[13:26] <Ardonel> You guys have an awesome week. We are loading our gear in the truck for a week of scout camp. I will be back Saturday.


[02:00] <pleia2> somehow a lot of people have the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>email address and keep sending emails to it for "Joe Casad"
[02:00] <jose> wut
[02:00] <pleia2> I wish I knew who that was, and it's odd to keep being called Joe :)
[02:01] <pleia2> jose: this is the address that goes to the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>account if you want to look
[02:01] <pleia2> I think somehow he got into Canonical's database as the news team guy, but I have no idea how
[02:01] <jose> welp, I don't have access to that account, but I can investigate for sure
[02:01] <pleia2> no need to investigate :)
[02:02] <pleia2> I was just making a comment, I'm already working with them to correct their database
[02:02] <jose> oh cool
[02:03] <pleia2> and you probably should have access to this account, but I think akgraner and nhandler do too
[02:03] <pleia2> no bandwidth right now to share credentials though, brain is tired
[02:06] <jose> no worries, we can work on that later :)
[02:26] <nhandler> pleia2: I can add jose to the forward list if you want
[02:26] <nhandler> jose: What email address should the mail go to?
[02:27] <jose> nhandler: ohai, jose at u bee u n tee u dot com sounds good
[02:27] <pleia2> I wouldn't recommend forwarding to ubuntu addresses
[02:27] <pleia2> gmail forwards are not so good anyway, when you add an additional forward into the mix it gets much worse
[02:28] <pleia2> I log into the account to be sure I get all my emails as it is
[02:28] <pleia2> (I have it on thunderbird on my desktop)
[02:28] <jose> oh np then, don't
[02:28] <pleia2> might just want to have it forward to a real address :)
[02:28] <jose> I'll cancel it, but thanks anyways nhandler!
[02:29] <nhandler> Ok. I apparantly have it delegated to my regular gmail account so I can switch to it easily (plus I have forwarding). I probably have the password somewhere though (just not at work).
[02:29] <nhandler> jose: I already canceled it
[02:29] <jose> nhandler: jose at [redacted] dot ninja
[02:30] <pleia2> jose: it's very odd to me that you're ofuscating so much, as if your email addresses aren't already all over the internet ;)
[02:30] <jose> lol
[02:30] <nhandler> jose: I don't think I actually have that address (or gmail isn't showing it with a quick search)
[02:30] <jose> that is my real address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:31] <jose> hehehe
[02:31] <nhandler> lol, confirm it
[02:32] <jose> all set, didn't believe me? :P
[02:34] <nhandler> jose: Ok, you should get mail forwarded to you now.
[02:34] <jose> cool, thanks! :)
[02:34] <pleia2> jose: administrative-wise, if you do reply to anything personally, please make sure you Cc: the editor address too
[02:34] <jose> pleia2: sounds good, thanks for the heads up
[02:35] <jose> I'm really bad at replying all
[02:35] <pleia2> even that gets goofy sometimes if you use your @ubuntu address, I replied to one this afternoon and it never showed up in gmail x_x
[02:35] <pleia2> jose: you can also communicate with me here if you reply to something, just don't want both of us replying and looking all disorganized
[02:36] <jose> definitely, will do!
[23:49] <piercedwater> hello
[23:49] <pleia2> hi piercedwater
[23:49] <piercedwater> i am interested in participating in some summary writing!
[23:49] <pleia2> wonderful :)
[23:49] <piercedwater> :)
[23:49] <piercedwater> love th os
[23:50] <piercedwater> thought it would be good to give back
[23:50] <pleia2> piercedwater: would you liked to be emailed when the document is ready for summaries each week?
[23:50] <piercedwater> sure<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:50] <pleia2> I'm prepping it now, so it should just be a few minutes until today's is ready
[23:50] <piercedwater> ok, great
[23:50] <piercedwater> ill read the rest of the docs on how it works and what not
[23:51] <piercedwater> mind if i hang in here
[23:51] <pleia2> please do!
[23:51] <piercedwater> good deal
[23:55]  * pleia2 sends out email
[23:55] <pleia2> newsletter is off to summary writers


[04:02] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m]: Whats the grub bug? Like running out of memory?
[04:03] <ahoneybun[m]> Yep
[04:03] <ahoneybun[m]> It's not even fixed in 23.04 yet.


[06:07] <RyuKurisu[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <HMollerCl> but anyon"> Where are those po files at?  I might be able to add Dutch
[06:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] jobgenerator just failed after succeeding: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/jobgenerator/881/
 /names
 @RyuKurisu in this repo https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-update-notifier/repository/master/
[12:39] <RyuKurisu[m]> Hmm, if nobody will disagree with me then I (or anyone else who has time) should upload the Spanish po file and rename it to es_ES or something, because it might be that their might be different wording for different regions.  E.g. I speak Dutch but the southern neighbours speak Flemish, but both would start with nl.  But mine would be nl_NL and Flemish would be nl_BE if I remember correctly.
[12:39] <RyuKurisu[m]> Ping wxl
 since this is very simple, wordings shouldn't vary, at least not much. I believe it's prety neutral the spanish that I use (I'm native spanish speaker from Chile), @N0um3n0 what do you think? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <RyuKurisu[m]> Hmm, if nobody will disagree with me then I (or anyone else who has time) should upload the Spanish po file and rename it to es_ES or something, because it might be that their might be different wordin
 Regarding common words, it is true that the two are practically the same, then if they differ in the most used words in each country and other topics ... (re @HMollerCl: since this is very simple, wordings shouldn't vary, at least not much. I believe it's prety neutral the spanish that I use (I'm native spanish speaker from Chile), @N0um3n0 what do you think?)
 For technical words, I think one is as good as the other
[15:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> Umm. Packages are still in proposed? Thought they would land in today's iso.
[16:02] <kc2bez[m]> The_LoudSpeaker: check excuses https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[16:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> Oh. So we need to update other packages that depend on libfm-qt
[16:05] <The_LoudSpeaker> Image viewer, file manager etc.
 How could make opensnitch support runit init distros?
 Not too sure, you would have to ask the opensnitch or runit developers. We use systemd in Lubuntu. (re @lwbdinla: How could make opensnitch support runit init distros?)
 Excuse me, do you know could we change the systemd to other init directly in Lubuntu? (re @kc2bez: Not too sure, you would have to ask the opensnitch or runit developers. We use systemd in Lubuntu.)
 No, not too sure how to do that either. We follow Ubuntu on that since we are an official flavor. (re @lwbdinla: Excuse me, do you know could we change the systemd to other init directly in Lubuntu?)
[17:50] <RyuKurisu[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <N0um3n0> Regarding c"> My consideration is that we are just starting the translation, and I fear it will later turn into a situation of 'Why didn't we do this when we started?'
[17:51] <RyuKurisu[m]> And it is a rather trivial change IMHO
 OK, thank you. (re @kc2bez: No, not too sure how to do that either. We follow Ubuntu on that since we are an official flavor.)


[11:16] <njin> hallo, I miss the icon of the workspace switcher, there's a way to restore it ?
[11:22] <njin> or it is a work in progress?
[11:56] <MCR1> smspillaz: Hi :) I've fixed compilation of the Cube Gears plugin \o/ : https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/compiz/compiz.merge-fix1020822-gears-plugin-does-not-build-anymore/+merge/146285
[11:59] <MCR1> smspillaz: Also I got Freewins to compile and work without any crashes for the first time. Seems to be that a NULL passed to an integer caused the crashes, this is now fixed - It still is not perfect, but already awesome - if you wanna try it (WIP): https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/compiz/compiz0.9.9.merge-plugin-freewins/+merge/146291
[12:00] <MCR1> Mirv: Hi. Are you here ?
[12:02] <MCR1> smspillaz: Also I would like to ask you on your opinion on bug 1101198. Please comment how you would like that fixed...


[07:24] <smartboyhw_> Good afternoon Noskcaj
[07:38] <Noskcaj> hey smartboyhw_
[14:25] <smartboyhw> Hello SergioMeneses
[14:25] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, morning!
[14:29] <SergioMeneses> why id everybody in oakland?
[14:29] <SergioMeneses> *is
[14:30] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: I don't know. I did remember that the original UDS-S (which is superseded by vUDS-1305) is planned to held in Oakland
[14:32] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: Now I thought of it, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucyReleaseSchedule there is a Canonical Client Sprint this week
[14:33] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I see, thanks
[14:37] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, look http://sergiomeneses.tumblr.com/post/49040850932/omg-suse-attacks
[14:37] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: ROFL


[12:29] <TheSheep> rijo: maybe you need to configure your router and add the mac of your laptop to it, to allow connecting, or increase the limit on the number of computers that can connect at a time?
[12:29] <DaBeowulf> Wow I'm puzzled. I downloaded the Linux www.adom.de version unpacked it and when I want to execute the program it says:
[12:30] <DaBeowulf> Huh did that paste thing work?
[12:30] <DaBeowulf> Anyway here: Failed to execute child process "/home/ubuntu/Desktop/adom/adom" (No such file or directory).
[12:31] <DaBeowulf> But what did I try to execute then?
[12:31] <TheSheep> DaBeowulf: I think that adom is in the repositories
[12:32] <TheSheep> !info adom
[12:32] <ubotu> Package adom does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:32] <TheSheep> :/
[12:32] <TheSheep> or not
[12:32] <DaBeowulf> What would that mean 'in the repositories'?
[12:32] <DaBeowulf> Anyway why does it tell me it's not there when I try to execute it? O_o
[12:34] <TheSheep> DaBeowulf: how did you run it?
[12:34] <TheSheep> (try to run)
[12:34] <DaBeowulf> double click or right click -> execute
[12:35] <DaBeowulf> Is it because I only booted the OS from the CD?
[12:35] <TheSheep> DaBeowulf: no, open a terminal and try to run it from there
[12:35] <TheSheep> DaBeowulf: you see, adom i s text-mode game, it needs a terminal to run
[12:36] <TheSheep> (although the error message is weird)
[12:36] <DaBeowulf> what is the command? when I type adom it says command not found although dir shows it
[12:36] <DaBeowulf> among the readmes and stuff
[12:37] <TheSheep> cd Desktop/adom
[12:37] <TheSheep> and then
[12:37] <TheSheep> ./adom
[12:38] <DaBeowulf> "No such file or directory
[12:40] <StOoOo> TheSheep: cheers. i found gnash can play (very) simple flash stuff and they're working on youtube support - sudo aptitude install mozilla-plugin-gnash :)
[12:43] <TheSheep> DaBeowulf: fun
[12:43] <TheSheep> DaBeowulf: does 'ls' show it?
[12:44] <DaBeowulf> it does in green
[12:44] <DaBeowulf> as does dir (just not in green) like I said.
[12:45] <DaBeowulf> I don't think that's fun, though. :|
[12:45] <DaBeowulf> Weird maybe.
[12:46] <DaBeowulf> Hmm, I've thrown the mount point to my Win HDD onto the desktop as well. Maybe it doesn't like that.
[12:49] <snyft> yo
[12:49] <snyft> anyone that can tell what bootable flag does?
[12:51] <DaBeowulf> I'll try a fresh boot and not making my HDD accessable..
[12:53] <TheSheep> snyft: on old computers allows to boot from that partition
[12:57] <snyft> ok
[12:57] <snyft> i chose yes seemed like a safe bet :d
[12:58] <xubuntu-live-use> hello, i'm curious, is there a way to get icons to preview the file like gnome does in ubuntu?
[12:58] <xubuntu-live-use> for instance, if the file is a video or a picture, it will be a slightly large icon with a snapshot/preview of the file.
[12:58] <TheSheep> xubuntu-live-use: yes, you just need the thumbnailer for that particular kind of files installed
[12:59] <TheSheep> xubuntu-live-use: there is a thumbnailer for images installed by default
[12:59] <TheSheep> xubuntu-live-use: the thumbnailer for movies is included in the totem package
[01:00] <xubuntu-live-use> so, i need  to specify that these thumbnailer apps run at startup?
[01:00] <Catoptromancy> mine work by default
[01:00] <Catoptromancy> should be something in preferences or view
[01:00] <TheSheep> xubuntu-live-use: no, you just need to have them installed
[01:01] <TheSheep> xubuntu-live-use: you don't have thumbnails for images?
[01:02] <xubuntu-live-use> TheSheep: nope, i've put some movies and pics on the desktop to test this.
[01:02] <xubuntu-live-use> perhaps i'm using an outdated xubuntu live cd?
[01:02] <TheSheep> I think that pictures worked always
[01:03] <TheSheep> maybe not on the desktop
[01:03] <hydan> TheSheep: doesn't work in the File Manager either.
[01:03] <hydan> what app should i install?
[01:04] <hydan> xzgv?
[01:04] <TheSheep> hydan: the picture thumbnailer should be installed together with thunar
[01:06] <hydan> i'm using the latest xubuntu, v. 7.04
[01:07] <hydan> i'm sorry if i'm annoying.
[01:07] <hydan> i'm trying not to be.
[01:11] <hydan> what settings menu would allow me to specify if i want thumbnails?
[01:13] <TheSheep> hydan: open the file manager, go to edit->preferences
[01:13] <TheSheep> hydan: there should be a checkbox next to 'show thumbnails'
[01:13] <hydan> it's checked to show them
[01:14] <TheSheep> hydan: what kind of images are these?
[01:14] <hydan> .jpg and an ogg theora video
[01:15] <TheSheep> :/
[01:15] <TheSheep> should work
[01:15] <hydan> hmm, oh well.
[01:15] <hydan> thanks. i won't ask again, unless i install ;)
[01:17] <hydan> h/e, if i've already got a copy of ubuntu, i suppose i could simply install xubunt-desktop.
[01:19] <snyft> how do you configurate grub?
[01:20] <snyft> because when i start my computer i get "error cant find operating system" but when i boot from xubuntu and choose boot from first hard drive i can get to grub
[01:23] <xubuntu-live-use> to whomever: why is xfce considered faster than gnome?
[01:23] <spaceraver>  hmm, i have hosed my system (again)
[01:23] <crimsun> xubuntu-live-use: it has a smaller in-memory and cpu-time footprint by default.
[01:24] <spaceraver> think it's the NTFS-3G drivers.. but how do i get to the cli and remove it??
[01:27] <xubuntu-live-use> well, thanks for the help today. bbl :)
[01:27] <xubuntu-live-use> /exit
[01:53] <Jester45>  !seen vidd_laptop
[02:06] <snyft> nobody that can help with my problem?
[02:10] <Jester45> whats your problem
[02:13] <snyft> ok so i got this error after installing xubuntu. i disabled the harddrive to boot from so i could boot up the xubuntu install cd. then when it finished i added it again. and now i get "error cant find operating system" but if i boot with the cd and choose boot from first hd i get to grub and can choose what to boot.
[02:13] <Jester45> looks like somthing got erased on the harddrive
[02:14] <snyft> it cant be the bootorder in grub?
[02:14] <snyft> or something like that.
[02:14] <snyft> i even tried reformating and reinstall xubuntu
[02:14] <snyft> dident help
[02:14] <Jester45> hummm...
[02:15] <snyft> can it be because i enabled bootflag? :s
[02:15] <snyft> it was set to no by default but i changed it to yes.
[02:15] <Jester45> maybe try in #ubuntu this doesnt seem to be xubuntu spefic
[02:15] <snyft> ok
[02:15] <Jester45> well you would need to be bootable to boot
[02:18] <snyft> bah.
[02:20] <jgamio> Somebody know what is the yeld
[02:36] <dchagwood> Does anyone here know of a PS/2 keyboard bug?  I've tried 2 different one and I get the same problem.  No keyboard input after the kernel starts.
[03:05] <Jester45> hey vidd
[03:05] <Jester45> im done with my site
[03:05] <vidd> cool
[03:05] <Jester45> unless i think of somthing to add but other than that its compelete
[03:06] <vidd> this is not the room to talk about it
[03:06] <Jester45> i guess not
[03:06] <kalikiana> Anyone here familiar with perl? Where can I set module paths?
[03:22] <tuppa> hrm
[03:22] <tuppa> perhaps my search-fu failed me
[03:22] <tuppa> but how does one drive a WPA wifi connection with xubuntu?
[03:22] <tuppa> i.e. is there a network-manager subtitute for xubuntu?
[03:41] <Pumpernickel> tuppa: wifi-radar, although it's not installed by default.
[03:43] <snt> can somebody help me with grub?
[03:43] <Pumpernickel> !anyone
[03:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:44] <snt> well i want to see all hds or something like that in grub
[03:44] <kalikiana_> snt, It has tab completion, you could try typing '/dev/' and pressing tab.
[03:45] <snt> oh ok
[03:46] <snt> it dident work
[03:46] <snt> it just repeats /dev/
[03:47] <kalikiana_> Hm.. and if you type just '/dev'?
[03:47] <snt> dident work either
[03:48] <kalikiana_> I'm sorry, I don't know any better then.
[03:49] <snt> :(
[03:50] <Jester45> try /dev/h<tab>
[03:55] <R[a] ndom> or just ls /dev/sd*
[04:36] <mboso_> I set my default XTerm font size to large in my Xdefaults file. when I use Alt+2 to launch an xterm it works, but when I use a keyboard shortcut I created (alt+f1) it still uses the old size. How can I make the change apply to the keyboard short cut as well?
[04:41] <h3ath> i need some help getting aurora gtk theme installed.
[04:42] <h3ath> at the end of configuring i get this message:  configure: error: "GTK+-2.10 is required to compile aurora"
[04:43] <h3ath> and i do believe i have all the gtk packages.
[04:51] <Pumpernickel> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[04:51] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.11-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2529 kB, installed size 9120 kB
[04:57] <Jester45> anyone here know of a linux compatible portable media player?
[05:02] <vidd> Jester45, http://tuxmobil.org
[05:52] <lunixman> xubuntu rocks!
[06:10] <siimo> hi anyone using gutsy gibbon.. notice the xfce panel launchers icons are weirdly getting zoomed in gutsy
[06:12] <Pumpernickel> Gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1.  This sounds more like a bug, though, which should be filed in launchpad.
[06:12] <Jester45> gusty isnt alpha yet dont expect to many things to work perfectly
[06:12] <siimo> yeah not complaining...
[06:12] <Jester45> Pumpernickel: is it aplha yet?
[06:13] <siimo> Pumpernickel: what is interesting that the icons looks fine if your panel width is fat but if i make it really small like 25 then instad of icons reducing size they dont fit inside and their edges disappear
[06:21] <Pumpernickel> No, it's not alpha yet.  There should be a test cd image spun out by the end of this week, but that'd be the first.
[07:00] <edgarin> Hi people
[07:00] <edgarin> some people in the channel?
[07:00] <Catoptromancy> 69 people
[07:03] <edgarin> cool!
[07:03] <edgarin> I have a problem
[07:03] <edgarin> I have a laptop Dell Latitude D300XT
[07:03] <edgarin> PII 300mhz with 128mb RAM
[07:04] <edgarin> but the installation hangs
[07:04] <edgarin> you have some idea?
 I have a problem
 I have a laptop Dell Latitude D300XT
 PII 300mhz with 128mb RAM
 but the installation hangs
 you have some idea?
[07:49] <aabrahao> Hi, How can I install apache with all modules, including php?
[07:51] <cinvoke> hello? anyone in here?
[07:51] <Jester45> a few
[07:51] <cinvoke> so quiet
[07:51] <Jester45> its kinda late
[07:51] <Jester45> at least for europe
[07:51] <cinvoke> o
[07:52] <cinvoke> not sure if u can help, or where i can go for help, but i cant seem to figure out what soundcard, and driver i have/need
[07:53] <Jester45> !spreadsheets
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spreadsheets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <Jester45> :(
[07:56] <Jester45> you can try in #ubuntu its more alive
[07:58] <j1mc> cinvoke: what is the problem?
[07:59] <j1mc> aabrahao: this may help you: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[07:59] <j1mc> if that page references "gedit" you may replace it with "mousepad" for a graphical installation.
[08:00] <j1mc> err... a graphical UI text editor.
  thanks
[08:02] <j1mc> you are welcome.  it is a pretty handy basic "getting started" guide...
[08:40] <hyper__ch> hiho
[08:46] <Nikilos> Hi everyone
[08:46] <j1mc> hi Nikilos
[08:47] <Nikilos> I have been trying to install a theme on Xubuntu, but it doesn't seem to be working
[08:47] <Nikilos> Can anyone help me?
[08:47] <j1mc> hmmm... ok.
[08:47] <j1mc> i'll try
[08:47] <j1mc> where are you trying to install the theme?  what folder?
[08:48] <Nikilos> Well, I've tried /usr/shared/themes and /home/%user%/.themes
[08:48] <Nikilos> Both don't work
[08:49] <j1mc> ok.  how did you "unpack" the theme files, did you use ... i think it's called xarchiver?
[08:49] <j1mc> ... you're trying to add the files to the right folders, though.
[08:49] <Nikilos> Yes, I used Xarchiver
[08:49] <j1mc> actually, i think it's /usr/share/themes... (not /usr/share...)
[08:49] <j1mc> i mean, not /usr/shareD
[08:49] <j1mc> but anyway... :)
[08:50] <j1mc> one thing to check is that you mark the check box that says to use the full path (when you unpack the file)
[08:50] <hyper__ch> j1mc: where can you download the ubuntu packages from?
[08:50] <j1mc> hyper__ch: which ubuntu packages?
[08:50] <hyper__ch> j1mc: the ones you can install through apt
[08:51] <j1mc> hyper__ch: you mean, where does ubuntu store the .deb files that you download through apt?
[08:52] <hyper__ch> j1mc: no, where I can download the .deb files from the ubuntu repos
[08:52] <j1mc> hyper__ch: do you want to download all of them, or just a specific one or two?
[08:52] <j1mc> Nikilos: did my comment help?
[08:52] <hyper__ch> j1mc: I just want to know where they can be downloaded from :)
[08:53] <j1mc> i know how you can DL individual packages... (hold on a sec... i'll give an example)
[08:54] <j1mc> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search
[08:54] <j1mc> you can search for packages there
[08:54] <hyper__ch> j1mc: all I know is a web adress for a browser to point to that can be used to download the .deb packages
[08:55] <j1mc> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/amd64/xfce4-panel/4.4.1-1ubuntu1
[08:56] <j1mc> that's where you could get the .deb for xfce4-panel
[08:56] <Nikilos> I'd like to install this theme here: http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/etude-4?content=54509 but failed to do so
[08:58] <hyper__ch> j1mc: found now this:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/  that's simpler to use
[08:58] <j1mc> hyper__ch: that should let you see the packages, but i don't think it will let you install them.
[08:59] <j1mc> or download them... not from there, anyway.
[08:59] <hyper__ch> j1mc: it does.... it finally lists the mirrors and from there you can then download the .debs
[08:59] <j1mc> Nikilos: when you open up xarchiver, do you see two check boxes along the lower right-hand side?
[08:59] <j1mc> hyper__ch: oh, cool.  :)
[09:00] <Nikilos> Let me check...
[09:00] <hyper__ch> it looks exactely the same as the package thingy for debian :)
[09:00] <Nikilos> No, I don't see two check boxes
[09:00] <j1mc> Nikilos: give me a moment...
[09:02] <hyper__ch> since I enabled uPnP in KTorrent it runs really neatly :)
[09:02] <j1mc> Nikilos: ok... when you select the tar.bz2 file in xarchiver... and then go to extract it, you should see the check boxes
[09:03] <j1mc> does one of the check boxes say, "recreate folders" or "use full path" or something similar?
[09:03] <Nikilos> "Extract Here" or "Extract To"?
[09:03] <j1mc> try Extract To
[09:04] <Nikilos> It says "Files to Extract" and the options are "All" and "Only Selected"
[09:04] <j1mc> ok, select all...
[09:04] <j1mc> then what happens
[09:05] <Nikilos> Well, it extracts all the files to a specified location
[09:06] <j1mc> when you open up that extracted folder, what's inside of it
[09:06] <Nikilos> Another folder called etude-4.6
[09:07] <j1mc> and what's inside of that folder?
[09:07] <Nikilos> Another folder called xfwm4
[09:07] <j1mc> ok... cool.
[09:08] <j1mc> so what is the name of the folder that you pasted into your /usr/share/themes folder?
[09:08] <Nikilos> I actually deleted that folder a bit ago
[09:08] <Nikilos> So I don't remember
[09:09] <j1mc> ok, well... try pasting the e-tude... folder into the appropriate location.
[09:09] <Nikilos> Which is /usr/share/themes, correct?
[09:09] <j1mc> yes
[09:10] <Nikilos> And do I run User Interface Settings now?
[09:10] <j1mc> or you should be able to just go to your home directory and type "mkdir .themes"
[09:10] <j1mc> and install the folder there.
[09:10] <Nikilos> Do I type that in Terminal?
[09:10] <j1mc> yes
[09:13] <Nikilos> Ok, I have the folder in .themes now
[09:13] <j1mc> ok.  is it in your user interface chooser option list?
[09:13] <Nikilos> Should the folder order be like this?  /.themes/etude-4.6/xfwm4?
[09:14] <j1mc> yeah, i think so
[09:14] <Nikilos> Because it's not showing up in the list
[09:15] <j1mc> hmmmm....
[09:18] <Nikilos> Is there any reason for it not to show up?
[09:20] <j1mc> Nikilos: can you check the XFCE Window Manager settings (not User Interface Settings).
[09:20] <Nikilos> Sure
[09:20] <Nikilos> Ok, it's up
[09:20] <j1mc> w00t!
[09:20] <j1mc> it was in the window manager settings?
[09:21] <Nikilos> Er, it's in the Manager Settings, yes
[09:21] <Nikilos> OH
[09:21] <Nikilos> There we go
[09:21] <j1mc> :D
[09:21] <Nikilos> Thank you so much!
[09:21] <j1mc> yw!
[09:21] <j1mc> btw, i found the answer here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=449229
[09:21] <Nikilos> Thanks again!
[09:22] <j1mc> it is difficult for me to help with xubuntu when i'm running gnome on top of debian on my dsktop, so i think i need to put xubuntu on it.  :)
[09:22] <Nikilos> Indeed
[09:22] <j1mc> take care.
[09:22] <j1mc> i'm going to sleep
[09:22] <hyper__ch> j1mc: you run gnome????????? ;)
[09:22] <hyper__ch> veto
[09:22] <j1mc> hyper__ch: only because i wanted better samba support
[09:22] <j1mc> and i'm going to wipe it in the next few days
[09:23] <hyper__ch> ok :)
[09:23] <hyper__ch> how is deb 4.0?
[09:23] <j1mc> it's been good.
[09:23] <j1mc> i'm actually running "lenny" which is the new name for debian testing.
[09:24] <j1mc> it's pretty much the same as etch right now, though.
[09:24] <hyper__ch> is it usable as desktop-os?
[09:24] <j1mc> nothing too drastially different.
[09:24] <j1mc> i would say yes.  definitely.
[09:24] <hyper__ch> ok... I still tend to think debian is great for servers and ubuntu great for desktops :)
[09:25] <j1mc> yeah, ubuntu has a slight edge on the desktop, but the latest debians still have a lot going for them on the desktop.
[09:25] <hyper__ch> goodnight then :)
[09:26] <j1mc> good night!
[11:25] <hyper_ch> lol:   "defenestration" -->  http://ubuntuforums.org/g/images/167727/1_Defenestration.GIF
[11:32] <Raging_Hog> hehehe
[11:36] <Catoptromancy> heh
[11:36] <Catoptromancy> = (
[11:36] <Catoptromancy> I had pure ubuntu for a month and had to dualboot
[11:50] <TehRealNexGen> hi does anyone know which file is used to edit shortcuts?
[11:50] <TehRealNexGen> keyboard shortcuts
[11:55] <hyper_ch> TehRealNexGen: applicatiosn --> settings --> keyboard settings :) what do you need to edit the file for?
[11:55] <TehRealNexGen> to use button 4 on my mouse to switch to next workspace
[11:55] <TehRealNexGen> and alt
[11:57] <TehRealNexGen> button 4 and 5 is my scroll wheel btw
[12:03] <hyper_ch> TehRealNexGen: then I guess it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:07] <hyper_ch> I guess I'm wrong on that
[12:22] <hyper_ch> !record
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <hyper_ch> !screencast
[12:23] <ubotu> Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[12:23] <rimmington> !xubuntu-system-tools
[12:23] <rimmington> !k3b
[12:23] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[01:28] <SomeKindOfMonste> !html
[01:28] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[01:28] <SomeKindOfMonste> none of them is in xunbuntu
[01:31] <grazie> SomeKindOfMonste: All them can be installed. For example
[01:31] <grazie> !info nvu
[01:31] <ubotu> Package nvu does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:31] <grazie> !info bluefish
[01:31] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-1 (feisty), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[01:39] <totalwormage> (is the universe repo enabled?)
[01:53] <thirdy_> wats the command to reg my nick?
[01:53] <thirdy_> grazie,
[01:58] <Merchelo> /msg nickserv register <password>
[02:02] <hyper_ch> !install
[02:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:17] <thirdy_> grazie: check this out, http://main.thirdy.freehostia.com/Thirdy%20likes%20linux.html
[02:17] <thirdy_> hyper_ch: http://main.thirdy.freehostia.com/Thirdy%20likes%20linux.html
[02:17] <thirdy_> Merchelo: http://main.thirdy.freehostia.com/Thirdy%20likes%20linux.html
[02:18] <hyper_ch> not good to have spaces in a the URL
[02:18] <thirdy_> not good for browsers?
[02:18] <hyper_ch> nope
[02:19] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: why not?
[02:20] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: many reasons :)
[02:20] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: name one
[02:20] <hyper_ch> it looks ugly :)
[02:21] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: you can type normal space there too
[02:21] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: and it will work
[02:21] <hyper_ch> but then a lot of programs don't recognize it as url
[02:21] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: that's not the browser's problem
[02:22] <thirdy_> bros, wat do think bout wat I wrote?
[02:22] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: it is... when you click on it the browser doesn't have the right url
[02:32] <hyper_ch> thirdy_: why making another site for that? most of that has already been covered on countless sites and I tend to think ahving it all in one place would be much better
[02:34] <thirdy_> hyper_ch: can you tell some of those sites?
[02:34] <hyper_ch> www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:35] <hyper_ch> www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[02:35] <hyper_ch> and many other smalls...
[02:37] <hyper_ch> thirdy_: I don't want to stop you from creating one... I just want to point out that there are already huge ressources available :)
[02:37] <thirdy_> thats one of my probs
[02:37] <thirdy_> there are tooo many
[02:37] <thirdy_> and too huge
[02:38] <hyper_ch> I think ubunguguide and psychocat give a fair overview for starters
[02:38] <tripppy> is there a hardware chart/guide for ubuntu installs? like a flowchart or something?
[02:38] <thirdy_> yeah, maybe I just don't read a lot
[02:39] <thirdy_> don't like reading that much
[02:39] <thirdy_> I have a new 128mb geforce4
[02:39] <thirdy_> and ice pointer in penguin racer is still sloowwww
[02:40] <hyper_ch> tripppy: what do you mean?
[02:40] <hyper_ch> thirdy_: do you have the proprietary nvidia drivers installed?
[02:41] <tripppy> hyper_ch, well i have ALOT of hardware and i would like a guide or somehing so i can plug in some hardware specs and get a recommended ubuntu install
[02:41] <thirdy_> haven't installed anything bout drivers here in linux
[02:41] <tripppy> ie a P3600 with 128 ram and 256mb hardrive
[02:41] <hyper_ch> tripppy: I don't know what you mean... either your hardware will be recognized or it won't
[02:42] <tripppy> no more about the type of install. xubuntu , ubuntun, kubuntun, server etc...
[02:42] <hyper_ch> tripppy: and for some hardware like webcams and wifi card you try to get those running with alternate stuff... but mostly it's go or no-go
[02:42] <thirdy_> hyper_ch: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/FPS_Games
[02:42] <hyper_ch> tripppy: you can't install it on that computer... 256mb disk is too slow
[02:42] <hyper_ch> too low I mean
[02:43] <thirdy_> what should I get?
[02:43] <hyper_ch> thirdy_: how should I know?
[02:44] <tripppy> hyper_ch, same hardware but a bigger HDD? could i run xubuntu?
[02:44] <hyper_ch> with a hd of 256mb you should consider using DamnSmallLInux or featherlinux
[02:44] <thirdy_> dats my prob
[02:44] <tripppy> yeah i know...
[02:44] <hyper_ch> tripppy: yes, xubuntu would be the only one... but even 128 mb ram are quite low
[02:44] <tripppy> kk
[02:44] <thirdy_> I'll have to try it, install it
[02:45] <hyper_ch> you'd be better of using dsl or feather....
[02:45] <tripppy> yeah i know. i use DSL alot.
[02:45] <thirdy_> only to find out that my system doesn't like it
[02:45] <tripppy> well i used to
[02:45] <tripppy> i have it installed on my 128flash card.
[02:46] <tripppy> so would 512mb ram. 10gig HDD and a PIII 600mhz. run xubuntu well?
[02:46] <hyper_ch> yes, that should be fine
[02:49] <tripppy> im reading here -> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[02:49] <tripppy> mini cd... cool
[02:50] <tripppy> soooo what do these installs after downloading those suggested packages?
[02:50] <tripppy> take up in size?
[02:50] <tripppy> sorry stoned.
[02:51] <hyper_ch> tripppy: dunno
[02:51] <thirdy_> is there testmyhardware.com for linux?
[02:51] <tripppy> dam...
[02:52] <tripppy> yeha?
[02:54] <thirdy_> aside from beryl what else is "wow"?
[02:54] <tripppy> compiz
[02:55] <thirdy_> is it lighter?
[02:56] <thirdy_> I have 128vram
[02:56] <thirdy_> 1.1duron
[02:56] <thirdy_> 256ram
[02:58] <tripppy> no. its using way to much. plus im in ubuntu
[03:08] <thirdy_> so ubuntu is a plus for fat?
[03:08] <thirdy_> I min heavier for your comp
[03:11] <Ramla> xfwm's compositing is nice.
[03:11] <Ramla> settings -> window manager tweaks -> compositor tab
[03:12] <TheSheep> linux doesn't actaully have lots of "wow", it just works
[03:12] <TheSheep> beryl/compiz is an exception -- in both of these statements ;)
[03:26] <thirdy_> Only beryl and compiz is the wow?
[03:26] <thirdy_> wat else?
[03:30] <TheSheep> quoth the sheep: nothing more
[03:30] <thirdy_> Metacity
[03:30] <thirdy_> Only for GNOME?
[03:30] <thirdy_> wats for KDE?
[03:31] <TheSheep> not sure, but you can use metacity with xfce too
[03:31] <TheSheep> it's just the window manager
[03:31] <TheSheep> instead of xfwm4
[03:31] <thirdy_> OK I'm new to all these term
[03:32] <thirdy_> *terms
[03:32] <TheSheep> thirdy_: window manager is the part that is responsible for drawing and positioning the windows
[03:32] <thirdy_> TheSheep: can you give me a quick big picture of linux?
[03:32] <thirdy_> ok lets start with wat composes xubuntu?
[03:33] <thirdy_> haha, did vista imitated?
[03:34] <thirdy_> Desktop Window Manager
[03:34] <TheSheep> thirdy_: all the systems take from each other, you can't tell anymore what was invented where
[03:34] <TheSheep> thirdy_: there are lots of parts, best read the dekstop guide or some other introductory book
[03:36] <thirdy_> I wish there a distro dat gives all the linux newbie all he needs to become a linux pro
[03:36] <TheSheep> thirdy_: you won't become a linux pro by hanging to a single distro
[03:37] <TheSheep> thirdy_: one of the main points of linux is diversity
[03:38] <thirdy_> ok, so wats my window manager?
[03:39] <thirdy_> ALT+F2
[03:39] <thirdy_> then wat?
[03:39] <aabrahao> hi, How Can a fix broken packages? Via synaptic in edit fix bronken packages is not resolving
[03:39] <TheSheep> xfwm4
[03:39] <thirdy_> I'm using xubuntu, then installed kununtu-desktop
[03:39] <TheSheep> thirdy_: but if you see windows, then it's already running
[03:40] <TheSheep> aabrahao: "broken"?
[03:40] <thirdy_> so that the command to use wen I'm in the console modE?
[03:41] <TheSheep> thirdy_: no, that's a command that is used automatically when you're logging in and starting the whole graphical desktop
 yes, broken
[03:43] <TheSheep> aabrahao: broken how?
[03:43] <thirdy_> I can't run KWin
 in synaptic when I mark a package to remove, for exemple, the error is Could Not Aplly changes, fix broken packages first. Then I go to edit fix broken packages and hen appears a unable to correct dendencies
[03:50] <TheSheep> aabrahao: close synaptic, open terminal and type 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
 sill the same eror
[03:54] <thirdy_> TheSheep: window manager == edit UI?
[03:55] <thirdy_> I wanna every program to appear in my desktop
[03:56] <thirdy_> how can I do that?
[03:58] <GrueTamer> thirdy_: what do you mean? just like, desktop icons, or what
[03:59] <thirdy_> yeah, Is there an editor or something like that?
[04:00] <thirdy_> GrueTamer, with some effects
[04:00] <thirdy_> =)
[04:00] <GrueTamer> and that means...
[04:00] <GrueTamer> i remember that making icons wasnt difficult, hold on, ill launch X once i have breakfast in front of me
[04:07] <GrueTamer> thirdy__: sorry, ive been trying to figure out how to add icons in xfce (i assume youre in xfce), and i dont remember how
[04:08] <TheSheep> GrueTamer: to menu or to desktop?
[04:08] <TheSheep> or to panel...
[04:18] <thirdy__> GrueTamer, I'm using KDE
[04:18] <thirdy__> I installed kubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <GrueTamer> oh
[04:19] <thirdy__> someone got my nick
[04:19] <thirdy__> how do I get it back?
[04:19] <thirdy__> I've registered my nick
[04:20] <GrueTamer> you can log in with /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[04:21] <TheSheep> thirdy__: you never logged out, you're here with two nicks now
[04:21] <thirdy__> oh
[04:21] <thirdy__> ok
[04:22] <thirdy__> Ok so how bout autoplaying an mp3 wen you start KDE?
[04:22] <GrueTamer> theres an option for that somewhere...
[04:24] <GrueTamer> since ive installed kde for the fun of it, ill launch that now, gimme a minute
[04:26] <GrueTamer> thirdy__: in the control center, go to multimedia and sound, then system notifications
[04:26] <GrueTamer> but it might not work with mp3 files
[04:28] <thirdy__> ok, any good sound file converter?
[04:29] <thirdy__> mp3 to .ogg
[04:42] <lunixman> hello
[04:43] <lunixman> what should i type in the command prompt for ubuntu to detect my other partitions? i have other partitions in a single harddrive
[04:48] <TheSheep> !partitions
[04:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:48] <TheSheep> !fstab
[04:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:59] <grazie> lunixman: "sudo fdisk -l" is the usual way to list partitions
[05:00] <lunixman> grazie: i already tried that, but it only listed my partitions, it didnt make them accessible through my /media folder
[05:01] <grazie> lunixman: then you have to mount manually or add entries to /etc/fstab as above ^^
[05:01] <lunixman> how do i mount manually?
[05:02] <lunixman> through the command prompt
[05:02] <lunixman> last time i remember some guy gave me a command
[05:02] <lunixman> and it automatically installed my extra drive
[05:04] <Cinnander> man mount
[05:04] <grazie> lunixman: "sudo mount /dev/hdx /media/mount-dir" where hdx=partition device and mount-dir is the mount dir which you probably want to create. This will be lost on reboot
[05:06] <grazie> lunixman: note, nothing is installed. If the drive is new, is will need to be partitioned and the partition will need to be formatted before i can be mounted.
[05:06] <grazie> it can* ^^
[05:09] <grazie> lunixman: you should always unmount manually mounted devices after using them. "sudo umount /media/mount-dir"
[05:09] <lunixman> ok
[05:13] <Jester45> how can i remove the first 6 letters on a much of files
[05:13] <Jester45> bunch*
[05:25] <TheSheep> Jester45: use the bulk rename in thunar
[05:26] <TheSheep> Jester45: you mean file names, right?
[05:26] <Jester45> yea
[05:26] <TheSheep> Jester45: or the content?
[05:26] <Jester45> does that open when you select more than one file and try to rename it? becuase it just trys to rename tham all to untitled.mp3
[05:27] <TheSheep> Jester45: change the method
[05:27] <Jester45> o i think i see it
[05:27] <lunixman> hello grazie
[05:27] <lunixman> i finally mounted hda5
[05:28] <lunixman> unfortunately it has an X marked on top
[05:28] <lunixman> even as root user
[05:28] <lunixman> i cant change the options under Permissions
[05:29] <Jester45> thanks TheSheep that works perfectly
[05:37] <W8TAH> hi folks -- i installed the ubuntustudio packages, and have now found that i dont need all of whats in them -- how can i un-install the packages as a group, like they were installed?
[05:38] <vidd_laptop> sudo apt-get remove [main package name]  && sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:38] <thirdy_> is that equivalent visual studio?
[05:38] <thirdy_> in windows?
[05:40] <W8TAH> vidd_laptop, thanks
[05:46] <thirdy_> is there a function in some irc client, wer you get to set auto join channels?
[05:47] <thirdy_> I'm using xchat
[05:47] <vidd_laptop> thirdy_, yes there is....
[05:48] <vidd_laptop> go to the network list....
[05:48] <vidd_laptop> edit your default network....
[05:49] <vidd_laptop> and put in the channels to join in the following format:
[05:49] <vidd_laptop> [no space] #[chan1] ,#[chan2] ,#[chan3]
[05:50] <vidd_laptop> there are no spaces anywhere in this box
[05:51] <vidd_laptop> thirdy_, did any of that make sense?
[05:52] <W8TAH> vidd_laptop, thank you -- that solved my problem -- :)
[05:54] <thirdy_> thanx
[05:54] <thirdy_> done
[05:55] <thirdy_> vidd_laptop, is there any guide on how to start from scratch to kubuntu?
[05:56] <Jester45> thirdy_: apt-get inatll kubuntu-desktop
[05:57] <Jester45> install*
[05:57] <vidd_laptop> no...but if you want to do a complete changeover.....then sudo apt-get remove x11-common && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install [ubuntu flavor of choice] -desktop
[05:58] <Jester45> my way just adds on to xubuntu
[05:58] <thirdy_> yeah that wat I did
[05:58] <thirdy_> but I got an error
[05:58] <thirdy_> the some1 told me this
[05:58] <vidd_laptop> this will take out x11 and every scrap of gui-stuff with it, and install your flavor of choice without anything you dont need
 thirdy: do first this:   sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
 thirdy: then do reboo and then sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <thirdy_> now sometimes I just get a blank scree on boot up
[06:00] <thirdy_> *screen
[06:01] <Jester45> did you dist-upgrade into a new version or was it just a normal upgrade
[06:05] <thirdy_> dunno
[06:05] <thirdy_> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:06] <thirdy_> thats the exact command I did
[06:06] <Jester45> did you edit sources.list before that
[06:06] <thirdy_> nope, never
[06:06] <Jester45> ok
[06:06] <Jester45> upgradeing to diffrent version can cause trobles
[06:07] <thirdy_> Now I'm planning to just download kubuntu iso
[06:07] <thirdy_> kubuntu-desktop doesn't give every apt in kubuntu
[06:08] <thirdy_> I didn't have Kdevelop
[06:08] <thirdy_> after install kubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <TheSheep> thirdy_: why don't you just install the programs you need with synaptic?
[06:15] <thirdy_> TheSheep, yeah but the boot up problem is still ther
[06:15] <TheSheep> "the boot up problem"?
[06:16] <vidd_laptop> what "boot up problem" you having thirdy_ ?
[06:19] <Jester45> TheSheep: could you help me with setting up my mpd?
[06:20] <Jester45> Starting Music Player Daemon: Error reading db, fgets
[06:20] <Jester45> failed.
[06:21] <TheSheep> Jester45: what did you change?
[06:21] <Jester45> where all the files are at
[06:21] <Jester45> i will restart from scratch
[06:22] <TheSheep> you have to remember that mpd runs as a different user, it needs the rights to read the music files
[06:22] <Jester45> yea the music folder is read/write to all
[06:22] <Jester45> just to make sure
[06:23] <TheSheep> >_<
[06:24] <Jester45> ok i got a fresh .conf
[06:24] <Jester45> is the only thing i need to do is change the muisic directory and restart mpd then mpd --create-db ?
[06:25] <TheSheep> yes
[06:26] <TheSheep> actually, it should do --create-db by itself
[06:26] <Jester45> ok.. it cant open my music directory but it should be able to
[06:27] <Jester45> couldnt i just let it run as me?
[06:30] <TheSheep> Jester45: just add mpd to your group
[06:30] <TheSheep> Jester45: in /etc/group
[06:30] <TheSheep> Jester45: and make the directory group-readable
[06:31] <Jester45> in thunar i set each option to read/write
[06:32] <b52GM> hello
[06:32] <b52GM> does any one have a intel wireless card 2200BG
[06:32] <b52GM> i can not have my led wireles on
[06:36] <Jester45> TheSheep: mpd is not in /group
[06:39] <Jester45> or /etc/group
[06:43] <Jester45> ok... mpd cant open the tag_cache even though i have it running as root
[07:01] <lunixman> how do i delete a directory using mkdir?
[07:01] <lunixman> or is it another command?
[07:13] <Amon-san> what lightweight office application would i use with xubutu?
[07:14] <TheSheep> Amon-san: Abiword for word processing, gnumerica for spreadsheet
[07:14] <TheSheep> Amon-san: oarge for calendar
[07:14] <TheSheep> orage
[07:15] <Amon-san> ok, thanks
[07:23] <Jester45> lunixman: use rm -rf /path/to/directory
[07:23] <Jester45> TheSheep: if i try to run mpd as root i cant access the db
[07:24] <TheSheep> Jester45: maybe mpd drops the permissions?
[07:24] <TheSheep> Jester45: many daemons will change its user when you run them as root
[07:25] <Jester45> well the conf says if you dont give it a user it will keep root
[07:25] <Jester45> If started as root, MPD will drop root privileges and run as this user instead.  Otherwise, MPD will run as the user it was started by.  If left unspecified, MPD will not drop root privileges at all (not recommended).
[07:26] <Jester45> so i figured it would try it just to i know it works and figure out the problem after that but it says the db permission denied
[07:27] <Jester45> and i checked with top and it is running as root
[07:27] <TheSheep> Jester45: what is the path to the db in the config?
[07:28] <Jester45> /var/lib/mpd/tag_cache
[07:28] <TheSheep> Jester45: ls -ald /var/lib/mpd/tag_cache
[07:29] <Jester45> -rw-r--r-- 1 root audio 86 2007-06-03 11:23 /var/lib/mpd/tag_cache
[07:30] <TheSheep> chmod g+rw /var/lib/mpd/tag_cache
[07:31] <Jester45> ok
[07:31] <Jester45> its adding now
[07:32] <TheSheep> :)
[07:33] <Jester45> ok.... but mpc will not play anything
[07:33] <Jester45> i tried mpc next and mpc play
[07:33] <TheSheep> Jester45: checked your sound levels?
[07:33] <TheSheep> volume
[07:34] <Jester45> its not saying it playing
[07:34] <Jester45> only says
[07:34] <Jester45> ryan@ubuntu:/var/lib/mpd$ mpc play
[07:34] <Jester45> volume:  0%   repeat: off   random: off
[07:34] <TheSheep> haha, volume 0%
[07:34] <TheSheep> mpc volume +50
[07:36] <Jester45> but its not playing anything
[07:36] <Jester45> it should be saying the song name and time
[07:36] <Jester45> plus the voume doesnt do anything on my system
[07:37] <Jester45> but thats not a problem for me
[07:40] <Jester45> got to go eat
[07:58] <thirdy> how do I reduce eye candy in kubuntu, the one with slide meter
[07:58] <thirdy> KDE
[07:59] <brinsta1> hi, quick question, does xubuntu come with a webserver, if so , which one?
[08:03] <kalikiana> brinsta1, There is none preinstalled. But you can easily install e.g. apache2.
[08:04] <brinsta1> thanks kalikiana
[08:18] <Tron04> where does xubuntu store the last used resolution?
[08:21] <Deviad> Hello, I have some problems with my audio card of my macbook pro
[08:21] <Deviad> the audio is not so good
[08:21] <Deviad> it croaks
[08:27] <thirdy> any good site where I can learn how to make custom distro?
[08:33] <kalikiana> thirdy, I have 'linuxfromscratch' in my head, not sure if that is what you want...
[08:34] <thirdy> how bout rBuilder
[08:35] <GrueTamer> linuxfromscratch is what i think of\
[09:13] <Jester45>  TheSheep: ok, mpd --create-db scans all my files but sonata doesnt show any thing in the library and i think thats the problem with mpc
[09:18] <Jester45> ok i got a db now,  i dont know how
[09:37] <hyper__ch> TheSheep: what are the differences betweens ext3 and reiserfs?
[09:38] <Jester45> reiserfs v4 seems much faster
[09:43] <kalikiana> Jester45, ReiserFS *is* fast, but possibly unstable.
[09:43] <kalikiana> Many people say it's way faster than ext3.
[09:44] <Jester45> i would say 20-30 % faster
[09:44] <kalikiana> So you got ya answer.
[09:44] <Jester45> v3 isnt much faster
[09:45] <Jester45> xfs is ok on low spec machines
[09:45] <Jester45> and i dont really care for jfs
[09:47] <Ramla> http://zork.net/~nick/mail/why-reiserfs-is-teh-sukc
[09:48] <kalikiana> Arg, that site has an unreadable font.
[09:51] <Ramla> What do you mean? Size, colors?
[09:52] <Jester45> sytle and size make it kinda hard for me
[09:53] <Ramla> Could be a point or two bigger, but I like the colors
[09:53] <kalikiana> ^^ Yep, it's too small and the font type isn't that good for long text.
[09:54] <Jester45> its white and black... just like my whole desktop
[09:54] <Ramla> I looked at the source and stylesheet, didn't see a specific font face set
[09:57] <B1zz> hi, i got a wireless network,  i can connect to my wireless router grab an ip, i can also ping my router, but i cant get web pages to load.  Maybe I am missing a step? Any ideas
[09:58] <Jester45> yea i read that whole little thing and i dont really mind relying on ups
[09:59] <hyper__ch> hmmm, xjs seems to be the best one... quicker than ext3 or reiserfs
[10:00] <Jester45> what reiser
[10:02] <vidd_laptop> B1zz, did you set your DNS up?
[10:03] <B1zz> Oh. No...how would i go about doing that?
[10:03] <vidd_laptop> well...lets test that it is the problem first.....
[10:03] <B1zz> OK
[10:06] <vidd_laptop> put <IP_ADDRESS>  in your web browser...does it load?
[10:06] <B1zz> checking now.....
[10:08] <vidd_laptop> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:08] <vidd_laptop> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:08] <vidd_laptop> anything?
[10:09] <B1zz> nope
[10:09] <vidd_laptop> ok....what is your routers ip?
[10:09] <B1zz> It just sits there looking for the page
[10:09] <B1zz> internal?
[10:09] <B1zz> or external?
[10:09] <vidd_laptop> it would be your gateway ip address
[10:10] <B1zz> internal i have it set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:10] <vidd_laptop> you have two computers....right?
[10:10] <vidd_laptop> one that connects and one that does not....right?
[10:11] <B1zz> well, like i said, i can grab an ip on the 2nd one, can ping the router, but not net access
[10:12] <vidd_laptop> so then....yes...you have 2 computers connected to this router....are they both wireless or is the working one wired?
[10:12] <B1zz> both are wireless
[10:13] <vidd_laptop> on the one that WORKS....what is the gateway ip?
[10:13] <vidd_laptop> is it a windows box or a linux box?
[10:14] <B1zz> I cant seem to see it with ifconfig, but i do bealive its the routers ip
[10:15] <vidd_laptop> ok...then what does ifconfig say its inet address is?
[10:15] <vidd_laptop> and is it set for dhcp or static?
[10:16] <B1zz> <IP_ADDRESS> the ip im using on this pc and my router is set to dhcp
[10:16] <B1zz> as well as the pc
[10:28] <vidd_laptop> sorry B1zz ...iu had a call (im at work)
[10:30] <vidd_laptop> ok....so what you want to do is try to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:30] <vidd_laptop> does this bring up your router's setup page?
[10:36] <vidd_laptop> B1zz, you still there?
[10:36] <B1zz> yeah, im sorry, I have a kvm switch and i was on the other pc
[10:36] <vidd_laptop> ah...ic
[10:36] <Jester45> so what do you do at your work vidd, you never seem busy
[10:37] <Jester45> well tell me in out channel
[10:37] <vidd_laptop> are you able to access the router set-up pages on the problem machine?
[10:38] <B1zz> well yes and no.  I have 2 wireless routers set up.  It hooked up to the 2nd one, and i was able to get the page.  But that's not the one that has the internet. so i unpluged it
[10:38] <B1zz> now im trying to get access to the other on, and cant seem to get the page to load
[10:40] <vidd_laptop> B1zz, you are going to need to ifdown then ifup your wireless card to get that to happen.....
[10:40] <B1zz> yeah thats what i am doing.
[10:46] <B1zz> weird, the connection is unstable now, it says connecting to the router it connects, but when i do dhclien, it looses the ap and the it does not grab an ip and it just loops that
[10:46] <vidd_laptop> why are you doing dhclient?
[10:47] <B1zz> to grab an ip?
[10:47] <vidd_laptop> what happens when you type iwconfig?
[10:47] <vidd_laptop> and what kind of wireless card you got?
[10:48] <B1zz> gives me my info.  AP mac and my wireless network name
[10:48] <vidd_laptop> ok....does the router have MAC filtering turned on?
[10:48] <B1zz> nope
[10:49] <vidd_laptop> what kind of wireless security do you have in place?
[10:49] <B1zz> wpa
[10:50] <Jester45> couldnt you just use MAC filtering?
[10:51] <B1zz> yeah, i could, but i prefer wpa :D
[10:51] <vidd_laptop> do you have wpa-suplicant [or whatever they use for it these days]  installed?
[10:51] <vidd_laptop> and coded correctly?
[10:52] <B1zz> im sure i do, but i will verify.  I will go back to google, and do a search for my problem.  Maybe it will fix the problem i was asking you about too :D
[10:53] <B1zz> thank you very much for your time vidd_laptop
[10:54] <vidd_laptop> any time B1zz
[10:54] <vidd_laptop> well,,,, anytime im online!
[10:55] <B1zz> :D trust me ill be coming back here....im trying to get this all set up, so i can mess around with the backtrack 2 installation i have on my laptop
[11:02] <Jester45> how would i blank a dvd-rw in the cli
[11:50] <jacklow> i was wondering if someone could help me. i keep getting an error msg when i try to install
[11:54] <rijo> i just installed xubuntu on my laptop. and configured the screen res to 1024x768.. but it still is 800x600.. really when i change xorg.conf and restart x nothing happends.. is there any other place i need too chabge?
[12:01] <Ramla> rijo: which driver are you using?
[12:02] <rijo> Ramla: ati
[12:02] <rijo> ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x
[12:02] <rijo> autodetected
[12:05] <Ramla> Okay.. can't help much then.. I just had a similar problem with nvidia driver
[12:05] <W8TAH> anyone know if the debs for xchat from their site are any good?
[12:08] <Ramla> rijo: it seems the metamodes -option should work for ati driver too. it's a line to be added to xorg.conf
[12:08] <Ramla> for example: Option"MetaModes""1024x768_60 800x600_60"
[12:08] <Ramla> Goes to the Device-section
[12:08] <rijo> oh
[12:09] <rijo> i try that
[12:16] <Jester45> hey vidd
[12:17] <vidd> whatup


[02:27] <Zren> starcraftman, the meta key => kmenu is a kwin hack.
[02:27] <Zren> Because you can have multiple launchers (eg: different screens)
[02:27] <Zren> it needs a way to detect which one you want
[02:28] <Zren> the code looks for whichever one has a global shortcut set (like Alt+f1) and actiavtes it.
[02:28] <Zren> if you want a shortcut, but don't want meta key
[02:28] <Zren> follow this: https://zren.github.io/projects/kde/#cfg-21
[02:51] <starcraftman> Zren: thanks for replying, will try this. I am dissapointed that they did not provide some more obvious toggle.
[02:52] <starcraftman> Works, Iĺl just have to save this somewhere
[02:52] <starcraftman> I use meta for pulling down yakuake, much more useful.
[02:53] <Zren> Eh, peeps have been asking for the feature for years. UI stuff is a bit more annoying to do. The meta key code was... complicated enough (I've read it).
[02:54] <Zren> The reddit thread when it was announched was pretty funny (as someone asked the same thing).
[02:55] <Zren> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/55udc1/how_do_i_stop_the_meta_key_from_opening_the/d8dwr8y/
[02:57] <starcraftman> Zren: why hardcode it with said hack? Seems poor imo. I don know the details though. Especially since they still show menu allowing you to rebind kmenu to another key.
[03:04] <Zren> Qt doesn't support it as it's treated as a modifier key.
[03:05] <Zren> Or maybe it does. Iunno.
[03:05] <Zren> Can you assign keybinding to Shift/Alt/Ctrl/Meta on windows?
[08:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:03] <espere___> Hi. Just upgraded to 16.04. I have a mousepointer when the login window shows but as soon as I log in it dissappears. mouse still active though but no pointer. any suggestions?
[10:15] <hateball> espere___: do you have a desktop otherwise?
[10:15] <hateball> with panels etc
[10:16] <hateball> that is, is only the mouse missing, or do you have nothing at all?
[10:16] <espere___> hateball: yes
[10:16] <espere___> only mouse lacks
[10:16] <espere___> the pointer
[10:16] <espere___> its active
[10:17] <espere___> right mouse button shows the menu so its active
[10:17] <hateball> espere___: were you using a custom theme that is no longer compatible?
[10:17] <hateball> espere___: what did you upgrade from?
[10:17] <espere___> I tried adding a new user but that had the same result
[10:17] <hateball> ah
[10:18] <hateball> espere___: well I'll suggest the standard thing first, since 16.04 by default is quite... broken
[10:18] <hateball> espere___: and that is to use the backports ppa
[10:18] <hateball> espere___: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[10:18] <hateball> reboot once done, see how things play out
[10:49] <bembel> hi everyone
[10:49] <bembel> how are touchscreens working with kubuntu?
[10:50] <bembel> thinking about buying an acer aspire switch
[10:52] <bembel> is there anyone reading this?
[10:54] <bembel> how are touchscreens working with kubuntu?
[11:02] <soee_> bembel: i think this is more question about how Plasma works with touchscreens
[11:02] <soee_> you might ask on #plasma
[11:02] <espere___> hateball: looks very different but still no pointer
[11:07] <i337> Anyone know how to get lxdream working on kubuntu?
[11:07] <i337> Been trying but having no success
[11:08] <i337> I tried building the mercurial version but had no luck. Tried building from source and same error
[11:09] <i337> "configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old." yada yada
[11:09] <i337> If anyone can get this working and tell me how to do it I'd appreciate it
[11:09] <i337> Here's the link btw: http://www.lxdream.org/download.php
[11:09] <i337> I don't care if it's the dev version or the last stable release
[11:34] <hateball> espere___: hmmm
[11:36] <hateball> espere___: have you used gnome on the same machine?
[11:38] <hateball> espere___: and what GPU/driver do you use? try turning off effects temporarily with shift+alt+f12
[11:43] <espere___> hateball: I dont recall.
[11:43] <espere___> I use noveau atm I think. lemme check
[11:43] <espere___> shift-alt-f12 : I dont see anything happening
[11:45] <espere___> hateball: yes Xorg.0.log full with NOUVEAU
[11:47] <espere___> hateball: it seems that shift-alt-f12 does something: moving the mouse top left gives different result
[11:49] <hateball> espere___: it toggles compositing
[11:49] <hateball> espere___: so what GPU do you have? "lspci"
[11:49] <hateball> espere___: and do you have ideological reasons for using nouveau over nvidia blob? :p
[11:59] <espere___> hateball: I see 22 entries: 92000M GS and 9400M G
[12:00] <espere___> I thought that since I need to use old drivers by now Nouveau might be more reasonable and break less
[12:01] <hateball> I cant say, I dont have anything stuck on 340
[12:02] <hateball> espere___: but it's easy enough to try, see if it helps your issues
[12:15] <espere___> hateball: seems to work.. grrrrrr. thx a lot for helpin
[12:17] <hateball> espere___: works with nvidia blob?
[12:17] <hateball> espere___: you could file a bug against... I dunno what really :D
[12:18] <hateball> I mean nouveau is in the kernel, but the bug is apparent in plasma
[12:30] <i337> what's the shortcut to lock the screen?
[12:30] <i337> on windows is windows key + l
[12:30] <i337> pls
[12:31] <hateball> I have ctrl+alt+L but I cant recall if I set that myself
[12:31] <i337> hateball: that did it
[12:31] <i337> cheers
[12:34] <espere___> hateball: where/what to file then?
[12:34] <hateball> !bug
[12:35] <espere___> display bugs are a mess I suppose. net able to use my displays for 2 years now. big waste :-)
[12:35] <espere___> not
[12:35] <hateball> espere___: Suppose I'd file a bug against plasma (any part) and detail that you have missing cursor when using nouveau. Also mention you're using kubuntu ppa so plasma 5.8.4
[12:35] <hateball> espere___: what do you mean not able to use your displays?
[12:36] <espere___> I used to have more displays connected. but there seems to be a bug that thats not working anymore
[12:37] <hateball> espere___: multimonitor is fickle currently, but it should work. use nvidia-settings to configure them if you are using the nvidia blob
[12:38] <hateball> less broken multimonitor support is one reason to use the PPA as well, since many bugs have been fixed in 5.8.x
[12:39] <espere___> hateball: u sure it is fixed? I was using 4 monitors with cinerama and twinview iirc
[13:04] <hateball> espere___: oh I dont use more than 2 monitors so I cant say
[13:04] <hateball> well 2 + laptop
[13:22] <esperegu> hateball: I'll give multimonitor a try then. You suggest to update to backports?
[13:23] <viewer|85125> Good morning, just want to know if 16.10 is stable and recommended...?
[13:25] <rllavona_> morning, is 16.10 good?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:34] <soee> rllavona_: yes
[13:35] <BluesKaj> hey soee
[13:39] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[13:49] <rllavona_> soee thanks
[13:59] <esperegu> hateball: still does not seem to work
[14:15] <esperegu> hateball: it seems to function but then suddenly the sceen turns black. than after a while it comes back and I can move the mouse pointer but nothing responds. (afk for a bit)
[14:18] <Guest32592> Brazil
[14:28] <hateball> esperegu: sorry as I said I only use 2 monitors, and that's on Intel. My nvidia machine has a more recent gpu/driver also, and only one monitor
[14:28] <hateball> esperegu: so many parameters it's hard to know what goes wrong
[14:29] <hateball> esperegu: oh you may also like to wipe your kscreen configs and reboot, to get those freshly generated
[15:22] <esperegu> hateball: how is that done?
[15:23] <esperegu> hateball: I also just noticed (since it gets darker here) that after this upgrade on my laptop my keyboard lights do not work anymore :-)
[15:24] <esperegu> hateball: ha. that seemed to be a key combo ;-)
[15:25] <hateball> esperegu: do what? wipe kscreen?
[15:25] <esperegu> yes
[15:25] <hateball> esperegu: each monitor has a file config in ~/.local/share/kscreen
[15:26] <hateball> esperegu: so you just need to move/delete them and restart the session and things should autodetect again. after that if things arent magically just working, use nvidia-settings to config the monitors
[15:27] <esperegu> hateball: I have a xorg.conf that I use for the setup
[15:27] <esperegu> hateball: don't think I was able to get it working with the nvidia-settings
[15:27] <hateball> esperegu: I see
[15:28] <hateball> then I dont really know, as I said I dont use multimonitor with nvidia
[15:28] <hateball> intel "just works"
[15:29] <esperegu> hateball: I tried it with intel but that never worked properly.... (I had to use intel _and_ nvidia for multiple so I ended up with 2 nvidia cards)
[15:30] <TBotNik> All: Having mouse pointer problem. Working from phone. Writeup at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5647200#post5647200
[15:32] <TBotNik> Running ver 14.04
[15:32] <TBotNik> Hello?
[15:38] <soee> Kubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:38] <soee> so you have KDE4 as a desktop environment right?
[15:41] <soee> TBotNik: ^
[16:13] <TBotNik> All: Repeating: Having mouse pointer problem. Working from phone. Writeup at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5647200#post5647200 Running kubuntu 14.04 lts
[16:18] <TBotNik> Can anyone help me with my cursor problem?
[16:38] <TBotNik> Repeating: Can anyone help me with my cursor problem?
[16:46] <ayolibro> hi. i'm am installing kubuntu 16.10 right now (dualboot with windows 10). the installer asks me where i want to install the bootloader, but i don't really know what to choose. these are my partitions: https://paste.kde.org/pivktlf9e
[16:48] <ayolibro> it gives me the options /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda4, /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6.
[16:50] <ayolibro> oh and i am installing on uefi (if this is important)
[16:55] <yotux> With uefi I am not sure
[16:56] <yotux> Normally I have used used /dev/sda  as that is the boot sector of the first disk
[16:56] <yotux> ayolibro: where are you installing kubuntu
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ayolibro, i thought grub was supposed to be installed to the efi partition..but I'm not toyally sure ..ask in #ubuntu, there uEFI experts there
[16:57] <ahoneybun> ayolibro: if you have a efi partion from Windows I believe that you need to install the bootloader there
[16:57] <ayolibro> When I installed Win 10 I left free space for Kubuntu. Now I have created two partitions for Kubuntu (home and /) on this free space.
[16:57] <ahoneybun> older BIOS would be /dev/sda
[16:58] <BluesKaj> he has a UEFI system
[16:58] <ahoneybun> yea GRUB would handle the uefi booting of Win 10 and Kubuntu
[16:59] <yotux> It does in my case I just don't recall were I installed the boot loader
[17:00] <ahoneybun> I'm not dual booting atm but
[17:00] <ahoneybun>  /boot/efi
[17:00] <ahoneybun>  /
[17:00] <ahoneybun>  /home
[17:00] <ahoneybun> and swap is how I have my uefi laptop setup
[17:02] <yotux> ahoneybun, I'm not sure why I still have dual boot I have VM images for most of my windows needs.....
[17:02] <yotux> Silly Garmin devices.....
[17:03] <ayolibro> So I should install the bootloader to /dev/sda2? (It is the efi partition)
[17:05] <yotux> ayolibro,  I think some one said early there may be a uefi expert in #ubuntu
[17:05] <ayolibro> I already asked in ubuntu, but no one answered. Should I ask again?
[17:06] <yotux> I asked also am awaiting a response
[17:06] <ahoneybun> ayolibro: if /dev/sda2 is the efi then yes
[17:06] <ahoneybun> just have everything backup in case
[17:07] <yotux> ayolibro: It seems  a user is agreeing with what you stated, as always have a backup.....
[17:08] <ayolibro> I have a backup of everything. ^^
[17:08] <ayolibro> Thank you all for helping me!
[17:09] <yotux> We try when we can good luck and enjoy :)
[17:32] <ayolibro> yotux, everything works perfectly, I can start both Win 10 and Kubuntu. Thanks again!
[18:04] <primenumber> hello everybody
[18:48] <Karkoon> Hi. I have installed 16.10 and I think that my nvidia GPU isn't being used. I've tried gpu-manager and it says that noveau is being skipped and at the end it decides on i915 (so Intel card?).  Here's the output of gpu-manager. http://pastebin.com/4v0ekB0W
[19:45] <TBotNik> Did anyone figure ou my cursor problem, I posted earlier? Written up @ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/loose-the-cursor-pointer-4175596283/. You can see what ive been through!
[19:47] <TBotNik> No tty, always must reboot locks into this "no cursor" mode at boot now! Cmd i ran made it worse!
[20:08] <TBotNik> No tty, always must reboot locks into this "no cursor" mode at boot now! Cmd i ran made it worse!
[20:13] <[Relic]> what was the display manager for 14.04?
[20:19] <mparillo> [Relic]: It has been a while, but it was LightDM, IIRC.
[20:20] <[Relic]> suppose that don't work well with plasma 5.8?
[20:24] <TBotNik> Can I get some help?
[20:29] <[Relic]> no clue, is it a phpmyadmin configuration problem?
[20:48] <TBotNik> Since no one has a patch/work around for the cursor problem, running ver upgrade from recovery mode root cmd line. Had to 1st enable networking, 2nd run mounts to get all in rw mode, 3rd issue the didt-upgrade cmd!


[00:27] <MatthewMetzger> kirkland: around?
[02:12] <MatthewMetzger> anyone awake here? I'd like to chat about how ubuntu server handles memory.
[02:12] <nijaba> MatthewMetzger: hello
[02:12] <MatthewMetzger> hi nijaba :)
[02:12] <nijaba> MatthewMetzger: I have read our report
[02:12] <nijaba> YourMomsHero, even
[02:12] <nijaba> "you", even (stupid autocopletion)
[02:13] <nijaba> do you have cron jobs active on yor server?
[02:13] <MatthewMetzger> okay. I'm specifically wondering if "sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" is okay to run to clear the caches.
[02:14] <nijaba> what is mysql doing?  Is it polled by someone?
[02:14] <MatthewMetzger> Yes, I have a few cron jobs set up. Nothing changed, though
[02:14] <MatthewMetzger> mysql is running. It is being used as a database for our library server (Koha). I'm going to do an upgrade of Koha later tonight (alpha to beta).
[02:15] <MatthewMetzger> What do you mean by "polled"?
[02:15] <nijaba> MatthewMetzger: I don't think dropping the cache is a good idea with mysql running
[02:15] <nijaba> polled: receive request on a regular basis
[02:15] <nijaba> can you try stopping mysql and see if cache continues on growing?
[02:16] <MatthewMetzger> no polling. The database is used infrequently (students don't search for books often).
[02:16] <nijaba> MatthewMetzger: so right now, no student uses it?
[02:16] <MatthewMetzger> I can stop mysql, but only over the weekend.
[02:16] <MatthewMetzger> actually, yes. The service is used every day, but it just doesn't have much traffic.
[02:16] <nijaba> just to see, that's the first thing that comes to my mind to try isolate the problem
[02:17] <MatthewMetzger> I understand and agree.
[02:17] <nijaba> at the rate the problem occurs, you should see the difference quite fast
[02:18] <MatthewMetzger> is having large amounts of memory cached normal? I don't recall seeing this on my other ubuntu installs.
[02:18] <nijaba> I am going to bed quite soon, but leave me a message here, I do read logs when highlighted
[02:19] <nijaba> MatthewMetzger: yes, it can be, if it never goes to swap.
[02:19] <nijaba> cache is good: it is data you do not go fetch to the disk
[02:19] <MatthewMetzger> nijaba: thanks. I understand better now.
[02:19] <MatthewMetzger> have a good night :)
[02:20] <nijaba> thanks, have a good whatever for your tz
[02:23] <MatthewMetzger> American/Central/Chicago time zone
[07:53]  * saltedlight hi. anyone know why ubuntu 8.04 identify ATA hard drives as SATA ?!? on every system ?!? is this a known bug or what?
[07:58]  * saltedlight after dist-upgrade ubuntu is not booting because I/O on SDA witch should be HDA and if i boot on the old kernel (found on grub menu) is ok... anyone know how to fix that?
[10:15]  * delcoyote hi
[12:31] <rhineheart_m> few days from now and hardy will be released. any update?
[13:01] <rhineheart_m> hello.. what's the purpose of DHCP server in ubuntu?
[14:01] <rhineheart_m> anybody here uses ipcop?
[17:12] <hubuntu> Is an entry/profile for ebox automated installation in Hardy as there is one for LAMP in Gutsy?
[17:12] <hubuntu> I'm writing a presentation for ubuntu server
[17:30] <hubuntu> come on it's the second day I come around and NOBODY answers:  I am just wondering if it has become one of the choices for an automated server installation or not (like LAMP, OpenSSh, etc...)
[17:31] <Deeps> no idea, check the documentation on the website, or download the beta iso and check it out
[17:32] <Deeps> if you're doing a presentation on the latest ubuntu, screenshots are a useful tool, you probably want to virtualize the current release to take good snapshots from
[17:32] <hubuntu> I know, but I must finish the basics for tomorrow and there is a lot to cover. The presentation ewill be hold the 26th sp by that time I will have screenshots :)
[17:33] <hubuntu> thanks for the advice
[17:33] <Deeps> good luck
[17:33] <Deeps> suerte ;)
[17:33] <hubuntu> The more I write, the better I realize Ubuntu is in the server ;) Una vez terminada espero la presenten en varias ciudades en el FLISOL
[17:34] <Deeps> k guay
[17:35] <hubuntu> tu sabes bastante del servidor verdad?`Puedes darmela revisando antes de entregar manana?
[17:35] <hubuntu> osea el lado técnico
[17:35] <Deeps> nop, lo siento, tengo un monton d trabajo pa hacer todavia
[17:36] <Deeps> estoy tomando un kitkat;)
[17:36] <hubuntu> ok, en todo caso estará en el wiki del FLISOL y Ub untu si alguién en tu LoCo tiene oprtunidad antes del 26
[17:36] <hubuntu> me voy a seguir
[17:36] <hubuntu> kitkat?
[17:36] <hubuntu> Ubuntu cola?
[17:36] <hubuntu> hehe
[17:36] <Deeps> un descanso ;)
[17:36] <Deeps> como las publicidades,
[17:37] <Deeps> y no se nada de mi loco
[17:37] <Deeps> creo q hay un monton de gente de kubuntu aqui en canarias
[17:37] <Deeps> pero no tengo nidea
[17:38] <hubuntu> estoy en contacto con la gente en ubuntu-es. Suerte con lo que estés haciendo ;)
[17:38] <Deeps> ah no, estoy trabajando con algo de mi empleo
[17:39] <Deeps> nada d ubuntu
[17:39] <Deeps> bueno, ya sigo
[17:39] <Deeps> suerte con su presentacion
[17:53] <AlexC_> hey all,
[17:54] <AlexC_> I've got very high memory usage on my server, and it is not even doing a lot, it is using 780mb :S. 'top' just mostly shows Apache, Dovecot, and Postfix
[17:54] <AlexC_> wondering how I can locate the source of the excessive memory usage?
[17:54] <Mike_KirkCameron> i need install qmail on ubuntu 7.10 server ,who can help me?
[17:55] <Mike_KirkCameron> i need install qmail on ubuntu 7.10 server ,who can help me?
[17:55] <AlexC_> Mike_KirkCameron, I think people heard you the first time, about 1 min ago ...
[17:56] <faulkes-> AlexC: ps aux
[17:57] <faulkes-> the VSZ/RSS values will tell you what is using up the most memory
[17:58] <AlexC_> VSZ? I don't see that
[17:58] <AlexC_> ah, yes I do
[17:58] <Mike_KirkCameron> who can help me?
[17:58] <Mike_KirkCameron> install qmail doc .
[17:59] <AlexC_> faulkes-, hum ... shall I pastebin the output of that for you to talk a look?
[18:04] <Mike_KirkCameron> every body?
[18:06] <faulkes-> AlexC: certainly, I have a few moments
[18:06] <faulkes-> Mike: Never installed qmail on ubuntu, is there a particular reason you need it vs. postfix?
[18:07] <AlexC_> faulkes-, http://paste2.org/p/20439 - I'm running Apache2 with SuEXEC and fastcgid, with php-cgi if that is of any relevance
[18:08] <Mike_KirkCameron> i see
[18:08] <Mike_KirkCameron> i see
[18:11] <faulkes-> the biggest usage I see there is apache2 and yes, I would say that suexec and fastcgi have relevance
[18:12] <AlexC_> they shouldn't be using *that* much memory though, surely?
[18:12] <faulkes-> how much memory does the box have? and have you checked the 'free' command to see how much is being used by buffers or swap?
[18:12] <faulkes-> AlexC: it's using around 250+mb, there are any number of possible reasons why, especially if you have users ;)
[18:12] <AlexC_> faulkes-, it has 784mb (or something like that) however it is burstable to 1.5gb (this is a VPS)
[18:12] <AlexC_> free shows: 'Mem:       1572864     827696     745168          0          0          0' and using no swap
[18:13] <AlexC_> faulkes-, well, the site is really not being used that much - it's nothing major
[18:13] <faulkes-> I don't trust "burstable" ram ;)
[18:13] <faulkes-> however, it would appear that you have just under half your ram in buffers, which is normal
[18:13] <AlexC_> same, which is why I'm trying to find the cause of this
[18:14] <AlexC_> what exactly does that mean?
[18:14] <faulkes-> the system takes free ram and will use it to speed things up via buffers
[18:14] <AlexC_> and, are you sure? there is a '0' under Buffers
[18:14] <faulkes-> oh, wait
[18:15] <faulkes-> yeah, sorry, was reading incorrectly
[18:15] <faulkes-> still, half of your ram is free then
[18:15] <faulkes-> although why it hasn't used any of it for buffers is beyond me
[18:15] <faulkes-> I would start by looking at your apache / php configuration
[18:15] <AlexC_> mm, but that other half is going into my burstable =\
[18:16] <AlexC_> ok
[18:30] <ltcabral> hey
[18:30] <ltcabral> how can i kill an open connection that is LISTEN in netstat
[18:31] <Nafallo> ltcabral: shut the daemon
[18:33] <ltcabral> Nafallo, hm... how can i do that?
[18:33] <ltcabral> u mean the application?
[18:34] <Nafallo> except I define those words different I might mean what you said.
[18:35] <ltcabral> i stoped the app with ctrl+z
[18:35] <Nafallo> that's pause surely
[18:36] <ltcabral> ya i noticed it after i did it :)
[18:36] <ltcabral> how can i stop it then?
[18:36] <Nafallo> fg
[18:36] <Nafallo> ^C
[18:37] <ltcabral> ooh thx :)
[18:42] <daeron> hy guys
[18:42] <daeron> there's somebody from italy?
[18:43] <Nafallo> #ubuntu-it is probably from there.
[18:43] <jibwn> I'm trying to make an nfs share of my /data folder which has multiple drives mounted on /data/music /data/video etc... I can access the /data folder but nothing on any of the drives mounted under it. I've tried the nohide but it didn't work. Any ideas how to get this going?
[18:43] <bicz> daeron: yes
[18:55] <daeron> I have some problems with vsftpd, I can't see anything after login
[18:55] <daeron> somoe ideas?
[19:00] <sommer> daeron: have you checked permissions?
[19:03] <daeron> on yeah
[19:03] <daeron> this is my cfg file
[19:03] <daeron> listen=YES
[19:03] <daeron> anonymous_enable=YES
[19:03] <daeron> local_enable=YES
[19:03] <daeron> write_enable=YES
[19:03] <daeron> anon_upload_enable=YES
[19:03] <daeron> anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES
[19:03] <daeron> dirmessage_enable=YES
[19:03] <daeron> xferlog_enable=YES
[19:03] <daeron> connect_from_port_20=YES
[19:03] <daeron> chown_uploads=YES
[19:03] <faulkes-> please use pastebin for config files
[19:03] <daeron> chown_username=daeron
[19:03] <daeron> ftpd_banner=Welcome to blah FTP service.
[19:03] <daeron> secure_chroot_dir=/var/run/vsftpd
[19:03] <daeron> pam_service_name=vsftpd
[19:03] <faulkes-> !pastebin
[19:04] <daeron> rsa_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/vsftpd.pem
[19:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:04] <daeron> anon_root=/home/ftp
[19:04] <daeron> oh, excuse me
[19:04] <faulkes-> no worries
[19:04] <faulkes-> pastebin is just easier for everyone to look at and follow
[19:05] <daeron>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16listen=YES anonymous_enable=YES local_enable=YES write_enable=YES anon_upload_enable=YES anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES dirmessage_enable=YES xferlog_enable=YES connect_from_port_20=YES chown_uploads=YES chown_username=daeron ftpd_banner=Welcome to blah FTP service. secure_chroot_dir=/var/run/vsftpd pam_service_name=vsftpd rsa_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/vsftpd.pem anon_root=/home/ftp
[19:05] <creator> hey can someone help me wiht a samba issue?
[19:05] <faulkes-> jibwn: if server1:/data has all the music/video stuff mounted the client1:/data should be able to see, turning off nohide shouldn't matter
[19:06] <faulkes-> jibwn: I would check that nfs is properly reaching the server (/var/log/{syslog,messages}) and that there is no firewall/iptables issues occuring
[19:06] <daeron> E' stata richiesta una sessione di messaggi musicali. Fare clic sull'icona MM per accettare.
[19:06] <creator> i am trying to create a user account in samba but when ever i do that it tells me creator@myserver:~$ sudo smbpasswd -a georg
[19:06] <creator> [sudo] password for creator:
[19:06] <creator> New SMB password:
[19:06] <creator> Retype new SMB password:
[19:06] <creator> Failed to modify password entry for user georg
[19:07] <faulkes-> creator: check permissions on the smbpasswd file (yes, even if you are root/sudo this can be an issue)
[19:08] <creator> how do i do that
[19:08] <faulkes-> although, it is entirely possible you retyped the password wrong the second time
[19:08] <creator> << noob sauce
[19:08] <creator> haha tried it 5 or 6 times ... dont think i miss typed that often
[19:08] <sommer> daeron: can you not see the files when connecting as an actual user or when connecting anonymously?
[19:09] <daeron> anonymously
[19:09] <daeron> i don't need to configure users
[19:10] <creator> faulkes: how do i check the permission on that file?
[19:10] <faulkes-> creator: I don't recall the exact path to the smbpasswd file, man smbpasswd should tell you the default or /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:10] <faulkes-> however, you would then ls -l to see that the file has the w bit set for the owner
[19:11] <sommer> daeron: and are there files in /home/ftp?
[19:11] <jibwn> thanks, faulkes-  I just found the issue. I hadn't gotten around to adding the drives in fstab yet, they were manually mounted. After adding them it works.
[19:11] <daeron> yes of course;)
[19:12] <creator> damn neith the man nor conf tell me where its at
[19:15] <creator> faulkes: I think this is what Im looking for
[19:16] <creator> creator@myserver:~$ /etc/samba/smbusers ls -l
[19:16] <creator> -bash: /etc/samba/smbusers: Permission denied
[19:17] <creator> faulkes: creator@myserver:~$ sudo ls -l /etc/samba/smbusers
[19:17] <creator> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23 2008-04-13 13:52 /etc/samba/smbusers
[19:17] <sommer> daeron: are there any errors in /var/log/vsftpd.log ?
[19:19] <creator> anyone?
[19:19] <daeron> this is the log
[19:19] <daeron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63090/
[19:20] <daeron> it worked today, but now it doesn't work anymore
[19:23] <stwange> hey, how do I enable gateway ports on gutsy? I checked /etc/ssh/sshd_config but it wasn't there, I tried adding it and /etc/init.d/ssh restart but I still can't connect from outside the localhost
[19:24] <stwange> it's not in /etc/ssh/ssh_config either
[19:24] <Deeps> what did you add to your /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[19:24] <Deeps> by default it listens on all interfaces on port 22
[19:24] <Deeps> and nothing needs to be added
[19:25] <stwange> I'm trying to tunnel, and I need GatewayPorts to be set to yes for it to listen on anything other than localhost:someport (different from the port 22 for ssh access)
[19:26] <Deeps> oh, for when tunnelling
[19:26] <Deeps> what kind of tunnel are you doing, local or remote?
[19:26] <stwange> remote, reverse
[19:27] <Deeps> hmm
[19:27] <Deeps> yeah that i dont know
[19:27] <Deeps> i usually do a second local tunnel on the remote machine
[19:27] <Deeps> with -g
[19:27] <stwange> man sshd_config says to set GatewayPorts to yes, but it's not there
[19:28] <Deeps> add GatewayPorts yes, restart your ssh server, and reconnect
[19:28] <Deeps> from what i can see in the man page anyway
[19:29] <stwange> do you know how to restart sshd? I tried /etc/init.d/sshd restart but it said no such file or directory. I tried /etc/init.d/ssh restart but it didn't make a difference
[19:29] <Deeps> root@router:~# /etc/init.d/ssh restart * Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd                           [ OK ]
[19:29] <Deeps> then you need to reconnect your ssh session
[19:29] <Deeps> with your tunnelling
[19:31] <stwange> yeah sorry about that
[19:31] <Deeps> just tried it, looks like it works
[19:31] <stwange> I'd restarted ssh, but forgot I had to reconnect the tunnel :)
[19:31] <Deeps> might wanna use client-specified
[19:31] <Deeps> rather than yes
[19:32] <Deeps> and then on remote tunnels you specify -g on the ones you want globally visible
[19:32] <Deeps> (like you would with local tunnels)
[19:35] <stwange> thanks for the help mate
[19:35] <Deeps> np
[19:36] <stwange> offhand, I don't suppose you know what the disable repositories are on a clean ubuntu install? I need to add them with just bash
[19:37] <Deeps> no vi?
[19:38] <Deeps> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | (more|less|most|head -n|tail -n)
[19:38] <stwange> yeah but they aren't commented out
[19:38] <stwange> I'll check my other install and see what they were
[19:38] <Deeps> you can then see what it is through that
[19:38] <Deeps> grep http /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:40] <stwange> I got them from my other box :) thanks anyway
[20:11] <ScatterBrain> Need help recovering a failed drive.
[21:32] <MatBoy> hey guys ! when I have /home as a software raid1 using ext3, is it easy to switch this one to LVM ?
[21:36] <abrakadabr> hi! can anybody help me to install ispconfig?
[21:37] <abrakadabr> anybody hear me?
[21:41] <stwange> hey.... I modified apache2 for vhosts and messed it up, I've tried using aptitude to purge it, but reinstalling I still get connection refused
[21:43] <stwange> I got it :) thanks anyway
[21:57] <stiv2k> help
[21:57] <stiv2k> oops, bad way to start a question
[21:58] <Nafallo> lol
[21:58] <stiv2k> ok I have this mysqld_safe process that runs indefinitely, and it consumes 100% CPU all the time.... it's lagging my server, what is it doing and why is it running all the time?
[21:58] <stiv2k> 22429 root      25   0  1752  368  344 R 90.4  0.1  14956:41 mysqld_safe
[21:58] <Nafallo> mysqladmin status
[21:58] <Nafallo> mysqladmin proc
[21:58] <Nafallo> that should give you somewhere to start.
[21:59] <stiv2k> um,
[21:59] <stiv2k> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[21:59] <stiv2k> error: 'Access denied for user 'steve'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[22:01] <stwange> stiv2k mysqladmin -p
[22:01] <stwange> will prompt you for a password
[22:02] <stiv2k> ok
[22:07] <stwange> ok can anyone give me a hand with lamp on ubuntu 7.10? I have apache2, php5 and libapache2-mod-php5 installed, but the .php in my /var/www/ is asking to be downloaded: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[22:16] <sommer> stwange: did you restart apache?
[22:27] <symtab> how do i restart the network?
[22:27] <symtab> /etc/init.d/network restart doesnt work
[22:28] <sommer> symtab: did you try sudo /etc/init.d/network restart ?
[22:30] <symtab> trying now
[23:40] <symtab> when running ifconfig you have like like this
[23:40] <symtab> txqueuelen:100
[23:40] <symtab> what does this mean?
[23:41] <JaxxMaxx_> transmit queue length.
[23:41] <JaxxMaxx_> obscure networking setting, probably best left alone?
[23:41] <symtab> the thing is
[23:41] <symtab> i have 2 servers
[23:41] <symtab> both in the same network
[23:41] <symtab> one is .28
[23:41] <symtab> one .29
[23:41] <symtab> .28 works
[23:42] <symtab> and both servers have 2 network cards (internal and external)
[23:42] <symtab> on the one that works both network cards have txqueuelen: 1000
[23:42] <symtab> on the one that doesnt work
[23:42] <symtab> the external network card has txqueuelen: 100
[23:42] <symtab> could this be the reason why it doesnt work?
[23:42] <Deeps> highly unlikely
[23:42] <symtab> i'm sure the settings (ip, netmask, gateway) are correct
[23:43] <Deeps> the only instance i've ever fiddled the txqueuelen is when i was dealing with a gbit link and wanted to improve performance
[23:44] <Deeps> are you sure that there's a link between the 2 nics that dont appear to be working?
[23:44] <Deeps> are link lights on?
[23:44] <symtab> internally they work
[23:44] <symtab> but one of the server doesnt work externally
[23:44] <symtab> it doesnt have a internet connection
[23:45] <symtab> it should have, but it doesnt work
[23:45] <Deeps> ok, so you have 2 network cards, one on an internal network, the other on an external network?
[23:45] <symtab> yes
[23:45] <symtab> on both servers
[23:45] <symtab> let me explain again
[23:45] <symtab> i have 2 servers
[23:45] <Deeps> and not, 1 internal network card, and one external (eg usb) network card
[23:45] <Deeps> ok
[23:45] <symtab> each server has 2 network cards
[23:45] <symtab> server 1 = A
[23:45] <symtab> server 2 = B
[23:46] <symtab> A and B are connected internally in a network (<IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>) and this works
[23:46] <symtab> A also is connected to the internet through the other cable
[23:46] <symtab> B is not connected to the internet, because it doesnt work
[23:47] <symtab> i dont know to explain better :(
[23:47] <symtab> sorry
[23:47] <Deeps> the external cable from server B, does it plug into a switch? another computer?
[23:48] <Deeps> are there any lights on either that NIC on server B or wherever it's plugged into to indicate that there is actually a link?
[23:48] <symtab> both external cables from both servers are plugged in a switch
[23:48] <symtab> yeah the light is is blinking
[23:48] <Deeps> ok
[23:49] <Deeps> do both A and B have different IPs on their external interfaces?
[23:49] <symtab> yes
[23:49] <Deeps> btw, this notiation: <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> is wrong
[23:49] <Deeps> notation*
[23:49] <Deeps> as it would be interpretted as ip/netmask
[23:49] <symtab> i know its wrong..i just wanted to say that the servers are also connected in a internal network
[23:49] <symtab> i'm not the best networking expert :(
[23:49] <symtab> as you can see
[23:50] <Deeps> use a + sign, use a comma, and yes, thats why i'm teaching as we go along :)
[23:50] <Deeps> ok
[23:50] <Deeps> can server A ping the external gateway?
[23:50] <symtab> yes
[23:50] <Deeps> can server B?
[23:50] <symtab> and server B cant ping the gateway
[23:50] <symtab> :(
[23:50] <symtab> hmm
[23:51] <Deeps> do you control the gateway?
[23:51] <symtab> no i dont, but i can speak with the person who does
[23:51] <Deeps> is it possible that the gateway has filtering on it, to restrict access to specific IPs or MAC addresses?
[23:51] <symtab> let me ask
[23:51] <JaxxMaxx_> have them ping your server B external IP from the gateway
[23:53] <symtab> hmm, seems like the admin is not there
[23:53] <symtab> if i try this
[23:53] <Deeps> alternatively, unplug server a from the external switch, assign it's IP to server B, spoof server A's external interface's MAC address onto server B
[23:53] <Deeps> and then retry
[23:53] <symtab> get the cable from the server that is working and plug it in the server that is not working
[23:53] <symtab> should this work?
[23:53] <symtab> of course reconfigure the ip
[23:53] <Deeps> ifconfig externalinterface down
[23:54] <symtab> i know how to use ifconfig (or at least i think i know :-)
[23:54] <Deeps> ifconfig externalinterface inet <ip> netmask <netmask> hw ether <mac address of server a's external interface>
[23:54] <Deeps> ifconfig externalinterface inet <ip> netmask <netmask> hw ether <mac address of server a's external interface> up
[23:54] <symtab> ok
[23:54] <symtab> i will try this
[23:55] <Deeps> make sure both are unplugged when you do the configuration
[23:55] <Deeps> plug in the cable once it's done
[23:55] <Deeps> oh
[23:55] <Deeps> it might be worth noting the original MAC of the interface
[23:59] <symtab> ok
[23:59] <symtab> so what i did
[23:59] <symtab> i assigned server's A ip to server B (also reconfigured the gateway)


[09:35] <jelmer> moin bzrers
[20:15] <superfly> Can anyone tell me if bzrlib will be ported to Python3
[22:46] <Mo0O> Hi, I'm trying to branch from launchpad, but each time fail with a "killed" error
[22:47] <Mo0O> somebody know why ?
[23:04] <thumper> Mo0O: what are you trying to branch?
[23:11] <LeoNerd> Mo0O: "Killed" may be OOM


 It changes the colour of text to white for the filled part of progress bars
[21:35] <dashua> http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_7.1213389327.png
[21:35] <dashua> Anyone know how to fix these color issues?
[21:36] <dashua> Something doesn't seem right here.
[21:36] <dashua> Human-Murrine/Clearlooks seem ok.
[21:37] <dashua> Or is this an issue with Banshee?
[23:09] <psyke83> dashua_, the fix has been committed and should make it to Hardy soon
[23:09] <psyke83> it was an issue with the theme and Banshee using custom widgets