[05:37] <Corey> krazykit: thanks man
[05:37] <krazykit> Corey: but it'll require playing with your xorg.conf :-P
[05:38] <sweetnjguy29> nosklo:  you can, if you have all your files in a seperately partitioned home directory
[05:38] <nosklo> that means I have to reinstall? is it impossible to upgrade using the CD?
[05:38] <void^> jacquesmerde: swapoff
[05:38] <revmouse> Geheimnis, blacklist the current driver and use ndiswrapper, I made instructions at the bottom of the URL I formerly posted
[05:38] <Corey> Frogzoo: IGP 340M
[05:38] <Corey> krazykit: no problems
[05:38] <andy101> for some odd reason "update-manager -d" shows 6.06, but without it doesn't, is it safe to use it with -d?
[05:38] <DShepherd> nosklo: you should be able to
[05:38] <nosklo> I remember putting a breezy CD on a hoary install, and it asked if I wanted to upgrade
[05:38] <jacquesmerde> void^: waxon? waxoff?
[05:38] <Corey> Frogzoo: RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M]
[05:38] <nosklo> so this doesn't work anymore?
[05:38] <DShepherd> andy101: yeah
[05:39] <Geheimnis> revmouse: thanks, I'll try it out. good job by the way
[05:39] <DShepherd> nosklo: it should
[05:39] <revmouse> Geheimnis, thanks! :D
[05:39] <Deep6> DShepherd: I figured out my problem, it was my proxy server with a content filter (dansguardian) not allowing the bz2 files to be downloaded
[05:39] <eyequeue> nosklo, there is no reason to need a cd to upgrade, it's just a couple of commands
[05:39] <NoUse> andy101 have you clicked the 'check' button and see if it shows up without the -d
[05:39] <DShepherd> Deep6: kool, happier now?
[05:39] <nosklo> eyequeue, but I dont have broadband on the machine to upgrade
[05:39] <TheMadman> any advantage of getting the server install over the desktop?
[05:39] <andy101> noUse: yes, several times
[05:40] <christo_> can anybody help with this?  http://tinyurl.com/qdgwn
[05:40] <nosklo> DShepherd, and which CD should I use to it? desktop or alternate?
[05:40] <eyequeue> TheMadman, tweaked kernels
[05:40] <Frogzoo> Corey: does it mention ATI anywhere?
[05:40] <NoUse> andy101 it should be safe to you use -d
[05:40] <Corey> Frogzoo: yes
[05:40] <krazykit> Corey: mind if i pm you real fast?
[05:40] <andy101> NUse: Thanks
[05:40] <Corey> ATI Technologies
[05:40] <Corey> krazykit: no problems
[05:40] <DShepherd> nosklo: i would say go for the alternate.
[05:40] <Frogzoo> Corey: need a model number
[05:40] <nosklo> TheMadman, yes, there are server packages on the CD like apache so you dont have to download them
[05:40] <BitNinja707> thanks everyone
[05:41] <TheMadman> rubs going server thanks
[05:41] <Corey> Frogzoo: RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M]
[05:41] <draven_> drav
[05:41] <jacquesmerde> void^: swapoff -a skeips my actual swap partition. i cant work out the correct command
[05:41] <samu> Nothing happens when I press the "check" button
[05:41] <Frogzoo> Corey: pretty sure that's not the vid card model no
[05:42] <Corey> Frogzoo: its radeon...
[05:42] <Frogzoo> samu: maybe the repos are out to lunch...
[05:42] <Corey> radeon igp 340m
[05:42] <Frogzoo> Corey: radeon which?
[05:42] <samu> Frogzoo, think so?
[05:42] <void^> jacquesmerde: `cat /proc/swaps` lists active swap partitions/files. swapoff /dev/whatever to deactivate.
[05:42] <lefty_2nd> Could someone who has experiance with running ubuntu as a "live cd" with usb drive to store settings please pm me - having little luck  with forums atm, laggggy...
[05:42] <Corey> Frogzoo: Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 330M/340M/350M (RS200 IGP)
[05:42] <bundzoot> can anyone help me i used to have windows2000 and had problems with it so i changed to ubuntu but i am finding it hard to use how do you install anything it is just showing everything in folders
[05:42] <samu> A dialogue says it's checking the repos.
[05:42] <rredd4> repos are probably getting hit hard today
[05:42] <jacquesmerde> void^: aaahhh! thanks man!
[05:42] <Xylene> is there anyway to make Xorg on the desktop live cd run in 16bit mode? 24bit is SUPER SLOW on this neomagic chip
[05:43] <nmsa> Happy Birthday Dapper!
[05:43] <TheMadman> know if ati 9550 and evil 9200 cards are successful too corey?
[05:43] <Katu> is there anyway to make my linksys network card run with ubuntu?
[05:43] <valle> HELLO
[05:43] <Corey> TheMadman: this is a really old graphics card on board shared memory..
[05:43] <eXistenZ> !ati
[05:43] <ubotu> somebody said ati was http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[05:43] <bur[n] er> !tell Katu about hardware
[05:43] <jacquesmerde> void^: cat /proc/swaps gave me NOTHING!
[05:43] <eXistenZ> !repos
[05:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:44] <Frogzoo> !tell Corey about fglrx
[05:44] <TheMadman> nice thank you ubotu
[05:44] <Hobbsee> !msgthebot
[05:44] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:44] <Frogzoo> Corey: follow the instructions ubotu sent you to install the fglrx driver
[05:44] <Hobbsee> !tell eXistenZ about msgthebot
[05:44] <TheMadman> i had trouble with hoary is all
[05:44] <void^> jacquesmerde: what makes you think you have active swap?
[05:44] <tubbie> !wine
[05:44] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux. Get the latest .deb from http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/ or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[05:44] <Xylene> is there anyway to make Xorg on the desktop live cd run in 16bit mode? 24bit is SUPER SLOW on this neomagic chip
[05:44] <Diiba> Hi'gain
[05:44] <saif> azureus says that i am behind a firewall, how do i open a port on ubuntu for azurues to work?
[05:45] <sweetnjguy29> saif:  are you sure its ubuntu and not your router?
[05:45] <Crane> Hello!
[05:45] <Celestar> hmm
[05:45] <Crane> It's Dapper Day
[05:45] <dapper> Hi
[05:45] <xet7> How can I get Ubuntu Dapper to automatically get all updates (even unsigned) and install allways automatically on background, without clicking anything?
[05:45] <krazykit> saif: you do it on your router.  google for port forwarding
[05:45] <jacquesmerde> void^: i dont think its active. its currently a fat32 partition. but when i try to use gparted to format it to swap, it says its already mounted. it used to be a swap partition on this 'buntu system before i accidently reformatted
[05:45] <Crane> So do we answer Dapper quaetsion in her today
[05:45] <dapper> I am trying to upgrade from Breezy, and according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades I can use update-manager.
[05:45] <mwe> Crane: yes
[05:45] <Crane> yes you can
[05:45] <Hobbsee> Crane: yep
[05:46] <siimz> hi im trying to install ubuntu on my pc and television using my radeon 8500 svideo output, and the refresh rate of the default install is over 60hz which wont display on my television, does anyone know a way around this?
[05:46] <Crane> cool
[05:46] <NoUse> xet7 look into the apt-get man page and look into how to use cron
[05:46] <sybariten> on Damnsmalllinux, when booting, i get US keyboard. I get my swedish characters by exiting X and doing loadkeys se-latin1. This seems to affect the whole system. Isnt there something similar i can do on Ubuntu??
[05:46] <Frogzoo> !tell dapper about torrent
[05:46] <dapper> But when I run update-manager it doesn't seem to find any updates for me the way this webpage says it will.
[05:46] <sybariten> Coz i dont really like the philosophy of having a specific gnome or xfce keyboard layout ... i want something global
[05:46] <Frogzoo> dapper: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list & swap breezy/dapper
[05:46] <saif> krazykit, i did it on my router i am forwording to the right port and ip, azurues configured for the port, but still says that, could it be because i installed azurues manually? not using dpkg?
[05:46] <Afrodita> yo voy a ahecer impress
[05:46] <mwe> sybariten: you need to configure xorg.conf
[05:47] <sybariten> if i do loadkeys se-latin1 on my ubuntu system, i just get errors in a long loop
[05:47] <fatalblu> sybariten: the folder with the keymaps might not be in the path, try locate se-latin and give loadkeys an absolute path
[05:47] <krazykit> saif: that has nothing to do with it.
[05:47] <dapper> Frogzoo, Oh okay.  That page doesn't make that clear at all.
[05:47] <Celestar> I wish apt-get was SMP-aware
[05:47] <sybariten> fatalblu: got that sir
[05:47] <fatalblu> sybariten: erm you are going a sudo loadkeys, just to be clear of course
[05:47] <Spec> Where's the breezy channel?
[05:47] <mwe> Celestar: what do you mean?
[05:47] <netgrabber> !dvd
[05:47] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[05:47] <dapper> Is there another URL besides paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 that gives the sources.list changes?  That site won't respond for me.
[05:47] <Celestar> mwe: running things parallel :P
[05:47] <Frogzoo> Spec: right here but shared with dapper now
[05:47] <mwe> Celestar: oh yes
[05:48] <Spec> breezy should be in ubuntu-1 :p
[05:48] <saif> krazykit, so what coult it be? the only thing i c is this, in the past i used to use firestarter to open the port and it worked, some1 told me not to use firestarter, to leave as is better!
[05:48] <sybariten> mwe: yeah, i've read about that, but it just feels so weird to alter the keyboard settings in a file related to the window manager, instead of the whole system
[05:48] <bundzoot> how do i? install java
[05:48] <sybariten> fatalblu: hm, good question
[05:48] <Grimtharr> How do I move to the "etc" location in Terminal when I'm in my home folder?
[05:48] <jacquesmerde> void^: ?
[05:48] <Katu> can anyone please help me make my network wireless card  WPC54G (Ver.4) work
[05:48] <fatalblu> heh
[05:48] <gil> alright....i have been trying with no sucess....
[05:48] <mwe> Celestar: I don't think apt will allow more than one process to lock for safety reasons, so it probably rather difficult to implement safely
[05:48] <bbrazil> Grimtharr: cd /etc
[05:48] <Xylene> is there anyway to make Xorg on the desktop live cd run in 16bit mode? 24bit is SUPER SLOW on this neomagic chip
[05:48] <gil> i have a toshiba m40x....i cant for the life of me get the Card reader to pick up an inserted card
[05:49] <gil> anyone?
[05:49] <saif> Katu, i got mine to work
[05:49] <jdmpike> man, I totally hosed freenx when I installed dapper....
[05:49] <bbrazil> bundzoot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java
[05:49] <jdmpike> doh!
[05:49] <saif> Katu, not sure if i can help u if u face real difficulties!
[05:49] <Celestar> mwe: yes I kind of agree :)
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> dapper: sudo sed -ie "s/breezy/dapper/" sources.list && grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list (should all say dapper)
[05:49] <sybariten> fatalblu: euhm, as embarassing as it is, that was probably the reason loadkeys gave me an error ... i forgot sudo. However, i get a positive response now, but nothing seems affected!  still a US layout in the terminal
[05:49] <krazykit> gil: i hear those integrated card readers always give trouble.
[05:49] <bundzoot> thanks bbrazil
[05:49] <void^> jacquesmerde: look at `mount` and `cat /proc/mounts`
[05:49] <Yorgos> can i ask
[05:49] <Yorgos> sth about xchat?
[05:49] <dapper> h3sp4wn, Thank you!
[05:50] <armedking> Is there a way to look for unused installed packages and remove them. ie. when installing something it installes deps but when removing the main package the dependancys remain
[05:50] <fatalblu> sybariten: there might be a keymap config somewhere in gnome that'll fix it
[05:50] <nahtical> I'm downloading dapper right now, and wish to install it alongside windows. I know I will need to create a main and swap partion, but what would I need to name them? (Or is it explained during install?)
[05:50] <h3sp4wn> dapper: If you have any unofficial repositories you should remove them
[05:50] <fatalblu> sybariten: can't check myself, i'm on a crummy fedora 5 box at work
[05:50] <fatalblu> 800x600 you are not a pleasure
[05:50] <dapper> h3sp4wn, I don't but thanks.
[05:50] <mwe> sybariten: I think ubuntu uses consolechars in place of loadkeys
[05:50] <Yorgos> can i use a TCL i am using in my eggdrop in my XChat?
[05:50] <Celestar> I wish my gnome displayed more than just a grey background
[05:50] <jacquesmerde> void^: i already tried that. no mention of the partition
[05:51] <fatalblu> nahtical: if you mean a letter name, you don't. it does it another way
[05:51] <Frogzoo> !tell Celestar about themes
[05:51] <Yorgos> Frogzoo,
[05:51] <Yorgos> can i use a TCL i am using in my eggdrop in my XChat?
[05:51] <orangehaw> Help wanted: my toshiba M60-171 with resolution 1440x900 (wxga) produces startup sounds but no screen
[05:51] <Frogzoo> Yorgos: ask the channel
[05:51] <Yorgos> i did lol
[05:51] <Yorgos> nobody answered:P
[05:51] <void^> jacquesmerde: use fdisk
[05:51] <krazykit> Yorgos: irc is not instant reply chat.
[05:52] <dapper> h3sp4wn, What is the grep part of that command supposed to do?
[05:52] <Geheimnis> revmouse: thanks, it works !
[05:52] <spikeb> it's also not snarky retort chat, either.
[05:52] <jacquesmerde> void^: fdisk is a bit hardcore for me. can i stick with cfdisk?
[05:52] <fatalblu> irc is multiplayer notepad!
[05:52] <nahtical> fatalblu: so basically the installer will do most of the dirty work for me, more or less all i have to do is make sure it isnt asking me something crazy and click yes/next
[05:52] <Grimtharr> Hmm, apparently I do not have the permission to edit a file in my etc folder. How do I get permission?
[05:52] <dapper> I get "sed: -e expression #1, char 15: unterminated `s' command"
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> dapper: strip out comments
[05:52] <kspath> Yorgos: among those in #ubuntu what percentage do you think uses Xchat or eggdrop or TCL?
[05:52] <Diiba> Do the dapper dance :))
[05:52] <DShepherd> kspath: we dont know
[05:52] <Yorgos> that's why i asked in case someone knows
[05:52] <fatalblu> nahtical: yeah it should even have an option to resize the windows partition if you need it, if not then just chose the use free space option
[05:52] <bbrazil> Grimtharr: sudo the-edit-command
[05:52] <void^> jacquesmerde: don't know, i've always used fdisk
[05:52] <Grimtharr> thanks bbrazil
[05:52] <nahtical> fatalblu: ok thanks
[05:53] <jacquesmerde> void^: Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed.  Reboot to update table.
[05:53] <jacquesmerde>                  Toggle bootable flag of the current partition
[05:53] <fatalblu> Diiba: i did the dapper dance, i almost got banned for it heh
[05:53] <dapper> h3sp4wn, But I just want to change all references of "breezy" to "dapper" in that file?
[05:53] <Diiba> :)
[05:53] <void^> jacquesmerde: that's normal if the disk is in use at all (any partition on the disk)
[05:53] <h3sp4wn> dapper: Thats to check whether it has been done
[05:53] <dapper> h3sp4wn, None of it changed.  But I can edit it with nano or something.
[05:53] <jacquesmerde> void^: sweet. i think its working sudo cat /proc/swaps
[05:53] <jacquesmerde> Filename                                Type            Size    Used    Priority/dev/hda5                               partition       1132540 0       -1
[05:54] <void^> jacquesmerde: you can try `blockdev --rereadpt` or just reboot
[05:54] <ocult> where i report something ?
[05:54] <fatalblu> there is no nano, there is only... vim
[05:54] <ocult> ?
[05:54] <void^> jacquesmerde: yes, type of partition doesn't matter anyway for using it
[05:54] <jra> no spoon, just fork()
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> dapper: sudo sed -ie "s/breezy/dapper/" /etc/apt/sources.list (unless you are already in /etc/apt/
[05:54] <sybariten>
[05:54] <sybariten> fatalblu: mwe : ok
[05:54] <runes> is /usr/share the default directory where all local users have read/write access?
[05:55] <jacquesmerde> void^: well, it wasnt using the swap partition before. is that the appropriate output from /proc/swaps?
[05:55] <jra> runes: no
[05:55] <bbrazil> h3sp4wn: I don't think that'll do what you think it'll do. -i can take an argument
[05:55] <nm> mi name is dis noelia
[05:55] <Celestar> hm
[05:55] <Frogzoo_away> runes: nope - /tmp
[05:55] <Noah0504> Okay, Dapper has been released, but why aren't there any upgrades for us that are using the betas or RC?
[05:55] <void^> jacquesmerde: yes
[05:55] <Celestar> Frogzoo_away: I mean I ONLY see a grey screen
[05:55] <Celestar> :P
[05:55] <dapper> h3sp4wn, Thank you!
[05:55] <nm> wat you name
[05:55] <jacquesmerde> void^: sweet
[05:55] <krazykit> Noah0504: if you updated about 24 hours ago, there shouldn't be any updates, as it was frozen about that time
[05:56] <runes> ok where would I look in the ubuntu manuals to find the default folders created and what they are for?
[05:56] <jacquesmerde> waxon, waxoff. swapon, swapoff
[05:56] <jra> runes: man hier
[05:56] <fatalblu> runes: default folders? where?
[05:56] <Noah0504> krazykit: haha, I got excited about nothing!
[05:56] <bbrazil> runes: try the File Hierarchy Standard
[05:56] <runes> ty!
[05:56] <Frogzoo_away> runes: you want to google 'linux standard base'
[05:57] <azurehuesofblue> what is the bash command to show hidden files?
[05:57] <runes> ok
[05:57] <Weasel-> Ubuntu rocks
[05:57] <carrasco> hello
[05:57] <bbrazil> azurehuesofblue: ls -a
[05:57] <Hobbsee> azurehuesofblue: ls -la
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> dapper: sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper' -i /etc/apt/sources.list (that is definately correct because I have just tested it)
[05:57] <dr_willis> azurehuesofblue:'  ls -a' you mean?
[05:57] <fatalblu> azurehuesofblue: ls -la hidden files begin with a .
[05:57] <azurehuesofblue> cool thanks.
[05:57] <kspath> azurehuesofblue: hidden?  man ls ?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:57] <trainer> hi, I just upgraded to Dapper but all my repositories in synaptic still say 5.10 - shouldn't they be 6.06?
[05:57] <dapper> h3sp4wn, I did the previous command and I think it worked.
[05:58] <tRSS> hi all. congrats on the release of drapper drake!
[05:58] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone send me the ATi driver link?
[05:58] <dr_willis> !ati
[05:58] <mwe> !ati
[05:58] <ubotu> I heard ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[05:58] <dapper> trainer, Do what h3sp4wn just told me to do.
[05:58] <tRSS> i would like to know how I can apt-get to drapper drake without reinstalling?
[05:58] <kane77> how can I merge two partitions together?? when I tried PartitionMagic (in win) i got some error message about something not being on the right place and two options fix or fix later I chose fix later as I wasnt sure what it is... but now it doesnt show my disk at all... (it shows just my first disk...) so how can i merge them (both are ext3)
[05:58] <tuxtheslacker> thanks!
[05:58] <dapper> trainer, in a terminal do: sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <Corey> im back
[05:58] <Corey> and it had a blue screen of death
[05:58] <tRSS> hey Corey!
[05:59] <Corey> tRSS: hi..
[05:59] <Xylene> is there anyway to make Xorg on the desktop live cd run in 16bit mode? 24bit is SUPER SLOW on this neomagic chip
[05:59] <tRSS> so how can I update to dapper drake without reinstalling?
[05:59] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[05:59] <JoeyB3> Hwy Corey!!
[05:59] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[05:59] <dapper> Do I have to use synaptic or can I use the update-manager?
[05:59] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody know anything about google earth for linux?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> !tell tRSS about update
[05:59] <Celestar> ubotu: NIS
[05:59] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Celestar
[05:59] <bbrazil> tRSS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[05:59] <MetaMorfoziS> !googleearth
[05:59] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[05:59] <dr_willis> MetaMorfoziS:  i hear the cedega people are working on it.
[05:59] <fatalblu> tRSS: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the references of breezy to dapper
[05:59] <Elops> If I download the source CDs of ubuntu is it faster to add stuff using apt-cdrom ?
[05:59] <dapper> Because update-manager seems to tell me I should use synaptic or apt-get dist-upgrade.  But the webpage says I can use update-manager.
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> who shit!
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> somehow this is saying I'm using 95% of my diskspace...
[06:00] <ohzie> How many people updated last night and broke their systems other than me?
[06:00] <bbrazil> Elops: the source CDs contain source code, so I don't think you want those
[06:00] <ohzie> I'm trying to see if updating broke it, or if something else broke it.
[06:00] <tRSS> thanks alot ! :)
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> /dev/hda7             2.1G  1.9G  102M  95% /
[06:00] <carrasco> algum brasileiro??
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> it apparenlty partitioned wrong....
[06:00] <bbrazil> !br
[06:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:00] <fatalblu> tuxtheslacker: lol
[06:00] <Celestar> how do I enable a NIS client ?
[06:00] <kspath> !tell carrasco about br
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> shite!
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> hahahaha!
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> not a nice realization.
[06:00] <andrejkw> Hey Guys
[06:00] <tuxtheslacker> shit!
[06:00] <MetaMorfoziS> dr_willis: and when it comes out?
[06:00] <bbrazil> Elops: as for whether cds are better, that's a matter of your net connection
[06:00] <ohzie> !news
[06:01] <tuxtheslacker> maybe partition magic will fix it?
[06:01] <tuxtheslacker> :-/.
[06:01] <andrejkw> I installed XGL and Compiz, and now nobody can connect to my Remote Desktop. How can I fix this?
[06:01] <northcol> I would like to try the latest version of amaroK on Ubuntu. I saw there is a .deb package for Kubuntu. Is it safe to try to install it on normal Ubuntu (Dapper Drake)?
[06:01] <fatalblu> tuxtheslacker: i saw that earlier when i was partway through a debmirror of dapper
[06:01] <Elops> isnt there a ubuntu+1 channel?
[06:01] <trainer> dapper, sed: -e expression #1, char 15: unterminated `s' command
[06:01] <bbrazil> northcol: yes
[06:01] <bbrazil> Elops: not at the moment
[06:01] <fatalblu> tuxtheslacker: logcheck started SCREAMING at me
[06:01] <kane77> how can I merge two partitions together?? when I tried PartitionMagic (in win) i got some error message about something not being on the right place and two options fix or fix later I chose fix later as I wasnt sure what it is... but now it doesnt show my disk at all... (it shows just my first disk...) so how can i merge them (both are ext3)
[06:01] <Corey> krazykit: ???
[06:01] <ohzie> When my xserver is disabled, how do I re enable it?
[06:01] <revmouse> Elops, I think its shut down until edgy eft repositories open up
[06:01] <northcol> bbrazil: Thanks for the fast reply!
[06:01] <Elops> oh ok
[06:01] <Corey> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:02] <bbrazil> kane77: copy data from B to A, delete B, expand A to take up B's space. This is a non-trivial task, backup your data first
[06:02] <revmouse> Elops, which will be sometime mid-june
[06:02] <saif> any ideas how i change the port for gnomebittorrent?
[06:02] <fatalblu> anyone here use rTorrent?
[06:02] <Led_Zeppelin> hello, I am currently running Debian, and would like to try Ubuntu. Is it possible to install it without a CD?
[06:02] <dmb062082> Ubunto wont let me select a res higher than 800x600, not sure where this came from, as I have higher options selected in xserver-xorg configuration files, and frankly am going on a 2nd install onto a bigger partition, same pc and I was fine before.. any0ne? =(
[06:02] <Led_Zeppelin> spikeb: :-)
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> trainer: sudo sed -e 's/breezy/dapper/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list (he missed out the final slash) then check with grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:03] <spikeb> Led_Zeppelin, i dont think so
[06:03] <spikeb> Led_Zeppelin, love your nick btw :)
[06:03] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, you can
[06:03] <Led_Zeppelin> similar to bootstrapping it.
[06:03] <Xylene> so creative :/
[06:03] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, ever used debootstrap?
[06:03] <andrejkw> I installed XGL and Compiz, and now nobody can connect to my Remote Desktop. How can I fix this?
[06:03] <ocult> where i get skype?
[06:03] <fatalblu> Led_Zeppelin: you can try pointing apt at the ubuntu sources, good luck with that though i'd probably backup first
[06:03] <alanhs> I have a problem booting from the installation CD. agpgart seems to hang - I know this has been a problem, has anyone had similar experence ???
[06:03] <PrimoTurbo> !dapper
[06:03] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[06:03] <kane77> bbrazil, but i thought of something without the backup... the one i'd like to merge is / (root about 6GB)... the second one is empty about 1.4
[06:03] <Led_Zeppelin> lastnode: yes, heard of it, but got the image for it?
[06:03] <lastnode> !skype
[06:03] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[06:03] <krazykit> Corey: still?  sheesh.  best i can tell you know is to use dpkg to reconfigure your xserver, but i honestly don't know the command.
[06:03] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[06:03] <ubotu> hmm... xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:03] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, debootstrap has a breezy script. so use that, and then dist-upgrade to dapper
[06:03] <saif> ocult, from the skype website, i got it, it doesn't work though :S
[06:03] <ompaul> cheers Hobbsee
[06:03] <Led_Zeppelin> lastnode: ha! simple as that?
[06:03] <ocult> un
[06:03] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, debootstrap 0.3.3 has a breezy script
[06:04] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, i think so :)
[06:04] <dmb062082> Other than this i AM DOING FINE.... but I cant select a higher rez and this problem came out of no wher
[06:04] <bbrazil> kane77: then you're going to have to slowly move and expand I'm guessing
[06:04] <dmb062082> led zeppelin rocks! Nice handle
[06:04] <fatalblu> so I says NO WAY! that'll cost you 20 dollars...
[06:04] <Led_Zeppelin> hmmm, I kinda don't want to reiun m debian
[06:04] <Corey> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:04] <Led_Zeppelin> dmb062082: :-)
[06:04] <chmod775> I am having problems with the power manager
[06:04] <kane77> bbrazil i guess i'll do it.. thanx
[06:04] <Led_Zeppelin> man, I want to try Ubuntu just because of this channel, everyone is friendly as hell here....proally hippies :-)
[06:04] <lastnode> Led_Zeppelin, install it on a new partition
[06:04] <fatalblu> peace and love man
[06:04] <Led_Zeppelin> lastnode: looks like, thats what I am doing
[06:04] <chmod775> doesnt work
[06:04] <lastnode> more love than a bus full of hippies
[06:05] <dapper_drake_ins> morning
[06:05] <jra> flowers, anyone?
[06:05] <lastnode> dapper_drake_ins, morning
[06:05] <fatalblu> Led_Zepplin Ubuntu Dapper: Now it's Elitism-Free!
[06:05] <dapper_drake_ins> I have an install issue
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> Led_Zeppelin: You can debootstrap dapper straight off
[06:05] <Elops> I have Ubuntu and no Internet connection. (now doesn't count ;) I wonder if I would solve my dependencies problems (I always need lib this and that...) if I would just get all the Debian CDs and add them into Synaptic. Is this software compatible with Ubuntu? Should be, ah?
[06:05] <Led_Zeppelin> i hate that word 'elite'
[06:05] <lastnode> spread the drake
[06:05] <lastnode> dapper_drake_ins, hit us with it!
[06:05] <fatalblu> Elops oh god no
[06:05] <trainer> dapper, I got it, thanks!
[06:05] <Celestar> ok
[06:05] <fatalblu> Elops: no no no
[06:05] <Celestar> konsole now crashed 3 times in 60 seconds
[06:05] <dapper_drake_ins> I'v dl'ed the ISO, burned it and I get corrupted liblang*.deb package
[06:05] <fatalblu> Elops: BAD idea
[06:05] <dapper_drake_ins> ....I have burned it twice
[06:06] <dapper_drake_ins> during install
[06:06] <Elops> ?
[06:06] <fatalblu> dapper_drake_ins probably a bad iso then, check the md5s
[06:06] <paulproteus> dapper_drake_ins, I have a corrupted vim on my DVD burn.
[06:06] <dmb062082> Ubuntu wont let me select a rez higher than 800x600, not sure where this came from, as I have higher rez options selected in xserver-xorg configuration files, and frankly am going on a 2nd install onto a bigger partition, same pc, and I was fine before.. anyone? =(
[06:06] <dmb062082> please
[06:06] <bego> hrtea
[06:06] <paulproteus> dapper_drake_ins, If you're crafty, you can get the text installer to a network install like I did.
[06:06] <bego> hello
[06:06] <h3sp4wn> Led_Zeppelin: get http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2_all.deb (install it with dpkg -i) then you can debootstrap dapper direct
[06:06] <dapper_drake_ins> I did the CD check thing and they are corrupted
[06:06] <Elops> fatalblu, why not?
[06:06] <dapper_drake_ins> whats the probability the image I DL'ed is corrupt?
[06:06] <glxblt> Is the old installer still available on the desktop image?
[06:07] <bego> hello
[06:07] <fatalblu> Elops: because it'll probably break everything, i found that out the hard way
[06:07] <jra> Elops: debian is not ubuntu, it just won't work
[06:07] <snowblink> dapper_drake_ins, did you md5 it?
[06:07] <bego> wat'n  your name
[06:07] <muszek> dapper_drake_ins: check md5
[06:07] <bur[n] er> glxblt: no, that's what "alternative" is
[06:07] <dapper_drake_ins> yes, I assume its going to fail
[06:07] <paulproteus> dapper_drake_ins, It could be corrupt.
[06:07] <bego> how
[06:07] <chmod775> I am facing problems with gnome power manager anyone has a fix for this. The icon does'nt change when I switch from AC to battery and vice versa. So, if I am on battery and still it shows the charging icon and then when the battery power is almost zero it shuts off without warning. Any help on this would be appreciated
[06:07] <Hobbsee> bego: this is a suppor channel.
[06:07] <paulproteus> You should try running bittorrent on your image.
[06:07] <Hobbsee> bego: this is a support channel.  It is not a social channel
[06:07] <paulproteus> Bittorrent will fix any broken chunks without having to redownload the whole thing.
[06:08] <dapper_drake_ins> hmm
[06:08] <Elops> Ubuntu and Debian are NOT binary-compatible?
[06:08] <bego> tenihau
[06:08] <bbrazil> Elops: no
[06:08] <dapper_drake_ins> ...interesting idea
[06:08] <spikeb> elate, indeed
[06:08] <paulproteus> Elops, They're not dependency-compatible.
[06:08] <jra> Elops: their packages are not
[06:08] <Celestar> binary compatible?
[06:08] <bbrazil> Elops: i.e. not compatible
[06:08] <bego> flipinoutttt
[06:08] <dapper_drake_ins> thanks
[06:08] <chmod775> I am facing problems with gnome power manager anyone has a fix for this. The icon does'nt change when I switch from AC to battery and vice versa. So, if I am on battery and still it shows the charging icon and then when the battery power is almost zero it shuts off without warning. Any help on this would be appreciated
[06:08] <visik7> but  they are source compatible
[06:08] <Celestar> that's not really the corrent term
[06:08] <paulproteus> At least, there's no guarantee of dependency compatibility.
[06:08] <chmod775> Any one facing problems with power manager
[06:08] <ohzie> Hello! My x-server broke! :) The error is..."Fatal server error: No screens found."
[06:08] <bego> thanks
[06:09] <glxblt> I can't change the resolution to anything else than 640x480 on the live-cd. xorg.conf shows that my monitor and display driver is being detected correctly, however ctrl+alt+numpad+/- don't do nothing.
[06:09] <Celestar> hell
[06:09] <Celestar> the yp server timeout is loooooooooooong
[06:09] <tubbie> where is ld.so.conf??
[06:09] <glxblt> also, the screen resolution -menu shows only 640x480 and refresh rate "-19579 Hz" :p
[06:09] <Celestar> (Waiting for 120 seconds now)
[06:09] <salman> bego: equals baka??
[06:10] <xiko> Is paste.ubuntu-nl.org|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80 offline?
[06:10] <tubbie> how do I add a lib dir to ld?
[06:10] <tubbie> !ld
[06:10] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tubbie
[06:10] <neoncode> Will ubuntu work with a SpeedTouch 330 ADSL Modem out of the box?
[06:10] <tubbie> !ldconfig
[06:10] <ubotu> tubbie: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:10] <paulproteus> Celestar, Yeah, it's a really really long time.
[06:10] <bbrazil> tubbie: /etc/ld.so.conf
[06:10] <bbrazil> tubbie: then run ldconfig
[06:10] <paulproteus> Celestar, You can probably ^C it.
[06:11] <chmod775> !power
[06:11] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod775
[06:11] <glxblt> /n
[06:11] <glxblt> oopsie.
[06:11] <Elops> ubuntu drives me mad, u have to d/l even the basic package for compiling for source. i mean, what's the point of linux if u can't even compile?
[06:12] <Celestar> paulproteus: I just wish too tell it to get NIS information via DHCP
[06:12] <bbrazil> Elops: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:12] <xiko> Hmm how can I be sure what version of Ubuntu am I using?
[06:12] <eigenlambda> there is no torrent for the dapper cd?
[06:12] <Shaezsche> ubuntu is dead to me if it cannot recognize my modem
[06:12] <stasislove> how do i do to load a module when ubuntu starts up? it loads wrong module and i have to write modprobe -r nvidia, and then load right module, how can i make int load right module rightaway?
[06:12] <fatalblu> Elops: browsing the web, writing documents, image editing, etc etc
[06:12] <dmb062082> Ubuntu. will not let me select a higher res then 800x600! added higher options in xserver-xorg
[06:12] <Shaezsche> linmodem.com doesnt even recognize it. is there any way?
[06:12] <tubbie> the file is not there
[06:12] <tubbie> :\
[06:12] <WarOfAttrition> you often need more than just build-essential, get the -dev packages that you need
[06:12] <bbrazil> Shaezsche: add it to /etc/modules
[06:12] <tubbie> !vmware
[06:12] <ubotu> Please check this out, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare adjusting kernel versions to your own, to get the number replace the numbers with " `uname -r" The ` is a Backtic
[06:12] <alanhs> !archive
[06:12] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, alanhs
[06:12] <fatalblu> statislove: add the module name to /etc/modules
[06:12] <Shaezsche> bbrazil, but how do i know what to add?
[06:12] <xiko> !version
[06:12] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type ''lsb_release -a'' in a terminal.
[06:12] <Shaezsche> it isnt even recognized
[06:13] <bbrazil> stasislove: ^
[06:13] <xiko> gotta love this bot ;D
[06:13] <FunnyLookinHat> !m4a
[06:13] <ubotu> FunnyLookinHat: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:13] <bbrazil> Shaezsche: oops, bad tab completion
[06:13] <Dkt> Is there any player that can play Winamp-Streams (Now I mean Video-streams, not audio). I have tried winamp itself (it hang itself up) and VLC doesnt view any picture, but do play sound. Any other program?
[06:13] <csko> i downloaded, booted ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso, how can i start expert mode?
[06:13] <fatalblu> mplayer?
[06:13] <ohzie> !upgrade
[06:13] <ubotu> methinks upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[06:13] <bbrazil> tubbie: then create it
[06:13] <Kiko0123> hello what is the difference btween desktop and alternate .iso ?
[06:13] <fatalblu> real men don't need a computer or irc client, they just chew on network cable
[06:13] <bbrazil> Kiko0123: alternate is a text-only installer
[06:13] <Kiko0123> altername = installation cd and desktop = live ?
[06:13] <salman> Dkt: maybe you have no codec available?
[06:14] <bbrazil> Kiko0123: all of them are live+install aiui
[06:14] <salman> look at properties
[06:14] <Kiko0123> humk
[06:14] <stasislove> fatalblu, there is a module there calld nvidia but its wrong, and i tried to write whole path there to the right module but it didt work, i suspect nvidia module is a link linked to wrong module, but where do  i find nvidia ?
[06:14] <MrKeuner> csko/ experts do not ask much questions :)
[06:14] <Dkt> salman, Probably.
[06:14] <Kiko0123> humk...why did they changed the names :P
[06:14] <xiko> hmm update manager says I have the latest version, but it is not Dapper for sure
[06:14] <csko> grr
[06:14] <tubbie> how do I install libcairo compiled with gcc4?
[06:14] <fatalblu> statislove: if you are daring you could rip it out of /lib/modules and put the right one in it's place
[06:15] <salman> Dkt, what is the format/video codec?
[06:15] <csko> how can i install with expert mode if i downloaded the Desktop iso?
[06:15] <Shaezsche> the video player that comes in ubuntu sucks
[06:15] <Dkt> salman, its .m3u
[06:15] <damo21> how do i go from breezy to dapper
[06:15] <another> is there a way to use "global" keyboard shortcuts in rhythmbox? things that would work even if rhythmbox is not in focus?
[06:15] <Grunt> hi, does anyone know if xgl is available for Dapper
[06:16] <stasislove> fatalblu, so nvidia link is in /lib/modules? i can just make a link calld nvidia poiting to right module there cant i ?
[06:16] <MrKeuner> Grunt/ no it is not
[06:16] <krazykit> Grunt: it is.
[06:16] <hypnox> Shaezsche there is more than one
[06:16] <salman> awww. it's a playlist format
[06:16] <kspath> !tell damo21 about upgrade
[06:16] <nosilver4u> i'm dist-upgrading to dapper, and it fails on lvm2 with this message: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lvm2_2.02.02-1ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install):
[06:16] <nosilver4u>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10
[06:16] <Grunt> is there a link for it or can i use apt-get
[06:16] <nosilver4u> any ideas?
[06:16] <EvilGrin> I've upgraded to dapper but my soundcard hasn't been setup correctly. Its a Soundblaster Live. What do I need to do to fix it?
[06:16] <jorgp> damo21: in /etc/apt/sources.list, change everything that says breezy to dapper, then do a apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:16] <salman> look at properties. what is video-codec?
[06:17] <Ademan> if I have dapper beta on this machine, and i've been keeping up with the automatic updates, do i now have dapper full?
[06:17] <Elops> what's the diffrance between edubunto and xubuntu and keubuntu
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> stasislove: You don't want to mess with /lib/modules - install nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules
[06:17] <hypnox> Ademan yes
[06:17] <joachim-n> what is 'breezy-updates repository' called in Synaptic's list?
[06:17] <Ademan> yay
[06:17] <nevchen> Elops,  kubuntu is with kde
[06:17] <frank_> Elops: kubuntu is with kde, xubuntu with xfce and edu is for schools
[06:17] <krazykit> Elops: ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde, xubuntu is xfce, and edubuntu is indended for schools/education
[06:17] <Dkt> salman, It cant find any info about that.
[06:17] <Grunt> Is Ruby on the Rails avaliable for Dapper (a version which is actually compatible)
[06:17] <Ademan> unfortunately pcma isnt working, haha
[06:17] <Howdy125> New partitioner is a nightmare :-o
[06:18] <PPower> jorgp: replace everything to its original and then run something that i will look up for you
[06:18] <Shaezsche> this is no where near as user friendly as windows xp, im sorry but ubuntu is at least 10 years behind winxp
[06:18] <fatalblu> statislove: locate nvidia, look for the object file in /lib/modules replace reboot
[06:18] <tubbie> damnit. I need a kernel compiled with gcc-3.4 :(
[06:18] <tubbie> how?
[06:18] <nevchen> Howdy125,  espresso?
[06:18] <stasislove> fatalblu, allright in /lib/modules in a folder there is the right module, but it is not the one loading, there must be another file somewhere else...
[06:18] <pc22> krazykit, whats cool with xubuntu?
[06:18] <Elops> what makes edubuntu unique?
[06:18] <PPower> tubbie: why?
[06:18] <kneskade> Anyone here who can tell my why my 6.06 desktop install cd fails after the first boot menu on my powermac G4 (agp graphics) (the screen show's nothing, and the cd spins down, and yes i have tryed "live video=ofonly")
[06:18] <jra> is that the same partitioner as with debian testing?
[06:18] <kspath> pc22: try it
[06:18] <Elops> apart that its edu?
[06:18] <fatalblu> Shaezsche: since when is a blue screen of death user friendly
[06:18] <ben42> which ldap-server you would recommend in a small environment? package slapd oder package ultrapossum-server?
[06:18] <issaker> hey all
[06:18] <Ademan> Shaezsche: care to back up your criticism?
[06:18] <tubbie> vmware need cairo2. and cairo2 is compiled with gcc-3.4
[06:18] <Shaezsche> i never see those
[06:18] <tubbie> :(
[06:18] <fatalblu> statislove: dunno, all modules should be in there
[06:18] <issaker> how do i install a package with .run?
[06:18] <stasislove> h3sp4wn, tried that did't work, now i compiled from nvidia.com and it works, but i have to load right module manually
[06:18] <joachim-n> what's the text file for repositories?
[06:18] <Shaezsche> ademan ubuntu doesnt recognize 1/3 of my hardware
[06:18] <PPower> tubbie: dunno
[06:18] <Elops> what makes edubuntu unique?
[06:18] <MrObvious> issaker: Which package?
[06:19] <Shaezsche> i shouldnt have to learn how to compile kernals just to use ubuntu
[06:19] <Howdy125> nevchen, I don't know what it's called .. lol
[06:19] <user1> oola
[06:19] <issaker> this game called tremulous
[06:19] <issaker> Mrobvious
[06:19] <user1> hello alll
[06:19] <nevchen> Howdy125,  desktop-cd or alternative-cd?
[06:19] <MrObvious> Probably the sh command
[06:19] <NoUse> !tell Elops about edubuntu
[06:19] <Ademan> Shaezsche: i havent compiled a kernel ONCE, and what hardware isnt it detecting?
[06:19] <fatalblu> Shaezsche you don't have to, why am I arguing? la la la laa laa laa , laaa lalalala
[06:19] <Shaezsche> well my modem for one
[06:19] <fatalblu> ^smurfs song
[06:19] <Howdy125> nevchen, desktop-cd
[06:19] <issaker> mrobvious the sh command?
[06:19] <rendo> Is Dapper totally pwnt?
[06:19] <Shaezsche> improperly detects graphics, none of the buttons on my laptop work
[06:19] <rendo> I'm burning the iso right now. :b
[06:19] <nevchen> ok it's espresso
[06:19] <nevchen> :-)
[06:19] <Shaezsche> built in webcam doesnt work
[06:19] <user1> <IP_ADDRESS> enter
[06:19] <Shaezsche> sd card reader doesnt work
[06:19] <Shaezsche> among others
[06:20] <salman> dkt: my suggestion is just using mplayer or xine instead of VLC
[06:20] <salman> :(
[06:20] <axisys> i have 5.10.. isee so many procedures for upgrade.. what is the recommnded way to upgrade to dapper
[06:20] <hypnox> Shaezsche contact your laptop manufacturer
[06:20] <PPower> nevchen: no longer. i think its ubuntu express
[06:20] <Dkt> salman, I will try :) Thanks.
[06:20] <fatalblu> http://<IP_ADDRESS> is the best
[06:20] <Shaezsche> why? linux is NEVER officially supported
[06:20] <Ademan> Shaezsche: OH, its a laptop, you know the only reason laptops work under windows is because laptop distrubutors create SPECIALIZED distributions of windows preinstalled on their machines...
[06:20] <PPower> axisys: update your update manager and then choose check
[06:20] <EvilGrin> I've upgraded to dapper but my soundcard hasn't been setup correctly. Its a Soundblaster Live. What do I need to do to fix it?
[06:20] <Shaezsche> its an asus w5a
[06:20] <krazykit> Shaezsche: exotic/brand new hardware?  no surprise there.
[06:20] <salman> mplayer is good about error massage thing
[06:20] <abeck_>  which version of VNC do you guys think is best?
[06:20] <frank_> Shaezsche: two things still are lacking with Linux support: hardware support in cases the manufacturers don't release linux drivers or specs and proprietary software the publisher doesn't port to linux.
[06:20] <PPower> axisys: for updates in the update checker
[06:20] <hypnox> Shaezsche it will be once it starts hurting their sales
[06:20] <fatalblu> abeck_ probably freenx
[06:21] <jra> and that's not even vnc, haha
[06:21] <axisys> PPower: how do i go by update my update manager.. soryy newbie
[06:21] <frank_> Shaezsche: If you buy hardware with linux support in mind. Ubuntu is a dream
[06:21] <fatalblu> jra: i know lol
[06:21] <Shaezsche> it will never hurt their sales
[06:21] <hypnox> Shaezsche not with that attitude!
[06:21] <PPower> axisys: open synaptic and choose the refresh button. then choose mark all upgrades
[06:21] <Shaezsche> well where can i find directions specifically for the w5a to work?
[06:21] <Shaezsche> they dont exist
[06:21] <Madi> hi
[06:22] <JoeyB3> !nvidia
[06:22] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:22] <Madi> any1 from NL here or better rotterdam?
[06:22] <JoeyB3> !irc
[06:22] <ubotu> from memory, irc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage or have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[06:22] <Ademan> Shaezsche: the "w5a" oh yes... of course...
[06:22] <PPower> !upgrade
[06:22] <hypnox> Shaezsche yeah probably not, whatever that is
[06:22] <h3sp4wn> stasislove: what version of nvidia drivers are you trying to install ?
[06:22] <Shaezsche> its an asus laptop
[06:22] <Shaezsche> everyone knows that!
[06:22] <fatalblu> not helping....
[06:22] <avalost> does anyone use a nextel phone / data cable with linuc here?
[06:22] <dontm> hello all, anyone know of a more up to date ubuntu on a laptop resource than tuxmobil?  it's a lil outdated.  any good reviews/info etc would be appreciated.  thanks in advance
[06:22] <gourdin> what is the dapper drake + 1 ?
[06:22] <avalost> err
[06:22] <avalost> linux
[06:22] <Coyctecm> how i can remove usplash?
[06:23] <stasislove> h3sp4wn, 8762
[06:23] <fatalblu> Good news! It's a suppository...
[06:23] <brandon_> happy dapper day!
[06:23] <ompaul> Shaezsche, no they don't, have you got a live CD?
[06:23] <PPower> everyone> to upgrade to dapper type https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades into your browser
[06:23] <yukonho> I've been following that with no success :(
[06:23] <Shaezsche> yes!
[06:23] <hypnox> lol type into browser, welcome to internets
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> stasislove: Thats the exact same one that is in the repos
[06:23] <visik7> Coyctecm: in /boot/grub/menu.lst remove splash from the commandline
[06:23] <WarOfAttrition> you are much better off doing a fresh install
[06:23] <jorgp> gourdin: edgy
[06:23] <Shaezsche> ubuntu is useless without modem support, to me anyway
[06:23] <stasislove> h3sp4wn, repos?
[06:23] <jra> I'm gonna install -server on hppa, just to be unique. :)
[06:23] <Coyctecm> visik7: doesn't work :(
[06:24] <ompaul> Shaezsche, and when you put your CD in does the screen actually come up?
[06:24] <dontm> yukonho: use http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list instead of the source list url in the wiki
[06:24] <gourdin> jorgp: do edgy repo exists ?
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> !nvidia
[06:24] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:24] <jorgp> gourdin: no
[06:24] <visik7> Coyctecm: you need to remove for all
[06:24] <Shaezsche> yes ompaul
[06:24] <gourdin> jorgp: 'k, thx
[06:24] <PPower> h3sp4wn: i had trouble with those nvidia drivers. i would run nvidias script
[06:24] <visik7> or at least for the one you use
[06:24] <dontm> yukonho: just change gb to us if ur in the states
[06:24] <damo21> any advantage in a clean install instead of breezy -> dapper?
[06:24] <ubuntu_vishal> hi there
[06:24] <wobedragg> Anyone care to help me with an issue?
[06:24] <PPower> ok
[06:24] <ubuntu_vishal> no
[06:24] <bbrazil> wobedragg: just ask the question
[06:24] <anto9us> !ask
[06:24] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:24] <fatalblu> only if it's an issue of playboy
[06:24] <Chobo-Mog> Hey.  Could someone please help me with the Ubuntu installation?
[06:25] <kspath> damo21: You get to try the installer?
[06:25] <Chobo-Mog> Whenever I try and install Ubuntu it will always boot, and lead me through most of the installation process without a problem.  It does say that its setting up what seems like an endless list of components, and says [OK]  beside each.  However, after that the screen seems to refresh, and then just freezes on a blank, black screen.
[06:25] <zjohnson> silly question (but I did look at the ubuntu wiki for ans).. Can you just update the ubuntu 6.06beta to the full production dapper drake release?
[06:25] <sladen> Coyctecm: remote 'splash' from the kernel commandline
[06:25] <Chobo-Mog> It might be a compatibility issue with my hardware, since I had the same problem when I tried a friend's old Hoary Hedgehog CD last week, but it could be something completely different.  Any help would be appreciated ^___^
[06:25] <xiko> !disk space
[06:25] <ubotu> xiko: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:25] <hypnox> zjohnson yeah
[06:25] <Ademan> Schaezche: you only have 56k?...
[06:25] <Shaezsche> yes!
[06:25] <PPower> wobedragg: whats the prob?
[06:25] <h3sp4wn> PPower: I never would the binary blobs will be identical - if you need to possibly use module-assistant to rebuild the kernel module
[06:25] <Shaezsche> i live in the woods
[06:25] <Shaezsche> i NEED modem support
[06:25] <wobedragg> k, I was updating from breezy to dapper this morning, and my laptop was unplugged accidentally, I recovered but now I'm stuck here  dpkg --configure -a Setting up samba (3.0.22-1ubuntu3) ...
[06:25] <wobedragg> update-rc.d: warning: /etc/rc2.d/S91samba is not a link to ../init.d/samba or /etc/init.d/samba
[06:25] <wobedragg> update-rc.d: warning: /etc/rc3.d/S91samba is not a link to ../init.d/samba or /etc/init.d/samba
[06:25] <wobedragg> invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/S91samba
[06:25] <wobedragg> dpkg: error processing samba (--configure):
[06:25] <Chobo-Mog> My PC's parts are:  Pentium 3 866mHz, 384mb pc-100 ram, 290gb spread over two hard drives, Audigy 2 ZS, ATI Radeon 7500 64mb and an LG DVD+/-RW drive
[06:25] <wobedragg>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102
[06:25] <zjohnson> hyp: Just do updates as usual, no repo changes or anything?
[06:25] <ompaul> Shaezsche, I just saw your modem comment I point you at getting the actual windows driver for that modem - find out what modem it is by scouring the output of "sudo lshw" and stick the values for the modem into google, when you get it vack
[06:25] <wobedragg> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:25] <Ademan> Shaezsche: ouch...
[06:25] <wobedragg>  samba
[06:25] <chapium> !pastebin
[06:25] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package]
[06:25] <kspath> !tell wobedragg about paste
[06:26] <fatalblu> !tell wobedragg NEVER to do that again
[06:26] <tubbie>  18:26:14 up  6:53,  9 users,  load average: 8.93, 3.32, 1.79
[06:26] <Shaezsche> i cannot ompaul, sudo commands? how would that work on a device not even detected by linux
[06:26] <tubbie> :S
[06:26] <Ademan> wobedragg: don't paste in the channel
[06:26] <PPower> h3sp4wn: the nvidia-glx one killed X permanently. the nvidia ones worked like a dream
[06:26] <PPower> wobedragg: yeah. i got booted off one day
[06:26] <EvilGrin> I've upgraded to dapper but my soundcard hasn't been setup correctly. Its a Soundblaster Live. What do I need to do to fix it?
[06:26] <ompaul> Shaezsche,  so your saying it does not start with the CD?
[06:26] <Shaezsche> vack?
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> PPower: They are identical look at the version numbers
[06:26] <anto9us> Chobo-Mog, detatch unnessary hardware and try disabling some features in the bios such as peripheral ports etc and try again, it may help you isolate the problem.
[06:26] <Shaezsche> i can install ubuntu, it just doestn recognize my modem
[06:27] <PPower> h3sp4wn: I dunno why. but as long as it works ;-D
[06:27] <Shaezsche> at all
[06:27] <dontm> good up to date ubuntu on laptop resource = ?
[06:27] <cara> Hi all
[06:27] <MrObvious> Shaezsche: Is it a winmodem?
[06:27] <Ademan> Shaezsche: what do you mean? download the windows driver on a windows machine, transfer it to your linux computer, find out the info as he said, then google for it and see if theres linux support
[06:27] <JoeyB2> !nvidia
[06:27] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:27] <cara> hmm
[06:27] <dontm> !laptop
[06:27] <ubotu> from memory, laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, or tuxmobil.org
[06:27] <soundray> Shaezsche: Winmodems are the devil's. Get a decent external one.
[06:27] <Chobo-Mog> Ok, I'll give that a shot.  Thank you
[06:27] <OmniD> quick somebody make a trillian clone
[06:27] <jra> Shaezsche: quit it. either get supported hardware or bug the manufacturer to release free specs but don't go blame linux or any distibution for that matter
[06:27] <ompaul> !winmodem
[06:27] <ubotu> [winmodem]  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto for instructions on setting up your modem (including winmodems). Additional info can be found at http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[06:27] <damo21> does the dapper installer have an option for xfce instead of gnome?
[06:27] <Shaezsche> i dont know if its a winmodem!, the linuxant thingy doesnt even recognize it
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> damo21: Use xubuntu
[06:27] <rendo> Is it dialup?
[06:28] <Ademan> jra: he's not really criticizing anymore, its fine, we might as well help
[06:28] <rendo> If so, quit being cheap and get DSL or Cable.
[06:28] <cara> Hmm does anyone use a touchpad?
[06:28] <soundray> Shaezsche: it is a winmodem. Get an external one, or a PCMCIA one if you have to.
[06:28] <nollidj> any advice for an old machine (300 mhz pentium ii) and getting it to be more responsive?
[06:28] <WarOfAttrition> Shaezsche|  you are much better off just replacing it with an external serial modem
[06:28] <yukonho> dontm: thanks, that's all I needed!
[06:28] <MrObvious> rendo: He's only got dialup because he lives too far out in the woods.
[06:28] <damo21> is there a separate iso for xubuntu 6.06? is there such a thing?
[06:28] <rendo> Get Satellite. :P
[06:28] <Grunt> are there instructions for install Xgl on dapper
[06:28] <jra> nollidj: yeah, get rid of gnome.
[06:28] <stjepan> is dapper released?
[06:28] <ompaul> Shaezsche, ask the manfacturer -- fpr the info and I concur with WarOfAttrition
[06:28] <rendo> stjepan Yes
[06:28] <soundray> yes, Grunt
[06:28] <ompaul> stjepan, /topic ;-)
[06:28] <soundray> !tell Grunt about xgl
[06:28] <MrObvious> damo21: What do you mean a seperate ISO?
[06:28] <xiko> jesus i LOVE apt, it is the most amazing thing ever. Thats it, im keeping my old hd for games only. Im ubuntu for work forever now
[06:28] <Shaezsche> well my modem isnt the only issue, it also doesnt properly support the intel 915 integrated graphics
[06:29] <nollidj> jra: hmm, the xfce desktop just isn't put together as well, and this is supposed to be a desktop for people who aren't very computer-literate.  any other suggestions?
[06:29] <rendo> AFK installing Dapper :b
[06:29] <eXIstenZ> Can anyone send me his repos, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 doesn't work.
[06:29] <pike__> damo21: well you can type server at bootup that will just install base and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <Shaezsche> detects it as 815 and gives me all kidns of issues
[06:29] <revmouse> nollidj, try using xubuntu, its an ubuntu system geared to be more lightweight
[06:29] <damo21> thanks pike
[06:29] <nollidj> revmouse: is this a separate distro?
[06:29] <issaker> can someone tell me how to execute a .run package?
[06:29] <gourdin> !kde
[06:29] <Ademan> Shaezsche: like what sort of issues?
[06:29] <PPower> xubuntu found at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[06:29] <dontm> eXIstenZ: : use http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list instead of the source list url in the wiki
[06:29] <nollidj> issaker: it is probably a self-extracting shell script.  try '/bin/sh blah.run'
[06:29] <cara> Was wondering if I could isntall ubuntu from the live cd
[06:29] <kspath> nollidj: generic advice, max RAM and min what is running on it  perhaps no X
[06:29] <Shaezsche> like it says LCD ON every 5 minutes
[06:29] <voraistos> sh xxx.run
[06:29] <damo21> i thought dapper was going to release an xubuntu
[06:29] <hazart> issaker: chmod +x the file and ./<filename> it
[06:29] <ompaul> Shaezsche, the importance of getting supported hardware, however that being said work on one issue at a time, now go find out about your modem
[06:29] <Grunt> Soundray: sorry whats does the !tell mean
[06:29] <revmouse> nollidj, well you can type server at bootup that will just install base and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <Ademan> cara: the dapper live yes
[06:30] <nollidj> hmm
[06:30] <PPower> issaker: just run it like a normal sh. ./(script)
[06:30] <eXIstenZ> dontm, that is for dapper?
[06:30] <dontm> eXIstenZ: : just change gb to us if ur in the states
[06:30] <nollidj> i guess i'll flatten and reinstall, then
[06:30] <Shaezsche> ompaul what is the sudo command?
[06:30] <DBO> !sudo
[06:30] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:30] <dontm> eXIstenZ: yes look at the url, see the word "dapper" in the comments? =-)
[06:30] <soundray> Grunt: it means that I asked the bot to send you a private message. Look around your IRC client, you should see it.
[06:30] <cara> guess I could go ahead an bunr the regular disk to a disk
[06:30] <ompaul> Shaezsche, look I am going to get the bot to message you all the info you want is there
[06:30] <eXIstenZ> dontm, oh yeah :)
[06:30] <damo21> YAYYY Xubuntu 6.06!!!!
[06:30] <revmouse> yay!
[06:30] <Shaezsche> lol
[06:30] <issaker> ppower thanks that did the trick what does sh do?
[06:30] <TheMadman> you can cheat on the live cd and type sudo setuser root
[06:30] <MrObvious> damo21: What do you mean a seperate ISO?
[06:31] <orangehaw> Help wanted: my toshiba M60-171 with resolution 1440x900 (wxga) produces startup sounds but no screen
[06:31] <Grunt> Soundray: brilliant thanks for the link
[06:31] <anto9us> nollidj, you can disable some gnome features such as animations and draw windows while draggin by using configuration editor
[06:31] <eigenlambda> lol... i love torrence...
[06:31] <damo21> MrObvious: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[06:31] <PPower> issaker: sh is a shell that linux uses. a sh is a type of script
[06:31] <nollidj> ugh... is there a non-https access to wiki.ubuntu.com?
[06:31] <tbenita> hi, can upgrade to lts by chaging breezy to lts in the sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:31] <eigenlambda> now, to hope that ubuntu deals with my usb mouse properly
[06:31] <Ademan> the dapper install cd is limping along at 8kb/s (its a torrent too)
[06:31] <DBO> orangehaw, does CTRL + ALT + F1 get you a console?
[06:31] <dontm> tbenita: yes
[06:31] <ompaul> Shaezsche, please don't use that word it is derogatory
[06:31] <orangehaw> DBO: yes
[06:31] <nollidj> anto9us: already done... this is just dog-slow, more or less, and the idea is to change it from fat lazy dog-slow to middle-aged suffering from arthritis dog-slow
[06:31] <axisys> i get this error when running gksudo update-manager but it did not upgrade to dapper .. http://pastebin.com/751596
[06:31] <tbenita> ok thanks dontm
[06:31] <issaker> gahhhhh
[06:31] <hazart> Will, the dapper repository stay "stable" and not upgrade package versions? In other words, should i add any edgy sources to my list?
[06:32] <nzt> sorry bad request
[06:32] <DBO> orangehaw, can you put your gdm and xorg logs on patebin from me?
[06:32] <issaker> ppower, now when i install i get no write permission
[06:32] <anto9us> nollidj, if you can lay your hands on more memory that will make a big difference
[06:32] <KhZillu> whats this SMP PREEMPT kernel?
[06:32] <wastrel> well howdy everybody
[06:32] <stasislove> so if i have a module in a directory, there is no way to start it when ubuntu starts?
[06:32] <nollidj> anto9us: i've already hit this machine's maximum memory capacity
[06:32] <damo21> MrObvious: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/dapper/release/
[06:32] <DBO> orangehaw, can you put your gdm and xorg logs on patebin for me?  (fixed dumb typo)
[06:32] <KhZillu> its the plain i686 but it hast the SMP PREEMPT tag on it.
[06:32] <nollidj> it's the cpu that's killing it, and it's an old laptop
[06:32] <PPower> issaker: what package is it
[06:32] <deus_> is is out?
[06:32] <orangehaw> DBO: there's no way to paste it on pastebin since i have no inet & screen yet ;(
[06:32] <issaker> ppower what do you mean?
[06:32] <Shaezsche> http://www.linmodems.org/ the scan modem tool here is broken
[06:32] <soundray> stasislove: there is -- you could add an insmod command to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[06:32] <anto9us> nollidj, if you have another HD kicking around you could configure a raid 0, that will speed things up
[06:32] <deus_> is dapper released?
[06:32] <hazart> Will the dapper repos. still contain new packages, or will there be a new one for edgy?
[06:32] <nollidj> anto9us: laptop
[06:32] <issaker> ppower its a game called tremulous
[06:32] <PPower> issaker: is it for java or a nvidia package.
[06:33] <nollidj> thanks, though
[06:33] <krazykit> hazart: it'll be fairly stable.  bug fixes and security fixes will be added, and there will be backports eventually.  for right now, there are no edgy repos
[06:33] <nevchen> deus_,  yeah
[06:33] <NoUse> deus_ read the topic
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> stasislove: just add it to the bottom of /etc/modules is the easiest way
[06:33] <dontm> just a fyi to the ops: dapperupgrade wiki page = typos on command lines and the url w/ the source list is down
[06:33] <DBO> orangehaw, ok, do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and when you select the driver, select VESA
[06:33] <PPower> issaker: right. try sudo ./blah.run. enter your password. you need to be in the folder where the run is
[06:33] <stasislove> soundray, i use insmod to start it, but when i reboot i have to do insmod again
[06:33] <MrObvious> Got it damo
[06:33] <orangehaw> DBO: I ran the xserver-xorg for the correct resolution, but nothings happens. Not even errors for as far as I can see
[06:33] <MrObvious> I keep d/cing
[06:33] <krazykit> hazart: edgy won't be started on for a couple weeks yet, i hear.
[06:33] <MrObvious> damo21: I think it's just one ISO for your architecture
[06:33] <soundray> stasislove: read my line carefully
[06:33] <Ademan> Shaezsche: what makes you say that?
[06:33] <antimoof> as http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 is being utterly thrashed, are there any mirrors of that file around?
[06:33] <hazart> krazykit: okay, but if i don't change my sources i will be stuck with gnome 2.14 and the current version apps that i have now?
[06:34] <stasislove> soundray, sorry
[06:34] <wastrel> oh i forgot dapper's out
[06:34] <PPower> issaker: did it work
[06:34] <Shaezsche> say what?
[06:34] <fatalblu> out like a boner in sweatpants
[06:34] <davidhouse> hi guys. how can i get apt to give me a list of the currently installed packages?
[06:34] <dontm> antimoof:  use http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list instead of the source list url in the wiki
[06:34] <Ademan> Shaezsche: that the modem detector is broken
[06:34] <DShepherd> wastrel: forget no more! :-)
[06:34] <damo21> MrObvious: im just really excited because its the first ubuntu release with xfce as a separate release!!! Xubuntu 6.06!!!!
[06:34] <pike__> orangehaw: when you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it should take you through a whole setup asking questions and stuff
[06:34] <to0om> hi folks, a question: why does the battery-panel in dapper always notify me that there are only 3 minutes left although the battery is almost full?
[06:34] <xiko> hmm how many packages to update dapper? right now m in number 195
[06:34] <soundray> Shaezsche: don't say lol when you should be saying thankyou
[06:34] <AlienX> davidhouse, dpkg -l
[06:34] <Shaezsche> oh, because when i dl it, it says the file is corrupt
[06:34] <wastrel> i just want my palm sync to work
[06:34] <DShepherd> damo21: :-)
[06:34] <Shaezsche> winrar wont open it
[06:34] <krazykit> hazart: um, yes... gnome 2.14 is the latest, you know.  you're not really "stuck" with it.
[06:34] <NoUse> davidhouse dpkg -l | grep ii
[06:34] <orangehaw> pike_: I know, did that
[06:34] <Jowi> orangehaw, DBO : if you get sound the xorg.conf should be configured somewhat right. i think it is the framebuffer that is not supported.  if you can, try to disable framebuffer in BIOS or in grub
[06:34] <Ademan> Shaezche: oh... lol
[06:35] <simp> emm... hello
[06:35] <issaker> ppower it says command not found
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> This channel is now about dapper  o.o
[06:35] <xcomputerman> ok, can someone give me a fast mirror? :)
[06:35] <davidhouse> NoUse, AlienX: brilliant, thanks.
[06:35] <krazykit> hazart: if you really want to be on the edge, wait for edgy eft to get it's repos started and migrate to that.
[06:35] <xcomputerman> all of them seem to be crawling.
[06:35] <simp> i have a little question
[06:35] <orangehaw> Jowi: i'll try that
[06:35] <hazart> krazykit: yes, it know, but i would like to have the 2.15.1 whenever it's released, if you know what i mean...
[06:35] <DBO> Jowi, you can also disable it in xserver reconfigure =P
[06:35] <issaker> sudo: ./tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run: command not found
[06:35] <AlienX> davidhouse, np
[06:35] <bbrazil> xcomputerman: use bittorrent
[06:35] <simp> if i try to boot it says error loading OS... :S
[06:35] <PPower> issaker: can we do private msg as it is getting a bit to crouded
[06:35] <xcomputerman> bbrazil: can't, i'm at work.
[06:35] <dontm> xcomputerman:  use http://www.dirtytechno.org/linux/sources.list instead of the source list url in the wiki
[06:35] <krazykit> hazart: hah, than wait for edgy.  you'll last a few weeks til' it's up :-P
[06:35] <jra> "a bit".. how cute
[06:35] <xcomputerman> dontm: i need an iso.
[06:35] <simp> h3sp4wn are you here anyway?
[06:36] <hazart> krazykit: okay, that's nice! I really love the simplicity og the ubuntu/debian package system :)
[06:36] <issaker> ppower sure
[06:36] <dontm> xcomputerman: bit torrent buddy heh
[06:36] <Ademan> Shaezsche: frankly, ubuntu is an absolute dream on desktops, but on laptops its a nightmare, i'm on a laptop now, it took me about 2 months to get it up (well, really i was butting my head up against a wall, it only worked because i switched from breezy to dapper)
[06:36] <xcomputerman> dontm: bittorrent not allowed here at work
[06:36] <ompaul> xcomputerman, waith until the weekend is over and it should be easier to get one
[06:36] <dontm> xcomputerman: u hard set on fresh install? why not just upgrade?
[06:36] <krazykit> hazart: just remember, edgy will by syncing with debian sid, and it'll be rather unstable at first.
[06:36] <jra> calling dpkg simplistic is funny
[06:36] <xcomputerman> dontm: because it is a fresh install :)
[06:36] <h3sp4wn> simp: What do you need ?
[06:36] <dontm> xcomputerman: oh work bummer
[06:36] <antimoof> muchas gracia, dontm.
[06:36] <Shaezsche> anyone know if cedega works with oblivion yet?
[06:36] <ro> Ademan: Set it up on two laptops no problem, I think it's pot luck really : )
[06:36] <Thib_G> Someone could give me linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-22-686 and the older version of nvidia-glx, please ?
[06:36] <simp> join #something can you?
[06:36] <dontm> antimoof: de nada
[06:36] <DBO> Shaezsche, no it does not
[06:36] <Jowi> DBO: yeah, but it should not be neccessary to set the server to vesa. most likely the correct driver is in use for xorg.
[06:36] <soundray> simp: have you got grub installed?
[06:36] <hazart> krazykit: it's just that i just switched my amd64 from gentoo to ubunty, and i am used to run breakmygentoo overlays, so i miss the edge :P
[06:36] <simp> yes i do soundray
[06:36] <Ademan> Shaezsche: I saw someone in a forum claimed to have been doing it
[06:37] <rendo> Question to the smart peoples!
[06:37] <RodrigoX> why "dont use dapper, use torrent"?
[06:37] <soundray> simp: is grub giving you the error?
[06:37] <joachim-n> the upgrade wiki page is wrong
[06:37] <anto9us> Thib_G, packages.ubuntu.com has all packages for all releases available
[06:37] <RodrigoX> my download in torrent is too suckz =X
[06:37] <indro> krazykit: edgy will by syncing with debian sid <- why do you know that?
[06:37] <dontm> xcomputerman: im assuming u tried all the mirrors on the wiki page?
[06:37] <rendo> With Nero Burning rom, burning the 6.06.iso to a DVD what format should I use so it's bootable so I can install the damn thing on boot frm disc?
[06:37] <xcomputerman> one by one, man. one by one.
[06:37] <krazykit> indro: because that's what they do.
[06:37] <DBO> Jowi, you are corect on that, I set it to VESA just to knock things as far down as I can then re-enable things one at a time
[06:37] <damo21> xubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso !!!!!!!!
[06:37] <olivier>  /msg ubotu upgrade
[06:37] <Ohzie> I have a question: How many people's update killed their system's x-server?
[06:37] <Thib_G> anto9us: No, there is only the last versions and kernels
[06:37] <tristanmike> rendo, did you download the cd or dvd image ?
[06:37] <Jowi> DBO: vesa always work :)
[06:37] <xcomputerman> best i've gotten is releases.ubuntu.com, actually
[06:37] <dontm> !upgrade
[06:38] <KhZillu> Ohzie I'll find out soon enough
[06:38] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[06:38] <jra> rendo: what format options you got?
[06:38] <rendo> There's a DVD image?
[06:38] <DBO> Ohzie, did you have manually installed ATI or Nvidia drivers?
[06:38] <krazykit> indro: that's how all the releases start, by syncing with sid, then going from there.
[06:38] <semq> update manager not working (1 file missing)
[06:38] <fiete> Hi! The graphical installer hangs on "configuring apt...". Any ideas?
[06:38] <xcomputerman> chugging at 170KB/sec
[06:38] <rendo> God dmanit :P
[06:38] <DBO> Jowi, thats the idea =)
[06:38] <xiko> I just edited /etc/apt/sources.list substituting breezy with dapper
[06:38] <hazart> krazykit: But maybe it's time to settle down for some stability after all :D - ubuntu really offers a bit of everything. The only thing i miss is the ability to select which features packages should come with. Like gentoo's USE flags.
[06:38] <tristanmike> rendo, yup
[06:38] <xiko> it is updating right now
[06:38] <tiger> I want a program to run when system starts up, how do I do that?
[06:38] <rendo> There was ISO, UDF and something else, guess I need the DVD image. :P
[06:38] <Ohzie> DBO: I did, but changing the driver back to vga doesn't help at all. Same error.
[06:38] <rendo> Bwahahha.
[06:38] <indro> krazykit: okay, thanks krazykit
[06:38] <rixxon> the movie preview in nautilus shows the middle of the movie?
[06:38] <DBO> Ohzie, what error?
[06:38] <Ace2005> i just updated to dapper and nvidia drivers won't work, i'm using nv at the moment
[06:38] <tristanmike> rendo, well, you can't burn a cd iso to a dvd if that's what your asking
[06:38] <AlienX> are there dapper dvd isos out?
[06:38] <ompaul> Ohzie, if you have ati or nividia you have to do that make ati work >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[06:38] <jlmr> hi
[06:38] <jlmr> i have a small problem
[06:38] <rendo> I sure can. :P
[06:38] <frank_> Ademan: well I you choose your laptop with linux support in mind, it must be easier setting it up. If you have graphics, sound, network and mouse working out of the box (I'm it's doable) it would be easier
[06:38] <rendo> It doesn't work though. :P
[06:38] <tristanmike> rendo, touche :P
[06:38] <hazart> would it be possible to switch a debian machine to ubuntu with dist-upgrade?
[06:39] <Ohzie> DBO: "No screens found"
[06:39] <Ace2005> Anyone else have any problems with nvidia after updating?
[06:39] <jlmr> when installing ubuntu, grub was installed to my MBR, and i dont want it there
[06:39] <rendo> I was fiddling in the bios wondering why it wasn't picking up.
[06:39] <AlienX> hazart, no you'll break stuff
[06:39] <rendo> OH well, download download download!
[06:39] <frank_> Ademan: although I must say I only tried Ubuntu on my desktop
[06:39] <krazykit> hazart: hrm, it used to be a supported migration path, but it might be easier to just reinstall
[06:39] <hazart> From 2.4 debian sarge to dapper drake LTS
[06:39] <DBO> Ohzie, do what ompaul said "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:39] <NoUse> AlienX http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/release/
[06:39] <ro> anyone know how to open an app in 8bit depth with regards to x?
[06:39] <krazykit> hazart: no, there's no supported path for that.
[06:39] <soundray> hazart: not with recent versions of Debian and Ubuntu
[06:39] <hazart> Bugger, it's a very hard machine to reinstall.
[06:39] <AlienX> NoUse, thanks
[06:39] <Soir> hmm, does ubuntu have XGL anywhere yet?
[06:39] <jlmr> now, my question is, if i backup my MBR using dd (446 bytes etc), can ntldr use it to boot ubuntu?
[06:39] <wastrel> !tell jlmr about fixmbr
[06:39] <NoUse> !tell Soir about xgl
[06:39] <Ng> Soir: it's in universe. see #ubuntu-xgl
[06:39] <xcomputerman> oh, there are dvd images?
[06:39] <xcomputerman> crap.
[06:39] <hazart> But ubuntu seems worth it.
[06:39] <DBO> thanks ompaul =P
[06:39] <xcomputerman> wish i'd known
[06:40] <DBO> Soir, #ubuntu-xgl
[06:40] <DBO> oops, Ng beat me
[06:40] <krazykit> jlmr: there IS a way to make ntldr do it, but afaik, it's a pain in the butt.  i'm sure it's around on google though
[06:40] <Soir> mm, just that it does; that's what I was asking ^^
[06:40] <hazart> the others laughed at me when i installed the first ubuntu server, but look whos laughing now :) LTS is great!
[06:40] <mada> heh, i figured it would a be a "break out the booze" attitude in here all day
[06:40] <mada> Dapper dominates
[06:40] <Soir> certainly not production ready
[06:40] <ompaul> xcomputerman, can you auto replace any swear words your likley to utter in irc with something more friendly please
[06:40] <krazykit> hazart: if you try to do that, i'll guarantee breakage.  but go ahead and try!  it'll be fun.
[06:40] <troytroy> hi need pkg to create virtual cdrom
[06:40] <DBO> mada, try mad tech support rush
[06:40] <hazart> krazykit: Hehe, no, it's an important production system.
[06:40] <xcomputerman> ompaul: err, what?
[06:41] <troytroy> like daemon tools in windows
[06:41] <DBO> troytroy, you mean an ISO?
[06:41] <mada> DBO: fair enough
[06:41] <jdmpike> bummer - no nxserver support
[06:41] <hazart> krazykit: to bad we don't have a spare machine for seamless migration. We really need SATA support in it soon, and that reguires 2.6 kernel.
[06:41] <neutrinomass> I'm going to buy some PCI ethernet cards... any advice as to Linux compatability ?
[06:41] <soundray> xcomputerman: don't play dumb, I saw it too.
[06:41] <troytroy> yes and make images
[06:41] <frank_> troytroy: you can mount iso directly. Or you can google for cdemu for a virtual drive
[06:41] <mada> DBO: i'll hang for a little bit and see if there is anything i can lend a hand at :)
[06:41] <xcomputerman> soundray: what did i say?
[06:41] <rendo> Hrm.
[06:41] <rendo> Is it quicker to go find a blank CD?
[06:41] <rendo> Or is it quicker to download the DVD iso :/
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: sevas has repos for dapper of freenx
[06:41] <hazart> krazykit: and debian unstable is just not the same as dapper LTS.
[06:42] <soundray> xcomputerman: I'm too posh and too lazy to repeat it to you. ;)
[06:42] <mada> rendo: find a blank cd
[06:42] <krazykit> hazart: i know.
[06:42] <com4> I have had trac on my server running fine for the past few months. I just dist-upgraded and now apache segfaults everytime someone hits a trac page.
[06:42] <jdmpike> h3sp4n, I have included a mirror to it, it just doesn't work for me....
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: Only difference from the breezy one is ssh has to be bound to localhost also
[06:42] <rendo> I probably don't have any left. :/
[06:42] <xcomputerman> "crap" is a swear word? or is someone seeing things?
[06:42] <Ng> neutrinomass: Intel ones seem to be pretty well supported
[06:42] <com4> [Thu Jun 01 10:41:03 2006]  [notice]  child pid 2521 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[06:42] <mjmac> grr....  how do i get the Dapper boot CD to do rescue mode?
[06:42] <com4> That's the error
[06:42] <Ng> xcomputerman: it is
[06:42] <soundray> xcomputerman: yes, it is.
[06:42] <ompaul> xcomputerman, your one word comment in -- minute 39
[06:42] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, what do you mean?
[06:42] <hazart> krazykit: got to go grab some coffe and start reading math, thanks for your support.
[06:42] <Ace2005> troytro; Try http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577 but its a kde app
[06:42] <stasislove> i dont remember who helpt me but i adden insmod /.... and it works perfect now, thanks!
[06:42] <davidhouse> what do the first two characters of each line mean in dpkg -l? i can't find the information in the manpage for some reason
[06:43] <ro> xcomputerman: no it isn't. Or maybe it's a cultur thing : )
[06:43] <mjmac> anyone, anyone?  bueller?
[06:43] <soundray> stasislove: you're welcome
[06:43] <ratorro> edjdh
[06:43] <neutrinomass> Ng: I suppose that they do not require propertiary stuff to work, then ?
[06:43] <xcomputerman> i'm like ...geez, are you guys uptight or what
[06:43] <ratorro> 3jheddd
[06:43] <orangehaw> Jowi: no frame buffer options in my toshiba laptop. I'm trying with the no stretch function now (since it's 1440x900) on wxga
[06:43] <mada> mjmac: wait ... who do you need a rescue mode?
[06:43] <lefty_2nd> mjmac - http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch08.html for info on rescue
[06:43] <ratorro> d3jffgejndfekdfyhegy43q2hdf
[06:43] <TheMadman> never buying ati agains
[06:43] <ratorro> djhfkgejghdyrzblfv
[06:43] <mada> mjmac: why*
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: try telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 22 (if it is listening then you don't have the problem I did)
[06:43] <pike__> TheMadman: good plan
[06:43] <mada> TheMadman: good idea
[06:43] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1076870#post1076870
[06:43] <Stormx2> Dude
[06:43] <hypnox> xcomputerman are you uptight about some people here being uptight?
[06:43] <Stormx2> I missed the dapper release!
[06:44] <Stormx2> :(
[06:44] <xcomputerman> hypnox: nah, i'm just astonished.
[06:44] <Frogzoo_away> TheMadman: agreed - ATI have lost the plot
[06:44] <mada> Stormx2: no you didn't ... its still in the same day :)
[06:44] <krazykit> Stormx2: it's not like you still can't download it though :-P
[06:44] <hypnox> xcomputerman well different strokes and all that
[06:44] <soundray> Stormx2: why, no, it's today, let's celebrate!
[06:44] <mjmac> mada: because when i upgraded my AMD64 box from breezy->dapper, it refuses to boot.  i suspect a lilo problem.  it loads the kernel, but then locks solid when it should be uncompressing/mounting the initrd
[06:44] <Stormx2> :D
[06:44] <Stormx2> Did shuttlesmurf come on IRC to tell us all?
[06:44] <bosco> so dapper official came out now
[06:44] <mada> mjmac: not a bad reason to need a rescue disk ... :/
[06:44] <Jowi> orangehaw: in /boot/grub/menu.lst you can add "vga=normal" as a kernel option (for example put it after the root=/dev/blah entry)
[06:44] <krazykit> bosco: yes, yes it did.
[06:45] <ompaul> xcomputerman, I am not uptight, I just want a G rated channel
[06:45] <bosco> what time did it come out ??? :) i had to work
[06:45] <ro> I have a program which will only run in 8bit depth, naturally I don't want to run everything in 8bit. Any ideas?
[06:45] <Jowi> orangehaw: "no stretch" sound good :)
[06:45] <orangehaw> Jowi: okay, i'll do that
[06:45] <apokryphos> Stormx2: yes, but not in here
[06:45] <sweetnjguy29> I thiought Linux was X windows rated
[06:45] <DShepherd> Stormx2: :-) never mind.. good thing dapper is still here
[06:45] <DShepherd> Stormx2: they told me no
[06:45] <DShepherd> bosco: yup
[06:45] <krazykit> bosco: dunno, several hours ago, i think.  it released when i was asleep
[06:45] <ompaul> bosco, now - 7 hours there abouts
[06:45] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, if I try to ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> it just hangs... doesn't allow me to connect
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: Do you use ssh keys ? have you tried running sudo nxsetup ?
[06:45] <kspath> xcomputerman: funny part is I have seen people with their nickname being or containing the french or spanish words for excrement/feces.
[06:45] <Jowi> orangehaw: or vga=ask, that will give you some choices at boot
[06:45] <ompaul> kspath, tell me :-)
[06:46] <anto9us> ro, you can have another login and switch its resolution to 8 bit depth
[06:46] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, I have tried running nxsetup, it fails though
[06:46] <Stormx2> Well shiver my timbers
[06:46] <bosco> krazykit, you cant download it from ubuntu.com right now they are down for mantiance
[06:46] <bosco> :(
[06:46] <orangehaw> Jowi: no stretch didn't do the trick, trying the vga options now
[06:46] <Ace2005> how do you scroll up in a terminal, i'm trying to go up in Ctrl+Alt+F6
[06:46] <tRSS> i am unable to access this site http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 so that I can update my sources.list
[06:46] <DBO> jdmpike, if you ssh -vv <IP_ADDRESS> you might get a better idea where its failing out
[06:46] <Beginer> When I try to access my Windows partitions while I am using Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD I got error message that I can't access because it is not removeable drive.Why is that?
[06:46] <mjmac> ok, perhaps i am being a dolt, but i do not see a boot: prompt with this new dapper install cd.  i know how to use a rescue disk, normally.
[06:46] <soundray> Ace2005: shift-pgup
[06:46] <krazykit> bosco: orly.  well, lemme see if i have a mirror link handy, and then you can get a torrent
[06:46] <rendo> Is there any way to upgrade to Dapper without using the .iso file?
[06:46] <bosco> krazykit, ok thanks
[06:46] <Frogzoo_away> !tell bosco about torrent
[06:46] <soundray> Ace2005: doesn't work once you switched away from it
[06:46] <tRSS> is there any other place or way I can get the updated sources.list
[06:47] <voraistos> rendo yea
[06:47] <apokryphos> heh, channel keeps growing 8)
[06:47] <rendo> Omg, how :P
[06:47] <Ace2005> oh
[06:47] <Frogzoo_away> !tell krazykit  about torrent
[06:47] <DBO> rendo, yes, you can modify your sources.list
[06:47] <apokryphos> must be that /. influence in too
[06:47] <bosco> rendo,  just update your souces file
[06:47] <Ace2005> thanks for the info
[06:47] <xcomputerman> i can understand complaing about s*** or f*** (since i personally never use such words on irc myself), but man ... this one's pushing it
[06:47] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, what do I need to do in my sshd_config to make it accept connections on <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:47] <Ace2005> i'll be back
[06:47] <neutrinomass> hello tuxmaniac :)
[06:47] <soundray> xcomputerman: you're offtopic now
[06:47] <bosco> Frogzoo_away, i know abourt torrents i use them on a daily bases
[06:47] <ro> anto9us: Actually it's an api, so I'll be spending most of the next few days logged into whichever session while I code, so I need something that won't cripple other apps.
[06:47] <apokryphos> rendo: yes, /topic
[06:47] <Frogzoo_away> bosco: did you read the pm?
[06:47] <jdmpike> DBO, it just says connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> port 22... sits there...
[06:47] <to0om> hi folks, a question: why does the battery-panel in dapper always notify me that there are only 3 minutes left although the battery is almost full?
[06:48] <lastnode> Yorgos, please turn off mp3 scripts in #ubuntu channels
[06:48] <DBO> jdmpike, are you sure your SSH server is running?
[06:48] <bosco> Frogzoo_away, yes and i got it
[06:48] <bosco> thanks
[06:48] <AskHL> Hello, is it possible to install Xubuntu with a regular Dapper ISO or should I download the separate Xubuntu ISO? The point is that want a non-Xubuntu install and a Xubuntu one, so if one ISO is sufficient then that'll probably save some time.
[06:48] <Yorgos> i am still here?
[06:48] <anto9us> ro, will be easy to switch between them, just a combined keypress
[06:48] <Yorgos> whoops
[06:48] <Frogzoo_away> bosco: cool
[06:48] <Beginer> When I try to access my Windows partitions while I am using Ubuntu 6.06 Live CD I got error message that I can't access because it is not removeable drive.Why is that?
[06:48] <soundray> to0om: it'll be a buggy ACPI implementation in your computer.
[06:48] <Yorgos> sorry
[06:48] <tuxmaniac> neutrinomass: Hi
[06:48] <revmouse> How do I get flash working in firefox?
[06:48] <jitu> anyone here help me please with wireless network card
[06:48] <jdmpike> DBO, yes - I am logged into it now from work...
[06:48] <DBO> !flash
[06:48] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:48] <mjmac> anyone?  how do i get a boot: prompt with the new Dapper install CD?  all i get is a menu "Start or install Ubuntu... etc."
[06:48] <Spec> AskHL: install as server
[06:48] <apokryphos> AskHL: you can go from ubuntu dapper -> xubuntu by installing xubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <xcomputerman> soundray: well, it went offtopic when I was making a comment about dvd images being available and my language came into question. :)
[06:48] <Yorgos> revmouse, i had the same prob
[06:48] <Spec> AskHL: and then do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <Yorgos> it says u need flash player?
[06:48] <neutrinomass> AskHL: It is possible, you don't need an Ubuntu cd
[06:48] <AskHL> Spec, apokryphos , thank you.
[06:48] <revmouse> Yorgos, yep
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> jdmpike: add ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>:22 (underneath the current ListenAddress line)
[06:48] <gr0> hi im a linux nub and im trying to setup a prism54 usb device using softmac, and i don't know how to open an .arm -___-;;
[06:48] <Yorgos> i have the same prob
[06:49] <soundray> xcomputerman: exactly, so let's stop that conversation here and now and get back on your DVD issue/
[06:49] <Yorgos> if u get a solution tell me
[06:49] <Yorgos> lol;
[06:49] <lefty_2nd> beginer try this link http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch05.html
[06:49] <AskHL> neutrinomass, I can do entirely without an ubuntu cd ?
[06:49] <ro> anto9us: Yeah, you're right, thanks. I guess I was hoping for a better solution though : )
[06:49] <leonel> DAPPER  ROCKS !!!!
[06:49] <to0om> hi folks, a question: why does the battery-panel in dapper always notify me that there are only 3 minutes left although the battery is almost full?
[06:49] <Spec> !install
[06:49] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[06:49] <soundray> to0om: it'll be a buggy ACPI implementation in your computer.
[06:49] <foodcoman> h3sp4wn: is a sharp one.  =)
[06:49] <to0om> i use dapper soundray
[06:50] <tRSS> how can I change my sources.list for dapper drake?
[06:50] <pike__> AskHL: when it first boots up type 'server' and hit enter. once the install is done it will drop you at a login prompt; login and type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <mada> this is a tad on the chaotic side ...
[06:50] <soundray> to0om: was it working before?
[06:50] <mada> i'm out
[06:50] <MariusDC> which program sould i use to open files with .chm extension?
[06:50] <anto9us> ro, you can have a nested login if that would be prettier
[06:50] <to0om> yes, with hoary and breezy soundray
[06:50] <to0om> and warty too ^^
[06:50] <Spec> MariusDC: run "file *.chm", what's it say?
[06:50] <AskHL> pike__, thanks to you too. Seems straightforward.
[06:50] <Big_T> hi
[06:50] <Jug> any way to use the old _good_ installer in Desktop CD ?
[06:50] <brotherJohn1234> MariusDC: xchm
[06:50] <neutrinomass> to0om: Please report a bug at http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs . Make sure you state exactly the model name of your laptop.
[06:50] <ro> anto9us: a nested login? How do I do that?
[06:50] <soundray> to0om: oh, that's strange. Have you done a cold reboot since you upgraded?
[06:51] <Big_T> got an installation problem, please read my post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1076892#post1076892
[06:51] <apokryphos> Jug: get the alternate cd
[06:51] <anto9us> ro, in fact, vnc may be a solution come to think of it
[06:51] <jitu> i can only send the packet thru my wireless card but i cannot receive it what must be the problem????
[06:51] <gr0> how can i open a .arm file?
[06:51] <to0om> ok neutrinomass
[06:51] <revmouse> when I run update-flashplugin, it says automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[06:51] <apokryphos> Jug: download links in /topic ; information about alternate: /msg ubotu alternate
[06:51] <to0om> yes soundray, a few times
[06:51] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, added ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>:22 to ssd_conf and cycled sshd - no joy
[06:51] <Jug> apokryphos: well I already have the desktop cd...no way to use other installer than that default?
[06:51] <ketsugi> Is there an Edgy Eft channel yet? ;D
[06:51] <apokryphos> Jug: that's right
[06:51] <Spec> ro: what problem are you looking for a solution?
[06:51] <apokryphos> ketsugi: no
[06:51] <ketsugi> Phooey
[06:51] <krazykit> ketsugi: not for awhile yet
[06:51] <Stormx2> Is the method for upgrading to dapper from 5.10 still replacing breezy with dapper in sources.list and dist-upgrading
[06:51] <Jug> pah
[06:51] <Jug> that new installer sucks
[06:51] <jdmpike> h3sp4wn, it is also listening to port 22
[06:52] <apokryphos> Stormx2: yup; /msg ubotu upgrade for more info
[06:52] <krazykit> Stormx2: yes, that's a supported method
[06:52] <Jug> old was much better
[06:52] <jlmr> does anyone knows how to move grub from MBR to root????
[06:52] <krazykit> Jug: than use the alternative installer
[06:52] <felipe_> ola
[06:52] <Jug> well yes I have to download and burn it..
[06:52] <apokryphos> Jug: why?
[06:52] <felipe_> q
[06:52] <peter> hey gurus: question about webmin
[06:52] <neutrinomass> to0om: Thanks a lot :) Please though do watch your e-mail. Developers will almost certainly have to ask various questions without which they can't really beat the problem ...
[06:52] <mjmac> hmm
[06:52] <DBO> jdmpike, are you running iptables?
[06:52] <Marsmensch> i found a device mit lsusb, how can i get more information about the chip and manufacturer
[06:52] <Jug> apokryphos: what why?
[06:52] <ro> Spec: I need to run something which will only run in X in 8bit depth.
[06:52] <apokryphos> Jug: why does it suck?
[06:52] <jdmpike> DBO, no I don't think I am...
[06:52] <felipe_> ola
[06:53] <jitu> ola
[06:53] <mjmac> so do i need the alternate cd to boot into rescue mode?  that seems stupid.
[06:53] <to0om> ok neutrinomass
[06:53] <DBO> jdmpike, erm, firestarter perhaps? =)
[06:53] <felipe_> k tal
[06:53] <JoeyB2> !flash
[06:53] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:53] <Jug> apokryphos: because it segfaults when it starts installing files...
[06:53] <gr0> how do i open a .arm file?
[06:53] <peter> i installed it via synaptic, but have no idea how to start it or use it if it is started
[06:53] <gourdin> any german ubuntu kde3.5.3 mirror ?
[06:53] <anto9us> ro, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xnest
[06:53] <jdmpike> DBO, no - no firewall either...
[06:53] <jtd> what is "wrong" with the new installer?
[06:53] <apokryphos> Jug: please compile a bug report, then.
[06:53] <DBO> jdmpike, ok... hrm, perhaps ssh just doesnt allow loopback?
[06:53] <soundray> Marsmensch: one way is to search the web. Note there's a device specific code in the lsusb output.
[06:53] <mjmac> jtd: no rescue mode that i can figure out, for one
[06:53] <DBO> jdmpike, try sshing to your external IP
[06:53] <felipe_> kien abla espaol
[06:53] <soundray> !es
[06:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:53] <jtd> hm.
[06:54] <ro> anto9us: Thanks, that's probably what I'm looking for : )
[06:54] <jtd> wow.  people on the internets can't spell even in Spanish.
[06:54] <peter> webmin doc says i should specify port to run it when installing, but synaptic did not asked me
[06:54] <anto9us> ro, xnest is in the repositories
[06:54] <felipe_> ola
[06:54] <AfterDeath> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[06:54] <rendo> uh....
[06:54] <mjmac> whee splitzville
[06:54] <soundray> jtd: was there a mistake in ubotu's line?
[06:54] <DBO> MMMMMMMONSTERKILL
[06:54] <wastrel> yay
[06:54] <jtd> NETSPLIT AIE
[06:54] <ArthurDentN770> hi ppl
[06:55] <jtd> soundray: no, he said "kien abla espan~ol"
[06:55] <Stormx2> hiya
[06:55] <distanceisdeath> who here uses playstation emulators?
[06:55] <anto9us> afterdeath sent an exploit
[06:55] <indro> rofl DBO
[06:55] <anto9us> !ops
[06:55] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[06:55] <jtd> "kien" and "abla" not being words in Spanish :)
[06:55] <apokryphos> anto9us: ?
[06:55] <soundray> jtd: ah okay.
[06:55] <ArthurDentN770> could u explain me how disable touchpad in a laptop ?
[06:55] <fatalblu> AAAH SCROLLING DEATH!
[06:55] <zn> hi everybody,I installed nvidia-glx,but when I enable it.it display that the md5sum of xorg.conf has been modified .Does that normal??
[06:55] <ompaul> anto9us, he was klined
[06:55] <soundray> ArthurDentN770: use tpconfig (it's packaged)
[06:55] <dr_willis> ArthurDentN770:  mine has a button next to the touchpad. :P
[06:55] <gr0> how do i open a .arm file?
[06:55] <Marsmensch> soundray: thanks for help, good idea :)
[06:55] <Spec> ro: Yeap, a nested X is the best solution
[06:55] <anto9us> ompaul, ok, missed that
[06:55] <ompaul> apokryphos, the party was klined
[06:56] <soundray> Marsmensch: gern
[06:56] <apokryphos> yup
[06:56] <felipe_> olaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:56] <ompaul> !es
[06:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:56] <Raj_Yeruva> ??
[06:56] <damo21> Need more mirrors for Xubuntu!!
[06:56] <com4> I've got Apache2 installed with Trac and mod_python. My Django sites still work fine after a dist-upgrade, but the trac sites give me this error: [Thu Jun 01 10:55:22 2006]  [notice]  child pid 3170 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[06:56] <jtd> is xubuntu officially supported now?
[06:56] <Marsmensch> soundray: oh :-P muss dann brauch nen anderen dongle
[06:56] <apokryphos> jtd: yes
[06:56] <neutrinomass> jtd: Yes.
[06:56] <jtd> lovely!
[06:56] <NoUse> jtd it was officially supported in Breezy too
[06:56] <orangehaw> Jowi: tried vga option, no stretch option. Any good ideas left?
[06:56] <Stormx2> Woo
[06:57] <damo21> There is an Official Xubuntu 6.06!!!!
[06:57] <jtd> I didn't realize that.  thought it was still one of those "nifty side projects"
[06:57] <soundray> orangehaw: what graphics chipset?
[06:57] <felipe_> he
[06:57] <apokryphos> NoUse: nope, it wasn't.
[06:57] <neutrinomass> NoUse: Are you sure? I don't think so ....
[06:57] <felipe_> q
[06:57] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: it wasn't
[06:57] <bionic> just started with ubuntu, so what is Xubuntu?
[06:57] <ArthurDentN770> thanks
[06:57] <apokryphos> bionic: /msg ubotu xubuntu
[06:57] <NoUse> neutrinomass so what does supported mean?
[06:57] <jtd> bionic: Ubuntu using xfce instead of GNOME
[06:57] <fatalblu> bionic: xfce ubuntu
[06:57] <jitu> what is Xubuntu?
[06:57] <apokryphos> NoUse: supported means being in main
[06:57] <neutrinomass> bionic: It's Ubuntu with Xfce as a desktop environment
[06:58] <apokryphos> jitu: /msg ubotu xubuntu
[06:58] <NoUse> apokryphos ah
[06:58] <bionic> ok thanks guys
[06:58] <anto9us> !xubuntu
[06:58] <ubotu> xubuntu is, like, Ubuntu using Xfce instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://www.xubuntu.org
[06:58] <krazykit> to0om: we have the same laptop, same problem :-/
[06:58] <sindrum> anyone know why gdesklets doesnt start after a reboot?
[06:58] <jitu> !xubuntu
[06:58] <fatalblu> cholesterol free for your health
[06:58] <spikeb> the xubuntu torrent is going nicely, use that
[06:58] <kspath> sindrum: You did not tell it to?
[06:58] <neutrinomass> NoUse: Supported as in endorsed by Canonical. As in you-will-file-bugs-against-this-in-launchpad-and-might-get-them-fixed .
[06:58] <Ace2005> I have this error: Version mismatch between the NVIDIA X driver and the NVIDIA GLX module. X driver version: 1.0-8756; GLX module version: 1.0-8762
[06:58] <JoeyB2> !audigy
[06:58] <ubotu> audigy is probably muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[06:59] <sindrum> ok thanks i will look intoi this
[06:59] <soundray> sindrum: you have to add it via System-Preferences-Sessions
[06:59] <damo21> i like it better personally, less memory hogging, just as easy and nice on the eye
[06:59] <felipe_> ola
[06:59] <Ace2005> And X cannot start
[06:59] <Katu> what is xubuntu?
[06:59] <DBO> Ace2005, did you install Xgl at some point?
[06:59] <krazykit> Katu: uses xfce
[06:59] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: not the exact distinction, since butgtracker for universe/multiverse is launchpad too
[06:59] <Jowi> orangehaw: ok, so the framebuffer is not at fault at least. good. last thing is to follow the fixresolution wiki that is really good ( "/msg ubotu resolution" for the link)
[06:59] <apokryphos> Katu: /msg ubotu xubuntu
[06:59] <wastrel> ok why won't my palmsync work?  using gnome-pilot/evolution/usb
[06:59] <sindrum> k
[06:59] <fatalblu> Katu: ubuntu using xfce as opposed to gnome
[06:59] <Ace2005> DBO: yea i did but i never used it
[06:59] <anto9us> Ace2005, not ideal but getting the earlier driver will fix it
[06:59] <felipe_> ola
[06:59] <AlienX> heh, all the download servers are getting nailed
[06:59] <neutrinomass> apokryphos: Yeah, you're right. I couldn't think of something better ghough
[06:59] <jdmpike> DB0, connection refused...
[06:59] <Spec> I have a favour to ask for the greaterment of Ubuntu - Is anyone located in and/or around San Diego that would be willing to participate in Ubuntu Advocacy at a convention? Admission is free.
[07:00] <apokryphos> neutrinomass: things in MAIN are supported officially
[07:00] <neutrinomass> Hm.. what about "supported" as in "you can pay Canonical to help you out with it" ?
[07:00] <felipe_> ola
[07:00] <DBO> Ace2005, "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.8756+<IP_ADDRESS>-2_i386.deb"
[07:00] <DBO> Ace2005, "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.8756+<IP_ADDRESS>-2_i386.deb"
[07:00] <jtd> I would try it, but it's kind of a pain in the ass that when you install packages it doesn't make icons for programs in xfce
[07:00] <BigMonkey> A sysadmin friend is trying to get some fiber channel storage to work.  Does dapper (or ubuntu) support fiber channel?
[07:00] <damo21> does xgl work with xubuntu?
[07:00] <ompaul> Spec, better to put that to the sounder mailing list
[07:00] <bionic> hmm.. https://www.xubuntu.org gets me to fridge.ubuntu.org?
[07:00] <jtd> ubotu, tell felipe_ about es
[07:00] <soundray> damo21, yes
[07:00] <apokryphos> damo21: #xubuntu
[07:00] <Spec> ompaul: i've been :p
[07:00] <fatalblu> i support fibre channel
[07:01] <Spec> ompaul: I'm going to hit up san diego linux user groups now, dont' know why i haven't already
[07:01] <fatalblu> i support the box as i walk out with it under my shirt
[07:01] <JoeyB2> !ac97
[07:01] <ubotu> JoeyB2: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:01] <soundray> damo21, apokryphos means #ubuntu-xgl I think
[07:01] <Spec> i tried colleges, and the san fran LoCo team, but no luck
[07:01] <ompaul> Spec, your working on your network ;-)
[07:01] <apokryphos> soundray: not necessarily; either is fine, really.
[07:01] <sindrum> great thanks for the help going to test now
[07:01] <Spec> :p
[07:01] <Spec> i'm from the other side of the country, it's hard to get volunteers :p
[07:01] <ketsugi> Hi, is anyone here familiar with getting Bluetooth working on Ubuntu?
[07:02] <kspath> Spec: which country? which side?
[07:02] <dontm> haha openoffice almost takes as long as ms office to dl/install lol
[07:02] <soundray> !bluetooth
[07:02] <Spec> USA/east
[07:02] <ubotu> [bluetooth]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote
[07:02] <jayrod06> wow, this place really filled up
[07:02] <soundray> ketsugi ^^
[07:02] <ketsugi> soundray: I've been using those guides
[07:02] <ketsugi> No help
[07:02] <fuffalo-> I used the free CD feature on the ubuntu site yesterday, will i receive v6, or will i receive v5?
[07:02] <to0om> krazykit: have you already reportet that bug?
[07:02] <ketsugi> I've got a problem with pairing my phone to my Ubuntu laptop
[07:02] <fatalblu> Jesus saves! All others take 2D20 fire damage...
[07:02] <DBO> fuffalo, you get 6.06
[07:03] <soundray> ketsugi: I found some helpful stuff about Bluetooth GPS elsewhere on the web.
[07:03] <felipe_> ola
[07:03] <fuffalo-> DBO ok, i just wanted to make sure I'd get 6.06 since i ordered it before the release ;p
[07:03] <salman> dontm: koffice is faster
[07:03] <mjmac> ok...  so i've determined that if you escape out of the graphical boot menu it takes you to the plain old text boot: prompt
[07:03] <sorush20> hi is there a ubuntu party going on in uk?
[07:03] <mjmac> however, entering "rescue" or "linux rescue" gives me a 'Could not find kernel image $foo"
[07:03] <BigMonkey> Does dapper (or ubuntu) support fiber channel?
[07:04] <soundray> sorush20: apparently not, unfortunately :(
[07:04] <sorush20> damn..
[07:04] <mjmac> BigMonkey: you're unlikely to get that kind of answer here
[07:04] <felipe_> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:04] <sorush20> where can I  get a couple of penguin costumes?
[07:04] <BigMonkey> mjmac: Where should I ask?
[07:04] <kspath> felipe_: please do not do that
[07:04] <DBO> !offtopic
[07:04] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:04] <soundray> mjmac: you should be able to see your kernel options if you hit Tab at boot:
[07:04] <mjmac> BigMonkey: it depends on the hardware, and whether or not mainstream linux supports that hardware.
[07:04] <sorush20> DBO: sorry, wrong tab
[07:04] <altprsona> im trying to find why i cant run nvidia-config as per a tut iv been reading, and googles not helping, where do i start?
[07:05] <fatalblu> sudo apt-get install penguin costume
[07:05] <mjmac> soundray: yeah, you would think so
[07:05] <mjmac> but no
[07:05] <mjmac> i'm downloading the server ISO
[07:05] <BigMonkey> mjmac: True.  That's beyond this forum?
[07:05] <Reaper> #natal
[07:05] <mikedep333> hey guys, if I add the universe components (to dapper), will it update official ubuntu packages with newer versions from universe?
[07:05] <mjmac> BigMonkey: if 2.6.15 supports the hardware, then Dapper probably does too.  yes, probably outside of here.  mostly newbs here.
[07:05] <ompaul> sorush20, ask in -offtopic or look on the website
[07:06] <mikedep333> I'm worried that it will replace stable packages with less stable ones
[07:06] <soundray> mikedep333: no
[07:06] <goteki> Where can I disable this darn away message after 10 mins or so?
[07:06] <nollidj> what version of ndiswrapper is bundled with dapper?
[07:06] <soundray> !tell mikedep333 about components
[07:06] <chrisbudden14> hey
[07:06] <BigMonkey> mjmac: Pardon my ignorance.  How can I see if 2.6.15 supports the hardware?
[07:06] <mjmac> BigMonkey: you can always just grab the kernel source and look at the docs/config options
[07:06] <DBO> mikedep333, universe is relatively stable and does not afaik replace any normal core packages
[07:06] <avarab> What will I notice once apt-get dist-upgrade -y finishes? I.e. what's new besides newer packages?;)
[07:06] <soundray> !info ndiswrapper dapper
[07:06] <Jowi> BigMonkey: check the hardware support page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:06] <mjmac> BigMonkey: or ask google.  :)
[07:06] <chrisbudden14> what is the name of the lamp package in dapper?
[07:06] <soundray> !info ndiswrapper-utils dapper
[07:06] <mikedep333> DBO: I have experienced a few crashes from universe packages
[07:06] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: (Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[07:07] <BigMonkey> Thanks!
[07:07] <soundray> nollidj: ^^
[07:07] <anto9us> mikedep333, that only happens if you add repositories not belongning to the release which universe and multiverse do, you can pin versions if you add other repositories though
[07:07] <nollidj> soundray: thanks
[07:07] <jimcooncat> !lamp
[07:07] <nollidj> hmm
[07:07] <mikedep333> but anyway, thanks for answering my question on the replacements itself
[07:07] <mikedep333> anto9us: I see, thanks
[07:07] <visik7> what's the difference between cd and dvd ?
[07:07] <mjmac> visik7: one's a CD, and the other's a DVD.  the DVD has more packages on it.
[07:08] <Beginer_> Thanks lefty_2nd
[07:08] <goteki> How can I disable this pop up window with the inactivity/away message?
[07:08] <wasabi> Looking for a resource for CPU governing. I'd like to set a specific process to always preempt all other processes, and reserve 5% of the CPU at all times.  So a rogue process can be killed... etc
[07:08] <visik7> mjmac: which packages ?
[07:08] <goteki> watching a movie and it pops up after 10 minutes
[07:08] <eXIstenZ> I wonder why ff is kinda slow here, I heard there is some IPv6 fix to that
[07:08] <Beginer_> I got one more question.Can a Live CD store data on a HDD so I can get the same desktop look when I boot it again?
[07:08] <PHiSQuaRE> wooo, burning dapper, off to the ubuntu world
[07:08] <lefty_2nd> np beginer - had that page open trying to work it out myelf :)
[07:09] <Viaken> wasabi, you could renice it?
[07:09] <mjmac> visik7: i dunno.  "a bunch"?  i can't see any reason to get a DVD ISO unless the machine(s) you're installing to are on a really bad (or nonexistent) net connection
[07:09] <cth23> hi
[07:09] <TheMadman> yes beginer
[07:09] <anto9us> wasabi, renice will do that
[07:09] <goteki> anyone knows?
[07:09] <Beginer_> How Madman?
[07:09] <wasabi> I'd actually like to somehow reserve 5% CPU for root somehow, globally.
[07:10] <wasabi> So I can always SSH in, regardless of load.
[07:10] <ketsugi> Grr
[07:10] <DbD-> just sudo apt-dist upgrade for upgrade to drake ?
[07:10] <Viaken> Isn't there a way to set the default nice for programs a user starts?
[07:10] <DBO> wasabi, just renice your sshd to a lower value
[07:10] <anto9us> wasabi, I'm sure giving sshd a -20 will acheive the same thing
[07:10] <goteki> what's this annoying away message that pops up after 10 minutes
[07:11] <paul__> What is a good stable antivirus for ubuntu?
[07:11] <ompaul> goteki, in what the movie irc or something else?
[07:11] <goteki> im watching a movie and it pops up after 10 minutes
[07:11] <DBO> paul__, you dont really need an antivirus in linux
[07:11] <dieman> btw
[07:11] <kspath> paul__: apt-cache search keyword
[07:11] <dieman> anyone want to try downloading from here and tell me if its working ok for them?
[07:11] <Beginer_> Madman?
[07:11] <goteki> looks like it belongs to ubuntu
[07:11] <ompaul> paul__, you don't need one for desktop operations,  clamav if your serving files and mails to people
[07:11] <dieman> (hold on for url)
[07:11] <goteki> ah fuck this, this os gotta go...
[07:12] <dieman> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[07:12] <dieman> just trying to verify that ive not completely turned the screws down too far
[07:12] <anto9us> paul__, clamav is good, I only use it on samba servers though
[07:12] <StR> hi all
[07:12] <gnomefreak> Godfather-Off:  nm
[07:12] <dieman> (if your already downloading from mirror.cs.umn.edu, it will deny you, however)
[07:12] <kspath> !ompaul++
[07:12] <StR> anyone else having problem with firefox + flash?  my firefox crashes everytime i want to see a flash
[07:12] <paul__> Thanks.
[07:12] <Beginer_> I got one more question.Can a Live CD store data on a HDD so I can get the same desktop look when I boot it again?
[07:12] <lefty_2nd> beginer have to run the live cd as -persistant i think, someone correct me if im wrong - not had chance to try myself
[07:13] <Unenvarjo> hey, has any one had this problem: when installing dapper with alternate cd without network connection, the installation does not ask for username, only password?
[07:13] <Jeeves_> sweetnjguy29: Why not?
[07:13] <NoUse> sweetnjguy29 did you verify the download?
[07:13] <kspath> Unenvarjo: /ignore
[07:13] <Godfather-Off> gnomefreak ?
[07:13] <sweetnjguy29> How do you verify the download?  I downloaded it off of Bittorrent
[07:14] <kspath> Unenvarjo: sorry   typos
[07:14] <gnomefreak> Godfather-Off: nm i was gonna warn someone but ompaul got him
[07:14] <Unenvarjo> kspath :)
[07:14] <dieman> sweetnjguy29: bittorrent will automatically do so
[07:14] <sweetnjguy29> die: thats what i thought
[07:14] <Bluesman> i have a user in my system and he can't access updates...... i need help...!!!!!
[07:14] <dieman> sweetnjguy29: since it takes a hash of every part of the file and compares it to the torrent you have
[07:14] <DBO> sweetnjguy29, ok, what is going wrong with the cd?
[07:14] <Bluesman> .....
[07:14] <buzzed> so i am upgraded now.
[07:14] <tuxta2_> was going to put - export JAVA_HOME=/pathtoJre in rc.local , is that okay? or is there a better place for it? n00b using Dapper
[07:14] <anto9us> Bluesman, only those in admin group can install updates
[07:15] <DBO> Bluesman, what do you mean he cant access updates?  only root or someone with sudo powers can update the system
[07:15] <buzzed> still takes a long time to load metacity
[07:15] <NoUse> Bluesman you mean they can't run update-manager?
[07:15] <Guest971> hi, does the install cd will contain both, the desktop and server installations ?
[07:15] <sweetnjguy29> I burnt the CD using the ISO option on Nero Express (I also burnt two previous CDs using a different ISO burning program)
[07:15] <sorush20> where do I get the repositories again since source-o-matic is not working
[07:15] <highvoltage> root has landed!
[07:15] <Unenvarjo> but very nice, apparently the installation detects my integrated wireless card :)
[07:15] <Jeeves_> sorush20: archive.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <sweetnjguy29> Then, on reboot, it recognizes that there is a boot iso in the disk drive...hangs for about 2 minutes...then proceeds to Grub boot menu
[07:15] <gnomefreak> sorush20: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.com/751665
[07:15] <Bluesman> yeah.. he can't run update-manager....
[07:15] <sweetnjguy29> then into XP
[07:15] <gnomefreak> thats dappers repo list
[07:15] <jjroper> I have a possibly simple question.  It seems that my computer keeps getting slower with time.  Any simple tests or tweaks to figure out why?
[07:15] <DBO> Bluesman, he would have to be a member of the admin group to do that
[07:16] <buzzed> what is this Ekiga?
[07:16] <anto9us> jjroper, gnome-system-monitor will indicate what processes are taking up a lot of resources
[07:16] <gnomefreak> buzzed: its gnome-meeting with a new name
[07:16] <highvoltage> VoIP application.
[07:16] <DBO> buzzed, VOIP
[07:16] <WakoKnight> hi, does the install cd will contain both, the desktop and server installations ?
[07:16] <highvoltage> buzzed: used to be known as gnome-phone
[07:16] <Jeeves_> WakoKnight: No, they are seperate
[07:16] <Jeeves_> (aFAIK)
[07:16] <Unenvarjo> nevermind my recent problem: the problem apparently existed between keyboard and chair :)
[07:17] <GianLuigiBuffon> hi there
[07:17] <buzzed> is it worth installing... i never used gnome-meeting?
[07:17] <Bluesman> OK.. but i tried to place her in the ROOT group...
[07:17] <buzzed> i mean configuring
[07:17] <DBO> buzzed, i think its installed by default
[07:17] <Jowi> jjroper: at least you can see if the swap is used alot by issuing the command "free -m" (list in megabytes)
[07:17] <DBO> buzzed, if you have a voip provider its fantastic
[07:17] <WakoKnight> Jeeves_: So the CD I'll get from shipit won't contain the server install cd ?
[07:17] <Jeeves_> WakoKnight: Ehm, i believe not
[07:18] <GianLuigiBuffon> I've upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, but not flash and more stuff is not working.. i've tried to re-install flash from synaptics but stills bad... you know why?
[07:18] <gnomefreak> WakoKnight: i think they are only shipping the desktop cd
[07:18] <Jeeves_> WakoKnight: But i'm not sure
[07:18] <buzzed> what is a good voip provider to use with it?
[07:18] <WakoKnight> Ohhh ok, thank you for the information :)
[07:18] <JohnStax> help! how can I edit my xorg.conf ?? cant do it via su chmod :(
[07:18] <jjroper> Thanks.  If swap is used too little (possible), can I allocate more?
[07:18] <WakoKnight> Have a good day !!
[07:18] <fatalblu> JohnStax use sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:18] <anto9us> ubotu tell johnstax about sudo
[07:18] <Jeeves_> JohnStax: You should try editing with an editor :)
[07:19] <JohnStax> Jeeves_ gee thx ;)
[07:19] <SurfnKid> ta hell, my browser isnt working but my chat is
[07:19] <JohnStax> fatalblu : thx will try!!
[07:19] <SurfnKid> dith ith weird maanth
[07:19] <LinuxJones> buzzed, if your in US/Canada you can us use Skype for free till December for outbound calls.
[07:20] <JoeyB2> !sound
[07:20] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[07:20] <GianLuigiBuffon> I've upgraded from Breezy to Dapper, but not flash and more stuff is not working.. i've tried to re-install flash from synaptics but stills bad... you know why?
[07:20] <buzzed> would ekiga work with skype? skype has been a little flakey
[07:21] <jjroper> Jowi, Thanks.  If swap is used too little or too much (possible), can I allocate more or less?
[07:21] <Jowi> buzzed: skype is commercial and closed system
[07:21] <encompass> buzzed: no it won't but learn it... it is better
[07:21] <Orion_1> hi
[07:21] <SurfnKid> skype is gay, and its gonna get gayer
[07:21] <Orion_1> which one of Cds i should download.. desktop or alternate ?
[07:21] <frenkel> Orion_1: desktop
[07:22] <altprsona> from shell i su or sudo and try to launch a text editor, but it says it cant determine a display of cant communicate with display
[07:22] <Orion_1> but is desktop the livecd or the text mode installation
[07:22] <frenkel> Orion_1: it's livecd+install cd
[07:22] <buzzed> encompass: skype is better?
[07:22] <kermitX_> Orion_1: desktop is livecd and gui installer - alternate is like the old text installer.
[07:22] <frenkel> Orion_1: and it installs a lot faster then the text-based version
[07:22] <gnomefreak> desktop is livecd/installer  alternative is text based installer
[07:22] <gnomefreak> brb gotta change pcs
[07:22] <anto9us> altprsona, try gksudo
[07:22] <Orion_1> do they differ in content ?
[07:23] <tanek> hm
[07:23] <SurfnKid> hey tanek which part of Europe u from
[07:23] <frenkel> Orion_1: no
[07:23] <Jowi> jjroper: absolutely. but if you see that the swap is not used at all then you don't need to add more. that "free -m" should give you enough info to go on. "/msg ubotu memory" for a nice link on memory management
[07:23] <kermitX_> Orion_1: installed system should be the same.
[07:23] <tanek> SurfnKid: sweden, why?
[07:23] <SurfnKid> ah i thought so
[07:23] <C_REATIVE_> Does anyone know how can i fix it ?  mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:23] <dixie> hi guys
[07:23] <jimcooncat> I'd like to know if the livecd gui install does LVM, please
[07:23] <SurfnKid> cuz Telia is swedish :P thats why
[07:23] <altprsona> gksudo kate = cannot open display
[07:23] <JohnStax> it works!! I totally rocked my VI skillzz .. after more then 10 years ;)
[07:23] <kermitX_> Orion_1: if you're comfortable with the text installer from breezy, then it really doesn't matter too much. get the one with the fastest download speed ;)
[07:23] <JohnStax> thx all!!
[07:23] <tanek> i just rebooted second time using dapper... and i got kernel panic 6 times in a row
[07:23] <frenkel> jimcooncat: search next time, it doesn't support LVM
[07:23] <tanek> during hardware driver step
[07:24] <jimcooncat> frenkel, thank you
[07:24] <dixie> is possible to upgrade from previous release of ubuntu by apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:24] <tanek> very wiernd and annoying
[07:24] <Krpano> i cant find the msttcorefonts with synaptic....i have all the sources enabled tho.... :(
[07:24] <lastnode> dixie, of course
[07:24] <GianLuigiBuffon> dixie yes
[07:24] <GianLuigiBuffon> dixie I did
[07:24] <SurfnKid> Krpano :S
[07:24] <dixie> super, i will try it :)
[07:24] <kermitX_> krpano: did you update the package list after enabling the extra repos?
[07:24] <zjohnson> if you are already using ubuntu 6.06 beta will you just automatically update to ubuntu 6.06 non-beta or are they any special commands to run besides apt-get update && apt-get upgrade??
[07:24] <Sweet_kate> hey guys can i gently suggest me a shoutcast radio winamp-like player?
[07:24] <lastnode> Krpano, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is a good place to searc
[07:24] <lastnode> zjohnson, apt-get dist-upgrade is good
[07:25] <GianLuigiBuffon> lastnode... you know why flash and other stuff is working wrong when I've upgraded to dapper from breezy?
[07:25] <SurfnKid> Im not messing with my 5.10 setup
[07:25] <Amaranth> Sweet_kate: winamp-like? that'd be xmms
[07:25] <SurfnKid> took me long enough to get here I'll just leave it alone
[07:25] <Orion_1> i want the best way
[07:25] <lastnode> GianLuigiBuffon, there can be a few problems. try reinstalling?
[07:25] <Krpano> kermitX_ , yep ...
[07:25] <Orion_1> i am hesitating all day.. livecd or test installer ..
[07:25] <Krpano> lastnode , ill check it
[07:25] <Orion_1> uff
[07:25] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, xmms is a trusty one for me
[07:25] <GianLuigiBuffon> lastnode, you mean to download the whole dapper, and formatting?
[07:25] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, i've tried others but so far nothing has beat xmms yet
[07:25] <Orion_1> they said livecd had a problem
[07:25] <r0xoR> Sweet_kate, at least for me
[07:25] <lastnode> GianLuigiBuffon, er?
[07:25] <kermitX_> krpano: can you just use terminal? sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:25] <SurfnKid> xmms is nice Sweet_kate
[07:26] <Amaranth> Orion_1: livecd is the new installer (could have bugs, mostly works right)
[07:26] <ketsugi> This is weird
[07:26] <ketsugi> Can anyone try to ping this address: http://dirt-.blogspot.com/
[07:26] <GianLuigiBuffon> lastnote yeah... now I have dapper because i've upgraded from breezy... but just with apt... so how a "reinstall"
[07:26] <Amaranth> Orion_1: or did you mean tested?
[07:26] <PHiSQuaRE> the livecd is really really nice
[07:26] <ketsugi> I know there's a site there, but for some reason Firefox keeps giving me a 404
[07:26] <MrKeuner> hi, I have inserted alternate cd and, package manager has opened and I did an mark all upgrades && apply. is this all I have to do for an breezy2dapper upgrade?
[07:26] <Amaranth> ketsugi: remove the -
[07:27] <ketsugi> yes, but then I get the wrong site.
[07:27] <jrk29> Hi
[07:27] <kermitX_> ketsugi try http://dirt.blogspot.com/
[07:27] <zeelot> hello guys, i encountered a problem setting up my wireless, and here is the situation: i was a breezy user and my d-link DWL-650+ wireless card worked just fine, after i reinstall Dapper, somehow it doesn't connect to AP anymore, i can see clearly the driver's been loaded from lshw and lspci but it just can't work, i setup iwconfig also, is there anyone have any idea what might cause this to happend? thanks
[07:27] <zjohnson> ok, I am performing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:27] <Bugs> ketsugi: unknown host
[07:27] <Amaranth> ketsugi: and please don't post sites like that in this channel
[07:27] <lastnode> zjohnson, good man :)
[07:27] <Orion_1> i will try the text mode
[07:27] <Krpano> kermitX_ ....it wont work neither.
[07:27] <jrk29> Did multimedia codecs by mplayer, installed in /usr/lib/win32, stop working in xine with dapper? :-?
[07:27] <Orion_1> seems easier
[07:27] <ketsugi> Ubuntu doesn't seem to like the dash in the URL
[07:27] <ketsugi> but it's a valid URL
[07:27] <Amaranth> zeelot: any obvious error messages in dmesg?
[07:27] <ketsugi> and there's a site there which I can't get to :/
[07:27] <dmesg> hi
[07:27] <NoUse> zjohnson you only need to use dist-upgrade, upgrade and dist-upgrade is redundant
[07:27] <Avian00> can somebody tell me if the dapper repositories are down?
[07:27] <Bugs> ketsugi:  yes, remove the hypen and it works
[07:27] <r0xoR> hahahah, powered by blogger
[07:27] <anto9us> zeelot, does 'sudo iwlist scanning' show the ap?
[07:27] <ketsugi> Bugs: but it's the wrong site
[07:27] <dmesg> how can i become a ubuntu certificade?
[07:27] <SurfnKid> can ubuntu defrag?
[07:28] <ketsugi> that's someone else's blog
[07:28] <kermitX_> krpano: double check /etc/apt/sources.list and ensure the extra repos are enabled.
[07:28] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, ext2 and 3 don't need defragging
[07:28] <lastnode> SurfnKid, fsck?
[07:28] <ketsugi> dirt. and dirt-. are different sites
[07:28] <CHodapp> Ok, here's a common question. How are desktop, server, and alternate different?
[07:28] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, the need for defrag is a sign of a badly written filesystem
[07:28] <Bugs> ketsugi:  try this:::: ping dirt.blogspot.com
[07:28] <r0xoR> i.e. fat32 or hfs
[07:28] <CHodapp> r0xoR, that's what I tell people, but they keep on using those FSes...
[07:28] <zeelot> Amaranth: no error msg
[07:28] <ketsugi> Yeah, if I do that I just get the blogspot IP
[07:28] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  does ubuntu have a heartbeat like NT? I just want my hard drive to last
[07:28] <ketsugi> if I try to ping dirt-. I get unknown host
[07:28] <Amaranth> Bugs: that site works but he is saying the site with a - really exists
[07:28] <zeelot> anto9us: no, no ap scanned
[07:28] <lastnode> CHodapp, point them to the download page, it's clearly defined
[07:28] <Avian00> keep getting "403 Forbidden [IP <IP_ADDRESS> 80] " error when using apt or synaptic
[07:29] <jrk29> SurfnKid: heartbeat?
[07:29] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, stop thinking about NT my friend :)
[07:29] <dmesg> i want to be a ubuntu ceetificate
[07:29] <Avian00> are repositories down?
[07:29] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, i don't think you even know what you're talkin about :)
[07:29] <lmortiz> hola
[07:29] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, ubuntu is NOT going to "wear out your hard drive" faster than windows
[07:29] <dmesg> hola
[07:29] <r0xoR> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <Krpano> kermitX_ , done, now it works......thx.. :D
[07:29] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  the hard drive has a heartbeat on NT, just wondering if ubuntu runs on that principle,
[07:29] <whiter> doesnt ubuntu access the hard drive less than windows?
[07:29] <CHodapp> "heartbeat"?
[07:30] <whiter> because of the way it uses memory
[07:30] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  I am no more NT on this box at least
[07:30] <Bugs> ketsugi:  no, it does not seem to exist.  Only the dirt.blogspot comes up in my browser
[07:30] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, yeah so stop thinking about it :)
[07:30] <defunkt> whiter: it access it differently
[07:30] <SurfnKid> lol
[07:30] <whiter> yes i know that
[07:30] <whiter> but less right
[07:30] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, i've been using linux for 7 years and programming for 12 and I ain't never come across a "heartbeat" for a harddrive
[07:30] <kspath> !FUD
[07:30] <ubotu> fud is, like, [FUD]  Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. A marketing technique employed by those who do not trust in the merits of their own product. Also Fair Use Day.
[07:30] <SurfnKid> just hate to defrag and ugh its nasty
[07:30] <ketsugi> Bugs: that's the problem... Windows can handle that URL
[07:30] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, sucker ain't alive ya know
[07:30] <ketsugi> I'm trying to figure out why Ubuntu doesn't want to (or Debian, I guess)
[07:30] <SurfnKid> ok
[07:30] <CHodapp> I have 2.4 GB drives that have been taking a daily beating for 8 years and not died
[07:31] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, hello! i already toldya... you don't need to defrag in ubuntu... that alone should save your hard drive some wear and tear
[07:31] <Bugs> ketsugi: Oh...well maybe windows resolves that URL into a proper URL ?
[07:31] <CHodapp> Usually if drives are about to die, you can hear the bearings going out
[07:31] <sorush20> I'm unable to upgrade since I keep getting the message that there was an error downloading the packages.. I'm using adept and kde and using safe upgrade..
[07:31] <defunkt> whiter: in terms of system processes?
[07:31] <r0xoR> CHodapp, scsi?
[07:31] <ketsugi> Can't be
[07:31] <jjroper> Jowi, my swap is unused, but my memory is maxed out...and unfortunately, I am not sure what "/msg ubotu memory" means....
[07:31] <ketsugi> all the *.blogspot.com URLs map to the same IP address
[07:31] <CHodapp> r0xoR, IDE drives on the way to the dumpster if I didn't take them
[07:31] <zeelot> i followed every steps listed on the ubuntu wiki, troubleshooting,but every information shows that my wireless card is configured and driver's been loaded, just can't scan my AP....
[07:31] <jrk29> jjroper: just type "/msg ubotu memory"
[07:31] <lmortiz> hola estais vivos alguien
[07:31] <ketsugi> Ubuntu just chokes on the dash and thinks it's invalid
[07:31] <ketsugi> oh well
[07:31] <Amaranth> SurfnKid: no defrag needed, the ext3 filesystem is smarter about positioning files on the drive
[07:31] <ketsugi> I'll post in the forums
[07:31] <SurfnKid> r0xoR,  sweet, so can I turn off my hard drive after like 5 minutes...
[07:31] <thoreauputic> Quick visit... swarm speed on torrent currently 5.7MB/s - I'm uploading at 90KB/sec and now I'm going to bed :)
[07:32] <Avian00> Anybody at all, I am the only one having trouble with the repositories?
[07:32] <CHodapp> Has there been any Linux filesystem that needed defragging? Even ext1?
[07:32] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: whoa
[07:32] <kspath> lmortiz: #ubuntu is english
[07:32] <r0xoR> SurfnKid, uhhh, yeah you can use power saver mode just like any other computer :)
[07:32] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: :))
[07:32] <anto9us> zeelot, iwconfig lists your device but without an inet address?
[07:32] <SurfnKid> Amaranth, right r0xoR  keeps saying that so thats cool