[04:15] <MauritianGuy> hello i am back
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> it normally uses the next unallocated display.. why do you need to change it nvme ?
[04:15] <domi007> i need help
[04:15] <rww> ubottu: startup | cvd
[04:15] <domi007> anyone has ipw2200?
[04:15] <MrUnix> !hi | MauritianGuy
[04:15] <MauritianGuy> thanks Billiard  its working Just fint with the 185
[04:16] <MrUnix> !ask | domi007
[04:16] <cvd> MrUnix,  i know but it open
[04:16] <haitiankid4lyf> Out_Cold: doesnt seem to be there http://pastebin.org/81354
[04:16] <domi007> okay
[04:16] <nvme> Dr_Willis, well i dont really need to change it, I am trying to start an extra gnome xsession, but i want it on vt6 if possible
[04:16] <MauritianGuy> the Xserver is displaying all the proper driver details all good Billiard
[04:16] <MrUnix> cvd???
[04:16] <domi007> ipw2200: unable to load ucode: -22 can i solve this somehow?
[04:16] <cvd> i want empathy start minimized
[04:16] <haitiankid4lyf> thing is it was working flawlessly earlier today and havent upgraded or anything
[04:16] <MrUnix> cvd, look in the settings?
[04:16] <Ziber> !cron
[04:16] <void_pointer> mdg, well it's not dialup in this case. I get 7.2Mbps theoretical, about 6Mbps actual. I hope that doesn't anger you.
[04:16] <cvd> MrUnix,  dont have that
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> nvme:  stop the consoles from starting on vt6 and X should use it. instead of 7 I thinkl
[04:17] <MrUnix> cvd, The settings for empathy?
[04:17] <cvd> MrUnix, yes
[04:17] <mickster04> albech i have both those to yes
[04:17]  * MrUnix remembers when Ubuntu came standard with Pidgin
[04:17] <albech> ok
[04:17] <domi007> ipw2200: unable to load ucode: -22 can i solve this somehow? i used google, still nothing
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> nvme:  see /etc/init  - > rename tty6.conf to be tty6.conf_DONTRUN   or similer..
[04:17] <nvme> Dr_Willis, already did that but it doesnt, i even added the appropriate settings to /etc/gdm/custom.conf, but it keeps going to vt7
[04:17] <semitones> MrUnix: why did the switch to "emotion" or whatever it is now?
[04:18] <rww> empathy
[04:18] <semitones> yeah
[04:18] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, you are right, it's not there.. how about lshw?
[04:18] <neil_d> initrd isn't seting up my mdadm raid1 properly.. is there anything I can do about it
[04:18] <albech> mickster04, its also a good idea to set LogLevel to DEBUG while working with stuff like this, but it requires that you can find the log file ;)
[04:18] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[04:18] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, may need sudo again
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> nvme:  used tobe settings in gdm.conf but  no idea with the gdm in 9.10
[04:18] <void_pointer> mdg, I'm sorry if I've made you mad. It was not my intention.
[04:18] <MrUnix> semitones, I am not sure, but I am of the understanding that the most popular packages are the ones included.
[04:18] <mickster04> albech: but the ssh id copy thing i dont know what that is?
[04:19] <mdg> void_pointer: ??? not mad  :)
[04:19] <semitones> MrUnix: yeah, they're also cutting thegimp
[04:19] <domi007> i am using the latest ubuntu, but ipw2200 doesn't work, it says in dmesg: unable to load ucode: -22...all files are in the right folders
[04:19] <kevin1093> i have been trying to install Ubuntu and i sucessfully installed it but now my computer stops at verifying DMI pool data. can anyone help me?
[04:19] <zomfgcrazy> how do i tell what version of grub i'm using?
[04:19] <MrUnix> semitones, Are they?
[04:19] <void_pointer> mdg,  ok
[04:19] <howdeep> Just installed ubuntu on a desktop with onboard audio device. i have no sound at all. where should i start?
[04:19] <mickster04> albech idi mv id_rsa.pub authorized_keys
[04:19] <semitones> MrUnix: yeah, it won't be installed by default anymore, to save space on the cd
[04:19] <MrUnix> zomfgcrazy, grub
[04:19] <albech> mickster04, thats a utility copy the public key from the client to the server and append it to the authorized_keys
[04:19] <mdg> howdeep: double click the sound icon and check your settings
[04:19] <nvme> Dr_Willis, yeah i thin custom.conf is the same thing, i told it to make first vt5, but it still put gnome on vt7
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  did you do a clean install of 09.10?
[04:20] <albech> mickster04, but if you did that manually it is fine
[04:20] <MrUnix> semitones, I know a lot of people don't like GIMP. Oh well, not so hard to apt-get install <foo>
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> nvme:  they have changed the layout of gdm.conf so much. I havent even looked in to it much
[04:20] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: i did! =D
[04:20] <howdeep> mdg, the output is set to 'dummy output' what does that mean?
[04:20] <semitones> MrUnix: true. and people who need it will probably know about it
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  then you are uwing grub2
[04:20] <jumper> HOLA COMO ESTAS
[04:20] <jumper> COMO ESTAN
[04:20] <FloodBot1> jumper: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:20] <Out_Cold> !es
[04:20] <MrUnix> !es | jumper
[04:20] <semitones> MrUnix: I just liked how people new to foss would click on it, and think, hey this is cool
[04:20] <cvd> jumper,  vete a #ubuntu-es
[04:20] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: thank you. when i type grub into console it says grub isn't installed.  is there some other official name for it?
[04:21] <nvme> Dr_Willis, also im trying to start a second X session at boot, but i want a delayed start on it, so would putting "startx -- :2" in rc.local work ?
[04:21] <mdg> howdeep: not sure... but I think you want master volume...
[04:21] <mickster04> albech so what is there left to check:(
[04:21] <nwu> Does anyone know why Ubuntu would repeatedly log out for no apparent reason?
[04:21] <cvd> jumper,  y quita el jodio caps lock ese
[04:21] <fluffymcduff> No
[04:21] <albech> mickster04, the log files ;)
[04:21] <domi007> i have tried everything i have found with google, but still: unable to load ucode: -22 please, i need help, i use ubuntu 9.10
[04:21] <MrUnix> semitones, Most people who do that end up here.
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> grub-<tab>
[04:21] <semitones> MrUnix: with questions about it?
[04:21] <howdeep> mdg, its up
[04:21] <kevin1093> i have been trying to install Ubuntu and i sucessfully installed it but now my computer stops at verifying DMI pool data. can anyone help me?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  what are you trying to do exactkty>
[04:21] <MrUnix> semitones, About all sorts
[04:21] <mickster04> albech: but they dont tell me anything how do i set the log level to debug?
[04:21] <okokl> hello
[04:21] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: set the grub boot so that it will default to windows xp.
[04:22] <albech> can anyone verify that there is no /var/log/auth.log file on ubuntu?
[04:22] <MrUnix> !hi | okokl
[04:22] <semitones> nwu: not sure, unless you're on a laptop that's unplugged, and set to shutdown automatically
[04:22] <okokl> hey anyone her have issues with tor running?
[04:22] <haitiankid4lyf> out_cold doesnt seem to be there either http://pastebin.org/81355
[04:22] <MrUnix> albech, is there one in yours?
[04:22] <MrUnix> !ask | okokl
[04:22] <jumper> buenas noches
[04:22] <mdg> howdeep: the only other thing I can suggest is make your way to the sound settings via preferences > sound
[04:22] <MrUnix> !es | jumper
[04:22] <jumper> GENTE QUE HABLE ESPAÑOL
[04:22] <cvd> jumper,  que tu quires
[04:22] <okokl> sorry
[04:22] <albech> mickster04, change 'LogLevel INFO' to 'LogLevel DEBUG' in sshd.conf
[04:23] <nwu> semitones: no, the screen suddenly blacks out and then shows a black-and-white terminal for a moment before going back to the ubuntu login screen
[04:23] <MrUnix> okokl, Don't be sorry - just state your issue bud.
[04:23] <mickster04> albech i used 1024 bit encryption but my sshd_config gile say "serverkeybits 768" might that have sumat to do with it?
[04:23] <domi007> i need help, i need internet, i got an intel 2915abg card, but ipw2200 doesn't load: unable to load ucode:-22 HELP please!
[04:23] <semitones> nwu: huh. I don't know if I can help you
[04:23] <mickster04> albech: oh no
[04:23] <MrUnix> domi007, Wireless?
[04:23] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, is ip=<IP_ADDRESS> your lan?
[04:23] <semitones> what are you doing when that happens?
[04:23] <domi007> yeah wireless
[04:23] <haitiankid4lyf> yes
[04:23] <okokl> i've installed vidali and it doesn't seem to work with privoxy.
[04:23] <mickster04> albech thats V1
[04:23] <haitiankid4lyf> Out_Cold: yes
[04:24] <MrUnix> domi007, lspci and paste me your wireless line
[04:24] <albech> mickster04, ?
[04:24] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, a desktop? perhaps your card is bad?? or unplugged
[04:24] <nwu> semitones: ah, all right. :/
[04:24] <nwu> if it helps any, this seems to have started happening when I got a new monitor
[04:24] <allyourbass> having trouble getting usb volumes to mount i keep getting errors here http://pastebin.com/m2b1143a
[04:24] <okokl> is there anything special i need to do to it ? i know in windows it runs off the bat with privoxy
[04:24] <semitones> hmm
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  read the grub2 wiki page/docs and edit the proper grub2 confuigs.. then rerun update-grub
[04:24] <allyourbass> ive searched all over google and im not getting anywhere
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | zomfgcrazy
[04:24] <howdeep> mdg, forgot that i had onboard audio disabled in the bios. my bad :(
[04:24] <mickster04> albech lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key
[04:24] <neil_d> I need help bad!  I have a mdadm RAID1 setup, using 2 SATA drives.. when I remove a HDD (for testing) /dev/md0 isn't setup correctly... I need to get this working
[04:25] <mdg> howdeep: at least thats an easy fix :)
[04:25] <domi007> MrUnix: lspci says somehting like intel wireless 2915abg i remember this
[04:25] <haitiankid4lyf> Out_Cold: its a laptop plugged in, wlan suddenly stopped working it was working fine a few hours ago
[04:25] <domi007> i can't paste it
[04:25] <domi007> because i use another computer
[04:25] <alucardromero> Hello everybody! :)
[04:25] <semitones> Are there any advantages to using GRUB2 > Grub?
[04:25] <nwu> semitones: it just logs out suddenly, often while I'm browsing or chatting
[04:25] <haitiankid4lyf> Out_Cold: i also tried previous kernels
[04:25] <domi007> but i know my card was in the lspci list
[04:25] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: Thank you very much. ^.^
[04:25] <blakkheim> semitones: no
[04:25] <okokl> no ideas =\
[04:25] <MrUnix> domi007, And you're using ipw2200?
[04:26] <cvd> okokl,  que tu quires
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  grub2 has many newer features. and  is going to be the standard in the near future i imagine
[04:26] <domi007> yes i am trin' to use ipw2200
[04:26] <alucardromero> Are hard drives supposed to be ordered by size?
[04:26] <semitones> nwu: that's weird! you might want to keep asking here, or post a topic in the forum
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  its also got many very nice features 'in the works'
[04:26] <cvd> alucardromero,  no
[04:26] <alucardromero> Hmm.
[04:26] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, I have noticed occasionally a wifi card overheating and shutting down, this could be a possibility but not 100% positive. Unless I knew for sure what your card was or where it should be, I can only guess that it overheated or crapped out
[04:26] <okokl> cvd: i need to get vidalia working with provoxy
[04:26] <albech> mickster04, installing openssh to check
[04:26] <semitones> Dr_Willis: ok that makes sense. But how do you configure it? is it as easy as grub1?
[04:26] <Out_Cold> sorry bout the language
[04:26] <mdg> howdeep: enjoy the new install!  I gotta go - good night O/
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | semitones
[04:27] <kevin1093> i have been trying to install Ubuntu and i sucessfully installed it but now my computer stops at verifying DMI pool data. can anyone help me?
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  via its config files.. then rerun update-gruvb
[04:27] <haitiankid4lyf> Out_Cold: np thanks though ill let it sleep overnight see what happens
[04:27]  * MrUnix yawns and wonders who wants coffee...
[04:27] <mickster04> albech: cheers :D
[04:27] <hiexpo> mdg, - isnt there a small task bar here on ubuntu?
[04:27] <haitiankid4lyf> Out_Cold: thanks for your help
[04:27] <Fudge> how can i upgrade from 7.04 to 9.10 with apt-get?
[04:27] <semitones> Dr_Willis: alright, that shouldn't be too bad
[04:27] <domi007> ok MrUnix i send you virtual coffee :)
[04:27] <nwu> semitones: yeah, it's getting to be a really strange problem (happening a few times a day now). I posted it to the ubuntu forums, but no one knows why it's happening. :/
[04:27] <Out_Cold> np, good luck. hopefully it reactivates
[04:27] <alucardromero> Fudge, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:28] <semitones> Fudge: there are a series of steps.., I think
[04:28] <MrUnix> Fudge, You need to go through each release up to 9.10. Easier just to fresh install.
[04:28] <neil_d> Fudge: you got to it in steps... one upgrade at a time.
[04:28] <Billiard> Fudge: i would do a fresh install
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  one neat trick in grub2 - with the right disrto/iso file - you can set grub2 to boot ISO files  :)
[04:28] <Fudge> dist-upgrade didnt work
[04:28] <MrUnix> domi007, You're using ipw2200?
[04:28] <albech> mickster04, i have a /var/log/auth.log after installing openssh
[04:28] <MrUnix> Fudge, why not just fresh install?
[04:28] <domi007> MrUnix: yes i do
[04:28] <okokl> ayúdeme por favor
[04:28] <mickster04> albech: im looking into that now
[04:28] <Out_Cold> Fudge, agreed, back up and fresh install... too much can go wrong and IIRC you need to install 7.10>8.04>8.10>9.04>9.10
[04:28] <kevin1093> i have been trying to install Ubuntu and i sucessfully installed it but now my computer stops at verifying DMI pool data. can anyone help me?
[04:28] <semitones> Dr_Willis: so, if you have GRUB2 preinstalled, you could try out a live cd on an iso, nice
[04:28] <Fudge> friends web server, was just going to freshen it up
[04:28] <MrUnix> domi007, I think that's depreciated. Is the wireless card on? (Wireless light on/flashing?)
[04:29] <neil_d> Fudge: I think you got to use the upgrade manager from the menus.
[04:29] <semitones> Dr_Willis: is it possible to run GRUB 2 from cd?
[04:29] <MrUnix> Fudge, one moment and I'll PM the steps.
[04:29] <hiexpo> i suggest downloading the dvd and do a fresh install buts thats just my pref
[04:29] <Fudge> thank you
[04:29] <rww> !eol
[04:29] <domi007> MrUnix: lshw doesn't say anything aboiut "radio off" and in BIOS the card is on
[04:29] <rww> see second link
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  i made a usb flash drive with 4+ different isos on it - i can boot fro,m :) and i got a special entry in my desktpps menus to boot ubuntu.iso as a 'failsafe' option as well
[04:29] <alucardromero> okokl: Ay otro chat para problemas en espanol.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  i think grub2 will eventually replace syslinux and isolinux on cd's
[04:29] <rww> !es
[04:29] <MrUnix> domi007, How about your wireless light on the computer? Do you have one?
[04:29] <wish^> i got an wubi ubuntu install on a vista machine and now i wanna get rid of vista..can i do that without using a cd
[04:30] <semitones> Dr_Willis: that is pretty neat
[04:30] <nwu> maybe I'll ask again later
[04:30] <neil_d> I need help bad!  I have a mdadm RAID1 setup, using 2 SATA drives.. when I remove a HDD (for testing) /dev/md0 isn't setup correctly... I need to get this working
[04:30] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[04:30] <domi007> MrUnix: i have one, but it doesn't work (i think it never ever has worked)
[04:30] <semitones> nwu: lots of times people on the forums can help with more complicated problems. Good luck!
[04:30] <jm2> kevin: retry installing ubuntu ..
[04:30] <okokl> =)
[04:30] <MrUnix> joh6nn, DHCP or Static?
[04:30] <nwu> semitones: thanks
[04:31] <joh6nn> MrUnix: dhcp
[04:31] <mickster04>  Failed none for mike from <IP_ADDRESS> port 1391 ssh2
[04:31] <kevin1093> well when i put the hard driv into another computer it works fine
[04:31] <MrUnix> joh6nn, Through a router?
[04:31] <mickster04> albech:  Failed none for mike from <IP_ADDRESS> port 1391 ssh2
[04:31] <neil_d> can you boot from a PCI raid card that uses a fakeraid driver?
[04:31] <atechz> Hi guys my xubuntu 9.10 sound is very low, I checked the settings already and no luck, any ideas. useing intel D631GL Essential, built in sound, no sound cards
[04:31] <albech> mickster04, just made it work on a ubuntu box here np
[04:31] <nwu> on another note, anyone know why pidgin might be crashing?
[04:31] <joh6nn> MrUnix: yes.  but other nodes on the lan have normal speeds
[04:31] <wish^> i got an wubi ubuntu install on a vista machine and now i wanna get rid of vista..can i do that without using a cd
[04:31] <Out_Cold> semitones, the difference between there and here is that this chat has more immediate results where as the forums, you only have to paste your problem once ;)
[04:31] <MrUnix> domi007, Hmmm (i'm looking)
[04:31] <mickster04> albech: with putty?
[04:31] <nwu> syslog shows this: Jan 23 15:33:55 neal-desktop pulseaudio[7535]: ratelimit.c: 88 events suppressed
[04:31] <nwu> Jan 23 15:33:56 neal-desktop kernel: [20930.683431] __ratelimit: 3 callbacks suppressed
[04:31] <nwu> Jan 23 15:33:56 neal-desktop kernel: [20930.683443] pidgin[7662]: segfault at a ip 00ccf0fc sp bff8b990 error 4 in libc-2.10.1.so[c64000+13e000]
[04:31] <domi007> MrUnix: thanks a lot
[04:31] <albech> mickster04, which user you logging in as?
[04:31] <MrUnix> joh6nn, Wireless?
[04:31] <joh6nn> MrUnix: yes
[04:31] <MrUnix> I think you said that...
[04:31] <MrUnix> (my bad)
[04:32] <jm2> kevin1093: have you tried googling this error?
[04:32] <semitones> Out_Cold: that, and people with the experience might not be on the chat right now :)
[04:32] <MrUnix> You got ports/dmz/etc open?
[04:32] <mickster04> albech i am tryin to log on a "mike"
[04:32] <Out_Cold> semitones, hence the repitition of asking
[04:32] <Shazam> is songbird in the 9.10 repositories?
[04:32] <semitones> yes
[04:32] <albech> mickster04, make sure that the authorized_keys is in the ~/.ssh/authorized.keys
[04:32] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: My /etc/default/grub is read-only.  how do i rectify this? i can't find it in the grub wiki
[04:32] <albech> mickster04, and not in root
[04:32] <semitones> Out_Cold: and the frustration of getting ignored :)
[04:32] <Out_Cold> !info songbird
[04:32] <okokl> think i got it =p
[04:32] <semitones> :(
[04:32] <joh6nn> MrUnix: everything should be open.  i'm typing from the affected box
[04:33] <mickster04> /home/mike/.ssh/authorised_keys excists and has stuff in it
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  its a system file.. (logical eh?) so you have to alter it as root. via sudo
[04:33] <okokl> I GOT IT
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  back it up BEFOR you alter it.
[04:33] <kevin1093> Jm2 i have tried googleing the error and i have follwed everything but to no avail
[04:33] <wish^> i got an wubi ubuntu install on a vista machine and now i wanna get rid of vista..can i do that without using a cd
[04:33] <albech> mickster04, let me fire up a windows and try putty
[04:33] <Out_Cold> semitones, i like getting ignored... means that no one has had the issues i have... almost like discovering a new land lol
[04:33] <semitones> heh
[04:33] <mickster04> albech: cheers
[04:34] <MrUnix> joh6nn, Try power cycling them, then checking your driver versions.
[04:34] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: thank you.
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  dident try out that LVPM tool ?
[04:34] <albech> mickster04, did you find the log file?
[04:34] <cvd> wish^,  whana install w7?
[04:34] <MrUnix> domi007, Did you try this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156930
[04:34] <Out_Cold> or its such an idiotic question that they are ignoring me because of sheer retardation on my part
[04:34] <joh6nn> MrUnix: power has been cycled, drivers are the most recent versions available from the backports repo
[04:34] <mickster04> albech: yeah
[04:34] <albech> mickster04, ok
[04:34] <mickster04> albech: it just says  Failed none for mike from <IP_ADDRESS> port 1391 ssh2
[04:34] <zomfgcrazy> what is the 'open in gedit' command?
[04:34] <cvd> Out_Cold,  wana be my friend?
[04:35] <mickster04> albech: an some other stuff ubv.
[04:35] <wish^> I wanna keep ubuntu on
[04:35] <Billiard> zomfgcrazy: gedit filename
[04:35] <zomfgcrazy> Billiard: thank you.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[04:35] <MrUnix> joh6nn, lspci | pastebin and post the link.
[04:35] <Out_Cold> cvd, i usually have friends in the real world although I don't mind helping out in here every now and again
[04:35] <lifestream> Hmm.... isn't there a command that lets me print the ... say, last 5 lines of a file?  I thought it was 'cat', but I man-ned it, and it doesn't seem like it
[04:35] <domi007> MrUnix: ust a sec, i check my driver's version, but it is a fresh and updated 9.10 installation, they should be up to date, shouldn't they?
[04:35] <Shazam> music jukebox preferences? Looking for something that can handle a lot of tracks well, and maybe a predictive reccomendation system
[04:35] <mickster04> albech: and Failed publickey for mike from <IP_ADDRESS> port 1391 ssh2
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  you need to run the editor as root with gksudo to alter system files.. BACKUP THAT FILE first.. :)
[04:36] <Billiard> lifestream: tail
[04:36] <semitones> zomfgcrazy: and if it's protected, gksudo gedit <filename>
[04:36] <blakkheim> or sudo vi
[04:36] <lifestream> Thanks Billiard ! *smacks forehead :)
[04:36] <MrUnix> domi007, Depends on which versions got in before the freeze.
[04:36] <albech> mickster04, there we go
[04:36] <cvd> Out_Cold, in the real world?, what world is this?
[04:36] <joh6nn> MrUnix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/361731/
[04:36] <MrUnix> I went outside once. The graphics were terribad.
[04:36] <domi007> MrUnix: I got 1.2.2, latest package for karmic koala
[04:36] <kevin1093>  Jm2 i have tried googleing the error and i have follwed everything but to no avail
[04:37] <mickster04> albech: well i knew it failed! thats why it isnt working...i wanna know why? when i create fresh ones its the same problem
[04:37] <semitones> lifestream: tail -f to follow, also
[04:37] <Out_Cold> cvd, this is the magical land of nix, where dragons fly out of nmap builds and no matter how hard you try, your system never really works 100%
[04:37] <albech> mickster04, 2 sec
[04:37] <jm2> kevin1093:  a old ubuntu thread suggested to check CMOS battery??
[04:37] <lifestream> semitones, to follow? You mean, to print as the file changes?
[04:37] <albech> mickster04, can you do it from command line?
[04:37] <mickster04> albech: can i do what?
[04:37] <kevin1093> so try a new battery?
[04:37] <albech> mickster04, try ssh -l mike localhost
[04:37] <semitones> lifestream: yeah, like if you're using it on a log file that's being added to
[04:37] <cvd> :-)
[04:38] <albech> mickster04, from the server
[04:38] <semitones> lifestream: -f keeps you updated with the latest changes
[04:38] <mickster04> albech: ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[04:38] <lifestream> semitones, It's actually a conky TODO script, so that's pretty useful! Thanks :)
[04:38] <NNxD> hi people
[04:38] <semitones> lifestream: glad to be of use :)
[04:38] <albech> mickster04, and you are on the server with sshd running?
[04:38] <okokl> hey what do you guys think is better Privoxy or polipo?
[04:38] <NNxD> I have a problem with my pc
[04:39] <NNxD> I know it's offtopic but...
[04:39] <mickster04> albech: i change theport to 2222 hang on
[04:39] <q0_0p> !codecs
[04:39] <wish^> thanks willis
[04:39] <albech> mickster04, try ssh -l mike -p 2222 localhost
[04:39] <domi007> okay, MrUNix left, i need help from someone else
[04:39] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: Backed up. ^.^
[04:39] <wish^> that seems to do the trick
[04:39] <NNxD> I was cleaning my PC and now my mobo doesn't start
[04:39] <mickster04> albech what do u wana see it worked....
[04:39] <Eltume>  the company AVADirect http://www.avadirect.com/ sells linux preinstalled but it also mentions there is "no media, no support" for these linux distros. What do they mean by "no media"???
[04:39] <domi007> my intel 2915abg wifi card doesn't work, the ipw2200 says in dmesg: unable to load ucode: -22
[04:39] <albech> mickster04, and it didnt ask for a password?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  they dont include a cd/dvd i imagine
[04:39] <scunizi> NNxD: does it beep a lot?
[04:39] <rww> Eltume: I imagine it means they don't give you an install disc with the computer
[04:40] <NNxD> I know it's the mobo because I tested the other components
[04:40] <NNxD> scunizi: it doesn't beep
[04:40] <mickster04> albech: it asks if i want to continue connecting:/
[04:40] <Billiard> NNxD: this is offtopic, did you unplug any cables, power cables?
[04:40] <NNxD> Billiard: nope
[04:40] <mickster04> albech: it asks for a password
[04:40] <neil_d> does anyone know if you could boot from drives attached to this http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/73454/HARD_DISK_CONTROLLERS_SERIAL_ATA_RAID_CONTROLLERS/Adaptec/AAR1220SA-SGL.asp?
[04:40] <scunizi> NNxD: when you try to turn it on does it do anything? lights, clicks, etc?
[04:40] <Eltume> that's all? I thought they mean't like the graphic card might not work.
[04:40] <domi007> my intel 2915abg wifi card doesn't work, the ipw2200 says in dmesg: unable to load ucode: -22
[04:41] <NNxD> it doesn't get to the POST
[04:41] <mickster04> albech: i am still allowing passwords so i can still access it:/
[04:41] <albech> mickster04, pm
[04:41] <Billiard> NNxD: does it show any signs of having power?
[04:41] <jm2> kevin1093: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382577 check this link might help??
[04:41] <cvd> ubuntu is in facebook?
[04:41] <rww> Eltume: that's how I interpret it. I imagine you should ask them ;)
[04:41] <Eltume> man. why couldn't they just say no linux disc
[04:41] <void_pointer> NNxD, how exactly did you "clean" it
[04:41] <NNxD> yes, it's powered
[04:41] <Eltume> rww, don't worry i did
[04:41] <scunizi> NNxD: my first guess is that it isn't your motherboard but your power supply.. that's typically what goes out..
[04:42] <domi007> i rellay need help my intel 2915abg wifi card doesn't work, the ipw2200 says in dmesg: unable to load ucode: -22
[04:42] <okokl> whats up crackheadjunky
[04:42] <semitones> NNxD: best thing imo is open it back up and see if anything is not how it should be
[04:42] <og01> hey does ubuntu/gdm still use ~/.xsession?
[04:42] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> need a little atheros help. since updating, my ubuntu 9.10 drops my wireless connection once in a while. suggestions?
[04:42] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> hey okokl
[04:42] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> okokl, hi
[04:42] <wowoto>  can anyone tell me ,is there any channel just for chat ,chat for fun ,chat for daily live
[04:43] <rww> wowoto: #ubuntu-offtopic, #defocus, probably more
[04:43] <okokl> you know where i can cop a 5 ?
[04:43] <domi007> HELP, i need help my intel 2915abg wifi card doesn't work, the ipw2200 says in dmesg: unable to load ucode: -22
[04:43] <wowoto> rww: thx
[04:43] <NNxD> the hdd, the dvd recorder and all other hw runs
[04:43] <Billiard> NNxD: the power supply works with another machine?
[04:43] <scunizi> NNxD: have you tried to reset your bios back to "default"?
[04:44] <okokl> come on bro don't hold out on me
[04:44] <okokl> i know your holding
[04:44] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> okokl, a 5?
[04:44] <og01> hey for somereason my ~/.xsession isnt geting executed, anything i should know?
[04:44] <okokl> yea
[04:44] <NNxD> void_pointer: with a toothbrush..
[04:44] <domi007> has anyone succeded using ipw2200 in 9.10 (karmic koala)?
[04:44] <okokl> well lets make it a 20
[04:44] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> okokl, lol
[04:45] <void_pointer> Ok. You cleaned your mobo with a toothbrush and now it doesn't work
[04:45] <NNxD> Billiard: I tested the power supply, memory and cpu. all works
[04:45] <rww> ubottu: ot | okokl
[04:45] <joh6nn> CRACKHEADJUNKY: what's your wifi card?
[04:45] <okokl> a 20 piece
[04:45] <NNxD> scunizi: yep
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  thers always a chanve that some ahrdware might not work properly/correctly with Linux. :) it depends on the hardware.
[04:45] <NNxD> scunizi: it doesn't work
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  i imagine they slap linux on it and ship it...
[04:45] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[04:45] <scunizi> NNxD: time for a new motherboard.. this time leave the toothbrush in the cup in the bathroom :)
[04:45] <okokl> joh6nn bro he pawned his wifi along time ago
[04:45] <Billiard> og01: im not positive, but maybe it needs to be executable
[04:46] <og01> Billiard: yeah tried that already :/
[04:46] <okokl> sold it for like 2 dollars
[04:46] <NNxD> scunizi: :(
[04:46] <NNxD> I wanna repair it
[04:46] <joh6nn> CRACKHEADJUNKY: i'm having wifi issues with 9.10 too
[04:46] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> okokl, lol
[04:46] <MaT-dg> is there a permanent fix for the flash left-click problem already?
[04:46] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> joh6nn, its weird... all of a sudden it drops my connection.
[04:46] <void_pointer> NNxD, don't clean your mobo with a toothbrush next time. There are many things you could have done
[04:47] <CRACKHEADJUNKY> joh6nn, it wont reconnect either without rebooting...
[04:47] <void_pointer> NNxD, however, it is very amusing. I thank you for that.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> MaT-dg:  ive seen several forum posts and sites with fix's for it.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> MaT-dg:  ive never had the issue.
[04:47] <lucas_> que buena cerveza que me mande la puta madre..
[04:47] <joh6nn> CRACKHEADJUNKY: it's got my connection speeds through the floor; last night, as i was trying to download some packages, it told me it was going to take at least an hour to download a 50 M package
[04:47] <deena> Hi my system is downloading something is there anyway to find out what is getting download?
[04:47] <rww> !pt | lucas_
[04:47] <NNxD> lucas_: ubuntu-es
[04:48] <NNxD> void_pointer: haha np
[04:48] <lucas_> ok no se calienten
[04:48] <MaT-dg> Dr_Willis: only fix I found doesn't work
[04:48] <lifestream> lucas_ needs a bannnnnnn
[04:48] <rww> oh, yeah, Argentina is Spanish *facepalm*
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> MaT-dg:  ive seen sites that list at least 5 different fix's
[04:48] <cvd> deena,  updates?
[04:48] <NNxD> lucas_: sabes reparar mothers?
[04:48] <domi007> my intel 2915abg wifi card doesn't work, the ipw2200 says in dmesg: unable to load ucode: -22 :(
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> MaT-dg:  rangeing from disabling compiz, or spcific plugins.. to using some flash scripts...
[04:48] <Eltume> Dr-Willis, lol. I think they should mention have a list of linux certified hardware like hp if they don't really want to support it.
[04:48] <zomfgcrazy> I set GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub via gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub, rebooted into winxp and upon restart it default booted back into Ubuntu.  Have I overlooked something?
[04:48] <lucas_> si que nececitas capo
[04:49] <Billiard> deena: maybe `sudo lsof -i`
[04:49] <NNxD> well, thanks people
[04:49] <LucidGuy> Anyone know how to jailbreak or unlock an iphone with a linux machine?
[04:49] <rww> LucidGuy: Providing instructions for jailbreaking is of questionable legality and thus offtopic for Ubuntu channels.
[04:49] <cvd> LucidGuy,  is wine
[04:49] <cvd> use wine
[04:49] <lucas_> nww no me rompas la pc q es la unica q tengo
[04:50] <NNxD> thanks Billiard scunizi void_pointer
[04:50] <void_pointer> NNxD, haha np. I didn't help much
[04:50] <rww> lucas_: This channel is English-only. For discussion in Spanish, please /join #ubuntu-es
[04:51] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[04:51] <domi007> my intel 2915abg wifi card doesn't work, the ipw2200 says in dmesg: unable to load ucode: -22
[04:51] <lucas_> rww, ok
[04:51] <cvd> rww,  whats the problem, you dont understand? the dont talking with you
[04:51] <rww> cvd: Excuse me?
[04:51] <Billiard> domi007: which ubuntu version?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  the term 'support' is rather broad and means different things to different companies/people
[04:52] <domi007> Billiard: 9.10
[04:52] <lifestream> cvd, lucas_     #ubuntu is to help people.    #ubuntu is not for random chat
[04:52] <Billiard> domi007: does it wokr on the live cd?
[04:52] <domi007> Billiard: latest, updated, fresh
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  im not even sure how you 'certify' hardware for linux
[04:52] <domi007> Billiard: i am not sure, i used wubi
[04:53] <ultraparadigm> I'm really liking kvirc
[04:53] <Eltume> Dr.Willis, "certified" hardware for linux is hardware that works out of the box especially 3d graphic cards and wifi cards
[04:53] <Billiard> domi007: idk, i dont like wubi
[04:53] <cvd> ok
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  tahts your definition of the term..    certified by who exactly? its just sounds like more marketing buzzwords to me.
[04:54] <domi007> Billiard: okay, i see your point, but why would a livecd make a difference?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  theres people in here constantly with hardware that is supposed to work.. but has issues.. :)
[04:54] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, Eltume, tried and tested is a better statement
[04:54] <Billiard> domi007: i was just wondering if it worked on the live cd to see if somehow your install was the problem, i havent had any problems with intel wireless devices
[04:54] <NotTooSmart> is 500 a good permission for a dir contaiting other dir's containing music files I dont ever want deleted ?
[04:55] <Eltume> that's what makes me want to buy open hardware instead
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  that site only seem to sell  redhat and suse
[04:55] <domi007> Billiard: i can't try out a livecd
[04:55] <Billiard> NotTooSmart: if you only want the owner to have read permission
[04:55] <Billiard> domi007: ok
[04:56] <Eltume> dr.willis, AVADirect also offer Ubuntu in addition to redhat and suse
[04:56] <Out_Cold> Eltume, not a bad idea if you are using linux only, but just use well supported hardware
[04:56] <NotTooSmart> Billiard: I think that would make sense since I connect using the same user in samba, and the same user via MPD
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Eltume:  well they dont have ubuntu boxed sets :) like they do redhat/suse.. but that may be because thre is not the same thing :)
[04:56] <Eltume> out_cold, the only downside to open hardware is the limited choice
[04:56] <ultraparadigm> Well on this new laptop I decided to dual but Ubuntu and Win7 right off tha bat.  And sofar, as for ease of use, Ubuntu is winning
[04:57] <Eltume> redhat and suse seem to be popular among companies
[04:57] <TMK> Hi All.  I'm in great need of some new hardware and I'd like to get a little advice for an Ubuntu desktop.  I've been running it on an old Dell Inspiron, but would like to get something decent.
[04:57] <Billiard> NotTooSmart: you cant create new dirs/files in that directory then either
[04:57] <semitones> ultraparadigm: nice. what do you like about it especially
[04:57] <Out_Cold> Eltume, agreed, but if thousands of users sent emails to manufacturers then maybe we'd have better choice
[04:57] <ultraparadigm> Other than games, that were made for windows, I have had 0 hassle in Ubuntu.  Everything works, even things that didn't work right in windows like my web cam and bluetooth
[04:57] <NotTooSmart> Billiard: my user can though yes?
[04:57] <semitones> ah, kk :)
[04:57] <ultraparadigm> Me = happy
[04:58] <Billiard> NotTooSmart: no
[04:58] <NotTooSmart> Billiard: what is a good bet between safety/security ?
[04:58] <blakkheim> TMK: build it
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> That site charges $11 to install ubuntu. :)
[04:58] <TMK> I'd love to build it actually.  Got any recommendations for HW?
[04:58] <NotTooSmart> Billiard: 644?
[04:58] <Vladimir_> Hello everyone! I'm going to try Ubuntu and wanted to know how it performs as far as BitTorrent in concerned. Is Transmission a good, stable BT client/? Will I have problems with bandwidth/firewall limitations or issues?
[04:58] <blakkheim> TMK: avoid ati, that's about it for linux-related recommendations
[04:59] <blakkheim> Vladimir_: i prefer rtorrent but transmission is ok too
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Vladimir_:  transmissions is a rather basic BT client.
[04:59] <Billiard> NotTooSmart: you want x on the directories
[04:59] <TMK> nvidia's better I take it?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Vladimir_:  it depends on what extra features you need.
[04:59] <blakkheim> TMK: yes
[04:59] <ultraparadigm> Vladimir, I don't use torrents, but give Ubuntu a try anyway.  It's worked out great for me so far
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Vladimir_:  ive been using qTorrent lately - it works very well for me
[04:59] <semitones> Vladimir_: transmission is pretty fast and works very well
[04:59] <TMK> ok.  Thanks.
[05:00] <domi007> Billiard: any other idea?
[05:00] <ultraparadigm> I work for the cable company, and torrents are like cuse words. lol
[05:00] <Tanthrix> Is there a clever way to view all installed packages listed by catagory in Synaptic?
[05:00] <semitones> Vladimir_: Transmission has the best GUI/features/speed combination, imo
[05:00] <Vladimir_> Thanks... will see how Transmission works out. I'm currently using uTorrent...
[05:00] <TMK> where's my DOCSIS 3.0? :)
[05:00] <Billiard> domi007: i have no idea if wubi could cause issues like this, otherwise i have no idea
[05:01] <ultraparadigm> My compay has it
[05:01] <domi007> Billiard: i reinsattled the ipw2200 package..no success
[05:01] <ultraparadigm> company* rather
[05:01] <Vladimir_> Will Ubuntu play Blu-ray movies? I have a Blu-ray drive?
[05:01] <TMK> i think mine has it...but it would be about 99 a month for the service.
[05:01] <domi007> Billiard: however when I frist booted in with the older kernel (i think it is 2.6.30-14) i had the card OK, but it didn't see any networks....could this indicate that i have a hardware problem?
[05:02] <blakkheim> Vladimir_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[05:02] <Billiard> domi007: well it could be, but that could be a driver issue too
[05:02] <Vladimir_> thanks for the link, blakkheim
[05:02] <semitones> ultraparadigm: why don't cable companies like them? Wouldn't they get ppl to buy more expensive plans? for more bandwidth?
[05:04] <domi007> Billiard: ok, i don't know....the laptop i am using is really weird..sometimes it starts ok when i press the power, sometimes it kinda hangs before the BIOS POST screen...i really don't know, and i don't have a screwdriver for it, so i can't even open it :(
[05:04] <cvd> we pay for something that we can use all the bandwidth we pay
[05:04] <ultraparadigm> Torrents cause lag for everyone sharing the node of the user who is using them.  Because cable uses shared bandwidth, torrents can slow the whole nighboorhood
[05:05] <Shazam> how do I get a partition to mount upon boot. I *believe* I have a correct fstab entry, but, well its not there when I boot. Is there anything else I would need to do?
[05:05] <abu123> hi on my I got "E: Type '“ndeb' is not known on line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list" this errror
[05:05] <ultraparadigm> It's just one of those things, we get a call "my internet is slow."  Sorry sir, it's because your nieghbor is using a zillian torrents. "I don't care, fix it!"  Puts us in an awkward position
[05:05] <Billiard> Shazam: does the mountpoint exist?
[05:05] <abu123> how I repair this error
[05:05] <semitones> ultraparadigm: I'll take that, but what's the difference between dling torrents and watching netflix?
[05:05] <Billiard> Shazam: run "sudo mount -a" check for errors
[05:05] <Shazam> Billiard: yes. in fact, when i mount it from terminal it works
[05:05] <Shazam> k
[05:06] <TeamColtra> semitones, nothing... although you probably have a smaller filesize from netflix
[05:06] <semitones> ultraparadigm: because it doesn't seem that fair to tell the torrent user, hey, ok you paid for this bandwidth, but please, don't use it...
[05:06] <TeamColtra> and honestly cable companies can suck it, they have enough bandwidth for everyone... they just say that so they can pump more money out of you
[05:06] <TeamColtra> How can I do a math problem in terminal? I remember doing it before but i forget now
[05:06] <iflema> abu123 gksu gedit in a terminal an look at the begigining of each line till ya find the one that says ndeb and remoive the n then save and do sudo apt-get update
[05:07] <sage1> Hi. Is it possible to use the keyboard volume controls to manage 2+ sound channels? I can't find anything about it.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> TeamColtra:  try the 'bc' command
[05:07] <semitones> ultraparadigm: imo, people should be charged by how much they dl/up. that would be more fair
[05:07] <blakkheim> iflema: why gedit when he's already in a terminal? vi or nano :/
[05:07] <TeamColtra> File 1+1 is unavailable.
[05:07]  * iflema what ever...... novie = geedit
[05:07] <allyourbass> hello all, would anyone like to help me tackle a problem with my auto mounting of usb drives?
[05:07] <iflema> novis
[05:08] <blakkheim> novis?
[05:08] <blakkheim> novice you mean?
[05:08]  * iflema yes
[05:08] <allyourbass> pretty please
[05:08] <priya> hi all
[05:09] <Quan-Time> anyone know anythintg about installing madwifi drivers ? not in my repository..ideas / links ?
[05:09]  * iflema one handed with mouth full talking looking left
[05:09] <blakkheim> Quan-Time: i use madwifi :)
[05:09] <Billiard> allyourbass: what is the prob?
[05:09] <domi007> good bye everyone
[05:09] <allyourbass> well ive got a fresh install of 9.10
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> allyourbass:  every so often the automounting 'breaks' for me - untill i logout, or reboot..
[05:09] <allyourbass> xubuntu
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> allyourbass:  not sure why it does it
[05:10] <Shazam> Billiard: so, in fact your intuition was correct. error says, mount point does exist. should my mountpoint be an empty directory? what permissions do I need
[05:10] <allyourbass> when i plug my device in
[05:10] <ultraparadigm> Good question.  People who really abuse the heck out ot torrents can suck up alot more bandwidth than netflix, and at a constant rate, where as netflix is not going to be constant and over night and all day long.
[05:10] <Quan-Time> blakkheim: how you do it ?
[05:10] <cvd> why the ubuntu cd dont have a boot repair option?
[05:10] <cvd> like the others OS
[05:10] <blakkheim> Quan-Time: dl the source, compile, install, set module to autoload, blacklist ath5k
[05:10] <Billiard> Shazam: you mean "mount point doesnt exist" ?
[05:10] <Fezzler> In Update Manager, I have a file/package shown but faded out - I can't select it or delete it that I know of?  How do I "clear" it?
[05:10] <semitones> cvd: what would it do?
[05:10] <allyourbass> i get this http://pastebin.com/m2b1143a
[05:10] <zomfgcrazy> how does one access the menu/window where one modifies 3d box rotation settings etc.?
[05:10] <Billiard> Shazam: yea an empty directory, permissions shouldnt matter
[05:10] <Quan-Time> blakkheim: ath9k in my setup.. ok.. see what i can do
[05:11] <cvd> semitones, repair the boot?
 Good question.  People who really abuse the heck out ot torrents can suck up alot more bandwidth than netflix, and at a constant rate <-- I am pretty sure that its not "abusing" and its actually "using them correctly"
[05:11] <semitones> cvd: specifics?
[05:11] <allyourbass> i cant get it to automount for the life of me
[05:11] <allyourbass> but i can get it to go manually
[05:11] <ultraparadigm> lol
[05:12] <franc> !spanish
[05:12] <cvd> semitones,  are you kiding?
[05:12] <ultraparadigm> true
[05:12] <Fezzler> The package is "glade-gnome
[05:12] <semitones> no, that's a broad problem that could mean a lot of things
[05:12] <Quan-Time> blakkheim: hmm.. wheres the madwifi source ?
[05:12] <sage1> Hi. Does anyone know if it's possible to control multiple sound tracks like Master, LFE, and PCM properly in 9.10?
[05:12] <zig_> Strange.. aptitude install tor doesn't seem to work.
[05:13] <blakkheim> Quan-Time: i can upload the source i use, i forgot where i originally got the snapshot :/
[05:14] <EastDallas> TeamColtra: for math in a terminal try: 3+3 | bc
[05:14] <semitones> is there a way to make GNOME more lightweight?
[05:14] <martinovich_> I have a mystery to solve
[05:15] <Quan-Time> blakkheim: yer.. ive seen like 4 different guides all showing 4 different things.. and  cant get any source
[05:15] <TeamColtra> sh: 3+3: not found
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> cvd:  actually thats been discussed as a feature for the next release
[05:15] <martinovich_> my wifi connexion on the net book works but the pages are not loading or very very slow
[05:15] <EastDallas> TeamColtra: you are entering the command just like this: 3
[05:16] <Billiard> TeamColtra: echo 3+3 | bc
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> cvd:  how about a 'magically fix everuything option' also :)
[05:16] <EastDallas> TeamColtra: 3+3 | bc
[05:16] <semitones> Dr_Willis: is that real? like a troubleshooter?
[05:16] <TeamColtra> sh: 3+3: not found
[05:16] <Fezzler> Do I clear and uninstallable package in Update Manager via Synaptic?
[05:16] <TeamColtra> 6
[05:16] <TeamColtra> :D YAY
[05:16] <TeamColtra> echo!
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  i recall the 'bullet proof X' thing they tired a few releases back.. notice its not around any more that ive seen
[05:16] <EastDallas> TeamColtra: Billiard is right.  I left out the echo 'echo 3+3 | bc'
[05:17] <abu123> thank you I flema
[05:17] <semitones> Dr_Willis: never heard of it, but I get the idea :P
[05:17] <TeamColtra> EastDallas, you have failed me for the last time
[05:17]  * TeamColtra force choaks
[05:17] <TeamColtra> :P
[05:17]  * iflema vi = 6
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  yea - it caused more issues whtn it fixed i think
[05:17] <cvd> Dr_Willis, always late
[05:17] <abu123> I flema: Thank you soo much
[05:18] <semitones> Dr_Willis: cvd: the whole live-cd is basically an everything-fixer
[05:18] <iflema> abu123 no worries... sorry for the typos and lake of direction....
[05:18] <abu123> :)
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  yep. - i rember when a live-cd was a Fancy new fangled feature. :)
[05:18] <JohninLEx> how do you check a HD copy that you have done dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda
[05:19] <semitones> Dr_Willis: when you had to decide between an install cd and a live cd :)
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> semitones:  i recall when there was NO live cd to even decide btween
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:19] <sage1> Is it possible to control multiple volume channels using the keyboard volume controls? I haven't found anything in the past hour and a half :|
[05:19] <semitones> Dr_Willis: lol -- didn't dapper have a live cd?
[05:19] <bouma> hello im having some feature shock with the transition from 9.04 to 9.10 and was wondering if someone could have me configure it so that the way im used to having things setup will work???
[05:19] <JohninLEx> how do you check a HD copy that you have done with dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda
[05:20] <grayhane> my motherboard will take SATA or IDE hard drives, if I install one of each, can I select which one is the master ?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> jonathan3:  you could md5 sum both of them.
[05:20] <bouma> 1st why is the workspace switcher sooooo short.. ie not tall
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  you mean why is it wide. :)
[05:21] <bouma> if you put it on a panel with more room is stays tiny... like several pixels high
[05:21] <bouma> no i want to to use up more vertical space
[05:21] <Out_Cold> i was looking in the man pages, how would you use apt-get build-dep on source that you have downloaded from packages.ubuntu?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  you just want it bigger.. niot showing more desktops..
[05:21] <Billiard> Out_Cold: i beleive you do apt-get build-dep packagename
[05:22] <bouma> Dr_willis: yes, i always just have 3x3 desktops.. but iwont use more vertical space than about 16px the 9.04 version was different it could be square
[05:22] <Out_Cold> not sure why i didn't think of that. thanks Billiard
[05:23] <Out_Cold> i would ./configure one by one until now :o/
[05:23] <bouma> Dr_Willis, and you cant use the mouse wheel to cycle through the desktops
[05:24] <cjones> whats a good ap to convert strip audio out of a flv convert it in to wav
[05:24] <allyourbass> this automount crab is starting to piss me off
[05:24] <Billiard> cjones: ffmpeg
[05:24] <allyourbass> crap*
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  i got 2 wide screen monitors now - I dont use many desktops any more
[05:24] <Out_Cold> bouma, you have to click the background with the mouse wheel, then drag left or right
[05:24] <bouma> Dr_Willis, the new workspace switcher is useless
[05:24]  * Dr_Willis rembers when  external media dident 'auto mount' at all. :)
[05:24]  * Dr_Willis is old
[05:25]  * ubuntu is old
[05:25] <git__> i get confused using more than 1 desktop
[05:25] <bouma> Out_Cold, what does that help me with? to move it on the panel, or to resize it ?
[05:25] <Out_Cold> bouma, i also think that ctrl + alt and mouse scroll changes windows
[05:25] <git__> my computer is not powerful enough
[05:25] <ultraparadigm> I love my 4 desktops.  Sometimes I just relax and watch them spin around!
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. if i make my Panel 45 pixles tall. the workspace switcher grows to fill up all 45 pixles
[05:26] <bouma> Out_Cold, no ctr-al + wheel does not
[05:26] <Out_Cold> bouma, if you have compiz settings configured, you grab the desktop with the middle mouse and rotate your cube.
[05:26] <cjones> filliard whats the frontend for that
[05:26] <Out_Cold> bouma, you may have to set it to do so in compiz-config
[05:26] <sage1> So no one knows anything about controlling the volume in 9.10?
[05:26] <cjones> billiard whats the frontend for that
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> compiz Does do the virutaldesktop  differently then metacity does.
[05:27] <Billiard> cjones: idk i dont use one just do something like "ffmpeg -i file.flv -vn out.wav" faster easier than a frontend
[05:27] <JohninLEx> how do you check a HD copy that you have done dd  if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda
[05:27] <cvd> sage1, like windows 7 do?
[05:27] <semitones> sage1: works as expected, I guess
[05:27] <cjones> billiard thanks so much
[05:27] <Billiard> cjones: np
[05:27] <ultraparadigm> Sage,1, you have a volume question?
[05:27] <bouma> Out_cold, Dr_willis, ok ive fixed both issues, by turning "visual effects" to none. but imho i should be able to have visual effects on "some" and still have a non buggy desktop switcher app.. so this is definately a BUG
[05:28] <cvd> ultraparadigm,  a mixer volume
[05:28] <Billiard> JohninLEx: you could use cmp, i beleive the command is called
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  using NONE =  You are now using metacituy not compiz.
[05:28] <Fezzler> I have an update in my Update Manager but I can't do anything with it.  It is "grayed out".  How do I get ride of it?
[05:28] <Out_Cold> bouma, ati card?
[05:28] <sage1> My laptop has Master, LFE, and PCM tracks. I need a way to control multiple channels.
[05:28] <ultraparadigm> My lappy has a touchresponsive volume slider, I just drag my finger across and it shows on the screen.
[05:28] <ultraparadigm> hmmmm
[05:28] <ultraparadigm> I see
[05:28] <ultraparadigm> Yes I need to get an ad vanced mixer too
[05:28] <semitones> sage1: right click on the icon?
[05:28] <sage1> In Arch I could edit a setting in gconf-editor and I could control multiple channels.
[05:29] <bouma> Dr_willis: ok differetnt window manager, but the taskswitcher is _completely_ differernt under the two settings
[05:29] <JohninLEx> Billiard: yea that did not work thanks anyone else please
[05:29] <ultraparadigm> I downloaded a mixer but haven't tried it yet.  I want something with reverb effects for my Karaoke
[05:29] <Billiard> JohninLEx: didnt work? what was the error?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  yes.. you even (well ised to) use CCSM to set the # of deskjtops when using compiz.. or the gnome settings to set it with using metacity.
[05:29] <MHz128> Is it possible to run MS Office 07 using Wine in a 64bit Ubuntu install?
[05:29] <bouma> D_willis, and imho under the "some" setting, the task switcher is unusable, with a tiny hight, that cannot be increased and you cant cycle with the wheel... making it _useless_.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | MHz128
[05:30] <semitones> sage1: please keep messages in the channel, but it gives me different sliders for PCM and stuff, do you not get that?
[05:30] <JohninLEx> missing operand after 'cmp' Billiard
[05:30] <Billiard> JohninLEx: what was the command you tried?
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  it enlarged to fill the panel here for me. and im using compiz.. (i think)
[05:30] <JohninLEx> cmp
[05:30] <Billiard> JohninLEx: you need to specify the partitions
[05:30] <sage1> Sorry. All it gives me is one slider. I cannot find anywhere to enable more
[05:30] <JohninLEx> duh lol Billiard
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  what is it doing exactly? I got 4x1 row of desktops and they elarge properly
[05:31] <semitones> sage1: hmm, that's odd. Maybe a screenshot would help the channel
[05:32] <bouma> Dr_Willis, ok there is definately a bug tho. this is a virgin install, 1st boot, at first the default is desktop switcher wont grow vertically, then you switch visual to "none" and it grows, and you can switch back and it stays "grown".. but ... BUG
[05:32] <sage1> Alright. Let me take a screenshot real quick.
[05:32] <bouma> Dr_Willis, perhaps i'll search to make sure its marked , it could already be patched
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  if its a new install.. you may want to update/upgrade.. it may be fixed
[05:32] <JohninLEx> thanks Billiard  that was the trick have a great night, morning, afternoon.
[05:32] <Billiard> JohninLEx: np
[05:33] <iflema> Fezzler unmet dependencies / or package conflict.... most likely unmet deps... you must have added external repos and that requires the dependencies
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  using a 3x3 desktops and the switcher works properly for me as i enlarge the panel
[05:33] <dude_> hello everyone
[05:33] <h0rnman> Hello everyone, and good morning/afternoon/evening
[05:33] <weiting> h0rnman, good afternoon~
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  at least now the  switcher settings work in compiz and meta city now. :)
[05:34] <semitones> h0rnman: good morning :0
[05:35] <Fezzler> iflema: SO how do I "clear" it
[05:35] <sage1> Well pulseaudio stopped working right :|
[05:36] <sage1> Let me relogin and I'll show you a screenshot of it.
[05:37] <bouma> Dr_willis, in case you wondered, i have had this personal desktop setup which im really used to and love since like.. using lfs before gentoo existed.. where i have a non expanding autohiding panel with only a desktop switcher on the middle right, and the window selector in the upper right, and i get rid of all bars at the bottom.. many many advantages. your eyes track down as you read leaving more realestate and content to the edge. + fl
[05:37] <bouma> ing the mouse to upper right and wheel to cycle tasks, and middle left +wheel to cycle desktops ... its nirvana for me
[05:37] <iflema> Fezzler in a terminal try try to install the greyed out app(s) and itll list whats required then...
[05:37] <bouma> ^^s/middle right/middle left
[05:39] <bouma> my theory is that the cursor stays near the upper left quadrant large%, so it involves alot less effort and its a "zero" click interfacec
[05:39] <Out_Cold> anyone have luck locking down the udp/tcp status ports for nfs?? I can't find a good solution for this
[05:39] <bouma> the wheel is mans greatest invention
[05:39] <Fezzler> iflema: seems to be working
[05:40] <Fezzler> iflema: u r genuis, that did it.  was bugging me for like 5 month
[05:41] <iflema> Fezzler i did nothing... im here waiting to give next instruction.... anyways :)
[05:42] <allyourbass> i need some help with my automount of usb volumes
[05:42] <iflema> Fezzler some times time is all thats needed... if ya can wait
[05:42] <nexx_> fstab
[05:42] <allyourbass> who wants to tackle this train wreck
[05:42] <sage1> Here is a screenshot of the preferences from right clicking on the volume control icon. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9342/soundh.png
[05:43] <sage1> I can't find anywhere to enable the controls for the extra channels.
[05:43] <allyourbass> sage1, have you tried alsamixer
[05:44] <sage1> In alsamixer I can control the channels, but that's definitely not an easy way to chance the volume.
[05:44] <bullgard> Using the "Ubuntu 9.10 Desktop Edition" CD, Ubuntu 9.10 installed a special directory ~/Templates. What is the function of this special directory?
[05:44] <lifestream> Why does my gnome-panel not show my background-image on the notification-are? I tried dragging it there, restarting gnome-panel....
[05:44] <Fezzler> iflema: what's the best beginners tool to build a script.  I record my guitar and midi keyboard a lot with Ardour.  Each time I have to start my audio interface, then Jack, then Ardour.  One click would be nicer
[05:45] <sage1> What I've been trying to accomplish is changing the volume on multiple tracks just by using the keyboard volume buttons.
[05:45] <weiting> hello, could any one here tell me :how to check the harddisk after an unexpected poweroff ?
[05:45] <Fezzler> iflema: been learning Ruby, maybe I'll use that
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  put 'templates' for files you make lots of copies of. like a 'blank letter.txt' and so on
[05:47] <iflema> Fezzler the www..... i luv guitars...
[05:47] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: Thank you for your help.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  i always delete the templates dir. :) i never use it
[05:49] <h0rnman> out of curiosity, has anyone here tried the glass windows (aka Aero Effect) effect installation on Jaunty?
[05:50] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: OK.
[05:50] <dude_> i want do update the ubuntu. what can i do?
[05:50] <hdon> hi all. in my Sound Preferences "Hardware" tab there is a drop-down list of profiles. where is this generated from? is it a config file somewhere?
[05:51] <blakkheim> dude_: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:51] <dude_> two command?
[05:51] <blakkheim> dude_: you can use that on one line and it will execute the two commands in order
[05:52] <iflema> dude_ the is update and theres upgade (new version)
[05:52] <dude_> anyone version to 9.10?
[05:53] <allyourbass> just installed 9.10 and its pissing me off
[05:54] <allyourbass> anyone else having trouble with usb drives not mounting ??
[05:54] <Blue1> allyourbass: did you do the updates?
[05:54] <allyourbass> yeah
[05:54] <allyourbass> all updates
[05:55] <Blue1> allyourbass: that fixed a lot of my issues
[05:55] <sage1> I'm on 9.10 and my USB automounts are working. I updated all the way.
[05:55]  * iflema thinks they just keep getting better......
[05:55] <allyourbass> other than this problem this is the best install of any linux ive ever had
[05:56] <sage1> This one I've had some trouble with. I've installed two older versions before and they never had any problems. Some reason this I've had some issues.
[05:57] <allyourbass> dmesg tells me this
[05:57] <allyourbass> FAT: IO charset ISO-8859-1 not found
[05:57] <Blue1> allyourbass no clue
[05:57] <allyourbass> http://pastebin.com/m2b1143a
[05:57] <allyourbass> a little more info there
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> ive had automounting issues all during beta - and it still has quirks for me.
[05:58] <Fezzler> iflema: u use Ardour?
[05:58] <elnur> hello
[05:59] <elnur> anybody?
[05:59] <hari_> hi
[05:59] <Blue1> allyourbass: my guess is that (and this is only a guess) maybe the volume label has something odd?
[05:59] <elnur> hi
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[05:59] <Out_Cold> does anyone with 9.10 have a working /etc/init.d/nfs-common script?
[05:59] <allyourbass> i can mount it manually though
[05:59] <lao5> hmm
[05:59] <iflema> Fezzler negative. oh actually not for a long time.... maybe i should check out current version.....
[05:59] <noladesi> hello
[05:59] <Fezzler> iflema: ProTools?  Do you record your playing?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Out_Cold:  i dont see one here
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> !find nfs-common
[06:00] <lao5> why do i always got some rubbish message from pidgin? am i hacked?.
[06:00] <Blue1> lao5: like?
[06:00] <Fezzler> iflema: I do but need to upgrade gear.. But Ubuntu and Jack and Ardour pretty good
[06:00] <lao5> Blue:i forgot
[06:00] <huggybeers> how do I make 9.04 see my modem
[06:01] <lao5> Blue1: i forgot.
[06:01] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, I think after like 4dozen links of searching i may have found the answer i needed... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889&page=37
[06:01] <kostkon> lao5, Tools → Privacy in pidgin
[06:02] <iflema> Fezzler no and no..... ive 17 years worth of stealing/playing others work
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Out_Cold:  great.. err. what was the question anyway?
[06:02] <lao5> kostkon: trying, thanks
[06:03] <Fezzler> iflema: thanks for help
[06:03] <Out_Cold> Dr_Willis, the original, original, original question was "how do I lock down my nfs 'status' port?"
[06:03] <Out_Cold> for iptable rules
[06:06] <Out_Cold> in that time i've learned how to do mild iptables rules, how to do nat, how to lock down almost every other dynamic port and also benefits of kerobos and much more... all because I wanted to nfs over the net :o/
[06:06] <NotTooSmart> all my memory is in the cached section in free -m 871 out of 1000mb...  986 used 14 free on a server install, what could be causing this?
[06:06] <Blue1> Out_Cold: I cheat and use webmin
[06:07] <Phoenix_CMXIV> dcloneirc
[06:07] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: linux tends to use all the memory it can find...that's normal
[06:07] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: um, no I run free -m all the time and it has never done this
[06:07] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: usually its @ about 100mb
[06:07] <Out_Cold> Blue1, eventually i want a script to run at start-up to associate wifi, then mount for media server
[06:07] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: here's what mine looks like:  Mem:   1925932k total,  1795236k used,   130696k free,    62192k buffers
[06:08] <huggybeers> I'll try later
[06:08] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: ill reboot and look, but i dont think so
[06:08] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: dunno that's been my experience
[06:08] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: ps aux doesnt show me whats using the mem either
[06:09] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: have you tried top?
[06:10] <Blue1> this eats a lot of memory:  13855 nwayno    20   0  731m 143m  28m S    1  7.6   7:27.12 firefox
[06:10] <Blue1> 7.6%
[06:11] <hari_> hi
[06:11] <hari_> i have this problem
[06:11] <hari_> Mostrar forma romanizada
[06:11] <hari_> my printer does not print when I try to print cups you see this message "Stopping Because the job scheduler could not execute a filter"
[06:11] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: top doesn't show either
[06:11] <hari_> anyone can help me
[06:12] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: well it shows what's using the memory space - so I dunno works for me
[06:12] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: now on reboot.... Mem:          1000        121        879          0         11         64
[06:12] <NotTooSmart> sory, now its 879 free
[06:13] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: linux is designed to use all the memory it finds...
[06:13] <hari_> help! help me
[06:13] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: I'm not too worried that out of 2G I have 130k free
[06:13] <iflema> NotTooSmart do you think it will eventually grind to halt... or is it super responsive regardless?
[06:13] <NotTooSmart> iflema: good point...
[06:14] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: iflema but what im saying is, it doesnt start "caching" all the memory for some time
[06:14] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: no it doesn't it takes a while
[06:14] <Guest41335> Hallo?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[06:14] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: ok, thats what I was not understanding
[06:14] <jazonknight> hi
[06:15] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: I've been up for 2 days.  Homer         up    2+00:43,     0 users,  load 2.82, 3.10, 3.12
[06:15] <NotTooSmart> ok?
[06:15] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: yeah memory useage is normal
[06:15] <jazonknight> what yall been doing?
[06:15] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: i was wondering for awhile if ushare was really using ~750mb of ram
[06:16] <jazonknight> what version of ubuntu everyone running?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu XP Home Basiuc premoim ultra express
[06:16] <Blue1> jazonknight: ubuntu 9.10 (64 bit) and suse 11.X (32 bit) and ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix
[06:17] <jazonknight> all in muilti boot formats
[06:17] <jazonknight> ?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> what no Minix ?
[06:17] <Blue1> jazonknight: no suse and ubuntu on seperate machines - but my 64 bit ubuntu dual boots with mmmVista
[06:18] <roopeshv> can someone help me with a problem, whenever i update my kernel, ubuntu kernel panics or skips the grub menu, and goes to grub shell.
[06:18] <jazonknight> guys isnt thier a boot option u can run from grub?
[06:19] <Blue1> not the grub guru - it just works for me...
[06:19] <aldo> !lista
[06:20] <Blue1> !grub | roopeshv
[06:20] <roopeshv> i currently use ubuntu through wubi, and using kubuntu 9.10, but same problem occured when i used ubuntu 9.10
[06:20] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: thanks for the info mate ;-P
[06:20] <Blue1> roopeshv: I've never played with wubi --
[06:20] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: any time...
[06:20] <clocker> !grub2
[06:21] <roopeshv> the problem is not with the grub, but with the problem happens after updating to a newer kernel, so problem must be with update changing something
[06:21] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: I guess I never checked it in the middle, so all I ever so was the beginning with most free, and then the end with most used for what seemed like no reason
[06:21] <NotTooSmart> \saw
[06:21] <iflema> roopeshv.... why not make some room and do a native install... ive a better idea....
[06:21] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: yeah its designed to do that...
[06:22] <roopeshv> i can, but will lose warranty, so have to wait for warranty to be void, anyway it is not like i am new to ubuntu, using ubuntu since 5.10
[06:22] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: but trust me, the memory will be there if you run oo or some other memory gobbling app
[06:22] <jazonknight> thiers no restore option yet in ubuntu is thier?
[06:22] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: its a server
[06:22] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: mpd or ushare is the most mem using prog I run
[06:22] <CVirus> jazonknight: what do you need a restore for ?
[06:23] <Blue1> NotTooSmart: ahh I have only run server once - to see if I could get it to install on a 1 gig usb flash drive - for run - and yes I did make it!
[06:23] <jazonknight> i was curious is thier option like windows that undos chnages to a time if u can problems?
[06:24] <Blue1> jazonknight: like the windows system/restore function?
[06:24] <blakkheim> jazonknight: no
[06:25] <iflema> roopeshv fair enough.....
[06:25] <NotTooSmart> Blue1: that machine is a 2.40ghz celeron w/ 1gb im probably gonna install server on a 450 mhz pIII with 390mb ram I pulled out of the garbage :-P
[06:25] <roopeshv> iflema: so any idea on solving the problem?
[06:25]  * iflema is thinking GO.... and wipeout winblows while ya @ it.....
[06:25] <iflema> roopeshv no....
[06:25] <Blue1> jazonknight: I'm not aware of anything like that -- like they say - the great thing about linux is that you're your own sysadmin - the bad thing about linux is -- you're your own sysadmin -- usually if you can get console, you can unmuck it
[06:26] <roopeshv> so any one who can tell me what to do if kernel panics or i am in grub shell, and have no access to grub menu?
[06:26] <Blue1> roopeshv: dunno - beyond my knowledge level - sorry
[06:27] <iflema> roopeshv mention wubi.. maybe wubi?!?
[06:27] <roopeshv> Blue1: no problem, this is my first time in 4 years of ubuntu, that i came across kernel panic, so i have no clue either
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> sounds like some hardware issues to me really roopeshv .
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> roopeshv:  somthing just seems.. odd...
[06:28]  * Dr_Willis has to wonder what 'warrenty' says you cant reinstall...
[06:29] <Blue1> roopeshv: can you look at the system log or boot log?  there might be clues there.
[06:29] <roopeshv> Dr_Willis: but it works, as soon as i install ubuntu, and stops working, as soon as i update my kernel, so i hardly think it is hardware
[06:29] <h0rnman> roopeshv: last time I saw a kernel panic after grub was on a botched upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10...maybe I missed it, but have you done anything that would qualify as "this could really hose things if it went wrong?"
[06:29] <Blue1> oh yeah never upgrade - backup /etc/ and /home/ and do a fresh install
[06:30] <h0rnman> yeah...live and learn, I guess  :)
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> roopeshv:  id let memtest run a bit to verify..   it would seem very odd that  the last dozen or so kernel updates would all ahve the same issue..
[06:30] <roopeshv> h0rnman: i usually do normal web dev and desktop dev on this comp, so nothing to mess with drivers or kernel
[06:30] <Blue1> ibm's 2 rules to guarenteed success with computers:  rule 1:  always have a path back to the way it was, before you messed it up.  Rule 2:  always follow rule 1
[06:31] <Lewix> hi
[06:31] <jazonknight> wow
[06:31] <h0rnman> ok...then this is going to sound silly, but what was the last thing you were working on before this started?
[06:31] <Lewix> what's the command to see the list of my partitions
[06:31] <Blue1> okay nearly pumpkin time for me - night folks
[06:31] <Lewix> I tried fdisk -l
[06:31] <Out_Cold> fdisk -l
[06:31] <roopeshv> hmm, i was doing plone dev, and django development
[06:31] <jazonknight> fdisk!
[06:31] <jazonknight> ftw
[06:31] <Lewix> it did not work
[06:32] <Out_Cold> sudo fdisk -l
[06:32] <jazonknight> i was googleing booting kernal from grub
[06:32] <Lewix> right- didn't think of sudo
[06:32] <Lewix> thanks
[06:32] <quentin> hi all. I need help with a disk mount
[06:32] <h0rnman> 'hmmm' indeed
[06:33] <quentin> I followed instructions online and get an error with mount -a
[06:33] <Lewix> Out_Cold: how do I see the space occupied by the different partitions. Also, what's sda
[06:33] <h0rnman> are you using the default ubuntu kernel or did you roll your own?
[06:33] <jazonknight> sda usally means its a scsi/sata harddrive
[06:33] <wikkedfin> how do i install libssl-dev on ubuntu server 9.10?
[06:34] <roopeshv> h0rnman: i use everything form the repos, nothing compiled by me and installed
[06:34] <Out_Cold> Lewix, if you want a visual, use gparted. sda is the hard drive, sda1 is equiv to c:/ sda2 = d:/
[06:35] <quentin> i did the mount before on intrepid and now I'm on karmic and it's not working
[06:36] <iflema> roopeshv id be running a persistent live usb environment until that warranty runs out.... but i may be off-topic ;)
[06:36] <h0rnman> roopeshv: can you get to the drive in a liveCD environment and read your /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[06:36] <h0rnman> that may provide some clues as to what grub is trying to do
[06:37] <roopeshv> actually, i reinstalled kubuntu, so i lost all the things, but wanted to be ready if i have to come across the problem again
[06:37] <roopeshv> so can't
[06:37] <h0rnman> ah...that's unfortunate :)
[06:37] <quentin> just let me know if you can help me with the disk mount on karmic and I can wait for you to help
[06:38] <bullgard> quentin: Please put a specific question in this channel. Nobody wants to answer using a long-winded speech.
[06:38] <Lewix> how do i find out how much space ive already used
[06:38] <roopeshv> df -h
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Lewix:  df -h, normlluy
[06:38] <roopeshv> try that command leweix
[06:38] <GhostWolf> hey can anyone help me? i trying to install gnome-ppp and i get a error message something about c++ and tells me to look in the config.log file if anyone can please help i got the config.log file in pastebin
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> GhostWolf:  you mean you are trying to COMPILE gnome-ppp? or what exactluy?
[06:39] <quentin> bullgard: how do I get a mount to work and stop presenting this errormount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[06:39] <quentin>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[06:39] <quentin>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> quentin:  what are you trying to mount?
[06:40] <quentin> a sata internal
[06:40] <Out_Cold> quentin, and how?
[06:40] <brophat> does UNR have an auto updater like ubuntu has?
[06:40] <edbian> quentin, choose the actual partition and not the entire hard drive (e.g. /dev/sdb1)  ;)
[06:40] <iflema> quentin why mount -a?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> quentin:  i think /dev/sdb is not corerect.. /dev/sdb1 might be qwhat you need
[06:40] <Out_Cold> brophat, yes
[06:40] <GhostWolf> if anyone is able to help me with gnome-ppp please let me know so i can paste the pastebin info
[06:40] <Lewix> Out_Cold: thank you
[06:40] <jazonknight> what u trying to mount?
[06:41] <brophat> Out_Cold so if I install UNR 9.04 I would be able to imediatley upgrade to 9.10 ?
[06:41] <Lewix> now, i would like to enlarge my linux partition. how do I go about it
[06:41] <JNSamuel> up
[06:41] <jazonknight> gparted?
[06:41] <Out_Cold> brophat, yes but i would just install 9.10 as it would take 2 times longer to do other way
[06:41] <brophat> Out_Cold I mean using the auto upgrader
[06:41] <iflema> quentin fstab?
[06:42] <brophat> Out_Cold long story, but I gotta put UNR on mem stick using mac
[06:42] <quentin> Dr_Willis, edbian: that worked! thanks so much
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> quentin:  it helps to mount the righht filesystem :)
[06:42] <brophat> and with mac only way to do that is with 9.04 which came in img file
[06:42] <quentin> yes. silly me
[06:43] <jazonknight> 9.04 fully support macbook pro?
[06:43] <brophat> jazonknight no dun think so. i am using mac to make the bootable usb stick with unr on it
[06:43] <Out_Cold> brophat, i am pretty sure its possible. the update app is there. as long as you enable through synaptics options
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> use a live linux cd on the mac. :) uise the usb-creator tool.
[06:44] <brophat> yeaj well i guess i will let you know
[06:45] <brophat> well the usb stick is already made
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> actually isent there vitualbox for the mac?
[06:45] <jazonknight> brophat: hmmm i could get it installed just last time i had issues with sound if not the sound the wifi i can never win lol
[06:45] <brophat> nice
[06:46] <AlienDK> Hello. I need to transfer files from my Ubuntu box to a Windows box. They're both on the same wifi network. So... any ideas? :)
[06:47] <jazonknight> winscp?
[06:47] <GhostWolf> for anyone who is able to help me with the problem with gnome-ppp i got some error when i was installing, i had to download the file from another computer cause i don't have internet to connect on my ubuntu 9.10 machine, and this is the pastebin info with the config.log file.. again if anyone is willing to help me it be appreciated.. http://pastebin.com/m1e488539
[06:47] <jazonknight> or unless u have ssh client from ssh hehe
[06:47] <jazonknight> for windows
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  several ways to do it. easy for a few files is ssh on linux and winscp to connect/copy over
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  it wont be real fast however.. but it is easy to do
[06:47] <AlienDK> hmm
[06:48] <jazonknight> Dr_Willis: winscp prone to fail on large files
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> jazonknight:  cant say taht ive ever had it fail.
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> one mans large. is anothers common size. :)
[06:49] <jazonknight> Dr_Willis: i am talking like vmdk file transfers just saying
[06:49] <AlienDK> Winscp looks like a FTP/SFTP client :S
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  so?
[06:50] <AlienDK> It would require some server software on the Ubuntu box
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> it can do ftp  :)
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  install ssh on the server.. yes...
[06:50] <jazonknight> AlienDK: thiers A client called ssh from a company actually called ssh which rocks
[06:50] <AlienDK> sudo apt-get install ssh?
[06:50] <GhostWolf> can anyone please help me?
[06:50] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, have you built before? that seems kinda normal to me
[06:51] <edbian> GhostWolf, That depends.  You have to ask a question first! :)
[06:51] <jazonknight> AlienDK: unfornatally its the windows one
[06:51] <GhostWolf> edbian i already asked my question twice
[06:51] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold built what before what are you talking about?
 for anyone who is able to help me with the problem with gnome-ppp i got some error when i was installing, i had to download the file from another computer cause i don't have internet to connect on my ubuntu 9.10 machine, and this is the pastebin info with the config.log file.. again if anyone is willing to help me it be appreciated.. http://pastebin.com/m1e488539
[06:51] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, have you tried make
[06:51] <AlienDK> :)
[06:51] <h0rnman|recompil> here I go...recompiling nautilus....wish me luck :D
[06:52] <priya> hi all  im trying to creat a  launcher file it wont run for me when i click on the lauch file i have created the terminal windos shuts down right away
[06:52] <AlienDK> Dr_Willis: sudo apt-get install ssh?
[06:52] <AlienDK> :/
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> package manager has a search feature AlienDK  :)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[06:52] <edbian> priya, I think I can help.  You're trying to create a launcher?  is that right?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> I think its open-sshd or somthing
[06:53] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, after make completes, then you sudo make install
[06:53] <priya> yes
[06:53] <AlienDK> hmm
[06:53] <edbian> Dr_Willis, openssh-server
[06:53] <jazonknight> ubottu a bot?
[06:53] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold if you're talking about the install of gnome-ppp i've followed the instructions to install i've done the first part and get an error and told me to check the config.log file which is why i pasted the pastebin link
[06:53] <edbian> priya, Please being your posts with my name like I'm doing for you
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search ssh   :)
[06:53] <edbian> priya, What command are you trying to run with this launcher?
[06:53] <edbian> priya, Is it graphical or terminal based?
[06:54] <AlienDK> hm
[06:54] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, i misread that file, why are you pasting the ./configure file? what is the error you receive exactly?
[06:54] <priya> edbian, im new to linux client.x86
[06:55] <priya> edbian ,the command is client.x86
[06:55] <AlienDK> Okay, I have installed OpenSSH server on my ubuntu box
[06:55] <AlienDK> What now? :S
[06:55] <AlienDK> Sorry for being noob:(
[06:55] <edbian> priya, :)  What do you want the launcher to do?
[06:55] <GhostWolf> i don't know Out_Cold it has something to do with the c++ i did it lastnight and i don't understand anything the config.log file reason i posted the pastebin info is from the config.log file...
[06:55] <jazonknight> AlienDK: try to connect from windows?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis>  client.x86 - what a  descriptive name... :)
[06:56] <AlienDK> with winscp?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  see if you can connect  'ssh localhost'
[06:56] <edbian> priya, If you ran that in a terminal what would happen?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  then run winscp and give it the ip of the linux box and user name/pass and see if it sees stuff
[06:56] <darkfuneral> anyone know a tool like hidam (hierarchical data editor)?
[06:56] <priya> edbian, i want the launcher to launch this executable in terminal window
[06:56] <iflema> GhostWolf all you need is built in allready... has been for years.... its just not a gui... but it should get u online to install gnome-ppp from the repos.as far as i understand.
[06:57] <AlienDK> where do I do ssh localhost? terminal?
[06:57] <edbian> priya, Then in the launcher menu choose "launch in terminal"  That should keep the terminal window open.  I'm not familiar with that particular command.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  err.. whee else could you do it at? ;)
[06:57] <jazonknight> could be magic
[06:57] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, run the command again and try to get the exact error. It may be that you need to install build-essentials. Is this the first time you have tried compiling from source?
[06:57] <darkfuneral> i didn't know you could ssh localhost, says port 22 close on my end
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  yes.. termianl. :)
[06:57] <AlienDK> cmd in windows? sorry, as I said before, Imma noob :(
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> darkfuneral:  thats odd.
[06:57] <AlienDK> yes
[06:57] <AlienDK> terminal
[06:57] <AlienDK> understood
[06:57] <edbian> priya, Is that helpful?
[06:57] <priya> edbian,it run fine when i go into termianl and go into my cd were the file is and enter the ./ client.x86    it runs fine than
[06:58] <AlienDK> okay
[06:58] <AlienDK> done
[06:58] <FloodBot1> AlienDK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:58] <GhostWolf> iflema its not built in on ubuntu 9.10 i can't install it without an internet connection im on dial up so i had to download the file on a windows computer which im using now
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> the ssh localhost is a ;'test' to be sure it worked. :) if ya can connect.. then winscp should be able to.
[06:58] <edbian> priya, Oooo, ic
[06:58] <priya> i have tried that but the terminal window shuts down right away
[06:59] <iflema> GhostWolf gnome-ppp is not built in there are terminal apps/scripts that connect dialup modems
[06:59] <edbian> priya, the launcher starts in your home directory.  You're skipping the steps of navigating the launcher to the cd drive.
[06:59] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold its first time installing gnome-ppp as i mentioned i had to download the gnome-ppp file from this windows computer i have i rather use my nix box and only connection i have is dial up
[06:59] <edbian> priya, I suggest putting that executable in /usr/local/bin/  Anything in there can be run no matter where the terminal is using just the name of the file.  Does that make sense?
[07:00] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, what about compiling anything?? you need gcc which is found in build-essentials if you have never built source before
[07:00] <edbian> priya, Then you can run the program without the CD!
[07:00] <GhostWolf> iflema well im maibnly trying to get my modem to be enabled i can't do anything until i get gnome-ppp as i found in few documents online
[07:00] <priya> edbian ,oh help out how do i do  copy into thier
[07:00] <iflema> GhostWolf pon and poff or similar... /etc/ppp/peers /etc/ooptions /etc/pap-secrets... its been a while but i can help if that dosent
[07:00] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold im not building anything
[07:01] <AlienDK> "Network error: Connection refused."
[07:01] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, the file you pasted is a configure file??
[07:01] <jazonknight> AlienDK: from ssh localhost or winscp?
[07:01] <AlienDK> winscp
[07:01] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, Invocation command line was
[07:01] <Out_Cold>   $ ./configure
[07:02] <priya> edbian, this is were this fodler with this file is right now /home/desktop/Desktop/RQC
[07:02] <iflema> GhostWolf external modem?
[07:02] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold no its the log file from when i typed ./configure and it gave me the error message that has something to do with c++ which told me to look in the config.log file
[07:02] <jazonknight> AlienDK: do u know root user name and password?
[07:02] <GhostWolf> iflema no its not an external modem
[07:02] <iflema> GhostWolf ooo
[07:02] <AlienDK> Yes, but nvm. I am too dumb to do stuff.
[07:02] <nomad111> hi all does anyone here use phpMyAdmin
[07:03] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, that configure file is used to build a make file from source code. you need a compiler such as gcc to produce it
[07:03] <jazonknight> AlienDK: i waas going to suggest try logging in with root
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> actually with ssh its possible that direct logging in as root is disabled.
[07:03] <AlienDK> I did
[07:03] <iflema> GhostWolf seriously but... all you need is ready to go... no downloads... but configuring that internal mode is another issue...
[07:03] <AlienDK> but nvm
[07:03] <iflema> GhostWolf modem
[07:04] <AlienDK> I'll try to find another way to do this
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  its possible the windows firewall is blocking things..  this is on a local lan?
[07:04] <jazonknight> AlienDK: thiers always usb key
[07:04] <AlienDK> USB keys sucks
[07:04] <AlienDK> Yes this is a local network
[07:04]  * Dr_Willis points out that SSH is worth learning.
[07:04] <jazonknight> AlienDK: it is turn it off to test
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> AlienDK:  so 'ssh localhost' did work?  should get you back to just a terminal/prompt.
[07:05] <Out_Cold> ssh is godly XD
[07:05] <priya> edbian , how  do i go about moving it into that folder
[07:05] <GhostWolf> iflema im not configuring my modem im getting it to get it enabled i've searched on how to get dial up to work in ubuntu and i found 2 documents well 1 and someone gave me another one saying i need to enable the modem
[07:06] <AlienDK> just a sec
[07:06] <zomfgcrazy> *yawns* i am going to bed, now.  goodnight, #ubuntu.
[07:06] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, you probably need a specific driver and the gnome-ppp c++ issues is something you shouldn't worry about
[07:06] <AlienDK> This is what I get when I do 'ssh localhost' in terminal. http://pastebin.com/m17449b15
[07:06] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold all i know is when i did the ./configure in the folder it told me something about c++ not gcc just a sec and i can tell you exactly what the outcome is when i did the ./configure
[07:07] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, gcc compiles c++ code.. trust me on that
[07:07] <iflema> GhostWolf m8 good luck... that may be a new approach but sounds wrong to me... whats the modem model/manu?
[07:07] <GhostWolf> iflema i don't know i just know the chipset says conexant or however its spelled
[07:08] <iflema> GhostWolf could be worse.... give me a min....
[07:08] <Out_Cold> AlienDK, if you type exit, you should logout of ssh
[07:08] <AlienDK> Connection to localhost closed.
[07:08] <AlienDK> chris@LPC-U-1:~$
[07:08] <priya> edbian , u thier
[07:08] <GhostWolf> iflema on a site that gives a list of modems it shows conexant is one of them i can use
[07:08] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, can you lshw in linux?
[07:09] <iflema> GhostWolf laptop or tower?
[07:09] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold i don't know but im going to copy the outcome from the ./configure if you just give me a moment
[07:09] <GhostWolf> desktop/tower iflema
[07:10] <AlienDK> but nevermind
[07:10] <AlienDK> bye
[07:10] <Out_Cold> AlienDK, that was an ssh login ;)
[07:10] <iflema> GhostWolf you get ya hands on an external (no cheap these days by the way) youll be on i 2sec flat
[07:11] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, i think you should go the way of iflema on a driver search. but if you want to learn how to properly build source I would love to give a lesson ;)
[07:11] <h0rnman|recompil> can anyone help me with this error - generated when trying to recompile nautilus from source:
[07:11] <h0rnman|recompil> trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nautilus-connect-server', which is also in package nautilus
[07:11] <h0rnman|recompil> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[07:11] <GhostWolf> iflema sorry but i don't have money to do a external modem i bought this modem from a shop for a buck sorry but im not fan of external stuff atm
[07:11] <iflema> Out_Cold sorry m8
[07:12] <iflema> GhostWolf its just external dialup modemsdont need drivers
[07:12] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold i downloaded and installed scaModem and already showed the drivers are up to date for the modem to be honest i don't think i need  to find one
[07:13] <iflema> GhostWolf https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant
[07:13] <GhostWolf> iflema i understand that but i don't mind if it needs drivers but i believe it doesn't need the drivers
[07:13] <h4ro_> Is this a help room?
[07:13] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, possibly then, but we can't tell with out more info from your ubuntu box. if you would like instructions to complete your ./configure i can give you a list
[07:13] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  online support
[07:13] <h4ro_> Cool, I have a problem with my graphics card drivers. :[
[07:13] <iflema> GhostWolf if that true... and its ready.... youve been wasting time.
[07:14] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  k whats wrong?
[07:14] <sumoduno> for my conky how do i remove the frames around the graphs (i.e the CPU chart)?
[07:15] <GhostWolf> iflema my main problem is getting my modem to Enable.. i don't have a way to do it and i don't have a network settings or ubuntu 9.10 doesn't have it and i have even been told by someone here lastnight i'd most likely need to have gnome-ppp installed
[07:15] <h4ro_> I have kind of an obscure graphics card. It's an ATI Mobility HD 4650.
[07:15] <Slart> sumoduno: there's nothing in the manual?
[07:15] <h4ro_> jazonknight: I've been googling the correct way to install the drivers, and I've had no luck.
[07:16] <jazonknight> h4ro_: have u done updates?
 manual?
[07:16] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold as i said if you please can just give me a minute i only have one monitor and able to switch back n forth to my windows computer to my ubuntu computer if you can just hold up one more minute i will give you the pastebin of the outcome when i did the ./configure for gnome-ppp.. sorry but please be patient with me here
[07:16] <Slart> sumoduno: http://conky.sourceforge.net and then there's probably a man page or two.. "man conky" might be a good start
[07:16] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, another issue i can think of is that when you go to ./compile that, you will be missing lots of dependency packages that you will also need to install and possibly compile
[07:17] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  thiers a update manager which usally contain drivers from ati/nvidia u need to get
[07:17] <h4ro_> jazonknight: Just finished, yeah. I believe I'm up to date. I'm not sure to check versions and such though.
[07:17] <Out_Cold> GhostWolf, it's ok. i know what the error is and why it is
[07:17] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  what options do u get in system tab then administration then hardware drivers?
[07:18] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  do u see option to activate ati drivers?
[07:18] <GhostWolf> Out_Cold how do you know what the error is? i didn't show you what the outcome is yet, just let me show you first and then you can further help me
[07:18] <Slart> sumoduno: you can also try #conky
[07:18] <h4ro_> jazonknight: It's searching
[07:19] <h4ro_> jazonknight: AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver. When I tried that before, It had an error
[07:19] <jazonknight> before u updated??
[07:19] <iflema> GhostWolf take a look @ /etc/ppp/peers/provider
[07:19] <h4ro_> Jazonknight: Yeah, but it is still erroring. It says /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid.
[07:20] <neil_d> why does a raid1 on sata drives never boot when there is only one drive?
[07:20] <iflema> GhostWolf man pppd
[07:21] <tleuser> Hi
[07:21] <Out_Cold> good find iflema
[07:21] <priya> can some one explain how we  can move a file into  usr/bin
[07:21] <iflema> Out_Cold found long ago and yes many tears :)
[07:22] <Out_Cold> priya, typically "sudo cp /path/to/your/file /usr/bin/
[07:22] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  not sure what esle to tell you that as far as i usally get unless thiers more updates
[07:22] <Slart> priya: sudo mv somefile /usr/bin     should work
[07:22] <h4ro_> I can doublecheck.
[07:22] <tleuser> Lockoff
[07:22] <h4ro_> I know I'm not on 10.04.
[07:22] <Out_Cold> priya, yes mv deletes old version
[07:22] <jazonknight> 10.04 is out now?
[07:22] <priya> i will try that
[07:22] <Out_Cold> !out
[07:22] <priya> thanks
[07:22] <Slart> !lucid | jazonknight
[07:23] <jazonknight> whoa
[07:23] <h4ro_> jazonknight: Oh, I see.
[07:23] <jazonknight> opps
[07:23] <jazonknight> not stable is ur problem h4ro_
[07:23] <jazonknight> downgrade
[07:23] <jazonknight> my opinion
[07:23] <h4ro_> jazonknight: I'm on 9 still.
[07:23] <Out_Cold> jazonknight, a hint is that the numbers are coded to the year and month. 10.04 = april 2010
[07:24] <jazonknight> o
[07:24] <jeffmr> can someone help me test some sharing?
[07:24] <Out_Cold> jeffmr?
[07:24] <jazonknight> h4ro_: idk
[07:24] <jeffmr> yes
[07:24] <jeffmr> msg?
[07:24] <h4ro_> jazonknight: Hmm...
[07:24] <Out_Cold> jeffmr, share what and how?
[07:24] <Out_Cold> sure
[07:24] <GhostWolf> iflema did you get my message? i sent a private message to you
[07:25] <priya> i get error  No such file or directory
[07:25] <Out_Cold> priya, bad syntax.. what is the file you are trying to move?
[07:25] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  what video card model again?
[07:25] <priya> client.x86
[07:26] <h4ro_> jazonknight: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650
[07:26] <Out_Cold> priya, can you run locate client.x86
[07:26] <priya> im new to linux what is the command
[07:27] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  i was checking ubuntu support site about ati drivers
[07:27] <Out_Cold> locate client.x86
[07:27] <drazak> Hello there, I'm running 9.10 with linux-server on a 32bit machine and have 4 gig of memory installed, PAE and HIGHMEM64G are definitely on, any idea why I still cannot access the last gig of memory?
[07:27] <h4ro_> I'm googling the error.
[07:28] <drazak> I see all 4gig of memory in the bios
[07:28] <h4ro_> jazonknight: xorg.conf is blank.
[07:28] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  it seems like s generic error try this link to support site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#Will%20It%20Work%20On%20Your%20Card?
[07:28] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  vi it
[07:29] <h4ro_> jazonknight: vi?
[07:29] <nomad77> drazak: afaik 32bit has a 3gb mem limit,reqs 64bit for > 3gb ram
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  some of the memory is resergved for the hardware to use - if i recall corrctly.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> even with PAE and highmem64g enabled. theres still some reserved
[07:29] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  in terminal vi the locaton of ur xorg.conf see ifs has text in it
[07:29] <priya> what is the terminal command to locate file
[07:29] <Out_Cold> priya, it's "locate"
[07:30] <Out_Cold> priya, "locate client.x86"
[07:30] <jazonknight> Out_Cold: wow i never knew that lol
[07:30] <drazak> Dr_Willis: that's rediculous, even with the 128 for video there should be another 894 meg floating around
[07:30] <jazonknight> thxs btw
[07:30] <drazak> Dr_Willis: that's a hell of a lot to go missing
[07:30] <h4ro_> jazonknight: It does.
[07:31] <Out_Cold> :p
[07:31] <drazak> or you know, some odd ammount like that
[07:31] <jazonknight> h4ro_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI check this site about that driver
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  ive read up on this topic befor. so im not sure where it all goes.. but SOME is defaintly taken/reserved for hardware
[07:32] <drazak> Dr_Willis: so have I, and I have a machine in the other room where I have 3.75gb
[07:32] <Out_Cold> priya, do you get more than a few lines??
[07:32] <priya> i tried that i get nothing in return i even tried the folder its in it wont even locate the folder
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  all ic an say is that it could be due to bios's not being set up to allow for the larger ram
[07:33] <Out_Cold> priya, where is this folder? where is the file you want to move?
[07:33] <drazak> Dr_Willis: I checked around in there, didn't see anything
[07:33] <jazonknight> Out_Cold:  how can i locate within a specfically dir or does it do that automatically?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  ive seen lots of articals on it. but it also depends on the different OS's .  heres one mentining windows that enabled 3gb of 'user mode memory'  but ive no idea on how pae/highmem affects things.
[07:34] <priya> folder is here /home/desktop/Desktop i want to move the file in this folder to usr/bin
[07:34] <Out_Cold> jazonknight, i usually pipe through grep ie: locate firefox | grep /bin/
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  i did see some benchmakrs on 64bit vs 32bit + PAE and so on.. i think their summary was 'use 64bit' at the end
[07:35] <xiambax> yeah
[07:35] <xiambax> usually your best bet. 64
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu 32-bit, 32-bit PAE, 64-bit Kernel Benchmarks
[07:35] <Out_Cold> priya, can you please then type this? ls /home/desktop/Desktop
[07:35] <xiambax> downside is you have less package support for 64 bit
[07:35] <drazak> Dr_Willis: except I can't use a 64 bit kernel with 32bit hardware, I assume
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> I can only think of a few packages ive seen that dont come in 64bit
[07:35] <jazonknight> 64bit run 32bit apps slower sometimes only down fall i c or they wont work in 64bit
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> xiambax: that's hardly true these days
[07:36] <xiambax> Well i mean for small projects
[07:36] <jazonknight> cisco vpn.... doesnt
[07:36] <h0rnman|recompil> does anyone have an idea as to why a .deb package generated by checkinstall would have problems overwriting an Icon (.png) file?
[07:36] <xiambax> that dont have lots of devs and what not
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> xiambax: such as?
[07:36] <Out_Cold> h0rnman|recompil, permissions issues?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  this 'part of the 4gb reserved; i think is why a few yrs back many windows machines did not bother with 4gb but stopped at 3gb. there was to much just getting lost.
[07:36] <xiambax> tonyyarusso, until recently boxee had no support
[07:36] <xiambax> mt-daap was the most recent one i tried that had no 64bit support
[07:37] <xiambax> mt-daapd i mean
[07:37] <h0rnman|recompil> shouldn't be...I've tried running the whole process as root and get the same issues
[07:37] <CVirus> How can I run a python script everytime I login into my gnome session ?
[07:37] <priya> Out_Cold, ok i did that
[07:37] <Out_Cold> h0rnman|recompil, not sure then
[07:37] <drazak> Dr_Willis: so then the question is, can I run a 64bit kernel on 32bit hardware
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  proberly not
[07:37] <Rahim> hello
[07:38] <Myrtti> h0rnman|recompil: because that's what the software developer of the app you've packaged wanted to? perhaps it has the icon in it...
[07:38] <jazonknight> drazak: it may be 32bit hardware but most likely have 64bit support
[07:38] <Out_Cold> priya, can you paste the output in pvt or pastebin?
[07:38] <eueu> Hello, is it possible to modify an image in a PDF file, as it is possible to extract it with pdfimages? Is there any tool that can put it back after I modified it without affecting its size?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  whats your exct cpu?
[07:38] <Rahim> i use jaunty and was checking sources.lst file and i found this 'deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:38] <Rahim> ' as backports repo. SHouldnt it be jaunty-backports?
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> xiambax: mt-daapd has a 64-bit package in the repos.
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> even my old box's are 64bit thse days
[07:38] <xiambax> I couldnt find any
[07:38] <drazak> Dr_Willis: Intel Core 2 T5600
[07:38] <xiambax> Either way. I got it working
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> drazak: Hmm.. you SURE thats not a 64bit cpu?
[07:39] <drazak> ahaha
[07:39] <Broken> hello all, is anyone familiar with iFuse?
[07:39] <drazak> it does support 64bit
[07:39] <liouys> how to install php and sqlite
[07:39] <xiambax> I just used the daap pluggin for rhythmbox
[07:39] <jazonknight> drazak:  make sure 64bit is enabled in bios sometimes can be an issue
[07:39] <priya> i have never used Xchat  u want me to paste right in here were i type
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> xiambax: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mt-daapd&searchon=names&suite=karmic&section=all
[07:39] <xiambax> which finally got patched
[07:39] <drazak> jazonknight: I didn't see it in there
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  i was about to ask how old that thing is..  even my 4 yr old box is 64bit
[07:39] <Rahim> shouldnt backports for jaunty be from karmic and not intrepid?
[07:39] <blakkheim> jazonknight: lol.. i don't think that's how it works
[07:39] <drazak> jazonknight: is there anyway to do a change over without getting another iso?
[07:39] <xx12racexx> hey whats up guys?
[07:39] <Myrtti> Rahim: no, they should be from jaunty
[07:39] <jazonknight> drazak:  thier are 2 seprate installs for 32bit and 64biy
[07:40] <Rahim> Myrtti: so in that kink it should be jaunty-backports, right?
[07:40] <drazak> jazonknight: I know, is there anyway to switch without completely reinstalling?
[07:40] <Theresa> hi can someone help me?
[07:40] <Out_Cold> priya, it's not really welcomed in the main to paste lots of lines... you can double click my name i think and paste there
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  quote from the artical url i posted --> the Ubuntu 64-bit kernel that often ended up being leaps and bounds better than the 32-bit kernel.
[07:40] <xiambax> Theresa, be more specific
[07:40] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Theresa
[07:40] <jazonknight> drazak: non that i know of
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Unless you have technical or business reasons for not migrating to 64-bit Linux with compatible hardware, there is no reason to stick around with a 32-bit kernel and worrying about physical address extension.
[07:41] <Out_Cold> priya, just /msg Out_Cold <your paste>
[07:41] <drazak> Dr_Willis: I'm going to switch to 64 bit
[07:41] <drazak> Dr_Willis: I'm just wondering if there's a way to do it without burning another cd
[07:41] <xiambax> When the next release rollout for ubuntu?
[07:41] <Myrtti> Rahim: yes. I guess you've upgraded from intrepid to jaunty? the upgrade process always disables extra repos
[07:42] <priya> ok
[07:42] <xiambax> Didnt karmic just come out a few months back?
[07:42] <jazonknight> xiambax: apirl
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> xiambax:  the version #'s aee the dates..
[07:42] <Myrtti> xiambax: april
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> !lucid | xiambax
[07:42] <h0rnman|recompil> Myrtti:  I don't think so, but you have given me an idea...
[07:42] <jazonknight> i win
[07:42] <sebsebseb> xiambax: End of April
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> 10.04 = April 2010
[07:42] <Myrtti> Dr_Willis: you need a new cd.
[07:42] <Rahim> Myrtti: thank you
[07:42] <Broken> hello all, is anyone familiar with iFuse?
[07:42] <Myrtti> meh
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Myrtti:  i do? :)
[07:42] <xiambax> Ah
[07:42] <Theresa> i am trying to install 9.10 and the disk runs but when i try to install it stops on the wallpaper and freezes... i have tried running in various run modes to no avail
[07:42] <Rahim> myloX: any offline dictionary for linux?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> drazak: you could use usb instead of a cd too
[07:43] <drazak> tonyyarusso: still need to download it
[07:43] <Rahim> Myrtti: any offline dictionary for linux?
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> drazak: correct
[07:43] <Myrtti> Rahim: i wouldn't know.
[07:43] <sebsebseb> Theresa: Ubuntu ISO's can be checked to make sure the download itself is fine,   Then there's also a disk check on the psyical CD that will check if the psyical disk is ok or not.
[07:43] <Rahim> !ask artha
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> Theresa: also, if it's a graphics problem you could try the !alternate cd as well
[07:44] <Theresa> i ran those checks as well as a memory test and everything appears to be fine
[07:44] <sebsebseb> Theresa: and  if your ISO is ok, you can try burning the contents slower to another CD
[07:44] <Theresa> i downloaded the iso, so i am unsure what the alternate is
[07:44] <sebsebseb> Theresa: still got the ISO?
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> !alternate | Theresa
[07:45] <sebsebseb> Theresa: if so check it
[07:45] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[07:45] <Theresa> yes i have the iso
[07:45] <drazak> ok
[07:45] <drazak> well
[07:45] <drazak> I'll install 64bit in the morning
[07:45] <g0su> sup guys
[07:46] <g0su> um
[07:46] <g0su> anyone feel like talking a noob through installing linux based games on ubuntu?
[07:46] <g0su> like
[07:46] <sebsebseb> g0su: not exactly, but  there is quite a lot in the repo, that you can install easilly
[07:46] <Out_Cold> g0su, use the software installer
[07:46] <g0su> not windows games via wine
[07:46] <Myrtti> !enter
[07:47] <sebsebseb> g0su: your on 9.10?   if so have a look in software centre,  if on a earlier version  look in add/remove.   and then for even more stuff,  look through Synaptic
[07:47] <Out_Cold> g0su, in the default install, use the software centre or use synaptics and enable multiverse/universe repositories from menus
[07:48] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: I think those are enabled already in 9.10
[07:48] <g0su> oh, i'll have alook
[07:48] <g0su> rocking Kubuntu
[07:49] <g0su> i'm not talking about the crappy default games though
[07:49] <sebsebseb> g0su: oh your on Kubuntu?   hrm  well  the graphical programs mentioend,  you probably don't have those, but will have something similar
[07:49] <Out_Cold> g0su, lots of first persons, rpgs, and others
[07:49] <g0su> iu want to try some of the high performance ga,es
[07:49] <g0su> i*
[07:49] <g0su> based on linux kernel etc
[07:49] <sebsebseb> !games |  g0su
[07:49] <g0su> not windows games
[07:50] <Out_Cold> g0su, they are all there in the software center
[07:50] <g0su> kk
[07:50] <g0su> yeah i wanted to check this channel out as well
[07:50] <g0su> get to know some peeps
[07:50] <g0su> etc
[07:50] <sebsebseb> g0su: and if your on Kubuntu you don't have the software centre I think,   by the way #kubuntu exists
[07:51] <DexterLB> can I make windows that match certain rules to be without a close button, etc, without compiz?
[07:51] <jamie> hid3, how can I change the applications menu icon?
[07:51] <Theresa> where can i download the alternate cd iso?
[07:51] <sebsebseb> g0su: this is a support channel, if you want to try and get to know some people on IRC who use Ubuntu, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:51] <DexterLB> the only way I seem to be able to do it is with the compiz rules plugin, but I hate compiz.
[07:51] <g0su> ye
[07:51] <g0su> i know it's a support channel
[07:52] <g0su> jeeez
[07:52] <sebsebseb> Theresa: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10
[07:52] <Theresa> thank you
[07:52] <sebsebseb> Theresa:  in that list of files is also the md5sum and sha1sum codes, for the ISO checking
[07:52] <sebsebseb> Theresa: your ISO needs to have the same code, for it to be a good download
[07:52] <sebsebseb> np
[07:52] <Theresa> how do  i check that?
[07:53] <sebsebseb> Theresa: already gave you the bot thing for that, but ok here it is again
[07:53] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  Theresa
[07:53] <Theresa> sorry =/
[07:54] <Myrtti> sebsebseb: remember you can use > too for the bot commands ;-)
[07:54] <petsounds> DexterLB, you can use gconf-editor
[07:54] <jamie> How do I change the start button icon? The one next to applications, I don't want a whole new icon set. I want to change it manually.
[07:54] <sebsebseb> Myrtti: that's true, and sometimes that's better really
[07:54] <ardchoille> jamie: I wrote a tutorial on that.. hold on..
[07:54] <DexterLB> petsounds: and?
[07:54] <jamie> OKay ardchoille, thanks.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> jamie:  the tool 'ubuntu-tweak' lets you change it with just a few clicks.
[07:55] <jamie> Hahha, hello again Dr willis.
[07:55] <ardchoille> jamie: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/09/how-to-change-menu-icon-in-ubuntu-904.html
[07:55] <petsounds> DexterLB, go to apps>metacity>general>button layout
[07:55] <jamie> I tried it, it never did anything.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> jamie:  it worked for me last night,
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> jamie:   if you change icon themes.. it will change back i recall
[07:55] <ardchoille> james: Dr_Willis has good advice, ubuntu-tweak is probably better than my tutorial
[07:55] <dude_> anyone version to 9.10??
[07:56] <DexterLB> petsounds: but that would change it for all windows, no?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> dude_:  Huh?
[07:56] <jamie> I already tried it though, it restarted the panel, and nothing ever happened. it was the same icon.
[07:56] <jamie> Probably something on my part, what do you think I could have done wrong?
[07:56] <Myrtti> ardchoille: and ubuntu-tweak is a 3rd party tool...
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> jamie:  i did not have to restart the panel i think.. let me try it
[07:56] <petsounds> DexterLB, all windows
[07:56] <ardchoille> Myrtti: Ah, yes
[07:56] <ardchoille> jamie: Give my tutorial a go
[07:56] <DexterLB> petsounds: and what if I want for specific window?
[07:56] <jamie> kkszysiu, WIll do.
[07:58] <petsounds> DexterLB, idk, sorry. but keep asking somebody will know the answer
[07:58] <DexterLB> ok...
[07:58] <sebsebseb> dude_: Do you want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[07:59] <LMJ> Hi
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> jamie:  odd.. i changed the icon on my netbook.. but cant get it to change on the desktop box. :)
[08:00] <ardchoille> jamie: The method I used for changing the panel icon is the same method used in ubuntu tweak, and it doesn't work for all icon themes for some reason
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  that may be my issue then
[08:00] <ardchoille> yeah
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> I got so many other themes and stuff installed.. its scary
[08:01] <ardchoille> I'm thinking that not all icon themes check ~/.icons
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  so that may be why i saw it 'revert' when i changed themes..
[08:01] <ardchoille> likely
[08:01] <DexterLB> petsounds: http://blogs.gnome.org/metacity/2008/11/02/window-matching/
[08:02] <xjolynnx> Is there a way I can broadcast my webcam on a flash website with ubuntu?
[08:02] <xiambax> xjalynnx, www.justin.tv
[08:02] <xiambax> live.youtube.com
[08:02] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: The only other method, while quite messy, does work for all icon themes.. change the images in /usr/share/themes/$THEME
[08:02] <xiambax> and stickam.com
[08:03] <xiambax> sorry. live.yahoo.com i mean
[08:03] <Ferriss> okay guys. I just tried to upgrade from jaunty to karmic, my install wont start (i closed out of a little box after having left for ten hours, waited five minutes, didnt see a change in the OS so i restarted)
[08:03] <jamie> Hmm, arch I tried your tutorial, created the folder "jamie" in the .icons place, but its not showing up when I click appearance < theme < customize < icons. It's just not there
[08:03] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: /usr/share/icons/$THEME  even
[08:03] <xjolynnx> that's not what i asked
[08:03] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: ok and now what happens?
[08:03] <xjolynnx> with linux, broadcasting on flash sites doesn't work for some reason. how can i make it work?
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  that seems to be the issue.. i reverted to the gnome default icon themne.  then used ubuntu-tweak and it changed the icon.
[08:03] <sebsebseb> won't start right, but
[08:03] <sebsebseb> what does it do exactly
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  when i changed icon themes it does seem to reset howeer. had to rerun ubuntu-tweak
[08:04] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: yeah, still don't understand why it happens
[08:04] <Ferriss> it gives me the error mountall:symbol lookup error: mountall: undefined symbol: udev_monitor_filter_add_match_subsystem_devtype
[08:04] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: well doesn't matter that much,  your probably going to have to re install really,  plus if you do that,  not that important, but Ext4 by default and Grub 2
[08:04] <jamie> Did you guys find a fix for it too work through ubuntu-tweak?
[08:04] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: quite a lot of people had issues after upgrading 9.04  to 9.10
[08:04] <Ferriss> ugh. Well i have a disc that's lower than 9.04 even, so im kinda screwed eternally arent i
[08:05] <Ferriss> and i have a shit time trying to get atheros drivers to work
[08:05] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: If you find a fix for that, lemme know so I can possiblyupdate my tut
[08:05] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: uhmm  which disc do you have?
[08:05] <Ferriss> and i cant very well download anything 'cause ive got 30kbps connection X| gosh.
[08:05] <soreau> DexterLB: What is the problem with using compiz?
[08:05] <Ferriss> intrepid
[08:05] <xjolynnx> how can i make my browser compatible with adobe flash player? i need this in order to broadcast my webcam on linux.
[08:05] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: 9.04 is fine really for now, even intrepid
[08:05] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: intrepid is on the verge of running out of support though :(   anyway you can use that CD and access  your partition and get data
[08:06] <DexterLB> soreau: it's slow even on my intel dual core 2.8MHz processor, it crashes, it's problematic with dual-screen setups
[08:06] <Leoneof> hi, how to share internet connection from Laptop to PC, like this: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3613/ics.png
[08:06] <Ferriss> ima have a horrible time installing it. haha. does ubuntu keep its installed packages somewhere? so i can install things without having to move the screenless laptop downstairs ;_;
[08:06] <soreau> DexterLB: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:06] <Ferriss> my lord.
[08:06] <DexterLB> soreau: karmic
[08:06] <soreau> DexterLB: Which model card do you have?
[08:06] <Ferriss> i shouldnt have restarted. one more night of computer use wouldnt have been too bad.
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  yea. i got about 50 icon themes installed. :)
[08:07] <nomad111> hey all, im trying to configure apache2 to use a new site (Document Root), i created the new site in the sites-available folder as many sites instructed. When i browse to the site i get permission denied?
[08:07] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: I know what you mean
[08:07] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: hehe, that sounds about right for you
[08:07] <nomad111> googling this comes up with many reasons
[08:07] <DexterLB> soreau: NVidia GF 9500
[08:07] <nomad111> im not sure what to do
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille:  definatly depends on the icon theme it seems
[08:08] <Ferriss> thanks, sebsebseb. have you a good amount of experience in this? would there be any chance someone else would know what to do with the livecd to save it?
[08:08] <Ferriss> ;\
[08:08] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: ,but even if you hadn't re started it,  the chance of the upgrading going wrong,   is quite high it seems, from  reading about other people's experiences.   normalley upgrades go fine, it's just 9.04 to 9.10 quite a lot of people had problems.
[08:08] <jamie> Aha, I manually did it myself wooot!
[08:08] <nomad111> has anyone got this to work?
[08:09] <soreau> DexterLB: If you have any recent version of the nvidia driver it shouldn't be slow. However, nvidia drivers are buggy and problematic
[08:09] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: it's just stick in the Live CD access the partition get data, and put it some where else,  got an external hard disk or something to put it on?   as for programs  well what have  you installed?  re installing stuff from the repo isn't a big deal
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> jamie:  if it work or not seems to depend on what icon theme you are using
[08:09] <DexterLB> soreau: yes, and compiz needs those drivers
[08:09] <DexterLB> soreau: :(
[08:10] <Ferriss> sebsebseb: i have an atheros onboard, it's hell to get the drivers working
[08:10] <jamie> Dr_willis: I just simply went to home/jamie/.icons then to the current icon theme I was using and went to 24x24, and then places and replaced start-here.png with my own icon.
[08:10] <soreau> DexterLB: For nvidia, the only option so far is their proprietary drivers. Nouveau is in the making and reportedly are capable of running compiz. Which version of the drivers are you using?
[08:10] <Ferriss> well sometimes. updating to the latest official stuff seemed to work last time. im not sure what did it, but updating everything and installing madwifi and ndiswrapper all at the same time seems to do it : p
[08:11] <Leoneof> hi, how to share internet connection from Laptop to PC, like this: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3613/ics.png
[08:11] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: yeah wireless issues :(  luckily  only once I tried to sort something out myself,  a few years ago  before Ubuntu another distro.   so I am nice and etherneted :)  and have been for a few years now.   So you don't have the 9.04 CD?  Also if you were to put a clean install of 9.10 on it seems you wil probaby have to set up wireless in that one as well.
[08:11] <Ferriss> a 'fix the current install' option on the livecd wouldnt be too bad >_>
[08:12] <Theresa> what does it mean to 'run the following in a terminal', the cmd prompt or... what?
[08:12] <laughzilla> hi :) anyone know why my speakers would just suddenly stop working on my ubuntu 9.04 box?  all they make is a crackling sound when i test them or try to pass any sound thru them.
[08:12] <nixjr> is there .rar file support in linux?
[08:12] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: sadly there is no such option, maybe in the future their will be
[08:12] <Ferriss> i dont have 9.10 though. i have an intrepid cd. i dont know if that's 9.04.
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> !rar | nixjr
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  yes
[08:12] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: no intrepid is 8.10
[08:13] <Ferriss> haha. I have 8.10 then. a full digit behind up to date
[08:13] <nixjr> thanks dr_willis
[08:13] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: you put intrepid on from that CD?  upgraded to jaunty/9.04 and then tried to upgrade to karmic/9.10 ?
[08:13] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: PM?
[08:13] <Ferriss> yeah
[08:14] <LMJ> Hi
[08:14] <Ferriss> would 8.10 to 9.10 work better? heh.
[08:14] <Ferriss> i could do that overnight
[08:14] <ogmious09> Hello hello
[08:14] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: 8.10 can't be directly upgraded to 9.10 have to go through 9.04 first
[08:15] <Ferriss> ahdang. i cant go through 9.04 either. haha. is there a different path i could use to getting to 9.10?
[08:15] <Ferriss> for
[08:15] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: 8.10 is my favourite release over all since 8.04, oh yes it's still good.   thing is it's going to run out of support in April or around then,  but then  10.04 comes out anyway which is the next Long Term Support relase.
[08:15] <Leoneof> hello?
[08:16] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: 9.10 offers little proper advantage from 8.10, same for 9.04.   unless people need it to say fix a hardware issue
[08:16] <Fantom__> what is default root pass on fresh installed Ubuntu?
[08:16] <Theresa> what is a terminal?
[08:16] <sebsebseb> !terminal | Theresa
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Fantom__:  there is no root password
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Fantom__:  use your user and their password is the 'sudo' password to get root access
[08:16] <LMJ> My PC (certainly after an upgrade) started to have strange behavior : it won't boot correctly anymore : I need 4/5 mins to get the login screen. I've seen it's stuck 2min at "Checking battery state..." It also doesn't stop by itself. What could the issue? Is it a new acpi bug or so?
[08:16] <Ferriss> oh okay. I just figured i'd try to be up to date as much as i could so when i got lazy i wouldnt get ridiculously out of date.
[08:16] <ardchoille> !root | Fantom__
[08:17] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: I see, well I  know what I would do if I was you
[08:17] <Theresa> ok, um im still trying to check my iso to the MD5SUMS
[08:17] <nixjr> is there a command to move all the files from a series of sub-directories, into their parent directory?
[08:18] <Ferriss> what's that? just stay on intrepid? i think i'll do that ._. in the morning, perhaps
[08:18] <ardchoille> nixjr: do they all have the same file extension?
[08:18] <Ferriss> or just trash my pos laptop
[08:18] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: either just buy some CD's and sort out a 9.10 CD and put it on.   or just put 8.10 on stay on 8.10 for now or upgrade to 9.04, and then do a clean install make a new CD of 10.04 when that comes out.  instead of  trying to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 again with it possibily going wrong.
[08:18] <swiftarrow> nixjr: mv *.* ./../*
[08:18] <swiftarrow> nixjr, try at own risk
[08:18] <Ferriss> hahaha. okay. Thanks for your help, sebsebseb : )
[08:18] <SmartSsa> nixjr, while in the parent : mv /subdir/* .
[08:19] <Ferriss> you're easily the most helpful person i've ever spoken to in here.
[08:19] <pat|nG> hello
[08:19] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: you got untill October with 9.04 by the way, when it comes to support
[08:19] <pat|nG> can anyone tell me where i can download a full ubuntu dvd with gnome?
[08:19] <Ferriss> okay
[08:19] <swiftarrow> pat|nG ubuntu.com
[08:19] <laughzilla> !sound
[08:20] <nixjr> SmartSsa, there are multiple subdir, would this also work? mv /subdir*/* . ?
[08:20] <ogmious09> anyone got experience with NX and Ubuntu?
[08:20] <swiftarrow> pat|nG, it's only a CD.  If you want more features, I personally suggest you download the SuperOS DVD.  It's the same as Ubuntu, but has more programs pre-loaded.
[08:20] <swiftarrow> pat|nG, hacktolive.com/SuperOS
[08:20] <Fantom__> Dr_Willis: is there available console, or it is only X ?
[08:20] <arieDOANK> hai
[08:20] <swiftarrow> pat|nG, or something like that
[08:20] <Fantom__> on ubuntu
[08:21] <SmartSsa> nixjr, as long as you can match the subdir's with a wildcard, yes it should work.
[08:21] <pat|nG> i see
[08:21] <sebsebseb> Ferriss: however eventaully your going to want to put on  Ubuntu 10.04  on (or 10.10 if you stayed on 9.04 untill it ran out of support,  or another distro of course)    CD R's are good to have.  Makes re installing and so on easier.   Well there are ot her ways to install such as USB sticks, but I never done that.
[08:21] <pat|nG> can u give me the link bro?
[08:21] <PacketCollision> Does anyone have any ideas on how to completely disable graphical terminal in 9.10? The server I'm working on just shows a blank screen when it boots up (ubuntu-server netboot install).
[08:21] <ardchoille> nixjr: you could try this from the parent dir:  find . -type f -exec mv /path {}\;   <== but change /path
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> Fantom__:  what?
[08:22] <PacketCollision> I edited /etc/default/grub and enabled GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[08:22] <swiftarrow> pat|nG, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=SuperOS+Download
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> PacketCollision:  disabel the gdm service.  if it exists..   but you are using the server edition?
[08:22] <nixjr> ardchoille, swiftarrow SmartSsa, thanks for the suggestions, i think ill make some dummy files to test them on first
[08:22] <Fantom__> Dr_Willis: i don't whant gnome/kde i want console?
[08:23] <swiftarrow> nixjr, good idea
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Fantom__:  then disable GDM to make it boot to the console if you want
[08:23] <Fantom__> ok
[08:23] <PacketCollision> Dr_Willis: gdm isn't installed
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> PacketCollision:  thats odd then.
[08:23] <SmartSsa> controlled experiments are always good.
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Fantom__:  on 9.10 -> $ sudo mv /etc/init/gdm.conf   /etc/init.d/gdm.conf.DISABLED
[08:24] <Fantom__> Dr_Willis i know a tool for disabling services...
[08:24] <Fantom__> i can't remember the name
[08:25] <ardchoille> Fantom__: sysv-rc-conf ?
[08:25] <linux_inferno> Hello All
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Fantom__:  9.10 uses Upstart now. many of those 'tools' dont work
[08:25] <Fantom__> aa yes
[08:25] <Fantom__> sysvconf
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Fantom__:  that may or mauy not work..
[08:25] <ardchoille> Fantom__: may not work on 9.10
[08:25] <maverick> attempting to open mplayer gives me this error: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.67: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory...no solutions from google...any help?
[08:25] <Fantom__> ardchoille :)
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[08:25] <PacketCollision> Dr_Willis: I disabled "quiet" in grub, and it shows the stuff that quiet hides at the start of the boot process, but then the screen goes blank, even with recovery mode
[08:25] <pat|nG> i download ubuntu 9.10 and i chose 64bit and it is amd64 is it awkie while i'm running intel chipset on my laptop?
[08:25] <pat|nG> i download ubuntu 9.10 and i chose 64bit and it is amd64 is it awkie while i'm running intel chipset on my laptop?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> PacketCollision:  perhaps use verbose, and nosplash, and nofb as options...
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  intel has 64bit cpus also
[08:26] <ernesto_> hallo
[08:26] <maverick> pat|ng: i think its ok as long as ur cpu is 64-bit
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> pat|nG:  amd64 reelase is for them as well
[08:26] <ardchoille> PacketCollision: you have to disable splash and quiet
[08:26] <drazak> I just don't understand
[08:26] <PacketCollision> Dr_Willis: good idea with nofb
[08:26] <PacketCollision> ardchoille: I did that already
[08:26] <Theresa> what do i do if the MD5SUMS are different?
[08:26] <drazak> installed amd64, and still only have 3gb of memory showing
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> PacketCollision:  im not even sure if fb is the default any more
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Theresa:  redownload.
[08:26] <ernesto_> jamand der deutsch spricht hir
[08:26] <drazak> it shows all 4gb in the bios
[08:27] <Theresa> NOOOO!
[08:27] <Myrtti> Theresa: try torrent download
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> drazak:  bios/hardware/reserved from what i gather.. sadly.   and yes ive seen others in here over the last few months with same issues.
[08:27] <SmartSsa> Theresa, redownload from a different mirror. if you used a torrent, the torrent should be able to pickup the 'broken' bits.
[08:28] <Theresa> im currently DL alternative is this acceptable?
[08:28] <nomad77> !de | ernesto_
[08:28] <maverick> attempting to open mplayer gives me this error: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.67: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory...no solutions from google...any help?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> start a torrent.. stop the torrent.. move file over.. tell torrent to reverify when you start torrent back up again. :)
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> it MIGHT fix it.
[08:28] <jazonknight> running 8.04 on m1330 and it only sees 3.5 which is ok
[08:28] <PacketCollision> I agree with Dr_Willis on this one
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> of course last time i downlaoded the ubuntu iso via torrent.. it took like.. 10 min.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> lagged out the rest of the network. :)
[08:29] <SmartSsa> is there a karma bot in this place? because i'd like to ++ Dr_Willis ;)
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> SmartSsa:  not thazt ive seen.. i will take cash...
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:29] <SmartSsa> haha..
[08:29] <sebsebseb> SmartSsa: no, but you can do !cookie Dr_Willis
[08:29] <SmartSsa> yeah, you just earned another.
[08:29]  * Dr_Willis just made an apple pie.
[08:29] <linux_inferno> PROBLEM:: running headless ubuntu server. Trying to render a frame with maya. I get " error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:30] <sebsebseb> !cookie |  Dr_Willis
[08:30] <linux_inferno> !cookie | linux_inferno
[08:30] <darkfuneral> are there any xml editors that can  give you the values of hte variables associate with the parents of a leaf, when you call to view the leaf?
[08:30] <Theresa> so is 'alternativeCD' a good download?
[08:30] <actionparsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:30] <SmartSsa> haha. cookies are fun.
[08:30] <sebsebseb> Theresa: only if desktop CD doesn't work properly
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> Theresa:  thats one with a text based installer.
[08:30] <sebsebseb> Theresa: then yes alternate  is worth a try
[08:31] <linux_inferno> I want a cookie =(
[08:31] <actionparsnip> Theresa: it installs faster too as it uses text based installer
[08:31] <sebsebseb> Theresa: first you need to ISO check your ISo for desktop, and do that CD check on the CD, if both are fine,  and still problems, you can try the alternate
[08:31] <actionparsnip> !cookie | linux_inferno
[08:31] <sebsebseb> Theresa: most users will use the Desktop CD
[08:31] <PacketCollision> Theresa: I prefer it because it's faster, but it's less friendly because it's text
[08:31] <linux_inferno> YAY! actionparsnip <3
[08:31] <Theresa> how difficult is the text based?
[08:31]  * actionparsnip uses minimal iso
[08:31] <sebsebseb> !cookie |  actionparsnip
[08:32] <actionparsnip> Ty sebsebseb
[08:32] <sebsebseb> Theresa: not that difficult, but it's useually better to use the Desktop CD really
[08:32] <Theresa> and how would i go about running the install process?
[08:32]  * PacketCollision actually netboots the text-installer from a tftp server, but the idea is the same
[08:32] <sebsebseb> !cookie |  sebsebseb
[08:32] <actionparsnip> Theresa: there's a desktop icon
[08:32] <linux_inferno> Can anyone help me with my st00pid problem?