[13:12] <bezaban> llutz: oh yes, I see.  I changed /etc/update-manager/release-upgrases prompt=normal then went ahead, then back to LTS when i hit 14.04.  Should have exactly the same effect shouldn't it? And thanks :)
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: maybe try the recoverymode from grub/fix broken packages or failsafeX?
[13:13] <llutz> bezaban: i'd guess it does the same
[13:13] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, unfortunately recovery mode wont work for me as my monitor is one of the korean 1440p panels that requires a custom EDID to be loaded
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: you cant enter grub by shift?
[13:14] <s1gmab3ta> i.e. recovery mode will result in a blank screen
[13:14] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, yes i can enter grub, and windows works fine
[13:14] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, it appears as if i dont' have a window manager. i'm getting all these "ubuntu has an encountered an error, report it?" messages in the top left corner, undecorated
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: thats strange, ive had this scenario on few older machines recently
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: clean install?
[13:15] <s1gmab3ta> originally? yes
[13:15] <s1gmab3ta> recently? no
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: maybe try 14.04 clean to check with updates on during setup?
[13:16] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, that's a lot of work...
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: i know, but if you cant get grub.. can you still enter a terminal?
[13:17] <Kartans> (This is the guy who/whom i want to beat up.) Is it whom or who ?
[13:17] <Locolino> hy. i run the latest version of ubuntu on a 5 year old samsung notebook, any idea for overheating problems on video fullscreen mode ... ?
[13:17] <llutz> Kartans: /j #english
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> Locolino: mention your graphics card +i915 driver loaded
[13:18] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, i can enter grub. and when in my non-functioning ubuntu desktop, i can alt+F1 into a terminal
[13:18] <s1gmab3ta> it really really appears as if just unity itself is not launching
[13:18] <s1gmab3ta> or maybe compiz
[13:18] <Locolino> hy. i run the latest version of ubuntu on a 5 year old samsung notebook, any idea for overheating problems on video fullscreen mode ... ? +i915 driver loaded
[13:18] <Locolino> ;)
[13:18] <Locolino> thanks
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: maybe install a light window manager from terminal to fix stuff?
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: or unity restart
[13:19] <nerium> I just removed a big file using rm -rf file.log, but the disk space remains the same
[13:19] <nerium> Why wasn't the file removed? I can't see the file if I do 'ls -lah'
[13:20] <llutz> nerium: the file-dscriptor is still opened by a process, space will be freed after the process ends
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> s1gmab3ta: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[13:21] <nerium> llutz: That worked, thanks!
[13:21] <llutz> nerium: and don't use "rm -rf" for files
[13:22] <cuddylier> Is it normal for a HW RAID card to still be at 0% rebuilding after 10 hours? http://puu.sh/9g6w1/22dcf4201d.png Any idea on what I should do?
[13:22] <llutz> nerium: to empty a logfile while the process runs, just use " >file.log "
[13:23] <shunya_chakra> !find libz
[13:24] <s1gmab3ta> lotuspsychje, very strange, I updated my nvidia proprietary driver and it's resolved now
[13:25] <s1gmab3ta> thanks for the help anyway
[13:27] <frank_the_tank> Hi, I'm having some problems with the multistrap package, looked it up on the launchpad and the bug is already fixed and the patch is pending review, how long does it take for such a fix to be applied through the updates? Could I install the unicorn package on tahr or would that mess things up?
[13:30] <unknown11223> hi
[13:30] <unknown11223> i am unablt to search in evince
[13:32] <unknown11223> this did not happen in earlier versions of evinvce
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> !info evince | unknown11223
[13:32] <shunya_chakra> hi, I sat my brightness, and on restart it comes to default setting, How can I set it permanent...
[13:33] <shunya_chakra> means whenever i restart my brightness setting don;'t loss
[13:33] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: it will require some editing in files
[13:33] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: its very simple
[13:34] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: open a terminal
[13:34] <shunya_chakra> ok unknown11223 i'm ready :)
[13:35] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: ok  type cd /sys/class/backlight
[13:36] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: and then type ls and tell me whats there
[13:36] <bobharry> Whats wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7594854/
[13:37] <llutz> bobharry: the packagename
[13:37] <llutz> !info php5-mysql | bobharry
[13:37] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: are you still there?
[13:37] <bobharry> Yet it needs to be mysqli for my xenforo forum
[13:37] <bobharry> The required PHP extension MySQLi could not be found. Please ask your host to install this extension.
[13:38] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: ?
[13:38] <EzeQL> hi, anyone working with sublimetext3 and 14.04?
[13:38] <llutz> bobharry: nd php5-mysql brings it, php5-mysql: /usr/lib/php5/20121212/mysqli.so
[13:38] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, sorry first i typed wrong.. command that's why i'm replying late
[13:39] <moarrr_bitcoinz> ive installed kde
[13:39] <moarrr_bitcoinz> w
[13:39] <moarrr_bitcoinz> how do i use it?
[13:39] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: be quick
[13:39] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, it giving me acpi_video0 file
[13:39] <cuddylier> Is it normal for a HW RAID card to still be at 0% rebuilding after 10 hours?
[13:39] <bobharry> llutz: If you goto http://forums.playmcpe.com/install/index.php?install/ it gives the error though I've just done apt-get install php5-mysql
[13:39] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: good now type cd acpi_video0
[13:40] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, 2 dir and one file
[13:40] <newbie|3> I just downloaded? a program called "manager" for accounting.  It had an unresolved and apparently unresolvable problem.  I found a solution for the dependency, but can no longer find "manager"
[13:40] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, bl_power, type, device, power
[13:40] <str> I have a problem since I upgraded to 14.04, pidgin message notifications do not play, no sound from pidgin. Anyone else with the same problem?  How can I solve it?
[13:40] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: whats in there
[13:41] <newbie|3> Anyone wanna tell me how to find it?
[13:41] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, some files and folder,,... i think max_brightness will be interesting?
[13:41] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: nano max_brightness
[13:41] <cfhowlett> newbie|3 downloaded from where?
[13:41] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: wahts in the file
[13:41] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, 8
[13:41] <sgp667> hey guys I have a question is there any app in ubuntu that can pop some image or text using some key shortcut? I need to look up all lot of cheatsheets these days like for vim, tmux etc.
[13:42] <shunya_chakra> value 8
[13:42] <shunya_chakra> there
[13:42] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra:  ok good
[13:42] <newbie|3> cfhowlett:  from the repo (I'm using Ubuntu Studio 14.04)
[13:42] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, is i need to change that value?
[13:42] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: now exit
[13:43] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, done!
[13:43] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: and type chmod 777 brightness
[13:43] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: add sudo before
[13:43] <llutz> unknown11223: editing files in sysfs /sys makes no sense, they will be gone after reboot
[13:43] <labeeb32> so i finally figured out that its the backup gpt partition table that prevents dual boot ubuntu to find partitions on installer on already installed windows 8.1
[13:43] <unknown11223> llutz: i know that i will add in rc.local
[13:44] <llutz> unknown11223: and why would on chmod 777 files there then?
[13:44] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: what happened, u still there?
[13:44] <llutz> one*
[13:44] <labeeb32> so how should i delete that gpt backup???
[13:45] <labeeb32> bcos in installer screen it says there is no operating system detected
[13:45] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, done
[13:45] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, 6 is there
[13:45] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: where is 6?
[13:45] <labeeb32> but i do have windows 8.1
[13:45] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, there is 6 inside brightness file
[13:45] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: did you do chmod 777 brightness
[13:45] <shunya_chakra> yup! unknown11223
[13:46] <CalimeroTeknik> is there anything on ubuntu server 12.04 (precise) that prevents a single process from causing a load exceeding 5?
[13:46] <MrPPS> I think I have bad lag
[13:46] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: ok great now open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[13:47] <cuddylier> Is it normal for a HW RAID card to still be at 0% rebuilding after 10 hours?
[13:47] <maddawg3> cuddylier depends what card
[13:47] <bobharry> YAY llutz thanks for helping now i can setup my forums ;D
[13:47] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, I opened it.
[13:47] <maddawg3> also size of drive
[13:48] <cuddylier> maddawg3: How about this one? http://puu.sh/9g7XL/bb766d4cd5.png
[13:48] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: now add this line before exit0  echo 3 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[13:48] <cuddylier> I'm not sure if it's worth waiting any longer.
[13:48] <labeeb32> guide me anyone plz
[13:48] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: echo 3 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[13:49] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: and then save and exit and restart your computer to check
[13:49] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, done!
[13:49] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: did your brightness change?
[13:49] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223,  I haven't restarted it yet.
[13:49] <shunya_chakra> is i need to restart?
[13:49] <labeeb32> the backup gpt partition table that prevents dual boot ubuntu to find partitions on installer on already installed windows 8.1
[13:50] <unknown11223> shunya_chakra: go and restart now good luck
[13:50] <labeeb32> so how to remove this gpt partition table backup
[13:50] <shunya_chakra> unknown11223, Thanks so much for helping me! :)
[13:50] <labeeb32> so that ubuntu finds the uefi partition of windows and proceeds for dual booting
[13:51] <cfhowlett> labeeb32 I don't dualboot 8.1, but I have NEVER seen a recommendation to delete the backup partition.  proceed with caution
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !dualboot
[13:52] <labeeb32> ubuntu installer dont see my partitions. it just shows all my hard disk as free space
[13:52] <labeeb32> and says there is no operating system detected
[13:53] <RMYC> really quick and simple question, what does the "$" mean on the command line?
[13:54] <llutz> RMYC: usually singnals "normal user" prompt (while root has #)
[13:54] <bobharry> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[13:56] <bobharry> Anyone know the fix?
[13:57] <RMYC> I don't.
[13:57] <RMYC> I'm sorry!
[13:57] <sydney> bobharry: Sorry,a havent been here. The fix to what?
[13:58] <bobharry> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[13:58] <bobharry> Is that a ubuntu problem?
[13:58] <bobharry> Or mysql side?
[13:58] <savid> I installed fglrx via the Ubuntu proprietary drivers screen, and now my laptop won't boot. How can I undo this?
[13:58] <pavlos> bobharry, fix /etc/my.cnf
[13:58] <santhosh> no it is an mysql problem just type the command rm -rf var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock and restart the mysql service
[13:58] <bobharry> How can I do that?
[13:59] <bobharry> Is it openable by nano?
[13:59] <bobharry> Nothings in /etc/my.cnf
[14:00] <bobharry> pavlos: Its completely empty in /etc/my.cnf
[14:00] <santhosh> http://serverfault.com/questions/305053/mysqld-sock-doesnt-exist
[14:01] <bobharry> santosh: Theres nothing in it to config.
[14:01] <bobharry> santhosh: Its completely empty.
[14:01] <sydney> bobharry: Hmm
[14:02] <EzeQL> anyone working with sublimetext3 and 14.04?
[14:02] <bobharry> sydney: santhosh: http://prntscr.com/3pw3z3
[14:03] <sydney> bobharry: I am not sure how to help you.:( i am not familiar with this. :(
[14:03] <bobharry> :santhosh :sydney Found it xD
[14:04] <bobharry> root@playmcpe:~# sudo service mysql restart stop: Unknown instance:
[14:05] <bobharry> Its restarting now xd
[14:07] <alazare619> does anyone in here use caffeine in xubuntu i dont get the tray icon
[14:11] <pavlos> alazare619, https://bugs.launchpad.net/caffeine/+bug/1315127
[14:16] <nacer> hi there
[14:18] <ademone> hello guys, i have an usb stick but i can not access it
[14:19] <ademone> it is mounted on sdc
[14:19] <ademone> the gparted cant see it
[14:19] <ademone> to format it
[14:20] <ademone> i can see it from the disks application but i cant do nothing
[14:20] <ademone> any ideas?
[14:20] <matt444> Hi, when I run sshfs as a user the mounted directory is owned by root:root, any idea why?
[14:20] <newbie|4> I am trying to install an accounting software bundle.  I click to install the program called "Manager", but the installation stops quickly, telling me "manager-accounting: Depends: libmono-wcf3.0-cil (>= 2.6.3) but it is not going to be installed"
[14:21] <newbie|4> I found wcf3.0a... but that doesn't help me
[14:21] <newbie|4> Where do I find this thing and should I find it?
[14:30] <aqualight> yup
[14:31] <obochaman> y bueno entonces?
[14:31] <obochaman> no entiendo bien el funcionamiento de esto
[14:31] <obochaman> :/
[14:31] <bcvery> !es | obochaman
[14:32] <obochaman> get it :P
[14:37] <pavlos> ademone, what's the filesystem on the stick?
[14:37] <RMYC> anybody know what "/etc/hp" represents in the command line?
 i think it is printer
[14:38] <LinuxNoob89> Hi all....got a question.....Im trying to set up ftp access to a folder. When I connect as Anonymous to ftp which directory do I end up? Which config file should I edit to set it to my custom folder
[14:40] <dupingping> hi
[14:40] <dupingping> everybody.
[14:40] <dupingping> why i don't print with my printer in ubuntu12.04 lts
[14:40] <dupingping> why i don't print with my printer in ubuntu12.04 lts?
[14:41] <RMYC> hallo
[14:41] <RMYC> dupingping
[14:41] <RMYC> =D
[14:41] <dupingping> \o
[14:41] <RMYC> O/
[14:42] <Garheade> LinuxNoob89, the defautl ftp directory is /var/ftp or something like that
[14:42] <LinuxNoob89> @Garheade, thanks will check
[14:45] <cfhowlett> dupingping probably you need to configure the printer ...
[14:45] <dupingping> how to configure?
[14:45] <dupingping> umm,
[14:45] <cfhowlett> dupingping "add printer"
[14:45] <dupingping> my printer is Canon Pixma IP 1180. o/
[14:45] <dupingping> I already tried it.
[14:46] <funtable> LinuxNoob89, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[14:47] <LinuxNoob89> @Garheade, it wasnt there................@funtable, thanks gonna read
[14:47] <jay21> hello
[14:48] <jay21> does anyone know what apport-gtk is??
[14:48] <jay21> i get an internal error
[14:48] <jay21> /usr/share/apport-gtk
[14:50] <jay21> is there a help channel i can get info?
[14:51] <bcvery> !info apport-gtk | jay21
[14:51] <Someus> Hi. Im using Ubuntu 14.04. IM trying to install AMD proprietary drivers for graphics card. How do i add fglrx repository?
[14:52] <jay21> well ok what can i do abot the internal error
[14:52] <LinuxNoob89> @funtable, thanks found it on the page and confirmed on my system ....the default ftp directory is /srv/ftp
[14:52] <funtable> LinuxNoob89, nice =)
[14:53] <Someus> Hi. Im using Ubuntu 14.04. IM trying to install AMD proprietary drivers for graphics card. How do i add fglrx repository?
[14:53] <LinuxNoob89> Cheers guys, gotta go
[14:53] <Wulf> Hi
[14:54] <Someus> Hi. Im using Ubuntu 14.04. IM trying to install AMD proprietary drivers for graphics card.  I'm deliberately blocking another upstart job and now trying to find out how this influences rsyslog. Can I somehow see the status of upstart?
[14:57] <Someus> Help me
[14:57] <Someus> i want to install AMD proprietary driver
[14:58] <cfhowlett> Someus READ the patience message - if no one knows, no will answer
[14:58] <Someus> of course someone knows
[14:58] <cfhowlett> Someus for INSTANT help, go to Canonical paid support
[14:58] <IdleOne> if nobody who is currently active knows*
[14:58] <Someus> Active also may know
[14:59] <Someus> maybe bored to help
[14:59] <Someus> or lazy
[14:59] <cfhowlett> Someus repeatedly demanding "help me!" is unlikely to gain their interest
[14:59] <IdleOne> Did you try reading the README file you got when you download the drivers from AMD?
[14:59] <Someus> im reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[15:00] <IdleOne> alright, so what specifically do you need help with?
[15:00] <Someus> BUt i dont know how to add something to repository!
[15:00] <Someus> i want to add flgrx to repository
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !repo| someone
[15:00] <Someus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer
[15:00] <Someus> HOw to add this to repository?
[15:00] <IdleOne> edit /etc/apt/sources.list or you can do it via the software center -> settings
[15:01] <cfhowlett> someone https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[15:01] <Someus> So should it look like this: 'deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer trusty main/restriced ?
[15:01] <IdleOne> looks right
[15:01] <Someus> main or restricted?
[15:02] <IdleOne> what does the wiki page say?
[15:02] <IdleOne> my guess is restricted
[15:02] <Someus> wiki say nothing
[15:03] <Someus> i dont want to mess up something
[15:03] <IdleOne> well proprietary drivers won't be in the main repository
[15:03] <Someus> ok
[15:03] <Someus> What is canonical partners repository? Drivers?
[15:04] <lykw> hello everyone, in 14.04. there is a feature at disk utility, which says,create disk image. is this feature the GUI version of dd imaging command?
[15:04] <elarson> I've been debugging my network and installed wireshark to see if there were any clues as to why I was having connection issues. after installing wireshark and configuring it to capture packets without being root, network manager (and the software update UI) are asking me for my root password.
[15:04] <ernesto_> hi! have any of you tried copy cloud service? i've just created an account, installed the GUI but cannot share other folders but the copy home...
[15:05] <elarson> I'm assuming the wireshark change is what triggered it b/c it messes with capabilities and/or policy kit
[15:05] <elarson> two things I know nothing about :(
[15:05] <Someus> I have enabled Proprietary drivers for devices ( Restricted ) but it doesn't find proprietary drivers for my graphics card
[15:05] <ernesto_> talking about https://www.copy.com
[15:06] <elarson> also, it is *not* a sudo prompt b/c my password doesn't work and it specifically says "root" in the text.
[15:06] <metallico> hi guys, $.ajax seems to be converting json data to array when sending xhr. is there a way to make it send the json as a string?
[15:06] <metallico> sorry wrong channel
[15:06] <elarson> metallico: that sounds like your server is processing the data before you see it as a string ;)
[15:07] <mrvisser> hmm, for some reason running unattended-upgrade is not pulling in the openssl fix libssl-1.0.1ubuntu5.14 . Should it be?
[15:11] <user__> When i start openvpn on my vps i get disconnected. How i can make my vps use vpn and still be able to connect to vps?
[15:11] <Someus> Hi. Why I dont find Proprietary driver for graphics card in Additional Drivers update section?
[15:13] <TJ-> user__: sounds like you've configured openvpn to take over the default route
[15:13] <Someus> Hi. Why I dont find Proprietary driver for graphics card in Additional Drivers update section?
[15:13] <Someus> I dont understand
[15:14] <Someus> What exactly i need to do?
[15:15] <user__> yes, TJ can you point me to the right direction ? I use google, but most results its to complicated ...
[15:15] <cobalt237> I ran system updates on my laptop yesterday running 12.04 and now DNS isn't working
[15:16] <cobalt237> Is there a good guide for debugging this or any tips?
[15:16] <Someus> Hi. Why I dont find Proprietary driver for graphics card in Additional Drivers update section? What should i do?
[15:16] <cobalt237> If I enter the IP addresses manually I can ping, so it does seem to be a problem with DNS itself
[15:17] <TJ-> user__: you'd need to check the logs when the VPN connection is established, see if the route is being changed. "/var/log/syslog" should help you there
[15:17] <testdr> cobalt237: last update 12.04 with a new kernel did not change my dns-settings -- pls. more infos, networksetting/config
[15:18] <cobalt237> testdr: what in particular?
[15:18] <testdr> cobalt237: does your network-config get dns-settings per dhcp or what is set up
[15:18] <Someus> Can someone help me please?
[15:18] <bala> what is called dns server
[15:19] <bala> what someus?
[15:19] <testdr> bala: dns = domain name service server
[15:19] <cobalt237> testdr: I don't know
[15:19] <bala> what is work was ? testdr
[15:19] <user__> ok
[15:20] <testdr> cobalt237: system-settings, network-configuration, ip4 .. or do you use ip6?
[15:20] <bala> can you explain
[15:20] <CasaViva> hello all, Q: how to remove a service from boot?
[15:20] <cobalt237> testdr: I use what is installed by default, I guess.  How would I check that?
[15:21] <Someus> HELP ME!
[15:21] <Someus> HEEELP!
[15:21] <testdr> cobalt237: systemconfiguration --> and there the network-icon ..
[15:22] <Someus> Help Please!
[15:22] <waykool99> ip6 is now online? couple months ago i heard there were security issues.
[15:22] <Someus> Why i dont see proprietary drivers in Additional drivers tab?
[15:23] <user__> well, i see that vpn change route, but have no clue what todo
[15:23] <cfhowlett> !patience|Someus
[15:23] <Someus> im ignored
[15:23] <Someus> :)
[15:23] <cfhowlett> Someus bad attitude towards the volunteers will do that
[15:23] <Someus> cfhowlett and you don't know the answer?
[15:24] <cobalt237> testdr: like network under system settings?  I see a wired connection, but don't see any relevant information besides IP address, subnet mask, route, and DNS (<IP_ADDRESS>.75.76.76)
[15:24] <Someus> I don't care that
[15:24] <Someus> i know im good guy
[15:24] <Someus> Jesus loves me that's most important
[15:24] <cfhowlett> !attitude
[15:24] <Someus> Here are 1000 people and everyone is offline?
[15:24] <Someus> dont show me guidelines please
[15:24] <testdr> cobalt237: this DNS(xx.xx.xx.xx.xx....) is not a valid ip-address
[15:25] <Lucax> good morning, day, afternoon evening or goodnight to you all ubuntees
[15:25] <Someus> Lucax can you help me?
[15:25] <cobalt237> testdr: I agree
[15:25] <Mattias> People will answer if they have an answer to the question and if they feel like answering. Just because they don't write doesn't mean they're offline.
[15:25] <Someus> Can someone talk to me in PM?
[15:25] <Lucax> I recently installed ubuntu gnome and my backupthing is nor working, anyone?
[15:26] <Someus> Mattias i don't believe 1000 people dont know solution for me
[15:26] <testdr> cobalt237: if you know your dns-server - maybe the dial-in-router? something like <IP_ADDRESS> ?? you can correct it manually ... but why do you not know if you used dhcp to set those things automatically
[15:26] <bala> ya i will someus
[15:26] <user__> exir
[15:26] <CasaViva> hello all, Q: how to remove a service from boot?
[15:26] <shaddowed> when will nvidia 337 hit the main repo? xorg-edgers tends to be unstable
[15:26] <bala> i dont know  casaviva
[15:27] <cobalt237> testdr: why would I know?  I assumed it used dhcp because I haven't changed any settings and just plugged the ethernet cable into the back of the system
[15:27] <testdr> cobalt237: you can use a free available dns-server like the google one: <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:27] <Someus> OK
[15:27] <Mattias> Someus: What is the problem? Symptoms? Generic questions like "Why won't this thing show for me?" is hard to answer.
[15:27] <Someus> Mattias
[15:27] <cobalt237> testdr: how do I set the dns endpoint manually?
[15:27] <llutz> CasaViva: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[15:27] <cobalt237> resolv.conf?
[15:27] <Someus> i don't know why i dont see proprietary drivers in Additional drivers list!
[15:27] <Someus> CAn you help me add repositories?
[15:27] <Someus> or what i need to do?
[15:27] <testdr> cobalt237: you can setup for dhcp again and specify the dns-server ip and try the google-dns-server
[15:28] <Someus> I have Ati X1200 graphics card
[15:28] <Someus> i need to install fxglr i guess
[15:28] <waykool99> 2 days ago, i asked a question, saved to Gedit chat.txt.  forgot to save to usb thumb. me dummy. formatted drive. what is the apt-get command to add the Gnome GUI to ubuntu studio v14.04 LTS 64 bit, please?
[15:28] <llutz> cobalt237: add "nameserver x.x.x.x" to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head and run "sudo resolvconf -u" then
[15:28] <Mattias> Someus: google knows the answer, ask what you asked us on google. and add "in ubuntu" or something
[15:28] <Someus> Mattias i tried
[15:29] <Macer> hm
[15:29] <digilord> Is there a way in 14.04 to make it so that the menu items for a window don't auto hide? That is annoying
[15:29] <Someus> Mattias i got this good website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[15:29] <Macer> spaces is a bit messed up. or compiz
[15:29] <testdr> cobalt237:  it happened 2 times in a few years for me, that my internet-provide crashed his dns-service -- and then i had to manually chose another one
[15:29] <Macer> when i move windows between the spaces compiz crashes/freezes
[15:29] <shaddowed> digilord: +1
[15:29] <skinux> Is JACK audio a replacement for ALSA/OSS or just extensions/additional tools?
[15:29] <Someus> But i didnt got guide there how to add fxglr repository
[15:29] <skinux> ** replacement for ALSA/OSS/PULSE?
[15:29] <Mattias> Someus: Do you know how to use a terminal?
[15:30] <Someus> yes
[15:30] <Someus> Ctrl + Alt + T :)
[15:30] <Mattias> Someus: do you know how to install packages with apt-get?
[15:30] <Someus> Mattias i could learn that.
[15:30] <Someus> yeah i know
[15:31] <Mattias> Someus: in terminal: sudo apt-get install fglrx-installer   I'm on archlinux at home right now so I can't verify that is the actual name of the package, but try that first.
[15:31] <cobalt237> testdr: there's an "autogenerated" warning in that file and when I run the resolvconf command it says "Error: /etc/resolv.conf isn't a symlink, not doing anything"
[15:31] <staya> I've been looking for a modern XFCE4 theme for a bit now and haven't found much, any suggestions?
[15:31] <Mattias> Someus: might be just "fglrx" without the -installer part
[15:32] <Someus> ok it works
[15:32] <Someus> but i wonder why i didnt have that driver in Additional drivers list
[15:32] <Mattias> Someus: actually, if you continue reading the 2.1 section, all the instructions for how to install is there step by step, including the fglrx install command
[15:32] <shaddowed> staya: shimmer-themes
[15:32] <Mattias> on that site you posted
[15:33] <Someus> Mattias but i wanted to go for easiest way
[15:33] <Someus> wasnt so sure about that
[15:33] <waykool99> try going into Synaptic. type in keywords: ati, amd, fglrx etc.
[15:33] <Someus> GUI way!
[15:33] <Mattias> Someus: command line is the only thing I use, sorry :) most of the time command line is faster and easier
[15:33] <Someus> ok
[15:34] <waykool99> could try apt-get install fglrx, see if it suggests others.
[15:34] <Someus> But i have problem
[15:34] <emil_stdio> I am getting an error on a setup asking me to run dmesg, but it is empty.  after unsuccessful search I tried sudo service dmesg status and got dmesg: unrecognized service.  how do I run it as a service?
[15:34] <shaddowed> why not use xserver-xorg-video-ati?
[15:35] <Guest48378> CasaViva, try this => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootServices => additionally => read "man update-rc.d" => more general => https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+14.04+deactivate+system+services+on+boot
[15:35] <Someus> shaddowed because i think i need proprietary driver for Arcane Legends game to work
[15:39] <cobalt237> testdr: I can set the DNS endpoint to <IP_ADDRESS> in the wired connection interface (where it pulls only "addresses" from DHCP)
[15:39] <testdr> cobalt237: and if you set the dns-address manuall, does it work?
[15:39] <cobalt237> that gives me a valid IP in the network display and I see <IP_ADDRESS> as the endpoint, but still can't resolve domain names
[15:40] <waykool99> is your PC behind a router? if yes, try your routers gateway IP.
[15:40] <Lucax> what is the name of the backup program in gnome?
[15:40] <Lucax> is it s3?
[15:41] <Lucax> it's icon is a safe
[15:41] <ubuntu1> hi
[15:41] <ubuntu1> i have ubuntu 12.10
[15:41] <thaliz> Hi, I need help with LTSP installed through edubuntu out of the box. so much lag on thin 3 thin client  -server is amd phenom2 x6cores 6gb ram netgear gigabit
[15:41] <ubuntu1> but my webcam not recognized
[15:41] <ubuntu1> for my project in c++ opencv
[15:41] <ubuntu1> what should i do?
[15:42] <Lucax> I am gettting an error for the program does backups in gnome, it says: no connection to backend, can somebody help?
[15:42] <ubuntu1> nobody khow?
[15:42] <ubuntu1> khnow *?
[15:42] <ubuntu1> :|||||||||||||||||||||\
[15:42] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu1, 12.10 is end of life not supported
[15:42] <waykool99> is your webcam USB?
[15:43] <ubuntu1> ubuntu 12.10 on VM
[15:43] <cobalt237> waykool: if I set it to my router's IP I still don't get a connection
[15:43] <ubuntu1> my webcam work in win 7
[15:43] <ubuntu1> but in ubuntu not working
[15:43] <ubuntu1> :|
[15:43] <wilee-nilee> !12.10 | ubuntu1
[15:43] <digilord> shaddowed: I found it finally. Here is a link on how to get your menu to not disappear. http://goo.gl/gta7bo
[15:44] <testdr> cobalt237: do you have: nslookup              test it in a terminal?
[15:44] <waykool99> most consumer routers use gateway as your login and as its own DNS Server IP address.
[15:44] <ubuntu1> what can i do for DL webcam driver ?
[15:44] <cobalt237> Yeah, I was doing nslookup on yahoo.com
[15:44] <ubuntu1> my net is slow speed :(
[15:44] <cobalt237> looks like it's timing out
[15:44] <Greek-Boy> I did sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade from the command line and got some erros and segmentation faults. Now apt says segmentation fault tree. :-(
[15:45] <testdr> cobalt237: you used nslookup to lookup a name with the default dns-server? ...
[15:45] <ubuntu1> ?? :???
[15:45] <ubuntu1> :my god :(
[15:46] <cobalt237> testdr: Yes, like "nslookup yahoo.com"
[15:46] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 12.10 no longer supported
[15:46] <cobalt237> it says the connection timed out and no servers could be reached
[15:46] <waykool99> go to Terminal. type 'ifconfig -h' and 'netstat --help'
[15:46] <XPS1105> cfhowlett what support?
[15:46] <chris73_rm> ciao a tutti
[15:46] <testdr> cobalt237: and it spit out something like:  <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:46] <ubuntu1> what i do?
[15:47] <XPS1105> ubuntu1 support ?
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | ubuntu1
[15:47] <shaddowed> digilord: well that disables global menu all together, which is fine on large desktop monitor, but on my lappy i enjoy having more screen space
[15:47] <waykool99> netstat -Wn is a lot like netstat -ano in windows a few years ago.
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> XPS1105, channel policy is not supporting eol's
[15:47] <cobalt237> testdr: no, it timed out, ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[15:47] <phunyguy> errr
[15:48] <ubuntu1> isnt any way that i install driver for webcam ?
[15:48] <Under-C-Capt> I have a bit of an issue...won't auto connect to wireless after suspend...there was a previously answered question like this in the forums but this is a bit daunting for me here...Ubuntu 12.04 LTS w/ Unity desktop
[15:48] <Macer> does cssm not work in ubuntu?
[15:48] <CasaViva> thanks Guest48378
[15:48] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, we are allowed to help with the upgrade.
[15:48] <testdr> cobalt237: use nslookup and specify the dns-server-address -- after start of nslookup type: www.google.com    <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, No really, lol.
[15:48] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, just making sure that is clear...
[15:48] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, I have been here for years. ;)
[15:49] <phunyguy> "wilee-nilee> XPS1105, channel policy is not supporting eol's"
[15:49] <ubuntu1> can U explain exactly to what i do? :||||||||||||
[15:49] <phunyguy> that's only half true.
[15:49] <cobalt237> testdr: that seems to output what I'd expect -- a list of google IP addresses
[15:49] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 your running an unsupported system - NO security upgrades.  Time to install a supported OS - 14.04 is current.  THEN worry about your webcam
[15:49] <phunyguy> 1.) it is not a policy, 2.) we need to be as helpful as possible.
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, in your mind, look at there question of another user here.
[15:50] <wilee-nilee> phunyguy, And by the way do not harass me.
[15:50] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|ubuntu1 this is how
[15:50] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hi
[15:50] <testdr> cobalt237: this proves you can get a workint dns-system if you specify a working dns-server --- its not your computer (at 90% shure)
[15:50] <phunyguy> hello CREEEPEREXPLOSIV
[15:50] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hello
[15:50] <nikonmx> Hi
[15:50] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, excuse me?
[15:50] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> waht
[15:50] <nikonmx> Hi
[15:50] <testdr> cobalt237: after manually changing the dns-server in network-settings, did you down/up the network-interface?
[15:51] <cobalt237> testdr: It was just a guess that it was the update because I updated my laptop before going home and now it can't connect while the other two computers on ethernet still work
[15:51] <cobalt237> testdr: yes
[15:51] <phunyguy> CREEEPEREXPLOSIV, do you have a support question?
[15:51] <captain-nemo> sorry guys easier name for you here
[15:51] <XPS1105> privmsg XPS1105
[15:52] <ubuntu1> ????????????? only upgrade.................
[15:52] <testdr> cobalt237: then check the network settings of the working computers .... and try their dns-setting --- if it is set via dhcp, it could be your computer does not get a dhcp-resolv of your router
[15:52] <ubuntu1> no way with terminal?
[15:52] <ubuntu1> install driver for my ubuntu ?
[15:52] <ubuntu1> with terminal ?
[15:53] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, I don't understand what you are asking
[15:53] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 you're running a dead and unsupported version of ubuntu.  unsupported means WE AIN'T SUPPORTING IT.  upgrade
[15:53] <testdr> cobalt237:  for a first fix you can set the network-settings manually -- only to be shure the system is working
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu1, You could do a fresh install, 13.04 is eol, and 13.10 will be in july. The important part here is that you are aware of release and end of release dates.
[15:53] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 running an unprotected system is ASKING for serious troubles
[15:53] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, an upgrade to 12.10 to 13.10 is possible, but I am not sure how well it works.  A fresh install would be better
[15:54] <phunyguy> upgrade from*
[15:54] <planetmaker> what's the life span of a normal release?
[15:54] <planetmaker> if 13.04 is already eol?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> planetmaker it is.  sorry.
[15:54] <ubuntu1> i cant do it ... my speed internet is alow :||||||||||
[15:54] <phunyguy> 9 months
[15:54] <phunyguy> 12.10 was the last 18 month release, which is why it went longer
[15:54] <planetmaker> aye. thanks
[15:54] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 yes you can.  use torrent to get the ISO.
[15:54] <ubuntu1> any way else?
[15:54] <testdr> cobalt237: last -- it could be something like your router and a router-poweroff/on may fix it ..
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, lts 5 years, others it has depended lately, but generally 18 months.
[15:54] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, order a DVD in the mail
[15:55] <ubuntu1> can not !!!!!
[15:55] <ubuntu1> :|
[15:55] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, then I don't know what to tell you
[15:55] <ubuntu1> ok
[15:55] <ubuntu1> :|
[15:55] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 if you've got enough internet for RIC chat, then you've enough to torrent 13.10 or 14.04
[15:55] <planetmaker> wilee-nilee, 18 months can't be true, if 13.x is already at EOL :)
[15:55] <ubuntu1> i think that with terminal i solve my problem for dl driver
[15:56] <phunyguy> cfhowlett, indeed.  ubuntu1, it may take a while, but you will get it eventually.
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, As I sid depends lately some were 9 months DO THE RESEARCH.
[15:56] <wilee-nilee> said
[15:56] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, with 13.04 on up for no LTS releases, they changed it to 9 months
[15:56] <cobalt237> testdr: okay, so comparing to my other machine, it also has the dns set to "<IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>", I didn't notice the space originally
[15:56] <ubuntu1> git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git uvcvideo
[15:56] <ubuntu1> Cloning into 'uvcvideo'...
[15:56] <staya> shaddowed, thanks a bunch
[15:57] <ubuntu1> does it solve my problem?
[15:57] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, This stuff is on the web, look it up, rather than argue a moot point here.
[15:57] <ubuntu1> UVC
[15:57] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee, relax man
[15:57] <phunyguy> please
[15:57] <ubuntu1> it is Downloading .....
[15:57] <planetmaker> everything's on the web. somewhere ;)
[15:57] <planetmaker> but nvm
[15:58] <Macer> can't seem to find the option where you zoom the desktop cube out
[15:58] <Macer> :/
[15:58] <ubuntu1> git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git uvcvideo
[15:58] <ubuntu1> Cloning into 'uvcvideo'...
[15:58] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, True, I like the nick though, as an armchair astronomer.
[15:58] <ubuntu1> ?????????????????????
[15:58] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, please stop that
[15:58] <ubuntu1> what?
[15:58] <phunyguy> pasting that output to the channel
[15:58] <ubuntu1> 17%
[15:58] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, I have no idea why that is relevant to anything.
[15:58] <testdr> cobalt237: then you can try with nslookup if the comast-dns-server works .. and if so, the setting in the network-config, try first only one ip-address
[15:58] <planetmaker> my nick taken literally pays my bills ;)
[15:59] <Greek-Boy> I did sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade from the command line and got some erros and segmentation faults. Now apt says segmentation fault tree. I search online and the advice I gathered is to do sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin and then start synaptic. The thing is this, I am remotely connected to this machine through SSH command line.
[15:59] <ubuntu1> what? relevant or not?
[15:59] <phunyguy> Greek-Boy, synaptic is irrelevant there.
[15:59] <testdr> cobalt237: comcast ... dns is <IP_ADDRESS> for first dns-server
[15:59] <phunyguy> Greek-Boy, just do your apt-get commands after deleting the contents of that folder
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> Greek-Boy, Pastebin the the commands and all the proceeding text with errors
 why?
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> all the*
[16:00] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, what are you talking about??
 why stop it?
[16:00] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, why are you pasting the git stuff to the channel?
[16:00] <Greek-Boy> wilee-nilee: Will paste shortly.
[16:01] <ubuntu1> what does UVC video work?
[16:01] <ubuntu1> it provide my driver for webcam or not?
[16:01] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, do you have a real support question?
[16:01] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 try it
[16:01] <wilee-nilee> Greek-Boy, Cool just include it with your posts on the to the channel, I'm on my way out is all.
[16:01] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, that is the 2.6 kernel branch anyway
[16:01] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, pretty outdated.
[16:02] <ubuntu1> what is kenrel branch?
[16:02] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, are you still asking for support on 12.10?
[16:02] <ubuntu1> yeah
[16:02] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 still not supported
[16:02] <ubuntu1> ubuntu 12.10
[16:02] <Macer> is there a way to zoom the desktop cube out for compiz?
[16:02] <cfhowlett> ubuntu1 still end of life
[16:02] <Macer> i keep looking for the option but the zoon only lets you increast it and not decrease it
[16:02] <phunyguy> ubuntu1, it is still not supported anymore.
[16:02] <Macer> :/
[16:03] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hello
[16:03] <phunyguy> hello CREEEPEREXPLOSIV do you have a support question.
[16:03] <cobalt237> testdr: both of the 75.75.* dns IPs work for nslookup for google.com
[16:04] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> no
[16:04] <phunyguy> CREEEPEREXPLOSIV, then please leave this channel clear for support
[16:05] <g0bl1n> how can one check if there are other accesses to x11vnc ?
[16:05] <testdr> cobalt237: ok -- for multiple dns-server-addresses in the network-settings, they should be seperated with a komma (i m quit shure about 80%) -- you can correct it like this and try again
[16:05] <ubuntu> ok
[16:05] <ubuntu> nobody that help me?
[16:05] <cfhowlett> !ask|ubuntu
[16:05] <phunyguy> Guest34033, if you keep asking I will remove you from the channel.
[16:06] <cobalt237> testdr: that's just in the form field, it's not an input
[16:06] <phunyguy> Guest34033, either upgrade, or stop asking please.
[16:06] <cobalt237> I'm not setting <IP_ADDRESS> anywhere
[16:06] <Guest34033> ok
[16:06] <Guest34033> nobody know openvc here in visual stadio?
[16:07] <phunyguy> !ot | Guest34033
[16:07] <cfhowlett> Guest34033 visual studio support is in Microsoft - are you sure you're in the right channel?
[16:07] <Guest34033> ok baba
[16:07] <Guest34033> :|
[16:08] <Guest34033> i not upgrade my ubuntu :|
[16:08] <testdr> cobalt237: sorry, then i am off -- it looks like i have a different ubuntu-12.04 version than you ... -- i was speaking about the system-configuration for the network and there for the ip4-settings
[16:08] <Guest34033> but U not help me
[16:08] <Guest34033> only one sulution ....................
[16:08] <cfhowlett> Guest34033 you were several times how to upgrade
[16:08] <cobalt237> testdr: how do you go into it?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> *told*
[16:09] <Guest34033> its wrong !!!! U should help many solution .... not only upgrade upgrade upgrade..........
[16:09] <Guest34033> :|||||||||||||||||||
[16:09] <Aaruni> problems with fglrx and amd APU. the GUI is lost as soon as fglrx is installed. it doesn't come back after purging fglrx. help ?
[16:09] <testdr> cobalt237: system-configuration (from the menu .. or drop-down from top-bar) and then the network-icon ...
[16:09] <dusf123> !amazon
[16:09] <Aaruni> Guest34033: official support is only available for officially supported versions..
[16:09] <planetmaker> Guest34033, they *should* do nothing. They all do it voluntarily. So watch your tongue, if you expect help
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> Guest34033, A eol looses the standard ubuntu repos link.
[16:10] <dusf123> i have tried removing the amazon spam ubuntu comes bundled with using a fixbuntu.com script, it output 'enjoy your privacy' but i still receive amazon search results from the dash. how do i remove this please?
[16:10] <cobalt237> testdr: sorry, I see "system settings" and just wanted to verify.  If I go into that I see the wired info and I have an options button in the bottom right
[16:10] <XPS1105> !ubuntu
[16:10] <cfhowlett> !nounity|dusf123
[16:10] <Macer> wow.. compiz support in unity is a bit broken
[16:10] <unrsi325> Hello there. I’m posting my problem here because I don’t know where to post it. Since today I can’t access some websites (it’s not a DNS problem, I can’t ping the IP). Any idea where it could come from ?
[16:10] <Macer> cssm tends to break everything and spaces are broken :/
[16:10] <cfhowlett> or is that "no lens" ?
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> dusf123, Turn it off in privacy, that is all you had to do. ;)
[16:11] <planetmaker> unrsi325, if you can ping the IP but not the server by name, then it's exactly a DNS problem
[16:11] <planetmaker> oh... "can't"
[16:11] <unrsi325> planetmaker: I can’t ping the IP
[16:11] <unrsi325> yeah
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> dusf123, Be careful in just buying into a rhetoric and running commands.
[16:12] <Jordan_U> !adlens | dusf123
[16:12] <cobalt237> testdr: is there a current working document describing the ubuntu network configuration?  I feel like it's always changing
[16:12] <testdr> cobalt237: you can try to start it directly out of a terminal with command: nm-connection-editor
[16:12] <dusf123> wilee-nilee: then https://fixubuntu.com/, makes no sense as it says i need to run a script! thanks i will look in privacy
[16:12] <cobalt237> testdr: Is 12.04 all using resolv.conf?
[16:13] <cobalt237> *12.04+
[16:13] <testdr> cobalt237: as far as i know: yes
[16:13] <dusf123> Jordan_U: thanks for the blog entry, i think i will disable in prviacy and remove the package
[16:13]  * dusf123 applauds ubuntu support.
[16:13] <cobalt237> testdr: is that autogenerated from something?
[16:13] <Jordan_U> dusf123: You're welcome.
[16:13] <dusf123> !adlens
[16:13] <dusf123> *click*
[16:14] <dusf123> :)
[16:14] <cobalt237> testdr: "/etc/resolv.conf" specifically
[16:14] <testdr> cobalt237: depends on what happens, for example if using dhcp with the dns-server settings, then its overwritten
[16:14] <Macer> when i drag winows between spaces compiz freezes :/
[16:14] <Macer> i need to HUP compiz to get it working again
[16:15] <cobalt237> testdr: dns-server settings?
[16:15] <cobalt237> Is that when running a dns-server locally?
[16:15] <testdr> cobalt237: resolv.conf has the dns-server-settings inside, nameserver blablablab
[16:15] <cobalt237> testdr: kk, thanks for your time
[16:16] <testdr> cobalt237: cant you run the nm-connection-editor ..?
[16:16] <Macer> blah. let me try a closed video driver
[16:16] <Macer> maybe that's the problem
[16:18] <cobalt237> testdr: I will try, but I have an appt and will try later
[16:18] <cobalt237> thanks again
[16:20] <Aaruni> Repost1 : problems with fglrx and amd APU. the GUI is lost as soon as fglrx is installed. it doesn't come back after purging fglrx. help ?
[16:20] <Macer> yeah there's a problem with the desktop spaces
[16:21] <Macer> when you drag windows between the "spaces" unity/compiz freezes
[16:21] <Macer> :/
[16:21] <Macer> i can't find any information about this
[16:21] <Macer> but i am having that problem on 2 different systems
[16:23] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hi
[16:33] <Macer> ok. i'm at  a loss and i guess nobody here knows why compiz freezes when dragging windows between workspaces :/
[16:33] <Macer> guess i'll try a forum
[16:34] <phunyguy> Macer, sorry we couldn't be of more help :(
[16:34] <Macer> phunyguy: yah. it seems like a huge bug.
[16:34] <Macer> i'm surprised more people haven't ran into it
[16:35] <phunyguy> It may not be that widespread.  if you mentioned it before, I apologize, what ahrdware?
[16:35] <phunyguy> hardware*
[16:35] <Macer> AMD/ATI gpus
[16:35] <Macer> but on 2 different systems
[16:35] <Macer> same problem
[16:35] <Macer> one is an AMD A10.. the other is an i5 laptop with an amd
[16:35] <Macer> er.. ati
[16:35] <phunyguy> eehh... that is part of the reason.  Linux and ATI doesn't really mix well.  The open source drivers are mediocre, and the closed source drivers aren't maintained by the linux kernel devs.
[16:36] <phunyguy> makes it REALLY tough to keep things working outside of Windows
[16:36] <RWOverdijk> Can anyone explain why file descriptors are set to 1024 by default?   We cannot help that the hardware vendor keeps a tight lid on the proprietary driver source.
[16:37] <phunyguy> Macer, I do it on my systems all the time, but they have intel video hardware
[16:37] <Macer> blah lol
[16:37] <Macer> let me try the updates driver and see if it still breaks :/
[16:37] <Macer> that sucks
[16:37] <phunyguy> it is 100% ATI related.  I can promise that.
[16:38] <ysh> does cron use the same timezone as date command ?
[16:38] <phunyguy> ysh, cron uses whatever timezone you have set.
[16:38] <g0bl1n> how can one check if there are other accesses to x11vnc ?
[16:38] <phunyguy> date can be made to use another timezone.
[16:39] <Jordan_U> Macer: Have you filed a bug report?
[16:39] <llutz> ysh: unless you set CRON_TZ to something different, yes
[16:40] <ysh> phunyguy: so my date command output is in UTC, so cron will the same?
[16:40] <pedestri> Ubuntu desktop and server have the same kern? and same about over low-level access?
[16:40] <TJ-> Macer: which ubuntu release?
[16:41] <gewoonm> hi y'all! Anybody know how I can create virtual, encrypted volumes (like TrueCrypt), that can expand when more files are added to it?
[16:42] <phunyguy> ysh, what is the output of cat /etc/timezone?
[16:43] <daftykins> gewoonm: If you only encrypt where files are, that makes it pretty obvious that there is encrypted data in a finite range. Only full volume encryption makes sense really, what's the application? (Reason for encryption)
[16:43] <pedestri> i dont want to piss anyone off, but does powershell for windows make it as lower level acess as linuz?
[16:43] <daftykins> pedestri: ask in ##windows
[16:44] <daftykins> it is pretty powerful but it's off topic here
[16:44] <phunyguy> pedestri, probably, but that is not what this channel is for
[16:44] <daftykins> and you should know that.
[16:44] <gewoonm> daftykins: application is storing my family photos in Google Drive. I want to store them per year, so for some years I have a predefined size, but obviously for this year the volume should expand :)
[16:45] <pedestri> well im just debating on wether or not to stick with 8.1
[16:45] <pedestri> i spent 90 on it, but i like ubuntu also
[16:45] <daftykins> gewoonm: you're aware that encrypting at your end won't make them encrypted on Google's end?
[16:45] <phunyguy> pedestri, again, not the proper channel
[16:45] <garshasb> hi
[16:46] <gewoonm> daftykins: the idea was creating an encrypted volume in the Google Drive, so that it would synchronize a year as a full block of random looking data
[16:46] <TJ-> gewoonm: You could use ecryptfs, which encrypts per-file including file-names
[16:46] <banana82> HALLO
[16:46] <banana82> !LIST
[16:46] <gewoonm> TJ- that would make it easier on the syncing for Google
[16:47] <gewoonm> TJ- but wouldn't that still give Google some idea at what I'm storing?
[16:47] <gewoonm> TJ- or am I being to paranoid now ;)
[16:47] <daftykins> gewoonm: you were too paranoid from the beginning :) look into owncloud if you don't trust Google
[16:48] <phunyguy> owncloud++
[16:48] <TJ-> gewoonm: And probably really easy to achieve, since Ubuntu uses it to provide encrypted home directories already, so if you have one, your content is probably already encrypted (see "/home/.ecrypt/$USER/.Private/")
[16:48] <gewoonm> TJ- yeah, but since Google Drive is living in user space, it would see the files un-encrypted also
[16:49] <gewoonm> daftykins: well the news is that NSA is intercepting photos for facial recognition since 2011, so that's where I got my paranoia from :D:D
[16:49] <TJ-> gewoonm: Sizes will be slightly larger than the original, names are encrypted
[16:50] <TJ-> gewoonm: depends on how you configure it, and how you configure the source ecryptfs
[16:50] <daftykins> gewoonm: lol.
[16:50] <gewoonm> daftykins phunyguy owncloud is nice, but google stores 100GB on multiple servers for next to no money, I couldn't get a host to do that
[16:50] <phunyguy> gewoonm, my owncloud setup has 4TB to work with.
[16:51] <gewoonm> daftykins if you're interested: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27663130
[16:51] <gewoonm> phunyguy but where do you host it?
[16:51] <gewoonm> phunyguy if it's in your own home, still not a good place for backups (my usecase)
[16:51] <phunyguy> gewoonm, at my house
[16:51] <phunyguy> ahh backups, yeah owncloud is never a good use case for that
[16:52] <gewoonm> phunyguy, sorry should've mentioned that
[16:52] <gewoonm> full usecase is storing my photos encrypted offshore in a really cheap way
[16:52] <gewoonm> hahaha
[16:52] <phunyguy> unless you get a VPS and put it there, but you won't get 100GB for cheap.
[16:53] <gewoonm> ecryptfs looks like the way to go then
[16:53] <gewoonm> Google offers 100GB for $2, don't think anybody can beat that
[16:54] <phunyguy> nope, but small price to pay for privacy
[16:54] <phunyguy> (or lack of)
[16:54] <Macer> well.. probably not the best thing to do
[16:54] <Macer> i installed the ati drivers from the ati website
[16:55] <Macer> instead of using hte repo ones
[16:55] <Macer> lets see if it's still broken :D
[16:55] <phunyguy> yikes :)
[16:55] <Macer> yeah... bold move
[16:55] <daftykins> Macer: please keep to as few lines as possible to avoid unnecessary unreadable channel spam
[16:55] <gewoonm> phunyguy: true, but let's see them cracking an AES-cypher
[16:56] <Macer> wow that actually worked
[16:56] <phunyguy> gewoonm, I am curious to see how all of this works for you.  Good luck
[16:56] <phunyguy> Macer, if it works, then file a bug stating that
[16:56] <gewoonm> phunyguy daftyskins TJ- thank you, I've got something to play with this weekend!
[16:56] <Macer> phunyguy: heh.. well there was another problem using the proprietary drivers was giving me.. i'm about to test that now
[16:56] <daftykins> gewoonm: good luck
[16:56] <Macer> resuming from suspend would completely freeze the laptop
[16:57] <Macer> lets see if i have that same issue
[16:57] <Greek-B0y> wilee-nilee: Sorry I didn't manage to paste those apt-get segfaults. I rebooted the machine and have now lost remote access. I guess apt-get messed something up that is critical of the boot up process. Now I am going to have to get the machine in and check it out. :-(
[16:58] <Macer> awesome.. everything works now :D
[16:58] <phunyguy> Macer, awesome!
[16:58] <phunyguy> yeah you should file a bug and notate the exact version of fglrx that works
[16:58] <Macer> and i just asked on a forum... heh... if someone replies to it i'll put my findings there
[16:58] <gewoonm> daftyskins phunyguy TJ- I'll post my progress here: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5354846 (if you're interested) . For now, thanks again. Dinner time now :D
[16:59] <phunyguy> !bug | Macer
[16:59] <phunyguy> cya gewoonm
[17:01] <Macer> phunyguy: filing that bug requires making yet another acct for something
[17:01] <phunyguy> :(
[17:01] <phunyguy> well it is ultimately up to you, but I still think you should
[17:01] <Macer> phunyguy: someone needs to make 1 bug reporter to rule them all and 1 forum to rule them all heh
[17:02] <Macer> maybe they should all just resort to usenet again.. like before it was used for piracy :P
[17:03] <Macer> nowadays every piece of hardware and software requires making 10 accounts in various places just to do stuff like ask a question in a forum or file a bug. big reason you have people coming here asking the same questions over and over ;)
[17:03] <Macer> ah well.. thanks for the help tho... much appreciated
[17:03] <llutz> Macer: usenet still is alive and helpful, much more than most of those web-forums. just ignore the bin-hierarchy
[17:04] <Macer> llutz: yeah i'll set it up later today .. i meant to do it sooner but just hadn't gotten around to it
[17:04] <Macer> but i am happy that all that was required was an updated ati driver.. i wonder why the fglrx repo doesn't have an updated one
[17:05] <Macer> does ati not allow ubuntu to push out an update to their driver?
[17:06] <TBotNik> All: Running CLI: dmesg | grep -i 'scsi' | grep -i removable, need to parse result of:  [ 344.636679] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk, to get the "SDC" value.  Where is a good HOWTO on this, been searching 3 days for this solution.
[17:10] <Vladislav> How many commercial linux distros are there?
[17:11] <llutz> Vladislav: ask in ##linux
[17:12] <Vladislav> llutz: I can't speak there :/
[17:12] <llutz> !register | Vladislav
[17:13] <Vladislav> ubottu: Thanks!
[17:14] <moneycat_> is there a way to "alt tab" out of a program once i am running it from cli?
[17:15] <ipfaffy> moneycat_: bg?
[17:15] <FinnTheMew> moneycat_: Is it still in the console?
[17:15] <mark06> why did juju moved to github?
[17:15] <mark06> *move
[17:15] <FinnTheMew> If not, then it should be pretty easy to Alt-Tab to another window
[17:15] <moneycat_> umm... maybe i'm not explaining myself correctly
[17:15] <moneycat_> say i run a program in cli
[17:15] <moneycat_> like irssi
[17:15] <moneycat_> how do i get back to cli without closing the program and keeping it running?
[17:16] <FinnTheMew> If it's in the terminal, you have to run it through screen
[17:16] <moneycat_> what do you mean by "run it through the screen"?
[17:16] <FinnTheMew> The command "screen"
[17:16] <moneycat_> ah
[17:16] <FinnTheMew> Such as "screen bash"
[17:16] <FinnTheMew> Then, if you want to go out, press Ctrl, and then A, and then D
[17:17] <ipfaffy> if you're running a long command, I believe you can also hit ctrl + z, and then run the bg command, and it will finish processing
[17:17] <FinnTheMew> Some programs, however, have the ability to run in the background themselves
[17:17] <ipfaffy> but screen/tmux is definitely a better option
[17:17] <moneycat_> ah ok gotcha
[17:17] <moneycat_> i'll google the manuals on screen and bg
[17:18] <moneycat_> is there any other related ones i should read up on?
[17:20] <pedestri> my down arrow is broken on my laptop, i was thinking about going into keyboard and making a custom shortcut to remap the down arrow to a different key
[17:20] <pedestri> but i dont know the command
[17:25] <Flolila> hey there i have the strangest /etc/shadow/ - could somebody look into my pastebin? http://pastebin.com/jZakU154
[17:25] <Flolila> what is this root entry?
[17:26] <Flolila> i dont know anyone from hungary
[17:27] <llutz> Flolila: whats strange with that?
[17:27] <Flolila> this blabla.hu
[17:28] <llutz> Flolila: man shadow  "encrypted password"
[17:28] <Flolila> do this .hu doesnt have any meaning?
[17:28] <loa> Flolila, ahaha
[17:28] <llutz> Flolila: nope
[17:28] <loa> it is hash...
[17:28] <Flolila> puh
[17:29] <Flolila> thanks
[17:30] <Joel> as root can I load an ssh key into another users ssh-agent?
[17:31] <miraiE> I wanna ask something: anyone knows why http://ubottu/ljl/apt is forbidden?
[17:32] <miraiE> * http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt
[17:32] <planetmaker> Joel as your you can become any user, so yes, you can by becoming that user temporarily
[17:32] <llutz> miraiE: ask the webmaster of ubottu.com
[17:32] <Joel> planetmaker, "as root"
[17:33] <daftykins> miraiE: more to the point, what are you looking for?
[17:33] <planetmaker> then make it a small bash script which uses the su command and ends it, too
[17:33] <miraiE> llutz: I think they are here
[17:34] <miraiE> daftykins: that site is useful for the people here
[17:34] <miraiE> people with limited internet access
[17:34] <daftykins> miraiE: in what way? what specifically?
[17:34] <Joel> planetmaker, I think you're not following. but that's ok.
[17:34] <llutz> daftykins: it refers to !offline factoid, i guess
[17:35] <miraiE> the site is apt-web,  which is apt packages link generator
[17:36] <daftykins> miraiE: as in a search function that returns a direct URL to a .deb ?
[17:36] <miraiE> fortunately, I have downloaded the source code of that site and now, I host it in http://apt-web.tk please have a look
[17:36] <daftykins> miraiE: so you've intentionally broken copyright and reworked it for your own means?
[17:37] <miraiE> no, it's GPL
[17:37] <daftykins> miraiE: you have an email for the dev, but i haven't seen him active on Freenode for a few days... have you tried contacting?
[17:37] <miraiE> it's useful for people here mostly in my country
[17:38] <daftykins> miraiE: yes you keep repeating the same statement...
[17:38] <miraiE> daftykins: yes, I have send email to the developers a few days ago, but no reply since
[17:39] <miraiE> is it breaking the license, daftykins?
[17:39] <daftykins> miraiE: the tiscali.it address?
[17:39] <miraiE> daftykins, yes it is
[17:41] <daftykins> miraiE: i'm sorry, at first i thought you were referring to something on the main ubottu page. that part looks fine i suppose, but i have no idea why it has been blocked. however, i do know that that user has become somewhat... estranged to the ubuntu community if you understand my meaning
[17:44] <miraiE> daftykins: estranged, do you mean he goes away?
[17:44] <daftykins> yes
[17:44] <daftykins> miraiE: i see your page only offers i386 though
[17:44] <miraiE> i don't have 64bit installation
[17:46] <chaojimpe> ..
[17:46] <daftykins> miraiE: sure but you want to help others in your country right? :)
[17:48] <miraiE> daftykins: yes, i'm waiting for my friend's help for providing the databases
[17:49] <ck> cezik
[17:53] <chaojimpe__> ..
[17:59] <daum> hey guys
[17:59] <daum> anyone getting hash sum mismatches today?  W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[18:02] <MK`> Damn, didn't learn about Ubuntu One shutting down the file service until I got repeated messages it was failing so sync. Is there no wait to disable it trying to sync or should I just uninstall the client now?
[18:02] <poochi> can somebody tell me what CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO does ? (linux kernel)
[18:04] <llutz> poochi: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/LOCALVERSION_AUTO.html
[18:09] <poochi> hey can you tell me what LOCALVERSION_AUTO in .config does ?
[18:10] <poochi> sorry
[18:11] <poochi> LOCALVERSION_AUTO in .config doesnt produce intended results while CONFIG_LOCALVERSION="Gowtham" in .config does  . any pointers ?
[18:11] <llutz> poochi: you may ask in ##linux
[18:12] <poochi> thanks
[18:13] <poochi> ##linux has no members
[18:13] <llutz> poochi: about 1500
[18:22] <Drewcifer> Just attempted to load a live version of Ubuntu onto a machine via a USB drive and Universal USB loader. Upon start-up it began the initialization stuff and got stuck on Call Trace: rest_init. I am a super-n00b, what should I do?
[18:26] <daftykins> Drewcifer: what kind of system? know any of its' hardware? specifically graphics
[18:30] <Drewcifer> Just attempted to load a live version of Ubuntu onto a machine via a USB drive and Universal USB loader. Upon start-up it began the initialization stuff and got stuck on Call Trace: rest_init. I am a super-n00b, what should I do?
[18:30] <daftykins> Drewcifer: i already replied to you and you have ignored it
[18:30] <daftykins> Drewcifer: what kind of system? know any of its' hardware? specifically graphics
[18:30] <Drewcifer> sorry
[18:31] <Drewcifer> got lost in the join/quit stuff
[18:31] <Drewcifer> Its an HP laptop, I had just did this yesterday with the same ISO different USB device and it loaded fine.
[18:31] <Drewcifer> I killed a machine about two months ago when I had this similar problem and I force stopped the initialization
[18:32] <daftykins> Drewcifer: so why aren't you using the known-good flash drive? what do you mean 'initialisation' ?
[18:36] <daftykins> Drewcifer: can you discover the hardware in this system?
[18:36] <daftykins> Drewcifer: or can you find the model # and find specifications online?
[18:36] <daftykins> help me... to help you :)
[18:37] <candelabra> I've got a launcher that launches version 5 of a program via program.sh, I just downloaded version 6 that includes a program.sh file.... how can i replace the launcher item? ubuntu 14.04
[18:37] <Drewcifer> Flash drive was a trial run yesterday to learn how to use Univ. USB Load. I then went out and bought a 1TB extHDD with the intentions of making it a portable OS and general storage. I am 99.9% windows and I run computationally-intensive statistical analysis software, on complex models, ram is limiting on my primary windows machine. My back-up windows machine has more ram but the process is
[18:37] <Drewcifer> maxed on complex models. I would like to run a light OS, I have had sucess with puppy in the past, but I thought Ubuntu would give me more bells and whistles.
[18:38] <pratz> I install 14.04 few days back and now system hangs on grub screen
[18:38] <pratz> even keyboard is hanged and I can not do any activity
[18:39] <pratz> and I see this grub version https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/2.02~beta2-9
[18:39] <Drewcifer> daftykins: Regardless, I placed the USB in the backup machine, booted to USB, and I got a black screen with white text that doesn't fit the screen. it looks like install or intialization from command line. There is a _ prompt but no response from any input.
[18:40] <Drewcifer> caps lock is flashing
[18:40] <swenzel> hey, i found this article and wanted to use it. but i have ubuntu 14.04 x64 and there seems to be no file 95-keymap.rules i also tried 'locate 95-keymap.rules' but got no result... any ideas?
[18:40] <daftykins> Drewcifer: ok, md5 hash the downloaded ISO to confirm it's not corrupt and re-make the flash drive after a full format
[18:40] <swenzel>  http://rebelliard.com/enabling-scrolling-using-the-microsoft-natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000s-zoom-slider-on-ubuntu-12-10/
[18:41] <daftykins> swenzel: did you 'sudo updatedb' prior to 'locate x' ?
[18:42] <Drewcifer> daftykins: I am stuck in a black command screen that looks stuck. Should I just hold down PWR? I don't mind remaking the USB, I just don't want to damage anything on my back-up machine, it has important stuff on the windows partition of the built in HDD.
[18:42] <swenzel> daftykins: now I have, but still no result
[18:42] <daftykins> Drewcifer: attempting to boot on it will not have attempted to mount any Windows partitions, so yeah just turn it off.
[18:42] <daftykins> swenzel: create it :) is the best advice i can give
[18:43] <Drewcifer> I thought that too until I had a machine not boot to Windows after interupting a Linux initialization. But it was a corrupt HDD to start.
[18:43] <swenzel> daftykins: not sure what to put into it
[18:44] <stevenpage129> looking for support with apt-get/dpkg, any suggestions on what a good room would be?
[18:45] <daftykins> swenzel: i assume your guide was suggesting to do something with it, if not i have no idea sorry.
[18:46] <Drewcifer> Okie Doke, Windows booted normally. Sorry, I just cannot lose this machine. The last one died trying to install linux, but luckily it was junk and unimportant.
[18:47] <daftykins> Drewcifer: as a genuine tip, when it comes to technology, never even sacrifice known-good working systems at even the most basic level as booting a flash drive if they are important to you :)
[18:47] <TuxRescue> what are good places to chitchat with fellow ubuntu users other than #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> image it and backup the image
[18:47] <Drewcifer> I tried for three days to back it up using windows and I didn't have a big enough HDD.
[18:47] <jhutchins> daftykins: You don't need to format a drive if you're writing an image to it, that's redundant.
[18:47] <Drewcifer> Got a HDD and now I want to use it as my primary
[18:48] <daftykins> jhutchins: i know, but there's also no harm.
[18:48] <jack> stevenpage129, apt+dpkg are pretty much parts of the core
[18:48] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: On what platform?
[18:48] <Drewcifer> Im a sloppy users
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> !alis | TuxRescue
[18:49] <TuxRescue> that is quite useless as answer
[18:49] <jack> so any debian/ubuntu chan should do
[18:49] <stevenpage129> jhutchins: 12.04
[18:49] <TuxRescue> no
[18:49] <TuxRescue> you did not read my sentence properly then
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | TuxRescue how about this one.
[18:49] <Drewcifer> lol
[18:49] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[18:49] <Drewcifer> !attitude
[18:49] <stevenpage129> well, the issue seems that it would be simple to fix, but it has eluded me so far
[18:49] <stevenpage129> apt-get fails to create any uses
[18:49] <TuxRescue> only because i am not happy with your answer i have attitude problems?
[18:49] <TuxRescue> are you serious?
[18:49] <stevenpage129> users*
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> TuxRescue, Your question is not one of ubuntu support.
[18:50] <jack> man apt-get is good too
[18:50] <stevenpage129> one seconds, I have a question posted to ask ubuntu, and ill get the link fo ryou
[18:50] <TuxRescue> who is in charge here for stopping trolls?
[18:50] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Please summarize it here.
[18:50] <TuxRescue> dont answer then. a bad answer is a useless answer
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> TuxRescue, I'm a regular helper here, hardly a troll, read the link abd the channels policy period.
[18:50] <TuxRescue> you are what?
[18:51] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Generally apt-get should not create users.
[18:51] <stevenpage129> jhutchins: simply put, when i install any package that requires the installation script to create a new user, it fails
[18:51] <TuxRescue> now who is the one with attitude problems
[18:51] <TuxRescue> i am curious
[18:51] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Ah!  A well stated problem.
[18:51] <stevenpage129> for example, when installing varnish, i get the error "invalid user: varnish", or varnishlog
[18:51] <stevenpage129> but /etc/passwd is not chattr +i
[18:51] <jack> jhutchins, a few postinst scripts do create users
[18:52] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Can you give us the error message, or approximate it?
[18:52] <jack> like varnish....
[18:52] <stevenpage129> Setting up varnish (3.0.2-1ubuntu0.1) ...
[18:52] <stevenpage129> install: invalid user `varnish'
[18:52] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: I mean what apt-get says?
[18:52] <stevenpage129> dpkg: error processing varnish (--configure):
[18:52] <CodePulsar> How can I enable SSD Trim support if I've installed Ubuntu on an encypted partition?
[18:52] <stevenpage129>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[18:52] <gilligan_> anyone here running ubuntu on  macbook6.2 ?
[18:52] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: Excellent, thank you.
[18:53] <stevenpage129> at first I figured it was an issue with a particular packages installation script, but it appears when trying to install any package that requires a user
[18:53] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: /etc/passwd should be owned and writable by root, world readable.  Is it?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> stevenpage129, apt-get does not make users.
[18:54] <stevenpage129> mind you, if i create the users manually, and run apt-get install -f ,  the installation completes with success
[18:54] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: So you can create users as root (or with sudo), and of course you're running apt-get/dpkg as root or with sudo, right?
[18:54] <stevenpage129> right
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> stevenpage129, In ubuntu with a desktop?
[18:55] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: That's very odd behavior, it would suggest that something is broken with dpkg.
[18:55] <stevenpage129> sevrer
[18:55] <stevenpage129> server edition, LTS
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> cool
[18:55] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: What about dpkg-configure (or recnfigure)?
[18:56] <daftykins> gilligan_: imagining for a moment that the answer is yes, what would your actual question be?
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> CodePulsar, trim is not just a package, but a set of config mods
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> and a cron if you like
[18:57] <pratz> hello guys
[18:57] <alcides> guys, I can for my connection through a vpn? I mean... if the vpn is down there is no internet... right now it starts to use the direct link to access everything...
[18:57] <stevenpage129> like I said, if i user "useradd" and create the users and groups manually, and use "apt-get install -f", it completes with success. as part of the install script, i'm fairly certain apt-get calls dpkg --configure (dpkg: error processing varnish (--configure))
[18:57] <CodePulsar> wilee-nilee: any tutorial, wiki, blog I can look at to enable TRIM for encypted partitions?
[18:57] <CodePulsar> *encrypted
[18:57] <pratz> my system hangs on grub screen. I am using 14.04
[18:57] <stevenpage129> and i can still install and install other packages just fine...
[18:57] <gilligan_> daftykins, well turns outs its not as much an easy ride with  linux on macbook air as i thought..  right now i am still trying out how to even control display brightness
[18:57] <pratz> grub version https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/2.02~beta2-9
[18:58] <pratz> any ideas what to do next ?
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> CodePulsar, Sure I was looking for the one I used, https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[18:58] <gilligan_> daftykins, also there is a bug with suspend/resume where the sata controller goes nuts and i only find rather vague descriptions how to work around this
[18:59] <gilligan_> daftykins, like this  https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62351
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> CodePulsar, Not sure on encrypted is all.
[18:59] <stevenpage129> 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1983 Jun  3 20:11 /etc/passwd
[18:59] <CodePulsar> There is special config needed when using encypted partition
[18:59] <stevenpage129> 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1268 Jun  3 20:09 /etc/group
[18:59] <Flolila> is there any linux audioplayer that can read tag embedded covers?
[18:59] <CodePulsar> wilee-nilee: the config is different when using encryption
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> pratz, Just hangs, but will still boot if you choose the OS?
[19:00] <Lucax> hello, my backuprogram in ubuntu is giving an error: no connection to backend, does anyone know how to solve this issue?
[19:00] <captain-nemo> i heard someone mention the resume/suspend problem...
[19:00] <captain-nemo> just now
[19:00] <captain-nemo> *saw not heard of course
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> CodePulsar, Yes, I assumed that was the case, encryption is a good way to loose all the data, we see people here everyday in that circumstance.
[19:01] <pratz> wilee-nilee, even the keyboard is hanged
[19:01] <stevenpage129> and if there was something wrong with the package manager, it seems to be confined to creating and removing system users... because I can still install any package without this requirement as needed, and updates still work as expected
[19:02] <SheerLucidity614> stevenpage129: It really sounds like a permissions problem to me.
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> pratz, So if you get to grub it does not automatically boot after the count down? Real exacting info is important here.
[19:02] <stevenpage129> me too, but i simply cannot figure out where
[19:02] <stevenpage129> hmm, maybe i should try again, but running strace on apt-get
[19:03] <jhutchins> stevenpage129: What if you become root before you run apt-get?
[19:03] <pratz> wilee-nilee, no it does not automatically boots :(
[19:03] <daftykins> gilligan_: oh right, things far beyond that i am familiar with then... you did use the mac ISOs to install from i take it?
[19:04] <SheerLucidity614> jhutchins: sounds like a permissions problem for the dpkg app
[19:04] <user1> is there a similar free tool for linux like this ? http://www.5pmweb.com/images/timeline_feature.gif
[19:04] <captain-nemo> can anyone recommend a better irc client than xchat for the unity desktop?
[19:04] <xangua> !irc | captain-nemo
[19:04] <daftykins> captain-nemo: look into weechat perhaps
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> pratz, Not sure on the keyboard issue, is this a laptop or desktop, if a desktop have you tried other keyboards? Have you modified grub, and is this a new install and has it always bee this way? multiple questions here.
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> been*
[19:05] <captain-nemo> thx
[19:06] <Flolila> hm
[19:06] <pratz> wilee-nilee, its a desktop. have tried with other keyboards (they hang too). I have not modified grub. I had installed the system a week back
[19:06] <Flolila> any ideas how to check my .mp3-file integrity?
[19:06] <stevenpage129> switching to root, removing the package in question, along with the required users from passwd and group, and trying the installation again, resulted in the same issue
[19:07] <daftykins> Flolila: re-rip from CD :)
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> pratz, Was it ever working correctly?
[19:07] <Flolila> too much work :/
[19:07] <Flolila> but the problem is my dover.jpg is embedded in the files
[19:08] <Flolila> now linux seems to have problems reading it
[19:10] <captain-nemo> Empathy is better but I might use the firefox add-on
[19:11] <llutz> !info mp3val | Flolila
[19:11] <SheerLucidity614> stevenpage129: I found where you asked the question on the ubuntu help site and withdrew it.  Otherwise, I can't find a similar situation
[19:11] <stevenpage129> sorry i moved it to serverfdault
[19:11] <stevenpage129> serverfault
[19:12] <stevenpage129> http://serverfault.com/questions/601599/package-manager-cannot-create-users-installation-script-fails
[19:12] <Flolila> thanks already tried it but i would prefer something that can do batch
[19:12] <SheerLucidity614> ah!  Sounds like dpkg has a permissions problem, but you've done everything I would have done
[19:13] <stevenpage129> apt-get or dpkg should run okay with strace attached to it, no?
[19:13] <stevenpage129> looks like its my last resort
[19:13] <jack> !info dpkg
[19:13] <nectarys> hi, how to activate the usb support on virtualbox, please ?
[19:14] <yetanotherx_> Hi, I'm having a problem with DNS resolution. For some reason, I cannot ping http://google.com, and ping gives me "destination host unreachable". I do host http://google.com, and it says it's not found 3(NXDOMAIN). However, pinging google.com (without the http://) works fine, and host google.com shows all of the IPs. What could be going on here?
[19:15] <jack> ping should always go to a raw host, without http://
[19:15] <stevenpage129> http:// is a protocol and not part of DNS?
[19:15] <llutz> yetanotherx_: http is a protocol, not a domain/hostname, so its ok
[19:15] <SheerLucidity614> stevenpage129:  I did find where someone had the same problem installing zentyl on 10.04 here https://forum.zentyal.org/index.php?topic=8251.0 and the fix there required a patch on the zentyl side
[19:15] <jack> exactly
[19:15] <yetanotherx_> Okay. I can't access http://google.com either though
[19:16] <SheerLucidity614> so, is it possible it's a bug in the app?
[19:16] <stevenpage129> i thought maybe the same thing, during the installation of another package (Mon). now im trying varnish, and it appears to be doing the same thing
[19:16] <stevenpage129> and they are fairly reputable
[19:16] <stevenpage129> but
[19:17] <stevenpage129> ill have to try something else that requires the installer script to create a user and see how that turns out
[19:17] <jack> yetanotherx_, telnet google.com 80
[19:17] <SheerLucidity614> damn ... looks like you'll have to do the initial install, add the required users, then reinstall, on anything new until you get it resolved
[19:17] <jack> if that works, your browser is screwed
[19:17] <SheerLucidity614> either that or try to reinstall dpkg
[19:18] <stevenpage129> SheerLucidity614: never though about that. ill try another package, and if it is varnish, ill appeal to them. if it doesn't work, ill have to try and reinstall dpkg
[19:18] <ubuntubox> hello, I am getting 2 "experienced an internal error" during login, I checked in /var/crash and found its because if virtualbox and mousepad (my default text editor) that I installed, so I removed virtualbox but still getting the same thing, its 14.04
[19:19] <SheerLucidity614> I'll give you fair warning though, Steve, whenever I've had to go to the "reinstall dpkg" route, I've ended up reinstalling the whole os
[19:19] <stevenpage129> unfortunately, this is a production system
[19:19] <ubuntubox> any help please?
[19:19] <stevenpage129> so id be better just implementing this workaround each time ^)^
[19:19] <Voyage> is there a similar free tool for linux like this ? http://www.5pmweb.com/images/timeline_feature.gif
[19:19] <SheerLucidity614> yikes, well, good luck!
[19:19] <SheerLucidity614> exit
[19:20] <trism> stevenpage129: in the question it says you manually added the users, how did you do it? the varnish postinst just uses adduser if getent passwd varnish returns nonzero exit
[19:21] <stevenpage129> trism: i just used useradd -r varnish; useradd -r varnishlog, and then apt-get install -f. afterwards, installation finished with success, and varnish is working
[19:21] <ubuntubox> Voyage, theres Redmine I think if you need project management software.
[19:23] <Voyage> ubuntubox,  k
[19:25] <Canaimero-rossie> hola cree
[19:25] <planetmaker> Voyage, the answer probably depends on what and how you use that software
[19:26] <planetmaker> I've been using GanttProject for fancy graphis similar to that
[19:26] <planetmaker> For the software projects management I use redmine - but there I'm not interested in times at all, but more its integrated bug tracker
[19:27] <planetmaker> though it supports assignements, time spent on stuff etc
[19:27] <Voyage> planetmaker,  project planning
[19:28] <planetmaker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_project_management_software has an overview over more software... not sure how helpful it is
[19:29] <ubuntubox> hello, I am getting 2 "experienced an internal error" during login, I checked in /var/crash and found its because if virtualbox and mousepad (my default text editor) that I installed, so I removed virtualbox but still getting the same thing, its 14.04
[19:30] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, care to pastebin that error log?
[19:30] <trism> stevenpage129: did you test that adduser works?
[19:31] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, looks like I don't have read access to that file...
[19:31] <Canaimero-rossie> jkñ
[19:32] <stevenpage129> trism: yes, i just created a test user with adduser, and all seems well
[19:32] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, then how did you find the errors?
[19:32] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, because it is named virtualbox crash
[19:33] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, so are you not able to log in at all?
[19:33] <e^> ubuntubox: use sudo to read it
[19:34] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, I am able to login, and everything just everytime I log in it is showing a popup window with "experienced an internal error"
[19:34] <phunyguy> e^, ubuntubox, also those crash files may not eb related to the failing login
[19:34] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, can you take a screenshot of the error?
[19:34] <phunyguy> OH you are talking about apport!
[19:35] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, yes apport
[19:35] <phunyguy> if you actually click through those, they will go away.
[19:35] <trism> stevenpage129: if you run getent passwd on some nonexistent user, do you get a nonzero exit status?
[19:35] <e^> i get a com-gtk-root (something like that) almost every time i login
[19:35] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, but I am getting it with everytime login
[19:36] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, and if you never want to see them again, change the /etc/default/apport file to contain "enabled=0" without the quotes.
[19:36] <phunyguy> then service apport restart
[19:37] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, (use sudo of course!)
[19:37] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, and when I said "click through those" I mean don't just close them... actually follow the prompts.
[19:38] <phunyguy> the Ubuntu dev team wants to know about bugs, and apport wants you to file them.
[19:38] <sydney> True. ;)
[19:38] <sydney> lam
[19:38] <sydney> oops
[19:39] <stevenpage129> if i run "getent passwd" with my regular user,  the passwd file is returned. if i change user to varnish, or any user system user, i get the same. from what I can tell, there is no error status
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, I like that, good drummer, the obligatory triplets. ;)
[19:39] <trism> stevenpage129: no i mean: getent passwd username; replacing username with a user that doesn't exist on your system
[19:39] <stevenpage129> ok one sec
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> oops wrong channe;
[19:40] <ubuntubox> e^, this crash file is full of binary data...
[19:40] <trism> stevenpage129: then: echo $?;
[19:40] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, yes ignore those.
[19:40] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, file the bugs, or disable apport.
[19:40] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, ok
[19:40] <skinux> I can access Windows drive using Nautilus, but via shell the directory is empty. And Eclipse says workspace (location on Windows drive) is invalid or read only.
[19:40] <skinux> How do I fix this?
[19:41] <trism> stevenpage129: the postinst is pretty simple so if adduser works, my only guess is you are getting something weird from getent, though if getent passwd alone works then I kind of doubt that too, so I'm pretty stumped
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> planetmaker, Sorry about that.
[19:41] <phunyguy> skinux, which directory is empty?
[19:41] <stevenpage129> if i run "getent passwd someuserthatdoesntexist" it just returns nothing
[19:41] <captain-nemo> whoever said it was right, encryption may be secure but it is a great way to lose data
[19:42] <trism> stevenpage129: yeah the output doesn't matter only the exit status, so: echo $?; after you run that
[19:42] <phunyguy> skinux, gvfs is a funny program which is how nautilus mounts devices... it uses its own interface as well as other gnome apps to access the drive directly via gvfs.  any non gvfs aware apps can find the data under /run/user/$uid/gvfs
[19:42] <skinux> Directory /media/<user>/os
[19:43] <phunyguy> skinux, oh wait, which ubuntu version?
[19:43] <skinux> 14.04
[19:43] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, hey BTW why "virualbox" is still is my /etc/init.d/ /etc/default folders after its removed
[19:43] <stevenpage129> getent passwd blah
[19:43] <stevenpage129> 0
[19:43] <phunyguy> skinux, yeah they moved that to /run/user/ a few releases back.
[19:43] <trism> stevenpage129: ahh there is your problem right there
[19:43] <trism> stevenpage129: it should be nonzero
[19:43] <trism> stevenpage129: weird
[19:43] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, because you didn't remove with the purge option
[19:43] <stevenpage129> hmm
[19:43] <mitt> hi peers!
[19:43] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, when you remove as just "remove" it keeps configs.
[19:44] <skinux> Well /run/<user> doesn't exist. Nautilus shows it as mounted to /media/<user>/os
[19:44] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, so I have to install it again and purge it?
[19:44] <mitt> bash:/sudo su hi_peers
[19:44] <phunyguy> skinux, /run/usr/<UID>
[19:44] <mitt> password:
[19:44] <phunyguy> ubuntubox, you should just be able to purge it
[19:45] <phunyguy> mitt?
[19:45] <mitt> bash:/exit
[19:45] <mitt> yes
[19:45] <mitt> &
[19:45] <mitt> ?
[19:45] <phunyguy> what are you doing?
[19:45] <mitt> me?
[19:45] <phunyguy> yes...
[19:45] <mitt> I am like a terminal
[19:45] <mitt> hahahah
[19:45] <streulma> hello, my notebook is a week back from repair (Acer) sometimes the webcam works, sometimes not, after 1 minute the light goes off. Same problem on Ubuntu and Windows 8.1. Now after repair, the problem cames back...
[19:45] <skinux> That only has '1000' which only contains Linux stuff
[19:45] <lykw> if you reinstalled your system with a slightly smaller partition size (like 2-3 GB), and you open gnome disk utility, and the partition containing your system is shown on the same side, say, the left of your disk block, does that necessarily mean that mostly the same areas of your HDD has been used for both your last and present system?
[19:45] <phunyguy> please stop doing that
[19:45] <mitt> me stop?
[19:45] <streulma> I thought it was an Ubuntu bug
[19:45] <ubuntubox> phunyguy, ok
[19:45] <phunyguy> mist, please leave this channel for support only
[19:45] <streulma> as I saw reported
[19:45] <phunyguy> mitt*
[19:45] <phunyguy> sorry mist
[19:45] <mitt> okay, sorry
[19:46] <phunyguy> :)
[19:46] <phunyguy> skinux, that is the directory you are looking for
[19:46] <phunyguy> skinux, is there gvfs under that?
[19:46] <streulma> is this a
[19:46] <stevenpage129> trism: it seems that i get the same from  getent passwd blah; echo $?;  on another system, but one that does not have this issue
[19:46] <streulma> n Ubuntu problem ?
[19:46] <stevenpage129> so i is even further stumped :P
[19:46] <sydney> streulma: Hmm
[19:46] <skinux> Yes, it's empty
[19:46] <phunyguy> streulma, no it is a hardware issue
[19:47] <phunyguy> streulma, if it does it in both OSs, then it is not OS related
[19:47] <phunyguy> skinux, hrmm... is it open in nautilus or unmounted?
[19:47] <trism> stevenpage129: yeah that is weird, you should be getting 2
[19:47] <streulma> phunyguy: is there no warranty status that after 3 repairs you get a new notebook ?
[19:47] <skinux> Nautilus shows Windows mounted at /media/<user>/os, and I can see Windows files via Nautilus, just not via shell.
[19:47] <phunyguy> streulma, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[19:48] <phunyguy> oh...
[19:48] <streulma> skinux: you have ASUS? :)
[19:48] <phunyguy> do you have that specified in /etc/fstab?
[19:48] <skinux> I'm not sure....I have a DELL Inspiron
[19:48] <phunyguy> skinux, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab?
[19:49] <skinux> fstab doesn't have any info for Windows mount
[19:49] <phunyguy> hmm
[19:49] <stevenpage129> trism: so my issue is that the postinst script is having issues checking whether a user exists or not? atleast this is somewhere to work from / something to go on
[19:49] <phunyguy> ok so can you get to /media/<user>/os ?
[19:49] <skinux> Yes, but it's empty
[19:49] <sydney> streulma: I agree with phunyguy;if it happens in both os'es the problem is probably in the webcam itself
[19:50] <phunyguy> skinux, did you install ntfs-3g?
[19:50] <skinux> It's empty via shell, I can see the files via Nautilus
[19:50] <trism> stevenpage129: yes it has: if ! getent passwd varnish; then adduser varnish; fi basically
[19:50] <streulma> sydney ok that is clear, but he is JUST repaired !
[19:50] <phunyguy> skinux, I am not entirely sure how that is possible.
[19:50] <skinux> Yeah...my either! Which is why I'm confused
[19:51] <phunyguy> ls -al /media/<usr>/os produces no output?
[19:51] <phunyguy> just . and ..?
[19:51] <OerHeks> skinux, what does "mount" tell you
[19:51]  * sydney shrugs,because he doenst know how what else to say to streulma.
[19:51] <phunyguy> OerHeks, it may not show up there with fuse mounted stuff
[19:51] <wheresmypaaants> Hey guys
[19:51] <skinux> mount says it can't find /media/<user>/os in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[19:52] <planetmaker> streulma, it's not unheard that sometimes hardware shops simply "repair" it by re-packing it ;)
[19:52] <OerHeks> phunyguy, you are correct
[19:52] <phunyguy> skinux, JUST the mount command
[19:52] <phunyguy> no arguments
[19:52] <planetmaker> or just exchanging stuff unrelated to the complaint
[19:52] <sydney> wheresmypaaants: Hi!!(also get some pants on) ;) :P
[19:52] <wheresmypaaants> Having an ubuntu issue. When it turns on now, it stays at boot screen. If i hit altF1 fast enough, it shows two lines. Disabling IRQ, then something dispatcher and an edit command
[19:52] <wheresmypaaants> right now im talking in recovery mode
[19:52] <wheresmypaaants> but i'd love to get to the bottom of this :D
[19:53] <phunyguy> wheresmypaaants, "recovery mode"?
[19:53] <phunyguy> wheresmypaaants, how are you chatting from that?
[19:53] <wheresmypaaants> phunyguy: Boot into recovery mode VIA grub, then i hit resume
[19:53] <wheresmypaaants> it loads in low graphics res, and i can open browsers and what not
[19:53] <phunyguy> wheresmypaaants, oh... do you get any errors at all?  What about dmesg?  These things will help troubleshoot
[19:53] <skinux> Output of mount: http://pastebin.com/pgHwAaZg
[19:53] <SenorSenpai> hi everyone i have a huge problem, my unity stopped loading all I have is a blank desktop with a mouse, and I can right click it and make folders etc. what can I do to fix it? thanks in advance
[19:53] <stevenpage129> trism: sorry, my fault again.
[19:53] <stevenpage129> steven@rapidwebs:~$ getent passwd blah; echo $?;
[19:53] <stevenpage129> 2
[19:54] <stevenpage129> trism: that seems right?
[19:54] <wheresmypaaants> phunyguy: No errors, just those two lines. Any way to fetch the latest BOOT log?
[19:54] <trism> stevenpage129: yeah that's right
[19:54] <phunyguy> skinux, /dev/sda5 on /media/skinux/OS type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)  <---- that is the one we are concerned with
[19:54] <phunyguy> and apparently it does show there!
[19:54] <skinux> Not before I check what that command does....one second
[19:55] <phunyguy> skinux, are you typing OS at the command line, or os?
[19:55] <phunyguy> skinux, that's not a command
[19:55] <skinux> Ohh, okay.
[19:55] <skinux> Put that inside of fstab?
[19:55] <phunyguy> skinux, no, answer my question
[19:55] <skinux> It is 'os' NOT 'OS'
[19:56] <phunyguy> skinux, not according to that paste
[19:56] <phunyguy> try to ls -al /media/skinux/OS
[19:56] <phunyguy> :-/
[19:56] <wheresmypaaants> phunyguy: DMESG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7597000/
[19:56] <skinux> Oh, FFS! It always worked using 'os' before...not it's working using 'OS'
[19:56] <wheresmypaaants> phunyguy: BOOT.LOG: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7597003/
[19:57] <Drewcifer> Google broke. What PAE?
[19:57] <phunyguy> wheresmypaaants, for reference, I have no idea what the issue is, and I have to do some work.  Someone else can look at the logs
[19:57] <nectarys> how to make the virtualbox supports usb PLEASE !!
[19:57] <phunyguy> skinux, good luck to you sir, and enjoy your found data
[19:57] <phunyguy> also please keep your language clean, skinux
[19:57] <phunyguy> :)
[19:57] <e^> nectarys: I'm not sure, but you can make the mounted USB a shared folder and use it in virtualbox.
[19:58] <skinux> I didn't use any profanity.
[19:58] <phunyguy> skinux, acronyms are still curses
[19:58] <nectarys> e^, i've tried that. but it wouldn't work
[19:58] <skinux> Ohh.....you guys are no fun :P
[19:58] <phunyguy> skinux, "ffs"
[19:58] <phunyguy> skinux, just be careful :)
[19:58] <skinux> Sure...take all the fun out of it. lol
[19:58] <e^> nectarys: no way, it should. did you install the guest additions?
[19:58] <phunyguy> gotta run, see you all later
[19:59] <wheresmypaaants> Anyone else wanna help with my boot issue?
[19:59] <Drewcifer> Don't even know what that means
[19:59] <sydney> I dont know what that stands for,nor do i want to know. ;)
[19:59] <Drewcifer> So effectively you made look at a curse word thanks
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> nectarys, You have to add it in the preferences in the start gui
[19:59] <phunyguy> Drewcifer, relax.
[19:59] <nectarys> wilee-nilee, Config > USB > ?
[19:59] <Drewcifer> I am, just showing you hole in your logic
[20:00] <nectarys> e^, what guest additions ?
[20:00] <Drewcifer> for pete sakes could had been replaced there, FYI. now you know
[20:00] <skinux> Now, how can I tell Ubuntu to make sure a few symlinks are present during boot?
[20:00] <e^> nectarys: im trying what wilee-nilee is suggesting now.
[20:00] <phunyguy> Drewcifer, please drop it, and let's stick to support topics.
[20:00] <sydney> SenorSenpai: can you log out?Can you start the terminal?
[20:00] <Drewcifer> Now, I am downloading a .iso what is PAE?
[20:00] <phunyguy> !pae
[20:00] <e^> nectarys: you click on devices > insert guest additions (in the main menu, global menu)
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> nectarys, I forget exactly where, but it would be in the gui that you start the vbox with, I don;t have it installed at the moment.
[20:01] <phunyguy> now I really have to go.
[20:01] <sydney> Lets all say goodbye to phunyguy. :D
[20:01] <sydney> Goodbye :D
[20:01] <stevenpage129> trism: where are you reading the varnish postinst scrpt from
[20:01] <Drewcifer> by phunyguy
[20:01] <Drewcifer> bye
[20:02] <stevenpage129> trism: if i could go thru it and check each command for a permissions error this might help me track down the issue
[20:02] <Drewcifer> And thanks for !
[20:02] <e^> nectarys: when you install it, it appears as a cd-rom in the guest OS, and you just install it.
[20:02] <gregL> I would like to have a script run at startup..  You used to be able to use the app "startup applications"  Would anyone know of an App like that or a way to call a script at startup?
[20:03] <Martijn-NL> Hi everyone - i want to convert wma files to mp3. I found this code on google: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5784661/ffmpeg-convert-entire-directory I edit it to this, but it doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/57xB53eq
[20:03] <trism> stevenpage129: I'm looking at the source package but you can find it at /var/lib/dpkg/info/varnish.postinst
[20:03] <stevenpage129> trism: ty
[20:03] <Martijn-NL> Files cannot be found. Does anyone know how to do this?
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> !details | Martijn-NL for the channel.
[20:04] <sydney> Martijn-NL: Did you try WinFF? Or do you only want to use terminal?
[20:04] <Martijn-NL> sydney: terminal
[20:04] <Martijn-NL> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED *** This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead. 18: No such file or directory
[20:04] <Drewcifer> !sfs
[20:05] <sydney> Martijn-NL: ok,but it works. :D
[20:05] <Martijn-NL> sydney: No, It cannot found the wma files. Don't know why.
[20:06] <SenorSenpai> sydney: i can start it with ctrl + alt + f1
[20:06] <SenorSenpai> what do I do from there
[20:06] <Drewcifer> !devx
[20:06] <SenorSenpai> i think its becuase i installed emerald
[20:06] <Martijn-NL> SenorSenpai: Are you talking to me?
[20:07] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Will ctrl-alt-t work?
[20:07] <SenorSenpai> sydney it does not
[20:07] <Drewcifer> is Slacko Puppy 64 bit the devx/sfs ones? opposed to the pao/no-pao versions?
[20:07] <SenorSenpai> and no Martijn-NL i dont think so, thats why i spoke directly to sydney
[20:08] <sydney> SenorSenpai: ok,ctrl-alt-f1.then it asks for your username and pasword.
[20:08] <SenorSenpai> yes
[20:08] <skinux> Is there still a file to put commands for Ubuntu to perform as desktop environment boots up?
[20:08] <Martijn-NL> sydney: What works, Sydney?
[20:08] <sydney> SenorSenpai: sudo apt-get remove emerald?
[20:08] <e^> skinux: .profile in your home directory, that's what i use anyways
[20:09] <e^> maybe somebody more knowledgeable will pitch in
[20:09] <sydney> Martijn-NL:Have you tried WinFF? What is your problem? Not showi your wwa files?
[20:09] <Canaimero-rossie> hello
[20:10] <sydney> Martijn-NL: I need more info. ;)
[20:10] <SenorSenpai> rebooting to find out if that fixes it
[20:10] <Martijn-NL> sydney: I use commandline. The script cannot find the files. Did you see my script on pastebin? http://pastebin.com/57xB53eq
[20:10] <SenorSenpai> that didnt fix it ;/
[20:11] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Can you log out?
[20:11] <SenorSenpai> yea
[20:12] <SenorSenpai> im thinking to try installing another DE, then pick that
[20:12] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Thats what i was thinking. ;)
[20:12] <sydney> SenorSenpai: What one?
[20:12] <SenorSenpai> flashback
[20:13] <sydney> SenorSenpai: What are your specs?
[20:14] <sydney> Martijn-NL: Sorry,not 100% sure how to help. Dont quite understand.
[20:14] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Gnome,lubuntu,xubuntu,kde?
[20:14] <SenorSenpai> sydney ubuntu 14.04
[20:14] <sydney> SenorSenpai: oh,does it work if you log into the guest session?
[20:15] <SenorSenpai> gonna try that quick
[20:15] <Martijn-NL> sydney: I fixed it using your tip WinFF (only i did want it to with cli). I want to convert from WMA to MP3.
[20:15] <sydney> SenorSenpai: I was listing a few DE's. :D
[20:15] <SenorSenpai> hah it does, unity loaded
[20:15] <sydney> SenorSenpai: weird!!
[20:16] <SenorSenpai> yea i dont get it lol
[20:16] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Would you like ubuntu gnome as your DE?
[20:16] <maddawg3> fascinating... Why is it that my system monitor says I am using 80% of my CPU in the "Processes" tab it only shows 12% of my CPU being used?
[20:16] <Audi0Philic> no?
[20:16] <SenorSenpai> ubuntu gnome as in gnome3?
[20:16] <OerHeks> Martijn-NL, wma is prop., i had issues with playing them, this answer with ppa is a solution > http://askubuntu.com/questions/456072/clementine-wont-play-wma-with-your-gstreamer-installation-is-missing-a-plugi
[20:16] <sydney> SenorSenpai: yes
[20:16] <SenorSenpai> honestly I dont like that
[20:16] <sydney> SenorSenpai: gnome 2?
[20:17] <sydney> SenorSenpai: you like gnome 2?
[20:18] <SenorSenpai> ive used gnome2 a lot in the past, as well as mate desktop
[20:18] <SenorSenpai> so yea gnome2 is what i like
[20:18] <Martijn-NL> OerHeks: Thanks. I experience no problems at this moment. Did you know how to get the CD track titles from the internet?
[20:18] <OerHeks> !info gnome-desktop-environment
[20:19] <sydney> SenorSenpai: do you want to install that?
[20:19] <Martijn-NL> OerHeks: I convert a collection wma files from an already stored cd?
[20:19] <SenorSenpai> gnome flashback aka gnome2, is package gnome-session-flashback right?
[20:19] <SenorSenpai> !info gnome-session-flashback
[20:19] <OerHeks> Martijn-NL not sure clementine can do wma title search
[20:19] <sydney> SenorSenpai: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[20:19] <Symphonym> Guest48378 Are you the same "guest" that I talked to about my Wifi problems the other day?
[20:20] <OerHeks> nor mp3 editor tools
[20:20] <sydney> SenorSenpai: or just sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[20:21] <SenorSenpai> thanks, logged out and into it, working with my account :)
[20:22] <sydney> SenorSenpai: great!!
[20:22] <sydney> SenorSenpai: I have like 8 DE's on my pc. :D
[20:22] <tomyzecat> Hi
[20:22] <SenorSenpai> eheh i tend to stick to one for th majority
[20:23] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Me to,but sometimes variation is good. :D
[20:23] <maddawg3> can someone help me understand the system monitor that comes with ubuntu
[20:23] <ihsw> i tried running apt-get update and i'm getting hash sum mismatch... why is this happening and how do i fix it?
[20:23] <maddawg3> it says i'm using 80% of my cpu but the process tab doesnt show what is using it all
[20:23] <sydney> Now,Windows,beat that!! :D
[20:23] <Squarepy> maddawg, reminds me of the windows task manager
[20:23] <Amketroe> I've stuck w/ xubuntu for the longest time due to laptop specs...
[20:24] <maddawg3> no this only shows i'm using 10%
[20:24] <maddawg3> which isnt true
[20:24] <maddawg3> i think it's only showing tasks running as me
[20:24] <das_> someone can help me to upgrade my ubuntu to 13.10
[20:24] <das_> i'm using 13.04
[20:24] <sydney> maddawg3: what task manager are you running?
[20:25] <CodePulsar> Any reasons why I only see the swap partition in /etc/cryptab ?
[20:25] <CodePulsar> I have 3 encrypted partitions
[20:25] <CodePulsar> ./ , /home , swap
[20:25] <maddawg3> oh figured it out
[20:25] <maddawg3> lolz
[20:26] <Canaimero-rossie> halquien  abla español
[20:26] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Bye!! Have fun with gnome fallback. :D
[20:26] <ZupZ0rx> o-o
[20:27] <Canaimero-rossie> chao
[20:27] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: Are you sure that you have 3 LUKS volumes, rather than one LUKS colume containing 3 LVM logical volumes?
[20:27] <ixio> !ot
[20:29] <das_> http://postimg.org/image/fgihx6lwn/1f9df543/ why this error when i try to update ?
[20:30] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: I've selected "Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation for security" at installation time
[20:30] <OerHeks> das_, does that repeat after 'try again'?
[20:30] <das_> don't change nothing OerHeks
[20:30] <das_> yes
[20:30] <OerHeks> das_, open terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:30] <das_> it repeat
[20:31] <makki> hi! i have installed ubuntu 14.4 on an old hp pavilion and now the wifi is not working! when i run " lspci | grep Ether" i get "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)"   help plzzzz
[20:31] <OerHeks> you have a networkconnection, for irc, but does your browser have a connection?
[20:31] <das_> http://pastebin.com/qvPanEQV
[20:32] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: hmm, sudo cryptsetup status /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 says /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is inactive.
[20:32] <OerHeks> das_,  try changing mirror in softwarecenter> sources
[20:33] <das_> how can i do that ?
[20:33] <makki> hi! i have installed ubuntu 14.4 on an old hp pavilion and now the wifi is not working! when i run " lspci | grep Ether" i get "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)"   help plzzzz
[20:33] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab and /proc/mounts.
[20:34] <OerHeks> das_, softwarecenter > top panel edit > sources
[20:35] <keychainred> whats the easiest way to make a python script i can load on a web page that allows me to input data to be used in printing out simple statements that i can copy paste
[20:36] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: http://paste.kde.org/phfcohjpk/0fmtmb
[20:38] <CodePulsar> I see that UUIDs change frequently
[20:38] <Symphonym> I'm suspecting Wifi driver problems since after ugprading to 14.04 I get very consistent lag spikes, only occurs with Wifi, not wired. My laptop is using the "AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter", any package/driver I can download that might solve the issue?
[20:38] <CodePulsar> what is in /etc/cryptab is different than any UUID spitted by blkid
[20:38] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: No. UUIDs never change unless you create a new filesystem.
[20:39] <CodePulsar> they've changed several times
[20:39] <Kuperstein> Oh jeez. is everyone having fstab issues?
[20:39] <CodePulsar> Kuperstein: yes
[20:39] <makki> hi! i have installed ubuntu 14.4 on an old hp pavilion and now the wifi is not working! when i run " lspci | grep Ether" i get "03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)"   help plzzzz
[20:39] <Kuperstein> I'm frustrated with configuring fstab in Xubuntu 14.04
[20:39] <Kuperstein> I just came from #xubuntu and nobody answered... why was gnome-disks removed from xubuntu 14.04?
[20:39] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: You have an unencrypted root filesystem, and your home directory (/home/username/, not /home/) is encrypted using ecryptfs.
[20:40] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: so only home got encrypted?
[20:40] <Kuperstein> or.. why was gparted not included? do they just expect us to do fstab the old fashion way?
[20:40] <CodePulsar> Jordan_U: /home/username that is
[20:40] <Jordan_U> CodePulsar: Correct.
[20:41] <amflir> how to find and copy all images?
[20:41] <Kuperstein> Anyone mind chatting w/ me about fstab configs?
[20:42] <neldogz> what does the Ubuntu Software updater update that the Sudo apt-get upgrade command does not?
[20:42] <Kuperstein> @amflir you can do a search using find ~ \*.ext and replacing ext with the filetype extension
[20:43] <Kuperstein> @neldogz I believe it is the same. using apt-get upgrade and updating through the ubuntu software center should essentially do the same thing given your subscribed PPAs
[20:44] <amflir> Kuperstein, there are a lot of image types, any simple way to find file type, by reading header, etc?
[20:44] <neldogz> Kuperstein, I performed a test today. I fully updated using the upgrade command.. but afterwards the Ubuntu Software updater still had updates to apply
[20:44] <elementary-site4> does anyone have experience with BOOTICE?
[20:45] <Kuperstein> @amflir I'm not sure, you can take a look at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/foremost.1.html
[20:46] <Kuperstein> @neldogs you may need to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to apply those changes.
[20:46] <neldogz> thanks Kuperstein
[20:46] <Jordan_U> amflir: file /path/to/file
[20:48] <ysh> i wrote a shell script and the script have multiple runs multiple php script with arguments, but when i run this script from cron it doesnt run as aspected
[20:48] <ysh> on further findings i found that php script didnt get the arguments
[20:48] <Jordan_U> ysh: Please don't cross post questions. Wait for a bit to see if you get an answer in the first channel before asking in another.
[20:49] <Kuperstein> @amflir if you want to copy all images to a certain directory, you can write up a short bash script that does "sudo cp ~\*.ext (target destination here) for each extension type.
[20:49] <unopaste> Kuperstein: Error: No closing quotation
[20:49] <Kuperstein> @amflir if you want to copy all images to a certain directory, you can write up a short bash script that does "sudo cp ~\*.ext (target destination here) for each extension type. "
[20:49] <HM06> each time my conky updates, it draws the new clock on top of the old one. http://zagortenay333.deviantart.com/art/Conky-Vision-395777503 vs http://imgur.com/nqbwrT1
[20:50] <Kuperstein> @HM06 does your clock save its state on shutdown? In that case, you may not need to have it auto-run on bootup.  I work for the gov and it's how we chat on AdobeDCO
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Kuperstein: type a few letters of the name and hit TAB. Habit broken
[20:52] <HM06> Kuperstein: The conky isn't in that list. I also have this issue when I start it manually from cmmand line
[20:54] <Kuperstein> HM06: How many items are in your startup-applications?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> HM06: is your system time drifting?
[20:55] <das_> OerHerks thank u a lot, seems that the command that u suggest me work :D
[20:55] <HM06> ActionParsnip: the system timeon the comp matches the time on my phone, at least.
[20:56] <HM06> Kuperstein: one. Indicator application
[20:56] <HM06> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application/indicator-application-service
[20:57] <Martijn-NL> Who did ever run Ubuntu on a Raspberry Pi?
[20:57] <Kuperstein> Martijn-NL: I have, back in the day when ubuntu still had a netbook edition
[20:58] <Martijn-NL> Kuperstein: Does it perform good with the pi?
[20:58] <shreezbot> I'm having an issue with my mouse acting very strange and dissapearing on 14.04...
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Martijn-NL: i'd run Ubuntu + OpenBox personally
[20:58] <shreezbot> And when I click tabs in Chrome for instance, it sometimes just closes them...
[20:58] <Martijn-NL> ActionParsnip: At the Raspberry Pi?
[20:59] <Kuperstein> Martijn-NL It's okay. There are definitely better debian based distros than ubuntu for the Pi
[20:59] <Martijn-NL> Kuperstein: I know, but I like Ubuntu the most.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Martijn-NL: sure. Comes in at 300Mb running here....
[20:59] <ryan_46> If I have a Windows 8.1 machine and I install Ubuntu to the whole HD, will Ubuntu sucessfully install and boot up the Ubuntu grub?
[20:59] <shreezbot> I can hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to swap to the terminal and then CTRL+ALT+F7 to swap back, and it fixes it for a few minutes, but it breaks again very soon thereafter...
[20:59] <Jordan_U> ryan_46: Yes.
[21:00] <yakiza> hello everybody i have
[21:00] <yakiza>  a problem with the teamspeak
[21:00] <ryan_46> Thanks Jordan_U
[21:00] <yakiza> cant  start the server
[21:00] <Kuperstein> Martijn-NL It surely worked for me, try your louck with the Pi :)
[21:00] <Jordan_U> ryan_46: You're welcome.
[21:00] <yakiza> i have a problem i saw a lot of tutorials on youtube and google but i cant run my server
[21:00] <yakiza> anyone here know?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> yakiza: you need to hit enter less dude
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !teamspeak
[21:01] <Kuperstein> Okay... Anyone know what is the current disk utility for Xubuntu 14.04? Or which one is included in Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:01] <amflir> I'm trying to find and copy all images but I get this error, can you help me solve it? http://paste.debian.net/103638/
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Kuperstein: gparted
[21:02] <Martijn-NL> Kuperstein: How many pi's do you have?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> amflir: id ask in #bash
[21:10] <Tom322>  I'm trying to install XUbuntu 14.04 on a DL360 G4, it's older hardware, I had it get to the "Install" page once but have not been able to get back to it since, it gets stuck on a black page with a keyboard=and a person in a circle page...
[21:10] <xeno_> I cannot get an upside down Spanish starting exclamation quote from my keyboard.
[21:10] <xeno_> Any suggestions?
[21:13] <Tom322>  I'm trying to install XUbuntu 14.04 on a DL360 G4, it's older hardware, I had it get to the "Install" page once but have not been able to get back to it since, it gets stuck on a black page with a keyboard=and a person in a circle page...
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Xeno_: have you asked in #ubuntu-es ?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[21:14] <Tom322> it works on other hardware
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: what GPU do you use?
[21:17] <Tom322> its built into the mb
[21:17] <xeno_> Ok.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: yes, but what is it
[21:18] <Tom322> let me get the name 1 sec
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: it can range from a SiS 755 to an Nvidia 250 and anything between and beyond.....
[21:18] <canaima__> hola coño
[21:20] <Tom322> how do i address my answer back to your name
[21:20] <canaima__> hello
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: type a few letters from names and hit TAB
[21:22] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: i c thx
[21:22] <canaima__> sileds
[21:22] <canaima__> bola de mierda
[21:22] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: i will get the name off the diagnostic page, 1 sec
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: we just need the GPU
[21:24] <muru> Can someone tell me what is the difference between security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com? I read somewhere that the first is just an alias for the second.
[21:25] <ikonia> muru: they are different repos
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> Muru: ping both and you'll see if it is the same, won't you?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Too obvious?
[21:26] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: it is a ATI Rage XL Video Controller
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: try the boot option: radeon.nomodeset=1
[21:27] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: where do i type that
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption
[21:29] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: i dont get to the boot option screen...
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: it will show on ANY hardware. You do get it
[21:32] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: it goes to bootlogo then the screen is black and i see 2 icons on the bottom, in the middle, one looks like a keyboard then an "=" and then a person in a circle
[21:32] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: it sits there
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Tom322: Press any key within the first 5 seconds of seeing that screen to get to the syslinux menu.
[21:33] <dey> does anyone here use a intel hd gpu with 2+ monitors?
[21:34] <Jordan_U> dey: If they did, what question would you ask them next?
[21:34] <dey> Jordan_U: is bezel compensation possible
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: guess what that icon means....?
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: keyboard equals man
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Tom322: pressing something on the keyboard brings up the menu to allow human interaction.
[21:37] <Tom322> Jordan_U: ActionParsnip I hit the spacebar and got the menu back...I selected Install Xubuntu...
[21:37] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: Jordan_U it seems to be stuck
[21:37] <Jordan_U> dey: Do you want bezel compensation for a specific application (like a fullscreen game), or for everything?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Tom322: Did you press a key within 5 seconds, or only after 5 seconds?
[21:39] <Tom322> Jordan_U: before 5 secs
[21:39] <dey> Jordan_U: right now im using a gtx660. im using 2 displays with i3. between the bezels is a virtual gap representing the real gap. The displays act as seperate displays, but if i put any application across all of them, the stuff that would be where the bezels are is simply not visible
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Tom322: Ahh, I see, you are at the menu now. You need to actually add the "radeon.nomodeset=1" kernel parameter that ActionParsnip was talking about before booting.
[21:40] <dey> Jordan_U: i want to know if the same is possible with the intel hd
[21:41] <dey> Jordan_U: to give you an idea how its done via nvidia. you simply draw the two displays away from each other to create a gap as big as you need it to be between them http://www.ismprofessional.net/pascucci/wp-content/uploads/nvidia-settings.png
[21:41] <Tom322> Jordan_U: I'm at the select the language screen
[21:42] <Tom322> Jordan_U: how do i add this radeon.nomodeset=1" kernel parameter?
[21:43] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: I'm at the language screen
[21:45] <Jordan_U> !nomodeset | Tom322
[21:47] <Guido1> I have a hardware question IF i look at the processorspeed at http://ark.intel.com/products/76753/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2810-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz does it mean that each core has 2 GHz or both together? I heard somethink like that you have to multiply the GHz by the amount of cores.
[21:48] <dey> Guido1: cpus do not HAVE frequencies. They work WITH a given frequency. And yes, all cores work WITH that frequency
[21:49] <dey> or AT.... not sure which one is appropriate　:P
[21:49] <TheEmpath> hai... how do i get my bind9 dns server to stop reaching out to the internet to update itself?
[21:50] <Tom322> ubottu: where do i type it in?
[21:50] <TheEmpath> id just like for it to be a local domain name resolver :D
[21:50] <Mido_KSA> Guido1: yes you have to multiply the GHz by the amount of cores
[21:50] <Guido1> dey: but is the assumption right that a dual core 2 GHz is faster than a mono or is the diference only the stability ore something else?
[21:50] <Guido1> Mido_KSA: thanks
[21:51] <muru> ikonia: So If I were running an apt-cacher, I would have to add both, right?
[21:51] <muru> ActionParsnip: I know they resolve to different places, I figured one could be a mirror of the other.
[21:52] <dey> Guido1: well you COULD say that two cores @2ghz are combined twice as powerful as a cpu using just one of those cores. THis isnt correct in reality, due to cores sharing resources, programs being unable to multithread perfectly etc...
[21:52] <Tom322> ActionParsnip: I'm at the main install screen where do i type in the radeon.nomodeset=1" kernel parameter
[21:54] <Guido1> dey: okee, but it sounds that a dual core 2 GHz is still much better than a single 1,7 GHz and it's already worth considering buying
[21:55] <Jordan_U> dey: It looks like xrandr allows you to create an arbitrarily large "screen" (the total size in pixels of the virtual single display that each output only displays part of), and also allows you to set an arbitrary position for outputs within this screen. Together, those to abilities should allow you to accomplish bezel compensation.
[21:55] <dey> Guido1: ofc. a multicore cpu is better than a single core. Its like having multiple single core cpus!
[21:55] <Jordan_U> dey: Do all your outputs have the same DPI?
[21:55] <dey> Jordan_U: yes, they are all the same
[21:56] <Mido_KSA> dey: is there any program like hotspot shield for ubuntu?
[21:56] <joem86> I'm considering installing Ubuntu on my workstation for the unix tooling. I haven't used it in a while. Is it considered more or less pretty stable (comparable to OS/X) for daily work use?
[21:56] <TuxRescue> guys, what is the difference between the nvidia legacy and binary driver?
[21:56] <dey> Jordan_U: i wonder if nvidia-settings just works as a xrandr gui :/
[21:57] <Guido1> dey: thanks. My laptop is getting a bit slow and now I'm looking for newer one which should be faster and more stable. Are there other things to consider by buying a laptop vor (x)ubuntu? (By my laptop I can't use an external VGA screen with linux)
[21:57] <dey> Guido1: well, i dont think you will even find a solo core notebook anymore. Even the most basic netbooks have multicore cpus iirc.
[21:58] <dey> Mido_KSA: was your message really meant for me?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> dey: I don't have a second monitor to test with at the moment, so I don't know if the standard GUI display settings in gnome-control-center allow you to configure this, but if you were to use the xrandr command you'd be looking at the options --fb widthxheight and --pos xxy .
[21:58] <tgunr> I have a messs on my hands, We had a Ubuntu server running 12.04 who was reporting an initramfs error executing ap-get. One the people said see had corrected the issues and we were putting in a new server in order to back uo it up. Before that could happen one of the techs at the colo hit the power siwtch accidentlly and the box dropped into a initramsfs prompt. I had them install slaxx on a USB stick and can boot from that. I cloned
[21:58] <tgunr>  the main drive and ten put the second drive back in. (There was no data on the second drive) but it was part of a volume group. No matter what I try I get an error about one of the pv volumes missing with ` Couldn't find device with uuid bcG7QT-ShDH-l2qA-pbpw-xAgg-HB9o-VnQbYp.' showing on pvscan and other commands.
[21:58] <dey> Jordan_U: np. if its possible with xrandr im going to figure it out :)
[21:59] <Guido1> dey: the one i use right now is single ... I also mean if there are cores or other hardware which is known to cause trouble with linux. maybe  page where i can check if the components will work
[21:59] <Mido_KSA> dey: yes . i want to know if there is a program for ubuntu like hotspot shield
[22:00] <ritm> can someone help i have mono sound on ubuntu studio
[22:00] <tgunr> I have scoured the net looking for a solution and nothing tried seems to bring back the PV volume, At this point I am running out of ideas and turning to the channel
[22:00] <dey> Guido1: cpus wont cause a problem. CHeck which components the mainboard uses. And if they are compatible with linux. (soundcard, network, etc.)
[22:00] <Tom322> I'm trying to selected any option from the install menu on XUbuntus main install screen, it keeps freezing...
[22:00] <tgm4883> Looking at the trim support in 14.04, since it says that it's only enabled for intel and samsung does that mean that I can manually enable it for my non-intel/samsung SSD if I check the manufacture says that trim is supported, or does it mean that it's only enabled on those because other venors have buggy trim support (even though they say the SSD supports
[22:00] <tgm4883> it)
[22:00] <dey> Mido_KSA: i wouldnt know, i dont even know hotspotshield
[22:01] <ritm> i have mono sound want stereo
[22:01] <Mido_KSA> dey: oh ok. thanks
[22:01] <Symphonym> Consistent lag spikes after 14.04 upgrade  (occurs every ~2 mins and lasts ~10 sec)  which I believe to be because of Wifi driver issues. I'm using "Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter", any package/driver I can download to hopefully fix the issue? The problem did not exist in 13.10.
[22:01] <Guido1> dey: okee. is there a side where i can se which components of the motherbord are (not)compatieble or do i have to search each part with google?
[22:02] <ritm> i had stereo before
[22:02] <ritm> turned of stereo
[22:02] <ritm> automaticly
[22:03] <ritm> can someone help with mono problem
[22:03] <Mido_KSA> any one knows a vpn program for secure surf ?
[22:03] <bitcoinassassin> Hello. I have an encrypted home drive; nightmare! So, if I just copy (or back up using tar, etc.) the files from my home folder to an external drive, they will be copied without being encrypted, correct?
[22:04] <ritm> i have mono sound want stereo
[22:04] <dey> Guido1: i usually use google. But most mainboards use the same stuff anyways. Intel network, ALC soundcards etc. are usually never a problem. Usually only the expensive 'gamer'stuff causes problems. Special soundcard chips, those KILLER NICs dont work flawlessly either iirc. etc. Stick to the cheaper mainboards and you usually dont have a problem. But i never bought a notebook, i dont know how easy it is to find out which chipsets they used
[22:04] <bitcoinassassin> This is from my computer with the encrypted file mounted during a normal boot.......
[22:04] <Jordan_U> bitcoinassassin: Correct.
[22:04] <bitcoinassassin> Hey Jordan_U
[22:04] <bitcoinassassin> Thanks.
[22:05] <ritm> god damm can someone help me
[22:05] <ritm> dont have stereo sound
[22:05] <dey> Guido1: but im pretty sure that if you check the common notebooks that someone already wrote a bit about the linux compatibility somewhere
[22:05] <ritm> only mono
[22:06] <Guido1> i only know from my laptop that the VGA is not working with linux. The graficcard is something from NVIDA
[22:06] <meek_geek> my update manager says cannot trust sources
[22:06] <ritm> just idiots here gonna search google
[22:06] <bitcoinassassin> meed_geek, my journalism friends say cannot trust sources.....
[22:07] <bitcoinassassin> er, meek
[22:07] <dey> Guido1: did you install the official nvidia drivers? Maybe your card is to old, but nvidia cards usually work well :/
[22:07] <meek_geek> bitcoinassassin, it said so really and would not update anymore
[22:07] <kingbeowolf> how can i find out how many blobs are on my system?
[22:07] <Mido_KSA> Guido1: i have HP Pavilion g6 laptop and it is compatible with linux. i think you have to try searching about HP laptops.
[22:08] <bitcoinassassin> kingbeowolf: what's a blob
[22:08] <abc> :)
[22:08] <kingbeowolf> bitcoinassassin, binary blob is usually a bit of code that makes some hardware work
[22:09] <Guido1> dey: i think so. it's an extra driver
[22:09] <sudormrf> hey guys, I am trying to understand repos a bit better.  I am working on testing something with a group of people.  one person synced a file to a repo, but the repo is not pingable or browseable so I think it won't work at all until he does something on his end...correct?
[22:09] <bitcoinassassin> kingbeowolf: ahh.... thanks.
[22:09] <kingbeowolf> i.e. not open source
[22:09] <bitcoinassassin> oh............ like that
[22:09] <sudormrf> stupid question but I am second guessing myself here.
[22:10] <abc> XD
[22:10] <bitcoinassassin> there are not stupid questions; only stupid people (not you sudormrf); I'm just saying . . .
[22:10] <Guido1> Mido_KSA: In the moment I'm looking at HP and Lenovo and try to find somthing with a QWERTY keyboard below 500, maximal 700€ (I'm a student)
[22:10] <planetmaker> sudormrf, using a repository doesn't mean that the repository is public.
[22:10] <sudormrf> bitcoinassassin, lel
[22:10] <cristobal> guys i connect a hardrive of a laptop to get some information since the laptop died that had windows now i cant umount /media/Drivename    any  suggestions?
[22:10] <sudormrf> planetmaker, hmm.  ok, well I can't ping it, nslookup fails for it...not sure how I can access it in that case
[22:10] <planetmaker> I'd be frightened if every repo on my local machine would be public ;)
[22:11] <kingbeowolf> anyone know how to figure out how many binary blobs are in their kernel?]
[22:11] <sudormrf> planetmaker, any idea how I can sort of force a connection?
[22:11] <TJ-> kingbeowolf: "grep firmware /var/log/dmesg | wc -l"
[22:12] <planetmaker> sudormrf, no. Especially as 'repo' is as general as 'collection of files with version information attached'
[22:12] <sudormrf> planetmaker, that's what I thought
[22:12] <Mido_KSA> Guido1: the one i mentioned is about 600 USD . it is core i7 third generation and 8 GB Ram with AMD radeon 7500 VGA + intel HD VGA ( give it a try and you will like it)
[22:12] <planetmaker> thus it highly depends on what vcs you actually use.
[22:12] <kingbeowolf> TJ-, printed 0
[22:13] <Guido1> Mido_KSA: okee, I will have a look at it thanks
[22:13] <aural> I am having troubles using a mobile scanner Brother DSmobile 620 in a linux environment: http://privatepaste.com/cc1fac2920
[22:13] <lix> dammit. what other alternative to OpenSSL!??
[22:13] <abc> switched from windows to ubuntu and i was like wth .
[22:13] <sudormrf> planetmaker, not sure what he is using on his end
[22:13] <kingbeowolf> TJ-, dmesg doesn't exist in that folder i guess
[22:13] <sudormrf> lix, libressl? but it isn't available yet
[22:14] <lix> sudormf: tnx. - nerver heard.
[22:14] <Tom322> Jordan_U: I typed in radeon.nomodeset=1 at the end of the boot options line....
[22:14] <planetmaker> sudormrf, and without the right client you cannot access it anyway. Unless he configured properly and started a web interface for it
[22:14] <cristobal> Anyone knows how to force umount a device under /media  ?
[22:14] <Tom322> Jordan_U: it freezes...
[22:14] <sudormrf> planetmaker, this is supposed to be an ubuntu repo setup for grabbing files to test their system.  I just figured if I can't ping it and can't get an nslookup it wouldn't work until something was fixed on his end.
[22:15] <sudormrf> he said dns wasn't setup for it yet