[07:56] <shadeofgrey> heres whgat i need to know -- as soon as i download xubuntu id like to install it on my 3rd disk -- because it currently has a very old install of ubuntu breezy on it that i dont need anymore
[07:56] <cwraig> d
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> what i need to know is -- how do i install xubuntu on the third disk and then make sure that an entry is added to the grub list on my primary disk?  bvecause i dont want to install xubuntu and have it put another bootloader in the mbr of third disk
[07:57] <Bob535> for example my down key will not work while running xconfig in terminal
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> is that in any way unclear?
[07:57] <Bob535> it just takes a screen shot
[07:57] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation   for installing without burning.
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> i dont mind burning.
[07:57] <shadeofgrey> thats notthe issue
 it should look for an existing copy of grub and just use it
[07:58] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: oh, um, when you install xubuntu, it'll install grub, and it should detect everything.  If you DONT want to risk it not working, just add an entry to your grub menu.
 it should just od it automaticly. ive done it before without a prob
[07:58] <shadeofgrey> i need to know how to tell the xubuntu installer to add a entry to grub on my primary disk rather than installing grub AGAIN on the third disk
[07:58] <Unix_n_Coffee> i know alien converts rpm to deb but is that stable with my package? could anything go wrong?
[07:58] <WillyMF1> Hi, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu. It seems to stall out showing ATA messages... I have a Asus P4G8X Deluxe MB with onboard SATA controller and a WD Raptor drive. A few months ago I could boot off the CD but could not partition... now I cant even get to the GUI stage.
 you should just be able to folow the prompts like a normal install it should do what you want automaticly
[07:59] <rixth> It's funny, Totem will play the non-free formats(mov, wmv etc) but will not play XviD.
[08:00] <Flannel> WillyMF1: try installing from the alternate ISO
[08:00] <shadeofgrey> okay.
[08:00] <Unix_n_Coffee> rixth VLC ;)
[08:00] <rixth> VLC is yucky looking
[08:00] <WillyMF1> Flannel: alright. Thank you
[08:00] <shadeofgrey> so i should selkect NOT installing grub when ik do the install of xubuntu and then add a link to it in the grub menu thats on my primary disk
[08:00] <shadeofgrey> i can handle that
[08:01] <shadeofgrey> hoiw do i make the new entry in the grub menu that already exists tho?
[08:01] <girish> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance which i get while using Windows XP on Ubuntu. Is there something i can do?
[08:01] <gdb> Unix_n_Coffee: It will install its files in places that are appropriate for an RPM based system (most likely Red Hat/Fedora).  These locations will generally be compatible with a Debian based system, but may not be.  For example, a user application like, say, gaim, is likely to work correctly.  A system utility or application like, for example, iptables, is not likely to work.
[08:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> at least it works  :) i installed many of codecs too :)) everything on my ubuntu comp is working perfect!
[08:01] <slid3r> hey newb question: bash: make: command not found ... um
[08:01] <slid3r> what?
[08:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> ok thanks gdb
[08:01] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[08:02] <gdb> Unix_n_Coffee: All of the proprietary codecs are provided in the Universe and Multiverse repositories.
[08:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> i know how to install it just curious ;) thanks again gdb
[08:02] <verbose> slid3r: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[08:02] <gdb> Unix_n_Coffee: Packages specifically for Ubuntu.
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> god i love bittorrent
[08:02] <slid3r> nice
[08:02] <slid3r> thx
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> im pulling xubuntu iso at almost 600k a sec
[08:02] <gdb> build-essential, there is no trailing 's' ;-)
[08:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> gdb thanks ... tho its a torrent download
[08:02] <Unix_n_Coffee> limewire pro
[08:02] <shadeofgrey> the full CD will take 7 mins to download at that rate
[08:02] <verbose> gdb: oops, thanks
[08:02] <slid3r> gotcha
[08:02] <verbose> sorry slid3r
[08:02] <slid3r> heh thx both
[08:02] <gdb> Unix_n_Coffee: No worries, most software will work fine when converted with alien, just be advised that not *all* software will work.
[08:02] <slid3r> nooo worries
[08:03] <Unix_n_Coffee> gdb thanks :))
[08:03] <shadeofgrey> hey i had a question
[08:03] <girish> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance which i get while using Windows XP on Ubuntu. Is there something i can do?
[08:03] <shadeofgrey> is ubuntu or other distributions of linux capable of handling quad core and quad sli graphics setups
[08:04] <shadeofgrey> im thiunking about buying one of the quad sli machines from alienware -- with 6 gig of ram running at 800mghz and a 1 ghtz fronmtside bus
[08:04] <nicholaspaul> I think i messed up - I booted from an install disk to format a drive, then when i removed it and restarted, it hangs after the BIOS. Could the install have messed up somehow?
[08:04] <shadeofgrey> but i wont bother if all of you say its impossible to take advantage oif the dual core set of 2processors and the four nvidia  graphics cards
[08:04] <cwraig> quad core (better then windows) but quad sli (support is very minimal)
[08:05] <holycow> shadeofgrey, its not even that, wtf are you going to use it for?
[08:05] <shadeofgrey> okay what about just SLI then
[08:05] <holycow> apps haveto be coded to use smp
[08:05] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: try google.  Nvidias been pretty helpful to linux.
[08:05] <holycow> there aren't that many that actualy are built for smp first, and second most apps don't need it
[08:05] <shadeofgrey> holycrow; so that i can run absolutely anything i want
[08:05] <holycow> shadeofgrey, anything what?
[08:05] <holycow> there is nothing really built for smp
[08:06] <cwraig> if you use smp and switch to a source based distro like (debian) everything should be optimised? isnt that rigth?
[08:06] <gdb> shadeofgrey: Regardless of Linux taking advantage of it, I can guarantee *you* won't take advantage of that much hardware, and your money would be better spent on something else.
[08:06] <holycow> cwraig, everything is a source based distro
[08:06] <girish> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:06] <Evil_Ed`> yo
[08:06] <shadeofgrey> holycrow; well, blender...gimp...  and then with all the ram and shit i can wine photoshop CS2 and all the other windows apps i cant use in linux
[08:06] <holycow> cwraig, and what you mean to say is either gentoo or bsd, debian isn't built with that in mind
[08:06] <gdb> Neither is BSD.
[08:06] <holycow> shadeofgrey, quad systems are meant for VERY VERY special purpose tasks
[08:07] <verbose> solaris probably has the best threading support
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> yeah?
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> so?
[08:07] <gdb> And very very very few Gentoo users actually take advantage of "processor optimization" which really doesn't make a noticable difference.
[08:07] <nicholaspaul> so other than arguinng about gear, can someone help me with my menial problem?
[08:07] <holycow> shadeofgrey, those machines are meant for basically big business types of apps
[08:07] <holycow> shadeofgrey, i don't mean 10 million dollar size businesses, i mean banks
[08:07] <cwraig> nicholas > yea
[08:07] <owen_> i dont know if gparted live cd was suppost to show me a GUI - but i have no idea what to do at the prompt once it loads everything to format nfts partitions
[08:07] <sethk> gdb, and the gcc compiler, in fact, has no meaningful optimizations for p4 or newer processors
[08:07] <nicholaspaul> hi cwraig. is my system recoverable?
[08:07] <holycow> shadeofgrey, you mostly run databases, apps that require a lot of processing power, etc
[08:07] <gdb> shadeofgrey: The point being that spending that much for that hardware for your desktop, instead of impressing people, calls your judgement into question. ;-)
[08:07] <verbose> i don't see where quad sli comes in to play at all though for businesses
[08:07] <shadeofgrey> im very physically handicapped -- as a result i cant drive, i cant play console video games because ionly have one hand that works and hot women dont like dating cripples.  the only thing in life that i have to take pride in is my compuyting setup and i see no reason why i shouldnt buy my own dream machine
[08:08] <holycow> shadeofgrey, there isn't ANYTHING, and i mean ANYTHING on the consumer or even prosumer level that can use that properly
[08:08] <verbose> i think that's just a machine people would buy for bragging rights?
[08:08] <phargle> quad sli, so like 8 cards?
[08:08] <gidim> Ubuntu doesn't love me. :(
[08:08] <phargle> are these dual core video cards too?
[08:08] <shadeofgrey> no
[08:08] <phargle> :)
[08:08] <nicholaspaul> Can you guys please take the arguements somewhere else??
[08:08] <holycow> shadeofgrey, namely, if you get a single cpu system there is NOTHING you can litterally use 3ghz cpu to its full power unless you are rendering 100% of the time
[08:09] <holycow> shadeofgrey, not saying don't buy it, it's your choice, its just that a quad is a very special machine designed for special jobs, usually needing very high level specialist skills to properly use
[08:09] <nicholaspaul> holycow: can you guys please take this somewhere offtopic? Thank you.
[08:09] <holycow> shadeofgrey, for example, when your running oracle on a quad cpu, you need an oracle admin (certified) to properly optimize it
[08:10] <shadeofgrey> holycrow; can  you even remotely conceive of living a life where both your legs and one arm are useless - as a result its a pain in the ass to go jyust about anywhere - and the only thing you have to look forward to is computing? because literally everything else is stuff you can watch but never do youreself?
[08:10] <holycow> shadeofgrey, i'll leave it at that
[08:10] <asathoor> how can I synchronize Kontact with my Motorola phone?
[08:10] <nicholaspaul> shadeofgrey: I think they answered your question.
[08:11] <holycow> shadeofgrey, i'm only explaining what that machine is designed for and what you kinda need to be aware of before you buy it.
[08:11] <holycow> shadeofgrey, purchasing decisions are personal tho :) i completely get where you are comming from
[08:11] <gdb> I'd spend my $6k at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch instead.
[08:12] <nicholaspaul> hi cwraig. Are you the only one offering to help?
[08:12] <holycow> i'd spend the money on training ... if computing is a passion, become good at it.  the toys come pretty much automagically because you tend to get work in those areas
[08:12] <shadeofgrey> holycrow; i sincerely doubt you even remotely understand where im coming from...  but ill accept the fact that your trying.
[08:12] <gdb> Linux will use all 4 CPUs, it will use all 6GB of RAM.  I have no idea on the video card, I'll lay money the answer is "no".
[08:13] <nicholaspaul>  ignore holycow
[08:13] <nicholaspaul> oops
[08:13] <sethk> shadeofgrey, it's natural engineering think to say, justify the cost of the machine.  If you use it for pleasure, however, that's a completely different thing
[08:13] <shadeofgrey> so what if i dedicated 3 cpus to a good distributed computing project?
[08:13] <holycow> shadeofgrey, seth summed up my thoughts in one sentence
[08:13] <phargle> my computer pleasures me
[08:13] <sethk> shadeofgrey, if it is interesting to you, then that's a cost justification in itself
[08:14] <holycow> i don't think it is
[08:14] <slid3r> any one know why when trying to make a kern image I, I sudo make ... and I get:  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[08:14] <nicholaspaul> Is this about Ubuntu? Sorry i was looking for the ubuntu channel.
[08:14] <shadeofgrey> and besides...  ill need all the pwoier i can get to run vista
[08:14] <holycow> if you want distributed computing, for 6k you can get A LOT of boxes
[08:14] <sethk> nicholaspaul, what's ubuntu?
[08:14] <Bob535> Godamn, hate this not having a root user
[08:14] <Bob535> how do i create root
[08:14] <Bob535> ?
[08:14] <sethk> Bob535, you do have a root user
[08:14] <nicholaspaul> sethk: i'm trying to remember
[08:14] <gdb> Bob535: root is already there
[08:14] <gidim> I've made two CDs. Neither work.
[08:14] <sethk> Bob535, you just have to set the password
[08:14] <holycow> let me see ... for 6k i can get what ... 15 boxes at 3ghz each?
[08:14] <gdb> Don't even have to set the password.
[08:15] <gdb> Use sudo -i for an interactive shell.
[08:15] <sethk> Bob535, which you can do.  you can do the equivalent also with sudo -i
[08:15] <holycow> you can do a lot more with that than you will with a quad smp machine honestly
[08:15] <shadeofgrey> you cant build 16 computers with 6 grand
[08:15] <Bob535> i hate sudu
[08:15] <Bob535> i want to be able to su
[08:15] <gidim> I'm tired, I have no OS on my system anymore, so it's Live CD or nothing.
[08:15] <sethk> Bob535, sudo passwd
[08:15] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Bob535 about sudo
[08:15] <PeterPowell> hi akk
[08:15] <PeterPowell> *all
[08:15] <Madpilot> Bob535, see the PM the bot just sent you...
[08:15] <PeterPowell> sethk,
[08:15] <sethk> Bob535, then enter _your_ password at the first password prompt.  then, you'll get the normal unix password change prompt
[08:15] <Bob535> i know what it does
[08:15] <PeterPowell> that install worked last night
[08:15] <Unix_n_Coffee> gidim try breezy bagger and just upgrade from breezy bagger to dapper?
[08:15] <gdb> Why do you hate sudo when "sudo -i" and entering your own password is *exactly the same* as typing su - and entering root's password?
[08:15] <sethk> PeterPowell, good, glad to here it
[08:16] <gidim> Huh?
[08:16] <Unix_n_Coffee> hold on :)
[08:16] <Bob535> ah, thanks gdb
[08:16] <Bob535> that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy, its pretty
[08:16] <jon_> can someone help me download and install realplayer? i tried going by the help guide but its not working
[08:16] <holycow> shadeofgrey, a quad is simply a very special machine designed for a specific task ... i would take 2k build a bunch of machines or whatever, and start there.  when you really start maxing that out you will KNOW if you need a quad :)
[08:16] <gdb> Bob535: sudo -i = su - while sudo -s = su (without the dash)
[08:16] <holycow> its a good questiontho
[08:16] <sethk> on the other hand, it's fairly obvious that if sudo -i is exactly the same as su -, then sudo -i is equally dangerous
[08:17] <gdb> It just gives you a "root login" while sudo -s gives you a "root shell", ala su - and su
[08:17] <gdb> Meaning the full shebang with # prompt and everything!
[08:17] <WillyMF1> shadeofgrey: my father had a stroke several years ago, and has only one good arm now. do you have any tips for his computer imput? do you use a regular keyboard? he takes a little while. I would /t you but its not allowed apparently
[08:17] <Flannel> Bob535: be advised, however, once you set a root password, some features of ubuntu cease to work correctly
[08:17] <WillyMF1> damnit
[08:17] <gdb> WillyMF1: If you register your nick with NickServ, you can send private messages to anyone.
[08:18] <Unix_n_Coffee> http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/06/upgrading_to_dapper_turboprint.html
[08:18] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[08:18] <gdb> Flannel: That bug was fixed.
[08:18] <gdb> Flannel: and the fix was backported all the way to Hoary.
[08:18] <doughboy> I am trying to get a windows app to run in wine. The app is Students Guide to APA Format. This program comes in handy for school. So far no luck getting it to set up under wine. Any suggestions that might help?
[08:18] <Flannel> gdb: er, which fix?  The rescue mode boot?
[08:18] <gdb> Flannel: The bug where some control panels would not run correctly (or at all) if root had a password set.
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> ok, here I have a problem
[08:19] <holycow> !crossoveroffice
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about crossoveroffice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> my laptop's in ubuntu, and now my hard drive access light is going solid.
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> for no apparent reason.
[08:19] <Flannel> gdb: no, I'm talking about the recovery console.
[08:19] <gdb> As for rescue mode boot, I assume you mean single user mode where you're prompted for the root password if one is set, or drop to a shell if it's not.  That works as expected.
[08:19] <gidim> This has been my day: download AMD64 ISO, burn to CD using a program... forget which, but it worked. Boot to CD, fine. Install... freezes at 57%. Scan for errors, getting mismatch out the wazoo in /pool/main... download the ISO again from command line, burn to CD with Nautilus, use that CD to boot and it won't load or check for errors.
[08:19] <verbose> BHSPitMonkey: maybe a cron job
[08:19] <gdb> Flannel: if you mean something other than single user mode, I'm not aware of the issue.
[08:19] <BHSPitMonkey> verbose, nothing I explicitly set up myself.
[08:20] <Flannel> gidim: burn slower
[08:20] <gidim> So... oh, did I mention I lost my NTFS partition during the first attempted install?
[08:20] <gdb> doh!
[08:20] <gdb> gidim: Flannel's suggestion is probably the way to go. ;-)
[08:20] <gidim> So, it's Ubuntu or bust. :D
[08:20] <BHSPitMonkey> verbose, it's slowing down the OS noticeably, and the gnome panel is unresponsive
[08:20] <Unix_n_Coffee> http://www.debuntu.org is a nice website ;)
[08:20] <BHSPitMonkey> this ain't good.
[08:20] <gidim> If I weren't so tired I might've thought of it.
[08:20] <doughboy> wine
[08:20] <gidim> Recommendations? 4x?
[08:20] <Flannel> gidim: 4x is good.
[08:20] <afflux> morgen...
[08:21] <Flannel> gidim: or, at least, that's what we suggest to people ;)
[08:21] <gidim> Okay, I only have one CDR left.
[08:21] <PeterPowell> lol
[08:21] <BHSPitMonkey> windows is corrupt enough to begin with
[08:21] <gidim> And once I install full here I'll be able to see my NTFS 300GB?
[08:21] <gidim> I miss my mp3 collection.
[08:22] <Flannel> gidim: ubuntu can see it, yes.  Assuming it's still there and stuff.
[08:22] <gidim> I'm not going back to XP, despite my long night of pain, I love my sadistic little Ubuntu.
[08:22] <Unix_n_Coffee> peterpwell u dont need windows ;)
[08:22] <gidim> Hey now, I never touched D!
[08:22] <gidim> I only reformatted C.
[08:22] <Unix_n_Coffee> anyone here use windows?
[08:22] <PeterPowell> Unix_n_Coffee,
[08:22] <PeterPowell> it was on my dads machine
[08:22] <PeterPowell> lol
[08:23] <Unix_n_Coffee> PeterPowell , good job :)) give him gnucash ;) he'll be all set
[08:23] <gidim> I'm free from my bondage at the hands of Dark Overlord Gates.
[08:23] <bigbill52a> you can copy files from linux using explore2fs.exe
[08:23] <Unix_n_Coffee> buy him a office suite openoffice.org :)
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> there
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> my laptop, in ubuntu, is now completely frozen.
[08:23] <BHSPitMonkey> unresponsive to attempts to kill X, or switch VT's
[08:23] <bigbill52a> you can copy or use files from ntfs partition
[08:24] <PeterPowell> *towers
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> this is crazy.
[08:24] <Unix_n_Coffee> BHSPitMonkey mine freezes too i have to i have to do ctrl alt and f1 then f7 or f6
[08:24] <BHSPitMonkey> Unix_n_Coffee, what did I just say.
[08:24] <bigbill52a> i have all my music on ntfs partition, but i play them with amorok
[08:25] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, sounds like an IRQ Problem
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> BHSPitMonkey your laptop freezes?
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> Unix_n_Coffee, if that worked, it wouldn't be "frozen"
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> mmhmm
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> oh do this then
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> ctrl alt backspace?
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> :)
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> "<BHSPitMonkey> unresponsive to attempts to kill X, or switch VT's"
[08:25] <Unix_n_Coffee> save u some time :)
[08:25] <ompaul> BHSPitMonkey, rather than doing anything can you leave it for a while - 40 minutes and see if it unfreezes
[08:25] <BHSPitMonkey> I don't plan on staying awake for 40 more minutes :P
[08:26] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, the only thing you can do is a hard reset.  Hopefully something in a log file will tell you what happened.
[08:26] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, waiting 40 minutes won't change anything.
[08:26] <ompaul> sethk, depends on what the load is like
[08:26] <floppyears> hi
[08:26] <BHSPitMonkey> my HDD access light is still solid, and hasn't changed for a while.
[08:26] <floppyears> I'm trying to install ubuntu in my mac intel
[08:26] <bigbill52a> you can also make a 32 gig or less fat32 partition and read and write from both linux and windows xp...i use to keep one as a scratch partition for sharing files back and forth from the two operating systems
[08:26] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, it isn't going to change.
[08:26] <ompaul> I have seen runnaway processes calm down over time
[08:26] <floppyears> are there any tips or rules that I can take a look at ?
[08:27] <sethk> ompaul, no, a runaway process won't block control-alt-backspace and alt-f1
[08:27] <smerity> hey, do you guys know what Gnome/Ubuntu uses for detecting Sambas? It's all really nice and integrated, and I wouldn't mind putting the same thing on my Gentoo box
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> I don't hear the hdd actually doing anything, though, so I guess a hard reset is safe.
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> *sigh*
[08:27] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, actually, no, it isn't safe
[08:27] <ompaul> sethk, but might stop it from working for a while (all lagged out)
[08:27] <sethk> BHSPitMonkey, but you have no choice
[08:27] <BHSPitMonkey> I might as well be booting into windows on this thing.
[08:27] <sparkleytone> floppyears: are you dual booting or single booting?
[08:27] <sethk> ompaul, a while, like 30 seconds, a minute, perhaps.  longer than that?  no.
[08:28] <ompaul> sethk, I have seen minutes - it was not X it was a mail server that had gotten opinions on how to deal with stuff
[08:28] <ompaul> BHSPitMonkey, can you ssh into it?
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> no
[08:28] <BHSPitMonkey> I already did the hard reset.
[08:28] <sparkleytone> floppyears: if you want to dual-boot... http://refit.sf.net ... if you want to only boot ubuntu...repartition the drive as ms-dos and install as you would a normal pc
[08:29] <ompaul> BHSPitMonkey, before you start the box again press esc and do some of the stuff off this
[08:29] <jon_> how do you change the the directory you download a file at the command line?
[08:29] <ompaul> !bootoptions > BHSPitMonkey
[08:29] <jon_> im not sure how to get to the command line
[08:29] <smerity> So no-one knows? You basically just went Places > Networked and it automatically populated from shares available on the network
[08:29] <ompaul> jon_, applications - accessories - terminak
[08:30] <jon_> thnx
[08:30] <floppyears> sparkleytone: dual booting
[08:30] <ompaul> jon_, spell terminak with an l at the end :)
[08:30] <jon_> hm
[08:30] <sparkleytone> floppyears: see above.  http://refit.sf.net
[08:30] <sethk> smerity, samba has a scan feature
[08:30] <jon_> then what do i do?
[08:30] <sparkleytone> floppyears: its a great program
[08:30] <Tsukino> anyone here know acpi? more specifically, how to turn throttling on?
[08:31] <smerity> sethk, I know, but Ubuntu's Gnome seems to automatically have a few things in it, was just trying to find what that was - thanks anyawy
[08:31] <floppyears> sparkleytone: thanks
[08:31] <ompaul> what do you want to download from where - then where do you want to put it - this will dictate what is next
[08:31] <floppyears> sparkleytone: do you have a macintel and dual boot yourself ?
[08:31] <sethk> smerity, you can trace the execution of the file browser and find out what it runs
[08:32] <smerity> sethk - yeah, don't have an ubuntu install with me, all good tho
[08:32] <BHSPitMonkey> *sigh* I have to get to sleep.
[08:32] <BHSPitMonkey> night, ubuntu.
[08:32] <MistaED> hey i have a friend here who is trying to install dapper i386 with the desktop installer, he gets to it installing but at 98% the whole computer locks up, any ideas why? very vague but that's about all the info i can get, i'll try to get him in here
[08:33] <filosofo_de_bar> cwraig, ive finished testing the md5sum. it's ok, matching all the files on the cd and the iso on the site
[08:33] <filosofo_de_bar> what should i do now?
[08:33] <ompaul> jon_ what do you want to download from where - then where do you want to put it - this will dictate what is next
[08:34] <FloK_> should php cgi work out of the box on 6.06 when apache2 and php is installed?
[08:34] <jon_> i dl realplayer
[08:34] <jon_> i want to install it
[08:34] <jon_> thats all i really know, the help guide is trying to confuse me
[08:34] <FloK_> i try phpmyadmin and apache doesnt handle it
[08:34] <human> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:35] <sparkleytone> floppyears: i single-boot ubuntu-server on my colocated intel mini
[08:36] <backz> I was instaled xubuntu-desktop package on my ubuntu. But I was back to ubuntu-desktop (I really prefer gnome), it changed my boot screem to "XUBUNTU" logo. How I change it again to default ubuntu logo at boot screem ?
[08:36] <jon_> basically it wants me to make the bin file i downloaded executable
[08:36] <jon_> thats what im stuck on
[08:37] <sethk> jon_, chmod +x filename
[08:37] <jon_> type that in the terminal?
[08:37] <afflux> any ideas why my icons in kde-apps have gone? this happend some time after I installed QtCurve... May this be the problem?
[08:37] <floppyears> sparkleytone: nice
[08:37] <bayzider> ok im not even sure if this question belongs here
[08:37] <sethk> jon_, yes,   filename is the name of the file you downloaded.   chmod -x says "make executable"
[08:38] <human> backz: u can make it anything by configuring the login screen u have the tool in start menu
[08:38] <jon_> it says cannot access, no such file or directory
[08:38] <bayzider> i have ubuntu and windwos dual booted and im tryingto install ipl and im useing the aes ultilty (its kinda like fidsk) but when i look at all my drives and partions and shit my ipod is not listed just some random 8mb drive and windows ubuntu and swap
[08:38] <jon_> but i know the fle is there, its on my desktop
[08:39] <backz> human, it isn't gdm. is booting screen
[08:40] <human> backz :wat exactly u want?
[08:40] <bayzider> any one
[08:40] <ompaul> !realplayer > jon_   it is in the repos
[08:40] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:40] <backz> human, change the screen logo at kernel boot time to default ubuntu logo.
[08:40] <backz> not xubuntu
[08:40] <backz> =P
[08:40] <ompaul> !repos > jon_
[08:41] <jon_> i dunno what the repository is or how to get to it
[08:41] <Amaranth> ubotu: botsnack
[08:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about botsnack - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:41] <Amaranth> grr
[08:41] <bayzider> any one
[08:41] <jon_> are you making the bot talk to me?
[08:41] <gidim> It's late, I'm tired, I can't even for the life of me remember where my ISO is downloaded to, let alone what to do with it after I find it...
[08:42] <ompaul> jon_, yes you need multiverse
[08:42] <ompaul> jon_, then you can install it from synaptic
[08:42] <human> backz: u juzt install art manager software it will help u in all way related to display
[08:42] <mournahan> Azureus in ubuntu help
[08:42] <TheGame> is there a shockwave plugin for linux
[08:42] <mournahan> I ger DHT firewalled
[08:43] <jon_> okay but shouldnt chmod work?
[08:43] <human> backz: u can configure anything with art manager
[08:43] <bayzider> any one i really need help
[08:43] <human> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:43] <TheGame> anyone?
[08:43] <thundr> TheGame, there is a flash plugin, not sure about shockwave
[08:43] <ompaul> !anyone
[08:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:43] <TheGame> ya i have flash
[08:44] <noiesmo> no shockwave for linux
[08:44] <thundr> ompaul, he's already asked his main question
[08:44] <TheGame> hmm
[08:44] <thundr> yet
[08:44] <bayzider> hello
[08:44] <debrisss> whoa - lotsa people in here!
[08:44] <thundr> yeah
[08:44] <debrisss> hey everyone
[08:44] <noiesmo> hey debrisss
[08:44] <thundr> hi debrisss
[08:44] <debrisss> :)
[08:44] <TheGame> hmm
[08:45] <jon_> where do i get multiverse?
[08:45] <debrisss> who wants to congratulate me for successfully switching to ubuntu, AND liking it??? :)
[08:45] <pepe> first time in here
[08:45] <afflux> me!
[08:45] <pepe> 763 people connected?
[08:45] <afflux> congratulations debrisss!
[08:45] <thundr> congratulations, debrisss :)
[08:45] <noiesmo> !multiverse
[08:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:45] <bayzider> can some one help me
[08:45] <noiesmo> !easysource
[08:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:45] <debrisss> i even got my pocket pc to SYNC!!!
[08:45] <sethk> bayzider, not unless you ask a question
[08:46] <human> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:46] <bayzider> i already did
[08:46] <bayzider> ill paste
[08:46] <ompaul> bayzider, maybe no one has the answer to your queiston,. and please stop with the anyone - ask once wait 15 if no answer ask again
[08:46] <Madpilot> pepe, 763 is a slightly slow day in in #ubuntu :)
[08:46] <thundr> bayzider, don't paste
[08:46] <sethk> bayzider, I didn't see a question, don't paste more than a line or two
[08:46] <debrisss> one question - is there an easy way to upgrade firefox to the latest beta?
[08:47] <bayzider>  have ubuntu and windwos dual booted and im tryingto install ipl and im useing the aes ultilty (its kinda like fidsk) but when i look at all my drives and partions and shit my ipod is not listed just some random 8mb drive and windows ubuntu and swap
[08:47] <ompaul> bayzider, also maybe you would like to use the full words
[08:47] <ompaul> !langauge
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about langauge - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <ompaul> !language
[08:47] <thundr> !language
[08:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:47] <sethk> !spelling   :)
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about spelling   :) - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:47] <ompaul> thundr, still slow :)
[08:47] <jon_> where do i go to get multiverse?
[08:47] <thundr> :)
[08:47] <ompaul> jon_, I sent you the link
[08:47] <jon_> oh you did? my bad
[08:47] <debrisss> is there an easy way to upgrade firefox to the latest beta?
[08:48] <jon_> i didnt see it on the page
[08:48] <jon_> just info
[08:48] <RunUO22748> debrisss yes there is
[08:48] <debrisss> ooh - do tell!
[08:48] <ompaul> !multiverse jon_
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about multiverse jon_ - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:48] <ompaul> !multiverse > jon_
[08:48] <human> debrisss: cannot u do that with synaptic package manage
[08:48] <human> ?
[08:48] <RunUO22748> debrisss chance repo then apt-get
[08:48] <debrisss> chance repo?
[08:49] <debrisss> which repo has firefox beta?
[08:49] <RunUO22748> debrisss uh the unstable thing
[08:49] <human> hi all.....i have AMD2400 with asus n8xvm board which supports sharing ram video processing but i dont get the performance on Ubuntu.which i used to get while using Windows XP.  Is there something i can do?
[08:50] <sethk> human, you mean specifically about the video performance?  You may be able to configure X to use a frame buffer
[08:50] <Hiryu> is it possible to install eclipse without gcj? I want to use eclipse and azureus using sun's jdk, not gcj
[08:50] <debrisss> still lost - which repo? I have all of them except for LTS backports enabled
[08:51] <sethk> Hiryu, I don't  know about azureus, but I've used eclipse with sun's java jdk.  installed from tarball, though, not from repositories
[08:51] <noiesmo> human, you can specfiy videoRAM in xorg.conf might help you
[08:51] <pfalcone> Hiryu - it is indeed possible
[08:51] <human> sethk: i tried to run the race game torcs but the performance doesn't match while running  NFS on WindowsX
[08:51] <pfalcone> you'd have to rename something in /etc/eclipse to look for the proper JVM
[08:52] <debrisss> ...
[08:52] <debrisss> anyone know the repository that has firefox beta on it?
[08:52] <sethk> human, you an try configuring X to use the frame buffer, which implies sharing the video memory
[08:52] <human> sethk: how to configure X to use frame buffer
[08:52] <human> ?
[08:52] <Hiryu> hmm
[08:52] <Hiryu> looks like the /usr/bin/java link points to the wrong java
[08:52] <Hiryu> how do I run update-alternatives to get it to point to the correct java?
[08:53] <human> sethk: is it by addin vga line to grub?
[08:53] <sethk> human, no, that has nothing to do with x
[08:53] <farous> Hiryu: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:54] <sethk> human, it's complicated, involving kernel configuration as well as X configuration.  Look for info on the web; I've not done it with that particular video board.
[08:54] <ompaul> !timetable > debrisss
[08:54] <consentm> is there any way to read reiserfs partition from windows?
[08:54] <ompaul> debrisss, I do not believe there is such a beast for dapper
[08:54] <human> sethk: ok
[08:55] <Olathe> consentm : http://yareg.akucom.de/
[08:55] <thundr> there is?  cool.
[08:55] <debrisss> ompaul: you mean no repository for dapper with firefox beta on it?
[08:55] <Hiryu> ok, I think I figured it out
[08:55] <Hiryu> it's like update-java-alternatives
[08:55] <ompaul> debrisss, that is what I mean
[08:55] <human> f
[08:55] <debrisss> ompaul: ok, so how do i install firefox beta without apt-get?
[08:56] <ompaul> debrisss, read the message from ubotu to explain why we don't chase those options (most of the time)
[08:56] <jon_> arent packages different than programs?
[08:56] <ompaul> jon_, a package is a program with all the parts needed to make that program run
[08:57] <debrisss> ompaul: still doesn't change the fact that i've tested firefox beta, like it a LOT and want it on my system ;)
[08:58] <sethk> jon_, depends.  some are groups of programs, but a package can be a set of files for a single program.
[08:58] <ompaul> debrisss, well I have not looked - has anyone packaged it for Ubuntu dapper? if so then download it [IF YOU TRUST THEM]  and do dpkg -i firefox.whatevernametheygaveit
[08:58] <ompaul> debrisss, and also if you do install it will it break your dapper?
[08:59] <debrisss> ompaul: i don't know if ANYONE has done it - i've found the tar.gz
[08:59] <jon_> why wont my compter recognize a file on my desktop?
[08:59] <ompaul> debrisss, and also I'll retype that: if you install will it break your dapper?
[08:59] <sethk> jon_, what do you mean by "not recognize"?
[08:59] <jon_> it wont let me change it in the terminal
[09:00] <debrisss> ompaul: i don't know, i've only read about linux users who got it working no problem, so i imagine that it won't break my dapper
[09:00] <ompaul> from what to what?
[09:00] <jon_> bin to exe
[09:00] <sethk> jon_, what do you mean by "it won't let me"?  instead of misinterpreting what is happening, tell us what you type and what happens.
[09:00] <jon_> with the chmod
[09:00] <ompaul> jon_, there is no exe in linux world :-) and chmod does not do that job
[09:00] <jon_> im sorry
[09:00] <jon_> make the bin executable
[09:00] <jon_> with chmod +x
[09:01] <ompaul> jon_, this is realplayer there is one in the repos ... use it
[09:01] <jon_> but the terminal thinks i have no such file
[09:01] <sethk> jon_, because the file is not in your home directory, it is in $HOME/Desktop
[09:01] <sethk> jon_, you do have no such file.  because it isn't in the directory where your command line starts.
[09:01] <sethk> jon_, so do this:   cd Desktop
[09:02] <sethk> jon_, then do     ls     which lists files.  you should see the file
[09:02] <thelance> hey new user here
[09:03] <thelance> does anyone know how i can install VLC?
[09:03] <jon_> cd desktop on the terminal?
[09:03] <Madpilot> jon_, cd Desktop - case matter in Linux
[09:03] <sethk> jon_, not desktop, Desktop.   you have to type the correct things.
[09:03] <Madpilot> matters, even
[09:03] <thelance> ?
[09:03] <ompaul> debrisss, give me a few minutes to look see but frankly, I strongly suggest against it, wait until it is packaged by someone who knows what they are doing
[09:03] <jon_> right on
[09:03] <jon_> awesome
[09:04] <rixxon> why am i never successfull with connecting to wlans?
[09:04] <sethk> jon_, to save typing, you could have done this:    cd De<tab>
[09:04] <debrisss> ompaul: i haven't found anything YET, but i'd be surprised if nobody had packaged it yet - firefox beta rocks
[09:04] <thelance> df
[09:04] <sethk> jon_, the tab key will complete the word for you, in this case Desktop
[09:04] <thelance> can anyone see my typing?
[09:04] <thelance> anyone?
[09:04] <kedarguru> yeah
[09:04] <rixxon> yes
[09:04] <kedarguru> alright
[09:04] <thelance> k just wondering
[09:04] <sethk> thelance, no, we can't see anything
[09:04] <kedarguru> did you just try
[09:04] <ompaul> debrisss, question a beta of what version
[09:04] <kedarguru> sudo apt-get install vcl?
[09:04] <jon_> good times
[09:04] <debrisss> ompaul: 2.0
[09:05] <debrisss> beta 1
[09:05] <kedarguru> *vlc my bad
[09:05] <thelance> k
[09:05] <jon_> will it tell me if chmod +x worked?
[09:05] <jon_> or just skip to another line?
[09:05] <kedarguru> u pretty much use that to install anything
[09:05] <thelance> it couldn't find it
[09:05] <consentm> Olathe: Thanks :) You just made my day- I never thought these files could be retrieved from the reiserfs partition-
[09:06] <shawnr_> ahhh, just finished installing ubuntu 64
[09:06] <kedarguru> ahhh someone help me
[09:06] <kedarguru> the totem plugin for firefox doesn't install on my laptop
[09:06] <thelance> yeah it couldn't find the Vlc package
[09:06] <kedarguru> it says broken package?
[09:06] <sethk> jon_, it will give you a new prompt on a new line.  you can check that it worked by doing this:   ls -l
[09:06] <thelance> it says it cant find the package
[09:06] <jon_> well
[09:07] <jon_> hm
[09:07] <sethk> jon_, that will list all files in the directory, in long format.  the x in the beginning of the line means executable
[09:07] <jon_> it prompted me for a pw
[09:07] <jon_> when i tried to sudo ./
[09:07] <sethk> jon_, you don't need sudo to chmod that file
[09:07] <jon_> then it said error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:07] <jon_> dont i need to install it after i chmod
[09:07] <thelance> root@TheLanceBox:/home/thelance # sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:07] <thelance> Reading package lists... Done
[09:07] <thelance> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:07] <thelance> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[09:08] <thelance> thats what it told me
[09:08] <sethk> jon_, you have to install libstdc++ version 5 to use that binary
[09:08] <kedarguru> hm
[09:08] <kedarguru> u probably need to enable extra repositories or something
[09:08] <sethk> jon_, if you let the package system install it for you, it takes care of such problems.
[09:08] <jon_> crap
[09:08] <kedarguru> this is my first day with linux
[09:08] <kedarguru> ever
[09:08] <kedarguru> hahaha
[09:08] <kedarguru> sorry :-(
[09:08] <jon_> how do i open up the package system
[09:08] <sethk> jon_, synaptic
[09:08] <thelance> mine too
[09:08] <kedarguru> sweet
[09:08] <thelance> this is a first time linux user
[09:08] <borut> Hello,whats the name of app in menubar with 5 monitorshttp://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=320139963406b8c930c5a0&p=screen
[09:09] <kedarguru> same
[09:09] <sethk> jon_, sudo synaptic, actually.  when it asks you for your password, type your password
[09:09] <kedarguru> my problem is
[09:09] <thelance> i dont need a password
[09:09] <thelance> im in the the root terminal
[09:09] <jon_> right
[09:09] <kedarguru> hm
[09:09] <jon_> can  i do it through add applications?
[09:10] <jon_> i dont think i found it in synaptic
[09:10] <Madpilot> jon_, which package are you looking for?
[09:10] <jon_> i already have the package tho
[09:10] <jon_> how do i open it up?
[09:10] <thelance> root@TheLanceBox:/home/thelance # sudo apt-get update
[09:10] <thelance> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B]
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Packages
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/restricted Packages
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Sources
[09:10] <thelance> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/restricted Sources
[09:10] <thelance> Fetched 1B in 0s (1B/s)
[09:10] <jon_> it prompted me when i dl it, but i dunno how to get back to it
[09:10] <thelance> Reading package lists... Done
[09:10] <thelance> root@TheLanceBox:/home/thelance # sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[09:10] <thelance> Reading package lists... Done
[09:10] <thelance> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:10] <RunUO22748> thelance STOP GLOODING
[09:10] <thelance> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[09:10] <thelance> root@TheLanceBox:/home/thelance #
[09:11] <RunUO22748> thelance www.pastebin.org
[09:11] <kedarguru> can someone help me :-(
[09:11] <thelance> sorry
[09:11] <rixxon> !info vlc
[09:11] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[09:11] <Madpilot> thelance, next time, pastebin!
[09:11] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell thelance about paste
[09:11] <kedarguru> when I try to install the totem plugin for firefox...
[09:11] <thelance> what abut paste?
[09:11] <rixxon> !universe > thelance
[09:12] <Madpilot> jon_, what exactly are you trying to install?
[09:12] <thelance> vlc
[09:12] <kedarguru> it says unmet dependency on totem-gstreamer...
[09:12] <Madpilot> thelance, check your PMs, you should have several from ubotu
[09:12] <thelance> yeah
[09:12] <kedarguru> but I have the latest totem-gstreamer, and everything else seems to check out... but it keeps saying broken package?
[09:13] <jon_> realplayer
[09:13] <nathanial> hey folks. I have a quick question.
[09:13] <nathanial> I can't find any good 'daily planners' for ubuntu
[09:13] <holycow> ask away
[09:13] <nathanial> any ideas???
[09:14] <Madpilot> !info realplayer
[09:14] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:14] <Madpilot> jon_, enable Multiverse and install realplayer
[09:14] <ompaul> debrisss, I downloaded it - extracted it - it is a beta 1 release - that is "testers only thank you" you will see something in this channel when someone does enough work for it to work on ubuntu
[09:14] <jon_> i dunno how to enable multiverse
[09:14] <noiesmo> kedarguru, do sudo apt-get remove totem-gstreamer and then do sudo apt-get install totem-xine insead
[09:14] <holycow> nathanial, daily planner? you mean calendaring?
[09:14] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jon_ about multiverse
[09:14] <nathanial> holycow. yes.
[09:14] <jon_> i already went to that site
[09:14] <jon_> twice
[09:14] <nathanial> I found one for xfce, but I don't want to have to log out of gnome to use it.
[09:14] <Madpilot> nathanial, try clicking on your clock, that brings up a decent calendaring program, connected to Evolution
[09:15] <thelance> im confused
[09:15] <Madpilot> jon_, read that page thru, it will tell you how to enable Multiverse...
[09:15] <debrisss> ompaul:  nobody's gotten firefox beta working for ubuntu yet???? (sorry, it's just... hard to believe...)
[09:15] <holycow> nathanial, evolution is not good enough?
[09:15] <ompaul> debrisss, you can't find it - and I am not going to work on it - it did not work out of the box and encourage me to debug it - so there ends my participation
[09:15] <nathanial> holycow. it should be good enough.
[09:15] <rredd4> Madpilot  maybe someone could add something to ubo tu to warn them about flooding, which could direct them to the pastebin
[09:16] <nalpha> guys how to mount samba file sharing can like this smb://lserver/share ???
[09:16] <blish> noutolisda mir noug
[09:16] <nathanial> thanks!!
[09:16] <holycow> nathanial, sure
[09:16] <kedarguru> thanks noiesmo
[09:16] <debrisss> ok - surreal, but ok
[09:16] <debrisss> thanks ompaul
[09:16] <ompaul> !pastebin
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:16] <blish> findis+term
[09:16] <noiesmo> kedarguru, k np ;)
[09:16] <Madpilot> rredd4, there's a link to pastebin in the /topic here
[09:16] <nalpha> guys how to mount samba file sharing can like this smb://lserver/share ???
[09:16] <ompaul> rredd4, like that one there ^^
[09:16] <smee56> help
[09:16] <kedarguru> how did you figure that out :-O
[09:16] <smee56> i have lost my gui can any one help
[09:17] <ompaul> jon_, have you actally looked a  the repos link? the second part of that line
[09:17] <ompaul> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[09:17] <noiesmo> kedarguru, years of experience
[09:17] <kedarguru> is totem-xine a newer version of totem-gstreamer or something?
[09:17] <rredd4> Madpilot i know, it was just a suggestion for those that flood accidently...
[09:17] <noiesmo> kedarguru, na just kidding
[09:17] <snowman> speaking of samba, I can get it running on this box so that people can see the printer, but not home directories. I've set them browseable, uncommented the home dir line in smb.conf and made sure the user had a valid password and no joy.  suggestions?
[09:17] <smee56> anyone
[09:17] <Madpilot> rredd4, sometimes they just get muted, not kicked; I happened to use /remove this time
[09:18] <kedarguru> :-P
[09:18] <Madpilot> smee56, 'lost your gui' - what exactly do you mean?
[09:18] <ompaul> rredd4, you do the python for a bot to do that and hand it to seveas under the gpl and he can look and have it mute the user at the same time explaining how they can get their ability to talk back and it still won't work :(
[09:19] <ompaul> rredd4, because people are people :)
[09:19] <noiesmo> kedarguru, I not sure how but I know I was muching around with totem and gstreamer and in the end xine was the go
[09:19] <kiwigander> Hi all, I'm looking for help with my scanner.  I'm pretty unfamiliar with IRC so please excuse any stuff-ups or gaffes.
[09:19] <kedarguru> haha
[09:19] <kedarguru> b/c I hadn't had this problem ever before
[09:19] <kedarguru> then again this is like my second day using ubuntu and linux :-O
[09:19] <snowman> ok, odd.
[09:20] <taigeR__> seems like wpasupplicant is broken
[09:20] <noiesmo> kedarguru, np :) for most multimedia i use xine based stuff and then mplayer and the w32codecs
[09:20] <rredd4> Madpilot  when I was a newbie, someone told me to copy some info to a channel.  I did what they told me and got yelled at for flooding.  I did not even know about flooding.
[09:20] <kedarguru> haha am I the only one to notice
[09:20] <snowman> now I can see the "username" dir, and another called "homes" that is the users home dir.
[09:20] <taigeR__> anybody know where i can get a good version ?
[09:20] <kedarguru> ubuntu is wikipedia article of the day
[09:20] <rredd4> ompaul   yeah i know....
[09:20] <kedarguru> woohoo
[09:20] <taigeR__> it's missing /init.d/wpasupplicant file
[09:20] <ompaul> !scanner > kedarguru
[09:20] <taigeR__> anybody know?
[09:20] <shawnr_> !mp3
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:20] <Madpilot> kedarguru, it's been posted to several Ubuntu mailing lists, actually. It's cool, though!
[09:20] <ompaul> rredd4, at the end of the day it is a balance of 80:20 we have done the 80 the 20 will five no reward
[09:20] <noiesmo> taigeR__, I know from what i read you have to set up a lot or wpasupplicant
[09:20] <snowman> suggestions really welcomed :|
[09:21] <jon_> thanks, i must have missed that link =)
[09:21] <kedarguru> what does !scanner do?
[09:21] <ompaul> shawnr_, do  /msg ubotu keyword and dont spam the channel thanks
[09:21] <kedarguru> someone scanner'd me :-O
[09:21] <taigeR__> noiesmo, what do you suggest?
[09:21] <ompaul> kedarguru, check for a message from ubotu :-)
[09:21] <taigeR__> is there anything else other than wpasupplicant?
[09:21] <kedarguru> oh
[09:21] <kedarguru> haha
[09:21] <kedarguru> thanks ompaul my bad
[09:21] <ompaul> !enter
[09:21] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:22] <kiwigander> Scanner doesn't - at least not since I upgraded from breezy to dapper.   How do I check that?
[09:23] <dmsantam> macgeek, mail
[09:24] <macgeek> didn't work
[09:24] <noiesmo> holycow, yes that might be but for a system to be used as a desktop by the bulk of the public they want mp3 they want video etc so its a given they need universe and multiverse until the big corporations pull there heads out of there ass and see that we must go on
[09:24] <smee56> can someone please help me
[09:24] <macgeek> dmsantam: -bash: mail: command not found
[09:24] <holycow> jon_, give it time, welcome.  feel free to explore all aspects, and all oses.  even the great evil
[09:24] <shawnr_> nevermind lol i got it
[09:24] <shawnr_> ;)
[09:24] <rredd4> ompaul  what i did not understand about flooding, when I was a newbie (a long, long time ago!) was that there were people with older computers and that it would crash them.
[09:24] <kedarguru> hahaha
[09:24] <RifleEyes> i have a very newbish question
[09:24] <dmsantam> macgeek, apt-get install mutt
[09:24] <dmsantam> macgeek, then run 'mutt'
[09:24] <macgeek> ok
[09:25] <holycow> noiesmo, thats a laudable goal.  however, like most newbs you miss a couple of details ... these are just points not arguments k? :0
[09:25] <holycow> :)
[09:25] <smee56> can some one tell me how to get my GUI working?????
[09:25] <silentread> RifleEyes, we were all nubs at some point, ask your question
[09:25] <noiesmo> holycow, ;)
[09:25] <holycow> 1. linux doesn't exist for any particula reason.  it's not here to 'gain marketshare'.  it exists for as many reasons as there are users.  thus the goal really isn't to get the 'masses'
[09:25] <ompaul> smee56, try this>>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  <<
[09:25] <sethk> smee56, you'll need to ask a more specific question than that
[09:25] <dmsantam> macgeek, you could also apt-get install mailx to get the mail command im talking about. but mutt is really much better :)
[09:25] <RifleEyes> (this is my first night using linux of any kind) how do i get my resolution to 1280xthatothernumber
[09:25] <Sargun> I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
[09:25] <macgeek> dmsantam: ok thanks
[09:25] <dmsantam> macgeek, np :)
[09:25] <Bob535> yay rifle, i had the same problem
[09:26] <Bob535> !resolution
[09:26] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:26] <Sargun> having the same problem is not good..
[09:26] <Bob535> read what ubotu has to say
[09:26] <noiesmo> holycow, he ehe
[09:26] <Bob535> the first one worked for me
[09:26] <kedarguru> hurray ubotu!
[09:27] <ompaul> Sargun, that is rather offtopic
[09:27] <Sargun> lol
[09:27] <holycow> 2. and of course the legalities of and intriciacies of copyright and patents ... most people have barely enough time to vote, never mind learn about nuances of law ...
[09:27] <macgeek> dmsantam: hm, it seems to be hanging on this: "Removing unchanged obsolete conffiles ... "
[09:27] <holycow> noiesmo, a better strategy is to take the 'masses', chop up that group into smaller more defineable and understandeable groups and cater to them
[09:27] <RifleEyes> wow
[09:27] <RifleEyes> this is gonna take getting used to
[09:28] <Bob535> Yay for my skills tonight, I got my resolution correct and Azureus installed
[09:28] <noiesmo> holycow, ok ok I get it I was just saying a lot of ? asked here wouldnt be if universe and multiverse repos were enabled
[09:28] <smee56> ok i had my gui working but now it isnt. ido not know if i did somethiong wrong but..i have tried things like  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but i dont know how to set it up from there.
[09:28] <Bob535> tommorow, yum, so i can mount my data drive from my xp box
[09:28] <Tauhshi> Some more bad news . . .
[09:28] <rredd4> RifleEyes  if I can do it... so can you!!  Ubuntu is easy
[09:28] <holycow> noiesmo, *nod* no you are right :) just chattin
[09:28] <ompaul> smee56, what kind of video card have you got?
[09:28] <smee56> i dont know
[09:28] <Tauhshi> I think my CD Drive is faulty or something . . .
[09:28] <smee56> im new
[09:28] <macgeek> dmsantam: nevermind, it was just taking a long time
[09:29] <smee56> how do i tell?
[09:29] <ompaul> smee56, what were you trying to do when it disappeared?
[09:29] <noiesmo> holycow, thats kool man i'm getting drunk and i dont care lol
[09:29] <rredd4> RifleEyes  read read read!
[09:29] <holycow> noiesmo, lol! :) well welcome you drunkard!
[09:29] <holycow> *hic*
[09:29] <holycow> >_>
[09:29] <Tauhshi> Everytime I try and do somethin, it ends up screwing up . . .
[09:29] <noiesmo> holycow, I just watched a linus video on the kernel from youtube and I think richard stallman rocks
[09:29] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:29] <noiesmo> noiesmo, ompaul ok sorry dude
[09:30] <smee56> it comes up to the splash screen but then my screen turns off. I then Try ctrl+alt+F1 and it gives me the command line
[09:30] <ompaul> np
[09:30] <holycow> noiesmo, my fav thing about rms is he lives what he preaches.  you don't get idealists very often following their own advice
[09:30] <ompaul> holycow, it is a religion with him :-)
[09:30] <smee56> i did try startx but it came up with a error
[09:30] <noiesmo> holycow, true true but i think ompaul is warning us about offtopic
[09:30] <noiesmo> ompaul, hey you no offtopic
[09:30] <holycow> :)
[09:30] <smee56> would you like me to paste the error
[09:31] <ompaul> smee56, if you can into paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:31] <smee56> ok ill try
[09:31] <Hoxzer> is there any tool that can show rss feed on desktop as desklet?
[09:31] <ompaul> smee56, here will get you removed from the channel
[09:31] <ompaul> smee56, was it ever working?
[09:32] <noiesmo> holycow, what dvd you watchin
[09:32] <holycow> dennis miller hbo special :)
[09:32] <noiesmo> holycow, kool :)
[09:32] <macgeek> I got the following 3 errors when I installed the latest updates on Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19757
[09:32] <smee56> pasted as Smee56
[09:32] <Bob535> has anyone here got ntfs support working properly under ubuntu and if so what proggy do you use?
[09:32] <macgeek> is that anything important?
[09:33] <Tauhshi> 110 GB HDD, 10 for Windows, 9 for Ubuntu, 1 for Swap, and the rest as a FAT32 Share drive?
[09:33] <macgeek> oh, they stopped my installation of mutt
[09:33] <macgeek> it must be important :( how do I fix it?
[09:33] <ompaul> !ntfs > Bob535
[09:33] <Luke> is there a special edgy channel?
[09:33] <sethk> macgeek, not important
[09:33] <ompaul> Bob535, please check the message from the bot
[09:33] <macgeek> sethk: then how do I install mutt?
[09:33] <Flannel> Luke: #ubuntu+1
[09:33] <sethk> macgeek, I doubt you will worry about using TeX any time soon
[09:34] <Luke> Flannel: thanks
[09:34] <ompaul> Luke, see what flannel said and you thanked flannel for :)
[09:34] <djang0> Bob535, ntfs-3 anyway, read and write
[09:34] <Bob535> thanks ompaul
[09:34] <macgeek> sethk: oh heh :) well mutt works anyway I guess
[09:34] <djang0> Bob535, ntfs-3G
[09:35] <ompaul> Bob535, be aware that writing to it can fail and cause all sorts of boken stuff - it is not good on dapper
[09:35] <sethk> macgeek, it should
[09:35] <Bob535> icky
[09:35] <djang0> Bob535, and that is so true
[09:35] <djang0> Bob535, even if you write successfully to the ntfs partition, you can corrupt other data on there
[09:35] <djang0> Bob535, happened more than once to me
[09:35] <ompaul> smee56, use these three keys together    >>>        Ctrl Alt F7
[09:36] <RifleEyes> okay i am really not good at linux
[09:36] <macgeek> what do I do about this? "mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink"
[09:36] <djang0> Bob535, so if it's 'mission critical' use a FAT32 partition as the "middle man" if you can
[09:36] <Bob535> I need to borrow an empty hd with equal or greater size so that I can copy my ntfs data drive into fat32 so i can access it by both
[09:36] <RifleEyes> that little bot thing told me to type that command in and i did and it took me to a black command screen i dont understand.
[09:36] <Tauhshi> Do all the ShipIt CD's come with Stickeres?
[09:36] <djang0> Bob535, yeah, pity you can't convert back like from FAT32 > NTFS, huh?
[09:37] <Tsukino> anyone here know acpi? more specifically, how to turn throttling on?
[09:37] <djang0> Bob535, anyway, short answer is i wouldn't trust NTFS-3G to write
[09:37] <keta> macgeek: you can remove it, because is a symbolic link that points to nothing
[09:38] <bbrazil> Bob535: linux can read ntfs
[09:38] <macgeek> keta: I just delete that file it showed?
[09:38] <linuxboy> why are there so many dapper updates ?
[09:38] <Bob535> I would need to get rid of a huge amount of useful files in order to properly move my whole data drive over to fat32
[09:38] <RifleEyes> okay, when a Howto tells me to run a command, it means type it into the terminal thingie, right?
[09:38] <Bob535> without using a second drive anyways
[09:39] <djang0> bbrazil, he knows, he's asking about read/write
[09:39] <keta> macgeek: yes, nextime mandb will run it won't show that warn
[09:39] <macgeek> keta: okay thanks
[09:39] <Flannel> RifleEyes: yep.
[09:39] <Bob535> oh hell ya, i just remembered my parents bought a usb drive... hehehe
[09:39] <nathanial> folks. I have a quick question. . . again
[09:39] <Bob535> go ahead nathanial
[09:39] <djang0> Bob535, well format that puppy FAT32
[09:39] <RifleEyes> flannel, i did that before and it took me to a plain black command screen thing, and by then i couldnt remember the command
[09:40] <djang0> :)
[09:40] <nathanial> my current computer is a Toshiba FROM JAPAN. meaning the DVD NTSC is Japanese.
[09:40] <nathanial> I installed ubuntu, and DVD's don't work. How can I change the NTSC with ubunut?
[09:40] <Bob535> ooh good question
[09:40] <Flannel> RifleEyes: you can either do ctrl-alt-f# and then log in again, or just start a terminal window.  Accessories > command prompt (or whatever it is on dapper)
[09:40] <nathanial> Bob535, I am to please
[09:41] <nathanial> :D
[09:41] <nathanial> aim
[09:41] <Bob535> I have no idea personally
[09:41] <keta> nathanial: do you have libdvdcss intsalled?
[09:41] <Bob535> but im sure someone must know
[09:41] <thundr> RifleEyes, accessories --> Terminal
[09:41] <nathanial> yes
[09:41] <RifleEyes> thats what i used
[09:41] <sethk> nathanial, NTSC is the television spec used in north america.  so your statement makes no sense.
[09:41] <RifleEyes> but i typed in the thing the bot told me to, and it took me to the black screen
[09:41] <nathanial> hm. :)
[09:41] <dmsantam> macgeek, yeah, just delete that file. its a link to nothing
[09:41] <Flannel> RifleEyes: what command?
[09:41] <thundr> nathanial, do you mean the region code?
[09:42] <RifleEyes> hm
[09:42] <RifleEyes> !resolution
[09:42] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:42] <RifleEyes> that one
[09:42] <nathanial> lets try again. YES! the region code
[09:42] <nathanial> thanks sir
[09:42] <keta> sethk: it's for japan too, I had a japanese playstation once
[09:42] <nathanial> How can I find what my current region code is?
[09:42] <RifleEyes> i am so lost.
[09:42] <rredd4> RifleEyes  you can copy the command by highlighting it, then go to the terminal and right click and select paste, then push the return key
[09:42] <Flannel> RifleEyes: you typed in gdm, right? (are you running ubuntu, kubuntu, or xubuntu?)
[09:42] <keta> sethk: i worked on ntsc
[09:42] <thundr> nathanial, nearly all drives allow you to change it a certain amount of times (e.g. 5) before it becomes permanent
[09:42] <RifleEyes> ubuntu
[09:42] <keta> i/it
[09:43] <Flannel> RifleEyes: then instead of ?dm make it gdm
[09:43] <nathanial> thundr, I've heard
[09:43] <RifleEyes> oh
[09:43] <RifleEyes> i see
[09:43] <nathanial> how would I be able to check/change??
[09:43] <RifleEyes> well i shall try that then.
[09:44] <rredd4> RifleEyes you can still copy paste the command
[09:44] <nathanial> oh great wise ones of ubuntu. :)
[09:44] <RifleEyes> i will
[09:44] <sethk> keta, his statement still makes no sense.  he wants to "change the ntsc".  that's meaningless
[09:44] <nathanial> sethk, i don't want to change the ntsc, but the region code, rather.
[09:45] <nathanial> thanks to thundr for the clarification
[09:45] <miza> how can i boot ubuntu without acpci
[09:45] <thundr> nathanial, I don't know how to do it in linux.  I'm sure there's a way (there's a way in linux for *everything*)
[09:45] <rredd4> miza  acpi=off
[09:45] <mathieu_> miza: you could type acpi=off at the command kernel boot time
[09:46] <keta> sethk: i fear more the statement that it could be changed some times before it gets fixed. :D
[09:46] <miza> kk
[09:46] <ubuntu> il y as kel qu un de francais?
[09:46] <mathieu_> ubuntu oui
[09:47] <Flannel> !fr
[09:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:47] <ubuntu> suis perdu sous inux
[09:47] <miza> mathieu_: where do i exatly type that during the boot
[09:47] <Tauhshi> Ok, I think it's just something wrong with the CD's, I found a fresh one with an Audio CD on it, so, I'm ripping the songs, then going to burn my iso to the disc
[09:47] <macgeek> does anyone here use XAMPP?
[09:48] <mathieu_> miza: it depends how your bootloader is setup
[09:48] <Flannel> macgeek: why use XAMPP when all the components are in the repositories?
[09:48] <mathieu_> miza: i type esc at boottime and I can change my boot parameters with grub
[09:48] <macgeek> Flannel: because it's easier :P
[09:48] <RifleEyes> sigh.
[09:48] <miza> i have just grub and when i click ubuntu it continues to the distro
[09:48] <miza> mathieu_: kk
[09:49] <Bob535> rifle
[09:49] <macgeek> Flannel: and it only takes one command to start Apache, MySQL, and ProFTPD
[09:49] <Bob535> did you get it?
[09:49] <RifleEyes> yes
[09:49] <RifleEyes> no
[09:49] <mathieu_> miza: is there a key that says press key for help at boot time ?
[09:49] <Bob535> okay, whats catching you up
[09:49] <mathieu_> miza: you could try esc
[09:49] <Flannel> macgeek: er, there's init.d for that.  And, copy/paste isn't exactly difficult to install either.
[09:49] <Bob535> if you know
[09:49] <nathanial> can anyone help me found what is my region code?
[09:49] <RifleEyes> i go to the terminal thing
[09:49] <nathanial> find
[09:49] <RifleEyes> i type in the command, now with gdm instead of ?dm
[09:49] <Tauhshi> Can I install KDE on Ubuntu?
[09:49] <RifleEyes> or whatever
[09:50] <mathieu_> Tauhshi: yes
[09:50] <noiesmo> Tauhshi, yes you can
[09:50] <macgeek> Flannel: copy/paste?
[09:50] <RifleEyes> and it asks for my password, i put it in, it takes me to a black and white command lookin screen and asks me to log in
[09:50] <Tauhshi> Ok, good
[09:50] <RifleEyes> and i do. and it say something about ubuntu or something
[09:50] <Flannel> Tauhshi: yep.  If you want kubuntu, kubuntu-desktop is the package, otherwise you'll need to install kde and some other components
[09:50] <RifleEyes> and i can type in commands but i dont know any commands.
[09:50] <Tauhshi> I can still keep my Ubuntu sticker and still have KDE
[09:50] <noiesmo> Tauhshi, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <Flannel> macgeek: right, the wiki has what are essentually copy/paste install instructions
[09:51] <Bob535> Okay, did you try the first set of instructions without it working?
[09:51] <Bob535> the three line thing
[09:51] <macgeek> Flannel: oh okay, I'll take a look. And how do I use init.d?
[09:51] <Tauhshi> So, wait, that will turn it into Kubuntu though, right?
[09:51] <Bob535> it will pull up an installer, and it asks you a bunch of questions.. etc.
[09:51] <RifleEyes> !resolution
[09:51] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:51] <RifleEyes> what is X
[09:51] <rredd4> your gui
[09:51] <noiesmo> Tauhshi, at the login section go sessions then select gnome or kde
[09:51] <Flannel> macgeek: er, you actually don't need to.  When you install them from the repository, everything gets setup
[09:51] <rredd4> graphic user interface
[09:52] <Bob535> X is the stuff you can see that has graphics
[09:52] <rredd4> kinda like windoze
[09:52] <macgeek> Flannel: oh okay, thanks
[09:52] <Tauhshi> Noiesmo, I can choose either KDE or GNOME?
[09:52] <RifleEyes> so i should've followed the link instead of doing the command
[09:52] <Flannel> macgeek:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:52] <Bob535> yes
[09:52] <Bob535> :)
[09:52] <RifleEyes> =(
[09:52] <noiesmo> Tauhshi, yep
[09:52] <macgeek> Flannel: what about FTP?
[09:52] <Flannel> macgeek: you can also download the server ISO for ubuntu, which has a built-in LAMP option
[09:52] <mathieu_> Tauhshi: ydes
[09:53] <Flannel> macgeek: depends on which ftpd you want to use
[09:53] <Tauhshi> Ok, would it retain my files and everything?
[09:53] <macgeek> Flannel: what do you recommend?
[09:53] <RifleEyes> you know, windows does the same thing when i reinstall it
[09:53] <smee56> can any one tell me how to connect ubuntu onto a dialup?
[09:53] <RifleEyes> i have to get out my drivers cd or something and do it like that
[09:53] <Flannel> macgeek: no idea.
[09:53] <macgeek> hm
[09:54] <macgeek> what do you guys suggest for an ftpd?
[09:54] <bbrazil> macgeek: proftpd isn't bad
[09:54] <rredd4> RifleEyes go to the System menu, then to preferences menu, the to the screen resolution selection.. do you see the resolution that you want there?
[09:54] <RifleEyes> nope
[09:54] <rredd4> ok
[09:54] <rredd4> then
[09:55] <macgeek> bbrazil: that's what I was using before
[09:55] <Bob535> follow those first three steps in that link, part of one of the questions it asks is which resolutions you want
[09:55] <Bob535> make sure you select (hit space) over 1280x1024
[09:56] <bbrazil> macgeek|away: what was/is your problem with it?
[09:56] <Bob535> which is a little bit down the list
[09:56] <RifleEyes> okay
[09:56] <RifleEyes> wow, i am so new at this
[09:56] <Flannel> bbrazil: I think he wasn't on ubuntu before.
[09:57] <bbrazil> Flannel: unless you're trying to do something fancy that requires a recent version or specific libraries, that shouldn't make a difference
[09:57] <RifleEyes> wait
[09:57] <RifleEyes> how many different commands are on that little section
[09:57] <Hoxzer> Requesting a permission to ask something random that doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu
[09:58] <cwraig> yea go on
[09:58] <ajopaul> !pastebin > ajopaul
[09:58] <Flannel> bbrazil: Right.  He was using XAMPP before.  He should be fine installing proftpd I imagine
[09:58] <bbrazil> Hoxzer: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:58] <Hoxzer> :(
[09:59] <Bob535> threre should be three lines
[09:59] <Bob535> just copy and paste one line at a time
[09:59] <Flannel> Hoxzer: no, seriously.  It's a real channel.  Go there and talk about whatever you want.
[09:59] <Bob535> into a terminal
[09:59] <RifleEyes> ah, it helps if i have my browser open all the way
[09:59] <RifleEyes> stupid 1024x786
[09:59] <Bob535> exactly why figuring out resolution was my first priority when i moved to ubuntu earlier today
[10:00] <wasauce> how do I setup the screen command in ubuntu? currently when i type it in screen at the bash shell i get screen: command not found
[10:00] <Flannel> wasauce: apt-get install screen
[10:00] <wasauce> really? thats it? thanks
[10:00] <bbrazil> wasauce: should be there by default. sudo aptitude install screen
[10:01] <RifleEyes> hm.
[10:01] <RifleEyes> okay i pasted the second line in
[10:01] <RifleEyes> and it said no such file or directory
[10:02] <nathanial> do linux distros really need any spy/addware????
[10:03] <Bob535> rifle, you make sure yo ugot all of it?
[10:03] <Bob535> including the end '
[10:03] <RifleEyes> yes im at the thingie now
[10:03] <noiesmo> nathanial, what ?
[10:03] <RifleEyes> config thing
[10:03] <Bob535> oh good
[10:03] <Bob535> perfect, if you dont know which option to choose at some point
[10:03] <Bob535> just leave it at whatever it says by default
[10:04] <Bob535> I will brb
[10:04] <nathanial> I heard that linux OS's doesn't need programs like SpyBot. Is this true??
[10:04] <noiesmo> nathanial, yes
[10:04] <nathanial> I should NEVER have to worry aboud adware/spyware?
[10:04] <noiesmo> nathanial, no you should n;'t
[10:04] <rredd4> thats cause no one likes windoze  lol
[10:05] <fuoco> is there a repository with google earth somewhere ?
[10:05] <nathanial> thanks
[10:05] <noiesmo> nathanial, i never do
[10:05] <nathanial> :)
[10:05] <nathanial> noiesmo. thanks
[10:05] <noiesmo> nathanial, go porn surf safly with gnulinux
[10:05] <Nookie^> can anyone tell me how to import photos from digitalcamera... i dont see any usb icon on desktop... and that program which popup when camera is pluged in can't detect my camera.. what should i do to see my images on my camera??
[10:06] <nathanial> SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:06] <nathanial> I can't wait!!
[10:06] <nathanial> asian porn, here I come!!!
[10:06] <noiesmo> Nookie^, use digikam you'll need to add your cam
[10:06] <bbrazil> nathanial: eh, no. There is *currently* no known sypware for ubuntu
[10:06] <noiesmo> nathanial, go man go
[10:06] <nathanial> bbrazil, thanks man
[10:06] <RifleEyes> i dont know what to enter for any of these questions =(
[10:06] <nathanial> noiesmo, you said gnulinux
[10:06] <nathanial> i'm not familiar. . .
[10:07] <Nookie^> noiesmo: thanx will try
[10:07] <bbrazil> nathanial: but the right firefox vunerability and you'll have problems
[10:07] <rredd4> RifleEyes push enter
[10:07] <RifleEyes> i am pushing enter
[10:07] <noiesmo> nathanial, yes its gnu/linux
[10:07] <nathanial> bbrazil, what doyou mean?
[10:07] <RifleEyes> i think im supposed to be entering stuff though
[10:07] <rredd4> no
[10:07] <RifleEyes> it keeps asking me questions and names and amounts
[10:07] <noiesmo> nathanial, linux is only the kernel not hte whole system
[10:07] <nathanial> noiesmo, meaning linux OS using gnu?
[10:07] <bbrazil> nathanial: using ubuntu doesn't make you immune
[10:08] <rredd4> RifleEyes you just want to get to the resolutions screen in reconfigure
[10:08] <fuoco> when i reload on synaptic i get: http://ubuntu.compiz.net/dists/dapper/Release: Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) what does it mean ?
[10:08] <noiesmo> bbrazil, hmm hows that me thinks that spywarre and malaware only for M$
[10:08] <RifleEyes> oh okay
[10:08] <RifleEyes> so i dont have to mess with anything
[10:08] <nathanial> bbrazil, what can I do to strengthen the safety of my computer?
[10:08] <nathanial> I notice SpyBot isn't offered for linux.
[10:08] <rredd4> right
[10:08] <noiesmo> nathanial, dont use it
[10:09] <bbrazil> noiesmo: then you are mistaken. UNIX has a better security model, not an impenetrable one
[10:09] <wulax> does someone know if i can make compiz use the win-key instead of alt when moving/resizing windows?
[10:09] <rredd4> RifleEyes let us know when you get to the resolution screen
[10:09] <nathanial> bbrazil, i've heard that as well.
[10:09] <RifleEyes> its a long way through, i see
[10:09] <RifleEyes> it says
[10:09] <nathanial> but there must be some type of 'spyware' or even a mcafee virus program???
[10:09] <RifleEyes> Attempt monitor autodetection?
[10:09] <noiesmo> nathanial, clamav
[10:09] <bbrazil> nathanial: there's a few anti-virus projects for linux
[10:10] <RifleEyes> i hit space on accident so i guess that doubles as enter.
[10:10] <nathanial> noiesmo, clamav can be installed from synaptic??
[10:10] <RifleEyes> yay resolution
[10:10] <noiesmo> nathanial, yes should be
[10:10] <nathanial> bbrazil, any ones that can be installed from synaptic?
[10:10] <nathanial> thanks guys. Ill check it out.
[10:10] <rredd4> RifleEyes  now tab down to the res that you want and use the space bar
[10:10] <rredd4> to accept ti
[10:10] <rredd4> it
[10:11] <RifleEyes> hm
[10:11] <RifleEyes> i hit enter
[10:11] <rredd4> then go to the end
[10:11] <noiesmo> bbrazil, i'm mistaken how, as far as I was aware there is no real threat to linux unless i'm silly enough to be root online
[10:11] <nathanial> noiesmo, is it known by another name? It doesn't show up in synaptic search.
[10:11] <rredd4> and after you are back into the terminal  hit the up arrow
[10:11] <bbrazil> noiesmo: no threat to the system, but they can get to all of your files
[10:11] <rredd4> and start over
[10:11] <threat> hello
[10:12] <RifleEyes> done
[10:12] <bbrazil> nathanial: the mcafee style on is still in development, and it's in kernel. clamav is for scaning files and mail usually
[10:12] <threat> bbrazil, noiesmo hehe, nick highlighting :)
[10:12] <nathanial> ok
[10:12] <nathanial> bbrazil, do you know the package name for clamav? the search shows nothing in synaptic.
[10:12] <noiesmo> bbrazil, hows that please
[10:12] <bbrazil> noiesmo: hmm, might be in universe
[10:13] <bbrazil> noiesmo: well if they take over your firefox, they have all the permission you do
[10:13] <bbrazil> nathanial: ^*2
[10:13] <Nookie^> noiesmo: my camera could not be detected there eighter...BAH!
[10:13] <Bob535> rifle, did you get it working
[10:13] <noiesmo> Nookie^, what cam you got
[10:13] <WillyMF1> Hi. My ubuntu CD comes back with an error on all three of the options I choose for repartioing... is there a freeware repartioiner i can use to crate the space in windows so I can install?
[10:13] <Selig5>  http://www.clamav.net/stable.php
[10:14] <nathanial> bbrazil, this doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry.
[10:14] <Nookie^> noiesmo: i've got Kodak Eazyshare Z700
[10:14] <bbrazil> !repos
[10:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:14] <rredd4> RifleEyes use the down arrow until you get to the res you want then the space bar to select it
[10:14] <noiesmo> Nookie^, ok add it as a ptp type cam I have a kodak to but not the same model but kodak is ptp type
[10:15] <Nookie^> ohh,.,. lets try
[10:15] <Bob535> rifle, also if the down arrows dont work
[10:15] <Bob535> turn off your number key and use the number pad
[10:15] <noiesmo> Nookie^, usb ptp tpe please
[10:15] <Bob535> my arrow keys just take screenshots :(
[10:16] <Nookie^> noiesmo: hehehe i will =)
[10:16] <bbrazil> nathanial: you have to enable the universe repositries
[10:16] <noiesmo> bbrazil, you never answered my ?
[10:16] <noiesmo> bbrazil, how will firefox in linux be comprimised
[10:17] <bbrazil> noiesmo: vunerabilities
[10:17] <bbrazil> noiesmo: there usually a few a week
[10:17] <bbrazil> noiesmo: *month
[10:17] <wulax> does someone know if i can make compiz use the win-key instead of alt when moving/resizing windows?
[10:18] <thinh> anyone knows how to access openoffice clipart, i used automatix to downloade the clipart?
[10:18] <noiesmo> wulax, you can set it thru gconf-editor
[10:18] <WillyMF1> If I repartiton in windows and leave some space free, will that help me with the ubuntu installation? The built in repartitioner doesn't seem to be working for me.
[10:18] <wulax> noiesmo: ok, i'll search for it there. thanks
[10:18] <nathanial> bbrazil, is this the universe APT repository?
[10:18] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: hmm, how many partitions do you currently have?
[10:19] <bbrazil> nathanial: yes
[10:19] <WillyMF1> bbrazil: I only have the primary windows
[10:19] <nathanial> bbrazil, afterwords, what are the following steps. BTW, this will not effect my current system?
[10:19] <rredd4> Bob535  looks like RifleEyes left....
[10:19] <Nookie^> noiesmo: did not work this time eighter... why couldn't they just make a simple Usb icon on the desktop... that would make life so muuuuuch easier
[10:20] <bbrazil> nathanial: install clamav via synaptic. shouldn;t affect anything
[10:20] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: yeah, that should work then
[10:20] <noiesmo> Nookie^, because kodak didnt make there cams usb they mad them ptp
[10:20] <nathanial> bbrazil, this universe, etc seems similar to automatix, am I wrong?
[10:20] <bbrazil> nathanial: no, universe is "official"
[10:20] <WillyMF1> bbrazil: do you have a recommendation for a repartioner since the built in one isn't working?
[10:20] <bbrazil> nathanial: but not supported by canonical
[10:21] <nathanial> bbrazil: official=safer
[10:21] <noiesmo> s/mad/maed
[10:21] <nathanial> ?
[10:21] <noiesmo> s/mad/made
[10:21] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: afraid not, I can only suggest the partition that comes with 2k3server
[10:21] <bbrazil> noiesmo: you're pretty safe with universe
[10:21] <noiesmo> nathanial, enable both universe and multiverse automatrix suxs from whats discuessed here
[10:22] <noiesmo> bbrazil, ok
[10:22] <rredd4> WillyMF1  partition magic.... in windows...
[10:23] <Bob535> grrrr
[10:23] <Bob535> stupid thing
[10:23] <Bob535> hello rifle
[10:23] <RifleEyes> sigh
[10:23] <Bob535> no luck/
[10:23] <RifleEyes> i am not running off of the live cd
[10:23] <rredd4> RifleEyes  wb
[10:23] <RifleEyes> thanks
[10:24] <RifleEyes> i went through the whole config thing again
[10:24] <rredd4> RifleEyes  and
[10:24] <nathanial> bbrazil; the terminal output says that universe is completely UNSUPPORTED by ubuntu teams. . .
[10:24] <RifleEyes> and i got to the part that said automatically detect monitor, and last time i hit space on accident, so this time i hit enter
[10:24] <nathanial> bbrazil, is this riskY/
[10:24] <RifleEyes> and it went to that black commandish screen
[10:24] <RifleEyes> and some problems
[10:24] <RifleEyes> something about GUD or something not being configured right
[10:24] <RifleEyes> and to restart once its configured right
[10:24] <bbrazil> nathanial: no, universe is safe. There's a lot of people behind it
[10:25] <RifleEyes> so i restarted and the same thing happened
[10:25] <yacek19> hello
[10:25] <noiesmo> nathanial, dude its ok the universe and multiverse repos have all the non free stuff like mp3 supoort and video its all good
[10:25] <Bob535> I am trying to copy files into the etc directory from a directory called etc. but it keeps saying its omitting the folders i am trying to copy
[10:25] <yacek19> anyone here tried splashy??
[10:25] <bbrazil> noiesmo: only multiverse has non-free stuff
[10:25] <rredd4> RifleEyes  can you paste the errror in pastebin  so someone can help you
[10:25] <noiesmo> bbrazil, ok sorry ;)
[10:25] <nathanial> sweet.
[10:26] <RifleEyes> i have no idea how to do that
[10:26] <bbrazil> nathanial: multiverse is actually a bit risky, but if you need multimedia you'll have to use it
[10:26] <Toma-> I need some help with getting my 7 button mouse working. Ive got Buttons "7" and ZAxisMapping "6 7" in my xorg.conf and it even comes up in xev, but cant map them in game.
[10:26] <nathanial> bbrazil, because I used automatix, i have all my multimedia covered.
[10:26] <nathanial> I suppose I'm just looking for antivirus software
[10:26] <RifleEyes> i think i am done with ubuntu for a long while
[10:27] <holycow> !automatix
[10:27] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:27] <Bob535> Sad to hear that rifle
[10:27] <bbrazil> nathanial: eek. automatix is a lot lot riskier than universe
[10:27] <holycow> nathanial, please read that
[10:27] <RifleEyes> i guess
[10:27] <Madpilot> nathanial, you don't need antivirus software; there really aren't any Linux viruses
[10:27] <holycow> nathanial, you should never run automatix
[10:27] <RifleEyes> its already erased my hd
[10:27] <holycow> and there is NO antivirus software for linux, this isn't windows
[10:27] <nathanial> ok.
[10:27] <noiesmo> nathanial, see I told you automatrix was bad
[10:27] <bbrazil> holycow: eh, there is antivirus software fo linux
[10:27] <holycow> no one has ever seen one in the wild
[10:27] <nathanial> haha
[10:27] <LazyBee> anyone know how to set monitor refresh rate from xorg.conf
[10:27] <ke> Haha
[10:27] <nathanial> now that I've used it, is it going to consistently update?
[10:28] <holycow> bbrazil, no there arent, there are antivirii software that check for WINDOWS virus
[10:28] <nathanial> I can discontinue further updates, yes?
[10:28] <holycow> >_>
[10:28] <noiesmo> bbrazil, its to stop you passing virus to M$ not linux getting one
[10:28] <bbrazil> there are linux viruses, they just tend not to get very far
[10:28] <noiesmo> bbrazil, don't go there man
[10:28] <rredd4> RifleEyes  you know anyone locally that uses ubuntu?
[10:28] <RifleEyes> nope
[10:29] <RifleEyes> small town, im sure pretty much everyone uses windows or mac
[10:29] <Toma-> I need some help with getting my 7 button mouse working. Ive got Buttons "7" and ZAxisMapping "6 7" in my xorg.conf and it even comes up in xev, but cant map them in game. (Ps. its plugged in via PS/2, so evdev wont work)
[10:29] <RifleEyes> i doubt there are many mac people at all
[10:29] <nathanial> how do I save a list in a terminal window?
[10:29] <nathanial> ctrl. . something?
[10:29] <Bob535> Is there any way to give this stupid file browser root access so I can copy stuff into my actual file system?
[10:30] <holycow> sudo nautilus
[10:30] <WillyMF1> bbrazil: did you mention something like NT partitioner? cause I'm getting partition magic so I can install ubuntu but its going to take a while.
[10:30] <Bob535> tx
[10:30] <Dravas> NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[10:30] <Dravas>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[10:30] <Dravas>   < Where is the xpti.dat?
[10:30] <rredd4> Bob535  can you help RifleEyes?
[10:30] <noiesmo> not sudo use gksu or gksudo
[10:30] <nathanial> bbrazil, saving in a terminal is what key combination??
[10:30] <holycow> WillyMF1, ubuntu has a repartitioner ... but maybe you aren't comfy enough with it
[10:30] <holycow> WillyMF1, of course, whatever you use, make sure to backup
[10:30] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: I was mentioning the disk management tool that comes with 2k3, as I know that does resizing
[10:31] <yacek19> I have problem with the newest splashutils...
[10:31] <WillyMF1> holycow... I've tired 3/4 options... all bure reformat all and its not working out
[10:31] <holycow> ubuntu live cd has gparted
[10:31] <bbrazil> nathanial: which editor?
[10:31] <Madpilot> Bob535, just be damn careful with 'sudo nautilus', you can do all sorts of damage very quickly...
[10:31] <holycow> kanotix has qtparted
[10:31] <yacek19> during boot I can see: rm: cannot remove '/lib/splash/cache/survey': Read-only filesystem
[10:31] <nathanial> bbrazil, it just says terminal
[10:31] <holycow> all live cd's have parted which you can use from command line
[10:31] <holycow> etc.
[10:31] <nathanial> default?
[10:31] <WillyMF1> er all but
[10:31] <noiesmo> Madpilot, should it not be gksudo
[10:31] <holycow> WillyMF1, *nod* just throwin it out there
[10:31] <Madpilot> noiesmo, yes, it should, I'm being lazy :)
[10:31] <bbrazil> nathanial: I don't know that the default editor is
[10:32] <WillyMF1> holy: I have some stuff I cant just get rid of
[10:32] <noiesmo> NEVER use sudo to start graphical programs. You should always use gksudo or kdesu to run such programs, otherwise new login attempts may fail.
[10:32] <Dravas> Where is the xpti.dat for Mozilla Firefox?
[10:32] <Dravas> I need to install Flashplayer
[10:32] <FurryNemesis> hi all - is there an ubuntu general chat channel besides #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:32] <nathanial> bbrazil, it seems not to be in an 'editor', but rather the same terminal window I cd with
[10:32] <bbrazil> nathanial: then there's no need to save
[10:32] <rredd4> RifleEyes  do you have any idea what the error was?
[10:32] <nathanial> ok thanks
[10:32] <noiesmo> Madpilot, please dont be lazy when it comes to graphic sudo etc
[10:33] <RifleEyes> i should've taken a picture, hah
[10:33] <noiesmo> Madpilot, :)
[10:33] <Madpilot> noiesmo, I know, I shouldn't be
[10:33] <RifleEyes> something about GUD or GDM or G something not being configured right
[10:33] <RifleEyes> or something.
[10:33] <Madpilot> FurryNemesis, -offtopic is it, pretty much
[10:33] <Dravas> Where is the xpti.dat for Mozilla Firefox? I need to delete it to install Flash Player/
[10:34] <noiesmo> Madpilot, ;)
[10:34] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Dravas about flash
[10:34] <rredd4> RifleEyes  go back into terminal and do the reconfigure again
[10:34] <RifleEyes> im on the live cd though?
[10:34] <YoussefAssad> what's a good web based mp3 player?
[10:34] <rredd4> ohh
[10:34] <RifleEyes> yes, i couldnt get back to the login screen
[10:34] <RifleEyes> cause of that error
[10:35] <rredd4> yuck
[10:35] <RifleEyes> yeah
[10:35] <topyli> YoussefAssad: there is none. maybe you mean you want something to listen to online music on your machine?
[10:35] <RifleEyes> thank you all for helping
[10:35] <noiesmo> YoussefAssad, for mp3 I use xmms or amarok
[10:35] <RifleEyes> if i try ubuntu again, i know where to go for help
[10:36] <rredd4> RifleEyes read wiki for ubuntu before installation
[10:36] <topyli> YoussefAssad: what exactly do you want to do?
[10:37] <RifleEyes> nah, im gonna give it a rest until i have another computer or something
[10:37] <YoussefAssad> topyli: no, actually I want a web based playlist system, whereby I access the playlist through the browser, i.e. Machine A is serving the web based system and is also doing the playing, Machine B is simply using the web based system to manage the playlist
[10:37] <RifleEyes> g'night all
[10:37] <rredd4> night
[10:37] <topyli> YoussefAssad: ahh
[10:37] <YoussefAssad> yep
[10:37] <topyli> you want to stream
[10:37] <yacek19> I have problem with the newest splashutils, during boot I can see: rm: cannot remove '/lib/splash/cache/survey': Read-only filesystem
[10:37] <YoussefAssad> Erm, no.
[10:37] <YoussefAssad> :)
[10:37] <topyli> :)
[10:38] <YoussefAssad> There's no streaming going on. A is doing the playing, B is just using the web based system to control what's being played. Little like a jukebox
[10:38] <RunUO22748> Whats the easied way to get create an back-up server for automatic-backup of 5 windows boxes??
[10:38] <noiesmo> YoussefAssad, I use netjuke and xmms can handle playlists
[10:38] <YoussefAssad> noiesmo: Hmm. I'll look at that. Thanks friend!
[10:38] <noiesmo> YoussefAssad, np :)
[10:39] <topyli> YoussefAssad: that sounds like a job for MPD and some web interface for it: http://www.musicpd.org/
[10:39] <YoussefAssad> topyli: and I'll look at that too. Thanks!
[10:39] <Dravas> Madpilot how does that help me
[10:39] <Madpilot> Dravas, how does what help you/.
[10:40] <Madpilot> ?
[10:40] <Dravas> I just need to delete xpti.dat from the components directory
[10:40] <Dravas> Thats what the installer says
[10:40] <Dravas> Remove the xpti.dat file to install Flash Player
[10:40] <Madpilot> Dravas, I've never heard of xpti.dat - follow the URL I gave you, it's got the easiest way of getting Flash running...
[10:41] <Dravas> ok
[10:41] <RunUO22748> Whats the easied way to get create an back-up server for automatic-backup of 5 windows boxes??
[10:41] <WillyMF1> holycow: can I use the partition resizing 2k3 progie that you mentioned? I'm using XP.
[10:41] <workhurtsme> hey everyone
[10:42] <bbrazil> WillyMF1: no, you can only use that if you're on 2k3
[10:42] <WillyMF1> ok
[10:43] <yacek19> I have problem with the newest splashutils, during boot I can see: rm: cannot remove '/lib/splash/cache/survey': Read-only filesystem
[10:43] <workhurtsme> i was wondering if there were any good music creation software for Ubuntu? like garage-band for the mac...?
[10:43] <thundr> workhurtsme, Yes, there is.
[10:44] <thundr> workhurtsme, I don't know if I've used all of it, and I don't know if it's as polished as garage-band, but it does exist.
[10:44] <workhurtsme> thats good with me
[10:44] <workhurtsme> i ditched an old windows machine
[10:44] <workhurtsme> and today is day one with linux
[10:44] <workhurtsme> i am using xubuntu
[10:44] <workhurtsme> so now, i have to find some music making software for this baby
[10:45] <frogzoo> !enter
[10:45] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:45] <frogzoo> workhurtsme: amarok - get 1.4.1 if you can
[10:45] <frogzoo> !amarok
[10:45] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.1 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[10:46] <stefg> workhurtsme: welcome to the club :-). But please don't use enter as punctuation... this wastes Line space :-)
[10:46] <workhurtsme> sorry bout that.
[10:46] <thundr> workhurtsme, you can try looking in the applications --> add/remove... menu
[10:46] <gatekeeper>  !seveas
[10:46] <RunUO22748> Can some one help me create a backup server?
[10:47] <stefg> workhurtsme: are you looking for a music player, or more something like a virtual studio environment?
[10:47] <gatekeeper> !seveas
[10:47] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:47] <frogzoo> RunUO22748: apt-cache search backup
[10:47] <RunUO22748> Frogzoo iam on windows box ..
[10:48] <frogzoo> sheesh...
[10:48] <RunUO22748> but i want to turn my LAMP server into a backup server.. :P
[10:48] <workhurtsme> virtual studio environment. i was using fl studio on windows if you are familiar
[10:48] <RunUO22748> laptop doesnt wanne do linux well :(
[10:49] <FuriousRage> anybody know a program for windows that can read/write ext3 partitions and mount it as a seperate folder or drive? i got thie Explore2fs, but its a seperate program to do it
[10:50] <workhurtsme> does anyone know of a virtual studio environment for music creation on ubuntu?
[10:50] <stefg> workhurtsme: i'll drop some names, so you can google for that:  audacity, muse, ardour, rosegarden
[10:50] <workhurtsme> oh okay
[10:51] <workhurtsme> thank you very much for the leads. i will check them out. :)
[10:51] <thundr> workhurtsme, there's also quite a list of sound/video applications in the applications menu under add/remove
[10:51] <stefg> workhurtsme: what hardware do you run?
[10:52] <workhurtsme> well, nothing special...just 3500 64 amd, regular sound card.
[10:52] <frogzoo> FuriousRage: what u need: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[10:52] <workhurtsme> 512 ram....i just like to record simple songs and stuff with my guitar and do vocals
[10:52] <stefg> Ok, so tahts something capable for multitrack digital audio
[10:53] <thundr> stefg, can't audacity do that in a basic form?
is there anything opensource or free that is available...? (probably not)
[10:53] <thundr> workhurtsme, most everything in ubuntu is free/opensource
[10:53] <pecisk> stefg: Ardour, MUsE, Jokosher (still coming)
[10:54] <stefg> yep, audacity is the simple solution, ardour, the professional one.  and workhurtsme, ALL of them are free
[10:54] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: oki thanks, i hope it does what i wish, testing atm ;>
[10:54] <pecisk> Ardour is most matured, but requires a litle tweaking of system because of JACK
[10:54] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: altho "enable force write ext3" sounds scary ;>
[10:54] <noiesmo> any netjuke users here
[10:55] <stefg> ACK's Jokosher... which was the talk of the night at yesterdays user meeting here.. but it's not ready yet
[10:55] <thundr> pecisk, what's the advantage of JACK?  I've seen a lot about it but all it does on my system is bog it down.
[10:55] <Generic> how do i check for unmounted partitions?
[10:56] <pecisk> thundr: advantage is true lack of latency
[10:56] <pecisk> thundr: you can handle multiple recordings at once
[10:56] <workhurtsme> awesome. well thank you very much. i am going to do some research
[10:56] <pecisk> thundr: important for multichannel cards
[10:56] <janga> Generic: sudu fdisk -l
[10:56] <thundr> pecisk, oh, latency is all I get when I use it.  I guess my system isn't good enough/configured right for it.
[10:56] <janga> sudo
[10:56] <pecisk> thundr: yep, it requires a lot of tweakage, and good sound card
[10:57] <pecisk> but when it is so, it works and it is worth that hassle
[10:57] <frogzoo> Generic: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hd# will show all partitions - mounted or not
[10:57] <thundr> pecisk, so your standard run-of-the-mill audigy isn't good enough?
[10:58] <pecisk> thundr: if you get xruns (and therefore latency), lot of things could be wrong, Audigy should be fine, I think
[10:58] <pecisk> important is hard disk speed
[10:58] <pecisk> is there memory disk, etc.
[10:59] <stefg> so a soft raid0 wouldn't hurt
[10:59] <FuriousRage> frogzoo: heh, thanks, it worked so far, but funny it mounts the ext3 as dvd/cd ;>
[10:59] <pecisk> it is a little bit of nuclear science, but it is worth that
[10:59] <Generic> heh
[10:59] <thundr> pecisk, and ram?  I've only got 256 on a p4 2.24 ghz.   Sounds complex.
[10:59] <Generic> I'm backing up my home folder from my 32-bit install
[10:59] <pecisk> thundr: get 512 and then it is worth a try, however 256 MB could cut a mustard too
[10:59] <pecisk> thundr: IDE hard disks?
[10:59] <Generic> I mounted the wrong partition by accident, so I ended up doing a backup onto itself, so now the disk is full
[11:00] <Generic> and it still shows 100% usage even though i deleted the backup
[11:00] <pecisk> thundr: I think you should ask ubuntu-studio guys about such questions
[11:00] <Generic> well, the failed backup :p
[11:00] <thundr> pecisk, yes, IDE.  And I've (unfortunately) got Rambus so price is an issue w/upgrading too.
[11:01] <pecisk> thundr: I run JACK/Ardour combo on Gentoo without big problems. However, I have Athlon XP 2200+, 512 MB, 120 SATA and EWS88MT eight channel sound card
[11:01] <pecisk> thundr: I see
[11:01] <pecisk> thundr: but
[11:01] <pecisk> thundr: as I said, it is only necessary if you want to record something on multiple channels
[11:02] <pecisk> for simple layered recording you should try muSe or how it was called now :)
[11:02] <pecisk> it is KDE thingy but it works, as far as I heard
[11:03] <pecisk> and for simple recording you can try Jokosher, however, it is not usable under Dapper
[11:03] <sioux> hey people what's this story... I get this error W: GPG error: http://www.beerorkid.com dapper Release:
[11:03] <YoussefAssad> heh
[11:03] <sioux> seems that the pubblic key is not available
[11:03] <pecisk> noiesmo: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[11:03] <sioux> NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E
[11:03] <thundr> pecisk, thanks.  I'll check it out when I have some time & money.  It sounds interesting.
[11:03] <lhds> hello please i need assistance : to install a hardware, it is asked to go to  cd /usr/src/linux # make menuconfig in my hdd i have linux-headers-2.6.15-26  installed ... but when i make menuconfig i get a bunch of errors  warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit what to do
[11:04] <pecisk> thundr: good luck :)
[11:04] <Tsukino> anyone here know acpi? more specifically, how to turn throttling on?
[11:04] <mc_________> is there something like digiKam for gnome?
[11:04] <sioux> people what's happening with pubkey in beerokid
[11:04] <stefg> lhds: so are you trying to build a new kernel?
[11:04] <pecisk> lhds: install libncurses5-dev, I think
[11:05] <lhds> strefg i need to install a video tv saa7133 ....
[11:05] <topyli> mc_________: f-spot
[11:05] <pecisk> lhds: make menuconfig uses ncurses to display dialogs and all that stuff
[11:05] <noiesmo> pecisk, no I lost it replaced it now a web apps broken because I didnt reset it to original and the app's encrypt password in config so now I have to reinstall app
[11:05] <lhds> i went through this before i format it worked but not now !
[11:05] <topyli> mc_________: i guess it's somewhat similar (never used digikam)
[11:05] <mc_________> topyli, is it good?
[11:05] <Dravas> How to install plugins for Banshee
[11:05] <topyli> mc_________: it's way good :)
[11:05] <mc_________> topyli, thank you,ill try it out
[11:06] <topyli> mc_________: hope you like it, cheers
[11:06] <pecisk> noiesmo: in configure file I mentioned, it is debian system user for Mysql with root permisions, you can use it to reset any password inside database, just use proper client
[11:06] <sioux> how can i import key from a repo
[11:06] <lhds> pecisk thanx i am installing this and hoping itll work
[11:06] <stefg> lhds: this shouldn't require a complete kernel rebuild... what kind of instructions are you following ATM?
[11:07] <lhds> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[11:07] <lhds> i am shhure that this folder linux headers is missing directories
[11:07] <lhds> i had them before i format
[11:08] <pecisk> lhds: what it is? special video card? or webcam?
[11:08] <sioux> :-)
[11:08] <noiesmo> pecisk, I got netjuke installed it puts root password somewhere and no since I changed it it cant access the mysql database I can access the mysql database
[11:08] <lhds> tv card
[11:08] <pecisk> noiesmo: tried /etc/netjuke?
[11:08] <sioux> How can explain me how I can import pubkey from http://www.beerorkid.com
[11:09] <sioux> sorry who
[11:09] <stefg> lhds: so for a start have you done sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[11:09] <Dimitrije> How to recover xorg.conf, i installed nvidia drivers and run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and my X failed now, cant run it.
[11:09] <Madpilot> sioux, is that for automatix?
[11:10] <sioux> mad no is for compiz
[11:10] <pecisk> lhds: I think it should work out of box, however I suggest to read this UbuntuForums thread, there is lot of information about this card under Ubuntu
[11:10] <pecisk> lhds: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195686
[11:11] <lhds> pecisk i had it working under ubuntu
[11:11] <pecisk> lhds: ohhh I see
[11:11] <sioux> when I do apt-get update I get an pubkey missing error from http://www.beerorkid.com How can I solve this problem
[11:11] <stefg> lhds: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44191
[11:12] <pecisk> sioux: it is very possible that it doesn't have public key
[11:12] <lhds> but its that the linux headers are missing ]
[11:12] <pecisk> sioux: not every repository has
[11:12] <Dravas> Where are the Plugins directory for Banshee
[11:12] <Dravas> I wanna install iTunes Music Store support
[11:12] <sioux> ok but this means that I can use this repo or not
[11:13] <stefg> lhds: so what do you get when giving sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[11:13] <jvaughn> is there an official guide to getting xgl+compiz to work on wiki.ubuntu.com or anywhere?
[11:13] <Dimitrije> Help me.
[11:13] <stefg> !xgl
[11:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:14] <Dimitrije> !nvidia
[11:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:14] <acojlo> will synaptics use just updates from official repos for packages from there or it updates for the packages will be provided from universe, multiverse?
[11:14] <jvaughn> ah great thanks
[11:14] <Madpilot> acojlo, if you've got Universe & Multiverse enabled, Synaptic will get updates from there as they're available
[11:15] <topyli> !repos
[11:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:15] <topyli> acojlo: ^
[11:16] <Ayabara> I have an inspiron 6000 with an ati radeon card. should tv-out work like a dream in ubuntu for me?
[11:17] <jvaughn> hrm... would anyone know why in /var/log/Xorg.0.log it says "direct rendering: Enabled" and it shows that it loaded the dri module fine but when i run glxinfo it says direct rendering: No.   I have Mode 0666 set for DRI in my xorg.conf.  Any other ideas?
[11:17] <Ayabara> think I read something once about this not working, but that is a while ago
[11:18] <sioux> sorry people... If I install software from http://www.beerorkid.com synaptic warring me that install software from not signed repo malicius code could damange my system, now beerokid is a safe repo?
[11:18] <lhds> pecisk  i had this message when make No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop.
[11:19] <sioux> http://www.beerorkid.com is shown as repo for xgl and compiz
[11:19] <smacky_wolf> !tvtuner
[11:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about tvtuner - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:19] <sioux> Is it safe?
[11:19] <lhds> nah its working fine thanx man
[11:20] <jvaughn> !i915
[11:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about i915 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:20] <jvaughn> !dri
[11:20] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[11:20] <Dodzey> sioux: i use that repo it is safe
[11:20] <lhds> anyone has ati radeon xpress 200?
[11:20] <sioux> dodzey but you too get pubkey errors
[11:20] <Dodzey> sioux: you can get the key for the repo, i forgot the url though, check compiz.net
[11:21] <sioux> dod ok i go to check
[11:21] <mc_________> topyli, f-spot is great,thank you!
[11:22] <topyli> mc_________: good to hear it works for you. cheers
[11:22] <debrisss> hi everyone
[11:22] <debrisss> first day with ubuntu, LOVE it....
[11:22] <debrisss> but
[11:22] <debrisss> i hate azureus
[11:22] <BobSongs> debrisss: Yeah? Why?
[11:22] <debrisss> the notification windoze won't go away....
[11:22] <Dodzey> sioux : here, try this.... get http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[11:23] <debrisss> you know, the popup notification thingies? they just don't leave
[11:23] <mc_________> !azureus
[11:23] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:23] <BobSongs> debrisss: Run Azureus as root and install any updates it requires.
[11:23] <mc_________> debrisss, Opera has a great bittorrent client integrated
[11:23] <debrisss> i installed it from synaptic - isn't that good enough?
[11:23] <debrisss> sudo azureus??
[11:24] <Dravas> How do I install plugins for Banshee and what is this svn co svn://abock.org/trunk/banshee-itunes-plugin
[11:24] <BobSongs> debrisss: You've got it.
[11:24] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hey, did you get everything sorted?
[11:24] <debrisss> ok - i'll give it a try BobSongs
[11:24] <debrisss> brb
[11:24] <mc_________> !banshee
[11:24] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:25] <topyli> mc_________: inspired to try all of mono goodness? :)
[11:25] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Hey dude! Don't you ever sleep? lol
[11:25] <lhds>  when  #make modules modules_install it gives : No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.  Stop. why?
[11:25] <Dodzey> BobSongs: haha, yeah, its 10:25 here, I aint been up long...
[11:25] <ryan_naruto> did anyone had succes running nero 7 using wine
[11:25] <mc_________> topyli, well f-spot is great but i still dislike mono itself ;)
[11:25] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Good to hear from you again. The re-install went well. I keep my /home folder apart so just about everything is the same when I log in the first time. And? Sound works perfectly now. Go figure.
[11:26] <mc_________> topyli, or i dislike .NET
[11:26] <Gonzo> any suggestions for a DVD burning program?
[11:26] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Ahh. I'm in Canada. Montreal. So it's ... 5:26 AM here.
[11:26] <topyli> mc_________: resistance is futile :)
[11:26] <BobSongs> I'm up a bit early.
[11:26] <Dimitrije> Gonzo, NEROLinux.
[11:26] <Gonzo> righto
[11:26] <Gonzo> thx
[11:26] <noiesmo> pecisk, there we go netjukes happen again but it yes encryption on mysql password so had to reinstall but its all goog 2531 Tracks  	355 Artists  	163:30:35
[11:26] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ahh...yeah...I'm in the UK
[11:27] <debrisss> BobSongs: this is weird - now i'm getting the popup notification window, but the main azureus window isn't loading at all as root....
[11:27] <noiesmo> y/yes/uses
[11:27] <ryan_naruto> i would like to run nero 7 in my linux machine so i could just drag and avi and it will make it to a vcd
[11:27] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Yeah; I figured... either that, or Spain.
[11:27] <topyli> mc_________: think about it: much of the neatest new gnome stuff is mono: tomboy, banshee, beagle, f-spot, muine...
[11:27] <ryan_naruto> k3d is a nice burning application
[11:27] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It's your accent that gave it away.
[11:27] <nekostar> OMG
[11:27] <BobSongs> ;)
[11:27] <nekostar> DAPPER != AUTO XCHAT
[11:27] <nekostar> ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG
[11:27] <nekostar> ~_~
[11:27] <topyli> mc_________: being related to microsoft doesn't necessarily kill a piece of free software :)
[11:27] <nekostar> at least its got irssi
[11:27] <nekostar> sigh
[11:27] <Madpilot> nekostar, quit it
[11:27] <nekostar> sup
[11:28] <mc_________> topyli, i have no problem with programs written in mono,i just do not want to code mono
[11:28] <Dodzey> Dodzey: heh... :-)...
[11:28] <Dodzey> oops
[11:28] <topyli> mc_________: ahhh
[11:28] <nekostar> !tell Madpilot about enter
[11:28] <BobSongs> debrisss: That's odd.
[11:28] <Madpilot> nekostar, and yes, XChat isn't in Dapper by default, which sucketh mightily...
[11:28] <Dodzey> BobSongs: i can't even copy and paste a name correctly...jesus....brb
[11:28] <afflux> tschss...
[11:28] <nekostar> Madpilot:
[11:28] <nekostar> that deserves mad spambot attacks
[11:28] <nekostar> ~_~
[11:28] <BobSongs> debrisss: Stop Azureus and try 'gksudo azureus' instead.
[11:28] <mc_________> topyli, well but maybe i should try it out before saying it sucks ^^
[11:29] <debrisss> ok - 2 seks
[11:29] <nekostar> that and the totem repository farkups
[11:29] <ryan_naruto> is there a workaround in wine so i could install nero 7 in my linux
[11:29] <BobSongs> :)
[11:29] <sioux> dodzey thank you in compiz.net I found the solution :-)
[11:29] <nekostar> ok going off to build xchat ~_______________~
[11:30] <debrisss> BobSongs: same thing AGAIn - considering using Opera's client or another client (if i could only find a decent one...)
[11:30] <mc_________> ryan_naruto, try the newes wine version
[11:30] <ryan_naruto> can k3d make vcd movies????? im noob
[11:30] <topyli> mc_________: dunno, i've never tried it personally :)
[11:30] <mc_________> ryan_naruto, it can
[11:30] <Dodzey> sioux: no probs....compiz and Xgl can b e a pain to set up, hopefully everything will go smoothly
[11:30] <debrisss> oh poop - i've quit azureus but the warning window stays OPEN :(
[11:30] <BobSongs> debrisss: I'm trying it here to see if it works. :-/ It did in the PAST. Why it's acting up now is unknown.
[11:30] <stefg> ryan_naruto: why would you want that. you can have native k3b, and the recoding functions of nero7 won't work anyway
[11:31] <debrisss> thanks BobSongs - i appreciate the help
[11:31] <tanlaan> how do you change your computers name? as in im using mutt and my email is tanlaan@tanlaan *tanlaan being both my username and computer name*
[11:32] <BobSongs> debrisss: I'm in the middle of a huge software re-install. Sorry if things are slow. I just re-installed and I'm installing ... ohh, hundreds of packages.
[11:32] <debrisss> BobSongs: hehe - take your time ;)
[11:32] <stefg> tanlaan: edit /etc/hostname and edit /etc/hosts to reflect that change. reboot afterwards
[11:32] <Dodzey> BobSongs: make sure you stick ardour in the list while your at it ;-)
[11:32] <tuanies> hi2u
[11:32] <tanlaan> stefg: thanks
[11:32] <debrisss> BobSongs: the only thing i'm in a HURRY about is to get this warning box off my desktop - it's there even tho i closed azureus
[11:33] <Dodzey> debriss: tried xkill and clicking on it?
[11:33] <Dodzey> debrisss: tried xkill and clicking on it?
[11:33] <BobSongs> Dodzey: That's next. Odd how Add/Remove programs shows Ardour but won't allow it to be installed. I'll do it through Synaptic.
[11:33] <debrisss> Dodzey: just tried that - it won't die
[11:34] <Dodzey> debrisss: check the system monitor, see if theres any stray processes
[11:34] <stefg> debrisss: Do a screen-lock (shift-ctrl-l) and unlock by entering you password. Should be gone then
[11:35] <ryan_naruto> is wine 0.9.18 wineHQ the newest version of wine or are there other wine binary out there???????
[11:35] <debrisss> stefg: screen-lock isn't working
[11:36] <mjr> ryan_naruto, well, winehq.com front page tells us that it is indeed the latest release
[11:36] <BobSongs> debrisss: or you could just log out.
[11:36] <debrisss> Dodzey: i'm looking now - nothing i can see in the process list - unless it's notification-daemon?
[11:36] <stefg> debrisss: sorry it's alt-ctrl-l
[11:36] <Dodzey> debrisss: thats the notification area for the panel
[11:37] <debrisss> stefg: that worked, but it didn't get rid of the popup ;)
[11:37] <Dodzey> debrisss: log out and back in?
[11:37] <debrisss> Dodzey: gonna do that now - brb
[11:37] <BobSongs> debrisss: If that don't work, then shut the X-Windowing system.  I ended up with using uTorrent with wine :-)
[11:38] <KenSentMe> When i do a dist-upgrade the totem package is held back, how can i find out why?
[11:39] <admin__> is there some script or program that will auto create an /etc/fstab file ?
[11:39] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Have you ever messed with Rosegarden or Lilypond?
[11:39] <debrisss> there - now that pesky window is gone :)
[11:40] <Dodzey> BobSongs: Rosegarden briefly, lilypond never
[11:40] <BobSongs> debrisss: Yay!
[11:40] <debrisss> :) :) :)
[11:40] <admin__> or, what might create an fstab when ubuntu gets installed for the first time ?
[11:40] <stefg> KenSentMe: totem is just a dummy package. the real ones are totem-gstreamer or totem-xine. I guess it's safe to remove since it was only transitional
[11:40] <Dodzey> Bobsongs: why do all the linux based sequencers have daft names...saying that "cubase" isn't much better
[11:40] <debrisss> so that's ONE problem solved ;)
[11:41] <BobSongs> debrisss: Azureus has disappeared from my system. I don't understand why, really. What's happening is I may have selected it from the huge list of packages and the previous install is ... gone.
[11:41] <roryyy48> classroom ubuntu???
[11:41] <BobSongs> Dodzey: LOL!!!
[11:42] <KreativeLight> HELP!   Don't buck the system, man! Get with it. Almost every second program must begin with "Yet Another..." LOL
[11:42] <debrisss> BobSongs: is azureus the be all and end all of all bittorrent clients for linux? I'd be willing to use another (I was a utorrent user in windoze...)
[11:42] <KreativeLight> hyphenated: I really don't remember, it had something AD
[11:43] <BobSongs> debrisss: There are other packages. You just installed Ubuntu today? Are you switching from another distro? Or from Windows? Or Mac?
[11:43] <hyphenated> KreativeLight: once you know what the last one is, you'll know what to search the wiki for ;-)
[11:43] <stefg> KreativeLight: you need to be more informative on that to get any help. Hardware, kernel-Version and a paste of 'dmesg' to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ would help
[11:43] <taomaster> hello all- how do i change root password
[11:43] <debrisss> BobSongs: just installed ubuntu today - switched from windoze - HAVE used linux b4, but it's been awhile (back in the days of redhat before fedora...)
[11:43] <stefg> !root
[11:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:43] <hyphenated> you can't get the output of dmesg when you're shutting down :-0
[11:44] <BobSongs> debrisss: Open Synaptic Package Manager (System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager) and search for bittorrent.
[11:44] <KreativeLight> hyphenated & stefg:  It happens after unmounting root file systems and LVM
[11:44] <BobSongs> debrisss: Ahh. You were a Linux flirter too, eh?
[11:44] <Dodzey> BobSongs: hah..yeah...brb...just finished fixing a friends system...gotta unplug it all...i was so tempted to put ubuntu on...but he'd only scream "where is my start button"
[11:44] <stefg> KreativeLight: an ACPI problem i assume...
[11:44] <debrisss> BobSongs: there's only bittorrent, bittornado, a few obscure clients and azureus - nothing i can really TRUST imho
[11:44] <neutrinomass> Dodzey: Then Kubuntu ;)
[11:44] <BobSongs> Dodzey: lol!!
[11:44] <nemlah> Hello all
[11:45] <nemlah> i am facing a weird monitor problem
[11:45] <BobSongs> nemlah: Describe your problem.
[11:45] <debrisss> BobSongs: i WAS, now i'm never going back to windoze - m$ is too good at finding copied versions of windoze ;)
[11:45] <nemlah> the screen area is larger then the actual screen thus allowing me to pan
[11:45] <nemlah> i am using a dual screen setup with fglrx
[11:45] <BobSongs> debrisss: I must be the only one on the entire IRC that has actually paid for his copy of XP!
[11:45] <topyli> Dodzey: this "start" button, is it the same button you use to "shut down" windows? :)
[11:46] <debrisss> BobSongs: *blink*
[11:46] <KreativeLight> KreativeLight's tech brother: hyphenated: I'll find out what exactly was the last task executed during shutdown and I'll get back to you in five. Thanks.
[11:46] <BobSongs> debrisss: LOL!!
[11:46] <debrisss> you can PAY for xp??
[11:46] <debrisss> ...
[11:46] <BobSongs> debrisss: Odd, eh?
[11:46] <hyphenated> KreativeLight: have fun. I might not be here, but 700 other people will be :)
[11:46] <noiesmo> you can PAY for xp?? <-------- never
[11:46] <debrisss> BobSongs: who would have thought
[11:47] <KreativeLight> Thanks! :)
[11:47] <BobSongs> debrisss: I'm an honest man. I hated laying down any money at the "alter" of MSFT. Trust me. And it's the very last time I make that mistake.
[11:47] <taomaster> to change root password,is it chnpaswd?
[11:47] <Dodzey> topyli: exactly, I can't understand the logic....that's why on my windows box ive made "shutdown" icons on the desktop...much more sensible
[11:47] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Yeah. It hurt. But I did.
[11:47] <nemlah> Is there a possibility i have to enter the horizontal and vertical synch of my monitors? gnome worked before the problem appeared with kde
[11:47] <stefg> taomaster: do you have a root account at all on your machine?
[11:47] <taomaster> i thought i did
[11:48] <noiesmo> BobSongs, I've been fortunate to get free thru work but I don't even use it
[11:48] <stefg> !sudo > taomaster
[11:48] <debrisss> BobSongs: the ONLY thing i was waiting for so that i could go 100% to linux was wireless support and pocket pc support - ubuntu supported my wifi card out of the box and i got evolution synched with my ppc this morning...
[11:48] <debrisss> BobSongs: ppc support is still a bit clumsy, but it's THERE
[11:48] <noiesmo> BobSongs, well at work only
[11:48] <topyli> Dodzey: when i last had a windows machine (win98) i found a way to crack explorer.exe so i changed it to read "Snarf"
[11:48] <taomaster> i use sudo and it does not work
[11:48] <stefg> taomaster: read ubotus PM please
[11:48] <BobSongs> doiesmo: Free? Kewl! My office never did THAT for us. :-S
[11:48] <taomaster> said password word is wrong
[11:48] <taomaster> so i think i can change it
[11:48] <noiesmo> BobSongs, gov job licence agreement
[11:49] <Dodzey> topyli: yeah, resource hacks are always fun
[11:49] <stefg> taomaster: read ubotus PM please
[11:49] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Understood.
[11:49] <micahcowan> Unfortunately, those of us who are hopelessly addicted to games will be forced to retain Windows... I'll be danged if they're gonna squeeze money outta me for Vista, tho'.
[11:49] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Well, paying for XP made it easy to re-install XP each time I'd overdone the tweaking... or installed too many confliction programs.
[11:49] <stefg> !offtopic
[11:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:50] <rswday> Hey, does anyone know how to set-up the internet on Ubuntu using a wireless card? I'm stuck
[11:50] <stefg> !wifi
[11:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <noiesmo> micahcowan, looks like you get an xbox then eventually you'll need vista for newer games you'll see
[11:50] <Dodzey> stefg subtley hinting we should all go to #ubuntu-offtopic hehe
[11:50] <noiesmo> sorry stefg no more offtopic for me
[11:51] <george_looney> hello people
[11:51] <george_looney> I have a question regarding AMAVIS and SA
[11:51] <george_looney> I am not able to see the SA headers in the mail messages
[11:51] <nemlah> how do i change the graphical login manager
[11:51] <nemlah> from kdm to gdm
[11:51] <nemlah> ?
[11:52] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Here's the funny thing: the last time I installed XP the activation failed. MSFT complained that I had "overactivated" the software and had to phone in the problem. Yeah. Like that's about to happen. This happened the same day I had decided to use Ubuntu (Breezy Badger just came out) as my main O/S. So I said: "It's a sign! I'm no longer going to use XP as my primary O/S!"
[11:52] <george_looney> sudo nemlah: update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[11:52] <cowmilk> so i removed a package via "sudo aptitude remove ". but how do i also get rid of any possible conffiles, too?
[11:52] <taomaster> thanx 4 the info on the password issue
[11:52] <george_looney> sudo nemlah: update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[11:53] <stefg> sudo nemlah:  command not found :-P
[11:53] <cowmilk> how do i check my history of commands that i did in terminal , with commands i did that begun with "sudo aptitude install"?
[11:53] <debrisss> what does everyone here use for irc? I'm using chatzilla now, but is there something easier/better?
[11:53] <george_looney> stefg: D-Oh
[11:53] <cowmilk> debrisss: opera's chat client
[11:53] <noiesmo> BobSongs, :) dam I am lucky then as the xp we uses needs no activation can install as many times and its guinuine everytime
[11:53] <nemlah> huh.. thanks
[11:54] <george_looney> cowmilk: grep aptitude .bash_history
[11:54] <debrisss> cowmilk: i've heard a LOT about opera lately - is it that much better than firefox?
[11:54] <BobSongs> noiesmo: Your copy would be the "Corporate Edition" then. No activation required.
[11:54] <cowmilk> debrisss: i hear it's got less of a memory footprint.
[11:54] <noiesmo> BobSongs, yep
[11:54] <debrisss> cowmilk: you been using it long?
[11:54] <BobSongs> debrisss: It's not bad, really.
[11:55] <cowmilk> debrisss: ever since i heard that firefox leaks memory
[11:55] <stefg> debrisss: give it a try... i personally prefer firefox because of the relly brilliant adblocking features with the adblock extension
[11:55] <RunUO22748> whats is LVM/
[11:55] <cowmilk> debrisss: for 1 year now
[11:55] <RunUO22748> ?
[11:55] <george_looney> can someone please help me with AMAVIS and SA?
[11:55] <Dodzey> cowmilk: i've found flock to be pretty good
[11:55] <cowmilk> but used it a few years ago, too
[11:55] <BobSongs> debrisss: Yeah. Old memory leaked from Firefox is still stuck to my keyboard.
[11:55] <debrisss> lol
[11:55] <RunUO22748> whats lvm?
[11:55] <cowmilk> Dodzey: my old p3 500mhz probably could't handl flock
[11:56] <george_looney> RunUO22748: LVM = Logical Volume Manager
[11:56] <noiesmo> linux volume management
[11:56] <noiesmo> l/linux/logical
[11:56] <cowmilk> george_looney:  your grep aptitude .bash_history didn't work
[11:56] <BobSongs> debrisss: But overall Opera works fairly well in Ubuntu; faster load time than FF, imho
[11:56] <Dodzey> cowmilk: maybe not....ive got tonnes of tabs open and its using 60mb
[11:56] <RunUO22748> Ok well ill just do it the old way
[11:56] <debriss> dude :)
[11:57] <debriss> ok - this is not a bad client...
[11:57] <GioSico> Anyone with software RAID experience out there? I recently had to move two hard drives that were mirrored from one ubuntu to 6.06 ... now they dont show any content ... there is no mdadm.conf file ... and I am thinking there is a problem with the UUID of the old computer verus that of the new one ... anyone have any thoughts? Much thanks ...
[11:57] <tanlaan> anyone know how to change the return address mutt gives? I changed my computers name in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts and reboot and sent a test mail to another email account and it was still using my old computer name. any help would be awesome
[11:57] <debriss> weird to be surfing, downloading a torrent and chatting in the same window lol
[11:57] <george_looney> cowmilk: what user did you run aptitude as?
[11:57] <stefg> tanlaan: you'd need to reconfigure mutt teh
[11:57] <stefg> *then
[11:58] <Luke> is there a way to downgrade from edgy back to dapper?
[11:58] <debriss> ummm - is opera suddenly free?
[11:58] <tanlaan> stefg: hmm should i just reinstall it in synaptic? :D
[11:58] <debriss> no ads anywhere...
[11:58] <cowmilk> george_looney: as sudo
[11:58] <BobSongs> debriss: Are you torrenting with Azureus?
[11:58] <stefg> tanlaan: i guess a sudo dpkg-reconfigure mutt would do it
[11:58] <george_looney> cowmilk: sudo grep aptitude .bash_history
[11:59] <tanlaan> stefg: hmm ill try it
[11:59] <Dodzey> BobSongs: lilypond just generates score sheets from midi...yeah?
[11:59] <debriss> BobSongs: nope - opera ;)
[11:59] <BobSongs> Dodzey: It's a command-line scoring package that integrates into many other software packages, Rosegarden being one.
[12:00] <cowmilk> george_looney grep: .bash_history: No such file or directory
[12:00] <BobSongs> debriss: Opera torrents? Opera rocks.
[12:00] <BobSongs> debriss: Opera's been free for quite a few months now.
[12:00] <Dodzey> BobSongs: ahh..so you use it alongside rosegarden...cool...i should maybes try and set up some recording software on my linux install...i just use my xp one for music
[12:00] <redblades> Hi, how can I check stuff like harddrive capacity, and how many HDs are connected?
[12:00] <RunUO22748> When i install Ubuntu Server 6.06 does it install apps? or is it a like an old netinstall?
[12:01] <george_looney> cowmilk: ohhh, only sudo does not start a login shell!
[12:01] <debriss> BobSongs: we started talking about opera, i got curious.... now opera's the only window i have open lol
[12:01] <micahcowan> cowmilk, use ~/.bash_history (and I don't see why sudo would be necessary...)
[12:01] <shiv> My windows loads fine her /media/windows but cannot see any longer on desktop
[12:01] <george_looney> cowmilk: plus the HISTSIZE is probably small and all your aptitude commands have popped out
[12:01] <tanlaan> stefg: that didnt work
[12:01] <debriss> BobSongs: well how DARE they make it free software - now i have NOTHING to crack :(
[12:01] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Same here. XP's still ahead in music. Few people use their PCs for serious music editing (compared to the vast number that use spreadsheets and word processors, etc.) Imagine how few Linux users use their machines for editing.
[12:02] <tanlaan> stefg: im gonna try the reinstall
[12:02] <BobSongs> debriss: Stressful, isn't it?
[12:02] <cowmilk> george_looney:  micahcowan ok it works now. but i don't see the more recent sudo aptitude commans that i ran.
[12:02] <debriss> BobSongs: downright crappy, i'd say
[12:03] <BobSongs> debriss: You already know that free software is hugely available for Linux. You'll have to crack software... just to run it in Wine.
[12:03] <george_looney> cowmilk: you could press CTRL+R
[12:03] <micahcowan> cowmilk, recent history hasn't been saved to bash_history, if it was the current shell.
[12:03] <george_looney> cowmilk: that will bring up the reverse search
[12:03] <boing757895445> hi there
[12:03] <george_looney> cowmilk: or just logout from all consoles
[12:03] <micahcowan> cowmilk, ^^ what george_looney said, plus you could grep the output of the "history" command.
[12:03] <george_looney> cowmilk: ...and login again and then grep aptitude .bash_history
[12:03] <micahcowan> history | grep aptitude
[12:03] <mikeymike-linux> can anyone help me with my hp digital camera..... its set to be a 'drive' and when i plug it in ubuntu detects it as a camera and asks if i want to ignore or import..... i choose import and select the pictures i want to import..... i click the import button and it does nothing...
[12:04] <Lynoure> BobSongs: There is at least couple of commercial DJ suites for linux. Dunno about composing/editing otherwise
[12:04] <cowmilk> george_looney: what do i type after i do "CTRL + R"
[12:04] <fyrestrtr> mikeymike-linux: use f-spot
[12:04] <m4rk> how do I get gnome network manager to manage my wifi connection?
[12:04] <debriss> BobSongs: what the heck am i supposed to do with all my time now?? something PRODUCTIVE????????