[04:32] <stranger> booo, i'm using ubuntu but it works for me in opensuse as well. someone else has this problem and i'm trying to help him
[04:32] <Cyrano_De> If you did it from the the repositories you can do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall banshee"
[04:33] <deac0n>  /j #g2root
[04:33] <deac0n> doh
[04:33] <stranger> Cyrano_De, thanks! i'll tell him to try. anything else in case it soesn't work?
[04:33] <booo> strange, did you try looking around on their forums
[04:33] <booo> see if anyone had a simlar problem
[04:33] <booo> thats what i normally do
[04:34] <stranger> booo, you mean ubuntu forums. i tried there and everywhere else but the difficult part is that i can't test it myself 'cause someone else has the problem
[04:34] <Cyrano_De> If he is running the 32bit package on a 64 bit install and it was not installed via apt-get then getlibs might help.
[04:34] <stranger> he posted the problem in the forums and i'm trying to help him
[04:35] <booo> i see
[04:35] <root> hello
[04:35] <stranger> Cyrano_De, it's definitely a mono thing but i don't really know how mono works on the background so i can't really help him more
[04:35] <Cyrano_De> getlibs is very helpful in getting Webex to run on 64bit ubuntu.
[04:35] <stranger> so thank you Cyrano_De and booo
[04:36] <stranger> Cyrano_De, is getlibs an apt option?
[04:36] <CensoredBiscuit> Cyrano_de you running 10.10?
[04:37] <mgwalk> when running this in ubuntu pecl install "channel://pecl.php.net/zip-1.10.2"  I get make: *** [php_zip.lo] Error 1  make failed
[04:37] <jaffachris> StrangeCharm, what happens if you terminal, sudo nautilus and then delete /media/XXXX when it is unplugged and then try again?
[04:37] <Cyrano_De> stranger: No, getlibs is a tool that helps you find and install the 32bit dependancies some applications require.
[04:37] <Cyrano_De> CensoredBiscuit: On this netbook I am running 10.10.  My workstation and business laptops are 10.04.1
[04:38] <StrangeCharm> jaffachris, it's not in media. it's a luks-encrypted usb disk. the error is that device udisks-luks-uuid-blah already exists
[04:38] <stranger> Cyrano_De, oh cool, i'll tell him. i'm running the 32-bit version 'cause the 64-bit version isn't fully supported and it's like having 2 OS installed in the place of one
[04:38] <StrangeCharm> jaffachris, it doesn't even get to mounting it
[04:38] <yspan> I have a Manhattan Mini Cam.  Where can I find a driver for it?
[04:38] <syddraf> After doing a package upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10, the entire system freezes after playing any type of media, either from the internet or local. What could be causing the problem?
[04:39] <bullgard4> When I start my computer Grub will allow me to boot into recovery mode. Is the recovery mode an Ubuntu feature or is recovery mode also provided in other Linux distributions?
[04:40] <Cyrano_De> bullgard4: many distros add a recovery mode to the grub menu.
[04:40] <stranger> bullgard4, i think it's all of them but with different names each
[04:40] <stranger> it's like safe mode on windows
[04:40] <jaffachris> StrangeCharm, en ca case, i am hopeless, pretty new to it all really. other than drivers, i would be lost
[04:41] <eddy> VCCN,
[04:41] <stranger> if you screw up with something you installed you can remove it to fix the problem
[04:41] <bullgard4> Cyrano_De, stranger Thank you for answering.
[04:41] <Cyrano_De> yspan: What is a Manhattan Mini Cam?  Is it a webcam?
[04:42] <stranger> bullgard4, you're welcome :)
[04:42] <Curator> hi, can anyone here help me with running ubuntu in vmware? after i update ubuntu and restart, ubuntu won't respond to cursor movements or keystrokes
[04:42] <Curator> i'm frozen at the login screen
[04:42] <Cyrano_De> If it is a webcam, did you install a webcam app like Cheese and see if it shows up?
[04:42] <yspan> Cyrano_De, yes it is a webcam. there are only Windows drivers on the website.  I was wondering how to set it up.
[04:43] <hakume> *sigh* I'm just going to have to back up all of my stuff and reinstall.
[04:43] <yspan> Cyrano_De, I have not installed Cheese.  Is there an apt-get command for it?
[04:43] <Cyrano_De> Curator: Did you install the vmware tools and run vmware-config-tools.pl?
[04:43] <devilcode> Hi
[04:43] <devilcode> no luck
[04:44] <Curator> yes, i have before
[04:44] <Curator> it's worked fine UNTIL i updated ubuntu
[04:44] <Curator> do i need to reinstall vmware tools?
[04:44] <Cyrano_De> yspan: "sudo apt-get install cheese" should get it.  That has picked up the three webcams I have.
[04:44] <yspan> Cyrano_De, I did install Cheese and it works.  Thank you!
[04:44] <syddraf> Thanks for the info Cyrano_De. I've been having webcam problems myself.
[04:44] <Cyrano_De> yspan: One Dell laptop, this acer netbook and a usb logitech.
[04:45] <Cyrano_De> Curator: You need to re-run the vmware-config-tools.pl script.
[04:45] <Curator> i cannot even log into ubuntu at the moment, though
[04:45] <Curator> i'm totally forzen
[04:46] <Curator> frozen*
[04:46] <Guest72334> does anybody know how to get eterm to work?
[04:46] <devilcode> ok cant get into single user mode as i cant get to the grub screen ... just to worsen the problem in on ubunut on a mac
[04:46] <Cyrano_De> Curator: Can you get to a ptty?  CTRL-ALT-F1?
[04:46] <Curator> no, ubuntu does not respond to any input
[04:47] <Cyrano_De> Curator: if not can you boot into the recovery mode and get to a console?
[04:47] <Curator> how is this done through vmware?
[04:48] <Gnurdux> is the following bug known: when display resumes from sleep, colors are corrupted
[04:48] <Guest72334> eterm anyone?
[04:48] <Archimage> jfv34: You still here? D:
[04:48] <Archimage> :D*
[04:48] <Curator> lol, i should really just not update ubuntu
[04:48] <Curator> this is bad
[04:48] <Curator> i don't really have any way to get into it
[04:48] <Curator> the weird thing is, i had this exact same problem a while back, but i can't remember how i fixed it
[04:49] <yrma> how do i get vmpk to work with ardour?
[04:49] <pr0mised> hello, someone know how can i get this on my ubuntu? the widgets, calendar.. http://ubuntued.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/menu_ubuntu_tweak.jpg
[04:49] <yrma> can someone tell me
[04:49] <huazi> what are you talking about
[04:50] <yrma> can someone tell me
[04:50] <rdw200169> pr0mised: i like that, but i don't know what it is...
[04:51] <Cyrano_De> Curator: You have to chose the rescue mode option in the initial grub boot menu when the VM first boots up.
[04:51] <bobthemilkman> What would be the best way to notify myself when my ubuntu server finishes running every process with a given set of PIDs?
[04:51] <rdw200169> pr0mised: actually, it might be rainlendar... if it is, its not the default theme, but it looks remarkably familiar
[04:51] <bobthemilkman> Could I, for example, make a script that would email myself?
[04:51] <zkanfer> After upgrading to 10.10, I can't get into a graphical user environment. In the Grub recovery menu, I tried dpkg (to "repair broken packages"), and it complains that fglrx (a display driver) is marked for removal, but it can't be removed. What can I do to see whether this is the actual problem, or is it something else?
[04:52] <devilcode> anyone know how to get to single user mode on ubuntu 10.04 LTS  running for all my shame on a macbook pro
[04:52] <a1fa> does left for dead2 work under ubuntu 10.10?
[04:52] <Curator> cyrano_de: i do not see a grub menu
[04:53] <Cyrano_De> pr0mised: That could be screenlets
[04:53] <NiftyLettuce> evening everyone
[04:54] <ChogyDan> zkanfer: can you pastebin anything?
[04:54] <Gary_B> so im in the linux mint setup
[04:55] <Gary_B> and able to connect to the lan and browse the net, very unlike winxp ;-)
[04:55] <rigved> hi everyone
[04:55] <WilliamHerry> hi
[04:55] <zkanfer> ChogyDan: I think I can get into failsafeX mode from the Recovery Menu and then put stuff into pastebin, yeah.
[04:55] <rigved> my laptop hangs frequently. i have ubuntu 10.10.
[04:56] <yagoo> rigved, sounds like an acpi issue.. there's probably hints for your laptop model with ubuntu
[04:56] <Gary_B> i resized my windows partition to leave 50GB free, but the auto setup seems to want to overrwite my windows rather than partition up the free space?
[04:57] <yagoo> Gary, choose advanced/custom part when the partition choice comes
[04:57] <zkanfer> ChogyDan: actually, failsafeX isn't working now. It was working earlier this evening, but not now. I can manually copy stuff over, though.
[04:57] <Cyrano_De> Curator: What version of vmware?  If it is ESX or server you can add a boot delay to the VM that might help.  If it is player you have to add a 'bios.bootDelay = "5000"' option to the .vmx file
[04:57] <yagoo> Gary_B, lower button on that setup page
[04:57] <yagoo> Gary_B, choose advanced/custom part when the partition choice comes
[04:57] <Curator> cyrano_de: it's player. where is the .vmx file?
[04:58] <Gary_B> yagoo: done, do i need to setup seperate swap file, main partitions for linux?
[04:58] <ChogyDan> zkanfer: I might be able to help if I had some specifics
[04:58] <yagoo> Gary_B, yeah.. u need 1 swap partition and 1 partition for "/".. you just need two partition for linux
[04:59] <rigved> yagoo: how do i check if it really is an acpi issue? any logs which i can check?
[04:59] <yagoo> Gary_B, how much ram do you have?
[04:59] <Gary_B> yagoo: 2GB swap will be 2x the size of my ram yea?
[04:59] <yagoo> rigved, well you can google 'wiki ubuntu <laptop model>'
[04:59] <zkanfer> ChogyDan: ok, do you want the output for the dpkg error?
[05:00] <yagoo> Gary_B, that's good
[05:00] <rdw200169> pr0mised: oh yeah, its rainlendar for sure
[05:00] <yagoo> Gary_B, 2048 Megs is good
[05:00] <ChogyDan> zkanfer: is it dpkg --configure -a?
[05:00] <Gary_B> yagoo: are they logical or primary partitions, note i have a windows partition already?
[05:01] <Cyrano_De> Curator: It will be in the directory that holds the virtual machine files.  There will be some .vmdk files for the virtual drive and a .vmx file that discribes what the VM is configured with.
[05:01] <Curator> ok
[05:01] <zkanfer> ChogyDan: I'm not sure; when I get into the Grub recovery menu, there's an option that's "dpkg    repair broken packages".
[05:01] <yagoo> Gary_B, how many partition you want to make?
[05:01] <zkanfer> I can go into a root shell and try that command, though.
[05:01] <Gary_B> just the basic setup for linux
[05:01] <ChogyDan> zkanfer: ya, that makes more sense I think
[05:02] <yagoo> Gary_B, you can have 3 partitions-- 1 for win, 1 for "/", 1 for swap.. they would be all primary.
[05:02] <zkanfer> I ran dpkg --configure -a , and it immediately returned with no output
[05:02] <ChogyDan> zkanfer: apt-get install -f
[05:02] <Gary_B> yagoo: great, thanks, since win partition is already first, does it make a diff if my swap is in the middle or the end of the disk
[05:03] <yagoo> Gary_B, "/" can be ext4.
[05:03] <yagoo> Gary_B, either way.. linux is very flexible..
[05:03] <person> hi
[05:03] <person> how can I replace a file with ubuntu
[05:03] <person> please
[05:03] <person> replace a file for other
[05:04] <yagoo> person, what is your native language?
[05:04] <Ridler> hi
[05:04] <Ridler> anyone ehre?
[05:04] <person> not english definetely
[05:04] <Ridler> here?
[05:04] <jfv34> Archimage: Hey, any luck?
[05:04] <person> yagoo, would you help me?
[05:04] <Ridler> how?
[05:04] <MidnighToker> yawn. morning people
[05:04] <Ridler> i dont use ubuntu
[05:04] <Ridler> guys
[05:04] <Ridler> you know lynda.com
[05:04] <Ridler> the teaching videos peeps
[05:05] <Ridler> they usually do other stuff
[05:05] <Ridler> but do you know of who teaches
[05:05] <person> how can I replace a file on ubuntu?
[05:05] <Ridler> C++?
[05:05] <Ridler> i mean which videos teach C+?
[05:05] <Ridler> ++
[05:05] <MidnighToker> person: can you elaborate?
[05:05] <FloodBot2> Ridler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <Ridler> ok
[05:05] <ChogyDan> Ridler: please keep your question to a single line
[05:05] <MidnighToker> Riddell: spaces and punctuation can all take the place of a carriage return ;)
[05:06] <i_is_broke> Ridler: please stay on topic.
[05:06] <Gary_B> yagoo: swap is neither mounted nor formatted yea?
[05:06] <rigved> yagoo: i cannot find anything related to it. is a system crash logged somewhere?
[05:07] <rinku_kokiri> HELP
[05:07] <rinku_kokiri> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -bind /proc /mnt/proc
[05:07] <rinku_kokiri> mount: invalid option -- 'b'
[05:08] <MidnighToker> mount -o bind
[05:08] <person> I need to replace a file on ubuntu, HELP
[05:08] <rinku_kokiri> AAH
[05:08] <rinku_kokiri> TY
[05:08] <rigved> yagoo: thanx for your help. i'll try to solve it later.
[05:08] <yagoo> person, there's a #ubuntu-ko (korean)
[05:08] <MidnighToker> person: can you ask your question in a different way? it makes no sense.
[05:08] <MidnighToker> ah :)
[05:08] <zkanfer> ChogyDan: I typed up the output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/531029/
[05:08] <person> im not korean
[05:08] <mikrochip> boo
[05:09] <mikrochip> view #channel
[05:09] <yagoo> person, but you do speak korean?
[05:09] <person> no, i dont
[05:09] <person> How can I replace a file on ubuntu using terminal?
[05:09] <yagoo> person, well you really don't make any sense
[05:09] <MidnighToker> person: i don't understand waht you mean
[05:10] <mikrochip> mv *orig* *new*
[05:10] <mikrochip> make sure u use an absolute path
[05:10] <MidnighToker> (and the asterisks)
[05:10] <mikrochip> and cp *orig* *orig.bak* before u do it to be safe
[05:10] <lock> anyone here familiar with the aircrack-ng suite?
[05:10] <mikrochip> i.e. mv /home/mikro/x /home/mikro/filetobereplaced
[05:10] <loglad> I was following instructions to install firesheep and the instructions said to make sure that your xulrunner sdk is in the /usr/lib/xulrunner-<IP_ADDRESS> file. mine is not and i cannot find a xulrunner sdk by searching my file system. how should i proceed
[05:11] <person> when u have 2 different files, with the same name, the system offers u the possibility of replace it
[05:11] <mikrochip> ?? if u copy in the gui
[05:11] <person> thats what I want to do, but Ubuntu doesnt let me do it
[05:11] <mikrochip> *person wtf?
[05:11] <mikrochip> go sudo mv *orig* *new*
[05:12] <Cyrano_De> person: cp newfile oldfile
[05:12] <WilliamHerry> you don't have the permission
[05:12] <person> yes, i dont
[05:12] <person> so, what can i do?
[05:12] <mikrochip> sudo.....
[05:12] <mikrochip> sudo gives u elevated permission to run the command
[05:12] <loglad> its really hard to follow alal this. if your responding to my question please adress me by my user name
[05:12] <mikrochip> u just need ur pw
[05:12] <bullgard4> How much disk space takes a Query in OO.o Base 3.2.1?
[05:12] <yagoo> rigved, what model laptop is it?
[05:13] <person> is there any way to do it without using terminal?
[05:13] <arghDNS> who's good at LAMP and DNS and such?
[05:13] <lock> person: the terminal is the fastest way to accomplish tasks in linux
[05:13] <mikrochip> person: terminal and try #sudo mv oldfile newfile
[05:13] <mikrochip> oh fu** now im confused...
[05:13] <MidnighToker> arghDNS: at this time of the morning I'd just ask the question and see who can help ;)
[05:13] <bullgard4> arghDNS: Please put a more specific question in this channel. This will increase to get a meaningful answer.
[05:13] <arghDNS> and not normal DNS, but i'm gonna run my own bind9 and host the dns on my server. i have the ns records for my "core" domain setup.
[05:13] <loglad> who knows something about xulrunner sdk locations
[05:14] <bullgard4> arghDNS: Please put a more specific question in this channel. This will increase your chances to get a meaningful answer.
[05:14] <MidnighToker> arghDNS: is this for internal or for internet use?
[05:14] <ChogyDan> zkanfer:  try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186602
[05:14] <mikrochip> loglad: have u tried a google search with ubuntu and xulrunner as keywords?
[05:14] <arghDNS> bullgard4, the question and explanation would be a flood.
[05:14] <loglad> yeah
[05:14] <arghDNS> so I will only put the general out.
[05:14] <loglad> i ran into some stuff i did not understand
[05:15] <MidnighToker> arghDNS: use punctuation rather than a new line each time. no flood.
[05:15] <loglad> i figured i might try asking here
[05:15] <arghDNS> MidnighToker, aight. ill try.
[05:15] <MidnighToker> using real words might help too, but crack on :)
[05:16] <Roasted> Question - if I'm using Samba with a public share where I want guest access to it and that's it, if that's ALL I'm "hosting" is there any need for me to create "samba" users?
[05:16] <dominick> hey im new at this... where can I get wireless networking assistance?
[05:17] <MidnighToker> Roasted: not really any need, though it can be handy (so you can auth as yourself and have write access for example)
[05:17] <person> mikrochip: it says not a directory
[05:17] <person> wtf?
[05:17] <yagoo> Roasted, you can use swat.
[05:17] <Roasted> yagoo, pretty sure SWAT was dropped (and not advised to use) with Ubuntu.
[05:18] <Roasted> MidnighToker, yeah I was just curious. I like having authentication but I was just wondering if they were needed under that unique situation I pointed out.
[05:18] <sory> hello ,  I use vnc to run my kvm guest os , and it work well because I can hear starting sound of windows , but I can't find it by remoto destop viwer , how can I sovle this problem ?
[05:18] <loglad> so if theres no xulrunner sdk in my /usr/lib/xulrunner-<IP_ADDRESS> and I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat does this mean I will have to install the xulrunner sdk
[05:18] <yagoo> Roasted, you can use swat.
[05:18]  * yagoo -_-
[05:18] <Roasted> yagoo, I know I CAN use swat, but I heard it caused a lot of issues and Ubuntu advised not to use it.
[05:18] <Roasted> Just saying.
[05:19] <MidnighToker> Roasted: the only edge case, is; do you trust everyone that can access your network... do you want everything that "public" ;)
[05:19] <yagoo> Roasted, it's in 10.10
[05:19] <yagoo> Roasted, so use it
[05:19] <Guest42352> i need help only way i can get the software-center to come up i have to pull it up with terminal
[05:19] <Roasted> MidnighToker, that wasn't a serious situation. I just got to thinking, if I use guest only, do I need users?
[05:19] <rusivi> !pastebin | arghDNS
[05:19] <loglad> I'm new to all this so I could use some help
[05:19] <Amber2> hey
[05:19] <MidnighToker> yagoo: not sure how swat is supposed to help with his question, wither
[05:19] <Guest42352> and nothing will add to menu after installed
[05:19] <Amber2> i need simple help
[05:19] <Roasted> yagoo, I don't ned swat. therefore, I will not use it. But thanks.
[05:19] <Amber2> can someone query me?
[05:19] <Roasted> btw
[05:19] <MidnighToker> Roasted: no, not at all. and samba and system are different user-sets anyway :)
[05:19] <Roasted> it's not showing up in software center for me
[05:19] <yagoo> there there go now and set it up. It's not that hard if you try..
[05:20] <Roasted> yagoo, you do realize I'm speaking from an entirely curious point of view, right? I have a samba setup, with users, and it works great.
[05:20] <Roasted> I just used the standard samba package and the system-config-samba gui. set it up in 2-3 minutes.
[05:20] <bullgard4> arghDNS: To put a more specific question is no flood. But it increases your chance to get a more meaningful answer.
[05:20] <yagoo> bullgard4, floods aren't good
[05:21] <Terminal-Control> hi
[05:21] <yagoo> Terminal-Control, hi
[05:21] <loglad> depends on you point of view
[05:21] <Terminal-Control> need help with software-center
[05:21] <loglad> without floods we would not have oil
[05:21] <mikrochip> loglad:howso?
[05:21] <ubuntu> ?
[05:21] <Terminal-Control> hiya yagoo  and stuff not been added to menu
[05:21] <ubuntu> hello ?
[05:21] <ubuntu> am i here?
[05:21] <Amber2> So, im pretty new to this and I just want some help installing an app
[05:21] <loglad> do you know how oil is made
[05:21] <cyphase> recently i restarted my computer and now i can't set my resolution to 1440x900. anyone have any ideas?
[05:22] <loglad> very old organic things basically
[05:22] <Amber2> it gives me the instructions, but I dont know how
[05:22] <mikrochip> loglad:are you on a kvm?
[05:22] <MidnighToker> Amber2: doesn't last.fm just tie into your music player?
[05:22] <Amber2> http://apt.last.fm/
[05:22] <Cyrano_De> Amber2: What app?
[05:22] <yagoo> Terminal-Control, go to system/preferences and turn on the debian menu...
[05:22] <ubuntu> what this?
[05:22] <moparisthebest> I set up RAID 1 using mdadm the other day, and md4 appears not to have synced, can anyone help? /proc/mdstat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/531032/
[05:22] <Amber2> i need to do my sources list
[05:22] <Amber2> i think
[05:22] <loglad> so when natural disasters happen they creat an abundance of oil
[05:22] <evon> trism, thanks it works fine now
[05:22] <ubuntu> some body chat with me ?
[05:22] <KarmicNull> okay guys
[05:22] <loglad> make sense?
[05:22] <KarmicNull> need a little support
[05:22] <evon> trism, have a good night
[05:22] <bullgard4> How much disk space takes a Query in OO.o Base 3.2.1?
[05:22] <MidnighToker> Amber2: it gives you step by step instructions on that page.
[05:22] <KarmicNull> im on ubuntu lucid 10.04
[05:22] <mikrochip> sorry cyphase: are you running kvm
[05:22] <cyphase> mikrochip, was that for me? yes, and that was gonna be my next try
[05:22] <cyphase> ah
[05:22] <Amber2> I don't know how to edit my source list
[05:23] <MidnighToker> Amber2: just follow the instructions on the link you sent :)
[05:23] <ubuntu> how coulde you know who is talking with you ?
[05:23] <Amber2> i dont know how to edit my source list
[05:23] <loglad> how can any one get anything done with so many people typing
[05:23] <loglad> its amazing
[05:23] <Terminal-Control> yagoo,  that fix the menu part thanks
[05:23] <bullgard4> Amber2: wiki.ubuntu.com will tell you.
[05:23] <yagoo> np
[05:23] <MidnighToker> Amber2: software sources in system -> administration, i think
[05:23] <KarmicNull> i ran some updates updated from kernel  <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:23] <Terminal-Control> but now the software-center it can only be open with terminal
[05:23] <KarmicNull> and now my wireless adapter
[05:23] <rfamm> just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <Amber2> Can someone help me in query?
[05:23] <KarmicNull> wont work with ndiswrapper
[05:24]  * yagoo things loglad is talking about #oil..
[05:24] <yagoo> oO
[05:24] <KarmicNull> i CAN force it to function but it functions so poorly i might as well not try it
[05:24] <yagoo> weird people here
[05:24] <rfamm> so you
[05:24] <KarmicNull> anyone got any suggestions?
[05:24] <Terminal-Control> yagoo,  any help with that one
[05:25] <Cyrano_De> Amber2: You can add sources from Synaptic and from Update Manager.
[05:25] <KarmicNull> o_O
[05:25] <KarmicNull> no help at all on that one?
[05:25] <yagoo> KarmicNull, you probably need to update ndis..
[05:25] <Amber2> Ok, I don't know what that is. I just started using Ubuntu like 3-4 days ago
[05:26] <KarmicNull> its already the newest version
[05:26] <yagoo> KarmicNull, what wifi brand is it
[05:26] <KarmicNull> what i did is i installed my security updates to get my wpa working before i updated the rest of the distro
[05:26] <yagoo> KarmicNull, are you saying iwlist works or not?
[05:26] <KarmicNull> dont THINK that broke it
[05:27] <Cyrano_De> Amber2: System menu -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager.
[05:27] <KarmicNull> im saying i CAN get it to work but its so damn slow it might as well not work
[05:27] <KarmicNull> but heres my lsusb readout
[05:27] <Amber2> so I just add wget -q http://apt.last.fm/last.fm.repo.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - to there?
[05:27] <yagoo> KarmicNull, what do u need in .25 that you don't get in .24 ?
[05:27] <KarmicNull> us 002 Device 016: ID 0846:9030 NetGear, Inc.
[05:28] <away> sa tu jakies pokoje towarzyskie ?
[05:28] <KarmicNull> it was included in the updates my update manager provided -_-
[05:28] <KarmicNull> ive googled my ass off on getting the ath9k driver to install but eh nothing makes it work
[05:28] <Cyrano_De> Amber2: No, for wget commands you need to run them from a terminal window.  Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[05:28] <Amber2> Can you help me in query?
[05:29] <KarmicNull>  figured since ndis was messin up id try those
[05:29] <Amber2> its hard with everyone else talking
[05:29] <maco> !pl | away
[05:29] <KarmicNull> but it gives out build errors but yeah what u think easiest solution the best??? just downgrade to the old kernel?
[05:29] <yagoo> KarmicNull, you still didnt answer my question.. was .24 working well with it, and what is it in .25 that you need u dont get in .24 ?
[05:29] <izinucs> Amber2: use nicks.. type the first part of a nick and hit TAB for auto completion.. it should highlight on the receiving end.. if they use your nick it should highlight for you
[05:30] <Amber2> ok
[05:30] <izinucs> Amber2: makes it easier to ignore the stuff you don't want to read.
[05:30] <KarmicNull> yes it was and nothing...i needed nothing in the new kernel it just came with the updates
[05:30] <Amber2> I know how to use IRC
[05:30] <Amber2> Lol
[05:30] <KarmicNull> i didnt select it i let my system do the selecting on the updates
[05:30] <yagoo> KarmicNull, so boot up with the .24 kernel
[05:30] <izinucs> Amber2: yet you're still not using nicks... go figure
[05:30] <KarmicNull> it said twas a security update so i didnt argue with it -_-
[05:30] <KarmicNull> erm...the update breaks it?
[05:31] <KarmicNull> the .24 kerrnel wont load says somethin bout the init or somethin
[05:31] <yagoo> KarmicNull, do yuo still have .24 in the grub menu or not?
[05:31] <KarmicNull> cant remember exactly
[05:31] <Godfiend> Hello wonderful people of #Ubuntu. I have a sound issue with firefox.
[05:31] <KarmicNull> yup i do
[05:31] <yagoo> KarmicNull, oh
[05:31] <KarmicNull> but when i try to boot it its messed up
[05:31] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: how did you try to install ath9k?
[05:31] <Godfiend> When firefox is open, only firefox has sound output.
[05:31] <WilliamHerry> chromium is worth to try
[05:31] <KarmicNull> lets see
[05:31] <Godfiend> And no other program can output any sound.
[05:32] <KarmicNull> i tried the apt linux backports install
[05:32] <Godfiend> When firefox is closed, other programs work fine. What do?
[05:32] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: please one line
[05:32] <KarmicNull> ive tried to manually compile it from tar.bz2 with the compat wireless
[05:32] <xangua> Godfiend: are you using ubuntu hardy¿
[05:32] <WilliamHerry> what action case this
[05:32] <xangua> 8.04*
[05:32] <Godfiend> xangua: Yes I am, sir.
[05:32] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: Im using ath9k, have been for awhile.  It in theory should be well supported at this point
[05:32] <xangua> Godfiend: there was a package to fix that, i can¿t remember how is called
[05:33] <KarmicNull> oh sorry dan ^_^ but anyway i run into build errors when installing it from tarball and the apt way just doesnt work at all
[05:33] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: do you have a bug report open?
[05:33] <KarmicNull> no no i don't
[05:33] <Godfiend> Hmmm... I'll look through some package stuff.
[05:33] <KarmicNull> i really dont understand why compiling it isnt working i've done everything thats worked for everyone else
[05:33] <xangua> Godfiend: what's the output of : aptitude search pulse  ¿
[05:34] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: for ath9k, I think you should open a bug report if linux-backports-modules-lucid-generic didn't work
[05:34] <KarmicNull> okay ill do that but it still doesnt help me figure out why even AFTER i install that driver it still wont show my wireless networks
[05:35] <KarmicNull> and im still new enough to not know how to probe that driver lol
[05:35] <Godfiend> xangua: http://pastebin.com/0GMMXpHk
[05:35] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: well, you should just install it and it will work.  What is it that you were compiling?  Madwifi?
[05:36] <KarmicNull> well i did and it didnt lol but all the same i was compiling the driver directly from tarball from the compat wireless drivers
[05:36] <xangua> Godfiend: you need to install: libflashsupport
[05:36] <xangua> then just close the browser and that should fix it
[05:37] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: did you "make install" stuff?  because that puts stuff on your system that is hard to track
[05:37] <xangua> !info libflashsupport hardy
[05:37] <KarmicNull> no i didnt run the make install yet because it ran into make errors
[05:37] <KarmicNull> and if it errors in make its gonna error in make install
[05:37] <xangua> Godfiend: you could also try to install the latest flashplugin from adobe's web
[05:37] <ChogyDan> so what happens with the backports driver?
[05:38] <Godfiend> xangua: I did sudo-apt-get for it, terminal seems to think it worked fine; checking it now :)
[05:38] <arghDNS> have 19 domains. I have setup one as a "core" domain, and performed the "add host" via domain manager on godaddy. So now I have NS1.coredomain.com and ns2.coredomain.com pointed towards pub ip #1 and pub ip#2 i will be using ispCP, not webmin or any other panel (plesk, whm/cpanel), as i will also create "reseller accounts". Question #! what should the hostname of the server be? Q #2 do I add that an an A or CNAME Q #3 should resolve.conf look at <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:38] <arghDNS>  or pub IP#1 and pub IP#2 and what should search and the other line say? A few more questions for anyone who thinks they can help.
[05:38] <KarmicNull> ive weent back to a fresh install three times making sure that none of my other failures conflicted with my new attempts at getting this wireless card to work properly
[05:39] <Godfiend> xangua: Thank you sir, that solved it!
[05:39] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: well, I would get a bug report going, ubuntu-bug linux
[05:40] <KarmicNull> alright well thank you and like i said the backports driver...it just doesnt work
[05:40] <KarmicNull> the light on the adapter doesnt flash the wireless networks dont show up in my network manager icon it just plain doesnt work for me lol
[05:41] <ChogyDan> KarmicNull: did you make the report?  post the link
[05:42] <Curator> can anyone help me?
[05:42] <Curator> i'm running ubuntu in vmware
[05:42] <tiox> And?
[05:42] <Curator> i updated ubuntu, and now when i try and boot, i cannot make any actions on the login screen
[05:42] <Curator> i can't move my cursor, click, or input keystrokes
[05:42] <jo-erlend> how do I increase the refresh rate of my monitor in lucid?
[05:42]  * tiox doesn't know -- has no experience
[05:42] <jo-erlend> it's limited to 60Hz, but it should be capable of _way_ more than that.
[05:43] <tiox> Hmmm...
[05:43] <jags> when I boot ubuntu gnome-panel will randomly load the notification area with a big black space in it, there is no icon there just a black space, I can unload and reload the notification area to fix it, its just random and confusing, any ideas?
[05:43] <tiox> Try opening from terminal with sudo privileges.
[05:43] <tiox> Might unlock the refresh rate dialog. (Never know.)
[05:44] <tiox> But also, I am as well limited to sixty.
[05:44] <tiox> So I am not entirely sure.
[05:45] <op_amp> How to join multiple channels in pigdin while logging in?
[05:45] <op_amp> automatically.
[05:45] <AliTarihi> Hi there, I have a My Book IT and trying to re
[05:45] <xangua> op_amp: add the channel(s) to you buddy list> right clic> autojoin
[05:45] <AliTarihi> oops
[05:46] <AliTarihi> Hi there, I have a My Book IT and trying to mount it via eSata external pci-express. I cant see any new /dev. What should I do ?
[05:47] <Curator> anyone have experience with ubuntu vmware?
[05:47] <jo-erlend> Curator, ask a question.
[05:47] <KarmicNull> okay gettin the bug report up now
[05:47] <Curator> i asked it earlier
[05:47] <Curator> someone said they weren't familiar with vmware
[05:47] <jo-erlend> ok, then.
[05:48] <Curator> my question
[05:48] <Curator> i updated ubuntu, and now when i try and boot, i cannot make any actions on the login screen.  i can't move my cursor, click, or input keystrokes
[05:48] <new_> hi anyone speak spanish?
[05:48] <Curator> this is ubuntu in vmware
[05:48] <jo-erlend> Curator, vmware what? They have many products.
[05:48] <Curator> sorry
[05:48] <Curator> vmware player
[05:49] <jo-erlend> oh, ok. What host?
[05:49] <Curator> host?
[05:49] <Curator> oh
[05:49] <Curator> host OS
[05:49] <jo-erlend> the physical machine. What is it, and what operating system does it run?
[05:49] <Curator> windows 7 64-bit
[05:49] <Curator> note
[05:49] <Curator> this only happened after i updated ubuntu
[05:49] <jo-erlend> have you installed vmware-tools?
[05:49] <Curator> it's ran perfectly before this
[05:49] <Curator> yes
[05:49] <WilliamHerry> Ctrl+Alt+Space then Ctrl+Alt+F1
[05:49] <Curator> maybe updating ubuntu killed it or something
[05:50] <jo-erlend> sounds strange. Have you tried with VirtualBox?
[05:50] <Curator> is virtualbox better?
[05:50] <jo-erlend> by far. I haven't used vmware for several years.
[05:50] <WilliamHerry> vmware is ok
[05:50] <Curator> williamherry: it takes no input at all
[05:51] <Curator> but hey, i've always thought vmware was kind of stuttery and slow
[05:51] <Curator> if virtualbox is better...
[05:51] <jo-erlend> Curator, can you reach it using ssh?
[05:51] <Curator> i don't think i have any sort of SSH running on it
[05:51] <Curator> here's the thing though
[05:51] <Curator> i had this issue once before. i updated ubuntu, couldn't login, and my resolution was stuck at like 800x600
[05:51] <Curator> then i did SOMETHING, i can't remember what, that let me log in. and i reinstalled vmware-tools and everything worked fine
[05:52] <valil> guru
[05:52] <Curator> both times caused by updates
[05:52] <jo-erlend> Curator, try #VMWare
[05:52] <Curator> i did
[05:52] <Curator> i asked a question there earlier
[05:52] <valil> hi sudaya
[05:52] <Curator> channel is inactive
[05:52] <valil> i have some problem with yahoo messenger
[05:52] <jo-erlend> Curator, heh... People are sleeping. It's 6:50AM here. And it's saturday.
[05:52] <valil> i dont know no how to install yamessenger in ubuntu
[05:52] <Curator> ah
[05:52] <jo-erlend> come to think of it... I'm going to sleep myself. nite. :)
[05:53] <Curator> 6:50? damn
[05:53] <Curator> where do you live, britain?
[05:53] <Curator> oh, norway
[05:53] <Gerwin> jo-erlend: Weak, you're sleeping this early? :(
[05:53] <valil> any one can respond for my query
[05:53] <Curator> yeah i live in america
[05:53] <jo-erlend> Gerwin, yeah, I've been programming for about 30 hours...
[05:53] <StrangeCharm> when i try to use the startup disk creator to copy the ubuntu install disk onto a usb drive, it just says 'installation failed' and closes. what's going on?
[05:53] <betts> hello
[05:54] <new_> i dont know no how to update mi grub to my live cd
[05:54] <el_seano> so, I'm trying to get Ubuntu to load my preferred wireless module by default at boot as opposed to the module it typically loads.  I'm looking at /etc/modules, but it doesn't list either of the modules I'm looking to mess with.  Would it be wise to put my preferred modules name here?
[05:55] <WilliamHerry> valil: you can use pidgin
[05:55] <aarcane> okay, when I go to start -> disk management, it pulls up a cool program.  what's the command line to start that program ?
[05:56] <rww> betts: FloodBot is not sentient.
[05:57] <new_> please somebody helpme
[05:57] <new_> i dont know no how to update mi grub to my live cd
[05:58] <bullgard4> How much disk space takes a Query in OO.o Base 3.2.1?
[05:58] <WilliamHerry> aarcane: baobab
[05:58] <ubuXubu> lea123, hi
[05:58] <AliTarihi> Hi there, I have a My Book  and trying to mount it via eSata external pci-express. I cant see any new /dev. What should I do ?
[05:59] <tittu> hello everybody. I want to connect mobile broadband from my " samsung c3010s ", can somebody help me with that. When i connect my nokia mobile to my system, my internet gets connected automatically in a second, but when i connect my samsung mobile, ubuntu doesnt detect my mobile. Is there some software/driver that i need to download ? I am using ubuntu 9.10
[06:00] <StrangeCharm> when i try to use the startup disk creator to copy the ubuntu install disk onto a usb drive, it just says 'installation failed' and closes. what's going on?
[06:01] <KarmicNull> sorry it took so l;ong
[06:03] <KarmicNull> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/674796
[06:03] <tittu> can anybody please tell me how to connect internet from " samsung c3010s" on my desktop running ubuntu 9.10
[06:03] <KarmicNull> anyone got any other suggestions....besides another fresh install
[06:07] <bo_> so anybody have a link to a setup tutorial. I just purchased a dedicated server, it's in texas and I'm in South Carolina, I can ssh in and I get a ubuntu 9.x server terminal. but I want to install some sort of gui. I realize that this is done everyday so im just looking for a link to some info
[06:07] <jep1985> you generally don't have that kind of access
[06:07] <Code-E> Empathy is stuck at connecting to MSN. Ive tried connecting like 10 times... Is there a reaon for this?
[06:07] <jep1985> you might contact the support staff wherever you bought the server from
[06:09] <hotaling> test
[06:09] <jep1985> hi
[06:09] <bo_> they charge for suport apparently
[06:10] <jep1985> what are you using the server for
[06:10] <jep1985> and why do you need a gui so desperately
[06:10] <bo_> LAMP mostly, but allso gaming and vent etc
[06:11] <bo_> because im a linux noob
[06:11] <jep1985> well
[06:11] <jep1985> you may not be able to host vent
[06:11] <jep1985> or game servers
[06:11] <jep1985> need to make sure its not just a web host first of all :P
[06:11] <jep1985> if its a web host, that means LAMP only
[06:11] <corey__> list
[06:11] <bo_> well source games have linux server support
[06:11] <jmdesigner81> bo_:  I dont understand why you need a gui. What are you trying to do?
[06:12] <jep1985> some do yes, but the problem lies in what permissions you're given with ssh
[06:12] <jep1985> you may be limited to executing web content only
[06:12] <jep1985> who did you purchase hosting from
[06:12] <bo_> its a dedicated server, not lamp only
[06:13] <bo_> the planet
[06:13] <jep1985> ahh
[06:13] <jep1985> well
[06:13] <jep1985> edit configuration files and such locally then upload to your server
[06:13] <jep1985> scp nameoffile user@host:./nameoffile
[06:13] <jep1985> transfers a file
[06:14] <Gary_B> so in a fresh Linux Mint instal do i need to enable the ufw firewall?
[06:14] <jep1985> and this is a perfect time to learn linux, bo_ =)
[06:14] <bazhang> Gary_B, ask in a mint support channel
[06:14] <bazhang> !mintsupport > Gary_B
[06:14] <xangua> !mint | Gary_B
[06:14] <Gary_B> bazhang: ok
[06:14] <bo_> yeah it rocks, im a desktop user now for a year, but my server has been winblows
[06:14] <bo_> so im trying to switch to linux
[06:15] <bullgard4> How much disk space takes a Query in OO.o Base 3.2.1?
[06:15] <jep1985> well.. if you're not 100% comfortable with a complete gui environment, you can use webmin to start..
[06:15] <jep1985> http://www.webmin.com
[06:15] <jep1985> lets you configure some predetermined server variables, you may be able to find a plugin for ventrilo
[06:16] <jep1985> if all else fails, test in a virtual machine
[06:16] <bazhang> !webmin | jep1985
[06:16] <bo_> yeah I can set up webmin, I looked into that
[06:16] <jep1985> its not supported, no, but it still works lol
[06:16] <Blue1> anyone having issues with kontact, or is it just me?
[06:16] <ljsoftnet> my usb flash drive is not detected by unetbootin, how do i detect it?
[06:16] <jmdesigner81> bo_: command line is very easy to learn. bought this book to start http://is.gd/gZuUq and love it.
[06:16] <jep1985> ljsoftnet are you running as sudo?
[06:16] <el_seano> so, I'm trying to get Ubuntu to load my preferred wireless module by default at boot as opposed to the module it typically loads.  I'm looking at /etc/modules, but it doesn't list either of the modules I'm looking to mess with.  Would it be wise to put my preferred modules name here?
[06:17] <bo_> I just want to have a gnome or openbox or somthing so that it's just as convenient aas windows server
[06:17] <ljsoftnet> jep1985 i dont know
[06:17] <Blue1> bazhang: I have been using webmin on ubuntu for about 18 months - I've had no issues
[06:17] <jep1985> how are you launching unetbootin? clicking an icon?
[06:17] <jmdesigner81> jep1985: if it's not supported i wouldnt recommed it :)
[06:17] <jep1985> i've been using it for a couple years, since they took the libmd5 bs out of webmin it works just fine
[06:18] <Blue1> jep1985: yyup
[06:18] <jep1985> thats the only problem i've ever had with it
[06:18] <ljsoftnet> jep1985 yes
[06:19] <jep1985> ljsoftnet try it from command line? "sudo unetbootin" in a terminal?
[06:19] <bo_> well for now I'll just try webmin, but I would like to some day install gnome or somthing
[06:19] <bullgard4> [Maverick] How can I remove all KDE DEB program packages? I need more free disk space on my hard disk.
[06:20] <aHardyX_> How do I boot any iso file from grub2.........I can see tuts only for linux distro iso
[06:20] <bazhang> bullgard4, using gnome now?
[06:20] <ljsoftnet> jep1985 still no drives
[06:20] <bullgard4> bazhang: Yes.
[06:20] <bazhang> bullgard4, /msg ubottu puregnome
[06:21] <jep1985> d/ling unetbootin.. sec
[06:21] <rww> b0_: 1) webmin isn't supported on Ubuntu due to configuration file craziness. 2) http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI
[06:22] <rww> bo_: ^^^
[06:22] <jep1985> i agree rww
[06:22] <jep1985> 20% of the "packages" you have to goof with the config files, but those aren't the ones i use
[06:23] <rww> ubottu: webmin
[06:23] <sresu> How to hibernate?
[06:23] <rammyIRC> how to see if the ubuntu wireless card is supported or not
[06:23] <sresu> !info hibernate
[06:24] <Blue1> rww: I think firefox NOT working on 64 bit systems are more of an issue, then mark shuttleworth doesn't like webmin.
[06:24] <sresu> Hibernate doesn't resume after saving to disk? How to fix it?
[06:24] <rww> Blue1: Mark Shuttleworth has nothing to do with webmin's lack of support in Debian and Ubuntu, and Firefox works fine on my 64-bit system.
[06:24] <Blue1> sresu: I've never had good luck with hibernate so don;t use it.
[06:25] <Blue1> rww: what's the secret of ff working on 64 bit systems then?
[06:25] <matrix> rammyirc easy way just use livecd test first
[06:25] <sresu> Blue1: Well, I suppose many other users have it functional
[06:25] <rww> Blue1: sudo apt-get install firefox and you're done.
[06:25] <rww> for me, anyway.
[06:25] <Blue1> rww: it locks up my system here.
[06:25] <rammyIRC> no i already installed
[06:25] <rww> Blue1: congratulations
[06:25] <matrix> ok
[06:25] <rammyIRC> ethernet conn works
[06:25] <Blue1> rww: others have reported same problem - so it's not just me.
[06:26] <rammyIRC> but wireless is not enabled
[06:26] <matrix> rammyirc is it usb device u have
[06:26] <bo_> now I have a new problem lol. the planet staff sent me this picture of a error message that it's giving http://www.boisapunk.com/pics/img00360.jpeg
[06:26] <rammyIRC> no
[06:26] <rammyIRC> built in laptop
[06:26] <ljsoftnet> my usb flash drive is not detected by unetbootin, how do i detect it?
[06:26] <jep1985> Blue1, google chrome has a NATIVE linux version now
[06:26] <bo_> sorry re link http://www.boisapunk.com/pics/img00360.jpg
[06:26] <jep1985> !chrome
[06:27] <matrix> rammyirc check this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[06:27] <Blue1> jep1985: use but chrome does NOT offer to save passwords, even though that;s enabled -- so using opera.
[06:27] <Cyrano_De> Blue1: I'm not sure I would blame Ubuntu for Firefox locking up a system.  Firefox has become the definition of bloat.  It locks up on every OS 32 bit or 64 bit for me.
[06:27] <jep1985> ahh
[06:27] <cylob> anybody know a good 3rd party youtube viewing program?
[06:27] <Blue1> Cyrano_De: it works fine on my 32 bit systems - just not 64
[06:27] <xangua> !info chromium-browser | jep1985 Blue1
[06:27] <jep1985> have you tried Galeon or Seamonkey Blue1?
[06:28] <matrix> what version do you run rammyirc
[06:28] <Blue1> jep1985: nope never heard of either...
[06:28] <rammyIRC> ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[06:28] <Blue1> jep1985: odd thing, chrome and opera work fine, just not ff
[06:28] <matrix> ok 32 or 64 bit
[06:28] <rammyIRC> 32 bit
[06:28] <bullgard4> bazhang: Thank you very much for your help.
[06:29] <Blue1> !seamonkey
[06:29] <Blue1> hmm worth checking out
[06:29] <jep1985> yep
[06:29] <Cyrano_De> cylob: I don't know how good they are, I use chrome, but there is minitube and totem has a youtube plugin.
[06:29] <jep1985> Galeon is also decent
[06:29] <jep1985> i haven't bothered with opera too much
[06:29] <matrix> ok do u see networkmanager in upper right corner
[06:30] <Blue1> !galeon
[06:30] <administrator__> hello
[06:30] <Blue1> :-(
[06:30] <jmdesigner81> i installed postfix but sendmail is still listening on port 25. how do i kill sendmail process from listening?
[06:30] <rammyIRC> matrix: i see network manager
[06:30] <maco> !info galeon | Blue1
[06:30] <administrator__> hello everybody
[06:30] <rammyIRC> it says the wireless networks , device not ready
[06:30] <matrix> did you try to clcik on it see if you see your wifi or others
[06:30] <sresu> !info sleep
[06:30] <matrix> ok i see
[06:31] <administrator__> hi
[06:31] <Blue1> jep1985: thanks I d/l will try tomorrow
[06:31] <jep1985> alrighty
[06:31] <rammyIRC> matrix: are u able to access the problem
[06:31] <matrix> i am trying
[06:31] <jep1985> i'm on the endless quest for a noob friendly server environment
[06:31] <Blue1> jep1985: brain is toast from getting vpn working.
[06:31] <jep1985> *developing
[06:32] <matrix> can you get me any onfo about what you have
[06:32] <rammyIRC> thanks... hope u r able to figure out
[06:32] <jep1985> yes that's my next chore
[06:32] <matrix> i am trying to help you
[06:32] <Cyrano_De> jmdesigner81: jmdesigner81 "/etc/init.d/sendmail stop"
[06:32] <jep1985> soon as i stop installing different distros on my virt server
[06:32] <matrix> will do anything i can
[06:32] <jep1985> always end up back with ubuntu..
[06:32] <DuckMaestro> possibly off-topic: if im installing ubuntu on a mac mini, should i set clock as UTC or no?
[06:33] <Flannel> DuckMaestro: Are you dualbooting?
[06:33] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: yes, UTC
[06:33] <DuckMaestro> yes
[06:33] <DuckMaestro> yes, to dualbooting
[06:33] <damxin> i think UTC is OK
[06:33] <Cyrano_De> jep1985: What are you trying to serve?  Files, printers, websites?
[06:33] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: Mac is a UNIX/BSD blah blah type OS so its all UTC
[06:34] <matrix> when you type lspci -v | less what do you get
[06:34] <DuckMaestro> rdw200169: thanks. makes sense.
[06:34] <jep1985> oh i can do it from the CLI no problem, this is just a project i'd like to start sometime to get more people to choose linux over windows
[06:34] <jep1985> i.e. a linux "Server Manager" comparable to the server manager gui in windows server 2008
[06:34] <jmdesigner81> Cyrano_De: thanks!
[06:35] <jmdesigner81> Cyrano_De: i'm still having trouble installing postfix. it's not working properly
[06:35] <rdw200169> jep1985: there used to be webmin, but i found it to be cumbersome... i find that the power of a linux server comes from its endless configurability and inevitable difficulty
[06:35] <rammyIRC> i tried tht
[06:35] <Blue1> jep1985: I am stepping away from squishy machine - thanks for your help - I will leave you with this bit of bash humour (don;t shoot) --  http://bash.org/?925793
[06:35] <omar> INVITE #ubuntu
[06:35] <Cyrano_De> jep1985: I have not played with it but ebox looks like it has a bit of that.  There is always freenas as well.
[06:35] <matrix> rammyirc if your card is not suported you can always use ndswrapper and use windows driver for your card
[06:35] <rammyIRC> i dont see that it detected my wireless
[06:36] <matrix> ok
[06:36] <rammyIRC> oh how is that
[06:36] <jep1985> ebox is so SLOW though
[06:36] <jep1985> and i can't really get it to do what i want it to do anyway
[06:36] <matrix> i understand that what do you get when you do a dmesg tail
[06:36] <Cyrano_De> So it emulates Windows perfectly....
[06:36] <kirkmoreno> Anyone know of a QR-Code generator for ubuntu?
[06:36] <jep1985> but i'm going for something via gtk
[06:36] <jep1985> well yes
[06:36] <Maahes> rdw200169: servers are not hard in linux so long as you don't need anything exotic. And then, when you need exotic things, not hard after you've spent the time writing a bunch of deployment scripts and beating your head against a wall
[06:36] <jep1985> its intended audience will be people who are using windows now
[06:37] <rdw200169> Maahes: for you and I, yes, but i was referring to jep1985 's intended audience
[06:37] <jep1985> for me i'd rather use command line
[06:37] <matrix> rammyirc can you do a dmesg tail and give me output please
[06:37] <jep1985> for those rare instances i need a gui i'll fire up fluxbox to use firefox for whatever reason i need it
[06:38] <rammyIRC> im restarting
[06:38] <Cyrano_De> I gave up on trying to convert admins.  I happily show them what can be done and how to do it if they ask.
[06:38] <matrix> make sure you pastebin it
[06:38] <rdw200169> jep1985: the intended audience should be people who actually know what they're doing with servers in the first place... if they can run a web server on Windows Server, IIS or whatever, they should be able to apply the same concepts in Linux... if they can't, then they are proving that they didn't know what they were doing in the first place.
[06:38] <matrix> ok
[06:38] <jmdesigner81> does anyone know how to fix this postfix/trivial-rewrite[25014]: fatal: proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_domains.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem ?
[06:39] <matrix> dont give up rammyirc something simple
[06:39] <rdw200169> jep1985: all you're doing is re-affirming how completely useless all those arcane and wasteful certifications are, like Net+, Server+, MCSE, etc...
[06:39] <rammyIRC> yeah i will try
[06:39] <Cyrano_De> rdw200169: The MCSE program and Windows Adminsistration philosophy puts a lot of "didn't know what they were doing in the first place" administrators out there in the wild.
[06:39] <jep1985> haha
[06:40] <jep1985> i'm in the process of moving my employer to linux
[06:40] <rdw200169> Cyrano_De: haha, i think i beat you to that punch, hahahaha
[06:40] <jep1985> i've already got them using ubuntu for our POS software
[06:40] <teco> hello
[06:40] <rudyl313> does anybody know of a tool that I can use to log exactly what files are added/deleted/modified in the filesystem when a run a series of commands?
[06:40] <matrix> jep1985 sounds good
[06:40] <jep1985> working on consolidating some of the junk in the server room into 1 single virtual serve
[06:41] <jep1985> i almost broke my arm yesterday :( i've been here 2 months, i think rats moved into the jumble o wires hehe
[06:41] <jep1985> it has it's own creature
[06:41] <teco> anyone working with the new volume app development?
[06:41] <rdw200169> jep1985: no no, 2 server clones with a heartbeat backup running between them...
[06:41] <jep1985> i've not gotten that advanced with it yet
[06:41] <matrix> yes indeed but opensource so much more powerful then windoze
[06:41] <Cyrano_De> I'm going crazy at my new job with SuSE.  Novell insists on a full desktop install on SLES (The last "S" refering to server) in order to install and run OES (Netware hacked onto the back of Linux)
[06:41] <jep1985> and it's only going to be replacing 5 servers.. i'm not lucky enough to need a clustered setup hehe
[06:42] <matrix> anything takes time just have to be patient and keep learning
[06:42] <jep1985> i'd give my left arm to be let loose in a datacenter level virtualization scenario
[06:42] <zacstone> why my ubuntu said its at 120hz while my 120hz LCD monitor said its NOT at 120hz?!
[06:42] <teco> which channel has the ubuntu developers?
[06:42] <zacstone> its always been same problem since i upgraded to Ubuntu 10.10
[06:43] <rdw200169> teco: hahahah you think they would tell us?
[06:43] <Cyrano_De> rudyl313: You can install and turn on the auditd tools.
[06:43] <jep1985> i'm going to get down to doing the LFS project eventually, i'd like to learn a lot more
[06:43] <jep1985> need to eat a couple linux bibles i think
[06:43] <rudyl313> Cyrano_De: thanks I'll look into that
[06:43] <zacstone> somebody would help me out, I'm not really happy about this, Ubuntu should already have support ubuntu and 120hz LCD monitors at 120hz already
[06:44] <tim_> Hi I am having a little trouble with samba. Using mint 10. smb.conf can be viewed here http://pastebin.com/LWG8zKLf - smbclient //localhost works on server end, but using smbclient on client end, i get a message saying "NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_REPONSE", ports 139 and 445 are open. Any ideas?
[06:44] <rdw200169> zachlr: its possible that there is a miscommunication between your monitor and X11...
[06:44] <matrix> jep1985 it is ok to read some of the books but personal i think many of the books are the same
[06:44] <jep1985> heh.. i'm just not sure where to look for "training"
[06:45] <jep1985> the google approach has been working but it's slow
[06:45] <matrix> jep1985 learn much from just doing it learn from mistakes
[06:45] <jep1985> hehe
[06:45] <rdw200169> zachlr: it may also depend on how old your monitor is... older monitors don't support EDID's and such that report to X Windows exactly what values for width/height/frequency it works for
[06:46] <jep1985> ive really got to read some of the kvm/libvirt documentation, i'm finding out it does stuff that i couldn't get it to do "out of the box"
[06:46] <jep1985> which in turn caused me to go crazy trying to find a hypervisor i cared about.. heh.. always kept reinstalling ubuntu
[06:46] <Cyrano_De> rudyl313: changetrack, collectd, dnotify and fam might also work well for you.
[06:46] <rdw200169> jep1985: i never really got into that whole xen/kvm thing... i mostly like messing with ultra SSO setups for internet connection sharing and such
[06:47] <matrix> jep1985 ok
[06:47] <jep1985> i've used virtualbox (non ose) and vmware
[06:47] <matrix> jep1985 how long time have you been using linux
[06:47] <zacstone> 10.10 is buggy! somebody have idea why it won't run in 120hz mode?
[06:47] <rudyl313> Cyrano_De: awesome thanks :)
[06:47] <jmdesigner81> got this error while installing postfix Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:47] <kish> I HAVE THIS PROBLEM http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592121
[06:47] <kish> whaps
[06:47] <kish> ion 2 wont run
[06:48] <jep1985> i recently figured out how to stop using my router and just use the virt server with a router distro in a virtual machine to do my routing
[06:48] <zacstone> anybody with 120hz LCD monitor that got ubuntu with nvidia drivers to run at 120hz
[06:48] <jmdesigner81> it says "Errors were encountered while processing: postfix"
[06:48] <zacstone> it stuck at 60hz.
[06:48] <jep1985> matrix i've been using linux for about 5 years
[06:48] <workbench> whats a lite gui for ubuntu/linux?
[06:48] <jep1985> i started with Mandrake, before that mandriva business
[06:48] <jep1985> well technically i started with fedora core 2
[06:48] <Nisstyre65> workbench: openbox is one
[06:48] <Cyrano_De> kish: You installed the Nvidia binary drivers?
[06:48] <zacstone> yes
[06:48] <jmdesigner81> anyone know how to install postfix?
[06:48] <Nisstyre65> or any one of a million other light window managers
[06:48] <jmdesigner81> if it's broken
[06:49] <matrix> jep1985 ok very nice i can see you do have passion for it thats great
[06:49] <Cyrano_De> Nvidia has been nothing but a pita for me over the last several years.
[06:49] <kindlebit> anyone know , how to install torrent downloader ?
[06:49] <rdw200169> kindlebit: look up Transmission in the Software Center
[06:49] <tim_> I am having trouble with samba. I am using nautilus with naut-share enabled. mint 10 installed on both computers. smb.conf can be viewed here http://pastebin.com/LWG8zKLf - smbclient //localhost works on server end, but using smbclient on client end, i get a message saying "NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_REPONSE", ports 139 and 445 are open. Any ideas?
[06:49] <Cyrano_De> Every new kernel and I have to do a reinstall of the drivers from the console to get the system to work again.
[06:49] <matrix> jep1985 i did start with redhat then suse and few others
[06:49] <kish> cyrano_de, yes
[06:49] <jep1985> well .. i've been using it exclusively for 5 years
[06:50] <zacstone> nvidia, 120hz LCD ASUS monitor and Ubuntu 10.10 =  8[06:50] <jep1985> i tried FC2 in like 2000 i think?
[06:50] <kish> from the console
[06:50] <jep1985> windows xp had just come out, i had windows 98 and couldn't afford xp..
[06:50] <matrix> jep1985 i only have linux on my computers also
[06:50] <kish> i installed it from the gnome notification thingy cyrano_de
[06:50] <rdw200169> !mint > tim_
[06:50] <jep1985> i have windows for one pesky application i can't get to run under wine
[06:50] <kish> you know, the popup you get for proprietary drivers
[06:50] <Cyrano_De> kindlebit: sudo apt-get install qbittorrent deluge rtorrent
[06:50] <jep1985> even then it's in a VM hehe
[06:50] <matrix> jep1985 i hear you i have one thing i still need windows for and it is cadcam
[06:51] <kindlebit> rdw200169 : i am very new to this , but i need to install it
[06:51] <jep1985> right now i'm playing with openvpn and using LDAP as a replacement for active directory
[06:51] <kindlebit> rdw200169 : in software center i do not find any Transmission  :(
[06:52] <jmdesigner81> cant find the directory postfix. get this message -> /etc/postfix/postfix-script: not found
[06:52] <jmdesigner81> postfix/postfix-script: fatal: Postfix integrity check failed!
[06:52] <jmdesigner81>    ...fail!
[06:52] <matrix> jep1985 ok interesting
[06:52] <jep1985> bout the only downside is the inability to use the GPO function, but i can pass group policies with a script at login time so.. negates that anyway
[06:52] <kindlebit> cyrano : thanks , let me try
[06:52] <zacstone> nobody have the answer to my question?
[06:52] <zacstone> and explain to me why it won't do 120hz?
[06:53] <matrix> jep1985 yes there is many ways to do things in linux some times simple script do the trick
[06:53] <greezmunkey> tim_: sudo smbpasswd at the server, add a smb username for clients that will be connecting.
[06:53] <jep1985> I'm sorry zacstone i can't help you.. i don't know much about that
[06:53] <kindlebit> cyrano : it gives this error "E: Couldn't find package qbittorrent"
[06:53] <Nikkk> Hello - I'm trying to configure LAMP server on my ubuntu 10.04 OS. However, during the mySQL install, the system hasn't prompt me to enter root password. But, all the articles on the web shows it prompts for pasword. What could be the MYSQL password now ? :(
[06:53] <kindlebit> cyrano : what to do now ?
[06:53] <zacstone> jep1985, that really sucks
[06:53] <jep1985> matrix: whenever i have to do administrative stuff in windows it takes me longer to do it than normal because i'm trying to use linux commands!
[06:53] <jmdesigner81> i'm having trouble installing postfix...
[06:54] <rdw200169> kindlebit: you need to enable the Universe repositories
[06:54] <jep1985> i.e. using the command line, ls instead of dir
[06:54] <jmdesigner81> i deleted the postfix directory. how do i get it back? how do i install it manually?
[06:54] <jep1985> mv instead of move
[06:54] <zacstone> jep1985, been since ubuntu 10.10 released and there isn't fix for it
[06:54] <jmdesigner81> dir works in ubuntu 10.00
[06:54] <jep1985> i'm still using 10.04
[06:54] <rdw200169> !universe > kindlebit
[06:54] <matrix> jep1985 thats a good way to froce you todo more command line way to go
[06:54] <greezmunkey> jep1985: write win batch files to alias common 'nix type commands
[06:54] <jep1985> i won't upgrade until 10.10 has been out awhile longer
[06:54] <jep1985> of course it does jmdesigner, but ls doesn't work in the windows command prompt ;)
[06:54] <rdw200169> jep1985: gotta love LDAP for powerful account management...
[06:55] <jep1985> i'm pissed at microsoft anyway with their windows server 08 series
[06:55] <greezmunkey> ls.bat == dir /w/o/p
[06:55] <jep1985> you can't do true roaming profiles
[06:55] <matrix> jep1985 i just did upgrade i have no regret but 10.04 LTS is still more safe to go  with
[06:55] <Cyrano_De> kindlebit: try ctorrent ktorrent aria2 azureus bittornado bitstormlite
[06:55] <kindlebit> rdw200169 : Universe repositories what is that , how to enable that .. please
[06:55] <jmdesigner81> can anyone help me installing postfix please?
[06:55] <jep1985> i have an ATI chipset heh
[06:55] <siji> Hi All
[06:56] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: I'm no expert with postfix, but what problem are you having?
[06:56] <bullgard4> How much disk space takes a Query in OO.o Base 3.2.1?
[06:56] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: i deleted the directory postfix.
[06:57] <siji> Am trying to configure Multitouch monitor with Ubuntu 101.10
[06:57] <siji> 10.10
[06:57] <Cyrano_De> zacstone: Could it be related to this?  http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/290737-33-120hz-displaying-60hz-refresh-rate
[06:57] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: is this on a production server, or a hobby machine?
[06:57] <siji> So anybody can tell me how to enable it
[06:57] <rdw200169> kindlebit: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager : Settings -> Repositories : Check "Community-maintained Open Source Software (Universe)
[06:57] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: now i need to get it back but it's giving me an error. i thought by doing sudo apt-get remove postfix then installing later would reinstall it
[06:57] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: hobby machine
[06:57] <ndroftheline> i can't ssh into my ubuntu computer from my external address. i have the port forwarded.
[06:57] <zacstone> Cyrano_De, my monitor is 120hz LCD monitor, not 120hz TV.
[06:57] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: its better to purge
[06:58] <kindlebit> rdw200169 : ;let me try
[06:58] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: purge?
[06:58] <matrix> siji check this page http://tnoergaard.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/ubuntu-touch-screen-setup-and-calibration/
[06:58] <siji> ok  thanks
[06:58] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: sudo apt-get purge postfix
[06:58] <ubuntunoob> I'm having trouble with the update manager in version 10.10 is tells me "Failed to download repository information Check your Internet connection."  Is any1 else having this problem???
[06:58] <Nikkk> Anyone to help me ?
[06:58] <matrix> siji i hope it helps you
[06:58] <lea123> I installed the ubuntu over Vista however it isn't showing up as an option to boot into there when i power on the machine VISTA just loads up... Any ideas on how to install the GRUB  during the installation
[06:58] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: did you apt-get clean, and apt-get purge (package name) ??
[06:58] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: it'll wipe out everything postfix installed or configured giving you a clean slate
[06:59] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: I guess those would be reversed.
[06:59] <greezmunkey> rdw200169: ;)
[06:59] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: clean doesn't do anything except wipe out cached packages
[06:59] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey so now to reinstall it i do sudo apt-get install postfix correct?
[07:00] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: purged. now need to reinstall.
[07:00] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: then, of course, you have to redownload after a clean...
[07:00] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: you should still have your config files left once you do that, and reinstall - yes reinstall.
[07:00] <Cyrano_De> ubuntunoob: Go into synaptic  Under settings->repositories, click on the "Download From" drop down.  Select other then click on "select the best server"
[07:00] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: by sudo apt-get install postfix
[07:00] <rdw200169> greezmunkey: jmdesigner81 if he purged, the configuration files are gone too
[07:01] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: greezmunkey yes they are.
[07:01] <aeMaeth> i was just surfing around and opened gnome-terminal to ssh, but it froze on open and locked down everything, i'm on an asus with ubuntu 10.10, not a huge problem, had to restart though :(
[07:01] <greezmunkey> rdw200169: I stand corrected, thanks!
[07:01] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: i'm reinstalling it.
[07:01] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: thanks appreciate it!
[07:01] <ubuntunoob> I'm having trouble with the update manager in version 10.10 is tells me "Failed to download repository information Check your Internet connection."  Is any1 else having this problem???
[07:01] <ndroftheline> anybody have any ideas about why i can't ssh to my linux box from an external address?
[07:01] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: thankfully postfix isn't too hard to configure!
[07:01] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: did it install postfix correctly without errors?
[07:02] <jep1985> is it behind a router?
[07:02] <aeMaeth> ndroftheline, did you porforward the ports on your router?
[07:02] <Cyrano_De> ubuntunoob: See my previous post
[07:02] <jep1985> check to see that port 22 is forwarded to your machine or you have dmz enabled for all web services (no firewall protection)
[07:02] <ndroftheline> jep1985: aeMaeth yes its behind a router and yes i forwarded the ports. i even put the damn thing in dmz. no go.
[07:02] <Cyrano_De> ndroftheline: Did you install the openssh-server package?
[07:02] <iraiyasu> hey I have a question about controlling brightness on my laptop
[07:02] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: i believe it did. I got the configuration dialog.
[07:02] <ndroftheline> Cyrano_De: i can ssh to it from a local computer via its local addrss
[07:02] <Cyrano_De> ndroftheline: The standard install of Ubuntu desktop does not install the server portion.
[07:03] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: very nice sir, now be careful with your postfix, and keep out the crazy spammers!
[07:03] <Nikkk> Hello - I'm trying to configure LAMP server on my ubuntu 10.04 OS. However, during the mySQL install, the system hasn't prompt me to enter root password. But, all the articles on the web shows it prompts for pasword. What could be the MYSQL password now ? :(
[07:03] <kindlebit> rdw200169 :thanks , let me try now to install torrent downloader
[07:03] <Curator> hi, how do i get the grub prompt in vmware?
[07:03] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: i couldnt get postfix to work properly. trying to send out newsletter with php mail() function and it was working. going to try again.
[07:03] <Curator> the grub screen i mean
[07:03] <jep1985> in a virtual machine?
[07:03] <ndroftheline> Cyrano_De: ok. but i can ssh into it from a local system
[07:03] <greezmunkey> rdw200169: isn't SMTP relay turned off by default in postfix?
[07:03] <Curator> yes
[07:03] <Curator> in a virtual machine
[07:04] <jep1985> grub2 or grub-legacy?
[07:04] <Curator> grub2
[07:04] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: Thanks! all i need is to send newsletter that's all. postfix is supposed to be faster than sendmail.
[07:04] <rdw200169> greezmunkey: haha, i have no idea.. i find its easier to just use GoogleApps for my e-mail needs...
[07:04] <Curator> my vmware ubuntu install is messed up
[07:04] <Cyrano_De> Curator: Try hitting the escape button when it is first booting.
[07:04] <Curator> i need to boot into safe mode
[07:04] <jep1985> try hitting the esc button a lot
[07:04] <jep1985> lol
[07:04] <jep1985> i'm not sure how to edit grub.conf to change the timeout..
[07:04] <Cyrano_De> Grub2 is the biggest mistake Canonical has made IMO.
[07:04] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: you will have to verify that postfix is properly sending and recieving mail first, cehck configs, tweak, repeat...
[07:05] <Phoul> Hello folks, what is the update-alternatives string to get your jre
[07:05] <ndroftheline> ok so i can' t ssh into my box from my external ip, but i CAN ssh into it via its local address. i have the ports forarded and i've even tried to put it in dmz. any suggestions?
[07:05] <Phoul> to set your jre*
[07:05] <quiescens> you're supposed to hold shift
[07:05] <rdw200169> Nikkk: don't worry too much about it, you can change it later
[07:05] <Cyrano_De> Putting undocumented beta software in a LTS release was just stupid.
[07:05] <Curator> ummm
[07:05] <Curator> i hit the esc button
[07:05] <Curator> it only gives me the bios boot options
[07:05] <jep1985> do you have a firewall running on your ubuntu box ndroftheline?
[07:05] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: will do sir.
[07:05] <iraiyasu> how can I control the brightness of my laptop LCD in Lucid?
[07:05] <jep1985> select the hd and mash esc
[07:05] <ndroftheline> jep1985: i haven't installed one. does it happen by default?
[07:06] <jep1985> i don't believe so
[07:06] <quiescens> Curator: hold shift as the system boots
[07:06] <ndroftheline> jep1985: how can i check?
[07:06] <jep1985> uh
[07:06] <jep1985> you can try netstat -l in a terminal
[07:07] <jep1985> see if anything is listening on port 22
[07:07] <jep1985> you can also try sudo service ssh restart
[07:07] <Cyrano_De> iraiyasu: My laptop fn keys work for me.  Otherwise add the "Brightness" app to your gnome panel
[07:07] <Curator> ok
[07:07] <Curator> thanks
[07:07] <Curator> and how do i boot into safe mode, qiescens?
[07:07] <jep1985> err
[07:07] <Curator> quiescens
[07:07] <jep1985> sudo service openssh-server restart
[07:07] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: but, if you can access ssh from the local network, <IP_ADDRESS>/24 or whatever, you problem probably lies in the router somewhere... that or your ISP is blocking 22 from somewhere in their systems
[07:08] <matrix> iraiyasu check this https://groups.google.com/group/sjslug/msg/0e96d070a630821c
[07:08] <iraiyasu> cyrano it doesn't work, that's why I'm here, I'm able to change it through the term, but it doesn't stay when I restart
[07:08] <Phoul> Does anyone know how to set the sunjre as the default instead of the open one
[07:08] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: You can change the local port as well, if you need to
[07:08] <Phoul> Im having issues with the open one
[07:08] <ndroftheline> rdw200169: i've talked to my isp, it's not blocked there
[07:08] <matrix> iraiyasu you can make script and then ad it tyour startup apps
[07:09] <Phoul> I cant figure out how to set the defaults.
[07:09] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: make absolute sure you're using the *right* external IP address, especially if your Internet comes from DSL and PPPoE etc... they use several IP's that seem external, when one of them is the actual 'external' ip
[07:09] <ndroftheline> rdw200169:   and i have the damned ports forwarded. i even put it in the dmz.
[07:09] <Cyrano_De> iraiyasu: Your bios have any brightness settings?
[07:09] <quiescens> Curator: I don't know what you're trying to fix, are you just trying to boot to text mode?
[07:09] <Cyrano_De> Phoul: I always un install the open-jdk
[07:09] <Curator> god, my install is just totally ruined
[07:09] <jep1985> ndroftheline have you tried using dynamic dns, i.e. dyndns.org?
[07:09] <Curator> i might just start from scratch
[07:09] <jep1985> well i think Curator is trying to boot into rescue mode
[07:10] <matrix> ha ha
[07:10] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: this in a terminal will give you your external IP: wget -q -O- http://whatismyip.org/
[07:10] <Curator> i accidentally edited the grub boot options, and now i'm stuck in a busybox
[07:10] <Curator> i give up
[07:10] <siji> matrix, I have folowed that doc
[07:10] <Cyrano_De> I'd love to line up every Java developer and kick them all in the balls.....twice
[07:10] <ndroftheline> jep1985: well no, but i don't need a dns reference. i have my external ip address.
[07:10] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: you could even consider putting your modem in a switch mode to bypass the router features, thereby removing that obvious obstacle... i used to do that with Embarq DSL
[07:10] <siji> But it seems like my hardware is not detected
[07:10] <matrix> siji ok did it help you
[07:10] <jep1985> i use it with my router to connect to my IP
[07:10] <Cyrano_De> Flamming pile of unsuportable dung that crap is...
[07:10] <matrix> ok i see
[07:10] <jep1985> i have a dynamic IP with my ISP
[07:10] <siji> Am using Accer T231H
[07:10] <lea123> what should I choose for the Bootloader ?? should it be installed on SDA or sda5,sda6 which is the partions for linux including the swap file area
[07:10] <ndroftheline> rdw200169: i'm not using my modem's router function. it's a satellite connection and it's a very basic modem.
[07:10] <siji> USB
[07:10] <teco> I am having problem with my Xchat client ... it seems to be struck for some moment and throws a bulk of converstion at one go ... any reasons
[07:10] <iraiyasu> Cyrano I'm not sure
[07:11] <iraiyasu> I'll Check
[07:11] <iraiyasu> thanks
[07:11] <matrix> siji i am sorry about that  would like to help
[07:11] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: good luck with satellite.  i've never encountered a satellite ISP that actually provided a useable external IP... especially those ******* over at HughesNet
[07:11] <jep1985> lea123, you can install GRUB to SDA
[07:11] <ndroftheline> jep1985: yes, i have a dynamic too but i use a router so it hasn't changed in weeks. months, even.
[07:11] <siji> As per the doc i have tail the usb , but it's not showing anything
[07:11] <siji> matrix, ok
[07:11] <jep1985> it will install it to your MBR
[07:11] <jackey_> os:ubuntu 9.04 ,asus x50n,ata5:SRST failed errno=-16
[07:12] <ndroftheline> rdw200169: how can one or another IP be more or less useable?
[07:12] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: did you verify it with the command I gave you?
[07:12] <jackey_> os:ubuntu 9.04 ,asus x50n,ata5:SRST failed errno=-16
[07:12] <matrix> siji did you do a lsusb
[07:12] <ndroftheline> greezmunkey: not with that command but i've used whatismyipaddress, and canyouseeme.org
[07:12] <siji> yes
[07:12] <matrix> and does it recognize anything
[07:12] <siji> it's showing there i guess
[07:12] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: trust me... those satellite people are crazy and downright evil.  i will no longer discuss this matter considering the fact that you are using satellite internet.  this is for my sanity's sake.  trust me.
[07:13] <siji> Bus 006 Device 006: ID 0408:3001 Quanta Computer, Inc. Optical Touch Screen
[07:13] <matrix> siji thats good news
[07:13] <greezmunkey> rdw200169: Heh
[07:13] <ndroftheline> rdw200169: lol ok. i can move the server to my dad's house, i guess. thats good advice though, thank you.
[07:13] <matrix> siji then it should be possible to get it to work
[07:13] <lea123> jep1985 Do you mean to say its a mistake to install on the SDA5 where drive was partioned to install Linux and that is the reason why it isn't giving me an option to boot into linux
[07:13] <siji> matrix, any idea how to
[07:14] <siji> Btw , touch screen is working
[07:14] <matrix> sorry i do not know enough about it
[07:14] <siji> Only multitouch need to enable
[07:14] <siji> matrix, ok
[07:14] <jep1985> no
[07:14] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: Do you have a second pc that you can network in place of your internet connection (pointing at the server) that you can test an inbound ssh request?
[07:14] <kindlebit> rdw200169 :now, while using sudo apt-get install qbittorrent deluge rtorrent i get an error "E Broken package " from to find this now ?
[07:14] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: i once spent over 16 hours of time, total, arguing with a satellite provider i was paying over $4500 / mo. about how they were throttling our bandwidth, specifically, so that i could manage our bandwidth usage accordingly.  they preferred me to be confused, so they could throttle me endlessly...
[07:14] <jep1985> i'm saying if you install on SDA (the master boot record) that you will have the option to boot ubuntu or windows
[07:14] <ndroftheline> greezmunkey: i can ssh into it from inside my network
[07:14] <kindlebit> rdw200169 :now, while using sudo apt-get install qbittorrent deluge rtorrent i get an error "E Broken package " from to find this now ?
[07:14] <jep1985> to restore the windows vista bootloader, google EasyBCD
[07:15] <jep1985> why are you installing all 3?
[07:15] <ndroftheline> greezmunkey: is that what you mean?
[07:15] <jep1985> have you tried Transmission?
[07:15] <matrix> jep1985 good advice
[07:15] <jep1985> !transmission
[07:15] <ndroftheline> rdw200169: lol nice
[07:15] <jep1985> !info transmission
[07:15] <rdw200169> kindlebit: i don't know, its possible that there are packages you can't install because the other repositories are unavailable
[07:16] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: The thinking there is to verify the Internet connection on your server. Easy to do, just put a machine there and ssh back to your server. It should work as well.
[07:16] <ZanQdo> Im stting up an ubuntu SE with samba server shaer
[07:16] <ZanQdo> share
[07:16] <ndroftheline> greezmunkey: boy, i'm sorry. i'm misunderstanding what you mean. i have an extra computer. what do you want me to do with it?
[07:17] <teco> where to look for development pages of volume control app in ubuntu?
[07:17] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: postfix is working pretty well except that it doesnt send email to hotmail adresses
[07:17] <ndroftheline> greezmunkey: "put a machine there" - where?
[07:17] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: in the end, thoough, i figured out how to keep tc/ip/iptables/brtables/etc... working such that internet worked reliably over satellite... no thanks to those jerks on the other end though, with their endlessly overfilling bucket of pain and suffering (they scraped off the most needed bits first of course>>>)
[07:17] <matrix> siji i think it should be possible to ad your touch screen
[07:17] <kindlebit> rdw200169 :than how to overcome this ?
[07:17] <ZanQdo> can't get the windows machine to get write access
[07:17] <jep1985> ndroftheline, you can access the internet from the server right?
[07:17]  * ZanQdo wonders why
[07:17] <matrix> but you probally have to search for more information
[07:17] <ndroftheline> rdw200169: loll well if you had the godly grace to write a howto on all that i'd love to read it someday
[07:17] <siji> ok
[07:17] <ndroftheline> jep1985: yes, yes i can
[07:17] <jep1985> ps -e | grep dnsmasq
[07:18] <teco>
[07:18] <jep1985> and also ps -e | grep iptables
[07:18] <rdw200169> kindlebit: its probably that all your repository sources are not enabled, which causes ubuntu to look for dependencies that are not available... you need to go back to Synaptic and enable all the repositories...
[07:18] <rdw200169> !repositories > kindlebit
[07:18] <kindlebit> rdw200169 : do i need to enable all repositories or what ?
[07:18] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: Nevermind, it's probably more work than it's worth.
[07:18] <siji> matrix, thanks alot
[07:18] <teco> sudo apt-get development pages for volume control app please...........
[07:19] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: That's good news!
[07:19] <kindlebit> rdw200169 : ok thanks
[07:19] <matrix> siji no problem at all just wish i could be more help for you
[07:19] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: but, you *can* run a SSH reverse tunnel and run a proxy from a location external to the satellite connection thereby reliably offering a connection
[07:19] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: yup. thanks.
[07:19] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: did it send to hotmail before?
[07:19] <ndroftheline> rdw200169: hey! reverse ssh tunnel! i read an article on that earlier today
[07:19] <jmdesigner81> i'm pretty sure it did. i'm looking into the logs now.
[07:20] <ndroftheline> so i ssh into another system somewhere else and then ssh to THAT somewhere else to connect to my server right
[07:20] <ndroftheline> lol
[07:20] <ndroftheline> what a pita
[07:20] <siji> matrix, am exploring more , will share here if I got the solution
[07:20] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: then, from the external server, you can run a sort of SSH proxy
[07:20] <matrix> siji that is good i am sure many are looking to do the same
[07:20] <siji> sure will do
[07:20] <teco> ada pongada ...
[07:21] <matrix> siji you have a good night good luck
[07:21] <siji> gn too
[07:21] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: It's really not that bad... :)
[07:21] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: Heh, stupid network tricks!
[07:21] <pbrook1> hello, I have a pulseaudio question. I am running 10.04, I can play music and hear sounds fine, but the volume meter for "Internal Audio Analog Stereo" doesn't show any movement indicating that sound is coming out of the speakers (despite the fact that I can hear it). Any suggestions?
[07:21] <matrix> good night everyone
[07:21] <ndroftheline> greezmunkey: well i'm willing to do it
[07:21] <ndroftheline> greezmunkey: i just don't have a server elsewhere ready to handle it
[07:22] <ndroftheline> greezmunkey: i have an ancient thinkpad, i can install THAt at my dad's and use IT for my ssh tunnel
[07:22] <rdw200169> greezmunkey: ndroftheline yeah, no kidding, when i used to provide linux server support, i would have them receive a script over the internets which had the public key they needed for reverse ssh access back to me so i could log into their system and help them
[07:22] <ndroftheline> it doesn't take much oomph to run a tunnel right
[07:22] <ndroftheline> can i use a 200mhz thinkpad from the 80's? lol
[07:22] <greezmunkey> ndroftheline: sure, why not. I set one up at my office once, came home and tied this end in, it worked untill I tore it down. Neat experiment.
[07:23] <jep1985> you should be able to lol
[07:23] <rdw200169> ndroftheline: piece of cake.  and, you can even write simple scripts that will attempt to create the tunnel whenever you want, cron fun
[07:23] <jep1985> i suggest a minimal command line install
[07:23] <pbrook1> does anybody know about pulseaudio?
[07:23] <rdw200169> pbrook1: whats the problem?
[07:23] <ndroftheline> jep oh hell yeah minimal install
[07:23] <pbrook1> I am running 10.04, I can play music and hear sounds fine, but the volume meter for "Internal Audio Analog Stereo" doesn't show any movement indicating that sound is coming out of the speakers (despite the fact that I can hear it). Any suggestions?
[07:23] <greezmunkey> rdw200169: yeah, I was able to X forward over it once I had it up and running...pretty cool stuff.
[07:23] <ndroftheline> wow sick i effin love ubuntu!
[07:23] <ndroftheline> and linux!
[07:23] <ndroftheline> gnu too!
[07:24] <ndroftheline> and all you guys rock
[07:24] <ndroftheline> lol
[07:24] <FloodBot2> ndroftheline: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <ndroftheline> ok i'm goign to install the server on this ancient thinkpad
[07:24] <ndroftheline> laterz
[07:24] <pbrook1> I want to visualize my music but all of the viaualizers monitor the pulseaudio sinks and the pulseaudio sink monitor is saying that there is no sound
[07:24] <greezmunkey> Just when I was reaching for my rubber boots too...
[07:25] <Funker> hola buenas noches
[07:25] <surt> Hi guys, having an issue with slow i/o disk speeds. 3d effects (compiz) are lightning quick and as long as an request doesn't involve disk access it's normal. Decompression and removing and installing software is abysmally slow.
[07:26] <surt> Like pre 486 slow.
[07:26] <rdw200169> pbrook1: you can use the paman pavucontrol padevchooser paprefs apps to get the panel applet for pulse audio that is most closely related to the development of the project
[07:26] <greezmunkey> surt: check your disk with palimset, or some other utility.
[07:26] <pbrook1> surt: could the hard drive be failing?
[07:26] <surt> pbrook1: Just watched a tv show on the computer with mplayer. No slowdown at all.
[07:27] <surt> pbrook1: It seems very selective.
[07:27] <pbrook1> rdw200169: I am looking at the pavucontrol applet, and it is indicating that no sound is coming out of rhythmbox, despite the fact that there is sound coming out
[07:27] <rdw200169> pbrook1: i find that pavucontrol, the piece of the applet that controls volume(s) works the best out of all the different ways of controlling PulseAudio
[07:27] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: it doesn't send email to hotmail address. weird.
[07:28] <greezmunkey> jmdesigner81: are you sending from a known domain, er known in public DNS?
[07:28] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: you have to make sure that your postfix is sending all the correct stuff... hotmail is probably spamming it
[07:28] <pbrook1> rdw200169: I can change the volume slider to adjust the volume I hear, but it still doesn't indicate that any sound is coming out. I already tried restarting and logging out/in again
[07:28] <surt> greezmunkey: What is the synatx you suggest to check the disk?
[07:28] <karthick87> How can i use dyndns with ubuntu and send emails from it
[07:28] <jmdesigner81> greezmunkey: i'm sending from my home server... so not a fixed ip.
[07:28] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: what do you mean by sending the correct stuff?
[07:29] <rdw200169> pbrook1: hmm.. i don't know what to say, are you having issues with the operation of pulseaudio? is it causing sound problems, or is your issue primarily visual?
[07:29] <jep1985> !info ddclient
[07:29] <jmdesigner81> karthick87: do u have a dyndns acount?
[07:29] <karthick87> yes i have
[07:29] <jep1985> !info Inadyn
[07:29] <greezmunkey> surt: go to system/administration/disk utility and browse around in there - check your drives there first.
[07:29] <jmdesigner81> did u install dyndns for ubuntu?
[07:29] <jep1985> those are clients to update your IP with dyndns
[07:30] <rudyl313> is it possible to list all files that are owned by a specific user (across the whole filesystem)?
[07:30] <jep1985> then you need to make sure that (preferably) your router is setup properly with your hostname and such
[07:30] <surt> greezmunkey: Do you know the terminal command? I use xubuntu.
[07:30] <jep1985> the WHOLE hostname.. i.e. yourhost.dyndns.org
[07:30] <pbrook1> rdw200169: I can hear sound fine, but I want to use music visualization software (projectM, Impulse, etc) that hooks into pulseaudio and provides visualizations. None of those work since pulseaudio doesn't seem to think that the streams have any sound (even though they are playing)
[07:30] <NineTeen67Comet> Got some grub questions .. I installed XP, Gentoo then Ubuntu (knowing Ubuntu handles other OS's well when it comes to grub). But still I get "Error: File not found" when grub attempts Gentoo. Help?
[07:30] <rdw200169> jmdesigner81: most e-mail providers are *QUICK* to mark a message as spam... there are many requirements nowadays for what a e-mail must provide in the header to prevent this auto-spamming
[07:30] <greezmunkey> surt: you can use fsck, but you'll have to restart to do that I believe.
[07:31] <jep1985> NineTeen i'll bet it has something to do with Grub2
[07:31] <jep1985> check to see if Grub2 is supported with gentoo yet
[07:31] <surt> greezmunkey: What is the binary name?
[07:31] <jmdesigner81> karthick87: check this out http://bobbyallen.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/dyndns-client-setup-on-ubuntu/
[07:31] <NineTeen67Comet> jep1985: that's what I was worried about .. the menu.lst (grub.conf) might not play nice ..
[07:31] <surt> greezmunkey: Of the application you recommend I check out...
[07:31] <greezmunkey> surt: I'll dig that up, ... fsck - FileSystemChecKer
[07:31] <jep1985> Grub2 = the devil
[07:31] <jep1985> i'd rather use lilo
[07:31] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: gotcha.
[07:32] <jmdesigner81> rdw200169: the logs should say something. i hope.
[07:32] <jep1985> but i always install grub-legacy on my ubuntu machines.. ubuntu is the ONLY mainstream distro using Grub2 ffs..
[07:32] <NineTeen67Comet> jep1985: yeah so far not a fan of grub2 .. more difficult to edit ..
[07:32] <jep1985> its insane, you almost need a gui =P
[07:32] <NineTeen67Comet> lol true
[07:32] <rdw200169> pbrook1: well, you're probably encountering an issue with pulseaudio, which leaves you with 2-3 choices: 1) install pulseaudio from a PPA / pulseaudio.org development source 2) upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 and see if that works 3) upgrade to 10.10 and run development version of pulseaudio
[07:32] <alkisg> NineTeen67Comet: you can install to gentoo boot loader in the gentoo partition and chainload it from the ubuntu grub2 that you have in the MBR
[07:32] <jep1985> sudo apt-get autoremove grub-pc; sudo apt-get install grub-legacy
[07:32] <Curator> hey
[07:32] <Curator> i'm stuck at busybox
[07:32] <Curator> in ubuntu
[07:32] <surt> greezmunkey: I know what fsck is, but I just need the first app you recommended. I think If I knew how to fully operate fsck I probably wouldn't be here ;-)
[07:32] <Curator> how do i fix tihs?
[07:33] <jep1985> i didn't even consider chainloading
[07:33] <rdw200169> pbrook1: its highly likely that there is a bug and that it had been (hopefull) resolved in a later version...
[07:33] <NineTeen67Comet> alkisg: I "understand" what you are mentioning; but have no clue how to do it .. (I'm assuming XP is chainloaded as well)
[07:33] <DuckMaestro> does 10.10 server distro come with same default GUI as desktop distro?
[07:33] <pbrook1> rdw: Thanks, I'll try that
[07:33] <NineTeen67Comet> DuckMaestro: Server edition is CLI only ..
[07:33] <alkisg> NineTeen67Comet: but it's probably a path error in your grub.cfg... did you run "sudo update-grub"? what's the entry for gentoo, and how would gentoo write it instead?
[07:33] <jep1985> surt, FYI, any time you have a question about a linux command, google "man command", you'll generally find the man pages ;)
[07:33] <greezmunkey> surt: check out that last post here: http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix/588130-ubuntu-9-10-failing-hard-disk.html
[07:34] <pbrook1> rdw: It used to work months ago, but perhaps some update broke it
[07:34] <rdw200169> pbrook1: back on 9.04, i was running a much older version of PA than the one it came with for years so i didn't have to upgrade to 9.10, etc.. ;)
[07:34] <DuckMaestro> NineTeen67Comet: ty
[07:34] <rdw200169> pbrook1: by older, i mean newer/development
[07:34] <NineTeen67Comet> alkisg: it is grub-install I beleive, but it doesn't write anything .. you have to manually write all the config files (part of the reason i've put gentoo on my back burner now that I need to use my computer instead of play with it ..
[07:34] <matrix> surt try this touch /forcefsck. shutdown -r now
[07:34] <jep1985> i learn a lot every day by googleing man pages hehe
[07:34] <jep1985> pfft Gentoo is easy =P
[07:35] <monday_> does anyone know how to reload the ndiswrapper? sometimes my wireless just quits, I've got allot of invalid commands on the ndiswrapper from dmesg
[07:35] <rdw200169> jep1985: i wish there was better documentation for tc... but good luck finding anything that makes sense on that...
[07:35] <jep1985> just takes forever to do ANYTHING because you compile every little tiny bit of the OS
[07:35]  * NineTeen67Comet I <3 gentoo .. Just haven't the time anymore ..
[07:35] <jep1985> the package management is based off of ports on BSD
[07:35] <rdw200169> jep1985: i *get* it now, but i think i'm the only one (well, me and that russian mad-man that wrote it)
[07:35] <jep1985> i don't think i've had to use tc thankfully
[07:35] <matrix> surt check this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[07:35] <NineTeen67Comet> jep1985: have you ever played with LFS? That's my next journy when time allowes ..
[07:35] <jep1985> i have
[07:35] <alkisg> NineTeen67Comet: e.g. maybe gentoo doesn't like grub using UUIDs? You can easily change that in the grub configuration
[07:35] <jep1985> but got bored
[07:36] <jep1985> hehe ;)
[07:36] <rdw200169> jep1985: to me, who likes routers, i find that tc is the most powerful application available for linux... but thats just em
[07:36] <NineTeen67Comet> alkisg: true .. I did change the fstab in the Gentoo install to /dev instead of using any UID .. maybe I need to make that change in my Ubuntu install too ..
[07:36] <surt> Alright. Will try it now. Thanks people.
[07:36] <jep1985> what's tc?
[07:37] <jep1985> NineTeen no
[07:37] <greezmunkey> matrix: I knew there was a way to do that - force fsck on restart, but couldn't locate the command, thanks!
[07:37] <jep1985> all UUID does is let you mount it wherever it happens to be places
[07:37] <rdw200169> jep1985: traffic control, its part of the iproute2 package, hardcore networking/routing/traffic_control from the command line
[07:37] <jep1985> if you put that HD in another computer, the UUID stays the same however your /dev/sd* may be different
[07:37] <matrix> Greezmunkey no problem
[07:37] <jep1985> thats the nutshell
[07:37] <alkisg> jep1985: no: linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae root=UUID=8f63ffbf-d647-4013-ba70-7e8da586aeac ro   quiet splash
[07:38] <greezmunkey> matrix: Doesn't that file have to be in a specific location - I remember reading about it a few months ago...
[07:38] <alkisg> jep1985: if the gentoo kernel can't understand the UUID parameter, it won't find the initrd
[07:38] <jep1985> so you'd change that root=UUID to root=/dev/sdX
[07:38] <NineTeen67Comet> alkisg: Thinkin' only the Gentoo fstab needs an edit. If I mess with the one here in Ubuntu it'll think that /dev/sda5 is it's root and not Gentoo's .. lol ..
[07:38] <NineTeen67Comet> Thanks for the help all .. probably should ask this stuff in #gentoo ..
[07:38] <jep1985> the disk will remain the same in fdisk
[07:38] <matrix> no just do it anywhere
[07:38] <alkisg> jep1985, NineTeen67Comet, so you'd need to edit /etc/default/grub and tell it to not use uuids, if that's the problem
[07:38] <Nikkk> @rdw200169 - Hey, but, what wud be the password as default coz, phpMyAdmin installation is prompting me to enter the root password for mySql..but, i donno :(
[07:39] <greezmunkey> matrix: alright, that command will put it on the root...I get it...
[07:39] <NineTeen67Comet> jep1985: might be .. I can mess with it .. I know the old way better anyhow .. :)
[07:39] <jep1985> Nikk: when you installed mysql, it asked you to put ina  password
[07:39] <jep1985> that's your root password, generally
[07:39] <alkisg> NineTeen67Comet: on kernel upgrades, update-grub is called, so it would still write root=uuid in your gentoo line, unless you modify your grub configuration
[07:39] <Curator> guys
[07:39] <jep1985> if you don't remember, you could try dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server, that *used* to work
[07:39] <Curator> how do i get out of busybox??
[07:40] <matrix> greezmunkey what are you working on
[07:40] <Nikkk> @Jep1985 - That's the question, it hasn't prompted for root password during the installation of mySQL
[07:40] <greezmunkey> jep1985: (and it's a ***** to rescue it if you forget it, I found that out)
[07:40] <jep1985> "quit" or "exit" Curator
[07:40] <NineTeen67Comet> alkisg: thanks .. I'll watch for that too .. Off to tinker .. thanks again all ..
[07:40] <Curator> rather
[07:40] <Curator> how do i get into normal boot
[07:40] <rdw200169> jep1985: no no, she mentioned earlier that it didn't ask during the install
[07:40] <Curator> i was dumb and went into grub
[07:40] <Cyrano_De> Curator: init 5
[07:40] <Curator> and somehow messed it up
[07:40] <karthick87> Do anyone know..?How to add information to Factoids database..?
[07:40] <jep1985> ah
[07:40] <jep1985> shutting up now ;)
[07:41] <monday_> anyone know howto reload a module?
[07:41] <Cyrano_De> Curator: escape doesn't get you out?
[07:41] <greezmunkey> matrix: not me, surt is having "unexplained" slowdowns on his drive - first step to troubleshoot is to verify the disk - that was for him/her.
[07:41] <Nikkk> @jep1985 - can you please let me know how can i check if mySQL is installed or not ?
[07:41] <matrix> greezmunkey yes ok
[07:41] <rdw200169> Nikkk: actually the easiest way to rectify this problem is: purge mysql-server then reinstall it... it should re-do the configuation process
[07:42] <Cyrano_De> Curator: Most changes you make at the grub boot menu are not permanent.
[07:42] <rdw200169> Nikkk: you just want a brand new mysql server, so: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server && sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:42] <Nikkk> @rdw200169 - I tried that as well. However, it's not prompting for password whatsoever..
[07:42] <mankeletor> hi all, what package need i have to install to get firefox run java web applications?
[07:42] <jep1985> monday_: modprobe -r module; modprobe module
[07:42] <matrix> greezmunkey surt means sour in my language hope that things get less sour for him here
[07:42] <jep1985> did you try purging it?
[07:42] <jep1985> i.e. apt-get purge mysql-server
[07:43] <Curator> ok
[07:43] <greezmunkey> matrix: French?
[07:43] <Curator> i get a kernel panic
[07:43] <jep1985> using apt-get purge removes package and all configuration files
[07:43] <Curator> if i try to boot
[07:43] <monday_> jep1985: is that to remove it?
[07:43] <jep1985> Curator, probably be quicker to start from scratch
[07:43] <matrix> greezmunkey no danish
[07:43] <rdw200169> Nikkk: yeah, if you apt-get remove it will just remove everything but the configuration... which leaves behind the problem you have right now
[07:43] <jep1985> and use snapshots!!! thats why they're there, in case you muck up!!
[07:43] <Curator> well
[07:43] <monday_> jep1985: I didn't try to purge it I just want to re-load it.  I'll give it another shot ! oh! now i get it...I did just remove :P
[07:44] <incandenza> Curator: Did you install the guest additions?
[07:45] <Curator> where do i do that?
[07:45] <rdw200169> Nikkk: come back and let us know how it went
[07:45] <jep1985> yeah Nikkk removing it just removes the packages and installed files, but not the configuration files
[07:45] <incandenza> Look in the menu. It mounts a cd that you install them from
[07:45] <greezmunkey> matrix: I sent Network Solutions a request to reboot the Internet...still waiting.
[07:46] <Curator> ummmmm
[07:46] <Curator> what menu?
[07:46] <DuckMaestro> can i still install default gui if i use the alternate package?
[07:46] <incandenza> The virtualbox menu. Under 'Machine', I think
[07:46] <monday_> jep1985: restarted the network. ! I love it!
[07:47] <jep1985> somewhere near the bottom it should say "Insert guest additions iso"
[07:47] <Curator> there's "new" "settings" etc.
[07:47] <monday_> jep1985: thank you
[07:47] <Nikkk> @rdw200169 - Sure ! Right now, I'm updating the files...Once, it's done..I'll be purge..
[07:47] <jep1985> you're welcome monday_
[07:47] <jep1985> but
[07:47] <jep1985> in the future
[07:47] <mankeletor> how do i do to install java + firefox plugin?
[07:47] <Nikkk> @jep1985 - Thanks a lot for the info :D will get back to you soon...
[07:47] <jep1985> to restart your network, /etc/init.d/networking restart or /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[07:48] <jep1985> "oracle" java is no longer supported in ubuntu :(
[07:48] <monday_> jep1985: I tried that but wireless wouldn't work.
[07:48] <jep1985> odd
[07:48] <monday_> I have to use ndis for the drivers.
[07:48] <jep1985> i'm very lucky that my wireless has no problems with ubuntu
[07:48] <incandenza> Curator: Well, you can just mount the guest additions cd image yourself (from the settings, the image is included with virtualbox)
[07:48] <monday_> jep1985: something is wrong with the ndiswrapper.
[07:48] <Curator> wait i found it
[07:48] <monday_> jep1985: I just loaded updates and its been acting up.
[07:48] <jep1985> ahh
[07:48] <greezmunkey> monday_: Are you using Network Manager?
[07:49] <monday_> greezmunkey: yeah
[07:49] <jep1985> ugh i wish that someone would spike virt-manager to be a debian project
[07:49] <greezmunkey> monday_: Have you tried disabling your wireless adapter, then re-enabling it?
[07:49] <panthr-pnthrnet> is there a 3d benchmark application for ubuntu ?
[07:49] <betts> hello
[07:50] <panthr-pnthrnet> to test capabilities of graphics card
[07:50] <monday_> greezmunkey: tried that no good
[07:50] <monday_> greezmunkey: dmesg showed a lot of errors with the ndiswrapper.
[07:50] <monday_> greezmunkey: invalid command not recognized
[07:51] <greezmunkey> monday_: yikes, ndiswrapper bytes. You may need to check the hardware support page, and pick up a differant adapter.
[07:51] <monday_> greezmunkey: I know those are hard to find.
[07:51] <jep1985> !info 3dmark
[07:51] <greezmunkey> monday_: not so much...
[07:51] <jep1985> feh
[07:52] <CensoredBiscuit> how do i get a shell script to automatically be opened with terminal?
[07:52] <monday_> greezmunkey: I can't find any at FRYS last time I was there.
[07:52] <monday_> greezmunkey: up until now ndis has been ok but I can't do the cool stuff with the card that I want to.
[07:53] <greezmunkey> monday_: order on line, have it shiopped to you. Fry's usually sells "B" rated gear anyway, you'll get more for your money shopping around.
[07:53] <jep1985> panther-pnthrnet: Check out this article; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274157
[07:53] <DuckMaestro> can i still install a GUI from the Alternate distro?
[07:53] <monday_> greezmunkey: I'm finding that out. I hate it that allot of their stuff doesn't support my fav OS.
[07:53] <rdw200169> monday_: yeah, or microcenter, thats what we get in the North East
[07:54] <jep1985> DuckMaestro: the ubuntu alternate install CD installs the same thing you get from the live-cd it's just in a text mode installer
[07:55] <jep1985> i use newegg.... http://www.newegg.com
[07:55] <DuckMaestro> jep1985: so after it finishes the install it should attempt to load the gui on its own?
[07:55] <betts> is FloodBot2 a bot
[07:55] <jep1985> DuckMaestro : yes
[07:55] <jep1985> betts: yes
[07:55] <DuckMaestro> jep1985: ty
[07:56] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: the alternates CD is used primarily when either: you know exactly what you're doing and don't wnat to deal with the live cd wasting your time with pretty windows or 2) there is some problem with the live cd loading correctly and you have to install from the alternates cd... regardless, its the same thing that ends up on the drive
[07:56] <DuckMaestro> rdw200169: ty. yea regular package isnt working on latest gen mac mini.  i got the server package installed but didnt realize it lacks a gui. going to try again now with the alternate package
[07:56] <greezmunkey> monday_: start here: http://www.linux-drivers.org/index.html, or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[07:57] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: live cd = Desktop CD = default download option on ubuntu.com = pretty desktop with Install icon
[07:57] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: you could take a shot and just install ubuntu-desktop from the ubuntu-server installation
[07:57] <tx23> Will running "sudo grub-update" from a live CD update configurations on an unrelated mounted drive?
[07:57] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: they aren't *that* different... if i'm not mistaken, it should just be a different kernel, but that's easy enough to rectify
[07:58] <monday_> greezmunkey: thanx a lot
[07:58] <jep1985> tx23.. probably safer to do it the long way
[07:58] <tx23> jep1985: what's that?
[07:58] <jep1985> type sudo grub to get to grub command prompt
[07:58] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: you shouldn't have to re-install, just take a shot with tasksel and pick "Ubuntu desktop" along with whatever else you would want
[07:58] <greezmunkey> monday_: I beat my head to a pulp, and finally took the advice I gave you. I'm much happier now...
[07:58] <tx23> jep1985: let me explain the problem
[07:59] <Jordan_U> tx23: To run update-grub you need to chroot into the system whose grub.cfg you're trying to update first.
[07:59] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: that should install all the graphical stuff your heart desires and probably some stuff you don't want too
[07:59] <jep1985> then root (hdx,x), then setup (hd0)
[07:59] <jep1985> and then update-grub it
[07:59] <jep1985> oh yeah Grub2 .. bleh
[07:59] <aaron11> Hello people! I want to know where my mic is located in ubuntu. I want to know this because in GTK-RecordMyDesktop just creates plain noise when I hit record. How do I know where the mic is? Thank You!
[07:59] <Jordan_U> jep1985: That wouldn't work with grub legacy either.
[07:59] <DuckMaestro> rdw200169: should tasksel work straight from the command line after im logged in? (still relatively new to linux)
[07:59] <jep1985> it should
[08:00] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: yuppo
[08:00] <jep1985> no matter what version you use
[08:00] <jep1985> xubuntu, alternate, server, liveCD
[08:00] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: just: sudo tasksel
[08:00] <Nikkk> @jep1985@rdw200169 - It hasn't prompted for root password again. :( can you gimme the link where i can upload the output ?
[08:00] <DuckMaestro> rdw200169: thx. will give that a go...   probably better that i try that first because of the kernel too. one theory i read is that latest gen mini needs the server kernel of 10.10 at the moment.
[08:00] <jep1985> it's http://www.pastebin.com
[08:01] <tx23_> jep1985: sorry, disconnected
[08:01] <tx23_> jep1985: here's the deal
[08:02] <StuartPB> I'm trying to set up Larch andthe install script is failing with "/usr/bin/env: python2: No such file or directory". How can I get around this short of setting up a symlink?
[08:02] <rdw200169> Nikkk: well, you could take a shot with "mysql -u root -p" and try your main User's password... dirty but it might just work
[08:02] <aaron11> Hello people! I want to know where my mic is located in ubuntu. I want to know this because in GTK-RecordMyDesktop just creates plain noise when I hit record. How do I know where the mic is? Thank You!
[08:02] <tx23_> jep1985: I made a fresh Ubuntu install on this older computer that uses D-SUB output
[08:02] <tx23_> jep1985: consequently, I can only get a video feed when I use the "nomodeset" parameter at boot
[08:02] <StuartPB> aaron11: where it physically is?
[08:02] <Nikkk> @rdw200169 @jep1985 - http://pastebin.com/g6DqXSb3
[08:02] <tx23_> jep1985: while I can do this on the livecd, I see no way to do it on the fresh installation
[08:02] <aaron11> StuartPB, no. Like /dev/dsp
[08:02] <rdw200169> DuckMaestro: doesn't matter, after reboot grub should offer both the server and desktop kernel for you
[08:03] <tx23_> jep1985: fresh install boots straight into a black hole
[08:03] <mikha_> thank u guys u were very helpfull :)
[08:03] <tx23_> jep1985: still here, that quit msg was my old client dcing
[08:04] <Jordan_U> tx23_: Hold shift to get to the grub menu at boot.
[08:04] <tx23_> Jordan_U: testing now
[08:04] <greezmunkey> tx23_: after it boots try Ctrl+Alt+F1, do you get a login prompt?
[08:04] <jep1985> i don't know what to tell you to change in grub2.. in grub-legacy you could just edit the menu.lst entry
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[08:04] <jep1985> ugh i twitch every time it asks me if i want to install grub2 or legacy
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> In grub2 - /etc/default/grub or one of the  /etc/grub.d/files
[08:04] <jep1985> need to learn to do my own preseed files
[08:05] <Nikkk> @rdw200169 - Take a look at the output and let me know if i must proceed with your last suggestion..http://pastebin.com/g6DqXSb3
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> Grub2 isent that hard to learn.
[08:05] <texashale1> Can someone tell me the directory where the "c header" files are located on v. 10.10?
[08:05] <karthick87> !ubuntu
[08:05] <seidos> should there be any processes started by user root in ubuntu?
[08:05] <map7_> I'm having trouble accessing grub on boot, I hold down SHIFT but it doesn't work
[08:05] <rdw200169> Nikkk: well, the purge and install seem to have gone well, no issues there
[08:05] <StuartPB> texashale1: the kernel headers?
[08:05] <petan> seidos: what u mean
[08:05] <rdw200169> Nikkk: that obviously didn't help though, so its time dig a little more and get dirty with mysql
[08:06] <StuartPB> seidos; init?
[08:06] <texashale1> I think so, but it is asking for the directory for the c header files. don't really know what that means... :-)
[08:06] <rdw200169> Nikkk: so you can try $ mysql -u root -p ;;;;; this will attempt to login as root@localhost and ask for a password
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> map7_:  so does it boot to ubuntu by default? or what exactly?
[08:06] <StuartPB> texashale1: what are you trying to do
[08:07] <seidos> petan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/531073/
[08:07] <Nikkk> @rdw200169 - Yep, i did..n here is the output :'( http://pastebin.com/zDiWwqXp
[08:07] <rdw200169> Nikkk: try your 'favorite' password and some random spacebar stuff to see if you can get in
[08:07] <map7_> Dr_Willis: I just tried to update to Ubuntu 10.10 and now it boots up to a blank screen and I cannot access any terminal with ctrl+alt+F1
[08:07] <rdw200169> Nikkk: see if you can get in w/out password: mysql -u root
[08:07] <StuartPB> I'm trying to set up Larch and the install script is failing with "/usr/bin/env: python2: No such file or directory". How can I get around this short of setting up a symlink?
[08:07] <map7_> so I'm trying to get to the grub menu to see what I can do there
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> map7_:  so the update failed? or did it say it succeded?
[08:07] <aaron11> Hello people! I want to know where my mic is located in ubuntu. I want to know this because in GTK-RecordMyDesktop just creates plain noise when I hit record. How do I know where the mic is? Thank You!
[08:07] <petan> seidos: that is ok, it is part of pam login, domain subsystem
[08:07] <texashale1> I am using vmware player (first time) and installed ubuntu in it and now trying to install the vmware tools.
[08:08] <petan> seidos: allow you to login to win domain
[08:08] <jep1985> try apt-get purging again
[08:08] <jep1985> reboot
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> map7_:  so what do you see on the screen? You see the plymouth screen? or just a blkinking cursor? or what exactly?
[08:08] <jep1985> reinstall mysql-server after reboot
[08:08] <seidos> petan, hmmm.
[08:08] <map7_> It said it updated sucessfully but there was one bad package, but that was mythexport so I just removed that as I don't really need it
[08:08] <jep1985> maybe something loaded in memory that isn't completely purging the configs
[08:08] <Nikkk> rdw200169: It says "access denied for your 'root@'localshot'(using password:No)"
[08:08] <map7_> Dr_Willis: I boot and see Ubuntu and the progress dots, then it's just a blank screen, no cursor, nothing
[08:09] <Nikkk> @jep1985 - All right jep ! I'll do that..
[08:09] <greezmunkey> texashale1: vmware player should offer to do that on its own...
[08:09] <map7_> I've tried plugging in an external screen to my notebook and the same thing happens
[08:09] <seidos> petan, what about:  /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
[08:09] <rdw200169> Nikkk: yeah, try what jep1985 said ;)
[08:10] <StuartPB> texashale1: and even then I would expect something like that to have a debian package
[08:10] <jep1985> can't hurt =/
[08:10] <jep1985> lol
[08:10] <petan> seidos: that is tty1
[08:10] <map7_> I've updated this machine in the past without problems from 810 to 904 to 910
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> map7_:  that sounds like a video type issue. The shift or esc key should get you to a grub menu. I always disable that 'hide grub by default feature'. If you have a live cd/usb - you could boot that. chroot in, and perhaps change the grub menu settings to disable the hiddenmenu feature.
[08:10] <petan> seidos: terminal you can access byt pressing alt ctrl f1
[08:10] <texashale1> greezemunkey, The process it is putting me thru is to go thru all of this as sudo in a terminal.
[08:10] <tx23_> Jordan_U: thank you so much, that worked for me
[08:10] <map7_> Dr_Willis: I think I'll have to do the latter
[08:11] <petan> seidos: you can go back to x system by pressing alt+ f7 or another f
[08:11] <seidos> petan, i see.  didn't know that was the process.
[08:11] <shylockshao> hello
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> map7_:  so you have upgraded this machine throuigh 3 different releases then.  Thats impressive it worked :)
[08:11] <surt> Hi guys no issues updating for installing anymore. But extraction still brings the system to a crawl which I can't escape unless I reboot. Any ideas on why extraction would drop i/o speeds to almost a halt anyone?
[08:11] <StuartPB> I'm trying to set up Larch and the install script is failing with "/usr/bin/env: python2: No such file or directory". How can I get around this short of setting up a symlink?
[08:11] <maco> Dr_Willis: my /home has been through at least 5 upgrades...
[08:11] <map7_> Dr_Willis: well each upgrade was 6months apart
[08:12] <jep1985> StuartPB do you have python installed?
[08:12] <jep1985> sudo apt-get install python2.6
[08:12] <StuartPB> jep1985: yep, and python2.6
[08:12] <maco> python is part of the default install
[08:12] <shylockshao> oh oh it is serious
[08:12] <maco> software center wouldnt work without it, i dont think
[08:12] <StuartPB> there's no python2 is the thing
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> maco:  /home/ dosent matter much :) its the other bits that are the problems.
[08:13] <StuartPB> it's at python2.6
[08:13] <StuartPB> but the larch script is looking for python2
[08:13] <maco> Dr_Willis: i also tend to backup and overwrite /etc in the event of a reinstall...
[08:13] <jep1985> <<<does not use gnome
[08:13] <jep1985> nor kde
[08:13] <sresu> maco: Why /etc ?
[08:13] <jep1985> i use fluxbox for a gui
[08:13] <maco> Dr_Willis: but i had the impression it was old configs that tended to cause issues for people, not /var or /usr
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> map7_:  i did have an older pc. that the USB keyboasrd would not work right on th GRUB menus. but  a PS2 keyboard would.. but you said this is a laptop.. so that shouldent be the issue..  it is the SHIFT key for grub2 to hold down as it boots to get to the menu. perhaps you are just not hitting it at the right time.
[08:14] <Jordan_U> tx23_: You're welcome.
[08:14] <maco> sresu: so i dont have to reconfigure my VPNs and resolvconf and various other sysadminy things ive configured
[08:14] <DuckMaestro> ive run tasksel from the server distro but dont see Ubuntu Desktop... my first choice is "Manual package selection", then i see "Obsolete and [...]" and "Virtual Packages".  didnt see an "Ubuntu Desktop" in either.
[08:14] <jep1985> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> maco:  well in the past (years ago) i recall many an issue with old /home/ configs for gnome and kde causing issues.. but that seems to not be a proble these days.
[08:14] <StuartPB> DuckMaestro: yeah each variant of ubuntu is just another metapackage in the same repo
[08:15] <map7_> Dr_Willis: perhaps I'm not as it boots really fast, I'm just booting up a good old live cd and chroot in like you suggested
[08:15] <jep1985> wb Nikk
[08:15] <Nikkk> jep1985 - Thank you :D I'm going to send you the output...
[08:16] <jep1985> crossing my fingers
[08:16] <StuartPB> I'm trying to set up Larch and the install script is failing with "/usr/bin/env: python2: No such file or directory". How can I get around this short of setting up a symlink? python2.6 is installed
[08:16] <surt> Hello, I'm having issues with disk I/O. The problem begin when I try to extract an array of files, and brings the system to an absolute crawl which I can't escape unless I reboot. Any ideas on why extraction would drop i/o speeds to almost a halt anyone? I've run fsck and smartctl for errors - none.
[08:16] <seidos> petan, thanks for your help
[08:16] <Nikkk> @jep1985 - http://pastebin.com/xc4cAFEu
[08:16] <StuartPB> surt, what's your hardware, filesystem
[08:17] <rdw200169> surt: you could try hdparm,
[08:17] <jep1985> so is it stopping at setting up mysql-server (5.1.41-3ubuntu12.7) ... ?
[08:17] <Nikkk> Ya..
[08:17] <maco> StuartPB: it should be python, not python2
[08:17] <surt> StuartPB: intel i7 920, ext4 for the OS
[08:17] <jep1985> just freezing up, or does it return to the command line?
[08:17] <StuartPB> surt: your storage medium
[08:18] <surt> StuartPB: What?
[08:18] <StuartPB> surt: what's your HDD
[08:18] <Nikkk> jep1985 - That's precisely what i have been thinking....sadly returning to command line...:(
[08:18] <rdw200169> Nikkk: sudo sudo sudo!
[08:18] <karthick87> !Ubuntu
[08:18] <jep1985> hmm..
[08:18] <karthick87> !ubuntu
[08:19] <maco> StuartPB: since its using env, i guess you could do  env python2=python   ?
[08:19] <Nikkk> rdw200169 - Didn't get you ? sudo ?
[08:19] <surt> rdw200169: hdparm before extraction = 116.41 MB/sec, afterwards = 1.5
[08:19] <rdw200169> Nikkk: haha, sorry, that was rude, i noticed it on line 3 ;)
[08:19] <jep1985> :P
[08:19] <karthick87> !ubuntu
[08:19] <jep1985> I'm not sure how to help you here
[08:19] <Nikkk> :P
[08:19] <maco> karthick87: stop that
[08:19] <jep1985> i'm not sure which log to check to see what's happening with apt
[08:19] <rdw200169> surt: it could also be a BIOS ahci thing
[08:19] <StuartPB> maco: I tried env python2=python2.6 ./larch and it didn't work
[08:19] <StuartPB> exact same error
[08:19] <maco> StuartPB: id set it =python, since "/usr/bin/env python" is how the script *should* start
[08:20] <surt> rdw200169: I tried disable acpi, but there doesn't seem to be an ahci control in the bios.
[08:20] <Nikkk> man this fella(issue) is irritating me so much..grr
[08:20] <maco> StuartPB: possibly you have to set the whole path instead though?  in which case   env python2=/usr/bin/python2.6
[08:20] <rdw200169> surt: are you sure your memory controller / northbridge chip is fully supported ?
[08:21] <StuartPB> maco: yeah both env python2=python and /usr/bin/python don't work
[08:21] <StuartPB> (and of course /usr/bin/python2.6
[08:21] <surt> rdw200169: Yes. This is a new problem. I could extract files all day before about 2 days ago.
[08:21] <penny> ??
[08:22] <rdw200169> surt: is there a fan on your motherboard over the southbridge chip?
[08:22] <surt> rdw200169: Just having trouble picking out the issue. iotop doesn't show anything crazy, nor does top or system monitor
[08:22] <petan> penny: what
[08:22] <surt> rdw200169: Why?
[08:22] <StuartPB> surt: is this just a normal platter or is it SSD or what
[08:23] <rdw200169> surt: lots of SATA/IDE issues can arise from a overheating southbridge chip.  For example, Asus/Gigabyte are fans of huge southbridge heatsinks.  this does *not* preclude the need for case cooling though.
[08:23] <surt> StuartPB: This is a basic 500gb sata 7200rpm HDD
[08:23] <greezmunkey> rdw200169: if it was a heat related issue, then it should work great right after a cold start, then get worse over a short period of time, right?
[08:23] <rdw200169> greezmunkey: sure.
[08:23] <map7_> Dr_Willis: grub was set to timeout 0, I think that was the problem
[08:24] <surt> But it isn't heat related, because graphics intensive tasks run like fluid.
[08:24] <surt> Other cpu-intensive demands are rapid as usual.
[08:24] <maco> StuartPB: reading about env online, it seems that in the case of commands, its not treating them as variables you can set at will. it's just doing a lookup in the $PATH, so i think you're gonna have to go with teh symlink
[08:24] <surt> Installing from repos are lightning quick.
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> map7_:  for some odd reason it got deciuded that if you are not dual booting . that you dont need themenu :) or some weirdness.
[08:24] <maco> StuartPB: what is larch anyway, and why is it using nonstandard python naming?
[08:24] <surt> It's very specific to extraction, though I don't know what else to test.
[08:24] <jep1985> holy hell.. lol.. the ubuntu webservers are running 5.10
[08:25] <greezmunkey> surt: what do you mean by extraction?
[08:25] <surt> It's only after I try to extract a large array of files that it slows down, and hdparm benchmarked it for me.
[08:25] <jep1985> (off topic)
[08:25] <StuartPB> maco: because it's designed to be installed from a running Arch Linux system, and apparently they have a python2 link
[08:25] <surt> greezmunkey: Extraction of an array of rar files for example.
[08:25] <maco> StuartPB: can you just sed s/python2/python/ on it?
[08:26] <rdw200169> surt: well, i mean, isn't some sort of slowdown *expected*? thats a lot of data getting shuffled through the ram and back to the hard drive just to be processed 2x by the cpu.  thats one write for every read in the ram...
[08:26] <greezmunkey> surt: sonds like a disk IO buffer issue to me.
[08:26] <StuartPB> maco: can I do that non-destructively?
[08:26] <greezmunkey> sounds...
[08:26] <rdw200169> greezmunkey: surt i'm thinking buffer too
[08:26] <surt> greezmunkey: Yes, the extraction begins very quickly then practically stops. That sounds right to me...
[08:26] <maco> StuartPB: how do you mean? sed -i.bak would make a backup of the original unedited one with a .bak ending...
[08:27] <greezmunkey> surt: do you have another drive handy?
[08:27] <StuartPB> maco: I meant like a pipe or something so it doesn't even hit the filesystem
[08:27] <surt> greezmunkey:  I have four...
[08:27] <rdw200169> surt: so are we talking about 7200/500GB sata drive with 4M of cache? 32M of cache? all important...
[08:27] <greezmunkey> surt In the system now?
[08:27] <maco> StuartPB: yes, if you dont use -e on sed, it just goes to stdout
[08:27] <maco> StuartPB: in which case you can |
[08:27] <surt> rdw200169: Yes I expect a slight slowdown but this is a new issue and a heavy slow down
[08:28] <greezmunkey> surt: are you using the motherboard RAID system?
[08:28] <surt> greezmunkey: The disk is about a year old, roughly.
[08:28] <rdw200169> surt: furthermore, are you showing any S.M.A.R.T. errors of any kind?
[08:28] <surt> greezmunkey: No.
[08:28] <surt> rdw200169: Not that I noticed but I don't think I'm using the right syntax, can you recommend?
[08:29] <rdw200169> greezmunkey: hahaha motherboard raid, you had me goin there... NOBODY uses that!
[08:29] <StuartPB> what, so just going sed s/python2/python ./larch | will execute it?
[08:29] <greezmunkey> rdw200169: I was just askin'
[08:29] <rdw200169> surt: smartmontools
[08:29] <map7_> Dr_Willis: I fixed it :), when I chroot and fixed my grub, then booted to recovery mode I connected a network cable and ran fix broken packages and guess what, about 20 xserver packages were missing from the upgrade
[08:30] <map7_> All fixed now
[08:30] <map7_> thanks for the chroot hint
[08:30] <surt> rdw200169: Is that the binary name?
[08:30] <surt> Or the package name?
[08:30] <map7_> now i'm going to eat dinner
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> map7_:  chroot is good and good for you :)
[08:30] <jep1985> i just found out about chroot today.. using it as a development environment ;)
[08:30] <surt> n/m, package
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> 'chroot' the wonder tool.
[08:30] <Benkinooby> hi, i am doing ubuntu minimal install. during partitioning i set my /home and swap to be encrypted. later on, when i came to user configuration, i was asked again, if i want to encrypt my /home directory. what's the point in this?
[08:30] <sprung> Hi. I have a sister who is 10 years old (adopted, i am 30) and she wants to learn how to play chess.  Chess vs. computer on GNOME is too hard for an adult who knows how to play, even on the easy level. are there 'easier' chess games for linux?
 maco: what, so just going sed s/python2/python ./larch | will execute it?
[08:31] <rdw200169> surt: package name
[08:31] <surt> rdw200169: Do you mean the smartctl binary? I have used that.
[08:31] <rdw200169> surt: after install, use /sbin/smartctl
[08:31] <rdw200169> surt: ah, nevermind
[08:31] <sprung> i think i have figured out how gnome chess works, on the easy level it only thinks 3 moves ahead
[08:31] <sprung> how about just 1 move ahead
[08:31] <maco> StuartPB: i think youd need to pipe it to something... like the python command maybe
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> sprung:  thers dozens of chess games and engines out ther, most of the games are front ends to the chess engines. You may want to check for chess tutorial programs.
[08:31] <sprung> that would be better for a child
[08:32] <StuartPB> maco: anyway what would be the command to just change every shebang in the directory pointed at python2 to python
[08:32] <sprung> Dr_Willis, what should i be googling for
[08:32] <surt> rdw200169: I think smartctl is telling me I have errors.
[08:32] <jep1985> maybe get the old fashioned kind of chess set and teach her to play on it.. then move to gnome ;)
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> chess tutorial   perhaps..  its been years since i last looked intoit
[08:32] <Nikkk> @jep1985,rdw200169 : any idea how to fix it ? :( I'm not able to install phpMyAdmin..
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> sprung:  check the package manager for 'chess' also
[08:33] <jep1985> alright...
[08:33] <sprung> Dr_Willis, 'chess' is the one i am complaining about
[08:33] <jep1985> if you run tasksel in a terminal, (sudo tasksel) is LAMP server selected?
[08:33] <sprung> Dr_Willis, i can't beat it on easy and i should be able to get somewhere. this thing is three moves ahead of me or so
[08:34] <rdw200169> surt: hehe, be careful... a bad drive can get you in a LOT of trouble... i thank S.M.A.R.T. everday for its everknowing wonderfulness and prompt smartness at letting me know when my drive is gonna fail...
[08:34] <sprung> and you can use undo and i still can't win
[08:34] <jep1985> maybe just try installing from tasksel
[08:34] <jep1985> select LAMP server (go to little box and hit space bar) hit tab and hit ok
[08:34] <greezmunkey> Nikkk: I had the same issue a while back, I got great help in #mysql - It's worth a shot.
[08:34] <sprung> im not saying im great at chess but i know how to play and should be able to beat the thing on easy
[08:34] <rdw200169> surt: its actually a feature of the drive, not ubuntu/windows/mac etc...
[08:34] <maco> StuartPB: with overwriting+backup?   sed -i.bak 's;#!/usr/bin/env python2;#!/usr/bin/env python;' *.py            <-- may need to add spaces between shebang and slash
[08:34] <StuartPB> maco: they're not .pys
[08:35] <surt> rdw200169: I know. It's a pretty cool function of the HDD.
[08:35] <Nikkk> @greezmunkey - Thanks a lot ! :)
[08:35] <maco> StuartPB: ok then *
[08:35] <coolmadmax> sprung, why not human vs human ---- you could be 2nd one
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> sprung:  perhaps at -> http://www.chessopolis.com/tutorials.htm
[08:35] <surt> rdw200169: I don't if I'm interpreting the info correctly though, I think I'm getting errors.
[08:35] <sprung> Nikkk, yeah just don't have mysql help you when you mess something up administration-wise they want you to fail
[08:35] <sprung> i had a bad experience with #mysql
[08:35] <sprung> they are like "so go get trained we're not going to help you"
[08:36] <surt> rdw200169: "04 71 03 80 01 32 e0  Device Fault; Error: ABR"
[08:36] <greezmunkey> Nikkk: I wish I could relate the fix to you, but I don't remember right now. It was about a two or three step process, and viola! I was in.
[08:36] <StuartPB> maco: is that recursive
[08:36] <surt> rdw200169: "04 71 03 80 01 32 e0  Device Fault; Error: ABRT"
[08:36] <maco> StuartPB: no
[08:36] <sprung> coolmadmax, that would be cool
[08:36] <greezmunkey> surt: there it is!
[08:36] <maco> StuartPB: if you need recursive, you'll need to mash that into find's -exec {}
[08:36] <rdw200169> surt: haha, i have no idea what that is... where are those SMART codes listed again... hint hint ;)
[08:37] <sprung> Nikkk, all i'm saying is this: #mysql tends not to be as helpful as a lot of the other channels
[08:37] <greezmunkey> rdw200169: heh smart - a shell game played by drive manufacturers...
[08:37] <StuartPB> maco: no, it looks like directory should be OK
[08:37] <op_amp> Can I install Daily Build image of Natty using simple wubi installer? I mean auto partions and simple 7 step installation.
[08:37] <surt> That hex isn't it?
[08:37] <surt> "04 71 03 80 01 32 e0"??
[08:38] <greezmunkey> surt: the e0 is a dead give away