[00:04] <penguin42> directhex: And how many programmers do you know that are sane?!
[00:06] <ali1234> there is no need to learn to build entire applications in assembly language but you do need to know stuff like the stack, pointers, calling conventions etc
[00:06] <ali1234> x86 is too complicated though
[00:28] <AlanBell> some people start from the electronics end and go to arduino stuff
[00:51] <Azelphur> penguin42: I'm sane sometimes \o/
[00:51] <penguin42> Azelphur: Prove it
[00:51] <Azelphur> Moo.
[00:51] <penguin42> damn!
[04:13] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Ubuntu and QML - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/12/04/ubuntu-and-qml/
[08:04] <czajkowski> morning
[08:08] <czajkowski> AlanBell: https://plus.google.com/102921374554385564572/posts/8sVoWjFj6jG
[09:36] <AlanBell> oooh
[09:37] <czajkowski> AlanBell: aye :)
[09:50] <daubers> Morning
[09:51] <czajkowski> daubers: ello
[09:54]  * daubers warms up the soldering iron
[10:12]  * danfish alerts the fire brigade in daubers area :)
[10:12] <daubers> :p
[10:14] <MartijnVdS> Time for a morning/recovery run
[10:24] <popey> odd czajkowski that link doesnt work for me
[10:24] <popey> ah, ok now .. odd
[10:25] <czajkowski> popey: should do you're in the groups I posted to
[10:25] <czajkowski> canonical, Ubuntu, UK Geeks
[10:26] <popey> no, its because i have multiple google accounts, that link doesnt work
[10:26] <popey> i have to massage it
[10:26] <czajkowski> ahhh
[10:26] <czajkowski> so you're the awkward one :)
[10:26] <popey> no, google is
[10:26] <shauno> I have to add /u/1/ into them too.  their permalinks aren't so perma
[10:26] <popey> exactly shauno
[10:27] <czajkowski> ah I see
[11:02] <Myrtti> semi-authentic English breakfast ♥
[11:02] <Myrtti> (no English sausages)
[11:03] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[11:03]  * MartijnVdS sticks to sesame rolls with "komijnekaas"
[11:05] <MartijnVdS> (cheese with cumin)
[11:10] <daubers> bah
[11:10] <daubers> stupid arduino ide
[11:11] <Myrtti> I've got so many wishes for Christmas presents but I'm sadly low on ideas what to give others
[11:11] <Myrtti> (Lilypad Arduino is on my list for Santa)
[11:16] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: Pirate Fluxx (or any other Fluxx)
[11:17] <Myrtti> if it's not available in Finnish, then no :-(
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: hm.. there's a Dutch, German, Spanish and Japanese version
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: (and English of course)
[11:18] <Myrtti> no Finnish so no go :-(
[11:18] <jonsaint> hi all. can anyone recommend software for making a mp3 cd??
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> jonsaint: soundconverer
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> uh
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> soundconverter
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> it converts any music you have to MP3, then you just select the MP3s in brasero
[11:19] <jonsaint> and that makes a mp3 cd?
[11:19] <MartijnVdS> no it converts your music to mp3s suitable for MP3 cds
[11:19] <Myrtti> mp3 cd is just a cd with mp3's in it
[11:19] <jonsaint> i got the mp3 files but looking for something to burn the mp3 music to cd
[11:19] <Myrtti> jonsaint: even the filemanager itself should be able to burn, you don't need any special app for it
[11:20] <Myrtti> brasero is of course nice
[11:20] <jonsaint> Myrtti, so all i do is burn it as a data cd?
[11:20] <Myrtti> what I would check is your cd player first
[11:21] <Myrtti> does the manual say if there is a limit on how many directories it can recurse into
[11:21] <jonsaint> my car cd is mp3 compoatible as i already play mp3 in there
[11:21] <Myrtti> atleast in the misty hazy days of mp3 cd players there were limitations in the directory depth
[11:22] <jonsaint> il give it a try
[11:22] <Myrtti> yeah, it should just work
[11:23] <jonsaint> cheers for the help
[11:43] <brobostigon> gwibber 3.3 seems alot more resource friendly, but the gui, is still so sluggish.
[11:46] <siriusly> I am quite liking Hotot as an alternative
[11:47] <brobostigon> siriusly: i havent tries yet, what protocols can it deal with?
[11:48] <siriusly> brobostigon:   just Twitter & Identica and since I dont use FB it's not a problem
[11:48] <brobostigon> siriusly: ah, ok.
[11:49] <siriusly> I want to like Gwibber and I know it has come on in leaps bust as you say the GUI is  still quite sluggish
[11:49] <siriusly> Bu*
[11:50] <siriusly> although I do like the way it's integrated into the desktop experience
[11:50] <brobostigon> hence, i do use mustard and seesmic more, on my phone, for thiese purposes.
[11:51] <siriusly> Yeah I have seesmic on my android phone too
[11:55]  * brobostigon is weird though, using launchpad ppa's inside debian.
[12:44] <penguin42> wow, I never knew there was a snowman in unicode
[12:45] <penguin42> although, to be honest in this font I couldn't tell what it was
[12:46] <Myrtti> hm
[12:48] <Myrtti> where does gwibber store all the messages it has fetched?
[12:48] <penguin42> although I'm getting lost in Wikipedia looking up the other contents of 'Miscellaneous Symbols'
[12:48] <Myrtti> ☕
[12:49]  * penguin42 fails to find what the 'Permanent paper sign' ♾  is for
[12:55] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: http://archive.ifla.org/IV/ifla64/115-114e.htm ?
[12:56] <penguin42> well, I've learnt something - and I've not even had breakfast yet
[12:59] <penguin42> hmm, I'll go and cure that 2nd part
[13:00] <brobostigon> i suppose, mixing ppa's and normal debian repos inside debian. will only be an issue, if things start to clash. afterall a ppa, is basiclly, a normal debian repo.
[13:35] <popey> moo
[13:35] <AlanBell> phpmyadmin in precise looks very shiny
[13:35] <MartijnVdS> moo?
[13:35] <jacobw> o/
[13:36] <AlanBell> cluck
[13:36]  * AlanBell wonders when the chickens are going to start laying
[13:36] <bigcalm> AlanBell: isn't phpmyadmin just a web app and not tied to a specific distro?
[13:36]  * jacobw is a fan of the chickens
[13:37]  * brobostigon asks the air force not to send any loud planes over AlanBell's house.
[13:37] <AlanBell> bigcalm: sure, but I just added the version from the repos and it has been updated and looks shiny
[13:37] <bigcalm> Aha
[13:38] <bigcalm> I forget that some web apps make it into the repos. Which is good and bad. Most web apps are constantly out of date
[13:38] <AlanBell> yeah, I wouldn't do wordpress from the repos, but phpmyadmin I can't be bothered to install myself
[13:38] <AlanBell> it can have security issues so I often uninstall it after using it
[13:39] <bigcalm> Indeed
[14:11] <penguin42> splittety split
[14:12] <czajkowski> penguin42: network upgrade
[14:12] <penguin42> ah!
[14:12] <occupy64k> Changes in the matrix?
[14:12] <czajkowski> penguin42: if you look at global notices
[14:12] <czajkowski> 14:11 [freenode] -Martinp23(martinp23@freenode/staff/martinp23)- [Global  Notice] Wheeeeee. The main part of this week's upgrades is done.  Thanks for your patience and I hope you enjoyed the ride... Our last  round of ircd upgrades is next week, so don't miss the fun :)
[14:17] <penguin42> there have to be ways to do ircd upgrades more transparently
[14:19] <ali1234> copyover, but it is a pain to implement it
[14:21] <ali1234> file descriptors are preserved across execve() but you have to reallocate all your data structures etc
[14:21] <penguin42> nod, just a serialise/deserialise
[14:42] <penguin42> is https://dl-ssl.google.com/android/eclipse 404 for everyone else?
[14:59] <brobostigon> ok, empathy in debian sid, not connects to msn, so they must have updated something, that isnt in bitlbee on my vps in lucid.
[14:59] <brobostigon> now*
[15:23] <jutnux> Howdy
[15:29] <BigRedS> penguin42: yep, from here
[15:30] <penguin42> hmm ho hum, apparently it works for some people in some places
[15:30] <penguin42> worked last week
[17:54] <jutnux> Hey popey, when is the next podcast up? :)
[18:02] <popey> jutnux: we record this tuesday
[18:02] <popey> also http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/calendar/ :D
[18:03] <jutnux> Good good.
[18:17] <awilkins> I am vexed. My computer now refuses to boot Ubuntu, even from a LiveUSB. But it still boots Windows fine.
[18:17] <awilkins> It ran mprime for an hour (when Ubuntu still booted) with no trouble. It runs Memtest86 through a full pass with no errors. Grr.
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: have you adjusted the boot order?
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> have you checked the boot bits of the liveusb?
[18:18] <awilkins> MartijnVdS: Nope... the LiveUSB has worked for some time too
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> strnge
[18:18] <MartijnVdS> stränge even
[18:19] <awilkins> It's been flaky for a few weeks - but only in Ubuntu. Hardlocks and resets
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> file bugs!
[18:19] <awilkins> Windows will play Skyrim for hours and only suffers from the usual crashing level you'd expect from a Bethesda game
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> ah
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> nvidia
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> I guess?
[18:19] <awilkins> Yes
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> I've just found the source of your problems ;)
[18:20] <awilkins> I may swap the card out for the older 8800
[18:20] <BigRedS> I've an nfs mount over what I suspect to be a flaky network. Is there a favourite tool that I can use to do a massive volume of realistic-loking I/O on it to see if I can make it fail while I'm awake?
[18:20] <awilkins> MartijnVdS: It even had the crashes when I was running Nouveau
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: cp ubuntu.iso /mnt/nfs
[18:20] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: \o/ lots of i/o
[18:27] <BigRedS> MartijnVdS: yeah, that was my first thought :)
[18:27] <BigRedS> Wondered about a bunch of random reads/writes. But it's all on vms, so I've no idea where the actual bits being flipped are
[18:29] <penguin42> BigRedS: Bit flips? A flaky network should never actually make flaky data in the actual files
[18:33] <MartijnVdS> bit flips sounds like a broken nic
[18:33] <MartijnVdS> also, that should be caught by checksum algorithms on several levels
[18:33] <BigRedS> no, there aren't any bit flips, just the device goes away
[18:33] <MartijnVdS> try running nfs over tcp -- if you still get corrupted data, you want to start suspecting the disc/controller
[18:34] <BigRedS> what I meant was that traditionally I'd want to be reading and writing all over the place, rahter than just one file
[18:34] <penguin42> BigRedS: What do you mean 'goes away' - sorry, please be a bit more precise
[18:35] <BigRedS> Apache processes (which are reading off it) end up in D state and the mount point is empty. It's actually gluster, not nfs, too
[18:35] <penguin42> ok, sounds like you have a gluster specific problem then
[18:36] <BigRedS> yeah, I just want to se what's going on when it fails
[18:36] <penguin42> BigRedS: anything in dmesg?
[18:37] <BigRedS> are those logged anywhere to survive between boots?
[18:37] <penguin42> should end up in /var/log/kern.log
[18:37] <penguin42> or possibly /var/log/syslog
[18:37] <BigRedS> yeah, nothing in syslog
[18:39] <BigRedS> and only complaints by apache about the sudden disappearence of the fs
[18:39] <BigRedS> I'll just cp a CD a few times and see what happens
[18:40]  * penguin42 assumes gluster has some monitoring stuff
[18:41] <BigRedS> yeah, I've inherited somebody else's mess
[18:41] <penguin42> ah
[19:31] <jutnux> popey: Went to make cake in a cup but had no self raising flower :'(
[19:32] <jutnux> Don't know if you remember that article ;)
[19:32] <MartijnVdS> jutnux: do you have baking powder?
[19:32] <MartijnVdS> add that to the flour :)
[19:32] <jutnux> MartijnVdS: Not that I know of.
[19:32] <jutnux> MartijnVdS: Silly mother made cake earlier and used all of the sr flower.
[19:33] <jutnux> Because it looks really nice :'(
[19:36] <penguin42> jutnux: Well, obviously you should take a slice of the cake instead
[19:36] <jutnux> penguin42: Been there, done that, gained 8 stone ;)
[19:37] <penguin42> jutnux: And you do better with cakes in a cup?!  When I do that they're quite substantial - I don't use a small cup :-)
[19:38] <jutnux> I've never had cake in a cup before hahaha. I have a massive beer mug type cup so that will be fine :)
[19:38]  * penguin42 puts lots of cocoa, chocolate chips and a spoon of marmalade in
[19:39] <jutnux> Marmalade? :-O
[19:39] <MartijnVdS> jutnux: at least it's not marmite
[19:39] <jutnux> Gross.
[19:39] <jutnux> I hate Marmite.
[19:39] <penguin42> jutnux: Yeh Marmalade - gives a nice orange taste; orange and chocolate go really well
[19:40] <jutnux> I'll probably get some self raising flower on the way home tomorrow then make it.
[19:40] <jutnux> I wish more people would move off of facebook
[19:40] <jutnux> then I could shut down my account.
[19:47] <jutnux> I swear lifehacker is going downhill
[19:55] <jacobw> marmite contains vitamin b which makes people less aggressive
[19:55] <jacobw> conclusion, marmite lovers are better people :)
[19:55] <jutnux> A wide variety of foods contain vitamin B6, including potatoes, bananas, beans, seeds, nuts, red meat, poultry, fish, eggs, spinach,
[19:56] <jacobw> i unlaterally shutdown my facebook again 2 years ago
[19:57] <jutnux> Wish I could
[19:57] <jutnux> Why do people customise unity arghhh
[19:57] <jutnux> Especially when they make it look disgusting
[19:58] <jacobw> people customise everything
[19:58] <jutnux> True
[19:58] <jutnux> Just had some cheesecake, feel proper sick.
[19:58] <jutnux> Worth it though.
[19:58] <jacobw> it doesn't sound as such
[19:59] <jutnux> Raspberry cheesecake, can't go wrong ;)
[19:59] <Myrtti> I didn't even realise you could customize Unity
[20:00] <jacobw> you can even customise gnome3
[20:00] <MartijnVdS> they fixed that now?
[20:00] <jacobw> haha
[20:00] <jacobw> i'm sure their working on it
[20:00] <jacobw> i want to see someone make kde look like gnome3
[20:01] <MartijnVdS> 8-)
[20:01] <jutnux> Didn't someone make LXDE look like XP?
[20:02] <jacobw> gnome is quite easy to make look like XP
[20:03] <jacobw> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1058
[20:03] <Myrtti> I knew GnomeShell can be customised. Haven't found out how Unity can.
[20:03] <popey> define $customised
[20:08] <Myrtti> colours, sizes, backgrounds, etc
[20:08] <Myrtti> I can't find out how to remove the workspace switcher
[20:09] <Myrtti> etc.
[20:09] <Myrtti> well, havent really looked
[20:10] <popey> compizconfig-settings-manager lets you do a fair amount
[20:11] <AlanBell> I have just found the launcher icon size slider
[20:11] <jutnux> I only really found the uses of workspaces last year
[20:12] <Myrtti> I use keyboard shortcuts for switching anyway
[20:12] <Myrtti> I'm really disappointed how audio_bell works in GnomeShell but not in Unity
[20:12] <Myrtti> I can't even figure out why
[20:12]  * AlanBell goes to file a bug in unity
[20:12] <jacobw> i'm pleased all the new desktop shells are using keyboard shortcuts
[20:13]  * jacobw loves keyboard control
[20:13] <AlanBell> keyboard control is good, but it isn't complete
[20:14] <Darael> ISTR that some change was made deliberately to stop audio_bell working in Unity.  Don't know how, but I'm sure it's intentional.  Don't think it's a good thing, either, but there you go.
[20:15] <Myrtti> intentional? erh. I'd prefer it to be configurable like it is in GnomeShell.
[20:15] <Myrtti> one feature that Gnome hasn't managed to remove
[20:18] <BigRedS> Unity's less good at keyboard than Gnome 2 was IMO
[20:21] <Myrtti> I wonder how I manage to find new problems in my system almost on daily basis
[20:21] <Myrtti> now I want to know which spellchecker drivel uses but seem to be unable to locate info about it
[20:22] <MarquessDeBonBon> What's all this Alt+click business?
[20:25]  * AlanBell wonders what MarquessDeBonBon is on about
[20:25] <jutnux> AlanBell: I think he means in Gnome-Shell how you can move the dockable things.
[20:58] <awilkins> MartijnVdS, Damn machine won't even boot the alternate installer for Natty now. Just gets to a flashing text cursor on a black screen...
[20:58] <awilkins> Hardware failures that favour Windows over Linux..
[20:58] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: I'd say it's a hardware issue then
[20:58] <awilkins> It's almost like MS made a firmware virus
[20:58] <Myrtti> iiiiiiiiiiii snow
[20:58] <Myrtti> ♥
[20:59] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: snow?
[20:59] <awilkins> It boots the loader, syslinux
[20:59] <Myrtti> snow.
[20:59] <awilkins> Then when you try and get past that to the initrd etc flashy cursor
[20:59] <awilkins> Even with "nosplash"
[20:59] <awilkins> Badger sputum.
[21:00] <Darael> That's one of the more interesting expletives I've seen.
[21:00] <awilkins> Darael, Not mine... one of Douglas Adam's
[21:00] <Darael> So it is.  How could I have forgotten?
[21:10] <roachy> evening all :)
[21:11] <jutnux> Howdy.
[21:18] <roachy> quiet in here tonight....
[21:25] <jutnux> Hahhahahaha, someone on a forum took apart a Lithium Ion battery and put it in the bin.
[21:25] <mgdm> o_O
[21:25] <jutnux> Moments later the bin was on fire.
[21:25] <jutnux> He didn't understand why until after he put the fire out.
[21:25] <zleap> lol
[21:25] <zleap> Lithium + h20 = flames
[21:26] <zleap> or does it combust in air,
[21:26] <jutnux> Nope
[21:26] <jutnux> H20 it burns.
[21:26] <jutnux> I think
[21:26] <Darael> It oxidises in air, but not rapidly enough to burn.  In water, on the other hand...
[21:27] <zleap> what if there is high humidity
[21:27] <zleap> just out of interest
[21:27] <Darael> I don't actually know, but I'd assume if it's high enough it'll "spontaneously" combust.
[21:27] <zleap> Darael,  You ever seen caesium in water
[21:27] <jutnux> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjreO2quGsM
[21:27] <Darael> Yup.  Boom.
[21:28] <Darael> Francium would be even more impressive, if they could get it to remain stable for long enough...
[21:28] <zleap> LiHO should that be LiOH
[21:29] <jutnux> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCk0lYB_8c0 - All of the metals :L
[21:29] <zleap> http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=SjowQJMS-W4
[21:30] <zleap> francium bomb test
[21:30] <zleap> which is not a proper descriptionof the video really is it
[21:30] <Darael> Francium and fluorine would be particularly impressive, I should think.
[21:30] <jutnux> It's Hydrogen bomb test haha.
[21:31] <zleap> yeah i kinda thought it looked odd for francium in water
[21:31] <zleap> isi t really that rate
[21:31] <zleap> rare
[21:31] <jutnux> Presumably
[21:32] <jutnux> Reacts with air so quickly I guess.
[21:32] <AlanBell> there was a mythbusters episode where they were messing about with irresponsible quantities of reactive metals
[21:33] <Darael> That it reacts with air wouldn't make it rare, merely difficult to get the pure stuff.
[21:33] <Darael> It's rare because it's unstable, and decays quickly.
[21:33] <jutnux> I guess.
[21:33] <zleap> yeah
[21:33] <zleap> http://www.chemicool.com/elements/francium.html
[21:33] <jutnux> " less than 30 g of it exists on Earth at any given time. "
[21:34] <zleap> i really miss having a periodic table program I had on win3.1  it gave detailed decay trees for elements
[21:34] <jutnux> I wish I was alive for 3.1 :-(
[21:34] <AlanBell> so not something the mythbusters could easily chuck in a bucket of water to see what happens
[21:34] <zleap> however on win95  it really seemed to eat memory
[21:34]  * AlanBell remembers windows 2
[21:34]  * MartijnVdS too
[21:34] <zleap> and me
[21:35] <MartijnVdS> had it on my dad's XT
[21:35] <MartijnVdS> well clone
[21:35] <zleap> we had that ast college when loadingf adobe pagemaker (well it says windows 286)
[21:35] <MartijnVdS> zleap: that's 3 I think?
[21:35] <zleap> ah
[21:35] <MartijnVdS> 3.0
[21:35] <zleap> that maks sense as i got my first pc while at college that had 3.1
[21:36] <jutnux> I got my first PC when I was 4.
[21:36] <zleap> it was also that first pC on which i started to play with Linux
[21:36] <jutnux> Good ole learning land!
[21:36] <zleap> yes all the networked machines you could go into gwbasic and type shell to get a command prompt, on the non networked machines this was blocked
[21:36] <zleap> lol
[21:37] <jutnux> My school security is terrible.
[21:37] <zleap> what is funny is you tell people and they just dismiss it
[21:37] <jutnux> Unplug the network cable, bring up cmd prompt, plug it back in and you have a command prompt connected to the network.
[21:38] <zleap> lol
[21:38] <zleap> i take it that is due to a bug (or for us feature) in windows
[21:38] <jutnux> Maybe.
[21:38] <webpigeon> say probably RM being RM
[21:39] <jutnux> Also they let me create an account on the local machine.
[21:39] <jutnux> Change the admin password on the local machine
[21:39] <zleap> yes i got an old rm machine ones, guessed the bios password pretty easy RM
[21:40] <webpigeon> heh, you are meant to change those :P
[21:41] <jutnux> I was taking an MCAS exam (got offered to me for free, don't smite me) and the Vista PC got a BSOD.
[21:41] <jutnux> Was so funny.
[21:41] <czajkowski> thenn /c
[21:41] <zleap> lol
[21:41] <webpigeon> jutnux: what you don't know is that it was part if the test :P
[21:41] <webpigeon> s/if/of/
[21:42] <jutnux> Either way
[21:42] <jutnux> I sat there
[21:42] <jutnux> for 30 minutes
[21:42] <jutnux> whilst they replaced everything
[21:42] <jutnux> HDD and Ram failure apparently
[21:42] <webpigeon> at the same time?!
[21:42] <jutnux> Yes
[21:42] <jutnux> Apparently
[21:42] <MartijnVdS> webpigeon: Static shock can do that
[21:42] <MartijnVdS> or lightning
[21:43] <jutnux> Probably static
[21:43] <webpigeon> MartijnVdS: still, decent surge protector...
[21:44] <webpigeon> and don't poke things when it's running :P
[21:45] <jutnux> I messed up a laptop like 6 years ago
[21:45] <jutnux> By hoovering it
[21:45] <MartijnVdS> Uh.. how?
[21:45] <jacobw> bad
[21:45] <jutnux> I was 10 and knew no better.
[21:45] <jutnux> Static build up.
[21:45] <MartijnVdS> by spinning the fan?
[21:45] <MartijnVdS> and the fan acting as a small generator?
[21:46] <jutnux> Don't know
[21:46] <jacobw> hoovers generate a lot of static
[21:46] <jutnux> But now I keep a can of compressed air, only cost me like £5.
[21:46] <jutnux> Any stories of your cock-ups guys?
[21:48] <jacobw> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/my-10-unix-command-line-mistakes.html
[21:48] <jacobw> i read this a little while ago, it made me laugh a few times
[21:49] <webpigeon> Thanks for the link
[21:49] <jutnux> Yeah, thanks. This is funny hahhahah
[21:54] <zleap> on the subject of batteries http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2fD-hYVLxE&feature=related&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D6RNVDmtTcS4%26feature%3Drelated
[21:55] <ali1234> i always hoover out my computer
[21:55] <zleap> 52 x 9v = 468v  which is more than what you get on 3 phase (415) and mains (240 / 110)
[21:55] <jutnux> ali1234: I sometimes do when I have no compressed air.
[21:55] <ali1234> compressed air just blows the crap around
[21:55] <jutnux> Not if you aim ;)
[21:55] <jutnux> See you later anyway guys.
[21:55] <jutnux> Have a good night ;)
[21:57] <zleap> careful with compressed air and any condensation
[22:17] <Myrtti> AlanBell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/769314
[23:22] <prime> ...........
[23:23] <prime> ...
[23:23] <Azelphur> where's Pac-Man when you need him
[23:23] <prime> who?
[23:24] <Azelphur> Pac-Man, he's the guy that eats all the dots.
[23:27] <webpigeon> Azelphur: think he's hanging out with the arch lot
[23:27] <Azelphur> I see
[23:28] <AlanBell> ᗤ
[23:28] <Azelphur> woo it's pacman
[23:28] <webpigeon> Awww, unprintable char
[23:28] <AlanBell> ᗣ......•...ᗤ
[23:28] <AlanBell> ghost is in trouble
[23:29] <Azelphur> hehe
[23:30] <webpigeon> Unicode Character 'CANADIAN SYLLABICS CARRIER TTE'
[23:30] <webpigeon> there is me thinking there was UTF8 pacman :(
[23:33] <popey> haha, excellent AlanBell