[17:47] <KenBW22> i plan to install a fresh ubuntu on my dell mini - should i use the default canonical repo's or is there a reason to use Dell's?
[17:47] <suicidepills> lifestream: I don't have a problem with my wireless disconnecting nearly as often as the guy in the original bug report.  it only disconnects and stays disconnected until i restart my computer.  also, it happens randomly...sometimes not at all
[17:47] <harel> any idea what stalls the release of openoffice3?
[17:47] <suicidepills> lifestream: do you think my issue is related anyways?
[17:47] <vigo> Kubuser: I do not do KDE, but I think there is an unlock from panel to move around, but look at forums as it is experimental
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw I have it completed yes. and it works fine.  I needed someone else to look it over and try it
[17:47] <lifestream> mefisto__,  thanks so much for the help, it's *really* apreciated lol. I've read wikis, etc etc, and I know about xev, I just dont know in what order the numbers would go in .xmodmap... sorry I'm .... a ... dummy x__X
[17:47] <diffra> harel: generally ubuntu waits until the next release to do major version upgrades.
[17:47] <mikeshollen> Can someone please help me setup my Mic in Hardy?
[17:48] <harel> diffra, Thanks.
[17:48] <Pici> harel: OOo3 was released way too late in the release cycle for it to be included in Intrepid.
[17:48] <hmw> Jack_Sparrow - aah! i might help, give me a download link. AFAIK, you only need to restore the MBR and maybe check the boot flag, win shoudl then boot up normally again. Seems almost trivial to me.
[17:48] <bartek_> hi
[17:48] <diffra> mikeshollen: maybe provide some more information?  What's working, what's not, what have you tried?
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw http://pastebin.com/f1547267f
[17:49] <lifestream> suicidepills, yes I think so. You think you have to restard your computer, and I thought so too, but you dont. Did you say you knew what driver your card uses? If so, you'd go on a terminal, do sudo modprob YourDriverName   and your wifi *should* work again. That's what happened to me
[17:49] <harel> Pici, I was expecting it to enter as an upgrade once it is defined as stable enough (whatever that means).
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw trivial.. agreed.  but to have a cd with the mbr already on it that lets you boot past the sda mbr and into your install bypassing the changes windows made during the install
[17:49] <lifestream> suicidepills, the 'modprob' will reload your wifi driver
[17:50] <suicidepills> lifestream: how can i find out which driver i'm using?
[17:50] <hmw> Jack_Sparrow - nice project! i have no idea, how booting from a cdrom works in detail. i suspect, a cdrom has its own MBR?
[17:50] <suicidepills> lifestream: i haven't messed with the drivers at all so it should be whatever comes default with ubuntu...
[17:50] <pogay> I use a usb-boot medium. my acer needs a particular monitor-frequency, which is not recognized automatically.  How can I "help" via start-up parameter to take the correct monitor, or xorg.conf?
[17:50] <rockyrock> hi guys, I want to mount a ext3 partition. Should i put "realtime" as an option in fstab?????
[17:51] <cwillu> rockyrock, relatime, not realtime
[17:51] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw that is what the eltorito  is
[17:51] <rockyrock> cwillu: typo!
[17:51] <mikeshollen> diffra: so far, I'm pretty lost.  I have an alienware laptop with an internal mic that worked when I used windows, but not since I've installed ubuntu.  I have gotten into the control panel to turn the mic on, and it's at full volume, but that's about it.  I'm not sure what else to do.
[17:51] <pogay> I' dont like to change the monitor option by hand, as sometimes I boot with another system.
[17:51] <rockyrock> cwillu: so should i put relatime??
[17:51] <diffra> mikeshollen: I'm assuming you've tried it and it doesn't work?
[17:51] <cwillu> rockyrock, it's sensible, yes
[17:52] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw run that script when you get a chance, burn the cd and reboot with the pc set to boot the cd drive and you should see blue grub menu to show you are running off the cd
[17:52] <hmw> Jack_Sparrow - may i PM you about this? i dont know enough to understand all of it and would like to ask some questions
[17:52] <lifestream> suicidepills,  it's ath-something ^^ I don't use the card so I'm not *sure*    What do you get when you type     lsmod | grep ath       in a terminal?
[17:52] <Jack_Sparrow> hmw /join #Jack_Sparrow
[17:52] <[ifroog]> My third question is, How when using qt/kde apps, can i use gtk them on it by default or how do i change kde apps theme from gnome for kde/qt apps eg:- konqueror, kopete etc.. ?
[17:52] <mikeshollen> diffra: I open up sound recorder, and it is set to "Record Input From: Master" and "Record as: Voice, Lossy (Speex Audio)" but it never seems to play back any sound
[17:52] <lifestream> suicidepills, BRB, I'm moving my laptop to another room
[17:52] <rockyrock> cwillu: but after i put the information about the new partitons in fstab sometimes the icons on the desktop disappear after a reboot
[17:53] <g33k_gir1> can anyone help me fix my screen? I need to add a higher resolution than whats available in the gnome display manager, and it seems that I can't see all the colours available to me, even though my xorg.conf is set to 24
[17:53] <rockyrock> cwillu: everything on the desktop disappears, except panels
[17:53] <foo> I addeded the gwibber sources, and I got this: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[17:53] <diffra> input 'master' -- i think that's the master audio *output*
[17:53] <foo> tips?
[17:53] <diffra> could be wrong.
[17:53] <diffra> Maybe try installing audacity?  it has quite a few more options.
[17:54] <mikeshollen> diffra what is audacity
[17:54] <cwillu> rockyrock, next time, start with the actual problem you're having :p
[17:54] <cwillu> rockyrock, sounds like nautilus is crashing
[17:54] <rockyrock> cwillu: this is what i put in fstab: UUID=d355924a-4935-4325-81d4-e41c77521335 /media/Data           ext3    relatime        0       2
[17:54] <suicidepills> lifestream: alright cool
[17:54] <rockyrock> cwillu: this is only happened after i edited fstab
[17:54] <cwillu> rockyrock, you still need to include 'defaults'
[17:55] <thecookie> Hmm. I'm trying to install ubuntu 8.10. The cd boots up fine, I get to chose to install it. I gest stuck and thrown into BusyBox built-in shell (ash)
[17:55] <thecookie> What could be the problem?
[17:55] <KenBW22> i plan to install a fresh ubuntu on my dell mini - should i use the default canonical repo's or is there a reason to use Dell's?
[17:55] <diffra> it's another recording application, more aimed at musicians for recording music, but, the advantage is that it has more options and displays the waveform so you can see if it's actually recording anything.
[17:55] <rockyrock> cwillu: relatime,defaults???
[17:55] <pogay> thecookie: may be rootsystem not found
[17:55] <mikeshollen> diffra: cool, I'll give it a try
[17:56] <foo> how do I get a public key for a source?
[17:56] <cwillu> rockyrock, from my fstab:  UUID=(...) /media/alt ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,relatime 0 1
[17:56] <thecookie> pogay: And how would I make the installer find it? :)
[17:56] <diffra> I don't think it'll magically make your mic work, but it'll at least give us something to work with :)
[17:56] <fde> KenBW22: Dell likely just mirrors the Ubuntu repos... then adds that DVD player amongst other things... it depends if you need the addons from them really
[17:56] <YlandeFaran> I was going to upgrade my BIOS, but: "motherboard_bios_ga-ep45-ud3r_f6.exe" .exe?
[17:56] <pogay> thecookie:  you can look with mount wether it is mountet under /root/yourroutsystem
[17:56] <fde> YlandeFaran: sure, hardware companies tend to assume Windoze
[17:56] <romain__> français?
[17:56] <cwillu> !fr
[17:57] <thecookie> pogay: rootfs on /
[17:57] <pogay> thecookie: one reason could be not the driver for the filesystem used
[17:57] <bouncing> With no CPU load and nothing going on, sometimes my box will seem to stop. If I'm typing, characters will lag for a split second, pulseaudio will stutter, etc... I don't have any indexing going on in the background or anything like that. Nothing unusual on top. Ideas?
[17:57] <rockyrock> cwillu: that line is for the filesystem
[17:57] <rockyrock> cwillu: i'm not sure if i should put all these options for the rest of the partitions
[17:57] <brunner> does the server ISO contain sound card drivers for the same cards as the desktop version?
[17:57] <thecookie> pogay: It's a empty new disk
[17:57] <cwillu> rockyrock, as I said, that's what I'm using for my /media/alt partition
[17:57] <KenBW22> fde: so it wont have software optimised for the dell mini?
[17:57] <cwillu> rockyrock, "man mount" documents them all
[17:58] <mikeshollen> diffra: audacity is installed
[17:58] <pogay> thecookie:  I had the case, when i started an existing installation
[17:58] <fde> KenBW22: it will, it just won't have the Dell add-ons - only one that comes to mind, as I said, was the DVD player + codecs
[17:59] <fde> KenBW22: everything dell provides there are alternatives to though, so its up to you.
[17:59] <cwillu> AdamDH, wanna give me another pastebin now (presuming you haven't rebooted)?  (hmw)
[17:59] <KenBW22> fde: no, i mean the dell repos will be a rehash of canonical's, as in they wont have any dell-specific builds of the apps?
[18:00] <fde> KenBW22: no, Dell contributes already to upstreams, so forking everything for their machines would be a pita
[18:00] <cooldduuudde> i found a major bug in ubuntu 8.10 related to data transfer rate to a usb flash drive
[18:00] <g33k_gir1> can anyone help me fix my screen? I need to add a higher resolution than what's available in the gnome display manager, and none of the FAQs and howtos I've found so far seem to work for Intrepid. Secondly,  it seems that I can't see all the colours available to me, even though my xorg.conf is set to 24
[18:00] <KenBW22> fde: oh, well thanks
[18:01] <cwillu> cooldduuudde, -> bugs.launchpad.nt
[18:01] <pogay> thecookie: usually you have an error-message, when you come to busybox
[18:01] <mikeshollen> diffra: it doesn't seem to be picking up any audio
[18:01] <cwillu> .net rather
[18:01] <brunner> does anyone here know if the server version of ubuntu includes sound card drivers?  I need to run asterisk, but I'd like to be able to use the local sound card for testing via alsa.
[18:01] <cooldduuudde> cwillu-> thanks
[18:01] <foo> I addeded the gwibber sources, and I got this: W: GPG error:  http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures  couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:  NO_PUBKEY - any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:01] <fde> cooldduuudde: neat, check launchpad for the bug, and either add to an existing bug, or file a new one... also if you want to confirm the bug first... #ubuntu-bugs (I believe) might assist you
[18:01] <kyledr> how do i make it easy to play video to things like projectors or other monitors/tvs?
[18:01] <cwillu> brunner, yes it does I believe.  Worst case, the repositories are the same, so you could just install them
[18:02] <fde> kyledr: should be plug and play these days
[18:02] <beautifulsnow> suicidepills, hey I'm back
[18:02] <kyledr> fde: i'm not using gnome or anything fancy
[18:02] <brunner> cwillu: thanks. I was just afraid the kernel could have been compiled to disallow sound card modules
[18:02] <fde> kyledr: doesn't matter, its an xorg thing not gnome
[18:02] <kyledr> fde: so i doubt it is
[18:02] <kyledr> fde: oh ok. for my friend it didn't work and he also uses ubuntu, but i'll see
[18:02] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: hey man
[18:02] <kyledr> fde: is restarting x necessary?
[18:03] <fde> kyledr: shouldn't be, no... what version of Ubuntu did your friend try?
[18:03] <beautifulsnow> suicidepills, oops was lifestream before hehe ^^
[18:03] <[ifroog]> My third question is, How when using qt/kde apps, can i use gtk them on it by default or how do i change kde apps theme from gnome for kde/qt apps eg:- konqueror, kopete etc.. ?
[18:03] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: yeah i'm seeing ath9k and mac80211
[18:03] <suicidepills> i'm assuming it's ath9k?
[18:03] <thecookie> pogay: Yeah, No controller found.
[18:03] <kyledr> fde: probably intrepid, it's eeebuntu which is just ubuntu hacked to work better with the eee pc laptop by asus
[18:03] <fde> kyledr: I have done a lot of presentations for my local LUG using hardy and intrepid without issue via projectors
[18:04] <beautifulsnow> suicidepills, yup, when you get disconnected again, do  sudo modprobe ath9k     that;s just a workaround, but hey, better than nothing
[18:04] <Redragon> I noticed that msn messenger via pidgen does not connect. Is there a reason for that that I might not be aware of?
[18:04] <fde> kyledr: actually, its just Ubuntu will the netbook GUI afaik?
[18:04] <kyledr> fde: ok i'll check it out again. it could be a weirder issue cause we're using some goofy adapters to play to a TV
[18:04] <fde> kyledr: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log after pluging in the project if you have issues...
[18:05] <kyledr> fde: uh, i think it comes with non-free drivers standard so the wireless and other stuff works out of the box
[18:05] <kyledr> fde: ok i will,thanks
[18:05] <dkulchenko> Here's my story: I created 2 LVM PVs, put about 50GB of data on to them (this is all on a Live CD), then at some point Firefox froze, and I had to reboot. I boot back in, reinstall lvm2, it detects the volume group, but complains about not being able to find a physical volume by xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx UUID, which does not match any of the drives I have. It wasn't letting me mount anything, but was detecting the names of the LVs fine,
[18:05] <dkulchenko> so I used pvcreate to restore metadata with a forced UUID. Then, I get back my LVs, but they are reporting 0B free, and do not seem to have a filesystem on them! I don't have backup metadata, because I didn't know about it until I rebooted and lost it. What can I do to restore my data?
[18:05] <pogay> thecookie: you boot from a CD?  you can try options like failsafe
[18:05] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: that works for me.  i was actually trying to do that before but i wasn't sure how to use modprobe to restart drivers...or what my driver was
[18:05] <fde> kyledr: Ubuntu comes with non-free drivers
[18:05] <KenBW22> why should gparted take ages to scan devices?
[18:05] <beautifulsnow> suicidepills, oh so you tried it right now?
[18:05] <kyledr> fde: well not some of the ones he needed. He would have had to use ndiswrapper and add other sources for packages
[18:06] <milkncat> Hi there
[18:06] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: no, i haven't tried it yet 'cause my wireless is working currently
[18:07] <fde> dkulchenko: not a lot considering you didn't make back-ups... perhaps #ubuntu-server knows more? or check launchpad for known issues/work arounds?
[18:07] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: i just needed to know how to fix it next time :)
[18:07] <thecookie> pogay: Yeah, I do. I'll try to see if there are any booting options
[18:07] <milkncat> here is a question, i've 3 disks, first 2 is raid, and third one is i bought today and will like to install ubuntu..will there be any problem with booting or mounting my raid ?
[18:07] <beautifulsnow> mefisto__,  so I guess I'll just do pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17  since my mouse has 17 buttons?  x-D
[18:07] <dkulchenko> fde: i'll do that, thanks
[18:07] <YlandeFaran> fde: Do I have to install windows to update my bios then?
[18:07] <beautifulsnow> suicidepills, hope it breaks soon so you can try it :P
[18:07] <davix> I am trying to install the latest ubuntu from the cd, but it recognises my IDE drives as SCSI and it doesnt let me partition them, it just gets stuck. i hope it didnt kill them also. how can I get passed this issue before installing?
[18:08] <fde> dkulchenko: LVM is kinda overkill for a desktop - not at all useful unless you plan on changing drives around a lot...
[18:08] <dkulchenko> fde: so i gathered. :)
[18:08] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: lol yeah, it seems to happen really randomly so i have no idea when it'll happen again
[18:08] <paradoxgo> 1st time linux install here. Is there a fix for the touchpad delay?
[18:08] <fde> YlandeFaran: you can replace it with the Linux BIOS projects code... but I don't know of any way to install that stuff, no
[18:08] <paradoxgo> It looks like a pretty popular problem
[18:08] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: but to be honest i kind of want it to break soon so i can make sure that it works
[18:08] <mikeshollen> What should my sound capture be set to in the sound control panel for my internal mic to work?
[18:08] <dkulchenko> fde: i just do quad and tri booting, and i'm installing different distros on different partitions often
[18:08] <yorky501> guys am having a problem with shutting down my system, when I hit shutdown the system restarts vice shutting down any ideas?
[18:09] <dkulchenko> yorky501: did you assemble the computer yourself?
[18:09] <foo> I addeded the gwibber sources, and I got this: W: GPG error:   http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures   couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:   NO_PUBKEY - any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:09] <davix> I am trying to install the latest ubuntu from the cd, but it recognises my IDE drives as SCSI and it doesnt let me partition them, it just gets stuck. i hope it didnt kill them also. how can I get passed this issue before installing? (it shows as SD* instead of HD*) please halp.
[18:09] <thecookie> pogay: Safe graphics mode or use driver update cd?
[18:09] <beautifulsnow> suicidepills,  have you noticed that it likes to break when it's idle? mine did that. You could close everything to do with internet, and see if it breaks :p
[18:09] <fde> dkulchenko: LVM probably isn't really adding anything useful for you... using a regular FS would be much less error prone
[18:09] <ktebit> ?DCC SEND ff???f? 0 0 0
[18:09] <dkulchenko> fde: yes. i'm planning to recover data and returns to regular partitioning
[18:09] <yorky501> dkulchenko; no i didnt and its a laptop
[18:09] <krunk-|work> morning
[18:10] <benpicco> Hi, I got an Intel X3100 GPU in my laptop, after playing some fullscreen OpenGL games for a while, X freezes, even SysRQ or X-Zapping doesn't work, leaving the message '[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.
[18:10] <Redragon> Does anyone know why msn signin via pidgen does not work?
[18:10] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: actually, yeah that does seem to have been the case
[18:10] <benpicco> ' in the xorg.0.log.olf
[18:10] <krunk-|work> I have exim4 installed on an unbuntu server, but I notice that the system does not have the 'mail' program. e.g. "mail -s 'foo'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>< mail.txt"
[18:10] <krunk-|work> what package will provide this ability?
[18:10] <fde> Redragon: "signing" ?
[18:11] <cwillu> brunner, I use the -server kernel on my laptop on jaunty because it works around an accelerated graphics glitch.  I also used it briefly after the hardy release until some cfs patches landed, with the nvidia driver from -restricted :p
[18:11] <pogay> thecookie:  it it's a hw-recognition problem you may avoid some tests, for example with acpi, but I have no Idea what controler it misses...
[18:11] <yorky501> Redragon; it works for me
[18:11] <mefisto__> beautifulsnow: what?
[18:11] <cwillu> brunner, aka, don't worry :)
[18:11] <fde> Redragon: you mean signing in? cuz I'm on MSN via pidgin right now....
[18:11] <brunner> cwillu: thanks =] burning the ISO now.
[18:11] <Redragon> Odd, it won't sign in for me. Will continue to work with it and see what I can do.
[18:11] <mohan43u> krunk-|work: I think its mailx..
[18:11] <dkulchenko> yorky501: you're on ubuntu, right? go to System->Preferences->Power Management->General Tab and check the actions.
[18:11] <pogay> thecookie: may be the hard-disk controller, may be there is a module missing
[18:11] <krunk-|work> mohan43u: yes, that sounds right. thanks
[18:11] <thecookie> pogay: Yeah, I guessed. I tried searching google.. but I can't seem to find someone with the same problem + computer model. It's a shuttle sd37p2
[18:11] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: i've also run into a more random crashing problem that occurs when my pc is idle
[18:12] <fde> Redragon: depending on the type of people you converse with on MSN, you may want to give aMSN a shot (voice and video chat etc etc)
[18:12] <yorky501> dkulchenko; i am on ubunutu, ill take a look now.
[18:12] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: only happens like, 3 times a month, but when it locks up it's completely unresponsive
[18:12] <fde> Redragon: ugly interface, but all the annoying things MSN users insist on are supported
[18:12] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: same sorta deal though.  only happens when it's idle
[18:12] <pogay> you can try for example puppy-linux or another bootable, to see wether it's a general problem
[18:13] <cwillu> suicidepills, older ibm?
[18:13] <beautifulsnow> mefisto__,  xmodmap mouse buttons.  So If I have 17  buttons it would just be pointer = 1 2 ...... etc.... 17   right? :P can't possibly have taken me that long to figure it out xD
[18:13] <milano> hello people, i need help with a little thing, bash_completion is not working with the sudo cmd it is without it though, any idea?
[18:13] <the_dark_warrio> Where are the firefox plugins located on Ubuntu?
[18:13] <doglino> why Linux uses / and windows uses \ ?
[18:13] <suicidepills> cwillu: nah, it's an asus laptop (x59sl)
[18:13] <cwillu> okay, nvm
[18:13] <yorky501> dkulchenko; everything looks good !
[18:13] <fde> the_dark_warrio: after installation, or the packaged plugins?
[18:13] <milano> any help please?
[18:13] <Redragon> I really like the single interface. I used trillian in windows. I was happy as a clam to find pidgen.
[18:13] <cumulus007> how can I force a kernel module to unload? rmmod says: module is in use, but I want to unload it
[18:13] <cwillu> doglino, windows made the break from tradition, I'm sure there's a good exposition of it on wikipedia
[18:13] <archman> guys, how do i connect to ad-hoc network but with cli?
[18:14] <yorky501> this problem seemed to appear from nowhere too
[18:14] <KenBW22> doglino: rephrase: why does Windows use \ when everyone else uses /
[18:14] <dkulchenko> yorky501: what laptop model do you have?
[18:14] <the_dark_warrio> fde: After installation. For example, where is libjavaplugin.so located
[18:14] <thecookie> pogay: I guess it can be. I did boot up gparted before at least. So there should be a driver for it
[18:14] <yorky501> sony vaio vgn n21m
[18:14] <doglino> hahaha good
[18:14] <fde> KenBW22: it has a lot to do with their SMB history...
[18:14] <HPIAddict> ok I have a question. I tried to change the mount point for a second hard drive. Now it sees the hard drive but cant mount it. And I can no longer change the mount location
[18:14] <pogay> thecookie:  ah gparted worked...
[18:15] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me get my microphone working?
[18:15] <dkulchenko> yorky501: i've got no idea other than the power button might be hardwired to send the restart acpi signal, although that is very rare
[18:15] <beautifulsnow> suicidepills,  how far ago did you install ubuntu? do you have all the updates installed?
[18:15] <fde> the_dark_warrio: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras ... dpkg -L adobe-flashplugin
[18:15] <keystr0k> I seem to always get this wrong, so I am just going to ask... how can I:  recursively move contents of a folder into another folder overwriting any files that already exist (using terminal of course) ?
[18:15] <doglino> cwillu please send me a link to page that explains that
[18:15] <cwillu> doglino, sec
[18:15] <Nomeneiste> #elfnet
[18:15] <thecookie> pogay: I guess I have to do some sort of custon like usb installer to get stuff working?
[18:15] <looter> Isn't there a way to change the repeat rate of keys pressed?  My spacebar keeps like triple spacing even though I am not really holding it down, it just seems really sensitive
[18:15] <fde> the_dark_warrio: although your version may call it 'flashplugin-nonfree' ... they are not installed by default though, just install that meta package
[18:15] <the_dark_warrio> fde: Oh, found it
[18:15] <KenBW22> fde, doglino: "In CP/M and early MS-DOS the forward slash was used to introduce command-line options, unlike in Unix, where a space and hyphen ["-"] is used for this purpose. Unix paths were delimited with a forward slash; but when directories were introduced in MS-DOS 2 another character had to be chosen as a delimiter and the backslash was selected.[8]"
[18:15] <suicidepills> beautifulsnow: i installed 8.10 with Wubi (which could be the problem, yeah?) and i check and install updates religiously
[18:15] <yorky501> ok, cant be the problem it has been fine previously
[18:15] <milano> help please!, bash_completion is not working with sudo, it is without it though, what cuold be the problem?
[18:16] <pogay> thecookie:  you can install an ubuntu on a usb-Stick... and boot from there
[18:16] <hwilde> looter, system preference keyboard
[18:16] <yorky501> thanks anyway
[18:16] <cwillu> doglino, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backslash
[18:16] <beautifulsnow> suicidepills,  you say "when idle". Does that mean that Ubuntu hibernated or suspended?
[18:16] <doglino> cwillu hey, thanks
[18:16] <thecookie> pogay: Yeah, I meant.. I wold need the disk driver on it tho? Otherwise I would get the same problem
[18:16] <looter> thanks, i was looking more into like, like it was a config file or something.  Not used to all this graphical stuff in linux  ;0
[18:16] <doglino> KenBW22 thanks champ
[18:16] <fde> milano: what exactly do you want us to do about it? it simply doesn't work currently when using sudo  :/
[18:17] <cwillu> doglino, basically, early dos didn't have folders, and used / for parameters.  When the later versions added folders, they used \ instead of / to avoid ambiguous meanings
[18:17] <hwilde> looter, it gets written to a config file somewhere....
[18:17] <cwillu> ah yes, what he said :p
[18:17] <pogay> thecookie:  differnt drives have differnt drivers I guess,  but it's difficult to say
[18:17] <g33k_gir1> has anyone ever used xfix?
[18:17] <userneedinghelp_> hwilde? may we speak via private message?
[18:17] <looter> right, just not used to doing it graphically thanks again
[18:17] <milano> fde:  it was working sometime, now it is not, i need help o instructions
[18:17] <cwillu> doglino, http://blogs.msdn.com/larryosterman/archive/2005/06/24/432386.aspx is referenced by wikipedia, contains a bit more info
[18:17] <fde> milano: issue being that they are not sub commands of sudo... they are entirely new commands... so bash-completion gets confused... there is no work around.
[18:17] <pogay> g33k_gir1: yes yesterday, I creates a new xorg.config
[18:17] <hwilde> userneedinghelp_, what is your question please?
[18:18] <userneedinghelp_> I use ubuntu
[18:18] <Pici> milano: use a shell that supports completion properly, like zsh.
[18:18] <milano> fde: there is, you just dont know....
[18:18] <g33k_gir1> pogay: i get command not found :(
[18:18] <userneedinghelp_> and i dual vboot with Windows XP
[18:18] <hwilde> fde, my tab complete works with sudo.
[18:18] <fde> g33k_gir1: umm, everyone afaik...
[18:18] <userneedinghelp_> how can i increase the partition of ubuntu
[18:18] <thecookie> pogay: I remember an app that prepares the usb stick with a boot image.. somewhere on sourceforge.. you remember the name?
[18:18] <userneedinghelp_> even when its already installed
[18:18] <userneedinghelp_> i have 8.10
[18:18] <hwilde> userneedinghelp_, boot with the live cd, run the partition editor, resize the partition
[18:18] <pogay> g33k_gir1: o.k you can come to xfix, when starting the recovery line in grub
[18:18] <userneedinghelp_> i didnt use the live cd
[18:18] <fde> milano: sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash-completion ?
[18:18] <milano> sth with the bashrc file may be? i need somebody who knows some linux around here
[18:19] <userneedinghelp_> i used an image
[18:19] <milano> fde:  will try
[18:19] <Pici> !enter | userneedinghelp_
[18:19] <hwilde> milano, here is default .bashrc   http://pastebin.com/f3881d1fd
[18:19] <davix> *HELP* I am trying to install the latest ubuntu from the cd, but it recognises my IDE drives as SCSI and it doesnt let me partition them, it just gets stuck. i hope it didnt kill them also. how can I get passed this issue before installing? (it shows as SD* instead of HD*) please halp.
[18:19] <hwilde> userneedinghelp_, download the livecd then.
[18:20] <mikeshollen> I need some help setting up my Mic. I think the sound card is an nVidia CK804 but I can't figure out what the settings are to get it to record my voice.
[18:20] <cwillu> Daviey, sd* vs hd* is normal, for years now.  Your problems are unrelated to that snippet :p
[18:20] <hwilde> !mic > mikeshollen
[18:20] <pogay> davix:  i guess sda. today is not scsi anymore.
[18:20] <fde> davix: your self-diagnoses is wrong... it is supposed to show as SCSI, and is supposed to be sd?? now...
[18:20] <hwilde> mikeshollen, run alsamixer and make sure it's not muted (on capture)
[18:20] <mikeshollen> hwilde: it's not
[18:20] <fde> davix: based on your lack of further information, it is hard to assist you at this time.
[18:20] <cwillu> davix, (rather) sd* vs hd* is normal, for years now.  Your problems are unrelated to that snippet :p
[18:20] <hwilde> mikeshollen, sry that's as far as i know
[18:21] <davix> oh
[18:21] <cwillu> pogay, scsi still exists, but as far as sd/hd is concerned, that aspect is unified now
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> davix To get live cd to show your missing hard drive this often helps..At start or install press F6 and add all_generic_ide before the "--"
[18:21] <davix> ic fde and cwillu, thanks i'll try and install again, see if i can get some log of the error
[18:21] <davix> thanks!
[18:21] <fde> davix: kernel 2.6.16 made the switch to libata for all hard drives. only cdroms and the like are now defined as hd??
[18:21] <cumulus007> how can I force a kernel module to unload? rmmod says: module is in use, but I want to unload it
[18:21] <g33k_gir1> so, lets try this another way. i switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu a while ago and some programmes are still using the KDE versions by default. Is it possible that something else is running my X, because changing xorg.conf does absolutely nothing to my screen resolution
[18:22] <Rencx> what i must do if Cinerrela somtimes stop working?
[18:22] <bdubnc> Hey guys, I am having a serious problem.  I am trying to configure a mainpine IQ express 8 port on Ubuntu 8.04.2 server.  For some reason the server will find the card, but not configure any com ports.  I have done everything that mainpine suggested, even called there tech support.  No Help.  Anyone who has worked with this please let me know!
[18:22] <cwillu> fde, most cd's are sd* now too
[18:22] <pogay> davix:  try gparted live-CD when you like to partition
[18:22] <Neostar2119> Need a bit of help here, I'm running Ubuntu on my Acer Extensa 4630Z and having some graphics issues. Anything 3D is very slow and choppy, and some 3D games will crash X. I gather my settings are not correct for my video card and need a helping hand to get things up to speed.
[18:22] <fde> davix: look on the other tty's, they should be telling you about the error (tty5 I believe is the major one?)
[18:22] <fde> cwillu: sr? actually... but sometimes they are still hd??
[18:22] <bdubnc> I am trying to find to see if I have to have this on a 64bit server or 32bit server
[18:22] <hbekel> cumulus007: you have to unload the module that uses your module first
[18:23] <hwilde> g33k_gir1, in terminal ps -ef | grep X     is it running gdm or kdm
[18:23] <Rencx> every time i make video in some moment Cinelerra freez, i cant even close windows, what can i do?
[18:23] <fde> cwillu: there is one other one that I forget, but yeah you're correct...
[18:23] <cwillu> fde, /dev/scd on mine actually :p
[18:23] <ph8> hi all, i've just bought a violet mir:ror and the provided 'alpha' software can't find the device - i don't suppose anyone by random chance here has come across the same issue?
[18:23] <cumulus007> hbekel: but when I try to unload that module, rmmod says that another module is using it
[18:23] <fde> cwillu: yeah, that's the other one! :)
[18:23] <cumulus007> how can I force a kernel module to unload? rmmod says: module is in use, but I want to unload it
[18:23] <cumulus007> woops
[18:23] <mikeshollen> when I run alsamixer, it only shows me the master volume, but it used to show a lot more, how can I see all my devices in alsamixer?
[18:23] <cumulus007> ERROR: Module saa7134 is in use by saa7134_alsa
[18:23] <g33k_gir1> hwilde: its gdm
[18:23] <cumulus007> ERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use
[18:24] <g33k_gir1> hwilde: so its not kde thats messign things up... hmmmm, back to the drawing board
[18:24] <fde> cumulus007: lsmod | grep <module> ... anything that depends on it has to be unloaded first
[18:24] <hbekel> cumulus007: you'll have to do it recursively
[18:24] <cumulus007> fde: already did that, I thik I need to unload v4l
[18:24] <fde> cumulus007: then do it?
[18:24] <cumulus007> fde: v4l2 is also in use
[18:24] <cumulus007> hbekel: how?
[18:24] <fde> cumulus007: v4l would be a dep of that module though (tv card right? )
[18:25] <Rencx> what i must do if Cinerrela somtimes stop working?
[18:25] <Rencx> every time i make video in some moment Cinelerra freez, i cant even close windows, what can i do?
[18:25] <hbekel> cumulus007: you've been told
[18:25] <hwilde> !fixres > g33k_gir1
[18:25] <fde> Rencx: Cinelerra isn't part of Ubuntu, so you're asking in the wrong place really
[18:25] <cumulus007> fde: it's a tv card, yes
[18:26] <Rencx> fde is there some video editing program what is made by ubuntu
[18:26] <cumulus007> no
[18:26] <bkw> When I try to boot ubuntu installation my external dvi screen shows a very strange color matrix when X starts, it's a nvidia card and maybe the support is missing by default when booting installation. Are there any option to boot the installation e.g. using another driver or in text mode?
[18:26] <cumulus007> bkw: try ctrl+alt+backspace when that happens
[18:26] <fde> Rencx: no, but pitivi and kino are both supported by Ubuntu (aka, they're in main)
[18:26] <Rencx> fde is there chanel cinelerra
[18:26] <fde> Rencx: out of those, I would recommend pitivi
[18:26] <fde> Rencx: no idea
[18:27] <Neostar2119> I'm running Ubuntu on my Acer Extensa 4630Z and having some graphics issues. Anything 3D is very slow and choppy, and some 3D games will crash X. I gather my settings are not correct for my video card and need a helping hand to get things up to speed.
[18:27] <Rencx> fde pitivi have lot of bugs?
[18:27] <paradoxgo> Touchpad delay when clicking =\ help?
[18:27] <fde> Rencx: not really... it isn't as powerful as cinelerra though
[18:28] <Rencx> fde can i edit sound apart form video
[18:28] <tsuna27> i tried installing ubuntu but it failed not I have Grub loading error 22 help please
[18:28] <cumulus007> hbekel: I don't understand this, lsmod says saa7134_alsa is not in use by another module, but I can't unload it because modprobe says it's in use
[18:28] <fde> bkw: on the first screen of the installer... you should see options along the bottom of the screen... there is a "safe video" option iir that is probably what you want... the installer does have nvidia support though
[18:28] <danbhfive_jaunty> tsuna27: did you install to your main harddrive?
[18:28] <cooldduuudde> i have realtek audio card but the sound bursts at high volumes
[18:28] <compguy1011> i have a hp mini netbook and installed ubuntu remix, it was fine for a week or so then now is so slow i have to keep restarting it, and sometimes it will boot correctly and others not. and waking from sleep it just sits with a blank screen, any ideas
[18:29] <fde> Rencx: not that I know of
[18:29] <compguy1011> or maybe a different ver/distro for the atom processor?
[18:29] <pogay> is it possible, to assigne the monitor frequenzy via boot option?
[18:29] <tsuna27> danbhfive_jaunty: no I made a partion
[18:29] <Raylz> when i install dosfstools on hardy i cant use dosfslabel
[18:29] <fde> compguy1011: does regular Ubuntu work? maybe the creator of Ubuntu Remix is dumb?
[18:30] <tsuna27> danbhfive_jaunty: no I made a partition**
[18:30] <limpc> hey.
[18:30] <limpc> anyone got filesystem tweaks?
[18:30] <limpc> trying to ls a dir with 1million+ inodes.. very slow
[18:30] <compguy1011> fde, haha maybe... no i havent but i thought with the reg install it would be too much for just a gig of ram and the atom processor no?
[18:30] <fde> !listkeys hdparm
[18:30]  * fde wishes he could remember how to search ubottu
[18:31] <danbhfive_jaunty> tsuna27: buts that partition is still on your main drive, right?
[18:31] <snak3> hi
[18:31] <tsuna27> danbhfive_jaunty: yes
[18:32] <fde> compguy1011: it would be fine... its not like Ubuntu Remix is a light weight alternative
[18:32] <jimcooncat> limpc: sure, move it to reiserfs. Of course, you'll never recover the time it takes to do the copy.
[18:32] <mikeshollen> whenever I run alsamixer, it only shows me the master volume.  How do I run it so I can see all my devices again?
[18:32] <snak3> maybe someone can help me. i want to install ubuntu 8.10 (x64) on a machine with 8gb of ram. how big should the swap partion be? (really 2*8gb as mentioned in the swapfaq?)
[18:32] <compguy1011> fde, ok, can i apt-get install it or neg?
[18:33] <extor> i have a problem with my keyboard where the shift key does not engage and neither does caps lock. however when i ssh to another box then shift starts working again..is there  a way to reset my terminal to normal values
[18:33] <fde> compguy1011: ahh, you're talking about the Ubuntu Netbook Remix? That would be lighter... but I don't know of any issues... there is a channel for netbook versions
[18:33] <fde> I think its just #ubuntu-netbook ?
[18:34] <compguy1011> nope
[18:35] <limpc> jimcooncat: hmm isnt that the binary-tree dir traversing algo?
[18:35] <tsuna27> does any1 here have ubuntu running on a sony vaio laptop?
[18:35] <limpc> well node traversing not dir
[18:35] <n8tuserf> tsuna27-> i have made it run, what is your issue?
[18:35] <teddy_> does apt-get update...apt-get upgrade...update and upgrade all my packages to the latest version(s)?
[18:36] <compguy1011> teddy_, yes it does
[18:36] <fde> compguy1011: seems its actually #ubuntu-mobile ...
[18:36] <n8tuserf> extor-> try tput sgr0  or tput reset
[18:36] <krunk-|work> hm, I can't find the feisty backports at http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ and I'm getting a 404 not found on the old backports repo
[18:36] <fde> !vaio
[18:36] <tsuna27> n8tuserf: I can not get ubuntu to run I tried wubi, then 8.10 cd and alt 8.04 and nothing works all I get is a black screen
[18:36] <fde> tsuna27: check the wiki, I think there is a page pertaining to vaio related issues.
[18:37] <Dillizar> !mobile
[18:37] <jimcooncat> limpc: if I understand you correctly, then no. IIRC it will spit out the filenames fast because it reads them from a single index.
[18:37] <n8tuserf> tsuna27-> if i recall i may have type  vga=791  on the grub ..try that
[18:37] <lantjie_> hey
[18:37] <lantjie_> guys
[18:37] <lantjie_> i have question
[18:37] <davix> fde and cwillu it appears to be runing ok now that i let it partition automaticly rather then doing the partitioning myself, i think i might did somethign to cause it to act bad
[18:38] <_sektor> tsuna27: maybe acpi problem
[18:38] <fde> lantjie_: if you ask it, we might have answers
[18:38] <tsuna27> n8tuserf: vga=791 on the grub?
[18:38] <lantjie_> how do i play wma with a command
[18:38] <CAP1780> hola alguin habla spain aqui?
[18:38] <CAP1780> :S
[18:38] <lantjie_> ?
[18:38] <tsuna27> sektor: whats acpi
[18:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > CAP1780
[18:38] <lifestream> Can anyone tell me if this    xev    thing says what keycode is being used? I need to add vol up/down to xmodmap
[18:38] <_sektor> tsuna27: handle battery and so on
[18:38] <dkulchenko> !acpi > tsuna27
[18:38] <fde> lantjie_: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras ... then you can install mplayer for instance, and just 'mplayer whatever.wma'
[18:38] <n8tuserf> tsuna27-> yes, press esc at boot and when you see the kernel line, before the end --  insert vga=791
[18:38] <lantjie_> acpi has something to do with your screen
[18:38] <mutantspew> hello, I've got a problem with the network manager and maybe some one can help me out with it... its saving the "system setting" and "Auto connect" but it wont save my password for wireless internet and it wont start up on log on...
[18:38] <dkulchenko> !apm > tsuna27
[18:39] <MaxDread> is anyone else using www.ubuntuforums.org getting "Fatal error:  Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /srv/www.ubuntuforums.org/public_html/includes/functions.php on line 1822" after they post a message? Please send a PM if you are. Thanks!
[18:39] <dkulchenko> lantjie_: no it does not
[18:39] <serhildan> hî
[18:39] <serhildan> :)
[18:39] <n8tuserf> tsuna27-> and yeah that too,  noacpi  on same line
[18:39] <serhildan> Selam
[18:39] <fde> lantjie_: don't guess... acpi is power management
[18:39] <_sektor> tsuna27: try to install without acpi, at moment when cd boots push F6 and then choos acpi=off
[18:39] <serhildan> bu ne bîçîm sohbet
[18:39] <lifestream> mutantspew, yeah it does that. that's just how it is :P We call it a "feature" :P That way random people won't be able to use your computer to connect to your internet! hahaha!
[18:39] <serhildan> anlayan varmî
[18:39] <serhildan> :=
[18:39] <serhildan> )
[18:40] <lantjie_> hey thanx man
[18:40] <lantjie_> its working
[18:40] <limpc> jimcooncat: i just checked, yeah it uses binary tree algorithms
[18:40] <g33k_gir1> hwilde: I could kiss you! thank you!
[18:40] <limpc> its only faster if you do searches
[18:40] <serhildan> Tûrkçe Kûrtçe Bîlen var mî ??
[18:40] <serhildan> :)
[18:40] <ttuttle> Hey.  I'm trying to install emacspeak, which I believe is in universe, but Add/Remove Applications lists no packages if I select "Third-party applications".
[18:40] <krunk-|work> oh, I see feisty is deprecated...
[18:40] <fde> g33k_gir1: no hanky panky in the channel...
[18:40] <tsuna27> n8tuserf: vga=791 on the grub I can not seem to do that
[18:40] <limpc> and only for small files < 4096 :(
[18:40] <krunk-|work> well, crap
[18:41] <Gnea> fde: a kiss on the cheek ain't hanky-panky ;)
[18:41] <n8tuserf> tsuna27-> same line as those suggested to you regarding  noacpi
[18:41] <lantjie_> oke acpi have something to with power managment
[18:41] <g33k_gir1> fde: sorry, overcome with joy at my screen finally looking good ;D
[18:41] <lifestream> mutantspew, now seriously: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/36651   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257980
[18:41] <jimcooncat> limpc: if you're actually considering it, then check out whether or not the "notail" option is right for your needs
[18:41] <hwilde> !nvidia | g33k_gir1
[18:42] <tsuna27> n8tuserf: is it & vga=791 at the end of that long list
[18:42] <n8tuserf> tsuna27-> before  the end  --    note the two dashes
[18:42] <MBC> Sorry I need a link to pastey
[18:42] <MBC> Sorry I need a link to pastey
[18:42] <MBC> Sorry I need a link to pastey
[18:42] <fde> tsuna27: no, you just type that at the end of the list... the space separates
[18:42] <FloodBot1> MBC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <n8tuserf> fde they have dashes usually at the end..
[18:42] <fde> n8tuserf: never seen that
[18:43] <g33k_gir1> so, now, for the second screen problem: i can't see all colours on my screen. specifically, I can't see the palest grey. as a web-mistress, this is quite distressing. I thought it was the monitor, but its not, so it must be an ubuntu thing I haven't set right
[18:43]  * fde has had to write menu.lst files from scratch too
[18:44] <Andelkrag> Estudiando.
[18:44] <Andelkrag> Rayos. xD
[18:44] <fde> g33k_gir1: see the nvidia link given... could be vesa just isn't doing 24bit color (which is actually what other OS's call 32bit color, cuz 8 bits is just info)
[18:45] <lifestream> Does this xev output (just a few lines) say what xmodmap keycode is doing the action?
[18:45] <lifestream> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119764/plain/
[18:45] <lantjie_> hey guys acpi is advandce configuration power interface its for thingslike hadrives. it is intendesd for laptops/notebooks, becuase pwer saving is vital at these
[18:46] <Slart> lantjie_: was that a question?
[18:46] <SlashLife> Mhh ... to be able to send mails through sendmail ... which package should be installed? postfix?
[18:47] <fde> lantjie_: I think he's trying to correct me... except I'm pretty sure the p actually stands for Powermanagement
[18:47] <dkulchenko> could I get an LVM/disk recovery guru join me on #lvm-recovery?
[18:47] <SlashLife> (Only sending them, this machine does not need to recieve mails.)
[18:47] <fde> Of course it does do things like spinning down hard drives when they're not in use etc... because that is something that drains power and isn't necessary
[18:48] <krunk-|work> I need to upgrade my server, I'm following this tutorial
[18:48] <krunk-|work> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[18:48] <fde> krunk-|work: #ubuntu-server
[18:48] <krunk-|work> update--manager-core is installed, but this file does not exist: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[18:48] <Slart> acpi = Advanced Configuration and Power Interface according to the internets
[18:48] <krunk-|work> fde: thanks
[18:48] <fde> krunk-|work: np... this is mostly for desktop stuff
[18:49] <tsuna27> still nothing I am trying to install but I get to this dark page and I am stuck
[18:49] <lifestream> Why doesn't xmodmap not show Volume Up, Down, Audio Next/Previous, even though those keys DO work?
[18:49] <terminal0> #gcompris
[18:49] <Slart> SlashLife: I'm a bit out of my comfort zone with this but I since noone else seems to answer I'll give it a try.. I think sendmail is enough if you just need to send mail..
[18:49] <pogay> how can I find out the monitor data?   I like a special monitor section for my acer monitor, with a particular frequenzy
[18:50] <fde> Slart: uhh... postfix *
[18:50] <SlashLife> Ok, I'll start off with sendmail-bin, then. :)
[18:50] <Fjordside> Hi, Im on 9.04 / how do I disable IPv6?
[18:50] <Slart> fde: huh?
[18:50] <bn43> hi does anyone use smstools here?  I'd like to know what rights need to be assigned to the script for the eventhandler
[18:50] <snak3> someone here with an active raid1 system (via the intel ICH10R onboard raid controller) ?
[18:50] <terminal0> hello , someone is having problems with nvidia card after update the system??
[18:50] <fde> Slart: no one really uses sendmail anymore due to the insane amounts of security holes etc... postfix and others do use /usr/bin/sendmail for compat reasons though
[18:51] <oCean_> Fjordside: join #ubuntu+1 for jaunty
[18:51] <serhildan> suna
[18:51] <serhildan> kîmse varmî ?
[18:51] <terminal0> I am using intrepid
[18:51] <Slart> fde: oh..  :D
[18:52] <serhildan> a.q
[18:52] <SlashLife> fde: So postfix would be the preferred choice?
[18:52] <odder> two things 1) how to make nautilus display text only in window title? 2) how to make nautilus display icons only on desktop?
[18:52] <fde> SlashLife: you want to use postfix over sendmail... there are others too... apt-cache search mail-transport-agent for a list
[18:53] <SlashLife> Ok, but that means that I need to install postfix first. :)
[18:53] <bn43> hi does anyone use smstools here?  I'd like to know what rights need to be assigned to the script for the eventhandler
[18:54] <MrNatas> Can someone please help. I am new to linux and trying to upgrade Lmms
[18:54] <fde> SlashLife: yup... sendmail is one of the most exploited daemons around though, so avoid it
[18:54] <MrNatas> There is a version 0.4.2
[18:54] <MrNatas> but
[18:54] <MrNatas> apt-get upgrade
[18:54] <SlashLife> Should I uninstall sendmail again first? Oo
[18:55] <MrNatas> says 0.3 is the newest
[18:55] <fde> SlashLife: well, installing postfix should conflict sendmail... so it'll do that for you
[18:55] <lifestream> !enter | MrNatas
[18:55] <MrNatas> ok sorry
[18:55] <fde> SlashLife: doesn't make sense to have 10 mta's all trying to send all your mail  :P
[18:56] <SlashLife> Mails are something I never really figured out. :)
[18:56] <PokerFacePenguin> Why would my / filesystem keep growing when my /HOME is seperated?  Both DF and the Panel app for GNOME show 13G out of 15G used up on / partition.   My /var/log isn't but a few mb, there are not that many programs installed.  Most of the junk on this machine is located in /HOME.   /tmp on this machine doesn't show using much space.  No stuff in trash.  What gives?
[18:56] <MrNatas> so can anybody help with lmms?
[18:56] <bn43> MrNatas: hi the repositories(where u get ur updates from) don't necessarily have the latest, cutting edge version of software
[18:56] <SlashLife> They are so simple, yet the system became so complex ...
[18:56] <MrNatas> oh ok, so how do i update that?
[18:57] <fde> SlashLife: if you intend to use the mta just for personal mail... I'd recommend something like ssmtp ... easy set up, and uses your isp or something like gmail to actually send the mail... it just throws the mail at those sites...
[18:57] <oCean_> PokerFacePenguin: check /var/cache ?
[18:57] <Slart> PokerFacePenguin:  try playing around with "du" or the gui tool.. disk usage analyzer and see what is using the space
[18:57] <bn43> MrNatas: if you really need it, then u have to either get the deb packages of the software, or compile it yourself
[18:57] <fde> SlashLife: You can't send mail if you don't have your own registered domain... no ISP and the like will allow it to go through due to spammers ruining it for everyone else
[18:58] <PokerFacePenguin> oCean_: yes, /var isn't holding much at all
[18:58] <Emma-opej19>  #opej19
[18:58] <MrNatas> ye I tried, but I need Qt4 or something to compile it, but cant install that..
[18:58] <SlashLife> As I said: I don't need to recieve mail on this machine ... this is an intranet server running a CRM which allows to send newsletters ... The senders mail address belongs to the organization domain, which does not point to this machine, though.
[18:58] <opej19> opej
[18:58] <oCean_> PokerFacePenguin: ah. And maybe /opt? Once I found several vm's in /opt each a couple of GB. Sorry.. just guessing
[18:58] <SlashLife> Yeah, that's a bit of a problem. :/
[18:59] <terminal0> Someone can help me with my nvidia card??
[18:59] <lifestream> Why doesn't xmodmap not show Volume Up, Down, Audio Next/Previous, even though those keys DO work?
[18:59] <SlashLife> 'cause it is a dialup domain ... static IP, though
[18:59] <opej19> #opej19
[18:59] <bn43> MrNatas: what version ubuntu r u running?
[18:59] <MrNatas> um,.. hardy
[19:00] <fde> SlashLife: yeah, it should work fine within a LAN...
[19:00] <dkulchenko> !testdisk
[19:00] <PokerFacePenguin> oCean_: i will look, but this machine is a basic one that is mainly used for internet and digital camera stuff.  It should not be using 13G for /.  My intrepid install (fresh) only is using 3.7G
[19:00] <SlashLife> Nah, the newsletter is supposed to go out to the "customers".
[19:00] <Slart> !info testdisk
[19:01] <tsuna27> i tried installing ubuntu but it failed not I have Grub loading error 22 help please
[19:01] <mjfcolas> bonjour tout le monde
[19:01] <bn43> MrNatas: on the lmms website, they have binaries for ibex(8.10)
[19:01] <odder> !fr | mjfcolas
[19:01] <Slart> bonjour mjfcolas, this channel is english only
[19:01] <SlashLife> I'll just try to get it to work and if I fsck up, they just have to get their administrator to stop eating pizza all day.
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: how did you try and install?
[19:01] <SlashLife> <- poor little dev
[19:01] <fde> SlashLife: lol... well, #ubuntu-server will likely be able to help more than this channel though
[19:02] <tsuna27> INdygunfreak: I tried to install ubuntu it failed, I installed grub now nothing works
[19:02] <oCean_> PokerFacePenguin: yeah, that's annoying. It might be a ill-placed logfile (e.g. not in /var/log) but still.. 13G is *way* to much
[19:02] <mjfcolas> odder sorry, i thought i was on -fr
[19:02] <MrNatas> bn43: ye but im so new to this, and every time I download a file or try to install i need to get more files first
[19:02] <SlashLife> They installed Ubuntu 7.10 ... not Ubuntu Server. :/
[19:02] <SlashLife> But that's still better than the rest of the machines ... which run SuSE 9.1
[19:02] <MrNatas> bn43: but thanks, ill check..
[19:02] <fde> SlashLife: you should get them to upgrade to one of the LTS releases... I don't even think 7.10 is still supported, or if it is, it won't be for much longer
[19:02] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: how did you try to reinstall grub
[19:02] <bn43> MrNatas: heh yeah - dependancies dependancies!
[19:03] <fde> SlashLife: well, its really not better considering support life cycles
[19:03] <tsuna27> INdygunfreak: I never tried to reinstall grub
[19:03] <MrNatas> bn43: ye thats what I mean, lol but anyways, cheerz, thanks..
[19:03] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: are you on the live cd now?
[19:03] <SlashLife> I am not going to do that to a remote machine ... I know my way around Linux a bit, as it is similar to FreeBSD (which I use for my own network structure) ... but I'm not going to take the responsibility for crashing a remote customer server. :)
[19:04] <SlashLife> Especially one in another country.
[19:04] <fde> SlashLife: should inform the admin that he's a moron, and should start testing 8.04 for upgrading.
[19:04] <bn43> cool - keep plugging away - u'll grow to love linux
[19:04] <lifestream> People, why don't my Latitude D820 fans work? My laptop is breaking a sweat, and I don't hear those fans. How do I make them work? :P
[19:04] <mikeshollen> Can anyone help me figure out why my Mic isn't recording?
[19:04] <tsuna27> INdygunfreak: no I took Out the live CD
[19:04] <SlashLife> Yes. Yes, he is.
[19:04] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: so how are you here now?
[19:04] <lifestream> mikeshollen,  on Sound Recorder? Or in other applications?
[19:04] <tsuna27> INdygunfreak: I am on another laptop
[19:04] <Jampiter> Hi
[19:05] <nemo> hey folks. I'm updating a Hardy machine to Ibex - I just got a notification that this was a first time running lilo - that's quite correct. the machine was using grub.  I'm a little worried.  This machine is 3000km away.
[19:05] <fde> SlashLife: tell him that 7.10 support will only continue for max of like 2 months... and that 8.04 is supported for 4 years more
[19:05] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: boot the live CD on the pc that doesn't work,
[19:05] <MaT-dg> can I run kdenlive (KDE video editor) on gnome?
[19:05] <Jampiter> How do I make the option to rotate the screen 90 degrees appear in the screen resolution menu?
[19:05] <mikeshollen> lifestream: it doesn't seem to be working period. I really wanna get it working in ventrilo, but the first step is just to get it working in the linux environment
[19:05] <fbccccv> !hello
[19:05] <mikeshollen> lifestream: i'll try whatever you want
[19:05] <SlashLife> fde: Err ... all these boxes are running PHP 4 ...
[19:05] <fde> MaT-dg: sure
[19:05] <nemo> Is there any reason Ibex might use lilo instead of grub? I suppose if I check in synaptic before rebooting I should only see one of the two boot loaders installed, right?
[19:05] <Jampiter> All that's in the drop down menu at the moment is "normal"
[19:05] <SlashLife> Which support was discontinued with a last security release last August.
[19:05] <Jampiter> Should I add something to xorg?
[19:06] <tsuna27> Indygunfreak: then what
[19:06] <fde> SlashLife: should take that into account while testing the LTS (Ubuntu 8.04) ... unless he wants to risk being hacked though, he should not stay with 7.10
[19:06] <MaT-dg> fde: I installed and it closes immediately after GUI is opened
[19:07] <fde> MaT-dg: run it on the CLI and tell us the output
[19:07] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: first, try steps 1-6 here, see if that installs grub properlly...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[19:07] <Jampiter> Anyone?
[19:07] <fde> !anyone
[19:07] <MaT-dg> fde: hmm on cli it stays open..
[19:07] <SlashLife> That's the bad thing: Those are all network internal boxes, so they don't consider service security an issue.
[19:07] <fde> !patience | Jampiter
[19:07] <Jampiter> ...
[19:07]  * SlashLife needs to find a new job.
[19:07] <Dillizar> !LCARS
[19:08] <SlashLife> BEFORE this whole thing blows up.
[19:08] <Jampiter> !screenrotation#
[19:08] <Jampiter> !screenrotation
[19:08] <fde> MaT-dg: strange... well, if you throw a & after the command, it will detach from the terminal so you can close it
[19:08] <Jampiter> !screenresolution
[19:08] <tsuna27> Indygunfreak: I can even get into ubuntu
[19:08] <tsuna27> Indygunfreak: I cant even get into ubuntu**
[19:08] <lifestream> mikeshollen,  Ok 1: what kind of mic do you have? 2: What Ubuntu do you have (version) and how long ago did you install it? 3: Are you using Pulseaudio? (If you don't know, you most likely are)
[19:08] <fde> Jampiter: System > Preferences > Screen Resolution ...
[19:08] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: thats why i said do it from the live cd
[19:09] <ttuttle> Hey, I'm trying to set up emacspeak with voxin (Oralux's package with the ViaVoice TTS engine) on intrepid.
[19:09] <Redragon> okay, I am obviously lame. I am beaten by pidgin. I can get all accounts to work except msn.
[19:09] <MaT-dg> fde: okay thx :)
[19:09] <Jampiter> fde: I know, but the option I want is not there
[19:09] <tsuna27> Indygunfreak: Iive CD does not work on this laptop
[19:09] <ttuttle> When I run emacspeak, it says "Process speaker not running."
[19:09] <fde> Jampiter: what option do you want?
[19:09] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: then how did you install?
[19:09] <fde> Redragon: you try aMSN yet like I told you?
[19:09] <Redragon> I cannot get it to connect to the server?
[19:09] <mikeshollen> lifestream: i have an internal mic which I think is an nvidia ck804, ubuntu hardy installed about a week ago, and I am using Pulseaudio
[19:09] <fde> Redragon: probably its an old version of Ubuntu without msn protocol 15 support
[19:09] <Redragon> amsn?
[19:10] <Redragon> no. I haven't.
[19:10] <Jampiter> fde: I want to be able to rotate the screen 90 degrees. However, only "Normal" is showing in the screen rotation drop down menu. How can I fix this?
[19:10] <tea_ovedose> hi, is there any applications to recover deleted files in ubuntu ?
[19:10] <ravenx> greets
[19:10] <tsuna27> Indygunfreak: I tried to install ubuntu but it failed, not I reboot my comp and nothing shows up expet the grub error 22
[19:10] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: ok, i thought you said you got ubuntu installed.
[19:11] <MaT-dg> fde: apparently the & doesn't detach it from terminal -> close terminal, kdenlive closes
[19:11] <ravenx> can anybody see what i am typing?
[19:11] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: grub is typically the last thing to install..  so if you're getting a grub error,t hat would indicate it made it that far.
[19:11] <speckz> Hi! I hope someone can help me. I'm not sure what this is called so I could not search for it. I need to configure an Ubuntu server to accept and send email from local LAN (different subnets) without having to provide login. Is it possible to configure this based on IPs and/or IP ranges?
[19:11] <fde> ravenx: no, sorry
[19:11] <ravenx> funny lol
[19:11] <ttuttle> ravenx: yes
[19:11] <Jampiter> fde: Do you know how?
[19:11] <Redragon> <digs his heels in> If others can access msn chat with pidgin so should I.
[19:11] <ravenx> cool just making sure this irc works
[19:12] <Redragon> grrrrrr
[19:12] <SlashLife> fde: Who is ravenx? I never saw him typing.
[19:12] <tsuna27> Indygunfreak: it installed but when ever I tried to get into ubuntu it died, I got a black screen
[19:12] <fde> Jampiter: no, sorry... never had to do that, so not familiar with it
[19:12] <Jampiter> fde: Oh, ok. Thanks anyway
[19:12] <Jampiter> Does anyone else have any ideas?
[19:12] <IndyGunFreak> tsuna27: you'er gonna have to ask someone else for help, you';re talking all oer yourself, fist you didn't get it installed, then you got it installed, thne the live cd doesn't work, but thats what you installed from.. if you can't get a straight answer to a question, you cannot expect help'
[19:13] <marcelkoopman> hi
[19:13] <g33k_gir1> !ati
[19:13] <fde> speckz: that isn't possible, the system will need to know about the user... you want #ubuntu-server though
[19:13] <tea_ovedose> hi, is there any applications to recover deleted files ?
[19:13] <Thomas82> Guys, please help me ;( I'm going to travel 12h by train, without working internet it will be nightmare :/ Anyone got idea why I get those errors in syslog? http://pastebin.com/m5adf6fa9 Thanks in advice!
[19:13] <carpii__> is there a site which announces changes to the ubuntu repo's ?
[19:13] <profanephobia> for some reason apt wants me to autoremove all the dependencies needed by vuze 4 how can i tell apt not to want to remove those apps?
[19:14] <carpii__> i want to start knowing why apt-get is upgrading certain s/w
[19:14] <fde> tea_ovedose: there is depending on fs used... e2fsprogs has something, I just can't remember the command
[19:14] <Jampiter> Is it on the Ubuntu Wiki?
[19:14] <Jampiter> !rotation
[19:14] <tsuna27> Indygunfreak: okay look I put in the live CD TRIED to install ubuntu but then at the end it did not work, I get up to a black screen I downloaded the grub manager and then bam when I try to start my laptop it goes to the grub error
[19:14] <Shrini> tea_ovedose: hi, what filesystem you use?
[19:14] <fde> tea_ovedose: It won't be very useful though if you've waited too long... once the journal has updated, the file is gone forever
[19:15] <Shrini> tea_ovedose: not possible in ext3
[19:15] <tea_ovedose> Shrini: ntfs
[19:15] <fde> !xrandr
[19:15] <Shrini> tea_ovedose: not possible in resisefs too
[19:15] <fde> Jampiter: ^
[19:15] <Thomas82> really nobody can help? :(
[19:15] <milkncat> someone help me please :)
[19:15] <tea_ovedose> fde: just two hrs ago so it shouldn't be too long
[19:15] <marcelkoopman> Thomas82, you are using a usb network device?
[19:16] <OsamaK> Hello. Can someone check this <http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6751052>, it would be very helpful if I could solve it tonight.
[19:16] <SuperGuy_9000> (I'm a Ubuntu noob) I'm using Compiz check, it says it has too skip my nv driver because it's in use. I say yes too more information. It says it can't handle Compiz, I need to install the correct drivers for it. When I say yes to search for drivers, I get no results and an error about a theme engine not being installed. What can I do?
[19:16] <speckz> thanks fde!
[19:16] <Myrtti> Thomas82: have you asked at forums already?
[19:16] <Thomas82> marcelkoopman: thanks for interest, I've got built-in hdspa modem in dell laptop
[19:16] <fde> tea_ovedose: I think it might be actually
[19:16] <marcelkoopman> Thomas82, did it work before?
[19:16] <milkncat> I've 2 discs raid 0. and bought one more today.non-raid. i installed ubuntu 8.10 on it. but i can't boot it. GRUB gives me an error. Anyone knows how to deal with it ?
[19:16] <Jampiter> fde: That's multiple monitors, which is completely seperate from what I want to do
[19:16] <MaT-dg> fde: I've got some output from the crach -> KCrash: Application 'kdenlive' crashing... KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[19:17] <Thomas82> Myrtti: Yesterday, everything was ok, I didn't change nothing, today its not working and to be honest I don't have time to post in on forum, I've got a train within 1h :/
[19:17] <tea_ovedose> fde: @@ so there's nothing can save it
[19:17] <fde> Jampiter: stands for X Rotation and Resolution ... so that will be about your only resource... maybe try asking in #xorg too though?
[19:17] <marcelkoopman> Thomas82, did you upgrade something?
[19:17] <kosen> hi there, is there an AbiWord guru here? :)
[19:17] <Jampiter> fde: Ah, I see.. I'll try that channel too
[19:17] <fde> tea_ovedose: probably not, no... did you install e2fsprogs? dpkg -l e2fsprogs | grep undelete and try?
[19:18] <Thomas82> marcelkoopman: nothing, there wasn't new updates since yesterday
[19:18] <tea_ovedose> Shrini: doh... not even ntfs ...
[19:18] <vigo> Where is the clipboard?
[19:18] <marcelkoopman> Thomas82, is there a newer kernel version than you are using now? maybe boot into that one?
[19:19] <qbrix> I'm looking for a spanish version of Ubuntu, do I just download the standard ISO from ubuntu.com ?
[19:19] <fde> vigo: you can try something like glipper for advanced clipboard functionality... otherwise there is a crude implementation within the xserver itself
[19:19] <milkncat> I've 2 discs raid 0. and bought one more today.non-raid. i installed ubuntu 8.10 on it. but i can't boot it. GRUB gives me an error. Anyone knows how to deal with it ?
[19:19] <Dillizar> does splash screens from KDE work on GNOME
[19:19] <fde> vigo: I don't know where things are stored within it though
[19:19] <Thomas82> marcelkoopman: before I had those errors in syslog http://pastebin.com/m1fab7751 for me it looks as something with permission
[19:19] <Bugs_BunnyBR> someone can help me with my nvidia card?
[19:19] <fde> Dillizar: no
[19:19] <Dillizar> damn
[19:19] <vigo> fde: Thank you
[19:19] <fde> !nvidia > Bugs_BunnyBR
[19:20] <qbrix> I'm looking for a spanish version of Ubuntu, do I just download the standard ISO from ubuntu.com ?
[19:20] <fde> qbrix: yes
[19:20] <tea_ovedose> fde: nope haven't installed it but when I search the name you refered doesn't seem like it's a recovery application
[19:20] <marcelkoopman> Thomas82, i dont know how to solve it, maybe upgrade and boot into a newer kernel
[19:20] <qbrix> fde: thx
[19:20] <fde> !es > qbrix
[19:20] <qbrix> ok
[19:20] <Thomas82> ok, I'll try it, Thanks for interest marcelkoopman :)
[19:21] <Dillizar> fde, are you sure what is the works that can happen :D if install the splash screen
[19:21] <Thomas82> cU
[19:21] <Bugs_BunnyBR> fde..I already install my nvidia card thousands of times..but this time happened something different..so if you may help I will by glad
[19:21] <guntbert> qbrix: yes, you download the standard version and choose the language during install
[19:21] <fde> tea_ovedose: e2fsprogs provide several ext tools... one of which is an undelete tool... but ok
[19:21] <marcelkoopman> Thomas82, hope you can fix it, these things always happen when you dont have time
[19:21] <qbrix> guntbert: great, thx for the info
[19:21] <tea_ovedose> fde:ext tools ? doesnt it support both types of ext ?
[19:22] <fde> Dillizar: they are simply entirely different implementations... you can just grab the images I guess and replace one from another theme... but without some hackery it wouldn't work
[19:22] <felicia> hello, sorry to bother everyone, but i have some hardware issues using intrepid.  im trying get my backlight brightness controls working on a vaio laptop.
[19:22] <fde> tea_ovedose: all 4 versions of ext... yes
[19:22] <tea_ovedose> fde: ty I will install it now and see if there's any luck
[19:23] <fde> tea_ovedose: as I said, once installed, type 'dpkg -L e2fsprogs | grep undelete' ... I forget the exact binary name
[19:23] <marcelkoopman> felicia, when adjusting the controls, what do you see when typing 'dmesg' in the console?
[19:23] <fde> felicia: what kind of video card?
[19:23] <marcelkoopman> felicia, does it show anything
[19:24] <felicia> i've got it working on command line using nvclock.  i just cant bind them to the keys
[19:24] <helper> hi sir , i plumb my interface eth1 into  2 ip's and it work properly but when i reboot the ip of eth1:1 and eth1:2 remove i want to reconfig them again
[19:25] <andresj> hello, i had apt-cacher setup but now that I uninstalled it, apt can't retrieve any files, since it can
[19:25] <helper> how i can make them forever i don't want to config it everytime
[19:25] <andresj> oops
[19:25] <suicidepills> lifestream: hey man
[19:25] <felicia> marcelkoopman, i've got it working on command line, just cant bind them to the keys
[19:25] <andresj> hello, i had apt-cacher setup but now that I uninstalled it, apt can't retrieve any files, since it can't connect to apt-cacher. how do i configure apt to stop using apt-cacher?
[19:25] <Dillizar> How can i make a splash screen?
[19:26] <marcelkoopman> felicia, did you install hotkey-setup?
[19:26] <lifestream> suicidepills, heya whats up?
[19:26] <marcelkoopman> felicia, hotkey-setup - auto-configures laptop hotkeys
[19:26] <fde> andresj: System > Administration > Software Sources... change the Server option at the bottom of the first tab
[19:26] <francescogvfbtg> ciao a tutti
[19:26] <fde> !it
[19:26] <felicia> marcelkoopman, it is installed
[19:26] <helper> how i can make them forever i don't want to config it everytime
[19:27] <helper> hi sir , i plumb my interface eth1 into  2 ip's and it work properly but when i reboot the ip of eth1:1 and eth1:2 remove i want to reconfig them again
[19:27] <rrva> I want XvMC for my intel gma 4500 on intrepid. Are there any builds of xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.6.1 for intrepid or do I need to upgrade to jaunty?
[19:27] <francescogvfbtg> ragazze con cam ed msn ci siete?
[19:27] <fde> !it | francescogvfbtg
[19:27] <Jampiter> Does anyone else have any ideas? #xorg appears to be dead.
[19:27] <fde> francescogvfbtg: sudo aptitude install amsn if I understand correctly
[19:27] <Dillizar> !mk
[19:27] <Dillizar> !mkd
[19:27] <rrva> w
[19:28] <fabio_> Jampiter: what about xorg ?
[19:28] <fde> Dillizar: /msg the bot
[19:28] <[tla]> Hi.  I "apt-get install net-snmp" and the AES cipher is not supported in the snmpget etc commands for SNMPv3.  Do I need to install something else too or is AES support disabled for some reason?  Thx.
[19:28] <marcelkoopman> felicia, do these keys work in kde? gnome?
[19:28] <andresj> fde, lol it worked!! thank you :D why did i need to do that, though? if i already errased the file i created /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy
[19:28] <fde> fabio_: he wants to rotate his screen 90 degrees
[19:28] <helper> anyone can help ?
[19:28] <fde> andresj: it likely commented out things in /etc/apt/sources.list ... Software Sources repopulated it
[19:29] <dmz> howdy everyone, i thought the xserver servers were compiled w/out the default xcreensaver (the old MIT style one with the grey screen & X)? it appears that it is still there :(
[19:29] <felicia> marcelkoopman, im sorry, i forgot to say that im in gnome, and i used nvclock to get the backlight working.  its just that the fn+f5/f6 keys never worked
[19:29] <nilo_> Hello everybody
[19:29] <[tla]> helper: did you check /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:29] <fde> andresj: otherwise it would keep arguing over where to get files etc... and the idea of apt-cacher (and apt-proxy) is to have the network get it from a specific machine rather than over the internet
[19:29] <andresj> fde hahaha lol no idea, but it worked! :P
[19:29] <marcelkoopman> felicia, maybe there is a chance that it works in kde, because its more like the applications need to use the key events
[19:29] <fabio_> fde: just rotate yourself
[19:30] <nilo_> someone know or work with typolight??
[19:30] <fde> fabio_: I was thinking the same, actually... but I don't think that counts as support  :P
[19:30] <DizzyDoo> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu Server for the first time, rebooted and the computer seems to hang at "Verifying DMI Pool Data", any ideas what's going on here?
 it's not added there
[19:30] <fabio_> but there is a way to do this
[19:30] <fabio_> Gnome -> Display Manager.
  @ terminal i put : ifconfig eth1:1 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:30] <helper> but on the /etc/network/interfaces not there
[19:31] <suicidepills> lifestream: not much.  in regards to your question from before: when i say idle, i just mean that i wasn't using it.  it wasn't suspended or anything
[19:31] <felicia> marcelkoopman, i really prefer to use gnome, been using it for a while.  its just this laptop and key bindings
[19:31] <fde> helper: so populate /etc/network/interfaces with that info? why would ifconfig automatically populate that stuff?
[19:31] <suicidepills> lifestream: i can't suspend 'cause i used the Wubi installer
[19:31] <fabio_> Jampiter: Gnome -> Preferences _> Display Manager
[19:31] <[tla]> helper: ifconfig will not add it, either use the gui interface management tool or add it yourself
[19:31] <helper> fde i am new @ ubuntu :)
[19:31] <marcelkoopman> felicia, look for gnome applications that use these keys
[19:31] <burkmat> DizzyDoo, Did you change your hardware setup recently?
[19:32] <helper> ah ok
[19:32] <Jampiter> fabio_: No Display manager option :/
[19:32] <DizzyDoo> burkmat, I only just built my server box.
[19:32] <[tla]> helper: you are adding a sub-interface?  ie you really mean to config eth1:1 and not just eth1 ?
[19:32] <fde> helper: its not that difficult... mostly its the same as ifconfig but each option is on a different line... just check out man interfaces
[19:32] <helper> so i'll put : auto eth1:1 then iface eth1:1 inet static  then address <IP_ADDRESS> netmask 255.255.255. 0 ?
[19:32] <felicia> fde, i've got the backlight working via command line using nvclock.  i just cant get the fn+f5 and f6 working
[19:32] <marcelkoopman> felicia, In Gnome default values are put into hotkey preferences for keyboard-shortcuts which then does sensible things with them such as launch an e-mail client or change the volume and show an on screen display or play/pause music.
[19:32] <fabio_> Jampiter: gnome-display-properties
[19:32] <fde> felicia: you were told to use hotkey-setup... did you try that?
[19:33] <felicia> fde, already had them installed
[19:33] <regeya> rude
[19:33] <helper> [tla]> i want eth1 and config eth1:1 2 networks so @ /etc/network/interfaces  i'll put : auto eth1:1 then iface eth1:1 inet static  then address <IP_ADDRESS> netmask 255.255.255. 0 ?
[19:33] <burkmat> DizzyDoo, Well, if I'm not completely mistaken the issue would most likely be with BIOS. Have you got the latest drivers and BIOS upgrades?
[19:34] <maximus007> is there an selinux specific channel for ubuntu?
[19:34] <Jampiter> fabio_: In the rotation drop down menu, only "Normal" Appears
[19:34] <Vague> Is it possible to actually cause a program to wait a few seconds before startup, in essence, is there a delay command I can put under the session preferences for a program?
[19:34] <lifestream> suicidepills,  hmmmm... I'm not sure about the crash. Not even sure if it's specific to Wubi! :( Sorry!
[19:34] <burkmat> !gimp > burkmat
[19:34] <fde> maximus007: I believe so... but search google for 'ubuntu irc channel list' ... there is a wiki page with them all
[19:34] <felicia> fde, unless theres a way to run it, i dont know what to do :(
[19:34] <[tla]> helper: yes.  you may also want to add gateway <ip>
[19:35] <suicidepills> lifestream: no, it's cool.  i've been googling around and it seems to be a known problem.  no one has said anything about wubi being a suspect though...
[19:35] <lifestream> Vague,  you could put something like:     sleep 5  & YourProgram      where 5 is in seconds. Can be any number in seconds that you want
[19:35] <suicidepills> lifestream: i just remember hearing that ntfsg (or whatever it's called) was kind of unstable
[19:35] <DizzyDoo> burkmat: To be honest, I have to idea how to install the latest drivers or upgrade the BIOS, this is my first time with Linux. Google is telling me that the HD could be the component at fault here.
[19:35] <felicia> marcelkoopman, i've tried that... dont have options for brightness changing there.  how does one add they're own?
[19:36] <fde> suicidepills: ntfs-3g is pretty stable these days, it just lacks some features due to lack of specs etc
[19:36] <Vague> lifestream, so...under session preferences, if the command is sudo firestarter  --start-hidden I would put sleep where?
[19:36] <suicidepills> fde: ah, well maybe it's not that then...
[19:36] <fde> Vague: this is for Gnome or KDE? you can use the entire command you'd usually type within the Session config tool.
[19:37] <fabio_> Jampiter: man xrandr
[19:37] <lifestream> Vague,  sleep 5 & sudo firestarter --start-hidden    (replace 5 with the number of seconds you want)
[19:37] <suicidepills> lifestream: is there a log i could check for errors?
[19:37] <Vague> fde, gnome
[19:37] <Vague> lifestream, great, thanks
[19:37] <fde> suicidepills: there are a few... all in /var/log/
[19:38] <fabio_> Jampiter: xrandr --rotate .... try it
[19:38] <burkmat> DizzyDoo, It could be, but is this a completely new rig that's never been tested before?
[19:38] <suicidepills> fde: what should i be looking for?
[19:38] <fde> suicidepills: probably /var/log/messages
[19:38] <Jampiter> fabio_: Ok
[19:38] <lifestream> suicidepills,     maybe   dmesg            Type dmesg in a terminal
[19:38] <DizzyDoo> burkmat: Never been tested before
[19:38] <fde> suicidepills: dmesg | grep -i ntfs probably
[19:38] <chubby> hello
[19:38] <danopia> hai
[19:39] <Gumby> Does anyone here know what specifies which config files are placed in a packages .conffile locate in /var/lib/dpkg/info/  ?  I am trying to figure this out so a package I am creating does not have a specific file overwritten during a package version upgrade.
[19:39] <chubby> i have an problem with ubuntu 8.10 and network manager within umts
[19:39] <chubby> where i can specify the device file?
[19:39] <suicidepills> fde: nothing comes up...
[19:39] <suicidepills> lifestream: what else should i be looking for?
[19:40] <fde> suicidepills: try grep -i ee instead? that will return all errors
[19:40] <lifestream> Does anyone know how to force my fans to work? My PC is overheating because the fans will not come on
[19:40] <pop79> hi!
[19:40] <fde> Gumby: you probably want #ubuntu-motu - this is desktop support
[19:40] <Jampiter> lifestream: Are you sure they work?
[19:41] <suicidepills> fde: there's a few things...can i paste bin 'em to you?
[19:41] <burkmat> DizzyDoo, Hmm... Annoying issue, no doubt, not very much info on it. Could try poking about BIOS and clearing the CMOS (maybe the MB will reconfigure itself properly), but to be honest I have no idea how to properly fix it. Not really a Linux issue either... So I don't really know.
[19:41] <africaman> hi all
[19:41] <Jampiter> lifestream: They should come on if the computer is getting that hot
[19:41] <Gumby> fde, I'll give it a shot thx
[19:41]  * burkmat mumbles something about quit-shortcuts being evil.
[19:41] <fde> Gumby: been a while, but I'm fairly sure those files are in debian/control within the src.deb though
[19:41] <DizzyDoo> thanks anyway burkmat, I'll try... something
[19:41] <lifestream> Jampiter,  yes they work, I had Windows 7 Beta installed last week (just for giggles, but it made me gag so I came back to Linux), and the fans were working
[19:42] <pop79> My ati xpress graphics 200 graphics card *always* flickers with anything going on to do with 3d. What should i do?
[19:42] <burkmat> DizzyDoo, Good luck. :)
[19:42] <fde> Gumby: #ubuntu-motu concentrates on assisting new package maintainers and the like, so they should be helpful though
[19:42] <lifestream> Jampiter, I've never really paid much attention to it, because my house is always cool, but now I'm in a really hot room, so it's not helping ;p
[19:42] <lifestream> suicidepills,  i'm not really sure :/ I dont know much when it comes to log files :P
[19:42] <Jampiter> lifestream: I'm afraid I can't help you there then. My advice would be to remove the side of the computer if it is a desktop, and clean the heatsink if it is a laptop
[19:42] <allen> evening
[19:43] <shingouz> when preseeding an install, is there any way to tell the install to use a specific hostname? if there is, where should i put the value for the hostname?
[19:43] <hlm> allen, evening
[19:43] <pop79> !howdy |allen
[19:43] <fde> pop79: are you using fglrx or radeon driver?
[19:43] <africaman> take screen shot dialog box keep pop up on my desktop how can i spot this can any one help me pls
[19:43] <pop79> fglrx, i think
[19:43] <suicidepills> lifestream: it's cool, i'm sure i'll get it figured out eventually
[19:43] <jeeez> if I create a new profile in firefox and delete private data and stuff, will data from my old profile be wiped out too?
[19:44] <cliebow> anyone have ldap running in intrepid?
[19:44] <lifestream> Jampiter,  I just had the whole motherboard replaced a couple weeks ago (its a laptop, and I had DELL replace my vid card) so it should have new heatsink. But it's not the processor fan that I'm worried about ^^ It's the fans on the back of the desktop ^^
[19:44] <pop79> fde, fglrx i think :)
[19:44] <fde> pop79: don't guess... cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i fglrx return anything? how about lsmod | grep -i fglrx ?
[19:44] <africaman> take screen shot dialog box keep pop up on my desktop how can i spot this can any one help me pls
[19:44] <pop79> huh? fde
[19:44] <lifestream> jeeez, no, it wont, just the new one
[19:45] <jeeez> lifestream: thanks
[19:45] <fde> pop79: in Applications > Accessories > Terminal ... copy and paste those commands...
[19:45] <Jampiter> lifestream: I'm afraid I can't help you there :(
[19:45] <pop79> which ones fde?
[19:45] <lifestream> Jampiter, that's alright, thank you for trying :)
[19:45] <africaman> take screen shot dialog box keep pop up on my desktop how can i spot this can any one help me pls
[19:45] <Jampiter> lifestream: No problem.
[19:45] <fde> pop79: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i fglrx and lsmod | grep -i fglrx
[19:46] <n8tuserf> africaman-> am sorry, you are getting a pop up?
[19:46] <paradoxgo> There is a delay in response when I click by tapping on the touchpad. Can anyone help?
[19:46] <pop79> fde: ill post the result in pastebin, wait...
[19:46] <africaman> yes n8tuserf
[19:47] <africaman> yes n8tuserf
[19:47] <africaman> take screen shot dialog box keep pop up on my desktop how can i spot this can any one help me pls
[19:47] <lifestream> Does anyone know of a composer that can be used in Gnome? (Other than Compiz)
[19:48] <n8tuserf> africaman-> you can try   ps -aux   and look for the id of that popup on the list,  then kill -15 pidofpopup
[19:48] <pop79> fde: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/119794/
[19:48] <Slart> lifestream: there is a very simple composite manager you can run just to get transparency and such I think
[19:48] <Slart> lifestream: search in synaptic for composite manager
[19:48] <n8tuserf> africaman-> btw this ubuntu right and not windows?
[19:48] <fde> lifestream: compositor you mean? only full featured ones are kwin, xfwm4 and compiz
[19:48] <Brack10> how can I find out the name of my ALSA device for use in the config file of several audio players?
[19:48] <lifestream> Slart, Yeah, I want something really really basic, just enough to use AWN ^_^; .. cool idea, will search in synaptic
[19:49] <n8tuserf> Brack10-> try alsaconfig
[19:49] <lifestream> fde yeah, compositor. brain fart :p
[19:49] <Slart> !info xcompmgr | lifestream
[19:49] <Rencx> How i can stop program what not respond?
[19:49] <n8tuserf> Brack10-> oops sorry thats wrong command
[19:49] <Brack10> you mean alsaconf
[19:49] <lifestream> fde,  do you know if I can use xfwm4 on Gnome? I absolutely love that compositor, but I don't really care for xfce
[19:49] <Brack10> you're right that's not it
[19:49] <pop79> Rencx, on gnome bottom right click the app and select quit
[19:49] <Slart> Rencx: xkill might be useful.. or kill/pkill
[19:49] <fde> pop79: these are not the commands I told you... you forget the grep part of the xorg log
[19:50] <pop79> oops
[19:50] <pop79> ill do it again :)
[19:50] <allen> lol - i thought it was busy in here, left time zone set to usa instead of UK
[19:50] <Slart> Brack10: cat /proc/asound/cards might give you some info
[19:50] <fde> lifestream: you can use all window managers on all desktops... gnome insists you set the WINDOW_MANAGER= variable in ~/.xsession though
[19:50] <Brack10> slart: Ok once I'm done reconfiguring my ALSA ;)
[19:50] <Rencx> pop79: Slart: i use Ubuntu and cinelerra freeze after some use
[19:51] <pop79> ok
[19:51] <lifestream> fde, sounds good, *does a little dance* TY
[19:51] <pop79> you do use gnome...
[19:51] <romain__> fr
[19:51] <fde> lifestream: to temporarily test... you can just do window-manager --replace (for instance xfwm4 --replace)
[19:51] <pop79> ...Rencx
[19:51] <Slart> !fr | romain__
[19:52] <Rencx> pop79: i'm new to ubuntu so i dont now how to kill and why it freeze
[19:52] <fde> lifestream: they all adhere to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/wm-spec though
[19:53] <Slart> Rencx: pop79's suggestion is easy and works most of the time.. just right click on the application "button" in the window list..usually at the bottom of the screen... you'll get a small menu, select "close"
[19:53] <lifestream> fde, oh so happy ^^
[19:53] <fde> lifestream: heh  :)
[19:53] <Rencx> Slart: dont work for me
[19:54] <fde> pop79: so.... you gonna give me those commands output any time soon?
[19:54] <lifestream> fde, I used xfce for atleast a year, just for the compositor LOL but I dont like xfce
[19:54] <Slart> !doesntwork | Rencx
[19:54] <pop79> ok, if you right-click the gnome panel at the top (which is the horizontal bar containing applications) and click add to panel. look for force quit and when it appears, click it and click the app you want to freeze. simple :)
[19:54] <pop79> ...for Rencx
[19:54] <fabio_> !gnome | fabio_
[19:54] <pop79> fde, one minute...
[19:55] <fde> pop79: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i fglrx && lsmod | grep -i fglrx <--- copy and paste everything between the first c and the last x, paste this output to your fav pastebin
[19:55]  * fde wants more money
[19:56] <pop79> fde: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/119800/
[19:57] <MamboKurt> hi there
[19:57] <MamboKurt> i got a problem with my grphics card
[19:57] <pop79> !howdy |Mambokurt
[19:57] <MamboKurt> its an ati xpress 1200
[19:57] <pop79> MamboKurt, please don't say you have a problem, say what the problem is! :)
[19:57] <MamboKurt> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[19:57] <CarlFK> apt-get install mysql-server prompts for an admin pw - how can I suppress that (I'll deal with the pw later)
[19:57] <MamboKurt> when i enter glxinfo
[19:58] <MamboKurt> name of display: :0.0
[19:58] <MamboKurt> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:58] <MamboKurt> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:58] <MamboKurt> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:58] <MamboKurt> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:58] <MamboKurt> Segmentation fault
[19:58] <FloodBot1> MamboKurt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:58] <Rencx> pop79: sory it just stands i even kill cinelerra throught system monitor but it is still here and always when i open it keeps freeze
[19:58] <Slart> CarlFK: it's a command that installs software to your system.. it needs root permissions to do that
[19:58] <CarlFK> I found dpkg --no-triggers but not sure how to use that with apt-get
[19:58] <Slart> CarlFK: or you mean the admin pw for the database?
[19:58] <pop79> What, is cinelerra?
[19:58] <CarlFK> Slart: er.. sudo aptget... right.
[19:59] <MamboKurt> i get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:59] <pop79> Ill look it up rencx...
[19:59] <MamboKurt> i searched the web
[19:59] <Seta_> what's the command to remove hardware?
[19:59] <MamboKurt> but nothing there
[19:59] <Seta_> Example, I need to remove the HDA Intel so all sound goes to my Creative X-Fi
[19:59] <fde> pop79: that looks like it should be fine... hmm... does 'glxinfo | grep direct' return yes?
[19:59] <MamboKurt> anyone knows the trick?
[19:59] <pop79> MamboKurt, please, try to keep any sentences that you can say in one, in one!
[19:59] <fde> Seta_: Creative X-Fi doesn't work with Linux
[20:00] <L3Tum> I think I have a conflict between my network card and mouse...can anyone help?
[20:00] <evilbug> i'm thinking of making an ubuntu server and wondering if having a 32gb or 64gb ssd as the system drive and then have a 10/15000rpm secondary hdd with more capacity.
[20:00] <Seta_> yes it does. I installed the driver for it. However, I want to uninstall the HDA Intel
[20:00] <pop79> ill have looky fde...
[20:00] <africaman> n8tuserf >i had this bash: kill: pidofpopup: arguments must be process or job
[20:00] <evilbug> is a good idea. *
[20:00] <fde> Seta_: you can add 'blacklist snd-hda-intel' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist though
[20:00] <pop79> fde: it returns "Yes"
[20:01] <dx00> hi everyone, can someone help mount a remote windows share so its read/write using fstab
[20:01] <Seta_> fde: will that remove it from the hardware list?
[20:01] <Slart> !mount | dx00
[20:01] <fde> pop79: then I am not sure why you would get flickers... and there is nothing we can do considering its proprietary
[20:01] <n8tuserf> africaman-> you have to find out the correct pid of the popup, it is listed when you do a   ps -aux    look at second column
[20:01] <Slart> !ntfs | dx00
[20:01] <Bobber> evilbug it's a good idea, but have you seen how fast embedded linux is?
[20:01] <dx00> i'm using cifs
[20:01] <pop79> Oh, sad, i might have to move from ubuntu, and ive used it for over a year...
[20:01] <MamboKurt> ok. i installed the atifglrx driver. now my get "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." when i run glxinfo. my card is ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series. if somebody knows how to get it working, please tell me
[20:01] <pop79> :)
[20:01] <pop79> :(
[20:01] <evilbug> Bobber- embedded linux?
[20:01] <Slart> dx00: I think there are some examples at those links.. you might want to check !samba too
[20:01] <dx00> and i can view but i can't edit files
[20:02] <fde> Seta_: that will ensure it stops loading at boot... then just reboot so the creative is set as default sound device (else it would still be pci1 rather than pci0 not that that means anything to you probably)
[20:02] <marathon> hello i lost the caption in the windows
[20:02] <marathon> how to restore it?
[20:02] <pop79> dx00: try https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2008-May/003565.html
[20:02] <fde> marathon: care to elaborate or throw a pic to picpaste.com ?
[20:02] <marathon> when i open firefox i have the menus but not the caption to move the window
[20:03] <fde> marathon: what caption?
[20:03] <Rencx> Does anyone now how i can take snapshot from my laptop camera?
[20:03]  * Slart thinks marathon has lost his window-decorations
[20:03] <marathon> yes
[20:03] <Bobber> evilbug yeah, linux boots up in less than half a second
[20:03] <dx00> thx, ill check those out\
[20:03] <Seta_> fde: also, would you know why #ubuntu forwards me to ubuntu-topic or whatever it is..? like..another room? it claims I have connection troubles, but changing my nickname fixes it.
[20:03] <marathon> how to restore the decoration?
[20:03] <Slart> Rencx: tried "cheese"?
[20:03] <fabio_> metacity
[20:03] <fabio_> marathon: metacity
[20:03] <marathon> i have compiz
[20:03] <evilbug> Bobber- sounds great :)
[20:03] <shingouz> or marathon has some problems with his window manager
[20:03] <Slart> Seta_: which room were you forwarded too?
[20:03] <regeya> yippee
[20:03]  * pop79 kindly and patiently waits for any problems that he can fix to come up :)
[20:03] <marathon> ciao fabio
[20:04] <marathon> i think is window manager
[20:04] <Dillizar> where can i set the witch programs to be run on starting
[20:04]  * hlm thanks pop79
[20:04] <Seta_> fde: ubuntu-topic I think it was..let me check
[20:04] <MamboKurt> pop79: no ideas?
[20:04] <marathon> what to kill and restart?=
[20:04] <Slart> !boot | Dillizar
[20:04] <pop79> huh?
[20:04] <pop79> hlm, what do you mean?
[20:04] <MamboKurt> to my issue about the graphics cards
[20:04] <fde> Seta_: it is due to the room settings... means max users was triggered
[20:04] <pop79> oh...
[20:04] <bastid_raZor> !session > Dillizar .. here
[20:04] <marathon> ah no i haven't lost the decoration
[20:04] <pop79> MamboKurt, what is you're problem?
[20:05] <hlm> pop79, you said you were waiting for any problems to come up that you can help with
[20:05] <Seta_> fde: then why doesn't it just reject other users from entering?
[20:05] <marathon> the decoration is out of the window
[20:05] <Rencx> Slart: will try it now
[20:05] <pop79> oh...
[20:05] <fde> Seta_: some channels trigger that if you're not identified too, but this isn't one of those
[20:05] <marathon> when i move the cube i can see the decoration
[20:05] <MamboKurt> when i try glxinfo i get "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[20:05] <fde> Seta_: due to the topic in that channel... it informs you of what happened... and who knows, you might still get help in there
[20:06] <pop79> MamboKurt, is your card Ati?
[20:06] <MamboKurt> yes
[20:06] <Rencx> Slard: can ubutu set 2 screens what is not miror but extend?
[20:06] <hlm> !themes
[20:06] <fabio_> MamboKurt, is your card Ati (sh*it)?
[20:06] <MamboKurt> lspci says: "ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]"
[20:06] <Dillizar> bastid_raZor, thanks :D
[20:06] <hlm> !changethemes
[20:06] <Slart> !twinview | Rencx
[20:06] <Dillizar> i forgot ;D
[20:06] <hlm> ubottu, thanks
[20:06] <africaman> wat is the comman for fomating
[20:07] <bastid_raZor> Dillizar; glad i could help.
[20:07] <fde> marathon: hit alt-f7 and move it down?
[20:07] <Slart> Rencx: I think there are some other tools available too.. I cant remember what they are called though
[20:07] <hlm> ubottu, I will always know your a bot ;-)
[20:07] <Slart> africaman: mkfs normally
[20:07] <Dillizar> !cairo
[20:07] <pop79> MamboKurt: try going into Add/Remove, Search for ati, and there should be a control panel or something, click the tick, and download and install...
[20:07] <fde> Dillizar: /msg the bot
[20:07] <pop79> try that first MamboKurt, ill give you more steps after
[20:07] <Dillizar> ex. pls fde
[20:07] <evilbug> Bobber- what ssd brand(s) should i go with?
[20:08] <fde> Dillizar: just /msg ubottu cairo for instance...
[20:08] <MamboKurt> pop79: ok
[20:08] <Seta_> fde: ah...crap, how do I edit the blacklist file again?
[20:08] <pop79> MamboKurt, it's called, Catalyst Control center
[20:08] <fde> Dillizar: else you add too much noise to the channel, which can't be going on in a channel this large
[20:09] <Dillizar> k fde now i know what you were trying to say :)
[20:09] <fde> Seta_: echo "blacklist snd-hda-intel" | sudo tee -i /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:10] <lupine_85> question - will Bad Things happen if I delete certain .list files in /var/lib/dpkg/info ?
[20:10] <dx00> //Server/share /file cifs iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,noperm,file_mode=0666,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[20:10] <dx00> thats my fstab line
[20:10] <dx00> still cant write to it
[20:10] <dx00> but it mounts and i can read files
[20:10] <fde> Seta_: to make sure... cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and look at the last line  :)
[20:10] <brunner> I just installed Ubuntu server, and I tried installing X using apt, but when I type "startx" at the command line, it dies with the error, "No valid FontPath count be found"
[20:10] <lupine_85> I've had a spot of filesystem corruption leaving a bunch of them needing to be replaced, but dpkg won't work due to the files being the wrong format
[20:10] <fde> brunner: how did you install X?
[20:11] <vigo_> lupine_85: If they do, that is what backups are for.
[20:11] <hlm> fde, brunner did it through apt
[20:11] <Seta_> fde: would it be normal fo rit ot be the only line?
[20:11] <prince_jammys> Seta_: tee -a, or you will truncate the file
[20:11] <fde> hlm: I gathered that, I am more meaning the command
[20:11] <hlm> fde, sorry :(
[20:12] <Seta_> fde: truncate?
[20:12] <Ademan> can anyone tell me why I have fglrx-modaliases on an ati-less system?
[20:12] <lupine_85> vigo_: I don't have a backup of /var
[20:12] <MamboKurt> pop79: i installed it and tried to run it, but the pops up a window saying it has problems initalising and that there is no driver or it's not properly working.
[20:12] <fde> Seta_: replace entirely... in this case... did you already do the command?
[20:12] <lupine_85> bit of an oops on my part
[20:12] <brunner> fde: I manually used a long apt-get install command and included almost every package listed as a dependency of ubuntu-desktop
[20:12] <Seta_> yes..*twitch*
[20:12] <pop79> oohhhhhh, looks bad MamboKurt, but i will try my best to help, wait a sec...
[20:12] <Seta_> fde: Yeah...you said tee-i
[20:12] <vigo_> lupine_85: Make one before you goof with it.
[20:12] <Ademan> Seta_: you did back up the original file?... right? :-p
[20:13] <brunner> fde: including gnome-core, gdm, gnome-system-tools, gnome-tils, and xserver-xorg
[20:13] <Seta_> fde, ademan: uh...no...~_~
[20:13] <fde> Seta_: no problem, but my apologies... let me paste a default blacklist file, then I'll tell you how to put it back
[20:13] <MamboKurt> pop79: maybe should mention that i installed jaunty today :)
[20:13] <lupine_85> wedll, kind of goes without saying
[20:13] <Jampiter> Hi
[20:13] <vigo_> lupine_85: I do not see as anything could really go bad, there is the restore function
[20:13] <Jampiter> My xorg.conf has just wiped itself
[20:13] <pop79> Oh, i dont think you should have, it has actually been known to have a few ati problems
[20:13] <brunner> maybe I should just give in and install ubuntu-desktop
[20:14] <Seta_> it was a fresh install with only one other blacklist entry
[20:14] <Jampiter> What do I put back into it to make the screen resolution go back to normal? (1680x1050)
[20:14] <lupine_85> vigo_: I was just wondering if anyone actually knew before I tried it
[20:14] <pop79> MamboKurt, go to System, Administration, Update manager and search for updates
[20:14] <lupine_85> `file *list | grep HTML |wc -l` gives me 8 entries, "woo"
[20:15] <MamboKurt> pop79: i tried the newest by ubuntu and the one from the ati hompage
[20:15] <pop79> Jampitar: Get viruss scanner from add/remove
[20:15] <pop79> MamboKurt, try as i said, there might be certain updates needed.
[20:15] <brunner> fde: okay, I just gave in.  I'm not installing ubuntu-desktop... 434 more packages
[20:15] <Jampiter> pop79: It's not a virus, I was modifying it but it's just wiped itself
[20:15] <L3Tum> Does anybody know anything about hardware conflicts?
[20:16] <lupine_85> right, crunch time
[20:16] <pop79> oh, i thought it just "wiped itself without notification".
[20:16] <MamboKurt> pop79: brb
[20:16] <vigo_> lupine_85: But you never know, so back it up if you have data that you want saved, OSs crash, is normally user error, try this, copy the text from that command, save it, then edit the other, if goof ups happen, then replace the original configs
[20:16] <pop79> MamboKurt: In English please?
[20:16] <fde> Seta_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/119804/  <-- throw that into any file in your home folder... then sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist && sudo mv thisfile /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:16] <MamboKurt> pop79:be right back
[20:16] <fde> Seta_: again, my apologies, wasn't thinking
[20:16] <pop79> ok
[20:17] <Jampiter> Anyone? This is quite urgent!
[20:17] <fde> !urgent
[20:17] <lupine_85> vigo_: mmhm. ooh, it downgrades the problem from an error to a serious warning
[20:17] <lupine_85> win
[20:17] <fde> !patience
[20:17] <pop79> Jampitar, i might be able to help, just wait...
[20:17] <Seta_> fde: thanks. I'll take care of it
[20:17] <vigo_> lupine_85: That sounds better.
[20:17] <fde> Seta_: that already has the hda intel blacklist entry too, so then you should just be able to restart
[20:18] <pop79> Jampiter: i think i might be able to help...
[20:18] <fde> Jampiter: in intrepid, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...
[20:18] <vigo_> lupine_85: Gratzi!
[20:19] <Jampiter> fde: There was a few minutes ago!
[20:19] <Guest17074> hi folks. firefox refuses to start after an apt-get update. seems that it looks for libgnomeui which is not installed on my system.
[20:19] <Jampiter> pop79: Oh?
[20:19] <pop79> one minute, jampiter
[20:19] <marioz> help, I think my hard drive is failing
[20:19] <regeya> beg your pardon, fde?
[20:19] <marioz> it says "error reading block" when booting
[20:19] <fde> regeya: ?
[20:19] <pop79> Jampiter: what is your graphics card?
[20:20] <Jampiter> ATI Radeon 200M
[20:20] <pop79> ok...
[20:20] <regeya> I'm not within reach of an intrepid machine, but I just modified an xorg.conf on an intrepid machine last night...
[20:20] <smokeytheman> hi, is there a terminal command for changing the resolution? or better yet to launch the interface to change the resolution?
[20:20] <fde> regeya: in intrepid, Xorg handles those things automatically, so by default the file is unnecessary.
[20:20]  * regeya facepalm
[20:21] <fde> regeya: could be an additional tool added the file... but native drivers don't require it
[20:21] <L3Tum> fde, What does intrepid use? This might help me also... I can't get my mouse to work. I found an xorg.conf file in intrepid, and it had some devices in there, just not mouse. But when I added mouse it still did not work. What does intrepid use in place of xorg.conf?
[20:21]  * regeya facepalm again
[20:21] <MamboKurt> pop79: updated and restarted the xserver. same problems as before
[20:21] <fde> regeya: in this case, the ati packages likely modified it
[20:21] <mikeshollen> I'm trying to figure out which device my keyboard is
[20:21] <fde> regeya: ?
[20:21] <mikeshollen> when I run the command ls -l /dev/input/by-id/ it doesn't seem to work
[20:21] <lupine_85> OK, I can install stuff again now *phew*
[20:21] <hlm> need help with installing a metacity theme, after adding it through the appearances dialog it is not showing up
[20:21] <mikeshollen> it tells me there is no such directory
[20:22] <vigo_> lupine_85: Whew! neato work
[20:22] <pop79> MamboKurt: Very sorry, but I don't know any other possible solutions... sorry, but you'll have to look elsewhere
[20:22] <fde> L3Tum: automatic configuration... Adam Jackson has been working on it for like 3 years and it finally went into 7.3 ... regeya you might want to look into this too
[20:22] <MamboKurt> pop79: any idead where?
[20:22] <fde> mikeshollen: it should be handled via hal and evdev ...
[20:22] <mikeshollen> fde: what do you mean?
[20:22] <regeya> in most cases, it's not necessary to modify it, I'll agree.  I've installed intrepid on 3 machines so far, one using an ati card, another has an nvidia card, the third uses unichrome.  all 3 machines are exceptions to the rule, I guess, because all 3 of 'em have xorg.conf.  there's not much to the file, but it's there :-)
[20:23] <supervisor> oi
[20:23] <aluno> Tudo bem?
[20:23] <fde> mikeshollen: your keyboard... it should be handled via hal and evdev now... instead of -input-kbd
[20:23] <pop79> MamboKurt: try #ati #nvidia or #xorg
[20:23] <ikonia> MamboKurt: what is is the issue
[20:24] <ikonia> pop79: why are you directing people to #ati #nvidia without knowing what card he has ?
[20:24] <MamboKurt> ikonia: he knows
[20:24] <ikonia> MamboKurt: what card do you have ?
[20:24] <ikonia> you cant have an ati and an nvidia
[20:24] <mikeshollen> fde: what I'm trying to do is run ventrilo through wine, I want to be able to play a full screen game and use my push to talk key, but vent does not pick up that i'm pushing the control button if it's not in focus. so I downloaded ventriloctrl which is a program that will forward my key to vent, but it needs to know what value my keyboard is so i can give it the PPT key.
[20:24] <madafaker> witam
[20:24] <pop79> ikonia: I was only trying to help
[20:24] <MamboKurt> ikonia: i have a problem with my ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[20:24] <ikonia> so why are you being directed to the wrong channels
[20:24] <madafaker> moglby mi ktos polecic jakis edytor do c++
[20:24] <ikonia> pop79: directing people to the wrong channels is not help
[20:24] <pop79> sorry
[20:24] <ikonia> MamboKurt: ok - what is the issue ?
[20:25] <lupine_85> just need to reinstall another 35 packages to get rid of the serious warnings
[20:25] <pop79> im leaving now :(
[20:25] <hlm> grrr
[20:25] <fde> regeya: well, if you're using the proprietary drivers... yes I would suspect they'll be more noisy... as unichrome needs settings for your tablet layout etc... so yes, makes sense it would be noisier... official drivers should now only require the layout at this point though, and entirely removing the file shouldn't effect anything
[20:25] <pjsturgeon> trying to get ethernet working on ubuntu server 8.10. not sure how to configure /etc/networking/interfaces as it says "Reconfiguring networking interfaces [OK] then does nothing
[20:25] <MamboKurt> glxinfo says: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".". when i try to start ccc its says it has problems initialising and that there is no driver or not properly working.
[20:26] <fde> regeya: don't try it on the 3 machines you listed though, they will all require the things set up in the file
[20:26] <fde> mikeshollen: #winehq
[20:26] <ikonia> MamboKurt: what ati driver have you configured it to use, ati cards are famous for bad support and being driver fussy
[20:26] <Pici> !pl | madafaker
[20:26] <blizzle> MamboKurt, You might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[20:26] <pjsturgeon> I am using onboard ethernet and running /etc/init.d/netowkring restart afterwards
[20:26] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: what is the problem with the networking ?
[20:26] <vigo_> I have a tail, see ya
[20:26] <lupine_85> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh would help more, possibly
[20:26] <pjsturgeon> not getting any signs of connectivity
[20:26] <lupine_85> depending on the problem, mind ;) - I missed the start
[20:27] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: can you expand on that, what are you treating as a sign of conectivity
[20:27] <africaman> any time i upgrade to 8.10 my laptop keep hanging or freezing any thing i can do
[20:27] <L3Tum> Can anybody help me with a possible conflict between mouse and network card?
[20:27] <MamboKurt> i reconfigures xserver-xorg more often as i have fingers.
[20:27] <Guest17074> who is the monkey who made firefox-3.0 depend on half of gnome ?
[20:27] <ikonia> MamboKurt: that's not what I asked
[20:27] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: ping google.com, ping <IP_ADDRESS>, etc
[20:27] <BULLE> Guest17074: welcome to the wonderfull world of gtk+
[20:28] <Guest17074> BULEE : :-(
[20:28] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: its not getting to network OR internet
[20:28] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: ok - does your card have an ip address ?
[20:28] <fde> Guest17074: mozilla... as they use gtk and several other mechanisms specific to gnome.... also, if you're using aptitude or installing suggests automatically, it will bring in firefox-gnome-support which will depend on more
[20:28] <MamboKurt> ikonia: i installed the one from ubuntu and system->administration->hardware drivers says im using "ATI Fire GL"
[20:28] <ikonia> MamboKurt: and that's marked as "in use" in that gui
[20:28] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: how would I find that out? It is an onboard ethernet controller and I have it configured to use dhcp
[20:29] <Guest17074> here is the list of what it brings with it
[20:29] <Guest17074>   apt-xapian-index apturl firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding gksu gnome-app-install gnome-icon-theme
[20:29] <MamboKurt> ikonia: it's green
[20:29] <Guest17074>   gnome-keyring libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common libcairo-perl libgksu2-0
[20:29] <Guest17074>   libglib-perl libgnome-keyring0 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-canvas-perl libgnome2-common libgnome2-perl
[20:29] <Guest17074>   libgnome2-vfs-perl libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0 libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-extra
[20:29] <FloodBot1> Guest17074: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <Guest17074>   libgp11-0 libgtk2-perl libgtop2-7 libgtop2-common liblaunchpad-integration1 libpam-gnome-keyring
[20:29] <gejr_> how can i see what services are set to start on bootup ?
[20:29] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: please paste the output of a.) ifconfig -a and your networking file in a pastebin
[20:29] <prince_jammys> heh
[20:29] <gejr_> from console that is..
[20:29] <lupine_85> pjsturgeon: check layer2 (tcpdump -i ....) and layer3 (ip addr show)
[20:29]  * pop79 would like it if people appriciate that im helping them.
[20:29] <fde> Guest17074: why are you pasting this? we can read the depends ourselves  :/
[20:29] <ikonia> MamboKurt: ok so that means it's in use, I suspect that 3d support is not available for your card and that xorg driver version
[20:29] <lupine_85> well, assuming iproute2 is installed
[20:30] <ikonia> pop79: please stop with that, I'm sure people are gratful for any valuable support
[20:30] <pop79> ok
[20:30] <lupine_85> otherwise ifconfig ... (eth0, probably)
[20:30] <hlm> ERR: installing new themes is totally suckish, it does not work properly, it changes the main bars to something that reminds me of windows 95
[20:30] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: how to paste that much? my troubled pc is failing to get on the network and there is too much to type over :)
[20:30] <ikonia> !pastebin > pjsturgeon
[20:30] <MamboKurt> ikonia: thanks. i think i read that this xoorg version is not supported by now
[20:30] <ikonia> MamboKurt: xorg version in ubuntu is fully supported
[20:30] <Guest17074> 51 new packages that i don't need !!! I'm regretting my apt-get upgrade
[20:30] <ikonia> MamboKurt: what version of ubuntu are you using
[20:30] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: i understand pastebin, i just cant get the output from that machine to this
[20:31] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: ooh I see
[20:31] <regeya> and back on xorg, if support for xorg.conf ever goes completely away, I'm buying a mac :->
[20:31] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: i see settings for lo, wlan0 and wmaster0
[20:31] <fde> Guest17074: also, yes, those things are all from firefox-3.0-gnome-support
[20:31] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: but no ethernet
[20:31] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: ok - ok - so that means there is no ethernet device seen
[20:31] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: you don't seen eth0, eth1 anything like that
[20:31] <Guest17074> any way to remove these dependancies ?
[20:31] <lupine_85> pjsturgeon: ifconfig -a ?
[20:31] <torkel_> I'm having trouble with my wireless connection in ubuntu 8.10. It worked great with hardy and intrepid, but when upgrading to intrepid it all goes wrong. First of all the default Broadcom STA driver (i got a b4311) did not work as expected, it's unable to connect to the networks. Then I installed b43-fwcutter and correct firmware, it seems to load the drivers ok but no it's nagging about that the wlancard is turned off. I've turned it on...
[20:31] <ikonia> Guest17074: no
[20:31] <MamboKurt> ikonia: jaunty. i crashed my ibex and i thought it would be a good time to switch. thought so....
[20:31] <lupine_85> or is it actually not there?
[20:31] <ikonia> Guest17074: you'd have to rebuild the package
[20:31] <Guest17074> :-((((
[20:32] <L3Tum> My mouse and my network card do not work can somebody help me?
[20:32] <ikonia> MamboKurt: jaunty support is in #ubuntu+1 and not supported/in development, using development versions is not a good idea
[20:32]  * Guest17074 will drop firefox
[20:32] <Guest17074> thanks anyway
[20:32] <fde> Guest17074: they are not deps... just 'apt-get install firefox-3.0'  :/
[20:32] <lupine_85> yay for broken kernalage, I guess
[20:32] <ikonia> lupine_85: what kernel version is causing you problems
[20:32] <MamboKurt> ikonia: i just realized it
[20:32] <Guest17074> these 51 dependances appeared when removing and reinstalling firefox-3.0
[20:33] <Guest17074> ah I know what happened
[20:33] <pop79> Does KDE stand for Knoppix Desktop Enviornment?
[20:33]  * lupine_85 notes that mixing aptitude and apt-get is generally Bad
[20:33] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: no, you think onboard ethernet is the issue? i have ripped out a spare pci network card to try
[20:33] <lupine_85> ikonia: none, I'm just commenting generally
[20:33] <ikonia> pop79: no, Kommon Desktop envionment, and that is offtopic here
[20:33] <Guest17074> I did not install firefox from ubuntu but from their web site if i remember well
[20:33] <Guest17074> i'll try reinstalling it from there
[20:33] <xpot> Question: can anyone help me with a memory address issue? Running ubuntu 8.1 amd64 just added 8GB DDR only Addressing 7.3GB
[20:33] <ikonia> Guest17074: that would be unwise
[20:33] <regeya> no.  the K just stands for K now.  It used to be Kool Desktop Environment...and as I typed that, ikonia gave an answer I'd not heard before...thanks ikonia
[20:33] <ikonia> xpot: what makes you think that
[20:33] <torkel_> anyone has any idea on how i could get this broadcom 4311 working on my laptop? Tried the propretary default driver, tried b43-fwcutter (failed because it says my wlan card is turned off, which i'm unable to turn on)?
[20:33] <Veratyr9> !mount
[20:33] <fde> Guest17074: then why are you complaining to us?
[20:34] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: if you have no eth0/eth1 device from ifconfig -a then you have no network card detected
[20:34] <Guest17074> what would be unwise would be to clutter my system because a gmoron decided to add a dependancy on gnome-support-whatever
[20:34] <xpot> ikonia: resource monitor is showing that
[20:34] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: grep eth /var/log/syslog.log
[20:34] <ikonia> xpot: check "free"
[20:34] <Guest17074> [21:37] *** You have been kicked from channel #ubuntu by ikonia (stop name calling, I asked you).
[20:35] <ikonia> Guest17074: yes I know that
[20:35] <Guest17074> fyi i am trying to run kubuntu, not ubuntu
[20:35] <Guest17074> bye
[20:35] <nitridr> anyone know why i have to reconnect my bluetooth keyboard and mouse every time i reboot?
[20:35] <regeya> o_O
[20:35] <xpot> ikonia: I am looking at the "System Monitor" shows "Memory 850MiB of 7.3GiB
[20:36] <xpot> ikonia: is there a cli cmd I can use?
[20:36] <ikonia> xpot: check the output of "free"
[20:36] <jester314> hello!
[20:36] <Drunkymonkey> ooouu
[20:36] <xpot> ikonia: oh, duh
[20:36] <ikonia> xpot: from what your saying resource monitor is showing 850 meg in use out 7.3gb free
[20:36] <Drunkymonkey> Hello from Russia =)
[20:36] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: no syslog.log there, tried locate and it failed
[20:36] <fde> free -m if you want it to make sense
[20:36] <ikonia> which ties in with what you've said
[20:36] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: sys.log sorry
[20:36] <pjsturgeon> tried updatedb and that failed too
[20:36] <pjsturgeon> >.<
[20:36] <xpot> ikonia: yes
[20:37] <marathon> hello i m trying to connect another pc with ubuntu and samba 3.2.3 but it asks always for passowrd
[20:37] <L3Tum> I need help with mouse not working......somebody....I've been trying to fix this for 3 days straight....possibly a conflict with network card, can anybody help me?
[20:37] <marathon> the password is right
[20:37] <Drunkymonkey> Епта!
[20:37] <lupine_85> L3Tum: what happens when you remove the mouse? does the network card work?
[20:37] <xpot> ikonia: Total=7488 ??
[20:38] <BossaNestaAFK> hi guys.. is there a search function in apt-get?
[20:38] <ikonia> xpot: boot the "memcheck" option from good, you may have bad ram
[20:38] <ikonia> BossaNestaAFK: apt-cache
[20:38] <lupine_85> BossaNestaAFK: apt-cache search
[20:38] <BossaNestaAFK> thx guys..
[20:38] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: it has spotted my realtek but says "Driver 's'd' needs updating, please use bus_type methods
[20:38] <wes1> I would like my dyndns account to forward all connection attempts directly to a pc behind my router. How do I do this? Im using Hardy Heron
[20:38] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: ahhh, looks like there is a problem with your card/kernel module, hence why it's not being found
[20:38] <xpot> iknoia: ok, will do
[20:38] <L3Tum> lupine_85, no. Usb mouse will work, but not the PS/2 mouse. network card I installed a week ago and never got it to work. I've tried everything on google to fix the mouse and the card, so the only thing I can think of is maybe a conflict between these
[20:39] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: think i'll have more luck with another card?
[20:39] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: if it's supported, sure
[20:39] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: most main makes are
[20:39] <pjsturgeon> d-link, lets hope so
[20:39] <BossaNestaAFK> so, if i wanna install some driver and i need to recomplile my kernel, is kernel-package is what i need instead of "kernel-header"?
[20:39] <ikonia> BossaNestaAFK: nope
[20:39] <ikonia> BossaNestaAFK: only need to recompile the kernel if you want them built into the kernel, or the module requires a specific kernel version
[20:39] <BossaNestaAFK> ikonia, oh... so.. it should be kernel-headers?
[20:40] <wes1> I would like my dyndns account to forward all connection attempts directly to a pc behind my router. How do I do this? Im using Hardy Heron
[20:40] <lupine_85> L3Tum: quite possibly, yeah. Are the PCI slots set to be managed by the O/S in your BIOS?
[20:40] <BossaNestaAFK> ikonia, i'm running a special kernel,  2.6.24-21-eeepc .. i can't download the header.. @@
[20:40] <ikonia> BossaNestaAFK: why do you need the header
[20:41] <lupine_85> BossaNestaAFK: you can use the sources in place of the headers
[20:41] <ikonia> wes1: that's nothing to with ubuntu - that's a router config
[20:41] <pop79> ikonia: just to remind you that you forgot to take the away message "not at desk"
[20:41] <BossaNestaAFK> something wrong with my Virtual Box, it show warning.. in my Fedora i could fix it with the VBox command
[20:41] <L3Tum> lupine_85, I don't know. What do I look for? I have changed the BIOS setting for port 1 from auto to com1 back to auto, nothing happened. I don't know what to look for other than that
[20:41] <ikonia> pop79: done, thank you
[20:41] <BossaNestaAFK> lupine_85, oh.. yeah.. the source.. that's right!!
[20:41] <lupine_85> L3Tum: there should be a Plug 'n Play menu somewhere
[20:42] <wes1> ikonia; I said behind my router, so it have everything to do with ubuntu, its ubuntu software
[20:42] <lupine_85> BossaNestaAFK: it's a good bet, since they're required by GPL to make it available :)
[20:42] <ikonia> wes1: your router forwards to things behind your router - not your clients
[20:42] <wes1> ikonia; sure i could make it forward to my router, then id have to use port forwarding to the comp or i can forward it directly to the comp via software
[20:42] <sakyamuni> I added a file to /etc/init.d, how can I make it so it starts/stop like the other scripts?
[20:42] <TruthTaco> how do i format a USB drive
[20:42] <lupine_85> L3Tum: the other option, of course, would be to buy a USB mouse
[20:42] <L3Tum> lupine_85, yes, I'm there....PNP OS Installed=NO, Resources Controlled By=Auto....
[20:42] <BossaNestaAFK> lupine_85, hehe.. i forgot where can i download kernel source... can u tell me the name of the package?
[20:42]  * hlm is now here to help! :-)
[20:43] <wes1> ikonia no
[20:43] <BossaNestaAFK> lupine_85, oh.. sorry.. it's not a command kernel.. so i have to google it myself, right?
[20:43] <lupine_85> TruthTaco: mkfs.ext3 /dev/<whatever>
[20:43] <ikonia> wes1: what ?
[20:43] <ikonia> wes1: you want connections from the internet to forward to your PC ?
[20:43] <racecar-56> my floppy drive dosen't work, it isn't detected but in windows it seems to work, what's the prob?
[20:43] <lupine_85> BossaNestaAFK: it's BIOS-specific, yeah
[20:43] <ikonia> wes1: is that what your asking ?
[20:43] <TruthTaco> thanks
[20:43] <wes1> !inadyn | ikonia
[20:43] <lupine_85> whoops, getting my wires crossed
[20:43] <BossaNestaAFK> lupine_85, hehe. found it.. thx
[20:43] <wes1> !ddclient | ikonia
[20:43] <xpot> ikonia: is Total = 7992 Good?  I guess I just needed a reboot.
[20:43] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: ifconfig shows me eth1, set me networking file to http://pastebin.com/m7632a035
[20:43] <sakyamuni> anyone know something like chkconfig for ubuntu? sysv-rc-conf?
[20:43] <wes1> it doesnt know anything about either
[20:43] <ikonia> xpot: if your total is changing - that's worrrying
[20:43] <ikonia> xpot: check in memtest
[20:44] <xpot> ikonia: ok
[20:44] <wes1> ikonia; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[20:44] <wes1> I just hoped some1 has done it
[20:44] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: saved, restarted, no networking still
[20:44] <lupine_85> do >4GB kernels steal a chunk for the kernel?
[20:44] <L3Tum> lupine_85, yes I could try that. I'll just use the usb mouse on that machine until I get another one
[20:44] <wes1> and can verify it works
[20:44] <lupine_85> (and would that show up in free?)
[20:44] <lintian> how do i make an index or database of all my harddisks ?
[20:44] <ikonia> xtm-lap: I'd expect to see 8192mb of ram
[20:44] <benilson> boa tarde!
[20:45] <lupine_85> lintian: not sure what you're after?
[20:45] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: look at ifconfig -a again please now with your new card in
[20:45] <tyler_d1> anyone know of an sql utility for linux?
[20:45] <ikonia> lintian: sudo updatedb
[20:45] <tyler_d1> query browser that is
[20:45] <benilson> alguem aqui é brasileiro?
[20:45] <ikonia> tyler_d1: for what database ?
[20:45] <wes1> It says Using your Computer to perform Dynamic DNS Notification
[20:45] <racecar-56> my floppy drive dosen't work, it isn't detected but in windows it seems to work, what's the prob? (if you know how to fix this please pm me)
[20:45] <L3Tum> lupine_85, Are these the correct BIOS settings for PnP though?
[20:45] <tyler_d1> ikonia: sql2005
[20:45] <wes1> so its software ikonia
[20:45] <pjsturgeon> ikonia it is there ok
[20:45] <guntbert> !br | benilson
[20:45] <lupine_85> tyler_d1: I tend to use sqlitebrowser... but I use sqlite for a lot of things ;)
[20:45] <lintian> lupine_85, i have several harddisks, not all connected at the same time, i want to search for files on all disks at once
[20:46] <lupine_85> L3Tum: they should be set to managed by the OS if at all possible
[20:46] <ikonia> wes1: that's just dns update - that's not the forwarding to behind the router
[20:46] <L3Tum> lupine_85, PNP OS Installed=NO, Resources Controlled By=Auto...
[20:46] <wes1> ikonia; so how could it possibly update? by giving it a 192 address
[20:46] <lintian> lupine_85, so i want to make an index for them first and search that
[20:46] <lupine_85> L3Tum: might be worth setting PNP OS Installed = Yes
[20:46] <sakyamuni> Package sysv-rc-conf is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:46] <tyler_d1> lupine_85: ty I will give them a shot
[20:46] <ikonia> wes1: your router nats
[20:46] <ikonia> wes1: or masqurades
[20:46] <lupine_85> lintian: well, dunno if slocate/etc would be any good for that
[20:47] <wes1> ikonia; or perhaps you want the DNS entry to follow your *computer* around, rather than stay with your DSL/Cable connection.
[20:47] <wes1> thats a paste from that document
[20:47] <lupine_85> I'd (topically) make a tiny sqlite database and import the ls output into it
[20:47] <ikonia> wes1: same thing
[20:47] <wes1> thats what I want to do
[20:47] <guntbert> wes1: that won't work, you must give the address you router has from your ISP
[20:47] <ikonia> wes1: your just doing dns updates - that's nothing to do with forwarding
[20:47] <lintian> lupine_85, i guess so, but i'm not sure how
[20:47] <lupine_85> (assumiong the hard drive content is static?)
[20:47] <guntbert> *your router
[20:47] <pjsturgeon> ikonia: eth1, has a few packets run a few packets with no errors, but still no ping or telnet gets anywhere
[20:48] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: thats a good start
[20:48] <klavs> Hi why can`t I install awn-core-applets-bzr It says there is no such package.
[20:48] <mikeshollen> can anyone tell me why I can't find this directory?
[20:48] <mikeshollen> michael@Alienware:~/ventriloctrl-0.5$ ls /dev/input/by-id
[20:48] <mikeshollen> ls: cannot access /dev/input/by-id: No such file or directory
[20:48] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: you have eth1 - that means your card is found
[20:48] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: now you just need to give it an IP address/set it to use dhcp
[20:48] <lupine_85> lintian: me neither off the top of my head. probably via a ruby script in my case. like I said, I don't know anything that does exactly what you want OOTB
[20:48] <lupine_85> dhclient eth1
[20:48] <ikonia> pjsturgeon: where do you get IP's from - your router/modem, or are you on a corperate LAN ?
[20:48] <wes1> ikonia; the problem is, i have DSL, and teh DSL modem works as a router, so when I hook up my router, i now have two routers on the network a <IP_ADDRESS> and a <IP_ADDRESS> so its making it a pain in the rear for me to set up this server
[20:48] <L3Tum> change lupine_85 yeah changed that to Yes, still doesn't work. Now, if they are conflicting, and I use a usb mouse, They will still conflict because the mouse and net card are still assigned to the same address, only the mouse won't be used right?
[20:49] <pjsturgeon> aha! thanks guys
[20:49] <lupine_85> wes1: the public IP should be the WAN IP on the router, which isn't 192.168/16, trust me
[20:49] <pjsturgeon> sudo dhclient eth1 got it
[20:49] <lintian> lupine_85, it is static as long as i don't add or remove stuff from it yes
[20:49] <ikonia> wes1: thats just a hardware issue with your setup
[20:49] <lupine_85> then you set up NAT on the router to forward requests from the WAN IP to the server IP
[20:49] <lupine_85> all beyond the scope of this channel
[20:50] <wes1> lupine_85; what channel should I go to then
[20:50] <pHreaksYcle> lupine_85 you just put me into a coma
[20:50] <guntbert> wes1: ##networking
[20:50] <lupine_85> pHreaksYcle: I have that effect on many people
[20:50] <lupine_85> in other news, Cap'n Crunch is dead
[20:51] <ezerhoden> lupine_85: how old was he?
[20:51] <ezerhoden> the original hacker
[20:51] <lupine_85> wes1: really, you shouldn't set up any server behind NAT. it's more hassle than it's worth
[20:51] <lupine_85> grab a VM and set up your application on that instead
[20:51] <linduxed> how do i check if ive got bluetooth installed into my laptop?
[20:51] <k9> how to made bin in lxde??
[20:51] <linduxed> hardware wise
[20:52] <ikonia> k9: pardon ?
[20:52] <k9> hello
[20:52] <linduxed> i wanna check if i should even bother with drivers
[20:52] <k9> ??
[20:52] <L3Tum> lupine_85, is there a way to check which address the mouse and network card are using, and if they are overlapping, change them?
[20:52] <ikonia> k9: what are you asking ?
[20:52] <mambo6> ls
[20:52] <k9> i wanna to make bin in LXDE
[20:52] <lupine_85> L3Tum: cat /proc/interrupts might be what you want
[20:52] <ikonia> k9: what is LXDE ?
[20:52] <pop79> I can't get my Genius G-pen 450 to work as a mouse on Ubuntu.  Everytime I load up anything to update such as flash player, etc. it gives me error or when i try to remove it and reinstall it says this E rhythmbox: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[20:53] <k9> yes i'm thinking about trash sorry
[20:53]  * lupine_85 fails
[20:54] <notwist> jdmnynja: rythmbox is crap. use songbird or amarok :)
[20:54] <prince_jammys> k9: see if lxde has its own channel
[20:54] <racecar-56> lxde DOES have a channel
[20:54] <lupine_85> let's be fair, they're all a bit poor
[20:54] <racecar-56> do /join #lxde