[00:00] <nacc> urgodfather: yes, but it is in 16.04
[00:00] <nacc> birkoff: it is released and that makes it as stable as anything else released. It is not an LT
[00:00] <urgodfather> nacc: you are correct my friend
[00:00] <urgodfather> thank you!
[00:01] <nacc> urgodfather: np, aiui, mythbuntu was just an ISO version of some of the default packages
[00:02] <nacc> urgodfather: the mythbuntu ppa also is still maintained, afaict
[00:02] <urgodfather> thats good to know
[00:03] <urgodfather> microshitheads fubared my htpc
[00:03] <urgodfather> microsoft*
[00:03] <urgodfather> so... now im on the mission to rebuild
[00:04] <urgodfather> preferably backend and frontend on the same machine but for some reason i remember having problems with it long term
[00:37] <urgodfather> how do i list pcie devices
[00:37] <urgodfather> looks like i have to track down how to get my tuner working
[00:37] <bcowan> urgodfather, lspci
[00:37] <urgodfather> thats what i thought
[00:37] <urgodfather> im used to using grep
[00:38] <bcowan> urgodfather, lspci -k | grep blahh
[00:39] <urgodfather> hmm.... according to linuxtv my card has been supported by linux for years
[01:58] <n35xdxb0> i have a basic function like    https://pastebin.com/YhKg70bV    with allwos me to select files and then open one with default editor by entering a number. only issue is i can't get make it scrollable with more or less. i''ve tried adding   | less   at the end, to no effect. any ideas?
[02:29] <norsu> Hi all! Ubuntu Mate: is there any way to enable a search function like in macOS: cmd + space or Windows with the windows key? I can find the MATE Search Tool but it isn't quite the same thing. Usually I like to launch software with that macOS cmd + space style
[02:30] <Lehthanis> evening!  Anyone here know anything about ajenti?
[03:01] <doug16k> norsu, like alt+f2?
[03:05] <tgm4883> norsu: there is synapse
[03:36] <norsu> doug16k: ok yes that is the MATE Search Tool but just is a bit klunky compared to macOS or Win version of the ~same thing
[03:37] <doug16k> I guess you are running mate then. this is #ubuntu so I assumed you were using unity
[03:38] <doug16k> mint*
[03:39] <doug16k> there's a ubuntu mate? ok :)
[03:39] <doug16k> I'm a defaults guy
[03:39] <doug16k> ain't broke and all that
[04:01] <no_wee_fee> Hello. I'm stuck. Last 1.5 yrs running Ubuntu. Never an issue....
[04:02] <no_wee_fee> My wifi is dead now. Just won't connect to any network. Spins, times out, then disconnects.
[04:02] <no_wee_fee> I've been troubleshooting on the ubuntu network troubleshooter, but no leads.
[04:02] <no_wee_fee> Any help on here tonight?
[04:03] <nickgarvey> no_wee_fee: can you pastebin the output of "sudo dmesg | tail -n50" ? let me know if you need help doing that
[04:04] <no_wee_fee> Sure thing. Here you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25690273/
[04:06] <nickgarvey> hm nothing stands out. can you try to connect again, and then re-run that command and pastebin it? that way I can see what logs are generated when you run it by comparing it against what you just sent me
[04:08] <no_wee_fee_> sorry! I saw where you were going so I disconnected the LAN and tried connecting to wifi to generate more dmesg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25690301/
[04:09] <no_wee_fee_> eh
[04:09] <no_wee_fee_> [ sorry! I saw where you were going so I disconnected the LAN and tried connecting to wifi to generate more dmesg: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25690301/
[04:10] <nickgarvey> okay perfect. I see line 39 of that paste and I'm trying to understand what "Reason 2" means
[04:11] <nickgarvey> I know the disconnect was line 39 because of the timestamps - there is a jump in time from 38 to 39. I will look now to figure out what that mysterious 2 is :)
[04:12] <no_wee_fee_> nichttps://supportforums.cisco.com/t5/wireless-mobility-documents/802-11-association-status-802-11-deauth-reason-codes/ta-p/3148055
[04:12] <no_wee_fee_> here are some deauth codes from Cisco. Wonder if this helps
[04:12] <no_wee_fee_> "2	Previous authentication no longer valid	NOT SUPPORTED" ??
[04:13] <nickgarvey> no_wee_fee_: I see some people who had the same issue and resolved it this way: https://askubuntu.com/a/689492
[04:13] <nickgarvey> basically it seems it might be related to some ipv6 settings that you don't likely need. try disabling them and then trying. I doubt you need to reboot but it won't hurt if it doesn't work without it
[04:16] <no_wee_fee_> nickgarvey: I already have IPv6 disabled. I can't remember how I did it though (was a long time ago). I'll read through the post you recommended (lots of info!) and let the room know what I find.
[04:16] <no_wee_fee_> Thanks for that killer dmesg debug command!
[04:18] <nickgarvey> sounds good, good luck! :)
[04:23] <xorpad> how can I enable colors in bash? is it a compile time option or is there a setting?
[04:23] <nickgarvey> xorpad: what kind of colors? do you mean for ls in particular?
[04:24] <xorpad> I mean for the bash shell
[04:24] <xorpad> My rapsberry pi running ubuntu is monochromatic in every terminal
[04:24] <nickgarvey> what component of the shell? do you mean your prompt? the output of particular commands?
[04:25] <xorpad> basically, when I use ubuntu on my pc the text is color coded to a certain extent and is not on the pi
[04:26] <nickgarvey> can you send a picture of what you mean? there are different settings for different colors and I want to make sure I suggest the right thing for you
[04:28] <xorpad> I don't have one
[04:29] <xorpad> I currently don't have any shells open with color in them
[04:29] <nickgarvey> xorpad: okay. I think what you are really looking for is "dircolors". search around for how to set that up and that might do it for you
[04:29] <nickgarvey> let me know if you have any questions on it, happy to help
[04:30] <xorpad> dircolors sounds like a term for what I'm looking for
[04:31] <xorpad> thank you much sir
[04:54] <no_wee_fee> hello nickgarvey: no go buddy. disabling ipv6 on each wifi connection in NM did not solve the issue.
[04:54] <no_wee_fee> Any further ideas?
[04:56] <no_wee_fee> The "reason 2" according to the Cisco site said "prior authentication no longer valid"
[04:57] <no_wee_fee> If I run `nmcli dev`during the handshake, it yields this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25690443/
[04:57] <no_wee_fee> WHich is quite interesting. Its like my network manager is not prompting me for credentials nor using any I might have stored.
[04:58] <no_wee_fee> I recently deleted all stored wifi networks in NM. This is around the time everything started happening.
[04:58] <nickgarvey> no_wee_fee: hm. I found the same thing - reason 2 means it's an authentication issue
[04:59] <no_wee_fee> yep. so why isn't NM prompting me for creds?
[04:59] <nickgarvey> I would experiment with different WiFi security settings and see if you make progress, but I'm just guessing on this
[04:59] <nickgarvey> see if you can manually force a particular authentication (that hopefully matches the right one!) and see if that gives you a prompt
[04:59] <no_wee_fee> hm. ok. maybe i'll reinstall NM as well.
[05:06] <no_wee_fee_> nickgarvey: just disabled wifi authentication altogether and still same issue.
[05:16] <no_wee_fee_> hello. Any wifi gurus in here?
[05:16] <no_wee_fee_> I am articulate :) and have a baffling issue
[05:17] <no_wee_fee_> Check out the results of `nmcli -s a` and `sudo dmesg | tail -n100`: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25690511/
[05:18] <no_wee_fee_> By the way, these two commands in conjunction can do a lot!! for wifi troubleshooting!!
[05:19] <no_wee_fee_> During this time, my wifi icon just spins, spins, then times out and says "disconnected"
[05:19] <no_wee_fee_> I've deleted all profiles in Network Manager so each connection should prompt me for a password, but it doesn't.
[05:20] <no_wee_fee_> I don't know if you see that "Reason 2" on line 36 and 101, but looking it up here: https://supportforums.cisco.com/t5/wireless-mobility-documents/802-11-association-status-802-11-deauth-reason-codes/ta-p/3148055 yeilds very little
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> no_wee_fee_: try to compact your issue with details
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> no_wee_fee_: ubuntu version? kernel? wifi chipset?
[05:27] <arunkumar413> Hi All
[05:27] <arunkumar413> I'm trying to login to root shell through recovery mode
[05:27] <arunkumar413> Could you please help
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: morning :p
[05:28] <no_wee_fee_> lotuspsychje: sure thing! https://paste.ubuntu.com/25690557/
[05:28] <cfhowlett> hey ^3 lotuspsychje!
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> no_wee_fee_: and your problem is?
[05:29] <no_wee_fee_> Check out the results of `nmcli -s a` and `sudo dmesg | tail -n100`: https://paste.ubuntu.com/25690511/
[05:29] <no_wee_fee_> Wifi will not connect to a wifi connection it ALWAYS had connected to before.
[05:30] <no_wee_fee_> Wifi icon just spins, spins, then times out and shows "disconnected" icon
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> no_wee_fee_: did you try boot an older kernel?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> no_wee_fee_: and what about on 16.04.2 did it work properly then?
[05:31] <no_wee_fee_> I have never tried that before. I usually issue that one "autoclean" command to keep my boot partition small
[05:31] <no_wee_fee_> lotuspsychje: it might have. I've been doing loads of things with the laptop lately. Not sure which "thing" changed
[05:31] <cfhowlett> no_wee_fee_, autoremove should reatain at least 1 old kernel
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> no_wee_fee_: another thing to try is a clean liveusb test your wifi
[05:32] <arunkumar413> My ubuntu 16.04 is broken.
[05:33] <cfhowlett> arunkumar413, no details = no answers
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !details
[05:33] <no_wee_fee_> lotuspsychje: thats a good idea. I did turn authentication off on the router and it still had the same problem.
[05:33] <arunkumar413> GUI is broken. Need to drop in to root shell n install the correct graphic driver
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: what graphics card?
[05:34] <arunkumar413> AMD
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: ubuntu version?
[05:35] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MjgzjrWk/irccloudcapture854633691.jpg
[05:35] <arunkumar413>  16.04
[05:36] <arunkumar413> Just shared the screen shot of lspci
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: what did you do to get there? ubuntu should be installing fine on that card
[05:37] <no_wee_fee_> lotuspsychje: spun up a tails live usb. will try booting to that and testing wifi. thank you very much for the idea.
[05:38] <arunkumar413> Dropped into rootshell through recovery mode
[05:38] <arunkumar413> Yesterday we installed a wrong driver by mistake
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: what driver?
[05:39] <arunkumar413> Amdgpu
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: sudo apt purge your-wrong-driver
[05:40] <arunkumar413> We were able to remove it. But couldn't install the correct driver due to network issue. Now i connected the Ethernet cable to the laptop
[05:41] <arunkumar413> Unable to bring up the WiFi in root shell
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> cable to the rescue arunkumar413
[05:42] <arunkumar413> What should i do now to connect to the Ethernet
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: plug in the cable and recoverymode with network enabled
[05:43] <arunkumar413> In rootshell now
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: ubuntu-drivers should show you your available drivers list
[05:44] <arunkumar413> Not showing
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: ubuntu-drivers --list  perhaps
[05:45] <arunkumar413> No it's not working
[05:45] <arunkumar413> First lets bring up the eth0 interfce
[05:45] <arunkumar413> Ifconfig eth0 up is not working
[05:49] <arunkumar413> these are the options in recovery menu https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OKMVH12Y/irccloudcapture-577487288.jpg
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: enable network
[05:50] <arunkumar413> How?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: check your screen, it says enable network right
[05:50] <arunkumar413> I only know a few basic commands. I'm not a pro
[05:51] <arunkumar413> Did that
[05:51] <arunkumar413> Nothing happens
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: ok now goto rootshell again
[05:51] <arunkumar413> Ok. In rootshell now
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> and do your thing
[05:52] <arunkumar413> it now shows three interfaces https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/gnd6YM1w/irccloudcapture-352948033.jpg
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: ubuntu-drivers --list
[05:54] <arunkumar413> This command isn't working
[05:54] <cfhowlett> is this a laptop?  any chance you hit the kill wifi button?
[05:54] <arunkumar413> it says some commands are required https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2bC45PCE/irccloudcapture668788159.jpg
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: ubuntu-drivers list
[05:55] <cfhowlett> www.google.com
[05:55] <arunkumar413> Yes it's a laptop. I didn't hit the WiFi button
[05:59] <arunkumar413> do you think it's connected to internet https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NewuYpd9/irccloudcapture-1220279339.jpg
[05:59] <arunkumar413> I ran ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:00] <yookoala> Hello. Is there anyone here who understand how the display stack in Linux works?
[06:00] <Ben64> best to ask your actual question
[06:01] <yookoala> What is the difference between Xorg and tty console in handling screen output?
[06:03] <yookoala> I met a bug in Ubuntu where it logs me off every time I turn off a screen. But if I switch to tty console first, I can evade the bug.
[06:03] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje: are u there?
[06:03] <yookoala> The bug only affect me in Gnome shell
[06:03] <yookoala> What package could be responsible?
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: ubuntu-drivers list
[06:05] <arunkumar413> Amd64-microcode
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> yookoala: yoir on 17.10?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: try ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[06:10] <arunkumar413> It's not connected to internet
[06:13] <arunkumar413> this is what happen after running auto install drivers https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zYnzrLUG/irccloudcapture-1588020431.jpg
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: how about sudo apt purge amdgpu, as that made you get black screen
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> arunkumar413: by default system should use radeon
[06:18] <arunkumar413> these are the graphic cards on my system https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MiWtkAnl/irccloudcapture1080904592.jpg
[06:18] <arunkumar413> One seem to be built in priocessor n the other is external
[06:20] <arunkumar413> First help me connect to internet. Then we can resolve the graphic drivrr issue
[06:37] <arunkumar413> ??
[06:38] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje: ??
[06:40] <yookoala> question: Is there anyway I can setup Unifont as the console font in tty? I tried "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" but the font, even is installed in /usr/share/consolefonts directory, is not available for selection.
[06:41] <ducasse> yookoala: which release is this?
[06:41] <yookoala> Does it matter?
[06:41] <ducasse> yes.
[06:41] <yookoala> (17.10)
[06:41] <ducasse> ok, ask in #ubuntu+1, then
[06:43] <yookoala> What if I were in 17.04?
[06:43] <yookoala> (I also have 17.04 machine)
[06:44] <ducasse> we don't do "what if" here.
[06:51] <arunkumar413> lotuspsychje: Are you there
[07:00] <arunkumar413> ??
[07:08] <arunkumar413> anybody help plz
[07:27] <arunkumar413> ?
[07:30] <no_wee_fee> hello! I'm seriously stuck here. No wifi working for last two days. Any wifi gurus out there? : https://paste.ubuntu.com/25690988/
[07:34] <no_wee_fee> all other computers connect to router just fine. This computer will not connect to ANY wifi for some reason. Only LAN
[07:43] <GWM> ...pressed a possible hardware button for wifi off?
[07:43] <GWM> if it's a laptop
[07:48] <ducasse> according to rfkill it's not blocked and it can see the ap's around it, so probably not
[08:01] <gulzar> I am on Ubuntu 16.04 with KDE plasma DE. Android 6 MTP SD card is not allowing me to paste from PC. I am paste files into one folder but not all. What can be the issue?
[08:24] <Cat_BPRM> h
[08:24] <Cat_BPRM> Hello i have a number of issues, first: o'm on a laptop and i cantget the battery icon to show in the top right
[08:43] <arunkumar413> Able to connect to internet fro command line
[08:43] <arunkumar413> Now want to intall the graphic drivers
[08:47] <Sterist> could running these commands with hard drive installation cause further problems or is it best to do it from a live cd?
[08:47] <Sterist> http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[08:52] <Mathisen> Sterist, does not mather
[08:52] <Sterist> absolutely certain? :)
[08:52] <Mathisen> as long as you can chroot into the correct install you work from hd anyway
[08:57] <Mathisen> Sterist, you do got more then one install right ?
[08:57] <Mathisen> Sterist, just so you understand that chroot = jumps into other install
[08:57] <Mathisen> so if you trying to repair your current install you doing this from you dont need to do that
[08:59] <Sterist> so skip chroot command?
[09:00] <Mathisen> Sterist, lets just start from start ;) what issue do you got on your current install
[09:00] <Sterist> I have win7 and ubuntu 17.04 nothing else (yet)
[09:01] <Sterist> when I boot I get thrown into grub rescue
[09:01] <Mathisen> ok so you can only boot live now then ?
[09:01] <Sterist> I turned off swap, commented it out, deleted the partition, and that caused the sda numbers to shift
[09:02] <Sterist> no, I know the commands to temporarily set grub to look to the right partition
[09:02] <Sterist> but I cannot for the life of me get it to STAY that way (-_-)
[09:03] <Sterist> swap was sda5, root sda6, home sda7
[09:04] <Mathisen> Sterist, sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:04] <Sterist> deleting 5 turned 6 into 5 and 7 into 6, but grub still sniffing out sda6
[09:04] <Sterist> one moment :)
[09:06] <Sterist> I've ran mkconfig before as well as grub update, did not fix anything.
[09:07] <Sterist> is this supposed to do something different from the naked command
[09:07] <Mathisen> is your fstab messed upp also if drive letter switched ?
[09:07] <Mathisen> nano /etc/fstab
[09:07] <Mathisen> make em correct if they are wrong
[09:07] <Sterist> drive letters I'm fairly confident are untouched, should be just partition numbers
[09:09] <Sterist> it still shows sda5 as swap, but, also commented out.
[09:09] <Sterist> in fstab
[09:09] <ducasse> fstab probably uses uuid if it's still default
[09:09] <Sterist> and the original sda6 and 7
[09:10] <Sterist> though they are now sda5 and 6
[09:10] <Mathisen> hmm
[09:10] <Mathisen> does ubuntu got gen-fstab command in repo ? im not an ubuntu user :)
[09:10] <Sterist> and I do see uuid mentioned for each.
[09:11] <Sterist> haven't a clue. I can guess that's "generate fstab" but the vast majority of commands I do not know til I've needed to learn about them.
[09:12] <akik> previously when i've removed partitions in fdisk, the other partitions have kept their partition numbers
[09:12] <Sterist> if you remove a partition at the end, they will remain the same
[09:13] <Sterist> if you remove one anywhere else, all others after it will shift backwards one number
[09:14] <arunkumar413> Command to install the Radeon driver
[09:14] <Sterist> sorry my IRC client freaked. disconnected almost immediately after my previous message.
[09:15] <Mathisen> Sterist, you missed nothing, new
[09:16] <Mathisen> Sterist, what did grub-mkconfig command output look like can you pastebin it
[09:16] <Sterist> IRC is on my phone, different devices
[09:17] <Mathisen> well did it find correct entrys then ?
[09:18] <Sterist> not sure I know enough about what I'm looking at to determine what's correct and not
[09:18] <Sterist> but...
[09:19] <Sterist> I do see lots of msdos5 throughout it, and not msdos6
[09:19] <Mathisen> try to see if it worked then reboot
[09:19] <Sterist> seems to suggest it's correct but it was like this last time too when I rebooted.
[09:20] <alkisg> Sterist: what's the output of `sudo sfdisk --dump /dev/sda; cat /etc/fstab`?
[09:21] <tomreyn> Sterist: compare the uuids in /etc/fstab to those provided by: lsblk -fs
[09:21] <Sterist> which of these should I do first (0_o)
[09:21] <alkisg> They are basically the same thing, do mine
[09:21] <alkisg> As it has more info
[09:21] <Mathisen> your fstab needs to be correct do do what tomreyn said
[09:23] <Sterist> command sounds dangerous, is that making a log file overwriting my client fstab..?
[09:23] <Sterist> current**
[09:23] <alkisg> No, they are read-only commands, they don't modify anything
[09:23] <alkisg> dump means "display all info in text mode"
[09:25] <Sterist> I see all partitions sda1 thru 6, lacking 4 probably because it's an extended that contains everything that is and was ubuntu related
[09:25] <alkisg> Can you put the result to pastebin?
[09:25] <alkisg> !paste
[09:25] <Sterist> different devices. an extra hurdle. hang on
[09:27] <Sterist> paste.ubuntu.com/25691414
[09:28] <Sterist> what's my prognosis doc ;(
[09:29] <alkisg> Sterist: sorry, sfdisk in msdos partition tables doesn't list the uuid, so please also upload the output of `lsblk --fs` as tomreyn said
[09:29] <alkisg> sudo lsblk --fs
[09:29]  * alkisg was using sfdisk in gpt disk...
[09:31] <tomreyn> just one dash, though
[09:32] <tomreyn> lsblk -fs
[09:32] <tomreyn> sudo not needed
[09:32] <alkisg> The new style with two, the old with one...
[09:32] <Sterist> paste.ubuntu.com/25691431
[09:32] <alkisg> Sudo is needed when the partitions aren't mounted
[09:32] <Sterist> and I used 2 dashes :)
[09:33] <alkisg> Sterist: all seem fine, so just run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc` and select "sda" as the boot device
[09:34] <Sterist> that's the magic command I've been hunting for? could it be? :D
[09:34] <alkisg> Haha
[09:34] <alkisg> You'll tell us after reboot :)
[09:34] <Sterist> I shall screenshot the shit out of it.
[09:35] <Sterist> quiet_splash leave it alone?
[09:35] <alkisg> Yes
[09:35] <alkisg> Just enter there
[09:36] <alkisg> You can also use tab and space for navigation of buttons and check boxes etc, when needed
[09:37] <Sterist> I'm at an info screen and it kinda seems as if the terminal has hanged
[09:37] <alkisg> Wait 30 secs, then press enter
[09:37] <alkisg> If you don't see a prompt then... tell us
[09:37] <ducasse> alkisg: btw, the uuids you get with gpt tables are not filesystem uuids but partition uuids - often listed as 'partuuid'
[09:38] <Sterist> ram appears completely full. half consumed by cache
[09:39] <alkisg> ducasse: thanks, I saw 2 things there and I thought it included both partuuid and uuid, but no, it was "type" and partuuid
[09:39] <alkisg> I was looking for a command that would list partition order as well, since lsblk and blkid don't
[09:39] <Sterist> cpu almost completely idle, virtually 0 read or write activity, and terminal still not acknowledging my input
[09:39] <alkisg> But in this case 2 commands were needed for full info
[09:40] <Sterist> I got it. had to use tab key to highlight OK
[09:40] <alkisg> Sterist: what's the last message that dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc produced?
[09:40] <alkisg> Eh :)
[09:40] <alkisg> (12:36:21 μμ) alkisg: You can also use tab and space for navigation of buttons and check boxes etc, when needed
[09:41] <alkisg> Sterist: remember to check sda, not e.g. sda5
[09:42] <Sterist> rebooting.
[09:42] <Sterist> bingo!
[09:42] <alkisg> Yey! Note down the magic command! :D
[09:43] <Sterist> and as your reward, I have another problem for ya ;)
[09:43] <alkisg> Hahaha
[09:43] <Sterist> software center won't load nada
[09:43]  * alkisg is using synaptic since software center is no longer developed
[09:43] <Sterist> just shows categories without images
[09:43] <alkisg> ...and gnome software isn't yet ready
[09:44] <Sterist> it was working 2 days ago then poof :(
[09:44] <alkisg> Run it from terminal and pastebin the output
[09:46] <Sterist> not quite sure how to run from terminal
[09:46] <alkisg> As I'm not sure which software center you're running, run `ps aux| grep soft` and see the command
[09:46] <alkisg> It might be gnome-software or software-center etc
[09:47] <alkisg> Also, I'll go afk for a while, so maybe someone else can help you on that one...
[09:50] <Sterist> I see /usr/bin/gnome-software --gapplication-service
[09:55] <razorsharpfang> How does one tell ubuntu to not shut down a network interface on system restart?
[09:56] <arunkumar413> How to install Radeon graphic driver on Ubuntu 16.04 from command line
[09:58] <razorsharpfang> Mostly I'm just sick of configuring the network interface every time the system restarts and want to save its configuration.
[09:59] <Sterist> unfortunately I don't have the knowledge on how to do so but you could create a script to do it upon reboot
[10:00] <razorsharpfang> See, I have two interfaces and only ONE of them loses configuration.
[10:00] <RonaldsMazitis> clamscan -r --bell -i /home/username /home/username/clamav2.log
[10:01] <RonaldsMazitis> is already running 15 mins
[10:01] <RonaldsMazitis> no results
[10:01] <RonaldsMazitis> should I wait for it to finish
[10:01] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: radeon is an open source driver, if you have matching hardware and no /etc/xorg.conf (and did not change / have changed files in /usr/share/X11/ ) it should get loaded automatically.
[10:02] <RonaldsMazitis> my pc thinks crtl is pressed sometimes, when it's not
[10:02] <razorsharpfang> Oh man, could be a keyboard problem.
[10:02] <RonaldsMazitis> the button seems fine
[10:02] <tomreyn> razorsharpfang: configure them either using network-manager (using it's GUI, UI (nmtui) or CLI (nmcli)) or /etc/network/interfaces
[10:03] <razorsharpfang> tomreyn: Is ifconfig not going to save its changes?
[10:03] <tomreyn> razorsharpfang: no, never did.
[10:03] <razorsharpfang> hoho, that explains that.
[10:04] <razorsharpfang> tomreyn: I like how the file tells you how to get help on it inside it.
[10:05] <googl3> i insert usb card, but where i can find it?
[10:06] <tomreyn> googl3: does the temrinal command "lsusb" list it?
[10:10] <arunkumar413> tomreyn: amd64-microcode is the drivrr in use
[10:10] <arunkumar413> My laptop is a hybrid configuration
[10:11] <arunkumar413> It has a built-in graphic card and an external graphic card
[10:11] <arunkumar413> Also how to know which graphic driver is in use?
[10:13] <arunkumar413> tomreyn: seems like radeon driver has a problem https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5Is22Rlp/irccloudcapture-2093793249.jpg
[10:13] <alkisg> `lspci -nn -k | grep -A 3 VGA` tells you hardware, drivers in use etc
[10:14] <googl3> tomreyn: i have no idea, because there is a very strange name
[10:16] <arunkumar413> alkisg: Radeon seem to be loaded but not used
[10:16] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jjyt6hTt/irccloudcapture494007728.jpg
[10:17] <Sterist> any idea why Gparted is seen as newest version at 0.25.0-1 when that version is pre- 2017
[10:17] <arunkumar413> Ububtu-drivers devices command returns amd64-microcode
[10:18] <ducasse> arunkumar413: amd64-microcode is not a graphics driver, it's microcode updates for your processor
[10:19] <ducasse> Sterist: which release are you on?
[10:19] <Sterist> 17.04
[10:19] <ducasse> !info gparted zesty
[10:19] <Sterist> I see live discs go up to 0.31+
[10:19] <arunkumar413> ducasse:
[10:20] <arunkumar413> But I don't know why laptop freezes at login screen
[10:20] <ducasse> !latest | Sterist see this
[10:20] <arunkumar413> I thought it to be a graphic driver issue
[10:20] <Sterist> dang. guess I have to do a live disc :( current version refuses to shrink ext4
[10:21] <ducasse> use resize2fs
[10:22] <Sterist> I'm really not the terminal-savvy type. not enough to mess with partitions through it
[10:22] <ducasse> there might also be a later gparted available in a ppa
[10:23] <Sterist> arunkumar413 I don't know if you have already, but go in Software Updater, click Settings, Additional Drivers, wait for it to load and select the proprietary driver if it isn't
[10:23] <arunkumar413> Sterist: i can pass the login screen
[10:23] <arunkumar413> It stucks
[10:24] <Sterist> were you able to before?
[10:24] <arunkumar413> I'm in root shell now through recovery mode
[10:24] <Sterist> but were you ever able to log in since installing
[10:24] <arunkumar413> Installing what?
[10:24] <Sterist> ubuntu...
[10:25] <arunkumar413> Yes
[10:26] <ducasse> and what has changed?
[10:27] <arunkumar413> I  installed the amdgpu driver but it didn't improve the performance. So removed it.
[10:27] <Sterist> I was going to say if you haven't ever been able to log in, reinstall AFTER hitting Try Ubuntu and selecting the proprietary driver, but that wouldn't apply here I guess
[10:28] <arunkumar413> Now i can't go past the login screen. It freezes after few cursor blinks in the user name field
[10:28] <Sterist> maybe your session needs to be wiped? I'm out of ideas already ;(
[10:29] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: do you have things like "nomodeset", "radeon.modeset=0", "options radeon modeset=0" in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[10:29] <arunkumar413> Lemme check
[10:29] <ducasse> or is radeon blacklisted?
[10:30] <arunkumar413> How do i chec these. I'm not pro with commands
[10:30] <EriC^^> arunkumar413: try "cat /proc/cmdline | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:31] <ducasse> arunkumar413: 'grep radeon /etc/modprobe.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999'
[10:32] <tomreyn> most likely, your issue is that the changes made suring the amdgpu driver installation (how did you install it?)  were not fully reversed.
[10:32] <arunkumar413> I got the result a website link
[10:33] <tomreyn> post the website link here
[10:33] <arunkumar413> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GPalb9LT/irccloudcapture1928562758.jpg
[10:34] <arunkumar413> http://termbin.com/qitg
[10:35] <Sterist> can anyone recommend a good disc burn app? :)
[10:35] <EriC^^> Sterist: k3b is supposed to be very good
[10:36] <ducasse> Sterist: for cd/dvd? for a very simple one with few dependencies, xfburn.
[10:36] <Sterist> I'll check it out now. thanks
[10:36] <arunkumar413> tomreyn: http://termbin.com/qitg
[10:36] <Sterist> I used to use xfburn but recently it seems to lack features it had before
[10:37] <ducasse> Sterist: if you're in a gnome/gtk-based environment, you might want to try brasero to avoid pulling in half the kde stack with k3b
[10:38] <Sterist> I've already started k3b installation =/
[10:38] <ducasse> :)
[10:39] <arunkumar413> tomreyn: any ideas
[10:41] <Sterist> k3b does have some funky behavior but.. appears to work
[10:42] <arunkumar413> tomreyn: as per the output it sesms that they're blacklisted
[10:44] <Doc-Saintly> I'm copying a file and it gets stuck at 594.2 of 647.5 GB
[10:44] <Doc-Saintly> It gets the error splicing file error, but the source and destination are ext4. It's a brand new destination drive.
[10:44] <Doc-Saintly> any ideas?
[10:48] <ducasse> arunkumar413: nope, what we were looking for was 'blacklist radeon', not radeonfb
[10:48] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: sorry, i got a little busy here, but will try to help when i can. the radeonfb blacklist lines are fine, this is not the radeon module
[10:49] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: so the radeon module is not blacklisted. is it loaded? run: lsmod | grep radeon
[10:50] <arunkumar413> No output
[10:51] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: what happens when you: sudo modprobe radeon
[10:52] <arunkumar413> Invalid argument
[10:52] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: did you mistype it?
[10:53] <arunkumar413> No
[10:54] <arunkumar413> It says couldn' insert Radeon : invalid argument
[10:54] <arunkumar413> Should r be capital?
[10:55] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: no, did i type a capital?
[10:56] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: which uubntu release are you on, which kernel version are you running? lsb_release -sd; cat /proc/version
[10:57] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: and does using a lower case 'r' in "lsmod | grep radeon" output anything?
[10:59] <arunkumar413> tomreyn:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YQNzZxQJ/irccloudcapture-562244043.jpg
[11:01] <baxx>  i'm going to reformat my current setup and reinstall, but I have windows on this as well at the moment. I have these partitions : https://image.ibb.co/eppVYw/image.png  , I'm not too sure which are actually linux and which are windows though. I would guess that the windows partitions are /dev/sda1 , through to /dev/sda4 , is that right?
[11:04] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: okay let's see if you have those options i mentioned earlier in grub.cfg
[11:04] <arunkumar413> How
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:05] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: hi
[11:05] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: grep -i modeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:05] <BluesKaj> hi arunkumar413
[11:07] <arunkumar413> tomreyn:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7DW9fq8K/irccloudcapture-1434531736.jpg
[11:07] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: still struggling with the graphic driver issue
[11:07] <arunkumar413> Remember yesterday we removed the amdgpu driver
[11:08] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, the only suggestion zI have is install the radeon driver
[11:08] <arunkumar413> Now the Radeon doesn't seems to habet rolled back properly.
[11:08] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: hmm so you don't have any leftovers *there*, but still the 'radeon' module fails to load at boot because it tries to start in user mode setting instead of kernel mode setting. you will need to find out why it does this and reverse this.
[11:09] <arunkumar413> Ok. What should i do now
[11:09] <tomreyn> in the past, only user mode setting was supported, then both were supported for a while, nowadays only kernel mode setting (KMS) is supported.
[11:10] <akik> tomreyn: what is the user mode you mention?
[11:10] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: the key to this issue is in the output you posted here: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5Is22Rlp/irccloudcapture-2093793249.jpg
[11:11] <tomreyn> akik: i mean 'user space', not 'user' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_setting
[11:12] <akik> tomreyn: is that the reason nomodeset doesn't work with the intel gfx driver?
[11:12] <arunkumar413> Ok. Now what should i do
[11:13] <arunkumar413> Should i edit the grub.cfg   and set it to kernal mode?
[11:15] <lfowlr> today ubuntu sent some security updates , but ...
[11:15] <lfowlr> did it release the flaws too?
[11:16] <lfowlr> if it did, then it's a risk, as some users might updaate a day or two later?
[11:16] <lfowlr> so how often does ubuntu release security problems flaws
[11:16] <lfowlr> anyone ?
[11:17] <ducasse> !usn | lfowlr
[11:17] <lfowlr> yes, but does ubuntu release those flaws or not?
[11:18] <lfowlr> how quickly does it release
[11:18] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, I assume dkms installs automatically to build the amd driver
[11:18] <lfowlr> what's the grace period- ideally it should be at least 90 days from the known daate
[11:18] <arunkumar413> tomreyn: should i just system restore to solve the problem
[11:19] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: that's well possible. you mean fglrx?
[11:19] <ducasse> lfowlr: if you look at that link you can see exactly what ubuntu releases
[11:19] <lfowlr> but what's the grace period it doesn't say
[11:19] <tomreyn> akik: i don't think so. the "nomodeset" option still works.
[11:20] <BluesKaj> no tomreyn , any gpu driver
[11:20] <ducasse> lfowlr: what do you mean by that? the usn is released when the package is updated.
[11:22] <lfowlr> but what if I update my system a week later? is it insecure then
[11:22] <lfowlr> till then
[11:22] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: sorry i don't understand what you're saying, can you rephrase? are you saying that nomodeset never works as a kernel option nowadays?
[11:22] <lfowlr> as the exploit is released??
[11:22] <ducasse> lfowlr: your system is vulnerable until you update
[11:23] <ducasse> lfowlr: ubuntu doesn't release the exploit, they release the fix
[11:24] <akik> tomreyn: when i add "nomodeset", xorg switches to the vesa drivers and puts "(EE) No devices detected." into Xorg.0.log
[11:24] <akik> vesa driver
[11:24] <tomreyn> akik: right, so this kernel option is functional
[11:25] <akik> tomreyn: what i mean is that it disables the i915 driver
[11:25] <tomreyn> akik: i would expect i915 to only support KMS on all supported ubuntu releases
[11:28] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: if, by "system restore", you refer to restoring backups, that's an option. if, however, you are referring to the windows functionality of this name, this won't magically fix / restore your ubuntu configuration.
[11:30] <lfowlr> ducasse: ones the fix is release- the source code where the error is - is knownj- because that's where the fix is
[11:30] <lfowlr> and that's the place too look for the exploit
[11:31] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, nomodeset should still work afaik , but in some case dkms fails to build the gpu driver before nomodeset is even looked at
[11:31] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: i suggest you work thorugh this paragraph: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx
[11:31] <arunkumar413> How about re installing the whole kernal or modules
[11:31] <ducasse> lfowlr: you still need to know how to _use_ the exploit etc
[11:32] <ducasse> lfowlr: anyway, this is really not on-topic here
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> lfowlr  type   /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:41] <tomreyn> arunkumar413: what i linked to will reinstall the relevant packages. the kernel isn't your issue.
[11:41] <lfowlr> how do I remove a ppa,?
[11:41] <tomreyn> !ppapurge | lfowlr
[11:41] <lfowlr> remove a ppa package and also other installed packages
[11:41] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, do you have separate / (root) and /home partitions ?
[11:44] <tomreyn> lfowlr: i (and it seems others, too) would be happy to discuss the 'time to patch' / 'risk of disclosure' topic more in #ubuntu-offtopic if you're still interested. you don't seem to have the full picture there, yet. but since this is not strictly ubuntu support it's off-topic on *this* channel.
[11:45] <Doc-Saintly> I'm copying a file and it gets stuck at 594.2 of 647.5 GB. I get a splicing error at the same spot every time. It's a brand new drive. Both file systems are ext4. Any ideas?
[11:46] <arunkumar413> BluesKaj: no
[11:46] <arunkumar413> Only single partition
[11:48] <arunkumar413> tomreyn:  tried thr reinstall command it failed to fetch some urls
[11:49] <arunkumar413> tomreyn:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/gnQPxTbj/irccloudcapture-714514084.jpg
[11:51] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413, separate / and /home partitions has the advantage of doing an OS reinstall to / while merely having to set the moutpoint for /home thereby saving most of your settings and config files from the previous install
[11:51] <arunkumar413_> tomreyn: trying the commands in this link: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/368748/ubuntu-16-04-gui-freezes-on-login-start-page
[11:51] <RonaldsMazitis> how to run clamav so it gets locations of viruses
[11:51] <arunkumar413_> but unable to fetch the URLs
[11:52] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't seem to understand parameters it needs to have
[11:52] <BluesKaj> what viruses?
[11:52] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25692002/
[11:54] <BluesKaj> RonaldsMazitis, a runtime error is not a virus
[11:54] <arunkumar413_> seems like not connected to internet
[11:54] <RonaldsMazitis> it does not write where viruses are but says I have 6
[11:55] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't find right parameters to run clamav so it scans and actually writes where they are
[11:55] <RonaldsMazitis> who was the genius to make pointless scanning possible
[11:56] <Eduard_Munteanu> It's rather trivial to reinstall on a single partition while preserving /home, though. Not sure how easy that's with most installers, but it can be done.
[11:56] <BluesKaj> arunkumar413_, you need an ethernet connection
[11:57] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: did you look into clamav2.log? i don't see a mention of 6 viruses
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Eduard_Munteanu, never heard of such a method
[11:57] <RonaldsMazitis> yes, there is nothing
[11:57] <RonaldsMazitis> I once scanned clamscan -r /home/username
[11:57] <RonaldsMazitis> it said I have 6
[11:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> BluesKaj, you just delete everything but /home and reinstall without formatting the partition.
[11:58] <arunkumar413_> BluesKaj: yes
[11:58] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, search online for every item in your log, 9/10 it is a false positive
[11:58] <arunkumar413_> BluesKaj: ping  <IP_ADDRESS> is working
[11:58] <RonaldsMazitis> then I scanned clamscan -r /home/username /home/username/clamav2.log where it found all symlinks, empty files
[11:59] <RonaldsMazitis> but not the damn viruses
[11:59] <RonaldsMazitis> so I tried it again
[11:59] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: clamscan man page says that -i should show them
[11:59] <arunkumar413_> BluesKaj: but ping google.com is not working
[11:59] <RonaldsMazitis> then why it gives runtime error
[11:59] <RonaldsMazitis> running for hour taking almost 1gb of ram and giving out runtime error
[11:59] <RonaldsMazitis> perfect antivirus
[12:00] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, paste that log on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[12:01] <akik> RonaldsMazitis: clamscan seems to output found infected files on stdout
[12:01] <RonaldsMazitis> it is deleted
[12:01] <RonaldsMazitis> runtime error is all I got
[12:01] <oerheks> deleted .. and you claim symlinks ..
[12:02] <RonaldsMazitis> because I runned clamscan -r --bell -i /home/ronalds /home/ronalds/clamav2.log
[12:02] <RonaldsMazitis> what should I run
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Eduard_Munteanu, one ends up with 2 /home dirs with that method
[12:02] <RonaldsMazitis> damn stupd antivirus
[12:03] <PMunch> Hi, I have a bit of a technical problem. I've been running a small server from a Ubuntu server install for a while. Now the location where I've kept the server is going to be rebuilt so I've got nowhere to keep it. But I've been offered to virtualize the machine during this time. I've taken the drive and plugged it into my workstation and my initial idea was to simply shrink the partition and dd it over into an image. But the drive is partitioned as one
[12:03] <PMunch> simple boot partition, and one extended partition with a LVM partition that contained the data and a swap partition. I've deleted the swap partition and shrunk the data partition but I'm still stumped on how to shrink the physical volume down so I can dd the whole thing into an image..
[12:04] <tomreyn> arunkumar413_: "Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'" is often caused by an unstable internet connection.
[12:05] <tomreyn> arunkumar413_: apparently you already looked into this?
[12:05] <dah85> tomreyn, i've had it happen where the internet connection was solid, i found that choosing a direct mirror instead of going through archive.ubuntu.com helped
[12:05] <tomreyn> arunkumar413_: the stackexchange link you posted is not very likely to help you
[12:06] <arunkumar413_> tomreyn: i think the desktop is removed
[12:06] <tomreyn> dah85: it may also happen when the nameserver your system uses isn't working properly
[12:06] <arunkumar413_> when i ran the command   apt-get install ubuntu-desktop it installed the desktop
[12:07] <tomreyn> dah85: the approach you took may have (temporarily) worked around this.
[12:08] <dah85> tomreyn, correct, it's also likely to be cosmic radiation causing it too, but in 100% of the cases i've found with this, changing to something other than archive.ubuntu.com resolves the issue. happens on multiple machines, with multiple configs, using multiple connections.
[12:08] <arunkumar413_> tomreyn: on the desktop
[12:08] <arunkumar413_> now
[12:08] <arunkumar413_> hurray
[12:08] <tomreyn> arunkumar413_: ubuntu-desktop is an optional 'meta' package, which just ensures that you have everythign installed that's required for the default ubuntu desktop
[12:09] <tomreyn> dah85: i'm just saying it doesn't solve the issue, it just works around it. but for the average use case, that's probably good enough.
[12:09] <dah85> the issue seems to be with the archive.ubuntu.com server
[12:09] <tomreyn> arunkumar413_: very nice. so you actually had removed packages you shouldn't have removed.
[12:09] <arunkumar413_> i ran all the commands in this link https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/368748/ubuntu-16-04-gui-freezes-on-login-start-page and it worked
[12:10] <dah85> it's easily reproduced, when experiencing that issue, try resolving the ip from another device on another connection (ie a phone on cellular data) and it will also not resolve, try it from a vps in another country, same thing.
[12:10] <dah85> the ubuntu servers are out of our control, but deciding where to connect for packages is in our control, and we can change to an appropriate server.
[12:17] <baxx> what does it mean when it says a "package has been kept back" , ? After running some apt get
[12:17] <tomreyn> dah85: hmm, this is news to me, if you can reproduce this issue i bet canonical would appreciate debugging info on it, such as dig lookups against archive.ubuntu.com and ns1.canonical.com (maybe include dns lookup traces + traceroutes, too)
[12:17] <tomreyn> baxx: that it was not installed / upgraded for some reason.
[12:18] <dah85> tomreyn, i'll be sure to do that if/when it happens again
[12:19] <tomreyn> dah85: i suggest you talk to the handler on duty in #canonical-sysadmin on how to properly report it when it happens
[12:20] <dah85> suggestion noted, perhaps the person with the issue above could collect some information, it's not happening to me now and likely won't since i've changed to a local mirror.
[12:25] <hwpplayer1> Hi people i want to talk about some packages where should i talk that ubuntu freenode or here ? It is about quantum science packages
[12:25] <hwpplayer1> Hi people i want to talk about some packages where should i talk that ubuntu freenode or here ? It is about quantum science packages i write that on UbPorts Telegram group
[12:26] <hwpplayer1> Do we have source code communication channel ?
[12:27] <hwpplayer1> clear
[12:32] <oerheks> hwpplayer1, is that for ubports/phone?
[12:33] <hwpplayer1> oerheks : No not only for phone for all devices
[12:34] <oerheks> hwpplayer1, join #ubports for that?
[12:34] <hwpplayer1> oerheks : it is for ubuntu and for all free / open source communities
[12:35] <hwpplayer1> oerheks : there should be ubuntu science channel right ?
[12:35] <oerheks> hwpplayer1, not sure there is ..
[12:35] <oerheks> !alis
[12:36] <hwpplayer1> oerheks : there it is #ubuntu-science
[12:37] <hwpplayer1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[12:52] <Dreaman> flickering in Chrome on Ubuntu  problem
[12:52] <Dreaman> some paket to istall or
[12:52] <Dreaman> install
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Dreaman, check your OpenGL setting, change it to 3.1 if possible
[13:00] <ericus> what would you make of this? https://pastebin.com/gb3PmYG7
[13:00] <ericus> the later part
[13:01] <ericus> just a grub-update to fix it?
[13:03] <tomreyn> ericus: fix what?
[13:04] <tomreyn> ericus: this output looks fine / normal as long as you have another kernel image installed (and configured to be bootable)
[13:04] <ericus> line 77-82
[13:04] <pankaj> While installing a package via aptitude 'aptitude search package_name
[13:05] <pankaj> While installing a package via aptitude 'aptitude search package_name' I saw three symbols listed 'i', 'p', and 'v'. I know of 'i' but what does the rest means.
[13:05] <tomreyn> ericus: this warning is to be expected if you removed all but one kernel images.
[13:07] <ericus> okay thanks
[13:11] <oerheks>  p= no trace of the package exists on the system c = deleted  i = installed  v = meaning that the package is virtual.
[13:12] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/aptitude.html
[13:14] <onio> Hi I was wondering if anyone can help with sfdisk
[13:15] <hwpplayer1> what is sfdisk ?
[13:15] <alkisg> !ask
[13:15] <hwpplayer1> sfdisk - display or manipulate a disk partition table
[13:16] <onio> command line tool for creating partitions on sdcard
[13:16] <tomreyn> onio: is this a statement, a question, or...?
[13:17] <qqqwxlea> anybody have any success running gnome-music on 17.10 beta?
[13:17] <hwpplayer1> onio : only for sd cards ?
[13:17] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | qqqwxlea
[13:17] <qqqwxlea> moving to ubuntu+1
[13:18] <onio> tomreyn not a statement I am trying to compare the result I am getting when using gparted with sfdisk
[13:20] <onio> when I issue the following command "sfdisk /dev/mmcblk0 << EOF ,64,0x0c,* ,1024,L, EOF
[13:20] <pankaj> oerheks: What does the 'p' means
[13:20] <onio> I get the following /dev/mmcblk0p1       2048  2111      64   32K  c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/mmcblk0p2       4096  5119    1024  512K 83 Linux
[13:22] <onio> Device         Boot Start   End Sectors  Size Id Type
[13:22] <SimonNL>  p= no trace of the package exists on the system, pankaj
[13:22] <Lope> resolvconf is ignoring "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>" but it adds "dns-search foo.com" from /etc/network/interfaces in Ubuntu 16.04. Any ideas?
[13:22] <Dreaman> https://imgur.com/a/JWFi4    qqqwxlea
[13:23] <Lope> /etc/resolv.conf is not getting nameservers and it's driving me nuts.
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> onio  use this to paste multiple lines    http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:23] <onio> okay thanks MonkeyDust would do
[13:23] <pankaj> SimonNL: I did not understand.
[13:23] <Dreaman> qwxlea https://imgur.com/a/JWFi4    4k
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> Lope  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25692526/
[13:25] <pankaj> s
[13:25] <Lope> My interfaces file is dead simple. http://codepad.org/Ep78VVVl
[13:26] <pankaj> SimonNL: Hello
[13:26] <qwxlea> Dreaman:  ? :-)
[13:26] <SimonNL> https://translate.google.com/?hl=nl#auto/hi/no%20trace%20of%20the%20package%20exists%20on%20the%20system   pankaj make it translate to the language you understand
[13:26] <onio> this is my command that I am issuing for sfdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/25692532/
[13:27] <tomreyn> onio: "gparted" uses libparted on its backend, as does the "parted" CLI utility. you might want to prefer this to sfdisk. if, however, you want to make something work with sfdisk instead then you should describe what something is, and how the result you are receiving now differs from the one you are trying to achieve, and which result you are trying to achiev exactly.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Lope, not using systemd ?
[13:28] <Lope> BluesKaj: I'm using standard ubuntu 16.04
[13:29] <onio> this is the output I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/25692546/
[13:29] <Lope> so all your base are belong to systemd.
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Lope  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[13:29] <Lope> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[13:29] <tomreyn> onio: what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:30] <onio> tomreyn does this mean that "sfdisk" is usable
[13:30] <Lope> resolvconf is ignoring "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>" but it adds "dns-search foo.com" from /etc/network/interfaces
[13:30] <Dreaman> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25692556/  qwxlea  :)~
[13:30] <Lope> I've tried a single nameserver "dns-nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" it ignores that too.
[13:30] <tomreyn> onio: generally speaking, using "sfdisk" is fine, yes.
[13:31] <onio> tomreyn I am learning embedded linux starting with bootloaders. I am following a boot "Mastering Embedded Linux Programming"
[13:31] <Lope> I have network-manager, but this interface is unmanaged by it.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Lope, I'm surprised you can even connect to the internet with eth0 in the interfaces file , the systemd naming convention has changed eth0 to enpXXX
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Lope, so you are using NM
[13:32] <BluesKaj> your dns IPs should be separated with a comma and a space
[13:33] <Lope> ah, well yes it's actually enpXXX but I normally obfuscate configs I paste.
[13:33] <Lope> Much of a muchness.
[13:33] <tomreyn> onio: i see. now how does this relate to gparted and sfdisk specifically?  what is your ubuntu support question?
[13:34] <qwxlea> Dreaman: nice box :-) quite outperforms my tp-x220 (but mine is portable)
[13:34] <Lope> to connect to the internet I have to run this manually after `ifup enpXXX` `printf 'nameserver %s\n' <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> >/etc/resolv.conf`
[13:34] <n35xdxb0> i have a bash function tht looks like this   https://pastebin.com/KV8zeZA5    everything works except the  | less   part. it creates a list where you can select a file with a number, i just want to add paging/scrolling, is there an alternative to  | less  ?
[13:34] <Lope> Any idea why resolvconf ignores dns-nameservers?
[13:35] <onio> tomreyn I am not sure if I am even in the right forum, but I was looking for answers on why the sfdisk issued on the command line does give the requested size
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> n35xdxb0  there's also   #bash
[13:35] <onio> I am not sure if I am even in the right forum, but I was looking for answers on why the sfdisk issued on the command line does NOT give the requested size
[13:36] <n35xdxb0> MonkeyDust: ye i tired there. no one seeemed to know. and i've been googling for a while. can't find anything. but thanks :)
[13:36] <n35xdxb0> tried*
[13:37] <onio> tomreyn if I am in the wrong forum can you recommend the right one please
[13:38] <tomreyn> onio: asking questions about sfdisk or gparted is fine here, since both are in ubuntu. i was just unable to understand what you are asking specifically so far. for what i can tell, the sfdisk command you ran as shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/25692532/ creates the expectable results as you have shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/25692546/
[13:40] <tomreyn> onio: with the sfdisk input you made, what size do you think you requested for which partition (where does it differ from the actual result)?
[13:41] <onio> tomreyn I was expecting 64Mib which is consistent with the gparted result but not the sfdisk result
[13:42] <tomreyn> onio: raw number input to sfdisk is interpreted as sectors, not bytes (nor megabytes).
[13:43] <tomreyn> onio: see how the "sectors" column in the output you posted matches the input you provided to sfdisk.
[13:44] <onio> yes. that is correct
[13:44] <GWM> Hi I am trying to install ffmpeg on a headless ubuntu server and apt is trying to install x11 and mesa and stuff like that at the same time
[13:45] <GWM> I just want a headless ffmpeg for streaming /dev/video1
[13:45] <GWM> How do I prevent apt from installing x11 et al
[13:46] <onio> tomreyn I was of the assumption that issuing the sfdisk command would be creating partitions big enough to host bootloader and file system
[13:46] <Lope> I'm finding it very strange that nobody here seems to know how to set dns-nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces such that it will be respected by resolvconf and dnsmasq etc?
[13:46] <sheap> it's a mess that I've never seen an answer to, only workarounds
[13:48] <Lope> does dnsmasq interfere with resolvconf getting dns-nameservers from /etc/network/interfaces? I'm specifying the dns-nameservers as per the resolvconf manual and it's not going into /etc/resolv.conf. Only dns-search, not dns-nameservers...?
[13:48] <akik> Lope: dns-nameservers ip ip ip is the correct syntax
[13:48] <onio> tomreyn see excerpt from book http://paste.ubuntu.com/25692670/
[13:49] <tomreyn> onio: the bootloader is usually installed to the raw storage device (/dev/mmcblk0 in this case), not to a partition. the latter is also possible in some configurations but is more error prone and generally discouraged. sfdisk does not make assumptions, it does exactly what you ask it to do. you asked it to create 2 small partitions, and it did.
[13:49] <Lope> akik: yes, that's what the manual says and how I'm doing it, but it doesn't work.
[13:49] <akik> Lope: works in 16.04. i only configure the interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:50] <Lope> akik: I'm on 16.04.3
[13:50] <Lope> Doesn't work for me.
[13:50] <tomreyn> onio: maybe "this script" (which i do not know) relates to a different variant or version of the (sfdisk) software, or is just wrong. book authors can fail, too. ;)
[13:50] <akik> Lope: i don't run resolvconf manually ever
[13:51] <onio> tomreyn see script line 49 to 60 for commands http://paste.ubuntu.com/25692682/
[13:53] <tomreyn> onio: if you read the sfdisk manual page (run "man sfdisk") you will notice that the "INPUT FORMATS" chapter discusses, in the "Named-fields format" paragraph, the "size" filed, and the formats / values it can take.
[13:53] <tomreyn> i meant to write "field", not "filed"
[13:53] <Lope> akik: yeah on ubuntu 14.04 I removed resolvconf. I absolutely hate it.
[13:54] <onio> tomreyn cool I guessed that
[13:54] <akik> Lope: could it be that when you changed /etc/resolv.conf manually, it broke things(tm)
[13:54] <Lope> akik: I just thought there should be a reasonable way to make it work.
[13:54] <Lope> But it seems like other people can't make it work either.
[13:54] <akik> Lope: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Aug 16 21:39 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[13:54] <Lope> Cos I've been asking on 4 channels and it seems nobody knows.
[13:54] <onio> tomreyn I would check again. I must confess I sometimes struggle with understanding "man pages"
[13:54] <Lope> akik: no, writing to /etc/resolv.conf manually doesn't break anything, infact it's necessary for me to connect.
[13:55] <Lope> But if I ifdown and ifup the interface, resolvconf kills it again.
[13:59] <akik> Lope: how does your /etc/resolv.conf look after boot?
[13:59] <oerheks> Ubuntu 14.04 no longer allows you to edit /etc/resolv.conf directly. Instead, you have to modify /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head or tail
[14:00] <oerheks> old info, you should have known this, Lope
[14:00] <tomreyn> onio: it seems that the author of this script you posted makes the assumption that all versions of sfdisk before 2.26 interpret raw number input to the size field as sectors unless the sfdisk command line option of "--unit M" is provided, and that all later / greater versions interpret those values as megabytes. tand that this is not consistent with the behaviour of the sfdisk command you have on your ubuntu system.
[14:00] <sheap> workaround, still seems nasty to do that instead of with the method that he was trying
[14:00] <akik> oerheks: you can also configure it in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:01] <oerheks> akik, true ..
[14:01] <oerheks> sudo nano /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base  && bla bla && sudo resolvconf -u
[14:02] <sheap> there's no way that that's the cleanest/intended method of updating resolv.conf though
[14:02] <oerheks> sheap,  yes it is, for 14.04
[14:03] <onio> tomreyn yes you are correct
[14:03] <akik> Lope: what if your network-manager is configuring your ethernet interface anyway?
[14:03] <onio> tomreyn: I am looking at the man page "Input format" section
[14:03] <Lope> `apt-get remove --purge resolvconf` aka hellspawn solved it.
[14:03] <sheap> oerheks: where does it say that?
[14:07] <onio> tomreyn: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mastering-Embedded-Linux-Programming-Second-ebook/dp/B071DN5DPL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507385101&sr=8-1&keywords=mastering+embedded+linux+programming
[14:07] <oerheks> sheap,  page 35 and on https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/serverguide.pdf , and enough examples in google
[14:08] <oerheks> editting resolve.conf is not persistant, that is why you modify /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base so it gets regenerated
[14:10] <sheap> weird
[14:10] <tomreyn> onio: what's your point?
[14:12] <onio> tomreyn: just pointing out where the script came from. Its not important. I would simply report my findings to the author and move on. Thanks for your time
[14:13] <tomreyn> onio: you're welcome. if you come across any ubuntu support questions, feel free to come here and ask them again.
[14:17] <hashman> hi guys, please help me with an issue that keeps me crazy. I'm using 16.04.3 in my laptop. If I close the laptop and It enters in suspend mode, It is not able to come back to life. I know that the system is not hang or anything like these, because with ctrl + alt + f1 I can open a terminal and there I'm able to restart the system with ctrl + alt + del, but I have no video no matter what I try. Please advice
[14:54] <RonaldsMazitis> clamscan -r -i /home/username /homer/username/clamlog.log
[14:54] <RonaldsMazitis> LibClamAV Warning: [Bytecode JIT]: Bytecode run timed out, timeout flag set
[14:54] <RonaldsMazitis> LibClamAV Warning: [Bytecode JIT]: recovered from error
[14:54] <RonaldsMazitis> LibClamAV Warning: [Bytecode JIT]: JITed code intercepted runtime error!
[14:54] <RonaldsMazitis> LibClamAV Warning: Bytcode 36 failed to run: Time limit reached
[14:54] <RonaldsMazitis> LibClamAV Warning: [Bytecode JIT]: Bytecode run timed out, timeout flag set
[14:56] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25693057/
[14:56] <RonaldsMazitis> How do I have to make a scan to show viruses
[14:56] <RonaldsMazitis> adding parameter -i makes it error
[14:57] <RonaldsMazitis> it's 3-4 time scanning 300 gb of data
[14:57] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm angry at this stupid antivirus
[14:58] <RonaldsMazitis> or those are just warnings
[14:58] <RonaldsMazitis> and it will finish the scan
[14:58] <RonaldsMazitis> who knows
[15:00] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25693089/
[15:00] <RonaldsMazitis> it shows 6 viruses
[15:00] <RonaldsMazitis> why it can't give the locations
[15:01] <RonaldsMazitis> it's just stupid or something
[15:02] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, i gave you the manual yesterday..
[15:02] <oerheks> sudo clamscan -v -r /FOLDERTOSCAN | grep FOUND >> /path/to/save/report/file.txt  >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV#Infected_files_reporting
[15:03] <skinux> What is the Whoopsie process?
[15:03] <oerheks> easy to find, skinux
[15:05] <RonaldsMazitis> who was the idiot that did not include locations of viruses in default process
[15:05] <urgodfather> hello room i am having difficulty getting my tuner card to work. i have some instructions that i have been following, but i cannot remember how to verify if it is functioning properly in kernel messages
[15:06] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, why ? *you* don't read the manual
[15:06] <RonaldsMazitis> oerheks nothing happens
[15:06] <RonaldsMazitis> when I run that thing
[15:07] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo clamscan -v -r /home/username | grep FOUND /home/username/viruses.txt
[15:07] <RonaldsMazitis> it just ends
[15:07] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: see if this helps - https://askubuntu.com/questions/250290/how-do-i-scan-for-viruses-with-clamav#560947
[15:08] <oerheks> .. /home/username/ ...
[15:08] <RonaldsMazitis> no it does not help
[15:08] <oerheks> you might have tons of logs in that folder now
[15:08] <RonaldsMazitis> I tried every command
[15:09] <RonaldsMazitis> what
[15:09] <RonaldsMazitis> ...
[15:09] <floogy>  >> should Point to a File rather to a folder
[15:09] <RonaldsMazitis> no there is nothing
[15:10] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo clamscan -v -r .. /home/username ... | grep FOUND /home/username/viruses.txt ?
[15:10] <oerheks> floogy, agreed, or the manual should say /home/$USER/..
[15:10] <RonaldsMazitis> what
[15:10] <RonaldsMazitis> damn it , I don't understand what did You thought with ...
[15:11] <floogy> after gep FOUND you Neef >> to redirect the result
[15:11] <RonaldsMazitis> that command does not work
[15:11] <floogy> News*
[15:11] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, those examples do not know your username, so you should fill it in yourself
[15:11] <floogy> need*
[15:12] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo clamscan -v -r /home/$USER/ | grep FOUND >> /home/$USER/viruses.txt  >>>
[15:12] <RonaldsMazitis> that is idiotic
[15:12] <RonaldsMazitis> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `>'
[15:12] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: remove the last '>>>'
[15:12] <ducasse> at the end
[15:13] <floogy> yes, remove the threema > at the end
[15:13] <RonaldsMazitis> right now it does nothing
[15:14] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo clamscan -v -r /home/$USER/ | grep FOUND >> /home/$USER/viruses.txt
[15:14] <RonaldsMazitis> so now it's scanning 300 gb again
[15:14] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm so stoked
[15:15] <oerheks> but only your /home folder,
[15:15] <floogy> OK Bye, can't Cope with the German autocorrection on my Android mobile
[15:15] <ducasse> skinux: first hit from a web search - https://askubuntu.com/questions/135540/what-is-the-whoopsie-process-and-how-can-i-remove-it#135552
[15:16] <RonaldsMazitis> why it does not have any percentage
[15:16] <RonaldsMazitis> nothing shows
[15:16] <ioria> ClamAV engine will, by default, never load, trigger or execute untrusted bytecodes; further more  If execution time exceeds the value (timeout) , the bytecode signature’s execution is terminated and the user is notified.
[15:16] <RonaldsMazitis> it should atleast show what files it is scanning or what
[15:16] <oerheks> Does mint have woopsie too ?
[15:17] <oerheks> does it sent to canonical or mint?
[15:17] <urgodfather> does this device look like its functioning properly?
[15:17] <urgodfather> https://pastebin.com/2DuiZVsT
[15:18] <oerheks> urgodfather, driver is in use, so yeah  Kernel driver in use: saa7164
[15:18] <floogy> you should Point to that file in Your Home. directory, e.g. by Using a pager like less
[15:18] <ducasse> urgodfather: all that tells you is that the driver is loaded, the logs produced by loading it would tell you more
[15:19] <urgodfather> why does it say access denied for capabilities?
[15:19] <urgodfather> ducasse: how to view logs?
[15:20] <ioria> urgodfather, try with sudo lspci
[15:20] <ducasse> urgodfather: try 'dmesg' for the kernel log
[15:21] <urgodfather> https://pastebin.com/AWT9YLkg
[15:22] <Anthaas> I can NOT get my updated xresources to load...
[15:23] <Anthaas> I have been using a solarized theme, but have changed my xresources and dircolors to monokai
[15:23] <Anthaas> xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources and xrdb -load ~/.Xresources are having no effect - including after reboot
[15:24] <urgodfather> https://pastebin.com/6q3bfunM
[15:24] <ioria> firmware issue
[15:24] <urgodfather> i recognize that firmware from my attempts last night.... i can manually download it and install it
[15:25] <skinux> OH, no worries
[15:25] <urgodfather> where should i put it? lib/firmware or lib/firmware/'uname -r'
[15:25] <ducasse> Anthaas: do none of the resources specified get set, or just some of them?
[15:25] <Anthaas> ducasse, None change.
[15:26] <ducasse> Anthaas: can you pastebin ~/.Xresources for me?
[15:27] <Anthaas> ducasse, https://dpaste.de/Vqke
[15:29] <ducasse> Anthaas: ok, those look good. how do you test them - which terminal etc?
[15:29] <Anthaas> xterm-256colors
[15:30] <Anthaas> Running the above commands - I realised I installed this via gnome-terminal-colors-solarized - Im presuming it did something additional...
[15:32] <hwpplayer1> I want to make an IRC Meeting on #ubuntu-science at UTC+3 19:00 Istanbul who wants to join are welcome
[15:34] <Anthaas> ducasse, That was it - I have changed to the theme I wanted with gnome-terminal-colors-monokai
[15:35] <ducasse> Anthaas: you probably had something overriding colors there, i don't know what that is/how it works
[15:44] <marekw2143> hi, I've deleted my "Desktop" directory
[15:44] <marekw2143> and there was very important file inside (text file)
[15:45] <marekw2143> you know if it's possible to recover that ?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> marekw2143  did you have a backup?
[15:48] <marekw2143> MonkeyDust: probably no
[15:48] <marekw2143> I guess chances are near 0  ?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> marekw2143  if you did not make a backup, then you don't have one
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> !recover | marekw2143
[15:50] <ducasse> marekw2143: what have you done after deleting it? like, *exactly* what have you done?
[15:50] <marekw2143> ducasse: I've used PC
[15:50] <marekw2143> normally
[15:50] <marekw2143> written data to partition where deleted file was.....
[15:51] <oerheks> marahin, did you delete it in the gui? then it is in your trash
[15:51] <ducasse> marekw2143: if you've written to that filesystem it's most likely gone.
[15:51] <marekw2143> no, i guess it was not by gui, anyway, it is not in a trash
[15:52] <marekw2143> ducasse: is it  100 % ?
[15:53] <ducasse> marekw2143: no, you can always try to recover it - try some of the tools in the link above. your chances aren't very good, though.
[15:54] <marekw2143> it was small text file
[15:54] <marekw2143> created in vim
[15:55] <oerheks> !info extundelete
[15:56] <marekw2143> oerheks: yes, just installed it
[15:56] <marekw2143> searching for manual now ;)
[15:56] <forgotten> is the change to gnome not happening until version 18?
[15:57] <oerheks> extundelete --restore-all or  --restore-file path/to/deleted/file or if you know the *exact* name  --restore-files filename
[15:57] <oerheks> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/extundelete.1.html
[15:57] <marekw2143> oerheks: thanks
[15:57] <ducasse> marekw2143: is /home part of the root filesystem?
[15:58] <oerheks> i would choose restore all, as you deleted the folder too
[15:58] <marekw2143> ducasse: unfortunatelly yes
[15:58] <marekw2143> can  I run extundelete while running system?
[15:58] <marekw2143> or have to use live cd ?
[15:59] <oerheks> try it on your running system, AFAIK
[15:59] <ducasse> marekw2143: then you're not doing yourself any favors by installing stuff and writing even more - you should do the recovery from a live image
[15:59] <ducasse> if you've already installed it, you can run it now, but don't write anymore to that fs
[16:00] <marekw2143> ducasse: let's assume my file is named "abc", then I should: extundelete --recover-files "abc" /dev/sda1 ?
[16:01] <marekw2143> mcoctn
[16:02] <ducasse> marekw2143: not familiar with extundelete, check the man page
[16:02] <marekw2143> no manual
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> marekw2143  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/extundelete.1.html
[16:05] <Cat_BPRM> Hey, i have 3 post-install problems, 1. im on a laptop and i want to get a battery indicator in the top right, 2. i want to know how to make nvidia graphics default on all games (mobile graphics), 3. my system settings isn't 'correct' (there ae some options missing and some multiples), 4.My keyboard is supposed to light up, i cant get it to work, its an asus laptop and the function keys wont work which is supposed to be used to contro
[16:06] <marekw2143> so I've run extundelete --restore-file /path/to/file /dev/sda1
[16:06] <marekw2143> but received : failed to restore file /path/to/file
[16:08] <oerheks> that path to file, it used to be in a folder.. you would need to restore the folder first.
[16:08] <oerheks> That is why i would choose restore all
[16:08] <forgotten> man.  linux is clunky and bloated
[16:08] <oerheks> forgotten, somehow we all agree that is not true.
[16:09] <oerheks> .. but it is good to have an opinion :-D
[16:10] <forgotten> oerheks: so you speak for everyone else? :)
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> forgotten  stop, no opinions and discussions here
[16:11] <forgotten> uhhh?? why?
[16:11] <ducasse> this is a support channel
[16:11] <oerheks> .. this is technical support, for dicussion there is #ubuntu-discuss
[16:13] <forgotten> lol k
[16:18] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, does anyone know where the suspend / resume scripts are located for ubuntu 17.04? I have tried modifying and making new scripts in /etc/pm/sleep.d but they do not seem to be run automatically.
[16:18] <Pinkamena_D> I am guessing that that advice is outdated
[16:21] <bastibuck> hello everyone, hope you are having a nice weekend
[16:22] <bastibuck> was wondering if anybody could share experience with installing ubuntu on a SD card
[16:23] <akik> bastibuck: there's almost nothing to it
[16:24] <oerheks> use it like an usb-device, i hope your system can boot from it.
[16:24] <akik> bastibuck: you just select it as your storage device and ensure that grub will be installed on it
[16:25] <bastibuck> speed is fine?
[16:25] <bastibuck> wanna use it for web development mainly
[16:26] <akik> bastibuck: it will most probably be slowish but we can't know what kind of hardware you have
[16:27] <bastibuck> so it depends on the laptop and the sd connector?
[16:27] <bastibuck> or the SD card I choose
[16:27] <Cat_BPRM> i have 4 post-install problems, 1. im on a laptop and i want to get a battery indicator in the top right, 2. i want to know how to make nvidia graphics default on all games (mobile graphics), 3. my system settings isn't 'correct' (there ae some options missing and some multiples), 4.My keyboard is supposed to light up, i cant get it to work, its an asus laptop and the function keys wont work which is supposed to be used to control the
[16:27] <akik> bastibuck: just try it and see if you manage to do your work there. why is it that you want to use a sd card for work?
[16:28] <bastibuck> because I mainly use windows on my laptop but it doesn't handle relativ symlinks what I need for my CMS
[16:28] <akik> bastibuck: another choice would be dual boot
[16:29] <bastibuck> from the same hard drive?
[16:29] <akik> bastibuck: yes
[16:29] <bastibuck> any experience with this? I'm affraid to do it :-D
[16:29] <igp> what is involved in setting screen resolution in Ubuntu Gnome at various stages of boot? I am having trouble with it turning displays on-off and changing resolution back and forth when I pass the greeter and start a Gnome session
[16:30] <akik> bastibuck: it became harder to setup with uefi but ubuntu installer has support for it
[16:30] <bastibuck> hmm I think I will stick to SD card for now to have it seperate
[16:31] <bastibuck> there shouldn't be a difference between USB stick and SD card, right?
[16:31] <bastibuck> in speed/compatibility
[16:31] <akik> bastibuck: i used kubuntu on an usb 2.0 stick and it was ok
[16:31] <oerheks> not in compatibality,.. it is just slow
[16:32] <akik> bastibuck: if you can, go for a usb 3.0 device
[16:35] <bastibuck> okay good point
[16:35] <bastibuck> thanks for your feedback
[16:35] <ducasse> Cat_BPRM: which release is this?
[16:35] <bastibuck> will try it and see what I get out of it
[16:36] <akik> bastibuck: there are some steps you can do like disabling swap so the sd card won't be used for that and limiting writes
[16:37] <bastibuck> do you suggest going for the newest version when I do?
[16:37] <bastibuck> 17.04
[16:37] <Cat_BPRM> 16.04
[16:38] <Cat_BPRM> ducasse
[16:38] <oerheks> bastibuck, no, use lts, unless you want to upgrade any 9 months
[16:38] <bastibuck> alright good point
[16:39] <bastibuck> will do, thanks for helping :)
[16:39] <ducasse> Cat_BPRM: you can try logging in as guest to see if that solves 1 and 3
[16:39] <Cat_BPRM> okay
[16:40] <Cat_BPRM> it doesnt ducasse
[16:41] <akik> bastibuck: yet another choice could be virtualization, i.e. you could run linux in full screen on windows
[16:41] <bastibuck> ohhh
[16:41] <bastibuck> sounds interesting
[16:43] <Pinkamena_D> trying to run nm-applet on startup
[16:43] <Pinkamena_D> or resume rather
[16:43] <Pinkamena_D> works as my user with 'nm-applet &'
[16:43] <ducasse> Cat_BPRM: best idea i had atm, sorry, hang around until someone who uses a desktop environment can help
[16:44] <Cat_BPRM> k
[16:44] <Pinkamena_D> but I cans get it to work from root with sudo -i -u <USER> bash -c 'nm-applet &'
[16:44] <Pinkamena_D> or various variations
[16:44] <Pinkamena_D> how can I get it to run as if it was my user on a bash shell
[16:45] <akik> bastibuck: for example virtualbox is quite user friendly solution for it
[16:45] <alkisg> Pinkamena_D: you can't run processes inside other users' sessions easily. Why don't you put it in the startup programs?
[16:45] <alkisg> nm-applet is supposed to autostart...
[16:46] <Pinkamena_D> this is for resume not startup
[16:46] <alkisg> There's dbus_session_bus_addresss, xauthority etc to take care of
[16:46] <Pinkamena_D> I am working around some kind of driver bug with my wifi hardwarte
[16:46] <alkisg> Pinkamena_D: if it crashes and you want to re-run it, just put it in a loop
[16:46] <Pinkamena_D> I have a script I can run each time I resume to fix the wifi, I just want it to run automatically
[16:46] <Cat_BPRM> does anyone know how to make games use my nvidia gpu?
[16:46] <Cat_BPRM> its a mobile gpu
[16:46] <alkisg> And put it in startup
[16:46] <bastibuck> akik: thanks looks good. gotta go now but will keep your tips in mind when I actually do install and read more into VMs
[16:47] <alkisg> *in session startup
[16:47] <bastibuck> bye all
[16:47] <Pinkamena_D> it does not crash
[16:47] <Pinkamena_D> it just says the device is not ready
[16:47] <alkisg> OK, a loop will make it retry then
[16:47] <Pinkamena_D> ???
[16:47] <RonaldsMazitis> if You use nm-applet with tint2 then check if You start everything wih &
[16:49] <Pinkamena_D> I feel as though it could be a common problem to just run something as a different user in general - is there no way to just inherit everything that usually happens to open a terminal as my user?
[16:49] <RonaldsMazitis> (openbox)
[16:49] <alkisg> Pinkamena_D: usually there's a dbus listener process in the user environment, which a system process can invoke
[16:50] <Pinkamena_D> how about a simple situation where I want to simply show something with etc $ notify-send for another user? This could be a pretty common use case?
[16:52] <Pinkamena_D> What kind of commands can be invoked from the dbus listner? Would it follow a logical bash style command or its something lower level?
[16:52] <igp> Cat_BPRM: by installing nvidia drivers, nvidia-settings and nvidia-prime. This is slightly dated, but mostly relevant: https://www.dell.com/support/article/uk/en/ukbsdt1/sln298431/a-guide-to-nvidia-optimus-on-dell-pcs-with-an-ubuntu-operating-system?lang=en
[16:55] <skypce> hi guys
[16:56] <skypce> it is possible implement same bluetooth management from ubuntu 17.10 to 14.04?
[16:56] <skypce> does it is possible implement same bluetooth management from ubuntu 17.10 to 14.04?
[16:58] <oerheks> skypce, i don't think so, there is a huge change to systemD
[16:58] <oerheks> but if you want to try it out: build the packages yourself
[17:00] <igp> what is involved in setting screen resolution in Ubuntu Gnome at various stages of boot? I am looking to troubleshoot issues that I am having on multiple monitors and need to know where to start
[17:01] <igp> i.e. where would monitor settings be stored for: 1) grub stage 2) gdm greeter stage 3) gnome session stage; does xorg.conf matter at all or is it only monitors.xml?
[17:03] <FrostyBytes> igp: do you even need multiple monitors bootsplash? I'd just get it work in the X session with some xrandr commands stuck in .xsession or .xinitrc
[17:06] <igp> FrostyBytes: yes. First reason: laptop display (primary) is hidpi, default tty defaults to 4k resolution and microscopic text. Nothing is readable during boot and switching to TTY, i.e. ctrl-alt-f1 gives me an unusable console, which I use when gnome freezes up to kill the offending processes.
[17:08] <igp> FrostyBytes: second reason: every time I switch to lock screen/greeter and log back in, my screen resolution starts changing back and forth out of control a dozen times, sometimes this ends up in one/some of my external displays not receiving the signal afterwards (but they still show up in the OS as functioning) and I want to find the cause of this and fix it
[17:08] <akik> igp: you can influence the virtual console resolution with video= kernel parameter. it accept a xresxyres
[17:09] <akik> i.e. 800x600
[17:09] <igp> akik: thank you, i will try this out now
[17:11] <ducasse> igp: which kernel are you on?
[17:12] <igp> ducasse: 4.10.0-35
[17:14] <ducasse> igp: then it's not what i was thinking of, sorry. can't find the link now anyway...
[17:15] <igp> akik: that did the trick for textmode, thanks!
[17:28] <erle-> when is /etc/cron.hourly executed?
[17:29] <erle-> right at the full hour?
[17:32] <Ben64> mine runs at :17 today
[17:33] <erle-> Ben64, is it always the same?
[17:33] <Ben64> idk, check your syslog
[17:35] <erle-> seems to always be :17:01
[17:36] <geirha> grep 'cron\.hourly' /etc/crontab
[18:07] <RonaldsMazitis> oerheks clamav found some viruses but then crashed
[18:08] <RonaldsMazitis> all in windows software
[18:09] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25694274/
[18:11] <RonaldsMazitis> also clamav did not write this info into file
[18:15] <RonaldsMazitis> or that is not crash
[18:18] <sirru5h> Howdy Everyone
[18:22] <cat_bprm> I cant get prime settings to show up in nvidia x server... can anyone help? im on an asus laptop with a 960m
[18:24] <Penguin900> I have a script I placed in init.d, then ran "sudo update-rc.d script defaults", running "sudo /etc/init.d/script start" works, but the script does not work on restart. Is there a place can I see error logs or something?
[18:25] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: What release and what desktop are you running ?
[18:25] <cat_bprm> 16.4 ubuntu
[18:25] <cat_bprm> 16.0*
[18:25] <cat_bprm> 16.04***#
[18:26] <cat_bprm> Icant type XD
[18:26] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: K; we can work 16.04 . pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia* ' see what we have to work with .
[18:28] <cat_bprm> https://pastebin.com/tmJ8A5e0
[18:30] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: Pleasantly surprised .. that all looks sane . What does X think ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' ?
[18:31] <georgemp> Hi. I'm trying to connect to a pptp server from Ubuntu Desktop 16.04. But, it keeps errorign with Connection Timed out. I can telnet to the server port 1723 fine.
[18:32] <georgemp>  VPN connection: connect timeout exceeded. - I see that in the logs
[18:32] <georgemp> any ideas on how to troubleshoot this? Thanks
[18:32] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: As a by the way though - nvidia recommneds the 384 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/123918/en-us   - I would expect 375 to do however .
[18:32] <cat_bprm> Bashing-om sorry, i dont understand XD im new to linux...
[18:33] <cat_bprm> for the previous message
[18:33] <cat_bprm> for your latest message, should i use the 384 driver?
[18:33] <cat_bprm> or stick with 375
[18:34] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: NP .. The GUI runs on Xserver, that is a layer of X. the X-server makes up a log filke of how it interdaces with the jerenl - Xorg.0.log - . So we want to look at that log for a report of any errors .
[18:35] <cat_bprm> play so i'll find that in the file browser which i need to learn how to use XD
[18:35] <cat_bprm> okay*
[18:35] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: 375 version should be fine . we see what  the ststem says ^^ .
[18:37] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: As before , in a terminal run ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' and pass the URL back here .
[18:37] <cat_bprm> okay
[18:38] <cat_bprm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25694404/
[18:38] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: I be a while reading .
[18:38] <cat_bprm> Bashing-om thats fine
[18:38] <cat_bprm> i have ages to wait, i have nothing to do
[18:40] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: What is the reason that the boot parameter " acpi=off " is set ? that is not an optimum thing to leave set generally .
[18:41] <cat_bprm> oh i had that because wheni was trying to install ubuntu yesterday, it crashed whenever i tried to loadbuntu installer
[18:42] <cat_bprm> ive no idea what it does so i left it, no harm so far, i juts know it worked
[18:43] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: Well, we are getting out of me experience range .. but I bet the acpi parameter effects " Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver "
[18:44] <Bashing-om>  where you load the fall back driver rather then the nvidia driver .. humm ??
[18:45] <cat_bprm> if i removethat peramiter, will it stop ubuntu loading like it stopped ubuntu installer loading
[18:45] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: Let's try a different approach and get the nvidia driver to load . OK ?
[18:45] <cat_bprm> i should say booting...
[18:45] <cat_bprm> ok
[18:49] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: I want that you remove the acpi=off . reboot to the grub boot menu -> boot up from advanced a recovery kernel. See what happens . with the 375 version driver installed I would expect it to load degraded ! ..but to load . How old is this lap top ? Maybe we can adjust the DSDT table (??).
[18:52] <cat_bprm> bashing-om just eatingdinner, i wont be long
[18:55] <jakd> hello , i want to download something in github to my own dir , how?
[18:56] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, good. if you don't own the license ...
[18:57] <cat_bprm> im back
[18:58] <cat_bprm> how do i remove acpi=off?
[18:58] <tosmann> Hi all, has anyone got any experience with the networking changes in Ubuntu 17.10 server in regard to static IPs and bridge interfaces?
[19:00] <cat_bprm> Bashing-om
[19:01] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: How did you set acpi=off ? and edit to /etc/default/grub file ? an boot option in the kernel boot line ?
[19:02] <cat_bprm> when i was booting grub from usb i scrolled to install ubuntu and pressed e anddid it from there, i dnt know how to revert it
[19:04] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: That is a one time thing . reboot and let's see if you now come up on the GUI - as the driver is installed .
[19:05] <ioria> cat_bprm, you can paste   cat /etc/default/grub so we can check
[19:05] <cat_bprm> okay
[19:06] <cat_bprm> 'You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.'
[19:07] <ioria> cat_bprm,    ls -l  /etc/default/grub
[19:07] <donofrio> how would I go about seeing how big my install is taking up excluding a directory?
[19:07] <donofrio> excluding /mnt I mean
[19:07] <cat_bprm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25694573/
[19:08] <ioria> cat_bprm,   cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit
[19:08] <cat_bprm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25694576/
[19:09] <ioria> cat_bprm,   you see this line ? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi=off"
[19:09] <cat_bprm> yes
[19:09] <ioria> cat_bprm,   you want to remove that acpi=off ?
[19:09] <cat_bprm> yes
[19:10] <Bashing-om> cat_bprm: ioria is so wise - GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi=off" - :)
[19:10] <cat_bprm> okay, then restart?
[19:10] <ioria> cat_bprm,   sudo nano /etc/default/grub and make the line this way : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" "
[19:10] <ioria> cat_bprm,   sudo nano /etc/default/grub and make the line this way : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[19:10] <ioria> cat_bprm,   the run  sudo update-grub
[19:11] <cat_bprm> play
[19:11] <cat_bprm> oka*
[19:11] <ioria> cat_bprm,   wait ...
[19:11] <cat_bprm> wat
[19:12] <ioria> cat_bprm,   make grub visible commenting  with '#' this line : GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[19:12] <ioria> cat_bprm,   so if the system not booting, you can easily access it  and change the parameter
[19:12] <cat_bprm> where do i put that
[19:14] <ioria> cat_bprm,   it's just the 2° line in  that file :  now should look like this    #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[19:14] <cat_bprm> i still dont understand... which line?
[19:14] <cat_bprm> OHH
[19:14] <cat_bprm> nevermind i understand
[19:14] <ioria> cat_bprm,   good
[19:15] <cat_bprm> and how do i save and exit
[19:15] <ioria> cat_bprm,   ctrl+o then ctrl+x
[19:15] <cat_bprm> done
[19:15] <ioria> cat_bprm,   sudo update-grub
[19:15] <cat_bprm> so ubuntu SHOULD load fine even with this off?
[19:16] <ioria> cat_bprm,   we don't know
[19:16] <cat_bprm> what do i do if it doesnt
[19:16] <alkisg> Try removing it with "e" from grub first, before updating grub.cfg...
[19:16] <alkisg> I.e. temporarily, only one time
[19:16] <ioria> cat_bprm,   you select the first item , press 'e' and add it again
[19:17] <cat_bprm> how do i get the grub menu on startup?
[19:17] <ioria> cat_bprm,   you 'll find at bottom of the screen all the instructions
[19:17] <cat_bprm> i wont... it doesnt show for me
[19:17] <alkisg> Hold down left shift
[19:17] <cat_bprm> okay
[19:18] <cat_bprm> what now?
[19:18] <alkisg> Press e to edit the menu
[19:18] <alkisg> Add/remove acpi etc, whatever you want to test
[19:18] <cat_bprm> i know that, i mean now that i removed acpi
[19:19] <ioria> cat_bprm,   if grub not showing , you have not commented the line i said
[19:19] <cat_bprm> huh
[19:21] <ioria> cat_bprm,   paste it again, please
[19:22] <cat_bprm> paste what? sudo-upgrade grup?
[19:22] <cat_bprm> grub?
[19:22] <ioria> cat_bprm,   we're talking about /etc/default/grub file
[19:22] <cat_bprm> OH
[19:23] <cat_bprm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25694675/
[19:24] <ioria> cat_bprm,   looks fine
[19:24] <ioria> cat_bprm,   reboot
[19:24] <cat_bprm> OKAY
[19:24] <cat_bprm> ill come back here after
[19:41] <RalphBa> hi there, if someone good with system architecture design has a bit time and would like to help me with an architectural decision please read https://pastebin.com/6b9pr02p and pm me
[19:47] <oerheks> RalphBa, try #programming
[19:47] <VlanX> Hello... looking for alternatives to PAC (Perl Auto Connector) since this one is bugged beyond belief in Ubuntu 17.04
[19:56] <VlanX> I really hate whoever made PAC
[19:56] <VlanX> quit programming man
[19:57] <maziar> 	I am creating a lot of small files with m3u8 format and I do want rsync copy all of them but rsync is stop copying those files, because each files is creating every 4 second , what should I do to copy these files from local server to remote server ?
[20:02] <tosmann> (question repeated since 1 hour ago) Hi all, has anyone got any experience with the networking changes in Ubuntu 17.10 server in regard to static IPs and bridge interfaces?
[20:02] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1 | tosmann
[20:02] <EriC^^> they might know ^
[20:03] <tosmann> ubottu: thanks!
[20:07] <RalphBa> oerheks, thanks
[20:09] <skypce> hi all
[20:10] <RalphBa> hi
[20:10] <skypce> i have unclickable wine icons elements in ubuntu 14.04
[20:10] <skypce> only 1 works fine
[20:10] <skypce> two icons in panel only works the last
[20:11] <RalphBa> what application you installed?
[20:11] <skypce> instant eyedropper + lightshot
[20:12] <skypce> both in independant playonlinux drives
[20:12] <skypce> so i have some problems with my hifi and bluetooth in ubuntu 14.04, do not pair
[20:13] <skypce> any help is welcome, thanks
[20:13] <RalphBa> ah, so its about playonlinux. what is it saying if you try to start it from within pol?
[20:13] <skypce> the pol runs ok
[20:13] <skypce> without problems
[20:13] <skypce> unity panel is the problem
[20:13] <RalphBa> skypce, 14.04 is pretty old. the bluetooth protocol was extended in the meanwhile. here I would suggest you an upgrade
[20:13] <skypce> only is clickable 1 elements , not both
[20:14] <skypce> yes RalphBa but i love unity
[20:14] <skypce> ubuntu 17.10 is using gnom
[20:14] <skypce> ubuntu 17.10 is using gnome
[20:14] <ducasse> 16.04 has unity
[20:14] <skypce> 16.04 do not work bluetooth hifi
[20:14] <skypce> same problems
[20:14] <RalphBa> take 16.04, but sooner or later you have to get to gnome
[20:14] <skypce> i was tested it in a virtual machine
[20:15] <RalphBa> and honestly, I'm one of the guys saying unity and mir were a mistake of cannonical
[20:15] <ducasse> if you tested in a vm it didn't even have access to your hardware
[20:16] <RalphBa> if its an usb dongle you can attach it to vm
[20:16] <RalphBa> but it might cause problems
[20:17] <RalphBa> skypce, install ubuntu on an usb drive
[20:17] <RalphBa> so you can try it without messing up your local install
[20:17] <ducasse> no need to even install, run a live usb to see if 16.04 works better
[20:18] <RalphBa> well... yes
[20:18] <RalphBa> but if you want to test the gnome environment, you should install it on usb since live system is pretty limited
[20:18] <skypce> ok i will try
[20:18] <skypce> thank you men
[20:19] <oerheks> no better experience as a bare metal install
[20:19] <ducasse> skypce: 16.04 is supported until 2021, so you can stay with that and unity until at least then
[20:19] <RalphBa> skypce, also consider, ubuntu gnome 17.10 is not ubuntu 17.10. yes it bases on ubuntu but its pretty unity like
[20:19] <skypce> i like unity :S
[20:19] <RalphBa> bases on gnome
[20:19] <RalphBa> yes... but unity is dead
[20:19] <skypce> i like the menus in panel
[20:20] <skypce> all it is very good
[20:20] <skypce> i hope that soon will appear a fork of unity free
[20:20] <RalphBa> I'm pretty sure they will port this one to gnome to... if there isn't already an gnome shell extension doing exactly that
[20:20] <oerheks> not dead, just not default
[20:21] <skypce> canonical must release the unity
[20:21] <RalphBa> skypce, you should really take a look at https://extensions.gnome.org/#
[20:21] <skypce> like gnome 2 , with mate
[20:21] <oerheks> but guys, this is technical support, there is also #ubuntu-discuss
[20:21] <RalphBa> gnome 3 is very customizable
[20:23] <Bashing-om> skypce: unity will continue - with community support - CANONICAL will continue to sypport 'til EOL .
[20:24] <skypce> great
[20:25] <RonaldsMazitis> gnome 3 takes 2gb of ram without opening any app
[20:25] <RonaldsMazitis> or bit less
[20:26] <RonaldsMazitis> I have like 4 gb only, so every bit of RAM is kinda good to have
[20:27] <RonaldsMazitis> in my prefference openbox > unity > gnome 3
[20:27] <RalphBa> RonaldsMazitis, unity isn't the most lightweight environment too
[20:28] <RalphBa> or did something change in the last 2 years?
[20:28] <oerheks> did you get rid of your infected wine, RonaldsMazitis ? windows virusses do work on pirated software in wine :-D
[20:28] <RalphBa> oerheks, *lol*
[20:28] <oerheks> just remove the folders and you are fine.
[20:28] <littlyd> what is the command in linux to find how many packets dropped from yesterday?
[20:28] <RonaldsMazitis> I did remove infected autocad I was not using
[20:28] <RonaldsMazitis> game however stays
[20:29] <RonaldsMazitis> but I don't know if those were 6 viruses since clamav crashed
[20:29] <RonaldsMazitis> I had to remove daemons and stuff, because it was taking RAM in background
[20:30] <RonaldsMazitis> Unity was really good when it came out, it was perfect for my i5 laptop
[20:31] <RalphBa> when it came out it was quite different to now
[20:31] <RalphBa> it used only 2d stuff, the latest I used required 3d stuff and emulated it via software if card wasn't capable of
[20:31] <RonaldsMazitis> so You say it is heavier now?
[20:31] <oerheks> depends, if you installed wine stuff with sudo
[20:32] <RalphBa> what caused a lot of memory and cpu usage for sure
[20:33] <RonaldsMazitis> wine stuff was installed by normal user
[20:33] <RonaldsMazitis> I still have running unity sessions
[20:33] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't use it, cause openbox is faster
[20:34] <RonaldsMazitis> still, Unity rocks good with compiz effects
[20:34] <RonaldsMazitis> some people might like it
[20:34] <dauntl3ss> hi everyone, is there anyway to remove Apache completely from php7.1 as you can see it's all up in there conflicting with my nginx: https://kopy.io/wM3Nq -- I've already done sudo apt remove/purge apache2* and the utils.
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> RonaldsMazitis  unity IS a compiz effect
[20:35] <RonaldsMazitis> sudo purge apache?
[20:35] <RonaldsMazitis> something with purge
[20:36] <dauntl3ss> RonaldsMazitis: right in my message I said I've run sudo apt purge apache2* already :)
[20:36] <RonaldsMazitis> I once tried nginx
[20:36] <dauntl3ss> if you look @ the pastebin I put there, you'll see where the apache files are
[20:36] <RonaldsMazitis> it did not run well with php
[20:37] <dauntl3ss> nginx runs amazing with php :)
[20:37] <RonaldsMazitis> maybe it's php fault
[20:37] <RonaldsMazitis> or nginx
[20:37] <wedgie> or pebkac :)
[20:38] <RonaldsMazitis> I have no idea why then it does not run for You
[20:38] <RonaldsMazitis> You can manually delete every apache file
[20:39] <RonaldsMazitis> You did find them so thats not a problem now
[20:39] <dauntl3ss> yeah, I just don't want to damage the php7.1 install
[20:39] <dauntl3ss> so I'm curious if there's a clean way I can do that
[20:40] <RonaldsMazitis> but You can always reinstall php aswell
[20:40] <RonaldsMazitis> well I give up, somebody that knows servers better should give advice
[20:40] <joaopaulosr> Anybody in there who can help me with a little question about WSL Ubuntu?
[20:41] <dauntl3ss> RonaldsMazitis: yeah that's what I'm thinking to do, but I don't know how to install php7.1 without bringing along these apache files
[20:41] <RonaldsMazitis> it always installs them aswell?
[20:42] <dauntl3ss> let me see if I can find the command again
[20:42] <ducasse> dauntl3ss: is this 17.10, since you're using php7.1?
[20:42] <RonaldsMazitis> 7.1 is on 16.04 aswell
[20:42] <dauntl3ss> ducasse: I'm on 16.04
[20:43] <RonaldsMazitis> I know, cause it made me change a lot of sql lines
[20:44] <ducasse> !info php7.1 xenial
[20:44] <ducasse> dauntl3ss: from a ppa?
[20:45] <dauntl3ss> ducasse: from here: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php
[20:46] <RonaldsMazitis> ah , yes I have 7.0.22
[20:46] <RonaldsMazitis> also that repository is why Your nginx may not work
[20:47] <dauntl3ss> is there another way to use php 7.1?
[20:47] <dauntl3ss> I'm using Laravel 5.5 and it requires php7.1 I think
[20:47] <ducasse> wait for 17.10
[21:01] <scrum> moin.
[21:02] <scrum> I moved my hard drive with ubuntu on MBR to an UEFI motherboard.  How do I reinstall grub to work with UEFI?
[21:03] <ducasse> you need to create an efi partition, among other things. after that, install grub-efi for the correct architecture, then make sure the right efi firmware variables are set up
[21:05] <qwxlea> dauntl3ss: another solution is using docker with your complete development stack in it
[21:05] <dauntl3ss> qwxlea: yeah, I've never used Docker before but I think I'll get into it
[21:05] <dauntl3ss> You like it?
[21:12] <qwxlea> dauntl3ss: it is a whole new kind of headache, nothing like the old ones :-)
[21:12] <dauntl3ss> qwxlea: mmm sounds right up my alley xD
[21:13] <qwxlea> dauntl3ss: actually when you get the hang of it, it's really nice, you can copy your server's install locally, same packages etc, less surprises when deploying
[21:14] <donofrio> dauntl3ss, https://medium.com/software-development-stories/developing-a-dockerized-web-app-on-windows-subsystem-for-linux-wsl-61efec965080
[21:14] <dauntl3ss> I like the sound of that because it's always lovely locally, it's when you get into the pesky production env that all this stuff pops up
[21:14] <dauntl3ss> thank you! I'll take a look now, maybe it'll be easier than all this upgrading downgrading ugh
[21:15] <qwxlea> dauntl3ss: yes, it keeps your local workstation tidy, and the mess is in the docker image
[21:16] <dauntl3ss> I've read walkthroughs by this guy before, for Laravel and Paypal good stuff
[21:20] <ducasse> scrum: you can also avoid reconfiguring for uefi if your mobo supports csm/legacy mode
[21:21] <scrum> I have a Asus x370-A
[21:21] <scrum> I cant find anything like that in the menues
[21:40] <baxx> any latex users?
[21:41] <baxx> http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/09/16/install-tex-live-2016-ubuntu-16-04-14-04/ < i was going to install using this, not sure if that's the standard approach?
[21:44] <kostkon> baxx, only if you are after the latest version otherwise just install the one from the repos
[21:44] <baxx> kostkon: i seem to remember the ubuntu repos being a bit behind with latex stuff
[21:44] <baxx> ive run this now, see if it breaks :S
[21:45] <kostkon> baxx, suit yourself
[21:47] <ducasse> baxx: if it breaks, you're basically on your own, though - only repo software is supported here
[21:47] <baxx> ducasse: this isn't the only resource online , but ok - thanks
[22:01] <oerheks> zesty gets 2016, next artful this month 2017 .. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=texlive
[22:01] <oerheks> bit old?
[22:18] <donofrio> is EOL on 17.04 really 1/2018? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[22:19] <donofrio> no TLS for 17.04?
[22:21] <Bashing-om> !lts
[22:22] <donofrio> Bashing-om, well it says from the link I posted that "Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS Xenial Xerus Changes August 3, 2017" is the newest so you should update that bot
[22:22] <baxx> how to find out the version number of a package in the ubuntu repo?
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> baxx  apt policy [package]
[22:24] <Bashing-om> donofrio: Note HWE .
[22:25] <baxx> MonkeyDust: ok cool thanks
[22:25] <Bashing-om> !hwe
[22:25] <baxx> MonkeyDust: if i've installed from a PPA, will this tell me info about that ppa ( as in, the PPA will redirect this command ), or will it still tell me about the main repo version?
[22:27] <baxx> will purge work on something that's been installed from a PPA ?
[22:27] <oerheks> use synaptic for detailed softwarecenter and filter
[22:28] <oerheks> newest version gets priority, AFAIK
[22:28] <baxx> oerheks: newest version of what, ?
[22:28] <baxx> I just installed from a PPA, but I want to remove that and install from the repo
[22:28] <baxx> ( installed texlive )
[22:29] <oerheks> oh, ppa-purge would do that
[22:29] <Bashing-om> !ppa | baxx
[22:29] <oerheks> reverse packages, if available
[22:29] <oerheks> no, the !ppapurge factoid
[22:29] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge
[22:30] <oerheks> you might need to logout/login after that
[22:31] <baxx> ok cool - will that clean up what was installed by that PPA as well? Or just remove it from sources?
[22:31] <baxx> seems it'll clean up, cool ( i think )
[22:32] <baxx> http://vpaste.net/q5q3o  seems to suggest they do at least
[22:33] <Bashing-om> baxx: But bear in mind nothing but you will touch config files in your /home directory .
[22:33] <donofrio> why is 17.04 older than 16.04?
[22:33] <oerheks> donofrio, huh?
[22:33] <baxx> Bashing-om: you mean in my users ~/ directory ( where Documents etc is, .bashrc and such ) ?
[22:34] <Bashing-om> donofrio: 16.04 == year 2016 and the 4th (04) month .
[22:34] <donofrio> it says 17.04 is april 2017 16.04 is auguest? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[22:34] <Bashing-om> baxx: Yepper .. if any reside . It is yours, and nothing will invade "your" space .
[22:35] <donofrio> just trying to find out why no LTS for 17.04 is all I guess
[22:35] <baxx> Bashing-om: OK cool, so if there were any files installed before In ~/ , then purging won't affect / remove them
[22:35] <oerheks> you have been told 17.04 will not be LTS. and read carefull, 16.04.3 point release.
[22:36] <Bashing-om> baxx: Correct .. that may or may not be a good thing .
[22:36] <baxx> Bashing-om: yeah, hm - i'll check after there's not too much in there. Cheers
[22:38] <Bashing-om> donofrio: A LTS is released on a 2 year cycle . 14 -16 - 18 . Those in between are supported for 9 months .
[22:40] <ducasse> !release | donofrio
[22:56] <noid> Hello
[23:00] <noid> Ubuntu is good
[23:00] <Toadisattva> ubuntu IS good
[23:01] <noid> But linux is not so good...
[23:01] <noid> :P It is hard
[23:01] <capella> noid?
[23:01]  * capella used to know one :)
[23:02] <noid> I'm just writing something I just managed to connect to this IRC thing
[23:02] <Toadisattva> at the end of the day whether you run a linux distro or windoze or an apple os or android or what have you it still boils down to a google search of "how do I fix this error"
[23:02] <Toadisattva> lol
[23:02] <noid> Toadisattva, lol, true :)
[23:02] <noid> What do you talk about in here? Ubuntu in general... I guess?
[23:03] <ducasse> noid: this channel is for technical support, for chitchat register and join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:04] <noid> ducasse, OK thanks
[23:11] <baxx> after going through the process of removing a PPA and installing from the repo, how to insure that everythings ok?
[23:11] <baxx> it seemed to install a bit quickly for the size of it ( texlive-full )
[23:19] <RalphBa>  if someone good with system architecture design has a bit time and would like to help me with an architectural decision please read https://pastebin.com/6b9pr02p and pm me
[23:19] <bazhang> RalphBa, ask here
[23:20] <RalphBa> bazhang, I post this in the hope that a good software architect reads it
[23:21] <bazhang> RalphBa, better to give us a synopsis in channel first
[23:21] <RalphBa> its not really about ubuntu, but the chance is pretty high that one of the rare guys catches it
[23:21] <bazhang> RalphBa, is it about hardware
[23:21] <RalphBa> no about creating a runtime
[23:22] <RalphBa> I'm speaking about software architecture
[23:22] <bazhang> RalphBa, then ask here and give us lots of details
[23:22] <RalphBa> well in that text is a lot of info, but I fear I should not post that all in here
[23:23] <RalphBa> it is about a programming paradigm I'm about to design
[23:23] <RalphBa> I think organic programming describes it best
[23:24] <bazhang> take it step by step RalphBa , this is an in channel support issue placee, not a PM me one
[23:25] <pauljw> doesn't look like an ubuntu support issue from here, RalphBa
[23:25] <RalphBa> no
[23:26] <RalphBa> how said, its a post for the rare guys, and since I do not know where they are I have to place it on locations the rare guys might see it and get interessted
[23:26] <RalphBa> if I'm lucky
[23:27] <bazhang> RalphBa, since it's not topical, you can try the chat channel or the appropriate place
[23:28] <RalphBa> chat channel?
[23:28] <RalphBa> well, whats the appropriate place?
[23:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic RalphBa
[23:29] <bazhang>  /msg alis list term RalphBa
[23:29] <bazhang> to find one
[23:29] <RalphBa> ?
[23:30] <RalphBa> that sound not good what you wrote, I fear something bad might happen
[23:31] <bazhang> RalphBa, it's the freenode services listing service
[23:31] <RalphBa> ah, term is term not short for terminate
[23:31] <RalphBa> sorry...
[23:32] <RalphBa> you have to admit that looks suspicious :D
[23:38] <hfp> Hi! I just put coreboot on my ThinkPad x230. It went well and I can boot into memtest, coreinfo, and tint. However, if I select to boot from my hard drive, it stays stuck a booting from disk. The OS is Ubuntu 17.04 with full disk encryption, with the Lenovo BIOS, it took me to a prompt to unlock the disk and boot. If I boot from USB, I can get Ubuntu to run from the LiveUSB. I suspect it is a bootloader
[23:38] <hfp> problem rather than a BIOS problem but I'm not certain. How do I fix it?
[23:39] <Toadisattva> is secureboot enabled in the BIOS? I know that can conflict with disk encryption
[23:42] <hfp> Toadisattva: coreboot doesn't do secureboot at all
[23:43] <Toadisattva> ah I see