[00:00] <Sgt_Shultz> Look ColW
[00:00] <Sgt_Shultz> oops
[00:01] <Ben64> XMLnewbi: if you have the normal install of apache, you can just put basic configs into sites-available and sites-enabled
[00:02] <seamus_> Whenever I scroll or backspace past the end of a text, I get a loud beep that isn't controlled by anything in my sound settings. I'm running GNOME Classic on Lubuntu 12.10. What should I try?
[00:04] <Sgt_Shultz> a shorter beep & u got morse ...
[00:04] <cmdr> jmd deutsch?
[00:04] <k1l_> cmdr: wir haben einen deutschen channel: #ubuntu-de
[00:05] <shortstraw8> what is the correct way to unpack a tar.gz file cause upack200 is not working
[00:05] <Ben64> tar zxfv blah.tar.gz
[00:05] <k1l_> !rootirc > cmdr
[00:05] <seamus_> Do it again and I get remorse. Seriously, the beep is way louder than any other sounds. x(
[00:05] <hays> is there an irc channel for chrubuntu?
[00:06] <k1l_> !alis | hays you tried that
[00:07] <Sgt_Shultz> seamus_, TRY ANOTHER KEYBOARD, MAYBE 4  A START, MAYBE A FAULT
[00:07] <k1l_> seamus_: you mean the pc speaker?
[00:08] <k1l_> seamus_: that should be blacklisted anyway iirc
[00:08] <Sgt_Shultz> oooops, caps
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> shortstraw8: install unp and use it for all archives.
[00:09] <k1l_> seamus_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194744/how-to-disable-internal-speaker-audio try that
[00:10] <dingo311> am i to assume by the lack of response that no one knows? i dont want to waste my time and yours if its unanswerable right now. i also dont want to flood by asking every 10 minutes
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> hays: possibly #ubuntu-arm may know
[00:10] <hays> k1l_: is there some subtle way to use that?  I don't see an obvious channel
[00:10] <seamus_> Ah, thank you! My friend knew what the problem was immediately when you mentioned pc speaker.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> dingo311: using sudo sets root's settings, not your users
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> dingo311: run:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[00:11] <shortstraw8> ActionParsnip, Cool worked perfect thanks
[00:12] <Dionist> ActionParsnip Hey there. Actually, I don't have any problem right now, I just wanted to thank you for all the help. I'm greatly enjoying my Ubuntu'd Mac.
[00:12] <dingo311> ActionParsnip: without sudo i get operation not permitted....not sure i have pulseaudio, i didnt install it...
[00:12] <dingo311> ActionParsnip: just alsa
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Dionist: no worries dude, thanks for the gratitude :)
[00:13] <Dionist> ActionParsnip Actually, just one little more thing. I figured out how to get IRC client up and running, but where's the Ubuntu off topic room, and how do I look up a list of rooms based on a keyword, if that's possible?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !alis | Dionist
[00:14] <zsm1703> hi、
[00:14] <Dionist> Thanks!
[00:15] <Dionist> ...
[00:15] <Dionist> That's a LOT of Ubuntu rooms.
[00:16] <bianca>  well will VMware work on my system? will i be able to play games ? because wine isnt working for me
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> bianca: games run really badly in virtualized systems.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> bianca: did the opensource game work ok?
[00:17] <bianca> but i have an 8core and 16 gigs of ram, so i could give it 4 cores and 8 gigs of ram?
[00:17] <bianca> yeha
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> bianca: its the video card access than raw resources
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> bianca: did you check the appdb for compatibility with your wine game?
[00:19] <stlu> I'm trying to remove Unity and having problems.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> stlu: I suggest you just install a new shell and leave unity installed. It doesn't take much space on the drive
[00:20] <k1l_> !rootirc > root__
[00:20] <stlu> @ActionParsnip: I really need to wipe out unity and Gnome3 libs because it causes lots of problems with my wanted desktop MATE.
[00:21] <bianca> yes, but i just get a black screen when i launch it..
[00:21] <bianca> ill start over i guess
[00:21] <stlu> Is there a way to force apt-get to remove all dependant packages instead of installing more packages to satisfy the dependencies?
[00:22] <nabblet> hi, how can i add inadyn (dyn-dns updater) to autostart so that it get's started even if no one logs in.
[00:22] <erenilson> NIC connecting and disconnecting, normally works in win 7 (dual boot)
[00:22] <Schumi24> The Ubuntu Software Center seems to be crashing each time I try to open it - is there a way to reinstall it, or somethign similar?
[00:23] <erenilson> can anyone help me??
[00:23] <stlu> Is there a way to force apt-get to remove all dependencies of the packages I want to purge?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Schumi24: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
[00:23] <stlu> This is the tutorial I am trying to follow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12469027#post12469027
[00:23] <jrib> stlu: apt-get autoremove   (in theory :))
[00:23] <nabblet> erenilson, i had a similar problem with my wireless card - since ubuntu 12.04 - it was no problme under 10.04
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> bianca: what game are you trying to launch?
[00:24] <bianca> League of legends
[00:24] <stlu> jrib: that will only install the old linux headers from the last update.
[00:24] <Schumi24> That worked. Thanks ActionParsnip  :D
[00:24] <jrib> stlu: what?
[00:24] <stlu> *that will only remove ...
[00:24] <k1l_> stlu: do it the other way. first install mate and then remove unity
[00:24] <Schumi24> I really gotta change the default nick, I made a typo when I entered it
[00:25] <erenilson> I installed ubuntu 12.10, is to fix this problem?
[00:25] <gunarm_> what does it mean when my server that I ssh into every day suddenly says "The autheticity of host can't be established"  Did something expire or am I getting hacked?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> bianca: did you patch wine?
[00:25] <jrib> stlu: it will only work if the dependencies were installed *automatically* because you manually installed some other package
[00:25] <gunarm_> it gives the ECDSA finger print and asks if I want to continue as if it was a new server
[00:25] <stlu> kll_ I did install MATE, it has no effect on my problem, apt-get wanted to install 100MB+ of KDE packages and libs - this is not Kubuntu, its mainstream ubuntu
[00:26] <k1l_> stlu: you are sure mate or the ppa doesnt want to install that?
[00:27] <majnoon> for some reason vlc plugin no work in chrome ,it NOT a major problem :)
[00:27] <guigouz> hello, I'm setting my video modes on xorg.conf, but when I start X, it still lists a lot of modes, tried disabling EDID and other stuff, no luck, any ideas ? 12.04 here
[00:27] <erenilson> I installed ubuntu 12.10, is to fix this problem?
[00:27] <stlu> kll_: I'm certain, these "extra" packages are related to ubuntu, not MATE.
[00:27] <guigouz> *i mean xrandr still lists a lot of modes
[00:28] <stlu> I am following this exactly on a default install, (+MATE) and the tutorial doesn't mention all the extra crap downloading. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12469027#post12469027
[00:28] <stlu> sorry, its this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[00:29] <Falados_> Having a problem booting 12.10.  It seems once it runs initrd the system reboots - no errors. Any way to see what's going on?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Falados_: have you tested your ram?
[00:30] <Falados_> ActionParsnip, no have not tested ram.  Had 12.04 Kubuntu installed before with no issues.
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Falados_: its a good starting point
[00:30] <Falados_> ok I'll try that.  If that isn't the problem - is there any other next step?
[00:31] <Falados_> ActionParsnip, I also have my root fs on LVM, if that makes a difference.
[00:31] <stlu> Is there a way to discover the packages that rely on others in a system?
[00:32] <fbdystang> I just installed an server instance, but I keep getting incorrect password attempts. Is there a way to find out my password?
[00:32] <stlu> That way I could add them in and then there wont be any reason to install the extra crap.
[00:32] <nabblet> problem solved http://blog.schmidt.br.com/2012/04/installing-dyndns-inadyn-as-service-on.html
[00:32] <dr_willis> fbdystang:  not really. normal method would be use recovery mode or a livce cd and reset the password to a known one.
[00:33] <LiThiuME3> Hmm quick question should : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58846 -j ACCEPT     forward port and accept connection from the port 58846
[00:33] <jrib> stlu: apt-cache depends?  apt-cache rdepends?  I'm not sure what you are actually doing.
[00:33] <wachpwnski> I've installed SLiM, Cinnamon, and Xorg, now how do I configure them together to run with startx?
[00:33] <w0rm-_x> c
[00:34] <fbdystang> dr_willis: is there a way I can just get to be root to fix?
[00:34] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  you wouldent use startx to start a loginmanager like slim
[00:34] <k1l_> wachpwnski: no not startx
[00:34] <dr_willis> fbdystang:  recovery console from the grub menu
[00:34] <erenilson> quit
[00:34] <stlu> jrib: I am removing the packages listed on this tutorial, so that MATE won't conflict with Unity or Gnome3 daemons. http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> fbdystang: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[00:34] <wachpwnski> k1l_:  How do I configure Cinnamon with startx then?
[00:34] <fbdystang> ActionParsnip: thnx :)
[00:34] <jrib> stlu: and?  what's the output?
[00:35] <k1l_> wachpwnski: start a desktopmanager and start cinnamon from there
[00:35] <jrib> stlu: also, are you sure you need to?  Why don't you just install mate?  What conflicts?
[00:35] <stlu> jrib: apt-get progressively wants to install more alternate packages as I try to remove them.
[00:35] <jrib> stlu: that's too vague
[00:35] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  the login manager should show a listg including the available desktops
[00:36] <stlu> jrib: it got ridiculous and actually tried pushing KDE packages and libs on me when I tried to remove the Gnome3 ones.
[00:36] <k1l_> wachpwnski: as slim is in the repos why not installing slim? it should configure itself as the dm
[00:36] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  how do I configure the login manager to start?
[00:36] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  it should be doing that allready. unless you disabled it.
[00:36] <wachpwnski> k1l_:  I did, so I just reboot now?
[00:36] <jrib> stlu: does official mate documentation say you need to remove them?  Might be easier to just leave the alternate desktop and not use it
[00:36] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  this is a server install
[00:37] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  shouldent matter. you install the lightdm or whatever dm and it sets up as a service
[00:37] <jrib> stlu: see here: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
[00:37] <stlu> Official MATE documentation will probably end up being modified by me for Ubuntu -specific problems.
[00:38] <jrib> stlu: what do you mean?  They have ubuntu-specific directions there
[00:38] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  it is saying "failed to load session "ubuntu"
[00:38] <stlu> gnome-settings-daemon, for one, will crash the mate-settings-daemon and all icons and styles will be missing.
[00:38] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  what is saying that
[00:38] <jrib> stlu: so don't run it?  Is mate running gnome-settings-daemon for some reason?
[00:39] <stlu> jrib: the ubuntu-specific documentation does not take these problems into acount. I will probably be the only one who updates it.
[00:39] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  when I login with slim
[00:39] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  select a differnt desktop   to use from the login manager screen
[00:40] <stlu> jrib: that isn't the only problem.  I'll spare you the details but the bottom line is, I can't wate for Mubuntu to materialize, I need Unity and Gnome3 OUT.
[00:40] <jrib> stlu: have you actually verified that it's still a problem?  For example here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-mate-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-12-04precise11-10-oneiric.html there is mention of conflicts with gnome being fixed
[00:41] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  i think i have to link my session to cinnamon
[00:41] <stlu> jrib: that is the same documentation as in the MATE wiki.  I don't think many users have actually tried it because there are lots of unsolved problems even with the current version 1.4
[00:41] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  i would hope that cinnamon adds a proper .desktop entry for the login managers to use.. if not - i wouldent put much faith in cinnamon
[00:41] <cjae> to use a samba client only does my user have to be in samba group?
[00:42] <fsdfs> real mean use debian, homos use ubuntu
[00:42] <fsdfs> just sayin
[00:42] <MarasLy> noluyo la burda
[00:42] <MarasLy> breh breh
[00:42] <MarasLy> simdi 1697 kiþi var ve kimse konusmuyormu :S
[00:43] <zykotick9> fsdfs's ignorant opinion do not reflect those of "debian users" as a whole
[00:43] <k1l_> !tr | MarasLy
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> cjae: i believe the default groups give enough access to access samba shares
[00:43] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  maybe I have to reinstall since I installed slim after
[00:44] <cjae> ActionParsnip: well the user is in sambashare group anyway
[00:44] <stlu> I have seen that the MATE problems don't occur when MATE is added ontop of Ubuntu server.  But I have a dell laptop with MATE and I don't want to change over to a server, I just want to remove Unity and the Gnome3libs.
[00:44] <Kajover> Hi. I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 (64-Bit) on my Macbook Air 2010. After experiencing graphic glitches I selected the nvidia drivers (current - tested) in "software sources" and am currently looking at this screen (http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=230500&d=1358897837). Does anybody have any idea how I might resolve this? Thank you very much in advance.
[00:44] <stlu> *I have a Dell laptop with Unity.
[00:44] <Kajover> does anybody have an idea how i might resolve this
[00:45] <cjae> ActionParsnip: I am just trying to get rid of zeroconf and setup a pure connection to my sambashare server
[00:45] <jrib> stlu: so remove them
[00:46] <cjae> ActionParsnip: Im getting very slow transfer speeds for having a gigabit lan
[00:46] <stlu> jrib: brings me back to original problem: apt-get then tries to keep installing more and more packages as I try to remove them.
[00:46] <jrib> stlu: I asked you to pastebin, but you don't
[00:47] <Dyl> Hello everyone
[00:47] <justmeh> !hi
[00:47] <justmeh> huh, nothing.
[00:48] <justmeh> Greetings anyway Dyl :)
[00:48] <MarasLy> hi channel
[00:48] <justmeh> cjae - samba?
[00:48] <justmeh> really?
[00:48] <zykotick9> justmeh: !hi was remove a long time ago ;)
[00:48] <justmeh> zykotick9, ah lol
[00:48] <X3MBoy> Good evening (-4:30 GMT)
[00:49] <cjae> justmeh: ya man, my nfs broken so how
[00:49] <cjae> some*
[00:49] <MarasLy> nece konusuyorlarsa
[00:49] <MarasLy> :D
[00:49] <justmeh> cjae, ok lets talk about the real issue then, nfs
[00:49] <justmeh> What's broken about it?
[00:50] <Dyl> I am now in a lot of trouble lol. I forgot my main admin accounts password in Ubuntu and I only have access to a guest account. Is there anyway I can regain access to my other account? I dun want to format the pc. :/
[00:50] <jrib> stlu: I'll be back in ~15
[00:50] <justmeh> Dyl, yes
[00:50] <justmeh> grab a pencil:
[00:50] <justmeh> 1. reboot and hold shift if you don't see grub menu
[00:50] <justmeh> 2. boot the recovery kernel
[00:50] <justmeh> 3. drop to shell
[00:50] <bianca> ActionParsnip im still reinstalling it
[00:50] <justmeh> 4. you should now be root; run: 'passwd $username'
[00:51] <justmeh> if this fails, you will need to grab a live cd and chroot in
[00:51] <Dyl> justmeh: the guest account has adminstrator priveleges. is there anything I can do with that?
[00:51] <justmeh> sure
[00:51] <cjae> justmeh: well I have some kind  of a seroconfig on my system that lets me see my nas smb and nfs shares. But either the nfs is broken on the nas or something is wrong with this zeroconf thing
[00:52] <justmeh> sudo passwd $username
[00:52] <k1l_> Dyl: no it hasnt administrativ privileges
[00:52] <k1l_> Dyl: its not in the sudoers group
[00:52] <k1l_> (which makes sense as its a guest account :) )
[00:53] <cjae> justmeh: also Ive asked in the nas channel and users seem to have no issue with nfs on nas version
[00:53] <justmeh> ok
[00:53] <justmeh> and what NAS?
[00:53] <cjae> justmeh: nas4free
[00:53] <Dyl> is there a terminal command to list all users on a system?
[00:54] <cjae> .573
[00:54] <justmeh> Dyl, maybe you can do: ls /home
[00:54] <Dyl> *usernames
[00:54] <fishscene> Please allow me to express my displeasure on trying to Download the Ubuntu CD's for Mac... http://www.ubuntu.com/download I mean, is it too much to ask for the link to "alternate download" remain on the download screen? Now I have to go to Google and search for the Download repository... not a good way to keep people on the Ubuntu website. :(
[00:54] <Kajover> can anybody please help me with installing nvidia drivers correctly.. i've selected them in software sources but my macbook air (2010) wont boot
[00:54] <justmeh> you might not be able to read passwd: cat /etc/passwd /etc/shadow
[00:54] <justmeh> fishscene, agreed, i would submit a feature request
[00:55] <Kajover> stuck at brcms_ops_bss_info changed: arp filtering: enabled true, count 1 (implement)
[00:55] <fishscene> Where can I do that?
[00:55] <justmeh> lets take a look
[00:55] <justmeh> http://www.ubuntu.com/community
[00:56] <cjae> justmeh: but smb is connecting via the zeroconf and thats why I was messing with it
[00:56] <fishscene> WAIT. nvm. Link is on the bottom of the download page
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode and select root, then run:  nvidia-xconfig ; reboot
[00:56] <fishscene> ...I think it could be labeled better, but heck, the functionality is there at least. =\
[00:56] <justmeh> cjae, out of curiosity, why zeroconf it at all?
[00:56] <justmeh> personally I consider this type of behavior to be reckless
[00:57] <fbdystang> ActionParsnip: It looks like that the non working password is a system password. How to reset that?
[00:57] <cjae> justmeh: because I works through the dolphin filemanger and I just that to spliit screen cause its right there, no REAL reason. I would like to strip zero right off if I could
[00:57] <cjae> using kde but have gnome shell too
[00:58] <justmeh> well http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ would be the spot
[00:58] <Kajover> ActionParsnip: Unable to write to X11
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> f_droopy: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root then run:  passwd foo; reboot    change foo for your username. Eg:   passwd dave; reboot
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: is it read only per chance?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: run:   mount -o remount,rw /
[00:58] <Kajover> im not an expert. how do i check that
[00:58] <Kajover> ok
[00:59] <justmeh> cjae, why don't you walk us through the whole issue. so you have a nas(?) storage device. it uses ipv4. its set to zeroconf?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: then retry the first command
[00:59] <justmeh> you have a desktop, runs kde/gnome, works in kde, not gnome
[00:59] <justmeh> all that correct?
[00:59] <cjae> justmeh: yes
[00:59] <justmeh> ok good
[00:59] <cjae> no works in gnome too
[00:59] <cjae> just painfully slow
[00:59] <justmeh> this kde/gnome, do they live side by side in the same install, or are they seperate boxen or seperate installs?
[01:00] <justmeh> ok
[01:00] <cjae> there is something wrong with kio -slave in kde though
[01:00] <cjae> side by side
[01:00] <cjae> gnome file manager is slighly faster
[01:01] <justmeh> ok
[01:01] <justmeh> when you run a nautilus window from a terminal and try it, does it give out any errors? what about  the kde?
[01:02] <justmeh> what versions of samba are being used on each device?
[01:02] <justmeh> making sense?
[01:02] <cjae> yes
[01:02] <justmeh> imagine you are trying to get tech support.... ;)
[01:02] <cjae> nfs://nas4free.local:2049/mnt/first/  no such file or device
[01:03] <tonsofpcs>  ?
[01:03] <justmeh> ok
[01:03] <justmeh> you may have an issue with dns
[01:03] <justmeh> nslookup nas4free.local
[01:04] <heywood> ActionParsnip: thanks for the ssh tips earlier. (nice nick, BTW :) ).
[01:05] <Kajover> ActionParsnip: Warning: unable to locate/open X configuration file. New X configuration written to /etc/x11/xorg.conf -> Secont time: using x configuration file: /etc/x11/xorg.conf"; backed up  file '/etc/x11/xorg.conf' as  '/etc/x11/xorg.conf.backup'; new x configuration file written to 'etc/x11/xorg.conf'
[01:05] <heywood> dr_willis: thanks for the help earlier.
[01:05] <cjae> justmeh: into cmd?
[01:05] <cjae> or in naut
[01:06] <justmeh> cmd
[01:06] <cjae> http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=lc0u6boqcx116r00rw4e.png
[01:06] <Kajover> ActionParsnip: still... this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=230500&d=1358897837
[01:06] <seamus_> It seems text boxes are still beeping. I realized when I tested it I was using the google search box, which never made that sound anyways. And the sound it's making isn't a pcspkr beep, but the same as the "Default" alert sound. Even though alert sounds are turned off....
[01:06] <ubuntuapps> hi all
[01:07] <cjae> justmeh: server can't find nas4free.local: NXDOMAIN
[01:07] <ubuntuapps> how do i promote an app?
[01:07] <ubuntuapps> I have published a game on the oubuntu software center
[01:07] <ubuntuapps> but its not getting any purchases
[01:07] <phomer> hey, I'm a new Ubuntu and I'm having trouble launching Spring Tools Suite. I just closed it 5 minutes ago so I know it's working. When I click on the icon on unity launcher it just keeps blinking slowly. I tried to find the process via htop (and kill it), but I couldn't find any matches for STS.
[01:07] <FloodBot1> ubuntuapps: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <ubuntuapps> how do i promote my app?
[01:08] <justmeh> cjae, yup
[01:08] <cjae> justmeh: http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=7qp4ntjoxodv4k0let07.png
[01:09] <seamus_> pcspkr and snd_pcsp are already blacklisted and not running, but I still get beeps.
[01:09] <justmeh> ok
[01:09] <justmeh> then set the ip explicitly, with a /32
[01:09] <justmeh> that would only give it one ip to choose from..
[01:10] <justmeh> and gateway shouldnt matter as long as the machines making requests were on the same /24
[01:10] <justmeh> but perhaps you should ping the freenas doods?
[01:10] <cjae> right
[01:10] <cjae> dont know what you mean by a /32
[01:11] <cjae> give an ip instead
[01:11] <MarasLy> mýnayim bura ne ya
[01:11] <MarasLy> bombok
[01:11] <cgkades> cjae: /32 is in reference to the subnet mask
[01:11] <justmeh> http://www.netlife.co.za/tech-guides/49-network-attached-storage-nas-devices/76-improve-freenas-smb-performance.html
[01:11] <seamus_> They don't happen in the terminal, but xchat's message prompt, chromium's url, and system settings prompts all beep loudly if I press backspace or left at the end. This is especially painful when browsing and listening to music, as the beep is far, FAR louder than the music.
[01:11] <justmeh> good google search: "gnome samba slow freenas" no quotes
[01:12] <cjae> right like cidr
[01:12] <justmeh> yes
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: in sounds, I belive there is a bell volume
[01:12] <justmeh> so if it zeroconf's to an ip in that range then setting it to a /32 is effectively giving it a static ip
[01:12] <justmeh> if instead that's an ACL it could break it
[01:12] <justmeh> (like an allowed hosts setting)
[01:12] <cjae> ok
[01:13] <seamus_> In settings, under sound, there are five tabs: Output, Input, Hardware, Sound Effects, and Applications. Sound Effects has an alert volume option, but it is already muted.
[01:14] <seamus_> And in alsamixer, Beep is muted and set to zero.
[01:14] <justmeh> system bell seamus_
[01:14] <justmeh> that's the one
[01:15] <Kajover> ActionParsnip: Do you have any other idea?
[01:15] <justmeh> would also do it with a double tab doing a bash tab complete with multiple matches
[01:15] <seamus_> Also, for some reason, changing the default alert sound more than once causes the settings program to crash....
[01:15] <seamus_> justmeh: Not an option.
[01:16] <justmeh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6560023&postcount=4
[01:16] <confused_> most run dual boot systems, I dont do games so is it likely I could do with ubuntu only?
[01:17] <justmeh> confused_, I would recommend doing dual boot while learning to do everything
[01:17] <justmeh> but, instead, lets talk about what you do do. what do you do?
[01:17]  * justmeh is do'ing it
[01:17] <seamus_> pcspkr is already blacklisted. 'modprobe -r pcspkr' doesn't do anything and 'rmmod pcspkr' raises an error saying the proc doesn't exist.
[01:18] <confused_> just everyday stuff
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: not sure, sorry
[01:19] <confused_> I have two drives I could erase and put ubuntu and windows on each, or its better just dual boot one drive?
[01:19] <justmeh> then try toggling the setting in alsamixer
[01:19] <Kajover> thank you anyway
[01:19] <confused_> alsamixer, I will look that up
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> confused_: i'd put ubuntu on the same drive as windows, then have a shared ntfs area for user data on the other drive as well as an ntfs partition for pagefile and %tmp% then a partition for swap
[01:20] <Annette01> Hello everybody, Is it okay to ask questions here?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[01:20] <confused_> yes ann
[01:21] <blkadder> Annette01: It depends on the question, but generally yes.
[01:21] <Annette01> Im trying to install ubuntu on my computer, but when i run the live usb both to install, and run off the usb it freezes after a ton of command line stuff
[01:21] <Annette01> Ive tried three usb sticks, all differnt sizes and brans
[01:21] <Annette01> brands*
[01:22] <Annette01> i also disabled the ufei thing in the bios
[01:22] <seamus_> "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l" Sorry, I know I said 12.10 earlier. I'm helping a friend fix this machine and forgot he wanted the LTS....
[01:22] <blkadder> We'd need the error message in order to help...
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: did you MD5 tes the ISO you downloaded?
[01:22] <blkadder> Or at least I would. :-)
[01:22] <seamus_> It's an odd set-up for an old machine. Installed Lubuntu to get around a compatibility issue with the CPU, then put GNOME 3 over it, but he runs GNOME Classic.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: did you look in sound settings, there is a bell volume
[01:23] <Annette01> Im not super in the know. But what is a md5 test?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Annette01
[01:23] <seamus_> There doesn't appear to be such a thing in sound settings, in any of the five tabs or any of the lists inside those..... However, I may have solved it by disabling something in alsamixer called "external amplifier". Let me test real quickly.
[01:23] <Annette01> Thanks ^_^
[01:23] <Annette01> Ill look here!
[01:24] <seamus_> Nope. It turned off all sound.
[01:24] <seamus_> Turning it back on leaves me with the same problem.
[01:24] <Sgt_Shultz> seamus_, change keyboard or maybe look in BIOS to see if "beep on error" is on, it maybe a hardware thing
[01:25] <seamus_> Ok. Can't change keyboards, since it's a laptop, but will check BIOS.
[01:25] <Annette01> IT says the checksums are differnt, what does that mean?
[01:25] <Annette01> oh wait
[01:25] <Annette01> i missed a step
[01:26] <seamus_> Though, would it be a hardware thing if it sounds like the default alert sound? Like someone strumming some weird metallic but not-instrument string thing. xP
[01:26] <seamus_> Not like a pure tone or harsh generic beep. Just way too loud.
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: different hashes means the image is corrupted
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: try:    xset -b off
[01:27] <Annette01> ActionParsnip: It matches, i didnt copy paste into the thing
[01:27] <blkadder> Annette01: Then we're back to needing the error message....
[01:28] <m000gle> Is there any way to integrate additional software with the Message Menu in Ubuntu 12.10? ... Specifically, none of Pidgin, Skype, X-Chat, Liferea etc appear in the Message Menu appindicator, despite being available there in previous releases
[01:28] <seamus_> Oddly, it throws an error at me if I try "xset -b off", suggesting the syntax is "xset -b b off". Neither command helped though. :/
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1652309   set the sound theme to none (i like this too, stupid sounds interrupting my media)
[01:28] <Annette01> the last thing i see before it just hardlocks in the long line of command prompt looking stuff is something about ata control
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: what video chip do you use?
[01:28] <Annette01> nvidia 670m
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: please remember to md5 test in future?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: ahh, what CPU?
[01:29] <Annette01> intel core i7 3610-qm
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: so its an Optimus setup?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: switchable GPU
[01:29] <Annette01> Nope, its a pure nvidia setup. Non switchable
[01:30] <Annette01> Its a g75vw asus rog laptop.
[01:30] <seamus_> Hm, perhaps I have an old version of the sound settings program? Mine does not look like that. Doesn't have theme option, nor the previously mentioned bell option....
[01:30] <seamus_> How would I update it?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: http://ark.intel.com/products/64899/Intel-Core-i7-3610QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz   says it has an intel 4000 HD
[01:30] <wachpwnski> Wow
[01:30] <wachpwnski> I just installed my desktop environment and slim
[01:31] <wachpwnski> cinnamon must be beta or something
[01:31] <Annette01> The cpu may have it but the GPU used isnt a optimus enable chip
[01:31] <Sgt_Shultz> seamus_, maybe if its older laptop, its only got basic sound hardware ....
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> wachpwnski: its an unofficial gnome2 fork
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: try the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[01:32] <wachpwnski> It's choppy and the windows cannot be moved?
[01:32] <wachpwnski> or closed
[01:32] <Annette01> Okay. Im not sure what that means. How do i do that boot option?
[01:32] <dylan> I'm having a little bit of a strange problem.  I can't click anything on the launcher in Unity.  It appears when I mouse over the left side, but I can't click anything.  I can only click stuff if I enable my laptop screen (I have a second monitor hooked up to my home laptop, which I just use as a desktop) in display settings, and set the launcher to appear on both monitors.  Even then it only works on the laptop screen.
[01:33] <seamus_> Alright, I'm going to try checking the BIOS, brb.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> dylan: same in a different session, like xfce?
[01:34] <Annette01> ActionParsnip: Sorry, im a bit of a newbie to this all.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | Annette01
[01:35] <reconmaster> anyone recommend a good laptop to use with *nix? I've been looking into system76
[01:36] <justmeh> reconmaster, ive never bothered getting one made for nix
[01:36] <justmeh> but the biggest thing I would watch for is the included wifi device
[01:37] <justmeh> make sure its fully supported in *nix, and that you can packet capture with it
[01:37] <justmeh> (fully functional)
[01:37] <reconmaster> yeah, i've never bought a *nix specific one, but I don't want to shell ot for windows 8
[01:37] <reconmaster> didn't know if the mainstream ones just have oem hardware you can buy or not
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> reconmaster: dell will preinstall ubuntu (if memory serves)
[01:38] <Annette01> I think i heard that too, but only a select few laptops and desktops.
[01:39] <Sgt_Shultz> it a crime with MAc & mScrap names all over it .... bundling
[01:39] <escott> ActionParsnip, reconmaster  but then you have dell. I would rather shoot myself personally
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> escott: my D420 runs 100% OOTB :)
[01:41] <reconmaster> yeah, i've been running an asus netbook, but it is just too slow to be serviceable.  and now i really dont want to even see what doze 8 is about
[01:41] <reconmaster> but thanks guys for the help, just thought i would check on here
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> reconmaster: could run lubuntu on the netbook
[01:46] <Annette01> Ive played around with windows 8 for a bit, for windows its ccualy not so bad, i think 90% of the rage is the same stuff people put towards linux, its just the matter of "new" and change. Theres some serious faults for sure though. And ive wanted to try ubuntu again for a while ive just not had the harddrive room until i got this new laptop :)
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: as the song goes; every OS sucks
[01:48] <xbskid> ActionParsnip: RISC OS? :)
[01:48] <ericentrino> ubuntu is nice, first time i use it
[01:49] <Annette01> ActionParsnip: So very true, haha.
[01:49] <Annette01> ActionParsnip: Potato = best os
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> xbskid: they all crash dude
[01:49] <xbskid> Potatos don't crash :(
[01:50] <Annette01> If you leave them sitting for too long they spoil, thats kinda like crashing, isnt it?
[01:52] <Sgt_Shultz> it is about being able to use your machine, I had a customer that used a Commodore64, 4 19 years, because it can doing the work, and he knew the system ...
[01:53] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know how to turn drivers that worked in 12.04.1 into drivers that work on a popular linux-based mobile os (which shall remain nameless)?
[01:53] <antonio__> I'm planning on upgrading my 10.04 to the latest version..
[01:53] <antonio__> Should I upgrade straight from 10.04 to the latest..or should I upgrade sequentially?
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: you can upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 directly, then to 12.10 if you want#
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: ^
[01:55] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: do you have any experience porting from one distro to another?
[01:55] <bk> what package includes apaste?
[01:56] <rypervenche> linux_is_my_hero: We would need to know the distro to be able to tell.
[01:57] <linux_is_my_hero> ubuntu 12.04.1 to android 4.0
[01:59] <MrDyne>  /topic
[01:59] <antonio__> actionparsnip: Am I supposed to be able to see an upgrade ubuntu in the ubuntu update manager? I can't see anything like that
[02:00] <linux_is_my_hero> antonio_: for what its worth, my 12.04.1 machine doesn't have that button either.
[02:00] <MrDyne> I'm not sure if this is correct thinking, but isn't it good pratice to run java/Minecraft server with an extra limited user account?
[02:01] <rypervenche> MrDyne: It's a smart thing to do, yes.
[02:01] <fishscene> MrDyne: When running anything, it's always best to give the least-amount of priviledges as possible.
[02:01] <MrDyne> Can you recommend a guide on how to do this?
[02:02] <rypervenche> You can create a jailed account. There are some useful packages that can help with this.
[02:02] <rypervenche> I don't know if "jail" is available on Ubuntu though.
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | antonio__
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> MrDyne: you could even run it in a chroot if you are super paranoid
[02:03] <courblah> can anyone help me..i have a line 6 toneport kb37 sound card but there is no driver for ubuntu..please help?
[02:04] <MrDyne> Well I have a Xubuntu desktop computer that we are using as our groups dedicated server. So the more security the better.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> courblah: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[02:05] <courblah> i have no clue :)
[02:05] <noiro> Hey guys, my screen keeps going black as if in screensaver after like 10 minutes. I turned off the lock, any reason for this?
[02:05] <escott> noiro, dpms
[02:05] <MrDyne> My next question was going to be on setting up a good firewall. What is a easy to config firewall for a gaming dedicated webserver computer.
[02:06] <cub> noiro, mine does the same.. :\
[02:06] <escott> noiro, you can "xset -dpms" and it should stay on
[02:06] <fishscene> MrDyne: For that, if you have a spare computer lying around with 2 network interfaces, I recommend smoothwall
[02:06] <fishscene> (smoothwall.org)
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> courblah: you won't. you need to run the command
[02:08] <fishscene> MrDyne: Aside from that, almost any router that can do port forwarding (NOT PORT TRIGGERING!) should be good. Depends on your scale though. If you have 50+ users, you might want to look into a serious hardware firewall.
[02:08] <fishscene> ...but I'm a bit off-topic at the moment. :P
[02:08] <justi665> Hello
[02:08] <MrDyne> No we only got 20 players but at most 12 play..
[02:09] <MrDyne> Would a Linksys router modded with DD-WRT be enough>
[02:10] <courblah> i run it
[02:10] <fishscene> MrDyne: That should be fine, but go ahead and PM me on this topic as we're off-topic for this channel
[02:10] <courblah> it gave me : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=085e34c5ba9e5639409e9c6daec82838b44bea73
[02:10] <MrDyne> err how?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> courblah: ok, are you using the hdmi or the sound card?
[02:17] <courblah> it is an external sound card,that is connecting via usb cable (line 6 toneport kb37)
[02:17] <noiro> escott: didn't work
[02:19] <courblah> http://line6.com/legacy/toneportkb37 this is the sound card i have,there is no drivers for it :(
[02:21] <micmic> ciao
[02:21] <micmic> non riesco piu ad entrare in sortcenter
[02:21] <XMLnewbi> so I moved my site over to nginx           site pulled up but my links are offering a download of the page.php rather then going to the page
[02:21] <micmic> potete aiutarmi?
[02:22] <bean> XMLnewbi: you have to install the php module for nginx
[02:22] <escott> XMLnewbi, i thought nginx was a caching accelerator. does it have a php module?
[02:22] <bean> escott: nginx is like apache, but event model
[02:23] <XMLnewbi> maybe i need to install 5.4 http://www.sitepoint.com/php-with-nginx-is-about-to-become-a-lot-easier/   ?
[02:23] <bean> XMLnewbi: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-nginx-with-php5-and-php-fpm-and-mysql-support-lemp-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts
[02:24] <bean> XMLnewbi: you have to tell it what to do, in the config
[02:24] <BeefTaco> Hello all
[02:24] <XMLnewbi> thanks, im working though that link
[02:24] <bean> XMLnewbi: obvs ignore stuff about mysql
[02:26] <BeefTaco> I have an external drive mounted at /media/username/MediaDrive. What I want to do is create a user called Friends that will have ONLY read and execute permissions on a couple of folders on this drive via ssh. How do I do this?
[02:26] <escott> BeefTaco, is the external drive NTFS?
[02:26] <mox> Hola
[02:27] <BeefTaco> escott: Yes, I made sure not to set it up as FAT32 when I formatted it.
[02:27] <escott> BeefTaco, then what you propose is impossible
[02:27] <linux_is_my_hero> micmic: io non parlo italiano, ma Google Translate fa. quando si dice che non può entrare nel sortcenter, vuoi dire il menu cruscotto?
[02:27] <BeefTaco> escott: Even if it is being ssh'ed into from an NTFS system?
[02:28] <escott> BeefTaco, to some extent what you propose is impossible even with a proper partition. depends on whether or not you accept chroot jails as a legit solution
[02:28] <BeefTaco> escott: What are chroot jails?
[02:28] <micmic> ma su canaIe ita non mi caga nessuno
[02:28] <escott> BeefTaco, NTFS is not POSIX. you cannot enforce POSIX permissions on it, hence you cannot apply different posix permissions to the same NTFS mountpoint
[02:29] <BeefTaco> escott: Meaning that the permissions cannot be set per user?
[02:29] <micmic> softwarecenter
[02:29] <escott> BeefTaco, there is one fake set of permissions per NTFS mountpoint.
[02:30] <micmic> aiutami Iinux
[02:30] <escott> BeefTaco, on top of that you have noexec and a host of other annoyances
[02:31] <escott> BeefTaco, assuming you switch to a proper posix filesystem then you could attempt a chroot jail but these days i would recommend a virtual machine over a chroot jail
[02:31] <micmic> heIpppppppppppppppppppp
[02:31] <BeefTaco> escott: What about a way to allow access to entire drive regardless of permissions? Would simple ssh do this?
[02:31] <micmic> he1pppppppppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:32] <linux_is_my_hero> micmic: quando la trovi nel menu cruscotto e fare clic su di esso, non si fa nulla?
[02:32] <escott> !it | mimic
[02:32] <linux_is_my_hero> thats cool theres an italian room :-)
[02:32] <micmic> si, apre Ia pagina ma poi non mi fa connettere
[02:33] <escott> BeefTaco, one thing you need to understand is that a user only exists on a system to the extent that they can run binaries. For example when I ssh into another machine I *am* /bin/bash
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: there are lots of channels for lots of languages :)
[02:34] <BeefTaco> Okay, that makes sense. Guess what I am try to do then is create a "restricted" user.
[02:34] <escott> BeefTaco, so removing execute permissions from someone is also a way to deny them access. you could copy /bin/bash and libc and some other basic necessities into a folder and chroot them to that, but (a) its a very limited environment (b) its hard to update (c) its security is no greater than what you copy to that directory
[02:35] <micmic> heIppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[02:35] <BeefTaco> escott: Limited environment is what I want. The whole purpose is to allow friends to access content on the drive remotely.
[02:35] <escott> BeefTaco, my recommendation if you wanted to give access to someone who you didnt trust would be to consider either an sftp jail (which means they can only upload/download) or a virtual machine (so you can trash the whole thing/start over if it gets compromised)
[02:35] <BeefTaco> Or have me access it on the restricted user from their house.
[02:35] <linux_is_my_hero> micmic: hai provato a spostare il computer a un altro collegamento ad internet? forse alcune porte sono bloccate.
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> micmic: what is the issue?
[02:36] <BeefTaco> escott: What is a good vm environment for ubuntu 12.10?
[02:36] <escott> BeefTaco, the NTFS thing just makes stuff more complicated because you dont have real permissions on those files (you cannot change them except for the entire disk at a time)
[02:36] <hoechts> Hi, I  have set up a new raid to /dev/md1 .. now i rebootet, and my raid is mounted on /dev/md127 .. how can i change it to /dev/md1?
[02:36] <micmic> no, ho soIo una connessione wifi
[02:36] <escott> BeefTaco, there are lots. kvm, xen, virtualbox. something like kvm could be made nice and lightweight
[02:36] <BeefTaco> escott: Thank you very much, I will try that as a solution :)
[02:37] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: i dont think he speaks english so i've been using google translate
[02:37] <Free99> BeefTaco: KVM is what ubuntu officially supports, I use it on several servers. real light and fast
[02:37] <courblah> hopeless:(
[02:37] <BeefTaco> Free99: Thank you for the reassurance :)
[02:37] <micmic> si vede che carica ma non si coIIega
[02:37] <micmic> mi da iI simboIo e basta
[02:38] <escott> hoechts, you might be able to play around with udev rules
[02:38] <hoechts> escott, where can i find more about this? i dont know udev
[02:38] <linux_is_my_hero> wifi come rete dati cellulare (4G), o come hotspot wifi coffee house?
[02:39] <xangua> !it | micmic linux_is_my_hero
[02:39] <micmic> suI canaIe in itaIiano non mi risponde nessuno
[02:40] <micmic> aItrimenti non sarei qui, non sono idiota
[02:40] <escott> hoechts, you can see some rules in /etc/udev/rules.d otherwise just look at man udev
[02:40] <hoechts> do you know if i can stop rebuilding an array which i have started manually?
[02:42] <micmic> sono anche suI canaIe itaIiano in questo momento
[02:42] <escott> hoechts, you can just stop the array
[02:42] <hoechts> escott, and then?
[02:42] <linux_is_my_hero> micmic: hai provato google translate? allora si può provare camere in molte lingue tra cui inglese :-)
[02:42] <escott> hoechts, and then hopefully it is stopped
[02:43] <hoechts> and how do i start it? there is data on that raid ;)
[02:43] <hoechts> i dont like loosing this data
[02:43] <escott> hoechts, stopping and starting an array does nothing to the data inside it
[02:43] <hoechts> it cost me 3 days to copy the data to that raid ;)
[02:43] <micmic> adesso ci provo, sperando bene
[02:43] <hoechts> escott, ok then i try it ;) good to know i have backups ;)
[02:44] <ULO> I tried 12.10 (full install) the other day dual boot w/ W7 and it ran like ass. My machine can run W7 just fine (everything is snappy and fast) but for some reason 12.10 is meh. Should I go back to 12.04 or should I just install 13.04 as my daily driver (I plan on using it just for fun). Are there any nagging bugs?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> ULO: what video chip do you use?
[02:45] <ULO> ATI 5400
[02:45] <hoechts> escott, thank you! mdadm --assemble --scan now mounted my raid on /dev/md1 - like i wanted ;)   i check what happens after a reboot
[02:46] <ULO> ActionParsnip:  Radeon HD 5450
[02:46] <ULO> 512MB
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> ULO: did you install the proprietary video driver
[02:47] <randimiller> Any suggestions for a linux mmorpg? bored and looking for a new game to play
[02:47] <ULO> ActionParsnip: Yup. Loading programs and switching from programs was really slow too. Logging into Ubuntu (compared to 12.04) was extremely slow.
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> randimiller: http://mmohuts.com/editorials/linux-mmorpgs
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> ULO: tried a different desktop, like xfce?
[02:49] <ULO> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I tried it and it runs a better. I'd like to keep using Unity though :S
[02:50] <fbdystang> ULO: Install android. hehe j/k
[02:50] <Mamo-chan> wee... more kubuntu errors.. It wont allow me to set images i download to desktop background.
[02:50] <Mamo-chan> Any thoughts? :(
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Mamo-chan: asked in #kubuntu
[02:50] <hoechts_> :/ my raid is always starting as /dev/md1 when i reboot although i wrote /dev/md1 in mdadm.con :/
[02:50] <ULO> fbdystang: Already got a Nexus 4 & 7 for that ;)
[02:51] <Mamo-chan> heh.. ok
[02:52] <escott> hoechts_, have you run an update-initramfs?
[02:52] <hoechts_> escott, ill try it
[02:52] <ULO> How is 13.04 running? Any weird experience breaking bugs?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> ULO: is this an upgrade from Precise?
[02:52] <escott> !ubuntu+1 | ULO
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> ULO: #ubuntu+1 for Raring
[02:53] <hoechts_> escott, hmm im not sure what option i should give this command ;) .. -u?
[02:53] <ULO> ActionParsnip: It was a clean install
[02:53] <hoechts_> i dont know initramfs either ;)
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> ULO: works ok here but my hardware is super Linux friendly
[02:53] <escott> hoechts_, i always have to check... -a i think helps
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> ULO: I know the xorg in Quantal hates 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx ATi GPUs and there is a PPA with a fix, may help you
[02:54] <ULO> ActionParsnip: Yikes. I'd like to give the PPA a try :) Where can I find it?
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> ULO: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[02:58] <hoechts> escott, thank you very much - it worked! Now i will kill my old raid. cu
[03:03] <seamus_> There was no BIOS option I could tell was making it buzz. It doesn't seem to matter what I do. I can't get rid of this alert sound. Also, it seems the sound is actually more of a gong.
[03:08] <seamus_> So, I'm getting gong-like alert noises whenever I backspace or scroll too far in a text bar. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on an old Dell Latitude D600. The sound settings dialog doesn't include a terminal bell checkbox or slider of any kind, pcspkr module is not running, AlsaMixer's Beep volume is at 0% and muted, and my BIOS only mentions one keyboard-related beep option, and it is disabled.
[03:08] <halp-pl0x> hello
[03:08] <halp-pl0x> i have a minor problem
[03:08] <halp-pl0x> and can probably be fixed very easily
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: what if you set the sound scheme to none?
[03:09] <seamus_> My sound settings dialog doesn't mention any scheme or theme -like options. Can I do that by terminal?
[03:09] <halp-pl0x> how do i change the network interface "wlan0" to have a static ip? when i edit /etc/../interfaces  and set it up there, terminal tells me it "failed to bring up wlan0"
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: http://toastytech.com/guis/ubuntu10sounds.png   like that
[03:10] <ipank> hello
[03:11] <ipank> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1561522/
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> halp-pl0x: in network manager -> wired tab, click the wired connected and set it to manual
[03:11] <ipank> I can't boot into windows partition
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> halp-pl0x: you will need to set the name servers too
[03:11] <thetinyjesus> Is there a way to get an iphone to sync with ubuntu yet?
[03:12] <thetinyjesus> I noticed in the new ubuntu development video he's wearing the apple headphones so i figured theres a trick to get it to sync
[03:12] <ipank> can anyone help me?
[03:12] <stlu> halp-pl0x: I beleive you need the wpa-supplicant to provide a Passphrase to your wireless router in order to manage the wifi from the command line.
[03:12] <ipank> !grub
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> ipank: what happens when you try to boot WIndows?
[03:12] <ipank> ActionParsnip, no, the windows 7 is not listed
[03:13] <thetinyjesus> do the restore grub link, happened to me as well
[03:13] <seamus_> The sound effects tab contains "Alert Volume", with a slider and on/off switch (set to "off"), and a selector labeled "choose an alert sound" with five options (set to "default").
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> ipank: if you run:   sudo update-grub    do you see Windows mentioned?
[03:13] <seamus_> Nothing else.
[03:13] <stlu> I'm still needing assistance removing Unity in 11.10.  Jrib?
[03:13] <ipank> ActionParsnip, no
[03:13] <ipank> ActionParsnip, it just generic kernell, recovery, and memtest
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> stlu: Oneiric is EOL in April. Is it worth it?
[03:14] <stlu> Yes, because f***ing dell won't use newer versions and I just bought a laptop from them.
[03:14] <seamus_> The other options are "Bark", "Drip", "Glass", and "Sonar".
[03:14] <seamus_> There is no "none".
[03:15] <stlu> Plus, my bet is it will be just as nasty with 12.04 or 12.10.
[03:15] <thetinyjesus> stlu: Samsung is the WORST computer manufacturer in the world
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> stlu: I recommend upgrading to 12.04, it is LTS so supported til April 2017
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: I'd say Acer
[03:15] <stlu> Well if I can't do it here then it wont work in 12.04.  this is apt-get I am fighting with.  http://pastebin.com/2JU2BUtq
[03:15] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: My samsung laptop was purchased in august this year, and they will not support windows 8
[03:16] <ipank> any help?
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> stlu: if you simply install xfce4 or another desktop, you will get a new session to log in at the login screen
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: do you want windows 8?
[03:16] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: no drivers at all, thats why im desperately looking for a way to transfer songs to my iphone
[03:16] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: i thought i did, upgraded and found out no drivers work
[03:16] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: didnt think a brand new laptop with an I7 wouldn't work
[03:16] <stlu> Action-Parsnip: I am perfectly happy using TTY1, all I want is Unity and the crud gone. http://pastebin.com/2JU2BUtq
[03:17] <joseneto> My display driver is not working as a result my computer is really slow, please help
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> stlu: then uninstall xorg and the other apps will fail deps and when you use autoremove it will haul the rest of the stuff off
[03:18] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i know that out of principal, a new laptop should be windows 8 compliant, but do you think you would really need windows 8 over 7? i personally prefer 7, unless you have a touch screen monitor
[03:18] <BillyZane> then again, i have not tried windows 8, maybe it's really cool
[03:18] <seamus_> In fact, my whole desktop doesn't really look like the one in that picture. It is much plainer. Let me put up a screenshot.
[03:18] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: of course i didn't think i needed it but it's always fun to play around with new software and now im stuck and cannot transfer songs to my iphone
[03:19] <halp-pl0x> i have another question, why isnt my computer's ip adress showing up in my routers list? my router is showing that something is there (showing a mac address, but no name or ip adress). and im still able to access the internet from my computer???????
[03:19] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: os in this case
[03:19] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i recommend just sticking with 7 and if you want to try a new OS, try a linux OS if you haven't already, or maybe a BSD flavor
[03:19] <bean> halp-pl0x: have you rebooted your router?
[03:19] <halp-pl0x> yes
[03:19] <BillyZane> oh wait, i'm in #ubuntu, n/m you already have
[03:19] <eamon> what do I do if I forgot my sudo password?
[03:19] <bean> halp-pl0x, then your computer probably has a DHCP lease from before the reboot.
[03:20] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: i have windows 8 and ubuntu partitioned, windows 8 has ruined that partition and the only thing i ever used windows for was for syncing the iphone
[03:20] <halp-pl0x> bean: how to i renew it?
[03:20] <bean> halp-pl0x: it doesn't really need to be in your lease list
[03:20] <joseneto> My display driver is not working as a result my computer is really slow, please help. Acer aspire 5532 ATI Radeon HD3200. HELP!!
[03:20] <halp-pl0x> oh okay
[03:20] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: and i know how time consuming it would be to downgrade to windows 7 without screwing up the linux partition
[03:21] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i wouldnt use 8 even if i could :P
[03:21] <eamon> I forgot my sudo password; what do I do?
[03:21] <halp-pl0x> well also, i recently reinstalled windows on my computer, and it destroyed the grub menu,(it doesnt eve show it) and boots straight to windows. how do i fix that?
[03:21] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: neither would i it sucked for the few minutes it worked
[03:21] <stlu> ActionParsnip: I'll take you up on that.  Don't go anywhere.
[03:21] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: to be fair the week it worked and then suddenly all the drivers went haywire
[03:21] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: wow that sucks
[03:21] <seednode> Not sure what's going on here, but I kinda like Win8
[03:22] <eamon> How do I reset the password?
[03:22] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: im just in disbelief that with 100 million + iphones no one has figured out how to sync them up to ubuntu the most popular distro
[03:22] <kion> eamon: you need to log in with a live disk and reset it from there
[03:23] <bean> halp-pl0x: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:23] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: and as far as i know isn't apple based of unix? idk why it would be so difficult
[03:23] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i'm starting to regret even having an iphone/ipad. there's too much baggage
[03:23] <halp-pl0x> ty bean
[03:23] <eamon> kion, what is the command?
[03:23] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: because unix and linux are free, and apple is slavery
[03:23] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: well after owning an HTC Hero, HTC Evo, Galaxy SII/SIII I've given up with androids
[03:23] <seednode> BillyZane, tell me about it. I just use a dumbphone now
[03:24] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: all the same crap, the battery life is horrible and after a month the phone just simply sucks
[03:24] <BillyZane> the phone slows down to a crawl.
[03:24] <BillyZane> yeah, my ihphone 4 should not be this slow
[03:24] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: are you running ios 6 on it? that is probably why it started to run slow with even ios 5
[03:24] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: what's wrong with androids?
[03:25] <BillyZane> no, i'm running iOS5, i wouldn't dare use 6
[03:25] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: battery life/ running slow after a month
[03:25] <linux_is_my_hero> lets not forget that sometimes poorly programmed apps can kill a phone no matter what os its running
[03:25] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: but if the battery didn't slow, would it be ok?
[03:25] <linux_is_my_hero> *cough* facebook
[03:25] <BillyZane> linux_is_my_hero: i gotta delete some apps then
[03:25] <BillyZane> i have a 32gig iphone with 100mb free space
[03:25] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: not going to lie i just don't like them, even on the SIII the touch screen wasn't as responsive, the apps load slower,
[03:26] <stlu_> ActionParsnip: the good news is 'apt-get remove xorg' isn't trying to install OS/2 or some nonsence.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.
[03:26] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: youtube videos still have difficulty loading on google's own phone and probably the worst part is the fragmentation, everyone has their own software except if you get googles phone
[03:26] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i wish phones were more like PCs. where i can just install my own OS. i heard about that ubuntu OS. that sounds interesting
[03:26] <linux_is_my_hero> billyzane: its not anything you did.  the apps just keep getting bigger no matter what phone you have.  i had to delete some apps too.
[03:26] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: i looked into it, looks awesome obviously right now it's slow if you watch the demo videos but it has potential
[03:27] <XMLnewbi> so I'm failing to get nginx to work. Trying to go back to apache. I did a sudo apt-get install apache2           but there is no folder apache2 in the etc folder now
[03:27] <stlu_> ActionParsnip: now what - "suduo apt-get autoremove" ?
[03:27] <XMLnewbi> I need to figure out how to backup a clean install so I can restore it when I get myself in trouble like this
[03:27] <Keshav> HI guys
[03:28] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: my problem with with owning android phones is unless you choose google's nexus phone or whatever they call it now, don't expect to get their lasted OS for months IF  ever
[03:28] <Keshav> I wanted to install cinamon on ubuntu 12.04 using cli
[03:28] <Keshav> How should I proceed
[03:28] <bean> Keshav what is cinnamon
[03:28] <Keshav> I have the ppa, but not the steps
[03:29] <Keshav> Desktop environment
[03:29] <thetinyjesus> cinnamon is a window manager
[03:29] <Keshav> for ubuntu
[03:29] <Keshav> anybody using it?
[03:29] <thetinyjesus> i am but i'm also running mint 14
[03:29] <spizzo> cinnamon? I'm using it on mint
[03:29] <stlu_> ActionParsnip: nothing is auto-removing >:|
[03:29] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i did install it on ubuntu 12.04 with no problems
[03:30] <eamon> is the sudo password the same as the root password?
[03:30] <spizzo> I'm reading up on apt-get commands and wondering why upgrade exists since the only difference between that and dist-upgrade seems to be smarter dependency resolution.
[03:30] <stlu_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove...
[03:30] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: if you want it sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
[03:30] <thetinyjesus> then sudo apt-get update
[03:31] <spizzo> eamon: root password should be the password for the root account, sudo password should be the one for whichever account you're using.
[03:31] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: followed by sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[03:31] <eamon> spizzo: this is ubuntu, there is no root account…
[03:32] <eamon> So I don't know if that guide will work…
[03:32] <kion> eamon no, it is not the same, but gives you the same potential
[03:32] <eamon> ( http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3457-gentoo-linux-restoring-the-root-password )
[03:32] <stlu_> eamon: sudo gives you the same level of authority *as if* you were root.  Just add sudo before any commands in your tutorial.
[03:33] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: did you have a question on cinnamon or what?
[03:33] <stlu_> Keshav wants a cinnamon install tutorial
[03:33] <Keshav> yea
[03:33] <Keshav> Following your instructions downloading the package :)
[03:33] <eamon> would editing /etc/shadow from a livecd work?
[03:33] <joseneto> I cant install ati Radeon HD3200 on ubuntu 12.10 .Please HELP!!!!
[03:33] <kion> eamon
[03:33] <joseneto> acer aspire 5532 3GB
[03:33] <eamon> kion
[03:34] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: oh :P btw you should like it, been using it for a while with not a single crash yet, the last version had tons of bugs but not this one
[03:34] <kion> Go on a live cd and se the command sudo passwd USER
[03:34] <kion> where user is your lost password user
[03:34] <stlu_> eamon: if you are trying to change the root password then you haven't got it.
[03:34] <Keshav> Okay, never had this repository
[03:34] <stlu_> eamon: you only need your user password in Ubuntu.
[03:34] <Keshav> And is mint 14 a desktop environment or an altogether different OS?
[03:35] <LiThiuME3> should : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58846 -j ACCEPT     forward port and accept connection from the port 58846
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> joseneto: the xorg in quantal hates your gpu
[03:35] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: as far as i know its not different from ubuntu but i could be wrong i never really researched it that much, i think they use different file managers
[03:35] <joseneto> :(
[03:35] <Keshav> I see
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> joseneto: there is a fix
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> joseneto: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[03:35] <Keshav> btw do you type my name each time? Or is there a reply button on right click :|
[03:35] <spizzo> mint is another OS, but it is strongly related to ubuntu
[03:36] <joseneto> ActionParsnip
[03:36] <thetinyjesus> i type Kes and press tab
[03:36] <stlu_> Lithiume3: ACCEPT only allows the connection to your computer.  You need to make further changes to forward it to a second machine.
[03:36] <tonsofpcs> k<tab> = Keshav
[03:36] <joseneto> what do i do?
[03:36] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: for me its probably thet tab
[03:36] <Keshav> hmmm
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> joseneto: read the link I gave, why do you think I went and got it?
[03:36] <Keshav> When I Press tab it shows all the names starting with t
[03:36] <Keshav> Fiddling around
[03:36] <joseneto> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry
[03:36] <Keshav> should get it
[03:36] <joseneto> :0
[03:36] <joseneto> :)
[03:36] <Keshav> tonsofpcs,
[03:36] <Keshav> got it looks like
[03:36] <tonsofpcs> Keshav:
[03:36] <FloodBot1> Keshav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: theti TAB should be enough
[03:37] <LiThiuME3> stlu_ it's on my VPS I have Deluge running with a daemon on the for 58846 I cant connect from my home computer, So if I understand well i need to apply other commands in order to forward the port?
[03:37] <Keshav> yeah
[03:37] <Keshav> thetinyjesus :
[03:37] <Keshav> Phew
[03:37] <tonsofpcs> theti tab should pay for my drinks
[03:37] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, should pay for my drinks
[03:37] <Keshav> what, no, it shows comma after thetinyjesus!
[03:38] <thetinyjesus> lol
[03:38] <thetinyjesus> im broke unless the hartford insurance hires me after our phone interview
[03:38] <Keshav> lol :D
[03:38] <tonsofpcs> thetinyjesus: well, hopefully they hire you.  we need drinks :)
[03:38] <thetinyjesus> :P
[03:39] <pepee> anyone having problems with USB devices in 12.10?
[03:39] <thetinyjesus> tonsofpcs: ever drink some johnny walker blue label ?
[03:39] <tonsofpcs> thetinyjesus: not that I can recall.
[03:39] <stlu_> Lith: no, if you are trying to connect to a service on the same VPS then you only need to accept.  Forward would only be used to go from your VPS, to another VPS for example.
[03:39] <thetinyjesus> tonsofpcs: its friggin amazing
[03:39] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, after following the three commands, cli stopped downloading packages, so guess its time to restart?
[03:39] <nearst> hi all
[03:39] <Keshav> Or should I see the change without restarting the system
[03:39] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: you might be able to just log out and change environment if it doesnt work than yah have to reboot
[03:40] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Okay
[03:40] <tonsofpcs> ever spit 151 into a fire and had it light back close enough to your face that people think you set your eyebrows on fire?
[03:40] <Keshav> lol
[03:40] <LiThiuME3> stlu_ Ok thanks for the answer I guess I was looking at the wrong "solution" for my problem
[03:40] <thetinyjesus> lmao never drank 151
[03:40] <LiThiuME3> Thanks
[03:40] <thetinyjesus> i enjoy whiskey
[03:40] <stlu_> Lith: no problem, I figured that out back when I wanted to make a computer into a router.
[03:41] <LiThiuME3> stlu_ hehehe ^^
[03:41] <stlu_> ActionParsnip!
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> stlu_: ?
[03:42] <thetinyjesus> anyone remember playing ultima online or counter strike 1.6... damn i miss those times
[03:42] <stlu_> I removed xorg your silly suggestion.  How do I automatically get rid of all the higher level dependant packages?
[03:42] <stlu_> "autoremove" does not show any candidates.
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: I remember the early CS betas etc, great times
[03:42] <nearst> cs 1.6
[03:43] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: hell yah dude, never in my life have i went to a LAN party other than once for counter strike tournament best time ever playing a game
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: where the Ts were short sleved versions of the CTs
[03:43] <kewel> which is faster on an old machine running lubuntu, chrome or firefox?
[03:43] <nearst> cs and dota
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: where did cs_industry go :(
[03:44] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: no idea, i wonder if anyone still plays 1.6.. source ruined it
[03:44] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: actually no call of duty ruined it lol.. god damn lag compensation makes me wanna rip my hair out
[03:45] <thetinyjesus> im shooting you im shooting you!! dead.. watch kill cam.. never shot a bullet
[03:45] <stlu_> Action...
[03:47] <thetinyjesus> no way people actually still play counter strike ?? i might have to install steam
[03:48] <Keshav> Ofcourse people play it a lot
[03:48] <Keshav> Well, Cs Go is catching steam right now
[03:48] <joseneto> ActionParsnip can i get corelDraw x6 working in ubuntu 12.10 how about adobe products?
[03:49] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: how's that cinnamon
[03:50] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Well, checking the settings, I do not see any difference in the interface, its weird, something's wrong probably
[03:50] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: do you know if you can play 1.6 with an integrated graphics card on laptop? nvidia 310m
[03:50] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: yeah the interface should be completely different
[03:50] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Ofcourse you can
[03:50] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, No there is no change in interface :o
[03:51] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: damn.. hmm did you reboot too?
[03:51] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, hmmm
[03:51] <joseneto> can i get corelDraw x6 working in ubuntu 12.10 how about adobe products?
[03:52] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: im looking into that, strange someone else said that happened to them and if they login with guest cinnamon looks perfect
[03:52] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Its loaded, maybe I should check, what I was expecting to change
[03:52] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: unity should be gone :P
[03:52] <Keshav> maybe
[03:53] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Trying to login via Guest lets see what happens
[03:53] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: okay
[03:55] <guest-tXq38B> thetinyjesus, looks like I don't know what should change :P
[03:56] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, nothing changed lol
[03:56] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, time to switch to youtube video
[03:56] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm yeah ill watch some too save you some time
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: cinnamon isn't supported here, it may also cause issues as its  3rd party package
[03:57] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: ugh 2nd video exact same way i showed you
[03:58] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, No its ok, I'll try and help myself
[03:58] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: i've gotten it to work perfect on ubuntu
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Keshav: just install xfce4 package and log off, log in to the xfce session
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: its still 3rd party, so there is no real way of knowing it will fly
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: the packages in the official repo are tested and are known to work
[03:59] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: could it have something to do with them switching to nemo file manager?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: no idea, sorry
[04:00] <Keshav> ActionParsnip, you mod?
[04:01] <kion> When I upgraded to 12.10, my google earth was gone!   I downloaded the .deb and when I run it, the software manager says it is of bad quality. Has anyone had this problem?
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> Keshav: mod what?
[04:03] <stlu_> ActionParsnip: I reported your suggestion to a Ubuntu Admin.  I know how to fix that but I don't know how to stop you from being a jerk.
[04:04] <stlu_> Have a nice day
[04:04] <thetinyjesus> lol
[04:05] <lf_> sd
[04:05] <pyro254750> anybody have any experience with internet connectivity issues on the client side of openvpn?
[04:05] <PhatTony> Nothing to fear but fear its self
[04:05] <kion> ActionParsnip: you are not a jerk, actually thanks for all your help and effort that you put in supporting Ubuntu!!!! I am with you,
[04:06] <thetinyjesus> i didnt see actionparsnip say one negative thing
[04:06] <dah81> Hi all, I've tried the forums and searched the zillions of topics on the issue but I am still stuck and wondering if anyone can help me get my NVidia GT 520 working in either 12.04 or 12.10?
[04:07] <kion> dah81: have you tried installing Nvidias Drivers?
[04:08] <dah81> yes, tried nouveau and nvidia proprietary
[04:08] <dah81> from x-swat and from nvidia.com
[04:09] <kion> dah81: it is not complicated, 1st you download the latest driver from Nvidia,      2nd you make it executable,     3rd you switch to a tty ctrl+alt+f1    4th  sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop  5th sudo sh NVIDIA_Driver_Naem
[04:09] <dah81> yup, that's what i tried
[04:09] <kion> dah81 6th you reboot
[04:09] <dr_willis> and hope it worked.
[04:09] <dah81> i get to reboot, and it just loads a blank aubergine coloured screen
[04:10] <kion> strange I usa an NVIDI GTX 260M and it works
[04:10] <dr_willis> tried the nomoseset option?
[04:10] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Bingo!
[04:10] <dah81> yes, nomodeset tried
[04:10] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: got it?
[04:11] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, It worked :D Didn't do that interface change thing at the logon screen, Yeah!
[04:11] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: lol
[04:11] <dah81> as well as various other grub options found on the net and forums
[04:11] <kion> dah81: the same driver has an uninstall option
[04:11] <kion> try uninstalling it
[04:11] <kion> and re installing
[04:11] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: thats the best part, it it doesnt work as planned or you dont like it you just switch back to unity
[04:11] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Thanks a lot mahn :D
[04:11] <kion> dah81: I am guessing
[04:12] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: glad it did, you can customize tons of stuff on it too
[04:12] <Keshav> Yeah, will do that :D
[04:12] <reb_> hi
[04:13] <rdsm> hi
[04:13] <avickery> Need advice on best command line diff tool to integrate with git
[04:13] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, One query, any way to find out the  total memory used by the setup files in File system?
[04:13] <dah81> hmmm, k, I'll try it. If it doesn't work maybe I'll make a forum post detailing what I've tried and my setup and the results so far
[04:13] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, or specifically the drive on which ubuntu is installed
[04:13] <dah81> thanks for your help kion
[04:13] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm, never even looked into that TBH
[04:14] <thetinyjesus> menu-admin-system info
[04:14] <kion> dah81: sorry I dont know more, I have been frustrated with my Nvidia card in the past
[04:14] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: seems to have quite a bit
[04:14] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, hmmm, switched to Ubuntu from Win last week, doesn't look like I'll switch back to Win again except for games
[04:14] <avickery> good boy
[04:15] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i switched linux like 2 years ago, never use windows other than games/ transferring songs to iphone
[04:15] <reb_> i'm having trouble with my CDs.  ubuntu wont read them
[04:15] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, hmm
[04:15] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: do all your torrenting on linux and even use as media server
[04:15] <dr_willis> reb_: what kind of cd
[04:15] <rdsm> After a kernel panic on a Sony Vaio Duo , The keyboard is not responding even on the bios, any one knows if the keyboard on this machine needs a specific driver on the UEFI boot files? The original boot partitions were overwritten by ubuntu during install process.
[04:16] <reb_> normal -R CD
[04:16] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i also made a 3rd partition on mine, one that both windows and linux reads so all my downloads are visible on windows as well
[04:16] <Keshav> Didn't try making this as media server, however as of torrenting, when the net gets dc, the files go corrupt :\
[04:16] <dr_willis> reb_: try mounting them by hand
[04:16] <reb_> it works when i boot up in windows
[04:16] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, yea even I did that
[04:16] <reb_> it just wont read them otherwise
[04:16] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: nice dude, best way to do it
[04:17] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: did you try menu> admin> system info for what you were looking for
[04:17] <Keshav> Oh wait
[04:19] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, No, why, I didn't find system info in admin!
[04:19] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm maybe that's just a mint thing im not sure where that option is for ubuntu, it shows your filesystem and memory usage
[04:19] <kion> How do I get rid of the guest account?
[04:19] <dr_willis> reb_: try mounting them by hand. look for error messages
[04:20] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Okay maybe
[04:20] <reb_> it's kinda hard to make a Linux live CD when it says please insert CD when ever i try to add files
[04:20] <kion> Keshav what info are you looking for?
[04:20] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Any suggestions for torrent files? They go corrupt, sometimes, if the net gets dc
[04:20] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: really even with transmission ?
[04:20] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Yep!~
[04:21] <Keshav> kion system info, that is the memory used by the partition on which ubuntu is installed
[04:21] <dr_willis> reb_:  that made no sence.. add files where?
[04:21] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: does the same thing happen if you close transmission and re open it?
[04:21] <kion> Keshav I am trying to remember the command for that, unfortunately I left my Ubuntu laptop at office
[04:22] <reb_> i want to make a Linux live CD but every time i try putting anything on the CD it says there's nothing there
[04:22] <dr_willis> reb_:  you mean you are trying to  burn an ISO file to a cd?
[04:22] <reb_> yes
[04:22] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Yea, unfortunately it won't do the integrity check either, so I have to re download the torrent everytime and make it read the downloaded files
[04:23] <dr_willis> that wasent what you were asking earlier,
[04:23] <kion> Keshav try fsck -l
[04:23] <kion> on a terminal
[04:23] <dr_willis> reb_:  what burner app are you trying to use
[04:23] <reb_> just the normal file
[04:23] <Keshav> kion, did that, it open settings for repair
[04:23] <dr_willis> just the normal file - tells me nothing.
[04:23] <dr_willis> !burn
[04:24] <Keshav> opened*
[04:24]  * cfhowlett details, people!
[04:24] <reb_> ty
[04:24] <kion> Keshav make shure you give the l as in list option
[04:24] <dr_willis> reb_:  its possible the app is looking for /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd when it should be looking for /dev/sr0
[04:24] <kion> fsck -l
[04:24] <Keshav> oh wait lol
[04:24] <Keshav> I used 1
[04:25] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm wow i never noticed but mine does the same thing
[04:25] <Keshav> kioin It says the file system is mounted, a warning that is, plus it says, if you continue, you will cause sever system damage!
[04:26] <kion> keshav, dont continue!
[04:26] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Moreover there isn't a way to download torrent files and save them to hdd
[04:26] <Keshav> kion yea stopped at that
[04:26] <kion> try man -k partition  for a list of possible commands, I miss my ubuntu laptop
[04:27] <Keshav> kion IT says apropos what?
[04:28] <itsrachelfish> is there any way to make the sensors command continue to output?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> itsrachelfish: could write a little bash command to run, wait then repeat
[04:29] <itsrachelfish> ...why
[04:29] <itsrachelfish> okay how about this
[04:29] <kion> keshav if you type "man -k partition" it should give you a list of commands that have the word partition on their manual pages
[04:29] <itsrachelfish> I want a simple command line temperature monitoring program
[04:30] <itsrachelfish> how can this not exist?
[04:31] <kion> Keshav
[04:31] <kion> Keshav try this sudo fdisk -l
[04:31] <kion> Keshav l as in list!!!
[04:31] <Keshav> kion yea did that
[04:31] <Keshav> kion looks like I got it
[04:32] <kion> ok good!
[04:32] <rdsm> itsrachelfish, sensors
[04:33] <rdsm> itsrachelfish, watch -n 1 sensors
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> itsrachelfish: http://poundcomment.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/ubuntu-cpu-temperature-terminal-prompt/
[04:35] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: try doing this it just fixed my transmission problem
[04:35] <fred-fri> im a dev. i need to open port 25 to test a mail program im making. currently it is closed, e.g if i do telnet localhost 25 i get connection refused
[04:36] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: edit>preferences - click downloading tab
[04:36] <itsrachelfish> rdsm: thank you for the watch -n tip
[04:36] <itsrachelfish> :)
[04:36] <itsrachelfish> that's exactly what I needed
[04:36] <itsrachelfish> #useful
[04:36] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: at bottom incomplete check keep incomplete torrents in: and select whatever folder you want
[04:37] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: start a download wait till it gets to like 5 megs or 10 megs w/e close program
[04:37] <kion> itsrachelfish: I would just cat the /proc file contaning the temperature your are looking
[04:37] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: when you reopen right click the torrent and verify local data
[04:37] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: im assuming it's putting the data in a temp folder thats losing the information or something? not sure
[04:37] <selite> Guys how do I install Sun's Java on Ubuntu? Most methods online fail to install it.
[04:37] <rdsm> fred-fri, sudo nc -l 25
[04:37] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, looks like it
[04:38] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, playing with the settings
[04:38] <kion> k
[04:38] <Daxter> x/ow
[04:38] <Daxter> er wrong app. darnit
[04:38] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: its definitely working for me doing it that way, every time i reopen transmission its paused and i just have to re verify the data and its back to where it was
[04:39] <fred-fri> rdsm: thanks, i ran that and entered my password but now it looks like that terminal froze lol
[04:39] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Okay, checking it
[04:39] <selite> How do I install sun's java?
[04:39] <fred-fri> rdsm: the caret is blinking but i get no new prompt
[04:40] <Daxter> hey i messed up my java install somehow when I tried upgrading to java7 via webupd8's ppa for it. now minecraft won't run (except in a VM) :(. Any ideas?
[04:40] <rdsm> fred-fri, the nc is now listening on port 25 until you close that program , run telnet in other terminal and it will connect
[04:40] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i noticed i loose like 5-10 megs my guess is maybe instead of having corrupt data it backtracks itself a little bit
[04:40] <fred-fri> rdsm: ok
[04:41] <grim4593> I have used gsettings to move my minimize, maximize, and close buttons to the right side of the screen. However, when the window is maximized the buttons jump back to the left. Is there a way to fix this?
[04:41] <fred-fri> rdsm: cool thanks
[04:41] <rdsm> fred-fri, glad to help.
[04:42] <dr_willis> grim4593:  no. since the buttons are part of the global menu stuff. and not part of the window after you  maxamize
[04:42] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: just started DL at 70 megs, stopped at 103 restarted at 84 better than 0 i guess lol
[04:43] <grim4593> I see
[04:44] <rdsm> After a kernel panic on a Sony Vaio Duo , The keyboard is not responding even on the bios, any one knows if the keyboard on this machine needs a specific driver on the UEFI boot files? or is it probably a hardware failure? (are UEFI boot partitions even loaded before the BIOS?) The original boot partitions were overwritten by ubuntu during install process.
[04:45] <soupwell> not sure this is the best place to ask my question; if someone has a better suggestion, please let me know.  I have started a pptp VPN server on my home server. I can connect to it, but I cannot "see" my local machines. I am beginning to suspect that the problem is that the network I am physically in (my hotel wifi) uses the same ip range as my home network (192.168.1.x). In my imperfect understanding of how the routing happens, I am guessing that when I tr
[04:45] <selite> Stupid cunts.
[04:45] <cfhowlett> rdsm, look at re-flashing/restoring your bios ... good luck with that
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !ops|selite,
[04:46] <b1lly> when downloading packages, I always get confused -- is there an easy way to tell which ones I need
[04:46] <b1lly> sometimes it asks for my "architecture" etc, and theres always different versions
[04:47] <cfhowlett> b1lly, use software center
[04:47] <elky> cfhowlett, they quit on their own
[04:47] <cfhowlett> elky, so I see.
[04:47] <cfhowlett> b1lly, "architecture" asks if you're on a 32 or 64 bit machine
[04:47] <Daxter> soupwell: I don't remember why, but if there is a LAN conflict with addys and your VPN, the computer will always try to connect to whoever has the address on the LAN your on, not your VPN
[04:48] <b1lly> cfhowlett: so amd64 is 64 bit and i386 is 32
[04:48] <cfhowlett> b1lly, correct
[04:48] <Daxter> the easy trick is to set your 3rd octet to something that isn't default (eg 192.168.SETTHIS.blah)
[04:48] <rdsm> cfhowlett, I haven't thought about that but if I need to do it I'll take it to technical service tomorrow , sony created that mess machine , I'll let sony handle it... thanks tor the tip anyway :)
[04:49] <soupwell> Daxter: does that mean I'm SOL if I'm on a LAN that conflicts with my VPN? It seems like this would be a common enough problem that there would be a workaround
[04:49] <cfhowlett> rdsm, best of luck.  don't tell them *ubuntu* or they will likely claim a warranty violation
[04:49] <soupwell> ah
[04:49] <soupwell> thanks
[04:49] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, it won't work
[04:49] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: its restarting from 0 for you?
[04:50] <soupwell> argh, I was hoping not to have to restructure the home network
[04:50] <Daxter> soupwell: yes you are SOL till you can get back to your lan and change your addressing. As far as a workaround I dont knwo of any
[04:50] <rdsm> cfhowlett, Oh, I'll delete the partitions before, (their rescue utility already erased one of them for me anyway...) , thanks again.
[04:50] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, No you did not understand, if I would download the torrent again, it would verify the cache, but suppose if a torrent while downloading, the net gets disconnected, then the downloads cannot be started from the same torrent file
[04:50] <soupwell> thanks for the input. I'll see if I can get it done via ssh
[04:51] <Daxter> np
[04:51] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm i'm lost on that one never experienced that
[04:52] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Is there any way to save torrents?
[04:52] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Instead of directly allowing them to open in Transmission or another client?
[04:53] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i cant seem to get magnet links to work on linux to be able to save as
[04:53] <TheLordOfTime> Keshav, right click the link, save target as, <save> ?
[04:53] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: some websites i go to allow that option but like piratebay never has that
[04:53] <thetinyjesus> TheLordOfTime: its grayed out on most sites
[04:53] <TheLordOfTime> thetinyjesus, screenshots or lies, its worked for me for eons
[04:54] <thetinyjesus> TheLordOfTime: okay ill screen shot
[04:55] <dr_willis> greying out the save as? i think theres extensions to get around that. ;)
[04:55] <Keshav> TheLordOfTime, no it won't save :o
[04:56] <Keshav> TheLordOfTime, btw am using firefox
[04:56] <thetinyjesus> TheLordOfTime: is there a reason i cant take a screenshot with right click option open
[04:56] <rdsm> Keshav, there are firefox add-ons to get the .torrent from the magnet, googled here and found one called magrent. but I never used it...
[04:57] <TheLordOfTime> Keshav, there's probably extensions to get around that.  I've never had issues with it, but i don't use piratebay.  for anything.
[04:57] <thetinyjesus> TheLordOfTime: im using chrome and it wont allow me to either
[04:57] <thetinyjesus> and it comes up with this message under the link
[04:57] <thetinyjesus> Problems with magnets links are fixed by upgrading your torrent client!
[04:58] <Keshav> yep it says that, and to go awy with it, it requires to download some another crappy browser
[04:58] <b1lly> I used software center to install xmonad, but I have no idea how to run it or find it now...
[04:58] <Keshav> open dashboard and seach
[04:59] <b1lly> ya its not there
[04:59] <Keshav> Open software center> All softwares Type xmonad in search bar, check if you have it
[04:59] <dr_willis> b1lly:  then why did you install it?
[04:59] <rdsm> b1lly, xmonad is a window manager , after installing it'll show as an option on the login screen, beware that xmonad needs to be configured before use since it works based on shortcuts.
[05:00] <Keshav> rdsm, that helped thanks :)
[05:00] <b1lly> rdsm: ok, great, where can I configure it
[05:00] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i switched to firefox, and i have a 2nd option get torrent file
[05:00] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: which allows me to save as
[05:00] <kaushal> Hi
[05:01] <rdsm> b1lly, ~/.config/xmonad if I am not mistaken , you should google to learn about it , xmonad is not for beginners
[05:01] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: using firefox 18.0.1 but looks to be specific to mint
[05:01] <dr_willis> xmonad is definatly not for beginners
[05:01] <kaushal> Any tool to draw block diagram for example list out servers,switches and routers..?
[05:02] <dr_willis> !info dia
[05:02] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, looks like, earlier there was no option to save it as torrent file
[05:02] <kaushal> dr_willis: ok
[05:02] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, However with magrent as rdsm said it became easy :D
[05:02] <Sgt_Shultz> using xubuntu here, torrent work from firefox flawlessly with delege
[05:02] <Sgt_Shultz> deluge
[05:03] <Keshav> Sgt_Shultz, it was about being able to save torrent files and not opening them directly in deluge
[05:03] <folorn> any idea how to see your ip information etc from the terminal ? i forget
[05:03] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: just found out something weird.. it depends on the torrent file itself i opened that torrent link in chrome and it worked too and tried "the hobbit" and there was no get torrent file option
[05:03] <xubuntu_> Has anyone else had issues with htop displaying certain threads using 100% when idle?
[05:03] <Sgt_Shultz> well firefox saves a copy in downloads, 4 me anyway
[05:03] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Download magrent addon in firefox,
[05:03] <Daxter> Somehow I messed up my java install when I tried upgrading to java7 from java6-openjdk via webupd8's ppa for java7. But now any JAva apps won't run, except in a VM. Any ideas?
[05:04] <pyro254750> folorn: try ifconfig
[05:04] <dr_willis> Daxter:  uninstall them all and reinsrtall the one you  want perhaps.
[05:04] <thetinyjesus> magnet fixer?
[05:04] <dr_willis> Daxter:  check what java you are using also.. java -version
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Daxter: i suggest you contact the ppa maintainer
[05:04] <dr_willis> !java
[05:04] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, magrent
[05:04] <folorn> thanks pyro254750
[05:05] <dr_willis> the webupd8 ppa is just a script  that does what i think the java factoid outlines.
[05:05] <fred-fri> rdsm: so if i telnet i get the output with your command
[05:05] <fred-fri> rdsm: my mail program seems to be able to open a connection to port 25 too, but i dont see any output produced
[05:05] <rdsm> fred-fri, if you telnet you will be sending information for the netcat application.
[05:05] <Daxter> i unistalled java7, but java6 isnt running right. java -version reports the OpenJDK, java 1.6
[05:05] <b1lly> rdsm: any "easier" window manager utilities like xmonad?
[05:06] <fred-fri> rdsm: right, but i actually want my mail program that im developing to connect to it
[05:06] <fred-fri> rdsm: which it does, i just dont get any output
[05:06] <fred-fri> rdsm: even though my mail program is sending stuff there
[05:06] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: yup works new option download .torrent file when right click
[05:06] <nebula> bhu123
[05:06] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: nice one
[05:07] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Say thanks to rdsm  :)
[05:07] <thetinyjesus> rdsm: you rock :D
[05:07] <Keshav> :po
[05:07] <Keshav> :P
[05:07] <rdsm> b1lly, what do you mean like xmonad? what kind of feature are you looking for?
[05:07] <b1lly> something to manage my windows
[05:08] <dr_willis> thats a little vague b1lly
[05:08] <b1lly> I want to be able to snap applications/windows to the left/right side of my screen easily
[05:08] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: did that fix your problem you were having
[05:08] <rdsm> b1lly, gnome...
[05:08] <b1lly> with keyboard shortcuts
[05:08] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Probably it should,
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> BillyZane: compiz has the grid plugin
[05:08] <Daxter> hmm now it seems to work. I don't knwo what to say...
[05:08] <pyro254750> billy, if you are running gnome you can use ctrl+alt+ left and right
[05:08] <pyro254750> compiz also has similar features
[05:08] <b1lly> pyro254750: that just switches my workspace
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> BillyZane: you can assign a shortcut key to it too (i belive)
[05:08] <b1lly> compiz doesnt seem to work on my machine for some reason
[05:08] <b1lly> even though I have it enabled
[05:09] <rdsm> fred-fri, you will receive the output of the connection on the terminal with netcat open , I don't remember eSMTP RFC from my mind, you should read the documentation regarding the protocol or install a smtp server on your machine.
[05:09] <pyro254750> ah you mean to snap the app from space to space?
[05:09] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: thats the benefit of linux always keeps your brain active :P
[05:09] <b1lly> sure
[05:09] <b1lly> yeah
[05:09] <b1lly> so if i had 2 apps open
[05:09] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, :P
[05:09] <b1lly> i can snap one to the leftside taking up 50% and one to the right side taking up 50%
[05:09] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, I just wanted even the games to work :D
[05:10] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, They would work with Wine but fps is comparatively lower as compared to win
[05:10] <rdsm> b1lly,  ctrl+super(windoze key)+ left/right
[05:10] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: sometimes its possible to get certain games to work but its hit or miss and a pain in the ass lol
[05:10] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, yea that is
[05:10] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, true
[05:10] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: theres not a lot of documentation on how to do it either
[05:11] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: like wine will work for a lot of games but the performance kinda sucks at least in my experience
[05:11] <pyro254750> billy: ctrl + alt + num will snap windows to left/right in varying sizes
[05:11] <b1lly> rdsm: the left and right dont work
[05:11] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Yeah, but wine does it flawlessly for some games I tried, Yeah the performance is low
[05:11] <b1lly> rdsm: only up and down (to maximzied)
[05:11] <b1lly> pyro254750: that don't work either
[05:11] <b1lly> I believe those are both "features" of compiz
[05:11] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Nevermind one or two quarters and we will have steam box for linux as well :D
[05:11] <b1lly> and like I said, compiz isn't working properly on my machine
[05:11] <pyro254750> ctrl + alt + num is a unity feature
[05:12] <b1lly> well it doesn't do anything on my machine
[05:12] <thetinyjesus> psh that would be great playing some CS on linux
[05:12] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Then it would be possible to play games on ubunut too :D :P
[05:12] <pyro254750> whatchu talkin bout, its already possible
[05:13] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: with good performance
[05:13] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, That torrent thing works great, now no corrupted files :P
[05:13] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: good deal man
[05:13] <pyro254750> yes, with good performance
[05:13] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: have a guide for it? or is it just wine
[05:13] <pyro254750> its wine, but its not just simply launching with wine. youve gotta play with the settings
[05:14] <rdsm> b1lly, open system preferences , go to keyboard,  shortcuts tab , navigation option , you should be able to it there.
[05:14] <pyro254750> but after a bit of tweaking ive got wow running at 60fps+ on 3 screens
[05:14] <rdsm> *you should be able to set it there.
[05:14] <thetinyjesus> hmm going to have to look into this i wanna play some CS
[05:14] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, you stay in?
[05:15] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: huh?
[05:15] <Keshav> Vinius I meant to ask :)
[05:16] <pyro254750> thetinyjesus, im pretty sure there is a counterstrike port
[05:16] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: looking into it now
[05:16] <b1lly> rdsm: that only allows me to setup controlling workspaces
[05:16] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: i hope so :)
[05:17] <thetinyjesus> would you look at that, 14 hours ago Steam released Ubuntu Beta
[05:17] <pyro254750> I also seem to recall reading somewhere that valve was going to be doing alot with steam and linux, which should mean native for most of their games
[05:17] <thetinyjesus> it just came out for beta :)
[05:18] <dr_willis> the not so beta beta
[05:18] <thetinyjesus> whats that mean lol
[05:18] <pyro254750> probably that its buggy, lol
[05:19] <pyro254750> going to find out soon enough, dling
[05:19] <thetinyjesus> where the hecks the dl link lol
[05:19] <pyro254750> http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[05:19] <pyro254750> click install
[05:19] <thetinyjesus> nvm
[05:20] <thetinyjesus> i really hope its playable
[05:20] <thetinyjesus> it uses your normal steam account im assuming ?
[05:20] <pyro254750> yeah
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> going to have to get a new one its been like 8 years since i played CS
[05:21] <keshav_> thetinyjesus, Do you play kz?
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> keshav_: naw only played CS from steam
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> or you mean kill zone
[05:21] <keshav_> thetinyjesus, Kz = kreedz mod in CS, wonder you don't know it :o Bhop and climbing maps?
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: Urban terror is a lot like couter strike, plus it has wall jumping :)
[05:22] <thetinyjesus> keshav_: naw man never played those damn i cant wait and is urban terror free?
[05:22] <rdsm> b1lly, sorry , you're right. my mistake, have you tried Ctrl + (Win key) + left or right , and it didn't worked?
[05:23] <pyro254750> it looks like they want you to pay for games again for linux version
[05:23] <rdsm> b1lly,  Are you using unity? what application are you trying to do it?
[05:23] <b1lly> rdsm: yeah, yeah
[05:23] <b1lly> well, any (even chrome)
[05:23] <rdsm> b1lly, ubuntu 12.10?
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: really dan
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> damn
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: that kreedz mod looks like the jump levels from UT
[05:24] <keshav_> Btw anybody tried using any cleaning software? Like ccleaner for windows, does anything exist on similar terms for 12.04?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: bleachbit
[05:24] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, maybe, never played UT
[05:24] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> mines still updating steam
[05:24] <pyro254750> yeah, all the games I have purchased on my account dont come up, but when i search for them they are "linux games" and they want like 20 bucks a peice for them, lol
[05:25] <pyro254750> I guess no native halflife on linux right now
[05:25] <thetinyjesus> jesus
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> pyro254750: it runs excellently in Wine
[05:25] <thetinyjesus> the games still cost 20 bucks?
[05:25] <keshav_> pyro254750, yep use wine!
[05:25] <b1lly> rdsm: i'm trying to use compiz to do any of the effects, but unfortunately not of them work
[05:25] <kewel> how to change lubuntu menu items to run chrome with flags? much thx
[05:25] <pyro254750> sounds good to me
[05:25] <dr_willis> hmm. my games showed a few weeks ago
[05:25] <rdsm> b1lly, oh you are using compiz?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: I recommend you make a copy of the file that launches it in /usr/share/applications   and then open it in gedit. You can then make your own options and so forth
[05:26] <b1lly> rdsm: I tried to use it, but it doesn't work for me
[05:26] <rubiconjosh> I remember reading you may have to pay for the same game for each operating system due to development costs for the porting
[05:26] <b1lly> rdsm: nothing compiz related seems to work
[05:26] <rdsm> b1lly, are you on ubuntu 12.10?
[05:26] <b1lly> yeah, the latest
[05:26] <dr_willis> kewel: find the chrome.desktop file copy it. customize it
[05:27] <kewel> dr_willis: sweet thanks!
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop /usr/share/applications/my-google-chrome.desktop; gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/my-google-chrome.desktop
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: ^
[05:27] <pyro254750> oh wait I see. when I search for it, it shows a price, but if you click on it then it tells you that you own it
[05:27] <rdsm> b1lly, hold down the super key , and see if a keyboard shortcuts list appear.
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: sorry, wrong target
[05:27] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, Trying to understand
[05:27] <thetinyjesus> so everything is universal ?
[05:28] <rdsm> b1lly, the one you're looking for is supposed to be in the lower right of that list.
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> kewel ^   sorry
[05:28] <thetinyjesus> im willing to buy CS for linux but wanna make sure i can play on windows if it doesnt work
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> its been a long night
[05:28] <b1lly> i dont see keyboard shortcuts
[05:28] <b1lly> the super key is the "windows" key correct?
[05:28] <thetinyjesus> i lost all my old information
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: yes
[05:29] <rubiconjosh> billy: did you hold the super key for at least three seconds?
[05:29] <rdsm> b1lly, exactly , you should hold it for a few seconds.
[05:29] <b1lly> ya
[05:29] <b1lly> nothing shows up
[05:29] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, how do I fine the file that launches it :|
[05:29] <b1lly> the only thing that shows up are numbers and stuff
[05:29] <b1lly> on my icons to the left
[05:29] <b1lly> aka my toolbar or w/e
[05:29] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, actually new to Ubuntu, installed it jsut a week ago
[05:29] <kewel> actionparsnip: cool .. checking it out ...
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: I just gave you it. run the command in terminal
[05:30] <rdsm> b1lly, I guess these features are from compiz, unity uses it asbackend.
[05:30] <b1lly> yeah, but compiz doesn't work for me
[05:31] <b1lly> I can configure the settings
[05:31] <b1lly> but nothing I choose in it actually has any effecty
[05:31] <rdsm> have you restarted the graphical interface?
[05:31] <pyro254750> rdsm, i had those features on my laptop prior to compiz install, im pretty sure its a unity thing
[05:31] <keshav_> sudo cp /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop /usr/share/applications/my-google-chrome.desktop; gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/my-google-chrome.desktop
[05:31] <keshav_> what will the above command do? Is it one? Or any colons that differ it into two commands ActionParsnip
[05:32] <pyro254750> also, some apps will not allow the shortcut popup to come up, its best to click on the desktop and THEN hold down the super key
[05:32] <OptimizedCoder> In gdb, how do I redirect the o/p of a certain gdb command to a file (instead of stdout)?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: yes its all one, you can then edit the Exec= line as you wish, and the Display Name line, so that it appears differently in the menus
[05:33] <rdsm> pyro254750, ohh yeah, that's is true , you should try it b1lly. also have you tried restarting the graphical interface after config with compiz?
[05:33] <b1lly> rdsm: how do I do that
[05:34] <b1lly> rdsm: and yeah, I think I have video card issues or compiz is conflicting withs omething
[05:34] <rdsm> pyro254750, ctrl + alt + backspace still works?
[05:34] <b1lly> rdsm: is there anyway to check if compiz is working properly
[05:34] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, it opened two documents in gedit, thats it
[05:34] <rdsm> b1lly, compiz is not my strong point , maybe pyro254750 can help you better.
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: it should only open one. the desktop file is what manages the menu items. you can then edit it as you wish. You need to make a copy or the updates will overwrite your efforts
[05:35] <pyro254750> rdsm, yes ctrl + alt + backspace works, but you have to enable it in keyboard layout options
[05:36] <b1lly> ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt do anything for me
[05:37] <kewel> cool it werked.
[05:37] <thetinyjesus> omfg i think i just found my old steam account
[05:37] <pyro254750> rdsm, you can also use sudo restart lightdm
[05:37] <rdsm> b1lly, sorry man I suggest asking on the channel I am not the best one to help with it , but certainly gnome fits your needs.
[05:38] <rdsm> b1lly, I suggest trying this command last informed by pyro254750
[05:38] <XMLnewbi> so I accedently edited my original default nginx config file.             I keep reinstalling nginx with sudo apt-get uninstall but files dont change back
[05:38] <b1lly> ;/
[05:39] <kewel> ß
[05:39] <rdsm> b1lly, sorry dude I am not god. :))
[05:39]  * kewel found the character map
[05:39] <b1lly> no doubt, thanks for effort
[05:39] <thetinyjesus> whattt counter-strike not available for linux steam??
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: run:  killall -u $USER    and it will do the same
[05:39] <rubiconjosh> billy: I missed what your problem is. Compiz settings are not doing anything?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: i'd ask in the channel for the app
[05:40] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: what you mean?
[05:40] <pyro254750> billy, you should be able to get compiz settings up with ccsm
[05:40] <rdsm> rubiconjosh, shortcuts ctrl+super+left/right are not half-maximizing the app and holding super is not showing the shortcuts.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: well, this is the channel for ubuntu, is there a channel for steam?
[05:40] <Avinash> hi
[05:41] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: not sure theres a bunch of us figuring it out in here
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> pyro254750: ccsm is known to cause issues
[05:41] <keshav_> thetinyjesus, No there isn't one for linux
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[05:41] <keshav_> thetinyjesus, That's why people suggested wine here
[05:41] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: is it allowing you to install CS?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: try in  #ubuntu-steam
[05:42] <thetinyjesus> keshav_: im about to try wine
[05:42] <thetinyjesus> keshav_: soo excited i found my old CS account
[05:42] <pyro254750> thetinyjesus: no, so far the only one I can find thats linux compatible is TF2
[05:42] <keshav_> yea do that, the performance decreases is only 5-10%
[05:42] <Avinash> tnx
[05:42] <rubiconjosh> billy: What graphics card do you have?
[05:42] <keshav_> hi Avinash
[05:43] <Avinash> hi
[05:43] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, purge instead of uninstall will remove everything including the config files, but I guess that it's easier to find the default config file on google...
[05:44] <Ben64> How can I tell which DNS servers a system is currently using? (12.04)
[05:44] <b1lly> pyro254750: ccsm?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: nslookup bbc.co.uk     may show it
[05:44] <Nach0z> check /etc/resolv.conf
[05:44] <Nach0z> may or may not have a nameserver listed
[05:44] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: any tips on using wine for steam?
[05:44] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, just installed nginx here, I can send you the default .conf at pvt if you want.
[05:44] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: nice, thanks
[05:45] <pyro254750> billy: ccsm is the compiz config settings manager. I personally havent had any issues with it, but actionparsnip indicated that it is known to cause issues
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: why wine for steam, there is a native app
[05:45] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: counter-strike isn't part of the native app
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> pyro254750: Billy: there is a warning now when you first use it
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: i see
[05:46] <Ben64> thetinyjesus: steam works really well on wine, i never had a problem with it
[05:46] <pyro254750> thetinyjesus: counterstrike should be capable of running independant of steam direct from the .exe. If i were going to try it with wine, thats how I would do it
[05:46] <XMLnewbi> sure just pastebin it plz
[05:46] <keshav_> Ben64, +1
[05:46] <njd001> i have a stupid user question if i download ubuntu 12.10 desktop will it contain ubuntu liveCD ?
[05:46] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, include my nickname when talking to me , otherwise it's hard to see your answer.
[05:47] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, What graphics card or graphics chipset do you have?
[05:47] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, just a sec, I'm on a fresh install here, no plugin at vim to pastebin.
[05:47] <pyro254750> njd001: the 12.04 cd has an option to boot as a live cd, the 12.10 should as well
[05:47] <njd001> excellent
[05:47] <b1lly> well, I have an nvidia graphics card
[05:47] <b1lly> but I couldn't get it to work properly
[05:47] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  Which one and which driver?
[05:47] <njd001> my friend here at work said i can use clonentfs to clone the local disk image of the physical disk
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: pyro254750 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/should-ccsm-be-purged-from-the-ubuntu-repos :)
[05:47] <b1lly> so I think it's using the onboard graphics
[05:48] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, I have a gtx760 that worked before and after I installed the latest nvidia driver
[05:48]  * njd001 wants to make the corporate image his vm within ubuntu 12.10 :) as i had asked earlier apparently clonentfs will do this :D
[05:48] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1561761/
[05:48] <b1lly> rubiconjosh: I tried installing latest drivers and it gave me a lot of trouble
[05:48] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  If you launch the details program and look under graphics what does it say?
[05:48] <njd001> not sure if you guys use a knowledge bot but thats a good one to add clonentfs
[05:49] <b1lly> rubiconjosh: Driver
[05:49] <b1lly> rubiconjosh: Experience: Standard
[05:49] <jeeves_moss> how can I import the e-mail folder files from my dovecot server back into thunderbird so I can push them to my exchange server?
[05:49] <pyro254750> actionparsnip: very intersting, I guess I havent flipped the self destruct switch yet, lol
[05:49] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, which nvidia card do you have? and what onboard graphics chipset?
[05:49] <njd001> pyro254750 one other good point to ask this laptop im installing on has both nvidia and intel video cards (independent) which one should i make ubuntu 12.10 use?
[05:49] <cloudgeek> i am running a program from shell in python ,triangle.py ,i write it in vim and also make it executable but it is giving wrong answer ,but on a online compiler it's giving correct answer! so help me
[05:49] <b1lly> I think a geforce gt 435m or 420m
[05:50] <b1lly> one of the
[05:50] <b1lly> i think its the 420
[05:50] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, lspci | grep VGA
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: i'd ask in #python
[05:51] <pyro254750> njd001: while im no expert, I suspect that the nvidia will require a proprietary driver installed while the intel will not. If you dont plan to do much 3d rendering (gaming), then I would let ubuntu pick what it wants. otherwise, id use the nvidia.
[05:51] <b1lly> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[05:51] <b1lly> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0df1 (rev a1)
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: is the system a laptop?
[05:52] <njd001> pyro254750 its a work laptop and im not much of a gamer ;-)
[05:52] <b1lly> yeah
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: oh then you want bumblebee
[05:52] <njd001> but great insight thanks!
[05:52] <rubiconjosh> Oh, you have the optimus setup
[05:52] <zykotick9> b1lly: do did need to use lspci -v to get both cards to output like that right?
[05:52] <b1lly> rubiconjosh: yeah, I remeber reading about that somewhere
[05:52] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, I have never configured that, the m at the end of the card name should have tipped me off
[05:52] <pyro254750> njd001: in that case I would just let ubuntu pick its own drivers. Either card should have more than enough for what you are doing. I have an older laptop running with compiz, and its very smooth, all using built in ubuntu drivers
[05:52] <njd001> pyro254750: I have a thinkpad T430
[05:52] <thetinyjesus> so far so good steam seems to be installing cs through wine perfect
[05:52] <b1lly> zykotick9: no
[05:53] <zykotick9> b1lly: interesting, thanks.
[05:53] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: what is bumblebee
[05:53] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, sorry I do not know anything about the optimus setup other than installing the regular nvidia driver will not work and will probably cause X to not run
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: its a project to accomodate switchable GPUs using nvidia (aka Optimus)
[05:54] <b1lly> is it on software center?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> !optimus
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> !bumblebee
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[05:55] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: can i use the above /env/python like same
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: I don't code python, sorry
[05:55] <MichaelP> What is better for a live usb stick ext2 or fat32 ?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> MichaelP: fat32 is advised in the guides
[05:56] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: ok, installing
[05:56] <MichaelP> ActionParsnip, okthanks
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: bumblebee is far from perfect
[05:56] <dr_willis> MichaelP:  the live tools will normally wan tto use fat*
[05:57] <rdsm> cloudgeek, if your script is running but the result output is wrong probably your code is wrong , check if the indent correct, but here is not the best place to ask.
[05:59] <kewel> well peeps, I got my PIII 1GHz 512MB up and running with lubuntu 12.04 .. had to use an old version of flashplugin, but it can youtube and run libreoffice ..
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> kewel: awesome
[06:00] <kewel> =)
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> kewel: I'd use minitube for youtube, its less taxing on the CPU
[06:00]  * rdsm remembers when p4 came out and p3 was better.
[06:01] <kewel> actionparsnip: cool.  I'll look into it
[06:01] <kewel> how do I get ubuntu 10.04 off of sda1?
[06:02] <kewel> delete the partition and then stretch this one?
[06:02] <rubiconjosh> kewel: before you delete a partition to remove linux make sure your boot loader is not getting its config file from that partition
[06:02] <b1lly> bumblebee great sucess
[06:02] <b1lly> thanks alo0t
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> kewel: its an option, you may have to rejig Grub if it uses the partition to store the configs
[06:03] <b1lly> OS runs really slow but
[06:03] <rdsm> b1lly, hooray!
[06:03] <b1lly> it worked lol
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: use:  optirun firefox     to make the app use the nvidia gpu and not the Intel one
[06:03] <kewel> rubiconjosh: thx
[06:03] <kewel> actionparsnip: thx
[06:03] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: how do I do that
[06:03] <b1lly> in terminal?
[06:04] <xrs> i deleted a 3 GB folder to free up some space (deleted as root) its not in the trash and i didnt get that space back. how do i get rid of that 3GB folder i dont want / where did it go?
[06:06] <kepler> xrs, how did you delete it as root?
[06:06] <rubiconjosh> xrs: what folder did you delete and how did you delete it?
[06:06] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: ?
[06:06] <vhadil> hy
[06:06] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  I am pretty sure he meant type that into a terminal to force that application to use your nvidia graphics card
[06:07] <b1lly> oh
[06:07] <b1lly> so I have to type that into terminal every time I want to launch an application
[06:07] <b1lly> ?
[06:07] <vhadil> on ubuntu 12.04 i'l instal squid, but squid3 installed no squid2, why
[06:07] <xrs> sudo sudo thunar, navigated to /media/$myuser/$USBdisk/media/$user/USBdisk/ right clicked on the folder i wanted gone and selected delete. (its from a diff comp that ran out of space and wouldnt boot so i slapped it into this computer to delete some files)
[06:07] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  No
[06:08] <xrs> vhadil,  install manually specifying the version you want with apt-get (ensure backports are enabled in software sources)
[06:08] <vhadil> xrs, how to , im beginner
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: yes, or ALT+F2
[06:09] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  Read about half way down, https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/FAQ
[06:09] <jcxl> has anyone ever suffered from the terrible infamous affliction of kidney stones
[06:10] <skp1> your mom has
[06:10] <kewel> yes
[06:10] <xrs> vhadil,  launcher menu -> settings -> Software Sources -> Updates  -> Backports checked. then ->open konsole / terminal -> type "sudo apt-get install squid2"
[06:10] <kewel> drink lots of water and alcohol as needed for fun
[06:10]  * njd001 wonders how thats relavant in #ubuntu
[06:10] <Keshav> +1
[06:11] <rdsm> jcxl, watch -n 3600 /drink/water
[06:11] <IdleOne> !ot
[06:11] <jcxl> kewel i've had what i thought was organ pain for the last 4 months to the point where i could barely shower or shave, had soo many tests done even a colonoscopy and endoscopy because they thought it was gi problems based on where the pain was,  i had my kidneys ultrasounded etc. and 3 ctscans.. all was fine...  then last night i got them ultrasounded again and they found a 4mm kidney stone in
[06:11] <b1lly> is it odd that my brightness only controls the window im targetting? :O
[06:11] <jcxl> my ureter
[06:11] <xrs> IdleOne,  do you know how i can free up that 3GB?
[06:11] <jcxl> sooo relieved.. i thought i was going to be stuck in mystery pain for life
[06:12] <jcxl> thing is i've had it for so long, i don't think its going to pass on its own
[06:12] <IdleOne> xrs: no idea
[06:12] <kewel> jcxl: ya they're not cool .. and depending on where the get stuck, it can be like labor pains or gettting kick in the groin by a mule
[06:12] <xrs> kepler, rubiconjosh, I did:  sudo sudo thunar, navigated to /media/$myuser/$USBdisk/media/$user/USBdisk/ right clicked on the folder i wanted gone and selected delete. (its from a diff comp that ran out of space and wouldnt boot so i slapped it into this computer to delete some files)
[06:12] <jcxl> sorry
[06:13] <rubiconjosh> xrs: Is that USB disk a linux partition? I honestly do not know a lot about it, but the trash may not work with NTFS or FAT, again I do not really know about it
[06:13] <xrs> what happens when you delete a folder as root?
[06:13] <IdleOne> kewel: This is Ubuntu support, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[06:13] <kepler> xrs, did you check in root's home dir trash?
[06:13] <xrs> i dont have hard drives, i run my computers from USB sticks formatted as EXT2
[06:13] <kewel> jcxl: sound elementary, but I should say -- drink a lot of water, as it gives the dissolved solids less chance to rock up together
[06:14] <kewel> jcxl: and if one is stuck, drink lots of water to push it out, and take antiinflamitories as the ureter will clamp onto the stone
[06:14] <IdleOne> kewel: This is Ubuntu support, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[06:15] <xrs>  /root is empty on both computers (viewing as root with thunar)
[06:15] <rubiconjosh> xrs: anything in /root/.local/share/Trash ?
[06:15] <xrs> ah maybe i didnt show hidden files
[06:15] <Keshav> How to remove joined and quit messages so that the chatbox looks clean ?
[06:15] <rubiconjosh> xrs, ls -a
[06:15] <rdsm> Ubuntu , better than medicare! lol.
[06:15] <jcxl> kewel i msged you,  do you mind?
[06:16] <jcxl> just trying to find somone who has went through it,  google tends to scare me
[06:16] <kairos> Ubuntu is saying my open wifi network has a pssword, but it no longer does. Is this a common problem?
[06:16] <xrs> Keshav,  in my xchat i right click on the room name -> settings -> hide join / part
[06:16] <rdsm> kairos, changed the config recently?
[06:16] <kairos> rdsm: Of the network? Yes.
[06:17] <rdsm> Keshav, /clear
[06:17] <xrs> kairos,  right click on the wifi signal -> edit -> delete the entry for that router
[06:17] <kairos> Thanks, xrs. I'll try it.
[06:18] <Keshav> Thanks xrs looks like it worked
[06:18] <pratik_> hey guyz i having some issue with ubuntu 12.10
[06:18] <pratik_> everytime i got a error and saying i need to report the problem
[06:18] <pratik_> i send report manytime
[06:18] <pratik_> still having same issue :(
[06:18] <xrs> what application?
[06:18] <pratik_> any help appriciate
[06:18] <pratik_> :)
[06:18] <kepler> what is the issue?
[06:19] <xrs> what application does it say is crashing?
[06:19] <kairos> xrs: That didn't work.
[06:19] <rubiconjosh> xrs, Find you files taking up space?
[06:19] <xrs> reboot
[06:19] <xrs> rubiconjosh,  /root/.share is empty
[06:19] <kairos> xrs: Yeah, that was what I was trying to avoid. Oh well. Thanks for the help. :)
[06:19] <rubiconjosh> xrs, was there a /root/.local ?
[06:19] <rdsm> pratik_, what is the issue and the application?
[06:20] <xrs> rubiconjosh,  yes /root/.share/ is there but nothing is in it
[06:20] <pratik_> i dont know which application is causing the issue
[06:20] <pratik_> rdsm: but i am getting this error everytime
[06:21] <rdsm> pratik_, when is the warning appearing , what is open when it happens , is anything happening right before the error notice appears?
[06:21] <xrs> click more details and post a screenshot of what the bottom says (make sure you click the triangles to show hidden stuff)
[06:21] <rdsm> pratik_, also do you execute any action before the error notice appears.
[06:21] <pratik_> rdsm: nope, its happening anytime, everytime
[06:21] <pratik_> on startup
[06:21] <rdsm> pratik_, also do what xrs said.
[06:21] <pratik_> on running firefox
[06:21] <pratik_> or even on other times
[06:22] <rdsm> pratik_, do what xrs said.
[06:23] <pratik_> ok be right back
[06:23] <TeckyJ> exit
[06:23] <TeckyJ> sorry
[06:24] <Keshav> Anybody using Cinnamon here?
[06:24] <inverse> what's cinnamon?
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> Keshav: ask in the mint channel
[06:24] <Keshav> Desktop environment
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Keshav: cinnamon isnt supported here
[06:25] <Keshav> !alis
[06:25] <rubiconjosh> Anyone know a website to view info pages online?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> !mint | Keshav
[06:25] <xrs> rubiconjosh,  i found the deleted stuff in: /media/xrs/302af7b6-9096-4626-9a49-293ba71e18c2/.Trash-0/files   now how do i actually delete it?
[06:26] <rubiconjosh> xrs, the same as you did before, since it is in a .Trash it should actually be deleted this time
[06:26] <kepler> rm -fr  /media/xrs/302af7b6-9096-4626-9a49-293ba71e18c2/.Trash-0/<files>
[06:26] <xrs> well i still only have 88Kb free on the drive
[06:26] <ghinhismajesty> Rubiconjosh: Like man pages?
[06:27] <Keshav> !mint
[06:27] <rubiconjosh> ghinhismajesty, Yes, I can find man pages online easily, I was hoping to find a repository online for info pages
[06:27] <kepler> !kubuntu
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> rubiconjosh: duckduckgo has a !man bang too :)
[06:28] <rubiconjosh> xrs, How are you calculating the free space on the drive?
[06:28] <xrs> thunar
[06:29] <rubiconjosh> xrs, Does df concur?
[06:29] <xrs> gparted agrees with thunar
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> xrs: run:   df -h
[06:30] <rubiconjosh> ActionParsnip, thank you I have never used that. !info does not work as I hoped though.
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> rubiconjosh: also try:  !ppa firefox     :)
[06:30] <xrs> df says theres 900MB free (the "deleted" folder was 3GB)
[06:31] <rubiconjosh> ActionParsnip, thank you, I may switch to duckduckgo and figure out its extras
[06:31] <carl1> xubuntu recognizes the unused space on hard drive as dec and pen drive dec
[06:32] <xrs> this is ubuntu studio trying to delete files off a xubuntu hard drive
[06:32] <carl1> now my pen drive is format in dos/need a way to format and get it to recognize as dec or vice versa
[06:34] <carl1> take it this isn't really a help group.
[06:34] <xrs> i dont know what your asking for
[06:34] <xrs> over my head
[06:35] <carl1> i used to use eugene geeks but haven't seen a geek on there in a long time.
[06:35] <xrs> what is dec
[06:35] <majnoon> carl1, fdisk or gparted (or equivalents) SHOULD work
[06:35] <xrs> digital computer corp?
[06:35] <carl1> what the pen drive as recognized by xubuntu
[06:35] <xrs> digital equipment corp*
[06:35] <rubiconjosh> xrs, You could try du, dont run it with no arguments though... just learned what that does
[06:35] <carl1> dec the opposite
[06:36] <xrs> what is dec?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> xrs: i was thinking the same
[06:36] <carl1> it is a label placed upon a drive
[06:36] <xrs> gparted, dont use labels
[06:36] <carl1> like c drive
[06:37] <carl1> yes it kind of does
[06:37] <carl1> unetbooten certainly does
[06:37] <carl1> and so does xubuntu or any other linux
[06:37] <xrs> gparted will format it. dont use labels, i have trouble when i try changing the volume name
[06:37] <carl1> no it won't
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> carl1: so what is the issue, you cannot mount the partition?
[06:37] <carl1> it formatted by default as dos
[06:38] <xrs> yes lets get down to what are you relly here for? whats the error / root cause
[06:38] <carl1> couldn't make it format anoither way
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> carl1: when you last unplugged it, did you safely remove it in software before physically removing it
[06:38] <carl1> unetbooten would identify my hard drive as the only acceptable drive to load an iso onto.
[06:39] <carl1> its ok I am tired after a long day of virus battle and trying to work xubuntu.
[06:39] <antonio__> I'm trying to upgrade to 10.10 and I get a "fetching the upgrade failed. there might be a network problem"...yet I have an internet connection..what gives?
[06:39] <carl1> forget it I will get sleep and try again
[06:40] <carl1> probably have to go find a windows computer so it will do what I tell it to.
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: i'd use the alternate maverick ISO and upgrade that way. Why not upgrade to Precise directly. LTS to LTS upgrades are very supported
[06:40] <antonio__> how can I upgrade to it directly?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | antonio__
[06:41] <xrs> thanks everyone!
[06:41] <antonio__> Can I upgrade all the way to the current version?
[06:41] <carl1> If I could just load precise puppy on my flash I'd be ok but now I am stuck with a dos pen drive that linux won't recognize.
[06:41] <rubiconjosh> See you guys later
[06:41] <rdsm> rubiconjosh, cya.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: you'd need to upgrade to Precise first, then to Quantal
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: or you could do a clean install
[06:43] <antonio__> which version is precise?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: 12.04 LTS
[06:44] <antonio__> I'm still lost on how to upgrade to precise
[06:46] <tripelb> antonio__: whats your preaent veraion?
[06:46] <tripelb> present
[06:47] <antonio__> 10.04
[06:47] <ampalaya> hello
[06:47] <antonio__> aloha
[06:48] <tripelb> antonio__: basically you cant. you will need to back up and reinstall. but.make sure you get another opinion. there could.be something.i dont k ow.about
[06:52] <antonio__> how can I tell if my machine is 386 or 64?
[06:53] <ketan985> just type uname -a in terminal
[06:53] <antonio__> 686 is 64 bit, right?
[06:53] <tripelb> my friends. i have now deleted my extra partitions and will create new ones. it took 2 patient days to get an answer here but it was nowhere on tje foir how to repartion webpages, askubumtu (sic) and ubuntuforums and linuxbsdos and howtoplaza. Whew. -- now I have 22963 of space and 1G of RAM
[06:53] <SwedeMike> antonio__: no.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: thats the arch of the kernel, won't necessarily match the cpu :)
[06:54] <antonio__> how can I tell what my cpu is?
[06:54] <SwedeMike> antonio__: x86_64 means it's a 64bit kernel
[06:54] <SwedeMike> antonio__: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:54] <aeon-ltd> is there any problem in having / as ext2 and /home as ext4?
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: cat /proc/cpuinof | grep -i model    then use the web to find out
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: none at all :)
[06:54] <tripelb> so i shold make 2 G of swap amd the rest /  ... AmIRite?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: ext2 has no journal, so sudden power offs will be a bit scary
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> ActionParsnip: thanks, what about performance or errors? is journaling worth reinstalling / for?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: yes, you have less than 2Gb RAM so double RAM as swap is good
[06:55] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: can home be ntfa? i have been.wondering.that.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: you can add a journal to ext2 to make it into ext3
[06:56] <tripelb> ok. wow am happy ActionParsnip
[06:56] <antonio__> swedemike: this is the pastebin I got from that process
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: no, but you can have a small (2Gb) /home partition then store casual data like images and music etc on the NTFS
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: you can then symlink to the ntfs for easy access
[06:57] <antonio__> I think its 64 bit, not sure though
[06:57] <ActionParsnip>  antonio__: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i model
[06:57] <antonio__> does Instruction Set - 64bit mean my processor is 64 bit
[06:57] <antonio__> tried that actionparsnip:
[06:58] <antonio__> cat: /proc/cpuinof: No such file or directory
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: yes that's why I tweaked it
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: bit of a typo
[06:58] <antonio__> ah ;)
[06:59] <antonio__> This is my processor http://ark.intel.com/products/42925/Intel-Pentium-Processor-T4500-1M-Cache-2_30-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[06:59] <antonio__> when it says instruction set - 64 bit..does that mean its 64 bit?
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: yes, its 64bit
[06:59] <antonio__> ok thanks...
[07:00] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: in partitioner. now installing 9.04 --  ok.to use ext4 ? ahould i check Format.the.partition?  id so.why? if not why?
[07:01] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: once.installed, praxtice
[07:01] <crazybrain> How to format SD card using Ubuntu 12.10
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: use gparted
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: installing 9.04?  ...as in Ubuntu Jaunty?
[07:01] <tripelb>  i will want to.get the lubuntu off.my nexus 7
[07:02] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: yep
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: its not supported anymore
[07:02] <tripelb>  i lost track.of my 12.04 disk. and my 11
[07:03] <antonio__> is there any kind of command I can run that will compile a list of the software I have already installed? to make it easier to re-install everything?
[07:03] <tripelb>  i lost track.of my 12.04 disk. and my 11.04 disk says "hardware cannot do unity" then boots gnome and displays wrong.
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> !clone | antonio__
[07:04] <crazybrain> How to format mobile sd card?
[07:05] <antonio__> brilliant!
[07:05] <crazybrain> i am using Ubuntu 12.10
[07:05] <crazybrain> THere is no option of formatting
[07:06] <crazybrain> someone help me
[07:06] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: i do not care of unsupported. if i install it properlyy grub will recover and then i can get to the qindows partition and thwn i can get lubuntu 12.04 off of the nexus and burn me a morw better liveCD. anyway that is mt plan
[07:07] <tripelb> !ask | crazybrain
[07:07] <foo357> Hello, I've got a computer running 12.04 LTS, usb sticks seem to get mounted with noexec and whatnot... the permissions are something like Xrwx------ how can I change this?
[07:07] <crazybrain> How to format mobile sd card through Ubuntu 12.10??