[09:32] <jpentland> Hi, I tired placing a new .conf file in /etc/init but it seems that it isn't being recognised as a service, what could be the reason for this?
[09:52] <jodh> jpentland: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#init-checkconf
[14:00] <zlin> on ubuntu 12.04 is there a way to make upstart interpret an init script as a native upstart job, rather than as a shell script?
[20:57] <bjrohan> Hi. I an trying to run a script to start a minecraft server in screen. It appears to me that screen is not starting before I call it in upstart. How may I make sure screen is started before it is needed in my script? Currently I have start on (screen and runlevel [2345]) which doesn't appear to work
[21:59] <cschneid> I have a status of: `spark-master stop/killed, process 18321` -- how do I really kill it? that process doesn't exist
[22:22] <bjrohan_> Hello
[23:19] <bjrohan> can anyone help me get a n upstart script to be able to run screen before I run the script? I am having issues getting this to happen


[01:02] <CRXLPY> is it possible to use mythtv to play an iso created in mytharchive?
[01:02] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, I don't see why not
[01:02] <tgm4883_laptop> mythvideo plays iso's
[01:03] <CRXLPY> ok so I run mythvideo on the command line?
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> err, no
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> IIRC your iso should be in your video dir right?
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> do you have mythvideo installed?
[01:04] <CRXLPY> it is in the mytharchive work dir
[01:06] <tgm4883_laptop> ok you can either move it to the video directory or make mythvideo also use the mytharchive directory
[01:06] <CRXLPY> ok ty
[01:07] <tgm4883_laptop> then just either rescan your movie collection or enable browse mode and you should be able to play it in there
[01:07] <tgm4883_laptop> off to eat
[01:26] <CRXLPY> is there a free listings service for mythtv and us-cable?
[01:31] <rhpot1991> CRXLPY: not any longer
[01:32] <rhpot1991> just pay for SD, its well worth it
[01:32] <CRXLPY> thanks
[01:39] <darthanubis> just noticed today my video playback starts real fast, then stops for 4sec, then repeats that cycle
[01:40] <darthanubis> ffmpeg got updated today dunno if that had an effect?
[01:40] <darthanubis> I have not rebooted, only restarted the backend
[01:40] <darthanubis> this is not cool
[01:41] <darthanubis> What could I do to remedy this? Ever heard of this before?
[02:16] <CRXLPY> ok I been looking for a while but no solution found yet. I cant get rid of scratchy audio. I have seen kludges that kinda fix it but only so much and not permanently. besides they require source code edits and were done with older versions of mythtv.
[02:49] <tgm4883_laptop> CRXLPY, PVR-500?
[02:53] <CRXLPY> was afk sorry
[02:53] <CRXLPY> wintv tuner card but not a pvr
[02:53] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop^^
[02:54] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, don't know then
[02:54] <tgm4883_laptop> you could try changing the audio input to see if it fixes it
[02:55] <CRXLPY> where is the audio input seting, I dont see it
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> do it from the command line while watching live tv
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> i can give you the command for my pvr-500
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> but i don't guarentee its the same
[02:56] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[02:57] <tgm4883_laptop> i have to change it away, then back
[02:57] <tgm4883_laptop> v4l2-ctl -d 0 --set-audio-input=0
[02:57] <tgm4883_laptop> then
[02:57] <tgm4883_laptop> v4l2-ctl -d 0 --set-audio-input=1
[03:00] <CRXLPY> do it while I watch tv?
[03:05] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[03:05] <tgm4883_laptop> that way you can see if it fixes it
[03:05] <CRXLPY> tgm4883_laptop I dont have a v4l2-ctl  nor do I see it in synaptic
[03:07] <CRXLPY> I guess I will run v4l-ctl instead
[03:07] <CRXLPY> I dont have that either
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[03:08] <tgm4883_laptop> IIRC it's in ivtv-tools
[03:08] <CRXLPY> I am running mythbuntu 8.04
[03:09] <CRXLPY> this card does not use the ivtv module
[03:12] <CRXLPY> the ivtv module is for cards with the mpeg2 chip like the pvr-*50's
[03:24] <MythbuntuGuest07> Hi there! I was wondering if someone copuld suggest a good HTPC case that would work well with Mythbuntu.
[03:27] <MythbuntuGuest07> I was looking at the Thermaltake DH102 VH2001BNS or something similar. Any help will be a big help, thanks!
[03:29] <CRXLPY> you are looking for hdtv/atsc/qam card I assume?   or an analog tv?(pal/ntsc)
[03:30] <CRXLPY> any hauppauge card will work (WinTV PVR-xxxx)
[03:31] <CRXLPY> the mythtv site has a list of compatable cards
[03:31] <MythbuntuGuest07> It would be an hdtv but primarily I would like to get the drivers for the case working. I'll pick up the other bits on the way.
[03:32] <CRXLPY> MythbuntuGuest07 here ya go http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Tuner_Card#Cards_that_work
[03:32] <CRXLPY> wintv pvr-1600
[03:32] <darthanubis> are we talking cards or cases?
[03:32] <CRXLPY> card
[03:33] <MythbuntuGuest07> No sorry man I'mtalking about the case.
[03:33] <CRXLPY> I dont know what the case driver would be... I just get a powersupply for cases
[03:33] <darthanubis> becaus eyou typed "card" above
[03:33] <darthanubis> Cases don't have drivers
[03:33] <darthanubis> why would they?
[03:34] <CRXLPY> ask MythbuntuGuest07 he says he needs case drivers
[03:34] <MythbuntuGuest07> I'm looking for a good HTPC case. Most have some sort of drivers for XP and Vista. The drivers anr for things like the remote or a touch panel. I'll post the link.
[03:35] <darthanubis> weird
[03:35] <darthanubis> the touch panel?
[03:35] <CRXLPY> oh, ic, I thought thermaltake sounded wierd for a card
[03:35] <MythbuntuGuest07> http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/desktop/dh102/vh2001bns.asp
[03:35] <darthanubis> I would not worry about any drivers
[03:35] <darthanubis> unless you plain on running Vista
[03:36] <darthanubis> otherwise, drop the driver stuff
[03:36] <darthanubis> and just worry about getting a good
[03:36] <darthanubis> card
[03:36] <darthanubis> cases are cases
[03:36] <MythbuntuGuest07> That's the link if someone want to have a look.
[03:36] <darthanubis> look on newegg and pick a case
[03:36] <CRXLPY> it looks flashy, are you trying to make one to sell?
[03:37] <darthanubis> yeah looks cool
[03:37] <MythbuntuGuest07> No it's for me. It's a project for fun.
[03:37] <darthanubis> but I'd go for something more simple
[03:37] <MythbuntuGuest07> Maybe it's too ambitious.
[03:38] <darthanubis> http://www.qrdc.com/Quiet_Computer_PC_Parts/Silent_HTPC_Case
[03:39] <MythbuntuGuest07> Thanks dartthanubis!
[03:39] <MythbuntuGuest07> sorry darthanubis...
[03:39] <darthanubis> np
[03:40] <darthanubis> you like that page;)
[03:43] <MythbuntuGuest07> Thanks for the help guys, much appreciated!
[03:46] <CRXLPY> np
[03:46] <CRXLPY> I was away looking for stories with linux and that case..... found none
[03:50] <MythbuntuGuest07> Yea I didn't have much luck either. Too bad. I can think of a bit of fun to be had with that touch screen. If only I knew how to do something with it. I'm not goiung to get it if I have to be stuck using XP or Vista. Linux need s more support from hardware manufactures.
[03:51] <CRXLPY> give it 2-3mos it will be working. meanwhile you can get the restof the bugs worked out using a simple pc case
[03:53] <CRXLPY> I just want my audio to stop scratching
[03:53] <MythbuntuGuest07> Yea that sounds like the plan. Thanks again for all the help. I'm sure I'll be asking again. Cheers!
[04:02] <CRXLPY> darthanubis do you have input on my scratchy issue? I am using a wintv tuner card (not a pvr) so I dont use the ivtv module therefore I dont have v4l2-ctl which seems to be involved in alot of fixes that I have found
[04:03] <darthanubis> frontend playback settings
[04:04] <darthanubis> enable audio buffering see if that fixes it
[04:04] <darthanubis> how is your regular system audio,? Is it scratchy as well?
[04:12] <CRXLPY> afk sorry
[04:12] <CRXLPY> bak now
[04:14] <CRXLPY> I am starting up kdetv to check audio through it
[04:23] <CRXLPY> sound is fine through the card darthanubis. I can hear no noise at any volume using the line input, but the line input is out of sync, of course
[04:25] <CRXLPY> the scratchy comes in on the captured audio from the tuner
[04:29] <darthanubis> enable audio buffering see if that fixes it
[05:37] <rickwookie> Hi there, anyone able to help me figure out why I can't start mythbuntu-control-centre?
[09:32] <laga> rickwookie: open a terminal, type "mythbuntu-control-centre", hit return and look for error messages
[09:55] <Loki6> Hello I have some ideas to improve the MythBuntu manual and the contect of two of the MythBuntu website pages. Can someone tell me who I need to speak about this or where to begin?
[09:55] <laga> Loki6: #ubuntu-mythtv-dev
[09:56] <laga> most devs read the back log
[09:56] <Loki6> Where can i find the backlog?
[09:57] <laga> no, i meant to say that you should go there and tell us what you want to tell us and people will read it. i'll read it right now and discuss it ;)
[09:57] <laga> i'm not sure if we have public logs for the developer channel
[09:58] <Loki6> I started developing on MythTV a few week ago but because I really like MythBuntu, I would like to help with that as well
[09:59] <Loki6> because I needed to read a lott about these projects I discovered some gaps in the documentation someone who works on it would nog see as soon.
[09:59] <laga> well, then come to #ubuntu-mythtv-dev
[10:00] <Loki6> ow by the way, i juist remembered I talked to you some time ago about adding a section to the manual about DVB-s and paytv setups. I've finished this and it ready to add to the documentation
[10:00] <laga> cool :)
[10:01] <Loki6> I already have more that 50 people using it in holland, also its being used by the Dreambox community to replace their older dreamboxes
[10:01] <Loki6> way cool
[10:01] <laga> very nice
[10:01] <Loki6> They also helped me find easy way to add channel listing for wich I will write something for myth
[10:02] <Loki6> yesterday I received a technotrend DVB-C 1501 card to test it on cable
[10:02] <laga> are you going to work on mythtv's channel scanner?
[10:03] <Loki6> I discovered MythTV follows the dvb protocol a litte to strict, so that needs some work
[10:03] <Loki6> If people lett me, i would be glad to work on it
[10:03] <laga> well, it's more like broadcasters not following the DVB specs but smoking crack instead :)
[10:03] <Loki6> YOU ARE RIGHT
[10:03] <laga> Loki6: you should talk to danielk, he's working  on a rewrite of the channel scanner
[10:04] <laga> you can often find him as danielk22 in #mythtv
[10:04] <Loki6> ok
[10:04] <Loki6> Ik will
[10:04] <laga> but he's not near a computer this weekend, so you might try the mailing lists
[10:04] <Loki6> about the scanner
[10:04] <Loki6> ok on gossammer i think?
[10:04] <laga> well, you can't write mails thru gossamer
[10:04] <laga> look on mythtv.org
[10:05] <Loki6> I know how... i'm already registered to the mailing list
[10:05] <laga> ah, great
[10:05] <Loki6> about the scanner if you have the time
[10:06]  * laga has lots of spare time :)
[10:06] <Loki6> ha ha ha
[10:06] <Loki6> thats cool... I would like to have that to
[10:06] <Loki6> but a man needs to make time for his hobbies
[10:06] <Loki6> ;)
[10:06] <laga> summer break \o/
[10:06] <laga> yes
[10:07] <Erhapp> Hello
[10:07] <Loki6> in two week I will... till then I need to work a little over... our goverment just decided to build new biometric systems and I'm the bleading engineer on it eh leadengineer i mean
[10:08] <Erhapp> Can anybody help me setting up my frontend box so that upon boot it wakes my backend using WOL. (The WOL part on the backend is working, I just don't now how to set up the frontendbox)
[10:10] <Loki6> about the scanner of myth, its indeed following the dvb standard, but most dvb boxes have extra configuration options: you can set the frequency, network ID (and symbol rate, QAM format which you don't need to change)
[10:10] <Loki6> Because you can see myth as een advance dvb box (sorry for the analogy) myth should support this as well.
[10:11] <laga> yeah, i think i remember some problems because of the NID.. you need to set it for some networks
[10:11] <Loki6> As I see it now, people need to use dvbapps to scan their channels to the database
[10:12] <Loki6> I have not tested it yet, my tt budget card is winking to me... but promised my girl to get some food first (Women tend to have their fridge stuffed with this stuff)
[10:12] <laga> yay, food
[10:12] <Loki6> yes indeed, like ziggo in the netherlands
[10:13] <Loki6> yah food: guys just use caffee and pizza but girls... the need to be difficult about it ;)
[10:13] <Loki6> don't let her hear it...
[10:14] <Loki6> laga about the mythBuntu website...
[10:14] <laga> as i said (twice already), it's better to join #ubuntu-mythtv-dev so that the other guys see it
[10:15] <Loki6> excuse... ill do that in a minut
[10:15] <Loki6> erhapp did you look at the mythTV wiki?
[10:15] <Loki6> your question is explained their, i can get you the url if your still here
[10:16] <Loki6> If not I won't bother ;)
[10:17] <Erhapp> loki6: Yes I did look at the wiki but I could find anything that fits
[10:17] <Erhapp> loki6: I would love to get the url.
[10:21] <loki0> excuse got disconnected because of a experiment... stupid stupid
[10:21] <loki0> still there?
[10:21] <loki0> the url: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Wake-on-LAN
[10:21] <Erhapp> yep
[10:22] <loki0> look at the part about the eh magic packet you need to send
[10:22] <loki0> you just need to send it from you startup script...
[10:22] <Erhapp> Ok, I saw that page
[10:22] <laga> um
[10:22] <laga> you can just use mythfrontend for that?
[10:22] <Erhapp> so that is the part i was missing
[10:22] <loki0> explainations about startup scripts you can find anywhere on the net
[10:22] <laga> there is a setting somewhere ;)
[10:22] <loki0> jups
[10:23] <Erhapp> So I need to put the command in the startup script?
[10:23] <loki0> okay... i'm still in the learning proces to and as a programmer I tend to do stuff the technical way
[10:23] <Erhapp> Or did laga mean that you could als do it in mythfrontend?
[10:24] <loki0> yes you can do that
[10:24] <loki0> but laga just suggested there is a setting somewhere for this
[10:25] <Erhapp> Laga: How would I do it from mythfrontend?
[10:25] <loki0> an idea: could you add this kind of command to you boot loader? so the backend is there almost at the same time as the backend?
[10:26] <Erhapp> I'm not sure I can answer your question Loki. If you can explain it to me I'm willing to try it...
[10:27] <laga> loki0: you nee da network connection to send the magic pack..
[10:27] <laga> err
[10:28] <Erhapp> laga: I understand that part. But how do i make the frontend send the package?
[10:28] <loki0> again my connection was lost :(
[10:28] <laga> loki0: you nee da network connection to send the magic packet.. so you can't do it in the boot loader.
[10:28] <laga> Erhapp: you can configure a wake on lan command in mythfrontend
[10:29] <loki0> yah thought about it while my connection was comming back ;)
[10:29] <loki0> your right
[10:29] <Erhapp> laga: ok, and were should i do that?
[10:29] <loki0> laga the command before or after loading the frontend executed?
[10:30] <loki0> because I think it would be beter to execute it before... this saves a few seconds
[10:32] <loki0> look at page 80 of the manual its somewhere near that page
[10:33] <loki0> erhapp I need to ask some questions on the dev channel and that do some other stuff... hopes this helped you solving your problem
[10:33] <Erhapp> ok, what should i be looking for in the manual?
[10:34] <Erhapp> Just to make sure am searching in the right direction
[10:35] <loki0> just look at the page and it comes to you
[10:35] <loki0> you can get the installation manual from MythBuntu.com
[10:37] <loki0> in that page its explained where to configure this kind of stuff after that you can experiment a little. Just remember or write down what you changed.
[11:45] <rickwookie> Hi there - again... ...in response to an earlier question I posted - when I run mythbuntu-control-centre at the end of the error traceback I get: AttributeError: ControlCentre instance has no attribute 'mb_apple_trailers_checkbox'
[11:46] <laga> rickwookie: are you running intrepid
[11:46] <rickwookie> yep
[11:46] <laga> well, then file a bug report please
[11:47] <zagibu> i can watch dvb-c streams from my card just fine in mplayer with mplayer dvb://"channelname", but HD channels don't play...why?
[11:47] <rickwookie> Where do I do that. I mean is that a separate place for mythbuntu bugs?
[11:47] <zagibu> and yes, I DO have a HD card
[11:48] <laga> zagibu: they are probably encrypted?
[11:48] <laga> your mplayer doesn't support h.264 good enough?
[12:21] <zagibu> they are not encrypted
[12:22] <zagibu> and they are listed as mpeg/4 in my frequency table not h.264
[12:24] <zagibu> i also have the problem that mythtv can't get an F-LOCK on any channel, but I guess this has to do with the fact that it doesn't fill in the database correctly when doing the channel scan
[12:25] <zagibu> i've read about it somewhere and I am confident that a resolution exists...
[12:29] <rickwookie> bug filed
[12:37] <MythbuntuGuest57> hi
[12:40] <Mazga> hi
[12:45] <Mazga> i´ve tried mythbuntu and i´ve to say great!, i have installed front and backend an one PC now i wanna have one or more backends with about 5 frontends - i know its possible but can someone explain me when the tv cards are only in the backends presents how do the frontend select there tvchannel? or i have to put one tv card for each frontend user?? i´m asking because i still have three diferent tv cards built in, dvb-t, dvb-s2 a
[12:48] <laga> Mazga: if you don't get an answer, try posting in the forum (or search it first). i've got to run now
[12:49] <Mazga> i think i´ve time ;)
[12:49] <Mazga> i´m looking for such a system about half a year and i think mythbuntu is the right think for me
[12:59] <zagibu> wel, if you want to watch differnt channels on all frontends, then you need a tuner for each frontend, yes
[13:01] <zagibu> maybe there are dual-tuner dvb cards available, to make hardware installation a bit easier
[13:04] <Mazga> ok i know one tuner one tv channel
[13:05] <Mazga> but if i have 3tv crads and 5 frontends and 3 of 5 wanna watch tv how they can seect there tv card?
[13:06] <Mazga> how does the frontend1 kowns which tv cards is not in use?
[13:06] <jduggan> coz the backend tells it
[13:07] <Mazga> and if every three tv tuner are in use which msg got frontend nr.4 that theres no free tv card?
[13:07] <zagibu> yeah, the backend automatically selects an available card
[13:08] <Mazga> but not on every tv card are the same stations available eg: dvb-t != dvb-s2
[13:08] <jduggan> Mazga: also, check out multirec if you think you're likely to fill all three tuners :)
[13:10] <zagibu> i think you could make different videosources for each card, so that they have separate channel lists...not sure, though
[13:12] <zagibu> i have my own share of problems...if I do a czap -r "SDTV-Channel", i can do a cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 and get some output
[13:13] <zagibu> but if I do a czap -r "HDTV-Channel", i get nothing with cat...and my network operator told me that NO channels are encrypted, not even HD channels
[13:14] <zagibu> maybe the drivers are not yet ready for hdtv?
[14:50] <aclose72> good day everyone
[14:50] <aclose72> can someone tell me how to verify what video driver i'm currently using?
[14:50] <aclose72> i'm running MythBuntu 8.04 with the latest updates
[14:51] <aclose72> i have an Intel G35 chipset and would like to use the latest Intel driver
[14:51] <aclose72> i selected use OSS driver during setup
[15:05] <aclose72> looking through dmesg output i see that at startup an Intel 965G chipset is detected
[15:08] <darthanubis> os[Linux 2.6.24-19-generic x86_64] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E4600  @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 41.6% free] disk[Total: 299.8GB, 59.2% free] video[Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[15:08] <aclose72> looking at the Xorg logs, i'm seeing Intel 965 G1 Integrated Graphics Controller rev 3
[15:08] <aclose72> and Intel unknown chipset
[15:09] <aclose72> i 'think' it's loading the I810 Intel driver
[15:11] <jduggan> i think 'intel' is the recommended driver to be using these days
[15:11] <aclose72> yeh, that's what i want to use
[15:12] <aclose72> but i'd like the latest that supports the G35 chipset
[15:12] <aclose72> so i'm trying to verify what i'm currently running
[15:12] <aclose72> and then upgrade if possible
[15:12] <darthanubis> if you look in synaptic, you'll see the intel package and the i810 package installed
[15:15] <aclose72> ah.
[15:16] <aclose72> i see them under xserver
[15:17] <aclose72> looks like the version i have of the 810 is 2:1.7.4-0ubuntu7
[15:18] <aclose72> and there's another intel driver that supports the 965 chipset listed as 2:2.2.1-1ubuntu13.4
[15:18] <aclose72> both are installed
[15:18] <aclose72> but which one is running/loaded?
[15:21] <aclose72> looking at the intellinuxgraphics.org site, it looks like the latest driver is 2.4
[15:22] <aclose72> anyway to determine if the synaptic db contains that version?
[15:22] <aclose72> or maybe it hasn't been bundled yet, so it's not available except as source..?
[15:23] <darthanubis> type glxinfo
[15:23] <aclose72> in synaptic or terminal?
[15:23] <darthanubis> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945G 20061017
[15:24] <darthanubis> terminal
[15:24] <darthanubis> Look for that line
[15:24] <aclose72> gotta install the mesa-utils package first :)
[15:26] <aclose72> Mesa DRI Intel 965G 4.1.3002 x86/MMX/SSE2
[15:27] <darthanubis> looks like its using the correct driver
[15:27] <darthanubis> what glxgears give you?
[15:28] <aclose72> some sharp lookin gears :)
[15:28] <aclose72> 7865 frames in 5 s
[15:28] <aclose72> 1572.884 fps
[15:29] <aclose72> picture and everything looks good
[15:29] <aclose72> i'd just like to be able to make use of the HDMI out on this board
[15:29] <darthanubis> have you tried using it?
[15:29] <aclose72> ASUS P5E-VM HDMI
[15:30] <aclose72> yeah, bios and boot show up
[15:30] <aclose72> but then i get a blank screen
[15:30] <aclose72> maybe there's a way to toggle between the display outputs?
[15:31] <darthanubis> maybe
[16:07] <aclose72> hm, not sure what i did.  but the HDMI out is working now :)
[16:08] <aclose72> thx again darthanubis
[16:08] <aclose72> now on to the next battle ;)
[16:08] <darthanubis> np:)
[16:16] <brewmaster> i just did a fresh install of mythbuntu, and i can't get mythtv-setup to run without giving me "Can't connect to database?"
[16:16] <brewmaster> i can't seem to find any solution
[16:17] <brewmaster> tons of people have posted in various forums
[16:17] <brewmaster> i believe i have the proper qt / mysql packages installed
[16:17] <brewmaster> any ideas?
[16:17] <aclose72> when you did the install, did you accept all the defaults?  or did you attempt to customize the installation?
[16:18] <aclose72> did you make any changes to the IP address related stuff i guess is what i'm getting at :)
[16:18] <brewmaster> i used the alternate install CD
[16:18] <brewmaster> no, localhost, port 3306
[16:18] <aclose72> and the ports are the default ports?
[16:19] <brewmaster> yep
[16:19] <brewmaster> i even ran dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-commom and mythtv-database
[16:20] <aclose72> i'm not sure what those two would do for you since you install that stuff by default
[16:20] <aclose72> are you seeing any errors or anything in the logs?
[16:21] <aclose72> check '/var/logs'
[16:21] <brewmaster> sec
[16:25] <brewmaster> http://pastebin.ca/1076706
[16:26] <aclose72> did you change the password to the db during setup?
[16:27] <brewmaster> no, but i have since
[16:27] <aclose72> that could be the prb
[16:27] <brewmaster> it still matches /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[16:27] <brewmaster> i.e., it was changed as well
[16:27] <aclose72> and who are you logged in as?
[16:27] <brewmaster> i just tried a 'grant all privileges on *.* ' for the mythtv user
[16:27] <brewmaster> lemme see if it works...
[16:31] <brewmaster> that did it
[16:31] <aclose72> :)
[16:31] <aclose72> cool
[16:34] <brewmaster> next problem ... :(
[16:35] <brewmaster> my capture card is driving me crazy
[16:35] <brewmaster> kworld 120 FTL!
[16:35] <brewmaster> i could only get analog OTA working in MCE
[16:36] <aclose72> i'm no help there
[16:36] <aclose72> i don't have  kworld card
[16:36] <aclose72> i'm still trying to sort out my HDHR :)
[16:44] <brewmaster> heh
[16:44] <brewmaster> i'm so pissed i bought this card
[16:44] <aclose72> have you checked out the wiki for info on it?
[16:44] <aclose72> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php
[16:45] <brewmaster> yeah, my card is experimental
[16:45] <aclose72> ah
[16:45] <brewmaster> so i got the most recent v4l-dvb source and compiled
[16:45] <brewmaster> i'm not sure what to do next
[16:45] <aclose72> :)
[16:45] <brewmaster> i.e., how to get /dev/videoX file to show up
[16:45] <aclose72> sorry, i can't help you there
[16:45] <aclose72> i'm still fairly linux illiterate
[16:46] <aclose72> i know just enough to get myself into trouble :)
[16:46] <brewmaster> heh
[16:55] <aclose72> hmm, i just attempted to record a half hour show which looks like it completed when looking in the recording manager
[16:56] <aclose72> however, when selected, it says myth cannot find the file
[16:56] <aclose72> i see the file on the fs in my /media/storage1 dir, which was configured as one of my storage groups dirs
[16:57] <darthanubis> may need to reconfigure your mythdatabase
[16:57] <aclose72> ?
[16:57] <aclose72> through the control centre?
[16:58] <brewmaster> is the 2.6.24-19 kernel held back for any reason?
[16:58] <aclose72> or mythtv-setup?
[16:58] <darthanubis> whatever makes you comfortable
[16:58] <darthanubis> I'd recommed dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[16:58] <darthanubis> or use gkdebconf
[16:58] <aclose72> brew, on the myth mailing list i've seen some discussion regarding current/newer kernels having some issues
[16:59] <aclose72> thx darth, i'll give that a try :)
[16:59] <brewmaster> can i force it?
[16:59] <brewmaster> my capture card only works with <IP_ADDRESS>...
[16:59] <aclose72> you may want to look into the know issues first
[16:59] <darthanubis> thats the lates kernel
[17:03] <aclose72> darth, before i run that command :)  i'm trying to figure out what it does
[17:03] <aclose72> is it only to reset the root password for mysql?
[17:03] <aclose72> i'm not having any db connection issues that i can see
[17:04] <darthanubis> the cmd will tell you exactly before any changes are made
[17:04] <darthanubis> think abou tit
[17:04] <darthanubis> and why would I have you reset your root pw to mysql?
[17:04] <darthanubis> makes no sense
[17:05] <darthanubis> your mythtv database may be misconfigured
[17:06] <darthanubis> after its reconfigure then you may want to repair and or optimize the database, which can be done from mythweb, or phpadminmysql
[17:06] <darthanubis> or you can read up about it
[17:10] <darthanubis> yourrecording files that myth does no see...thats a databse issue
[17:11] <darthanubis> myth looks at the database to tell you if the file exist or not
[17:11] <aclose72> yep
[17:11] <aclose72> just ran the dpkg-reconfigure command
[17:11] <aclose72> i didn't get any msgs on the console
[17:12] <darthanubis> did you run it on mythtv-databse package?
[17:12] <aclose72> and don't see anything in the mysql logs/errr files
[17:12] <aclose72> yes
[17:12] <darthanubis> because you did not follow directions to the letter
[17:12] <aclose72> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database
[17:12] <aclose72> hmm, maybe i don't know what my root password is :)
[17:15] <aclose72> ok, tried it with a bogus passwd and got an error
[17:15] <darthanubis> sudo apt-get install gkdebconf
[17:15] <aclose72> so i think the passwd i originally used was good
[17:15] <darthanubis> that will give you a frontend to dpkg-reconfig
[17:15] <darthanubis> much easier
[17:15] <aclose72> i do get Starting MySQL database Server mysqld after running the cmd
[17:15] <aclose72> but no other output
[17:18] <darthanubis> run gkdebconf
[17:18] <darthanubis> find mythtv-database
[17:18] <darthanubis> click it
[17:19] <aclose72> done
[17:20] <aclose72> localhost, root, entered my passwd
[17:22] <darthanubis> does your mythweb work?
[17:22] <aclose72> it did :)
[17:22] <aclose72> checking again now
[17:23] <aclose72> yeah, still able to connect and see the guide
[17:23] <darthanubis> goto the mythweb mian menu and goto database, and repair and optimize it
[17:24] <darthanubis> then check "recorded programs" and see if your files are there
[17:24] <aclose72> it says everything is status ok
[17:25] <darthanubis> still run the repair and optimize cmds
[17:25] <aclose72> recorded prgms shows title and other meta-data info
[17:25] <aclose72> the thumbnail is blank/question mark
[17:25] <darthanubis> you can delete it and rerecord another program
[17:25] <darthanubis> or
[17:26] <darthanubis> use phpadminmysql to find the entry in the database and manually delete it
[17:26] <darthanubis> I've had to do this one or twice
[17:26] <aclose72> k, i'll give that a try
[17:26] <darthanubis> my sure in recorded details you are showing ALL programs
[17:26] <aclose72> it was a test recording :)
[17:28] <aclose72> deleted via mythweb
[17:28] <aclose72> should i manually remove the mpg from my storage group?
[17:28] <aclose72> it's still sitting there
[17:28] <darthanubis> now I've deleted via mythweb, where it deleted nothing
[17:28] <darthanubis> yes
[17:30] <darthanubis> does mythweb still show the file in the database?
[17:32] <aclose72> no, all cleaned up
[17:32] <darthanubis> good
[17:32] <aclose72> i just kicked off two new recordings through the front end guide
[17:32] <aclose72> i see them in mythweb with thumbnails now
[17:32] <aclose72> we'll see how they turn out
[17:32] <aclose72> i think my channel config may still be  a bit off
[17:33] <aclose72> for testing i've tried watching live tv and some of the channels just give me a blank screen
[17:33] <aclose72> i'm sure i've got their xmlid's set up correctly
[17:34] <aclose72> double checked that
[17:34] <aclose72> and i see guide data for everything now
[17:34] <aclose72> i only have 10 channels to go through, so it's not too ba
[17:35] <darthanubis> 10?
[17:36] <aclose72> i only have an HDHR hooked up
[17:36] <aclose72> and only get 10 unencrypted channels
[17:39] <aclose72> i can view one of the recordings in progress
[17:39] <aclose72> when attempting to view the other it just gives me a blank screen
[17:40] <aclose72> even though in the view recordings pane i see an animted thumbnail
[17:41] <sebrock_> just made an upgrade here to Hardy and I get a lot of ata6.00 errors "soft resetting link", anyone seen this before?
[17:41] <aclose72> nope
[18:08] <aclose72> i'm reading through the Optimizing Performance page on the mythtv wiki
[18:08] <aclose72> since i'm using XFS for my storage directories, i've updated fstab to use allocsize-512m as suggested
[18:09] <aclose72> looking at the HD DMA Access section i've run the hdparm /dev/sda command
[18:09] <aclose72> i'm not seeing the output i expect :)
[18:10] <aclose72> aclose@MythBoxHD:~$ sudo hdparm /dev/sda
[18:10] <aclose72>  IO_support    =  0 (default)
[18:10] <aclose72> 16-bit)
[18:10] <aclose72>  HDIO_GET_UNMASKINTR failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:10] <aclose72>  HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:10] <aclose72>  HDIO_GET_KEEPSETTINGS failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:10] <aclose72>  readonly      =  0 (off)
[18:10] <aclose72>  readahead     = 256 (on)
[18:10] <aclose72>  geometry      = 38913/255/63, sectors = 625142448, start = 0
[18:10] <aclose72> any thoughts?
[18:13] <aclose72> brb
[18:23] <darthanubis> hdparm -tT /dev/sda
[18:36] <aclose72> cached reads clock at 1874 MB/sec
[18:36] <aclose72> buffered reads clock at 76 MB/sec
[18:37] <aclose72> do either of those tell me if DMA is turned on? :)
[18:37] <aclose72> i suspect it is since i set it up in the bios
[18:37] <aclose72> i thought...
[18:45] <tgm4883_laptop> hdparm -I /dev/sda
[18:48] <aclose72> sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda
[18:48] <aclose72>  HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:48] <aclose72> sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda
[18:48] <aclose72>  HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:48] <aclose72> sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda
[18:48] <aclose72>  HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:54] <aclose72> i was trying to check this out because a couple of my test programs look as though they recorded, and i can see the animated thumbnails in recording manager, but when attempting to play them i just get a blank screen
[18:55] <aclose72> top doesn't show that the machine is struggling wth anything
[18:55] <aclose72> it shouldn't
[18:55] <aclose72> :)
[18:56] <aclose72> hmm, but looking at the mythfrontend output shows otherwise
[18:56] <aclose72> Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) 11
[18:57] <tgm4883_laptop> aclose72, post output of hdparm -I /dev/sda
[18:58] <aclose72> k, just a sec, rebooting
[18:58] <spiritssight> Is any one will to either call me or allow me to call them from the USA and get help to get my system running, I have been trying for about a month now and still don't have thing up and running as they should be
[18:59] <spiritssight> I am going away tomorrow and would like to know that when I come back I will be able to use my system including my TV
[19:03] <jack_> I've been trying to get my Hauppauge HVR 1800 working with MythTV.  Could someone help me get started with it?
[20:16] <aclose72> i'm still seeing some weird behaviour when watching specific recordings
[20:16] <aclose72> they show up in the manage recordings and have their animated thumbnails
[20:16] <aclose72> but when i attempt to play them i get a blank screen
[20:17] <aclose72> some of the output in the mythfrontend log looks like it could be errors
[20:17] <aclose72> but i'm not sure :)
[20:17] <aclose72> i'll snip a section and post it on pastebin...
[20:19] <aclose72> http://pastebin.ca/1076896
[20:20] <aclose72> the first 13 lines are obviously errors :)
[20:20] <aclose72> then i see mention of MVs not available, ac-tex damaged,
[20:21] <aclose72> i'm making these recordings with an HDHR
[20:21] <aclose72> my machine should have more than enough power to play these back
[20:28] <aclose72> hmm, one thing i notice when running mythtv-setup
[20:29] <aclose72> when i exit i get the message that setup was unable to write to my storage groups
[20:29] <aclose72> i'm guessing that's because i'm logged in as aclose and not mythtv
[20:29] <aclose72> mythtv has full rights to those dirs
[20:30] <aclose72> i know there's a mythtv user on the system installd by default
[20:30] <aclose72> but i'm automatically logged in as aclose whenever the machine is booted
[20:30] <aclose72> could that be causing my weird issue?
[20:31] <darthanubis> no
[20:32] <darthanubis> is your user part of the mythtv user group
[20:32] <darthanubis> ?
[20:38] <aclose72> yeah, i am
[20:39] <aclose72> mythtv:x:110:ubuntu,aclose
[20:41] <aclose72> mythtv owner & mythtv group have full rights to all storage group dirs on my machine
[20:42] <darthanubis> switch to the mythtv user and go into that dir and try to create a test file
[20:42] <darthanubis> with the touch command
[20:43] <darthanubis> sudo su mythtv
[20:43] <aclose72> will do
[20:44] <aclose72> yep, no prob there
[20:45] <darthanubis> weird
[20:45] <darthanubis> have you logged off and back on?
[20:45] <darthanubis> since adding that group?
[20:45] <aclose72> yeah.  i've rebooted several times since install
[20:46] <aclose72> i was added to the mythtv group when i installed/configured i believe
[20:46] <darthanubis> dunno where the permissions could be wrong
[20:46] <aclose72> but everytime i come out of mythtv-setup it asks me if i know what i'm doing cause it can't write a test to the storage group dirs :)
[20:46] <darthanubis> it totally sounds permissions related
[20:47] <aclose72> yeah, i agree
[20:47] <darthanubis> I had a bad permission issue like that once before
[20:47] <darthanubis> it was maddening
[20:47] <aclose72> for the most part it seems to be recording
[20:47] <aclose72> so the backend is reading and writing from the storage groups dir
[20:47] <darthanubis> is it storing to that dir?
[20:47] <aclose72> yeah
[20:47] <darthanubis> well your straight then?@?
[20:48] <aclose72> it goes back and forth between /media/storage1 & /media/storage2
[20:48] <aclose72> i'm only kinda straight
[20:48] <aclose72> that ddin't come out right :)
[20:48] <darthanubis> ??
[20:48] <darthanubis> lol
[20:48] <aclose72> it appears to be recording
[20:49] <aclose72> but i can't always play back the recording
[20:49] <darthanubis> playback via what?
[20:49] <darthanubis> the frontend?
[20:49] <aclose72> mythfrontend
[20:49] <aclose72> yeah
[20:49] <darthanubis> weird
[20:49] <aclose72> looking in the recording manager i see the recorded vid
[20:49] <aclose72> and it has the little animated thumbnail displaying
[20:50] <aclose72> when i select that vid, the screen blanks and sits for a bit
[20:50] <aclose72> lots of stuff gets spitout to the FE.log
[20:50] <aclose72> http://pastebin.ca/1076896
[20:52] <darthanubis> seems to be dependent upon what type of video you try to play
[20:52] <darthanubis> did you install all of the codecs?
[20:52] <aclose72> yep
[20:52] <darthanubis> like restricted formats
[20:52] <aclose72> these vids are recorded via HDHR though
[20:53] <aclose72> so they are mpg2
[20:53] <aclose72> but yes, i did install the extra codecs from control panel
[20:53] <darthanubis> #2008-07-19 12:46:45.009 [mpeg2video @ 0xb73feb88]Warning MVs not available
[20:54] <darthanubis> that does not sound good?
[20:54] <aclose72> :) nope
[20:54] <darthanubis> I'm not an expert. I just get my issues fix alone mostly
[20:54] <aclose72> i spose i could try uninstalling the extra codecs and reinstalling them...
[20:54] <darthanubis> So I have time, to try to help you deduce the problem
[20:55] <aclose72> well i appreciate the help :)
[20:55] <darthanubis> np
[20:55] <darthanubis> #
[20:55] <darthanubis> 2008-07-19 12:46:46.038 [mpeg2video @ 0xb73feb88]ac-tex damaged at 32 17
[20:55] <darthanubis> plenty of errors
[20:56] <darthanubis> you should try analog verse digital recordings etc
[20:56] <darthanubis> I'd also add mediuntu repos to your apt sources via synaptic or whatever
[20:56] <darthanubis> if you have not already
[20:58] <aclose72> looing through synaptic right now
[20:58] <darthanubis> no
[20:58] <darthanubis> google medibuntu
[20:58] <aclose72> oh
[20:59] <darthanubis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#Adding the Repositories
[20:59] <aclose72> i see.  repository howto :)
[20:59] <darthanubis> good
[20:59] <darthanubis> I like you
[20:59] <darthanubis> you catch on quick!
[20:59] <aclose72> heh.  i try to do some leg work before i beg for help
[20:59] <aclose72> i just haven't gotten too far
[20:59] <darthanubis> thats excellent!
[20:59] <darthanubis> thats how its done
[21:00] <darthanubis> once you have the medibuntu repo added
[21:00] <darthanubis> update your system
[21:00] <darthanubis> some myth stuff should get upgraded
[21:01] <aclose72> k
[21:05] <aclose72> hmm.  i updated the repo list, or created it; and added the gpg key
[21:05] <aclose72> when running the update manager it didn't find anything new
[21:05] <aclose72> even after hitting check
[21:06] <aclose72> i see medibuntu in the /etc/apt/source.list.d/ dir
[21:06] <aclose72> do i need to reboot before trying to use it?
[21:12] <aclose72> well, i did do an update a couple hours ago and it found new stuff
[21:12] <aclose72> so even though i wasn't querying the medibuntu repo i did get an update
[21:13] <aclose72> and i do show all the proprietary codecs back in the list
[21:14] <darthanubis> it did not update immediately for me either
[21:15] <aclose72> oh, ok
[21:15] <darthanubis> did you enable proposed and backports?
[21:15] <darthanubis> if you have not , I did
[21:15] <darthanubis> much more updates than just long term release setup
[21:15] <aclose72> are you on 7.10 or 8.04?
[21:16] <darthanubis> 8.04
[21:16] <darthanubis> 8.04.1
[21:16] <darthanubis> actually;)
[21:19] <Obeah> I just installed 8.04 as a frontend only. It's not seeing all the recordings... what could be going on?
[21:19] <aclose72> yeah, it looks like all the hardy related repos are available in the default sources.list
[21:19] <aclose72> did you connect it to your backend?
[21:20] <Obeah> It's connected through a router via ethernet
[21:20] <aclose72> when you did the FE install, it should have asked you if you have a BE running and for its IP address
[21:21] <aclose72> are you sure you gave it the correct address?
[21:21] <Obeah> Yeah it picks up 6 or 7 of the shows but theres more it doesn't seem to see
[21:21] <LyosNorezel> can mythbuntu fit in a 1-2GB SD card?
[21:21] <darthanubis> and is th ebackend running mythtv .021?
[21:22] <Obeah> Haven't looked at that... it's been installedand working fine for several weeks
[21:22] <aclose72> Obeah, your FE & BE have to be running the same version
[21:22] <aclose72> or at least speaking the same protocol :)
[21:22] <darthanubis> LyosNorezel, no
[21:23] <aclose72> the recordings that are missing, were they all recorded with your tuners?
[21:23] <Obeah> Iyes
[21:23] <aclose72> or are they videos that might be in your library?
[21:23] <Obeah> not videos
[21:23] <aclose72> so they're all mpeg2 files?  or nuv.
[21:23] <LyosNorezel> darthanubis: damn... I was hoping I could cram the OS onto an SD card and use a FreeNAS server for the video files
[21:23] <Obeah> no nuv
[21:24] <aclose72> do you have storage groups configured?
[21:24] <aclose72> on the BE?
[21:24] <Obeah> I guess the recording it is seeing were recorded before I re-installed the new Mythbuntu version
[21:24] <aclose72> and maybe not set up on the FE
[21:24] <Obeah> no storage groups
[21:24] <darthanubis> brb
[21:25] <aclose72> are any of the recordings you're seeing currently on the BE?
[21:25] <Obeah> the frontend is 8.04.1 and the master f/b end is just 8.04
[21:25] <aclose72> or are they all on the FE?
[21:25] <Obeah> everything shows on the BE
[21:25] <aclose72> that's good
[21:25] <Obeah> the FE is FE only
[21:25] <aclose72> right
[21:26] <aclose72> but some of the shows on the BE are not showing up on the FE
[21:26] <aclose72> are they all in the same dir?
[21:26] <Obeah> If there's differences btwn the 8.04 and 8.04.1 wouldn't the updates bring it to the same versions of everyhting?
[21:26] <Obeah> yes... same dir
[21:26] <aclose72> you're ok on version
[21:27] <aclose72> can you check the file permissions on those files?
[21:27] <aclose72> are they all owned by mythtv?
[21:27] <aclose72> and all in the group mythtv?
[21:27] <Obeah> yes.. Just a sec, I'll ssh and see
[21:28] <Obeah> Can't think... what's the default dir for recordings?
[21:28] <aclose72> i think it's /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[21:29] <Obeah> yeah
[21:31] <aclose72> were you able to determine file permissions?
[21:31] <Obeah> ok...haven't looked at every file but so far the owner of the MPEGs is "avahi-autoipd - Avahi autoip daemon"
[21:32] <aclose72> ?
[21:32] <aclose72> that doesn't sound quite right :)
[21:33] <aclose72> and all of your recordings were made with Myth?
[21:37] <aclose72> Obeah, were all your recordings made by Myth?
[21:37] <Obeah> Hardy locked up after I posted the owner info
[21:37] <Obeah> Yes they were
[21:37] <aclose72> interesting
[21:37] <aclose72> on your backend, do all those programs show up in the db are regular recordings?
[21:38] <aclose72> i guess i mean, can you get to them on the frontend of your backend :)
[21:38] <Obeah> Yes the master FE?BE plays them no problem
[21:38] <aclose72> if so, check your group listing on the BE
[21:38] <aclose72> 'cat /etc/group'
[21:39] <Obeah> ok
[21:39] <aclose72> see if that funky username is in there and part of any of your other groups
[21:40] <aclose72> i think the simplest fix is to just reset the permissions on those recordings
[21:40] <aclose72> chmod, chgrp back to mythtv
[21:40] <aclose72> then you should see them on your 2nd FE
[21:40] <Obeah> ok, I'll try it
[21:40] <aclose72> i'd keep an eye on that dir though
[21:40] <Obeah> I can chmod the whole dir?
[21:40] <aclose72> yeah
[21:40] <aclose72> i think it's chmod -R
[21:41] <aclose72> maybe little r
[21:41] <aclose72> :)
[21:41] <aclose72> but yes
[21:41] <Obeah> I'll look at the man
[21:41] <aclose72> -R
[21:41] <aclose72> --recursive
[21:41] <Obeah> ok
[21:41] <aclose72> same for chgrp -R
[21:43] <Obeah> join #mythbuntu
[21:44] <aclose72> i think you're already there :)
[21:44] <Obeah> lol
[21:44] <aclose72> i didn't think there was a separate mythbuntu channel
[21:45] <Obeah> thought that's what I joined???
[21:45] <aclose72> i think this is ubuntu-mythtv
[21:45] <aclose72> same diff really
[21:45] <darthanubis> you can try #mythtv-users
[21:45] <darthanubis> but they are a bunch of wiseasses
[21:46] <aclose72> :)
[21:46] <darthanubis> no ppl skills there
[21:46] <aclose72> i figured a distro specific irc would be a bit more helpful
[21:46] <aclose72> cause ppl here won't blame the distro and say go find help elsewhere :)
[21:46] <darthanubis> yeah
[21:46] <darthanubis> right
[21:46] <Obeah> I asked my first question there and got roundly chewed out because it was only vaguely related to myth
[21:47] <darthanubis> see
[21:47] <Obeah> last ? I asked!
[21:47] <aclose72> they probably have a lot more traffic there
[21:47] <darthanubis> they do
[21:47] <Obeah> Ok I'm gonna go have a look at the FE
[21:48] <Obeah> biab
[21:48] <aclose72> and probably a lot more n00bs :)
[21:48] <aclose72> hmm, still have some kinda hardware prob i'm guessing
[21:49] <aclose72> i just tried playing an HD avi wth mplayer through mythvideos and it exhibits the same behaviour as tv recordingswere
[21:49] <aclose72> blank screen
[21:49] <aclose72> ooh, but i get an X11 error in the frontend logs with this one :)
[21:50] <aclose72> error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[21:50] <aclose72> actually i've seen that one before :(
[21:50] <darthanubis> aclose72, is this a mythbuntu install or ubuntu with mythtv installed?
[21:50] <darthanubis> my backend is my desktop
[22:14] <Obeah> hmmm... permissions are 775 owner and group are both mythtv but the FE still doesn't see all the recordings
[22:14] <Obeah> maybe I need to restart the backend?
[22:20] <Obeah> I'm stumped!
[22:45] <joat> does anyone have a schema map for the mysql database for myth?  i'm trying to write a function that tells myth to rescan the tv (or video) folder
[23:36] <TheOther> I am trying to get ivtv running on hardy with a hauppage 350 card.  The framebuffer's working, but I can't start x.  I must be doing something wrong with my xorg.conf, but I can't tell what.


[12:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63245 in Ubuntu "Cannot alt + tab out of fullscreen games" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63245
[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63246 in kubuntu-meta (main) "get new stuff only works on highest rated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63246
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63247 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu doesn't correct for daylight savings (DST)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63247
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63248 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror crashes when using zip:/ kioslave with sigegv 11." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63248
[12:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63249 in kdebase (main) "Gwenview doesn't show the zip files in the browser." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63249
[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63252 in Ubuntu "Can't add printer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63252
[12:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63253 in Ubuntu "asus notebook is booting slowly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63253
[01:04] <pschulz01> Where are timezones set? locales? I'm looking at #63247
[01:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63254 in compiz (universe) "Packaging (Beryl AND Compiz packages)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63254
[01:18] <pschulz01> Can someone please close #63254? (Not to be fixed...)
[01:38] <gnomefreak> bug 63254
[01:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63254 in compiz "Packaging (Beryl AND Compiz packages)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63254
[01:39] <Fujitsu> pschulz01, you could always have closed it yourself.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> its closed
[01:41] <gnomefreak> i added a comment also ;)
[01:43] <pschulz01> gnomefreak: Ta!
[01:43] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:43] <pschulz01> Fujitsu: I can't see that option.
[01:44] <pschulz01> I can change status..
[01:44] <Fujitsu> Yes, it'd be to `Rejected'.
[01:45] <pschulz01> Fujitsu: Ahh.. I see.(wave hand) there is no 'closed' status.
[01:45] <Fujitsu> Rejected and Fix Released are the closed statuses.
[01:46] <pschulz01> Fujitsu: That makes sense to me :-)
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63257 in firefox (main) "Firefox, shutdowns automatically when using a flash player... " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63257
[01:49] <Fujitsu> gnomefreak, with #63257 you should have probably just changed the source package to flashplugin-nonfree.
[01:50] <gnomefreak> Fujitsu: thought about it but we dont support it
[01:50] <Fujitsu> We don't support the software in universe, but we still track bugs about it.
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63258 in xserver-xorg-driver-i810 (main) "Mouse cursor goes invisible after return from suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63258
[01:51] <gnomefreak> Fujitsu: we can fix the bugs in universe and most are supported multiverse last i heard was only repo not supported
[01:51] <Fujitsu> mplayer and co. are in multiverse as well, and we support them just as much as we do the stuff in universe
[01:52] <pschulz01> Are you 'tanking' the bugs?
[01:52] <pschulz01> gnomefreak: ?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> no should i be :)
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Fujitsu: multiverse is nonfree universe is extra
[01:56] <gnomefreak> we suppport the repos just not everything in them :)
[01:56] <pschulz01> No.. do people use WoW terms around here?
[02:07] <Fujitsu> gnomefreak, I know that multiverse is non-free, but it doesn't matter, we still need to take bugs on it.
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63259 in firefox (main) "Static lines across screen while scrolling" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63259
[02:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63260 in network-manager (main) "Crashes on upgrade to edgy" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63260
[02:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63261 in ubiquity (main) "Crashed during reinstall" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63261
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63262 in nfs-utils (main) "Package installation doesn't work correctly with update-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63262
[02:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63263 in Ubuntu "Edgy 6.10 Beta - Two floppy drives shown in Gnome but only have one installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63263
[02:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63264 in gnome-system-tools (main) ""disks-admin" missing from 6.10-beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63264
[02:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63265 in firefox (main) "Firefox fails to open in Ubuntu 6.0.6 LTS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63265
[03:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63266 in Ubuntu "GNOME don't start and the system hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63266
[03:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63267 in glade-3 (universe) "FTBFS on ia64; gladeui-scan segfaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63267
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63268 in Ubuntu ""Services" application in Ubuntu 6.0.6 LTS only shows currently active services and doesn't provide any mechanism to modify settings. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63268
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63269 in mesa (main) "Broken dependencies for libglu1-mesa-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63269
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63270 in gnome-applets (main) "Network monitor applet distorted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63270
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63271 in pmount (main) "ntfs-3g support for pmount" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63271
[03:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63272 in Ubuntu "Edgy - Language Support doesn't work for Japanese" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63272
[04:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63273 in ubuntu-meta (main) "GAIM should not be the sole irc client" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63273
[04:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63274 in wine (universe) "UVF exception request wine 0.9.22" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63274
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63276 in ksynaptics (universe) "Improper hint to enable modifacation of settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63276
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63277 in casper (main) "Doesn't work from USB devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63277
[04:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63278 in xfdesktop4 (main) "it crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63278
[04:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63279 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu Edgy Beta Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63279
[04:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63280 in xfce4-panel (main) "xfce4 panel crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63280
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63281 in xfce4-panel (main) "xorg crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63281
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63282 in kaffe (universe) "[UVF exception request]  kaffe 2:1.1.7-4 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63282
[05:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63283 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Live CD will not boot on my PC." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63283
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63284 in chromium (universe) "chromium hang when exit program in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63284
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63285 in Ubuntu "firegl_strub_register failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63285
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63286 in acpi-support (main) "hibernate.sh freezes on "modprobe thermal", anacron not started, kernel upgrades don't finish" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63286
[07:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63287 in kdebase (main) "Login screen menu button doesn't look like a menu button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63287
[07:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63288 in firefox (main) "-safe-mode command argument to firefox does not disable add-ons (extensions)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63288
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63289 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Serial port barely work on oldworld." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63289
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63290 in kdepim (main) "Crashing on Logoout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63290
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63291 in powernowd (main) "postinst freezes waiting for "powernowd.early start" to return" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63291
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63292 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Serial ports don't work together in oldworld" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63292
[08:37] <matid> http://librarian.launchpad.net/4566080/safe-mode.png
[08:37] <matid> Ooops, sorry
[08:38] <matid> I dropped it here by mistake
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63293 in hwdb-client (main) "Comments not saved if network test fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63293
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63294 in hwdb-client (main) "Should ask for computer make/model" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63294
[08:46] <jldugger> is there
[08:47] <jldugger> whoops
[08:51] <jldugger> so i found a bug that should be moved from gnome-applets to gnome-netstatus-applet. should i open a new bug under the correct package and mark it a duplicate, or is there a way to move a bug?
[08:52] <matid> jldugger: Yes, you can move it.
[08:52] <matid> jldugger: Simply, click on Affects: 'gnome-applet (Ubuntu)' and change the package
[08:53] <jldugger> ah
[08:53] <matid> jldugger: Can you see it?
[08:54] <jldugger> yea
[08:56] <jldugger> thanks
[08:56] <matid> No problem
[09:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63295 in Ubuntu "A bug within my BG Phonetic support?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63295
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63296 in deskbar-applet (main) "remembers all shortcut keys" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63296
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63297 in gnumeric (main) "ssindex crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63297
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63298 in rhythmbox (main) "Random Rhythmbox Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63298
[09:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63299 in apt (main) "rebuild apt with noopt option fails" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63299
[09:49] <simira> hmm
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63301 in update-manager (main) "Could not calculate upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63301
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63300 in totem (main) "totem-video-thumbnailer crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63300
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63303 in gnome-power-manager (main) "No sleep button in edgy?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63303
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63304 in xine-lib (main) "Old xine-lib causes crash in xine-based media players" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63304
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63305 in acpi-support (main) "Toshiba Tecra M7 fn keys don't create events" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63305
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63306 in usplash (main) "Theme doesn't fill the whole screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63306
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63308 in Ubuntu "Network not starting at boot time -EDGY" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63308
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63309 in pouetchess (universe) "If I do the first step with horse, the game crashes." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63309
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63310 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Arabic Typing Error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63310
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63311 in edgy-session-splashes (main) "Edgy spanglish" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63311
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63312 in vlc (universe) "Multipost TV from Free French ISP doesn't work anymore with VLC 0.8.6svn - 060930" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63312
[11:06] <Burgundavia> #63192
[11:06] <Burgundavia> bug #63192
[11:06] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 63192 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu web site does not say where I can buy a laptop with Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63192
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63313 in ubuntu-meta (main) "UBUNTU EDGY BETA: 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD freezes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63313
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63314 in Ubuntu "no support for realtek rtl8168 rtl8111" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63314
[11:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63315 in Ubuntu "pcHDTV HD-5500 not supported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63315
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63316 in Ubuntu "edgy eft no network" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63316
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63317 in xen-source-2.6.17 (universe) "ipw2200 firmware not loading" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63317
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63318 in cinepaint (universe) "Cinepaint not installable on edgy eft x86" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63318
[12:01] <ajmitch> Hobbsee!
[12:02] <Hobbsee> ajmitch!
[12:03] <ajmitch> what's up?
[12:06] <Hobbsee> not much, just got home
[12:07] <matid> Hi Hobbsee
[12:07] <Hobbsee> hey matid
[12:09] <matid> Hobbsee: How are you doing?
[12:09] <Hobbsee> i'm okay :)
[12:10] <matid> Good ;)
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63319 in Ubuntu "[edgy]  web browsing is excessively slow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63319
[12:12] <Hobbsee> matid: deal with that one.  ^ :P
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63320 in xorg (main) "XServer don't detect Display Resolution (not a driver problem)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63320
[12:23] <matid> Hobbsee: I'm not really sure what might cause the bug that you've mentioned. I bet it's ipv6, but still - that's more like a guess.
[12:23] <Hobbsee> true
[12:29] <gnomefreak> it could be pango slowing it down like it did in dapper
[12:30] <gnomefreak> there was a workaround for it. diabling pango in about:config/ or in the conf file
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63321 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Fans' control not working on iMac G5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63321
[12:31] <gnomefreak> i dont use ubuntu built FF anymore so i dont have the issue
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63322 in Ubuntu "Fails to install (6.10 beta on an iMac G5)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63322
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63323 in Ubuntu "Edgy eft beta and panasonic CF73" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63323
[12:40] <matid> I'm back ;)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> wb
[12:43] <matid> gnomefreak: I was wondering if you could come to the CC meeting on Tuesday. It starts at 1PM, so if you're not at work I'd glad if you could come and plead for me ;)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> yeah ill be there most likely
[12:44] <gnomefreak> matid: your up for membership?
[12:44] <matid> gnomefreak: yup
[12:46] <matid> gnomefreak: Thanks in advance ;)
[12:46] <gnomefreak> yw ;)
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63324 in bazaar (universe) "exceptions.UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63324
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63325 in kde-systemsettings (main) "systemsettings won't load the desktop_kde-systemsettings.mo translation in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63325
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63326 in libnss-ldap (universe) "Please sync libnss-ldap (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63326
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63327 in nautilus (main) "Crash on ejecting usb-disk." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63327
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63329 in ubiquity (main) "installer crached" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63329
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63330 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Not installed correctly after upgrade from dapper to edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63330
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63331 in firefox (main) "Tearing off address bar leaves menus disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63331
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63334 in postgresql-8.1 (main) "Please sync postgresql-8.1 (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63334
[01:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63328 in ubiquity (main) "Fails to install (6.10 beta on an Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi Laptop)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63328
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63332 in gnopernicus (main) "Gnopernicus crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63332
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63333 in librsvg (main) "Gnome-panel continous increasing of used memory." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63333
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63335 in libnotify (main) "patches in debian/patches are not applied" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63335
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63336 in update-manager (main) "samba not upgraded by Edgy update manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63336
[01:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63337 in gnat-4.1 (universe) "Lirary project files are not supported on i386 platform" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63337
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63338 in tar (main) "tar -k is b0rken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63338
[01:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63339 in xchat-gnome (main) "TrayIcon should be transparent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63339
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63340 in Ubuntu "Missing modules on the alternate install CD (edgy beta1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63340
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63341 in evolution (main) "[edgy]  Evolution remembers only 1 password per server." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63341
[02:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63342 in firefox (main) "Crash when clicking on "Adblock" on lower panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63342
[02:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63344 in update-manager (main) "update-manager cannot start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63344
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63343 in evolution-data-server (main) "unknown crash, crashes constantly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63343
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63346 in compiz (universe) "compiz should not default to using screen corners" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63346
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63347 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "gnome-setting-daemon exited" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63347
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63348 in ekiga (main) "ekiga segfaults on start up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63348
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63349 in Ubuntu "Request for inclusion of new package (murrine)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63349
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63350 in nautilus (main) "Since last updates of Edgy on 1st October, I can't start Nautilus anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63350
[03:02] <BazziR> holy bugs
[03:02] <Hobbsee> BazziR: you can reject 63349 as being the wrong place, and it being past the universe freeze, if you want
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63352 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Creative labs X-Fi sound card unsupported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63352
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63351 in Ubuntu "Error on distro upgrade to Edgy - Could not calculate the upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63351
[03:09] <BazziR> Hobbsee: I wouldn't even know the right place tbh
[03:10] <Hobbsee> BazziR: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates?highlight=%28motu%29
[03:10] <Hobbsee> BazziR: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[03:10] <Hobbsee> it's quite badly organised, i know
[03:13] <BazziR> ok, made the changes to the bugs
[03:13] <BazziR> bug*
[03:13] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:14] <BazziR> I know it will be fun once I start packaging my own software
[03:15] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:16] <BazziR> oh hot, new vlc version
[03:16] <Hobbsee> universe freeze is on.
[03:17] <BazziR> well, new patch level :)
[03:17] <BazziR> version is from sep 18 (svn)
[03:17] <matid> Hobbsee: Can't wait till edgy+1 repos open ;)
[03:17] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:18] <Hobbsee> lets' get edgy out first :p
[03:18] <BazziR> with working java :s
[03:18] <matid> BazziR: What's wrong with java?
[03:19] <BazziR> I have my fair set of issues with java software in edgy
[03:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63353 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade from Dapper to Edgy Eft beta fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63353
[03:21] <matid> Seems we're being flooded with update-manager bugs...
[03:22] <BazziR> is the update-manager even supposed to be able to handle a dapper->edgy upgrade yet?
[03:24] <matid> It'd save us a lot of work if it wasn't ;)
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63354 in sbackup (universe) "Dapper -> Edgy failure: sbackup configuration file has conflicts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63354
[03:31] <Hobbsee> matid: wouldnt surprise me.  we just released the beta :P
[03:35] <BazziR> btw what's the current ubuntu compiz version? some community version before the beryl fork or the official compiz?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> no idea
[03:36] <Hobbsee> beryl is not in ubuntu
[03:36] <BazziR> !info compiz
[03:36] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.2-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 424 kB
[03:36] <BazziR> !info compiz edgy
[03:36] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL composition manager - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:36] <BazziR> hmm
[03:38] <BazziR> I'm tempted to use xgl/aiglx+compiz on my laptop
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63355 in Ubuntu "Installer allows user to cancel while partitions are being resized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63355
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63356 in gdm (main) "Dapper -> Edgy failure: conflict in gdm.conf-custom" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63356
[03:41] <BazziR> #63355 is evil
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63357 in Ubuntu "IPW3945 WLAN on Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi Laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63357
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63358 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63358
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63359 in adept (main) "Problems when installing sun-java5-plugin in Adept in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63359
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63361 in network-manager (main) "nm-applet  <WARNING> DBus.Error.LimitsExceeded" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63361
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63362 in Ubuntu "Viewsonic VA1912w Series Monitor not correctly installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63362
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63363 in human-icon-theme (main) "Add Bookmark icon needs 16x16 size" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63363
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63364 in base-installer (main) "Install program does not recognize CWC-854 (RAlinkRT2500 based) card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63364
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63365 in xserver-xorg-input-keyboard (main) "(Edgy) Right Alt Key generates ISO_Level3_Shift instead of Alt_R on Logitech Keyboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63365
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63366 in openoffice.org (main) "crash beim ffnen einer tabelle" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63366
[04:43] <_ion> Haha, that report is helpful.
[04:44] <matid> _ion: The descripion rocks ;)
[04:45] <matid> _ion: In fack the previous one was more helpful ;)
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63368 in cowbell (universe) "Cowbell's window has a generic icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63368
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63369 in banshee (universe) "Banshee's window has a generic icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63369
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63370 in liferea (universe) "Liferea doesn't initially respect Gnome toolbar button label preference" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63370
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63371 in Ubuntu "Apps doesn't respond or closing..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63371
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63372 in deskbar-applet (main) "Deskbar doesn't support Firefox 2.0 search plugins" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63372
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63373 in xfonts-base (main) "Configure warning while installing - no directory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63373
[05:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63374 in file-roller (main) "Edgy + XGL + Compiz -> file-roller crashes X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63374
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63375 in mono (main) "Banshee crashed importing songs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63375
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63377 in when (universe) "Ignored --calendar option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63377
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63376 in Ubuntu "Edgy Xorg crash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63376
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63378 in xchat-gnome (main) "Buttons on network selection have same accelerator" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63378
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63379 in f-spot (main) "f-spot hangs after deleting (from drive) a few pictures" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63379
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63380 in update-manager (main) "A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63380
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63381 in when (universe) "The package is listed but isn't in the repository" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63381
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63382 in totem (main) "Totem should allow to change hotkeys" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63382
[05:52] <bddebian> Boo
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63383 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Changing the time locks me out of sudo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63383
[06:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63384 in Ubuntu "Same UUID for different partitions..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63384
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63385 in binutils (main) "binutils-multiarch depends on out-of-date version of binutils" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63385
[06:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63386 in Ubuntu "5 in 1 card reader on Acer Aspire 5601AWLMi Laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63386
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63387 in Ubuntu "Thinkpad audio mute not being represented" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63387
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63388 in Ubuntu "Repeating broken sound after Dapper -> Edgy beta update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63388
[06:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63389 in update-manager (main) "Error upgrading to 6.10 from 6.06 i386" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63389
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63390 in Ubuntu "Network down after Dapper -> Edgy beta update when kde session starts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63390
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63391 in xen-3.0 (universe) "Version problem in synaptic for amd64 version of xen-ioemu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63391
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63392 in f-spot (main) "Empty directories in ~/Photos should be deleted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63392
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63393 in f-spot (main) "Photos in ~/Photos should be moved after "Adjust time"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63393
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63394 in Ubuntu "WEP keys can be found." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63394
[06:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63395 in kino (main) "Kino don't work after 6.06 to 6.10 upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63395
[06:50] <matid> Hi superm1
[06:50] <superm1> Hi
[06:57] <superm1> So i was looking to try to help triaging some bugs, could someone point me a direction to start?
[06:58] <welshbyte> superm1: have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs :)
[07:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63396 in Ubuntu "Upgrading to edgy beta leavs imake and makedepend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63396
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63397 in Ubuntu "No layout preview in Keyboard Preferences - edgy 6.10 beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63397
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63398 in Ubuntu "[regression]  live cd doesn't support lvm/md (software raid) devices" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63398
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63399 in ubiquity (main) "Install: keyboard test field UTF8 display" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63399
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63400 in gnome-applets (main) "application trashapplet has finished unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63400
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63401 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "microphone not working on Amilo Si with snd-hda-intel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63401
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63402 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Edgy Beta cannot boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63402
[08:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63403 in Ubuntu "Semi-random ugly font rendering in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63403
[08:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63404 in gnome-panel (main) "Modem Monitor crashes on gnome panel - edgy 610 beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63404
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63405 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office Writer Freezes up..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63405
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63406 in evolution (main) "[Edgy]  When I select an e-mail message, Evolution shows me the end of the message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63406
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63407 in f-spot (main) "f-spot won't start - edgy 6.10 beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63407
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63408 in Ubuntu "Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63408
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63409 in xorg-server (main) "beryl-manager (under Dapper with ati radeon 9600) refuses after some time to obtain/refresh configuration changes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63409
[08:51] <BazziR> beryl-manager?
[08:51] <BazziR> that's inofficial isn't it?
[08:52] <BazziR> !info beryl-manager
[08:52] <ubotu> Package beryl-manager does not exist in any distro I know
[08:52] <BazziR> !info beryl
[08:52] <ubotu> Package beryl does not exist in any distro I know
[08:53] <BazziR> bddebian: ping
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63410 in evolution (main) "Remove support to gnome-keyring" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63410
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63411 in pymsn (universe) "pymsn description" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63411
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63412 in tsclient (main) "Few resolution options" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63412
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63413 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crash CDROM 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63413
[09:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63414 in listen (universe) "while trying to open preferences it crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63414
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63415 in alacarte (main) "Double Gnome control center - edgy 6.10 beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63415
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63416 in beagle (main) "Problem with /etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63416
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63417 in update-manager (main) "Check for plurality of updates remaining doesn't happen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63417
[09:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63418 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "CPU soft lockup during bootup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63418
[09:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63419 in vim (main) "[edgy]  some keys are not well interpreted in insert mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63419
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63420 in gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (universe) "ASF/WMV file stutters while playing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63420
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63421 in amaya (universe) "Amaya crashes on openning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63421
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63422 in Ubuntu "dd segmentation faults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63422
[09:47] <pepsiman> Ubugtu: everybody knows dd segfaults
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63423 in control-center (main) "[Edgy]  keybind for "Log out" does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63423
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63424 in Ubuntu "Failed to format partition as XFS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63424
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63425 in gnome-sudoku (universe) "crash on exit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63425
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63426 in zapping (universe) "Crash trying to run Zapping TV viewer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63426
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63427 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Running bzflag results in xorg lockup/Xid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63427
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63428 in Ubuntu "Not working notebook power button in Edgy Beta" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63428
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63429 in qemu (universe) "[Edgy]  qemu-make-debian-root hasn't worked since Debian Sarge, and not even then" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63429
[10:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63430 in kaffeine (main) "Saving Streams using Kaffeine causes crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63430
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63431 in uim (universe) "uim-common hangs in old prerm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63431
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63432 in totem (main) "Unable to open mms streams" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63432
[10:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63433 in Ubuntu "6.10 beta installer does not see hde, hdf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63433
[11:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63434 in firefox (main) "Opening sites Firefox crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63434
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63435 in acpi (main) "problem with acpi suspend/hibernate (edgy beta1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63435
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63436 in openoffice.org (main) "Changing Page Layouts doesn't refresh preview graphic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63436
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63437 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "junk mail control doesnt work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63437
[11:54] <nictuku> I have this idea of setting up a pt_BR team for QA, to work as an interface to users who can't write reports in english in the LP, and to help foster people using malone aproprietly.
[11:54] <jjesse> nictuku: that sounds like a cool idea
[11:55] <matid> nictuku: Good, I was also thinking of setting a similar group for pl_PL
[11:55] <nictuku> jjesse, thank you
[11:55] <nictuku> matid, we can share experiences then
[11:55] <jjesse> nictuku: np
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63438 in udev (main) "Wrong disc enumeration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63438
[11:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63439 in Ubuntu "Core2Duo powerstepping doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63439
[11:57] <matid> nictuku: We should create a specification for this
[11:58] <nictuku> matid, really?
[11:58] <matid> nictuku: I think that'd be the easier way to discuss such a proposal
[11:58] <nictuku> indeed
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63440 in j2se1.4-amd64 (multiverse) "Firefox crash without any reason while using any java applet." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/63440
[12:00] <matid> I'll discuss the idea on the mailing list and let you know if we need to create a specification for this
[12:01] <matid> For the time of being, I have to get some sleep ;)
[12:01] <matid> See you tomorrow bug squashers