[01:20] <rww> Hello. fujisan is ban-evading in #ubuntu-offtopic, per the following ban:
[01:20] <rww> 17:19:28 -!- 134 - #ubuntu-offtopic: ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[by bartol.freenode.net, 912563 secs ago]
[01:23] <rww> also:
[01:23] <rww> 17:19:28 -!- 86 - #ubuntu-offtopic: ban *!*@unaffiliated/fujisan [by bartol.freenode.net, 912563 secs ago]
[01:23] <rww> Thanks Seeker` :)
[01:32] <winXPuser> hello can I invite ubottu to my channel?
[01:32] <Seeker`> what channel would that be?
[01:33] <winXPuser> some unrelated to Ubuntu, one opensource project
[01:33] <winXPuser> so?
[01:33] <winXPuser> Seeker`: ^
[01:34] <fujisan> Can someone help me please?
[01:34] <winXPuser> ok help with what?
[01:34] <Seeker`> winXPuser: no, ubottu is only for Ubuntu core channels; I believe the source is available somewhere if you wish to host your own though
[01:35] <fujisan> It appears my old bans wont dissapear i have been hanging around ubuntu-nl and ubuntu-nl-offtopic for a long time now without getting banned on good behaviour why dont i get another chance in the other rooms
[01:36] <fujisan> i dont want to be the 'famous' troll anymore i have grownup will i ever get a chance to prove this
[01:36] <fujisan> or am i now some sort of victim of my adolescence?
[01:37] <fujisan> and Seeker`  i really didnt know the bans were still in place sorry i didnt left ubuntu-uk earlier i am a bit shocked
[01:37] <fujisan> to say the least of bans lasting this long
[01:38] <Seeker`> we typically have a policy of people having to speak to the op that banned them to get them removed, so that they actually gain an understanding of why they were banned
[01:39] <fujisan> with the amount of bans i had in the past i have no idea who set the bans
[01:39] <Seeker`> I have no idea who set them either
[01:39] <fujisan> i have an extremely bad reputation you have no idea
[01:39] <fujisan> any advise on what to do then?
[01:39] <knome> Seeker`, bot doesn't tell you that?
[01:39] <Seeker`> knome: depends, sometimes it does
[01:39] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[01:40] <Seeker`> @whoami
[01:40] <fujisan> i would just like to be unbanned in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel if possible
[01:40] <Seeker`> @login
[01:40] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[01:46] <Seeker`> it is just a little difficult to work out who exactly banned you last
[01:47] <Seeker`> as far as I can tell, ikonia in -ot
[01:47] <fujisan> okay
[01:47] <fujisan> well nvm then
[01:48] <fujisan> i will just accept that i am banned as long as he/she is admin , i know this person hates me with a passion
[01:48] <fujisan> ok bye
[01:49] <maco> O_o
[02:02] <elky> hi Paradox, can we help with something?
[02:02] <Paradox> hey, i have a question about the various supybot mods made for #ubuntu. Should i ask in some other channel? Basically i want to know whats newer. Niko's supybot-ircd-seven or https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak
[02:03] <elky> This is the first i've heard of supybot-ircd-seven. Is it in a VCS which you can compare timestamps to tsimpson's code?
[02:04] <Paradox> its on bzr too
[02:04] <Paradox> hold on a sec, let me get the url
[02:04] <Paradox> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr/+junk/supybot-ircd-seven
[02:04] <Paradox> i've been using it for quite a while, and niko has been most helpful
[02:05] <Paradox> but i want to look into forwarding plugins, ex .time > paradox would say Paradox: Time
[02:05] <elky> compare the dates under the "recent revisions" heading.
[02:05] <Paradox> i guess what i really meant to say was which one functions better
[02:07] <elky> Install both and compare against your specific needs?
[02:08] <elky> I can't answer to which is "better", as "better" isn't a definitive thing.
[02:08] <Paradox> well thanks for the help
[02:08] <Paradox> :)
[02:09] <tsimpson> they have different plugins, I don't really know anything about what ubotu-fr does differently, but ubottu runs code from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/devel (moved from https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak)
[02:10] <elky> tsimpson, you might want to make that more clear on the ~tsimpson page then
[02:10] <tsimpson> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-fr/+junk/supybot-ircd-seven seems to be a modified version of supybot
[02:12] <tsimpson> done
[02:17] <Paradox> what im really looking for is just the ability to redirect a command
[02:17] <Paradox> the best demonstration i can give is in #wordpress, you can run command > user
[02:18] <Paradox> and it highlights the user and displays the output of the command
[02:18] <Paradox> i tried to use an alias+echo
[02:18] <Paradox> but thats prone to abuse
[02:18] <tsimpson> we use Encyclopedia for that
[02:21] <elky> !bots | Paradox
[02:21] <elky> !hi > Paradox
[02:22] <elky> Which of those pieces of functionality is what you're talking about?
[02:24] <Paradox> elky, the latter
[02:24] <Paradox> although the former would work too
[02:24] <Paradox> so i guess both
[02:24] <knome> what a paradox!
[02:24] <knome> ;)
[02:25] <elky> They're both in the mutated Encyclopedia plugin, iirc.
[02:25] <Paradox> !time | elky
[02:25] <Paradox> oh so thats all the encyclopedia
[02:25] <Paradox> hrm
[02:25] <Paradox> no way to make it for normal supybot plugins, like .google?
[02:26] <elky> There probably is. You probably need to put in some work though.
[02:26] <Paradox> i was hoping for a lazy solution, but thanks anyways
[02:27] <elky> Well the lazy solution would be cutting-pasting. We don't use .google, so hence we've not mutated it to our requirements.
[02:27] <Paradox> my current solution has been alias @ echo $*
[02:28] <Paradox> but that can be used for other problems
[02:28] <Paradox> users use it to .google blah | @ paradox
[02:28] <Paradox> or something similar
[02:28] <knome> that's complex
[02:29] <tsimpson> if you want custom behaviour, you need to make custom plugins
[02:29] <tsimpson> that's why ubottu uses custom plugins
[02:29] <Paradox> i'm aware, problem is im not very good with python, and the reddit devs have too much other stuff to work on to develop plugins
[02:31] <elky> Reddit is a big community. Surely this is something it can crowdsource new contributors for. Really.
[02:32] <Paradox> reddit is, #reddit is only 217 users
[02:32] <Paradox> i guess i could go post a call for help on /r/python
[02:32] <elky> If you haven't already, then you might surprise yourself with the result.
[02:34] <elky> Paradox, if mere kudos alone doesn't work, you'd be surprised at how much can be achieved with a free tshirt.
[02:35] <Paradox> Meh, ill get Keysers to stick it to the frontpage
[02:35] <Paradox> lol
[02:35] <elky> (no seriously, GSoC is about the tshirts, not the $5k)
[02:36] <maco> if youre not accepted and do the project anyway, you still get a shirt
[02:36] <elky> Yup.
[02:36] <elky> Which is where most of the tshirts go, i hear.
[02:36] <knome> which is not a bad thing.
[02:36] <elky> Which is utterly adorable.
[02:37] <knome> and cute
[02:37] <maco> synonym time?
[02:37] <elky> maco, something can be cute without being adorable.
[02:37] <knome> no, the time when you realize the upgrade you started 45 mins ago is a suicide
[02:38] <knome> (because it's way too late and you should be able to work tomorrow)
[03:36] <Azlan3> hello
[03:36] <persia> hi
[03:36] <Azlan3> i'm banned from #ubuntu ?
[03:36] <Azlan3> i dn't know hy
[03:39] <Azlan3> hi
[03:39] <Azlan3> why am ibanned
[03:44] <persia> Just wait around a bit, and one of the #ubuntu ops will look up the reason in the bantracker, and let you know.
[03:44]  * persia can't actually help with this specific issue
[03:45] <Azlan3> alright. thank you.
[03:45]  * Azlan3 is sad persia cannot help with this specific issue
[03:49] <nhandler> @login
[03:51] <nhandler> Hmm...ubottu isn't responding
[03:52] <nhandler> Azlan3: The web gateway is banned. Follow the instructions in #ubuntu-proxy-users
[03:53] <nhandler> Hmm...Actually, ignore the /topic. I thought it had info
[03:54] <nhandler> Azlan3: Try now
[03:55] <tsimpson> this ircd seems broken...
[03:57] <tsimpson> seems we periodically need to undo/redo the gateway ban
[03:58] <tsimpson> it's happened a couple of times now since the new ircd
[03:58] <nhandler> Azlan3: Is there anything else we can help you with?
[03:59] <tsimpson> Azlan3: try joining #ubuntu again, you should be sent to #ubuntu-proxy-users and then invited to #ubuntu
[03:59] <nhandler> tsimpson: The exempt was set
[03:59] <tsimpson> it should have been unset though...
[03:59] <tsimpson> oh well
[04:00] <tsimpson> those +e's should be cleared sometime
[06:07] <elky> bazhang, what are they trying to say, exactly?
[06:08] <bazhang> elky, no clue, they were not using utf-8
[06:08] <bazhang> they are in -ru now however
[06:10] <elky> good
[06:17] <bazhang> now in -ot
[08:17] <dholbach> good morning
[10:26] <jussi01> !staff | [12:23:50] <Ragnar> loled hard http://cli.gs/5hNRye
[10:26] <jussi01> !staff
[10:27] <jussi01> dumb bot
[11:00] <jpds> Yes.
[12:43] <jussi01> Ops! please remember to comment on the wiki's of potential operators (or send an email to the ircc if you prefer privacy). You can see who has applied via the teams in LP!
[13:23] <Pici> Folks, SpaceGhostC2C wants to be a part of -offtopic, so if he comes here or asks any of you about his own or someone elses behavior in that channel, please be nice, he isn't trolling.
[13:24] <bazhang> he is very unpleasant though.
[13:25] <Pici> You don't need to like him to be nice.
[13:26] <bazhang> placing someone on /ignore when he has repeatedly been asked to stop a certain discussion is not a way forward.
[13:34] <Pici> I'm talking to him about that.
[13:47] <elky> I take somewhat of an exception when he comes in sniffing for us to "confess" loopholes in the syntax of conversation that he can exploit to be a pain.
[13:47] <elky> I also take exception to him needing to ask permission to do things like sleep. I hope he's grown out of that one since last week.
[13:48] <Pici> I'll be honest that I've been a bit out of the loop lately, so I'm not really up-to-date on his or anyone elses's recent issues.
[13:59] <jussi01> ooh, nice. fix has been released for the guadalinux #ubuntu issue. :)
[14:00] <persia> \o/
[14:03] <gord> woo, roll on the next issue with $thing!
[14:17] <jussi01> so while Ive got some attention here... please read up to my comment about an hour back
[14:20] <persia> Is there some nice master reference page that links to them all?
[14:22] <jussi01> persia: kinda - the applicants should have it listed on their LP page, so just go to the LP teams page and see who the applicants for that team are.
[14:23] <persia> You describe a process sufficiently complex that I'm not going to do it whilst participating in two meetings :)  Make it simple, and everyone will do it.
[14:25] <jussi01> persia: click here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~irc-ubuntu-ops/+members then click the profile of the person you want to see their wiki. then click the wiki link.
[14:26] <jussi01> persia: here also: https://edge.launchpad.net/~irc-kubuntu-ops/+members
[14:26] <jussi01> and strangely... or not so strangely, there are none for: https://edge.launchpad.net/~irc-ubuntu-offtopic-ops/+members
[14:27] <bazhang> no need at this point imo
[14:27] <jussi01> bazhang: ?
[14:27] <bazhang> the spaceghost situation jussi01
[14:27] <jussi01> oh
[15:05] <jussi01> did anyone else get an invite to a ## channel?
[15:31] <Pici> nhandler: any reason y
[15:31] <Trek> is there a way to find what the "lart" factoid said before LART was disabled?
[15:31] <Trek> from Ubottu
[15:31] <Pici> nhandler: any reason you're opped in #ubuntu?
[15:31] <jussi01> Trek: no. but it said nothing - I added it.
[15:32] <Trek> ah
[15:32] <Trek> understandable...
[15:32] <Pici> Trek: <ubottu> L.A.R.T. is a development tool used for social engineering. [Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool]
[15:32] <Trek> ah THERE we go
[15:32] <Trek> thanks pici
[15:32] <Pici> jussi01: no, it said that.
[15:33] <jussi01> oh. My memory is going. my apologies.
[15:33] <Pici> jussi01: its okay, mine is too ;)
[15:57] <Myrtti> jussi01: atleast I can't see anything else than Approved members on that page
[15:58] <Myrtti> oh, nevermind
[16:01] <jussi01> G*
[16:46] <Myrtti> him again...
[16:48] <gtklocker> @jpds
[16:48] <gtklocker> TontitoSoundSyst
[16:48] <gtklocker> Is this right?
[16:48] <jpds> He hasn't sent me anything.
[16:48] <gtklocker> Full message: "<TontitoSoundSyst> Hello gtklocker I am a Victoria's Secret employee that notices how great you would look in one of our bras so what is your bra size?"
[16:49] <jpds> Pici: Hi.
[16:49] <Pici> jpds: oh
[16:49] <Myrtti> there is no such nick in the whole network
[16:50] <Pici> uh
[16:50] <Myrtti> and he wasn't in #ubuntu at any point
[16:50] <jpds> Fun.
[16:51] <gtklocker> Hm, and so. Sorry.
[16:51] <jpds> Amaranth: Nice.
[16:52] <Pici> gtklocker: Looks like some other people were reporting similar issues in #freenode anyway though.
[16:53] <Pici> I'm getting some odd spam from people that I don't share any channels with as well.
[16:55] <persia> It's the new fashion: grep logs to get nicks, so the links cannot be traced.
[18:00] <jussi01> !staff | please have a look at apokal
[18:29] <mneptok> dare: i'm curious as to why you persisted in discussing a topic that you were told was inappropriate.
[18:29] <dare> hallo niko
[18:29] <dare> wie geht es dir?
[18:31] <mneptok> dare: if you do not want to discuss your #ubuntu ban, please /part this channel.
[18:31] <dare> vielen danke
[18:31] <mneptok> tschuess
[18:32] <dare> oh, i'm suffering from an unappropriate redirect
[18:32] <mneptok> you're banforwarded here from #ubuntu
[18:33] <mneptok> until you discuss the issue and convince us your behavior will not be repeated, the banforward will not be removed.
[18:37] <mneptok> dare: if you do not want to discuss your #ubuntu ban, please /part this channel.
[18:37] <dare> I do for it to be undone
[18:38] <Myrtti> that's not really discussing
[18:40] <dare> You misunderstood, I /part to be force-joined afterwards
[18:41] <Myrtti> it's still not discussing
[18:45] <mneptok> dare: stop trying to join #ubuntu and you will not be forwarded here
[18:54] <persia> Or turn off auto-join, if you have that enabled.
[18:59] <ikonia> can we now assume dare is idle after not saying anything for 15 minutes
[18:59] <dare> yes, stop playing with me + neutralize the forced joins please
[19:00] <persia> dare: We can't: it's a client thing.
[19:00] <dare> if I am banned here, there will be a forced join to #ubuntu-ops-ops? :-(
[19:00] <Pici> (Hes talking about the banforward)
[19:00] <dare> eternal hell?
[19:00] <dare> etc, etc
[19:01] <Pici> dare: mneptok asked you a question earlier, you still have not addressed it.
[19:01] <dare> the issue is too sensitive for public eyes
[19:02] <jussi01> dare: Im sure mneptok would be happy to discuss in PM.
[19:03] <dare> unfortunately it's too important to discuss over IRC
[19:07] <Myrtti> right...
[19:12] <ikonia> is there anything else that needs to be discussed ?
[19:16] <ikonia> dare: do you have anything else to say ?
[19:17] <dare> toodle pip? .......
[19:17] <ikonia> ok then, bye
[20:24] <mneptok> Pici: what question?
[20:25] <mneptok> oh, NM
[20:25] <Pici> dare: i'm curious as to why you persisted in discussing a topic that you were told was inappropriate.
[20:25]  * mneptok is dyslexic
[20:25] <Pici> ^^
[20:25] <mneptok> i read it as dare asking me a question
[20:25] <mneptok> sorry, bad week.
[20:25] <Pici> I know the feeling.
[20:50] <Pici> !bot > neoraj
[20:54] <jpds> NOOOOOOOOOO
[20:54] <jussi01> oh bugger :(
[20:54] <jpds> Pici: WHAT DID YOU DO?
[20:55] <jpds> ;)
[20:55] <knome> it was me
[20:55] <Pici> YOU BLEW IT ALL UP
[20:55]  * knome hides
[20:59] <jussi01> err
[20:59] <jussi01> ok...
[21:01] <jussi01> @nick ubottu
[21:01] <ubott2> In ubott2, ChanServ said: [#xubuntu] This channel is officially logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[21:02] <ubott2> Error: Someone else is already using that nick.
[21:03] <knome> haha
[21:03] <knome> good work


[00:36] <Roey{-> DarinMiller, I followed the steps past Tsep 4
[00:36] <Roey{-> so:
[00:36] <Roey{-> lsmod | grep snd -> this yielded a bunch of lines
[00:37] <Roey{-> aplay -l also yielded a few devices, including my integrated sound
[00:37] <Roey{-> and it shows up in alsamixer
[00:37] <Roey{-> so why doesn't kde see it?
[00:37] <Roey{-> or mplayer
[00:37] <Roey{-> for that matter
[00:37] <Roey{-> like, what is pulseaudio configured to do?
 Hard to say without the ability to directly interact.  Does the sound work correctly when booted from a live USB?
[00:43] <Roey{-> right, that's always the thing to test it against
[00:43] <Roey{-> well, that's worth a try; it did work all the way up until last week or so
 sound has been working quite well in KDE over last few years, so my troubleshooting is a bit rusty (not that it was all that great in the 1st place)...
[00:55] <Roey{-> :)
[00:55] <Roey{-> you're helping me a lot here in diagnosing it
[00:55] <Roey{-> so we got it to somewhere between pulseaudio and the sound card drivers
[00:55] <Roey{-> I mean, how can I play a sound on a sepcific device
[00:56] <Roey{-> or actually
[00:56] <Roey{-> so I do "mp *" and it plays but I hear no sound.
[00:56] <Roey{-> DarinMiller: https://pastebin.com/LKsPFGuY
 when the sound is playing use the sys tray icon to drag app to the desired device.  Kind of awkward but it works.
 <searching for demo video...>
[00:58] <Roey{-> sahh
[00:58] <Roey{-> *ahh
 Sorry for the delay, I could not find the video and specticle under wayland needs a lot of work. Essentially drag sound application from this tab to the devices tab:
 (Photo, 687x610) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/rmjlgXom/file_12123.jpg
 Like this:
 (Photo, 692x608) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/2sv8y7UI/file_12124.jpg
 Drop the application on the desited device.  My analog device is the acitve, thus only the LG (bluetooth headset) is highlighted....
[04:39] <silenf2> Can someone help when compiling from git?
[04:40] <silenf2> Im facing errors on almost every git im trying to compile
[10:22] <kab0m> Just installed a fresh KDE Neon...i added a global menu widget which works, but after every reboot the widget does not show a global menu for every programm that got restored from the last kde session until i close and reopen this programm...has someone a fix for this?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:31] <kab0m> Hi BluesKaj
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hi kab0m
[12:54] <BluesKaj> !gug | kab0m
[12:55] <BluesKaj> oops :-)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> !bug | kab0m
[15:15] <IrcsomeBot3> <Azam Fadil-lillah> Nice
[18:34] <esperegu> how can I start a program so kubuntu ignores the inhibit?
[21:35] <Kuestion> I was just wondering if the kubuntu installer automatically performs all necessary/recommended optimizations regarding SSDs such various alignments of partitions and that this extends to using LVM and LUKS as well?


[18:32] <teward> Eickmeyer[m]: FYI: avldrums.lv2 was accepted in NEW.
[18:55] <RikMills> that means hydrogen can be replaced?
[19:21] <OvenWerks> RikMills: no.
[19:22] <OvenWerks> Hydrogen is a useful patern based sequencer all on it's own
[19:23] <RikMills> if its that useful, please package the Qt5 version
[19:24] <OvenWerks> avldrums is a drum synth plugin that does take the place of something like DrMr.lv2 and is a lighter alternative to drumgizmo for those with less computer resources.
[19:25] <OvenWerks> RikMills: why the hurry? There is still software that has just (in the past month or so) changed to QT 4
[19:25] <OvenWerks> (rivendell)
[19:25] <OvenWerks> Running way ahead of all the software does not seem like a great idea
[19:26] <RikMills> Qt4 is being removed from debian, and hopefullt 20.04
[19:26] <RikMills> *hopefully
[19:26] <OvenWerks> That did not answer the question
[19:30] <RikMills> I'm just going through the packages blocking Qt4 removal, that is all.
[19:31] <OvenWerks> That is not a justification for removing qt4
[19:31] <OvenWerks> So I guess the reason is "Cause we want to"
[19:32] <RikMills> The reason is we can't support it
[19:32] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: ^^
[20:01] <RikMills> Qt5 should migrate on this britney run I hope
[20:01] <RikMills> ^ ignore. wrong room
[20:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: The Qt5 version has already been packaged, though it's still "beta" and has been for yeeears. What's in Focal now is the Qt5 version.
[20:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> teward: I got the ping in #ubuntu-release.
[20:08] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: good to know.
[20:09] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: the Qt4 removal transition tracker disagrees
[20:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> My biggest objection is that it has a nag dialog that says "beta" which is very offputting to LTS users. But, oh well.
[20:09] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: It's wrong. I checked it myself.
[20:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> Besides, that's a package we sync from Debian.
[20:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> Same with Ardour, but that was complete FTBFS which required my immediate attention.
[20:10] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: this also disagrees https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hydrogen
[20:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> If Debian is removing it, then it'll get removed and we'll go to the version I packaged. However, that's not happening.
[20:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: The implication is that it would require a complete rewrite of our installation test case, which I reeeealllly don't want to do.
[20:12] <RikMills> so transition tracker is correct
[20:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Yes, apparently the test I did was against the version I packaged. oops. HOWEVER, I have bugged the Hydrogen developers about this. I'm likely not to do anything about this until it gets closer to feature freeze as I want to give them as much time as possible.
[20:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: I do NOT want to release beta software with a nag dialog.
[20:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> Especially in an LTS.
[20:15] <RikMills> I'm sure that can be removed or amended if needed
[20:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> I don't have the 1) bandwidth or 2) know-how to do that.
[20:16] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: can be done as the old version plus git*?
[20:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: No, it can't. The old version will not even build against Qt5.
[20:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> I tried.
[20:17] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: regards debian... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=874907
[20:17] <RikMills> "Status update: Qt4 has now been droppped from testing, qt4 will be removed from unstable by end of February (along with the remaining rdeps (currently 15))."
[20:18] <OvenWerks> I mean can the new version be pulled as old version +git*
[20:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: No, it doesn't work like that.
[20:18] <OvenWerks> k
[20:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: I'm well aware of that thread.
[20:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: I did this back in Nov3ember, it's the beta I speak of: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+git/hydrogen
[20:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> It's pretty much ready to go, but I reallyl don't want to put it in there with the beta nag.
[20:19] <RikMills> OvenWerks: they versioned the beta as 1.0.0-beta1
[20:20] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: where is it?
[20:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Where is what? That's the git for what I packaged.
[20:21] <RikMills> Yes, or the ppa
[20:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Here's the issue I opened with them: https://github.com/hydrogen-music/hydrogen/issues/794
[20:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: I appear to have deleted it from my PPA by mistake, I'll get it building again.
[20:24]  * RikMills subscribes
[20:29] <RikMills> data/hydrogen.default.conf:     <showDevelWarning>true</showDevelWarning>
[20:29] <RikMills> I guess set that to false via packaging, and the warning will go away?
[20:31] <RikMills> keeping the warning but changing the text would be problematic, as it appears to be a translated string
[20:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> I feel like I ran across that issue as well.
[20:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> If it can be disabled via that one string, I'm all for it RikMills .
[20:37] <Eickmeyer[m]> Shouldn't be hard to patch.
[20:37] <RikMills> exactly
[20:38] <RikMills> actually the DELEVOLOPERS notes in the source say exactly this
[20:38] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm just leery of patching things because it invites the whole "We don't know what they've patched in Ubuntu so we don't support it" argument, even when I tell upstream that it's exactly the same as what they themselves have put in Debian. *cough**Ardour**cough*
[20:39] <RikMills> i.e. when they make a non beta release, they should change that config to false to get rid of the nag
[20:40] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#Patching_.28.28NEW.29.29
[20:40] <RikMills> "Patches are evil." - apachelogger around 2009
[20:40] <RikMills> except when they are not :)
[20:41] <RikMills> if we couldn't patch things, no Ubuntu release would ever make it out the door!
[20:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: I'm working on some stuff I noticed, such as we'd rather have it building against jackd2 than jack1.
[20:48] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: we don't have weakjack?
[20:49] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: What's weakjack?
[20:49] <Eickmeyer[m]> (can't find a package name with that)
[20:49] <OvenWerks> another api that works with all the jacks
[20:49] <OvenWerks> I think it is another of RG's thing
[20:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, apparently not. Switching out the build deps in the d/control file isn't that hard though.
[20:50] <OvenWerks> https://github.com/x42/weakjack
[20:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> And, of course, it's probably not building any sort of standard way, which means I'll have to patch the living junk out of it to get it to build, which means... yeah, not for an LTS.
[20:51] <OvenWerks>  :)
[20:51] <OvenWerks> Basically it is the the jack_lib.h file
[20:52] <Eickmeyer[m]> I see that. Really, that's all it is, but it's so much easier just to change-out the build dep.
[20:52] <OvenWerks> Nope it doesn't replace it goes inbetween... forget I mentioned it.
[21:03] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Building now in my PPA (https://launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages). I'll be out for a while to get my son from school, but I don't forsee any issues.
[21:03] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: cool. I'll have a look later
[21:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Looks like a FTBFS due to the python issue. I'll look more when I get home.
[21:39] <RikMills> you have 3001-remove-nag-dialog.patch
[21:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Yes. I made that.
[21:49] <RikMills> :)