[13:35] <chud> :)
[13:35] <miroknic> i have a dual boot laptop with ubuntu and windows7 installed..now the issue is that my down key is not working..so is there any way to select windows from the boot entry
[13:35] <miroknic> without editing the grub or making windows7 as the default os to boot into
[13:39] <miroknic> anybody knows about my query?
[13:39] <varikonniemi> can you cycle the menu by pressing up? :D
[13:39] <miroknic> varikonniemi: no..it's not cycling
[13:40] <miroknic> any way to make it cycle
[13:40] <varikonniemi> you should be able to select what to boot from the grub cmd line
[13:40] <chud> Fn-K ?
[13:40] <varikonniemi> look into that
[13:40] <chud> Fn-K on my laptop is down arrow, i dont know if it works in grub though
[13:41] <miroknic> ok would check it
[13:41] <miroknic> and tell
[13:41] <miroknic> thanks guys
[13:41] <miroknic> :)
[13:42] <varikonniemi> you could always compile grub and make another key cycle down than down :)
[13:42] <varikonniemi> but yeah, if you were capable of that you would not be here asking for help :)
[13:42] <chud> or buy a new keyboard
[13:42] <varikonniemi> on laptops it can be difficult/very expensive
[13:43] <BluesKaj> just buy a plain keyboard, usb or whatever , even wireless are cheap now
[13:44] <chud> its usually dead easy to change a keyboard on a laptop
[13:45] <BluesKaj> too bad , he missed our good advice
[13:48] <chud> ah ha, Page Down, then use up arrow is one other solution :)
[13:49] <amtron> whats up pal
[13:49] <BluesKaj> which pal? :)
[13:50] <SuRfDaEmOn> all of them
[13:50] <amtron> you pal
[13:51] <nopf> hm. something in my networking in a running vserver is broken. i connects to some addresses via port 80 and 22, but not to others. it pings some, but not all. i think restarting networking would work, but is there any way i can see why and whats happening or not?
[13:53] <Walex> nopf: yes.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> amtron, stop that DCCing , I don't want it , thanks
[13:54] <amtron> hey blueskaj can u giv me some awesome videos
[13:54] <nopf> Walex: yes, but how :) ?
[13:55] <amtron> oh dnt get annoyed i m sorry
[13:55] <BluesKaj> amtron, this isn't a software download/exchange site , it's ubuntu support
[13:56] <mini> just downloaded 13.04 yesterday. I like it but i do not see great difference, maybe i am missing something, i do see it is faster
[14:05] <Kartagis> hi
[14:06] <Kartagis> I need to increase resolution to 1366x768. is xorg.conf the only way?
[14:07] <MoPac> Kartagis: Are you using the generic Xorg drivers or proprietary (say, Nvidia) drivers?
[14:07] <Left_Turn> hey sorry.. but how do i type or move something to the current directory. Like mv /home/user/downlads [??current dir??]
[14:08] <Kartagis> MoPac: generic
[14:08] <Kartagis> Left_Turn: .
[14:08] <zykotick9> Left_Turn: "." is your current directory.  so "mv /home/foo/file ."
[14:09] <Left_Turn> ok thanks guys
[14:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: xorg.conf is the correct way to set the display resolution
[14:09] <MoPac> Kartagis: There may be GUIs to help with it, like http://sourceforge.net/projects/xorg-edit/
[14:09] <MoPac> I don't know how current they are
[14:09] <ikonia> you don't need an app to edit it, it's just a text file
[14:10] <oupateddie> how do I get the flash player to work again. It suddenly started crashing last week and all applications using it do not work.
[14:10] <bigbadben> Does anyone know what setting to make the "fade trancsparency" on the window bar go away http://imgur.com/coUQxU4
[14:10] <bigbadben> See how the word inverse blends with my desktop?
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> bigbadben  unity-tweak has a lot of settings
[14:11] <miroknic> chud :looks like there is no way to boot into windows partition without editing boot sequence or chainloading windows ..when the down key is not working
[14:12] <bigbadben> MonkeyDust, I think it is a compiz setting
[14:12] <bigbadben> but it is making me mad
[14:15] <oupateddie> flashplayer is crashing on 12.04 I have Version: 11,2,202,297 installed. Anybody can help here?
[14:16] <jdoles> oupateddie: install latest drivers/install different hardware/install Windows/don
[14:16] <jdoles> oupateddie: 't use Flash at all/use gnash (if you like lower res movies).
[14:17] <jdoles> oupateddie: /live with it.
[14:17] <bigbadben> Also is there anyone who has some time to help teach me to compile a package?
[14:17] <jdoles> oupateddie: that's the executive summary of what you can do.
[14:17] <oupateddie> Why is it crashing since 3 days ago. It used to work
[14:17] <jdoles> oupateddie: because you did something slightly different.
[14:17] <jdoles> oupateddie: do not waste time on it.
[14:17] <oupateddie> can it be due to an update on firefox
[14:18] <jdoles> oupateddie: no
[14:18] <oupateddie> Ok so what do you say
[14:18] <oupateddie> I need the applications to do my work and WIndows is no option
[14:18] <jdoles> oupateddie: Flash is basically a piece of software created by a bunch of incompetent idiots.
[14:18] <jdoles> oupateddie: (because otherwise it would have worked)
[14:18] <oupateddie> Yes I know
[14:18] <OerHeks> oupateddie, re-install flashplugin, maybe FF 23 update has broken the plugin?
[14:18] <jdoles> oupateddie: so, you have to consider whether you even *want* to use such broken stuff.
[14:19] <OerHeks> update was 3 days ago
[14:19] <jdoles> oupateddie: you can also install Windows in a VM and Flash runs 5 times faster there.
[14:19] <OerHeks> jdoles how is that helping him?
[14:19] <jdoles> OerHeks: there is *no* solution.
[14:19] <oupateddie> Must I remove the flash first and then reinstall
[14:19] <jdoles> oupateddie: reinstalling has no effect.
[14:19] <OerHeks> oupateddie, yes, use the purge option
[14:20] <jdoles> oupateddie: there is just some programmer, probably at Adobe, who made a mistake.
[14:20] <oupateddie> purge all flash related software and then reinstall
[14:20] <OerHeks> oupateddie, before re-install, restart the browser
[14:20] <jdoles> OerHeks: you can pay someone 10,000$ and it would likely even be possible to fix it without their help.
[14:20] <oupateddie> Must I use the Ubuntu Software Centre to install the fleash plugin
[14:21] <jdoles> oupateddie: but otherwise, there is no hope for anyone other than Adobe to fix it.
[14:21] <jdoles> (and since they don't care about Linux/are too incompetent to release working software, that's unlikely)
[14:21] <OerHeks> jdoles please stop your rant, it is not helping.
[14:21] <oupateddie> Ok let me recap, I purga all falsh stuff and then reinstall
[14:21] <jdoles> oupateddie: and there is no reason why that would work.
[14:22] <jdoles> oupateddie: all you are doing is removing the exact same bits and placing them back again.
[14:22] <oupateddie> guys I can't do my work as the online system needs flash to work
[14:22] <jdoles> oupateddie: also, what flash application crashes?
[14:23] <jdoles> I can imagine that in some cases, it's not even Adobe's fault per se.
[14:23] <oupateddie> I need to upload articles to a newspaper and it seems as if they are using a flash based application
[14:23] <oupateddie> As I say it used to work prior to FF23
[14:23] <jdoles> oupateddie: or try Chromium.
[14:23] <oupateddie> Same problem there with flash crashing
[14:23] <oupateddie> Also Opera
[14:24] <jdoles> oupateddie: at such a point, I would simply inform the newspaper to get their act together.
[14:24] <BluesKaj> oupateddie, chromium ?
[14:24] <OerHeks> ...
[14:24] <oupateddie> Have tried chromium as well as chrome
[14:24] <jdoles> OerHeks: at some point you need to draw the line.
[14:24] <oupateddie> I also find that websites with streaming vidoe now also crashes
[14:25] <jdoles> oupateddie: does Youtube work?
[14:25] <oupateddie> Yes youtube works
[14:25] <jdoles> oupateddie: and how much memory do you have in your machine?
[14:25] <oupateddie> 1.2 Gb
[14:25] <jdoles> oupateddie: ok, that explains a lot.
[14:25] <oupateddie> why?
[14:25] <jdoles> oupateddie: everyone assumes that people have more these days.
[14:26] <oupateddie> I accept that but why suddenly with ff23... Is it that much heavier on juice?
[14:26] <jdoles> oupateddie: as such, I can imagine that the Flash VM gets assigned a particular amount of memory and uses more than that.
[14:26] <jdoles> oupateddie: at that point it simply crashes.
[14:26] <oupateddie> OK can I change that perhaps
[14:27] <jdoles> oupateddie: do you have swap?
[14:27] <oupateddie> Yep I have swap
[14:27] <oupateddie> 1 gig
[14:27] <jdoles> oupateddie: that's still not a lot.
[14:27] <oupateddie> must I make that bigger
[14:27] <jdoles> oupateddie: that depends on whether it is almost full.
[14:28] <oupateddie> I can check when I run the applic and see if it runs out
[14:28] <oupateddie> at least I have some idea. Can I allocate more mem to Flash VM
[14:30] <jdoles> oupateddie: I don't know how to control that.
[14:30] <jdoles> oupateddie: I don't even know the details of that.
[14:30] <jdoles> oupateddie: but running on swap is always a bad idea.
[14:30] <jdoles> oupateddie: having swap is like a life vest, you shouldn't need it under normal circumstances.
[14:32] <oupateddie> I just checked the swap is HUGE 9 Gb
[14:33] <oupateddie> I don't think its the problem
[14:33] <Dozy> Actually can someone explain to me what SWAP does?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> !swap
[14:34] <oupateddie> I'll pourge flash and then see if I reinstall the flash plugin
[14:34] <oupateddie> thnaks guys
[14:34] <Dozy> so like what RAM does when you have processes executing
[14:38] <dhanya> I got a bug, where there is a spelling mistake in the manpage of sfill https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/secure-delete/saucy-proposed/view/head:/sfill.1. Found out that it is not a translation bug. How do I proceed ?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> dhanya  saucy is unstable, support in #ubuntu+1
[14:45] <dhanya> Thank you  Monkey Dust
[14:58] <Kartagis> ikonia: do you have a guide on what to put in xorg.xonf?
[14:58] <Kartagis> conf*
[14:59] <lars__> exit
[15:00] <auronandace> !xorgconf | Kartagis
[15:01] <Kartagis> thanks auronandace
[15:01] <andygee> i asked earlier, but is there a way for  me to change firefox with the google chrome in the Launcher Bar thingy in 12.04 for all current users and future users?
[15:04] <auronandace> andygee: i don't know how to change the default icons that show on the unity sidebar but you can simply add and remove icons whenever you like
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> andygee  what is your end goal?
[15:08] <andygee> the end goal is to get all my users, and future users to not have "Firefox" launcher, but Google Chrome launcher in the launcher bar.
[15:08] <andygee> auronandace, i have like 80 users
[15:09] <Kartagis> there is no resolution related setting in the new created file
[15:09] <andygee> MonkeyDust, --^ ... "the end goal is too "
[15:10] <andygee> MonkeyDust, i guess the end goal is get all users so they use Chrome with as little interaction as possible....
[15:10] <Fah> https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/3.8/ <-- use the guide for whatever version you're administering
[15:11] <amtron> whaT R U DOING
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> andygraybeal  IIRC, 13.10 or 12.04 will have chromium (not google chrome) as default browser
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> 13.04, even
[15:14] <andygraybeal> well, it appears that firefox is default in 12.04
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> 14.04, d'oh!
[15:14] <OerHeks> just uninstall firefox :-)
[15:14] <andygraybeal> OerHeks, well, we want to keep firefox just in case.
[15:18] <OerHeks> andygraybeal, see this answer http://askubuntu.com/a/143229  >> gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[15:19] <andygraybeal> thank you OerHeks i'll have a look
[15:19] <utusan> it's easy just to get the upstream firefox or google chrome and install
[15:19] <OerHeks> but don't let firefox set itself as default :-)
[15:20] <andygraybeal> hmm... well i have the system already running.. and we decided after the fact that we want google chrome as default.
[15:21] <andygraybeal> OerHeks, i think your suggestion is goign to work PERfectly.... heh eh he he <evil laugh>
[15:21] <Kartagis> hi again. I have the following in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://paste.debian.net/23991/ but I can't make my resolution 1366x768. what am I missing?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  +1
[15:24] <utusan> most web browsers try to jockey itself as default, so you will always get prompted to set as default unless it's already
[15:24] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks.
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> utusan  per user, but andygraybeal wants it for all users automatically
[15:25] <Kartagis> although, that behaviour can be altered with options
[15:26] <GeorgeJ> I have a disk with no filesystems, it doesn't even have a partition table right now. The smart self-test fails quite quickly with a status of "Completed: read failiure" . I read that this is due bad blocks. How can I scan a disk with no FS for bad blocks, and mark them as such?
[15:28] <utusan> MonkeyDust: andygraybeal you can always have firefox and/or chrome in one spot and then create a .mozilla or google link in each user/home
[15:29] <andygraybeal> utusan, i think i got the answer, i don't want to mess with each home folder....
[15:29] <meet> hi. I am not able to share my folders with other ubuntu pcs. I right clicked the folder and chose sharing options. set guest access and read/write permission from that menu. Now this folder is visible on other computers. But the contents cannot be copied or anything. Also, only first level of this shared directory is visible. If i try to access a folder within the shared folder it gives a access denied message. How do I share without using SSH?
[15:30] <Kartagis> meet: install samba
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> GeorgeJ  badblocks is a command, use    man badblocks     to find out more, badblocks -X looks like what you want
[15:30] <meet> Kartagis: have installed it. on both the machines.
[15:30] <netlar_> Does Ubuntu have movie downloads?
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> netlar_  like youtube-dl ?
[15:31] <netlar_> MonkeyDust: No, more like iTunes
[15:32] <netlar_> I want to be able to buy movies to download
[15:32] <Kartagis> meet create the share in smb.conf and set the options, then start/restart
[15:32] <GeorgeJ> MonkeyDust: "badblocks -b 512 -X -n /dev/sdg 306613820 306613800" did not solve the issue. The self-test still fails with  LBA_of_first_error:  306613809
[15:32] <theadmin> netlar_: Google Play movies close enough?
[15:32] <meet> Kartagis: the GUI does not do that?
[15:33] <netlar_> theadmin: Can you play them on linux, or does it need to be played on just android
[15:33] <Kartagis> meet: it should, but since you were unable to...
[15:33] <theadmin> netlar_: I think movies/music work everywhere, apps are Android only
[15:34] <theadmin> netlar_: I haven't actually ever bought, though, but I saw their trailer when they introduced Play Movies, and it mentioned playing on PC
[15:34] <netlar_> theadmin: Just iTunes movies have strict conditions
[15:34] <andygraybeal> i watch hulu :)
[15:34] <andygraybeal> or you tube :)
[15:34] <aleksey> how to fix the problem of fonts to go
[15:34] <Kartagis> I have the following in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://paste.debian.net/23991/ but I can't make my resolution 1366x768. what am I missing?
[15:34] <aleksey> blurred
[15:34] <netlar_> There are just a few titles I want
[15:35] <TheRealBanana> hi there
[15:35] <netlar_> Just want to own the movie on the computer
[15:35] <aleksey> how to remove the configuration of the font
[15:35] <aleksey> help
[15:35] <chrs_> how do i get apt-get to tell me what binaries have been installed for a particular package?
[15:35] <GeorgeJ> MonkeyDust: Or perhaps there's a different channel I could as the question in?
[15:35] <chrs_> i should be able to figure this out but i'm missing someting
[15:35] <theadmin> chrs_: dpkg -L package | grep bin/
[15:35] <jrib> chrs_: dpkg -L PACKAGE | grep bin    is usally close enough
[15:35] <theadmin> jrib: Trailing slash helps :)
[15:36] <jrib> true
[15:36] <Kartagis> netlar_: search it on youtube and get it with youtube-dl, or buy the movie and rip the DVD
[15:36] <jrib> slightly closer that way ;)
[15:36] <aleksey> help fontd delete config
[15:36] <jrib> aleksey: ask a proper question
[15:36] <TheRealBanana> i just installed lubuntu 12 on a dekstop and iwconfig shows no wlan0, wicd says no wireless networks found , here is the pastebin : http://pastebin.com/0ybF5pGB
[15:37] <netlar_> Kartagis: True, I could do that, just don't want the store the CD
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> GeorgeJ  there's a forensics channel, moment
[15:37] <chrs_> theadmin, jrib: thanks
[15:37] <aleksey> how to remove the configuration of the font how to remove the configuration of the font
[15:37] <jrib> TheRealBanana: you should state 12.04 or 12.10, there's no ubuntu 12
[15:37] <aleksey> how to remove the configuration of the font
[15:37] <aleksey> where files are stored font settings
[15:37] <jrib> aleksey: why are you repeating it 3 times instead of giving details?
[15:37] <TheRealBanana> @jrib is it relevant? how can i check?
[15:37] <jrib> !version | TheRealBanana
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> GeorgeJ  try ##forensics or ##digitalforensics
[15:38] <aleksey> 5 years and this problem can not be solved
[15:38] <jrib> aleksey: I still don't know what the problem is
[15:38] <patchie> Does any of you know about any Dropbox alternative, which can be used with a FTP server. And I would want it to be encrypted on the FTP server as well. And it has to work with Windows and Android clientside. Linux serverside.
[15:38] <aleksey> blurred font is difficult to see
[15:38] <TheRealBanana> its lubuntu 12.10
[15:38] <jrib> aleksey: have you changed the font settings?
[15:38] <GeorgeJ> MonkeyDust: Thanks! I'm not really interested in recovering data. I'm just trying to make the HDD pass the smart test and make sure it's usable.
[15:38] <aleksey> default
[15:38] <TheRealBanana> @jrib 12.10
[15:39] <jrib> aleksey: try changing the font settings
[15:39] <GeorgeJ> Are those channels still apropriate?
[15:39] <jrib> TheRealBanana: that was my only suggestion; I can point you to the wireless wiki while you wait
[15:39] <theadmin> patchie: FTP must die -- it's a very insecure protocol. OwnCloud is very close, it works over WebDAV or browser and has clients for all major platforms.
[15:39] <jrib> !wireless | TheRealBanana
[15:39] <aleksey> tried to change did not work
[15:39] <jrib> aleksey: "did not work" is too vague
[15:40] <theadmin> patchie: (any file managers that are WebDAV-capable will work instead of the clients, too)
[15:40] <patchie> theadmin: sftp then..lol
[15:40] <theadmin> patchie: Uh. mount -t sshfs ?
[15:40] <theadmin> patchie: lols...
[15:40] <patchie> theadmin: what protocol does owncloud use?
[15:40] <aleksey> how to remove the default font
[15:40] <theadmin> patchie:As said, webdav
[15:40] <jrib> aleksey: you can change your font to whatever font you want.
[15:41] <theadmin> aleksey: Please stop repeating and start making sense.
[15:41] <patchie> theadmin: ahh..ok..will check it out..thanks
[15:41] <aleksey> all fonts problem )
[15:41] <theadmin> !ru | aleksey
[15:41] <jrib> aleksey: is there a language other than english you would prefer help in?
[15:41] <aleksey> font okay when changing User have
[15:41] <theadmin> aleksey: (assumption based on nickname)
[15:42] <aleksey> ))
[15:43] <Left_Turn> hey i have Sublime Text 2.0.2.tar.bz2 in my /Downloads/ .. what's the command to install it?
[15:43] <aleksey> Linux write in Russian (all teams) so that they can correct the error ..  That's what a .tar.bz2 is, an archive, so...
[15:49] <JacksonIsaac> Have anyone here tried 13.04 on vbox?
[15:49] <theadmin> Left_Turn: Unpack it and see
[15:49] <Kartagis> I have the following in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://paste.debian.net/23991/ but I can't make my resolution 1366x768. what am I missing?
[15:49] <theadmin> JacksonIsaac: Somewhat laggy, but works.
[15:50] <Left_Turn> i dont see .exe or anything similar
[15:50] <Left_Turn> @ theadmin
[15:50] <theadmin> ...lol.
[15:50] <JacksonIsaac> I installed it but the desktop doesn't come up
[15:50] <theadmin> Left_Turn: This isn't Windows...
[15:50] <Left_Turn> :(
[15:50] <JacksonIsaac> I can only run the terminal
[15:50] <JacksonIsaac> theadmin: can you help what may be the issue
[15:51] <theadmin> Left_Turn: I downloaded it. It contains a binary called sublime_text. Double-click it, it just runs.
[15:51] <Dozy> JacksonIsaac:  try and type    startx
[15:52] <JacksonIsaac> what will it do
[15:52] <theadmin> JacksonIsaac: Did you perchance download the server version?
[15:52] <Left_Turn> oh i see.. thanks theadmin :)
[15:52] <JacksonIsaac> no
[15:52] <JacksonIsaac> I tried 13.04 desktop version
[15:52] <JacksonIsaac> and also the gnome DE version
[15:53] <Dozy> JacksonIsaac: windows is a Graphical Operaiting system. Linux is a command line one
[15:53] <Dozy> that means that you will never get a blue screen of Death On linux
[15:53] <Dozy> startx means start xwindow
[15:53] <gordonjcp> Dozy: that makes no sense
[15:53] <JacksonIsaac> I don't use windows :)
[15:54] <Dozy> gordonjcp: whehere did I go wrong in what I was saying?
[15:54] <gordonjcp> Dozy: Linux isn't an OS at all
[15:54] <gordonjcp> it's a kernel
[15:54] <Left_Turn> oh no.. theadmin on windows it had a whole lot of options and themes.. here it's so plain an bare:((
[15:54] <theadmin> Dozy: Linux isn't an operating system, it's a kernel. Ubuntu is an operating system. It comes with a graphical interface. So, you could consider it graphical...
[15:54] <theadmin> Left_Turn: Err... Look at top bar. The menu is there.
[15:54] <JacksonIsaac> is it okay if I upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 through terminal?
[15:54] <theadmin> Left_Turn: Just like in all Ubuntu applications.
[15:54] <Dozy> people don't understand when I use words such as kernel
[15:54] <Left_Turn> oh
[15:54] <Dozy> but ues I do agree
[15:54] <pedro_one> Hi !
[15:54] <Dozy> yes*
[15:55] <Dozy> JacksonIsaac:  did startx work?
[15:55] <Left_Turn> sorry theadmin :(
[15:55] <theadmin> Left_Turn: Nah no problem, migrating from Windows may be difficult (going back to Windows is even more difficult after you get used to Ubuntu though :D)
[15:55] <JacksonIsaac> I removed it
[15:55] <Dozy> ?
[15:55] <JacksonIsaac> I'll try on live cd then
[15:56] <Left_Turn> theadmin: heh im never going back:!
[15:56] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: what are you trying to do?
[15:57] <Left_Turn> i was trying to install sublime text 2 gordonjcp .. ive got it now :)
[15:57] <JacksonIsaac> Dozy: what will startx do ? will it show up the desktop ?
[15:58] <Dozy> yes
[15:58] <icelite> h Left_Turn
[15:58] <icelite> :)
[15:58] <icelite> hi Left_Turn
[15:58] <Dozy> normally when I install a linux os and the gui does not start by default startx does the job for me
[15:58] <JacksonIsaac> oh okay thanks :)
[15:59] <theadmin> Dozy: On Ubuntu, if a GUI doesn't start by default something's usually quite messed up.
[15:59] <JacksonIsaac> http://postimg.org/image/e4xoi3g9z/
[16:00] <JacksonIsaac> ^ this is what I get
[16:00] <Dozy> gnome shell issues
[16:00] <JacksonIsaac> but the normal DE also shows a blank screen
[16:01] <JacksonIsaac> I can onyl see terminal
[16:01] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: there's a Linux package, for both 32- and 64-bit
[16:01] <planete> hi
[16:01] <Dozy> hemm...
[16:02] <theadmin> JacksonIsaac: This is Virtualbox, right?
[16:02] <theadmin> JacksonIsaac: Try to enable 3D acceleration.
[16:02] <Left_Turn> yes gordonjcp it opens on my ubuntu... but is there a way to open it via the terminal from any directory without having to give the pathname?
[16:02] <Left_Turn> like how i can use gedit?
[16:03] <JacksonIsaac> enabled
[16:03] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: where does it install to?
[16:03] <theadmin> Left_Turn: You can put a link to the binary to ~/bin
[16:03] <Left_Turn> oh
[16:03] <theadmin> gordonjcp: It's not an installer package, it's portable
[16:03] <kostkon> Left_Turn: you need to downloas the deb package they offer for sublime 3
[16:03] <theadmin> Oh, they have a .deb? Cool.
[16:03] <kostkon> Left_Turn: then double click on it to install it
[16:03] <Left_Turn> they said sublime 3 wasnt completed
[16:04] <Left_Turn> oh i see
[16:05] <Left_Turn> kostkon: this page? http://www.sublimetext.com/3
[16:05] <kostkon> y
[16:05] <Left_Turn> ok thanks
[16:08] <joed_> is there package for get compile kde application in basic ubunt?
[16:09] <Left_Turn> works great kostkon .. thanks guys!
[16:09] <kostkon> Left_Turn: :-)
[16:09] <ikonia> joed_: just install the kubuntu-desktop if you want kde on ubuntu
[16:10] <ikonia> joed_: as in the kubuntu-desktop package will install kde/kde applications onto the ubuntu platform
[16:11] <joed_> I would like test one small kde application in Ubuntu
[16:11] <joed_> installing kde-desktop is too bog for that
[16:12] <ikonia> joed_: then install the kde package for the desktop and libraries, rather then the kubuntu full instlal
[16:12] <ikonia> !info kde-desktop
[16:12] <ikonia> !info kde
[16:12] <ikonia> darn it, hang on
[16:13] <ikonia> joed_: kubuntu-low-fat-settings should install basically a kde desktop that's trimmed down
[16:14] <joed_> ok i'ill check it
[16:16] <xkernel> how to reset all icons to default?
[16:19] <theadmin> xkernel: unity --reset-icons if I understand you correctly.
[16:19] <xkernel> theadmin, no, I changed the home pictures, videos etc.. icons and they are not looking correctly now
[16:20] <theadmin> xkernel: Oh, that... Dunno then. It's probably stored somewhere under ~/.gnome though.
[16:25] <Steevca> I have Windows 8.1 preview installed,and i installed Ubuntu 13.04 in a virtual box,but i have some problems with htc drivers for my phone,so is there a way to use the different drivers in the virtaul ubuntu then those in windows ?
[16:25] <anonee> hello ubuntu! can anyone please tell me how to fix the power indicator on the GNOME panel it's not working when on login screen
[16:26] <anonee> when I try to restart or shutdown the computer before loging in, it just won't work.
[16:26] <anonee> is my question clear?
[16:27] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi steevca
[16:27] <Steevca> MonkWitDaFunk: Hello.
[16:27] <MonkWitDaFunk> You can get your operating system to search for the drivers it needs
[16:28] <Steevca> Actually i can't,it won't install any drivers i give him.
[16:28] <Greylocks> joed: you can just d/load it from the software repository then.
[16:28] <Steevca> Or any drivers using windows update,but this only happens when i plug my phone in fastboot.
[16:29] <MonkWitDaFunk> There are third party drivers as well
[16:30] <yeats> Steevca: this might be a better question for #vbox
[16:30] <Steevca> Ok,thanks.
[16:30] <ethan> hello everyone
[16:30] <anonee> hello ethan
[16:31] <Steevca> ethan: Hi.
[16:31] <ethan> I've been using Mint for a little less than a year now and I switched over to Debian recently because I wanted something a little more stable and it's been great and everything except for one problem...I notice that Audacity crashes a lot.  Maybe even more so on Debian than on Mint.  Can anybody explain the reason for this?  Is it just a Linux thing?
[16:32] <anonee> again, when I try to restart or shutdown the computer before loging in, it does nothing. any way to fix this?
[16:32] <theadmin> ethan: ...Neither Debian nor Mint are supported here.
[16:32] <anonee> ethan I have the same problem with Audacity, it's Audacity itself.
[16:32] <ethan> i realize that but Debian wasn't answering
[16:32] <ethan> i'll try mint
[16:34] <anonee> theadmin would you please take a look at this: when I try to restart or shutdown the computer before loging in, it does nothing. any way to fix this?
[16:34] <theadmin> anonee: Why me? I don't know
[16:34] <anonee> because you're theadmin :)
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> ethan  if you're alot into music, try ubuntustudio
[16:35] <ethan> thanks monkey
[16:36] <anonee> OK thank you I guess
[16:36] <sarkis> hey guys, i am trying to create a bootable ubuntu install usb, i followed the directions using the dd command however, i always end up with a usb stick that is not readable and when examining in disk utility on mac only see a 2.3 mb partition on it
[16:36] <sarkis> anyone experience this issue trying to get a bootable usb on mac?
[16:37] <TannedVampire> i never tried a bootable ubuntu install usb but I'm curious about it.
[16:37] <henk_> hello
[16:37] <henk_> anybody can help me
[16:38] <zykotick9> henk_: ask your question and see.
[16:38] <k1l> !details | HeN
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> henk_  start with a question
[16:38] <k1l> *henk
[16:39] <irssi-mike> henk_: 911 what's your emergency
[16:39] <henk_> I want run root on my pc
[16:39] <henk_> but I cant have only user
[16:39] <irssi-mike> henk okay did you try sudo passwd
[16:39] <henk_> wy
[16:39] <k1l> !root | henk_
[16:40] <k1l> irssi-mike: stop that
[16:40] <auronandace> !noroot | henk_
[16:40] <henk_> I have password
[16:40] <henk_> but how I log in like a root
[16:40] <k1l> henk_: you dont need to be root or log into root. use sudo (see the bots messages)
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> henk_  you don't and shouldnt
[16:40] <k1l> irssi-mike: please stick to the ubuntu-way in here
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> henk_  it's not safe, better use sudo
[16:41] <henk_> sudo root ?
[16:41] <k1l> henk_: nooo
[16:41] <k1l> henk_: read the bots messages. they have links with more explanations
[16:43] <henk_> what bots dude
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> !noroot > henk_
[16:43] <henk_> ok
[16:43] <irssi-mike> henk_: the nickname is automated script for this particular support group
[16:43] <irssi-mike> henk_: the nickname ubottu, sorry
[16:44] <semitones> 'Ello! I'd like to learn about directory performance. I have a hella huge folder with music in it. Any tips for keeping the computer from slowing down?
[16:44] <semitones> brb
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> semitones  put the music on an external usb drive or so, or on its own partition (it's what I have)
[16:47] <semitones> back
[16:47] <KeyboardNotFound> How to su user which don't have password /
[16:47] <k1l> if he comes back you could advise him to sort the music into artitst-folders. so its not one folder with that much single files which takes more time to load
[16:47] <k1l> !root | KeyboardNotFound
[16:48] <semitones> k1l, thanks! What about a folder with hundreds of artist folders?
[16:48] <semitones> I think that is kind of slow too
[16:48] <rypervenche> semitones: It might slow down if you have a very large amount of inodes, but that can't really be helped.
[16:49] <rypervenche> semitones: Can you pastebin your output of "df -i" ?
[16:49] <semitones> sure
[16:50] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970502/ rypervenche
[16:50] <semitones> it's the last one
[16:50] <KeyboardNotFound> k1l, i need to su user which is no root and don't have password how to do it ?
[16:51] <irssi-mike> k1l: i think he means he wants to add a user to sudoers
[16:51] <semitones> rypervenche, I made it with an inode size of 128 so it would be windows compatible
[16:51] <rypervenche> semitones: Can you also run "df -hT" please?
[16:52] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970510/
[16:52] <semitones> rypervenche, right now my music is on an external hdd, but it's new home will be sda8
[16:52] <semitones> s/it's/its/
[16:53] <TannedVampire> Okay I'm using xchat and sometimes I see #ubuntu turn red.  What does it mean?
[16:53] <rypervenche> semitones: Making the drive ext4 will make it a bit faster, but you shouldn't have any problems.
[16:54] <Guest42793> !ot
[16:55] <semitones> rypervenche, it actually used to be ext4, but I just repartitioned so I could also access music from windows
[16:56] <rypervenche> semitones: Oh. So long as that works for you then. I might use NTFS unless you're sure it'll work for you 100% with ext3.
[16:57] <semitones> i think it should, rypervenche. I'm actually not sure if it's ext2 or ext3, because I made it as "ext2 with journaling," which is ext3, correct?
[16:57] <rypervenche> semitones: Pretty much, yep. How did you create it?
[16:58] <semitones> rypervenche, sudo mkfs.ext2 -j -I 128 /dev/sda8
[16:58] <rypervenche> semitones: Yeah, just verify that it works on both OSes before moving your files over.
[16:59] <IdleOne> semitones: I would go with NTFS if you plan on using for storage, but ext2 will work also for accessing with windows.
[16:59] <semitones> rypervenche, yup, works great :)
[16:59] <rypervenche> semitones: You should be good then.
[16:59] <semitones> IdleOne, interesting, why's that? I've heard that ntfs is good to avoid
[17:00] <rypervenche> semitones: Windows is good to avoid, but if you have to use it then often times you'll want something like NTFS for sharing files between OSes.
[17:00] <IdleOne> semitones: because I know the linux has no problems with writting to ntfs. I just like to make things easier for windows when I need to.
[17:01] <IdleOne> semitones: doesn't matter though because windows is able to write to ext2-3 without problems.
[17:02] <ikonia> IdleOne: I wouldn't say that
[17:03] <ikonia> it's not exactly a good "stable" solution, the ext2 driver in windows
[17:03] <ikonia> and it can have problems with ext3 and 4
[17:05] <IdleOne> ikonia: I agree it isn't the best solution, which is why when I need to access from windows I prefer to use NTFS for staorage partitions
[17:05] <IdleOne> storage*
[17:05] <Guest42793> i just read that Google owns a company called Zeitgeist, is this the same Zeitgeist that is installed in all Ubuntu OSes???
[17:05] <holstein> Guest42793: i would continue your research, and try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:06] <holstein> !info zeitgeist
[17:06] <holstein> Guest42793: ^^ that "fact" is that zeitgeits is a "component".. not a company
[17:25] <funky1> hi there could someone help me out
[17:25] <uhelp> Hellllo everybody.  How do you mount a usb drive from the command line in Ubuntu 12.04.2?
[17:25] <funky1> trying to get a dvr card to work
[17:25] <uhelp> mount /dev/? /mount/point doesn't work because I don't know the device file name
[17:26] <funky1> uhelp: check dmesg
[17:26] <theadmin> uhelp: Then find it out using fdisk or parted
[17:26] <funky1> u will see the device
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  sudo blkid
[17:26] <uhelp> funky1: where do I paste my dmesg so that you can also conclude it is useless or tell me where I am wrong
[17:26] <Mace268> try /usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/<partition>
[17:26] <funky1> connect ur usb device and right after type dmesg
[17:27] <funky1> it will say /dev/sdX connected
[17:27] <funky1> that will be ur USB disk
[17:27] <funky1> u can past on e.g. pastebing but u should be able to figure it out
[17:27] <JonNRb> uhelp: "cd /dev/disks/by-label" if you labeled the partition on the disk
[17:27] <funky1> *pastebin*
[17:27] <DJones> !paste | uhelp
[17:28] <uhelp> working on getting you the dmesg now
[17:28] <funky1> k
[17:30] <uhelp> pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970626/
[17:30] <JonNRb> uhelp: go look in /dev/disk/by-id. it will list the name of your usb disk in there
[17:30] <funky1> uhelp: ur device is sdb
[17:30] <ffio_> is ubiquity coded in python ?
[17:30] <funky1> so probabky sdb1
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  or use sudo blkid
[17:31] <funky1> so try sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/user/blalal
[17:31] <funky1> or check with fdisk the partitions on the device
[17:32] <mayank> help needed
[17:32] <JonNRb> uhelp: you don't need to do anything as superuser to mount a usb disk
[17:32] <mayank> plz help
[17:32] <JonNRb> uhelp: run "/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb1"
[17:32] <mayank> plz help
[17:32] <uhelp> JonNRb, so I can run programs from a USB even if I don't mount as root?
[17:32] <mayank> help needed
[17:33] <mayank> help needed
[17:33] <DJones> mayank: How can anybody help, you haven't said what the problem is
[17:33] <JonNRb> uhelp: of course, your desktop can mount disks even if you aren't logged in as root
[17:33] <uhelp>  /usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb1 Cannot stat device file /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory
[17:33] <funky1> well it is using root to mount anyways
[17:33] <JonNRb> uhelp: hmm
[17:33] <JonNRb> uhelp: "cd /dev/disk/by-id"
[17:34] <Mace268> did you say it was an optical drive?
[17:34] <mayank> i am sorry  i was using ubuntu 12.04 from yesterday.. from today wireless in not working
[17:34] <uhelp> JonNRbL I did this but I don't see any useful id
[17:34] <funky1> uhelp: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[17:34] <uhelp> I can paste them all for you
[17:34] <funky1> then press 'p'
[17:34] <funky1> and copy paste output
[17:34] <JonNRb> uhelp: do you see something with a "usb-" prefix
[17:34] <uhelp> fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdb: No such file or directory  <-- I think that sdb is OLD and currently there isn't such a device
[17:34] <mayank>   i was using ubuntu 12.04 from yesterday.. from today wireless in not working
[17:35] <funky1> uhelp: r u sure ur usb disk is working properly?
[17:35] <uhelp> however I KNOW the usb drive was in because I was able to use it from a virtual machine (since disconnected from said virtual machine)
[17:35] <bazhang> !wifi | mayank have a read
[17:35] <uhelp> funky1: I know it worked properly within the last 15 minutes or so and I have not plugged and unplugged it
[17:35] <JonNRb> uhelp: mounting things by /dev/sd* is not guaranteed to mount you correctly. you should always look for things in /dev/disk if you want a guaranteed block-device
[17:36] <funky1> uhelp: how big is that drive?
[17:36] <uhelp> funky1: slightly less than 8 GiB
[17:36] <uhelp> possibly 8 GB
[17:36] <funky1> ok that is no problem
[17:37] <funky1> but ur dmesg clearly states ur usb disk is /dev/sdb
[17:37] <funky1> but your fdisk response is weird
[17:37] <funky1> should not give u an error, u have done as sudo?
[17:37] <uhelp> JonNRb: prefix options are scsi, ata, wwn
[17:38] <uhelp> funky1: it clearly was /dev/sdb but now it clearly isn't and I don't know how to get it back without possibly plugging and unplugging it WHICH ONLY WORKS WHEN I AM IN OFFICE
[17:38] <uhelp> funky1: I need to be able to do this without physically touching anything
[17:38] <JonNRb> uhelp: have you done as funky1 suggested and done "sudo fdisk -l"?
[17:38] <JonNRb> uhelp: you could also run a "sudo parted /dev/sdb print"
[17:39] <uhelp> sudo fdisk -l only shows three parts which are all on samsung 840 internal ssd
[17:39] <zykotick9> JonNRb: fyi, "sudo parted -l" also works
[17:39] <uhelp> sudo parted /dev/sdb print Error: Could not stat device /dev/sdb - No such file or directory.
[17:39] <JonNRb> uhelp: and you can't physically take out and reinsert the drive, am i correct?
[17:39] <funky1> uhelp i think there might be something broken with ur usb stick
[17:40] <JimJones> is there anyway to securely uninstall ubuntu from my harddrive?
[17:40] <JimJones> i got dual-boot with windows
[17:40] <uhelp> JonNRb: I can right now and that will probably work just fine but I MUST be able to do this remotely or the thing is garbage since I use the system remotely most often
[17:40] <funky1> what is dmesg showing now? should show some errors i guess
[17:40] <ikonia> JimJones: delete the ubuntu partitions, replace the windows boot loader, job done
[17:40] <mjayk> JimJones: did you install via wubi or via a normal partition?
[17:41] <JonNRb> uhelp: we definitely need to see a dmesg...
[17:41] <uhelp> the only error-maybe I see is usb 3-2: reset high-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd
[17:41] <uhelp> I will pastebin it again with the updates since we started typing things
[17:41] <JimJones> mjayk, normal install
[17:41] <JimJones> ikonia, how? would be nice to do this via windows tho
[17:42] <uhelp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970667/
[17:42] <ikonia> JimJones: the guys in ##windows will explain how to manage partitions and replace the windows boot loader
[17:42] <Mace268> uhelp, this might help: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7412/how-to-reconnect-a-logically-disconnected-usb-device
[17:42] <mjayk> so as ikonia said just format the partion and sort the mbr out
[17:42] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions
[17:42] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:42] <JuJuBee> I returned from vacation and my computer won't boot, grub error 15.  Any help?
[17:43] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:43] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:43] <uhelp> Mace268: You might be on to something!  I want to try this before saying YES but I think it might work.
[17:43] <ikonia> JuJuBee: error 15 is normally it can't find the files it wants, so either a.) you've changed your disks so the device ID has changed b.) you've lost data from where it's looking
[17:44] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:44] <mayank4> plz help
[17:44] <bazhang> mayank4, dont repeat every five seconds
[17:44] <mayank4> sry
[17:44] <JuJuBee> ikonia: Im gussing option b.  I downloaded super grub disk 2 but have never used it.  I cannot seem to boot from my USB stick
[17:45] <piol> hello guys
[17:45] <piol> im new  to linux
[17:45] <ikonia> JuJuBee: why are you using super grub disk ?
[17:45] <funky1> uhelp: hm tricky one, could be a bug or trouble with the hardware not being properly supported, i assume you are not using a usb hub or something in between and have tried different usb ports
[17:45] <ikonia> JuJuBee: you want to use an ubuntu CD so it uses the same grub versions as ubuntu expects/wants
[17:45] <uhelp> how do I know which lsusb -t device is the one i want to "power-cycle"?
[17:45] <JonNRb> uhelp: do an "ls /dev/disk/by-id" before and after you insert the disk
[17:45] <piol> guys is there a specefic channel for lubuntu users??
[17:45] <ikonia> piol: #lubuntu ?
[17:45] <JuJuBee> ikonia: my usb stick won't boot for some reason.  Think my bios wont use it
[17:45] <uhelp> funky1: I hvae a Lenovo W530 with the USB plugged in directly (tried two ports)
[17:45] <meshuggah> !seen sebsebseb
[17:46] <ikonia> JuJuBee: so burn it to a CD
[17:46] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I need a dvd (over 700mb)
[17:46] <ikonia> JuJuBee: then get one
[17:46] <funky1> uhelp: has this stick worked properly before with ubuntu or other linux distros?
[17:47] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:47] <bazhang> !halpme | mayank4
[17:47] <JuJuBee> ikonia: assuming I can find one (we just moved into a new house)  What next?  I think it was using grub 1.5
[17:48] <ikonia> JuJuBee: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:48] <uhelp> the answer to how to tell which it is with lsusb -t is to look in dmesg from when you first connected it (if the mesg isn't gone yet) it will tell you the location it was inserted
[17:48] <JonNRb> uhelp: i have the W520 and sometimes USB2 devices don't work in the USB3 ports for some reason. did you try plugging it into the port on the back or the one in the eSATA port?
[17:48] <uhelp> JonNRb: I haven't tried the port in the back ... only the two side ports.
[17:48] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I think I was at 11.10, but not 100% certain
[17:49] <JuJuBee> Can I install grub2?
[17:49] <ikonia> JuJuBee: ok, so I would boot with "any" media to confirm the version, and if your data is still there, then go forward from there
[17:49] <uhelp> funky1: it works properly with other distros if I connect it through vmware but I haven't tried it in another physical machine
[17:50] <uhelp> funky1: I am going to try to the http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7412/how-to-reconnect-a-logically-disconnected-usb-device instructions now
[17:50] <funky1> uhelp: r u currently running vmware? maybe it is being claimed
[17:50] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:50] <piol> wow you guys have a larger community than mint i guess
[17:50] <holstein> !mint
[17:50] <funky1> ah yeah that could maybe help
[17:50] <theadmin> piol: Ubuntu's older than Mint, so no big surprise.
[17:50] <holstein> piol: mint is based on ubuntu, which would make it "older".. that could be a reason why it would be "larger" as well
[17:51] <uhelp> no dice: echo suspend > /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-2/power/level  bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
[17:51] <piol> the only reason im not installing ubuntu is beacuse of its unity interface
[17:51] <holstein> !nounity
[17:51] <piol> other wise its my choice
[17:51] <theadmin> piol: Use Xubuntu, it has a GNOME2-style interface known as Xfce.
[17:51] <uhelp> funky1: vmware doesn't claim it is being claimed .... I checked this first thing
[17:51] <holstein> piol: many other desktop environments are available, such as LXDE, that i use
[17:52] <theadmin> piol: And is supported by the Ubuntu community.
[17:52] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:52] <piol> im using lxde
[17:52] <theadmin> piol: Then use Lubuntu ;)
[17:52] <ikonia> he's on a lubuntu livecd, I think he's on top of it
[17:52] <piol> lubuntu it seems
[17:52] <Mace268> uhelp use sudo on that command
[17:52] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:52] <holstein> piol: then, you are using ubuntu..
[17:52] <piol> i am using it
[17:52] <GEEGEEGEE> Is there anything like Microsoft Word on Ubuntu? Ive found open/libre office to be quite buggy and just awful
[17:52] <piol> lol its true
[17:52] <uhelp> Mace268 was running as root
[17:52] <bazhang> !repeat | mayank4
[17:52] <Mace268> ah ok
[17:52] <theadmin> GEEGEEGEE: That's the closest you can get honestly, sadly office suites are problematic :/ Especially when it comes to Microsoft document support.
[17:53] <JonNRb> GEEGEEGEE: you can always run Word in Wine
[17:53] <uhelp> I think the instructions are correctish
[17:53] <uhelp> we need to know what command to send to power it down
[17:53] <uhelp> then the command to power it up
[17:53] <GEEGEEGEE> Even when saving in the format they are supposed to support the formatting gets screwed up theadmin
[17:53] <uhelp> maybe it needs to go to some file other than level or the command isn't suspend
[17:53] <theadmin> GEEGEEGEE: LibreOffice supports OpenDocument completely, so I don't know what your problem is then..
[17:54] <kostkon> GEEGEEGEE, check Kingsoft WPS office. it's a ms office clone
[17:54] <uhelp> GEEGEEGEE: it isn't close to word as you probably like but you can try abiword
[17:54] <kostkon> GEEGEEGEE, http://www.wps-community.org/
[17:55] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[17:55] <piol> mayank4 not even eth0?
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | mayank4
[17:56] <mayank4> ubotti: i tried that
[17:56] <mayank4> but in vain
[17:57] <uhelp> cat  /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-2/manufacturer might allow you to tell the device even if dmesg from when it is plugged in is gone
[17:57] <uhelp> however I still cannot find the right thing to type to power down the device
[17:58] <uhelp> I tried 0ff 0 suspend and some others
[17:58] <holstein> uhelp: what device? "sudo halt".. or "sudo shutdown -h now" should work on ubuntu
[17:58] <JuJuBee> ikonia: can I install grub 2 if grub 2 is not already installed?
[17:59] <reisio> that's how most people install grub 2 :)
[17:59] <reisio> and by most I mean all, of course, heh
[17:59] <ikonia> JuJuBee: it's not something I'd recommend you do on an 11.10 machine
[18:00] <ikonia> JuJuBee: as I said, check what version of ubuntu you are using, check the data is there, then it's easy to work out what to do
[18:00] <piol> JuJuBee : uname -a  or uname -r
[18:00] <piol> :D
[18:00] <ikonia> piol: he can't boot his machine
[18:00] <piol> :(
[18:01] <Mace268> uhelp try http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1163824/linux-usb-turning-the-power-on-and-off
[18:03] <uhelp> Mace268: suspend is no longer supported (see https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=95659)
[18:03] <uhelp> however level is deprecated so even the new instructions are old
[18:04] <uhelp> they want you to use control now but I have yet to figure out what to type
[18:06] <uhelp> holstein: I need to power down a usb port and then power it back up
[18:06] <uhelp> holstein: all I am trying to do is mount the USB drive but apparently that is a hard thing to do after the USB device is disconnected from a virtual machine
[18:06] <Mace268> uhelp there are other ideas besides sending suspend on that page, like sending commands to /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/unbind and /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/bind
[18:06] <reisio> uhelp: impossible, I'd say, needs to be connected
[18:07] <uhelp> Mace268: I wanted to try those but thought if I could figure out the first option faster -- maybe not and I should switch off of learning how to use "control"
[18:08] <uhelp> reisio: I don't understand -- what do you think needs to be connected?  The USB drive is physically in the slot and vmware can connect it to a virtual machine so I expect to be able to connect it to the host.
[18:09] <uhelp> reisio: worst case I could connect it to a host and share it as a networked drive but that is ... crazy
[18:09] <redditanalytics> hello, I am getting an error when install php5-fpm
[18:09] <reisio> you just said it was disconnected :p
[18:10] <jrib> redditanalytics: you should pastebin the error
[18:10] <uhelp> reisio: it is disconnected logically -- but physically it is there
[18:10] <reisio> ah :)
[18:10] <redditanalytics> here is the error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970769/
[18:11] <jrib> redditanalytics: apt-cache policy php5-fpm php5-common
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> redditanalytics  did you    sudo apt-get update     first?
[18:12] <redditanalytics> MonkeyDust -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970776/
[18:12] <redditanalytics> yes I did apt-get update
[18:12] <redditanalytics> I added the universe repos
[18:12] <redditanalytics> then did the update
[18:13] <Ampelbein> redditanalytics: You didn't add the precise-updates universe repo
[18:13] <redditanalytics> what is the easiest way to do that
[18:14] <Ampelbein> redditanalytics: How did you activate the universe repo in the first place?
[18:14] <redditanalytics> I used this -- sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) main universe restricted multiverse"
[18:14] <yiyo> it is true that the ubuntu kernel contains some propietary software?
[18:15] <theadmin> yiyo: Uh, no. That doesn't even make sense.
[18:15] <mayank4> but in vain
[18:16] <Ampelbein> yiyo: It contains a few binary blobs, I think.
[18:16] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[18:16] <theadmin> Ampelbein: I am *quite* sure all proprietary drivers need to be installed from the repos and are modules.
[18:16] <redditanalytics> is the reason why the candidate versions mismatch is because I didn't add the precise-updates universe repo?
[18:16] <Ampelbein> redditanalytics: yes
[18:16] <yiyo> so I think i'll move to another distro that really cares for my freedoom
[18:16] <redditanalytics> so I should just add that to my sources.list file then?
[18:17] <theadmin> yiyo: Use gNewSense, Stallman-approved :P
[18:17] <yiyo> I think i'll install trisquel
[18:18] <Ampelbein> theadmin: /lib/firmware/2.6.22-14-generic/ql2300_fw.bin is contained in linux-image-3.5.0-18-generic for example.
[18:18] <Ampelbein> theadmin: linux-image-3.5.0-18-generic: /lib/firmware/3.5.0-18-generic/qlogic/1040.bin
[18:18] <theadmin> Ampelbein: But that's a readily-built image. I suppose the source for that is available, no?
[18:19] <Ampelbein> theadmin: Let me check, at least in Debian it's in non-free.
[18:19] <theadmin> yiyo: Trisquel is Ubuntu based, you're not making much sense here :D Anyway, that's not supported here. Only Ubuntu is.
[18:19] <theadmin> Ampelbein: Ah, hm... okay. Oh well, user experience is placed above the strange concept of "freedom" in Ubuntu anyways.
[18:20] <redditanalytics> thank you Ampelbein -- that worked
[18:20] <Ampelbein> theadmin: That doesn't change the fact that the Ubuntu kernel contains proprietary software though.
[18:20] <redditanalytics> appreciate your time
[18:20] <theadmin> Ampelbein: Guess so :D
[18:20] <theadmin> Ampelbein: Ubuntu has a FOSS install mode though. No idea what that does.
[18:21] <theadmin> Ampelbein: When you boot the live image, hold Shift, choose Modes => Free Software Only.
[18:21] <Ampelbein> theadmin: I know.
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> Ampelbein  true, and that's why ubuntu is so popular
[18:21] <theadmin> Ampelbein: That at least excludes non-FOSS repositories, but I dunno about those binary blobs
[18:21] <yiyo> trisquel is aproved to be 100% free https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
[18:22] <theadmin> yiyo: Well, install whatever you want, but don't ask for support here later. Have fun.
[18:22] <uhelp> Mace268 and resio: what do you think? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970807/
[18:23] <anonee> hello, is there a way to use grep instead of pidof in this script:
[18:23] <anonee> /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[18:23] <anonee> I used to use this command to achieve the same
[18:23] <anonee> ps -ef | grep program-name | grep -v grep | awk {'print $2'}
[18:23] <uhelp> JonNRb: when you found out about ports not supporting USB 2 properly what was the reason?  Is there a firmware upgrade for the W520/W530 that might solve it (even though I don't think it is my current issue)?
[18:23] <anonee> but I'm not sure how to edit this line to make it replace
[18:23] <anonee> if pidof x $PMS > /dev/null ||
[18:23] <FloodBot1> anonee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:23] <jrib> anonee: what exactly do you want to accomplish?
[18:23] <yiyo> yes i won't search for support from a community that does not care for my freedoom!!!
[18:24] <Ampelbein> yiyo: That's fine.
[18:24] <reisio> good to know
[18:24] <jrib> yiyo: that's great; this channel is for support though.  If you want to share your distro choices and reasons, please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:25] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[18:25] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[18:25] <mayank4> sir when using iwconfig, it is showing no wireless extensions.... plz guide
[18:25] <FloodBot1> mayank4: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <anonee> jrib shutdown button is not working when in login screen, so I'm trying to fix the script, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1669946&highlight=login+shutdown+%20power+button suggested that I add the line /sbin/shutdown -h now before the mentioned above, but I think there should be a better way
[18:26] <zetheroo> I thought swap was only used when RAM was maxed out ... why if over 400MB swap being used when only half of my 4GB of RAM is used?
[18:27] <reisio> zetheroo: that isn't exactly the case :)
[18:27] <bonhoeffer> how do i see my locale?
[18:27] <reisio> bonhoeffer: run 'locale'
[18:27] <uhelp> zetheroo: swap allows for more cache to be available when there is data in ram not normally used
[18:27] <reisio> zetheroo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness
[18:27] <bonhoeffer> reisio: thanks!
[18:27] <theadmin> zetheroo: Linux doesn't waste available resources, it uses them for maximal performance. That's the general reason. To be specific, see the stuff described at http://linuxatemyram.com -- this applies to swap too
[18:27] <zetheroo> I see
[18:27] <uhelp> zetheroo: so even if you have 1TiB of ram non-used portion of memory can be swapped out to make way for more cache thus increasing speed
[18:28] <JuJuBee> ikonia: OK, burned 13.04 and booted.  My data seems fine and the partiitions are fine as well.
[18:28] <jrib> anonee: interesting.  Have you determined if that line just has a typo?  Should it be "-x" and not "x"?
[18:29] <zetheroo> I just thought that because memory is so much faster than swap on the HDD that the memory should first be used - wouldn't that be "best performance"?
[18:29] <reisio> zetheroo: it is first used
[18:29] <Mace268> can I reclaim swap space and add it to my root partition if I operd for LVM on install?
[18:29] <Mace268> toped*
[18:29] <JuJuBee> How do I find the version of the current install?
[18:29] <jrib> !version | JuJuBee
[18:29] <reisio> Mace268: hrmm?
[18:29] <Mace268> opped* :S
[18:29] <zetheroo> reisio: I mean used the max
[18:29] <theadmin> JuJuBee: Ubuntu version? lsb_release -sc
[18:29] <reisio> Mace268: opped?
[18:29] <reisio> zetheroo: see the link I gave
[18:29] <Mace268> chose :)
[18:29] <zetheroo> will do ;)
[18:29] <reisio> Mace268: yes, also if you didn't chose
[18:30] <JuJuBee> theadmin: Im booted from CD
[18:30] <Mace268> I don't think I'm gonna need 16GB Swap bit I might need the space eventually
[18:30] <Mace268> sorry my typing bites today :S
[18:30] <theadmin> JuJuBee: Ah. Err. Locate the file /etc/os-release on your install partition and read it.
[18:31] <uhelp> Mace268: was the strace helpful for the bind / unbind attempt?
[18:31] <anonee> jrib I'll try that, thank you.
[18:31] <Mace268> not sure what you mean uhelp
[18:31] <JuJuBee> thanks, 12.10
[18:32] <reisio> Mace268: you'll always need more space eventually
[18:32] <jrib> anonee: I don't think it would cause the script to fail though
[18:32] <reisio> Mace268: and it's going to be more than 16GB that you'll need
[18:32] <reisio> which is a good reason to get more space in the form of additional drives
[18:32] <uhelp> Mace268: I tried bind and unbind without any error (or positive results that I can see) http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970807/
[18:33] <Mace268> reisio, Yes true, but is there a good read on working with LVM so I can at least get some of that back?
[18:34] <reisio> Mace268: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm#Resizing_Partitions-1
[18:34] <Mace268> uhelp, I don't know anything about it TBH, I was just helping you google :)
[18:34] <Mace268> thanks reisio
[18:34] <anonee> jrib in fact I think it's because pidof itself doesn't return anything when the program is run by another user id, I've got the same problem when trying to know the pidof deluged (deluge daemon), so for now Im gonna add this - and try logging out and shutting down, and see, I'll give you feedback
[18:35] <uhelp> Mace268: thank you for helping me google -- I really don't think this should be as hard as it is but apparently I am SOL for the time being
[18:35] <jrib> anonee: that script should be executed as root though, isn't it?
[18:35] <juju32> how can i get a text list of all applications (not packages) installed? i am having difficulty copying the one in the software center.
[18:35] <jrib> juju32: why do you want this?
[18:35] <anonee> yes, jrib, pidof isn't working when I use sudo, this is the point
[18:35] <jrib> anonee: what are you running exactly?
[18:35] <uhelp> juju32A: you can use find to search for executable files
[18:37] <uhelp> anonee: I didn't read the rest of what you typed but is pidof in the super user's path?
[18:37] <anonee> ubuntu 12.04.2  32 bit, GNOME 3.4 in fallback mode, everything works fine when I'm in any of the unity shell, GNOME shell, or the GNOME fallback mode (GNOME Classic) as ubuntu calls it.
[18:37] <JuJuBee> ikonia: I have the info now, was using 12.10 not 11.10
[18:38] <juju32> jrib: long story short, i need to print that information.
[18:38] <jrib> juju32: since you won't answer that question, how do you define "application"?
[18:38] <JuJuBee> ikonia: Thinking it is just time to upgrade to 13.04.  That should take care of it, right?
[18:38] <anonee> jrib ubuntu 12.04.2  32 bit, GNOME 3.4 in fallback mode, everything works fine when I'm in any of the unity shell, GNOME shell, or the GNOME fallback mode (GNOME Classic) as ubuntu calls it.
[18:38] <uhelp> juju32: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4458120/unix-find-search-for-executable-files
[18:38] <anonee> uhelp could u please remind me how to check that?
[18:39] <juju32> uhelp: ok thank you, will try that.
[18:39] <uhelp> anonee: echo $PATH
[18:41] <juju32> jrib: sorry dont mean to not be polite but it's really a long boring story and i dont see how it is important. you know when in the software center you can view all installed software? that's what i need. but in text in libreoffice.
[18:41] <jrib> juju32: pretty sure that's just a package list.  I'm asking you questions because what you've asked for is vague
[18:41] <reisio> juju32: most applications are made up of more than one executable
[18:42] <Goatman> How do I tell if I’m running the Radeon driver or just the VESA drivers?
[18:42] <reisio> juju32: what you could do is for i in $(dpkg -l); do dpkg -L "$i" | grep -i bin | grep -i "$i"; done
[18:42] <reisio> juju32: that'd get you close
[18:42] <uhelp> I am going to leave now to go purchase an external ethernet drive since the USB drive is impossible for me to figure out how to mount without physically touching it.  GGGRRRRR
[18:42] <reisio> uhelp: what'd you try so far?
[18:43] <uhelp> reisio: fdisk doesn't show the device so mount won't work so I tried messing around in /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-2/power without luck
[18:43] <uhelp> reisio: then I tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/5970807/
[18:44] <anonee> uhelp /home/<myusername>/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[18:44] <reisio> uhelp: fdisk not showing it doesn't necessarily mean mount won't work
[18:44] <juju32> reisio: thanks
[18:44] <uhelp> anonee is the program in one of those?  if not you need to add it
[18:45] <uhelp> reisio: I was unable to get mount to work -- there is no corresponding device under /dev
[18:45] <reisio> uhelp: is there anything on the disk?
[18:45] <uhelp> reisio: yes
[18:45] <anonee> uhelp I understand that I should add pidof to one of those?
[18:45] <reisio> uhelp: and it's for sure powered and also connected to the computer? (you tried a different port?)
[18:45] <uhelp> anonee: add the directory which has pidof not the path to pidof itself
[18:46] <uhelp> reisio: I can connect it to a virtual machine and it works fine
[18:46] <anonee> uhelp how to?
[18:46] <uhelp> reisio: I can disconnect it from that virtual machine and can't get it connected to the host without unplugging it and plugging it back --- which only works if I am physically there
[18:47] <uhelp> anonee: in ~/.bashrc (of root) add PATH=$PATH:/new/path   (then exit terminal and reenter)
[18:47] <reisio> uhelp: ah
[18:47] <reisio> uhelp: well I'm sure the channel for the VM software you're using could help, then
[18:47] <reisio> uhelp: but, you could also avoid the issue altogether
[18:47] <uhelp> reisio: pm me and I will check your msg when I am back --- now I am leaving for a while (1 hour +-?)
[18:47] <reisio> uhelp: access it via a network/share instead of directly connecting it to the VM
[18:48] <juju32> other question: is there an easy newsletter creator software or something like that?
[18:48] <felon> sillyme1
[18:48] <reisio> juju32: for print?
[18:48] <reisio> juju32: try scribus
[18:48] <reisio> juju32: inkscape could also do, depending on what exactly you mean
[18:48] <juju32> reisio: for email
[18:48] <reisio> oh for email
[18:48] <reisio> juju32: that is a realm of deep voodoo
[18:48] <reisio> I advise you avoid it at all costs, children, family, muffins
[18:49] <Goatman> Hi, I was wondering if anyone here knows the proper way to check for open source Radeon driver functionality?
[18:50] <juju32> reisio: what do you think of this http://www.campaignmonitor.com/ ?
[18:50] <reisio> Goatman: functionality?
[18:50] <Goatman> reisio: Yes, is it being used or does it work
[18:50] <juju32> i mean i would prefer if there was an app i could install. but if not...
[18:51] <reisio> juju32: no idea, presumably they test whether things render appropriately, that's all one can do
[18:51] <bo0t_versus_one> AlexLikeRock toda esa informacion donde se supone que yo la ponga
[18:51] <rhagu> hi, I did this: sudo rsync -an --progress --stats * /datenraid/Filme/Video/   and got: "Number of files: 40 Number of files transferred: 28" does this mean rsync checked, if the missing 12 files are exactly the same as the ones at the source, or did it just check if some files with the same name existed?
[18:51] <reisio> Goatman: glxinfo | grep -i 'direct rendering' is usually telling
[18:51] <reisio> Goatman: and glxgears
[18:51] <Goatman> thank you
[18:52] <juju32> is there an irc channel for newsletter help?
[18:52] <reisio> I doubt it
[18:53] <reisio> #html or #css might be the best there is, but they'll just refer you to resources
[18:53] <juju32> it's more complicated than i thought. i mean there are many things to take into account....
[18:54] <reisio> juju32: it's a total mess
[18:54] <juju32> i think a piece of software to make it easy would be needed....
[18:54] <reisio> could be justified, yes
[18:54] <reisio> I dare say most people interested in simplifying the task decide that email newsletters are the devil and quit :p
[18:55] <reisio> but we digress
[18:55] <syko> If ecryptfs stops working and I can't access my files or something bad happens, how can I recover? or if my linux kernel gets broken, how can I fix? or if I can't boot, how can I fix it?
[18:55] <juju32> :)
[18:55] <reisio> syko: 1) hypothetical 2) fix kernel or boot from live media 3) boot from live media or take hard disk out
[18:56] <reisio> s/hypothetical/not specific enough/
[18:56] <juju32> bye and thanks again
[18:56] <reisio> adios
[18:57] <syko> reisio: hypothetical means what?
[18:57] <reisio> not specific enough
[18:57] <reisio> the answer would require several hours and megabytes
[18:59] <reisio> as long as you have a copy of the data on a device that isn't physically broken, you can get your data
[18:59] <reisio> and in rare cases, if you have lots of money but not enough sense to have had a backup system, even if the device is broken
[19:00] <anonee> uhelp, pidof is in /bin
[19:00] <reisio> because a lot can break in, for example, an ordinary hard disk which has many moving parts
[19:00] <reisio> without actually damaging the platters
[19:00] <reisio> it's just highly involved to fix them :p
[19:00] <syko> i see
[19:00] <syko> so if my ubuntu doesn't boot up
[19:01] <syko> how can I fix?
[19:01] <syko> without losing my data
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> syko  depends on the error messages and such
[19:01] <reisio> the only way you lose data is if you physically break your storage device (and you don't have a backup system, which you should have), or if you explicitly go out of your way to delete it
[19:01] <reisio> just not booting up doesn't necessarily mean anything about your data
[19:02] <syko> Is there any lightweight forensics/recovery distro that can help fix ecryptfs, kernel booting problems, or recover and fix your distro?
[19:02] <reisio> potentially the OS files, yes
[19:02] <reisio> syko: the Ubuntu install media should probably suffice most of the time
[19:02] <reisio> but there are more comprehensive ones
[19:02] <syko> Is there anything I can do from where I can re-install my OS files if something is wrong? without losing my files in /opt/ and /home/zodiac
[19:02] <shadedpixel> syko, System recovery disk, or the debian live media
[19:03] <shadedpixel> syko, Yes i beleive you can just perform an upgrade from the CD, witch would just replace the system files
[19:03] <reisio> syko: you can reinstall OS files from the Ubuntu install media, that is after all its purpose
[19:03] <anonee> jaril I added the - but it didn't work, suggestions?
[19:04] <syko> Ubuntu install media?
[19:04] <reisio> syko: install disk, image, iso, etc.
[19:04] <shadedpixel> syko, The disk you used to install ubuntu
[19:05] <reisio> you can boot it and 'try' the OS as opposed to just running the installer
[19:05] <reisio> and the installer may have some options for recovery as well
[19:05] <syko> I mean, how can I reinstall my OS files without losing my files in /opt/ and /home/ and such.
[19:05] <Guest44800> hey this isn't technically ubuntu related but it's super easy but I just can't figure it out, need help with vimrc/.vimrc/~/.vimrc
[19:05] <jrib> Guest44800: ask your actual question
[19:06] <reisio> syko: the most straightforward way is to have a backup
[19:06] <EricJ> So, anyone feel up to helping me troubleshoot 5.1 audio on an old Nvidia ION? (ALC662) I'm only getting sound on 2 channels.
[19:06] <syko> reisio: I don't exactly understand, can you be more specific?
[19:06] <Guest44800> jrib: trying to just set the vimrc, but not sure it should be a directory or actual ...file?  or if i'm thinking about this the right way
[19:06] <reisio> syko: something you should have regardless
[19:06] <syko> I have a LiveUSB of ubuntu.
[19:06] <anonee>  jrib I added the - but it didn't work, suggestions? jaril sorry wrong nick
[19:06] <jrib> Guest44800: ~/.vimrc is a file
[19:06] <reisio> EricJ: alsamixer, tab around, toggle things
[19:06] <reisio> EricJ: what nvidia ion device do you have that does 5.1 audio, though?
[19:06] <jrib> anonee: you never told me exactly what you are running that is failing
[19:07] <shadedpixel> syko, same idea you can boot from the USB and use that to re-install system files so you can boot
[19:07] <Guest44800> jrib:  in the home   or  '~'  directory?  so i'll be able to see it in my home folder?
[19:07] <lubuntu_> hello
[19:07] <shadedpixel> syko, or whatever your trying to reinstall
[19:07] <jrib> Guest44800: ~ means $HOME which usually means /home/username
[19:07] <EricJ> reisio: the board supposedly got 3 audio devices: over HDMI, some digital/optical stuff, and old-fashioned analog. I'm using analog.
[19:07] <reisio> EricJ: far out
[19:07] <syko> shadedpixel: I can boot from the USB and re-install system files without losing any data in /home/ and /opt/?
[19:08] <reisio> EricJ: well what I already said, look out for 'IEC'
[19:08] <syko> is there a option for that, shadedpixel?
[19:08] <shadedpixel> syko, There should be recovery options on the liveusb/cd
[19:08] <EricJ> reisio: IEC? Care to elaborate?
[19:08] <syko> shadedpixel: like where?
[19:08] <syko> and can I use systemrecoverCD?
[19:08] <Guest44800> jrib:  sooo... suppose I i'm in home in terminal and i 'vim .vimrc'  type nothing and just ':w'  and ':q'  ...does vim no recognize that .vimrc?
[19:08] <reisio> EricJ: it's part of a code name for the optical out
[19:09] <jrib> Guest44800: it does, but an empty .vimrc wouldn't do anything...
[19:09] <anonee> jrib thank you, it's the power icon when in login screen, it's not working and I'm having to login, and then shutdown from inside my session... people are suggesting this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1669946&highlight=login+shutdown+%20power+button and I think that if nobody has a better idea then I'm gonna just use what they suggested.
[19:09] <jrib> I think.  Maybe it changes nocompatible behavior.  can't remember
[19:09] <shadedpixel> syko, Just choose the upgrade option from the installation wizard, this will leave your files untouched but replace system files
[19:09] <EricJ> reisio: Oh, I don't use the optical out. Using the analog out, classic pink/green/blue jacks in the back.
[19:09] <jrib> anonee: you said "pidof" wasn't working when you tried it.  i asked you what exactly you were trying
[19:09] <Guest44800> jrib: right, okay so i'm going to write  ':set nu'  to it and now all my vim files have the numbering lines right?  or does it no work that way?
[19:09] <syko> shadedpixel: thank you so much!
[19:10] <reisio> EricJ: optical'd be better...
[19:10] <syko> I'll try that.
[19:10] <jrib> Guest44800: yes, you can do that.  Though the ':' isn't needed in .vimrc
[19:10] <shadedpixel> syko, No problem. If you experience any issues just come back here and we can help you out
[19:10] <reisio> EricJ: or S/PDIF, optical or not
[19:10] <syko> shadedpixel: do you have any knowledge about ecryptfs?
[19:10] <EricJ> reisio: no doubt, but that's the cable I got :)
[19:10] <shadedpixel> syko, No I've never used it just ext4 and ext3 :D
[19:11] <syko> haha :D
[19:11] <lubuntu_> wow ubunutu has got a big community
[19:11] <lubuntu_> :D
[19:11] <syko> lubuntu_: yep!
[19:11] <syko> good amount of support. :)
[19:11] <EricJ> reisio: anyway, it was working fine up until I did a "aptitude safe-upgrade". Now, I can't find what's bad for the life of me.
[19:11] <Guest44800> jrib: hmm tried 'vim .vimrc' and got "Cannot source a directory: "$HOME/.vimrc"
[19:11] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_ I actually use debian, but thats what ubuntu is based upon
[19:11] <syko> this is why I switched to Ubuntu.
[19:11] <syko> because their support is awesome!
[19:11] <reisio> EricJ: check the log, then, and undo things
[19:11] <lubuntu_> yeah
[19:11] <jrib> Guest44800: because you have created a directory called ~/.vimrc.  You should delete it
[19:11] <reisio> rmdir ~/.vimrc
[19:11] <Guest44800> jrib should i del-  ahhhh ok
[19:11] <lubuntu_> shadedpixel i do not like debian 7 this time because of gnome 3
[19:12] <lubuntu_> kinda slows my pc
[19:12] <reisio> so don't use it
[19:12] <anonee> jrib when you click the power icon it triggers the file /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh which has a pidof line, and I think that its because pidof is not working that's why the script is doing nothing, and they added /sbin/shutdown -h now before if pidof x $PMS > /dev/null ||
[19:12] <rypervenche> lubuntu_: You can chose a different desktop environment on Debian.
[19:12] <EricJ> reisio: any idea if mismatching ALSA version between libraries and driver is bad? My libraries are 1.0.25 but the driver is 1.0.24.
[19:12] <EricJ> reisio: the only bug I found about that was close as invalid however, so... not sure.
[19:12] <jrib> anonee: did you not say that pidof was not working when you tried it?
[19:12] <lubuntu_> rypervenche is it begineer friendly??
[19:12] <reisio> mixmatching most things is bad :p
[19:12] <Guest44800> jrib: i can't view the directory in the Gnome gui file explorer thing, so remove it via terminal right?  although... why can't i view it?  shouldn't it be a folder called '.vimrc' ?
[19:12] <reisio> if an update has broken something, you need to re/install other things, or un-update :p
[19:12] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_ I don't use debian 7, i use debian sid and I also just use dwm for my desktop environment
[19:13] <lubuntu_> does it feel good for a newbie like me?
[19:13] <jrib> Guest44800: by default files (and directories) that start with a '.' are hidden (so as not to clutter your workspace).  You can go to view -> show hidden files, or use the command reisio gave
[19:13] <lubuntu_> i mean will it
[19:13] <lubuntu_> ?
[19:13] <rypervenche> lubuntu_: See my PM.
[19:13] <EricJ> reisio: right, time to read up on apt pinning or whatever then. Thanks. :]
[19:13] <reisio> EricJ: or just proper comprehensive upgrade procedure
[19:13] <anonee> jrib when I try it from inside my session for programs that are running under my user id then yes it works, otherwise no, and this problem is common...
[19:13] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, Debian is ubuntu without Unity on a basic level :P
[19:14] <jrib> anonee: when you say "try it" what do you mean?
[19:14] <lubuntu_> alrigthy then
[19:14] <reisio> except you can install unity on debian if you want
[19:14] <Guest44800> jrib:  ahhhh i see.  makes 100% sense now.  I screwed it up when i made that directory... no wonder google wasn't helping
[19:14] <reisio> silly google
[19:14] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, The difference is you have to install most everything yourself, ubuntu comes with everything pre-installed but with debian you just install what you need
[19:15] <lubuntu_> oh ? i see
[19:15] <shadedpixel> more manual setup in a sence
[19:15] <syko> shadedpixel: archlinux or ubuntu?
[19:15] <syko> in terms of customization and eyecandy.
[19:15] <lubuntu_> but it's so hard to find the download link for debian
[19:15] <shadedpixel> syko, Customization? Arch Linux by far
[19:15] <lubuntu_> can someone give a link
[19:15] <lubuntu_> straightly to the download lol
[19:15] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, 64 bit or 32 bit?
[19:16] <syko> shadedpixel: is there any ebook you recommend for me so I can get a idea how can I run ArchLinux professionally and install it and customize things?
[19:16] <syko> a ebook which explains that...etc
[19:16] <lubuntu_> i want 32 bit
[19:16] <Guest44800> jrib: aweeeesommmeee, finally to see it work and see the numbering and other stuff working now... so awesome...
[19:16] <syko> lubuntu_: I use 32bit aswell.
[19:16] <lubuntu_> a GUI other than GNOME 3
[19:16] <shadedpixel> syko, They have a beginners guide on there wiki but I do't know of any ebooks
[19:16] <lubuntu_> a much lightweight one
[19:16] <syko> lubuntu_: how much is your RAM?
[19:16] <davidkrauser> syko: the arch wiki is really good. Don't need a book. See: wiki.archlinux.org
[19:16] <anonee> jrib for example I could run $ sudo pidof conky or # pidof conky or $ pidof conky  they all work, but when I try # pidof deluged or $ pidof deluged it won't work
[19:17] <lubuntu_> lol how do i check
[19:17] <lubuntu_> hehe
[19:17] <Guest44800> jrib: thanks a lot man, that was some quick responding! :D #ubuntu rules!
[19:17] <lubuntu_> lets say it is very small
[19:17] <lubuntu_> the machine is a netbook
[19:17] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, less than 1GB?
[19:17] <shadedpixel> lol
[19:18] <lubuntu_> its an HP-Mini something
[19:18] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, also do you have access to the internet on your netbook? Like via a ethernet cable?
[19:18] <lubuntu_> no ethernet
[19:18] <lubuntu_> i go for wireless
[19:18] <syko> lubuntu_: gnome 3 is poison for your laptop.
[19:18] <syko> lubuntu_: use xfce.
[19:18] <lubuntu_> thats what i am talking about
[19:18] <syko> lubuntu_: xfce is lightweight and uses only 90MB RAM
[19:18] <shadedpixel> XFCE or LXDE
[19:18] <lubuntu_> so can anyone send me  a link to download debian
[19:18] <itsme5n> hi
[19:18] <lubuntu_> 32 bit xfce
[19:19] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, Im getting it for ya :)
[19:19] <lubuntu_> thanks
[19:19] <syko> shadedpixel: lxde or xfce? in terms of less-RAM usage.
[19:19] <lubuntu_> lxde win
[19:19] <reisio> LXDE should technically use less, at the outset
[19:19] <house_of_reason> Lightweight doesn’t necessarily mean better ;)
[19:19] <reisio> itsme5n: hi
[19:19] <reisio> house_of_reason: that, too
[19:19] <itsme5n> hi all
[19:19] <reisio> itsme5n: hi again
[19:19] <lubuntu_> house_of_reason but it means faster
[19:19] <itsme5n> reisio, hi
[19:20] <house_of_reason> depends what you use your OS for
[19:20] <sameh> hello iam sameh i need help i install ubuntu 11 i have problem reslution know plz any help
[19:20] <lubuntu_> thats true
[19:20] <Flannel> lubuntu_: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-7.1.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso.torrent  it's not hard at all.  Also, #debian could probably help (http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ has links)
[19:20] <jrib> anonee: what does « ps -ef | grep deluge » show you?
[19:20] <itsme5n> i am trying to install bactract tools in ubuntu
[19:20] <sameh> helo
[19:20] <sameh> hello
[19:20] <reisio> hi
[19:20] <itsme5n> can anyone has list of imp pentest tools??
[19:20] <syko> itsme5n: try #kali-linux
[19:20] <sameh> hello iam sameh i need help i install ubuntu 11 i have problem reslution know plz any help
[19:21] <shadedpixel> Flannel, but does he know how to use bittorrent?
[19:21] <itsme5n> syko, ok
[19:21] <davidkrauser> sameh: what problems are you having?
[19:21] <Flannel> shadedpixel: His OS probably does.  Using bittorrent means he doesn't need to know how to check the md5 manually.
[19:21] <sameh> screen reslution with ubuntu 11
[19:21] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, Are you going to be using a USB or CD for installing?
[19:22] <shadedpixel> or DVD
[19:22] <lubuntu_> thank you Flannel
[19:22] <itsme5n> join #kali-linux
[19:22] <lubuntu_> im going to do that itsme5n
[19:22] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, Did you get it? ;)
[19:22] <lubuntu_> yeah
[19:22] <lubuntu_> thanks
[19:22] <syko> itsm35n, it's /join #kali-linux
[19:22] <syko> with the "/"
[19:22] <davidkrauser> sameh: is the resolution too low? Have you tried changing it in the preferences?
[19:22] <shadedpixel> Flannel, I stand correncted :)
[19:22] <sameh> davidkrauser> screen reslution with ubuntu 11
[19:22] <shadedpixel> lubuntu_, Sure, enjoy debian
[19:23] <syko> can I use SystemRecoveryCD to repair ubuntu?
[19:23] <sameh> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[19:23] <shadedpixel> syko, no but you can backup your files with it
[19:24] <shadedpixel> syko, System rescue CD is based on gentoo not ubuntu :P
[19:24] <davidkrauser> sameh: sorry. Have you tried going to the system settings menu from the menu bar and looked at the monitor or display pane?
[19:24] <kosnick> hi, ubuntu 13.04 dont have "create new document" in my right click menu. I added "new.txt" inside ~/Templates and made it 777 but nothing changed. Any help?
[19:24] <anonee> jrib http://pastebin.com/SVLVKFUu
[19:24] <syko> shadedpixel: how can I backup /home/? /home/ is around 31GB, but how can I make it lower lol
[19:24] <syko> like compressing it.
[19:24] <sameh> davidkrauser> screen reslution with ubuntu 11
[19:24] <syko> I just need to backup /home/
[19:24] <davidkrauser> sameh: http://www.myapitips.com/2011/11/02/how-to-change-monitor-resolution-in-ubuntu-11-10/
[19:24] <sameh> plz help i have problem in screen reslution with ubuntu 11
[19:25] <jrib> anonee: you have nothing running as "deluged"
[19:25] <shadedpixel> syko, yah you can use System rescue cd to backup your /home/ direcetory to a usb drive or online, etc.
[19:25] <syko> do I have to install system recovercd to backup my /home/ directory?
[19:25] <shadedpixel> syko, no
[19:25] <syko> I can't do it on my distro?
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> syko  I use rsync -a to backup to an external usb disk
[19:26] <sameh> $ xrandr  $: command not found  <davidkrauser>
[19:26] <shadedpixel> syko, you just boot from the live CD (or USB whatever you use) and you can use the file manager to copy and paste your home folder to a usb or back it up to dropbox or a similar service
[19:26] <sameh> $ xrandr  $: command not found  <davidkrauser>
[19:26] <sameh> $ xrandr  $: command not found  <davidkrauser>
[19:26] <FloodBot1> sameh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:27] <jrib> anonee: you have python running though.  Probably with -x, you will get output for pidof -x deluged
[19:27] <syko> MonkeyDust: which command do I have to enter to backup my /home/ directory to /dev/sdb1 (aka /media/[USB NAME])
[19:27] <jrib> anonee: I must go but I suggest you try executing the actual powerbtn script, inserting debug print statements and using set -x, to figure out where it is failing
[19:27] <anonee> it worked!
[19:28] <anonee> jrib thanks for your help
[19:28] <shadedpixel> syko, You could also do what MonkeyDust said basically use and live cd and just use "rsync -a /home/[your username] /dev/[whatever your usb is]
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> syko  rsync -a /home/[username] /media/[usb name]
[19:29] <shadedpixel> *any live cd is what i ment not and :P
[19:29] <kosnick> why my ~/Templates directory is not working? i put a "new.txt" file in there (made it executable) but still i dont get it in my right click menu. Anyone?
[19:30] <syko> I'll try rsync!
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> kosnick:  perhaps you need to restart nautilus , or log out/back in?
[19:30] <shadedpixel> syko, yah it might be the fastest method
[19:30] <syko> I see!
[19:31] <kosnick> Dr_Willis: already done that, even restarted. How to restart nautilus?
[19:31] <shadedpixel> syko, you may want to use not just -a but -v to so you can see what is going on (-v for verbose)
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> kosnick:  if youlogged out - then you have restarted it.
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> syko  if you want to see what happens, use rsync -av --progress --delete [source] [dest]
[19:31] <kosnick> Dr_Willis: ok
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> kosnick:  perhaps check askubuntu.com - personally i delete that template folder.
[19:31] <anonee> anyone can tell me where I can read to do what jrib suggested? he suggests that I try executing the actual powerbtn script, inserting debug print statements and using set -x, to figure out, I don't know how to do this?
[19:32] <shadedpixel> MonkeyDust, why --delete?
[19:32] <kosnick> Dr_Willis: well maybe that is my problem. I think i deleted it some time and now i cant have the "new document" option there
[19:32] <Guest44800> anyone here using smuxi?  what is its' process name how do you access it via terminal?  like suppose you wanted to start smuxi?
[19:32] <kosnick> Dr_Willis: or the upgrade to 13.04 did the job for me...
[19:32] <syko> rsync -av --progress --delete /home/user /dev/sdb1
[19:32] <syko> is this right?
[19:32] <syko> what do these parameters mean: -av, --progress and --delete?
[19:32] <syko> I am curious.
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> shadedpixel  it deletes what's no longer on the source, after it was rsynced to the dest
[19:33] <shadedpixel> syko, --progress shows your progress and im pretty sure --delete will just remove your home directory from the hard drive after copying it over to the USB
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> syko  shadedpixel no
[19:33] <shadedpixel> progress of the transfer that is
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> shadedpixel  syko --delete deletes files on the backup, that are no longer on the source
[19:34] <syko> no! I don't want to delete my /home/ directory, dude.
[19:34] <shadedpixel> syko, then just don't use the --delete flag
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> syko  it only happens on the backup
[19:34] <syko> MonkeyDust: if I run that with --delete, my /home/ will be deleted?
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> syko  no
[19:35] <shadedpixel> syko, if you want to play it safe then you can just use: rsync -av --progress /home/user /dev/sdb1
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> syko  if files were copied to usb, after that, they were deleted from /home, they will also be deleted on the backup, when you rsync again
[19:37] <syko> and what does -av mean?
[19:37] <syko> I understand v is verbose, but 'a'?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> -av mens archive verbose
[19:37] <shadedpixel> syko, what he/she said xD
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> -a means that existing files are skipped and left alone
[19:38] <syko> alright, thank you for your time and help :)
[19:38] <shadedpixel> syko, no problem
[19:38] <shadedpixel> im off to install debian testing :P
[19:41] <syko> Boot sector corrupt. Config.sys missing. Disk cannot be read.
[19:41] <bekks> There is no config.sys in Ubuntu. Thats a DOS/Windows specific file, so please ask in ##windows
[19:42] <syko> bekks, I was testing something.
[19:42] <syko> if my boot sector is corrupt, or if my disk can't be read, how can I fix it? or just reinstall my system files and will that fix it?
[19:42] <bekks> !grub2 | syko
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> syko  from the rsyn man page : "--delete     This  tells  rsync  to delete extraneous files from the receiving side (ones that aren’t on the sending side), but only for the directories that are being synchronized."
[19:43] <llu_> s
[19:43] <llu_> killer
[19:44] <syko> I see, monkeydust.
[19:44] <llu_> s
[19:45] <llu_> i see lights on sky :)
[19:47] <syko> bekks, what if grub is broken?...
[19:47] <Darkstar1> hi can someone target a site and tell me if the site is visually fine
[19:47] <bekks> syko: Then you have to read the articles ubottu just gave you.
[19:48] <Darkstar1> http://www.hazanperelmutter.com/index.php?id=4
[19:48] <Georwl> I am having problems with "warning sounds". I disabled them but if I am adjusting the sound I still hear that "popping" sound. I can't mute them.
[19:49] <bekks> Darkstar1: Why dont you just start a browser and look yourself? :)
[19:49] <Georwl> Does anyone know how to mute that?
[19:49] <Darkstar1> I have, but the client who is from elsewhere is telling me it's broken
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> Georwl:  you mean a 'ding' thats the volume feedback ?
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> Darkstar1:  yes it sowkr.
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> working
[19:49] <bekks> Darkstar1: And your client is using Ubuntu?
[19:50] <Georwl> Dr_Willis: Yes
[19:50] <Darkstar1> bekks: no. windows
[19:50] <ggherdov> Hi all. How do I check if package X is installed on my system ?
[19:50] <Darkstar1> chrome 28.
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> ggherdov  apt-cache policy [package]
[19:50] <bekks> Darkstar1: Then I dont think its an Ubuntu-related problem.
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> ggherdov:  try reinstalling it perhaps?   or theres dpkg options
[19:50] <Darkstar1> bekks: thanks
[19:51] <ggherdov> Thanks MonkeyDust Dr_Willis
[19:54] <lonewulf85> I have an annoyance with my netbook, It is an acer aspire one AO722. My issue is with the elantech touchpad, it will stop working and force me to use the keyboard to navigate with. Any ideas on how to fix this? I am running Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64
[19:57] <aleksey> !ru
[19:58] <lonewulf85> Also I ran xinput list in terminal and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5971099/
[19:58] <aleksey2013> 1503949
[19:58] <aleksey2013> !ru
[20:00] <Georwl> can someone tell me in which the "warning sounds" are stored?
[20:00] <mojtaba> Hi, I am new to linux world. Does anyone know a site which teach a command per day? ( I want to feed the RSS. :) )
[20:00] <lonewulf85> !elantech
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> Georwl:  'locate .wav' or 'locate .ogg' may show them in the list
[20:02] <Eleonore> Hello. I have xubuntu 13.04. And I want to install libglib 2.0-0 ( version: 2.36 ) ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/libglib2.0-0 ) because I need it for mysql-workbench. But when I try to install it it says that it breaks the current libglib-bin package. How can I do it ? thanks.
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> !info libglib
[20:04] <ethan> Is there any way I can capture both microphone and build in monitor at the same time when recording?
[20:04] <ethan> built*
[20:04] <Eleonore> I give the link of the package.
[20:04] <Eleonore> gave *
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> !info libglib2.0-0
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> that is the current version in the repos - it seems.. so how are you trying to install it?
[20:06] <Georwl> Dr_Willis: The terminal doesn't show me the whole list. I guess it is way longer. How do I make the terminal show me a bigger list?
[20:06] <Eleonore> Nope, the current version is 2.34.1, and I need 2.36. I tried installing it downloading that package
[20:06] <mojtaba> Hi, I am new to linux world. Does anyone know a site which teach a command per day? ( I want to feed the RSS. :) )
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> Georwl: huh? you mean 'locate whatever  | more'  ?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> bot just said the version was  2.36.0
[20:07] <Georwl> Dr_Willis: yes that is also working. thx
[20:08] <Ampelbein> Eleonore: What is the output of "apt-cache policy libglib-2.0" and "lsb_release -r"?
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> Georwl:  bash/command line fundamentals. ;)
[20:09] <ggherdov> hello, given the name of a file, how to know what package installed it?
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> ggherdov:  apt-file  can be used for that
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-file
[20:09] <Eleonore> Ampelbein: ohhh lsb_release -r tells me 12.10 >.< I thought it was 13.04
[20:09] <Ampelbein> ggherdov: "dpkg -S /path/to/file"
[20:09] <Ampelbein> ggherdov: If it's a file already installed.
[20:09] <ggherdov> Ampelbein: Dr_Willis: thanks
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> apt-file works for packages not installed. ;)  i wonder if thats what ubotu uses.
[20:09] <syko> do you guys know of any ebooks which can teach me everything about Linux (or almost)
[20:10] <syko> dr_willis: ubottu has feelings.
[20:10] <Ampelbein> Eleonore: See. You'd need to find a backport for quantal then.
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> syko:  10000's of ebooks online.   look for the Oreially ones.. and theres no one book for 'everything'
[20:10] <syko> I see.
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> syko:  id suggest starting with the ubuntu 'manual' then the orealy 'using bash' book.
[20:10] <Eleonore> Yes, thanks Ampelbein
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> then focus on whatever topixs you want
[20:11] <Ampelbein> Eleonore: And given the amount of rdepends, I doubt there is one.
[20:11] <syko> ubuntu's manual and using bash book
[20:11] <syko> can teach me 98% of Linux?
[20:11] <syko> or 70%?
[20:12] <ryanzim> how can i rename all photos in a directory recursively from 0000 and up
[20:12] <ryanzim> preferably organizing them by the date they were take
[20:12] <reisio> ryanzim: you want to replace them with numbers?
[20:12] <ggherdov> Hello, how do I tell dpkg to update the list of avail packages? I recently added a repo
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> syko:  any book that covered 70% of EVERYTHING linux could do would still be huge.
[20:12] <reisio> ryanzim: first you'd need to determine whether they all have exif timestamps
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> syko:  focus on the topic you are interested.. then just read whatever else you can find of interest
[20:12] <ryanzim> reisio i want to replace the filenames with numbers because they were taken with different cameras
[20:13] <zambz> Hi there I use xubuntu . I somehow dragged my gnome bottom panel to the middle of the monitor and then lost it . cannot retreive it any suggestions ?
[20:13] <reisio> ryanzim: uhuh...
[20:13] <ryanzim> resio there are timestamps
[20:13] <Ampelbein> ggherdov: dpkg only lists files in installed packages, you want apt-file for files that are not yet installed (Dr_Willis' suggestion)
[20:13] <ryanzim> resisio in an online image gallery it looks odd with differently formatted filenames
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> ryanzim:  theres some rename utils in the repos.   i tend to use 'qmv' at times. Or i cheat and use that 'bulk rename utility' in wine. (since i know how to use it well from my windows days)
[20:13] <reisio> ryanzim: do they all have the same extension?
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> !find qmv
[20:14] <ryanzim> jpg
[20:14] <Eleonore> Well, anyone knows how to solve this ? → http://oi44.tinypic.com/mict90.jpg   . I removed it ( with purge too ) reinstalled many times but it continues.
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> !info renameutils
[20:14] <mojtaba> Hi, I am new to linux world. Does anyone know a site which teach a command per day? ( I want to feed the RSS. :) )
[20:15] <linux11> helooo
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> Eleonore:  solve what exactly?   removed what exactly?
[20:15] <syko> i see, dr_willis
[20:15] <syko> but is there any book which has all the commands of linux?
[20:15] <syko> that are pre-installed, haha.
[20:15] <Ampelbein> Eleonore: bug 1193160
[20:15] <ggherdov> Ampelbein: ok. Point I am `dpkg -S <filename>` and it pretends it's in no package (but i suspect it to be wrong). it says "dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern <filename>"
[20:15] <Eleonore> Solve the empty characters you see in that image. I removed mysql-workbench. And i think it's a problem with the confg.
[20:16] <syko> and how to setup a distro, how to install/customize archlinux...etc (to dr_willis)
[20:16] <Eleonore> I will check Ampelbein.
[20:16] <syko> and how to do recovery, fix ecryptfs, booting..etc
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> syko:  that would be the 'man' pages for whats installed on your system.. or as i said earlier . for bash learning. that oreially book is the king
[20:16] <guntbert> ggherdov: you have to provide the complete path to the file
[20:16] <reisio> ryanzim: find . -type f -iname '*.jpg' -exec sh -c 'mv -n {} $(exif {} | grep -i date | perl -pe "s/^.*?\|(....).(..).(..) (..).(..).(..).*/\1\2\3\4\5\6\.jpg/g")' \;
[20:16] <syko> what's the name, dr_willis?
[20:16] <reisio> ryanzim: I'd recommend having a backup of all of the files though :p
[20:16] <auronandace> !abs | syko
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> syko:  arch linux  is not  Ubuntu.. if you want to learn arch linux. they got their own channel.. and they will tell you to 'go read the arch wiki page'
[20:17] <Ampelbein> ggherdov: What file is it? You can also search on packages.ubuntu.com for contents.
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> syko:  id suggest starting with the ubuntu 'manual' then the orealy 'using bash' book.
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> syko:  i said it was 'using bash'
[20:17] <syko> dr_willis: where is this, "ubuntu manual"
[20:17] <auronandace> !manual | syko
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> i bet tghat would be the first hit for 'ubuntu manual' on google also. ;)
[20:18] <syko> thank you, dr_willis and auronandance.
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> they really need to make a link to that manual on the desktop, or panel. ;)
[20:19] <syko> I see ;)
[20:19] <syko> "buy the book"
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> i got oreially e-books, ;)
[20:20] <yxkvast> f
[20:20] <syko> is ssh tunnelling + socks5 pretty secure?
[20:20] <yxkvast> a
[20:20] <yxkvast> r
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> actually i have bought most of the over the years also
[20:20] <yxkvast> t
[20:20] <FloodBot1> yxkvast: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> syko:  when at book stores - keep an eye on the bargin bin also. older oreially books tend to be just as good as the latest ones. :)  the fundamentals still apply
[20:21] <syko> dr_willis: is ubuntu manual suitable for ubuntu-based distros users too?
[20:21] <syko> a friend of mine needs help.
[20:21] <syko> he runs backbox.
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> syko:  blackbox is a window manager.. and has its own homepage  and support channels.. its not a 'disrto'
[20:23] <syko> dr_willis: backbox linux.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> syko:  i imagine it has its own homepage.. since its not ubuntu..  we really dont know about it in here.
[20:24] <auronandace> syko: those derivatives are not supported here
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> i dont really see the point in most of these derivatives..
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> a few have some neat features. :)  but not much you cant add to a normal ubuntu install.
[20:26] <syko> dr_willis & dr_willis: backbox is highly based on ubuntu, a friend of mine who doesn't understand oreily, can I recommend him this ubuntu manual book?
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> syko:   err.. its not like its going to COST anything for him to read a FREE ubuntu manual.
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> syko:  so you tell us... go read the thing and see if it applys to blackbox linux. since we have NO clue what/how blackbox linux is arranged.
[20:27] <auronandace> syko: and ubuntu is highly based on debian, doesn't make debian supported here
[20:27] <syko> is that ubuntu manual suitable for all linux distros?
[20:27] <syko> about the commands, setup..etc
[20:27] <maitake> elementary os is releasing new in a few hours i think
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> syko:   the Fundamentals of the shell still apply to most alldisrtos
[20:27] <maitake> it's an "ubuntu derivative" i think
[20:27] <auronandace> maitake: not supported here either
[20:27] <syko> so my next question is:
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> syko:  if you would go read the ubuntu manual you would learn about it and see what it covers
[20:28] <syko> is ssh tunnelling + socks4/sock5 secure?
[20:28] <Georwl> Dr_Willis: I can't find the warning sound file. What can I do else? I don't even know what to type in google...
[20:30] <maitake> Georwl: checked /usr/share/sounds?
[20:30] <Georwl> maitake, it's not there
[20:30] <maitake> are you talking about the 'alert' sound
[20:30] <maitake> ?
[20:30] <maitake> that's weird
[20:30] <Georwl> no aboute the volume popping when adjusting
[20:31] <maitake> oh hmm
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> Georwl:  no idea. most would be .wav or .ogg  its possible its built into the binarys.. or you could check askubuntu.com
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> Georwl:  and its not 'poping' its 'playing a test noise' as you said earlier
[20:32] <maitake> hmm, seems mine is /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/audio-volume-change.ogg
[20:32] <Dr_Willis> unless you are refering to some crackling/driver issues..
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> i wouldent be suprised if its not a file being played. but a tone generated by the program
[20:34] <Georwl> maitake, THANKS!!! I don't know how I missed that file
[20:34] <Georwl> thank god that sound was so annoying...
[20:34] <Georwl> Dr_Willis thank you too
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> cant really see why its annoying...
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> serves a function
[20:37] <maitake> haha
[20:37] <maitake> it's just a little pop
[20:37] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: it's annoying because it's an unnecessary noise
[20:38] <gordonjcp> maitake: it's an earsplitting bang
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> err. i thought it served as a volume feedback so you dont blast your ears out.
[20:38] <maitake> gordonjcp: really?
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> its just a little 'ding' here - but that may be because i got differnt desktops installed.
[20:38] <maitake> mine sounds like a slight popping noise
[20:38] <maitake> oh yeah
[20:38] <maitake> probably
[20:38] <gordonjcp> maitake: it is if you're plugged into a large sound system
[20:39] <maitake> gordonjcp: true..
[20:39]  * Dr_Willis has a Huge Massive.. $2  usb-speaker. ;P
[20:39] <maitake> haaha
[20:39] <maitake> headphones here
[20:39]  * gordonjcp aways deletes /usr/share/sound after every update
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> now those bongo drum noises at startup..... those are annoying.
[20:39] <maitake> just deleting it wipes the sounds?
[20:39] <guntbert> back to support please :)
[20:39] <gordonjcp> maitake: they're not there to be played any more
[20:40] <gordonjcp> maitake: it's the only way to entirely stop Ubuntu making annoying noises
[20:40] <maitake> guntbert: we're emotionally supporting eachother's frustrations with ubuntu sounds
[20:40] <maitake> ;)
[20:40] <maitake> gordonjcp: oh okay
[20:40] <maitake> no errors or bugs result from it?
[20:40] <Roland-> hey there. seems like I need android-tools-fastboot  for my 12.04 ubuntu, what repo should I add?
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> link /usr/share/sound to /dev/null   :P
[20:43] <pmart> foo
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> bar?
[20:44] <maitake> 2k
[20:44] <maitake> not for linux, sorry
[20:44] <elpelado> Hi and good waves to everyone
[20:44] <daftykins> hi
[20:44] <elpelado> :)
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> Roland-, Not ever seen any fork of that out of android.
[20:46] <rampage73> ok I am attempting to setup a software raid using 2 3TB drives, and everything goes fine until grub install which fails any suggestions? oh I am using 12.04 LTS
[20:47] <elpelado> i have an issue w thunderbird notification in ubuntu 13.04... anyone has to?
[20:47] <elpelado> too
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> elpelado, The channel works with you stating the issue in details. ;)
[20:48] <Rust3dCor3> hi
[20:48] <reisio> hi
[20:48] <Rust3dCor3> i have a question . how to make sure to use ssh
[20:49] <Rust3dCor3> just.. how to check it if it works
[20:49] <reisio> Rust3dCor3: ?
[20:49] <reisio> Rust3dCor3: do you have another box on the same local network?
[20:49] <Rust3dCor3> no
[20:49] <reisio> Rust3dCor3: phone with wireless?
[20:49] <Rust3dCor3> no
[20:49] <Rust3dCor3> only single pc
[20:49] <reisio> mmm, you could get a free shell, I s'pose
[20:49] <Rust3dCor3> and thats a bummer
[20:49] <DJRWolf> Is there a good program to check an HDD in an external USB dock for bad sectors? I want to clone a HDD that is failing to a new drive but want to check it for that problem first.
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> DJRWolf, The disks app has a smartcheck function, top right corner looks like a gear.
[20:52] <DJRWolf> wilee-nilee thanks
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> sure
[20:54] <johnny_arson_> Hello everyone. Does anyone have experience with booting from a USB drive on an machine with UEFI BIOS?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> johnny_arson_, Have you seen the uefi wiki or a relevant thread at the ubuntu forums?
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> hmm,, the ubuntu live usb;s seem to work with me on my uefi pc.
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall seeing a 'uefi' device in the boot menu of the pc's bios boot device menu i may have had to select
[20:58] <johnny_arson_> wilee-nilee I'm reading them right now.  I'm trying to help someone on a discussion board and this uefi stuff is new to me.
[21:01] <goddard> what counter strike should i get ?
[21:01] <goddard> counter strike : source is kind of old
[21:01] <goddard> is there a newer one?
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> johnny_arson_, Hardly anyone does understands all the possibilities definitively, you have manufactures with there own tweaked versions, I would rather remove a finger then help with uefi personally. ;)
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> !games
[21:01] <kostkon> goddard, buy them all just to be sure :P
[21:01] <goddard> haha
[21:01] <goddard> kostkon: sure do you want to donate to my bitcoin wallet?
[21:02] <kostkon> goddard, mine is empty :(  soooo even if i wanted... i couldn't
[21:02] <goddard> damn
[21:02] <johnny_arson_> wilee-nilee I needed to hear that.  Thank you.  I've bitten off more than I can chew.  I'm going to gently abandon this poor fella.
[21:03] <goddard> i have pretty much given up on getting my 7950s into crossfire mode
[21:03] <DAPOLITE> question
[21:03] <goddard> no one knows how to do it
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> johnny_arson_, I know dual booting intimately, the best I do is here are the info I see as best and cut them loose.
[21:03] <goddard> ive complained to AMD a few times already
[21:03] <DAPOLITE> using linux on Windows Virtual Machine
[21:04] <goddard> haha
[21:04] <DAPOLITE> it doesn't seem to have any Network Interfaces
[21:04] <DAPOLITE> how do I fix this
[21:04] <guntbert> !enter | DAPOLITE
[21:04] <DAPOLITE> Sure
[21:05] <DAPOLITE> I am using linux on Windows Virtual PC and when I boot into the OS it does not parse any Network Interfaces. How do I fix this?
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> DAPOLITE:  you may want to try it in virtualbox. Most of us in here have experience with vbox. not windows virtual pc.
[21:07] <guntbert> DAPOLITE: I have no experience with windows VMs - are you certain that the settings include a virtual network interface?
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> its possible you need to change the virtual network card in the WinVirt PC settings
[21:07] <_21h_> btrfs is a cake or sometimes crashes?
[21:07] <DAPOLITE> I have included the network interfaces in the settings before opening it up
[21:07]  * sp2 waves hello
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> We can only suggest the Windows Virtual PC forums/guides/wiki, and the #windows channel. since it may not be a ubuntu issue.
[21:08] <johnny_arson_> wilee-nilee Well, you've helped me.  I'm going to go read these docs now.  Thank you.
[21:08] <failmaster> i have a problem with switching passphrase luks auth on boot to key file based, extra details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> DAPOLITE:  test out some other disrtos and live cds in that vm perhaps see if any of them work
[21:09] <DAPOLITE> iwconfig  command shows no wireless extentions
[21:10] <goddard> Anyone running crossfire or sli?
[21:10] <Chris262> got a noob question about command environment.    Don't use it much with my macbook, so therefore I am rusty and lost in that environment.  Any resources/books you guys can recommend to help my navigate ubuntu server and linux command period
[21:11] <jrib> !terminal | Chris262
[21:11] <goddard> anyone?
[21:12] <goddard> does no one else like graphics?
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> Chris262:  1000's of guides on using 'bash'    the oreially book 'using bash' is a must find/read
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> goddard:  i really dont see much point in SLI/Crossfire. so no. ;)
[21:12] <jrib> goddard: we all hate graphics I guess
[21:12] <Chris262> much appreciate Dr_Willis
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> This PC can even do  the dual video card thang.. but id need a bigger power supply. ;)
[21:13] <goddard> Dr_Willis: why?
[21:14] <IBM_CLONE> Hello folks. Lots of websites have MOUSEOVER video review and the video can be watched in increments. My question is: Is there a PHP daemon or any other daemon to install with Ubuntu or Debian. I teach classes in A+ and CCNA. I would like to have the students mouseover the cached videos without seeing the entire video. Any comments?
[21:14] <brontosaurusrex> Chris262, bash http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ and #bash, basics http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/unix1.html
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> goddard:  i dont see the point in spending 2x the $$ for  the gain. (which wont be much  for most people)
[21:15] <jonald> sup guys
[21:15] <jonald> what u all doin
[21:15] <goddard> Dr_Willis: some motherboards can run 2 pcie slots at x16
[21:15] <guntbert> DAPOLITE: of course not, I've never seen a VM getting a wireless interface, they get virtual wired ones
[21:15] <guntbert> jonald: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:15] <goddard> jonald: chillin bro
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> goddard:  yes.. so?
[21:16] <goddard> Dr_Willis: if you can run 2 cards at that speed then you can use both GPUs and memory on those cards
[21:16] <goddard> Dr_Willis: the games just need to take advantage of it not to mention if you are some kind of fold at home person
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> goddard:  i know how the games/stuff works..i just dont see the point in the extra cost.
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> dont really see much point in splurgeing on high end video cards these days either.
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> expecially on a linux machine
[21:19] <sp2> is there a console based method to explore pakages from apt-get?
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> sp2:  aptitude perhaps?
[21:20] <goddard> Dr_Willis: we got steam now and higher resolution displays and cool graphics for desktops
[21:20] <failmaster> sp2, aptitude show probably, yeah, but define "explore"
[21:20] <goddard> it makes sense
[21:20] <larsjaa> sp2 apt-cache search *
[21:20] <goddard> Dr_Willis: you can still nerd out and use your terminal
[21:20] <sp2> That did it.
[21:20] <sp2> Thanks!!
[21:20] <goddard> Dr_Willis: it just looks a lot better
[21:20] <Guest98087> When will Ubuntu 13.10 be out?
[21:21] <failmaster> i have a problem with switching passphrase luks auth on boot to key file based, extra details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> Guest98087:  the version #  IS THE RELEASE date.. year/month
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> so 2013, 10th month
[21:22] <rreed> Dr_Willis, and now my mind = blown. why did that go over my head for so long? lol
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> rreed:  makes you wonder why they  bother with the cute/annoying  names also..
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[21:23] <guntbert> failmaster: no real help from me but I edited your post for easier reading - the formatting is mucheasier too :)
[21:24] <failmaster> guntbert, thanks! =)
[21:25] <guntbert> failmaster: You're welcome - and have a look at the editing help, its useful :-)
[21:29] <MoPac> Hello - I'm looking for support with keyrings. I'm trying to figure out how to (1) get my PGP password to timeout, as per Enigmail instructions, and (2) set the "unlock this keyring at login" box to UNchecked by default when unlocking a secondary keyring
[21:37] <xkernel> how to install Ubuntu development tools?
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> xkernel:  what tools exactly?
[21:39] <xkernel> Dr_Willis, I mean the SDK, and IDEs  and build toosl
[21:40] <OerHeks> !ide
[21:41] <OerHeks> and this is a good start > http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> !b-e
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> theres a ubuntu sdk? ;)
[21:45] <Prock81> what would cause the unity launcher to not scroll properly when i get close to the top and bottom edge(above trash icon)? When i bring the mouse to the bottom edge, it scrolls to where its all black with 3 and a half icons showing up at the top, , and the top edge only scrolls down too, i have to manually drag it down !!!
[21:45] <Prock81> its been like that a while, just taken be a while to get really fed up with it!
[21:46] <OerHeks> Yes Dr_Willis http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/07/ubuntu-sdk-beta-released/
[21:47] <failmaster> sorry for such kind of a question, but would it be a hood idea to build some things i could probably miss for my RaspberryPi from deb-srcs?
[21:47] <failmaster> g*
[21:47] <holstein> Prock81: maybe the driver support.. do you have a 3d driver?
[21:48] <Prock81> i dont know, how would i tell
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> failmaster:  i got several pi's - what are you missing? rasbian seems to have most everything i need.
[21:49] <holstein> Prock81: i usually run lspci -vv in the terminal and see what devices are there and what modules are loaded for them
[21:49] <failmaster> Dr_Willis, i didn't get too close to it, but i thought there could be some stuff that might not be presented in repos, so i'm just asking for emergency case in advance =)
[21:50] <Prock81>  holstein openarena plays perfictly, its a 3d shooted up game
[21:50] <holstein> Prock81: if you would like, confirm that you are using a 3d driver.. thats what im propsing could be causing the issue..
[21:51] <ServerHorde> Fellow Ubuntu users, my friend and I have a problem setting up our VPN on our Ubuntu 10.04 VPS. We first had the problem running it, which was easily fixed. We're trying to set it up with NetworkManager Applet 0.8. He setup his VPN to the exact correct setting, however it's greyed out and we're not able to selected it. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks. :)
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> failmaster:  so you dont actually own one yet? ;)
[21:52] <failmaster> Dr_Willis, i do, even launched the raspbian on it already =)
[21:52] <holstein> !vpn | ServerHorde
[21:52] <ni320702> hi
[21:52] <Prock81>  holstein graphice related; Kernel driver in use: nouveau; Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb
[21:52] <reisio> hi
[21:53] <loin> hi guys, i can't get the nvidia driver running
[21:53] <holstein> Prock81: looks like that is the open source driver.. you could try the proprietary one.. the unity dock wouldnt be "mission critical" for me, personally
[21:53] <holstein> Prock81: you can always try as another user to make sure its not your config
[21:53] <wiehan> Hi. With the aid of fdupes I managed to clean my music library.  How can I through the CLI/terminal rm all folders with contents smaller than say 50kb?
[21:53] <holstein> !invidia | loin
[21:54] <holstein> !nvidia | loin
[21:54] <loin> i'm trying to install the nvidia drivers drivers http://paste.ubuntu.com/5971434/
[21:54] <Prock81> what config would belong to those properties of the task bar
[21:55] <holstein> Prock81: is the other user looking fine?
[21:55] <Prock81> i only have one user
[21:55] <wiehan> Any bash/terminal gurus here? I need to delete all tiny folders within /home/music.. need help
[21:56] <hylian> i would like to use a tool like norton ghost to image my disk, what software should I use, and will I have to re-install the boot sector software seperately? (grub, for instance?)
[21:56] <holstein> Prock81: you actually have a guest user.. its quite easy to create a new user, if you would like to test.. otherwise, the settings will be in .config somewhere
[21:56] <wiehan> hylian, see clonezilla
[21:56] <loin> holstein, i don't know if the information there applies
[21:57] <hylian> wiehan: does clonezilla support ext4? i thought it didn't...??
[21:57] <loin> i don't have nouveau running and i have nvidia in lsmod
[21:57] <wiehan> hylian, parted magic
[21:57] <Prock81> loging out holstein...
[21:57] <holstein> loin: there? the link i gave? it will tell you what package to install for your hardware, and how
[21:57] <wiehan> hylian, not sure.. see parted magic
[21:57] <loin> holstein, also, jockey doesn't find my nvidia card
[21:57] <hylian> wiehan: i am trying to do this for free if possible, does parted magic have a price?
[21:57] <wiehan> hylian, it's for free
[21:57] <hylian> wiehan: ok, thank you.
[21:57] <Prock81> err got to let something finnish before i log off
[21:58] <holstein> loin: i dont use jockey.. i refer to the link i gave, and manally install what is needed
[21:58] <hylian> if i use something like ghost to load up my partition or hd image, do I need to install grub seperately again?
[21:58] <failmaster> hylian, why not image it with dd for example or make some kind of "necessary things backup" with that deja-dup thing or rsync?
[21:59] <holstein> hylian: i dont know if ghost clones grub.. but nothing about grub is preventing that.. might depend on the location. its easy to restore grub
[21:59] <reisio> hylian: reinstalling grub is trivial
[21:59] <holstein> hylian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair for example
[21:59] <hylian> failmaster: i have never heard of those options... that's why. Sounds lucratively Linux, which is what I want, please do tell!
[21:59] <loin> holstein, do you also have a intel + nvidia gpu?
[21:59] <reisio> as is recreating partitions
[22:00] <wiehan> hylian, Grub is easy to fix and the easiest would be boot repair disk http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/
[22:00] <failmaster> !deja-dup
[22:00] <holstein> loin: i do.. though i dont follow that guide for my specific hardware. i use a 3rd party PPA that is not offically supported
[22:00] <loin> that guide doesn't seem to be doing much
[22:00] <holstein> loin: that guide *did* install the normal nvidia driver for me
[22:01] <loin> holstein, i'm not sure i find the instructions on how to install the normal nvidia driver
[22:01] <failmaster> loin, could you please show us your `lspci` output?
[22:01] <holstein> loin: "normal" is the driver you need
[22:01] <hylian> holstein: thanks, that gives me a good start. Thanks to holstein loin wiehan reisio!
[22:01] <holstein> loin: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current is where i might start.. *after* having read the wiki page
[22:01] <loin> failmaster, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5971461/
[22:02] <hylian> ohh yeah, and thanks to failmaster
[22:03] <loin> holstein, i assume you mean BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[22:04] <loin> which shows an image of jockey
[22:04] <failmaster> loin, so basically at average you need to instal nvidia-current package that would replace nouveau for nvidia propietary driver, that would be a good idea to check /etc/modprobe.d blacklists as well as, tell us if it's a laptop?
[22:04] <loin> and says that noveau is the default one
[22:04] <loin> failmaster, it is a laptop, asus K93S if its relevant
[22:05] <DoYouKnow> Are there still a lot of problems with 13.04 or is it, at this point, nearly as stable as 12.04.1?
[22:05] <DoYouKnow> or 12.04.2?
[22:05] <holstein> loin: as stated, i dont use jockey.. i install manually, much like the command i shared
[22:05] <fsck-noob> I get an error about my .bash_history having multiply claimed blocks.  Is there a way to just delete the file?  Fsck is taking forever (w/o progress bar)
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> fsck-noob:  its just a trivial file. delete it if you want
[22:05] <holstein> DoYouKnow: the problems you would have would likely be hardware specific with *any* linux distro
[22:05] <holstein> DoYouKnow: 13.04 has been "stable" since it was released stable
[22:06] <failmaster> loin, there is another problem related to "nvidia optimus" technology on systems with intel internal graphics and discrete nvidia ones
[22:06] <hylian> maybe I am going abouty this the wrong way. all I want to do is not have to re-install all my apps, and re-update everything. besides /var/cache/apt/archives (which I already use to reduce downloads) what else should I backup?
[22:06] <loin> failmaster, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5971476/
[22:06] <DoYouKnow> holstein, I see
[22:06] <loin> failmaster, nvidia-current seems to be disabled by default
[22:06] <wiehan> how do I fix this... fslint won't run http://pastebin.com/nMz4mg95
[22:06] <holstein> hylian: whatever you think you might loose, if a hard drive failed.. since they all do
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  that apt cache may not be a full cache of everything you have downloaded.
[22:07] <Prock81> the guest session task bar scrolls fine!
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> !clone | hylian
[22:07] <holstein> loin: by default, its not installed.. you install nvidia-current
[22:07] <hylian> holstein: my purpose isn't data saving, I already do that. My purpose is to not have to reinstall my apps and do update/upgrades every 3-6 months when i wipe my machine..
[22:07] <Prock81>  holstein: ^
[22:07] <loin> holstein, i have nvidia-experimental-310 by default
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  so you are planing on doing a clean reformat/reinstall ?
[22:08] <loin> should i replace it with nvidia-current?
[22:08] <holstein> Prock81: so, i would blow out the config for your user.. or "reset" unity and try..
[22:08] <jgornick> Hey guys, after Ubuntu boots up and shows the login screen, is there something available that shows like a diagnostics screen?
[22:08] <jgornick> ... shows the diagnostic screen instead of the login screen.
[22:08] <hylian> Dr_Willis: I do every 3 months. (Mostly because I mess with other distro's and also I am very anal about my machine, to my own detriment.
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> jgornick:  what are you trying to see?
[22:08] <holstein> loin: if you have *any* packages marked "experiental", and you have issues.. yes. try ones that are *not* experiemental
[22:08] <failmaster> loin, i would dig for bumblebee, because normally even if nvidia driver for your discrete card is installed, intel internal one is in the place due to the fact there is no out-of-the box solution for nvidia optimus switching technology (which switches from one of them to another on-the-fly)
[22:08] <jgornick> Dr_Willis, mainly network information
[22:08] <Prock81> reset unity?
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> jordan:  you can alwyas go to the console and get all sorts of info.
[22:09] <holstein> bumblebee doesnt support my dual GPU chip
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> Prock81:  delete the unity and compiz config files in the users home.
[22:09] <failmaster> loin, that's why it's so frustrating having nvidia adapter with appropriate module and not seeing it working
[22:09] <loin> failmaster, i know about bumblebee but i don't really want it, i want the nvidia driver for cuda pretty much
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> Prock81:  the webupd8 and omgubuntu sites (and askubuntu.com) have some guides on it
[22:09] <holstein> should be easy enough to try bumblebee.. but the PPA's are not officially supported, bear in mind
[22:09] <failmaster> loin, read about nvidia optimus, you won't get it up for cuda without bumblebee
[22:09] <jgornick> Dr_Willis, this is for Ubuntu server, not desktop.
[22:10] <jgornick> So, no graphical interface.
[22:10] <hylian> i guess what I am asking is, what do I need to replace to not have to reinstall/reupgrade anything upon fresh install of ubuntu.
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> jgornick:  so i dont get what you are asking then...
[22:10] <failmaster> loin, or similar solution to switch the state of discrete video from nvidia on laptops with optimus
[22:10] <jgornick> Dr_Willis, something like https://github.com/turnkeylinux/confconsole -- http://www.turnkeylinux.org/screenshots/configuration-console-usage
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  if you backup your apt cache.. that will save SOME downloads.. but it will not be a complete archive of everything you may have installed.
[22:11] <loin> failmaster, that doesn't sound like good news, let me try installing nvidia current, maybe then nvidia-settings will find the drivers
[22:11] <holstein> hylian: "need" is based on your specific needs.. what i do is backup my data, and my /home folder.. *if* im interested in a list of applications i have installed, i make that.. otherwise, i fresh install, and add what i want. usually takes less than 30 minutes to "move back in" to an install
[22:11] <wiehan> ImportError: No module named gtk
[22:11] <wiehan>  --> what package do I need if an app gives this error? I have python-gtk2 installed
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> jgornick:  cant say ive noticed any console based 'webmin type tools' like that.
[22:11] <hylian> Dr_Willis: it's not just download times, it also takes quite some time just to let Ubuntu do it's massive upgrades after re-install.
[22:11] <failmaster> loin, that's why Linus showed them his mid finger
[22:11] <loin> failmaster, i support Linus's actions
[22:11] <holstein> loin: nvidia-settings will *not* find any drivers.. its for setting nvidia settings
[22:11] <loin> at least in this particular instance
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  you may just have to spend the time.  if you are reinstalling.. you will reinstall every package you need.
[22:11] <reisio> hylian: hey you're back
[22:11] <hylian> Dr_Willis: so besides the archives folder, what else should I be backing up?
[22:12] <reisio> hylian: you want to backup the OS?
[22:12] <loin> holstein, currently nvidia settings says "you're not running the nvidia driver"
[22:12] <failmaster> loin, you don't get it, nvidia discrete adapter is "behind" nvidia optimus switch and you need it to turn of having thing like bumblebee, you won't get it working otherwise
[22:12] <hylian> reisio: yep. I think I was over thinking the issue.
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  whatever custome configs you have. and a list of packages (see the !clone factoid)
[22:12] <holstein> loin: AFAIK, you havent installed it, and it doesnt come by default
[22:12] <loin> holstein, "i suspect it won't say that when i am running the proper driver, right?"
[22:12] <failmaster> loin, turn on*
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  you are not really backing up the system.. you are just making a reinstall easier. ;)
[22:12] <failmaster> sorry for my english
[22:12] <hylian> !clone
[22:12] <holstein> loin: "proper" will be a matter of use case.. the open driver is not fitting your needs?
[22:12] <failmaster> !optimus
[22:13] <failmaster> !bumblebee
[22:13] <failmaster> :/
[22:13] <reisio> hylian: you can just tar it up
[22:13] <hylian> Dr_Willis: yes, no net data, because my net connection blows, and as little update progress as possible,
[22:13] <loin> holstein, nope, i need cuda
[22:13] <loin> !cuda
[22:13] <holstein> failmaster: bumblebee is only in PPA right now.. not officially supported
[22:13] <Prock81> i seen a compiz config but not a unity, i deleted the compiz , log off and come back on and hte problem is fixed, with an system error on process /usr/bin/pkexec if its related some how
[22:13] <reisio> hylian: then to restore you remake partitions, untar, re-install GRUB
[22:13] <failmaster> holstein, as well as optimus
[22:13] <failmaster> but that's not a reason to not having it working
[22:14] <loin> brb, reboot
[22:14] <failmaster> loin, dig for bumblebee and optimus mate
[22:14] <holstein> failmaster: im just letting you know what theres no documentation.. it is in upstream debian
[22:14] <hylian> reisio: i think now I need not to "ghost" it, but to get every cached .deb and cofig download I can get, and to try and minimize the amoutn of upgradeing I have to do when I reinstall Ubuntu
[22:14] <failmaster> holstein, thanks
[22:14] <failmaster> i already was able to make a conclusion
[22:14] <holstein> bumblebee *does* *not* support my dual GPU
[22:14] <failmaster> i wasn't suggesting it to you
[22:15] <holstein> sure.. but the user has similar hardware.. which i why i state that..
[22:15] <GTEKY> howdy
[22:15] <hylian> reisio: just tar what, /?
[22:15] <reisio> hylian: yeah
[22:15] <holstein> wont hurt to add the PPA and try it.
[22:15] <failmaster> holstein, i missed that thing, however it doesn't hurt so much to check things, something could change since
[22:15] <Prock81> any comments or questions for me before i go ,  holstein
[22:15] <holstein> failmaster: could have.. but i just tried it again 2 days ago.. i suppose there is time for a fix to have come in
[22:16] <Prock81> did u see what i said about it
[22:16] <hylian> reisio: so then my reinstall process would be 1) install Ubuntu 2) untar to current running distro 3) run update/upgrade?
[22:16] <holstein> Prock81: i literally go and remove *everything* from the home.. and put it elsewhere
[22:16] <reisio> hylian: you could actually "reinstall" by just making the partitions, extracting the tar, and reinstalling grub
[22:16] <holstein> then i reboot, and put what i want/need back when i see things are working as expected.. but, that is extreme Prock81
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  why are you going to clone the system to just reinstall it in its identical state?
[22:16] <Prock81> all i had to remove was compiz, there was no unity, and problem is fixed
[22:17] <reisio> hylian: you're just trying to give yourself a way to do a full upgrade revert should you want to, right?