[09:12] <rio> if you have flash plugin installed you just have to look at this, this is totally hilarious. http://youtube.com/watch?v=eXp397pEP2g&search=manson%20vs%20trump
[09:12] <roryy> swa: ah. i am green with envy. Sorry, no idea how to check that. maybe 'glxinfo' says something useful?
[09:12] <xbox_sky> Hexic.tar.gz (trying with ark GUI - kde) nothing happens for a few minutes which is weird, then ark pops up "An error occurred while trying to open the archive "
[09:13] <someoneuseless> i think SLI is more related to the chipset  then to the card driver
[09:13] <xbox_sky> i've tried to tar extract them in console mode, nothign happens
[09:13] <Tailsfan> I prefer The Clock Crew
[09:13] <KenSentMe> xbox_sky, try opening it using sudo tar -zxvf Hexic.tar.gz
[09:13] <KenSentMe> xbox_sky, sorry, too late
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> wisitvenita: I know, it's a lot.
[09:14] <Grymling> well here I am, with my disk stuffed with pics and docs in NTFS......in windows xp pro. How do I convert ?
[09:14] <roryy> or just 'gzip -tv Hexic.tar.gz' to test the gzip compression
[09:14] <mandingo> send all your stuff to a gmail account
[09:14] <mandingo> or multiple ones
[09:14] <deefzi> do i have to patch the "nvnet"-driver to my kernel in order to get my nforce2 integrated ethernet-card working or is there an option in make menuconfig, where i could toggle it on?
[09:15] <Doomhammer> so who's using dapper ?
[09:15] <kevinz> how to solve partition problems under linux generally?
[09:15] <xbox_sky> gzip: Hexic.tar.gz: not in gzip format
[09:15] <roryy> Doomhammer: people in #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <Tailsfan> Doom, Please discuss DD in #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> wisitvenita: I *think* it boils down to something along the lines of 'wget --force-html --no-check-certificate --convert-links --mirror https://wiki.ubuntu.com', but I'd have to read through all of that to be sure that's what worked.
[09:15] <Doomhammer> ah right... sorry :)
[09:15] <Sionide> +1 heh
[09:15] <_jason> xbox_sky: then it's not in gzip format
[09:15] <roryy> xbox_sky: how did you transfer the file? command-line ftp client?
[09:15] <xbox_sky> no a GUI ftp - gftp
[09:16] <_jason> there must be some option for the transfer mode
[09:16] <xbox_sky> evry other file works, except these 2 big tar files
[09:16] <Grymling> mandingo. I have about 800Gb of familypics
[09:16] <method|> hwo can I change the login screen in gnome?
[09:16] <roryy> xbox_sky: did these other files include smaller tar.gz files ?
[09:16] <xbox_sky> both of them are in x.tar.gz
[09:16] <dendrobates> hi ppl
[09:16] <dendrobates> respect
[09:16] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, respect 2 u 2 man
[09:17] <mandingo> how the hell do you have 800G of family photos
[09:17] <mandingo> thats insane
[09:17] <xbox_sky> rory, my other hdd had 3 folders with several tar files  and 2 big tar files outside the folder location
[09:17] <method|> how can I change the login screen in gnome?
[09:17] <KenSentMe> how big is your family ?
[09:17] <dendrobates> can anyone tell me about a WiFi PCMCIA card?
[09:17] <mandingo> big.
[09:17] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, what do you want to know?
[09:17] <Grymling> *L* that would be Mb sorry
[09:17] <KenSentMe> Grymling, lol
[09:17] <roryy> xbox_sky: i'd suggest try transferring the files again
[09:18] <dendrobates> a tested model on Ubuntu
[09:18] <Grymling> talk about THE familyman
[09:18] <xbox_sky> ok
[09:18] <roryy> xbox_sky: are both machines running ubuntu?
[09:18] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, i'm using a wireless pcmcia card right now
[09:18] <mandingo> dude, send your files to gmail
[09:19] <xbox_sky> rory the other hdd was an external one, no os specified
[09:19] <mandingo> thats 2.7G of space that will basically always be there
[09:19] <xbox_sky> 20 seconds remaining until first tar is on my pc hdd
[09:19] <roryy> xbox_sky: but you ftp'ed to a computer ... ?
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> I need help fixing X.  I have some xorg.conf backups that will fail completely, some that will start, but give hashed, fuzzy, out of sync, useless display, and one that will show up fine but lock up if I try to switch to console.
[09:19] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, can u give me the model and manufacturer?
[09:19] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, the manufacturer is asus
[09:19] <dendrobates> asus, very nice
[09:20] <xbox_sky> roryy, yeah sort of, but nvm that, trust me this "hdd" can store different files despite os restrictions
[09:20] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, model can't see, unless i take it out and loose my connenction :p
[09:20] <kevor> Hi, how can i mount an ftpdrive? tried lufs ( lufsmount ftpfs://site.com destdir/ ) but that's not working
[09:20] <supertux> is there an expected date for flight 7?
[09:20] <xbox_sky> ok i'm trying to open up the first tar
[09:20] <KenSentMe> it's the model that advertises for using linux drivers
[09:20] <EnterUserName> Is Gigabyte better than asus :)
[09:20] <roryy> tonyyarusso: you're aware of 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[09:21] <EnterUserName> i think the best ubuntu sudo command is the following
[09:21] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, no problem dont go down
[09:21] <EnterUserName> sudo bash
[09:21] <xbox_sky> same thing "An error occurred while trying to open the archive "
[09:21] <apoc> can anyone help me install wine?
[09:21] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, WL-107g
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Yep.  Been through it at least a dozen times - never produces something that works.
[09:21] <roryy> tonyyarusso: d'oh
[09:21] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, http://www.asus.nl/products4.aspx?l1=12&l2=42&l3=135&model=52&modelmenu=1
[09:21] <katz0r> hi all, is there a guide on crosscompiling gtk(mm) apps for win?
[09:21] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, dutch website
[09:22] <dendrobates> hmmm you r very kind, KenSentMe
[09:22] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, i know :p
[09:22] <EnterUserName> sudo bash is just like loggin in as root :)
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> roryy: That was pretty much my sentiment.
[09:22] <p47> Hello someone kwnos how to install AA in  X Radeon?
[09:22] <roryy> EnterUserName: we recommend 'sudo -i' instead
[09:22] <EnterUserName> hmm
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> roryy: How could an xorg.conf that worked before not work now?  I copied back in the most recent backup, and nothing.
[09:23] <EnterUserName> whats sudo -i.. i'll look into th at :)
[09:23] <xbox_sky> is there a way to force mode something so I can view/extract my tar files?
[09:23] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, sorry I m redundant today
[09:23] <katz0r> p47, jou should be fine with just using the installer
[09:23] <EnterUserName> its not in the man page
[09:23] <stefano> come faccio ad installare uno scanner mustek u
[09:23] <EnterUserName> whats sudo -i?
[09:24] <_jason> EnterUserName: it's there (in man sudo) :)
[09:24] <trappist> EnterUserName: it's there
[09:24] <trappist> right after -h
[09:24] <EnterUserName> maybe mins old
[09:24] <roryy> tonyyarusso: (1) something else changed, or (2) it's not the file that worked before.  Computers aren't magic ;).  Sorry, I know I'm not helping.
[09:24] <mabus06> can somebody help me get my microphone working? I turned up the volume and unmuted capture, but it still isn't making a sound. The same mic has worked on ubuntu before.
[09:24] <katz0r> is there a guide on crosscompiling gtk(mm) apps for win?
[09:24] <_jason> EnterUserName: type /-i and press enter followed by n
[09:24] <mandingo> try file ****.tar.gz
[09:24] <mandingo> on the filename
[09:24] <EnterUserName> yes i did
[09:24] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, are you working on Ubuntu?
[09:25] <roryy> -i is a little new; I know my older redhat box doesn't have 'sudo -i'
[09:25] <EnterUserName> im using an old version im updating now..
[09:25] <_jason> ah
[09:25] <EnterUserName> I'm not using ubuntu :)
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Do you at least have a clue what part might be wrong in the ones that produce the funny hashed display, but at least starts?  I can't see anything, but it comes up, so maybe I can work from there.
[09:25] <EnterUserName> i use it at work now (they decided to go to the dark side)
[09:25] <EnterUserName> heheh
[09:25] <_jason> EnterUserName: debian?
[09:25] <EnterUserName> no
[09:25] <EnterUserName> ubuntu
[09:25] <EnterUserName> is the dark side :)
[09:25] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, Red Hat?
[09:25] <_jason> EnterUserName: no, I meant what are you using now?
[09:25] <trappist> EnterUserName: information like that would be appreciated up front, before we waste a lot of time tracking down non-ubuntu issues
[09:25] <EnterUserName> oh sorry :)
[09:25] <EnterUserName> well it wasnt an issue
[09:26] <EnterUserName> it was more of a comment :)
[09:26] <roryy> tonyyarusso: hrm. sorry, no.  You've looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:26] <EnterUserName> I use Gentoo/ARchLinux/Suse
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Good point, no.
[09:26] <EnterUserName> I don't know ubuntu enuff yet to say if its better :)
[09:26] <xbox_sky> can i convert tar to something else like rar?
[09:26] <mandingo> xbox_sky: did you get the file to open?
[09:26] <trappist> xbox_sky: not without untarring it
[09:26] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, i didn't use the included drivers, ubuntu recognised the card immediately
[09:26] <fraxtal> I have had ubuntu installed for 2 days and I managed to screw it up already
[09:26] <p47> someone kwos someting about antileasing on ATI ?
[09:26] <dendrobates> gk, SuSe is ok for this WL-
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Oh my that's a long file!
[09:27] <trappist> p47: you mean antialiasing?
[09:27] <xbox_sky> mandingo, nope same error, I seee trappist
[09:27] <mandingo> did you try what i said?
[09:27] <mandingo> type file and the filename
[09:27] <roryy> tonyyarusso: yeah. Errors and warnings are specially marked, though; (EE) and (WW) iirc
[09:27] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, by seeing red hat i thought, ok this works in linux
[09:27] <mandingo> it will tell you what the file is
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Grepping now, cap'n.
[09:27] <mandingo> file camo.png
[09:27] <mandingo> camo.png: PNG image data, 256 x 256, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced
[09:28] <xbox_sky> mandingo
[09:28] <xbox_sky> back.tar.gz: data
[09:28] <xbox_sky> that's what file said
[09:28] <mandingo> hm
[09:28] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, respect man
[09:28] <dendrobates> thanks a lot
[09:28] <p47> trappist: yes antialiasing !
[09:28] <mandingo> are there md5sums available on the server you got the file from?
[09:28] <dwight> anyone know where i can find a delicious extension/plugin for epiphany-browser?
[09:28] <p47> trappist: do you know someting about that ?
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Lots of warnings.
[09:29] <dendrobates> e-mail me when you come to CH<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:29] <trappist> p47: no
[09:29] <dendrobates> KenSentMe
[09:29] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, yes
[09:29] <mwe> roryy: in that case sudo su works
[09:29] <p47> trappist: mm Ok Thank's !
[09:29] <dendrobates> where are you now?
[09:29] <dendrobates> KenSentMe
[09:29] <roryy> mwe: for 'sudo -i' ? I believe (though I may be wrong) that there are differences
[09:29] <Obst> warthy hoary breezy -whats the difference?
[09:30] <xbox_sky> mandingo nope, I tar'd the files my self, for backup purpose, and now when I want to ftp to my pc, well you know the rest
[09:30] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, what do you mean?
[09:30] <EnterUserName> sudo su works
[09:30] <EnterUserName> kewl :)
[09:30] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, at home, in the netherlands
[09:30] <dendrobates> are u in nl?
[09:30] <mwe> roryy: there is not. sudo -s resembles sudo su. sudo -i resembles sudo su -
[09:30] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, yes
[09:30] <mandingo> so they're store on your other machine?
[09:30] <mandingo> can that machine open the files?
[09:30] <dendrobates> ok man c ya
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> roryy: I'll pastebin it as soon as I can get it retyped.
[09:31] <mwe> roryy: sudo su - will give you a root prompt and read roots configuration as will sudo -i
[09:31] <xbox_sky> mandingo sorry no
[09:31] <apoc> can anyone help me install wine?
[09:31] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, you know where i live then? :)
[09:31] <mwe> apoc: sudo apt-get install wine
[09:31] <roryy> mwe: thanks, i'll remember that.  Hopefully that old box will be retired soonish anyway ;)
[09:32] <root_> what is the dapper channel ?
[09:32] <mwe> apoc: be awere that only a tiny fraction of all windows programs actually works though
[09:32] <KenSentMe> root_, ubuntu+1
[09:32] <kevinz> i get error from "fdisk -l" as "Partition N does not end on cylinder boundary." Am I hopeless ...?
[09:32] <root_> hmm.. root_ doesn't reveal too much I hope :))
[09:32] <apoc> mwe: wat works?
[09:32] <KenSentMe> root_, sorry, wrong info
[09:33] <xbox_sky> I have windows on vmware, should I try to view tar on windows 2000 (vmware)?
[09:33] <mwe> apoc: notepad for example
[09:33] <patrick52222> i need to enable tvout so i can use my projector how do i do this its a nvidia card
[09:34] <dendrobates> KenSentMe, nl, not anymore
[09:34] <KenSentMe> dendrobates, ah, k
[09:35] <patrick52222> i need an easy way to enable tvout, im using the drivers off the nvidia site
[09:35] <john__> is there an easy install for vpn in ubuntu?  I am running it in a virtual machine right now, but do not see vpn support...
[09:35] <EnterUserName> hey is there a UBuntu Certification from LPI?
[09:35] <EnterUserName> Or is it totally seperatE?
[09:35] <mwe> apoc: frankscorner.org has some examples as well. most of those programs need a specific version of wine though
[09:36] <asdf25> so i just installed a lot of KDE stuff, and now i'm using GNOME and GTK has a kde-ish theme, anyone know what i do to change that back?
[09:36] <xbox_sky> mandingo any ideas dude :/ ?
[09:36] <apoc> mwe: how do i run it?
[09:36] <mwe> apoc: wine notepad.exe
[09:36] <mwe> apoc: in a terminal
[09:36] <mandingo> well, i'd make sure all the bits were transfered and you did it in binary
[09:36] <else> can anyone help me with wine?
[09:37] <patrick52222> anybody
[09:37] <mwe> apoc: or wine whatever.exe
[09:37] <john__> vpn in ubuntu, how?
[09:37] <KenSentMe> when i configure my server on a pentium 3 machine, is it possible to use this hd in an other machine with amd proc?
[09:37] <Jimmey__> My problem is: I can't get ET to work all that nicely on an intel 855GM graphics chipset. Something to do with the resolution.
[09:37] <john__> anyone know?
[09:37] <Springishere> gotta go to the directory through terminal wine dude
[09:37] <xbox_sky> mandingo how do I do that if I might ask?
[09:37] <patrick52222> anybody
[09:37] <else> can anyone help me with wine?
[09:37] <mwe> else: possibly if you tell us what the problem is
[09:37] <patrick52222> i need an easy way to enable tvout, im using the drivers off the nvidia site
[09:37] <KenSentMe> john__, check wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:37] <mwe> else: possibly if you tell us what the problem is
[09:37] <KenSentMe> john__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenVPNClientMiniHowto
[09:37] <mandingo> uh, make sure the filesize on disk is exactly the same
[09:37] <else> well, i got wine installed just fine, but when i try to run an app i just get a black screen
[09:38] <john__> thanks, kensetme
[09:38] <xbox_sky> they are
[09:38] <Springishere> hmmm
[09:38] <Springishere> which wine?
[09:38] <mwe> else: most programs don't work with wine
[09:38] <mandingo> and get an md5 sum app for windows if they're stored on windows
[09:38] <mandingo> brb
[09:38] <pashminet> Double_D!!
[09:38] <Springishere> md5 sum app?
[09:38] <else> hmm
[09:38] <Jimmey__> How can I fiddle with X to change the resolution, so that I might possible be able to play this game?
[09:38] <jenda> mwe: depends on teh brand and amount of wine, but my experience says that after about half a bottle or more, no program works fine except teh screensaver
[09:38] <else> but still
[09:38] <wisitvenita> wisitvenita
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> roryy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12109 - could you take a look?
[09:39] <Springishere> my xwine crashes everytime i try to run a program
[09:39] <mwe> else: what program is it?
[09:39] <else> i suspect the rpoblem is me not knowing how to set it up proberly
[09:39] <roryy> tonyyarusso: i hope you are not perceiving me as an X guru. i'll take a look, but promise nothing.
[09:39] <else> ufo gold :)
[09:39] <pashminet> ok, could someone please explain why the live cd doesn't boot in my computer?
[09:39] <Double_D> pashminet: i thougth of something else, actually.
[09:39] <K-Rich> hey guys, i hooked my sis up with ubuntu, she likes it better than windows (yay) but... when she starts evolution the wizard pops up but she can't hit next on the first screen, it freezes, i had her reinstall it with apt-get, and had her rm -rf ~/.evolution then shutdown gconftool and rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution, then had her remove evolution-exchance and it still doesn't work after loging out and back in .... here is what debug info is http://past
[09:40] <tobywuk> hello
[09:40] <Double_D> pashminet: some of those CD burning programs require that specify you're burning a boot disc.
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Well, you're all I've got at the moment it seems.
[09:40] <pashminet> Double_D: i never thought of that!!!
[09:40] <john__> does ubuntu have a cross platform remote desktop, like vnc or radmin?
[09:40] <KenSentMe> does anyone know if a can use a system set up in a pentium system in a amd machine?
[09:40] <mwe> else: a game?
[09:40] <mlehrer> you mean like apt-get install vlc
[09:40] <Double_D> pashminet: like in Nero, for instance, you would actually have to burn a 'boot disc' rather than just a 'data disc.'
[09:40] <roryy> tonyyarusso: did X ever work properly? i.e., pre fglrx driver installation?
[09:40] <else> mwe: yes
[09:40] <Double_D> pashminet: hope that'll do the trick.
[09:40] <Springishere> Which is the best Linux version?
[09:40] <mlehrer> KenSentMe: it should work fine, especially if it is an amd64
[09:40] <pashminet> Double_D: i love you! now i will try! thanks!
[09:40] <mwe> else: very few games work with wine
[09:40] <mlehrer> Springishere: caldera linux
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> roryy: It has in the past worked with all three drivers, ati, radeon, and fglrx.  But now none of those xorg.confs seem to work.
[09:41] <Springishere> ok
[09:41] <ompaul> mlehrer, now do that again, this time without the joke
[09:41] <Double_D> pashminet: i aim to please :D
[09:41] <mlehrer> Springishere: just kidding
[09:41] <Springishere> ...
[09:41] <Springishere> evil...
[09:41] <KenSentMe> mlehrer, ah, cool that way i can keep my current mailserver running
[09:41] <bheung> Springishere: what do you want to do with linux?
[09:41] <else> mwe: ok :C
[09:41] <mlehrer> if you are asking in the Ubuntu channel, of course the answer will be ubuntu
[09:42] <Springishere> Just user friendly, and programming
[09:42] <mwe> else: check out frankscorner.org
[09:42] <ompaul> Springishere, you are in a #ubuntu channel so tell me what do you expect?
[09:42] <Springishere> lol
[09:42] <Springishere> true...
[09:42] <else> ok will do.
[09:42] <roryy> tonyyarusso: any possiblity of a hardware bug? dust collecting in connectors etc ?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> roryy: Maybe?  It worked earlier today.
[09:43] <john__> does ubuntu have a cross platform remote desktop, like vnc or radmin?
[09:43] <void^> more likely fglrx infestation of xorg libs.
[09:43] <K-Rich> hey guys, i hooked my sis up with ubuntu, she likes it better than windows (yay) but... when she starts evolution the wizard pops up but she can't hit next on the first screen, it freezes, i had her reinstall it with apt-get, and had her rm -rf ~/.evolution then shutdown gconftool and rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution, then had her remove evolution-exchance and it still doesn't work after loging out and back in .... here is what debug info is http://past
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> void^: Can you expand on that at all?
[09:44] <void^> ati replaces libGL.so with their own version
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> void^: Do you know a fix?
[09:44] <spinelli> What is grub error 2?
[09:44] <void^> see if gl and dri extensions are disabled in your conf
[09:44] <else> mwe: i see there is a list of the games actually working....bummer, thought is was a little more flexible :\
[09:45] <john__> does ubuntu have a cross platform remote desktop, like vnc or radmin?
[09:45] <void^> john__: vnc, nx, rdesktop client
[09:45] <mwe> else: unfortunately not. and most require that you install a specific version of wine
[09:46] <john__> how to get?  sudo apt-get install vnc ?
[09:46] <else> mwe: ok, thx for the help.
[09:46] <mwe> else: yw
[09:46] <void^> void^: you can also use an X server on windows (cygwin) and remote in with it
[09:46] <mlehrer> john__: i am not sure which area has vnc, but you may have to enable the universe or multiverse
[09:46] <void^> eh, john__
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> void^: I don't think I know how to do that - how can I check those extensions?
[09:47] <skpl> can someone tell me where icon themes are saved?
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> void^: Can I replace that file with the original by reinstalling something?
[09:47] <spinelli> Does anyone know what grub error 2 means?
[09:47] <patrick52222> i have the nvidia site drivers, but i need to setup tvout how do i do this
[09:47] <asdf25> skpl: somewhere in /usr/share/themes probably
[09:47] <swa> noob question:  how do I install *.deb files?
[09:48] <void^> tonyyarusso: i just mean it might help to comment out 'Load "glx"' and 'Load "dri"' in your xorg.conf
[09:48] <asdf25> swa: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[09:48] <swa> asdf25, thanks
[09:48] <Slagerij> dpkg
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> void^: Ah.  What are those, and what are they for?  Is there any way to revert so I can use them okay?
[09:49] <roryy> patrick52222: google reveals this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaTVOut
[09:49] <KenSentMe> spinelli, use google: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html
[09:49] <spinelli> thanks
[09:49] <KenSentMe> spinelli, np
[09:49] <PhantZ> incroyable le monde qu il y a ici
[09:50] <K-Rich> hey guys, i hooked my sis up with ubuntu, she likes it better than windows (yay) but... when she starts evolution the wizard pops up but she can't hit next on the first screen, it freezes, i had her reinstall it with apt-get, and had her rm -rf ~/.evolution then shutdown gconftool and rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution, then had her remove evolution-exchance and it still doesn't work after loging out and back in .... here is what debug info is http://past
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> void^: not that simple apparently.
[09:50] <PhanteZ> this is unbelievable how much many people are ther
[09:50] <PhanteZ> e
[09:50] <jadacyrus> K-Rich: did u try runnin evolution from console to see if it spits anything out
[09:50] <cycus_zwisus> which debian in some way better than ubuntu?
[09:50] <skpl> can someone tell me where icon themes are saved?
[09:51] <K-Rich> jadacyrus: yeah.... nothing
[09:51] <jadacyrus> hmm
[09:51] <BlueSwirl> k-rich: have you tried using thunderbird instead? not a solution, i know.
[09:51] <jadacyrus> well i dont use evolution, im a thunderbird man myself
[09:51] <K-Rich> jadacyrus: i've tried all i can think of :/
[09:51] <jadacyrus> heh
[09:51] <jadacyrus> try running as root and see what happens
[09:51] <BuFF> where is the default folder gor installing gnome-themes ?
[09:51] <CosmoDad> K-Rich: did you check bug reports?
[09:51] <jonathanD_> hello, anyone know how to change the settings on the built in vnc server? i'm trying to open a port on my router to allow me to connect remotely... thanks...
[09:52] <K-Rich> BlueSwirl: that's my next option if i can't get it working.... only issue is she needs a calander
[09:52] <bheung> skpl: /usr/share/icons
[09:52] <jadacyrus> ah
[09:52] <jonathanD_> i would prefer to have this running on port 5900
[09:52] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: yeah, didn't see anything
[09:52] <BlueSwirl> hmm, that is awkward, sunbird isn't really up to scratch at the mo.
[09:52] <K-Rich> BlueSwirl: and i don't think it's in the repos either
[09:53] <jadacyrus> k-rich, you are using breezy i presume?
[09:53] <skpl> can someone tell me why i might have an icon theme installed but it not be in the theme directories?
[09:53] <MystaMax> hello!
[09:53] <K-Rich> jadacyrus: Yeah
[09:53] <BlueSwirl> i installed thunderbird on my ubuntu machine, just using 'add applications'
[09:53] <Rews> hi
[09:53] <Rews> i'm a linux noob
[09:53] <fraxtal> I have added a new group called "subversion".  I added my user to the group.  When I type "groups user" it tells me that the user was added to the group, but when I type "groups" as user, it doesn't show up.  Can anyone tell me what's going on?
[09:54] <Rews> how do we searcch for a file on ubuntu?
[09:54] <K-Rich> fraxtal: did you log out and in again
[09:54] <mwe> Rews: use locate or find in the terminal
[09:54] <CosmoDad> K-Rich: I'd download from source, compile and try that
[09:54] <K-Rich> Rews: Places > Search for file
[09:54] <bheung> skpl: if you installed a deb package, you could always check to see where the files were put
[09:54] <asdf25> Rews: there's also a good GNOME search thing
[09:54] <CosmoDad> K-Rich: or run strace on evolution
[09:54] <K-Rich> Rews: or from terminal 'locate file'
[09:54] <fraxtal> hmm let me try
[09:54] <asdf25> Rews: yep, what that guy said
[09:55] <Rews> ok, i am on the root directory, i type find sources.list
[09:55] <ompaul> Rews, in many different ways, there is a terminal based command called locate there is also a command called find, and there is a program called beagal
[09:55] <Rews> No such file or directory
[09:55] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: will do that when i get there... i'm 22 miles away trying to help lol
[09:55] <CosmoDad> K-Rich: use ssh ;)
[09:55] <KenSentMe> Rews, try locate sources.list
[09:55] <asdf25> is there any reason to use find instead of locate?
[09:55] <ompaul> Rews,  woops  beagal not that but beagle actually
[09:55] <Rews> ok it worked ;)
[09:55] <Rews> thx
[09:55] <mwe> Rews: find / -name 'sources.list' but locate is way faster
[09:55] <Rews> oh ok i see
[09:56] <MystaMax> can you use wildcards in those searches?
[09:56] <asdf25> yeah, find's kind of too slow to be of any use
[09:56] <Rews> i knew i was missing something
[09:56] <mabus06> can somebody help me get my microphone working? I turned up the volume and unmuted capture, but it still isn't making a sound. The same mic has worked on ubuntu before.
[09:56] <CosmoDad> asdf25: find is independent of a database but slower
[09:56] <mwe> Rews: the locate database is only updated once a day though
[09:56] <Rews> ok
[09:56] <CosmoDad> asdf25: waaaaay slower
[09:56] <lamego> is there a channel for dapper support ?
[09:56] <Rews> locate updatedb ?
[09:56] <ompaul> Rews, if you just created the file then you need to update the database
[09:56] <fraxtal> K-Rich, ok that worked.  Is there no other way to do it though?
[09:56] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: good idea
[09:56] <mwe> Rews: so things you just installed wont be found by locate
[09:56] <BlueSwirl> can you manually update the database for locate?
[09:56] <Rews> locate updatedb ?
[09:56] <asdf25> locate -u i think?
[09:56] <BlueSwirl> shiny
[09:56] <ompaul> lamego, ubuntu+1
[09:57] <ompaul> Rews, sudo updatedb << to update the db
[09:57] <xbox_sky> ok tx for your help mandingo and evryone else
[09:57] <skpl> bheung, how do i do that?
[09:57] <MystaMax> anyone using vsftp? if so is it any better than proftpd?
[09:57] <K-Rich> fraxtal: not that i know of
[09:57] <fraxtal> ok thanks
[09:58] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: how can i save the strace evolution results to a file ?
[09:58] <mwe> MystaMax: proftpd is a tough competitor
[09:58] <mwe> MystaMax: don't really know vsftp though
[09:58] <rohan> is there some kind of an "extras" disc that has codecs, ff, and other stuff from it ? kind of like all the stuff automatix installs, available on a cdrom
[09:58] <MystaMax> i wanted to use proftp b/c I found a administration GUI that i could install to manage it
[09:58] <rohan> for breezy ofcourse
[09:59] <K-Rich> CosmoDad: mn i got it
[09:59] <mwe> MystaMax: proftpd is of industrial strength
[09:59] <skpl> MystaMax, what is it called?
[09:59] <bheung> skpl: the easiest way I know, is to open up Synaptic (System -> Administration -> Synaptic) and then find that package... right click and look at the properties
[09:59] <ompaul> !automatix
[09:59] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:59] <ompaul> rohan   ^^^^
[09:59] <bheung> skpl: there might be a command line way too..
[09:59] <MystaMax> hold on let me double check th name
[09:59] <jay_> hi
[09:59] <jay_> im an indian from malaysia
[09:59] <skpl> bheung, actually, even though the icon theme was called debian icons i do not think it was a deb package.
[09:59] <rohan> ompaul: yes, i know automatix breaks boxes. i want to have all the _packages_ it installs from ubuntus own repo, on a iso
[09:59] <rohan> so that on all pcs i put kubuntu / ubuntu disc and the extras disc
[10:00] <rohan> install stuff
[10:00] <rohan> be done
[10:00] <method|> when I try to run gdmsetup i get the following error: Could not access GDM configuration file.
[10:00] <bheung> skpl: how did you install it?/
[10:00] <KenSentMe> i've installed automatix and it workes great on 2 different machines
[10:00] <method|> when i do locate gdm.conf it returns nothing
[10:00] <ompaul> rohan, read the web page wiki.ubuntu.com/restricted and then also /msg ubotu KeyWord and you will get lots of other info
[10:00] <skpl> bheung, from a tarball
[10:00] <bheung> oh
[10:00] <pierre__> bonsoir
[10:00] <rohan> ompaul: i *know* all that, i have been a kubuntu user for a long time ! i am looking for a pre build iso
[10:01] <jay_> hi
[10:01] <ompaul> rohan, then I would use the web pages to find the stuff you want and then script up some config stuff and then lastly save off the .debs and stuff to one site :-)
[10:02] <dwight> anyone know where i can find a delicious extension/plugin for epiphany-browser?
[10:02] <ompaul> rohan, and no I don't know whats in that piece of box breaking
[10:02] <rohan> ompaul: hehe yes, i want someone that has done that already
[10:02] <MystaMax>  skpl: here is the link to the proftp GUI admin
[10:02] <MystaMax> http://proftpd-adm.sourceforge.net
[10:02] <ompaul> rohan, have a look at #easyubuntu might be easy on your brain
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Did rorry go away?
[10:02] <ompaul> !fr
[10:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:02] <ompaul> pierre__, ^^^^
[10:03] <Rews> how do we update ubuntu plz?
[10:03] <Yokalosh> anyone know how to downgrade? i just noticed a whole bunch of errors while upgrading to dapper
[10:03] <Rews> i thought it was apt-get install update
[10:03] <ompaul> Rews, so it is
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> Old Windows habits worked out.  A reboot made my X work.  Go figure.  :S
[10:03] <Rews> it did not tell me that there wher new packets
[10:03] <ompaul> Rews, then sudo apt-get upgrade (and use sudo with the other one)
[10:03] <mwe> MystaMax: did you check out gproftpd as well?
[10:03] <Rews> upgrade...that's it
[10:03] <Rews> thx ;)
[10:04] <MystaMax> mwe: not yet is it in the repositories?
[10:04] <mwe> MystaMax: yeah
[10:04] <Jimmey__> How do I use 855resolution
[10:04] <mwe> MystaMax: in universe
[10:04] <MystaMax> k thanks, i'm looking it up now
[10:05] <skpl> where is a good place to store programs that i install?
[10:05] <skpl> im new to linux, i dunno
[10:05] <KenSentMe> mwe, is it a webbased proftpd admin tool?
[10:05] <MystaMax> kensenme: no its not
[10:06] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, what is it then?
[10:06] <skpl> where is a good place to store programs that i install?
[10:06] <MystaMax> a gnome frontend
[10:06] <mwe> Knorrie: gproftpd? it's gtk+
[10:06] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, ah, k
[10:06] <eml> aint there Eterm for download? oO
[10:06] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, have u tried proftpd-adm?
[10:07] <MystaMax> nope
[10:07] <MystaMax> whats that?
[10:07] <MystaMax> whats the adm?
[10:07] <mabus06> can somebody help me get my microphone working? I turned up the volume and unmuted capture, but it still isn't making a sound. The same mic has worked on ubuntu before.
[10:07] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, you just provided the url
[10:07] <Chocobo> Ok guys.   A friend has a dual boot laptop (Win/Linux) and he wants to make the linux partition bigger.   Using QTparted we shrunk the Windows partition...  but it won't let us "grow" the ext3 filesystem.   Any ideas?
[10:07] <mwe> skpl: most programs will install to some default place in /usr/local or something. keep your personal stuff in ~/bin maybe
[10:07] <MystaMax> oh oh
[10:07] <MystaMax> Kensentme: oh you mean the admin tool
[10:08] <KenSentMe> yeah
[10:08] <skpl> mwe: no ~/bin does not sound good to me
[10:08] <skpl> something else?
[10:08] <MystaMax> not yet, its looking like that'll be my primary choice though
[10:08] <lamego> ChangerOfSea, you can't shrink a partition if it is mounted
[10:08] <ompaul> skpl, well if you do it the easy way you will just install packages
[10:08] <mwe> skpl: why not it's standard
[10:08] <lamego> i mean Chocobo you can't shrink a partition if it is mounted
[10:08] <skpl> mwe: how standard is it? like...VERY standard?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i wonder if i can configure a decent proftpd-mysql set up with it
[10:08] <Chocobo> lamego, they are not mounted.   Using a livecd.
[10:08] <eml> wth, is there any other terminal  than GNOME terminal?
[10:08] <lamego> hum ok :|
[10:08] <KenSentMe> mine stinks right now
[10:08] <mwe> skpl: very common yes
[10:08] <MystaMax> i found a really good tutorial if you want a link
[10:08] <skpl> ok then i will use it
[10:08] <lamego> emile, xterm
[10:09] <mwe> skpl: not if you need it system wide of course
[10:09] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i used one, but it doesn't work that well
[10:09] <eml> lamego, any good one? :/ xterm is nono too, either aterm or eterm, i think its a shame that they are not in the sources.list
[10:09] <skpl> nah, it is just a little program that i am gonna use at startup
[10:09] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, what tutorial habe u got?
[10:09] <skpl> an ip redirection update client
[10:09] <Snake__> What are some good blue themes for gnome?
[10:09] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, habe = have
[10:10] <mwe> skpl: well I don't think system programs like boot up scripts belong in ~/bin
[10:10] <lamego> emile, do you have universe/multiverse sources enabled ?
[10:10] <skpl> well the script will go in /etc/init.d, but the program will probably stay in my home dir
[10:10] <mwe> skpl: in that case /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin I'd say
[10:10] <MystaMax> kensentme: what type
[10:10] <lamego> there is aterm and eterm on the apt repos
[10:10] <skpl> mwe: what is the difference between the two?
[10:10] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i used one for my debian system
[10:11] <mwe> skpl: sbin is usually for priviledged programs
[10:11] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, http://www.howtoforge.com/proftpd_mysql_virtual_hosting
[10:11] <mwe> skpl: that can't be run by normal users or only partly works for non priviledged users
[10:11] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i could be my fault, but the users don't work properly
[10:12] <mwe> skpl: I'd say a boot script should not access home directories of a specific user
[10:12] <skpl> mwe: unfortunately the archive manager will not allow me to extract to /usr/local/bin
[10:12] <johnny3d> $/file/to/play/ is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[10:12] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, give me your link
[10:12] <skpl> mwe: why not?
[10:12] <MystaMax> its the same one
[10:12] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, ah, k
[10:12] <mwe> skpl: because you shouldn't mix users and the system
[10:12] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, have u tried it?
[10:12] <bluecookies> hi _jason
[10:12] <MystaMax> not yet
[10:13] <MystaMax> just read it today
[10:13] <skpl> mwe: why not?
[10:13] <bluecookies> hi everyone
[10:13] <johnny3d> how do i change from uid 1000 to uid 0?
[10:13] <MystaMax> hi
[10:13] <bluecookies> pls hlp me
[10:13] <mwe> skpl: well because by convention users are not are allowed to tamper with the system
[10:13] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, i want to reinstall my web/mail/ftp-server and then try this tutorial again
[10:14] <mwe> skpl: do what like though. it's your systen
[10:14] <mwe> system*
[10:14] <bluecookies> can i upgrade kubuntu 5.10 with kde 4
[10:14] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, but i have to wait until i have a computer left
[10:14] <ubuntu> right i was editing xorg, now i cant login wat do i do
[10:14] <mwe> bluecookies: is that even released yet?
[10:14] <MystaMax> yea, i've got tons of computers to play w/ at work
[10:14] <bluecookies> ok, how about kde 3.5
[10:15] <mwe> bluecookies: yeah you can
[10:15] <bluecookies> can i ?
[10:15] <bluecookies> how?
[10:15] <mwe> bluecookies: kubuntu.org lists a mirror you can use to get kde 3.5
[10:15] <ubuntu> right i was editing xorg, now i cant login wat do i do
[10:15] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, got three at home, but they're all in use
[10:15] <bluecookies> i'll try, thanks  mwe
[10:15] <skpl> can someone tell me how to enable the make command on my system?
[10:16] <KenSentMe> skpl, sudo apt-get install make ?
[10:16] <mwe> bluecookies: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main
[10:16] <skpl> KenSentMe, is the make command the same as make install or do i need to install that too?
[10:17] <KenSentMe> skpl, good question, i don't know that much about make
[10:17] <Slagerij>   if you were editing xorg.conf, i think you can do Xorg -configure to recreate the xorg.conf file
[10:17] <mwe> skpl: for esay removal of programs, use checkinstall to install it
[10:17] <ubuntu> helllllllllllllllllp
[10:17] <ubuntu> right i was editing xorg, now i cant login wat do i do
[10:17] <Slagerij> although I always backup xorg.conf before tweaking it
[10:17] <mwe> skpl: some programs don't provide easy uninstallation
[10:17] <mwe> skpl: or require that you keep the source to do it
[10:17] <skpl> mwe: im following the instructions of the program i downloaded, i do not know much about linux
[10:18] <skpl> i do not have the checkinstall command however
[10:18] <keithalexander> I am trying to troubleshoot a friend on ubuntu. He is compiling from source, but he gets command not found. Doesn't ubuntu come with make?
[10:18] <mwe> skpl: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[10:18] <bheung> skpl: i would do a "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[10:18] <dn4> ubuntu vs debian which one is better?
[10:18] <mwe> skpl: then sudo checkinstall instead of sudo make install. easy
[10:18] <skpl> bheung, ok
[10:18] <Cooner750> Why when I go to Network is it trying to connect to itself?
[10:18] <bheung> skpl: it installs the compiler, and other build tools
[10:19] <earthen> could someone help me with a printer problem? some programs can print while others can't adobe acrobat and abiword can print but OO.org and firefox can't?
[10:19] <Entwine>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 19871987
[10:19] <Slagerij> ouch
[10:19] <Kyral> oops...
[10:19] <Kyral> lol
[10:19] <Entwine> :)
[10:19] <mwe> earthen: can't you choose the printer to use in the print dialog?
[10:20] <sfar> Entwine: lets not hope your root password is the same as your nickserv password.. might be evil people in here :D
[10:20] <mwe> Entwine: change your password now ...
[10:20] <earthen> mwe, yes I can I choose to print to my epson printer but nothing prints
[10:20] <earthen> mwe, unless i use abiword or some other one that works
[10:20] <mwe> earthen: odd
[10:21] <Entwine> please command
[10:21] <earthen> mwe, right noe it's only oo.org and firefox that doesn't seem to print
[10:21] <earthen> mwe, I think so too
[10:21] <skpl> can someone tell me what this means? http://pastebin.com/656360
[10:22] <jadacyrus> is there a How-To for upgrading to Dapper from breezy?
[10:22] <mwe> skpl: it probably means your trying to compile a crappy program
[10:22] <earthen> mwe, Mozilla doesn't print eather
[10:22] <skpl> mwe: it has worked before. why it would it crap now?
[10:23] <mwe> skpl: it's only warnings though
[10:23] <mwe> skpl: maybe it compiles anyway
[10:23] <Slagerij> signedness, is that a new word?
[10:23] <skpl> oh
[10:23] <skpl> mwe: YOU ARE RIGHT
[10:23] <Jimmey__> How can I check my FPS?
[10:23] <jadaz87> !upgrading
[10:23] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[10:24] <supertux> does anyone know when flight 7 is due out?  i cant install till then because of some drives issues with the flight 6 kernel
[10:25] <bolsh> Hi
[10:25] <bolsh> How solid is Dapper nowadays?
[10:25] <asdf25> i've been using it for like 4 days now with no problems at all
[10:26] <asdf25> and GNOME is noticably faster
[10:26] <supertux> flight 6 is very solid
[10:26] <mwe> bolsh: it's unstable. works ok here
[10:26] <mwe> bolsh: some things are broken
[10:26] <KenSentMe> dn4, hard to say
[10:27] <KenSentMe> dn4, i think ubuntu works better if you want to use it as a desktop system
[10:27] <bolsh> mwe, Anything in particular?
[10:27] <bolsh> mwe, Anything in gnome 2.14, in particular? :)
[10:27] <mwe> bolsh: kdm is freezing instead of rebooting for example. gdm works though
[10:28] <bolsh> grand
[10:28] <asparagui> anybody familiar with how to get rythymbox to read itunes shared libraries?
[10:28] <MystaMax> Ken: have you installed gproftpd?
[10:28] <mwe> bolsh: problems with danish letters. solved manually though
[10:28] <earthen> mwe, so you don't have any idea's about my printer problem
[10:28] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, no, my debian server has no window manager
[10:28] <mwe> bolsh: adept_notifier is broken
[10:28] <MystaMax> ah ok
[10:29] <mwe> earthen: not really. sorry. I thought if it worked in one program it should work in the other ones as well
[10:29] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, but looked at proftpd-adm and it installs a complete proftpd-mysql config by itself
[10:29] <bolsh> mwe, I'm Irish/French, with occasional use for ø
[10:29] <eml> ok i installed Eterm now, how can I replace Applications->Accessories->Terminal with the command Eterm instead of gnome-terminal? Tried going System->Preferences->Preferred Application, but no luck
[10:29] <skpl> can someone help me install an ftp server on my system?
[10:29] <sfar> hi eml
[10:29] <KenSentMe> skpl, sudo apt-get install proftpd
[10:29] <MystaMax> apt-get install proftpd
[10:29] <simonpca> !tell simonpca about ipv6
[10:29] <MystaMax> ahh ya beat me
[10:30] <lamego> skpl, apt-cache search ftpd
[10:30] <eml> hi sfar
[10:30] <mwe> bolsh: yeah. it will probably work. I had to fiddle a little with it though in emacs for intance
[10:30] <earthen> mwe, yeah me too it freakin weard
[10:30] <lamego> skpl, sudo apt-get install ftpd_package_name
[10:30] <KenSentMe> skpl, system users login using their own name and pass and end up in their own homedir
[10:31] <KenSentMe> i'm leaving now
[10:31] <MystaMax> ken, can i change my account so its root
[10:31] <KenSentMe> good night everyone
[10:31] <mwe> bolsh: installing mule-ucs solved the emacs problem. I had to switch the locale to en_US.utf8 though
[10:31] <MystaMax> see ya ken! thanks for the advice/help
[10:31] <skpl> kensentme: i installed proftpd but i cannot connect to my own machine, why not?
[10:31] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, sudo -i
[10:31] <mwe> skpl: is it running?
[10:31] <mwe> skpl: do you have a firewall?
[10:32] <KenSentMe> skpl, sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[10:32] <MystaMax> ken: what i meant was so that when i connect to the FTP server, it'll go to / instead of my home directory
[10:32] <_harm>    skpl and make sure ur router is has port 22 open ;)
[10:32] <_harm> MystaMax you have to chroot user to their directory
[10:32] <skpl> KenSentMe, ProFTPd warning: not start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode, apparently. Check your configuration.
[10:32] <KenSentMe> MystaMax, if you haven't used the option in profptd.conf RootLogin off then root can login
[10:33] <skpl> mwe: i am not using a firewall
[10:33] <mwe> skpl: maybe you should do, check the configuration
[10:33] <skpl> mwe: how do i do that?
[10:33] <KenSentMe> skpl, sorry, i can't help u right now
[10:33] <mwe> skpl: short answer, read the documentation :)
[10:33] <MystaMax> kk, thanks for ya help
[10:33] <KenSentMe> bye all
[10:33] <MystaMax> bye ken
[10:35] <skpl> mwe: i checked the conf file and it is set to run from inetd
[10:35] <MystaMax> _harm: I'm not sure I understand you
[10:35] <_harm> MystaMax chrooting means to keep people in their directories, so they cant browse outside of their home folder
[10:36] <mwe> skpl: I afraid I can't give you a quick answer. It's been quite a while since I last used it ...
[10:36] <MystaMax> mwe: can I install gproftpd using apt-get?
[10:36] <mwe> MystaMax: yeah. enable universe though
[10:36] <skpl> can someone help me get proftpd started?
[10:36] <MystaMax> mwe: its enabled, so its just sudo apt-get isntall gproftpd?
[10:36] <skpl> i tried using sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start but i got a warning and the program is not running
[10:36] <MystaMax> _harm: thanks for that info
[10:36] <lamego> skpl, look at the warning and try to understand it :)
[10:37] <mwe> MystaMax: yeah
[10:37] <`Manuel`> hi all
[10:37] <`Manuel`> :)
[10:38] <_harm> MystaMax chrooting is a very essential part of having a effective FTP server
[10:38] <`Manuel`> how I can have man page about function like system or perror?
[10:38] <skpl> lamego,  ok
[10:38] <MystaMax> _harm: where can I get a basic understanding of chrooting
[10:38] <mvdg> Hi there,
[10:38] <mwe> mandingo: install glibc-doc
[10:39] <Slagerij> agree - chrooting is essential for running ftp
[10:39] <mwe> `Manuel`: install glibc-doc
[10:39] <`Manuel`> tnx mwe
[10:39] <skpl> lamego, it is telling me that it is not set to run in standalone or inet.d mode, even though i have it set to run ni inet.d mode according to my conf file, which it asked me to check
[10:39] <_harm> MystaMax i would try google or wiki of your FTP-server-client
[10:39] <NRG88> hi, what gui do you recommend for a weak pc, with 32 mb of ram...? i whant to use it only for mp3-s, some pitures, recognizing flash sticks, etc...
[10:39] <NRG88> but not fluxbox
[10:39] <lamego> skpl, if its set to be run from inetd it can not be launched from /etc/init.d
[10:40] <lamego> inetd is a superdaemon which takes care of starting services on its own
[10:40] <kbrooks> mvdg: ask it. :)
[10:40] <mvdg> Does anyone know how to connect a beamer without screwing up the screen resolution
[10:40] <skpl> lamego, then why isnt the ftp server running now?
[10:40] <NRG88> the target user was using windows, so i'll need an easy gui
[10:40] <NRG88> xfce or icewm?
[10:40] <supertux> but no one knows when flight 7 is expected?
[10:40] <lamego> I don't use inetd for ages, I would look on the inetd configuration on the first place
[10:40] <mwe> skpl: he explainded that
[10:41] <_harm> NRG88 perhaps use puppy or DSL linux?
[10:41] <mvdg> I use key combination fn f8 (crt/lcd)
[10:41] <skpl> mwe: he did?
[10:41] <skpl> i must be a newbie
[10:41] <mwe> skpl: it's configured to use inetd but your starting it from /etc/init.d/
[10:41] <ledil> why is azureus missing under dapper drake ?
[10:41] <caglar> there was a little program which was able to scan the network traffic for http, ftp, IM passwords and so on and was able to monitor them, it is in the ubuntu repos but I do not know what the name was, anyone?
[10:41] <skpl> mwe: so how should i set it to run from init.d?
[10:41] <_harm> ledil cuz dapper isnt final?
[10:41] <mwe> skpl: change it to standalone probably
[10:41] <skpl> ok
[10:41] <NRG88> _harm, but whit what gui?
[10:41] <Slagerij> tcpdump
[10:41] <ledil> _harm: is there a chance to install it from somewhere ?
[10:41] <NRG88> xfce or icewm?
[10:42] <lamego> skpl, if you dont have any special reason to run it from inted, run it as standalone
[10:42] <mwe> skpl: read the documentation please. you don't wanna run a server unless you have a basic understanding of how it works
[10:42] <lamego> inetd
[10:42] <joodas> anyone running aixgl +compiz on i915 or similar HW?#
[10:42] <skpl> no
[10:42] <_harm> NRG88 damnsmalllinux / puppy linux are both fully functional linus distro, both are <100mb fully functional w. GUI mp3 player browser etc etc
[10:42] <skpl> how do i make it run at startup, that is what i want
[10:42] <mvdg> Beamer problem ????
[10:42] <ledil> nother question
[10:42] <mvdg> Anyone ???
[10:42] <Slagerij> caglar: tcpdump will dump network traffic, in all its gory detail
[10:42] <ledil> how to start esd ? i cant find the daemon esd
[10:42] <lamego> skpl, when you install a server by default it gets setup to run at boot
[10:42] <mvdg> Has a solution
[10:42] <NRG88> _harm, DSL's got fluxbox, and that's now very user friendly
[10:43] <redguy> mvdg: what is your problem??
[10:43] <skpl> lamego: so i should reboot for it to run? that does not make much sense
[10:43] <lamego> skpl, for standalones services the /etc/init.d/server start is the usual procedure
[10:43] <skpl> lamego, ok
[10:43] <skpl> thanks.
[10:43] <lamego> btw
[10:43] <lamego> with inetd
[10:43] <_harm> NRG88 you can just addany mp3 client u wish to it
[10:43] <lamego> the server does not need to be running
[10:43] <mvdg> I try the get a beamer connected to my laptop of a second monitor. I would like to see that it doesn't screw up my screen resolution.
[10:44] <mwe> funny how many people refuse to read
[10:44] <lamego> its the inetd process which will run the server when the connection is received
[10:44] <skpl> lamego, so how come i cannot connect to my own machine?
[10:44] <lamego> no idea, did you looked at the inetd logs ?
[10:44] <caglar> how do I get out of a `screen`?
[10:44] <skpl> lamego, how do i do that?
[10:44] <caglar> if ctrl+d doesnt work
[10:44] <lamego> btw, do you have inetd running ?
[10:45] <Slagerij> you either arent running the server, or your hosts.allow file is too tight, or you are running a firewall, also check /var/log action
[10:45] <mvdg> How do I configure a second screen to wich a second 'window' is displayed in a correct resolution
[10:45] <skpl> lamego, not sure
[10:45] <lamego> skpl, well, forget ineted, remove the package and install it again standalone
[10:45] <skpl> but what if i want it to run at startup?
[10:45] <lamego> inetd is far more complex to manage
[10:45] <lamego> grrr you just need to use that sudo command that you have tried
[10:45] <skpl> ok, thanks
[10:46] <sfar> hi eml
[10:46] <mvdg> If I use fn-f8 a second virtual screen is created with the 1900x1440 resolution. This means that on a 1024x840 mon or beamer you can scroll
[10:46] <Tailsfan7> How do I upgrade firefox with Ubuntu
[10:46] <sfar> !ff1.5
[10:46] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:46] <sfar> there you go, Tailsfan7
[10:47] <Tailsfan7> Thanks
[10:47] <skpl> lamego, i got this error skpl@regularity:~$ ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[10:47] <skpl> lamego, what does that mean?
[10:47] <Tailsfan7> I'm using Ubuntu's Live CD and it's looking fine :)
[10:47] <`Manuel`> I have enabled root user, now how must use make done an apt-get command?
[10:47] <mwe> Tailsfan7: take note of how to restore the default version in case you should need that though
[10:47] <_harm> Tailsfan7 thats good :P
[10:47] <nisipasu> hi everybody
[10:47] <scorchsaber> Tailsfan7: It's faster to load when you have it installed
[10:48] <redguy> mvdg: hmm seems that you want a dualhead setup
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <redguy> mvdg: haven't done it myself, but I am sure it can be done
[10:48] <skpl> lamego, are you still there?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <nisipasu> do you know what is the name of dc++ in linux ubuntu?
[10:48] <redguy> !ops nickrud
[10:48] <ubotu> redguy: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:48] <mvdg> redguy: do you know how
[10:48] <Tailsfan7> nisi, I don't think you are allowed to talk about that type of stuff here
[10:49] <nisipasu> why?
[10:49] <mwe> nisipasu: you'll get banned if you flood like that
[10:49] <DBO> we are allowed to discuss filesharing, but please do not spam the channel
[10:49] <lamego> skpl, kind of
[10:49] <redguy> Tailsfan7: why not? he shouldn't ask it hte manner he did but that's another issue
[10:49] <nisipasu> k
[10:50] <Tailsfan7> Because isn't DC++ illegal stuff?
[10:50] <nisipasu> but what is the name i am looking for
[10:50] <skpl> lamego, you said that because of inetd the ftp server should start whenever a connection is detected? however i cannot ftp to my own machine, any idea why?
[10:50] <DBO> Tailsfan7, no, it has many legal uses
[10:50] <mwe> nisipasu: install dcgui
[10:50] <simira> what's a decent, free forum software, more secure than phpbb?
[10:50] <mwe> Tailsfan7: it's not
[10:50] <Tailsfan7> SMF
[10:50] <mwe> Tailsfan7: not all sharing is illegal
[10:50] <lamego> skpl, like i said, if you dont know what is inetd or if you have it running, dont use it
[10:50] <nisipasu> maybe is an equivalent
[10:50] <ompaul> libstdc++5 - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[10:50] <simira> Tailsfan7: do you know smf? I can't make it work :-(
[10:50] <DBO> Tailsfan7, its not sharing itself that is illegal, its WHAT you share that makes it legal or illegal
[10:50] <skpl> lamego, i would prefer to learn how to use it, how do i see if it is running?
[10:50] <lamego> if inetd is not running, the server will not be started
[10:51] <ompaul> jenda, what?
[10:51] <Tailsfan7> Yes I Know it
[10:51] <ompaul> I saw the spam but it stopped
[10:51] <lamego> skpl, in my humble oppinion you should not care about learning to use inetd
[10:51] <Tailsfan7> This is my forum that has it: http://barktpolar.byethost15.com/SMF
[10:51] <haGGis> whats the best games for linux
[10:51] <MystaMax> mwe: i tried to run sudo apt-get install gproftpd, but it did not work, i received an error stating, "Couldn't find package gproftp" any ideas?
[10:51] <redguy> mvdg: well, I am sure there is a page on the wiki
[10:51] <redguy> !dualhead
[10:51] <ubotu> redguy: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:51] <skpl> lamego, maybe i should just use pure-ftpd instead, it seems easier to run
[10:51] <mwe> MystaMax: gproftpd
[10:51] <mwe> MystaMax: not gproftp
[10:51] <lamego> specially if you are not familiar with a "regular" standalone service
[10:52] <simira> haGGis: I'm hooked on Battle for Wesnoth
[10:52] <mwe> MystaMax: learn to use apt-cache search
[10:52] <mvdg> looking for it
[10:52] <lamego> skpl, pureftp is just easier as any other ircd, if you dont select an option you don't understand, like you did
[10:52] <haGGis> smimra: what that about
[10:52] <simira> haGGis: adventure/strategy. www.wesnoth.org
[10:52] <p47> hey, do you know how I can make a stop on compiz and XGL ?
[10:53] <skpl> lamego, ok so when i install proftpd as a standalone server why did it not start when i used the sudo etc/init.d/proftpd start command?
[10:53] <DBO> skpl, did it give an error?
[10:53] <LathropWells> is there a log ?
[10:53] <lamego> skpl, Check /var/log/ for the ftpd related errors
[10:54] <skpl> dbo: it said that proftpd ghad to be started from inetd,
[10:54] <skpl> lamego, ok
[10:54] <pashminet> Double_D!!!
[10:54] <Double_D> pashminet: did that work?
[10:54] <DBO> skpl, have you checked in /etc/proftpd.conf to make sure its setup as standalone?
[10:54] <pashminet> Double_D: now dr_dos comes up, what is that?!
[10:54] <lamego> skpl, thats because you already had a previous proftpd configuration which is set to inetd
[10:54] <p47> hey somabody knows how I can stop compiz ?
[10:54] <Double_D> pashminet: that's what it boots to?
[10:55] <pashminet> Double_D: exactly!
[10:55] <skpl> lamego, well i removed and then reinstalled using synaptic, but the config screen never came up, any idea why?
[10:55] <mwe> skpl: you didn't change the config correctly. please read the documentation now
[10:55] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, so that's just dos, i think.
[10:55] <Ced_> Good day there. I get errors about "Couldn't stat source package list" when I open Synaptic. Is there something wrong with the package servers? Or my mirror? (ch.archive.ubuntu.com)
[10:55] <DBO> skpl, because that wont remove config files, you need to use --purge to remove config
[10:55] <Double_D> pashminet: and that's what boots off the live CD, that's strange.
[10:55] <simira> any other good, free forums?
[10:55] <pashminet> Double_D: i know, this is driving me insane
[10:55] <skpl> dbo: so sudo apt-get --purge proftpd?
[10:56] <DBO> skpl, if you edit /etc/proftpd.conf you will see where the config error is, its near the stop, just change it to standalone
[10:56] <_harm> skpl sudo apt-get remove proftpd should be fine
[10:56] <mwe> this is getting annoying. why do people refuse to read?
[10:56] <DBO> _harm, afaik that wont remove /etc/proftpd.conf
[10:56] <stjepan> I'd like to write a bash-like shelll... do you know any guides or tutorials?
[10:56] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, the guys here at work say you need to burn it as a disk image, did you try that?
[10:56] <skpl> _harm, what does this mean? Removing proftpd ...
[10:56] <skpl> ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[10:56] <Double_D> pashminet: hehe.  you must be so frustrated by now.
[10:56] <_harm> skpl removing as in uninstalling
[10:57] <Tailsfan7> If I were to install stuff using the Live CD, where would it install?
[10:57] <pashminet> Double_D: i don't know, a dvd boot iso or something
[10:57] <mwe> Tailsfan7: you can't
[10:57] <DBO> Tailsfan7, to the ram drive it creates
[10:57] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, it does need to be burned as an iso.
[10:57] <Double_D> pashminet: what burning software are you using?
[10:57] <Remenic> is there a dead simple way to get vnc (server) working on a default installation of dapper?
[10:58] <nickname> yes
[10:58] <Remenic> taking over the local display
[10:58] <simira> any tip about good, free forum software?
[10:58] <nickname> Remenic: sudo apt-get install tightvnc
[10:58] <_harm> does dapper come with lgx?
[10:58] <arnon> what is the difference between ubuntu and debian? does ubuntu's packages version more modern ?
[10:58] <Yan^> hello people, I am on the freshly installed ubuntu, and trying to add the packages from the ubuntu dvd to the reposir\tory. it says: unable to get exclusive lock... please close the application... what should I do? any ideas?
[10:58] <_harm> simira i use phpbb? invision powerboard? small machine forums?
[10:58] <nickname> Remenic: thats what im using right now im downstairs on my laptop connected to linux box upstairs
[10:58] <lamego> rem_, sudo apt-get install vncserver ?
[10:59] <pashminet> Double_D: nero 6
[10:59] <DBO> arnon, ubuntu tends to update more often, has different default packages and so on
[10:59] <Double_D> pashminet: and what's the url that you got the image from?
[10:59] <mwe> _harm: what's lgx?
[10:59] <MenZa> Yan^:  you need to add "sudo" in front of your command
[10:59] <Remenic> nickname: any other configuration I need to do?
[10:59] <arnon> DBO, I see
[10:59] <MenZa> e.g. "sudo apt-get install package"
[10:59] <simira> _harm: smf don't work, phpbb is a bit unsecure
[10:59] <_harm> mew XLG glx??? u know the cubic desktop :P
[10:59] <Tailsfan7> do I put sudo commands ina  seperate
[10:59] <Double_D> pashminet: so you're burning it as a dvd boot iso?  can you burn it as a cd boot iso instead?
[10:59] <MenZa> Tailsfan7: No. In front of your commands.
[10:59] <nickname> Just install on your other client
[10:59] <bloc76> i upgraded to breezy today and subversion thru apache stopped working. I can't figure out why. svn works fine with file:/// but i get an error going thru apache. anyone have any ideas?
[10:59] <mwe> _harm: it's not installed by default
[10:59] <DBO> Yan^, do you have an extra instances of apt-get or synaptics (the package manager) open?
[10:59] <pashminet> Double_D: i'm out of cd's, i've only got dvds
[10:59] <nickname> in ubuntu just enter
[10:59] <MystaMax> isn't xgl the a novell project?
[11:00] <Double_D> pashminet: ah.  hmmm.
[11:00] <nickname> tightvncserver
[11:00] <_harm> simira urm.. well invision powerboard are fine. but forums always have been prone to flaws /me rembers phpbb kiddy hax =[
[11:00] <skpl> can someone tell me what this mean? http://pastebin.com/656438
[11:00] <Double_D> pashminet: you may need to just have them you ship you one.
[11:00] <pashminet> Double_D: i also downloaded the dvd something something
[11:00] <Double_D> pashminet: what's the url that that stuff is at?
[11:00] <Yan^> DBO: no, that is exactly what the thing says: close the "aptitude or smth. but I have launched nothing
[11:00] <nickname> and open the client enter the ip of the ubuntu computer
[11:00] <simira> _harm: I'll have a look at invision
[11:00] <nickname> your good to goo
[11:00] <nickname> go
[11:00] <pashminet> Double_D: www.ubuntu.com/download
[11:00] <Remenic> nickname: does it start automatically? the server I mean
[11:00] <eml> oh, nice, ubuntu deleted 70gb data from /dev/sda1..
[11:01] <nickname> tightvncserver in terminal
[11:01] <_harm> skpl go to your config file and chance the group option on line 20...
[11:01] <DBO> Yan^, yeah, that glitch occures, but I dont recall the fix...  some lock file that needs to be deleted... anyone remember?
[11:01] <nickname> and its good to good to go
[11:01] <ejd3> MystaMax: yeah xgl is from novell
[11:01] <Remenic> nickname: ok, thanks :)
[11:01] <skpl> _harm: you mean comment it out?
[11:01] <nickname> Remenic:
[11:01] <eml> why would the installer format /dev/sda1 just because it was running?
[11:01] <Double_D> pashminet: did you check the wiki page about burning it?
[11:01] <mwe> DBO: Yan^ /var/lock/dpkg isn't it?
[11:01] <Yan^> DBO: yes there is some "lock" which launches itself in the terminal
[11:02] <sethman> Hello, Can I adk for help here regurding installing a wrieless adapter
[11:02] <pashminet> Double_D: well that's probably the only thing i DIDN'T read
[11:02] <skpl> _harm, what do you mean by chance it?
[11:02] <_harm> skpl well iam sure there is a tutorial or a howto u can find perhaps even a wiki...
[11:02] <nickname> Remenic: if you have a font problem just copy the error and enter it in google and it will tell you how to fix
[11:02] <simira> _harm: invision is not free
[11:02] <Double_D> pashminet: hehe.  you're on windows, right?
[11:02] <Remenic> nickname: oh, nice :P
[11:02] <skpl> i thought this was a help channel
[11:02] <DBO> skpl, pastebin /etc/proftpd.conf and /etc/groups
[11:02] <_harm> skpl your referring to a group which doesnt exist.. nobody isnt a group
[11:02] <stjepan> do you know any very simple Linux shells?
[11:02] <_harm> simira why does it need to be so secure?
[11:02] <Rews> hi again, i have a problem : "Setup is unable to find the "make" program on your machine."
[11:02] <nickname> but it works great
[11:02] <Rews> can someone help me?
[11:02] <Double_D> pashminet: let's see, it's got a tool that it advises you to download and use.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[11:03] <nickname> use fast compression
[11:03] <DBO> skpl, I meant /etc/group
[11:03] <nickname> when it comes up not best compression
[11:03] <Double_D> pashminet: see if that helps you out.
[11:03] <nickname> best doesn't work to well on my computer
[11:03] <ompaul> stjepan, what is simple, use bash unless you are really restricted for space
[11:03] <simira> _harm: you can't be serious...
[11:03] <skpl> dbo: http://pastebin.com/656446
[11:03] <stjepan> ompaul: why bash?
[11:03] <Yan^> mwe: seriously, u mean I should delete a file in /var/lock ???
[11:03] <skpl> _harm: so should i have it point to a group that does exist or simply create a group called nobody?
[11:04] <pashminet> Double_D: thanks, i'll try
[11:04] <stjepan> ompaul: do you know any simpler shells (with less features)
[11:04] <stjepan> ?
[11:04] <Double_D> pashminet: okay, let me know how it goes.
[11:04] <crimsun> sure, ash is one
[11:04] <_harm> simira i hope i didnt sayanything weird :P
[11:04] <mwe> Yan^: if the process is dead and didn't remove the lock, yes
[11:04] <ompaul> stjepan, yes - rsh is one
[11:04] <mwe> Yan^: it's /var/lib/dpkg/lock though
[11:04] <stjepan> ompaul: any more simpler? :)
[11:04] <DBO> skpl, uncomment the part that says "Group nobody" and change nobody to nogroup
[11:04] <simira> _harm: security is a pretty important thing, considered possible misuses of unsecure servers
[11:04] <_harm> skpl you can do ether.. but i assume that the error you showed me tells you that it cant find teh group u gave
[11:04] <Double_D> pashminet: i'm going to be afk for the next ten minutes or so....
[11:04] <Yan^> mwe: so I should delete this file?
[11:04] <ompaul> stjepan, what is simple - other than a concept
[11:05] <_harm> simira phpbb boards arnt that prone to create a unsecure server
[11:05] <mwe> Yan^: if you're sure apt is not running and left the lock anyway
[11:05] <blindx> GAIM likes to disconnect my MSN account sometimes. Is this a common issue? Is it GAIM, or is it MSN?
[11:05] <pianoboy3333> What package is the perl module Filter.pm for PAR in?
[11:05] <pashminet> Double_D: what's afk?
[11:05] <bloc76> pashminet: away from keyboard
[11:05] <pashminet> ah, cool
[11:05] <MC84> hello
[11:05] <simira> blindx: msn, I'd believe. Trillian is like that as well.
[11:05] <blindx> Damn Microsoft :P
[11:05] <mwe> pianoboy3333: perl-modules
[11:06] <stjepan> ompaul: I'd like to see a source of a simple shell to write myself a shell :)
[11:06] <skpl> dbo: i got this erro skpl@regularity:~$ Starting ProFTPD ftp daemon: proftpd - Fatal: <Anonymous>: '/' not permitted for anonymous root directory. on line 53 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[11:06] <DBO> blindx, its a bit of both, MSN drops it, but GAIM sometimes get stuck on reconnect
[11:06] <mwe> pianoboy3333: I think
[11:06] <pianoboy3333> mwe: no...
[11:06] <blindx> ah well, AIM stays connected, so that's cool.
[11:06] <DBO> skpl, do you need anonymous access?
[11:06] <skpl> dbo: no
[11:06] <ompaul> stjepan, ahhhh, then I would say don't do those, look at the source for csh or bash and look at some of the functions in there
[11:07] <DBO> skpl, comment out the whole section that starts with <anonymous /> all the way to the end
[11:07] <skpl> DBO, ok
[11:07] <stjepan> ompaul: what do you think of making another one shell? :)
[11:07] <stjepan> ompaul: or you're a bash zealot? :)
[11:07] <DBO> skpl, where did you get this config file from?
[11:07] <blindx> In Winamp, I could set it to not have a taskbar button, and only show up in the systray. Is there a way to do this with XMMS? Looking through the settings, I don't see it...
[11:07] <_harm> simira vbulletin ?
[11:07] <DBO> skpl, because its certainly not the standard...
[11:08] <skpl> dbo: /etc/proftpd.conf
[11:08] <ompaul> stjepan, I think there is no need unless you want to learn that is all, you might as well see how the world you live in works rather than making one up yourself
[11:08] <DBO> skpl, no, I meant did you find it on the internet
[11:08] <simonpca> a+ tous!
[11:08] <Yan^> mwe: I have deleted the lock file, the same error message occurs
[11:08] <skpl> DBO, no, proftpd created it
[11:08] <simira> _harm: still not free
[11:08] <simira> _harm: I like it, though
[11:08] <Yan^> mwe: I have run  "aptitude before
[11:08] <DBO> skpl, no its didnt... proftpd's default is MUCH different...
[11:08] <mwe> Yan^: what was the error again?
[11:08] <stjepan> ompaul: I am frustrated with learning so many languages.... I'd like to have a python-like shell.... what do u think?
[11:09] <skpl> DBO, i got the program to run and it says it is accepting connections however i cannot connect using my ftp client, any idea why? i do not have a firewall up
[11:09] <ompaul> stjepan, there is one
[11:09] <stjepan> ompaul: ipython?
[11:09] <DBO> skpl, /etc/ftpusers -> pastebin
[11:09] <stjepan> ipython is not really a system shell
[11:09] <_harm> simira vbulletin isnt free? well you coudl always opt for a free forum hosted elsewere and use that?
[11:09] <mabus06> can somebody help me get my microphone working? I turned up the volume and unmuted capture, but it still isn't making a sound. The same mic has worked on ubuntu before.
[11:09] <stjepan> ompaul: what shell?
[11:10] <mwe> skpl: why are you refusing to read the documentation?
[11:10] <Yan^> mwe: I am in the graphical mode. trying to add application> settings> add CD. It says: unable to get exclusive lock. This usually means that another package management applcication (like apt-get or aptitude already running. close this first)
[11:10] <skpl> i am not
[11:10] <skpl> dbo: http://pastebin.com/656461
[11:10] <mwe> skpl: it's explained in there
[11:10] <DBO> skpl, you should be able to log in with your username and password
[11:10] <skpl> what is?
[11:10] <mabus06> I have ddns set up for my ip, how do I change it so when I connect to irc my host is shown as mabus.sytes.net (my ddns) instead of my ip?
[11:10] <stjepan> ompaul: you there?
[11:10] <skpl> dbo: however i am not able to, i do not know why
[11:10] <ompaul> stjepan, well to me a python shell is a python shell and about as extensible as they get,  okay so implement some functions and be happy, I really don't want this debate I consider it less fun than other stuff :)
[11:10] <mwe> skpl: how to correctly configure it
[11:10] <_harm> skpl u didnt read the documentation?
[11:10] <skpl> i have it correctly configured
[11:11] <DBO> skpl, your config file sucks, try to find the default one, it should work just fine for you
[11:11] <stjepan> ompaul: and you think nobody would like a python shell?
[11:11] <mwe> Yan^: and you're positive no other program using apt is running?
[11:11] <DBO> (you may have to reassign the passive ports)
[11:11] <ompaul> stjepan, if it was good it would be used :)
[11:11] <stjepan> ompaul: the problem is that I must know how shells work
[11:11] <ompaul> stjepan, but this conversation is for #ubuntu-oftopic
[11:11] <mwe> skpl: apparently not
[11:11] <stjepan> so I need to look at a code
[11:11] <DBO> mwe, saying RTFM is nice and all, but the manual can be very intimidating...
[11:12] <Yan^> mwe: I do not know. OK, i will reboot, and then it kills the other progs, right?
[11:12] <mwe> skpl: you got it to start. that doesn't equal correct configuration
[11:12] <mwe> Yan^: yeah
[11:12] <ompaul> mwe, I said it before, give a URL not rtfm - its not ubuntuish if you feel like saying that say nothing
[11:12] <Yan^> mwe: OK, doing
[11:13] <stjepan> ompaul: and the last question: at the code of what shells should I look to learn about that? What simple shells? I want to understand how shells work...
[11:13] <_harm> simira here all all the forum types i can think of: Ezboard ikonboard IPB UBB vBulletin XMB YaBB SMF PHPBB
[11:13] <Mau> Hi! i am with problems with my dvd::rip
[11:13] <Mau> ibdvdread: using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for access DVD
[11:13] <Mau> libdvdread: couldn't find device name
[11:13] <Mau> libdvdread: libdcdread can't open file VIDEO_TS.info
[11:13] <ompaul> stjepan, so I said already read the source of a popular one, pick out a function and implement that
[11:13] <DBO> stjepan, most all shell scripting is the same, there are slight differences accross the shells, but 90% of the stuff will transfer well
[11:14] <Mau> does anyone can help me?
[11:14] <ompaul> Mau,  DO NO PASTE here, thanks, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:14] <_harm> Mau flooding sux
[11:14] <stjepan> ompaul: should I make a wrapper around bash or a shell from scratch?
[11:14] <Mau> sory people!
[11:14] <Mau> im newbie here!
[11:15] <ompaul> stjepan, well if your ambition is to do it in python consider this, you have to reimplement it so lets leave it there or move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:15] <_harm> Mau np :) just rember
[11:15] <Mau> ;)
[11:15] <ompaul> Mau, as _harm said
[11:15] <mario> hola
[11:15] <stjepan> ompaul: ok tnx very much
[11:16] <eml> how can I select which soundcard should be used? ive got both onboard and a PCI-card
[11:16] <Mau> _harm, can u help me?
[11:16] <wvelez> how long could memtest take on a p4 3.4 ht with 1g ram? thanks
[11:16] <mario> alguien habla espaol
[11:16] <skpl> does the following mean that my ftp server starts whenever a connection is detected? ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[11:16] <sethk> wvelez, hours
[11:16] <wvelez> !es
[11:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:16] <DBO> wvelez, for a good solid test, over night
[11:17] <wvelez> sethk: thx
[11:17] <sethk> wvelez, testing with memtest86 version 3.2, each pass takes a long time, a bit under three hours for some hardware I was testing recently
[11:17] <wvelez> DBO: so the test will loop until i stop it?
[11:17] <DBO> yes
[11:17] <mwe> skpl: if xinetd is running
[11:17] <skpl> mwe:how do i see if it is running?
[11:17] <mwe> skpl: ps -e|grep inet
[11:17] <Yan^> mwe: well I rebooted, then put the dvd inside. it started to scan, then says:Could not stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com ...etc
[11:17] <skpl> mwe: nothing
[11:18] <skpl> mwe: how do i run it?
[11:18] <wvelez> sethk: does it queue the results from all of the routine loops?
[11:18] <mwe> skpl: I didn't mean to be rude when I suggested you read the documentation.
[11:18] <dumezil_> im running ubuntu 5.10 and im having a problem with mozilla thunderbird.  when i get a link in an email in thunderbird and i click on it, nothing happens...  i can't tell if this is a problem with thunderbird, gnome or firefox...
[11:18] <sethk> wvelez, I believe it simply keeps error counters, one for normal errors and one for ECC errors
[11:18] <wvelez> sethk: kewl...thx
[11:18] <Cooner750> what's the keyboard shortcut to get the run command window?
[11:18] <skpl> mwe: can you tell me why proftpd is running according to ps aux even though i have uninstalled it?
[11:18] <mwe> skpl: first do you really want it to run from inetd or as standalone?
[11:19] <Yan^> mwe: and when I do add applications > settings> add CD it says the same thing: unable to get exclusive lock
[11:19] <wvelez> duzemil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[11:19] <sethk> Cooner750, ALT-F2
[11:19] <mwe> skpl: I don't think uninstalling it kills running processes
[11:19] <blaaat>  want to use xhephyr but how do i install it it doesn't seem to come with the default xorg stuff and i'm having trouble compilling it so i'd prefer apt
[11:19] <skpl> mwe: i just want it to run whenever i start my computer
[11:19] <sethman> Hello, I am trying to install my DLINK Wireless Adapter USB device (DWL-G122 H/W ver::B1 F/W Ver.:2.02) and have been encountering a problem. It appears that I have to compile the driver to work on my system.
[11:19] <sethman> When I go to "make" the untarred files, it produces the following error messages:
[11:19] <mwe> skpl: you should probably figure out how to make it run standalone then
[11:19] <sethman> sethman@SethKubuntu:~/rt2570-cvs-2006041119/Module$ sudo make
[11:19] <sethman> make[1] : Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build'
[11:19] <sethman> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.
[11:19] <sethman> make[1] : Leaving directory `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build'
[11:19] <sethman> rt2570.ko failed to build!
[11:19] <sethman> make: *** [module]  Error 1
[11:20] <skpl> mwe: i already did, however i still could not connect for some reason
[11:20] <mwe> sethman: don't paste in here
[11:20] <duelboot> !pastebin
[11:20] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:20] <mwe> skpl: and ps -e|grep proftp confirmed it was running?
[11:21] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:21] <blaaat> hi, I want to use xhephyr but how do i install it it doesn't seem to come with the default xorg stuff and i'm having trouble compilling it so i'd prefer apt, any sudgestions?
[11:21] <mwe> skpl: and what about sudo netstat -ntlp?
[11:21] <ompaul> sethman, sudo apt-get install build-essential - and don't do that again
[11:21] <st3v3dnd> I just installed the latest pgadmin3 from source using a postgres package server, and now ubuntu keeps telling me I need to upgrade(to the binary I assume). When I do though the app is broken, and I have to resinstall from source to get it working. How can I get ubuntu to stop notifying me I need to update?
[11:21] <skpl> mwe: ok, i made it work, thank you
[11:21] <sethman> mwe: don't paste what
[11:21] <rapha> How do I set German stock symbols in the stock ticker applet? It doesn't work with any of the ones I enter :-(
[11:21] <mwe> skpl: good
[11:21] <blindx> I ran nm-applet, but then got ubuntu to configure my WiFi without it.... how would I remove it from my "tray" ?
[11:21] <mwe> sethman: anything
[11:22] <duelboot> sethman, anthing more than 2 lines, put in pastebin
[11:22] <duelboot> sethman, then put link here
[11:22] <sethman> Thank you for telling me about pastebin
[11:22] <duelboot> yw
[11:22] <Yan^> mwe: no idea?
[11:22] <mwe> Yan^: still not working?
[11:23] <eml> hmm, sudo apt-get install linux-k7 gives me kernel 2.6.12? o.O
[11:23] <Yan^> mwe: the same thing after rebot
[11:23] <eml> i want .16.5
[11:23] <sethman> I tried build-essential already. Same error
[11:23] <mwe> Yan^: can you use apt-get in a terminal?
[11:23] <Yan^> mwe: what package for example?
[11:23] <sethk> mwe, you can only use apt-get in a terminal
[11:23] <mwe> Yan^: sudo apt-get update
[11:23] <Yan^> mwe: trying
[11:24] <mwe> sethk: I know that
[11:24] <sethk> mwe, I know
[11:24] <blindx> I ran nm-applet, but then got ubuntu to configure my WiFi without it.... how would I remove it from my "tray" ?
[11:24] <sethk> mwe, you mean, does _he_ know how to use apt-get in a terminal  :)
[11:24] <p47> Hello someone can help me ?
[11:24] <MystaMax> im pretty sure someone will try
[11:24] <mwe> sethk: probably
[11:25] <mwe> p47: possibly if you ask a question
[11:25] <Yan^> mwe: oh many many error messages!! -- err http://us.archive.... Temporary failure resolving "us.archive'...
[11:25] <sethk> p47, depends on whether you ask a question.  If you don't ask a question then nobody can help you
[11:25] <mwe> Yan^: oh
[11:25] <mwe> Yan^: try removing the us. part of your mirrors
[11:25] <p47> I can't open gdesklet do you know why ?
[11:25] <mwe> Yan^: us. is sometimes not working well
[11:26] <Yan^> mwe: I am NOT connected to the NET at all!
[11:26] <lamego> Yan^, or you have a dns configuration problem
[11:26] <mwe> Yan^: oh
[11:26] <lamego> Yan^, if you dont have net at all the net repos should be disabled
[11:27] <p47> mwe, sethk can you help me ?
[11:27] <Yan^> lamego, mwe: do u mean to say that each time it astarts to seek for the NET repos?
[11:27] <sethk> p47, what happens when you try to use gdesklet?
[11:27] <siezer> whats the reccomended way to upgrade just one package from the dapper tree (firefox)
[11:27] <lamego> YaH00, yes, unless you comment them, as you should if you dont havennet
[11:27] <siezer> er
[11:28] <Yan^> lamego: ok, how do I do it, and where?
[11:28] <lamego> siezer, there is no easy way to do that because the package depends on system libraries upgrades
[11:28] <siezer> from breezy to ubuntu
[11:28] <mwe> siezer: well breezy _is_ ubuntu
[11:28] <lamego> siezer, you mean from breezy to dapper
[11:28] <lamego> yacc, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the network related entries
[11:29] <sfar> siezer: what you wanna do? upgrade firefox?
[11:29] <lamego> then do: sudo apt-get update
[11:29] <siezer> yea. i mean i have an ubuntu box, and id like to update just the mozilla-firefox package (and dependancies) from the dapper repository
[11:29] <Yan^> lamego: OOOK doing
[11:29] <siezer> ive read a little about package pinning but i get conflicting advice out of google
[11:29] <blindx> how do i remove items from the "tray" ?
[11:29] <sfar> !tell siezer about ff1.5
[11:30] <mwe> siezer: not recomended. read the /msg ubotu send you instead
[11:30] <siezer> k
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> siezer: You can't do that without breaking loads of stuff.  Follow the wiki (see ubotu) to install 1.5 and 1.07 side by side instead.
[11:30] <mwe> blindx: stop the running program
[11:30] <blindx> how do you stop running nm-applet?
[11:30] <sfar> blindx: what kind of items?
[11:30] <FlannelKing> siezer: upgrading to certain dapper packages is a no no.
[11:30] <mabus06> In Russia, all our base are belong to YOU!!
[11:31] <blindx> Hm... just got a notice, saying a new kernel was installed and to restart..
[11:31] <blindx> soo..  That
[11:31] <Yan^> lamego:: wow, indeed there is 1 uncommented line
[11:31] <nickrud> 's why the wiki page was written
[11:32] <lamego> ;)
[11:32] <siezer> hrm
[11:32] <siezer> thanks guys
[11:32] <siezer> (girls?)
[11:32] <FlannelKing> siezer: or, just upgrade to Dapper ;)
[11:32] <arrick> Has anyone here ever traded a 270mb hd for a 700 mhx 128mg computer even up before?
[11:33] <Jackie_> hi, can i access my ubuntu computer remotely using a vnc viewer and my IP?
[11:33] <lamego> Jackie_, if you install the vnc server, yes
[11:33] <bina> does linux keep a cache of the DNS responses you get when browsing the web?  if so, how do you reset it?
[11:33] <Jackie_> lamego, doesn't the vnc server come by default?
[11:33] <lamego> Jackie_, no, but it is easy to install it, just one command
[11:33] <MystaMax> hey mwe: figured out how to use apt-get cache search, FYI its gforge-ftp-proftpd
[11:33] <sethman> I hope this is the correct way to use pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12112
[11:34] <arrick> what are the minimum requirements for running the default ubuntu-desktop installation?
[11:34] <Jackie_> i think i have it...i can go to System->Preferences->Remote Desktop or something
[11:34] <sfar> ompaul: i was thinking about something.. on the /FaqOnIrc there is a section that says "Why does ./configure give errors?" .. the following URL does not say anything about it tho :| i feel tricked! ;)
[11:34] <lamego> Jackie_, I believe there you just have the client there
[11:34] <Jackie_> oh
[11:35] <lamego> erm remove the last there :P
[11:35] <mwe> MystaMax: it is? in dapper it'e gproftpd
[11:35] <MystaMax> welcome back skpl
[11:35] <ompaul> sfar, thank you - lets go fix
[11:35] <erUSUL> sethk, have you instaled the kernel headers?
[11:35] <Jackie_> ok...thing is...i can use vnc viewer on my laptop to access my ubuntu desktop using 196.168.1.XXX
[11:35] <jenda> ompaul: Add "To ask ubotu, /msg ubotu <factoid>" or something like that. It took me a while before I figured out that it's not /msg ubotu !<f> or /msg ubotu tell me about <f> etc.
[11:35] <sethk> erUSUL, yes
[11:36] <nickrud> faqonirc does need a lot of loving care
[11:36] <Seveas> nickrud, it's a wiki
[11:36] <Seveas> edit it
[11:36] <nickrud> ;P
[11:36] <MystaMax> when installing using apt-get will it auto add a menu item to Applications???
[11:37] <MystaMax> for that program?
[11:37] <anders_> Can I ask some questions about Beagle on Dapper?
[11:37] <lamego> MystaMax, it depends on the application, most applications do
[11:37] <lamego> anatole, i think dapper is on #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <MystaMax> ah ok
[11:37] <anders_> thx
[11:37] <nickrud> I have my ideas about that page, but sometimes I have blind spots about what people want to know
[11:37] <FlannelKing> where's the O!
[11:38] <MystaMax> i have no better way of asking this so i'll just ask...
[11:38] <Seveas> meh
[11:38] <Seveas> I suck
[11:38] <FlannelKing> heh
[11:38] <erUSUL> sethk, you misstyped is ./configure (no capital C)
[11:38] <eugman> I know it's for helping the disabled but this dasher program is really fun...
[11:38] <sethk> erUSUL, I didn't type it at all, so I cannot have mistyped it
[11:38] <MystaMax> windows uses "program files" as the standard directory for program installation. what is it for Ubuntu/linux?
[11:38] <mwe> heh
[11:38] <FlannelKing> eugman: yeah, dasher is a gem.
[11:38] <mwe> MystaMax: binaries go to /usr/bin usually
[11:38] <erUSUL> sethman, you misstyped is ./configure (no capital C)
[11:39] <eugman> Itit's fun to just let my mind run and add words as fast as I can.
[11:39] <mwe> MystaMax: but files are scattered according to type (libraries, config files, etc).
[11:39] <erUSUL> sethk, the msg was for sethman not for you sorry (tab completion...) 8^P
[11:40] <leagris> Updated dapper gives very small fixed font in thunderbird. Any idea ?
[11:40] <Seveas> leagris, buy glasses
[11:40] <FlannelKing> MystaMax: http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg and http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[11:40] <blindx> =)
[11:40] <spine> ubuntu wont setup my cd-burner drive correctly, ive been stuck having to boot to windows and use IFS to access the linux volume but after having so many problems and having a motherboard without LBA32 i decided to finally switch entirely, i cant burn cds now.
[11:40] <sethman> thank you  erUSUL. However, I have tried both ways. There is no configure file in the tarball file.
[11:40] <leagris> thanks Seveas ;D
[11:40] <blindx> :)
[11:40] <Multipel> I would to have some quick help here about sfv-checking. Is it possible to check one folder and every sub-folder it contains?
[11:40] <crimsun> leagris: fontconfig update, resolution for that issue noted in the changelog. Basically, fix firefox's fonts prefs.
[11:40] <Yan^> lamego: oh gosh, same thing happens again, I commented all the lines in the list, and it says again: unable to get exclusive lock
[11:41] <lamego> YaH00, uh, exclusive lock ? thats not the error you were reporting
[11:41] <lamego> that means another app is using the packages db
[11:41] <leagris> how do I update/do/rix it crimsun ?
[11:41] <leagris> fix
[11:41] <Yan^> lamego: yes this is the error. I do not have any other al\pplication running
[11:41] <spine> ubuntu wont setup my cd-burner drive correctly, ive been stuck having to boot to windows and use IFS to access the linux volume but after having so many problems and having a motherboard without LBA32 i decided to finally switch entirely, i cant burn cds now.
[11:41] <incon> hi tring to learn how to use the linux build tools (autoconf) and i have a little problem in /usr/share/libtool i cant find install.sh yet config.guess and config.sub are there....
[11:42] <sethman> erUSUL: Is a ./configure file necessary to use "make"
[11:42] <Yan^> Lamego: i just put the dvd in the drive and trying to add it to the repository
[11:42] <lamego> Yan^, let me try to figure the lock file for the db so I can tell you how to find the process which is locking it
[11:42] <crimsun> leagris: Edit> Preferences> Content> Fonts & Colors
[11:42] <erUSUL> sethman, sethman you run ./configure and then you run make
[11:42] <Yan^> lamegoi: just tell me what i should do I will
[11:43] <erUSUL> sethman, have you instaled kernel headers
[11:43] <mwe> sethman: some programs do not come with a configure file
[11:43] <erUSUL> ?
[11:43] <mwe> sethman: but they come with README and/or INSTALL files usually
[11:43] <AndyNeedsHelp> Hi everyone. I am having a problem printing photos. The comp needs to be able to use one prgram for RAW and JPEGS (so Gthumb is out :( ) and I am trying DigiKam. It does everything except print
[11:43] <leagris> crimsun, thunderbird prefernces ?
[11:44] <AndyNeedsHelp> the printing takes forever which is simply not useable. So does anyone know why?Its a canon i9950 Printer that works brilliantly through some programs
[11:44] <AndyNeedsHelp> why not DigiKam!?
[11:44] <crimsun> leagris: I don't use TB, but I presume so
[11:44] <LathropWells> AndyNeedsHelp, - did "gutenprint" do anything for you? (prints using the GIMP)
[11:44] <sethman> erUSAL & mwe: I have run  "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and " sudo apt-get install kernel-package"
[11:44] <leagris> previously it was at default 12point ant that displayed ok yesterday
[11:44] <Yan^> lamego: by the way, when I try to add the CD there is a strange message in the terminal  besides the "exclusive lock" it says assertion 'gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) !=NULL' failed
[11:44] <mwe> sethman: yes
[11:45] <AndyNeedsHelp> havent tried that one yet. The Gimp normally is very slow aswell for printing to it
[11:45] <lamego> yacc, sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:45] <leagris> crimsun, today I have to scale fixed to 16pixels and font drawing is not the same, look thinner and barely readable
[11:45] <sethman> mwe: there is a readme and it says to run "make"
[11:45] <lamego> i mean, yan...
[11:45] <AndyNeedsHelp> i shall have a look. Anyother thoughts on the matter? is there another way to setup to the printer apart from CUPS?
[11:45] <mwe> sethman: and what are you trying to do?
[11:45] <lamego> it will give you the pid of the process locking the dpkg db
[11:45] <lamego> you can heck it with: ps -fp pid
[11:45] <incon> anyone about to help me with my autoconf problem ?
[11:45] <lamego> and kill it
[11:45] <mwe> sethman: I missed what happens when you type make
[11:46] <AndyNeedsHelp> LathropWells
[11:46] <mwe> sethman: what are you even trying to install?
[11:46] <LathropWells> ?
[11:46] <blindx> I just isntalled Java for Firefox, but it's not working?
[11:46] <AndyNeedsHelp> LathropWells: is Gutenprint the same as Gimp Print? because I do that that
[11:46] <sethman> mwe: My pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12112
[11:46] <Concretesledge> is anyone around that likes to mess with VNC
[11:46] <crimsun> leagris: see the fontconfig changelog.
[11:46] <LathropWells> other than cups? i am too know. don't think so.
[11:47] <leagris> ok putting monospace font to 14pixels restore same rendering as with 12pts previously
[11:47] <Yan^> lamego: ok, i will try now, but tell me: this will always behave like this? for every small packege to install I should do all the thing?
[11:47] <LathropWells> yes, it is the same as gimp print
[11:47] <AndyNeedsHelp> hmm
[11:47] <AndyNeedsHelp> I will play with it again. That would do something. Don't supose you use RAW format at all?
[11:47] <skpl> can someone tell me where to save my cursor themes?
[11:47] <Multipel> Does anybody here understand how cfv and/or chsfv works?
[11:48] <mwe> sethman: did you install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[11:48] <Concretesledge> im trying to use a Physical disk , in VMware
[11:48] <LathropWells> AndyNeedsHelp, - no, sorry...
[11:48] <scorp2025> hi, I'm trying to install the newest ati drivers but as soon as I start the installer the output is this: Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x700' directory. I am using dapper drake. Any ideas?
[11:48] <AndyNeedsHelp> LathropWells: thanks for the help, I will keep going and googling. It must be something stupid that makes the printer take so long to do anything
[11:48] <sethman> mwe: I will try that again
[11:49] <lamego> Yan^, no there was some problem which left a process hanging the lock
[11:49] <Yan^> lamego: pid is 7691, but "top" shows NO PROCESS running as 7691
[11:49] <Jackie_> does anyone have vistaBut GTK theme?
[11:50] <lamego> Yan^, do: ps -fp 7691
[11:50] <Yan^> ok, doin
[11:50] <sean> If I install xubuntu-desktop, will that replace anything in kubuntu-desktop? (I prefer KDM)
[11:50] <Multipel> Sean: No.
[11:50] <mwe> sean: no
[11:50] <Multipel> sean: You can have both.
[11:50] <blindx> I just isntalled Java for Firefox, but it's not working?
[11:50] <mwe> sean: it will install xcfe4 along kde
[11:50] <sean> thanks!
[11:50] <Yan^> lamego: it says: root 7691   1 0 o6,40 /usr/bin/python2.4 ... etc
[11:51] <mwe> blindx: maybe you didn't create the correct symlink
[11:51] <blindx> quite possibly.
[11:51] <blindx> Considering I don't know wtf I'm doing.
[11:51] <Multipel> sean: I Gnome you change desktop in sessions when you logging in.
[11:51] <mwe> blindx: there should be a link to the java plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[11:51] <Multipel> sean: It might be the same i KDE.
[11:51] <mwe> blindx: did you install sun java or what?
[11:52] <blindx> yes
[11:52] <Yan^> lamego: and then??
[11:52] <andre_> bla
[11:52] <mwe> blindx: did you create the link?
[11:52] <weazelb0y> Just installed ubuntu and I downloaded sun-jdk and eclipse...but eclipse wont run, failing trying to find pango-1.4 stuff...how do I upgrade pango?
[11:52] <andre_> quit
[11:52] <lamego> Yan^, kill -9 7691
[11:52] <blindx> I'm not sure, mwe.. I downloaded the .bin file.. then chmodded it, then ran it.
[11:52] <lamego> it is a python script using the lock
[11:52] <leagris> Ok, now default fontconfig settings excludes bitmapped fonts an some aliases changes
[11:52] <blindx> and it said "done" so i closed the console.
[11:52] <mrchrisblau> Good afternoon everybody
[11:52] <mwe> blindx: oh
[11:53] <CraiZE> hello, i updated compiz, and now suddenly it doesnt work anymore, is there a way to revert back to the old one?
[11:53] <mwe> blindx: what bin was that? the sun official one?
[11:53] <Yan^> lamego: killed! should I reboot?
[11:53] <Concretesledge> is anyyone familiar with installing UBUNtu onto a physical/bootable using vmware workstation
[11:53] <lamego> Yan^, no, you should be ok now
[11:53] <blindx> The only thing in ~/.mozilla/plugins is flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so
[11:53] <Yan^> lamego:tryin ;))
[11:54] <lamego> Concretesledge, physical bootable ?
[11:54] <blindx> things* are*
[11:54] <joseph> trying
[11:54] <joseph> ping
[11:54] <mwe> blindx: ok. where did the .bin install java?
[11:54] <lamego> Concretesledge, I am familiar with installing it on a vm disk
[11:54] <mrchrisblau> Are the Ubuntu forums working for everybody?
[11:54] <blindx> yeah, right off the java page
[11:54] <blindx> /usr/java
[11:54] <joseph> i just installed java
[11:54] <Yan^> lamego: the same message: unable to get exclusive lock
[11:54] <leagris> crimsun, I'm visually impaired, so, these are typical settings that becomes critical here. And glasses don't help on retina deffects either ;D
[11:54] <lamego> Yan^, reboot :)
[11:54] <mwe> blindx: find the plugins dir in /usr/java
[11:55] <Yan^> lamego :)))
[11:55] <Concretesledge> lamego i just want to install it using the ISO onto a hardrive
[11:55] <Concretesledge> is there a way
[11:55] <mwe> blindx: btw I'd recommend !javadebs
[11:55] <crimsun> leagris: simply put, FF/TB/etc. need to be reconfigured.
[11:55] <sethman> mwe: my pastebin results: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12113
[11:55] <lamego> Concretesledge, sure, just create a vm disk, and setup the cdrom to use the iso, you can boot and install from it to the vm disk
[11:55] <skpl> can someone tell me how to install a cursor theme?
[11:55] <blindx> !javadebs
[11:55] <Concretesledge> lamego i want to bea ble to use grub to mutli boot
[11:55] <blindx> ?
[11:56] <leagris> crimsun, done that, because the default settings are now too small.
[11:56] <Concretesledge> you know what i mean
[11:56] <lamego> Concretesledge, uh ? multiboot on a VM ?
[11:56] <pashminet> Double_D: dearest?
[11:56] <mwe> sethman: yeah already installed
[11:56] <Double_D> pashminet: yes?
[11:56] <Concretesledge> no no no.. i want to install Ubuntu onto F: harddrive.
[11:56] <Concretesledge> stand alone
[11:56] <mwe> blindx: hmm. that usually works
[11:56] <Concretesledge> but i dont have teh CD, or a cd burner
[11:56] <blindx> it pm'd it
[11:56] <lamego> no I don't. One thing is to boot inside a VM, another thing is to dual boot, which is booting completely to another OS
[11:56] <pashminet> Double_D: dr_dos. what is going on?
[11:56] <mwe> blindx: ok good then
[11:57] <blindx> thanks, mew
[11:57] <lamego> Concretesledge, you just need to create the vmware disk on the F: drive
[11:57] <blindx> mwe*
[11:57] <lamego> and setup it to read the cd from the iso file
[11:57] <Concretesledge> lamego lol. if i do that it says no OS
[11:57] <mwe> blindx: you should still create the symlink
[11:57] <Concretesledge> please insert disk
[11:57] <Double_D> pashminet: one minute, on the phone with a customer.  i'll see what i can find out.
[11:57] <PwcrLinux> Hmm Java package no such or dir on seavas's http line in the sypnatic after I edited the source.list..
[11:57] <pashminet> Double_D: sure, thanks!
[11:58] <lamego> Concretesledge, no it does not, if it does thats is because you dont know to use vmware, and you didn't specified to use the iso file for the cdrom device
[11:58] <Howitzer> Does the UDSF have a list of RETAIL games which you can natively play on Linux?
[11:58] <Yan^> lamego: gosh, the same thing ! what is wrong? is it a known bug? the thing means that I just can not work with the distro
[11:58] <Concretesledge> lamego care to give it a try, usiNG vnc ?
[11:58] <lamego> and you didn't selected on the vmware bios to boot from the cdrom
[11:58] <Concretesledge> hm
[11:58] <Concretesledge> thats a good idea, mess with the bios
[11:58] <blindx> mwe: i don't know what a symlink is, much less how to create one
[11:59] <sethman> mwe: would you be willing to look at the tarball file for me and see if you can get it to compile? http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2570-cvs-daily.tar.gz .
[11:59] <mwe> blindx: I'll tell you
[11:59] <lamego> Concretesledge, you need to hit the key to select the boot device or to boot from the cdrom, i am not sure which is they key right now
[11:59] <lamego> Concretesledge, i use ubuntu inside vm, everyday...
[11:59] <vixtor> hei
[11:59] <mwe> blindx: If I were you I'd remove /usr/java install javadebs. then come back and I'll tell you how to create the link
[11:59] <Yan^> lamego: by the way, now sudo fuser etc. give the empty line!
[12:00] <lamego> Yan^, so, just sudo rm the file