[00:00] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, I presume you mean on the server.
[00:00] <TJ-> sudormrf: That sounds like, on the remote system, the client's entry in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys as a command prefix, such as "sleep XXXX ..."
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: yup
[00:00] <sudormrf> hmm.  let me look.
[00:00] <TJ-> sudormrf: s/as a/has a/
[00:01] <sudormrf> TJ-, the only thing I see in ~/.ssh is known_hosts.
[00:01] <sudormrf> let me have a look at that file
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: have you modified ANY of the .files in your $HOME ?
[00:02] <Anuska> HI, if i add this manual:
[00:02] <Anuska> sudo mount -t cifs //myserver_ip_address/myshare ~/mnt -o username=samb_user,noexec
[00:02] <Anuska> how i add this to be automated if i reboot the linux?
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: ~?.ssh/authorized_keys is on ther server
[00:02] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, I have not.
[00:02] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: sudormrf: For example, I use it for remote-relays with "command="sleep 604800" ssh-rsa AAAAB...." to prevent the ssh proxy from disconnecting through inactivity
[00:03] <Neytiri> hi i am havinga issue with my system unexpectidly rebooting
[00:03] <sudormrf> TJ-, the only file I see is "known_hosts" and it looks to be encrypted
[00:03] <Neytiri> how do i figurt out why
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: pastebin the contents of /var/log/syslog
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: are you using password auth or key auth?
[00:04] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, password.
[00:04] <TJ-> sudormrf: That is on the server? I'm referring to the user's $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys *on the server*
[00:04] <sudormrf> TJ-, correct.  let me check again
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: ahh, thats why there's no authorized_keys then
[00:04] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, oh.  haha
[00:05] <TJ-> sudormrf: aha!. OK, have you connected using "ssh -vvvv .... " to get maxium debug output? And have you checked the server's "/var/log/auth.log" ?
[00:05] <Neytiri> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/33iDvskP
[00:05] <sudormrf> TJ-, let me check the /var/log/auth.log
[00:06] <sudormrf> TJ-, I have been using -vT when connecting to see what is happening, but that only shows up until the point the authentication takes place. after that I see the "welcome to ubuntu...." message and the message about updates and that is it.  the prompt doesn't show up.
[00:06] <TJ-> sudormrf: That is the server's MOTD, generated by pam-motd
[00:07] <TJ-> sudormrf: So you're getting into PAM, but I wonder if its getting out?
[00:08] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: last time I installed skype, it installed some bloatcrap on firefox. I didn't order that. Who knows what else it does. I just want to keep it out of the rest of the system (it has no business there).
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: just do an "advanced" setup or whatever they call it these days and don't install the addons
[00:09] <sudormrf> TJ-, that's called PAM?  good to know :).  Yeah, it looks like I am getting in to PAM but it is getting stuck.
[00:09] <TJ-> sudormrf: Pluggable Authentication Modules
[00:09] <sudormrf> TJ-, good to know! :).  So yeah, is there a PAM log? or something along those lines?
[00:09] <TJ-> sudormrf: So, focus on increasing the verbosity of server-side logging into auth.log
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: to be sure: cat /etc/update-motd.d/* | pastebinit
[00:10] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, ok
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: is the current session just after a crash?
[00:11] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852359/
[00:11] <Neytiri> ?
[00:11] <sudormrf> TJ-, how can I increase the verbosity of the logging in auth.log?
[00:11] <Neytiri> i grabed the full syslog file after i got back in
[00:12] <TJ-> sudormrf: To see what modules are being run, in what order, look at "/etc/pam.d/login"
[00:12] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, anyone using 14.04 Daly Bilds already ?
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | ANN-TechCoder
[00:13] <ANN-TechCoder> I know. All I am asking if anyone has it installed and using Daly Builds ?
[00:13] <Anuska> ANYONE? if i want to add to mount automated samba file from other ubuntu in my ubuntu...
[00:13] <Anuska> what i need to config, becouse if i add //ip .... in fstab not work
[00:13] <sudormrf> TJ-, checking
[00:13] <jtane> hello, i am trying to use ip l2tp on ubuntu 13.10, but it always returns "error talking to the kernel"
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: i mean your current run of the system started at: Jan 31 18:55:33    is this just after a crash? or was this after a normal shutdown?
[00:14] <Neytiri> jsut after a crash
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> ANN-TechCoder: any chat or anything related to trusty is in #ubuntu+1
[00:15] <Neytiri> wait that might be from a reboot
[00:15] <Neytiri> looking at the time difference
[00:16] <jtane> anyone had any luck using l2tp on saucy?
[00:16] <sudormrf> Anuska, you should be able to use an IP address in fstab
[00:16] <Anuska> yes
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: can you pastebin an earlier syslog then please. they should be stored as /var/log/syslog.1, /var/log/syslog.2.gz, etc...
[00:16] <Anuska> but what is the line
[00:17] <Anuska> here: //myserver_ip_address/myshare  /media/samba_share  cifs  noauto,credentials=/etc/samba/user,noexec  0 0
[00:17] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: I just dont' trust them.
[00:17] <Anuska> but... not have /etc/samba/user in this computer becouse is other computer with ubuntu
[00:17] <sudormrf> Anuska, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026501
[00:17] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: if you can run it with a restricted user anyway, it shouldn't be able to affect your system, should it? (assuming it's not trying to use any exploits to do that)
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: lol. there's no real way of sandboxing it, so unfortunately you will have to trust them
[00:17] <Anuska> /netstore/disk1 /media/disk1 smbfs dmask=777,username=username,password=password 0 0
[00:17] <Anuska> thanks
[00:18] <sudormrf> Anuska, you need to replace netstore with your disk info
[00:18] <Anuska> yes but! if someone type: cat /etc/fsdab
[00:18] <Anuska> see the password is in clear text
[00:18] <sudormrf> Anuska, I am going to show you how to prevent that.  sec.
[00:18] <mxplea> hello, I am wondering if somebody can help me install Ubuntu to a partition on a Windows system.  I just made a 30 gig partition and I don't really have access to a USB stick or CD/DVD. Is there any way I can install Ubuntu to this partitioned drive from within Windows?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: no, it should not be able to effect the main system. but could potentially write anything in userspace
[00:18] <sudormrf> Anuska, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1806455
[00:19] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: :(
[00:19] <koalinux> bye
[00:19] <Anuska> let me see sudormrf
[00:20] <Neytiri> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852389/
[00:20] <sudormrf> TJ-, I had a look at that file, but it doesn't look out of the ordinary to me.
[00:22] <TJ-> sudormrf: I forgot, for ssh, it's "/etc/pam.d/sshd" ... but that is for your information, to get an idea of which modules are running in which order. If you know MOTD is running to completion then you can focus on the modules listed after it, to identify the fault
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: ok. lots of apps crashing before the restart
[00:22] <hochmeister> what are some projects that use upstart. I'm trying to package a project that uses it and I'd like to take a look at some examples.
[00:22] <hochmeister> oops, that was supposed to be a question...
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: seems to be an issue with the swap maybe
[00:23] <sudormrf> TJ-, checking. :).
[00:24] <Neytiri> how can i fix that?
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: ok. can you pastebin the output of: free -m
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> hochmeister: plenty of examples in /etc/init
[00:24] <Neytiri> http://pastebin.com/5wrT0Tcv
[00:24] <TJ-> sudormrf: To debug, you can add the option "debug" to the commands, e.g.  "session    optional     pam_motd.so debug # [1]"  and so on for other modules
[00:24] <Anuska> yay
[00:25] <Anuska> but ubuntu not have root
[00:25] <Anuska> password for root
[00:25] <hochmeister> hitsujiTMO, shamefully I remembered this immediately after asking
[00:25] <sudormrf> Anuska, not sure what you mean?
[00:25] <sudormrf> TJ-, is there a log that this stuff would be reflected in?
[00:27] <Anuska> i need to set a password to root?
[00:27] <Anuska> or no?
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: are you using a lot of memory when the crah happens?
[00:27] <TJ-> !root | Anuska
[00:27] <hochmeister> I'm having a small problem with debuild. it's generating rc-style init scripts along with pre&post install and a prerm script. It is not creating a postrm script, which generates a lintian error, and looks like it is appending the postrm routine to the postinst script.
[00:27] <Anuska> yes
[00:27] <TJ-> sudormrf: "/var/log/auth.log"
[00:27] <nobitanobi> How can I run PHP files (a whole Project that I have in /home/novita/MyProject) that are not in /var/www ?
[00:28] <Neytiri> yes, i am using it to host minecraft servers
[00:28] <hochmeister> nobitanobi, symlink to your document root, or use the userdir module.
[00:28] <sudormrf> TJ-, oh.  the PAM logs to that log too.  ic :).
[00:28] <Anuska> mount error(13): Permission denied
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> nobitanobi: symlink /home/novita/MyProject to /var/www/MyProject          or create a virtual host
[00:28] <Anuska> sudo mount -a
[00:29] <Anuska> !?
[00:29] <TJ-> sudormrf: P-Authentication-M ---> "auth".log ... there's a clue in the name :)
[00:29] <nobitanobi> hitsujiTMO, ok.
[00:29] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: what if i chroot and then run skype as a restricted binary?
[00:29] <nobitanobi> hitsujiTMO, how can I find out about virtual hosts in order to do this?
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: you can still escape a chroot
[00:29] <nobitanobi> I fail to see how to Google that
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: i think you're over thinking the situation. if you're really feel that bad about it, run it in a virtual machine
[00:30] <hochmeister> nobitanobi, you really don't have to setup a vhost. you can also use userdir: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_userdir.html
[00:30] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: but only if you do that explicitly, right? like "escape chroot" (why would skype do that)?
[00:30] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: I'm paranoid :3.
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> nobitanobi: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[00:31] <nobitanobi> ok guys. I will take a look at mod_userdir
[00:31] <nobitanobi> thanks hitsujiTMO
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: why would skype do anything to "infect" your system? :P
[00:32] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: I don't think it would. But my experience is that installations do more than just dropping an executable in a directory.
[00:32] <Anuska> sudormrf, TJ-  i need to add some password in .cifscredentials  ? not work with password from linux?
[00:33] <Anuska> if is the same user
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: first thing i'd do is run memtest
[00:33] <Anuska> & pass
[00:33] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: btw, what did you mean by exiting chroot?
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: yes, but there's an advanced setup for skype that allows you to stop that
[00:33] <Neytiri> its a vmware virtual machine, does that still apply?
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: you can escape a chroot, via /dev or other means
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: do you actually have 24GB of ram for the VM?
[00:34] <granjero> hi, i´m installing GNUHealth on Ubuntu server 12.04 and in some point at the tutorial says to type this command. "source $HOME/.gnuhealthrc" how do I get out of the blue state that command make me enter in.
[00:34] <granjero> thanks in advancew
[00:35] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: I don't trust those 'advanced' setups anymore xD. I did that with iTunes, but my laptop was all over my university LAN. "*bad word*s computer" showed up on pretty much every mac and iPhone connected to that network.
[00:35] <granjero> excuse my english.
[00:35] <Anuska> Is anyone here how use VNC to connect UBUNTU to Debian?
[00:35] <granjero> installing over ubuntu server i386 12.04
[00:35] <simonhfc> sera
[00:36] <Neytiri> the server has 32
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> Neytiri: and are you over committing memory? if not i'd run memtest from a live cd on the host
[00:36] <simonhfc> buona sera
[00:36] <Neytiri> i only have 24 assigned to the vm tho
[00:36] <sudormrf> Anuska, when you chown the file you should be OK
[00:36] <treehouse> Anuska: simple. You just install a VNC server on the Debian computer, and connect via a VNC client from the ubuntu computer. No hazzle.
[00:36] <Neytiri> i'll give it a try
[00:36] <Anuska> yes treehouse
[00:36] <Anuska> i install vns erv
[00:36] <sudormrf> TJ-, this is such a strange problem LOL.  I am looking at these things thinking "why aren't you workinG?!" curious to see what happens when I get home.
[00:37] <Anuska> vnc11serve some of that is running on debian
[00:37] <Anuska> and in ubuntu i have ssl/ssh bnc viewer
[00:37] <simonhfc> chi mi può aiutare?
[00:37] <Anuska> simonhfc,  join #ubuntu-it
[00:37] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: but the 'mechanisms' to escape chroot, aren't used easily by accident I assume? (programs won't escape it unless it's doing so pretty much deliberately)?
[00:37] <sgen> Hi all, Im trying to copysome files to my note 3. Ive connnected the  device but IM not sure where its mounted. Any ideas?
[00:38] <Anuska> x11vncserver = running on debian
[00:38] <Anuska> how i connect on this from ubuntu?
[00:38] <treehouse> Anuska: you need a VNC client (specifically) to make it work, usually. try that
[00:39] <Anuska> ssl/ssh vnc viewer ?
[00:39] <Anuska> this?
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> treehouse: no they aren't
[00:39] <Ben64> Anuska: use a vnc client to connect to a vnc server, it doesn't matter if the server is debian, ubuntu, windows, or anything...
[00:39] <Anuska> but what is the name? becouse not find
[00:39] <Ben64> !find vnc
[00:39] <Anuska> I ask is: ssl/ssh bnc viewer the name?
[00:39] <Anuska> vnc*
[00:40] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Neytiri "evomc kernel: [    0.000000] Memory: 24673388k/26214400k available "
[00:40] <Anuska> x11vnc ?
[00:40] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients
[00:40] <Ben64> pick one
[00:41] <Anuska> thanks
[00:41] <treehouse> hitsujiTMO: :D problem solved then, for sane apps that you just want to make sure they stay out of the rest of the system :p? chroot, and they will find no files that I have no interest of them reading, and they'll write stuff to a trashcan folder?
[00:42] <skinux> What's the command to see how much disk space is left? Note, it is actually a partition mounted to /home at boot.
[00:42] <treehouse> skinux: df
[00:42] <treehouse> = disk free
[00:43] <sudormrf> TJ-, and now it is working.  LOL this is driving me nuts
[00:43] <skinux> Will it give free space of -only- /home partition?
[00:43] <Ben64> df gives for all mounted partitions
[00:43] <rww> skinux: df /home
[00:43] <skinux> Cool. Thanks.
[00:43] <Josh`> im pretty sure ubuntu 13.10 just installed itself over the windows partition rather than replacing 12.04, i dont suppose i can somehow recover what just happened? :(
[00:44] <Ben64> Josh`: pastebin "sudo parted -l"
[00:44] <callmeDarwin> df  -h gives it in readable form not just bytes
[00:44] <TJ-> sudormrf: Don't complain!
[00:44] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: ahhh, ignore me, that log-file was from the Guest, I got caught out by the "Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware" entry
[00:45] <Josh`> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/91PT7ESe
[00:45] <sudormrf> TJ-, not complaining.  laughing about it , mate :).
[00:46] <Ben64> Josh`: looks like you have a windows recovery partition, but besides that, no windows install
[00:46] <Josh`> it would appear so :( i've reinstalled ubuntu a few times today, and that's the first time that action back-fired
[00:48] <Anuska> xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[00:48] <Anuska> Unable to connect to VNC server
[00:48] <Anuska> :((
[00:49] <Anuska> if i use the client from windows ! work
[00:49] <Ben64> look at the error, it tells you what you need to know. "connection refused" so you're using the wrong ip or port
[00:49] <Anuska> hmm
[00:50] <Anuska> i use and Vinagre ... and not work
[00:50] <Anuska> if i connect from windows?
[00:50] <Anuska> all is oki
[00:50] <sk1special> anyone know why the scroll bar is gone on xchat?
[00:50] <sudormrf> Anuska, what are you trying to do?
[00:51] <Anuska> to connect using VNC to Debian with X11VNCSERVER
[00:51] <Ben64> Anuska: use nmap to check ip and port if its open
[00:51] <Anuska> Ben64, if i connect from windows?
[00:51] <sk1special> or how to do the pasword generator thing i could have done before but didnt (in terminal)
[00:51] <Ben64> no...
[00:51] <Anuska> in this computer if i switch the OS work
[00:52] <Ben64> we don't care if it works in windows, ignore that and use nmap to check
[00:52] <Ben64> the problem is you're not using the right ip or port
[00:52] <Anuska> in ubuntu or where is the vnc serve?
[00:52] <Ben64> in ubuntu
[00:53] <Anuska> how i type?
[00:53] <Anuska> nmap..
[00:53] <sudormrf> Anuska, typically VNC is on port 5900 or 5901.  when you connect use xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:5901 and see if that works
[00:53] <sudormrf> Anuska, alternatively, hostname:5901
[00:54] <Anuska> Invalid host expression: <IP_ADDRESS>:5900 -- colons only allowed in IPv6 addresses, and then you need the -6 switch
[00:54] <Anuska> hmm
[00:54] <compdoc> my windows client uses hostname:1
[00:54] <Ben64> nmap <IP_ADDRESS> -p 5900
[00:56] <Anuska> sudormrf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852533/
[00:56] <Ben64> then the server isn't running on that ip/port
[00:56] <Anuska> hmm
[00:56] <Anuska> is imposible
[00:57] <Ben64> pastebin "nmap <IP_ADDRESS> -p 5900-5910"
[00:58] <mstiehm> I have a head scratcher of a bind/ufw problem.. Anyone want to take a listen to the issue?
[00:58] <Anuska> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -PN
[00:58] <Anuska> Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 3.04 seconds
[00:58] <Ben64> pastebin "nmap <IP_ADDRESS> -p 5900-5910 -P0"
[00:58] <Anuska> aa
[00:58] <Anuska> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852548/
[00:59] <Ben64> yep, not running vnc server
[00:59] <Anuska> but is running
[01:00] <Anuska> hmm how i see in linux if is run?
[01:03] <Anuska> Ben64, thanks i resolve the problem
[01:03] <Ben64> wrong ip?
[01:03] <Anuska> but i add to run automated that command when
[01:04] <george__> trying xubuntu.. doesn't seem faster than cinnamon
[01:04] <george__> you guys know if i should install the nvidia propietary drivers.. or leave it as xubuntu configured?
[01:04] <Ben64> if you have an nvidia card, its usually a good idea to have the drivers for it
[01:05] <Anuska> Ben64,  i add this to run automated when i reboot the linux:  x11vnc -usepw -forever
[01:05] <Anuska> but no know why not running
[01:05] <george__> thanks Ben64
[01:07] <Anuska> Ben64, , how i disable Guest User?
[01:08] <utusan> deluser guest
[01:09] <Anuska> Guest Session , sorry
[01:14] <computa_mike> hi - Trying to add my blog to planet ubuntu - is it being hammered at the moment ?
[01:15] <owner> anyone have any experience with Broadcom 4313 wifi adapters and v12.04.4 LTS?
[01:16] <george__> ok, I'm starting to like xfce a lot
[01:16] <george__> you can move things
[01:16] <mstiehm> I have a head scratcher of a bind/ufw problem.. Anyone want to take a listen to the issue?
[01:16] <george__> do you know if i can move the panel to the bottom?
[01:16] <sonictwin> can gparted resize a partition on an SSD?
[01:16] <xangua1>  george__ yes
[01:16] <george__> sonictwin, yes it can
[01:17] <computa_mike> when committing back to Planet I'm getting the following: Cannot lock LockDir, and  Transport operation not possible: readonly transport
[01:17] <george__> xangua1, i dont see the option in setting managers-panel
[01:17] <sk1special> owner, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA%28Wireless%29    , second one second list
[01:18] <rww> computa_mike: are you an Ubuntu Member?
[01:18] <computa_mike> rww: I thought U was - I have a launchpad account, and I signed the code of conduct
[01:18] <rww> !membership
[01:19] <owner> sk1special - thanks. I think I tried this one (and about 40 other articles this week) but I will try again now
[01:19] <sonictwin> awesome. i just got a new laptop and it came with with windows 7 professional and i want to keep it for reasons. do think i'll have any problems in windows if i shrink the partition?
[01:19] <sk1special> owner, no prob. took me a bit to get mine working too, but that link helped me
[01:19] <rww> sonictwin: no. you can even shrink it from within Windows if you want
[01:19] <computa_mike> rww: ahh - looks like i'm not a member then
[01:19] <Anuska> HI, i have a laptop, and my wifi ( CHANGE the color (blue - red, blue -red ) so fast... how i disable that becouse never do that in win )
[01:19] <george__> ok, done
[01:20] <sonictwin> rww: really? no shit. is that built into windows or a 3rd party program
[01:20] <owner> oh ok. I have close to 50 hours in troubleshooting this. It worked for about 6 months on Kubuntu 12.04, then died last week. I even reinstalled today - no luck. Will try now and report back here then - thank you very much.
[01:20] <xangua> !language | sonictwin
[01:20] <rww> sonictwin: first party. right-click My Computer, click Manage, go to Disk Management or something. I don't have a Win7 Pro computer in front of me to get the exact instructions, but it's around there
[01:20] <sonictwin> sorry!
[01:20] <rww> Ubuntu Installer can do it too, though.
[01:21] <rww> Either way, make sure you have backups and such.
[01:21] <sonictwin> rww: cool. brand new laptop, dont really need backups. if i break windows, oh well. ill go full linux
[01:22] <Anuska> How to stop the blinking wifi LED on Ubuntu laptops ?
[01:22] <sonictwin> rww: so should i use gparted or the tool in windows? do you have first hand experience?
[01:23] <rww> sonictwin: both work fine for me. I'd use the Windows one if you already ran through the Windows configuration. Otherwise, may as well use the Ubuntu installer one
[01:24] <george__> soncitwin, if you want to install linux you might as well start the installation, once in you can resize the partition from there
[01:25] <sonictwin> rww: thanks for your help!
[01:25] <rww> you're welcome :)
[01:31] <treehouse> if I chroot a process, to a directory that contains a dir .../dev/sda1   ... and the chrooted process runs 'mount /dev/sda1' (trying to mount /dev/sda1) ...  that actually won't mount the device /dev/sda1/, will it? I've heard (in here) that you can mount devices in a chrooted environment, to access the hd root again
[01:31] <bekks> treehouse: thats nonsense, actually.
[01:32] <bekks> treehouse: having full access to device nodes inherits that you have full access to the system - which makes a chroot pointless.
[01:33] <owner> sk1special - I am at the reboot point in the article you provided above. I will reboot and brb. thx.
[01:34] <treehouse> bekks: ?
[01:34] <treehouse> how so?
[01:35] <sakka> Hi, everyone.
[01:35] <bekks> treehouse: As I said.  Having full access to a device node makes a chroot being pointless.
[01:36] <treehouse> bekks: in what way?
[01:36] <bekks> I can edit the device and its content outside the chroot when having full access.
[01:36] <bekks> Which is the worst case ever, ever, ever when using a chroot.
[01:36] <treehouse> how can you do that?
[01:37] <treehouse> what do you mean by 'having full access' btw?
[01:37] <bekks> treehouse: Being able to mount a raw device requires full access to the raw device.
[01:37] <Jordan_U> treehouse: Chroots are *not* a means of isolating processes. They provide no security whatsoever.
[01:38] <psusi> treehouse, you can mount a device in a chroot if you are root, just like you can outside... but if that isn't a device, then.... take a guess ;)
[01:38] <TJ-> bekks: I think you're misunderstanding, or I am. I *believe* treehouse means if there is a directory entry in the chroot "/dev/sda1" will mount treat it as a device node and mount it. The answer is, no, unless that path *is* a device node rather than a regular directory entry.
[01:38] <josh_> Ben64, in continuation of the lost windows partition, will gpart or other utility be capable of recovering files from where the paritition used to be?
[01:38] <rm_> so I uninstalled grub from apt-get. Now I've restarted and i cant get to ubuntu only gnu grub prompt. :'/
[01:38] <TJ-> rm_: And what did you expect?
[01:39] <bekks> TJ-: Well, unless that entry inside the chroot is a device node, it wont mount.
[01:39] <KM0201> rm_: sounds like you did exactly what you wanted to do.
[01:39] <TJ-> bekks: indeed, I think that was the thrust of treehouse's question, would an identical name somehow be treated as the device node
[01:40] <owner> anyone have any luck with Broadcom4313 wireless cards on 12.04 Precise?
[01:40] <rm_> TJ- I was getting fuss during installs about grub. Being a dummy I just tried to uninstall, reinstall.. clean it or something
[01:40] <treehouse> TJ-: indeed
[01:40] <rm_> KM0201 can i get back to my ubuntu install or am I SOL
[01:40] <KM0201> !grub
[01:41] <KM0201> rm_: i'd suggest following the instructions to restore grub.
[01:41] <bekks> TJ-: I didnt expect someone to assume a directory name forcing it to be a device node. my fault :)
[01:41] <Jordan_U> rm_: You can get back to your Ubuntu installation. Just follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot Note, I'm linking to a specific section of that page, follow the exact instructions I'm linking to.
[01:42] <TJ-> treehouse: Device nodes are created using "mknod" and have additional attributes (b == block, c == character, u == unbuffered, p == pipe. See "man pipe" and look at output of "ls -l /dev/sda" or "stat /dev/sda" and compare to a regular directory of the same name in the chroot
[01:42] <TJ-> bekks: I read it that way initially... then it didn't make sense so I re-read it with my 'innocent' head on :)
[01:43] <Jordan_U> treehouse: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2013/03/27/is-chroot-a-security-feature/ TLDR: Chroot is *not* a security feature.
[01:43] <treehouse> bekks, if I chroot a directory containing a binary, namely a ssh daemon, and run that process as a user 'duck' that has no root privileges.. and soneone connects to that ssh server and logs in as duck... will they be able to mount any devices?
[01:43] <treehouse> Jordan_U: I do realize that, I'm just trying to figure out to what extent it isn't :p
[01:44] <bekks> treehouse: No.
[01:44] <TJ-> Jordan_U: It sure is a security feature... I got lost in one last week because I was flipping between terminals, and thought some packages had somehow been uninstalled... It securely stopped me running those commands!
[01:44] <Jordan_U> treehouse: So completely that it's not even worth considering. There are options that provide real isolation, like containers or simply using an appropriate apparmor/selinux policy.
[01:44] <bekks> treehouse: Not unless you grant that user full access to the actual device nodes.
[01:44] <josh_> if ubuntu formatted itself over my windows partition whilst replacing 12.04, is it possibly for a utility to recover files from the lost partition?
[01:44] <treehouse> TJ-: ah, I get it. so what is a 'node'?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> josh_: Yes, though don't expect to recover everything, and you will likely not be able to recover the files' names either.
[01:45] <bekks> josh_: ubuntu does not "format itself" to anywhere.
[01:45] <treehouse> bekks: but if duck could run mknod+mount successfully, he'd be able to mount a device?
[01:45] <bekks> josh_: What did you actuall do?
[01:46] <TJ-> treehouse: It's a 'name' (dirent aka directory entry) in the file system that accesses some special 'kernel' file such as a block or character device (think disk or TTY), or pipe (FIFO aka First-In, First-Out)
[01:46] <bekks> treehouse: Tell us ONE good reason to provide ssh, mknode and mount in a chroot.
[01:47] <TJ-> bekks: Building and testing alternative Ubuntu releases
[01:47] <Jordan_U> bekks: Just because you don't provide the mount and mknod utilities doesn't mean that you block use of the underlying system calls.
[01:47] <josh_> bekks, booted 13.10 from liveusb, selected install, selected to replace previous 12.04 install and later noticed whole lot more disk space than the previous install
[01:47] <bekks> Jordan_U: thats the caveat of a chroot env.
[01:47] <josh_> Jordan_U, i expected so
[01:47] <Jordan_U> treehouse: I hope at this point that you realize that chroot is *not* a security feature and these questions are purely out of curiosity. Is that the case?
[01:48] <bekks> TJ-: for a chroot, mount --bind would be the better solution.
[01:48] <Jordan_U> bekks: It's one of many.
[01:48] <treehouse> Jordan_U: so, technically, you could upload mknod and execute it --the underlying system calls that is--? (or I assume you need root for that?)
[01:48] <treehouse> Jordan_U: indeed very much so.
[01:48] <Jordan_U> treehouse: The underlying system calls do need you to be running as root.
[01:49] <treehouse> Jordan_U: for example. I'm trying to figure out to what extent I can use chroot to prevent programs to bloat my file system, (and I'm trying to figure out a lot of other things)
[01:49] <TJ-> bekks: No, --bind is no good for build-testing, mount is required for some operations like, for example, grub-install, and also mounting the contents of the chroot's fstab, else the mtab is incorrect
[01:49] <Jordan_U> treehouse: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2013/03/27/is-chroot-a-security-feature/ explains much of this better than I can.
[01:50] <treehouse> alright :) thnx
[01:50] <Jordan_U> treehouse: You're welcome.
[01:52] <newhoa> I have a second hard drive I would like to use for my home directory. Can I just format the entire drive as ext4 in gparted then create a home directory on the drive. Or do I need to do something specific (set a mount point or change it to primary/extended partition, etc)?
[01:53] <josh_> Jordan_U, would you be kind enough to point me in the correct direction to recover?
[01:54] <treehouse> you can use chroot to run/test a program in a environment with 'different' dependencies. Now, how does that work? Is it the programs themselves, or the kernel that looks for dependencies relative the current '/' (root) for the process?
[01:54] <Nusoft> Hello?
[01:55] <mnemon> treehouse: the dependencies will be loaded by the program
[01:55] <Jordan_U> !photorec | josh_
[01:56] <josh_> !photorec
[01:56] <Nusoft> Anybody? Can I get a response so I know I'm not lagging or anonymous?
[01:56] <treehouse> mnemon: :D
[01:56] <Jordan_U> josh_: Sorry, turns out there's no factoid for it yet: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[01:57] <treehouse> mnemon: so how will the program know where to look for dependencies? Does it look at some environment variables?
[01:57] <josh_> Jordan_U, many thanks
[01:57] <Jordan_U> Nusoft: In the future please use #test for testing (or just start by ansking your question).
[01:58] <Nusoft> Okay then
[01:58] <Nusoft> Is Ubuntu a free OS? Cause I am planning on getting it in the future? Also what are the advantages of having Ubuntu?
[01:59] <TJ-> treehouse: see "man 2 chroot"
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Nusoft: Yes, Ubuntu is completely free.
[02:01] <Nusoft> Is there any advantages to having it? (i.e. software, performance, features, etc.)
[02:01] <Jordan_U> Nusoft: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop lists some of the advantages. There are many advantages and many disadvantages. I'd recommend trying it and seeing if you like it.
[02:01] <raphael> Hello
[02:01] <Nusoft> Hi, raphael!
[02:02] <raphael> Hello man
[02:02] <Nusoft> Thanks, Jordan_U! Apologies for the random message!
[02:02] <mnemon> treehouse: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html
[02:02] <Jordan_U> Nusoft: You're welcome, and no problem :)
[02:04] <ron__> news linux user here, just installed pear 8,,, any advice
[02:06] <josh_> Jordan_U, thank you so much! just got one of the important files i lost *hugs*
[02:06] <ron__> wow, so friendly!
[02:06] <Jordan_U> josh_: You're welcome :)
[02:08] <Jordan_U> ron__: Unfortunately it appears that Pear linux has been discontinued. I recommend installing Ubuntu proper.
[02:08] <ron__> proper?
[02:09] <treehouse> it seems that linux 'puts' the dynamic linker in the program, and THEN "the program itself" dynamically loads the libraries. That must mean that filepaths, such as /libs will mean /horse/libs if you've chrooted to /horse/ before executing that program
[02:09] <Jordan_U> ron__: Actual Ubuntu, from http://ubuntu.com, as opposed to an Ubuntu derivative.
[02:10] <ron__> well, i may just do that,,,, i had this netbook lying around and thought i would give linux a whirl on it,   i really liked the look and feel of pear,, shame is being discontinued
[02:12] <Jordan_U> ron__: You can make Ubuntu look prety much however you want, including making it look like Pear Linux used to. It will take additional work though. Have you tried Ubuntu's default look yet?
[02:12] <robmillernow> is there an IRC chat channel for Ubuntu noobs?
[02:12] <ron__> yeah ive had it before,,, its pretty nice, just been trying to find one that i like
[02:13] <robmillernow> for noobs to get help, that is?
[02:13] <ron__> im a noob too rob
[02:13] <TJ-> treehouse: No, the libc6 /lib*/ld-linux*.so loader is linked to all executables that use dynamic shared libraries (DSOs), and its code is called first by libc6 to link all other DSOs into the process's address space before execution is passed in
[02:14] <TJ-> treehouse: That's why you can influence which DSOs are loaded using the environment's LD_LIBRARY_PATH="..."
[02:14] <ron__> Jordan,,, have you had ubuntu on a netbook before?
[02:14] <robmillernow> I have REALLY noob questions that helpers of the level I've seen in here would get frustrated with me for asking...
[02:14] <robmillernow> i guess i need something like ELI5:Ubuntu
[02:15] <Jordan_U> ron__: Yes. And Ubuntu's current interface was actually originally designed for netbooks.
[02:15] <ron__> the one with the side bar?
[02:15] <ron__> is there anyway that thing can be moved to the bottom?
[02:16] <zzz> cd wont format cant install linux
[02:16] <robmillernow> oookay, i suppose not.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> robmillernow: People here should be willing to answer basic questions. We may point you to links to existing documentation that answers your question, but will also be willing to clarify things further if you don't understand said documentation (as long as you're willing to try).
[02:16] <ron__> im new too rob,,,, jordan seems to know quite a bit
[02:17] <robmillernow> cool, Jordan...thanks
[02:17] <Jordan_U> robmillernow: People who get frustrated by simple questions aren't really welcome here :)
[02:17] <Jordan_U> robmillernow: You're welcome.
[02:18] <zzz> cd wont format :(
[02:18] <robmillernow> heh... you should mention that to a couple of the "helpers" who were here this morning.
[02:18] <ron__> this pear os 8 looks alot like ios 7 and mac os mavericks combined
[02:18] <Jordan_U> zzz: Ubuntu's install images are to big to fit on CDs, you'll need to use a DVD.
[02:18] <Jordan_U> zzz: (Or a USB drive)
[02:18] <robmillernow> no sweat, though...i found a canadian in here who was willing to sidebar with me.
[02:19] <zzz> Okay, thanks ill see if I have one laying around
[02:22] <ron__> Jordan,,, just a noob question, when i first downloaded pidgen i tried to save the download to install later, and i some how lost it,,, couldnt find it anywhere, what did i do wrong,,,, i went to the app store and got it installed correctly, but still cant find that first download
[02:22] <treehouse> TJ-: so chroot changes LD_LIBRARY_PATH, that's why it works?
[02:24] <Jordan_U> treehouse: No. No change to LD_LIBRARY_PATH is needed because all file paths within the chroot, including open() calls from LD, are relative to the directory you chrooted into.
[02:25] <owner> anyone have great luck with Broadcom4313 wireless adapters in 12.04.4?
[02:26] <Jordan_U> treehouse: There is a tool called fakechroot that implements chroot like functionality without requiring root privileges by adding its own library to LD_PRELOAD which you might find interesting though.
[02:28] <Jordan_U> treehouse: Fakechroot doesn't work with programs that use system calls directly though, only those that use C libraries for file access (i.e. 99.9% of applications).
[02:29] <Ben64> !broadcom | owner
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ron__: Unfortunately we don't support non-Ubuntu distributions here. ##linux might, but since your distro has been discontinued and is not getting security updates it is *insecure*, and you should replace it as soon as possible.
[02:30] <ron__> ok thanks Jordan i think i have a copy of 13:10 is that a good one for something with low power like a netbook?
[02:31] <owner> Ben64 ubottu I will check that article - thanks. I've read and tried at least 40 different articles so far with no joy :(
[02:31] <Psil0Cybin> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:33] <ron__> Should i download 12.04 instead?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> ron__: Yes, though of course it depends on how old the netbook is and if the graphics drivers for its hardware are good (even a fast modern computer will be slow with bad graphics drivers).
[02:33] <owner> i am to the point I will disable this wifi card and see about buying another one usb-based. sad thing is it worked for about 6 months in Kubuntu 12.04 and just puked last week for some reason.
[02:34] <Biodragon> how can I see which packages I have installed (or are installed) with apt-get?
[02:34] <ron__> owner it might be a hardware issue instead of software
[02:34] <ron__> its was once a windows 7 netbook if that helps
[02:34] <owner> ron__ that's what I am starting to think, yes. must have been zapped or something
[02:35] <Jordan_U> ron__: Then either 12.04 or 13.10 should be fine (as long as the graphics drivers are good).
[02:35] <ron__> ive had wifi cards go bad,,,, they can sometimes even still be recognized in the hardware profiler like they are still active, and still be a bad card
[02:36] <owner> it can see SSIDs, can connect (sometimes) can authenticate (sometimes) which depends on which article I am following to fix this, but never gets as far as assigning an IP.
[02:36] <ron__> might have to wipe and reinstall then owner
[02:37] <owner> I did that today too - even went from Kubuntu 12.04 to Ubuntu 12.04 - no joy - same thing <sigh>
[02:39] <ron__> yeah that bites!.......well i think im gonna go and load 13.10 into this thing, since my distro is no more!.......lol
[02:39] <owner> okj - good luck - checking newegg for a new usb wifi adapter :)
[02:40] <ron__> Jordan,,, just one more thing before i go,,,,, can i move that sidebar in ubuntu  to the bottom like a dock,,, if i can i think i will be happier with it
[02:41] <Ben64> owner: broadcom cards are pretty much the worst ones you can have for linux support. If you value your time, I suggest you get one that is better supported.
[02:43] <histumness> Has anyone else ever had an issue where when you try to view a flash video stream fullscreen, it does not center the video properly?
[02:43] <histumness> specifically this is happening for me on the videos on louisck.net
[02:43] <owner> Ben64 - agreed - it came with this Dell Precision M6700 mobile workstation - shelled out almost $8000 for it. Everything else is top-notch, but the wifi is really poor
[02:43] <ron__> thats a shame for something that expensive
[02:44] <owner> yep - it worked for 6 months too. I have a feeling I mucked it up somehow though :)
[02:44] <histumness> actually i think it's html5 video, not flash
[02:44] <ron__> possible
[02:45] <sakka> Hello. I'm trying to boot ubuntu 13.10 from a usb pen drive but it's not working. I tried several different things. Can you help me?
[02:49] <sakka> I think I'm missing something rellay basic, I just don't know what. I have been tinkering with this for days... any help is appreciated.
[02:50] <sakka> :(
[02:51] <mattlb> I have a problem with a webcam
[02:52] <sponzor> hi. i seted up vsftpd. now i can access it by web ftp://ip but how to access on web by ssl? or is ssl just for filezzila etc...?
[02:55] <owner> brb
[03:00] <ZzZ> Ok, burned linux to dvd but when I restart it still boots right up to windows, I cannot figure out how to boot to Linux.
[03:02] <sponzor> ZzZ: did you set up boot from dvd? you have to move it to first place and hdd second
[03:03] <sponzor> you can change boot settings in bios
[03:03] <daftykins> or sometimes there's a key for a one time boot menu
[03:06] <ZzZ> well i have tried f12 on startup and see no option to boot from cd-rom
[03:06] <ZzZ> wait looks like i got it
[03:06] <SvenOostenbrink> I just got a Ubuntu VPS, and I see some processes that I do not recognize, rcu_sched, rcu_bh,  and console-kit-dae.. Specially the first one is consuming a lot of CPU resources for some reason. What are these processes? What package can I remove to dump this process?
[03:07] <ZzZ> Yep go it nvm
[03:07] <ZzZ> got*
[03:07] <sponzor> np :)
[03:25] <Meow_> Hi, Linux does not detect my wi-fi network. ?
[03:34] <mmae> hi. i have freshly installed ubuntu gnome as the only os on my laptop. but it won't boot
[03:34] <mmae> this is the output of boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6852983/
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !happensMeow_,
[03:35] <cfhowlett> mmae, won't boot?  hangs at system prompt?  black screen?  what?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> mmae: What happens when you try to boot?
[03:37] <mmae> after a few seconds of a blank screen i get: gave up waiting for root device [...] /dev/disk/by-uuid/... does not exist [...] dropping to shell
[03:38] <Meow_> Linux won't detect wi-fi network
[03:39] <cfhowlett> !wifi|Meow_,
[03:39] <cyphase> Meow_, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:39] <Meow_> 13.10
[03:40] <cyphase> Meow_, do you know what kind of wifi card you have?
[03:40] <Meow_> And no I don't
[03:40] <cyphase> can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[03:41] <mmae> i've reinstalled again but got the same boot error. does this point towards my usb-installation-media being broken? however, i can run the live-image just fine. as i am doing right now
[03:42] <cfhowlett> mmae, well, you DID do the md5sum check --- right?
[03:42] <mmae> no
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[03:43] <mmae> can i do that while the image is mounted?
[03:44] <Meow_> now where is my wireless card info on lspci -v?
[03:44] <cyphase> can you pastebin the output?
[03:46] <Meow_> Yes but how can i paste bin without connection?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> mmae: No, the md5sum test is done on the downloaded .iso file to verify.
[03:46] <cyphase> Meow_, ooh, i assumed you were on the computer via ethernet
[03:47] <cyphase> flash drive?
[03:47] <nearst> Meow_, lshw -c network
[03:49] <Meow_> okay, what should I look for?
[03:49] <nearst> Meow_, your wireless ?
[03:49] <Meow_> not on there
[03:50] <Meow_> linux won't even detect wireless
[03:50] <cyphase> Meow_, is this a laptop?
[03:50] <hyprvx> Help, I'm using xubuntu 13.10 and I don't have sound drivers and have no idea where I'd even find them
[03:51] <cfhowlett> hyprvx, "have no sound drivers"?  I doubt that.   More details, please.
[03:51] <Meow_> yes
[03:51] <cyphase> is the wifi hardware switch on?
[03:51] <Meow_> Sorry i mean no
[03:51] <Meow_> not a laptop
[03:51] <hyprvx> well, I'm trying to enable sound, but it's just perpetually on mute and there's no options in settings
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !soundbut
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !soundbug
[03:52] <cyphase> ubottu doesn't like you right now
[03:52] <hyprvx> let me guess, the fix is something like reboot?
[03:52] <hyprvx> !soundbug
[03:52] <cfhowlett> cyphase, true.  can you invoke the sound bug for me?
[03:53] <cyphase> !soundbug
[03:53] <cyphase> he says he knows nothing. lies!
[03:53] <hyprvx> it says it doesn't know anything about soundbug
[03:54] <nearst> ask!
[03:54] <hyprvx> is there a wiki article?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> hyprvx, you have drivers.  switching the sound on is the issue.  there's a known bug on 13.10 and a workaround - looking
[03:55] <Meow_> how do I install the drivers if I can't connect to the internet?
[03:56] <nearst> how can we help if u don't provide us with information
[03:57] <hyprvx> Meow_: Do you have a flash drive?
[03:57] <daftykins> we must become psychics
[03:57] <Meow_> yes I do
[03:59] <hyprvx> are you on another computer or a smartphone/tablet?
[04:00] <Meow_> another computer
[04:00] <hyprvx> download the drivers on this computer, send to flash drive, bring to other computer, install drivers, profit
[04:01] <Meow_> that sounds promising , ill try it, thanks
[04:02] <FWL73> Ubuntu 13.10 brightness problem in. Dell inspiron 15 R 7530 SE
[04:05] <FWL73> Which is best laptop under $1000 for linux
[04:05] <FWL73> ????
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !best|FWL73,
[04:06] <nearst> laptop! | FWL73
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !hardware
[04:06] <nearst> !laptop | FWL73
[04:09] <FWL73> And I want to know which is the best way to install AMD CPU driver in ubuntu , I tried different method like I download drive from AMD and then install , use jockey-gtk utility but nothing works for me
[04:09] <nearst> !fglrx | FWL73
[04:10] <FWL73> Is this a office guide
[04:10] <FWL73> ???
[04:10] <nearst> FWL73, unless ure gonna try with unstable stuff
[04:11] <hyprvx> Has someone found the soundbug workaround?
[04:12] <glitsj16> hyprvx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182038&p=12822062#post12822062 in relation to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[04:14] <FWL73> I try to find my gpu but no luck ,
[04:14] <FWL73> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[04:14] <iom> anyone with a sense of humor to give a hand with a problem mounting a HD?
[04:16] <SpArTaKo>  kern.log     4.6 gb :0
[04:16] <cfhowlett> FWL73, then you should write the wiki entry for your card - just like all those other folk did.
[04:16] <SpArTaKo> ufw.log           4.4
[04:16] <glitsj16> hyprvx: by now, as the bug report shows, there's a fix in indicator-sound-gtk2 v. <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2.3 .. you should be able to just apt-get that
[04:17] <FWL73> Link pls
[04:17] <hyprvx> I installed the updates after installing xubuntu, so it should have just been bundled into that.
[04:18] <hyprvx> I've got two programs installing, and so after that I'll reboot
[04:18] <FWL73> (cfhowlett) link pls
[04:19] <cfhowlett> FWL73, at the wiki.  All of those entries came from people who were trying their card.  if YOUR card isn't listed, it's because no one has reported on it.  Here's your chance!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti
[04:20] <FWL73> Cfhowlett thanks
[04:21] <SpArTaKo>  kern.log     4.6 gb :0
[04:21] <SpArTaKo> ufw.log           4.4
[04:22] <SpArTaKo> ???
[04:22] <Meow_> can someone help please, my wireless driver is called "802.11 bgn1t1r" and I cannot find the drivers for it on Ralink
[04:22] <cfhowlett> SpArTaKo, why are you posting that stuff in channel?
[04:29] <glitsj16> Meow_: that is not a driver name, the 802.11.. refers to the wireless protocol .. use "lspci -nnk | grep Wireless -A 2", that should give you the chip name, id and driver in use
[04:30] <Meow_> Well, i'm on windows right now because I need to get the drivers over to Linux
[04:31] <Meow_> and I can't find the download for the drivers
[04:31] <glitsj16> Meow_: most drivers are in the kernel, but we can't confirm thatwithout knowing the specifics
[04:32] <glitsj16> Meow_: it was a desktop right?
[04:32] <Meow_> yes
[04:32] <glitsj16> Meow_: no ethernet connection in the desktop?
[04:32] <Meow_> nope :(
[04:33] <FWL73> Meow awesome desktop with no ethernet connection
[04:34] <mattlb> can anyone assist with a webcam issue ?
[04:34] <Meow_> Yes its awesome isn't it
[04:34] <FWL73> Yaa
[04:34] <Meow_> i have a wifi network :p
[04:34] <FWL73> Yes mttlb
[04:35] <FWL73> Yes mattlb
[04:36] <FWL73> mattlb
[04:36] <mattlb> why would a internal webcam that works fine in windows peg the proccessor out while recording in linux
[04:36] <glitsj16> Meow_: well, if it isn't miles away, try to get that info to the channel, go to the machine, run "sudo lshw -html > ~/Desktop/wifi-info.html" and you'll have a nice list describing the hardware .. copy that html file onto a USB stick and paste the lot on paste.ubuntu
[04:36] <glitsj16> .com
[04:38] <FWL73> Which utility ur using for webcam
[04:38] <mattlb> im using vlc right now
[04:38] <glitsj16> Meow_: or cuddle up to it close, might take several command outputs before anyone can actually see what is going on .. and we don't want to strain those meow paws
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !webcam|mattlb,
[04:39] <FWL73> Oh use cheese this best for webcam use
[04:40] <mattlb> when i use cheese and hit record it just freezes until i hit stop
[04:41] <FWL73> Okk
[04:41] <mattlb> vlc works but it hogs the cpu and wont display the picture on screen
[04:42] <FWL73> Hu
[04:42] <FWL73> Wait
[04:43] <mattlb> when i hit stop in cheese the cam stays on even thoughh the pic is still frozen, i have to go back to pic for it to unfreeze
[04:43] <mattlb> my guess is its just reloading the cam because the resolution is different
[04:45] <cfhowlett> mattlb, sounds like a cam driver issue.  common.
[04:45] <mattlb> how do i know if its using the right driver
[04:46] <cfhowlett> mattlb, search parameters:  computer make/model + ubuntu version
[04:47] <FWL73> mattlb check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/249772/cant-capture-video-with-cheese-ubuntu-12-10
[04:49] <FWL73> And this http://askubuntu.com/questions/186003/anything-better-than-cheese-for-video-capture
[04:49] <mattlb> FWL73, different issue
[04:50] <cfhowlett> mattlb, it's not the apps that are failing - you need to config or install the right driver
[04:50] <FWL73> Try above that guy show a solution
[04:50] <ron__> well installed ubuntu 13.10 and updated, so  Jordan_U any advice for a noob?
[04:52] <ron__> seems ok on this little netbook, but its reporting it as an intel atom n270x2 and i thought it was a single core
[04:53] <MK`> When Ubuntu tells me it has detected a system problem, where is that logged?
[04:55] <ron__> im sure it runs a system error report somewhere, but im new, so if you find out let me know. i should need that too at some point i suppose
[04:56] <glitsj16> MK`: i don't know of any specific file location, but you can see it if you press the 'Details' button
[04:57] <MK`> It only has Cancel or Report Problem, doesn't always list details. hmm
[04:57] <mattlb> cfhowlett, its using a uvc driver
[04:58] <MK`> Ah, there's a 250MB crash file for Chromium in /var/crash. Will deleting that stop it popping up?
[04:58] <cfhowlett> mattlb, what *buntu are you on?
[04:58] <mattlb> lubuntu
[04:59] <glitsj16> MK`: hard to tell, but that's quite the dump .. anything odd when you use chromium?
[04:59] <MK`> Just the occasional flash crash
[04:59] <cfhowlett> mattlb, sudo apt-get install lubunut-restricted-extras     to get all the codecs.
[04:59] <MK`> I don't plan on reporting the errors though, so is deleting the crash log safe?
[05:00] <glitsj16> flash .. the adobe version or the google pepperflash?
[05:00] <glitsj16> MK`: sure, that's safe
[05:00] <MK`> I don't know which it is. But yeah, it pops up to remind me to report rather frequently, so I'll get rid of the crash log
[05:02] <mattlb> cfhowlett, it looks like guvcview works fine
[05:02] <glitsj16> MK`: it might keep on doing that, removing the crash log won't keep apport from trying to report home if you keep it running
[05:02] <cfhowlett> mattlb, so then - all fixed?
[05:02] <mattlb> cfhowlett,  yea thanks
[05:02] <MK`> glitsj16: how would I go about quickly restarting apport then?
[05:02] <glitsj16> MK`: check the about:plugins page in chromium to see which one it is, so you can at least try to switch
[05:03] <glitsj16> http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[05:04] <MK`> Adobe Flash, glitsj16. I've renamed the crash report files for now, I will see if that does anything.
[05:04] <glitsj16> MK`: is this on 13.10?
[05:04] <MK`> 12.04
[05:05] <bryon> anybody alive who knows anything about pulseaudio?
[05:06] <glitsj16> MK`: thx, there's a guide somewhere on how to get pepperflashplugin installed in chromium, i'll try and track it down
[05:06] <Meow> no luck on anything
[05:09] <glitsj16> MK`: i'll keep looking for the guide, but it comes down to either add a PPA --> https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/test or download the trusty deb (i checked dependencies and it should be ok for precise but not sure 100%)
[05:10] <MK`> Alright, thanks.
[05:10] <lickalott> hey guys, anyone use jitsi here?
[05:10] <lickalott> i'm having an issue with it launching (after an initial good launch).  I'm stuck with a JavaEmbeddedFrame icon in the taskbar with no functionality.  (https://java.net/projects/jitsi/lists/dev/archive/2013-03/message/464)  hasn't been resolved from Java.  wondering if anyone has fixed this issue
[05:12] <glitsj16> MK`: here's the link --> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-flash-player-installer-for.html
[05:16] <MK`> thanks, I will check it out
[05:34] <dixoncx> I want to measure data usages through ppp0 interfaces. I can see it with ifconfig - RX bytes & TX bytes. But when it re-connects, counter reset to 0. Any other cli tools for this ?
[05:35] <arlen> vnstat
[05:36] <dixoncx> arlen, thanks. will give a try..
[05:37] <arlen> np
[05:58] <FuuqUmiist> why don't privacy advocates recommend any linux distro based on Ubuntu?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> !ot|FuuqUmiist,
[06:03] <niranjan> On 12.04 desktop, using two monitors, how do I force a program to always open on desired monitor?
[06:03] <niranjan> It works great otherwise
[06:20] <Mongo44> Are there any Linux antiviruses?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> !antivirus
[06:20] <Tom1> only 100 in the world
[06:21] <Tom1> there are only 100 viruses for  linux
[06:22] <Mongo44> That is exactly my circumstance. I don't want to give out a Windows virus in an email.
[06:22] <Tom1> is there need to create swap file for Ubuntu?
[06:22] <cfhowlett> Mongo44, clamav is quite popular and well maintained
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Tom1: If you want to be able to hibernate, and you don't have a swap partition, yes.
[06:22] <cfhowlett> Tom1, depends - but can't hurt
[06:23] <Tom1> i mean can ubuntu withough swap partition, or it is compulsory to create.
[06:23] <Mongo44> Tom1, is there a write up on these 100 viruses?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Tom1, no it's not compulsory ...
[06:24] <Tom1> that;s nice,
[06:24] <Tom1> anyways , swap partition is never used.
[06:24] <Tom1> it always shows as 0% swap usage.
[06:24] <matias> alguien que hable español?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> !es|matias,
[06:26] <bryon> i normally leave my computer on 24/7, but I had a pang of eco-conscience yesterday and told my comp to "suspend" before heading to work. 12 hours later, i got home and tried to wake my computer. it didn't wake up. I did a hard shutdown and tried to bring it back up, but it just had stopped completely. Not having the time or resources to diagnose it myself, i took it into a tech today who told me the power supply had gone bad. does anyone think it could have
[06:26] <bryon> holy paragraph
[06:26] <cfhowlett> bryon, how about a pastie instead
[06:28] <bryon> cfhowlett: like... nipple covering for strippers?
[06:29] <cfhowlett> !paste|bryon,  to avoid paragraph panic in channel.  type up your issue and paste the link ONLY in the channel
[06:29] <bryon> ah, pastebin
[06:29] <bryon> i was confused
[06:30] <bryon> i'll for sure do that for future questions that are actually novellas
[06:30] <bryon> i didn't realize that was so long until i shit enter
[06:30] <bryon> hit*
[06:31] <Jordan_U> bryon: Your original message was cut off at "does anyone think it could have".
[06:31] <bryon> does anyone think it  could have been damaged by the computer possibly failing to suspend properly?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> bryon, possibly ...
[06:31] <santhosh> hai iam install kolab on ubuntu how to change directory manager password
[06:32] <cfhowlett> bryon, odor of burning electrical components?
[06:32] <Tom1> cfhowlett: is a swap partition really needed in unbutu installation? i have 4 gb ram and i use lightweight programs
[06:32] <Jordan_U> bryon: I don't see how a good power supply could be damaged by suspending.
[06:32] <bryon> cfhowlett: there may have been, but i didn't arrive back on the scene until ~12 hours after i told it to suspend
[06:32] <bryon> Jordan_U: i agree, but i'm curious whether the OS failed somewhere in the process of suspending
[06:33] <Jordan_U> bryon: It may have, but I don't see how it could fail in a way that would damage hardware.
[06:34] <bryon> Jordan_U: i also suspect that the power i draw is perhaps not so consistent
[06:34] <Tom1> can a Os damage  a hardware?
[06:35] <bryon> i have experienced power fluctuations/loss on multiple occasions, and i suspect that my power strip doesn't actually offer any protection
[06:35] <santhosh> hai iam install kolab on ubuntu how to change directory manager password
[06:35] <bryon> am considering a UPS with power conditioning
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Tom1: If you want to be able to suspend to disk (hibernate) you need to have swap. It's also nice to have if you do start running out of physical ram for some reason, and has very little downside (basically just the disk space allocated for it when not in use). But no, if you don't want to suspend to disk then you don't need swap.
[06:36] <Tom1>  Jordan_U: thanks for the detailed info.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Tom1: Yes, but only in extremely rare conditions (usually involving buggy hardware).
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Tom1: You're welcome.
[06:38] <Tom1>  Jordan_U:  and if ever such conditions start to arise , the machine will automatically shut itself down.
[06:38] <Tom1> to prevent further damage.
[06:40] <bynarie> hello
[06:40] <bynarie> how to compile source?
[06:41] <cfhowlett> !compile|bynarie,
[06:41] <bynarie> thanks
[06:45] <ezrhino> hello. Will disabling Nvidia X Server Settings from startup have any negative effects ?
[06:49] <glitsj16> ezrhino: that depends on what settings you activated exactly .. but it only starts, sends config values to X and exits, so why are you looking to disable it?
[06:50] <ezrhino> well i figured it wuold make startup faster.
[06:50] <rww> it won't
[06:50] <ezrhino> i have never used the settings other than defualt
[06:50] <ezrhino> ok, ty rww
[06:50] <ezrhino> rw
[06:50] <glitsj16> nah, it does a quick in & out that shouldn't be even noticeable
[06:50] <rww> and runs in parallel with other things, i expect
[06:51] <ezrhino> anything in startup that i can disable for performance ?
[06:57] <burhan> has anyone run into the problem where os-prober is showing Windows partition, but ubiquity doesn't detect it?
[06:57] <Jordan_U> burhan: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[07:00] <waterloo2005> where to upload screenshot?
[07:00] <bryon> imgur is a decent image host
[07:00] <bryon> imgur.com
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !paste|waterloo2005,
[07:07] <bynarie> me
[07:17] <burhan> has anyone run into the problem where os-prober is showing Windows partition, but ubiquity doesn't detect it?
[07:18] <burhan> oops sorry I didn't see your comment @Jordan_U
[07:18] <burhan> be right back from the actual machine having the issue.
[07:19] <Serraphyn> Hi, I had a friend build me a computer with windows 8 but, I really hate windows 8 a lot. My concern is how my components I have i the tower will work with linux
[07:19] <Serraphyn> I have ubuntu 13.10 install right now, but I'm not sure how to check if everything is working right.
[07:19] <cfhowlett> !hardware|Serraphyn,
[07:20] <Serraphyn> Are those links for people new to ubuntu?
[07:21] <cfhowlett> Serraphyn, those links are for people with hardware questions ...
[07:21] <Serraphyn> I'm not sure of what hardware I even have. Is there a program or something that can put out a list?
[07:23] <Serraphyn> Reason I'm wanting to stabilize my system is I can afford to swap out parts if something not 'up to specs'
[07:26] <glitsj16> !hardinfo | Serraphyn .. you can generate a full hardware report using ..
[07:27] <sensae> How do I use Evolution to remind me that a specific event has occured?
[07:27] <glitsj16> Serraphyn: well the bot doesn't know about it, but there's a package called hardinfo that gives what you want
[07:27] <rww> !info hardinfo
[07:29] <rf5> Hello. im getting this message :p:, OpenSSL 0.9.8c 05 Sep 2006 when typing ssh -V , whats going on ?  any ideas?
[07:30] <bryon> ssh version
[07:30] <bryon> do you want verbose mode?
[07:30] <rf5> how do i fix that? i tried apt-get remove ssh and then install, didnt fix
[07:30] <bryon> that is lower-case v
[07:30] <rf5> i want the proper one, saying OpenSSH_4.3p2 blabla
[07:31] <rf5> no idea why its saying :p:
[07:31] <bryon> ah
[07:31] <bryon> me either
[07:31] <cfhowlett> rf5, sudo apt-get purge ssh && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get remove and THEN do your install
[07:31] <rf5> ah ok
[07:31] <rf5> ill try
[07:32] <rf5> E: Invalid operation purge
[07:32] <cfhowlett> apt-get purge ssh
[07:33] <rf5> yes, same thing. invalid operation
[07:33] <rf5> maybe its outdated?
[07:33] <cfhowlett> rf5, nope - use it all the time
[07:33] <cfhowlett> rf5, sudo apt-get purge ssh*
[07:34] <rf5> same thing, saying purge is an invalid operation, i checked apt-get options and there isnt purge there
[07:35] <rf5> i might be running an old version of apt-get?
[07:35] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get --purge remove ssh*
[07:35] <glitsj16> rf5: use the .. remove --purge syntax .. and tell us output of .. cat /etc/issue .. please
[07:35] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, thanks
[07:36] <OerHeks> else you would remover purge without --
[07:36] <glitsj16> oops, wrong syntax, thx OerHeks
[07:37] <rf5> one sec, i just started upgrade, thought it would help lol
[07:38] <Flat4ForLife> anyone available with some knowledge on dual booting ubuntu and macbook pro off of a USB?
[07:39] <rf5> worked with --purge, thanks glitsj16 OerHeks and cfhowlett
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !mac|Flat4ForLife,
[07:41] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: pretty much it is about installing http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ and then booting the OS you want
[07:41] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: after that, it is about having UEFI bootable installation on your USB drive
[07:42] <Flat4ForLife> faugusztin: i have done that, converted the ubuntu image to a img, dd the image to the usb, and when i try to boot from it, it tells me no bootable media found (I'm kind of a linux newb here so just following instructions)
[07:42] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: have you tried unetbootin ? i never used anything else
[07:42] <Flat4ForLife> no i haven't, don't know what it is
[07:42] <faugusztin> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[07:43] <faugusztin> it formats your flash to FAT32, partitions if necessary, then copies files from ISO images over
[07:44] <faugusztin> pretty much the only thing you need for UEFI boot is for the drive to be FAT32 formated and the EFI\boot directory contain a .efi file (bootx64.efi for 64bit i think()
[07:45] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: there's also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[07:45] <helmut_> hi
[07:45] <Flat4ForLife> faugusztin: looking at that now, thanks
[07:46] <Flat4ForLife> glitsj16: i have tried that, but it doesn't work
[07:46] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: the native OS X instructions should do it
[07:47] <Flat4ForLife> again, i have tried that. it doesn't work
[07:47] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: as i said, i simply resized the OS X partition, then installed rEFInd, created my USB stick using unetbootin (Gnome Ubuntu 13.10) on WIndows, plugged USB stick in, restarted mac mini, selected the Linux boot item in rEFInd menu, installed Ubuntu :)
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Flat4ForLife, I installed ubuntu/windows/osx on a DELL with reFind - it does work
[07:50] <Flat4ForLife> cfhowlett: i am not saying that refind doesn't work, it recognizes the USB. however, when i choose it, it tells me it can't find a bootable media. which seems to be a very common thing for macs. i am trying faugusztin's method now
[07:54] <Flat4ForLife> faugusztin: after creating the USB with unetbootin, it tells me "The created USB device will not boot off a Mac. Insert it into a PC, and select the USB boot option in the BIOS boot menu."
[07:54] <Tom1> how do i know if my computer is pae or non pae?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> !pae
[07:55] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: i think they don't expect people having rEFInd installed
[07:55] <Flat4ForLife> oh ok
[07:55] <SonikkuAmerica> I never assume that...
[07:55] <faugusztin> Flat4ForLife: because with standard bootloader, it surely won't boot
[07:55] <Flat4ForLife> well ill try it now, if not ill be back tomorrow or something
[07:55] <Tom1> i mean how do i  find if my computer is pae or non pae.
[07:55] <Flat4ForLife> thanks
[07:55] <OerHeks> Tom1, if " cat /proc/cpuinfo "does not show pae in the flags line for the processor, it isn't
[07:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Tom1: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[07:56] <return0> Anyone know of a tablet which can run regular Ubuntu? I have a BT keyboard that'd go well with it
[07:56] <Tom1> all modern computers are pae or non pae, i mean one which are manufactured after 2008?
[07:57] <OerHeks> Tom1, that does not work that way, some recent processors do not support PAE too
[07:57] <faugusztin> return0: while bay trail tablets boot ubuntu, in most cases it is not usable, os i wouldn't try it
[07:58] <cfhowlett> return0, regular ubuntu is optimized for the desktop.  try ubuntu touch
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !touch
[07:58] <return0> cfhowlett: Can I run a regular desktop on touch?
[07:59] <return0> I basically want a tablet to be an overglorified terminal
[07:59] <cfhowlett> return0, with considerable effort and less than optimal results - yes
[08:00] <dav`> EFI question: Can I wipe all the GPT partitions labeled as EFI or does Ubuntu require some of them (I do not care about dual booting Windows)
[08:02] <dontanswerdave> Don't answer dav
[08:03] <mmaea> hi. i have wifi connection problems. i can see the wifi but keep getting prompted for the password when trying to connect
[08:03] <mmaea> it is definitively the correct password
[08:04] <dav`> http://paste.debian.net/79614/ <= here's a list of my partitions. Is any of this required to be kept for Ubuntu to run or can I wipe all?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> mmaea, change the wifi password and try again
[08:04] <dav`> (ignore dontanswerdave)
[08:04] <mmaea> i tried rebooting the router, enableing this wifi for all users in the settings, deleting the wifi alltogether then rebooting and starting fresh over
[08:05] <masterubuntu> Dav: you should be okay
[08:05] <bryon> mmaea: what is your wifi adapter type? Broacom?
[08:06] <bryon> s/Broacom/Broadcom/
[08:07] <mmaea> bryon: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[08:07] <mmaea> that's what you were looking for right?
[08:08] <bryon> yeah. are you using the Broadcom driver for it?
[08:08] <mmaea> i found one guy in the forums that seemed to have the same issues and it was related to some rights management issues. but the person never went into detail if and how they managed to fix it
[08:08] <mmaea> how can i check the driver?
[08:08] <dav`> Could anyone help with EFI concerns?
[08:09] <mmaea> iwlwifi is loaded according to lsof, so i guess it's not the Broadcom driver
[08:11] <bryon> mmaea: great question.. i am blanking
[08:12] <bryon> hold on a sec
[08:12] <mmaea> how about the rights management angle. could it be that the network daemon is started by a user that can't access the password? smth like this?
[08:12] <faugusztin> dav`: if you don't need any original data, just delete all partitions, boot ubuntu installer in UEFI mode and let it do it's job, if needed it will create the needed partitions
[08:12] <bryon> that's not implausible
[08:12] <dav`> faugusztin: thanks. how to boot it specifically in UEFI mode?
[08:13] <bryon> like if you're storing the password ina  keychain not accessible by all users
[08:13] <bryon> but i'm not 100% certain of that, having never encountered it myself
[08:14] <mmaea> my ubuntu 13.10 install ist completely fresh and vanilly, btw
[08:14] <mmaea> just did it this morning
[08:14] <bryon> i would surprised if it were a permissions problem, then
[08:15] <mmaea> can i start the networking daemon w/ sudo to see if that changes anything?
[08:16] <Prasoon> Hi, i had ubuntu 1304 64 bit OS ..then upgraded to 1310 via the update manager. the all went through  good ... but when the system restarted and after i enter the Login password i get "sorry ubuntu 13.10 has experienced an internal error".... CAN somebody help ... ??
[08:16] <bryon> mmaea: you could try it
[08:17] <mmaea> how?
[08:18] <bryon> mmaea: oh, i don't know, it sounded like you did
[08:18] <bryon> sorry
[08:19] <bryon> mmaea: do a lspci -k | grep -A 2 and see what driver is currently in use
[08:19] <bryon> errr
[08:19] <bryon> mmaea: do a lspci -k | grep -A 2 Network
[08:20] <Beldar> Prasoon, Can you be more detailed, is the desktop showing and working, and which de is it? Is this a apport popup?
[08:21] <Prasoon> Beldar, it is just a pop up and ther are no icons or bars
[08:22] <mmaea> bryon: "Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi"
[08:22] <Beldar> Prasoon, Do you need to load a graphic driver to get the desktop.....which is which one?
[08:23] <bryon> mmaea: well, that driver DOES support your wireless device, according to the internet
[08:23] <bryon> so i officially got nothin
[08:23] <bryon> um
[08:24] <Prasoon> Beldar,i am not an expert, but previously wheni upgraded to 1304... there was no additional graphic driver loaded
[08:24] <bryon> can you make you wireless password-free and connect?
[08:24] <bryon> mmaea: ^^
[08:25] <Beldar> Prasoon, Not sure myself.
[08:25] <bryon> like, connect to your router w/ a cable and remove the password?
[08:25] <Prasoon> Beldar,is there a way to open the terminal .. like some shortcut key ??
[08:26] <bryon> if you can, that would suggest to me that your wireless actually WORKS and there is a problem somewhere with your configuration
[08:26] <Beldar> Prasoon, try ctrl-alt-t
[08:26] <bryon> like maybe the password is correct, but you're trying to connect w/ WEP instead of WPA2 or something
[08:26] <Prasoon> Beldar, nope
[08:27] <Prasoon> Beldar ,is there any possibility of recovering my system ??
[08:28] <Beldar> Prasoon, You can go to a tty with ctrl-alt-f1 that is a off the desktop command line and come back with f2-f7
[08:28] <Beldar> f2-to f-7
[08:28] <Prasoon> Beldar, i got a screen
[08:29] <Beldar> Prasoon, Actually come back with ctrl-alt-f7. You gotta screen means?
[08:29] <Prasoon> seems like a different kind of terminal screen
[08:30] <Beldar> Prasoon, the tty is black it is the same command control of the terminal.
[08:31] <Prasoon> ok.... can i undo the upgrade or re do the update from here ??
[08:31] <Beldar> Prasoon, yes, and anything else from a desktops terminal does
[08:31] <Beldar> Prasoon, ER no undo upgrade sorry
[08:32] <Prasoon> is it possible for you to guide me ??
[08:32] <Beldar> Prasoon, Try sudo apt-get -f install that will finish any updates that may not have. Otherwise this is a problem you would need other helpers with.
[08:34] <Prasoon> ok .. it seems to do something ...
[08:36] <Beldar> Prasoon, Is it finishing upgrades?
[08:40] <dst_> good evening.  can anyone help me with an ubuntu version issue?
[08:40] <bryon> mmaea: someone can, i'm sure
[08:40] <bryon> err
[08:40] <bryon> dst_: someone can, i'm sure
[08:41] <bryon> what is your issue?
[08:41] <dst_> I have a student who installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on his netbook.  But something is screwy.  He's getting a 3.8.0-33 kernel.
[08:41] <dst_> Why is he getting that kernel?  When I install I get a 3.5.0 kernel.
[08:41] <k1l> dst_: its the enablement stack
[08:41] <ring3> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.game.platforms.planetsdemo
[08:41] <Ben64> dst_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[08:41] <dst_> Also, he's getting a device driver whose vermagic syas 3.8.0-35 instead of 3.8.0-33
[08:41] <Beldar> dst_, 12.04.3 release has that kernel, part of a kernel stack release for the LTS.
[08:41] <k1l> dst_: they changed to newer kernel because of the old kernal samsung issue
[08:42] <dst_> lemme go read that page...
[08:42] <bryon> dst_: see? someone was able to help. =]
[08:42] <Prasoon> its progressing...
[08:43] <dst_> well he's got a device driver that doens't match the kernel, which is causing him problems.
[08:43] <k1l> ring3: no ads in here, please
[08:43] <ring3> oks
[08:43] <ring3> is a html5 android game
[08:44] <dst_> if he does "modinfo gspca_ov534" the vermagic string says 3.8.0-35 but his kernel is 3.8.0-33
[08:44] <ordroid> will 14.04 work with secure boot and uefi?
[08:44] <dst_> that can't work, right?
[08:44] <Beldar> !14.04 | ordroid
[08:45] <Vivekananda> I am trying a sudo chown -R user a/b/c/*  to change ownership of folder C and its contents to user but on ls -la I still see  user root
[08:45] <ordroid> yes or no
[08:45] <Tom1> can i boot a non-pae os in a pae machine?
[08:45] <k1l> ordroid: no support for dev versions in here :)
[08:46] <bryon> Vivekananda: chown user:user
[08:46] <bekks> Tom1: PAE is an OS facility, not a machine facility.
[08:47] <bryon> Vivekananda: sudo chown user:user -R a/b/c/* is what you want, i think
[08:48] <dst_> how can he fix the issue with his gspca_ov534 driver having the wrong vermagic string?
[08:48] <k7jkz> want to change device/computer name
[08:49] <bekks> dst_: The only way is to recompile the module.
[08:50] <dst_> bekks: but doesn't this mean that ubuntu is shipping the wrong module?
[08:50] <k1l> dst_: are you sure there was no fiddeling before?
[08:50] <dst_> bekks: this kid doesn't know how to compile kernel modules; he didn't bring this problem on himself.
[08:50] <k1l> which module is that for what hardware?
[08:51] <Vivekananda> I am trying a sudo chown -R user a/b/c/*  to change ownership of folder C and its contents to user but on ls -la I still see  user root . all directories have ls -la like this  -rwxr-xr-x 1 user root  97319556 Jan  3 18:03
[08:51] <dst_> gspca_ov534 supports the Sony Eye webcam
[08:51] <dst_> He's actually using this on a robot; the webcam is the robot's eye.
[08:52] <dst_> I don't think he did anything screwy, just installed Ubuntu and ran the update-manager.
[08:52] <bekks> Vivekananda: You didnt change the group-
[08:52] <dst_> So how did he end up with a device driver that doesn't match the kernel version?
[08:52] <Prasoon> Beldar, should i execute any other command ??
[08:52] <bekks> dst_: We dont know how he got that module.
[08:52] <Vivekananda> isnt the first one the name and then the groun ?
[08:53] <dst_> bekks, is there an easy way to get him the proper module, without him having to recompile it himself?
[08:53] <Vivekananda> I tried doing sudo chown -R user:user a/b/c/*
[08:53] <bekks> Vivekananda: you didnt specify a second one, as you told above.
[08:53] <bekks> dst_: No.
[08:53] <Prasoon> it said 2 added & 3 removed  and waiting at command prompt for an input ... what should i do next ??
[08:53] <bekks> dst_: We dont know how he got the module so the generic answer is "recompile the module".
[08:54] <dst_> bekks, another screwy thing is that his "uname -a" is still showing 12.04.3 instead of 12.04.4.  When I run update manager on my Ubuntu machines I end up at 12.04.4.
[08:54] <dst_> bekks, why isn't he migrating to 12.04.4?
[08:54] <bekks> dst_: Then he didnt run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo init 6
[08:54] <dst_> no, he did apt-get update and then update-manager
[08:55] <bekks> dst_: Which doesnt update the kernel.
[08:55] <dst_> It seems to update the kernel when I run it
[08:55] <bekks> dst_: Then fix that issue if you know it better :)
[08:56] <dst_> I'm just wondering why I'm seeing different behavior than him.
[08:56] <bekks> dst_: I explained it to you.
[08:56] <dst_> Well, I'll tell him to try the dist-upgrade thing.
[08:56] <dst_> what's the purpose of "init 6"
[08:56] <bekks> dst_: rebooting the box, to run the new kernel.
[08:57] <dst_> why not just type "reboot"?  is "init 6" faster?
[08:57] <bekks> dst_: On linux, both do exactly the same.
[08:57] <dst_> oh, okay.  thanks for answering my questions.  we'll try the dist-upgrade
[08:57] <Vivekananda> bekks: when I say sudo chown -R alex:alex folder  does this not mean that I am changing both user and group to alex ?
[08:58] <bekks> Vivekananda: Yes, and it requires the user alex to be existing, as well as the group named alex.
[08:59] <bryon> sorry, i was in another channel.
[08:59] <bryon> Vivekananda: what bekks said
[09:00] <Prasoon> Beldar;thank you very much .... i worked ... Thank you very much...
[09:01] <Vivekananda> okay also what does -rwxr-xr-x 1 alex root  97319556 Jan  3 18:03 this demonstrate ?  after executing that command on the same folder ?
[09:02] <bekks> Vivekananda: You just pasted the first part of the line - the second part is important, too.
[09:03] <bryon> Vivekananda: that is telling you the permission, user, group, filesize and modification date of that file
[09:04] <bryon> file permissions are Read, Write, and eXecute for user, group, and other
[09:05] <bryon> so -rwxrw-r-- means the user that owns the file has read write and execute permissions, the group just has read and write, and others can only read
[09:05] <Vivekananda> bryon: I know the second part too . but I am trying so many times to change the "user" to root but somehow it is not changing
[09:05] <bekks> bryon: r-x means: only read and execute permissions.
[09:05] <Ben64> Vivekananda: you said you were trying to change it to user
[09:06] <bekks> Vivekananda: Then name the exact command you are using. No examples, the very exact command YOU are using.
[09:06] <Vivekananda> Ben64: sorry I was trying to change it to root. It is already a user
[09:06] <bryon> bekks: yeah, i was explaining my example, but yeah
[09:06] <Ben64> then.... use root in the command instead of alex
[09:07] <Vivekananda> sudo chown -R root /media/Yojimbo/alts
[09:07] <bekks> Vivekananda: That doesnt change the group at all.
[09:07] <Devil> hi
[09:07] <bryon> Vivekananda: sudo chown -R root:root /media/Yojimbo/alts
[09:09] <Vivekananda> I tried that : sudo chown -R root:root /media/Yojimbo/alts
[09:10] <bekks> Vivekananda: And...?
[09:10] <k7jkz> what text editor(s) may i run at command line? trying to edit /etc/hostname to new name
[09:10] <bekks> k7jkz: nano, vi, emcas, joe, ed, and many more.
[09:10] <Ben64> k7jkz: nano, vim, edit, hexedit
[09:10] <k7jkz> tks will try
[09:10] <bryon> Vivekananda: whatever user you're logged in as will need sudo permissions
[09:10] <elladeea> :(
[09:10] <elladeea> i connot install adobe on ubuntu 12.4
[09:11] <Vivekananda> and after that ls -la /media/Yojimbo/alts   :  -rwxr-xr-x 1 alex root      6144 Dec 14 06:03 Thumbs.db
[09:11] <bekks> !flash | elladeea
[09:11] <bekks> Vivekananda: Is that a FAT32 filesystem?
[09:11] <bekks> Vivekananda: Or NTFS?
[09:11] <Vivekananda> bryon: I understand that and provided the necessary permissions
[09:11] <Vivekananda> it is ntfs
[09:11] <OerHeks> bekks +1
[09:11] <bekks> Vivekananda: Then you cant change permissions with chmod.
[09:12] <Vivekananda> owww shoot
[09:12] <bryon> haha, that will do it
[09:12] <Vivekananda> but how did you guess that !!
[09:12] <bekks> Vivekananda: Blame it on Microsoft not providing POSIX cpabilities to that filesystem.
[09:12] <Vivekananda> blamed Microsoft !!
[09:12] <Ben64> wait, what filesystem is it
[09:12] <Vivekananda> microsoft you idiot !
[09:12] <bekks> Vivekananda: Thumbs.db is a Windows file.
[09:12] <bekks> Ben64: NTFS.
[09:12] <Ben64> oh, could have saved a LOT of time
[09:12] <Guest71170> I have a very strange installation lsb_rLSB Version:	core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-amd64:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-amd64:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-amd64:security-4.1-noarch
[09:12] <Guest71170> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[09:12] <Guest71170> Description:	Bodhi 2.3.0
[09:12] <Guest71170> Release:	12.04
[09:12] <Guest71170> Codename:	preciseelease -a gives me this :
[09:12] <FloodBot1> Guest71170: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <bryon> ha ha, i didn't even read all the way to the end of the line
[09:13] <Vivekananda> so there is no way to change permissions there ?
[09:13] <k7jkz> guess my regular admin password does not work for su...
[09:13] <bryon> i was looking just at the user:group
[09:13] <Ben64> Vivekananda: ntfs has funky permissions, they don't work with others
[09:13] <bekks> Vivekananda: There are. BY using the mount command.
[09:13] <bekks> !ntfs | Vivekananda
[09:13] <Ben64> !root | k7jkz
[09:13] <Guest71170> But my installation is Ubuntu 13.10
[09:13] <bekks> Guest71170: USe a pastebin please.
[09:14] <Ben64> Guest71170: sorry, but we don't support bodhi linux here
[09:14] <Guest71170> yes I saw it thanks
[09:14] <bekks> Guest71170: And you are not using Ubuntu, but Bodhi linux.
[09:14] <gordonjcp> k7jkz: use sudo instead of su
[09:14] <Guest71170> No i'm using Ubuntu
[09:14] <Guest71170> just a very strange installation
[09:14] <gordonjcp> k7jkz: root passwords are obsolete, we've had sudo for 20 years
[09:14] <Ben64> Guest71170: it says bodhi, that doesn't happen on ubuntu
[09:14] <bekks> Guest71170: your paste clearly states you are using bodhi.
[09:15] <OerHeks> bodhi has its own issues
[09:15] <elladeea> bekks,  adobe photoshop
[09:15] <Guest71170> My installation is Ubuntu 13.10, the lsb_release shows what I just pasted earlier and when doing a sudo do-release-upgrade it has upgrading someof it to Quantal but not all
[09:15] <Guest71170> If I were using Bodhi I would go there for help and not here right?
[09:15] <bekks> Guest71170: So you are using Bodhi linux, not Ubuntu.
[09:15] <Swarnava> i have dell laptop which was came preinstalled with ubuntu, i installed windows 8 and now i cant boot to my ubuntu anymore
[09:15] <Swarnava> can anyone help me out?
[09:16] <Ben64> !fixgrub | Swarnava
[09:16] <Guest71170> No i am using Ubuntu i've made that clear its a STRANGE installation are we paying attention?
[09:16] <bekks> !dualboot | Swarnava
[09:16] <Guest71170> thats why I am here requesting assistance
[09:16] <Ben64> Guest71170: no matter how many times you say it, it does not make it true
[09:16] <Guest71170> oh brother
[09:16] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:16] <cristian_c> How can I use dbus-monitor to check if devices are announced?
[09:17] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:17] <Ben64> Guest71170: ok then, pastebin the following... "cat /etc/issue" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" "uname -a"
[09:17] <vqoley> hello
[09:17] <Guest71170> The purpose of coming to a room like this is to seek advice and help.  There are many rooms like this If I were using Bodhi I would go to a Bodhi room its not difficult to do that.  HOwever I am NOT USING BODHI I am using UBUNTU 13.10
[09:17] <k7jkz> okay i'm reading and getting up-to-date
[09:17] <Guest71170> thanks Ben64
[09:17] <Guest71170> just a mo
[09:17] <vqoley> i have stuck for 2 week about installation openvpn on ubuntu openvz
[09:18] <Guest71170> cat /etc/issue gives me this : Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[09:18] <Ben64> Guest71170: use a pastebin, put em all together
[09:19] <vqoley> so, anyone have tutorial how to install openvpn on ubuntu openvz with user pass from mysql?
[09:19] <Guest71170> what is pastebin?
[09:19] <bekks> !pastebin | Guest71170
[09:19] <bryon> http://www.pastebin.com
[09:20] <vqoley> ?
[09:20] <Guest71170> im not installing anything else untill i've resolved this first sorry.  I'll just do it the hard way for now
[09:20] <Ben64> install? its a website
[09:20] <bryon> it's a web site, mate
[09:20] <cristian_c> loll
[09:21] <Guest71170> I dont trust u sorry
[09:21] <cristian_c> lol
[09:21] <Stoneer> hello to all. I connect for the first time but I have not yet learned how to use this tool. I'm listening to now. thanks
[09:21] <Ben64> well don't paste it here, you'll get banned
[09:21] <vqoley> ?
[09:23] <Guest71170> anyway from that last output it shows what I am using
[09:24] <cristian_c> Guest71170, if you want get hel, you've to use a paste service for your output
[09:24] <cristian_c> *help
[09:24] <Guest71170> oh brother
[09:24] <Guest71170> let me see
[09:27] <Guest71170> So how do I give you the output of this Pastebin thing?
[09:28] <bekks> Guest71170: Give us the URL.-.
[09:28] <Guest71170> ok
[09:28] <Guest71170> http://pastebin.com/v24z1kDR
[09:28] <Guest71170> that ok?
[09:29] <bryon> so what was your question, Guest71170 ?
[09:29] <Ben64> thats like... half of what i asked for, and it still says bodhi there....
[09:29] <Guest71170> it seems some where when I was upgrading or installing some mess happened
[09:30] <Guest71170> no it says both if u LOOK
[09:30] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:31] <bekks> Guest71170: Pastebin the entire output of "sudo apt-get update" please.
[09:31] <repozitor> when i add new user by
[09:31] <repozitor> "sudo adduser --home /home/SBUASM92B/user1/ --shell /bin/bash SBUASM92B"
[09:31] <repozitor> it tell to me
[09:31] <repozitor> Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured...
[09:31] <Guest71170> just a sec forgot to add one of the outputs
[09:31] <repozitor> how to fix it?
[09:31] <Ben64> repozitor: you can't have SBUASM92B as a username
[09:32] <repozitor> is this right?
[09:32] <repozitor>  /home/SBUASM92B$ sudo adduser --home /home/SBUASM92B/user1/ --shell /bin/bash user1 SBUASM92B
[09:33] <bekks> repozitor: No.
[09:33] <Ben64> what are you trying to do?
[09:33] <repozitor> my desire username is user1, and it group is SBUASM92B
[09:33] <bekks> repozitor: omit the SBUASM92B at the end.
[09:33] <Guest71170> here you go
[09:33] <Guest71170> http://pastebin.com/DTJfcYxt
[09:34] <repozitor> bekks, look carefully, there are SBUASM92B at the end of command
[09:34] <Ben64> repozitor: get rid of the uppercase letters in usernames and groups too
[09:34] <bekks> Guest71170: Thats not the entire output of "sudo apt-get update".
[09:34] <bekks> repozitor: And thats wrong.
[09:34] <Guest71170> no i'm doing that now
[09:34] <bekks> repozitor: Remove that from the end of the line.
[09:34] <repozitor> Ben64, you say that we can't have groups with uppercase?
[09:34] <bekks> repozitor: correct.
[09:34] <repozitor> hhhm, ok, but i can't assign a group name after adduser :D
[09:35] <repozitor> how to add a user into a group?
[09:35] <bryon> repozitor: use --group
[09:35] <q0> Hallo. My ubuntu is connected via wlan0 and I'm trying to route with eth0 to another device, how can I debug/troubleshoot what I'm doing wrong
[09:35] <bryon> when you add the user
[09:35] <repozitor> bryon, in adduser?
[09:35] <bekks> repozitor: use -g
[09:35] <bryon> or -g
[09:35] <bekks> repozitor: In adduser, yes.
[09:35] <repozitor> -g or —group?
[09:35] <bryon> sudo adduser --home /home/SBUASM92B/user1/ --shell /bin/bash --group groupname
[09:35] <Guest71170> and here u go sudo apt-get-update job
[09:35] <repozitor> ok
[09:35] <Guest71170> http://pastebin.com/ZGpcRxfW
[09:35] <bekks> repozitor: -g or --group
[09:35] <bryon> oops, and then the username
[09:36] <bryon> you can also add a user to a group AFTER it has been created
[09:36] <repozitor> bekks, user should feed after a group name or befor it?
[09:36] <Guest71170> its a real mess
[09:36] <OerHeks> Guest71170, bad idea to mix quantal & saucy repositorys
[09:36] <Ben64> Guest71170: so what is it you want to do?
[09:36] <repozitor> bryon, i know it will possible, but i don't know how to do it
[09:36] <bekks> Guest71170: That box is totally messed up. It tells it is a hybrid ubuntu/bodhi, and it incorporates repos from three different ubuntus. Reinstall it.
[09:36] <bryon> repozitor: usermod -g groupname username
[09:36] <Guest71170> I did sudo do-release-upgrade and that happened all on its own
[09:36] <Ben64> eh, bekks is absolutely correct
[09:37] <Guest71170> yes thats why i am here lol
[09:37] <Guest71170> trying to figure out what happened
[09:37] <bekks> repozitor: the order doesnt matter, as long as the username is at the very end.
[09:37] <bekks> Guest71170: I just told you :) Someone mixed it all up - and now its all messed up.
[09:37] <Guest71170> Is there someway to downgrade safely or clear out unwanted packages etc etc etc?
[09:37] <q0> I want an answer from you right now
[09:37] <bekks> Guest71170: Reinstall. There is no safe way to downgrade.
[09:37] <Guest71170> I dont believe that to be true
[09:38] <OerHeks> Guest71170, there is no way you can upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 by do-release-upgrade, you must have done something else
[09:38] <cristian_c> lol
[09:38] <Guest71170> there is a way
[09:38] <bekks> !attitude | q0
[09:38] <bryon> i didn't even see a question from q0
[09:38] <Ben64> Guest71170: it is very true, and you have some weird bodhi/ubuntu hybrid anyway, so you need to install fresh with whichever distribution you want
[09:38] <bekks> Guest71170: If you dont believe it - find a way. Or just listen to what people tell you.
[09:38] <Guest71170> I have seen something about downgrading online but it isnt very clear, figured u experts might know alittle more
[09:38] <elladeea> Hi, how i create a USB bootable using a .iso in ubuntu?
[09:38] <Guest71170> thats too easy
[09:39] <bryon> Guest71170: the experts are telling you that it is better to reinstall than attempt a downgrade
[09:39] <Guest71170> and fresh installation isnt an option
[09:39] <bekks> Guest71170: Then find you own way if you dont like the answers you get from "the experts".
[09:39] <bekks> Guest71170: fresh install is the only option.
[09:39] <gordonjcp> q0: thing is, I *could* answer that question but that whole "I want an answer right now" disqualifies you
[09:39] <Guest71170> the experts arent very expert from the looks of it
[09:39] <Guest71170> so thanks anyway
[09:39] <Ben64> Guest71170: then feel free to leave
[09:39] <Guest71170> ciao
[09:39] <q0> gordonjcp, you didn't anyway so who cares
[09:39] <cristian_c> lol
[09:39] <OerHeks> Guest71170, there is no way  to downgrade, backup your data, and reinstall
[09:39] <gordonjcp> !attitude | q0
[09:39] <Guest71170> yes there is OerHeks
[09:39] <bekks> Guest71170: Bye. Hope do dont read you anymore then.
[09:40] <bekks> *to
[09:40] <Guest71170> would u like the web page?
[09:40] <gordonjcp> Guest71170: have at it and good luck
[09:40] <Ben64> Guest71170: then follow the webpage, just don't come back here when its more broken
[09:40] <Guest71170> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/how-to-downgrade-proposed-repository.html
[09:40] <Guest71170> there u go
[09:40] <gordonjcp> Guest71170: you might as well attempt to downgrade.  You *can't* downgrade successfully, but it might work
[09:40] <Ben64> we still don't care
[09:41] <Guest71170> So you obviously dont know what you are talking about : )
[09:41] <Guest71170> ciao
[09:41] <gordonjcp> Guest71170: doing what it says on that page will break your system
[09:41] <q0> I know you're not gonna help me next time, I'll register a new account
[09:41] <q0> or just check the manual and help me already
[09:42] <bekks> q0: Rethink your attitude instead registering a new account.
[09:42] <q0> I did and I think I might have to apologise
[09:42] <bryon> q0: or you could check the manual and help yourself
[09:42] <OerHeks> q0, maybe repeating your issue can solve this argument
[09:42] <q0> Hallo. My ubuntu is connected via wlan0 and I'm trying to route with eth0 to another device, how can I debug/troubleshoot what I'm doing wrong
[09:42]  * bryon didn't even see an initial question from q0
[09:42] <bryon> ah there it is
[09:42] <OerHeks> !ics
[09:44] <cristian_c> Another question:
[09:44] <cristian_c> I'm using Opera 12.16
[09:45] <cristian_c> I've installed mozplugger to see pdf documents embedded in the browser
[09:45] <cristian_c> but I can't use keyboard with mozplugger
[09:45] <cristian_c> same problem with chromium
[09:47] <cristian_c> I've changed a line in /etc/mozpluggerrc.d/62-documents.conf
[09:48] <cristian_c> from: repeat noisy swallow(evince) fill needs_xembed: evince "$file"
[09:48] <cristian_c> to:
[09:48] <cristian_c> repeat noisy swallow(evince) fill: evince "$file"
[09:49] <cristian_c> but If I open /etc/mozpluggerrc, I can see repeat noisy swallow(evince) fill needs_xembed: evince "$file" again
[09:50] <recep> q
[09:50] <cristian_c> How can I tell to mozplugger to apply changes also in /etc/mozpluggerrc?
[09:50] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:57] <artium> Hey, everyone.. anyone know how to install wine on ubuntu 12.04 64bit ? im trying for 2 days and it wont install.. :(
[09:57] <CavemanZipper> What kinda problems are you having? :P
[09:58] <onto> Hi! I am having some issues with sound under ubuntu. I get the following error messages: http://pastebin.ca/2611918 and no sound
[09:58] <onto> AFAIK, the issue came up after an apt-get autoremove and a reboot.
[09:59] <artium888> i cant send here
[09:59] <artium888> blah.. now it works..
[09:59] <artium888> CavemanZipper: idk.. it needs alot of dependencies and stuff but they wont install either
[10:01] <artium888> CavemanZipper: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gWjeVKBH
[10:04] <artium888> Does anyone know how can i fix it ? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gWjeVKBH
[10:10] <Davidov> hi to all
[10:10] <artium888> Does anyone know how can you fix the bug on ubuntu 12.04 64bit ? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gWjeVKBH
[10:10] <Davidov> I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, but starting the process the screen start ti blink in red green blue colors
[10:11] <Davidov> how to go on ?
[10:11] <aurete> hii.... every time i play the amarok music player i get a message "file protocol died unexpectedly"..what does that mean??
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> artium888: maybe clear apt-get cache and apt-get update?
[10:12] <artium888> lotuspsychje: did everything..
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> artium888: purge wine and reinstall?
[10:13] <artium888> i dont have it ..
[10:13] <artium888> lotuspsychje: nothing to purge
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> artium888: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223237/unable-to-correct-problems-you-have-held-broken-packages
[10:14] <artium888> lotuspsychje: im downgrading now to solve it
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> aurete: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518471
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> Davidov: maybe try nomodeset?
[10:18] <Davidov> lotuspsychje--> I'll try TnX
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Davidov
[10:19] <aurete> lotuspsychje: thanks
[10:19] <Davidov> TnX to all ... I'm going to re-boot
[10:19] <artium888> lotuspsychje: bleh.. nothing works!
[10:20] <artium888> lotuspsychje: thats sucks..
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> artium888: how about install synaptic, to see what packages are on hold
[10:20] <artium888> lotuspsychje: i did the "dpkg --get-selections | grep hold" command, theres nothing on hold
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> artium888: try installing wine from synaptic, see what it does
[10:21] <artium888> lotuspsychje: alright
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> artium888: you sure you tryed a sudo apt-get update right?
[10:22] <artium888> lotuspsychje: its a replacement for ubuntu software center ?
[10:22] <artium888> lotuspsychje: yeah im 100% sure
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> !info synaptic | artium888
[10:22] <artium888> lol nice :P
[10:23] <artium888> !info apt-get
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> !apt-get | artium888
[10:24] <bekks> artium888: apt-get is installed by default.
[10:24] <elladeea> Hi, i try to create a boot usb ( with startup disk creator ) when i select the iso... ( i select the iso but not apper in table ... ) and not work to marke usb..
[10:24] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys when I am checking if my swap is working with swapon -s
[10:24] <artium888> bekks: yeah i know i just wanted to test the !info thing
[10:24] <Psil0Cybin> I get this, is this normal? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854335/
[10:24] <Psil0Cybin> how can I make sure that my linux swap is working properly?
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> it keeps saying Used 0
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> no matter what.
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> !swap | Psil0Cybin
[10:25] <artium888> lotuspsychje: alright so, synaptic wants to remove alot of packages in order to install wine. is it ok ?
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> lotuspsychje: so does ito nly get used, when my system is full? or does it constantly put files to swap?
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> to make the system faster because my system load increases
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> but my swap is still at 0%
[10:25] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It is shown, it works. It is not in use currently.
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> artium888: if you dont see packages you really dont need, its good to go..
[10:26] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: but it will be used when it needs to be used correct? or is something not configured properly.
[10:26] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: swap will never increase system performance. It will slow down things.
[10:26] <Psil0Cybin> what does priority -1 mean?
[10:26] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It will slow down things, but allow you to use more memory than you have physically installed. thats what swap is for,
[10:26] <artium888> lotuspsychje: i dont get it .. synaptic wants to uninstall filezilla..
[10:26] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: -1 means -1.
[10:27] <artium888> lotuspsychje: could you help me over teamviewer ? please.
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> artium888: sorry i dont remote, i would try what synaptic asks
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> artium888: you can install filezilla manually later right
[10:28] <Psil0Cybin> so  bekks is everything running okay? I am assuming swap will be used when it needs too, I am just trying to double check that everything is working properly in my server :D so I will not have to go back later type of thing to fix these issues
[10:28] <artium888> lotuspsychje: but theres like 1000 packages that synaptic wants to remove
[10:28] <artium888> lotuspsychje: is it normal ?
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> artium888: hum
[10:28] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Pastebin free -m please.
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> artium888: you only trying to install wine?
[10:29] <artium888> lotuspsychje: yup
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> artium888: not sure thats normal
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> artium888: what else does it want to uninstall?
[10:30] <artium888> lotuspsychje: its a list of like 80 packages
[10:30] <artium888> lotuspsychje: libreoffice and stuff
[10:30] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: swapon -m?
[10:30] <artium888> and the music player
[10:30] <artium888> alot of things
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> artium888: did you ignored updates for a long time?
[10:30] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: No. I said: free -m
[10:30] <Psil0Cybin> woops silly me one second
[10:31] <artium888> lotuspsychje: nope, its a fresh installation of ubuntu.. and its up-to-date
[10:31] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854354/
[10:31] <elladeea> Hi, unetbootin not have option for windows distribution why!?
[10:31] <bekks> elladeea: Because you cant create live windows media.
[10:32] <elladeea> i want to create a boot windows usb
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> artium888: not sure mate, i would try what synaptic asks, see what it does
[10:32] <bekks> elladeea: you cant.
[10:32] <elladeea> serious?
[10:32] <elladeea> why
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> artium888: worst case scenario is a reinstall :p
[10:32] <bekks> elladeea: Ask Microsoft why they do not support that.
[10:32] <elladeea> huh
[10:32] <artium888> lotuspsychje: lol, im kinda new to ubuntu.. that would take me alot of time to fix
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> elladeea: you can use winusb from ubuntu to burn a win7 to usbstick
[10:33] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: looking at what it outputted, it looks like it is working just not being used as of yet...
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> elladeea: but we really recommend you to stay on ubuntu right :p
[10:34] <Psil0Cybin> because who needs windows 7+ anyway.
[10:34] <elladeea> but not work a lot of programs
[10:34] <elladeea> adobe photoshop
[10:34] <elladeea> corel
[10:34] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Then show us the output.
[10:34] <elladeea> etc
[10:34] <artium888> lotuspsychje: oh now that i marked wine.14 for installation it only wants to remove : hhvm, libpurple, libsasl2, telepathy-haze, ubuntu-desktop.. so its good ?
[10:34] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854354/
[10:34] <bekks> elladeea: Use a virtual machine.
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> artium888: hmm ubuntu-desktop remove is bad idea
[10:35] <Guest47910> Can anyone tell me how to find a kernel number?
[10:35] <Psil0Cybin> uname -r
[10:35] <artium888> lotuspsychje: lol..
[10:35] <artium888> lotuspsychje: i think so
[10:35] <Psil0Cybin> Guest47910: uname -r
[10:35] <Guest47910> sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[10:35] <Guest47910> as in that command
[10:35] <bekks> Guest47910: "uname -r".
[10:35] <elladeea> yes
[10:36] <Guest47910> is it the version of ubuntu im running
[10:36] <Psil0Cybin> that is the kernel you are running Guest47910
[10:36] <artium888> lotuspsychje: i dont want to go back to windows7 ~_~  i kinda liked ubuntu but i need notepad++ for my programming
[10:36] <bekks> Guest47910: No. It is the kernel version you are running.
[10:36] <Psil0Cybin> The version you are running is either 12.04 LTS or 13.04 etc
[10:36] <bekks> Guest47910: lsb_release -a will tell yo the Ubuntu version.
[10:36] <artium888> lotuspsychje: why theres no notepad++ build for linux.. eh...
[10:37] <Guest47910> k thanks
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> artium888: what ubuntu version you have now?
[10:37] <artium888> lotuspsychje: 12.04 64bit
[10:38] <Psil0Cybin> bekks here is the output and pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854354/ sorry you never got back to me I dont want to keep spamming the channel :P
[10:38] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: it looks like it is working
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> artium888: well not sure whats happening to your system, but ubuntu-desktop remove aint good
[10:38] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: you have 7.6GB free RAM - actually that 512M swapfile is a joke :)
[10:38] <artium888> lotuspsychje: should i upgrade to 13.x version ?
[10:38] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Use a swapfile like 8GB, not like 512M.
[10:39] <Psil0Cybin> bah bekks it is not really my server, my boss's do you think it will make a difference / is it worth to go back and remove that swap and make a new one?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> artium888: no i would reinstall 12.04 lts maybe
[10:39] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: is that tiny tiny swap at least working correctly?
[10:39] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It will make a big difference. 512M swap for 8GB RAM is pointless.
[10:40] <Psil0Cybin> just as a reference
[10:40] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Yes, it is working correct.
[10:40] <Guest47910> how much of this is the kernel version?  3.11.0-15-generic
[10:40] <Psil0Cybin> bekks how can I go about removing that swap and creating a new 8 GB one without damaging anything? Not going to lie someone helped me out on here, but I guess we never distinguied how mnuch ram I had...even though we did check the memory.
[10:40] <bekks> Guest47910: "3.11.0-15-generic".
[10:41] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: How did you create it? Remove it, and do it again, with an 8GB file, or even better with a 8GB swap volume.
[10:41] <Guest47910> so i should put all of it into sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet ???
[10:41] <bekks> Guest47910: ls -lha . to see the "<kernel version>".
[10:41] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: I followed this guide actually step by step http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[10:42] <Psil0Cybin> what would be the correct way to remove that swap?
[10:42] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: OMG, a cyberciti guide. I wont read it.
[10:42] <Guest47910> Like this???   sudo cp ./3.11.0-15-generic/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[10:42] <bekks> Guest47910: ls -lha . to see the "<kernel version>".
[10:42] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: so what would be a proper guide of removing the swap I currenctly have and adding the 8GB one you recommended?
[10:43] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: swapoff /yourswapfilename; edit the fstab, remove the file.
[10:44] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Then just create a plain, empty file (most likely using dd), mkswap, swapon /yournewfilename, free -m, edit fstab.
[10:44] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: fine final question; if i leave things like they are, the only thing that will hapepn is eventually I would restart the computer more often than it should be / could be with a properly spaced swap? I just want to understand exactly what a swap does...I know you explained it
[10:45] <prashanth> can somebody help me how to install atheros wireless drivers
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> !ath
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> !atheros
[10:46] <prashanth> yesatheros
[10:46] <prashanth> ihave purchased new aer aspire e1-570 and both lan and wireless are not detected
[10:47] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: for this line, what would I enter for 8gbs "# dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile1 bs=1024 count=524288"
[10:47] <Guest47910> Thanks so much have been trying to di this for days :) will reboot and try it out
[10:48] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=8192
[10:48] <Psil0Cybin> ty
[10:49] <prashanth> no i tried even updating ubuntu using windows
[10:49] <bekks> prashanth: Which will never work.
[10:49] <Psil0Cybin> sorry one last other question bekks when you said edit the fstab, remove the file...what file did you mean what directory is it in? sorry
[10:49] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: /etc/fstab
[10:49] <prashanth> how to update the drivers.
[10:49] <Psil0Cybin> okay the swap is there, or remove the string from that file?
[10:50] <prashanth> @bekks can you help me how to update the wlan drivers
[10:50] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: sorry I know I remove the string from /etc/fstab, but you said remove the file..which file do I remove completely? the swap?
[10:52] <deepcore> Hi guys, I've got weird problem. After ssh-add I receive "Could not open a connection to your authentication agent." and after adding ssh keys manualy I receive "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." Thought it was about perm. but they're ok. Anyone know what might got fucked-up? :)
[10:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Of course the swapfile.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: where is that swapfile located
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> what would be the command to remove it?
[10:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Where you put it.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> of=/swapfile1
[10:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: "rm" removes a file.
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> rm /swapfile1 ?
[10:53] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: ls -lha /
[10:54] <solo> hi..gus.i am a newer
[10:54] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Try to understand what you are doing instead of blindly following commands from whatever guides :)
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854435/
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: sorry I am trying :) I just like to double double and double check
[10:54] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: which costs time, which costs time, which costs time.
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> you are right sorry :( Just help teach me where this swap is located and ill turn off my pester mode aha :P
[10:55] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Look at your paste.
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> so rm /swapfile1
[10:55] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[10:56] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: yes.
[10:58] <artium888> bekks: could you help me with the wine problem ?
[10:58] <bekks> artium888: I never used wine, sorry. In need of Windows, I am using a virtual machine.
[10:59] <artium888> bekks: thats a bad idea when you need a program like notepad++
[10:59] <Psil0Cybin> Thank you bekks !!! great success.
[10:59] <Psil0Cybin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6854457/
[10:59] <artium888> bekks: because you need to work on local files
[10:59] <bekks> artium888: I dont need notepad++ in Linux - in linux, there are lot more capable editors.
[10:59] <bekks> artium888: I am using vi.
[11:00] <artium888> bekks: for programming ?
[11:00] <Psil0Cybin> artium888: hes clearly 1337
[11:00] <dhjw> gedit ftw
[11:00] <bekks> artium888: sure.
[11:00] <bekks> artium888: And eclipse for bigger projects.
[11:00] <dhjw> bluefish is ok but gedit is fine for me
[11:01] <artium888> bekks: i tried sublime.. but they all suck .. i guess im just used to notepad++
[11:02] <artium888> fuck wine....
[11:03] <bekks> artium888: Use a sane editor, not some crap requiring wine.
[11:03] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: is right, why the hell would you use linux just to use wine...
[11:03] <bekks> artium888: and watch your language please.
[11:03] <knightshade> hi
[11:04] <artium888> bekks: yeah but theres so many features in notepad++ that i dont have in linux editors.. like mark brackets and find in files and stuff
[11:04] <artium888> bekks: sorry
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> artium888: have you tried Bluefish or what not for coding?
[11:04] <Psil0Cybin> if you like notepad++
[11:05] <artium888> Psil0Cybin: yeah.. i liked sublime the most but its sucks too
[11:05] <bekks> artium888: All those features are available in linux editors too.
[11:06] <Psil0Cybin> artium888: honestly the only thing that disapointed me about linux editors was nothing compared to dreamweaver, but  I realized now that Dreamweaver is just noob tools.
[11:06] <artium888> Psil0Cybin: lol
[11:06] <Psil0Cybin> i am fine with Kompozer or Bluefish
[11:06] <Psil0Cybin> if really need be lmao :P
[11:06] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: It a gods blessing that there is nothing like dreamweaver in linux.
[11:06] <marcus_> So install WINE and use Notepad
[11:06] <Psil0Cybin> bekks: belive it or not everyone that I know who codes on a PC uses Dreamweaver, juts out of share comfort.
[11:07] <Psil0Cybin> like for PHP
[11:07] <Psil0Cybin> CSS
[11:07] <artium888> marcus_: lmao.. just tell me how to fix that bug..
[11:07] <bekks> Or use gedit which supports all the features mentioned.
[11:07] <Psil0Cybin> web design :S
[11:07] <artium888> Psil0Cybin: visualstudio is the best IDE i've ever used
[11:07] <marcus_> WINE works great on my laptop running Ubuntu
[11:07] <bekks> artium888: LOL
[11:08] <artium888> bekks: yeah yeah.. i hate m$ too but VS is just too comfort
[11:08] <artium888> bekks: its a "dor and TAB" Programming
[11:08] <artium888> bekks: dot*
[11:08] <marcus_> I'd take up being gay b4 I'd go back to Winblows
[11:09] <artium888> marcus_: lol
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> artium888: I haaate ms man with a passion, i have been using strictly linux for a year now :)
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> I saw windows 8, and actually got naucious
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> that was the day i called it quits
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> i wrote a letter to bill gates too.
[11:10] <artium888> Psil0Cybin: yeah win8 is the worst..
[11:10] <Psil0Cybin> said I used windows since 3.2 and that i just called it quits.
[11:11] <Devian> WIn8 is not the worst
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> Oh
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> it is
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> what the hell
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> tiles man?!
[11:11] <bekks> Offtopic is  the worst.
[11:11] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> TILES?!
[11:11] <marcus_> the best way to write a letter to Bill Gates is to stop buying machines with his OS
[11:11] <Devian> dudes
[11:11] <naper_> exit
[11:11] <Devian> you are confusing the core
[11:11] <Devian> with the gui
[11:11] <bekks> Please stop that offtopic chat.
[11:11] <benishor> Hello guys, I'm having a problem with apt-get which is very slow at reading package list. I've straced the process and I see a relative slow reading from the 6th file description
[11:11] <Psil0Cybin> oh woops i thought i was in #offtopic Sorry! bekks!!
[11:11] <Devian> benishor, cpu issue
[11:12] <benishor> Devian: which reads from /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[11:12] <benishor> Devian: why would it be a cpu issue? it hasn't been so far
[11:12] <benishor> the cpu is pretty powerful for reading 30M text files, it's an i3
[11:13] <Devian> benishor interesting
[11:13] <Devian> uhm
[11:13] <benishor> Devian: is there any way to *reset* apt cache or lists or something?
[11:13] <Devian> apt-get clean ?
[11:13] <benishor> apaprently apt-get reads in chunks of 30k and takes quite a lot between reads
[11:13] <bekks> benishor: Define "relatively slow reading" as can be determined by strace. strace doesnt show you any speeds.
[11:14] <Devian> benishor are you accessing your terminal remotely?
[11:14] <benishor> bekks: apt-get update takes about 7 minutes to complete reading package lists
[11:14] <benishor> Devian: no, I'm on the host
[11:14] <Devian> try apt-get clean
[11:14] <benishor> did
[11:14] <bekks> benishor: Then take alook why reading that file is so slow. Investiagte the filesystem, etc.
[11:14] <benishor> no effect
[11:14] <marcus_> Ubuntu Updater takes about 10 seconds
[11:14] <benishor> bekks: and how would I do that?
[11:15] <bekks> benishor: By copying the file to another location and measureing the time. By runnings fsck in the filesystem, etc.
[11:17] <benishor> time cp /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.arlug.ro_pub_ubuntu_ubuntu_dists_saucy_universe_binary-i386_Packages output
[11:17] <benishor> real	0m23.989s
[11:17] <benishor> user	0m0.000s
[11:17] <benishor> sys	0m0.272s
[11:17] <benishor> a bit too much though
[11:17] <bekks> benishor: How big is that file?
[11:18] <benishor> bekks: 30M
[11:18] <marcus_> or you could just run Ubuntu Software Center
[11:18] <bekks> benishor: then run a full fsck.
[11:18] <bekks> marcus_: Which needs to read the same file.
[11:18] <marcus_> yeah..takes 10 seconds to update the lists on my laptop
[11:18] <benishor> bekks: well, the hdd is mounted, how would I do that?
[11:21] <bekks> benishor: Unmount it, then run fsck -f
[11:21] <bekks> marcus_: the speed of operations on your system is out of question - and irrelevant for the issue of benishor.
[11:23] <benishor> bekks: I think I'll use a live cd and attempt to fsck the hdd. thank you for your help
[11:23] <benishor> bekks: what do you suspect to be the culprit?
[11:24] <marcus_> well..I'm just an ex-Windows monkey..I don't have time to type 300 characters in terminal when I can do the same thing clicking one icon
[11:24] <bekks> benishor: A corrupteed filesystem, a heavily fragmented file - that has to be checked.
[11:25] <MindAdrift> Newbie coming through.
[11:26] <benishor> bekks: thanks for your input
[11:33] <linXea> I need help connecting to my university VPN (openconnect / anyconnect). The connection is established and IP is assigned to interface vpn0. The issue is that my datatraffic is NOT routed over vpn0 interface but instead still on wlan0 with my home IP.  What do I need to do? I assume I need to set another gateway (if up choose vpn0 over wlan0).. I have no idea how to do that. I am using network-manager-gnome with plugin for openconnect. Same problem wit
[11:33] <linXea> h ciscos proprietary Anyconnect mobility secure client.  http://pastie.org/8688415 <-- all the info I could think of is in this pastie
[11:37] <SeaCat> Please help me . I Disabled all automatic updates in Ubuntu 12.04, but this ftp.heanet.ie keeps downloading things to my pc. I'm unable to do anything it uses alot of my bandwidth. i tried to block it in firewall with no luck :(
[11:42] <bekks> SeaCat: Kill the download process.
[11:43] <xikofreak> somebody know why ubuntu application are slower than win 7 to start?
[11:44] <bekks> xikofreak: they are different applications - uncomparable.
[11:44] <Naveen> Any 1 knew how to dual boot ubuntu on UEFI boot
[11:44] <SeaCat> bekks how do i do that ? I have to disconnect everytime ftp.heanet.ie starts and its very annoying
[11:44] <bekks> !dualboot | Naveen
[11:44] <xikofreak> but i mean, when i open for example... chronium take a lot of times, something 5-10 sec to start
[11:44] <xikofreak> my pc its a amd 2,6 X2, and 4 gb of ram
[11:44] <bekks> SeaCat: lsof shows you which process is downloading.
[11:45] <bekks> xikofreak: the X2 is about 7 years old.
[11:45] <bekks> Or 10y.
[11:45] <_nedr> hello.. i added a private key (pem file ) using ssh-add.. now i want to remove it.. how to do it
[11:45] <xikofreak> i know.. but.. im using lubuntu with a lightweight desktop, there some way to speed up?
[11:45] <Naveen> @ubottu: It doesn't work on UEFI grub is not installing on UEFI boot
[11:45] <SeaCat> bekks then how do i disable it
[11:46] <bekks> SeaCat: so which process is it...?
[11:47] <SeaCat> ftp.heanet.ie is not showing now, it usually starts every 30 minutes then never stops unless i disconnect the internet
[11:47] <bekks> SeaCat: Then find out in 30 minutes.
[11:48] <SeaCat> bekks how will i know the process
[11:48] <bekks> SeaCat: By looking at the output of lsof.
[11:49] <SeaCat> ok ty, i will check back when ftp.heanet.ie starts again
[11:58] <ud> Hii guys
[11:59] <ud> I am facing some problems while installing ubuntu on my new laptop
[11:59] <ud> can I get any help
[11:59] <ud> ?
[11:59] <bekks> Not without stating the problems :)
[11:59] <ud> :)
[11:59] <ud> sure
[11:59] <ud> I have got a new lenovo G505
[11:59] <ud> with AMD A8
[12:00] <ud> and a readon graphics
[12:00] <phil-ns> uau
[12:00] <phil-ns> yay
[12:00] <bekks> ud: Keep the problem on one sentence please - and enter is not a punctuation sign.
[12:00] <ud> 8750 series
[12:00] <phil-ns> period is, enter no.
[12:00] <bekks> ud: Use full sentences, do not press enter every two words.
[12:02] <ud> My problem is after success full installation when I reboot the system it gets stuck with purple colour screen. What should I do to go beyond this?
[12:02] <phil-ns> ud: you should either get a live cd, or a live usb, plug it in, come back after the show is over.
[12:02] <bekks> !nomodeset | ud
[12:02] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[12:02] <bekks> phil-ns: And then - what does he do with the livecd to solve his problem?
[12:03] <phil-ns> ud: press ctl alt F2
[12:03] <phil-ns> then we do the lightdm blah blah blah, to set the graphical manager.
[12:03] <bekks> phil-ns: "blah blah" reveals you have no clue, dont you?
[12:04] <ud> yes right I downloaded 13.10 live CD and then copying it to pen drive I installed ubuntu. keeping the download updates option selected.
[12:04] <phil-ns> only that I went through it last week due to the inept kernel upgrade
[12:06] <lubuntuer> holla, I have a little problem: I would like to apply this xrandr configuration every time the pc starts up (xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --pos 248x900 --rotate normal --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal). It works when I execute it from the terminal and I have tried to add it to /etc/rc.local, but it doesn't work.
[12:06] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[12:06] <nhhhnman> Hi all, I have created rules in iptables to log and edited the rsyslog.conf file to output any message which contains "iptables" to a different log file. It seems that it is logging to both places, the default messages files and the new iptables.log files i have. How can I log to just the new one? This is the content of the rsyslog file::msg, contains, "iptables"      -/var/log/iptables.log & ~
[12:07] <ud> phil-ns: what you mean by  lightdm blah blah blah? any pointer. what graphic manager should I set. I am a total noob with this
[12:07] <bekks> ud: Dont listen to him.
[12:07] <k1l> ud: try nomodeset as kernel boot parameter
[12:07] <phil-ns> yeah ud, don't listen to me
[12:07] <bekks> ud: Use the nomodeset option as suggested.
[12:08] <phil-ns> bekks answers lots of questions here, and he is always right on the mark.
[12:08] <ud> bekks: where should I set this option? with ctrl+alt+F2?
[12:08] <k1l> !behelpful | phil-ns
[12:09] <k1l> ud:  in grub
[12:09] <phil-ns> yeah, theres my queue to leave since humour is not allowed, ciao
[12:09] <bekks> !nomodeset | ud
[12:10] <LifeThailand> Hi ! I need advice. Ubuntu 12 04 LTS.
[12:10] <LifeThailand> How to make the drop-down wifi list shows the level of network encryption? In windows 7 when I am getting the cursor to any available network, I see information about it.
[12:11] <bekks> LifeThailand: In Ubuntu, you dont. You would have to code it into the sourcecode of the applet.
[12:11] <ud> other observation is when I boot to trial mode through live CD it works great and when I install it from inside trial mode and then reboot after successful installation it gives me black screen. so is it really a problem with graphics card?
[12:11] <LifeThailand> bekks Thanks
[12:12] <lubuntuer> holla, I have a little problem: I would like to apply this xrandr configuration every time the pc starts up (xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1024x600 --pos 248x900 --rotate normal --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal). It works when I execute it from the terminal and I have tried to add it to /etc/rc.local, but it doesn't work.
[12:12] <bekks> ud: Please read the link ubottu gave you twice already.
[12:13] <bergelmir> i am running 12.10 and it seems like my graphics power has drastically degraded since yesterday evening
[12:14] <LifeThailand> Who know any info about Ubuntu 14 04? I need list of future changes :) I can't find what's new in 14 04 in google
[12:14] <k1l> !trusty | LifeThailand
[12:14] <bergelmir> maximizing/minimizing windows is stuttering like hell :(
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> ud  open this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[12:15] <bergelmir> while running "apt-get upgrade" i got an error regarding fglrx. is it possible that fglrx is broken and this causes the stuttering`
[12:16] <repozitor> by adduser i have created new normal users, but
[12:16] <repozitor> these users can see their home, how to prevent they from accessing to the other home?
[12:16] <bekks> bergelmir: Pastebin the full output please..
[12:16] <bekks> repozitor: By setting permissions on the home restricting access from other users.
[12:16] <bekks> repozitor: Most likely, 0700 on the home directory of the user.
[12:17] <repozitor> bekks, chmod username 0700 /directory?
[12:17] <bekks> repozitor: No.
[12:17] <bekks> repozitor: chmod [OPTION]... MODE[,MODE]... FILE...
[12:18] <repozitor> bekks, which part need to be specified with username?
[12:19] <bekks> repozitor: No part. chmod does not use the username, it sets permissions.
[12:19] <bekks> repozitor: You are mixing it up with chown.
[12:19] <bergelmir> bekks: http://pastebin.com/rFCgXsur
[12:19] <repozitor> running
[12:19] <repozitor> sudo chown -R user1:sbuasm92b /home/SBUASM92B/user1
[12:19] <repozitor> then
[12:19] <repozitor> chmod -R /home/SBUASM92B/user1
[12:20] <FloodBot1> repozitor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <repozitor> something like this?
[12:20] <LifeThailand> and... another question: i'll have speech with presentation. Before I not used a computer with Ubuntu there. Tell me, when i connect netbook to projector will not be any problems? The image is projected to the projector?
[12:20] <repozitor> sorry, dear bot :D
[12:20] <bekks> repozitor: No. Totally mixed up. Please read both the man pages for chmod and chown.
[12:20] <repozitor> ok
[12:20] <k1l> LifeThailand: depends on projector, videocard and videodriver. just test it before
[12:21] <LifeThailand> Thanks
[12:21] <bekks> repozitor: Or even better: start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[12:21] <flattyre1> nvidia or radeon graphics adapter? wich is better supported by ubuntu?
[12:22] <bekks> flattyre1: From my experience, nvidia.
[12:23] <user2> :q
[12:23] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[12:25] <flattyre1> ok, thanks. are uefi specialists here?
[12:26] <bekks> flattyre1: Wwhat will happen if someone says "yes" now?
[12:26] <flattyre1> i will ask a question
[12:26] <bekks> flattyre1: Then ask now.
[12:29] <repozitor> bekks, mixed up, can i explain what i do and tell me what was wrong with me?
[12:29] <bekks> repozitor: you mixed up parameters for chmod and chown, and you mixed up what both programs will do.
[12:29] <repozitor> i set ownership home directory of users to username:groupname for every user
[12:29] <bekks> And you are doing it again.
[12:30] <repozitor> then i set chmod  to +u+x+w+r for all home subDirectories
[12:30] <bekks> repozitor: That looks wrong.
[12:30] <repozitor> wait
[12:30] <bekks> repozitor: No. Write less, read more. Now:
[12:31] <bekks> repozitor: chown user:groupofuser1 /home/user1; chmod 0750 /home/user1
[12:32] <bekks> repozitor: That will set ownership of /home/user1 to user1:groupofuser1 and grants read/execute permissions for the group of user1.
[12:32] <flattyre1> on a dualboot system win8/ubuntu12.4. i was able to start Ubuntu as workaround with a supergubDisk. Since win8 autoupdate, booting from cd does not work anymore. without changing the bios settings.
[12:32] <ud> ok, here I am again. I am not getting access to grub configuration by pressing shift key. when i press shift key screen show grub conf for a flash and then the usual purple screen.
[12:32] <ud> also ctrl alt F2 dosent work
[12:33] <SeaCat> bekks its back , but there is so much output in lsof
[12:33] <bekks> SeaCat: Then pastebin it, entirely
[12:35] <repozitor> bekks, hhhhmm, in this way users of group X can read any file of other group member,
[12:35] <repozitor> so i want to each user just access to it's private files, no group member
[12:35] <SeaCat> its slowing down everything pastbin .com is just loading
[12:35] <repozitor> make me no sense!
[12:36] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: then chmod 700 /home/user1                      you really should read the man pages as bekks already suggested
[12:36] <repozitor> ok :D
[12:37] <SeaCat> bekks i cant open any website
[12:37] <repozitor> just tell me my ownership setting is wrong or file permission?
[12:37] <repozitor> i think my ownership setting seems right
[12:37] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[12:39] <ud> ok looks like its working in oem mode installation
[12:39] <repozitor> bekks, got, it
[12:39] <repozitor> thanks you
[12:40] <SeaCat> bekks http://pastebin.com/aby4yzgR
[12:43] <SeaCat> Sorry i have to disconnect the internet its downloading way too much
[12:44] <bekks> SeaCat: lsof -i please
[12:46] <SeaCat-> bekks did you find anything ?
[12:47] <casual_boot> how does memmap= works in newer linux kernels? it does not take into account second memmap= range. 3.5.0-26 Ubuntu x86-64
[12:48] <casual_boot> does grup pass to kernel a second memmap= line?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot: what memmap= param are you giving exactly?
[12:51] <casual_boot> hi MonkeyDust My HD dies with 32-bit LTS 12.04 install, where 2 memmap= lines during boot worked. 2 memmap= ranges I used not to use 2 faulty memory ranges
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  and are those error messages?
[12:52] <SeaCalf_> Does anyone know what Unattended-Upgrades do ?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  i mean: where and when do they appear?
[12:54] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, ubuntu will look for/install updates & reboot if necessary
[12:54] <OerHeks> * without user interaction
[12:55] <casual_boot_> MonkeyDust: same as with 12.04 where it worked. Masking 2 12MB memory ranges. memmap=0x8000000\$0x10000000 and memmap=0x8000000\0x30000000
[12:55] <casual_boot_> 128MB