[03:24] <bigy> Colossus: it takes 5 mins that rebuild a new kernel
[03:24] <snausages> guys, how can i add a 192kbps vbr rip setting to sound juicer?
[03:24] <delaney> When i log in it says   "ERROR FAILED TO INITIALIZE HAL"
[03:24] <snausages> i have this line: audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc vbr=4 vbr-quality=5
[03:24] <delaney> What does it mean.. and how can i fix it?
[03:25] <snausages> but i don't know how to make that come out to 192kbps/vbr
[03:25] <Diffindo> i have jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin and I want to use that
[03:25] <bigy> Diffindo: hehe
[03:25] <Colossus> bigy: sure, but I did it a bit ago. Do I need to build 2.6.12?
[03:25] <Diffindo> I simply need a clue as to adding the multiverse repo
[03:25] <ram_> hi
[03:26] <ram_> i am new to ubuntu
[03:26] <nekohayo> am I the only one who can't load random images in xscreensaver? I just tested with only TWO pictures, and they display one time out of five
[03:26] <GH0|HP> Naolith - 88c0d18ee3dfee3fb2e2651c75044db3
[03:26] <ram_> how can i reduce the size of fonts
[03:26] <giovann> how to play with my mp3 ?
[03:26] <Madpilot> !tell giovann about mp3
[03:26] <bigy> Colossus: I don't know... because I don't use the ramdisk in 2.6.x
[03:27] <djm62> ram_: in what application?
[03:27] <gaidys> guys why are you using ubuntu
[03:27] <gaidys> isnt any better distros?
[03:27] <Diffindo> Ok
[03:27] <nalioth> GH0|HP: you should compare that number against whatever source you received it
[03:27] <bigy> Colossus: tmpfs is much better
[03:27] <Diffindo> I noticed two checkboxes in Synaptic...
[03:27] <nekohayo> gaidys, try it yourself.
[03:27] <GH0|HP> By how, I downloaded straight from the site.
[03:27] <ugo> nice one boys
[03:27] <nalioth> !tell giovann about restricted
[03:27] <Diffindo> There's nothing in here...
[03:27] <lundner> no there isn't a better distro ...i've tried many distros but this is the best @ gaudys :-D
[03:28] <ugo> i just did a reboot after a dist-upgrade
[03:28] <giovann> what ?
[03:28] <nalioth> GH0|HP: go to the d/l page and look for the md5 file onsite (should be where you got the link for the image)
[03:28] <ugo> i like the new bootsplash image
[03:28] <ram_> applications other than created using gtk like xmms k3b
[03:28] <ugo> now what we need is picture of kiss in the background....
[03:28] <ugo> for the kids
[03:29] <djm62> ram_: if you can run "kcontrol" from the terminal you can change the theme and font size for the "k....." applications
[03:29] <ram_> no i am using only gnome i have not installed kde
[03:30] <GH0|HP> Naolith - 88c0d18ee3dfee3fb2e2651c75044db3  ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[03:30] <nalioth> ram_: System > preferences > font
[03:30] <Diffindo> Allelujia!
[03:30] <Diffindo> I got it!
[03:30] <GH0|HP> Same md5
[03:30] <Diffindo> Yippee!
[03:30] <djm62> ram_: k3b is a kde app, so it follows kde themes, which makes it look funny in gnome
[03:30] <nalioth> GH0|HP: then try burning your iso at a slower speed
[03:30] <ram_> xmms menus
[03:31] <GH0|HP> Okay
[03:31] <lundner> is there a good alternative to k3b?! ...
[03:31] <terrel> hi what's up...
[03:31] <djm62> anyone remember the name of that gtk1 theme changer?
[03:31] <bigy> lundner: cdrecord
[03:31] <nalioth> lundner: not really but you can try gnomebaker or graveman
[03:31] <terrel> I want to mount a reiserfs system, how do i do it?
[03:31] <djm62> lundner: I like gnomebaker
[03:31] <giovann> how to share my folder ?
[03:32] <giovann> hwo to share my folder to another computer ?
[03:32] <nekohayo> lundner, there's nero for linux... and gnomebaker... I don't think gnomebaker is up to k3b yet
[03:32] <Foodcoman> How are people backing up Video DVD on Breezy? Wine/DVD shrink?
[03:32] <lundner> i'll try it :-)
[03:32] <lundner> i tried nero for linux ...it looks not very nice and it was not as good as k3b
[03:33] <nalioth> Foodcoman: there are linux native tools to work with dvd
[03:33] <bigy> lundner: so KISS the cdrecord
[03:33] <Foodcoman> Hook a brother up!   =)
[03:34] <glenn_> hello
[03:35] <nalioth> Foodcoman: do not msg me, please
[03:35] <glenn_> how to install sofware on ubuntu:
[03:35] <glenn_> how to install sofware on ubuntu?
[03:35] <lundner> gnomebaker looks like it is easy to use :-)
[03:35] <Foodcoman> nalioth:  Sorry
[03:35] <apokryphos> lundner: not as featureful as K3b though, unfortunatley.
[03:35] <nalioth> !tell glenn_ about synaptic
[03:35] <glenn_> how to install java?
[03:35] <nalioth> glenn_: ubotu is sending you some info
[03:35] <nalioth> !tell glenn_ about java
[03:36] <lundner> apokryphos, : yes but it sufficient for my needs :-)
[03:36] <ugo> !tell ugo about spandex
[03:36] <apokryphos> lundner: excellent, then. :)
[03:36] <Diffindo> How do I create a launcher for a terminal command?
[03:37] <ugo> !tell ugo about ugo
[03:37] <apokryphos> Diffindo: do you mean, how can I make an executable so that it would run form a command?
[03:37] <lundner> what does this !tell mean? ...is this a function here in this chat ...can somebody explain it to me :-)
[03:37] <ugo> damm...this bot is a dunce
[03:37] <apokryphos> Diffindo: place the executable (or a symbolic link to the executable) in ~/bin  (for your user), or /usr/bin (for global)
[03:38] <apokryphos> lundner: yup
[03:38] <Madpilot> !tell lundner about ubotu
[03:38] <ugo> !tell lunder about ubotu
[03:38] <apokryphos> lundner: the bot responds to the "!tell"
[03:38] <apokryphos> lundner: it has some built-in factoids (which anyone can add/edit), and you can use the tell command to provide information using him.
[03:39] <allen> i've installed wine in my machine. do I just run .exe files to install windows programs?
[03:39] <solidgroove> wine *.exe
[03:39] <allen> thanks
[03:39] <lundner> wow fascinating!! :-D
[03:39] <apokryphos> lundner: very handy, yes. :)
[03:39] <solidgroove> cedega finally works, I needed libpng3
[03:39] <Diffindo> well
[03:40] <makkk> lundner, how do you use it?
[03:40] <Madpilot> lundner: at least half of looking like you know what you're talking about here is knowing how to poke ubotu... ;)
[03:40] <glenn_> how can i play a sound on ubuntu
[03:40] <Diffindo> that was interesting
[03:40] <glenn_> how can i play a sound on ubuntu
[03:40] <allen> will i be able to try and test Yahoo Messenger now using wine?
[03:40] <allen> glenn
[03:40] <solidgroove> if Yahoo messenger is supported or if works
[03:40] <allen> ok gotcha
[03:40] <makkk> !tell makkk about ubotu
[03:40] <allen> where can I get cedega?
[03:40] <ugo> allen: have you tried gaim yet
[03:40] <allen> gaim? what's that?
[03:41] <lundner> Madpilot, loool
[03:41] <Diffindo> Could someone be a nice person and Email me a precompiled version of Cedega?
[03:41] <allen> ok got it
[03:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell allen about cedega
[03:41] <ugo> gaim's a chat client like yahoo messenger
[03:41] <Diffindo> I'm too scared to get the CVS tree and doink with that...
[03:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Diffindo about cedega
[03:41] <makkk> !tell me about add
[03:41] <mustafu> !tell me about cedega
[03:42] <Diffindo> lunder
[03:42] <allen> but can it connect to Yahoo's server?
[03:42] <nalioth> !msg the bot
[03:42] <Diffindo> thank you
[03:42] <ugo> but its been "arnied" up to support yahoo, msn, jabber, zephyer, gadu gadu...etc
[03:42] <apokryphos> makkk, mustafu: you can /msg the bot too
[03:42] <Diffindo> WTF...
[03:42] <allen> oh good
[03:42] <ugo> so you get the distinct advantage of all your buddies in one application
[03:42] <Diffindo> 15.7 kbps???
[03:42] <makkk> !tell me about cedega
[03:42] <rossa> hai
[03:42] <apokryphos> makkk: please /msg the bot when you wish to get some info from the bot.
[03:42] <ugo> you could also try trillian on windows....gives you the same effect....
[03:42] <Diffindo> I am NOT paying $21 per month for DSL for THAT!
[03:42] <makkk> !msg the bot
[03:43] <x[trick] x> i downloaded the kubuntu 386 iso then i burn it on a cd..  i cant install it on my computer :(
[03:43] <TokenBad> in kb3 is there a way to burn mp3's into a normal audio cd for playing in cd player that don't have mp3 support?
[03:43] <apokryphos> makkk: type /msg ubotu <factoid>
[03:43] <nalioth> x[trick] x: check your md5s on burnt disc and iso image
[03:43] <lundner> yeah sorry diffindo i have dsl too and my upload is not better :-S
[03:44] <x[trick] x> i've burnt it one iso already
[03:44] <Diffindo> wel
[03:44] <nalioth> x[trick] x: then check your iso image md5
[03:44] <lundner> Diffindo, my downstream is fortunatly higher (about 125 kb/s or 100kbit/s)
[03:44] <Diffindo> wit is better than my old dial-up
[03:44] <Diffindo> : )
[03:44] <Diffindo> no compliants...
[03:44] <flyingpenguin> Hello guys
[03:44] <flyingpenguin> whats up
[03:44] <x[trick] x> how could i check that?
[03:44] <lundner> ;-)
[03:45] <solidgroove> TokenBad, you can make audio cd's
[03:45] <x[trick] x> i burn it iso (Mode1)
[03:45] <Diffindo> 4 mins for a 7 MB file is quite quick as compared to my old stuff...
[03:46] <Diffindo> right
[03:46] <Diffindo> well
[03:46] <serfurj> does anybody know why my ncurses apps are all distorted and have accented "a" characters
[03:46] <Diffindo> I'm having issues with my soundcard
[03:46] <z3r0x> hi
[03:46] <nalioth> x[trick] x: open a terminal and type "man md5sum"
[03:46] <Diffindo> It is an AC'97 compliant Onboard audio
[03:46] <x[trick] x> nalioth im still using windows now
[03:46] <serfurj> it happens in aterm
[03:47] <Diffindo> I may get XP (the legal way) and start a dual-boot...
[03:47] <nalioth> x[trick] x: then search www.freewarehome.com for an md6 utility
[03:47] <lundner> what problem do you have diffindo?!
[03:47] <z3r0x> I have a problem with my sound device. All system sounds are working but I have no sound when I try to watch a movie or listen sound over xmms...does anybody know what the problem is?
[03:47] <Diffindo> I have no audio
[03:47] <nalioth> x[trick] x: an md5 utility, even
[03:47] <lundner> i have an AC'97 too
[03:47] <wapuru> hello
[03:48] <Diffindo> lunder: no sound at all
[03:48] <lundner> hmm do you have a newer(i can't remember the right englisch word) mainboard
[03:48] <ssdd65> what are good readings for glxgears?
[03:48] <Diffindo> kindaish
[03:48] <solidgroove> my fx5200 is 1600
[03:49] <Diffindo> lunder: it's a biostar p4vma-m v7.3 MB
[03:49] <h4zn__> how do i eject my cd?
[03:49] <nalioth> lundner: that is the correct englisch word  :)
[03:49] <lundner> cool
[03:49] <Diffindo> h4zn__ right click on the CD and select eject
[03:49] <h4zn__> the button doexs not work
[03:49] <sproingie> glxgears in breezy doesn't even show fps
[03:49] <sproingie> gl fireworks with a fps display would probably be a better benchmark anyway
[03:49] <ssdd65> i have a s3 savage 2000 and its readin there about 129fps :/
[03:49] <h4zn__> Diffindo, thanks
[03:50] <Diffindo> lunder
[03:50] <Diffindo> That DCC is down
[03:50] <Diffindo> done
[03:50] <nalioth> lundner: what lanuages do you think in?
[03:50] <Diffindo> How to I install
[03:50] <lundner> hmm ... i have no idea how i could help you diffindo ... maybe you use google
[03:50] <lundner> nalioth, german
[03:51] <nalioth> lundner: doch
[03:51] <lundner> ;-)
[03:51] <aynomus> HELP! i have ubuntu and winXP and i want to unistall ubuntu, how do i do that?
[03:51] <lundner> nalioth, you too?!
[03:51] <nalioth> aynomus: make some space
[03:51] <aynomus> space for what?
[03:52] <Joe41> hi guys - do you know when they are gonna publish ubuntu 5.10?
[03:52] <z3r0x>  I have a problem with my sound device. All system sounds are working but I have no sound when I try to watch a movie or listen sound over xmms...does anybody know what the problem is?
[03:52] <nalioth> lundner: i speak 4 languages somewhat
[03:52] <nalioth> Joe41: oct 13
[03:52] <fossa> hi
[03:52] <Joe41> ah great
[03:52] <Joe41> thx
[03:52] <lundner> nalioth, oh ha!! fluently?!
[03:52] <fossa> remind me how to update synaptic to the universe servers pls
[03:52] <Diffindo> aynomus, use a windows boot floppy, type fdisk and delete the NON-DOS partition
[03:52] <x[trick] x> nalioth im already checking my file with mat-md5
[03:52] <nalioth> lundner: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:52] <aynomus> kk thanks
[03:52] <solidgroove> z3r0x, in console type alsamixer and if there are two MM select that and use M key
[03:53] <solidgroove> then alsactl store
[03:53] <nalioth> aynomus: hold that
[03:53] <lundner> z3r0x, you need to start the right sound-engine in the applications ;-)
[03:53] <nalioth> aynomus: what kind of box are you puttin ubuntu on
[03:53] <Joe41> will there be huge differences between the 5.10pre and the final? does anyone know?
[03:54] <nalioth> Joe41: not that big a deal, just polishing
[03:54] <sproingie> yay, got fglrx working 100% in breezy now
[03:54] <z3r0x> lundner, I didn't change anything yesterday it worked well
[03:54] <Joe41> i guess some bugs concerning stability, right?
[03:54] <nalioth> Joe41: correct, we are in the bug squashing period now
[03:55] <x[trick] x> nalioth just want ot clarify.. i've downloaded a 386iso kubuntu.. dont i have to uncopressed that file??
[03:55] <sproingie> x[trick] x: you burn it to a cd
[03:55] <nalioth> x[trick] x: no sir. burn it with your favorite cd burning tool
[03:55] <x[trick] x> i've burnt it alrady
[03:55] <sproingie> x[trick] x: then you boot from it
[03:55] <Agrajag> it's not compressed
[03:55] <x[trick] x> i burn it with nero already
[03:56] <sproingie> x[trick] x: stick it in your cdrom, reboot
[03:56] <Joe41> are u guys using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[03:56] <x[trick] x> i've already burnt it 2x the first time i uncompressed it
[03:56] <lundner> i use ubuntu breezy
[03:56] <Agrajag> how do you uncompress an iso?
[03:56] <Agrajag> it's not compressed.
[03:57] <x[trick] x> ok..
[03:57] <Diffindo> Does anyone know how to use a .deb file to install cedega?
[03:57] <ugo> @agrajag i think you would want to mount it using the loopback device
[03:57] <nalioth> Agrajag: you dont. you burn it with a cd burning program
[03:57] <Joe41> is besides the layout a real difference between gnome and kde??
[03:57] <Agrajag> wow guys
[03:57] <x[trick] x> i burn it to another cd.. uncompressed but still i dint run to my computer
[03:57] <ugo> then you could extract the files you need
[03:57] <z3r0x> @ solidgroove It didn't work...
[03:57] <Agrajag> I'm talking to x[trick] x.
[03:57] <Joe41> of course also besides structure..
[03:57] <nalioth> Joe41: i dont understand?
[03:57] <Agrajag> He said he uncompressed an iso.
[03:57] <solidgroove> Diffindo, dpkg -i cedega*.deb
[03:57] <lundner> Diffindo, dpkg -i cedega.deb
[03:57] <moparfan90> hello if i open a porgam in terminal how can i close the terminal with out closing the program?
[03:57] <Diffindo> YAYY!
[03:57] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: an iso image is ont compressed.
[03:57] <Diffindo> ty
[03:57] <solidgroove> z3r0x, did you unmute the master channel?
[03:58] <Agrajag> What did you do to it?
[03:58] <z3r0x> yes sure
[03:58] <Joe41> i mean is it just some people like gnome better, some not or is there also something about stability and so on
[03:58] <nalioth> x[trick] x: when you download the iso, you dont do anything with it except burn it straight to disk
[03:58] <sproingie> moparfan90: normally you should use the run command from the gui for that
[03:58] <solidgroove> z3r0x, then you need sound server running or the module for your sound card isnt loading with alsa
[03:58] <x[trick] x> i've dont it nalith
[03:58] <x[trick] x> nalioth
[03:58] <moparfan90> oo
[03:58] <moparfan90> ok
[03:58] <nickrud> moparfan90, you can use disown
[03:58] <nalioth> Joe41: you can use any WM you like on ubuntu
[03:58] <sproingie> moparfan90: otherwise you can background it and use the 'disown' command
[03:58] <x[trick] x> but still i didnt work
[03:58] <fossa> hi
[03:58] <pizzaiolo> hi
[03:58] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: after you burned the iso image, without "uncompressing" it, or whatever you did, what is on the disc?
[03:59] <Diffindo> Would someone repeat that command?
[03:59] <x[trick] x> when i restart my computer with the cd on my dirve it says system disk error :(
[03:59] <z3r0x> solidgroove, but the systemsounds are working (shutdown sound, login sound ...)
[03:59] <fossa> synaptic... how do i point it to the universe and world?
[03:59] <Diffindo> lunder?
[03:59] <Agrajag> If you look at it in windows explorer or some such
[03:59] <Diffindo> Could you repeat that?
[03:59] <sproingie> x[trick] x: you burnt yourself a coaster
[03:59] <Joe41> sure but i always used on debian either gnome or kde... i prefered kde... i just wanted to know if either one or an other is better - technically speaking
[03:59] <x[trick] x> i've burn the same file that i donwnloaded
[03:59] <solidgroove> z3r0x, what sounds aren't working?
[03:59] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: how did you burn it?
[03:59] <Ainvar> fossa go to www.ubuntuguid.org
[03:59] <sproingie> x[trick] x: did you verify the burn?
[03:59] <lundner> Joe41,  i had both kubuntu and ubuntu ... first i liked kubuntu more but after i while i recognized that ubuntu works more stable
[03:59] <x[trick] x> i used nero
[03:59] <Agrajag> If you put that CD in your computer right now, what files are on it?
[03:59] <djm62> Joe41: there's no clear difference between the two, try both, choose your favourite, or choose something completely different
[03:59] <Ainvar> you will see an area showing you a step by step guide on how to do add those
[03:59] <djm62> !ubuntuguide
[03:59] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:59] <fossa> ok
[03:59] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: used it how? What is on the disc right now?
[03:59] <z3r0x> watsch movies with vlc or listen to music with xmms
[04:00] <reiki> ubotu tell Ainvar about ubuntuguide
[04:00] <sproingie> x[trick] x: make sure you burn an _image_ and not a _data_ cd
[04:00] <Agrajag> $10 says the only thing on the disc is a .iso file
[04:00] <solidgroove> z3r0x, maybe a application setting
[04:00] <x[trick] x> ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386
[04:00] <Ainvar> ubotu I used it along with the forums to do what I needed to do
[04:00] <ubotu> Ainvar: Are you smoking crack?
[04:00] <Agrajag> yep.
[04:00] <sproingie> jeepers, how do you screw up nero
[04:00] <sproingie> Agrajag: wasnt gonna take that bet
[04:00] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: You burned it wrong.
[04:00] <x[trick] x> ngak!
[04:00] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: burn it as a disc image.
[04:00] <djm62> Ainvar: uBOTu is a bot
[04:00] <pizzaiolo> how do i use "update-menus" ? i installed many packages that put a configuration file in /usr/lib/menu but i cant make them appear
[04:01] <Ainvar> ubotu nope, I used it for refrence
[04:01] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Ainvar
[04:01] <kevogod> That was a great answer from ubotu.
[04:01] <Agrajag> That's what it is.
[04:01] <kevogod> Haha
[04:01] <Joe41> i see... i always had the roubles with my ipw2200 wireless... (k)ubuntu - they have been the only ones who installed the mod right at the beginning..
[04:01] <Ainvar> ahh
[04:01] <z3r0x> solidgroove, but it worked yesterday.... and I didn't change anything...(I already checked the settings)
[04:01] <Joe41> they also reallized the other pc's in the windows net and their names
[04:01] <x[trick] x> so what should be the filename after i burnt it right??>
[04:01] <fossa> i don't see it there
[04:01] <Joe41> amazing OS
[04:01] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: it would be an entire directory tree.
[04:01] <Agrajag> not just one file.
[04:02] <sproingie> x[trick] x: you should have a lot of filenames.  click the "burn image" button, not "burn data CD" button
[04:02] <fossa> ah! 'repositories'
[04:02] <Agrajag> just go to file > burn image...
[04:02] <Agrajag> and choose that file to burn
[04:02] <Joe41> currently i'm struggeling with my PDA and synce
[04:02] <allen> how do I run an app I installed through wine?
[04:02] <z3r0x> solidgroove, I have maybe 5 things that are MM on alsamixer...
[04:03] <x[trick] x> ok i have my nero open.. after i click the file... it has an option burn image,
[04:03] <x[trick] x> i'll used that one??
[04:03] <Agrajag> yes
[04:03] <don824chan> how do I get universe stuff into synapse again?
[04:03] <pizzaiolo> how do you make appear items from /usr/lib/menu in the gnome menu ?
[04:03] <don824chan> synaptic*
[04:03] <x[trick] x> ok.. thanks
[04:04] <solidgroove> z3r0x, thats weird sorry i cant help you anymore
[04:04] <z3r0x> ok thx
[04:04] <oogabooga> which is more secure:  osx or linux?
[04:04] <don824chan> anyone?  I just forgot how to add universe
[04:04] <solidgroove> don824chan, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:04] <solidgroove> i just did that
[04:04] <allen> how do I run an app I installed through wine?
[04:04] <don824chan> nvm
[04:04] <djm62> oogabooga: it's six and half-a-dozen
[04:05] <Diffindo> how do I install a .deb file?
[04:05] <fanskapet> anyone familiar in booting BeOS with GRUB?
[04:05] <djm62> allen: there's a .wine directory in your home dir.
[04:05] <oogabooga> djm62, what do you mean?
[04:05] <allen> ok thanks
[04:05] <pizzaiolo> so everybody install software and launch it using the command line or is there a way to make appear items from /usr/lib/menu in the gnome menu ?.. lol
[04:05] <nalioth> oogabooga: they are both unixes, and inherently secure
[04:05] <djm62> oogabooga: both of them are pretty secure, neither are absolutely secure, and the security level can change with time
[04:05] <oogabooga> nalioth, ah i see
[04:05] <hablandocontigo> Hello, I try to connect to my ubuntu nfs folder that is on a wire router along with my mac os x laptop but I get: "The server may not exist or it is not operational at this time. Check the server name or IP address and try again."
[04:05] <Agrajag> fanskapet: works the same as booting windows
[04:06] <sproingie> pizzaiolo: usually the installer puts it there.  otherwise you have to use a tool like smeg to edit the menu
[04:06] <reiki> osx is linux with.... TPM I think it's called... and apple is porting to intel architecture. OS 10.4.2 is with developers now for intel
[04:06] <lundner> allen,  type in the console wine *.exe
[04:06] <Agrajag> reiki: osx is not linux
[04:06] <Diffindo> How do I install a .deb file?
[04:06] <Agrajag> osx is mostly based on freebsd
[04:06] <fanskapet> Agrajag,  well i cannot boot it.. just gives me an error
[04:06] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: did you get the nfs manager from bresink.de?
[04:06] <reiki> Agrajag, it's based on linux...
[04:06] <kevogod> OS X is FreeBSD plus a microkernel.
[04:06] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: and configure your mac?
[04:06] <Agrajag> what gives you an error, grub for the be bootloader?
[04:06] <djm62> reiki: I think he meant secure against /other people/, not against him
[04:06] <Agrajag> s/for/or
[04:06] <Joe41> Diffino - use in console: "dpkg -i DEBFILE"
[04:06] <kevogod> reiki, No, it is not.
[04:06] <sproingie> osx is not "mostly based on freebsd"
[04:06] <reiki> djm62, ahh
[04:06] <kevogod> reiki, You are misinformed.
[04:06] <fanskapet> Agrajag, doesn't grub allow booting extended partitions?
[04:07] <hablandocontigo> nalioth yes, I tried navigating the manager but no servers appear at all
[04:07] <Agrajag> hell if I know, I never use them
[04:07] <reiki> kevogod, that's quite possible that I'm misinformed :)
[04:07] <Joe41> Diffindo - use in console: "dpkg -i DEBFILE"
[04:07] <kevogod> sproingie, I never claimed it was. But when explaining, it is easier to associate with FreeBSD type unix.
[04:07] <Agrajag> reiki: os x is not based on linux.
[04:07] <sproingie> it uses freebsd underneath to do a lot of things, but it's "mostly based" on nextstep at many levels, and completely original in others
[04:07] <sproingie> kevogod: it's easier, but it's pretty much wrong
[04:08] <lundner> Diffindo, dpkg -i cedega_4.4-2.i386.\(osloskop.net\).deb
[04:08] <lundner>  ;-P
[04:08] <war-totem> do gdesklets work in fluxbox?
[04:08] <fanskapet> Agrajag, something that it doesn't find the device
[04:08] <don824chan> I'm wondering
[04:08] <Ainvar> so so I have a question, is there anything as nice a kgpg for gnome and also from a windows to linus standpoint is there a newsgroup douwnloader similar to GrabIt?
[04:08] <nalioth> osx is evolved from openbsd 4.3, i believe, and the kernel of OSX is called darwin
[04:08] <sproingie> a bsd kernel personality on top of mach is not "based on freebsd".  there's no ports, no netgraph
[04:08] <don824chan> can I get my PCMCIA wireless adapter to work on this OS?
[04:08] <nalioth> Ainvar: try seahorse for gnome (or just stick with kgpg, it'll work in gnome)
[04:09] <Diffindo> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:09] <Ainvar> thanks nalioth!
[04:09] <Diffindo> someone wanna explain that?
[04:09] <Syco54645> hi when i updated to breezy the ability to open terminal from right clicking on the desktop on gnome is gone.  i was wondering if anyone knew how to get that back.  i am fairly new to gnome
[04:09] <lundner> Diffindo, you have to close synaptic
[04:09] <reiki> nalioth: maybe that's what I was fishing for in my old brain... that it's EVOLVED from a bsd variant....
[04:09] <djm62> don824chan: google the card name and ubuntu to see
[04:09] <don824chan> djm62 thx
[04:09] <reiki> but... I'm no expert on OSX, that's for sure
[04:09] <Diffindo> I'm updating...
[04:09] <fossa> how do i configure grub?
[04:09] <kevogod> nalioth, Actually, OS X is basically OpenStep or NeXTStep as sproingie said.
[04:09] <sproingie> i might run osx sometime, when the switch to x86 is done
[04:10] <nalioth> kevogod: yes, based on an evolved bsd
[04:10] <Colossus> I think that when the switch to x86 is done, it'll only run on Mac x86s, still.
[04:10] <pizzaiolo> sproingie: maybe i can add items manually with smeg but since there's a lot of menu items in /usr/lib/menu anybody would LOVE use something like update-menus instead...
[04:10] <kevogod> It should actually be called OpenStep X
[04:10] <kevogod> oh wait
[04:10] <lundner> Diffindo, then after you have finished your update you can try it again... it is not possible to make to install two things at the same time
[04:10] <djm62> don824chan: the chances are it /can/ work, and there are good odds that it will work
[04:10] <kevogod> It is!
[04:10] <Colossus> I'd love to be able to run OS X instead of XP.
[04:10] <sproingie> apple just killed their mac sales for the whole rest of the year and next with that switch.  guess they have ipods to fall back on
[04:10] <judari_> hello all. I'm trying to get my sb16 (ct4170) to work to no avail. I've check some of the forums and wiki as well and I'm still having no luck..
[04:10] <kevogod> OS X = OpenStep X
[04:10] <kevogod> hmmm
[04:10] <Syco54645> fossa: where ever your boot partition is, go there and there is a text file menu.lst  edit that with a text editor.  i am sure ubuntu has a gui editor for grub, i just dont know it
[04:11] <nalioth> this mac talk can go to #ubuntu-offtopic where i'm waiting to discuss it all with you
[04:11] <djm62> fossa: grubconf
[04:12] <djm62> is the gui editor for grub
[04:12] <Syco54645> no takers on my gnome question?
[04:12] <lyndon> when i was update my ubuntu it shown broken package and need to install "Synaptic" or "apt-get" how can i do that ?
[04:12] <fossa> ok, got it
[04:12] <ram_> hi
[04:12] <ilpavox> i have a problem where my wireless connection constantly goes down.  it seems there are lots of bugs in the version of ipw2200 bundled with ubuntu.  aparently v1.0 works.  has anyone upgraded it?  can i just compile etc or do i have to upgrade the kernel? thanks.
[04:13] <ram_> how can i upgrade gnome 2.10 to 2.12
[04:13] <nickrud> Syco54645, its in the package nautilus-open-terminal
[04:13] <Diffindo> lunder
[04:13] <Diffindo> lundner: I got some error msgs
[04:13] <Diffindo> and it didn't work...
[04:13] <Diffindo> : /
[04:14] <judari_> any suggestions for trying to get my soundcard to work. I modprobe snd-sb16, I set the Multimedia System Selector to OSS and nothing. I can hear the mp3 somewhat if I turn it up all the way ..
[04:14] <Syco54645> nickrud: thanks
[04:14] <lundner> Diffindo, when you tried to install cedega?!
[04:14] <Diffindo> yeah
[04:14] <Diffindo> here...
[04:14] <Diffindo> um...
[04:14] <Diffindo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cedega:
[04:14] <Diffindo>  cedega depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.9); however:
[04:14] <Diffindo>   Version of libasound2 on system is 1.0.8-1.
[04:14] <Diffindo>  cedega depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:
[04:14] <Diffindo>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.
[04:15] <Diffindo> dpkg: error processing cedega (--install):
[04:15] <Diffindo>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:15] <Diffindo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:15] <Diffindo>  cedega
[04:15] <ram_> can any one help me
[04:15] <levander> ram_: just ask
[04:15] <Syco54645> ram_: depends on what you need
[04:15] <fossa> how do i update from hoary to breezy?
[04:15] <Diffindo> Y'know what...
[04:15] <nalioth> Diffindo: one more time pasting in here and you're gone
[04:15] <nalioth> Diffindo: use #flood or a pastebin
[04:16] <levander> fossa: if you don't know the answe rto that question, now's probably not a good time to upgrade
[04:16] <Diffindo> I was trying to paste something to lundner
[04:16] <Colossus> or http://rafb.net/paste
[04:16] <levander> fossa: last i heard breezy was still pretty unstable
[04:16] <nalioth> Diffindo: read the /topic   type /topic into your text entry box
[04:16] <ram_> ya i want to upgrade gnome 2.10 to 2.12
[04:16] <dhonn> how do i set up the x server
[04:16] <Diffindo> so get off my ass
[04:16] <Syco54645> levander: i am on breezy
[04:16] <fossa> nuts
[04:16] <djm62> ram_: if you wait a month, you can upgrade to breezy when it's released, and get 2.12 in a tested, easy-to-use state
[04:16] <dhonn> whats the command to set it up?
[04:16] <Syco54645> levander: and it is working fine for me
[04:16] <fossa> i just installed breezy on my work computer
[04:16] <nalioth> Diffindo: read the topic
[04:16] <levander> Syco54645: okay, maybe it's gotten better
[04:16] <nalioth> !tell Diffindo about conduct
[04:16] <Ainvar> breezy is a pretty stable for me
[04:16] <djm62> ram_: I recommend that, it's what I'm going to do
[04:17] <Ainvar> running on my dell 6000d with no problems
[04:17] <dhonn> what is the command to set up the xserver
[04:17] <ram_> ok
[04:17] <dhonn> i deleted my xorg.conf
[04:17] <dhonn> file
[04:17] <Joe41> uff bad idea ;)
[04:17] <levander> dhonn: dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common (I think)
[04:17] <Syco54645> levander: besides just because someone asks how to upgrade doesnt mean they are not ready... it just means that they dont understand/know how debian based distros do stuff
[04:17] <dhonn> its xorg though?
[04:17] <judari_> syco: I thought you couldn't use ALSA with old ISA soundcards, I thought you had to use OSS?
[04:17] <Agrajag> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <djm62> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <Agrajag> I win!!! maybe
[04:17] <regeya> whoo
[04:17] <Syco54645> judari_: you are using an isa card
[04:18] <Syco54645> i didnt see that
[04:18] <Syco54645> sorry
[04:18] <regeya> isa!
[04:18] <lundner> with which command does glxgears show the fps?
[04:18] <Syco54645> my router doesnt even have an isa slot
[04:18] <Syco54645> lol
[04:18] <ubuntujunkie> do it from the command line
[04:18] <Joe41> Ainvar i'm using a dell inspiron 510m which runs almost stable
[04:18] <levander> Syco54645: I thought breezy was in a more unstable state than yall are telling me.  If he doesn't know how to upgrade, or can't at least easily look it up, using Breezy in as unstable a state as it was a month ago is a really bad idea.
[04:18] <djm62> lundner: run it from an xterm...it outputs to...
[04:18] <Foodcoman> Well done nalioth!
[04:19] <Syco54645> levander: well i came from gentoo and before that i came from mdk and before that redhat... back when redhat was 5.2 so i am not used to something working and people being afraid if it is unstable
[04:19] <Syco54645> ;)
[04:19] <dabar> hi.
[04:19] <dhonn> it says xserver package is not installed!!!!
[04:20] <Ainvar> Joe41 pretty solid too eh?
[04:20] <levander> Syco54645: It's not a matter of being afraid, it's just a matter of how much time are you going to spend.
[04:20] <lundner> djm62, he doesn't output anything instead of the animation :-/
[04:20] <sproingie> you'd best know a thing or two about X config files if you switch to breezy
[04:20] <ndazza> sproingie: like the changed font paths? ;)
[04:20] <don824chan> im confused
[04:20] <djm62> lundner: how are you launching it?
[04:20] <Joe41> yeah pretty solid... every now and then kicker hangs up and stuff like that
[04:20] <levander> sproingie: They have a guide on what you need to know?
[04:20] <don824chan> What is my "current working directory?"
[04:20] <sproingie> ndazza: yep that was a killer.  also the int10 extension interferes fatally with fglrx
[04:21] <levander> sproingie: Or will by the time they realease breezy?
[04:21] <lundner> djm62, i type "glxgears" in the console
[04:21] <djm62> don824chan: if you type "pwd" that will tell you
[04:21] <sproingie> ndazza: things like that.  small changes, but the system's practically dead til they're made
[04:21] <ndazza> sproingie: lucky i never got fglrx working properly :)
[04:21] <don824chan> damn
[04:21] <don824chan> thanks
[04:21] <dabar> don824chan: it is the directory you are in, through a terminal shelll.
[04:21] <Ainvar> have not had a hangup as of yet, and the latest fglrx and restricted kernel modules made my ati x300 card do even better in breezy
[04:21] <fossa> i don't supose i can downgrade to horay
[04:21] <sproingie> ndazza: i just did about an hour ago
[04:21] <Syco54645> levander: i always thought people that used linux did so because they knew something about computers... but ubuntu's approach seems to be something different, like making linux easy for the masses, and that is nice
[04:21] <djm62> lundner: it should be outputting every 5 seconds with an average FPS
[04:22] <sproingie> glxgears in breezy does not print fps
[04:22] <lundner> djm62, in my case not ... hmm strange
[04:22] <levander> Syco54645: exactly, i'm productive with my computer, i don't just sit around configuring it all day
[04:22] <don824chan> akk
[04:22] <dabar> fossa: not in any easy simple, 1-2-3 way, no.
[04:22] <don824chan> k I found it
[04:22] <levander> Syco54645: easy to use is not just a feature for the masses
[04:22] <don824chan> I just don't know how to install the appropriate package
[04:22] <dabar> dhonn: and you are trying to do what?
[04:22] <lundner> sproingie, aha! do you know a way how to do it eather?
[04:22] <ndazza> Syco54645: many distros are aimed at ease of use these days - particularly specialist distros like SMEServer and Smoothwall - they make server tasks a no-brainer
[04:22] <don824chan> they told me just to say "make"
[04:22] <Syco54645> levander: i didnt sit around configging any of my boxes all day
[04:22] <dhonn> xorg wont start
[04:22] <don824chan> but my terminal doesn't seem to like that
[04:22] <Syco54645> ndazza: dont forget about ipcop ;)
[04:22] <sproingie> lundner: recompile glxgears.  it's a pretty trivial program
[04:22] <dabar> dhonn: You see, you would like help, right?
[04:22] <ndazza> Syco54645: meh same thing :)
[04:23] <Joe41> Ainvar i'm anoyed of struggeling with synce for my pda
[04:23] <levander> Syco54645: I can fix and find bugs in Ubuntu, and figure out how to get things to work that don't right off, but with Ubuntu, I'm very glad I don't have to.
[04:23] <dhonn> yeah
[04:23] <djm62> don824chan: what sort of error messages are you getting?
[04:23] <Syco54645> levander: i dunno i always thought linux wasnt too hard to use.
[04:23] <levander> Syco54645: at least not often
[04:23] <don824chan> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:23] <don824chan> Thats it
[04:23] <levander> Syco54645: depends on what you mean by hard to use.
[04:23] <dabar> dhonn: well, how can I know anything about how to help you, and I read dhonn: it says xserver package is not installed!!!! and dhonn: xorg wont start so far?
[04:23] <fossa> seriously, should i remove breezy and install hoary before i get more vested in it?
[04:23] <don824chan> i'm following the directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[04:23] <Joe41> welkll don you might have to run ./configure
[04:23] <dabar> Tell about your graphics card, about your system, and so on.
[04:24] <dabar> fossa: seriously, what is wrong with your breezy?
[04:24] <dhonn> xserver-xorg is already the newest version.
[04:24] <sproingie> glxgears is such a trivial program that it tests virtually nothing of interest
[04:24] <dhonn> i tried to install it
[04:24] <jknife> how many people are upgrading or installing somethin from the default servers?
[04:24] <dhonn> but its aready installed
[04:24] <djm62> don824chan: what errors are you getting?
[04:24] <fossa> nothing ; but it's my work com pand i can't afford for it to be unstable
[04:24] <dhonn>  i tried to reconfigure it but its not installed it says
[04:24] <dabar> dhonn: ok, sounds good, and what is not working?
[04:24] <don824chan> uh
[04:24] <dabar> dhonn: how did you type this?
[04:24] <djm62> don824chan: oh, damn, never mind
[04:24] <don824chan> yeah I thought I said
[04:24] <dhonn> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <dabar> fossa back up files, or something.
[04:24] <don824chan> so what do I do
[04:25] <dabar> dhonn: as sudo? have output on a pastebin?
[04:25] <dhonn> sudo
[04:25] <sproingie> you installed breezy on a machine you can't afford to have unstable?  oy.
[04:25] <Syco54645> levander: i think anything with a package system is easy to use. except for gentoo, and mdk and redhat.  rpms sucked.  i hear the new one is ok.  mdk once had so much of my libc messed up that i went to gentoo
[04:25] <Syco54645> gentoo then decided that portage would stagnate so i left and came here
[04:26] <dhonn> im on the phone helping someone get there xorg back up
[04:26] <djm62> don824chan: can you type "pwd" and tell me what directory you're in?
[04:26] <lundner> sproingie, i guess you are right ..it shows something about 15000 in windowed mode  :-P
[04:26] <sproingie> package system is nothing without good repository discipline
[04:26] <don824chan> /home/eric
[04:26] <sproingie> a lot of the rpm systems lack that discipline, so people have to mix repos
[04:26] <don824chan> which is where the driver is
[04:26] <dabar> dhonn: back up?
[04:26] <ubuntujunkie> does anyone know how to edit the App menu's in Hoary?
[04:27] <fossa> do i need a network connection to install hoary?
[04:27] <Syco54645> sproingie: is there a bleeding edge repos for ubuntu?
[04:27] <nalioth> !tell ubuntujunkie about smeg
[04:27] <dhonn> no
[04:27] <djm62> don824chan: you need to type cd rt25[TAB]
[04:27] <sproingie> Syco54645: if you're crafty, you can grab individual ports from the bleeding edge distro
[04:27] <dabar> dhonn: sorry, I can not sit here trying to pull this out of you like teeth.
[04:27] <djm62> don824chan: and then cd Module
[04:27] <don824chan> bash: cd: rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz: Not a directory
[04:28] <dhonn> why does upgrading to the breezy so hard
[04:28] <dhonn> xorg fails every time
[04:28] <sproingie> Syco54645: ubuntu doesn't have a perpetually bleeding edge branch like debian experimental though
[04:28] <Ainvar> does beepplayer not music from a network share that you have browsed to through gnome?
[04:28] <don824chan> but its there
[04:28] <Syco54645> sproingie: they are not bleeding enough.
[04:28] <dabar> you likely have some weird repo enabled. dhonn.
[04:28] <jknife> dhonn, what is the Xorg output?
[04:28] <sproingie> Syco54645: welcome to debian
[04:28] <jknife> /var/log/xorg.0.log(i think)
[04:29] <dhonn> this isnt the first time this happens to all my systems
[04:29] <djm62> don824chan: if you type "ls" can you see the rt2500-<something> directory?
[04:29] <Syco54645> sproingie: thanks... ill be here till my 80 gig thinks its a 90 gig when the partition table gets corrupt, then ill move on.  maybe to slackware and i will become a 1337 hax0r
[04:29] <don824chan> Desktop  rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz
[04:29] <Syco54645> ;)
[04:29] <sproingie> Syco54645: if you want the bleeding edge, it really isn't hard to compile from source.  if you want that for every single app, then you want gentoo
[04:29] <don824chan> its saying that its not a directory
[04:29] <don824chan> which is true i guess
[04:30] <djm62> don824chan: you haven't unpacked that file yet... you need to type "tar -xzvf rt2500*"
[04:30] <Syco54645> sproingie: well it doesnt have to be that bleeding... but i would like to see the new mozilla firefox in breezy instead of one from a few versions back
[04:30] <don824chan> i said that lready
[04:30] <don824chan> but w/e
[04:30] <Syco54645> and gentoo takes way too long to update
[04:30] <ubuntujunkie> Note KDE takes 3 days to compile (average) under gentoo
[04:30] <Syco54645> ubuntujunkie: what system are you on???
[04:30] <djm62> don824chan: what happens when you type that? any output at all?
[04:30] <Syco54645> it went in a day on my 2ghz
[04:30] <sproingie> Syco54645: ye gads, tell me about it.  that's what backports is for, but firefox never seems to make it into there
[04:30] <Syco54645> with the new xorg
[04:30] <don824chan> djm62 yes it gives an error
[04:31] <djm62> don824chan: ah! what error?
[04:31] <Syco54645> sproingie: what exactly is back ports?
[04:31] <ubuntujunkie> Syco53645: 900 Celeron
[04:31] <Vespoli> w0000000t :D
[04:31] <don824chan> i don't want to flood
[04:31] <lundner> does somebody know how i get the irc-desklet work under gdesklets?!?
[04:31] <Vespoli> ubunto works perfectly :D
[04:31] <Vespoli> however --- I can't run anything as root!!!!!
[04:31] <Vespoli> :'(
[04:31] <dabar> note the name, Vespoli, ubuntu.
[04:31] <Syco54645> ubuntujunkie: well that is why then... i dont think it is fair to say that is an average when you cant even buy a machine that is under 1 ghz any more
[04:31] <djm62> don824chan: did that file download properly?
[04:31] <Vespoli> please help!
[04:31] <cafuego_> duh, stupid gnomemeeting
[04:31] <sproingie> Syco54645: ports newer versions of apps to older distributions like hoary or warty
[04:31] <don824chan> I believe so
[04:32] <djm62> don824chan: I'll go to #flood, where you can paste it
[04:32] <lundner> Vespoli, you maybe have to type in sudo passwd and set a password for your root-account
[04:32] <Syco54645> sproingie: ah ok.  isnt it also possible to make your own repos?
[04:32] <Vespoli> lundner, no
[04:32] <sproingie> Syco54645: I don't think firefox is in there tho.  in fact i don't think official backports will upgrade existing packages, only offer new ones
[04:32] <Vespoli> ty dabar :D
[04:32] <lundner> Vespoli, what than?!
[04:32] <sproingie> Syco54645: there's always third party repos ... you takes your chances with those tho
[04:33] <cafuego_> the iSight works fine with coriander, but gm is retarded
[04:33] <Syco54645> sproingie: i can compile by hand.  i used to for year, i am just getting lazy what with school and crap
[04:33] <ghost__> how do i start pcmcia it keeps on telling me that pcmcia is not pressent
[04:33] <djm62> don824chan: ah... you'd need to either type "tar -xzvf" followed by the full filename, or type the first few characters and then press [tab]
[04:33] <sproingie> Syco54645: yah, i've gotten pretty lazy too
[04:33] <don824chan> ahah
[04:34] <Syco54645> sproingie: that is why i went back to a package based rather than a source based distro
[04:34] <don824chan> ok...
[04:34] <don824chan> now what
[04:34] <ubuntujunkie> Syco: ditto
[04:34] <djm62> then you can cd to the directory that has been created
[04:34] <sproingie> Syco54645: debian is definitely not going to give you bleeding edge for the most part
[04:34] <don824chan> yeah
[04:35] <don824chan> then it tells me to make
[04:35] <djm62> don824chan: and cd Module
[04:35] <don824chan> but then it just give me the same error
[04:35] <don824chan> ah
[04:35] <don824chan> i really should buy one of those Linux for Dummies books
[04:35] <djm62> don824chan: and when pwd shows you in the Module subdirectory, you should be good to go
[04:35] <Syco54645> sproingie: well that is fine, there is always the ./configure && make && make install
[04:36] <djm62> don824chan: it's a steep learning curve at the beginning...after a while you start to say "obviously!" and annoy newbies
[04:36] <ugo> @don824chan to slap ur head with right?
[04:36] <ghost__> ??
[04:36] <ugo> lol :-D
[04:36] <ubuntujunkie> sproingie: debian unstable is pretty bleeding edge
[04:36] <sproingie> Syco54645: you could also install a shadow root or even chroot a whole different distro to host bleeding edge stuff on the same machine
[04:36] <don824chan> k now it says I'm done but...
[04:37] <Syco54645> sproingie: too much effort
[04:37] <don824chan> my card doesn't look like its doing anythign
[04:37] <sproingie> ubuntujunkie: not if you program in lisp or scheme.  sbcl is years old
[04:37] <Vespoli> -_-
[04:37] <ghost__> am i missing a kernel model
[04:37] <ghost__> ??
[04:37] <don824chan> nvm
[04:37] <don824chan> i think i get it
[04:37] <Syco54645> oh well time to restart x
[04:37] <JxpX> ??
[04:37] <Syco54645> see if this works
[04:38] <sproingie> Syco54645: i have a redhat box at work that i put openpkg on, created a whole shadow filesystem.  wasn't that hard to do
[04:38] <djm62> don824chan: the instructions look pretty good (unfortunately I don't have the card or I'd be checking them myself)
[04:38] <don824chan> well this is a PCMCIA card
[04:38] <don824chan> i don't know if thats going to be any different
[04:39] <don824chan> but I don't see it in my network settings like it says I should
[04:39] <sproingie> i wish conference mode in an irc client showed joins and quits of people you recently talked to
[04:39] <co_Racinx> hello
[04:39] <don824chan> Do I need RaConfig?
[04:39] <solidgroove> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[04:39] <solidgroove>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[04:39] <solidgroove>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[04:39] <djm62> don824chan: do you need WPA? or just WEP/unencrypted?
[04:39] <solidgroove> i tried using hdparm
[04:39] <don824chan> no clue
[04:39] <djm62> don824chan: as in, do you use a network that requires WPA?
[04:40] <solidgroove> for /dev/cdrom
[04:40] <don824chan> but I can't get my card to work regardless
[04:40] <don824chan> no
[04:40] <don824chan> i don't requrie WPA
[04:40] <don824chan> and if I could spell
[04:40] <djm62> don824chan: what happened when you did "sudo insmod rt2500.ko"?
[04:40] <don824chan> i didn't
[04:40] <don824chan> :O
[04:41] <dabar> solidgroove: you need to use it for, for example, /dev/hdc
[04:41] <djm62> don824chan: seriously, slow down a bit and follow the instructions...treat it like Ikea
[04:41] <don824chan> wait
[04:41] <don824chan> yes i did
[04:41] <don824chan> ><
[04:41] <don824chan> it asked for my password
[04:41] <don824chan> then nothinghappened
[04:42] <don824chan> maybe I typed the password wrong
[04:42] <djm62> don824chan: nothing is good, in this context.  if something had gone wrong it would have said something
[04:42] <don824chan> ok
[04:43] <Angel-SL> do you get your command prompt back?
[04:43] <sproingie> my fglrx is a bit of mysterious action at a distance ... i couldn't find it anywhere, but it just mysteriously appeared for me when i switched my xorg.conf to use it
[04:43] <sproingie> now it appears in /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-amd64-k8/volatile/fglrx.ko
[04:44] <sproingie> who knows how it gets there ...
[04:44] <don824chan> djm62: Either way, my network card doesn't appear to be working
[04:44] <ghost__> is it pcmcia
[04:44] <don824chan> ohj wait
[04:44] <ghost__> cause i cant iven load the pcmcia init scrip
[04:45] <don824chan> no my network card doesn't appear in my Network Settings, and it says in the Wiki that it should
[04:45] <sproingie> just curious, there any third party efforts for xerox printer drivers?
[04:46] <Ice9> how can I change the permission of a folder? It currently belongs to root and I'd like to make my user be the owner
[04:46] <sproingie> chown user folder
[04:46] <lucasd> i'm with no sound on my ubuntu linux.. i set the volume, and nothing.. can somebody help me?
[04:46] <sproingie> 'course that just does the folder
[04:46] <sproingie> you probably want chown -R user folder
[04:47] <djm62> don824chan: if you type "iwconfig" at the terminal, do you get no wireless extensions on anything?
[04:47] <don824chan> none
[04:48] <heartEye> I want to get a general idea of where the bulk of the data on my hard drive is.  what program could I use?
[04:48] <robotgeek> heartEye: ypu can try filelight, very nice
[04:49] <heartEye> grazie rob
[04:50] <heartEye> grazie robotgeek
[04:50] <robotgeek> heartEye: no probs
[04:50] <djm62> don824chan: can you install the driver fully, according to the "Installing" section of the page? (underneath And What If I Don't Need RaConfig)
[04:50] <djm62> don824chan: then do "sudo rmmod rt2500" and "sudo insmod rt2500"
[04:51] <x[trick] x> just want to ask.. if there's a way i can use the same partition on my hdd when i was still using windows
[04:51] <heartEye> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/filelight/filelight_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[04:51] <don824chan> ill try
[04:51] <h08817> i have having a problem with my internet connection
[04:51] <h08817> i can't connect
[04:51] <h08817> when i start up ubuntu it just hangs on loadndisdriver
[04:51] <h08817> b/c my connection is gone i guess or the usb is fried
[04:51] <sportman> so how do i determine my kernel?
[04:52] <djm62> don824chan: actually, instead of "sudo insmod rt2500" do "sudo modprobe rt2500"
[04:52] <luckyaba> is it worth it to invest in a dual core processor yet?
[04:52] <april> hi
[04:52] <Nooblar> sportman, try uname -r
[04:52] <x[trick] x> just want to ask.. if there's a way i can use the same partition on my hdd when i was still using windows
[04:52] <april> hi
[04:52] <april> ljhj
[04:52] <april> kh
[04:52] <dabar> hi already
[04:52] <luckyaba> april hi
[04:52] <april> helo
[04:52] <dabar> we saw your first hi.
[04:52] <april> yah
[04:53] <april> tnx for reply
[04:53] <april> from where r u?
[04:53] <djm62> x[trick] x: no need to repeat.  do you want do get rid of windows and use the space, or edit files on your windows partition?
[04:53] <djm62> :)
[04:53] <nalioth> april: you may join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask all of us where we are from. #ubuntu is a help channel
[04:53] <x[trick] x> i want to getrid of the windows
[04:53] <april> ok
[04:54] <djm62> x[trick] x: do you have ubuntu installed already?
[04:54] <x[trick] x> i have a 80gig hdd partitioned into 2 drives
[04:54] <dabar> h08817: and, what, I should guess what type of network you use, what type of network card you have, and so on?
[04:54] <durt> what's the command i can use to make my file managers open a document in abiword?
[04:54] <x[trick] x> i have lots of mp3 on my secondary drive and i want to save it
[04:54] <h08817> dabar, i have a linksys network and i use a netgear usb
[04:54] <dabar> durt, its in the properties when you right click, in the open with tab.
[04:54] <djm62> x[trick] x: yes you can do that
[04:54] <dabar> linksys network meaning a router, and a netgear usb wireless network card?
[04:54] <x[trick] x> my master drive is 5gig and from there i plan to install the ubuntu
[04:55] <sportman> um lets see
[04:55] <x[trick] x> im just starting to install ubuntu on my pc
[04:55] <sportman> im installing vmware
[04:55] <h08817> dabar, yes
[04:55] <don824chan> k djm62 i did everything you said
[04:55] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: 5 gigs is more than enough to install ubuntu on.
[04:55] <sportman> it is asking me What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:55] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: hoary or breezy?
[04:55] <djm62> don824chan: and do you get anything when you type "iwconfig" now?
[04:55] <sportman> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[04:55] <h08817> dabar, not sure why it doesn't work i haven't used my comp in 2 weeks
[04:55] <durt> dabar, well i cant do that in xsmbrowser, so i was wondering what the arguments to "abiword" should be
[04:55] <dabar> h08817: I cant help. I dont use that.
[04:55] <don824chan> still no
[04:55] <sportman> what do i do?
[04:55] <sportman> ...
[04:55] <sportman> i just got gcc 3.4
[04:55] <h08817> dabar, of course no one does
[04:55] <djm62> !rt2500
[04:56] <ubotu> djm62: Are you smoking crack?
[04:56] <sportman> and instaleed system headersr
[04:56] <djm62> damn, ubotu can smell it
[04:56] <Ainvar> I forgot to backup my esd.conf, is there anyway to get the default back without having to reinstall?
[04:56] <x[trick] x> so what will i do by the time i go to the partition options?
[04:56] <don824chan> I have lo eth0 and sit0
[04:56] <x[trick] x> what do youi mean sir?? im just new in linux :(<BlueEagle> x[trick] x: hoary or breezy?
[04:56] <sportman> hmm
[04:56] <dabar> durt: what arguments?
[04:56] <sportman> n e one want to help me out?
[04:56] <sportman> with installing vmware
[04:56] <djm62> don824chan: and your card is plugged in? nothing obvious wrong?
[04:57] <nalioth> djm62: is this what you are after? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[04:57] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: Ubuntu has got names for their versions. 5.04 is hoary hedgehog while 5.10 is breezy badger
[04:57] <sportman> its asking me for the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel
[04:57] <don824chan> yeah its plugged in
[04:57] <x[trick] x> im using 5.10
[04:57] <sportman> any help would be greatly appreciated
[04:57] <Nooblar> sportman, the best is to check out VMWare's forums...you'll get help from vmware tech guys there
[04:57] <digitize> you know, /join #amarok
[04:57] <digitize> err
[04:57] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: That would be breezy.
[04:57] <digitize> sorry
[04:57] <durt> dabar, if i set something to open with the "abiword" command, it doesnt open it
[04:57] <sportman> meh, but this is a ubuntu specific problem
[04:57] <dabar> x[trick] x: ya, you can get the files off the "windows" formatted drive with mp3s. /msg ubotu ntfs
[04:57] <sportman> lol
[04:57] <djm62> nalioth: that's what he was using, I'm trying to see if there are any gotchas
[04:57] <sportman> but w.e.
[04:57] <sportman> ;)
[04:58] <nalioth> djm62: lead on, mcduff
[04:58] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: Be aware that if you install with norwegian locale you _might_ run into some config trouble with X. Either that or it was me who messed up when transferring my dualscreen config.
[04:58] <djm62> don824chan: what card do you actually have?
[04:58] <dabar> durt, go into a terminal, and try abi<tab><
[04:58] <Nooblar> sportman, what message u getting when u try to compile it?
[04:59] <don824chan> uh
[04:59] <april> helo
[04:59] <don824chan> Belkin 54G
[04:59] <dabar> I dont know what you do, and doesnt open it is ambiguous, what, it opens abiword but no file?
[04:59] <sportman> i cant get any further
[04:59] <don824chan> F5D7010
[04:59] <x[trick] x> my drive is partitioned in fat32 will that be ok with linux?
[04:59] <Ainvar> so is there a way for me to redo my esd.conf file back to default without reinstall breezy?
[04:59] <sportman> it just asks me that one question
[04:59] <sportman> then w.e.
[04:59] <sportman> h.o.
[05:00] <moparfan90> hello everyone
[05:00] <sportman> how bout someone help me install java
[05:00] <dabar> x[trick] x: yes, even better, it can be written to by linux.
[05:00] <april> hloo
[05:00] <cef> so is xorg 6.8.2-67 any good?
[05:00] <sportman> ubotu tell sportman about java
[05:00] <april> too all of u
[05:00] <dabar> april: do you have a question?
[05:00] <april> nope
[05:00] <april> y?
[05:00] <april> n u?
[05:00] <dabar> we said hi already.
[05:00] <dabar> What would you like?
[05:00] <x[trick] x> i have a hard time installing it ;(
[05:00] <kasper_> has anyone successfully installed java onto mozilla??
[05:00] <x[trick] x> huhuu
[05:00] <april> nothing
[05:00] <dabar> ok, good.
[05:00] <h08817> !java
[05:00] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:01] <kasper_> TY MUCH!!
[05:01] <moparfan90> !java
[05:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:02] <april> hi
[05:02] <cef> is java 1.5 available for breezy at all? that only says 1.4
[05:02] <djm62> don824chan: it looks like people are using ndiswrapper to get that card working
[05:02] <Ainvar> cef just make your own java deb package
[05:02] <Ainvar> I have the steps if you want it
[05:02] <ADRnLn> Hi, I am wondering if anyone has been able to get the trackpad working on breezy with a G4 PowerBook?
[05:03] <Ainvar> found them on the forums yesterday
[05:03] <nalioth> april: this is not a chat channel. this is a help channel.
[05:03] <cef> Ainvar: cool... I unfortunately need 1.5 for work
[05:03] <don824chan> djm62: What does that mean for me
[05:03] <oogabooga> i have a 52x cd reader .... how can i get it to write to the hard disk at a rate faster than 3.8x? i have dma enabled.  it is drive /dev/hdd
[05:04] <benz190ryda> hello folks
[05:04] <durt> dabar: thanks, it works now, the command was "abiword $FILE"
[05:04] <Ainvar> cef you have msg
[05:04] <dabar> durt: makes sense. good work.
[05:04] <Diffindo> hello?
[05:04] <Diffindo> I have cedega installed now... Is there anything esle I need to do?
[05:05] <mik3> hi, anyone care to attempt to help me solve this problem when I try to start NVU: Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.
[05:05] <dabar> Diffindo: ya, go get me a sub at subway. jj, You need to do what you want to do.
[05:05] <mik3> wake up cletus
[05:06] <nalioth> mik3: be civil, please
[05:06] <mik3> =/
[05:06] <theblue_> Hi all.
[05:06] <djm62> don824chan: it means that for some reason the rt2500 driver isn't happy on your card (it's still under development), but you can use ndiswrapper to make it work.  it's a different driver
[05:06] <dabar> hi back.
[05:06] <don824chan> ohk...
[05:06] <mik3> nalioth want to help?
[05:06] <Ainvar> can anyone assist me in this quest to fix my sound that I messed up by not backing up my esd.conf file? I just need a way to either recreate with default values or a copy of one from breezy. Is this at all possible?
[05:06] <dabar> mik3: do you want to help?
[05:06] <oogabooga> i have a 52x cd reader .... how can i get it to write to the hard disk at a rate faster than 3.8x? i have dma enabled.  it is drive /dev/hdd
[05:07] <nalioth> mik3: do you have all the mozilla things installed?
[05:07] <mik3> dabar: i help in here very often, thanks
[05:07] <Diffindo> dabar: So, If I stick my Morrowind CD in, it will work?
[05:07] <mik3> nalioth: i installed what i thought was mozilla suite, i downloaded some installation script from mozilla.com, it seemed like it installed everything
[05:07] <djm62> don824chan: unfortunately, it's 4am here in the UK, and I need to sleep.  if you google belkin ubuntu ndiswrapper 54g you should get some useful pages
[05:07] <nalioth> mik3: ewww, no.
[05:07] <ubuntujunkie> oogabooga: have you looked at hdparm?
[05:07] <mik3> crap
[05:07] <dabar> Diffindo: I dont know.
[05:08] <nalioth> mik3: you need to use synaptic/aptitude/apt
[05:08] <dabar> mik3: then tell us more, did this ever work, what did you change for it not to work...
[05:08] <don824chan> thanks
[05:08] <djm62> and stay in here for help, but probably not from me...
[05:08] <don824chan> i think I'm gonna get sleep too
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> I'm having a slight problem
[05:08] <oogabooga> ubuntujunkie, yes
[05:08] <mik3>  Ignoring ALL messages from dabar!*@*
[05:08] <mik3> anyways
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> I have a somewhat old version of all the packages
[05:08] <MarcN> breezy's Xorg server pretty sick lately?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg dies at the very end.  No X for me tonight...
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> so I go in synaptic
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> and click mark upgrades
[05:08] <mik3> nalioth it worked fine before i did an upgrade a few weeks ago
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> and it marks them all fine
[05:09] <Toba|BSD> but the apply button is grayed out
[05:09] <Toba|BSD> why is that
[05:09] <nalioth> mik3: in synaptic are all the mozilla things installed?
[05:09] <mik3> will comply, stand by
[05:09] <concept10> has anyone seen the Yahoo commercials using the 8-bit like characters?
[05:09] <digitize> nalioth: i imagine there is a package for the whole suite
[05:09] <digitize> just check the description
[05:09] <Toba|BSD> it seems that my package information was NOT updated
[05:09] <BlueEagle> concept10: "8-bit like" as in utf8?
[05:09] <durt> toba|bsd: i dont know - use "sudo apt-get upgrade" then
[05:09] <sportman> wtf
[05:09] <sportman> i cant figure this out
[05:10] <concept10> BlueEagle: 8-bit like Commodore 64
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> w00t
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> apt-get upgrade...
[05:10] <nalioth> mik3: see what digitize said above and check your installation
[05:10] <BlueEagle> sportman: You need to press the keys in different other.
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> will a root shell do?
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> or does it have to be sudo
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> isn't it apt-get update?
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> apt-get does have to be sudo
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> aha!
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> w00t
[05:10] <BlueEagle> flyingpenguin: sudo apt-get update, but yes.
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> that would explain why jack shit happened
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> anywho... I have to go now
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> at a lanparty ;)
[05:10] <durt> its upgrade fellas
[05:10] <sportman> and jpackage
[05:11] <mik3> nalioth: mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, some dev stuff is installed. for some reason the script didn't install composer, i feel gyped!
[05:11] <BlueEagle> durt: That depends on what you want to do, doesn't it?
[05:11] <mik3> because now i'm no longer on broadband =/
[05:11] <nalioth> mik3: that is what you are missing
[05:11] <mik3> well crap
[05:11] <sportman> how do i install jre
[05:11] <mik3> what's the apt-get name to install it
[05:11] <sportman> i have the .bin file
[05:11] <durt> blueeagle: and he wanted to mark all upgrades in synaptic
[05:11] <BlueEagle> durt: Ahh. Didn't get that. :)
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> huh
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> I did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> both with sudo
[05:12] <durt> sportman: bet it from backports of extras or whatever that repo is
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> and nothing has been updated
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> what is wrong
[05:12] <mik3> naltioth: composer isn't even coming up in the search i do on synaptec or apt-cache
[05:12] <sportman> wtf?
[05:12] <sportman> lo
[05:12] <sportman> l
[05:12] <sportman> brb
[05:12] <mik3> repository issue perhaps?
[05:12] <flyingpenguin> anyone here know abought imwheel?
[05:12] <dabar> Toba|BSD: you tell us. What is in your repositories list in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> what conf are my repos in
[05:12] <nalioth> mik3: you should be able to install mozilla (and it should install everything)
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> I'll look there yes
[05:13] <durt> toba|bsd, does it say the you have no updates needed?
[05:13] <BlueEagle> toba|bsd: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <Toba|BSD> I do need updates
[05:13] <Toba|BSD> but they aren't happening
[05:13] <Toba|BSD> I'll get back to you with my list
[05:13] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: imwheel hasn't been needed for a long time. :)
[05:13] <mik3> nalioth: mozilla is installed but maybe composer isn't listed as a stand alone program , and when i type mozilla at console it starts firefox
[05:13] <flyingpenguin> kriptic13: then how do you think I should get my microsoft mouse to work?
[05:14] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: Is it just your mouse wheel that isn't working? Or are there other buttons involved?
[05:14] <Toba|BSD> it looks like only archinve.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is not commented out
[05:14] <flyingpenguin> kriptic13: side to side scrooling/back and foword buttons
[05:14] <Toba|BSD> *archive
[05:14] <Toba|BSD> should I uncomment the other repos?
[05:15] <dabar> Toba|BSD: you should paste your sources.list file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl .
[05:15] <mik3> nalioth maybe i should kick the computer
[05:15] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: the secret lies in setting up the mouse inputdevice section of xorg.conf.
[05:15] <Toba|BSD> I'm doing that
[05:15] <flyingpenguin> kriptic13: hold on let me start irc in my gui
[05:15] <durt> anybody have mozplugger working with firefox 1.5?
[05:16] <nalioth> mik3: wont help, and may hurt
[05:16] <flyingpenguin> ok... its starting
[05:16] <Toba|BSD> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2237
[05:16] <durt> i moved all the .so files, but mozplugger still doesnt work
[05:16] <Flying-Penguin> ok...
[05:16] <mik3> nalioth what do you suggest?
[05:16] <dabar> Toba|BSD: in fact, the # in front of a line means its commented out, and is not used.
[05:16] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: ok...
[05:16] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: I don't have the same mouse that you do, obviously.... so it will probably be just a bit different for you....
[05:16] <nalioth> mik3: install composer
[05:17] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: do you have side scrooling?
[05:17] <Toba|BSD> dabar, I know that
[05:17] <Toba|BSD> read the line I said about commenting out again
[05:17] <mik3> HEH i just did apt-get install mozilla and it's reinstalling the browser
[05:17] <mik3> and a bunch of other crap
[05:17] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: no, but I do have a 12-button multimedia mouse.  :)
[05:17] <dabar> Toba|BSD: youre right.
[05:17] <Toba|BSD> thank you
[05:17] <nalioth> mik3: that "other crap" is the crap you need
[05:17] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: 12-button?
[05:17] <Toba|BSD> I'll read that tutorial somebody told the bot to give me, it will help right?
[05:18] <dabar> Toba|BSD: I dont know which tutorial the bot gave you. I think that you just have the regular repos enabled, and to receive updates, you need to have the security repos enabled.
[05:18] <mik3> nalioth: are you running breezy or still on hoary?
[05:18] <nalioth> mik3: both. i have hoary on this box
[05:18] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: hold on a sec... need to remember what I did.... :)
[05:18] <nalioths_dog> mik3, and breezy on this one
[05:19] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: I sent you my config
[05:19] <Toba|BSD> ok thanks dabar
[05:19] <mik3> breezy stable for ya?
[05:20] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: ok... my side buttons work
[05:20] <TraceGreen> Hello, does anyone use freenx? i want to control a remote computer with freenx, my computer is windows, remote is debian linux, Can these 2 computers use the same session?
[05:20] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: but they don't go back/foword
[05:20] <hablandocontigo> hello, I've been trying to share files between my ubuntu computer and Tiger computer between a Linksys all day. any troubleshooting tips?
[05:20] <dabar> wel;come
[05:21] <nalioths_dog> mik3, it's a ruff ride
[05:21] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: if all else fails, use sftp
[05:21] <mik3> yah so i've been hearing
[05:22] <dabar> hablandocontigo: yes. /msg ubotu ask
[05:22] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: you there?
[05:22] <mik3> hablandocontigo : what kind of network setup
[05:22] <concept10> TraceGreen: have you tried to use a Remote Desktop Client?
[05:22] <mik3> ip's both in the same subnet class etc? like you don't have one computer using <IP_ADDRESS> and another on <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:22] <TraceGreen> concept10, what do you mean of Remote Desktop Client?
[05:23] <TraceGreen> i tried freenx, but it seems 2 computers cann't use the same session.
[05:24] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: I've been PM'ing you back.  :)
[05:25] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: let me know if I need to repeat.
[05:25] <nalioth> kriptic13: you need to register and identify with nickserv to send priv msgs
[05:25] <kriptic13> bugger all.  :)
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: I don't see any of the msgs...
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: join #flying-penguin
[05:26] <hablandocontigo> mik3 linksys router wired
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> JxpX: pwnt
[05:27] <Diffindo> Question: How can I boot directly into a terminal, as apposed to starting X?
[05:27] <Cicakman> hello
[05:27] <crimsun> Diffindo: search the wiki for disabling gdm
[05:27] <waltz> Question: Has the autogreeter crash been fixed in 5.10? :|
[05:27] <Cicakman> my ubuntu is behaving very weirdly.. the sound output comes from the headphone port only, and not the proper soundcard port
[05:28] <ghostdog> how do i uncompress a rar file
[05:28] <Cicakman> can anyone help me with this?
[05:28] <crimsun> Cicakman: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:28] <Cicakman> 0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Sound Blaster Audigy2
[05:28] <Cicakman>                      Sound Blaster Audigy2 (rev.4) at 0xc8c0, irq 18
[05:28] <durt> ghostdog, you need unrar
[05:28] <crimsun> Cicakman: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:28] <cef> waltz: which autogreeter crash?
[05:28] <nalioth> ghostdog: install unrar-nonfree
[05:29] <Will^Draven> when trying to install software updates i get this error:
[05:29] <Will^Draven> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:29] <Will^Draven> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:29] <crimsun> Will^Draven: how are you trying to install software?
[05:29] <nalioth> Will^Draven: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin
[05:29] <Cicakman> Crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2238
[05:29] <ghostdog> where is that unrar-nonfree located ?
[05:30] <crimsun> ghostdog: in multiverse
[05:30] <Will^Draven> for the software updates app thingy that popped up and said updates were available
[05:30] <apokryphos> Will^Draven: make sure you don't have other instances of apt/synaptic etc open
[05:30] <cef> Diffindo: you either need to disable gdm, or you can use recovery mode (automatically gives you root - use only for recovery)
[05:30] <cvt|ubuntu> i don't have the hoary extras feature in my repositories
[05:30] <scopecreep> is it ok to use the hoary-backports repository with a breezy preview install?
[05:30] <nalioth> !info unrar-nonfree
[05:30] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[05:30] <apokryphos> scopecreep: could be a little shaky
[05:31] <crimsun> Cicakman: are you using the analog speaker out or the optical SPDIF connection?
[05:31] <Diffindo> cef
[05:31] <nalioth> scopecreep: there are no breezy backports
[05:31] <Diffindo> How would I boot into recovery mode?
[05:31] <ghostdog> wheres multiverse ?
[05:31] <Cicakman> crimsun: not sure what you meant by that... but it's just a normal cable to the speaker
[05:31] <nalioth> scopecreep: the pkgs in hoary-backports are the same in breezy
[05:31] <nalioth> !tell ghostdog about sources
[05:31] <scopecreep> ok thats what i meant to ask i guess
[05:31] <Diffindo> !recovery mode
[05:31] <ubotu> Diffindo: I give up, what is it?
[05:31] <Diffindo> !recoverymode
[05:31] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Diffindo
[05:31] <crimsun> Cicakman: not into a stereo receiver, correct?
[05:31] <scopecreep> thanks for the info
[05:32] <Cicakman> crimsun: correct
[05:32] <nalioth> Diffindo: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for disable gdm
[05:32] <cef> Diffindo: when you boot, it gives you options of what kernels to boot.. select the top one with the words "(recovery mode)" after it
[05:32] <nalioth> cef: dont advise that please. it isnt safe to run as root
[05:32] <crimsun> Cicakman: in a Terminal, amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[05:33] <cef> nalioth: I did specify that earlier it's specifically to fix stuff only
[05:33] <crimsun> Cicakman: you probably want to adjust the 'Surround' element using alsamixer or Volume Control, too
[05:33] <nalioth> cef: some people dont know waht "fixing stuff" means in a *nix box
[05:33] <Diffindo> I'll be back
[05:33] <cef> nalioth: and if X kills your machine, given the default config, you basically need to use it
[05:33] <DMJC> ok
[05:34] <DMJC> something has totally died on it's ass in gnome
[05:34] <nalioth> cef: you have to think of the lowest common denominator when you give advice. not everyone is as knowledgable as you are
[05:34] <DMJC> what I did was put in a new hard drive
[05:34] <DMJC> and move the home folder to it
[05:34] <DMJC> all the permissions got converted to root
[05:34] <DMJC> so I did a chown user:users *
[05:34] <Cicakman> crimsun: you are beautiful
[05:34] <DMJC> on the home folder
[05:34] <DMJC> any ideas?
[05:34] <sportman> and bittornado gui
[05:35] <sportman> but it doesnt show up
[05:35] <sportman> on the applications list
[05:35] <sportman> n e ideas?
[05:35] <Cicakman> crimsun: what does IEC958 mean?
[05:35] <nalioth> sportman: open a terminal and run btdownloadgui.py
[05:35] <crimsun> Cicakman: that's the optical SPDIF connection
[05:35] <Cicakman> ic,,,,
[05:35] <nalioth> !tell sportman about smeg
[05:35] <durt> sportman: you can add it with smeg if your in gnome
[05:36] <Cicakman> crimsun: thx a lot!
[05:36] <crimsun> Cicakman: np
[05:38] <sportman> damn i hate this
[05:38] <sportman> its being gay
[05:38] <crimsun> omp: live cd
[05:38] <sportman> says i have 0.9 installed
[05:38] <sportman> of some lib
[05:38] <sportman> and i need 0.1
[05:38] <omp> crimsun: okay =]
[05:38] <nalioth> sportman: what program is complaining?
[05:39] <durt> why wont java work in firefox 1.5? and mozplugger too
[05:39] <omp> maybe if i like it enough i might consider switching to breezy as my main OS :)
[05:39] <ADRnLn> Room: Anyone here using breezy on a newer PowerBook?... please notify me...
[05:39] <crimsun> durt: check if the plug interface has changed
[05:40] <Versed> I have the latest ubuntu on a g4 450
[05:40] <nalioth> ADRnLn: you might try #debian or #redhat also (the same module will work for all distros, usually)
[05:40] <ADRnLn> im trying to find someone who has it running on a PB that uses the USB touchpad instead of the older ADB system
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> i dont reccomend fedora
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> or debian
[05:40] <omp> durt: in the URL field, type about:plugins
[05:41] <durt> crimsun: i deleted the pluginreg.dat and it regenerated. should i move firefox of my home folder or something?
[05:41] <sportman> when im trying to do dpg -i smeg
[05:41] <ugo> i'm having problems compiling open afs on hoary?
[05:41] <ColonelKernel> the distros are good but the support channels are an abusive madhouse
[05:41] <sportman> lol
[05:41] <Versed> From what I've read, it's more of a wifi problem then anything else.
[05:41] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: ADRnLn is looking for a linux device driver, not another OS
[05:41] <crimsun> durt: I can't speak for firefox 1.5beta
[05:41] <nalioth> sportman: use the install script off the smeg homepage
[05:41] <ugo> help! it compiles with error....what do i do....what do i do!
[05:41] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, gotcha
[05:41] <omp> fedora support channel isn't bad
[05:41] <sportman> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:
[05:41] <sportman>  smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:
[05:41] <sportman>   Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.
[05:41] <sportman> lol
[05:41] <crimsun> ugo: paste the errors on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:41] <nalioth> sportman: dont paste in here
[05:41] <Versed> I have a 17inch 1.5 pb, not intending to install it on it
[05:41] <ugo> thanks one sec
[05:41] <omp> i don't think anythign compares tot he support channel of gentoo, though
[05:42] <omp> to the*
[05:42] <nalioth> sportman: use the install script from the smeg homepage
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> Please insert the disk labeled:
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> in drive /cdrom/
[05:42] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: do not paste in here, please
[05:42] <sportman> i am
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> why is it telling me that when i try to get java in synaptic?
[05:42] <ColonelKernel> the fedora support channel is pure crap, as is the debian one.
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> ok
[05:42] <sportman> i saved the script
[05:42] <sportman> there is no file type?
[05:42] <ColonelKernel> Ive never had problems in #gentoo
[05:42] <sportman> what do i do ./scriptname
[05:42] <sportman> ?
[05:42] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: (there are a few gems in #debian, but that's off-topic)
[05:43] <ColonelKernel> a few, lol
[05:43] <nalioth> sportman: or sh scriptname
[05:43] <ColonelKernel> few dozen
[05:43] <addict02> eheheh
[05:43] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: no, I meant ones that do good, like cafuego and bob2
[05:43] <ColonelKernel> oh yeah
[05:43] <ugo> one sec while i run the compile script again
[05:43] <addict02> sus
[05:43] <nalioth> crimsun: we have bob2 and cafuego in here....
[05:43] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, well thankfully theyve come here
[05:43] <sportman> haha
[05:43] <sportman> that gave me even more errors nalioth
[05:43] <sportman> :-P
[05:44] <crimsun> nalioth: again proving that not everyone in #debian is uptight
[05:44] <addict02> oi
[05:44] <nalioth> sportman: paste them somewhere
[05:44] <nalioth> sportman: but not here
[05:44] <pinko> depending on the browser, I may or may not be required to register for the new york times when I go to a news site linked from google news.
[05:44] <pinko> anyone know what sorcery is at play?
[05:44] <nalioth> pinko: cookies
[05:44] <cvt|ubuntu> i can't get hoary-extras in repository, will you help me?
[05:45] <nalioth> !tell cvt|ubuntu about repos
[05:45] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell cvt|ubuntu about hoary-extras
[05:45] <sportman> naloith
[05:45] <omp> ubuntu's package management is confusing lol
[05:45] <sportman> i pm'ed u the error
[05:45] <pilyo> hi to all
[05:46] <nalioth> sportman: read this text: paste it into #flood or a pastebin
[05:46] <pinko> nalioth: I thought it might be a special package membership deal with the browser, but ok
[05:46] <apokryphos> omp: bad idea, since (i) often considered rude to PM without requesting, (ii) not everyone in here can see the error.
[05:46] <nalioth> sportman: you CANNOT send priv msgs until you register and identify with nickserv
[05:46] <sportman> i did
[05:46] <sportman> i belive?
[05:46] <pinko> nalioth: oddly enough, elinks and w3m are handling it and opera is not
[05:46] <sportman> ahh
[05:46] <sportman> there we go
[05:46] <nalioth> !tell sportman about msg
[05:47] <apokryphos> nalioth: unless you select the option to allow it :P
[05:47] <nalioth> apokryphos: sorry, no that is a freenode setting, not an individual one
[05:47] <clarkn0va> i just got a wireless b card for this laptop.  can someone tell me what utility i need to run to set it up?
[05:48] <sportman> sorry bout the pm nalioth
[05:48] <apokryphos> nalioth: what I mean is, you can set it so that you can receive /msg from non-registered members (to ovveride freenode current), but don't worry
[05:48] <sportman> lol, but u said not to put the error in the chan
[05:48] <sportman> :-P
[05:48] <nalioth> sportman: did you not get the msg from ubotu?
[05:48] <nalioth> sportman: do not blindly msg people
[05:48] <sportman> lol
[05:48] <sportman> i got it after
[05:48] <sportman> :(
[05:49] <ugo> thanks muchos
[05:49] <sportman> well i messanged u, do u have any free time, cause u didnt want me to post the error in the main chan
[05:49] <nalioth> !tell sportman about paste
[05:49] <ADRnLn> ping robotgeek
[05:49] <nalioth> sportman: if you paste it and post your URL here, more people can help you
[05:49] <sportman> ahh
[05:49] <Diffindo> I'm trying to install the drivers for my soundcard, and in the Linux dir of my driver .zip is CALDERA, REDFLAG, and REDHAT.. Which should I use?
[05:50] <sportman> im posting my message in #flood
[05:50] <sportman> please take a look if u can
[05:50] <crimsun> ugo: be aware that you need to use gcc-3.4 to compile it
[05:50] <masterloki> hi there
[05:50] <crimsun> ugo: make sure the compiler you use matches the compiler listed in /proc/version
[05:50] <masterloki> I have a problem grub seems to have erased my win entry I want to run windows....
[05:51] <masterloki> how do I add the windows entry
[05:51] <pc9> hi
[05:51] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: where do I get .Xmodmap???
[05:51] <Flying-Penguin> sorry I didn't reply
[05:51] <Flying-Penguin> I had to host a ut2k4 server and I couldn't minimize
[05:52] <sportman> lol
[05:52] <nalioth> sportman: try "apt-get install smeg"
[05:52] <sportman> no luck
[05:52] <ColonelKernel> Flying-Penguin, I never could figure out how to run the thing properly out of console either
[05:52] <sportman> tried that along with synaptic
[05:52] <apokryphos> sportman: ...if you have backports enabled.
[05:53] <Flying-Penguin> ColonelKernel: what do you mean?
[05:53] <jazzykay> hey
[05:53] <sportman> what is backports
[05:53] <sportman> lol
[05:53] <nalioth> !tell sportman about backports
[05:53] <ColonelKernel> Flying-Penguin, how to run the ut2k4 server in console mode, without x/gnome/etc
[05:54] <omp> does gnome 2.12 have a clipboard manager?
[05:54] <apokryphos> Did gnome have *no* menu-editor before smeg?
[05:54] <jazzykay> anyone have success with audigy soundcard in breezy?
[05:54] <apokryphos> or did shortcuts have to be put in manually or something
[05:54] <nalioth> apokryphos: not to my knowledge
[05:54] <crimsun> jazzykay: paste the output of ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:54] <Flying-Penguin> ColonelKernel: I didn't run console... I played alos
[05:54] <apokryphos> nalioth: a menu-editor seems like a fairly standard thing; why so delayed?
[05:55] <omp> apokryphos: i don't think so, but it's not hard to create menu entries manually anyways :)
[05:55] <apokryphos> oh, thought so.
[05:55] <Diffindo> can XMMS play mpegs?
[05:55] <apokryphos> no
[05:55] <omp> Diffindo: mplayer
[05:55] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Diffindo about players
[05:55] <jazzykay> crimsum. i am pasting it now
[05:56] <durt> diffindo yes - get the mplayer plugin
[05:56] <Diffindo> which one
[05:56] <sportman> Depends: python-xdg (>=0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed
[05:56] <pc9> anyone care to chat wt me?
[05:56] <Diffindo> I get several with apt-get
[05:56] <sportman> ok i am close
[05:56] <sportman> it says this depends
[05:56] <sportman> :(
[05:57] <durt> diffindo try them all then
[05:57] <Flying-Penguin> will someone help me?
[05:57] <Flying-Penguin> I need to make my side scrooling work
[05:57] <Flying-Penguin> and my side buttons go back/foword
[05:57] <masterloki> can someone tell me whereis grub.con
[05:57] <masterloki> I can't find it
[05:57] <crimsun> masterloki: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:57] <cvt|ubuntu> ok, nalioth
[05:57] <masterloki> ok
[05:58] <sportman> lol
[05:58] <crimsun> licensing issues
[05:58] <cvt|ubuntu> nalioth, i got to the part that says, "add the following: deb http:..."  but *where* do they want me to add it?
[05:58] <sportman> gay licensing
[05:58] <sportman> lol
[05:58] <cvt|ubuntu> command line?
[05:58] <sportman> cause i just want smeg so i can access bittornado
[05:59] <jazzykay> are you able to see what was pasted in paste.ubuntulinux.nl.
[05:59] <sportman> but if i had java i could use azaureus
[05:59] <sportman> i got the jre1.5.0_04
[05:59] <sportman> folder
[05:59] <Flying-Penguin> ANYONE?
[05:59] <sportman> from running the install scipt
[05:59] <Diffindo> sigh...
[05:59] <sportman> where can i put that?
[05:59] <nalioth> !tell cvt|ubuntu about sources
[05:59] <crimsun> sportman: so install the java-package package and use it to create a deb from the jre you downloaded, then install that deb
[05:59] <Diffindo> All of this just to be able to watch some pr0n...
[05:59] <sportman> crimsun: i tried that
[06:00] <sportman> got more wierd ass errors
[06:00] <sportman> i installed jpackage
[06:00] <sportman> and that fakeroot thing
[06:00] <sportman> still didnt work
[06:00] <cvt|ubuntu> nalioth, i'm at the bottom of that page you gave me.
[06:00] <sportman> is there a way to take the folder that i got from running the install script
[06:00] <sportman> and drag it somewhere?
[06:00] <nalioth> where is amaranth, anyway?
[06:00] <hay> sportman: u trying to install java?
[06:00] <crimsun> sportman: no, use make-jpkg with the tarball you downloaded, not the extracted directory
[06:00] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: open with a text editor (using sudo) /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <nalioth> sportman: there is a learning curve here
[06:01] <Diffindo> !players
[06:01] <nalioth> sportman: nothin is forced on you here, like in other OS'
[06:01] <ubotu> methinks players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[06:01] <crimsun> jazzykay: what's the issue?
[06:01] <sportman> i know there is a learning curve
[06:01] <sportman> i have messed with linux 4 a while
[06:02] <jazzykay> crimsum: i have no sound whatsoever
[06:02] <sportman> i just seem to be having more problems then i usually do
[06:02] <sportman> lol
[06:02] <mik3> nalioth: just installed everything, still get: Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.
[06:02] <nalioth> sportman: go walk the dog
[06:02] <jazzykay> and i should
[06:02] <nalioth> mik3: that is strange
[06:02] <x[trick] x> i just installed ubuntu on my computer.. how can i see my fat32 drive?
[06:02] <crimsun> jazzykay: are you using the analog speaker out or the optical SPDIF?
[06:02] <mik3> yeah i must admit i am flabbergasted
[06:02] <jazzykay> pretty sure it is analog
[06:02] <aroma> how can i install my cam and printer in ubntu
[06:03] <crimsun> jazzykay: "pretty sure"?
[06:03] <jazzykay> crim: positive
[06:03] <jazzykay> logitech zx-560 thx speakers are not digital
[06:03] <durt> aroma, your cam might work if you just plug it in
[06:03] <crimsun> jazzykay: does muting 'External Amplifier' resolve the issue?
[06:03] <sportman> look there is no place to just drag the folder?>
[06:03] <aroma> really
[06:03] <sportman> i remember doing that to get it working a while back
[06:03] <sportman> but i cant remember now
[06:04] <jazzykay> crim: where the hell would i do that?
[06:04] <jazzykay> alsamixer?
[06:04] <aroma> does it work durt
[06:04] <hay> how do i enable the network if i connected the network cable after the computer booted (i have only server installed, no gui)
[06:04] <crimsun> jazzykay: using any mixer, say, Volume Control, alsamixer, aumix, amixer, ...
[06:04] <rcc_eric> why i cant access my files on floppy drives here in ubuntu
[06:04] <durt> i dont have your camera aroma, try it
[06:05] <aroma> can i used my cam if ill be in the yahoo chatroom
[06:05] <x[trick] x> i just installed ubuntu on my computer.. how can i see my fat32 drive?
[06:05] <pc9> heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[06:05] <aroma> i had plug it durt
[06:06] <durt> oh i thought you meant digital camera, not webcam, sry
[06:06] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell x[trick] x about windowsdrives
[06:06] <aroma> yeah
[06:06] <aroma> lol
[06:06] <aroma> its my webcam
[06:06] <aroma> does it work
[06:06] <ghostdog> !tell x[trick] x mountingwindows
[06:06] <aroma> in ubuntu
[06:06] <n00blar> x[trick] x, check out in /etc/fstab and see if ubuntu sees it..most likely it does
[06:06] <kriptic13> x[trick] x: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat
[06:07] <ghostdog> how can i use a webcam in yahoomessenger in Ubunto ?
[06:07] <aroma> please anybody could tell me how to install my webcam and printer
[06:07] <aroma> yeah
[06:07] <aroma> thats it
[06:07] <jazzykay> crimsum: in multimedia systems selector.. should it be esd or alsa?
[06:07] <durt> not sure about webcams, but i recall there is a client you can use call "gnothol" (?) dont know how its spelled
[06:07] <aroma> how can i use webcam
[06:07] <CarlFK> what model webcam?
[06:07] <aroma> genius
[06:07] <aroma> cam
[06:07] <kriptic13> !faq
[06:07] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[06:07] <jazzykay> crimsum: i get failed to construct test pipeline for esd
[06:08] <aroma> and kokoom
[06:08] <kailey> o.o;;
[06:08] <Diffindo> !webcam
[06:08] <Cicakman> hello..
[06:08] <kailey> Hello Cicakman.
[06:08] <n00blar> aroma, try this site: http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm
[06:08] <Cicakman> how can i install fglrx driver
[06:08] <ghostdog> !webcam
[06:08] <aroma> then
[06:08] <ugo> !tell ugo about webcam
[06:08] <Cicakman> i tried to install the driver, but the acceleration is not turned on yet
[06:08] <aroma> what is next
[06:08] <crimsun> jazzykay: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[06:09] <Cicakman> can anyone help me?
[06:09] <n00blar> cica, I'm having the same problem...can't find a fix for it yet
[06:09] <solidgroove> how do you install fonts with ubuntu?
[06:09] <durt> solidgroove: get msttcorefonts
[06:09] <nalioth> solidgroove: you drop them in ~/.fonts usually
[06:09] <jazzykay> crimsum: 0000:02:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[06:09] <durt> or put some in ~/.fonts
[06:09] <nalioth> solidgroove: any TTF fonts will work
[06:09] <solidgroove> .fonts will work in that file?
[06:10] <hay> how do i enable the network if i connected the network cable after the computer booted (i have only server installed, no gui)
[06:10] <jazzykay> crimsum: thank you in advance for helping
[06:10] <n00blar> Cicakman, I think it boils down to an issue with Xorg or a conf file in xorg...I can see the module loaded on my box
[06:10] <Cicakman> n00blar: how to see if the module is loaded? lsmod?
[06:10] <n00blar> Cicakman, or try dmesg|grep fglrx
[06:11] <CarlFK> aroma - Genius VideoCAM Web V1 2 or 3?
[06:11] <Cicakman> n00blar: oops.. forgot to download the kernel module for it
[06:11] <crimsun> jazzykay: lspci -nvv 0403
[06:11] <paulproteus> hay: ifup eth0
[06:11] <paulproteus> hay: you may need to "ifdown eth0" first.
[06:11] <nalioth> solidgroove: drop your fontmame.ttf in to your ~/.fonts directory (if you dont have one, make one
[06:12] <n00blar> Cicakman, make sure you get the headers for your kernel
[06:12] <Cicakman> can i load the module in command prompt, or do i have to reboot my computer for that?
[06:12] <solidgroove> ok
[06:12] <hay> hay: ok thanks
[06:12] <hay> paulproteus: ok thanks
[06:12] <mik3> nalioth saaaaaaave me =-/
[06:12] <jazzykay> crimsum: the switches for that command aren't working too well
[06:12] <aroma> 2
[06:12] <durt> did you just thank yourself?
[06:13] <n00blar> Cicakman, I think u need to reboot, I don't know a way to do it from cli
[06:13] <aroma> how do i install this V
[06:13] <durt> aroma, a network printer?
[06:13] <aroma> yeah
[06:13] <mik3> nalioth : without nvu i can't publish blog entries and whine to the public about my pathetic life
[06:13] <aroma> durt
[06:13] <aroma> please
[06:13] <crimsun> jazzykay: lspci -nvv |grep 0403
[06:13] <Cicakman> modprobe.. but i forgot how to do it
[06:13] <durt> aroma, is the printer on a windows machine?
[06:13] <aroma> yeah
[06:13] <Cicakman> lemme try this
[06:13] <jazzykay> crimsum: nothing returns for that value
[06:13] <CarlFK> aroma - good news is it looks like it is supported: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams
[06:13] <IceDragon> how do I use apt-get ot install files locally?
[06:14] <IceDragon> like
[06:14] <IceDragon> apt-get install /home/user/Desktop/sometarfile.tgz  ?
[06:14] <n00blar> Cica, I think modprobe -a module will do it
[06:14] <CarlFK> aroma - but that doesn't mean it will be easy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:15] <thewayofzen> bob2, around tonite?
[06:15] <aroma> ah so ..
[06:15] <nalioth> IceDragon: use dpkg to install local files
[06:16] <aroma> but wait it doesnt supported yet
[06:16] <aroma> so the webcams could not still be installed
[06:16] <aroma> am i rigth
[06:16] <aroma> plsss
[06:17] <mik3> nalioth: how about i add you an account on my box and you HELP A BROTHER OUT?!
[06:17] <mik3> =/
[06:17] <CarlFK> aroma - depends on how much effort you want to put in
[06:17] <aroma> okay
[06:17] <aroma> ill try
[06:18] <aroma> how about the printer
[06:18] <aroma> i want to install it
[06:18] <heliosh> anyone know which java compiler is a good lightweight one?  I'm using Borland's Jbuilder IDE per professor's guidance, but wanted to try some commandline editing and compiling...  I'm not sure what's the barest install of the JDK compiler from SUN, I don't think I need the 100MB+ DLs... any ideas?
[06:18] <aroma> as a network printer
[06:18] <CarlFK> aroma - what printer (sorry if I missed it)
[06:18] <aroma> its hp 1010 a laser and pixma
[06:18] <durt> aroma: go to system>admin>printing
[06:18] <Cicakman> heliosh: r u talkinga bout compiler, or IDE?
[06:19] <crimsun> jazzykay: please paste the output from ''lspci -nvv'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:19] <aroma> when i click the network printer
[06:20] <heliosh> Cicakman: I really just want something that will turn java into class on the commandline, so compiler I think!
[06:20] <durt> and use smb, and use the windows computers name, and use the printers name
[06:20] <CarlFK> "as a network printer" - does that mean it just has a eathernet connection, or it is hooked to a box and you want to print to it from other workstations?
[06:20] <aroma> yeah
[06:20] <Cicakman> heliosh: then i'm quite sure that JBuilder comes with the java compiler that you can invoke from command line
[06:20] <aroma> it will be connect through stations
[06:20] <CarlFK> aroma - yeah A or yeah B?
[06:20] <durt> heliosh: scite is good for coding
[06:20] <Cicakman> heliosh: try to find 'javac'
[06:20] <nalioth> eclipse
[06:21] <Cicakman> eclipse rocks
[06:21] <Cicakman> but i still prefer intellij
[06:21] <alexandros> anyone knowe how to switch focus on mouseover?
[06:21] <heliosh> Cicakman: brilliant, I had an intuition that might be true... I think I actuallly have eclipse installed as well; intellij?
[06:21] <aroma> yeah b
[06:21] <DDR> hey, i'm trying to find a good C++ compiler and manual, does anybody know of any good ones??
[06:21] <jazzykay> crimsum: done
[06:21] <aroma> what if its A or B
[06:21] <Cicakman> intellij is quite similar to eclipse, but hell lots more functionality
[06:21] <aroma> please give me more details
[06:21] <Cicakman> but of course it comes with extra $$$
[06:21] <heliosh> ahh
[06:22] <Cicakman> eclipse should be sufficient for most purposes
[06:22] <durt> aroma: did you go to the printing menu, and click install a new printer?
[06:22] <aroma> what must be the next if ill click network
[06:22] <aroma> yeah
[06:22] <aroma> durt
[06:22] <aroma> im in step 2 now
[06:23] <aroma> sorry step 1
[06:23] <Cicakman> n00blar!!!! welcome back! i've configured my ATI 3d acceleration
[06:23] <durt> ok, use from the pulldown menu "windows smb"
[06:23] <heliosh> Cicakman: jetbrains.com is the correct home of the Intellij package you use?
[06:23] <n00blar> Cicakman, nice!!...what did u do?
[06:23] <Cicakman> yup
[06:23] <geez> is it possible to look at the source code for basic shell commands like 'rm' 'mv' etc?
[06:23] <Cicakman> n00blar: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:23] <Cicakman> n00blar: where it says " Driver  "ati" "
[06:24] <Cicakman> n00blar : change to :
[06:24] <aroma> when i click  the network printer what next
[06:24] <Cicakman> n00blar: Driver  "fglrx"
[06:24] <CarlFK> geez - yes.  worst case, look into gentoo
[06:24] <Cicakman> heliosh: yup
[06:24] <aroma> i was confused what must i click in the right box
[06:24] <nalioth> geez: i believe you want coreutils
[06:24] <n00blar> Cicakman, mine says that and when I run fglrxinfo...Mesa still comes up :(
[06:25] <jazzykay> crimsum: i just installed beep and that is playing my mp3s. but rhythmbox is not.
[06:25] <Cicakman> n00blar: ummm....
[06:25] <geez> nalioth: from the ubuntu repositories?
[06:25] <Cicakman> n00blar: did u try lsmod | grep fglrx ?
[06:25] <heliosh> I found javac Cicakman, I installed into my home dir (the default) and it's /home/heliosh/Borland/JBuilder2005/jdk1.4/bin/javac but I guess I need to add their bin to my PATH to make it work
[06:25] <n00blar> Cicakman, Yes, I get this: fglrx                 245412  7
[06:25] <n00blar> agpgart                32328  2 intel_agp,fglrx
[06:25] <crimsun> jazzykay: in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector, what is the Default Audio Sink set to?
[06:25] <jazzykay> crimsum: any ideas? as well what is the signifcance of multimedia systems selector
[06:25] <Cicakman> heliosh: yup
[06:26] <jazzykay> crimsum: defualt is ESD
[06:26] <Cicakman> heliosh: then you can just type 'javac something.java" to compile,  and "java something" to run it
[06:26] <Cicakman> heliosh: dont forget to set environment variable JAVA_HOME
[06:26] <durt> aroma, choose windows computer (smb)
[06:26] <crimsun> jazzykay: what is beep's audio output plugin set to?
[06:26] <aroma> yeah i did it
[06:26] <Cicakman> n00blar: umm... i'm afraid i can't help any further :( what ATI card do you have?
[06:26] <jazzykay> crimsum: when i run test for pipeline esdsink i get "failed to construct test pipeline of ;ESD Enlightenment Sound Daemon'
[06:27] <durt> aroma, put in the name of your windows computer in host
[06:27] <n00blar> Cicakman, the 9800XT Pro
[06:27] <jdermer> can ubuntu read HFS partitions
[06:27] <crimsun> jazzykay: look at beep's preferences> plugins> output
[06:27] <Cicakman> n00blar: mine is Radeon X300
[06:27] <dhonn> what is the best way to install JRE
[06:27] <jazzykay> crimsum: oss output plugin
[06:27] <durt> and put the name of the printer in printer
[06:27] <aroma> ill have to choose now
[06:27] <heliosh> Cicakman: JAVA_HOME? ok, I've not heard of that; will look it up thanks
[06:27] <n00blar> Cicakman, it's a weird one..I've been reading forums and try everything and still nothing :(
[06:27] <crimsun> jazzykay: then set Multimedia Systems Selector's Default Audio Sink to osssink
[06:27] <durt> you can probably just ignore hte username and pass
[06:27] <aroma> what will be the next install or aply
[06:27] <aroma> durt
[06:28] <jazzykay> crimsum: thanks. that did it
[06:28] <Cicakman> heliosh: JAVA_HOME should point to the java directory. In your case, it would be /home/heliosh/Borland/JBuilder2005/jdk1.4/
[06:28] <dhonn> /etc/alternatives/java points to the gcj version
[06:28] <Cicakman> heliosh: without the / in the end
[06:28] <crimsun> off for a tick
[06:28] <Cicakman> n00blar... i can't remember the guy from ubuntu who's in charge of video drivers...
[06:28] <durt> aroma, install installs a new driver, i dont think you need that
[06:28] <todd_> i have tried installing suse 9.3, ubuntu hoary, and ubuntu breezy, and i have had no sound each time
[06:28] <aroma> hyeah
[06:29] <aroma> yeah durt
[06:29] <durt> now choose the printer you have from the menu
[06:29] <todd_> what would be the problem?
[06:29] <Kioshi> hi
[06:29] <aroma> so ill just click apply
[06:29] <jazzykay> crimsum: next big question.. how do i get all 4 speakers to work?
[06:29] <Cicakman> todd_: maybe you are just having the same problem as me before....
[06:29] <Kioshi> someone talk spanish here :) ?
[06:29] <aroma> ok durt
[06:29] <Cicakman> todd_: do you have dell computer?
[06:29] <todd_> gateway laptop
[06:29] <sjj> Hi, i've just upgraded from warty to hoary, and now whenever I attempt to load the 'ipw2200' (intel pro wireless) module I get an error about it being unable to load the firmware.
[06:29] <aroma> the printer is already ready
[06:29] <sjj> anyone seen this before?
[06:29] <aroma> but ill try ti first
[06:29] <todd_> i have tried EVERYTHING
[06:30] <aroma> thanks durt
[06:30] <aroma> now my problem is all my webcam
[06:30] <sjj> The weird thing is, I also get this error when I boot my old warty kernel
[06:30] <durt> so it works now? and you can print a test page?
[06:30] <_____anderson_> #foz
[06:30] <aroma> how can i used it in the yahoo messenger and how can i view webcams of the others
[06:30] <n00blar> sjj, I remember seeing that error with suse 9.3...there's a kernel patch for that...i think
[06:30] <aroma> ples pls
[06:30] <bdt1805> does anyone know where ubuntu keeps its start up log?
[06:30] <todd_> im starting to think there might be something wrong with my sound card
[06:31] <Cicakman> i'm looking forward for suse 10.0
[06:31] <sportman> nm
[06:31] <sjj> n00blar: I'm thinking it must be something in userland, because it happens even on my old warty kernel now.
[06:31] <cvt|ubuntu> nalioth, thx
[06:31] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: np, anytime
[06:31] <sjj> n00blar: so it must have been something else that was changed as part of the dist-upgrade
[06:31] <sjj> (maybe hotplug, or something)
[06:31] <n00blar> sjj, well, some Intel guy has a project for iw2000 drivers and he's got the kernel firmware on his page
[06:31] <todd_> strange thing was my sound worked when i originally had hoary installed, then i installed suse and no sound
[06:32] <n00blar> sjj, yes, if you upgrade kernel u need to re-run patch
[06:32] <bdt1805> whats everyone's favorite linux os? im thinking of installing a new os to multiboot on my second hdd
[06:32] <nalioth> bdt1805: you should ask your question in #freenode, not here
[06:33] <sjj> n00blar: rerun 'patch' ?
[06:33] <bdt1805> free node? oh ok sorry
[06:33] <n00blar> sjj, yes..the kernel firmware from the Intel guy's website
[06:34] <sjj> ubuntu couldn't do this for me?
[06:34] <geez> nalioth: where would the source for coreutils be found?
[06:34] <durt> aroma, is you cam here: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams
[06:34] <sjj> (I don't think i'm using the ipw2200 project driver, i'm just using the one that comes with the kernel)
[06:35] <aroma> none
[06:35] <n00blar> hmm...
[06:35] <todd_> is there something i could enter into the terminal that would hint to a damaged sound card?
[06:35] <aroma> it is genuis v 2
[06:35] <aroma> only
[06:36] <aroma> kocom cam
[06:37] <durt> this aroma?: http://www.geniusnet.com.tw/product/product-1.asp?pdtno=118
[06:40] <ELpH95o> what'sup
[06:40] <ELpH95o> ubuntu is nice
[06:41] <aroma> durt ubuntu doesnt support this webcam only win xp
[06:41] <citrus_> can anyone tell me what the best/most_popular/easiest ID3 tag and file editor there is  avail for linux?
[06:41] <todd_> what are some diagnostics i can perform to test my sound.  i have no sound
[06:41] <durt> aroma, but some folks might have wrote up some drivers or something, google it some
[06:42] <aroma> ok ill try
[06:42] <aroma> durt
[06:43] <ELpH95o> i have sound perfectly
[06:43] <ELpH95o> what kidn of computer you have todd?
[06:43] <todd_> gateway 4540gz laptop
[06:43] <oolon> hi all i got an ati vid card i was looking for a how to and only found one in italian any english one to get 3d running?
[06:44] <todd_> ive been trying to figure this out for weeks
[06:44] <ELpH95o> i only have a intel cely 800
[06:44] <bdt1805> what kind of ati card is it?
[06:44] <ELpH95o> and  ati+sblive
[06:44] <ELpH95o> :)works perfect for me
[06:44] <ELpH95o> at least
[06:44] <oolon> bdt1805, a radeon 9550
[06:44] <todd_> hmm
[06:45] <todd_> would there be a conflict or something?
[06:45] <durt> alsaconf todd_
[06:45] <todd_> because everything is unmuted
[06:45] <todd_> let me try that
[06:45] <bdt1805> im running a radeon 9200, the drivers that come with ubuntu are fine for me, but i dont use 3d too much, you might try ati's site
[06:45] <TheRepublic> is there a way to view avi files in ubuntu live cd  version  ?
[06:45] <ELpH95o> i mostly use audio tools
[06:46] <ELpH95o> i worship sound apps in linux
[06:46] <Madpilot> !tell oolon about ati
[06:46] <durt> btw, sound is hassleless in breezy, if youre using hoary
[06:46] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install evdev???
[06:46] <oolon> Madpilot,  thanks
[06:46] <aroma> i find it hard durt what must i do to install my webcam
[06:46] <aroma> huh
[06:46] <heliosh> durt they've smoothed sound issues?  no more fiddling with alsa and esd to get sound working?
[06:46] <todd_> my sound worked the first time i installed ubuntu (hoary), but then i thought id test out suse.  after that it didnt work
[06:48] <ian> hey
[06:48] <aroma> i cant find how to install genius webcam v 2 in the site
[06:48] <aroma> for linux
[06:48] <n00blar> Anyone knows if there's a way to run K3b in Ubuntu? the cd application that comes with it is kind of lame
[06:48] <todd_> alsaconf does not run
[06:48] <ian> can someone point me to the repositories list for ubuntu 5.04?
[06:48] <ELpH95o> good at any low level coding?
[06:49] <heliosh> n00blar: I've run K3b in Ubuntu a bunch, but prefer gnomebaker or commandline cdrecord
[06:49] <nalioth> !tell ian about sources
[06:49] <ian> i searched in the wiki but didn't find a list, just instructions on how to add them
[06:49] <Madpilot> !tell ian about repos
[06:49] <ian> thanks man
[06:49] <aroma> wher should i go if i want to use this cam
[06:49] <n00blar> heliosh, gnomebaker? can I dl that from apt-get?
[06:49] <Madpilot> ian: follow the 2nd URL in that msg from ubotu
[06:49] <heliosh> yes n00blar
[06:50] <n00blar> heliosh, cool, let me try that one...thanks
[06:50] <ian> thanks, again, c ya
[06:50] <aroma> hey got to go ill just ask again about it later thanks and c y a
[06:50] <heliosh> k3b did weird things to this config file called .ICEauthority and I repeatedly had to re chown this file to regain access to the X environment (any graphics)
[06:50] <todd_> how do i launch alsa-utils?
[06:51] <Flying-Penguin> where do I get the xorg-sdk???
[06:51] <nalioth> heliosh: its a known problem with .ICEauthority
[06:51] <ELpH95o> any coders here
[06:51] <ELpH95o> ?
[06:51] <nalioth> heliosh: the most common method is to rm .ICEauthority when it acts up (it gets recreated each session, anyway)
[06:51] <Flying-Penguin> OK GOD DAMNIT
[06:51] <ELpH95o> i want to start a midi sequencer project
[06:51] <Flying-Penguin> HOW DO I GET MY INTELLIMOUSE WORKING?
[06:52] <nalioth> Flying-Penguin: no more caps, please
[06:52] <Madpilot> Flying-Penguin: yelling probably won't help...
[06:52] <Flying-Penguin> well...
[06:52] <heliosh> yes, I was grateful to find answers to it on forums nalioth; I was recommending gnome-based burner to n00blar citing that bug as one reason to prefer gnomebaker to k3b
[06:52] <Flying-Penguin> asking for hours without anyone saying anything is going to piss me off
[06:52] <nalioth> heliosh: actually it's nautilus that causes the .ICEauthority problem
[06:52] <ELpH95o> qu8estion:if i compile alsa could i overwrite the current alsa configuration?
[06:52] <heliosh> nalioth what wm do you run?
[06:52] <durt> just get a friggin 50cent mouse at happy harry's or something
[06:52] <nalioth> Flying-Penguin: if the knowledge isnt here, yelling about it isnt gonna bring in into the channel
[06:53] <nalioth> heliosh: gnome usually
[06:53] <nalioth> heliosh: most of my productivity is done in a terminal, tho
[06:53] <marini> i can't access my floopy disk pls help me
[06:54] <n00blar> I've always used K3b and never had problems with it..then again I've always used either suse or fc on kde
[06:54] <heliosh> I like gnome on a fast computer, but have grown quite happy with xfce as I'm a teacher and have it installled on a bunch of old boxes in my classroom, my sense is it lightens and speeds things up quite a bit
[06:54] <durt> yeah xfce is what im on now :)
[06:54] <durt> much faster than gnome
[06:54] <ELpH95o> you're a teacher heliosh ?
[06:54] <nalioth> heliosh: yes xfce4 is quite snappy
[06:55] <ELpH95o> what part of Earth are you at ?
[06:55] <heliosh> durt: or anyone know how to edit the system entries within the xfce right-click menu?  would that be done via the gnome menu-editor?  yes ELpH95o 2nd grade :-)
[06:55] <todd_> what does it mean when it says "cant construct test pipeline" when i test sound
[06:55] <chavo> heliosh, xfce has it's own menu editor
[06:55] <durt> hit the settings button
[06:56] <heliosh> chavo, yes I've used that but it doesn't dip into the "system Menu", or rather that part of the menu is inaccessible I thought
[06:56] <prolific> anyone here using a DVB card ?
[06:56] <misterdiff> how can i add png images next to the usernames on the login screen?
[06:56] <chavo> heliosh, you can edit any part of the menu
[06:56] <durt> settings>destop>menu>"edit desktop menu"
[06:56] <ELpH95o> nope
[06:57] <marini> hello... is there can help me
[06:57] <durt> ask marini
[06:58] <marini> i can't access my floopy disk
[06:58] <marini> what should i do
[06:58] <ELpH95o> wherez everyone here from?
[06:58] <durt> internal floppy?
[06:58] <ELpH95o> <-- in USA
[06:58] <heliosh> durt, chavo in that XFce4-MenuEditor dialog I see about 8 editable entries, and halfway down a --include-- system entry, from where the bulk of the other entries are pulled or hooked in from soem other menu I think
[06:59] <chavo> heliosh, ah right, it's been a while since I used xfce
[06:59] <durt> yeah, heliosh, i havent figured out how to edit that, but you can comment it out and add your own stuff instead
[07:00] <marini> yes....when i use nautilus my floopy was detected but i can't access it
[07:00] <oolon> Madpilot, can i flood in #squat to show you my output of fglrx and glxgears?
[07:01] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:01] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:01] <Madpilot> oolon: paste instead, then put the URL here
[07:02] <oolon> Madpilot, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2242
[07:02] <ELpH95o> ubotu, :you in holland?
[07:02] <ubotu> ELpH95o: Syntax error in line 1
[07:03] <Madpilot> !+ubotu
[07:03] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:03] <oolon> ELpH95o, ubotu is a bot
[07:04] <ELpH95o> oolon, :you in holland ?
[07:04] <oolon> nope ELpH95o but id like to be
[07:04] <CompBrain> anyone know anything about the /dev/sda does not have a corresponding bios drive error message on grub install?
[07:05] <durt> heliosh, what file manager do you use in xfce?
[07:05] <ELpH95o> not I CompBrain
[07:05] <Madpilot> oolon: those numbers look a bit low - I get ~1600-1700 FPS with my 9600XT - but glxgears is NOT totally reliable. How do actual 3d apps/games run?
[07:05] <ELpH95o> for building audio applications
[07:05] <heliosh> durt: I just use commandline for file management
[07:06] <oolon> Madpilot, got any i can apt or easy to install to try?
[07:06] <heliosh> durt: once in a while I use the default one whatever it's called xffm or something; it's not very intuitive for me though
[07:06] <Madpilot> oolon: Scorched3d is in the Ubuntu repos - it's a fun game anyway
[07:07] <jr_astig01> hi
[07:07] <durt> how do you get glxgears to output the fps?
[07:07] <oolon> Madpilot, thanks! btw im leeching and have a few distributed apps running in the backround
[07:07] <Madpilot> durt: open it from the command line
[07:07] <Madpilot> oolon: me too, I run six virtual desktops and currently about 15 tabs open in Opera too...
[07:08] <oolon> durt just type glxgears in terminal
[07:08] <durt> madpilot: i did, and i got some gears spinning and thats all
[07:08] <oolon> Madpilot, and still 1600 fps
[07:08] <dle> Hdo i dynamically load apache2 modules?  mod_rewrite, in particular?   I have mod_rewrite enabled as a symlink: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load.  However, 'apache2ctl -l' doesn't list it, and this behaviour suggests that's so.  Running hoary.
[07:08] <dle> s/Hdo/How do/
[07:08] <No1Viking> Are there any application for linux alike route66, the road planner?
[07:08] <oolon> durt wait it will appear in the terminal window
[07:09] <Madpilot> oolon: yeah; 1.9Ghz XPM w/ 1Gb RAM plus the 9600XT...
[07:09] <durt> wait for how long oolon?
[07:10] <oolon> Madpilot, whoah scorched3d is 75mb
[07:10] <Madpilot> durt: glxgears should post FPS every few seconds to the terminal window...
[07:10] <oolon> durt is it still howing the gears?
[07:10] <oolon> showing*
[07:10] <drapelyk> what's the linux equivalent to tracert to resolve hostnames?
[07:10] <oolon> drapelyk, traceroute i think
[07:10] <durt> ive had the glxgears window on for some time now, but now output is in the terminal
[07:11] <drapelyk> ha, thanks
[07:11] <BlueEagle> drapelyk: traceroute?
[07:11] <Madpilot> durt: and you started it from the command terminal?
[07:11] <durt> yup
[07:11] <drapelyk> it's not working
[07:11] <BlueEagle> drapelyk: sudo traceroute
[07:11] <drapelyk> k
[07:11] <drapelyk> command not found
[07:12] <BlueEagle> drapelyk: install traceroute first then. :)
[07:12] <Juhaz> traceroute isn't installed in ubuntu by default, which is damn strange, not to mention stupid
[07:12] <drapelyk> how do I install it? synaptic?
[07:12] <silverton> drapelyk, sudo apt-get install tracerouter
[07:12] <silverton> er, without that last r
[07:13] <florg> hi. installed ubuntu 5.10: rhythmbox can't load most of my mp3's and all movies are played withou sound - is there some codecs missing? how can i fix that?
[07:13] <durt> oh well, glxgears isnt that important
[07:13] <Madpilot> back later - real world interupt...
[07:13] <silverton> florg, yes, I don't think ubuntu ships with mp3 support
[07:14] <florg> silverton, how can i get mp3 support?
[07:14] <n00blar> florg, get xmms
[07:14] <florg> which packages etx
[07:14] <durt> !restricted
[07:14] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:14] <CompBrain> amd64 support seems to suck.
[07:14] <heliosh> so I remember in gnome there's a menu editor you can dl and install; If I remember correctly there is NO way to manually edit the ascii files that load the gnome menus correct?  anyone know?
[07:14] <n00blar> I apt-get xmms and I can play my mp3s
[07:15] <silverton> wow...  was ubotu written by the same person that did the one in #debian?
[07:15] <BlueEagle> n00blar: good for you.
[07:15] <silverton> CompBrain, probably better off with debian for that
[07:15] <omp> i still can't decide whether to get livecd or install cd of breezy
[07:16] <silverton> omp, get livecd to make sure your hardware works with it :P
[07:16] <florg> yes, xmms works. but i want rhythmbox to play my files and movies to have sound...
[07:16] <CompBrain> silverton: debian is worse off
[07:16] <CompBrain> at least ubuntu is using 2.6.12
[07:16] <silverton> florg, do what that link I sent you tells you to do
[07:16] <CompBrain> which supports dual core
[07:16] <omp> silverton: i guess i'll just get the livecd since i'm not switching to ubuntu anytime soon
[07:16] <silverton> CompBrain, use unstable then...
[07:16] <oolon> Madpilot, not sure what im doing in the game :)
[07:16] <ELpH95o> im using ubuntu 5.04
[07:17] <florg> thx
[07:17] <silverton> breezy == unstable
[07:17] <silverton> florg, get my link?
[07:18] <silverton> omp, I still haven't gotten a gentoo install to work correctly >.<  I feel so noobish
[07:18] <florg> yes
[07:18] <silverton> florg, good :)
[07:18] <BlueEagle> silverton: As long as you follow the instructions you should be ok to be honest.
[07:18] <Quequeg> is breezy/unstable == gentoo/testing Or gentoo/unstable?
[07:18] <BlueEagle> silverton: I still haven't gotten a gentoo install to _not_ work. :p
[07:19] <omp> silverton: it's very easy.. the install guide is VERY detailed
[07:19] <Dr_willis> breezy is working very well on  my Turion64 based laptop... Weee!
[07:19] <silverton> BlueEagle, heh, yeah, I do follow the instructions...  that I thought at least >.<
[07:19] <BlueEagle> quequeg: None of them afaik.
[07:19] <Quequeg> BlueEagle, that's not helpful.
[07:19] <omp> i like gentoo because it has good performance
[07:20] <omp> since you compile everything yourself
[07:20] <durt> heliosh, you might as well just add your apps to the menu from scratch, by hand
[07:20] <Dr_willis> omp,  i never saw that give me much of a gain
[07:20] <silverton> omp, in all honesty, it doesn't really make THAT much of a difference
[07:20] <Dr_willis> of course a mistake in your flags could make some things worse.. i guess as well.
[07:20] <omp> and my vid card performs a lot better in gentoo
[07:20] <heliosh> durt: I can't seem to hide what it's pulling in from gnome... although I suppose I could move or chmod/hide access to /usr/share/applications which is where gnome menu seems to get its data
[07:21] <Rotund> anyone here have a problem getting their airport to work?
[07:21] <BlueEagle> quequeg: One of my many trademarks. :)
[07:21] <durt> heliosh, you might have to restart the panel (i forget the command though)
[07:21] <nalioth> Rotund: airport extreme will not work under linux
[07:21] <Micksa> where to module cmdline options go?
[07:21] <Micksa> I need to pass one to psmouse
[07:21] <durt> or restart x
[07:21] <Micksa> I can add the module to /etc/modules I guess
[07:22] <nalioth> heliosh: open a terminal and type "killall gnome-panel" to restart your panel
[07:22] <Micksa> but like, can't you get hotplug to pass it? that'd be neater
[07:22] <silverton> durt, it's sudo killall gnome-panel
[07:22] <heliosh> nalioth: i'm in xfce4
[07:22] <durt> hes in xfce
[07:22] <silverton> ohh, okay
[07:22] <heliosh> be right back :-)
[07:22] <Rotund> nalioth: it is not an extreme
[07:22] <nalioth> heliosh: kill whatever your panel is
[07:23] <nalioth> Rotund: your airport should work ootb
[07:23] <Rotund> Should... yup
[07:23] <Rotund> I can't even get it to work w/ fiddling
[07:23] <Rotund> I think it may be choosing the incorrect firmware or something
[07:24] <Rotund> nalioth: It DOES work under OSX and I am POSITIVE it is the 11Mbps verison
[07:24] <Rotund> join #apple
[07:24] <Rotund> doh
[07:24] <durt> yeah nalioth, its xfc4-panel thankx
[07:25] <nalioth> Rotund: it has two ##
[07:25] <Rotund> yup
[07:25] <durt> any luck heliosh?
[07:26] <heliosh> hehe not yet
[07:26] <durt> oh and, heliosh, do you know how to turn off the system sounds and beeps?
[07:27] <heliosh> a total tangent to what I was doing, but you all reminded me somehow of it and I guess steady improvements although small make one happy in the longrun; no durt, I don't get beeps very often; hardly ever
[07:28] <durt> ok
[07:28] <durt> maybe ill just go delete some stuff
[07:29] <nomasteryoda|w> durt, as root
[07:29] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[07:30] <ngmlinux> anyone know any good sites that explain how to write Java (or C) programs that can read and right to serial ports?
[07:32] <yawgmoth7> Is anybody having a problem with apt-get install?
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> For some reason i cant install any of the packages
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> Like
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> Ill do
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> sudo apt-get install ethereal
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> And it says that isnt a package
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> And it says that ettercap isnt
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> And lots of differnet things
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> So im wondering if something has changed
[07:33] <chickboiec> hello all
[07:33] <durt> you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the commented repos
[07:34] <chickboiec> anybody uses wine?
[07:34] <robotgeek> not terribly busy here
[07:34] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: I've got it installed...
[07:34] <chickboiec> or winex
[07:34] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[07:34] <yawgmoth7> Thanks
[07:34] <yawgmoth7> Ill try
[07:34] <chickboiec> blue eagle, version 5.04?
[07:34] <durt> wine pisses me off
[07:35] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: I'll have to reboot to find out.
[07:35] <chickboiec> no
[07:35] <chickboiec> type uname
[07:35] <yawgmoth7> What is a repo
[07:36] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: ?
[07:36] <yawgmoth7> besides
[07:36] <chickboiec> nevermind
[07:36] <yawgmoth7> sources.list is read-only
[07:36] <chickboiec> go ahead tnx
[07:36] <BlueEagle> oh, you're thinking about ubuntu version. I thought you were talking about wine version.
[07:36] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: I've got breezy installed atm.
[07:36] <BlueEagle> yawgmoth7: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <BlueEagle> yawgmoth7: you need to be super-user to modify it.
[07:37] <chickboiec> ah
[07:37] <chickboiec> ok what wine version
[07:37] <chickboiec> breezy is for?
[07:37] <chickboiec> didnt check man
[07:37] <chickboiec> sorry
[07:38] <durt> yawgmoth7: sudo gedit /apt/sources.list
[07:38] <durt> see the ubuntu wiki
[07:38] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:38] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: Well, I'd need to rebott to find that out.
[07:38] <yawgmoth7> Thanks, im doing that rihgt now, and then i take out the # infront of the lines and stuff?
[07:38] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: uname on this box sais Linux terje 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 #1 Wed Aug 24 07:42:27 CEST 2005 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux :p
[07:38] <yawgmoth7> Lines like:
[07:39] <yawgmoth7> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[07:39] <yawgmoth7> That stuff?
[07:39] <BlueEagle> !repos
[07:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:39] <durt> take that out of the lines that start with "deb" - yes
[07:39] <phempa> howdy pholks
[07:39] <BlueEagle> yawgmoth7: read that url ubotu coughed up.
[07:39] <yawgmoth7> Ok, im sorry, i really no nothing about linux
[07:39] <derek[] > Hi
[07:40] <derek[] > How debian is ubuntu?
[07:40] <phempa> quick question.... I accidentally removed what would be the equivalent to Window's system tray from the top right corner..... what can I do to get that back?
[07:40] <DjKritical> phempa, right cloick on the panel, and select add to panel
[07:41] <BlueEagle> derek[] : ubuntu is about as debian as java is c afaik
[07:41] <Myrtti> notification panel
[07:41] <phempa> hmm
[07:41] <Myrtti> notification area
[07:41] <phempa> I tried that, but it's not back
[07:41] <Myrtti> doh
[07:41] <durt> yeah ubuntu is slow as a monkey
[07:41] <DjKritical> derek[] , very similar, but also very different.... I'd say... debian is better for servers etc... and ubuntu is better as a desktop pc...
[07:42] <derek[] > hm
[07:42] <derek[] > why?
[07:42] <phempa> like, for Azureus's tray icon
[07:42] <Myrtti> phempa: right click on the panell, add to panel, notification area?
[07:42] <Joe41> why is it slow as a monkey?
[07:42] <phempa> tried that Myrtti
[07:42] <phempa> didnt do it
[07:42] <Myrtti> o.0
[07:42] <BlueEagle> durt: That was not what I tried to convey with that analogy.
[07:42] <DjKritical> durt: my ubuntu is ultra fast, you must have installed yours wrong or something
[07:42] <BlueEagle> derek[] : ubuntu is based on debian, so they are quite similar. However there are differences.
[07:42] <durt> slow as a lazy monkey then
[07:43] <durt> at least on my older comp
[07:43] <Kyral> Define old
[07:43] <Joe41> would you suggest anouter linux dist??
[07:43] <Kyral> Are we talking 5 years ago old
[07:43] <derek[] > BlueEagle, are the kernels diff.?
[07:43] <Kyral> or 10 years ago old
[07:43] <Kyral> and holy shit I should be going to bed
[07:43] <fmasi> Hi can some one tell me wy my downloads in synaptic are so slow
[07:43] <BlueEagle> derek[] : There are different patches in ubuntu than in debian afaik.
[07:44] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:44] <Kyral> fmasi, is it a recent slowdown?
[07:44] <durt> arg - its quarter of 2
[07:44] <DjKritical> fmasi, you may have the wrong geographical location setyup for your pc
[07:44] <BlueEagle> fmasi: because you're not using your closest mirror?
[07:44] <Kyral> Anyway I'm going to bed
[07:44] <Kyral> no one start a flame war without me
[07:45] <BlueEagle> not sure which mirror is closest to brazil. Besides it's a big country. :)
[07:45] <jtan325> anyone here use breezy?
[07:45] <chickboiec> im having problems with dependencies
[07:45] <BlueEagle> jtan325: I've got it installed.
[07:45] <fmasi> I just istal ubuntu so very ew to it
[07:45] <jtan325> BlueEagle, where is sunj2re-1.5?
[07:45] <fmasi> i was i gentoo
[07:45] <jtan325> and w32codecs?
[07:46] <chickboiec> how is it going with breezy?
[07:46] <jtan325> or is there a "backports" for breezy
[07:46] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:46] <jtan325> although that doesn't really make sense
[07:46] <chickboiec> can u install breezy right away?
[07:46] <durt> hoary backports
[07:46] <Kyral> jtan325, use the Haory Backports
[07:46] <p0windah> chickboiec: you sure can
[07:46] <BlueEagle> jtan325: Not sure. I haven't had use for either of those.
[07:46] <pauldaoust> hey, has anyone upgraded today and had a catastrophic failure?
[07:46] <jtan325> hmmm ok
[07:46] <pauldaoust> as in, snd-intel8x0 not existing in /etc/modules?
[07:46] <chickboiec> i mean winex or wine
[07:46] <derek[] > <BlueEagle> derek[] : There are different patches in ubuntu than in debian afaik.
[07:46] <derek[] > what patches?
[07:46] <pauldaoust> sorry, didn't mean to say /etc/modules
[07:46] <fmasi> I downloding stuf at max 17k normaly i do 32
[07:46] <pauldaoust> I meant to say that the module doesn't exit.
[07:47] <pauldaoust> exist
[07:47] <BlueEagle> derek[] : kernel patches.
[07:47] <derek[] > ok
[07:47] <Kyral> chickboiec, if you aren't prepared to get major **** ups in Breezy, don't do it. Its still in development
[07:47] <jtan325> Kyral, what?
[07:47] <chickboiec> ok
[07:47] <jtan325> it's not so bad
[07:47] <BlueEagle> derek[] : didn't you ask about kernel differences in debian and ubuntu?
[07:47] <chickboiec> i will stick with 5.04
[07:47] <durt> breezy has fewer cuff ups than hoary
[07:48] <chickboiec> i just have problems with using winetools
[07:48] <chickboiec> cant install it
[07:48] <Kyral> jtan325, Right now it seems like a lot of beginners have it in there heads that "I want the NEWEST!" and Breezy is technically the newest
[07:48] <chickboiec> forums says it has problems with the way the package is built
[07:48] <omp> this is killing me
[07:48] <Kyral> what they DON'T realize is that its also in development
[07:48] <jtan325> hehe
[07:49] <jtan325> i guess if you are a first-timer
[07:49] <omp> i install ubuntu, then gentoo, then ubuntu, then gentoo, etc.
[07:49] <Kyral> so even this late in the game showstopper bugs can kill you
[07:49] <chickboiec> kyral, dsl1 ring a bell?
[07:49] <omp> i'm having trouble deciding
[07:49] <omp> =[
[07:49] <durt> but breezy works better than hoary, development or not
[07:49] <BlueEagle> omp: Why don't you install both?
[07:49] <Kyral> chickboiec, wha....
[07:49] <Kyral> durt, but there are still killer bugs
[07:49] <omp> BlueEagle: what am i going to do with two? :)
[07:49] <Dr_willis> durt,  works better for me ;) on my Turion64 laptop!
[07:49] <chickboiec> the dsl1 at the last part of every package
[07:49] <ELpH95o> which version of ubuntu u using?
[07:49] <Kyral> the wha?
[07:49] <BlueEagle> durt: That depends on how you define "work better". Localization is not finished or nearly as good in .10 as it is in .04
[07:50] <chickboiec> 04
[07:50] <Kyral> I'm no package maintainer
[07:50] <BlueEagle> omp: Use the one you feel like using that particular day.
[07:50] <Kyral> and I REALLY have to go to bed
[07:50] <chickboiec> i mean i always get that package problem
[07:50] <durt> its friday night kyral, you dont need to go to bed
[07:50] <chickboiec> can ubuntu run wine?
[07:50] <durt> yes
[07:51] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: yes.
[07:51] <chickboiec> winetools?
[07:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:51] <Dr_willis> whats winetools ?
[07:51] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[07:51] <chickboiec> u use it after installing wine
[07:51] <chickboiec> i suppose
[07:51] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: tall glasses
[07:51] <Dr_willis> i never have :P
[07:51] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: like the stuff you use to enjoy wine.
[07:52] <chickboiec> lolz
[07:52] <Dr_willis> BlueEagle,  a cork puller? :P
[07:52] <omp> winetools is horrible