[09:24] <georover> hyper: actually then bst syntax would be VAR="${VAR}`command`"
[09:24] <georover> jgrover@rivendell:~$ VAR=`ls`
[09:24] <georover> jgrover@rivendell:~$ VAR="${VAR}`ps`"
[09:24] <georover> jgrover@rivendell:~$ echo $VAR
[09:24] <georover> Desktop Examples hello.shl hello.shl~ Media tmp PID TTY TIME CMD 5881 pts/2 00:00:00 bash 6822 pts/2 00:00:00 ps
[09:24] <georover> jgrover@rivendell:~$
[09:24] <sysrage> mnoir: i understand. but they have beta3.. beta5 fixes a ton of stuff in beta3
[09:25] <mnoir> i know - sometimes they are slow... :)
[09:25] <HyperDevil> thanks :)
[09:25] <ph8> does anyone know a way to make say, xine, start with certain arguments every time?
[09:25] <LjL> !paste | georover
[09:25] <ubotu> georover: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <atlef> g2g
[09:26] <sysrage> alias xine=xine --myargs works if you're starting it from CLI
[09:26] <cbrake> trying to get wpa working w/ 6.06?  I think my system is up to date, but I only see options for wep?
[09:26] <andrej> stefg: Thanks, awesome, I'm all set:  dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 ~ /install/' > myselections
[09:26] <CraZy675> anyone have a link to a tutorial on installing webmin?
[09:26] <georover> sorry- was only 4 lines...
[09:26] <linux_kid> !wpa
[09:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:26] <stefg> andrej: hehe
[09:27] <CraZy675> !webmin
[09:27] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[09:27] <MikeD_> anyone have a url to a howto for fixing a corrupted filesystem?
 just install the .deb, it will work fine
[09:27] <andrej> Nice feature... hope I can get blinking amarok to work this time around :D
[09:27] <CraZy675> linux_kid: should I be using something else?
[09:28] <CraZy675> i just want a web gui to control my firewall
[09:28] <linux_kid> CraZy675: webmin is fine... just install the .deb file from webmin's site.  Do you know how to install .deb's?
[09:28] <tsoler> mnoir:
[09:29] <georover> ?part
[09:29] <crazyidiot> um, is anybody else having trouble with ati drivers? I am
[09:29] <crazyidiot> i looked around but nothing w orked
[09:29] <tsoler> guys how i ask help from ubotu?
[09:29] <Adlai> tsoler, !question
[09:29] <CraZy675> linux_kid: yea i can handle .debs thanks
[09:29] <tsoler> !ntfs
[09:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:29] <linux_kid> tsoler put a "!" and then your keyword
[09:29] <wasp_ems> hello..does anyone know to tell me when is the swap supposed to be used?
[09:29] <X-Fau1t> wow, how many people here :)
[09:30] <tsoler> fantastico
[09:30] <X-Fau1t> in russian #ubuntu therea only 17 people _
[09:30] <MikeD_> !file system
[09:30] <linux_kid> wasp_ems: its like window's paging file (virtual memory)
[09:30] <manmadha> hee is there any cmd to login as root user on ftp server from host>
[09:30] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB
[09:30] <X-Fau1t> does anybody know, how to play cs 1.6 game from wine?!
[09:30] <manmadha> I am new to networks
[09:30] <linux_kid> !swap
[09:30] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[09:30] <andrej> wasp_ems: when a) there's a shortage of available RAM or b) a processes code in RAM wasn't accessed in a while
[09:31] <phonox> christiane: boot with your live-cd and copy /etc/xorg.conf to a safe place i.e. usb-stick
[09:31] <X-Fau1t> does anybody know, how to play cs 1.6 game from wine?!
[09:31] <wasp_ems> thank you
[09:31] <tsoler> !gis
[09:31] <stefg> manmadha: you know how a telephone works, don't you? :-) So you're /not/ new to networks ;-)
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <MikeD_> pi is exactly equal to 3
[09:31] <tsoler> !qgis
[09:31] <ubotu> qgis: Geographic Information System (GIS). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.4-4.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7340 kB, installed size 20144 kB
[09:31] <linux_kid> !pi
[09:31] <ubotu> pi: Compute Archimedes' constant Pi to arbitrary precision. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.11-1 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 56 kB
[09:32] <manmadha> stefg, ha ha ... so it is not possible..?
[09:32] <MikeD_> well at least someone is reading what i'm typing :)
[09:32] <stefg> manmadha: sorry i didn't get yout initial question, what was it?
[09:32] <MikeD_> i can't boot anymore - the console is filled with errors about the harddrive - i don't know how to fix it
[09:33] <crazyidiot> i realized irc is a bad place to ask questions
[09:33] <andrej> manmadha: only if you set-up the ftp server VERY stupidly
[09:33] <MikeD_> i really don't want to have to destroy all the data on the hdd
[09:33] <manmadha> stefg, it is possible to login as root from ftp client?
[09:33] <X-Fau1t>    -? )))
[09:33] <io] nowhere> hi all :) I have a domain that doesn't get accepted by google hosted for mail, I don't have much experience with ubuntu although I use it on my server where the domain is at as well... How hard is it to install a mailserver? And what program would you suggest?
[09:33] <manmadha> andrej, ohh..... that mean?
[09:34] <XiXaQ> How do I do "dir /s filename.ext" in linux? That is, find out where a spesific file is?
[09:34] <andrej> That it would b appallingly bad practice to try what you're trying
[09:34] <stefg> manmadha: oh, i don't know, but for things like that i'd rather use openssh or somthing like that...
[09:34] <X-Fau1t> Gnome suxxx, kde rulezz
[09:34] <noct3rn> FATAL: Error inserting jfs (/lib modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/fs/jfs/jfs.ko): Cannot allocate memory --- am I missing something besides "sudo modprobe jfs" to load jfs support ?
[09:34] <flodine> please
[09:35] <narvik86> XiXaQ: ls command?
[09:35] <manmadha> stefg, thank uuuu......
[09:35] <chrisjw> i've put tahoma in my ~/.fonts directory, it works for most applications but not amsn, any reason for this/
[09:35] <andrej> XiXaQ: either locate (if locate/slocate is installed), or find (man find for details)
[09:36] <stefg> !openssh-server
[09:36] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[09:37] <stefg> ^^ is not installed by default, manmadha ,
[09:37] <manmadha> stefg, he..I didn't find 'openssh' cmd
[09:37] <manmadha> ohh
[09:37] <manmadha> ok then i have to install it... ;)
[09:37] <stefg> manmadha: sudo aptitude insatll openssh-server
[09:37] <stefg> manmadha: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[09:39] <pop1348> salut
[09:39] <somerville32> Hello pop1348
[09:39] <madman91> hello all
[09:40] <pop1348> je suis pass  edgy mais j'arrive pas  installer les pilote nvidia
[09:40] <stefg> !fr
[09:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:40] <La_PaRCa> !fr
[09:40] <pop1348> avec easy ubuntu
[09:40] <madman91> i plugged in a usb reader and it does not mount or show up anywhere.. its not in fdisk -l ... not in mount ... anyways.. i have the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog and kernel in the pastebin .. http://madman91.pastebin.ca/281470 .. any ideas?
[09:40] <stefg> B-)
[09:40] <pop1348> il est marqu qu'il faut insrer le cd ubuntu 6.10
[09:40] <pop1348> mais je lai pas j'ai que l'alternate
[09:40] <Armen>    -? )))
[09:40] <pop1348> comment faire ?
[09:41] <La_PaRCa> !fr > pop1348
[09:41] <regeya> whee.
[09:41] <Random_Transit> pop1348, pour le francais, allez a #ubuntu-fr
[09:41] <Desert88> hey could someone help me I feel kind of retarded lol
[09:41] <Desert88> Im just got amarok
[09:42] <somerville32> !ask | Desert88
[09:42] <ubotu> Desert88: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:42] <Random_Transit> Desert88, what's your question
[09:42] <regeya> Desert88: and just having amarok makes you retarded?  !ask
[09:42] <Desert88> k
[09:42] <regeya> so is the bod called Random_Transit now
[09:42] <Random_Transit> lol
[09:42] <regeya> s/bod/bot/
[09:42] <Random_Transit> nope
[09:42] <Desert88> well I was trying to listen to one of the radio streams and it says its playing but I dont hear anything
[09:42] <Random_Transit> i just speak a bit of french
[09:42] <Desert88> but sound works find on anything else
[09:42] <Random_Transit> hmm
[09:42] <madman91> anyone have any ideas with my problem
[09:43] <Desert88> like on firefox
[09:43] <Desert88> so its nothing with hardware
[09:43] <pop1348> ok thanks
[09:43] <Desert88> and I dont have any music files on this os
[09:43] <Desert88> so i cant test amarok any other way
[09:43] <regeya> well, I was at work for a while, but now it's time to mosey back home.  working on weekends sucks.
[09:43] <MikeD_> Can i reinstall from the live cd without losing all the data on my haddrive?
[09:43] <Random_Transit> Desert88, do you have amarok-arts installed?
[09:43] <Desert88> no
[09:43] <Neocorp> is there a way to "pin" a gdesklets-desklet to the desktop so it wont be minimized when clicking the "show desktop" icon?
[09:44] <Desert88> do i need that for amarok
[09:44] <saif> i am tring to change the sudoers file, that i should add default !env_reset, is it ok if i do this? (safe)
[09:44] <Random_Transit> Desert88, that's the problem
[09:44] <Desert88> ah ok
[09:44] <Desert88> I will go install it
[09:44] <saharaab> hallo
[09:44] <phonox> EVERYONE: can someone plz try to /msg me? christiane said my privacy settings seem to disallow it...
[09:44] <wheels3572> How do I go about using a .bin file under Ubuntu?
[09:44] <madman91> i plugged in a usb reader and it does not mount or show up anywhere.. its not in fdisk -l ... not in mount ... anyways.. i have the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog and kernel in the pastebin .. http://madman91.pastebin.ca/281470 .. any ideas?
[09:45] <saharaab> can anyone tell me what's better EXT3 or Reiser??
[09:45] <Neocorp> is there a way to "pin" a gdesklets-desklet to the desktop so it wont be minimized when clicking the "show desktop" icon?
[09:45] <phonox> thanks! enough. anyone experienced any problems messaging me?
[09:46] <phonox> hmm
[09:46] <Curs0r> does anyone know if opengl works over xdmcp?
[09:46] <wheels3572> What is a .bin file for Linux
[09:46] <Random_Transit> wheels3572, it could be a couple things
[09:46] <Curs0r> or more precisely, beryl?
[09:47] <Random_Transit> wheels3572, most likely an executable file
[09:47] <HYB> Does anyone know of a PHP editor with FTP for ubuntu?
[09:47] <phonox> wheels: executables are
[09:47] <wheels3572> Random_Transit, how do I unpack it?
[09:47] <Random_Transit> HYB, Zend Studio
[09:47] <HYB> Random_Transit, thanks <3
[09:47] <Random_Transit> wheels3572, ./filename.bin
[09:47] <Desert88> is there anything else I need to do after installing amarok arts to get it to work?
[09:47] <Desert88> because I installed it and restarted amarok and its still not working
[09:48] <phonox> wheels: you can chmod +x them and then execute by ./something.bin
[09:48] <graft> ugh, don't use arts
[09:48] <Random_Transit> Desert88, best bet is to open synaptic and search for amarok
[09:48] <madman91> saharaab: i heard that reisferfs is faster..
[09:48] <christiane_> Hello. What is the cleanest way to modprobe ndiswrapper at system start?
[09:48] <Desert88> thats what I did
[09:48] <HYB> Random_Transit, that's not free... is it?
[09:48] <Desert88> I installed amarok
[09:48] <madman91> saharaab: ext3 is slower.. but more stable i think... i'm sure my friend google knows :D
[09:48] <Desert88> and then installed arts
[09:48] <wheels3572> Random_Transit, Im having an issue ever since I updated to Edgy I cant see NOTHING on my desktop any idea why
[09:48] <graft> reiser is faster if you have directories with LOTS of files in 'em
[09:48] <cjtenny> hey somebody.... why is it that I can't seem to install any of the x-devel packages?  i get a bunch of apt and/or dpkg errors.....
[09:49] <wheels3572> it's like it's in another area
[09:49] <saharaab> can i convert reiser to ext3??
[09:49] <graft> otherwise i think they're pretty much equivalent...
[09:49] <cjtenny> ext is my preference
[09:49] <HYB> any one else with suggestions for a PHP editor with built in FTP?
[09:49] <Random_Transit> wheels3572, because edgy is buggy
[09:49] <graft> Desert88: seriously, don't use arts...
[09:49] <cjtenny> hey somebody.... why is it that I can't seem to install any of the x-devel packages?  i get a bunch of apt and/or dpkg errors.....
[09:49] <cjtenny> (in edgy)
[09:49] <wheels3572> But if I goto Thunar and click on Deskto
[09:49] <graft> cjtenny: like what?
[09:50] <wheels3572> I see EVERYTHING
[09:50] <ph8> HYB: gedit?
[09:50] <cjtenny> graft, hold on a sec lemme get one name
[09:50] <wasp_ems> hello..i have a laptop on 2.8mhz and 512ram..i am going to install bebian and kde on it..does anyone know if by adding karamba applets and panel will affect my overall performance?
[09:50] <madman91> saharaab: no idea... look it up
[09:50] <HYB> ph8, i don't think that has built in FTP
[09:50] <ph8> you can mount ftp filesystems with gnome
[09:50] <ph8> same thing
[09:50] <ugarit> my firefox 2.0 crahes every few minutes!  anyone else have this problem?
[09:50] <Random_Transit> wheels3572, sounds like the gnome-desktop executable is crashing
[09:50] <wasp_ems> ugarit, i do
[09:50] <cjtenny> graft, libglu1-mesa-dev depends libglu1-mesa certain version but a newer one is to be installed
[09:51] <wheels3572> I get no error msgs
[09:51] <wheels3572> I just cant see anything on desktop
[09:51] <cjtenny> graft, i'm trying to install opengl development libs
[09:51] <ugarit> wasp_ems: so I guess there's a bug!
[09:51] <wheels3572> but if I go into Thunar I can click on Desktop and see it all
[09:51] <Random_Transit> wheels3572, that's really odd...did you upgrade or is this a fresh install?
[09:51] <wheels3572> Upgrade
[09:51] <Random_Transit> ahh
[09:51] <Random_Transit> that's it then
[09:51] <graft> cjtenny: um, apt-cache policy libglu1-mesa-dev
[09:51] <wasp_ems> ugarit, yeah i guess so..i tried uninstalling and installing again but nothing..so i just added konqueror
[09:52] <Random_Transit> you're one of the many casualties of the dapper/edgy upgrade, wheels3572
[09:52] <wasp_ems> ugarit, probably will install an older version to be fine
[09:52] <wheels3572> Random_Transit, ok how do I fix this then lol
[09:52] <Random_Transit> wheels3572, my suggestion, back up your data, and reinstall edgy
[09:52] <madman91> i plugged in a usb reader and it does not mount or show up anywhere.. its not in fdisk -l ... not in mount ... anyways.. i have the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog and kernel in the pastebin .. http://madman91.pastebin.ca/281470 .. any ideas?
[09:52] <cjtenny> graft, what about it?
[09:53] <Nippoo> gr. ubuntu + SMB networks = not good.
[09:53] <wheels3572> I dont have my cd burner running so
[09:53] <wheels3572> I cant do that
[09:53] <Random_Transit> otherwise you're likely to see a whole mess of new problems
[09:53] <wheels3572> thats why I just did the upgrade
[09:53] <wheels3572> lol
[09:53] <graft> cjtenny: what version is it trying to install?
[09:53] <Random_Transit> wheels3572, then downgrade to Breezy for now
[09:53] <wheels3572> ok
[09:54] <Desert88> how can I get music from my ipod to amarok?
[09:54] <cjtenny> graft, it depends 6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 but it's installing  6.5.1+cvs20060824 of libglu1-mesa (whatlibglu1-mesa-dev depends on)
[09:54] <Random_Transit> Desert88, right click on a song on the ipod and hit save to library
[09:55] <phonox> christiane: do you experience better video performance now?
[09:55] <Desert88> k
[09:55] <graft> cjtenny: um, you got some extra repositories in your sources.list?
[09:55] <ubun> how do i install flash 9 on ubuntu ? i have backports enabled
[09:55] <Random_Transit> ubun, you need wine
[09:55] <Flannel> Random_Transit: no he doesn't
[09:55] <ubun> i mean the player
[09:55] <Random_Transit> wha?!
[09:55] <ubun> i dont want to create flash movies :P
[09:55] <Random_Transit> really??
[09:55] <Flannel> ubun: it's in backports, so it should show up in your repository
[09:55] <cjtenny> graft, a few....
[09:55] <graft> ubun: you have to download the binary from adobe site
[09:55] <Flannel> !flash9
[09:55] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[09:56] <wasp_ems> does anyone know the reasons that a cpu might be 100% most of the time when running applications?
[09:56] <ubun> flannel know what it's called in synaptic?
[09:56] <graft> cjtenny: apt-cache policy libglu1-mesa will show you where it's getting that cvs one from, disable that source and it oughta work
[09:56] <ubun> it's not under the name 'flash*'
[09:56] <Random_Transit> !backports
[09:56] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:56] <cjtenny> ok
[09:56] <cjtenny> hmm it's from http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[09:56] <Flannel> ubun: you sure you have backports enabled?  I can't image it'd be called something without flash in the name.
[09:56] <cjtenny> graft, hmm it's from http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[09:57] <tchris> Is there an easy way to get ubuntu 6.10 to support my widescreen? I have a Dell 2005FPW and an ATi X800
[09:57] <ubun> flannel well i did waht the docs said and uncommented the backports line from sources.list
[09:57] <ubun> or is there more i have to do ?
[09:57] <graft> cjtenny: urm. wtf. my edgy mirror doesn't have that...
[09:57] <Flannel> ubun: no, that's really it
[09:57] <cjtenny> graft, yeah mine's not listed in sources.list
[09:57] <cjtenny> graft, can you send me a good sources.list?
[09:57] <Zaggynl> which kernel is better suited for amd64: k7, 686 or 386?
[09:58] <Flannel> Zaggynl: none of those are 64bit kernels
[09:58] <ubun> flashplayer-nonfree is all that turns up in synaptic after adding backports, and it says it's verison 7.0.63
[09:58] <graft> um, i'm using http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu, cjtenny
[09:58] <Zaggynl> Flannel, actually I want to use 32bit :)
[09:58] <cjtenny> graft, cat souces.list | grep Packages yields nothing
[09:58] <cjtenny> graft, what?
[09:58] <Flannel> Zaggynl: using dapper? or edgy?
[09:58] <[Relic] > how do I list all installed packages?
[09:58] <Zaggynl> Flannel, dapper
[09:58] <Flannel> ubun: pastebin your sources.list please
[09:58] <Flannel> Zaggynl: k7 is amd specific, but any of those will work fine
[09:58] <graft> cjtenny: edit your sources.list and change archive.ubuntu.com to ftp.ussg.iu.edu
[09:58] <wheels3572> HOw do I go about finding that one file that I have here that I just downloaded
[09:58] <cjtenny> ok....
[09:59] <Desert88> Hey whoever told me to add music from my ipod to amarok, right click and click add to lib, I dont get that option when I right click a track on my ipod, any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[09:59] <cjtenny> graft, for every source?
[09:59] <Zaggynl> Flannel, I'm wondering if there will be any performance boost between 386 and k7
[09:59] <cjtenny> and graft, is that ok for edgy?
[09:59] <cjtenny> graft, also -- is that plenty fast?
[09:59] <Flannel> Zaggynl: yeah, normal optomization stuff
[09:59] <ubul4> i just installed ubuntu. it reports the sound card as 'ALI 5451', but there is no sound. Anyone got an idea as where to look?
[09:59] <graft> cjtenny: yeah it's an ubuntu mirror, not sure why there's the diff... it's a university line, so it's hella fast
[09:59] <tchris> Is there an easy way to get ubuntu 6.10 to support my widescreen? I have a Dell 2005FPW and an ATi X800
[10:00] <vanberge> tchris: you probably need to install the ati drivers
[10:00] <wheels3572> Random_Transit, How do I go about finding a file I just downloaded and knowing where it's path is?  Can I do it via cli so I know the exact path?
[10:00] <tchris> there are no widescreen resolutions available
[10:00] <Flannel> tchris: so, add one
[10:00] <graft> ubul4: sure you have all the appropriate mixer volumes turned up?
[10:00] <cjtenny> so graft i change to ftp:/ftp.ussg.iu.edu/ ?
[10:01] <tchris> Flannel, is there a way to do this without editing large, confusing text files?
[10:01] <vanberge> can anybody comment on feisty's wlan support?  i have a wlan card that has yet to be supported in any single *nix
[10:01] <cjtenny> (change http://*/ to that?)
[10:01] <ubun> flannel my bad, i didnt uncomment both backport lines, didnt notice the second one, works now :)
[10:01] <graft> cjtenny: http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/, not ftp:
[10:01] <cjtenny> ok
[10:01] <ubul4> graft: yes the ALSA mixer looks ok.
[10:01] <vanberge> ^ card mentioned above = netgear WG511 v2
[10:01] <graft> ubul4: um, cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[10:01] <Flannel> graft: don't be stupid
[10:01] <bruenig> vanberge, I would assume #ubuntu+1 would be able to field that question better
[10:02] <graft> Flannel: beg pardon?
[10:02] <vanberge> !#ubuntu+1 | vanberge
[10:02] <ubotu> vanberge: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <strabes> tchris: you should install the proprietary ATI drivers. look here for how: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:02] <ubun> how come firefox 2 doesnt show up in backports
[10:02] <tchris> Thank you strabes
[10:02] <ubul4> graft: nothing, just hangs. i killed it with ctrl+c
[10:03] <madman91> ubun: if you find an answer to your question please tell me it :D i too want to experiment with firefox 2
[10:03] <Desert88> hey guys Im going insane
[10:03] <Desert88> I cant here anything out of amarok
[10:03] <Desert88> and I cant get the music off my ipod
[10:03] <bruenig> madman91, you aren't missing much believe me
[10:03] <drkm> Des: test
[10:03] <Desert88> ?
[10:03] <drkm> sorry, just testing my auto complete
[10:03] <madman91> bruenig: i know .. i just want one more thing on my list of pointless things to do
[10:03] <Desert88> oh
[10:03] <drkm> Desk: test
[10:04] <drkm> Desker: test
[10:04] <madman91> i plugged in a usb reader and it does not mount or show up anywhere.. its not in fdisk -l ... not in mount ... anyways.. i have the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog and kernel in the pastebin .. http://madman91.pastebin.ca/281470 .. any ideas?
[10:04] <cjtenny> graft, can you send me a good sources.list?  i did it and it can't find any of them
[10:04] <drkm> Des: test
[10:04] <Desert88> so anyone have any ideas
[10:04] <Flannel> !firefox | madman91, ubun
[10:04] <ubun> ah man, i uninstalled flash7 player and sound was working again, then i installed flash 9 player and it's back to not working (in my mp3 players)
[10:04] <ubotu> madman91, ubun: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:04] <Desert88> why I cant hear anything out of amarok
[10:04] <bruenig> madman91, you can get the firefox from getfirefox.com, all you have to do is extract it and run the firefox script in the directory
[10:04] <drkm> :deser:
[10:04] <drkm> :Des
[10:04] <drkm> Des: test
[10:04] <ubun> Desert88:  you need the mp3 codecs
[10:04] <Desert88> how can I get those
[10:04] <cjtenny> graft, can you send me a good sources.list?  i did it and it can't find any of them
[10:05] <graft> cjtenny: yeah hode on
[10:05] <cjtenny> graft, k thanks
[10:05] <ubun> !restricted | desert88
[10:05] <ubotu> desert88: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:05] <luki_> helo :)
[10:05] <graft> cjtenny: you should get by with just this one line: deb http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:06] <Taa5i> Hello.  I am attempting to install the Server edition of Edgy Eft onto a laptop with no CD rom drive and which cannot boot from USB.  How might I go about this please?
[10:06] <Flannel> !install | Taa5i
[10:06] <ubotu> Taa5i: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:06] <Flannel> Taa5i: first link, lots of methods
[10:07] <graft> ubul4: you don't get any 'device busy' thing with that?
[10:07] <nothlit> Anyone have experience with ext3 corruption? I'm trying to delete/restore a file that cannot be modified or read in any way with root privileges.
[10:07] <SpiX^> what do i need to start a psyBNC ?
[10:07] <cjtenny> graft, ah thanks now it's updating... now to hope that i can install the x dev packages
[10:08] <ubun> ok nm sound does work with flash9, man linux is weird with multimedia stuff
[10:08] <cjtenny> no graft i still get the error with libglu1-mesa
[10:08] <ubul4> graft: no nothing, it just sits and waits until I kill it with ctrl+c
[10:08] <bruenig> ubun, blame closed formats
[10:09] <mats> ubuntu and multimedia is a little bit corky
[10:09] <ubun> i do :)
[10:09] <ubun> google should make an operating system
[10:09] <SpiX^> what do i need to start a psyBNC ? some one ?
[10:09] <ubun> backports/flash9 seem to have fixed everything in dapper
[10:10] <strabes> Ubun: i've heard something like goobuntu is in the works
[10:10] <strabes> dunno though
[10:10] <mats> SpiX^: thats not a "ubuntu" question. Read on the bnc-site ;) i dont know.. havnt set up a bouncer for years
[10:10] <SpiX^> i can typ make it is a erro then
[10:10] <strabes> ubun: they use it internally, inside the googleplex
[10:10] <cjtenny> graft?....
[10:11] <ubun> strabes oh yeah i heard about that too i think
[10:11] <mats> SpiX^: what does the error say?
[10:11] <cjtenny> graft i still get the error with libglu1-mesa
[10:11] <strabes> ubun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goobuntu
[10:11] <SpiX^> can i past it here?
[10:11] <Flannel> !paste | SpiX^
[10:11] <ubotu> SpiX^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:11] <Administrator> SpiX^, no.
[10:12] <mats> use pastbin ;)
[10:12] <noelferreira> hi have wireless driver rt61 working on amd64 edgy. however i can't use the file /etc/network/interfaces. if i do that the system crashes. i have to run manually 'dhclient ra0' every reboot. any solution?
[10:13] <Capslock118> how do i use the is32-libs?
[10:13] <vanberge> noelferreira: are you using WPA?
[10:13] <noelferreira> nothing vanberge
[10:13] <Administrator> noelferreira, you can not use rt61 driver using smp / preempt kernel.
[10:13] <noelferreira> open wireless. only mac adress
[10:13] <vanberge> noelferreira: sorry, that was my only suggestion...  :-/
[10:14] <Administrator> noelferreira, use 386 kernel
[10:14] <SpiX^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37445/
[10:14] <Curs0r> http://123pichosting.com/images/9844Screenshot-1.jpg
[10:14] <noelferreira> how can i Administrator? it is working fine. i  only have to turn it on manually
[10:15] <Administrator> noelferreira, You can read all about the issues on the rt61 and rt related driver forums.
[10:15] <noelferreira> Administrator: i have to delete /etc/network/interfaces fie
[10:15] <Administrator> noelferreira, you could use wpa.
[10:15] <noelferreira> lol Administrator i spend my time in there
[10:15] <mats> Curs0r: seen it before ;)
[10:15] <noelferreira> i dont need encryptation Administrator
[10:16] <Administrator> noelferreira, show me your /etc/network/interfaces
[10:16] <Administrator> you can use wpa without encryption to
[10:16] <noelferreira> i don't use it Administrator, ii have to delete it
[10:16] <noelferreira> or my system hang up
[10:16] <Administrator> no.
[10:16] <Desert88> should i have my amarok set to the xines or arts engine?
[10:17] <Administrator>  /etc/network/interfaces is part of the base system
[10:17] <ub12> How do I tell which of my usb ports is usb2 ans usb1?
[10:17] <mats> SpiX^: install gcc
[10:17] <SpiX^> how ?
[10:17] <noelferreira> ya i know Administrator but i have to delete it or my system won't start up
[10:17] <mats> SpiX^: 'sudo apt-get install gcc'
[10:17] <gouki> !paste > gouki
[10:17] <Desert88> should i use xine engine or arts engine for amarok?
[10:18] <mats> SpiX^: and dont make the psyBNC as root :p
[10:18] <Administrator> noelferreira, you can just turn it off as a service or just comment the part you don't need out.
[10:18] <Capslock118> i got cedega to work :)
[10:18] <jughead>  what command do I use to find out how much of my RAM is being used as video memory?  I have an intel 940GM pci express integrated graphics
[10:18] <Administrator> noelferreira, what makes you so sure your system freezes because of the file and not what's in the file?
[10:18] <Desert88> anyone know which engine to use arts or xine
[10:18] <Desert88> for amarok
[10:18] <SpiX^> i have it alreddy
[10:18] <mats> Capslock118: now you can run any games you want - allmost ;) Enjoy!
[10:18] <Moosejaw> hey all...how can i get streaming video in firefox if it needs windows media player 10?
[10:19] <ubul4> how do I install packages without an internet connection?
[10:19] <Capslock118> mats: yeah, im sure it wont work right when i run the game, but its atleast installing WoW
[10:19] <narvik86> jughead: i think you can only check it in BIOS
[10:19] <Duesentrieb> Desert88: if you are using kde, i would recommend arts. under gnome, not.
[10:19] <ub12> Desert88 I have used arts before but remember there were some timeout issues
[10:19] <noelferreira> ok Administrator its not because of the file. its because of the part related with ra0
[10:19] <jughead> oh ok thanks narvik86
[10:19] <noelferreira> but i don't use eth0 so the file is not necessary
[10:19] <Administrator> noelferreira, then just comment it out and write your own script that setups ra0
[10:19] <Desert88> ok
[10:19] <mats> ubul4: dpkg -i file.deb
[10:19] <Administrator> noelferreira, altough I think you misconfigured your /etc/network/ineterfaces
[10:20] <Moosejaw> hey all...how can i get streaming video in firefox if it needs windows media player 10?  Can anyone help me out?
[10:20] <graft> Moosejaw: is it DRM'd?
[10:20] <mats> Moosejaw: i think VLC has a plugin for firefox
[10:20] <strabes> Moosejaw: mplayer firefox plugin
[10:20] <strabes> or vlc
[10:20] <Administrator> Moosejaw, install w32codecs and juse mplayerplugin
[10:20] <Fleebailey33> mozilla
[10:20] <Fleebailey33> so firefox would work
[10:20] <mats> ah, mplayer it is :p
[10:20] <ppd> g
[10:20] <Desert88> Im seriously going insane lol I cannot get any sound to come out of amarok
[10:20] <Moosejaw> sure but this is specifically asking for windows media player
[10:20] <Desert88> streams say they are playing but I dont hear them
[10:21] <Moosejaw> but maybe i dont have the plugins installed i gues
[10:21] <ubul4> mats: and where can I get the .deb files?
[10:21] <Duesentrieb> hmm... does anyone know how to find out the model id of an asus laptop? the manual sais Z53J, but that doesn't seem to be the actual model name (the ASUS site doesn't know it)
[10:21] <onofrio> help for mount USB partition with GRUB
[10:21] <mikeo1> how do i make double click maximise windows
[10:21] <noelferreira> Administrator: how can write a scrip for two different conecntions
[10:21] <khatun> are there ubuntu edgy packages for fglrx 8.32.5 anywhere?
[10:21] <Adlai> Desert88, alsamixer
[10:21] <Desert88> whats alsamixer?
[10:22] <Desert88> should i install it
[10:22] <Adlai> lets you control volume
[10:22] <besucher> i m sorry for disturbing i only have a small  question which should be easy to answer... at the moment i'm using x-chat and i don know this prog, normally using mirc... i simply can't find the posibilty of joining another network which is not given in the list of networks but i know for sure that it exists
[10:22] <mats> ubul4: on the internet, or from your ubuntu-cds. You can even do 'sudo rm /etc/apt/source-list ; sudo apt-setup'
[10:22] <dcmoore1> hi
[10:22] <Desert88> volume of amarok or system
[10:22] <Desert88> ?
[10:22] <mats> and then make cd insted of the net to make it get packes
[10:22] <strabes> Desert88: does sound work normally?
[10:22] <Administrator> noelferreira, well just use lo or whatever in /etc/network/interfaces and add another init startup script that setsup your ra0. check out /etc/init.d/skeleton
[10:22] <noelferreira> Administrator: i web one with wep and another open. i need that it knows wich one to connect. do you know what i mean?
[10:22] <Desert88> yes
[10:22] <Adlai> Desert88, system
[10:22] <Desert88> adlai: the sound works on the system fine
[10:22] <Adlai> oh never mind then
[10:23] <Administrator> noelferreira, checkout man iwlist
[10:23] <strabes> Desert88: install alsa-oss
[10:23] <Desert88> what will that do?
[10:23] <strabes> then run firefox with aoss in front of it like "aoss firefox"
[10:23] <Adlai> strabes, it's amarok, not firefox
[10:23] <mikeo1> how do i make double clicking on menus maximise windows
[10:23] <Loran_> Hello, i have problem with starting Ubuntu Live CD... When I run it my screen is filled by strips, please contact me on private chat! ;(
[10:23] <Desert88> all my sound works fine everwhere else but amarok
[10:23] <Desert88> I cant hear streams
[10:24] <Desert88> even though it says they are playing
[10:24] <strabes> Adlai: they'll all monopolize my soundcard - i'll only be able to use one of them at a time
[10:24] <strabes> with sound
[10:24] <Desert88> and I cant hear files off my ipod
[10:24] <Moosejaw> hey guys...can u see if you can stream video from last nights hockey games from nhl.com?
[10:24] <Moosejaw> i have the plugins installed of mplayer and vlc...
[10:24] <Moosejaw> but nothing comes up when i try to view the vids
[10:24] <Adlai> strabes, sounds like you need to fix your mixer
[10:24] <Adlai> not that I would know how
[10:25] <mikeo1> found it nevermind
[10:25] <Administrator> moonlite, did you install mozilla-mplayer?
[10:25] <strabes> Adlai: it works with aoss in front of everything
[10:25] <Administrator> i mean Moosejaw
[10:25] <mats> strabes: maybe try using Gstreamer? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GstreamerAudioBackend?highlight=%28gstreamer%29 )
[10:25] <Moosejaw> hehe
[10:25] <Moosejaw> yes
[10:25] <noelferreira> can you send to me your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:25] <noelferreira> can you send to me your /etc/network/interfaces ? Administrator
[10:26] <Administrator> Moosejaw, check with about:plugins in firefox if the correct plugins are listed and only use one video emeeded extention.
[10:26] <Administrator> *embeded
[10:26] <mats> hehe
[10:26] <Administrator> Moosejaw, also check for sure that your system is cabable of viewing the format.
[10:26] <iturk> hi there my friends !! is there any think like visual studio for linux for web develop ??
[10:27] <mats> !br
[10:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:27] <Moosejaw> theyre all installed
[10:27] <Administrator> iturk, yes there is, non-free and free. try bluefish for webdevelopment or screem, man apt-cache (search for 'search")
[10:27] <saharaab_> what's the default FS in ubuntu reiser or ext3?
[10:27] <Adlai> ext3
[10:27] <iturk> Administrator: you mean search for webdevelopment
[10:28] <mats> ext3
[10:28] <Moosejaw> Admin: could you possibly check the link and see if it plays for you?
[10:28] <Moosejaw> it doesnt make sense why it wouldnt stream
[10:28] <Administrator> iturk, search for editor and grep for tags like HTML
[10:28] <SpiX^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37446/ ???
[10:29] <Administrator> iturk,some advice, try emacs, might take a while to get used to, but after you get used to it and you know what it is capable of, you'll love it. It's the most extensible editor out there. Try #emacs.
[10:29] <Administrator> #emacs
[10:29] <iturk> Administrator: apt-cache search editor | grep html -> proofgeneral-doc !! just this !!
[10:29] <Administrator> !emacs
[10:29] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[10:29] <Administrator> !html
[10:29] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[10:29] <Administrator> iturk, try capital letters for html
[10:30] <Administrator> iturk, bluefish is in universe do you have the right repository's in your sources.list?
[10:30] <iturk> Administrator: i use visual studio for devoloping web stuf in windows i am trying to find something similar in linux i dont want console stuf !!
[10:30] <iturk> Administrator: yes i can search for it
[10:30] <oneironaut> hello
[10:30] <saharaab_> hello
[10:31] <Administrator> iturk, well there is no console stuff in there.
[10:31] <ryanakca> would dmesg have the logs for the creation of /etc/fstab at installation?
[10:31] <Administrator> iturk, only gui.
[10:31] <laboratorio6> hola
[10:31] <tomh-> try aptana for a html editor
[10:31] <tomh-> its the best~
[10:31] <jprieur-macbook> hello, I just finished the installation of edgy on macbook and my wifi card isn't recognized, could anybody gimme some help?
[10:31] <ub12> How do I tell which of my usb ports is usb2 and usb1? I can see 3 usb1 and 1 usb2 on lspci but which ones are they on the computer? I can see my device on lsusb.
[10:31] <Arigato> what is a good ftp program that automatically switches between binary and ascii?
[10:32] <iturk> Administrator: i already try quanta for it but i think that visual studio its much powerfull !! i would like to find something similar
[10:32] <tomh-> iturk: aptana
[10:32] <Administrator> iturk, take a while, experiment with edtiors, try vim and emacs, these are the two most used and advanced editors out there. ( #emacs , #vim )
[10:32] <BioVorE> Arigato: most ftp clients do
[10:32] <Moosejaw> can someone go to nhl.com and try to view the streaming video highlights and let me know if it works for you?
[10:32] <iturk> Administrator: i understand
[10:32] <mats> Arigato: ncftp
[10:32] <oneironaut> ive just a short question, ive mounted my windows-hda5 to /media/windows-D. if i want to go to /media/windows-D ive got the message "Permission denied..."
[10:32] <SpiX^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37446/ ??? what is wron ?
[10:32] <gouki> Moosejaw: Do you have Flash9 BETA installed?
[10:33] <Moosejaw> i think so
[10:33] <Moosejaw> sorry..yes i do
[10:33] <Moosejaw> :)
[10:33] <oneironaut> can anyone help me pls.. i use kubuntu 610
[10:33] <gouki> oneironaut: #kubuntu
[10:33] <Dina>
[10:34] <iturk> tomh-: i will check it
[10:34] <gouki> !kubuntu | oneironaut
[10:34] <ubotu> oneironaut: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:34] <reverseblade> is GNASH usuable instead of flash, does it work in youtube ?
[10:34] <oneironaut> hehe thx gouki, i know that kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[10:34] <iturk> Administrator: i will check bluefish
[10:35] <oneironaut> but i think my question is equal to ubuntu/kubuntu
[10:35] <Administrator> iturk, my personal favor: emacs.
[10:35] <kejoki42> oh, there's something besides emacs?  ;)
[10:35] <iturk> Administrator: i understand your point but if the ide its more user friendly then you can program more efficiently and more fast
[10:35] <reverseblade> Administrator, yes but real men use vim
[10:35] <mats> oneironaut: im a fan of rtfm :p try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:36] <Administrator> iturk, emacs works keyboard binding.
[10:36] <iturk> Administrator: i usually use vim but only for c programming
[10:36] <Administrator> i see.
[10:36] <reverseblade> vim rocks
[10:36] <jon_> I am an emacs guy myself
[10:36] <oneironaut> yes youre right mats.. but i thounght my questions is so simple that anyone can explain me the my failure in 1 minute
[10:36] <strabes> kind of a weird question: is there a way to turn off that annoying zooming rectangle that appears when I click a shortcut on my panel?
[10:37] <mats> reverseblade: gvim \o/
[10:37] <strabes> which signals that the program is being opend
[10:37] <reverseblade> mats, same stuff
[10:37] <oneironaut> but thx for the link...
[10:37] <Moosejaw> can someone try to get the video to work on nhl.com?
[10:38] <ub12> Moosejaw I went to nhl.com and tried to play highlights and I got the message "mrl deformed". I have gxine plugin.
[10:38] <Moosejaw> just to make sure it aint me...and its them.
[10:38] <iturk> tomh-: aptana looks like eclipse !!
[10:38] <Moosejaw> ubl2 thanks
[10:38] <Moosejaw> so its them?
[10:38] <jon_> I want beryl to work with the dbus any tip on how to set this up quickly?
[10:38] <mats> reverseblade: i know :p didnt mean to send the msg.. enter insted of backspace
[10:38] <ub12> I'll try and play something else
[10:38] <christiane> Hello. I have 6 partitions but the kernel only recognized 5 of them. Any idea?
[10:39] <iturk> tomh-: can you do drag and drop of thinks like bottons ??
[10:39] <jon_> what filesystems are the partitions?
[10:39] <reverseblade> christiane, simple five fingers five partitions that's it :)
[10:39] <christiane> reverseblade: ???
[10:39] <strabes> christiane: is one of them ntfs?
[10:40] <ub12> Moosejaw Yeah it is them I got another stream to play: "saves of the week"
[10:40] <reverseblade> christiane, ignore it , just a bad joke, but I admit I laughed a lot
[10:40] <jon_> Its got to be an ntfs
[10:40] <Moosejaw> k...geeze..losers
[10:40] <Moosejaw> thanks man
[10:40] <christiane> reverseblade: :)
[10:40] <christiane> strabes: Yes, but that one is shown.
[10:41] <jon_> how strange
[10:41] <strabes> christiane: which one isn't being shown
[10:41] <jon_> swap maybe?
[10:41] <jon_> it might be a mounting issue
[10:41] <netcrash> Hello, what is the latest version of ubuntu , dapper ?/topic
[10:41] <netcrash> sorry neverming that above question
[10:41] <strabes> netcrash: edgy 6.10
[10:41] <jon_> 6.10 - edgy
[10:41] <jon_> lol
[10:41] <strabes> jon_: that's what i was thinking - she probably has to edit her /etc/fstab
[10:42] <christiane> strabes, jon_: There are: prim: 1, 2, ext: 3: log: 5, 6, 7, 8. Number 8 is not recognized.
[10:42] <veljko> Hi everyone. Is there a way to enable OpenGL if usin sis 661 vga card? thanks
[10:43] <Curs0r> veljko, if there is you probably won't be happy with it lol
[10:43] <strabes> what file system is 8, and is it in your /etc/fstab
[10:43] <strabes> christiane:  what file system is 8, and is it in your /etc/fstab, and is it /dev/sda8?
[10:43] <jon_> OpenGL on a vga card - not the best idea
[10:44] <jon_> if so is /dev/sda8 in /media/
[10:44] <jon_> (monted somewhere)
[10:45] <jon_> why must I lag so much on irc
[10:45] <christiane> strabes: disc is sda. 1: vfat, 2: ntfs, 5: swap, 6: reiserfs (/), 7: ext3, 8: none.
[10:45] <jon_> My campus network sucks
[10:45] <h0ndaracer2> hello everyone
[10:45] <veljko> On a laptop under windows i get some HW accseleration. Under linux cant ewen use screensaver if 3d... thats the thing
[10:46] <strabes> christiane: 8 has no file system type? that's probably why ubuntu isn't recognizing it. it doesn't know what it is. you need to install gparted and format it as something, and then mount it in /etc/fstab
[10:46] <Curs0r> my cable inet is glorious 1300kb/s from most repos
[10:46] <oneironaut> ok... ive mounted my partitions... thx guys =)
[10:46] <strabes> Curs0r: that's super fast wow
[10:47] <christiane> strabes: Why do I have to format it to let it be recognized?
[10:47] <jon_> I have over 200 ms of lag
[10:47] <Curs0r> strabes, it can get up to 1600
[10:47] <strabes> Curs0r: nice one
[10:47] <kejoki42> amd Turion64 x2, nvidia c51 w/ hidef audio, etherenet, usb, pci , nvidia geforce 6150, broadcom wireless nic ... no sound, no gl, can't get the dratted proprietary nvidia driver to compile and acpi doesn't work.  Anyone been through this, or something similar?
[10:47] <Nippoo> wow. I've got 6000 =)
[10:47] <jon_> on good days I can get 2000
[10:47] <Curs0r> i'm so happy i moved back to a real city lol
[10:47] <christiane> strabes: That's my problem: $
[10:47] <christiane> ls /dev/sda*
[10:47] <christiane> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda3  /dev/sda5  /dev/sda6  /dev/sda7
[10:47] <vanberge> anybody know of a "qucksilver" type application for ubuntu/gnome ? thanks in advance!
[10:48] <strabes> christiane: i don't know. does it show up in gparted?
[10:48] <christiane> strabes: sfdisk, cfdisk and fdisk -l show it.
[10:48] <levander> Is there a good pixel ruler I can install?
[10:48] <strabes> christiane: just format it to ext3 using gparted and then it should show up. if not then i dunno sorry. i g2g
[10:49] <jon_> christiane: can you see it in the "disks" utility?
[10:49] <christiane> strabes: I can't format it when it doesn't exist, do I?
[10:49] <Duesentrieb> levander: kruler for kde...
[10:49] <firebird619> Where is KDE installed to when installed via the kubuntu-desktop package? I am trying to install KDEnlive and it asks for where KDE is installed.
[10:49] <christiane> jon_: What is the "disks" utility?
[10:49] <foo> I'm having a little issue with grub. Basically, I took hard drives and put them in a new system weith new proc/mobo/RAM. I got into a live cd and corrected fstab and the menu.lst for grub. I replaced all /dev/hda with /dev/hdb .. since before the change I was on hda, but now hdb. Now, everything works fine. However, grub takes about a minute to load and show the operating systems. I'm thinking I need to change something there but I don't ...
[10:49] <foo> ... know what exactly, any ideas?
[10:49] <jon_> christiane:  if you can see it in gparted then you could format it
[10:49] <levander> Duesentrieb: I'd rather not install all the kde libraries, is there one for gnome?
[10:50] <Duesentrieb> very likely
[10:50] <levander> "apt-cache search ruler" only shows up kruler
[10:50] <jon_> christiane:  are you using gnome?
[10:50] <ub12> I am trying to put ext2 onto an external 80G usb harddrive and it is taking forever does anyone have anytips to speed it up?
[10:51] <jon_> ub12 try different drivers
[10:51] <Duesentrieb> levander: google sais: http://directory.fsf.org/all/gnome-screen-ruler.html
[10:51] <christiane> jon_: Does that matter?
[10:51] <h0ndaracer2>  i got a little problem during installation it says Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):how do i setup the first part where it says i.e.
[10:51] <ub12> jon_ how do I do that? I am just using mkfs
[10:51] <christiane> jon_: I'm using bash right now.
[10:52] <jon_> christiane:  no nor really but the tool i was talking about is in gnome
[10:52] <jon_> christiane:  if you are running kde than you would use a different tool
[10:53] <levander> Duesentrieb: any idea what package that application is in?
[10:53] <Duesentrieb> levander: doesn't seem to be in the repos
[10:53] <levander> damn
[10:53] <matt_____> can someone walk me through setting up an extra hard drive to automount?
[10:53] <tarzan_> hi... i'm wondering.. gtk2/qt apps seem really unresponsive and slow compared to windows on my athlon 2000... is the cpu just to slow for today's linux widget libs or am i doing something wrong?
[10:53] <ub12> h0ndaracer2, just type "/usr/lib/mozilla"
[10:54] <jon_> matt_____ are you using gnome or kde
[10:54] <matt_____> gnome
[10:54] <christiane> jon_: I can't believe it. I created a fs with `parted` and now the device extsts.
[10:54] <h0ndaracer2> it dont work
[10:54] <fiveiron> anyone using lirc?
[10:54] <h0ndaracer2> even tho that is the location
[10:54] <Duesentrieb> levander: http://www.google.com/search?q=gruler+deb
[10:55] <wuman> Hi somebody knows arstechnica.com? its a technology news blog, like slashdot, but i would like to be sure that information provided by arstechnica are reliable, anybody read this site everyday?
[10:55] <jon_> matt_____ you could use a nautilus script (in kde you would just right click and say automount)
[10:55] <h0ndaracer2> it says its not a directory
[10:55] <matt_____> are you saying i should give kde a try?
[10:55] <jon_> matt___ no not if that is all you want to do
[10:55] <strabes> matt_____: in gnome you can go to system -> preferences -> removable drives and media
[10:55] <itsmabus> When I boot up my system according to the tutorial on encrypting root/swap with dm-crypt.. it says that /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz cannot be found. What should I do? I believe it's preventing me from entering my password correctly, because I can't enter it in to decrypt the drives and I'm sure it's the right password (I JUST finished encrypting them)
[10:56] <jon_> matt___ let me look for something to help you
[10:56] <matt_____> so where would i find such a script? ah, but the disk is internal
[10:56] <Duesentrieb> levander: http://www.filewatcher.com/b/ftp/<IP_ADDRESS>/pub/ubuntu/kitty/pool/dapper/gruler.0.0.html
[10:56] <strabes> matt_____: so it's always plugged in?
[10:56] <matt_____> yes, its mounted, i just don't want to have to mount it everytime i restart manually
[10:57] <strabes> matt_____: is it always plugged in? you should be able to put it in your /etc/fstab then
[10:57] <matt_____> i looked into that, but it looked confusing
[10:57] <strabes> matt_____: that's the only way to do it
[10:57] <strabes> what is the location of the drive
[10:57] <WhiteRabit> this is probably a really simple question but its killing me..... why does my ubuntu machine fade to black after 10 minutes or so? I have the screensaver and powermanagment turned off........
[10:57] <jon_> matt___ use Gnome-volume-manager
[10:57] <drkm> where can I go to add more fonts?
[10:57] <strabes> matt_____: sdb something or other
[10:57] <matt_____> i was going to give it a try, but i was wondering if i accident'y placed it in the wrong place, if it would mess up everything.
[10:58] <jon_> matt___ use  Gnome-volume-manager to auto mount in gnome
[10:58] <strabes> matt_____: if your x server breaks you can always still edit files using a virtual terminal or by using the failsafe grub option
[10:58] <h0ndaracer2> i get this wat am i doing wrng Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): home/h0ndaracer2/usr/lib/mozilla     WARNING: /home/h0ndaracer2/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux/home/h0ndaracer2/usr/lib/mozilla is not a directory.
[10:58] <strabes> matt_____: using nano instead of gedit
[10:58] <matt_____> does /dev/hdb sound right?
[10:58] <strabes> matt_____: yes, that's the most likely place
[10:58] <jevangelo> ubuntu sparc allows you to install using the lamp install option right?
[10:58] <matt_____> so
[10:59] <matt_____> what do i want to ADD to fstab?
[10:59] <jon_> matt___ if x breaks you could use nano, vi, or emacs to edit the files
[10:59] <strabes> jon_: i just said that :)
[11:00] <jon_> I lag :(
[11:00] <jon_> I lag on irc - it is a sad day
[11:00] <strabes> matt_____: you're going to want to add a line that says something like "/dev/sdb /media/nameyouwant ext3 defaults 0 0"
[11:00] <strabes> matt_____: and you'll also have to "sudo mkdir /media/nameyouwant"
[11:01] <matt_____> ok, i used nano instead of gedit, it loks a whole lot simpler
[11:01] <matt_____> oh, i already have it at /home/matt/data
[11:01] <strabes> matt_____: to save files in nano, use ctrl + o, and to exit use ctrl + x
[11:01] <strabes> matt_____: you already have /home/matt/data made?
[11:01] <matt_____> yes
[11:02] <strabes> then change the /media/nameyouwant in the fstab line i wrote to /home/matt/data
[11:02] <slicky_> i have retard computer it likes to play stupid game all time
[11:02] <strabes> matt_____: what is it formatted to?
[11:02] <matt_____> what do i type for option?
[11:02] <strabes> matt_____: i mean what filesystem is it
[11:02] <matt_____> its ext3
[11:02] <strabes> ok
[11:02] <jevangelo> does ubuntu sparc 6.06 give you an option for a lamp server?
[11:03] <strabes> matt_____: /dev/sdb /home/matt/data ext3 defaults 0 0
[11:03] <ubun> ugh, ok so i enable backports and install flash9 and it fixes all my sound movies, great, PROBLEM is now X keeps crashing and like big time crashing where i cna't even ctrl+alt+backspace out, i have to hit the reset button :/. i want to move my important data to /media/hda1 and burn from my windows partition but it wont let me copy, says it's a read-only file system. any ideas?
[11:03] <matt_____> and what is the defaults and 0   0 doing?
[11:04] <strabes> matt_____: never mind about those, just put them in there
[11:04] <ace> i'm back
[11:04] <strabes> matt_____: what does sudo fdisk -l return?
[11:04] <matt_____> ok, im going to save, and restart to test it, if i just do ctr alt backspace, will that work?
[11:05] <strabes> matt_____: no you'll have to restart your computer. don't do it yet though
[11:05] <strabes> matt_____: i want to make sure you have the right /dev/ location
[11:05] <kittykitty> i'm having a problem with ubuntu after i moved it from one computer to another, X doesnt find any screens and the error is (EE) No devices detected.
[11:05] <strabes> matt_____: what does sudo fdisk -l return?
[11:06] <matt_____> looks like invalid
[11:06] <matt_____> fdisk: invalid option -- 1
[11:06] <matt_____> Usage: fdisk [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK     Change partition table
[11:06] <fiveiron> anyone?
[11:06] <matt_____>        fdisk -l [-b SSZ]  [-u]  DISK  List partition table(s)
[11:06] <matt_____>        fdisk -s PARTITION           Give partition size(s) in blocks
[11:06] <matt_____>        fdisk -v                     Give fdisk version
[11:06] <matt_____> Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda
[11:06] <matt_____> and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7
[11:06] <matt_____> -u: give Start and End in sector (instead of cylinder) units
[11:06] <matt_____> -b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-byte sectors
[11:06] <strabes> kittykitty: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:07] <matt_____> wait! i think i need to add a 1 at the end of the decice in /etc/fstab
[11:07] <matt_____> sound right?
[11:07] <matt_____> for the partition, not the drive?
[11:07] <strabes> matt_____: probably but you typed the fdisk wrong
[11:07] <strabes> it's an -L not 1
[11:07] <strabes> lowercase L
[11:07] <matt_____> oh, lol
[11:07] <strabes> sudo fdisk -l
[11:07] <strabes> what does that return?
[11:08] <[Relic] > anyone good with disk mount problems of a disk that was divided into sections?
[11:08] <Infeliz> change ur stupid nick matt_____
[11:08] <[Relic] > can't figure out what I need to do to get the 3rd section mounted on my HD
[11:08] <strabes> !ask | [Relic]
[11:08] <ubotu> [Relic] : Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:08] <ace> Hi all
[11:09] <[Relic] > if no one is awake what good is that?  :)
[11:09] <ace> can someone help me with software raid?
[11:09] <strabes> [Relic] : what is the filesystem? and what does sudo fdisk -l return ?
[11:09] <strabes> !raid | ace
[11:09] <ubotu> ace: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:09] <ace> the combined disks are slower than the individual disks
[11:09] <[Relic] > strabes, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37457/   <-   this is what I get when I try
[11:09] <strabes> ace: i know nothing about raid but i thought those sites could help you
[11:09] <matt_____> strabes, here it is.... Disk /dev/hda: 82.3 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[11:09] <matt_____> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders
[11:09] <matt_____> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:09] <matt_____>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:09] <matt_____> /dev/hda1   *           1        9634    77385073+  83  Linux
[11:09] <matt_____> /dev/hda2            9635       10011     3028252+   5  Extended
[11:09] <matt_____> /dev/hda5            9635       10011     3028221   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:09] <matt_____> Disk /dev/hdb: 203.9 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>56 bytes
[11:09] <matt_____> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24792 cylinders
[11:09] <matt_____> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:09] <matt_____>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:09] <matt_____> /dev/hdb1               1       24792   199141708+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:10] <matt_____> Disk /dev/sda: 6 MB, 6799360 bytes
[11:10] <matt_____> 1 heads, 32 sectors/track, 415 cylinders
[11:10] <matt_____> Units = cylinders of 32 * 512 = 16384 bytes
[11:10] <kittykitty> can i suggest pastebin instead of pasting directly into irc?
[11:10] <matt_____>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:10] <matt_____> /dev/sda1   *           1         415        6627+   1  FAT12
[11:10] <ace> I installed it as raid1, should i have picked raid5? for performance?
[11:10] <matt_____> Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
[11:10] <matt_____>      phys=(207, 0, 32) logical=(414, 0, 32)
[11:10] <strabes> matt_____: which is the one you're trying to mount?
[11:10] <ace> !paste > matt_____
[11:10] <wimpies> hi all, I run <IP_ADDRESS>-10-34 and for some reason my sound modules claim missing symbols.
[11:10] <ace> !pastebin > matt_____
[11:10] <[Relic] > I am thinking something went wrong with whatever I used to break up the disk when I originally installed
[11:10] <matt_____> the 200gb
[11:10] <wimpies> My laptop runs 2.6.17-10.33 and has no problems
[11:10] <jhasse> does somebody know a good svn gui program? (rapidsvn does not work)
[11:11] <wimpies> are there know issues ? How should I fix this ? downgrade ? How do I downgrade ?
[11:11] <matt_____> i need to add me a 1 don't i to the /etc/fstab
[11:11] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[11:11] <prower> Hello :> Kind of an off-topic question, but does anyone use Demonoid much here?
[11:12] <SilentDis> demonoid?
[11:12] <SilentDis> !demonoid
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demonoid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <strabes> [relic] : did you format /dev/sda3 as ext3?
[11:12] <prower> SilentDis: It's a torrent site :>
[11:12] <SilentDis> prower: ahhhh
[11:12] <matt_____> do i need to add the 1?
[11:12] <SilentDis> prower:  apprarently, i am clueless on it.  ignorance is bliss!  :D
[11:13] <cafuego_> does it carry Ubuntu torrents?
[11:13] <strabes> matt_____: i don't know. try it and see
[11:13] <noelferreira> i have no audio ouput in edgy amd64 since i installed firefox for 32 bits. i follow this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava. Does anyone knows why?
[11:13] <matt_____> rebooting!
[11:14] <jhasse> does somebody know a svn gui?
[11:14] <[Relic] > strabes, I don't think it is formatted, I oringially thought the program I used to divide it up was doing that and since I wasn't going to use that section till I needed to back up I never checked it
[11:14] <sm0kie_> is debian == ubuntu ???
[11:14] <jrib> jhasse: rapidsvn
[11:14] <sm0kie_> similar?
[11:14] <Moosejaw> whats the keyboard command to take a screenshot?
[11:15] <cafuego_> sm0kie_: Debian is not Ubuntu. They both use .deb format packages.
[11:15] <jrib> Moosejaw: PrintScreen
[11:15] <strabes> [Relic] : ok then sudo apt-get install gparted
[11:15] <strabes> [Relic] : then run sudo gparted &
[11:15] <b08y> Moosejaw: Print button, under GNOME
[11:15] <strabes> then format /dev/sda3 as ext3
[11:15] <strabes> then talk to me
[11:15] <noelferreira> please help!
[11:15] <noelferreira> please help!
[11:16] <noelferreira> i have no audio ouput in edgy amd64 since i installed firefox for 32 bits. i follow this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava. Does anyone knows why?
[11:16] <SilentDis> apparently, exploits for Windows Vista are ON SALE now, some hitting the $20k and up mark.  i think we're all in the wrong business.  O.o
[11:16] <ub12> Moosejaw use the "print Screen" button top right hand corner next to the F12 key
[11:17] <sm0kie_> everybody give me a hip hip cuz im going to install ubuntu now
[11:17] <sm0kie_> :)
[11:18] <kittykitty> thanks strabes
[11:18] <SilentDis> sm0kie_:  welcome to the fold :)
[11:18] <strabes> kittykitty: it worked? cool glad i could help
[11:19] <kittykitty> yeah took 2 reboots cause auto detect broke at both graphic card and monitor :P
[11:19] <strabes> kittykitty: yeah that is a pain sometimes
[11:19] <matt_____> hello? after i rebooted and trying to automount a drive after editing fstab, the drive didn't mount, and i can't mount it manually
[11:19] <strabes> sm0kie_: hip hip
[11:20] <SilentDis> matt:  what are you trying to mount, and what error is given?
[11:20] <[Relic] > strabes, that was the problem, guess it never actually got formatted
[11:20] <matt_____> strabes was helping me, but, im trying to mount a 200gb hard drive (internal), there is no error, it just didn't mount
[11:20] <kittykitty> what command are you using to mount it matt?
[11:21] <strabes> matt_____ kittykitty: he's trying to do it in fstab
[11:21] <strabes> [Relic] : ok so now it's formatted as ext3 right?
[11:21] <matt_____> i edited /etc/fstab
[11:21] <matt_____> yes
[11:21] <Darst> Can someone please help - dire situation - Ubunut wont boot up and i have some digital photos that havent been backed up... diagnosis or at least suggestions on where to start Googling is needed - please
[11:21] <bradley> i am looking for a substitute for the window list for my panel. i want something that just displays icons without words. does anyone know of an applet like this?
[11:21] <SilentDis> matt:  what was the line in /etc/fstab you used, and have you ever got it to mount from a prompt?
[11:21] <Darst> *Ubunut
[11:21] <[Relic] > strabes, yes
[11:21] <kittykitty> goto shell type in "mount <shortname>"
[11:21] <kittykitty> tell us what it says
[11:21] <Darst> *Ubuntu... you can see I am stressed :P
[11:21] <matt_____> shortname?
[11:21] <strabes> [Relic] : ok where do you want to mount it? i would recommend somewhere in /media
[11:21] <SilentDis> Darst:  how far does it get, any errors, what happens exactly?
[11:21] <green_earz> matt_____: dose the machine boot to the command line ?
[11:21] <matt_____> i mounted it in /home/matt/data
[11:22] <kittykitty> in fstab you can give them shortnames instead of /dev/ or /mnt/ directories
[11:22] <matt_____> how....
[11:22] <kittykitty> anyways, just try "mount /dev/devicename" then
[11:22] <matt_____> why...
[11:22] <[Relic] > strabes, already mounted it where I wanted it, however there is a locked lost+found directory on it
[11:22] <strabes> matt_____ needs to figure out where ubuntu is telling him his internal HD is
[11:22] <Darst> SilentDis the boot screen gets about a third of the way along the progress bar and then the logo goes grey, the hdd continues to be accessed (light allmost consgtant) and then nothing... just sits
[11:22] <Moosejaw> do any of you guys routinely use beryl/xgl???
[11:22] <strabes> [Relic] : where did you mount it? do a sudo chmod 777 -R /path/to/it
[11:22] <SilentDis> Darst:  got a live cd sitting around you can throw in and boot from?
[11:23] <strabes> Moosejaw: yes. !ask
[11:23] <strabes> !ask | Moosejaw
[11:23] <ubotu> Moosejaw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:23] <Darst> SilentDis - yup able to boot (takes a really long time) from the CD
[11:23] <SilentDis> darst:  if anything, you can fsck the drive, and/or mount it and back up data at least.
[11:23] <Moosejaw> ?
[11:23] <strabes> Moosejaw: what do you want to know about xgl/beryl
[11:23] <kittykitty> i'm sure there are many manuals that cover the working of fstab but since this is a text based chat, me reading the manual to you is an intellectually bankrupt action
[11:23] <Darst> SilentDis fsck - will google that one...
[11:23] <medic30420> i have a problem with ssh, after doing some updates via apt-get, I can no longer remote into the box from any other computers.  i "ssh user@brokenbox" and get a password prompt, i enter in the correct password and get... Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password).  any help?
[11:23] <Moosejaw> nothing...just wondering if you guys have found it stable enough to run as default.
[11:23] <SilentDis> darst:  it's the file system checker
[11:23] <noelferreira> i have no audio ouput in edgy amd64 since i installed firefox for 32 bits. i follow this howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava. Does anyone knows why?
[11:24] <SilentDis> !fsck | darst
[11:24] <ubotu> darst: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[11:24] <strabes> Moosejaw: if you install it correctly, it is very stable. i hear aiglx is even more stable if your card supports it
[11:24] <matt_____> i added this to fstab /dev/hdb1       /home/matt/data ext3    defaults        0       0
[11:24] <Moosejaw> how do i check if my card supports it?  where can i check?
[11:24] <Darst> SilentDis if I sudo touch /fastboot from the Cd will that avoid the fsck on the hdd boot next time ? (afayk)
[11:24] <strabes> matt_____ and everyone else helping him: matt just needs to know if the /dev/hdb1 is correct
[11:24] <kittykitty> ok matt, goto a shell and type "mount /dev/hdb1" and tell us the specific error
[11:25] <strabes> Darst: i believe so
[11:25] <SilentDis> matt:  try this:  /dev/hdb1 /home/matt/data ext3 defaults,rw,user 0 0
[11:25] <matt_____> so how to i check?
[11:25] <matt_____> try the other without the 1?
[11:25] <SilentDis> Darst:  nope, it won't.
[11:25] <kittykitty> just goto shell and see if you can actually mount the partition first
[11:25] <strabes> Moosejaw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:25] <SilentDis> darst:  it's easy to run manually though.  do you know how many partitions on your machine, or is there just one?
[11:25] <kittykitty> if you can't there isn't any point in rebooting to see if fstab could
[11:25] <Darst> SilentDis OK then... should I be able to see the HDD from the CD boot
[11:25] <Darst> SilentDis just one
[11:26] <SilentDis> Darst:  from a terminal:  sudo fsck /dev/hda1
[11:26] <green_earz> Moosejaw: put the card in the machine and then goto > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/  and see if the is a driver for it
[11:26] <Darst> SilentDis just waiting for it to boot from the CD at the moment...
[11:26] <strabes> matt_____ kittykitty: i would have told him to do that but i thought he knew where it was in /dev
[11:26] <matt_____> hum...now it won't mount. it would mount before i edited fstab
[11:26] <SilentDis> Darst:  understood :)
[11:26] <Darst> SilentDis as soon as I get that done I will let you know what happens :)
[11:26] <kittykitty> matt: Application -> Accessories -> Terminal
[11:26] <medic30420> sorry to repost: how do i disable gssapi-with-mic authentication in ssh?
[11:26] <SilentDis> Darst:  okes.  :)
[11:26] <Darst> SilentDis Many thanks for the advice to date
[11:27] <Darst> Many many thanks
[11:27] <kittykitty> still with me matt ?
[11:27] <wasabi__> hello
[11:27] <SilentDis> Darst:  no worries.  i had a drive die on me recently.  had to go through this myself to get as much data as I could (was about 3 days off my weekly backup job running, heh)
[11:27] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[11:27] <pr3d4t0r> wasabi_!
[11:27] <foureight84> i need some help with gnome-session-properties
[11:27] <foureight84> hi pr3d4t0r
[11:28] <matt_____> kittykitty, it wouldn't mount in shell. it would before i edited the fstab
[11:28] <PenguinAttacks> Hello friends
[11:28] <kittykitty> ok can you tell me the error you're getting when you try to mount it manually please
[11:28] <matt_____> ok
[11:28] <[Relic] > strabes,  thanks for all the help, I just couldn't get it mounted before but since it was only a formatting problem once that was done I was pretty well set, I just wanted to double up on my backup on some important files (DVD and HD) before I install a new version
[11:28] <foureight84> when i add beryl-manager to startup programs, it won't save on the list
[11:28] <PenguinAttacks> is there an easy way to reinstall ubuntu without formatting the harddrive/partition?
[11:28] <Darst> SilentDis if the drive reports ok - should I be able to move the necessary data to my USB drive ?
[11:28] <kittykitty> don't copy/paste the whole thing you just need the pertinant data
[11:28] <pr3d4t0r> Q. What is the default runlevel for Ubuntu Edgy running as a server?  I have it as 2, but most servers I dealt with (non-Ubuntu) say 5.  What's the rationale of running the server in basic multi-user mode instead of full?
[11:28] <matt_____> is it sudo mount ......
[11:29] <foureight84> after i close session properties and run it again, it's not there
[11:29] <pr3d4t0r> Q. (part 2), i.e. runlevels 3 or 5?
[11:29] <SilentDis> Darst:  yes, that's an option... i'd recommend checking the drive right quick to see if anything kicked out in it's logs though
[11:29] <strabes> [Relic] : cool glad i could help
[11:29] <medic30420> penguin attacks, use the text based install, should let you skip that section
[11:29] <[Relic] > off to finish my backing up and then get a new version installed, later all  :)
[11:30] <matt_____> how can i manually try to mount it?
[11:30] <PenguinAttacks> Thanks, I'll google it :)
[11:30] <foureight84> anyone?
[11:30] <florides> hello
[11:30] <kittykitty> you can just type in "mount /dev/hdb1"
[11:30] <foureight84> gnome-session-properties won't save changes i make to the startup programs
[11:30] <SilentDis> darst:  i'd personally mount it and sift through logs first, just to see what is going on
[11:31] <Administrator> foureight84, i believe there is a option to save sessions.
[11:31] <kittykitty> if you have it specified in fstab it'll try to mount it
[11:31] <florides> kann i ask you something?
[11:31] <ace> i'm going to reinstall with another file system, maybe xfs and raid don't work so well
[11:31] <foureight84> yea i turn that on but it still doesn't do it
[11:31] <matt_____> how....what do i do?
[11:31] <ace> bye all
[11:31] <Administrator> foureight84, else try checking out the gnome dotfiles
[11:31] <foureight84> which dotfile in particular?
[11:31] <Administrator> foureight84, or, adding a new options
[11:31] <kittykitty> matt: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[11:31] <matt_____> ok
[11:31] <florides> does anyone know a tool to data recovery?
[11:32] <Administrator> foureight84, dunno, try grep -r keywork *
[11:32] <kittykitty> wait for it to load, then type in "mount /dev/hdb1"
[11:32] <SilentDis> brb all...
[11:32] <fiveiron> anyone at all using lirc?
[11:32] <bluefox_> ok, has anyone ever heard of an issue with booting the ubuntu installer/live cd and getting an interrupt error wben you click the run /install button?
[11:32] <PenguinAttacks> <33333
[11:32] <foureight84> okay
[11:32] <foureight84> i will be back
[11:32] <bluefox_> my gf's comp is messed up and wont accept ubuntu :(
[11:33] <matt_____> thats weird, at first it told me only root could do it. then i tried again using sudo. but it told me the dir doesn't exist
[11:33] <kittykitty> bluefox_: have you tried booze ? :P
[11:33] <aSherwood> hola peoples
[11:33] <SNowborn> hi
[11:33] <kittykitty> matt: ok thats what i wanted to hear
[11:33] <bluefox_> kittykitty, if only that would work :D
[11:33] <SNowborn> can someone help me setting up a twinview / 2nd monitor?
[11:33] <bluefox_> hrm
[11:33] <bluefox_> how do i ssh into a knoppix machine to take off stuff from the hard drive?
[11:33] <matt_____> so what do i do kitty?
[11:34] <bluefox_> or a machine running an old version of knoppix?
[11:34] <SNowborn> tried some so far by the howto, but still does not work
[11:34] <kittykitty> matt: can you try "mount /dev/hdb1 /home/matt/data"
[11:34] <aSherwood> hey I had a couple of questions... installed ubuntu 6.10 last night and I set up a screensaver on it for 5 minutes, but no matter how long you leave it idle the screensaver doesn't come on... any ideas how I could find out why?
[11:34] <matt_____> sudo it though, right?
[11:35] <matt_____> once again, it "doesn't exist"
[11:35] <SNowborn> just one monitor, when i start another server with gdmflexiserver, just the other screen turns on
[11:35] <kittykitty> ok, "cd /home/matt"
[11:35] <kittykitty> ls and see if your "data" directory is listed
[11:36] <michael> irc.station51.net
[11:36] <matt_____> not sure whats happening, it does nothing
[11:36] <matt_____> sorta
[11:36] <kittykitty> it just pop up a new prompt line?
[11:36] <kittykitty> try ls -la
[11:36] <matt_____> yes
[11:36] <kittykitty> it'll say "total 0" if there are no files
[11:36] <matt_____> i can cd /home
[11:37] <SNowborn> anyone good in xorg.conf? (twinview? :P )
[11:37] <kittykitty> well looks like we found your problem? no /home/matt/data directory ?
[11:37] <djjason> I am having a problem with xrandr. I can rotate the screen...e.g. to the left...but the resolution does not change so the screen becomes useless....any ideas?
[11:37] <matt_____> not sure, i can see it in nautalis
[11:37] <pr3d4t0r> Q. vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-amd64-generic - that's what I was running from Dapper, vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic - that's what it "upgraded" for Edgy.  How can I tell Edgy to install the AMD kernel instead?  Thanks in advance.
[11:38] <kittykitty> you might be being fooled by nautalis, ls while in /home
[11:38] <brucedes> I want to install ubuntu onto an external usb drive, but it won't properly partition it. Installation always crashes at 15% Anyone know what I should do?
[11:38] <l3mr> !tell pr3d4t0r about generic
[11:38] <l3mr> !generic
[11:38] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[11:38] <matt_____> i did, it showed up MATT, meaning matt is there, but i can't cd /home/matt
[11:39] <pr3d4t0r> l3mr: Thanks.
[11:39] <kittykitty> well these are case sensitive
[11:39] <kittykitty> try "cd /home/MATT"
[11:39] <matt_____> well
[11:39] <aSherwood> would someone have a minute to help me with an install of Edgy?
[11:39] <SilentDis> quick question:  ide drives appear as /dev/hd*, do sata drives appear differently?
[11:39] <matt_____> its not really upercase, i just showed emphasis
[11:39] <kittykitty> oh
[11:40] <cafuego_> SilentDis: Yes, they appear as scsi drives, /dev/sd*
[11:40] <Slart> SilentDis: mine appear as sda1, sda2 etc
[11:40] <SilentDis> thanks cafuego_ :)
[11:40] <pr3d4t0r> l3mr: Interesting.
[11:40] <matt_____> but, you say its case sensative? because data is Data, if i change the fstab, should it work?
[11:40] <Slart> well.. what cafuego said =)
[11:40] <kittykitty> perhaps
[11:40] <SNowborn> aSherwood: what is the prob?
[11:40] <matt_____> because i just did cd /home/matt/Data, and it worked
[11:40] <pr3d4t0r> l3mr: Given that my server has four cores, should I assume that this will use all four if a multi-threaded app hits it?
[11:40] <kittykitty> but can you "cd /home" then "cd matt" ?
[11:40] <aSherwood> set up the screensaver for 5 minutes, but no matter how long you leave it on, it doesn't come on
[11:40] <kittykitty> ok
[11:40] <l3mr> pr3d4t0r: yes, smp is enabled in generic
[11:40] <aSherwood> ps reveals that the screensaver service is running
[11:41] <matt_____> no, just comes up blank
[11:41] <kittykitty> well try "mount /dev/hdb1 /home/matt/Data"
[11:41] <pr3d4t0r> l3mr: Cool - thanks.
[11:41] <aSherwood> so I'm afraid that's the extent of my troubleshooting ability here
[11:41] <kittykitty> if you "pwd" it'll show you your current working directory, if you're not sure if the cd is wrking you can "pwd" before and affter issuing the command to see if it changed
[11:41] <matt_____> it mounted
[11:41] <kittykitty> congrats
[11:42] <kittykitty> so now i must club you with the "SHIFT and CAPS" keys of doom
[11:42] <matt_____> but i want it to automount, if i edit fstab and make it Data, should that do it?
[11:42] <SNowborn> checked all the boxes in the settings screen for screensaver?
[11:42] <kittykitty> it should, if you set it to auto in the fstab
[11:42] <aSherwood> All the ones I know how to check
[11:42] <aSherwood> all the ones in the Screensaver dialog
[11:43] <matt_____> auto?                                             /dev/hdb1       /home/matt/data ext3    defaults        0       0
[11:43] <aSherwood> is there another place to edit screensaver settings?
[11:43] <ryanakca> why doesn't my sudoers file give root access to the pbuilders only to the builders group? http://dpaste.com/3836/
[11:43] <wimpies> matt____ : auto,defaults
[11:43] <kittykitty> :P
[11:43] <matt_____> should defaults be auto?
[11:43] <wimpies> no defaults is not auto
[11:43] <matt_____> i mean, do i TYPE auto,defaults
[11:43] <foureight84> hi again
[11:43] <wimpies> yes you do
[11:44] <kittykitty> you can if you want
[11:44] <matt_____> lol, but will it make it WORK?
[11:44] <foureight84> so gnome-session startups still won't save the modifications i add to it
[11:44] <SNowborn> aSherwood: hm, guess not
[11:44] <wimpies> should
[11:44] <dafan> Gah, after I upgraded beryl my screen lost the window decorations.
[11:44] <SNowborn> was still checking in energy settings, but nth related to scrsaver
[11:44] <dafan> It's worked perfectly fine since hte upgrade.
[11:44] <aSherwood> also there are some menus where settings don't stick
[11:45] <wimpies> btw : does any of you know if I can download previous package versions ?
[11:45] <aSherwood> for instance, when in Nibbles, if I try to turn sound on, close the window, open it again and sound is off..
[11:45] <SNowborn> like where?
[11:45] <foureight84> anyone?
[11:45] <SNowborn> hm, no clue there....
[11:45] <aSherwood> even though the sound works fine throuh XMMS, etc
[11:45] <wimpies> I need to downgrade from <IP_ADDRESS>-10.34 to 2.6.17-10.33
[11:46] <gnomefreak> wimpies: good luck on that. since the kernel version didnt change all you will find is 34 most likely
[11:46] <gnomefreak> wimpies: nvidia issues?
[11:46] <dafan>
[11:47] <wimpies> gnomefreak : no my snd_hda_intel claims missing symbols
[11:47] <wimpies> nvidia is running fine
[11:47] <kittykitty> did you manually build your alsa drivers?
[11:47] <dafan>
[11:47] <SNowborn> aSherwood: hm, screen stays all the same?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> thats a first.
[11:47] <DrMushroom> #join
[11:47] <aSherwood> yup
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Sakarias_: please stop with the chars
[11:47] <wimpies> hmm, that is a good question ... could be ...
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ack
[11:47] <gnomefreak> dafan: stop with the chars please
[11:48] <gnomefreak> wimpies: give me a minute i know who to ask but not sure if hes here
[11:48] <gnomefreak> wimpies: hes not on right now but he would know about it
[11:48] <wimpies> gnomefreak : who ?
[11:48] <florides> ho all
[11:49] <florides> you know a data recovery tool?
[11:49] <SNowborn> aSherwood: sorry, not any furtger clue right now
[11:49] <gnomefreak> jdong i found him i just pinged him
[11:49] <aSherwood> s'ok, SNowborn
[11:49] <SNowborn> anyone help on my twinview prob?
[11:49] <aSherwood> I gotta go now to make the LUG meeting tonight... thanks for your help
[11:50] <aSherwood> even if you can't help it's nice to ask a question in a linux support room and not hear "RTFM" over and over again
[11:50] <SNowborn> :D
[11:50] <dooglus> I've uninstalled the 'usplash' package, but I still see the splash when I boot, and my virtual consoles still get corrupted.  how can I disable the boot-time graphics?
[11:50] <aSherwood> anyways bye everyone
[11:50] <christiane> Hello again. Is the pkg "xorg-fglrx-driver" the open source one or the binary from ati?
[11:50] <wimpies> gnomefreak : it looks as if my alsa-base package is available for upgrade so I presume I did not change my alsa\
[11:51] <dooglus> christiane: I believe that's the proprietary driver
[11:51] <kittykitty> dooglus, do you have a boot manager that is using splash ?
[11:51] <Fozzie> silentdis, Evening.  Need that link for the ATI FGLRX installation again.  I had to backpedal a bit when my installation of Beryl didn't work out
[11:51] <dooglus> kittykitty: boot manager?  I use 'grub' if that's what you mean
[11:51] <kittykitty> does your grub.conf include a bootsplash image?
[11:52] <slyboots_> Hi
[11:52] <paranoia16> thank you all for helping me automount my hard drive!!!
[11:52] <kittykitty> if so, try removing it so it loads in text mode
[11:52] <gnomefreak> wimpies: try updating it might help
[11:52] <christiane> (I was a little confused because its name begins with xorg-...) What do I have to install if I want to use the open driver?
[11:52] <Fozzie> SilentDis basically, the Direct Rendering is back at No again, and its reading Mesa Drivers
[11:52] <paranoia16> man, i never had this much free help in windows!!!!!!
[11:52] <dooglus> kittykitty: there's no grub.conf on my disk
[11:52] <aleka> I am usinh Ubuntu 6.10. All off a sudden my ;shift; keys seems to have stopped working. it works when i am holding shit and selecting multiple items, but i can not use shift while typing... the only settings i was tinkering with was beryl manager... what happened/what did i do wrong//
[11:52] <kittykitty> menu.lst ?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> dont hold me to that (im not much of a sound guy)
[11:52] <wimpies> gnomefreak : I did an apt-get update / upgrade but there is nothing available
[11:52] <wimpies> gnomefreak : loading modules is not sound ...
[11:53] <gnomefreak> wimpies: the couple of people i just asked dont know either
[11:53] <kittykitty> it'll be in the /boot/grub/ directory (or your / (root) if you didn't specify a seperate boot partition)
[11:53] <SilentDis> fozzie:  heya :)  what vid card are you running again?
[11:53] <hujciwdupe> what do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???
[11:53] <Ka[R] aN>
[11:53] <Ka[R] aN> sessiz olun lan
[11:53] <gnomefreak> crimsun_: you busy by chnace?
[11:53] <Fozzie> SilentDis, Its the ATI Radeon 200m
[11:53] <nevron> karan ahahaha
[11:53] <nevron> nooldu sinirin mi bozuldu :D
[11:53] <ryanakca> why doesn't my sudoers file give root access to the pbuilders only to the builders group? http://dpaste.com/3836/
[11:53] <Ka[R] aN> bam aryo
[11:53] <dooglus> kittykitty: the word 'splash' appears in that file, yes
[11:53] <nevron> :)
[11:53] <Fozzie> silentdis if i recall, the link had something about Binarydriver
[11:53] <Ka[R] aN> nevron
[11:53] <wimpies> hmm I just did an update/upgrade on my laptop and there the snd modules load ... ;-(((
[11:53] <nevron> ?
[11:54] <kittykitty> dooglus put a big # infront of that line
[11:54] <SilentDis> fozzie:  oh, i remember you :)  change it back over to the right one again.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Ka[R] aN: english in here please
[11:54] <Ka[R] aN> gnomefreak Turkish in here please
[11:54] <slyboots_> Its a ISO file mounted via Loopback on my drive, When I attempt to open the DVD with VLC, it Segfauls (error 4) :(
[11:54] <SilentDis> fozzie:  not sure what caused it to just jump to the mesa one though ...
[11:54] <SNowborn> twinview probs, help anyone?
[11:54] <Ka[R] aN> dodummu blerim bee
[11:54] <kittykitty> i had same problem with my laptop using intel chipset and grub's bootsplash would corrupt image till i got bakc into X
[11:54] <florides> data recovery tool?
[11:54] <Ka[R] aN> Evet.
[11:55] <Ka[R] aN> naslm ama nevron
[11:55] <florides> is ther anyone who is t familiar with?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> kaptengu: keep it english in here
[11:55] <Ka[R] aN> Yoksa beni beenmiyormusunuz
[11:55] <ryanakca> that's turkish
[11:55] <ryanakca> !tk
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <Fozzie> SilentDis well, i tried to uninstall Beryl (it was taking 100% cpu) but when i did, it removed my desktop entirely so i had to go through the prompt at bootup.  WIth my limited knowledge, i deleted the xonf and restored the backup but for some reason that also removed the Direct Render
[11:55] <SilentDis> turkish is... tu or tr i thought
[11:55] <christiane> !tr
[11:55] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:55] <Darst> SilentDis sorry dropped connection
[11:55] <ryanakca> kk
[11:55] <Darst> SilentDis just registering nick
[11:56] <SilentDis> darst:  no worries :)
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: gone
[11:56] <SilentDis> fozzie:  ahhhh
[11:56] <ryanakca> oops... that was supposed to be /msg
[11:56] <SilentDis> fozzie:  just reset it.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:57] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: he knew english
[11:57] <ryanakca> gnomefreak: he did? heh
[11:57] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:57] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: he also knew wrong channel ;)
[11:57] <ryanakca> :)
[11:57] <gnomefreak> thats why i stopped warning him
[11:57] <ryanakca> lol
[11:58] <gnomefreak> hello rob :)
[11:58] <hujciwdupe> what do i need to do to get the dos2unix command to work???
[11:58] <ryanakca> hey rob
[11:58] <ryanakca> why doesn't my sudoers file give root access to the pbuilders only to the builders group? http://dpaste.com/3836/
[11:58] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: does it ever?
[11:58] <EmxBA> can someone help me with ubuntu wiki?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> ryanakca: i dont think ive ever needed root in pbuilder
[11:59] <christiane> I installed xorg-driver-fglrx. `fglrxinfo` tells me something about "mesa3d.org", not "ATI Corp.". Is that right?
[11:59] <nevron> it is not
[11:59] <vampira> I need linux Ati Radeon drivers??
[11:59] <vampira> ubunto radeon?
[11:59] <hujciwdupe> its been like that for a while i think
[12:00] <jesse> Well my ati radeon graphics card has worked ever since i installed ubuntu


[00:21] <ubotu> New bug: #144699 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[gutsy] nvidia driver not loaded by default after upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144699
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #48074 in gok (universe) "gok gives an X Window System error (dup-of: 58600)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48074
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180270 in xorg (main) "Can't disable 640x480" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180270
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #180277 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (universe) "Please promote openchrome to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180277
[13:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180343 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "ATI driver update causes Display Corruption" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180343
[16:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180374 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "/dev/input/mice duplicates synaptics communication and makes configuring synaptics impossible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180374
[17:05] <ubotu> New bug: #179515 in xorg (main) "X crashes while upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179515
[17:32] <ubotu> New bug: #179334 in xorg (main) "[hardy] pointer disappears after display in sleep" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179334
[18:15] <ubotu> New bug: #180398 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "xvideo causes contrast/blocking issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180398
[18:39] <tjaalton> bryce: I asked pitti to promote vmmouse and openchrome to main, so we can test them with alpha3
[18:44] <bryce> ok cool
[18:46] <bryce> I've done a  pkill -9 fetchmail  - there was some fetchmail process hanging around
[18:53] <bryce> oops, mischannel :-)
[19:29] <tjaalton> heh
[19:55] <tedg> Okay, I upgraded my laptop to Hardy... not good.
[19:55] <tedg> It seems when ever I have the synaptics driver in my xorg.conf my mouse no longer moves.
[19:55] <tedg> I've played with it a bunch, but I can't seem to get the two happy together.
[19:57] <tedg> The only thing that is a little odd is this: "(**) Synaptics Touchpad: doesn't report core events"
[19:57] <tedg> It seems that, in theory, it should report core events.
[19:57] <tedg> Or is that done through another interface and the synaptics driver only handles the "extra" events?
[20:19] <tjaalton> tedg: did you upgrade or install from scratch? I mean is the xorg.conf the same as before?
[20:19] <tedg> Well, it was.  But the nvidia driver won't load, so I had to switch it to "nv".
[20:19] <tedg> Other than that it's the same.
[20:19] <tedg> Oh, I guess I didn't answer the question: upgrade :)
[20:19] <tjaalton> heh, ok
[20:20] <tjaalton> I don't have a touchpad on any of the laptops in my possession, so can't help there much :/
[20:21] <tedg> Yeah, I'm guessing it's a synaptics driver issue.  I think it must be disabling the movement parts of the touchpad.
[20:22] <tedg> The funny part is that if I comment out "AlwaysCore" I get the touchpad working in a fixed position mode like a tablet.
[20:22] <tjaalton> the driver hasn't changed much, so probably it just doesn't work right with xserver 1.4
[20:23] <tjaalton> mjg59 promised to look at it though ;)
[20:23] <tedg> :)  So, should I file a bug then?
[20:24] <tjaalton> I think there's a dupe
[20:25] <tedg> The other thing that's interesting is that when the nvidia driver failed I didn't get any reasonable fallback.
[20:25] <tjaalton> check the log
[20:25] <tjaalton> I'd just like to know why it failed :)
[20:26] <tedg> I got "get-edid is not installed" and that 'does not know how to configure the "shared/default-x-server doesn't exist" X server'
[20:26] <tedg> It didn't fall back to nv or vesa on it's own.
[20:26] <tjaalton> oh
[20:26] <tedg> Oh, the reason it failed is that it couldn't load the kernel driver.
[20:26] <tedg> Which seems to be because my computer won't boot with the -386 kernel, but only the -generic one, but I'm unsure of what that means.
[20:27] <tedg> (and why their symbols would be different to the point of not loading the nvidia driver)
[20:27] <tjaalton> hmm, so it installed the -386 flavor by default?
[20:28] <tjaalton> ahahaa, failsafeDexconf needs an update (lots of debconf keys gone now) :)
[20:28] <tedg> I'm guessing, but it does seem to exist in the modules directories... I'm kinda confused on that right now.
[20:29] <bryce> the get-edid warning is non-harmful.  I need to figure out how to suppress that
[20:30] <tedg> bryce: I was looking for it, it's not in a supported package -- so that'd be a good thing :)
[20:32]  * tedg is dying without right click...  must find external mouse...
[20:39] <tjaalton>     # Discard stderr, which is text data about the card
[20:39] <tjaalton>     get-edid 2>/dev/null
[20:40] <tjaalton> before that there is 'is_installed get-edid "retrieve EDID" || return 1'
[20:53] <tjaalton> bryce: I'll merge xorg/xorg-server/mesa for alpha3, so if you have pending stuff queued up, let me know
[20:54] <tjaalton> I'll fix failsafeDexconf to always use "xorg" as the xserver, like the real dexconf does
[20:55] <bryce> ok
[20:55] <bryce> I don't have anything for mesa; I chucked the work I was doing on it since I never got it working properly
[21:01] <tjaalton> ok
[21:02] <ubotu> New bug: #178718 in xorg (main) "Gain root shell when X broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178718
[22:30] <ubotu> New bug: #175436 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Hardy LiveCD fails to identify nVidia 8400M GS on Sony Vaio SZ" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175436
[23:17] <tjaalton> hum, no need to merge xorg-server, so I'm done for the day
[23:17] <tjaalton> bye!
[23:35] <bryce> cya
[23:35]  * bryce continues to struggle with libdrm
[23:35] <bryce> I wish Intel would do their packaging better, it's such a pita