[07:34] <ciphersson> if i ran: "apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server" to get my 32bit ubuntu install to recognize my 14gb of ram rather than just 4gb... should i grab the VMware Player Linux 32-bit .bundle or the 64bit .bundle?
[07:35] <atomicfusion> ciphersson: 32bit if ur using 32bit linux, which i assume u are,o therwise you wouldnt need the server kernel
[07:35] <atomicfusion> ubuntunoobie2903: i dont regonize any of those, have you looked them up on the winehq appdb?
[07:36] <ciphersson> atomicfusion: yea i installed a 32bit version then ran "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server"
[07:37] <atomicfusion> ciphersson: yes, then you want 32bit binaries
[07:37] <ciphersson> thank you sir :-D
[07:38] <Bursihido> i want to install weehchat 0.3.5-1  but it syaing me Dependency is not satisfiable: weechat-curses (>= 0.3.5-1) ??
[07:39] <atomicfusion> Bursihido: usually when that happens for me, i search for a deb of the package on google
[07:40] <curiousx> Bursihido: Irssi is a very good client for IRC ass well
[07:40] <ubuntunoobie2903> atomicfusion: Dasher has a garbage review, Junior isn't reviewed, an older version of stata gets gold
[07:40] <atomicfusion> Bursihido: try getting and installing this http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/weechat-curses
[07:41] <ubuntunoobie2903> atomicfusion: but with stata for example it's perfect, the text is there in the menu system, and everything works, except if you open a code window you can't see the text.
[07:41] <atomicfusion> ubuntunoobie2903: with things in wine, it tends to be mostly luck. if there are tips in the appdb, go for it, otherwise, i cant be much help
[07:42] <atomicfusion> curiousx: pidgin is also a nice irc client :)
[07:42] <Bursihido> atomicfusion: Can i have link for deb package?
[07:42] <ubuntunoobie2903> atomicfusion: thanks anyways
[07:42] <aatish> hi everyone. i am running ubuntu 10.10 64bit. i am having problems with connecting my bluetooth headset. i installed blueman. it successfully detected my headset but not able to pair. i tried this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsBluetoothUsbAdapters and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset.i succeeded pairing the headset with ubuntu once. but when i tried reconne
[07:42] <aatish> cting the next day i couldnt. the program works at random but fails more often. can someone help me or guide me. am using a bluetooth headset sony dr-bt50 and the manufacturer of the bluetooth adapter is cambridge silicon. thanks in advance
[07:42] <curiousx> Yeah!! atomicfusion, i used pidgin in a ncurses inerfase as well xD
[07:43] <atomicfusion> Bursihido: for 32bit http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/universe/w/weechat/weechat-curses_0.3.5-1_i386.deb
[07:44] <atomicfusion> aatish: does it work with another os?
[07:44] <mkquist> anyone have experience with booting fedora and ubuntu?  Does Fedora not 'play nice' with ubuntu?  As in I can install Win7 Ubuntu and Ubuntu sees Win7, but when I install Fedora, it doesnt 'see' Ubuntu...
[07:44] <atomicfusion> curiousx: ive never been one to give up the comforts (and frustrations) of a full gui
[07:44] <aatish> atomicfusion: i have only ubuntu installed on my computer.
[07:45] <atomicfusion> aatish: is trhere something else that you could test it on to make sure that its not a hardware issue?
[07:46] <atomicfusion> mkquist: it's definatly doable, how much experience do you have with linux?
[07:46] <curiousx> mkquist: first install winbug then others Linux's distros
[07:46] <aries> hi, everyone.
[07:46] <aatish> atomicfusion: ok. will try something
[07:47] <aries> Now, I use fedora.
[07:47] <aries> I do not like unity.
[07:47] <aries> gnome3 looks great.
[07:48] <mkquist> atomicfusion: been using ubuntu for quite some time, just tried to install fedora and it didnt 'see' ubuntu.  Reinstalled ubuntu and it saw all of the others just fine.  Just curious if Fedora is a bit predatory...
[07:48] <atomicfusion> aries: my favorite is headless gentoo :)
[07:48] <coz_> aries,  you have to remember that gnome 3 has had much more coding time than Unity,,,
[07:48] <coz_> aries,  give it time
[07:49] <aries> coz, so I will wait .
[07:49] <atomicfusion> mkquist: fedora and ubuntu ought to work togeather in the exact same way (as in, they dont interact) the fedora installer probably just doesnt have ubuntu detection in it
[07:49] <baijiu> how to select kde desktop
[07:50] <atomicfusion> baijiu: is it installed? did u install ubuntu?
[07:50] <aries> First you should install
[07:50] <coz_> baijiu,  log off and click your name then below  choose kde session  and as mentioned it has to be installed
[07:50] <coz_> baijiu,   if you didnt install it   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:50] <baijiu> ok
[07:50] <aries> kde now is a little big and heavy.
[07:51] <baijiu> its like windows 7 right?
[07:51] <aries> a little.
[07:51] <curiousx> much better
[07:52] <Eartaker> whats up with not being able to run at root user in the ubuntu 11.04
[07:52] <augustine> what do you mean?
[07:52] <aries> passwd it
[07:52] <aatish> atomicfusion: i tried the bluetooth adapter on my neighbour's win xp machine and it successfully connected to my headset
[07:52] <sweat> baijiu: update-alternatives --configure x-window-manager or x-session-manager, also i guess update-rc.d kde defaults might do it
[07:52] <Eartaker> aries there is already a password and it isnt the one I set
[07:53] <sweat> *--config
[07:53] <Eartaker> I cant get into root to change tha pass
[07:53] <Eartaker> the
[07:53] <aries> su root
[07:53] <Eartaker> http://www.eartaker.net/pics/displayimage.php?album=4&pid=66#top_display_media
[07:53] <Eartaker> oops
[07:53] <Eartaker> su root
[07:53] <Eartaker> asks for pass
[07:53] <FloodBot1> Eartaker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:54] <Eartaker> no idea what the pass it
[07:54] <nightrid3r> Eartaker there is no root pass
[07:54] <atomicfusion> aatish: is the bluetooth daemon running?
[07:54] <aries> su root , and input the password.
[07:54] <coz_> Eartaker,  use  sudo -i  and your user password
[07:54] <aries> passwd root
[07:54] <aries> set a password
[07:55] <aries> First you should be a admin user.
[07:55] <Eartaker> I am the admin user... but
[07:55] <atomicfusion> Eartaker: not that i mean to be condescending, but do u really need to login as root? usually there are better ways
[07:55] <Eartaker> when I type su root, it ASKS for a password and then says auth failed
[07:55] <aatish> atomicfusion: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth status says that bluetooth is running
[07:55] <aries> your password is wrong.
[07:55] <tsimpson> Eartaker: don't use "su root", use "sudo -i"
[07:56] <sweat> Eartaker: you have to do sudo passwd
[07:56] <Eartaker> sudo -i works
[07:56] <Eartaker> just tried
[07:57] <sweat> Eartaker: that will set the substitute user password for root but to change to root you don't need to specifity su root just su will do
[07:57] <Chipzzz> sudo -i is what the  developers recommend
[07:57] <atomicfusion> aatish: i dont know anything about bluetooth, maybe it prints to the syslog? you can view it with dmesg
[07:58] <apporc> hello,everyone
[07:58] <Bursihido> atomicfusion:  http://www.pastie.org/2191078 ?
[07:58] <aries> hello apporc
[07:59] <baijiu> is opensuse similar to ubuntu
[07:59] <Eartaker> atomicfusion, your right .... as of now I do not need to but in the future I will and it was just driving me nuts
[07:59] <atomicfusion> Bursihido: just search for the unfufileld dependency "weechat-core"
[07:59] <Eartaker> Thanks guys for the quick replies
[07:59] <Bursihido> ok
[08:00] <aatish> atomicfusion: dmsg says that hci_cmd_task: hci0 command tx timeout. i once succeeded pairing the headset and successfully transmitted audio to the headset. but i cant anymore. dnt know y.
[08:00] <atomicfusion> Bursihido: here: http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/universe/w/weechat/weechat-core_0.3.5-1_i386.deb
[08:00] <apporc> I am changing my lvm configuration. There are something wrong i think .
[08:01] <apporc> I want to remove some physical volume from a group , so i need to pvmove it at first .
[08:01] <PAM> hey
[08:01] <PAM> guys
[08:01] <Bursihido> Thank you atomicfusion. :)
[08:01] <eeriks> Is there a idea to put many processors i one computer to make it speed up or is that problematic? (thinking of taking the old processor from one computer and put it into another one that allready have one to make the total workforce more effective)
[08:01] <apporc> I pvmove a 20G PV to a 60G pv ,after the move ,the 60G pv is full .
[08:02] <apporc> what is the reason
[08:03] <atomicfusion> eeriks: most motherboards dont support multipel cpus
[08:03] <airtonix> if we choose to encrypt a home folder, how do we return an un-ecrypted home folder setup?
[08:03] <eeriks> oh, ok
[08:03] <aries> just buy a great cpu.
[08:03] <atomicfusion> apporc: what does vgdispplay say?
[08:03] <Chipzzz> eeriks: that's the theory behind multi-core processors
[08:03] <majdekalel> is there any router simulation software for ubuntu ??
[08:04] <apporc> atomicfusion: the PE size of a 20GB pv is the same as 60GB pv's
[08:04] <airtonix> majdekalel: yes, cisco have made some as well
[08:04] <majdekalel> is it free ?
[08:04] <majdekalel> or i have to use cracked copy ???
[08:04] <eeriks> Chipzzz How do you mean?
[08:04] <apporc> atomicfusion: when i pvmove a 20GB to a 60GB pv ,all PE is used then , nothing is free . I don't know how to solve this.
[08:05] <atomicfusion> apporc: unless theyres something else on the 60GiB pc, the only thing that i can think of is human error, as that would be a huge bug
[08:05] <Chipzzz> eeriks: a multi-core processor is a lot like having more than one processor in the system
[08:05] <atomicfusion> apporc: which is why i was thinking that you could show me vgdisplay, lvdisplay, and pvdisplay
[08:05] <airtonix> majdekalel:  http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/netacad/course_catalog/PacketTracer.html
[08:06] <apporc> atomicfusion: where should i upload the vgdisplay  output
[08:06] <majdekalel> i know this software
[08:06] <airtonix> majdekalel: "The software is available free of charge to all Networking Academy instructors, students, and alumni."
[08:06] <atomicfusion> apporc: pastebin.com should work
[08:06] <baijiu> my ubuntu live cd says x86_64 is that i686 or 64 bit?
[08:06] <atomicfusion> 64bit
[08:06] <eeriks> ok, so why does they work for the motherboard and not to put in two processors next to each other?
[08:06] <baijiu> i386 rather
[08:07] <atomicfusion> eeriks: usually theres only one cpu socket
[08:07] <tsimpson> baijiu: x86_64 is 64bit
[08:07] <eeriks> ok
[08:07] <baijiu> thx
[08:07] <atomicfusion> eeriks: im talking about in a physical sense
[08:08] <PAM> ????
[08:08] <eeriks> as you can see in my comments im not that educated in this subject.
[08:08] <Chipzzz> eeriks: if the mobo supports multiple cpu's there is no problem using them
[08:08] <Chipzzz> few do though
[08:08] <eeriks> nice
[08:09] <eeriks> i just have to lift the box and look, then :)
[08:10] <Chipzzz> eeriks: the few mobo's that do support dual cpu's generally only support two of the same type, though
[08:10] <eeriks> ok
[08:12] <apporc> atomicfusion: http://pastebin.com/6qWx98Rs
[08:14] <MestreLion> Hi there! This is not exactly "ubuntu-only", but... is there any way to make zenity create a drop-down list? like a non-editable combo box?
[08:14] <apporc> atomicfusion: do you get it? thank you for your response.
[08:16] <atomicfusion> apporc: yes, could u upload a little more? can u give the output of "pvdisplay" "vgdisplay" and lvdisplay" with no arguments?
[08:17] <apporc> atomicfusion: ok ,wait a minute please.
[08:19] <apporc> atomicfusion: http://pastebin.com/8eBbaUhh
[08:21] <pozic> I got [fglrx] ASIC hang happened
[08:21] <atomicfusion> apporc: so which is the one that you moved?
[08:22] <pozic> Does that mean the hardware itself hung?
[08:22] <apporc> atomicfusion: i have moved /dev/sda5 to /dev/sda8
[08:22] <pozic> Or just that some driver told it to go on and on and on.
[08:22] <rurufufuss> how do you pop up that software update windows that periodically appears?
[08:22] <Starminn> My SoundMenu disappeared. Advice on where to start looking?
[08:22] <rurufufuss> got it, update manager
[08:22] <apporc> atomicfusion: sda5 ,sda6 ,sda7 is 20G each . sda8 is 60G ,i want to move this three to sda8 ,and pvreduce sda5,sda6,sda7.
[08:23] <jacky121> how do i do a proper end an application or script in the terminal? i use Ctrl+Z but someone said that's like undo and should not be used to stop something correct
[08:23] <jacky121> of an*
[08:23] <Starminn> jacky121: CTRL-C ends a script
[08:24] <jacky121> and a program like lynx etc Starminn ?
[08:24] <atomicfusion> apporc: and what reports being full now?
[08:25] <apporc> atomicfusion: it said sda8 is full.
[08:25] <Starminn> jacky121: Identify the program, and either "killall <programname>" or kill it by the process ID
[08:25] <apporc> atomicfusion: root@apporc-ubuntu:~# pvmove /dev/sda6 /dev/sda8
[08:25] <apporc>   Insufficient free space: 320 extents needed, but only 48 available
[08:25] <apporc>   Unable to allocate mirror extents for pvmove0.
[08:25] <apporc>   Failed to convert pvmove LV to mirrored
[08:26] <jacky121> ok thanks
[08:27] <atomicfusion> apporc: well it sdays that sda8 is only 20GiB here...
[08:28] <apporc> atomicfusion: .... i will check it now .
[08:28] <apporc> atomicfusion: /dev/sda5            3857        6468    20980858+  8e  Linux LVM
[08:28] <apporc> /dev/sda6            6469        9080    20980858+  8e  Linux LVM
[08:28] <apporc> /dev/sda7            9081       11692    20980858+  8e  Linux LVM
[08:29] <apporc> /dev/sda8           11693       19527    62934292+  8e  Linux LVM
[08:29] <apporc> atomicfusion: what wrong with sda8 , fdisk says it is 60G
[08:30] <atomicfusion> apporc: howabout sudo pvresize /dev/sda8
[08:30] <atomicfusion> apporc: on what you put on pastebin, it says that sda8 is 20GiB
[08:31] <apporc> atomicfusion: i used pvcreate with default arguments to create physical volume sda8 . Should i use some additional arguments for that ?
[08:32] <atomicfusion> apporc: no, the only arguments that you can give pvresize is a new size, but it should autodetect the partition size
[08:32] <apporc> atomicfusion: yeah, PV Size is 20GB .
[08:32] <atomicfusion> apporc: does it let you extend it to 60?
[08:33] <ilangeeran> how to get themes for ubuntu 11.04?
[08:33] <apporc> atomicfusion: yes, the resize succeeded .
[08:33] <atomicfusion> now does your previous command work?
[08:34] <apporc> atomicfusion: yes. it works now .
[08:34] <atomicfusion> apporc: awesome, have a nice night
[08:34] <apporc> atomicfusion: thank you . but what is the reason .
[08:34] <atomicfusion> did u resize /dev/sda8?
[08:35] <sharkz> Hi - can some one help me out with how to connect my router through usb - and use that for internet ?
[08:35] <apporc> atomicfusion: is that because when i pvcreate sda8 , i don't give it additional arguments.
[08:35] <atomicfusion> apporc: it shouldnt be
[08:35] <apporc> atomicfusion: sda8 is 60GB ,why the command "pvcreate /dev/sda8" makes it 20GB?
[08:35] <ilangeeran> sharkz:for that you need to configure that
[08:36] <atomicfusion> apporc: the only reasons taht i could see is if you resized /def/sda8, or u gave pvcreate special options
[08:36] <nightrid3r> sharkz you can setup your usb modem with network manager
[08:37] <apporc> atomicfusion: i remembered a change now, when i first pvcreate PV sda8 ,the PE Size of the vg system is 32MB , I have just changed that to 64MB yet when i found i can't pvmove .
[08:38] <apporc> atomicfusion: the size of the pv is determined by the PE Size of vg , is that right ?
[08:38] <atomicfusion> apporc: i dont know. i never bothered to learn much about the underlying mechanisms of lvm
[08:38] <atomicfusion> good night everyone
[08:39] <apporc> atomicfusion: thank you very much then .have a good night
[08:39] <Ozik> hi there, a little help needed with WoL: I configured WoL and it worked but, tonight I send via ssh halt, now I can't turn it on. Also: I have Linksys WRT54G2 with ip reservation for 166hrs, ports 7-9 forwarded to ip and ubuntu disappeared from dhcp table
[08:39] <Ozik> there wasn't power failure
[08:40] <atomicfusion> Ozik: did u unplug it and plug it back in after halting?
[08:41] <Ozik> nobody did nothing, also it is a remote location
[08:41] <atomicfusion> i know i somewhat paniched after halting my linksys router, and i had to disconenct and reconnect its power
[08:41] <JNZ> Why is sys/event.h missing? :/
[08:41] <Ozik> I've halted ubuntu server 10.04, not router
[08:42] <atomicfusion> oh i see sorry
[08:42] <Ozik> I did halt and then I could WoL it, I've finished working then halt, and now I can't WoL
[08:42] <sharkz> ilangeeran, nightrid3r - sorry, cant find any option to choose usb device
[08:43] <sharkz> in nm-applet
[08:43] <ilangeeran> ok you can try wvdial
[08:43] <Ozik> WRT54G2 doesn't have reservation ip<->MAC but I can reserve it for max 9999 minutes
[08:43] <ilangeeran> sharkz:you can try wvdial
[08:44] <Ozik> server had .0.100
[08:44] <Ozik> it has gone, but other offline devices are still there from 101-104
[08:45] <timClicks> I need to apply this patch the driver for my wireless chip to work (http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-closed@lists.debian.org/msg327720.html), how do I do that?
[08:48] <JNZ> sys/event.h anyone? Nobody knows why it's missing? :/
[08:50] <pozic> JNZ: that is the wrong approach.
[08:50] <pozic> JNZ: explain why you think you should have it?
[08:50] <soulis77-SE> how can i see which users are defined with ssh command? I may be missing www-data or some settings for that user
[08:52] <JNZ> pozic: Explain why I shouldn't have it!
[08:54] <pozic> JNZ: a computer is a device containing bits of information. If you didn't put the file there, it is not going to be there.
[08:55] <pozic> JNZ: so, if you say you never put it there, there should be no surprise as to it not being there.
[08:55] <tsimpson> pozic: they left
[08:57] <absence> is there a guide for mounting a software raid-1 array created in windows?
[08:57] <spoofy> anybody tell me why I am getting invalid vpn secrets using openvpn?
[08:58] <Lasers_> Hi. I wanted to ask something about ssh keys. Do one usually have exact same ssh-key on all machines or unique generated ssh-key for each machine?
[08:58] <Lasers_> (Ie -- I have 3~ machines. Should I have all same ssh-keygen all over them or I just create unique keys for them?)
[09:01] <tsimpson> Lasers_: each machine should (normally) have different keys
[09:01] <MestreLion> Lasers: depends on whether you want to connect FROM or TO them
[09:02] <Lasers_> tsimpson: Okay. Thank you. I wanted to make sure. Also, how do you manage to keep them arranged? (I never can backup anything properly). :(
[09:02] <tsimpson> just keep /etc/ssh backed up
[09:03] <MestreLion> machines you want to connect FROM dont even have to have ANY generated key at all ;)
[09:03] <tdk200> hi all
[09:03] <Lasers_> tsimpson: Noted. Ty.
[09:03] <MestreLion> just the pub keys from the machines you want to connect TO
[09:03] <Ozik> bumping my Q up: I need help with WoL. I confugured it and it worked fine. Even at night I could halt and then wake. Now I can't. Server is behind Linksys WRT54G2, ip reserved for 166hrs (but it disappeared from DHCP table, other offline devices didn't) ports 7-9forwarded
[09:03] <MestreLion> tsimpson: you mean ~/.ssh
[09:03] <tsimpson> the keys shouldn't normally change, so you only need to back them up once
[09:03] <tsimpson> MestreLion: nope
[09:04] <tdk200> I'm from italy but on the chat ubuntu-it i don't have find a help
[09:04] <tsimpson> I meant /etc/ssh, so that's what I said :)
[09:04] <MestreLion> doesnt that require sudo?
[09:05] <tdk200> i have a problem whit wi-fi wireless card Alfa Awuso36h the chip is realtek rtl8187
[09:05] <tsimpson> MestreLion: I didn't give a command, so not sure what sudo would apply to
[09:05] <tdk200> the problem is whit ubuntu 11.04
[09:06] <MestreLion> tsimpson: lets say i want to use my SSH key to connect to another computer without havint to use a password (thats the whole point of using SSH keys, right?)
[09:06] <ubrocks> Does anyone know where to find the launchctl command?
[09:06] <tdk200> can help me here?
[09:06] <soreau> ! realtek | tdk200
[09:06] <tsimpson> MestreLion: that wasn't the question
[09:07] <MestreLion> tsimpson: so... do i need to somehow place my public key in /etc ? shouldnt i be able to do so whithout root priviledge?
[09:07] <tsimpson> MestreLion: each server running sshd has a key, that's the key I'm talking about
[09:07] <MestreLion> ohhhhhh
[09:08] <ubrocks> There is a service using launchctl but I can't find the command on Ubuntu. Anyone knows where I can find it?
[09:08] <tdk200> i have installed from cd a driver for this card, where i can find a guide for uninstall it?
[09:08] <MestreLion> tsimpson: i thought Lasers_ was talking about *user* ssh keys
[09:09] <MestreLion> im so sorry then
[09:10] <MestreLion> ubrocks: launchctl is from Mac's OSX, not Ubuntu
[09:10] <liangjs> nihao
[09:11] <ubrocks> MestreLion, whoops, thanks.
[09:12] <erle-> how can i hibernate from the command line? (ubuntu 11.04)
[09:13] <pozic> erle-: yes, google knows that.
[09:13] <PartRecover> I accidentally placed a partition over another one...i need to restore the old one....any ideas???
[09:14] <Adamfyre> PartRecover, have you tried using gparted?
[09:14] <PartRecover> i tried using testdisk...but i only find the current partition...not the old one.
[09:15] <Ozik> pozic: and google knows maybe how to solve my WoL problem? :)
[09:15] <PartRecover> im running a deeper search on testdisk now...:S
[09:15] <pozic> Ozik: I read it, but I have no idea on that one.
[09:15] <Adamfyre> PartRecover, you overwrote your partition?
[09:15] <PartRecover> yes
[09:16] <Adamfyre> ah ok
[09:16] <PartRecover> what can i do?
[09:16] <Ozik> pozic: any idea who can knows? maybe different q: why ubuntu disappeared from dhcp after some time after halt and other devices not
[09:17] <lijuan_> I want to copy a file into bin folder, why it is showing I am not the owner, permission denied?
[09:17] <pozic> Ozik: do you understand what dhcp does?
[09:18] <Ozik> pozic: ofcourse, but WRT54G2 can't do ip<->MAC reservations, so I go around and set 9999 minutes ip reservation, I am able to look into DHCP clients table
[09:19] <pozic> Ozik: so, use static ip addresses.
[09:19] <pozic> Ozik: that's what I do.
[09:20] <Ozik> pozic: linksys are weird. DHCP starts from <IP_ADDRESS>, router is on 0.1, even if I set up static ie. 0.5 dhcp somehow override it
[09:21] <pozic> Ozik: you can disable dhcp.
[09:21] <pozic> Ozik: unless the router is really the SUX.
[09:21] <PartRecover> I accidentally placed a partition over another one by using ntfsclone uncorrectly (source instead of destination, and viceversa)...i need to restore the old one....any ideas???
[09:22] <TomKaH1138> Hiho
[09:22] <TomKaH1138> Do someone know the channel xbins ?
[09:23] <Ozik> pozic: WRT54G2 really sux, it has firmware 1.5 which can't be replaced by wrt-dd
[09:23] <pozic> Ozik: if you cannot disable dhcp completely, then just throw the router away.
[09:24] <wana> hi
[09:24] <Ozik> pozic: I can do it, but I'm not sjure what will happen then ^^
[09:24] <TomKaH1138> Hi
[09:24] <pozic> Ozik: you have to configure all your clients to use a static ip anyway.
[09:24] <Ozik> *shure
[09:24] <carldoncarls> you can always flash tomato onto it
[09:25] <carldoncarls> or whatever is in these days
[09:25] <Ozik> tomato?
[09:25] <carldoncarls> firmware for routers
[09:26] <Ozik> wrt-dd can be applied but not into WRT54G2, not enough memory LOL
[09:26] <llutz> carldoncarls: wrt54g2 1.5 is not compatible with tomato
[09:26] <carldoncarls> well i'm sure there's gotta be something else besides oem for him that is better
[09:27] <PartRecover> hice un ntfsclone al revés....sobreescribí la particion donde habia datos con la particion vacia del disco usb...como puedo recuperar la particion anterior???
[09:29] <Ozik> pozic: tell me what exaclty does halt?
[09:29] <dirtycookie> hello people, I have an eeePC and it has a small screen. therefore I want to start using the terminal for sending and receiving emails. I need a hand @ setting up a program for it. for the beginning I don't know what programm should be installed
[09:33] <Speedy^SF> yop
[09:33] <red_rail> yo
[09:34] <geirha> dirtycookie: I use mutt. It's a bit hard to set up, but I'm sure there's some guides out there.
[09:34] <dirtycookie> geirha: maybe you could walk me through with a little help of pastebin
[09:35] <tdk200> soreau, i have a problem. the page you have send to me the patch in the site http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/rtl8187b/ is not present
[09:39] <tdk200> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[09:40] <PartRecover> i cloned an empty disk into a written one with ntfsclone....how can i  undo that?
[09:40] <llutz> dirtycookie: http://wiki.mutt.org/index.cgi?MuttFaq  and  http://www.calmar.ws/mutt/    to start
[09:40] <tdk200> i can't find realtekrtl8187b patch
[09:41] <dsafds> ck thesss_ar
[09:41] <dsafds> ck thesss_ar_
[09:41] <dirtycookie> llutz: thanks
[09:41] <PartRecover> help plz!! i cloned an empty disk into a written one with ntfsclone....how can i  undo that?
[09:41] <carldoncarls> partrecover have you tried booting from gparted livecd? do you have your first partition structure written down?
[09:43] <PartRecover> im running a deep search using testdisk now....do you think that would be worthy?
[09:44] <ikonia> PartRecover: game over
[09:44] <carldoncarls> no, it won't be a faulty IO of mem
[09:44] <carldoncarls> it's just properly working mem that has improper data now
[09:45] <x1> Is there a forum for novice programming in c
[09:45] <ikonia> x1: try ##c channel
[09:45] <PartRecover> iknoia: not even photorec?
[09:45] <ikonia> PartRecover: in my view - no
[09:46] <brainwave92> i need to get videos from my miniDV tape onto pc. windows i got no hope left. On ubuntu the tutorials made it look so easy. But it isnt working.
[09:46] <PartRecover> why is that?
[09:46] <ikonia> PartRecover: because that's my opinion based on expereince
[09:47] <ikonia> brainwave92: the first question is "is your video device supported in linux"
[09:47] <ikonia> brainwave92: no point doing anything else until you know the answer to that
[09:47] <brainwave92> i have a sony DCRHC40 camera.....i am trying to use firewire
[09:48] <brainwave92> how do i know if its supported? and if not....how do i go about learning what it takes to even write a driver for it. I know some c++.
[09:49] <ikonia> brainwave92: you can't write a driver for it
[09:49] <brainwave92> like......firewire is supported
[09:49] <brainwave92> and so should be the sony cam right?
[09:49] <ikonia> brainwave92: you probably won't need a "driver" as it's not being used as a device but a video stream, however it does depend on the device, so research if the device is supported
[09:49] <ikonia> brainwave92: no, firewire support does not = device support
[09:49] <brainwave92> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[09:49] <ikonia> brainwave92: I know what firewire is
[09:50] <brainwave92> here they tell about the messages in var/log/kern.log
[09:50] <brainwave92> i was just saying is that i have no such messages on connecting the cam
[09:50] <servet_gozdog> hello every1 :)
[09:50] <servet_gozdog> Can someone please help me : http://paste.ubuntu.com/641247/
[09:50] <brainwave92> ikonia, i never said you didnt......just making myself clear! Am here to ask help....no ego fights :)
[09:51] <ikonia> brainwave92: good luck
[09:51] <brainwave92> ikonia, i tried asking sony guys, and they are just plain incompitent.
[09:51] <ikonia> brainwave92: I doubt that very much
[09:52] <brainwave92> they are repeating the same phrases like- no we cannot guarantee that. Yes it would be wise to try out other cables. Get the camera repaired. And their most irritating......the OS setting might interfere
[09:52] <brainwave92> None really telling what the problem is.
[09:52] <ikonia> brainwave92: that's quite reasonable
[09:53] <brainwave92> How come?
[09:53] <ikonia> brainwave92: as I've said YOU need to find out if that device is supported under linux
[09:53] <blzp> does anyone know if theres a way to force an encryption of a file with gpg? without setting a trust level? I get a warning that the key may not belong to the person
[09:53] <brainwave92> Look when other sony cams like HC 36, HC 46 and all are supported....why not HC 40!
[09:53] <pozic> brainwave92: it is real simple: you ask whether they support it, if they don't you get a different camera.
[09:53] <ikonia> brainwave92: because it's a different device
[09:53] <ikonia> brainwave92: I'm not saying it isn't supported, I'm saying you need to know if it is or not
[09:53] <brainwave92> i ask to whom?
[09:54] <pozic> brainwave92: you ask to whoever wants to sell you one.
[09:54] <red_rail> hell.. they wont know
[09:54] <pozic> brainwave92: or if you already have it, you just try it.
[09:54] <red_rail> and they'll probably just tell you yes anyways
[09:54] <pozic> brainwave92: and if it doesn't work, you learned a lesson.
[09:54] <ikonia> brainwave92: tons of information on the internet, you could actually ask sony
[09:54] <red_rail> if it has a return policy, keep your receipt try it out and take it back
[09:54] <brainwave92> i tried that.....look i
[09:56] <pozic> brainwave92: the reason it is hard to write a driver is not because writing a driver is hard (for most devices at least), it is because it is secret what you have to send to the device to get a certain response.
[09:56] <brainwave92> pozic, i understand
[09:56] <codehotter> pozic: exactly. -_-o Vendors are deliberatly keeping specs secret
[09:57] <pozic> brainwave92: another reason to buy increasingly more open hardware.
[09:58] <brainwave92> wait. If the sony guys say it can be used with firewire, and if there are softwares which can capture data from a sony cam (only 1 example is given in that howto) then where can the problem be?
[09:58] <iridium> brainwave92, I had an HP 7XXX scanner, an all the range of scanners of 7000 series worked in linux.... except the one I had, so these things happen
[09:59] <brainwave92> i would appreciate at least the reason
[09:59] <pozic> brainwave92: the problem is that you have to explain to Linux how to get those images.
[10:00] <ikonia> brainwave92: the song guys say it can be used with firewire IF the OS supports it
[10:00] <servet_gozdog> Can someone please help me : http://paste.ubuntu.com/641247/
[10:00] <ikonia> brainwave92: this is why I said you need to check it's supportability before wasting time trying to debug an issue
[10:01] <ikonia> servet_gozdog: please don't put your question in a pastebin, actually ask the channel
[10:01] <brainwave92> if it isnt supported what options do i have?
[10:01] <ikonia> brainwave92: use it through a supported OS (windows/mac ?)
[10:01] <pozic> servet_gozdog: the solution is simple.
[10:01] <pozic> servet_gozdog: install the proprietary drivers.
[10:01] <brainwave92> it doesnt work there either. And with that.....at least i am getting in onto issues
[10:02] <pozic> servet_gozdog: for the simple reason that the free drivers like to run your graphics card at full speed for some silly reason.
[10:02] <ikonia> brainwave92: if it doesn't work on supported OS's like Windows, there maybe a problem with the device
[10:02] <brainwave92> the thing is....it is rumoured that MS is reducing firewire functionality. And millions of posts on the internet actually tell you how after an update it stopped working
[10:02] <ikonia> brainwave92: that is nosnense
[10:02] <brainwave92> how after xp to vista, or even xp sp2 to sp3 their devices stopped working
[10:03] <servet_gozdog> pozic: you mean i need to install the catalist drivers ?
[10:03] <pozic> servet_gozdog: yes
[10:03] <pozic> servet_gozdog: but you will get a different set of problems back.
[10:03] <brainwave92> ok listen to this......the sony camera should display dv in on being plugged into the port through a cable....
[10:03] <pozic> servet_gozdog: amd developers cannot write drivers, it apepars.
[10:03] <ikonia> brainwave92: no
[10:03] <servet_gozdog> pozic: what problems ?
[10:03] <pozic> appears*
[10:03] <servet_gozdog> pozic: hm.
[10:03] <ikonia> brainwave92: we are not here to support the windows problem
[10:03] <brainwave92> ikonia, correct me then
[10:03] <pozic> servet_gozdog: my machine cannot remain up for more than 5 days.
[10:04] <pozic> servet_gozdog: everytime the AMD driver crashes.
[10:04] <brainwave92> i am saying it doesnt work on windows 'despite' being supported. Its an issue with the OS not the cam. That i'm reasonably sure. So i am here to do it in linux
[10:04] <brainwave92> cause in linux i have a greater control over system
[10:04] <ikonia> brainwave92: no you don't
[10:04] <brainwave92> ikonia, how come?
[10:04] <pozic> brainwave92: you only have greater control, if you know what you are doing.
[10:04] <x1> how do you compile a c profram in command line
[10:04] <brainwave92> pozic, thats why i need help
[10:05] <ikonia> brainwave92: you're not listening to what's been said
[10:05] <ikonia> brainwave92: if the device isn't working under a supported OS like windows - there is more likley a problem with the device
[10:05] <kelbygreen> hey how can you change drive locations? I installed new HDD and my windows HHD was sdc now its sdb and wont boot threw grub
[10:05] <brainwave92> ikonia, i had i serviced 2 days back!!!! thats WHY i'm sure its ok
[10:06] <amijay> Hello ubuntu users. Anybody out there that lives in the UK?
[10:06] <ikonia> brainwave92: no, that's just mechanical, not software
[10:06] <x1> how do you compile a c program in command line?
[10:06] <servet_gozdog> pozic: many times i installed on ubuntu the catalist drivers but i faced the same problem. also with catalist drivers make my ubuntu crazy. for example now compiz works perfect but after the installation of catalist compiz slow down... :(
[10:06] <ikonia> x1: gcc
[10:06] <brainwave92> ikonia, u say a firmware problem?
[10:06] <ikonia> brainwave92: no
[10:06] <ikonia> x1: try the ##c
[10:06] <servet_gozdog> pozic: there is no way to control the fans ? or not enough to control them ?
[10:06] <ikonia> x1: try the ##c channel
[10:06] <pozic> servet_gozdog: also compiz is complete crap.
[10:06] <brainwave92> I asked them to check. I showed them the not working cable. They said the'll check.
[10:07] <brainwave92> I even tried a different cable.
[10:07] <servet_gozdog> pozic: what we should use as alternate of compiz ?
[10:07] <carldoncarls> kelby - you might try a windows cd boot and rewrite the mbr, that happened to me when a sata plug borked on my mobo
[10:07] <pozic> servet_gozdog: just simple metacity.
[10:07] <ikonia> brainwave92: ok, so if someone knows it's working, contact them and ask them how to get it working under windows
[10:07] <ikonia> brainwave92: the other option there is a problem with your PC
[10:07] <pozic> servet_gozdog: I think they call it 'no effect'.
[10:07] <x1> ikonia, invite only, but practically I have a .c how do i compile ie command line
[10:07] <ikonia> x1: it's not invite only
[10:08] <pozic> servet_gozdog: Or if you want pretty pictures you could try E17.
[10:08] <ikonia> !register | x1
[10:08] <pozic> ikonia: you failed.
[10:08] <ikonia> pozic: ?
[10:08] <pozic> ikonia: hmm, no, I was wrong.
[10:08] <servet_gozdog> pozic: yes we call it as no effect... i think it is nice to see(if possible) the desktop little bit nice (with effects....) if you use the computerall day...
[10:09] <brainwave92> ikonia, yes the pc is possible. And i asked sony the reason. Their answers were flat baseless. They are incompitent, here in India at least.
[10:09] <kelbygreen> well I have windows vista on grub (I havnt used on this setup) and its on sdb but it wont boot, says to install windows cd but the windows 7 is sdc and it just stays maroon screen and goes back to grub
[10:09] <pozic> servet_gozdog: sure, but compiz has been implemented by God knows who and it simply is a bad implementation.
[10:09] <servet_gozdog> pozic: e17 is just perfect.. i try it and i read many thinks about it.. but it must have many desktop environments on it.. am am waiting for it..
[10:09] <brainwave92> Service center guys were like that. So i am going to write to the higer authorities, but that s a different issue.
[10:10] <servet_gozdog> pozic: i even can not use the system tray on 17 :(
[10:10] <brainwave92> ikonia, how do i check if its a problem with pc?
[10:10] <ikonia> brainwave92: ask the sony guys to walk you through the setup, or test with a known working device
[10:10] <pozic> brainwave92: go to whoever sold you the device and let him show you how to get it working on Windows.
[10:10] <pozic> brainwave92: then there is a base line and you can try it on Linux.
[10:10] <pozic> brainwave92: simple.
[10:11] <carldoncarls> kelby - sounds like grub isn't aware of an sdb device being bootable... sec
[10:11] <servet_gozdog> pozic: what do you think about beryl ?
[10:11] <brainwave92> pozic, thanks. i'll do that
[10:11] <kelbygreen> if I put the windows disk in wont it put the windows as a boot menu ?? I know once and once only windows did show ubuntu in the boot menu but once only
[10:11] <pozic> servet_gozdog: I classify it in the same area, but that's based on old experience.
[10:12] <pozic> servet_gozdog: I want my machine to respond immediately, not waste time on silly graphics.
[10:12] <pozic> servet_gozdog: some people take it to the extreme and work without X even.
[10:12] <kelbygreen> well windows 7 in on sdb it was on sdc but I never had windows vista but it has always had a option in grub for it under a drive that was my slave but now I upgraded the slave same sata port and its now sdc not sdb
[10:13] <kelbygreen> is there a way to edit grub and change the windows 7 for sdc to sdb
[10:14] <servet_gozdog> pozic: you think like this because you need performance or you think that beryl and compiz are not good as techinal ?
[10:14] <robin0800> kelbygreen, that is why you should use uuid and not sda etc
[10:14] <pozic> servet_gozdog: technically they suck.
[10:14] <kelbygreen> tried setting bios options so unbuntu boots first then windows then slave and then the the othe way around but with ubuntu first of coarse
[10:15] <tuxfan74> is it possible to make Ubuntu more like Arch Linux? Such as using PKGBUILD files in Ubuntu for compiling, and changing mirrors to make Ubuntu more of a bleeding edge distribution?
[10:15] <newb100> ikonia, how do i  "you need to be identified with services"
[10:15] <kelbygreen> how do you use uuid? and can it be changed without a system format
[10:15] <ikonia> tuxfan74: not really no, that just makes it your own distro again
[10:15] <ikonia> newb100: join the channel #freenode and ask for help
[10:15] <tuxfan74> okay ikonia
[10:16] <robin0800> you run sudo blkid to optain uuid's then they are put into fstab
[10:16] <kelbygreen> never knew there was another way to do it its always been sd_ for me
[10:17] <robin0800> kelbygreen, you run sudo blkid to optain uuid's then they are put into fstab
[10:17] <kelbygreen> so will I have to do anything else ?
[10:17] <kelbygreen> as with linux I always found its never as simple as a one thing deal to get stuff working
[10:17] <robin0800> kelbygreen, reboot
[10:18] <servet_gozdog>  pozic: i have interested on the code of beryl or compiz projects... But i did not know they suck technicaly... you mean linux and opengl deserves more than this projects ... !?
[10:18] <staz_> what is best flash player ? need one. should i install adobe or something else
[10:18] <servet_gozdog> staz_: adobe
[10:19] <staz_> ok ty
[10:19] <servet_gozdog> or html5 :D
[10:20] <ikonia> servet_gozdog: there is only adobe
[10:20] <ikonia> servet_gozdog: sorry, that was for staz_
[10:21] <robin0800> kelbygreen, yes be very careful as a mistake after fstab changes you have to run sudo update-grub which might fix your problem on its own
[10:27] <jos> Hi I'm trying to customize my ubuntu with themes, but even when I install the most popular ones, it looks great except for the launchbar (is that what it's called?) on top
[10:28] <jos> because it gives white text on a light gray background which makes it almost unreadable and its not like in the screenshot
[10:28] <newb100> ikonia, I use cc, which parameters you recomend
[10:29] <robin0800> jos, think only radiance and ambiance themes can change the unity panel
[10:29] <MestreLion> jos: which ubunu?
[10:30] <jos> 11.04
[10:30] <hadeszka> hello
[10:30] <MestreLion> jos: besides... you mean the launcher (at left side) or the top panel?
[10:31] <jos> the top panel
[10:31] <jos> perhaps I can show you, one sec
[10:32] <hadeszka> i'd like to ask some help: i just installed 11.04, and purged pulseaudio because of the not functioning microphone, and tried to use Volti as sound mixer, but it is freezing
[10:32] <ikonia> newb100: it depends on what you want to do, as I've said ##c and #gcc would be the best place to ask
[10:32] <hadeszka> "can't open Master control for card SB, trying to select first available mixer channel"
[10:32] <newb100> ok tks
[10:32] <jos> MestreLion: I'm trying to change it to this: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Zukitwo?content=140562
[10:33] <jos> but the topbar turns light grey when i enable it
[10:33] <MestreLion> jos: as Robin said, only the default Radiance and Ambiante will correctly display nice in Unity
[10:33] <Mepho> hm... hm.. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows_ubuntu_pow
[10:34] <MestreLion> jos: besides, that theme was designed for Gnome-shell (Gnome3 / GTK+3)... Ubuntu uses Gnome2... it wont work
[10:35] <jos> ah i see
[10:35] <consolers> with ubuntu "11.04", the "xserver-xorg-video-vesa" driver gives a blank screen on some intel mother with an integrated video card. theres nothing i can do is there?
[10:36] <MestreLion> in 11.04, Unity is just a (huge) custom compiz plugin... but under the hood its still Gnome2/GTK+2
[10:37] <MestreLion> in 11.10 it will (hopefully) be integrated with Gnome3 and use GTK+3 libraries... but it will still NOT be Gnome-Shell...
[10:38] <Mepho> consolers: you can use something else than vesa or change version or friking ignore ubuntu version because issue has nothing to do with ubutu XX.XX
[10:40] <mattt360> Hey, is there any way of reading the topic with Telepathy when its too big to fit the window? /topic tries to set it, not read it :/
[10:40] <mattt360> Hrm, NVM, stretching the window over multiple workspaces works ^_^
[10:44] <robin0800> MestreLion, it already is in alpha 2 and gnome shell is in the software centre so can be installed
[10:46] <MestreLion> robin0800: no doubt it will be avaliable, but... wouldnt using it be asking for trouble? :P
[10:47] <MestreLion> feels like installing gnome3 from PPA in 11.04
[10:47] <michielc> join #ogd
[10:47] <MestreLion> it is avaliable, it can be installed... but it doubt it will work flawleslly without some major taking
[10:48] <MestreLion> tweaking*
[10:48] <chewey> Hi. I fanally got around to getting my Sixxs tunnel - now I want to enable IPv6 privacy extensions. Setting net.ipv6.conf.eth0.use_tempaddr=2 via sysctl works fine, but requires a reconnect. How do I enable this on startup?
[10:48] <PAM> hey
[10:48] <wAAX-> hi
[10:48] <PAM> any nomal guys here
[10:48] <PAM> ?
[10:48] <wAAX-> nop
[10:49] <PAM> normal
[10:49] <PAM> lol
[10:49] <FloodBot1> PAM: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <PAM> how are u ?
[10:49] <PAM> ?
[10:49] <MestreLion> PAM: define "normal"
[10:49] <oCean> PAM: this is ubuntu support, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <PAM> lol
[10:51] <syslq> I heard some very mixed responses to ubuntu 11.04 and unity, anyway I gave it a trial go and all I can say is WOW. If there are any developers here, you have done a freaking fantastic job with this release
[10:52] <ZiauddinMK> is it ok to post my 3D art here? http://qemum.org/downloads/preview_dragon.jpg
[10:52] <PAM> hey ,i felt very odd  here ?
[10:52] <oCean> ZiauddinMK: no it is not
[10:52] <ikonia> ZiauddinMK: not really no
[10:52] <oCean> PAM: do you have a support question?
[10:52] <MestreLion> PAM: what is your point?
[10:52] <PAM> uhh
[10:53] <oCean> PAM: I already told you chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[10:53] <PAM> no people chat here
[10:53] <PAM> sorry
[10:53] <ikonia> no problem
[10:54] <MestreLion> PAM: here is not the proper place to chat... its a channel meant to help people with their ubuntu issues
[10:54] <PAM> so how can i enter it ?
[10:54] <oCean> PAM: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <PAM> oh
[10:54] <PAM> thanks
[10:54] <PAM> i see
[10:54] <PAM> let me try it
[10:54] <bluecry> hmm
[10:55] <rondi> how to sync my comp with the config files i found in github
[10:55] <MestreLion> btw oCean, is there any "friendly" way to join channelns in xchat?
[10:55] <oCean> MestreLion: typing is not friendly?
[10:56] <MestreLion> ./j #channels sounds so... mIRC :P
[10:56] <oCean> MestreLion: menu Server > Join channel
[10:56] <MestreLion> oCean: perfect answer... i wonder how did i mis that :$
[10:59] <carldoncarls> what's cracking?dir
[11:00] <carldoncarls> (ignore that, mistype)
[11:00] <bullgard4> [Natty]  Calling Banshee via the GNOME menu will execute the binary using the option --redirect.log. Where does Banshee write log messages?
[11:00] <ikonia> bullgard4: do a search for redirect.log
[11:00] <ikonia> bullgard4: I'd guess /var/log somewhere, but it could also be in your home dir
[11:01] <bullgard4> ikonia: '~$ locate redirect.log' does not produce any output.
[11:02] <ikonia> bullgard4: looking at the man page --redirect.log is not a valid option
[11:02] <jos> mm
[11:02] <ikonia> bullgard4: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/banshee.1.html
[11:04] <bullgard4> ikonia: I consulted the manpage before I posted here. --redirect log is not listed there as an option. Still, the GNOME menu uses this option. I believe that the manpage is outdated. It is dated 2009.
[11:05] <francisco_t> Anybody remember a program to see  how the services/process startup in boot??? The program generates a graphic... i dont remember the name :(
[11:05] <ikonia> bullgard4: well, I don't believe it is,
[11:05] <ikonia> bullgard4: do banshee --help
[11:05] <ikonia> bullgard4: do you see the option?
[11:06] <bullgard4> ikonia: I do not see the option. But --help does not list all options.
[11:07] <ikonia> bullgard4: so the man page doesn't list it, --help doesn't list it, and the command doesn't appear to work, so that to me suggests it's not a valid option
[11:07] <xia-PAM> Why so many people here, but does not talk?
[11:07] <ikonia> bullgard4: or the option isn't doing what you expect it to do, eg: it's actually not a log file redirector
[11:07] <ikonia> xia-PAM: please - you've been asked and told this is a support channel
[11:07] <bullgard4> ikonia: Yes, this may be an explanation. --  Thank you.
[11:08] <xia-PAM> yea
[11:08] <xia-PAM> but u told me that room
[11:08] <xia-PAM> no one talk
[11:08] <xia-PAM> it's so weird
[11:08] <bullgard4> xia-PAM: Many Ubuntu users prefer to idle.
[11:08] <ikonia> xia-PAM: yes they do
[11:08] <xia-PAM> uhh
[11:08] <xia-PAM> thanks
[11:08] <xia-PAM> i'm a new
[11:09] <xia-PAM> so don't mind
[11:10] <consolers> hmm there isnt any xserver-xorg-video-vga in natty
[11:11] <consolers> and xserver-xorg-video-vesa gives a blank screen. `intel' doesnt support this integrated video card, so i just cant get any X with natty's xorg can i
[11:11] <rich97> Hi there, I keep getting this really annoying screen flicker with both the proprietary and the opensource ATI drivers. How can I force my system to use the integrated chip in my computer? I have these new ATI "swichable" graphics and it's been nothing but trouble since I installed ubuntu on here.
[11:11] <consolers> is there something else i can try
[11:11] <francisco_t> francisco_t: bootchart :)
[11:11] <Ruudjah> How can I install firefox5 on ubuntu? Tried software center, synaptic package manager, and plain download
[11:11] <Araneidae> Hi.  I had some trouble yesterday getting a Samsung CLX-3175N network attached printer/scanner to work with SANE.  The answer involves custom hacking of my install, where's a good place to write this up?  Ubuntu really needs to update its sane-backends, which is the main issue.
[11:12] <Ruudjah> softare center says its already installed (true - 3.6 runs here), synaptic package manager doesnt have ff5, and the download gives a tar.bz2 file
[11:12] <consolers> my best bet at this point seems to be reviving the xfree86 from 2006  for this box.
[11:13] <michielc> consolers: maybe try the "vesa" driver?
[11:13] <ikonia> Ruudjah: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[11:13] <consolers> michielc the problem is with xorgs vesa driver
[11:13] <consolers> i'm looking for ways to use the vesa driver if i can
[11:13] <michielc> consolers: sry, read that wrong. what kind of card is it?
[11:13] <Ruudjah> 10.10 maverick meerkat
[11:13] <ikonia> !info firefox maverick
[11:14] <consolers> i'll have to boot up and lspci it, but motherboard says intel 843something something
[11:14] <ikonia> Ruudjah: firefox 5 is not packaged for 10.10
[11:14] <Ruudjah> So I need 11.04?
[11:14] <iceroot> !ff5 | Ruudjah
[11:14] <ikonia> !info firefox luicd
[11:15] <ikonia> !info firefox lucid
[11:15] <Ruudjah> might make sense b/c a new ubuntu machine at work had ff5 easily installed
[11:16] <Ruudjah> the vidcard driver is f*cked anyways so a 11.04 upgrade aint a bad idea
[11:17] <ikonia> Ruudjah: please control the language
[11:17] <Ruudjah> sorry
[11:17] <ikonia> Ruudjah: if you have to star it out - just don't say it
[11:17] <Ruudjah> my sincere apologies!
[11:17] <ikonia> no problem
[11:17] <michielc> consolers: if it's an 845G you might have a bit of an issue
[11:18] <michielc> consolers: the only driver that seems to work is the i810 and only in 16 bit
[11:18] <Ruudjah> ikonia: I dont understand why it's so hard to have a file download of ff5 which just works, though.
[11:18] <Ruudjah> I know its a mozilla issue
[11:18] <consolers> michielc just checked 82845G
[11:19] <ikonia> Ruudjah: because imagine there are 200+ linux distribtuions, all different, trying to make a package that works on all of them as 1 generic package is VERY hard
[11:19] <Ruudjah> y, but ubuntu is prolly most popular one (thats why I chose ubuntu)
[11:20] <ikonia> Ruudjah: mozilla make a generic build, ubuntu makes a specific one, however firefox has major implications to the build as it's intergrated into the desktop, so it's not easy to make such big version jumps
[11:20]  * consolers goggles
[11:20] <ylmfos> HI
[11:20] <ylmfos> HOW TO HACK FACEBOOK
[11:20] <consolers> yeah google says ubuntu users have this chipset
[11:21] <ikonia> ylmfos: please don't ask silly questions here
[11:21] <ikonia> ylmfos: this channel is for ubuntu support only.
[11:21] <ylmfos> HAHAHA
[11:21] <ylmfos> USING LINUX
[11:21] <Ruudjah> thanks for your help ikonia
[11:21] <ikonia> ylmfos: I'm not laughing, please stop messing around.
[11:21] <consolers> ylmfos use curl and send malformed headers
[11:21] <ikonia> consolers: please don't fuel that sort of thing
[11:21] <Speedy^SF> consolers: ;)
[11:21] <consolers> ok
[11:22] <iceroot> Ruudjah: there is a package from mozilla which is working on all distributions
[11:22] <iceroot> Ruudjah: but its always better to use a repo instead of a single download
[11:23] <iceroot> Ruudjah: just use the ppa ubottu was mentioning
[11:24] <orwells-iphone> Effin TSA at it again http://www.naturalnews.com/032947_TSA_thefts.html
[11:24] <Ruudjah> I clicked the link of obuttu but I dont understand a thing of it. Despite the fact I'm a software devver.
[11:24] <iceroot> !ppa | Ruudjah
[11:25] <iceroot> hm, there should be a text about adding a ppa
[11:25] <oCean> orwells-iphone: wrong channel
[11:26] <consolers> "AFAIK, Since version 10.04 (or was it 10.10?) the Intel 8xx series is blacklisted by Ubuntu to only run with the vesa-driver." but even that doesnt work :(
[11:26] <io> iceroot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Other%20Repositories
[11:26] <Ruudjah> So how do I go from the ppa linked page to install ff5>/
[11:26] <iceroot> io: great, that text should be added to the factorid !ppa
[11:27] <iceroot> Ruudjah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20Other%20Repositories
[11:27] <io> iceroot: feel free
[11:27] <iceroot> Ruudjah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs
[11:28] <Ruudjah> As described above, go to System > Administration > Software Sources > Other Software --> there is no "software sources" menu itrem in the admin menu
[11:29] <michielc> consolers: from"http://intellinuxgraphics.org/user.html"  "Only the i810 driver works, only with 16bit mode because in 24bit mode the banding of gradients and false colours make this chipset unusable for graphical works. With xorg's intel module only blank screen the result."
[11:30] <iceroot> Ruudjah: there is something like "sudo add-apt-repository foobar" dont have ubuntu here so cant look at the exact command but it starts with add-apt if i am correct
[11:31] <io> '$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name'
[11:33] <iceroot> io: thanks
[11:37] <consolers> thanks michielc, i'll try that
[11:38] <soultekkie> any official release for 2.6.39 kernels for natty or lucid?
[11:39] <ShantamMoonstar> just would like to know if people have had experience with gnome 3 as i was thinking of installing it on ubuntu 11.04
[11:39] <juarez> Всем привет)
[11:40] <tensorpudding> !ru | juarez
[11:40] <juarez> #ubuntu-ru
[11:41] <consolers> wait michielc, that was for 845G chipset. i have 82845G, i'm not sure beforehand that comment applies
[11:41] <jamescarr> hell...
[11:41] <michielc> consolers: those are not the same?
[11:41] <juarez> yo
[11:41] <consolers> besides natty's xorg bundles i810 as part of "intel" which fails
[11:41] <jamescarr> apparently ssh-agent isnt running by default on this box...
[11:41] <jamescarr> what is the "right way" to turn it on?
[11:42] <usr13> ShantamMoonstar: Unity not doint it for you?
[11:42] <consolers> i'll try next time i boot up. (i just have  bootable isos for natty and 2 natty derived products)
[11:42] <jamescarr> apparently ssh-agent isnt running by default on this box...
[11:43] <usr13> jamescarr: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:43] <jamescarr> already installed
[11:43] <jamescarr> ssh-agent exists on this box
[11:43] <io> jamescarr: '$ ssh-agent <window manager>'
[11:43] <jamescarr> it just isnt running
[11:43] <jamescarr> io, server, hence no window manager
[11:43] <michielc> consolers, unless you have any other promblems as well, you don't have to reboot to test X configurations
[11:43] <io> jamescarr: '$ ssh-agent' then
[11:44] <usr13> jamescarr: ssh-agent?
[11:44] <jamescarr> that doesnt run it "right"
[11:44] <jamescarr> meaning, ssh-add doesn't fing work
[11:44] <io> jamescarr: explain
[11:44] <ShantamMoonstar> usr13: not that at all, i like unity, just wondering if things would work better
[11:44] <jamescarr> everytime I run ssh-agent manually, I have to go and copy and past env variables manually and export them
[11:44] <usr13> ShantamMoonstar: Oh, ok.
[11:44] <jamescarr> this means it doesnt work after reboot
[11:45] <tails_> hi, i need a little help with gcc, c compiler for ubuntu.
[11:45] <io> jamescarr: create an init.d file for it?
[11:46] <usr13> jamescarr: Maybe ssh-add  ?
[11:46] <jamescarr> usr13, like I said, ssh-add doesn't work because ssh-agent isnt running
[11:46] <usr13> jamescarr: O
[11:48] <scummos> hey -- i got some weird scanner driver here which requires a terribly old version of some library, but works fine with the new one (just dpkg doesn't know that). if forced dpkg to install the package ignoring the dependency, and everything works fine; only apt-get complains about borken dependencies
[11:48] <io> jamescarr: you said something about the environment variables being incorrect when using '$ ssh-agent' right? take a look at http://mah.everybody.org/docs/ssh
[11:48] <scummos> can i make apt ignore those dependency conflicts?
[11:49] <io> jamescarr: if that doesn't help then you can try #ubuntu-server as you mentioned that this was a server install
[11:49] <lcb> hi. any known software management suite for mobile devices?
[11:50] <usr13> scummos: You could probably just symlink the old name to the new one.
[11:50] <tails_> i need help, please!
[11:50] <io> !ask | tails_
[11:51] <scummos> usr13: where? i already symlinked the library to make it work ;P
[11:51] <tails_> ... ok... i want to know how to compile with gcc, i can't find the program...
[11:51] <io> !gcc | tails_
[11:52] <io> tails_: what are you trying to do?
[11:52] <jamescarr> oh man... ssh-agent is annoying to get running without X
[11:53] <tails_> i'm working for school, so i created a basic program (hello world) in lots of languages, and i need to compile the C one
[11:54] <ShArkY_> tails_: gcc code.c -o code
[11:54] <bullgard4> I clicked on the GNOME menu Applications > Sound & Video > Banshee Mediaplayer. '~$ ps aux | grep banshee; 16905 bash /usr/bin/banshee --redirect-log --play-enqueued'. Why is here inserted explicitely the command interpreter "bash"?
[11:54] <jamescarr> why does the ubuntu forum require logins now?
[11:55] <jamescarr> just to view?
[11:55] <io> tails_: '$ g++ -Wall hello.cc -o hello', like this?
[11:55] <Abhijit> jamescarr, yeah. happend with me too. no idea why this change.
[11:55] <Abhijit> jamescarr, which link you are visiting?
[11:55] <phoenixlzx> http://phoenixlzx.wordpress.com/2011/07/10/71/
[11:56] <tails_> wait, i'm loosing myself
[11:56] <io> jamescarr: ask them yourself in #ubuntuforums
[11:57] <tails_> i created the sourcecode into "hello.c", "gcc code.c -o code" says that hello.c doesn't exist
[11:57] <jamescarr> I just created an account :)
[11:57] <jamescarr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40205
[11:58] <io> tails_: '$ gcc hello.c -o hello'
[11:58] <ShArkY_> tails_: gcc hello.c -o hello (be sure to stand in the right PATH)
[11:58] <sander> f
[11:58] <lcb> any known software management & data suite for mobile devices?  (windows mobile/android etc)
[11:59] <tails_> what path should i place in?
[11:59] <ShArkY_> Place it in the homedir of your current user
[11:59] <tails_> ok, just a sec
[11:59] <ShArkY_> (it doesn't really matter actually:))
[11:59] <sander> Why are you guys not getting after chicks instead of talking about hardware or software  issue's
[11:59] <arch_adam> how do i chmod recursivly?
[11:59] <io> !offtopic | sander
[12:00] <io> arch_adam: '$ chmod -r'?
[12:00] <ShArkY_> sander: because we have brains, and you don't
[12:00] <tails_> so in the path with my name
[12:00] <io> arch_adam: '-R' sorry
[12:00] <ShArkY_> cd ~<username>
[12:01] <sander> If you would have brains as much as I do, you would not have to ask!
[12:01] <oCean> sander: stop the offtopic talk please
[12:01] <ShArkY_> Go hunt chicks brainless
[12:01] <tails_> ok, solved , thank you
[12:01] <oCean> ShArkY_: please stop it
[12:02] <ShArkY_> np:)
[12:02] <dr_willis_2> ~ is a shortcut for /home/yourusername
[12:02] <Abhijit> lcb, ask in ##windows or android forums
[12:02] <ShArkY_> oCean >
[12:02] <ShArkY_> ?
[12:02] <ShArkY_> Stop what actually ?
[12:03] <lcb> Abhijit: ##windows...  that's a joke, for sure
[12:03] <Abhijit> lcb, you asked something for windows mobile and android
[12:03] <jamescarr> AH!!! how do you get a new init.d script to start at boot time?
[12:03] <Abhijit> !init | jamescarr
[12:03] <tails_> ok, done, uff... sorry, i switched recently to ubuntu, so i'm a newbie "^^
[12:04] <lcb> Abhijit: data management, software management for mobile devices
[12:04] <jamescarr> this is becoming a pain... I might just install the damn X server on this server
[12:04] <ShArkY_> jamescarr: What is the problem ?
[12:06] <dr_willis_2> jamescarr,   init.d is  the old way.. the upstart scripts are normally /etc/init/ stuff
[12:06] <jamescarr> nvm...
[12:06] <jamescarr> I just delete the dumb init script
[12:06] <jamescarr> eval $(ssh-agent -s) was all I needed
[12:06] <jamescarr> jammed it into my bashrc
[12:06] <jamescarr> works
[12:07] <ShArkY_> lol
[12:09] <semerkhet> any network guru available to help me setting up my network config?
[12:09] <dr_willis_2> you normally wouldent want such a thing in an init script anyway jamescarr ..  :)
[12:09] <jamescarr> yeah I know now
[12:09] <dr_willis_2> semerkhet,  tell the channel the problem. and see who can help
[12:09] <jamescarr> I got it working in the init script, then discovered that it exports the env vars for root only :)
[12:11] <semerkhet> ok, i would like to give one interface two ipv4 and two ipv6 addresses. some network admins told me that it's ugly to use aliases for this (because it's the same device) and that ifconfig (net-tools) is depricated. so i'm trying to set it up using ip (iproute2) instead. only it doesn't seem to work. i'm currently trying to add an extra ipv4 address by adding the following to /etc/network/interfaces: up ip addr add x.x.x.x dev eth0
[12:12] <teddyroosebelt> has there been a fix for the boot screen splash for 11.04?
[12:12] <semerkhet> i then restart my interfaces with ifdown -a; ifup -a, but it doesn't work
[12:12] <semerkhet> and nothing shows up in syslog
[12:18] <PeterNL> Hi, I'm trying to record audio from my line-in with audacity, but it doesn't work. The pulseaudio volume control also doesn't show any signal
[12:21] <PeterNL> ...it might be a hardware problem. How do I check that?
[12:22] <bullgard4> I clicked on the GNOME menu Applications > Sound & Video > Banshee Mediaplayer. '~$ ps aux | grep banshee; 16905 bash /usr/bin/banshee --redirect-log --play-enqueued'. Why is here inserted explicitely the command interpreter "bash"?
[12:28] <bullgard4> !audio | PeterML
[12:33] <prefed> hi
[12:35] <ParadigmUltra> Anyone try City of Heroes with Wine?
[12:35] <bryan> hello
[12:35] <bryan> is there someone to help  me
[12:36] <bryan> plz
[12:36] <compdoc> with?
[12:36] <bryaniiix> i cant get my joystick working on ubuntu
[12:37] <bryaniiix> i have done system testing  but nothing
[12:37] <bryaniiix> its a chillstream logitech
[12:38] <bullgard4> bryaniiix: "Can't get working" is no exact description. What error message do you obtain?
[12:38] <bryaniiix> i  cant get it install because i dont  know how
[12:39] <bryaniiix> theres no linux driver for this device
[12:39] <kennethreitz> how would i go about changing the eth numbering of my nic in ubuntu (eg 'eth2' => 'eth0')
[12:40] <bryaniiix> bullgard4
[12:41] <ParadigmUltra> bryaniiix:  Best do purchase devices that do run in linux.  it encorages manufacturers to be linux friendly and saves you headaches.  I bet there is a list somewhere of devices that work will in Ubuntu
[12:42] <bryaniiix> para .. my country need to change system of education
[12:42] <bullgard4> bryaniiix: If there is no Linux driver for your device, your chances are dim. You could consider using the device in wine if you have got a Windows driver. But I cannot recommend that.
[12:43] <bryaniiix> do you know another option plz
[12:43] <ikonia> bryaniiix: if there is no kernel support (driver) then the device will never work
[12:44] <bryaniiix> how to remedy this m8
[12:44] <ikonia> bryaniiix: you can't
[12:44] <bryaniiix> wait i show you the forum answer
[12:45] <Jygga> bryaniiix http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428469 ?
[12:46] <fufu> hi - i've got a question: i installed natty recently (with lvm and dmcrypt) - the installation was succesful, but there's one little thing which annoys - in the filemanager there's a link to a LVM2-partition, which is totally useless (because it's the crypted-container which contains the partitions and it can't be mounted directly). is there a way to mask/delete this entry?
[12:46] <bryaniiix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428469
[12:47] <arch_adam> i have just installed lamp stack
[12:47] <ikonia> bryaniiix: ok - so there "is" a driver for it, it's the xbox game controller, the forum instructions tell you what to do
[12:48] <bryaniiix> i tried it doesnt seem working
[12:48] <ikonia> bryaniiix: in what way ?
[12:48] <arch_adam> but when i create a file in var/www , but i only can create a file if i set chmod to 777, and i know this is unsafe, how do i sort this?
[12:49] <ikonia> arch_adam: change the owner of the /var/www directory
[12:51] <Jimmyon> Hello
[12:51] <arch_adam> ikonia, when i ls -l i see the change but it has root again what is the other root parameter for?
[12:51] <Jimmyon> i need support to install ndiswrapper on ubuntu 11
[12:51] <ikonia> arch_adam: user:group - root user root group
[12:52] <scummos> Jimmyon: just... install it?
[12:53] <arch_adam> thankyou ikonia
[12:53] <Jimmyon> i have to install it via terminal
[12:53] <Jimmyon> and im a total ubuntu noob
[12:53] <compdoc> Ive never had luck with wrappers
[12:53] <Jimmyon> i know how to browse to the folder
[12:54] <Jimmyon> and the install-readme says i should do make uninstall, make, sudo make install
[12:54] <Jimmyon> but it returns a bunch of errors
[12:54] <babu> what is the diff bn open jdk and gcj
[12:55] <babu> could anybody tell the diff bn open jdk and gcj
[12:55] <bryaniiix> ive tried something on the terminal but no response
[12:56] <scummos> Jimmyon: im sure there's an ndiswrapper package in the software center
[12:56] <Jimmyon> but i need ndiswrapper to get my wireless internet stick to run
[12:56] <Jimmyon> and no internet, no software center
[12:58] <ikonia> bryaniiix: you need to explain the problem
[12:58] <ikonia> bryaniiix: saying "I've wrote stuff and no response" is the same as me helping you saying " type stuff and it works"
[12:59] <bryaniiix> sorry i mean  did the program on the forum thread on the terminal but nothing
[12:59] <bryaniiix> its says i dont have a shell
[13:00] <SpamapS> anybody have a sure fire way to copy video files onto an iphone4 from natty?
[13:00]  * SpamapS gave up on banshee and is now trying gtkpod
[13:00] <ikonia> bryaniiix: can you please open a terminal and type "uname -a" and paste the otuput
[13:00] <ikonia> output
[13:00] <babu> could anybody tell the diff bn open jdk and gcj
[13:01] <ikonia> babu: different providers / software
[13:01] <SpamapS> babu: gcj compiles java into machine code, open jdk uses a traditional jvm
[13:01] <bryaniiix> bryan@bryan-Aspire-5315:~$ uname -a
[13:01] <bryaniiix> Linux bryan-Aspire-5315 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[13:01] <bryaniiix> bryan@bryan-Aspire-5315:~$
[13:01] <babu> means what jvm will be used by gcj
[13:01] <SpamapS> and typically gcj causes problems. :-P
[13:02] <SpamapS> babu: it isn't a jvm, its a runtime.. sort of like Objective C
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:03] <bryaniiix> was that of some help
[13:03] <babu> i didn't get u... i read that jvm is necessary for executing every java code...
[13:03] <babu> what's the diff bn runtime and jvm
[13:03] <ikonia> bryaniiix: that provies you have a shell, the error is in what you are typing
[13:03] <SpamapS> babu: the "runtime" is just a set of library calls that run as native code. A JVM is a virtual machine.
[13:03] <bryaniiix> ouch]h
[13:04] <ikonia> bryaniiix: "proves you have a shell" sorry
[13:04] <ubuntufreak21> what is the syntax command for mounting usb?
[13:04] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: it should get auto mounted when you plug it in
[13:04] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: the syntax is the same as mounting a disk
[13:04] <ubuntufreak21> where do i find auto mount on my computer?
[13:05] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: same place as the rest of your disks
[13:05] <compdoc> it auto-mounts for you, or it should
[13:05] <stefan_> hi
[13:05] <ubuntufreak21> would that be media?
[13:05] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: the disk should get auto mounted to /media/$disk_label
[13:05] <pradeep> acer aod sound driver
[13:05] <ubuntufreak21> where do i type that in/
[13:05] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: type what ?
[13:06] <bryaniiix> sorry do you have line to type there
[13:06] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: the disk is mounted on /media/$disk_label - where $disk_label is the name of your disk
[13:06] <pradeep> acer aod250 sound driver
[13:06] <babu> can't i install sun jdk in ubuntu
[13:06] <ubuntufreak21> how do i find that exactly
[13:06] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: if you just use the file browser to look in /media, it should be obvious
[13:07] <stefan_> hello there
[13:07] <babu> how to automount the fat32 drive during startup
[13:07] <ikonia> babu: put it in /etc/fstab
[13:07] <Lasers_> Anybody here use .Xresources to customize stuffs right now?
[13:07] <stefan_> my internet connection is very slow in ubuntu (and mint) compared to its speed on windows 7. how do I improve/fix the speed?
[13:07] <bryaniiix> wa ikonia are you here
[13:08] <babu> how to put the entry
[13:08] <babu> wat r the parameter i hv to give
[13:08] <mnemonic76> 11.04 installer is unable to properly detect hard disk... any ideas?
[13:08] <ikonia> stefan_: if it's bad in ubuntu and mint, it suggests your network card connection "driver" many not be as good as the windows one
[13:08] <compdoc> babu, usually, you edit /etc/fstab
[13:08] <ikonia> babu: use an existing entry as an example/template and change the device, mountpoint and file ystem to vfat or vfat32
[13:08] <ikonia> bryaniiix: yes, I am here
[13:08] <stefan_> ikonia: is there a list of suggested network drivers for linux?
[13:09] <ikonia> stefan_: ???
[13:09] <babu> wat s dump and pass means
[13:09] <bryaniiix> sorry is there a method to get a driver for
[13:09] <stefan_> ikonia: i would like a better driver
[13:09] <ikonia> stefan_: better driver ??? what are you talking about
[13:09] <mnemonic76> It is an old compaq with ATA only.
[13:09] <ikonia> bryaniiix: that forum post details how to get the driver for you
[13:09] <stefan_> ikonia: ???
[13:10] <ikonia> stefan_: what are you talking about a better driver ?
[13:10] <bryaniiix> ok thx ...
[13:10] <ikonia> stefan_: the "drivers" are part of the kernel
[13:10] <babu> what s mtab for
[13:10] <stefan_> ikonia: you said mine may not be good enough
[13:10] <Aple> Hey guys, how do i uninstall Win7 and install Ubuntu? Not really looking for any of that dual-boot partition stuff... Just have an old laptop I want to mess with Linux on
[13:10] <ikonia> stefan_: yes, not all network cards are supported as well as their windows version
[13:10] <mnemonic76> Aple: Very simple. Download the iso, burn to cd and boot.
[13:10] <ikonia> babu: it shows mounted drives
[13:10] <ikonia> babu: you don't edit it
[13:10] <newbie22> I am planning on converting an Dell Dimension 2300 pc into a linux box.  I trying to decide if I should install Ubuntu or Debian ??
[13:11] <Aple> mnemonic76: But won't win7 still be on that laptop?
[13:11] <ikonia> newbie22: your choice
[13:11] <stefan_> ikonia: is there any workaround to improve my speed, or is it just one of the fallacies of 11.04 i'm going to have to deal with?
[13:11] <Aple> Sorry, I'm a -complete- newb to anything other than Win. :)
[13:11] <Aple> Trying to fix that though.
[13:11] <ikonia> stefan_: look at the obvious stuff, make sure your dns is set / configured correctly, make sure the network card speeds (10,100,100/fdx/hdx) are setup correctly
[13:11] <ikonia> stefan_: that's the obvious stuff to check
[13:11] <ubuntufreak21> what the heck is that?
[13:12] <ubuntufreak21> file browser?
[13:12] <stefan_> ikonia: how do i check the network card speeds?
[13:12] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: the application you use to look at the file system
[13:12] <ikonia> stefan_: ethtool
[13:13] <stefan_> ikonia: thanks, installing right now.
[13:13] <Madara`> by any chance any one know application that can broadcast my input microphone to url so any one can use any shoutcast application to hear what im saying ?
[13:13] <stefan_> cannot get wake-on-lan settings, cannot get link status
[13:13] <mnemonic76> Aple: if you want to install ubuntu, the cd will walk you through wiping the hard drive clean and installing ubuntu, thus ridding you of windows.
[13:13] <Aple> Nice!
[13:14] <stefan_> ikonia: i'm seeing 10/100/100, but no hdx or fdx
[13:15] <Aple> You can burn this on any ol' CD-R right?
[13:15] <mnemonic76> Aple: just get the iso, burn to cd and try it ... if you have questions ... then come back here, someone can help.
[13:15] <BluesKaj> ubuntufreak21, nautilus = file browser
[13:15] <Aple> Ok, thanks man.
[13:15] <mnemonic76> Aple: yes, regular cdr
[13:16] <Aple> The sad part is I am a programmer.  :D
[13:16] <mnemonic76> Aple: no problem... now if i can just find someon to help ME!
[13:16] <lapaga> Aple, you should try from the cd before you install to make sure it works with your hardware
[13:16] <mnemonic76> Aple: don't feel bad... i can instal oses all day long, but cant program a line of code ;)
[13:16] <cre7en> join #ubuntu-cn
[13:16] <cre7en> ls
[13:16] <ikonia> mnemonic76: clearly you can't as your in here asking for help installing ubuntu
[13:17] <cre7en> quit
[13:17] <cre7en> ?
[13:17] <stefan_> mnemonic76: your question?
[13:17] <d0me5t0s> I have added a python app by hand, and I can run it from a shell, but I am struggling to find out how to get it to appear in the applications launcher
[13:17] <stefan_> cre7en: you need to use /quit
[13:18] <stefan_> and ls is a terminal command, probably won't work in irssi
[13:18] <mnemonic76> There is a problem with the 11.04 installer detecting the ata hard disk in an old compaq desktop I am trying to install on. This same machine previously had 8.04 installed on it just fine.
[13:18] <cre7en> thanks
[13:18] <mnemonic76> ikonia: And you're not helping so far ;)
[13:18] <ikonia> mnemonic76: ok - what would you like us to do ?
[13:18] <stefan_> mnemonic76: sorry
[13:18] <antivirtel> I'm looking for a doc/man/info/tutorial generator app/program, like page created with it: http://projects.gnome.org/gdm/docs/2.14/gdm.html or this http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ - which program is that?!
[13:18] <ikonia> mnemonic76: I'd say I'm pretty helpful with the advice I'm giving to people
[13:19] <stefan_> antivirtel: i don't understand - do you mean a program that spits out the man page of a program into an html file?
[13:19] <ubuntufreak21> that is weird i instered sd card and that works but usb dont
[13:20] <Madara`> anyone know application that can steam what im saying using microphone to others
[13:20] <Madara`> ?
[13:20] <cre7en> how can i join #ubuntu-cn please
[13:20] <ubuntufreak21> and when went to media multi boot a=it said permission denied
[13:20] <ikonia> Madara`: search for shoutcast servers
[13:20] <stefan_> cre7en: you can type /quit, then /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:20] <antivirtel> stefan_ maybe, I want to create a manual for my company. I like thoose manuals, what I linked, because it has a great table of contents, next buttons etc... - I dont think so that  this is a single man page
[13:20] <d0me5t0s> stefan - not /quit
[13:20] <Dynamit> or write
[13:21] <ubuntufreak21> when i went to media then multiboot, it said permission denied
[13:21] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: what file system is on the disk ?
[13:21] <Dynamit> write /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:21] <ubuntufreak21> and the owner and the user are root
[13:21] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: no - what file system is on it
[13:21] <d0me5t0s> simply /join #ubuntu-cn should be enough, and to leave this channel, do  /part
[13:21] <pseubodot> antivirtel: LibreOffice Writer can do master and subdocuments, that might be an option. Personally, I've used LaTeX for complex documents and while the learning curve is high, it produces excellent documents.
[13:22] <ubuntufreak21> oh kingston
[13:22] <pseubodot> antivirtel: It sounds like you want to do something online tho.
[13:22] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: no - that is a brand, what file system, ext4, ntfs, hfs etc
[13:22] <stefan_> antivirtel: google "how to create a man page"
[13:22] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: it doesn't matter, the owner is "root" which is why you (you are not root) can't see it
[13:23] <caps_l0ck> hello all
[13:23] <antivirtel> pseubodot, yeah, I want to do a manual like that pages... and I dont want to work on formatting a lot...
[13:23] <caps_l0ck> can anyone help me with ubuntu please?
[13:23] <ikonia> caps_l0ck: ask a question
[13:23] <Dynamit> what is the problem
[13:24] <ubuntufreak21> oh w95 fat32?
[13:24] <Dynamit> yes
[13:24] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: ok so that doesn't support permissions, so that's the reason it's set to the owner of root
[13:24] <antivirtel> stefan_ ok, I try it once more...
[13:25] <Bursihido> How to config and use tmux?
[13:25] <ubuntufreak21> but it says its bootable though
[13:25] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: I'm sure it is
[13:25] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: bootability has nothing to do with how it's mounted
[13:26] <caps_l0ck> Ok, thanks. I had an ubuntu installation on live usb (persistence) for some reason it won't boot anymore. The files are still there because I can see them when I mount casper-rw on another pc. The problem is that my bitcoins are in my old ~/.bitcoin folder on the broken system. I cant get in because the folder is encrypted. Anyway I can get the wallet.dat file?
[13:26] <Bursihido> How to use tmux???
[13:27] <ikonia> caps_l0ck: not unless you have the key
[13:27] <ubuntufreak21> what if i formatted or partitioned the drive and started over?
[13:27] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: what do you mean what if ?
[13:28] <ubuntufreak21> so your saying its not possible/
[13:28] <Lasers_> caps_l0ck: So how much did you lose? :P
[13:28] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: saying what's not possible ?
[13:28] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: you've not said what you want to do
[13:29] <caps_l0ck> what key?
[13:29] <Dynamit> enc key
[13:29] <caps_l0ck> there was 4.28 BTC
[13:29] <mnemonic76> ikonia: sorry, earlier I was just pointing out the irony in what you said as you did in what I said :)
[13:29] <ubuntufreak21> to get permission to mount the drive
[13:29] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: ok - do you want to keep the data on the drive ?
[13:29] <mnemonic76> Anyway, I had a screaming baby to tend to... back to installer issues.
[13:29] <ubuntufreak21> no
[13:30] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: ok, so unmount it, and put an ubuntu compatible file system on it with a tool such as gparted
[13:30] <caps_l0ck> ikonia: what key?
[13:30] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: at that point you'll have no problem
[13:30] <ikonia> caps_l0ck: the encyption key
[13:30] <Dynamit> i answer that to
[13:30] <mnemonic76> Any guess why the 11.04 hardware-detect piece doesn't see a simple 40gb ata drive that the 8.04 installer did?
[13:30] <ikonia> mnemonic76: support has been dropped ?
[13:31] <ubuntufreak21> how do i get g partyed?
[13:31] <ubuntufreak21> how do i get gparted lol
[13:31] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: install it through the package manager
[13:31] <ubuntufreak21> ok
[13:31] <Dynamit> i use for the moste
[13:31] <mnemonic76> ikonia: well, here's the really interesting bit: if I drop to a shell from the installer and do a fdisk -l /dev/sda it sees the 40gb drive....
[13:31] <eon> hello everybody , I installed Mint and during the instlation I have set up the option : "encrypt my home partition" , now I want to decrypt the patition to make it visible to other OS , what should I do ?  THanks
[13:31] <Dynamit> terminal and apt-get to install
[13:31] <caps_l0ck> ikonia: is there a way I can find the enc key?
[13:31] <d0me5t0s> I'm running natty on a pentium 4 - should I give unity the blame for running the system at 100% cpu doing nothing?
[13:31] <ikonia> mnemonic76: so it can see the drive,
[13:32] <Dynamit> use gnome classic to try
[13:32] <ikonia> eon: what other OS
[13:32] <mnemonic76> ikonia: yes... the SHELL can, but the installer script misses it! Strange to me, but I never had to dig this deep into the installer scripts before.
[13:32] <ikonia> d0me5t0s: no, you should research it to find out what's eating the resource
[13:32] <eon> ikonia: pinguy OS
[13:33] <ikonia> eon: ok - so that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:33] <ikonia> eon: so we don't support/help with that
[13:33] <caps_l0ck> ikonia: is there a way I can find the enc key?
[13:33] <Lasers_> !mint | eon (This is Ubuntu Channel)
[13:33] <d0me5t0s> ikonia, gnome-system-monitor is at the top of the CPU% list, but only at say 20%
[13:34] <d0me5t0s> everything else is below the radar
[13:34] <ikonia> d0me5t0s: so then there is no cpu issue
[13:35] <d0me5t0s> well the cpu history chart in System monitor shows 100%
[13:35] <ikonia> d0me5t0s: but it's not showing it now
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Madara`, I've heard that VLC can stream live audio, but I've never tried it ...you'll have to research it , but there's support at #videolan
[13:35] <Aple> bout to install for the first time. Wish me luck
[13:36] <d0me5t0s> that's what's weird, I'm getting 100%, with only one process showing significant CPU and then only 20% - my assumption was that the rest is taken up by processes showing 0%
[13:36] <ikonia> d0me5t0s: are you currently getting %100 cpu usage, yes/no
[13:36] <Aple> Crap. Forgot CD-rom on laptop is dead. Can I boot from USB just the same?
[13:36] <ubuntufreak21> k  I unmounted what next?
[13:37] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: open gparted and put an ubuntu compatible file system (ext4) on it
[13:37] <d0me5t0s> yes - top is showing 70%us and 30%sy
[13:37] <Madara`> BluesKaj, thank you will give it a try
[13:37] <ikonia> d0me5t0s: ok, so it's a user process
[13:37] <ikonia> d0me5t0s: launch "top" and see what's using cpu
[13:38] <ubuntufreak21> can you give me an example of one
[13:38] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: an example of what ?
[13:38] <ubuntufreak21> ext  4
[13:38] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: that IS the file system, ext4
[13:39] <d0me5t0s> thanks ikonia - I'll investigate further along those lines
[13:39] <ubuntufreak21> oh
[13:39] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: have you opened gparted ?
[13:39] <ubuntufreak21> yes
[13:39] <ubuntufreak21> i unmounted file
[13:39] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: right, so there should be an option if you click on the partition to put a file system on it
[13:39] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: or "format" it
[13:39] <eon> ikonia: Lasers ubottu Mint or ubuntu , they work the same  , so the problems are solved ine the same manner . any way thanks for your help guys :)
[13:40] <ubuntufreak21> um actually it wont let me unmount
[13:40] <Crupulus> Hello ?
[13:40] <ubuntufreak21> i thought it unmounted but it didnt
[13:41] <ikonia> eon: you're not using it - so it's not supported here
[13:41] <mnemonic76> Aple: go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download it kindof walks you through it.
[13:42] <mnemonic76> Aple: there's help getting it loaded on a usb drive, even if you're using windows!
[13:42] <Crupulus> Got an issue with lxde here - help please :p I installed it ("sudo apt-get install lxde"), but all tutorials say i just have to re-login, although that didn't work, and i have no idea where to enable it :/ (Ubuntu 11.04)
[13:43] <mnemonic76> ikonia: The live desktop sees the drive too, but ubiquity fails 'unexpectedly'. Is there a way to install from the livecd without using the Ubiquity installer?
[13:44] <ikonia> mnemonic76: use the alternative install CD
[13:44] <ikonia> mnemonic76: make sure you log a bug too though
[13:44] <antivirtel> pseubodot, isnt it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texinfo ?
[13:44] <robin0800> Crupulus, you click your name and select it at the bottom of the screen
[13:45] <mnemonic76> ikonia: Yeah, I started with the minimal net boot cd, then tried the alternative... exact same issue. The hardware-detect sees a sata controller (there is none) then gives me the option to install to iSCSI (there is none)
[13:46] <ubuntufreak21> how my gibs are so large like for sda1 its 231.90 GiB, /devsda2 extended 1012.00 MiB and for /dev/sda5 linux swap its 1012.00MiB
[13:46] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: what are you talking about
[13:46] <mnemonic76> ikonia: i will definitely submit a bug (first time for that )
[13:47] <ubuntufreak21> it wont letr me unount
[13:47] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: reboot then
[13:47] <Crupulus> robin0800 I'm currently on Unity i think, and when i click my name (top-right) I don't really have any option that can let me do that. I have the "About me", Chat Accounts, Broadcast accounts, etc. but not really what I need
[13:48] <ubuntufreak21> on the red round thing on my login above my username should i click on that so it says my username or should it say ubuntu 11.04/
[13:48] <robin0800> Crupulus, at the logon screen
[13:48] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: just reboot your machine
[13:48] <Crupulus> ah :D hold on
[13:48] <ubuntufreak21> ok
[13:49] <lapaga> Crupulus, log off, click your name to login, under that should be an option to choose
[13:49] <Crupulus> found, thanks
[13:49] <JayVan> how much RAM does a 64bit support?
[13:50] <mnemonic76> ikonia: you're a saint. I was trying to help him last night. he reminds me of a kid I work with... jumps around a bit.
[13:50] <mnemonic76> JayVan: like 384 GB or something ridiculous
[13:51] <ikonia> JayVan: a lot more than you could ever have
[13:51] <Gama11> hey guys.. i'm looking for the location of local shared objects, but the filepath ~/.macromedia/ doesn't seem to exist?
[13:51] <edbian> JayVan: mnemonic76 wikipedia says that amd64 currently limits the address space to 256 TB
[13:52] <edbian> Gama11: It's hidden
[13:52] <JayVan> I see, I have a system that runs on 533MHZ, but I have 6GB worth of 667 MHZ and I also have 4GB worth of 533MHZ. Am i better off with the 667MHZ even though the system will run at 533 anyways?
[13:52] <Lasers_> Gama11: Ctrl + H (to toggle visibility for hidden files/folders) -- If you haven't done that.
[13:52] <ikonia> JayVan: askm the guys in ##hardware
[13:52] <JayVan> thanks!
[13:52] <robin0800> Gama11, ~ is home and . is hidden so now you know
[13:52] <Gama11> oh.. didn't know, thx lasers_
[13:52] <edbian> JayVan: If have 32bit hardware then you can only use 3.2Gb of ram.
[13:52] <babu> how to add gmail account in empathy....only jabber appears in my empathy
[13:53] <edbian> JayVan: I can't say if more ram is better than less faster ram.  #hardware should know
[13:53] <babu> is there any way to get the recently released ubuntu..
[13:53] <mnemonic76> edbian: Maybe that's windows limitation or something.. i have that number stuck in my head.
[13:53] <edbian> babu: Go to the website?  It's free
[13:53] <Gama11> ctrl + h - i begin to like this os more and more :D
[13:53] <babu> i didn't have high bandwith so i'm unable to download
[13:53] <JayVan> last question, how can I get the window snapping feature of Natty in Maverick? already tried Grid in compiz didnt like it
[13:53] <ikonia> babu: get it of linux magazines
[13:53] <ikonia> off linux magazines
[13:54] <babu> how to add gmail account in empathy....only jabber appears in my empathy
[13:54] <ubuntufreak21> k back
[13:54] <Lasers_> babu: Get Debian. So little updates. Rock stable. Never need to download extra packages you never used.
[13:54] <ikonia> babu: you realise gmail is a mail service,
[13:54] <ubuntufreak21> k back
[13:54] <ikonia> Lasers_: please don't talk nosense
[13:54] <ikonia> Lasers_: if he has bandwidth issues, ubuntu or debian will make no difference
[13:55] <ubuntufreak21> hey ikonia what next?
[13:55] <Gama11> i'm using two monitors, but some of the tray icons seem to be missing on the right one.. (ubuntu 11.04, unity)
[13:55] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: open gparted and format the disk with ext4
[13:56] <ubuntufreak21> k
[13:57] <vlt> babu: Just enter your gmail XMPP user name and gmail.com as server. Should work because gmail uses jabber/XMPP protocol.
[13:57] <ubuntufreak21> i still cant format
[13:57] <ubuntufreak21> anything
[13:57] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: you need to give details
[13:57] <ubuntufreak21> permisiion denied
[13:58] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: how did you launch gparted ?
[13:58] <ubuntufreak21> from synaptic package manager
[13:58] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: no, you don't launch software from the package manager, so I'll ask again how did you launch it
[13:59] <edbian> ubuntufreak21: synaptic is not used to launch (start) programs.  It's used to install programs from the repos.
[14:00] <vlt> babu: Jabber IS XMPP, so just enter your accoutn data.
[14:00] <ubuntufreak21> i searched gparted partition manager in synaptics installed it and searches for it on computer and launched it
[14:00] <edbian> ubuntufreak21: How did you 'search for it on the computer.' ?
[14:00] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: tell you what, open a terminal and type "gksudo gparted"
[14:00] <ikonia> edbian: I can't be bothered, lets just cut to the chase
[14:01] <edbian> ikonia: I love the chase.
[14:01]  * edbian is curious how one gets gparted to open without root privs
[14:02] <lapaga> gksu
[14:02] <damno> edbian: is that possible??
[14:02] <ubuntufreak21> it brings me back to the same thing lol
[14:02] <edbian> damno: I don't think so :)
[14:02] <ubuntufreak21> to the same gparted lol
[14:02] <bloo> lol
[14:03] <edbian> ubuntufreak21: Are you miss typing your password?
[14:03] <ubuntufreak21> no
[14:03] <damno> edbian: but why would you want to do that?
[14:04] <ubuntufreak21> nope
[14:04] <edbian> damno: Perhaps you just wanna look at your hdd partitions and not edit them and you don't have root privs?  I don't think he should be doing that in this case.
[14:04] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: is the usb disk mounted ?
[14:04] <ubuntufreak21> one is
[14:04] <ubuntufreak21> but not the rest
[14:04] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: is the one you are trying to format mounted
[14:04] <ubuntufreak21> yes
[14:04] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: I told you it has to be unmounted
[14:04] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: you need to start listening and paying attention to what you are doing and being told to do
[14:04] <damno> edbian: then just use the disk usage analyzer from the accessories menu
[14:05] <ubuntufreak21> i tried to do that but it keeps saying permission denied!
[14:05] <edbian> damno: good point!  :P
[14:05] <damno> edbian: :)
[14:05] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: I told you to reboot, and then do it
[14:05] <vlt> ubuntufreak21: What EXACTLY did you do/try?
[14:05] <ubuntufreak21> i did
[14:05] <aborady> i got these errors in apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/641345/
[14:05] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: ok - so did it unmount ?
[14:05] <edbian> ikonia: patience :)
[14:05] <edbian> aborady: reading
[14:05] <ubuntufreak21> wait im sorry permission is not denied
[14:06] <ubuntufreak21> it says ineed to unmount manually
[14:06] <edbian> aborady: This happens occasionally.  You want the fix, the explanation, both, or neither?
[14:06] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: ok do that
[14:06] <aborady> how can i get this fix ?
[14:06] <ubuntufreak21> what are the syntax commands
[14:07] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: sudo mount /media/$disk_name
[14:07] <edbian> aborady: sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[14:07] <ikonia> aborady: remove that repo
[14:07] <edbian> aborady: the sudo apt-get update   and things should be back to normal
[14:08] <JayVan> Question: how can I get the window snapping feature of Natty in Maverick? already tried Grid in compiz didnt like it
[14:08] <aborady> it happened before and i think wrote that before
[14:08] <aborady> what i've to do to prevent that to happen again
[14:08] <ikonia> aborady: remove that repo
[14:08] <edbian> JayVan: It's part of wobbly windows or window snap (they are mutually exclusive
[14:08] <edbian> aborady: remove that repo
[14:08] <aborady> ok i did , now updating
[14:09] <JayVan> edbian, cant seem to find that feature in Compiz in maverick. is it part of unity in Natty?
[14:09] <ubuntufreak21> it came to this /media is not a block device
[14:09] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: what did I tell you to do
[14:10] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: what command did I tell you to use
[14:10] <ubuntufreak21> this is so hilarious ha ha
[14:10] <hendaus> hi
[14:10] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: no - it's actually not
[14:10] <edbian> JayVan: Wobbly has been around for a long time.  I'm sure it's there.    It says "An error occurred while mount: Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[14:11] <ubuntufreak21> read it and find out
[14:11] <Reighnakj> edbian*
[14:11] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: sudo umount /dev/disk_name
[14:11] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: run that command
[14:12] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: replace "disk_name" with the name of the disk that is mounted
[14:12] <hendaus> edbian: an error occured,Could not determine type of stream
[14:12] <ubuntufreak21> ok i know that
[14:12] <dancerfire> can i clone my os over to another hdd?
[14:12] <edbian> hendaus: not sure.  Do you have gstreamer-plugins-bad and gstreamer-plugins-ugly installed?
[14:12] <edbian> dancerfire: yes
[14:12] <vlt> dancerfire: Yes.
[14:12] <edbian> Reighnakj: reading
[14:12] <Reighnakj> edbian:  I edited /etc/fstab last night, which I think did this.
[14:12] <ubuntufreak21> k
[14:12] <edbian> Reighnakj: Almost def.  Do you have a live CD ?
[14:12] <dancerfire> rephrase: how?
[14:12] <Andrew131> Sorry for off topic question:  Do any of you cycle to work?
[14:13] <hendaus> edbian:  wait let me see
[14:13] <Reighnakj> Is that a CD that I burned the ISO to?
[14:13] <ikonia> Andrew131: please don't ask offtopic questions in here
[14:13] <bazhang> !ot > Andrew131
[14:13] <vlt> !ot | Andrew131
[14:13] <edbian> hendaus: sure
[14:13] <Andrew131> sorry
[14:13] <Reighnakj> edbian: is live CD the CD I burned the ISO to?
[14:13] <edbian> Reighnakj: yes.  Remember to use my  name like I'm doing for you.
[14:13] <edbian> Reighnakj: yes
[14:13] <Reighnakj> edbian: yes, I do.
[14:13] <edbian> Andrew131: I computer to work.
[14:14] <Andrew131> edbian, pm
[14:14] <Reighnakj> edbian:  I don't want to have to reformat ubuntu though becuase I spent like 2 or 3 hours downloading WoW to it last night.
[14:14] <ubuntufreak21> it says this sudo apt-get install udo
[14:14] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: what ?
[14:14] <Reighnakj> edbian: Will your method of what your thinking just fix my problem?
[14:14] <dancerfire> so how would i clone ubuntu over to another hdd?
[14:14] <ubuntufreak21> sorry
[14:14] <edbian> Reighnakj: We'll just fix fstab.  Boot the live CD :)
[14:14] <robin0800> Reighnakj, did you run sudo update-grub
[14:14] <edbian> Reighnakj: If you follow my instructions carefully this will not take long.
[14:15] <hendaus> edbian:  how can i see brother coz i am newbie and i am using the natty version
[14:15] <edbian> hendaus: brother?
[14:15] <Reighnakj> edbian: booting from CD now.
[14:15] <edbian> Reighnakj: nervously waiting
[14:15] <ubuntufreak21> actually it said this udo: unmount: command not found
[14:15] <Andrew131> On topic question is it possible to use the HDMI port with an nvidia optimus card?  Best I can tell no
[14:15] <qin> ubuntufreak21: umount
[14:15] <edbian> ubuntufreak21: It's umount
[14:15] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: look at the command I gave you
[14:15] <ikonia> 15:11 < ikonia> ubuntufreak21: sudo umount /dev/disk_name
[14:16] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: "sudo" - not "udo" and "umount" not "unmount"
[14:16] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: I've told you this many times now, please pay attentiopn
[14:16] <Reighnakj> edbian: it would help if I had the CD in the CD-ROM.
[14:16] <ubuntufreak21> i did put that sudo unmount /dev/Kingston
[14:16] <ubuntufreak21> but it keeps saying udo
[14:16] <edbian> Reighnakj: That would be nice :)
[14:16] <ubuntufreak21> lol
[14:16] <oCean> ubuntufreak21: umount not unmount
[14:16] <vlt> 16:10 < ikonia> ubuntufreak21: it's getting really annoying that you can't follow instructions or listen to what's been said
[14:16] <edbian> wow
[14:16] <ubuntufreak21> oh
[14:17] <hendaus> edbian:  ok just for respect
[14:17] <edbian> hendaus: ?
[14:17] <ikonia> ubuntufreak21: the command is "sudo" not "udo" and the command is "umount" not "unmount"
[14:17] <edbian> hendaus: I have no idea what you're talking about.
[14:17] <ubuntufreak21> udo unmount /dev/Kingston
[14:17] <ubuntufreak21> sudo: unmount: command not found
[14:17] <Reighnakj> edbian: I am at a screen with an icon = and another icon
[14:17] <edbian> ubuntufreak21: Are you kidding?
[14:17] <edbian> Reighnakj: ... That's vague?
[14:18] <qin> ubuntufreak21: *umount*
[14:18] <edbian> Reighnakj: What do these icons represent?
[14:18] <Reighnakj> edbian one is a rectangle looking brief case and the other is a stick person in a circle.
[14:18] <hendaus> edbian:  you told me to see if gstreamer-plugins... are installed , i told you i am newbie where can i see if the plugin installed or not
[14:19] <Reighnakj> edbian: there, it moved passed that screen.
[14:19] <edbian> Reighnakj: Oh.  The CD is still booting.  That is the infamous stick man screen.  It means 'press the keyboard to get to human interaction'
[14:19] <edbian> It is horribly vauge, not your fault.
[14:19] <savr> nihow
[14:19]  * vlt sends ikonia a cup of tea.
[14:19] <red_rail> whats the best irc client for untuntu that i can get with apt-get
[14:19] <savr> chinese?
[14:19] <edbian> hendaus: You can search them in synaptic.  green boxes mean installed :)
[14:19] <bazhang> red_rail, there is not a best
[14:19] <oCean> !best | red_rail
[14:19] <vlt> !best | red_rail
[14:19] <edbian> hendaus: Why did you say brother?
[14:19] <bazhang> !cn | savr
[14:19] <cdavis> Are there any repositories that contain the last versions of jaunty packages?
[14:19] <Reighnakj> edbian: this is where I have always gotten stuck when I boot from CD.  I am now at the ubuntu loading screen.
[14:20] <savr> LOL
[14:20] <hendaus> edbian:  forget it :)
[14:20] <bazhang> red_rail, xchat irssi quassel weechat and others are there. choose one from the package manager and decide
[14:20] <edbian> Reighnakj: The CD gets stuck too?  I thought you said the HDD install would get stuck?  How did you install Ubuntu?
[14:20] <edbian> hendaus: :)
[14:20] <red_rail> thanks
[14:21]  * edbian thinks ubuntufreak21 was a troll
[14:21] <mnemonic76> Is there a way to install ubuntu 11.04 from the livecd without using the Ubiquity installer? A manual way from terminal maybe?
[14:21] <Reighnakj> edbian: I was trying to boot from disc and load it that way so it would take all the memory on my HD (I assumed) but I had to download it from my Windows XP environment.
[14:21] <oCean> cdavis: since jaunty is EOL, repositories have been moved, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[14:21] <Reighnakj> edbian:  it normally just sits at the ubuntu loading cd for a looooooooooong time  with the dots moving.
[14:21] <edbian> Reighnakj: I think you installed using wubi.
[14:22] <edbian> Reighnakj: You installed from inside windows?
[14:22] <mnemonic76> edbian: He was on for hours last nite asking the same kinds of questions.. he got impatient and insulted someone, then felt bad and apollogised. I think he's a young kid.
[14:22] <edbian> mnemonic76: thanks
[14:22] <Reighnakj> edbian: I installed from my laptop with Windows 7.
[14:22] <Reighnakj> edbian: wait...
[14:22] <edbian> Reighnakj: Yeah.  So you've never booted a liveCD or liveUSB
[14:22] <edbian> Reighnakj: waiting :)
[14:22] <Reighnakj> edbian: I downloaded it from Windows 7 and burned it to a disk on Windows 7.
[14:23] <cdavis> oCean: Thanks but I don't want to upgrade. I need to install Jaunty with bacula for a test.
[14:23] <hendaus> edbian:  yes are installed
[14:23] <oCean> cdavis: have you read the link I sent?
[14:23] <edbian> Reighnakj: Ok.  So then you put the CD in the drive and booted it?  (You're implying conflicting things)
[14:23] <aborady> thnx  removing the repo success
[14:23] <cdavis> oCean: I read the first paragraph or two, it talked about why upgrade and how to do it....I will go re-read it
[14:24] <aborady> thaaaank you everybody
[14:24] <Reighnakj> edbian:  I tried to do that, but it would just sit at the screen with the loading dots too long.
[14:24] <edbian> hendaus: I'm not sure then.  Try using VLC
[14:24] <ron__> i've a wireless card but i don't know where to get drivers from. any help?
[14:24] <Reighnakj> edbian: So, I stopped trying that and just ran the CD in Windows XP.
[14:24] <oCean> cdavis: it explains that eol repositories are available in a new url e.g. old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[14:24] <edbian> Reighnakj: Ok.  So you're never gotten a liveCD to boot. Do you have windows7 and windowsxp ?
[14:25] <Reighnakj> edbian: The machine I am trying to put ubuntu on has XP.
[14:25] <ron34563654> i've a wireless card but i don't know where to get drivers from. any help?
[14:25] <ron34563654> this chat isn't workng
[14:25] <edbian> Reighnakj: The laptop has windows 7 (that laptop that created the liveCD)  is that right?
[14:25] <Reighnakj> edbian: Should I log onto Windows XP and download ubuntu from there and make the CD on that desktop?
[14:25] <edbian> Reighnakj: I understand now I think.  You installed using wubi on your windows xp machine
[14:26] <Reighnakj> edbian: what is wubi?
[14:26] <edbian> Reighnakj: The OS is likely not the cause of the problem. (win 7 or xp) LiveCDs sometimes don't like to boot because the CD has errors on it.  From dust or from the burn or from the ISO originally.
[14:26] <Dynamit> wubi is windows installer for ubuntu
[14:26] <edbian> Reighnakj: wubi is software that lets you install Ubuntu from inside windows.  It does not require y ou to boot a liveCD
[14:27] <Dynamit> that install virtual harddriver and let's select windows or Ubuntu on boot
[14:27] <edbian> Reighnakj: If you used wubi you have 'ubuntu' as an installed program in add/remove on windows.
[14:27] <vlt> ron34563654: What client do you use?
[14:27] <Reighnakj> Dynamit: edbian:  I just opened mycomputer and right clicked the E: drive and did auto play.
[14:27] <Reighnakj> then the installer poped up.
[14:27] <edbian> Reighnakj: That's wubi
[14:28] <Reighnakj> edbian:  when I try to boot from disk though, it just sits at the ubuntu screen.  Is wubi a bad thing?
[14:28] <edbian> Reighnakj: Wubi is not *bad* it just often complicates things.  Like right now I'm not sure I could fix your fstab from memory.
[14:28] <cdavis> oCean: Thank you
[14:28] <Reighnakj> Dynamit: I have to select that everytime I start my computer.
[14:29] <george__> anyone here play quake live?
[14:29] <edbian> I just accidentally detached this room from xchat.  How do I re-attach it??
[14:29] <edbian> Reighnakj: anywho.  Fixing it might be hard.  Can you talk to me while you try to boot ubuntu (from the hdd) of the target machine?
[14:29] <edbian> nevermind, figured out the attach thing
[14:30] <Reighnakj> edbian: update....
[14:30] <edbian> Reighnakj: update?
[14:30] <Reighnakj> edbian:  After letting the ubuntu loading screen go for a while, I have an error.
[14:30] <Reighnakj> edbian:  Let me pastebin it.
[14:30] <edbian> Reighnakj: I/O error <number> sr0 ?
[14:30]  * Dynamit is away: äter
[14:31] <edbian> mneptok: Not so young he can't pastebin! :)
[14:31] <savr> nihow
[14:31] <oCean> !afk > Dynamit
[14:31] <bazhang> savr, stop that
[14:31] <savr> japanese?
[14:31] <savr> ok
[14:31] <Alan502> Hi! I have some questions relating to windows server and ubuntu, can someone help me?
[14:32] <dancerfire> !ask | Alan502
[14:32] <Reighnakj> edbian: http://pastebin.com/95btt5Jd
[14:33] <Alan502> Well, is ubuntu compatible with windows server networks like macintosh machines?
[14:33] <Reighnakj> edbian: "Udevd[76]: worker [167] unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100"
[14:33] <edbian> Reighnakj: Yeah it had trouble reading the CD.  I don't wanna bother with the CD.  Can you try to boot Ubuntu on the target machine (from the hdd) and still talk to me at the same time?  I wanna try to do the manual thing together
[14:33] <edbian> Reighnakj: Forget these errors
[14:33] <Reighnakj> Yes
[14:33] <Reighnakj> edbian
[14:33] <edbian> Reighnakj: great, do it
[14:34] <Reighnakj> edbian: normal or recovery mode?
[14:34] <edbian> Reighnakj: try recovery mode!  Does it work?
[14:35] <Reighnakj> edbian: no.
[14:35] <Guest2466> hello everybody!
[14:35] <Reighnakj> edbian: it says an error while mount press s or m.
[14:35] <edbian> Reighnakj: what is s and what is m?
[14:35] <vlt> Alan502: I think you need to be more specific.
[14:35] <Reighnakj> edbian: Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery.
[14:36] <Alan502> vlt, thanks, but I'm not really familiar with Windows Server myself :P
[14:36] <Bipul> have any one use this service http://www.asterisk.org/ on ubuntu
[14:36] <edbian> Reighnakj: What happens with S ?  (can't imagine it's ok to skip any mounting)
[14:36] <Reighnakj> edbian: there is an error above that... "WARNING: bad format on line 10 of /etc/fstab"
[14:36] <Alan502> maybe if I explain my problem more clearly
[14:36] <vlt> Bipul: Service?
[14:36] <Bipul> like VoIP Calls
[14:36] <Reighnakj> edbian: S got me to the recovery menu.
[14:36] <edbian> Reighnakj: You editing /etc/fstab is the problem.
[14:37] <edbian> Reighnakj: what is the recovery menu like?
[14:37] <etel> Does anyone here have experience with tf (Tiny Fugue)? I'm having problems compiling it with the SOCKS option.
[14:37] <Alan502> I'm going to a school where they use windows server for file sharing, e-mail and other purposes; AFAIK both windows machines and macintosh machines are compatible with their configuration but I'd like to know if ubuntu is compatible as well?
[14:37] <vlt> Bipul: What do you actually want to know?
[14:37] <Reighnakj> edbian: Menu:  resume "resume normal boot", clean "try to make free space" dpkg"repair broiken packages"
[14:37] <Reighnakj> ...
[14:37] <Bipul> vlt,  can i pm you
[14:37] <vlt> Alan502: That's hard to answer if the question is that unspecific.
[14:37] <vlt> !pm | Bipul
[14:38] <Reighnakj> edbian: failsafeX"run in failsafe graphic mode" fsck "reboot into file system check"
[14:38] <edbian> Reighnakj: What's the last option?  drop to root root
[14:38] <Alan502> Yes, I'm not being clear enough.
[14:38] <Reighnakj> edbian: yes
[14:38] <edbian> Reighnakj: do that one
[14:38] <oCean> Bipul: there is a specific #asterisk channel
[14:38] <Bipul> i want's to  setup a Open SOurce Communication on my ubuntu
[14:38] <Reighnakj> edbian: k
[14:38] <vlt> Alan502: Ubuntu can mount file shares. Ubuntu can connect to an IMAP server.
[14:38] <edbian> Reighnakj: Perhaps we can use that to edit /etc/fstab so it's correct again
[14:38] <Guest2466> im a brazilian user of ubuntu :) hello people
[14:38] <Reighnakj> edbian: vi /etc/fstab?
[14:38] <etel> Anyone with experience with tf?
[14:38] <Alan502> But, what is compatible and what is not compatible from ubuntu to windows server?
[14:39] <edbian> Reighnakj: ugh, nano /etc/fstab
[14:39] <Reighnakj> edbian: :-P
[14:39] <vlt> !anyone | etel
[14:39] <edbian> Anybody have a working wubi /etc/fstab please!?  :)
[14:39] <Reighnakj> edbian: in.
[14:39] <edbian> Reighnakj: great!
[14:39] <edbian> Reighnakj: editing that file?
[14:39] <Reighnakj> edbian: Yes.
[14:39] <edbian> Reighnakj: What were you trying to accomplish by editing this file in the first place?
[14:39] <etel> thank you vit. I did previously.
[14:40] <Reighnakj> edbian:  I was trying to add a swapfile to give more memory to ubuntu so WoW could run.
[14:40] <vlt> Alan502: To answer that I think we'll have to create a list of single features and see if it's supported somehow or not.
[14:40] <Alan502> perhaps what are the "main features" that are not supported?
[14:40] <edbian> Reighnakj: a-ha  What does /etc/fstab look like right now? can you pastebin it?
[14:40] <Reighnakj> edbian: give me a minute.
[14:40] <edbian> Reighnakj: take your time
[14:41] <sublime> Hi, rhin0 tells me that it is better to use python for shell scripting than a scripting language like bash or csh. Is this true?
[14:41] <vlt> !who | Alan502
[14:41] <rhin0> i said it *may* be -- in  some circumstances
[14:41] <edbian> Reighnakj: do the errors say what is wrong with /etc/fstab?  Like which partitions are not mounting or line numbers or anything?
[14:41] <Alan502> vlt, perhaps what are the "main features" that are not supported?
[14:41] <vlt> Alan502: I don't know. Name a feature and we'll see ;-)
[14:41]  * rhin0 pokes sublime in the eye, deliberately
[14:42] <Alan502> Hahaha, that's the thing! but thanks
[14:42] <rhin0> good thing about python is its always there and has its own shell -- can even replace the bash shell (idle)
[14:42] <Reighnakj> http://pastebin.com/tL2ZHLyF
[14:43] <Reighnakj> edbian^
[14:43] <oCean> sublime: There is no single "best". Each has its uses.
[14:43] <Reighnakj> edbian: I can't remember.
[14:43] <sublime> rhin0, python is NOT a replacement for sehll scripting
[14:43] <edbian> Reighnakj: ok
[14:43] <Reighnakj> edbian: I am concerned with the last three lines actually.
[14:43] <sublime> oCean, of course. I am asking specifically about shell scripting
[14:43] <edbian> Reighnakj: reading...
[14:44] <Reighnakj> edbian: the first one looks like it should say "/host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk/" where it is missing a "h" and has an extra " "
[14:44] <edbian> well there is an unnecessary enter in there
[14:44] <edbian> The last two should be one line
[14:44] <apple> is there any program in ubuntu that is an offline journal and lets me import old blogger entries into it?
[14:44] <oCean> sublime: it depends on what you want to do. It's quite a generic discussion, so you might also try the relevant channels and/or ##linux
[14:44] <Reighnakj> edbian: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[14:44] <edbian> hang on
[14:45] <Reighnakj> edbian:  is there anyway to undo all that and get my /etc/fstab/ back to normal?
[14:45] <Reighnakj> edbian: I still really don't even know what that did.
[14:45] <bastidrazor> !swap | Reighnakj ::this guide is the best
[14:45] <edbian> Reighnakj: Is there a /etc/fstab.bak or something like that?
[14:46] <Reighnakj> edbian: I dought it.
[14:46] <edbian> Reighnakj: Unless you made it manually there will not be one
[14:46] <Reighnakj> edbian: no.
[14:47] <edbian> Reighnakj: Ok.  Hang on. I'm editing the /etc/fstab
[14:47] <Reighnakj> edbian: vi was giving me a hard time so I may have messed up more than just entering the last line.
[14:47] <Reighnakj> edbian: Plus, it is a read-only file now, I think.
[14:48] <edbian> Reighnakj: http://pastebin.com/wYTxwAL3
[14:49] <edbian> Reighnakj: I think that is correct.  Remember to put that h back on the second line.  If you can't edit / save do sudo nano /etc/fstab   (but you're root so you should be able to edit)
[14:49] <Reighnakj> edbian: Before that... at the bottom of nano, it says "[ Read 12 lines (Warning: No write permission) ]"
[14:49] <Reighnakj> edbian: i'll try sudo.
[14:49] <edbian> Reighnakj: strange.  exit nano and use nano
[14:49] <edbian> Reighnakj: exit nano and use sudo nano*
[14:50] <Reighnakj> edbian: that gave me a blank file.
[14:50] <edbian> Reighnakj: sudo nano /etc/fstab   of course :)
[14:50] <Reighnakj> edbian: why?
[14:50] <edbian> Reighnakj: To edit the file as root so we have writing permission
[14:50] <Reighnakj> edbian: sudo nano /etc/fstab/*
[14:51] <edbian> Reighnakj: sudo nano /etc/fstab/      is the command
[14:51] <edbian> :P
[14:51] <Reighnakj> edbian: so this will overwrite the old file?
[14:51] <Reighnakj> edbian: it has no text when I do that command.
[14:51] <edbian> Reighnakj: no
[14:51] <edbian> Reighnakj: what...
[14:51] <edbian> Reighnakj: Are you making a typo?
[14:51] <oCean> edbian: Reighnakj remove the trailing slash
[14:51] <bastidrazor> Reighnakj: drop the trialing /
[14:51] <edbian> oCean: thanks
[14:51] <Reighnakj> blah
[14:51] <Reighnakj> lol
[14:52] <edbian> Reighnakj: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[14:52] <edbian> :)
[14:52]  * edbian puts his hair back in his head.
[14:52] <Reighnakj> edbian: I don't know why you have to do that with sudo, but ok.
[14:52] <Reighnakj> edbian: I need a guide that tells me all the basic commands still.
[14:52] <xangua> ...
[14:52] <edbian> Reighnakj: Me either.  We're in a root shell so we shouldn't have to sudo anything at all.
[14:52] <edbian> Reighnakj: sudo -> makes you root  nano -> text editor
[14:53] <Reighnakj> edbian: I am in.
[14:53] <Reighnakj> edbian:  Let me try what you gave me.
[14:53] <edbian> Reighnakj: great
[14:53] <edbian> It's an educated guess.  I'm not sure the file is correct
[14:54] <edbian> There was a trailing period on the third line that was very confusing.
[14:54] <Reighnakj> edbian: what about the space after root.disk
[14:54] <hendaus> can anyone tell  me what codecs needs to play a .mkv file on natty plz!
[14:54] <edbian> Reighnakj: that space is fine.  It's actually a tab
[14:54] <edbian> Reighnakj: The file is a table.  The columns are listed at the top.
[14:55] <edbian> Reighnakj: file system, mount point, type
[14:55] <edbian> Reighnakj: get it?
[14:55] <Reighnakj> yes
[14:55] <edbian> Reighnakj: :)
[14:55] <Reighnakj> edbian: "[ Error writing /etc/fstab: Read-only file system ]"
[14:55] <Reighnakj> edbian: that was from me trying to exit and save.
[14:55] <edbian> Reighnakj: oohhhh, maybe the whole OS is read only right now.
[14:55] <edbian> arrrgghgh
[14:56] <edbian> Reighnakj: So I can now see the error but we cannot change the file.
[14:56] <Northernen> How can one remove launcher from the Unity side bar?
[14:56] <Bipul> can i able to install Asterisk Linux Ubuntu 10.10
[14:56] <xangua> whole system read only o_O ......
[14:56] <xangua> Northernen: drag it out¿¿
[14:56] <dancerfire> is there a native application for MTP devices in ubuntu?
[14:56] <Reighnakj> edbian: could it have been from the command I entered off http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/?
[14:57] <Northernen> xangua, doesn't work.
[14:57] <Reighnakj> commands*
[14:57] <xangua> Northernen: mmm right clic remove¿ sorry don't use unity
[14:57] <hendaus> can anyone tell me what codecs needs to play a .mkv file on natty plz...
[14:57] <Northernen> It is proper rubbish. I'm going gnome3.
[14:57] <xangua> hendaus: already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ¿
[14:57] <xangua> or try vlc hendaus
[14:57] <edbian> Reighnakj: The recovery mode we're in won't let us save the file edits.  I'm still not 100% sure what is wrong with the actual file.
[14:57] <codename09> I cant seem to turn on the compiz effects on ubuntu 11.04 .. i installed compizsettingmanager (as always) but still no luck !
[14:58] <edbian> Reighnakj: Can you create a liveUSB ?
[14:58] <Reighnakj> edbian: are you accepting defeat?
[14:58] <edbian> Reighnakj: heck no
[14:58] <Reighnakj> edbian: I do not have a 720mb USB stick, no.
[14:58] <edbian> Reighnakj: alright...
[14:58] <xangua> codename09: what's the output of¿: compiz --replace &
[14:58] <edbian> Reighnakj: Lemme think then.
[14:58] <Reighnakj> edbian: should I go buy one?
[14:58] <hendaus> xangua:  yes i install it now and the mkv file shows: an error occured,
[14:58] <edbian> Reighnakj: ha, no
[14:59] <hendaus> xangua:  Could not determine type of stream.
[14:59] <Reighnakj> edbian:  while you think, I will go look around my house.  I know I got one from school, but I dought it is that big.
[14:59] <superlou> Does anyone else have a wierd torn background/rendering issue when first logging in to 11.04 (disappears after first mouse click/key press)?
[14:59] <xangua> hendaus: maybe the file is corrupted
[14:59] <hendaus> xangua:  i install vlc and cannot play it
[14:59] <edbian> Reighnakj: How many Ubuntu CD's have you made?
[15:00] <codename09> xangua: its a long out put ... should i paste it on here ?
[15:00] <hendaus> xangua:  :(
[15:00] <xangua> !paste | codename09
[15:00] <xangua> of course not.....
[15:01] <Reighnakj> edbian like 4.
[15:01] <edbian> Reighnakj: you there?
[15:01] <edbian> Reighnakj: Everytime same problem?
[15:02] <Trfsrfr> Can I still get a download for 10.10?
[15:02] <codename09> !paste | [1] 4284
[15:02] <Reighnakj> edbian: yes.  With the final one I used a ISO burner other than the windows 7 one.
[15:02] <codename09> nos@olympians:~$ Backend     : gconf
[15:02] <codename09> Integration : true
[15:02] <codename09> Profile     : default
[15:02] <codename09> Adding plugins
[15:02] <codename09> Initializing core options...done
[15:02] <FloodBot1> codename09: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:02] <Reighnakj> edbian: And installed it alongside windows instead of booting from CD to load it.
[15:02] <edbian> Reighnakj: And you get the same errors on all of them huh...
[15:02] <edbian> Reighnakj: I usually recommend liveUSB because they don't have so many issues.
[15:02] <Reighnakj> edbian: it just won't go past the ubuntu loading screen.
[15:02] <edbian> Reighnakj: mhmm
[15:03] <edbian> Reighnakj: Let's try pressing m
[15:03] <Reighnakj> edbian:  someone mentioned I should maybe go into XP and update all my drivers first
[15:03] <Reighnakj> edbian: ok.
[15:03] <edbian> Reighnakj: That is absolutely not going to help anything
[15:03] <edbian> Reighnakj: The problem is almost def the missing h
[15:03] <edbian> perhaps more
[15:04] <codename09> sorry i flooded it ... edbain: can you tell me how to paste it on here again ?1
[15:04] <Reighnakj> edbian: normal or recovery?
[15:04] <edbian> Reighnakj: I thought S brought up normal / recovery?
[15:05] <edbian> codename09: paste.ubuntu.com
[15:05] <codename09> oh ! thanks ...
[15:05] <edbian> sure
[15:05] <Reighnakj> edbian: after I select ubuntu from the wubi, I can select ubuntu normal or ubuntu recovory.
[15:05] <edbian> Reighnakj: What happened to this s / m screen?
[15:06] <Reighnakj> edbian:  I did normal, and now I am at the ubuntu loading screen, where I can press s / m
[15:06] <edbian> Reighnakj: ahhh,  s means what again?  I remember m is manual
[15:06] <Trfsrfr> I cant play a newer DVD. I went to install ubuntu restricted extra's, and it says I must remove Libav codec utility. Any advice here?
[15:06] <Reighnakj> skip
[15:06] <Reighnakj> skip the mount
[15:06] <edbian> Reighnakj: which does not work I expect
[15:06] <codename09> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/641372/
[15:06] <mrdeb> Trfsrfr: you need libdvdcss2
[15:07] <Reighnakj> edbian: I pressed M
[15:07] <vlt> Trfsrfr: Some DVDs are encrypted
[15:07] <mrdeb> but you need license for it
[15:07] <edbian> codename09: What are you trying to do?  Why are you showing me this?
[15:07] <edbian> Reighnakj: great.  What does it say
[15:07] <Reighnakj> edbian:  I will pastebin
[15:07] <edbian> Reighnakj: ok
[15:07] <edbian> Reighnakj: How are you pastebining ?
[15:07] <mrdeb> does anyone know how to install video codecs without using more than 100mb and playe
[15:07] <Trfsrfr> So I wont be able to watch some dvd's?
[15:07] <mrdeb> ?
[15:07] <mrdeb> Trfsrfr: no, yoy can wtach all of them i you intsall dvdcss2 from medubuntu
[15:07] <edbian> mrdeb: use vlc, don't install codecs
[15:08] <codename09> edbian: oh i thought you asked for the output of the compiz --replace & command
[15:08] <edbian> codename09: nope :)  What are you trying to do ?
[15:08] <mrdeb> edbian: vlc takes another 270mb if i install it on this disk. my whoe install right now is 900mb
[15:08] <vlt> Trfsrfr: You could install a lib that decrypts the css. Available on medibuntu.org
[15:08] <edbian> mrdeb: I don't know.  get a bigger partition?
[15:08] <mrdeb> edbian: i have the disk space, but i like seeing it under 1gb
[15:08] <mrdeb> ok?
[15:09] <mrdeb> it is a magic no
[15:09] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | Trfsrfr
[15:09] <qin> hm, ffmped do *not* have vhook, why?
[15:09] <codename09> edbian: lol .. i am having problem using compiz .. i installed compizsettingmanager (As alwyas) but still no luck !
[15:09] <Trfsrfr> vlt, i'll look into that, thx.
[15:09] <qin> *ffmpeg
[15:09] <edbian> codename09: What card / driver are you using?
[15:09] <Reighnakj> edbian: http://pastebin.com/srk03Y82
[15:09] <edbian> Reighnakj: How are you pastebining ?
[15:09] <codename09> edbian: well i dont have a graphic card ..:(
[15:09] <ehnde> i'm having a problem where i have 2 default routes. how do i fix this? (i have 4 network cards all plugged into a switch)
[15:10] <Reighnakj> edbian: typing it into paste bin.
[15:10] <Reighnakj> edbian: reading it off one monitor and typing it into another.
[15:10] <edbian> Reighnakj: later we'll try to install pastebinit  (much easier)
[15:10] <codename09> but i think it worked on previous version .. i m using 11.04 now
[15:10] <edbian> Reighnakj: anywho. at that shell can you nano /etc/fstab    ?
[15:10] <edbian> codename09: I'm not sure then :(
[15:10] <Reighnakj> edbian: yes.
[15:11] <edbian> Reighnakj: Can you edit the file and save the changes?
[15:11] <codename09> edbian: thanks anyway !
[15:11] <Reighnakj> edbian: same error, read-only file system.
[15:11] <edbian> codename09: good luck!!!
[15:11] <edbian> Reighnakj: Well then what is the point of this shell!?!?
[15:11] <Crupulus> Hey, on LXDE, where can I change the keyboard layout ? can't find where :/ Thx
[15:11] <edbian> :(
[15:12] <codename09> edbian: can i just troubleshoot that anywhere else ?! i mean on a different channel ?
[15:12] <edbian> Reighnakj: I don't think we can do this without booting a liveCD or a liveUSB.
[15:12] <edbian> codename09: There is a #compiz
[15:12] <Reighnakj> edbian: do I need to change my swapfile from swapfile1 back to just swap?
[15:13] <codename09> edbain: okay ... thanks for helpin.
[15:13] <edbian> Reighnakj: That's not necessarily the issue.  I think the issue is the missing h.  Not that it matters, I can't find a way to edit that file.
[15:13] <Reighnakj> edbain: do "# dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile1 bs=1024 count=524288" but back to default?
[15:13] <Reighnakj> edbian: ok.
[15:14] <Reighnakj> edbian: to edit it, I used vi.  I didn't know how to use vi so I was just pressing buttons until I could write.
[15:14] <Reighnakj> edbian: I probably delete the h and changed it to read only.  Plus, I could have messed other things up.
[15:14] <gbili> hello, does anyone know why there is a vertical shrink all across a horizontal line in my display? is this because of ubuntu
[15:14] <edbian> Reighnakj: That command with blank the swap file.  I don't think that will help.
[15:14] <edbian> Reighnakj: yes that is clear :)  vi sucks.
[15:15] <Reighnakj> edbian: I wish I knew about nano before I did this...
[15:15] <edbian> Reighnakj: The reason the FS is read only is because the file is broken.  It is not the file that is marked read only.  It's the OS refusing to mount the partition as anything but read only.
[15:15] <edbian> Reighnakj: Booting a liveCD / liveUSB would fix this problem but we can't do that.
[15:15] <edbian> Reighnakj: That's ok.  Do you have important stuff saved? We could always just reinstall wubi
[15:15] <vlt> Reighnakj: You didn't know how to use it and that's why it sucks?
[15:16] <apple> I exported my blogger as an .xml, is there a program that I can view it offline with proper formatting?
[15:16] <apple> and not a jumble of text
[15:16] <Reighnakj> vlt: there is no menu with what commands you can do.
[15:16] <Crupulus> Hey, on LXDE, where can I change the keyboard layout ? can't find where :/ Thx
[15:16] <Reighnakj> edbian:  could I repair with wubi?
[15:16] <vlt> Reighnakj: But there's lots of documentaion.
[15:16] <bastidrazor> apple: scite may be just what you need.
[15:16] <Reighnakj> vlt: nano is just easy to use.
[15:16] <apple> bastidrazor: , thank you
[15:17] <Reighnakj> vlt: now that I am using it.
[15:17] <edbian> Reighnakj: The way I see it.  The only way to repair it is to use a liveUSB or liveCD
[15:17] <Reighnakj> vlt:  I probably shoudl have read up on vi before, though.
[15:17] <edbian> vlt: I said it sucks
[15:17] <Reighnakj> edbian: the only thing important on ubuntu right now is a 10gb download that I did last night.
[15:17] <Reighnakj> edbian: but I can redo it, I guess.
[15:18] <edbian> Reighnakj: You can get that 10Gb back (and maybe fix wubi) if you can boot a liveCD or liveUSB
[15:18] <vlt> Reighnakj: Oh sorry, edbian said that ;-)
[15:18] <edbian> vlt: and it does suck!
[15:18] <edbian> :P
[15:18] <mrdeb> edbian: i am now over 1gb. :/
[15:18] <edbian> Reighnakj: Perhaps you can try a different liveCD besides Ubuntu. There are others out there that are smaller and easier to get to boot
[15:18] <Reighnakj> edbian: is there anyway to use "mount *my mount thing*" command?
[15:18] <edbian> mrdeb: Are you making a liveCD?
[15:18] <vlt> edbian: In a good way. You meant sucks in a good way, right?
[15:19] <mrdeb> edbian: no
[15:19] <edbian> Reighnakj: I'm not sure...
[15:19] <edbian> vlt: ha, yeah sure
[15:19] <edbian> Reighnakj: maybe
[15:19] <Reighnakj> edbian: so what are you suggesting?
[15:19] <edbian> Reighnakj: hang on
[15:19] <Reighnakj> ok
[15:19] <edbian> Reighnakj: I have an idea :)
[15:19] <mrdeb> can i log in with live usb and dd the entire disk into a file on a usb stick to have a restore thing, and then back? will this copy back grub too
[15:19] <edbian> Reighnakj: Are in you in the root@ubuntu   shell  ??
[15:19] <Reighnakj> ues
[15:19] <Reighnakj> yes
[15:20] <Crupulus> Hey, on LXDE, where can I change the keyboard layout ? can't find where :/ Thx
[15:20] <edbian> mrdeb: no grub is in /boot/grub/   and the mbr (which wont't be copied)
[15:20] <mrdeb> edbian: how do i do the grub then also
[15:20] <edbian> Reighnakj: mount /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /
[15:20] <gbili> has anyone experienced an horizontal line in their monitor, where the display is shrinked vertically?
[15:20] <edbian> mrdeb: dd if=/dev/sda of=/mbr bs=512 c=1
[15:20] <edbian> mrdeb: I think :)
[15:21] <edbian> mrdeb: You need to grab the first 512 bytes.  You can confirm it's right by looking at the output file using the 'file' command.
[15:21] <mrdeb> edbian: so that will copy everything including grub to a restore file?
[15:21] <Reighnakj> edbian: after entering that: "mount: /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)"
[15:21] <edbian> mrdeb: That command I gave will only copy the grub bit that's int he mbr.  Nothing else
[15:21] <edbian> Reighnakj: sure give it -o loop  (this is a good sign)
[15:22] <mrdeb> so then to restore i would hae to dd the whole thing then dd again the grub
[15:22] <edbian> Reighnakj: mount -o loop /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk/ /
[15:22] <Reighnakj> you changed the ending?
[15:22] <edbian> mrdeb: To copy you dd twice once for grub once for the other partition.  The to restore you dd grub back to the mbr and the partition copy onto the new partition.
[15:22] <edbian> Reighnakj: I did not.  I added -o loop in there
[15:23] <mrdeb> oh i see
[15:23] <edbian> oh
[15:23] <edbian> so I did
[15:23] <edbian> Reighnakj: I added an extra /
[15:23] <Reighnakj> edbian: alright...
[15:23] <edbian> Reighnakj: mount -o loop /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /
[15:23] <Reighnakj> edbian: "mount" according to mtab /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk is already mounted on / as loop"
[15:23] <mrdeb> can you give me the command in pm again, the two commands to copy and restore, say to file RESTOREpart1 and RESTOREgrubmbr
[15:23] <edbian> Reighnakj: umount /
[15:24] <edbian> Reighnakj: that will unmount it. Then try my command again
[15:24] <Crupulus> Hey, on LXDE, where can I change the keyboard layout ? can't find where :/ Thx
[15:24] <Reighnakj> edbian: still says the same thing.
[15:24] <edbian> Reighnakj: umount /    says / is already mounted?
[15:24] <edbian> Umount ??
[15:24] <edbian> with a u?