[12:00] <defrysk> then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > excellent
[12:01] <dmoyne> hello everybody ! ; I have a ridiculous question ; is it possible to load through apt-get the source of a sotftware for recompilation for example as it was possible with Mandrake ?
[12:02] <defrysk> dmoyne yes
[12:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > curious.... if i just say "kdesu" in a terminal that error message will print
[12:02] <defrysk> dmoyne, sudo apt-get source -b package
[12:02] <dmoyne> how do you do to load a source ?
[12:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, sudo apt-get source -d
[12:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, sudo apt-get source -d <package>
[12:03] <dmoyne> and then where is the source stored ?
[12:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, better to use fakeroot insted of sude then
[12:03] <dmoyne> what is kakeroot
[12:03] <defrysk> if you use fakeroot it wil be in the folder where you ordered the command
[12:04] <dmoyne> fakeroot...
[12:04] <defrysk> dmoyne, it is used to fake root
[12:04] <dmoyne> thanks and using synaptic is it possible ?
[12:05] <defrysk> no
[12:05] <defrysk> afaIk not
[12:05] <defrysk> not sure tho
[12:05] <dmoyne> ah therefore you cannot easily select a software from a list
[12:06] <defrysk> dmoyne, apt-cache search <package>
[12:06] <defrysk> and you get a list
[12:06] <Ashex> dmoyne, if you want to be able to browse packages, use adept
[12:07] <dmoyne> ok my problem is that I am not really keen to use the konsole to do so as you have to memorize too many things
[12:07] <defrysk> apt-get build dep <package> gives you the needed deps for the package so you can compile
[12:07] <dmoyne> ok let use summerize
[12:07] <defrysk> dmoyne, for compiling the cli is essential
[12:07] <dmoyne> what is the cli
[12:08] <defrysk> the Command Line Interface
[12:08] <dmoyne> of course this I known but this is basically all I use in command mode ! let us summerize :
[12:09] <dmoyne> (1) I create a folder in my domaine
[12:09] <dmoyne> (2) how to use fakeroot then to apt-get the source in that folder ?
[12:09] <defrysk> use fakeroot instead of sudo
[12:10] <defrysk> thats it
[12:10] <defrysk> fakeroot has to be installed
[12:10] <defrysk> also build-essential has to be installed for compiling
[12:10] <dmoyne> ah then very likely kakeroot to load from synaptic first
[12:10] <josh> hey all
[12:10] <Ashex> Before I go to sleep
[12:10] <defrysk> dmoyne, install fakeroot and build-essential
[12:10] <Ashex> any of you guys have a clue what this means? http://pastebin.com/710396
[12:11] <Ashex> it occurs whenever I apt-get install/upgrade
[12:11] <dmoyne> ok I do wait
[12:11] <Ashex> it hasn't caused me any actual problems, it just shows up whenever I do
[12:11] <kuzmaster> when ever i go apt-get update, i get this
[12:11] <kuzmaster> hang on
[12:11] <kuzmaster> getting link
[12:11] <kuzmaster> i get this http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710398
[12:11] <defrysk> kuzmaster, maybe the cd line in sources.list is not commented ?
[12:12] <defrysk> or Ashex that is
[12:12] <kuzmaster> ill put my sources.list in pastbin
[12:12] <defrysk> kuzmaster, for you its something else
[12:12] <Ashex> I'll check my sources
[12:12] <Ashex> as soon as I remember where they are located
[12:12] <defrysk> close synatic or whatever apt -app before doing anything on the cli
[12:13] <kuzmaster> heres my sources.list http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710400
[12:13] <defrysk> Ashex, /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <Ashex> yeah, i did a locate to find them
[12:14] <defrysk> close synapic or whatever apt -app before doing anything on the cli
[12:14] <kuzmaster> it was
[12:14] <dmoyne> ok I have installed fakeroot and build-essential now I will create a folder and "fakeroot apt-get source -d my_source"
[12:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > linux is a nightmare >.<
[12:14] <Ashex> Not really
[12:14] <Ashex> you're just doing things the hard way
[12:14] <Ashex> :p
[12:14] <blush> hi, i'm trying to use ndiswrapper in order to use the wifi driver of my laptop (compaq presario m2358ea and broadcom driver). It's installed fine, but there is no way to use iwlist elan0/eth1 scan: No one of these network devices "support scanning". What am i doing bad?
[12:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > its taking me 3 hours to install firefox
[12:15] <kuzmaster> its a challange
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[12:15] <Ashex> 3 hours?
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well
[12:15] <Ashex> it took me about a minute
[12:15] <Ashex> :P
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i know =p its just me
[12:15] <kuzmaster> my adept/sources.list wont work
[12:15] <Ashex> use adept when you need to install things
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ive been a windows user for the past 7 years
[12:15] <[Evil] [Ernie] > this is going to take some time
[12:15] <Ashex> Ha
[12:15] <Ashex> I've been using linux for less then 4 months
[12:16] <defrysk> kuzmaster, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:16] <Ashex> I've been using kubuntu for about 4 weeks now
[12:16] <kuzmaster> the main thing that i love about linux (kubuntu 6.06) is that the main programs are there
[12:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ick
[12:16] <kuzmaster> and all driveers are
[12:16] <RawSewage> [Evil] [Ernie] , why did you switch
[12:16] <Ashex> You just need to know your way around linux
[12:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well... because windows is basically
[12:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > not how you want it
[12:16] <RawSewage> Did it have anything to do with the 'You have 6 days to Activate" message
[12:16] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it's how microsoft wants it
[12:17] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and if they expect me to pay upwards of $200 per copy (since you need one for EACH of your computers)
[12:17] <Ashex> I did a crash course on linux, 7 distro's in 2 weeks, and broke linux in everyway I could think of
[12:17] <[Evil] [Ernie] > then its going to be how I want it
[12:17] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[12:17] <RawSewage> Yes, Windows today is what AOL was to the internet
[12:17] <RawSewage> It's for people that don't know anything about computers and need to be spoonfed
[12:17] <Ashex> Heh
[12:17] <RawSewage> oops
[12:17] <RawSewage> Wrong channel
[12:17] <Ashex> whenever I boot into Windows, I just get angry
[12:17] <dmoyne> defrysk: I have done as said where is buil-essential involved
[12:17] <[Evil] [Ernie] > windows is aggravating
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > especially my documents
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i hate my documents
[12:18] <Scorpmoon> blabla(windows bashing)blabla
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > my pictures, my music, all this useless clutter
[12:18] <defrysk> dmoyne, what do you want to compile ?
[12:18] <Scorpmoon> make linux better and stop bashing :)
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > etc
[12:18] <[Evil] [Ernie] > yessir
[12:18] <Ashex> Kubuntu runs smoothly for me, but whenever i boot into windows it's sluggish, it's really frustrating >:(
[12:18] <dmoyne> ok I want to recompile festival
[12:18] <Scorpmoon> i insert kubuntu CD and it just stops
[12:18] <kuzmaster> when i type sudo dpkg --configure -a, what should happen?
[12:18] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : i belive you are allowed to install copies of XP on utmost 3 home machines
[12:18] <Scorpmoon> is that better
[12:19] <[Evil] [Ernie] > hmm
[12:19] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : with a single license
[12:19] <Ashex> anyone feel like taking a look at my sources real quick? my repositories need some tweaking
[12:19] <Child4Christ> your not allowed to
[12:19] <kuzmaster> when i type sudo dpkg --configure -a, what should happen?
[12:19] <Child4Christ> have to buy a licence for additional computers
[12:19] <[Evil] [Ernie] > kane_
[12:19] <[Evil] [Ernie] > when you call to verify your windows and activate it
[12:19] <kane_> Child4Christ: the last time i read the EULA, it said differently
[12:19] <defrysk> dmoyne, why do you want to recompile it ? its in the repos
[12:19] <Child4Christ> people read them? O.O
[12:19] <[Evil] [Ernie] > they give you problems if the cd key is used on more than one computer
[12:20] <RawSewage> tj9991, you should instal kdf and run Kwikdisk.  Its an icon your tray, and show you how much space you have on your drives
[12:20] <Ashex> that's why you build all your boxes with the same hardware
[12:20] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : ive never called them ;)
[12:20] <tj9991> maybe later
[12:20] <Child4Christ> last time i heard you had to pay extra to use it on another box :/
[12:20] <Ashex> and install on one then clone the drive!
[12:20] <dmoyne> because this is to recompile it with Mbrola French voices
[12:20] <[Evil] [Ernie] > *shrug*
[12:20] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : maybe because ive never had a legal copy of windows ...
[12:20] <tj9991> im going to try to get a speedsolve soon
[12:20] <kane_> [Evil] [Ernie] : but anyway ... ive read the EULA
[12:20] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[12:20] <tj9991> ill break the 40 second barrier some day
[12:20] <kuzmaster> ive tried sudo dpkg --configure -a, but adept still wont work
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > k
[12:21] <RawSewage> tj9991, Idle in Boringville until we can reg it
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > well i do have one legal copy
[12:21] <kuzmaster> and ive dont apt-get update
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and they dont want it on my other computers
[12:21] <defrysk> dmoyne, now sudo apt-get build dep festival
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > feel kind of burned about that one :P fetchers
[12:21] <Ashex> kuzmaster: apt-get check?
[12:21] <kuzmaster> k
[12:21] <defrysk> dmoyne, to get the needed dependencies to compile
[12:21] <kuzmaster> and apt-get update says the same massage as b4
[12:21] <[Evil] [Ernie] > !tell me about adept
[12:22] <kuzmaster> !adept
[12:22] <ubotu> methinks adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:22] <dmoyne> defrysk: you mean fakeroot
[12:22] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ubotu is pretty sexy ;)
[12:22] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [Evil] [Ernie]
[12:22] <[Evil] [Ernie] > err
[12:22] <defrysk> dmoyne, no that for later
[12:23] <admin_> ima li bulgari v tozi kanal?
[12:23] <[Evil] [Ernie] > oh, nifty
[12:23] <cox377> kane_ where did you hear about that with the M$ licences?
[12:23] <[Evil] [Ernie] > so i dont have to mess around with compiling and all that terminal stuff to install software?
[12:23] <cox377> kane_: where did you hear about that with the M$ licences?
[12:23] <[Evil] [Ernie] > adept does it?
[12:23] <dmoyne> I am lost : I started to fakeroot the source ; why not sudo now ?sudo
[12:23] <defrysk> dmoyne, if you do not listen to me neveri=mind then
[12:24] <[Evil] [Ernie] > cox377: he said he read the EULA even though hes never owned a legitimate copy
[12:24] <defrysk> ask someone else then
[12:24] <dmoyne> I will of course but this to understand
[12:24] <kuzmaster> apt-get update just stays stuck on 0%
[12:24] <cox377> Sorry evil
[12:24] <kuzmaster> and adept still dosnt work
[12:24] <kuzmaster> after doin apt-get check
[12:24] <defrysk> apt-get build dep is installing packages you need this requires sudo
[12:24] <kuzmaster> me?
[12:25] <kuzmaster> defrysk, me?
[12:25] <defrysk> kuzmaster, no not you
[12:25] <kuzmaster> k
[12:25] <xst> My firefox freezes VERY often after upgrading to dapper. And often (but not always) when I switch desktop. Anyone else with that problem?
[12:26] <RawSewage> No, becaues I use Konqueror
[12:26] <kuzmaster> and ive had the same problems last time i installed kubuntu 6.06
[12:26] <dmoyne> I have a problem "sudo apt-get build dep festival" returns "E: L'opration build n'est pas valable" meaning buil not valid
[12:26] <RawSewage> Konqueror is a very underrated browser
[12:26] <kuzmaster> i re-installed becuase of that problem
[12:26] <kuzmaster> and im getting the same errors as last time
[12:26] <kuzmaster> why does it hate me?
[12:26] <cox377> does anyone know if there is anyway to change a system tray icon?? for example the blue box of this IRC chat?
[12:26] <defrysk> dmoyne, you have the souce repos uncommented and also universe and multivere ?
[12:27] <RawSewage> xst, but what do you mean by freezes
[12:27] <defrysk> source repos*
[12:27] <kuzmaster> can somone please give me their sources.list so i know that my installation is fucked?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> !repos
[12:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[12:27] <kuzmaster> and sorry for the launguage?
[12:27] <kuzmaster> NO
[12:27] <imbrandon> !language
[12:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:27] <kuzmaster> ive tried that and it dosnt work
[12:28] <kane_> Hobbsee: you're doing a pretty great job!!
[12:28] <kuzmaster> yeah, i said sorry
[12:28] <Hobbsee> kuzmaster: they do work.
[12:28] <Ashex> kuzmaster: did you try a apt-get check?
[12:28] <xst> RawSewage: The window content is not updated and firefox has to be manually terminated in order to close it. E.g. when switching desktops, the old desktop content is shown in the firefox windows.
[12:28] <kuzmaster> not for me
[12:28] <defrysk> Hobbsee, kuzmaster is "locked"
[12:28] <kuzmaster> ill try it again
[12:28] <Hobbsee> mth`MAW: please get rid of that away message
[12:28] <Hobbsee> defrysk: locked?
[12:28] <kuzmaster> wat, im locked?
[12:28] <Ashex> I had this problem not long ago
[12:28] <kuzmaster> wat dose that mean?
[12:28] <Ashex> it was due to a broken package
[12:28] <Hobbsee> sud dpkg-configure -a
[12:29] <Hobbsee> sudo dpkg-configure -a
[12:29] <defrysk> Hobbsee, already told him
[12:29] <Hobbsee> might be reconfigure
[12:29] <imbrandon> ps ax|grep dpkg
[12:29] <imbrandon> kill -9 <pid>
[12:29] <imbrandon> sudo kill -9 <pid>
[12:29] <Ashex> kuzmaster: have you used automatix recently?
[12:30] <kuzmaster> nope
[12:30] <xst> I wan't to file a bug report on the firefox freezes but for that I would like some stacktrace stuff or similar. How do I produce relevant debugging output for the bug report?
[12:30] <ChefWill_> anyone use xmms-kde ?
[12:30] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: open a konsole and type "ps ax|grep dpkg" tell me what you see
[12:30] <kuzmaster> ok
[12:30] <kuzmaster> hang on
[12:30] <kuzmaster> do i need to be root?
[12:30] <imbrandon> no
[12:30] <kuzmaster> k
[12:30] <Hobbsee> xst: gdb programname
[12:31] <kuzmaster> i get this...
[12:31] <kuzmaster>  6573 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep dpkg
[12:31] <defrysk> kuzmaster, you have a seperate root account ?
[12:31] <kuzmaster> nope
[12:31] <defrysk> ok
[12:31] <kuzmaster> i just installed
[12:31] <imbrandon> ok kuzmaster now type ....
[12:31] <defrysk> kuzmaster, was just curious
[12:31] <kuzmaster> type wat?
[12:32] <Ashex> sudo kill -9 6573
[12:32] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: "sudo updatedb & && sudo locate dpkg.lock"
[12:32] <imbrandon> Ashex: no
[12:32] <defrysk> dmoyne, how is it going ?
[12:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > this may be a stupid question
[12:32] <imbrandon> Ashex: thats just his grep
[12:32] <dmoyne> let me check !
[12:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i selected stuff to install in adept manager
[12:32] <xst> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:32] <Ashex> Oh, right
[12:32] <kuzmaster> i get sudo updatedb & && sudo locate dpkg.lock
[12:32] <Ashex> I blame the time of night
[12:32] <kuzmaster> sorry
[12:32] <kuzmaster> i get bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'
[12:32] <[Evil] [Ernie] > what next?
[12:33] <imbrandon> ok just type "sudo updatedb &"
[12:33] <dmoyne> I have added multiverse but no progress maybe If you check my sources.list can I send to you ?
[12:33] <kuzmaster> k
[12:33] <kuzmaster> [1]  6574
[12:33] <kuzmaster> thats what i got
[12:33] <kuzmaster> and what is all this for?
[12:33] <imbrandon> ok
[12:33] <defrysk> dmoyne, I'll provide you with a link explaining checkinstall , might be usefull for you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2356
[12:33] <imbrandon> its updateing locate
[12:33] <kuzmaster> ok........
[12:33] <imbrandon> hit enter till you see something else
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming??
[12:34] <kuzmaster> and that is?
[12:34] <dmoyne> ok I read
[12:34] <Ashex> so, I'm guessing nobody really knows what may cause this to show up during apt-get install? http://pastebin.com/710396
[12:34] <imbrandon> locate is a program
[12:34] <Child4Christ> just wondering, why is it only BSD uses my sound card right? i have an Avance Logic one that uses the ALS4000 driver, everytime its stopped being used system sounds keep repeating for a bit and xmms for one keeps sayin my sound card isnt configged right but after a few tries it plays again, anyone know why?
[12:34] <kuzmaster> [1] +  Done                    sudo updatedb
[12:34] <imbrandon> ok kuzmaster now type ...
[12:34] <imbrandon> sudo locate lock|grep dpkg
[12:34] <defrysk> dmoyne, tha packages you make with checkinstall are for personal use only
[12:35] <dmoyne> ok I will follow the procedure !
[12:35] <defrysk> dmoyne, the part about sources.list can be skipped in that link
[12:35] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, results http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710428
[12:35] <defrysk> dmoyne, ?
[12:35] <dmoyne> yes !
[12:35] <defrysk> dmoyne, the part about sources.list can be skipped in that link
[12:35] <defrysk> got that ?
[12:35] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: ok "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[12:36] <dmoyne> yes but I sill have to check that I have properly modified my file as you suggested
[12:36] <kuzmaster> nothing
[12:36] <defrysk> dmoyne, yes
[12:36] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: now try "sudo apt-get update"
[12:37] <dmoyne> I have to install checkinstall as well : being done
[12:37] <defrysk> dmoyne,  good :)
[12:37] <kuzmaster> this is what i got last time i did that http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710423
[12:37] <imbrandon> just now ?
[12:38] <kuzmaster> no, last time
[12:38] <kuzmaster> but this installation
[12:38] <Ashex> well, it's almost 4am
[12:38] <kuzmaster> i also got that last installation
[12:38] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: no do it again
[12:38] <kuzmaster> i am
[12:38] <Ashex> and since I don't have any problems that need to be answered soon
[12:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > lol
[12:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > actually i dont see the commit button in adept
[12:38] <Ashex> and everyone here has way more experience with kubuntu then i do
[12:38] <Ashex> I'm gong to call it a night
[12:38] <[Evil] [Ernie] > only "preview" where "commit" should be
[12:38] <Ashex> [Evil] [Ernie] : click apply
[12:39] <Ashex> or something like that
[12:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > apply is grayed out
[12:39] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, the results are the same so far
[12:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > as is fetch updates
[12:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming??
[12:39] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: change to a diff mirror
[12:39] <imbrandon> if you are timing out
[12:39] <Ashex> did you give it the password?
[12:39] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ...!
[12:39] <prxq> Tallia1Kubuntu: I bet you can find payperview streams with the help of google.
[12:40] <[Evil] [Ernie] > *smack head*
[12:40] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i think when i ran it from console i didnt use sudo!
[12:41] <Ashex> HA
[12:41] <Ashex> it should be in the kde start menu too
[12:41] <dmoyne> defrysk: stupid question : when you add multiverse and universe can you keep restricted !!!
[12:41] <imbrandon> yes
[12:41] <[Evil] [Ernie] > just looked again and didnt see it in the start menu
[12:41] <imbrandon> dmoyne: yes
[12:41] <defrysk> dmoyne, yes
[12:41] <Ashex> it should be under system
[12:41] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ah
[12:42] <defrysk> dmoyne, when added mage sure to apt-get update
[12:42] <defrysk> sudo apt-get update
[12:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i think im just going blind
[12:42] <dmoyne> ah I am nut
[12:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > found it though
[12:42] <defrysk> dmoyne, when done all that sudo apt-get build dep festival
[12:43] <dmoyne> ok I will do
[12:44] <Ashex> well, I'm going to bed
[12:44] <Ashex> night guys
[12:44] <[Evil] [Ernie] > gnite
[12:44] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thanks for all your help
[12:44] <dmoyne> defrysk: still the same error message !
[12:44] <Ashex> no problem
[12:44] <kuzmaster> imbrandow, pm
[12:45] <defrysk> imbrandon, is it build-dep or build dep ?
[12:45] <imbrandon> build-dep
[12:45] <defrysk> dmoyne, sorry its build-dep
[12:45] <defrysk> thanks imbrandon
[12:45] <imbrandon> np
[12:46] <imbrandon> i'm off to sleep
[12:46] <imbrandon> gnight all
[12:46] <defrysk> night :0
[12:46] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, heres what i get after apt-get update
[12:46] <kuzmaster> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/710442
[12:46] <imbrandon> *looks*
[12:46] <dmoyne> do not feel sorry you are still my Guru ; I am presently build-deping
[12:46] <defrysk> dmoyne, you have a source for festival downloaded ?
[12:47] <dmoyne> defrysk: done yes
[12:47] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: your internet connection is timing out to the au. servers might try a diffrent one by editing sources.list
[12:47] <kuzmaster> can someone please just give me there sources.list
[12:47] <kuzmaster> ok
[12:47] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: here is mine ......
[12:47] <defrysk> dmoyne, unpack the source
[12:47] <kuzmaster> wat do i change the country code to?
[12:47] <kuzmaster> and thanks
[12:47] <Doat> i want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu so i installed kubuntu-desktop package but the desktop still looks the same as gnome.. is this really kde?
[12:47] <imbrandon> kuzmaster: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/sources.list
[12:47] <kuzmaster> thanks
[12:48] <imbrandon> ^^ thats the usa servers btw
[12:48] <RawSewage> No, KDE doesnt look like Gnome
[12:48] <dmoyne> so I have 3 files a diif.gz a dsc and az tar.gz
[12:48] <kuzmaster> k
[12:48] <defrysk> kuzmaster, I usually just remove the countrycode
[12:48] <imbrandon> RawSewage: my kde looks like windows ;)
[12:48] <Doat> RawSewage, then what should i do?
[12:48] <RawSewage> imbrandon, I know
[12:48] <dmoyne> I will have to upgrade !
[12:48] <DarkWizzard> hey all :)
[12:48] <RawSewage> imbrandon, I think I saw a screenshot of it
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> have a big big problem
[12:49] <defrysk> dmoyne, sure if you have to :)
[12:49] <imbrandon> Doat: when you log in before choose the session type as KDE
[12:49] <kuzmaster> defrysk, dose it work?
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> after updating to dapper my 3d accelerotion doesn't work
[12:49] <RawSewage> Doat, maybe reboot and select KDE from the login screen
[12:49] <dmoyne> can I use a command on the tared file ?
[12:49] <defrysk> kuzmaster, works for my and with dns probs change http to ftp
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> the Xorg.0.log show that everithing is ok
[12:49] <kuzmaster> ok
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> but glxinfo shows no direct rendering
[12:49] <Doat> RawSewage, hmm.. ok
[12:49] <kuzmaster> to much tweaking for me sorry
[12:49] <DarkWizzard> I would need to load kernel module drm
[12:49] <RawSewage> imbrandon, you should install that on a Windows computer user and tell them it's Vista
[12:50] <DarkWizzard> but it can't be
[12:50] <dmoyne> or do I have first to untar ?
[12:50] <defrysk> tar zxvf <sourcepackage>
[12:50] <imbrandon> lol RawSewage http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot2.png
[12:50] <imbrandon> ok i'm off to bed, gnight
[12:50] <kuzmaster> just a note, on both installations, when i first opend sources.list as root, it said...
[12:50] <RawSewage> imbrandon, oh, I guess I saw someone else's yesterday.  They had the START menu
[12:50] <kuzmaster> url malformed
[12:50] <kuzmaster> or somthing like that
[12:51] <RawSewage> imbrandon, the exact Windows START menu logo
[12:51] <imbrandon> RawSewage: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/screenshots/snapshot1.png
[12:51] <dmoyne> defrysk: can I use a command on the tared file or do I have first to untar ?
[12:51] <imbrandon> ;)
[12:51] <defrysk> dmoyne, tar zxvf <sourcepackage>
[12:51] <RawSewage> lol
[12:51] <defrysk> dmoyne, tu unpack it
[12:51] <imbrandon> thats the good thing about making your own theme ;)
[12:51] <kuzmaster> after changing sources.list, do i got apt-get update
[12:51] <imbrandon> RawSewage: it might have been someone that just had my theme installed
[12:52] <imbrandon> too
[12:52] <kuzmaster> go**
[12:52] <RawSewage> imbrandon, You made that theme?
[12:52] <defrysk> tu pac or tu unpack thats the question
[12:52] <imbrandon> RawSewage: yes
[12:52] <RawSewage> cool
[12:52] <imbrandon> RawSewage: http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/theme/royale/
[12:53] <dmoyne> defrysk: untared accomplished how to upgrade ?
[12:53] <defrysk> cd <tothatfolder>
[12:53] <dmoyne> done
[12:54] <imbrandon> defrysk: nah the saying is "make install;not war"  ;)
[12:54] <fabio_> salve
[12:54] <RawSewage> imbrandon, Thats a diff Start button
[12:54] <defrysk> dmoyne, ./configure
[12:54] <kuzmaster> ohhhhhh, adept/sources.list hates me
[12:54] <defrysk> hehe imbrandon :D
[12:54] <kuzmaster> it NEVER works
[12:54] <dmoyne> I have not used the diff file  yet ?
[12:54] <imbrandon> RawSewage: when you download the startbutton replace the tux_start.png with xp_start.png , i dont make the windows on public
[12:54] <kuzmaster> nope
[12:54] <kuzmaster> dont no how
[12:54] <defrysk> dmoyne, I thought you had one for french support seperatly downloaded ?
[12:55] <dmoyne> hoops : the idea is to get a source of festival to be recompiled in another process
[12:56] <kuzmaster> imbrandon, even with the us mirros, it still times out
[12:56] <kuzmaster> mirror**
[12:56] <kuzmaster> i keep getting cto's
[12:57] <dmoyne> defrysk: but my question was I had with the tared file a diff file to update the tared source ; sofar it has not been used
[12:57] <defrysk> dmoyne, if you wish to use the one from the repo its easy to compile a .deb
[12:57] <kuzmaster> help?
[12:57] <blush_> how can i see the driver used in a network interface?
[12:58] <defrysk> dmoyne, all you have to do is fakeroot apt-get source -b festival
[12:58] <defrysk> and a .deb wil be build for you automaticly
[12:58] <[Evil] [Ernie] > anyone know how to get wireless working on kunbuntu? or a link to that information
[12:58] <kuzmaster> kubuntu 6.06 hates me
[12:58] <kuzmaster> ive tried everything
[12:58] <kuzmaster> and it just dosnt work
[12:59] <dmoyne> so you mean I fakeroot in my untared folder
[12:59] <defrysk> dmoyne, no
[12:59] <defrysk> I thought you had a seperate source of festival with french support
[12:59] <dmoyne> defry
[12:59] <dmoyne> defrysk: I ma lost now
[01:00] <Healot> hi kubuntuans
[01:00] <defrysk> dmoyne, you do not have to compile festival its in the repos
[01:00] <blush_> [Evil] [Ernie] , there is a lot of information in the wiki. Anyway, that doesn't help me so much
[01:00] <imbrandon> [Evil] [Ernie] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[01:00] <defrysk> just sudo apt-get install festival
[01:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > thank you
[01:01] <dmoyne> defrysk: being done but I do not understand what we are doing after loading a source in my domain
[01:01] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i should have looked first, kubuntu has a wireless assistant
[01:02] <defrysk> dmoyne, you can delete those
[01:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i think my question should have been how do i activate my wireless card on this laptop
[01:02] <kuzmaster> would my router be blocking adept?
[01:02] <defrysk> you dont need tham
[01:02] <[Evil] [Ernie] > but, i will check the wiki, it might say
[01:02] <kuzmaster> could that happen?
[01:03] <kuzmaster> could it?
[01:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, when you need more festival related packages , just do apt-cache search festival
[01:03] <defrysk> dmoyne, my apologies for the misunderstandings ;)
[01:04] <exceswater> hello
[01:04] <exceswater> hi defrysk
[01:04] <blush_> i think i'll change to Fedora Core again. Wireless with Boradcom and wpa it's being quite annoying
[01:04] <defrysk> time to take the dog out
[01:04] <defrysk> WraF!
[01:04] <exceswater> hehe
[01:04] <exceswater> woof woof
[01:04] <dmoyne> defrysk: maybe I shoud have explained the idea behind all this ! : to recomplile Franfest + Mbrola + Festival and I wanted to provide to this processus the path of a freh Festival source but I knew that festival was in the repos and that it was working well in English but not in French !!!
[01:04] <exceswater> i have a question... again
[01:05] <exceswater> to make a shortcut on the desktop
[01:05] <exceswater> i should use konsole
[01:05] <exceswater> cd to where i want to
[01:05] <josh> is it possible for my wireless router to block or interfere with adept?
[01:05] <exceswater> and after that: ln -s path to file ?
[01:05] <exceswater> but i want shortcut for a file.. not for a dir
[01:05] <kuzmaster> is it?
[01:05] <defrysk> dmoyne, afaIk festival is not available in French at all
[01:06] <dmoyne> thios I know but there is a possibility with Franfest using Festival + Mbrola with French voicies !
[01:06] <kuzmaster> is it possible for my wireless router to block or interfere with adept?
[01:07] <kuzmaster> im gonna re-start, that might help
[01:10] <dmoyne> defrysk: the guy in charge of this provide a script to be executed this script loads a Festival source when you do not provide a path to a source but it failed ; he proposed to work with a 64 bit Ubuntu Festival source that may have special feature for the global compilation process to succed of course everything to be installed in /usr/local to avoid interference with Ubuntu Festival executables !
[01:14] <Doat> ok i got to kde now but all the menus are full of gnome apps. is there an easy way to remove them?
[01:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > in network settings - system settings i click enable on my wireless card
[01:14] <[Evil] [Ernie] > it enables for about 1 second then disables again
[01:16] <dmoyne> defrysk: thanks for all thgis information
[01:17] <dmoyne> bye !
[01:17] <kronoz> how does the windows free softare pop up on kubuntu cd for windows work? is it qt? or gtk or gtk+qt
[01:28] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: ping
[01:28] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: pong
[01:28] <Hobbsee> (sorta)
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: did you remember the keyboardproblem I sometimes have
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> and you also
[01:29] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: oh, was that you?  i got you mixed with jsgotangco
[01:29] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> I bought a new keyboard and still the same problems
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> I've made a bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/49779
[01:29] <jeroenvrp> FYI
[01:30] <Hobbsee> looking...
[01:31] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: do we have a clue where it's supposed to be assigned to?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: and this happens on both kde and gnome right?
[01:31] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: I don't know about gnome
[01:31] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:31] <jeroenvrp> I don't have that
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> it must be profile related I think
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> or user related
[01:32] <jeroenvrp> I keep an extra (tail -f) eye on the X-log
[01:34] <erik_> will KDE be upgraded to 3.5.3 in official Kubuntu, or will we have to wait for next Kubuntu release for that
[01:36] <chavo> erik_, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[01:36] <erik_> chavo: that's not official packages
[01:37] <Hobbsee> erik_: next kubuntu release
[01:37] <Hobbsee> and they're mostly official
[01:37] <erik_> anyway, they broke dependencies when I tried them so I re-installed kubuntu and decided to wait for official
[01:37] <erik_> Hobbsee: wehn do you think we'll get official 3.5.3 debs?
[01:38] <Hobbsee> erik_: edgy
[01:39] <defrysk> erik_, did you try kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:39] <Child4Christ> i used alien to convert the java rpm to deb, an app says it isnt installed an its in a dir, should i have installed it a different way?
[01:39] <defrysk> Child4Christ, wrong choice
[01:40] <defrysk> !java
[01:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[01:40] <Child4Christ> thx :)
[01:40] <erik_> defrysk: I pointed to the 3.5.3 sources and performed a dist-upgrade
[01:40] <defrysk> erik_, I did it too and worked like a charm
[01:41] <defrysk> erik_, I usually do and "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" after
[01:41] <defrysk> to make sure to get is all
[01:41] <prxq> Hi. I can't seem to change the color scheme of my konsole (in dapper)
[01:41] <defrysk> prxq, yes
[01:42] <[Evil] [Ernie] > i just realized you can't really see how much harddisk space you have left =o
[01:42] <prxq> defrysk: yes what :-) ?
[01:42] <defrysk> you should be able to
[01:42] <defrysk> prxq, had to re-read your q
[01:43] <prxq> oh.
[01:43] <Hobbsee> prxq: settings, configure konsole, schema
[01:43] <prxq> Well, when I change the scheme, the konsole blinks but stays that way
[01:43] <Child4Christ> do i need to change the sources cause it says it cant find it :/
[01:44] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: yes, you need multiverse
[01:44] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: add " multiverse" after where it has universe
[01:44] <Child4Christ> thx :)
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > holy freaking crap
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > apparently this installed /home to the partition i wanted to use for a swap file
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys, can i ask you if you know way to watch the Soccer World cup in streaming?? i know there's a free way of watching them on some chinese channels, i really hope that you know something about it
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > and now my swap is installed to the partition i wanted for /home
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > which is 44 gb
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > haha
[01:45] <[Evil] [Ernie] > ridiculous!
[01:47] <defrysk> prxq, you use xgl or something perhaps ?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or something...
[01:47] <prxq> defrysk: nope. kubuntu default install. Well, on an amd64
[01:47] <defrysk> prxq, or a custom theme ?
[01:48] <Child4Christ> seems to have worked, thx guys ^-^
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Child4Christ: not a problem
[01:49] <prxq> defrysk: neither. Really the default kde install.
[01:49] <Child4Christ> lol now i dont have to throw the box out the window
[01:49] <defrysk> prxq, honestly no clue then
[01:49] <prxq> defrysk: if i try to set colors, I can select one but after selecting it, the shown color is the old one (in the dialog)
[01:56] <Child4Christ> i can only assume this is a bad thing: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:56] <Child4Christ> :/
[01:57] <kronoz> Child4Christ: er just run the operation again
[01:57] <kronoz> Child4Christ: it doesn't really matter, it won't cuase any harm at
[01:58] <Child4Christ> says theres unmet dependencies
[01:58] <kronoz> Child4Christ: apt-get -f install
[01:58] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: what are you trying to install and what are they?
[01:58] <Child4Christ> same thing :/
[01:58] <Child4Christ> sun-java5-jdk <-- this for P2P clients
[01:59] <Child4Christ> limewire and frostwire use java
[01:59] <kronoz> !java-package
[01:59] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz
[01:59] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: are you following the proper guide to get that package?
[01:59] <Child4Christ> yup
[01:59] <kronoz> !java
[01:59] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[01:59] <Healot> !repos
[01:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[01:59] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: so you're getting them from multiverse?
[01:59] <Child4Christ> i just run apt-get install that and it gives me errors an now dependencies needed
[01:59] <Child4Christ> yup
[01:59] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: can you pastebin the errors?
[02:00] <Child4Christ> sure
[02:00] <Healot> dapper repos, not dapper-backports repos
[02:00] <Child4Christ> umm, how do i use it?
[02:00] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: /msg ubotu pastebin
[02:00] <Child4Christ> ty
[02:03] <Child4Christ> do i put my name under name then click send?
[02:03] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: sure
[02:03] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: then produce the URL here
[02:03] <Child4Christ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15762
[02:05] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: what happens if you sudo apt-get -f install as mentioned above?
[02:05] <Child4Christ> not sure, lemme try
[02:05] <Hobbsee> or apt-get build-dep packagename
[02:06] <apokryphos> why? ;-)
[02:06] <Child4Christ> same thing
[02:06] <Hobbsee> there was a reason.
[02:07] <Child4Christ> build-deps doin somethin
[02:07] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: no, that won't do it. That's just for getting build-dependencies.
[02:07] <Child4Christ> o
[02:07] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: is it the *exact* same error with apt-get -f install?
[02:08] <Child4Christ> yea, dependencies
[02:08] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: what happens if you sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb
[02:09] <Child4Christ> errors
[02:09] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: what errors?
[02:10] <Child4Christ> subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 <-- only error it says, otherwise just says "errors"
[02:10] <zax1> shortly after the installer retrieves (some 257 software ) packages for installation, and then unpacking and installing. the nstaller crashes. i am installing XUBUNTU, any one ever had similar expiriences ? any suggestions ?( by the way, the same laptop was fine when i installed win 2000,kubuntu and ubuntu)
[02:11] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: could you pastebin what it says exactly?
[02:11] <apokryphos> it is a very weird error...
[02:11] <Child4Christ> sure
[02:12] <Child4Christ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15763
[02:12] <Child4Christ> sorry is this is causing problems
[02:13] <georgeblunt> hey there
[02:13] <exceswater> hi all
[02:13] <exceswater> i have a question
[02:13] <exceswater> few minutes before
[02:13] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: don't be, we're here to help :)
[02:13] <exceswater> i've seen that updates are available
[02:13] <georgeblunt> !xfree86-dga
[02:13] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, georgeblunt
[02:13] <exceswater> i hit applu
[02:14] <exceswater> and adept updater started
[02:14] <exceswater> and somewhere in the middle crashed
[02:14] <exceswater> now it seems something else is using adept
[02:14] <exceswater> and i cannot upgrade
[02:14] <Child4Christ> thx, i appreciate it ^-^
[02:14] <exceswater> what can i do
[02:14] <georgeblunt> exceswater: i had the excact same problem a few days ago
[02:14] <exceswater> and ?
[02:14] <georgeblunt> let me think... hehe
[02:15] <exceswater> it was a big download... 29 M
[02:15] <exceswater> and it crashed
[02:15] <exceswater> there is no CTRL-ALT_DEL in linux :D ?
[02:15] <Child4Christ> ctrl+alt+del twice restarts the computer
[02:15] <exceswater> oic
[02:15] <Child4Christ> does for me anyway :)
[02:15] <georgeblunt> try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:16] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: hm, I just looked at a bug report...
[02:16] <exceswater> what does that ?
[02:16] <apokryphos> try installing from adept or synaptic
[02:16] <Child4Christ> its a bug?
[02:16] <georgeblunt> exceswater: i had the problem, that it crashed during configuration.. this finishes all configuration tasks
[02:16] <Child4Christ> do you know the package name for adept?
[02:16] <exceswater> i understand
[02:17] <exceswater> thank you
[02:17] <exceswater> :d
[02:17] <georgeblunt> np ^^
[02:18] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: it is, yes.
[02:18] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: install that same sun package you were trying
[02:18] <georgeblunt> does anyone know anything about the xfree86-dga extension?
[02:19] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: sun-java5-jre
[02:19] <exceswater> it worked now
[02:19] <exceswater> 10x
[02:19] <Child4Christ> thx apokryphos, tryin to get adept to work :)
[02:20] <georgeblunt> exceswater: great :D
[02:20] <Child4Christ> ok umm, shouldnt be runnin 4 times an not on my screen right?
[02:21] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: sorry?
[02:21] <Child4Christ> adept didnt show up so i ps aux | grep adept and it looks like its running 4 times
[02:21] <Child4Christ> thing is i dont see it :/
[02:21] <apokryphos> oh
[02:22] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: are you doing alt+f2 -> adept
[02:22] <Child4Christ> no
[02:22] <Child4Christ> should i?
[02:22] <Child4Christ> not sure what alt+f2 does
[02:22] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: yeah, you should try it that way. Alt+f2 is KDE's quick-launcher
[02:23] <Child4Christ> ooo, thx!! :))))
[02:24] <apokryphos> does it work?
[02:24] <Child4Christ> yea, thx :)
[02:24] <Child4Christ> :D
[02:24] <apokryphos> cool
[02:25] <Child4Christ> it seems to be workin :D
[02:25] <Child4Christ> oh ok now i have java lol
[02:25] <Child4Christ> *hate
[02:25] <Child4Christ> more errors
[02:26] <exceswater> again
[02:26] <exceswater> noobie time :D
[02:26] <exceswater> i installed 3d desktop
[02:26] <exceswater> veeeery nice
[02:26] <exceswater> just show this to win users and they give up win :d
[02:26] <exceswater> but i dunno where to config it
[02:27] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: ok, one sec
[02:27] <Child4Christ> tyt
[02:27] <Child4Christ> :)
[02:27] <fek> moin
[02:28] <ubuntu> hi, can i install firefox within the live cd?
[02:28] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[02:28] <apokryphos> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:28] <apokryphos> hi fek
[02:29] <Child4Christ> its given me a screen
[02:29] <Child4Christ> "Editor" or "Noninteractive"
[02:29] <exceswater> who can help me about that 3d desktop
[02:29] <exceswater> :D
[02:29] <ThePianoGuy> exit
[02:30] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: no "dialog"?
[02:30] <Child4Christ> no its like the install screen for 5.10
[02:30] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: you're on 5.10? :/
[02:30] <Child4Christ> nah, 6.06 beta 2
[02:30] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: ok, switch to editor
[02:30] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: beta 2? Why =)
[02:31] <Child4Christ> but the screen on the term is like the 5.10 installer
[02:31] <apokryphos> that could be the cause of the problem
[02:31] <Child4Christ> cause its the only one i downloaded :P
[02:31] <Child4Christ> release wasnt out at the time ;p
[02:31] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: I recommend upgrading your system... heh, you should've mentioend that before :)
[02:31] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:31] <Child4Christ> dist-upgrade?
[02:32] <apokryphos> yup
[02:32] <Child4Christ> last time i used just upgrade an it said nothin to upgrade, install etc
[02:32] <Child4Christ> does that matter?
[02:32] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: try that now, we'll see.
[02:33] <Child4Christ> 3 not fully installed or removed. <-- might have proved a prob
[02:33] <apokryphos> huh?
[02:33] <exceswater> who can help me about 3d desktop configuration please
[02:33] <Child4Christ> atm its setting up libltdl3
[02:33] <apokryphos> exceswater: do you mean setting up xgl+compiz?
[02:33] <exceswater> defrysk: are you here
[02:33] <exceswater> nope
[02:34] <defrysk> ?
[02:34] <exceswater> i just installed from kubuntu: 3d desktop
[02:34] <defrysk> sup ?
[02:34] <exceswater> :D
[02:34] <exceswater> i cannot config something
[02:34] <exceswater> 3d desktop
[02:34] <exceswater> :D
[02:34] <defrysk> 3d deskop?
[02:34] <exceswater> the file is installe
[02:34] <defrysk> whats that ?
[02:34] <exceswater> installed
[02:34] <exceswater> if i hit ALT - F2 and type: 3ddesk
[02:34] <apokryphos> it's a little app for some "fake" 3ddesk stuff
[02:34] <exceswater> aha
[02:34] <exceswater> some like that
[02:35] <apokryphos> exceswater: run it from terminal, then you'll be able to see errors
[02:35] <exceswater> like in SUSE
[02:35] <exceswater> :D
[02:35] <apokryphos> exceswater: it's quite cool though
[02:35] <exceswater> it works
[02:35] <apokryphos> exceswater: no, suse has the real ones ;-)
[02:35] <defrysk> suse ? whats that ?
[02:35] <exceswater> but i cannot imagine how to config it
[02:35] <Child4Christ> should i just download an install the release version?
[02:35] <exceswater> another distro
[02:35] <apokryphos> Child4Christ: nope, just execute the above command
[02:35] <apokryphos> defrysk: /msg ubotu suse
[02:36] <Healot> SuSE - one of the best commercial bs out there :)
[02:36] <Child4Christ> bs?
[02:36] <defrysk> apokryphos, you really think I am that ignorent ?
[02:36] <apokryphos> defrysk: I don't know you, so I have no idea.
[02:36] <Child4Christ> i dont like SuSE, it doesnt like my sound card lol
[02:37] <apokryphos> ok, anyway...... :)
[02:37] <defrysk> novell crap
[02:37] <Healot> damn it's no crap
[02:37] <apokryphos> defrysk: please take it to -offtopic
[02:37] <defrysk> apokryphos, ?
[02:37] <exceswater> hey hey
[02:37] <exceswater> please help me
[02:37] <apokryphos> defrysk: what was unclear?
[02:38] <apokryphos> exceswater: did you type it in the terminal?
[02:38] <exceswater> how can i config that 3d desk
[02:38] <Healot> exceswater: that 3ddesktop?
[02:38] <exceswater> yes
[02:38] <apokryphos> exceswater: so what does it say
[02:38] <exceswater> it says it'a allready started
[02:38] <exceswater> :D
[02:38] <apokryphos> exceswater: ok, then you need to use one of the options to get it running
[02:38] <defrysk> apokryphos, what do I have to take to aff topic ?
[02:38] <exceswater> i dunno where to find config for it
[02:38] <defrysk> off
[02:38] <apokryphos> do 3ddesk --help or something
[02:38] <exceswater> how
[02:38] <exceswater> k
[02:38] <exceswater> i try
[02:38] <apokryphos> defrysk: your "novell crap" and other such offtopic messages.
[02:38] <defrysk> oic
[02:38] <defrysk> ok sorry
[02:38] <Child4Christ> should have man pages for that shouldnt it?
[02:39] <apokryphos> yup
[02:39] <apokryphos> or help pages, at least
[02:39] <Child4Christ> i find myself typing man app too much at times lol
[02:39] <exceswater> it doesn't do nothing
[02:39] <exceswater>  :D
[02:39] <exceswater> i google it
[02:39] <exceswater> :D
[02:40] <exceswater> please don't fight guys
[02:40] <exceswater> :D
[02:40] <apokryphos> on fighting here =)
[02:40] <exceswater>  /\
[02:40] <Child4Christ> apokryphos: do you know what libltdl3 is?
[02:41] <Healot> !info libltdl3
[02:41] <ubotu> libltdl3: (A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.5.22-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 163 kB, Installed size: 236 kB
[02:42] <Child4Christ> my term still says its setting it up
[02:42] <exceswater> anyone here from romania ?
[02:42] <Healot> The O-zone?
[02:43] <exceswater> heeh
[02:43] <exceswater> everybody numa numa
[02:43] <Healot> i guess there is/are someone from Romania besides you
[02:45] <Healot> exceswater: figure out that 3ddesktop switcher yet?
[02:46] <gil> anyone have time to give me instructions on setting up bootspslash screens
[02:46] <gil> i am a bit confused from most of the tutorials i have read
[02:47] <Healot> which tutorial might that be?
[02:47] <Healot> every Internet/Wikiwiki tutorials is confusing :)
[02:48] <gil> yes welll...i have got  a bunch of bootsplash screens from kde-look and i want to know the most easy efficient way of implementing it
[02:49] <Healot> those bootsplashes
[02:49] <gil> yes!
[02:49] <Child4Christ> umm, i think it might have crashed or something
[02:49] <Child4Christ> still says the same thing :/
[02:50] <Healot> damn gil, I only change those bootsplash for OEM... but never actually customize my own
[02:51] <gil> ok
[02:52] <Tobberoth> I'm thinking of installing the kubuntu-desktop package (I'm on normal ubuntu), how much will this mess up? Will it be easy to uninstall later if I don't desire it? Is it easy to jump between gnome and KDE?
[02:54] <Healot> yup you can remove the KDE desktop packages just like any other desktop metapackages
[02:54] <elton> Hello world! I need help, can anybody help me?
[02:54] <Healot> btw, the DM allows you to switch desktop
[02:54] <Healot> !usplash
[02:54] <ubotu> it has been said that usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:55] <Healot> gil >> that might help
[02:55] <Tobberoth> sounds good
[02:55] <elton> Hello world! I need help, can anybody help me?
[02:56] <Healot> wait a sec, that the grub usplash
[02:56] <Healot> !bootsplash
[02:56] <ubotu> Healot: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:56] <Healot> elton: question?
[02:57] <elton> Thanks Healot
[02:57] <elton> I'm brasilian, sorry for my bad english
[02:58] <elton> Healot, i have problems to run MP3 files
[02:58] <Healot> !mp3
[02:58] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:59] <elton> thanks
[02:59] <elton> I'm gonna see it now
[02:59] <elton> thanks
[02:59] <Healot> just ask if you encounter problems
[03:00] <elton> ok
[03:01] <elton> I have another problem
[03:01] <elton> I have two sound-card in my computer
[03:01] <Mitja> Where can I edit preferences for saving sessions?
[03:01] <elton> How can I change the default option?
[03:02] <hurraedgeht> yeah! ubuntu rulez!!!
[03:02] <Child4Christ> is there a reason its stuck on this? Setting up libltdl3 (1.5.22-2) ...
[03:03] <Healot> elton: just jack the headphone/speaker to the card you desire... btw if you have built in card, you can disable it in BIOS
[03:04] <Healot> gil: for the KDE splashcreen http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=35&PHPSESSID=e69df461df369ee7b418dd47c68badc0
[03:05] <elton> ok
[03:05] <elton> thanks
[03:05] <Healot> ky, off to the TV screen
[03:06] <gil> thanks healot
[03:06] <gil> i know the KDE one...thats simple/
[03:06] <gil> i am trying the boot splash one
[03:08] <Child4Christ> least bibletime works ^-^
[03:12] <tobberoth> Okey, I just did /etc/init.d kdm start
[03:12] <tobberoth> and I got a KDE log in window.. but uh.. it looks exactly like gnome once started
[03:14] <Child4Christ> shouldnt look like gnome
[03:14] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[03:15] <Child4Christ> should be a single bar on the bottom (called kicker)
[03:15] <tobberoth> Child4Christ: I have a bar at the top aswell.. exactly like in GNOME :/
[03:16] <Child4Christ> ...
[03:16] <Child4Christ> hmm
[03:16] <Child4Christ> sure you selected to log into KDE before you entered your login details?
[03:16] <tobberoth> hmm..
[03:16] <tobberoth> I'll try again
[03:17] <Child4Christ> theres an option on login called "Sessions" click it an select KDE
[03:17] <Child4Christ> think its at the bottom left
[03:18] <oem> hi.how can i tell grub to boot windows first? or how can i install lilo?
[03:18] <Child4Christ> when you boot up you have a timer, use the arrow keys on your keyboard and it stats, allows you to choose to boot windows
[03:19] <tobberoth> Yeah, found the error.. wow this looks nothing like GNOME^^
[03:19] <Child4Christ> lol yea, i prefer KDE :)
[03:19] <tobberoth> KDE looks more like windows really..
[03:19] <Child4Christ> i usually have mine looking like a mac
[03:20] <Child4Christ> doesnt have to
[03:20] <Child4Christ> once you customize it you can make it look nothing like win ;)
[03:20] <larson9999> how do you set up a global alias so that ll='s -l for everyone who logs in?
[03:21] <oem> child, i know that....but how can i set windows as standard?
[03:21] <tobberoth> hmm, seems amarok 1.4 isn't in adept either
[03:21] <Child4Christ> not sure :/
[03:22] <defrysk> tobberoth, deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[03:22] <Child4Christ> apt-get install amarok
[03:23] <tobberoth> defrysk, I don't know what to do with that
[03:23] <defrysk> tobberoth, nm then :)
[03:23] <tobberoth> I tried to write apt-get deb http etc
[03:23] <oem> bye guys....i'll ask you some silly questions again next week
[03:23] <tobberoth> but it didn't work
[03:24] <Child4Christ> oem best to ask in a grub channel
[03:24] <oem> i don't want to have grub...i'd prefer lilo but don't know how to install it
[03:25] <Snake> Digg is down hahahaah!
[03:25] <Child4Christ> if you made one mistake you wouldnt be able to boot anything
[03:25] <Child4Christ> if grubs wrote to the mbr it would be tricky cause its whats enabling you to boot any OS
[03:26] <tobberoth> I installed grub
[03:26] <Child4Christ> technically i wouldnt advise touching the boot loader
[03:26] <oem> but if i but in a win98 cd then grub is away
[03:26] <tobberoth> it was very simple
[03:26] <tobberoth> it was something like root (hd0,5) then setup (hd0,0)
[03:26] <oem> can i choose the boot.loader during the ubuntu install?
[03:27] <Child4Christ> think ubuntu just uses grub
[03:27] <oem> ok thx
[03:27] <oem> i have to go now
[03:29] <charlie5> hi, what package would i need to install to allow mp3 files to be played (.ogg are ok) after a fresh dapper install ?
[03:29] <geneo91> .
[03:29] <Child4Christ> they should play in totem
[03:29] <Child4Christ> but i use xmms
[03:30] <charlie5> i think i only have kaffeine and amarok with the fresh install
[03:31] <charlie5> xmms is a better choice ?
[03:31] <keyne> charlie5: this is gonna help you : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:31] <keyne> you need libxine-extracodecs
[03:32] <charlie5> keyne: ah, much obliged :)
[03:34] <Child4Christ> is there a donkey client for kubuntu?
[03:35] <keyne> Child4Christ: yeah, you can use amule
[03:35] <Child4Christ> is it avaliable via apt-get?
[03:35] <keyne> yeah, but you may need to add universe repository
[03:39] <Child4Christ> think im gonna have to give up on the java
[03:39] <paperangel> whats up guys
[03:40] <Child4Christ> ^-^
[03:40] <paperangel> lol
[03:40] <paperangel> i love kubuntu
[03:41] <paperangel> i usually use red hat stuf
[03:41] <paperangel> f
[03:41] <paperangel> but ubuntu is nice.
[03:41] <Child4Christ> BSD an CentOS is what i normally use
[03:41] <paperangel> i know a good gnutella client
[03:41] <paperangel> for kubuntu
[03:41] <Child4Christ> what is it?
[03:42] <paperangel> apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:42] <Platypus> Has anyone else had problems with the Kubuntu LiveCD and AMD's Cool'n'Quiet?
[03:43] <paperangel> do you have AIM C4C
[03:43] <Child4Christ> couldnt find the package :/
[03:44] <paperangel> are you using dapper
[03:44] <Child4Christ> yea, 6.06 beta 2
[03:44] <paperangel> ...type apt-get update
[03:45] <Child4Christ> some index files couldnt be used :/
[03:45] <paperangel> do you have any instant messengers
[03:45] <Child4Christ> Kopete
[03:46] <Child4Christ> right clicking something on the desktop seems to crash that an the desktop
[03:46] <paperangel> do you have aol
[03:46] <paperangel> damn
[03:46] <Child4Christ> nope ^-^
[03:46] <paperangel> your using KDE right?
[03:46] <Child4Christ> AOL free
[03:46] <Child4Christ> yep
[03:46] <paperangel> what clients do you have
[03:46] <paperangel> like sn for
[03:46] <Child4Christ> sn?
[03:46] <paperangel> screen name
[03:47] <Child4Christ> for Kopete?
[03:47] <Child4Christ> msn
[03:47] <paperangel> yah what is it
[03:48] <paperangel> i wat
[03:48] <paperangel> what kind of comp are you using
[03:48] <paperangel> wait*
[03:49] <Child4Christ> 1.10 gig pent III coppermine cpu, 256 ram
[03:49] <paperangel> hmm..
[03:49] <paperangel> www.linuxquestions.org
[03:51] <paperangel> that might be able to help you
[03:51] <Child4Christ> anyone know if the crash is a bug?
[03:51] <Child4Christ> happens quite a bit
[03:51] <paperangel> are you fully updated?
[03:51] <Child4Christ> have to kill Kopete to get it runnin right
[03:51] <Child4Christ> yup
[03:51] <paperangel> i have crashes too
[03:51] <paperangel> only for Konqueror though
[03:51] <paperangel> nothing really big
[03:52] <Child4Christ> left BSD due to a program i want crashing an i skipped CentOS cause i want KDE, hence Kubuntu ^-^
[03:53] <paperangel> my sn tfor msn is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:54] <Child4Christ> dont take offense if i dont add you justy ive had some nasty people on msn before :(
[03:54] <Child4Christ> *just
[03:54] <paperangel> ah its alright bro
[03:54] <paperangel> so, are you into angels any
[03:55] <Child4Christ> depends
[03:55] <Child4Christ> if their Gods angels, yes
[03:55] <paperangel> good.
[03:55] <paperangel> God is the shiznit.
[03:55] <paperangel> i dont really follow the church though
[03:56] <Child4Christ> i know satan took a load with him so angels arent always good :(
[03:56] <paperangel> i dont believe the fact that there are only 2 angels
[03:56] <Child4Christ> loads more
[03:56] <paperangel> in the christian religion
[03:56] <paperangel> yah
[03:56] <Child4Christ> satans one
[03:56] <paperangel> my favorites Gabriel
[03:56] <Child4Christ> >.<
[03:56] <paperangel> i like Raziel a lot too.
[03:56] <|apokryphos|> guys, please join us in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:57] <paperangel> lol alright
[04:08] <rene_> hi
[04:10] <Jolly_Jumper> hi#
[04:11] <Jolly_Jumper> komme bei meinem Problem nicht weiter. Hat jemand einen Tipp ? http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=3161
[04:12] <zax1> can any one help with driver installation
[04:12] <zax1> i am running xubuntu that was installed on the backof a breezy server install
[04:12] <Jolly_Jumper> sorry. is a english speaking channel.
[04:12] <Jolly_Jumper> :-(
[04:12] <zax1> but i need an intel driver for the display(or a better one than i am using) can anyone help?
[04:13] <Jolly_Jumper> i use 915resolution with an 1280x800 dislay
[04:18] <Jolly_Jumper> do somebody know a german speaking Kubuntu IRC channel?
[04:18] <v3ctor> do !de
[04:18] <v3ctor> !de
[04:18] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:18] <Jolly_Jumper> thx
[04:25] <chell> Kubuntu 6.06 rules
[04:27] <tobberoth> Um.. kopete doesn't seem to send my messeges
[04:27] <Child4Christ> is it set to online?
[04:27] <tobberoth> hmm.. seems it's just lagging really bad
[04:28] <Child4Christ> you'll have a ickle piccy on the bottom right, if its grey then its not online
[04:28] <tobberoth> It's not gray
[04:28] <Child4Christ> icon representing the protocol
[04:28] <Child4Christ> oh
[04:28] <Child4Christ> could be the service then
[04:29] <paperangel> i hate kopete
[04:29] <paperangel> i like GAIM
[04:29] <chell> I love Kopete, I hate GAIM ;-)
[04:31] <tobberoth> I think gaim is easier to use..
[04:31] <tobberoth> I can't get sound to work in kopete..
[04:31] <tobberoth> when I get messages etc
[04:31] <larson9999> gaim doesn't webcam.
[04:31] <tobberoth> neither do I :)
[04:31] <larson9999> or the last i looked it didn't
[04:32] <chell> I prefer KDE anyway
[04:32] <tobberoth> I sorta dislike not having a sound event when I get a message
[04:32] <larson9999> i run my computer with no sound whatsoever
[04:33] <tobberoth> hmm
[04:33] <tobberoth> maybe my sound iisn't even working on KDE..
[04:40] <tobberoth> Okey, I fixed the gpg key, how do I install AmaroK 1.4?
[04:40] <tobberoth> I know the apt source, but not how to use it
[04:40] <Child4Christ> try apt-get install amaork
[04:41] <tobberoth> Child4Christ: That will install 1.3.9
[04:41] <tobberoth> 1.3.9 can't find my iPod
[04:42] <Child4Christ> http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Download
[04:42] <Child4Christ> you can get Kubuntu ver from there
[04:44] <tobberoth> No I can't
[04:44] <tobberoth> that's the site I'm using
[04:44] <tobberoth> you just get the apt source, I have no idea what to do with it
[04:45] <Child4Christ> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <Child4Christ> try adding deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main but make a #comment line before it so you can remove it if you have to
[04:46] <TheFuzzball> hello, who knows the command for Kubuntu's Control Centre?
[04:47] <Child4Christ> click the big K and select control center
[04:47] <Child4Christ> opos, system settings
[04:47] <Child4Christ> *oops
[04:47] <charlie5> msettings ?
[04:47] <tobberoth> gah, I'
[04:47] <TheFuzzball> that makes kcontrol appear
[04:48] <tobberoth> I'm having so much trouble with my ubuntu ^^ now adept won't start
[04:48] <qbert> kubuntu no longer does dhclient on startup i have to do it manually each time, how can i correct it ?
[04:49] <TheFuzzball> when command do I type as an alternative to kcontrol?
[04:56] <serenity> hi
[04:57] <serenity> is anyone of you using manDVD?
[04:58] <Tommy2k4>  i have it set to mount a networked pc on boot up but that pc isnt always on when i boot, any way to make it auto mount when its turned on or at least keep trying every few mins until it is
[05:04] <serenity> i am looking for an apps to create a slideshow with ken-burns-effects...does anyone know one
[05:12] <DaSkreech> gwenview I think?
[05:14] <larson9999> i don't konw about that but apparently kuickshow doesn't work in dapper so i'm using gwenview as a replacement.  the only thing it doesn't have i want is the ability to scroll through pictures with the wheel.
[05:19] <Bassetts> where are the kubuntu forums?
[05:20] <niekie> Bassetts, http://kubuntuforums.net/
[05:20] <Bassetts> thanks
[05:20] <CPU_Wizard> hello everybody!
[05:21] <niekie> Hi CPU_Wizard.
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> i have a problem with kubuntu :-)
[05:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: hi sweetie
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> hello Tallia1Kubuntu :-)
[05:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> just kidding :)
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> i have an HP zd8000 series laptop
[05:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have the third leg
[05:21] <gsuveg> re
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> and i tried to install kubuntu 6.06
[05:21] <CPU_Wizard> i have some problems though....
[05:21] <gsuveg> where can i setup /msg nickserver ... in konversation ?
[05:22] <CPU_Wizard> how can i configure the fan and cpu control?
[05:22] <CPU_Wizard> my laptop gets very hot...
[05:22] <CPU_Wizard> any idea?
[05:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: klaptopdaemon
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> i have to download it?
[05:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you can't control directly the fan
[05:23] <drayen> anyone managed to get 64bit kubuntu working with a broadcom wireless card?
[05:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhhhh, dunno :)
[05:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try to start it! :)
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> ok, i have another problem too :-)
[05:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> once i insert a cd in the tray, i can't eject it
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> lol :-)
[05:23] <CPU_Wizard> what's responsible for this?
[05:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: maybe because once you put the CD inside it is mounted
[05:24] <uniq> the linux kernel locks the device when it's in use.
[05:24] <uniq> that's why.
[05:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so you have to unmount it before ejecting
[05:24] <[zev] > unmount it
[05:24] <uniq> right click on the cd device and "eject" it will be ejected.
[05:24] <CPU_Wizard> i try it but it says that the system uses the cd
[05:24] <CPU_Wizard> (something like that)
[05:24] <uniq> then something is using the cd.
[05:25] <uniq> a window open browsing the cd or something similar.
[05:25] <CPU_Wizard> obviously.... i 'll try to unmount it from the console
[05:25] <svivian> CPU_Wizard: I bet when you put the cd in, Konquerer opened a window or tab somewhere.  (Except mp3 playing, which wors perfectly)
[05:29] <CPU_Wizard> Tallia1Kubuntu, you are very lucky :-)
[05:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that's because ACPI is not enabled
[05:29] <sdlnxgk> how can I run programs as root???
[05:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo
[05:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sdlnxgk: sudo COMMAND
[05:30] <tobberoth> ACPI?
[05:30] <CPU_Wizard> the only distro that worked for me is suse 10.1 buti it's really heavy
[05:30] <CPU_Wizard> and slow
[05:30] <CPU_Wizard> so i want to try a few more times to make kubuntu work
[05:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kubuntu worked perfectly for me
[05:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and at the first try :)
[05:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i didn't know ANYTHING about linux before trying it from scratch
[05:31] <CPU_Wizard> i'm jellous! i'm going to format my disc right now!
[05:31] <CPU_Wizard> and let you know!
[05:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: to control the temperature of the laptop you need a CPU-throttle daemon like cpufreqd
[05:32] <CPU_Wizard> thank you Tallia1Kubuntu, i'll download it :-)
[05:32] <nubby> are there known issues with the newest firefox and kubutu?
[05:32] <nubby> in new to kubuntu :) this is my first install and run of it
[05:32] <sdlnxgk> not sure how to use the sudo COMMAND
[05:32] <CPU_Wizard> thank you for your time, i really appreciate it!
[05:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: then you can control the daemon and set the throttle profile you need ( Performance, powersave...) using klaptopdaemon for example
[05:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: download??
[05:32] <CPU_Wizard> it is included in kubuntu?
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: do you know what are repositories right? you don't need to downlaod it manually!!!
[05:33] <CPU_Wizard> yes :-)
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, ok :)
[05:33] <CPU_Wizard> what i need most
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !cpu
[05:33] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:33] <tobberoth> Can someone please help me get regular sounds working on KDE? :)
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !klaptopdaemon
[05:33] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> grrr
[05:33] <CPU_Wizard> is kbabel, i'm a kde translator so i need it
[05:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !cpufreqd
[05:33] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:33] <uniq> !fish
[05:33] <ubotu> I guess fish is A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[05:33] <uniq> !fishing
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... fishing is randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[05:33] <uniq> heh.. :)
[05:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> uniq: thnx, didn't know about it :)
[05:34] <CPU_Wizard> i hope next time i'll be talking to you via kubuntu :-)
[05:34] <CPU_Wizard> thank you!
[05:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> oh, maybe that will take some time :)
[05:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: a IRC client for kde is Konversation if you don't konw
[05:35] <omega> Hi
[05:35] <CPU_Wizard> i've been using suse for a long time :-)
[05:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> CPU_Wizard: or irssi if you are in trouble and you can use only the terminal
[05:35] <CPU_Wizard> thank you Tallia1Kubuntu! you are very helpful!
[05:36] <omega> Adept just crashed and now I can't start it anymore. If I click the entry in the kmenu, it'll ask for a password, but then it doesn't do anything.
[05:36] <larson9999> omega i'm getting the same error.  i had to reboot to get it to work
[05:37] <omega> I'm not getting any error at all.
[05:37] <omega> It asks for a password and after that nothing happens.
[05:37] <larson9999> omega: i meant an error as in things not working the way they should
[05:37] <nubby> holy wow
[05:37] <nubby> all i have to do is use the adept manager and it finds stuff for me?
[05:37] <nubby> and installs it?
[05:37] <larson9999> lol
[05:38] <barros_> how is the best way to setup iptables in kubuntu?
[05:38] <nubby> this is great
[05:38] <larson9999> nubby which distro did you use before that didn't have a package manager?
[05:38] <omega> Wait till it crashes, nubby. Then you can' t use it anymore.
[05:39] <larson9999> omega you can probably find a hung process out there to kill, no?
[05:39] <nubby> :(
[05:39] <omega> How do I do that?
[05:39] <nubby> well im very new to linux
[05:39] <nubby> first run with kubuntu
[05:39] <omega> I don't see adept in the list of ksysguard
[05:39] <nubby> i was using su commands and konsole b4
[05:40] <nubby> and was using suse
[05:40] <uniq> omega: try 'sudo fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock' from konsole
[05:40] <uniq> and then run adept from the menu again.
[05:40] <winbond> i need help setting up fglrx on 64bit
[05:40] <nubby> heck yes
[05:40] <nubby> wow
[05:41] <nubby> such a nub i am
[05:41] <omega> Apparently root is using the process.
[05:41] <nubby> whats the best IM client ?
[05:41] <uniq> nubby: kopete.
[05:41] <winbond> i did the apt-get for the fglrx and aticonfig --initial. i can see the login screen but when i log in i loose signal from the video card
[05:42] <uniq> nubby: not counting IRC as IM, konversation is good for IRC.
[05:42] <oelschle> I think gaim is the best IM client!
[05:42] <nubby> uniq: cool cool....thanks :) was unsure if i should set the default IM client up or if there was a better one :)  thy!
[05:42] <nubby> i used to use gaim
[05:43] <nubby> i wish amsn could do them all :)
[05:43] <winbond> i need help setting up fglrx on 64bit
[05:43] <winbond> i did the apt-get for the fglrx and aticonfig --initial. i can see the login screen but when i log in i loose signal from the video card
[05:43] <omega> uniq: Why doesn't adept inform the user that the process can't start or something similar? And is the console command the only way to get it to work again?
[05:44] <uniq> omega: because adept isn't the perfect application yet. :)
[05:44] <uniq> omega: did it work when you killed the process using /var/lib/dpkg/lock with fuser, and then re-ran adept?
[05:44] <omega> Yes.
[05:45] <omega> Thanks for that.
[05:45] <omega> How do I turn off this auto filter thing? It's making adept very slow to use.
[05:45] <omega> It's like a friggin' AJAX web application "lolz, we thought you were using enter too often, so here's the autofilter thing"
[05:46] <coreymon77> guys
[05:47] <uniq> omega: don't think you can configure much UI behaviour yet.
[05:47] <omega> Too bad. :)
[05:47] <coreymon77> so dapper final is out
[05:47] <omega> Anyway, thanks for the command. Guess I'll make a shortcut for that or something. Adept seems to be crashing rather often.
[05:48] <coreymon77> does lts still mean it is a pre release
[05:48] <coreymon77> or is it the final
[05:48] <uniq> coreymon77: Long Term Support.
[05:48] <coreymon77> what does that mean
[05:49] <coreymon77> should i upgrade
[05:49] <coreymon77> uniq: what does "Long Term Support" mean
[05:50] <uniq> coreymon77: it means it's supported longer than regular releases.
[05:50] <jpatrick> coreymon77: support for 5 years instead of 3
[05:50] <jpatrick> or something like that
[05:50] <coreymon77> uniq: is it the stable release
[05:50] <nubby> whats the best media player?  VLC media player ?  i love it for windows
[05:50] <LjL> it's good enough
[05:50] <coreymon77> uniq: or still a flight release
[05:51] <Child4Christ> 3 years instead of a couple of months, for servers its 7 years
[05:51] <uniq> coreymon77: yes, all ubuntu releases are considered stable when they are released.
[05:51] <coreymon77> okay
[05:51] <coreymon77> how should i upgrade
[05:51] <coreymon77> using adept?
[05:51] <coreymon77> or with apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:53] <antoine> Salut tout le monde !
[05:53] <jpatrick> antoine: saalut
[05:53] <jpatrick> !fr
[05:53] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:53] <nubby> i search for VLC media player in the adept manager but i dont find it
[05:53] <jpatrick> :)
[05:53] <jpatrick> nubby: I think it's in multiverse
[05:53] <antoine> J'ai un gros problme, vous savez pas comment installer grub sur une disquette avec linstall de dapper ?
[05:53] <jpatrick> universe
[05:53] <nubby> im a nub :) please explain what that means :)
[05:53] <jpatrick> !sources
[05:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> nubby: Yup :-)
[05:54] <nubby> oh wow
[05:54] <coreymon77> guys
[05:54] <LjL> antoine: apt-cache show grub-disk
[05:54] <coreymon77> how should i upgrade my dapper from flight 8
[05:54] <nubby> jpatrick: TY heaps!
[05:54] <coreymon77> using adept or with apt-et dist-upgrade
[05:55] <raj__> coreymon77: Update your repositories first with apt-get update, then fire away with apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:55] <coreymon77> raj_: not using adept?
[05:56] <omega> Can anyone explain to me the purpose of "Add/Remove programs"?
[05:56] <rraajj> coreymon77: That's using APT on the command line.
[05:56] <DaSkreech> nubby: Best media player is the one that works for you ;-)
[05:56] <insanekane> omega: migratory fear reduction ?
[05:56] <omega> Because it seems that it doesn't list all available software. Which adept seems to do.
[05:56] <coreymon77> alright
[05:56] <insanekane> omega: it supposed to be for the people who are too scared of using adept
[05:57] <antoine> merci mais peut-on empecher le programme dinstallation dinstaller grub sur le mbr du disque dur ?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: You can use eitehr
[05:57] <omega> insanekane: Maybe so, but that still doesn't explain why it can't find all software. =P
[05:57] <DaSkreech> the command line is safer
[05:57] <omega> What if I want to install the Opera browser, or Skype? Not listed there.
[05:57] <insanekane> omega: thats the point ... it doesnt have to
[05:57] <insanekane> omega: it just shows a very limited subset
[05:58] <omega> Hm.
[05:58] <coreymon77> i do i have to re-update my repositories
[05:58] <DaSkreech> !tel antoine about fr
[05:58] <ubotu> DaSkreech: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:58] <DaSkreech> !tell antoine about fr
[05:58] <coreymon77> because i updated them in order to upgrade from breezy to dapper flight 8
[06:00] <coreymon77> would i have to update my repositories again, or are they fine now
[06:01] <omega> Why are .deb packages opened with ark by default? Why doesn't it show me the install dialog instead? (Which is most probably the thing most users want, I assume?) Ark just fails and complains about it not being in my PATH or something.
[06:03] <insanekane> omega: Ark cannot handle deb packages
[06:03] <nubby> wow!
[06:03] <nubby> just upgraded the repositories!
[06:03] <nubby> fantastic stuff!
[06:03] <nubby> TY!
[06:05] <omega> insanekane: After installing Dapper Drake 6.06 it's automaticly set up to handle those files.
[06:06] <insanekane> omega: you should probably right click on them, and use the Kubuntu Package menu that appears
[06:06] <omega> How do I change it so that double clicking on a .deb will do the same as right-clicking selecing kubuntu packagemanagement and then install?
[06:09] <insanekane> omega: eh ...
[06:09] <insanekane> omega: in the words of the Soup Nazi "No Soup for You!!"
[06:13] <vasu> hi
[06:17] <Drakeson> can you tempt me to fetch edgy?
[06:17] <Drakeson> just a weak reason might suffice ;)
[06:18] <WoodwardAve> Drakeson: I'm trying to fight that temptation as well
[06:18] <Drakeson> is it 2.6.16 ?
[06:20] <WoodwardAve> Drakeson: I believe so
[06:20] <svivian> Woohoo! Local Linux guru helped me sort out my display! There were a bunch of modes added, probably by aticonfig, which were unnecessary. The display manager picked one larger than my monitor could do, which was why I had the problem.
[06:20] <WoodwardAve> 2.6.17 hasn't been integrated just yet
[06:20] <WoodwardAve> will be soon i believe
[06:20] <WoodwardAve> from what i've read
[06:21] <svivian> I still don't have GLX functional. I get the DRI error even though the load dri entry is in xorg.conf, oh well.
[06:21] <svivian> I still have a problem with printing, so if there are any print experts here, I could use some help
[06:21] <Drakeson> WoodwardAve: thanks
[06:22] <Drakeson> I try not to test it (calm myself down for today!)
[06:23] <Drakeson> though, there is not telling what this poor machine would be running tomorrow ;)
[06:27] <svivian> Any printer experts on?
[06:28] <damien_> Hey all, what needs to be done to get xorg-driver-fglrx with 3d accel working after running an update which includes a new linux-image?
[06:29] <damien_> I tried removing and reinstalling it but that didn't work...
[06:31] <damien_> It worked fine (by checking via fglrxinfo) before running the update, but went back to Mesa after the new linux-image... anyone know?
[06:31] <jwat> what is the easiest way to view windows shares/
[06:32] <damien_> jwat, I think going to Remote Places
[06:32] <nik> smb:/
[06:32] <damien_> From the menu right next to the Blue K icon
[06:32] <damien_> That works too :)
[06:33] <jwat> "remote places" does not view my windows network
[06:33] <damien_> Sorry then you click on Samba Shares
[06:33] <damien_> And that should show you your windows network
[06:34] <damien_> but it is basically the same thing as typing smb:/ in konq
[06:34] <jwat> I was using smb4k with breezy until I updated to dapper and now I get the annoying error message of "the account was disabled"
[06:36] <jwat> smb:/ in konq <-- Booyah!!!
[06:37] <nik> :)
[06:39] <svivian> Any printer experts on?
[06:41] <omega> Thanks insanekane. ;)
[06:41] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore.  All the packages are installed according to Adept, but when I go into Admin mode in System Settings, and try to add the driver, it tells me the driver either isn't installed or I dont have rights to it.
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Whats the problem?
[06:44] <lnxKDE> dbus and qtbus wont be see by kdelibs
[06:44] <DaSkreech> svivian: Well do you have rights to them?
[06:44] <svivian> I'm running in admin mode, I would assume that would allow me to access the driver library
[06:45] <svivian> DaSkreech: It seems to have some connection to locale as well. whenever I run the printer install, it resets my local to "Default"
[06:46] <svivian> DaSkreech: that should be locale to "Default"
[06:47] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.
[06:47] <svivian> DaSkreech: I can print, but only using RAW, which cuts the top 1/4 inch of my documents off
[06:47] <DaSkreech> lnxKDE: Which dbus is it?
[06:48] <torstefan> Hi, I am using Kopete as my IM agent. But it dosen't behave as I wish..  I would like to get a "bubble" only when someone pages me.. Is this possible?
[06:48] <DaSkreech> svivian: have you checked the forums?
[06:48] <torstefan> Now , there is a bubble everytime someone gets online, changes status, etc
[06:49] <lnxKDE> 0.62
[06:49] <DaSkreech> leafwiz: Stop changing your name right before I press tab :)
[06:49] <svivian> DaSkreech: I'm looking in as many places as I can
[06:49] <loanwolf> ? what package do i need for mpeg playback in xine
[06:49] <leafwiz> :)
[06:49] <DaSkreech> svivian: Ok Sorry about help here. Lots of folks are at conference I think
[06:50] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech : dbus0 0.62
[06:50] <DaSkreech> leafwiz: in the main kopete window can you check settings -> Notifications
[06:50] <lnxKDE> DaSkreech : see ya laterz gota go to work
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Cool
[06:51] <leafwiz> DaSkreech: yes, thx
[06:51] <omega> How do I change my password?
[06:52] <Hawkwind> omega: passwd
[06:52] <omega> passwd what? I don't see that option anywhere in System Settings.
[06:52] <Hawkwind> omega: Type it
[06:52] <LjL> passwd typed in a console
[06:52] <Hawkwind> passwd
[06:52] <uniq> omega: kmenu - system settings - user account - change password
[06:52] <Hawkwind> I don't use KDE so I don't know the graphical way
[06:53] <loanwolf> anyone know what package i need fore mpeg playback in xine
[06:53] <Hawkwind> When you do a apt-get dist-upgrade and a new kernel is installed, does that replace the current one, or install it next to the current one ?
[06:53] <LjL> Hawkwind: next to
[06:53] <omega> uniq: Do you mean users & settings?
[06:53] <omega> err, users & groups
[06:53] <Hawkwind> If it installs it next to the current one, how can I see a list of all installed kernels ?
[06:54] <uniq> omega: no,i mean user account.
[06:54] <Hawkwind> omega: Open up a console and simply type:  passwd
[06:54] <omega> Ah ok, I found it. Thanks uniq.
[06:54] <frank_> Hawkwind: it depends if the version number changes or not. It the version changes, the installs next to the old. If not it overwrites
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: teach the easy way first then the good way :-)
[06:54] <Hawkwind> Nevermind,  ls -l /boot/vmlinuz*  seems to give me the answer I wanted :)
[06:55] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: As I stated, I don't use KDE so I don't know the graphical way :P
[06:55] <LjL> frank_: i think the version number *always* changes, because at the very least the ubuntu number is changed
[06:55] <LjL> frank_: i just got 2.6.15-25 installed, and it installed alongside 2.6.15-23
[06:55] <Hawkwind> frank_: The version number always changes AFAIK
[06:55] <Hawkwind> LjL: Yeah same here.  Thanks guys :)
[06:55] <LjL> Hawkwind: also, you probably want to remove the old kernel *after* a reboot
[06:56] <frank_> Hawkwind: well security updates overwrite the old one AFAIK
[06:56] <Hawkwind> LjL: I always keep 2 kernels installed.  That way if something happens to one, I know I have another one that works I can boot to :)
[06:57] <LjL> that's reasonable enough
[06:57] <Hawkwind> Though I've screwed things up bad enough that neither kernel would boot
[06:57] <Hawkwind> Heh
[06:58] <LjL> eeeeh :)
[06:58] <McNutella> hey, how can I use my volume controls on the keyboard like I can with normal unibtu
[06:58] <Hawkwind> McNutella: Look into using lineak is one option
[06:59] <frank_> anyone know how to make kaffeine videos play 5% brighter all the time? I have to set it manually everytime I open kaffeine
[06:59] <LjL> McNutella: just assign the right keys to the relevant hotkeys in KMixer
[06:59] <frank_> for some reason, the upgrade to dapper caused videos to darken
[06:59] <McNutella> Hawkwind, nothing I can turn on in kubuntu ?
[06:59] <LjL> McNutella: if the keys are not recognized at all, then you should change your keyboard model in the control panel
[06:59] <McNutella> LjL, thats more like it, thanks
[07:00] <McNutella> LjL, will try out
[07:00] <LjL> McNutella: of course, you'll have to keep KMixer running. but i guess you're already doing that.
[07:00] <McNutella> i guess it is, somewhere :)
[07:01] <LjL> McNutella: note that, logically enough, the keyboard model is not set under Harware / Keyboard, but under Personal / Regional and Accessibility in System Settings
[07:02] <LjL> McNutella: the procedure for setting the hotkeys is also a bit involved
[07:03] <LjL> McNutella: first, start kmix, or if it's already started, click on the tray icon, then click mixer, and on the main window, right click on the master volume slider , and "configure global shortcuts"
[07:04] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.
[07:04] <loanwolf> ? anyone know what package i need to play mpeg video's....everything saying i dont have decoder
[07:04] <LjL> loanwolf: tried VLC?
[07:05] <loanwolf> LjL, is that a player
[07:05] <LjL> loanwolf: yes
[07:05] <loanwolf> no...just installed xine
[07:06] <coreymon77> hey guys
[07:07] <coreymon77> do i have to install/update to the new kde? or was kde upgraded along with the dapper update
[07:07] <coreymon77> ?
[07:07] <uniq> loanwolf: you can try to install libxine-extracodecs.
[07:08] <uniq> coreymon77: KDE was updated along with the dapper update.
[07:08] <LjL> coreymon77: dapper comes with kde 3.5.2. however, if you want, there is kde 3.5.3 in a special repository at kubuntu.org
[07:08] <loanwolf> uniq, ok..will try that after vlc installs
[07:08] <coreymon77> thanks ljl
[07:08] <uniq> loanwolf: you can also give 'codeine' a try. It's my videoplayer of choice.
[07:09] <loanwolf> uniq, i might try it...
[07:09] <LjL> uniq: that still uses xine though, afaics
[07:09] <DaSkreech> loanwolf: you may need extra-codecs?
[07:10] <uniq> ljl: sure, but it's the best i've tried so far.
[07:10] <leafwiz> Is there a media client that can stream SMB streams , and also search in the stream.
[07:10] <leafwiz> Kaffeine can open and play. It has a tendacy to crash, and it cant search..
[07:10] <LjL> uniq: i'll give it a try
[07:10] <leafwiz> Other clients like VNC and MPlayer, downloads the file to disk. Then playes it
[07:11] <coreymon77> what is this "Jonathan Ridell's Key" thing
[07:11] <LjL> leafwiz: VNC you mean VLC? VLC doesn't download streams, it just streams them
[07:11] <leafwiz> LjL: Yes..
[07:11] <coreymon77> do i need to get this key thing aswell?
[07:12] <uniq> ljl: does vlc support smb:/ ?
[07:12] <LjL> coreymon77: repositories are signed, so that you can be assured that the packages are genuine
[07:12] <LjL> coreymon77: i'm not sure you *need* the key, though i think with the latest APT you do
[07:12] <coreymon77> alright
[07:12] <LjL> coreymon77: there should be instructions for getting the key on the same kubuntu.org anyway
[07:12] <coreymon77> so do this whole wget this
[07:13] <LjL> uniq: oh, no. that's because smb:// is a KDE thing, and VLC is not KDE
[07:13] <uniq> ljl: exactly.
[07:13] <Child4Christ> can someone tell me the link to the wiki for installing java please?
[07:13] <Hawkwind> !java
[07:13] <leafwiz> LjL: So , Kaffeine is the only one with smb:// support?
[07:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and see also !javadebs
[07:14] <Child4Christ> ty :)
[07:14] <Hawkwind> Yep :)
[07:14] <LjL> i would *mount* samba shares anyday, though, rather than accessing them with KIOslaves
[07:14] <LjL> leafwiz: wouldn't know. other KDE players should have it too, i gues
[07:14] <damien_> Hey all, what needs to be done to get xorg-driver-fglrx with 3d accel working again after running an update which includes a new linux-image? (When it was working before)
[07:15] <damien_> Tried reinstalling the fglrx driver
[07:15] <coreymon77> guys
[07:15] <loanwolf> DaSkreech, i have all the extra's loaded
[07:16] <coreymon77> when i click on my sources.list file (as root) it says "KDEinit could not launch 'kate' " what does that mean?
[07:16] <leafwiz> LjL: mm.. What do you use?
[07:16] <LjL> leafwiz: VLC
[07:16] <coreymon77> but whn i go to the kmenu and try to open kate that way, it works
[07:16] <coreymon77> why?
[07:17] <leafwiz> LjL: Do u watch smb streams through it?
[07:17] <LjL> leafwiz: no. i have my samba shares mounted.
[07:19] <DaSkreech> damien_: You should try asking #ubuntu-xgl
[07:21] <coreymon77> guys
[07:22] <coreymon77> does it matter where i put deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main in my sources.list?
[07:23] <frank_> anyone know how to make kaffeine videos play 5% brighter all the time? I have to set it manually everytime I open kaffeine
[07:23] <frank_> for some reason, the upgrade to dapper caused videos to darken
[07:23] <coreymon77> because it when i run apt-get update the site i added is not showing
[07:23] <damien_> thanks will try that DaSkreech
[07:24] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: Nope
[07:24] <uniq> coreymon77: no.
[07:24] <frank_> coreymon77: it doesn't matter where you put it. as long as it's not commented out (no # in front)
[07:24] <coreymon77> why isnt is showing up in the list when i run apt-get update
[07:24] <coreymon77>  i looked through the output
[07:25] <coreymon77> never does it say
[07:25] <coreymon77> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[07:25] <frank_> coreymon77: not sure. It should work
[07:25] <coreymon77> is it a problem that it is not showing
[07:26] <coreymon77> this is what it does say
[07:26] <Child4Christ> how do i install the latest gnome and xfce desktops like in ubuntu and xubuntu?
[07:26] <LjL> sudo aptitude install (x)kubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <Child4Christ> (x)?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> coreymon77: press Full upgrade then preview files to see if you get a new KDE
[07:27] <LjL> sorry - i meant sudo aptitude install (x)ubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <LjL> meaning either ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[07:28] <Child4Christ> oh, ty :)
[07:28] <uniq> child4christ: xubuntu-desktop for xubuntu and ubuntu-desktop for gnome. And kubuntu-desktop for kubuntu
[07:28] <Hawkwind> LjL: Will that install xubuntu over top of Kubuntu or how does that work ?
[07:28] <coreymon77> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:28] <v3ctor> (k|x|ed)ubuntu
[07:28] <uniq> hawkwind: you can have all three installed at once.
[07:28] <v3ctor> you don't actuall put (x)
[07:28] <LjL> Hawkwind: what you said. when you login, you'll be able to choose which desktop to use from the Options menu
[07:28] <uniq> hawkwind: you can choose the session type in KDM/GDM.
[07:29] <LjL> Hawkwind: also, upon installation, it will ask whether you want to use GDM, KDM or XDM as the default display manager
[07:29] <coreymon77> ljl: i type that and it says bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[07:29] <Hawkwind> Ahhh ok.  I'm used to just installing xfce in Mandriva like urpmi xfce4 so I guess this is basically the same
[07:29] <Child4Christ> btw if anyone asks how to install java on kubuntu beta 2, it doesnt seem to work, they should upgrade to release ver for it ^-^
[07:29] <LjL> coreymon77: as we said --- type *either* "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" (for gnome) *or* "sudo aptitude-install xubuntu-desktop" (for xfce)
[07:30] <coreymon77> ljl: i have Kubuntu though
[07:30] <LjL> coreymon77: yes...?
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> Sysinfo for 'macisajt': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: mobileAMDAthlonXP-M2000+ at 1459 MHz (2920 bogomips), , RAM: 183/186MB, 79 proc's, 1.33h up
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> what is bogomips?
[07:30] <McNutella> im looking for an Amiga theme for my KDE desktop, any ideas anyone ?
[07:30] <LjL> McNutella: try kde-look.org
[07:31] <v3ctor> bogomips = bogus millions of instructrions per second
[07:31] <Child4Christ> fluxbox is good
[07:31] <McNutella> is it quite simple to install them themes? LjL
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> thx!
[07:31] <LjL> McNutella: don't see much though
[07:31] <coreymon77> what is xubuntu?
[07:31] <LjL> McNutella: not always
[07:31] <v3ctor> xubuntu = xfce ubuntu
[07:31] <Child4Christ> ubuntu with Xfce for older computers
[07:31] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, its ubuntu with a different enviroment
[07:31] <McNutella> i got a nice theme in gnome, doubt I can use them
[07:31] <LjL> coreymon77: ubuntu with xfce
[07:32] <admiral_proFTW> i dont like xfce
[07:32] <v3ctor> i like xfce
[07:32] <McNutella> i like nutella
[07:32] <LjL> McNutella: just install UAE and use that ;-)
[07:32] <admiral_proFTW> bah too much like windows
[07:32] <Child4Christ> think i used it once on dreamlinux, was aight but not as good as kde ^-^
[07:32] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: how's it more like windows than gnome is?
[07:32] <coreymon77> how do i upgrade my kde desktop to 3.5.3 is Kubuntu
[07:32] <McNutella> ljl there is always that, but thats a project for next month.. I already have two amigas, I just like the way they look at "just work" ;)
[07:33] <coreymon77> and keep it as Kubuntu
[07:33] <v3ctor> admiral_proFTW: i think you may have it conused with icewm
[07:33] <admiral_proFTW> i was under the impression it was laid out to be like windows to help Windows used to switch
[07:33] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, sudo apt-get update
[07:33] <McNutella> whats windows?
[07:33] <admiral_proFTW> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:33] <admiral_proFTW> might have to restart KDE
[07:33] <LjL> McNutella: my personal opinion is that using an amiga-like theme on gnome or kde would be being unfair to both amigaos and kde/gnome...
[07:34] <coreymon77> admiral: i have been told NEVER to use apt-get upgrade
[07:34] <McNutella> LjL,  I already have the close button on the left side on KDE coz im used to it that way, and the min/max on the otherside, minus anyother button
[07:34] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, WHO TOLD YOU THAT?
[07:34] <admiral_proFTW> they're stupid
[07:34] <LjL> apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:34] <admiral_proFTW> very very stupid
[07:34] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: anyway, you need to add the 3.5.3 repository first
[07:34] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, what version of ubuntu
[07:35] <admiral_proFTW> i take back the xfce
[07:35] <admiral_proFTW> had it confused
[07:35] <leafwiz> If I might ask... What's wrong with this: mount -t smbfs -o username="moviebox" //<IP_ADDRESS>/movies/ /media/movie_movies/   , No kernel support for smb?
[07:35] <LjL> leafwiz: use "-t cifs", not "-t smbfs"
[07:36] <LjL> smbfs is deprecated
[07:37] <coreymon77> admiral: i just upgraded to the newest dapper lts an hour ago
[07:37] <coreymon77> and doesnt using apt-get upgrade f**k up your system
[07:37] <LjL> McNutella: i have the windows gadgets set up that way too, but that's a different matter (i'm actually using an OS X-like theme for window gadgets, but only because it's nice enough)
[07:37] <admiral_proFTW> coreymon77, NO
[07:37] <admiral_proFTW> not at all
[07:37] <LjL> dist-upgrade *is* generally a better idea though
[07:38] <admiral_proFTW> unless there is not distro to update to
[07:38] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200.
[07:38] <McNutella> ljl and logical.. no point putting close beside anything else, just click it by mistake (at times)
[07:38] <mneisen> What to do now?
[07:38] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: uh? dist-upgrade works very well even if there is no specific "new" distro.
[07:38] <admiral_proFTW> reallt
[07:38] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: i just used dist-upgrade to simply download the new security updates. always did.
[07:38] <admiral_proFTW> i thought it was just for distrobutions
[07:39] <LjL> McNutella: agreed.
[07:39] <admiral_proFTW> LjL, oh well thanks for the word
[07:39] <admiral_proFTW> I always do apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[07:39] <LjL> admiral_proFTW: dist-upgrade simply tries to be smarter than simple upgrade. on the other hand, simple upgrade doesn't necessarly ruin your system, that's for sure.
[07:40] <LjL> even better is using aptitude ;9
[07:40] <admiral_proFTW> point is, coreymon77 whoever told you not to do and upgrade was stupid
[07:40] <admiral_proFTW> it doesnt mess up your sysytem
[07:40] <profoXP> is something wrong with amarok in k/ubuntu, because i cant play wma streams anymore, i could play them before, and i think i have the needed codecs, i use the xine backend
[07:41] <uniq> admiral_proftw: dist-upgrade is a smarter version of upgrade. upgrade will simply upgrade the currently installed packages to the newest version available. dist-upgrade can do more advanced stuff.
[07:41] <mneisen> profoXP: You might need to install windows codecs
[07:41] <profoXP> mneisen, i have added extra repositories and i think that i downloaded the needed codecs, what would i need ?
[07:42] <admiral_proFTW> uniq, well i usually only need to update packages, so i guess that works for my purposes
[07:42] <profoXP> mneisen, it sucks that some sites are only optimised for flash8/proprietary media formats :/
[07:42] <mneisen> profoXP: have a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29#head-68524fab57e2285050069d6845f95415f8ec8404 .
[07:44] <profoXP> mneisen, thank you, lets see
[07:46] <mneisen> hello, i upgraded to the new kernel today. now my wlan is not working anymore. I have a centrino-based laptop with ipw2200. What shall I do now? Anyone else has the same problems?
[07:46] <admiral_proFTW> !wireless
[07:46] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[07:46] <Rede> occasionally my wifi cuts out and i have to reboot my computer to restart it. is there a way i can restart my networking without a reboot?
[07:46] <admiral_proFTW> mneisen, check that out
[07:46] <hele> Same with my acx wlan card
[07:47] <Rede> i had the same problem on fc4, but id manually installed the wifi, so i knew how to restart the networking :\
[07:47] <hele> rede: Start to old kernel, it works for me
[07:47] <h3sp4wn> sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1 (presuming you are using wpa_supplicant and configuring from /etc/network/interfaces)
[07:48] <mneisen> admiral_proFTW: Thanks for the pointers, but I might not have made myself completely clear: I used to work until this morning when I upgraded to a new kernel.
[07:48] <Rede> hele: i only have the default kernel installed
[07:48] <mneisen> hele: I might try that, but then, I want to use an up-to-date kernel.
[07:48] <kosh> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   should restart all the network interfaces
[07:48] <LjL> McNutella: apt-cache show windowlab
[07:49] <profoXP> mneisen, back in the days, when i had an ipw2200 it stopped working too after kernel upgrade, I just had to wait until it got fixed (and use an older kernel in the meantime)
[07:49] <mneisen> profoXP: Thanks for this insightful tip.
[07:49] <profoXP> mneisen, ipw2200 is the most used WLAN so it will probably get fixed soon, if its a problem like that
[07:49] <mneisen> profoXP: Then I will reboot into the old kernel.
[07:49] <mneisen> cu
[07:49] <profoXP> mneisen, wait
[07:50] <McNutella> ljl, unable to show package windowlab ?
[07:50] <profoXP> mneisen, does dmesg tell you anything? oh hes gone
[07:52] <LjL> !info windowlab
[07:52] <ubotu> windowlab: (Small and simple Amiga-like window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.33-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 148 kB
[07:52] <LjL> McNutella: i bet you don't have universe enabled
[07:53] <McNutella> ljl I bet I do :P
[07:53] <LjL> McNutella: then i bet your system's broken :-)
[07:53] <McNutella> i bet its just me
[07:53] <McNutella> which universe we talking about ljl ?
[07:53] <LjL> the Universe repository
[07:53] <LjL> !universe
[07:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[07:54] <McNutella> yeah thats what I thought..
[07:56] <Child4Christ> just wonderin, if i install and run an ircd will i have to puch a hole in my box to allow connections?
[07:57] <Child4Christ> why im on Kubuntu, DesktopBSD wouldnt allow the connections
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> For desktopbsd you probably just needed a pf rule to allow the connections
[07:57] <uniq> child4christ: check firewalls and such. you can check that the ircd listens on the correct ports with 'sudo netstat -lpAinet'
[07:58] <Child4Christ> is it hard changing the iptables manually?
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> There is no iptables rules by default
[07:58] <uniq> there is no firewall by default afaik.
[07:58] <Child4Christ> so im unprotected right now?
[07:59] <Child4Christ> thats sounds nice lol
[07:59] <Child4Christ> sorry for the bad humor, lack of sleep
[07:59] <uniq> your problem is probably a cable modem or a router.
[08:00] <Child4Christ> i really should be in bed but my cats taken it
[08:00] <Child4Christ> my isp doesnt stop me running servers cause i had one running on windows
[08:00] <McNutella> idiot LOL
[08:00] <McNutella> root___ that is
[08:01] <Child4Christ> is he runnin irc as root?
[08:01] <Child4Christ> i never really understood why its such a bad thing
[08:02] <uniq> mcnutella: that doesn't mean he is an idiot. please respect the fact that this is a support channel. Not a "I'm better than you"-channel. Thanks :)
[08:02] <dergringo> :)
[08:03] <uniq> child4christ: root is mainly for maintainance and  system administration. Running anything as root, besides what's needed, is bad security practice.
[08:04] <Child4Christ> ran windows till i got the internet, linux is hard but fun ^-^
[08:04] <McNutella> slap my wrists
[08:06] <profoXP> I installed k/ubuntu next to archlinux, i forgot to save my old grub, and ubuntu didnt detect arch, can i still access the old menu.lst, because i mounted the partition, but i'm not allowed to go into /boot of that partition, otherwise i have to figure out where exactly archlinux resides (i can figure it out, but it would be easier and more fulfilling if i could fix this issue)
[08:07] <Pizmar> Why won't my icons on my desktop align themselves to the grid? I have the option enabled!!!
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> after loading kubuntu up (white scrolling text) i get a switch to black console, and then switch back to kubuntu logo, with the progress bar
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> there it stops
[08:09] <Scorpmoon> i burned the cd twice
[08:10] <Child4Christ> might have been a bad download, some data might have been corrupt
[08:10] <Child4Christ> could try a different mirror for the download
[08:10] <Child4Christ> or did you already do that?
[08:10] <Scorpmoon> no, the data looks fine from windows
[08:11] <Child4Christ> what speed did you burn at?
[08:11] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to x as a user but i can start x as root, helpppppl
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> low! 8x
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> i was told to try that yesterday
[08:11] <Child4Christ> that as slow as it will go?
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> yes
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> so i guess kubuntu is not for me?
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> i did ctrl alt F1
[08:11] <Scorpmoon> what can I write to start up manually?
[08:11] <Child4Christ> your hardware might not be supported, display anyways
[08:12] <Scorpmoon> ati card..
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> Have you tried the alternative cd
[08:12] <Scorpmoon> no, i want simple install or none :)
[08:12] <heinkel_111> anyone know how to do adjust the size of toolbar icons etc in dapper drake
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> (or alternate can't remember which it is)
[08:12] <heinkel_111> ?
[08:12] <uniq> scorpmoon: login with your username and password. try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'
[08:12] <heinkel_111> i like my larger breezy icons better
[08:12] <Scorpmoon> its live cd, i have no username yet :)
[08:12] <Child4Christ> using the alt cd sounds good
[08:13] <Scorpmoon> uniq, nop still stops
[08:13] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to x as a user but i can start x as root, helpppppl
[08:13] <profoXP> Scorpmoon, special hardware? laptop? graphics card?
[08:13] <Scorpmoon> amd64 desktop, ati x800xl
[08:13] <Scorpmoon> i don't see anything special
[08:13] <Child4Christ> did you download the 64 ver?
[08:13] <Scorpmoon> yep
[08:13] <Child4Christ> or the x86
[08:14] <profoXP> :)
[08:14] <Scorpmoon> x64
[08:14] <profoXP> hmmm /me doesnt know
[08:14] <Child4Christ> try the alternate cd like h3sp4wn suggested
[08:14] <profoXP> i only know about problems with laptops (broken bioses etc) but thats mostly at very beginning (while uncompressing kernel)
[08:14] <Scorpmoon> i aint gonna :) Ubuntu works
[08:14] <Scorpmoon> i just wanted to compare
[08:14] <profoXP> yes, make him download another cd lol
[08:15] <profoXP> Scorpmoon, well.. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:15] <profoXP> :P
[08:15] <profoXP> ubuntu and kubuntu arent too different
[08:15] <profoXP> they are built on the same stuff
[08:15] <andreas_> hello! in my konqueror windows, the "Window" menu is gone and nowhere to be seen. Any ideas how I can get it back?
[08:15] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl
[08:16] <Scorpmoon> mkay.. just gotta try opensuse and pcbsd before I put my bets on Ubuntu, final decision :)
[08:16] <Child4Christ> pcbsd isnt as good as its pegged
[08:16] <Child4Christ> last time i used it it wasnt exactally any good
[08:16] <profoXP> andreas_, are you in the video group ?
[08:17] <profoXP> (dont know for sure if there is a video group in ubuntu)
[08:17] <xwolf-> is it possible to run Qemu here in kubuntu to boot my windows installation in /dev/hda1?
[08:17] <profoXP> (there is)
[08:17] <andreas_> profoXP: ahum, let me check
[08:17] <andreas_> why would it matter?
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> qemu is seriously slow (unless you have a massively powerful computer
[08:18] <profoXP> andreas_, are you in the video group? (type: groups username)
[08:18] <Pizmar> hey hey, i got a question!!
[08:18] <andreas_> profoXP: yes, I am
[08:18] <xwolf-> h3sp4wn how's a pentium 4 2.8ghz good for it?
[08:18] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, kqemu module will optimize it and will even support full virtualisation AFTER the inital installation of the OS
[08:18] <Pizmar> So, when I double click on my mp3s, and beep opens them, it won't play... If I drag the icon into the playlist it will...
[08:18] <profoXP> xwolf-, I think it would be hard to boot an existing windows install in qemu
[08:19] <Pizmar> When I view track details, and look at name
[08:19] <xwolf-> really? i thought it could.
[08:19] <profoXP> xwolf-, I'm not saying its impossible, but I never heard about it (I wnated to do it myself a few weeks ago for school)
[08:19] <Pizmar> If I double clicked it, it will say home/user/mp3name
[08:19] <profoXP> xwolf-, maybe it can be done, I'm not sure, if you find out how, let me know ;)
[08:19] <xwolf-> k
[08:19] <Pizmar> but if i dragged it, it says the full directory name
[08:19] <Pizmar> they are on my windows partition by the way
[08:20] <wonbond> which folder is kdm installed in?
[08:20] <coreymon77> guys
[08:20] <profoXP> xwolf-, anyway, qemu is pretty slow whatever system you have, but when you use the kqemu kernel module it will go faster, installation of an OS in qemu is always slow because it doesnt support full virtualisation, only when the OS is up and running you can enable full virtualisation (the kqemu module will do that) if you provide an option
[08:20] <wonbond> which folder is kdm installed in?
[08:21] <coreymon77> whenever i go into knooueror
[08:21] <coreymon77> konqueror*
[08:21] <coreymon77> and try to go to my media folder
[08:21] <profoXP> xwolf-, and full virtualisation is faster (can be compared to vmware's speed, not super fast, but its workable)
[08:21] <xwolf-> profoXP the whole idea was to copy a few files from my linux partition to the winblows' one :>
[08:21] <coreymon77> it gives me an error saying "The KDE mediamanager is not running"
[08:21] <coreymon77> what does that mean
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: kqemu ? have you built debs for the kernel module ? - How fast is it in comparison to vmware ?
[08:22] <coreymon77> what is the kde media manager
[08:22] <coreymon77> and why arent things working
[08:22] <Pizmar> Anyone care to answer my question?
[08:22] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, err.. i use(d) it on my archlinux box really, i dont know about a .deb
[08:22] <xwolf-> coreymon77 breezy? dapper?
[08:22] <coreymon77> xwolf: dapper lts
[08:22] <xwolf-> dont know then.
[08:22] <coreymon77> i just updated a coulple hours ago
[08:22] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, it is almost as fast as vmware right now, a month ago it was alot slower, but kqemu supports a full virtualisation option now
[08:23] <coreymon77> anyone know what the KDE mediamanager is?
[08:23] <h3sp4wn> pofoXP: Can kqemu accelerate mips emulation or just x86 ?
[08:23] <profoXP> "Enable full virtualization mode for best performances. This mode only works with the following guest OSes: Linux 2.4, Linux 2.6, Windows 2000 and Windows XP. WARNING: for Windows 2000/XP, you cannot use it during installation."
[08:23] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, i think only x86
[08:24] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, KQEMU is supported on x86 or x86_64 Linux 2.4 or 2.6 hosts. Experimental versions are available for FreeBSD and Windows NT/2000/2003/XP.
[08:24] <profoXP> kqemu only works on x86 or x86_64, but i dont know what it can accelerate
[08:24] <Pizmar> So when I double click my mp3s, beep media player opens, but won't play the file. when i view the file info, it shows the directory as home/user/desktop/file which is incorrect... If i drag them into the playlist it shows the correct path, and will play.
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: Its not a mips host though I want just mips client
[08:26] <highvoltage> hi there. k3b only detects my dvd recorder as a cd-rom drive, it says that my drive can't record cd's or dvd's.
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: I will investigate that kernel accelerator
[08:26] <highvoltage> any idea on what i can do to fix that?
[08:26] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, i guess it can only accelerate x86 because afaik thats the point of kqemu, it can only accelerate what the host is running (I think)
[08:27] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, heres some info (on official site) http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/kqemu-doc.html
[08:27] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl
[08:27] <Child4Christ> bbiab
[08:27] <profoXP> When KQEMU runs in full virtualization mode, both guest kernel and user code are executed directly on the host CPU.
[08:30] <Pizmar> So when I double click my mp3s, beep media player opens, but won't play the file. when i view the file info, it shows the directory as home/user/desktop/file which is incorrect... If i drag them into the playlist it shows the correct path, and will play.
[08:31] <profoXP> Pizmar, probably beep's fault.. but i dont use it
[08:31] <uniq> pizmar: please don't repeat your question that often. If someone know they will help you. You don't have to ask again every 5 min. Thanks. :)
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: I am building the sid sources now (on dapper)
[08:31] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, for kqemu ? grea
[08:31] <profoXP> t
[08:31] <Pizmar> Well, this happens with every media player
[08:32] <Pizmar> Including amarok
[08:32] <Pizmar> but not Kaffeine
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: First I need to get a later version of qemu first - I think I will just do the kqemu manually
[08:33] <Pizmar> So mp3s work just fine on everyone else's computer?
[08:33] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> how are you starting X ?
[08:33] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, oh ok
[08:34] <profoXP> Pizmar, oh.. strange..
[08:34] <Pizmar> Maybe I'll try the forums
[08:34] <profoXP> Pizmar, i dont seem to have the problem, where are the files then? (if they are not at /home/.../desktop/...)
[08:35] <Pizmar> Well, in media/hda1/blah blah/Music
[08:35] <Pizmar> even if i copy one to desktop and double click it, the same thing happens
[08:35] <terminet> hi folk
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: It needs qemu 0.81 to be used - I may build kqemu properly but it wouldn't be much use to anyone else because I run 2.6.16
[08:36] <terminet> Can you help me, guys?
[08:36] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, bah, install a .15 kernel and build for that too ;)
[08:36] <uniq> terminet: please ask your question and we'll see :)
[08:36] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, i cant build now, because my "package/development laptop" is broken
[08:36] <profoXP> im using replacement hardware
[08:37] <wonbond> i installed fglrx as root and i cant login to KDE as a user but i can start x as root and it will launch KDE helpppppl
[08:38] <terminet> uniq: tnx ;) I've a strange problem, games an applications aren't fluid, but if press any key or mouse it's work right (I'm sorry for my english ;/)
[08:38] <PyroMithrandir> wonbond, have you tried logging in with any other normal user accounts?
[08:39] <wonbond> PyroMithrandir: i only have one user account
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Scorpmoon: The alternate Cd is pretty simple
[08:40] <PyroMithrandir> wonbond, you should make another to see if it is a problem only for the one user
[08:41] <Scorpmoon> its just, i want to try it out before install
[08:41] <wonbond> PyroMithrandir:ill try , ty
[08:41] <DaSkreech> andreas_: Try Ctrl+M
[08:42] <terminet> no idea? :(
[08:42] <gsuveg> re
[08:42] <highvoltage> i found my dvd problem. I had the wrong dvd drive plugged in. d'oh!
[08:42] <Blissex> highvoltage: if everything else, check the cable :-)
[08:42] <gsuveg> how can i put crypt with konqerror ?
[08:43] <profoXP> highvoltage, lol? the wrong hardware in your pc you mean?
[08:43] <DaSkreech> wonbond: which kdm
[08:43] <highvoltage> Blissex: that's what i did. I thought I should try a newer IDE cable, and when I wanted to plug it in, i noticed that my older dvd-rom, which is mostly forgotten, was still plugged in there ;)
[08:43] <cgeo> guys can anybody help me. for no apparent reason i cannot load x windows manager
[08:44] <Blissex> highvoltage: hehehehe. :-)
[08:44] <cgeo> i can only get konsole
[08:44] <highvoltage> profoXP: nope, i had an older drive in my pc that i forgot about. it camoflages with the black casing :)
[08:44] <Blissex> cgeo: we are sorry, but all our clairvoyant and telepathic advisors are busy on other lines :-)
[08:44] <wonbond> DaSkreech: the latest kde, 64bit kubuntu
[08:44] <profoXP> highvoltage, ;) oh
[08:45] <profoXP> hey, erm.. "/dev/hda3 /media/arch ext3 defaults,user_xattr,umask=0222 0 2" gives me: EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "umask=0222" or missing value
[08:45] <profoXP> , on ubuntu
[08:45] <profoXP> why doenst umask work ?
[08:46] <cgeo> Blissex yeah i know but i just can;t show you my xorg.conf here can i ???
[08:46] <Blissex> cgeo: what usually really matters is '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'. Check lines with "(EE)" in them, and the last 20 lines or so for errors.
[08:46] <profoXP> cgeo, http://ubuntu.pastebin.org
[08:47] <profoXP> .com
[08:47] <profoXP> damn
[08:47] <profoXP> cgeo, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:50] <profoXP> can anyone please test if playing the stream "mms://wm.streampower.be/4fm" works in Amarok ? it used to work on archlinux, but i cant get it to work on ubuntu
[08:51] <cgeo> Yeah, alraedy did that. it says "No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth"
[08:51] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: That is loads better (appart from the massive amount of dependancy problems I now have)
[08:51] <cgeo> Screen(s) found, but none has a usable configuration
[08:52] <cgeo> i changed to depth from 24 to 8 but still nothing
[08:52] <Mitja> I've used "update-rc.d <name> defaults" to set a startup script from /etc/init.d. The script was copied to many rc levels. Does it get executed as many times as the levels at booting or just once?
[08:53] <andreas_> DaSkreech: isn't that for showing/hiding the menubar?
[08:53] <andreas_> either way, no change
[08:53] <uniq> mitja: just once.
[08:53] <profoXP> cgeo, change it back to 24 :) thats not the problem, paste your Xorg.0.log with the lines containing (EE) on http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[08:53] <andreas_> :(
[08:53] <Mitja> It's not working then. What am I missing?
[08:53] <terminet> profoXP: work ;)
[08:54] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, what dep problems ?
[08:54] <Mitja> It has #!/bin/sh at the top...
[08:54] <profoXP> terminet, oh. damn. using default amarok or the 1.4 version ? (from alternative repo)
[08:54] <cgeo> ok.just a sec profoXP
[08:54] <profoXP> I could try out the official 1.3.x one
[08:54] <uniq> mitja: did you make it yourself?
[08:54] <Mitja> uniq, yes
[08:55] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: I need to somehow build sparc-utils (in order to build proll)
[08:55] <terminet> 1.3.9
[08:55] <uniq> mitja: did you make sure it accepts start and stop arguments?
[08:55] <profoXP> h3sp4wn, pff no idea.. in arch building goes kinda automatically with ABS :P
[08:55] <Mitja> Is that something I have to put inside it?
[08:55] <profoXP> (one thing where arch is really strong)
[08:55] <uniq> mitja: use /etc/init.d/skelton as a template.
[08:56] <DaSkreech> andreas_: Sorry what was the problem?
[08:56] <terminet> profoXP: Have you any idea for my problem?
[08:57] <Ayabara> I just installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu and set kdm as default. when I booted I got the kubuntu login screen, but after I logged in it went back to ubuntu. any ideas?
[08:57] <uniq> ayabara: select KDE from the sessions list in KDM.
[08:58] <Mitja> uniq, thanks
[08:58] <Ayabara> uniq: thanks, should've known that...
[08:58] <profoXP> terminet, what problem
[08:58] <terminet>  I've a strange problem, games an applications aren't fluid, but if press any key or mouse it's work right (I'm sorry for my english ;/)
[08:59] <Mitja> uniq, but I don't have any daemon, I just want 2 simple commands to get executed
[08:59] <andreas_> DaSkreech: the "Window" menuitem in the menubar is gone (in Konqueror)
[08:59] <terminet> I'm using flgrx with ati x700
[08:59] <DaSkreech> Oh Yeah
[08:59] <profoXP> terminet, i would say its haunted :/
[08:59] <DaSkreech> What about it?
[08:59] <andreas_> I have no idea when it disappered because I haven't had a use for it before
[09:00] <profoXP> terminet, I ran fglrx + x700 on my old laptop, it worked fine
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Right so what do you want to do now?
[09:00] <uniq> mitja: put them in /etc/rc.local
[09:00] <andreas_> DaSkreech: well, I want to get it back :)
[09:00] <DaSkreech> For asethic purposes?
[09:00] <Mitja> uniq, that's all? no update-rc.d ?
[09:01] <terminet> uff dude do you use xorg 7.0 ?
[09:01] <andreas_> DaSkreech: no, I need the split window and the "Tool views"
[09:01] <McNutella> like ubuntus gconfig, what is KDEs variables configurator ?
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+Shift+T For horizontal and Ctrl+Shift+L for vertical
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Ctrl+Shift+R to close the one you are currently focused on
[09:02] <andreas_> DaSkreech: I appreciate it, but the problem is the menuitem - I want it, not a compromise :)
[09:03] <DaSkreech> andreas_: Ahmm Then I think that #kde would be more helpful right now :)
[09:03] <zym0tic> Hi people, since I have kubuntu 6.06 my network browsing isn't working anymore. opening network services says: The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running. and browsing samba shares says: the process for the smb://workgroup died unexpectedly
[09:05] <svivian_> andreas_: Try reopening Konq. I found that if I opened it as a web browser, then tried to do file stuff, I lost the tree pane and the tool tabs. If I opened it explicitly for file work, I could access those.
[09:05] <andreas_> svivian_: sorry, no luck
[09:05] <cgeo> guys i am running kubuntu live cd. i also have it installed. can anybvody tell me how to mount / and have access to it through the livecd???
[09:06] <natalie> hi
[09:06] <h3sp4wn> profoXP: I have got it working just used the binary packages from sid for proll and openhackware (I don't think it would be easy to cross compile for sparc and mac respectively and it fixes the dependancies)
[09:07] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:09] <jean-francois> log
[09:10] <fatejudger> is there a changelog for the new kernel patches?
[09:16] <wonbond> i just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me
[09:16] <zodo> Hey folks...I keep having an issue where some application (I think amaroK) goes wild on my hard drive, doing something, bringing the whole system to a crawl.  When it happens, is there some command I can run to see what applications are doing what with my HD?
[09:18] <wonbond> zodo there is a app that will catch runaway processes
[09:19] <wonbond> zodo: exept i dont remember the name of it
[09:20] <wonbond> i just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me
[09:25] <loanwolf> ? is there away i can use the mutimedia keys on my keyboard
[09:25] <Blissex> loanwolf: yes, but forget about it.
[09:26] <loanwolf> Blissex, what is it that hard..or dont work the best
[09:26] <Blissex> loanwolf: just to explain what you have to do is complicated.
[09:27] <McNutella> any reason why Ktorrent would usually come up with errors, including "tracker is down"
[09:28] <loanwolf> Blissex, ok....i just wanted to use the volume keys with with master channel in kmix
[09:28] <uniq> loanwolf: system settings -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout -> enable keyboard layouts, and select a keyboard model close to yours in the list.
[09:28] <Blissex> loanwolf: hehehehe, they all want to do that :-). Do you know the ''Flying dutchman'' legend? He too wanted to find a way to use his multimedia keys :-)
[09:29] <uniq> blissex: it's not that hard :)
[09:29] <loanwolf> Blissex, nope dont know them
[09:30] <loanwolf> uniq, thank you
[09:30] <Blissex> uniq: depends on how geeky you are :-)
[09:30] <MasterEvilAce> just curious.. how difficult is it to port a Visual C# app to linux?
[09:31] <Scorpmoon> I just made Kubuntu work, it was THIS bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/38649
[09:31] <Scorpmoon> silly little bug
[09:31] <leafwiz>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY heihei
[09:31] <MasterEvilAce> ...
[09:31] <MasterEvilAce> change  your pass now leafwiz
[09:31] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: hehehehe. Depends. If it uses a lot of .NET not good, as to pure C#, very easy.
[09:31] <leafwiz> arg.. :P
[09:31] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: ah, shame :P
[09:33] <Blissex> loanwolf: however, the brief summary is: find and XKB layout that includes your keys, and then bind those keys to even using keyboard shortcuts in KMix or using DCOP.
[09:33] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: however, most port pretty easily.
[09:33] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: so it is most likely worth a try. Even pretty complex ones work OK, as long as they don't do too much DB stuff.
[09:34] <MasterEvilAce> holy crap my screen is getting blurrier every day
[09:34] <MasterEvilAce> what's that before STUFF?
[09:34] <MasterEvilAce> DO?
[09:34] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: BTW, viceversa is usually very easy: if developed on GNU/Linux, it will ''just work'' (usually) on MS Windows.
[09:34] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: CRT monitor?
[09:34] <zodo> I've been monkeying with xmodmap and the xorg conf trying to get my Logitech MX510 mouse working with all of the buttons.  Does anyone know where I can find the order of how xmodmap uses the buttons?  I know what button is what on the mouse...but not where to put them in xmodmap.
[09:35] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah.. i bought it from my friend two years ago maybe. he said it was always sharp. I don't remember the quality when i brought it home.. i just notice that there's a bunch of wavy electromagnetic interference type stuff on my screen. more noticable on solid colors
[09:35] <Blissex> zodo: 'xmodmap' is obsolete...
[09:36] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: ahhhhhhhhhh.
[09:36] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah :-/ i hope i don't need a new monitor
[09:36] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: well, there are two interesting points here.
[09:36] <zodo> Oh...well that would explain my issues, perhaps.  What has it been replaced by?
[09:37] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: first: bad color quality often is a degaussing issue. Try degaussing or just switching the monitor off for 5-10 minutes occasionally.
[09:37] <iNiku> hmm, new kernel
[09:37] <iNiku> or maybe not so new, I haven't updated in a few days
[09:37] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: second, it is amazing how bad an influence on a CRT can be _any_ electrical/electronic stuff in its vicinity, like a radio, a speaker, a mobile phone.
[09:38] <zodo> Its also amazing how big an effect GSM cellphones can have on CRTs.
[09:38] <iNiku> true, for a long time I was able to tell I was getting a call on my mobile several seconds before it actually started ringing, just by looking at my monitors
[09:38] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: finally, many monitors drift in convergence and focus. Most have electronic (if expensive) or mechanical dials (if cheap) convergence/focus regulations.
[09:38] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah, degaussing doesn't have an effect. not a real color problem.. just VERY blurry. the problem is less and less the lower the resolution i use.. however I know that this resolution (1280x1024) is supported.. but it is the blurriest res
[09:39] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: i heard about the focusing thing.. that requires taking the monitor apart though i believe
[09:39] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: depends on the monitor, many have controls for that.
[09:39] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: look at the various options on the OSM.
[09:39] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah there's nothing there for it
[09:39] <svivian_> MasterEvilAce: You don't by chance still have the protective film on the screen (stupid q I know)
[09:40] <MasterEvilAce> svivian_: nope
[09:40] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: also, most CRTs are rather blurry at their highest res. Like 17" are really designed for 1024x768, or at most 1152x864.
[09:40] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: even if 17" can do 1280x1024, thats not what they are designed for...
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> Diamondtron or trinitron crt's look fine at 1600 by 1200
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> (17")
[09:41] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: yeah, i don't remember having a problem a year ago.. but it seems to be getting worse... I think the blur is caused by the wavy crap i'm getting. it's a 19" EPI Envision  EN-980e
[09:41] <Mitja> I'm interested too: what should we use instead of xmodmap?
[09:42] <Blissex> Mitja: well, the horrible answer is XKB, which is both very flexible and very incomprehensible.
[09:42] <Blissex> Mitja: there are (very) few XKB tutorials etc. on the web, that help somehow.
[09:42] <zodo> I was thinking that there must be some sort of easy GUI front end for xmodmap somewhere...maybe for XKB...I just can't find it.
[09:43] <Blissex> Mitja: the XKB config utility is 'setxkbmap' and the KDE frontend for (some) of it is 'kxkb'
[09:45] <Mitja> kxkb won't run, no reason displayed
[09:45] <Mitja> or error thrown
[09:45] <zodo> Is XKB just keyboards, or mice too?
[09:46] <Blissex> zodo: XKB is the keyboard side of XINPUT, which is the new way of doing everything...
[09:46] <Blissex> zodo: or perhaps I am getting confused. :-) But use those keyboards for a search.
[09:48] <wonbond> i just installed kubuntu 64bit and got the fglrx as root and it wont let me log into kde as a user , only as root from recovery mode , can somone help me
[09:48] <Blissex> wonbond: thats probably just an installation mishap, nothing to do with 'fglrx'.
[09:49] <Blissex> wonbond: log in as 'root' and then add yourself as new user. Check '/etc/passwd'.
[09:49] <wonbond> Blissex: i already made a new user from root , but i couldnt log in with that account either
[09:50] <Blissex> wonbond: then check the logs in '/var/log/' as to the reason why.
[09:50] <omega> Hi
[09:50] <omega> Could someone do me a favor and make me a screenshot of the display settings in KDE? Kguidance I think it was called?
[09:51] <omega> I can't find any online.
[09:51] <wonbond> Blissex: which log should i look at?
[09:51] <Blissex> wonbond: the most recently updated, check with 'ls -ltr /var/log'
[09:54] <wonbond> whats the pastebin url?
[09:55] <Blissex> wonbond: guess :-)
[09:55] <wonbond> pastebin.edu?
[09:56] <Blissex> wonbond: hardly .edu :-)
[09:57] <wonbond> Blissex: ok , could you look at it please .  im new , dont really know whats going on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15773
[09:58] <Blissex> wonbond: as to im new fine, but sysadm in either MS Windows and GNU/Linux is hard stuff, so be ware...
[09:59] <Blissex> wonbond: thats the X log, it has nothing to do with login/GDM/KDM issues... Try 'messages' or 'secure' or whatever else your system produces.
[10:01] <wonbond> Blissex: could this be a problem?
[10:01] <wonbond> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[10:01] <wonbond> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/event
[10:01] <wonbond> 	No such file or directory.
[10:02] <Blissex> wonbond: the security policy yes, the event file no (I think).
[10:02] <slicslak> how do i lookup a hostname with an IP address?
[10:03] <wonbond> Blissex: ok , thanks you , i got to run to school
[10:03] <slicslak> nm, host
[10:05] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: oops, completely forgot about you, and yes a 19" should do 1280x1024 nicely.
[10:10] <Ayabara> the media keys on my inspiron 6000 doesn't work in kubuntu, but it works in ubuntu. any help appreciated
[10:11] <D4m4ge> hello
[10:11] <D4m4ge> can someone pastebin his /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[10:11] <D4m4ge> for me*
[10:12] <D4m4ge> grub died :(
[10:12] <uniq> ubotu tell ayabara about kmediakeys
[10:14] <MasterEvilAce> Blissex: you have any experience with focusing a monitor? this one site says you can usually take the back of the monitor off and there's an adjustment you can make
[10:14] <Ayabara> uniq: thanks!
[10:14] <uniq> ayabara: happy to help, did it work for you? :)
[10:15] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: yes, some experience, but all monitors that I have used have had an _external_ dial for focus or an OSD setting for it.
[10:15] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: however it could also be convergence...
[10:15] <Blissex> MasterEvilAce: anyhow, if you open your monitor, let it rest for around 30-50 minutes after powering it off at least before touching it. It can be _very_ dangerous.
[10:17] <Ayabara> uniq: like a charm I think :-)