[03:25] <luis_> si esto es soporte de kubuntu, alguien puede decirme como montar el CD ROM?
[07:44] <lordievader> Good morning
 Good Morning , does kde plasma support changing interface language ?
[08:05] <imacpro> Press start/type language/add language of choice/use
[09:53] <Metamorphosis> Hello. Is Falkon browser unsupported and dormant?
 @AbuDergham, No idea
[10:35] <Hanii> Is there any way of getting the icons-only task manager to show window previews instead of icons, or is there any alternative to the icons-only task manager that does that?
[10:36] <Hanii> I'm trying to get a view of minimised windows in latte dock in a similar way to how minimised windows are handled in OS X
[12:05] <Kurozen> Hello
[12:05] <Kurozen> How do I increase size of the cliboard history? Find 10 items a bit too low.
[12:05] <Kurozen> Even tho even that's huge versus no history.
[12:30] <MrSassyPants> Question: Why does sudo require several seconds after a reboot to show the password prompt and how do I fix it
[13:04] <lordievader> Might be a lookup of the hostname that is slow.
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:28] <Dragnslcr> Kurozen- right-click the clipboard icon and go to Configure Clipboard
[13:51] <Kurozen> Oh thanks a lot !!
 just got some updates for hirsute and after restart now I have two strange problems … 1. some indicators are missing ( network, volume ...) … 2. with k-runner I can't find applications any more … are there some libs still building or something?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> @derEremit, yes the system tray is missing and I've tried to add it back to the panel but it doesn't stick...also on 21.04 Hirsute
[15:24] <almo> hi
 @BluesKaj, are you guys using 21.04 ? 🤔
[15:29] <BluesKaj> yes,
[15:35] <BluesKaj> #ubuntu+1 is the official hirsute chat, but since most users there are on gnome or other DEs there aren't a lot of common bugs unless they're deeper than the the DE
[15:38] <BluesKaj> !pm | almo
[15:39] <almo> hey,my kubuntu OS crashed..creates like huge CUPS cache, how can I solve that?
[16:24] <Guest_57> Hello, does any one know why I can log in to kubuntu with linux machines, but not with windows? It always says "permission denied" when trying with putty.
 @derEremit, Probably due to the KDE frameworks 5.77 transition only being partially done.
 some very long and slow running QA tests are currently blocking some of the 83 source uploads from being available in the release pocket
 hi there. installer issue
 (Photo, 1440x591) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/e38lJWiQ/file_39851.jpg
 boot/repair tells me to put a boot flag on the ESP partition, but parted doesnt let me
 installer is crashing


[13:35] <Mirv> Saviq: hey heads up I plan to potentially land Qt 5.5 next week to xenial. is it ok for you after you've landed the 005? rebuild dances can be arranged too if needed, but just FYI.
[13:36] <Mirv> greyback: same to your direction regarding qtmir/qtubuntu
[13:36] <greyback> Mirv: I was planning a silo today, but can hold off if it would suit you
[13:37] <greyback> would prefer to do the rebuild dance, in case something blocks 5.5
[13:44] <Saviq> Mirv, fine with me
[13:54] <Mirv> greyback: you can have it (after 005 lands of course), no problem, just need to keep in sync who's landing at which point
[13:54] <Mirv> greyback: just don't break anything with Qt 5.5 :)
[13:55] <Mirv> the landing would be Wednesday earliest I'd think
[13:58] <greyback> Mirv: no prob
[14:00] <tsdgeos> Can you guys have a look at https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/4302c76b26cfe24f872e230af337604c782d809a
[14:00] <tsdgeos> and confirm it looks like we're quitting (__run_exit_handlers) and while quitting the onAccelerometerReading goes to qml land and crashes?
[14:01] <tsdgeos> potentially because we've already quit that part?
[14:06] <greyback> tsdgeos: that's a reasonable theory
[14:08] <tsdgeos> not if only i could reproduce it :D
[14:08] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: did you have any luck reproducing mzanetti's lock?
[14:08] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i'm wondering if it may not be "new" since https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1511063 is potentially the same?
[14:11] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, no i didn't. diff-updates are the main suspect, though finding out a way to reproduce would be helpful
[14:11] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ah, he said ota7 hmm
[14:12] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: so it's not diff-updates
[14:12] <tsdgeos> or it's a different bug D:
[14:20] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: so the lockup you get is on the krillin right?
[14:21] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes he got it on krillin
[14:23] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, so it only happened in the today scope when I had my self made scope installed
[14:23] <mzanetti> I tried to create a scope at some point that would show up in the news section of the the today scope
[14:24] <mzanetti> but I failed... so I left it half way installed on my device
[14:24] <mzanetti> the results were never showing up
[14:24] <mzanetti> starting with that diffed-updates branch it locked up with that tho
[14:27] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: and you could not repro without that "buggy scope"?
[14:29] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, nope
[14:30] <mzanetti> as soon as I removed that scope, all went back to normal
[14:30] <mzanetti> I still have the code here
[14:30] <mzanetti> will try to reinstall it when I get a chance
[14:53] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13526982/
[14:53] <tsdgeos> going to install some more debug packages
[14:53] <tsdgeos> any in particular?
[14:54] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, libunity-scopes, unity-plugin-scopes
[14:55] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, so you reproduced?
[14:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: is ↑↑↑ the backtrace you got or never got a bt?
[14:55] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: yep
[14:55] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i installed the scopes mentioned in the bug i pasted and just horizontally swipped
[14:55] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, no, never got a bt
[14:55] <tsdgeos> happened relatively fast
[14:55] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ok, will try these scopes too
[14:56] <mzanetti> oh, is there someone else with the same issue now?
[14:56] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: the question is if it's the same issue or not
[14:56] <pstolowski> mzanetti, yes, but his bug is for ota7
[14:56] <mzanetti> right...
[14:56] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: since he had it in ota7
[14:56] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, well, I got it on the device where I had installed the "bad" scope...
[14:57] <mzanetti> lol
[14:57]  * mzanetti got confused by scrollback :D
[14:57] <mzanetti> anyhow
[14:57] <mzanetti> it started after landing the diff updates
[14:57] <mzanetti> it did not happen before
[14:57] <mzanetti> even though that "bad" scope was installed since... I guess April
[14:58] <mzanetti> right, when we first supported 3rd party content in aggregators
[14:58] <mzanetti> that's when I tried
[14:59] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527039/
[14:59] <tsdgeos> mterry: isn't it assaul a supermarket day? :D
[15:00] <mterry> tsdgeos, :)
[15:00] <mterry> tsdgeos, it can be fun to people watch today
[15:00] <mterry> tsdgeos, but I've chosen instead to hide inside my apartment  :)
[15:00] <mterry> it'll blow over soon
[15:04] <mzanetti> pstolowski, what do I have to do to make the today scope pick up my scope?
[15:04] <mzanetti> pstolowski, I tried to reinstall the bad scope, but according to the log, the today scope doesn't even try to query it
[15:06] <pstolowski> mzanetti, was it queried before? refreshing (via pull-down) should be enough. also just in case check settings of today's scope and make sure you scope is on the list & enabled
[15:06] <mzanetti> pstolowski, it doesn't show up there
[15:08] <pstolowski> mzanetti, and it should be aggregated because it's using keywords?
[15:09] <mzanetti> afaiu, yes
[15:10] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i've added unity-scopes-shell to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scopes-shell/+bug/1511063  . Anything else i should add?
[15:12] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, heh, got it reproduced with the list of scopes from the bug report
[15:12] <tsdgeos> :)
[15:14] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, what is the last message you can see in unity8-dash.log?
[15:14] <pstolowski> (after it freezes)
[15:15] <tsdgeos> i rebooted it now to try to reproduce again
[15:15] <tsdgeos> ^_^
[15:15] <tsdgeos> let me see if i can
[15:16] <pstolowski> for me it froze between 500px and engadget scopes
[15:16] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13527207/
[15:16] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ok. interesting, it's alsmo mixcloudscope for me
[15:19] <pstolowski> yeah, and again mixcloud
[15:26] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, i just made a mistake of unfavoriting majority of the scopes, leaving mixcloud favorited, this gives blank dash on the boot since it's then queried on start :(
[15:26] <tsdgeos> lol
[15:26] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, and yes, removing it from favorites via gsettings fixes it. so it's this scope trigerring the problem
[15:27] <tsdgeos> nice
[15:27] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, opening this scope from manage dash (it's not favorited) also freezes
[15:28] <pstolowski> veeery interesting
[15:28] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i commented on the bug so the guy can at least use the phone again
[15:28] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, thanks
[15:33] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, this scope doesn't respond to search queries even when using scopes-client cli tool
[15:33] <tsdgeos> ouch :D
[15:33] <pstolowski> i need to talk to michi cause i think we should be timing out after a while
[15:34] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: shouldn't we be doing that in the non main thread anyway?
[15:34] <tsdgeos> i mean if the timeout is a second
[15:34] <tsdgeos> the whole ui would get stuck for a second?
[15:34] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes, absolutely, we do it asynchronously, so i;m not sure what's going wrong
[15:35] <tsdgeos> oh :/
[15:35] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, after a while we should get a callback with an error (timeout)
[15:36] <pstolowski> this scope doesn't seem to be available on LP :/
[15:49] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, oh lol
[15:50] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: swhat?
[15:50] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, look at the ini file of mixcloud scope
[15:50] <pstolowski> ScopeRunner=./qtc_device_debughelper.py scope com.ubuntu.developer.boghison.mixcloud_mixcloudscope /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/unity-scopes/scoperunner '' %S
[15:51] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, it's not actually really started at all
[15:51] <tsdgeos> i see
[16:11] <pstolowski> mzanetti, i wonder if you scope was misbehaving in similar way^ ?
[16:11] <pstolowski> + r
[16:19] <mzanetti> pstolowski, let me push it
[16:20] <mzanetti> pstolowski, lp:~mzanetti/+junk/swp-scope-with-aggregator-keyword
[16:29] <pstolowski> mzanetti, thanks, trying
[16:45] <tsdgeos> brrrr
[16:45] <tsdgeos> we do get a few valgrind warnings on desktop just by doing ./builddir/src/unity8
[16:45] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13528230/
[16:45] <tsdgeos> and
[16:45] <pstolowski> mzanetti, your scopes seems to be working. also no freezing with it
[16:46] <pstolowski> mzanetti, it doesn't appear in News or TOday scopes though
[16:46] <mzanetti> right...
[16:46] <tsdgeos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13528236/
[16:46] <tsdgeos> second one causes a segfault on close here
[16:46] <mzanetti> and uk left
[16:46] <pstolowski> mzanetti, i'm not sure if the versions i've right now on the phone do support keywords already or not?
[16:47] <mzanetti> pstolowski, I don't know either. I followed the doc on developer.ubuntu.com, but it wouldn't work
[16:47] <mzanetti> so far I thought I'd made a mistake and I gave up too early
[16:48] <pstolowski> mzanetti, need to check with kyleN if they utilize keywords already
[16:50] <mzanetti> pstolowski, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/guides/scope-keywords/
[16:50] <mzanetti> I would think yes
[17:20] <pstolowski> mzanetti, i'll ask kyleN next week
[17:20] <pstolowski> eow, see you
[17:20] <mzanetti> kk
[17:20] <mzanetti> o/
[19:13] <lpotter> note to self: do not name classes in libraries exactly the same as ones in Qt base... it will cause confusion and mental pain until you figure it out


[17:00] <mamarley> ricotz: 396 beta is apparently out.  I will handle it.
[17:09] <mamarley> It looks like this driver drops 32-bit support.
[17:24] <soee_> ;-)
[17:26] <tjaalton> that was on the news
[17:28] <soee_> mamarley: ping me when it lands in ppa
[17:36] <mamarley> Sadly, this new packaging scheme is going to make the packages for the 32-bit libraries *much* more tricky, since the 32-bit libraries actually come out of the 32-bit build.  That means we will need a 32-bit build of the driver even though it doesn't actually support 32-bit kernels, presumably with a different package set for each architecture.
[17:37] <mamarley> Implementing this very likely exceeds my capabilities.
[20:56] <ricotz> mamarley, sounds like fun :(
[20:57] <mamarley> ricotz: I gave up trying to get support for 32-bit libraries on Bionic.  I was able to get it to work for all previous releases though.
[20:58] <mamarley> I have packages up in https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages, but for Bionic there is no support for 32-bit applications on 64-bit kernels.
[20:59] <ricotz> I see
[21:31] <JanC> eh, why would there be no support in the kernel for that?
[21:31] <JanC> (is that even possible?)
[21:44] <mamarley> JanC: It isn't the kernel, the problem is that in Bionic the 390 drivers use multiarch, which means that the 32-bit libraries for running 32-bit OpenGL applications on 64-bit Linux come from the 32-bit packages compiled for i386.  With 396, NVIDIA dropped support for 32-bit kernels and stopped releasing the 32-bit installer, making the current method of building the 32-bit compatibility library packages not work.
[21:45] <mamarley> Some kind of trickery will need to be done to work around that, but I am not skilled enough to know what the best method would be.
[21:46] <JanC> oh, I guess was misunderstanding your previous message  :)
[21:46] <ricotz> mamarley, I am already looking
[22:25] <ricotz> mamarley, it builds


[02:12] <Oriyon> sound quality hasnt improved in linux since ages..
[03:14] <swift110> hmm
[13:13] <stevenm_> alkisg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1780971
[13:14] <stevenm_> took some explaining - but done it :)  it'll probably get laughed at
[13:14] <stevenm_> or get called a fringe case
[13:14] <stevenm_> but i think a laptop that is encrypted, can dual boot and has hibernation working - isn't a tall order
[18:16] <mate|94617> HELLO
[18:19] <mate|17946> hi
[22:05] <mate|86521> I need some help.https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/grub-mbr-and-ssd-upgrade-4175633671/
[22:05] <mate|86521> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-laptop-and-netbook-25/grub-mbr-and-ssd-upgrade-4175633671/
[22:06] <mate|86521> every-time I boot my computer, I go to GRUB prompt. Even when I manually chose to boot from my SSD. But to my luck, I stumbled upon this post (https://askubuntu.com/a/159850- except in my case, I was not seeing grub rescue prompt, but grub prompt instead. So now, I always have to run following commands on GRUB prompt, every single time I boot my co
[22:06] <mate|86521> mputer
[22:07] <mate|86521> grub> root=(hd0,gpt2)
[22:07] <mate|86521> grub> root=(hd0,gpt2)
[22:07] <mate|86521> grub> configfile /boot/grub/grub.cf
[22:07] <mate|86521> - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bhj9KccTsY/
[22:09] <diogenes_> mate|86521, after booting into your system, have you tried: sudo grub-install /dev/sda and then sudo update-grub
[22:10] <mate|86521> Yes, I did.
[22:12] <mate|86521> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SM3MPBRrYb/
[22:14] <diogenes_> and bios is set to uefi?
[22:22] <mate|86521> I have seen this option in BIOS settings in while I was installing MATE on other computer, but I am not even seeing an option to enable/disable UEFI/EFI in this computer where I am having problem. My BIOS is Phoenix securecore tiano setup, if it helps.
[22:23] <diogenes_> mate|86521, in same cases it's also CMS
[22:23] <diogenes_> if it's enabled then the uefi is enabled
[22:23] <mate|86521> Did you mean to say CMOS?
[22:24] <diogenes_> no no that's the inside battery
[22:24] <mate|86521> Oh, I am not sure then what CMS is.
[22:24] <mate|86521> Would you be kind to let me know how do I get there?
[22:26] <diogenes_> search through your bios for such options as legacy mode and notice if it's enabled or disabled
[22:26] <mate|86521> Found this post: https://askubuntu.com/a/162896
[22:26] <mate|86521> ran the command, it returns UEFI.
[22:26] <mate|86521> $ [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOSUEFI
[22:27] <diogenes_> maybe you've got more than one HDD or SSD?
[22:29] <diogenes_> ok it's late here, if you can't find a working solution then come back tomorrow, maybe we can invent something
[22:29] <diogenes_> gn
[22:29] <mate|86521> GN
[22:29] <mate|86521> Thanks
[22:30] <mate|86521> I did upgrade HDD to SDD.
[22:30] <mate|86521> * SSD


[05:35] <dpm> good morning
[06:09] <andrejz> hi! has anyoone else noticed some category string untranslated in software center (12.04)?
[06:13] <dpm> andrejz, there was a bug about that, but I thought it had been fixed?
[06:14] <andrejz> all categories on the left are translated, but on the right where some programs are featured some of the categories are not translated (such as role playing or books and magazines)
[06:33] <andrejz> dpm can you point me to the bug link?
[06:33] <dpm> I haven't got it handy right now, try searching for it on the ubuntu-translations project
[06:34] <dpm> anyway, found it with a search: bug 868963
[06:35] <dpm> and bug 872760


[00:57] <skaet> ubuntu-desktop i386, amd64, amd64+mac images published for smoke test purposes
[00:58] <skaet> full set of builds has started now, images should be emerging through the evening.
[01:00] <skaet> jibel_, ^^
[01:01] <Samsagax> nice
[01:11] <charlie-tca> Congratulations, new Ubuntu Member skaet
[01:13] <skaet> Thank you charlie-tca :)
[01:17] <highvoltage> well you deserve it
[01:19] <charlie-tca> +1
[01:19]  * charlie-tca had to tell everyone, too
[01:21] <highvoltage> heh
[01:25] <Samsagax> mhh i had a question
[01:26] <Samsagax> I need some advice: anyone knows about progress in hybrid-graphics?
[01:32] <charlie-tca> jibel_: want a hardware smoke test on desktop 64?
[02:08] <charlie-tca> Memtest is back, too
[02:09] <charlie-tca> clarify:  MemTest is working on the desktop cd today
[02:27] <skaet> charlie-tca, smoke test on desktop 64 is most welcome at this point.   thanks.
[02:27] <skaet> xubuntu daily-live amd64 i386 posted
[02:27] <charlie-tca> running both virtualbox and hardware checks
[02:28] <skaet> ubuntu headless omap3 & omap4 posted
[03:49] <charlie-tca> guided partitioning with more than one hard drive does not offer the ability to resize either drive. It picks one.
[03:50] <charlie-tca> It does not even the one with the most space, that I can tell.
[03:53] <highvoltage> charlie-tca: what does it do with the other one? nothing?
[03:54] <charlie-tca> yup
[03:54] <charlie-tca> I have two drives, it selects sdb to resize
[03:54] <charlie-tca> sda does not show up in the list at all
[03:54] <charlie-tca> It did this for beta2 also
[03:57] <charlie-tca> It splits my 26gb partition instead of the 40gb on sda
[04:42] <skaet> edubuntu i386, amd64 posted
[04:44] <skaet> highvoltage, stgraber ^^
[04:56] <charlie-tca> I don't see any showstoppers; ran installs for Ubuntu and xubuntu 32bit and 64bit desktop images.
[04:56] <charlie-tca> I am going to bed now
[04:56] <skaet> thanks charlie-tca
[04:56] <skaet> I'm heading in myself.
[04:56] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[04:58] <skaet> ubuntu netbook omap3/omap4 on the tracker now
[04:58] <skaet> kubuntu mobile i386 on the tracker as well
[06:11] <stgraber> skaet: cool, I'll download and test tomorrow
[13:20] <charlie-tca> I show both 20110422 and 20110422.1 for Xubuntu desktop today. Which one is correct to test?
[13:29] <jibel> charlie-tca, .1, the tracker is not updated, the image was published when I was having lunch. doing it now.
[13:29] <charlie-tca> thanks, jibel . syncing images here
[13:30] <jibel> charlie-tca, yw. tracker is correct now.
[15:15] <skaet> jibel, charlie-tca - there wasn't any uploads between 22 and 22.1 for xubuntu,  so results from 22 should be valid for 22.1
[15:16] <jibel> charlie-tca, I can move the results from 22 to 22.1 if you wish
[15:16] <charlie-tca> zsync gave a 10% difference in the images for desktop
[15:16] <jibel> charlie-tca, because the bits are not at the same place on the iso ? if that makes sense
[15:17] <skaet> charlie-tca,   interesting.   I started the xubuntu off manually just before the cron job kicked in.
[15:17] <charlie-tca> weird
[15:17]  * skaet nods
[15:18] <charlie-tca> jibel: let's just run all the tests again. It was only two tests on each, and one was live session
[15:19] <jibel> charlie-tca, do you reproduce bug 737792 ?
[15:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 737792 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "compiz crashed with SIGABRT in Glib::exception_handlers_invoke() (affects: 164) (dups: 59) (heat: 969)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/737792
[15:20] <charlie-tca> I got no crashes
[15:20] <charlie-tca> yet
[15:21] <charlie-tca> I will need to try the screen-reader install to see if it is there, but I didn't think it crashed for beta2, even.
[15:22] <charlie-tca> I never saw the crash last night. I ran both desktop images on hardware, too
[15:23] <charlie-tca> jibel: I even tried every launcher last night, to see if anything crashed
[15:27] <jibel> charlie-tca, okay, thanks.
[15:29] <jibel> charlie-tca, I did a screen reader install and it's really broken. it reads frm_liveinstaller, btn_forward, ... all the symbolic names of the widgets.
[15:29] <charlie-tca> not good
[15:29] <charlie-tca> We put in a patch to fix that, I will have to find out what happened to it
[15:32] <jibel> charlie-tca, technically that's because ubiquity routinely set the atk_name of the widget to the value taken from the glade file. I think that's used to test ubiquity and be independant of the language but that breaks the a11y devices.
[15:34] <charlie-tca> so we are going to not have an accessibile install again
[15:39] <ScottK> Sounds like a good UDS topic though.
[15:39] <charlie-tca> It was at the last UDS. unfortunately, most of the accessibility stuff for Natty has been postponed to at least 11.10
[15:40] <ScottK> They won't be rewriting the desktop this next cycle, so I suspect the odds are better.
[15:40] <charlie-tca> We were assured, no two ways about it, accessibility was top priority, until it comes down to actually doing it
[15:41] <ScottK> Unfortunately at this point for Natty, what's done is done.
[15:44] <charlie-tca> Unfortunately, I heard that too many times in this cycle
[15:45] <charlie-tca> Oh, well, there is another turn coming up!
[15:46] <charlie-tca> for the time accessibility was actually given, we did pretty good
[15:52] <Samsagax> //b
[16:49] <fader_> Hmm, is it intentional that I can no longer type in the "mount point" combobox in the ubiquity manual partitioner?
[16:49] <fader_> The dropdown works and I can type in the partition size spinbox, just not in the 'mount point' box
[16:53] <xdatap> jibel, hello
[16:55] <charlie-tca> fader_: I haven't tried typing the mount points for a while now.
[16:55] <fader_> charlie-tca: I filed bug 769043 about it
[16:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 769043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot manually specify a mount point in the manual partitoner (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769043
[16:56] <fader_> I know it worked in 10.10, because I use that functionality :)
[16:57] <xdatap> hggdh, hello
[16:57] <charlie-tca> I used to use it, now I install mostly from the alternate images for my own systems
[16:58] <hggdh> xdatap: hello
[16:58] <jibel> xdatap, hello
[16:59] <xdatap> hggdh, may I rise your attention to a bug a guy in the Italian Team just succeeded in reproducing with today's image. It's the bug #557261
[16:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 557261 in casper (Ubuntu) "The session live persistent with USB don't start, error in the prompt initramfs (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557261
[16:59] <xdatap> hggdh, it looks like problematic to me, and the guy just uploaded the required logs (he had problem in recovering it)
[16:59] <hggdh> looking at it
[17:00] <xdatap> hggdh, thank you :)
[17:00] <jibel> xdatap, yup, it's on release team's radar and someone from foundation will look at it.
[17:00] <xdatap> jibel, great. Just to be sure
[17:00] <xdatap> jibel, are you coming next uds, right?
[17:00] <jibel> xdatap, are you able to reproduce ?
[17:01] <xdatap> jibel, not me but the guy in the team yes. It looks like hardware related
[17:01] <xdatap> jibel, I mentored him for getting the logs from the live session
[17:04] <hggdh> xdatap: the dmesg.txt does not show the boot process -- but it does show a series of radeon OOPSes
[17:05] <xdatap> hggdh, so, the problem looks like related to the video card
[17:06] <jibel> looks like a bug in the kernel
[17:06] <hggdh> xdatap: it may, I do not know -- casper.log shows, at the end, that mounting /dev/sdc1 could not be mounted
[17:06] <hggdh> I am also tending to kernel bug right now...
[17:07] <hggdh> but we really need the initial dmseg, we do not even know if the OOPSes are cause or consequence
[17:07] <jibel> xdatap, and the output of lspci -vvnn
[17:08] <hggdh> might be worth trying to boot in text mode to see what happens
[17:09] <xdatap> hggdh, if may be useful, this is the "mount" done in the same system booted with the working partition: http://paste.ubuntu.com/597483/
[17:10] <xdatap> hggdh, sdc1 is the usb stick with the image
[17:11] <xdatap> jibel, hggdh ok, to recap, it's needed the "lspci -vvnn" and a test with a text boot, right?
[17:21] <hggdh> xdatap: yes. Also, please make sure that all dmesg is collected, there may be more than one dmesg* file under /var/log
[17:21] <xdatap> hggdh, ok
[17:22] <xdatap> hggdh, thanks. I'll see you in Budapest?
[17:26] <hggdh> xdatap: I hope so :-)
[17:27] <xdatap> hggdh, great, looking forward to it :) I gotta go, bye bye!
[17:45] <JasonO> Hello. I am a new Desktop tester. Do I have to wait for new applications to be tested since Natty will be released next week?
[17:45] <JasonO> Does that make sense?
[17:47] <charlie-tca> Nope
[17:47] <charlie-tca> you can download todays images and test them
[17:47] <charlie-tca> !dai
[17:47] <ubot4> Factoid 'dai' not found
[17:48] <charlie-tca> We use the images specified on the iso testing tracker at
[17:48] <charlie-tca> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[17:48] <charlie-tca> by clicking the cd, you can download the image, by clicking the square at each test, you get a written test case we run
[17:49] <charlie-tca> and, you can test the applications if you desire
[17:49] <charlie-tca> JasonO: welcome to testing!
[17:50] <JasonO> charlie-tca Thank you. What do you recommend? iso or applications?
[17:50] <JasonO> I could not install the natty beat 2 in virtual box a couple of weeks ago.
[17:50] <charlie-tca> We are smoke testing iso's today.
[17:51] <charlie-tca> Feel free to test applications if you want to. It is always good to know what fails to work
[17:51] <charlie-tca> VirtualBox can be tricky to make work.
[17:51] <JasonO> What does that mean? Smoke testing.
[17:51] <charlie-tca> especially with unity
[17:51] <charlie-tca> smoke testing means we want to check that the images actually install
[17:52] <JasonO> Not within VB but within the whole system?
[17:52] <charlie-tca> We will try as many types of partitioning and installations as we can to make sure that is working
[17:52] <charlie-tca> both
[17:52] <charlie-tca> Hardware and VirtualBox
[17:52] <charlie-tca> but VBox is tricky with unity, since you don't get 3d right off, until you install guest additions
[17:54] <JasonO> So what desktop.qa.ubuntu.com for? JUst Natty? I'm on Maverick.
[17:55] <charlie-tca> yes, for the next version. Our main objective is to test that everything works before we give the cd to the general public.
[17:56] <charlie-tca> If it doesn't work, we want to find the bugs, so when someone says it fails, we might be able to give a workaround, or at least let them know it is known.
[17:56] <JasonO> Alright. So it is okey if I test the applications ie: Nautilus on Maverick and report a bug if it exists? Or wait until Natty arrives to upgrade then test?
[17:57] <charlie-tca> You can test most of natty applications in maverick
[17:57] <charlie-tca> It is always to report the bugs, but our tests are in natty
[17:57] <JasonO> So I should upgrade to Natty early?
[17:57] <charlie-tca> The versions of applications in natty are mostly newer than the versions in maverick. So if nautilus fails in maverick, it may already be fixed in natty
[17:58] <JasonO> I understand.
[17:58] <charlie-tca> either upgrade or test in virtualbox, which works fine for the applications
[17:58] <charlie-tca> Nautilus in unity and nautilus in classic-desktop of natty is still nautilus in natty
[17:59] <JasonO> I have 512MB of memory and 2.6 Ghz. The iso I have of natty beta 2 will not let me do a live preview. Do you think it will install?
[18:00] <charlie-tca> nope
[18:00] <charlie-tca> try the daily image from today
[18:00] <charlie-tca> !daily
[18:00] <ubot4> Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[18:00] <charlie-tca> see if it will work
[18:01] <JasonO> Okey, thanks very much. On my connetion it will take two hours or less.
[18:07] <charlie-tca> lunch time
[18:08] <charlie-tca> jibel: I ran both upgrades and alternates this week and they did work. barring big changes, they should be fine for Xubuntu
[21:10] <jibel> charlie-tca, I confirm, both xubuntu upgrades succeeded.
[21:11] <charlie-tca> Thanks, I have the 64bit running here too
[21:11] <charlie-tca> My connection is just really slow again
[22:57] <rob0917> is ubuntu 11.04 beta discussed here ?
[22:59] <micahg> rob0917: this channel is more about ISO testing, what specifically do you want to discuss?
[23:01] <rob0917> I was wondering if I could upgrade to final release version on april 28th from the 11.04 beta 2
[23:14] <ScottK> You can.
[23:19] <micahg> ScottK: missed him
[23:19] <ScottK> Meh.  OK.
[23:36] <JasonO> charlie-tca Had to download the iso a second time because the first did not save. Now the VM is giving me: [344.965242] piix4_smbus 0000:00:07.0: SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr