[08:52] <dr_willis> now you are back to setting up your repos.. which is why you fired up synaptic and CHECKED those 2 box's - you may of needed to UPDATE the package listing after checking those
[08:52] <manu__> UQlev i don't undestand you
[08:52] <UQlev> manu__, what key? WEP or WPA?
[08:52] <manu__> WEP
[08:52] <pacman> now synaptic doesn't want to run anymore
[08:52] <manu__> Hexa 128bytes
[08:52] <dr_willis> so in short.. sudo synaptic, check those 2 box's , update the package listing, then search for java
[08:52] <dr_willis> use sudo synaptic
[08:52] <dr_willis> :)
[08:53] <UQlev> what tool do you use to connect wifi? wifimanager under KDE?
[08:53] <manu__> UQlev no wirelessassistant
[08:53] <pacman> okay, I missed something then
[08:53] <pacman> which 2 boxes
[08:53] <pacman> *watches dr_willis pull his hair out*
[08:54] <UQlev> manu__, try to setup all parameters in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:54] <dr_willis> those 2 somewhere for comercial/unsupported  (those set up the MULTIVERSE and other repos)
[08:54] <intelikey> !repos > pacman
[08:54] <dr_willis> and yes - its a stupid name for them
[08:54] <UQlev> manu__, use small letters for your key
[08:54] <manu__> UQlev my networ are in DHCP
[08:54] <manu__> my key are numbers
[08:54] <dr_willis> or ya learn how to edit the sources.list :) and just uncomment the things like i do
[08:54] <UQlev> manu__, it is all right with static or dhcp
[08:55] <manu__> UQlev dhcp
[08:55] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[08:55] <dr_willis> with pictures! even!
[08:55] <UQlev> manu__, just setup for dhcp
[08:55] <dr_willis> 'non-free' = Multiverse
[08:55] <UQlev> manu__, read examples of config files for interfaces
[08:56] <manu__> when i delete the KEY for the AccesPoint I can connect without problem
[08:56] <manu__> perhaps if i change the KEY...
[08:56] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install sux
[08:56] <pacman> commer-dev I found
[08:57] <tuxedup> I dont suppose anyone has the tango icon theme for kde do they.  I tried to do it my self but it complained about imagemick
[08:57] <manu__> thanks for all
[08:57] <manu__> ;)
[08:57] <UQlev> manu__, if you delete the KEY everyone beside you may use your AP
[08:57] <ubuntu> so i'm trying to install kubuntu from the kubuntu live CD.  I've tried pokeing around with the help files and on the internet, but havent really seen anything about installing kubuntu from the live cd.  so can anyone tell me how to do it?
[08:57] <manu__> yes yes but if i don't delete the key i can't connect to my network
[08:58] <manu__> UQlev the trouble is my KEY
[08:58] <Freddy2> ubuntu: you have a shortcut in the desktop by default
[08:58] <intelikey> ubuntu you click the install icon
[08:58] <manu__> i try to put sudo iwconfig eth1 key s: KEY
[08:59] <intelikey> and the installer hoses your system for you, all automated and every thing.
[08:59] <intelikey> :)
[08:59] <K3B> mayby key open s:
[08:59] <K3B> "......"
[09:00] <Xera> lol, another question for ya, how do i upgrade KDE?
[09:00] <ubuntu> i'm not seeing the installer thing
[09:00] <ubuntu> where is it in particualr?  the k menue?
[09:00] <intelikey> it's the pointy clicky thingy way to render a box unusable = ubuntu live cd installer.
[09:00] <Freddy2> it's an icon called "install", in the top-left corner or the desktop
[09:01] <ubuntu> there are no icons on the desktop
[09:01] <Xera> Oo
[09:01] <intelikey> ubuntu on the desktop of the dapper live cd   if this is a breezy or before cd you can't install from it.    err not easily
[09:01] <Freddy2> oO
[09:01] <Xera> ur liveCD is probably mucked up
[09:02] <intelikey> Xera or eariler version
[09:02] <ubuntu> ok
[09:02] <Freddy2> i tried 6.06.1 LTS last week and all was fine..
[09:02] <intelikey> ubuntu if it's breezy or less  use the install cd to install it.
[09:03] <ubuntu> thanks
[09:06] <intelikey> while i thought the installer on the hoary install cd was krap  i must confess that every change made to it leading to the dapper live installer was 100% the wrong dirrection.
[09:07] <h3sp4wn> The knoppix / kanotix installer works really well (I don't know why they didn't use that)
[09:07] <soulrider> hi
[09:08] <intelikey> rather than the installer becoming more powerful and useful it became more clueless and useless
[09:08] <h3sp4wn> maybe they will start using the etch gui installer at some point in the future
[09:08] <intelikey> h3sp4wn i don't know either... maybe it was a 'pride' thing    "we use our own installer" ....  idk
[09:09] <dr_willis> the MEPIS installer is also very nice
[09:10] <intelikey> dr_willis by nice do you mean "does everything for you"   or  "lets you install anywhere and what ever you like"  kind of nice?    cause what some call nice translates to useless imo
[09:10] <soulrider> is anyon here in the fold@home team ?
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> nice to me installs as little as possible
[09:11] <h3sp4wn> but still allowing you the option of using apt to install anything you may want afterwards
[09:11] <intelikey> h3sp4wn or at least lets you choose what how and where you install
[09:11] <dr_willis> intelikey,  the mepis installer was flexavle enough to let me partition/format/setup the drives how i wanted. and w3asent so brain dead as to screw up my system :P
[09:12] <dr_willis> intelikey,  plus it dident let you set 'root' as the default 'first' user name either. :P
[09:12] <dr_willis> I still get issues with ubuntus update-grub stuff...
[09:12] <h3sp4wn> debootstrap is ok - but I don't see why it requires to install 300mb of stuff
[09:13] <crimsun> that's "base"
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> It still seems like it has more than it needs to
[09:13] <intelikey> dr_willis hehhe   root as first (default) user...  makes the rest of the setup easier.   :)
[09:14] <Xera> can someone give me a tutorial for upgrading KDE?
[09:14] <intelikey> h3sp4wn agreed   100m should be plenty for any base install.
[09:14] <K3B> how install Nessus??
[09:15] <intelikey> k3b i don't even want to talk to you.... i can't get k3b to work here.....   :)      sudo apt-get install nessus
[09:15] <intelikey> first half was joke ^
[09:16] <crimsun> back in the day one could debootstrap woody in the tens of megabytes. sigh.
[09:16] <intelikey> yeah.   but even now  when just the kernel is 70m  100m should be enough to get started.
[09:18] <intelikey> i mean look at dsl   that's running xorg  and only 50m
[09:18] <__osh___> If I think I've found a bug in the printer tool in the kde control center, where do I file it? Can't find anything called kprinter or similar. Anyone know?
[09:19] <dr_willis> intelikey,  and it totally breaks the sudo system :P
[09:20] <intelikey> sudo shmoo
[09:20] <intelikey> you can install sudo on it.
[09:21] <fernando_> hi! I have a brand new Kubuntu installation + Automatix but I can't watch some movies yet. I think it's a problem with the AC3 sound codec
[09:21] <dr_willis> smoo - command not found
[09:21] <dr_willis> :)
[09:21] <K3B> och really im write what you say and nothing intelikey ---
[09:22] <intelikey> you left the h out   lol
[09:22] <K3B> what are you say??---> great Ubuntu userr
[09:23] <fernando_> is there another AC3 codec available?
[09:23] <soulrider> !classroom
[09:23] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[09:24] <born> re
[09:24] <__osh___> fernando_: dont' think so. does sound work at all on your machine? can you play the oggs? next thing to try, can you play any mp3s?
[09:24] <born> in which repository can i find the sun-java5 and nonfree-flashplayer packages?
[09:24] <__osh___> !tell born about easyubuntu
[09:24] <fernando_> I can play music, mp3s, but some videos AVI with AC3 codec are the trouble
[09:25] <intelikey> !info nessus
[09:25] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.6-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 215 kB, installed size 568 kB
[09:25] <intelikey> K3B are you telling me that you typed in     sudo apt-get install nessus       and it did nothing ?
[09:26] <intelikey> i didn
[09:26] <K3B> yes
[09:26] <__osh___> fernando_: dunno. I've installed everything like that from easyubuntu and I have no trouble with any movies. Not that I watch that many anyway. Btw stay away from Starship troopers 2, Bloodrayne and Doom. They're all crap.
[09:27] <fernando_> torrent videos but with AC3 sound, and I already installed everything I saw at the ubuntu-guides and so
[09:27] <intelikey> K3B type   sudo echo 'yes it works'      and see what happens
[09:27] <danish> is there a simple way to install themes in kubuntu. like we install firefox extensions and themes  is there something similar in kde
[09:27] <intelikey> if it tells you       yes it works      good, if not your sudo is broke.
[09:28] <K3B> i don't know why but nessus can't install on my platform
[09:28] <intelikey> your platform ?
[09:28] <K3B> intelikey you joke it's no more fany
[09:29] <intelikey> no joke.
[09:29] <intelikey> only the first line was any joke.
[09:30] <mTec[s] nzk`insta> How do I create a bootable cd?
[09:31] <K3B> ok so in the moment i know nothing how install nessus
[09:32] <intelikey> simple test for sudo to make sure that sudo works is to type " sudo echo 'yes' "   if it asks password and then says  yes   then it works.  if it doesn't say  yes   it's sudo  that needs fixed.       if sudo works we check your /etc/apt/sources.list  file k3b
[09:33] <K3B> thanks
[09:33] <K3B> mayby it's can work
[09:33] <K3B> ok i must leave
[09:33] <K3B> papapap
[09:34] <intelikey> i think i better go.  storm is getting really heavy here.
[09:41] <galorin> Got a question for yall...  I cleared out the dust from my PC, that's all that I did.  Then, after I put the side back on, the PC wouldn't even POST.  Had to move a card from one PCI slot to another one to get it to boot.  Why?!?
[09:42] <flo__> can someone help me install vmware-olayer? apt-get install gives me thiss error dpkg: errore processando /var/cache/apt/archives/vmware-player_1.0.1-4_i386.deb (--unpack)
[09:43] <danish> galorin: if u used a brush a string of hair might have gotten stuck btwn slots which is shot circuting that particular area
[09:43] <abattoir> flo__: there should be more of that error... could you pastebin it... ?
[09:43] <abattoir> !pastebin
[09:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:44] <flo__> right away
[09:45] <flo__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21229
[09:46] <galorin> danish, no brushes, just air.
[09:47] <abattoir> flo__: see line 12
[09:47] <abattoir> flo__:  license could not be presented; aborting
[09:47] <flo__> yes but why?
[09:48] <flo__> i'vd tried with the tar installer and i cant get to read the license
[09:49] <flo__> it stops here
[09:49] <flo__> Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file
[09:49] <flo__> /etc/init.d/vmware.
[09:49] <flo__> Execution aborted.
[09:49] <abattoir> flo__: well... for some reason the EULA thing is not loaded
[09:49] <flo__> oops sorry
[09:50] <abattoir> flo__: hm... is this for the deb or the tar?
[09:50] <flo__> sorry but i'm a newbe in the linux world ,whats eula?
[09:51] <abattoir> flo__: that's actually a more MS-ish term.. End-User License agreement :)
[09:51] <__osh__> flo__: end user license agreement. the thing you just click "yes" on when you install  new software in ms-land.
[09:51] <otaku-san> flo_: in other words...the evil
[09:51] <saltro> alguien que hable en espaol?
[09:51] <__osh__> !es
[09:52] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:52] <flo__> abattoir: my problem is that it's not showing me anny license and for that i cannot acceptit
[09:52] <saltro> holaaaa
[09:52] <flo__> sorry for my english either
[09:52] <saltro> alguieb por ahi ?
[09:53] <flo__> any idees
[09:53] <otaku-san> __osh__: true so true....heheh sorry been around to many hard core linux users
[09:53] <Freddy2> saltro: ya te han dicho que hay canales para espaol.. este canal es para hablar en ingles
[09:54] <abattoir> flo__: one  sec... i'll try installing to see if that helps
[09:54] <Polarbeer> I need help burning an audio cd with K3b from mp3 files. It claims that they can't be burned "due to an unsupported format".
[09:54] <flo__> thx
[09:55] <flo__> abattoir: thx for the help
[09:55] <saltro> freddy si cache solo keria saber si ahbia alguien de mi pais no te preocupes que me voy altiro ;)
[09:55] <saltro> ok men
[09:56] <__osh__> !tell saltro about es
[09:57] <otaku-san> ....I don't think theres a ubotu for that...heheh ;)
[09:57] <dragonkh> grisha_: heya - thanks for the help earlier I now have my dual head running nicely :)
[09:57] <otaku-san> oh and he did...I just was able to understand from there conversation what they said
[09:58] <grisha_> dragonkh: yw
[09:58] <otaku-san> *just able too
[09:58] <dragonkh> grisha_: do you know anything about compiz :)
[09:58] <abattoir> !info libk3b2mp3
[09:58] <ubotu> Package libk3b2mp3 does not exist in dapper
[09:58] <grisha_> dragonkh: nope
[09:58] <abattoir> !info libk3b2-mp3
[09:58] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:59] <abattoir> Polarbeer: do you have that installed? ^^^^
[09:59] <Polarbeer> dunno, let me check...
[09:59] <abattoir> flo__: i'm not exactly on a fast connection... so it might take some time...
[09:59] <dragonkh> :)
[09:59] <__osh__> !info drupal
[09:59] <ubotu> drupal: fully-featured content management/discussion engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5.8-1 (dapper), package size 476 kB, installed size 1944 kB
[10:00] <flo__> abattoir: i can wait
[10:00] <abattoir> flo__: ok :)
[10:00] <Polarbeer> abattoir: no i haven't
[10:00] <abattoir> Polarbeer: ok, then please install it :)
[10:00] <__osh__> Now that's a shame. Drupal 4.5.8 is an ancient version.  I think the #drupal guys are at 4.7 something.
[10:01] <Polarbeer> ok
[10:01] <alex_> sorry i have a stupid question, but how to get symbols like the dust bin and my home directory on my desktop??????????
[10:01] <abattoir> Polarbeer: that is needed for k3b to decode the mp3s
[10:01] <Polarbeer> I see
[10:01] <I_Died_Once> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[10:01] <abattoir> !adept crash fix
[10:01] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this command in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[10:01] <abattoir> I_Died_Once: try the 'sudo fuser...' command
[10:02] <abattoir> alex_: you can drag and drop them from the menu to your desktop....
[10:02] <Polarbeer> abattoir: you are my hero of the day! thank you a thousand times!
[10:03] <I_Died_Once> I still get the same error
[10:03] <abattoir> Polarbeer: no problem :)
[10:03] <abattoir> I_Died_Once: do you have another instance of adept/apt-get/synaptic/aptitude running?
[10:04] <I_Died_Once> no, i've restarted the system several times since getting it and coming here
[10:04] <Agios> delete the lok files
[10:04] <Agios> lock
[10:04] <I_Died_Once> where are they?
[10:05] <alex_> it doesnt work?
[10:05] <I_Died_Once> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock  - - did not work
[10:06] <abattoir> alex_: you mean the drag and drop doesnt work?
[10:06] <Agios> /var/lib/dpkg/
[10:06] <Agios> there are two IIRC
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> rm lock
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> /var/lib/dpkg$ ls
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> alternatives   cmethopt        info     parts             status
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> available      diversions      lock     statoverride      status-old
[10:07] <I_Died_Once> available-old  diversions-old  methods  statoverride-old  updates
[10:08] <alex_> no
[10:08] <alex_> it doesnt work!
[10:09] <I_Died_Once> bleh, its about time to reinstall a new flavor of linux anyway
[10:10] <abattoir> flo__: can you re-try installing the .deb... because i'm shown an EULA
[10:10] <ulixes> qualcuno italiano??
[10:11] <abattoir> !it
[10:11] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:11] <abattoir> ulixes: ^^^
[10:11] <abattoir> or flo__ could help you :P
[10:11] <ulixes> ok :D
[10:13] <flo__> abattoir: did u use adept?
[10:13] <abattoir> flo__: nope... apt-get
[10:13] <abattoir> flo__: it shouldnt work w/ adept... as it cant handle interactivity well
[10:13] <flo__> i'll try again!!!
[10:15] <flo__> abattoir: i think i can doit with synaptic :-)
[10:16] <abattoir> flo__: hmmm... i dont know... from what i've heard synaptic doesnt do that well either... but then i havent tried...so dont know
[10:18] <flo__> donnit...the console inside synaptic works well it seems, thx for the help
[10:18] <abattoir> flo__: ok... np :)
[10:22] <Ademan> ubuntu has no "registry" like windows right? or one that can be modified by any old program right? its only for configuring gnome... right?
[10:23] <abattoir> Ademan: linux doesn't work like windows... hence no registry... about gnome configuration, i think you are better off asking at #ubuntu
[10:24] <Ash-Fox> !adsl
[10:24] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[10:24] <Ash-Fox> !pppoa
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pppoa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <kim_> Hello
[10:29] <dragonkh> hi
[10:29] <kim_> Can someone help me with a Konqueror issue?
[10:30] <dragonkh> whats up ?
[10:31] <kim_> well... whenever I click a link on a PHP site (that leads to another PHP page), Konqueror doesnt know what to do with the link... it asks me if it should open it in Kate or download it :S
[10:31] <fdoving> that's a server problem, most likely.
[10:32] <fdoving> kim_: does for example: http://frode.kde.no/ip.php work?
[10:32] <kim_> it happens on several sites, ubuntuforums is one of them
[10:32] <fdoving> oh.. ok.. hang on then.
[10:33] <kim_> fdoving, the page works, but if I would click a link... it would complain
[10:33] <fdoving> kim_: ok, understand. did you edit filetypes for konqueror?
[10:33] <kim_> fdoving, no. It started happening after I upgraded to KDE 3.5.4
[10:34] <fdoving> kim_: ah.. kde 3.5.4 on dapper has some issues.
[10:34] <kim_> fdoving, ahaa :/
[10:34] <kim_> fdoving, any way to fix it?
[10:35] <fdoving> kim_: anyway.. if you open konqueror -> configure konqueror -> file associations -> search for php
[10:35] <D4rkly> anyone know how i can manually install the w32 codecs ? cant see them in adept ?
[10:35] <fdoving> kim_: what do you have there?
[10:35] <kim_> fdoving, I will look
[10:35] <kim_> fdoving, x-php
[10:36] <kim_> fdoving, no application is assosiated with it..
[10:36] <fdoving> kim_: ok, what about the embeded tab?
[10:37] <flo__> abattair: i'm installing window$$ on vmware this way i can  view the zbrush site that usses flash9 (these suns of a %&&%$) kubuntu roks
[10:37] <Ademan> abattoir: so i can simply delete all of the files and directories the program created? (as long as it wasnt installed through a package manager) ?
[10:37] <kim_> fdoving, "Ask whether to save to disk instead" is checked. and the only entry in Services is "Embeded Advanced Text Editor"
[10:37] <slow-motion> n8
[10:37] <Freddy2> fdoving: i think it's only for local files, not for links inside the web browser
[10:38] <fdoving> Freddy2: that depends.
[10:38] <luxlux> is the current apt.sources accurate? or did i need to use mirrors?
[10:39] <leticia> hola
[10:39] <kim_> hola
[10:39] <leticia> soy nueva
[10:39] <Freddy2> #kubuntu-es para hablar en espaol
[10:41] <leticia> es que tengo una mierdita de modem.. y estoy probando todas las cositas de linux.......
[10:41] <leticia> por linux digo
[10:41] <fdoving> !es
[10:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:41] <leticia> ok.......
[10:41] <waspius> i just reinstalled kubuntu and i am setting it up...whick is the proper xine player?
[10:42] <Freddy2> "proper xine player"???
[10:42] <waspius> apt-get install xine what?
[10:42] <Freddy2> hmm i use adept and mplayer.. sorry XD
[10:43] <waspius> xine is for dvd etc
[10:43] <Freddy2> mplayer too
[10:43] <fdoving> waspius: the good old xine player is in the 'xine-ui' package.
[10:43] <waspius> fdoving: ok thanx allot
[10:43] <Freddy2> but mplayer rox
[10:43] <Freddy2> XD
[10:45] <kim_> fdoving, I fixed it. The problem was with HTML. so I set it to embed HTML in the same window using KHTML
[10:45] <kim_> fdoving, now it works! =D
[10:45] <fdoving> kim_: great! :)
[10:46] <waspius> fdoving: i installed but it came up twice in multimedia menu:(
[10:46] <fdoving> kim_: that's logical, as php scripts spit out html, just me not thinking. :)
[10:47] <kim_> fdoving, lol. Well, the error is also mine then since I knew that PHP is translated to html by the server...
[10:51] <kiwi> khkjhkjh
[10:53] <kiwi> hmmm what is this
[10:54] <jarska> hi guys
[10:54] <kiwi> hello
[10:54] <jarska> I'm having a problem with kaffeine media player
[10:54] <kiwi> your not the only one
[10:55] <jarska> orly :D do ya guys know how to fix it?
[10:55] <StrudelNinja____> Is kde-look.org the best place to look for kde themes?
[10:55] <StrudelNinja____> I was having problems with amaroK, I unintalled and reinstalled and it fixed them
[10:56] <Freddy2> StrudelNinja____: that's a great place, yes
[10:56] <jarska> this says something like "error while loading a library or an unpacker. dvixc32.dll
[10:57] <Freddy2> jarska: try mplayer
[10:57] <jarska> hmm...
[10:58] <D4rkly> if i try and play a .mov the sound is very slow and lots of clicking ??
[10:58] <D4rkly> http://images.apple.com/movies/wb/the_wicker_man/the_wicker_man_1080p.mov
[11:00] <StrudelNinja____> and how can I find out my KDE version? if possible?
[11:00] <Freddy2> well, go to konqueror / help / about kde (for example)
[11:00] <StrudelNinja____> ah
[11:00] <StrudelNinja____> that was obvious ><
[11:12] <ulixes> a question
[11:12] <ulixes> how to register a nick?
[11:13] <ulixes> i do not remeber
[11:13] <ulixes> the command
[11:13] <Freddy2> /msg nickserv help
[11:13] <ulixes> ok thz
[11:14] <jarska> i just installed my mplayer but i cant find it,
[11:14] <jarska> sorry i'm beeing noob.
[11:15] <Freddy2> jarska: which mplayer?
[11:15] <jarska> mplayer.
[11:15] <jarska> :D
[11:15] <Freddy2> nono XD try in console -> which mplayer
[11:16] <jarska> thnx
[11:18] <Ryoga85> | bye all people on freenode | [amsg]
[11:19] <jarska> why nothing happens when i try to open mplayer?
[11:19] <jarska> on konqueror
[11:19] <jarska> *in.
[11:20] <Freddy2> mplayer is a command line program
[11:20] <Freddy2> if you want gui try gmplayer
[11:20] <Freddy2> but better check if it works at command line.. it's possible that you need to install some codec packs
[11:21] <cvasilak> people please update your kubuntu with the latest packages from beerokid in particular the libfreetype stuff, the fonts now look AWESOME, REALLY AWESOME!!!
[11:21] <jarska> i am so fucked up with this linux.
[11:22] <Hawkwind> jarska: Easy on the language please
[11:22] <jarska> hawkwind: k
[11:22] <Search4Lancer__> anyone know how I can get pics off my Sony camera via USB?  Good night.
[12:02] <mr_clark> Hi guys. I installed Debian and upgraded kde to 3.5.4 from Kubuntu packages. How do I select 3.5.4 in Debian? When I restart X I still get 3.3.
[12:02] <rOOb> hello all i kinda want to try xgl and everything so im folllowing this how-to : http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=617.0 and i added the deb repos recomended but when i use apt-get update i get this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/61 how can i fix this any ideas?
[12:03] <Freddy2> hmm are debian and kubuntu repositories "compatible"?
[12:03] <mr_clark> I thought they were. Am I wrong?
[12:04] <crimsun> generally, no, unless you mean source-wise, in which case the answer is "only sometimes."
[12:04] <waspius> hi...if i install build-essentials do i need anything else with it?
[12:05] <mr_clark> okay. Then that probably explains the problems I'm having. So is there a way to get 3.5 on Debian without installing Kubuntu. Yes, I know thats a risky question to ask in a Kubuntu channel.
[12:05] <Hawkwind> rOOb: As the how-to on my forums state, you need to import the keys.  It's merely a warning letting you know that you don't have the right gpg key imported for the repo.  It won't hurt anything if you ignore it
[12:05] <Hawkwind> waspius: Depends....most likely not.  But it all depends on what the app you are wanting to compile needs/requires
[12:05] <waspius> ie..do i need to install any dependencies it might have?
[12:06] <Hawkwind> mr_clark: Might ask in #Debian since that channel is geared towards their distro
[12:06] <rOOb> Hawkwind, i dont see any where it says how to import the keys?
[12:06] <Hawkwind> waspius: If you use sudo apt-get install build-essentials it will install the deps for you
[12:06] <waspius> Hawkwind: ok thanx
[12:06] <Hawkwind> rOOb: It doesn't tell you that.  Just ignore it.  It's not going to hurt anything
[12:07] <rOOb> Hawkwind, k.....i just wanted to make sure that they where added..
[12:07] <Hawkwind> rOOb: Look at the post on the LFD forums that has the sources.list  and grab a command from there and modify it
[12:08] <rOOb> k will do that thanks man
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> mr_clark: sid has 3.5.4 - etch has 3.5.3


[00:25] <Enissay> I am struggling to make bluetooth work on my win10 guest machine... any pointers ?
[00:25] <Enissay> on virtualbox*
[00:35] <Enissay> nevermind, i'll get a dongle :x
[00:37] <UndrWater> how does one enable tab completion for systemd services? IOW, systemctl start serv <tab> <--should complete to some service name that starts with 'ser'
[00:38] <UndrWater> google is not helping me much, or my google-fu is poor. see a lot of similar questions, but no relevant solutions
[00:39] <UndrWater> Enissay: that sounds more like a virtualbox question than ubuntu. is the BT controller working in ubuntu?
[00:58] <topcat001> UndrWater: Use your shell's completion features, usually a package like bash-completion, etc.
[01:03] <UndrWater> topcat001: thanks for the hint!
[01:05] <UndrWater> got it working. thanks topcat001
[01:13] <jim> byte4byte, no... are you?
[02:04] <topcat001> UndrWater: yw
[02:11] <blahboybaz> I'm having a problem installing updates. I did submit a report with the automatic tool that comes up but would like to resolve this as quickly as possible as I have some other things I would like to move on to (installation and configuration on this machine) that I would feel better if this was fixed first. I made a paste here: https://dpaste.org/G6dVG
[02:11] <blahboybaz> I'm just not sure what the source of the problem is or I may (or may not) be able to resolve it
[02:12] <sarnold> blahboybaz: my first guess is you've got a full filesystem
[02:12] <blahboybaz> sarnold: that garbage with /boot filling up?
[02:12] <sarnold> yeah
[02:12] <blahboybaz> omg
[02:13] <blahboybaz> ok
[02:13] <sarnold> *maybe* the apt autoremove can help
[02:13] <blahboybaz> thanks
[02:13] <sarnold> I can't recall off hand if that can work when the thing is full
[02:13] <blahboybaz> I'll try that
[02:13] <sarnold> if it can't, it's not too hard to fix, but most people's first efforts make things worse
[02:13] <sarnold> so don't just go deleting things :)
[02:14] <blahboybaz> I'm just sick of manyally deleting kernels and I'm not comforatble with my ability to resize the directory (too big of a risk imho)
[02:14] <sarnold> yeah. that's so bloody annoying.
[02:15] <blahboybaz> someone check on the new guy before he messes up another directory
[02:15] <blahboybaz> :)
[02:15] <blahboybaz> lol
[02:15] <sarnold> hehehe
[02:15] <sarnold> did you have any luck with the apt autoremove?
[02:16] <blahboybaz> oh.. woops! I guess it was kernels listed in the stuff to autoremove (I fialed to notice)
[02:16] <blahboybaz> working on it
[02:17] <sarnold> *nod*
[02:18] <blahboybaz> sarnold: well.. when I run `sudo apt upgrade` I do not see any output indicating an incomplete install (and that seems wrong to me - like there should be and then go through the process or completing the install)
[02:18] <sarnold> blahboybaz: how about apt install -f ?
[02:18] <blahboybaz> I'll try that
[02:19] <Bashing-om> blahboybaz: In that case ^ ... see what the package manager thinks ' sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C '
[02:21] <blahboybaz> sarnold: In both cases I get the (final) line of ouput `0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded` which usually means all is well but I would expect to get told there is something not completely installed and have to give apt permission to finish it up. Tried both sudo apt upgrade` and `sudo apt install -f`
[02:21] <sarnold> blahboybaz: Bashing-om's got the magic incantation :)
[02:22] <blahboybaz> `sudo apt -f install` same as described in my last post `sudo dpkg -C` new command line (no output)
[02:22] <blahboybaz> :)
[02:22] <blahboybaz> the right incantation eh?
[02:23] <blahboybaz> hold on I got an idea
[02:24] <Bashing-om> blahboybaz: sarnold: Been here just a few times :D // blahboybaz ' ls -al /boot/ ' what shows for vmlinuz and initrd.img ?
[02:25] <sarnold> blahboybaz: do you do any snapshotting or similar there? I really don't know lvm / md stuff at all, all zfs over here..
[02:26] <sarnold> blahboybaz: I've had zfs snapshots make a full /boot friggen miserable to repair
[02:26] <blahboybaz> `dpkg --list | grep linux-image` shows  `linux-image-5.15.0-60-generic` in the output (the same package shown in the paste as being not completely installed).  But whether is is completely configured correctly (the install is complete) is another question?
[02:26] <blahboybaz> Bashing-om: just saw your post - I'll check
[02:27] <blahboybaz> sarnold: I think its a pretty default install
[02:29] <blahboybaz> This is my ouput from running `ls -al /boot`: https://dpaste.org/mE0ZA
[02:29] <blahboybaz> Bashing-om: ^
[02:29] <blahboybaz> sorry
[02:31] <sarnold> blahboybaz: so, manually fixing things isn't terrible, but it's slightly obnoxious
[02:31] <blahboybaz> sarnold: jsut that it seems to be coming up frequently
[02:32] <sarnold> blahboybaz: start a root bash shell with: sudo -s  --- then, > vmlinuz-5.11.0-40-generic   ; > System.map-5.11.0-40-generic ; > System.map-5.15.0-41-generic ; > initrd.img-5.11.0-40-generic ; > initrd.img-5.15.0-41-generic  ; > config-5.11.0-40-generic ; > config-5.15.0-41-generic
[02:33] <sarnold> blahboybaz: then you'll have loads of free space and can apt purge 'linux-*5.15.0-40*' 'linux-*5.15.0-41*'
[02:33] <blahboybaz> what does that do? I know the first part is almost the same as using sudo (entering a root shell) but what is the other stuff?
[02:33] <sarnold> blahboybaz: pick whichever versions you want to remove, of course -- I like to keep whatever is newest, and whatever is currently running
[02:33] <sarnold> blahboybaz: in bash, using:   > filename    will *truncate* the file
[02:33] <blahboybaz> I want to keep the current kernel and one kernel back. I could care less about memtest
[02:33] <blahboybaz> truncate means delete?
[02:34] <sarnold> blahboybaz: if you remove the file, dpkg is *unhappy* and won't just delete the package
[02:34] <sarnold> blahboybaz: but truncating it will free up all the disk space but leave the file in place
[02:35] <blahboybaz> sarnold: so its like releasing the space without removing the file and it will eventually be overwritten?
[02:35] <sarnold> blahboybaz: well... the file name, owner, permission, etc all stick around. the data is gone.
[02:36] <sarnold> blahboybaz: it's not that different from deleting and then touching the filename, but that's a bit annoying, because you can't just tab complete it once it's gone :)
[02:36] <blahboybaz> sarnold: so its like turning it into an empty files
[02:36] <blahboybaz> emptying the files out
[02:36] <sarnold> blahboybaz: yeah
[02:37] <blahboybaz> sarnold: And the system thinks the space is available even though the files are there?
[02:37] <blahboybaz> I guess it would if the files are 0kb size
[02:37] <sarnold> blahboybaz: yeah, the files only take up a few bytes to keep track of the permissions
[02:38] <blahboybaz> sarnold: I see
[02:38] <blahboybaz> well.. what could it hurt?
[02:38] <blahboybaz> :)
[02:39] <sarnold> blahboybaz: in this case, the goal is to let dpkg delete the files in a few seconds, so it should hurt nothing :)
[02:43] <blahboybaz> sarnold: I had to to do a little checking to make sure I understand what my current kernel is. I'll run that
[02:43] <sarnold> blahboybaz: uname -a is my usual go-to
[02:45] <blahboybaz> sarnold: yeah I did the -r flag (is that the same info you get with that)? So is there a way to verify whether the kernel that was supposed to be installed - the one that was "not completly installe" when I came here - is COMPLETELY installed?
[02:46] <byte4byte> jim, i heard you sold out debian for ubuntu, had to verify for myself
[02:47] <blahboybaz> whoa.. what is this? The debian mafia coming for you if you change distros?
[02:47] <blahboybaz> :)
[02:47] <sarnold> blahboybaz: I *think* if you've got initrd, vmlinuz, System.map files for that version in /boot, then it'll be "installed". but dkms is a wrinkle I don't know well.
[02:47] <blahboybaz> oh ok
[02:47] <sarnold> blahboybaz: maybe try dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc
[02:47] <sarnold> I think that'll show 'weird' package states
[02:47] <blahboybaz> So the next time I shut down my computer its gonna fire up again --right?
[02:47] <blahboybaz> :s
[02:48] <sarnold> I sure hope so :)
[02:48] <blahboybaz> I'll look at taht
[02:48] <blahboybaz> me too
[02:48] <blahboybaz> :)
[04:45] <ladymorgan> OK do it has been trouble and not the system crashes daily. Probably from chrome with many tabs. LINUX SHOULD BE STABLE  but the mort probable thing a user would do crashes the system. This is not right. I would like someone to look at the errors that show up as it boots but I dont know where this is. This is the thrid time I have asked this here over the past couple of weeks so that's the charm.
[04:50] <Bashing-om> ladymorgan: ' journalctl -b -0 ' shows messages from the current boot -- /var/log/syslog is another that might prrof of value.
[04:51] <arraybolt3> ladymorgan: How much RAM does your system have?
[04:51] <ladymorgan> When I get this I will put it here because I cant understand what they mean. BRB just booted
[04:51] <arraybolt3> Oh, wait. You're the same morgan I'm used to seeing. So we know that this is indeed OOM problems.
[04:52] <arraybolt3> You probably still haven't cleaned out your browser tabs I'm guessing.
[04:52] <arraybolt3> You may want to make a bigger swapfile, that might fix the problem.
[04:53] <ladymorgan> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/PxGyfpnf2n/
[04:54] <ladymorgan> What is "cleaned out my browser tabs"
[04:54] <ladymorgan> How do I make a bigger swapfile?
[04:55] <ladymorgan> I have been having "this" problem for 3 years.. but before 22.04 it would slow down to near freezing.  Linux shouldnt fail because some program is bad.  Whatever happened to not having to reboot for months?
[04:55] <ladymorgan> stability aint us any more.
[04:56] <ladymorgan> I have eight gigs of ram.
[04:56] <sarnold> $ uptime
[04:56] <sarnold>  04:56:24 up 101 days, 19:11,  4 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[04:56] <ladymorgan> what is an OOM problem
[04:56] <sarnold> $ uptime
[04:56] <sarnold>  20:55:56 up 93 days, 14:16,  4 users,  load average: 0.28, 0.17, 0.16
[04:57] <arraybolt3> ladymorgan: OOM = out of memory. You have too many tabs open and active and your system is running out of RAM to hold all the data.
[04:58] <arraybolt3> In the past, Linux would freeze because it was desparately trying to stay running.
[04:58] <sarnold> ladymorgan: that's just the first portion of your boot logs; usually those logs are more useful if you start at the very end and read backwards
[04:58] <arraybolt3> Now, in 22.04, systemd-oomd is there to kill a process that is threatening the system's ability to keep running.
[04:58] <ladymorgan> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/PxGyfpnf2n/   is lines 1 to 23 but I am not clear if that is all the lines there are.
[04:58] <arraybolt3> ladymorgan: So you have two options. One, make a bigger swapfile, which is fairly easy and I'm happy to walk you through. Two, cloes some of your browser tabs (I believe you have in excess of a thousand?).
[04:59] <sarnold> ladymorgan: try hitting 'G' in that pager, you might get to the end of the logs
[04:59] <ladymorgan> I do not have anywhere near a thousand lines and never did. I have 30 maybe a few more now
[05:00] <ladymorgan> I got there and there are3392 lines even though I just rebooted opened hexchat and opened chrome and restored chrome and did nothing else but hexchat.
[05:00] <arraybolt3> ladymorgan: Hmm... I thought you used to have multiple Chrome windows open with tons and tons of tabs and were wishing there was a way to mass-bookmark them?
[05:01] <arraybolt3> Maybe that was someone else.
[05:01] <ladymorgan> tons was 33 not thousands
[05:02] <ladymorgan> I wouldnt mind chaging my swapfile at all.
[05:02] <arraybolt3> Hmm. Odd. When was the last time you updated Chrome? It has a new memory saver feature in the latest versions. I have in excess of 50 tabs open along with a slew of applications and am under 4 GB of RAM consumption.
[05:02] <arraybolt3> Anyway, growing a swapfile is easy. Can you run "ls /swapfile"? That will verify that the swapfile exists where I expect it to be.
[05:02] <ladymorgan> doesnt chrome update augomagically when I update the system? Isnt that part of the linux magic?
[05:02] <arraybolt3> (That's a terminal command.)
[05:02] <arraybolt3> ladymorgan: It should, yes.
[05:03] <arraybolt3> Though you do need to restart Chrome for an update to take effect, but since it keeps crashing you're probably restarting it all the time.
[05:04] <ladymorgan> I just updated, rebooted, then soon it crashed. shrug. anyway 1. is the system flawed in any way. 2. incease my swapfile to ease my pain. 3. ...
[05:04] <ladymorgan> sarnold great, I will pastebin the end which is the beginning of the journal file. ??? wierd.
[05:05] <arraybolt3> It is the end of the journal file, but the end is where the critical data is. The start has data from earlier in time, when the system first booted. The end has data later in time, closer to where the Chrome crash occurred.
[05:05] <ladymorgan> nope the end of that file is NOT what I see at the beginning of boot. I have that in a photo of the screen. What is the photopastebin called?
[05:06] <arraybolt3> Correct, the end of the file is not what you see at the beginning of boot. That's why we want to see the end of the file, because it likely has the crash info.
[05:06] <arraybolt3> I usually use Imgur.com for sharing photos.
[05:14] <ladymorgan> OK this is what I saw on the screen before ubuntu started. https://imgur.com/a/rYICZXb
[05:19] <ladymorgan> The END of the file has the most recent times. Does the file continue thru reboots?
[05:25] <ladymorgan> anyway sarnold arraybolt3 here is the journalctl... as suggested. https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jchv7rgHPj/
[05:26] <ladymorgan> the end but a lot so that we, err you, wont miss stuff. I came back home around 7. rebooted and then it failed again.
[05:26] <ladymorgan> iir. I get (turns head in a circle, nose leading)
[06:07] <lubuntu> l
[06:15] <slavetococo> u
[06:15] <byte4byte> slavetococo, are you aware that jim ditched debian for ubuntu?
[06:16] <slavetococo> no
[06:16] <slavetococo> my ZNC no haz scrollback
[06:31] <ladymorgan> ok since I gave all the info and have expressed willingness to do those things and someone was going to guide me .. ok another day.
[06:34] <lexandrop> Hi! Any news about 22.04.2 ? Looks like release was planned to 2023-02-09, but I don't see anything about it so far.
[06:35] <ladymorgan> arraybolt3, ls /swafile results in /swapfile
[09:06] <clarkk> Why does this run periodically, randomly, on my Ubuntu 20.04 + Gnome 3.36.8 system?  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gstreamer1.0/gstreamer-1.0/gst-plugin-scanner -l /usr/bin/totem-video-thumbnailer
[09:20] <webchat30> Hey there i just installed ubuntu but my firefox wont launch launch
[09:21] <magnus1> hey! i recently upgraded a server (Dell PowerEdge R640) from Ubuntu 18.04 LTS to 22.04 LTS. It's mostly fine, but I noticed pushing docker images to a registry is _much_ slower (about 300% slower) on Ubuntu 22.04. I have tried to locate the bottleneck and found that gzipping a 10 GB file (gzip performance is cruical for docker push performance) is about 30% slower on ubuntu 22.04 compared to 18.04.
[09:21] <magnus1> At first I thought it was the various spectre/meltdown mitigations that comes with the new 5.15 kernel that contributed to performance degradation, but after disabling them (with kernel cmdline mitigations=off), i still see the issue. I can't seem to figure out what causes these extreme performance degradations. What I have found is that 1) it only happens on my PowerEdge R640 servers (not on my
[09:21] <magnus1> own computer, which also runs Ubuntu 22.04) and 2) if I downgrade to kernel 4.15, the gzip performance is restored
[09:22] <magnus1> (during my testing, I docker push to a local registry running on the same machine, .. so there is no networking involved at all.)
[09:24] <magnus1> I have also verified that my PowerEdge server is running the latest BIOS version. I use the same BIOS version as Ubuntu certification for PowerEdge R640 lists
[09:29] <Guest15> terminal auto completion is not working when I am working on the server at my uni running ubuntu connected using remmina
[09:32] <fruity_tomato> probably missing bash-completion package, Guest15
[09:39] <Guest15> i don't have sudo, can I install bash completion ?
[09:40] <Liowenex> Only if you're root
[09:43] <Guest15> i'm not
[09:45] <geirha> there should still be tab-completion with vanilla bash, just that it mainly just completes filenames by default (and users if preceded by ~, hostnames if preceded by @, variables if preceded by $ etc...)
[09:55] <Guest15> there is no filename completion as well
[09:58] <geirha> are you sure you're using bash?  what does   echo "$SHELL"  and   ps -p "$$"   output?
[10:01] <Guest15> https://bpa.st/SL7WG
[10:02] <geirha> ah, sh, which is dash by default, that explains it.  Try changing your login shell to bash by running the  chsh  command
[10:04] <geirha> dash does have tab-completion too, however ubuntu includes dash mainly for running sh-scripts, in which case such interactive features are redundant, so it's built without that capability to get a smaller binary.
[10:06] <Guest15> after the chsh command ?
[10:07] <Guest15> echo "$SHELL" is still /bin/sh
[10:07] <geirha> you changed it to /bin/bash?   it will take effect next time you log in
[10:08] <geirha> cat /etc/shells     lists the shells you are allowed to choose from
[10:13] <Guest15> thanks a lot, it worked
[10:14] <Guest15> thanks geirha
[10:15] <app-test> hay
[10:15] <app-test> Need review please https://t.co/NWL8cYD6Ml Thanks in advance
[11:12] <roberto_> film
[12:05] <oerheks> !danger/clear
[12:24] <sem> If I want to backup an entire system before I reinstall an OS, in case I don't like the new one and want to go back, can I do that with dd if=/ from a liveCD?
[12:24] <ravage> clonezilla is a much better tool for that
[12:27] <ravage> there is also https://relax-and-recover.org/ as a general backup strategy
[12:41] <sem> I'm hoping to use CLI or live-cd-pre-installed tools only
[12:42] <sem> I found this method using tar
[12:42] <sem> https://askubuntu.com/questions/7809/how-to-back-up-my-entire-system
[12:42] <sem> but relax and recover looks pretty nice
[12:45] <Ders> can we install window on ubuntu ?
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> yes we can
[12:47] <oerheks> No.
[13:10] <Ders> lotuspsychje: how
[13:12] <ravage> Ders: you cant install windows on ubuntu. you can create a virtual mashine in Ubuntu and install windows on that
[13:13] <ravage> see: gnome-boxes, virt-manager, virtualbox
[13:20] <oerheks> TheRedQueen, please enable that ban again..
[13:28] <hermano> Looking for a 'fan control utility' for a 'Dual GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti V2 OC Edition'. Read that the default 'nvidia settings
[13:29] <hermano>  woud have fan control under 'thermal settings' but I do not find that.
[13:35] <oerheks> why trying fancontrol? let the chipset take care of that
[13:37] <hermano> oerheks, Do you mean change the fan profile in BIOS? I kind of want to use the computer for office mostly and then have the machine as low sound of fans as possible. When and if I would play or do video editing, the fans can be loud.
[13:37] <hermano> oerheks, the GPU spins up and down, even though I am not doing anything that requires power from machine.
[13:38] <oerheks> i would not touch that, risk of breaking hardware
[13:46] <ptux> I have some problems with keyboard and mouse: if I press the CTRL key, it reduces the zoom of the internet browser, but also of the office suite. On the other hand, If I put the mouse pointer on the page swapper, or on the menu (app launcher), there is an almost infinite scrolling.
[13:47] <ptux> how do i fix this strange behavior?
[13:47] <sem> I am trying to use relax-and-restore for the first time, however I can't find isolinux.bin. I have tried apt install syslinux and also apt install isolinux, but I still don't find it with 'sudo find / isolinux.bin' what am I missing?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:54] <Swahili> Does anyone know how to check the current OS version to check if gt then X? I found this dpkg --compare-versions 0.9.8g-16ubuntu3.1 lt 0.9.8o-1ubuntu4.4 but have no idea how to get the os with this name
[15:03] <BluesKaj> cat /etc/os-release
[15:04] <Swahili> BluesKaj: although the format in the dpkg example seems to come from elsewhere, I wonder how they got that
[15:05] <clarkk> Why does this run periodically, randomly, on my Ubuntu 20.04 + Gnome 3.36.8 system?  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gstreamer1.0/gstreamer-1.0/gst-plugin-scanner -l /usr/bin/totem-video-thumbnailer
[15:06] <Swahili> hmm the dpkg seems to be not what I need
[15:06] <Swahili> its for packages
[17:20] <hermano> Need to remove a hid-generic device (pci soundcard) due to it blocks the bootup phase. Can I start with ubuntu usb stick and through grub inactivate the pci card?
[17:21] <byte4byte_> jim dandy
[17:22] <jim> as you can see, the troll has followed me again
[17:22] <leftyfb> byte4byte_: can we help you with something?
[17:23] <leftyfb> byte4byte_: this is a support channel. Please stay on topic. If you'd like to have offtopic discussions, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or private channels
[17:30] <Guest9> I installed ubuntu (the latest desktop iso) and installed if successfully at the second try(first from dvd didn't work) Then i tryed to open firefox, there is a firefox title but it then goes away after a minute or so. Then i installed chromium which on launch makes the gui completely broken, i'll add a video on yt.
[17:30] <Guest9> Thank you for any help.
[17:30] <Guest9> https://youtu.be/EmtNZ7mavQ4
[17:32] <tomreyn> !uptodate | Guest9
[17:32] <tomreyn> what's this hardware? how much RAM, which graphics card?
[17:33] <tomreyn> oh 2.1 GB RAM it say on your video. this may just not be enough for gnome
[17:34] <gebbione> hi all, i m getting error "[drm:nv_drm_master_set [nvidia_drm]] *ERROR* [nvidia-drm] [GPU ID 0x00000200] Failed to grab modeset ownership" and it causes the main monitor to not lit up. The secondary is ok. Most likely a recent kernel update but I am not sure because i tried to boot with an older kernel and didn't make any difference. Any suggestions?
[17:38] <respawn> gebbione: give more details like Mint version you are using and desktop
[17:38] <respawn> ups wrong channel
[17:38] <gebbione> lol
[17:38] <respawn> ubuntu version
[17:38] <gebbione> I am on 22.04.01
[17:42] <gebbione> any other info that might help?
[17:45] <tomreyn> bug 1963805 looks like it can be related
[17:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1963805 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-510 (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Failed to grab modeset ownership" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1963805
[17:45] <gebbione> i have 2 * 5.15  and 2 * 6.0.0 kernels and currently loaded with kernel 6.0.0-1011-oem.
[17:46] <gebbione> checking the bug, thank you
[17:47] <tomreyn> it doesn't seem to have a workaround there
[17:47] <gebbione> importance undecided, unassigned :(
[17:47] <gebbione> yep
[17:47] <gebbione> i don't see one
[18:07] <Guest9> tomreyn I apolgize for the long time of no response.
[18:07] <Guest9> The Hardware is an intel core 2 inside, 2gb 800mhz ram no external graphics card. Maxdata favorit 3000I is the whole build.
[18:08] <Guest9> tomreyn So you would say if i would get 16 gb, 4gb per slot it would work and it would be compatible?
[18:08] <oerheks> Guest9, and a proper videocard
[18:11] <Guest9> oerheks Really would that be neccesary, the thing should only act as a minecraft server?
[18:13] <tomreyn> Guest9: this is basically a museum piece. you could still use it as a server (install ubuntu server then), possibly with a tiled window manager, or with a much less demanding graphical desktop such as openbox.
[18:13] <oerheks> Now you don' t have a screen after boot, right?
[18:15] <tomreyn> they do, but web browsers cause graphics artifacts
[18:15] <Guest9> oerheks yes desktop will maybe be used to tweak some settings from vnc ciewer but no only a power cable lol
[18:16] <Guest9> tomreyn yeah i know it's pretty old, hope i can still use it.
[18:16] <Guest9> So i should rather install ubuntu server and then openbox? or is there something even more leightweight?
[18:17] <tomreyn> you could just install ubuntu server and not install openbox
[18:18] <Guest9> but then there is absolutely no gui right?
[18:18] <tomreyn> yes, but there's be a shell, much better!
[18:19] <Guest9> yeah, think i can handle this lol, mainly used windows but i have some experience with a raspberrypi
[18:52] <ladymorgana> I really liked being able to launch take-a-screenshot with my mouse from the dock. Any way to still do that on 22.04?
[18:52] <Blax> hi, is there anyone who can tell me the procedure for adding a second permanent ip with Netplan on a server with ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS ?
[18:53] <nb-ben> I've ordered a couple of 18TB Seagate Exos HDDs now that my 1TB NVMe SSD has filled up. I've pretty much made up my mind using a ZFS mirror for the HDDs and using the SSD for read/write cache. I'm not really familiar with these filesystems (zfs, btrfs etc) as all of these years I've just been installing ext3/ext4 and not giving it a second though. How is support for ZFS? Are there peculiarities I should
[18:53] <nb-ben> read about? Should I go with btrfs instead?
[18:53] <oerheks> ladymorgana, add the screenshot ico to your dock?
[18:53]  * ladymorgana reads tomreyn and decides to look up how to learn shell. (I know just enough to get by because shell is easier for some stuff.)
[18:53] <nb-ben> kind of want to get as much good reason not to do it as I can before I actually do it
[18:53] <gordonjcp> nb-ben: I quite like zfs
[18:53] <gordonjcp> nb-ben: no reason you can't set up a cluster of zfs drives with smaller drives you already have just to get an idea of it
[18:54] <remington> hey
[18:55] <nb-ben> gordonjcp: I have played around a little bit, though I suspect it might possibly be a different experience to be booting from it
[18:55] <remington> whats happening?
[18:55] <nb-ben> gordonjcp: I've read about users complaining about snapshot history not working due to zsys issues
[18:55] <nb-ben> (in grub)
[18:56] <nb-ben> I'll probably put the boot partition on the SSD instead
[18:57] <remington> anyone haver a link for satelite intel pc drivers?
[18:58] <ladymorgana> oerheks, what is a "screenshot ico"?  I found this page with a lot of kb shortcuts (interesting, mute screen recordings too.) https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/screen-shot-record.html  -|-
[18:59] <oerheks> search in your applications?
[18:59] <oerheks> gnome-screenshot i guess
[19:01] <remington> anyone willing try and fix my wifi settings? wireless is disabled and nothing ive done works? remote control my pc ??
[19:02] <ladymorgana> oerheks, I am still searching and learning stuff. I will hold comments till I find it. The results so far are showing me new stuff I never thought of doing.
[19:06] <ladymorgana> oerheks, Yes and... many things start screenshot (but not gnome-screenshot) but nothing (SO FAR) allows me to put it in the dock. BUT I have another question. How did "this guy" get this handy ascii system summary?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1439113/screen-capture-is-glitchy-on-all-types-of-applications
[19:08] <oerheks> !info neofetch
[20:13] <dani> ¿español?
[20:13] <oerheks> !es
[20:25] <Guest998> Hey I'm a newbie
[20:25] <Guest998> I installed ubuntu server to make a minecraft server.
[20:25] <Guest998> What would you say are some very important packges to make sure everything works.
[20:28] <gordonjcp> nb-ben: I use zfs snapshots for backing up stuff in storage, particularly where I've got a directory with a small number of very large files
[20:28] <gordonjcp> nb-ben: it seems to work
[20:30] <ladymorgana> OK I have done my search homework on this one and have looked at at least 5 results even after specifying in the last year. so How do I take this screenshot image and keep it in a file. (I wanted to paste it to google-voice-text but gv wont let me do that.
[20:32] <ladymorgana> I sent it to an old friend in messenger, just to have the image actually somewhere.
[20:34] <ladymorgana> One site suggested that I could set screenshot to save to a file as well as the clipboard but wasnot clear about how. Some used a no longer supported xclip with a long set of conditions. Another told me that gnome-screenshot is not what is in 22.04 so that's why I cant find the old version.. but I can reinstall it.  - How is this actually handled in 22.04 or do I have to install or use deprecated stuff?
[20:34] <byte4byte_> i know ubuntu makes a great desktop for all people, but can it be used as a server?
[20:34] <oerheks> screenshots are saved in Pictures/screenshot, AFAIK
[20:34] <oerheks> there is a server iso, byte4byte_
[20:34] <oerheks> !server
[20:34] <ladymorgana> byte4byte_, there is an ubuntu server specific .iso file on the downloads page.
[20:35] <ladymorgana> You have no gnome = gui though so you (and I) must learn to me a bash0master.
[20:35] <ladymorgana> Hail oerheks
[20:36] <Guest998> is there any very very leightweight gui with somesimple things like terminal shutdown network ....
[20:36] <Guest998> Should run on integrated graphics and on 8mbit graphics ram
[20:36] <ladymorgana> oerheks, I shall look in my pictures. I liked the old version wherein I could name it. (Now that you mention it, I think I knew that but my old-brain forgot.) blush.
[20:46] <byte4byte_> Guest998, ping jim, hes known for lightweight distros
[20:47] <leftyfb> byte4byte_: stop
[20:51] <Guest998> jim Have you got any idea what i could use as a very very leightweight gui to work with ubuntu server and a pc from the acient greeks (lmao( intel core 2 duo and 2gb ram(could buy 16gb) and 8mb graphics ram)
[20:51] <Guest998> Now what should it "do":
[20:51] <Guest998> Show some simple things like taskmanager, by this i mean cpu usage, memory usage disk usage; just very simple.
[20:51] <Guest998> Maybe a shutdown and restart button (not really necessary.
[20:51] <Guest998> Also it should be possible to use real vnc viewer to connect to this.
[20:51] <Guest998> Thank you very much for your help <3
[20:51] <Guest998> I should ask you as byte4byte said.
[20:52] <leftyfb> Guest998: why do you need a GUI for any of that? (you'll have to wait for your quiet to expire to respond)
[20:54] <Guest998> Huh why did i got a timeout for this?
[20:54] <Guest998> Did the message still get posted?
[20:54] <Guest998> leftyfb I think it would be nice to check the performance while the game server is running.
[20:55] <leftyfb> Guest998: htop
[20:56] <oerheks> one needs a mc server gui/admin, not vnc
[20:57] <Guest998> leftyfb
[20:57] <Guest998> thank you, looks good.
[20:57] <Guest998> Is this only a package?
[20:57] <Guest998> And is more or less easy to install, because it's my first time with ubuntu, just got some experience with raspbian (raspberryPi)
[20:58] <leftyfb> Guest998: yes, install it like any other package
[20:58] <Guest998> oerheks actually that would be a good ideas as well to do it this way :)
[20:58] <Guest998> Thank you for the idea
[20:58] <oerheks> this smells like a chat bot
[20:58] <leftyfb> nah, I don't think so
[20:59] <Guest998> what chatbot lmao
[20:59] <Guest998> oerheks remember me i was guest9 with the dcd booting problems and then usb worked later on i was the one who you told to use ubuntu server instead :)
[21:00] <Guest998> *dvd
[21:00] <Guest998> so oerheks Have you got any ideas about a minecraft server dashboard/gui?
[21:07] <mi> hello?
[21:10] <ladymorgana> re putting screenshot on the doc, it seems to be hopeless. from askubuntu last sept:
[21:10] <ladymorgana> The screenshot app in Ubuntu 22.04 is not anymore a separate tool. It is now part of Gnome Shell (very much like a third party extension, which, when installed, also becomes part of Gnome Shell). - | - The icon in the application overview is now similar in nature to the "Power Off" or "Log Out" icons. They do not exist in the Application overview, and can only be seen after searching. They are not
[21:10] <ladymorgana> represented by a .desktop file, but are internally provided by the shell. They do not represent separate applications, thus are never represented by an icon in the launcher and cannot be pinned.
[21:14] <leftyfb> ladymorgana: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-take-a-screenshot-on-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish-linux  there are several separate screenshot apps you can try
[21:16] <Guest998> Are there any Gui/Dashboards i could use to control a mc server (Fabric) maybe through a website or vnc viewer.
[21:16] <Guest998> Thank you for any suggestion.
[21:17] <leftyfb> Guest998: I don't think there are any in the ubuntu repositories, no
[21:17] <leftyfb> Guest998: you might want to ask for software opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:17] <Guest998> Oh really, i thought there would be quite some
[21:17] <Guest998> But thank you
[21:28] <yes-ubuntu> Knock-knock... I issue the command systemctl suspend and the laptop goes to sleep... when I wake the laptop up, the system is working, but with a pitch back display (like no electricity at all... I can log in via ssh... what files should I look into to see if there is any error? which files can I investigate?
[21:29] <arraybolt3> yes-ubuntu: I'd check dmesg for ACPI errors.
[21:29] <arraybolt3> !acpi
[21:29] <arraybolt3> yes-ubuntu: You can check dmesg by running `sudo dmesg | less` - this will let you scroll the dmesg log.
[21:30] <leftyfb> yes-ubuntu: try sudo systemctl suspend -i
[21:30] <yes-ubuntu> arraybolt3: thank you, I will give this a try; my bios is up to date
[21:32] <yes-ubuntu> leftyfb: what is -i ?
[21:32] <jim> Guest998, sorry, byte4byte is a troll...
[21:32] <yes-ubuntu> I checked the manual but I still don't understand
[21:32] <Guest998> Oh, i did not know this.
[21:32] <Guest998> The I apologize for the ping ;(
[21:33] <jim> didn't think you did; no worries...
[21:42] <yes-ubuntu> arraybolt3: I am looking at dmesg | less and can not see any specific error? The video card is not showing up in any line?
[21:45] <yes-ubuntu> arraybolt3: I can see PM: suspend entry (deep) and all the logs... no errors there; then I could see everything starting up and PM: suspend exit
[21:58] <arraybolt3> yes-ubuntu: Try typing "/acpi<Enter>" (with <Enter> being a literal Enter key press), and see if that shows anything. If not, press "n" to see the next occurance of "acpi". Keep doing that, if you see ACPI errors that might be the problem.
[22:05] <yes-ubuntu> arraybolt3: :)  I tried and there is no acpi before nor after the suspend / wake up
[22:05] <arraybolt3> yes-ubuntu: You'd want to look close to when the computer first boots.
[22:05] <arraybolt3> Maybe try rebooting and then look again.
[22:08] <yes-ubuntu> when I boot, I use nomodeset (otherwise the laptop freezes); now, with nomodeset kernel parameter, the system boots, all is fine, until the system goes to sleep... then when woken up from sleep, there is no power in the screen? pitch black screen? Should I still have a look at the dmesg after a boot (with nomodeset) ?
[22:20] <yes-ubuntu> leftyfb: I tried sudo systemctl suspend -i and the system wakes up, however, screen is still pitch black (no eletricity in it I suppose); plus because of the "-i" the keyboard backlight does not work, however, the caps lock does work and I can still issue commands via ssh
[22:21] <yes-ubuntu> Moreover, I have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnderstandingSuspend and towards the end at "Biggest problem is graphics hardware" I can see some suggestions...
[22:41] <StveO> not sure if this is the right channel, I'm running Apache2 and php8.1. Apache is running under my user (export APACHE_RUN_USER=myusername and export APACHE_RUN_GROUP=myusername). When I try to open google-chrome with php's proc_open I get  an error like Google want's to write something in the root folder.
[22:41] <StveO> mkdir: cannot create directory '/.local': Permission denied
[22:41] <StveO> touch: cannot touch '/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list': No such file or directory
[22:42] <StveO> When I execute the same command in the shell that proc_open does, it works
[22:46] <yes-ubuntu> \\\\i tried booting in single user mode + nomodeset then systemctl suspend and then wake the system up... this did not end well (system frozen after wake up, as pitch black screen, no keyboard backlight, no working caps lock... and since single user mode has no networking, I could not ssh into it)
[22:52] <byte4byte_> StveO, does myusername have a home directory?
[22:55] <arraybolt3> byte4byte_: Please stop pinging people unnecessarily. If you have an Ubuntu support question, ask it to the whole channel by not pinging anyone.
[22:56] <arraybolt3> byte4byte_: Oh wait, sorry, I see you were actually trying to help. I misunderstood, please disregard my last message
[23:08] <BinarySavior> hello, I am seeing my desktop listed as a media server from other devices on my LAN, I have ubuntu studio installed, I'm wondering what service is responsible for broadcasting my desktop as a media server
[23:09] <arraybolt3> minidlna, most likely.
[23:09] <arraybolt3> That's what caused the exact same thing to happen for me.
[23:10] <BinarySavior> thanks arraybolt3  i'll look into that


[00:38] <user|47832> Anyone here?
[00:38] <krytarik> Yeah - you, me, and the other pal.
[00:41] <user|47832> Well. I had a problem. Don't know if someone could give me a hint. I had a working Kubuntu 20.10 system, but I changed the motherboard and now it doesn't detect the new network card, a 2.5 Gbps Realtek 8125
[00:41] <user|47832> I don't know how to integrate a working driver
[00:42] <genii> It's possible it's too new yet to have one
[00:43] <user|47832> I'm working from another Manjaro KDE with 5.11.11 kernel, and it's working there.
[00:43] <user|47832> But the packages are not compatible
[00:45] <genii> Might want to lsmod the Manjaro setup and see what driver, then see on the Ubuntu package search site if that file is within some available package
[00:45] <genii> ( using a .ko file extension in the search)
[00:46] <user|47832> Could it be r8169?
 You could try live booting the daily download of 21.04 to check network functionality.   Since 21.04 is effectively beta, I think it safe enough to give it a spin.
[00:49] <user|47832> In Manjaro is placed at /usr/lib/modules/5.11.11-1-MANJARO/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/realtek/r8169.ko.xz
[00:50] <user|47832> IrcsomeBot: If I boot from a Kubuntu LiveCD, is it able to detect my previous Kubuntu partition and update its contents?
[00:51] <krytarik> '/lib/modules/5.8.0-48-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/realtek/r8169.ko' - that's also in the Groovy kernel modules though.
[00:52] <user|47832> krytarik: I'll check that path
 If your home is on separate partition, then yes, you can seamlessly install 21.04.  I would not recommend installing the other system directories without a format, but it might work...
[00:53] <user|47832> Ok. I need to backup some things first.
[00:54] <user|47832> Thanks
[01:01] <krytarik> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/0439297be95111cf9ef5ece2091af16d140ce2ef - could be this indeed.
 What's the lastest Plasma Version on Kubuntu 20.04?
[01:50] <mparillo> Could it be 5.18.5? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/<IP_ADDRESS>/release/kubuntu-<IP_ADDRESS>-desktop-amd64.manifest
[01:51] <krytarik> !info plasma-desktop focal
[07:33] <Gwalenn> hi world, on Kubuntu Focal Fossa, I have probably a bug with my driver tablet (digimend v9). I can't access to any menu File, edition... or tools in Libre Office Writer, Draw. I didn't see any trouble with other application
[08:00] <efernandez> Good morning! I'm currently with Kubuntu 21.04 beta and I see that under "System settings -> Shortcuts" the section "Global shortcuts" is no longer present. Is this a known change in plasma or should I file a bug? Thanks!!
[08:09] <jackdripper> i am using kubuntu 21.04 LTS and i hate it
[08:10] <jackdripper> sorry i am using 20.04
[08:10] <jackdripper> lol
 سلام دوستان
[11:03] <Maik> @erfan_sta what?
 @Maik, oh sorry I wrote wrong
[11:27] <Maik> :)
[11:50] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
 @Maik, i just type hi 😂
 @MacAMoon, Because kubuntu 20.04 LTS is using older kde plasma version.
 the firewall setting is included after 5.21 ig
 @ri5h46h, But i run sudo ufw enable and it's showing firewall is already active with the desktop startup
 @MacAMoon, yes then it is okay.
 @MacAMoon, check status with … `sudo ufw status`
 @ri5h46h, Okay!
[12:13] <superschnell> Hi all. I tried adding a VPN connection with the system tray network configuration icon, but after I'd added, clicking on "Connect" does nothing. It doesn't even yield an error. This way, I can't correct any errors I might have made. Any tips?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> which vpn protocol?
[12:20] <superschnell> L2TP
[12:20] <superschnell> I've followed this, https://help.limevpn.com/en/articles/3639180-how-to-setup-vpn-connection-in-kubuntu-kde-plasma-using-l2tp-protocol and tried with and without IPSec
[12:21] <superschnell> If I click "connect" on the newly created VPN connection, simply nothing at all happens
[12:21] <superschnell> And it keeps indicating "Never used"
[12:22] <superschnell> So it doesn't appear to even acknlowledge my clicking "connect"
[12:22] <BluesKaj> do you have a list of vpnserver IPs?
[12:25] <superschnell> This isn't a VPN connection for consumer use. It's for business use. I'm not aware of any list. I have a VPN gateway and that is it.
[12:25] <superschnell> The gateway responds to pings and is up. My colleague has already connected successfully in the past, but he's not available atm
[12:25] <superschnell> He also uses Kubuntu
[12:26] <superschnell> In any case, no matter how many times I click connect, absolutely nothing happens, which is obviously a pretty serious user interface design error.
[12:26] <superschnell> If a connect fails, it should tell me.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> i assume you've installed network-manager-l2tp
[12:27] <superschnell> That may be it.
[12:27] <superschnell> Let's try
[13:27] <baran> hi
 WU4I
[17:38] <zencloud> hello
[17:41] <Maik> zencloud: hi
[17:41] <Maik> anything we can help you with?
[17:44] <zencloud> Im just new to the community trying to find my way around :)
[17:45] <zencloud> yes there is something, how can I register my freenode nickname, im not sure how to go about it
[17:46] <Maik> info about that can be found on their website, just a search away: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
[17:47] <zencloud> I have tried that
[17:47] <zencloud> its not very clear on how to actually register :)
[17:47] <Maik> it's clear enough imho, if not then join #freenode and ask there
[17:47] <zencloud> where do I enter the commands?
[17:48] <Maik> this channel is for support with Kubuntu
[17:48] <Maik> also
[17:48] <Maik> !discuss
[17:48] <Maik> or #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:48] <zencloud> thanks Maik
[17:48] <Maik> yw
[23:36] <user|16795> Hello, how to reduce the scale of the monitor to 95%, after installing the nvidia drives everything became too big
[23:49] <mparillo> System Settings > Display and Monitor > Display Configuration > Global Scale does not work?


[21:11] <pleia2> Unit193: can you link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue383
[21:11] <pleia2> I'll publish when I get home from dinner
[21:13] <silverlion> pleia2 : have a good dinner ;)
[21:13] <silverlion> when will you be back?
[23:55] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 383 for the week September 8 - 14, 2014 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue383


[07:46] <mdke> DarkwingDuck_: no, fraid not
[07:47] <mdke> mewshi_: yep, working on Gnome desktop topics will also help Ubuntu and is a great option
[18:55] <durt> hey folks, working on a typo bug for the server guide, do I need to worry if ./scripts/validate.sh /serverguide/C/network-auth.xml returns errors regarding things I have not changed?
[19:26] <sommer> durt: with the serverguide the best way to validate is to do "./scripts/validate.sh /serverguide/C/serverguide.xml" since the serverguide files are all linked
[19:26] <sommer> durt: appreciate your help with the serverguide bugs :-)
[19:27] <durt> ah, will do. next question; what to call the diff?
[19:29] <sommer> the diff name isn't terribly important, something like network-auth.xml_typo-fix.diff would work fine
[19:33] <durt> right, validated with no errors, now to commit and post in that bug? or notify somewher eelse
[19:33] <durt> er, somewhere else?
[19:34] <sommer> yep, in the bug is fine
[19:47] <durt> hmm, the diff file is empty.


[18:34] <wangerin1> Is anyne aware of a install/setup-guide for ClassBot ? We're trying t
[18:34] <wangerin1> Is anyne aware of a install/setup-guide for ClassBot ? We're trying to setup a local system here in DK
[18:45] <nigelb> wangerin1: yes, its on launchpad.  Please feel to talk to nhandler in #ubuntu-classroom-backstage
[18:46] <nigelb> wangerin1: He'll be able to help you set it up :)
[18:47] <wangerin1> nigelb: I've found it, but can't get i loaded in irssi. I'll se if nhandler can help ;-)