[20:32] <MonkeyDust> palko7  what happens when you try? 'nothing' is not an answer
[20:32] <Pliind> Thanks for the help escott!
[20:33] <palko7> when i click install the installer it just loads the download page again
[20:33] <palko7> and doesnt actually begin the download
[20:33] <DJones> palko7: There has been an issue with the ubuntu.com website but sounds like that has been fixed now, may be worth trying again
[20:33] <mc_mikeehbwoi> anyone knows the answer to the question i just typed a few secs ago?
[20:34] <palko7> tried again does the same thing
[20:34] <palko7> just loads ubuntu.com/download
[20:34] <DJones> palko7: I've just tried, I get that problem as well
[20:34] <SubCool> can someone help me with a backup-? i am dealing with ticked off windows/kubuntu box.. im using a LiveUSB to access the drives, but when i try to cp files from the HDD to the USB, i get premission denied
[20:34] <mc_mikeehbwoi> try as root :)
[20:35] <mc_mikeehbwoi> or use puppy linux :D
[20:35] <mc_mikeehbwoi> for backup
[20:35] <Sidewinder1> !rootirc | mc_mikeehbwoi
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> !patience| mc_mikeehbwoi
[20:36] <OerHeks> palko7 running 64 bit windows?
[20:36] <palko7> yea
[20:36] <OerHeks> wubi is 32 bit, AFAIK
[20:36] <palko7> ok
[20:37] <palko7> ill just try it with a usb stick then
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> palko7  that's the normal and correct way
[20:37] <palko7> yea i just figured wubi would be easier
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> palko7  wubi is not an independant installation, it's inside windows
[20:38] <Pliind> Ok i got the nomodeset part, understand what needs to be done, But where? since i cant boot the stick i need to do something now running windows right? right now im dicking around in boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:38] <Sidewinder1> palko7, I would suggest that you stay away from wubi; WADR to the developers, of course. :)
[20:39] <BlueChaos> Thx for help guys
[20:39] <BlueChaos> I' done it
[20:39] <meph15t0> hello every one
[20:40] <meph15t0> just changed the motherboar and the processor (amd a4-3400) and ubuntu 12.04 is not rendering. just showing a noisy purple screen- Any advise brothers?
[20:40] <SubCool> mc_mikeehbwoi, why wouldnt it work as a user? -
[20:40] <SubCool> mc_mikeehbwoi, doesnt this mean all the fiels are going to require root access to view and alter?
[20:40] <palko7> ok, so if im trying to dual boot windows and ubuntu, if i partition a disk and create unallocated space do i need to format that space or no?
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> palko7  the installer does it for you
[20:41] <palko7> ok
[20:41] <palko7> thanks
[20:42] <mc_mikeehbwoi> SubCool: no idea, but do try it with puppy linux, or maybe your usb is write protected or mounted as read only
[20:42] <escott> Pliind, when you boot the livecd there is a moment you can press shift or enter and it brings up a menu. select english and then you can find a nomodeset option (I think it is under F7)
[20:43] <escott> meph15t0, hit the up arrow. what does it say?
[20:43] <mc_mikeehbwoi> SubCool: if you can view the files it should be copied
[20:43] <mc_mikeehbwoi> well
[20:43] <Pliind> thanks escott, ill give it a try!
[20:43] <mc_mikeehbwoi> in case the filesystem youre copying to is not write-protected/mounted as read only
[20:44] <escott> OerHeks, 64bit wubi is supported
[20:44] <meph15t0> escott: unfortunately i changed switched again so im talking here- lol
[20:44] <gcctser> hi
[20:44] <escott> meph15t0, things to check are the boot log messages which can be viewed by hitting up. if the graphics just arent correct try !nomodeset
[20:45] <mc_mikeehbwoi> K lol rejoining as a non-root user =P
[20:45] <meph15t0> escott: nomodeset? where to change that?
[20:45] <gcctser> guys i use these 2 rules: iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m state --state NEW -m recent --set iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 2 --hitcount 4 -j DROP , to limit connections per ip , how should i modify these rules to set a global connection limit (not per ip but total)...?
[20:46] <escott> meph15t0, since you have an installed system you could either edit your grub boot parameters or boot a livecd and chroot in
[20:46] <escott> !nomodeset | meph15t0
[20:47] <meph15t0> very good friends letme work out. escott ubottu
[20:50] <Vinto> Hi for some reason synaptic and gparted are not asking me for my password ...is there a way to change this?
[20:53] <fasta> How do I run Ubuntu without vesafb?
[20:53] <fasta> I just want to have the bios driver for my vttys, and that's it.
[20:53] <cordoval> Bus 002 Device 044: ID 046d:c03d Logitech, Inc. M-BT96a Pilot Optical Mouse
[20:53] <cordoval> Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
[20:53] <cordoval> Device Descriptor:   bLength                18  1  bDescriptorType        getting this on my mouse
[20:53] <cordoval> it goes and comes back what is wrong with ubuntu?
[20:53] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <Cottus> fasta you can blacklist it
[20:54] <BlueChaos> fasta, thx for help man
[20:54] <fasta> Cottus: I did, and it ... ignored it.
[20:54] <fasta> Cottus: how can I see whether it's part of initrd or not?
[20:55] <fasta> Cottus: lsmod lists it, so I thought it was a module.
[20:55] <fasta> Cottus: I have blacklist vesafb in /etc/modprobe.d/whatever.conf
[20:55] <Cottus> i don't know
[20:55] <fasta> Cottus: if you don't know, why do you answer?
[20:55] <Cottus> i answered about the blacklisting
[20:56] <lovegame> i cant watch YouTube , firebug show "HTTP "Content-Type" of "video/mp4""
[20:56] <fasta> Cottus: it's not an answer if it is the wrong answer.
[20:56] <Cottus> your'e being angry does not make it a wrong answer
[20:56] <mc_mikeehbwoi> now im not root! =PPPP
[20:57] <mc_mikeehbwoi> was hard to do that make 'screen' work
[20:57] <lovegame> i cant watch YouTube , firebug show "HTTP "Content-Type" of "video/mp4"" --  what i remember i try install posfix and configuration it next i remove it .. !!! any idea ?
[20:57] <lovegame> complete firebug message => HTTP "Content-Type" of "video/mp4" is not supported. Load of media resource http://o-o.preferred.ams04s07.v14.lscache6.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?upn=d7LwYUf-WuM&sparams=cp%2Cid%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Cratebypass%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&fexp=911628%2C907217%2C907335%2C921602%2C919306%2C919316%2C912804%2C913542%2C919324%2C912706&ms=au&itag=43&ip=<IP_ADDRESS>&signature=6C3DB98C29E60266F6267A3792B42FB865FD64C4.AFB09A30CB58A844867F6AE
[20:57] <lovegame> BF73C33702E4E37F2&sver=3&mt=1338929112&ratebypass=yes&source=youtube&expire=1338950796&key=yt1&ipbits=8&cp=U0hSTVlQTl9OUENOMl9RSlJIOnpyX3dyUldRYTVl&id=4626f1cebe4bcc68 failed.
[20:57] <lovegame> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ribxzr5LzGg&feature=g-logo-xit
[20:57] <lovegame> Line 0
[20:57] <FloodBot1> lovegame: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <fasta> Cottus: it is, by definition, the wrong answer.
[20:58] <fasta> Cottus: I am not angry. Just pointing out an inconvenient truth.
[21:00] <escott> lovegame, what does youtube.com/html5 say regarding codec support
[21:02] <lovegame> escott,  Video tag,  h.264 , WebM , You are currently in the HTML5 trial. << that what you mean ?
[21:02] <fasta> Cottus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/87158
[21:02] <escott> lovegame, yes
[21:02] <fasta> Cottus: it only exists for what? 5 years!
[21:02] <sirriffsalot> Anyone here know how I can change the way my mixer gadget in E17 (enlightenment) looks?:)
[21:02] <fasta> Does anyone ever fix a bug in this broken Linux?
[21:03] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows how to set higher priority for graphics to a game running under wine?
[21:03] <lovegame> escott, well i was sure youtube was working since i watched some how to configuration  postfix but i dont know what i changed make it not work :(
[21:03] <lovegame> escott, maybe hostname or hosts or something else !
[21:04] <fasta> Can anyone tell me how I can get a _working_ kernel without vesafb?
[21:04] <escott> lovegame, what does the page say?
[21:04] <cordoval> someone on problems with mouse on ubuntu?
[21:04] <fasta> You know one that actually follows instructions?
[21:05] <lovegame> escott,  what you mean by what it say ? what i should look for ?
[21:05] <gueriLLaPunK> what program can i use to check my hdds to see if its failing? ubuntu server 9.10
[21:05] <auronandace> gueriLLaPunK: 9.10 is no longer supported
[21:05] <lovegame> escott,  all check correct ==> Video tag,  h.264 , WebM , You are currently in the HTML5 trial
[21:06] <escott> lovegame, thats what i wanted to know. you didnt say if they were enabled or not
[21:06] <gueriLLaPunK> ok, but im sure there are some cmds i can use to check my disk, auronandace?
[21:06] <lovegame> escott,  all check correct ==> Video tag , WebM , You are currently in the HTML5 trial  <<<  h.264 not checked in F.F.
[21:06] <lovegame> escott, h.264 checked in chrome
[21:07] <gkaklas> cordoval: just ask your question :)
[21:07] <cordoval> gkaklas:  i did
[21:07] <japro> hmm, there is libllvm3.0 but no -dev
[21:07] <cordoval> mouse is not working, Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse on ubuntu 12.04
[21:08] <gueriLLaPunK> what apt-get program can i use to check my hdds to see if its failing?
[21:08] <cordoval> it works sometimes and then get disabled automatically, lsusb still list it but it does not lit up or work, also dmesg does not do anything
[21:09] <japro> gueriLLaPunK, usually there is already a "disk utility" installed that can run the self tests etc
[21:09] <gueriLLaPunK> sweet
[21:09] <auronandace> gueriLLaPunK: if you are using 9.10 then apt-get likely won't work since 9.10 is no longer supported (the repos might not exist anymore)
[21:09] <CrazyGangster> lovegame: try install this if u have problems with playing flash https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[21:10] <CrazyGangster> hello ppl, any1 knows how to set higher priority for graphics to a game running under wine?
[21:10] <gueriLLaPunK> well, isnt there one built in that i can use? where can i find information on disk utility CLI
[21:10] <lovegame> CrazyGangster, i will
[21:10] <cordoval> see noone is able to help :'(
[21:10] <cordoval> now mouse is back working but it will do it again
[21:11] <fasta> How can I nuke plymouth?
[21:13] <escott> gueriLLaPunK, smartctl
[21:13] <LanceLionroar> guys i need help
[21:13] <escott> fasta, dont try
[21:14] <BlueChaos> fasta
[21:14] <LanceLionroar> ??
[21:14] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks escott!
[21:14] <escott> fasta, or at least dont do anything like apt-get remove
[21:14] <BlueChaos> can u tell me one software for unbuntu to config much faster documents txt
[21:14] <gueriLLaPunK> crap
[21:15] <escott> !info smartmon-tools | gueriLLaPunK
[21:15] <lovegame> what the command to enter MX/A and change nameserver ?
[21:15] <gueriLLaPunK> -bash: smartctl: command not found
[21:15] <escott> gueriLLaPunK, sorry without the hyphen smartmontools
[21:15] <lovegame> i mean what the command to make dns !
[21:15] <gueriLLaPunK> installing it now, escott
[21:16] <ojitos> oye quien
[21:16] <auronandace> escott: gueriLLaPunK is on 9.10, i already told him it is no longer supported
[21:16] <ojitos> de aqui es español
[21:16] <auronandace> !es | ojitos
[21:16] <fasta> escott: fglrx + vesafb is known to not work, so why does Ubuntu make it hard to get rid of vesafb?
[21:16] <fasta> escott: that's just retarded.
[21:17] <LanceLionroar> guys??
[21:17] <escott> !help | LanceLionroar
[21:17] <ojitos> hola
[21:17] <auronandace> LanceLionroar: if you need help then you should tell us the problem
[21:17] <ojitos> me llamo daniel
[21:17] <ojitos> y digo cosas
[21:18] <ojitos> en español
[21:18] <auronandace> ojitos: /join #ubuntu-es
[21:18] <ojitos> puedo hablar en español?
[21:19] <LanceLionroar> 2 problems
[21:19] <RulerOf> I couldn't quite find the url to browse the git archives, but I'm trying to rebuild the 11.10 kernel with 1000hz timing for voip... is the correct URL  git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git?
[21:19] <LanceLionroar> on my galaxy fit s5670 the auto rotation doesnt feel like its working correctly
[21:20] <LanceLionroar> it easily goes horrizontally when i switch it that way, but when I want it vertically again it's not working
[21:21] <escott> !ot | LanceLionroar android is not ubuntu
[21:23] <ShinyObjects> Hey all - what's your favorite desktop widget set? I know a while back there were a few alternatives but the only one I remember right now is gdesklets
[21:23] <afon33> hello
[21:23] <auronandace> !poll | ShinyObjects
[21:23] <afon33> is this the channel where I can place a question about ubuntu?
[21:24] <ShinyObjects> auronandace: I wasn't asking what the "best" was :) I'm just asking what my options are. I'll test them out from there
[21:24] <aeon-ltd> afon33: yes if it's support related
[21:24] <auronandace> afon33: support related yes
[21:24] <afon33> it is
[21:25] <auronandace> ShinyObjects: you asked for favourites, we don't do polls in this channel
[21:25] <CrazyGangster> agree
[21:25] <afon33> I have ubuntu 10.10 in my laptop. it ran ok, but it started to suffer from slow boot a few days ago. it has improved but now it goes really slow when I open firefox (it didn't use to go that slow). any comments?
[21:25] <auronandace> !10.10 | afon33
[21:25] <afon33> i know,
[21:26] <auronandace> afon33: you need to use a supported release
[21:26] <afon33> but maybe it was just a matter of changing a small configuration detail
[21:26] <afon33> imagine that happens with a supported release. what would you say?
[21:27] <Cottus> try and see what uses cpu/ram with top
[21:27] <cypher-neo> afon33, But it DIDN'T happen with a supported release.
[21:27] <afon33> ...   :(
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> afon33: well, let's just start with the obvious, what changed between then and now?
[21:28] <AlanBell> cypher-neo: afon33: clearly we don't slow down boot times and firefox times when things go EOL though
[21:28] <cypher-neo> AlanBell, True...
[21:28] <AlanBell> however upgrading to a supported release would still be a good course of action
[21:29] <afon33> the day before the first "slow boot" i switched off the computer suddenly, without letting it kill all the tasks
[21:29] <ShinyObjects> Hey everybody, what is a completely opinion-free list of desktop widget sets that I could look into?
[21:29] <ShinyObjects> Better?
[21:29] <aeon-ltd> afon33: ok, continue
[21:29] <AlanBell> afon33: you could try a guest session or start firefox with a fresh profile in some other way
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> afon33: does this happen all the time?
[21:30] <afon33> well, maybe it ir related to the RAM, since the machine goes slow when I open firefox, but... I didn't install anything new
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> afon33: how much ram do you have?
[21:31] <afon33> 500 MB
[21:31] <auronandace> afon33: the longer you stay on an unsupported release the more problems are going to accumilate over time, why do you think there is an EOL policy?
[21:31] <aeon-ltd> afon33: have you changed a value known as swappiness?
[21:31] <afon33> i am afraid of installing a new version of ubuntu, because maybe this machine is too old
[21:31] <cm-t> hi, where can I have confirmation there are some trouble on website (trying register a series: Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. )    launchpad in my case ?
[21:31] <auronandace> !lubuntu | afon33
[21:31] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, What's the problem with the mouse?
[21:32] <djskidd> HELP ME I accidentally messed up my mon's computer while installing Ubuntu to a flash drive. It says error: device not found and a string of numbers. What do I do before my mom realizes I screwed up?
[21:32] <cordoval> it stops working
[21:32] <cordoval> sirriffsalot: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
[21:32] <fasta> Which framebuffer modules do I need to boot?
[21:32] <afon33> is it as easy to use?
[21:32] <rolandb> hey whats that alternate to pcmanfm that's lightweight? thuna?
[21:32] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, does it freeze?
[21:32] <cordoval> no
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> afon33: kinda, but if you want to dive into linux, you can change EVERYTHING.
[21:32] <cordoval> it stops, lights go off
[21:32] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, oh
[21:32] <afon33> hold on, please, i'll be back in a few minutes
[21:33] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, you sure it has something to do with linux?
[21:33] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, have you tried it on another computer?
[21:33] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, or operating system?
[21:33] <djskidd> Her hard drives are safe, but I can't get GRUB to come up with the operating systems
[21:33] <cordoval> the only way i can get it back is if i unplug it, wait for 4 minutes or so, then plug it back and hope it works, all the while it shows on lsusb ubuntu 12.04 latest
[21:33] <aeon-ltd> rolandb: thunar's pretty light, but it drags in more packages than pcmanfm does
[21:34] <cordoval> sirriffsalot: it is something with ubuntu
[21:34] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, ok. how recent is this?
[21:34] <cordoval> because it works but it stops working
[21:34] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, yeah, just checking:) did you install anything or make any changes and then it started happening?
[21:34] <cordoval> no, just ubuntu 12.04
[21:34] <fasta> Which framebuffer modules do I need to boot?
[21:35] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, when it happens, do "dmesg" in terminal and see if you find anything mouse-related
[21:35] <cordoval> i have done it many times sirriffsalot
[21:35] <Android75> I am having some real problems with getting unity 3d to work
[21:35] <cordoval> but then what to do
[21:35] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, how am I to know?:D Have you reinstalled?:P
[21:35] <cordoval> when connected even if not working it always lists the device
[21:35] <cordoval> reinstalled what sirriffsalot
[21:35] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, ubuntu 12.04
[21:36] <gkaklas> djskidd: so if grub does work, what is the problem?
[21:36] <cordoval> oh no
[21:36] <rolandb> aeon-ltd, "drags in more packages"?? i like pcmanfm but its way too buggy
[21:36] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, well to save some time, try to run a 12.04 ubuntu with a livecd
[21:36] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, see if the same thing happens
[21:36] <djskidd> It says "Error: Device not found<PHONE_NUMBER>59-298370897" (not exact numbers
[21:36] <djskidd> I have to reinstall GRUB, how do I do that?
[21:37] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, if not, I suggest you reinstall ubuntu since it seems you've done a lot of research on this already without luck
[21:37] <Jon--atwork> djskidd, What version of Ubuntu?
[21:37] <AlanBell> djskidd: what do you think was on the computer before you started?
[21:37] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, gonna do a reboot
[21:37] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Does your mom's computer only have Windows?
[21:38] <Android75> whenever I go into ubuntu 3d, unity just crashed and my desktop is unresponsive
[21:38] <aeon-ltd> rolandb: if you're using xubuntu or xfce already i'd just use thunar. though really you could just get used to cp/mv/rm; i feel that gui managers are only beneficial because of drag and drop and opening files easier
[21:38] <tpw_rules> hello. i'm trying to set up a VPN so i can access my home network devices from abroad. can anybody point me to a tutorial?
[21:38] <tpw_rules> i'm not tremendously experienced with vpn
[21:39] <guest2> !clone
[21:39] <guest2> aww man, I already did it wrong
[21:39] <djskidd> Does the version matter? From past experience, I have to reinstall GRUB by booting from the install disk (which I have done). I'm at the desktop off the disc. What package do I have to install?
[21:39] <Jon--atwork> guest2, did you use dpkg instead?
[21:40] <guest2> Nah I did this other thing online
[21:40] <guest2> sudo dpkg --get-selections | sed "s/.*deinstall//" | sed "s/install$//g" > ~/pkglist
[21:40] <Jon--atwork> djskidd, Let's make sure you actually need to reinstall GRUB. What was on your mom's computer before it stopped working? Windows, Windows + Ubuntu?
[21:40] <sirriffsalot> cordoval, any luck?:P
[21:40] <guest2> so now I'll have to get to the other computer
[21:40] <guest2> and do it again with this one
[21:41] <Jon--atwork> guest2, You shouldn't have to, hold on.
[21:41] <rodhash> Hello guys... I'm working on a issue with Ubuntu installation...
[21:41] <rodhash> After it was installed and restarted the graphical was terribly bad, then I changed GRUB to boot in text mode, the problem persisted and even on text mode it was hard to type read...
[21:41] <djskidd> Windows and a broken Ubuntu install, but I could still boot to Windows.
[21:41] <rodhash> I found one error message on dmesg saying "no AGP bridge found" and then I started investigating the video adapter
[21:41] <rodhash> However there's another issue, the system hostname is "localhost" and not the name I gave during the installation
[21:41] <rodhash> So, is this some video issue or OS installation issue? Any idea?
[21:41] <hdw632> why can i not download wubi?
[21:42] <LordOfTime> hdw632:  its a bug.  releases.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <LordOfTime> hdw632:  start from that site, choose the release you want, download the wubi installer directly
[21:42] <guest2> woobie
[21:42] <hdw632> k thanks
[21:43] <hdw632> wait, where is wubi at on that page?
[21:43] <guest2> lol things keep breaking on me for some reason. apport comes up like every hour or so
[21:43] <LordOfTime> hdw632:  choose the release "Precise Pangolin"
[21:43] <LordOfTime> and then wubi.exe i think is all you'll need
[21:43] <Jon--atwork> guest2, If you have easy access to the other machine, then do what clone suggests.
[21:43] <guest2> yeah it's more or less accessible, just annoying because the screen doesn't work lol
[21:43] <Jon--atwork> guest2, the only diff in what you did is that it contains automatically installed packages too
[21:43] <hdw632> thanks
[21:43] <guest2> ah ok
[21:44] <guest2> yeah that would be annoying to feed into aptitude
[21:44] <Jon--atwork> I've used dpkg to do this before without issue.
[21:44] <guest2> or I dunno, I guess it wouldn't matter if they were already installed
[21:44] <Jon--atwork> It will flag it as manually installed
[21:44] <guest2> Will it make a difference
[21:45] <gkaklas> djskidd: what exactly did you do before you got the problem and what are you trying to do?
[21:45] <Jon--atwork> Well, it will also include packages for drivers and things
[21:46] <djskidd> Before I got the problem, I was installing Ubuntu Precise to a flash drive to use at school. Now, I have to reinstall GRUB so that my mom can boot into Windows or so I can fix a broken Ubuntu install or so I can use the new flash drive.
[21:46] <Jon--atwork> guest2, To be safe, I would do what clone suggests, but in 99% of cases, dpkg --get-selections -> install on new sys is fine.
[21:46] <guest2> It's a shame Oneiric wasn't the LTS. I like ocelots
[21:47] <guest2> They're like cats only better.
[21:47] <farkerhaiku> Hi, simple question and google's being annoying. how do you force a user's session to end after x minutes of idleness?  TMOUT in the bashrc doesn't work (wrong thing)
[21:47] <guest2> Is there a way to get screensavers working in gnome 3? I installed xscreensaver, but it doesn't run, even if I remove gnome-screensaver
[21:49] <Guest49848> Hi.  I am trying to install ubuntu desktop 12.04 64bit on a dell t3500 with two 1tb drives configured in raid1 (mirror).  The raid array is partitioned into a 20mb ext4 boot disk, a 12gb swap, and then the rest as an ext4 root partition.  When I attempt to boot I get a kernel panic. "VFS: unable to mount root fs"
[21:49] <fasta> Do the Ubuntu developers have a problem with shell scripting or what?
[21:50] <fasta> Why do I see pages of instructions that can be automated in 30 minutes or so?
[21:50] <jrib> fasta: be more specific...
[21:50] <fasta> I only want to build a custom kernel; I am not asking for miracles here.
[21:50] <gkaklas> djskidd: from the live distro run "update-grub" or "update-grub2". This will let grub know which operating systems you have on the machine. Before you do it unplug your flash drive (except you booted from it)
[21:50] <jrib> !kernel | fasta
[21:50] <fasta> I have to follow the 12 steps program.
[21:50] <Cottus> djskidd, i thinks live cd> make a 50MB partition for grub > grub-setup --directory=/media/new-partition/boot/ > grub-install --boot-directory=/media/new-partition/boot/ /dev/sd? <--device-name(a,b,c)( find it with 'df')
[21:50] <djskidd> No, I'm booting from a disc
[21:51] <fasta> jrib: the bug has been open for 5 years already.
[21:51] <hdw632> i am using wubi and its downloading the amd version on the os, but i have an intel processer
[21:51] <hdw632> of the os
[21:51] <fasta> jrib: do you really think some magic developer is going to fix it, unless I fix it myself?
[21:51] <jrib> fasta: what bug? I have no clue what you are talking about.  You asked about building a custom kernel, so I sent you instructions to do it
[21:51] <guest2> amd64 is just the name for the 64-bit architecture
[21:51] <hdw632> ok
[21:51] <guest2> Because AMD beat Intel to the punch
[21:51] <guest2> lol
[21:51] <fasta> jrib: those instructions should be in a script.
[21:52] <fasta> jrib: it's completely redundant for me to copy-paste 12 steps.
[21:52] <Guest49848> guest2: and the version intel wrote on their own was impossible to write a good compiler for
[21:52] <guest2> oh that EM64T thing?
[21:52] <jrib> fasta: umm, you get the source and build the kernel.  Pretty sure it's 2 or 3 commands
[21:52] <fasta> jrib: and as for the bug: it's the bug that I cannot boot with vesafb.
[21:52] <fasta> jrib: your 'pretty sure' is completely wrong.
[21:52] <NeedHelpPlz> hi all, im trying to use fsck to see if my hdds are failing, but i dont know how to use it. these instructions are confusing :\ http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[21:52] <NeedHelpPlz> the disks are in RAID 0 and im not currently booted into the hdds, using a network boot and ssh
[21:52] <fasta> jrib: please don't talk about things you don't know about.
[21:52] <NeedHelpPlz> anytime i try to run fsck all i get is this "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 "
[21:53] <fasta> What is it with people that want to talk?
[21:53] <guest2> fasta: please don't be a jerk :P
[21:53] <Ca11umD> I am trying to connect via SSH to a LAN machine, but using both the computer name and IP don't work...
[21:53] <jrib> fasta: look.  You have the instructions.  If you would prefer a script, then copy and paste the commands there.  Please stay on the topic of support
[21:53] <fasta> guest2: they are just screaming for me to be one.
[21:53] <farkerhaiku> Hi, simple Precise question and google's being annoying. how do you force a user's session to end after x minutes of idleness?
[21:53] <guest2> fasta: do you do everything for which people scream at you to do?
[21:54] <guest2> :D
[21:54] <Ca11umD> ssh: Could not resolve hostname Laptop-1: Name or service not known
[21:54] <fasta> jrib: the point is that those 'instructions' suggest that whoever wrote it cannot do shell scripting.
[21:54] <jrib> fasta: not at all
[21:54] <Ca11umD> And using the IP returns "Connection refused"
[21:54] <fasta> jrib: yes, it does.
[21:54] <guest2> Ca11umD did you install openssh-server yet?
[21:54] <NeedHelpPlz> connection refused = port not open, Ca11umD
[21:54] <fasta> jrib: writing a shell script is faster than writing the human readable text too.
[21:54] <NeedHelpPlz> make sure your router has that port open
[21:54] <jrib> fasta: alright, I agree that to you they suggest that.  Can we move on?
[21:55] <^Mike> I had previously set the min/max/close buttons on my windows to be on the right - but now it makes more sense to have them on the left. How can I change that?
[21:55] <Ca11umD> Is there no simple SSH system inbuilt into Ubuntu?
[21:55] <Ca11umD> I just want to execute commands via LAN
[21:55] <jrib> !ssh | Ca11umD
[21:55] <guest2> Not on a default system, I don't think
[21:55] <zhanger> @ ^Mike gconf-editor
[21:55] <fasta> jrib: well, it would be nice to know who wrote the instructions; i.e. some random users from the IntarWebz or a Canonical employee.
[21:55] <guest2> You have to install openssh-server package
[21:55] <jrib> fasta: the community
[21:55] <NeedHelpPlz> !fsck
[21:55] <fasta> jrib: what kind of communistic answer is that?
[21:56] <stephenh> Ca11umD: just type 'ssh host' ?
[21:56] <fasta> jrib: are you sure it wasn't the collective?
[21:56] <zhanger> go to /apps/metacity/general and edit the button_layout property, ^Mike
[21:56] <fasta> jrib: or the hive-mind?
[21:56] <jrib> fasta: again, please stick to support
[21:56] <NeedHelpPlz> i just need to check to see if my hdd is failing. will fsck do that?
[21:56] <Guest49848> Hi.  As I said.  I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04, but at boot I get a kernel panic "VFS: Unable to mount root fs"
[21:56] <fasta> jrib: I am trying to get some support here, but nobody seems to be above my skill level.
[21:56] <zhanger> you probably want the colon on the right side of the buttons so it's on the left
[21:57] <jrib> fasta: I may have missed your question.  Can you ask it (on a single line; with relevant details)?
[21:57] <stephenh> fasta: what's the question?
[21:57] <guest2> NeedHelpPlz: Disk Utility will tell you if there are SMART errors if you want a quick answer. fsck, I think, will do a longer, better check.
[21:57] <fasta> jrib: how do I get a working system with the fglrx driver which involves not using the vesafb driver according to the people in #ati?
[21:57] <NeedHelpPlz> im trying to run fsck, but all i get is "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 "
[21:58] <NeedHelpPlz> i dont know what triggers i need to use to get it to check the whole disks
[21:58] <Ca11umD> Is there a better way than connecting to SSH and using zenity/notify-send for sending network messages?
[21:58] <NeedHelpPlz> guest2: ^^
[21:58] <fasta> jrib: blacklisting vesafb results in it being loaded anyway, because of plymouth.
[21:58] <NeedHelpPlz> guest2: i dont have smart errors, that i can see
[21:58] <fasta> stephenh: question can be read above.
[21:58] <stephenh> fasta: got it :)
[21:58] <guest2> Ah, you gotta feed fsck some options I think
[21:58] <stephenh> ubuntu 12?
[21:58] <fasta> jrib: I am currently compiling a kernel (which I would rather not do)
[21:58] <guest2> do a man fsck and check em out
[21:58] <fasta> stephenh: yes
[21:58] <jrib> fasta: I don't know anything about fglrx.  Have you checked the wiki (/msg ubottu fglrx)?
[21:58] <^Mike> zhanger: thanks
[21:59] <NeedHelpPlz> guest2: i know i need to trigger options, but i dont know which ones. i found the options here - http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[21:59] <fasta> stephenh: I think it's unfucking believable that Ubuntu displays a GUI to switch to a proprietary driver which then is known to be defective.
[21:59] <djskidd> what's the default password for user ubuntu on a live boot?
[21:59] <zhanger> i dont think there is
[21:59] <zhanger> o-o
[21:59] <guest2> it's blank
[21:59] <jrib> djskidd: why?
[21:59] <guest2> you can sudo without a password on livecd
[22:00] <djskidd> so I can run update-grub
[22:00] <guest2> well if i'm not mistaken anyway
[22:00] <stephenh> fasta: can't say i'm an ATI fan either tbh
[22:00] <Jordan_U> !language | fasta
[22:00] <stephenh> i'm guessing you've read the binarydriverhowto page?
[22:00] <fasta> stephenh: this is Ubuntu's fault alone.
[22:00] <fasta> stephenh: there is nobody to point at other than Ubuntu.
[22:00] <BlueChaos> fasta
[22:00] <guest2> lol
[22:00] <stephenh> fasta: i often see people trying to ask the same thing in fedora and they get shot down.
[22:00] <fasta> stephenh: you could point at me for making the mistake of installing Ubuntu, but that's it.
[22:01] <NeedHelpPlz> I need some help with fsck options. I dont know which ones I need to use. I've tried different combos and nothing is happening. http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[22:01] <modernbob> kde is really nice on 12.04
[22:01] <fasta> stephenh: so, perhaps they also have no skills.
[22:01] <stephenh> fasta: it's not a bad OS.  i don't use it on my laptop but used it for a while on my desktop before replacing it with fedora
[22:01] <BlueChaos> tell me one software easly to use but with shortcuts to use in terminal
[22:01] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz you're running it with sudo right
[22:01] <stephenh> have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[22:01] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: im logged in as root
[22:01] <BlueChaos> to config much queque documents and blablabla
[22:01] <stephenh> it seems straight forward enough
[22:01] <zhanger> what options are you specifying NeedHelpPlz
[22:01] <fasta> stephenh: yes, I did, and it's wrong.
[22:01] <djskidd> Precisely. "cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[22:01] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, fsck /dev/sda# where # is the partition number
[22:02] <fasta> stephenh: the instructions work, but you hit some known bug if you switch to a vtty.
[22:02] <NeedHelpPlz> ah, so i need to enter /dev/sda#
[22:02] <BlueChaos> fasta
[22:02] <drewbert2> hello
[22:02] <djskidd> I need to reinstall grub, and I need a package to do that. What is the package name?
[22:02] <BlueChaos> know ?
[22:02] <fasta> stephenh: because you cannot have vesafb and fglrx both managing the same video device.
[22:02] <zhanger> or you can do fsck -l to list all devices NeedHelpPlz
[22:02] <fasta> BlueChaos: yes....
[22:02] <djskidd> Like, service repair, something like that.
[22:02] <stephenh> ah ok, well i can't help with known bugs i'm afraid
[22:02] <BlueChaos> tell me if u know one
[22:02] <drewbert2> I am installing ubuntu 12.04 and I get kernel panic "VFS: unable to mount root fs"
[22:02] <fasta> BlueChaos: I cannot understand your English.
[22:02] <drewbert2> can someone help me fix this error?
[22:02] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, if there are problems it will ask what it should do. if you dont know the right answer fsck -a will say "yes" toeverything
[22:02] <BlueChaos> tell me one software easly to use but with shortcuts to use in terminal
[22:02] <stephenh> and hard to help with no ati card to replicate the issue
[22:02] <stephenh> sorry
[22:02] <BlueChaos> to config much queque documents and blablabla
[22:03] <djskidd> I remember the name someone, but the names I remember son't match
[22:03] <fasta> BlueChaos: there is no notion of shortcuts in Linux; there are symbolic and hardlinks.
[22:03] <jrib> !grub | djskidd
[22:03] <Jordan_U> djskidd: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[22:03] <NeedHelpPlz> fsck: fsck.linux_raid_member: not found fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.linux_raid_member for /dev/sda2
[22:03] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: ^^
[22:03] <BlueChaos> what i'am mean to say
[22:03] <BlueChaos> is
[22:03] <fasta> BlueChaos: there is the ln command for that: man ln for documentation.
[22:03] <drewbert2> I am so lost.
[22:03] <fasta> stephenh: it has nothing to do with known bugs.
[22:04] <BlueChaos> another ways to config currently (nano/pico) blablabla I need another one more easly
[22:04] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: fsck -l did not return anything
[22:04] <djskidd> Thanks, ubottu!
[22:04] <BlueChaos> with shorcuts to move better
[22:04] <stephenh> fasta: you just said it's a known issue?
[22:04] <jrib> BlueChaos: what are you editing exactly?
[22:04] <fasta> stephenh: I really would like to know why Ubuntu creates a broken experience out of the box.
[22:04] <Jordan_U> djskidd: Follow the link I gave you, there are many other guides which are completely wrong.
[22:04] <BlueChaos> eggdrop/psybnc/emech
[22:04] <stephenh> fasta: ah!
[22:04] <fasta> stephenh: well, perhaps not for Ubuntu developers.
[22:04] <BlueChaos> arhives
[22:04] <djskidd> I just used what ubottu gave me
[22:04] <fasta> stephenh: it is a known issue in the amd bugtracker.
[22:04] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, if you have raid you need to fsck /dev/md#
[22:05] <fasta> stephenh: and the other issue has been known for 5 years already.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> djskidd: No, it's wrong too unfortunately.
[22:05] <jrib> BlueChaos: and your issue is that you want an editor that can let you edit faster?  Tried vim or emacs?
[22:05] <fasta> stephenh: the one involving blacklisting vesafb.
[22:05] <BlueChaos> yes that i'am want jrib
[22:05] <fasta> stephenh: i.e. you blacklist vesafb, but ... it's not actually blacklisted.
[22:05] <jrib> BlueChaos: do you already know how to use one of vim or emacs?
[22:05] <zhanger> oh, i'm so sorry NeedHelpPlz i was thinking fdisk -l :(
[22:05] <fasta> stephenh: I mean, really, who makes up that stuff? It's so bad, it takes on epic proportions.
[22:05] <BlueChaos> no but .i'am will learn
[22:05] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: i did md1 and it checked it, but i need a more through check like chkdsk, to check for hdd errors
[22:06] <djskidd> Ubottu: Don't listen to Jordan_U, I know inside that was right.
[22:06] <djskidd> Aww.
[22:06] <jrib> BlueChaos: install a full version of vim and run vimtutor.  That's a great intro to vim
[22:06] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, install smartmontools and use smartctl to check the smart status
[22:06] <fasta> BlueChaos: no, install Emacs ;)
[22:06] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz you can use e2fsck -c to check for bad blocks on the device
[22:06] <Jordan_U> fasta: Please stop editorializing and stick to productive support discussion.
[22:07] <BlueChaos> what to install guys emcs or vim ?
[22:07] <BlueChaos> what is better ?
[22:07] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: i have two other paritions? sda1 and sdb2. SMART logs are ok. i cant install smartmontools since im using a network boot
[22:07] <jrib> BlueChaos: try both
[22:07] <drewbert2> I am installing ubuntu 12.04 and I get kernel panic "VFS: unable to mount root fs"
[22:07] <drewbert2> can someone help me fix this error?
[22:07] <guest2> BlueChaos I hate both haha
[22:07] <fasta> Jordan_U: I told everything there is to be said. I am just still finding ignorant people.
[22:07] <BlueChaos> guest2
[22:07] <BlueChaos> what u use ?
[22:07] <guest2> nano hahaha
[22:07] <fasta> Jordan_U: all kinds of people which seem to offer coucelling, instead of technical support.
[22:08] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: i tried that command, but it seems to be missing another option
[22:08] <Jordan_U> fasta: If you can't stop editorializing then please leave. For that matter if you don't want to use Ubuntu, don't. The editorializing is just wasting everyone's time.
[22:08] <zhanger> you need the name of the device
[22:08] <fasta> Jordan_U: is editorializing even a word?
[22:08] <zhanger> like e2fsck -c /dev/sda2 or w/e
[22:09] <fasta> Jordan_U: you provided 100% metacomments, btw.
[22:09] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: thanks
[22:09] <fasta> Jordan_U: everything you said could be created by a machine.
[22:09] <BlueChaos> This is it ??
[22:09] <BlueChaos> * Dice-Man has quit (Quit: Lost termin?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> fasta: This is your last warning. Please stick to productive support discussion.
[22:09] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[22:09] <BlueChaos> lol
[22:09] <NeedHelpPlz> poop
[22:09] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz make sure the device is unmounted
[22:09] <Ca11umD> "You need to install the Windows networks sharing service in order to share your folders." - how to acomplish this?
[22:09] <BlueChaos> This is it Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor?
[22:09] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz what're you trying to scan, your current root partition?
[22:10] <jrib> BlueChaos: that's vim, yes
[22:10] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: no, im not using that partition. im on a network boot
[22:10] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: so it cant be mounted, right?
[22:10] <guest2> Ca11umD probably samba. What are you trying to do? Share files from an Ubuntu system to Windows boxes?
[22:10] <zhanger> hm
[22:10] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz run "mount"
[22:10] <Ca11umD> No, share folders between Ubuntu machines
[22:10] <jrib> BlueChaos: if you install the "vim-gnome" package, you'll get a full version of vim including gvim
[22:10] <zhanger> does it state the partition you are trying to check is mounted
[22:10] <Ca11umD> I have a spare box to host shares on too
[22:11] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: http://pastie.org/4034385
[22:11] <NeedHelpPlz> i think its opened by another program, gonna soft reboot...one sec
[22:11] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: *^^
[22:11] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz ok
[22:11] <djskidd> Okay, boot-repair will do what I needed it to do.
[22:11] <Ca11umD> And how can I enable host-resolution? I can't use Laptop-1 but I can use <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:11] <Ca11umD> If I use the computer name, it just says it cannot be found
[22:12] <guest2> Need a DNS server, like bind or dnsmasq or something.
[22:12] <stephenh> echo '<IP_ADDRESS> Laptop-1' >> /etc/hosts
[22:12] <escott> Ca11umD, run a DNS server on your router or add the entries to /etc/hosts
[22:12] <Ca11umD> How come Windows doesn't have this problem?
[22:13] <escott> Ca11umD, there is a difference between smb://computername/ and things like http://computername the first might work where the second doesnt
[22:13] <Ca11umD> I don't think my NETGEAR WNR2200 has a DNS service
[22:14] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: same thing :\
[22:14] <NeedHelpPlz> grr
[22:14] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz try just running e2fsck -f /dev/sda1
[22:14] <NeedHelpPlz> k
[22:14] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[22:14] <zhanger> lol
[22:15] <ska> I just installed 12.04 amd64 on a AMD a6-llano chip. I'm only seeing 3.5gb of 4gb of memory though.
[22:15] <ska> Does it use that much for Video?
[22:15] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz try running umount /dev/sda1
[22:15] <escott> ska, kernel
[22:15] <NeedHelpPlz> k
[22:15] <guest2> Ca11umD Windows has an old protocol called NetBIOS that it uses to send loud broadcasts to find machines. The problem with that is that every computer has to stop and listen to that broadcast. DNS uses what's called Unicast, so it's more efficient, but you need a DNS server.
[22:15] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[22:16] <NeedHelpPlz> wow
[22:16] <zhanger> :(
[22:16] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, i thought you said you had raid. is sda1 part of the raid device?
[22:16] <Ca11umD> guest2, I can setup a spare box with Ubuntu, and install a DNS service...would it automatically add the entries or must I manually operate it?
[22:17] <escott> Ca11umD, you have to manually add the entries to the dns, and then set each computer to use that machine as a dns server
[22:17] <guest2> Ca11umD your router won't do it at all? I thought all the new routers used their DHCP client list as a makeshift DNS server
[22:17] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: i didnt build the filesystem... ill show u what it looks like... its weird, actually. http://i.imgur.com/EcctF.png
[22:18] <escott> Ca11umD, if your router supports tomato firmware it is very easy to setup
[22:18] <menturi> Hello. Why doesn't the splashscreen of libreoffice on ubuntu say "The Document Foundation"?
[22:18] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: i think its RAID1 for the OS and then RAID0 for the rest of the hdds
[22:18] <farkerhaiku> regarding my previous question about timeout, I ended up making a shell script that used the who -a command.  `who -a | grep $username | cut 45-46` gives you the idle time of $username and then with some shell scripting you can figure it out from there.  Posting my solution here in case this is archived.
[22:18] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, sda1 is part of the raid device. the mdadm drivers have an exclusive lock on the device file. you would have to break the raid to gain access to sda1
[22:19] <NeedHelpPlz> oh i see, escott
[22:19] <Jon--atwork> I have a much faster inet connection at the office than at home. I'd like to do do-release-upgrade fetching step without continuing on and actually upgrading the packages. Can this be done? I don't see a cli flag for it
[22:19] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: if its broken, can it be rebuilt without losing data?
[22:19] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, yes, but why would you want to access sda1?
[22:20] <NeedHelpPlz> i want to check the HDDs to see if they are failing
[22:20] <NeedHelpPlz> and i have no idea how to do so
[22:20] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, you dont need access to sda1 to do that. just look at the smart data
[22:21] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, and if you want something more than the smart data you might look at hdparm, but you have no good reason to break the raid. it will tell you nothing you cannot figure out otherwise
[22:21] <NeedHelpPlz> the smart data has not reported any errors. here is a log, escott -- http://pastie.org/4034438
[22:21] <ProGammer_> Hi
[22:21] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, ok sounds like the drives are good then. do you have some reason for believing otherwsie?
[22:21] <ProGammer_> i want to buy a new graphic card with CUDA support
[22:22] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: im having an issue saving some data to the hdds, which why i was thinking its the hdds
[22:22] <ProGammer_> and working nicely with ubuntu + compiz
[22:22] <guest2> What errors does it throw when you try to save data
[22:22] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, "an issue" can you be more specific
[22:22] <ProGammer_> any suggestion ?
[22:22] <guest2> ProGammer_ newegg > most expensive nvidia card lol
[22:22] <NeedHelpPlz> using WINE and uTorrent... im getting "error: file not found" when downloading
[22:23] <NeedHelpPlz> guest2, escott ^^
[22:23] <ProGammer_> hahahaha
[22:23] <xangua> NeedHelpPlz: there is utorrent for linux
[22:23] <paul_> Hello.
[22:23] <ProGammer_> no man i dont have that much money i want to pay 50-90$
[22:23] <guest2> NeedHelpPlz: I just use Transmission. The blocklist support is way quicker/easier/etc
[22:24] <escott> NeedHelpPlz, what is the path of this missing file?
[22:24] <paul_> I'm using ubuntu 12.4  everything is working fine, 'cept flash games.  On either chrome or ff.  any suggestions.
[22:24] <paul_> ?
[22:24] <NeedHelpPlz> you know what, i think its because the path is too long, lol

[22:24] <NeedHelpPlz> escott: ^^ i dont know off the top of my head, but i know its long
[22:24] <NeedHelpPlz> lol i cant believe i didnt think of that
[22:24] <xangua> paul_: flash sucks in linux in general, complain with adobe ;)
[22:25] <guest2> "flash sucks" <-- this
[22:25] <paul_> xanga  cool, but I don't think they will be much help1
[22:25] <guest2> I'm glad not every website in the world is making their entire site in flash anymore
[22:25] <zhanger> NeedHelpPlz max filename size is 255 bytes for ext4
[22:25] <kisuke> ok i jsut updates and now my bluetooth adapter is disabled how can i find out why?
[22:25] <guest2> Hey does anyone know when btrfs is going to be production read
[22:25] <guest2> y
[22:25] <NeedHelpPlz> zhanger: thank you, thats the problem, i think. gonna try it out and see if that fixes it
[22:25] <NeedHelpPlz> i was confusing element not found, which is a hdd error
[22:26] <escott> guest2, no
[22:26] <sirriffsalot> "Not all updates can be installed" window for hannes-janetzek PPA.. any ideas?
[22:26] <paul_> Why is Ubuntu getting less and less easy to customize?
[22:26] <guest2> aww. For the longest time I wanted to use zfs, but it was licensed all dumb, but then someone told me about btrfs
[22:26] <xangua> paul_: define less easy to customize
[22:27] <zhanger> paul_ well desktop environments are just evolving
[22:27] <sirriffsalot> paul_, I do agree that they swap things around just to swap things around, it does get annoying
[22:27] <guest2> I abhoar Unity. I've been using gnome3
[22:28] <minas> Hi. I want to send an image via bluetooth to my mobile device, but the "sender" option is "not visible". Please see the image to understand: http://i50.tinypic.com/m1wns.jpg
[22:28] <wabash> Where can I find source code and home pages for the open source gnome 2 panel applets?
[22:28] <paul_> I used to be able to right click on panel and change it's color, placement, ect.  same with dock...
[22:29] <ProGammer_> anyone here has GeForce GT 520 ?
[22:29] <NeedHelpPlz> i would like to thank escott, zhanger for helping me out. it was because the path was too long (doh!) at least it wasnt anything more serious :)
[22:29] <sirriffsalot> ProGammer_, I have nvidia crap too, yes, how can I help?:D
[22:29]  * GabrieleV is away: Away
[22:29] <Aleminio> what makes ubuntu such a popular linux distribution compared to other ones?
[22:29] <xangua> ubottu: tell GabrieleV about away
[22:29] <sirriffsalot> "Not all updates can be installed" window for hannes-janetzek PPA.. any ideas?:P
[22:29] <guest2> I always thought it was word of mouth haha
[22:29] <wabash> Aleminio: It used to be configurability and fun.
[22:30] <ProGammer_> sirriffsalot: im looking for nvidia card not that expensive around 50-90$
[22:30] <zhanger> np NeedHelpPlz, i didn't do much though :(
[22:30] <ProGammer_> something like that GT 520
[22:30] <sirriffsalot> Aleminio, closest and easiest to Windows yet open-source;D
[22:30] <gueriLLaPunK> you helped me learn some new commands, zhanger :)
[22:30] <Aleminio> but why the "used to be?"
[22:30] <sirriffsalot> ProGammer_, oh, can't help you there, haha. Google might:P
[22:30] <wabash> I would n't say it's close to windows much, but ease of use.
[22:30] <escott> Aleminio, targeted at desktop users, and easier to install proprietary software (skype, flash, video drivers, etc)
[22:30]  * gueriLLaPunK is NeedHelpPlz
[22:30] <sirriffsalot> wabash, cloSEST!;D
[22:30] <ProGammer_> sirriffsalot: not about the price
[22:30] <wabash> Aleminio: Because Unity is a very narrow specific paradigm, wherease it used to be that canonical supported many window manager options.
[22:31] <ProGammer_> does that official nvidia drivers works fine and support compiz + CUDA and ... ?
[22:31] <xangua> !ot | wabash Aleminio
[22:31] <ProGammer_> are they stable enough ?
[22:31] <escott> wabash, you can still install all those other window managers. nobody is stopping you
[22:31] <minas> Unity is new though (and I like it). I am sure it will be more customizable in future releases
[22:31] <wabash> escott: Used to be supported.
[22:32] <escott> wabash, and what exactly can you not install?
[22:32] <gueriLLaPunK> quick question again...is there a wait to update ubuntu without a fresh install?
[22:33] <wabash> escott: Well, it gets away from the "easiest to use" concept then. Sure, you could install *anything* if you wanted. But is it easy to use then?
[22:33] <xangua> !upgrade | gueriLLaPunK
[22:33] <paul_> could low memory be causing crash??
[22:33] <gueriLLaPunK> xangua, im on 9.10
[22:34] <xangua> !eol | gueriLLaPunK
[22:35] <diluted> i wonder how many quits there are here per day oO
[22:35] <wabash> log grep quit?
[22:35] <gueriLLaPunK> that answers it, xangua
[22:35] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks
[22:35] <zhanger> diluted you can check the logs :)
[22:35] <gueriLLaPunK> might as well do a fresh install...eventually
[22:35] <diluted> lol im new here
[22:36]  * diluted is now away, test (log\on pager\off)
[22:38]  * diluted is back after 2m 2s
[22:40] <diluted> i see services on here arent very accurate with their websites
[22:40] <diluted> Not Found
[22:40] <diluted> The requested URL /channel_guidelines.shtml) was not found on this server.
[22:40] <diluted> Apache Server at freenode.net Port 80
[22:41] <sirriffsalot> "Not all updates can be installed".. any ideas?:P
[22:42] <tafelpoot> hi yall, I have following proble: I use approx for a local apt proxy but since a few weeks I see errors about Package.lzma which can't be found...
[22:42] <tafelpoot> anyone an idea about what is going wrong on my proxy?
[22:43] <tafelpoot> this file can't be found on the master of my server
[22:45] <jagginess> tafelpoot, is approx an english word?
[22:45] <jagginess> "approx for a local apt proxy" << huh?
[22:46] <jagginess> I think you mean you want to setup a proxy setting for apt
[22:47] <kisuke> ok i jsut updates and now my bluetooth adapter is disabled how can i find out why?
[22:48] <beejeebus> hi, reading this http://iloveubuntu.net/new-keyboard-shortcuts-landed-precise-pangolin
[22:48] <beejeebus> Ctrl + Super + Down should minimize the current window?
[22:48] <beejeebus> when i try it, no dice
[22:49] <beejeebus> instead, it only semi-minimizes if the current window is fullscreen
[22:49] <Boohbah> jagginess: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=approx
[22:49] <beejeebus> any pointers?
[22:49] <Boohbah> jagginess: caching proxy server for Debian archive files
[22:52] <beejeebus>  huh, seems to be a known bug
[22:52] <tyler_d> I have a system I am trying to remote to and somehow either the profile or the bashrc have become corrupted, how do I bypass all system variables when logging in via bash?
[22:52] <tyler_d> ssh rather
[22:53] <beejeebus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/990723
[22:53] <beejeebus> sad panda, that's pretty basic keyboard functionality
[22:53] <sirriffsalot> "Not all updates can be installed".. trying to install some updates for Enlightenment any ideas?:P
[22:54] <afon33> hi, I'm back
[22:54] <beejeebus> samkottler: can you fix all the things for me?
[22:54] <Jon--atwork> Launched do-release-upgrade from CLI. Any way to get estimate of remaining time? I know GUI updater has one
[22:54] <afon33> One question: my laptop is about 5 years old. Is it advisable to install the latest version of ubuntu? Will it run smoothly?
[22:54] <samkottler> beejeebus: lol, how are you?
[22:55] <beejeebus> samkottler: ok. just hit this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/990723
[22:55] <OerHeks> afon33 test it in live mode
[22:55] <beejeebus> samkottler: how's it going with you?
[22:55] <afon33> ok
[22:55] <BlueChaos> jagginess,
[22:55] <afon33> is there any commor reason for a computer to start running from one day to another?
[22:55] <tafelpoot> jagginess: I am using approx... that is what I mean
[22:56] <afon33> *satrat running slowly*, sorry
[22:56] <samkottler> beejeebus: I just up voted it
[22:57] <tafelpoot> jagginess: I have an approx server which is a proxy (hmmm sounds ok ;-)) ... when it tries to get a package form a mirror... it tries to find Package.lzma but it does not find this package on the mirror (I have tried 2 seperate but correct ubuntu mirrors)
[22:58] <afon33> are 500 MB of ram enough for the latest version?
[22:58] <smw_> afon33, I would probably use xubuntu
[22:59] <tafelpoot> jagginess: http://bethesignal.org/blog/2009/04/13/approx-package-caching-ubuntu-debian-lovers/
[22:59] <afon33> what are the main limitations of xubuntu?
[23:01] <Jon--atwork> Launched do-release-upgrade from CLI. Any way to get estimate of remaining time? I know GUI updater has one
[23:01] <Jon--atwork> Might be stuck leaving my laptop at work tonight ^_^
[23:03] <Jon--atwork> Alternatively, can I sleep the laptop in the middle of an upgrade?
[23:03] <h00k> Jon--atwork: it's probably a bad idea
[23:04] <Jon--atwork> h00k, yeah, I'm thinking the same thing
[23:04] <Jon--atwork> I have no idea what the progress of this is though. Would be nice to have package x/y somewhere -_-
[23:05] <sheenams> i'm having issues running bwa in 12.04. can someone advise?
[23:12] <erratic> does anybody know anything about ubuntu, rsyslog/ommail module, and postfix
[23:12] <erratic> I cant get postfix to stfu talking to syslog
[23:12] <erratic> I cant get syslog to ignore postfix
[23:13] <erratic> but there's this! http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/
[23:13] <erratic> I think its a scam
[23:14] <Jordan_U> Jon--atwork: Have packages started installing or is it still in the downloading phase?
[23:15] <stef1a> why does my ubuntu 12.04 monitor auto-adjust the brightness when i switch between windows, and how can i stop this (i.e. keep a fixed brightness level)?
[23:15] <Jon--atwork> Jordan_U, They're installing, dling I'd just cancel ^_^
[23:16] <panigrc_> stef1a, it has to be your monitor not your ubuntu installation
[23:16] <erratic> THEY WONT TELL ME ANYTHING IN #RSYSLOG ITS OBVIOUSLY A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:16] <panigrc_> stef1a, your monitor has probably dynamic contrast
[23:17] <panigrc_> and adjusts the contrast based on the content
[23:17] <sheenams> i'm having issues with the bwa package in 12.04. anyone able to help?
[23:17] <diluted> whats best irc client for Kubuntu?
[23:17] <stef1a> how do i change it?
[23:18] <Jordan_U> !best | diluted
[23:18] <diluted> hah nice
[23:19] <stef1a> panigrc_: how do i change it?
[23:19] <panigrc_> open the monitor menu , look for physical buttons at the edges of your monitor
[23:19] <h00k> stef1a: Your actual Monitor is changing/adjusting it's modes?
[23:20] <stef1a> h00k: yes
[23:20] <stef1a> is it possible to change it through the bios?
[23:21] <h00k> stef1a: As far as I know, that's the actual monitor doing that, not Ubuntu or the like, I wonder if there's some hardware issue with your monitor or cable
[23:22] <stef1a> h00k: I doubt it's an issue. Also, I'm using a laptop, and there are no buttons on my keyboard that would indicate anything about dynamic contrast.
[23:22] <nimrod10_> anyone had any luck with usb2vga in 12.04 ?
[23:23] <h00k> stef1a: oh, interesting. I've never heard of that. Perhaps someone else has protips.  What kind of graphics card do you have?
[23:23] <stef1a> h00k: actually, i just pressed a button; it may have worked. I'll have to give it some time
[23:23] <panigrc_> stef1a, if you wait then the monitor will lower its brightness for power saving
[23:24] <panigrc_> this can be changed from power settings
[23:24] <stef1a> panigrc_: no. it does it while i'm using it, not while the comp is idle
[23:24] <panigrc_> oh
[23:25] <stef1a> it just happened
[23:25] <stef1a> it's so weird... it only happens some of the time
[23:25] <Nikth> Hello everyone
[23:25] <h00k> stef1a: what do you have for a grapics card in there?
[23:25] <panigrc_> hi
[23:25] <stef1a> h00k: how do i check?
[23:26] <h00k> stef1a: open a terminal, check the output of 'lspci -v | grep VGA' I think should help
[23:26] <Nikth> Is there an option for someone to change the informations from central page of Ubuntu.com about local communities ?
[23:27] <h00k> Nikth: you can report that to !launchpad
[23:27] <h00k> Nikth: are you familiar with bug reporting?
[23:28] <stef1a> Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 9648
[23:28] <Nikth> I already send an e-mail to webmaster@ubuntu , but i don't know if this is the right way
[23:28] <h00k> !bug | Nikth you can report it against this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content
[23:28] <h00k> !bug | Nikth
[23:28] <h00k> Nikth: against https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content here
[23:29] <Nikth> h00k: no i am not , but i know someone who is..
[23:29] <Nikth> ok. Thank you very much h00k :)
[23:29] <h00k> Nikth: that guide may help :)
[23:32] <h00k> stef1a: Do you have the AMD drivers installed for you card?
[23:33] <parabyte> is there a ppc channel
[23:33] <h00k> stef1a: you can check "Additional Drivers" out, or !amd
[23:33] <Teth> phased particle cannon building is a rare hobby
[23:33] <h00k> !amd | stef1a
[23:33] <h00k> er.
[23:33] <h00k> !ati | stef1a
[23:34] <stef1a> h00k: i believe i do
[23:34] <jfroebe> anyone remember how to create a virtual nic that I can assign a mac address to?  when I create the entries in /etc/network/interfaces, it is complaining about the device not existing.
[23:35] <jfroebe> I ask because I have old software that looks at the mac address of the nic
[23:35] <rhomboetric> hi!
[23:35] <rhomboetric> anyone here using pamusb authentication?
[23:35] <jagginess> jfroebe, i highly doubt that
[23:35] <h00k> rhomboetric: just go ahead and ask the actual question, if anyone can answer, they'll try
[23:35] <BarkingFish> Morning all.  Quick question - I'd like to try and run both the kubuntu and ubuntu desktops from my system - some of my programs (one at least I know made for Gnome) don't work properly in KDE.  If you've actually done this, how do I switch between the GDM and KDM when I start up?
[23:35] <jfroebe> jagginess - I did it about 4 years ago but didn't keep notes
[23:35] <rhomboetric> i did the setup using the ubuntu wiki article
[23:36] <rhomboetric> configured a stick + a user and tested it, which worked
[23:36] <rhomboetric> but somehow, using sudo, the right password is entered wrong
[23:36] <jagginess> jfroebe, so you know what the problem is, but not the application name.. very suspicious
[23:36] <rhomboetric> content of the /etc/pamusb.conf:
[23:36] <rhomboetric> auth	[success=1 default=ignore]	pam_usb.so use_first_pass
[23:36] <rhomboetric> and
[23:36] <rhomboetric> auth	requisite	pam_unix.so nullok_secure
[23:36] <FloodBot1> rhomboetric: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <rhomboetric> no, its just 2 lines
[23:37] <rhomboetric> no flooding ;)=
[23:37] <xangua> !paste | rhomboetric
[23:37] <BarkingFish> it wasn't 2 lines, it was 4 - posted too quickly for floodbot :)
[23:37] <jfroebe> jagginess - I'm talking about creating a virtual nic .. the old software is already installed and does work with 12.04
[23:37] <xangua> rhomboetric: yes you are, please don't do it again
[23:38] <jfroebe> using something like eth0:1 doesn't allow me to set a mac address
[23:38] <jagginess> jfroebe, so the software works except for virtual nics.. how do you know that software is not made for virtual nic/interfaces?
[23:38] <h00k> jfroebe: you can change your mac address with macchanger
[23:38] <h00k> !info macchanger | jfroebe
[23:38] <jagginess> uh
[23:38] <jfroebe> h00k - correct but it will change it on the physical nic
[23:39] <amelia_> Is there any easy way to roll back from an erorr-causing 12.04 install to 11.10? Or would I have to wipe the drive and put 11.10 on from scratch?
[23:39] <jagginess> h00k, more like a software configuration issue
[23:39] <BarkingFish> that's assuming your device allows you to change the mac address - some don't, especially USB wireless sticks
[23:39] <shubes> I'm attempting a dist upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 (mythbuntu), and am unable to reply to the whiptail prompts in the terminal window that some package configurations are showing (eg mysql-server, libc6). I was able to kill the whiptail process(es) to continue the upgrade, but there should be a simpler way. Anyone know anything about this?
[23:39] <jfroebe> the mac address is needed solely for verifying the license
[23:40] <escott> amelia_, downgrade is not supported
[23:40] <jfroebe> hope I'm making sense
[23:40] <jagginess> jfroebe, sounds like you're trying to run maya or something
[23:40] <jfroebe> close - Sybase :)
[23:41] <h00k> jfroebe: this may help, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/04/how-to-quickly-create-multiple-virtual-network-interfaces-in-ubuntu/
[23:42] <r0b_-> why is USB slow in ubuntu 12.04?
[23:42] <jfroebe> h00k - unfortunately that doesn't let me set the mac address
[23:42] <r0b_-> same flashdrive in windows gets 30MB/s read 10MB/s write
[23:42] <jfroebe> even with macchanger
[23:42] <r0b_-> in linux i get 10MB/s read 3MB/s write
[23:42] <jagginess> h00k, article too old.. networkmanager is probably is overtaking ifdownup scripts on his system
[23:43] <h00k> I tried, anyway
[23:43] <r0b_-> anyone?
[23:43] <escott> r0b_-, how is it formated
[23:43] <r0b_-> fat
[23:44]  * r0b_- has tried NTFS and EXT3/5
[23:44] <r0b_-> 3/4
[23:44] <jagginess> r0b_-, thats weird..
[23:44] <r0b_-> its a 2.0 drive
[23:44] <jagginess> r0b_-, make sure 'High speed' is selected for usb in the bios
[23:44] <r0b_-> Ubuntu 12.04
[23:44] <r0b_-> im not a retard :-)
[23:44] <jfroebe> ah ha!  I did keep notes..  head*desk though.  It was in a virtual machine.. created a host only device with that particular mac address
[23:44] <BarkingFish> we didn't say you were
[23:44] <h00k> r0b_-: please pick a different pejorative
[23:44] <jagginess> r0b_-, not saying you are ..
[23:45] <jfroebe> I guess I could use lxc to create a host only device ... hmm
[23:45] <jfroebe> probably a better way anyways to isolate
[23:45] <r0b_-> sorry h00k i have been fighting for hours
[23:46] <jagginess> h00k, you were helping a dude trying to make a virtual nic in a VM.  Seems there are quite a few entries in syslog and auth.log, some about x.org?
[23:47] <jagginess> time to upgrade your ubuntu
[23:48] <BarkingFish> amelia_: Could you paste up the contents of the syslog and auth.log on paste.ubuntu.com?
[23:48] <mr0wl> what's good PPA for the latest Firefox?
[23:48] <BarkingFish> It might give us some clues if we can see what errors are being generated
[23:49] <jagginess> amelia_, sounds like a problem with the video driver, you'll have to see if it says problems about KMS (mode setting) or something like it with nouveau.drm etc..
[23:49] <OerHeks> mr0wl, firefox stopped publishing tru PPA
[23:49] <BarkingFish> Speaking of pasting - do any of you here use Pastebinit?
[23:50] <amelia_> BarkingFish: not at this point, i'm afraid I don't have the machine to hand, it's one I maintain for mum. I've not been around when the error has come up, and nobody's been any help here when I have tried to ask - and I'm getting enough grief about it, I feel like rolling back to a fresh 11.10 install is the best bet - which is a shame, really
[23:50] <mr0wl> OerHeks: i recall some sort of initiative to include the latest releases, is that still valid?
[23:50] <xangua> mr0wl: no need for it, you should get the latest update if you mean firefox 13 in a couple of days
[23:50] <mr0wl> we just need to wait a bit?
[23:50] <jagginess> BarkingFish, pastebinit? the command?
[23:50] <BarkingFish> jagginess: yes
[23:50] <mr0wl> xangua: oh, okay the waiting game
[23:50] <mr0wl> thank you
[23:50] <xangua> mr0wl: the current version is still 12
[23:51] <BarkingFish> and amelia_ ok - no worries. If you could get the details of those logs, copy them to a usb pendrive or flashdrive, and upload them at your earliest convenience, we may be able to help.
[23:51] <jagginess> BarkingFish, sometimes, but I tend to use xclip
[23:51] <Guest2403> question: how could i install xfce on Kubuntu 5.04 powerpc?
[23:51] <BarkingFish> jagginess: I asked because it's not working properly for some people - I've spoken to several over the last few days for whom there's been an error message displayed
[23:51] <tugba_> if i accidently backed up my external hdd using dd command over my ntfs partition of my laptop hdd (laptop hdd has two partitions ext4 ubuntu and ntfs windows) and lost my windows system, is there a way to restore it back
[23:51] <xangua> Guest2403: using a supported version first
[23:52] <BarkingFish> it reads, "THIS API HAS BEEN DISABLED - Please use http://pastebin.com/api" or something similar
[23:52] <r0b_-> is there a way to see the transfer speed?
[23:52] <jagginess> BarkingFish, i remember once it didnt work for me, and a new release was available within a week or something... meanwhile i just use xclip
[23:52] <BarkingFish> It's not even working here
[23:53] <BarkingFish> and we don't have any updates yet, not that I've seen anyhow
[23:53] <jagginess> BarkingFish, you'll have to use the middlemouse button to paste on the webpage textbox.
[23:53] <tugba_> if i accidently backed up my external hdd using dd command over my ntfs partition of my laptop hdd (laptop hdd has two partitions ext4 ubuntu and ntfs windows) and lost my windows system, is there a way to restore it back
[23:53] <jagginess> BarkingFish, echo abc |xclip , (it's in the X's intrisic clipboard-- default is the middlemousebutton, not ctl-v)
[23:53] <escott> tugba_, restore it from your windows backup
[23:53] <BarkingFish> jagginess: I'm running CLI solo at the moment, due to my GUI being a right royal pain in the bottom
[23:54] <BarkingFish> so without pastebinit, or xclip, I'm reduced to trying to use paste.ubuntu.com in lynx, and that's not easy
[23:54] <jagginess> BarkingFish, so upload the text file..
[23:54] <BarkingFish> dang. I never thought of that.
[23:54] <tugba_> escott, which means i have to install again. so does dd works like fdisk?
[23:54]  * BarkingFish is a right plonker.
[23:55] <escott> tugba_, if you stopped the dd really really early you might have enough left to restore the partition table and fix the ntfs, but you overwrote the disk
[23:55] <jagginess> BarkingFish, on this one you can upload-- http://pastebin.ca/
[23:55] <mh0`> t/j ##linux
[23:56] <mh0`> whoopsies there
[23:56] <jagginess> tugba_, dd is nothing close to fdisk.. if you dont know what dd is, chances are you'll never use it
[23:57] <aaron_samuel> you can always just use man pages and get a grab of some tea/coffee and read them to know the differences also
[23:57] <jagginess> " if i accidently backed up my external hdd using dd command over my ntfs partition of my laptop hdd "
[23:57] <jagginess> don't use dd.
[23:57] <aaron_samuel> its really hard to confuse me - a sentence like that will do it
[23:57] <tugba_> jagginess, what i meant was dd does the same to its target drive (cleans everything inside) just like fdisk in order to back up from the source
[23:58] <jagginess> tugba_, if you didnt backup your data, that's not our problem..
[23:58] <aaron_samuel> no
[23:58] <aaron_samuel> fdisk doesn't do anything write partitions and list them
[23:58] <ApocGoD> Would someone be so kind as to walk me through setting up an SMTP server on Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:58] <aaron_samuel> dd copies in it's most simplest usage byte for byte from a block device to another block device
[23:58] <jagginess> tugba_, once you start overwriting a partition, that's it. you overwrite the "tables".. once you lose the tables.. then it's pretty much useless in trying to rebuild the table..
[23:58] <tugba_> jagginess, i have my back up but anyway i am not asking you to take it back. just trying to understand the action dd does to its target drive
[23:59] <aaron_samuel> copies bytes for bytes...
[23:59] <Gyges> BarkingFish, http://sprunge.us/
[23:59] <tugba_> jagginess, yes that is the answer
[23:59] <aaron_samuel> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda1 bs=1M  would copy zero's to the sda1 partition