[00:07] <Oloughlin75> how would i go about making files accessible across my network that is mostly XP?
[00:08] <jussi01> !samba
[00:08] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[00:08] <Oloughlin75> thanks
[00:08] <MrJigsaw> Oloughlin75: in stall samba then go to remote places in 'System Menu' :-)
[00:09] <MrJigsaw> If you like GUI ;)
[00:09] <Oloughlin75> alright :)
[00:10] <mrunagi> interesting..........my quick launch doesnt do the zoom effect
[00:11] <Oloughlin75> MrJigsaw: do i just add a network share?
[00:11] <MrJigsaw> No
[00:11] <MrJigsaw> isent there a menu called 'samba shares' ?
[00:11] <Oloughlin75> theres an icon
[00:11] <MrJigsaw> yes
[00:11] <MrJigsaw> press it :)
[00:12] <Oloughlin75> and its empty :)
[00:12] <MrJigsaw> try rebooting.. dno, it works here for me.
[00:12] <Oloughlin75> brb
[00:13] <MrJigsaw> Where is it a set a standard device for extension ?
[00:13] <MrJigsaw> extensions*
[00:14] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: right click a file of the type you want to configure, go to properties, click the spanner, then set the program you want at the top
[00:15] <mrunagi> !dvd
[00:15] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:15] <MrJigsaw> Thanks, jussi01 :-)
[00:15] <jussi01> MrJigsaw: :)
[00:17] <mrunagi> The source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading from DVD
[00:17] <mrunagi> what does that mean
[00:22] <mhollisjr> are there any known issues for booting kubuntu and having an ipod touch plugged in?
[00:22] <mhollisjr> my boots seem to only work sometimes when that's the case
[00:25] <icanhasadmin> describe "work"
[00:25] <mhollisjr> boot into the operating system
[00:27] <icanhasadmin> where does it fail?
[00:28] <mhollisjr> my keyboard initializes about the same time (again this doesn't always happen) so I assume right when USB is initialized
[00:28] <Marbug> !vmware
[00:28] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[00:29] <Marbug> hm
[00:29] <Marbug> o no vmware possible vor ? :s
[00:29] <mrunagi_> !dvd
[00:29] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:30] <eduardo> hello, who can tell me what is the diferent between ubunt and kubuntu ?
[00:30] <mrunagi_> gnome and kde eduardo
[00:30] <jussi01> eduardo: ubuntu has the gnome desktop, kubuntu has kde
[00:30] <eduardo> so it's only visual?
[00:31] <flipstar> it goes a little bit deeper..
[00:31] <flipstar> but in generally..yes
[00:31] <eduardo> which is better for a old computer?
[00:32] <jussi01> !xubuntu | eduardo
[00:32] <ubotu> eduardo: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[00:32] <flipstar> gnome and kde are both heavy
[00:33] <mrunagi_> anyone remember changing the alt+tab window order
[00:33] <eduardo> thanks!! I will go to #xubunt
[00:33] <mrunagi_> meaning not cycling through windows but rather changing to the last window?
[00:41] <maroo> what is the recommended way to install the latest nvidia driver on gutsy?
[00:42] <mrunagi_> !envy
[00:42] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:45] <maroo> so envy is recommended if you want to use the latest driver or manual installation?! :)
[00:45] <jussi01> NO!
[00:47] <maroo> this was no binary question :O
[00:47] <Daisuke_Ido> it most certainly was
[00:48] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't do either
[00:48] <maroo> so i do what to get the *latest* driver?
[00:48] <Daisuke_Ido> well, you CAN, but don't complain if something breaks
[00:49] <Daisuke_Ido> do you have an absolute OMGI'MGONNADIEIFIDON'THAVEIT need for the latest driver?
[00:49] <maroo> it supposes to fix all the kde4 scrolling flaws
[00:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm...
[00:50] <Daisuke_Ido> if you MUST do that, don't go with envy
[00:51] <flipstar> why dont you use restricted manager ?
[00:52] <maroo> because the restricted manager offers very very old drivers as it seems
[00:53] <maroo> which contain critical bugs for kde4 usage
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> maroo» install the directly from the nvidia website
[00:55] <maroo> ok.. will do.. as there seem to be no other option.. will the  nvidia installer generate a deb?
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> maroo» no... but I think there is a script to uninstall it
[00:56] <morslok> everytime I go to add remove program files i get a message that says the package system is in use, and I try to resolve it and it doesn't work. any ideas what to do?
[00:56] <maroo> hm.. :(
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[00:56] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:56] <morslok> wow, must be a common one
[00:56]  * maroo wonders why there is no deb with the latest drivers :(
[00:57] <flipstar> maroo: the nvidia installer is prettey good..you just need libc6-dev and kernel headers ..
[00:57] <maroo> but it feels wrong to install stuff that is not registerd with dpkg..
[00:58] <mhollisjr> does ubuntu have a personal bin directory?
[00:59] <mhollisjr> nevermind just made one myself
[01:00] <Oloughlin75> !find libvisual
[01:00] <ubotu> Found: libvisual-0.4-0, libvisual-0.4-dev, libvisual-0.4-plugins
[01:03] <morslok> thanks that worked
[01:06] <ublongata> where are the files located that add options to KDM login? like different version of KDE, Gnome sessions
[01:06] <dushara> Hi this is the first time I'm using IRC...
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> hello dushara
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> ublongata» /etc/X11/xsession
[01:07] <ublongata> i installed KDE4 and now my KDE3 logins launch KDE4 apps by default as if it's preceding other locations in the PATH
[01:08] <dushara> Hi nosrefnaekim. How exactly does one go about getting help for specific questions?
[01:08] <jussi01> !ask | dushara
[01:08] <ubotu> dushara: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:09] <tekteen> dushara: that its self was a question :-)
[01:10] <dushara> Has anybody got IIIMF working in kubuntu?
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> IIIMF is?
[01:11] <tekteen> lol
[01:11]  * tekteen does not know either
[01:12] <tekteen> I googled it
[01:12] <dushara> iiimf : input method framework for internationalisation.
[01:23] <FuriousMojo> Hi all, I just got a GeForce 7200 GS and I'm getting "Screens not found" after installing the Nvidia driver from the website
[01:24] <FuriousMojo> "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[01:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:26] <mrunagi> why cant libdvdcss2 be clear on how to install
[01:27] <mrunagi> !dvd
[01:27] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:28] <tekteen> mrunagi: I suggest medibuntu
[01:29] <mrunagi> !medibuntu
[01:29] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:29] <tekteen> !medibuntu > mrunagi
[01:29] <tekteen> !msgthebot
[01:29] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[01:29] <tekteen> !msgthebot|mrunagi
[01:29] <ubotu> mrunagi: please see above
[01:31] <FuriousMojo> Argh... I just tried installing Nvida driver through restricted driver manager and now it does not boot past running local boot scripts
[01:31] <mrunagi> tekteen: what did i do wrong
[01:31] <tekteen> what do you mean?
[01:31] <mrunagi> for you to use that trigger
[01:32] <tekteen> if the information is for you, you should msg the bot
[01:33] <mrunagi> anyone know why my quick launcher doesnt do the zoom effect on a fresh install?
[01:34] <flipstar> graphic issue maybe ?
[01:35] <mrunagi> =(
[01:35] <FuriousMojo> Can someone help me install the nvidia driver (using restircted driver manager did not work - I'm on gutsy)
[01:35] <mrunagi> it does it for the desktop icon
[01:36] <flipstar> with quick launcher you mean the kicker ?
[01:36] <mrunagi> i guess
[01:37] <mhollisjr> does anyone know of any xfire compatible instant messenger for linux
[01:37] <osiris> ok, any idea why my filesystem just went read only on me ?
[01:37] <mrunagi> it use to zoom the icon and fade
[01:37] <osiris> ext3
[01:37] <osiris> single / partition
[01:37] <flipstar> osiris: an filesystem error probably
[01:37] <flipstar> run fsck is recommend
[01:38] <osiris> if i reboot the box, it will be fine for a few hours, then randomly go read only again
[01:38] <mrunagi> anyone good with fstab entries?>
[01:38] <Rtfum-aF> adi adm Alethes
[01:38] <osiris> do i have to do that from a local login ? and if so, what is the syntax for the command i want to run
[01:38] <tekteen> mrunagi: what is the problem?
[01:38] <flipstar> osiris: you may watch /var/log/messages ..maybe its your hardware ..?
[01:39] <osiris> im not doubting the had drive may be going
[01:39] <osiris> but i would like to know how to force a filesystem check on next reboot
[01:39] <mrunagi> tekteen: you know on the quick launch when you click an icon it zooms and fades?
[01:40] <tekteen> mrunagi: nope. I thought you asked about fstab.
[01:40] <mrunagi> oooh i did lol
[01:40] <tekteen> ok
[01:40] <mrunagi> i didnt save my fsstab so i dont have the entry needed to automatically mount my ntfs drives
[01:40] <tekteen> ok
[01:41] <tekteen> mrunagi: is it a "vista partitions"
[01:42] <mrunagi> its ntfs
[01:42] <tekteen> vista or xp?
[01:42] <tekteen> they are different
[01:42] <mrunagi> its neither
[01:42] <mrunagi> just ntfs
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> what version of windows was it created with?
[01:42] <mrunagi> i dont really remember
[01:43] <mrunagi> im going to assume xp
[01:43] <tekteen> ok
[01:43] <tekteen> ok
[01:44] <pawan> any good kde distro of ubuntu
[01:44] <flipstar> there is only one
[01:44] <mrunagi> what the heck is kde distro of ubuntu other than kubuntu
[01:44] <osiris> flipstar, so no idea on how to force the filesystem check ?
[01:45] <LukeLC> kubuntu comes with only KDE, kubuntu is THE kde distro of ubuntu :P
[01:45] <flipstar> no at least not automaticly..
[01:45] <tekteen> mrunagi: add something like this to /etc/fstab ------------> /dev/something  /media/ntfs-partition  ntfs  defaults  0 0
[01:45] <mrunagi> k
[01:45] <flipstar> osiris: i would login to rescue mode and run fsck manually ..
[01:46] <tekteen> mrunagi: then type sudo mount -a in a konsole
[01:46] <osiris> mrunagi, http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/02/msg01030.html
[01:47] <mhollisjr> what package is glib in? I'm trying to compile something and it's complaining about glib not being there
[01:48] <flipstar>  libglib1.2-dev maybe
[01:49] <mhollisjr> substitued for 2.0 and yeah that wasn't there I'm trying it now
[01:49] <mhollisjr> yep that did it thank you
[01:50] <mrunagi> its not mounting =(
[01:50] <LukeLC> imo ubuntu should come with kde by default:P and there should be a gubuntu!
[01:50] <flipstar> i agree
[01:51] <regeya> well...that's your opinion :-> and you're not alone, but there are a lot of people who like gnome.  remember there are also people who actually like windows
[01:51] <mrunagi> i have to manually mount it =(
[01:51] <flipstar> LukeLC: lets make a petition or somethin ^^
[01:51]  * regeya sees kubuntu as 'the real ubuntu'
[01:51] <tekteen> mrunagi: why?
[01:51] <maroo> regeya: for those people there will be gubuntu :)
[01:51] <mrunagi> because it doesnt mount when i plug it in
[01:51]  * tekteen agrees
[01:51] <tekteen> mrunagi: oh
[01:52] <mrunagi> how do i get the drives uid
[01:52] <regeya> hehehehehehe
[01:52] <tekteen> mrunagi: kde has a manager
[01:52] <flipstar> mrunagi: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -al
[01:53] <mrunagi> says not a directory
[01:53] <tekteen> blkuid
[01:54] <mrunagi> ?
[01:54] <tekteen> mrunagi: the command is blkuid
[01:54] <tekteen> no
[01:54] <tekteen> blkid
[01:55] <mrunagi> rt
[01:55] <mrunagi> ty
[01:55] <tekteen> rt?
[01:55] <tekteen> what does that mean
[01:55] <flipstar> typo
[01:55] <jussi01> !uuid
[01:55] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[01:56] <kiefer> Hey is anyone familiar with .rmvb files?
[01:56] <mrunagi> brb
[01:58] <mrunagi> still doesnt mount
[01:58] <mrunagi> UUID=5AD8009AD8007693 /media/External ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[01:58] <flipstar> whats the message ?
[01:59] <mrunagi> there is no message, i can do it manually
[01:59] <mrunagi> it just doesnt mount
[01:59] <mrunagi> automatically
[02:00] <flipstar> oh right the gui's are not very communicative
[02:00] <mrunagi> ?
[02:01] <mrunagi> i do however get  Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/kde-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. Error: "/tmp/ksocket-mrunagi" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[02:01] <mrunagi> but its unrelated
[02:01] <mrunagi> my pcm is always turned down by default too
[02:02] <mrunagi> so are my mics
[02:04] <mrunagi> i killed the channel =/
[02:04] <kiefer> Murderer.
[02:05] <mrunagi> i didnt mean to
[02:05] <flipstar> damn wine is compiling since 30minutes or so :/
[02:05] <will00> ey i have an issue with my kubuntu install, after i restart i get a grub error 15
[02:05] <kiefer> Wine took like 20 Mins to compile for me flip.
[02:05]  * kiefer will brb.
[02:06] <will00> k
[02:06] <flipstar> aight my machine is kind of antique
[02:06] <flipstar> will00: you installed grub by yourself ?
[02:06] <will00> no i used the installer off the livecd
[02:09] <mrunagi> my help has abandoned me =)
[02:10] <mrunagi> i never could easily figure out this ntfs-3g stuff
[02:11] <flipstar> will00: and after the installation you didnt changed any? like hard drive configuration or something..
[02:11] <flipstar> mrunagi: without an error message i dont know where to start ..
[02:11] <mrunagi> how do i find an error message
[02:12] <flipstar> you can try to mount it manually
[02:12] <mrunagi> i have and can
[02:12] <flipstar> ..so whats the problem ..?
[02:13] <mrunagi> i want it to automatically mount
[02:13] <flipstar> just add it to fstab then ..
[02:13] <mrunagi> i did
[02:13] <mrunagi> it doesnt mount
[02:13] <flipstar> what does it say ?
[02:13] <mrunagi> .....
[02:13] <flipstar> in konsole just typ mount -a
[02:13] <flipstar> as root, using sudo
[02:14] <mrunagi> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/External: Input/output error
[02:14] <flipstar> you checked the device and mountpoint ?
[02:15] <mrunagi> meaning
[02:15] <flipstar> are you sure you specified the hard drive correct ? and the mount point
[02:16] <sd32> is it worth going to kde 3.5.9?
[02:16] <mrunagi> i did it by uid
[02:17] <flipstar> does it work with ntfs instead of ntfs-3g in fstab ?
[02:19] <mrunagi> we are getting closer
[02:19] <mrunagi> now i get
[02:19] <will00> srry bout the delay
[02:19] <will00> yea i set everything right
[02:19] <mrunagi> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[02:20] <will00> iv gotten it to work before, but i did a rebuild to add some thermal paste and it didnt work right after that, same jumpers, same everything
[02:21] <Oloughlin75> mrunagi: sudo whatever your trying to do
[02:21] <flipstar> mounting with fstab
[02:21] <Oloughlin75> sudo mount /blah/ /to/blah or w/e
[02:21] <mrunagi> i got it
[02:21] <mrunagi> uncheck mount as user
[02:21] <flipstar> and ntfs
[02:21] <mrunagi> im a happier camper
[02:21] <mrunagi> now if i can just get that zoom efect on the quicklauncher ill be happier still
[02:22] <mrunagi> =)
[02:22] <Oloughlin75> mrunagi: kde4?
[02:22] <mrunagi> no
[02:22] <Oloughlin75> compiz?
[02:22] <mrunagi> no
[02:22] <mrunagi> er well
[02:22] <mrunagi> it is installed but not running
[02:22] <Oloughlin75> how can you add effects to it?
[02:23] <mrunagi> didnt say you could
[02:23] <mrunagi> but before i reinstalled when i clicked on icons on the quick launcher it would zoom and fade........just like the show desktop icon
[02:23] <mrunagi> and how it does it in dolphin
[02:24] <eduardo_> hi...a thing happend, i install kubuntu in my acer notebook, but when open konsole and write "sudo apt-get install ' example firefox'" the system said - the pakage isnt be
[02:24] <eduardo_> what can i do
[02:24] <mrunagi> enable universe and multivers
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> i have returned to kde
[02:25] <Oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: you left it?
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Oloughlin75: i haven't used kde in months
[02:25] <mrunagi> returned from where
[02:25] <eduardo_> plz heelp
[02:25] <DarkShinigami> How do I play DVDs? I have a DVD in the drive and it will tell me that it cannot be read.
[02:26] <Oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: what were you useing?
[02:26] <Oloughlin75> !dvd | DarkShinigami
[02:26] <ubotu> DarkShinigami: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:26] <MrUnagi> !dvd | DarkShinigami
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> gnome
[02:26] <Oloughlin75> i win =)
[02:26] <MrUnagi> ew why Daisuke_Ido
[02:26] <Oloughlin75> i liked fluxbox a lot but im too lazy to set it all up
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: because desktop environment is a personal choice and i happen to like gnome.  is that good enough?
[02:27] <MrUnagi> um ok calm down killer
[02:27] <Oloughlin75> !find fluxbox
[02:27] <ubotu> Found: fluxbox
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, i would have been mean :)
[02:27] <MrUnagi> gnome isnt functional or even nice looking
[02:28] <Oloughlin75> gnome is very functional
[02:28] <MrUnagi> not compared to kde
[02:28] <MrUnagi> one of my major gripes with it is you couldnt sort by anything but name
[02:28] <MrUnagi> .................why?
[02:28] <MrUnagi> on the desktop that is
[02:28] <flipstar> MrUnagi: you'll adapt it if you run it for a longer time
[02:28] <Oloughlin75> who uses icons on their desktop?!
[02:28] <MrUnagi> its all i ran
[02:29] <flipstar> i do
[02:29] <MrUnagi> i started on ubuntu, resisted kde for a LONG time
[02:29] <MrUnagi> because the default config is ugly =)
[02:29] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: i agree!
[02:29] <Oloughlin75> it is in every kde distro... all are fat gray bars
[02:29] <MrUnagi> but i move the bar to the top and make it about 30 pixels and im good
[02:29] <MrUnagi> it was the zoom icon effect thing that i liked
[02:29] <MrUnagi> but i seemed to have lost that
[02:30] <MrUnagi> at least on the quick launcher and that makes me sad
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  you made it more gnomelike
[02:30] <sd32> i dont like how you cant resize ythe taskbar in kde 4
[02:30] <MrUnagi> um i guess
[02:30] <Alethes> heh, my kde is very gnome-like
[02:30] <Oloughlin75> sd32: you can in its config file
[02:30] <MrUnagi> you could also say its more osxish
[02:30] <sd32> ohh
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: not exactly, since kde has a desktop menu bar that mimics OSX :)
[02:31] <Oloughlin75> sd32: i forget exactly what it is buts its something like ~/.plasma/ or /.kde
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> which i played with
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> for five minutes
[02:31] <MrUnagi> so does gnome
[02:31] <sd32> Oloughlin75: how do you get to that? right clicking dosent work
[02:31] <MrUnagi> we arent talking about that dock
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> and then i opened firefox and realized it wasn't even a remotely smart menubar
[02:31] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its a text file
[02:32] <sd32> Oloughlin75: ohh
[02:32] <DarkShinigami> Oloughlin75: Thanks. That did it. I had to run the install-css.sh file
[02:32] <Oloughlin75> :)
[02:32] <sd32> cause 3.5.* is just a right click.. easy
[02:33] <Oloughlin75> sd32: kde4 isnt complete yet
[02:33] <Oloughlin75> sd32: GUI config will come in time, and the taskbar really isnt necessary
[02:33] <MrUnagi> i dont get it man
[02:33] <MrUnagi> the zoom thingy doesnt do it on the live cd either
[02:34] <sd32> Oloughlin75: they shouldnt have released it in my opinion..till it was done
[02:34] <MrUnagi> maybe its a kubuntu-desktop thing
[02:34] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: did you enable mouseover effects?
[02:34] <MrUnagi> where do u do that
[02:34] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its functional enough, and its stable enough
[02:34] <sd32> true
[02:34] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: configure panel -> appearence
[02:35] <MrUnagi> it says its enabled
[02:35] <sd32> Oloughlin75: we agree to dissagree :-)
[02:35] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its more meant to mess around in, see whats coming
[02:35] <sd32> Oloughlin75: then it should still be in beta
[02:36] <Oloughlin75> it isnt buggy
[02:36] <MrUnagi> does anyone know what im talking about when i say the zoom fade thingy with the quicklauncher
[02:36] <sd32> its not buggy, just not complete
[02:36] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: ive only seen something like that in KDE4... compiz may have something like it though
[02:37] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its complete enough to be used
[02:37] <MrUnagi> it wasnt compiz
[02:37] <Oloughlin75> beryl?
[02:37] <sd32> lol. ok ok
[02:37] <MrUnagi> it wasnt anything like that it would do it even when i had compositing turned off
[02:37] <Oloughlin75> sd32: you just want it to be easier ;)
[02:37] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: i have no idea
[02:38] <MrUnagi> Oloughlin75: ok you know when you click on an icon in dolphin how it zooms and fades as it loads?
[02:38] <sd32> Oloughlin75: yeah.. ya got me..lol dont we all..;-)
[02:38] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: umm, no, lol
[02:38] <MrUnagi> .....
[02:38] <MrUnagi> does it only do it for me?
[02:39] <Oloughlin75> mine brightens when i have mouse over, but it doesnt zoom when i click
[02:39] <MrUnagi> what does it do
[02:39] <sd32> Oloughlin75: why dont you want it to be easier?
[02:39] <Oloughlin75> nothing, goes to whatever i clicked on
[02:39] <Oloughlin75> sd32: im not using it, am i? :)
[02:40] <MrUnagi> i swear to god tihs computer randomly removes programs
[02:40] <sd32> Oloughlin75: didn't know :-/
[02:40] <Oloughlin75> lol
[02:40] <Roey> hi
[02:40] <MrUnagi> do icons not zoom for anyone when you click them>
[02:40] <Oloughlin75> sd32: taskbar really isnt needed if they added a keep widgets on top of other windows
[02:40] <flipstar> MrUnagi: of corse they do
[02:41] <Roey> Gnash folks says their software shows Youtube fine; will this work into Hardy Heron?"
[02:41] <Roey> thanks
[02:41] <Oloughlin75> sd32: the widgets are nice because you can arrange your desktop however you want
[02:41] <MrUnagi> flipstar: does that not happen for you when you click them on your quicklauncher?
[02:41] <pushax> can someone tell me the default place the Maildir is?
[02:41] <sd32> Oloughlin75: plus that scroling k menu  is horrible
[02:41] <flipstar> MrUnagi: no
[02:41] <Oloughlin75> Roey: last time i use gnash it was hit or miss if its show video
[02:41] <Roey> right
[02:41] <Roey> when was that?  THe Gnash folks are sort of adamant that it works
[02:41] <Oloughlin75> it should work in hardy though
[02:41] <Roey> hrm
[02:41] <Roey> ok
[02:42] <Oloughlin75> as well as it does in gusty :)
[02:42] <Roey> :(
[02:42] <MrUnagi> what was that command to see uid again?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[02:42] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:42] <Oloughlin75> sd32: i just wish it didnt sae were you last opened it -- i dont often open the same thing many times
[02:43] <Oloughlin75> sd32: its annoying to go back several levels to get to a different application type
[02:43] <flipstar> ..talking about kde4..?
[02:43] <Oloughlin75> flipstar: yep
[02:43] <Roey> Oloughlin75:  <bjacques> it's planned to be released next week
[02:44] <Roey> Oloughlin75:  (this is a #gnash dev)
[02:44] <Oloughlin75> Roey: what?
[02:44] <Roey> says that they're releasing their youtube-ready version next week
[02:44] <sd32> Oloughlin75: im talking about the click scrolling aspect  of it and having to click to go backwards
[02:44] <Oloughlin75> Roey: lol -- hit or miss like i said ;)
[02:44] <Roey> :)
[02:44] <Roey> alright
[02:44] <Roey> here'sa weird problem
[02:45] <kenneth> hello all
[02:45] <Oloughlin75> sd32: you want it to scroll down when the mouse is near the bottom?
[02:45] <Roey> does this axismapping look OK to you:  http://rafb.net/p/P9Xx5J93.html
[02:45] <kenneth> can someone tell me where to find emc channel ?
[02:45] <Roey> Oloughlin75:  My scrollwheel scrolls vertically instead of horizontally and I can't seem to change it
[02:46] <Oloughlin75> Roey: i cant exactly help you, sorry
[02:46] <Oloughlin75> <-- is still new
[02:46] <Roey> ahh :)
[02:46] <Roey> ok
[02:47] <sd32> Oloughlin75: no, when you have to click several  times to get to a program then when you want to get back to the main k menu you have to click on the edge of the panel to go back to the main panel
[02:47] <MrUnagi> when is hddvd going to die =(
[02:47] <Oloughlin75> sd32: thats what i was complaining about lol
[02:48] <Roey> I thought blu-ray is bad because it's yet-another-sony de-facto standard
[02:48] <sd32> then were on the same page..lol
[02:48] <flipstar> blueray is technically better
[02:48] <Roey> sure
[02:48] <Dr_willis> I consider blue ray bad. because its the movie companies wanting me to yet rebuy AGAIn all my movies.. :)
[02:48] <Oloughlin75> flipstar: more DRM and more expensive, also
[02:48] <Roey> but so was betamax
[02:48] <Roey> drm is why I stayed away from DVD drives too
[02:48] <MrUnagi> Dr_willis: and hddvd is good because....
[02:48] <Roey> and I stilldon't have one
[02:49] <MrUnagi> Roey: i dont consider the jump from vhs to dvd to be the same as dvd to bluray
[02:49] <Roey> so the only way to really get HD content off of these bluray players is to connect them to an HDCP-capable TV?
[02:49] <Roey> MrUnagi:  due to the drm, yes?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> MrUnagi,  i dident say it was good.
[02:50] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: it only matters to me on a huge huge tv... dvds look fine on a 50 inch to me
[02:50] <Dr_willis> I consider the whole blueray/hd stuff just the companies wanting more $$$ from the public.
[02:50] <Roey> hey Dr_willis  :)
[02:50] <MrUnagi> Oloughlin75: you and my mom would get along
[02:50] <Roey> lol
[02:50] <MrUnagi> Dr_willis: are you saying you dont see a big difference?
[02:50] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: :/
[02:50] <Dr_willis> I dont plan on buying any for a very long time
[02:50] <Dr_willis> MrUnagi,  I dont. :) but then again im not a big movie addict.
[02:50] <MrUnagi> <---------computer animator
[02:50] <MrUnagi> i guess it comes with the tradew
[02:51] <flipstar> Dr_willis: me too but its step forwards :)
[02:51] <Dr_willis> MrUnagi,  and i find it hard to justify HD for my anime. :)
[02:51] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: enjoy the movie, and stop searching for errors :)
[02:51] <MrUnagi>  Dr_willis anime would look awesome in HD
[02:51] <flipstar> about 10x more data to save on blueray instead of dvd
[02:51] <MrUnagi> Oloughlin75: yo uhave NO idea =)
[02:51] <Dr_willis> MrUnagi,  IF it was actually using the better res. :)  My Bugs Bunny Cartoons are not.
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Then again. i donthave a HD/Big Tv any more.
[02:51] <Roey> what does it matter when in a couple of years 32gb SD cards will be standard :P
[02:52] <MrUnagi> Roey: i cant wait
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> -years +months
[02:52] <Roey> MrUnagi:  you mean for those cheap SD cards that everyone seems to have missed the point about?
[02:52] <Roey> MrUnagi:  I wonder why the Industry hasn't shifted to selling software on SD cards.
[02:52] <Dr_willis> Most of my portable gizmos cant handle the 4gb sd cards. :(
[02:52] <flipstar> ssd hard drives will come first i guess
[02:53] <Oloughlin75> Roey: because its way to easy to redistribute
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Oloughlin75: and a CD isn't?
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> flipstar- SSD hard drives are already available
[02:53] <Roey> Oloughlin75:  you can incorporate drm very easily into a chip onboard the sd card...
[02:53] <MrUnagi> Dragnslcr: they just now started
[02:53] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: I've been wanting to do some computer animation for some time. What are you using in Kubuntu to do so?
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> Roey: and that's also why it's a bad idea
[02:53] <Roey> MrUnagi:  what started
[02:53] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: yeah, over a year ago
[02:53] <Roey> Daisuke_Ido:  from whose point of view, users or distributors
[02:53] <flipstar> yes Dragonatha but not for the masses..
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Roey: users
[02:54] <MrUnagi> DarkShinigami: maya is my tool of trade
[02:54] <Roey> Daisuke_Ido:  you think bluray is any better?
[02:54] <MrUnagi> er
[02:54] <MrUnagi> tool of preference
[02:54] <DarkShinigami> :)
[02:54] <Roey> Daisuke_Ido:  at least its' not yet-another-new-technology
[02:54] <Roey> requiring big expensive lasers
[02:54] <Roey> and a $500 reader.
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Roey: i don't get into the format war discussions.  dvd works for me, and i couldn't possibly care less
[02:54] <Roey> k.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> I would be overjoyed if the DVD-Dual Layer disks got afforable.
[02:54] <MrUnagi> you people that arent impressed by high def are just like when they came out with color tv
[02:55] <Dr_willis> and afforeable is NOT 10x the cost of a normal blank dvd. :)
[02:55] <Dr_willis> actually they are down to like 5x now i think.
[02:55] <flipstar> you cant even compare HD to dvd ..the quality is just amazing!
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: no, we're reasonable and don't blow a load over every new gadget.  i have a 37" hdtv that dvds look GREAT on, i see no reason to repurchase my entire library of dvds (500+) on another format
[02:55] <MrUnagi> thank u flipstar
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> the quality is in your head
[02:56] <Roey> http://boardreader.com/t/Hardware_Forum_196613/Flash_Drive_to_replace_Blu_Ray_and_HD_DV_30007.html
[02:56] <MrUnagi> um
[02:56] <MrUnagi> youre nuts
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> no, i'm sane, YOU'RE nuts.
[02:56] <MrUnagi> Daisuke_Ido: are you on a laptop?
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> no.
[02:56] <MrUnagi> lcd monitor?
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[02:56] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: Is Maya compatible with Kubuntu? Is it in the repos?
[02:56] <MrUnagi> whats the resolution
[02:56] <flipstar> Daisuke_Ido: on a 15"tft yes..maybe
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> 1280x1024
[02:56] <MrUnagi> DarkShinigami: its 6 grand and not free
[02:56] <flipstar> but when it comes to a bigger screen you see the difference
[02:56] <MrUnagi> Daisuke_Ido: do you run your resolution at 800 x 600
[02:56] <Daisuke_Ido> MrUnagi: upscaling.
[02:57] <MrUnagi> why not........theres no difference in the quality
[02:57] <MrUnagi> run it at 800 x 600, save the life of the monitor
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, but there is, and what you're suggesting is substantially different
[02:57] <MrUnagi> it is no different
[02:57]  * DarkShinigami goes off to rob a bank for 6 grand... plus tax...
[02:57] <MrUnagi> dvd-roms have upscaled for years
[02:57] <MrUnagi> there are obvious artifacts
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> running at a non-native resolution != scaling to the proper resolution
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> really?
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't see them
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> again, this is a CHOICE, don't push yours on me, i don't care.
[02:58] <Oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: you not LOOKING for them
[02:58] <MrUnagi> Daisuke_ido.................running a dvd full screen on anything above 640 x 480 IS the same thing
[02:58] <MrUnagi> as non-native
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> Oloughlin75: oh, of course!  i actually want to watch my movies rather than pick apart every little detail that may or may not be all in my head!
[02:58] <MrUnagi> assume that im looking for them
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i assume you have too much time on your hands
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido>  /EOD
[02:59] <MrUnagi> doesnt change the fact that dvd players can process all they want to, it doesnt match HD
[03:00] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: Is Maya compatible with Kubuntu?
[03:00]  * MrUnagi wonders how many people that 'dont see the difference' download the higher resolution video
[03:00] <Daisuke_Ido> so.  now that the argument is over, anyone have any problems actually related to the channel?
[03:00] <MrUnagi> DarkShinigami: technically
[03:00] <MrUnagi> no
[03:00] <DarkShinigami> WINE?
[03:00] <MrUnagi> no
[03:00] <MrUnagi> NO!~
[03:00] <flipstar> Daisuke_Ido: its a whole different level of pleasure to be able to see this details
[03:00] <MrUnagi> do NOT run 3d software with wine
[03:00] <DarkShinigami> ok
[03:00] <MrUnagi> search ubuntuforums.org
[03:01] <MrUnagi> howto install maya
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm sorry, i don't see how it's that great.  now, discussion OVER.
[03:01] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: have you used blender?
[03:01] <MrUnagi> its an involved process, linux native maya is in rpm
[03:01] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want to keep talking about it, go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:01] <MrUnagi> Oloughlin75: cant stand it
[03:01] <MrUnagi> Daisuke_Ido: must have the last word
[03:01] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: its bad?
[03:01] <MrUnagi> i wouldnt say that, but i cant stand the camera
[03:01] <MrUnagi> i dunno if it can be changed or not, but at my present lifestyle i dont have time to learn it
[03:02] <MrUnagi> the camera stays in orthographic no matter how you move it
[03:02] <Oloughlin75> lol
[03:03] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: im tempted to try it out.. the only modeling iv done has been in autocad
[03:03] <MrUnagi> thats cool
[03:03] <MrUnagi> im not really a modeller
[03:03] <MrUnagi> more of an animator/compositor/effects
[03:03] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: just push around the models?
[03:03] <Oloughlin75> :)
[03:03] <MrUnagi> yeeeea exactly what i do =)
[03:03] <MrUnagi> www.animatedanimator.com
[03:03] <Daisuke_Ido> !ot
[03:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:04] <MrUnagi> !whiner
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whiner - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> !attitude
[03:04] <Oloughlin75> Daisuke_Ido: the channels been OT for more than an hour
[03:04] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> doesn'tmean they SHOULD be
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Oloughlin75: it shouldn't be, so take it to -offtopic
[03:04] <Oloughlin75> We all should go :)
[03:04] <MrUnagi> yea!
[03:04] <flipstar> okay i will start
[03:05] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: What do you suggest for frame-by-frame animation? I have many of my old drawings that I want to turn into animation. I don't have the equipment that I had back in school.
[03:06] <MrUnagi> flash......
[03:06] <MrUnagi> might run ok in wine
[03:06] <DarkShinigami> MrUnagi: I have scanned my multiple images and am ready to put them into frame animation.
[03:06] <thechris> amited gifs?  or mjpeg?
[03:07] <thechris> (or mpeg without P/B frames)
[03:07] <DarkShinigami> thechris: gif, avi... final format doesn't really matter much to me.
[03:07]  * Daisuke_Ido looks
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> this still isn't the offtopic channel...
[03:08] <DarkShinigami> I want to know of an app which runs in Kubuntu that can help with creating the animation for the images I have.
[03:08] <DarkShinigami> The images are jpg and I want to convert to animation.
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> DarkShinigami» Gimp
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> turn them into a GIF
[03:08] <DarkShinigami> nosrednaekim: Gimp does animation?
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> I think so.
[03:09] <thechris> oh, why is it that when i tab complete /med[tab], i get /media/cdrom0, even though I have a /media/box dir
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> thechris» it doesn'tjust end at media?
[03:09] <thechris> nope
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> wierd.
[03:09] <thechris> i have to backspace and type in the b[tab]
[03:09] <stdin> thechris: because you typed "mount" first
[03:10] <thechris> oh, so its taking that from fstab?
[03:10] <stdin> yep
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> zsh?
[03:10] <thechris> ok, that makes sense.
[03:10] <thechris> its kubuntu default
[03:10] <stdin> nosrednaekim: bash_completion
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> wow... how do you turn that on?
[03:10] <stdin> it should be by default
[03:11] <stdin> as long as you have bash-completion installed
[03:12] <stdin> or just add "if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then . /etc/bash_completion; fi" to your ~/.bashrc
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:20] <regeya_> whee
[03:20] <Oloughlin75> woo
[03:20] <regeya> yay
[03:21] <MrUnagi> offtopic!!!
[03:21] <regeya> ...
[03:21] <MrUnagi> just wait........daisy duke will yell at you
[03:22] <MrUnagi> :D
[03:22] <regeya> daisy...oh, heh.
[03:22] <regeya> Daisuke I assume
[03:22] <stdin> no, it's me who will "tell you off"
[03:22] <regeya> how bout that KDE4!!!
[03:23]  * regeya saves himself...
[03:23] <MrUnagi> its incompelte!
[03:23] <MrUnagi> incomplete even
[03:23] <regeya> yes, we seem to be killing the thread of conversation...
[03:23] <regeya> such as it is
[03:23] <Oloughlin75> regeya: KDE4 is nice :)
[03:23] <bioss> hello
[03:23] <MrUnagi> i think that when i run kde4 and i have an app crash it shatters to pieces its going to scare the crap out of me
[03:23] <regeya> the second something relevant comes up, rest assured I will shut up (unless I have something insightful to interject)
[03:24] <Oloughlin75> MrUnagi: explosions!
[03:24] <regeya> mmm...desktops with pyro
[03:24] <stdin> how about this, KDE4 support in #kubuntu-kde4, Kubuntu support in here, anything else in #kubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else that's not here
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> hey biossdid you get your sound fixed?
[03:25] <bioss> no sound on internal speakears on a hp dv6000 but the sound is coming out on headphone
[03:25] <bioss> no
[03:25] <MrUnagi> i have a dv6000t
[03:25] <MrUnagi> anyone know why pcm is off by default?
[03:25] <MrUnagi> how do i change that
[03:25] <Oloughlin75> whats pcm?
[03:25] <MrUnagi> audio
[03:25] <MrUnagi> !pcm
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <Oloughlin75> what card?
[03:26] <MrUnagi> interesting
[03:26] <MrUnagi> hrm
[03:26] <regeya> Oloughlin75: roughly, sound, unless you're interested to know that that's Pulse Code Modulation
[03:26] <sd32> are there any kde 4 downgrade coupons..lol
[03:26] <bioss> i tried the web from <teekteen> but didnt work
[03:26] <Oloughlin75> regeya: what card are you trying to set up?
[03:26] <Oloughlin75> regeya: in hd audio?
[03:26] <Oloughlin75> intel*
[03:26] <MrUnagi> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[03:27] <bioss> hd intel
[03:27] <Oloughlin75> !hdaudio
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <regeya> Oloughlin75: I'm not, but I thought I'd interject...cripes, I just can't make anyone happy. :<
[03:27] <bioss> yes
[03:27] <Oloughlin75> uhh whats the tag
[03:27] <Oloughlin75> !hda
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <stdin> !intelhda
[03:27] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[03:27] <bioss> yes
[03:27] <Oloughlin75> that!
[03:27] <stdin> !msgthebot > Oloughlin75  /msg the bot when you don't know
[03:28] <Oloughlin75> didnt know you -could- message the bot
[03:28] <MrUnagi> now you know
[03:28] <MrUnagi> what exactly is pcm
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> MrUnagi»itd kinda like a "master" channel usually
[03:28] <regeya> and if you want the bot to tell someone in particular, you do it like this:  !intelhda | Oloughlin75
[03:29] <Oloughlin75> i know regeya :)
[03:29] <MrUnagi> any idea why it is turned down by defualt for me nosrednaekim
[03:29] <regeya> oh sorry
[03:29] <bioss> already tried all of the page
[03:29]  * regeya apparently continues the trend of alienating everyone in the channel
[03:29] <Oloughlin75> :)
[03:31] <bioss> any good tutorials for ruby
[03:32] <regeya> careful--that's not kde-specific
[03:33] <MrUnagi> is that off topic?
[03:33] <MrUnagi> !offtopic
[03:33] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:33] <MrUnagi> better trigger it just in case
[03:33] <stdin> ruby? yes it is offtopic
[03:33] <regeya> but bioss, yes, take a look at ruby-lang.org.  and avoid getting the pragmatic programmers book.
[03:34] <Oloughlin75> the learn how to program poorly books, regeya?
[03:35] <regeya> stdin: if someone were to ask how to set up rails by installing the packages from the repos, would that be on-topic or is this channel very specifically only about kde packages from the default install or just kde...is there a set of official guidelines?  see, I would think that IntelHDA would be offtopic since that's a kernel issue, and could be resolved in #ubuntu, but I could be totally wrong.
[03:36] <regeya> Oloughlin75: indeed.  btw, there are qt and kde bindings for ruby, and I'm told they're quite fun to work with.
[03:36] <Dragnslcr> regeya- sound issues could also be settings in KMix
[03:36] <oneeyedelf1> anyone here use 64bit kubuntu with a 8600gt, I can't get the accelerated drivers to work
[03:36] <stdin> regeya: read the topic, Kubuntu support includes installing packages in Kubuntu, but not learning a scripting language
[03:37] <regeya> stdin: ah, but scripting language education could be a setup issue as well...granted, ruby's a stretch, but...you're right, of course. :-)
[03:37]  * regeya goes off to read the faq and will now stfu
[03:37] <stdin> also, do not use acronyms like stfu, at all
[03:38] <stdin> !guidelines | you should read this
[03:38] <ubotu> you should read this: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:38] <regeya> ...
[03:39]  * regeya raises his right hand and solemnly swears to not diss himself again in this channel...y'know, screw this, this is getting way too close to #debian, though the lack of kickban is nice...good NIGHT.
[03:39] <regeya> knowing full well I am a volunteer, I bid you a good day, night, or whateer it is in your area.  cheers.
[03:39] <Oloughlin75> have a nice night regeya
[03:40] <ross> does anyone know of a panel that spans two monitors in kde4?
[03:41]  * stdin points ross to #kubuntu-kde4 and #kde for KDE4 questions
[03:41] <ross> stdin: thank you
[03:41] <bioss> how do i verified that my modem is enable?
[03:42] <stdin> !dialup
[03:42] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[03:42] <bioss> thanks
[03:45] <gangadjinn> anybody like to help me abit with a diskproblem?? Seem to be unable to mount my disks... and it annoys me...
[03:46] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: whats the error?
[03:47] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: right click the drive, and uncheck mount as user
[03:48] <gangadjinn> Mount is denied because NTFS seem to be in use...
[03:48] <Oloughlin75> :/ nvm
[03:52] <Oloughlin75> does amarok support album art for ipods?
[03:53] <gangadjinn> where can I get eyecandy for kde4??
[03:55] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: under system settings -> appearence?
[03:57] <sd32> gangadjinn: www.kde-look.org
[04:00] <gangadjinn> was thinking if there where any other sites...
[04:00] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: you mean artwork?
[04:00] <Oloughlin75> www.art4linux.org is alright
[04:00] <Oloughlin75> but if you want backgrounds and such, www.deviantart.com is by far the best
[04:01] <Oloughlin75> doesnt have themes and stuff though
[04:01] <gangadjinn> just looking for something to make my screen less ehm... blue... and maybe some widgets........ testing the KDE4
[04:01] <Oloughlin75> gangadjinn: it comes with some pretty good background IMO
[04:02] <bioss> how do i turn on my modem it seems that if i dont turn on the modem the integrated speakears of the dv600 are working i dont know if it is install since i just installed kubuntu
[04:02] <gangadjinn> yupp... not bad... but just looking whats there already,,, just to have a peek really:D
[04:03] <bioss> dv6000
[04:03] <Oloughlin75> !dialup
[04:03] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[04:04] <Dragnslcr> Sound and modem not working at the same time makes me think of IRQ conflicts
[04:04] <Dragnslcr> But I don't think those have actually existed for about 10 years
[04:04] <Oloughlin75> lol
[04:05] <bioss> no that i have broadband but if i dont turn on the modem sound dosnt come out of the integrated speakears of the laptop
[04:05] <bioss> thats whats there telling me
[04:05] <Oloughlin75> bioss: what sound card?
[04:06] <bioss> hda intel and it also says conexant on the audio tab
[04:06] <bioss> i have sound on the headphones
[04:07] <Dragnslcr> If the headphones work but the speakers don't, I'd guess that you have a channel muted in KMix or alsamixer
[04:07] <bioss> already check everithing is ok there
[04:09] <julio_Vzla> hola disculpen
[04:09] <bioss> hola julio
[04:09] <julio_Vzla> cual es el link para entrar al servidor en español
[04:09] <julio_Vzla> ?
[04:09] <Oloughlin75> !intelhdaudio | bioss
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intelhdaudio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <gangadjinn> and quick queation... is there anyy frontend for mounting images these days... Or do we have to stay to writing??
[04:10] <bioss> yes
[04:10] <julio_Vzla> bioss necesito la ayuda de alguien q maneje muy bn esta plataforma
[04:12] <bioss> no se mucho pero dime
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> descargue el limewire para esta plataforma
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> pero lo tengo en un archivo zip
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> y a lo q lo abro solo me salen unas carpetas
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> y no lo ejecuta
[04:13] <julio_Vzla> ni me aparecen un icono para utilizarlo
[04:14] <bioss> busca el adep package manager i busca zip y ya o usa ark
[04:14] <bioss> cual esta en utilities
[04:16] <julio_Vzla> ark
[04:16] <julio_Vzla> pero lo abro con eso y solo me abre las carpetas pero no lo ejecuta
[04:17] <hydrogen> !es | julio_Vzla
[04:17] <ubotu> julio_Vzla: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:17] <julio_Vzla> lo q sucede es q nunca habia trabajado con este sistema operativo
[04:18] <neul> hi yall
[04:19] <bioss> que quieres ejecutar ? si es exe no podras exepto en wine
[04:19] <mjponce> no hay mucha gente que participe en kubuntu-es
[04:20] <mjponce> por eso es que entran a este foro ubotu
[04:20] <Oloughlin75> mjponce: nadie habla español aquí, por favor, vaya al soportivo del #kubuntu-es
[04:20] <mjponce> i know about that rule.
[04:21] <neul> may I ask, what is the media player I can use for wmv files
[04:22] <bioss> codecs
[04:23] <neul> it's called "kvc" or something like that
[04:23] <bioss> there kaffaine works fine and mplayer
[04:23] <sd32> neul: vlc is good  to
[04:23] <mjponce> mi name is "nadie" Oloughlin
[04:23] <neul> vlc
[04:24] <mjponce> my name is "nadie" Oloughlin
[04:24] <neul> thanx sd32
[04:24] <Oloughlin75> neul: youll need w32codecs from !medibuntu to play wma in any player
[04:24] <sd32> neul: yw
[04:25] <bioss> theres the ticket!! codecs
[04:25] <bioss> search for automatix2 is really cool
[04:25] <neul> sd32 if u r a girl, you get a kiss, thanx
[04:26] <sd32> neul: male...thanks anyway
[04:26] <sd32> :-)
[04:27] <Oloughlin75> NO AUTOMATIX
[04:27] <neul> np
[04:27] <Oloughlin75> !automatix | bioss
[04:27] <ubotu> bioss: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[04:28] <mjponce> XD neul
[04:29] <neul> yes?
[04:29] <sd32> lol
[04:29] <mjponce> some girls use neutral nicks
[04:30] <mjponce> for no show gender
[04:30] <neul> that's a wise decision
[04:30] <bioss> thanx read the article
[04:32] <bioss> out bye to all !! see tomorrow
[04:32] <neul> i was just asking advice mj
[04:33] <neul> :)
[04:34] <mjponce> bye bioss
[04:35] <mjponce> yes ?
[04:36] <kickz> Hi all
[04:37] <kickz> what i need to play divx files in Kubungtu
[04:37] <kickz> Kubuntu
[04:37] <sd32> lol kubungtu
[04:38] <kickz> Lights off here, sorry.
[04:38] <sd32> !divx
[04:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <neul> whee! I got it mj
[04:41] <neul> ty
[04:41] <neul> I almost came :)
[04:45] <mjponce> kickz, open your eyes =)
[04:49] <prince_jammys> kung-fu-tu
[04:53] <baudthief> is there an app for KDE that can display CPU temp, on a graph preferrably?
[04:55] <stdin> !sensors
[04:55] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[04:56] <intelikey> !karumba
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karumba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <sd32> Error: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto: SyntaxError: Parse error at line 2
[04:57] <prince_jammys> !superkaramba
[04:57] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[04:57] <prince_jammys> !info conky  | baudthief
[04:57] <ubotu> baudthief: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[05:00] <baudthief> prince_jammys: doesnt have CPU temp anywhere ;\
[05:00] <prince_jammys> baudthief: i thought it did
[05:00] <prince_jammys> baudthief: from a screenshot i saw.  i don't have it installed
[05:06] <baudthief> installed it, no CPU temp for some reason ;\
[05:06] <baudthief> come to think of it, prett much all apps I've tried will show everything but cpu temp!
[05:06] <prince_jammys> baudthief: i saw this http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[05:07] <mjponce> bye o/
[05:07] <baudthief> hmm maybe I need to restart or something
[05:08] <baudthief> (after installing the lm-sensors package)
[05:08] <baudthief> unusual... but woth a shot
[05:08] <intelikey> baudthief    heh.
[05:09] <intelikey> no he didn't need to restart.   why do people think that way ?
[05:09] <intelikey> never mind.  i know why.
[05:10] <sd32> intelikey: dont forget reinstalling also
[05:14] <intelikey> yeah. i know    just a shame that the mindset has been so skewed by M$
[05:14] <Oloughlin75> intelikey: yep
[05:19] <dushara> Anyone got IIIMF working?
[05:20] <sd32> is there an irc for the eee pc yet?
[05:24] <sd32> guess not yet because the lack of much of a repository
[05:36] <sigma_1234> !away
[05:36] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[05:37] <jblack007> is that for me?
[05:37] <sigma_1234> nope
[05:37] <jblack007> cos this is my first time here
[05:38] <jblack007> u mind if i can ask you how to go abt my way here?

[05:40] <jblack007> !
[05:40] <intelikey> !welcome | jblack007
[05:40] <ubotu> jblack007: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:40] <intelikey> !ask | jblack007
[05:40] <ubotu> jblack007: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:41] <intelikey> !help | jblack007
[05:41] <ubotu> jblack007: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:41] <jblack007> thanks man
[05:41] <intelikey> welcome
[05:41] <intelikey> !topic | jblack007 one more.
[05:41] <ubotu> jblack007 one more.: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:42] <sivaji> i want to rename all the *.JPG to * jgp in /image dir  is it possible to do this with script
[05:43] <intelikey> for Q in /image dir/*.jpg ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done
[05:44] <sivaji> intelikey thanks i will try
[05:44] <intelikey> errr actually that may fail with spaces in the names.
[05:45] <intelikey> try this one.  echo "/image dir/*.jpg"  | while read Q ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done
[05:45] <jblack007> how can i get the command list in this IRC?
[05:46] <intelikey> /help
[05:47] <sivaji> intelikey its not working
[05:47] <NickPresta> alternatively, I came up with this: for x in *.JPG; do small=`echo $x | tr 'JPG' 'jpg'`; mv $x $small; done
[05:47] <NickPresta> I'm not sure if mine does what you want. It worked in my test case.
[05:47] <sivaji> NickPresta intelikey thanks a lot
[05:47] <sivaji> it works now
[05:48] <intelikey> NickPresta that only works in the same dir.
[05:48] <NickPresta> intelikey, indeed. It isn't recursive.
[05:48] <NickPresta> You could try this: http://www.linuxweblog.com/node/306
[05:49] <intelikey> NickPresta no i mean you have to be in the dir  i.e.  pwd only.      echo /image\ dir/*.jpg | while read Q ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr '.' ' '`" ;done
[05:49] <skar> hi, i'm running konsole and it runs sh->dash instead of bash, is there a way to tell konsole to run bash from now on?
[05:49] <intelikey> i just checked that,   it will work ^
[05:50] <intelikey> skar change the symlink
[05:50] <intelikey>  /bin/sh is only a symlink  you can point it at any posix compliant shell
[05:50] <NickPresta> intelikey, oh. `for x in /image/*.JPG; do small=`echo $x | tr 'JPG' 'jpg'`; mv $x $small; done` works for me when called from a different dir
[05:51] <intelikey> not with spaces in the name NickPresta
[05:51] <skar> intelikey: well, even then the prompt line is "sh-3.2#", while for another user's login its "root@runner:~#", how do i get the user@host:cwd type of prompt?
[05:51] <intelikey> have to quote your vars.
[05:52] <intelikey> skar that has nothing to do with shell    that the prompt   is that all you are interested in ?     export PS1="what ever you want here"
[05:52] <NickPresta> intelikey, yes, I forgot :)
[05:52] <NickPresta> intelikey, oh well. It's late and I'm tired. That's my excuse anyways
[05:53] <intelikey> and a good one it is. :)
[05:53] <skar> intelikey: hmm i wonder why one user has this prompt, while another doesn't?!?!
[05:53] <NickPresta> heh. I think I'm going to sleep. 0100 here. Goodnight all.
[05:55] <intelikey> skar ~/.profile ~/.bash_bashrc ~/.bash_profile ~/.bashrc  /etc/profile /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/bashrc and /etc/passwd   can all affect that.
[05:55] <skar> intelikey: thanks, am looking into that area :)
[05:55] <intelikey> shalom NickPresta
[05:56] <intelikey> skar you should check the last first.   if the shell is the same they should start reding the other files the same.
[05:56] <intelikey> if not they wont.
[05:57] <intelikey> that sentance no verb.
[05:57] <intelikey> ???
[05:57] <skar> intelikey: wow /etc/passwd was the problem, changed the shell to /bin/bash and it fixed the problem
[05:58] <intelikey> you're welcome.
[06:02] <draik> How do I remove the loading splash screen?
[06:03] <dthacker-work> Hi, I'm trying to mount an external USB HD.   After I tell kubuntu to open device in new window, nothing happens, how can I troubleshoot and mount?
[06:03] <glimbo> goto system settings then splash screen and then select none
[06:03] <draik> glimbo: I want to remove it.
[06:03] <glimbo> oh sorry
[06:04] <glimbo> lol
[06:04] <draik> I know its in the /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I forgot what needs to be added.
[06:04] <pushax> has Kubuntu got Openwall built into its kernel?
[06:04] <intelikey> draik nosplash
[06:04] <draik> intelikey: Thank you
[06:04] <draik> Wasn't there something about the frame buffer?
[06:06] <dthacker-work> ok, I told kubuntu to handle umounted external devices with konq:  now I get this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[06:07] <intelikey> draik if you want to prevent fbcon from hosing your consoles   vga={normal|0x0f05|0x0f04} <any of those "should" do that.
[06:10] <intelikey> all i'll see for the next several minutes is  [17188526.728000] Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 817
[06:10] <intelikey> [17188528.304000] Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 818
[06:11] <dthacker-work> offers intelikey his condolences. "it was a good drive"
[06:11] <intelikey> still is.   bad disk.
[06:11] <draik> I'm getting 960.0 kB/s (average) of a transfer rate from my external hdd to my laptop. Does this seem right?
[06:12] <pawan_> what is kde 4
[06:12] <dthacker-work> hmmm, this is a well known error.  wonder if it was fixed in gutsy.   I'll try the gutsy laptop.
[06:12] <dthacker-work> !kde4
[06:12] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment.   Boo!   off to the forums
[06:16] <draik> Should a 38GB file transfer take 12 hours?
[06:17] <intelikey> depends on the interface.  but generally   no.
[06:17] <draik> External HDD to laptop.
[06:17] <mrunagi> !flash
[06:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:17] <draik> via USB
[06:17] <intelikey> usb1.0 or 2.x ?
[06:17] <draik> 2
[06:18] <intelikey> more like 2 hours max   best i can tell
[06:18] <draik> :(
[06:18] <intelikey> so 10x what you're getting.
[06:18] <pawan_> hi
[06:18] <pawan_> how to change resolution
[06:19] <intelikey> !fixrez
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <draik> !resolution
[06:19] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:19] <intelikey> !fixres
[06:19] <intelikey> that seems to be what i meant
[06:20] <draik> Seems about right
[06:20] <draik> intelikey: I'm getting a transfer rate of about 960.0 kB/s
[06:21] <bobby> does anyone know why i get a
[06:21] <pawan_> i want to cahnge to 1024by 768
[06:21] <draik> Range is from 940 to 981 kB/s    :(
[06:21] <bobby> "ghosting" around the menus? i'm using compiz, and it displays this garbage between the menu and the shadow
[06:21] <draik> !fixres | pawan_
[06:21] <ubotu> pawan_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:22] <draik> !compiz | bobby
[06:22] <ubotu> bobby: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:22] <mrunagi> compiz is buggy with kde
[06:22] <intelikey> draik http://www.usb.org/about/usb_nomenclature
[06:23] <pawan_> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[06:23] <pawan_> [sudo] password for pawan:
[06:23] <pawan_>  * Usage: /etc/init.d/gdm {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}
[06:24] <liranh> hi to all
[06:24] <liranh> any one can help me with some tech prob - or maybe reffer me to the right channel to discuss it ?
[06:24] <intelikey> !ask
[06:24] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:25] <draik> How sad, I don't even get a meg per second on the rate.
[06:26] <draik> woohoo, I just reached 2%
[06:26] <liranh> i'm trying to install wine on Kubuntu 7.10 and i get this error line - Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[06:26] <intelikey> draik yeah makes me think that something is not configured/enabled/supported correctly there.
[06:27] <liranh> after that i get another line  - Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[06:27] <draik> intelikey: Where should I begin to look?
[06:27] <intelikey> draik dmesg prolly
[06:27] <pushax> has anyone got their address list in firefox to sort by visit date?
[06:28] <intelikey> draik from there maybe hdparm ?   not sure.
[06:28] <intelikey> liranh sudo apt-get install wine
[06:28] <liranh> i didt that
[06:28] <liranh> did*
[06:28] <intelikey> !wine | liranh
[06:28] <ubotu> liranh: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:29] <intelikey> also #wine-hq i think is the official channel for wine     or maybe no dasn just #winehq i don't recall
[06:30] <liranh> another n00b Q : how do i change/add channel ?
[06:30] <draik> intelikey: Thanks for your help. I work tomorrow morning. I might let the transfer start in the morning while I'm off to work.
[06:30] <intelikey> /join #channel_of_your_choice
[06:30] <synaptik> liranh-- you might also need to install wine-config
[06:31] <liranh> i think my prob goes far from that - i get a messege that says i need to check my $DISPLAY
[06:31] <intelikey> draik yeah on things that take 'for ever and a day' i normally appoint them a time when i'm not there.
[06:31] <synaptik> oh i see. did not read that closely. :)
[06:33] <intelikey> liranh if you stated correctly "<liranh> i'm trying to install wine on Kubuntu 7.10 and i get this error"  sudo apt-get install wine should "NOT" need to open any window.
[06:34] <liranh> i entered thta line before i tried to run the winecfg command and it was ok
[06:34] <intelikey> errr unless you call it from k's quick launch  'alt+f2'  then it would..
[06:35] <jeffobazoni> hello?
[06:35] <jeffobazoni> hey, do any of you guys think the Qt theme is ugly?
[06:35] <intelikey> ok  trying to install != trying to configure.    two entirely different things.   and yes winecfg will need to open a window.
[06:35] <liranh> well i typed it again (the apt-get line) and got this messege : wine is already the newest version.
[06:35] <intelikey> liranh are you trying this from within xorg or not ?
[06:36] <liranh> i dont know whats xorg is (well i kinda know but i didnt touch it yet)
[06:36]  * jeffobazoni is asking a question, dude
[06:36] <intelikey> jeffobazoni never seen it personally
[06:36] <jeffobazoni> you know, the Kubuntu button theme thing
[06:37] <intelikey> !xorg | liranh
[06:37] <jeffobazoni> and Kwin
[06:37] <ubotu> liranh: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:37] <jeffobazoni> nobody?
[06:37] <intelikey> jeffobazoni no actually i don't.
[06:37] <jeffobazoni> is this not the Kubuntu channel?
[06:38] <intelikey> jeffobazoni yes.  does that require everyone to use kde ?
[06:38] <intelikey> :)
[06:38] <jeffobazoni> no...
[06:38] <bobby> haha
[06:39] <bobby> it's been said i'm not patient
[06:39] <intelikey> bobby did you ask something ?
[06:39] <bobby> not today no :)
[06:40] <intelikey> claydoh:   referance to liranh ?
[06:40] <intelikey> oh ^
[06:40] <bobby> well i did, but didnt realize i couldnt ask compiz questions here... they're not too chatty over there though.
[06:40] <intelikey> claydoh:  referance to liranh ?
[06:40] <intelikey> oh,
[06:41] <intelikey> i can't figure out why if i type oh, and then other text it completes to claydoh: but if just   oh,  it doesn't.
[06:42] <bobby> reference to jeffobazoni if you're talking to me.
[06:42] <intelikey> well you can ask compiz questions here.  but you are not very likely to get them answered here.
[06:43] <intelikey> yeah i was.     didn't notice that he dropped out at the same time as the guy i was talking to     err the other guy i was talking to ...
[06:43] <chee> I'm trying to add a program to the Kmenu. I want one button to run 2 programs at once, whats the command for that? ./dynamips & ./gns3 ?
[06:44] <bobby> ok well i guess i'll try again. I'm finding on the right and bottom sides of menus there's a bit of "garbage" or "ghosting" around it, between the menu and shadow. I wanted to know how to get rid of that.
[06:44] <intelikey> chee that will background the first and run the second;  yes.
[06:44] <GSF1200S> chee: what programs scripts are you trying to run
[06:44] <GSF1200S> you can connect bash commands with &&
[06:45] <chee> I want to run 2 programs, dynamips and gns3 together at same time
[06:45] <intelikey> GSF1200S that would be sequential and conditional
[06:45] <GSF1200S> yeah
[06:45] <intelikey> chee yes background the first and call the second
[06:45] <GSF1200S> i didnt realize that.. :)
[06:47] <intelikey> sequential non-conditional would be   blah ; blah    sequential conditional  blah && blah2   and  blah || blah2   the first runs blah2 only if blah ends with exit code 0 the second only if it doesn't     and   blah & blah2   will run blah in the background and blah2 in the forground
[06:48] <chee> thats too many steps
[06:48] <chee> er. maybe not
[06:48] <chee> but i just needed to know what goes in the 'command' part of the shortcut
[06:48] <intelikey> that's four desctiprions of your options.
[06:49] <chee> but i got the answer and it works. thanks
[06:49]  * chee thinks intelikey is smart
[06:51] <intelikey> echo oh & { sleep 3 ; echo boo ; } && { sleep 2 ; ls ; } || echo ooops     <<< uses them all.
[06:51] <loslalfos> intelikey: i already know what you wrote above. what i'd like to know if it's possible to make if ... then ... else ... via command line alone...
[06:51] <intelikey>                   ^           see
[06:52] <chee> my last question for the night is how can i config interfaces so they stay that way after reboot? ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up - goes away after reboot
[06:52] <intelikey> more usable example#   grep -q PS1 ~/.profile && echo yes || echo no
[06:53] <intelikey> chee put the static addressing in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:54] <chee> good thanks a lot intelikey
[06:54] <intelikey> welcome
[06:55] <intelikey> loslalfos it is also possable to use the "if blah ;then blah ;else blah ;fi" statement  yes...    but  "blah && blah || blah" is shorter
[06:56] <butch> hi I need help on mounting a ntfs disk
[06:56] <intelikey> !ntfs | butch
[06:56] <butch> fdisk -l doesnt work
[06:56] <ubotu> butch: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[06:56] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l
[06:56] <intelikey> or cat /proc/partitions
[06:57] <butch> duh had to use sudo
[06:57] <butch> <---dummy
[06:57] <butch> lol
[06:57] <butch> thx intelli
[06:58] <intelikey> actually you shouldn't have to.  but the ubuntu use of udev permissions does make it so that you often do have to.
[06:58] <intelikey> they even had /dev/null only writable by root at one point
[06:58]  * intelikey considers that a bug.
[06:59] <butch> ok I need to install ntfs3g
[06:59] <butch> agreed
[06:59] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[06:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:59] <intelikey> !info ntfs-3g
[06:59] <ubotu> ntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:1.913-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[06:59] <butch> iu just apt-get
[06:59] <intelikey> yep
[07:00] <butch> cat /proc/filesystems   doesnt show ntfs
[07:00] <butch> ??
[07:00] <intelikey> cat /proc/partitions
[07:00] <butch> Setting ntfs-3g suid root with group fuse...done
[07:00] <butch> Users from 'fuse' group can now mount NTFS volume.
[07:01] <intelikey> partitions not filesystems   /proc/filesystems shows what fs's are currently supported through modules inserted into the kernel
[07:01] <loslalfos> intelikey: thank you! have been away for a few minutes...
[07:01] <intelikey> on the cat command ^
[07:02] <intelikey> loslalfos welcome
[07:04] <liranh> well i'm back
[07:05] <loslalfos> intelikey: i was just wondering about this "issue" because the other day somebody else was very convinced that there is no "else" way on the command line. what can i say...
[07:07] <liranh> my previous prob still exist
[07:07] <intelikey> loslalfos tell them to test this# if grep -q PS1 ~/.profile ;then echo "ps1 set in ~/.profile" ;else echo "no ps1 not set in ~/.profile" ;fi
[07:08] <intelikey> by default PS1 is not set in your user profile  but it can be set there. with an export PS1='something' dirrective
[07:09] <intelikey> liranh are you trying this from within xorg or not ?
[07:09] <liranh> anyone can tell me whats $DISPLAY means ?
[07:09] <intelikey> yep means nothing until it's set
[07:10] <liranh> no - i didnt touched the xorg.conf file
[07:10] <intelikey> that's not what i'm asking.
[07:10] <intelikey> are you running xorg ?
[07:10] <intelikey> is xorg running ?
[07:11] <butch> thx intelli drive is working
[07:11] <liranh> how do i check if its running ?
[07:11] <intelikey> liranh sorry. i can't help you.
[07:12] <liranh> its ok - thanks for trying. i know that my almost 0 knowledge in linux is making it hard to help me
[07:12] <intelikey> maybe someone with a more "pointy clicky thingy" mentality can.
[07:12] <intelikey> !xorg
[07:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
 The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. <<< i.e.  the "pointy clicky thingy"    if you use "pointy clicky thingy"  then xorg is running.
[07:14] <intelikey> if you type command for all that you do,  and there is no "window (tm)" on your screen,  then chances are that it's not inside of xorg.
[07:17] <slop> i have a problem: adept notifier keeps telling me i have an update.  when i get the update, it says update complete, but the adept notifier is still there. when i click it again, it gets the same update, then tells me its complete...and the process continues. NOTE: i've already done 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[07:17] <liranh> well i'm writing to you from within my PC that runs Kubuntu - and if you mean that "poity clicky thingy" is the GUI then yea its running
[07:17] <intelikey> if you move the mouse around and, there is not a visable mouse pointer on the screen.   then it's likely not inside of xorg.     or if there is one but it is a large white block the size of "all" other charictors on the screen,  then it's probably not inside of xorg.     anything else   then just say "yes"
[07:17] <intelikey> ok it is withing xorg that you are typing the command and recieving the error message.    good.  now i can move to the next step.
[07:18] <liranh> ok i think i got it now - yea i'm in xorg
[07:18] <intelikey> type in the konsole inside of xorg this command and tell me what it says back to you#     echo 1$DISPLAY
[07:20] <intelikey> konsole == the terminal emulator that looks like the "dos prompt (tm) screen" in that other os
[07:20] <liranh> it gives back - 1
[07:20] <intelikey> ok.
[07:20] <intelikey> tyep in this#   export DISPLAY=':0' ; winecfg
[07:21] <intelikey> type ^
[07:21] <liranh> gives me the same error
[07:21] <intelikey> display the error message here
[07:22] <intelikey> you can "left click highlight" and "middle click paste"
[07:22] <liranh> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:22] <liranh> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded
[07:22] <liranh> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[07:22] <liranh> sorry there another line
[07:22] <liranh> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:22] <intelikey> liranh ok that's not the same error message.    you were getting "$DISPLAY not set"
[07:23] <intelikey> liranh is that on kde4 by any chance ?
[07:23] <liranh> no - its on kde
[07:23] <intelikey> ok
[07:24] <intelikey> are you in a second instance of kde ?    i.e. used the switch users option ?
[07:25] <liranh> i dont think so - i've restarted the machine several time so i guess not
[07:26] <liranh> but at the first time i entered this PC there was another user logged on
[07:26] <intelikey> you can press# alt+ctrl+f7   to find out.   if it changes anything then "yes" if not then "no"   and if it changes anything then    alt+ctrl+f8   to switch back  or f9 depending on how many sub servers deep you ar
[07:27] <liranh> when i pressed ctrl+alt+F7 - nothing happend, when i pressed with F8 it changed the screen
[07:27] <intelikey> another way to test. type in this#   export DISPLAY=':0.1' ; winecfg
[07:29] <liranh> when i typed "export DISPLAY=':0.1' ; winecfg" - i got this : Xlib: connection to ":0.1" refused by server
[07:29] <liranh> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:31] <intelikey> liranh yes what you found with   ctrl+alt+f8   was probably the leftover bootup messages in tty8    ubuntu linux has 6 login consoles (tty[1-6]) and one grapthical server in tty7  avtive by default   and you can activate up to 255 of them.
[07:31] <liranh> well how do i close all of them ? - hardreset maybe ?
[07:32] <intelikey> liranh one other thing i want you to check, type in#   ps aux | grep -v grep | grep ':0'
[07:33] <liranh> i got alot of output from that
[07:33] <intelikey> liranh you don't want to.    if you even need to fix xorg because it wont run how will you do that without a tty ?   and they are not permiscuos
[07:33] <intelikey> liranh don't show us.
[07:34] <liranh> ok - so what should i look for in that output ?
[07:34] <intelikey> anyone else around that might know why he's getting a connection error....
[07:34] <intelikey> oh wait.
[07:34] <intelikey> i know why
[07:34] <intelikey> you are in a "root" shell
[07:34] <intelikey> exit
[07:35] <liranh> ok
[07:35] <werner_> hi
[07:35] <liranh> i'm out of root
[07:35] <intelikey> you can't connect form another user.
[07:35] <intelikey> now run the     winecfg
[07:35] <intelikey> or even      sudo winecfg      if you need too.
[07:35] <liranh> OMG !!!!!!!!!! - its working
[07:36] <liranh> you are one hell of a guy
[07:36] <westy> is this support for ps3 kubuntu too?
[07:36] <liranh> or gal - whatever
[07:36] <liranh> like i said i'm just a beginner and that is definently a n00b error
[07:37] <intelikey> westy if anyone here can help you with it they probably will.
[07:37] <liranh> and to think i spend like 2 hours on that
[07:37] <intelikey> liranh yeah it was almost so "obvious" that i over looked it.
[07:40] <author> hrm hi everyone.  third time ive installed kubuntu 7.10 (or so i thought).  things are going swimmingly finally but when i use adept to try to update it says a package (the updated kernel) would break the system; it cancels the update but says theres a version upgrade available.  now dist-upgrade.py has *zero* activity, and the version upgrade is stalled at Installing the upgrades: 0%.  second time this has happened.  any ideas on
[07:40] <author> how to bypass this?  (for the record, the CD *is* kubuntu 7.10, the version to upgrade to is 7.10, and my ubuntu 7.10 works flawlessly)
[07:40] <westy> okay the question i have is i just downloaded the kubuntu gutsy gibbon and at the kboot i hit enter and it shows this---get memory ranges1 modified cmdline:root=label=/ file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed quiet -- and it shows disconnect on all usb drives and dergistered on all drives also
[07:40] <westy> and it just sits there and does nothing
[07:40] <liranh> well thanks for all the help - i'm off to subottage my system ;)
[07:40] <liranh> bye
[07:40] <author> peace, liranh
[07:41] <westy> i had gentoo on there but really like kubuntu but looks like i have to go back to gentoo
[07:42] <westy> unless there's an explanation why i have a bugged copy
[07:42] <westy> if its bugged in the first place
[07:44] <intelikey> author i think if you check the forums that's a known and well documented bug.
[07:45] <author> doi thank you...sry O:-)
[07:47] <intelikey> westy sounds like it can't find it's own butt with both hands...
[07:47] <westy> hmm what would be the cause of that?
[07:47] <intelikey> i mean the cd's initramfs can't find the cd
[07:47] <westy> lol
[07:48] <westy> thats retarted
[07:49] <westy> so in other words the official cd of kubuntu is broken in other words
[07:49] <westy> thats for ps3 i mean
[07:49] <westy> not for pc
[07:50] <author> intelikey: afraid i didnt see any threads though im sure im missing it, but running it from console (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and working fine so far.  better get off this app before it updates :-P
[07:50] <author> ty for your help, have a good day/night
[07:50] <intelikey> yeah i'd say that pretty well sums is up.    it's not easy to make an initramfs that will fit into ram at boot time and can do all things for all people
[07:50] <vijay> hi every1
[07:51] <westy> well damnit that sux
[07:51] <intelikey> last time i checked the initramfs was like 6g compressed
[07:52] <westy> god
[07:52] <intelikey> westy could a net install work for you ?
[07:53] <intelikey> !install
[07:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:53] <vijay> can any 1 tell me "how to disable data compression in cdma modem" ?
[07:54] <westy> this is a couple more things out of that boot thing
[07:54] <westy> ps3-ohci-driver sb_06 remove state 1
[07:54] <loslalfos> intelikey: i'd like to do an install on an old computer which can only boot via diskettes. i'd like to do a netinstall like debian provides...
[07:55] <westy> usb usb4: usb disconnect, address 1
[07:55] <intelikey> loslalfos have a look at the page ubotu mentioned ^
[07:56] <loslalfos> intelikey: of course not. i'm unable to stretch time yet. ;)
[07:56] <westy> then shows ps3-ehci-driver sb_03 and 04 and 05 usb bus 1 deregisterd
[07:57] <westy> just thought i'd post that maybe someone had the same problem i having.. might try another cd but thats a BIG DAMN MIGHT lol
[07:57] <studente> hi aòll
[07:57] <studente> hi all*
[07:57] <loslalfos> but the pages i read so far where about old versions of ubuntu. maybe i should rephrase it to: i wish there were an *officially* supported netinstall for ubuntu like debian has. ;)
[07:58] <loslalfos> like debian has=like debian has for debian :D
[07:58] <westy> how old your computer los?
[07:58] <intelikey> loslalfos that's why i pointed at the link ^
[07:59] <dhq> mounting "aufs on union failed": no such device
[07:59] <westy> what you could do is maybe a sshd on another distro
[07:59] <westy> and do net install that way
[07:59] <westy> if that works on ubuntu
[07:59] <loslalfos> intelikey: yeah, i should stop complaining and start reading, right? ;)
[08:00] <jesse> Hello.
[08:00] <westy> hey jesse
[08:00] <HTML-insane> Lo there.
[08:00] <jesse> Does anyone here know Compiz-fusion well... with Kubuntu?
[08:00] <HTML-insane> I got Compiz Fusion working on Feisty yesterday...
[08:00] <jesse> Because I can't seem to get it to work.
[08:00] <HTML-insane> How convenient.
[08:00] <jesse> I'm on Gutsy.
[08:00] <HTML-insane> Ah, well that might be the problem...
[08:01] <jesse> I'm a little Linux-tarded.
[08:01] <HTML-insane> I couldn't get it to work on Gutsy.
[08:01] <HTML-insane> Just google, "Compiz gutsy" and look round.
[08:01] <jesse> I just reinstalled Kubuntu for the third time because I screwed something up trying to run Compiz.
[08:02] <HTML-insane> Oh, and if the menubars don't show, you should type into the, "run" dialogue: "kde-window-decorator", or if you have it, "emerald --replace".
[08:03] <westy> http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/upgrade_to_ubuntu_gutsy_with_compizfusion/
[08:03] <westy> try that
[08:03] <jesse> Yeah, but I have a habit of doing something wrong and then I can't type anything into the run dialog.
[08:03] <HTML-insane> Ah, I see what you mean...
[08:03] <HTML-insane> well, try the link.  This is an off topic room?  I just looked at the top of my Konversation window.
[08:06] <jesse> :facepalm:
[08:06] <HTML-insane> All I see is, "#kubuntu".
[08:06] <jesse> Oh.
[08:06] <jesse> Nevermind.
[08:06] <westy> even if you do screw it up 9 times out of 10 its something easy to fix if you screw up the windows partition ie:defrag before partition is a must
[08:06] <jesse> That appears to be a link bar.
[08:07] <westy> unless you wipe it out lol
[08:07] <HTML-insane> Ew, I used to have a windowz partition...
[08:07] <westy> its more like winblowz
[08:07] <intelikey> i used to have a partition
[08:07] <jesse> The reinstalling Kubuntu doesn't bother me all that much.  It's the fact that unetbootin doesn't store a copy of the iso it used for the previous installation.
[08:08] <jesse> But, at least it isn't Wubi.
[08:08] <jesse> I couldn't stand Wubi.
[08:08] <westy> i have to have a winblowz partition cuz the ol' lade dont know how to use linux gentoo
[08:08] <westy> lol
[08:08] <westy> so i have vmware installed for here
[08:08] <westy> bla good thing i have 4gigs of memory
[08:08] <westy> lmao
[08:09] <westy> for her**
[08:09] <jesse> What exactly is wmware?  Does it install Linux for real or does it install a virtual Linux like Wubi does?
[08:09] <HTML-insane> I think it's a virtual machine.
[08:09] <westy> yeah
[08:09] <jesse> Blech.
[08:09] <HTML-insane> Anyway, you can make restore points in the command line...
[08:09] <westy> either used on winddows or linux or mac
[08:10] <HTML-insane> Let me check.
[08:10] <westy> its emulated off of a ibm computer i belieive
[08:10] <intelikey> westy my mother was 60 when she got her first computer.   it had win98 on it.   i installed mdk9.0 when it came out and switched her over.   she never has complained about it.
[08:10] <westy> damn
[08:10] <westy> thats crazy
[08:10] <westy> lol
[08:10] <jesse> As far as I know, what I use installs a non-virtual Linux.
[08:11] <jesse> It does partitions.
[08:11] <author> hi all.  fully updated system, latest stable, just installed and updated.  try to mount my windoze drives to access my mp3s and get hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000.  open systemsettings, go to user admin, click Administrator Mode..., put in my password and it returns without putting me in admin mode.  close, run sudo systemsettings, add "disk" to my user's permissions.  i even *restart* my comp.  same hal error.
[08:11] <author> any ideas on either the problem with admin mode or the hal drive access permission?
[08:11] <pushax> lamer quesiton.   how do you install a .KIT file?  I downlaoded password gorilla and it's in a kit form for linux.
[08:11] <intelikey> author known bug,  known fix.
[08:12] <author> gah im sorry again.  ill find the url itself but what *site* should i look at?
[08:12] <author> myself*
[08:12] <intelikey> !bug
[08:12] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[08:12] <HTML-insane> Yeah, to stop from having to reinstall every time you muck up, got to the directory, "/etc/X11" (the X is a capital!)
[08:13] <jesse> Wait. What exactly do I do?
[08:13] <jesse> With the X11?
[08:13] <jesse> Is there a command or something?
[08:13] <HTML-insane> Yes.
[08:13] <HTML-insane> In the command line, type, "cd /etc/X11".
[08:13] <jesse> Seriously?    Sorry for the language.
[08:16] <westy> lmao
[08:16] <jesse> lol
[08:17] <HTML-insane> :p
[08:18] <jesse> I mean, come one.  That makes total and complete sense.
[08:18] <jesse> come on*
[08:18] <HTML-insane> Exactly.
[08:18] <HTML-insane> That's what you're given the command line for. :p
[08:19] <intelikey> HTML-insane you do realize that specifying the path would work in one command.   sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup   <<<< backup   restore >>>> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:19] <intelikey> just a thought.
[08:20] <jesse> Wait. One more question.  When you type change the path, does the original path remain as a file? Does ./xorg.conf remain there?
[08:21] <HTML-insane> Yeah, I realise that, but for the people that can't be bothered remembering the directories, or otherwise like to use midnight commander...
[08:21] <intelikey> if you cp (cp == copy) it does.  if you mv (mv == move) it doesn't
[08:21]  * intelikey uses mc !
[08:21] <intelikey> :)
[08:21] <HTML-insane> There you go then :p
[08:22] <intelikey> what newB'z need to learn is tab-completion
[08:22] <intelikey> !tab
[08:22] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:25] <Agent_bob> intelikey is dead.    long live intelikey!
[08:25] <jesse> Okay.... So... the command "cd /etc/X11 cp ./xorg.conf ./xorg.conf1" should be done BEFORE I mess with compiz.  And then if I screw up, I just log into Failsafe mode and enter "cd /etc/X11 cp ./xorg.conf1 ./xorg.conf"
[08:25] <author> intelikey: regarding the admin mode button on systemsettings, im seeing one bug report with no real solution.  yes, i can run it from console with sudo but seriously i need a solution, not a workaround!
[08:25] <jesse> Right?
[08:28] <author> mmk intelikey appears to be gone...might anyone else be able to assist me with either issue?  :(
[08:28] <Agent_bob> author i'm sorry.  maybe i misread you eariler.   thought you were asking about the bug with bug in the update manager. showing updates when there are none.   "now dist-upgrade.py has *zero* activity, and the version upgrade is stalled at Installing the upgrades: 0%."
[08:29] <author> i worked around that by running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade from konsole
[08:29] <Agent_bob> ok then i don't recall pointing you at another bug report ???
[08:30] <author> you didnt, you said known bug known fix i think
[08:30] <author> regarding the admin mode button
[08:30] <intelikey> that was about the update manager
[08:30] <intelikey> sorry for any confusion.
[08:31] <author> ugh, ok.  im sorry if i was unclear.  shall we start over?
[08:31] <intelikey> lets
[08:31] <author> hehe
[08:31] <author> ok sec to type
[08:33] <dthacker-work> I need more coffee
[08:33] <intelikey> "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000."  <<<   i think that's a known bug too.  but i could be wrong about it.     seems like it's something to do with not being in the right group or something.
[08:34] <intelikey> i don't use hal so i have not the foggiest
[08:34] <dthacker-work> intelikey: I installed ntfs-config, then I did a force mount at the command line.  Not pretty, but effective
[08:34] <author> thats what i thought too - i added myself to the "disk" group, which was teh only existing one i saw that seemed relevant other than hal-daemon which i assume is incorrect (or is it?) and it had no effect
[08:35] <intelikey> hal-daemon is probably it
[08:35] <ubuntu> mmm se puede hablar en español aqui?
[08:35] <dthacker-work> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[08:35] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[08:35] <author> but but but....  i assumed that was regarding controlling the hal daemon.  gah!
[08:36] <intelikey> but but but... maybe it's reguarding what hald controls insted
[08:36] <author> hehe
[08:36] <author> oh DUH disk is for floppy disks...aka linux 101
[08:37] <author> i forgot cuz i havent used a floppy drive on linux in a LONG time :-P
[08:37] <intelikey> is it disk   or disks ?
[08:37] <author> disk :-P
[08:38] <intelikey> vely intelesting
[08:38] <author> call it the demise of linux but there should be a way to add comments in /etc/groups (is that it?) that can be interpreted as tooltips :-P
[08:38] <dthacker-work> author: is this an external disk?
[08:39] <author> dthacker-work: nope, internal sata-ii
[08:39] <author> ...that windows thinks is removable
[08:39] <intelikey> dthacker-work it's the   hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000   error
[08:39] <dthacker-work> do you know the device?
[08:39] <author>  /dev/sda, im trying to access...erm i dont know the partition number, i can check if you liek
[08:39] <dthacker-work> yes, I had that earlier tonight in different circumstances
[08:40] <ubuntu> Nobody answer in the other 2 channels, the spanish ones, maybe its because they are sleeping, anyway, i need some help, im new in GNU/linux
[08:40] <cafka> i am trying to mount /dev/sda7 but i get this.. mount: can't find /dev/sda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab??
[08:40] <ubuntu> im trying to install in my machine
[08:40] <author> cafka you must specify where to mount it to
[08:40] <author> mkdir ~/sda7; sudo mount /dev/sda7 ~/sda7
[08:40] <intelikey> cafka   sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[08:41] <ubuntu> ooops
[08:41] <author> erm that wont work thatll mount it to a non-existent dir in /root :-P
[08:41] <dthacker-work> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601210   is a hal thread
[08:41] <intelikey> ubuntu continue.
[08:41] <intelikey> author actually no.  that will work.
[08:42] <intelikey> author the tild is expanded by the shell before sudo ever sees it
[08:42] <author> intelikey: good point, though i would bet theres a shell out there that wont replace it until after the sudo :-P
[08:42] <ubuntu> ok i have a little trouble setting up the partitions because i dont know anything about it just know that i reserved a space (with no partitioning) to install linux but i dont know what kind and space of partition to make
[08:43] <author> intelikey: its "better" to put the dir in /media or /mnt anyway, i just always forget about 'em
[08:43] <intelikey> author it's like using this to fix ownership problems#  sudo chown -R $USER $HOME
[08:44] <author> intelikey: wow, thats either lazy or brilliant, depending on your view.  :-P
[08:44] <intelikey> that's a generic that should always work
[08:44] <dthacker-work> lazy *is* brilliant.   Larry Wall says so.
[08:44] <author> probably help if i knew who that was
[08:45] <dthacker-work> The author of perl
[08:45] <author> btw the admin mode button is mysteriously working i *think*
[08:45] <intelikey> lazy works harder to keep from working than diligent does working
[08:45] <author> ah.  nice ^.^ i know richard stallman and linus torvalds, thats about it
[08:45] <author> true
[08:46] <intelikey> dthacker-work perl  </gag>
[08:47] <dthacker-work> perl is just one thing on my trusty utility belt.    and I should get back on topic.
[08:49] <intelikey> ubuntu linux needs about 4+ gig of unpartitioned space to install     the installer (ubiquity)  will help you set it up when the time comes.
[08:50] <intelikey> dthacker-work oh come on,  stay OT for a while.  we have a little fun around here while the ops sleep.
[08:50] <author> erm the thread says the workaround for the hal issue is to add policykit to the system.  im not seeing policykit in adept, and i even *feels smart for a very very tired person* enabled third-party repos and fetched updates (community/unsupported repos were already on)
[08:50] <ubuntu> ok, thanks im going to see what happens
[08:50] <intelikey> !find policykit
[08:51] <ubotu> Package/file policykit does not exist in gutsy
[08:51] <author> ouch
[08:51] <intelikey> the bot isn't finding it either.
[08:51] <author> so i saw :-P
[08:51] <intelikey> !find policykit dapper
[08:51] <pinepain> hi, what is comand name to show kde settings dialog
[08:51] <ubotu> Package/file policykit does not exist in dapper
[08:51] <intelikey> pinepain kcontrol
[08:52] <pinepain> intelikey thx
[08:52] <author> ah it appears that it may not have been debianized yet
[08:52] <dthacker-work> author: halfway through that thread there is a tip on opening Dolphin, selecting media and the unclicking mount as usr
[08:52] <author> from some random forums: "
[08:52] <author> Is there any
[08:52] <author>  information on when policykit is going to be debianised?
[08:52] <author> im sorry for the 3 line post, it really shouldnt have put in newlines there....
[08:53] <dthacker-work> that got me halfway there (external drive, mind you) and then I used the "force command" to mount the drive successfully
[08:54] <intelikey> being ineteral  i'd just setup fstab to mount it.
[08:54] <author> i was hoping to find a way to mount it as intended, rather than change my settings to adapt to a broken system
[08:54] <andy> :(
[08:54] <dthacker-work> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/newdisk -o force
[08:54] <intelikey> and cut hal completely out of the loop
[08:54] <andy> any one know how to fix the mplayer firefox plugin?
[08:55] <pinepain> who know how to disable automount dialog
[08:55] <intelikey> author using fstab is not adapting to a broken system.  it's using the linux (not the ubuntu) way
[08:55] <author> i dont want to automount it, and id be fine typing sudo mount /dev/... but if its this silly ill go back to my ubuntu (gnome) where, even though its gnome not kde it *works*
[08:56] <dthacker-work> andy: what is wrong with your firefox mplayer plugin?
[08:56] <author> im not gonna take steps backward, i want to use kde and not gnome (and dont tell me i should install kde on my ubuntu, i dont want gnome installed *period*)
[08:56] <intelikey> you dont have to automount it   just because it's in fstab     sheesh
[08:56] <author> hehe
[08:56] <dthacker-work> go author go!  can I get a witness!
[08:57] <intelikey> ^5
[08:57] <author> dthacker-work: rofl im not trying to be confrontational :-P
[08:57] <ubuntu> me again, still with the same problem, i have enought space to install kubuntu linux but i have several hard disks so when in the install tutorial im trying to install kubuntu, there is some part when i have to choose where i want to install it
[08:57] <andy> dthacker-work: it doesnt work at all it used to actually try and work you would see the mplayer logo and controlls but wouldn't play anything but now after i messed with it can't even see controlls any more
[08:57] <intelikey> preaching at the choir author     say on@
[08:58] <ubuntu> so i select manual mode because none of the other methods works for me
[08:58] <dthacker-work> author:  I'm with you.  I'm Gnome free!
[08:58] <author> intelikey: lol ok.  so whats the solution, barring taking any steps backward?  cuz i know how to work in the command line perfectly well, im plenty comfortable there, but i still like graphics, d...arn... it!  (dono the obscenity policy, better safe than sorry)
[08:59] <ubuntu> but when i select the manual mode, i dont know in my free (non partitioned) space what to do so if you can help me making the right partitioning i will apreciate alot
[08:59] <dthacker-work> andy: can you uninstall the plugin and re-install it?
[08:59] <author> dthacker-work: nothin against gnome, i know a lot of people who like it and its a great system, but im a kde guy whos been denied kde for long enough!
[09:00] <andy> dthacker-work: i tried that nothing changes
[09:00] <intelikey> ubuntu   you select "make new"   ext3  file system
[09:00] <pinepain> any one know how to disable autorun dialog?
[09:00] <intelikey> ubuntu select that as the / (root) file system
[09:00] <dthacker-work> pinepain: the dialog box appears when you do what?  Put in a CD?
[09:01] <ubuntu> ok in this ext3 file system partition i select all the free space?
[09:01] <intelikey> author i don't have x installed here.
[09:01] <dthacker-work> andy: If reversing your change doesn't work, then it's Google time.  I haven't used that plugin....
[09:01] <intelikey> ubuntu you might want to leave about 512 meg  for a swap partition
[09:02] <ubuntu> ok
[09:02] <author> intelikey: i would *hate* that - this isnt a work computer, this is my home computer!  i like linux  (primarily) for two things when im at home: window snapping/controls and eye candy.  ^.^
[09:02] <andy> it was googling that made it worse dthacker-work
[09:02] <intelikey> ubuntu is it a laptop ?
[09:02] <pinepain> dthacker-work, yupp, when i connect any removable storage device
[09:02] <author> fun stuff, i unchecked that mount as user box and it still didnt work.  *sigh*
[09:03] <intelikey> author i'm not much on eyecandy.   couldn't care less about it.
[09:03] <ubuntu> nope its a desktop
[09:03] <ubuntu> a normal pc im bad at english sorry
[09:04] <intelikey> ubuntu ok then you probably wont be wanting to "hybernate" the system   so 512 meg of swap should be plenty no matter how little/much ram you have.
[09:04] <ubuntu> ok great
[09:04] <author> ok, i need to get some sleep so i can hopefully talk to someone in sweden before she goes to bed.  take it easy everyone.  its sad but i think i may end up going back to gnome yet again....
[09:05] <intelikey> author that's the spirit....
[09:05] <author> have a good ...whatever it is for you guys
[09:05] <author> hehehe
[09:05] <author> cya
[09:05] <intelikey> k
[09:05] <author> thx for your help
[09:06] <dthacker-work> pinepain.  System-Settings-->Notifications--->Storage Media Notifications.
[09:06] <andy> where are the firefox plugins kept?
[09:06] <intelikey> i do actually have one box with xorg {gnome|kde|xfce4|blackbox|fluxbox|twm} installed on it.   i just never seem to use it for anything.
[09:07] <dthacker-work> old skool!
[09:07] <intelikey> yeah
[09:08] <intelikey> andy probably either /usr/share/firefox/*   or /usr/lib/firefox/*
[09:08] <andy> thanks
[09:08] <dthacker-work> andy: don't know.  Only use a few.
[09:09] <intelikey> i didn't like firefox much better than i liked sun(tm) products
[09:09] <pinepain> dthacker-work, and how to disable for all media type
[09:10] <ubuntu> Ok im creating the ext3 partition this are the settings that im putting i hope they are ok  here it is: type for the new partition: primary partition size 51364 megabytes Location for the new partiton (i selected none of the 2 options) Use as: ext3  Mount point (i cant select any option but i think that here i write "/root" im right)?
[09:10] <intelikey> no
[09:10] <intelikey> use   /
[09:10] <intelikey> not   /root
[09:11] <ubuntu> oh ok
[09:11] <intelikey> and seeing that you have 51g  it might be to your advantage to devide that into 6g / and 45g /home
[09:11] <intelikey> or 10g /   and 41g /home
[09:11] <dthacker-work> pinepain: hmmmm.  The delete button doesn't seem to be active on those.
[09:12] <dthacker-work> pinepain: I guess I don't have a quick answer.
[09:12] <ubuntu> mmm i dont know but you seem to know more than me so that its what im going to do
[09:12] <TimS> How can i list all the USB devices attached to my computer?
[09:13] <intelikey> the reason i mention using a seperate /home file system   is that you can in the feuture reinstall without losing the data in /home  but you can not easily do so with the data in /
[09:13] <intelikey> @ubuntu ^
[09:13] <twosouls82> TimS: lsusb
[09:13] <ubuntu> ooh ok now i get it
[09:14] <TimS> ubuntu: It would be more likely that you would use just /
[09:14] <dthacker-work> pinepain: About disabling the "notification window" try:
[09:14] <dthacker-work> kcontrol / peripherals / storage media ; select unmounted removable media; select "do nothing" and click on "toggle as auto action
[09:14] <ubuntu> that 6 or 10 Gb are the ones for instaling the Kubuntu system
[09:14] <dthacker-work> pinepain: ymmv
[09:15] <intelikey> ubuntu yes indeed,     and the other is only a sujestion.   you can set it up as seems good to you.   but you must have one / file system of at least 4g  for things to work correctly
[09:15] <intelikey> 4+ gig /
[09:15] <ubuntu> and in this case i still have to create the 512 swap partition right?
[09:15] <intelikey> could be 400g /    but does need to be at least 4g
[09:15] <dthacker-work> Ok, time for me to schlep home.  Good localtime all.
[09:15] <ubuntu> yeah, no problem it will be 10 Gb
[09:16] <intelikey> ubuntu yes still an extended swap of about 512m
[09:16] <intelikey> 1g if you want more room
[09:16] <TimS> Okay, I have a usb deviced plugged in at Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0fce:e031, how can I find its tty?
[09:16] <ubuntu> ok
[09:17] <pinepain> dthacker-work, actually it is too kludge way, it must be easy, some conf file. but thx, anyway =)
[09:17] <ubuntu> im gonna create all the partitions
[09:17] <intelikey> but you will probably never use it all.     i don't even have a swap space.
[09:17] <intelikey> still talking about swap  ^
[09:17] <dthacker-work> pinepain:  ask at launchpad.
[09:18] <dthacker-work> I need a chicken taco.  later.
[09:18] <intelikey> good $localtime dthacker
[09:19] <ubuntu> the data partition in the mount point option i write "/home"?
[09:20] <pinepain> is there any blacklist in kopete for icq users?
[09:22] <ubuntu> and in the swap partition, the same mount point option what i write?
[09:22] <intelikey> ubuntu in the swap you make the file system type swap and no mount point
[09:23] <ubuntu> ok perfect
[09:24] <ubuntu> its all done im going to proceed with the installation
[09:29] <pinepain> hi, is there any kind of blacklist in kopete for icq protocol?
[09:31] <TimS> Oh dear. I tryed to mount something and its gone wrong, I now tried to remove the directory it was supposed to mount in as I don't need it and its having trouble.
[09:31] <TimS> Oh dear. I think somethings wrong. What should I do.
[09:32] <intelikey> TimS where did you mount it ?
[09:32] <TimS>  /home/tim/se
[09:32] <intelikey> sudo umount /home/tim/se
[09:33] <TimS> sudo umount /home/tim/se
[09:33] <TimS> umount: /home/tim/se: device is busy
[09:33] <intelikey> TimS ok close the konqueror or konsole that is looking at it and try again
[09:33] <TimS> The device I mounted was 1-6 as that showed up when i plugged in my usb device and tried dmesg
[09:34] <TimS> It is closed.
[09:35] <intelikey> show me the mount command you issued ?
[09:35] <TimS> I used a program to mount symbian file systems so it was p3nfsd
[09:35] <intelikey> oh.
[09:36] <blaze> how can I run an application visible on all virtual desktops from terminal? is it possible?
[09:36] <intelikey> use the program to umount it
[09:36] <TimS> and just used the options for /dev/1-6 and the mount point of /home/tim/se
[09:36] <TimS> My kicker has crashed. doh.
[09:37] <TimS> It has no unmount command
[09:37] <intelikey> blaze probably.  but i don't konw how.
[09:37] <intelikey> hehhe  /dev/1-6   lol  oooops.
[09:37] <TimS> Is that bad?
[09:37] <TimS> Im guessing yes :P
[09:38] <intelikey> not really.   just go the windows way,   reboot.
[09:38] <MGalaxy> hi, I use compiz-fusion. Now, I have to click only and only on a window's TitleBar to active it, the windows wont be activated when I click on the other place of the window. Any solution?
[09:38]  * intelikey can't believe he really typed that....
[09:38] <TimS> can I do a hard reboot intelikey or should I do it via the terminal.
[09:38] <TimS> The kicker has crashed so I can't do it the normal way :P
[09:38] <intelikey> TimS try sudo init 6
[09:39] <Lynoure> blaze: why from the terminal? Is setting it in kde settings to start by default on all desktops an ok way? (you only need to set it once)
[09:40] <intelikey> i still can't believe i just told someone to reboot....
[09:40]  * intelikey is going bonnkers.  and should just leave.
[09:40] <blaze> Lynoure » this app is awn :)
[09:41] <hola> samene can help me o cofigure mey webcam
[09:41] <Lynoure> blaze: sorry, don't know what app being an awn means...
[09:41] <TimS> Where did intelikey go!
[09:42] <TimS> I wanted to tell him that i loved him
[09:42] <Lynoure> blaze: oh, avant-window-navigator?  Never tried it, claims to be for gnome...
[09:43] <TimS> I have used it on KDE before.
[09:43] <blaze> yep
[09:43] <Lynoure> blaze: still, if it needs to be on all desktop, kde:s window rules might still help. Tried them and they did not?
[09:44] <blaze> ok, I'll try
[09:45] <hola> samene can help me o cofigure mey webcam
[09:45] <jves> Hello, I  just changed to Kubuntu from Fista. Got everything working, only when I play movies in VLC they freeze evey few seconds for a short time...
[09:46] <jves> Anyone any experience with this?
[09:47] <TimS> jves: Does it happen in any other media player?
[09:48] <Lynoure> blaze: let me know if it worked
[09:49] <ubuntu> well it installed already im going to reebot
[09:50] <ubuntu> thanks alot inteliked for your patience
[09:50] <jves> In Kaffeine I didn't get anything visible at all....
[09:50] <TimS> !codecs
[09:50] <TimS> You need the correct media codecs.
[09:50] <TimS> VLC comes with them, but its better to install the proper ones.
[09:50] <emilsedgh> maybe thats the graphic cards problem
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:51] <emilsedgh> i had such problems a few years ago, that was because of misconfigurations and bad drivers of video cards
[09:51] <hola> samene can help me o cofigure mey webcam
[09:53] <jves> I use the restricted Nvidia driver with a Nvidia 7900 Go 256Mb card....
[09:54] <blaze> Lynoure » yes, it works, tx
[10:11] <TimS> Freenode is not very nice. He kicks me when I am down.
[10:12] <vitjoc> Ппрмвет всем
[10:13] <pag> !ru | vitjoc
[10:13] <ubotu> vitjoc: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:14] <vitjoc> Привіт всім
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[10:52] <lordrayden> hi all
[10:53] <lordrayden> anyone knows a good cd ripper for kubuntu? I don't feel like experimenting right now :)
[10:54] <lordrayden> i'm running v 7.10 now
[10:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Since enabling TwinView with nvidia-settings, I experience unreproduceable hard-freezes of my system, I assume that's xserver-related... My xorg.conf now holds 3 monitor, device and screens sections, the first seems to be the old single-screen one and the other two for the seperate screens... Someone mind looking at it? http://pastebin.ca/914944
[10:54] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: I use KAudioCreator and am satisfied with it...
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: Else, kio-slaves will do you the job too
[10:55] <lordrayden> tnx, I got it, I'll give them a try
[10:55] <lordrayden> i used k3b till now and it's taking 2 long
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: Easiest is opening the audio cd in konqueror and copying the mp3 folder where you want it to be
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: You'll still need cdparanoia and lame, if I am not mistaken
[10:56] <lordrayden> what about the quality? I want to listen good tracks :)
[10:57] <lordrayden> what do u use, if u use any?
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> lordrayden: I use 192 kbit CBR, that's good enough for me to listen to on the PC and my portable player...
[10:57] <lordrayden> *which?
[10:58] <lordrayden> k, that's what i was askin for
[10:59] <sivaji> i was trying to boot from livecd kubuntu , i can see the progessbar starts and then  everything goes blank nothing happens
[11:01] <lordrayden> sivaji, U have an option to install text mode, did u try it?
[11:07] <Duzchip> Hi everyone. I've just got my mobile modem to connect on my kubuntu 7.10 -computer but it doesn't seem to wanna use the ppp0 connection
[11:08] <Duzchip> I can see its connected but i cant use the connection
[11:08] <Duzchip> How do i pick which interface to use?
[11:23] <demon4areson> hi i'm having a problem i istalled kubuntu and while i was try to get updates yesterday my machine completly froze
[11:24] <demon4areson> at first my bf thought it was a if you dont move your mouse in x time setting but i cant find one
[11:24] <demon4areson> now he thins it may dslke my hardware again
[11:25] <demon4areson> dislike*
[11:49] <weedar> Does anyone know if there's a new power manager for kde4 like the one in kde3 that shows batterystatus and cpu speed?
[11:49] <weedar> If not, what's the name of the old one :)
[11:53] <tdn> My sound volume is much lower after upgrading to Kubuntu 7.10! I have tried adjusting the volume in both alsamixer, aumix, kmix, etc, but none of it helps. How do I fix this? I do not even know how to investigate this problem any further.
[12:04] <harmental> hey guys...since i upgraded to kde 3.5.9 im experiencing two SERIOUS issues: 1) the kded process is taking up tp 40% of my proc and 2) kubuntu does no longuer recognize any of my usb drives.....
[12:05] <harmental> i need help truly asap....
[12:05] <harmental> google didnt help either...
[12:07] <siofwolves> tdn, i had the same problem, but alsamixer worked for me.
[12:08] <shockhead> hey folks
[12:08] <shockhead> i just realised that if I point konqueror at a sun java calendar (.wcap) then it opens it in an embedded korganizer :-)
[12:08] <shockhead> nice
[12:08] <shockhead> anyone any idea how I can just load it as a resource in Kontact?
[12:12] <shockhead> I found this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kresourcewcap/
[12:12] <shockhead> but I can't figure out if it's included in kubuntu
[12:13] <shockhead> sounds like it must have been if it works in konq, but the option's not there in kontact
[12:16] <Aikurn> maybe konq opens it as a local calendar file
[12:16] <shockhead> Aikurn: yeah, i tried that in kontact, and it didn't give me any errors, but the calendar was empty
[12:17] <Aikurn> too bad
[12:18] <Aikurn> look at the file type properties, wich app is it using to show the embedded part?
[12:18] <Aikurn> oh, and thanks to you i've just discovered that i can add my contact's birthdays as a resource to my calendar :)
[12:18] <shockhead> yep, great isn't it :-)
[12:19] <shockhead> the screenshot on that link showed an extra resource being listed in kontact... :-/
[12:19] <shockhead> will look at properties
[12:20] <shockhead> Aikurn: hmmm... i'm not even sure how to check the file's properties... korganiser has completely taken over my konqueror :-)
[12:21] <Aikurn> lol, don't worry it's not as evil as it looks
[12:22] <Aikurn> well, KResourcesWCAP doesn't seem hard to compile
[12:23] <tdn> siofwolves, then what do I do when alsamixer does not help?
[12:24] <rakan> Hell
[12:24] <rakan> hello*
[12:24] <rakan> how come "webmin" is not in kubuntu repo?
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> !webmin
[12:25] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> its not in the debian repos a any mor eeither
[12:25] <shockhead> Aikurn: true... I'm doing it now.. Just wondering if it's already packaged away somewhere on my system (or included in kontact)
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> you could install it from source if ya want
[12:26] <Aikurn> shockhead: oh, ok
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> !info ebox
[12:26] <ubotu> ebox (source: ebox): eBox - Base framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 1220 kB
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[12:26] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[12:28] <rakan> thanks
[12:28] <rakan> will try ebox
[12:35] <anne_> I feel like a complete idiot asking this, but why does this always echo my error message?
[12:35] <anne_> http://pastebin.ca/915006
[12:36] <lukas_> hello??
[12:36] <lukas_> is there anybody?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> lukas_,  301 people here it seems.
[12:37] <anne_> Don't count on it. I know, though, that etiquette is you ask your question right off the bat.
[12:37] <re-align> Doesn't mean any of us are paying attention to this chat...
[12:38] <re-align> We seem to have scared him off... :(
[12:38] <whitman> anne_, ASOUNDRC=/home/anne/.asoundrc.asoundrc <-- is that line right? Missing a / maybe?
[12:39] <anne_> whitman: nope, that's what the file is called. .asoundrc.asoundrc
[12:39] <whitman> ok, just looks odd
[12:39] <anne_> whitman: I know. I didn't name it, though
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. thats odd.. ive never seen one named that befor
[12:40] <re-align> Right. I have a fairly recent install of Kubuntu 7.10 and haven't changed much with it (just installed a few packages, mostly games and drivers and such; also updated what I can). I'm now looking to change the theme. Any theme managers I should try, or avoid?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> theres a lot of kde themes in the repos - not installed by default. Play with them
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> KDE 'themes' are a bit more complex then windows themes if thats what you are used to.
[12:41] <anne_> Dr_Willis: might be that you haven't used the convenience macro before - asoundconf set-default-card - it might create that file. .asoundrc refers to it.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> willis@kitchen:~$ ls -a .a*
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> .asoundrc  .asoundrc.asoundconf
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> somthing is... confused here.. :) You or me..
[12:43] <tdn> Firefox is using 50% CPU all the time, when it is just idling. I think it is the Flash plugin that is causing problems. How do I fix this?  I think I might have written asoundrc.asoundrc :s
[12:44] <lukas_> ??????
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> anne_,  thats what im thinking also. :)
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> !? :)
[12:45] <re-align> And then there's my MP3 player, I plug it into the USB port and kubuntu doesn't seem to notice it (or know what to do with it). As for the repos, I'm fairly new to Ubuntu/Kubuntu, so I don't have more than the basic ones that it installs by default, plus one I had to add for my EVDO card (some medibuntu reps as referenced in one of the tuts on the kubuntu forums).
[12:45] <lukas_> dr willis ,sorry but my english isnt very good
[12:46] <lukas_> dr willis????
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> lukas_,  well - i have not noticed you actually asking a question yet. :)
[12:47] <lukas_> im out of germany so  i can not understand all the things you told me
[12:47]  * re-align thought English was required learning in German schools these days...
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> We said to ask a question if you have one.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> also theres a german channel
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> !de
[12:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:47] <lukas_> real?
[12:48] <lukas_> i dont no that
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Theres Lot of other language channels :)
[12:48] <lukas_> baut the english chat is a bit funny
[12:49] <ubunturos> is running dapper drake in 2008 same as running 4.10 in 2006?
[12:50] <lukas_> yes but i never were on konversation
[12:50] <lukas_> so i have some little problems
[12:57] <warren_> bonjour
[12:57] <warren_> je souhaite passer au wifi pour une raison mais je suis un peu nul
[12:58] <re-align> !fr
[12:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:58] <warren_> cote compatibilité, puis-je acheter nimporte quel routeur wifi?
[12:58] <warren_> i am sorry
[12:58] <re-align> bah, guess that one doesn't work...
[12:58] <re-align> There may be a channel for French speakers, the bot doesn't seem to like me...
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Bot was slow to answer. :)
[12:59] <re-align> Ah, I see it now.
[13:01] <re-align> Still needing some assistance with my MP3 player. Under Windows it doesn't read like a removable drive, but like a portable media device (i.e. Windows recognizes it as an MP3 player and not a flash drive as it does with some models). Kubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with it though. It's a Samsung YP-U3.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> I just use mine as removeble hard drives.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> could be amarok, or some other apps might be able to see it as a special player.  but i rarely use those
[13:03] <psycose>  hello let's say i  want to start a new GPL project, called "myubuntu" should i ask permition to the ubuntu copyrigth owner because of the same name ? thanks (ubuntu is just an exemple ;-)
[13:04] <re-align> I'm not even sure how to mount it as a removable drive. I used to mount flash drives under Ubuntu, but that method doesn't seem to be working with this (or maybe it's just been long enough I've forgotten how to do it correctly...).
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Plug it in - and kde should pop up a dialog asking what to do with it.
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Or go hard-kore and mount it from the terminal. :)
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> be sure to unmount befor removing the device
[13:05] <Dragnslcr> psycose- if the code is GPL, you can fork it however you want. If the name of the project is trademarked, you'll probably have to come up with your own name
[13:05] <re-align> I plug it in and nothing happens (or at least, nothing seems to happen).
[13:05] <solaries> hi all
[13:05] <Dragnslcr> psycose- of course you can ask the trademark owners to use the name, but it's up to them
[13:05] <solaries> after updating ubuntu I get "GRUB error 18" and it does not boot any more. Any similar incidents?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> re-align,  check 'dmesg' output  and the 'removeable media' specail konqueror place.. (whatever its called)
[13:06] <re-align> It charges though, but that's simply due to the presence of power on the USB bus.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> a mp3 player that also charges from the USB port.. thats a nifty feature
[13:06] <Dragnslcr> Mine does
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> I got a GBA/DS cable that lets me charge them from USB. :)
[13:06] <re-align> I've had 2 that do that. They're both flash based, not hard drive.
[13:07] <psycose> Dragnslcr: thanks where can i find if the named is trademarked ?
[13:07] <re-align> One was a Sony and it was read as a flash drive by both Windows and Ubuntu. Unfortunately it died.
[13:07] <Dragnslcr> psycose- the project's website may have a licensing page that says what you can do with the name. Otherwise you'd have to ask someone involved with the project
[13:08] <re-align> The new one is the Samsung and is read differently for some reason...
[13:08] <psycose> Dragnslcr: ok thanks
[13:08] <Dragnslcr> I've had good luck with my Cowon. Only problem I've had is that I can't get Amarok to see it, even though it's supposed to be supported
[13:10] <metamoo> Can anybody help me get my onboard sound working? I'm stumped. I have no /dev/dsp, shows up in lspci as unknown device. It was working ok in opensuse 10.3
[13:12] <re-align> Right, here's the relavent dmesg output: http://www.pastebin.org/20879
[13:14] <psycose> Dragnslcr: so do you the the owner of GCC ?
[13:19] <swatto> hi all
[13:20] <swatto> anyone here play Nexuiz?
[13:20] <re-align> Lemme guess, no one's making sense out of the dmesg output I posted the link to...or maybe everyone's busy...
[13:23] <sivaji> i have more than 100's of .JPG file , i want to assign name like 1.jpg , 2.jpg ,.... is it possible to do with script
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> sivaji,  yes it is.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> :0
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:24] <sivaji> Dr_Willis how
[13:24] <epsilorn> hi! i'm trying to install latest alsa drivers but i've got this problem during Debuild :install: cannot stat `include/sound/*.h': No such file or directory
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> sorry only one  q./ per day. :)
[13:24] <epsilorn> have you gto some clues?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> sivaji,  heh - there are some gui renamer tools. Or  write a script that uses mv, or other tools
[13:30] <re-align> Any way to list connected USB devices? lusb doesn't seem to work.
[13:30] <re-align> Aside, of course, from dmesg...
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> !find rename
[13:31] <ubotu> Found: kdeaddons-kfile-plugins, gprename, gwenrename, krename, mp3rename (and 3 others)
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> sivaji,  i tend to use a tool called 'qmv' thats in some find name tool package.
[13:31] <sivaji> Dr_Willis ok
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> theres a windows tool called 'bulk rename utility' that i like. :) it runs with wine.
[13:41] <chartoin> can someone direct me to somwhere I can get help on xgl sessions
[13:43] <chartoin> can someone here help?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> i dont use xgl. sorry
[13:49] <romunov> what's that "package" called where you install apache, php, mysql?
[13:49] <nosrednaekim> chartoin» whats wrong?
[13:49] <nosrednaekim> !LAMP
[13:49] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[13:55] <gavo> hi... i am having a problem with my NTFS partitions... they are not automounting, and when I enter disk and filesystems under SYSTEM SETTINGS => ADVANCED, and try to manually enable, I get an error stating NTFS appears to be marked in use... though I have 3 seperate NTFS drives and they are all acting indentically
[13:56] <mrunagi> gavo:  i had that same problem'
[13:56] <mrunagi> lemme see your fstab entry
[13:56] <gavo> mrunagi I am always glad to hear when I am not alone!
[13:57] <gavo> urmmm im a bit of a noob... could you let me know how to view what you want to see?
[13:57] <gavo> and what is a good paste-site to put the error into?
[13:57] <mrunagi> that makes me think you didnt add the fstab entry
[13:57] <mrunagi> do you have ntfs-3g installed
[13:59] <re-align> Bah, this is getting really annoying...anyone else having issues with Adept telling you the database is locked, and there's no other process using it?
[13:59] <mrunagi> re-align: occasionally, if i cant kill the process i just restart
[13:59] <nosrednaekim> !adptfix
[13:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adptfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[14:00] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:00] <re-align> I get it every time I use any form of Adept, even from a fresh boot (cold, reboot, etc.)
[14:00] <mrunagi> nosrednaekim: youre my hero
[14:00] <gavo> mrunagi - no I didnt manually add any fstab entry... the drives are usually automounted during installation in *most* other distros, i thought it would be the same
[14:00] <gavo> ill check if ntfs-3g is installed... just a sec
[14:00] <mrunagi> gavo: i believe kubuntu can read and write by default but install it anyway
[14:00] <re-align> It pops up this window where it offers to try fixing it for me, and when I click Yes, to have it do so, it crashes with signal 6.
[14:00] <mrunagi> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | re-align
[14:01] <ubotu> re-align: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:01] <mrunagi> gavo: then sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[14:01] <gavo> it appears that i have it already
[14:01] <mrunagi> gavo: good
[14:01] <gavo> "ntfs-3g is already the newest version"
[14:01] <mrunagi> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[14:02] <mrunagi> do you have an entry in there for your drive
[14:02] <gavo> yes i do
[14:02] <mrunagi> does it say ntfs or ntfs-3g
[14:03] <gavo> i can see them because of their drive allocation numbers, not the drive labels
[14:03] <gavo> ntfs
[14:03] <mrunagi> is it internal or external
[14:03] <gavo> internal
[14:03] <gavo> its actually 3 partitions on the same HDD
[14:03] <mrunagi> UUID=E87CDBA97CDB70B4 /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[14:03] <mrunagi> mimic that
[14:03] <mrunagi> do yo uknow the uuid?
[14:04] <gavo> no sorry    i dont     is that the device id?
[14:04] <romunov> nosrednaekim: thanks about the LAMP thingy
[14:04] <re-align> Right, that's running now. Strange thing is, I've had this problem since install and don't recall any of the frontends crashing (except when I try to have them autofix the problem).
[14:04] <mrunagi> !uuid
[14:04] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> re-align» hum... who knows :)
[14:06] <re-align> Usually when I click on No (to not have it autofix and operate in 'read only mode') it will operate normally.
[14:07] <re-align> That seems to have fixed it, thanks.
[14:08] <re-align> Now, maybe I can get it to install mtp-tools...
[14:09] <mrunagi> gavo you still here?
[14:18] <swatto> anyone know how i can check if compiz is working correctly
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> swatto» either compiz is working or its not :)
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> swatto» and you should be able to tell quite easily
[14:20] <swatto> well ive got the advanced desktop settings thingy