[04:03] <Nikster> Im running GeForce 2 with legacy drivers, GLX works fine as long as composite is disabled.. anyone know why? i want to try Compiz on 7.10
[04:03] <^Ocean^> how do I increase my workspaces from 2 too 4 ?
[04:03] <Vimto> Pelo, oh i see!
[04:03] <Vimto> Pelo, This will resolve the problem?
[04:03] <propagandhi> matooke: yeah there is a difference. One is in the future and does not effectively exist yet
[04:03] <endlessurf> ocean right click on the workspaces and go to properties
[04:03] <NotSure> jrib, control-shift-u and then what?
[04:03] <propagandhi> matooke: but on a serious note, I am using gutsy with no issues whatsoever
[04:03] <EvanP> hey, anyone know an exact date for gutsys release?
[04:04] <Nikster> 18th
[04:04] <Pelo> Vimto,  you,ll get a text install, no live desktop, from the cd boot menu you will go straight in to the installation, no need to worry about an install icon ,  the mouse should probably be detected aswell
[04:04] <Davy_Jones> EvanP: http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:04] <jrib> NotSure: the code for your character
[04:04] <Davy_Jones> EvanP: 6 days to go
[04:04] <gaby_> what is this?
[04:04] <matooke> planning to set iup my 1st mail server and also planning to use dydns. Is it free?
[04:04] <t4dyce> how to create a boot disk ubuntu 7.04 ?
[04:04] <EvanP> Davy_Jones, thanks bro
[04:04] <bone> Can someone suggest a good ip_masq
[04:04] <NotSure> jrib you mean to type four digits?
[04:04] <Vimto> Pelo, Fine but am i required to do something with the text?
[04:04] <Davy_Jones> EvanP: sure thang
[04:04] <propagandhi> gaby_: by THIS what are u referring to?
[04:05] <bone> Can someone suggest a good ip_masq'd firewall for a dual nic ubuntu server (lan side and wan side)
[04:05] <Vimto> Pelo, or it should be installed by its own!
[04:05] <ironcladlou> How can I create a launcher icon for a bash script (.sh)?
[04:05] <EvanP> is there a ubuntu swedish channel?
[04:05] <UnaCoder> bone: iptables ?
[04:05] <jrib> NotSure: not necessarily digits, but sure
[04:05] <UnaCoder> bone: that's what i use at home
[04:05] <tritium> EvanP: #ubuntu-se
[04:05] <UnaCoder> bone: there are a lot of good tutorials on setting that up
[04:05] <wolfsong> how do I configure individual screensavers?
[04:05] <NotSure> jrib, ok I am trying to enter ctr-shft-u and then I press 00AC but that does not work. Do you know why?
[04:06] <bone> UnaCoder, iptables isnt really a firewall script. More I want something I can plkug in a few things and get going. like the old firewall.rc from projectfiles
[04:06] <EvanP> tritium, thank you
[04:06] <Pelo> Vimto,  you won'T need to   use commands for the install, just select options in an ugly shell like with the windows intaller
[04:06] <Davy_Jones> !screensaver
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <wolfsong> I'm also having "lockups" when the screensaver starts
[04:06] <tritium> EvanP: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/local
[04:06] <Vimto> Pelo, alright is that it?
[04:06] <UnaCoder> bone: iptables is what firewalls scripts use to set policies...
[04:06] <Pelo> Vimto,  yes
[04:06] <ironcladlou> to clarify: how can i create a launcher icon in the gnome panel for a shell (sh) script?
[04:06] <wolfsong> it doesn't completely lockup but the screen stays black
[04:06] <h1st0> wolfsong: usually configuration is right on screensaver page but I believe ubuntu devs removed that option in some screensavers
[04:06] <jrib> NotSure: did you follow it with a space or something
[04:06] <Vimto> Pelo, Thank you i will see after downloading this file
[04:07] <bone> UnaCoder, trust me, I know that. Just dont feel like reinventing the wheel right this second to get the lan onboard
[04:07] <NotSure> jrib no, but you I see had no trouble entering the character
[04:07] <wolfsong> h1st0: I'm not sure what you mean...the only option I have is preview
[04:07] <UnaCoder> bone: how complicated a setup are you looking for
[04:07] <NotSure> jrib what exactly did you type after cntr-sht-u ?
[04:07] <endlessurf> does anyone know how to assign devices to a particular event????   anyone
[04:07] <h1st0> wolfsong: yeah like glmatrix screen saver should have a configuration option also next to preview.  At least a default gnome install has that but the ubuntu screensaver package removed that.
[04:08] <jrib> NotSure: ctrl-shift-u, releaso, 00ac, space
[04:08] <jrib> NotSure: ctrl-shift-u, release, 00ac, space
[04:08] <NotSure> jrib, ok got you, hold on
[04:08] <bone> UnaCoder, multi interface (eth0 dhcp to cable modem, eth1 to lan switch serving lan via ip_masq). Maybe blacklisting and port designation.
[04:08] <bone> UnaCoder, I dont even need TOS :)
[04:09] <jrib> NotSure: ctrl-shift-u, releaso, ac, space   should work as well
[04:09] <bone> sorry, qos
[04:09] <NotSure>  jrib! you are cool !
[04:09] <NotSure> WOWOOW! JRIB! JRIB!!! WOWOW
[04:09] <NotSure> : ))
[04:09] <wolfsong> h1st0: yeah I don't have that for GLMatrix
[04:09] <ironcladlou> anybody? this should be a trivial task. i've tried both a regular application launch and an application in terminal launcher, neither work
[04:10] <pau1> Hey guys
[04:10] <pau1> I need some help
[04:10] <`Matir> ironcladlou, what's the problem?
[04:10] <pau1> Im running 7.04 Feisty, and I closed that menu bar at the bottom of the screen
[04:10] <ironcladlou> `Matir: I am just trying to figure out how to launch a shell script from an app launcher in gnome
[04:10] <pau1> That shows whats programs are running
[04:11] <pau1> and lets me switch desktops
[04:11] <pau1> I can relaunch it
[04:11] <pau1> *ant
[04:11] <pau1> **cant
[04:11] <tritium> ***can't
[04:11] <ironcladlou> `Matir: i've tried launchers, using "sh <path to script>", gnome-terminal -e, nothing works (i'm trying to launch my java IDE, intellij IDEA)
[04:11] <endlessurf> paul add a new bar
[04:11] <pau1> Yes
[04:11] <Pelo> pau1,  right click on an empty area of the top bar,  select add a pannel , move the new pannel to the botom,
[04:11] <pau1> I suppose
[04:11] <UnaCoder> bone: well that stuff is pretty simply done with the iptables command line tool, but you might check this out: http://www.pcc-services.com/iptables.html
[04:11] <ironcladlou> `Matir: just executing it from a term works fine
[04:12] <endlessurf> mouse events anyone???????
[04:12] <`Matir> ironcladlou, does just NOTHING happen?  if so, what is placed in .xsession-errors?
[04:12] <pau1> Hmm, thats just adding things to the top panel
[04:12] <bone> UnaCoder, is it something I can just apt-get (I come from Slack in 94, to Gentoo in 03, and now this, so I am getting used to this deb!an stuff).
[04:13] <theATOM> how can i clean my ubuntu hdd from all ineternet activity?
[04:13] <riotkittie> aw. a slacker. <cheek pinch>
[04:13] <endlessurf> paul right click and hit new pannel
[04:13] <butterj> msg NickServ set email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:13] <cafuego> h4x!
[04:13] <pau1> A windows pops up
[04:13] <pau1> with crap to add to it
[04:13] <ironcladlou> `Matir: if i configure the launch as a terminal launcher, i see some window pop up and disappear immediately
[04:13] <tritium> butterj: oops ;)
[04:13] <UnaCoder> bone: oh... dunno.  never needed anything like that.  what you're talking about is probablly too simple for a whole different tool to be written
[04:13] <haletd> is the atom looking at adult content?
[04:13] <ironcladlou> `Matir: .xsession-errors is empty
[04:13] <UnaCoder> bone: I would just get friendly with iptables =)
[04:13] <endlessurf> paul you hit add to panel
[04:13] <pau1> Ah
[04:14] <UnaCoder> bone: it's not that hard once you get the hang of it
[04:14] <pau1> sorry
[04:14] <pau1> Thanks alot
[04:14] <ironcladlou> `Matir: if i configure the launch as an "Application", nothing happens when i click the icon (other than the animation for opening an app)
[04:14] <tabbi> How can I burn an is9660 image with wodim/cdrtools?
[04:14] <bone> UnaCoder, unfortunately I am, and can just echo up ip_forwarding but was going to use a simple script for now. want to switch out my firewalls
[04:14] <`Matir> ironcladlou, what happens if you run "gnome-terminal -e SCRIPTNAME" from a console?
[04:14] <ironcladlou> `Matir: and again, nothing in .xsession-errors
[04:14] <ironcladlou> `Matir: i'll try that
[04:15] <ironcladlou> `Matir: the same thing that happens if i run it from the alt+f2 run dialog: a terminal window with a modal error stating "there was an error craeting the child process for this terminal"
[04:15] <theATOM> how can i clear hdd from internet activity?
[04:15] <UnaCoder> bone: masquerading is as simple as: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth(external) -j MASQUERADE
[04:16] <EruditeHermit> hey, what sort of suspend does ubuntu use?
[04:16] <MasterShrek> !suspend
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <MasterShrek> !hibernate
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <komputes> This is a Re:Ask, does anyone have a cross platform video conference tool (I was recomended VLC, but that needs ports to be opened)
[04:17] <`Matir> ironcladlou, can you put the output of "mount" in a pastebin, please
[04:17] <MasterShrek> hmm
[04:17] <UnaCoder> bone: well hmm i'm not aware of any tool that does what you're askin' =/
[04:17] <ironcladlou> `Matir: one moment
[04:17] <steve1> does anyone know where i can get linux32
[04:18] <ironcladlou> `Matir: http://pastebin.com/m79a0e86d
[04:18] <bone> UnaCoder, I just snagged my firewall script from the old projectfiles.org server that seems to be long gone now days. Will use it till I can write something more indepth. Thanks anyway.
[04:18] <DM|> Anyone else having trouble getting gparted to run?
[04:18] <lumpycow> komputes I think that Gizmo project has video conferencing in its newest version
[04:18] <logreeval> in firefox the adobe flash is not working correctly for this site.... http://www.toyota.com/tundra/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_TUNDRA_INDEX anyone know why?
[04:18] <komputes> steve1: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/linux32
[04:18] <steve1> komputes: ty
[04:18] <bone> UnaCoder, since i'm deb!an illiterate, how do I view all available packages on the server build.
[04:18] <komputes> thank google
[04:18] <steve1> :P
[04:19] <UnaCoder> bone: aptitude search <pkgname>
[04:19] <komputes> so, videoconferencing on Ubuntu, anyone?
[04:19] <bone> UnaCoder, sweet. Thanks again
[04:19] <UnaCoder> np
[04:19] <lumpycow> komputes: I think that the Gizmo Project has vid conferneceing
[04:19] <bone> arno's firewall script is available. Wohoo. that will work.
[04:19] <`Matir> ironcladlou, odd... that error is usually from a lack of a proper /dev filesystem... what are permissions on /dev/null?
[04:19] <steve1> komputes: does it matter what Architecture i get?
[04:20] <UnaCoder> bone: if something you're looking for isn't listed make sure you have the extra repositories uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:20] <komputes> I have no clue, it's unstable though, so I dunno if i would recomended, whats calling for it>?
[04:20] <ironcladlou> `Matir: crw-rw-rw-1 root root 1, 3 2007-09-07 09:51 /dev/null
[04:20] <UnaCoder> bone: lots of stuff is in universe and multiverse
[04:20] <komputes> did you check the repositories first?
[04:20] <logreeval> anyone?
[04:20] <bone> UnaCoder, thanks. Will do that.
[04:21] <bqmassey> i want the coolest installation ever....  something very sleek and mac-like.. like a hacker on an FBI drama would have
[04:21] <bqmassey> what should i look into?
[04:21] <bone> Anyone know why when I start apache2 (7.04 LAMP+DNS Server Install) apache2 will not start, and dies with a Bus Error?
[04:21] <riotkittie> hackers on fbi dramas have things that are mac-like? <puke>
[04:21] <UnaCoder> bone: bus error?
[04:22] <bqmassey> like.. is there anything for ubuntu like the thing on mac that fades the screen and has customizable widgets
[04:22] <riotkittie> fades the screen? err. elaborate?
[04:22] <bone> UnaCoder, yep.
[04:22] <steve1> komputes: Well i am trying to install this game for my son and i get the error (This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown) so i thought linux32 would help?
[04:22] <UnaCoder> bone: can you paste or pastebin it?
[04:22] <riotkittie> you can use compiz-fusion. and screenlets. <shrug>
[04:23] <UnaCoder> bone: did you aptitude install apache2?
[04:23] <bone> UnaCoder, no, used LAMP + DNS package installs during initial install.
[04:23] <bqmassey> what are screenlets?
[04:23] <bqmassey> n/m google
[04:24] <UnaCoder> bone: run: apatitude show apache2
[04:24] <bqmassey> screenlets is excatly what i wanted
[04:24] <steve1> does anyone where have wolfenstein:et installed on their linux machine?
[04:24] <UnaCoder> bone: is the state "Installed"?
[04:24] <komputes> ya, just install WINE first and then the exesteve1:
[04:24] <bone> UnaCoder, yes
[04:24] <TheBuddha> A quick question: I've just installed the RC of Gutsy Gibbon, along with the new Broadcom drivers, but I'm unable to connect to my wireless network...it's detected (even shows the signal strength), but it times out when looking to actively connect. Has anyone else had this problem?
[04:25] <bone> UnaCoder, apache2 doesnt seem to generate a startuperror.log and nothing in error.log or access.log either.
[04:25] <bqmassey> i also want an application that will check all of my email addresses (including yahoo, gmail, and hotmail) and let me know when I have new emails
[04:25] <lumpycow> Say - is there any way to get a OSX like dock for Ubuntu WITHOUT using composite??
[04:25] <TheBuddha> lumpycow: I don't think so, no.
[04:25] <bone> UnaCoder, almost like its set to depend on something else which isnt started.
[04:25] <`Matir> is anyone familiar with openldap authentication?
[04:25] <UnaCoder> bone: what error specifically are you getting on the console?
[04:25] <bone> Bus Error
[04:25] <bone> then the [failed]
[04:26] <_var> how go I get ls to display colors by default
[04:27] <komputes> ONCE a system is configured properly (drivers, apps, settings etc) Is there a way to back that up in case I need to make a new install without wasting 3 hours re-configuring it?
[04:27] <bone> _var its a switch you alias to ls normally
[04:27] <thinman1189> Hello. I'm trying to see if my friend's graphics card is supported in 7.10. I check the hardware support wiki and it doesn't specifically mention it. It's GeForce 6100 128mb pcie. Anyone know?
[04:27] <_var> bone: how?
[04:27] <cafuego> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[04:27] <UnaCoder> bone: I've read that some times PHP will cause that, try commenting out the LoadModule php... and AddModule mod_php... in your httpd.conf and see if it starts or not
[04:27] <cafuego> pop that in ~/.$SHELLrc
[04:28] <steve1> komputes: Well i am trying to install this game for my son and i get the error (This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown) so i thought linux32 would help?
[04:28] <lumpycow> yah
[04:28] <cafuego> UnaCoder: There is no such thing in httpd./conf on Ubuntu.
[04:28] <ruz322> thinman1189: it should be, most nvidia geforce cards are, i have a fx5200 and it works great, so you should have no problem
[04:28] <UnaCoder> cafuego: how about a broken php module
[04:28] <bone> UnaCoder, it might be my filesys. I am getting cciss cmd f7c80000 has CHECK CONDITION byte 2 = 0x3 in my /var/log/messages file when I run the start/stop
[04:28] <thinman1189> ruz322: ok, thanks.
[04:28] <linxuz3r> SDFSDSDFSDFSDAFSDFkolOOSKKDFKL
[04:29] <bqmassey> QUESTION:  Does Ubuntu support real window transparency? Not the old make-application-background-from-copy-of-real-background, but real transparency?
[04:29] <_var> what are and how do I use aliases?
[04:29] <ruz322> thinman1189: just make sure you download the nvidia-glx package using apt-get and use the nvidia driver for your xorg configuration
[04:29] <cafuego> UnaCoder: they exist, but you still enable/disable php differently.
[04:29] <bone> _var, let me chec. give me a few seconds
[04:29] <UnaCoder> bone: more likely the issue
[04:29] <UnaCoder> cafuego: how would you do it? that's how i always have
[04:29] <ruz322> thiman1189: the vesa driver works, but the nvidia is much better, and it gives you 3d support
[04:29] <cafuego> UnaCoder: 'sudo a2enmod/a2dismod' on apache2.
[04:29] <linxuz3r> !op
[04:29] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[04:29] <komputes> Steve: oooooohhhhhh, try installing WINE or Ubuntu Ultimate with WINE and then try New Wolf
[04:29] <komputes> http://newwolf.sourceforge.net/
[04:30] <UnaCoder> cafuego: guess i'm used to apache 1 heh
[04:30] <nixternal> linxuz3r: what's up?
[04:30] <Amaranth> bqmassey: If you use compiz it does
[04:30] <bone> _var, type alias, and see if you already have it set
[04:30] <tritium> linxuz3r: yes?
[04:30] <linxuz3r> who thinks UBUNTU ROCKS???????????????????????????????
[04:30] <Amaranth> linxuz3r: !op is only to be used in emergencies
[04:30] <ruz322> linxuz3r: i know you didnt......you messaged the ops to say that?
[04:30] <bqmassey> thanks Amaranth
[04:30] <bqmassey> where do i find a list of supported video cards?
[04:30] <linxuz3r> sorry
[04:31] <_var> bone: just returns with anything to standard input
[04:31] <thinman1189> ruz322: ok, thanks. would the same go for geforce 6200 agp 256mb?
[04:31] <cafuego> There _is_ an emergency
[04:31] <ruz322> thinman1189: yes
[04:31] <nixternal> cafuego: what is it?
[04:31] <thinman1189> ruz322: thanks
[04:31] <cafuego> linxuz3r is attempting to troll
[04:31] <victor__> server irc.irchighway.net
[04:31] <bone> _var, what term program are you in?
[04:31] <hhp2k> Can someone help me with an X11 problem? I
[04:31] <cafuego> (but failing rather miserably)
[04:32] <rob> cafuego, that's the impression I'm getting, or he is just being annoying
[04:32] <_var> bone: bash
[04:32] <cafuego> heh
[04:32] <hhp2k> I'm trying to install a screensaver pack and the ./configure script stops with an error about X11 default directory not being found.
[04:32] <nixternal> any matter, that should quiet him for a bit
[04:32] <nixternal> I noticed his previous stuff as well
[04:32] <bone> var, type alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[04:32] <nixternal> f0rtune: where at in Illinois are you?
[04:32] <f0rtune> nixternal, suburd of chicago
[04:32] <bone> _var, then type alias and make sure it set
[04:32] <f0rtune> suburb*
[04:33] <nixternal> f0rtune: same here
[04:33] <nixternal> Bloomingdale
[04:33] <Amaranth> bqmassey: If you use the Ubuntu 7.10 Release Candidate (just released today) compiz will be on by default if your hardware supports it
[04:33] <ruz322> hhp2k: pastebin the error and give me the link
[04:33] <geirha> hhp2k: you probably need to install libx11-dev package
[04:33] <f0rtune> nixternal, hmm im somewhat close to that
[04:33] <steve1> komputes: so i assume this is the place? http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64
[04:34] <bqmassey> Amaranth: i don't have ubuntu installed yet.. i dont want to download the iso until it's officially released
[04:34] <nixternal> f0rtune: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChicagoTeam/GutsyReleaseParty - We are having a release party and install fest at the College of DuPage on Sunday the 21st if you are interested
[04:34] <f0rtune> what package do i need to be able to play avi files (some avi codec?)
[04:34] <bqmassey> Amaranth: is there a list somewhere?
[04:34] <hhp2k> ruz322: http://pastebin.org/4652
[04:34] <komputes> steve: what kind of chip what ver. of ubuntu?
[04:34] <akincer> This might be a strange question, but what version of Bacula is going to be in 7.10? Anyone know? I've come to like that backup package.
[04:34] <f0rtune> nixternal, OMG thats so cool, i may actually go
[04:34] <Amaranth> bqmassey: intel, older ati, and nvidia
[04:34] <geirha> f0rtune: depends on the player you want to use
[04:34] <steve1> komputes: 6.06
[04:34] <f0rtune> nixternal, COD isnt far from my house, just need to get ppl to go with me
[04:34] <nixternal> f0rtune: I run the Ubuntu Chicago LoCo team (#ubuntu-chicago IRC channel) if you are interested in hanging out
[04:34] <bone> UnaCoder, odd, but an apt-get upgrade of my 7.04 Server build fixed the issue.
[04:34] <ruz322> aah release party, wish we had one near me in georgia!!!
[04:34] <endlessurf> does any one know how to make a usb device keep the same event everytime it is booted?
[04:35] <nixternal> I am the vice-pres of the CoD LUG. so I use CoD as much as possible :)
[04:35] <UnaCoder> bone: heh, must have been a broken package or something
[04:35] <f0rtune> geirha, i was using movie player, but what would  you suggest
[04:35] <UnaCoder> bone: partially installed perhaps
[04:35] <noor> so did 7.10 come out yet?
[04:35] <hhp2k> geirha: libx11-dev installed
[04:35] <f0rtune> nixternal, thanks for the info ill check it out
[04:35] <hhp2k> geirha: Already :\
[04:35] <komputes> steve1:what kind of CPY
[04:35] <ruz322> hhp2k: install the libx11-dev package and try it again
[04:35] <nixternal> cool f0rtune...awesome catching some more Chicagoans here :)
[04:35] <komputes> CPU
[04:35] <akincer> 7 days till 7.10
[04:35] <noor> AWWW
[04:35] <noor> T____T
[04:35] <hhp2k> ruz322: libx11-dev already installed, just checked.
[04:35] <bone> UnaCoder, ya. LAMP must have not installed properly. DNS at least looks solid considering I havent touched it.
[04:35] <noor> thx any way
[04:36] <nixternal> :p
[04:36] <endlessurf> does any one know how to make a usb device keep the same event everytime it is booted?
[04:36] <geirha> f0rtune: mplayer and vlc are nice, since they ship with alot of codecs allready
[04:36] <bone> _var, did you get it working?
[04:36] <noor> i cant wait till compiz FInally!! i cant get compiz to work on this one so ill just wait 7 days XD
[04:36] <nixternal> mneptok: gotta pimp Ubuntu mang :D
[04:36] <f0rtune> geirha, thanks ill try those out
[04:36] <akincer> Anybody know the Bacula version in 7.10?
[04:36] <mneptok> endlessurf: "event?"
[04:36] <steve1> komputes: i got the ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64, and i am running an amd 64
[04:36] <pierre_> hi everybody
[04:36] <nixternal> !info bacula gutsy
[04:36] <ubotu> bacula: Network backup, recovery and verification (Meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-4ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 52 kB, installed size 96 kB
[04:36] <nixternal> akincer: ^^
[04:36] <_var> bone: i'm unfamiliar with aliases; can you show me an example; I'm looking at the bash man page now...
[04:36] <mneptok> akincer: Version: 2.0.3-4ubuntu3
[04:37] <endlessurf> mneptok when you boot your computer your usb devices get an event
[04:37] <bone> _var, I showed you an example up top
[04:37] <akincer> Ahh, there's a handy command for such things here? Didn't know that. First time here
[04:37] <geirha> f0rtune: for the movie player, which I assume is the default movie player (totem) you need to install some gstreamer-packages
[04:37] <komputes> steve1: might run into problems with 64 bit, don't know but try always, follow the instructions on the wine page, let me know how it turns out
[04:37] <bone> var, type the following             alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[04:37] <ruz322> hpp2k: hmm thats a strange one...
[04:37] <steve1> komputes: will do xD
[04:37] <endlessurf> mneptok i referenced something in my xorg to a specific event but every time it boots it gets a random event
[04:37] <_var> bone: ah, missed it; thanks
[04:37] <endlessurf> mneptok have any clue?
[04:37] <pierre_> everyone know in the console a command for reset sound card i don't see in the forum
[04:38] <mneptok> endlessurf: input device?
[04:38] <ruz322> hpp2k: have you tried it using that option it suggests?
[04:38] <endlessurf> yeah
[04:38] <ruz322> hpp2k: --with-defaultdir=DIR
[04:38] <bone> _var, you cant just look for the nick highlight when someone is talking to you :)  I missed the _
[04:38] <hhp2k> ruz322: I don't know how to do that. :\
[04:38] <mneptok> endlessurf: use UUID
[04:38] <ruz322> hpp2k: ./configure --with-defaultdir=DIR
[04:38] <bone> _var, after you type that, type               alias
[04:38] <hhp2k> ruz322: But don't I have to specify a directory where DIR is?
[04:38] <endlessurf> mneptok UUID is it in repositories?
[04:38] <bone> _var, and see if its set
[04:38] <_var> bone: done and working...
[04:39] <ruz322> hpp2k: yea, i was assuming you knew it
[04:39] <hhp2k> ruz322: I don't, that's the problem. :P
[04:39] <hhp2k> ruz322: If I knew, I would have tried that.
[04:39] <geirha> hhp2k: never encountered anything like that before, I would look through the configure script and see what it actually tried
[04:39] <ruz322> hpp2k: let me look, see if i can find soemthing
[04:39] <bqmassey> Amaranth: I've got an ATI Radion Mobility 9600 Turbo Pro .....  I think      that should work with all of the effects?
[04:39] <hhp2k> ruz322: Okay, thanks
[04:40] <hhp2k> geirha: That's an idea, thanks
[04:40] <Amaranth> bqmassey: yeah, should work
[04:40] <steve1> komputes: nah it won't let me install the package
[04:40] <bone> _var, you might have to set that somewhere. Most likely your in a desktop install (based on your newbieism), so I would say check which startup files that term uses so that you can add it to them.
[04:40] <bqmassey> Amaranth: awesome. thanks.
[04:40] <jj420> can someone tell me how to share my internet over my wirless network to my laptop running windows?
[04:40] <akincer> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> jj420: uh, a router?
[04:40] <bone> sudo su -
[04:40] <bone> :)
[04:40] <ruz322> hpp2k: /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults try that
[04:40] <komputes> steve1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[04:41] <jj420> my friend has his laptop here and i dont want to buy a router to allow him internet
[04:41] <hhp2k> ruz322: ./configure --with-defaultdir=/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults .. like that?
[04:41] <bqmassey> QUESTION: I ran a Live CD.. and it seemed to work pretty good.. except for that when I changed resolution to my screen's native resolution (which wasn't automatically detected) the screen tiled the desktop at the original resolution
[04:41] <jj420> i thought i could share it through my wireless card
[04:41] <bone> jj420, make him use the tin can and string method.
[04:41] <komputes> steve1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[04:41] <bqmassey> any ideas?
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> jj420: how bout making him buy the router.
[04:42] <_var> bone: so I should put alias ls='ls color=auto' in $HOME/.bash_profile (it's linked to .bashrc)?
[04:42] <geirha> hhp2k: I think it may be /etc/X11/app-defaults on ubuntu
[04:42] <bone> jj420, so you want to set your wireless card to AP mode to allow him to connect into you as the router?
[04:42] <hhp2k> geirha: That's what I was just told, I'm executing that now.
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> bone: why does that sound extremely insecure to my wireless challenged brain
[04:42] <ruz322> hhp2k: yea, i think that one i just found was for somethign else, im reinstalling my ubuntu right now or i would look myself
[04:43] <bone> _var, it depends on the term program. I dont use GUI's for the most part so I dont have a clue. If it were me... I would put it in /etc/profile or someplace that sources
[04:43] <hhp2k> ruz322: Okay.. I believe that may have worked.. but I'm getting another directory problem now
[04:43] <pierre_> akincer thank it work
[04:43] <ruz322> hhp2k: actually, it may be the one i gave you, thats where the libraries are stored
[04:43] <ruz322> hhp2k: what error now?
[04:43] <hhp2k> but that's a different issue, so. Thanks for your help =D Thank you too geirha
[04:43] <bone> IndyGunFreak, its actually not that bad. I have done it, but you do need to be very careful with it.
[04:43] <_var> bone: I'm using tty1 now myself
[04:43] <ruz322> hhp2k: no prob
[04:43] <bone> _var, so your console, and not GUI?
[04:43] <hhp2k> ruz322: http://pastebin.org/4656
[04:43] <jj420> ya
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> bone: i bet... like i said though, i'm a wireless idiot, i know very little about it, as my network is wired
[04:43] <_var> bone: correct
[04:43] <Evanlec> _var, put aliases in ~/.bashrc
[04:44] <jj420>  bone: ya
[04:44] <ari_stress> help. is there anyway i can install BOTH sendmail and postfix? i need to learn them
[04:44] <akincer> No problem. I've had to do that a few times thanks to internet radio via Rhythmbox hosing my audio
[04:44] <steve1> komputes: old wolf is that really old game lol, i was talking about ET :P
[04:44] <Evanlec> _var, you'll see examples even in that file
[04:44] <bone> IndyGunFreak, I wasnt actually answering you though, i was answering jj420. I think
[04:44] <bone> Evanlec, thanks. helping too many at one time :)
[04:44] <IndyGunFreak> bone: ya i know... i was just commenting onw hat you said...lol
[04:44] <Evanlec> bone, np ;p
[04:44] <pierre_> akincer thank it not work
[04:44] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, how goes?
[04:44] <_var> Evanlec: yeah, I've already screwed around with my ENV in there...
[04:45] <bone> IndyGunFreak, ahh. wanted to make sure you didnt think I was talking to you answering one of your issues (if you have any visibile :) ).
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: eh, same ol' same ol'
[04:45] <williams> Can somebody possibly help me with burning an iso in Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 3000 with an old CD-RW drive that was working in this machine with a different OS? When I try to use it with several different programs under Ubuntu it just ejects and asks for a recordable disk. If I just burn as file it works, but of course that does me no good.
[04:45] <akincer> Did didn't work? Then you got an even bigger problem
[04:45] <ruz322> hhp2k: did that screensaver pack come with documentation?
[04:45] <akincer> It didn't work?
[04:45] <pierre_> no
[04:45] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, did u have any trouble with the broken gutsy updates?
[04:45] <ruz322> hhp2k: it seems there may be another package you need to install those extra screensavers
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: no
[04:45] <akincer> Hmmm. I'm not totally sure then.
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> i'm putting RC on my laptop now.
[04:45] <bone> jj420, it is partially insecure so you have to watch how you set it up and make sure that you set it up properly. but it is doable. there are many howto's out there on it. I would check the web actually as it's alot more indepth that even my 85wpm fingers can start into.
[04:46] <LabThug> Hi
[04:46] <hhp2k> ruz322: I'll look through it. Thanks for your help.
[04:46] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, coolness, i cant wait, but i figure ive waited this long, only one more week
[04:46] <ruz322> k
[04:46] <LabThug> does anyone in here use evms for a software raid?
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: lol, be a man, clean install.
[04:46] <bone> jj420, I would search for wireless ap linux howto. that should get you pointed in the right direction. Also, some wireless cards cannot do it.
[04:46] <jj420> ive been googling it but all i come up with is how to set up wap for the ap
[04:46] <akincer> What's wrong with it?
[04:47] <Evanlec> bone, won't he need a wired internet connection (or two connections wireless or wired) to do that?
[04:47] <pierre_> i check video and i have no more snd
[04:47] <jj420> i got a wired connection to my cable modem
[04:47] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, im still planning on clean install...
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:47] <akincer> You mean you play a video and sound stops?
[04:47] <bone> Evanlec, maybe i misunderstood. I thought he had a wired one, and he wanted to open his wireless one up as an AP for his roommate/whomever.
[04:47] <ari_stress> why can't i install both sendmail and postfix? can't i just activating one of them one at a time?
[04:47] <Evanlec> jj420, okay, then all u gotta do is set urself up as a WAP and then use somethin like firestarter (a firewall but can also setup internet connection sharing, aka routing)
[04:47] <Chustar> hello everyone!
[04:48] <Evanlec> bone, no you're right, thats what hes got
[04:48] <hhp2k> geirha: The configure file for this package is massive :(
[04:48] <Chustar> windoze user on the loose!
[04:48] <bone> Ya, what he said.
[04:48] <bone> :)
[04:48] <bone> Evanlec, we are a good team, thanks...
[04:48] <Evanlec> ;)
[04:48] <geirha> williams: try burning from commandline, the output may give some clues: growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=image.iso
[04:48] <pierre_> ok after hibernate i have no sound and i want command line to write in consol for reset card
[04:48] <bone> Evanlec, wait till I start asking about openswan :)
[04:48] <williams> Thanks - I will try that
[04:49] <akincer> The only one I know to reset sound is the one I gave you. But you probably have other problems related to hibernation that simple commands won't fix
[04:49] <Evanlec> pierre_, i'd say skip the hibernate mode
[04:49] <geirha> hhp2k: do you have a link to the package your trying to compile?
[04:49] <Evanlec> bone, openswan? lol
[04:49] <akincer> Openswan? That thing about drove me to drink
[04:49] <Evanlec> lol
[04:49] <akincer> But I got it working the way I wanted
[04:49] <komputes> steve1: I think WINE will still do
[04:49] <bone> Evanlec, ya, I have to figure out how to VPN into my work which uses RSA SecureID's and a nortel client
[04:50] <komputes> bone: on linux?
[04:50] <Evanlec> bone, oh well that sounds like a blast
[04:50] <bone> akincer, it'll probably drive me nuts also. IBM wont support us on it.
[04:50] <bone> komputes, yep.
[04:50] <lumpycow> WHY does my wireless only have 39-40% (2/4 bars) in linux(ubuntu) and in windows it has 3 or 4 bars??
[04:50] <komputes> bone: what sw?
[04:50] <gregorovius> i've just upgraded to gutsy... what's the difference between the 386 and the generic kernel image?
[04:50] <Scunizi> pierre_, I read something on the Dev list about this.  Apparently you have to shut down alsa during the hybernate process and bring it back live when coming out of it.. How you do this I don't know..  they're apparently working on this for the final.
[04:50] <akincer> You looking to use it as a road warrior or as a concentrator?
[04:50] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, check this out, pretty amazing 	http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=mxco1v392x
[04:51] <bone> komputes, openswan is what I was going to use originally, but It might not support the correct nortel vpn protocol.
[04:51] <bone> komputes, its only reason I have windows at home. on call 24/7/366 sucks.
[04:51] <akincer> Openswan can cause issues when certain things are mandated. Such as DHCP over VPN. It will choke everytime
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: lol, how did you come across that?  i can't draw a stick figure with paint
[04:51] <silent> Evanlec, I don't think that website has enough images to load
[04:51] <_var> gregorovius: I believe the generic kernels work with more systems while 386 work only with i386 processors
[04:51] <bone> akincer, i havent tried it in 2 years so i was hoping it would have been better by now.
[04:52] <williams> Question 2 - I cannot get the screen resolution above some awful amount like 400x600 or 600x800 - factory video with the flat panel that came with it. the screen also blanks during startup in place of showing the splash screen or the beautfil list of what it is doing
[04:52] <Evanlec> silent, what?
[04:52] <williams> Try video card or different monitor first?
[04:52] <gregorovius> I got a Pentium D, which one should I use?
[04:52] <silent> IndyGunFreak, there are lots of people who do this sort of thing. I've seen some absolutely incredible photoshop ones
[04:52] <Evanlec> IndyGunFreak, skip forward a bit, its kinda long...pretty amazing
[04:52] <akincer> bone: I don't have a previous point of reference to compare. I only know that it has some severe limitations
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> Evanlec: ok.
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> silent: no doubt its impressive.
[04:53] <bone> Anyone have a clue why I had to install i386 on an dual XEON 3.06ghz system. I thought those Xeons were 64bit.
[04:53] <Evanlec> silent, yea i bet, u got any? this one i thot was rather amazing cuz he's using PAINT, he must have a tablet tho
[04:53] <pierre_> ok boys
[04:53] <pierre_> ok thank's boys
[04:53] <Evanlec> bone, they probly are, but u chose 32-bit kernel?
[04:53] <komputes> bone: http://wiki.openswan.org/index.php/Openswan/Interoperating
[04:53] <LtL> gregorovius - the amd-generic kernel for intel D is what you want
[04:54] <akincer> Their wiki reads like years of all the incoherent parts of stereo instructions cobbled together
[04:54] <bone> Evanlec, I downloaded 64bit AMD and Intel server iso and it wouldnt install. gave a message saying to use 32bit.
[04:54] <Evanlec> bone, no kiddin...
[04:54] <silent> Evanlec, no, any 2000 dpi mouse would do the trick, and I realize doing it with photoshop would seem easier, as it is more featured, however, the quality increases with the switch. It's unbelievable
[04:54] <bone> komputes, been through that like 100 times when I tried a few years ago.
[04:54] <geirha> williams: what video card is it?
[04:54] <bone> Evanlec, yep.
[04:54] <akincer> And the information I found for Sonicwall interoperating there was total crap
[04:55] <komputes> bone: PSK is a PARTIAL and  NAT is MAYBE, so I think it may be too flakey
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> gotta go all, be safe
[04:55] <Evanlec> silent, yea but have u ever tried to draw with a mouse? its certainly not natural
[04:55] <akincer> NAT works fine over Openswan
[04:55] <bone> komputes, uggh. still not fun.
[04:55] <hhp2k> geirha: http://www.reallyslick.com/ is the link to the screensaver package - rsxs-0.9.
[04:55] <komputes> bone: but if you find a way let me know
[04:55] <bone> Wonder if I can make my PIX box just stay connected to the VPN. Wait, it cant use securid
[04:56] <silent> Evanlec, no, its simply another form of art. as sculpting is different from drawing, and drawing from painting, using a mouse is becoming more prevailent
[04:56] <cghbxcfbh> tai
[04:56] <PinkFloyd> Could someone tell me what the chmod command would be to make a dir writeable by all but not readable
[04:56] <williams> intel 82865g Integrated Graphics
[04:56] <komputes> bone: tried WINE and the windows version for now?
[04:56] <Evanlec> bone, did u read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153165
[04:56] <silent> Evanlec, particularly with gaming-grade mice with high dpi sensitivity
[04:56] <bone> komputes, i'll play with it. I hate WINEE and GUI's though
[04:56] <gregorovius> LtL, by amd-generic you mean generic?
[04:56] <_var> why when I do you dd if=/dev/random count=1 my terminal uses funny characters?
[04:56] <bone> Evanlec, probably not :)
[04:56] <akincer> Just run Windows in Xen and get it over with
[04:56] <Evanlec> silent, thats craziness when tablets are so cheap and so much easier and more functional
[04:56] <bone> akincer, i dont do gui's much. I'd rather command line it
[04:57] <Evanlec> silent, i got one 4 years ago for 80$ and its seen a lot of abuse, and it still works like a charm
[04:57] <komputes> so anyone use something simple and cross platform for videoconferencing on linux?
[04:57] <hhp2k> geirha: I found out that xscreensaver wasn't installed, which is the cause of my next error. I'm installing that now.
[04:57] <alduin> _var: You don't have an of= so the random character is getting sent to your terminal and confusing it.
[04:57] <akincer> Me too. But if getting connected is a higher temporary priority, get the gui client running in a VM and work on an alternative in the background at your leisure
[04:57] <_var> aduin: um
[04:57] <bone> Evanlec, looking now
[04:58] <_var> alduin: I should send it to a text file and read it?
[04:58] <silent> http://www.youtube.com/user/macpulenta
[04:58] <Evanlec> bone, you xeon could be either 64-bit or 32-bit apparently
[04:58] <silent> there are various works
[04:58] <silent> Evanlec, ^
[04:58] <black_13> how would i get ubuntu to use microsoft proxy server?
[04:59] <soahc00> hey guys, anyone aware of issues with mixed ide/sata configuration installations?
[04:59] <alduin> _var: That's probably a better way to go.  What are you attempting to do?
[04:59] <bone> Evanlec, you think HP would put 32bit Xeon's in a DL360 G3? I just dont see that for a 1500 machine
[04:59] <steve1> komputes: Ubuntu Dapper (6.06) amd64 not available:
[04:59] <pc2> hi
[04:59] <PinkFloyd> Could someone tell me what the chmod command would be to make a dir writeable by all but not readable?
[05:00] <bone> Evanlec, actually maybe they are. I installed XP on one at work so I bet they are 32's
[05:00] <_var> alduin: I'm just experimenting with my system. I read about /dev/random, so I wanted to see what it was
[05:00] <Evanlec> bone, i dunno, maybe, check the specs on the model if its a brand-name system
[05:00] <geirha> _var: it's a common thing when printing non-character symbols, that the terminal may get messed up. Typing reset usually turns it back though
[05:00] <adamkili> so, um, I used a hard drive in this one laptop I have to test if another laptop I have works (it does), and I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get the X server working on the other laptop, but when I took the hard drive back to my other laptop, ran that command again, and got the x server running, compiz effects stopped working. any ideas on how to fix this?
[05:00] <akincer> Unless I'm mistaken, you cannot have the ability to write but not read. But don't quote me on that
[05:00] <pc2> hi
[05:00] <PinkFloyd> akincer, I didnt think so but it's worth a shot
[05:00] <lumpycow> WHY does my wireless only have 39-40% (2/4 bars) in linux(ubuntu) and in windows it has 3 or 4 bars??
[05:00] <Evanlec> PinkFloyd, i think chmod a-r+w <file> will work?
[05:01] <PinkFloyd> let me try
[05:01] <komputes> silent: wow i want to photoshop like macpulenta
[05:01] <alduin> _var: It's giving you a random character.  It just so happens that that character is also one that messes with your terminal. =)
[05:01] <silent> komputes, heh, me too
[05:01] <dsad> Hi..I know my question doesn't have anything to do with linux but I don't know where to go
[05:01] <PinkFloyd> Evanlec yeah it did
[05:01] <_var> lol
[05:01] <akincer> cool, I was wrong!
[05:01] <dsad> My MSN messenger doesn't work. It loads and I sign in but then it freezes
[05:01] <Evanlec> PinkFloyd, that worked? i just guessed lol
[05:01] <komputes> silent: you think waacom or straight on screen?
[05:02] <silent> komputes, chances are he does it for a living, most likely for modeling. that sort of familiarity with photoshop shows some serious experience
[05:02] <PinkFloyd> Evanlec you guessed correctly. :P
[05:02] <Evanlec> awesome
[05:02] <PinkFloyd> thanks
[05:02] <akincer> Maybe my memory serves that it is a write once proposition.
[05:02] <steve1> komputes: get my pm? :-P
[05:02] <komputes> dsad: son't even start, I want msn too for videoconference, no go
[05:02] <Evanlec> komputes, hes gotta be using a tablet
[05:02] <akincer> Or maybe I'm just confused :)
[05:02] <alduin> _var: And like geirha said, 'reset' will often fix it, even if you can't read "reset" while you're typing it.
[05:02] <silent> the latest one on bumblebee from transformers is pretty awesome
[05:02] <Evanlec> komputes, if he does this for a living...he'd be crazy not to use a tablet
[05:02] <komputes> tablet pc or drawing tablet?
[05:02] <dsad> CPU usage is @ 50%
[05:03] <silent> but scarlett johanssen is also amazing
[05:03] <komputes> spiderman one is amazing
[05:03] <dsad> If nobody here knows do you know who could help me?
[05:03] <komputes> dsad, use pidgin
[05:03] <dsad> pidgin?
[05:03] <silent> Evanlec, it probably is a tablet, based on his sketchings he builds tone and colour on
[05:03] <komputes> msn on wine is a no go
[05:03] <komputes> videoconferencing on linux is a headache
[05:04] <silent> komputes, apt-get install gaim
[05:04] <Evanlec> silent, oh ya the spiderman definitely a tablet, its apparent in his starting sketch outlines
[05:04] <hhp2k> geirha: Installing xscreensaver didn't do it, and gave me the same error about not finding the dir for xscreensaver. I tried to find that dir in etc but it wasn't there. I'm confused. :\
[05:04] <komputes> gaim is now pidgin
[05:04] <Evanlec> silent, lines of varying opacity (black to gray)
[05:04] <PinkFloyd> Evanlec I got what I wanted. I wanted a dir that could not been read in Nautilus but could be written to with the terminal
[05:04] <lumpycow> dsad I noticed that too, I don't think I can chat on MSN right now either
[05:04] <komputes> pidgin does msn, aol, icq irc and more
[05:04] <akincer> Evanlec, did that write but not read apply to files you created?
[05:04] <geirha> hhp2k: could be a followup error from choosing wrong app-defaults dir
[05:04] <silent> Evanlec, yea
[05:04] <hhp2k> geirha: Could be. sigh.
[05:04] <Evanlec> akincer, i didnt try the command, i cant see why anyone would want to lol
[05:05] <silent> PinkFloyd, thanks for the great music
[05:05] <PinkFloyd> >_>
[05:05] <dsad> ok thx
[05:05] <silent> PinkFloyd, you get along so well with the sweet mary jane
[05:05] <steve1> komputes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3517803#post3517803
[05:06] <bqmassey> how many cd's will the new release be?
[05:06] <akincer> oh, it was PinkFloyd that asked
[05:06] <akincer> duh
[05:06] <Snuxoll> Hey all
[05:06] <PinkFloyd> lol
[05:06] <Gun_Smoke> Can someone explain "load averages"?
[05:06] <Snuxoll> In what context Gun_Smoke
[05:07] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: What is it?  Does it matter to me?
[05:07] <geirha> hhp2k: look at "dpkg -L xscreensaver-data" ... could be one of those paths
[05:07] <Snuxoll> Where are you seeing this Gun_Smoke
[05:07] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: uptime
[05:07] <akincer> Anyone here messed with Plone much?
[05:07] <hhp2k> geirha: That's useful, thanks
[05:07] <Snuxoll> What are your load averages?
[05:08] <Pici> Gun_Smoke: check out the manpage for uptime for a good description of what the load averages mean
[05:08] <Scunizi> Gun_Smoke, try "top" from console and you'll see the running load averages  and how the three columns are labeled.
[05:08] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, its an average of the total "load" on your cpu
[05:09] <lumpycow> WHY does my wireless only have 39-40% (2/4 bars) in linux(ubuntu) and in windows it has 3 or 4 bars??
[05:09] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, since your computer was last rebooted
[05:09] <Snuxoll> It's more than total CPU load
[05:09] <Snuxoll> It's also RAM and SWAP loads too
[05:09] <Scunizi> bqmassey, did you get an answer?
[05:09] <Evanlec> lumpycow, probably just driver differences, long as it works right?
[05:09] <bqmassey> Scunizi: didn't see one
[05:09] <bqmassey> Scunizi: trying to figure it out from the site
[05:10] <Gun_Smoke> Is it a way to tell if your system is under preforming task requirements?
[05:10] <Pici> System load averages is the average number of processes that are either  in a runnable or uninterruptable state.
[05:10] <Snuxoll> Who here would buy a pre-built Ubuntu-configured PC if I sold one?
[05:10] <akincer> I've found that iwconfig offers more accurate views of signal quality than the dumbed down windows bars
[05:10] <lumpycow> Evanlec: I guess, but have any idea if using the windows wrapper drivers would perform better?
[05:10] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: I might.
[05:10] <frostburn> how does one park a hard drives heads
[05:10] <Scunizi> bqmassey, there will be one cd per version.. Ubuntu for the Gnome desktop, Kubuntu for kde desktop, Xubuntu for xfce, server and Kubuntu which is kde oriented to the educational market, kids at home etc.
[05:11] <akincer> With a valet
[05:11] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, its more for servers to see how many ppl were on it
[05:11] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: If the price is right..
[05:11] <Snuxoll> What's your price range?
[05:11] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: That would depend.  Right now I would like to stay under 600
[05:11] <Gun_Smoke> CPU alone
[05:12] <komputes> Evanlec: Ya it's a waacom
[05:12] <Snuxoll> What do you expect out of a $600 machine?
[05:12] <macaco> hello
[05:12] <bqmassey> Scunizi: alright, cool....   does it all fit on one cd or does that just install a minimal system and you add everything you need?
[05:12] <komputes> steve1: so you followed that, did it work?
[05:12] <Evanlec> lumpycow, they might, i didnt bother with ndiswrapper, most people seem to use it if they need extended feature (aka WPA)
[05:13] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: DVD/CD burner, >1G ram 2.* processor 3d card
[05:13] <Scunizi> bqmassey, nope that's pretty much everything you need for a basic desktop with software.. from there you add other "stuff", like Xchat, aMSN, Scribus, Inkscape, Amorak etc..
[05:13] <lumpycow> Evanlec: I see, I guess ill just have to use it!! haha.
[05:13] <Snuxoll> How powerful would you want the video card?
[05:14] <MasterShrek> lumpycow, what kind of wifi card is it?
[05:14] <MasterShrek> hello Evanlec
[05:14] <Snuxoll> Moreover, what would you use the system for
[05:14] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: I don't game... But I don't want it to be too out of date in 18 months
[05:14] <Evanlec> lumpycow, i guess if its bothering u that much...signal strength ive seen varies a lot...dont necessarily mean much long as ur connection isnt slow or dropping
[05:14] <bqmassey> Scunizi: are the CDs all live cds that give you the option to install it on the harddrive, or is there a seperate live cd
[05:14] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, hi hi
[05:14] <Snuxoll> Video cards are out of date the day they come out
[05:14] <silent> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-_RwiiVT0
[05:14] <Evanlec> bqmassey, they are one and the same
[05:14] <MasterShrek> Snuxoll, 600 dollars will buy you a nice computer
[05:14] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: I know.. Enough to keep up with beryl
[05:14] <komputes> lol, what you call extended (WPA) I call minimum security
[05:15] <bqmassey> Evanlec, Scunizi: awesome. thanks!
[05:15] <Snuxoll> Beryl isn't that heavy.....I run Compiz Fusion on a RADEON 9500 PRO
[05:15] <Scunizi> bqmassey, all the cd are live unless you purposely get the "Alternate" cd for a text based install.  Will you try to dual boot or take over the entire drive.
[05:15] <macaco> i need help. how i can ubuntu detect my HTC APACHE 6600 pocket pc? i use dmesg to but i don't see USB conecction
[05:15] <akincer> Skip the wireless encryption and just stick your wireless in front of VPN.
[05:15] <Pici> !ot | silent
[05:15] <Gun_Smoke> MasterShrek: esp if you build yourself.. I have always wanted to do it.
[05:15] <Snuxoll> Hell, I can run beryl on a i945
[05:15] <ubotu> silent: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:15] <lumpycow> Evanlec: oh I see, it seem to work alright. that all I was wondering. it does work fine.
[05:15] <komputes> silent: Now how does uptown girl relate to ubuntu
[05:15] <silent> MasterShrek, a good computer is relative to what operating system you run... windows requires significantly more resources than ubuntu
[05:15] <akincer> If you have the extra hardware to do it that is
[05:16] <Snuxoll> So, Gun_Smoke, average desktop use with eyecandy support?
[05:16] <hhp2k> geirha: I fixed that problem with your advice, thanks. But now it's telling me it can't compile without openGL support.. which I thought I had enabled. It's telling me this: http://pastebin.org/4662. Let me know if you're too busy by the way, I really appreciate your help :)
[05:16] <silent> komputes, I was just checking to see if it was a rickroll... my friend sent the link on msn
[05:16] <Evanlec> silent, lol ? why am i waatching billy joel ?
[05:16] <komputes> i dunno either
[05:16] <bqmassey> Scunizi: still deciding that..  i recently corrupted my windows filesystem by accidently dropping the batter out of my laptop when i went to pick it up
[05:16] <hhp2k> geirha: Is there any way to enable OpenGL now, or would I have to reconfigure something to do that?
[05:16] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: Who's to say where beryl will be in 2 years.. just need enough to keep up.
[05:16] <MasterShrek> silent, im quite aware, but if you have 512mb ram vs 2 gigs, or a 1.3ghz processor vs dual core 2.4 or something, it doesnt matter what os you have, its going to make a huge difference
[05:16] <komputes> songs addictive
[05:17] <Evanlec> kind of annoying actually
[05:17] <Snuxoll> OK, but no overly-intense 3D stuff like Crysis?
[05:17] <Gun_Smoke> Nope
[05:17] <komputes> chicks pretty hot too, for an uptown girl
[05:17] <silent> MasterShrek, aye, though both will do an admirable job... depending on what you need
[05:17] <Avenger> What is the best binary downloader for newsgroups?
[05:17] <macaco> i need help. how i can ubuntu detect my HTC APACHE 6600 pocket pc? i use dmesg to but i don't see USB conecction
[05:17] <Scunizi> bqmassey, ouch!
[05:17] <silent> either will work for basic tasks
[05:17] <TheGoodKid> !info pan | Avenger
[05:17] <ubotu> avenger: pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.120-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 781 kB, installed size 3272 kB
[05:17] <bqmassey> Scunizi: and i'm pissed at windows anyways... so i'm thinking about a complete conversion
[05:17] <Snuxoll> Give me five minutes and I'll give you an estimate
[05:17] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: msg me
[05:17] <Snuxoll> Wireless?
[05:17] <MasterShrek> Snuxoll, build from newegg, its probably got the best deals around
[05:18] <Snuxoll> I am building from newegg
[05:18] <Scunizi> bqmassey, If you decide you still need windows later you can always install it in a Virtual Machine and run it in a window insite of Ubuntu.
[05:18] <Avenger> thanks goodkid, i'll check it out
[05:18] <Gun_Smoke> Snuxoll: would save me a trip to newegg
[05:18] <cafuego> Unless you're not in the US.
[05:18] <Snuxoll> I am in the US
[05:18] <Snuxoll> Gun_Smoke: So, you do want Wireless?
[05:18] <geirha> hhp2k: you need to install libgl-dev libglu-dev etc...
[05:18] <Gun_Smoke> sure
[05:18] <bqmassey> Scunizi: i just don't know if i can do that because i dont know of any good iTunes replacements for linux. and i need to work in photoshop every once in a while
[05:19] <MasterShrek> gimp for photoshop, and amarok for itunes
[05:19] <Evanlec> bqmassey, its not that bad trust me
[05:19] <Scunizi> bqmassey, amorak will sync with ipods ,.. with the exception of the newer ipods.
[05:19] <Xenguy> bqmassey: run windows under linux via virtual machines, e.g. Virtualbox or Vmware etc.
[05:19] <hhp2k> geirha: Basically all the OpenGL packages?
[05:19] <Evanlec> bqmassey, i have vista still installed, havent booted it in a month
[05:19] <Gun_Smoke> bqmassey: GIMP is your friend
[05:19] <akincer> Amazon DRM-free music + gtkpod can be a decent replacement
[05:19] <Snuxoll> Vista FTL
[05:19] <Xenguy> bqmassey: but only if you must :-)
[05:19] <Snuxoll> Rhythmbox > GTKPod
[05:19] <bqmassey> MasterShrek: i can't stand GIMP.. too much experience with photoshop
[05:19] <geirha> hhp2k: the development packages at least, but they probably depend on all the rest of the gl packages, so ... yes :)
[05:20] <Snuxoll> I love GIMP.....I just wish it had layer styles...
[05:20] <akincer> Rhytmbox = how many times can you lock my sound up today?
[05:20] <akincer> at least for me
[05:20] <Snuxoll> akincer: Try Banshee then
[05:20] <Scunizi> bqmassey, try gimpshop, it's gimp where the menu's have been rearranged to mimic photoshop
[05:20] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, im gonna have to agree with massey on the gimp, find it irrtating coming from photoshop
[05:20] <MasterShrek> akincer, use audacious
[05:20] <Snuxoll> If that doesn't work, try Amarok
[05:20] <bqmassey> are those VM things free?
[05:20] <Evanlec> Scunizi, no shit? been wonderin about that
[05:20] <akincer> with Xen yes
[05:20] <MasterShrek> i dont do much image editing or anything, so it works for the little that i do
[05:20] <Scunizi> bqmassey, VM is free..
[05:20] <Snuxoll> Gun_Smoke, check your PM's
[05:20] <Evanlec> bqmassey, everything with ubuntu is free
[05:20] <Gun_Smoke> Never seen photoshop.. Only know GIMP... And I don't do much
[05:21] <Evanlec> Gun_Smoke, okay you've never seen photoshop? i find that hard to believe but, we're comin from two different worlds then
[05:21] <Scunizi> bqmassey, I currently have a dual boot with winxp and run win2kpro in a VM inside of my Ubuntu for work.. the xp install is just for games.
[05:21] <MasterShrek> Snuxoll, you need to be regged to send pm's, just so u konw
[05:21] <noor> oh man ff8 theme song rox
[05:21] <bqmassey> i just like that itunes keeps my ipod firmware up-to-date and syncs automatically
[05:21] <Snuxoll> I am regged
[05:22] <Snuxoll> I never get on IRC without nickserv
[05:22] <Scunizi> bqmassey, nice feature, but they lock you in.
[05:22] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, just cuz the firmware is newer doesnt make it better
[05:22] <MasterShrek> !latest
[05:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:22] <akincer> Make no mistake: as Linux market share grows, Apple WILL release iTunes for Linux.
[05:22] <hhp2k> geirha: Selecting some lib packages requires me to uninstall nvidia-glx.. I definitely don't want to do that :\
[05:22] <MasterShrek> akincer, i bet they will, it would only make sense for them to
[05:22] <akincer> Especially when Amazon.com releases their software for Linux
[05:22] <Evanlec> Scunizi, u using VMware or virtualbox ?
[05:22] <komputes> steve1: wow new wolf sux, sorry for the blinded recommendation did you get your game to work
[05:22] <geirha> hhp2k: hm, which packages is that?
[05:22] <JD_> Are there any programmers in here? I'm trying to find a Java compiler...
[05:22] <hhp2k> geirha: Selecting glide liib packages for opengl makes this happen. Do I need glide?
[05:23] <Scunizi> Evanlec, VMWare Server.
[05:23] <geirha> hhp2k: it should be enough to just selecting the libgl*-dev packages
[05:23] <MasterShrek> JD_, try javac if you have it installed already
[05:23] <akincer> VMWare ESX rocks
[05:23] <Evanlec> bqmassey, you will be able to sync your itunes on ubuntu np
[05:23] <hhp2k> geirha: Okay. We'll see what happens
[05:23] <MasterShrek> else u need jdk
[05:23] <MasterShrek> akincer, esx is pretty sexy, but not for personal use
[05:23] <akincer> No, of course not
[05:23] <Scunizi> akincer, is ESX GPL'd or something similar?
[05:23] <Evanlec> Scunizi, ever try vbox? i heard it was faster...which means a lot when it comes to virtual machines in my opinion
[05:23] <CheeseGardener> if I download the beta of 7.10, will I still be able to update to the full 7.10 when it's released on the 18th, from the beta?
[05:23] <thekernel> #ubuntu-mx
[05:23] <bqmassey> Scunizi: does running windows in a VM inside Ubuntu work well?  windows still responsive and no major errors?
[05:23] <akincer> No, it isn't
[05:23] <hhp2k> geirha: Woah, now it's telling me it's going to remove xorg.. jeez
[05:23] <MasterShrek> vbox is good i guess, i use qemu qith kvm
[05:23] <Snuxoll> VBox is the best VM software out there
[05:24] <MasterShrek> vbox is built of qemu i guess
[05:24] <MasterShrek> can vbox take advantage of kvm?
[05:24] <macaco> please help how synchronize ubuntu in my pocket pc HTC Apache 6600
[05:24] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, you will have the full release in your panel ;p
[05:24] <Snuxoll> VBox does use kernel acceleration, yes MasterShrek, however not through KVM or KQEMU
[05:24] <Scunizi> Evanlec, bqmassey .. VMWare runs win2kpro just as fast as if it was insalled on it's own machine.. no problems whatever with speed.
[05:24] <CheeseGardener> Evanlec, what do you mean I will have the full release in my panel?
[05:24] <hhp2k> geirha: De-selected xorg for uninstallation. Installing other packages now
[05:24] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, kvm?
[05:25] <geirha> hhp2k: hm... I see there's a libglu1-xorg-dev, you probably don't need that one
[05:25] <MasterShrek> kernel virtual machine
[05:25] <MasterShrek> !kvm
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <akincer> Scunizi:VMware isn't GPL'ed. At least not their own secret sauce. It is built on an old Red Hat version
[05:25] <twiple> bqmassey: I run a WindowsXP in VMware Server inside Ubuntu and it works very well
[05:25] <Evanlec> Scunizi, well okay but that all depends on what ur using it for, of course not games
[05:25] <MasterShrek> !info kvm
[05:25] <ubotu> kvm: Full virtualization on x86 hardware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:16-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 474 kB, installed size 1440 kB
[05:25] <bqmassey> Scunizi, twiple: would iTunes be able to access/update my iPod if it was running in a VM?
[05:25] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yes
[05:25] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, is that a replacement for vmware ?
[05:25] <Scunizi> Evanlec, that's why I have a dual boot.. for games.. win2k is just for accessing some work programs that need windows including some websites.
[05:26] <macaco> please help how synchronize ubuntu in my pocket pc HTC Apache 6600
[05:26] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, qemu is the actual program, kvm is a kernel module that makes it run smoother
[05:26] <Scunizi> bqmassey, yes.. if windows is running in a VM it doesn't know it at all..
[05:26] <CheeseGardener> Evanlec, what do you mean I will have the full release in my panel?
[05:26] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, i mean the answer to your question is yes
[05:27] <MasterShrek> twiple, vmware is good, very easy to use, but when its not in use, its still got processes running, which tends to slow things down, maybe not to the point where you would notice it right away, but if u arent using vmware, theres no sense for vmware services to be running
[05:27] <Scunizi> bqmassey, also you don't have to go through the pain of loading motherboard drivers, video drivers, usb drivers etc..
[05:27] <CheeseGardener> Evanlec, is the beta fairly stable now?  I heard it was risky to update.  Or is it mostly finished, and waiting to be released?
[05:27] <bqmassey> Scunizi, MasterShrek: that's pretty crazy... if I could photoshop and use iTunes while in ubuntu...  i have no reason to install xp.. I don't game much anymore
[05:27] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, what would u recommend for running winxp?
[05:27] <Scunizi> bqmassey, there you go!  Time to convert!
[05:27] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yep, i use ms visual studio on my xp vm
[05:27] <Evanlec> CheeseGardener, it will be release on the 18th...im just gonna wait, only 1 more week
[05:27] <akincer> bqmassey, that time is fast approaching
[05:27] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, virtualbox
[05:28] <hhp2k> geirha: And we have life! =D Thanks for your help.
[05:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, sweet, i think im going to try that, running photoshop thru wine makes me want to throw things
[05:28] <MasterShrek> CheeseGardener, it should be ok now, im running just fine
[05:28] <bqmassey> Scunizi, MasterShrek: when you use a VM.. do you install XP on it's own partition and then run it in ubuntu? how's that work?
[05:28] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i hear ya there haha
[05:28] <luis> hello all
[05:28] <luis> does anyone know if I can put music into my ipod in ubuntu?
 In the latest version of VMware Server  you can use a USB device, but I am not sure iPod can work well.
[05:28] <Scunizi> bqmassey, I recently reinstalled xp on a machine and it took about 2.5 hrs start to finish with all the drivers. Of Course that included 13 reboots during updates.
[05:28] <akincer> luis: yes you absolutely can
[05:29] <luis> woot
[05:29] <macaco> please help how synchronize ubuntu in my pocket pc HTC Apache 6600
[05:29] <luis> with what programme?
[05:29] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, it makes a virual hard drive, just a file or series of files on your hard drive, u can choose how big u want it, usually 8-10 gigs, and in vmware it can be broken up into 2 gig pieces
[05:29] <geirha> hhp2k: \o/
[05:29] <Scunizi> bqmassey, no.. load the VM program and install.. into just a few files
[05:29] <akincer> I've used gtkpod to do it. Others may offer you a "better" one
[05:29] <MasterShrek> luis, amarok
[05:29] <luis> where can I get these?
[05:29] <Scunizi> bqmassey, easy to copy backup etc, even put on another machine.
[05:29] <MasterShrek> luis, sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:29] <luis> do they come bundled with ubuntu? or can someone give me the commands to install them please
[05:30] <_dan_> hi guys, i have this problem with samba: when i mount a directory via sshfs inside a samba share, and then connect to that samba share, samba wont show me the mounted dir. why and how can i fix it
[05:30] <luis> danke
[05:30] <akincer> You can use the command line or the synaptic package manager
[05:30] <adamkili> akincer and luis: is it true amarok and other third party tools don't work with the 6th generation? (the touch, classic, video nanos?)
[05:30] <MasterShrek> i think thats true adamkili
[05:30] <akincer> I've heard it WAS true, but that someone broke through that nonsense
[05:30] <bqmassey> Scunizi, MasterShrek: awesome, thanks for the advice
[05:30] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, ahh whats the package name for virtualbox
[05:30] <luis> omg omg, this thing needs to hurry
[05:30] <macaco> any one here know how i can synchronize my pocket pc
[05:31] <h1st0> Evanlec: there isn't one in ubuntu
[05:31] <luis> I need to get this stuff inyo my ipod quick
[05:31] <luis> lol
[05:31] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, isnt it virtualbox?
[05:31] <h1st0> Evanlec: you have to download the deb from there site
[05:31] <MasterShrek> h1st0, im pretty sure there is
[05:31] <Evanlec> h1st0, i thot for sure
[05:31] <Scunizi> bqmassey, go for it.. the worst that can happen is you decide to reformat and go back to the old way... :(
[05:31] <h1st0> !virtualbox
[05:31] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[05:31] <luis> master shrek
[05:31] <MasterShrek> hmm
[05:31] <MasterShrek> luis
[05:31] <h1st0> Evanlec: MasterShrek see
[05:31] <adamkili> ya i knew someone would crack the DRM crap but still, just wondering.
[05:31] <luis> and after I install amarok, it'll be available from  the toolbar?
[05:31] <MasterShrek> ok, i believe you h1st0
[05:31] <h1st0> !ipod > luis
[05:31] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:32] <akincer> adamkili:you would obviously want to do some testing to verify
[05:32] <MasterShrek> should be luis
[05:32] <h1st0> You just download the deb and double click it its a painless process
[05:32] <luis> ok, danke schon
[05:32] <macaco> any one here know how i can synchronize my pocket pc  PM please
[05:32] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, is there a way to have vbox use an existing windows installation, like a "thin" installation sorta
[05:32] <h1st0> There are how ever virtual box packages in gutsy
[05:32] <Evanlec> h1st0, gotta be kiddin me! argh
[05:32] <MasterShrek> h1st0, maybe thats what i was thinking of, i am running gutsy
[05:33] <adamkili> akincer: except I've never had or plan on getting a ipod cause there's no music subscription service
[05:33] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i think u can use a physical partition, it may mess with trying to boot that partition later tho
[05:33] <h1st0> Evanlec: you can just download the deb from their site its  a small package and it allows for easy removal
[05:33] <h1st0> Evanlec: its a pita to set up with the hardware changing etc...
[05:33] <bqmassey> Scunizi: lol yea.. out of curiousity.. if i install xp on a seperate partition is there any way to boot it while inside of unbuntu?
[05:33] <h1st0> Evanlec: I've seen howtos online on how to do it though.
[05:33] <komputes> Question, anyone know an application that will prompt me if an application tries to connect to the net!
[05:33] <akincer> admakili: If you want an iPod, but not their music store, Amazon.com is selling DRM-free music now. I've used it and it works great if you purchase one song at a time
[05:34] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yes, but its not recommended
[05:34] <Evanlec> h1st0, really? thin install not so easy then?
[05:34] <bqmassey> MasterShrek: why's that?
[05:34] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, its easy to do, but not really smart
[05:34] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, why noot?
[05:34] <chetnick> you guys any good action games for linux?
[05:34] <h1st0> Evanlec: because the hardware on the virtual machine will be different than the actual hardware in yoru pc
[05:34] <luis> ahhhh verdammt
[05:34] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, bqmassey when the vm loads it, its different hardware that windows sees, therefore it needs to load different drivers and such each time, and we all know how windows deals with change
[05:34] <luis> this thing is still unpacking
[05:35] <bqmassey> MasterShrek: oh, alright.. that makes sense
[05:35] <Evanlec> chetnick, enemy-territory or quake 4
[05:35] <h1st0> Evanlec: http://kimchimik.humandroids.net/2007/10/02/how-to-run-virtualbox-using-a-physical-partition-using-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/
[05:35] <MasterShrek> chetnick, saurbraten
[05:35] <chetnick> thanks for advise
[05:35] <chetnick> will try it
[05:35] <chetnick> :)
[05:35] <luis> it's installed, tahnks master shrek
[05:35] <MasterShrek> sauerbraten**
[05:35] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yea that does sound like a nightmare, it could then screw up booting the actual windows partition?
[05:35] <akincer> Isn't there a Quake3 version for Linux too?
[05:35] <komputes> Utility that warns you when an app requires WAN access? Anyone?
[05:36] <h1st0> Evanlec: aparently you can create a seperate hardware profile to avoid problems
[05:36] <macaco> any one here know how i can synchronize my pocket pc  PM please
[05:36] <geirha> chetnick: some windows games will work too, using wine. if you search for the game at http://appdb.winehq.com , you can see how well it works
[05:36] <MasterShrek> it could Evanlec, it may not, but it could
[05:36] <chetnick> well i install CS
[05:36] <macaco> No one help me :(
[05:36] <chetnick> but no sound
[05:36] <chetnick> and cat fix it
[05:36] <chetnick> cant*
[05:36] <akincer> macaco:I've tried getting a pocket pc syncing. I'd rather have tobasco sauce poured in my eyes than try to work through that nightmare. There is allegedly some people working on that. Don't hold your breath though
[05:36] <h1st0> Evanlec: although the link I gave you doesn't explain how to create a seperate hardware profile but that is pretty much a must if you read that page.
[05:37] <chetnick> dont know what is going on
[05:37] <h1st0> !sound > chetnick
[05:37] <chetnick> with that audio on CS over Wine
[05:37] <silent> I love how people use the ubotu flags... like sound is always simple
[05:37] <h1st0> chetnick: audio works fine it maybe that you have to configure wine's sound secion.  Try hitting alt+f2 and launching winecfg
[05:37] <macaco> :(
[05:37] <Evanlec> h1st0, i have a vista installation, he claims on that page that vista doesnt allow u to create hardware profiles...that ture?
[05:37] <geirha> chetnick: have you checked the CS page at appdb.winehq.org? might be some bug reports on that
[05:38] <h1st0> Evanlec: I have no idea about vista
[05:38] <chetnick> tired various combinations on the winecfg audio settings
[05:38] <chetnick> nothing seems to work
[05:38] <akincer> macaco:I did actually get some communication going, but could never make anything of it
[05:38] <h1st0> chetnick: try asking in #winehq
[05:38] <chetnick> ok
[05:38] <chetnick> thansk
[05:38] <chetnick> thanks*
[05:38] <h1st0> !enter > chetnick
[05:39] <macaco> well thx for you time akincer
[05:39] <macaco> bye all
[05:39] <akincer> no problem
[05:39] <akincer> later
[05:39] <bqmassey> I assume running windows in a VM would require activating windows within the VM, correct?
[05:40] <akincer> If you already have a valid windows image, use P2V and you won't
[05:40] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, yes
[05:40] <Evanlec> akincer, p2v? ;o
[05:40] <h1st0> bqmassey: yes unless you use some hacked version such as tinyxp
[05:40] <komputes> so, any replacement for ZoneAlarm on linux?
[05:40] <akincer> or so I've heard
[05:40] <h1st0> !virus | komputes
[05:40] <ubotu> komputes: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:40] <h1st0> !firewall | komputes
[05:40] <ubotu> komputes: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:40] <h1st0> sry
[05:40] <Evanlec> h1st0, i have the vista install...can i transfer license from it to my vm?
[05:40] <komputes> no i wanted the popup
[05:41] <h1st0> Evanlec: I no nothing about vista sry.
[05:41] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, no probably not, but if u have an xp disc, i can give u a key...
[05:41] <akincer> Evanlec: Have you tried p2v and it didn't work?
[05:41] <komputes> you know Your Program is trying to access the internet (yes/no)
[05:41] <Evanlec> komputes, lol...firestarter works fine...but u dont really need a firewall for ubuntu
[05:41] <komputes> i want to restrict certain apps from using the net
[05:41] <Evanlec> akincer, no i dont even know what p2v is
[05:41] <MasterShrek> komputes, i know what you mean, but ive never found anything like that in linux, and u really dont need it
[05:41] <h1st0> !piracy > MasterShrek
[05:41] <bqmassey> i'm just wondering if I could activate my copy since i've already done it on my machine...
[05:41] <akincer> Physical to Virtual
[05:41] <MasterShrek> =D
[05:41] <bqmassey> and it will think the hardware is different
[05:41] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, oh i can get hacked keys no problem lol
[05:42] <komputes> actually, i do need it
[05:42] <Avenger> i know this is gonna sound stupid because i'm really new to ubuntu but how do you find out how much hard drive space there is in the GUI?
[05:42] <komputes> thats why i asked
[05:42] <MasterShrek> !piracy > Evanlec
[05:42] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:42] <h1st0> bqmassey: read what people are saying about p2v
[05:42] <Evanlec> yea yea
[05:42] <Evanlec> sry
[05:42] <MasterShrek> lol
[05:42] <Evanlec> hey atleast its just pirating windows!
[05:42] <komputes> so hw do you restrict an app internet use.
[05:42] <MasterShrek> Avenger, there shold be somthing under system>administration
[05:42] <h1st0> komputes: read the message from ubotu about iptables
[05:42] <oli_> Anyone here know how to clone a stereo audio source to the rear speakers?
[05:42] <MasterShrek> Avenger, but if you type: df     in a terminal it will tell you also
[05:43] <Frogzoo> Avenger: if you add a 'system monitor' applet to your toolbar, you can right click it to open it & select file systems
[05:43] <Avenger> system monitor works
[05:43] <Evanlec> h1st0, is p2v only for vmware?
[05:43] <Avenger> thanks guys!
[05:43] <h1st0> Evanlec: dunno never used it.
[05:44] <komputes> h1st0:I don't want to block the IP, I want to restrict Application network access
[05:44] <Avenger> ok one more question and then i'm done.  Can PAN be used to download .rar files?
[05:44] <Evanlec> komputes, zonealarm and those apps are terrible in my opinion, linux networking is usually a little more raw, ur gonna be blocking ports and setting rules yourself
[05:44] <MasterShrek> komputes, just close the program, problem solved, programs dont stay open like in windows
[05:44] <Evanlec> Avenger, u can use anything to download .rar files...and u can use 7zip to extract them, for free
[05:45] <Avenger> from a newsgroup server.
[05:45] <komputes> how do you set rule : Program X do not connect to outside internet
[05:45] <Evanlec> komputes, i would try Firestarter
[05:45] <komputes> k
[05:45] <Evanlec> !firestarter | komputes
[05:45] <ubotu> komputes: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:45] <Evanlec> oops
[05:45] <Evanlec> i meant
[05:45] <twiple> Avenger: yes, there are many softwares can extract .rar files.
[05:45] <Evanlec> !info | firestarter
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <Evanlec> oops bah
[05:45] <Evanlec> !info firestarter | komputes
[05:45] <ubotu> komputes: firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 396 kB, installed size 1920 kB
[05:45] <Avenger> any tutorials on the net work d/l files from a newsgroup server in Ubuntu?
[05:46] <komputes> Ya IP tables are IP based, I need Apptable, lol
[05:46] <Avenger> for*
[05:46] <Evanlec> Avenger, im sure there are hundreds
[05:46] <twiple> Avenger: 7-ZIP is a open source software.
[05:46] <Avenger> Google...here I come!
[05:46] <MasterShrek> Avenger, search in synaptic
[05:46] <Frogzoo> komputes: sys -> admin -> login window -> remote - x disabled
[05:46] <joseph> I think I must be crazy running a triple boot system with Vista, Ubuntu and PCLinux OS
[05:46] <ubuntu> is anyone else having problems connecting to a network when setting up newly installed ubuntu?
[05:46] <Evanlec> newsgroups? those are like as old as email
[05:47] <Avenger> well i have the .nzb file, i just can't figure out how to import it into an app
[05:47] <Evanlec> linux was designed around e-mail lol
[05:47] <MasterShrek> joseph, its not what i would call 'sane' lol
[05:47] <komputes> frogzoo: not all apps just one of them
[05:47] <Evanlec> joseph, how do u like PCLOS? i have vista nd ubuntu...
[05:47] <komputes> think firestarter may work
[05:47] <akincer> Evanlec: I'm not sure. Looking into it
[05:47] <MasterShrek> i dont know why pclinuxos is #1 on distrowatch
[05:48] <Avenger> <3 Linux
[05:48] <jonny> is anyone else having problems connecting to a network when setting up newly installed ubuntu?
[05:48] <Avenger> hellanzb works great
[05:48] <twiple> joseph: I have Vista on my laptop and I run Ubuntu in VMware Server.
[05:49] <joseph> Well master shrek one thing it handles my wireless when no other distro would
[05:49] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i dunno either, they aggressively promote it, ever read the pclos magazine?
[05:49] <geirha> komputes: have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80428
[05:49] <AncientRelic> Just got a new laptop, Compaq F730US GeForce 6100 Chipset, the LiveCD doesn't boot
[05:50] <Frogzoo> jonny: hardly - what seems to be your problem?
[05:50] <Evanlec> joseph, u tried ndiswrapper ?
[05:50] <MasterShrek> no Evanlec
[05:50] <akincer> jonny: my network card will NOT auto enable on boot.  Xenix. Go for nostalgia
[05:52] <jonny> auto ath0
[05:52] <jonny> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[05:52] <jonny> auto wlan0
[05:52] <Evanlec> AncientRelic, really? i heard otherwise in #linux
[05:52] <Frogzoo> !pastebin | jonny
[05:52] <ubotu> jonny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:52] <jonny> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[05:52] <AncientRelic> akincer: Coherent
[05:52] <jonny> iface eth0 inet static
[05:52] <jonny> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:52] <jonny> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:53] <jonny> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:53] <jonny> auto eth0
[05:53] <Frogzoo> oh god.
[05:53] <bqmassey> will the new version of Ubuntu have all of the effects that are in this vid:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w
[05:53] <jonny> noobs
[05:53] <AncientRelic> Evanlec: ;)
[05:53] <jonny> lol
[05:53] <Evanlec> !pastebin | jonny
[05:53] <Frogzoo> jonny: not in channel - you spam everyone else out
[05:53] <Evanlec> bqmassey, yes
[05:53] <akincer> Never messed with Coherent
[05:53] <jonny> !pastebin auto lo
[05:53] <jonny> iface lo inet loopback
[05:53] <jonny> auto eth1
[05:53] <jonny> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[05:53] <jonny> auto eth2
[05:53] <jonny> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[05:53] <jonny> auto ath0
[05:53] <jonny> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[05:53] <MasterShrek> !ops
[05:53] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:53] <jonny> auto wlan0
[05:53] <jonny> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[05:53] <jonny> iface eth0 inet static
[05:53] <Evanlec> lol shrek
[05:53] <jonny> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:54] <AncientRelic> akincer: or Minix, or Amoeba
[05:54] <bqmassey> Evanlec: i really like the blur, and the circular window switchting
[05:54] <AncientRelic> akincer: or OS-9
[05:54] <Evanlec> bqmassey, oh and its as fun as it looks too
[05:54] <akincer> AncientRelic: I had the pleasure (or pain?) of modifying the memory manager in Minix
[05:54] <rob> jonny, that command does not send something to a pastebin
[05:54] <AncientRelic> oh god, I'm dating myself
[05:54] <bqmassey> Evanlec: :D
[05:54] <rob> !pastebin > jonny
[05:54] <rob> !pastebin | jonny
[05:54] <silent> jonny, that was a very interesting piece of literature. I assume that was /etc/network/interfaces no?
[05:55] <ubotu> jonny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:55] <bqmassey> Evanlec: will they be on the disc, or do you have to add them after install
[05:55] <Evanlec> akincer, it looks like using a physical partition is a pain in the arse, and if i cant game with a vm anyway...why bother? just wanna run photoshop mostly
[05:55] <Evanlec> bqmassey, if u use Gutsy, they come pre-installed
[05:55] <Frogzoo> !gutsy
[05:55] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:55] <Evanlec> lol silent
[05:55] <AncientRelic> any suggestions on getting my liveCD to boot?
[05:55] <joseph> I installed a copy of 7.10 today to see if it works better with wireless
[05:55] <MasterShrek> AncientRelic, put it in your drive and reboot
[05:56] <akincer> Evanlec: I'd say Adobe will release Photoshop for Linux in 2010. Maybe 2009 depending on how Dell, HP and Lenovo box sales go
[05:56] <geirha> AncientRelic: insert it into the coffeecup holder ;)
[05:56] <AncientRelic> MasterShrek: Gee, never would have thought of that ;)
[05:56] <sh> hi
[05:56] <jonny> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40327/
[05:56] <MasterShrek> joseph, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[05:56] <localgod11> ok lil help
[05:56] <Evanlec> AncientRelic, if it really wont boot, you shold probably try the alternate cd
[05:56] <MasterShrek> =P
[05:56] <localgod11> i was intalling VMware
[05:56] <AncientRelic> evanlec: OK I'll download that
[05:56] <geirha> AncientRelic: does it give any error message when you try to boot?
[05:56] <Evanlec> LOL @ AncientRelic
[05:56] <sh> i'm having trouble opening email
[05:56] <localgod11> can anyone help me with VMware
[05:56] <akincer> Coffee cup holder. An oldie but a goodie
[05:56] <akincer> What do you want to know localgod11?
[05:56] <sh> firefox just closes whenever i click a link
[05:56] <localgod11> i installed it using http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Vista_Installation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[05:56] <AncientRelic> akincer: The mouse as a foot pedal is a classic to me
[05:56] <bqmassey> i really hope my computer can handle all of that
[05:56] <Evanlec> oh jesus "trouble opening email" sounds like a windows user problem
[05:57] <akincer> LOL
[05:57] <Evanlec> heh
[05:57] <localgod11> now vista goes TU when i try to boot
[05:57] <localgod11> either in VM or out
[05:57] <akincer> Ahhh, that's outside my realm. I'm an ESX junkie. Not much beyond that
[05:57] <AncientRelic> localgod11: are you sure that's not normal? ;)
[05:57] <MasterShrek> localgod11, sounds about right
[05:57] <localgod11> it worked before
[05:57] <jonny> ok frogzoo it's been pasted
[05:58] <localgod11> whats esx
[05:58] <Evanlec> akincer, yea, or they may never release ps for linux, but running it thru wine...not a big fan of it
[05:58] <silent> Evanlec, I set up a media center pc for watching movies on our TV... she thought linux was going to be complicated... but after a < 1 minute tutorial... "that's it??" "Wow that's really nice... its easier than windows!"
[05:58] <sh> can anyone help
[05:58] <MasterShrek> localgod11, at some point people will realize the one time you try to mess with a windows install, its probably going to destroy it, 90% of the time, thats the case
[05:58] <Avariel> join/ #C
[05:58] <AncientRelic> silent: www.geexbox.org
[05:58] <localgod11> thaaanks
[05:58] <Avariel> join\ #C
[05:58] <geirha> jonny: do you have more than one NIC?
[05:58] <akincer> Evanlec: If the market materializes, they WILL release for it. They'd be stupid not to
[05:58] <MasterShrek> Avariel, /join
[05:58] <localgod11> ok can you tell me how to reinstall it without trashin linux?
[05:58] <jonny> i have wireless as well, but that's not the problem
[05:59] <danroj> hi
[05:59] <Frogzoo> jonny: once you learn to use pastebin & post the url here, I'll take a look
[05:59] <jonny> i've had this problem since warty
[05:59] <Frogzoo> !pastebin | jonny
[05:59] <ubotu> jonny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:59] <MasterShrek> !grub | localgod11
[05:59] <ubotu> localgod11: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:59] <jonny> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40327/
[05:59] <akincer> localgod11: ESX is VMWare's big box enterprise server edition
[05:59] <geirha> Frogzoo: he did paste url to pastebin
[05:59] <danroj> http://danroj.obolog.com
[05:59] <bqmassey> Pentium M 1.6ghz / 512mb RAM / ATI Radeon Mobility 9600 TurboPro       think that will be able to handle all of the effects in 7.10?
[05:59] <MasterShrek> localgod11, you will lose grub after you install windows, but afterwards you can boot your livecd and reinstall grub
[05:59] <Snuxoll> Well, I've done it, I have made the ~$600(before assembly and re-shipping) awesome Ubuntu PC
[06:00] <jonny> took me a minute to learn it.
[06:00] <MasterShrek> bqmassey, it should, only problem u may have is setting up that ati card, but it shouldnt be too bad
[06:00] <adamkili> so, um, I used a hard drive in this one laptop I have to test if another laptop I have works (it does), and I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to get the X server working on the other laptop, but when I took the hard drive back to my other laptop, ran that command again, and got the x server running, compiz effects stopped working. any ideas on how to fix this? i tried instructions to get compiz to work on ubuntu 6.10 (I have 7
[06:00] <adamkili> .04) and they worked when I had version 6.10, but they didn't this time
[06:00] <localgod11> ok so i reinstall vista and use the live to reinstall grub?
[06:00] <cfedde> bqmassey: you'd be surprised how many it does do in comparison to Vista.
[06:00] <akincer> Bed time. Later all
[06:00] <localgod11> how
[06:00] <bqmassey> Snuxoll: what are the components
[06:00] <Evanlec> akincer, lates
[06:00] <geirha> jonny: it could be that the wireless card registers as eth0, while your wired card is eth1
[06:00] <bqmassey> MasterShrek: good to hear
[06:00] <jonny> hmm
[06:00] <Evanlec> bqmassey, yap
[06:00] <geirha> jonny: lshw -class network     in a terminal should display which is which
[06:00] <Frogzoo> jonny: which is your nic, and do you need all those other interfaces there eth1, ath0 etc.?
[06:01] <localgod11> got it
[06:01] <MasterShrek> jonny, also iwconfig will tell you which ones have wireless extensions
[06:01] <Evanlec> bqmassey, linux runs muuuch better on older hardware than windows
[06:01] <ubuntu> test
[06:01] <n08l3J> hello ubuntu folks
[06:01] <Frogzoo> ubuntu: pass conceded
[06:01] <MasterShrek> ubuntu, test passed
[06:01] <Snuxoll> bqmassey: Hold on
[06:01] <localgod11> ok anyone know how to pull this off with vista?http://www.advicesource.org/ubuntu/Run_Existing_Windows_Instalation_On_Ubuntu_With_Vmware_player.html
[06:01] <n08l3J> I have a question, when i try the live CD the wireless connection works
[06:01] <n08l3J> but when i boot up in the system
[06:01] <n08l3J> it doesn't work
[06:01] <MasterShrek> n08l3J, what kind of wireless card?
[06:02] <ubuntu> try for ubuntu ultimate live cd
[06:02] <Evanlec> ubuntu, no do not try for that
[06:02] <jonny> ok pasted the iwconfig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40328/
[06:02] <xcst> !doesn't work frostwire
[06:02] <bqmassey> Evanlec: that hasn't been my experience in the past.. but i've always had it as the last partition on the drive... Suse.. and i probably didn't have everything set up right
[06:02] <Frogzoo> xcst: frostwire works - what's your problem?
[06:02] <jonny> well i've been having this problem for a while...i'll pull the wireless card and try again, but i feel like i've run into this problem minus wireless card
[06:03] <xcst> Frogzoo, my download stops, like for example if im downloading more than 1 file
[06:03] <localgod11> ok better yet how do i stop VM when it hits the BSOD?
[06:03] <Evanlec> bqmassey, well, suffice to say some distros are lighter than others, but most of them can be trimmed and optimized almost infinitely for speed
[06:03] <n08l3J> Its Broadcom
[06:03] <danroj> http://danroj.obolog.com
[06:03] <n08l3J> 440X10/100 Integrated Controller
[06:03] <Frogzoo> jonny: no need to change hardware, but remove the redundant interfaces from the interfaces file - and for the 2nd time, which is your nic you're trying to enable - eth0?
[06:03] <MasterShrek> n00dl3, i think thats wired, but i could be wrong
[06:03] <jarrod_> !nic
[06:03] <bruenig> ubuntu is one of the slower distro, especially in boot time, good jesus allah on boot time
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <bruenig> distros*
[06:04] <n08l3J> lol allah on boot time
[06:04] <jarrod_> what is a nic card
[06:04] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, thats most definitely wired ... 10/100
[06:04] <localgod11> akincer--hello?
[06:04] <jonny> frogzoo, eth0 is the correct and enabled nic
[06:04] <Evanlec> jarrod_, nic card is a network interface card...
[06:04] <bqmassey> Evanlec: yeah, i'm sure that's true... i'm pretty linux-stupid... i could never get anything installed if Yast wouldn't do it
[06:04] <danroj> mira Georgy32
[06:04] <MasterShrek> yea i guess Evanlec i didnt see that, just looked at the 44 part, 43 is wirless
[06:04] <n08l3J> nic card is Intel Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[06:04] <ubuntu> selamat berpuasa
[06:05] <localgod11> does anyone know how to stop VM when it gets an error instead of ahving it reboot?
[06:05] <n08l3J> i m sorry the broadcom is the etherenet port
[06:05] <Frogzoo> jonny: try this instead: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40329/
[06:05] <geirha> jonny: have you set up /etc/resolv.conf with the nameservers?
[06:05] <jarrod_> Evanlec: umbrela term for: ethernet card/ enternal modum etc?
[06:05] <cfedde> bruenig: I've seen some installs that realy take a long time to boot.  But since I've not been in charge of a system that has this problem I've not solved it het.
[06:05] <MasterShrek> n08l3J, im thinking u need firmware, search synaptic for ipw
[06:05] <Evanlec> jarrod_, just ethernet card
[06:05] <localgod11> does anyone know how to stop VM when it gets an error instead of ahving it reboot?
[06:05] <Snuxoll> ~$600 Ubuntu PC: https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.asp?ID=8515907
[06:06] <mikeo2> anyone here have expierence setting up SElinux?
[06:06] <n08l3J> how would i do that MasterShrek
[06:06] <bruenig> cfedde, no, not installs that take a long time to boot (I am not talking about live cd). I mean once it gets installed, makes you cry with its speed.
[06:06] <localgod11> does anyone know how to stop VM when it gets an error instead of ahving it reboot?
[06:06] <bruenig> or lack of speed
[06:06] <jarrod_> Evanlec: is saying "ethernet card" incorrect then?
[06:06] <Evanlec> Snuxoll, link dont work
[06:06] <bruenig> localgod11, human being, we heard you 4 times ago, calm down
[06:06] <Snuxoll> grrr
[06:06] <Evanlec> jarrod_, no either is fine
[06:06] <localgod11> sorry
[06:06] <MasterShrek> n08l3J, im not really sure, ive never done an intel chip before, but that shold help you get started, get the firmware
[06:07] <MasterShrek> localgod11, not really, can u take a screenshot?
[06:07] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: give us the nickel description, should get that in 1 line
[06:07] <coco> hello
[06:07] <n08l3J> hm.... i think i should boot in the ubuntu and login from the desktop
[06:07] <jonny> i think we're good frogzoo.  it's just the mass of unused nics registered in interface file
[06:08] <coco> anyone who can help me with linux
[06:08] <n08l3J> i be back when i am in the ubuntu
[06:08] <MasterShrek> !ask | coco
[06:08] <ubotu> coco: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:08] <MasterShrek> brb
[06:08] <Snuxoll> 2G Ram, 2.2GhZ dual-core CPU, 256MB x1500 video card, nice airflow, wifi card, 160GB HD, DVD burner
[06:08] <bruenig> coco, might try ##linux
[06:08] <azzman> whats up coco
[06:08] <coco> thank you
[06:08] <MasterShrek> Snuxoll, sexy
[06:08] <Avariel>  If a computer has 8 bit addressability, but has an address space of 2^28 memory locations...how do you possibly store a 28 bit address in 8-bit locations ?
[06:08] <coco> i need to delet some files from a NTFS partition
[06:08] <bruenig> !enter
[06:08] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:09] <bruenig> !ntfs
[06:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:09] <Snuxoll> Anyone wanna buy one?  Welcome!
[06:09] <Evanlec> x1500 video card? sounds kinda chincy to me
[06:09] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: not too bad
[06:09] <Evanlec> !ntfs | coco
[06:09] <coco> it wont let me do it because its read only
[06:09] <ubotu> coco: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:10] <garrett__> Is there a php5-xslt package anywhere?
[06:10] <Snuxoll> x1500 is a great budget card
[06:10] <Snuxoll> It runs beryl and most games just fine
[06:10] <Evanlec> i wasnt even aware ati made an x1500
[06:10] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: So's my GeForce 7300GT
[06:10] <Evanlec> sure u got that right?
[06:10] <Snuxoll> I see no need for an Ubuntu machine for a 8600GTS
[06:10] <coco> i can see the partition but it don let me delet anything
[06:10] <Snuxoll> Yes, I am sure Evanlec
[06:10] <localgod11> coco try this http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite.html
[06:10] <AncientRelic> snuxoll: got a link to the card?
[06:10] <Snuxoll> *X1050
[06:10] <Evanlec> true, but...christ atleast i dunno, a gforce 7 series
[06:10] <Snuxoll> Read it wrong
[06:11] <Snuxoll> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814241048
[06:11] <Evanlec> and Snuxoll i would go with nvidia either way, better driver support
[06:11] <garrett__> or is php5+xslt something that has to be compiled manually?
[06:11] <AncientRelic> Evanlec: I actually have Gutsy beta running stable on a X300SE card
[06:11] <coco> ok im very new to UNIX. thank you ill see whats on it
[06:11] <AncientRelic> its improved a lot
[06:11] <Snuxoll> Evanlec: Duh.....I think I picked the ATI card on accident
[06:11] <AJ--> ei guys..need help here... i followd the ubuntu guide in install lamp server.. buy still i cant get my php to work.. apache2 is ok.. wat seems to be the problem???
[06:11] <Evanlec> AncientRelic, well i dont doubt that
[06:11] <Snuxoll> Lemme change it with and NVidia...
[06:12] <Frogzoo> !docs | coco
[06:12] <ubotu> coco: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:13] <decay> Is there a way to do s verbose mode when installing? it freezes at 87%
[06:13] <Frogzoo> AMD will probably make linux drivers for ATI a happening thing but it will need 12 months
[06:13] <MasterShrek> decay, did u check the cd for defects?
[06:13] <bruenig> !alternate | decay
[06:13] <ubotu> decay: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:13] <AJ--> ei guys..need help here... i followd the ubuntu guide in install lamp server.. buy still i cant get my php to work.. apache2 is ok.. wat seems to be the problem???
[06:14] <jonny> thanks for helping out this noob guys, adios
[06:14] <endlessurf> uuid does anyone know anything about this utility?
 !docs | coco
[06:14] <coco> ???
[06:14] <MasterShrek> !uuid
[06:14] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  sudo blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:14] <coco> docs??
[06:14] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130026
[06:15] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: Now that's an entry level Linux card
[06:15] <endlessurf> mastershrek do you know?
[06:15] <coco> i see
[06:15] <Snuxoll> Grr....can't figure out how to make my wishlist public
[06:15] <coco> ADMIN
[06:15] <MasterShrek> endlessurf, its not a utility, its just a way of identifying seperate hard drives and partitions
[06:15] <decay> MasterShrek, no.
[06:15] <decay> bruenig, thanks
[06:16] <Snuxoll> Give me your email if you want to see the machine, I'll send the wishlist then
[06:16] <endlessurf> can it identify usb devices?
[06:16] <MasterShrek> maybe endlessurf
[06:16] <Gun_Smoke> Is it possible to set up a RAID 1 with an external HD?
[06:17] <Snuxoll> I'm trying to get my pc-builder buisiness going here :P
[06:17] <endlessurf> mastershrek you seem to know more about ubuntu, i was wondering if you can look at my post on the forums and try to help me
[06:17] <MasterShrek> whats it about endlessurf
[06:17] <endlessurf> mastershrek i've been trying to get help for over a week with no luck
[06:17] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: you've got PM
[06:18] <ArtVandalae> endlessurf: what's the problem?
[06:18] <Snuxoll> Yes, I can PM
[06:18] <AncientRelic> Snuxoll: you HAVE a PM
[06:18] <endlessurf> mastershrek http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3511924#poststop
[06:18] <Snuxoll> Nope
[06:18] <Joseph> Has anybody tried 7.10 on a Laptop with a Broadcom chipset?
[06:18] <underwatercow> What does it mean when a character in the character map is designated as "<Private Use">?
[06:18] <AncientRelic> joseph: I'm trying it now
[06:18] <Snuxoll> Joseph: My current machine uses a bcm43xx chip
[06:18] <Snuxoll> It runs just fine
[06:19] <Snuxoll> bcm43xx-fwcutter and wl_apsta.o
[06:19] <endlessurf> ArtVandalae http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3511924#poststop
[06:19] <Snuxoll> http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=8516027
[06:19] <Snuxoll> There we go
[06:19] <Snuxoll> That's the $600 Ubuntu machine
[06:19] <Joseph> This is a rereshing touch I put 7.10 on my desktop machine with a linksys card and the wireless worked with no additional effort
[06:20] <endlessurf> mastershrek ArtVandalae it is for a touch screen computer in my car
[06:20] <jtaylor> Is there any way to skip a file system check on bootup?
[06:20] <Snuxoll> jtaylor: Don't use ext2?
[06:20] <Evanlec> jtaylor, probly but they shouldnt happen very often
[06:20] <MasterShrek> endlessurf, im not really sure, ubuntu and usb devices are not friends, at least not for me lol
[06:20] <jtaylor> Snuxoll, its ext3... the drive is fubar... I need to boot once and grab what I can
[06:20] <Joseph> What did they do with the restricted drivers in 7.10
[06:20] <Snuxoll> Modern-linux filesystems whouldn't need file system checks
[06:21] <Snuxoll> *shouldn't.....typ0
[06:21] <bulmer> why not?
[06:21] <LBO_KEN> hello every body
[06:21] <clmbngbkng> Does anybody know how to set up Samba to share an internal hard drive that is formatted with NTFS? I have it setup to share without a password and it keeps on telling me that it's "not accessible" and "You might not have permission to use this network resource."
[06:21] <Miz> http://dpaste.com/22224/  I'm very confused at "ifequal" being obnoxious.
[06:22] <Miz> whoa, wrong channel.
[06:22] <Miz> sorry.
[06:22] <endlessurf> mastershrek yeah i have had the same problems, it works if my touchscreen is the only one plugged in on start up, i just don't want to have to plug in everything else every time i start up my car
[06:22] <underwatercow> why can't I see certain characters in the character map? it shows a bow with hex in it and says "<Private Use>"
[06:22] <underwatercow> box*
[06:22] <cubesis> anyone know what channel i could ask a question about a AMD CPU??
[06:22] <Nikster> im having issues with the 7.10 driver called rt61pci.. it wont connect to my wireless network, but in 7.04 it used just rt61, which worked fine.. how can i load the old driver into 7.10?
[06:22] <logreeval> cubesis: whats the Q?
[06:22] <ChaosParser> cubesis: what kind of question?
[06:23] <ChaosParser> clmbngbkng: It probably wants you to be root.
[06:23] <cubesis> well i have a L1N64-SLI asus board
[06:23] <MasterShrek> Nikster, blacklist the rt61pci and load rt61
[06:23] <cubesis> and i thought when i bought the cpu it came packaged as 2 cpus
[06:23] <endlessurf> mastershrek it's painful too when it has been over 2 weeks of trying to figure it out and 20+ post and M$ will do it just fine
[06:23] <MasterShrek> !blacklist | Nikster
[06:23] <ubotu> Nikster: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[06:23] <cubesis> but it didn't so i only have one, and i seen a couple forums stating you could run just 1
[06:23] <cubesis> but i am scared that i will eff it up
[06:24] <Nikster> MasterShrek: Thanks, ill look into that!
[06:24] <cubesis> its a dual socket board
[06:24] <n08l3J> MasterShrek, I am on a different machine, I was having the problem of connecting to the wirless Network using the intel 3945 Chip
[06:24] <clmbngbkng> Ok, but the odd thing is that I can share multiple external hard drives with no problem. So how do I set it up so it'll think i'm root?
[06:24] <cubesis> you know about opterons??
[06:24] <MasterShrek> yep n00dl3, figure n e thing out?
[06:24] <clmbngbkng> if you dont know its fine
[06:24] <jasons> Hi everyone anyone know what channel for a gnome question?
[06:24] <MasterShrek> jasons, here
[06:24] <ChaosParser> cubesis: My advice would be.... call Asus and ask.
[06:24] <cubesis> yeah good idea
[06:24] <n08l3J> i am in the ubuntu now
[06:24] <cubesis> but its midnight :(
[06:24] <n08l3J> lets see what happen
[06:25] <bqmassey> *yawn*
[06:25] <n08l3J> What the hell, it started working now
[06:25] <cubesis> and i have been waiting a week :(
[06:25] <n08l3J> for some reason didn't want to work before
[06:25] <n08l3J> thats weird
[06:25] <n08l3J> well as its working now, any tips for the general ubuntu system ?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> !tips
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tips - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <mikeo2> anyone know of a good ubuntu friendly tv card?
[06:26] <MasterShrek> nope guess not =P
[06:26] <n08l3J> Bot doesn't know tips
[06:26] <n08l3J> lol
[06:27] <Evanlec> mikeo2, i hear the hauppegauge ones are great
[06:27] <mikeo2> i have the leadtek tv2000xp rm but it hasn't been working consistently in linux lately and breaks every so often
[06:27] <localgod11> ok anyone know how to do a screen cap in Vmware >?
[06:28] <n08l3J> Now I want to configure my sound card, when i click on the volume button, it says that volume control did not find any elements to control
[06:28] <mikeo2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814122221
[06:28] <n08l3J> how should i deal with this problem ?
[06:28] <LBO_KEN> hi all i need help im trying to install ubuntu on my  pc ( masus m2n-mx se , 1 gig ram,) but when i start the cd its loaded then  i get a  x window error,  the ubuntu is the   one that is avalaible to download (i downloaeded it 2 days ago)
[06:28] <LBO_KEN> masus= asus
[06:28] <Evanlec> mikeo2, thats about all i know about tv-cards, sorry ;p
[06:29] <jasons> All the launchers on the desktop are now .desktop files and are text files? I just installed and have been installing stuff like crazy so I don't know how I broke the desktop.
[06:29] <n08l3J> how can i change to the development edition to the release candiate of gusty ?
[06:29] <Evanlec> LBO_KEN, try downloading the alternate install cd and use that
[06:29] <LBO_KEN> ok  what will be the difference  ?  just to be sure
[06:30] <Evanlec> n08l3J, it will update automatically, long as u accept the updates it gives u
[06:30] <Evanlec> LBO_KEN, no difference, just uses a text-based installer
[06:30] <n08l3J> oh ke thanks for tha Evanlec
[06:30] <LBO_KEN> ok
[06:30] <Evanlec> its actually more configurable and better in my opinion
[06:30] <Evanlec> but everyone's gotta have their "liveCD" ooo wow
[06:30] <n08l3J> When i first boot into that, i saw something regarding the non free drivers for my nividia card to enable the 3D effects
[06:31] <n08l3J> but i don't see it anymore.
[06:31] <LBO_KEN> thanks Evanlec
[06:31] <Evanlec> !nvidia | n08l3J
[06:31] <ubotu> n08l3J: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:31] <LBO_KEN> hope it will work fine :-)
[06:31] <localgod11> ok anyone know a program that can open .cab files?
[06:31] <FatalCure> n08l3J: System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[06:31] <n08l3J> How would i know that the new driver is loaded ?
[06:32] <Evanlec> localgod11, i think u can open cab files with anything
[06:32] <n08l3J> oh Thanks FatalCure, You Rock
[06:32] <n08l3J> its downloading something now :P
[06:32] <localgod11> ii tried it no worky
[06:32] <Evanlec> n08l3J, read the guide
[06:32] <Evanlec> localgod11, did u try 7zip?
[06:32] <FatalCure> n08l3J: cool :)
[06:32] <jtaylor_> Is there any way to skip a forced ext3 disk check?   If I could boot once I could get my data off of the LVM drives without having to figure out how to mount them using a rescue CD.  Any way to do this?
[06:32] <n08l3J> I am new to ubuntu, so just a little different things :)
[06:32] <Evanlec> localgod11, search cab under add/remove programs
[06:32] <astro76_> !info cabextract | localgod11
[06:32] <ubotu> localgod11: cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[06:32] <dfk-> hi. i got a new MB (Abit ip35) and the built in NIC isn't working. do I need to recompile kernel or something? i have ubuntu 6.10
[06:32] <FatalCure> !info cabextract | localgod11
[06:33] <FatalCure> astro76_: :)
[06:33] <Evanlec> !network | dfk-
[06:33] <ubotu> dfk-: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:33] <localgod11> i searched nothing came up
[06:34] <dfk-> ubotu it's not wireless just plain on board nic
[06:34] <Evanlec> localgod11, sudo apt-get install cabextract
[06:34] <dfk-> Evanlec even
[06:35] <greenmanspirit> does anyone run a vanilla kernel?
[06:35] <Evanlec> dfk-, why dont u just use feisty or gutsy?
[06:35] <Evanlec> greenmanspirit, i know some ppl do, i was thinkng about it but decided it wasnt worth the trouble
[06:35] <wt8008_> is there a reason you want to run a vanilla kernel?
[06:35] <dfk-> i'll give it a try
[06:36] <Evanlec> i wanted to run it for speed / leanness
[06:36] <greenmanspirit> i wanted to compile 2.6.23 to see how the new cfs works
[06:36] <Evanlec> but having a fairly powerful system, it apparently dont make a whole lotta diff
[06:36] <localgod11> ok got the program still cant get at the file
[06:36] <Evanlec> !info cfs
[06:36] <ubotu> cfs: Cryptographic Filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-17 (feisty), package size 181 kB, installed size 568 kB
[06:36] <Evanlec> oh
[06:36] <Evanlec> have no need for such security
[06:37] <greenmanspirit> i mean completely fair schedular
[06:37] <Evanlec> oh
[06:37] <Evanlec> lol
[06:37] <greenmanspirit> linus replaced 01
[06:37] <Evanlec> yea i heard that was sposed to be pretty good
[06:37] <chetnick> hey guys any good download manager ?
[06:37] <Evanlec> doesnt gutsy have 2.6.22 ?
[06:37] <Evanlec> chetnick, yea, firefox ;)
[06:38] <chetnick> heheh :)
[06:38] <greenmanspirit> I forget which one it has, but i'm guessing its .22
[06:38] <Evanlec> i used downthemall a little, but no point really
[06:38] <mistatwista> i'm having a problem with a bcm4318 wireless card using ndiswrapper
[06:38] <chetnick> Evanlec you cant resume your download with firefox
[06:38] <chetnick> ?
[06:38] <Evanlec> greenmanspirit, im not sure either, is it only in .23 and not .22 ? cuz gutsy comes with .22 i think
[06:38] <[mayh3m] pt> I can't get my desktop to spin like a cube. Whats the problem?!
[06:39] <Evanlec> chetnick, i think u can...depends, but yea there are tons of download managers, just search firefox extensions
[06:39] <mistatwista> when it trys to connect, half the time it wont connect at all, and sometimes i can get it to work by turning off the wireless on the laptop with fn-f3 and turning it back on
[06:39] <greenmanspirit> its just in .23, but there are patch's that let the older kernels use it
[06:39] <riotkittie> [mayh3m] pt:  try #ubuntu-effects for compiz(-fusion)/beryl help
[06:39] <chetnick> ok
[06:39] <localgod11>  !info cfs
[06:39] <ubotu> cfs: Cryptographic Filesystem. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-17 (feisty), package size 181 kB, installed size 568 kB
[06:39] <cubesis> anyone have a Asus L1N64-SLI motherboard??
[06:39] <localgod11> what does  !info cfs mean?
[06:40] <Evanlec> it has the bot spit out info about cfs
[06:40] <G_Nine> <IP_ADDRESS> (gutsy)
[06:41] <localgod11> ok so i got the program to open the cab file but it still wont open
[06:41] <localgod11> archive manager doesnt recogize it
[06:42] <Nikster> any way i can get the old feisty rt61 driver into gutsy? cause the one in gutsy doesent work for me
[06:42] <cubesis> can anyone help me with a server pc question? i mean anyone that has worked with dual socket boards
[06:43] <Evanlec> localgod11, look for the program in your application menu
[06:43] <localgod11> i used sudo apt-get install cabextract
[06:43] <localgod11> said it already was there
[06:43] <localgod11> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:43] <Evanlec> it is there, but u have to open the cab file using the cabextract program
[06:44] <digitalsky> hello all.
[06:44] <goalieca> anyone else getting /sbin/modprobe abnormal exit.. SATA race condition with new kernel??
[06:44] <Evanlec> or do 'man cabextract'
[06:44] <goalieca> having to use feisty's instead of gutsy's
[06:44] <digitalsky> i'm new to kubuntu and was wondering if someone here could help me understand memory issues
[06:44] <localgod11> where would i find the program?
[06:44] <mistatwista> anyone know why a wireless driver would work perfectly sometime and hafto be coaxed into working other times(ndiswrapper, and bcm4318)
[06:44] <DShepherd> !info cabextract
[06:44] <ubotu> cabextract: a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[06:45] <localgod11> i have it i just cant find it
[06:45] <DShepherd> localgod11, you need to enable the universe repository
[06:45] <n2diy> digitalsky: if you want an answer, you have to ask a question.
[06:45] <digitalsky> i'm running the latest kubuntu just as a server. i have configured a LAMP server + gallery2 with only a few pics. For some reason i see my memory (using "top") usage is near 1GB (I only have 1GB)...
[06:45] <digitalsky> almost 100%
[06:45] <Newbuntu2> Hello
[06:45] <Evanlec> mistatwista, cuz that is the nature of hardware and driver support
[06:45] <localgod11> i used man cabextrac and it seems to have sprung something to life
[06:45] <Buicklesaber> hi
[06:46] <digitalsky> right now it's not bad, after i restarted: Mem:   1035828k total,   462808k used,   573020k free,    83836k buffers
[06:46] <mistatwista> so, there's nothing I can do about it until there's better support?
[06:46] <Nikster> can anyone help me install the old rt61 driver into gutsy? cause gutsys rt61pci doesent work for me.. it wont connect
[06:46] <localgod11> any ideas where it put the files
[06:46] <Evanlec> mistatwista, have u looked?
[06:46] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop, but it has trouble reading the live cd (I tried multiple downloads/cd burns). Is there a way to but the live CD on a USB drive?
[06:46] <greenmanspirit> man i just saw that there was an ext4 file system, anyone know anything about it?
[06:46] <mistatwista> yes, found nothing thus far.
[06:46] <n2diy> digitalsky: and what is the problem?
[06:46] <digitalsky> the biggest user seems to be 4632 mysql     15   0  125m  19m 5456 S  0.0  2.0   0:05.93 mysqld
[06:46] <digitalsky> , but that's still a far cry from 1GB
[06:46] <digitalsky> i'm just wondering what's using up all the memory
[06:47] <bqmassey> digitalsky: probably windows
[06:47] <digitalsky> windows?
[06:47] <digitalsky> what do u mean?
[06:47] <Evanlec> mistatwista, there are a shitload of wireless cards based on bcm4318 , there's probably hundreds of pages of information about how to install those drivers on linux
[06:47] <n2diy> digitalsky: so there isn't a problem, just a concern over memory usage?
[06:47] <digitalsky> yup
[06:47] <localgod11> ok so i used man cabextrac  any idea it did something but i cant find the files
[06:47] <Buicklesaber> anybody ever of desktop launchers changing to .desktop files in gnome?
[06:47] <DShepherd> digitalsky, run top and sort my memory usage
[06:48] <digitalsky> how do i sort by mem usage?
[06:48] <LBO_KEN> wb Bhaal
[06:48] <n2diy> digitalsky: Ok, it isn't broke. And the memory you bought is being well used. :)
[06:48] <Evanlec> !info htop | digitalsky
[06:48] <ubotu> digitalsky: htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 172 kB
[06:48] <mistatwista> Evanlec, i have the driver installed, but it seems to have a mind of its own when connecting...sometimes it works perfectly
[06:48] <astro76> digitalsky, that's normal, linux keeps stuff cached in ram and frees it when needed, basically taking advantage of that ram you paid good money for, type "free -m" to check
[06:49] <Evanlec> mistatwista, are u using encryption?
[06:49] <DShepherd> localgod11, cabextract <file.cab> #that should extract the cab file. I am assuming that's what you want to do
[06:49] <Joseph> If I have a tripple boot system with windows and 2 linux distros where do I find the menu.lst file if I'm using the grub loader
[06:49] <digitalsky> hmm that's what i hoped is happening
[06:49] <Frogzoo> digitalsky: if you run top/htop - hit M
[06:49] <_Office> ok anyone no y unbuntu has drop to 18 mo support on 7.10?
[06:49] <digitalsky> i'm used to windows which always shows a lot of mem still available
[06:49] <localgod11> where will it extract to?
[06:50] <FatalCure> digitalsky: Linux will use memory for disk cache if it's available.  Have a look at the output of "free".  The second row of numbers doesn't include buffer/cache usage
[06:50] <n2diy> digitalsky: What apps. are you running?
[06:50] <Frogzoo> _Office: think 18 mo is standard for non LTS?
[06:50] <riotkittie> Joseph: did you look in /boot/grub/
[06:50] <digitalsky> free: Mem:          1011        464        546          0         82        252
[06:50] <cdm10> _Office: non-lts releases are always supported for only 18 mo
[06:50] <mistatwista> Evanlec, yes, wpa
[06:50] <digitalsky> oooo  top (M) helps
[06:50] <idefix> so, about the mailto...
[06:50] <digitalsky> where can i paste my results?
[06:50] <idefix> it has been scrolled out of existence!
[06:51] <FatalCure> !pastebin | digitalsky
[06:51] <ubotu> digitalsky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <n2diy> ! paste | digitalsky
[06:51] <Evanlec> mistatwista, okay then using ndiswrapper is a must , and thats probably where your problem lies
[06:51] <digitalsky> pastebin
[06:51] <cdm10> it wasn't THAT big a paste.
[06:51] <_Office> Frogzoo, can I ask then y is 6.10 being supported in tell 2011
[06:52] <cdm10> _Office: It isn't.
[06:52] <digitalsky> umm i just pasted in ubuntu pastebin
[06:52] <cdm10> _Office: maybe 6.06 is, but not 6.10
[06:52] <n2diy> cdm10: he wants to paste top
[06:52] <FatalCure> cdm10: no, he asked -> 14:49 < digitalsky> where can i paste my results?
[06:52] <digitalsky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40330/
[06:52] <sadmin> hey guys am feeling u ubuntu system slow
[06:52] <cdm10> n2diy: ah.
[06:52] <riotkittie> theyre not !pasting him for that. he wanted to know where he would paste the output of top
[06:52] <sadmin> whay i need to check
[06:52] <sadmin> any ideA
[06:52] <cdm10> FatalCure: ok, sorry, missed that.
[06:52] <digitalsky> wow apache is taking up a lot
[06:52] <FatalCure> cdm10: s'cool, np :)
[06:52] <Joseph> I looked in the boot/grub on the last install of linux and the boot/grub of the previous version and can't find the menu.lst it is using
[06:52] <Frogzoo> !lts | _Office
[06:52] <ubotu> _Office: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[06:53] <Newbuntu2> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop, but it has trouble reading the live cd (I tried multiple downloads/cd burns). Is there a way to but the live CD on a USB drive?
[06:53] <digitalsky> hmm i don't even use xorg (i never log on with GUI, just ssh). is there a way to turn it off?
[06:53] <alecw2> How do I remove unused dependencies from my ubuntu system?
[06:53] <cdm10> alecw2: sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:54] <G_Nine> is your support expiring in 18 months?  grab a snicker
[06:54] <_Office> Frogzoo, thanks Due we no when the next LTS version will be release?
[06:54] <digitalsky> were u guys able to see my paste?
[06:54] <mistatwista> Evanlec, thanks...going to compile the new version of ndiswrapper and hope that works
[06:54] <astro76> _Office, 8.04 will be lTS
[06:54] <riotkittie> _Office: april
[06:55] <Evanlec> mistatwista, k, good luck
[06:55] <riotkittie> good luck, mistatwista :D
[06:55] <n08l3J> How can i configure or test my sound card with different drivers available ?
[06:55] <G_Nine> there is a ubuntu server edition,...
[06:55] <n2diy> digitalsky: nope, you have to copy and post the URL here.
[06:55] <alecw2> cdm10: Thanks. This is what it's telling me:   libqt4-core libqt4-gui libungif4g linux-headers-2.6.22-13
[06:55] <alecw2>   linux-headers-2.6.22-13-generic
[06:55] <digitalsky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40330/
[06:55] <Frogzoo> _Office: we don't - expect gutsy+1/2
[06:55] <_Office> Thanks again I wound update servers tell 8.04 then
[06:55] <cdm10> alecw2: well, if those are unneeded, it'll remove them.
[06:55] <_Office> IC thankds
[06:55] <_Office> thanks
[06:56] <alecw2> cdm10: Thanks!
[06:56] <digitalsky> G_Nine were u talking to me?
[06:56] <n08l3J> anyone with the help regarding my soundcard ?
[06:56] <Joseph> I am half tempted to try 7.10 on my laptop which uses the broadcom chipset since it worked on the desktop but it uses the ralink chipset
[06:56] <sandra> cew_15
[06:56] <cdm10> Joseph: Wait 6 days :)
[06:56] <alecw2> I'm looking for a simple animation program. I just want to animate simple things... stick figures, ect. Nothing the size of Flash. Can someone suggest an app?
[06:56] <digitalsky> n2diy: are you able to see my link? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40330/
[06:56] <alecw2> !animation > alecw2
[06:56] <sandra> #surabaya
[06:56] <ChaosParser> Joseph: It works on my broadcom wireless on my notebook.
[06:57] <G_Nine> freedom of information
[06:57] <A_is_A> Ok, I've updated to gutsy, and gparted wil not start, and i cannot mount my sdb1
[06:57] <Joseph> Chaos did you have to do ndiswrapper or anything?
[06:57] <riotkittie> A_is_A: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support, please
[06:57] <ChaosParser> Joseph:  Nope.
[06:57] <A_is_A> thnx
[06:57] <n2diy> digitalsky: yes, I just brought it up. Nothing is using more than 3% of your memory, whats the problem?
[06:57] <Joseph> Which Broadcom?
[06:57] <Joseph> Or more like which laptop
[06:58] <ChaosParser> Joseph: The dreaded Dell 1390 POS.
[06:58] <Joseph> I have a HP Ze series
[06:58] <sandra> join surabaya
[06:58] <steve__> I'm doing the distro upgrade to 7.10 and it seems to have frozen on "configuring wvdial". It's been sitting there for about half an hour now. Is it hosed or what?
[06:58] <ChaosParser> Joseph: Dell 1390 WLAN MiniPCI is the name of the card, but it;s in an Acer Aspire 5570z
[06:58] <digitalsky> oh i was just worried cuz i'm not used to seeing >90% of my mem used in windows (yesterday i saw 1GB used)
[06:58] <digitalsky> if it's normal then great! i'd rather the OS make full use of my RAM
[06:59] <ChaosParser> digitalsky: That's.....not how it works?
[06:59] <_Office> Joseph, Broadcom is easy to get working but I have to go home to the wife now maybe tomorrow if you dont get it running I can get you going.. we have 6 laptops with the chip
[06:59] <Joseph> I'm going to have to try it on the laptop and see what happens worst is I have to reinstall another version of linux lol
[06:59] <n2diy> digitalsky: If things are working ok, don't sweat it.
[06:59] <_Office> gn all
[06:59] <digitalsky> i dunno... in windows i always have a ton of ram available
[07:00] <digitalsky> cool thanks guys! you've been very helpful
[07:00] <Buicklesaber> caccan anyone  tell me a better place for a gnome question? seems like all system in here.
[07:00] <ChaosParser> digitalsky: You mean used?
[07:00] <n2diy> Buicklesaber: #gnome
[07:01] <digitalsky> ChaosParser: umm no. what i mean is I'm not used to seeing so much ram used in windows. so when i see almost all my ram is used up in kubuntu, i'm worried.
[07:01] <coco_> THANK YOU ALL THOSE WHO HELPED ME WITH THE NTFS PARTITION SETUP
[07:01] <Buicklesaber> cool night all
[07:01] <coco_> linux rocks
[07:01] <Fructose> I installed ntfs-config and ntfs-3g, but even using sudo, I can't write to this drive: /dev/sdb3 on /media/SharedNTFS type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=222,utf8)
[07:01] <Fructose> But it says rw, so what's wrong?
[07:02] <ChaosParser> digitalsky: Kubuntu is using MORE ram than windows?  What on earth did you do?
[07:02] <astro76> ChaosParser, that is perfectly normal, and has been thoroughly answered for digitalsky
[07:02] <coco_> i did too
[07:03] <coco_> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite.html#
[07:03] <digitalsky> ChaosParser: yea... maybe i have too many processes running
[07:03] <ferronica> i have an .ISO file , i want to add some files in it or replace it is it posssible to do it in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME ?
[07:03] <digitalsky> ok time to continue to learn about configuring ubuntu. thanks!
[07:04] <ChaosParser> astro76: Isn't KDE supposed to use less ram than Gnome?
[07:04] <ChaosParser> astro76: In theory?
[07:04] <coco_> lol thats the way a nub like me is doing it
[07:04] <astro76> ChaosParser, not by any means, it's being used by disk cache
[07:05] <steve_lam> I'm not able to ping anything, but my internet still works. I've been using Nessus and Netcat, could that have messed with something?
[07:05] <komputes> Does Cinerella support HD video 1080i?
[07:05] <rav> Hey, first was up? Second. I have a problem with a Nvidia card i have been trying to install ALL day. i finally got it working, BUT, when i go into NVIDIA settings it says You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.  but when i follow those instructions, it makes me use NVIDIA driver, which does not work, then i have to re modify xorg.
[07:05] <ChaosParser> astro76: Thanks for the info.  Obviously I haven't spend any time with KDE.  ;)
[07:06] <ravihp> i wanna share my drievs ,files,folders from ubuntu..which to use nfs or samba?
[07:06] <feliciano> I connect a HD to my PC... its have two partitions fat32, One is reading ok, but the another one send me this messege "mount: /dev/hdb5/: can't read superblock" I have very valuable information, because that is my backup partition in a PC with win2000... please help me I need recover that files
[07:06] <ravihp> that must be accessible for windows users
[07:06] <ravihp> i wanna share my drievs ,files,folders from ubuntu..which to use nfs or samba?
[07:06] <steve_lam> anyone?
[07:07] <ravihp> how to share drives to LAN?
[07:07] <digitalsky> sorry steve_lam, don't know
[07:07] <frostburn> ravihp, samba is easiest to share among windows pcs
[07:07] <digitalsky> ravihp: samba for windows
[07:07] <frostburn> ravihp, right click a folder, share
[07:07] <ferronica> i have an .ISO file , i want to add some files in it or replace it is it posssible to do it in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME ?
[07:07] <steve_lam> it's alright
[07:07] <digitalsky> steve_lam: but i'm a newb so u should wait for others to answer
[07:08] <ravihp> what the difference b/w samba and nfs
[07:08] <siimo> whats Gobuntu? is that GOOGLE Ubuntu?
[07:08] <rav> How do i enable direct rendering on my card?
[07:08] <guido> steve_lam: what do you have inside /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
[07:08] <feliciano> PLEASE HELP ME
[07:08] <steve_lam> let me check
[07:08] <ravihp> what the difference b/w samba and nfs
[07:08] <frostburn> ravihp, samba is more configurable and nfs is primarily used between nix machines
[07:08] <guido> ok
[07:08] <sadmin> helo guys am feeling slowness in my ubuntu machine
[07:08] <sadmin> what i need to check
[07:09] <sadmin> my firefox loading my java website is real slow
[07:09] <alecw2> I'm looking for a fun/easy to learn/professional animation application for linux. Is there such a thing?
[07:09] <ravihp> thanks dude<frostburn>
[07:09] <LBO_KEN> bye al
[07:09] <astro76> siimo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobuntu
[07:09] <LBO_KEN> all
[07:09] <rav> alexw2: got to add/remove and look for there