[00:00] <Qu4Z> Ctrl + M? I dunno...
[00:04] <jhutchins_lt> What's the current method of disabling ipv6?
[00:05] <jhutchins_lt> Ah, I see I need to restart anyway, brb.
[00:10] <jhutchins_lt> wtf?  I'm not getting the right dhcp address.
[00:10] <jhutchins_lt> Maybe I forgot to restart the dhcp server.
[00:15] <jhutchins_lt_> THere we go, I can has hostname.
[00:16] <duryodhan> Hi , is there a simple way to add ical calendars to the KDE desktop so that I can see my upcoming appointments ? Kubuntu 9.04 KDE 4.3.2
[00:16] <jhutchins_lt_> How do we disable ipv6 these days?
[00:16] <carpii> last i heard, there was a kernel bug which meant you couldnt disable ipv6
[00:16] <carpii> that was fedora though
[00:17] <jhutchins_lt_> ipv6 isn't loaded as a module - maybe they've compiled it in.  "You WILL use IPV6 even though no networks support it.  It's GOOD for you!"
[00:20] <Qu4Z> My network supports it :D
[00:20] <Qu4Z> (mostly)
[00:25] <pookito> is there anybody here
[00:26] <Joelito> pookito: yes
[00:26] <pookito> my questions .  Is there a way for me to connect to the kubuntu mailing list, using knode instead of the mail?
[00:26] <jhutchins_lt_> pookito: 278 people at least lurking.
[00:27] <jhutchins_lt_> pookito: No, it would have to be gated to usenet.  There should be a web archive interface.
[00:28] <pookito> There is but I thought it would be  nice to have a mailing list connected to knode.
[00:29] <pookito> Thanks
[00:39] <rengil> the desktop doesn't lock itself when waking up from hibernate, is there a fix?
[00:48] <pulaski> Hello All,
[00:49] <whirleystar> so nepomuk... i'm using karmic.... think i switched it over to sesame2 correctly... it's been pegged at 100% for like 4 hrs, is that normal?
[00:49] <rengil_> how can i make it so that the session is locked when waking up from hibernate?
[00:51] <pulaski> I have recently insalled 9.10 karmic.  It uses the 2.6.31-14-generic kernel.  I actually wanted to have the 2.8.31 kernel.  Can anyone provide a link where I can find out about 2.8.31 development or how I can obtain it?
[00:51] <giz> hey Pulaski
[00:52] <pulaski> giz: Hi
[00:54] <pulaski> giz:  I need the 2.8.31 kernel for a SB X-fi sound card driver.  Do you have any info on that topic or where I can get more info about it?
[00:54] <rengil_> grr this kubuntu is full of bugs, it doesnt lock after waking from hibernate and its been months and they havent fixed it in the new release yet
[00:55] <rengil_> and no one knows how to fix it either
[00:55] <rengil_> in that respect, windows is much better
[00:56] <giz> pulaski: sorry, I have no idea, but I was just about to google it
[01:00] <pulaski> giz: Thanks for responding.  I've been searching for a while for the gnu/linux driver and I've learned it can be expected in the 2.8.31 kernel.  I know nothing about kernel development or release.  Do you have any idea when kernel 2.8.31 may be released giz?
[01:02] <giz> pulaski:I think you mean 2.6.31 ?
[01:04] <giz> pulaski:stable has been out for a while now and what you are looking for is called a module
[01:21] <giz> pulaski: try this http://www.overclock.net/sound-cards-computer-audio/409253-how-set-up-creative-sound-cards.html#post4868407
[01:31] <pulaski> giz: Sorry I was away.  Thanks I will.
[01:32] <fede__> ¿Which is the key shortcut to use the expose like feature in kubuntu?
[01:44] <chen_> hi
[02:12] <MTGap> Has anyone been using the koffice ppa. It was recently updated but kword won't install because of some conflict
[02:14] <chen_> hi
[02:17] <Ev0luti0n_> hey folks
[02:18] <flootenkerp> Hi. Can anyone help me with something?
[02:19] <Qu4Z> flootenkerp: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[02:20] <Qu4Z> People are more likely to respond to a problem they recognise than agree to take on an unspecified problem as they may not be confident of their knowledge in an area, and don't want to commit to anything.
[02:20] <Qu4Z> Also, Hi :D
[02:26] <KiRiLoS> Qu4Z, :P
[02:27] <flootenkerp_> So, I need help with something
[02:27] <flootenkerp_> I typed this in terminal 'sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator-trunk awn-manager-trunk awn-extras-applets-trunk'
[02:27] <flootenkerp_> And got this 'E: Couldn't find package avant-window-navigator-bzr'
[02:27] <Qu4Z> Oh, hang on. I disabled join/part for this channel <_< Is that what I'm being :Ped about? ^^;
[02:29] <flootenkerp_> So, could anyone help? I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to make linux look like mac osx, but this is the part where I got stuck at.
[02:30] <MTGap> Well flootenkerp_ I've never tried installing awn on kde
[02:30] <KiRiLoS> flootenkerp_, from what i understand you wanna install avant window navigator.why dont you just sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator?
[02:30] <flootenkerp_> I'll try that
[02:30] <flootenkerp_> Sorry for my noobiness, I'm a first time linux user
[02:31] <KiRiLoS> It's ok,but remember there is always KpackageKit,which is kinda easier for a newbie flootenkerp_
[02:31] <MTGap> KiRiLoS: is there awn in kpackagekit?
[02:31] <MTGap> Have you followed this guide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762363
[02:31] <flootenkerp_> Thanks, it's installing right now.
[02:31] <MTGap> ok nvm
[02:31] <KiRiLoS> MTGap, yeah it is...
[02:37] <flootenkerp_> Thanks guys, I got the mac doc working.
[02:38] <droid7> my gtk app fonts are not changing according to the settings in gtk appearance in system settings. can anyone help?
[02:39] <whirleystar> nepomuk is still churning after 400 processor "minutes"... does anyone know if that is to be expected with sesame2 backend?
[03:17] <taylon123> hi
[03:18] <taylon123> how do you use tar.gz files
[03:21] <Qu4Z> Depends what you want to do with them.
[03:52] <hydrogen> so I have my flash drive mounted rw
[03:52] <hydrogen> and yet
[03:52] <hydrogen> touch: cannot touch `/media/usb/blah': Read-only file system
[03:56] <BluesKaj> hydrogen, sudo mount/medis/usb/blah -rw
[03:56] <BluesKaj> err media
[03:56] <hydrogen> It's already mounted rw
[03:56] <hydrogen> and mount shows it moutned rw
[03:57] <hydrogen> /dev/sdc1 on /media/usb type vfat (rw)
[03:57] <Ded1cated> hydrogen: mount shows you rw?
[03:57] <BluesKaj> did you sudo mount
[03:58] <Ded1cated> that doesnt matter, its either mounted or not :)
[03:58] <hydrogen> and it's not a permissions thing
[03:58] <hydrogen> (even root can't create a file)
[03:58] <hydrogen> + thats a different error
[03:58] <Ded1cated> hm i only know i need fat tools for formatting vfat, but to write.. hmm may give that a shot
[04:01] <BluesKaj> hydrogen, you come here for help , if you already know ...why are you asking?
[04:02] <dylan_> can anyone tell me what the fastest dns server is ?
[04:02] <hydrogen> BluesKaj: because I don't know to solve my problem
[04:02] <hydrogen> you se
[04:02] <dylan_> mine is set to <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> right now
[04:02] <hydrogen> I continually make the mistake
[04:02] <hydrogen> of assuming that people in this channel might sometimes know what they are talking about
[04:02] <hydrogen> and I'm always proven wrong
[04:02] <hydrogen> why am I still in here?
[04:03] <dylan_> hey if u know  what your talking about
[04:03] <dylan_> do u mind telling me the fastest dns server?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> dylan_, I use opendns , but I haen't tried any others except for my ISP
[04:03] <dylan_> BluesKaj: can u try <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> real quick and tell me if open dns is faster?
[04:03] <dylan_> or tell me what to type into resolv.conf to set it to open dns?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> dylan_, hang on
[04:05] <BluesKaj> dylan_, i don't have it set in resolv.conf , but in the manual dns server option on my router
[04:07] <BluesKaj> dylan_, primary : <IP_ADDRESS> , secondary : <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:10] <dylan_> BluesKaj: thanks internet seems to be running much faster now
[04:21] <catamarquence> whats linux-backports-modules about?
[04:34] <underdog7> would anyone be able to provide me with any insight/guide/tutorials on networking 2 computers (both using ubuntu) over a router network?
[04:35] <russlar> underdog7: what do you want to do with the two machines
[04:35] <russlar> underdog7: simply plugging them in on the same subnet will network them
[04:35] <underdog7> russlar:  mostly just file sharing for now
[04:35] <russlar> both linux, no need for windows access?
[04:36] <underdog7> nope
[04:36] <russlar> !nfs
[04:36] <russlar> read that
[04:36] <underdog7> perfect.  thanks russlar.
[04:39] <underdog7> russlar: there is no easier method?
[04:39] <russlar> not really
[04:39] <underdog7> lol jeese
[04:39] <underdog7> wish it was as ez as windows
[04:40] <russlar> underdog7: oh hell, they've got all that in the how-to doc?
[04:40] <underdog7> haha yeah
[04:40] <russlar> wow.....
[04:40] <russlar> all you'll need in teh installation and confguration esction
[04:40] <r00t_ninja> samba
[04:41] <r00t_ninja> try samba with system-config-samba
[04:41] <russlar> mount the share on teh client with mount ip:/share mountpoint
[04:41] <underdog7> okay, so do it through samba
[04:42] <r00t_ninja> actually use SMB4k
[04:44] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: okay, i'm dling it now.  thx.  will give it a try.
[04:47] <r00t_ninja> actually sorry i was wrong system-config-samba is what you will want
[04:49] <RussellAlan> can i setup a program to initially control win7 machines? For network admin.
[04:51] <r00t_ninja> like some sort of vnc?
[04:55] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: any idea on where/how i can setup system-config-samba?
[04:55] <r00t_ninja> search it in kpackagekit
[04:55] <r00t_ninja> it will show in the system menu
[04:56] <underdog7> okay, does this make a diff if i'm running ubuntu (not kubuntu)?  is there an alternative solution for ubuntu?
[04:56] <r00t_ninja> nah samba-system-config is in both
[04:56] <r00t_ninja> sudo apt-get install system-config-samba
[04:57] <underdog7> i see samba,
[04:57] <underdog7> i see that i can put shares, etc
[04:57] <underdog7> but how will i connect 2 those shares from the othe rmachine?
[04:57] <r00t_ninja> windows?
[04:57] <underdog7> ubuntu
[04:57] <underdog7> both
[04:58] <r00t_ninja> ubuntu go into network:/
[04:58] <r00t_ninja> windows go into my network places
[04:59] <r00t_ninja> nautilus and dolphin both have builtin browsing of samba
[04:59] <r00t_ninja> samew with windows
[04:59] <underdog7> okay, i go in there, and it only shows my windows network
[04:59] <underdog7> no samba network
[04:59] <underdog7> woops
[04:59] <r00t_ninja> the windows network should be it
[04:59] <underdog7> do i need the samba installed on both?
[05:00] <r00t_ninja> no
[05:00] <r00t_ninja> your wanting to share files and folders on the computer with samba-system-config
[05:00] <r00t_ninja> ?
[05:00] <underdog7> okay -- do i need to match workgroup names, etc b/c i'm getting "windows network" is "unable to mount location"
[05:00] <underdog7> yes
[05:01] <r00t_ninja> so what computer are you talking about?
[05:02] <underdog7> okay, i'm sorry, let me be clear:
[05:03] <underdog7> i've install the samba files you've discussed on the "host" machine (the computer with the files i want to be able 2 network to other comps on the network).  on this comp, in the Samba config, do i need to set workgroup or any other settings?  or once i installed system-config-samba, should it just show up in the "network" from the "client" machines?
[05:04] <r00t_ninja> yes you need to set the workgroup the same
[05:04] <r00t_ninja> as on the windows computer
[05:04] <underdog7> b/c whenever i click on "windows network" from the client machine, it says "unable to mount location"
[05:04] <underdog7> (and both the comps are ubuntu)
[05:05] <r00t_ninja> go here Reply With Quote
[05:05] <r00t_ninja> http://aptlinks.comlu.com/images/
[05:05] <r00t_ninja> and look at images 1 - 6
[05:07] <r00t_ninja> try clicking add share , going into the basic tab and allowing access to everyone
[05:07] <underdog7> hmm okay, first, let me just say thanks.
[05:07] <underdog7> second, do ur instructions change any if both comps are runnning ubuntu?
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> no
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> except
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> you probably wont have to set the workgroup on the ubuntu computer
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> wait
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> dw
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> the workgroup wont matter for the ubuntu computer
[05:08] <r00t_ninja> (client)
[05:09] <underdog7> where do i change the workgroup name for the host?
[05:09] <underdog7> i don't know where to do that in ubuntu
[05:11] <underdog7> okay, let me just try a fresh reboot; brb
[05:11] <r00t_ninja> ok
[05:15] <r00t_ninja> underdog7: you still need to change workgroup?
[05:16] <underdog7> well, i was reading up a bit, n i think some1 said ubuntu doesn't use workgroup names -- only windows.
[05:16] <r00t_ninja> yea
[05:16] <r00t_ninja> you can set it for samba tho
[05:16] <underdog7> so i don't think that would matter 2 me b/c both my machines are linux
[05:16] <r00t_ninja> also
[05:16] <r00t_ninja> have you added any shares
[05:16] <r00t_ninja> ?
[05:17] <underdog7> i've added one, yes
[05:17] <fede> hi, i just installed kubuntu and i cannot change my screen to 1024x768
[05:17] <underdog7> and i'm still getting the same error ont he client -- "cannot mount"
[05:17] <r00t_ninja> underdog7: you made them visible?
[05:17] <underdog7> yes
[05:17] <r00t_ninja> try allow access to everyone
[05:17] <underdog7> and i've opened access to everyone
[05:17] <fede> It only lets me use 800x600 and below
[05:18] <r00t_ninja> fede: graphics card?
[05:18] <r00t_ninja> underdog7: wierd
[05:18] <fede> no, intel
[05:18] <underdog7> fede -- mae sure u have the hardware drivers installed
[05:18] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: tell me about it :)
[05:18] <underdog7> fede: system>admin
[05:19] <fede> and?
[05:19] <r00t_ninja> click the kmenu
[05:19] <r00t_ninja> click applications
[05:19] <r00t_ninja> then go into system
[05:19] <r00t_ninja> then Hardware Drivers
[05:20] <underdog7> yeah, that ^^^
[05:20] <underdog7> :)
[05:20] <fede> ok i'm doing that
[05:20] <r00t_ninja> underdog7: have you tried accessing from your windows machine?
[05:20] <fede> Not using privative drivers
[05:20] <underdog7> r00t_ninja:  will boot my laptop into win7 now
[05:21] <r00t_ninja> ok
[05:21] <underdog7> fede: u should
[05:21] <r00t_ninja> what are privative drivers?
[05:21] <kovach> VirtualBox will not start until this problem is fixed. Please consult /var/log/vbox-install.log to find out why the kernel module does not compile. Most probably the kernel sources were not found. Install them (the package name is probably linux-headers-<version> whereby <version> can be determined by 'uname -r') and execute
[05:21] <kovach>   /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[05:21] <kovach> as root.
[05:21] <underdog7> i think he means private
[05:21] <underdog7> hehe
[05:21] <fede> that's what it said on the hardware drivers test
[05:22] <kovach> help me please
[05:22] <fede> sorry if my english is not to good, i'm from uruguay
[05:22] <underdog7> kovach: do exactly what it says
[05:22] <r00t_ninja> fede: post output of lspci | grep vga
[05:22] <underdog7> find the kernel version by uname -r
[05:22] <underdog7> then install it
[05:22] <underdog7> using aptitude
[05:23] <underdog7> fede: no probel senior
[05:23] <underdog7> problem
[05:23] <kovach> im new to all of this still learning
[05:23] <underdog7> kovach
[05:23] <r00t_ninja> fede: make that lspci | grep VGA
[05:23] <underdog7> open a terminal
[05:23] <underdog7> type "uname -r"
[05:24] <fede> i solved this problem before changing the xorg file but i don't remember how
[05:24] <r00t_ninja> fede: paste output of lspci | grep VGA
[05:24] <underdog7> fede:  did you try to install the Private Hardware Drivers
[05:24] <kovach> ok
[05:25] <r00t_ninja> intel drivers are opensource i think
[05:25] <kovach> 2.6.27-15-generic
[05:25] <underdog7> kovach, okay, so,
[05:25] <fede> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:25] <kovach> thats ehat it gave me
[05:25] <kovach> what
[05:26] <underdog7> type "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.27-15-generic"
[05:26] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: get this:  it works in windows7 but not ubuntu!!  ?? what's up w/ that?? lol
[05:27] <r00t_ninja> im not sure
[05:27] <r00t_ninja> kovach: were there any available drivers in the Hardware Drivers
[05:27] <r00t_ninja> ?
[05:27] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: i think u mean "fede"
[05:28] <underdog7> hehe
[05:28] <r00t_ninja> yea lol
[05:28] <r00t_ninja> try log out and then back in on your ubuntu box
[05:28] <r00t_ninja> (the client)
[05:28] <underdog7> yep, trying it again right now
[05:28] <kovach> yea its still loading
[05:29] <fede> no
[05:29] <kovach>  Installing modules
[05:29] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: when i logged into the share from windows7 it prompted me for a user name and password (which i got correct).  will it prompt me the same in ubuntu?
[05:29] <kovach> its done now
[05:29] <r00t_ninja> it should
[05:29] <underdog7> kovach: that should work, b/c i had the same problem b4
[05:29] <kovach> thanks
[05:29] <underdog7> np
[05:29] <underdog7> hopefully it works :)
[05:30] <fede> ¿Any sugestions?
[05:31] <r00t_ninja> fede: so you cant set it higher in the system settings?
[05:31] <fede> no i can't
[05:31] <fede> only up to 800x600
[05:33] <r00t_ninja> referesh your package list
[05:33] <r00t_ninja> reboot
[05:33] <r00t_ninja> and then check in hardware drivers
[05:33] <fede> ok i'll do that
[05:33] <r00t_ninja> if that doesnt work i suggest you ask on the ubuntu forums
[05:35] <kovach> i have no sound but before i installed a fresh copy of xp pro i had sound can anyone help me find my nivdid graphics card and help me get sound back
[05:35] <F4wltytowers> I'm having trouble with the proprietary drivers dialog
[05:35] <F4wltytowers> It's not working
[05:35] <F4wltytowers> I press activate and wait two hours and nothing ever happens
[05:35] <F4wltytowers> what the heck
[05:35] <kovach> since then i installed cause that crashed and have ubuntu 8.10
[05:35] <r00t_ninja> double click the one you want
[05:35] <r00t_ninja> then click activate
[05:35] <F4wltytowers> I did
[05:36] <F4wltytowers> But nothing happens
[05:36] <r00t_ninja> did you double click it first
[05:36] <F4wltytowers> Yes
[05:36] <r00t_ninja> to make sure it was actually selected
[05:36] <F4wltytowers> Yes
[05:36] <r00t_ninja> have you refreshed your package list?
[05:36] <F4wltytowers> Yes
[05:36] <r00t_ninja> close it
[05:36] <r00t_ninja> go back into it
[05:36] <F4wltytowers> I've already done that several times
[05:37] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: okay, embarassingly, i found out that the CLIENT did NOT have samba installed.   so now, the client shows itself (as "laptop") but there is no "desktop" (the host).
[05:37] <r00t_ninja> are these nvidia drivers?
[05:37] <F4wltytowers> yes
[05:37] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: (in the network dialogue)
[05:38] <F4wltytowers> And before you say it, no, with my internet connection, it does NOT take more than two hours to download some bloody drivers
[05:38] <underdog7> F4wltytowers: that's def weird man
[05:38] <F4wltytowers> Oh great
[05:38] <F4wltytowers> Now the dialog doesn't even work now
[05:38] <r00t_ninja> does the dialog come up?
[05:38] <F4wltytowers> "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[05:38] <F4wltytowers> Really fantastic.
[05:38] <r00t_ninja> that says installing
[05:39] <F4wltytowers> Um, no?!?
[05:39] <r00t_ninja> it wasnt installing then
[05:39] <r00t_ninja> it wasnt even downloading
[05:39] <F4wltytowers> You've lost me.
[05:39] <F4wltytowers> So why is it not even working now?
[05:39] <r00t_ninja> when you clicked activate
[05:39] <r00t_ninja> did another window pop up
[05:39] <F4wltytowers> No
[05:40] <r00t_ninja> it wasnt even downloading them then
[05:40] <F4wltytowers> Now jockey crashed
[05:40] <r00t_ninja> reboot
[05:40] <F4wltytowers> Really great work here guys.  Welllll, let's see if restarting xserver fixes that
[05:46] <r00t_ninja> wait
[05:47] <r00t_ninja> you dont have nvidia-settings installed
[05:48] <F4wltytowers> Nope!
[05:48] <F4wltytowers> It's still being a little gobshite.
[05:48] <F4wltytowers> So, what now?
[05:48] <F4wltytowers> Rip out some boy's heart and offer it to the gods?
[05:49] <r00t_ninja> do you have nvidia-glx-185 installed?
[05:49] <F4wltytowers> Let me see
[05:49] <underdog7> F4wltytowers: lol.. dude.. u need 2 chill
[05:49] <F4wltytowers> Yes
[05:49] <r00t_ninja> nvidia-glx-185
[05:49] <r00t_ninja> ?
[05:49] <shrawan_> ok
[05:50] <r00t_ninja> lol
[05:51] <underdog7> that dude was flippin his biscuits all over the place man
[05:51] <underdog7> lol
[05:51] <ropz> why every restart my start menu and all change direction ? i can fix it by kdm stop kdm start , thanks
[05:51] <F4wltytowers> "WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[05:51] <F4wltytowers> "
[05:51] <F4wltytowers> I doubt that's good.
[05:52] <F4wltytowers> pkf-config not found... wat
[05:52] <F4wltytowers> *pkg
[05:52] <r00t_ninja> install pkg-config
[05:52] <r00t_ninja> sudo apt-get install pkg-config
[05:52] <F4wltytowers> What I'm doing
[05:52] <r00t_ninja> then run
[05:52] <r00t_ninja> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:52] <underdog7> r00t_ninja: is there a "reinstall" for aptitude or apt-get?
[05:53] <r00t_ninja> yep
[05:53] <F4wltytowers> Looks like it was successful this time.
[05:53] <F4wltytowers> Log out and in?
[05:53] <r00t_ninja> reboot
[05:53] <F4wltytowers> Why reboot?
[05:53] <F4wltytowers> It's just xserver
[05:53] <r00t_ninja> fully restart xorg
[05:53] <r00t_ninja> and hal
[05:53] <F4wltytowers> *sigh* fine
[05:53] <ropz> wow you help him and he have problems
[05:53] <ropz> to do restart
[05:53] <r00t_ninja> lol
[05:53] <underdog7> lol
[05:54] <underdog7> effing hilarious
[05:54] <ropz> help me too :)
[05:54] <ropz>  your clock in left direction right ? and start in right direction   so every restart / shutdown all the panel change direction
[05:54] <ropz> sometimes the menu in left the clock in right , and sometimes the menu in right and the clock in left
[05:54] <r00t_ninja> have you locked the panel?
[05:54] <ropz> by default its locked ?
[05:54] <r00t_ninja> i think
[05:55] <r00t_ninja> right click on it
[05:55] <r00t_ninja> and unlock it
[05:55] <ropz> its called panel / table ?
[05:55] <r00t_ninja> panel
[05:55] <r00t_ninja> unlock widgets
[05:55] <r00t_ninja> and remove clock and panel
[05:55] <ropz> well i want my menu in the right because my language is hebrew
[05:55] <r00t_ninja> ok
[05:56] <r00t_ninja> have you unlocked the widgets on the panel?
[05:56] <r00t_ninja> also out of interest are you still using virtualbox?
[05:56] <ropz> no
[05:56] <r00t_ninja> ok
[05:56] <r00t_ninja> anyway unlock the panel
[05:56] <r00t_ninja> right click on it
[05:57] <r00t_ninja> and select unlock widgets
[05:57] <F4wltytowers> Thank god it worked. Thanks.
[05:57] <r00t_ninja> np
[05:57] <F4wltytowers> I'll be writing this down...
[05:57] <ropz> my widgets is unlocked
[05:57] <r00t_ninja> ok
[05:57] <ropz> but its not widgets
[05:57] <r00t_ninja> i am talking about the widgets on the panel
[05:57] <r00t_ninja> the clock
[05:57] <r00t_ninja> the menu
[05:57] <ropz> ok
[05:57] <r00t_ninja> and other stuff
[05:57] <r00t_ninja> sys tray
[05:57] <FloodBotK1> r00t_ninja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:58] <ropz> i need to do kdm stop kdm start beofre..
[05:58] <ropz> to get the right direction if you understand
[05:58] <r00t_ninja> so if you log out and log back in it works?
[05:58] <ropz> wait here babe
[05:58] <r00t_ninja> k.....
[06:01] <ropz> dont work
[06:01] <r00t_ninja> ok
[06:01] <r00t_ninja> right click on the menu icon
[06:01] <r00t_ninja> and do unlock widgets
[06:01] <ropz> ok
[06:02] <r00t_ninja> so you want your menu on the right?
[06:02] <ropz> yes
[06:02] <r00t_ninja> ok in the right bottom corner there is that little icon thing
[06:03] <r00t_ninja> and when you click on it
[06:03] <saxofun> hi
[06:03] <r00t_ninja> a menu comes up
[06:04] <ropz> :(
[06:15] <user__> hi
[06:16] <user__> where can i find kernel debug symbols?
[06:16] <user__> vmlinux?
[06:29] <raziel> ninja pme
[06:32] <vitamin-carrot> file and folder sharing in kubuntu do i still need to install samba?
[06:32] <user__> yup
[06:32] <user__> you need
[06:32] <user__> samba v3
[06:32] <user__> not samba 4
[06:32] <FloodBotK1> user__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:33] <vitamin-carrot> so what verison is in the repos?
[06:33] <user__> both are there
[06:33] <vitamin-carrot> so if i went sudo apt-get install samba
[06:33] <user__> v4 is badly broken i guess
[06:33] <user__> yup
[06:34] <user__> samba, not samba4
[06:34] <vitamin-carrot> would that drag down samba 4 or 3?
[06:34] <user__> 3 i guess
[06:34] <vitamin-carrot> coolies well ive done that but it appears im still having issues sharing my folders witht he gf who is also using kubuntu
[06:35] <user__> edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:35] <user__> then add user to samba using smbpasswd
[06:36] <user__> i think you have to be root first to add a user using smbpasswd
[06:37] <r00t_ninja> or try system-config-samba
[06:37] <r00t_ninja> for a gui
[06:37] <user__> yeah, it is easier
[06:37] <user__> i have not tried it yet
[06:37] <user__> but you can check the gui output by looking what changed in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:37] <vitamin-carrot> that a cmd line?
[06:38] <r00t_ninja> no
[06:38] <user__> i think so, system-config-samba
[06:38] <user__> what's that?
[06:38] <r00t_ninja> its a samba configuration gui
[06:38] <vitamin-carrot> brb
[06:41] <vitamin-carrot> nope still n0ot able to share folders
[06:41] <dios_mio> this is a fresh install... the nvidia driver popup comes up but the "activate" button doesnt work, i click on it and it does nothing
[06:42] <r00t_ninja> double click it
[06:42] <r00t_ninja> wait
[06:42] <r00t_ninja> go into hardware drivers
[06:42] <dios_mio> ok
[06:42] <r00t_ninja> double click the driver you want
[06:42] <r00t_ninja> and then click activate
[06:42] <user__>  netstat -a -p -t -n | less
[06:42] <dios_mio> ok thx
[06:42] <dios_mio> works
[06:42] <user__> check if samba service is running
[06:42] <user__> smbd
[06:43] <user__> or used:
[06:43] <user__> "/etc/init.d/samba restart"
[06:43] <user__> then check smbd service is running
[06:43] <user__> did you add the user using smbpasswd?
[06:47] <chakie_work> what is this "apport-kde" dialog that i see all the time?
[06:48] <chakie_work> yesterday when i came to work i had about 60 of them in a pile
[06:49] <user__> what's apport-kde?
[06:49] <user__> there is no command apport-kde
[06:49] <user__> what's the message?
[06:49] <user__> sorry can't help you
[06:58] <vitamin-carrot> i gave up
[06:58] <vitamin-carrot> so i just copied the file to a USB stick and gave it to her
[06:58] <vitamin-carrot> lol
[07:03] <tellerius> hi folks
[07:05] <tellerius> i installed kubuntu-desktop last night and upgraded the distro via the applet on the systray and now i get an error when i try to boot. it doesnt matter which kernel version i choose.  the error i get is "error: unknown command 'initrd'"
[07:06] <tellerius> i can bring up the minimal cmd line, but thats as far as i can get.
[07:07] <user__> try a re-install
[07:07] <user__> do you need your data?
[07:07] <tellerius> yeah my data would be nice.
[07:07] <user__> upgrade path is buggy
[07:07] <user__> boot from cd
[07:08] <tellerius> no cd.
[07:08] <user__> then move all your data to /hide/mydata/
[07:08] <user__> then erase all other folders like /bin, /var, /usr etc
[07:08] <user__> then install
[07:09] <user__> then move back your data from /hide/mydata/ to their original folders
[07:09] <user__> no cd?
[07:09] <user__> can you try to get one?
[07:10] <user__> it is the only method i know
[07:10] <tellerius> nope, the drive is shagged, hence the reason the laptop has ubuntu on it in the first place.
[07:11] <user__> seems difficult to fix,
[07:11] <user__> your boot config is damaged
[07:12] <tellerius> no way i can roll back te upgrade? or reinstall grub from the cmd line? remembering its not a full cmd line, just the minimal one
[07:12] <user__> no need to rollback
[07:12] <user__> just fix current problem, i think it is fixable
[07:13] <user__> reinstalling grub is good idea
[07:13] <user__> but don't know how to early from bootup
[07:13] <tellerius> ok, but the question remains, how do i go about that from the dodgy commande line that grub gives me?
[07:14] <tellerius> im happy with a how-to somewhere online =)
[07:14] <user__> google grub re-install
[07:15] <user__> :)
[07:15] <tellerius> ive done that, there are plenty of instructions telling me to "insert the disk" but i dont have that luxury.
[07:16] <user__> i think you need the disk
[07:16] <user__> grub loader has little features to fix incorrect boot config
[07:17] <tellerius> well thats handy.
[07:17] <user__> you need an editor to check or edit /boot/menu.lst
[07:17] <tellerius> hrmmm looks like im not doing any work today.
[07:18] <user__> yeah, if you don't fix it, you can't work
[07:18] <tellerius> pitty i dont get paid if i dont work.
[07:19] <user__> that's not good.. better get paid
[07:19] <tellerius> well, looks like i have to fix it tomorrow.
[07:19] <tellerius> bye
[07:26] <Shaxor> Haven't been here for some time now
[07:27] <Shaxor> Okay I can't seem to get the Banshee media player to work, it adds my music just fine but when i try to play it, it doesn't work, Has anyone else had this problem?
[07:30] <Assurbanipal> hi i am facing the following problem. i have high cpu usage when working with files (extracting/copying) especialy when doing it on ntfs partitions. i am runnign kubuntu 9,10 64bit with q9550.can someone help me out?
[07:46] <noaXess> good morning
[07:46] <noaXess> does anybody work with dolphin and split mode?
[07:46] <chen_> http://www.gcshome.cn
[07:47] <chen_> this time is afternoon
[07:49] <noaXess> if i start dolphin in split view mode, allways the right pane is active, not the left..
[07:49] <noaXess> is there also any way to have two diffrent locations opened at dolphin startup?
[08:08] <Shaxor> Okay I can't seem to get the Banshee media player to work, it adds my music just fine but when i try to play it, it doesn't work, Has anyone else had this problem?
[08:13] <mty2k> hay, how can i changwe my screen resolution?
[08:13] <jussi01> Shaxor: are you sure you have the correct codecs for the music? and does the music work anywhere else?
[08:14] <jussi01> Shaxor: also, does it play at all and no sound or does it give an error?
[08:15] <Shaxor> the music play just fine in amarok but i don't like aramok
[08:16] <Shaxor> when i dubble click on the song i want to listen to in banshee a red x pops up on the left side of the song name
[08:18] <Shaxor> I tried .ogg and .mp3 file format but it doesn't play
[08:19] <jussi01> !res
[08:21] <ubu4> Hallo
[08:21] <ubu4> alles goed?
[08:21] <ubu4> hi everything ok ?
[08:22] <ubu4> someone here?
[08:22] <ubu4> hi
[08:22] <ubu4> hello ?
[08:22] <ubu4> im on school
[08:22] <ubu4> please chat with me
[08:22] <ubu4> hallo?
[08:22] <Tm_T> ubu4: this is not general chat channel, try #kubuntu-offtopic or even more general, #defocus
[08:24] <ubu4> hllo
[08:24] <ubu4> iemand?
[08:25] <ubu4> hllo
[08:25] <ubu4> dario?
[08:25] <ubu3> jio cv
[08:25] <ubu4> ja me u?
[08:25] <ubu3> cv
[08:25] <ubu4> ok
[08:25] <ubu4> cool he
[08:25] <Tm_T> please, use offtopic channels
[08:25] <ubu4> lorenzo ?
[08:25] <ubu3> dario
[08:25] <ubu4> tim , its our language
[08:25] <ubu4> en lorenzo?
[08:26] <ubu4> hallo ? lorenzo
[08:26] <ubu4> hha
[08:26] <ubu2> xD
[08:26] <ubu4> xD
[08:26] <ubu2> yu
[08:26] <FloodBotK1> ubu4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:26] <ubu4> ja
[08:26] <ubu3> die eetzaal moe gij lang aanschuiven
[08:26] <ubu2> haha mike is ier ooook
[08:27] <ubu4_> hllo,
[08:27] <ubu2> bieste, !!!
[08:31] <Tm_T> sorry for all this noise, my huge mistake
[08:41] <Krooks> I'm wondering should I go with nxserver-freeedition or freenx ? I don't really see whats the advantage of using the freenx.
[08:45] <chakie_work> aha, apport seems to be some bug reporting app
[08:45] <chakie_work> perhaps the apport-kde dialog could say why it needs my password
[08:46] <chakie_work> not just "apport-kde needs administrative privileges"
[08:46] <chakie_work> to me it looked like a dumb trojan
[08:46] <jussi01> !bug | chakie_work
[08:47] <chakie_work> jussi01: yes, and?
[08:48] <chakie_work> aha, you mean that the bug reporting is buggy and i should report a bug about the bug reporting?
[08:48] <jussi01> chakie_work: youve found a bug in that apport doesnt tell you something you need to know. PLease make sure you file a bug so it gets fixed :)
[08:48] <chakie_work> poetry, i has it
[08:48] <jussi01> :)
[08:48] <chakie_work> launchpad needs me to register
[08:48] <chakie_work> i tried it once some distros ago, couldn't register
[08:50] <atlefren> i'm having some trouble with external monitors in 9.10... One VGA screen and one DVI screen connected to a HP EliteBook 8530p (Radeon HD 3650).. If i boot kubuntu with all screens connected i only the laptop monitor works, turning on the other screens using xrandr results in "xrandr: cannot find crtc for output"..  However, it doesn't connect. Any ideas?
[10:03] <szili> hy all
[10:35] <ahox_> Does no-one know about the knetworkmanager-vpnc module?
[10:36] <ahox_> From forums etc I am not sure it works. Suse claims it does, some other posting say otherwise. So what is the current status?
[10:37] <jwx> I would also like to know about this
[10:41] <Guest4816> hi
[10:41] <giuseppe__> salve a tutti
[10:41] <giuseppe__> qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[10:44] <wilsby29> I can't get konversation to auto identify on this server
[10:44] <wilsby29> anyone know of a guide?
[10:44] <wilsby29> it's confusing, it asks for my name, my nickname, my server identification, password, etc...
[10:44] <wilsby29> loads of stuff that means the same to me
[10:45] <wilsby29> it's horribly confusing
[10:47] <jussi01> wilsby29: just put your nickserv password as the server password.
[10:47] <wilsby29> jussi01, ok, thanks
[10:48] <wilsby29> test
[10:48] <Riddell> ahox_: plasma-widget-networkmanagement may work with VPNs from this archive https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[10:49] <wilsby29> how do I check if I'm identified?
[10:50] <ahox_> Riddell: I already use this archive...
[10:53] <chris______> hm
[10:54] <Idhan> I need help.. I cann't mout a blank cd
[10:54] <Idhan> I get this error: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:56] <knosklo> Idhan: that means the cd is mounted
[10:56] <TheKro> Idhan: this is because you can't just copy files to and from a CD like with a normal drive
[10:56] <knosklo> Idhan: it is not an error
[10:56] <TheKro> Idhan: you need to use some kind of cd-burning software (like k3b) to burn a collection of files to CD
[10:57] <Idhan> TheKro: k3b is asking me for a empty cd.. k3b shows that is a empty cd..but when I go to burn a iso file, k3b ask me for a empty medium
[10:57] <Idhan> TheKro: so..I don't know what is wrong
[10:57] <wilsby29> got it that time
[10:58] <wilsby29> ;-)
[10:58] <wilsby29> I think kde 4.3 is awesome
[10:58] <wilsby29> I have upgraded to 9.10 and noticed I don't have an /etc/conf directory any more
[10:58] <wilsby29> when can I find the config settings now?
[11:00] <JediMaster> does anyone know why the background from gnome/ubuntu keeps showing up in kubuntu while logged into KDE? (it's a ubuntu karmic 9.10 install with kububuntu-desktop installed)
[11:01] <JediMaster> in fact, at the moment I've got the kde bar down the bottom but the gnome desktop
[11:01] <JediMaster> but only on desktop 1 it seems, the others don't
[11:02] <Idhan> is here anybody using separate widgets from the desktop and the daskboard??
[11:03] <Idhan> because when I see widgets in my dashboard they are lost if I restart my sesion k9.10
[11:07] <vietred> hi all
[11:07] <vietred> how can I make grub 2 look nice like gfxboot?
[11:14] <ghostcube> why has a boot manager to look nice
[11:14] <ghostcube> o.O
[11:14] <ghostcube> it should boot anything thats nice
[11:43] <seicherlbob> hi there! i have installed karmic on my desktop with a ATI X1900 graphics card, using xorg radeon driver. In KDE control panel, i cant configure a dual head system. i configured X with a big virtual screen but using xrandr for dualscreening leads to two balck screens. does anyone know how to configure dualheads nowadays??
[11:56] <imagine> hi @all.. habe das "getline" problem bei kolab-setup in procmail-src. kann es nicht lösen. wer kann helfen?
[11:56] <imagine> ubuntu 9.10
[11:57] <bazhang> !de | imagine
[11:57] <imagine> ^^
[11:58] <imagine> having getline problem in kolab-src-install on ubuntu 9.10 with procmail-src. somebody experience? I cannot solve
[12:00] <seicherlbob> Hi! KDE Control panel tells me, that my system is not supporting dual head displays... i'm running ATI x1900 with 2 Monitors (working in dualhead on serperate windows installation). I already tried setting virtual screen in xorg.conf but using xrandr makes my screens only black. anyone here that has dualheads up and running in karmic??
[12:01] <imagine> ati driver original?
[12:01] <seicherlbob> imagine: oss driver
[12:01] <seicherlbob> imagine: "radeon" driver
[12:06] <imagine> apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control
[12:09] <ville__> Hi! Kubuntu crashed while upgrading to 9.10. After that I got "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted". Never got over that, so I used recovery console to remount sda3 with rw access and finished upgrade. Now I think my Python2.6 is broken. Trying to install (almost) anything gives "'import site' failed..."
[12:35] <zpt-rafi> I want to join channel #java but it says "You need to be identified to join that channel"
[12:36] <a> Where I am?
[12:38] <EagleScreen> a: you are in #kubuntu
[12:38] <EagleScreen> !hello | a
[12:39] <EagleScreen> zpt-rafi: you have to register your name with NickServ service to join #java
[12:41] <zpt-rafi> EagleScreen: I've registered the nick. do I have to verify from email as well ?
[12:42] <dcorbin_work> ust upgraded to karmic.  There's a horrible checkboard background on half of my twinview display.  What's up with that?
[12:43] <zpt-rafi> EagleScreen: ahh thnx. After email varification it works
[12:47] <ahox_> Hi, also my plasma-desktop does not start automaticly anymore after I tried out plasma-netbook. So where are those settings?
[12:49] <noaXess> !nfs
[12:57] <ville__> Hi! Kubuntu crashed while upgrading to 9.10. After that I got "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted". Never got over that, so I used recovery console to remount sda3 with rw access and finished upgrade. Now I think my Python2.6 is broken. Trying to (re)install (almost) anything gives "'import site' failed..." (including 'apptitude install -f'). How can I fix this?
[12:58] <caris_mere> Where is the equivalent to "/boot/grub/menu.lst" in 9.10?
[12:59] <EagleScreen> /boot/grub/grub.cfg, but this shouldn't be edited manually
[13:00] <caris_mere> I just want to change the default os
[13:00] <EagleScreen> chek file /etc/default/grub
[13:00] <EagleScreen> edit it and after, run sudo update-grub
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:04] <caris_mere> thanks
[13:09] <noaXess> if i open a document with openoffice writer over a nfs mounted share, it can be opened only in read mode
[13:10] <jasabella> no geocities :(
[13:12] <noaXess> but i can create files/folders on a nfs mounted share.. but no edit existing files/folders
[13:14] <u19809> are there qt 4.5.3 backport packages for 9.04 ?
[13:28] <alvin> /var/log/installer/syslog of a server, using cciss: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315068/
[13:28] <alvin> Now, I'll look for another fresh installation I can reach from here.
[13:30] <alvin> This is from the 'usb stick install'. (note that I changed it from /dev/sdf1 to /dev/sde1):
[13:30] <alvin> /dev/sde1                       /               ext2    noatime,errors=remount-ro       0       1
[13:30] <alvin> Other note: I didn't have to change it in order to boot. Only the grub root= had the be adjusted for that! (df showed /dev/sde1, while /dev/sdf1 was the value in /etc/fstab)
[13:31] <FloodBotK1> alvin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:31] <alvin> (sorry, I only pasted 1 line)
[13:32] <noaXess> !nfs
[13:35] <alvin> (sorry, was putting stuff in the wrong channel too)
[13:46] <TheKro> how do i find out if gnokii is compiled with bluetooth support?
[13:49] <bbeck> Has anyone had any luck getting the Kopete plasmoid to do anything?
[13:49] <Guest20439> .
[13:50] <ahmedtaufiq> .
[13:51] <ahmedtaufiq> hi, is ther any one to help me on php related issues ?
[13:52] <ahmedtaufiq> ?
[13:53] <EagleScreen> try in #php
[13:54] <TheKro> is there a way to run gnokii without sudo? (I need to give it sudo to access /dev/rfcomm0)
[13:56] <EagleScreen> which group is /dev/rfcomm0 part of?
[13:59] <TheKro> ownership is root.dialout (but the device only exists after I've bound it)
[13:59] <TheKro> do i need to add my user to dialout?
[13:59] <EagleScreen> yes
[14:02] <TheKro> EagleScreen: the group isn't listed under user management
[14:02] <okabantu> waw
[14:02] <okabantu> hi
[14:02] <TheKro> (show system groups is checked)
[14:02] <seicherlbob> Hi! KDE Control panel tells me, that my system is not supporting dual head displays... i'm running ATI x1900 with 2 Monitors (working in dualhead on serperate windows installation). I already tried setting virtual screen in xorg.conf but using xrandr makes my screens only black. anyone here that has dualheads up and running in karmic?? I'd love to use the radeon driver and no propreatary ATI stuff.
[14:03] <TheKro> EagleScreen: but even more bizarre: it is in /etc/groups, and there I am a member of the group
[14:05] <Bandung> !resetpanels
[14:05] <Bandung> ?
[14:07] <TheKro> EagleScreen: don't worry - i've managed to make a direct bluetooth connection without rfcomm.
[14:09] <tominglis> hey, a recent set of updates to kubuntu 9.10, seems to have messed up my kontact / kmail? it loads up on startup now, and i don't know how to stop that, and also when i click reply or forward it doesn't include the text?
[14:09] <tominglis> does anyone know what i can do to fix this?
[14:13] <EagleScreen> tominglis: chek Systemsettings -> Advanced -> Startup for any entry about kmail
[14:13] <tominglis> autostart? yeah i had a look in there, and there's no mention of it
[14:14] <BluesKaj> kmail  has been buggy since 7.10, very unfortunate :(
[14:14] <seicherlbob> can anyone help me with ATI dualhead graphics with open source "radeon" driver?
[14:15] <EagleScreen> tominglis: surely the eror is in any configuration file in your user profile
[14:15] <EagleScreen> test with clean user enviroment
[14:16] <tominglis> ok, i can do, but i haven't changed anything to make this happen afaik, since i restarted after some bug fixes, it loads up every time, and doesn't copy text for reply or find actions
[14:17] <tominglis> sorry, forward
[14:25] <tominglis> the templates in kmail config now seem to have %BLANK?
[14:30] <tizzo> como faço pra instalar o driver ta ati radeon 4890?
[14:30] <kaddi> !br
[14:35] <TheKro> so what application should i use for connecting to the internet through my cell phone?
[14:51] <damien_> hey guys
[14:59] <anoneemouse> hi... i tried to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and it failed... can anyone help me fix it?
[14:59] <anoneemouse> it spent all night downloading packages and then failed on 0%
[14:59] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, how did you try to upgrde ?
[15:00] <anoneemouse> i used the update notifier thingy
[15:00] <BluesKaj> update-manager?
[15:00] <anoneemouse> yeah
[15:01] <anoneemouse> is there some sort of log that i can check for errors?
[15:01] <carpii> /var/log/apt maybe
[15:02] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, open a terminal : sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:02] <anoneemouse> one question though, will it download all the packages again?
[15:02] <anoneemouse> i have very limited bandwidth per month
[15:03] <BluesKaj> it will look for them , if they are already there , they will install
[15:05] <anoneemouse> You have to download a total of 68.3k <- i take it the packages are there then?
[15:06] <tazz> whats the alternative for libcaptury-dev in 9.10 ?
[15:06] <anoneemouse> im getting syntax errors in the available file... where can i paste?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> !paste
[15:07] <anoneemouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/315132/
[15:13] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, ok run: sudo apt-get update
[15:13] <anoneemouse> done
[15:13] <dcorbin_work> Just upgraded to karmic.  There's a horrible checkerboard background on half of my twinview display.  What's up with that?
[15:14] <anoneemouse> should i try running the upgrade again?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:15] <anoneemouse> ok im running it... will take a while it has to donwload 38 megs of data(yes my connection is slow) :)
[15:15] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, then if no errors , sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:16] <anoneemouse> no wait... only 3.6 megs
[15:16] <anoneemouse> ok
[15:16] <anoneemouse> i looked at the file that was giving the problems... the package that gives this error has a shell script where there is supposed to be a package description
[15:17] <anoneemouse> i got the same error now
[15:18] <anoneemouse> im tempted to just edit the file... can that hurt?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, well, it's nor working so give the edit a try
[15:20] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, I was going to suggest sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:20] <anoneemouse> might that be a better option?
[15:20] <genii> anoneemouse: sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update
[15:21] <BluesKaj> ahh cool genii , that's new to me
[15:21] <genii> (clears the "available" list, then apt-get update makes a new one)
[15:21] <anoneemouse> it produced no errors
[15:21] <anoneemouse> im running release upgrade again
[15:26] <blablabla> hello
[15:27] <anoneemouse> new error now
[15:27] <anoneemouse> :/
[15:27] <anoneemouse> dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 135
[15:27] <anoneemouse> Exception during pm.DoInstall():  E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[15:27] <FloodBotK1> anoneemouse: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <anoneemouse> oops... sorry
[15:27] <florin_> helo
[15:28] <tazz> i have made a minor edit to http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian#Build_prerequisites if some of you have time please review it.
[15:28] <blablabla> this is my first time here
[15:28] <blablabla> how can i install MIROtv
[15:29] <bazhang> blablabla, from the package manager or the command line: sudo apt-get install miro
[15:30] <blablabla> thanks
[15:32] <genii> anoneemouse: Can you use pastebin to show result of: sudo dpkg --audit
[15:33] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, this is a shot in the dark : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:33] <anoneemouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/315157/
[15:33] <anoneemouse> problem is with libc it seems
[15:33] <homer-80> hi I'm in trouble with cam it cannot install the cam
[15:34] <blablabla> i have also a problem to get GnuBackgammon
[15:35] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, sudo dpkg --configure libc-bin
[15:35] <anoneemouse> ok i did that
[15:35] <anoneemouse> now im running the upgrade again
[15:35] <blablabla> by the way mirotv works,thanks
[15:35] <bazhang> its not in bsdgames ?
[15:37] <blablabla> i don't know bazhang
[15:37] <wassup> hi
[15:37] <bazhang> blablabla, try apt-cache search backgammon in the konsole
[15:38] <wassup> quick question - I'm looking for a distro for a person that has never had any experience with linux before and will never ever use anything like console or type in any commands - is kubuntu o.k. with such an approach?
[15:38] <bazhang> !info gnubg | blablabla
[15:39] <EagleScreen> hello
[15:39] <TheKro> what is the KDE equivalent for blueman?
[15:39] <eagles0513875> !apache
[15:39] <TheKro> !blueman
[15:39] <anoneemouse> im getting the same error, but now only once... still for libc-bin
[15:39] <wassup> ...anyone?
[15:39] <EagleScreen> LAMP also can be Linux-Apache-MySQL-Python
[15:39] <anoneemouse> audit now returns nothing
[15:41] <anoneemouse> im going to try once more...
[15:42] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, try : sudo dpkg --reconfigure libc-bin
[15:42] <anoneemouse> okay... ill try that as soon as the upgrade fails again
[15:43] <anoneemouse> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[15:43] <genii> Sorry for lag, this is why I'm still /away
[15:43] <EagleScreen> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:43] <genii> It should be sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[15:43] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, sorry try : sudo dpkg-reconfigure libc-bin
[15:44] <anoneemouse> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libc-bin is broken or not fully installed
[15:44] <BluesKaj> genii, libc-bin , that's apretty serious error , right ?
[15:45] <genii> BluesKaj: Yes
[15:45] <anoneemouse> c library is important.
[15:46] <genii> anoneemouse: I recommend: sudo apt-get clean   then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc-bin
[15:48] <anoneemouse> you seem to know apt pretty well genii
[15:49] <anoneemouse> :) thanks for all the help
[15:49] <genii> anoneemouse: Thats what we're here for :)
[15:49] <BluesKaj> so you are upgrading now , anoneemouse ?
[15:49] <anoneemouse> im going to try now BluesKaj
[15:49] <anoneemouse> it reinstalled libc now
[15:49] <BluesKaj> genii, is the Man! :)
[15:50] <anoneemouse> yeah!
[15:50] <BluesKaj> cool
[15:50] <genii> BluesKaj: Well, sometimes... other times my brain is just mushy
[15:51] <BluesKaj> well genii , was glad i was here ..I learned some new and useful today
[15:51] <anoneemouse> the only disadvantage is that its going to download everything again :/
[15:52] <stc> #irc.net
[15:52] <genii> anoneemouse: Yes, that is the down-side. What probably happened is the libc-bin download got broken but it kept trying to install from the partial file in the archived
[15:53] <anoneemouse> yeah that makes sense... because i kept getting ldconfig bus errors
[15:54] <anoneemouse> so my upgrade will finish in 8 hours :/
[15:57] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, dialup ?
[15:58] <anoneemouse> 384 adsl
[15:58] <seicherlbob> can anyone help me with ATI dualhead graphics with open source "radeon" driver?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, then the repos source server is slow
[15:59] <anoneemouse> 384 kilobits persecond its running at full speed
[16:01] <Squarc> Hey, what is the default workpath for programs used by the alt+F2 program starter?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> anoneemouse, shouldn't take 8 hrs
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Squarc, there is no default , most are in /usr/bin/
[16:03] <Squarc> BluesKaj: ok but I mean.. for instance I start a item using alt+F2, and that item is in the menu... but in the menu editor I see it has no workpath.. then what is the workpath used? ~ ?
[16:03] <anoneemouse> blueskaj: =((1100 *1024) / 48)/60/60
[16:04] <anoneemouse> 6 hours at full speed... im only getting max of 42 kbps
[16:04] <anoneemouse> :)
[16:05] <BluesKaj> but you can also find them with dolphin or konqueror , by typing the path in the addressbar
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Squarc, ok alt+f2 , then kdesudo konqueror /usr/bin/ , usually you'll find the executable in there or sometimes /user/sbin/
[16:08] <BluesKaj> oops /usr/sbin
[16:09] <jhutchins_lt> Couldn't get the system to come out of closed-the-lid suspend, had to power cycle it, then had to reboot to get wireless working.
[16:09] <jhutchins_lt> It starts previously open applications like konversation before it starts networking, which is pretty dumb.
[16:10] <Squarc> BluesKaj: srry thats not what I mean.. but I found out allready by creating myself a bash script that prints the workfolder's path,, thx anyway :)
[16:10] <jhutchins_lt> Is the bugreport app hidden somewhere in the menu, or does it need to be installed?
[16:11] <jhutchins_lt> HAH! Bugreport app is broken!
[16:12] <jhutchins_lt> It proceeds as if you were reporting a problem with an external device even when you check "other problem"!
[16:12] <armin> bonjour tou le monde!
[16:12] <armin> is there any one who speak frenche??
[16:13] <bazhang> !fr
[16:13] <armin> ah merciii vous etes trés gentilles!
[16:14] <spanwave> Hi all , i have just now installed kubuntu9.10 and its the max screen resolution i am getting is 800*600, i want to change my screen resolution to 1024*700, how to do it.
[16:14] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, if you leave an app open while shutting down , the session will restore on the next boot unless you set it up to not to in system settings/adavaned/session manager
[16:15] <spanwave> Hi all , i have just now installed kubuntu9.10 and its max screen resolution i am getting is 800*600, i want to change my screen resolution to 1024*700, how to do it.
[16:22] <Home> is there kubuntu kde3 remix channel?
[16:23] <flootenkerp> Hi, could anyone help me with something about openoffice word processor?
[16:23] <jhutchins_lt_> spanwave: You'll need to figure out what driver the system should be using for your chipset and generate an xorg.conf file that uses that.  I'm a bit fuzzy on the details myself, I'm stuck at 1024x768.
[16:24] <flootenkerp> It keeps asking that I recover the file, then when I do, it says recovery failed, but still opens up the file
[16:24] <flootenkerp> It's strange, and I want to get rid of that. Any way how?
[16:24] <spanwave> jhutchins_lt_: how to find out the drivers
[16:26] <jhutchins_lt_> :s sshd
[16:27] <flootenkerp> Could anyone help please? I'd appreciate it, I need openoffice to do my work and other things.
[16:27] <jhutchins_lt_> spanwave: Not sure, google your chipset (lspci | grep -i vga to find chipset)
[16:27] <jhutchins_lt_> !s sshd
[16:27] <jhutchins_lt_> sshd?
[16:27] <jhutchins_lt_> !sshd
[16:27] <jhutchins_lt_> Rusty with the bots.
[16:29] <flootenkerp> Sorry if I'm being a little impatient or pushy, but I really need to fix this error so I can get on with my work.
[16:30] <jhutchins_lt> These lock-ups are getting annoying.
[16:31] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Yes, I understand about restarting open apps, but it should start basic system services, like wifi, before it starts apps that need them like konversation.
[16:32] <flootenkerp> ?
[16:33] <jhutchins_lt>  As it is, konversation spins through several attempts to start up waiting for the network connection.
[16:33] <jhutchins_lt> Any idea why apt-cache search wouldn't find openssh-server?
[16:34] <JontheEchidna> Konversation 1.3 will have network detection and not try to repeatedly connect when the network is down
[16:34] <flootenkerp> Could anyone help please?
[16:37] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: We're just fellow users here.  If someone knows an answer they may speak up.  If your original question has scrolled off screen, you can ask again in five minutes.  Be patient.
[16:37] <flootenkerp> ok, sorry. It's just important for my work, so my patience is a little off
[16:44] <flootenkerp> I'm getting an error on openoffice word processor, it asks me to recover a file, and when I try to, it says it failed and opens the file up anyway. How would I get rid of this error?
[16:45] <jhutchins_lt> plasma is kde4, right?
[16:45] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: I had that with 6.something, what release are you using?
[16:46] <flootenkerp> Hm, I'm not sure
[16:46] <flootenkerp> I got it on ubuntu 9.4
[16:47] <flootenkerp> I've searched it, but it tells me to delete some file, but the errors I've found were with openoffice on XP.
[16:48] <alexandre__> oi tudo bem?
[16:48] <_abbenormal> has anyone used the nvidia bin on 9.10
[16:48] <_abbenormal> is there a how2 for this out here
[16:49] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Why are you asking here of you're having errors on XP?
[16:49] <flootenkerp> No
[16:49] <flootenkerp> As in the errors I've found on google were for XP
[16:49] <flootenkerp> Not linux
[16:49] <flootenkerp> Which is why I came here
[16:49] <flootenkerp> I'm running ubuntu 9.4
[16:49] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Well, add linux to the search terms, and go ahead and look for the file they said to remove.
[16:50] <flootenkerp> I did, still found the same thing.
[16:50] <jhutchins_lt> I do not like the fact that there's no loading feedback on firefox wih the default decorations.
[16:52] <flootenkerp> What did you do to fix that error on yours jhutchins_It?
[16:53] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Stopped usng the computer that had kubuntu on it and used a different distro for two years.
[16:53] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Not very helpful in your situation, but I would definitely consider upgrading.
[16:54] <flootenkerp> Is there any other word processor for linux similar to microsoft word? And also, in case I consider upgrading, is Kubuntu hard to use? I'm new to linux, so I want to start with easy stuff
[16:55] <anoneemouse> flootenkerp: depends on how you want to use your computer
[16:55] <Vroomfondle> flootenkerp: KOffice
[16:56] <flootenkerp> Well, what do you mean specifically? And thanks Vroom
[16:56] <genii> flootenkerp: For new users, Abiword is easiest to learn. But there is also the KOffice as mentioned, also OpenOffice
[16:56] <anoneemouse> well... i for instance browse the web, email, music production, occasional photoshop
[16:57] <anoneemouse> open office will be your best bet for now... kword is not nearly mature for normal use
[16:57] <flootenkerp> Why?
[16:58] <anoneemouse> why to which question flootenkerp?
[16:58] <flootenkerp> Why is it not mature?
[16:58] <anoneemouse> they are in the process of revamping it
[16:58] <Vlado9A3CY> flootenkerp: the best would be if you try it yourself
[16:58] <flootenkerp> So, try koffice?
[16:59] <Vlado9A3CY> whatever you like flootenkerp
[16:59] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Linux software is a public process with many developers contributing.  Some projects get lots of attention and progress, others don't.   You sure it's safe? And what is updated in 9.10?
[17:02] <ghostcube> flootenkerp: hmm depends on youre pc and configuration
[17:02] <ghostcube> but yes there are some problems in the wild with karmic
[17:02] <Vlado9A3CY> flootenkerp: my laptop works just fine with ubuntu & kubuntu 9.10
[17:03] <F4wltytowers> How do I get media keys and media buttons (on both mouse and keyboard) working in 9.10?
[17:03] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Well of course you would make a backup so you could restore what you have now if something goes wrong.
[17:03] <jhutchins_lt> ubottu: tell F4wltytowers about hotkeys
[17:03] <flootenkerp> Well, yeah, but upgrading seems like a drag. I've had to reinstall ubuntu 5 times from constant screwups of mine.
[17:03] <klebezettel> hello
[17:04] <Vlado9A3CY> klebezettel: hello
[17:04] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: You should look into making a bootable backup DVD for fast recovery, or a disk image with something like clonezilla for fast restores.
[17:04] <F4wltytowers> jhutchins_lt: That does not and cannot work for me
[17:04] <klebezettel> where is the bugtracker for _kubuntu_? bugs.launchpad.net? how to show only kubuntu related stuff?
[17:04] <maco> i dont think you can
[17:04] <jhutchins_lt> klebezettel: Select the right package, it's all one system.
[17:04] <F4wltytowers> I cannot set up media buttons on the mouse
[17:04] <Pici> klebezettel: There is no distiction between bugs for Kubuntu and bugs for Ubuntu, since they use the same repositories.
[17:05] <F4wltytowers> And I want media keys to work system wide
[17:05] <maco> i probably wouldve tried searching for k* back when kde named everything with a k
[17:05] <flootenkerp> okay. I'll keep that in mind, thanks jhutchins
[17:05] <F4wltytowers> That dialog will NOT work for me
[17:05] <jhutchins_lt> F4wltytowers: Then you'll have to find something else.
[17:05] <F4wltytowers> jhutchins_lt: Like what?
[17:06] <jhutchins_lt> F4wltytowers: Mouse buttons have traditionally been configured in xorg.conf, but we don't have one by default any more.
[17:06] <F4wltytowers> So now what?
[17:06] <jhutchins_lt> F4wltytowers: I would suggest you do some searching on "linux" and whatever make and model mouse you have.
[17:06] <F4wltytowers> The only results I get are for xorg.conf
[17:06] <jhutchins_lt> F4wltytowers: We only know what we've either experienced ourselves or what we've discussed.  We don't have your mouse and don't know what you're trying to do with it.
[17:06] <F4wltytowers> If I hadn't searched I wouldn't be in here.
[17:06] <Pici> xorg will still honor additions made to xorg.conf if they are there.
[17:06] <jhutchins_lt> F4wltytowers: We're just fellow users.
[17:06] <F4wltytowers> It's a Microsoft Wireless Laser Desktop 6000.
[17:07] <flootenkerp> Now, there's also one last issue. Sometimes ubuntu would freeze up leaving only my mouse to move. It's random, and I'm not sure of the issue. Anyone have an idea of what it could be?
[17:07] <jhutchins_lt> F4wltytowers: Mine's a touchpad on a toshiba laptop, or an old full-size four button trackball.
[17:07] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Can't click on anything or use the keyboard?
[17:07] <flootenkerp> Nope
[17:07] <jwx> hi, what is the preferred way to connect to vpn pptp with kubuntu 9.10 ?
[17:07] <flootenkerp> just move the mouse.
[17:08] <jhutchins_lt> Same thing is happening here.  I've just enabled sshd so that I can see if I can connect when it's locked up. Only solution so far has been power cycle.
[17:08] <flootenkerp> I've also noticed my computer heats up faster then usual. I think it might be compiz, but I'm not to sure.
[17:08] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: It seemed to happen more often when I had effects enabled.  It also seems like konqueror may be involved, but the last thing that locked it up was the bugreport app.
[17:09] <flootenkerp> Yeah, I have atlantis enabled
[17:09] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Yes, compiz or kde effects will cause greater processor use and faster heating.
[17:09] <flootenkerp> Hm, okay. I guess I'll use less effects. Wish there was a way around it though.
[17:10] <jhutchins_lt> I haven't opened a bugreport yet because I don't know what package to report against.
[17:11] <genii> jhutchins_lt: I had to remove apport because it was itself causing a prob
[17:11] <flootenkerp> Also, one last question before I go. What's the terminal command to install atlantis2? Or is there more to it? I've searched it, but I never seemed to get it to work..
[17:11] <jhutchins_lt> genii: If you did that and the problem went away, did you file a bugreport?
[17:12] <genii> jhutchins_lt: It did solve the prob... but no bug report, sorry
[17:12] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Package install is sudo aptitude install <package>, but I don't know anything specific to atlantis.
[17:12] <jhutchins_lt> genii: Go!  Go!  Report the bug!  It's clearly a bug with apport because it went away when you removed it!
[17:13] <flootenkerp> k, I guess I'll try and find it again.
[17:13] <jhutchins_lt> How can it be fixed if it isn't reported!?
[17:13] <flootenkerp> Thanks for all the help guys.
[17:13] <jhutchins_lt> flootenkerp: Try doing a distribution upgrade.
[17:13] <flootenkerp> How?
[17:13] <jhutchins_lt> ubottu: tell flootenkerp about upgrade
[17:18] <D-coy> joesu
[17:20] <jhutchins_lt> Hm, cups upgrade today.
[17:24] <zoiss> hey guys, i have some problems with my browser and just wanted to know if its a commun bug. firefox (and konqueror) is displaying the page www.sport1.de with errors. firefox on windows is showing everything fine. is there a way to fix it?
[17:28] <jhutchins_lt> zoiss: Find the web page maintainer and beat him untill he corrects the errors.
[17:28] <zoiss> :]
[17:29] <zoiss> ok, so not a problem of missing libraries or something
[17:29] <jhutchins_lt> It's been formatted by/for windows, probably not checked on a different browser.
[17:29] <zoiss> ok thank you
[17:29] <jhutchins_lt> Has some bad html code too.
[17:29] <zoiss> should change my sports page:]
[17:30] <jhutchins_lt> zoiss: Seriously, if they have a "contact us" link, let them know it's not formatting correctly for you.  They can't fix it if they don't know.
[17:30] <zoiss> ok good idea. ill do that
[18:13] <licensed> hey! anybody has problem with "system monitor - hard disk" plasmoid with hdd temperatures?
[18:14] <licensed> my "system monitor - hard disk" plasmoid was showing hdd temps, and didn't show anymore
[18:27] <jhutchins_lt> Where can I configure the startup/shutdown sounds?
[18:27] <Mamarok> jhutchins_lt: in the systemsettings
[18:28] <F4wltytowers> Notifications
[18:28] <F4wltytowers> Under system settings
[18:28] <F4wltytowers> Look under KDE System Notifications
[18:29] <F4wltytowers> Ugh, why is KTorrent stalled? It's been almost an hour now... and this torrent has PLENTY of seeds, I mean, it's the kubuntu iso torrent...
[18:30] <F4wltytowers> Actually, every torrent is stalled
[18:31] <jhutchins_lt> Hm, I would expect some sort of theming there, sensible defaults, global enable/disable...
[18:31] <Mamarok> F4wltytowers: restart it
[18:31] <jhutchins_lt> F4wltytowers: Maybe you're being throttled.
[18:31] <F4wltytowers> I have, multiple times
[18:32] <F4wltytowers> Nope, no throttling.
[18:32] <Mamarok> change your settings
[18:32] <F4wltytowers> I did
[18:32] <F4wltytowers> To match that of my router
[18:32] <jhutchins_lt> F4wltytowers: How do you know you are not being throttled by your ISP?
[18:32] <ronmelscarpanton> hola quien habla español?
[18:32] <Mamarok> !es | ronmelscarpanton
[18:33] <ronmelscarpanton> gracias
[18:33] <F4wltytowers> jhutchins_lt: AT&T doesn't do any throttling. At least, around here.
[18:33] <F4wltytowers> I'm sure of it too.
[18:35] <gerardo_> ciao
[18:35] <ItsMe_> #joun salix
[18:35] <ItsMe_> #join salix
[18:36] <Mamarok> ItsMe_: its /join#channelname
[18:36] <Mamarok> actually /join #
[18:36] <Mamarok> with a space in between :)
[18:36] <jhutchins_lt> /j #channel
[18:36] <Mamarok> jhutchins_lt: read what I just said
[18:36] <Mamarok> no need to repeat it I think
[18:36] <jhutchins_lt> Mamarok: Shorter form.
[18:37] <Mamarok> whatever...
[18:40] <haunilistic> hola. i updated to version 9.10 and now i have this window telling me about error corrections. it's been 27 til yesterday, since today it's 60 and something. if i select "select all" and click update it tells me it's downloading packages, only for 2 seconds, then it says it's finished, but nothing is installed and the packages are again proposed for update. is this a common problem? any solutions?
[18:43] <jhutchins_lt> hansen: You can try manually doing sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[18:44] <haunilistic> jhutchins_lt: is it the same as this error corrections stuff?
[18:45] <jhutchins_lt> haunilistic: Should be.  It installs any new versions of packages you have.
[18:45] <haunilistic> jhutchins_lt: thx, i'm trying
[18:49] <Guest67061> testing...
[18:50] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt,  sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade is depracated
[18:52] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, now the proper sequence is:  sudo aptitude update && sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:55] <dcorbin_work> after upgrading to karmic, kmail does not start for me.  No error's display that I can see.  Ideas to debug this?
[18:58] <maxvanceffer> hallo, did anybody knows qt irc chanel ?
[18:58] <F4wltytowers> !qt
[18:58] <maxvanceffer> if it exist ?
[18:59] <F4wltytowers> Maybe not
[18:59] <BluesKaj> #qt ?
[18:59] <BluesKaj> maxvanceffer, click on the #qt
[19:00] <maxvanceffer> Ouuu
[19:00] <maxvanceffer> Thx
[19:00] <maxvanceffer> didn't managed that was link
[19:04] <ferrolinga> hello
[19:05] <svabhishek> please see this ... http://atuljha.com/content/installing-cmie-products-ubuntu-wine
[19:06] <jhutchins> These lockups are getting OLD.
[19:09] <McNuggz> does anyone but me have problems with samba-sharing in kubuntu 9.10?
[19:10] <fernando_> I miss shares-admin...
[19:12] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know offhand where I can find which version of Kubuntu I'm running?  I forgot when I installed this and can't find it now.
[19:14] <Mamarok> FroggyTheGreat: which KDE do you have?
[19:14] <Mamarok> in any app: help menu -> about KDE
[19:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Right, that's the KDE version, I want the overall distro version.
[19:15] <Mamarok> well, I can probably tell you by KDE version, if you didn't add any special repos
[19:15] <FroggyTheGreat> I've got KDE 3.5.10.
[19:15] <Mamarok> then it is 8.04 most likely
[19:16] <BluesKaj> FroggyTheGreat, lsb_release -a
[19:16] <FroggyTheGreat> And of course I find that myself as soon as I've asked and looked like a fool.
[19:16] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: thx, forgot that
[19:17] <FroggyTheGreat> ok, lsb_release -a
[19:17] <BluesKaj> FroggyTheGreat, Mamarok we all forget sometimes :)
[19:17] <FroggyTheGreat> Does anyone know why Firefox 3.5 is not in the repositories for that version?
[19:17] <Mamarok> FroggyTheGreat: because it is too old?
[19:18] <jhutchins> FroggyTheGreat: It has some bugs that have kept it from being packaged by several distros.
[19:18] <Mamarok> FroggyTheGreat: it's unlikely you get a backport to that version anymore, especially not for KDE
[19:18] <jhutchins> Mamarok: Wait, what?  I thought 3.5 was the latest.
[19:19] <FroggyTheGreat> Oy.  ok.
[19:19] <FroggyTheGreat> Looks like my long-postponed distro update has to happen then.
[19:19] <jhutchins> Mamarok: 3.5.5 is the latest.
[19:20] <FroggyTheGreat> 3.5.5 would be nice...
[19:20] <Mamarok> jhutchins: he is on a too old Kubuntu
[19:20] <BluesKaj> FF3.5 is supposedly the default on karmic
[19:20] <Mamarok> jhutchins: also, I was not talking Firefox version at all, but KDE version
[19:21] <jhutchins> !v firefox
[19:21] <jhutchins> Dang, can't remember how to use firefox.
[19:21] <Mamarok> jhutchins: in a konsole: aptitude show firefox-3.5
[19:21] <BluesKaj> !firefox -v
[19:21] <jhutchins> Er. the bot rather.
[19:21] <BluesKaj> !firefox
[19:21] <jhutchins> Mamarok: Won't do any good, this isn't a kubuntu box.
[19:25] <befree> any italian server ubuntu users??
[19:25] <BluesKaj> !it | befree
[19:25] <befree> thanks a lot ! ;)
[19:26] <FroggyTheGreat> So basically I've got no options if I want FF 3.5.5 on my version.
[19:26] <fernando_>  /msg NickServ identify 368771
[19:27] <F4wltytowers> Why do all of my torrents in ktorrent just stall????????
[19:28] <jimmy_> hi all
[19:30] <jhutchins> Well, he could always use the mozilla installer.
[19:36] <BluesKaj> F4wltytowers, try port fowarding to your router
[19:37] <F4wltytowers> BluesKaj: pardon?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> do you have a router/modem ?
[19:38] <F4wltytowers> BluesKaj: nvm, I've already done that
[19:39] <slow-motion> hi
[19:48] <MetroidMaster> Hello everyone
[19:56] <mariuz> yellow
[19:59] <davidjheinrich> does anyone here know Canonical's US phone number?
[19:59] <Tm_T> why asking?
[20:00] <davidjheinrich> I just had a scare with my "Networking Interface" not working, so maybe thought it was flaky motherboard issue, but can't get help as no internet
[20:00] <davidjheinrich> (the modem was working fine)
[20:00] <Tm_T> davidjheinrich: I don't think you can get much support from Canonical until you have support contract
[20:01] <davidjheinrich> yea, I know, but I'd purchase it if I needed it...i.e., couldn't get internet
[20:01] <davidjheinrich> so if I have that problem again, I can call up, purchase support, then use it
[20:02] <Tm_T> davidjheinrich: I wonder if ubuntu.com and/or canonical.com has the information
[20:03] <davidjheinrich> yea, I'm looking there, don't see any phone #
[20:04] <davidjheinrich> sneaky guys, they probably don't want to give it to u until u purchase tech-support
[20:05] <amgarchIn9> !kdm
[20:08] <amgarchIn9> so people, everything breaks. "Nov 10 21:03:18 novo init: kdm respawning too fast, stopped" even after I dpkg-reconigured gdm and choose gdm. I also removed the link /etc/init.d/kdm. Why is kdm being started at all?
[20:09] <amgarchIn9> I am afraid it is buried somewhre in Upstart configs, but I am not really famiiar with that.
[20:11] <amgarchIn9> when both gdm and kdm are competing for display ubuntu ends up in a propmpt to reconfigure graphics. "Low graphics mode" prompt if you ever seem that.
[20:11] <F4wltytowers> How do I change the bootloader settings?
[20:11] <F4wltytowers> In 9.10
[20:11] <delusion> any help for newbies?
[20:14] <F4wltytowers> Fine, I guess I'm wasting my time then! And people wonder why no one wants to use linux!
[20:14] <Tm_T> erm, what?
[20:15] <michael> hi.  i am desperate.  my kubuntu upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 seems to have gone wrong.  i am on a thinkpad x60, and graphics are insufferably slow. does anyone have suggestions what to try?
[20:15] <amgarchIn9> Tm_T: a nervous kind
[20:15] <Tm_T> amgarchIn9: I know, just humours me still
[20:15] <xdoe> i want to use linux... but i in hard work to use it
[20:16] <xdoe> :S
[20:16] <Tm_T> xdoe: problems? just tell what and if someone can help, they will
[20:17] <xdoe> ok Tm_T, thkx... im in trouble to understand the command thing.... because i try to install rpms but i cant
[20:19] <amgarchIn9> rpms are not for uuntu anyway, xdoe. Search for *.deb files
[20:19] <xdoe> it means there is no way to use them? :S
[20:20] <amgarchIn9> not on ubuntu
[20:20] <xdoe> ...
[20:20] <xdoe> thank you amgarchinln9
[20:20] <v> there is a way to install rpm's
[20:20] <xdoe> ??
[20:21] <xdoe> i've been looking
[20:21] <v> i can't recall the name of the program by there is one to make a .deb out of an .rpm
[20:21] <Shaxor> Hello I can't seem to get Banshee to work, when I try to play a song in banshee it doesn't play and a red x pops up on the left side of the song name but it plays just fine in amarok, And I've tried to use both mp3 and oggs but none work. is there a fix for this?
[20:21] <xdoe> rpm -i package.rpm.. i tried it
[20:21] <xdoe> nothing
[20:21] <amgarchIn9> v: he is new to linux, I dont think he should be doing this
[20:22] <xdoe> i love challenges amgarchln9
[20:22] <xdoe> ;)
[20:22] <michael> ok. it looks like i have kernel 2.6.28-11 installed.  and i dont see how to install the right graphics drivers?  feels kind of stupid, since i did think i wasnt a complete newbi / idiot
[20:23] <v> @xdoe http://finebushpeople.net/LexmarkZ600
[20:23] <v> this is for installing a printer driver that's only in .rpm form
[20:24] <v> but it's all the same
[20:24] <v> it instructs on how to make a .deb out of an .rpm package
[20:25] <xdoe> v, i read about it before... and i tried as well but alien is missing... i did sudo to get it... but nothing
[20:26] <v> ok, why not install alien from KPackagekit like a human being?
[20:27] <v> i mean i also like to tinker with the konsole, but there is a working graphical tool for this
[20:27] <xdoe> lol
[20:27] <v> and by the way to install alien from terninal you need to "sudo apt-get install alien"
[20:27] <DarkriftX> not everyone needs a graphical tool
[20:28] <DarkriftX> sometimes command line is better and faster
[20:28] <AgentX> I am trying to install Kubuntu 9.10 on my desktop. The issue I am having is that the installer does not recognize my Seagate 500GB HDD (ST3500320AS). I have updated the firmware on the drive. Other (smaller) drives do show using the same BIOS settings. Any ideas?
[20:28] <v> truth
[20:28] <xdoe> i did it
[20:28] <DarkriftX> i prefer apt-get to install stuff over a gui
[20:29] <Shaxor> Hello I can't seem to get Banshee to work, when I try to play a song in banshee it doesn't play and a red x pops up on the left side of the song name but it plays just fine in amarok, And I've tried to use both mp3 and oggs but none work. is there a fix for this?
[20:29] <xdoe> my ubuntu sometimes do not let me do things
[20:30] <xdoe> now it worked
[20:30] <admin1> 33
[20:30] <v> amarok uses different set of codecs from banshee
[20:31] <v> you need to install gstreamer
[20:31] <Shaxor> Ahh Okay thank you
[20:31] <v> you're all welcome
[20:32] <xdoe>  what is the best advice you guys could give to "us" newbies?
[20:32] <v> jfgi
[20:32] <xdoe> v, alien its installed :P thanks
[20:32] <xdoe> i got it v
[20:32] <v> you must be a happy little fellar right now
[20:33] <v> :D
[20:33] <xdoe> o0lo
[20:33] <xdoe> i try to
[20:34] <v> ok, you guys, see you around
[20:34] <genii> xdoe: The best advice for linux new users is to learn how to use manpages
[20:35] <xdoe> mainpages?
[20:36] <xdoe> this is not my first try on linux world... but i got sick of windows and crash thing from nothing
[20:36] <xdoe> now i want to discover the magic world of linux
[20:37] <michael> any thoughts on how to get graphics functioning properly? following my (apparently incomplete???) attempt to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 i seem to be stuck with extremely slow graphics.  it takes several seconds to switch windows, or for the kickoff application launcher menu to show up on screen
[20:37] <genii> xdoe: manpages, nor mainpages. They are the Manuals for whichever command you are trying to understand
[20:38] <genii> !man
[20:38] <xdoe> ahhh, now i got it ;) i download one pdf
[20:39] <xdoe> thanks to every1
[20:39] <genii> michael: Is it Intel graphics?
[20:40] <michael> i *think* so.  how do i make certain?
[20:40] <genii> michael: lspci | grep VGA      should say
[20:41] <genii> michael: (from inside Konsole)
[20:42] <genii> michael: Please don't /msg me, i assist only in public channel unless sensitive info is involved. Yes, that result is Intel
[20:42] <genii> !intel
[20:42] <michael> ok. sorry
[20:44] <genii> The factoid states it's for 9.04 but the same info applies
[20:45] <_motti_> hi guys. I'm using the new kubuntu on my machine. How do I install the java plugin for firefox? the auto install doesn't work
[20:46] <genii> _motti_: When it comes up with the license agreement screen, are you using Tab key to switch fields and Enter key to select? Or trying with the mouse
[20:52] <michael> OK. Did what was written on that page.  Diagnosis: /dev/dri/card0 is missing, the suggested steps seem to have no impact.  Rendering is "Software Rasterizer".  Checking var/log/Xorg.0.log shows
[20:52] <michael> (WW) intel(0): DRI2: failed to open drm device
[20:52] <michael> (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
[20:52] <michael> (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[20:52] <FloodBotK1> michael: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <michael> further, it seems i have no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[20:59] <genii> Yes, xorg.conf is not there by default anymore. But if you make one, it still gets used
[21:06] <michael> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg does not seem to create an xorg.conf?
[21:07] <genii> michael: You don't require a complete xorg.conf, just whatever relevent section
[21:08] <cooldavinci> alo :P ?
[21:10] <cooldavinci> holaaa holaaa :P
[21:10] <genii> !hi | cooldavinci
[21:11] <michael> right - be right back
[21:11] <nikolas_> hi alll
[21:13] <nikolas_> wat do i need to download to down load music
[21:14] <genii> !frostwire
[21:14] <cooldavinci> argentina ?
[21:15] <genii> !ar | cooldavinci
[21:15] <michael> ok  - that script seems to do the trick.  so i need to manually start this everytime I log on?
[21:16] <genii> michael: You can put startup scripts in /etc/rc.local for instance
[21:18] <michael> and i add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main to my sources.list? although I am supposedly with karma?
[21:18] <michael> karmic, sorry
[21:19] <genii> michael: I would suggest to just try substitute "karmic" for "jaunty" in the line and see if that repo exists
[21:22] <davidjheinrich> hi all
[21:23] <davidjheinrich> does anyone here know about the status of Epson printer support in Linux?
[21:23] <davidjheinrich> I'm looking for a quality (sub-$400) photo-printer...Epsons have a great reputation for photo-printing, but should I only be looking at HP due to their exceptional Linux support?
[21:24] <MTGap> Has anyone been able to get kword 2 rc 1 installed from the ppa. There seems to be a dpkg error and I don't know how to fix it
[21:25] <luca_> buona sera a tutti!
[21:25] <genii> MTGap: Relating the error message to us might be helpful :)
[21:25] <genii> !it | luca_
[21:26] <MTGap> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kword-data-kde4_1%3a2.0.91-1ubuntu1~ppa9_all.deb (--unpack):
[21:26] <MTGap>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/kword/styles/defaultstyles.xml', which is also in package kword-kde4 1:2.0.2-2ubuntu3
[21:27] <michael> alright, replacing jaunty with karmic works, these repos exist.  however (from the webpage you referred me to), it says that "you need to execute the fixmtrr.sh script each time X (re)starts. Therefore, executing this script in your rc.local script is not sufficient."?
[21:27] <genii> michael: You can also put the script then in an .xinitrc or .xsession file in your home dir
[21:28] <michael> ok.  fine.  it seems to require a sudo - how do i give it these rights automatically?
[21:29] <second_nick> hi
[21:29] <Assok> hi how can i make startx , begin by default?
[21:29] <Assok> when i try to login , x restarts and i get back to login
[21:29] <Assok> i can only have gui if i try console login and then type startx
[21:30] <Assok> now please
[21:32] <gorgonizer_> MTGap: you should be able to do     sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kword-data-kde4_1%3a2.0.91-1ubuntu1~ppa9_all.deb
[21:33] <genii> michael: The fast way is to edit sudoers file to allow your username to use sudo without requiring password
[21:34] <vitamin-carrot> hey does record my desktop work on kubuntu?
[21:36] <MTGap> Cool thanks gorgonizer_ it worked
[21:37] <MTGap> By the way does anyone know how to make the background of yakuake transparent instead of black
[21:37] <vitamin-carrot> hey i guess it down lol
[21:37] <gorgonizer_> MTGap: no worries, have had to use that command myself a number of times :)
[21:37] <MTGap> gorgonizer_: Okay well now I know how to do that
[21:37] <MTGap> it has happened numerous times to me as well
[21:38] <Assok> HELP
[21:38] <Assok> i have a gui only when i try console login and type startx command
[21:38] <Assok> how can i make it this default
[21:38] <genii> Assok: The most common cause of that problem is that files in the /home/username directory got screwed up permissions by for instance running something there as root
[21:39] <genii> (X dumping you back to login)
[21:39] <Assok> yes
[21:39] <Assok> taht happens
[21:39] <Assok> x restarts when i try to login
[21:40] <genii> Assok: So if your username is for instance "joe"  to do: sudo chown -R joe:joe /home/joe
[21:40] <Assok> i have done
[21:40] <Assok> sudo chmod 777 to folder inside my /home/joe
[21:40] <Assok> lets say
[21:41] <gorgonizer_> MTGap: in yakuake, right click on the background and choose Edit Current Profile..
[21:42] <MTGap> sweet thanks
[21:42] <gorgonizer_> Go to the Appearance tab, then select the colour scheme you want, then click the Edit button..
[21:42] <gorgonizer_> you should be able to change the transparency there..
[21:45] <kamil_> hi
[21:52] <vitamin-carrot> i like cheese
[21:53] <slow-motion> bye
[21:53] <vitamin-carrot> cya
[21:53] <vitamin-carrot> i seem to have an issue with my logitech wireless headset
[21:54] <vitamin-carrot> how can i set it as the default sound output and mic for the system?
[22:00] <kingri> Всем Привет
[22:01] <kingri> АУ!
[22:02] <kingri> hello!
[22:02] <kingri> бля меня ктонибуть вообще видит?=)
[22:03] <carpii> English only, sorry :/
[22:03] <kingri> USA?
[22:03] <BluesKaj> !ru
[22:04] <kingri> my not English=) my Rassia
[22:04] <BluesKaj> it doesn't matter whewre you live as long as you speak english in here
[22:05] <kingri> wtf ?=)
[22:06] <genii> kingri: Английская язык в этой области. Русский в #ubuntu-ru
[22:07] <kingri> спасибо !
[22:10] <pulaski> Hello, I'm running karmic 9.10.  I want to play DVDs using dragon player. I don't have a bay in which to put a DVD player. Instead I have a DVD player as a peripheral device and  a hauppauge/winTV card. The card and driver looks good in dmesg here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/315413/  I want to apply video to the devise list in system settings/multimedia/add device list to, but video is grayed out and unlike my sound card the
[22:10] <pulaski>  video card its missing.  How can I make Dragon know the hauppauge card is the source my dvd signal?
[22:12] <pulaski> I'll be back
[22:15] <adam> hi can anyone help me with kubuntu 9.10 install please
[22:16] <vitamin-carrot> what up adam?
[22:17] <adam> im currently running 9.04 kubuntu dual booting with windows 7, but wanted to upgrade to the latest version 9.10 but although the upgrade via apt-get does complete when rebooting and getting into the os the trackpad doesnt work, it doesnt recognise my wifi onboard card although never had any probs with previous versions
[22:19] <Shaxor> Hay There, Okay strate to the point, I have been trying to get Banshee to work, and some one told me i have to install gstreamer, How do i go about installing  Gstreamer on Kubuntu 9.10, I tried using apt-get but i get nothing, is there a better way?
[22:19] <vitamin-carrot> i think there is a known issue with knetworkmanager and wifi cards
[22:20] <adam> also, i wiped the kubuntu partition and attempted a clean install but once the cd spins up and runs the splash screen i choose a language and then choose run live version but it just freezes
[22:20] <TheGentleman> Hello. Running Kubuntu Karmic from a live CD, how can I access the hard disk of the computer?
[22:20] <adam> and ive tried every variation of the f6 options and also the graphic safe mode but nothing i do will allow me to install it
[22:21] <adam> TheGentleman you will need to mount the  hard disk
[22:21] <adam> make a folder ie Install in a location you know such as the desktop
[22:21] <adam> then
[22:21] <adam> do "mount install/ /dev/sda1
[22:22] <Shaxor> adam are you trying to install it from a cd?
[22:22] <TheGentleman> why the folder adam ?
[22:22] <Shaxor> I had the same problem, but when i redownloaded the iso and burned a new Live CD it worked just fine
[22:22] <adam> basically the folder acts as a location for you to view the files
[22:23] <adam> so that when you cd to install/ you will be able to view the hard disk rather than just the live cd
[22:23] <TheGentleman> aren't HD normally mountad in /mnt or /media ?
[22:23] <adam> if you run fdisk -l and look at the disk partitions you should see which one you need to mount mine was /dev/sda5
[22:24] <adam> it doesnt matter where you mount it you can mount them anywhere
[22:24] <TheGentleman> ok, thanks
[22:25] <nightwlkr> hellow am having a problem regarding screen resolution using a crt screen on an nvidia geforce vga
[22:25] <adam> shaxtor ive tried the upgrade option and that completes but fails to allow me to use my wifi or my trackpad, i thought it may have missed something during the upgrade so tried a clean install but thats even worse it doesnt load anything after choosing the language
[22:26] <adam> ive also just tried installing it in virtualbox to see if it gets any further but it doesnt it gets to the same point and then dies
[22:26] <adam> also the kubuntu load bar is in two pieces one in the middle as normal and one part at the bottom of the screen
[22:30] <nightwlkr> any1 able to help me with my screen problem?
[22:31] <Michiduta> nightwlkr : what is your problem?
[22:32] <nightwlkr> Michiduta: i changed my screen to a 19" crt now my max resolution is 640x480
[22:32] <nightwlkr> was running very good previously on my 19" wide lcd screen
[22:33] <Michiduta> Maybe you need to install some drivers for that monitor
[22:33] <Michiduta> Check to see if you have any hardware configuration issues
[22:34] <Michiduta> What operating system are you on?
[22:34] <nightwlkr> my vga is nvidea geforce fx 5500 vga was running fine with driver installed
[22:34] <nightwlkr> there r no new drivers detected that need to b activated
[22:35] <Michiduta> Did you recently update your drivers?
[22:35] <nightwlkr> and am running kubuntu 9.04
[22:35] <nightwlkr> no i just changed monitor
[22:35] <Michiduta> It is known that newer versions of drivers are incompatible with older graphics card
[22:36] <Michiduta> You should switch to 9.10
[22:36] <nightwlkr> well the graphic card is fine..my desktop effects r still on
[22:36] <Michiduta> I also had some screen issues while ussing 9.04
[22:36] <nightwlkr> ya well 9.10 is 700mb
[22:36] <Michiduta> Use the automatic updater
[22:36] <nightwlkr> to download that with my connection that's like a month :P
[22:37] <Michiduta> To download the updated packages
[22:37] <nightwlkr> that's what the auto updater says... needs to download 715mb of data for a full upgrade
[22:37] <Michiduta> What's your connection speed? Mine is 200 kb/s download and it took somewhere between 3 and 6 hours to download and install
[22:38] <adam> wow what speed broadband are you using
[22:38] <Michiduta> :))
[22:38] <adam> ive got a 1mb adsl and it took an hour and half to download
[22:38] <Michiduta> I am currently using Clicknet
[22:38] <nightwlkr> hellow...am from lebanon :P
[22:39] <nightwlkr> i have a 128 kbps that's in its best condition :P
[22:39] <Michiduta> Oh sorry
[22:39] <nightwlkr> if u sit on my pc to work online u'd probably shoot urself :P
[22:39] <adam> hi all can anyone assist with kubuntu install issues please, more than just a novice please, shaxor has tried helping which im very greatful for but his suggestions ive already tried
[22:40] <nightwlkr> adam what's ur problem? i went through alot during installation
[22:40] <Michiduta> kubuntu install issues? that's a first
[22:40] <Michiduta> Did you try the kubuntu forum?
[22:41] <theoneandonlynic> hello there
[22:41] <nightwlkr> adam from what i read above u'r computer freezing during installation after choosing language
[22:41] <Michiduta> That's the ideal place to get help as the developers themselves also browse the forum and are usually more suited to deal with any issues realted to Kubuntu
[22:42] <Michiduta> related*
[22:42] <adam> nightwlkr yeah thats the one
[22:42] <nightwlkr> adam just for the sake of trying..did u try no acpi and all that options disabled ?
[22:42] <slow-motion> re
[22:42] <adam> Michiduta  this is the kubuntu part of the irc
[22:42] <nightwlkr> i had such issues
[22:43] <adam> i tried all the variations in the f6 part yeah
[22:43] <Michiduta> Yes i know but the messages aren't stored anywhere and thos that are not currently online cannot see your issue can they?
[22:44] <adam> i know but ive already posted a message on the forum
[22:44] <Michiduta> Well then why didn't you say so in the first place :P
[22:44] <adam> and raised a fault ticket with trackpad online but they want more debug info to assist but i cant do that as i need this laptop working for work so ive reverted back to 9.04 as my laptop is a must
[22:45] <Michiduta> so you're sayint that if you do a fresh install it freezes?
[22:46] <Michiduta> how about an upgrade?
[22:46] <Michiduta> saying*
[22:46] <adam> upgrade kills my trackpad and wifi after reboot and laptop goes extremely slow
[22:46] <Michiduta> :|
[22:47] <adam> its not my laptop as its an extremely good spec and only 6 months old and is currently dual booting with windows 7 and kubuntu 9.04
[22:47] <Guest20915> how do i install screensavers on kubuntu 9.10?
[22:48] <Michiduta> Maybe it's too young for the developers to have made good driver support for it
[22:48] <Michiduta> Although it's weird
[22:48] <Michiduta> That 9.04 works
[22:48] <adam> i originally used 8.10 then upgraded to 9.04 and no problems ever for those other versions
[22:49] <Michiduta> 9.04 gave me some weird screen issues
[22:49] <Michiduta> My monitor would sometimes draw colored lines all over my screen and freeze
[22:49] <Guest57755> how do i install screensavers on kubuntu 9.19
[22:49] <nightwlkr> Michiduta: if u take my oppinion i used 7.04 version of kubuntu some time agp..with kde 3 it was way better
[22:49] <adam> anthony / guest57755 stop swapping its radiculously annoying
[22:50] <Michiduta> Well this new version of kde brought a lot of changes and a lot of bugs still remain
[22:50] <Guest57755> idk how to stay on anthony...
[22:50] <Guest57755> it keeps switching me
[22:50] <Michiduta> But in time they will be fixed if they will be reported
[22:50] <adam> I know but not meaning to sound stupid but no one in their right mind releases an OS that has so many bugs
[22:51] <Guest57755> can u answer my question please?
[22:51] <nightwlkr> honestly am confused howcome so many ppl work on this and support it ..but at the same time keep it free :P
[22:51] <adam> Michiduta i wanted to originally install ubuntu but that wouldnt install on my laptop so had to opt for kubuntu and im glad i did but ubuntu still doesnt work even after 2 more version releases
[22:52] <Guest57755> adam: can u tell me how to install screensavers on ubuntu 9.10
[22:52] <Michiduta> Guest... ubuntu or kubuntu?
[22:52] <Guest57755> kubuntu
[22:53] <Michiduta> just a sec
[22:53] <adam> not sure i just use the default hold on ill have a look
[22:54] <noaXess> are there any nfs gui tools?
[22:54] <lpadilla> hi there
[22:55] <Michiduta> open kpackagekit
[22:55] <adam> there is a package called kscreensaver-xsavers
[22:55] <adam> do apt-get install kscreensaver-xsavers and there are loads of screensavers included
[22:55] <Guest57755> kk ty
[22:56] <Guest57755> umm this is weird.
[22:56] <adam> what
[22:56] <Guest57755> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[22:56] <Guest57755> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[22:56] <Michiduta> use sudo before apt-get
[22:56] <Guest57755> thats what it said
[22:56] <Michiduta> sudo apt-get install kscreensaver-xsavers
[22:56] <adam> haha sorry i thought you would know that
[22:57] <adam> anytime you want to install or run a program as root (administrator) you must put sudo
[22:57] <adam> either that or type "su -" and then press enter and enter your root password
[22:57] <Guest57755> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. now it said this
[22:58] <Michiduta> just copy paste that command
[22:58] <nightwlkr> adam if he didn't know sudo i doubt he knows his root pass
[22:58] <nightwlkr> :P
[22:58] <Guest57755> i did
[22:58] <adam> what app manager are you using?
[22:58] <adam> this is true lol
[22:58] <nightwlkr> i don't know what it is in default for root but i always change it..though i donno if it's such a good idea
[22:58] <Guest57755> aight i got it workin now.
[22:59] <Guest57755> and yes i did know the sudo thing just didnt see he did not type it
[22:59] <Michiduta> the root password is the one you use when first creating a user account during install
[22:59] <adam> lol sorry dude
[22:59] <nightwlkr> Michiduta: that's not the case for a root account
[23:00] <Michiduta> ?
[23:00] <adam> Michiduta what isnt the case?
[23:00] <nightwlkr> when u write su in terminal it tries to login as root and asks for root pass
[23:00] <adam> yes
[23:00] <Michiduta> and the root pass is the one you use to login :)
[23:00] <nightwlkr> no man
[23:00] <adam> no
[23:00] <Michiduta> at least for me it is
[23:00] <Michiduta> :P
[23:01] <adam> you should never login as root
[23:01] <nightwlkr> u have root, and u have the account u created during install
[23:01] <nightwlkr> has root priviledges yes but that's not the ROOT account
[23:01] <Michiduta> refresh my memory... when do you set your root pass?
[23:01] <adam> root has full control of everything if you login as root your risking doing something by accident and screwing up your os
[23:01] <nightwlkr> u don't
[23:02] <Michiduta> Well i wasn't referring as login as root
[23:02] <nightwlkr> unless u go to account manager and set a pass for root
[23:02] <Michiduta> only using your own login password to use the sudo command
[23:02] <adam> if you use "sudo" before any command and put your own account password it will give you root privillages temporarily
[23:02] <nightwlkr> su logs u in as root
[23:02] <Michiduta> yes adam that';s what i meant
[23:03] <nightwlkr> Michiduta: lets say ur username is x when u created it during setup
[23:03] <Michiduta> It gives you root privileges for 15 min by default
[23:03] <nightwlkr> run a terminal and type su and set the pass u have on ur account
[23:03] <Michiduta> ok...
[23:04] <nightwlkr> unless u have set "root" pass to the same it will give u authentication failure
[23:04] <nightwlkr> Password:
[23:04] <nightwlkr> su: Authentication failure
[23:05] <adam> although its not a good idea to change your root password you can by doing "sudo passwd root" and it will let you change it but its not a good idea
[23:05] <Michiduta> So that means i was right? The login password is used as a root password
[23:06] <nightwlkr> used to give u root privileges yes, but not as root pass
[23:06] <nightwlkr> adam: why's that a bad idea?
[23:07] <adam> for novices
[23:07] <Michiduta> Oh well i never intend to use full root privileges as i do not know a lot about how the commands work and it would be a darn shame to mess it up
[23:07] <adam> i wouldnt recommend changing it its much better to get in the practice of sudo
[23:08] <Guest83333> hola
[23:08] <Michiduta> By the way is this a channel used only for kubuntu related info?
[23:09] <Michiduta> Like for example can we chat about music?
[23:09] <Guest83333> soy de venezuela
[23:09] <Michiduta> Hola :)
[23:09] <Michiduta> From romania
[23:09] <Guest83333> hola rumina como estas
[23:09] <nightwlkr> i doubt it's restricted Michiduta but that would really b painfull for those logging :P
[23:10] <Michiduta> No english?
[23:10] <Michiduta> Guest
[23:10] <Michiduta> :)
[23:10] <Guest83333> no para nada
[23:10] <Michiduta> ....
[23:11] <Michiduta> you're right nightwlkr
[23:11] <Guest83333> no entiendo nada
[23:11] <Michiduta> by the way why didn't you use nightwalker as your nickname?
[23:11] <nightwlkr> i think it's taken
[23:11] <nightwlkr> besides everywhere i use nightwlkr never taken :P
[23:12] <Michiduta> ok :p it's just that it's kinda difficult to type your name :P
[23:12] <nightwlkr> night tab :P
[23:12] <Michiduta> neat
[23:12] <Michiduta> :D
[23:12] <Michiduta> thanks for the heads up
[23:12] <nightwlkr> anytime Michiduta
[23:13] <Michiduta> Damn i like Kubutnu more and more by the day
[23:13] <Michiduta> :D
[23:13] <nightwlkr> that's what i like in this community.. every1 weather novice or pro helps 1 another
[23:13] <Guest83333> alguien entiende espanñol
[23:14] <Michiduta> I Lo sentimos no saben español.
[23:14] <Guest83333> y tu si
[23:14] <Michiduta> Hope i din't write some bullshit
[23:14] <nightwlkr> when i'm bored i come here..and try assisting ppl with their questions searching google :P
[23:15] <Michiduta> Yo uso un traductor en línea para escribir estas a usted.
[23:15] <Guest83333> a ok
[23:15] <salpta> Need a pro-tip, is there a way to make something akin to a hardlink to a directory across devices yet?  (I have an app that isn't liking a symbolic link)
[23:16] <Michiduta> Usted puede hablar en español y voy a tratar de responder si puedo.
[23:16] <Michiduta> :)
[23:16] <ibou> what does "brw-rw-rw-+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-11-11 00:30 /dev/sr0" mean ?
[23:16] <carpii> salpta, what do you mean ?
[23:16] <Guest83333> ok esta bien
[23:17] <Guest83333> de donde son ustedes
[23:17] <nightwlkr> ibou: that's identifying ur driver for ur cdrom
[23:17] <nightwlkr> /dev/sr0 is ur cdrom device
[23:17] <ibou> nightwlkr: brw-rw-rw--+1 ??
[23:18] <Michiduta> Yo soy de Sibiu, Rumanía.
[23:18] <nightwlkr> i donno what b stands for rw is read write
[23:19] <Michiduta> ¿Y tú?
[23:19] <jpedroza> Hi, I installed wicd and love it, but it doesn't seem to support broadband cards. Is that correct? Can someone recommend a replacement that works with wpa2 and broadband cards?
[23:19] <ibou> nightwlkr: so those are the prermissions for my cdrom device... how about root cdrom 11 ?
[23:19] <salpta> I have an app that we use on both sides of a dual-boot.  sda is windows and sdb is kubuntu.  I'd like the database to be common to both but it doesnt like going across the symbolic link to the windows partition.  I was hoping there was a way to force a hardlink to the database on the windows disk.
[23:20] <Guest83333> caracas venezuela
[23:20] <nightwlkr> root is the root user..like master admin :)
[23:20] <Michiduta> salpta first of all you have to keep your windows driver mounted at all times
[23:20] <nightwlkr> cdrom 11 no idea
[23:20] <Michiduta> not driver, disk
[23:20] <Michiduta> Sorry
[23:21] <salpta> =) I figured that.
[23:21] <ibou> nightwlkr: cdrom is a group i think
[23:21] <Michiduta> I believe that you need to somehow mount it at the same time as the system is booting
[23:21] <Michiduta> Just a thought
[23:21] <Michiduta> :P
[23:21] <nightwlkr> yes
[23:22] <ibou> nightwlkr: id like to move "root" to "user" for the permissiions of my cdrom. Do you know how ?
[23:22] <nightwlkr> but what's 11? :P
[23:22] <nightwlkr> u don't have to
[23:22] <Michiduta> cdrom is a group and the actual cdrom drive starts from cdrom0
[23:22] <nightwlkr> root is for the main user who installed the driver..every device installed has root beside it
[23:23] <dylan_> does anyone know what command to type in so that my resolv.conf file is not set back to default when i restart
[23:23] <salpta> Oh, it's already mounting with boot (through fstab)  but last time I was playing with linux it was impossible to create a hardlink to another device, or to a folder.  I was hoping that had changed?
[23:23] <ibou> nightwlkr: i dont how to but i have a permission problem with k3b which can't write so id like to try to move root to "ibou"
[23:24] <ibou> how = have
[23:24] <Michiduta> Oh ok salpta sorry i don't know that much about linux
[23:24] <nightwlkr> weird never had such issues with k3b
[23:25] <salpta> Well, thanks for trying, any help is good help.  Is there anyone else in the room that may know if the folder/device restrictions on hardlinks still stand?
[23:25] <Michiduta> Guest83333 puede utilizar / nick nick para cambiar su apodo a otra cosa.
[23:26] <ibou> nightwlkr: known issue : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit/+bug/149076
[23:26] <ibou> anyway how to move root to ibou ...
[23:26] <jpedroza> Can anyone tell me which network manager gnome uses?
[23:27] <Pici> network-manager
[23:27] <ibou> jpedroza: but you can get wicd if you don't like this one
[23:27] <nightwlkr> ibou: can u c the cdrom drive inside k3b?
[23:27] <ibou> nightwlkr: yes
[23:27] <nightwlkr> maybe ur drive is not identified there
[23:27] <ibou> nightwlkr: i can see it
[23:27] <nightwlkr> ok here's what u should try
[23:28] <nightwlkr> settings configure k3b
[23:28] <ibou> k3Bsetup ?
[23:28] <nightwlkr> no run k3b
[23:28] <slow-motion> n8
[23:28] <nightwlkr> go to settings and the configure k3b
[23:28] <ibou> ok
[23:29] <nightwlkr> devices
[23:29] <ibou> ok
[23:29] <nightwlkr> there is read only devices and write device?
[23:29] <nightwlkr> is there anything there?
[23:29] <jpedroza> ibou: wicd doesn't support broadband wireless cards
[23:30] <ibou> nightwlkr: no read only.  Didnt know you couldnt use wicd with broadband wirteless cards...
[23:31] <nightwlkr> ibou: then it shouldn't have any issues if it's there
[23:32] <ibou> but there is issue. And a known one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit/+bug/149076
[23:32] <Shaxor> Hay There, Okay strate to the point, I have been trying to get Banshee to work, and some one told me i have to install gstreamer, How do i go about installing  Gstreamer on Kubuntu 9.10, I tried using apt-get but i get nothing, is there a better way?
[23:32] <ibou> one of the man who posted here was able to try after changing "root" to "user" in the permisssions of sr0
[23:33] <ibou> nightwlkr: but i dont know how
[23:33] <Michiduta> use kpackagekit
[23:33] <ibou> nightwlkr: mean was able to burn
[23:34] <Shaxor> I did Michiduta but theres alot of them, And i don't know witch one or ones to install
[23:36] <Michiduta> in filter apply development-> only end-user files
[23:36] <Michiduta> and search fro gstreamer again
[23:36] <Michiduta> for*
[23:36] <nightwlkr> ibou: why don't u try changing ur user to group root
[23:36] <nightwlkr> wouldn't that also fix the problem?
[23:37] <Michiduta> the one before last should be the one you need
[23:37] <Michiduta> gstreamer0.10-packagekit
[23:38] <Michiduta> it should select any additional packages required when you install it
[23:38] <Michiduta> tell me if all goes well Shaxor
[23:38] <Shaxor> OKay thank you Michiduta
[23:39] <nightwlkr> ibou: try this.. go to kusermanager and on groups there is root... add ur user there
[23:39] <Michiduta> You're welcome
[23:42] <nightwlkr> ibou: u still there?
[23:44] <ibou> nightwlkr: yes i tryed your nice idea... but didnt work :(
[23:45] <salpta> nightwlkr: This may be a dumb question, but ya'll verified that cdrom0 was mounted with "udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8" et.al?
[23:46] <nightwlkr> well i didn't get that
[23:47] <Shaxor> Okay i guess that person was wrong
[23:47] <Shaxor> It didn't work
[23:47] <Shaxor> Banshee still doesn't work
[23:47] <Michiduta> :(
[23:48] <Shaxor> or do i have to configure gstreamer
[23:48] <Shaxor> xD im not talking about you Michiduta
[23:48] <Shaxor> Some one said i had to install gstreamer for banshee to work
[23:48] <Shaxor> but it didn't
[23:48] <Michiduta> Oh
[23:48] <salpta> Was it mounted as a writable drive.
[23:48] <Michiduta> Ok
[23:48] <ibou> salpta: how to check that ?
[23:49] <ibou> fstab
[23:49] <salpta> it should be in your fstab normally, $kate /etc/fstab
[23:50] <ibou>  udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8
[23:50] <Michiduta> when you run banshee isn't there a popup or some sort of notifier announcing you what it needs or any error message...
[23:50] <Shaxor> nope nothing
[23:50] <Michiduta> What doesn't work at it?
[23:50] <ibou> but i dont see any ".al"
[23:50] <Shaxor> when i try to play a song a red x pops up on the left side of the name
[23:50] <salpta> et.al:  latin, "And all" (well basically anyway)
[23:51] <ibou> i have only  udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8
[23:52] <salpta> then it mounted right.
[23:52] <Shaxor> Okay never mind Michiduta O.o it just started playing the song out of the blue
[23:52] <Michiduta> ...
[23:52] <ibou> salpta: thks anyway
[23:52] <Michiduta> Oh well if it works it works
[23:52] <ibou> nightwlkr: thanks
[23:52] <Michiduta> :D
[23:52] <Shaxor> xD! thanks for all your help
[23:52] <Michiduta> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/355323
[23:52] <nightwlkr> ibou: it worked?
[23:53] <Michiduta> Shaxor in that link it says about a certain bug within banshee and that it might require gstreamer but a different type of gstreamer based on what type of audio system you use
[23:54] <Michiduta> But if it works then you don't need to tinker with it anymore
[23:54] <Michiduta> :P
[23:55] <Shaxor> xD oh no more tinkering for me
[23:55] <Shaxor> as long as it works Im good
[23:58] <ibou> nightwlkr: no :s
[23:58] <nightwlkr> sorry ibou..
[23:58] <nightwlkr> but i guess u can fix that with kuser manager
[23:59] <nightwlkr> u have to make ur user root somehow :P
[23:59] <nightwlkr> or wait
[23:59] <nightwlkr> try this no idea if it will work though
[23:59] <nightwlkr> ibou: try sudo k3b in a terminal