[14:30] <BluesKaj> they have a lott guys over there with "attitude" ..just there to show off their linux chops and deliberately taunt noobs...dunno why they don't get banned . I recall getting told "read the f...ing man pages" , folloowed by insults
[14:31] <Jucato> BluesKaj: then you call the attention of ops :)
[14:31] <Alkis> BluesKaj: what are you talking about? This is standard help in linux :-)
[14:31] <Jucato> ops don't monitor channels 24/7 :)
[14:31] <jpatrick> Antkin: of course we'll know, it's recorded in the bantracker
[14:31] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: aww, and I'm one of them ;)
[14:32] <BluesKaj> naw , that was 2 yrs ago after I installed dapper, Jucato .
[14:32] <Jucato> lol
[14:32] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[14:32] <jpatrick> j/k
[14:33] <Alkis> is kdevelop's 'kate plugin' template broken? Anyone? :-)
[14:33] <BluesKaj> was almost a total new to linux except for a couple of trys with suse and fedora
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj» if that didn't tun you off, you were pretty determined :)
[14:35] <Alkis> lol
[14:36] <BluesKaj> well nosrednaekim , I'm old and used to young jerks , so it was just par for the course as far as I was concerned ...din't like gnome much anyway , kde saved my linux life so to speak :)
[14:37] <Alkis> BluesKaj: old like? 20? :-)
[14:37] <Jucato> right... *and* we're slowly digressing :)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> altho a lot od ppl like gnoem and it's ease of use
[14:37] <BluesKaj> err gnome
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> oh.. that was #ubuntu?
[14:37] <azzco> od? =p
[14:37] <Jucato> Alkis: you'll probably have to wait for someone who has kdevelop installed in gutsy (or try asking for someone in #kdevelop using Kubuntu)
[14:37] <BluesKaj> od=of
[14:37] <Alkis> Jucato: I am trying there too
[14:38] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: of course it was #ubuntu. we're friendlier here
[14:38] <Dioniso> my installation aborted at 82 % with search mirror this is a bug ?
[14:38] <Jucato> but now we're going offtopic :)
[14:38] <Jucato> Dioniso: is the computer connected to the internet?
[14:38]  * emilsedgh is happy to see Jucato here again
[14:38] <BluesKaj> yes nosrednaekim #ubuntu, didn't mean to mislead
[14:39] <Jucato> hi emilsedgh!
[14:39] <Dioniso> Jucato: no
[14:39] <emilsedgh> Jucato: you werent hanging in #kubuntu for a while, how are you?
[14:39] <nosrednaekim> Dioniso» unplug your network cable.
[14:39] <nosrednaekim> and try again
[14:39] <Dioniso> ok
[14:39] <Dioniso> thx guys
[14:39] <Jucato> Dioniso: how long has it been stuck at 82%? it's probably searching for mirrors, but can't find one since it's not connected
[14:40] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yeah. I sort of took a break from any user support channel for a while
[14:40] <emilsedgh> Jucato: how is life/new school/c++ stuff going?
[14:41] <Jucato> still waiting for confirmation. otherwise everything's ok
[14:41] <Jucato> wb jpatrick
[14:41] <jpatrick> Jucato: thanks
[14:41] <Jucato> confirmation won't arrive until april or may. so in the meantime, learning Qt :P
[14:41]  * emilsedgh was going to ask Jucato that he is learning Qt or no ;)
[14:41] <jpatrick> Jucato: confirmation for?
[14:42] <Jucato> jpatrick: if I got accepted in college :)
[14:42] <NickPresta-lapto> Jucato: just make sure you keep writing blog posts while you're in school :)
[14:42] <Jucato> NickPresta-lapto: sure. but you're missing a 'p' :P
[14:42] <Jucato> emilsedgh: I already read half my Qt book, but decided to backtrack and make notes. so today I started chapter 1 again heheh
[14:42] <jpatrick> NickPresta-lapto: there you are
[14:43] <NickPresta-lapto> Jucato: yes, I know. This silly web interface lacks certain features, like long(er) nicks and changing nicks without disconnecting/reconnecting. heh
[14:43] <Jucato> anyway, I'm going offtopic myself
[14:43] <jpatrick> !ot > Jucato
[14:43] <Jucato> jpatrick: too late, I'm already there :P
[14:43] <Jucato> but you just wanted to do that didn't you? :P
[14:43] <emilsedgh> Jucato: good, so i hope to see your new plans on kde soon, probably you'll be a plasma/amarok/... developer soon ;) (if you ask me, go on kopete's irc support!)
[14:44] <Jucato> Plasma definitely. Amarok not so much :P
[14:45] <emilsedgh> amarok has enough devs ;)
 :P
[14:47] <Jucato> heh
[14:47] <jpatrick> emilsedgh: I too want to be a kde dev..
[14:48]  * emilsedgh too
[14:48] <emilsedgh> but i already have too many php stuff to do, i tried cpp and qt once, but lack of time...
[14:49] <sivaji>  i am trying to compile linux kernel i got this error http://pastebin.com/f553c09a6
[14:50] <BluesKaj> My ISP sucks this morning ...had a sec lag for the last 30mins ...must be the freezing rain.
[14:52] <Alkis> sivaji: try sudo apt-get install libcdk5-dev
[14:53] <NickPresta-lapto> gah. Sorry guys. This stupid interface...
[14:57]  * genii sips a coffee and makes sure he's not still a ghost
[14:58]  * ccvp - hello fellow internet addicts - are we all looking forward to another long & glorious week of irc/internet addiction? :)
[14:59] <Jucato> genii: can you pass me a cup?
[15:00] <ccvp> is there a way to have /whois info be shown in current window / tab its typed in, instead of server status tab? i nxchat
[15:02] <Jucato> that was quick :)
[15:02] <LjL> Jucato: known troll, spammed the same thing in other channels.
[15:02] <Jucato> oh :)
[15:03] <BluesKaj> heh, i was going to answer his question
[15:03] <BluesKaj> <-- was an old xchat user
[15:03]  * Jucato doesn't use xchat so can't answer :)
[15:04] <BluesKaj> no more tho
[15:04]  * nosrednaekim though nxchat was an actual client... should be more suspicious of internet mis-spellings :)
[15:04] <BluesKaj> I see the so called free version is no longer free
[15:05] <BluesKaj> xchat2
[15:05] <BluesKaj> on windows
[15:16] <ijai> hi
[15:16] <ijai> im new to kubuntu just got my cd today
[15:16] <jpatrick> !hi | ijai
[15:16] <ubotu> ijai: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:16] <ijai> tryin using the cd live cd
[15:17] <ijai> thanks guys!
[15:17] <ijai> i never know that its thats easy 2 use kubuntu
[15:18] <ijai> just plug in my broadband and voila it detected straight up
[15:19] <Jucato> one of the lucky ones :)
[15:20] <ijai> i ve been doing some reading in the net about kubuntu ...
[15:20] <ijai> up 2 this point ... i like it very much
[15:20] <asennus> hallo?
[15:21] <ijai> hi
[15:21] <asennus> i found this program yesterday :D
[15:21] <Stilo> !de
[15:21] <ijai> like it so far??
[15:21] <Stilo> \jad
[15:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:23] <ijai> any1 from malaysia?
[15:25] <jhutchins_wk> asennus: Which program would that be?
[15:39] <LoLLo> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs8sYe4uqM
[15:39] <Stilo> One Question: whats the name of the alt+f2-"tool"..
[15:40] <Stilo> i want to kill it^^
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Run Command
[15:40] <BluesKaj> it's in the kmenu
[15:41] <BluesKaj> why kill it , it's just used to open files or launch apps
[15:41] <Stilo> yes but it does not react
[15:41] <Stilo> i want to restart it.. i need the name..
[15:41] <jhutchins_wk> It's part of the desktop/kicker/menu system, not a seperate app.
[15:42] <Stilo> hm what can i do.. kill kicker?
[15:42] <jhutchins_wk> dcop kicker kicker restart
[15:42] <BluesKaj> doesn't react in what manner...you must have used it to open a file or an app ...close the file or the app
[15:42] <jhutchins_wk> I think.
[15:42] <Jucato> pressing Esc doesn't close it?
[15:43] <Stilo> no.. i opend it to start knetworkmanager.. the window appears.. but i can not type in the command.. And i cant close the window
[15:43] <BluesKaj> crashed
[15:45] <Stilo> i have killed kicker.. but the window is still there
[15:46] <Jucato> press Ctrl+Alt+Esc and your mouse will turn to a skull. click on the window. but be very careful what you click on
[15:46] <Jucato> press Esc to return the mouse to normal w/o clicking on anything
[15:48] <Stilo> Jucato: when i press ctrl+alt+esc nothing happens
[15:49] <omid> join ubuntu-ir
[15:49] <omid> #join ubuntu-ir
[15:49] <Jucato> Stilo: you can move windows around normally?
[15:49] <omid> any one can help me how I can switch to another room ?
[15:49] <Stilo> yes
[15:49] <Jucato> omid: type /join #ubuntu-ir
[15:49] <Jucato> Stilo: hm... are you using Compiz?
[15:50] <omid> thanks
[15:50] <Stilo> yes
[15:50] <Jucato> aha.. that might be the cause
[15:50] <Stilo> restart compiz?
[15:51] <Jucato> most probably
[15:51] <Stilo> how can i do that savely? "compiz restart"
[15:52] <Stilo> ^^ maybe a reboot would have been the best solution
[15:52] <Jucato> er no
[15:52] <Jucato> but ask in #compiz-fusion how to do that
[15:52] <Stilo> hm i restarted compiz.. but the window is still there..
[15:54] <Stilo> i will restart the session.. thanks for the help
[15:55] <Naga> a
[15:55] <Naga> how to connect internet in ubuntu?
[15:55] <Naga> any idea?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Naga, what do you mean ...you are connected
[15:59] <BluesKaj> oops
[15:59] <Antkin> Hello
[15:59] <Naga> ss
[16:00] <Naga> how to connect internet dial up in ubuntu?
[16:00] <Naga> how to connect internet dial up in ubuntu?
[16:00] <Naga> how to connect internet dial up in ubuntu?
[16:00] <Naga> how to connect internet dial up in ubuntu?
[16:00] <Naga> how to connect internet dial up in ubuntu?
[16:00] <Naga> how to connect internet dial up in ubuntu?
[16:00] <Naga> how to connect internet dial up in ubuntu?
[16:00]  * Jucato sighs...
[16:01] <Daisuke_Ido> wow
[16:01] <Daisuke_Ido> that's just...  wow.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> yeah, he should heed his own advice :)
[16:03] <BluesKaj> prolly had such a lag that he din't see his text come up in the chat
[16:03] <selckin> thats client side
[16:03] <BluesKaj> bombay isn't known for it;s reliable phone service let alone internet
[16:04]  * genii makes a note not to invest in Bombay Telecom
[16:04] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, he was here once and impatient, no reason to think it wasn't impatience making him flood :)
[16:04] <BluesKaj> frustration
[16:05] <BluesKaj> well, gotta go move some slush ...bbiab
[16:06] <tzanger> good morning... can some kind soul please point me in the direction of the standard 'info' pages for development?  I have the man pages but some of them say to refer to the info pages
[16:09] <Vermux> !hhs
[16:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hhs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:10] <Vermux> !ssh
[16:10] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[16:17] <Vermux> which gui interface comes with kubuntu that allow connections to remote computers?
[16:18] <Daviey> Vermux: Krfb
[16:18] <mathieu_> bless you
[16:19] <Vermux> which one is better, putty or krfb?
[16:19] <Daviey> Vermux: putty is a ssh client
[16:20] <Vermux> its not like krfb?
[16:21] <Daviey> Vermux: You want to share your kubuntu desktop?  So other machines can see it?
[16:22] <Vermux> no, I want to connect to a remote computer
[16:22] <Daviey> and the remote computer is allow what connections?
[16:24] <Vermux> yes, I guess
[16:24] <Vermux> yes
[16:25] <Vermux> Daviey: ^
[16:25] <Daviey> Vermux: erm, you didn't answer my question.
[16:26] <Daviey> You want to access a remote computer, right?
[16:26] <Vermux> Daviey: I installed openssh -server. what is the next step? installing putty?
[16:26] <Vermux> Daviey: remote computer allows connection
[16:26] <Daviey> Vermux: you are sat at a kubuntu pc, trying to access another linux machine for console access?
[16:27] <Vermux> Daviey: yes
[16:27] <Daviey> Vermux: easy then, now openssh-server is installed on the remote pc.. just open a terminal (Konsole) and type "ssh user@remotemachineip"
[16:27] <Daviey> ^ on the local one
[16:28] <Daviey> where user = the username you want to connect to
[16:28] <Vermux> Daviey: ok
[16:36] <aaroncampbell> If someone screws up their video card settings so they just see lines, what do they need to do (from the command line) to get it working again?
[16:38] <comp8__> ubuntu timer pls help
[16:39] <Lynoure> comp8__: hmm, could you rephrase that?
[16:39] <genii> aaroncampbell: The safest thing is to replace the driver name in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to vesa from fglrx or nvidia or so on. The more dangerous thing is to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:40] <comp8__> i want to install a timer which can be operational in all computers
[16:40] <Manyfold> can someone help me with kde4?
[16:41] <Lynoure> Manyfold: Lots of people on #kubuntu-kde4
[16:41] <Manyfold> thanks
[16:44] <mrunagi> when a software package says 'mac osx' and 'universal'.....does the universal mean it will run on linux?
[16:44] <LjL> mrunagi: it probably just means it runs on both PPC and x86.
[16:44] <LjL> !nickspam > unagi    (unagi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:49] <trappist> unagi: for example if the software is written in, say, java or perl, it can run on any architecture or OS
[16:49] <unagi> i see
[16:50] <unagi> i was looking for a customer if coda finale runs in linux and i could find it but i thought universal might mean that it could
[16:51] <trappist> I don't think coda finale is available for linux
[16:51] <unagi> poo
[16:51] <unagi> thank you =)
[16:53] <trappist> unagi: ah, in that context universal means it's compiled for mac as a "universal binary" so it can run on both ppc and intel based macboxen... as I guess LjL was saying
[16:54] <Vermux> Daviey: thanks. how do I connect to a win machine remotly? using rdesktop?
[16:55] <trappist> Vermux: depends on what you mean by 'connect', but if you want a remote desktop, and the windows box has rdp, then yes, rdesktop
[16:55] <jhutchins_wk> rdesktop <hostname>, rdesktop <address>.  You may want to use the -0 option to connect to the current session.
[16:56] <jhutchins_wk> Vermux: You do have to enable remote desktop on the windows box.
[16:56] <Vermux> trappist: connect=control
[16:56] <Vermux> is rdesktop and rdp and remote desktop the same?
[16:57] <Vermux> jhutchins: I enabled remote desktop on the win box, and I have the name of the computer
[16:57] <jhutchins_wk> Vermux: So try it.
[16:58] <Vermux> jhutchins: however, I did not change anything on the router
[16:58] <trappist> Vermux: name of the computer might not help if you can't resolve it via dns... might have to use ip, or add it to /etc/hosts
[16:58] <Vermux> trappist: I dont know right now the ip, I have to check it
[16:58] <Vermux> !rdesktop
[16:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:00] <Vermux> can I use krdc to connect to my windows box?
[17:01] <Tm_T> hi IRSeekBot
[17:04] <Vermux> trappist: can I connect using krdc to a windows machine?
[17:06] <Vermux> does kubuntu come with rdesktop installed?
[17:08] <tzanger> good morning... can some kind soul please point me in the direction of the standard 'info' pages for development?  I have the man pages but some of them say to refer to the info pages
[17:09] <jhutchins_wk> tzanger: They should be installed, just "info package".
[17:09] <tzanger> jhutchins_wk: yep, doesn't exist
[17:09] <jhutchins_wk> tzanger: ?
[17:09] <tzanger> man printf says to look at the info page for printf
[17:09] <jhutchins_wk> !info info
[17:09] <ubotu> info (source: texinfo): Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-6 (gutsy), package size 160 kB, installed size 328 kB
[17:10] <tzanger> info printf says no page for printf
[17:10] <jhutchins_wk> Ah.
[17:10] <llutz> tzanger: bcus you haven't installed the package containing printf
[17:10] <tzanger> llutz: yes, which is that?
[17:10] <hydrogen> llutz: what?
[17:10] <hydrogen> llutz: thats completely and totally wrong
[17:10] <llutz> not sure, libc6-dev
[17:11] <jhutchins_wk> coreutils in Mandriva.
[17:11] <jhutchins_wk> !info printf
[17:11] <ubotu> Package printf does not exist in gutsy
[17:11] <tzanger> llutz: oh I have the man page for printf, and I build all kinds of things on this box... I'm 99% sure i Have libc6-dev :-)
[17:11] <rysiek> guys, need help with sagem my411X + bluetooth + kubuntu gutsy
[17:11] <jhutchins_wk> !find printf
[17:11] <ubotu> Found: gettext, gettext-base, printfilters-ppd
[17:12] <hydrogen> tzanger: most packages say that just to be safe.. I've not seen any packages thus far where the info page had something the man page didn't
[17:12] <hydrogen> and man is much nicer to read than info
[17:12] <tzanger> hydrogen: hmm... okay
[17:12] <tzanger> thanks :-)
[17:12] <hydrogen> I'm not sure what ubuntu/debian does with info pages
[17:12] <rysiek> I keep getting "Connection refused" when trying to use the rfcomm device
[17:13] <llutz> tzanger: so sry for telling sh.t
[17:14] <jhutchins_wk> tzanger: There's also a 99% probability that there's an info page repository on the web somewhere.
[17:17] <subspider> hi people
[17:17] <subspider> i have problem my keyboard is not weel configured
[17:18] <subspider> can someone help me
[17:18] <subspider> __
[17:20] <Lynoure> subspider: What kind of problem you have with it?
[17:21] <subspider> is not well configured
[17:21] <Lynoure> subspider: If you want to change the layout to different language, check K->System Settings->Regional&Language->Keyboard layout
[17:21] <subspider> ok
[17:21] <subspider> thnks
[17:24] <subspider> ok. thnks now is repaired
[17:24] <subspider> ;)
[17:27] <ronny_> hiho
[17:39] <ibou> how to read dvd with kmplayer ?
[17:39] <EDinNY> install went well...undate bombed...on my old Dell computer
[17:40] <EDinNY> I tried and apt-get and it said to run dkpg
[17:40] <EDinNY> I needed to repair grub before it would reboot
[17:40] <EDinNY> anyone seen this before?
[17:42] <MGalaxy> hi, I can DL non-GPL themes in Emerald, the message is "Can not call Tar file", any solution?
[17:42] <EDinNY> now dkpg is asking which version of files to use and I don't know the answer
[17:42] <MGalaxy> con not*
[17:42] <somiran> hi can anyone tell me my kubuntu panel is not working
[17:43] <feierfox> hello
[17:43] <EDinNY> what panel is not working?
[17:43] <somiran> it's showing no active window now
[17:43] <feierfox> how to change the window-manager back from beryl?
[17:43] <somiran> desktop panel
[17:43] <EDinNY> the line on the bottom of your screen?
[17:43] <somiran> ya
[17:44] <EDinNY> how long you been using kde?
[17:44] <EDinNY> on that machine?
[17:44] <somiran> 3 month
[17:44] <EDinNY> so if you deleted that account, you would miss things?
[17:45] <EDinNY> how did you loose it?
[17:45] <frank232> feierfox: alt-f2   type   kwin --replace
[17:45] <somiran> now what should i do
[17:45] <somiran> just 2 hour ago
[17:45] <feierfox> is kwin default then?
[17:46] <frank232> feierfox: yeah kwin is the kde window manager
[17:46] <feierfox> thanks a lot
[17:46] <EDinNY> I would create a new account, whch would end up with a new panel, then move over your data and change the ownership, but there are otherw ways
[17:46] <somiran> tell me please
[17:46] <feierfox> hmm, after replacing kwin, my kde is anymore a litle bit slow
[17:47] <somiran> please tell me what should i do now
[17:48] <arkygeek_> hi guys.  trying to print to a epson rx640 that is connected to an iMac that has sharing turned on... works printing directly, but not over the netwrok... any hints?
[17:49] <EDinNY> arkygeek_: what print method are you using to that mac?
[17:49] <somiran> hey please tell me how to make my kde desktop panel work again
[17:49] <EDinNY> somiran: I told you what I would do...what changes did you make?
[17:50] <somiran> EDinNY nothing i did changed
[17:50] <blanky> Hello
[17:50] <blanky> can someone help me ?
[17:51] <EDinNY> blanky: maybe...ask
[17:51] <blanky> how do i get on a french chat/server watever u call it ?
[17:52] <JoshOvki> !fr
[17:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:52] <blanky> my first time on konversation ^'
[17:52] <blanky> oh ok thats pretty simple xD
[17:54] <arkygeek_> EDinNY: ipp
[17:55] <arkygeek_> EDinNY: remote cups (ipp/http)
[17:55] <EDinNY> arkygeek_: does the mac support that?
[17:55] <arkygeek_> i dont know
[17:55] <EDinNY> arkygeek_: there are also 2 versions of that protocol which use different ports
[17:56]  * EDinNY looks at his printer config tool...
[17:56] <Antkin> Hello
[17:57] <EDinNY> arkygeek_: try Remote LPD queue...just about every unix supports that
[17:57] <Antkin> can you help me today?
[17:57] <arkygeek_> EDinNY: ok
[17:57] <JoshOvki> Antkin: how do we know, you havnt told us the problem
[17:57] <EDinNY> Antkin: not unless you ask a question
[17:58] <Antkin> I am serious problems with Ubuntu
[17:58] <selckin> !ask
[17:58] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:58]  * EDinNY still has problems with a new install...install works, but update hangs
[17:58] <JoshOvki> Antkin: ubuntu ot kubuntu?
[17:58] <JoshOvki> *or
[17:59] <Antkin> I want to removeUbuntut from four hard drives and install Kubuntu
[17:59] <EDinNY> antkin, just install them over what you have
[17:59] <EDinNY> or apt-get install kde....you can have both on your box
[18:00] <Antkin> will it destroy Ubuntu for good?
[18:00] <EDinNY> I use Gnome apps on my kubuntu machine
[18:00] <sigma_1234> why can openoffice not print more than one copy of a document at the same time? this is even if you set the multiple copy setting in the print dialog
[18:00] <EDinNY> Antkin: what do you want to accomplish?  new install, or add kde to your machine?
[18:01] <Antkin> New install
[18:01] <EDinNY> if your /home is in it's own directy, you can save that
[18:01] <EDinNY> Antkin: then put in the kubuntu disk and install
[18:02] <EDinNY> make sure it formats the partitions that have the os in it
[18:02] <Antkin> tried that it does not make it to the end
[18:02] <EDinNY> what does it say when it hangs?
[18:03] <Antkin> it just gets to 93% and stalls
[18:03] <EDinNY> did you have it check your cd?
[18:03] <pag> Antkin, if you already have the ubuntu, then why bother reinstalling, when you can just apt-get the additional packages?
[18:03] <Antkin> Yes it worked first time on one box had problems after that
[18:04] <EDinNY> that was my suggestions
[18:04] <EDinNY> Antkin: some cd readers are better than others...test the cd on that machine...it is in the start menu before booting
[18:05] <Antkin> I have been bannd from the Ubunt support IRC twice in one day I must remove it this week
[18:06] <Antkin> My Kubutnu dual boot is fine had no problem since I installed gutsy in Oct 2007
[18:06] <EDinNY> Antkin: you have suggesttions...try them
[18:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone! I am trying to get my Atheros-based (AR5212) wireless device working with network-manager on a wpa-personal-tkip encrypted network with DHCP. The applet stalls at 28%, wicd will connect fine and dhclient will get an IP adress. Any ideas where to start?
[18:07] <ubuntu> hi
[18:07] <jhutchins_wk> Antkin: You do understand that the only difference is the Desktop Environment is KDE instead of gnome, 99% of the system is still the same.
[18:07] <jhutchins_wk> Antkin: There's also a purekde wiki page that tells you how to just switch to kubuntu and clean up gnome.
[18:08] <MilhousePunkRock> jhutchins_wk: 99% is a bit high, but the system underneath the DE is identical...
[18:08] <Antkin> thanks I will if this carries on I'm going back to Mandrive I cannot do with any more vhassle from Ubuntu
[18:08] <EDinNY> jhutchins_wk: now that he started the install he needs to finish it...so he needs to check his install disk
[18:08] <jhutchins_wk> !purekde
[18:08] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[18:08]  * EDinNY goes to lunch
[18:08] <jhutchins_wk> MilhousePunkRock: I guess it depends on how you look at the system, the GNU pre-video stuff is what I consider important.
[18:09] <smonta> hi
[18:09] <Maxim000> how can I install GRUB from Kubuntu 7.10 liveCD?
[18:09] <pag> !grub | Maxim000
[18:09] <ubotu> Maxim000: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:09] <Antkin> I have installed KDE instead of Gnome on my Ubuntu boxes
[18:10] <MilhousePunkRock> jhutchins_wk: I doubt it makes up 99% though...
[18:10] <pag> smonta, hi. :)
[18:11] <Antkin> Bye
[18:11] <Maxim000> oh. I always forget about sudo...
[18:12] <Maxim000> pag, thanks :)
[18:12] <feierfox> hello!
[18:12] <pag> Maxim000, np :)
[18:12] <comp8> HOW CAN I FIND A GOOD TIMER TO SERVE MY 8 COMPUTERS IN LINUX
[18:12] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: Caps lock...
[18:12] <feierfox> i did some compiz-experiements and now my KDE slows down
[18:12] <feierfox> i have removed compiz yet, but the slow-mode is going on :(
[18:13] <MilhousePunkRock> comp8: Timer? As in clock? NTP?
[18:13] <MilhousePunkRock> !ntp | comp8
[18:13] <ubotu> comp8: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[18:13] <feierfox> so what can i do?
[18:14] <Stilo> anyone knows a german channel for compiz fusion?
[18:14] <comp8> no timer as in a cyber cafe timer.. which i can use to time how much time a client has spent on a certain comp for billing
[18:15] <pag> comp8, " time foo "  ;)
[18:16] <comp8> sorry but<pag> use the right language..
[18:16] <pag> comp8, the command is called 'time' the syntax for it is " time  what_ever_command_needs_to_be_timed "
[18:17] <comp8> in a cyber we have clients< the clients have to pay afer using comps> i meant that cybercafe timer as in, spent 20 min need to pay how much?>
[18:17] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:18] <pag> comp8, oh.. nevermind then...  I'd guess Kiosk might have similiar feature, but I'm not sure
[18:20] <jhutchins_wk> comp8: You could pay someone to write one and set it up for you, I know of no standard package that does that.
[18:21] <comp8> u mean no approved timer yet?
[18:21] <jhutchins_wk> comp8: I do know of a service that will meter wireless access for billing, obviously it's not free.
[18:22] <jhutchins_wk> comp8: It's not a "timer", you're looking for a usage metering and billing system.
[18:22] <Lynoure> comp8: checked on sourceforge yet?
[18:22] <jhutchins_wk> comp8: It's kindof unreasonable to expect to be able to use this stuff to make money and not expend any money or effort to support it.
[18:22] <jhutchins_wk> comp8: Find a good programmer and pay them to set it up.
[18:23] <comp8> you know we call it cafestation-cafeclient
[18:24] <Lynoure> comp8: you could try OutKafe. Never tried it myself, though, and it's not packaged for Ubuntu, I think.
[18:24] <trappist> heh.  sounds like you might get cafestated.
[18:25] <comp8> not yet wat is with sourceforge.. which site
[18:25] <Lynoure> comp8: sourceforge is sourceforce.net , OutKafe you can google for.
[18:26] <comp8> oke let me try it.
[18:28] <aaroncampbell> If I have n intel video card, and a Dell widescreen monitor, how would I go about allowing the monitor to display at the correct resolution of 1680x1050?
[18:29] <aaroncampbell> 1280x768 is the largest it seems to offer. . .
[18:32] <raoman> #kubuntu-kde4
[18:34] <jhutchins_wk> aaroncampbell: Well, you could look up the video card, and see what it's capable of.
[18:35] <martijn81> aaroncampbell: easiest to do is-> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:35] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins_wk: It handles it fine with windows, but it doesn't seem to be offering it as an option
[18:40] <Ahmuck> comp8, there is zonecd or publicip.net ... it is free
[18:41] <atomicpotato> someone - is there a KDE version of synaptic? Synaptic works, unlike adept.
[18:41] <Ahmuck> yes, i'ts called synaptic, "sudo aptitude install synaptic"
[18:41] <Ahmuck> what does not work about adept?
[18:45] <martijn81> aaroncampbell: you tried what i told ya? keep the monitor specs with you when you do that though
[18:49] <josh__> hello
[18:50] <josh__> whats this i hear about being able to put system 32 files from windows into wine
[18:50] <josh__> and it being able to work perfectly
[18:51] <jhutchins_wk> aaroncampbell: Again, you would need to look up the video card in the xorg database and see what the linux driver supports.
[18:51] <daiana> HOLA
[18:52] <Ahmuck> josh__:  you hear correctly
[18:52] <daiana> KE
[18:52] <daiana> HELLO
[18:52] <josh__> so why doesnt wine just come with them by defailt
[18:52] <josh__> default
[18:52] <josh__> or is it a legal issue
[18:52] <daiana> KIENES SON
[18:53] <daiana> ALGUIEN QUE HABLE EN ESPA;OL POR FAVOR
[18:53] <nosrednaekim> !es
[18:53] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:54] <daiana> ME ESTOY BOLVIENDO LOKA
[18:54] <daiana> ALGUIEN CON E/MAIL
[18:54] <Pici> !es
[18:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:55] <daiana> PASENLO
[18:55] <daiana> NO ENTIENDO NADAAA
[18:55] <LjL> daiana: escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[18:55] <daiana> KE
[18:56] <LjL> daiana: aqui solamente hablamos ingles, #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es para español. y no GRITES, gracias.
[18:56] <nosrednaekim> GRITES == caps?
[18:57] <estrella> now
[18:58] <estrella> hi
[18:58] <Gabe> hi.
[18:59] <estrella> how old are you_
[18:59] <Gabe> who?  me?
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> estrella» this is a help channel, not a chat channel
[18:59] <Ahmuck> not a pick up channel either
[18:59] <Gabe> that's what I thought...
[18:59] <estrella> oh oh
[19:00] <Gabe> meh.
[19:00] <estrella> msn?
[19:00] <Gabe> ok... quick ? guys....
[19:01] <Gabe> have a current install of gutsy and have lost a lot of functionality... usb wifi is gone, can't access other hdds on my system, etc....
[19:01] <Gabe> I have my home dirs set up on hda5 and system files on hda1...
[19:01] <articpenguin3800> will kubuntu play DRMed mp3s?
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> Gabe» what do you mean by "lost"
[19:01] <Gabe> was thinking of just wiping the hda1 part and reinstalling from the gutsy DVD...
[19:01] <nosrednaekim> articpenguin3800» no
[19:02] <articpenguin3800> good
[19:02] <Gabe> meaning that I had out of the box plug n pray support on the usb wifi card and now it's gone
[19:02] <Gabe> and that I'm not able to access any of my ntfs disks anymore...
[19:02] <nosrednaekim> Gabe» did you update your kernel or something?
[19:02] <Gabe> yeah... like a dummy....
[19:03] <Gabe> shoulda compiled it myself....
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> compiled the kernel? haha... no you should never have to do that yourself.
[19:04] <estrella> ok
[19:04] <Gabe> actually, I've done it several times for various distros and never had any problems.
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> Gabe» for the ntfs disks, go to system settings->advanced->disks and partitions
[19:04] <Gabe> already have...
[19:05] <estrella> for you /_
[19:05] <Gabe> I'm thinking of just wiping the hda1 partition and reinstalling from the dvd but I want to make sure I can still access all my data in the home dirs...
[19:05] <Gabe> what's the best way of doing that?
[19:06] <estrella> fine
[19:07] <nosrednaekim> Gabe» as long as your home is on the other partition you shouldn't have a problem.
[19:07] <nosrednaekim> Gabe» just reinstall over the first installation, and set the home DIR partition to be mounted as /home
[19:08] <Gabe> how does that affect the users though?  I have myself and a guest account...
[19:09] <Ahmuck> if you have a seperate partition for /home it won't affect anything for users
[19:10] <nosrednaekim> Gabe» just add the users back...
[19:10] <Ahmuck> if your /home is in the same partition, then you will have no more users
[19:10] <Gabe> k.
[19:11] <Gabe> I didn't think it would cause any problems, but I just wanted to make sure...
[19:11] <nosrednaekim> Gabe» i've done it many times, you shouldn't have any problems
[19:12] <Gabe> worst part is going to be getting compiz-fusion working again....
[19:12] <Gabe> that was a nightmare....
[19:12] <nosrednaekim> just don't update your kernel if everything i working :)
[19:12] <atomicpotato> getting compiz to work is a nightmare?
[19:12] <Gabe> guess I could try the git version now.
[19:12] <atomicpotato> I just installed it and ran "compiz"
[19:12] <Gabe> yeah... it was a radeon xpress 200m graphics card...
[19:13] <yasahiro> hey allz.... im looking into buying the HP Photosmart D5360... is it compatible with kubuntu?
[19:13] <Gabe> took forever...
[19:13] <atomicpotato> oh wait no, that's not quite true. I had to add "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" to xorg.conf.
[19:13] <estrella> white
[19:13] <estrella> black
[19:13] <estrella> red
[19:13] <estrella> blue
[19:13] <Gabe> wtf???
[19:14] <estrella> jajaj
[19:14] <nosrednaekim> yasahiro» if thats a printer, then yes, Hps are excellently supported
[19:14] <nosrednaekim> Gabe» don't worry :)
[19:15] <Erickj92> can anyone recomend some games?
[19:15] <selckin> smc
[19:16] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92» bzflag
[19:16] <nosrednaekim> glz-117
[19:16] <nosrednaekim> *gl-117
[19:16] <Gabe> I really like kolf... but that's me.
[19:17] <Gabe> looks like this is gonna take a while.
[19:18] <genii> Erickj92: http://rangit.com/software/top-8-linux-games-of-2007/
[19:19] <Erickj92> thanks
[19:19] <genii> Erickj92: np
[19:19] <genii> Erickj92: I recommend openarena and world of padman from that list
[19:19] <martijn81> Erickj92: for a shooter i can recommend Nexuiz
[19:20] <Erickj92> sweet
[19:20] <Gabe> as a side ?... does thunderbird -profilemanager run under Kubuntu?  I know it does under windows, but never had any success under *nix before....
[19:20] <Erickj92> and who said Linux doesnt have anything good
[19:30] <Gabe> yay!  networking restored!
[20:10] <Vermux> how do I change my user name password?
[20:11] <sam64> System Settings > User Managment
[20:13] <Vermux> tnx
[20:16] <Erickj92> what is the package name of world of padman?
[20:16] <Erickj92> i cant find anything in search
[20:18] <genii> Erickj92: world of padman does not have a package. You get the .run file then execute it
[20:18] <genii> Sorry for lag, work called me away
[20:19] <sebastianito> where can i find repositories to add?
[20:19] <Erickj92> do i get the .run file off the website?
[20:19] <atomicpotato> yes
[20:19] <Gabe> which packages do I need to compile nvidia kernel module?
[20:19] <atomicpotato> linux-headers and build-essential and the kernel module source
[20:23] <Ax-Ax> sorry for sucking, how do i make a zip "a" with the folder "a/b" in?
[20:24] <Dominic> in a console?
[20:24] <Ax-Ax> yes
[20:24] <Dominic> zip -r a.zip a/b
[20:25] <Ax-Ax> :)
[20:25] <Dominic> (-r is recursive, so it adds further directories if they exist)
[20:26] <Erickj92> how do i use a .run file?
[20:26] <Dominic> in a console, normally:  chmod +x file.run; ./file.run
[20:26] <jussi01> Erickj92: ./file.run from konsole
[20:26] <Dominic> make sure it's from a trusted source before you execute a random file
[20:27] <jussi01> yeah, you probably need the chmod +x also
[20:28] <unagi> in kontact when im trying to send a message i get (The server responded: "must be authenticated") what does that mean
[20:34] <Erickj92> when i do: ./worldofpadman.run, it tells me permission denied
[20:34] <Dominic> make sure you've run:  chmod +x worldofpadman.run
[20:35] <Erickj92> now it says: bad interpreter: Text file busy
[20:36] <Dominic> Erickj92: have you opened the file somewhere in an editor perhaps?
[20:36] <Erickj92> no
[20:36] <sebastianito> what repositories do i need to add!?
[20:36] <Erickj92> its just sitting on my desktop after downloading it
[20:36] <Dominic> Erickj92: the only thing that comes to mind is that something has it open
[20:37] <jussi01> sebastianito: for?
[20:37] <sebastianito> updates and packages
[20:43] <sebastianito> how does kde 4.0.1 work ?
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> sebastianito» fairly well for me..... but some people have problems
[20:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> by providing window management and desktop management abstraction layers between the X server and the end user.
[20:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh...
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Laptop» heh <_<
[20:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> how WELL does it work...  it's okay
[20:45] <sebastianito> nosrednaekim: is there an easy way for installing it alongide with kde 3.5?
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> sebastianito» yes, thats the way ti works by default
[20:46] <sebastianito> what do u mean?
[20:46] <ZoR3oL> hey all !!
[20:47] <ZoR3oL> need help for a KDE newbie user :)
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> ZoR3oL» whats wrong
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> sebastianito» you can select to go between 4.0.1 and 3, just like you can select between KDE3 and GNOME
[20:47] <ZoR3oL> hum i explain
[20:48] <ZoR3oL> i have a intel HDA chipset
[20:48] <ZoR3oL> and i have the sound on the laptop speaker but on headphone too
[20:48] <ZoR3oL> they aren't separated :s
[20:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> !sound | ZoR3oL
[20:48] <ubotu> ZoR3oL: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:49] <ZoR3oL> i have sound ;)
[20:49] <ZoR3oL> but on headphone and speaker laptop too ^^
[20:49] <sebastianito> nosrednaekim: but i want to know how to install it, or is it alredy installed?
[20:49] <ZoR3oL> at the same time !
[20:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> ZoR3oL: see the link that says "sound troubleshooting"?
[20:49] <ZoR3oL> thanks ,)
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> ZoR3oL» in kmix, they probably have separate channels
[20:50] <genii> Erickj92: try bash worldofpadman.run
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> !kde4 | sebastianito
[20:50] <ubotu> sebastianito: KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:50] <tekteen> ZoR3oL: I had that issue. It is a different answer for different hardware
[20:50] <sebastianito> ok thank u
[20:51] <Erickj92> genii, now i get "error in md5 checksum"
[20:51] <Erickj92> i gues it wasnt meant ot be
[20:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> tekteen: looking like it's hda-intel...  what did they change so drastically that it's caused this many problems?
[20:51] <ZoR3oL> omg
[20:51] <ZoR3oL> KDE4  ^^
[20:51] <sebastianito> im new, in kubuntu, where do i add the it in the repository?
[20:51] <ZoR3oL> nice desktop i love it ;)
[20:51] <genii> Erickj92: Sounds like a bad/corrupt file. Supposed to be 500 something Mb in size
[20:52] <Erickj92> 133 KB
[20:52] <tekteen> Daisuke_Laptop: it is software based switching :-)
[20:52] <Erickj92> but i thought it was just a script
[20:52] <tekteen> Daisuke_Laptop: used to be hw
[20:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> >_<
[20:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, now i see why there are so many paroblem
[20:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> +s
[20:53] <tekteen> Daisuke_Laptop: it does work
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> sebastianito» adept_manager->adept->manage repositories->3rd party repositories
[20:53] <tekteen> Daisuke_Laptop: ubuntu just can't auto detect it
[20:53] <genii> Erickj92: According to http://files.filefront.com/World+of+Padman+Linux/;7124029;/fileinfo.html should be 550.23Mb
[20:53] <ZoR3oL> in the sound troobleshooting
[20:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> tekteen: recompiling alsa is what i consider a pretty major problem
[20:54] <sebastianito> thx:D
[20:54] <ZoR3oL> i don't find what i want :s
[20:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> that shouldn't have to be done :\
[20:54] <Daisuke_Laptop> but hardy's coming, which will help :)
[20:54] <tekteen> Daisuke_Laptop: I did not recompile anything. just added a line to the config file
[20:59] <waynrdude> can anyone help me with a screen problem im having............my monitor doesnt seem to like 1024 x 768 its nice and wavy and offcenter
[20:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> tekteen: there are hda-intels that are not working at all without recompiling alsa to 1.0.15 or later, since gutsy's version is (assuming it hasn't been backported) 1.0.14
[21:00] <waynrdude>  !intel
[21:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:00] <jussi01> !fixres | waynrdude
[21:00] <ubotu> waynrdude: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:01] <angusprune> Hi, I'm having some problems with my second hard drive - It says that 20gb is taken, but only 50Mb or so of fiels are found (including hidden folders)
[21:02] <Captain_Redbeard> Has kde 4.0.2 been tagged as it should?
[21:02] <waynrdude> apparently it was the refresh rate that was causing the problem
[21:02] <jussi01> Captain_Redbeard: kde4 questions in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[21:02] <SSJ_GZ> Captain_Redbeard: Yes.
[21:03] <Captain_Redbeard> SSJ_GZ: good good... so back on schedual
[21:03] <Captain_Redbeard> jussi01: ok sry
[21:03] <sebastianito> i cant open apt updates or add/remove programs!
[21:04] <jussi01> sebastianito: whats the error?
[21:04] <sebastianito> could not open cache
[21:04] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: have you tried using the commandline tools?
[21:04] <jussi01> !aptfix | sebastianito
[21:04] <ubotu> sebastianito: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:04] <jussi01> sebastianito: I assume its the databse locked error?
[21:04] <sebastianito> su: !aptfix: event not found
[21:04] <jussi01> sebastianito: nooo
[21:05] <jussi01> sebastianito: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:05] <jussi01> sebastianito: !aptfix just calls the bot :)
[21:05] <sebastianito> aha
[21:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> whee!
[21:07] <sebastianito> jussi01: it still dont work
[21:08] <sebastianito> i get the same error
[21:08] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: and you don't have several instances of it running?
[21:09] <sebastianito> no
[21:09] <jussi01> sebastianito: please tell us the exact error?
[21:09] <sebastianito> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[21:09] <jussi01> sebastianito: did you try what it said?
[21:10] <sebastianito> i tryed the apt-get update but nothing happend
[21:10] <sebastianito> ya
[21:10] <jussi01> what about apt-setup ?
[21:10] <sebastianito> hehe i dont know how
[21:10] <sebastianito> im new
[21:10] <jussi01> sudo apt-setup in a konsole
[21:11] <sebastianito> command not found on both of them
[21:12] <jussi01> both of?
[21:12] <sebastianito> i tryed apt-setup and apt-get update, and i get command not found on both
[21:13] <jussi01> sebastianito: do this, open konsole. then type, with out the quotes: "sudo apt-setup"
[21:13] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: locate apt-setup
[21:13] <Captain_Redbeard> :P
[21:13] <sebastianito> same thing
[21:14] <sebastianito> and on locate apt-setup nothing happends
[21:15] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: sudo updatedb && locate apt-setup | grep bin
[21:15] <Captain_Redbeard> in a terminal/console ofc
[21:15] <sebastianito> ok
[21:17] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: might take a while to run
[21:17] <sebastianito> still dont work.
[21:18] <Captain_Redbeard> what does it return?
[21:19] <sebastianito> nothing, it just loaded and stopped
[21:19] <Captain_Redbeard> ehm...
[21:19] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: locate apt-get
[21:20] <sebastianito> /usr/share/man/fr/man8/apt-get.8.gz
[21:20] <sebastianito> /usr/share/man/ja/man8/apt-get.8.gz
[21:20] <sebastianito> /usr/share/man/man8/apt-get.8.gz
[21:20] <sebastianito> /usr/share/man/es/man8/apt-get.8.gz
[21:20] <sebastianito> /usr/bin/apt-get
[21:20] <Captain_Redbeard> locate works then :P
[21:20] <Captain_Redbeard> sudo apt-get update
[21:20] <sebastianito> hehe,:P
[21:20] <Captain_Redbeard> what does it return?
[21:20] <sebastianito> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[21:21] <Captain_Redbeard> voilá
[21:21] <Captain_Redbeard> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:21] <Captain_Redbeard> go to line 56
[21:21] <Captain_Redbeard> (you can check what line you're at with ctrl+c)
[21:21] <Captain_Redbeard> what does that line say?
[21:22] <sebastianito> how do i go to 56?
[21:22] <Captain_Redbeard> press down ;)
[21:22] <Captain_Redbeard> and control what line you are at with ctrl+c
[21:22] <sebastianito> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy
[21:23] <Captain_Redbeard> would be easier with vim or emacs, but I don't have time for a crash course in those editors ;)
[21:23] <sebastianito> hehe ok
[21:24] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: put a # in front of that line
[21:24] <Captain_Redbeard> press ctrl+o
[21:24] <Captain_Redbeard> and then ctrl+x
[21:24] <Captain_Redbeard> then run sudo apt-get update again
[21:25] <sebastianito> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse
[21:26] <Captain_Redbeard> erf...
[21:26] <sebastianito> i installed this 1 hour ago and its alredy weird :P
[21:26] <llutz> miscounted :)
[21:26] <Captain_Redbeard> you messed something up mate ;)
[21:26] <Captain_Redbeard> don't sorry though
[21:26] <Captain_Redbeard> we'll sort it out somehow :D
[21:26] <sebastianito> hehe yeah i install it again
[21:26] <Captain_Redbeard> *worry
[21:26] <Captain_Redbeard> naaah
[21:26] <sebastianito> thx for the help
[21:27] <sebastianito> it was when i tryed to add kde4 in the reps
[21:27] <Captain_Redbeard> yea i figured...
[21:27] <Captain_Redbeard> if you want kde4
[21:27] <Captain_Redbeard> I would reccomend you to use hardy instead of gutsy
[21:28] <sebastianito> but isn't it more buggy?
[21:28] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: I use it at work...
[21:28] <Captain_Redbeard> so nope
[21:28] <Captain_Redbeard> or well
[21:28] <Captain_Redbeard> of course there are bugs... but that's how you learn :)
[21:28] <sebastianito> :)
[21:28] <Captain_Redbeard> and you don't run in to them that often
[21:28] <sebastianito> ok i will
[21:29] <sebastianito> the one that takes 500mb is that the one?
[21:29] <Captain_Redbeard> I learned by messing up like 50 slackware systems back in the days
[21:29] <Captain_Redbeard> the ISO you mean?
[21:29] <miso> I've got ssh (openssh-client) installed but bash can't find it - (The program 'ssh' is currently not installed...) - can someone point in the direction of a solution?
[21:29] <Captain_Redbeard> miso: mememe! :)
[21:29] <sebastianito> yup
[21:29] <Captain_Redbeard> miso: your PATH is probably messed up
[21:30] <sebastianito> can u send me the link?
[21:30] <sebastianito> i want to be sure i get the right one.
[21:30] <miso> Thanks CR - apologies for intrusion...
[21:30] <Captain_Redbeard> miso: no sweat mate :)
[21:31] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: should be a link from the frontpage of kubuntu.org
[21:31] <llutz> miso: apt-cache policy openssh-client
[21:31] <sebastianito> ok
[21:32] <miso> llutz: Installed: 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.1
[21:33] <Captain_Redbeard> maybe someone can help me out then... :P I need someone who's got experience with Xen on Itanium...
[21:33] <sebastianito> Captain_redbeard: is it a graphical installation?
[21:33] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: the hardy one? yea!
[21:33] <sebastianito> ok thx for the help, bye
[21:34] <Captain_Redbeard> sebastianito: take care mate
[21:34] <Captain_Redbeard> no one has any itanium experience with Xen?
[21:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> the itanic actually works with something?
[21:43] <neomito> hola
[21:43] <dey> aca ablan ingles nomas neomito
[21:44] <neomito> chispas
[21:44] <dey> entra al otro
[21:44] <neomito> do you speak  spanish?
[21:44] <dey> yo no
[21:45] <neomito> arrivederchiiii
[21:45] <mith_> all of the dependencies of superkaramba are installed, and i've installed it from repos. But those themes, wich uses scripts doesn't work. why?
[21:45] <dey> chau
[21:48] <ghostcube> hi guys :) question for gutsy and compiz-fusion and compiz taskbar on kde 3.5.9
[21:49] <ghostcube> has there any option changed for kde that iot wont recognize any hints in [General] section of  .kde/share/config/ktaskbarrc
[21:49] <Cequine> Hello, I'm trying to connect to MacOS using samba. I can connect and see the shared folder on the mac, but have a connection problem.  the error on the mac says: "Unable to connect becuase some information in the address can not be read, error-36"
[21:49] <Cequine> Also i can not see anyhting from this kubuntu machine,. the smb:/<ip> resolves, but no shares are found
[21:51] <ghostcube> ghostcube: the option ShowAllWindows=false worked till kde 3.5.7 ^^ now it doesnt work
[21:51] <MasseR> Hi. My /tmp is overflowing even though I just did rm -fr /tmp
[21:51] <ghostcube> why is there my nick infront of my post eh :|
[21:51] <MasseR> overflow              1.0M  992K   32K  97% /tmp
[21:52] <Dominic> 1MB is a pretty small tmp partition
[21:52] <MasseR> Dominic: Default kubuntu-install
[21:52] <PhilRod> on what? a floppy disk?
[21:54] <MasseR> Dominic: Yep
[21:54] <MasseR> Dominic: But why is it 1mb?
[21:54] <PhilRod> hrm, I installed kubuntu a couple of weeks ago, and I don't even have a separate partition for /tmp. Are you sure you used the defaults? Do you have some weird partition type that doesn't really report its size?
[21:54] <ghostcube> btw are there any fixes for the admin session bug in kcontrol and systemsettings, complaining missing modul
[21:54] <Dominic> MasseR: I've no idea - I used my own partitioning.
[21:57] <acemo> is it possible to install windows after u have installed linux and not having to re-install grub?
[21:57] <tekteen> acemo: no
[21:57] <tekteen> acemo: you need to reset grub
[21:58] <tekteen> acemo: also windows install cds like to delete your entire partition
[21:58] <tekteen> acemo: if it is a restore cd
[21:58] <acemo> tekteen: already got a seperate partition for windows
[21:59] <tekteen> acemo: but the cd may repartition its self
[21:59] <tekteen> acemo: And there is no way to stop it
[21:59] <acemo> tekteen: its not an unattended cd
[21:59] <tekteen> ok
[22:00] <tekteen> you will still need to reinstall grub in the mbr
[22:01] <acemo> is it possible to install only grub with the kubuntu cd?
[22:01] <olie> can anyone help me
[22:01] <Erickj92> my taskbar stoped working
[22:01] <Erickj92> it is stuck hidden
[22:02] <PhilRod> Erickj92: is it still running? (look in the ksysguard or the output of ps uxww)
[22:02] <tekteen> acemo: there is a cd for that
[22:02] <PhilRod> (the process name you want is "kicker")
[22:02] <tekteen> acemo: a grub fix cd
[22:02] <tekteen> !grub
[22:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:02] <olie> kopete cant establish a connection but my internet is working fine
[22:02] <Erickj92> PhilRod, it is still running, because i see the effects from compiz being released from it
[22:02] <acemo> tekteen: what cd?
[22:03] <acemo> ahh :)
[22:03] <nosrednaekim> olie» ping works,but kpete doesn't detect that you are connected tot he internet?
[22:04] <Erickj92> PhilRod, yes, the process "kicker" is still running. and i have tried a reboot also
[22:04] <olie> yes nosrednaekim
[22:04] <PhilRod> Erickj92: dcop kicker default restart
[22:04] <Erickj92> what?
[22:04] <PhilRod> run that command in a konsole - what happens?
[22:04] <Erickj92> one sec
[22:05] <stefanov> Hi guts
[22:05] <stefanov> guys*
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> olie» are you using kneworkmanager?
[22:05] <stefanov> can someone explain me what should i do to be able to play mp3 i just installed kubuntu
[22:05] <olie> Yes nosrednaekim
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> hey stefanov
[22:05] <Erickj92> PhilRod, the bar poped up for a second, then minimized itself to hidden, and wont show again
[22:06] <PhilRod> ok, so at least it's starting up correctly
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> olie» are you using wireless, or wired?
[22:06] <olie> wired nosrednaekim
[22:07] <Erickj92> PhilRod, is it fixable or do i have to reformat a 3rd time?
[22:07] <PhilRod> Erickj92: go to system settings -> ... D'oh, no panel settings in system settings. That's pretty dumb
[22:07] <heath> can someone point me to some documentation on upgrading a kernel with a fakeraid?
[22:07] <PhilRod> Erickj92: everything in linux is fixable, unless your machine doesn't boot :-)
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> olie» then kill knetworkmanager and tell it not to start on startup, knetworkmanager is not neccesary for wired connections
[22:07] <Erickj92> ok
[22:08] <heath> install knemo
[22:08] <Erickj92> any other ideas?
[22:08] <PhilRod> Erickj92: Hit Alt+F2, and in the dialog that appears, run kcontrolcenter
[22:08] <PhilRod> sorry, kcontrol
[22:08] <Erickj92> ok, its open
[22:08] <PhilRod> go to desktop->panels
[22:08] <olie> how do i kill and tell it not to start up on start-up nosrednaekim
[22:08] <Erickj92> ok
[22:08] <PhilRod> click on the "hiding" tab, and select "only hide when a panel-hiding button is clicked"
[22:08] <PhilRod> then apply
[22:09] <stefanov> How do i play mp3 ?
[22:09] <Erickj92> ok, thanks
[22:09] <Erickj92> now i can mess around with it and see if i can get it to hide correctly
[22:09] <nosrednaekim> olie» right click on it and say "quit"
[22:09] <Erickj92> PhilRod, now it works on autohide
[22:09] <Erickj92> heh
[22:09] <olie> ahh done it nosrednaekim
[22:09] <heath> stefanov:  look at this http://kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy
[22:10]  * PhilRod suggests you file a bug against system settings for that - it's kinda dumb to not include something that's actually useful
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> olie» did that fix it?
[22:10] <PhilRod> (well, you can get the panel config by right-clicking on the panel, which you can't do if the panel isn't working)
[22:10] <olie> nope nosrednaekim
[22:11] <Erickj92> i know. that is why i was lost and sitting here going "wth?"
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> olie» are you using a proxy?
[22:11] <olie> nosrednaekim: i have noi idea
[22:11] <heath> how do you search for an irc?
[22:12] <Erickj92> PhilRod, is it possible to have more pannels?
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> olie» then you probably aren't ;).... so into system settings->advanced->system services
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> Erickj92» certainly
[22:12] <Y-Town> heath: are you looking for channels or server?
[22:12] <PhilRod> heath: if you mean "search for a particular channel", then /msg chanserv list #foo*
[22:12] <heath> I need help with a fakeraid install
[22:12] <olie> yea
[22:14] <tekteen> heath: I have not done it but I know of a guide
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> click on the "network status daemon" and tell it to stop...also uncheck "use"
[22:14] <olie> nosrednaekim: yea
[22:14] <tekteen> heath: http://www.linux.com/base/ldp/howto/HOWTO-INDEX/os.html#OSRAID
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> olie» THAT should definately fix it.
[22:15] <mith_> all of the dependencies of superkaramba are installed, and i've installed it from repos. But those themes, wich uses scripts doesn't work. why?
[22:16] <heath> tekteen: the problem I am having is upgrading my kernel with my fakeraid setup... grub just hangs
[22:16] <olie> nosrednaekim: there isnt one called network staus daemon :(
[22:17] <stefanov> can anyone explain me step by step how to listen music? mp3
[22:17] <PhilRod> stefanov: google "kubuntu mp3", read the first page there?
[22:18] <heath> stefanov: read the guide.... it will tell you
[22:18] <heath> stefanov: http://kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy#Multimedia_Codecs_Installation
[22:18] <tekteen> heath: I do not know anything about it
[22:18] <heath> tekteen: thanks anyway man..
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> olie» duh!... my bad...., go to "service manager", not system services
[22:19] <Baever> Has anyone got the same problem like me to set screen resolution ?
[22:20] <heath> Baever: what do you mean
[22:21] <stefanov> thx , i only have one more question i am currently using kubuntu 6.06 , how do i update to 7.10 ?
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» that is difficult, probably easiest to do a fresh install
[22:23] <heath> I agree
[22:23] <heath> or you wil have to do all intervals
[22:23] <stefanov> isnt there a option like autoupdate and let it do it?
[22:23] <heath> not from 6.06
[22:23] <stefanov> from where is?
[22:23] <heath> you would have to go 6.10 --> 7.04 --> blah blah
[22:24] <stefanov> nvm i hate reinstaling
[22:24] <stefanov> its batter if i can just autoupdate
[22:24] <stefanov> so how i do it to 6.10
[22:24] <stefanov> and than to 7.4
[22:24] <stefanov> ?
[22:25] <Baever> heath: i get an error message when i want to use the "Monitor & Display - System settings" and the error message is "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded"
[22:25] <stefanov> and one more thing , i run a command this one sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras it doesnt say cmd was wrong but also it doesnt show nothing? like nothing is doing
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» well, thats not a package in dapper
[22:26] <heath> stefanov: that is because you are running 6.06
[22:26] <olie> nosrednaekim: thnx everythings fine now
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> olie» awesome
[22:26] <stefanov> ok so can u explain me again how can i update?
[22:27] <heath> Baever: that's strange... try it with su
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» yes, add the dapper-proposed repository and then grab the update-manager utility
[22:28] <heath> Baever: kdesu kcontrol
[22:29] <stefanov> ok i will and how do i run terminal commands?
[22:29] <stefanov> left click on destkop and run? or?
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> from the konsole
[22:29] <stefanov> ok i found out
[22:29] <heath> stefanov: why not just do a clean install to 7.10
[22:34] <stefanov> somebody said how to update but i got comp restarted can u repost pls it was something about add some reposatoris
[22:34] <heath> stefanov: why not just clean install 7.10?
[22:34] <nosrednaekim> add dapper-proposed and get the update-manager
[22:34] <stefanov> because i dont have cd
[22:35] <stefanov> ok where do i put that?
[22:35] <heath> do you have a burner?
[22:35] <stefanov> you mean program like nero?
[22:36] <Artimus> stefanov: I'm guessing a burner as in a CD-RW drive
[22:36] <stefanov> so how do i execly do this dapper-proposed?
[22:36] <stefanov> yes i have
[22:36] <heath> download 7.10 and burn it with K3b
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» run "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» and add the following line
[22:37] <stefanov> ok i run it ? now what line?
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-proposed main
[22:38] <stefanov> at the end of txt?
[22:39] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Was kdesudo even around back in Dapper?
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» nope...
[22:39] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Didn't think so.
[22:39] <Baever> Anyone know how i can deactivate all this fance desktop functions because this computer is ver slow =/
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» but kdesu has always been around :)
[22:39] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: I believe it's basically been totally deprecated in Hardy.  It may not even work...  Let's see
[22:39] <stefanov> so i add this line at the end and what now?
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» save it, and run "sudo apt-get update"
[22:40] <Artimus> kdesu is aliased to kdesudo
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» yep
[22:40] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: I keep forgetting that I'm running Hardy.  Until I get bored and login to KDE4.  Then I remember very quickly...
[22:40] <stefanov> nothing happen
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» did you run that from the terminal?
[22:41] <stefanov> oh nop i will just  asec
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» run all commands from th terminal
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» haha.... kde4 in hardy is unstable?
[22:43] <stefanov> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/locl - open (resource temorarily unabailable)
[22:43] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Yes.  Plasma dies a lot.  I also made the mistake of turning on 3D Effects (Compiz or whatever it uses).  It renders the left half of the screen perfectly.  The right side...  Not so well.  I'm not even going to try to debug that one until the weekend.
[22:43] <Y-Town> anyone know how to set vlc as the default dvd player in kde?
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> Artimus» you can always erase the kwinrc and go back to defaults...
[22:44] <stefanov> nosrednaekim any other solution?
[22:44] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Yeah, there was just a bunch of updates to KDE4.  I figure I'll delete my .kde4 profile.  I'm running on KDE3 right now.  It's fine, but I haven't found anything really "new" yet.
[22:44] <stefanov> or you can help me how to setup so i can listen to music?
[22:44] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» run "ps -ax"and look for another apt process
[22:45] <stefanov> if that is easyer
[22:45] <stefanov> mp3 that is
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» yeah.. that might be easier :)
[22:45] <stefanov> ok so pls tutor me
[22:45] <stefanov> xD
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> first you have to fix that lock problem though
[22:45] <stefanov> me?
[22:45] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | stefanov run this command
[22:45] <ubotu> stefanov run this command: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:47] <stefanov> for both command it said command not found
[22:47] <heath> how do you configure the taskbar in KDE4??
[22:47] <nosrednaekim> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a              doesn't work?
[22:47] <swatto> Anyone know how to stop kdevelop making backups of my source files?
[22:48] <stefanov> now it does must be my bad
[22:48] <stefanov> ok so what now?
[22:48] <nosrednaekim> !info libxine-ffmpeg (dapper)
[22:48] <ubotu> Package libxine-ffmpeg does not exist in dapper
[22:48] <Artimus> heath: Might want to try #kubuntu-KDE4 for further KDE4 questions.  You really don't.  You can add widgets to it, that's about it.
[22:49] <nosrednaekim> !info libxine1-ffmpeg (dapper)
[22:49] <ubotu> Package libxine1-ffmpeg does not exist in dapper
[22:49] <heath> gotcha
[22:49] <stefanov> ok guys what next do i do?
[22:49] <Y-Town> Can someone tell me how to set vlc as the default dvd player?
[22:50] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» hrm.....  Done
[22:53] <stefanov> i gurs this is correct?
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» good, now run "apt-cache search ffmpeg"
[22:54] <stefanov> terminal
[22:54] <stefanov> ?
[22:54] <sd32> what a waste of time.. showing intrest in the gOS distro
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> yes yes... run everything in a terminal
[22:55] <stefanov> nothing :(
[22:55] <stefanov> btw is thre some shortcut to terminal commands?
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» tab should auto complete them
[22:56] <stefanov> tab?
[22:56] <stefanov> anyway , anyother idea?
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» you must be doing something wrong... on my dapper chroot, I have 6 ffmpeg packages
[22:56] <stefanov> just one question
[22:56] <stefanov> what version kubuntu u running?
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» could you open up your /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin it?
[22:57] <stefanov> ok tell me command how to open
[22:57] <stefanov> ?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» currently, gutsy, but I havea .... oh never mind.. my bad, thats a hardy sources.list now.
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:58] <stefanov> so u want me to paste all sources.list to you?
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[22:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:00] <stefanov> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58306/
[23:00] <stefanov> here it is
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> thanks
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» ah! run "apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs"
[23:02] <stefanov> again nothing :(
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» does "apt-cache search kde" show anything?
[23:03] <stefanov> yeah it open a box
[23:03] <stefanov> but its black
[23:04] <stefanov> and in title it said Finished
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> stefanov» what? where are you running this?
[23:05] <stefanov> terminal
[23:05] <stefanov> like u said
[23:05] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[23:05] <Daisuke_Ido> stefanov: konsole
[23:06] <stefanov> well it automaticly go terminal
[23:06] <Daisuke_Ido> open konsole
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> run "konsole"
[23:06] <stefanov> u mean right click and run command
[23:06] <stefanov> ?
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> and run suff from there
[23:06] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> no
[23:06] <stefanov> than how to open konsole
[23:06] <stefanov> omg i am realy
[23:06] <stefanov> sorry
[23:06] <stefanov> i am big noob
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> right click, run command, "konsole"
[23:06] <stefanov> ok
[23:06] <stefanov> btw
[23:07] <stefanov> ok
[23:07] <stefanov> now?
[23:08] <rrbox> some1 familiar with VLC and tvtuner card ?
[23:08] <Dorwin6> hi guys , my kubuntu has some problem, when I turned on my computer, it went to desktop then KDE Wallet Service - KDE Daemon hanged, I cant seem to connect my wireless
[23:09] <Dorwin6> anyone have any idea?
[23:09] <stefanov> nosrednaekim ok what now?
[23:10] <swatto> what command can i type in terminal to get network info - like IP address etc?
[23:10] <Dorwin6> swatto : ifconfig
[23:11] <swatto> thanks :)
[23:11] <Dorwin6> you are welcome
[23:13] <Dorwin6> can anyone help me ?
[23:14] <swatto> Dorwin6 try not setting a password on the wallet and see what happens
[23:14] <Dorwin6> swatto : i cant even adjust anything it is freeze
[23:16] <jussi01> rrbox: tvtime works well for me
[23:16] <suwro> hello - I wonder if kubuntu 7.10 is stable - I currently use debian/lenny-sid, it is stable but I Have some problems with amd64/lib32 applications - I own a Dell Inspiron 1501 - I am a developer, i use openLaszlo, php, flash, mysql, etc to make web/intranet applications - I just need something stable for my desktop..
[23:16] <rrbox> jussi01: yeah same here, but on VLC audio doesn't map to the line-in device
[23:17] <StefanoV>  i got in konsole and now when i found a file what is command to download it?
[23:17] <suwro> oh - and I consider KDE4 not ready for desktop - is gutsy comming with kde4 ??
[23:17] <Daisuke_Ido> suwro: if you're not using more than 4gb of ram in your desktop machine, there's zero point in using 64 bit anyway.
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> suwro: gutsy's been out for months, and it comes with 3.5.8
[23:18] <suwro> Daisuke_Laptop: I have problems for example with speedtouch driver...
[23:18] <Daisuke_Ido> hardy (the next release in april) will be released in both flavors
[23:18] <Dorwin6> hi jussi01
[23:18] <StefanoV> i got in konsole and now when i found a file what is command to download it?
[23:18] <suwro> if i run kernel on amd64 - can't make brctl to work any more...
[23:19] <Artimus> suwro: Unless KDE4 gets a lot better soon, I'm recommending that most of my friends just stay with KDE3.  I'm running KDE3 in Hardy right now.
[23:19] <Daisuke_Ido> suwro: on a dell inspiron?  are you using the dell-provided cd?  they provide drivers for ALL of their stuff (i use an insprion 1420 myself)
[23:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Artimus: bear in mind that kde3 wasn't all that spectacular when it came out
[23:19] <hydrogen> Artimus: your statement makes no sense
[23:20] <suwro> Daisuke_Laptop: speedtouch is an usb adsl high speed modem - I had that on amd64 (debian) running - but my old hdd crashed.
[23:20] <hydrogen> do you mean that if kde4 will get real better soon you will reccomend it now?
[23:20] <hydrogen> or if it doesn't get better realsoonnow(tm) you will recommend kde3 until the world ends?
[23:20] <suwro> now i run i386 distro
[23:20] <Dorwin6> now KDE control centre hangs
[23:20] <suwro> but I still have problems - because I have amd64 processor - no acpi for me...
[23:20] <Daisuke_Ido> you just said "I currently use debian/lenny-sid, it is stable but I Have some problems with amd64/lib32 applications"
[23:21] <Dragnslcr> Unless you have 4+ GB of memory, there's no good reason to run the amd64 version anyway
[23:21] <Daisuke_Ido> suwro: go to dell's site
[23:21] <Artimus> hydrogen: If KDE  4 isn't better realsoonnow(tm), I will recommend that users I know stay with KDE3 until Intrepid.
[23:21] <Daisuke_Ido> get the iso for gutsy that has their drivers streamlined
[23:21] <StefanoV> Artimus when i do "apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs" and get a list of files,How do i download tham?
[23:21] <Daisuke_Ido> and voila!
[23:21] <suwro> Daisuke_Laptop: yes - If i fire up my amd64 kernel - all devices are seen and working correctly except speedtouch modem...
[23:21] <Daisuke_Ido> OI
[23:21] <Artimus> StefanoV: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2 PACKAGE3
[23:21] <Daisuke_Ido> am i not getting through to you?
[23:21] <suwro> Linux dell 2.6.22-4-486 #1 Tue Feb 12 15:04:28 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> there's NO reason to use the 64-bit version
[23:22] <Dorwin6> now KDE control centre hangs, does anyone know the command to fix it
[23:22] <StefanoV> artimus i type that in same konsole where i found tham?
[23:22] <hydrogen> Artimus: 4.0.2 will be better realsoonnow
[23:22] <Artimus> StefanoV: Sure
[23:22] <suwro> Daisuke_Laptop: but how about acpi ?
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> YES gutsy is stable, and i just told you where to get the iso that will have drivers for most of your releases
[23:22] <hydrogen> it already has a lot of the major things
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> works fine for 32-bit
[23:22] <Daisuke_Ido> suspend, hibernate, all fine
[23:23] <suwro> Daisuke_Laptop: ok - thank you - I'll download Gutsy
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> -releases +hardware :)
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> it's well worth it :D
[23:23] <suwro> Daisuke_Laptop: God bless you man..
[23:23] <suwro> ;)
[23:23] <sebbar> hi, how do I check my network traffic from the command line?
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> good luck, stop by any time
[23:23] <Artimus> hydrogen: I'll personally use it.  It's newer linux users I'm concerned about.  They're still rather upset about the whole Flash thing...
[23:23] <Daisuke_Ido> so there's a flash issue with kde4?
[23:24] <hydrogen> not sure what flash has to do with kde4?
[23:24] <hydrogen> at all?
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[23:24] <Artimus> hydrogen: It doesn't
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> that's...
[23:24] <hydrogen> oh
[23:24] <Artimus> "New users freak out when stuff breaks"
[23:24] <hydrogen> okay, I see your logic!
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> that is a true statement
[23:24] <hydrogen> if one thing breaks.. then everything will boviously break
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> for the most part
[23:24] <hydrogen> and we are much better sticking our heads in the sand
[23:24] <Daisuke_Ido> hydrogen: murphy's law, donchaknow?
[23:25] <Artimus> "If I believe KDE4 is more prone to break for them than KDE3, I will not recommend KDE4 just because it's new and pretty"
[23:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Artimus: the point is that unless people USE kde4, it won't get better
[23:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Artimus: what's prone to break, really?
[23:27] <Artimus> Daisuke_Ido: Last night, Plasma crashed, leaving a totally empty desktop.  Compiz (or is it XGL?) is going to break something.  They *WILL* turn it on and it will crash at least one box.
[23:27] <StefanoV> Artimus after i download all of this what is next step?
[23:27] <Daisuke_Ido> *sigh*
[23:27] <jussi01> Daisuke_Ido: Artimus, please take this to either #kubuntu-kde4 or #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:27] <Daisuke_Ido> kde4 has its own compositing, no compiz.
[23:28] <Artimus> StefanoV: I don't know, what are you trying to accomplish?  You asked me how to install them, I answered that.
[23:28] <Daisuke_Ido> sebbar: netstat?
[23:28] <StefanoV> i am instaling some play to listen to music
[23:29] <Artimus> StefanoV: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[23:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Artimus: dapper.
[23:29] <Artimus> StefanoV: Ok, nevermind what I said.
[23:29] <StefanoV> i cant find that package
[23:29] <StefanoV> but i installed allready some other libxine packages
[23:29] <StefanoV> so where can i load tham?
[23:29] <Artimus> StefanoV: I'd have to guess that package was NOT in Dapper.
[23:30] <sebbar> Daisuke_Ido: tnx I solved it. I was sending a 5mb mail through gmail and wanted to check if it was still doing something... now it got sent :)
[23:30] <nosredna_ekim> StefanoV» sorry, did you get it fixed?
[23:30] <Daisuke_Ido> StefanoV: libxine-extracodecs is the package you want in dapper
[23:31] <StefanoV> o<nosrednaekim> stefanov» ah! run "apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs"
[23:31] <StefanoV> i did this
[23:31] <StefanoV> and i downloaded
[23:31] <StefanoV> those 6packages
[23:31] <StefanoV> and now what
[23:31] <StefanoV> ?
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> that didn't download anything...
[23:31] <StefanoV> no no i downloaded tham
[23:31] <Daisuke_Ido> you did sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs ?
[23:31] <StefanoV> i type later
[23:31] <StefanoV> yeah
[23:31] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" will install them
[23:31] <Daisuke_Ido> are you using amarok?
[23:32] <nosrednaekim> StefanoV» ok, then, restart amarok
[23:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, a step ahead
[23:32] <StefanoV> sorry for this nubish question but how to do that?
[23:32] <StefanoV> u mean rr computer?
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> StefanoV» right click on the amarok icon in the system tray and say "quit"
[23:33] <nosrednaekim> then run amarok
[23:33] <StefanoV> I dont get any amarok icon
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> ok, then just cloe amarok
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> *cloe
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> *close
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> shees
[23:34] <StefanoV> and that would be done?
[23:34] <nosrednaekim> StefanoV» what?
[23:34] <StefanoV> how to close it?
[23:35] <StefanoV> amarok
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> hit the X button in the upper right corner.
[23:35] <StefanoV> look i am realy noob and new at all this now where to hit this button?
[23:35] <nosrednaekim> StefanoV» do you have an amarok window open?are you running amarok right now?
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> StefanoV: do you have a window that says "amarok" on it?
[23:36] <StefanoV> i think no
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, then open it from the k-menu
[23:36] <StefanoV> i have runing konversation and konqueror
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> BBL
[23:36] <Daisuke_Ido> K Menu > Multimedia (i think?) > Amarok
[23:37] <StefanoV> yeah
[23:37] <StefanoV> ok
[23:37] <StefanoV> i did
[23:37] <StefanoV> and what now?
[23:37] <Daisuke_Ido> try to play an mp3
[23:37] <StefanoV> it wont :(
[23:37] <Daisuke_Ido> error message?
[23:37] <StefanoV> nop
[23:37] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[23:37] <StefanoV> nothing
[23:37] <StefanoV> just like before
[23:38] <StefanoV> i click play and it only stand there like nothing happen
[23:38] <jussi01> Does anyone know where to find images scanned wit kooka?
[23:38] <Daisuke_Ido> did you open a file first?
[23:38] <StefanoV> w8 after i downloaded that 6 codex
[23:38] <StefanoV> libx...
[23:38] <StefanoV> what i do next?
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> is it asking a question or something?
[23:39] <Daisuke_Ido> brb, gotta throw laundry in
[23:40] <StefanoV> no nothing just open a newline
[23:40] <StefanoV> to type new command
[23:40] <StefanoV> well that was
[23:40] <StefanoV> later
[23:40] <StefanoV> and i did
[23:41] <StefanoV> earlier*
[23:41] <StefanoV> i am all lose
[23:41] <jussi01> !enter
[23:41] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:41] <StefanoV> sudo apt-get install PACKAGE1 PACKAGE2 PACKAGE3 PACKAGE4 PACKAGE5 PACKAGE6
[23:42] <StefanoV> and than it download , all of it... and dont know , should i do something more after that to install it?
[23:42] <StefanoV> !enter
[23:42] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:42] <StefanoV> axa i see :P
[23:46] <stefanov> ok i rr computer
[23:46] <stefanov> but i still cant load mp3
[23:47] <tekteen> !mp3
[23:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:55] <stefanov> what are commands to find codex in dropper?