[04:43] <TimothyA> I suggest just using ext2 and using something in windows to read that ;>_>
[04:43] <Some_Person> Capt_Blackwood: You can write to NTFS on Mac OS X with MacFuse and some NTFS-3G thingy for it
[04:43] <Capt_Blackwood> Can Macs see EXT2?
[04:43] <David-A> hmw: there are a lot of recovery programs in the repositories, depending what was wrong and what to recover
[04:43] <Capt_Blackwood> oh...i see
[04:44] <Some_Person> I'm really hoping for a file system that will completely ignore permissions though. That is my problem
[04:44] <CaptainTrek> Some_Person, there's no filesystem that I know of that ignores permissions.
[04:44] <Capt_Blackwood> I don't know about large drives...sorry.
[04:44] <TimothyA> Capt_Blackwood: it should see ext2 :|
[04:44] <Capt_Blackwood> well, permission ignoring filesystems.
[04:45] <TimothyA> Some_Person: a sheet of paper and pen!
[04:45] <gimpster_> I really do need help with my network card to work in this rig please help me
[04:45] <pmp6nl> what card you have?
[04:45] <gimpster_> BCM 4318 airforce one
[04:46] <Some_Person> My problem right now is that Linux is denying me access to stuff made on Windows, and I'm sure if I tried with Mac I would experience similar issues
[04:46] <pmp6nl> sorry not familar with that one.  you check the wireless board ont he forun
[04:46] <hmw> i don't remember having formatted my USB drive as FAT32 - !?
[04:46] <Some_Person> I just want to store some damn files without any permissions crap
[04:46] <gimpster_> pmp6nl check where???
[04:47] <hmw> Some_Person: i'd use NTFS
[04:47] <crucialhoax> gimpster_: Give me one sec
[04:47] <Some_Person> hmw: I have it as that now, and am having permissions issues
[04:47] <pmp6nl> gimpster http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336
[04:47] <Some_Person> I don't want to play with the permissions every time I write to it
[04:47] <gimpster_> crucial any help is totally cool | thanks pmp
[04:48] <pmp6nl> some_person, you shouldnt be.  mine works fine between win7, vista, and ubuntu.  what ubuntu version?
[04:48] <hmw> Some_Person: you can't expect permissions to work on a non-native filesystem. Either you have no perms and some programs will not like it, but everyone can access it, or you have to use ext{2|3|4} and deal WITH permissions.
[04:48] <crucialhoax> gimpster_: Does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:48] <Some_Person> pmp6nl: Perhaps part of my problem also lies with accessing it via network
[04:48] <DankNugs>  Hey, I'm wondering if someone could help me walk through some steps to figure out why my boot screen is blank after grub loads kernel.
[04:48] <gimpster_> crucial i will look it up now and see thanks
[04:49] <DankNugs> A few days ago, the latest build of lucid was working great. THen after a few updates, I can't get to gdm. It shows loading screen, goes blank. Doesn't respond to ctrl+alt+f# keys
[04:49] <crucialhoax> gimpster_: Ok. Let us knw :)
[04:49] <pmp6nl> Some_Person, have you tried accessing another hard drive locally?
[04:50] <Some_Person> The system with the HD physically connected to it primarily runs Windows XP
[04:50] <gimpster_> looks really good so far thanks for the addy - crucial
[04:50] <xangua> !lucid > DankNugs
[04:51] <pmp6nl> Some_Person try to connect that hd directly to the comp with ubuntu and see if you have the same problems
[04:51] <crucialhoax> gimpster_: Sweet, hopefully it works :)
[04:51] <DankNugs> Oh, my bad.
[04:51] <Some_Person> Basically, what I did was mounted it in Windows (on a machine connected via the network), created some files, booted ubuntu on that same machine, and those files are read-only
[04:52] <xangua> DankNugs: well, it's a beta after all, what were you expecting¿
[04:52] <pmp6nl> Some_Person can you access the windows partition on that hd from ubuntu (all on the same computer)?
[04:53] <DankNugs> oh, I know. I don't have a problem with it. :) I was just curious if someone could help me through some troubleshooting is all. Hard for me to do it on forums. But thank you.
[04:53] <Capt_Blackwood> DankNugs, 10.04 LTS?
[04:53] <Capt_Blackwood> DankNugs, if yes please try #ubuntu+1
[04:53] <DankNugs> Yeah, but this isn't the channel for it. I just found that out.
[04:54] <Capt_Blackwood> damn, nearly typed ubuntu + 5
[04:54] <DankNugs> I did. That's why I came in here. My impatience got the best of me.
[04:54] <Capt_Blackwood> ditch the impatience bro, and go back in and hang...somebody gotta say something
[04:55] <Capt_Blackwood> i hope that's not take personally
[04:55] <hylian> hello all
[04:55] <DankNugs> I'm doing just that. lol I figured it'd be quicker to talk to someone on irc than to read manpages
[04:55] <DankNugs> and figure it out. but whatever comes first.
[04:55] <RPG-Master> What's the channel for asking LoCo questions?
[04:55] <Flannel> RPG-Master: #ubuntu-locoteams would probably be a good start
[04:56] <RPG-Master> Flannel: Thanks
[04:56] <Capt_Blackwood> Keep on that strategy, something's liable to work
[04:56] <hylian> anyone ever get a lexamrk x2250 to work? i have to use windows because from what i read the printer and scanner dont work, need both
[04:56] <alexander_> saludos a los ubunteros de hoy
[04:56] <chelz> !es | alexander_
[04:56] <chelz> let's do this
[04:56] <stealth-> Can anyone recommend a easy-to-use emulator for n64 native to ubuntu?
[04:57] <chelz> stealth-: mupen64plus
[04:57] <hylian> ubottu, i love ya! save my bacon a lot
[04:57] <stealth-> chelz: thanks
[04:58] <rayvhen> I need to know how I can upload songs from my sansa mp3 play into Xubuntu
[04:58] <hylian> stealth i have actually had more luck running project64 via wine than the native n64. there is one though, under synaptic type 64
[04:58] <chelz> !xubuntu | rayvhen
[04:58] <chelz> n64 emus under wine do work pretty well these days
[04:58] <alexander_> Hello ubuntu users
[04:58] <chelz> !hi | alexander_
[04:59] <Capt_Blackwood> DankNugs, no problem
[04:59] <alexander_> I wonder if anyone here can help me
[04:59] <hylian> we can try
[04:59] <rayvhen> anyone have any ideas? I am really new to the system itself
[04:59] <alexander_> I am crazy to configure a DNS server
[04:59] <alexander_> I installed BIND9
[05:00] <DankNugs> you're not crazy
[05:00] <pmp6nl> hylian are you just trying to copy the.m?
[05:00] <chelz> rayvhen:  Join #xubuntu for support
[05:00] <markl_> rayvhen: not sure, can you just plug it into USB and browse the files on it?
[05:00] <chelz> alexander_: find a guide for the software you want to use, in this case BIND, and ubuntu
[05:00] <hylian> rayvhen can windows see that like it's a drive? if you plug it into ubuntu, then does ubuntu show you a new drive?
[05:00] <alexander_> but I have not find any tutorial
[05:00] <rayvhen> I will check the xubuntu server. Xubuntu is not showing me a new drive
[05:00] <hylian> pmp6nl copy who?
[05:01] <pmp6nl> hylian, sorry I cant read
[05:01] <pmp6nl> wrong user
[05:01] <alexander_> are really complecated for a beginer
[05:01] <chelz> alexander_: are you using desktop or server? what version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:01] <chelz> alexander_: well this is an opportunity to learn if you don't give up
[05:01] <hylian> rayvhen what make of sansa player?
[05:02] <alexander_> a server with ubuntu 9.10
[05:02] <DankNugs> failures are how you learn
[05:02] <rayvhen> sansa sandisk 2 gig
[05:02] <DankNugs> if you're not fucking up, you're not doing it right.
[05:02] <Flannel> DankNugs: Please mind the language, thanks
[05:02] <alexander_> I have been looking in Internet
[05:02] <DankNugs> Sorry.
[05:02] <wombatman> rayvhen: fuze?
[05:02] <techhelper1> language sets the feel of people here
[05:03] <pmp6nl> alexander_ are you trying to run a server?
[05:03] <wombatman> rayvhen: clip?
[05:03] <chelz> alexander_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dns-server-setup-using-bind-in-ubuntu.html
[05:03] <alexander_> yes sure
[05:03] <rayvhen> its the clip
[05:03] <alexander_> for my intranet
[05:03] <Guest67032> sure
[05:03] <chelz> pmp6nl: he's a self-described beginner and wants to setup a dns server
[05:03] <hylian> rayvhen rhapsody (for ubuntu, because it's gnome based) should be able to sync and transfer data, if that doesnt work, try downloading songbird, which should also work
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[05:03] <Flannel> alexander_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto might help
[05:03] <rayvhen> ok, thank you hylian
[05:04] <alexander_> we have a short network
[05:04] <hylian> rayvhen, no prob man.
[05:04] <wombatman> plug it in and then restart your computer
[05:04] <rayvhen> lady.. lol
[05:04] <Guest67032> when is that?
[05:04] <wombatman> i know i had problems with sansa on 9.10 up
[05:04] <alexander_> Thanks  Flannel I will take a look
[05:04] <Flannel> rayvhen: You can also configure it as MSC instead of MTP, and it should just show up as bulk storage
[05:04] <techhelper1> GeekNode is a relayer that i am building from scratch in perl
[05:04] <hylian> rayvhen sorry, erm, dudette? i was born in the 70's, LOL
[05:04] <wombatman> there's supposedly a fix as it's recognized improperly
[05:04] <techhelper1> So far it is working back and forth to GeekShed
[05:05] <Joelito> question, how can I print in the terminal the return status of a binary?
[05:05] <alexander_> I would like to get an step by step to configure on DNS
[05:05] <rayvhen> LOL hylian. Flannel. I am new to the whole Ubuntu and Xubuntu thing, so changing format on here may be a bit difficult for me. haha
[05:05] <Flannel> rayvhen: Are you currently using MTP with it?
[05:05] <collier_s> Joelito, echo $?
[05:05] <rayvhen> I have no idea
[05:06] <Flannel> rayvhen: On windows, did it show up as a drive? or as some fancy media device?
[05:06] <Flannel> rayvhen: How did you put music on it?
[05:06] <chelz> Joelito: echo $?
[05:06] <chelz> Joelito: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shell-how-to-determine-the-exit-status-of-linux-and-unix-command/
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[05:06] <rayvhen> on windows my player showed up fine. I am dual booting ( I think thats the proper term for it) I have both windows and xubuntu on my laptop
[05:06] <wombatman> rayvhen: mtp/msc is set in the settings of the player not ubuntu/xubuntu
[05:06] <Flannel> techhelper1: Bots aren't welcome here.
[05:06] <hylian> rayvhen you should be able to keep xubuntu, and still install either of those softwares. i just mentioned that it doesnt come with xubuntu because it's gnome based (ubuntu is gnome based)
[05:06] <Flannel> techhelper1: (please remove it)
[05:07] <techhelper1> Flannel i am sorry, but i said earlier it is a work in progress
[05:07] <Joelito> chelz  if I run my app and later use echo $_
[05:07] <hmw> My USB drive just "died" (logically, it seems). When I try to mount the file system, mount tells me, I needed to specify the fs type. How do I approach a recovery?
[05:07] <Flannel> rayvhen: That is the proper term.  If it's set up as MSC, then it just shows up as bulk stoage both places, so you don't need to transfer stuff.
[05:07] <alexander_> Thats good
[05:07] <techhelper1> and i thought i would show it here
[05:07] <Joelito> returns the binary name file
[05:07] <Flannel> techhelper1: Right, but "work in progress" bots aren't welcome just as "finished" ones aren't
[05:07] <halcyon-sky> yo
[05:08] <hylian> flannel, please say thet ubottu can stay, LOL he saved my bacon like 3 times with quick answers
[05:08] <Flannel> hylian: We run ubottu ;)
[05:08] <alexander_> Flannel thank you. Do you know if it exist in spanish
[05:08] <techhelper1> Can it stay if it relay's 1 way, and not the other
[05:08] <chelz> Joelito: you use "echo $?"  ?
[05:08] <Flannel> alexander_: I don't, you might ask in #ubuntu-es, they'd be more familiar
[05:08] <^b0ss^> Question : how well does ubuntu work with generic webcams ?
[05:08] <wombatman> rayvhen: both modes should work but try restarting with it plugged in. It can be a hassle but it may temporarily solve the problem and then search for fixes. I remember reading something about a fix having to do with a newer version of something but you may need to compile manually
[05:08] <mneptok> ubottu: intinedo Espanol?
[05:08] <techhelper1> it relays out to 1 network and does not recieve not back here flannel
[05:08] <chelz> ^b0ss^: goodly or badly
[05:08] <Flannel> techhelper1: Lets discuss this in #ubuntu-ops, it's not ontopic for this channel.
[05:09] <Joelito> chelz ah! nop :), I was using $_
[05:09] <Joelito> :p
[05:09] <mneptok> alexander_: so ... no.
[05:09] <Joelito> thanks chelz :)
[05:09] <chelz> Joelito: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shell-how-to-determine-the-exit-status-of-linux-and-unix-command/
[05:09] <alexander_> yes i wil try Thanks for all By
[05:09] <hylian> !ubottu rhapsody
[05:09] <^b0ss^> chelz: could you look at this ..  http://arc.com.au/pub.php?pid=34873&p=product
[05:09] <alexander_> byeç
[05:09] <hylian> nothing huh
[05:10] <chelz> ^b0ss^: best way to determine if hardware is well supported is to get a brand and model number, also some kind of PCI or USB ID  that i hear exist would be good. there's hardly any info on that page so it's probably a gamble. i really don't know of your chances are good or bad.
[05:10] <mneptok> hylian: does the music player show up as a mass storage device in Xubuntu?
[05:11] <hmw> My USB drive just "died" (logically, it seems). I put it directly into the PC and connected it via the internal sata cable. I'd like to re-construct the partition table and whatever might be damaged. I had no crash and suddenly i noticed the drive to be missing on my desktop. What tools are there, that could do something like searching for contents and recreate the FAT file system? (I thought, i used NTFS, but I am not sure)
[05:11] <^b0ss^> ok thanks ....what about a microsoft product ? http://arc.com.au/pub.php?pid=34873&p=product
[05:11] <David-A> hmw: have you verified its not the cable, because if it is a recovery might have unnessecary problems too?
[05:11] <hmw> David-A: i put the drive into the case of the computer and connected with INTERNAL sata
[05:11] <hylian> mneptok some do some dont. thats why i suggested rhapsody because it "sync's" well with most players, including sansa. mine is just a big flash hard drive, so i can just drag and drop
[05:11] <nameless> hi every one
[05:11] <chelz> hmw: really make sure there's something wrong with it before messing with the fs
[05:12] <hmw> chelz: it wont mount anymore
[05:12] <hmw> chelz: not in Ubuntu nor WinXP
[05:12] <mneptok> hylian: sorry, i see rayvhen was asking
[05:12] <chelz> hmw: what message do you get when you try to mount it in the terminal? (please pastebin)
[05:12] <David-A> hmw: and the io-error remains? ok
[05:12] <mneptok> rayvhen: does the music player show up as a mass storage device in Xubuntu?
[05:12] <hmw> chelz: i must specify the file system type
[05:12] <hylian> mneptok no problem. i just log in now and then to try and help people.
[05:12] <hushedfeet> P
[05:12] <chelz> hmw: what does partition editor / gparted say about it?
[05:12] <rayvhen> Thats the thing. It doesnt show up at all
[05:12] <hmw> David-A: there is NO IO ERROR... it must be logical
[05:13] <chelz> ^b0ss^: that's the same link, i think
[05:13] <mneptok> rayvhen: what kind of player?
[05:13] <hylian> rayvhen even once rhapsody is going?
[05:13] <rayvhen> sansa sandisk clip
[05:13] <nichos> hi all, im trying to follow the myth wiki im stuck on a step. it's telling me to unmute IEC958 from alsa mixer, but i don't have that listed
[05:13] <rayvhen> rhapsody wont install
[05:13] <mneptok> rayvhen: use the preferences in the Sansa UI to switch the player from MTP to MSC mode.
[05:13] <hylian> mneptok, is rhapsody gnome only?
[05:14] <mneptok> hylian: i don;t know. i'ver never used it.
[05:14] <hushedfeet> I am trying to configure psad on my karmic desktop, and I keep receiving an error regarding mail. upon further examination, /bin/mail doesn't exist. this seems wrong to me.
[05:14] <hylian> mneptok really? it's my favorite music player for ubuntu.
[05:14] <techhelper1> ....
[05:15] <hylian> ubottu !sansa
[05:15] <crucialhoax> hushedfeet: scan the machine with rkhunter. It scans the /bin /usr/bin and /sbin for programs. That is a good start
[05:15] <hylian> your batting a thousand tonight ubottu,..
[05:15] <chelz> hushedfeet: i personally have mail in /usr/bin/mail
[05:15] <hmw> http://pastebin.com/qK6qvgj0
[05:16] <dibs> When I execute a bash script how can I tell it to always just open in a terminal?
[05:16] <mneptok> hylian: nothing from Real will ever touch my system.
[05:16] <crucialhoax> !sansa > rayvhen
[05:16] <David-A> hmw: if you mount with mount -t <TYPE> /dev/<DEVICE> /<MOUNTPOINT> with correct type, does it explain why it cannot mount?
[05:16] <chelz> hmw: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[05:16] <hylian> mneptok i goofed up not rhapsody, rhythymbox. i am such a moron.
[05:16] <hmw> David-A: chelz: i never had to, its broken. Bad Superblock stuff
[05:17] <DankNugs> when should you use mount -t auto verses mount -t <specific filesystem>?
[05:17] <chelz> hmw: but do it for the message it puts out to pastebin the message it puts out
[05:17] <hushedfeet> nah, i still just have mail-lock -touchlock and -unlock
[05:17] <hmw> http://pastebin.com/ADCfLjtZ
[05:17] <chelz> DankNugs: when it's time, you will know
[05:17] <rayvhen> switched it to msc mode
[05:17] <hmw> i told you, standard blahblah i dont want this disk anymore
[05:18] <David-A> hmw: have you verified that /dev/sdXX is the same device/partition as when it was external? was it the whole disk (sdX) or a partition (sdXY)?
[05:18] <hylian> rayvhen now when you replug it back in does xubuntu recognize a new flash drive?
[05:19] <hmw> there is only this one disk, with one large partition. the other drive is the USB stick, i used to boot (because i can only put in one HDD internally, the system disk is not active now)
[05:19] <rayvhen> yes it does hylian
[05:19] <ed2ef> hmw, what "dmesg | tail" says?
[05:19] <rayvhen> you are awesome :)
[05:19] <hmw> ed2ef: nothing, i would have noticed as important. do you want me to grep for something special?
[05:19] <rayvhen> thanks a bunch :)
[05:20] <hylian> rayvhen actually that one belongs to mneptok, but thanx anywayz.
[05:20] <hylian> rayvhen im sure you know the rest, time for some drag and drop action
[05:20] <rayvhen> oops sry
[05:20] <rayvhen> Thank you Mneptok. you are freakin awesome
[05:20] <Guest67032> having problems using wine, when i launch a Risk program it starts the splash screen then crashes, giving me the website for reporting bugs. any ideas, thanks
[05:20] <rayvhen> oh yeah. lots of drag and drop action. lol
[05:20] <ed2ef> hmw, can u use the mount command, them copy the output of "dmesg | tail" ?
[05:21] <hylian> guest67032 what version of wine? wine 1.x or 1.2/
[05:21] <David-A> hmw: re. recovery programs. have you an equally large space on another disk to make a binary copy? (the copy will probably have same superblockerror)
[05:22] <hmw> FAT: bogus sectors per cluster 0. \n VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem on dev sda1.  -- doesnt look like IO error to me. This looks like a logical error, doesnt it?
[05:23] <David-A> hmw: there is also programs that recognize jpeg and other file formats and recovers them of a damaged disk (dont expect 100% recovery that way)
[05:23] <xangua> appdb > Guest67032
[05:23] <xangua> !appdb
[05:23]  * mneptok is many things. "freakin' awesome" probably not among them.
[05:23] <ed2ef> hmw: dude, i really can get it, on your fdisk -l says that sda1 is a fat32 partition
[05:23] <geekphreak> mneptok: heh
[05:23] <Guest67032> thanks
[05:23] <ed2ef> hmw: but ur mount is trying to mount a ext4
[05:23] <ed2ef> !?
[05:23] <hmw> David-A: i have a backup of the most important files. More importantly, how can I prevent this from happening again? What did actually happen?
[05:23] <hylian> xangua i think he/she is gone
[05:24] <hmw> ed2ef: i think i used NTFS, but I am not sure.
[05:24] <subone> Where's the "Open With..." directory in home?
[05:24] <geekphreak> hmw:  you dont remember?
[05:24] <hylian> bye all time for sleep
[05:24] <ed2ef> hmw: try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt(or other mount point)
[05:24] <hmw> geekphreak: right. I formatted it a few months ago, and I can't imagine to have used FAT.
[05:25] <hushedfeet> chelz: the mail logfiles even exist... they're just blank
[05:25] <hmw> ed2ef: http://pastebin.com/qK6qvgj0   http://pastebin.com/ADCfLjtZ
[05:26] <hmw> guess i will have to dig through 24 hours of log file :/
[05:26] <hushedfeet> crucialhoax: doesn't find it
[05:26] <hmw> hints, what I should be grepping for, if i wanted to find out, why the drive crashed?
[05:26] <ed2ef> hmw, but you use vfat on type?Or just put auto?
[05:27] <ed2ef> hmw, your partition is a fat 32 dude, something is really wrong
[05:27] <hmw> ed2ef: i strongly doubt, that i formatted fat 32... i think, some program is crying for mama
[05:27] <David-A> hmw: what happend? one theory, if the cable was to long, maybe some bits were written wrong, and now when reading with a good cable, its still wrong on the disk. just an idea.
[05:28] <hmw> David-A: i would like to verify this. What would I see in the logs, if your theory applies?
[05:28] <ed2ef> hmw, idk, i never see fdisk confuse the partition type
[05:29] <David-A> hmw: it seems unlikely that all superblock went wrong thou. there should be lots of redundancy.
[05:29] <geekphreak> hmw:  what does sudo cfdisk show partition type?
[05:29] <ed2ef> hmw, when you try "mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt" it still can't mount?
[05:29] <David-A> hmw: what does fsck say?
[05:29] <hmw> geekphreak: it tells me, the MBR is messed up heavily
[05:29] <geekphreak> mbr?
[05:30] <hmw> ed2ef: http://pastebin.com/ADCfLjtZ
[05:30] <crucialhoax> hushedfeet: Well that is odd. Does it recognize that as a rootkit?
[05:30] <hmw> well, the MBR was my interpretation. cfdisk said: "FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends in the final partial cylinder"
[05:31] <geekphreak> hmw:  you got some issues going there , good luck :)
[05:31] <hmw> i could try to recalculate the MBR things manually... but i dont want to
[05:31] <ed2ef> hmw, i already saw that paste, what was the command used on this paste?
[05:31] <Daemonic> Is there a program/driver for usb xbox360 controllers?
[05:31] <hmw> ed2ef: the one you suggtested mount vfat etcv
[05:31] <ed2ef> damn
[05:32] <hmw> well... if you don't have suggestions, what I should be grepping for, I think, you won't be able to help much further. Thanks for your time anyhow.
[05:32] <ed2ef> hmw, did your already tried "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt" ?
[05:32] <chelz> !recover | hmw
[05:33] <hmw> i did
[05:33] <hmw> aah... thanks chelz
[05:33] <ed2ef> same error?
[05:33] <chelz> hmw: search that wiki thing for gpart
[05:33] <David-A> hmw: the err msg in pastebin says "wrong fs type" OR "bad <LOTSOFTHINGS>". lets find out what the fs type really is, yes?
[05:33] <techhelper1> !ext3
[05:33] <chelz> hmw: not gparted but gpart
[05:33] <techhelper1> !ext4
[05:33] <techhelper1> ...
[05:33] <techhelper1> someone needs to get that
[05:34] <techhelper1> fannel
[05:34] <chelz> hmw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#GNU%20Parted
[05:34] <chelz> phenylalanine
[05:34] <techhelper1> !help
[05:34] <hmw> David-A: alright, lets find out. I am just somewhat clueless, last time i did this is over 10 years ago
[05:34] <techhelper1> !gnome
[05:34] <geekphreak> techhelper1: stop it
[05:35] <techhelper1> stop what?
[05:35] <dtminsk_> Anyone here have any ideas on how to unbrick ubunt 10 beta 2
[05:35] <chelz> !ubottu > techhelper1
[05:35] <dtminsk_> beta 1 worked fine
[05:35] <chelz> !lucid | dtminsk_
[05:35] <hmw> actually, this is my first data loss in over 10 years :)
[05:35] <chelz> dtminsk_: #ubuntu+1
[05:36] <chelz> hmw: have backups?
[05:36] <techhelper1> chelz it should change the response of search my brain, to pick my brain
[05:36] <techhelper1> lol
[05:36] <hmw> chelz: yes, its only 50% ugly. I want to find out, what happened and see, if i can prevent it from happening again, mainly.
[05:36] <chelz> search the factoids through the web interface
[05:36] <David-A> hmw: quick search like: "for fstype in vfat ntfs ext2 ext3 ext4 reiserfs ANDMORE; do mount -f $fstype /dev/XXX /WHATEVER; done"
[05:36] <hmw> i lost a lot of video files
[05:37] <David-A> hmw: err  mount -t $fstype, not -f
[05:37] <hmw> lol nice, david
[05:37] <hmw> i mean the for loop
[05:37] <student> anybody please explain what is "bundle script" & how yo create it
[05:37] <Daemonic> Could not connect to packages.medibuntu.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[05:38] <Daemonic> I've been getting that all day
[05:38] <Daemonic> what gives?
[05:38] <voss749> I wonder why the medibuntu folks havent just come up with their own Medibuntu iso
[05:38] <inglor> voss749: that would make no sense...
[05:39] <chelz> !medibuntu | Daemonic
[05:39] <hmw> http://pastebin.com/AQJQcE7J - means NTFS?
[05:40] <hushedfeet> wooo i fixed it
[05:40] <David-A> hmw: the man page of mount lists about 30 fs types you can test if you like. mount read only (option "-o ro") in case a type think it is right but not quite and writes back somthing wrong.
[05:40] <ezrafree> is there any way to use a remote screen session in X? and have gui tabs for each "screen" still?
[05:40] <chelz> hushedfeet: what was it?
[05:40] <bp0> why isn't there a partimage package for amd64 lucid?
[05:41] <chelz> bp0: #ubuntu+1
[05:41] <hushedfeet> foolish typo in conf
[05:41] <hushedfeet> got psad up now too!
[05:41] <hmw> David-A: i am pretty sure, i used NTFS, because I always do with my data partitions. Only NTFS, ext{3|4} and FAT32 might be possible, that's for sure.
[05:42] <Guest67032> does ubuntu version 9.10 include DirectShow (DX7) ?
[05:42] <chelz> hmw: dd it then run gpart over the dd'd img
[05:42] <chelz> in ro
[05:43] <hmw> Guest67032: that's more a question, if wine does include that. Ubuntu does NOT come with wine installed by default. Try winetricks to get DX installed, after you installed wine.
[05:43] <chelz> !wine | Guest67032
[05:43] <Guest67032> thanks, ok
[05:43] <David-A> hmw: ok, quite few to try then, and have you tried mount both /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1? (assuming its the 2nd disk)
[05:44] <hmw> chelz: lol... hm... i'd love to, but... 1TB --> 250GB wont work, i fear. I will look closer to my logs later, and after that will try to run gpart on the original drive due to lack of hardware.
[05:44] <polydeuces> Hey all, I just downloaded and installed Ubuntu 9.10 today (netbook remix) and just had a question about .run files, if anyone has a moment to help.
[05:44] <inglor> polydeuces: what seems to be the problem?
[05:45] <Dead_Pixel> Is there a program I can use with ubuntu, to make a full disk backup including the MBR incase of a hard disk failure?
[05:46] <puser> Hello, I can't figure out what happened. I get - ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted, when ping, also, my internet seems to be completley blocked. I figure that it's a firewall, but how do I revert it to default, so that my internet works again?
[05:46] <red2kic> !backup | Dead_Pixel
[05:46] <hmw> Dead_Pixel: lol... they just told me to use:   dd  ("disk dupe")
[05:46] <polydeuces> inglor: in the instructions I was to change permission to run it as an executable, which I did. this program (a game called Dofus) requires adobeAir, which I installed as well (seemingly successfully) though when I attempt to run the .run install file, the terminal comes up for a split second, vanishes, and nothing happens.
[05:47] <inglor> polydeuces: you can run it from terminal and see what happens, you can either tag the "run in terminal" option or open the terminal yourself and type ./yourfilename.run and see what happens
[05:47] <inglor> I wouldn't mess with permissions at first anyway
[05:47] <Dead_Pixel> hmw, is there something that would make an image or something to restore to that includes the partitions and mbr and everything instead of... duplicating the disk onto another disk?
[05:48] <polydeuces> inglor: it was mentioned specifically in the instructions given by the company. I tried what you said earlier, there was an error message last time I tried. I'll see if I can show it to you.
[05:48] <hmw> Dead_Pixel: get partimage
[05:48] <stealth-> Ummm, I kinda uninstalled a bunch of stuff I shouldn't have, now mplayer and glxinfo segfault.... Anyone know what I uninstalled?
[05:48] <hmw> Dead_Pixel: either use an Ubuntu USB thumb drive with partimage or get "clonezilla" live cd
[05:48] <Daemonic> ok, so medibuntu gone?
[05:48] <Daemonic> is*
[05:49] <Dead_Pixel> hmw ok thanks
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> Daemonic, not gone, but temporarily unavailable
[05:49] <Daemonic> wow that really sucks.
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> Daemonic, i agree - see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/565810
[05:50] <David-A> stealth: there is a history of whats done in synaptic package manager. if you apt-get removed i dont know. there is .bash_history if not too long ago and sudo should have a log, but dont know where and if enabeled by default
[05:50] <polydeuces> inglor: Do you know what this means? Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 8107f5f88b8d807b9f5d3ca11477271f is different from ec01f5c68bf3feb7fa0b00cfe951bb7b
[05:50] <MrGoodkat> any decent script/program to convert dts to ac3 in mkvs?
[05:51] <MrGoodkat> aften always reports a buffer error
[05:51] <puser> Hello, I can't figure out what happened. I get - ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted, when ping, also, my internet seems to be completley blocked. How do I revert it to default, so that my internet works again?
[05:51] <inglor> polydeuces: an MD5 checksum is your program's digital isgnature, since it has a different signature it is assuming it is corrupt
[05:51] <polydeuces> Well that's no good!
[05:51] <plasmator> Hi, my ubuntu doesn't work can someone help me
[05:51] <inglor> polydeuces: yep, and it also means the problem is not with ubuntu, it's with the install file
[05:52] <inglor> !ask
[05:52] <polydeuces> There are plenty of other Linux/Ubuntu users playing this game... I'm not sure where to get the file, then.
[05:52] <polydeuces> Any suggestions?
[05:52] <plasmator> Why does my ubuntu look like Windows?
[05:52] <inglor> polydeuces: if you want a "dirty" hack around this I can help you, but it's not good education
[05:52] <inglor> plasma, what do you mean?
[05:52] <NinoScript> what file system is better for handling relatively large files? I'm doing a data-only partition in which I'll put my music/movies, and I sometimes get 5 or 10 GB movies in 1 file
[05:52] <inglor> Plasmastar: what do you mean?
[05:52] <plasmator> It looks like Windows not Ubuntu
[05:52] <polydeuces> Inglor: LOL. How do you mean? And what would be 'good' education? ;)
[05:53] <inglor> polydeuces: good education is working md5 sums, bad education means open the file with text editor (gedit)
[05:53] <MrGoodkat> plasmator what does look like windows?
[05:53] <techhelper1> hdd + clonezilla = Long Time Crunch
[05:53] <MrGoodkat> the desktop/
[05:53] <plasmator> the whole thing looks like windows
[05:53] <techhelper1> I need to run SpinRite
[05:53] <inglor> polydeuces: then go to the line that says MD5 = and change it to 8107f5f88b8d807b9f5d3ca11477271f is
[05:53] <MrGoodkat> maybe you booted into windows
[05:54] <CaptainTrek> perhaps you did boot to windows, plasmator
[05:54] <polydeuces> Hm, I'll give it a shot. Thanks inglor!
[05:54] <plasmator> it even says 'starting windows'
[05:54] <polydeuces> I'll let you know how it goes.
[05:54] <techhelper1> you are booting windows
[05:54] <inglor> polydeuces: "8107f5f88b8d807b9f5d3ca11477271f" which is what it outputted, like I said, this is a BAD solution, at least try fetching the file again and see one more time if it works
[05:54] <crucialhoax> plasmator: Dude, you are in windows... No worries here. :)
[05:54] <techhelper1> Starting Windows = Windows 7
[05:54] <plasmator> but I installed ubuntu
[05:54] <inglor> polydeuces: bad MD5 sum usually means a problem in downloading the file
[05:54] <polydeuces> I'll try downloading again, first, then.
[05:54] <techhelper1> did you install the bootloader that came with it
[05:54] <techhelper1> or is that auto now
[05:55] <plasmator> what is a bootloader
[05:55] <MrGoodkat> if you installed it in addition to windows you have to install the bootloader too
[05:55] <crucialhoax> polydeuces: Try redownloading the file and check it again.
[05:55] <plasmator> i installed ubuntu
[05:55] <plasmator> it said it worked
[05:55] <hmw> techhelper1: since when was Ubuntu NOT installing Grub or Grub 2?
[05:55] <inglor> plasmator: did you install ubuntu ALONGSIDE windows or INSTEAD OF windows?
[05:55] <techhelper1> plasmator a bootloader manages the 2 installs
[05:55] <techhelper1> meaning you should have the option to choose between the 2
[05:55] <MrGoodkat> plasmator https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[05:55] <plasmator> it gave me a window saying it worked when I installed it though
[05:56] <plasmator> I never got a choice
[05:56] <inglor> plasmator, did you install ubuntu from within windows by any chance?
[05:56] <techhelper1> when it boots up does it give you the option to push Esc and a countdown
[05:56] <polydeuces> inglor: When I try running in terminal, it says "Permission denied." Is there a better way around it than going into properties and manually giving permission?
[05:56] <plasmator> it doesn't give me any options it just says starting windows
[05:57] <inglor> polydeuces: sudo
[05:57] <inglor> !sudo
[05:57] <inglor> and if it's a graphical game use gksudo instead
[05:57] <techhelper1> then you need to install the boot loader, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[05:57] <Tired2> does ubuntu support magicjack?
[05:57] <plasmator> I did install it from inside windows
[05:57] <inglor> polydeuces: that makes you run it as the superuser having ''almost'' all permissions
[05:57] <plasmator> Firefox specifically
[05:58] <polydeuces> okay, I think it's just an install file, though. so do I just do sudo ./DofusInstall.run ?
[05:58] <inglor> plasmator, that means you installed wubi and that makes sense
[05:58] <plasmator> what is wubi, I think my kid watches that on nickelodeon
[05:58] <techhelper1> did you run wubi?
[05:58] <plasmator> oh wait that's wubsy
[05:58] <inglor> polydeuces, that should work if I recall, you can also sh ./stuff.run
[05:58] <inglor> !wubi | plasmator
[05:58] <plasmator> I didn't see anything that said wubi
[05:58] <polydeuces> Okay, I'll give it a shot. Thanks Inglor! I'll keep you posted.
[05:58] <rafaelsoaresbr> Successfully installed Ubuntu 9.10 here, thank you all!
[05:58] <MrGoodkat> wubi sets up the boatloader though
[05:58] <techhelper1> !vm
[05:59] <inglor> polydeuces: sure
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> plasmator how did you install ubuntu?
[05:59] <techhelper1> !vm | plasmator
[05:59] <plasmator> I clicked on ubuntu
[05:59] <plasmator> duh
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> and then?
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> where did you click on ubuntu?
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> did you run it from a cd?
[05:59] <inglor> MrGoodkat, but I believe that it keeps windows as the default OS meaning when you boot you have to notice ubuntu and choose it
[05:59] <plasmator> no from the internet
[05:59] <techhelper1> plasmator did you run wubi or boot from a cd
[05:59] <MrGoodkat> how do you install ubuntu from the internet?
[05:59] <techhelper1> wubi meaning did you install it from windows
[06:00] <MrGoodkat> you probably only downloaded it
[06:00] <techhelper1> MrGoodkat: Netboot
[06:00] <plasmator> I clicked ubuntu and it said it worked
[06:00] <polydeuces> Hm, inglor: I'm still getting an error on the checksums.
[06:00] <techhelper1> which let's you download and install using the internet
[06:00] <techhelper1> well did it say that in windows or on the cd, Plasmastar
[06:00] <MrGoodkat> techhelper1 netboot doesnt let you install ubuntu via firefox afaik
[06:01] <plasmator> why would the cd say something I had no cd
[06:01] <inglor> polydeuces, ok, then I guess you can try opening the file with gedit and changing the checksum yourself, maybe they updated the game and forgot to update the checksum
[06:01] <techhelper1> that is true
[06:01] <polydeuces> Okay, sounds good. What did you say to change it to? The output?
[06:01] <MrGoodkat> plasmator do you have the link you clicked?
[06:01] <plasmator> yes
[06:01] <techhelper1> what is that
[06:01] <plasmator> ubuntu
[06:01] <MrGoodkat> can you post the link here please
[06:01] <techhelper1> ...
[06:01] <techhelper1> what did you download exactly
[06:02] <techhelper1> post that link
[06:02] <plasmator> Ubuntu Home Page
[06:02] <inglor> polydeuces: try that, it might or might not work depending what the MD5 check is comparing to
[06:02] <plasmator> change is coming
[06:02] <MrGoodkat> that only downloads ubuntu
[06:02] <polydeuces> Will do, thanks again.
[06:02] <MrGoodkat> it doesnt install it
[06:02] <plasmator> But it said it was successful
[06:02] <MrGoodkat> the download was probably successful
[06:02] <plasmator> It said ubuntu successful
[06:03] <MrGoodkat> that page allows you to download an image which you have to burn on cd
[06:03] <plasmator> why do you make it so hard to install ubuntu
[06:03] <polydeuces> Hm, inglor: when I try to open it in gedit, I get this error message. gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[06:03] <polydeuces> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[06:03] <polydeuces> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.
[06:03] <MrGoodkat> it even did say it there
[06:03] <plasmator> should I try restarting again
[06:03] <MrGoodkat> 1. Download Ubuntu 2. Burn your Ubuntu Cd 3. Install Ubuntu
[06:03] <inglor> polydeuces, you ARE trying to open a binary file :) hmm, any other editor should work
[06:03] <MrGoodkat> you should burn the image you downloaded to a cd
[06:04] <polydeuces> ah, I see. Thanks :)
[06:04] <MrGoodkat> and then boot your computer with the cd
[06:04] <plasmator> burn?
[06:04] <inglor> polydeuces: the thing is I looked at the installer and it's part bash and part compiled
[06:04] <plasmator> That doesn't sound nice
[06:04] <polydeuces> say Hmm... So what does that mean?
[06:04] <plasmator> how do i burn images to cds
[06:05] <hmw> the ubottu link for rescuing files seems to be quite excellent! thanks! With a little luck I could even get my data back :)
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> plasmator, verify what ISO you are downloading - i DO NOT recommend you install 10.04 (the Change is Coming link), use stable 9.10 instead
[06:05] <inglor> polydeuces: that you can open and edit the bash part of it
[06:05] <plasmator> what is ISO
[06:05] <plasmator> In Search Of?
[06:05] <MrGoodkat> plasmator if you are on windows use "nero"
[06:05] <polydeuces> I see. Is there a specific editor I should be using?
[06:05] <plasmator> hero?
[06:05] <plasmator> oh nero
[06:05] <plasmator> what is nero
[06:05] <inglor> gconf should work but any other editor should work as well
[06:05] <MrGoodkat> a program that allows you to burn ubuntu on a cd
[06:05] <plasmator> why does ubuntu just not do that though
[06:06] <MrGoodkat> maybe you should stay with windows though ;)
[06:06] <MrGoodkat> ubuntu does that too
[06:06] <plasmator> are you patronizing me mrgoodkat
[06:06] <polydeuces> Okay, I'll give that a go
[06:06] <MrGoodkat> but you dont have ubuntu installed yet
[06:06] <inglor> plasmator, I suggest that you get help from your local ubuntu community, ubuntu is not hard to use for people with computing experience, but if you don't know computing basics
[06:06] <MrGoodkat> so you have to go with what windows offers
[06:06] <kman> Zen.  tyvm.  My system is up and running again.
[06:07] <plasmator> where do i find my 'local ubuntu community' is there a secret handshake or something
[06:07] <inglor> plasmator, I'm sure your local community can guide you through the installation process and can probably help you get used to ubuntu. you'll probably even find it easier to use eventually
[06:07] <hmw> a nice burning program for windows is "Deep Burner PORTABLE" to be downloaded from www.portableapps.com
[06:07] <inglor> plasmator, well if you tell us where you live we can find it for you, or you can use the internet
[06:07] <kman> And thanks to the others that helped as well.
[06:07] <plasmator> the internet has been no help thus far, it told me ubuntu successful even though it apparently wasn't
[06:07] <MrGoodkat> plasmator https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[06:07] <geekphreak> kman: how did it go?
[06:07] <MrGoodkat> a list of the communities
[06:08] <geekphreak> kman:  good news :)
[06:08] <numen> hi
[06:08] <numen> i have problem with ubuntu 9.1
[06:08] <inglor> !ask | numan
[06:08] <pepee> hmw, use infrarecorder
[06:08] <polydeuces> Hey inglor, where can I get gconf?
[06:08] <numen> inglor just wait, im writing^^
[06:08] <plasmator> What is with the community thing
[06:08] <kman> I ran the sue apt-get update.  this game me an error but a suggestion to run another apt-get command.  Ran it and voila I'm back up and running.
[06:08] <inglor> polydeuces: gedit I meant -_-
[06:08] <plasmator> is Ubuntu some communist thing?
[06:09] <red2kic> plasmator: Stick with Windows. That toy is tainted for terrible trolls.
[06:09] <techhelper1> yes
[06:09] <numen> when i watch a movie or listen to musik on x, sound is very bad
[06:09] <polydeuces> Oh, I can't open it via gedit for some reason. Is there something I have to do?
[06:09] <numen> but when i switch to shell, sound is good, but still running in x
[06:09]  * sinistrad smells a troll
[06:09] <techhelper1> plasmator you forgot to install the bootloader that was all
[06:09] <numen> it is an nforce4 board with enabled 5.1 sound
[06:09] <kman> Thanks geek.  Now it;s time for bed.
[06:09] <numen> i use pulseaudio
[06:09] <geekphreak> kman: great
[06:09] <MrGoodkat> techhelper1 it sounds like he only downloaded it
[06:09] <numen> where could be the problem?
[06:09] <MrGoodkat> he said he didnt burn a cd
[06:10] <DankNugs> together we stand; divided we fall. communist = good. poor troll.
[06:10] <techhelper1> did get get a iso file
[06:10] <kman> Have a good night.  you guys are great.
[06:10] <techhelper1> on his computer
[06:10] <inglor> maybe gedit is just being annoying, try to open it with vi
[06:10] <polydeuces> vi?
[06:10] <plasmator> sorry guys, I couldn't resist. :)
[06:10] <inglor> plasmator, you should've at least been funnier
[06:10] <red2kic> polydeuces: Use nano instead. It is more *comfortable* for beginners.
[06:10] <MrGoodkat> numen have you tried to kill pulseaudio before you start the music?
[06:10]  * plasmator has been using Linux for 15 years :P
[06:10] <inglor> yeah, I guess nano is easier
[06:10] <polydeuces> Okay, I'll give it a shot
[06:11] <hmw> those illegal communist <strike>operating</strike> hacker systems will crush civilization, beware!
[06:11] <plasmator> inglor:  Yeah but there's that fine line between funny and unbelievable
[06:11] <DankNugs> vi > yuo
[06:11] <numen> MrGoodkat then i have no sound
[06:11] <plasmator> If the communist thing would have taken off, it would have been good
[06:11] <MrGoodkat> numen pulseaudio restarts on its own
[06:11] <numen> you mean with pulseauido -k ?
[06:11] <polydeuces> red2kic, is it NEdit?
[06:12] <hmw> plasmator: trolling is always failing. find a better hobby. Perhaps build your own Linux? www.linuxfromscratch.org
[06:12] <MrGoodkat> killall pulseaudio should do it
[06:12] <red2kic> polydeuces: nano. If you want GUI, use gedit. I like geany myself. :3
[06:12] <plasmator> hmw:  been there done that man
[06:12] <hmw> do it again :)
[06:12] <polydeuces> where do I get these?
[06:12] <plasmator> before linuxfromscratch.org was around, even :)
[06:12] <polydeuces> do I just sudo apt-get install ?
[06:12] <numen> MrGoodkat the strange thing is, that sound becomes good, when i switch to shell
[06:13] <plasmator> eh, some trolls are bad but mine was all in good fun
[06:13] <hmw> plasmator: well.. in this case, try to send some positive karma waves into my hard drive in order to get it revived.
[06:13] <red2kic> polydeuces: Meh. I only offered you an alternative. I'm not sure what you're trying to do.  Do this -- "gedit /name/of/file/troll.txt" or something similar.
[06:13] <plasmator> what's up with your hdd, hmw?
[06:13] <DankNugs> if you're in root shell no need for sudo
[06:13] <inglor> polydeuces: you just type sudo nano yourfile.run
[06:13] <hmw> plasmator: it died for apparently no reason.
[06:13] <plasmator> what brand?
[06:13] <inglor> it's a text line editor, looks old but because it is old it is stupid :P
[06:14] <hmw> maxtor. not a hardware failure, it seems.
[06:14] <bscape> hi, for some reason whenever i use xsetbg it puts up the image.  but then when i reboot the image goes away, does anyone know why it does that? i'm running ion3 on 9.10 minimal install
[06:14] <polydeuces> Ah, THERE we go
[06:14] <plasmator> maxtor is one to steer clear of, how are you defining hardware failure?
[06:15] <hmw> plasmator: it doesnt show IO errors. Perhaps a bad cable or something, but not really "damaged"... scanning it right now, in hope of getting the partition back
[06:15] <red2kic> hmw: By the way, hard drives are the most instable computing device in the machines. That's why servers regularly make backups.
[06:15] <inglor> yeah, hard drives are just so unreliable -_-
[06:16] <plasmator> HDDs and Power supplies are the most likely to fail, moving parts.
[06:16] <DankNugs> too bad there are some upsides to flash :/
[06:16] <numen> why not use ssds?
[06:16] <plasmator> hmw:  You just lost partition and that was it?
[06:16] <inglor> plasmator: thing is you can get good power supplies that rarely fail but good hdds also fail pretty bad -_-
[06:16] <plasmator> inglor: true
[06:17] <hmw> red2kic: last time i actually lost data was on my 486 with a 800 MB HD. THis time I only lost a lot of videos. I know that I want to do backup regularly. plasmator: i suddenly noticed, that some bookmarks had disappeared and then I found my drive in a deep identity crisis.
[06:17] <polydeuces> inglor: once I'm done editing the file in nano, how do I save/exit?
[06:17] <geekphreak> polydeuces: ctrl+x to exit
[06:18] <inglor> ctl+x
[06:18] <WXZ> first day using, I accidentally removed the equivalent of the "system tray"
[06:18] <nomad77> hmw: i've used testdidk,not infallable but works a lot
[06:18] <plasmator> hmw:  well when you replace it, try seagate or hitachi ultrastar.  Seagate had issues last year but they're still among the best.
[06:18] <WXZ> how do I get it back on the panel?
[06:18] <hmw> polydeuces: press CTRL+X (eXit) then Y ("Yes, write") and ENTER. Look at the bootom of your screen to understand the menu.
[06:18] <nomad77> hmw:  sorry typo testdisk
[06:18] <polydeuces> Got it, thanks!
[06:18] <inglor> polydeuces: well, does it install?
[06:19] <polydeuces> inglor: don't know yet, trying in a moment
[06:19] <David-A> hmw: my harddrives usually lives 1-5 years. currently have maxtor that have worked well for more than 3 years now.
[06:19] <hmw> nomad77: i am running gpart right now. perhaps i'll try the other programs, too. GOt a nice link from ubottu to a nice page with fool-proof instructions.
[06:19] <inglor> WXZ, the top or bottom panel?
[06:19] <aetaric> !ot
[06:19] <numen> i think, on harddisks, the manufacturer is not the most important
[06:19] <numen> each one has bad series
[06:20] <hmw> aetaric is right, we're getting off-topic.
[06:20] <red2kic> !panels | WXZ
[06:20] <polydeuces> Hmm, inglor: it seems to have compromised the .run filetype once I did that
[06:21] <polydeuces> I tried 'sh ./stuff.run' and it called me stupid.
[06:21] <inglor> polydeuces: what error?
[06:21] <hmw> anyone used gpart to find "lost" partitions before? I would have expected almost immediate results, since there is (was) only one partition on the drive - or will it show the result only after scanning the whole drive?
[06:21] <polydeuces> LOL.
[06:21] <polydeuces> Hang on.
[06:21] <polydeuces> sh: can't open DofusInstall.run
[06:21] <red2kic> !recovery | hmw
[06:21] <red2kic> hmw: Meh. That is not it.
[06:22] <MrGoodkat> any way to convert dts to ac3 in mkvs? would be great if it were a one step script or program
[06:22] <pepee> hmw, use cfdis
[06:22] <pepee> *cfdisk
[06:22] <MrGoodkat> and not many steps
[06:22] <polydeuces> once I saved it, it changed the filetype to DofusInstall.run.save and I think it messed it up.
[06:22] <red2kic> !undelete | hmw
[06:22] <proq> can someone point me to a list of what packages to remove to remove gnome? I don't have a server CD handy and I need to strip down my system for quick running on virtualbox
[06:22] <inglor> polydeuces: so rename it and then run it :P
[06:23] <chelz> hmw: if you give it a range it'll work faster
[06:23] <hmw> red2kic: this page does not answer my question, it only gives instructions on how to use it. I want to know, if I should let it run for hours or if I already could deduce, that it wont work
[06:23] <polydeuces> I did, it didn't work.
[06:23] <polydeuces> It wouldn't even let me change the permissions on it
[06:23] <boblemur> proq: do you still need X?
[06:23] <red2kic> proq: "aptitude show ubuntu-desktop" --- That would be a good start.
[06:24] <boblemur> proq: because if you dont then you can just remove the X server and this will drop ubuntu back to cli, perhaps installing the server version or the mini iso's might also be a good idea if you want a lean ubuntu
[06:24] <inglor> polydeuces: the thing is the script is made with Makeself, if you had the sourcecode you could compile it nicely yourself, but since it is 2 files combined I'm not really sure
[06:25] <red2kic> hmw: The best bet is to dd your "damaged" partition/hdd to external HDD or such. Then you could run any tests on it. You're just copying the hard drive (binaries) in a nutshell.
[06:25] <polydeuces> Hm, I think I understand. I'll see if I can hunt around on the forums for a solution.
[06:25] <polydeuces> thanks for all your helpful advice, though :)
[06:25] <inglor> what you get is the "Error in MD5 checksums: $md5sum is different from $md5"
[06:25] <sobczyk> hi, is there a way to set separate wallpapers on a streched desktop? (2 monitors having different resolution)
[06:25] <hmw> red2kic: Nope. 1TB --> 250 GB situation. Thanks, though.
[06:26] <red2kic> sobczyk: Use GIMP to combine images? :(
[06:26] <inglor> polydeuces: see, I think that what's messing with it is the documentation they added themselves :P
[06:26] <sobczyk> red2kic, I hoped someone wrote a siple ap :(
[06:26] <hmw> sobczyk: not without heavy tweaking of gnome/nautilus (perhaps compiling stuff on your own)
[06:26] <polydeuces> inglor: how do you mean? they intentionally make it not work?
[06:26] <inglor> polydeuces: you can always run it under wine if you want
[06:27] <hmw> sobczyk: perhaps you can find a way to get the wallpaper stretch over 2 screens and make an accordingly larger one
[06:27] <inglor> polydeuces: not intentionally, by mistake...
[06:27] <red2kic> hmw: "sudo blkid" -- See if it recognize the filesystem (at least).
[06:27] <sobczyk> and is there a way to read both monitors setup? (x, y coordinates and width height)
[06:27] <inglor> polydeuces: if you don't want to mess with it too much you can always run it under wine
[06:27] <polydeuces> inglor: I haven't used wine yet, would I have to do it every time?
[06:27] <inglor> polydeuces: all wine does is translate directX and win32 commands to openGL , so it doesn't slow stuff
[06:27] <sobczyk> it would be possible to write a scipr using imagemgic to combine 2 wallpapers, if monitor position data could be obtained
[06:28] <red2kic> sobczyk: Write a script. :)  Personally, I find GIMP nice and easy to use.
[06:28] <inglor> it lets you run windows apps on linux without an emulator
[06:28] <David-A> hmw: if you use a rescue program that finds and copies individual files, will they fit in 250GB? (that is was the 1TB less than 25% full?)
[06:28] <inglor> (hence the name... Wine Is Not an Emulator)
[06:28] <hmw> lol. no. it was like 95% full...
[06:28] <polydeuces> Oh, neato. Hm, perhaps I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the advice!
[06:29] <hmw> i alredy swallowed the loss. just trying, perhaps I get lucky.
[06:29] <zch3> Does anyone know why I cant download " tor tor-geoipdb"  using the co'?mmand 'sudo apt-get install tor-geoipdb
[06:29] <inglor> polydeuces: just installed your dofus game in wine to see if it works and it works perfectly
[06:29] <red2kic> sobczyk: I don't know the correct way to retrieve x,y,blah,blah but "xrandr | grep \*" could do it. I'm not sure about the second monitor (or even if it's showing up in xrandr too).
[06:29] <inglor> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3395
[06:30] <David-A> hmw: so not much you can do until you have a new big disk? (unless you find a safe method of fixing faulty disk)
[06:30] <m00se> any ops around want to help out in ##windows please?
[06:30] <m00se> madman loose
[06:30] <m00se> no ops available
[06:30] <red2kic> m00se: See #freenode for support.
[06:30] <m00se> I have - in there now - no one awake
[06:31] <nomad77> hmw: i've restored partition tables before with testdisk. but ymmv
[06:31] <sobczyk> red2kic, ok i see xrandr displays "LCD connected 1600x900+0+0" and "CRT1 connected 1680x1050+1600+22" so it's easy to filter out the positions
[06:31] <polydeuces> good to know! thanks!
[06:31] <polydeuces> I used terminal to apt-get install wine, is that going to work OK?
[06:31] <sobczyk> red2kic, thx
[06:31] <inglor> polydeuces: might :) lemme check something else
[06:32] <inglor> polydeuces: yep, should
[06:32] <znxtch> Could anyone help me with the installation of Tor?
[06:32] <polydeuces> awesome, thanks!
[06:34] <proq> boblemur: yes, thanks.  I need X and I will be running ratpoison
[06:35] <David-A> hmw: 95% full means there might be fragmentation, so rescue programs that finds individual files has less chans of finding all files.
[06:36] <red2kic> hmw: NTFS?
[06:36] <hmw> David-A: since I only collected movies and didnt move/delete much stuff, i doubt it will be fragmented massively.  Making legal backup of your shiny movies you bought. Also, NTFS = Fragmentation. One of the good ways to corrupt the partition is to max out the hard drive. Just because you have 1TB does not mean you have 1TB... Very much less.
[06:39] <xiven> How come the tutorial for setting up polymer theme on ubuntuforums.com doesn't match the qt config program?
[06:39] <hmw> red2kic: indeed, i own most of the movies. I always rip them to divx after i found a cheap DVD in the store and never use the DVDs to watch them. sic!
[06:39] <spat> what is preferred apt or aptitude?
[06:39] <hmw> putting in disks is so stone age
[06:39] <lisa__> does anyone know how to look at files on a cd using ubuntu on a sun virtual box?
[06:40] <rww> spat: (assuming you mean apt-get) In Ubuntu, it shouldn't matter. Use whichever you prefer.
[06:40] <David-A> hmw: i must go and rest. the robots first link, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery , seems to me to have good info. hope it works out well for you.
[06:40] <red2kic> spat: It is more of preferences. apt or aptitude or synapthic or Ubuntu Software Center -- They all will get the job done.
[06:40] <hmw> spat: apt and aptitude are cool for the command line, aptitude also has some UI
[06:40] <lisa__> i know it's a stupid question
[06:40] <hmw> David-A thanks. Good night!
[06:40] <spat> hmw: I'm a server admin,,,
[06:41] <hmw> spat: it is a matter of taste, i'd say. Aptitude might make finding stuff easier, but you'd need to know the shortcuts.
[06:41] <spat> hmw: as long as they both work consistend and reliable
[06:41] <David-A> hmw: youre welcome, byebye
[06:41] <xiven> Do the developers leave any part of Gnome/KDE alone...
[06:42] <xiven> I keep finding all kinds of customizations within K/Ubuntu..
[06:43] <spat> hmw: Never had a problem learning shortcuts for a command often used. will give aptitude a try. Thank you
[06:43] <hmw> spat: i guess you will like aptitude. I prefer apt for my scripts for no real reason.
[06:45] <Alcor> hi
[06:45] <hmw> !hi | Alcor
[06:47] <Alcor> where can i find out data -- channel for rootkit?
[06:48] <Alcor> I use it in my ubunto box
[06:48] <nomad77> !rootkit > Alcor
[06:50] <nomad77> Alcor: i'd run chkrootkit and rootkithunter first
[06:50] <Alcor> sry nomad77 i run rkhunter
[06:52] <Tryptographer> hi; in lucid lynx with the default gui how I do I force the permanent remapping of the caps lock key to be another control key?
[06:52] <Tryptographer> er
[06:52] <Tryptographer> sorry
[06:52] <Tryptographer> Return key
[06:52] <Tryptographer> I meant that.
[06:52] <FloodBot1> Tryptographer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:52] <xiven> I bet if I got some people together to write a system like Ubuntu, without all the patches overriding Qt, and GTK stuff I could make a lot of money
[06:53] <xiven> Or, can you just write modifications which would change all of the patches so  the Ubuntu changes don't matter?
[06:53] <hmw> Tryptographer: check out http://harald.ist.org/self-pc/tricks/linux/howto/disable-menu-key.html
[06:54] <Tryptographer> hmw: I don't want to do that every time I switch the keyboard layout.
[06:54] <Alcor> my bad -- i am looking for data about rkhunter
[06:55] <chripher> hello
[06:55] <hmw> Tryptographer: i see... i have no idea, how you could achieve this
[06:55] <hmw> !hi | chripher
[06:56] <nomad77> Alcor: http://www.rootkit.nl/projects/rootkit_hunter.html  << projects homepage
[06:56] <mneptok> Tryptographer: Lucid questions belong in #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <Alcor> thx -- no channell?
[06:56] <chripher> I have a problem with the subversion guide for ubuntu
[06:56] <tomato> i just hooked up my gigabit switch to my ubuntu server and a dns323, i'm using rsync to copy files from the dns323 to my server but i'm only getting 10 MB/s, is this normal?
[06:56] <Tryptographer> mneptok: thank you
[06:57] <aetaric> tomato: 1GB/s is the maximum throughput. you will likely never actually get data going that fast
[06:58] <nomad77> Alcor: maybe #linux-security if one exists
[06:58] <chripher> hmv: can you help me?
[06:58] <mneptok> !ask | chripher
[06:58] <boblemur> chripher: whatn help to you need?
[06:58] <hmw> i dont know subversion really. and ...
[06:58] <hmw> !ask | chripher
[06:59] <Alcor> thx i hadnt found one - did find the home page...
[06:59] <chripher> anybody knows suberversion
[06:59] <mneptok> chripher: ask. the. question.
[06:59] <boblemur> chripher: ask you damn question
[07:00] <boblemur> your*
[07:00] <tomato> aetaric: that's gigabits per second right, not gigabytes?
[07:00] <aetaric> !language | boblemur
[07:00] <mneptok> boblemur: be polite.
[07:00] <boblemur> sorry :(
[07:00] <aetaric> tomato: yes.
[07:00] <hmw> i want a GByte/s HD
[07:00] <aetaric> hmw: try a SSD
[07:01] <clarkb> I dont think SSDs have that much throughput
[07:01] <clarkb> you'll need RAID without the I part
[07:01] <chripher> when I write "$ svn co http://hostname/svn/myproject myproject --username user_name"  it does not know my password
[07:01] <shazbotmcnasty> hmw, there is a raptor that apparently just came out with a 6Gb/s drive
[07:01] <shazbotmcnasty> but you also need a motherboard that supports it
[07:01] <aetaric> tomato: factors like system load and other network traffic will slow it down
[07:01] <tomato> aetaric: thanks, but isn't that like 122 megabytes/s? I'm only getting 10 MB/s so I'm wondering if i'm not configuring something correctly
[07:02] <tomato> aetaric: thanks, i'm also using cat5 cables instead of cat6, could that be it?
[07:02] <hmw> oh, wow, didnt know about that one, shazbotmcnasty. I was just thinking of that youtub vid "samsung ssd awesomeness"...
[07:02] <shazbotmcnasty> well you can google raptor, I just got an ad from newegg a few days ago for that hdd
[07:03] <aetaric> tomato: it is only in the standard, you could use cat3 really, they just want you to use cat6.
[07:03] <aetaric> it has "better quality wires"
[07:03] <tomato> gotcha, thanks
[07:03] <boblemur> chripher: what are you using to host your svn? and what is the message it gives you (if its not too long to paste that is)
[07:04] <chripher> localhost and I do not get any error it just asks again and again
[07:04] <tomato> aetaric so it's normal to get 10 megabytes per second instead of 100 megabytes per second? i was hoping for something around the middle, like 50 megabytes per second
[07:04] <aetaric> tomato: as a side note, i've never seen 1GB/s on my network and it is all Cisco catalyst equiptment.
[07:04] <boblemur> chripher: so why are you using http:// to connect to localhost? you can just use svn co /path/to/svn/repo
[07:05] <aetaric> tomato: well how many hosts are there on the switch?
[07:05] <tomato> yeah, i understand i won't be getting 100 megabytes per second, but i was hoping for half that
[07:05] <tomato> only 2, my nas (dns323) and my ubuntu server
[07:05] <aetaric> tomato: both have gigabit cards?
[07:05] <chripher> boblemur: I plan to setup svn on another server but I use localhost now
[07:05] <tomato> yeah, server has gigabit onboard (not sure if its any good) and the dns323 has it onboard too
[07:06] <Daemonic> I like tunafish
[07:06] <boblemur> chripher: ok, well will you have ssh for that server?
[07:06] <aetaric> tomato: not sure, it could just be that one of the systems has a high load.
[07:07] <boblemur> chripher: cause if you do... try svn+ssh://localhost/path/to/svn/repo
[07:07] <tomato> aetaric: okay thanks, that might be it, the dns323 is just a nas, might be overloaded
[07:08] <aetaric> tomato: no problem, glad i could put my CCNA to use for once.
[07:09] <TomG> aetaric: Sorry to interrupt.  I simply overheard it.  How hard was it to obtain CCNA?
[07:09] <chripher> boblemur: port refused
[07:09] <boblemur> chripher: do you have ssh installed?
[07:10] <aetaric> TomG: not really hard. i got it in high school...
[07:10] <chripher> boblemur: no at the moment I want http to work
[07:10] <TomG> aetaric: That's a bit reassuring.  Thank you for the answer.
[07:10] <clarkb> though the requirements change over time
[07:11] <clarkb> I think that matter for > CCNA
[07:11] <chripher> boblemur: what does htpasswd2 means it says in the guide "It prompts you to enter the password. You must enter the password configured using htpasswd2 command.
[07:11] <aetaric> TomG: no problem. i failed the exam the first time though...
[07:11] <boblemur> chripher: have you installed a webserver?
[07:11] <chripher> boblemur: "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion" the guide I use
[07:11] <chripher> boblemur: yes
[07:11] <aetaric> subnetting should be burned with a *VERY* hot fire
[07:12] <boblemur> chripher:ok so where abouts are you upto?
[07:12] <clarkb> aetaric: isnt subnetting what allowed ipv4 to last so long?
[07:12] <clarkb> that and NAT
[07:13] <chripher> boblemur: cat /etc/subversion/passwd givs me user_name:cj7E6cw77X8W6
[07:13] <TomG> clarkb: Do you think ipv4 should have lasted this long?
[07:13] <gonzalo> hello, I use ubuntu 9.10, I've installed Amarok 2 but when I play the songs I can't hear anything, any clue?
[07:13] <aetaric> clarkb: yes. but you have to subnet on the CCNA test, without a calc
[07:13] <clarkb> aetaric: its easy
[07:13] <clarkb> powers of two
[07:13] <boblemur> chripher: where in the guide did you get upto?
[07:14] <nomnex> how can I increase the font size on IM Empathy?
[07:14] <chripher> boblemur: just before Access via WebDAV protocol with SSL encryption (https://)
[07:14] <clarkb> TomG: good point
[07:14] <aetaric> clarkb: yeah now do it on ipv6. :)
[07:14] <aetaric> oh wait, you don't have to... <3 ipv6
[07:14] <boblemur> chripher: have u tried using file:/// ?
[07:15] <chripher> boblemur: yes it works
[07:15] <boblemur> chripher: ok and have you configured webdav?
[07:16] <boblemur> chripher: Access via WebDAV protocol (http://) have you done this section???
[07:16] <boblemur> tomg: does your sound work anywhere else?
[07:16] <aetaric> TomG: i recommend you visit http://cisco.netacad.net and find an academy.
[07:16] <boblemur> sorry wrong person
[07:16] <TomG> I was about to say
[07:16] <boblemur> gonzalo: does your sound work anywhere else
[07:16] <xiven> I know this is Ubuntu, but no one in Kubuntu will respond..QtConfig is missing Library Path rab..where did it go?
[07:17] <chripher> boblemur: yes I used the second conf from the guide
[07:17] <aetaric> xiven: qtconifg? what is this?
[07:17] <xiven> QtConfig
[07:17] <TomG> Thank you aetaric.  I have been interested in certifications
[07:17] <xiven> Ubuntu Certifications?????
[07:17] <boblemur> chripher: do you mean this??? Access via WebDAV protocol with SSL encryption (https://)
[07:17] <aetaric> TomG: no problem. i have a few in M$ too
[07:17] <TomG> xiven: Now we're talking :P
[07:18] <xiven> I didn't know there were any
[07:18] <aetaric> there are
[07:18] <TomG> There are
[07:18] <takumidesh> hello, is there a room for help with Wine that i could join?
[07:18] <xiven> Plus, I don't take cert tests that are free
[07:18] <xiven> #wine isn't it
[07:18] <aetaric> ubuntu's cert test isn't free
[07:18] <takumidesh> xiven: #wine is empty
[07:18] <xiven> Yeah, not many cert tests are
[07:18] <chripher> boblemur: I want to get it to work as above that title eg without ssl first
[07:18] <TomG> Anyone certified Ubuntu?
[07:18] <xiven> $wine-hq
[07:18] <aetaric> TomG: you can get ipv6 certified from ipv6.he.net too
[07:19] <boblemur> chripher: ok so does going to localhost:80 in your broweser work?
[07:19] <TomG> Too many certs.  I get overwhelmed thinking about it
[07:19] <xiven> Heh...there isn't many certifications at all for Web Designers.
[07:19] <xiven> I wouldn't mind becoming Java and PHP certified, but it costs too much
[07:19] <TomG> Really?
[07:19] <TomG> I thought there were tons
[07:19] <chripher> boblemur: It works!
[07:19] <aetaric> wow. we are all WAY off topic. and it's all my fault. XD
[07:19] <xiven> I haven't found many
[07:20] <xiven> Not by well known companies anyway
[07:20] <TomG> Yeah, we're off topic.  And it's late here
[07:20] <TomG> I better get going for the night
[07:20] <aetaric> it is early here..... 2:20 AM
[07:20] <TomG> Eastern, like me
[07:20] <TomG> Ohio
[07:20] <aetaric> Georgia
[07:21] <TomG> Aww, I was hoping for you to say Ohio too, then I could have asked for a job :P
[07:21] <boblemur> chripher: ok so that page is ok, it means your apache is up, so you run the htpassword command?
[07:21] <aetaric> TomG: i'm unemployed...
[07:21] <TomG> That's even worse
[07:21] <TomG> Now there's no way I can sleep
[07:21] <aetaric> all those certs. and no job.
[07:22] <chripher> boblemur: yeap I did
[07:22] <takumidesh> Anyone here able to help me with a problem I'm having with Wine?
[07:22] <clarkb> dont know until you ask
[07:22] <blkperl> takumidesh: its best to just say the problem :)
[07:22] <TomG> A problem with Wine?  Who ever heard of such a thing?
[07:22] <chripher> boblemur: I see the crypted pass when I cat the file
[07:22] <boblemur> chripher: and did you add yourself to the svn group?
[07:23] <chripher> boblemur: yes I think so they told me so first thing in the guide don't they
[07:23] <blkperl> the problem is your using svn and not git :P
[07:23] <aetaric> i'd really like it if my magsafe would magically start providing the full 85w again
[07:23] <boblemur> chripher: did you log out and log back in?
[07:23] <chripher> boblemur: yes and I restarted the machine this morning
[07:23] <aetaric> blkperl: i like SVN more. i can commit from XCode
[07:24] <takumidesh> alrighty, I am trying to install the game Starcraft via the battle.net downloader. I download the executable and it runs fine but when i try to select a directory to install it tells me that the 'path is invalid' and closes. no matter where i try to install it tells me this error.
[07:24] <boblemur> git is better :)
[07:24] <Alcor> aetaric check in with Telephone co.  They have a big useless info dept...  Show them all the certs you have...
[07:24] <blkperl> aetaric: that doesn't make sense, git works with everything
[07:24] <clarkb> takumidesh: SC2?
[07:25] <blkperl> oh does xcode not have git support?
[07:25] <blkperl> thats sucks
[07:25] <boblemur> chripher: hmmm ok, have you looked at the logs for apache and stuff?
[07:25] <hateball> !wine | takumidesh
[07:25] <TomG> takumidesh: Sounds like a wine issue.  There's probably not much anyone can help outside the Wine page.
[07:25] <takumidesh> clarkb: no the first one
[07:25] <chripher> boblemur: where to find
[07:25] <aetaric> Alcor: i have no datacenter experiance. so no one wants to hire me.
[07:25] <aetaric> chripher: /var/log/apache
[07:25] <boblemur> chripher: /var/log/
[07:25] <takumidesh> ubottu: Ok i will check that out, thanks.
[07:26] <clarkb> I didnt realize they had an download installer for SC
[07:26] <blkperl> aetaric: http://rudifa.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/git-xcode-and-projectlocker/
[07:26] <blkperl> git & xcode
[07:26] <clarkb> takumidesh: installing off disc works great
[07:26] <Alcor> aetaric they need all the help they can get..  Pay is not bad either
[07:27] <takumidesh> clarkb: For some reason when i install from the disc it tells me to insert a non-existent disc 2.
[07:27] <aetaric> blkperl: you might just be my new hero. and if AT&T hires me, Alcor might take your place.
[07:27] <Alcor> heh
[07:27] <TomG> takumidesh: Yes, that happens with half the games under wine.  They want disks that don't exist
[07:27] <boblemur> chripher: i suggest you open another terminal window... and run "tail -f /var/log/apache" and then try and login and see if any new messages appear
[07:27] <chripher> boblemur: access.log ?
[07:27] <aetaric> blkperl: that is a no go. it isn't integrated.
[07:28] <clarkb> takumidesh: it wants the brood war disc
[07:28] <boblemur> chripher: possible by most of them should be in apache
[07:28] <clarkb> give it that disc and all is well
[07:28] <TomG> takumidesh:  I'd say try doing a minimal install.
[07:28] <steven__> offtoicp
[07:28] <clarkb> no no no
[07:28] <clarkb> it wants the brood war disc
[07:28] <steven__> !off
[07:28] <aetaric> we really are.
[07:28] <aetaric> !ot
[07:28] <takumidesh> so is there anyway to not install brood war, i don't have the disc at the moment
[07:28] <clarkb> takumidesh: I couldnt figure it out
[07:29] <theadmin> takumidesh: Maybe you'll have to ask in #winehq
[07:29] <clarkb> but as soon as I fed it brood war all was great
[07:29] <blkperl> aetaric: then you need to ditch xcode and go with vim :P
[07:29] <theadmin> This ain't the place
[07:29] <gonzalo> boblemur, thanks for your help, but I've already solved the problem, I needed the mp3 suppor
[07:29] <clarkb> I think it does the same thing installing in windows
[07:29] <theadmin> wtf
[07:29] <puser> Hello, I can't figure out what happened. I get - ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted, when ping, also, my internet seems to be completley blocked. How do I revert it to default, so that my internet works again?
[07:29] <aetaric> blkperl: i rather like xcode. vim isn't an ide.
[07:30] <theadmin> papul|offline: Stop that random nickchanging, please
[07:30] <aetaric> puser: you aren't in the networking group, or you have a wire loose somewhere
[07:30] <boblemur> gonzalo: thats ok glad you got it fixed
[07:30] <aetaric> ]!nick | papul|offline
[07:31] <chripher> boblemur: I posted it in a pm
[07:31] <aetaric> wow. that really just made ubottu fail hard
[07:31] <lucas-arg> hello, when compiz is enabled, the gnome-panel keeps on front of openoffice presentations, how can i solve this besides disabling compiz?
[07:31] <blkperl> aetaric: just use git via the command line, it will still work with xcode, just means you have to use the terminal :P
[07:32] <boblemur> chripher: ok ill reply there
[07:32] <gonzalo> does somebody use Listen media player? is it necessary to install something additional in order to wikipedia and lyrics to work?
[07:32] <theadmin> lucas-arg: I'd report this as a bug. As a temporary solution, I'd enable panel autohiding
[07:32] <puser> aetaric: the cable is ok, it's a gprs modem. It connects, and it only started happening yesterday. I am a linux newbie, I might configured something by mistake, but don't remember what.
[07:32] <lucas-arg> theadmin: thanks
[07:33] <aetaric> blkperl: xcode has cvs and svn already. no point in opening another App when i am trying to find bugs on the current head.
[07:33] <drd> blkperl: there are some things you'll want to change in your git config to have certain files treated as binary (xibs, for instance, and the project file) otherwise resolving conflicts is a total PITA
[07:33] <clarkb> eww cvs
[07:34] <steven__> i makeing a new OS for Linux what do you all think sould be on it
[07:34] <aetaric> i dislike cvs as well
[07:34] <clarkb> steven__: you mean a distro?
[07:34] <theadmin> steven__: That is offtopic... And how are you making it? o_O
[07:34] <aetaric> !distro
[07:34] <steven__> with in C++/c
[07:34] <clarkb> hey Arch++ isnt on that list
[07:35] <theadmin> ubottu: RPM > theadmin
[07:35] <theadmin> ...hm
[07:35] <blkperl> aetaric: don't use cvs for the love of god don't use cvs :P
[07:35] <aetaric> theadmin: RedHat Package Manager
[07:35] <theadmin> And "yum" results in "Err, don't you mean !apt?" :D
[07:35] <aetaric> blkperl: i don't i use svn+ssh
[07:35] <aetaric> or is it ssh+svn
[07:35] <napster> #ubuntu+1 is down?
[07:35] <ZykoticK9> napster, no
[07:36] <aetaric> napster: a channel can't be down
[07:36] <blkperl> well hopefully one day xcode gets a plugin for git++
[07:36] <steven__> i thinking about add sub 7 to in what you all think
[07:36] <lucas-arg> do we have fingerprint support in lucid?
[07:36] <napster> ZykoticK9, aetaric I can't join that channel, /join returns chennel unavailable
[07:36] <s73v3r> So I had an install of 8.04, that I've upgraded using the tool to 9.10. Now, I'm unable to use mplayer to convert ac3 audio to wav
[07:36] <theadmin> napster: Works here...
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> napster, /join #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <drd> steven__: what?
[07:37] <napster> theadmin, ZykoticK9 Huh, now it works... Sorry for the trouble...
[07:37] <aetaric> napster: works for me. maybe you got banned?
[07:37] <aetaric> oh fair enough
[07:37] <napster> aetaric, No way, I do not spam ;-)
[07:38] <s73v3r> I've enabled the medibuntu repositories, and downloaded a new ffmpeg from there, but still no dice. I keep getting a "could not connect to socket" error
[07:38] <theadmin> How do I make alltray minimize the right window? :/ I have an app which opens 2 windows when ran, it minimizes the wrong one
 got to off toicp
[07:39] <rocket16> Friends, if I select a better theme such as GreenTea, for Metacity, will it take more memory than the original themes? (I suspect it is taking slightly more memory, since Nautlis's memory consumption increased for 2 MB)
[07:39] <theadmin> *huh* nevermind, it seems to work now o_O
[07:40] <drd> steven__: sorry too many # already
[07:41] <rocket16> Also, Nautilus is taking more than 110 MB memory (I want my 512 MB Old Laptop to run faster, so I disabled Graphical-Effects, AWN and no sign of Compiz. I even boosted Ubuntu, and suspended Beagle Desktop search, still it does not seem to run that fast)
[07:41] <steven__> tthat cool
[07:42] <rocket16> I heard the Nautilus takes less than 50 MB on people's PCs, but why is it taking so much memory in my case? I tried to kill and restart the process, but it is always nearly 110MB
[07:42] <steven__> drd: i makeing a new OS do you know some you like to have on it
[07:42] <clarkb> rocket16: sounds like you need something other than ubuntu + gnome
[07:42] <theadmin> steven__: Offtopic here, go to #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there :/
[07:43] <steven__> thank you
[07:43] <theadmin> rocket16: Yeah, you might wanna try Lubuntu when it's out or Xubuntu.
[07:43] <rocket16> clarkb: No, I would like to stick to GNOME, and Ubuntu, because I tried LXDE, Xfce and many others, (even other Distors), but none of them suites my needs
[07:44] <rocket16> theadmin: Sorry, but Ubuntu is my first and foremost preference, :( And I run Kubuntu on my 8GB Desktop
[07:44] <clarkb> rocket16: then  Isuggest a hardware upgrade
[07:44] <theadmin> rocket16: Then maybe use another filemanager?... Altough Nautilus is responsible for desktop icons :/
[07:44] <clarkb> theadmin: I dont think you can have gnome without nautilus
[07:45] <rocket16> theadmin: I tried PCMan and Thunar, but that rips the heart of GNOME, and makes it more Xfce like, :(
[07:45] <rocket16> theadmin: Also, I tried Openbox instead of Metacity, but OpenBox, though fast, is difficult to cope up with, :(
[07:45] <shreymech> can any one tell that .. is it good to install ubuntu in virtual machine or should i make a seperate partition...???
[07:46] <theadmin> shreymech: Separate partition is a better idea.
[07:46] <rocket16> All is working fine for me, just this Nautilus thing isn't, :( Anyway to reduce it's memory intake?
[07:46] <theadmin> I had trouble getting networking to work in virtualbox + interpid :/
[07:46] <shreymech> thradmin, okk sir
[07:46] <shreymech> gtheadmin,ok sir
[07:46] <rocket16> Also, I have only Ubuntu installed, on my 80 GB HD, (old laptop), so Swap is adequete too,
[07:46] <blkperl> theadmin: how do you have troble with networking in virtualbox?
[07:47] <theadmin> blkperl: Dunno, Network Manager is all just "Device unavailable"
[07:47] <blkperl> hmm its automatic for me, i always get networking in VB
[07:47] <boblemur> theadmin: try the Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop adapter
[07:48] <nomad77> theadmin: think you need the vbox guest-additions pkg
[07:48] <rocket16> !nautilus
[07:48] <theadmin> boblemur: Uh look i'm not asking how to solve it lolz I have Ubuntu installed the normal way... that were those days when I was just "trying it out"...
[07:48] <shreymech> and one more query... does a SEAGATE external hardisk USB powered is UBUNTU compatibble..???? i need to purchase a external harddisk (USB powered) for my laptop installed with ubuntu... can any one suggest me a good cpmany and model of a very good external harddisk...????? thanx
[07:48] <Conf> hey can someone help me, i just installed kubuntu on my 1000HE netbook and although I can see my wireless network I can't connect to it
[07:49] <erkan^> !adobeair
[07:49] <theadmin> shreymech: Have a seagate here, more then satisfied
[07:49] <clarkb> shreymech: I would be surprised if any USB mass storage device was not linux compatible
[07:49] <boblemur> theadmin: im running virtualbox and the only adapter that worked for my guest was that one all the others didnt :)
[07:49] <rocket16> I once decided to try out Puppy, but really, it is no match for Ubuntu. (Puppy is great, fast and light, but for day-to-day work, it isn't enough)
[07:49] <barbaric> ok, so I was playing with new plymouth themes.  Somehow that broke suspend (lucid 64).  any ideas?
[07:49] <shreymech> clarkb, ohkkkkkkk :) thanx
[07:49] <Flannel> barbaric: #ubuntu+1 for Lucid questions, thanks
[07:49] <rocket16> So, anybody, what is the normal memory usage by Nautilus?
[07:49] <shreymech> theadmin, hmm okkkk...... soo SEAGATE is the best i cud get... ?
[07:49] <clarkb> shreymech: just dont expect the software they ship to work (for backups etc)
[07:49] <boblemur> theadmin: but never mind i through u ment ubuntu was the host
[07:50] <rocket16> Mine is 110 MB, and it is extreme, :(
[07:50] <barbaric> whoops, sorry.  Thanks Flannel
[07:50] <shreymech> clarkb, yes they were claiming some softwares for automatic backups and that all.... any use..??
[07:50] <rocket16> !linuc | barbaric
[07:50] <theadmin> shreymech: Get anything
[07:50] <erkan^> Where can I install: Adobe Air? Because I have Ubuntu 9.10 64-bits
[07:51] <rocket16> Friends, any idea?
[07:51] <theadmin> what the heck O_O Metacity just restarted all of a sudden
[07:51] <shreymech> clarkb, i shud use it just like a storage device to store my data's .. copy and paste.. keeping it safe... !!! ???
[07:51] <rocket16> Is 110 MB for Nautilus normal
[07:51] <clarkb> shreymech: yup
[07:51] <theadmin> shreymech: Yes, the software they provide is mainly for Windows computers
[07:51] <clarkb> ubuntu should automagically mount it for you someplace like /media
[07:52] <clarkb> it may also be worth nuking the default ntfs partition it ships with...
[07:53] <theadmin> clarkb: ...why? Better windows compatibility
[07:53] <clarkb> theadmin: who needs that?
[07:53] <clarkb> theadmin: you get better linux compatibilty when you get rid of ntfs
[07:53] <dekroning> where in the latest ubuntu can i adjust the grub boot options ?
[07:53] <theadmin> clarkb: Well, I do, have to use Windows in some places I take that device to
[07:53] <clarkb> using a fs that understands perms properly etc is a good thing
[07:53] <straterra> Linux is very compatible with NTFS
[07:53] <theadmin> dekroning: startupmanager, install that
[07:53] <clarkb> straterra: sure, but perms break
[07:54] <theadmin> clarkb: Well, i nuked the original partition anyway, reformatted it the way I like it :D
[07:54] <rocket16> Oh! This Nautilus Memory consumption is a bug here!
[07:54] <straterra> Only if you dont knwo what you're doing
[07:54] <clarkb> (granted with a mobile usb device thats not a huge deal)
[07:54] <straterra> know^
[07:54] <clarkb> straterra: you can get ntfs to preserve *nix permissions?
[07:55] <theadmin> umasks and that kinda stuff
[07:55] <Conf> hey can someone help me, i just installed kubuntu on my 1000HE netbook and although I can see my wireless network I can't connect to it
[07:55] <new_sensacion> hola algun español¿
[07:55] <Flannel> !es | new_sensacion
[07:55] <new_sensacion> ok
[07:55] <blkperl> Conf: can't connect it what way? whats the error message?
[07:56] <Conf> it tries to connect and then just stops?
[07:56] <Conf> i dont get an error message
[07:56] <Conf> i think it believes the password is wrong? even though i know its right
[07:56] <blkperl> probably a bad driver?
[07:57] <Conf> where can i find the latest driver?
[07:58] <theadmin> Grah! Update Manager is one big zombie
[07:58] <aperson> can someone recommend a lightweight twitter client?
[07:58] <theadmin> I mean after i close it's window it's process just HANGS there :/
[07:58] <Conf> update manager? wont that need the internet
[07:58] <blkperl> Conf: dell/hp/<insert manufacturer name> support page
[07:58] <aperson> small-screen friendly is a plus
[07:58] <clarkb> w3m
[07:59] <Conf> ok ill have a look ty
[07:59] <theadmin> Conf: Uh, that wasn't a reply to your question, that was a question of my own
[07:59] <unimatrix> anyone know why my pulseaudio Sound Preferences don't wanna remember the selected profile? (I have to set it from stereo to 5.1 after every reboot)
[07:59] <dekroning> theadmin: btw is that grub 2 in the new ubuntu?
[07:59] <theadmin> dekroning: Yeah, it only appeared in karmic
[07:59] <red2kic> !grub2 | dekroning
[08:00] <dekroning> theadmin: k
[08:00] <aroni125> aperson: I use Gwibber to read Twitter. I haven't had the chance to use it for anything but reading yet.
[08:00] <erkan^> !tweetdeck
[08:00] <erkan^> !twitter
[08:01] <clarkb> wow w3m actually works quite well
[08:01] <clarkb> image support even
[08:01] <aperson> erkan^, /msg ubottu search twitter yields no results
[08:02] <erkan^> ok aperson
[08:02] <aperson> also, boo@ adobe air
[08:02] <ranjan> hi all....i have a linux machine with apache server installed...but the server is not accessible from a windows machine....any solutions??
[08:02] <erkan^> I have installed adobe air now. but I can not download tweetdeck, aperson
[08:02] <dekroning> i dont see a /etc/X/Xorg.conf file, where can i find Xorgs config?
[08:02] <s73v3r> does the version of mplayer in 9.10 support AC3 audio?
[08:03] <clarkb> dekroning: it may not exist. Newer versions of xorg go without by default
[08:03] <dekroning> clarkb: ahh oke, but there does it save config then? for instance i have my monitor screen rotated, and it seems to have saved that information
[08:03] <aperson> erkan^, I've used a few air apps way back on ubuntu
[08:03] <ejv> anybody here have information about linux software raid and hard drives, specifically concerning TLER?
[08:03] <aperson> I can't remember if the web install button ever worked though, erkan^
[08:04] <ejv> i have a drive that has failed, and need to replace it, but im not sure which are safe to use...
[08:04] <clarkb> dekroning: hmm I dont know then
[08:05] <erkan^> aperson: http://www.bauer-power.net/2009/05/getting-adobe-air-to-work-in-ubuntu-904.html
[08:05] <rocket16> Friends theadmin and clarkb, I figured it out! I had Nautilis-clamscan installed, and I removed it. Now the memory consumption of Nautilus got to 60 MB from 110 MB, :)
[08:05] <theadmin> o_O
[08:05] <rocket16> theadmin and clarkb, Thanks for your help though, :D
[08:06] <clarkb> antivirus?
[08:06] <upera> avast
[08:06] <aperson> erkan^, I don't care to use air, but thanks :)
[08:07] <erkan^> ok
[08:07] <rocket16> clarkb: Yes, :) One day, one of the .exe files in my System was infected, and since Linux is secure, (and it was .exe), it could not do harm. But on giving the game.exe to a friend of mine, a windows user, he got infected. So, I kept Antivirus here,
[08:08] <upera> avast4linux works
[08:08] <erkan^> on 28th April is avaible for new version on Ubuntu: 10.10, aperson
[08:09] <Flannel> erkan^: No, on the 29th 10.04 is going to be released.  10.10 won't be released until October
[08:09] <erkan^> ow sorry yes
[08:10] <Saudrapsmann> Hi, I need help... I have my notification area in my top panel, but the notifications end up an inch below the panel like in this picture: http://i41.tinypic.com/ngcbon.png  Can anyone help me place it directly under the panel without that space?
[08:11] <rocket16> upera: Yes, it does. But, in case of Avast, you need to scan manually, (you need to start avast every time), but Clam-scan is portable and is accessible from right-click-menu
[08:11] <geekphreak> rocket16: dude hello
[08:11] <aroni125> Saudra: Did another notification pop up before that one?
[08:11] <aperson> erkan^, thanks, I know :)  I've been using ubuntu since warty
[08:12] <erkan^> warty?
[08:12] <aroni125> Warty Warthog, an earlier version of ubuntu.
[08:12] <Saudrapsmann> aroni125: Nope, it's been this way for a while
[08:13] <Saudrapsmann> It seems like that's just the default place for the notification area on my desktop
[08:13] <erkan^> wow
[08:13] <Saudrapsmann> notification popup*
[08:13] <erkan^> that was 4.10
[08:13] <erkan^> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[08:13] <erkan^> interest :D
[08:13] <tarini> hi to all
[08:13] <brianherman> cool
[08:13] <brianherman> 4.10
[08:14] <blkperl> tarini: i think your looking for #helloworld :P
[08:14] <tarini> blkperl: i would like to be just polite ;)
[08:15] <smokex> network performance on 10.4 seems to be very slow...
[08:15] <smokex> atheros card
[08:16] <upera> tarini hi im polite
[08:17] <aroni125> smokex: It might be the driver. I've had performance problems with that card on Linux.
[08:18] <theadmin> ubottu: lucid | smokex
[08:18] <Saudrapsmann> I tried notification-properties and looked in gconf-editor, but they must have taken out notification-properties for Jaunty?
[08:18] <Saudrapsmann> err Karmic*
[08:18] <smokex> kk
[08:19] <Saudrapsmann> and apps -> notification-daemon only has one line "Theme - Standard"
[08:19] <chripher> boblemur: you there?
[08:21] <NetmanDH> Hi - i'm new to this - and i'm after a little ubuntu support - can anyone help?
[08:21] <theadmin> NetmanDH: Yep
[08:22] <quibbler> !ask | NemanDH
[08:24] <NetmanDH> I just took over an Ubuntu 8.10 server which has FatClients and how do i manage the users - iff i do AddUser they appear in passwd, but they can't log on...the server is in a bit of a mess!
[08:25] <geekphreak> NetmanDH: how are they trying to login ?
[08:26] <NetmanDH> via the client - this was all set up before i arrived.  Current users within the passwd file can log on, but no added ones!
[08:27] <geekphreak> NetmanDH: which client, putty?
[08:28] <dekroning> since i don't have a Xorg config, is there a way to dump the current Xorg config?
[08:29] <geekphreak> NetmanDH: which client, it could be using other mechanism
[08:29] <NetmanDH> No, ubuntu, they are fat clients running over the network.  Sorry if i'm not being too clear, i'm a windows network expert - not ubuntu.
[08:29] <geekphreak> no worries
[08:29] <blkperl> no bad flash, crashed my google chrome
[08:30] <geekphreak> NetmanDH: what kinda of server is it ?
[08:31] <NetmanDH> Ubuntu 8.10. there seems to be PAM authentication as well as LTSP and numerous other cr*p on there too.
[08:31] <NetmanDH> I don't want to do a nice reboot just yet, just in case it all goes pear-shaped!
[08:34] <murlidhar> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/52916/screenshot_1_fGP3wf.png ((( how to remove the universal access preference )))
[08:34] <murlidhar> i got that stupid icon ever since i changed the theme of the gdm :(
[08:35] <murlidhar> the icons comes in the Indicator Applet 0.3.6
[08:38] <TyanColte> anybody know why when i attempt to go into hibernate it says cannot find swap header?
[08:39] <Saudrapsmann> Okay I figured out that the space between the panel and most notifications are reserved for notifications like volume control, but how do I get them all in the same place? Gconf-editor proved useless
[08:39] <aroni125> Tyan: do you have a swap partition?
[08:40] <datune> Hello. After installing Ubuntu Server 10.04 Beta2, I tried running apt-get install vim-full, but get : E: Couldn't find package vim-full. All available repositories are uncommented. Do I have to add another repo?
[08:40] <Gryllida> TyanColte: maybe this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/313724/comments/6
[08:40] <TyanColte> yep, i just extended via the instructions on wubi's website
[08:40] <Peddy> Can I set a different wallpaper for each monitor with dual monitors?
[08:41] <rww> datune: Lucid/10.04 discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <datune> rww: Thanks.
[08:41] <rww> datune: I'm guessing you haven't done "sudo apt-get update", but if that doesn't work, ask the people over there :)
[08:41] <TyanColte> cuz before it said swapspace too small
[08:41] <datune> rww: of course I did that ;-)
[08:41] <rww> datune: you'd be surprised how many people don't :(
[08:41] <TyanColte> so i extended it and now it says swap header not found
[08:41] <datune> rww: I can imagine ;-)
[08:42] <TyanColte> Gryllida: and that bug gives no resolution
[08:43] <Xeross_> Can anyone put up a default ttyX.conf on a pastebin so I can restore mine and remove this autologin
[08:44] <Gryllida> TyanColte: sure thing, it is not fixed yet, I run out of ideas on whether it is possible to workaround your problem
[08:44] <aroni125> datune: vim-full doesn't exist in lucid's repository.
[08:44] <Gla> hey guys, I'd like to setup a proxy for port 800, so that wheneve connect to anything on port 800 it redirects me to a proxy server.  #1 what would I need to do on the client side, and #2 what would I need to do as the proxy server.
[08:45] <ezrafree> any ideas how to use vga font in eterm in ubuntu?
[08:45] <amos81> Xeross_: http://pastebin.org/158699
[08:45] <datune> aroni125: Hmm, bummer. Thanks for the info. I guess they will add it soon enough?!?
[08:45] <tony_mahoon> hey guys im trying to upgrade to desktop from server from 9.10
[08:45] <Xeross_> datune: Ah thanks
[08:45] <tony_mahoon> im getting weird errors when i do a sudo apt-get install gnome
[08:46] <rww> datune: vim-full is a transitional package for vim-gnome. Install vim-gnome instead
[08:46] <rww> tony_mahoon: you want ubuntu-desktop, not gnome.
[08:46] <Gryllida> tony_mahoon: pastebin them?
[08:46] <datune> rww: On Ubuntu SERVER, I need to isntqall vim-gnome?
[08:46] <tony_mahoon> rww: cheers mate, i knew there was a meta package, i just couldnt work out what it was called!
[08:46] <rww> datune: oh, vi-full, not vim-full, sorry. I'm an idiot :)
[08:46] <tony_mahoon> Gryllida: I think rww has solved my problem cheers anyway
[08:47] <Gryllida> tony_mahoon: ok
[08:47] <ezrafree> i'm trying to make it so the ANSI art in my epic theme will display properly
[08:47] <kumar-kle> can anybody help me with bundle script
[08:47] <Gryllida> kumar-kle, where are you running it aand what for
[08:47] <TyanColte> bump lol
[08:47] <NetmanDH> I have an Ubuntu 8.10 server where the people logon via Fat Clients (no HD).  They're all in the passwd file, but when i add another via adduser, they can't logon - any ideas.  There seems to be PAM authentication and LTSM as well as lots to other rubbish on there
[08:47] <rww> wait, no, you said vim-full
[08:47] <rafaelsoaresbr> Gla, do you mean a tranparent proxy?
[08:47] <azlon> how can i list my drives?
[08:48] <Gryllida> azlon: open Nautilus?
[08:48] <azlon> i tried df but it doesnt display all of my drives
[08:48] <Gryllida> hm
[08:48] <perhamlinux> ezrafree: try eterm -F vga
[08:48] <TyanColte> anybody know how to replace cube gears in compiz-fusion with another 3d image?
[08:48] <Gryllida> azlon, which ones does it noe show?
[08:48] <rww> datune: vim-full has been a transitional package for vim-gnome since hardy, and the versions before that had gnome-support built in. So yes, if you've been using vim-full, you should be using vim-gnome instead.
[08:48] <kumar-kle> what exactly bundle script is used for
[08:48] <azlon> Gryllida: im trying to grow my RAID and i just installed 2 more 1TB drives but I don't see them in the "df" list
[08:48] <datune> rww: Ok, thanks. I'll try that
[08:48] <Flannel> datune: on a CLI-only, you just want to install "vim"
[08:49] <Gryllida> azlon: tried reboot?
[08:49] <azlon> Gryllida: yep
[08:49] <rww> datune: there are also vim and vim-nox, which might be more suited to you.
[08:49] <datune> Flannel: Oh, thanks.
[08:49] <aroni125> azlon: mounted drives? mount
[08:49] <datune> rww: Indeed, that's what I was looking for.
[08:49] <dekroning> is there a way to install a older kernel version (ubuntu package one) in the latests ubuntu version? i need kernel version 2.6.24 (or older)
[08:49] <Gryllida> azlon: hm, what is df list and are there any other lists?
[08:50] <azlon> Gryllida: im stumbling through cat /proc/diskstats
[08:50] <Gryllida> azlon: aroni125 said to try to mount the disks
[08:51] <tripleb> is there an APE music player? how to compare APE and FLAC
[08:51] <azlon> Gryllida: hrmm... ok, how can i find them?
[08:51] <azlon> Gryllida: hold on... let me try a couple things
[08:52] <Gryllida> tripleb, 'how to compare APE and FLAC' -are these file formats or application names?
[08:52] <aroni125> mount by itself should list every mounted filesystem.
[08:52] <Gryllida> aroni125, how to do a mount?
[08:52] <manohar> how can i share my internet bandwidth to different programs?
[08:53] <perhamlinux> tripleb: you should compare them by size, both are lossless codecs, so no difference in quality
[08:53] <azlon> aroni125: ok, i see the drives... i think...
[08:53] <s73v3r> did something happen in 9.10 with regards to ac3 support and mplayer? I'm trying to convert an ac3 file into an m4a file
[08:53] <azlon> aroni125: sda and sdb
[08:53] <azlon> aroni125: looks like it just shifted all my other drives down 2 letters
[08:54] <perhamlinux> manohar: what do you mean exactly? your bandwidth is shared by default to all running processes
[08:54] <ezrafree> perhamlinux: i'm getting the error that: Eterm:  Error:  Unable to load font "vga".  Falling back on "fixed"
[08:54] <tripleb> is there an APE music player? how to compare APE and FLAC --- Thanks but I found it in Ubuntu forums AND Gryllida FLAC is a music file format. It is the lossless opensource file forrmat that I know of.  perhamlinux TY too. The link is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344331
[08:54] <perhamlinux> ezrafree: check out here<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:55] <manohar> perhamlinux: when i download anything other sites dont open
[08:55] <manohar> perhamlinux: when i download anything other sites dont open
[08:56] <perhamlinux> manohar: how about caping your download speed? are you using a download manager or firefox's default?
[08:57] <manohar> perhamlinux: firefox default
[08:57] <Gryllida> manohar, try firefox safe mode, will your issue remain?
[08:57] <Gryllida> manohar, Safe Mode (in supported Mozilla applications) is a good way to see if an add-on, theme or something else is causing a problem. Please see: http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Safe+Mode
[08:58] <david_brent> hi, im drawing with my tablet and gimp kinda lags while drawing the lines, i'm wondering are there any other apps i dont know about that support tablets and are nice for drawing painting (maybe alog the lines of corel painter) ?
[08:58] <perhamlinux> manohar: sudo apt-get install d4x , and then install flashgot addon for firefox
[08:58] <ezrafree> nice thank you perhamlinux, got it :)
[08:58] <manohar> perhamlinux: i have d4x already installed
[08:58] <gheddy_zarc> does Wicd replace Network Manager in 9.04 I installed it now NM is gone
[08:58] <perhamlinux> manohar: then you can download with D4x and use different speed schemes
[08:59] <perhamlinux> ezrafree: you're welcome ;)
[08:59] <semanticpc> how do i use find on a folder name with a space ?
[08:59] <hateball> semanticpc: -print0
[08:59] <aroni125> azlon: those device files are automatically generated, so the drives shifting device files is possible. Unformatted drives do not show up in df or mount. Are they formatted?
[09:00] <azlon> aroni125: formatting them now
[09:00] <manohar> perhamlinux: i use the same method for most downloads but when i update my system with update manager then too it takes all bandwidth
[09:00] <semanticpc> hateball: find -print() /folder name -name 'pattern' ?????
[09:02] <manohar> perhamlinux: it is not that downloads from firefox is causing problem. it is happening when i install through apt-get install. this also takes all bandwidth
[09:04] <the-erm> I seem  to be having problems locating a .img file for 9.10 that isn't NBR
[09:04] <the-erm> anyone have a url?
[09:04] <the-erm> I have a friend who'd like to have a live usb
[09:05] <nich> gilang
[09:05] <nexsja> the-erm, you can download unetbootin, that app will help you make a live usb
[09:05] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, find folder\ name ...
[09:05] <the-erm> what if he's running windows :)
[09:05] <the-erm> I guess I'll have him run the live CD.
[09:05] <the-erm> Then create the usb from there.
[09:05] <nexsja> the-erm, unetbootin is for windows/linux/max
[09:06] <nexsja> mac*
[09:06] <manohar> the-erm: live CD dont harm windows
[09:06] <nexsja> !unetbootin
[09:06] <semanticpc> avelldiroll: when i use it in a shell script
[09:06] <semanticpc> it doesnt work
[09:09] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, the probleme might be somewhere else then (i just tested it to be sure)
[09:10] <avelldiroll> *problem
[09:11] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, try to paste a simple use case of what you are trying to do ( http://ubuntu.pastebin.com )
[09:11] <user__> Hello
[09:11] <user__> i ve just bought an TL-WN31G wireless usb stick for connecting to a WPA network.
[09:12] <user__> I have then tried to connect via network manager which did not work. i m now trying to connect directly through wpa_supplicant which always says: Association request to the driver failed
[09:12] <semanticpc> avelldiroll:  for i in $(find /home/pcr/Original\ Programs/AMROC  -name '*.C') ; do
[09:12] <user__> Have you any clue where to look for problems?
[09:13] <user__> I ve copied the wpa_supplicant configuration from a working computer.
[09:13] <manohar> Gryllida: safe mode in firefox is also not helping me out
[09:13] <perhamlinux> manohar: are you downloading using d4x?
[09:14] <manohar> perhamlinux: i download most of the stuff using D$x
[09:14] <AnActivist> hello I want have a project in mind but I'm not really sure where to start: basically I want to mimic a super basic version of linux with the Linux kernel <IP_ADDRESS>, glibc-2.3.5 and gcc-3.3.6 and a shell to interact with, all I want to do is explore the kernel, is it possible for me to build this type of enviroment with VM-ware or is there any other way?
[09:15] <azlon> aroni125: finally got everything i needed. RAID is growing now. thanks!
[09:15] <hateball> !ot | AnActivist
[09:15] <perhamlinux> manohar: then you can use Options -> Speed to set speed limit on your downloads
[09:15] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, not a solution for your question ... but have you considered find ... -exec ...  ?
[09:16] <manohar> perhamlinux: but i have problem when i update packages using update manager or i also hav problem when installing softwares using apt-get install command
[09:16] <manohar> i download by limiting my speed in dx4
[09:16] <nich> hxlkhjahjsh
[09:16] <nich> gvkashjsh
[09:16] <nich> gfjsdjkgf
[09:17] <nich> bdvkl
[09:17] <nich> fvnkl
[09:17] <nich> dbf
[09:17] <nich> ,kkk
[09:17] <FloodBot1> nich: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <nich> llll
[09:17] <perhamlinux> manohar: I know what you're after, but I couldn't find it myslef when I needed it. let me search a bit more
[09:18] <manohar> perhamlinux: thanx for the help so far. okz.
[09:18] <chripher> hi igot problem with this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[09:19] <semanticpc> avelldiroll:  i just want to loop through the folder home/pcr/Original\ Programs/AMROC and find all .C files .....
[09:19] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, and what do you want to do with them (after the "do" instruction)?
[09:20] <semanticpc> avelldiroll:  i need to pass each file name as an input to one of my script ..... like "myscript.py $file"
[09:20] <perhamlinux> manohar: this page is good: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html , but still none of the programs there are able to manage bandwidth. try forum, I guess you can find more opinions there
[09:21] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, then : find path\ name -name "*.C" -exec myscript.py {} \;
[09:22] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, the end  ({} \;) is mandatory
[09:23] <semanticpc> avelldiroll: i did think of that ... but need to run a bunch of scripts .... i think ill use the same for all the scripts
[09:23] <felixM> does anyone of you know what "association request to the driver failed" means and what it causes
[09:23] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, then : find path\ name -name "*.C" -exec myscript.py {} ; otherscrip.py {} ; yetanother.py {} \;
[09:24] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, if i unterstand correctly what you mean ...
[09:24] <chripher> hi igot problem with this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[09:25] <avelldiroll> felixM, try giving a little more context
[09:25] <manohar> perhamlinux: thanx for d link. checkin it out.
[09:25] <semanticpc> avelldiroll: got it thanks ..... just one last thing i would like to redirect the output to a file for each iteration ..... is it possible
[09:26] <avelldiroll> chripher, it would be easier to give an answer if you point out exactly what your problem is with this guide
[09:26] <the-erm> nexsja thanks for telling me about unetbootin
[09:26] <the-erm> it works.
[09:26] <chripher> avelldiroll: Access via WebDAV protocol (http://)
[09:27] <chripher> avelldiroll: it does not accept my password
[09:27] <chripher> avelldiroll: I see the password encrypted in the passwd file
[09:28] <avelldiroll> semanticpc, try adding a >> {}.log after each script ... but it might not work ...
[09:28] <felixM> avelldiroll: trying to establish a connection to a WPA network, using a TP-LINK WN321G. When trying to associate via wpa_supplicant, i get this message. Before i tried network manager in gnome which didnt work either
[09:30] <avelldiroll> felipe_, is your TP-LINK recognize? could you give it's usbID (using lsusb in a terminal) it easier to get some info its to series of number : xxxx:xxxx
[09:30] <avelldiroll> sorry felipe_ tab fail ... i meant felixM
[09:30] <semanticpc> avelldiroll:  i did ... it just creates one single file for all the outputs
[09:30] <felixM> avelldiroll: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 148f:2573 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2501USB Wireless Adapter
[09:31] <felixM> avelldiroll: configuration of wpa_supplicant should work. copied it from another working machine.
[09:32] <avelldiroll> felixM, with the same wifi usb?
[09:32] <felixM> avelldiroll: no
[09:32] <manohar> ferhamlinux: all the tools are for monitoring but i want to share bandwidth
[09:33] <perhamlinux> felixM: maybe this interests you : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/37821
[09:34] <perhamlinux> manohar: try posting in ubuntuforums.org and see if anyone can come up with a suggestion. I'm out of ideas!
[09:34] <manohar> perhamlinux: thanx.
[09:35] <perhamlinux> manohar: you're welcome
[09:37] <kriss> helo
[09:37] <kriss> hi
[09:37] <perhamlinux> kriss: hi
[09:38] <slckb0y> hi everyone :) is someone running KDE in a virtualbox under win7 ? :) i can't seem to use OpenGL for desktop effect even if i installed guest additions :/
[09:38] <chripher> avelldiroll: did you get my  problem
[09:39] <datune> rww: Thanks again!
[09:39] <avelldiroll> chripher, I don't see where the problem is in the instructions ... sorry
[09:40] <Oer> slckb0y, Vbox does not support 3d
[09:40] <Oer> only software rendering
[09:40] <chripher> avelldiroll: when I try to checkout it does not accept my pass
[09:40] <slckb0y> it does since sometimes already, it work with compiz and quake, just not with KDE destop effect in fact
[09:40] <felixM> perhamlinux: thanks, but i dont think thats my kind of problem because i cant get a connection at all.
[09:41] <Oer> oh here it does not :(
[09:41] <perhamlinux> felixM: have you tried wicd?
[09:41] <avelldiroll> chripher, did you try using htpasswd2 instead of  htpasswd  to create them ? (not sure if that would change anything though)
[09:41] <felixM> perhamlinux: not yet, trying now
[09:42] <pjfry1> I tried using xvidcap and it works but the colors are messed up, is there a way to fix this
[09:42] <chripher> avelldiroll: what is htpasswd2?
[09:43] <avelldiroll> chripher, htpasswd2 is htpasswd for apache2 ... i beleive
[09:43] <chripher> ah
[09:45] <chripher> so should I write htpasswd2 when I crearte ? eg sudo htpasswd2 -c /etc/subversion/passwd user_name
[09:45] <avelldiroll> chripher, that's what i would suggest, yes
[09:46] <chripher> avelldiroll: why does not the guide say so then
[09:46] <avelldiroll> chripher, because it's a work in progress :)
[09:47] <chripher> avelldiroll: sudo: htpasswd2: command not found
[09:49] <geekphreak> chripher:  for setting htaccess and htpasswd?
[09:49] <chripher> ???
[09:50] <geekphreak> chripher:  in regards to your above htpasswd2 : command not found emssage
[09:50] <avelldiroll> chripher, my mistake ... htpasswd2 became htpasswd when apache2 became default
[09:50] <chripher> ah
[09:51] <chripher> avelldiroll: so we still have same problem
[09:51] <avelldiroll> chripher, so your problem is probably somewhere else
[09:52] <chripher> avelldiroll: when i cat the passwd I see encryptd passes but I can not checkout through http
[09:54] <nikxxbari> ciao
[09:54] <avelldiroll> chripher, what is the error message when you do a : svn co http://url project --username user_name     ?
[09:54] <chripher> none it just ask again
[09:55] <johndooe> where to register a login and password to automatically log on freenode, I use IRSSI
[09:56] <chripher> avelldiroll: like if i misspelled the pass
[09:56] <geekphreak> !register | johndooe
[09:56] <avelldiroll> chripher, from the wiki guide : "If you encounter acces denied, please remember to logout and login again for your memebership of the subversion user-group to take effect. "   did you do that ?
[09:57] <chripher> avelldiroll: done that a lot of time
[09:59] <pjfry1> I used xvidcap and it seems to work, but the colors are not at all right -- is there a way to fix this?
[09:59] <tiger3723> alllo
[10:01] <chripher> avelldiroll: afk for 10
[10:01] <waaaradadfad> hollla
[10:01] <waaaradadfad> hay alguien
[10:02] <waaaradadfad> holla
[10:02] <waaaradadfad> hi
[10:02] <waaaradadfad> is anyone there???
[10:03] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi Guys.....quick question.....I have apache2 installed as I am running a webserver. WHen I look in system processes how many 'Apache2' instances should be running?
[10:03] <G_A_C> depends on the webserver load IIRC
[10:03] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: look in the apache config, it's normally about 5 for a non-busy server
[10:04] <G_A_C> by default I think it's something like one for every connection and 5 spare
[10:04] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: the config file tells you how many to start at boot time
[10:04] <chripher> avelldiroll: back
[10:04] <Jimi_Neutral> I see because I have many running and many sleeping and this thing aint even live yet apart from on our internal network
[10:04] <chripher> avelldiroll: yes I have logged out and in
[10:04] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: that's fine
[10:04] <nexsja> hello, i've got a small issue with c/c++ compiler here. I've installed build-essential and libc6-dev, and whenever i try to compile by code it says that iostream/stdio is missing, though locate says that it's in this /usr/include/c++/4.4/iostream dir
[10:05] <ikonia> nexsja: look at the path's in your code to the includes
[10:05] <avelldiroll> chripher, i reread the wiki and did not find any problem ... i did not have time to test it though ...
[10:05] <Jimi_Neutral> ikonia, also my CPU is running at 99% near on. I noticed it when i tried to check the website this morning nothing loaded, well ti did but took ages, checked the sys monitor and the cpu is at 99%
[10:05] <nexsja> ikonia, i have to supply the paths? i though i can just use #include <iostream> and it will work.
[10:05] <chripher> avelldiroll: oaky
[10:05] <geekphreak> ikonia: howdy :)
[10:05] <chripher> avelldiroll: do you know the writer
[10:05] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: see what is using up the cpu
[10:05] <nexsja> ikonia, i need to do #include </usr/include/c++/4.4/iostream> ?
[10:05] <ikonia> nexsja: depends on how your development environment is setup
[10:05] <Jimi_Neutral> ikonia, how can i see what is specifically using it
[10:06] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: a tool such as "top" can be useful
[10:06] <nexsja> ikonia, i guess it's not set up at all :/ could you guide me a bit here?
[10:06] <ikonia> Jimi_Neutral: what version of ubuntu are you running
[10:06] <Jimi_Neutral> ikonia, damn now its dropped right down...thats just weird. Ok I will look for that tool...and im running karmic
[10:06] <geekphreak> nevermind
[10:06] <avelldiroll> chripher, no ... i will test it on a vm when i'll go back home tonight
[10:06] <manohar> i am having problem installing skype in my Ubuntu 8.04
[10:06] <manohar> it shows error..
[10:07] <ikonia> nexsja:  you can set your environment up as you wish, it's not something that's set in stone
[10:07] <chripher> avelldiroll: thanks but I need it to work now
[10:07] <avelldiroll> chripher, in the mean time i can only advise to check for typos .... sorry
[10:08] <chripher> avelldiroll: done I followed this guide 3 times over still same error
[10:09] <manohar> please help installing skype
[10:09] <manohar> it is showing following error http://pastie.org/926779
[10:10] <ikonia> !skype | manohar
[10:11] <WXZ> how do I find the free remaining space on my partition
[10:11] <WXZ> it says I have 5.8 gigs left
[10:11] <WXZ> but when I right-click + properties it says I have over 10.1 gigs of files (the partition is only 10 gigs)
[10:12] <geekphreak> ikonia:  you seen any grub issues with grubs being washed of automaticly?
[10:12] <ikonia> washed ?
[10:13] <geekphreak> ikonia: yep keep going back to windows loader , dual boot system
[10:13] <geekphreak> ubuntu boolotloader will be taken of on ubuntu 9.10 grub2
[10:15] <nexsja> ikonia, mm... you mean IDE? My IDE here is nano :>
[10:15] <geekphreak> guess not
[10:16] <jfoozie420> hello, can anyone tell refer a download manager that can atleast go par for par with IDM?
[10:16] <jfoozie420> "refer
[10:17] <bronto2> jfoozie420, whats IDM?
[10:17] <jfoozie420> my bad for my english, for some reason im nicaraguan for the day and can't do grammar for sh*z
[10:17] <jfoozie420> internet download manager
[10:17] <geekphreak> bronto2: its a windows download manager internet download manager
[10:18] <bronto2> jfoozie420, what i do is a series of wget commands ...
[10:18] <mogi> #ubuntu-ko
[10:18] <ikonia> nexsja: no I don't mean ide
[10:19] <ikonia> geekphreak: never seen it just dissapear, I've seen windows overwrite it. try re-applying it, or making sure you're booting off the drive with grub on
[10:19] <jfoozie420> yeah, for some reason wget is turtling up my band wagon, how do i put it up to speed??
[10:19] <bullgard4> How can I debug Empathy? man empathy: "ENVIRONMENT: EMPATHY_LOGFILE=filename. If set, debug output will go to the given file rather than to stderr." How can I set 'EMPATHY_LOGFILE=<filename>'?
[10:19] <geekphreak> ikonia: i did basic troubleshooting, person was not reinstalling windows , but he had to  retore it like a lot of times
[10:19] <ikonia> geekphreak: then that would be the problem
[10:20] <geekphreak> as soon as he would reboot, mostly grub would be taken off was wierd
[10:20] <jfoozie420> bronto2: i can go over 2 mb/s when i use IDM with windows, hell the only problem is my chances of getting a virus. I'd rather download with an OS that i trust, but im an imaptient guy when it comes to speed
[10:20] <ikonia> geekphreak: nah, that's expected
[10:20] <bronto2> jfoozie420, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=526232
[10:20] <geekphreak> oh ok
[10:21] <bronto2> jfoozie420, i could easily saturate my connection with wget, so i dont know what could be a problem, btw
[10:23] <jfoozie420> bronto2: hey how do i accellerate my server list from software sources??? it's been dam slow, i had to switch to NZ's servers to get it to atleast 200 kb/s when i usually download at 2 mb/s
[10:23] <geekphreak> woohoo fixed my coredump error :)
[10:23] <manohar> http://pastie.org/926779 how to solve this problem in skype?
[10:25] <ikonia> manohar: it means it can't install the dependencies it wants to use, which probably means you're trying to use a version thats not compatible with your OS
[10:25] <ikonia> manohar: what instructions are you following to install skype ?
[10:25] <Oer> jfoozie420, it all depends on the availability of free servers
[10:26] <jfoozie420> 4sure then, ima have to play around and figure this thing out
[10:26] <manohar> ikonia: sudo apt-get install skype
[10:27] <jfoozie420> dam, tomorrow ubuntu turns into uBLUNTu....so light one up linux brotha's!!!!!!!
[10:27] <ikonia> manohar:  - no what instructions are you using to install skype
[10:27] <manohar> ikonia: how to fix that dependency ?
[10:27] <ikonia> manohar: no - what instructions are you using to install skype
[10:27] <manohar> ikonia: i dint get ur question?
[10:27] <ikonia> manohar: what instructions are you following to install skype
[10:29] <manohar> ikonia: i added the skype repository in sources.list and updated it then gave the above command.
[10:30] <ikonia> manohar: who told you to do that / what instructions are you following
[10:30] <manohar> ikonia: i am getting problem installing using synaptic too
[10:30] <ikonia> manohar: who told you to do that / what instructions are you following
[10:30] <manohar> ikonia: tell me how to install skype then?
[10:30] <pro> anyone else notice that they screwed up the squid?
[10:30] <ikonia> manohar: who told you to do that / what instructions are you following
[10:30] <manohar> i will follow ur instructions
[10:31] <ikonia> manohar: just tell me what instructions / guide you're following
[10:31] <pro> the permissions are wrong on the errors files
[10:31] <manohar> i searched in the internet
[10:31] <ikonia> manohar: yes, and which guide are you using from the internet
[10:31] <manohar> i had installed it before too
[10:32] <manohar> it was working
[10:32] <timeless_mbp> i loaded https://launchpad.net/nspluginwrapper and clicked the link for 'homepage' and got an error message
[10:32] <timeless_mbp> is that expected?
[10:32] <ikonia> manohar: ok - I'm going to stop responding now as you don't seem to be able to answer my questions
[10:32] <manohar> but after reinstalling ubuntu. now i am getting the problem
[10:33] <nilsma> can anyone offer help with fstab? i can access my external usb hd from one user, but i cant from another user (it is vfat formatted).
[10:33] <manohar> ikonia: actually i dont remember which link in internet i used.
[10:33] <ikonia> nilsma: vfat holds no permissions so when it's mounted it's mounted as that user's permissions
[10:34] <jfoozie420> manohar: lets start from the beginning did you download skype from its main site
[10:34] <jfoozie420> ?
[10:34] <manohar> nope
[10:35] <nilsma> ikonia: yes, i found that when trying to give permissions, unfortunately reformatting is not an option - how should i go about being able to read/write/exe my usb hd from the "other user"?
[10:35] <manohar> i am using ubuntu 8.04
[10:35] <jfoozie420> do that first
[10:35] <temba> Hello, i have a problem on a server running ubuntu 6.06 lts. clamav shows errors on starting up in the console= LibClamAV Error: Can't load /tmp/clamav-b2931dda4e9ba47a/daily.ndb: Malformed database. How can i update on consol eto a "newer" Version? gotta ask here cause i come from gentoo linux. can i do a "apt-get inbstall clamav  <versionnumber?>
[10:35] <manohar> and i the main site it has versions for 8.10+
[10:36] <manohar> so should i download it?
[10:36] <jfoozie420> manohar: yes
[10:36] <miZ--> anyone have a tutorial on installing ssl certificates - i generated mine then they sent one back -- now im lost
[10:36] <manohar> ok let me do that
[10:37] <nilsma> ikonia: is it simply a matter of umount from user1 and then mount again from user2?
[10:37] <hateball> miZ--: For what application? Apache?
[10:37] <jfoozie420> manohar: it says it's for the LTS but let see if its complatible
[10:38] <jfoozie420> manohar: if it doesn't work we'll do it in another approach
[10:38] <manohar> can we use another approach first. coz i tried that and it dint work
[10:39] <jfoozie420> manohar: lets try this, add this to the terminal sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[10:39] <jfoozie420> <sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/feisty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list>
[10:40] <nilsma> can anyone offer help with fstab? i can access my external usb hd from one user, but i cant from another user (it is vfat formatted).
[10:40] <jfoozie420> then <wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update>
[10:40] <miZ--> apach2
[10:40] <miZ--> hateball: apache2
[10:41] <pro> fixed it, i know what they fucked up... and its going to fuck up a lot of things too... stupid typo they made in a script....
[10:41] <pro> anyway, good luck with that
[10:41] <manohar> jfoozie420: please wait... i am doing..
[10:42] <ikonia> nilsma: the user would have to umount it (or root) then the other user mount it
[10:42] <dirk_> gday, what would be better to set up a new computer with today, 9.10 or the new beta2?
[10:42] <hateball> miZ--: usually the CA has instructions on their site for it, like #4 on here http://www.digicert.com/ssl-certificate-installation-apache.htm
[10:42] <jfoozie420> manohar: no no, don't jack off now, i got a class in the morning
[10:42] <ikonia> nilsma: vfat isn't meant to be shared like that, however you could put group read/write permissions on it at mount time
[10:42] <ikonia> dirk_: 9.10
[10:43] <nilsma> ikonia: how would i do that? i was under the impression that i should do that in /etc/fstab
[10:43] <miZ--> thanks
[10:43] <jfoozie420> manohar: lol its a joke, try this <http://divyad.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/install-skype-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-configure-sound/>
[10:43] <nilsma> ikonia: "do that": put group read/write permissions on it at mount time
[10:43] <ikonia> nilsma: that's a good call
[10:43] <ikonia> nilsma: fstab will do it fine
[10:43] <manohar> jfoozie240: i think the link says fiesty but i hav hardy
[10:44] <dirk_> kay,  thx. so the upgrade in about a week is not a struggle at all ikonia?
[10:44] <jfoozie420> ok then check this linkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778691
[10:44] <jfoozie420> my bad http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778691
[10:44] <jfoozie420> manohar: this link is hardy http://divyad.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/install-skype-on-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-configure-sound/
[10:45] <nilsma> ikonia: i tried adding this line: "/dev/sdc1	/media/My Book	vfat	rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,users	0	2" however i get an error message when using $ mount -a that says "[mntent]: line 16 in /etc/fstab is bad"
[10:45] <geekphreak> ikonia: thanks again for your help
[10:45] <ikonia> geekphreak: with what ?
[10:45] <geekphreak> with that grub issue lol
[10:46] <ikonia> nilsma: do a quick google for ubuntu vfat permissions and you'll see some example fstab options
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[10:46] <jfoozie420> it should kill your problem, if it doesn't help then i have failed, and i will be 4ever called a loser.
[10:46] <nilsma> ikonia: oki, thanks, i will try googling some more then :)
[10:46] <jfoozie420> ActionParsnip: yodiggity
[10:47] <manohar> jfoozie420: following the link and downloading
[10:47] <jfoozie420> manohar: goodluck with it homie
[10:48] <geekphreak> jfoozie420: you tried to help, thats what matter, thank you :)
[10:48] <manohar> jfoozie420: thanx let me try... if it works
[10:48] <geekphreak> manohar: good luck
[10:49] <jfoozie420> geekphreak: thanks for the support, now i don't feel like a loser.
[10:49] <jfoozie420> lol, im just messin
[10:49] <manohar> geekphreak: thanx too
[10:49] <geekphreak> jfoozie420: its all good bud
[10:49] <Peddy> Can I set a different wallpaper for each monitor with dual monitors?
[10:50] <jfoozie420> geekphreak: lol thanks for forgiving me!
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> peddy. Just stitch 2 images together to span the size of the whole desktop
[10:51] <Peddy> ActionParsnip, is there an automated or easier way to do this?
[10:51] <Peddy> (it's what I'm currently doing)
[10:52] <rocket16> Hello, when I try compiling Wesnoth 1.8, it shows a message that SDL11 can't be detected. And it also asks me to install SDL11 from www.libsdl.org, and I installed the .rpm package, since no source or .deb was provided. What to do?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: not sure, I don't use dual monitors. You could if you had 2 seperate x servers but the large image in my view is far easier
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: ubuntu doesn't use rpm
[10:52] <rocket16> Also, it shows the message "checking for sdl11-config... no
[10:52] <rocket16> configure: error: *** SDL not found! Get SDL from www.libsdl.org."
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: its not working because you used the rpm. Find a deb file or a ppa to install the dep
[10:53] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: I know, it uses .deb, but read my words, they say that nothing like .deb or source was there.
[10:53] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: That is known to me, so Iam thinking of using alien to build the deb
[10:54] <geekphreak> rocket16: sudo apt-get install libsdl-dev!
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: just because its not on the site doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[10:54] <rocket16> geekphreak: Lol, did that already, but it did not work,
[10:54] <geekphreak> oh ok
[10:54] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: I have seen the entire Internet, and even the SDL developers told me, that they don't exist.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: alien is really not advised. Find a ppa or deb online. You may even find a ppa for wesnoth, or one may be on getdeb
[10:55] <Termana> HA!
[10:55] <Termana> Hes "seen the entire internet"
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: then you will need to compile libsdl
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !find libsdl
[10:55] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: lol, what are you saying? There is no .deb yet for Wesnoth 1.8,
[10:56] <Peddy2> ActionParsnip, disconnected (thanks New Zealand internet), did you reply?
[10:56] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Also, I know I need to compile it, but the source is not available for sdl11-config,
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: there are some sdl packages on the repo which may give you what you need
[10:56] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: I installed them all, no result
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: if you had 2 x servers you could set seperate wallpapers but a combined image is far easier in my eyes
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: have you checked getdeb for a wesnoth deb?
[10:58] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Yes, the older ones are available.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: you could contact them and ask how they made it
[10:59] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Sorry, but making the previous version are different. The previous versions of Wesnoth did not need all SDL libraries,
[10:59] <colorlessprism> what is a good highly compressed backup option?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: I see
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !backup | colorlessprism
[11:00] <colorlessprism> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:01] <colorlessprism> !cloning
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25228&start=15
[11:02] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Lol, thanks, but that is for Wesnoth 1.6.1, at least 2 years older,
[11:02] <jfoozie420> ey someone help me turn off IPv6 for ubuntu
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Rocket16: I'm just going by what you said. That 1.6
[11:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> What do I put on the end of a command to have it completely backgrounded? was it 2>&1?
[11:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> ActionParsnip: hey!
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Jfoozie42: you can disable it in /etc/default/grub if you use grub2
[11:03] <hateball> SpaceGhostC2C: "command &" will run it in background
[11:03] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: But I said 1.8, anyway. Thanks for the help. I am searching for a source, and let me compile it.
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Spaceghostc2c: howdy
[11:03] <kyxzme> hey
[11:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> ActionParsnip: been a while. Can I pm you a question?
[11:03] <kyxzme> do you know there is no way to use Workspaces in 10.04?
[11:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> kyxzme: #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <Yum> Bom Dia! / Good Morning!
[11:04] <Peddy2> ActionParsnip, if I did 2 seperate X servers, would the monitors be able to interact with each other?..
[11:04] <jfoozie420> anyone know how to turn off IPv6??
[11:04] <kyxzme> thanks
[11:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> jfoozie420: ActionParsnip told you how.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Peddy: not sure, I guess so
[11:04] <Peddy2> Thanks ActionParsnip, I'll give it a go...
[11:04] <jfoozie420> my bad, didn't see that
[11:05] <jfoozie420> thankU!
[11:05] <Lazy^> Hi, i've got problem with apt-get / aptitude / synaptic. It gives error E: unable to use munmap. I've tried apt-get clean ect, but the problem continues.
[11:06] <Vishal> any body knows openfiler nas box
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Lazy^: is you hdd an ssd?
[11:10] <Lazy^> ActionParsnip: noup
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Ok
[11:11] <Lazy^> any clue, i haven't seen this error ever... and it seems that it's not a bug or anything