[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62223 in kde-guidance (main) "Monitor & Display, User Management, Disk & Filesystems - All Broken" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62223
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62224 in mplayer (multiverse) "mplayer-nogui 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu4 (amd64 binary) in ubuntu edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62224
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62225 in update-manager (main) "Could not calculate the upgrade" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62225
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62226 in gnome-applets (main) "Mixer claims "muted" and I still receive sound" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62226
[01:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62227 in arson (universe) "Arson fails to burn from .iso" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62227
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62229 in nethack (universe) "Incorrect path to playground in man page" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62229
[02:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62230 in Ubuntu "[edgy]  Corrupt graphics on boot" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62230
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62231 in at-spi (main) "Problem report on login" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62231
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62233 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed - trying to install to sdb instead of sda" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62233
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62234 in Ubuntu "Knot 3: ATI 9600xt black screen freeze with Desktop CD" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62234
[03:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62235 in libgpod (main) "New upstream release supports later iPod models" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62235
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62236 in kernel-package (main) "warning: UTS_RELEASE has moved to utsrelease.h" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62236
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62237 in Ubuntu "Please sync quicksynergy (universe) from Debian unstable" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62237
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62239 in hal (main) "Suspend and hotswapping problems caused by hald-addon-storage" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62239
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62240 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62240
[05:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62243 in boost (main) "please sync boost 1.33.1-7 from Debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62243
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62244 in bochs (universe) "Debugging mode not enabled in Bochs." [Untriaged,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62244
[06:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62245 in samba (main) "XFS Group Quotas are not working" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62245
[07:40] <dholbach> good morning
[07:42] <Hobbsee> hey dholbach!
[07:42] <dholbach> heya Hobbsee
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62248 in Ubuntu "kernel-image-2.6.17-9-amd64-generic panics on boot" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62248
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62249 in bzr (main) "merge from bundles should support io redirection" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62249
[07:59] <Kagou> morning
[07:59] <nictuku> hi
[08:00] <dholbach> hey Kagou
[08:00] <Kagou> hey dholbach
[08:02] <dholbach> woohooo
[08:02] <dholbach> new members for the HugSquad!
[08:02] <dholbach> we're at 165 now!
[08:04] <Fujitsu> :O
[08:07] <Kagou> :)
[08:08] <dholbach> is marking as dup broken for you guys too?
[08:08] <dholbach> I tried to mark bug 62231 as a dup of bug 56452
[08:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62231 in at-spi "Problem report on login" [Untriaged,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62231
[08:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 56452 in at-spi "Edgy: at-spi Crashes frequently (crash reports no longer necessary)" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/56452
[08:09] <dholbach> hey keescook
[08:09] <dholbach> welcome to the crew! :)
[08:09] <keescook> hi dholbach!  :)  Thanks.  :)
[08:09] <dholbach> keescook: you're up late, hm? :-)
[08:09] <keescook> I figure I'm already going to be using the tracker pretty heavily with security work, figured I should join the bugsquad team too.  :)
[08:09] <dholbach> ah nevermind, me marking bugs as dup works again
[08:09] <keescook> yeah, I am.  Having too much fun reading all the wiki pages.  :)
[08:09] <dholbach> hehe :)
[08:10] <dholbach> keescook: and with the bugsquad you have a nice emblem on your LP page too ;)
[08:10] <keescook> precisely!  :):)
[08:10] <ajmitch> dholbach: I've got you all beat, I have an NZ logo on mine ;)
[08:11] <Fujitsu> I like the MOTU fist.
[08:12] <dholbach> ajmitch: wow /me looks
[08:12] <ajmitch> keescook: so what security things do you plan to do? mainly keeping on top of vulnerabilities?
[08:12] <keescook> Fujitsu: hey, I used your awsome right-floating table for my wiki page.  that looks great; I couldn't pass it up.  :)
[08:13] <crimsun> oh excellent, now I have someone to push debdiffs to
[08:13] <dholbach> ajmitch: it's quite hard to see what it should resemble :)
[08:13] <ajmitch> dholbach: the country of course
[08:13] <keescook> ajmitch: yeah, I'll basically do whatever pitti tells me to do.  :)
[08:13] <ajmitch> keescook: heh ok
[08:13] <dholbach> ajmitch: it took me like 10 seconds to see that ;)
[08:13] <Fujitsu> keescook, you discovered my wikipage? :O
[08:14] <keescook> Fujitsu: yeah, I was browsing new ubuntu members from the CC agenda wiki.  :)
[08:15] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[08:15] <keescook> ajmitch: the icon should include sheep!  ;)
[08:15] <ajmitch> bah
[08:16] <keescook> ajmitch: I've gotta get an selinux box up and running.  I've been meaning to do that.
[08:16] <ajmitch> keescook: and I've got to try & help out the debian guys who are doing it alone
[08:16] <keescook> I've played with grsec and apparmor, but not se yet
[08:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62251 in kq (universe) "widows / streched mode" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62251
[08:27] <keescook> goodnight folks!
[08:27] <dholbach> sleep tight and see you later!
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62252 in pppoeconf (main) "pppoeconf doesn't start on live cd" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62252
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62253 in Ubuntu "kernel panic (edgy eft)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62253
[08:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62254 in openoffice.org (main) "Create-Form-Wizard doesn't complete" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62254
[08:58] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 62253 in linux-source-2.6.17 "kernel panic (edgy eft)" [High,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62253
[09:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62255 in pptpd (main) "pptpd on edgy" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62255
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62256 in openoffice.org (main) "Fonts on menus are antialiased differently from other programs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62256
[09:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62257 in gforge (universe) "Please sync 3.1-31sarge1 from sarge-security" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62257
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62258 in Ubuntu "The Network settings Lose DNS data after restart" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62258
[10:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #59237 in xserver-xorg-video-mga (main) "Xubuntu login screen shows flashback of previous session after logout." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/59237
[10:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62259 in koverartist (universe) "Missing cd/dvd templates in /usr/share/apps/koverartist/cases" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62259
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60705 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "bugs when multiple users are logged into same machine ...." [Untriaged,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60705
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62261 in Ubuntu "Please sync amap-align 2.0-1 from Debian Sid (main) [[[[[[[[[[[new] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62261
[10:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62260 in notification-daemon (main) "[Edgy]  All Gnome-Power-Manager pop-ups appear in the bottom right corner" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62260
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62264 in azureus (universe) "NullPointerException" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62264
[10:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62265 in Ubuntu "Please sync m16c-flash 0.1-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62265
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62063 in pida (universe) "libgnomevfs" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62063
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62187 in ubiquity (main) "KDE ubiquity crash" [Untriaged,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62187
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62262 in Ubuntu "Please sync avarice 2.4-3 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62262
[10:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62263 in Ubuntu "Please sync biosquid 1.9g+cvs20050121-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62263
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62242 in apache2 (main) "[Edgy]  No binaries for Apache 2 2.0.55-4ubuntu3 for CVE-2006-3747" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62242
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62266 in Ubuntu "Please sync pyepl 1.0.14.dfsg.1-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62266
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62268 in Ubuntu "Please sync pyode 1.1.0-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62268
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62271 in Ubuntu "Please sync zimpl 2.05.ds1-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62271
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62269 in Ubuntu "Please sync poa 2.0-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62269
[11:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62272 in Ubuntu "Please sync boinc-app-seti 5.13+cvs20060510-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62272
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62273 in Ubuntu "Please sync astronomical-almanac 5.6-1 from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62273
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62274 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "[edgy]  slmodem not working out-of-the-box on ThinkPad R52" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62274
[11:13] <dholbach> 713 unread desktop bugs mails
[11:13] <seb128> 308 here
[11:14] <pschulz01> dholbach: Is that ubuntu-desktop?
[11:14] <pschulz01> Sorry.. misunderstood.
[11:15] <dholbach> pschulz01<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:20] <poningru> heh
[11:20] <poningru> wow
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62275 in bzr (main) "pull and update with lightweight c heckouts should only affect the	working tree" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62275
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62277 in gnome-menus (main) "Missing "properties" option in context menu" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62277
[11:47] <seb128> gnomefreak: what?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> adding a properties to the context menu for gnome-menus bug # 62277
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62278 in Ubuntu "Edgy not working with Safecom routers" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62278
[11:53] <cbx33> There is still the bug in d-i where if you press Alt+Tab whilst the progress bar is on screen it freezes the entire installation.......very annoying if you are on a VMware machine
[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62279 in Ubuntu "Hibenate on Logout doesn't work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62279
[12:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62280 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu Server 6.06.1 Crashes on Boot Configuring Network Interfaces" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62280
[12:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62282 in xchat-gnome (main) "words hilight doesn't work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62282
[12:41] <fabiand> hey
[12:41] <fabiand> i suppose i found a bug :)
[12:42] <fabiand> when running "dd if=somefile of=someotherfile" i get a segfault ... gdb discovers: 0x00002aaaaad3afa0 in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6
[12:42] <fabiand> can someone confirm this bug?
[12:42] <fabiand> oh ... using 6.06 lts with all updates
[12:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62283 in k3b (main) "k3b when you select open, filters to only projects" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62283
[12:46] <neutrinomass> fabiand: known issue
[12:46] <geser> fabiand: see bug 42264 if it the same issue
[12:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 42264 in gettext "language pack po files drop cflag comment which causes segfaults in e. g. 'dd'" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/42264
[12:55] <fabiand> geser, neutrinomass .. okay, i just looked in coreutils...
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62284 in opencv (universe) "cvFitEllipse() function does not work" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62284
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62285 in kdebase (main) "cannot disable preview of postscript files" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62285
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62286 in Ubuntu "OpenOffice Impress Crashes on save" [Untriaged,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62286
[01:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62287 in pybliographer (universe) "1.2.9 released - please sync with Debian" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62287
[02:01] <pirast> when i mark a bug as a duplicate, should i reject it then?
[02:04] <neutrinomass> pirast: Nah, that's not neccessary
[02:04] <pirast> neutrinomass: thanks :-)
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62290 in update-manager (main) "Edgy: Update manager problem might confuse users" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62290
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62288 in libsdl1.2 (main) "libsdl ignores gamma settings above 1.0" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62288
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62289 in ubiquity (main) "Unable to install on /dev/sda " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62289
[02:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62291 in kdebase (main) "Image from removable device set as background not kept" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62291
[02:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62292 in adept (main) "Mismatched db being locked and dpkg having been interrupted" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62292
[02:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62293 in scsh-0.6 (universe) "Depends: scsh-0.6  but it is not installable" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62293
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62294 in zsh (main) "Euro character does not display correctly in Gnome terminal" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62294
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62295 in gtkpod (universe) "Update to 0.99.8" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62295
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62297 in evolution (main) "Opening Exchange calendar crashes" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62297
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62296 in firefox (main) "Button go in location bar souldn't expand" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62296
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62298 in synaptic (main) "[Edgy]  Segmentation Fault when doing various operations" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62298
[03:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62299 in kaffeine (main) "kaffeine interferes with sticky keys" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62299
[03:57] <bddebian> Boo
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62301 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62301
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62300 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  fonts are not displayed in GTK2 applications" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62300
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62302 in usplash (main) "usplash 0.4 does not show proper progress for shutdown/reboot" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62302
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62303 in adept (main) "Adept should update one group of packages at a time" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62303
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62304 in alacarte (main) "alacarte doesn't honor changed .desktop files" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62304
[04:11] <pirast> lo.. ubugtu lag :-)
[04:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62305 in openoffice.org (main) "Progress bar is off-centre in OpenOffice.org splash screen" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62305
[04:20] <neutrinomass> so many bugs :(
[04:20] <Hobbsee> indeed
[04:22] <ogra> how about fiing them first ? :P
[04:23] <ogra> *fixing
[04:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 7560 in nautilus "Wastebasket fails with read only directories" [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7560
[04:26] <neutrinomass> bddebian: bug 2207 (this is more of a general question): How do you know what the icons should go there without breaking some other part of the app (do you install and play the game to verify it :P ) ?
[04:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 2207 in abuse-frabs "Icons / pixmaps in wrong directory" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/2207
[04:27] <bddebian> neutrinomass: For desktop files?
[04:27] <neutrinomass> bddebian: Um, the bug report is generally about the icons as far as I can tell :-/
[04:28] <dholbach> I must be the only one to accidentally type ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:28] <neutrinomass> lol
[04:29] <bddebian> neutrinomass: Well application icons should be application specific on where it expects them shouldn't it?
[04:29] <neutrinomass> bddebian: That's why I'm asking. The reporter says they should be moved without stating a reason for this (I'm asking you because you said you took a look at the sources )
[04:30] <bddebian> neutrinomass: Sorry I am in a meeting so I can't look at the bug itself atm :-(
[04:30] <neutrinomass> bddebian: ok, sorry. I'll try to figure it out :)
[04:32] <dholbach> is b.g.o broken?
[04:32] <bddebian> neutrinomass: I'll take a look after my meeting
[04:32] <sfllaw> dholbach: It appears so.
[04:33] <dholbach> hmhmhm
[04:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62307 in Ubuntu "Sun Java 5 crashed in Firefox" [Untriaged,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62307
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62308 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Permission Denied on nfs clients for only some files" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62308
[04:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62306 in kimdaba (universe) "Please sync kimdaba (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62306
[04:37] <dholbach> b.g.o is back again
[04:38] <sfllaw> Is Gert Kulyk here?
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #60146 in gstreamer0.10 (main) "Phil Collins causes Nautilus to segfault" [Low,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/60146
[04:47] <crimsun> the ... what?
[04:47] <keescook> (that's not new, I just released it from security/private)
[04:47] <crimsun> ah.
[04:49] <keescook> What's the rule of thumb for priority on null-deref crashes?
[04:51] <sfllaw> keescook: Normally medium.  Unless it's a regression.
[04:51] <dholbach> keescook: Medium - but that depends on the visibility/prominence of the bug
[04:51] <dholbach> hahahahaha, Phil Collins - poor nautilus ;-)
[04:51] <sfllaw> I know.
[04:53] <sfllaw> I guess Nautilus doesn't like slow rock.
[04:53] <keescook> that summary almost made me spit out my drink.  :)  I had to triage that one.  (priority now changed to Med)
[04:53] <dholbach> keescook: I spilled mine into my laptop earlier today - best to keep drinks somewhere else
[04:54] <dholbach> oh, everybody: keescook did the emblem for ubuntu-qa! he's an excellent artist :-)
[04:54] <sfllaw> Hurray!
[04:54] <keescook> ooow!  yeah, mine is kept tightly sealed and way     over there
[04:54] <Hobbsee> hey sfllaw
[04:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62310 in gnome-pilot (main) "Gpilotd does not reply to all sync request " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62310
[04:56] <keescook> dholbach: whats the state of the laptop?  (what sort of drink?)
[04:56] <dholbach> keescook: it's still drying in the sun, I'll try it tomorrow again
[04:56] <dholbach> water
[04:57] <dholbach> the screen went black the power-led went out, so I suppose it was a short circuit or something, we'll see tomorrow
[04:58] <keescook> ah, well, that's the best kind of drink to spill into your laptop.  :(  I hope that dries out okay.
[05:00] <sfllaw> Hobbsee: Hello.
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62309 in abuse-sdl (universe) "abuse segfaults if SIGINT is raised" [Low,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62309
[05:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62311 in rxp (universe) "rxp segfaults when given a bad command line option" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62311
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62312 in ruby1.8 (main) "gnome art manager crash when you try to download some files" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62312
[05:02] <sfllaw> dholbach: My laptop's hard disk makes a nice rattling sound now.  It's no longer detected by the computer.
[05:03] <sfllaw> It's very sad.
[05:03] <dholbach> urg
[05:03] <dholbach> I replaced the disk when it did that kind of noises
[05:04] <dholbach> and I'd obviously replace the laptop too, and I like NEW stuff, but still... :)
[05:04] <sfllaw> Lenovo seems to have discontinued the machine I wanted to buy from them.
[05:05] <dholbach> which one is that?
[05:05] <sfllaw> The T60p with a 1600x1200 screen.
[05:05] <sfllaw> It's disappeared.
[05:07] <dholbach> I resisted the urge for a whole day now to investigate in replacements
[05:09] <sfllaw> Fair enough.
[05:22] <sfllaw> I have a spare hard disk that is 3mm too large.
[05:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62314 in mono (main) "mono crash" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62314
[06:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62315 in ubiquity (main) "Crashed when installing on a P4 Thinkpad" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62315
[06:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62316 in apport (main) "[Synaptic] No notification and report can only be read/write by root" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62316
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62318 in xubuntu-meta (main) "No shipit for xubuntu" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62318
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62317 in evolution (main) "Evolution memory leak on import of csv (Dapper PPC)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62317
[06:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62319 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62319
[06:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62321 in Ubuntu "FAT32 partition on flash drive/USB keyfob gets automounted in case-sensitive mode" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62321
[07:13] <poningru> anyone know what the motu mailing list is?
[07:14] <ivoks> universe-bugs?
[07:14] <ivoks> other is ubuntu-motu
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62322 in openoffice.org (main) "Missing text in "object" context menu" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62322
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62323 in sg3-utils (universe) "[dapper]  libsgutils1-dev should depend on libsgutils1" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62323
[07:24] <poningru> ivoks: thanks
[07:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62324 in gnome-session (main) "gnome-session segfaults on ia64" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62324
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62327 in gdm (main) "Enabling accessible login causes error " [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62327
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62325 in gnome-power-manager (main) "After 20 minute warning, battery status erroneously drops to 0%" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62325
[07:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62326 in ubiquity (main) "I get the message "Installer Crashed" during the installation of Ubuntu 6.06" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62326
[07:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62328 in synaptic (main) "Gdk-CRITICAL, gdk_gc_get_colormap" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62328
[07:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62329 in firefox (main) "Firefox will not import external bookmarks.html file" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62329
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62330 in kde-guidance (main) "[edgy ] screen brightness" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62330
[08:09] <nixternal> sfllaw: i searched briefly for a "shipit" product..my fault on that one ;)
[08:12] <sfllaw> nixternal: No worries.
[08:12] <sfllaw> It's a completely different thingie.
[08:13] <sfllaw> The UI is not so good for things outside the distribution context.
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62332 in rhythmbox (main) "(edgy) rhythmbox freeze on audio-cd creation" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62332
[08:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62333 in openoffice.org-l10n (main) "please remove openoffice.org-l10n-sh-yu" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62333
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62334 in upgrade-system (universe) "Upgrade caused dual-boot grub to destroy Win2K disk" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62334
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62336 in lvm2 (main) "fstab uses UUIDs for lvm volumes on a new install" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62336
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62337 in xmms-scrobbler (universe) "Tracks with very long names aren't submitted" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62337
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62338 in language-pack-fr (main) "Bad translation of translator-credits" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62338
[09:40] <huats_> hey all... I'd like to help a bit with triagging.... But I dont know how to handle this bug by instance :  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50256
[09:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 50256 in Ubuntu "Quit/Shutdown Panel Applet Should Be Moved to lower right corner" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]
[09:40] <huats_> does anybody can help me ? for my self it is not a bug but a wish list...
[09:40] <huats_> what is the right thing to do ?
[09:42] <neutrinomass> huats_: Well, you can comment with your opinion. Since this refers only to Gnome (I'm not sure about xfce though), you can assign it to ubuntu-desktop as well
[09:42] <huats_> so I can confirm it ?
[09:42] <huats_> I mean, this is not a bug...
[09:43] <neutrinomass> Well, wishlist items like these classify as "bugs"
[09:43] <huats_> ok
[09:43] <dsas> huats_: You might want to reject it and ask them to bring it up on the ubuntu-desktop mailling list
[09:43] <neutrinomass> You aren't allowed to set the "importance" of the bug so you needn't worry about that
[09:44] <dsas> huats_: Or just let it be wishlist. either way refer them to the desktop list
[09:44] <fredzer>  i have a ATI Radeon Xpress 200  inbuilt GPU    and its stuck on 640*480 .. i cant change res cos thats the only opition so im stuck ... any help?
[09:44] <neutrinomass> Yeah, that can be done as well (although sebastien/daniel will take a look eventually )
[09:44] <dsas> fredzer: You might want to try #ubuntu for help see also http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#
[09:45] <dholbach> huats_: how's it going?
[09:45] <huats_> dholbach: hello daniel
[09:45] <huats_> I am alright
[09:45] <huats_> and you ?
[09:45] <dholbach> tired, but ok - thanks
[09:46] <neutrinomass> fredzer: This is not a support channel. Nevertheless, you should do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowTo ) . Please promise you will  file a bug about this and attach everything listed in step 5 of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration :)
[09:46] <huats_> thanks again with the system tray test
[09:46] <dholbach> huats_: no problem
[09:46] <dholbach> fredzer: what I said about support channels :)
[09:47] <fredzer> ok lol
[09:47] <neutrinomass> huats_: Regarding the bug, I disagree. I'm already fed up with the trash applet being in the bottom right
[09:47] <huats_> neutrinomass: I disagree with the bug too....
[09:48] <neutrinomass> huats_: At least for me it's far too common to misclick the trash than the power button (especially when scrolling or so in firefox )
[09:50] <huats_> so to sum up : I can put that bug in the wishlit...and refer about it to the desktop list ? And on the same time I can put my opinion in comment in the bug ?
[09:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62341 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "ndiswrapper crashes when laptop is unplugged" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62341
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62339 in openoffice.org (main) "Crash on selecting columns and graphic" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62339
[09:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62340 in telepathy-gabble (universe) "Seems not to support SRV." [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62340
[09:52] <neutrinomass> huats_: Yeah, something like that. You aren't allowed to mark the importance of the bug (thus to change it to a wishlist) but you are encouraged to comment. I'm not sure whether you should confirm it, but it doesn't really matter (such a change will probably be discussed anyway). If it's a totally outrageous request, you're also welcome to reject it :-) (this isn't one of these cases though)
[09:52] <huats_> neutrinomass: ok
[09:52] <huats_> neutrinomass: thanks, I will do so...
[09:53] <huats_> the thing is even after that, it'll be "untriaged, unconfirmed" right ? just if nobody had a look at it ?
[09:54] <huats_> (of course, if you hadn't marked it as wishlist)
[09:54] <neutrinomass> Well, yes. Setting it to confirmed could also be interpreted as "this has been discussed and approved".
[09:55] <huats_> neutrinomass: ok
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62342 in gdm (main) "gdmgreeter Failed to connect to socket" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62342
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62343 in language-pack-en-base (main) "wants to remove language-pack-en, but need it" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62343
[09:55] <dsas> huats_: you should assign the package to gnome-panel (I think)
[09:56] <huats_> dsas: ok
[09:56] <huats_> good idea indeed
[09:56] <sfllaw> Gah!  How did I get this burn on my finger?
[09:57] <neutrinomass> sfllaw: You must be the only sober person to notice a burn after it has happened :p
[09:59] <huats_> dsas: how can assign it to gnome panel ?
[10:02] <neutrinomass> huats_: Click on the blue "Ubuntu" and enter in the product field " "gnome-panel"
[10:03] <huats_> neutrinomass: I am feeling really dumb right now... thanks...
[10:08] <sfllaw> neutrinomass: I get distracted sometimes.
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62345 in evolution (main) "evolution fails to complain about wrong imap protocol" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62345
[10:21] <dholbach> sfllaw: I hope you can approve your own bugsquad post ;-)
[10:22] <sfllaw> dholbach: One hopes.
[10:22] <dholbach> so you sent those mails with a @ubuntu mail address again?
[10:22] <huats_> A little advice again : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/61461 i've check on edgy it is not the good package neither on dapper ... I suspect an other conflict with old,  may be it could be a good thing to ask for more precision ?
[10:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61461 in samba "Wrong deps for package" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]
[10:24] <sfllaw> dholbach: I did.  The e-mail client got confused and used my personal address.
[10:25] <dholbach> ok
[10:25] <dholbach> then I don't need to approve on other lists
[10:31] <sfllaw> huats_: It looks like dapper-security has a broken package.
[10:31] <sfllaw> You can see this by looking at: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/otherosfs/smbfs
[10:31] <sfllaw> You will want to subscribe the security team to this, then in the comments ask them to fix this.
[10:32] <huats_> sfllaw: ok
[10:34] <zul> sfllaw: what nfs patch? btw :)
[10:34] <sfllaw> zul: Context, please?
[10:34] <huats_> sfllaw: the thing is that I am runnng dapper with security updates and that i've just installed this package right now with out any pb....
[10:34] <zul> #62308
[10:34] <sfllaw> zul: Are you talking about...
[10:34] <zul> er...bug number 62308
[10:34] <sfllaw> Yeah.
[10:34] <huats_> sfllaw: so I don't understand how this bug is happening...
[10:35] <sfllaw> If you look at the changelog, -7 has an NFS fix for bug 57543.
[10:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 57543 in linux-source-2.6.17 "NFSv4 Client do not work" [High,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/57543
[10:35] <zul> ah ok...
[10:35] <sfllaw> huats_: Dapper security has smbfs (3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1)
[10:35] <sfllaw> It suggests samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1)
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62346 in obconf (universe) "Missing libobrender.so.1" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62346
[10:35] <sfllaw> I'm sorry.
[10:35] <sfllaw> I must be addled.
[10:36] <huats_> sfllaw:  what do you mean ?
[10:37] <sfllaw> It means that I'm confused.
[10:37] <huats_> sfllaw: I know what it means :-)
[10:37] <huats_> sfllaw: I mean, that I don't see the pb...
[10:37] <sfllaw> It looks like if the user does an apt* update, he'll get the right package listing.
[10:37] <huats_> sfllaw: I think so...
[10:37] <sfllaw> Yeah.
[10:38] <sfllaw> Then it's safe to reject it.
[10:38] <huats_> sfllaw: so I might add a comment to ask him to do so ?
[10:38] <sfllaw> But Subscribe to the bug so that if the user reports it still doesn't work, you'll know.
[10:39] <huats_> so I reject by telling him to update/upgrade... and as I am already susbcribed, if there is a pb I'll know. Right ?
[10:45] <sfllaw> PB?
[10:50] <kchopein> hi everybody!
[10:50] <kchopein> i'm new here!
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62347 in evolution (main) "limitations of abiword's zoom can make it impossible to zoom to near "actual size"" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62347
[10:51] <huats_> kchopein: welcome here... I am ne too :-)
[10:51] <sfllaw> kchopein: Welcome!
[10:51] <kchopein> I just read about bugs day and I wanted to help
[10:52] <sfllaw> kchopein: Hurray!
[10:52] <kchopein> I usually report bugs, but what can I do here?
[10:52] <sfllaw> It's not Wednesday yet, but we'd love your help at any time.
[10:52] <sfllaw> Well, bugs will fly across the screen here.
[10:52] <sfllaw> And you can also find untriaged ones at the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay.
[10:52] <kchopein> I'm a web developer, so web apps are my strong point!
[10:53] <sfllaw> Good good.
[10:53] <sfllaw> You can look at the packages you use most.
[10:53] <sfllaw> A good introduction is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs.
[10:53] <kchopein> ok
[10:54] <kchopein> I'll read it and then come back!
[10:54] <kchopein> I love this, think it's great!
[10:54] <huats_> sfllaw: I've seen many like this ... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/61223 what can I do about it ?
[10:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61223 in linux-source-2.6.17 "macbook trackpad support" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]
[10:55] <sfllaw> Are they all the same?
[10:55] <huats_> no
[10:55] <huats_> sorry for the misunderstanding
[10:55] <sfllaw> Well, 61223 is a wishlist bug, if you can reproduce it.
[10:55] <sfllaw> (I don't have a MacBook.)
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62348 in inkscape (main) "fatal crash with BadAlloc" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62348
[10:56] <huats_> I mean many of this kind : "I'd like such stuff", "I'd like to have that"
[10:56] <sfllaw> huats_: Ah.
[10:56] <sfllaw> If you can reproduce that it doesn't exist and can find a proposed solution, feel free to Confirmed the bug.
[10:56] <huats_> ok
[10:56] <sfllaw> If you post the bug number in here, we can guide you through the first few.
[10:57] <huats_> sfllaw: ok
[10:57] <huats_> sfllaw: so as I have a macbook running ubuntu I can try to reproduce the https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/61223
[10:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61223 in linux-source-2.6.17 "macbook trackpad support" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]
[10:57] <sfllaw> Yay.
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62349 in gmailfs (universe) "GmailFS won't mount" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62349
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62350 in gmailfs (universe) "Please sync gmailfs 0.7.2-2 from debian unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62350
[11:09] <huats_> sfllaw: so with bug 61223 I have to run edgy and a patched kernel to be able to confirm it ?
[11:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 61223 in linux-source-2.6.17 "macbook trackpad support" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/61223
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62352 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Kernel Update removes Intel Pro Wireless 3945" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62352
[11:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62351 in xchat-gnome (main) "Channel List window leads to a crash with premature window closing" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62351
[11:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62353 in evolution (main) "Folders with unread mail are displayed incorrectly: folder-display|<folder name>(<#unread mails)" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62353
[11:27] <sfllaw> huats_: It's a case-by-case thing.
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62354 in tor (universe) "Package outdated" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62354
[11:39] <beford> ---------------
[11:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62356 in gdm (main) "gdm segfaults on ia64" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62356
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62359 in gnome-app-install (main) "Some more typos" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62359
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #62360 in tor (universe) "Please sync tor (universe) from unstable (main)" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/62360


[04:48] <davidhurwich> hi, wondering if I could ask a question about Lubuntu
[04:50] <kc2bez> This is the place for Lubuntu support.
[04:54] <davidhurwich> I installed Lubuntu 16.04 on an older HP laptop. The installation went through, but when the computer boots or reboots I get a message that states “No bootable image found, notebook will be shutdown” The laptop then shuts down
[04:54] <davidhurwich> When I turn on the computer and go into Boot Option I can run it until an option marked Ubuntu
[04:55] <davidhurwich> How can I get the OS to boot automatically when the computer boots up?
[04:56] <davidhurwich> Any advice would be appreciated
[05:01] <kc2bez> 16.04 is unfortunately EOL and unsupported.
[05:02] <kc2bez> !eol
[05:03] <davidhurwich> is there a way to update the OS for Lubuntu without wiping the hard drive clean?
[05:03] <oerheks> no, not for 16.04
[05:04] <oerheks> download a fresh 20.04 LTS iso
[05:04] <davidhurwich> okay
[17:09] <indoxxi> halo
[21:34] <auctus> if i drag an icon from the "start menu" (or whatever its called) to the desktop to create a shortcut, and then I click the shortcut, it says "This file seems to be a desktop entry. What do you want to do with it? Open, Execute, Cancel
[21:34] <auctus> also it has a little (!) icon on it
[21:34] <auctus> how do i make uh, normal desktop icons that just open when you click them?
[21:37] <Maik> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/5/5.2/desktop_icons.html
[21:37] <Maik> auctus: maybe there's some info in the manual ^
[21:39] <auctus> ah, right click and select trusted; i see, thanks
[21:40] <auctus> perhaps that should be the default for things that came with lubuntu, e.g. firefox
[21:48] <krytarik> Well, the desktop item you just created by cloning the one from the menu, didn't though.
[21:50] <auctus> i suppose it's difficult, because although firefox is trusted, the contents of the .desktop file could in theory be anything
[21:51] <krytarik> The 'trusted' bit only relates to the launcher.


[02:43] <duck_> hi
[02:45] <duck_> im very happy about lubuntu, i love it    its working like a charm there is only one thing:
[02:45] <duck_> the machine is hot
[02:46] <duck_> even if i dont do anything, process at 1%, fan loud, machine hot
[02:46] <Unit193> May be dusty.
[02:47] <duck_> battery is fast empty
[02:47] <duck_> on my windows partition everything is silent and cold
[02:47] <duck_> i found this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1943476&page=4
[02:48] <Unit193> 11.10 heated up faster, IIRC.
[02:48] <Unit193> If you wait about a week or so, 12.04 will be out and that's supposed to be better with that.
[02:48] <duck_> im having exactly the same prob as this guy there
[02:49] <duck_> yeah 5 days ?  :)
[02:49] <duck_> in ubuntu and xubuntu its cool too
[02:49] <Unit193> Did you follow what htat said to do?
[02:49] <Unit193> That's a bit odd.
[02:50] <duck_> ubuntu and xubuntu using the same kernel + settings?
[02:50] <duck_> as lubuntu?
[02:50] <Unit193> Same kernel, but as it is using a different DE.
[02:51] <duck_> might be also a bios problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/272530
[02:52] <duck_> as in the forum posted it might be a bios bug acpi support
[02:54] <duck_> i dont know about kernel backports ... is this one (3.3) a lack of security?
[02:54] <duck_> is it the kernel for precise?
[02:54] <Unit193> Should be.
[02:54] <duck_> when i do #sensors
[02:55] <duck_> with configurating it before i get only cpu core temp 1 and 2
[02:56] <duck_> i know my machine has more sensors like acceleration sensors
[02:56] <duck_> is this a hint for the wrong kernel and or bios?
[02:57] <duck_> which kernel version will precise be using?
[02:58] <Unit193> !info linux-image-generic precise
[02:58] <Unit193> Could just be that program doesn't search for what you are looking for.
[02:58] <duck_> yeah
[03:03] <duck_> so just to understand, please correct me if im wrong: kernel is same for all u/k/x/lubuntus, only difference is the gui, processor, power, fan controlling is ONLY a kernel-job so on the same machine with different ubuntu distributions should be more or less the same
[03:03] <duck_> ?
[03:04] <duck_> are there jobs running to controll processor out of the kernel?
[03:14] <duck_> will i still get security updates for the kernel when installing an backport?
[03:17] <duck_> is it better to use an older version of lubuntu (like 11.04) or always the newest 12.04? is    newer = less bugs? or   older = less bugs?
[03:18] <duck_> is it possible to know this?
[03:18] <Unit193> Generally the newer one is more updated, and there may be a bit different.
[03:21] <duck_> ok thank you ( i imagine you all busy typing for the release soon :)
[03:22] <Unit193> Heh, I'm testing out something else and listening to pandora while I do it.
[13:42] <Blutkoete> Hello
[13:45] <NQTropic> hi Blutkoete
[14:34] <Yorvyk> gilir: Correcting your English
[14:35] <Yorvyk> gilir:  Don't understand 'Default 32 bits images support more hardware than the Ubuntu image...'
[14:37] <gilir> Yorvyk, we use non-PAE, so it's working on more hardware than Ubuntu, which use PAE by default
[14:37] <gilir> and thanks for the corrections :)
[14:38] <JohnDoe_71Rus> in nautilus there is a badge for shutdown network share. Pcmanf of it isn't present
[14:39] <Yorvyk> gilir: OK,  I'll reword it so it makes more sense.  I f that's OK.
[14:40] <MrChrisDruif> Yorvyk; sure, go right ahead ^_^
[14:53] <duck_> hi
[14:53] <duck_> soon soon soon
[14:53] <MrChrisDruif> duck_; soon what?
[14:53] <duck_> :)  the relaease
[14:54] <duck_> i have a little question
[14:54] <MrChrisDruif> Soon you're brave enough to start using 12.04? ;-)
[14:54] <MrChrisDruif> Shoot
[14:54] <duck_> my machine is hot and loud and consuming lots of power
[14:54] <duck_> :) yes ur right
[14:54] <duck_> i tryed a lot of things
[14:55] <MrChrisDruif> Which version are you currently running? 11.04?
[14:55] <duck_> .
[14:55] <duck_> 11.10
[14:55] <duck_> as far as i know now it might be kernel or a bios problem
[14:55] <MrChrisDruif> (p.s. it's tried* not tryed (only wanting to help))
[14:55] <MrChrisDruif> Ah, right 11.10 is the latest stable
[14:55] <duck_> :) thx
[14:56] <duck_> yes thats it
[14:56] <duck_> so before updating my bios i'd like to give this a try: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/10/467
[14:57] <duck_> its a kernel patch
[14:57] <MrChrisDruif> The 3.0 kernel had a power bug in it afaik. I don't know if it's fixed in 3.2 (which is the kernel in 12.04
[14:58] <duck_> yes i heard about that ...  the thing is that im quite happy with 11.10, not buggy at all here only this heat is bothering me
[14:58] <MrChrisDruif> 12.04 is really stable afaict
[14:59] <duck_> as far as i know there is a fix in precise 3.3 (its emulating a windows to keep cool running with bios bugs)
[15:00] <duck_> ok that sounds nice
[15:01] <duck_> ...  to give the mentiond patch ( <--link) a try how can i do?
[15:01] <duck_> do u have a hint for me?
[15:01]  * MrChrisDruif doesn't alter kernels
[15:01] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry, can't help you there
[15:03] <duck_> do you know if its possible to use a precise kernel in 11.10 artwork?
[15:03] <MrChrisDruif> You don't like the 12.04 artwork? O_O
[15:04] <duck_> ;)
[15:05] <MrChrisDruif> But if you're wondering if you can get a precise kernel in a oneiric install, then I think the simple answer is no
[15:05] <JohnDoe_71Rus> i use ubuntu 10.04 and kernel 3.1.2
[15:05] <sagaci> or just install precise to get the precise kernel you're looking for
[15:05] <sagaci> no pun intended
[15:06] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe JohnDoe_71Rus can help you with installing a different release kernel duck_ ?
[15:07] <duck_> @JohnDoe_71Rus   how did you do ?
[15:07] <duck_> in my updates i cant see kernel versions to install
[15:07] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[15:08] <JohnDoe_71Rus> download then  sudo apt-get install *.deb
[15:09] <duck_> super!
[15:10] <duck_> do you know if there is a known limit? eg   can i go further then 3.1.2?  and do you get security updates for your kernel?
[15:10] <JohnDoe_71Rus> kernel is the kernel
[15:10] <duck_> :)
[15:11] <duck_> wisdom
[15:12] <duck_> tHAnK yOU VERY mUcH !!!!!!
[15:12] <duck_> i'll give this a try
[15:12] <JohnDoe_71Rus> if you need  security updates from 3.1.2 you install 3.1.2
[15:13] <JohnDoe_71Rus> if you need 3.2.1 install 3.2.1
[15:13] <duck_> ?
[15:13] <JohnDoe_71Rus> simple
[15:14] <MrChrisDruif> duck_; your <Shift> key seems wonky
[15:15] <duck_> ok e.g.  security update is an update of the kernel means newer versions have fixes included ...
[15:16] <JohnDoe_71Rus> yes
[15:16] <duck_> i understand   thank you! it's nice to learn and run deep into the shit
[15:18] <duck_> i'll give it a try ...  where can i report my fail / success? what is the common way to let the comunity know? to give a bit back what of what they helped me?
[15:21] <duck_> thAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnks!
[15:29] <duck_> i have one more question:  is it even possible to downgrade the kernel? if i installed 3.2  go back to 3.0 ?? do you know?
[16:34] <Papa-Smurf> Hello
[16:35] <Papa-Smurf> My wireless card is detected as ethernet???
[16:35] <bioterror> papa smurf!
[16:35] <bioterror> Papa-Smurf, sometimes that happens
[16:35] <Papa-Smurf> how can i solve it?
[16:35] <Papa-Smurf> bioterror, yes?
[16:35] <bioterror> is that a problem then?
[16:35] <bioterror> it doesnt work?
[16:35] <Papa-Smurf> they seems to use the same controler
[16:35] <Papa-Smurf> no
[16:35] <Papa-Smurf> it does not work
[16:35] <Papa-Smurf> :(
[16:36] <Papa-Smurf> they wired card works fine but the system does not recognize any wireless card
[16:36] <bioterror> can you pastebin: lspci |grep ethernet
[16:36] <bioterror> sorry
[16:36] <bioterror> |grep Ethernet
[16:36] <Papa-Smurf> and one supposes to be wireless
[16:37] <bioterror> with the capital E
[16:37] <Papa-Smurf> sure
[16:37] <Papa-Smurf> http://pastebin.com/4SahKMjk
[16:39] <bioterror> that's kinda weird as it's shown twice the same
[16:39] <Papa-Smurf> yes :(
[16:39] <Papa-Smurf> both are PCI cards
[16:40] <Papa-Smurf> the wireless card has a led on
[16:41] <Papa-Smurf> is it possible that the wireless card has not been recognized at all?
[16:41] <bioterror> possible
[16:41] <bioterror> you know the card?
[16:41] <bioterror> chipset?
[16:41] <Papa-Smurf> no idea
[16:43] <Papa-Smurf> let me show you a lspci -v
[16:44] <Papa-Smurf> http://pastebin.com/nz5964ey
[16:45] <bioterror> your pastebin can be found from google :D
[16:47] <bioterror> ZyXEL FN312 is a ethernet card
[16:48] <bioterror> seems like they are both recognized as a ethernet cards?
[16:50] <Papa-Smurf> yes
[16:50] <Papa-Smurf> but it isn't
[16:51] <Papa-Smurf> well
[16:51] <Papa-Smurf> maybe ZyXEL is the ethernet
[16:51] <Papa-Smurf> and Realtek the wifi
[16:51] <bioterror> you tell us
[16:51] <bioterror> open case and look ;)
[16:51] <bioterror> and write up the chipsets
[16:51] <bioterror> it helps a lot
[16:54] <Papa-Smurf> yes bioterror it is the only thing i can do :)
[16:54] <Papa-Smurf> well see you back
[17:34] <Blutkoete> Is there a reason that obconf isn't included in Lubuntu 12.04 Beta? Something I should know like "makes your Netbook explode" or "has been replaced by something better"? I want to change the number of workspaces, just want to make sure obconf doesn't break anything if I install it.
[17:36] <bioterror> Blutkoete, reported
[17:36] <Blutkoete> Pardon?
[17:37] <bioterror> it has been reported
[17:37] <bioterror> !bug #967348
[17:37] <Blutkoete> Ah, thank you, I see it now.
[17:37] <Blutkoete> Google first, ask later. Sorry.
[17:38] <bioterror> tap that it affects you too ,)
[17:38] <Blutkoete> I'll do that :)
[17:38] <bioterror> oh well
[17:38] <bioterror> gilir has fixed it already
[17:38] <bioterror> wrote on 2012-04-13: #3
[17:38] <bioterror> It seems to be fixed today, it appears now in the manifest : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.manifest and in the installed system of the daily-live ISO.
[17:38] <Blutkoete> That's good news
[17:41] <Blutkoete> It's great that the Lubuntu team fixes my problems even before I notice them :)
[17:48] <Papa-Smurf> hi
[17:48] <Papa-Smurf> I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Input/output error" when trying ifconfig wlan0 up ¿? does anyone knows a cause?
[18:40] <jerli> hi there...
[19:44] <ramiroec> hi people
[19:44] <ramiroec> just a question
[19:44] <ramiroec> where i can get a newer version than Lubuntu_12.04 beta 2?
[19:45] <ramiroec> something like current or Relace Candidate
[19:47] <ramiroec> any suggestion ;)
[19:47] <bioterror> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/
[19:47] <bioterror> for example
[19:48] <ramiroec> great! thanks
[19:48] <bioterror> those are alternatives then
[19:48] <bioterror> text based installers
[19:49] <ramiroec> perfect
[19:49] <ramiroec> I just want to test, and report bugs
[19:50] <bioterror> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/ these are desktop ones
[19:51] <ramiroec> lets see, the new lubutu will have: abiword_2.9.2+svn20120213
[19:51] <ramiroec> i think its ok
[20:04] <KM0201> libreoffice ftw!
[20:05] <KM0201> i don't like abiword.. it jacks up the formatting on documents i've made in LO or OO.
[20:06] <KM0201> if the documents are made in abiword, they seem to be ok
[20:07] <bioterror> KM0201, mostly I open documents made by ms office ;)
[20:07] <bioterror> and even libreoffice has problems with them
[20:07] <KM0201> bioterror: yeah, i agree.. most of the time when I open Office documents though, they usually are pretty good.
[20:08] <bioterror> formattings other small things gets ruined
[20:10] <KM0201> ya
[20:38] <raphaelle> Hi all, is there a way to set system volume above 100% in lubuntu, as it is possible in Ubuntu ?
[20:39] <KM0201> raphaelle: above 100%?
[20:39] <KM0201> hmm,
[20:40] <bioterror> sorry, but lubuntu does not go to the eleven ;)
[20:40] <bioterror> but you can open alsamixer (right click the volume icon ,)
[20:41] <bioterror> and check if you have pcm and master topped
[20:43] <KM0201> bioterror: i know pulseaudio will let you go to like 150-200%,
[20:44] <KM0201> but i'm not sure how to do that w/ alsa
[20:44] <bioterror> hard to understand how something can go 150-200% :D
[20:44] <bioterror> but maybe it has a logic somewhere
[20:44] <Unit193> Simple, overclip like crazy!!
[20:45] <KM0201> lol
[20:48] <raphaelle> btw it is simple on ubuntu : the sound icon let choose up to 200%, like on VLC player : very handy for poor laptop sound cards !
[20:49] <Unit193> Yeah, but when you do it in VLC, it's clipped and you can tell. (But no other way to do it)
[20:51] <ramiroec> ubuntu have this for volume over 100%:
[20:51] <ramiroec> http://voyhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/Screenshot-Sound-Preferences.png
[20:52] <bioterror> :D
[20:52] <raphaelle> thanks ramiroec : this is exactly what I meant, and what I would like to find in lubunut...
[20:53] <raphaelle> lubuntu :/
[23:13] <anotherchatzilla> hey all tough situation...  i am running an old PPC g5/leopard.  i just installed vpc 7, and i tried to boot the newest lubuntu.  no dice, but the last lts 10.04 boots.  only prob is that after i select install it brings me to a destop with an icon in the upper right to install lubuntu.  i guess i'm supposed to click it.  only problem is that i can't seem to move the mouse inisde this...
[23:13] <anotherchatzilla> ...virtual machine.  the keyboard works and i can bring up the run command with contrl f2...   is there a run command i can use to kick the lubuntu installer open>?
[23:13] <anotherchatzilla> or a way to use the keyboard to move the mouse?
[23:16] <anotherchatzilla> all i need to do apparently is use the keyboard to select the desktop icon "install Lubuntu 10.04" and open it...can't move teh mouse
[23:16] <Unit193> You can hit Ctrl+esc and nav the Application Menu.
[23:17] <Unit193> You can also open a terminal and type ubiquity to start the installer, should be anyway.
[23:18] <anotherchatzilla> hmm..trying
[23:20] <anotherchatzilla> wow looks liek i got the installer open...lets see how this goes


[01:39] <jtholmes> modprobe floppy then you have  /dev/fd0
[01:40] <jtholmes> 8.04 and 8.10  you have to modprobe floppy for  /dev/fdo
[01:40] <jtholmes> probably 9.04 also
[02:10] <cjwatson> nagappan: I believe that's a bug that's been fixed in 9.04
[02:26] <cjwatson> nagappan: oh, sorry, dtchen already gave you the reference
[05:20] <nagappan> cjwatson, thanks :)
[08:39] <davmor2> Morning All
[11:17] <jtholmes> davmor2 wrote calculator test case last eve pls check when you have time
[11:17] <davmor2> jtholmes: will do
[11:19] <davmor2> jtholmes: we dropped the "expected results" section other then that looks good
[11:20] <jtholmes> davmor2, also I noticed that we cant use  texteditor  calculator  etc. for kde testcases unless we add a suffix to file name something this  texteditorub  texteditorkb  ub=ubuntu kb=kubuntu dont know if you folks want like names or not
[11:22] <jtholmes> ok i will edit both kate and speedcrunch expected results sections
[11:24] <jtholmes> davmor2, btw do you happen to live near cjwatson since both of you are in the uk
[11:28] <davmor2> jtholmes: no I think cjwatson is london end
[11:32] <jtholmes> davmor2, one other item is it acceptable to put 'Under construction by blah' in the top of a test case when it is uncomplete and I have to step away for a bit?
[11:32] <jtholmes> blah=my nick
[11:34] <cjwatson> I'm about an hour north of London
[11:35] <jtholmes> interesting, never been to England, like to go someday
[11:35] <davmor2> jtholmes: you can just tag the page as incomplete in the description
[11:36] <jtholmes> davmor2, ah, ok
[11:36] <davmor2> jtholmes: I'm in wolverhampton so there are about 100+ miles between us
[11:37] <jtholmes> davmor2, is your local time about  11:40 right now
[11:37] <jtholmes> am
[11:37] <davmor2> 11:37 but yes
[13:16]  * davmor2 -> lunch
[15:20] <jtholmes> davmor2, are you running the testing meeting today?
[15:20] <davmor2> No
[15:20] <davmor2> that would normally be heno
[15:21] <jtholmes> i didnt see him on so i wondered
[15:21] <davmor2> jtholmes: he isn't on irc that much now busy man
[15:22] <jtholmes> yes
[19:04] <davmor2> fader_: I'll talk to you tomorrow about the translations thing when I got some idea down on the wiki
[19:04] <davmor2> right I'm off
[19:04] <fader_> davmor2: Rock on, thanks