[12:01] <albeck> Testing
[12:01] <finalbeta> mc44 , it's up to you then how you interpret freak "someone who is so ardently devoted to something that it resembles an addiction) "a golf addict"; "a car nut"; "a bodybuilding freak"; "a news junkie"" Doesn't have to be negative ;), but very well, this is not ubuntu-offtopic
[12:02] <DigitalNinja> How can I find out who is using Ubuntu
[12:02] <sidny4> how do I make ubuntu start to text mode, then if I want x I can start it
[12:02] <Beep> digital: it's a good bet the people here are.
[12:02] <Doow> Beep: =)
[12:02] <mc44> sidny4: choose recovery mode
[12:03] <ciphex> pecisk: thanks
[12:03] <mc44> sidny4: on the grub screen
[12:03] <sidny4> ok
[12:03] <DigitalNinja> Beep: I know that much. How do I find out what compaines are using ubuntu
[12:03] <Beep> though I'm a wrench in the bookies calculations.   Alternate locks up.. last thing showing in the boot is adding the mouse.
[12:04] <Armagguedes> can someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?
[12:04] <mc44> Beep: tried removing rthe mouse? :p
[12:04] <bigmoe> i have a pcmcia wlan card but ubuntu doesnt recognize it a a wireless card what can i do to update the drivers
[12:04] <Beep> what mouse?
[12:04] <finalbeta> DigitalNinja, I don't believe that that is being indexed.
[12:04] <mc44> Armagguedes: beagle? or tracker
[12:04] <synjet> armagguedes: beagle?
[12:04] <Beep> there wasnt one installed at the time.  I'd yanked it to this computer I'm typing on now
[12:04] <finalbeta> bigmoe, what card?
[12:04] <edmondsc> join #osu-lug
[12:05] <DigitalNinja> finalbeta: They should be keeping tapbs on this kind of data
[12:05] <mc44> Beep: have you tried attaching one :P
[12:05] <Armagguedes> beagle, and what about the frontend (for KDE?)
[12:05] <bigmoe> finalbeta: smc wireless card 11Mbps
[12:05] <synjet> armagguedes: beagle has a deskbar applet that can be added to the top panel like spotlight in osx
[12:05] <finalbeta> bigmoe, ehm, ok, what card?
[12:05] <Beep> plht..  ok....
[12:05] <Spee_Der> !kasbar
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <Armagguedes> ok tks
[12:06] <bigmoe> finalbeta: what do u mean what card??
[12:06] <Armagguedes> btw, how do i do the initial WINE config?
[12:06] <finalbeta> DigitalNinja, it's free to download... i'll assume they keep a record of what companies have support contracts. I do know google uses ubuntu desktops, or a modded version of them.
[12:07] <finalbeta> bigmoe, yes, what card, what type, must have a proper name, that might tell us what chipset it uses. You could google it up yourself, and then google on how to get a card running with that chipset.
[12:07] <DigitalNinja> finalbeta: I foudn that while searching google :)
[12:07] <zucaritas> i need some help configuring the BMC4318 wireless card on Edgy.. any ideas? ndiswrapper or should I go native?
[12:08] <amicke> anyone that successfully  cracked a wep-key with airsnort?
[12:08] <lufis> Hi. I accidentally deleted a file in my /etc/gconf directory and now gnome-panel keeps crashing. Any ideas?
[12:08] <bruenig> lufis what was the name of the file?
[12:08] <bigmoe> finalbeta: ah ok but i have a cd for installation but it is a win driver
[12:08] <lufis> bruenig: It started with a percent sign and had -de- in it
[12:09] <lufis> bruenig: XML, also
[12:09] <finalbeta> zucaritas> i need some help configuring the BMC4318 wireless card on Edgy.. << BCM? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but the card only runs at 11Mbit for me. The forums have howtos on how to run them with ndiswrapper at full speed.
[12:09] <bruenig> %gconf-tree.xml
[12:09] <bruenig> that one?
[12:09] <lufis> bruenig: Yes, but it was %gconf-tree-de.xml, I think
[12:09] <bruenig> de like netherlands?
[12:10] <lufis> bruenig: I don't know. I'm running the English version...
[12:10] <finalbeta> bigmoe, yes, that doesn't help me. that win driver might be usable with ndiswrapper, but you want to look up the chip it's using first to make sure you can't run it native
[12:10] <synjet> /etc/gconf/%gconf-tree-de.xml is there for english version too
[12:10] <bruenig> lufis, well that is all I have found. I am on edgy so don't know if that makes a difference
[12:10] <finalbeta> I need to go. ciao
[12:10] <Spee_Der> ciao
[12:10] <lufis> bruenig: I'm on edgy also
[12:10] <Lovloss> im confused about filesharing. none of the programs i get are finding servers :(
[12:10] <pedro> hi
[12:11] <Orkie_> hi
[12:11] <bigfuzzyjesus> hi
[12:11] <bruenig> lufis, maybe synjet can send it to you, he appears to have it
[12:11] <lufis> Lovless: Try soulseek plus
[12:11] <lufis> bruenig: Alright, thanks
[12:11] <Lovloss> okay =) thanks
[12:11] <pedro> how can i enable firestarter to work with fire fox ?
[12:11] <Orkie_> anybody who can help me with an in-progress dapper->edgy upgrade that has got stuck on bluez-utils?
[12:11] <bigfuzzyjesus> how come they didnt make edgy a LTS version
[12:11] <synjet> lufis, I do have have the file, but it seems to be empty
[12:11] <Orkie_> it has just got stuck at "starting bluetooth services"
[12:11] <lufis> synjet: Hmm... maybe i should just create a file?
[12:11] <Spee_Der> bigfuzzyjesus: SOmeday perhaps.....
[12:12] <pedro> somebody can help me ?
[12:12] <synjet> lufis, yes as my english file also happens to be empty
[12:12] <bruenig> bigfuzzyjesus, edgy is more of an experimental kind of bleeding edge build, not a super stable Dapper like build
[12:12] <Spee_Der> !ask | pedro
[12:12] <ubotu> pedro: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:12] <lufis> bigfuzzyjesus: Because Dapper was LTS. Edgy is supposed to be "Edgy"
[12:12] <Orkie_> i have no idea what to do from here. can i roll back to dapper?
[12:12] <bigfuzzyjesus> oh is that why edgy was put out much faster than the time between breezy and dapper
[12:12] <bruenig> !downgrade
[12:12] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[12:13] <cfedde> better to backup, reinstall and merge
[12:13] <bruenig> bigfuzzyjesus, it was put out faster because they spent 8 months on dapper as opposed to the normal 6 months, meaning they had to only spend 4 months on edgy to make up the time they lost polishing dapper
[12:13] <synjet> lufis, oops, sorry my en file isnt empty
[12:13] <Orkie_> ummm... yeah, but my system is in the middle of an upgrade and has got stuck...
[12:13] <lufis> synjet: Hmm...
[12:13] <synjet> lufis, do you want me to copy the de contents on pastebin?
[12:13] <Orkie_> i can't believe that the only solution is to reinstall
[12:14] <bigfuzzyjesus> bruenig, oh that makes sense
[12:14] <lufis> synjet: I'm not sure. Will it break anything using someone else's config? Well, who am I kidding, I just borked my panel :P Yes, please
[12:14] <Orkie_> i am not stupid, i am quite capable of using the command line where needed :S
[12:14] <bruenig> lufis, are you sure that is the problem, correlation is not equal to causation as the saying goes
[12:14] <bigfuzzyjesus> Orkie_,  did if give you an error message
[12:15] <Orkie_> bigfuzzyjesus: yeah, i'll paste it to a paste site
[12:15] <tjb891> is there anything you need to do to get a digital camera to work with myspace
[12:15] <tjb891> *ubuntu
[12:15] <tjb891> sorrey
[12:15] <TheDebugger> haha, myspace
[12:15] <tjb891> not thinking ubuntu
[12:15] <lufis> bruenig: I'm pretty sure.  I typed "sudo mv foo ./". The file disappeared and gnome-panel constantly crashes
[12:16] <bigfuzzyjesus> tjb891, not if it is supported, install picasa on your linux box and plug in your cam see what happens
[12:16] <tjb891> ok got yeh, it that in synaptic
[12:16] <cfedde> tjb891: might depend on the camera. but at worst you can always use a card reader
[12:16] <Lovloss> Is there a linux program for reconfigureing one's router, whatever that means?
[12:16] <Orkie_> bigfuzzyjesus: this is the last thing i got: http://rafb.net/paste/results/45Heow79.html
[12:16] <tomkelleher> hello, I'm having issues getting OpenGL to work on my fresh install of Edgy. I found a thread on the Ubuntu site, and followed it precisely. But when I go to activate the driver I receive the error message: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!
[12:16] <bigfuzzyjesus> tjb891, it should be
[12:16] <tjb891> ok, thanks
[12:17] <Lovloss> I dont know how o pick ports and whatever...
[12:17] <cfedde> Lovloss: most routers these days have a web interface.
[12:17] <antoine5335> hello
[12:17] <synjet> lufis, hope this helps: http://pastebin.com/827023
[12:17] <lufis> Thank you immensely.
[12:17] <Lovloss> Okay. So lets say you had a router and didnt have the manual...
[12:17] <antoine5335> i am new
[12:17] <synjet> lufis, np
[12:17] <Lovloss> c.c
[12:17] <synjet> antoine, shoot your q
[12:17] <Orkie_> what a strange idea... an upgrade facility with no way of rolling back :S
[12:17] <tjb891> bigfuzzyjesus:what repo is picasa in, i can't find it
[12:17] <cfedde> Lovloss:  maybe you can describe your situation a bit more.
[12:18] <Lovloss> Well for some reason file-sharing on linux isnt working since i got a new motherboard. my firewall is blocking everything
[12:18] <Phuzion> !freeformats
[12:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <dredhammer> is there a how to on how to install the open source ATI drivers?
[12:18] <Spee_Der> antoine, welcome.
[12:18] <cfedde> Orkie_: welcome to the wonderful world of opensource.  BTW when was the last time you rolled back a windows install?
[12:18] <Orkie_> cfedde: i don't really need welcoming, i've been using linux for about 5 years now ;)
[12:19] <Lovloss> only the basic gnutella server shows stuff
[12:19] <Lovloss> and its not much
[12:19] <Orkie_> and in that time, i've written my own kernel, dpkg replacement, ported an x server, but i've never had a problem like this :D
[12:19] <bigfuzzyjesus> tjb891, try googling it, i know there is a linux port
[12:19] <tjb891> yeah, if its not in synaptic i guess i have to do it the old fashioned way
[12:20] <cfedde> Lovloss: I'm guessing that the firewall is on your cable dsl box?  (aka the router)
[12:20] <synjet> tjb891: dload from google's site, I guess they have a deb
[12:20] <Phuzion> Is there a program similar to Mac OSX's dock for Linux?
[12:20] <Spee_Der> tjb891: Try apt-cache search <target>
[12:20] <Lovloss> I know a lot of things about compuers cfedde.... this router thingy isnt one of them
[12:20] <tjb891> yeah doing that rigth now
[12:20] <Phuzion> !osx
[12:20] <Lovloss> so i dunno :(
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <synjet> !gdesklets>Phuzion
[12:21] <Lovloss> all ik now is that i used to use limewire in winxp, and gnutella isnt connecting to the limewire server, of any other
[12:21] <Phuzion> synjet:  thanks
[12:21] <bigfuzzyjesus> Orkie_, i havent the slightest idea what happened, sorry
[12:21] <cfedde> Lovloss: so the router /firewall is usualy on the internet access box. sometimes called a cable modem.
[12:21] <lufis> synjet: Oh god, what have I done. Still not working
[12:21] <Lovloss> right im using cable
[12:21] <mc44> Orkie_: so what exactly is the problem?
[12:21] <Orkie_> bigfuzzyjesus: ok, thanks anyway
[12:21] <Spee_Der> !gdesklets | Phuzion
[12:21] <ubotu> Phuzion: gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[12:21] <synjet> lufis: sorry mate, I have no idea..
[12:22] <bigfuzzyjesus> !wifi
[12:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:22] <Orkie_> mc44: i got to http://rafb.net/paste/results/45Heow79.html and the update doesn't progress
[12:22] <Orkie_> it just sits there
[12:22] <mc44> Orkie_: what did you use to upgrade?
[12:22] <Lovloss> im on comcast. My router's a linksys if that helps :/
[12:22] <Orkie_> mc44: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"
[12:22] <shape> guys g'night
[12:22] <cfedde> Lovloss: do you know the ipaddress of your ubuntu system?
[12:22] <Spee_Der> night shape
[12:23] <Lovloss> um.
[12:23] <LjL> Orkie_: doesn't that mean you've tried to update to Feisty?
[12:23] <Lovloss> no c.c
[12:23] <Beep> same * different minute.   while I was at the multiple reboots, I did a memtest too.. it goes nice n fast with ddr2 800.  :)    all's good hardware, ubuntu install locks up still.  with various usb/ps2/none  mices it locks up either at adding mouse info, or adding ieeewhatever firewire.
[12:23] <shape> anyone coul d helpme to install frostwire?
[12:23] <mc44> Orkie_: damn that was wher I was going to make this your fault :p. Ok so where do you get that message? when you are booting up?
[12:23] <shape> i have problems installing java lib
[12:23] <Orkie_> no, in the terminal in the upgrade box
[12:23] <Lovloss> Isnt there some program where i can go open these port things?
[12:23] <synjet> lufis: maybe apt-get install gnome-panel* might fix?
[12:23] <shape> synaptic gives tom a 1 type error
[12:23] <Orkie_> it is still in the middle of upgrading, but has just kind of got stuck there
[12:23] <cfedde> Lovloss: system > admin > networking
[12:24] <wraithsoul> hi
[12:24] <Lovloss> aha!
[12:24] <Spee_Der> Lovloss: In a web browser, type the address <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:24] <mc44> Orkie_: well killing it and trying again probably wont do any harm
[12:24] <wraithsoul> I was here last night, and I still need help
[12:24] <fryfrog> Is there any reason an NFS mount setup in /etc/fstab would *not* show in in 'mount' but does show up in /proc/mounts and is definatly mounted?
[12:24] <cfedde> Lovloss: or maybe <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:24] <fryfrog> I'm using 6.10 if it makes any diff
[12:24] <Orkie_> well, i've nothing to lose i guess :)
[12:24] <Spee_Der> Lovloss: It will ask for user name and password....
[12:24] <eetfunk> im trying to forward port 2525 to 25 with iptables but i can't get it to work.  here's what i have so far in iptables.up.rules:  http://pastie.caboo.se/23351
[12:25] <Beep> yea well.. I really wanted to try ubuntu..  I guess slamd64 it is.
[12:25] <Lovloss> hold on, im not getting anything
[12:25] <Lovloss> AH! okay
[12:25] <wraithsoul> How do I make panels go behind applications?
[12:25] <Lovloss> username/PW
[12:25] <Spee_Der> Lovloss: Tab first, then for password, use admin
[12:26] <Spee_Der> No user name;
[12:26] <mc44> Beep: hmm you were trying with edgy right?>
[12:26] <Lovloss> woaaah
[12:26] <Lovloss> whats this do
[12:26] <lufis> synjet: I'll give it a go. One sec
[12:26] <Spee_Der> Lovloss: Now to the advanced tab.
[12:26] <Beep> 6.10 latest.  I never figured out the deal with ubuntu naming. :)
[12:26] <Spee_Der> Lovloss: Then to the forwarding tab
[12:26] <bigfuzzyjesus> does anyone here use wireless?
[12:26] <Phuzion> Alright, so I went to the restricted formats page on the Wiki, entered in all of the "make it work in a hurry" one line thing, and it says it can't find half of the packages on the repositories, and yes, I have turned on universe and multiverse
[12:27] <LjL> !anyone
[12:27] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:27] <Lovloss> hmmm im looking for tabs
[12:27] <synjet> wraithsoul: right-click the top panel and properties: hide
[12:27] <wraithsoul> thanks
[12:27] <mc44> Beep: sorry, edgy was the codename, 6.10 is based on 6 from 2006 and 10 from the month of release
[12:27] <Lovloss> lagging
[12:27] <Spee_Der> np
[12:28] <Lovloss> im under "advanced routing" but i dont see forwarding
[12:28] <Spee_Der> tab = boxes at top of window
[12:28] <Spee_Der> Ok....
[12:28] <Orkie_> nope, i am completely stuffed
[12:28] <Orkie_> it won't relaunch the installer
[12:28] <Spee_Der> Depends on which router you have perhaps, that is the way mine works and it is older.....
[12:28] <wraithsoul> synjet, that just causes the panel to fly off screen.
[12:28] <Orkie_> what is the command line method of doing it (i.e. the 'wrong' one)?
[12:29] <mc44> Orkie_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:29] <Beep> K..  amd64 desktop.. locks up with the orange ubuntu and progress bar going nowhere,  amd64-alternate,text install locks up either at adding ps2mouse, or ieewhatever/firewire.   handy memtest says hardware is grand..   maybe ubuntu cant handle Athlon X2?  I havent found any posts in the forums claiming anyone has a dual core athlon working
[12:29] <Orkie_> ok, thanks
[12:29] <Lovloss> im looking around for a 'forwarding' option
[12:29] <Lovloss> could it be called anything else?
[12:29] <mc44> Beep: have you tried an i386 install?
[12:29] <fryfrog> Beep: I can promise you it isn't due to X2 cpu :)
[12:29] <fryfrog> Beep: and... yeah, that
[12:30] <Beep> nope.. the point of my trying ubuntu is for 64 bit. :)
[12:30] <synjet> wraithsoul: if you want the active window to be over a panel, I guess full-screen is the easiest option, as in a browser: F-11
[12:30] <Lovloss> Is it Upnp forwarding?
[12:30] <Spee_Der> Lovloss: Possibly, like I said mine is older, yours may be newer and called something else.....
[12:30] <Spee_Der> No
[12:30] <wraithsoul> is that really the best that can be done?
[12:30] <fryfrog> Beep: Try the i386 install, see if it boots at least.
[12:30] <wraithsoul> Does Beep not know what architexture beep has?
[12:30] <Lovloss> whats UPnp?
[12:31] <Lovloss> its disabled
[12:31] <Beep> next 2 steps. slamd64, then 32bit ubuntu.  then back to good old slackware.   have a bloody international business of 100+people running on it, I know I can make that work at least.
[12:31] <synjet> wraithsoul: atleast the one that I use/think of..
[12:31] <Spee_Der> !upnp
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <fryfrog> Beep: is the *boot* cd locking up, or is it locking up after install?
[12:31] <orion2012> !upnp
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <wraithsoul> xchat does not do it.
[12:31] <kaot> eetfunk: iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp -i (external interface name i.e. eth0) --dport 2525 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>:25
[12:31] <orion2012> Lovloss: well, its universal plug n play
[12:31] <Lovloss> is it good?
[12:31] <Spee_Der> yes
[12:32] <globe> how can I reload all modules? gnome freezes when i logout/login...dont want to restart
[12:32] <Beep> Beep has an Athlon X2 5000+, 2 gigs of DDR2 800, gigabyte M57SLI mobo, 2 nvidia 7900GS's SLI'd.  yup, he knows
[12:32] <Lovloss> Well anyway there is no forwarding option, so what am i looking for?
[12:32] <Spee_Der> Lovloss: Back to your original question please.....
[12:32] <Spee_Der> That may help us to help you
[12:32] <eetfunk> kaot: i'll try that thanks!
[12:32] <highneko> Any ideas for a caption? http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/numbers6554/highneko_v011.gif
[12:32] <Beep> fry:  the boot CD.. the install is what's locking up
[12:32] <Lovloss> well what next
[12:32] <wraithsoul> basically I have a starcraft screen shot, and am using it as a background. I want the part of the screen shot that says "menu" to open the menu. But I cannot find either a command to do it with gDesklets or a way to make the panel it is on go under the application.
[12:32] <lullabud> globe:  you mean like /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[12:33] <globe> lullabud: um...sort of.  when I do that, I can login then nothing
[12:33] <Orkie_> even LFS isn't this much trouble :D
[12:33] <globe> lullabud: all I get is a cursor....
[12:34] <eetfunk> kaot: it fails with that error:  iptables-restore v1.3.5: Line 86 seems to have a -t table option.
[12:34] <Lovloss> interesting idea wraithsoul
[12:34] <lullabud> globe:  you might try doing `init 3 ; init 5 ;` from a shell.... er... assuming you're using dapper.
[12:34] <lullabud> globe:  not sure how it works in edgy.
[12:34] <synjet> wraithsoul: why does the screenshot have the "menu" part on it? if you want just the screenshot, then press alt-printscreen
[12:34] <mc44> Orkie_: can you just less your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure you're not upgrading to fiesty :)
[12:34] <wraithsoul> :/
[12:34] <wraithsoul> starcraft has a panel for commanding troops and such.
[12:34] <synjet> wraithsoul: that would get the screenshot of the active window
[12:34] <kaot> eetfunk: oh you're using iptables-restore... I just gave you the straight command-line
[12:35] <lullabud> globe:  actually, that might not be right.  check your runlevel by doing `runlevel` at a prompt.
[12:35] <wraithsoul> synjet, have you played the game?
[12:35] <synjet> wraithsoul: nope :) thats where I misunderstood you, my wrong
[12:35] <eetfunk> Kaot: yeah, everything i find is for the command line i think... i dont know jack about iptables :)
[12:35] <tomkelleher> hi, I'm having issues in Edgy. Every time Firefox loads a page with a flash object it crashes.
[12:35] <Orkie_> mc44: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rKsuGM84.html doesn't look like it
[12:35] <wraithsoul> synjet, it is fine
[12:36] <wraithsoul> also, what directory is the dist-logo.png in?
[12:36] <yalu> anyone tried to upgrade from warty to edgy? as far as I can tell, it's *impossible*.
[12:36] <Orkie_> i'm running dpkg --configure -a right now
[12:36] <mc44> Orkie_: nah looks fine, but at least I can blame your broken upgrade on beryl and easyubuntu. hah :)
[12:36] <globe> lullabud: lol...I think I botched something!  now my enter key prints ^M....
[12:36] <Lovloss> I found forwarding! yayq!
[12:36] <kaot> eetfunk: you should be able to just load your tables as normal, minus the port-forward, then run the command I gave you, then iptables-save >iptables.rules
[12:36] <wraithsoul> w00t
[12:36] <lullabud> globe:  oi.  not sure how to go about fixing that...  you might try restarting everything in your current runlevel
[12:36] <hoehaver> does anyone know how to mount a ntfs partition for ubuntu 6.06
[12:37] <lullabud> !ntfs
[12:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[12:37] <hoehaver> i have my hards drive in three partitions...one for windows xp( with ubuntu already sees and i can access) one for ubuntu and another for all my files ( movies music ect ect)
[12:37] <andreina> hi
[12:37] <tomkelleher> could anybody please help me with this issue, I'm not sure what to do.
[12:37] <atzar> hi
[12:37] <lullabud> !ask
[12:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:37] <eegore> How does one check gateway address when running DHCP
[12:38] <hoehaver> but the partiton with the movies and such...i cant access it...it sees it but its not mounted
[12:38] <andreina> quiero compilar en c y no me deja
[12:38] <andreina> como hago?
[12:38] <tomkelleher> Like I said before, every time firefox loads a page with a flash object it crashes.
[12:38] <lullabud> eegore:  `route` will print your routing table.
[12:38] <synjet> andreina: #ubuntu-es
[12:38] <eegore> lullabud: tnx
[12:38] <andreina> what can i do?
[12:38] <bruenig> !es\
[12:38] <bruenig> !es
[12:38] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[12:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:39] <andreina> :S
[12:39] <andreina> hellll
[12:39] <lufis> What happens when a file is mv'd to ./ ?
[12:39] <atzar> when i run linux-libc-dev after having installed linux-libc-dev package, I get this error messag: "bash: linux-libc-dev: command not found". Why ?
[12:39] <andreina> S.O.S.
[12:39] <synjet> andreina: espanol? join: #ubuntu-es
[12:39] <bruenig> atzar, I don't think you run development packages, they are just used in aid of compilations
[12:40] <jatt> atzar: what are you trying to do?
[12:40] <lullabud> lufis:  the file is in whatever directory you're currently in.
[12:40] <Phuzion> Alright, so I went to the restricted formats page on the Wiki, entered in all of the "make it work in a hurry" one line thing, and it says it can't find half of the packages on the repositories, and yes, I have turned on universe and multiverse, anyone know what's up?
[12:40] <jatt> AFAIK linux-libc-dev is no an executable but a package
[12:40] <eetfunk> kaot: thanks!
[12:40] <lufis> lullabud: I ran that command accidentally and now Gnome is messed up.
[12:40] <bruenig> Phuzion, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:40] <sethk> Phuzion, I'm sure you have, but you ran apt-get update after turning on the repositories?
[12:40] <bruenig> !paste
[12:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:40] <lullabud> lufis:  you can move the file back to wherever it was originally.
[12:40] <graulich> I have some wmv files and an avi file I want to play on Xubuntu Edgy. I did the quick stuff from RestrictedFormats and got w32codecs as well. the media players all think the wmv files are encrypted and totem won't play anything but a visualizer on the avi file. what do I do?
[12:41] <lufis> lullabud: It disappeared :(
[12:41] <atzar> bruenig, jatt: I'm trying to make the intel macbook webcam work, by following this doc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBook (it's at the end)
[12:41] <orion2012> graulich: are the wmv's DRMed?
[12:41] <bruenig> graulich, did you get totem-xine?
[12:41] <lullabud> lufis do you know what the filename was?
[12:41] <graulich> orion2012, no
[12:41] <Phuzion> sethk:  Yes, I ran apt-get update
[12:41] <lullabud> lufis:  and do you know where it was originally?
[12:41] <synjet> lufis: check your .Trash, just incase..
[12:41] <bruenig> Phuzion, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:41] <sethk> Phuzion, figured, but it doesn't hurt to confirm it.
[12:41] <Phuzion> I'm working on it
[12:42] <sethk> Phuzion, do what bruenig suggested, then tell us the name of one or two specific ones that you can't find.
[12:42] <lufis> lullabud: Yes, sorry for not being specific. sudo mv /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree-de.xml ./
[12:42] <graulich> bruenig: no, but I have totem-gstreamer et al
[12:42] <Willow_fr> hello every one
[12:42] <atzar> bruenig, jatt: I've seen my mistake...
[12:42] <lullabud> lufis %gconf-tree-de.xml ?
[12:42] <Phuzion> Working on the paste right now, one sec
[12:42] <lufis> lullabud: Yes
[12:42] <lullabud> ...interesting.  i'm not familiar with any % filenames...
[12:42] <bruenig> graulich, totem-xine is needed, I believe, if you want all the files to play, a quick sudo apt-get install totem-xine ought to fix the problem. It did for me when I had that problem.
[12:42] <Phuzion> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32437/
[12:43] <lullabud> lufis:  you might try dpkg-reconfigure gconf
[12:43] <graulich> okay bruenig I'm trying it now
[12:43] <bruenig> Phuzion, there is no multiverse
[12:43] <lufis> lullabud: Thank you so much. I'll give that a go
[12:43] <jatt> graulich: totem-gstreamer is useless. Try totem-xine instead.
[12:43] <k6rfm> lufis: if you did the mv as root, and you're looking for the file as you, perhaps you're not allowed to read/search the directory or file?
[12:43] <Phuzion> bruenig:  I don't have multiverse in there?
[12:44] <jatt> atzar: fine. In the wiki you mentioned I didn't find any reference about executing linux-libc-dev though.
[12:44] <sethk> Phuzion, bruenig I think there's an echo in here.
[12:44] <bruenig> Phuzion, no, change deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe to deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[12:44] <Phuzion> alright
[12:44] <Willow_fr> can someone help me ? i have some probleme with downloading with ktorrent
[12:44] <k6rfm> lufis: now that I think about it, i'm not sure *what* the working directory is under sudo.  just a sec
[12:44] <bruenig> Phuzion, and the deb-src after it
[12:44] <Orkie_> mc44: you can blame the upgrade on them, but you know that isn't the reason ;)
[12:44] <lufis> k6rfm: I don't know. I moved a file into itself, pretty much, and the file went *poof*
[12:44] <bruenig> Phuzion, not that the deb-src matters unless you are getting the source, but whatever, looks more coherent
[12:44] <mc44> ORwell possuiblky not, but a lot of problem have been caused by that. anyway hows it looking now?
[12:45] <Phuzion> bruenig:  I planned to add it in anyways
[12:45] <mc44> Orkie_: ^
[12:45] <Phuzion> I always make things match
[12:45] <sethk> k6rfm, all other things being equal, sudo does not change the current directory
[12:45] <k6rfm> lufis: normally if you try to move the file into itself mv just complains "same file" and does nothing
[12:45] <Orkie_> mc44: i can believe that
[12:45] <lufis> k6rfm: Hm. I don't know. what would cp do? I might have ran that too
[12:45] <Orkie_> i've seen my problem mentioned elsewhere, but no solutions :S
[12:45] <graulich> bruenig, jatt, orion2012: installed totem-xine and now the avi file plays but the wmvs still don't work. any other packages I should make sure I have?
[12:46] <Orkie_> it is still configuring all the packages
[12:46] <lullabud> k6rfm lufis: sudo uses your current environment variables.
[12:46] <atzar> jatt: it works fine now, it's because some commands where written on two lines... it made me confused
[12:46] <eetfunk> kaot: For whhatever reason, the port is not forwarded... any idea?
[12:46] <Phuzion> bruenig:  thanks, it works now
[12:46] <Orkie_> if that fails, i'm going to uninstall bluez-utils using whatever means neccessary and try upgrading again
[12:46] <matroblend> HI all
[12:47] <mc44> Orkie_: sweet
[12:47] <k6rfm> lufis: cp  should just copy it .  I just checked, sudo does inherit the working directory.
[12:47] <kaot> eetfunk: paste your current iptables rules please
[12:47] <Orkie_> i'm confident i could at least boot back up to bash
[12:47] <bruenig> graulich, not certain if it works always on wmv. The guide I used specifically says "All known codecs work except for wmv" so not sure if that is a universal problem or if that guide just happened to omit it
[12:48] <Orkie_> setting up gnome-utils (if that gives any indication of progress, which i doubt it does)
[12:48] <lufis> k6rfm: Alright. I have no idea what I did to mess things up. I accidentally hit enter before i finished typing the command and sudo had already been used so it didn't prompt for a password. The command ran, the file disappeared, and then gnome-panel started crashing repeatedly
[12:48] <deema> anybody here use prism54 islsm??
[12:48] <kaot> window 2
[12:48] <graulich> well bruenig on my other system (which I don't have here and configured too long ago to remember) I can play wmv files just fine... there has to be a way. =
[12:48] <graulich> =\
[12:48] <matroblend> Is there a ISO that is small enough for a floppy?
[12:48] <botxj> does ubuntu read FAT32 partitions?
[12:48] <deema> ya
[12:48] <lufis> botxj: Yes
[12:48] <eetfunk> kaot: http://pastie.caboo.se/23357  i don't even see 2525 in there although i ran the line you sent me
[12:49] <botxj> lufis how?
[12:49] <sethk> matroblend, not an iso, because ISO is a format, but it's possible to create an image that can fit on a floppy
[12:49] <lufis> botxj: Magic :P
[12:49] <Orkie_> matroblend: you have .img files for floppies normally
[12:49] <eetfunk> kaot: huh... its at the top, sorry :)
[12:49] <kaot> \
[12:49] <botxj> how do you mount a fat32 partitions?
[12:49] <Orkie_> you just dd the img over
[12:49] <k6rfm> lullabud: but the current working directory isn't an environment variable... most shells set $PWD to it, but setting $PWD doesn't change it
[12:49] <lufis> botxj: is it a removable drive?
[12:49] <sethk> matroblend, iso here is short for ISO9660, which is an IEEE standard.
[12:49] <ph8> hi guys! I'm trying to setup apache with SSL, and i'm getting this weird error - has anyone got any insight? https://www.netlamers.org
[12:49] <sethk> botxj, in general with -t vfat
[12:50] <botxj> lufis: no the partition is on a harddrive
[12:50] <bruenig> graulich, you got libxine-extracodecs
[12:50] <Orkie_> mc44: would i be right in assuming that it sets the non-essential things up after the important stuff?
[12:50] <graulich> bruenig: yup, just checked that
[12:50] <mc44> Orkie_: theoretically I think so
[12:50] <botxj> sethk: mount -t vfat ?
[12:50] <sethk> botxj, mount is somewhat intelligent and you can usually say   -t msdos   and it will figure out the FAT varient.
[12:50] <sethk> botxj, yes, as in   mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/something
[12:50] <Orkie_> because i'm on apache now, which is very unessential
[12:50] <amicke> where can i find ubuntu themes?
[12:50] <clemyeats> gnome-loo.org amicke
[12:50] <icheyne> In www.ubuntuguide.org they mention two ways to get java - "How to install J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE)" and "How to install JRE v5.0 Update 9". What is the difference?
[12:50] <jrib> !themes | amicke
[12:50] <ubotu> amicke: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:50] <botxj> ok, i'll try that sethk and get back to you
[12:51] <bruenig> graulich, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs I used that and everything worked, maybe see if you missed anything. (I may not have used all types of media but have used many and all worked flawlessly)
[12:51] <clemyeats> gnome-look.org sorry..
[12:51] <kaot> eetfunk: erm.  that's wayyyy to many lines.  edit that file to remove all the prerouting rules except the middle one, and then iptables-restore your ruleset
[12:51] <graulich> okay bruenig thanks I'll try that
[12:51] <matroblend> sethk: How do I find a image that will fit on a floppy
[12:51] <jmichaelx> has anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in k/ubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.
[12:51] <amicke> thanks jrib
[12:51] <sethk> botxj, of course, hda1 is just an example and /mnt/something is an arbitrary mount point.
[12:52] <botxj> yes i know
[12:52] <sethk> matroblend, I don't know if they are available for ubuntu.  They are available for slackware, which tells us that it is possible to do.
[12:52] <sethk> matroblend, what are you trying to do?  there may be another way to get it done.
[12:52] <lufis>  k6rfm: When i ran dpkg-reconfigure gconf, it said gconf isn't a package
[12:52] <lullabud> k6rfm:  that's not true.  do `PWD=asdf ; echo $PWD`
[12:53] <matroblend> sethk: really?
[12:53] <bruenig> !gconf2
[12:53] <ubotu> gconf2: GNOME configuration database system (support tools). In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 276 kB
[12:53] <Orkie_> mc44: dpkg --configure has finished and when i do dist-upgrade it gets stuck in the same place, but i can see that only a few upgrades are left (and none of them are to do with beryl by the way ;))
[12:53] <bruenig> !gconf-editor
[12:53] <ubotu> gconf-editor: An editor for the GConf configuration system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 131 kB, installed size 1684 kB
[12:53] <bruenig> there is no gconf
[12:53] <wraithsoul> :(
[12:53] <sethk> matroblend, possibly.  what are you trying to do, exactly?
[12:53] <lullabud> bruenig:  what is this, the matrix?
[12:53] <k6rfm> lullabud, ah but echo $PWD prints the value of the environment variable, not the current directory. try the command "pwd" instead of the echo!
[12:53] <mc44> Orkie_: kill that bluetooth sucker
[12:53] <botxj> lullabud, lol?
[12:54] <eetfunk> kaot: ok thats what i have now (but still doesnt work):  http://pastie.caboo.se/23358
[12:54] <bruenig> lullabud, just giving him some options that could be what he was looking for
[12:54] <Orkie_> mc44: if i kill it, dpkg exits
[12:54] <k6rfm> lullabud, normally you never see a difference because the shell "cd" command both changes the directory and sets PWD to track.
[12:54] <lullabud> k6rfm:  interesting...
[12:54] <graulich> bruenig: only one package suggested there was missing but I did what they said anyhow and no change
[12:54] <matroblend> sethk, I have a old laptop I want linux on it but it does not have a cd drive
[12:54] <Orkie_> i may need to edit my init file to temporarily not stop anything
[12:54] <mc44> Orkie_: sorry i meant apt-get remove :p
[12:54] <sethk> matroblend, so you need to install, once you've installed, then you no longer will care.
[12:54] <el_jay> Help me please.. my ubuntu crashed... when i load it only starts in terminal mode saying that it cant load x server..
[12:54] <bruenig> graulich, odd, you are certain you have and are using totem-xine
[12:55] <el_jay> can sombody help me fix it
[12:55] <savvas> is there a k7 kernel for edgy?
[12:55] <Orkie_> mc44: gets stuck on the ending the bluetooth service again :)
[12:55] <sethk> el_jay, run    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:55] <graulich> bruenig: wouldn't that just be using totem in general? or is it separate? I just use what the system calls "Movie Player" and the title of the windows is Totem Movie Player...
[12:55] <matroblend> sethk, true. I just want to use it as a linux laptop
[12:55] <jatt> el_jay: maybe can you check if you have a .xsession-errors file in your $HOME directory?
[12:56] <sethk> matroblend, I'd probably use a different distro for that case.
[12:56] <bruenig> graulich, yes, but there is totem-gstreamer and totem-xine. When you installed totem-xine, it should have removed totem-gstreamer. Did it do that?
[12:56] <graulich> yes it did bruenig
[12:56] <bruenig> graulich, beyond me then. Maybe the wmv is corrupt
[12:56] <mc44> Orkie_: even after removing bluetooth packages?
[12:56] <savvas> is there a k7 kernel for edgy eft?
[12:56] <Orkie_> it gets stuck *on* removing the bluetooth packages
[12:56] <graulich> bruenig: thing is there are a few different ones and not all from the same place... and none work.
[12:56] <matroblend> sethk, Ok which and where if you don't mind
[12:57] <Orkie_> there, sorted :) i edited my init file so it didn't try to stop anything.
[12:57] <bruenig> graulich, maybe you could link me to the wmv's and I can see if they work for me?
[12:57] <Orkie_> when i reboot, it will kill them anyway
[12:57] <mc44> Orkie_: ah cunning like a fox
[12:57] <sethk> matroblend, Debian or Slackware.
[12:57] <Orkie_> heh :)
[12:57] <sethk> matroblend, debian is closer to ubuntu in administration.  slackware is a bit easier to install.
[12:57] <graulich> no bruenig, I can't, they're not on a server, they're from p2p
[12:58] <kaot> eetfunk: looks like you've got a DROP rule for all traffic destined for <IP_ADDRESS>/8....
[12:58] <matroblend> sethk, easy is best in this matter I think
[12:58] <kaot> eetfunk: but aprior rule to accept all on loopback... guh.  what generated these rules?
[12:58] <bruenig> graulich, ah. I have gotten some from p2p before that when I run give me some green screen and doesn't work but that was on dapper. Yet to have that happen on my newest install
[12:58] <eetfunk> Kaot: a wizard i found online...
[12:59] <sethk> matroblend, slackware doesn't have a package manager (well, doesn't have an acceptable one, IMO) so in the long run Debian is probably easier.  But it's arguable
[12:59] <Zambezi> Is it possible to burn mds-mdf-files in Ubuntu? K3B and Gnomebaker doesn't seem to recognize  it.
[12:59] <mdious> I actually loved the package management options on slackware...I like how you had so many different choices
[12:59] <jmichaelx> could anyone who is able to view the news clips from Yahoo! in edgy with FF2.0 please tell me how you got it to work? (if anyone has it working at all)
[12:59] <Orkie_> ok, i'm going to reboot. wish me luck :D
[12:59] <bruenig> jmichaelx, link?
[01:00] <jmichaelx> www.yahoo.com
[01:00] <Spee_Der> gl ork
[01:00] <kaot> eetfunk: experimental telnetting to your <IP_ADDRESS> suggests that traffic is in fact getting DROP'd for some reason, I suspect the LINWIZ-INPUT ruleset...
[01:00] <sethk> mdious, If they all worked, I might agree.  Although I have to admit I've not tried them all.
[01:00] <mc44> Orkie_: please file a bug with the contents of /var/log/dist-upgrade wen youve finished
[01:00] <el_jay> ok i tryed dpkg.reconfigure x.server.xorg and it toldme that  canot se l:all to default loal: dosnt exist file a directory /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is borken or not fully installed
[01:00] <matroblend> sethk, OK so Debian it is now what?
[01:00] <jmichaelx> bruenig: just click video, and select o ne
[01:00] <kaot> eetfunk: you might try something like iptables -I INPUT -d <IP_ADDRESS> -p tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT
[01:00] <sethk> matroblend, go to their site, read their install docs for a network install
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> How to install Ubuntu with an old world Mac processor, but if you don't have a Mac OS for the bootloader?
[01:00] <mc44> Orkie_: and good luck
[01:00] <Orkie_> mc44: ok
[01:00] <Orkie_> thanks :)
[01:00] <mdious> sethk>I haven't tried slapt-get...but i hear it has a bad habbit of screwing up your system...not that I know from experience though
[01:01] <bruenig> jmichaelx, hangs at initializing
[01:01] <lullabud> tonyyarusso:  can't you hold option on boot to select the boot device?
[01:01] <sethk> mdious, mixing a distro with a sort of generic package manager doesn't usually work terribly well.
[01:01] <matroblend> sethk, network install?
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> lullabud: But what will load the kernel, etc?
[01:01] <jmichaelx> bruenig: yes.... and it seems to do that with a lot of other embedded video. this all worked fine in dapper
[01:01] <sethk> matroblend, right, it installs almost everything from the network and therefore doesn't need a CD.
[01:01] <lullabud> tonyyarusso:  there's something called yaboot that i've seen mac folks talk about.  i've never done it personally.
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> lullabud: All right, might be a start
[01:02] <matroblend> sethk, Ahh ok thankyou bye
[01:02] <jmichaelx> bruenig: i have tried everything i can think of in edgy. i do have one box with mepis on it, and FF2.0.... and these videos work fine on it
[01:02] <bruenig> jmichaelx, not sure that it worked in dapper.  But I don't view them enough to really have noticed too much difference
[01:02] <graulich> wait bruenig I may have missed something, I didn't have some of the extra repos enabled when I did the ubuntuguide thing
[01:02] <easytiger> best bond ever!
[01:02] <jmichaelx> bruenig: no, they worked/work fine in dapper
[01:03] <bruenig> graulich, it would have returned an error if you didn't? Did it not return an error?
[01:03] <jmichaelx> i still have dapper on my laptop, and all of these videoa work perfectly on it
[01:03] <graulich> bruenig: not that I noticed but I'll try again now with the extra repos anyhow
[01:03] <jmichaelx> videos*
[01:04] <mdious> has anyone brought openbsd 4.0 yet?
[01:04] <JasonMog> how do i list users in bash?
[01:05] <TheDebugger> who ?
[01:05] <Orkie_> mc44: it worked :)
[01:05] <sethk> JasonMog, you mean users defined on the system?  users connected?     who     will show you currently connected users
[01:05] <Orkie_> there is a minor problem though
[01:05] <mc44> Orkie_: score :)
[01:06] <Orkie_> the bar at the bottom on the screen on gnome hasn't appeared
[01:06] <Orkie_> any idea how to get it back?
[01:06] <JasonMog> the first SeanTater
[01:06] <JasonMog> er
[01:06] <JasonMog> sethk
[01:06] <sethk> JasonMog, what?
[01:06] <mc44> Orkie_: right click on another panel and click new panel and drag it around
[01:07] <graulich> well bruenig, it found some updates to xorg so I upgraded and restarted x but nothing has changed... blah... is there any point going and removing all the packages that should have fixed this and then starting afresh?
[01:07] <mc44> Orkie_: or killall gnome-panel may work
[01:07] <eetfunk> kaot: I got it.  I forward 2525 to  externalip:25 instead.  is there a reason why i would NOT want to do that?
[01:07] <Orkie_> mc44: thanks, killall did it
[01:07] <bruenig> graulich, don't know. If you have time and want to go ahead. Won't hurt anything
[01:07] <Orkie_> mc44: thanks for your help. what was that log file again?
[01:08] <mc44> Orkie_: /var/log/dist-upgrade, file it against upgrade-manager. thatks :)
[01:08] <tjb891> i just installed linux picasa and now its adding ALL the images on my computer, there are thousands that come with linux, how do i stop it from adding more and remove everthing except for the pictures in my home folder?
[01:08] <kaot> eetfunk: eetfunk not really.  I imagine the idea here is to get around a port 25 block by your isp or similar.  Either way should work.
[01:08] <eetfunk> kaot: thanks! it sure did the trick :)
[01:08] <Orkie_> mc44: ok, i'll make a note. it'll have to wait until tomorrow now, i was hoping for a early night and now it's 12:10AM :D
[01:08] <kaot> eetfunk: I just noticed it working, I tried to drop you a line but your anti-spam blacklist doenst' like my IP  :\
[01:09] <mc44> Orkie_: no worriesm gnight
[01:09] <Orkie_> bye all!
[01:09] <eetfunk> kaot: that's how you know i'm doing it right :D
[01:09] <kaot> eetfunk: lol... I'm bummed by that sort of thing, I used to run my own mailserver, then of course spammers wrecked it for everybody.  Oh well.
[01:09] <Homelss> guys, i want to install ubuntu, but i want to ask, my windows partition is NTFS so does grub recognize it, and i will not have a problem in booting?
[01:10] <mdious> you shouldn't have a problem
[01:10] <tjb891> ok
[01:10] <mdious> shouldn't being the key word...
[01:10] <sethk> Homelss, it will find it.   BUT ... ALWAYS  back up.
[01:10] <sethk> Homelss, always, always, always back up.  if something bad happens and you didn't back up, you have no one but yourself to blame.
[01:11] <ph8> hi guys! I'm trying to setup apache with SSL, and i'm getting this weird error - has anyone got any insight? https://www.netlamers.org
[01:12] <Homelss> sethk, thank you i tried to install ubuntu before, and i had aproblems in booting and MBR but every thing solved thanks god, but now my windows partition is NTFS so i think i have to ask before installing
[01:13] <sethk> Homelss, as several people said, you should not have a problem.  I've done what you are doing many times, without problems.  Occasionally, though, things happen.  The power goes off in the middle of the install, or other similarly unlikely but not impossible situations
[01:13] <sethk> ph8, that sight doesn't come up.
[01:13] <mdious> ph8>what is the error
[01:13] <sethk> ph8, of course, if you are having ssl problems, giving us an https:// url on the machine with problems isn't going to help very much.
[01:14] <ph8> sethk: that's the only error i see
[01:14] <Homelss> sethk, so i can install ubuntu and grub will not find any problem in booting windows NTFS partition, now i can install in a brave heart
[01:15] <ph8> there's nothing in the error log
[01:15] <sethk> ph8, I see nothing at the URL you posted, is my point.
[01:15] <sethk> Homelss, correct.
[01:15] <ph8> when i view that netlamers link, i get a 'server has sent an incorrect or unexpected message'
[01:15] <iam8up> ubotu compiz compatibility
[01:15] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL composition manager - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 64 kB
[01:16] <ph8> error code -12263
[01:16] <ph8> or similar
[01:16] <jrib> ph8: I get the same thing, no clue what that is
[01:16] <Homelss> thanks sethk
[01:16] <ph8> no :s :/
[01:16] <ph8> i set it up using the howto on the forums
[01:16] <ph8> any ideas where to start debugging? if the error logs empty?
[01:16] <fredJones840> i get an interrupted connection msg
[01:17] <g333k_work> Hi, a program to backup a disk partition? I have tried ghost 4 linux, but it dissapoint me...
[01:17] <attah> I'm experiencing a very annoying problem; gksu doesn't work
[01:17] <iam8up> isn't there a ubuntu + xgl ahrdware compatibility list?
[01:17] <mdious> ph8>how did you create the certificate?
[01:17] <ph8> apache2-ssl-certificate
[01:18] <ph8> or a similar command
[01:18] <mdious> ph8>this might help...http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=ssl+error+12263&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[01:18] <ph8> lol, don't know why i haven't done that myself
[01:18] <ph8> cheers
[01:19] <jml> hello. I'm setting up edgy on my powerbook. I've followed some instructions in the forum and got my wireless card noticed by the system.
[01:19] <attah> anyone?
[01:19] <jml> however, it will not seem to actually connect to my AP
[01:20] <mdious> ph8>sorry if i sounded rude or thought you were stupid and haven't done it...not sure if it will help.  The first link just mentioned something about changing browsers lol
[01:21] <jml> a _lot_ of people seem to have this issue.
[01:21] <jml> but I can't find any concrete solution on the forums
[01:22] <JoshJ> /home/lappy/gtk-gnutella-downloads/complete/Ubuntu-6 10-desktop-i386 iso.zip: Trojan.VB-105   <-- i love how clamscan thinks the ubuntu .iso is a trojan
[01:22] <sethk> jml, first thing to look at is encrpytion and keys.
[01:22] <FatherTyme> How can I save my iptables config in Ubuntu?
[01:22] <mdious> jml>stupid suggestion but I always found it helps troubleshooting if you turn off all security on wap and just try connecting with everything as basic as possible....
[01:22] <jml> sethk: I've disabled all my router security
[01:22] <jml> (wireless, that is)
[01:22] <attah> any ideas on that gksu doesn't work?
[01:22] <amicke> damn ubuntu! I can't find any nice theme
[01:22] <mdious> FatherTyme>you can put it in a script that runs at startup or there is a command....i can't remember but it isn't perfect, i'll try to find it
[01:22] <sethk> jml, ok.  is the workstation set up to use dhcp?
[01:23] <jml> sethk: yep.
[01:23] <attah> amicke, think i've got one..
[01:23] <sethk> jml, sounds like you already checked the easy stuff
[01:23] <jml> sethk: :)
[01:23] <mdious> check out iptables-save and iptables-restore
[01:23] <amicke> attah: would you like to take a printscreen and show me?
[01:23] <ph8> hmm
[01:23] <ph8> can't find any decent solutions
[01:23] <mdious> FatherTyme>I heard there is some problems using those commands though...check your rules all load up properly if you are going to use it...
[01:24] <mdious> ph8>where is the guide you followed to set it up?
[01:24] <jml> sethk: I've also tried using wifi-radar (again, it gets a list of networks but can't connect, just like network-manager)
[01:24] <attah> amicke, getting on it.. have got a laggy computer..
[01:25] <amicke> attah:  ok ok, thanks
[01:25] <amicke> I have found one a like... but it's only a printscreen...  http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot07np2.png
[01:26] <jml> at the moment, I'm reading through a 52 page long thread :\
[01:26] <attah> btw it isn't more than just the window edges this far..
[01:26] <ph8> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/server/apache2/SSL
[01:26] <amicke> attah: i just want something simple and nice... something like the link i posted above
[01:26] <mdious> stupid question...does PPPoA support any authentication...or is it just lacking the per user authentication that PPPoE has?
[01:27] <mdious> jml>I love those long threads, I usually spend hours going through it...get to the bottom and find a thread closed :(
[01:27] <mdious> *per session authentication
[01:27] <jml> mdious: you aren't making me more hopeful
[01:27] <FatherTyme> rough.
[01:28] <mdious> jml>You'll get there, I was just...ah i don't know
[01:28] <mdious> strange there is nothing in apache logs or anything....
[01:29] <MikeDK> Hi all
[01:29] <mdious> *ignore stupid question about pppoa i am a moron*
[01:30] <amicke> attah: how is it going?
[01:30] <dominic_> good evening. i am a newby to linux and i just finished installing 6.06 LTS. however, i have a problem when i shutdown and reboot. i get stuck at mount root filesystem. any ideas on how i can solve this?
[01:30] <amicke> does anyone know where i can find this theme http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot07np2.png
[01:30] <attah> amicke, chatzilla is leaking memory :s
[01:31] <amicke> attah:  =/ use gaim.. works fine for me
[01:31] <mdious> jml>is there anything in the apache error logs?
[01:31] <dominic_> i have tried looking though the support forums without any luck.
[01:31] <jml> mdious: _apache_ error logs?
[01:32] <jml> mdious: why would anything appear there?
[01:32] <mdious> because your stuff isn't working
[01:32] <mdious> and you said you were using apache server
[01:32] <attah> amicke, tried just 10 mins ago ^ must have been my screwup then
[01:32] <jml> mdious: no, you're thinking of someone else. I'm the no-wireless-on-my-powerbook guy
[01:32] <jml> :)
[01:33] <mdious> oh sorry, i meant ph8...hehe
[01:33] <mdious> my apologies
[01:33] <jml> no worries
[01:33] <mdious> I hope you work out your powerbook...macs hey :)
[01:33] <amicke> attah: ok, just see if you get it working .:)
[01:34] <botxj> hey what's the comand to create directories?
[01:34] <ph8> mdious: nothing in the error logs apart from this :
[01:35] <ph8> [Sat Nov 18 00:33:11 2006]  [error]  [client <IP_ADDRESS>]  Invalid method in request \x16\x03\x01
[01:35] <jatt> botxj: mkdir
[01:35] <botxj> ty
[01:36] <amicke> Still no one that can help me finding this theme?
[01:36] <Badman> bonne nuit
[01:36] <Badman> ++
[01:36] <dominic_> can anyone help me?
[01:37] <mdious> ph8>i saw that before, i'll help you search if you want, just getting something out for lunch then be right back
[01:37] <ph8> cheers
[01:37] <mdious> ph8>i think it is promising that someone else has had the same error though...will make it easier
[01:37] <pcgigabyte> Hello all. Could someone help me. I installed Parallels Workstation, I got a serial with me email. I have version 2.2 I got the serial sent to me email. I put it in and it says wrong version. So any suggestions?
[01:38] <clop> if i install the nfs user server, will it be able to load on machine startup, or do i need the kernel one for that?  (I have root so I can probably use either, not sure which to use though)
[01:39] <nboir> amicke, attah here, on a faster piece-a-crap
[01:39] <pcgigabyte> Hey does anyone know of any way of installing vmware on ubuntu via apt-get
[01:40] <Healot> !find vmware
[01:40] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-vmware, vmware-player, vmware-player-kernel-modules, vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-23, vmware-player-kernel-source (and 1 others)
[01:40] <Healot> there, most of vmware packages are in the multiverse section
[01:40] <lsdmt> does anybody know why i get this error when i try and install wine "Unknown error (127).
[01:40] <lsdmt> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded."
[01:41] <foormea> hoy. do you know if it's possible to install ubuntu from a usb thumbdrive? i tried to rawrite the iso image onto my thumbdrive but it wouldn't boot..
[01:41] <nboir> amicke, sry
[01:41] <mdious> check dmesg perhaps...see if a driver is trying to be loaded but causing errors
[01:41] <amicke> nboir: changed name?
[01:41] <lsdmt> mdious, how would i know if that is happening from dmesg?
[01:41] <lsdmt> sorry newb
[01:42] <nboir> amicke more or less..
[01:42] <nboir> my first comp. died :s
[01:42] <amicke> nboir: hehe ok, so does it work better?
[01:42] <amicke> ouch
[01:42] <nboir> it has it ups and big downs
[01:43] <mdious> lsdmt>oh wait sorry...i am the newb.  I found dmesg handy for getting my wireless going because it was trying to load a driver that wasn't co-operating....
[01:43] <mdious> lsdmt>wine forums might help...
[01:43] <amicke> nboir: hehe
[01:43] <amicke> nboir: nix* systems should be stable :)
[01:43] <lsdmt> mdious, thanks man, will check them out
[01:44] <nboir> amicke the computer is the problem..
[01:44] <Lastent> ii just installed windows(had to) and i lost the grub, i tried all i found on internet and i couldnt get it works again, i have two hd, on for linux, can anybody help me
[01:44] <nboir> amicke; http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/1270
[01:44] <mdious> ph8>is all the ssl stuff in httpd.conf correct?
[01:44] <dr34mc0d3r> quit
[01:44] <dr34mc0d3r> exit
[01:44] <mdious> lsdmt>best of luck to you
[01:45] <amicke> nboir:  how do i install it?
[01:45] <nboir> amicke download and "drag" into the theme-manager
[01:45] <botxj> what's the command to grant write access to a folder?
[01:46] <amicke> ok, do i have to keep the file or can i delet it after?
[01:46] <dominic_> the forums have not been any help. is this a usb issue? i have a wireless usb keyboard and mouse.
[01:46] <Pelo> botxj, chmod 775 i think
[01:46] <botxj> thx
[01:46] <ex-parrot> Edgy is recognising my wlan0 interface as wired, not wireless, how can I convince it that it's a wireless interface?
[01:46] <attah> just delete it once its in
[01:46] <amicke> attah:  greate
[01:47] <mdious> ph8>all the ssl stuff+certs are installed properly and all that right?  did you compile apache yourself?  I can't stand using apache when it comes from a distrubition package...they screw it up so badly...makes it impossible to find help especially on the apache website
[01:47] <attah> tw amicke; swe?
[01:47] <ademan_> ex-parrot: maybe it is wired? my wlan0 is wired and my wlan1 is wireless
[01:47] <ademan_> er rather eth0 and eth1
[01:47] <amicke> attah: yes i'm swedish.. you too?
[01:47] <ex-parrot> ademan_, both my ethernet interfaces are showing as wired and neither have wireless extensions
[01:48] <attah> amicke, yep..
[01:48] <ex-parrot> despite me having a wireless card and wired ethernet
[01:48] <amicke> attah:  nice, :)
[01:48] <ademan_> ex-parrot: oh, yeah thats not right lol
[01:48] <ex-parrot> it's been working fine since warty
[01:48] <attah> amicke, is there a ban on foregnish?
[01:48] <ademan_> ex-parrot: hrm, that sucks, i honestly don't know what to tell you, i dunno if there's a way to force it
[01:48] <Eeyore-Jr> does ubuntu have a remote desktop invatation ?
[01:48] <amicke> attah: no idea but maybe we should talk private for not risking
[01:49] <mdious> ph8>i think i found something are you still around?
[01:49] <ex-parrot> ademan_, me either. it seems like a common complaint but I can only find references to people using ndiswrapper
[01:49] <attah> amicke sure
[01:49] <Pelo> Eeyore-Jr,  yes, check in the system menu
[01:49] <ademan_> ex-parrot: well ndiswrapper is installed by default in edgy afaik
[01:49] <Pelo> Eeyore-Jr,  forget what I just said,  I missread you,  I don'T know
[01:50] <ex-parrot> right, but I haven't used it in the past, so unles it's loading and forcing out the proper driver (very unlikely) it shouldn't be involved
[01:50] <ademan_> ex-parrot: but it is a difference between edgy and dapper
[01:50] <fredJones840> beautiful .. the smart boot manager disk worked
[01:51] <ademan_> and things that have changed between when it worked and when it didnt are a good place to start when something breaks :-)
[01:51] <ex-parrot> yeah... I think I've found someone else with the same problem ademan_ .... looks like it's specific to the prism chipset
[01:51] <ademan_> ouch
[01:51] <fredJones840> pain the ass to find a disk imaging prog that worked
[01:51] <ademan_> but report time i guess
[01:51] <mdious> could someone please pass this link on too ph8:  http://forum.ensim.com/showthread.php?t=10092
[01:51] <ademan_> i'm pissed, i use eclipse, and they have 3.2 in the repositories, and the cdt is 3.0.1 (they aren't compatible) all they gotta do is add 3.1 to the repositories... but no....
[01:52] <lifepositive> how can I check what services are loading as my system boots?
[01:52] <mdious> Perhaps he has not set up apache to listen on port 443 or whatever he is using for ssl and that is why it is not working, thanks...
[01:52] <prestosd> how do I make a backup of xorg.conf before I make major changes?
[01:52] <fredJones840> woohoo! ubuntu installation in progress
[01:52] <tjb891> ok, when i look at a picture with picasa it is very clear, but when i do it with gimp it is blurry, does picasa automatically enhance things or do i ahve to change ubuntua video setting?
[01:53] <tjb891> sorreu
[01:53] <zircx> quick question, how do i restart the inetd daemon in ubuntu? I'm use to bsd init not system v init and not sure where to look lol
[01:53] <tjb891> i was asking does picasa do auto enhancement or change any video settings in ubuntu?
[01:53] <ademan_> !libdvdcss2
[01:53] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:54] <Healot> prestosd: the dpkg config will back up for you, just find the filename xorg.conf.<some date here>
[01:54] <prestosd> i see
[01:54] <zircx> well i know where to look, but just which one specifically I need to run restart with
[01:54] <amicke> attah: can't you see what i'm writing
[01:54] <amicke> ?
[01:54] <zircx> I just finished changing my hosts file
[01:54] <lifepositive> what does typing top -u root do?
[01:54] <joeljkp> i'm looking for something that will let me generate and maintain a podcast from mp3 files... any ideas?
[01:54] <Healot> you can always backup manually, prestosd, a simple file copy...
[01:54] <attah> amicke, nope not at all :s
[01:54] <prestosd> Healot, will it auto backup when I change it then?
[01:55] <Healot> yes/// prestosd
[01:55] <prestosd> and how do I restore once it crashes?
[01:55] <amicke> attah: damn this!
[01:55] <attah> ^^
[01:55] <amicke> attah: was typing you about 20 lines :P
[01:55] <prestosd> !language | amicke
[01:55] <ubotu> amicke: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:55] <amicke> ubotu: ?
[01:55] <mdious> top -u username will only show the processes being run by that user...or something like that
[01:55] <prestosd> its a bot
[01:55] <Healot> prestosd: just rename the file into xorg.conf back, prestosd?
[01:55] <prestosd> how?
[01:55] <attah> amicke, annoying
[01:55] <prestosd> what command
[01:55] <lifepositive> anyone know how I can check to see what services and programs are running on Dapper?
[01:55] <amicke> attah: yes very..
[01:56] <Healot> use "mv" and some logic... > prestosd
[01:56] <prestosd> !being smart
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about being smart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <amicke> attah:  i can see what you are sending me...
[01:56] <prestosd> lol, im not good with linux logic
[01:56] <prestosd> like my bot command?
[01:56] <prestosd> try it
[01:56] <prestosd> !Linux
[01:56] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[01:56] <amicke> attah: yes...
[01:56] <prestosd> !what Linux is
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what Linux is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <amicke> what is splash screen?
[01:57] <prestosd> LOL
[01:57] <prestosd> !having brains
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about having brains - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <zircx> erm
[01:57] <Pelo> prestosd,  are you having fun ?
[01:57] <prestosd> Pelo, Yes!
[01:57] <prestosd> LOL
[01:58] <ademan_> !bot abuse
[01:58] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[01:58] <Pelo> amicke,  splash screen is the screen image you see while ubuntu is booting or quitting
[01:58] <attah> amicke, depending on.. loading scrn of entire os or just desktop..
[01:58] <prestosd> !what bot abuse is
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what bot abuse is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <amicke> ah ok
[01:58] <amicke> so anyone got kismet or airsnort working?
[01:59] <zircx> what is the command that restarts the inetd daemon, or xinetd daemon?
[01:59] <ademan_> zircx: /etc/init.d/inetd restart ?
[01:59] <g333k_work> Hi, how to avoid to check the filesystem every boot?
[02:00] <ademan_> most daemons are /etc/init.d/daemon-name command
[02:00] <g333k_work> boot*
[02:00] <ademan_> commands usually start stop restart
[02:00] <zircx> yeah nah they're different in ubuntu
[02:00] <zircx> lol
[02:00] <mdious> I'm off, seeya everyone, thanks for the company, if someone could mention http://forum.ensim.com/showthread.php?t=10092 to ph8 when they are back around I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks again
[02:00] <zircx> it's like their own names to the daemons being run
[02:01] <amicke> attah: have you used ubuntu for a long time?
[02:01] <ademan_> i've always started and stopped apache via what i just showed you
[02:01] <attah> amicke  a year maybe
[02:02] <air0day> is there an rss reader for linux that lets me subscribe to an rss feed of downloadable files and match on certain patterns, then download those files to a specific location? my bittorrent client doesnt have rss, but it can pick up files from a certain directory
[02:02] <ademan_> zircx: yeah but i see there's no inetd in /etc/init.d ...
[02:02] <_Raptor_> is it just me, or is winetools nowhere to find in the repositories? Not in universe, and I don't even have any luck when adding wine.sourceforge.org/apt/ binary/. Anyone got an idea?
[02:02] <amicke> attah:  ah ok, so for awhile.. are you satisfied with it?
[02:02] <ademan_> _Raptor_: winetools are evil
[02:02] <ademan_> what are you trying to do with them?]
[02:02] <g333k_work> !madwifi
[02:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:03] <zircx> maybe it's the networking daemon
[02:03] <zircx> I'll have a nosey
[02:03] <attah> amicke, yes, i would say it's the best linux i've used ever
[02:03] <amicke> attah: ok, nice
[02:03] <_Raptor_> ademan_, the only reason I use WinXp is for TWO onlinegaes. By getting wine and winetools, I can remove my need for Xp all together.
[02:04] <amicke> attah:  did you like the theme i posted before?
[02:04] <attah> amicke, and you
[02:04] <air0day> nobody? no ideas for an rss reader that downloads files?
[02:04] <amicke> attah:  3 weeks
[02:04] <_Raptor_> ademan_, the exact reason for winetools (not just wine) is that I'm following a tutorial, as I've never used wine before.
[02:04] <ademan_> _Raptor_: ah, what games specifically?
[02:04] <attah> amicke, did unfortunately not even get there
[02:04] <lifepositive> whats the latest Firefox?
[02:04] <attah> amicke, just repaired the laptop now..
[02:05] <Pelo> _Raptor_,  what are you trhing to install ?
[02:05] <Aldoliel> lifepositive, 2.0
[02:05] <ademan_> lifepositive: 2.0?
[02:05] <fredJones840> ive got <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:05] <_Raptor_> ademan_, Starchamber and AutoassaultTCG.
[02:05] <amicke> attah: ok, should i post the link again?
[02:05] <ademan_> i prefer 1.5, 2.0 has been unstable as hell
[02:05] <_Raptor_> Pelo, as for now, I'm just trying to get winetools via apt.
[02:05] <attah> amicke, yes thx
[02:05] <lifepositive> how can I install Firefox 2.0?
[02:05] <fredJones840> ?
[02:05] <ademan_> lifepositive: you don't want it lol, its so unstable for me
[02:06] <ph8> thanks to mdious
[02:06] <ademan_> but it should be in dapper-backports
[02:06] <air0day> doesnt the official bittorent client have a terminal version that uses curses?
[02:06] <attah> amicke, at least i thought the laptop got ok, but noo
[02:06] <ademan_> _Raptor_: oh, unfortunately i'm totally unfamiliar with them, so maybe winetools is the best way to go, but generally you just run "wine NameOfInstallerExecutable" and the rest should be a breeze
[02:06] <easytiger> lifepositive: its on ubuntu 6.10
[02:06] <amicke> attah: maybe it's time for a new one? :)
[02:07] <amicke> attah:  this is what i would like it to look lie: http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot07np2.png
[02:07] <lifepositive> easytiger: I dont have 6.10
[02:07] <lifepositive> ademan_: unstable how?
[02:07] <attah> amicke, more then definitely..
[02:07] <easytiger> lifepositive, then just download it
[02:07] <ademan_> that reminds me, is there a way to wrap up a *.run executable installer in a deb?
[02:07] <ademan_> lifepositive: it just crashes a lot for me
[02:07] <lifepositive> easytiger: is it secure?
[02:07] <_Raptor_> ademan_, ok, thanks :) I'll try that before continuing my hunt for winetools :)
[02:07] <easytiger> lifepositive, its grand.
[02:07] <lifepositive> ademan_: ok!  if it does that for me, ill remove it
[02:07] <attah> amicke, looks nice, not far from the one i suggested :)
[02:07] <lifepositive> easytiger: define grand?
[02:08] <easytiger> lifepositive, i've had no issues with stability or anything
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> If you try to boot the Live CD on a system that doesn't have sufficient memory, will it just fail to load X and drop you to a console, or fail out completely?
[02:08] <amicke> attah: i installed the one you gave me but didn't notice much difference
[02:08] <Aldoliel> tonyyarusso, It just runs really, really slowly
[02:09] <attah> amicke, applied it? :P but yes it so happens to get orange under ubuntu
[02:09] <tonyyarusso> Aldoliel: Good 'nough
[02:09] <lifepositive> easytiger: ok! so from backports?
[02:10] <easytiger> lifepositive, can't you do dist-upgrade?
[02:10] <lifepositive> ademan_: others dont seem to have probs with Firefox 2.0
[02:10] <ademan_> lifepositive: well if they don't great, i do lol
[02:10] <Aldoliel> By really, really slow, I mean like half hour boot times
[02:10] <lifepositive> easytiger: when I type sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade it says nothing to upgrade
[02:10] <ademan_> i know there are some flash related problems, but i don't have those
[02:10] <amicke> attah:  gets blur for me
[02:10] <ademan_> i think my problem is related to the stupid ass totem embedded video player
[02:11] <amicke> attah:  this is very strange.. i think i bette sleep instead :)
[02:11] <attah> amicke, oh, depends on the enegine, select under prefs..
[02:11] <attah> try "human"
[02:12] <easytiger> lifepositive, sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[02:13] <easytiger> make sure you have latest lists etc
[02:13] <amicke> attah: think i have changed something everything looks strange now :P
[02:13] <amicke> attah:  got to sleep thanks for the help anyway.. and good luck with your computer...
[02:13] <attah> amicke, play around ^^
[02:14] <attah> amicke, thanks, same to u, works now
[02:14] <lifepositive> what does "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" do?
[02:15] <lifepositive> easytiger: i cant, as im using a modem
[02:15] <easytiger> lifepositive, ahh
[02:15] <g333k_work> what version of gcc was used to compile ubuntu 6.10?
[02:15] <easytiger> lifepositive, then just download it from mozilla
[02:16] <g333k_work> I need to compile madwifi.. what version do I have to use if I have ubuntu 6.10?
[02:16] <attah> So.. i'm experiencing a *very* annoying prolem.. gksu isn't working.. :(
[02:17] <Pelo> g33k the latest is always preferable
[02:17] <Pelo> attah,  try sudo then or gksudo
[02:18] <attah> pelo.. well sudo works and gksudo doesnt..
[02:18] <lifepositive> easytiger: what does "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" do?
[02:18] <mike_> sound wont work in kopete
[02:18] <Pelo> attah,  use sudo then
[02:19] <Pelo> lifepositive,  never heard of it
[02:19] <Pelo> try looiing it up in the manual
[02:19] <attah> pelo; well that works.. but is annoying. :P
[02:19] <Blue-Steel> quick question... ubuntu uses the same repositories as debian, rigth ?
[02:19] <lifepositive> Pelo: me either
[02:19] <Pelo> Blue-Steel,  not,  ubuntu has it's own repos
[02:19] <lifepositive> easytiger: ???
[02:19] <Blue-Steel> humm
[02:20] <mike_> can anyone help me get my sound to work with kopete?
[02:20] <drbreen> can one use debian unstable repositories, do an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and convert ubuntu to debian ?
[02:21] <IHK> how do i get opengl direct rendering and 3d acceleration to work?
[02:21] <mike_> how can i get soudnb to work in kopete messanger?
[02:22] <uri> Hey, does anybody know of a decent software synthesizer that'll run on Ubuntu? Something along the lines of FLStudio ... I've looked around but had no luck.
[02:22] <drbreen> !opengl
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <SpacePuppy> IHK: what kind of card?
[02:22] <drbreen> !3d
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <IHK> nvidia
[02:22] <SpacePuppy> !nvidia
[02:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:22] <Blue-Steel> anyne here came from debian ?
[02:22] <drbreen> stupid me...
[02:22] <uri> Blue-Steel: i ran debian on my old computer, i dunno if i can be of any help though
[02:22] <mckinnoj> hey guys
[02:23] <SpacePuppy> nae..
[02:23] <mckinnoj> i have a quick question if anyone is willing to help me out here
[02:23] <SpacePuppy> !ask
[02:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:23] <Blue-Steel> well  i ask just to know how different will be be an ubutu server install  vs debian
[02:23] <mike_> can anyonehelp me get soudn to work on kopete?
[02:23] <mckinnoj> so i just installed 3ddesktop...and no i'm not runnig compiz or XGL an dont want to
[02:24] <mckinnoj> i'm just trying to bind a key to activate 3ddesktop and i cant figure itout
[02:24] <mckinnoj> can anyone help me out
[02:24] <uri> Blue-Steel: well, installing the desktop for ubuntu was pretty easy, much more so than debian. i'd imagine the server would be much the same
[02:25] <PFA> is it possible to network ubuntu & windows 98?
[02:25] <Pelo> PFA,  you need to use samba I beleive
[02:25] <mckinnoj> can anyone help me out
[02:25] <PFA> Pelo: OK
[02:25] <PFA> thanks
[02:25] <Pelo> mckinnoj,  no , we do not help anyone here
[02:25] <mckinnoj> lol
[02:26] <ReYnoLd_ubaya> a
[02:26] <ReYnoLd_ubaya> a
[02:26] <mckinnoj> Pelo, why thank you very much
[02:26] <Pelo> mckinnoj,  the most you get is someone will answer you if they know how to help
[02:26] <ReYnoLd_ubaya> a
[02:26] <ReYnoLd_ubaya> a
[02:26] <Pelo> mckinnoj,   try looking up your problem in the forum
[02:26] <MinceR> a?
[02:26] <Pelo> b!
[02:27] <mike_> sound wont work in kopete only any ideas?
[02:27] <d4m3ntz> hey all
[02:27] <d4m3ntz> does anyone know what package ubuntu uses to detect laptop hotkeys for volume control and such?
[02:27] <qc_> What is the default keyboard shortcut to log out of the current X session, so you can login with another?
[02:27] <Pelo> mike_, check the kopete preferences,  if that donT' work try reinstalling
[02:28] <mike_> Pelo, woudl reinstalling really do something?
[02:28] <Pelo> mike_,  might help if something got borked the first time,  and if you compiled from source make sure you have all the dependencies
[02:29] <mike_> Pelo,  i didnt compile from source
[02:29] <qc_> What is the default keyboard shortcut to log out of the current X session, so you can login with another?
[02:30] <lifepositive> ademan_: you there?
[02:30] <lifepositive> ademan_: To get the flash plugin working properly you may have to add "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to the firefox launching script.
[02:30] <Pelo> qc_,  no one seems to know, check the man pages
[02:30] <mckinnoj> guys do u know how to apply global keybindings for certain applications
[02:31] <Aldoliel> mckinnoj, System Menu > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts?
[02:32] <MinceR> gn
[02:33] <ademan_> lifepositive: flash has been working absolutely fine for me
[02:34] <ademan_> its been embedded movie clips that seem to cause the crash
[02:35] <Riyonuk> Hi
[02:37] <air0day> is there an rss reader for linux that lets me subscribe to an rss feed of downloadable files and match on certain patterns, then download those files to a specific location? my bittorrent client doesnt have rss, but it can pick up files from a certain directory
[02:37] <Pelo> hello Riyonuk
[02:38] <Pelo> air0day,   I use utorrent on wine, it has an rss downloader built in
[02:38] <ademan_> air0day: i think there's a fairly popular KDE rss reader, unfortunately i forgot what its called, gimme a second
[02:38] <Riyonuk> I would be in linux, but I cant get internet to work
[02:38] <Daehlie> anyone used a good system for standardizing and automating the deployment of linux desktops in a business environment, preferably free, but i'll take anything at this point
[02:38] <Pelo> wait, I told you about this yesterday
[02:38] <air0day> pelo: utorrent on wine runs like ass :)
[02:38] <Riyonuk> I go to network connections, and it shows dial-up, and ethernet, but not my wireless card
[02:38] <Riyonuk> what gives?
[02:38] <air0day> it eats 45% of my cpu when torrenting 5 files
[02:38] <fryfrog> okay, stupid ubuntu question:  how do i edit menu entries?
[02:38] <Pelo> air0day,  what did you do to it ? it works fine
[02:38] <ademan_> fryfrog: right click on the menu
[02:39] <ademan_> edit menus :-)
[02:39] <fryfrog> oh, duh :)
[02:39] <Pelo> !wireless  | Riyonuk
[02:39] <ubotu> Riyonuk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:39] <fryfrog> thanks :)
[02:39] <fryfrog> i was right clicking on the entry :)
[02:39] <kuja> fryfrog: System -> Preferences -> Menu Layout
[02:39] <Daehlie> Riyonuk: does the card show up under lspci and does the module for it appear under lsmod?
[02:39] <air0day> Pelo: i used it. and then it used 45% of my cpu. it also paints the screen slowly and is difficult to work with. plus the rss doesnt work at all. it highlights matches like it did in windows, but then doesnt download them.
[02:39] <kuja> Or from the console, type: alacarte
[02:39] <Pelo> air0day,  I don't have this problem it never ever takes more then 3%cpu on mine
[02:39] <ademan_> air0day: akregator   is the name of it, you can check its project page and see if it has the features you want
[02:39] <air0day> okay, well i do. so, is there a way to get a good rss downloader?
[02:39] <air0day> thanks ademan
[02:40] <Riyonuk> woah woah, you lost me :p
[02:41] <Riyonuk> lspci?
[02:41] <Pelo> Riyonuk,  type the nick of the person you are talking to at the begining of the line so they know you are talking to them
[02:42] <Jimb1> test
[02:42] <Riyonuk> Oh
[02:42] <Riyonuk> Pelo, Oh
[02:42] <Riyonuk> Pelo, Ok
[02:42] <Pelo> Riyonuk,  use sparcely
[02:42] <Jimb1> has anyone had any problems using a flat panel monitor after loading the Nvidia drivers available in Synaptic?
[02:42] <Jimb1> considering loading them
[02:43] <Daehlie> Riyonuk: lspci and lsmod are commands that will list the current pci devices and current loaded modules
[02:43] <Riyonuk> Daehlie: Whats lspci
[02:43] <Riyonuk> Ahh
[02:43] <Daehlie> respectively
[02:43] <Riyonuk> I remmber someone telling me that, and they said I needed drivers
[02:44] <Daehlie> if your card does not appear you may need to load a module for it or end up loading the windows drier in ndiswrapper
[02:44] <Riyonuk> well I have the windows driver on my desktop in windows
[02:44] <Jimb1> I previously loaded some Nvidia drivers through automatrix ( I know...bad) and lost the display and had to re install Ubuntu...wondering if the Nvidia drivers in Synaptic are any better.
[02:46] <Jimb1> Are the Nvidia drivers in Synaptic safe to use with a flat panel?
[02:47] <Pelo> Jimb1,  try it and let us know
[02:47] <Jimb1> Pelo, have you heard anything about them?
[02:48] <Pelo> Jimb1,  nope,  but I am guessing that the nvidia drivers from the repos are "endorced" by ubu
[02:48] <Jimb1> so most likely will not kill the display like the ones from automtrix did
[02:48] <Jimb1> I found out about automatrix the hard way
[02:49] <Pelo> I've never had problems with automatix but then I only realy use it for the codec stuff
[02:49] <yaaar> word
[02:49] <Pelo> yep that is a word
[02:50] <Jimb1> Pelo: is there any way to increase the screen resolution without installing the Nvidia stuff?
[02:50] <Jimb1> that you know of
[02:50] <Pelo> Jimb1,  edit xorg.conf
[02:50] <Jimb1> k
[02:50] <Maurox> Jimb1: and why you dont want to install nvidia and stuff ?
[02:50] <Pelo> Jimb1,  you need to add the resolution for choice and adjust the horizontal refresh rate
[02:51] <Jimb1> Mauriox: I installed the Nvidia drivers from automatrix and lost my display.  You here?
[02:51] <Maurox> mmmmmm
[02:51] <Jimb1> Yes, Nvidia 4600 on this one
[02:52] <Jimb1> geforce 7600 gt/oc on my windows box
[02:52] <Maurox> Jimb1: did you do some other instalations or upgrading ????
[02:52] <Pelo> Jimb1,   installing ubuntu takes  30 minutes,   install the nvidia drivers from synaptic and if it doesn't work well you'll only have a 30 minute installation to do , I am guessing you've already waisted more time wondering
[02:52] <michaelwilson> my swap isn't working and my memory is constantly showing its almost all being used...
[02:53] <Jimb1> Maurox..probably..this is my 5th day with linux
[02:53] <Jimb1> I was installing all kinds of stuff but those drivers from automatrix was what broke it
[02:53] <Maurox> that could happen if you update your kernel, and you don install linux-headers for  the new kernel
[02:54] <Jimb1> pelo: ubuntu install is only 20 minutes on this machine, but last time I had problems getting second hd to show up
[02:54] <Pelo> Jimb1,   relax then, this isn'T like windows, just backup your /home/user/ folder (including hiddent folder and files) and you'll be fine
[02:54] <Pelo> Jimb1,  but now you know what to do so you'll know how to solve it
[02:55] <Jimb1> Pelo, true
[02:55] <Jimb1> ill install em and see what happens
[02:55] <Jimb1> brb..most likely
[02:55] <Pelo> you'll be fine
[02:55] <michaelwilson> how do youo know if you swap is working?
[02:55] <VigoFusio1> Greetings
[02:55] <Pelo> relax , enjoy the linux experience
[02:56] <Allz> ljl are you alive?
[02:56] <michaelwilson> isnt the swap supposed to kindof belike backuup memory?
[02:56] <fryfrog> michaelwilson: look at top
[02:56] <Eeyore-Jr> swap is used if you are low on memory
[02:56] <Pelo> michaelwilson,   system > admin > system monitor,  second tab  you'll see your virtual memory there which is your swap I beleive
[02:56] <michaelwilson> ok my memory is at full almost all the time... and it shows my swap not even being used
[02:56] <fryfrog> michaelwilson: if you have enogh ram in your system, very little swap will be used.  if you need more ram, you'll know because you'll be using 100's of mb of swap :)
[02:56] <Maurox> yes but you can configure  iit
[02:56] <Pelo> michaelwilson,  swapp is mor like memory extension
[02:56] <Linuturk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301380 help?
[02:56] <fryfrog> michaelwilson: thats because linux is good about using memory to cache disk info
[02:57] <fryfrog> michaelwilson: as long as you *aren't* using swap, your system is a-okay
[02:57] <michaelwilson> so what does it mean to cache disk info?
[02:57] <fryfrog> michaelwilson: well, aren't using more than a few meg of swap that is
[02:57] <michaelwilson> the whole memory bar is full
[02:57] <ompaul> michaelwilson, that is because your ram is grabbed and made available should the system want it try "free" to have look at swap
[02:57] <lifepositive> michaelwilson: hello
[02:57] <fryfrog> michaelwilson: every time linux reads from the hard drive, it caches as much of the data as possible
[02:57] <fryfrog> michaelwilson: in case you need it again
[02:57] <lifepositive> ademan_: what doesnt work in firefox 2.0?
[02:58] <lifepositive> OmniD: hur mor du? :)
[02:58] <lifepositive> ompaul: hur mor du? :)
[02:58] <ompaul> michaelwilson, gnu/linux holds all much as it can in memory
[02:58] <michaelwilson> k
[02:58] <ompaul> lifepositive, this is an english language channel
[02:58] <michaelwilson> also, i have theese warning windows that pop up in the bottom right side of the screen, and i have the option to click hide but the button doesent seem to work
[02:59] <fryfrog> what are they warning you about?
[02:59] <lifepositive> ompaul: ok
[02:59] <michaelwilson> well... the last of the 4 that i cant hide says that Azureus did not shut down tidily.. blah blah blah.
[02:59] <ivx> hello, what command is it to list the processors?
[02:59] <fryfrog> ivx: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:00] <ivx> fryfrog thank you
[03:00] <UKMatt> my digital camera used to connect to Ub and not it doesnt, are there any packages I should try install/reinstalling?
[03:00] <Pelo> michaelwilson, those are az warning  ,  you need to quit az before rebooting,  other wise it needs to recheck the downloading files
[03:00] <michaelwilson> how come i cand hide them?
[03:00] <Pelo> michaelwilson,  most  bittorrrent clients do that
[03:01] <Pelo> michaelwilson,  don'T know  maybe an option in az , ask them about it #azureus-support
[03:01] <Pelo> UKMatt,  lookup your camerca model in the forum for instructions
[03:01] <michaelwilson> k
[03:01] <Jadedwolf> Anyone here use cedega alot?  Do I just locate and direct the OS to find them? or do I need hda? drivers.
[03:02] <fredJones840> hows the newest ubuntu release 6.10?
[03:03] <ivx> hey, if i do gksu "update-manager -c" will my apache http.conf and everything stay the same?
[03:03] <Pelo> wraithsoul,  or automatix
[03:03] <fredJones840> im dl'ing it now
[03:03] <fredJones840> the 5.04 wouldnt work for me
[03:03] <fredJones840> the bsdutils wouldnt load
[03:03] <Jimbo> installed Nvidia legacy driver and still here
[03:03] <Pelo> VigoFusio1,  you might have to edit your xorg.conf file
[03:03] <wraithsoul> Pelo, it is something added to the panel.
[03:03] <Aldoliel> fredJones840, The 6 is for 2006 and the 10 is for October
[03:04] <wraithsoul> like, an embedded thing so when I close something, it stays open in the panel.
[03:04] <Pelo> wraithsoul,  alacarte ?
[03:04] <Aldoliel> wraithsoul, Desktop Menu?
[03:04] <VigoFusio1> Pelo: Thank you
[03:04] <fredJones840> ok
[03:04] <Pelo> wraithsoul,  notification area
[03:04] <LaserLine> Ever since I installed Edgy Eft my web came doesn't work I just get a grey screen...anyone have any ideas
[03:04] <fredJones840> im just wondering if its worth the download
[03:04] <_goofy_> is there a keybord hotkey to delete a File perminantly and not send it the the trash
[03:04] <Jimbo> How do I increase screen resolution again?
[03:04] <dibblego> how do you make it so that a user can sudo?
[03:04] <wraithsoul> notification ^.^
[03:04] <Aldoliel> _goofy_, Use Shift+Del
[03:04] <wraithsoul> thanks <3
[03:05] <Pelo> wraithsoul,  rightclick on the panet add stuff ,  and select from the list
[03:05] <wraithsoul> Yeah
[03:05] <_goofy_> thanks aldoiel
[03:05] <wraithsoul> I just forgot the name
[03:05] <Pelo> dibblego,  what do you mean ?
[03:05] <Aldoliel> dibblego, Admin group I think
[03:05] <dibblego> Pelo, I just found it - /etc/sudoers
[03:05] <Harry> hey whats up
[03:05] <Harry> can someone help me install ubuntu 6.06 with vmware
[03:06] <wraithsoul> yes
[03:06] <Harry> or direct me o a guide
[03:06] <Aldoliel> dibblego, Surely it's easier to add them to the group...?
[03:06] <Harry> to*
[03:06] <ivx> harry are you doing a fresh install or what?
[03:06] <wraithsoul> have you installed ubuntu?
[03:06] <Harry> fresh with vmware
[03:06] <FantasticFoo> hi. when i try and remove the xorg-driver-fglrx package, it says that it was automatically installed and it suggests i use "apt-get autoremove" to remove it. what's that about? should i use autoremove or what?
[03:06] <dibblego> Aldoliel, what group?
[03:06] <Jimbo> Will this os run at a screen resolution higher than 1024/768 ?
[03:06] <Jadedwolf> No one uses linux to play games?
[03:06] <ivx> harry why not 6.10?
[03:06] <wraithsoul> go into terminal, and type in sudo apt-get remove gnome
[03:06] <wraithsoul> ^.^
[03:07] <wraithsoul> that is a joke.
[03:07] <Harry> ivx cause it has problems with grapiihcs and my wireless adapter
[03:07] <tklich> hello
[03:07] <ivx> harry what wifi card do you have and what grpahics card?
[03:07] <Harry> so how do i install with vmware workstation
[03:07] <Harry> i have a dlink gwl132
[03:07] <Harry> and ati radeon 200 se 120 mb
[03:07] <tklich> my usb wireless adapter is rausb0, is there a way i can prevent the computer from looking for an IP address every so often?
[03:07] <Harry> 9200*
[03:08] <tklich> it keeps kicking my connection at variable times
[03:08] <X5-452> Uhm... every time I close the screen of my laptop (and the screen blanks) when I open it again the screen resolution has changed to... I don't know how to describe it, I have uploaded a photo here ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/90588480@N00/299765695/ ) Any idea? I am using Ubuntu 6.10
[03:08] <Aldoliel> dibblego, admin
[03:08] <fredJones840>
[03:08] <ivx> well harry i don't know what vmware workstation is. do you have your ubuntu disk?
[03:09] <Harry> ivx if u dont have vmware then no point of you helping me
[03:09] <Aldoliel> tklich, Why would you want to do that?
[03:09] <Harry> but thanks for the help anyways
[03:09] <dibblego> Aldoliel, probably easier, yes, how does one do that?
[03:09] <Pelo> Harry,  look it up in the forum you'll have a better chance there I think
[03:09] <ivx> yeah harry lets not be mean :(
[03:09] <FantasticFoo> what does it mean if apt bugs me about "autoremove"? anyone know?
[03:09] <Staz> in ubunto how can I release my ip and then request a new one from teh dhcp server?
[03:10] <Aldoliel> System Menu > Administration > Users and Groups
[03:10] <Harry> ivx iw asnt beign mean just that if you didnt know what vmware was then i dont how u could help me
[03:10] <dibblego> Aldoliel, I am not running X - I'll figure it out if you don't know, thanks
[03:10] <hokatichenci> Is there a problem with the dapper portmap?
[03:10] <tklich> Staz, ifconfig yourwirelessadapter down
[03:10] <tklich> then
[03:10] <hokatichenci> Portmap is failing to function and NFS is not working
[03:10] <AngryElf> what path/file does vim load automatically by default?
[03:11] <tklich> Staz, iwconfig your wirelessadapter yourssid key yourkey
[03:11] <AngryElf> i.e. something equivolent to ~/.gnomerc
[03:11] <Staz> cheers
[03:11] <tklich> Staz, dhclient yourwireless adapter
[03:11] <Pelo> X5-452,  try looking up your laptop model in the forum , maybe your problem is covered there
[03:11] <tklich> anybody know how to prevent the computer from looking for an ip every so often?
[03:12] <X5-452> Ok, thanks
[03:12] <tklich> it keeps disconnecting me
[03:12] <Pelo> tklich,   try the forum
[03:13] <dibblego> tklich, I have a USB wireless NIC that disconnects every so often too and it fails to reconnect - I have never figured out why
[03:13] <tklich> dibblego, yeah mine is usb also
[03:13] <dibblego> tklich, it is RT2500 (rausb0) I think
[03:13] <dibblego> the Asus WL-167G to be exact
[03:13] <tklich> dibblego, exactly what i have
[03:13] <tklich> um
[03:14] <tklich> mine is a linksys though
[03:14] <tklich> same chipset though
[03:14] <dibblego> ok
[03:14] <tklich> dibblego, i think it has something to do with trying to pull an IP every so often
[03:14] <dibblego> tklich, well I'm one step closer to a solution - let me know how you go :)
[03:15] <Jadedwolf>  Does anyone know a way to test FPS in linux? just to see if I have a problem with graphics or with game
[03:16] <tklich> dibblego, what are you doing to fix it?
[03:16] <Harry> hey anyone who has vmware can you help em isntall ubuntu pleasse?
[03:16] <dibblego> tklich, nothing mate, I gave up - sorry I cannot be of help
[03:17] <Pelo> Harry,  try looking it up in the forum
[03:17] <dibblego> how do I add a user to the admin group?
[03:17] <IHK> how do i enable/turn on/install opengl direct rendering?
[03:18] <Aldoliel> tklich, Sorry, don't know how to change groups from the terminal
[03:18] <lifepositive> im installing Firefox 2.0 and the instructions say to Install it to /opt/firefox:  But where do I create this?  from home directory?
[03:18] <deema> anybody here use prism54 islsm?
[03:18] <Harry> pelo i did
[03:18] <Harry> but it was only for isntalling vmware on ubuntu
[03:19] <Aldoliel> lifepositive, from the root directory, that's the full path
[03:19] <bun-bun> !bug
[03:19] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:19] <Harry> hello
[03:19] <deema> hello
[03:19] <Harry> i need a guide on how to install ubuntu using vmware
[03:19] <lifepositive> Aldoliel: whats the /opt folder used for?  mine is empty
[03:20] <Pelo> harry , try google
[03:20] <lifepositive> Aldoliel: it says i dot have permission to copy the firefox file there,. what can I do?
[03:20] <Pelo> lifepositive, http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/tutorials/linuxdirectorystructure/
[03:21] <Aldoliel> Use sudo?
[03:21] <deema> anybody here willing to help me get a wifi driver to work?
[03:21] <Pelo> lifepositive,  you need root access,   open nautilus from the terminal using  gksu  nautilus
[03:21] <Pelo> !wireless | deema
[03:21] <ubotu> deema: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:22] <Harry> eplo google no help
[03:22] <Harry> pelo*
[03:22] <dibblego> according to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_allow_more_sudoers it is adduser username admin, but this fails with "adduser: The group `admin' does not exist."
[03:22] <Pelo> ...
[03:22] <Harry> it only shows how to isntall vmware on ubuntu
[03:22] <Harry> but i want to install ubuntu with vmware
[03:22] <Alter-Ego> !install
[03:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:22] <Pelo> dibblego,  system > admin > user & groups
[03:22] <dibblego> Harry, that is pretty simple - put the CD in and press go
[03:22] <dibblego> Pelo, I am not running X
[03:23] <Pelo> dibblego,  I can'T help then
[03:23] <Aldoliel> dibblego, addgroup admin ?
[03:23] <lifepositive> why doesnt firefox download support resume?
[03:23] <Pelo> lifepositive,  ask the ff ppl
[03:24] <Aldoliel> Then adduser username admin
[03:24] <lifepositive> Pelo: ff?
[03:25] <Pelo> FireFox
[03:25] <dibblego> Aldoliel, that worked thanks - new problems now $ sudo su - sudo: unable to lookup none via gethostbyname()
[03:26] <dibblego> gah, there is no admin group in /etc/sudoers
[03:26] <Aldoliel> dibblego, You sure? There should be
[03:26] <dibblego> not on this machine for some reason
[03:27] <lifepositive> Pelo: ok thanks
[03:27] <cari_tmen_ce> hi....
[03:29] <deema> anybody here use prism54?
[03:29] <Aldoliel> Erm, add it then, with visudo ?
[03:29] <dibblego> I am doing that
[03:29] <Aldoliel> Fair enough
[03:30] <dibblego> it doesn't like the fact that it can't look up its hostname
[03:30] <trappist> if I type 'excel' in the console I get told about gnumeric.  that's pretty awesome.  what does that?  does the same thing for 'traceroute' if I don't have it installed.
[03:30] <Aldoliel> Erm, /etc/hosts ?
[03:31] <Pelo> trappist,  might be part of gnumeric,  I don'T have it installed and I don't get the result you get
[03:32] <trappist> Pelo: I get it on one machine and not another, and they both have gnumeric installed.  And, it also does it for traceroute, with no traceroute installed.  and there's no excel in my $PATH and no shell alias for it.
[03:32] <Aldoliel> I have gnumeric and it doesn't work for me
[03:32] <trappist> Aldoliel: yeah I think there's some other package with like a database of stuff that it'll give you tips about, that I have installed on one box and not another
[03:34] <trappist> oh! the command-not-found package :)
[03:35] <rexbron> I have a question, how would I have my server at home ssh into my webserver and do an rsync backup and automate the whole process?
[03:35] <trappist> rexbron: rsync uses ssh by default - set up your keys (so you don't need a password) and make a cron job for the rsync
[03:36] <rexbron> trappist: could you point me to a sane cron howto?
[03:36] <Kingsqueak> 'man crontab' should tell the tale pretty well
[03:37] <Pelo> what a lovely way of putting it
[03:37] <trappist> rexbron: there's not much to it.  you just make a line like '30 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/myrsyncscript (for one that runs every night at 3:30_
[03:37] <trappist> )
[03:38] <Kingsqueak> sorry, more accurately  'man 5 crontab'
[03:38] <trappist> rexbron: that is, you put that line in your crontab by saying 'crontab -e'
[03:38] <rexbron> can it be in the home dir or must it be in usr/local/bin?
[03:38] <deema> anybody here use islsm?
[03:38] <trappist> rexbron: it can be anywhere, or you can put the rsync command itself in the crontab
[03:38] <rexbron> ok
[03:39] <rexbron> ty
[03:42] <_allz> hello .i need help .i cant play any movies or stuff .can someone tell me .what i need to unpack from synaptic !.
[03:42] <Kingsqueak> anyone know what locale pack I'm missing that causes things like ' to be scrambled in manpage output?
[03:43] <slavik> OMFG!!! Beryl owns!!! (running in XGL since in fglrx)
[03:44] <slavik> How can I set up the fire effect when windows close?
[03:44] <lastnode> !beryl
[03:44] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:44] <lastnode> !codec > _allz
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <lastnode> !codecs > _allz
[03:48] <luminousnerd> !beryl
[03:48] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:49] <VigoFuse> Greetings
[03:50] <Pelo> wb VigoFuse
[03:50] <jamesbrink> how can i install linux sources 2.6.17
[03:51] <VigoFuse> Thank you Pello, had to revert to XP to get back, EE froze up.
[03:51] <crimsun> jamesbrink: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.17
[03:51] <crimsun> jamesbrink: why do you need it?
[03:51] <jamesbrink> i need the newer version for bcm43xx
[03:51] <jamesbrink> im currently running 2.6.15
[03:52] <jamesbrink> i need to patch the bcm43xx driver for packet injection
[03:52] <crimsun> many people report that 2.6.17 is no better.
[03:53] <Kingsqueak> interesting if LANG=C manpages are fine but with en_US.utf8 they have mangled characters
[03:53] <jamesbrink> crimsun: that did not work, is there a way to search through the list of packages
[03:53] <eegore> I get an error loading vncviewer; channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed
[03:53] <eegore> ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream
[03:53] <VigoFuse> Some of this is comeing back, been a few years, but the mind stilll works,,,,,,sorta
[03:54] <teledyn> Kingsqueak: that's my LANG setting and man pages display fine
[03:54] <crimsun> jamesbrink: you have to download it manually if you're using dapper.
[03:54] <teledyn> Kingsqueak: it could just be the font you're using in your terminal app
[03:54] <jamesbrink> oh ok
[03:55] <jamesbrink> any particular place i can grab it from
[03:55] <Kingsqueak> teledyn: ah, yeah possibly
[03:55] <jamesbrink> im so use to gentoo i dont know where to find things lol
[03:56] <Kingsqueak> teledyn: ayup, thnx, hadn't thought about that, using an old ansi font
[03:58] <Kingsqueak> actually aterm and rxvt don't like LANG set to en_US.utf8 either with whatever their default font is, maybe it's my fontpath
[03:58] <VigoFuse> aha! the drivers are available, ciao
[03:58] <botxj> awww, i love UTF-8
[03:59] <teledyn> Kingsqueak: try this:  rxvt -fn "-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--1
[03:59] <teledyn> 2-120-72-72-c-60-iso10646-1"
[03:59] <teledyn> or rxvt -fn "xft:Terminus:pixelsize=15"     you need to install the terminus font for these
[03:59] <Kingsqueak> urxvt: unable to load base fontset, please specify a valid one
[03:59] <Kingsqueak> k
[04:00] <teledyn> rxvt -fn "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman:pixelsize=14"
[04:00] <Kingsqueak> second one worked
[04:00] <nick`> Whats the default root password?
[04:01] <sethk> nick`, with the desktop install, it is set to disable root login.  You can set the root password, or you can use sudo
[04:01] <Kingsqueak> teledyn: thnx, that was pretty annoying, I totally forgot xft works too
[04:01] <nick`> sethk:  My friend is at my house and im not there, he needs to login and im not giving him my password.  How can he get in?
[04:01] <Pelo> make a new account ?
[04:01] <sethk> nick`, if you can log in remotely, create a new user for him
[04:02] <nick`> sethk, how?
[04:02] <lifepositive> sethk: hello
[04:02] <nick`> i dont have vnc installed on it.
[04:02] <sethk> nick`, with ssh
[04:02] <sethk> nick`, although if you didn't install the ssh server, you can't do that
[04:02] <nick`> sethk: pray tell
[04:02] <lifepositive> sethk: how you been?
[04:02] <nick`> sethk: guess not
[04:02] <sethk> nick`, I'm a bit confused.  You want to give him the root password, but not your own?
[04:02] <nick`> sethk: so is there no way?
[04:02] <lifepositive> LinuxRush: welcome
[04:02] <sethk> lifepositive, fine, thanks.
[04:02] <lifepositive> sethk: :)
[04:03] <nick`> sethk: yep
[04:03] <LinuxRush> hi guys
[04:03] <sethk> nick`, if you did the default install, I think there is no way.
[04:03] <nick`> ><
[04:03] <sethk> nick`, if he has the root password, he can become any user on the system, including you.
[04:03] <lifepositive> if someone stole my system, can they find my Dapper login password and enter my system?
[04:03] <sethk> lifepositive, they can boot a cd and change the password
[04:03] <nick`> sethk: Thats fine and dandy, I just need him on the computer without knowing my password, being as its the same for everything.
[04:03] <psusi> lifepositive: given physical access to the system they don't NEED your password to get in
[04:03] <lifepositive> sethk: what CD?
[04:03] <sethk> lifepositive, which is just as good.  but, technically, no, the password is not reversible.
[04:04] <lifepositive> psusi: so what good is the password if someone can easily get access?
[04:04] <vook> I'm compiling a kernel, and it seems I once again made the mistake of obtaining the source through kernel.org rather than via aptitude.  For those in the know, if I obtain my kernel source via ubuntu sources, will that be enough to allow me to compile in broadcom wifi support? (I hate to waste anymore bandwidth)  -or- is there a way I can download just the Ubuntu patches and use the sources I received from kernel.org??
[04:04] <psusi> technically it is.. it just takes a long time
[04:04] <sethk> lifepositive, any bootable linux cd.  ubuntu install, fedora install, fedora rescue, etc.
[04:04] <lifepositive> sethk: so what good is the password if someone can easily get access?
[04:04] <ale[x] > i'm trying to pxeboot ubuntu and use a local mirror but i seem to be missing a file
[04:04] <ale[x] > nic-restricted-firmware-2.6.17-10-386-di_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.udeb
[04:04] <psusi> and you don't even need a cd... you can just ask grub to pass the proper parameters to the kernel and you're at a root shell
[04:04] <sethk> psusi, well, by brute force, trying every possible password, but that's not what he was asking.  :)
[04:04] <lifepositive> sethk: so why bother having a login password then?
[04:04] <teledyn> lifepositive: just su to root than run passwd and set it
[04:04] <ale[x] > the iso only seems to bring nic-restricted-firmware-2.6.17-10-386-di_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.udeb
[04:04] <nick`> sethk: If I have a ubuntu live cd, would he be able to get on?
[04:04] <sethk> psusi, that's true, if there is a delay set at the grub prompt.  I take that delay out on sensitive systems.
[04:05] <sethk> nick`, yes, sure.
[04:05] <psusi> lifepositive: because it keeps casual people with physical access out, and keeps those without physical access out
[04:05] <nick`> sethk: what would he have to do?
[04:05] <lifepositive> teledyn: so you mean anyone can easily get access to my system? if so, why bother having a login password?
[04:05] <sethk> nick`, as root, and he'll be able to do whatever you don't want him to do as you.
[04:05] <lifepositive> psusi: ok
[04:05] <teledyn> lifepositive: how could they?
[04:05] <sethk> lifepositive, the assumption is that nobody physically walks away with your machine.
[04:05] <LinuxRush> i would like to know why my ubuntu system acts up, if I start my laptop with the power cable plugged in? This is what happens: I start my laptop, select ubuntu - generic mode, then the splash screen comes up, and I enter my username and password at the login screen, then gnome's dialog box starts (specifying what it's currently doing) and then i see the wallpaper. NOTHING ELSE though :(
[04:05] <psusi> sethk: taking the delay out does nothing, you can still stop it and enter parameters... you need to make it require a password
[04:05] <teledyn> lifepositive: do they have a logon?
[04:05] <lifepositive> psusi: wellI better encrypt everthing then
[04:05] <nick`> sethk: I mean, he puts the ubuntu live cd in the drive, then what does he do
[04:06] <conreyt> where can i get some cool skydomes for compiz?
[04:06] <LinuxRush> but, if i start my laptop without the power cable, everything works fine, gnome loads just fine!
[04:06] <lifepositive> sethk: lucky then I use pgp to encrypt files if its that easy to enter the system
[04:06] <psusi> lifepositive: if you are worried about someone stealing the machine to get to your data, then yea... encrypt it
[04:06] <e3> Crap I was banned at #ubuntu-offtopic for no reason at all. -_-;;
[04:06] <sethk> nick`, he turns the machine on, at least that's what I would do next.  :)
[04:06] <LjL> e3: this is no place to discuss that
[04:06] <sethk> e3, hard to be banned at off topic
[04:07] <reZo> Does anyone know where I could find a binary download of resolveip? My MySQL ./configure is complaining I don't have it.
[04:07] <sethk> LjL, you want him to take it to off topic?  :)
[04:07] <LjL> no... to #ubuntu-ops if he really wants
[04:07] <psusi> lifepositive: more specifically, someone stealing the machine who knows what they are doing and actually cares about your data
[04:07] <e3> And I shall.
[04:07] <Pelo> reZo,  google
[04:07] <nick`> sethk: Please, he has to leave soon, just get this one file and hes gone..  What does he do with the livecd after he puts it in?  Does he have to login?  I've never dealt with livecd's before
[04:07] <lifepositive> psusi: ok cheers
[04:08] <the_ben> what's a good pgp program then?
[04:08] <reZo> Pelo, I'v tried. I can't find it.
[04:08] <psusi> umm.... pgp
[04:08] <nick`> !pgp
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <nick`> lol
[04:08] <psusi> or gpg
[04:08] <the_ben> straight up pgp, makes since
[04:08] <sethk> nick`, I don't know the ubuntu live cd very well.  I assume that he can just do control-alt-f1 and get a console.
[04:08] <teledyn> the_ben: gnupg
[04:08] <lifepositive> in Firefox, I can save websites in the tool bar! where is this stored as when I upgraded to Firefox 2.0. the websites didnt get copied across!  any ideas?
[04:08] <LinuxRush> guys, help please?
[04:08] <LinuxRush> or point me to the right direction :)
[04:09] <sethk> LinuxRush, I've seen them fail with the battery, but never seen one work with battery and fail with house power.  very odd.
[04:09] <Pelo> LinuxRush,  try the forum
[04:09] <sethk> LinuxRush, I would make my power control settings for both situations identical.
[04:09] <teledyn> Linuturk: maybe turn off gdm and start it
[04:10] <LinuxRush> sethk, i know. this was very weird. and that's not the only problem.... the wireless is not working either... but I have a good feeling that, that problem is very solvable
[04:10] <Jimbo> whats a command to run an installed program ?
[04:10] <LinuxRush> sethk, ok. how do i go about that?
[04:10] <Pelo> Jimbo,  whatever the name of the program is
[04:10] <Jimbo> just type the name in terminal ?
[04:10] <sethk> LinuxRush, I'm not sure, I use kde and gnome does it slightly differently.
[04:10] <LinuxRush> hmm. ok
[04:10] <lifepositive> psusi: I use PGP with an 2048 key!  Can they ever decrypt these files without my  password?
[04:10] <Pelo> Jimbo,  that should do it
[04:10] <sethk> LinuxRush, but look in the screen/desktop configuration, you'll find it.
[04:10] <Jimbo> k thanx
[04:11] <taryn> hi all. trying to install gatos but getting errors compiling about a few __proto packages not found. did a search in synaptic but found nothing.
[04:11] <sethk> lifepositive, well, you can decrypt anything by brute force with enough time.  but theoretically, it's not practical to do so
[04:11] <sethk> lifepositive, anything that uses a key is vulnerable to an attack that tries every possible password
[04:11] <JoshJ> "but theoretically, it's not practical" <-- head explodes
[04:11] <Pelo> taryn,  try looking up shortened version of the names or look them up on google
[04:12] <LinuxRush> sethk, ok. so your suggestion is to keep the power control settings for "plugged in" and "on-battery" same? i am on it! thanks sethk
[04:12] <sethk> LinuxRush, the only thing I can think of that changes.
[04:12] <lifepositive> sethk: ok!
[04:13] <nick`> off topic, but does anyone know a good brute forcer for basic http auth?
[04:13] <lifepositive> in firefox, the search for upgrade option is ghosted!  so how do you check for firefox upgrades?
[04:13] <Pelo>  /ban nick`   no off topic
[04:13] <nick`> =o
[04:13] <Pelo> oh, right, I don'T have ops here
[04:14] <ArrenLex> xD
[04:14] <Somniis>  hi all
[04:14] <nick`> lmao Pelo you scared me
[04:14] <Pelo> abusing power you don'T have is a bitch
[04:14] <nick`> yeah
[04:15] <PGT2_turbo> y
[04:15] <PGT2_turbo> yo
[04:15] <PGT2_turbo> i got the ubuntu live cd to boot in vmware but how do i install ubuntu
[04:15] <SperMite> I have a question! Where do you all go to learn linux commands?
[04:15] <Pelo> PGT2_turbo,  there should be an INSTALL icon on the desktop
[04:16] <Somniis>  learn by doing :)
[04:16] <ale[x] > anyone installing ubuntu using a pxeboot/locally?
[04:16] <jml> SperMite: well, there's this club, but the first rule is that we don't talk about it
[04:16] <Pelo> SperMite, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[04:16] <PGT2_turbo> pelo yeah i see it
[04:16] <conreyt> where can i get some cool skydomes for compiz?
[04:16] <bruenig> !xgl
[04:16] <PGT2_turbo> but in vmware i click on it my mouse dissappers unless i push ctrl+ alt to back to windows
[04:16] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:17] <SperMite> jml hmm. everybody seems to know about this club =P
[04:17] <jml> SperMite: yeah :(
[04:17] <SperMite> eh, oh well
[04:18] <Somniis>  Rule#1...
[04:18] <Pelo> SperMite, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[04:18] <skizzay> ATI x1300 driver problems.  Could anyone shine some light?
[04:18] <jml> Somniis: 'we do not talk about bash club'?
[04:18] <Somniis>  you just broke the rule :P
[04:18] <jml> oops.
[04:18] <SperMite> Thanks Pelo =)
[04:18] <dr34mc0d3r>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY fractalfractal
[04:18] <bruenig> lol
[04:18] <Pelo> SperMite,  donT' mention it , ever
[04:18] <bruenig> dr34mc0d3r, better pick another one
[04:18] <jml> ok, I guess I'll fall back to on-topic.
[04:19] <Daehlie> someone needs their password changes
[04:19] <jml> so, I'm still trying to get wifi working
[04:19] <dr34mc0d3r> oops.....
[04:19] <PGT2_turbo> so can anyone who has vmware help me
[04:19] <Somniis>  i agree with Dae!
[04:19] <jml> here's a forum post with some info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773683
[04:19] <conreyt> PGT2_turbo: what do you need?
[04:19] <PGT2_turbo> how do i install ubuntu with vmware
[04:19] <PGT2_turbo> i have to live cd booted
[04:19] <jml> I honestly can't proceed any further without help.
[04:19] <PGT2_turbo> i seee install but i cant click it
[04:20] <Kingsqueak> teledyn: thx, I'd never used that font before, it's nice
[04:20] <LinuxRush> sethk, ok. i found "Power Management Preferences" from "system --> preferences -->" menu and it has three tabs. "Running on AC" "Running on Battery" and "General" and none of the options lead me to belive that they are the culprit. what to do?
[04:20] <omega21> hi there, im trying to get wireless working on a friend's Presario V2000. It supposedly works fine from the wiki. the issue is that it internet doesn't work. Im on another laptop on the same network here.
[04:20] <LinuxRush> it's basic questions as: when lid is closed.... and the answer is the same for both
[04:21] <Somniis>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY markup101
[04:21] <PGT2_turbo> hello
[04:21] <e3> Tonight I'm going to totally format my ubuntu partition...anyone willing to hold my hand through a bit of that.....
[04:21] <Maurox> ???
[04:21] <PGT2_turbo> conreyt
[04:21] <Pelo> e3 just back up your home folder and have at it
[04:21] <Maurox> Somniis: nice password :P
[04:21] <Madpilot> Somniis, time for a new freenode password :)
[04:21] <bruenig> e3, how hard should it be. Manually edit the partition table. delete it remake it and then install
[04:21] <psusi> lifepositive: if your key is stored on the computer and they get ahold of it, given enough time they can crack the password.... the more complex your password, the longer it will take
[04:21] <omega21> anyone?
[04:22] <Somniis>  not my fault. :P this client is not recognizing the /msg command for some reason
[04:22] <Somniis>  but ty
[04:22] <cfedde> leading space
[04:22] <Somniis>  i had no leading space
[04:22] <cfedde> cool!
[04:22] <TiG4> *** how do i extract an archive with a password? Whenever I try opening it in archive manager I get an error saying incorrect password and cant even extract it?
[04:22] <LjL> that's why messages to nickserv should always be typed in the status window :)
[04:23] <lifepositive> psusi: my PGP password is 18 cjaracters
[04:23] <psusi> lifepositive: with a decently complex password though, it would likely take someone months or years to crack it... a simple password could be cracked in minutes though
[04:23] <omega21> like, it seems to connect, then it deactivates.
[04:23] <Pelo> TiG4,  do you have the password ?
[04:23] <TiG4> pelo yes
[04:23] <psusi> lifepositive: letters, numbers, and symbols?
[04:23] <lifepositive> psusi: both! spaces too
[04:23] <keegan_> Hello Everyone, I am using Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft.  I am trying to watch a movie on the internet using Firefox + Mplayer.  The format of the movie its streaming is .mov which I believe I need the quicktime codec which I have,  I also have the win32codecs.  My problem is when it finished loading it just stops and won't play it.  Does anyone have a fix for this problem?
[04:23] <Pelo> TiG4,  instead of extracting the file open it with the archive manager and look in the options for where to put the password
[04:23] <TiG4> i cant
[04:24] <TiG4> it wont open
[04:24] <TiG4> says incorrect password
[04:24] <Somniis>  keegan_: yes, don't use quicktime :)
[04:24] <Somniis>  lol if you can
[04:24] <PGT2_turbo> do any of you have vmware?
[04:24] <Pelo> TiG4,   caps ?
[04:24] <keegan_> How am I suppose to watch it then?
[04:24] <TiG4> nm pelo
[04:24] <lifepositive> psusi: how long would breaking a 2048 key with an 18 character password take?
[04:24] <omega21> can someone please help me? i really need internet on this notebook
[04:24] <psusi> lifepositive: then I'd say you are prety damn safe
[04:24] <psusi> lifepositive: key length is meaningles if they have your certificate
[04:25] <Pelo> g'night folks
[04:25] <psusi> lifepositive: given the key file the only thing they have to break is your password
[04:25] <lifepositive> psusi: whats my cretificate?
[04:25] <workbean> guys, is it normal for the "menubar" font of firefox to look different from the other apps?
[04:25] <psusi> lifepositive: but even 18 characters of letters, numbers, and other symbols, that's prety damn safe
[04:25] <omega21> workbean: yes.
[04:25] <psusi> lifepositive: the file that contains your private/public keypair
[04:25] <omega21> workbean: its a gtk application
[04:25] <LinuxRush> omega21, did you search for the drivers? i have the same problem and I searched the ubuntu forums and found a good walk through for enabling the wireless internet access
[04:25] <psusi> lifepositive: aka 'keyring'
[04:25] <workbean> omega21: so nautilus isn't?
[04:26] <conreyt> PGT2_turbo: what's up
[04:26] <workbean> or are you talking about the different versions of GTK?
[04:26] <coolsax98> my install keeps freezing during install, I've tried manually partitioning the drives and that gets it to about 82% before it freezes
[04:26] <omega21> linuxrush: could you link me?
[04:26] <LjL> lifepositive, you should be more worried about side attacks - like your machine being trojaned and the passphrase sniffed. 18 characters in a strong passphrase, itself, should be good. although you shouldn't have told us it's 18 chars, that's an important information to start with
[04:26] <LinuxRush> k
[04:26] <LinuxRush> holdup
[04:26] <omega21> linuxrush: i thought it wold work out of the box
[04:26] <lifepositive> psusi: ah ok!  so if they got the secret keyring, they can break password easier?
[04:26] <omega21> linuxrush: thanks!! :)
[04:27] <Somniis>  the key is everything
[04:27] <coolsax98> any ideas?
[04:27] <lifepositive> LjL: its not 18 characters ;)  its more I counted ;)
[04:27] <LjL> lifepositive, if they don't get to the secret keyring, your password is useless (and they can't break it since they can't check it against something)
[04:27] <lifepositive> LjL: how can I check for trojans?
[04:27] <_allz> please help .i have installd many stuff codecs but i cant play anything .yeah i can play movies in my computer but nothing on a website !!!
[04:27] <_allz> what could be wrong
[04:27] <psusi> lifepositive: the password protects the keyring... without the keyring, it is virtually impossible to decrypt your file
[04:27] <lifepositive> LjL: how can I check for trojans that can side attack my sys?
[04:28] <Kingsqueak> _allz: got the mozilla-mplayer plugin installed?
[04:28] <LjL> lifepositive, you stay up with security updates, avoid running untrusted executables (like stuff not from the repos), and perhaps periodically check with programs like rkhunter or chkrootkit
[04:28] <lifepositive> psusi: ok!  but that means I must enrypt the keyring
[04:28] <Somniis>  _allz: does the website require flash?
[04:28] <workbean> I must say, firefox 2.0 is much snappier than previous versions
[04:28] <keegan_> Could someone help me with a mplayer plugin problem
[04:28] <keegan_> please
[04:28] <ivx> what would the easiest way to use a printer connected to another computer connected to my router be?
[04:28] <lifepositive> LjL: ok thanks
[04:28] <LinuxRush> omega21, : ya.. life would be great if Everything worked out of the box... but the reality is, the GIANT in computer op. sys is MS ;( therefore, the majorly all companies develop drivers for it and very few develop it for other OS's. the rest of the work is done by the great people of the linux community
[04:28] <lifepositive> LjL: every day I type sudp apt-get update and upgrade
[04:28] <_allz> somniis no
[04:28] <Kingsqueak> ivx: what OS is on the computer where the printer is attached?
[04:28] <lifepositive> LjL: and i run rootkithunter
[04:28] <omega21> linuxrush: i know, but the laptoptestingteam wiki page just said it "works"
[04:29] <psusi> lifepositive: it is encrypted... that's what the password is for
[04:29] <ivx> kingsqueak ubuntu on both.
[04:29] <jvai> keegan: try this..
[04:29] <_allz> kingsqueak yeah i just installd mozilla mplayer should it work now?
[04:29] <Kingsqueak> ivx: setup cups to allow sharing on the network, on the machine with the printer, setup cups for a 'network printer' using 'ipp' as the type on the other one, should be good to go
[04:29] <psusi> lifepositive: your public/private keypair is used to encrypt a random key... the random key is used to encrypt your file.... your password is used to encrypt your private key
[04:30] <keegan_> jvai: try what?
[04:30] <Kingsqueak> _allz: if you put in 'about:plugins' does it show up, in the URL box
[04:30] <jvai> in firefox.. go to tools-page info, then try to save the movie to harddrive.. then point it to mplayer
[04:30] <ivx> kingsqueak all try to swing that if not i'll try to hit you up will you be here for a while
[04:30] <lifepositive> psusi: ok
[04:30] <Kingsqueak> ivx: sure, if not, others should be able to help
[04:31] <psusi> lifepositive: so to decrypt the file you need the random key.. only way to decrypt the random key is with your private 2048 bit key ( the random key is much shorter ), and the only way you can decrypt the private key stored in your keyring file is with your password, make sense?
[04:31] <keegan_> jvai: Thats how I am going to have to do it everytime?
[04:31] <lifepositive> psusi: are you a secruity expert?
[04:31] <lifepositive> psusi: makes sense after I read it 3 times :)
[04:31] <lifepositive> psusi: hehe ;)
[04:31] <jvai> well. maybe for the 1's that wont play
[04:31] <_allz> kingsqueak what do you mean :S
[04:31] <psusi> lifepositive: not sure what makes someone an 'expert' but I an quite knowlegable
[04:31] <lifepositive> psusi: i can tell :)
[04:31] <jvai> it's a shot in the dark keegan
[04:31] <_allz> kingsqueak okei i am gonna tell you the secret :S i am trying to play porn movie on the website
[04:31] <Kingsqueak> _allz: in the browser, enter in 'about:config' as a URL, no http, nothing else
[04:31] <_allz> i am bad boy :S
[04:32] <Kingsqueak> _allz: see if it shows mplayer plugin listed
[04:32] <Kingsqueak> and if you get it working stileproject works just fine with it ;-)
[04:32] <bruenig> kingrayray, about:plugins
[04:32] <bruenig> Kingsqueak, about:plugins
[04:32] <Kingsqueak> bruenig: doh, thnx
[04:32] <Kingsqueak> _allz: about:plugins   not config
[04:32] <bruenig> stupid tab completion
[04:32] <kingrayray> lol
[04:33] <kingrayray> too many kings :)
[04:33] <_allz> kingsqueak what do you mean like this about:plugins/www.blalvlabla.com?
[04:33] <ivx> kingsqueak, i went into the properties for the printer, and went to the connection tab and selected network printer for the type. what goes into the URL box? The ip of that computer from dhcp?
[04:33] <Kingsqueak> _allz: just 'about:plugins'
[04:33] <aj__> ok something broke wireless with edgy
[04:34] <aj__> some update
[04:34] <Kingsqueak> _allz: nothing else
[04:34] <aj__> anyone else seeing this?
[04:34] <bruenig> aj__, what was the update
[04:34] <aj__> i'm thinking either xorg or nvidia
[04:34] <keegan_> jvai: I get "Error opening/initializing the slected video_out (-vo) device"
[04:34] <aj__> i saw someone mention this on the forums
[04:34] <kingrayray> xorg or nvidia wouldn't break wireless would it? O.o
[04:34] <aj__> you wouldn't think so
[04:34] <kingrayray> like, does that even make sense
[04:34] <bruenig> odd none of those have anything to do with networking
[04:34] <aj__> but thats the only update i've had
[04:34] <Kingsqueak> nvidia can if you remove restricted-modules in the process
[04:35] <Kingsqueak> you need to blacklist modules rather than remove all the restricted-modules package
[04:35] <aj__> well i had an update kernel recently from updates i think
[04:35] <lifepositive> Kingsqueak: hey hey
[04:35] <bruenig> aj__, correlation is not = to causation
[04:35] <_allz> kingsqueak okei i dont see .S this player that i installd there
[04:35] <Kingsqueak> _allz: do you see at least some plugins?
[04:35] <_allz> yeah
[04:35] <aj__> i'm not sure what broke exactly but something changed all of a sudden
[04:36] <_allz> i see applicatioon/x-mplayer2
[04:36] <_allz> is it installd?
[04:36] <Kingsqueak> _allz: you will see a bunch of entries mentioning it if it is installed
[04:36] <aj__> but i was using the bcm43xx module and even tried the ndiswrapper and they both do the same thing
[04:37] <_allz> i see many stuff
[04:37] <_allz> kingsqueak in there
[04:37] <aj__> basically linux finds my device but i can't set it to a essid or anything and it can't find any essid's by scanning
[04:37] <jamesbrink> is there a quick howto on compiling a new kernel in ubuntu
[04:37] <_allz> kingsqueak you want screen shoot?
[04:38] <Kingsqueak> _allz: that would be good yeah
[04:38] <LinuxRush> omega: i gonna go login into my windows, and get the bookmark. apparently, i cannot find it on the forums
[04:38] <LinuxRush> eh
[04:38] <ivx> can anyone tell me what to put in the text box that says url when i go to the printer properties, select connection, and change type to network printer?
[04:38] <LinuxRush> thanks all for the help ;) be back in a few mins.
[04:38] <ivx> do i make something up or what?
[04:38] <JoshJ> the printer's IP address i'd assume
[04:38] <jamesbrink> lol
[04:38] <jamesbrink> yeah
[04:39] <ivx> yeah it doesn't have one it is connected to the computer
[04:39] <jamesbrink> you can make one up if you want
[04:39] <Harry> how do i install ubuntu in vmware
[04:39] <Harry> ?
[04:39] <Harry> i need help bad
[04:39] <Daehlie> Harry: i would suggest using the install disc
[04:39] <sethk> ivx, you mean for the name?  you can use any name, yes
[04:39] <sethk> Harry, badly
[04:39] <ivx> jamesbrink do you know how to do printer sharring with cups, that is basically what i need
[04:39] <Harry> i ahve th einstall disc
[04:40] <Harry> okay i get th elive cd to boot in vmware
[04:40] <ivx> sethk then i just use that name on the other somputer and it will find it?
[04:40] <Harry> but then my mouse idsappears once i lcik somehting in ubuntu
[04:40] <Harry> disappears*
[04:40] <sethk> ivx, I'm not sure I know where you are.  for scanning you don't need to put anything
[04:40] <Harry> click*
[04:40] <Daehlie> Harry: use the alternate cd, it will allow a more standard text install that will be more vmware friendly i think
[04:40] <_allz> kingsqueak what is the site agein to post image
[04:40] <_allz> !image
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <sethk> ivx, are you trying to get to a printer attached to a windows box?
[04:41] <ivx> sethk no another ubuntu box
[04:41] <Daehlie> look on the ubuntu website for the alternate install image, it should be after the desktop and server images
[04:41] <sethk> ivx, then just edit your cups client configuration and put the server ip in it
[04:41] <NChief> which port does remote desktop run on?
[04:42] <eegore> exit
[04:42] <_allz> kingsqueak what is the site agein to post image
[04:42] <rickyfingers> If I want LAMP on ubuntu desktop, will everything just work if i install mysql, apache with synaptic, or do I actually have to do some reading.
[04:42] <_allz> !post iamges