[03:39] <rww> not an actual emergency ^
[07:58] <valorie> can we get !amd aliased to !ati ?
[10:33] <bazhang> ubottu, lag
 last_staff: do not run graphical applications with sudo
[10:57] <bazhang> is that still operable?
[10:57] <bazhang> ie gksu/gksudo etc
[11:05] <DGJones> I don't think I've read anything to say its not still appropriate
[11:05] <bazhang> I recall reading it was deprecated
[11:10] <DGJones> If it has been depreciated, !gksudo may need deleting/amending
[11:10] <bazhang> good point
[11:13] <DGJones> Just doing a bit of digging, from what  can see, the advice still seems to be around, what did change was that gksudo was no longer installed by default from 12.04 (and gksudo was just a symlink to gksu)
[11:14] <DGJones> bazhang: http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default
[11:15] <DGJones> However gksu is not recommended any more and it may be removed entirely from future issues of Ubuntu. In general the development team would prefer us not to use GUI applications as root but to use sudo and the command line instead.
[11:15] <DGJones> In the long term pkexec is preferred however it's not very easy to use at the moment.
[11:30] <bazhang> thanks DGJones !
[11:30] <bazhang> askubuntu has everything
[11:30] <DGJones> Still not certain if thats what you were thinking of
[11:31] <bazhang> yep
[12:15] <bazhang> those were from fuchs afaict k1l not some random source :)
[14:14] <Tm_T> meh
[14:14] <Tm_T> silly bot
[14:14] <Tm_T> @login
[14:14] <Pici> Theres a <seD>?
[14:15] <Tm_T> also silly paste from me
[14:15] <Tm_T> Pici: there's sed-like editing of factoids, yes
[14:15] <Pici> Tm_T: I know that.
 and ~= and =~ all do the same thing
[14:19] <Pici> tsimpson: neat. I wasn't aware that <sed> was valid.
[18:56] <Jordan_U> JuatDave in #ubuntu seems to be a bot linking to another channel/server. Did we sanction this?
[18:56] <Pici> yes
[18:56] <Pici> no
[18:56] <Pici> I mean, yes, that seems to be the case, no it was not sanctioned
[18:57] <Jordan_U> :)
[18:59] <k1l> http://www.irc-wiki.org/Janus yep, was a bot
[19:08] <rww> ugh, Janus. I might realname ban it
[19:13] <Pici> ikonia: he was just talking to me elsewhere, its pretty harmless.
[19:13] <ikonia> nah, he's not
[19:14] <ikonia> he's a network wide tool, normal hits the linux channels
[19:14] <Pici> Oh, I know hes annoying.
[19:17] <hoverboard> that was a harmless joke, could you please remove the ban
[19:18] <hoverboard> ikonia, I would appreciate it
[19:18] <rww> @btlogin
[19:28] <ikonia> hoverboard: sorry, I've not really got time for your silly jokes, you know the rules in the channel, you know the rules in all the other channels you fool around in, it's not starting here
[19:29] <ikonia> if one of the other operators disagrees they are welcome to remove the ban, but I'm not really interested in your silly behaviour joining our channels as you do with other ones
[19:30] <hoverboard> you're right
[19:30] <hoverboard> I apologize
[19:30] <ikonia> no problem
[19:30] <hoverboard> it was just a quick hello to pici, I realize now it may sway the moods of others
[19:30] <ikonia> hoverboard: it wasn't
[19:30] <ikonia> lets be honest
[19:31] <ikonia> this is your normal behaviour, and I'm just not interested in it starting up in #ubuntu
[19:32] <hoverboard> thanks for your time
[19:33] <ikonia> no problem
[19:34] <Pici> Lots of people with old releases lately.
[19:35] <ikonia> the bash problem seems to have raised a few people into a need for support situation
[19:38] <k1l> Pici: well, seems like they dropped 13.04 last days. so the now see that they get errors when running the update, that was useless anyway
[19:48] <rww> i saw an 8.10 one the other day, i was impressed
[19:48] <k1l> updates? who needs that?
[19:51] <rww> exactly. and when you point out they're EOL... "well, I don't have time to update this right now because it's a production server, can i just get the bash .deb from a supported version?"
[19:51] <rww> (not exact quote, paraphrased)
[19:51] <ikonia> that is the most frustrating part
[19:52] <k1l> yep. more support questions like this than i expected, tbh