[02:52] <neuro_> altho most webby mysql things like talking to localhost so enabling networking need not be a prerequisite for usefulness
[02:53] <theine> Madpilot: has it?
[02:53] <neuro_> jshriver: http://www.google.com/search?q=mysql+change+root+password
[02:53] <harry> who knows how to mount harddrive from windows XP. i think its an NTFS.. o coudlnt open the harddrive in ubuntu
[02:53] <neuro_> s'easy
[02:53] <rendo> OMG SUCCESS
[02:53] <jshriver> well I'm using mysql just for some homebrew cod running locally :)
[02:53] <noodz> theine: im trying to assert that when people are innundated with things they don't need, they have a harder time  figuring out how to do what they need to... and also, more options, such as the powerful commands in vi, lead to better chances of screw-ups, i.e. accidently exiting out of "input" mode partway through typing, etc
[02:53] <rendo> Okay.
[02:53] <Madpilot> theine, sort of - check the URL I just gave to dddmt
[02:53] <Warbo> eric__: OK, well never mind. (if you run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and go down to the line with nerim.net in it and put a "#" at the beginning of that line, then press ctrl-x, y then enter to save it you will have done the same thing)
[02:53] <theine> Madpilot: ah, ok
[02:53] <rendo> Has anyone ever ran into issues with LiveCD not working for Nvidia based graphic cards?
[02:53] <gigaclon> Madpilot, I did with synaptic just yesterday
[02:53] <gigaclon> its still there
[02:53] <jshriver> Does ubuntu include the NVidia binaries or do I have to intsall that manuall from the .bin file
[02:54] <neuro_> nv drivers (free) are included by default
[02:54] <rendo> jshriver: They should, nvidia is supported well in the linux community.
[02:54] <ic56> harry: point your browser to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Page down to "Instructions", and read till the next blank line.  Follow the instructions to save and run the file.  It will setup your /etc/fstab and mountpoints in /media so you can see your NTFS filesystems in Places> Computer.
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> noobz: You have multiple levels of undo with vim so thats not much of a problem (just use u in command mode)
[02:54] <neuro_> nvidia (non-free) are in universe or multiverse
[02:54] <eric__> warbo: like i said i dont know how to do this stuff. That sway too complicated. The warning isnt thta bad...thanks for all of your help though
[02:54] <dddmt> why is this so insanely complicated
[02:54] <jshriver> neuro_, thanks :)
[02:54] <jshriver> bbiab
[02:54] <neuro_> dddmt: it's really not :)
[02:54] <rendo> Has anyone ever ran into issues with LiveCD not working for Nvidia based graphic cards?
[02:54] <Warbo> eric__: OK, np
[02:54] <Mike-X2> but NV default drivers's not optional
[02:55] <neuro_> rendo: no
[02:55] <rendo> Even older models?
[02:55] <xanavim> dddmt: it's geared to make impossible things easy after you take the time to learn it
[02:55] <harry> ic5^: i can see it in the Computer but i can't open it
[02:55] <ic56> harry: The script will ask you if you want to enable NTFS write.  Answer no.  If you already tried unsuccessfully to add your Windows filesystems to /etc/fstab , add a -b flag to the script invocation.  I authored this version, so I can help if anything goes wrong.
[02:55] <rendo> I had to disable the PCI card and use the onboard otherwise the GUI wouldn't load.
[02:55] <eric__> ok see al of you guys later
[02:55] <noodz> h3sp4wn, I'm not saying you can't undo changes you make to the document. but if a user accidently enters split screen mode or something, hes going to be very confused when he tries to edit the file he opened originally
[02:55] <eric__> thanks for everyones help
[02:55] <xanavim> noodz: he's going to be confused until he does :only
[02:56] <inono> Is there an apt-cache tutorial somewherre
[02:56] <neuro_> man apt-cache
[02:56] <ic56> harry: have you already tried to fix it?  You probably did it wrong.  The script will fix it.
[02:56] <inono> i tried man apt-cache and i failed
[02:56] <asdf25> anyone know if gparted can resize ext3 partitions?
[02:56] <neuro_> inono: you failed?
[02:56] <Xgates> what are dummy packs in Ubuntu?
[02:56] <inono> yes
[02:56] <rendo> Bah, I never get an answer I need. :P
[02:56] <neuro_> inono: how?
[02:56] <mjr> asdf25, it can
[02:56] <inono> neuro_, i was trying to figure out if I had a package installed
[02:56] <rendo> It's always me that gets specific hardware problems. :@
[02:56] <asdf25> mjr: cool, thanks
[02:56] <neuro_> inono: try dpkg -l packagename
[02:56] <five_laptop> ugh
[02:56] <inono> neuro_, i did apt-cache --installed showpkg monodevelop-boo
[02:56] <inono> aha, whats the difference between apt-cache and dpg
[02:57] <nickrud> Xgates, essentially they're links to the correct package
[02:57] <dddmt> ok it worked
[02:57] <neuro_> apt frontends onto dpkg
[02:57] <vic> Hello, how can I upgrade 5.10 to dapper drake
[02:57] <dddmt> thanks
[02:57] <Xgates> nickrud: what do you mean?
[02:57] <xanavim> !upgradetodapper
[02:57] <dddmt> for your help
[02:57] <ubotu> xanavim: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:57] <five_laptop> why would i be getting an unknown hostname error in my syslog when i try to mount an nfs volume on a host which is in hosts.allow?
[02:57] <gdb> vic: Put in the CD, boot from it, and when you get to the desktop, double click the "Install" icon.
[02:57] <dddmt> i just needed porn
[02:57] <dddmt> and it was streessing me out
[02:57] <xanavim> !upgrade2dapper
[02:57] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xanavim
[02:57] <xanavim> meh
[02:57] <dddmt> to the point i couldnt think
[02:57] <neuro_> dddmt: pronview
[02:57] <Draconicus> cafuego: *pokepoke*
[02:57] <inono> guess i dont have it instaled...
[02:57] <vic> gdb, is there any way to do it without the cd
[02:57] <Draconicus> Err..
[02:57] <Xgates> nickrud: for instance I'm looking at mplayer in Synaptic, then below it is mplayer-386 dummy
[02:57] <Draconicus> Wrong person.
[02:57] <cafuego> Draconicus: what?
[02:57] <five_laptop> why would i be getting an unknown hostname error in my syslog when i try to mount an nfs volume on a host which is in hosts.allow?
[02:58] <Draconicus> crimsun_: *pokepoke*
[02:58] <Draconicus> cafuego: Sorry. Wrong person.
[02:58] <inono> is there a Boo channel here?
[02:58] <neuro_> boo?
[02:58] <harry> ic56: what file is the instruction is referring to??
[02:58] <cafuego> five_laptop: the host isn't in /etc/hosts?
[02:58] <xanavim> inono: /join #boo
[02:58] <gdb> vic: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all references to "breezy" to "dapper".  Do an "apt-get update" and then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:58] <rendo> Oh well, it works for now I suppose, any issues I get if I convince the mother in law to switch I'll deal with when I get there.
[02:58] <vic> thanks
[02:58] <nickrud> Xgates, for example, mplayer-386 is a dummy package :) good example :) it depends on the real mplayer package: that is, if you install mplayer-386 it will install mplayer which has the actual mplayer
[02:58] <neuro_> vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:58] <dddmt> wtf is pronview
[02:58] <Dial_tone> why are the dang wait times so long before a d/l starts in amule
[02:58] <Mike-X2> LOLOL I just upgraded from 5.10 throu breezy
[02:58] <emptyshell> Hi When I install Ubuntu it says it cannot detect my internet DHCP host. Since I am using a wireless card that requires I enter an ESSID and my WEP key is there  a way to tell the installation this so that it can downloda the new files auto?
[02:58] <neuro_> :%s/breezy/dapper/g
[02:58] <neuro_> :wq
[02:58] <neuro_> sorter
[02:58] <neuro_> sorted
[02:58] <ic56> harry: the file which you will download -- the script itself.
[02:58] <gdb> vic: make sure you use "dist-ugprade" and not "upgrade" or you will be left with an unbootable system.
[02:59] <Xgates> nickrud: ok, well why all the confusion, why not make one mplayer pack?
[02:59] <xanavim> gdb: what?
[02:59] <neuro_> Mike-X2: you just upgraded to breezy from breezy? :)
[02:59] <Xgates> why not make just one I mean .....
[02:59] <gdb> xanavim: From the Upgrade to Dapper documentation I've read, that's the warning given.
[02:59] <Mike-X2> neuro: lol .i..
[02:59] <neuro_> 5.10 == breezy
[02:59] <gdb> Wether or not it's true is up to the reader.
[02:59] <xanavim> gdb: lol, re-read what you typed
[02:59] <Mike-X2> neuro: just kidin
[03:00] <harry> ic56: i dont understand this fully but how am i supposed to download the file you're sayin
[03:00] <gdb> xanavim: What's wrong with it?
[03:00] <xanavim> gdb: you said use ugprade, not upgrade
[03:00] <neuro_> lol
[03:00] <gdb> doh!
[03:00] <ic56> harry: in your browser, go to File> Save as>
[03:00] <Remy> hey guys, I've installed windows onto a partition and lost GRUB, so I'm going to boot of the install CD to restore it... I'm not sure which partition I need to specify though, any suggestions ?
[03:00] <Mike-X2> neuro: i know LOL glitch just a glitch
[03:00] <Xgates> nickrud: I mean what are we saying if I grab mplayer-686, then this grabs a 686 optimized mplayer?
[03:00] <nickrud> Xgates, because in breezy mplayer-386 was a real package. So when someone dist-upgrades to breezy, the upgraded 386 package will automatically pull in the new mplayer
[03:00] <gdb> Ok, use "dist-upgrade" and not "upgrade" ;-)
[03:00] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Remy about grub
[03:00] <neuro_> Mike-X2: no worries, wasn't trying to be arsey :)
[03:01] <gdb> (I frequently switch letters that I type across my left and right hands._
[03:01] <gdb> ), rather
[03:01] <harry> ic56: you mean the whole txt that you showed me i'm gonna save??
[03:01] <lwizardl> hi
[03:01] <nickrud> Xgates, that was true for breezy, but not for dapper. dummy packages are meant to smooth upgrades
[03:01] <neuro_> gdb: you're not alone
[03:01] <ic56> harry: yes
[03:01] <gdb> neuro_: hehe
[03:01] <lwizardl> can i get server help here?
[03:01] <xanavim> gdb: well, I'm lysdexic sometimes
[03:01] <gdb> lol
[03:01] <neuro_> gdb: tho i do it more when i'm twiddled
[03:01] <neuro_> backspace, backspace, backspace
[03:01] <nickrud> Xgates, erm, dist-upgrades to dapper above
[03:01] <Xgates> nickrud: ok so all I need to do is grab mplayer, and "Consider" dummy packs as more of a upgrade thing?
[03:01] <stevekl> Do any of you know how to remove an item from the accessories menu, when that item doesn't show up in alacarte?
[03:01] <Remy> Madpilot - I allready have that information... What I'm not sure about if whch partition to specify for grub to install onto...
[03:01] <neuro_> x-chat should have an "i'm drunk, spell check *everything*" option
[03:01] <ic56> harry: and use the -b option -- sudo bash <scriptname> -b
[03:02] <neuro_> -b?
[03:02] <neuro_> ooh what does that do
[03:02] <nickrud> Xgates, yup.
[03:02] <Xgates> ok
[03:02] <_d4rky> could you please kick d4rky-pl ?
[03:02] <Madpilot> Remy, no idea, I've never actually needed that info - I just know the bot had it :) sorry.
[03:02] <gdb> I'm trying to install Dapper onto a raid1 root disk.  How futile is this effort?  I've created devices md0 through md9 and they're about to finish up syncing.  I figure since the installer will only install to real disk partitions, I can edit /etc/fstab after installation, set the sd devices to md devices, and reboot and it will resync again automagically.
[03:02] <gdb> (Created these devices using the live CD, that is, prior to the installation).
[03:02] <boga> I get the message "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." How do I fix this?
[03:02] <neuro_> sounds evil
[03:02] <Remy> np :)
[03:03] <alexi5> does anyone here know how to fix the slow performance of samba
[03:03] <Xgates> one other thing, now with mplayer, how do we know what codecs it's been compiled with? I mean when I go to grab it, it's just showing libs is all, that it is grabbing, no codecs, xvid, win32codecs, etc....
[03:03] <neuro_> iirc installing stuff onto soft raid is a hasle
[03:03] <neuro_> at least it was with sarge
[03:03] <ic56> neuro_: are you talking to me?
[03:03] <gdb> I'm not sure how to write grub out to the second disk, though.
[03:03] <neuro_> ic56: yeah, at least re: -b :)
[03:03] <crimsun_> Draconicus: I'm very busy atm. Just tell splay to use the appropriate /dev/dsp device
[03:03] <gdb> neuro_: Yes, it's been a bit of a hastle. :-)
[03:03] <Madpilot> _d4rky, if you're registered w/ Freenode, just use ghost to get rid of your old nick
[03:03] <crimsun_> Draconicus: e.g., /dev/dsp2
[03:03] <neuro_> alexi5: depends what you mean by slow performance
[03:03] <neuro_> slow throughput or slow connection?
[03:04] <neuro_> only 4? :)
[03:04] <Xgates> lol
[03:04] <alexi5> it takes a forever to copy a few megs of files
[03:04] <neuro_> the app you want invariably is on the other operating system
[03:04] <alexi5> i never had that problem with breezy
[03:04] <jshriver> I read the Mysql manual setup instructions and tried mysqladmin -u root password "whatever"
[03:04] <ic56> neuro_: harry is having trouble.  I presume he's already messed up his /etc/fstab.  diskmounter -b will make a backup copy of his /etc/fstab and create a new one.  The new one won't contain any of the old NTFS entries.
[03:04] <jshriver> and I get a connection error.. not letting me connect from localhost
[03:04] <neuro_> oh, diskmounter -b, i thought you meant bash -b
[03:04] <_d4rky> d4rky-pl is my phantom, please tell this to op when he'll come
[03:04] <stevekl> Do any of you know how to remove an item from the accessories menu, when that item doesn't show up in alacarte?
[03:04] <alexi5> neuro:slow through put
[03:04] <nickrud> Xgates, wiki.ubuntu.com/Mplayer has a list. the ones that say x86dll need w32codecs
[03:05] <Xgates> nickrud: so how can you tell what support something has been compiled with? Mplayer isn't grabbing any codecs
[03:05] <Xgates> k
[03:05] <ic56> neuro_: you gotta pay attention ;-)
[03:05] <neuro_> alexi5: interesting, i had no similar probs here
[03:05] <khaladan> Hi, I have a bunch of files named blah-%.png where % is a number, and I'd like to list them in numerical order, so that blah-2 comes before blah-10 for example.  how can I do that?
[03:05] <neuro_> ic56: yeah, i shoudl probably stop drinking :>
[03:05] <harry> ic56: why does it said no such file or directory when i typed sudo bash diskmounter???
[03:05] <dibblego> I have installed build-essential and an install script is asking for "the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?" - where is that exactly? /usr/include/linux ?
[03:05] <ic56> harry: what filename did you use when you saved it?
[03:05] <neuro_> harry: path, path path path
[03:06] <neuro_> sudo bash /path/to/diskmounter
[03:06] <harry> ic56: i already cd on the directory on where i placed the file
[03:06] <neuro_> replace /path/to with the obvious :>
[03:06] <neuro_> try sudo bash ./diskmounter
[03:06] <neuro_> -b twiddle foo etc
[03:06] <harry> ic56: diskmounter-latest.txt
[03:06] <Xgates> nickrud: x86dll?
[03:06] <Madpilot> khaladan, Nautilus should do that sort of sorting already - it does for me
[03:06] <Xgates> nickrud: well the wiki says to only install mplayer, hmm
[03:06] <ic56> neuro_: no that's not it.  The filename on the website is diskmounter-latest.txt  harry probably saved it by that filename but tried to invoke it by a different name.
[03:07] <nickrud> Xgates, it also mentions restricted formats
[03:07] <Xgates> gdb: you having grub problems with 2 drives?
[03:07] <neuro_> ic56: /me shuts up then :)
[03:07] <ic56> harry: you must invoke it by the same name as you saved it.  How else will Ubuntu know what you want it to execute?
[03:07] <khaladan> Madpilot, i'd like to do it from the command line
[03:07] <jshriver> or how can you tell ubuntu to revert to the vanilla install parameters of Mysql..
[03:07] <harry> ic56: ok
[03:07] <jshriver> think I locked myself out of the server :(
[03:07] <dibblego> where on earth are the header files for the kernel after installing build-essential?
[03:07] <Madpilot> khaladan, ah - no idea - check the options in ls, there might be something there
[03:07] <neuro_> jshriver: use safe mode
[03:07] <neuro_> search dev.mysql.com for safe mode
[03:07] <Xgates> nickrud: well how the heck did they compile mplayer, I mean there are quite a few codecs for it. You mean there is like no codec support for this thing in Ubuntu?
[03:07] <jshriver> hrm?
[03:07] <dibblego> !build-essential
[03:07] <ubotu> methinks build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[03:08] <boga> Trying to use the sound recorder, I get the message "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." Where are these settings?
[03:08] <harry> ic56: i have to choose no right??
[03:08] <nickrud> Xgates, nearly every one of those media formats have native mplayer support, only the ones that mention x86dll need w32codecs
[03:08] <ic56> harry: no is a good answer for both questions.
[03:08] <nickrud> Xgates, not clear, true
[03:08] <vilefridge> Hey does anyone have time to help me troubleshoot my Nforce4 audio driver?  I've installed the Nforce4 driver package from Nvidia's website but it's still not emitting sound.  I would appreciate any help given ;)
[03:08] <harry> ic56: ok
[03:09] <Xgates> nickrud: I'm not just talking Win32, there are many others, xvid for example as one...
[03:09] <Gullstad> Does ubuntu support two screens?
[03:09] <neuro_> Gullstad: sure does
[03:09] <nickrud> dibblego, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:09] <nickrud> Xgates, read the list, XviDis there
[03:09] <dibblego> nickrud, ah thanks
[03:09] <Xgates> nickrud: how can we tell what it's been compiled with?
[03:09] <harry> ic56: its done thank you very much
[03:09] <Gullstad> neuro_: What programs you need for this support?
[03:09] <dibblego> nickrud, by the way I resolved the screen resolution issue
[03:10] <ic56> harry: so, no problems?  and your filesystem works now?
[03:10] <nickrud> dibblego, how by the way :)
[03:10] <neuro_> Gullstad: none
[03:10] <nickrud> fglrx?
[03:10] <Gullstad> neuro_: Well, I ment two screen whit different pictures
[03:10] <neuro_> Gullstad: you probably want to fiddle with this: http://www.google.com/search?q=dualhead+site%3Awiki.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <harry> ic56: yep. after clicking the harddrive. it opened just fine
[03:10] <neuro_> Gullstad: i know what you meant :0
[03:10] <dibblego> nickrud, I wasn't able to run the highest resolution though - I managed to use a resolution that I want though - just twiddling with xorg.conf
[03:10] <neuro_> dual head is easy to do if you know what you're doing
[03:10] <Gullstad> neuro_: Aint doing that now atleast :P
[03:10] <neuro_> if not, it's an adventure
[03:11] <ic56> harry: excellent.  Seeing as this is the latest beta version of the script.  Wanna give any feedback?  Suggestions for improvemnt?  Things in the instructions that were unclear?
[03:11] <Gullstad> Then I'm on my way to an adventure ;-)
[03:11] <harry> ic56: ok
[03:12] <neuro_> Gullstad: enjoy - the end of the journey is filled with enlightenment (not e17) and glory!
[03:12] <ic56> harry: just /msg me.
[03:12] <harry> ic56: on where..??
[03:12] <Gullstad> neuro_: I got my linksys wireless card working, and my ATI drivers on place. So this should be a pice of shit/cake
[03:12] <nickrud> dibblego, I was looking around the bug list, and I saw some stuff seems relevant, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/40998 and other stuff saying install fglrx
[03:12] <neuro_> Gullstad: hopefully the latter :>
[03:12] <ic56> harry: here -- on IRC.  Send me a private message.  Do you know how?
[03:13] <neuro_> ic56: remember, freenode now requires you to be registered with nickserv to send/receive /msgs
[03:13] <harry> ic56: nope
[03:13] <ic56> neuro_: good point. harry isn't registered.
[03:13] <gdb> Well, cross your fingers.  I just failed all the mirrored plexes so I can install the OS.  When I reboot, I'll edit /etc/fstab, reboot again, and then run my little script that reassembles the mirrors.  I hope this works!
[03:14] <ic56> harry: you aren't registered with freenode's nickserv so you cannot use the /msg function.  So never mind, just say your comment here.
[03:14] <harry> ok
[03:14] <ic56> harry: unless you have a lot to say, in which case you could email me.
[03:15] <neuro_> this is like speed dating
[03:15] <rendo> With two graphics cards, on being onboard, the other being a pci interface, how do I select which one for xorg to display?
[03:15] <harry> ic56: your email please?
[03:15] <ic56> harry<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:15] <neuro_> rendo: by driver, i'd have thought
[03:15] <Kitsune818> Does anyone know how to turn off the alt key moving windows in gnome? I run some aps that require holding in the alt key and clicking and its driving me nuts
[03:15] <rendo> neuro_ How would I do that? :P I'm using a livecd btw
[03:16] <neuro_> rendo: excellent, no idea :)
[03:16] <neuro_> sorry, i'm extra-useless tonight
[03:16] <rendo> Doesn't matter.
[03:16] <nickrud> rendo, I used BusID in my driver definition
[03:16] <rendo> Nickrud And where do I go about setting that?
[03:17] <rendo> neuro_ I don't NEED the PCI card to work, I just want the damn thing to not be so slwo. :P
[03:17] <neuro_> eek
[03:17] <gpm> hey guys. i'm having trouble installing grub (instead of lilo, which was installed by default for some reason). when i run grub-install /dev/hda...it freezes up. what's going on? i can give more details...didn't want to flood.
[03:17] <neuro_> nearly spilled some wine there
[03:17] <neuro_> that could have been disastrous
[03:18] <rendo> I have a feeling it's because the card is an nvdia, older model. :/
[03:18] <neuro_> i feel dirty
[03:18] <krazykit> neuro_: nah, windows update is a good thing.  at least they update it
[03:19] <goudkov> is there a way to flag mail-transport-agent as installed if i want to compile qmail separately?
[03:19] <neuro_> eww, qmail? :)
[03:19] <nickrud> rendo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15840 has a fragment from my xorg.conf, and the relevant lspci stuff for the card.
[03:19] <neuro_> just install exim or postfix and disable it
[03:19] <Peregrino> I have a modem issue, can anyone helpme?!
[03:19] <nickrud> rendo, I did that cuz for some reason I couldn't disable the onboard video in bios
[03:19] <rendo> I can't either. :P
[03:19] <bullrage> Can somebody tell me why all my ndiswrapper settings were lost in the recent kernel update and how I can fix this so I can use my wireless card with the new kernel
[03:19] <||arifaX> what is a good software for making screenshots and then combine them for a video for ubuntu?
[03:19] <rendo> I can disable the PCI card though, which I did
[03:19] <goudkov> neuro_: thanks man. that's really helpful.
[03:19] <||arifaX> should be able to automatically shoot
[03:20] <Healot> Peregrino: dialup modem or DSL modem, indicate the port connector type
[03:20] <neuro_> goudkov: don't take this the wrong way, but are you being serious or facetious? :)
[03:20] <neuro_> i'm drunk, so can't tell
[03:20] <krazykit> ||arifaX: there are some programs that'll make the video for you
[03:20] <Peregrino> DSL modem, SpeedTouch USB
[03:20] <neuro_> my spidey sense isn't tingling
[03:20] <Healot> !eicl
[03:20] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[03:20] <krazykit> ||arifaX: though i don't recall what they are.  lemme look for a minute
[03:20] <neuro_> ooh, the speedtouch
[03:20] <goudkov> neuro_: it depens if you know how to make a virtual package show installed by making a blank package or not.
[03:21] <||arifaX> krazykit, I want to screenshot a routeflight at map24.com and then create a video of it :)
[03:21] <neuro_> goudkov: seriously mate, just install exim and disable ti
[03:21] <eric__> i got autoatix but it asked for a password
[03:21] <neuro_> then use whatever mta you like
[03:21] <eric__> what do i out?
[03:21] <eric__> what do i out?88
[03:21] <nickrud> rendo, if lspci only shows one card, you shouldn't even need to use the busid stuff then
[03:21] <krazykit> ||arifaX: you could run scrot a bunch of times with sleeps in between.
[03:21] <eric__> putt**
[03:21] <neuro_> mmm, scrot
[03:21] <goudkov> neuro_: seriously mate, try to understand that you don't know anything and everything about what other people need.
[03:21] <Peregrino> neuro_: What with the SpeedTouch?
[03:21] <tyce> any ideas on how to get EXABYTE drive working under ubuntu
[03:22] <neuro_> goudkov: seriously mate, try to realise that i'm trying to offer some free assistance to you at twenty past two in the morning
[03:22] <neuro_> what's wrong with disabling the on-board mta and using your own?
[03:22] <neuro_> then at least apt won't hassle you
[03:22] <eric__> how do i use automatix
[03:22] <eric__> i would like to watch dvds
[03:22] <krazykit> ubotu: tell eric__ about automatix
[03:22] <Healot> Peregrino: read more here >> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=629
[03:23] <goudkov> neuro_: an advice would have been an explanation on what i need to achieve, and i would be thankful for that. what you are doing is called being a geek in a classical sence. i used to do that myself, so don't take it  the wrong way.
[03:23] <Healot> speedtouch.sourceforge.net >> the driver site, Peregrino
[03:23] <eric__>  #automatix
[03:23] <eric__> hmm
[03:23] <eric__> how do i switch channels
[03:23] <wastrel> /join #channelname
[03:24] <inc|freaky> hi all. can someone tell me, how to enable frequency scaling on dapper? im using kernel 2.6.15-25-686 and my centrino cpu just keeps running at 800Mhz - that sucks as i have a 2ghz cpu and everything is so slow. :(
[03:24] <dust> is there any way to find out if a WMV file has been  encoded with DRM?
[03:24] <xanavim> eric__: in which client?
[03:24] <an> hey
[03:24] <an> here it's me
[03:24] <neuro_> goudkov: i'll take it whatever way i like, bearing in mind i now have 2 bottles of tasty red wine in me ... you didn't ask about making a virtual package, just how to defeat the generic mta package to use qmail; i offered a solution, you rejected it out of hand with facetiousness, nothing to do with geekness
[03:24] <rendo> nickrud, Thanks anyways.  Too much hassle just for a livecd show for the mother in law.
[03:24] <nickrud> rendo, ar ;)
[03:24] <an> where am I ?
[03:24] <bullrage> Can somebody tell me why all my ndiswrapper settings were lost in the recent kernel update and how I can fix this so I can use my wireless card with the new kernel
[03:24] <rendo> nickrud:  I just need to show her Ubuntu is better than Windows, and I'm sure the nvidia drivers will install with a proper install.
[03:24] <goudkov> nevermind. thanks for being so helpful.
[03:24] <an> how do I change channel ?
[03:24] <an> where is the list of channels ?
[03:24] <xanavim> an: you're in front of your computer
[03:25] <xanavim> an: /list
[03:25] <an> haha
[03:25] <Peregrino> Healot: My prob is not finding the firmware, that's on the ubuntu help. I don't know how to get it work on a Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger LiveCD
[03:25] <nickrud> goudkov, you might find the package equivs useful
[03:25] <an> what makes you think that ?
[03:25] <goudkov> nickrud: thanks what i was looking for thanks. just forgot the name,
[03:25] <an> ok
[03:25] <neuro_> goudkov: i clearly wasn't helpful; please be truthful in future.
[03:25] <an> a looot of channels
[03:25] <an> thanks
[03:25] <nickrud> goudkov, with 17,000 packages, who'd a thunk it ;)
[03:25] <Healot> Peregrino: you want to configure it in a Live environment?
[03:25] <alexcamilo> Hello. I am having a problem using ubuntu 6.06 with a  netgear wg511v2 wireless card using the Marvell chipset. I had it working well under suse 10.1 using ndiswrapper and the driver off of the disk. But when i used apt-get to install ndiswrapper in ubuntu and installed the driver like i did before the card doesnt work. there is no wlan0 or eth1. even after i restarted it was like the card didnt exist. i ran ndiswrapper -l and it says
[03:26] <joel_> hey all, proxy test: where do you guys think I'm from?
[03:26] <Peregrino> Healot: Yes. I can't install Ubuntu in this PC for family Issues xD
[03:26] <goudkov> nickrud: hehe, yeah. i remember there was the "debian" way of screwing with the apt system, but couldn't remember how it's done. anyway, thanks.\
[03:26] <ube> hey guys
[03:26] <tyce> Help geting EXABYTE working
[03:26] <neuro_> joel_: looks like a comcast connection from here
[03:26] <neuro_> joel_: somewhere in darkest minnesota
[03:26] <xanavim> joel_: minnesota?
[03:27] <joel_> ok, thx guys
[03:27] <krazykit> joel_: the internet.
[03:27] <rendo> Heh.
[03:27] <joel_> hehe
[03:27] <rendo> Earth :P
[03:27] <neuro_> ze interweb
[03:27] <wastrel> does /join #channelname   not work in some irc clients?
[03:27] <xanavim> joel_: dontchaknow
[03:27] <alexcamilo> fire ze missiles
[03:27] <wastrel> neuro_:  spelled intarweb
[03:27] <krazykit> wastrel: never seen one that it doesn't
[03:27] <neuro_> wastrel: doh
[03:27] <Healot> Peregrino: install the prepackaged driver then
[03:27] <xanavim> wastrel: some irc clients are utterly broken pieces of garbage, so...
[03:28] <Healot> Peregrino: http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/index.php?/download.en.html
[03:28] <neuro_> wastrel: i thought the internet was just myspace.com now? :)
[03:28] <wastrel> heh
[03:28] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem >> even
[03:28] <neuro_> Peregrino: this may - *may* - be of use: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/
[03:28] <boga> can someone tell me where multimedia settings are in Dapper? I cannot use my mic though it works. The sound recorder program says its settings are invalid!
[03:28] <rayston> anyone here know VNC?
[03:28] <neuro_> istr having fun getting a black speedtouch 330 up and running
[03:29] <neuro_> that was on hoary tho
[03:29] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo >> Peregrino
[03:29] <NoUse> rayston I use it
[03:29] <Healot> damn
[03:29] <Peregrino> Healot: Yes, but the installation instructions tellme to reboot my system. And you know, when I reboot Live Ubuntu, I loose everything  I make
[03:29] <neuro_> Healot: schweet
[03:29] <anfangs> ANYONE know the command to bring up the ATI configuration GUI?
[03:30] <rayston> is it possible to use VNCin such a way that I could log into my home computer from anywhere with just a browser? no need for a client?
[03:30] <amachu> #join ubuntu-in
[03:30] <nickrud> anfangs, aticonfig ?
[03:30] <NoUse> rayston I believe so
[03:30] <neuro_> rayston: sure, vnc has a java client mode
[03:30] <||arifaX> krazykit, scrot does it - thanks
[03:30] <Healot> Peregrino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo << no reboot
[03:30] <neuro_> if you set vnc to listen on port 0, http://hostname:5800/ will connect you
[03:31] <anfangs> nickrud: nope, i need the GUI... ive accessed it b4 on gnome control panel, i think
[03:31] <neuro_> port 12, http://hostname:5812/
[03:31] <neuro_> and so on
[03:31] <Healot> hoho... reboot
[03:31] <neuro_> you may want to lock it down via vpn or ssh tunnels first tho
[03:31] <neuro_> Healot: good luck :)
[03:31] <neuro_> oh, you're not rebooting
[03:31] <Peregrino> Healot: I see, there says to plug and unplug the modem, That's a very clever thing to do xD
[03:31] <rayston> but it is possible?
[03:32] <alexcamilo> so, anyone here have any experience with ndiswrapper in ubuntu 6.06?
[03:32] <Healot> Peregrino: yes, require no reboot on that wikiwiki
[03:32] <neuro_> rayston: i just explained that it is, yes
[03:32] <amachu> hi, I have problems with SCIM + Open office
[03:32] <rayston> kay, thats cool, any advice on a good VNCserver?
[03:32] <amachu> can any one guide
[03:32] <amachu> ??
[03:32] <wastrel> what's scim?
[03:32] <Peregrino> Healot: Thanks, I'll try that after dinner ^^
[03:32] <NoUse> alexcamilo I've used it once
[03:33] <amachu> scim is for Muliti Linguism
[03:33] <neuro_> Smart Common Input Method
[03:33] <kwtm> How do I turn off auto-spellchecking in KMail, please?
[03:33] <eric__> can someone help me pklay dvds
[03:33] <Healot> SKIM on Kubuntu
[03:33] <athayde> hid3, I can't find my musics that I've downloaded using amule
[03:33] <amachu> neuro: can u guide?
[03:33] <NoUse> !dvd
[03:33] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:33] <athayde> ops... hi
[03:33] <neuro_> amachu: no, i just googled scim :>
[03:33] <alexcamilo> NoUse: i'm having trouble to get ubunto to see my card. i installed the deiver and it says the card is present and the driver is installed when i rin ndiswrapper -l
[03:33] <inc|freaky> hi all. can someone tell me, how to enable frequency scaling on dapper? im using kernel 2.6.15-25-686 and my centrino cpu just keeps running at 800Mhz - that sucks as i have a 2ghz cpu and everything is so slow. :(
[03:33] <NoUse> alexcamilo what does ifconfig -a output?
[03:33] <Remy> hey guys, I'm trying to restore GRUB after loading windows, and I have a question.
[03:33] <athayde> that musics will stay at /home/user/.amule/incoming
[03:34] <neuro_> amachu: looks like an open bug tho: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/36589
[03:34] <athayde> I have just installed ubuntu in my computer, and I liked, but I can't find my musics
[03:34] <Remy> I'm using an older Ubuntu install CD, to run the information on the ubuntu wiki page...  What I want to know if, how do I know which is my ubuntu root install hda?
[03:34] <rayston> wow, lotta updates today
[03:35] <Remy> in the gnome partition manager, hda2 is of type ext3, and it's the right size to be my main partition for ubuntu, is this the one ?
[03:35] <neuro_> rayston: yeah, scary eh? :)
[03:35] <Remy> the other partitions are type extended and swap...
[03:35] <Remy> so should it be the ext3 ?
[03:35] <NoUse> Remy probably yes
[03:35] <eric__> how do i plays dvds
[03:35] <eric__> i have realplayerdoesnt work
[03:35] <rayston> yah, im a little gunshy, the GLXupdates yesterday broke my X for a bit
[03:35] <eric__> have automatix
[03:35] <NoUse> Remy you root parition would be the largest one as well
[03:35] <eric__> dont know how to use it
[03:35] <Remy> NoUse: the largest of my linux partitions ?
[03:36] <alexcamilo> had to reeinstall ubuntu. installer is at 90% i'l know in bout 3-4 min
[03:36] <NoUse> !tell eric about restricted
[03:36] <Madpilot> eric__, best advice about automatix is 'don't use it'
[03:36] <Healot> eric__: install libxine-extracodecs and libdvdcss2
[03:36] <nickrud> anfangs, amachu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InputMethods/SCIM/CJK_Chinese_Japanese_Korean_Input_Method_configuration_using_SCIM_in_Ubuntu_6%2e06_Dapper_Drake has some info about openoffice
[03:36] <Remy> NoUse: MY windows and linux partitions are the same size...
[03:36] <NoUse> !tell eric__ about restricted
[03:36] <rayston> or...it mighta been the kernel image updates? or both, hard to tell
[03:36] <Consty> man, after adding a 512mb stick of ram in my laptop going from 256 to 768mb, so much faster :)
[03:36] <NoUse> Remy well the largest linux parition yes
[03:36] <anfangs> nickrud: wrong person?
[03:36] <Mike-X2> How do i get ld in my way, and dos it have to be done before or after shutdown of X
[03:36] <Remy> NoUse: ok, thanks :) here goes nothing...
[03:36] <nickrud> anfangs, yup, amachu see my post just above
[03:37] <neuro_> Consty: more ram rocks, eh? :)
[03:38] <athayde> hello, there is somebody to help me with something ?
[03:38] <amachu> nickrud: thank u
[03:38] <nickrud> amachu, yw
[03:38] <wastrel> athayde:  we don't know until you ask the question :]
[03:38] <eric__> healot: how?
[03:39] <Cntryboy> Guys I just now got unreal tournament installed and it works. The thing is is when I go to 1024x768 resolution it drops the game and leaves me with a distorted screen
[03:39] <Mike-X2> How do i get ld in my way, and dos it have to be done before or after shutdown of X
[03:39] <athayde> wastrel, but I already ask about it. Well, withou P.C., I can't find my musics that I already download using amule
[03:39] <krazykit> Mike-X2: install ld, and it should be in your path
[03:40] <lwizardl> how do i install postfix using apt
[03:40] <yoink> question...how do i use privoxy/tor with irc without getting banned from here, or can i?
[03:40] <wastrel> athayde:  sorry, scrolls fast in here.  - in the amule configuration does it specify the download directory?
[03:40] <wastrel> athayde:  i don't use amule...
[03:40] <Mike-X2> oooh ok in synapt.???
[03:40] <Cin> wastrel, it sure does.
[03:40] <krazykit> Mike-X2: yep
[03:40] <Healot> yoink: my experience, Freenode is ok with proxy/onion router
[03:40] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[03:40] <Mike-X2> thx m8
[03:40] <Cntryboy> Guys I just now got unreal tournament installed and it works. The thing is is when I go to 1024x768 resolution it drops the game and leaves me with a distorted screen
[03:40] <elicia> i dont fit in here
[03:40] <krazykit> Mike-X2: and for future reference, it's in your path, not your way ;-)
[03:41] <Cntryboy> why won't my resolution work
[03:41] <Cin> wastrel, Preferences > Directories.
[03:41] <Cntryboy> guys and gals
[03:41] <athayde> wastrel, the software says that any music will be at incoming dir
[03:41] <eric> why did ubotu msg me?
[03:41] <Cntryboy> elicia :)
[03:41] <athayde> but I can't find... that is very strange
[03:41] <krazykit> eric: because someone told it to
[03:41] <eric> oh
[03:41] <Madpilot> athayde, what's the incoming directory supposed to be?
[03:41] <eric> i didnt see that i was in any channels with it and was just curious why
[03:41] <Cin> Madpilot, "My Shared Folder", for completed downloads.
[03:42] <Cntryboy> so does anyone know why I can't get unreal tournament to keep 102x768 resolution?
[03:42] <krazykit> eric: a lot of common questions can be answered by ubotu, and we'll just have ubotu message you for simplicity's sake
[03:42] <wastrel> athayde:  what does it say in Preferences > Directories for your download directory?
[03:42] <Madpilot> Cin, that sounds more like a Windows folder than a Linux thing
[03:42] <xsquared> hi
[03:42] <eric__> how do i uninstall automatix
[03:42] <NoUse> Cntryboy check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if its gives any clues
[03:42] <athayde> wastrel,  /home/user/.amule/incoming
[03:42] <eric> oh maybe it was for eric__
[03:42] <athayde> but doesn't show the dir
[03:42] <Cin> Madpilot, yah, I'm telling you what "Incoming Directory's" equivilant is.
[03:42] <krazykit> eric: hahaha, probably.
[03:42] <Cntryboy> nouse like what kind of clues
[03:42] <Gullstad> Were can I get the .wav codec?
[03:42] <NoUse> eric sorry yeah that was my fault
[03:43] <eric> i run ubuntu so im like wow does the server read my mind? :D
[03:43] <wastrel> athayde:  yes that's because .amule is a hidden directory.  there should be an option in your file browser to show those
[03:43] <Cin> Cntryboy, dude. Can you direct me to the documentation to how you got UT working on Linux?
[03:43] <yoink> Healot, I got banned from the #ubuntu channel after i enabled it...not sure how to get around that...unbanned as soon as i turned it off
[03:43] <Gullstad> Sorry, I ment the .wmv
[03:43] <xsquared> in cedega, i try run battlefield2, the mouse is stuck at the select spawn point screen
[03:43] <wastrel> athayde:  or maybe you can type that path directly into the location bar
[03:43] <Madpilot> athayde, see the dot in front of amule? (.amule) - that means it's a hidden directory
[03:43] <Dial_tone> I don't understand amule, the servers show ping times that are like 40-50 MINUTES. whats the deal with that/
[03:43] <Cntryboy> sure cin
[03:43] <krazykit> xsquared: you really ought to ask that at the cedega forums or irc, if they have one
[03:43] <xsquared> i have found many posts about this happening but none of them provide a fix
[03:43] <Cin> Cntryboy, nice one mate
[03:43] <Cntryboy> I searched all day for it
[03:43] <Cntryboy> :)
[03:43] <athayde> Madpilot, well, what should I do about it?
[03:44] <xsquared> krazykit, it only happens in ubuntu dapper
[03:44] <eric__> how do i uninstall automatix
[03:44] <Mike-X2> ld? is that the util. ldap???
[03:44] <Madpilot> athayde, does amule have an option to change where it directs the downloads/
[03:44] <Cntryboy> http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=51
[03:44] <Cin> Madpilot, yes it does!
[03:44] <Cntryboy> cin go here http://liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=51
[03:44] <Cin> Madpilot, Preferences > Directories.
[03:44] <athayde> Madpilot, let me see
[03:44] <Madpilot> athayde, see what Cin has just typed
[03:45] <krazykit> Mike-X2: nope.
[03:45] <Cin> Cntryboy, awesome, thanks mate.
[03:45] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: ld? is that the util. ldap???
[03:45] <nickrud> eric__, automatix is a one way trip
[03:45] <Cntryboy> np
[03:45] <Mike-X2> ooh ok sry
[03:45] <athayde> Cin, I've already did that and doesn't have an answer
[03:45] <krazykit> Mike-X2: i don't think so./
[03:45] <athayde> none dir show up
[03:45] <Cin> athayde, doesn't have an answer?
[03:45] <eric__> nickrud is it bad?
[03:45] <Cntryboy> cin after u dl that, then go on left down to faq and it tells u how to install it
[03:45] <nickrud> !automatix
[03:46] <Cin> Cntryboy, aye fantastic.
[03:46] <krazykit> Mike-X2: lemme find what package it's in
[03:46] <nickrud> arg, ubotu
[03:46] <eric__> !automatx
[03:46] <ubotu> eric__: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:46] <nickrud> !tell eric about automatix
[03:46] <athayde> Cin, yes... the dir didn't show up
[03:46] <nickrud> erm, eric sorry
[03:46] <Mike-X2> krazykit: how and where
[03:46] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know how to make UT keep my 1024x768 resolution when I try to choose it?
[03:46] <eric__> nickrud is it bad to have?
[03:47] <Cin> athayde, doesn't yours look like this? http://rtfs.ath.cx/amulescreenshot.jpg
[03:47] <krazykit> Mike-X2: install binutils
[03:47] <nickrud> eric__, you just got a pm with a firm opinion from ubotu
[03:47] <eric__> nickrud some one in here told me to get it
[03:47] <Cin> Cntryboy, I know there's a configuration file in the UT directory that can set it as default... (I don't have it on my computer -- yet), but worth having a look?
[03:47] <eric__> :(
[03:47] <L-----D> quick question: can i install the amd64 version on intel 64bit box
[03:47] <athayde> Cin, yes
[03:48] <nickrud> L-----D, yes
[03:48] <Cin> athayde, hm, so what's the problem?
[03:48] <L-----D> nickrud: thanks mate
[03:48] <Cin> athayde, 'Incoming Directory'
[03:48] <Cntryboy> okay thanks
[03:48] <Healot> L-----D: if it's the EMT64 P4, YES, if you're thinking of Itanium, NO
[03:48] <eric__> so it is impossible ot get rid of automatix?
[03:48] <Cntryboy> let me try
[03:48] <eric__> that is dumb
[03:48] <Mike-X2> krazykit: ive tryed lookin on them but dont know wich one??
[03:48] <eric__> it says it will crash my system
[03:48] <nickrud> learn something new, every day
[03:48] <Cin> Cntryboy, aye it has stuff about the refresh rate, so I can only expect it has resolution settings.
[03:49] <eric> =)
[03:49] <eric__> should i reinstall my OS
[03:49] <krazykit> Mike-X2: just install "binutils"
[03:49] <krazykit> Mike-X2: "binutils" contains ld
[03:49] <Cin> eric__, why would you reinstall the OS, what's up?
[03:49] <yoink> !test
[03:49] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:49] <wastrel> jim jam
[03:49] <eric__>  cin someone told me to get automatix and i did
[03:49] <athayde> Cin, yes... I see the dir... but when I click... none file open up
[03:49] <Cntryboy> it has resolution settings, but when I choose the reso I want it closes the game and has my screen big and oblonged. I have to hit ctrl+alt+backspace to get normal screen
[03:49] <eric__> cin and someone else told me it will crash my system and u cant get rid of it
[03:49] <athayde> I don't know what to do at this moment
[03:50] <Mike-X2> krazykit: i know but dont know wich
[03:50] <athayde> I'm new using linux, just for everybody knows
[03:50] <baconbacon> !automatix
[03:50] <krazykit> Mike-X2: there is no "which".  there's a package called binutils.  just plain binutils.  install it.
[03:50] <devnull> does anyone know about ftp support in eclpse ?
[03:50] <Mike-X2> krazykit: theres some binutils
[03:50] <devnull> eclipse
[03:50] <Cin> athayde, ohh. So the files have downloaded, but they're not in your "Incoming Directory" yet?
[03:50] <Mike-X2> krazykit: rgr
[03:50] <baconbacon> eric__: easyubuntu may be a better solution
[03:50] <krazykit> Mike-X2: install the one called "binutils".  nothing else.
[03:51] <nickrud> eric__, may break, if you used automatix right after the install, you probably will survive
[03:51] <athayde> Cin, yes
[03:51] <eric__> baconbacon whats that
[03:51] <Cin> athayde, that is odd. They are usually copied from your "Temporary Directory" to the "Incoming", have you checked the temporary?
[03:51] <baconbacon> eric__: especially, dont uninstall stuff automatix installed
[03:51] <Cin> athayde: ~/.aMule/Temp
[03:51] <eric__> baconbacon dont uninstall stuff?
[03:51] <kbrooks> baconbacon: you CAN
[03:52] <KyoLptp`> is there a way to enable mouse trails?
[03:52] <kbrooks> baconbacon: you're allowed to
[03:52] <sam1001> is ubuntu a debian dist?
[03:52] <baconbacon> sure you can
[03:52] <eric__> nickrud i tried to use it
[03:52] <wastrel> sam1001:  it's debian based but has its own package repositories
[03:52] <glennus> sam1001: aye, ubuntu is debian-based.
[03:52] <krazykit> sam1001: it's based on debian sid
[03:52] <kbrooks> baconbacon: automatix doesnt hardwire itself into ubuntu
[03:52] <athayde> Cin, wait a second
[03:52] <eric__> i donteven know how to use automatix
[03:52] <nickrud> eric__, listen to kbrooks on this I think
[03:52] <Cin> Cntryboy, any luck?
[03:52] <eric__> kbrooks can i delete it?
[03:53] <kbrooks> baconbacon: all it does is overwrite the sources.list. it does put it back on request
[03:53] <sam1001> i use mepis, has anyone heard of this one
[03:53] <athayde> I resolve the situation right now
[03:53] <athayde> finally
[03:53] <Cin> automatix... what's wrong with Synaptic?
[03:53] <krazykit> sam1001: i've heard of it.
[03:53] <Cin> athayde, what was the problem?
[03:53] <NoUse> eric__ http://www.getautomatix.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6&Itemid=24#3
[03:53] <kbrooks> baconbacon: well, not "on request", but when it must
[03:53] <baconbacon> kbrooks: i know what automatix does
[03:53] <athayde> ~/.aMule/icoming directory
[03:53] <kbrooks> baconbacon: after it exits
[03:53] <athayde> that's right?
[03:53] <yoink> can a mod tell me why #ubuntu is banning tor users?
[03:53] <Cin> athayde, aye.
[03:54] <Cntryboy> shit how can I get my screen resolution normal again with out alt+ctrl+backspace
[03:54] <baconbacon> im not here for questions but for helping others
[03:54] <benkong2> help???? my grand children just showed up and I need to make a quick game only user. Can someone help me?
[03:54] <Cntryboy> my reso is jacked up
[03:54] <kbrooks> yoink: it isnt
[03:54] <kbrooks> yoink: not actively
[03:54] <yoink> kbrooks, ok, must be a prob on my end i guess...
[03:54] <Cntryboy> anyone
[03:54] <sam1001> Krazykit, have you had problems with writing data to a flash drive
[03:54] <Cntryboy> I cant get around my pc like this
[03:54] <athayde> nou, that's wrong, Cin
[03:54] <Cntryboy> I can't see what im typing
[03:54] <athayde> I can't find the dir
[03:54] <lwizardl> whats the catch to install postfix
[03:54] <athayde> what will be the command or syntax ?
[03:54] <NoUse> Cntryboy Ctrl+Alt+Backspace will restart X
[03:54] <sam1001> krazykit, I have changed the permissions to all, but still couldn't write to disk
[03:54] <kbrooks> yoink: you're banned, but it wasnt your fault
[03:54] <krazykit> sam1001: not since i used a certain patchset with 2.6.13.  so not recently
[03:54] <Cntryboy> how do I get my resolution fixed to my default settings with out ctrl+alt+backspace?
[03:55] <Madpilot> yoink, there's a longstanding ban on tor here because all it seems to get used for is spam bots
[03:55] <Cin> athayde, cd ~/.aMule
[03:55] <Healot> NoUse: so does the power button heh
[03:55] <Cin> athayde, do a: ls
[03:55] <NoUse> benkong2 just create a new user, don't make them a memeber of the admin group and they won't be able to install anything
[03:55] <wastrel> what's tor
[03:55] <Cntryboy> I don't want to lose my apps and pages im reading
[03:55] <krazykit> sam1001: maybe it's mounted read-only, or maybe it's ntfs.
[03:55] <Cin> Cntryboy, you on GNOME?
[03:55] <NoUse> Healot well this does it without taking down your entire system which is handy
[03:55] <Cntryboy> yes
[03:55] <sam1001> crazykit, i think it's formated as FAT
[03:55] <Cin> Cntryboy, there's a setting in preferences for resolution...
[03:56] <Cntryboy> I tried that it doesn't change it back
[03:56] <Cntryboy> and says its on what its supposed to be
[03:56] <sam1001> Is that why it can't write data to the flash drive
[03:56] <Cntryboy> but obviously its not
[03:56] <Cntryboy> lol
[03:56] <Cin> Ohh, haha. It doesn't know. Hm.
[03:56] <benkong2> NoUse: ok I did that thanks guess I gotta install all the games I can find. I guess they need to be a member of the audio group also to hear sounds correct?
[03:56] <krazykit> sam1001: well, it's mounted, right?  if you type "mount" at the command line, it'll tell you the mount options.  see if it isn't rw.
[03:56] <Cin> Cntryboy, change it to somethin else, then change it back to what you want?
[03:56] <Cntryboy> kk
[03:56] <NoUse> benkong2 yeah, run 'groups' on your user account and copy that except for admin
[03:57] <Cntryboy> thx mate
[03:57] <NoUse> benkong2 synaptic has a section of games
[03:57] <yoink> kbrooks, Madpilot, ok...any ideas how i can anonymize in here?
[03:57] <Cin> Cntryboy, :D
[03:57] <lwizardl> i'm trying to do an apt-get install postfix but it keeps failing "Package postfix-tls is a virtual package provided by: postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1 You should explicitly select one to install" then i've tried "apt-get install 'postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1' " and still fails E: Couldn't find package postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1
[03:57] <sam1001> krazykit, I right clicked the mounted disk icon and changed the permission but still the same
[03:57] <Cntryboy> that damn ut game when I try to get those resolution settings i want it closes the game and does that
[03:57] <Cin> athayde, what is the directory in "Incoming Directory" on aMule's preferences?
[03:57] <benkong2> NoUse: thanks
[03:57] <Cntryboy> anyclue whats wrong?
[03:57] <Madpilot> yoink, no idea - Freenode will give you a hostmask anytime, if you don't want your IP shown
[03:57] <NoUse> benkong2 np
[03:57] <athayde> Cin, /home/user/.aMule/Temp
[03:57] <spikeb> Cin: probably where data you are downloading goes until the download is finished
[03:57] <Cin> athayde, what is in that directory?
[03:57] <sam1001> krazykit, I was using mepis linux 2004
[03:58] <Cntryboy> is amule a sharing program like emule?
[03:58] <eric__> nickrud i removed it
[03:58] <Cntryboy> for windows?
[03:58] <yoink> Madpilot, im kinda an irc newb, how do i get this hostmask?
[03:58] <Cin> Cntryboy, never had any trouble of that sort.
[03:58] <krazykit> sam1001: then perhaps go ask a mepis channel.
[03:58] <eric__> nickrud u said i couldnt
[03:58] <Cin> Cntryboy, aye, it's eMule for Linux.
[03:58] <Cntryboy> cool where can I download it at?
[03:58] <Madpilot> yoink, join #freenode & ask there
[03:58] <Cin> Cntryboy, it's on Synaptic.
[03:58] <yoink> Madpilot, k, thanks
[03:58] <Cin> Cntryboy, or sudo apt-get install amule
[03:58] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install amule?
[03:58] <Cin> ;D
[03:58] <Cntryboy> yup okay thx
[03:58] <nickrud> eric__, I didn't say not to remove it, I said it was a one way trip. Last time I looked, it was.
[03:59] <athayde> Cin, when I click for open the incoming directory... nothing happen'd
[03:59] <eric__> nouse thanks i think that got rid of it
[03:59] <sam1001> krazykit, -
[03:59] <sam1001> mepis That channel doesn't exist
[03:59] <sam1001> -
[03:59] <Cntryboy> its downloading :)
[03:59] <eric__> nickrud i know what u meant i mean, u just scared me cuz i though ti had it forevor
[03:59] <adamant1988> hi all
[03:59] <adamant1988> :)
[03:59] <laozi> Why does Ubuntu freeze 50% of the time right before the splash login screen?
[03:59] <krazykit> sam1001: i only said i'd heard of it, not used it.  maybe if you went to the site, they'd have forums or a channel you could see
[03:59] <sam1001> guess it's too unpopular to be listed here
[03:59] <Cntryboy> how big is the total file?
[03:59] <krazykit> sam1001: or it might not be on freenode.
[03:59] <eric__> nouse thanks i think its gone now
[04:00] <NoUse> eric__ cool
[04:00] <Cin> Cntryboy, if you click Details it should say the size.
[04:00] <nickrud> eric__, sorry, I get a little over verbal sometimes. Glad things are well ;)
[04:00] <Cin> athayde, are you using the File Browser? And have you checked both directories (Incoming and Temporary)?
[04:00] <sam1001> krazykit, do you do compile your programs on ubuntu
[04:00] <NoUse> laozi do you have an nvidia card?
[04:00] <krazykit> sam1001: on occasion i do.
[04:00] <eric__> nickrud no problem i appreciate all the jhelp i get caus ei have no clue what i am doing
[04:01] <morphix> how can i stop xfce4-panel from loading at startup?
[04:01] <athayde> Cin, well... I've already say to you... I found it, but I can open it
[04:01] <Cntryboy> i don't see a anything in the terminal where it says details
[04:01] <athayde> the incoming directory
[04:01] <Cin> Cntryboy, must be installing if it's a terminal.
[04:01] <laozi> NoUse, Not sure, its an IBM ThinkPad T21, I can go find the specs...
[04:01] <krazykit> sam1001: the site says the channel is #mepis
[04:01] <j-linux> Finally got Dapper working today.  Can't seem to get the ATI drivers to work.  I never could get them working in Breezy -- the online instructions would never work.  EasyUbuntu wouldn't work either.  I tried Easy Ubuntu twice today and didn't really get any messages from EasyUbuntu.  Am still getting about 3 frames per second.
[04:01] <Cin> Cntryboy, ohh, thought you were using Synaptic. Hehe.
[04:02] <Cntryboy> cin, no details button in terminal wheres its downloading
[04:02] <Cntryboy> yes from term
[04:02] <sam1001> krazykit, yea, I didn't at the # sign
[04:02] <Cin> Cntryboy, it ain't big. You on broadband?
[04:02] <NoUse> laozi I gotta go, but search the forums are ask here about disabling ACPI
[04:02] <krazykit> sam1001: all channels are preceded by an #
[04:02] <Cin> athayde, are you at the directory, or can't you get to it?
[04:02] <NoUse> laozi that might help
[04:02] <Cntryboy> no 2.1KB dialup lol
[04:03] <Cin> Cntryboy, oh man. :P
[04:03] <laozi> okay thanks
[04:03] <wastrel> dapper eh
[04:03] <wastrel> i've heard of it
[04:03] <nickrud> I think I see my first sparc user
[04:03] <Cin> nickrud, sparc user?
[04:03] <Cin> Cntryboy, it's 3Mb.
[04:03] <yoink> Madpilot, i tried asking in #freenode, but I can't talk
[04:03] <Cntryboy> yah thats how I feel also :(
[04:04] <krazykit> Cin: sun ultra 5 is a sparc box
[04:04] <nickrud> Cin, new hardware that dapper supports
[04:04] <Cin> Cool.
[04:04] <j-linux> Anyone else here with a thinkpad t43 with ATI driver problems?
[04:04] <tript> i've just installed pekwm on my new Ubuntu system, brought in my old menu file and have had to tweak a few things, but can't get a terminal to run (in my case, eterm).  any ideas/suggestions please?
[04:04] <thunderbear> nickrud, you have something to do with ubuntu-sparc port?
[04:04] <fiveiron> ugh
[04:04] <Cntryboy> shit prob 1 hour then
[04:04] <Cntryboy> ok ill bb in a few then
[04:04] <Madpilot> yoink, hmm, you should be automatically voiced when you join #freenode - are you registered & identified w/ Freenode yet?
[04:04] <sam1001> is ubuntu packaged with sun sparc system
[04:04] <wastrel> j-linux:  i'm on a thinkpad t42, ati works decent
[04:04] <h3sp4wn> I want to get an ultra 30 or something if it now supports sparc
[04:04] <wastrel> j-linux:  i'm using the default install, haven't tried fglrx yet
[04:04] <remoteBoy> how can i set permissions on a folder so that when any user adds a file to it, all other users can rwx it (including samba users)?
[04:04] <fiveiron> every time the restricted drivers and nvidia-glx are updated I end up running at 640x480.... *sigh*
[04:04] <nickrud> thunderbear, no, no, just noticing. I don't even remember being in the same room with one
[04:04] <krazykit> sam1001: it supports sparc now.
[04:04] <j-linux> wastrel: I don't understand what is wrong.
[04:04] <eric__> does anyone know what "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.." means and how to fix it
[04:05] <yoink> Madpilot, nope
[04:05] <j-linux> wastrel: you haven't installed a driver for it?
[04:05] <thunderbear> I just installed it on an Ultra 5.  It went on flawlessly.  It's going through "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" now :)
[04:05] <Madpilot> yoink, /msg nickserv help
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> krazykit: Do you have any sparc kit ? I had a Netra T1 for a bit
[04:05] <wastrel> j-linux:  i'm just using the default install, want to see my xorg.conf?
[04:05] <j-linux> wastrel: my screensavers are jerky... 3 frames per second maybe
[04:05] <thunderbear> later this weekend I am going to try it on an Ultra 2 because I have the hardware and I am a masochist
[04:05] <wastrel> well i'm not using any 3d stuff at the moment.
[04:05] <sam1001> I have several keyboards for sun system
[04:05] <sam1001> but I can't use it on a PC
[04:06] <krazykit> h3sp4wn: haha, no. i'm not old enough to have amassed a computer collection ;-)
[04:06] <thunderbear> when I get to work on Monday I have a Sunfire V880 that is unused that will be getting Ubuntu :)
[04:06] <fiveiron> anyone else at 640x480 after these last nvidia-glx updates?
[04:06] <krazykit> sam1001: sure you can.  i think there are pci cards that'll convert it.
[04:06] <athayde> finally
[04:06] <sam1001> krazykit, yea, they are like 80 bux
[04:06] <j-linux> wastrel: my computer works fine, except for the screen savers and anything 3D -- I don't really play games on it though.  Would like my screensavers to work though.
[04:06] <athayde> I found my songs, Cin
[04:06] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: cant seem to stop X??? what can i be doin wrong??
[04:06] <Cin> fiveiron, nope... though mine was updated before... and I haven't restarted X yet. :O
[04:06] <wastrel> j-linux:  have you seen the ati page on the wiki?
[04:06] <athayde> thanks
[04:06] <Cin> athayde, good. :)
[04:06] <Jeeves_Moss> all: any one in here have a sudgestion for a graphical alternitive to BIND?
[04:06] <krazykit> Mike-X2: i have no idea what you're trying to do, honestly
[04:06] <wastrel> j-linux:  i haven't bothered with it yet - but i did get fglrx working under breezy
[04:07] <Mike-X2> have installed binutils thou
[04:07] <krazykit> sam1001: feh, nothing a soldering iron and some bits of wire can't fix ;-)
[04:07] <Cin> remoteBoy, do you know UNIX file permissions?
[04:07] <j-linux> waster: I went through that twice with Breezy... just made it impossible to get into X so I had to reverse everything.
[04:07] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: need to install GFX
[04:07] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: NV
[04:07] <eric__> does anyone know what "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.." means and how to fix it?
[04:08] <j-linux> (wastrel -- sorry, a bit dislexic)
[04:08] <sam1001> krazykit, I actually read an article about how to make an adapter for it
[04:08] <athayde> Cin, well, now the problem is with my xmms
[04:08] <krazykit> Mike-X2: ooooh.  well if you drop to a virtual terminal (crtl-alt-f1) and log in there, do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[04:08] <remoteBoy> Cin, yea, but i dont want to keep chmod 'ing everything after someone adds a new file
[04:08] <krazykit> Mike-X2: that ought to get rid of X for you
[04:08] <wastrel> j-linux:  i remember a mistake in the wiki page for breezy actually.
[04:08] <athayde> I can't listen or to play any songs
[04:08] <Mike-X2> krazy: just done that, but X still there
[04:08] <sam1001> it was quite complicated
[04:08] <Cin> remoteBoy, aye, do it for the directory.
[04:08] <krazykit> Mike-X2: sudo killall Xorg
[04:08] <Jeeves_Moss> taunt cin
[04:08] <Remy> hi guys, anyone around had much experience installing GRUB ?
[04:09] <eric__> does anyone know what "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.." means and how to fix it
[04:09] <Cin> Jeeves_Moss, :O
[04:09] <remoteBoy> Cin, so any file or folder inside the directory will inherit the permissions also?
[04:09] <Jeeves_Moss> Remy: what do you need to know?
[04:09] <wastrel> j-linux:  the wiki page looks pretty simple for dapper tho https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:09] <j-linux> wastrel: I'll check it again now.
[04:09] <remoteBoy> Cin, when added/changed?
[04:09] <Cin> remoteBoy, so the theory goes.
[04:09] <sam1001> crazykit, are you a developer for ubuntu
[04:09] <Cin> athayde, what's up with XMMS?
[04:09] <krazykit> sam1001: my nick starts with a k... but no, i'm not
[04:09] <Remy> Jeeves_Moss:  - I'm trying to reinstall grub after loading windows (which wiped it)...  I need to know how to work out which my root drive is for grub.
[04:09] <Mike-X2> Krazykit: ok killall in virtual mode??
[04:09] <Cin> KRazyKit. :P
[04:10] <Kwek> hi
[04:10] <j-linux> wastrel: be back to let you know if it works :S
[04:10] <krazykit> Mike-X2: yes.
[04:10] <remoteBoy> Cin, theory eh
[04:10] <wastrel> gl :]
[04:10] <Remy> Jeeves_Moss:  I know my linux partition is hda2, but not sure what else I need
[04:10] <sam1001> krazykit, yea, sorry about that
[04:10] <Kwek> if i install apache+php+mysql from the source downloaded from the websites, how do i uninstall them?
[04:10] <Mike-X2> Krazykit thx
[04:10] <athayde> Cin, nothing... I resolve this problem
[04:10] <planetcall> goodmorning peeps
[04:10] <Cin> athayde, well in.
[04:10] <krazykit> sam1001: nah, it just hilights my nick if you spell it right.  helps me see if someone's talking at me ;-)
[04:10] <eric__> how do i change my name
[04:10] <mathewfer> Hi I just installed the Ubuntu 6.06 but I can not get the WPA to work? can you help?
[04:10] <sam1001> but don't get me adapted to it cause i'm gonna make wrong spellings thereafter
[04:10] <krazykit> eric__: /nick name
[04:10] <tript> eric_: /nick lookielookiemynewname
[04:10] <Mark1412> hey!, what you guys use for uploading and downloading music onto your ipod???
[04:10] <Jeeves_Moss> Remy:  I foudn the simplest thing to do was to install Windows (after partitioning off enough drive space for Ubuntu), then installing Linux second.  Otherwise, I think if you try to reinstall Ubuntu (but quitting the install before it actuly installs the main system (just grub), you shoudl be find.
[04:11] <js_> Mark1412: internetz
[04:11] <krazykit> sam1001: you know about tab completion, right?  you type the first few letters of the nick and hit tab.  it'll complete it
[04:11] <Mark1412> js_: where can i get this from
[04:11] <name> krazykit thanks
[04:11] <Remy> hm, Jeeves_Moss - might try that...
[04:11] <krazykit> name: haha, you replace name with the nick you want
[04:11] <Remy> thanks
[04:11] <sam1001> krazykit, yea, good idea
[04:11] <BSG75> hi anyone know howto install a Promise Fastrak 100 as raid0?
[04:12] <tript> oh look ubuntu has joined ubuntu
[04:12] <Jeeves_Moss> Remy:  best sudgestion is if you don't have anything important on your Ubuntu install, just reinstall it.
[04:12] <FWO> alright thanks
[04:12] <Remy> Jeeves_Moss: I do have some stuff that I'd prefer to keep if possible
[04:12] <FWO> haha
[04:12] <Remy> which is why I'm trying to re-load GRUB...
[04:12] <Jeeves_Moss> Remy:  I've got to run.  Off to my third job for today.
[04:12] <mathewfer> I jst installed Ubuntu 6.06 and unbale to get the WPA working? can tell me a link to find a way to get it up?
[04:12] <Remy> :)
[04:12] <Cin> remoteBoy, provided the creators of the file are in the same group, and the owner set the folder with group read/write/change permissions, users in the same group will have these permissions of that folder. Makes sense?
[04:13] <FWO> does anyone know what "Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVD.." means and how to fix it
[04:13] <krazykit> Remy: oh, that's easy.  load up the liveCD, chroot into your system, and rerun grub-install.  the important bits of these steps are around somewhere.
[04:13] <yoink_23> Madpilot, ok, im all registered, but i still can't talk...also, #freenode forwarded me to #freenode-social
[04:13] <morphix> mathewfer: For easy WPA support in Ubuntu 6.06, install the package network-manager-gnome, then log out and in. Otherwise install wpasupplicant and read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.
[04:13] <Kwek> if i install apache+php+mysql from the source downloaded from the websites, how do i uninstall them?
[04:13] <FWO> i really want to be able to play dvds
[04:13] <Remy> krazykit: - I allready have the guide to doing that, but it's the "important bits" that I don't know ;-)
[04:13] <Cin> yoink_23, you have to identify. /msg nickserv identify <password>
[04:13] <FWO> but i cant
[04:13] <FWO> it wont recognize
[04:13] <krazykit> Remy: aaah.  which bits? the chroot or the grub part?
[04:14] <Cin> yoink_23, oh, you are identified.
[04:14] <Remy> krazykit:  the grub part
[04:14] <krazykit> Remy: hrm, how're your hard drives set up?
[04:14] <Madpilot> yoink_23, #freenode will sometimes forward to another channel - but you should be getting voice automatically when you join it... odd
[04:14] <Remy> krazykit: - just 1 hdd, has two main partitions, one for windows, one for linux.
[04:14] <sam1001> is ubuntu easy to install?
[04:14] <tript> anyone here use pekwm?
[04:14] <mathewfer> morphix: can I know what are the packages needed to install for network manager?
[04:15] <Cin> sam1001, my teacher can install Ubuntu.
[04:15] <Cin> sam1001, it's _that_ easy.
[04:15] <Cin> :P
[04:15] <sam1001> Cin, who's your teacher
[04:15] <yoink_23> Madpilot, "#freenode-social :Cannot send to channel"
[04:15] <dataangel> Is there an emacs .deb somewhere I can download that has gtk _and_ xft support? emacs-snapshot-gtk appears to be lacking xft
[04:15] <Cin> sam1001, David Hasselhoff.
[04:15] <morphix> mathewfer: just install it using synaptic.. it will auto handle the dependecies for you
[04:15] <sam1001> Cin, he must be really good at installing linux
[04:15] <Madpilot> yoink_23, odd
[04:15] <FlimFlamMan> is there a way to specify whether or not the contents of a window is displayed while dragging it?
[04:15] <Cin> sam1001, oh, the Hoff is. :P
[04:16] <krazykit> Remy: i don't recall the exact syntax, is the problem.  lemme search for a minute
[04:16] <Cin> sam1001, why, are you having problems?
[04:16] <mathewfer> morphix: I do not have the Internet connection so I need to get them & install them manually first to get the netwrok access.
[04:16] <sam1001> I've spent days just to get Gentoo installed on my PC
[04:16] <Remy> thanks krazykit
[04:16] <Cin> FlimFlamMan, depends on the window manager.
[04:16] <FlimFlamMan> default in dapper
[04:16] <FlimFlamMan> metacity i guess?
[04:16] <Kwek> does ubuntu support rpms?
[04:16] <sam1001> but couldn't load because I didn't know how to install grub
[04:16] <morphix> how can i stop xfce4-panel from loading at startup..?
[04:16] <Kwek> RPM*
[04:16] <Cin> morphix, do you use GDM or startx?
[04:16] <krazykit> Remy: i THINK the command would be sudo grub-install hd0
[04:16] <morphix> gdm.
[04:16] <iiiears> Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?
[04:17] <Madpilot> Kwek, it uses .deb files natively, not rpm
[04:17] <Cin> Kwek, check out alien.
[04:17] <Remy> krazykit: the command in the doco is grub-install /dev/hdaX
[04:17] <Remy> the prob is that when I do that it doesn't work :P
[04:17] <morphix> Cin: i use GDM
[04:17] <krazykit> Remy: then it's wrong. grub's site says it's hd0
[04:17] <Cin> morphix, it's in the GDM session, or should be.
[04:18] <Kwek> if i install apache+php+mysql from the source downloaded from the websites, how do i uninstall them?
[04:18] <morphix> Cin: and how do i change it?
[04:18] <krazykit> Remy: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Invoking-grub-install.html  according to that anyway
[04:18] <Cin> morphix, but I don't use GDM, and can't remember where that configuration is.
[04:18] <Remy> hmk, thanks krazykit - will read through that
[04:18] <Cin> morphix, lemmie have a gander.
[04:18] <FWO> how do i get to sudo
[04:18] <morphix> Cin: ok
[04:19] <Cin> FWO, sudo <command>
[04:19] <fiveiron> ugh.. whats the command to reconfigure X?
[04:19] <Esquire> I'm looking to use my ubuntu server for NAT/Gateway ... Cable Modem ==> Ubuntu Box ==> Netgear Wireless Router ==> Clients.  Do I just need IPTABLES to accomplish this?
[04:19] <FWO> cin what does that mean
[04:19] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell FWO about sudo
[04:19] <Cin> morphix, oh, here we go.
[04:19] <FWO> cin how do i get to sudo
[04:19] <Nathanael> I connvinced a friend to install Ubuntu (he's worked with *nix before) and he was telling me today how impressed he was with how far it's come
[04:19] <Cin> morphix, http://fedoranews.org/contributors/diego_figueroa/xfce/
[04:19] <Cin> morphix, find /etc/X11/dm/Sessions/xfce.desktop
[04:19] <wastrel> fiveiron:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:19] <Madpilot> FWO, when you need to use sudo, just stick 'sudo' in front of the command you need to run - "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", for example
[04:19] <Cin> morphix, is it there?
[04:19] <fiveiron> thank you
[04:19] <morphix> Cin: checking.
[04:19] <sam1001> can you boot ubuntu through LAN
[04:20] <siriusnova> hey guys any word on the Thinkpad Suspend / Hibernate problem?
[04:20] <Cin> FWO, it means if you want to run a command, such as, mkdir, you would do: sudo mkdir
[04:20] <planetcall> Nathanael, we all are !
[04:20] <iiiears> Esquire - Firestarter is a GUI for IPTABLES - I think firestarter will help.
[04:20] <FWO> nadpilot where do i type the command
[04:20] <Nathanael> indedd
[04:20] <Nathanael> *indeed
[04:20] <Cin> iiiears, man Firestarter rocks my socks.
[04:20] <Nathanael> (mac keyboard)
[04:20] <krazykit> sam_: assuming your computer supports boot-from-lan, it should work.
[04:20] <wastrel> socks, eh
[04:20] <Healot> sam1001: not ubuntu... does your network card support LAN...
[04:20] <Esquire> thnx iiears... I've never worked with iptables, so I need something as simple as possible
[04:21] <iiiears> Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?
[04:21] <krazykit> sam1001: assuming your computer supports boot-from-lan, it shoudl work.  in short, anything another linux distro can do, ubuntu can do.  linux is linux, pretty much.
[04:21] <sam1001> Krazykit, so ubuntu is like a server os
[04:21] <krazykit> sam1001: it can be.
[04:21] <iiiears> Esquire - If firestarter isn't easy enough i will give you double your money back
[04:21] <krazykit> sam1001: though it's mostly used as a desktop os
[04:21] <Remy> how can I find where my /boot is?
[04:21] <Cin> iiiears, I think if you can mount it, you can symlink it. But not sure.
[04:21] <Esquire> 2 x $0 ... pretty good deal, iiears
[04:22] <eugman> Iiears, why not give him triple his money back?  :)
[04:22] <krazykit> Remy: if it's not a seperate partition, you shouldn't need it
[04:22] <Remy> ahk
[04:22] <j-linux> wastrel: no luck.  It is apparently installed but still 3 fps.
[04:22] <Cin> sam1001, I run my web server on Ubuntu, but I'm using it now as a desktop computer also. ^__^
[04:22] <Remy> so even if I have two partitions it should still be installed to hd0 ?
[04:22] <Esquire> krazykit... there's a special server install that has options for a LAMP server and whatnot...
[04:22] <morphix> Cin: there is no /X11/dm/Sessions
[04:22] <krazykit> Remy: it should install to the MBR, which has nothing to do with the partitions
[04:23] <Esquire> I do the server install, then pull in whatever desktop I feel like
[04:23] <Remy> ok
[04:23] <Remy> thanks
[04:23] <Remy> here goes :)
[04:23] <Cin> morphix, oh, sorry. I copied it from that web site. It has an error.
[04:23] <sam1001> that's certainly something win98 can't do
[04:23] <Cin> morphix, /etc/gdm/Sessions/
[04:23] <krazykit> Esquire: yes, but i'd still say ubuntu is more focussed on the desktop.
[04:23] <morphix> Cin: there's no Sessions there.
[04:23] <Remy> hey, if I hold down "ctrl + alt + F1" to change to tty, how do I get back into the standard ubuntu desktop ?
[04:23] <Remy> do I have to reboot ?
[04:23] <morphix> Cin: only Xsession
[04:23] <sam_> question Ihave installed the drivers for my video card everything went well when I check glxgears my cpu maxes out is this right?
[04:23] <krazykit> Remy: ctrl-alt-f7
[04:24] <Cin> morphix, open Xsession. What is in there?
[04:24] <Remy> krazykit: beautiful, thanks.
[04:24] <Cin> morphix, stuff like that? >> /usr/bin/xfce-mcs-manager
[04:24] <Nathanael> Ubuntu automagically recognizes the special keys on the mac keyboard, for volume, etc. - that's impressive
[04:24] <iiiears> Cin: Thats what i was thinking. - I am just too green at this to know if the syntax is wrong or i need an app to bridge the gap. cd to/directory/for/ symlink THEN  ln -s -t="samba/target/dir" - is that close?
[04:24] <morphix> actually.. xSession is actually a conf file lol.
[04:24] <Cin> morphix, or are you referring to a directory?
[04:24] <phrowzen> hey
[04:24] <morphix> i can get to that xfce-mcs-manager
[04:24] <sam1001> Krazykit, does it have to be specially configured to run as a server?
[04:25] <Cin> morphix, /usr/bin/xftaskbar4 &
[04:25] <Remy> hey guys, what's the root pw for the dapper live CD ?
[04:25] <Cin> morphix, remove that line
[04:25] <Remy> or the sudo pw ?
[04:25] <sam1001> I mean a server that other computer can boot from
[04:25] <Cin> iiiears, I'm not sure to be honest, never tried it.
[04:25] <phrowzen> i have only a 100MB boot partition, and i dont want to install the new kernel image because its 92% full, is it as simple as just rm -rf'ing them and grub-install will no longer install them to the boot loader? or is there some other location?
[04:25] <krazykit> sam1001: oh, that'd take some work.  dunno how you'd do that
[04:25] <wastrel> phrowzen:  it would be better to apt-get remove the old kernels
[04:25] <morphix> Cin: actually i cant find that file.. :/
[04:26] <phrowzen> wastrel, ahh teriffic, much easier, thanks
[04:26] <Cin> morphix, I meant in the configuration file.
[04:26] <krazykit> Remy: i thought it ran as "root" anyway, on the liveCD.  you shouldn't need root perms to chroot or anything
[04:26] <Cin> morphix, is it not in Xsession?
[04:26] <Remy> krazykit: when I try to run grub-install it says I don't have permissions...
[04:26] <planetcall> Remy, sudoing is good enough
[04:26] <iiiears> A hand full of knowledgeable people answer the lions share of questions asked. - help!  - lol
[04:26] <krazykit> Remy: are you chrooted into your installation?
[04:27] <Cin> morphix, mine looks like this: http://rtfs.ath.cx/.xsession.txt
[04:27] <Remy> krazykit: not sure, what do you mean by that ?
[04:27] <FWO> To activate DVD decryption, type the following line into a terminal prompt:                        where is this?
[04:27] <Cin> FWO, a terminal prompt
[04:27] <Cin> ?
[04:27] <FWO> cin yes
[04:27] <krazykit> Remy: it means, did you do chroot /your/drive /bin/bash first?
[04:27] <Remy> nope
[04:27] <Cin> FWO, programs > Accessories > Terminal
[04:28] <morphix> Cin: but that's because your using ~/.xsession and NOT gdm
[04:28] <Cin> Or something similar.
[04:28] <Remy> krazykit: how do I do that ?
[04:28] <krazykit> Remy: it's been a long time since i've had to do this ;-)
[04:28] <Cin> morphix, I know. I'm wondering what your Xsession file looks like.
[04:28] <Remy> :-D  at least you've done it before :P
[04:28] <krazykit> Remy: oooh, the gentoo install guide covers installing grub manually really well.  the steps are identical.  lemme link you
[04:29] <Mark1412>  internetz!
[04:29] <Mark1412> ! internetz
[04:29] <Remy> sweet
[04:29] <Remy> :)
[04:29] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mark1412
[04:29] <Mark1412> wow
[04:29] <sam1001> krazykit, can the c/c++ compiler be updated
[04:29] <Mark1412> what program do you guys use to upload music to your ipod?!?!?!
[04:29] <Cin> Mark1412, amaroK.
[04:29] <Mark1412> cin: where can i get that?
[04:30] <sam1001> krazykit, seems there are always dependencie issues when I try to install a package/software
[04:30] <Cin> Mark1412, Synaptic.
[04:30] <Cin> Mark1412, are you on Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[04:30] <Mark1412> ubuntu
[04:30] <Remy> !us
[04:30] <ubotu> **NB** The US Archives are having frequent issues, remove the "us" out of your  sources.list by typing >> sudo sed -i 's/us\.//g' /etc/apt/sources.list <<in a terminal (Menu applications accessories terminal)
[04:30] <Remy> !tell sam1001 about us
[04:31] <FWO> cin thanks
[04:31] <krazykit> sam1001: that's not a compiler issue.  you need to install the -dev headers for the dependencies
[04:31] <Mark1412> cin: cant find it in synaptic
[04:31] <plunkie> anyone know how to make the default ATI drivers work on 2 monitors with landscape mode? TIA :)
[04:31] <krazykit> Remy: gimme a few more minutes.
[04:31] <Remy> np krazykit
[04:32] <johnjay_> can somebody give me a hand configuring wireless on ubuntu 6.06?  it sees my card alright, and it activates, but signal strength is 0
[04:32] <sam1001> back
[04:32] <Nathanael> You need to input the SSID
[04:32] <Nathanael> in network config
[04:33] <Cin> Mark1412, you need to add extra repositories.
[04:33] <Nathanael> System>Administration>Networking
[04:33] <Cin> Ohhh, he's gawn.
[04:33] <plunkie> I look in the manual and i see nothing on how to make dual monitor work :(
[04:33] <johnjay_> i did that, as well as the wep key
[04:33] <johnjay_> and the connection settings
[04:33] <krazykit> Remy: ah, have you tried the guide on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:33] <sam1001> plunkie, you mean on ubuntu?
[04:33] <johnjay_> then when i activate it, it takes a year and a day but gets there eventually
[04:33] <plunkie> yes Ubuntu
[04:34] <Nathanael> hmm
[04:34] <Nathanael> Yet no IP?
[04:34] <Remy> krazykit: that's the one I'm reading, but I don't know how to get the numbers that correspond to my setup...  eg, root(hd0,6) - how do I know what numbers to use for me ?
[04:34] <Remy> krazykit: I'm reading the "Using LiveCD and overwriting windows bootloader"
[04:34] <sam1001> that's definitely not a good idea, it took me a while just to make the screen refresh rate above 85
[04:34] <johnjay_> Nathanael, what do you mean by 'no IP?'
[04:35] <krazykit> Remy: ooooooh.  ok. i see what your problem is.  how're the partitions set up?  which is the first partition, and which is the linux partition?
[04:35] <krazykit> Remy: err, windows and linux
[04:35] <Remy> k
[04:35] <Remy> as follows:
[04:35] <sam1001> I had to edit a file that describes refresh rate and such,
[04:35] <Nathanael> I mean you activate, and yet you get no IP from the router?
[04:35] <Nathanael> Absolutely no connection?
[04:36] <johnjay_> no connection at all, no
[04:36] <Remy> !paste
[04:36] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel! Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting long texts as it does not distrupt the channel. You might also want to install the "webboard" package from Universe.
[04:36] <wastrel> anyone got a creative zen mp3 player - how do you like it?  does it work ok w/ lunix?
[04:36] <sam1001> now I can make it 84hz at 1024*768
[04:36] <Nathanael> Well, I would try without WEP first
[04:37] <johnjay_> k
[04:37] <johnjay_> giving it a go
[04:37] <Nathanael> If it works, it's a WEP issue, if not, well..
[04:37] <sam1001> wastrel, I think there might be problems writing mp3 files to the usb disk
[04:37] <Remy> krazykit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15842  <- screenshot of the partitions
[04:37] <wastrel> doh
[04:37] <nbound> ok people i have a weird problem
[04:37] <Cin> nbound, oh noes! D:
[04:38] <sam1001> there won't be any problems reading files from the disk though
[04:38] <krazykit> Remy: haha, that's a TON of swap.
[04:38] <nbound> all my keyboard shortcuts in the menus, have "keyboard label|<whatever the keyboard shortcut is>"
[04:38] <sam1001> what do you need al that swap for
[04:38] <Remy> krazykit: It set it up automatically, I didn't touch it :D
[04:38] <plunkie> I have 8 gigs of ram :/
[04:39] <sam1001> plunkie doesn't need any swap space
[04:39] <Remy> krazykit: I don't even know what the extended and swap partitions do / are for :D
[04:39] <sam1001> the swap is like virtual memory space in windows
[04:39] <planetcall> plunkie, you must be running windows !
[04:39] <plunkie> eally? i thought i was supposed to make a swap half the size of my memory?
[04:39] <krazykit> Remy: oh, i see.  what a strange partition setup.  anyway.
[04:39] <Mark1412> can anyone help me with amaroK?
[04:39] <DShepherd> Mark1412: ask in #kubuntu
[04:39] <sam1001> planetcall, haha
[04:39] <nbound> i first noticed it after i programmed my extra keys keyboard shortcuts. so im wondering if theres a way to set them all back to default :S
[04:39] <plunkie> cool, I will re-format it and fill it with pr0n
[04:39] <DShepherd> Mark1412: what's your prob by the way?
[04:40] <krazykit> Remy: root (hd0,1)       setup (hd0)
[04:40] <hola> HIya all
[04:40] <Dial_tone> I find ubuntu more reliable for burning dvds than xp was
[04:40] <DShepherd> hey'
[04:40] <sam1001> krazykit, how do i install a grub
[04:40] <sam1001> and where to
[04:40] <krazykit> sam1001: read the guide.
[04:40] <plunkie> is it true that we can install ATI drivers (FGLRX) from apt-get or synaptic?
[04:40] <nbound> anyone?
[04:40] <Remy> you sure krazykit ?  Ok, thanks a ton :D
[04:40] <speedy> how can i play online video streaming with totem and firefox?
[04:41] <krazykit> Remy: yep, i'm sure.
[04:41] <nbound> plunkie, yes
[04:41] <hola> I just got basically all my music going yesterday by installing those restricted packages, but my WMA's wont play
[04:41] <hola> Can someone help me please
[04:41] <plunkie> must I be at run level 1?
[04:41] <Remy> ok, thanks mate.
[04:41] <plunkie> or can I use synaptic
[04:41] <Remy> here goes
[04:41] <Draconicus> First of all, I recently fixed my sound with the help of crimsun_. Now the volume is much lower than it used to be before I lost sound due to a weird side effect of updating Dapper from Flight 6 to the official release.
[04:41] <nbound> plunkie, u can use synaptic... i think u gotta edit ur xorg.conf to load the fglrx module as well
[04:41] <Draconicus> Secondly, X locks up and leaves my system unusable when I try to launch rosegarden.
[04:42] <krazykit> Draconicus: make sure it's not something silly like PCM being low
[04:42] <planetcall> hola you need w32codecs
[04:42] <plunkie> ok thank you :)
[04:42] <Remy> krazykit: when I run "root(hd0,1)"  I get :  Error27: unrecognized command
[04:42] <DShepherd> speedy: install  the totem plugin for firefox
[04:42] <nbound> plunkie, dont take any of that as gospel, i havent installed an ATI card for quite a while
[04:42] <krazykit> Remy: there's a space in there
[04:42] <Nathanael> forgot the space
[04:42] <hola> hmmmm, i'm sure I installed them yesterday
[04:42] <Draconicus> krazykit: I mean the actual volume output, not the settings. When PCM and Master are maxed, it's lower than it used to be.
[04:42] <nbound> all my keyboard shortcuts in the menus, have "keyboard label|<whatever the keyboard shortcut is>"
[04:42] <hola> i'll double check
[04:42] <planetcall> hola visit here   https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-16ea04e7e1ecd06555912ba3f470b56563cbd85d
[04:42] <hola> okay thanks
[04:43] <Draconicus> krazykit: Even the system beep is quieter... It's crazy!
[04:43] <Remy> krazykit: you are correct... but now I get Error:21 - Selected disk does not exist
[04:43] <Remy> I ran: "root (hd0,1)
[04:43] <Remy> "
[04:43] <paul_> I got a question however silly it may seem. I have a soundblaster live 24 bit card that when it was running under windows I could get all four speakers playing I have connected to the card but in ubuntu no deal. It only plays two.
[04:43] <speedy> DShepherd: i have it installed
[04:43] <plunkie> after I put my computer under water teh fan stopped working on the power supply :/
[04:43] <DShepherd> speedy: mmm ok
[04:44] <Aven> hey
[04:44] <Aven> on the shell, how do I kill a logged in user?
[04:44] <sam1001> the wierd thing is that after I installed windows, the grub is gone
[04:44] <DShepherd> speedy: it doesnt work?
[04:44] <speedy> DShepherd i can see the window with play button, but i'm getting a msg saying cannot play over a network
[04:44] <Remy> !tell sam1001 about grub
[04:44] <sam1001> the grub is overrided with windows grub
[04:44] <planetcall> sam1001, window doesnt like grub
[04:44] <plunkie> sam1001: yea windows will destroy grub
[04:44] <krazykit> Remy: oh dear.
[04:44] <Remy> sam1001: that's exactly what I'm trying to fix :P
[04:44] <DShepherd> speedy: you using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[04:44] <Healot> but you can resurrect GRUB
[04:44] <plunkie> install windows first then ubuntu and all your other OSes
[04:45] <speedy> DShepherd totem-gstreamer
[04:45] <DShepherd> speedy: i use the mplayer plugin.. seems to work best for me
[04:45] <Draconicus> krazykit: Oh. Look at that. I guess a reboot fixed it. My sound was turned down when I booted up. Before this, it was lower than usual.
[04:45] <Aven> on the shell, how do I kill a logged in user?
[04:45] <Draconicus> krazykit: That doesn't fix the problem with rosegarden, though.
[04:45] <krazykit> Draconicus: yeah, dunno about rosegarden :-/
[04:45] <plunkie> killusr and teh log number I think
[04:45] <speedy> DShepherd yeah mplayer works fine with me
[04:45] <ardy> help I cannot use IP address in squid http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15844
[04:45] <Aven> on the shell, how do I kill a logged in user?
[04:45] <sam1001> fortunately all my files are still safe
[04:45] <Graig> does the ml-donkey package still mess up ubuntu?
[04:45] <plunkie> Aven killusr and teh log number I think
[04:45] <Remy> krazykit: "oh dear." ?  That doesn't sound good :-S
[04:45] <DShepherd> speedy: I havent had good luck with the totem-gstreamer plugin for firefox though
[04:46] <paul_> Also does anyone know where I can get an APA format template for openoffice. I have searched the net over but found nothing that is up to date.
[04:46] <sam1001> saftely stored in other linux partition
[04:46] <Aven> plunkie: how do I find the number? can't find it on ps x
[04:46] <planetcall> plunkie: is it not possible to run  grub-setup  from live cd if the mbr is overwritten by window ?
[04:46] <Draconicus> krazykit: Hmm.. ALSA isn't saving my config. I know there's an easy fix for this.
[04:46] <sam_> I installed my drivers for ATI video card  fglrx when I check my FPS my cpu maxes out does this mean that its not going through the video card
[04:46] <ericz> Aven, if they're logged in via ssh, run "kill <PID>" of the ssh session they're connected with..
[04:46] <Aven> and killuser isn't a command :\
[04:46] <plunkie> planetcall, yes I think it is possible
[04:46] <Aven> ericz: yeah, how do I get the pid number?
[04:46] <krazykit> Remy: i've had this problem.  and it's a BITCH to figure out.
[04:47] <raldi> Something went very wrong with my initrd. There's a bug in the database for it, but it's not fixed yet. I tried booting off a live CD, chrooting to my hard drive, and using dpkg to reinstall linux-image*.deb, but it didn't work.
[04:47] <ericz> aven: ps -aux | grep ssh
[04:47] <Draconicus> sam_: How fast is your CPU? What is it?
[04:47] <Remy> krazykit: do you know what's actually wrong ?
[04:47] <ardy> help I cannot use IP address in squid http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15844
[04:47] <raldi> Does anyone have any suggestions?
[04:47] <Aven> ah ty
[04:47] <sam_> AMD sempron 3000+
[04:47] <krazykit> Remy: at some point i did.
[04:47] <sam_> 2.1
[04:47] <planetcall> :P typo !
[04:47] <sam_> GHz
[04:48] <Remy> krazykit: any suggestions for what to try next ?
[04:48] <jshriver> Greetings again
[04:48] <jshriver> Is there a command that lets you search a text file for a given string (like grep) but can display x number of lines before or after that line?
[04:48] <sam_> Ihave checked glxinfo say DRI enabled
[04:48] <runes> Hi everyone
[04:48] <raldi> jshriver: grep -C
[04:48] <alexcamilo> Does anyone know if there is an app in ubuntu to view ssids in range and join them. something like a menu bar.
[04:49] <raldi> jshriver: or grep -A or grep -B
[04:49] <Healot> sam_ : grep acceleration
[04:49] <Draconicus> sam_: Hmm... I dunno. You just have an easily stressed CPU. A 3000+? That's very odd...
[04:49] <sam1001> can grep search for files
[04:50] <Draconicus> I'll just shut up, now. >_>
[04:50] <ericz> sam1001: "locate" is for searching files
[04:50] <sam1001> I have Celeron D 2.93G and linux runs fine
[04:50] <wastrel> locate is for searching for files
[04:50] <raldi> sam1001: what do you mean exactly? like "find | grep foo"?
[04:50] <lib8264q> hi channel :)
[04:50] <KidR> I cannot login to ubuntu, and apparantly it is because my hdd is full.  I am using a live cd, and I tried deleting files to make space so I could login, now the files are gone and I still have no space. :(
[04:50] <sam1001> ericz, cool, now I can actually search files
[04:50] <lib8264q> just have one ? about ubuntu setup
[04:50] <krazykit> Remy: um... have you considered using the unofficial super grub disc?  because i cannot for the life of me remember what to do :-/
[04:51] <iiiears> sam1001: sudo updatedb creaste a reference file   then locate
[04:51] <johnjay_> Nathanael, it's still b0rken.  here's a screenshot of my config window: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i15846
[04:51] <sam1001> raldi, i meant how i can search for a file using its name
[04:51] <sam_> the AGPart is going through the software not the hardware
[04:51] <Nathanael> ok
[04:51] <sam1001> i know ls can, but only in its current working directory
[04:51] <Remy> krazykit: tried it... it does pretty much the same thing... it doesn't boot into the nice gui that they show in the screenshots, but just into a standard grub shell which then just gives me errors no matter what I try
[04:51] <raldi> sam1001: what's its name?
[04:52] <Nathanael> Try something besides Hex - what are the other options?
[04:52] <raldi> sam1001: to search for all files containing "foo" under the current dir run "find | grep foo" or "find -name foo"
[04:52] <runes> KidR is it telling you how much space oyu ahve left?
[04:52] <krazykit> Remy: oh.  um... well... grub has tab completion.  try doing root(tabtabtab to see if it'll pick something up
[04:52] <johnjay_> ASCII
[04:52] <sam1001> what name
[04:52] <johnjay_> which i also tried, to no avail
[04:52] <Draconicus> ALSA isn't saving my config. What's that easy fix, again?
[04:52] <iiiears> gene099 - Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?  Do i need inetd? fuser?  nfs?
[04:52] <Remy> hmk.
[04:52] <KidR> runes, it says 0bytes
[04:52] <Nathanael> I remember finicking with mine alot to get it working - tried different options
[04:53] <Remy> krazykit: will try it.
[04:53] <Remy> bbl
[04:53] <runes> KidR can you get to a console?
[04:53] <Remy> if not, I guess it's re-install time again :P
[04:53] <johnjay_> kay.
[04:53] <Nathanael> I think WPA with an ASCII key
[04:53] <runes> KidR and are you dual booting or is it a full linux install?
[04:53] <krazykit> Draconicus: alsactl will do it.  check out the --help on it
[04:53] <Draconicus> iiiears: You can make symlinks to samba directories without a problem. Just be sure that you do them in reference to the mount point.
[04:53] <KidR> runes with a live cd or recovery mode, yes
[04:53] <iiiears> geneo99  Hobbsee - Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?  Do i need inetd? fuser?  nfs?
[04:53] <Nathanael> Dude - Frostwire rocks!
[04:53] <KidR> runes full linux
[04:54] <Nathanael> I've never tried it before
[04:54] <runes> KidR how many physical drives do you have in the machine
[04:54] <Nathanael> Disturbingly like Limewire - obviously intentional (I know)
[04:54] <raldi> Is there a surefire, foolproof way to install a kernel, its initrd, etc? I have a broken system. I booted via a live CD, chrooted, and tried rerunning: dpkg -i linux-image*.deb .. the command appeared to work, but my initrd is still the same old corrupt one.
[04:54] <krazykit> Nathanael: well, considering it's based on the same code...
[04:54] <KidR> runes 2, one for linux and one in fatx for file storage
[04:54] <runes> fatx
[04:54] <sam1001> limewire is liek the only software I could get installed successfully
[04:54] <runes> ?
[04:54] <Nathanael> It's just nicer than my past experiences with eMule...
[04:55] <KidR> runes linux one is full
[04:55] <runes> ie fat 32 16 ntfs?
[04:55] <FWO> thanks for everyones help i'll most likely be back later...haha
[04:55] <KidR> runes sry fat32 I believe
[04:55] <lib8264q> during initial setup root is disabled if i do a server install can i have a seperate password so that when  i want to log into terminal session within ubuntu is is a seperate password than the one  needed to log onto ubuntu
[04:55] <runes> KidR the drive that is fat 32..how much free space do you ahve available
[04:56] <runes> ?
[04:56] <iiiears> runes - ntfs is ntfs.
[04:56] <KidR> runes about 650mb
[04:56] <runes> iiiears, yes it is agreed
[04:56] <sam1001> in linux you can't write files to file systems other than ext,right
[04:56] <Sir_Brizz> lib8264q, sudo passwd root
[04:56] <runes> but I wanted to knwo if it was set in ntfs fat or fat 32 the process for mounting is sidderent
[04:56] <sam1001> incudes flash drives
[04:56] <runes> different
[04:56] <krazykit> sam1001: no.
[04:56] <sam1001> krazykit, is it a new feature
[04:57] <iiiears> FAT32 is the older Win 98/win2K file system. - perfect for sharing between windows and linux.
[04:57] <runes> KidR the drie that is full, approx how much dta is non essential to the operation of linux (your documetns music etc)
[04:57] <krazykit> sam1001: you can write to ext2/3, reiser3/4, xfs, jfs, fatX, hfs/+  all sorts of stuff
[04:57] <krazykit> sam1001: haha, no, it's been around for awhile.  this is nothing remotely new.
[04:57] <sam1001> I tried to write files to my flash drive but it didn't work
[04:57] <sam1001> and to ntfs,of course
[04:57] <Dial_tone> is reading/writing to fat32 pretty much as fast as native filesystems?
[04:58] <KidR> runes not much I think, I'm kinda new to linux, but the stuff I put there myself I backed up to fat32 drive
[04:58] <sam1001> my other partition that's serving windows xp
[04:58] <runes> KidR sorry for the typos been working on the car hands a mess...
[04:58] <krazykit> Dial_tone: as far as i can tell, yeah
[04:58] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Hello, how can I install kismet? I tried using synaptic but I seem to get these errors when trying to run it and it will not load. It says somethng about not being configured properly. How doI configure it if it doest even load?
[04:58] <KidR> runes in case i need to reinstall
[04:58] <Dial_tone> great
[04:58] <KidR> runes sokay
[04:58] <runes> KidR the idea was that you get yourself to console mode on the linux drive..you then "mount" the fat32 drive
[04:58] <runes> and copy over the non essential files rather than deleting them
[04:58] <krazykit> sam1001: then you're doing something wrong.  so long as the flash drive is not formatted as ntfs, it should write no problem
[04:59] <iiiears> sam1001 - You can add "ntfsprogs" for write to ntfs. (not something to trust your data to without good backups)
[04:59] <runes> KidR, this way you save your files and free space on the linux drive
[05:00] <runes> KidR,  do you know in which directory you stored your data on the linux drive?
[05:01] <Remy> krazykit - Success!
[05:01] <krazykit> Remy: huzzah!
[05:01] <Remy> krazykit - I used the supergrub disc, then ran the root and setup commands... and it worked !!!
[05:01] <Remy> wooootzoor :D
[05:01] <KidR> runes I have copied "nonessential"files to the fat32 drive using the live cd ( i mounted both drives)
[05:01] <krazykit> Remy: ack, just have a beer for me ;-)
[05:02] <Remy> let me know next time you're in sydney...
[05:02] <KidR> runes how would this be different with console mode?
[05:02] <runes> KidR, what size is your primary boot drive?  to have filled it with a basic install?
[05:02] <KidR> runes about 3.2gb
[05:02] <KidR> runes :p
[05:02] <krazykit> Remy: likely never, but enjoy one for me :-P
[05:02] <sam1001> where is the grub installed? is it on the ext partition?
[05:02] <Remy> will do :D
[05:02] <runes> KidR,  at least in console you can forward the data over to the other drive to free more space rather than deleting then use startx to get back into the desktop
[05:03] <runes> KidR, ahh ok then that would explain it
[05:03] <alexcamilo> my computer locked up when performing a software update. It got stuck on "Setting up gnome-panel-data (2.14.2-0ubuntu1) ..." is this normal and can i shut off my computer without anything going horribly wrong
[05:03] <runes> KidR, how many desktops did you install (kde and gnome?)
[05:03] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Is there anybody available to help?
[05:03] <sam1001> alexcamilo, are you sure it locked up
[05:03] <Remy> now for my next question...  I just ran the dapper live CD, and it had stuff in the Administration menu (eg, the gnome partition manager) that my system doesn't have!!  That's prob because mine was upgraded from hoary rather than installed from scratch.
[05:03] <sam1001> or is it downloading the files
[05:03] <Remy> so, anyone know how to get all the stuff now ?
[05:03] <alexcamilo> sam1001: mouse not responding
[05:04] <KidR> runes I'm newb, so whatever came with dapper
[05:04] <runes> KidR,  rather than reinstalling at the console you can use aptitude
[05:04] <alexcamilo> sam 1001: and its not making any noise.
[05:04] <KidR> runes actually, i upgraded from breezy, if that matters
[05:04] <sam1001> alex, are the update files downloaded to the drive yet
[05:04] <alexcamilo> yes
[05:04] <Cntryboy> amule is pretty cool
[05:04] <alexcamilo> sam 1001: it downloaded them then started installing them
[05:05] <krazykit> Remy: i think that one's gparted or something.  i don't use gnome though... you can always search synaptic
[05:05] <runes> htext based installer unistaller and slowly (carefully) remove app by app of the non essentials untill you can get back into the desktop
[05:05] <sam1001> then I think it's ok to restart and install the update again
[05:05] <KidR> runes I know not of this "aptitude"
[05:05] <Cntryboy> does it use the same as emule, meaning the same peer to peer? or are they all different networks ect
[05:05] <KidR> runes oh
[05:05] <Remy> krazykit  hm, i'm more wondering if there's a way of checking that my system has all the dapper basic stuff in it...
[05:05] <Ohzie> When do you guys think edgy will be available for usable testing?
[05:05] <sam1001> alex, but I'm not sure
[05:05] <krazykit> Remy: oh, just make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed.  it should pull in anything it needs.
[05:05] <runes> KidR,  you know in the desktop you ahve the synaptics package manager (sort of like windows updates only better?)
[05:05] <alexcamilo> sam1001: whats the worst that can happen. reinstall? lol
[05:06] <KidR> runes yes
[05:06] <runes> well there's also the same kidn of thing for colsole mode
[05:06] <sam1001> alex, I think that's the only choice
[05:06] <Remy> so sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[05:06] <runes> not point and clicky
[05:06] <puff> Hm.
[05:06] <krazykit> Remy: yup
[05:06] <runes> but useable
[05:06] <sam1001> what's the thing you'r installing
[05:06] <KidR> runes :p i see
[05:06] <krazykit> runes: you mean aptitude?
[05:06] <runes> so you can select and deselect what you want to add/remove
[05:06] <runes> krazykit, yes
[05:06] <Graig> is there a gnutella 2 client for linux?
[05:06] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Hello, how can I install kismet? I tried using synaptic but I seem to get these errors when trying to run it and it will not load. It says somethng about not being configured properly. How doI configure it if it doest even load?
[05:06] <krazykit> aptitude kicks ass :-D
[05:06] <alexcamilo> sam1001: i was doing an update after a fresh install of 6.06
[05:06] <Cntryboy> anyone know if amule has a option to like pick between what your searches consist of. Like if I wanna find a picture tell amule search for picture files ect.
[05:07] <KidR> runes and hope that frees some space, unlike deleting misc files
[05:07] <puff> Well, 24 hours of memory testing and the box seems okay.
[05:07] <runes> KidR,  but be careful as smart as it is it's only going to do what you tell it to so pls don't go uninstall hally
[05:07] <steev> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : you configure it in the text file
[05:07] <steev> its not a gui app
[05:07] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > where can I acess the text file
[05:07] <runes> Yes KidR  the idea is to preserve your machine not butcher it :-)
[05:07] <puff> now, I'm booting an ubuntu desktop install CD, and the first option is "start or install ubuntu".
[05:07] <KidR> runes, don't worry, I'm careful
[05:07] <steev> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : dpkg -L kismet
[05:07] <steev> look for conf files
[05:07] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[05:07] <puff> But how do I get it to *install* ubuntu?  When I select "Start or install" it just seems to go into boot-from-CD mode.
[05:07] <sam1001> alex, don't know what's gonna happen
[05:08] <steev> anyone who is around from earlier - i am still working on the nagios install, and im getting package conflicts
[05:08] <Remy> puff - on the desktop there is an "install" shortcut
[05:08] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Thank you Steev
[05:08] <alexcamilo> sam1001: its booting. so far so good. x just started.
[05:08] <Remy> puff - assuming you're talking about dapper
[05:08] <KidR> runes ty, I giess i'll research how to use aptitude, then reboot to recovery mode
[05:08] <sam1001> nice,
[05:08] <steev> although, i can't figure out how to get webboard to post to the ubuntu pastebin
[05:08] <puff> Ah, thanks.
[05:08] <krazykit> KidR: it's totally easy.  - uninstalls, + installs
[05:08] <Draconicus> I need to enable capture from the PCM output. How do I do this?
[05:08] <krazykit> KidR: and / searches
[05:08] <runes> KidR, if it make soyu feel any better I started using linux about two weks ago..coming from nt server environment I pretty much tortured the admins in this channel...but now have a very stable system
[05:08] <puff> Remy: And yeah, it's dapper.
[05:08] <Remy> puff - then the desktop shortcut should do it for you ;-)
[05:09] <steev> Selecting previously deselected package nagios-plugins-extra.
[05:09] <sam1001> you know how it froze alex
[05:09] <steev> Unpacking nagios-plugins-extra (from .../nagios-plugins-extra_<IP_ADDRESS>-12ubuntu3_i386.deb) ...
[05:09] <steev> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nagios-plugins-extra_<IP_ADDRESS>-12ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_game', which is also in package nagios-plugins-standard
[05:09] <steev> Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/nagios-plugins-extra_<IP_ADDRESS>-12ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:09] <KidR> runes, that's awesome
[05:09] <steev> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:09] <krazykit> steev: dude, pastebin that stuff next time
[05:09] <alexcamilo> sam1001: when i logged in it stays on the brown screen. the mouse works. but thats it
[05:09] <runes> KidR,  go for it and worst case that you have to reinstall you'll learn it inside out..always remember that once you get a good workign desktop BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP
[05:09] <sam1001> alex, can you go to the console window
[05:10] <sam1001> alex, try to get to the console window and reinstall the update
[05:10] <alexcamilo> sam1001: ok
[05:10] <KidR> runes that is a good Idea, but I don't have anywhere to bkp to...
[05:10] <runes> KidR,  a side note: the server and desktop are using 150 megs of ram in realtime....and about 5 perent cpu use  in windows server 2003 I was using 420 megs of ram +-
[05:11] <runes> and the cpu load was atrocious so it's worth the headaches of learning commands!!!
[05:11] <KidR> runes Wow!
[05:11] <steev> http://pastebin.com/714258
[05:11] <Remy> krazykit - if you don't use gnome, what do you use ?
[05:11] <KidR> runes yes, I like linux :)
[05:11] <runes> oh also consider that msoft wanted 800 for the os and 1500 for sql database licenses..so once my site is up tie to donate to Ubuntu
[05:12] <krazykit> Remy: well... i'm using a lot of xfce apps, but i'm using e17 for the actual WM/DE
[05:12] <sam1001> alex, did you see the login window
[05:12] <alexcamilo> sam1001: its restarting. and yes i did see the login window.
[05:12] <iiiears> If you don't like linux - rewrite the code until you do. - try that with the redmond washington OS. - lol
[05:12] <runes> sorry admins for the off topic...
[05:12] <KidR> runes :)
[05:12] <steev> anyone know how to get around that package collision?
[05:12] <sam1001> alex, what do you mean by brown screen? after loggin in?
[05:13] <KidR> runes well, I might be back later then, hope not though :p
[05:13] <alexcamilo> sam1001: yes. i logged in with the username and password. brown screen with white mouse came up. like right before the ubuntu music plays and you see the gnome loading thing. but non of that hapened
[05:13] <puff> Okay, it's just now bringing up the desktop... I know it's an old machine (p400, 256MB ram) but this seems excessively slow...
[05:13] <puff> Could there be something wrong?
[05:13] <runes> KidR,  if you are back hopefully you've got it all figured out take some time to do a good read before venturing in the console
[05:13] <teckfatt> how many personal computer do u guys has??
[05:14] <alexcamilo> sam1001: trying failsafe terminal
[05:14] <Healot> like all of us?
[05:14] <runes> teckfatt, 1 amd server  1 alpha server 2 desktops
[05:14] <Healot> teckfatt: a duel G4, AMD Athlon...
[05:14] <iiiears> puff - There is XFCE desktop Xubuntu.
[05:14] <Healot> that's two
[05:14] <jighead> steev, make a copy of /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_game, then you can go to /var/cache/apt/archives and then dpkg --force-overwrite -i nagios-plugins-extra_<IP_ADDRESS>-12ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:14] <krazykit> teckfatt: 2 that work, 1 that has no OS nor a power cord.
[05:14] <sam1001> alex, yea I guess some software is not updated completely and failed to load during system start
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> puff,  change to a lighter desktop like xfce.. or just a minimal window manager like icewm
[05:15] <steev> jighead: thanks, im used to Gentoo, so ubuntu is changing my thinking
[05:15] <alexcamilo> sam1001: i have a failsafe terminal. is there an apt-get option for "fix anything that may have broken"
[05:15] <krazykit> alexcamilo: only for broken deps.  apt-get check will do that
[05:15] <puff> i'll be gutting the gui eventually to turn it into a headless server box.
[05:16] <puff> But I'm just slightly worried that there's something missing...
[05:16] <patbam> hi, is there any way that i can make dapper automatically hook up to a wireless location?
[05:16] <Cntryboy> anyone use amule?
[05:16] <sam1001> alex, krazykit's right
[05:16] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Can you make a symlink to a remote samba directory?  or is nfs? fuser needed?
[05:16] <teckfatt> i only have one.....but after i start use GNU/Linux....i need two.... need one more for testing purpose
[05:16] <alexcamilo> sam1001: says dpkg was interupted and tells me to run a command. i'm gonna do it
[05:16] <Cntryboy> does anyone here use amule?
[05:16] <Cntryboy> I need to ask a question about finding the default amule directory through gui, I can only find it through terminal
[05:17] <morphix> i have xubuntu installed.. when i try i use the right click menu to exit xfce.. i get the "xfce4-session is not running error" even tho i can clearly see that it IS running, what could be the problem? screenshot >> http://members.westnet.com.au/morphix56/xfcesessionerror.JPG
[05:17] <sam1001> alex, does it take a long time to download the update
[05:17] <krazykit> teckfatt: feh, you find p2 and p3 boxes for dirt cheap.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  you coulkd make a lnik to the dir that its getting mounted to.
[05:17] <alexcamilo> sam1001: not really. it went quickly.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  and proberly dirs under that one as well.
[05:17] <runes> Cntryboy, cause it's a hidden directory
[05:17] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Can you help with the syntax?
[05:18] <sam1001> alex, it shouldn't have frozen in the middle of compilation
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  ln -s /whatever/place /whevber/place
[05:18] <runes> Cntryboy, in your home directory program settings are in .<directory>
[05:18] <Cntryboy> how can I make it show up
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  unless i totally missunderstand the problem you are having
[05:18] <sam1001> alex, I had problems updating once, but that was because c compiler was too old
[05:18] <alexcamilo> sam1001: i just clicked install updates after getting the wireles card working.
[05:18] <Cntryboy> I found it through terminal, but I want to make it unhidden to the gui
[05:19] <runes> Cntryboy, in your file browser, click View>Show Hidden FIles
[05:19] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Thanks -  <localDir>ln -s  -t="/Path/To/RemoteDir/"  /
[05:19] <runes> Cntryboy, pls be careful deleting settings could cause adverse effects on your applications **you ahve been warned***
[05:19] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Thanks -  <localDir>ln -s  -t="/Path/To/RemoteDir/"  ?
[05:19] <zodo> Hi folks.  I'm in the midst of troubleshooting slow transfer speeds over my internal network...and I've traced it back (with ethereal) to copious numbers of packets with incorrect checksums coming from my main machine.  It uses a Marvell Lan interface on an ASUS K8V-SE Deluxe.  Has anyone encountered this before/any tips?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> iiiears,  where is this -t comming from?
[05:19] <sam1001> alex, what kind of computer are you using
[05:20] <patbam> hi, is there any way that i can make dapper automatically hook up to a wireless location?
[05:20] <Cntryboy> k let me try
[05:20] <Cntryboy> you mean becareful of not to delete files that are hidden files
[05:20] <zodo> I only see this behavior under Dapper.
[05:20] <alexcamilo> sam1001: compaq presdtario 1700T
[05:20] <iiiears> Dr_Willis: Okay - lol - Thank You. (I didn't have the right syntax)
[05:20] <alexcamilo> with a netgear wg511v2 wifi card.
[05:20] <teckfatt> is there any software like 'nortan Ghost' for GNU/Linux?
[05:21] <krazykit> patbam: i'm sure there's a better "ubuntu way" of doing it, but i made a little shell script to connect to my network at boot.
[05:21] <alexcamilo> sam1001: all i did after a fresh install was apt-get update, installed wrapper. installed card. nidswrapper -m. restart then i proceeded to update
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> teckfatt,  mondo/mindi lets you backup to bootable media/servers
[05:21] <Cntryboy> well then is there a safe way to just have amule dir show or a link to the hidden
[05:21] <Cntryboy> or something?
[05:21] <sam__> what kind of environment do I need to try out xgl/compiz? i guess i need a windowmanager that takes advantage of it?
[05:21] <teckfatt> Dr_Willis: thank you
[05:21] <runes> zodo,  are you using the default linux drivers or did you oad the asus ones
[05:21] <runes> ?
[05:21] <patbam> krazykit: would you mind describing what you rscript looks like? my old fedora approach of renewing the dhcp licenses on my router & then doing a sudo /sbin/dhclient on ubunutu just doesn't seem to work
[05:21] <zodo> Default ones.
[05:22] <sam1001> alex, laptop may be too hot
[05:22] <runes> zodo, lemme check what they have...I don't recommend using any drivers outside the default mobo drivers for the chipset functionality and nic...
[05:22] <runes> brb
[05:22] <krazykit> patbam: meh, it's just iwconfig wlan0 essid xxxxx, iwconfig wlan0 key xxxxxxx, dhclient wlan0.  i put that in a script, and put that script into /etc/rc.local, as i recall.
[05:22] <Cntryboy> runes well lets say im in amule searching for dvd movies or pictures or what not. How can I tell amule that im searching for lets say  picture file ONLY
[05:23] <patbam> krazykit: ok, thanks
[05:23] <ThePub> anyone care to help me venture a guess why on a fresh install the 2.6.12 kernel will launch into X but the 2.6.15 crashes the computer..
[05:23] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone help me get my ipod to work with linux?
[05:23] <ThePub> (under dapper)
[05:23] <Nathanael> there's all kinnds of ipod options
[05:23] <sam1001> krazykit, do you know if usb wireless adapters work with linux
[05:23] <tuxtheslacker> I have it formatted for a mac, is that a problem?
[05:23] <silvaran> ThePub: Video driver modules in kernel?
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> ThePub,  furst guess - the nvidia or ati drivers are not loading right.
[05:23] <tuxtheslacker> and if so, how do I fix it?
[05:23] <alexcamilo> sam1001: its working now. i did dpkg --configure -i and then i exited and logged back in
[05:24] <alexcamilo> sam1001 gnome works now
[05:24] <sam1001> alex, nice work
[05:24] <ThePub> I don't use either, just the standard ati xorg driver
[05:24] <Toran> hey guys, I'm having a problem with my ATI Radeon 9200 card. I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package and updated my xorg.conf file to use the 'fglrx' driver. After restarting X I ran 'glxinfo' to see if direct rendering is working and I saw a lot of messages like this one: "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for..." OpenOffice also doesn't work. What is going on?
[05:24] <alexcamilo> sam1001: is there any way to complete the updates that didnt finish installing?
[05:24] <krazykit> sam1001: a few of them do natively, but many work with ndiswrapper.  i tihnk.
[05:24] <sam1001> alex, so your system is updated now
[05:24] <Draconicus> Nautilus has been spontaneously crashing.
[05:24] <Draconicus> When it isn't even active...
[05:24] <sam1001> alex, didn't you just update your system in console mode
[05:24] <silvaran> ThePub: You sure you're not using the prop. ATI driver (flglx or whatever...)
[05:24] <tuxtheslacker> anyone know how to get the ipod working wiht linux?
[05:25] <Nathanael> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu
[05:25] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: you just plug it in, really.  ubuntu'll take care of the rest.
[05:25] <runes> Cntryboy, will get to you in a sec :-)
[05:25] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > How can I find what wifi chipset I have
[05:25] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Its an internal card
[05:25] <Cntryboy> ok
[05:25] <Nathanael> lspci
[05:25] <krazykit> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : lspci
[05:25] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I have it formatted to use a mac machine.
[05:25] <alexcamilo> sam1001: it crashed about 80% of the way through the update so i dont know. all i did after restart was apt-get check which told me to run dpkg --configure -i. if that installed the stuff that the computer didnt get to then yes
[05:25] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Thanks again
[05:25] <runes> zodo what firmware revision are you running?
[05:25] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, meaning I can't write to it ???
[05:25] <sam1001> krazykit, I plugged my usb wireless adapter in, and it was powered on, though there aren't any drivers for it
[05:25] <ThePub> silvaran:  quite positive :)  it's something I've futzed with quite a bit.  besides, by default (fresh install remember) the system doesn't setup either of those.
[05:25] <Eureka> anyone know an upload manager of megaupload
[05:26] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: shouldn't matter.  linux writes to hfs+ ok, in my experience
[05:26] <n30n> i did  a security update and now my firefix broswer is buggy
[05:26] <alexcamilo> sam1001: it wants me to restart now. so i'm rebooting.
[05:26] <ThePub> silvaran:  although I have noticed it does start the nvidia kernel module w/o asking (quite rude imo)
[05:26] <krazykit> sam1001: then use ndiswrapper with the windows drivers.
[05:26] <sam1001> alex, what do you mean crashed? didn't it have any error messages
[05:26] <runes> zodo current stable is  1007
[05:26] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, it says it requires it be a fat32 partition.
[05:26] <zodo> I'm running the latest bios.
[05:26] <sam1001> alex, what do you mean crashed?
[05:26] <zodo> And I see no issues in windows.
[05:26] <alexcamilo> sam1001: locked up mouse didnt respond.
[05:27] <runes> zodo,  what # is it reporting
[05:27] <Toran> hey guys, I'm having a problem with my ATI Radeon 9200 card. I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package and updated my xorg.conf file to use the 'fglrx' driver. After restarting X I ran 'glxinfo' to see if direct rendering is working and I saw a lot of messages like this one: "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for..." OpenOffice also doesn't work. What is going on?
[05:27] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: well, that's really not true.  i've used a mac-formatted ipod on linux before no problem.  not on ubuntu, mind you.
[05:27] <runes> zodo,  because the latest bios would be beta...not a good idea
[05:27] <Cntryboy> rune, never mind I figured it out, but once u get around to me there is something id like to ask you.
[05:27] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, does the ipod do oggs?
[05:27] <silvaran> ThePub: Quite rude indeed (btw my ping latency is high, sorry)....
[05:27] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: ahahahahhah!  no.
[05:27] <tuxtheslacker> and what program did you use?
[05:27] <zodo> Sorry rune, I'm jumping between help in #kubuntu and here.
[05:27] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: i dunno.  gtkpod, probably
[05:27] <runes> np Cntryboy I am stil fairly new but if I can't answer it I'll tell you ...
[05:28] <ThePub> silvaran:  I do use a custom xorg setup, but it works fine here.. there really isn't any reason it shouldn't work under the other kernel.
[05:28] <tuxtheslacker> gtkpod REQUIRES it be fat32.... I just checked that.
[05:28] <ThePub> silvaran:  the custom setup just defines the standard radeon multihead setup for two monitors running at 1280x1024
[05:28] <sam1001> alex, what do you mean it crashed
[05:28] <zodo> I'm pretty sure that I left off at 1007.
[05:28] <sam1001> alex, it should have some error messages
[05:29] <Mixx> I can't seem to get quake 4 to run now.  it seems to be something to do with the video driver, which appears to be installed correctly aside from a possible misconfiguration somewhere.  any suggestions?
[05:29] <silvaran> ThePub: Well there's obviously a reason why it wouldn't work, otherwise it would :).  Have you checked dmesg?
[05:29] <alexcamilo> sam1001: it didnt. it just locked up.
[05:29] <siriusnova> hey crimsun u here?
[05:29] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: i'd think not, though.  the program shouldn't care what filesystem it is, as long as it can write ok.  but gtkpod might do it funny.  iunno
[05:29] <runes> zodo,  I'm checkign the chipset to see if marvell has a linux driver posted brb
[05:29] <sam1001> alex, what about the second time you tried it in console mode
[05:29] <siriusnova> i mean crimsun_
[05:29] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, how would you check if the device is writable?
[05:29] <Cin> Anyway I can add a useful link to ubotu? For problems with 'xine could not initialize any audio drivers"
[05:30] <siriusnova> any word on the thinkpad suspend / hibernate problems?
[05:30] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: when it's mounted, at the command line, do "mount" and it should say rw if it's writeable
[05:30] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I'm able to read from it, but not write to it.
[05:30] <alexcamilo> sam1001: when i tried it in console mode i first ran apt-get check. it told me dpkg was interupted and i should run dpkg --configure -i
[05:30] <alexcamilo> i did
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: Which problems are you having specifically?
[05:30] <ThePub> silvaran:  I just don't see why it would be a module failure O.o standard ati radeon driver from the Xorg set doesn't need to interact with any of that
[05:30] <sam1001> alexcamilo, does it work now?
[05:30] <zodo> runes: I hadn't even thought of the possibility that there would be drivers other than the ones included with Dapper.  I can search for them, don't waste your time.  :)  Thanks.
[05:30] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, it says rw.
[05:30] <siriusnova> tonyarusso https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/50031
[05:30] <alexcamilo> sam1001: its restarting after update told me to restart it
[05:30] <siriusnova> its a bug that was introduced in the newest kernel update
[05:31] <alexcamilo> sam1001: i think so
[05:31] <sam1001> cool
[05:31] <siriusnova> thinkpads cant suspend or hibernate
[05:31] <alexcamilo> thanx a bunch
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: Mine just did...
[05:31] <siriusnova> i was wondering what the latest status was as crimsun was working on a patch or something
[05:31] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: then you should be able to write to it.  rhythmbox and amarok both will do ipod stuff, too
[05:31] <ThePub> silvaran:  oh well, will restart and comb through all of it again.  I've had terrible luck with Ubuntu, installs nice out of the box.. then go to upgrade and it's just a wreck usually.
[05:31] <siriusnova> tonyyarusso - what kind of thinkpad do you have?
[05:31] <Healot> !vnc
[05:31] <ubotu> from memory, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: T43.
[05:31] <sam1001> alex, usually if the update fails because of dependency issues
[05:31] <siriusnova> tonnyarusso - what kernel are u running?
[05:31] <Healot> !info x11vnc
[05:31] <ubotu> x11vnc: (VNC server which uses your current X11 session), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.1-5 (dapper), Packaged size: 318 kB, Installed size: 820 kB
[05:32] <alexcamilo> ThePub: feel ure pain. update went x.x on me
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, I'm trying ot use amarok.
[05:32] <silvaran> ThePub: I don't know enough about it, only on a high level... honestly, /var/log/X*.log would be the place to start, followed by dmesg.. the reason why I mention the kernel is that you've updated it, and the newer one doesn't work.  Keep in mind that everything has to go through the kernel, regardless whether or not everything uses some kind of proprietary driver.
[05:32] <runes> zodo it's nto a waste of time if I can help (my area is hardware, telco and networking...linux..well linux I'm stil learning)
[05:32] <siriusnova> the problem is in the newest kernel update (25)
[05:32] <siriusnova> and affects a multitude of thinkpads
[05:32] <zodo> runes: Ok, well thanks.
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> it's telling me "Could not write to /media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F01/kpod1.mp3
[05:32] <siriusnova> mine included
[05:32] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, ^^
[05:32] <krazykit> tuxtheslacker: how'd you mount the drive?  just plugging it in?
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> krazykit, yeah.
[05:33] <NthDegree> tuxtheslacker try with root permissions
[05:33] <silvaran> ThePub: While you may not be using proprietary modules or the fl? driver, there might be some agp-related driver in use that's broken WRT your setup that's causing problems.
[05:33] <runes> zodo, do you have your motherboard manual handy?
[05:33] <zodo> runes:  It mostly seems to happen during heavy duty local network transfers...I haven't tried recording web surfing in ethereal, but I haven't noticed slowdown as much during downloads.
[05:33] <sam1001> tux, have you used slack
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, try amarok or mounting?
[05:33] <zodo> runes: Can't say I do.
[05:33] <NthDegree> amarok with root permissions
[05:33] <tuxtheslacker> sam1001, yes. I'm coming from slack.
[05:33] <zodo> runes: It's the ASUS K8V-SE Deluxe.
[05:33] <runes> zodo,  most likey the debiann-ubuntu driver gives enough compatibility for it to function but like windows just enough
[05:34] <sam1001> tux, I downloaded a mini version of slack that can fit in a 256mb flash drive
[05:34] <ThePub> silvaran:  who knows :\  so much trash loaded by default in this distro, it's fairly hard to wade through all the crap to find the gems.
[05:34] <runes> got it I scrolled the lines in the chat
[05:34] <radiohead> sam1001: slax?
[05:34] <sam1001> radiohead,yes
[05:34] <Draconicus> I need to enable capture from the PCM output. How do I do this?
[05:34] <TokenBad> does ubuntu support SATA?
[05:35] <sam1001> but my P3 didn't have boot on USB option
[05:35] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Is there anything special I need to do to install madwifi on my laptop? It says make file doesnt exist
[05:35] <krazykit> TokenBad: yup
[05:35] <silvaran> ThePub: One man's trash is another's man.. oh what the heck... it's a balance between what YOU know and what everyone else knows.  Keep in mind this is not your sysadmin's distribution.  Not that that helps, but it beats the heck out of compiling everything yourself :)
[05:35] <sam1001> that's like a new option on P4s
[05:35] <tuxtheslacker> NthDegree, krazykit 'll be right back.
[05:35] <NthDegree> yes TokenBad, i have a SATA drive
[05:35] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : try ./configure or ./autogen
[05:35] <runes> zodo..most often standard harware is picked up and configured extremely well with ubuntu..after trying CentOS, Debian itself, and fedora..Ubuntu worked extremely well right off the cd..however in some cases an external driver is what you need
[05:35] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > there is not configure file
[05:35] <radiohead> autogen?
[05:35] <Nathanael> Wow - I just plugged my ipod into my Ubuntu box - Amarok picks up everything, and even downloaded the album covers!!
[05:35] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > the install just said to do make
[05:35] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > ill try autogen
[05:36] <siriusnova> Nathanael - Welcome to Ubuntu Linux :P
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> siriusnova: I still have -23 here, so I'll guess we'll see.
[05:36] <zodo> runes: Yeah, I've had to hunt down a few here and there.
[05:36] <ThePub> silvaran:  lol, I suppose :)  I still wonder why there's a laptop-mode and hotkey setup loaded by default for laptops.. or it a setup for the custom nvidia driver :)
[05:36] <radiohead> did you unarchive it all the way?
[05:36] <sam1001> anyone knows how to boot from USB on older computers?
[05:36] <silvaran> ThePub: And on the other hand, I find it rather difficult to believe there's nothing in Xorg.log* to help you out.......
[05:36] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, yes I did
[05:36] <runes> zodo..    Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit LAN controller
[05:36] <runes> LAN
[05:36] <radiohead> hmm
[05:36] <sam1001> I wanted to build a silent PC
[05:36] <sam1001> one without a hard drive
[05:36] <zodo> runes: The one time that I tried updating the windows driver, it worked for about 30 seconds on boot, then would blue screen...so I stuck with the default windows one which worked fine.
[05:37] <zodo> runes: Yeah, that's the one.
[05:37] <krazykit> sam1001: get a compact flash card and an ide converter.
[05:37] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > radiohead, I dont have the command installed
[05:37] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > It just says to do make
[05:37] <radiohead> Sir_Sid[Lappy] : I downlaoded it and got a makefile
[05:37] <runes> :-) I can read..sec...lookign up the manufacturer
[05:37] <radiohead> get the .bz2
[05:37] <radiohead> not gz
[05:37] <Sir_Sid[Lappy] > Ok
[05:37] <sam1001> thanks, let me find out the converter
[05:37] <siriusnova> tonyyarrusso - try updating to the new patch, you wont be able to suspend or hibernate properly afterwards
[05:37] <siriusnova> i had to revert back to 232
[05:37] <siriusnova> i mean 23
[05:38] <zodo> runes:  Looks like marvell lists a linux driver...but they claim kernel 2.4.* and up, which doesn't make me hopeful about it being recent.