed by default.
[02:56] <_n00blar_> 1.4 came with breezy...and my copy of limewire will not work...I tried installing 1.5 and i can't get limewire to use 1.5 instead of 1.4.2
[02:56] <khermans> daaku, /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/Xorg
[02:56] <daaku> khermans: nice, thanks
[02:56] <apokryphos> perhaps if you enalbe multiverse it is, I don't know.
[02:57] <locomorto> Ok, BREEZY = JAVA BY ****ING DEFAULT
[02:57] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: breezy comes with some "free" java stuff
[02:57] <apokryphos> What java?
[02:58] <locomorto> blackdown
[02:58] <_n00blar_> yes, and it's called gij from what I gather
[02:58] <apokryphos> the j2re pack is in *Multiverse*
[02:58] <locomorto> BUT IT IS INSTALLED BY DEFAULT
[02:58] <khermans> apokryphos, blackdown is not in universe
[02:58] <thoreauputic> locomorto: cu the shouting please
[02:58] <thoreauputic> *cut out
[02:58] <apokryphos> khermans: I never said it was
[02:59] <thoreauputic> gij = free java
[02:59] <_n00blar_> This is the java installed: /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[02:59] <_n00blar_> thoreauputic, yes..that's the one
[02:59] <thoreauputic> right, gcj
[02:59] <khermans> gcj is great for compiling java code to machine code
[03:00] <khermans> instead of into IML
[03:00] <gamer7> hi
[03:00] <apokryphos> locomorto: errr, that's quite different to j2re (as I said), gcj is just a GNU java compiler
[03:00] <zburns> getting an error compiling MPlayer under Breezy - can anybody help moi?
[03:00] <khermans> zburns, just install one from the repos instead
[03:00] <_n00blar_> sorush20, is it ok to remove it?  gij, that is.
[03:00] <gamer7> what folder do i find the installed apps after using wine
[03:00] <apokryphos> locomorto: and read this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.list -- maybe try a search for j2re; that's right, it's not there.
[03:00] <khermans> zburns, sudo aptitude install mplayer-386 i assume
[03:02] <zburns> khermans, didn't see it in a repo and aptitude didn't find anything either.
[03:02] <khermans> zburns, do you have universe and multiverse
[03:02] <apokryphos> zburns: you have to enable the Multiverse repository
[03:02] <_n00blar_> hah, gij4.0 is required for openoffice 2.0 !!
[03:02] <zburns> khermans, ah, let me check multiverse
[03:03] <apokryphos> zburns: add "multiverse" to any line that has "universe", then sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude install mplayer-386
[03:03] <khermans> apokryphos, i think the preferred apt manager is aptitude now
[03:03] <DansFloyd> does anyone know how to setup myth TV? ive got it installed useing synaptic... now i need to set it up
[03:04] <apokryphos> khermans: it's a matter of preference for many things, but yes, I use it a lot.
[03:04] <khermans> aptitude seems to be a better replacement for apt-get
[03:04] <_n00blar_> DansFloyd, mythtv.org has detailed info on that
[03:04] <khermans> it was just funny because you used both in your command sequence there
[03:04] <johndarkhorse> khermans: whatever floats your boat. synaptic/kynaptic is a gui frontend, aptitude a console one
[03:04] <zburns> khermans, that was it, thanks!
[03:05] <apokryphos> khermans: update comes more naturally with apt-get :). Not that there's any reason an aptitude update is any different..
[03:05] <khermans> zburns, np
[03:05] <khermans> one nice thing about aptitude is that it offers better searching i think
[03:05] <apokryphos> khermans: apt-get can be annoying sometimes (not telling you about some excellent other packs), as can aptitude (installing a zillion language packs for you).
[03:06] <apokryphos> khermans: how so? apt-cache search works well.
[03:06] <khermans> apokryphos, for instance apt-cache will return mane packages that dont have your search term
[03:06] <khermans> but aptitude wont
[03:07] <jk-> khermans: it searches the name, description and summary.
[03:07] <cafuego_> khermans: They *do* have the term, just in the extended destription field, that's not shown.
[03:07] <apokryphos> khermans: it uses the description and apt-cache show info, yes. You can always just use a pipe w/ith it (I do)
[03:07] <khermans> cafuego, right, but that can get really confusing when you have some major lib
[03:07] <_n00blar_> So I guess there's no way to remove Gij so I can tell limewire to use java 1.5 instead of the default?
[03:08] <jk-> Gij ?
[03:08] <_n00blar_> gij the free java that comes with breezy
[03:08] <apokryphos> jk-: a gnu java compiler
[03:08] <jk-> ah.
[03:09] <cafuego_> khermans: I'm sure you can change the baviour in some way, if it bugs you.
[03:09] <cafuego_> behaviour too
[03:09] <test34> so there should be no problems upgrading from hoary to breezy ?
[03:09] <cafuego_> test34: Not after october 13, no.
[03:09] <khermans> cafuego, its all about the default settings -- and ease of use
[03:09] <test34> cafuego, ok
[03:09] <jk-> test34: did it last week, all worked fine.
[03:09] <apokryphos> test34: breezy doesn't have official stable status yet
[03:09] <khermans> cafuego, n00bs can make debian do everything ubuntu does -- but Ubuntu does it out of the box
[03:10] <test34> apokryphos, It works pretty good with a clean install but I was wondering about upgrades..
[03:10] <khermans> hehe
[03:10] <Bad_Magic> can anyone help me get the firefox mplayer plugin working? it just freezes at 99% cached and playing things thru mplayer (not the plugin) doesnt work either
[03:10] <jojomonkey> anyone know why muine crashes/freezes in ubuntu if esd is not being used ?
[03:10] <khermans> cafuego, have you ever installed Debian yourself ?
[03:10] <apokryphos> test34: stable -> stable apt upgrade is fully supported, yes
[03:11] <cafuego_> test34: it *should* work, but if something goes wrong, you'll probably get more sarcasm then help ;-)
[03:11] <khermans> there is a major difference in necessary knowledge level
[03:11] <cafuego_> khermans: I've used Linux in nearly all flavours since 1994.
[03:11] <apokryphos> cafuego_: it's more help these days, really!
[03:11] <test34> ok thanks cafuego and apokryphos
[03:11] <astartoth> hi there.
[03:11] <cafuego_> apokryphos: I can't speak for others ;-)
[03:11] <khermans> cafuego, well i dont think many people in this channel could stomach a default Debian install and setup on a new leptop
[03:12] <astartoth> how can i put those neat [ ok ]  status on every service during boot on a sarge ? any ideas?
[03:12] <Absenth> does anyone have a link to a Sharing linux resources via samba for idiots guide?
[03:13] <cafuego_> khermans: Yes, but then, on the #debian channel I've learned that is sually due to them not reading a SINGLE screen with info during the install. making an install accessible for newbies is a different issue to streamlining it for lazy bastards.
[03:13] <cafuego_> astartoth: Wrong channel, try #debian
[03:14] <astartoth> they told me to ask you guys
[03:14] <khermans> cafuego, how about a grandmother who doesnt care how the computer works, just that "it works"
[03:14] <khermans> you probably dont care about every thing your car does, just that it gets you from home to work
[03:14] <johndarkhorse> Absenth: sharing with windows or another *nix box?
[03:14] <Absenth> johndarkhorse, currently I'd like to share to a windows computer.
[03:15] <Absenth> johndarkhorse, the printer is local on the linux computer.
[03:15] <cafuego_> khermans: They wouldn't install it themselves, but buy a pre-install. Same thing she would now, with a Dell or Mac.
[03:15] <newbie99> good evening
[03:15] <johndarkhorse> Absenth: barring anyone answering in here, uncle google has many links to "samba howto"
[03:15] <test34> when you stop remote desktop the app (System - Preferences - Remote Desktop) by unchecking "Allow users to view your desktop" you get an error ? is that a bug
[03:15] <dabaR_> buenas, newbie99
[03:15] <nail> ...
[03:15] <Seveas> test34, that is a bug
[03:16] <Absenth> johndarkhorse, true.  Unfortunatly a great number of them go back to when samba sucked bad, and another great number of them are not idiot friendly :)
[03:16] <newbie99> could someone direct me to some material that explains how to install software inside of linux
[03:16] <khermans> cafuego, and what if she had to reinstall it herself ?  from the OS cd?
[03:16] <test34> ok thanks Seveas
[03:16] <Absenth> johndarkhorse, however I appreciate the assistance all the same.
[03:16] <johndarkhorse> Absenth: have you checked wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation   ?
[03:17] <Kyral> Seveas, you are right. Double logging into X is really ugly
[03:17] <Seveas> khermans, grandma would ask her grandson to do that...
[03:17] <Seveas> Kyral, yeah it is
[03:17] <test34> is ubuntu all python ?
[03:17] <khermans> cafuego, im not saying youre wrong, im just saying that computers are about automating borings tasks
[03:17] <Kyral> and it boned my system to the point of having to reboot for some reason
[03:17] <Seveas> btw: your setup would work, tunneling VNC over NX too, but it is still as slow as vnc (the local vnc connection is the bottleneck)
[03:17] <dabaR_> newbie99: do you use ubuntu?
[03:18] <newbie99> yes
[03:18] <Seveas> test34, ubuntu promotes python
[03:18] <Seveas> but most of it is written in C
[03:18] <dabaR>  /msg ubotu tell newbie99 about synaptic
[03:18] <Kyral> what about logging into VNC, logging out of GNOME there, then logging into FreeNX?
[03:18] <Seveas> that would work, but you might as well log out before leaving :)
[03:18] <test34> Seveas, should promote ruby;)
[03:18] <newbie99> synaptic???
[03:19] <Kyral> Seveas: I strive to make it look like I have an incredible uptime :D
[03:19] <dabaR> newbie99: did you get messages from ubotu? if so, read the linked documents
[03:19] <Seveas> logging out does not ruin your uptime ;(
[03:19] <Seveas> ;)
[03:19] <newbie99> no
[03:19] <Seveas>  03:19:37 up 1 day,  5:37,  3 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.14, 0.17
[03:19] <Kyral> from an IM point of view it does :P
[03:19] <dabaR> newbie99: what program are you using?
[03:19] <newbie99> irc
[03:19] <newbie99> x chat
[03:20] <dabaR> Seveas: you use xchat?
[03:20] <Seveas> yes
[03:20] <dabaR> why is he not getting ubotu messages?
[03:20] <test34> I can easily get 2 weeks uptime in windows now, wow..;)
[03:20] <dabaR> Seveas: ^
[03:20] <Seveas> because he does not look good enough...
[03:20] <Kyral> I could go for massive uptime
[03:20] <Kyral> but I like to tweak
[03:21] <Seveas> I like keeping my kernel up-to-date more than massive uptime...
[03:21] <dabaR> ok. newbie99 there are tabs along the top, I think, or the bottom, it should say ubotu, click on it
[03:21] <Kyral> so I'm always going back into the BIOS to see if there is anyway to juice an extra bit of speed outta my system :P
[03:21] <newbie99> i see now
[03:21] <dabaR> newbie99: good, read the linked docs. that is all you need to know about installing, and the ask the bot is useful.
[03:22] <dabaR> newbie99: btw, installing on linux is dependent on the gnu/linux distro you use, debian, and derivatives, like ubuntu, use the apt system. Synaptic is a gui for the apt system.
[03:24] <durt> anyone know how to graph a differential equation in gnuplot?
[03:24] <paco_> hey, how do I change the default OS that grub loads?
[03:24] <Seveas> paco_, by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:24] <Bad_Magic> Anyone help me get mplayer working? it freezes everytime i try to open a video
[03:24] <dabaR> paco_: the gtrub config file tells you that, that is the file^
[03:24] <newbie99> dabar thank you
[03:24] <Seveas> Bad_Magic, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[03:25] <paco_> thanks!
[03:26] <dabaR> or if the file dont tell you, read the referenced online manual pages, known as manpages. the ones on the top of the dile.
[03:26] <dabaR> paco_: ^
[03:26] <djm62> When my laptop isn't plugged in and I close the lid, I want it to sleep: can somebody guide me as to what to modify in /etc/acpi/ to make this happen?
[03:26] <Seveas> djm62, /etc/acpi/lid.sh is a start
[03:26] <paco_> thanks guys. gonna test this out. ttyl
[03:27] <Bad_Magic> seveas: no dice
[03:27] <djm62> Seveas: yeah, I modified that in a way that I thought was right, but it now sleeps if I close the lid, then open it again, and I'm not sure what I'm missing
[03:28] <ksmurf> Can anyone tell me how I can repair my battery moniter in breezy?
[03:28] <Seveas> djm62, then you put it at the wrong part :)
[03:28] <locomorto> ksmurf: whats wrong with it?
[03:28] <dabaR> heh, the menu.lst file says: "Pretty colours"
[03:29] <sorush20> Seveas: can you still ban.
[03:29] <Xenguy> hello - I installed Ubuntu on an old lap-top this weekend, and everything went nicely except for these *dreadful* fonts that appear everywhere now (menus, editors, you name it).  Also the screen resolution is 800X600, and AFAIK the windows installation was able to do better than that.  Can anyone suggest how I can improve the font appearance (and secondly, if possible, the screen resolution) ?
[03:29] <Seveas> sorush20, ?
[03:29] <hybrid> save me! someone talk me out of putting gento on my other computer
[03:30] <sorush20> Seveas: I don't see you as an Op
[03:30] <dabaR> hybrid: are you the hybrid_goth?
[03:30] <ksmurf> loco... it's not working.  No matter what the battery doesn't show it's charge and it always says I'm plugged in
[03:30] <jtan325> anyone here use amarok without kde?
[03:30] <dabaR> sorush20: he gets ops when he needs it.
[03:30] <Seveas> :)
[03:30] <Seveas> hybrid, do you like watching gcc output fly by?
[03:30] <dabaR> oh, I hate that.
[03:30] <sorush20> dabaR are you and op too..
[03:31] <dabaR> no.
[03:31] <dabaR> thanks for asking.
[03:31] <jk-> hybrid: http://funroll-loops.org/
[03:31] <Seveas> sorush20, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[03:31] <hybrid> dabaR: yes
[03:31] <hybrid> Seveas: depends lol
[03:31] <ksmurf> loco... any idEAS?
[03:32] <DaaJeH> Hello
[03:32] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: well, then, what can I tell you...I definitely think you should try it.
[03:32] <djm62> damn, there isn't a right part
[03:32] <hybrid_goth> i wanna try portage
[03:33] <dabaR> hybrid_goth: if you like it better, all the better for you. And you are sure to learn something new, which is good.
[03:33] <BlueEagle> ksmurf: Have you checked to see if there's a but-report on that issue already?
[03:33] <hybrid_goth> dabaR: true
[03:33] <BlueEagle> bug-report
[03:33] <ksmurf> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame
[03:33] <silverton> how do I find out what groups a user belongs to?
[03:33] <DaaJeH> I have a question!
[03:33] <thoreauputic> 8)
[03:33] <sorush20> This is to all the regular people on Ubuntu chan, A lot of the question here are about getting a computer to be a multimedia machine just like windows, Is there a project out there at searches your config and sets up your computer for you, eg, install Java, flash plugin, mplayer, xmms, acroread, xine, printer scanner,
[03:34] <Seveas> silverton, groups username_here
[03:34] <ksmurf> BlueEagle   I would if I knew where.... I saw something in the forums but the dates were old
[03:34] <snausages> hey guys, how can i let file roller spread my data into zip archives that are 9mb each?
[03:34] <Bad_Magic> sorush20: www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:34] <silverton> Seveas, thanks
[03:34] <Bad_Magic> has a walkthrough
[03:34] <dabaR> sorush20: search the forums, there is. I cant remember a keyword for you, like, easy, quick install, or something.
[03:34] <Bad_Magic> for the codec installs
[03:34] <Bad_Magic> and such
[03:34] <Seveas> sorush20, there is ongoing effort into making ubuntu rock
[03:35] <botbuilder> at least windows has decent installation stuff
[03:35] <Seveas> java and evince (pdf reader) are there to stay on breezy
[03:35] <locomorto> sorush20: EasyUbuntu
[03:35] <DaaJeH> When you minimize the window,it disapears
[03:35] <Seveas> botbuilder, rofl
[03:35] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: bah
[03:35] <DaaJeH> How do you get it back?
[03:35] <Seveas> windows installers are crap
[03:35] <dabaR> sorush20: locomorto's keyword is what I was thinking of.
[03:35] <BlueEagle> ksmurf: Then file one for breezy with your hardware. These features should be detected and work out of the box, and if it doesn't you should file a bug report.   Linux supports more types of hardware than Windoze.......  It's the vendors that provide the drivers that make windows even work
[03:36] <BlueEagle> sorush20: There is one but it is currently not working as w32codecs has mysteriously disappeard from the hoary-extras repository.
[03:36] <Plazma> hi all, i was working fine on my airport clamshell ibook and then all of a sudden i have no network, airport card is recognized, but now it wont let me ping or go anywhere
[03:36] <botbuilder> I get 'failed to start X server'
[03:36] <botbuilder> in a dialog box
[03:36] <BlueEagle> sorush20: I even think it's in the wiki or in ubuntuguide (last one is unofficial)
[03:36] <DaaJeH> dabar:I'm using ubuntu
[03:36] <botbuilder> and the screen is messed up with a ton of random charachters
[03:37] <botbuilder> never had problems with windows.
[03:37] <dabaR> botbuilder: please refrain from the enter a little. everything is scrolling off my screen.
[03:37] <wastrel> have they unsuckified the save file dialogs in the new gnome?
[03:37] <botbuilder> every linux distro ive tred has failed.
[03:37] <botbuilder> oh. sorry.
[03:37] <ksmurf> BlueEagle... i wasn't complaining bout the preview.  I know things are still being fixed..... I've never filed a bug report bug I'll try
[03:37] <dabaR> botbuilder: graphics card?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: and you blame that on linux? Prize for logical thinking...
[03:37] <BlueEagle> ksmurf: Thanks. :)
[03:37] <botbuilder> lol
[03:38] <BlueEagle> ksmurf: Only if people point out errors will they be fixed you know. :)
[03:38] <botbuilder> well, it does install ok
[03:38] <botbuilder> I can do stuff inside the console
[03:38] <cycom> awright! somone's head is going to roll! GAIM thinks 'Ubuntu' is a spelling mistake!!
[03:38] <dabaR> DaaJeH: do you have a window open now? do you have a bar on the bottom of the screen? does it show the open window in a little rectangle?
[03:38] <ksmurf> I know ..... I'll try to word it right
[03:38] <botbuilder> startup vim lol
[03:38] <thoreauputic> cycom: hahah
[03:38] <BlueEagle> sorush20: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-0fe260de2044dc5389a0314a55a72f59dd67f586
[03:38] <dabaR> botbuilder: vim is no laughing matter:) what graphs card?
[03:38] <botbuilder> radeon X700
[03:39] <dabaR> botbuilder: ask ubotu about ati
[03:39] <botbuilder> the newness could be a prob
[03:39] <BlueEagle> sorush20: just need to be fixed so it doesn't err out on not finding w32codecs.
[03:39] <ksmurf> I'll use the bug report tool... Is that ok Blue Eagle?
[03:39] <BlueEagle> ksmurf: That should be "the right way"(tm) to file a bug report.
[03:39] <ksmurf> on a funny note.... Am I a geek if I bring my laptop to bed with me?
[03:40] <sorush20> BlueEagle: thanks..
[03:40] <dabaR> ksmurf: no.
[03:40] <dabaR> or yes, define geek.
[03:40] <silverton> wow, guild wars looks fscked up in cedega >.>
[03:40] <DaaJeH> dabar: I do have 2 windows open, and I do have a bar on the buttom,but it doesn't show a little rectagle
[03:40] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: no, a pervert ;-)
[03:40] <pc22> how can i have a local linux network neighborhood?
[03:40] <botbuilder> uboto, ati
[03:40] <DaaJeH> There is in the corner a Trash thing
[03:41] <botbuilder> uboto ati
[03:41] <thoreauputic> !ati
[03:41] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:41] <dabaR> DaaJeH: right click on the bar, a.k.a gnome-panel. add to panel. add window list
[03:41] <ksmurf> my wife says she's 8 moths prego so I might as well.....
[03:41] <Agrajag> his name is ubotu, why don't you just use tab completion?
[03:41] <dabaR> botbuilder: his name is ubotu.
[03:41] <botbuilder> eh
[03:41] <botbuilder> never got in the habit
[03:42] <silverton> !nvidia
[03:42] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:42] <ssdd65> will a binary built for Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5 run on ubuntu?
[03:42] <botbuilder> usually i type the first 4 letters or so of someones name and leave it at that
[03:42] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: now is a good time to start :)
[03:42] <botbuilder> ok, thoreauputic
[03:42] <sorush20> BlueEagle: I think it would be fantastic.. if the features were added at first boot after an internet connection is detected.. I'm assuming there are rules against it distribution on the UbuntuCD
[03:42] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: aha! i actually saw that you were addressing me!
[03:42] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[03:42] <botbuilder> ;)
[03:42] <DaaJeH> dabar: Thank you very much
[03:43] <DaaJeH> I got it now
[03:43] <dabaR> DaaJeH: worked? wanna know another way to switch b/w windows?
[03:43] <sorush20> *grin*
[03:43] <ksmurf> is there a way to autheticate the extra repo?
[03:43] <DaaJeH> Yes dabar
[03:43] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: in a busy channel unless you tab-complete, people will miss what you say
[03:43] <BlueEagle> "Well, this is a great development for Vorbis hardware support. From January 2006 onwards all Golf, Golf Plus and Touran models will offer an USB port, which support USB sticks with music. Supported formats include MP3, WAV, WMA and Ogg Vorbis."  <= This has to be "a good thing"(tm), don't you think?
[03:43] <ssdd65> will a binary built for Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5 run on ubuntu?
[03:44] <sorush20> it could be less  easier if someone developed threaded IRC
[03:44] <dabaR> alt+tab, I use that all the time. Also, check out System>Prefs>Windows(or the like) find default behavior for double clicking the title bar, and change to roll up, then save out of that window thing, and double click on a windows title bar.
[03:44] <sybariten> anyone know how to get this character: "|"  on a Macintosh?
[03:44] <dabaR> DaaJeH: ^
[03:44] <ksmurf> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[03:44] <dabaR> sybariten: what mac?
[03:44] <ksmurf> oops
[03:44] <Plazma> hi all, i was working fine on my airport clamshell ibook and then all of a sudden i have no network, airport card is recognized, but now it wont let me ping or go anywhere
[03:44] <sybariten> a.k.a. the biggest marketing plot ever conceived for a lame ass piece of shite machine
[03:44] <sybariten> its an iMac DV
[03:45] <BlueEagle> sorush20: Well, these are not open standards and thus they are depreciated as long as there are open standards of equal or better quality. Ogg Vorbis is a very good replacement for mp3.
[03:45] <DaaJeH> CoOl
[03:45] <DaaJeH> Thank you very much
[03:45] <dabaR> $20
[03:45] <dabaR> hah
[03:45] <ssdd65> will a binary built for Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5 run on ubuntu?
[03:45] <DaaJeH> lol
[03:45] <dabaR> ssdd65: why are you trying to use that?
[03:46] <BlueEagle> ssdd65: Which binary?
[03:46] <sorush20> quit
[03:46] <ssdd65> because i really dont want to complie the program from sorce
[03:46] <BlueEagle> ssdd65: which program?
[03:46] <ssdd65> its a binary for NVU
[03:46] <dabaR> sybariten: are you sure your kybd does not just show you what to press? try the fn key...
[03:46] <johndarkhorse> !tell ssdd65 about nvu
[03:47] <BlueEagle> johndarkhorse: Dang, you beat me to it. :p
[03:47] <ssdd65> NVU
[03:47] <dabaR> | is a common POSIX thing, and mac osX is POSIX compliant, I believe.
[03:47] <ssdd65> html editor
[03:47] <sybariten> dabaR: uh?  ...  and there are no Fn keys on desktop machines
[03:47] <BlueEagle> ssdd65: read what ubotu told you.
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> sybariten: use shift+\
[03:47] <ssdd65> i did...
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> sybariten: on a us keyboard anyway
[03:48] <johndarkhorse> ssdd65: using pkgs made for other distros can cause ubuntu to fail
[03:48] <dabaR> BlueEagle: sent him the nvu factoid?
[03:48] <ssdd65> o
[03:48] <BlueEagle> dabar: johndarkhorse did.
[03:48] <dabaR> heh, its up there.
[03:48] <ssdd65> so should i try a compile?
[03:48] <WebLOCH> Hello all
[03:48] <Inf3ctedfx> Hi, ppl, what is the commando to install debian packges? is:  dkpg?
[03:48] <WebLOCH> Hi again dabaR
[03:48] <apokryphos> dpkg -i <package>
[03:48] <dabaR> ssdd65: you should read the referenced docs.
[03:48] <sybariten> and i would never run os X, at least running *nix makes me not throw this machine out the balcony and onto the street ...
[03:48] <dabaR> hey, WebLOCH .
[03:48] <WebLOCH> I am back with even more questions
[03:49] <WebLOCH> This time simpler I hope :P
[03:49] <sybariten> johndarkhorse: come to think of it ... i dont even know how to make a \
[03:49] <Inf3ctedfx> thx apokryphos
[03:49] <get_VoIP_here> Uhhh - you again
[03:49] <sybariten> its not written on the kb
[03:49] <get_VoIP_here> (just kidding
[03:49] <dabaR> Inf3ctedfx: why are you installing a .deb instead of through synaptic/aptitude?
[03:49] <johndarkhorse> ssdd65: the instructions are quite easy to follow from the factoid
[03:49] <ssdd65> unless there is a ubuntu package out there for it...?
[03:49] <ssdd65> ok
[03:49] <johndarkhorse> sybariten: look under the "delete" key
[03:49] <Inf3ctedfx> well, dabaR , I'm installing Skype
[03:50] <dabaR> ok, valid reason.
[03:50] <dabaR> Inf3ctedfx: read the wiki page on installing? ask ubotu about skype
[03:50] <get_VoIP_here> Inf3ctedfx: Ahhhh!!! Skype is eeeeeeeeeeeeeevil....
[03:50] <WebLOCH> Does anyone know of a way to test to see if a repository has been added correctly?
[03:50] <jk-> heh
[03:51] <jk-> WebLOCH: how do you mean added?
[03:51] <Inf3ctedfx> get_VoIP_here: what about Gizmo Project?
[03:51] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: apt-get update would fail if the syntax in the file was incorrect
[03:51] <dabaR> WebLOCH: try installing something from it. if it reloads when you update the package list, its good
[03:51] <BlueEagle> webloch: if you run sudo apt-get update and don't get any error messages it has been added correctly.
[03:51] <ssdd65> nice... it says the one for linspire will work....
[03:51] <BlueEagle> webloch: if you're looking for w32codecs it's mysteriously disappeared from hoary-extras.
[03:51] <dabaR> BlueEagle: know about aptitude?
[03:51] <WebLOCH> Well I have added the Hoary Extras repository, however the JDK and JRE do not show up
[03:51] <sambagirl> will  MAMBO RUN under ubuntu?
[03:51] <Inf3ctedfx> !skype
[03:51] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[03:51] <Seveas> WebLOCH, run apt-get update. If it errors out there's an error :)
[03:51] <sybariten> johndarkhorse: well thats maybe the best part ... the machine has no "delete" key
[03:51] <johndarkhorse> BlueEagle: send them to the right place now
[03:51] <ksmurf> !w32codecs
[03:51] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:51] <jk-> WebLOCH: or just 'apt-cache show <package that should be in repo>'
[03:51] <WebLOCH> No errors, just not finding somethingf I expected
[03:52] <BlueEagle> dabar: No, I haven't read up on it yet. Do you want to tell me about it?
[03:52] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: they were taken out of there, that's why. :)
[03:52] <WebLOCH> haha
[03:52] <BlueEagle> apokryphos: I use TAB to autocomplete nicks.
[03:52] <WebLOCH> Someone should update the wiki
[03:52] <Seveas> jk-, that only works after an apt-get update ;)
[03:52] <jk-> that'll tell you about all the versions of <package> that are available
[03:52] <ssdd65> thanks
[03:52] <jk-> Seveas: yep :)
[03:52] <Seveas> WebLOCH, what are you looking for?
[03:52] <WebLOCH> JDK and JRE
[03:52] <WebLOCH> JDK more importantly
[03:52] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: they're no longer there; legal reasons.