[00:00] <MrHacks> I've chosen not to encrypt the hard drive on a new Ubuntu setup on another computer.
[00:00] <k1l> debiantoruser: im not sure if that is not breaking the gnome
[00:00] <MrHacks> So, encrypt nothing, caryhartline ?
[00:01]  * MrHacks is doing a new install right now
[00:01] <caryhartline> Idk, I just found that I don't have the knowledge to figure out a bad encryption setup.
[00:01] <tgm4883> MrHacks, depends on why you need encryption I guess
[00:02] <caryhartline> This all started because of a blog that gave a line of terminal uninstall to completely uninstall kubuntu.
[00:02] <tgm4883> caryhartline, admittedly, didn't you try to do something you weren't supposed to and end up breaking it? or was that someone else
[00:02] <jmcantrell> always encrypt if it's a laptop. encrypt your desktop if you're at all worried about someone stealing it, and don't encrypt servers
[00:02] <caryhartline> It deleted crypt_setup
[00:03] <caryhartline> I guess uninstalling crypt_setup will totally mess up your computer.
[00:03] <MrHacks> tgm, its my new desktop. I'm not working for the NSA. I do like using VNC so I can use my desktop via my tablet when the cat is in my lap
[00:03] <tgm4883> caryhartline, so you had an encrypted home dir?
[00:03] <silverone> MrHacks: do send us a picture of that
[00:03] <tgm4883> MrHacks, I'd agree with jmcantrell
[00:04] <mpma> good evening!
[00:04] <MrHacks> Then my decision is not to encrypt anything.
[00:05] <tgm4883> caryhartline, I mean, if you have an encrypted home dir, and you backup the encryption passphrase, then you should be able to recover it from the live cd. There is even a blog post about it http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[00:05] <caryhartline> It wasn't my home directory. I had it so u pressed f12 after turning it on and entering a crypt_setup sda5 password
[00:05] <MrHacks> Any objections before I click "continue"?
[00:05] <caryhartline> It was the entire hard drive
[00:06] <MrHacks> going once
[00:06] <unheeding> can anyone test and see if this bug effects them, and if so, add themselves to the bug report?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1123593
[00:06] <MrHacks> going twice
[00:06] <MrHacks> CLICKY POO!
[00:07] <tgm4883> caryhartline, it seems like you should still be able to recover if you have the passphrase
[00:09] <MrHacks> I'm looking forward to using steam soon and progeamming a whole mess of python programs again
[00:09] <caryhartline> Well I can unlock it, but I can't mount it.
[00:09] <tgm4883> caryhartline, why not, what happens when you mount it?
[00:10] <caryhartline> It says it can't mount cryptos luks or something like that.
[00:10] <MrHacks> I've been in hell the past couple of years with my netbook, so It feels good to have some legroom again.
[00:11] <tgm4883> caryhartline, how are you unlocking it?
[00:11] <MonkeyDust> MrHacks  stop spawning random remarks, please
[00:11] <MrHacks> sorry
[00:12] <caryhartline> I unlocked it on the live cd
[00:13] <caryhartline> And there was a thread that told me how to unlock it from terminal.
[00:13] <tgm4883> caryhartline, can you paste what commands you used to unlock it and what command you tried to mount it with?
[00:13] <caryhartline> It can't boot into that because "it can't find root directory"
[00:14] <caryhartline> I found how to unlock here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681
[00:14] <tgm4883> caryhartline, a 5 year old thread?
[00:14] <caryhartline> Yes
[00:14] <caryhartline> It was luksOpen
[00:14] <tgm4883> yeesh
[00:15] <caryhartline> That's one of the only threads with my exact problem.
[00:15] <tgm4883> caryhartline, ok, then you tried mounting it via something similar to 'mount /dev/sda2 /mnt' and that is where you got the error?
[00:16] <caryhartline> Yes
[00:16] <caryhartline> I also tried using install from the live cd and got a similar error
[00:17] <tgm4883> caryhartline, do you have anything on there that you actually want, or have you already blown it all away?
[00:18] <tgm4883> caryhartline, some searching suggests that you should use 'mount /dev/mapper/<tag> /mnt' to mount it, rather than /dev/sdXY
[00:20] <tgm4883> "You have made an encrypted partition, known as /dev/mapper/crypto (instead of /dev/sda8, which is now useless to the normal tools - mount /dev/sda8, for example, will no longer work.)"
[00:22] <jpmh> under ubuntu if I click on the volume icon there is am option to open sound settings, and there I can set my speakers at more than 100% - how do I do this with lubuntu which seems to use a different sound applet?
[00:24] <g16> jpmh: sudo apt-get install pavucontrol && pavucontrol &
[00:25] <caryhartline> I just moved over everything to an external harddrive so I don't have any worries now.
[00:27] <tgm4883> caryhartline, so you were able to mount it and copy your stuff off?
[00:27] <caryhartline> Ok so I guess I was able to mount it on the live cd, but I still can't boot from it.
[00:28] <caryhartline> New problem: http://i.imgur.com/GSBJiPi.jpg
[00:28] <tgm4883> caryhartline, ah ok, yea that was my question then
[00:28] <tgm4883> caryhartline, you are still in the live cd session that you mounted and backed your stuff up from?
[00:28] <caryhartline> Yes
[00:29] <tgm4883> caryhartline, and I'm assuming that is where you mounted it?
[00:29] <caryhartline> Yes
[00:29] <tgm4883> then yea, if you want to use that disk for your new install, you'll need to unmount it
[00:29] <caryhartline> I can't mount it from the terminal, weirdly.
[00:29] <caryhartline> So yes on prompt?
[00:30] <Flynsarmy> I installed gnome shell and when i turn my tv off and on again my full screen window isnt' full screen anymore until I press teh windows key. is there a way to stop that from happenin?
[00:30] <tgm4883> caryhartline, yea
[00:31] <caryhartline> Ugh I hate that I'll have to reinstall everything.
[00:31] <caryhartline> Steam games take so long to download/update
[00:32] <clipper> get list
[00:32] <clipper> Get List
[00:34] <caryhartline> New problem: http://i.imgur.com/x6Y36BU.jpg
[00:34] <caryhartline> What do?
[00:34] <debiantoruser> How to trully hold packages ? http://pastebin.com/N1zFuta1
[00:35] <AndChat-224721> !pin
[00:36] <caryhartline> Should I delete /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root?
[00:37] <vairos> Somebody knows an Electronic Circuit IRC channel?
[00:37] <_goxxsy_> `hi :-)
[00:38] <vairos> Hello
[00:38] <_goxxsy_> hello !
[00:38] <somsip> !alis | vairos
[00:39] <vairos> Thanks
[00:39] <dr-willis> why do you think you need to caryhartline
[00:39] <sencha> Anyone else have a LOT of pictures in ~/Pictures who has issues with the Appearance dialog in gnome-control-center?
[00:39] <landswipe> hey people, i grabbed the minimal install cd, it's like 30mb or so
[00:40] <landswipe> but when i install it downloads like 1gb - just with basic server and openssh installed
[00:40] <sencha> Appearance appears to try to load thumbnails of all the pictures, and then fails/freezes when it finds too many
[00:40] <sencha> considering submitting a bug report
[00:40] <landswipe> is there a way to really 'strip back' ubuntu to like a couple of hundred megs?
[00:40] <landswipe> 1gb is a fn lot of software.
[00:40] <caryhartline> Because I have a ton of partitions on here now and I just want one big hard drive
[00:41] <landswipe> i should have said 'downloads and installs to' 1gb.
[00:42] <elijah> If I saved a file to ~example.txt and not ~/example.txt, where would the file have been saved to?
[00:43] <elijah> I didn't get any errors when saving to ~example.txt
[00:43] <jpmh> g16: ty so much - just what I wanted
[00:43] <elijah> nvm
[00:43] <elijah> it will be the filename
[00:45] <caryhartline> Stupid install froze so I just shut it down and restart. Let's hope it works this time.
[00:47] <marwan_> how to access rails app running locally on ubuntu 12.10 (localhost:3000), from windows pc on the same network
[00:51] <mickster04> ip address?
[00:53] <technojabber> Hello
[00:54] <K3rmit> Hi I'm trying to get my usb atheros wireless card to work. When I do modprobe ath9k_htc I get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ath9k_htc (/lib/modules/2.6.32-35-generic/updates/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k_htc.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[00:54] <PoolShark_> did you see dmesg?
[00:55] <mtadyshak> trying to automatically assign an IP address to our USB RNDIS device.
[00:55] <mtadyshak> Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file
[00:55] <PoolShark_> wait
[00:55] <mtadyshak> auto lo
[00:55] <mtadyshak> iface lo inet loopback
[00:55] <mtadyshak> allow-hotplug usb0
[00:55] <mtadyshak> iface usb0 inet static
[00:55] <mtadyshak> 	address <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:55] <FloodBot1> mtadyshak: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:55] <mtadyshak> 	netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:56] <PoolShark_> tried to warn him
[00:57] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ but I'm not sure what to look for
[00:57] <bookpage> can somebody tell me exactly what happens when I exit a shell? In particular, what happens to the tty and any other processes that are using that tty?
[00:58] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: are you at a tty or are you puttied in or what? if you can, open two concurrent shells and do a tail -f /var/log/dmesg in one and the modprobe in the other, and see what pops up in dmesg when you run the modprobe
[00:58] <K3rmit> ok
[01:00] <mtadyshak> I pasted a question about isc-dhcp-server here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1641626/
[01:01] <technojabber> Can not delete a folder
[01:02] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ http://pastebin.com/q9G2sWi0
[01:04] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: I don't see anything in there that says anythying useful about your module problem
[01:05] <thatoneging> somebody available to help with wifi help?
[01:05] <usr13> thatoneging: Sure.
[01:05] <caryhartline> Installation is complete! :D
[01:06] <thatoneging> got a Ralink RT3290, trying to find somewhere online to help but really havent found anything definite to help
[01:07] <usr13> thatoneging: What's it doing?  (or not doing?
[01:07] <caryhartline> Thanks guy :) http://i.imgur.com/lUv93WM.jpg
[01:08] <thatoneging> doesnt recognize any wireless networks
[01:08] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ maybe here? http://pastebin.com/11yRUSu6
[01:09] <usr13> thatoneging: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/wireless-ralink-rt3290-not-working-on-asus
[01:09] <thatoneging> thank you so much
[01:09] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: sorry, i don't see anything there either...
[01:10] <K3rmit> what are you looking for?
[01:10] <usr13> thatoneging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466
[01:11] <usr13> thatoneging: But looks like that first link is all you need.
[01:12] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ here? http://pastebin.com/t2djgENL
[01:12] <thatoneging> first link as in the linux triaged?
[01:13] <sw0rdfish> is editing the iptables.conf and putting in rules the same as putting them in one by one in terminal
[01:13] <sw0rdfish> ?
[01:14] <darkomenz> hello, could anyone assist me with getting bonded vlans working on ubuntu 12.10 server?
[01:14] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: that's more like it..looks like you have dependent modules that were compiled on different kernel versions
[01:14] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: or something
[01:15] <sevenhill> hi everyone
[01:15] <cf16> hi
[01:15] <cf16> : p
[01:15] <microm> anyone got the sound working in kdenlive in precise?
[01:16] <heywood> hi all, i have sshguard 1.5-4 running (installed via apt). ps aux shows  it running with a whitelist (-w /etc/sshguard/whitelist). whitelist contains my IP. but sshguard keeps adding it to hosts.deny. anyone else seen this?
[01:16] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ ? Sorry I disconnected for a sec
[01:16] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: no problem. That looks like you have modules with conflicting versions
[01:17] <K3rmit> why
[01:17] <crazybrain> tgm4883: how to download Aria2c?
[01:17] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: maybe like a parent modules and child module were compiled on different kernel versions or something... not really sure
[01:18] <KristisB> hello, can you help me to try to understand some graphical terms in Unix-like operating systems?:)
[01:18] <crazybrain> How to download downloader for x in ubuntu 12.10?
[01:19] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: I have no idea why
[01:20] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: you can *try* modprobe --dump-modversions ath9k-htc
[01:21] <bulletrulz> hey?
[01:21] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: and if you're feeling really saucy, you can modprobe -f , but realize this may crash your system
[01:22] <heywood> KristisB: what specific terms are you trying to understand?
[01:22] <K3rmit> PoolShark_ FATAL: ath9k-htc: No such file or directory
[01:23] <bulletrulz> so i installed plank and tried to put a theme on it but it didnt work
[01:24] <KristisB> heywood,  desktop environment and graphical shell. some guy on #debian told me that Unity isn't a shell, it's a desktop environment.
[01:24] <bulletrulz> KristisB, hes right sense it is build of gnome 3 shell
[01:25] <heywood> KristisB: that's technically correct. you can think of a shell as an interpreter that understands a specific set of commands. (for example, sh, bash, ksh, tcsh -- those are all shells. )
[01:25] <crazybrain> alternative to Internet Download Manager in Ubuntu 12.10?
[01:25] <histo> KristisB: Unity is a shell ontop of gnome 3
[01:26] <Justice> when trying to install linux-headers 3.7 i get that dependency are not met, but the 3.7 kernel installed just fine.
[01:26] <Justice> any ideas?
[01:26] <heywood> KristisB: the desktop environment is the thing that defines how the desktop looks and operates. gnome and KDE are examples of those.
[01:26] <histo> KristisB: There are desktopp environments and window managers
[01:26] <histo> !unity | KristisB
[01:27] <KristisB> histo, so GNOME project is a desktop environment, a core basics, and graphical shell is something more specific, right?
[01:27] <histo> KristisB: With gnome 3 came this whole shell business in the sense of GUI atleast. Not to be confused with shells like bash zsh etc... The shells control how gnome looks adds features etc...
[01:27] <histo> KristisB: Right
[01:28] <histo> KristisB: There are other desktop environments like xfce lxde etc... And then there are window managers, Window managers control window borders, buttons, and their placement etc...
[01:28] <josesierra> hello!  I get a *lot* of apport-gtk errors.  Like, tons.  How can I fix this?
[01:29] <KristisB> histo, since I am now on Debian Squeeze, I asked #debian, "If Ubuntu now uses Unity as a graphical shell for Gnome, what is that that Debian Squeeze uses as a graphical shell?".
[01:30] <histo> KristisB: If you install gnome 3 in debian it will use the default shell.
[01:30] <histo> !gnome3 | KristisB
[01:31] <histo> KristisB: I believe squeze has gnome 2 by default though. That does not use shells.
[01:31] <tjbiddle> Hi guys. Not sure on the keywords for this, but I'm not coming up with a solution. Is it possible to have a global setting to change the terminal background when you SSH into a server? (On a per-server basis, not already set in my own terminal settings). Would like to have different colors dependent upon what environment I'm in.
[01:32] <histo> KristisB: Yeah I just checked on my debian box gnoe 2.3x
[01:33] <histo> tjbiddle: That would be controlled by your client terminal somehow. I cna't think of a way to do it server side nor would it make sense to do it that way.
[01:33] <Cyclohexane> Hi can someone help me with a network?
[01:33] <KristisB> histo, so we only have shell when an desktop environment is edited?
[01:34] <histo> KristisB: No only have shells with gnome 3
[01:34] <PoolShark_> K3rmit: I may have the name of your module wrong...
[01:34] <tjbiddle> histo: Damn. Alright. Why would it not make sense to do it serverside (If it were possible)? We could enforce a certain color on production servers to reduce any confusion.
[01:34] <histo> again not to be confused with bash or zsh etc...
[01:35] <histo> !details | Cyclohexane
[01:35] <histo> tjbiddle: If you could you'd have to make the changes on each server as apposed to just doing it on one client.
[01:36] <tjbiddle> histo: Puppet ;-)
[01:36] <tjbiddle> histo: Wanted to ensure it for multiple users, not just myself.
[01:37] <KristisB> histo, so GNOME 2 doesn't allow different shells, just to use the default environment as a shell, from 3 version on we can use shells like Unity or Cinnamon that are based on some core desktop environment?
[01:37] <histo> tjbiddle: Yea because what if A user ssh'd in with a terminal that didn't support colors then what would the server do? also how it even take control of the remote terminal?
[01:37] <histo> KristisB: Shells don't exist in gnome2
[01:38] <tjbiddle> histo: All hypothetical :) Would just be an added benefit for those who it did support. Ah well. Thanks!
[01:38] <histo> KristisB: Gnome 2 however did use a window manager to draw window decorations and handle placement like metacity or compiz.
[01:38] <histo> tjbiddle: I can't think of a way to do it or know of anything that exists. You may want to check cli-apps or ask in #linux
[01:39] <KristisB> histo,  so how can I see something on Monitor?:)
[01:39] <histo> KristisB: Huh?
[01:40] <histo> KristisB: http://xwinman.org/
[01:40] <KristisB> histo, I treated the whole view that I see on my screen as I graphical shell.
[01:40] <KristisB> as a*
[01:40] <ovejanegra> how do i become root when running a live cd_
[01:40] <ovejanegra> ?
[01:41] <johnjohn101> how do i get libreoffice 4.0 into 12.04?
[01:42] <histo> ovejanegra: sudo -i
[01:42] <nearst> hola
[01:42] <histo> !backports | johnjohn101
[01:43] <johnjohn101> thx histo:
[01:43] <histo> KristisB: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell
[01:44] <dbrom_> anyone use handbrake
[01:45] <PoolShark_> yeah I use handbrake
[01:46] <KristisB> histo, so Unity (as a shell) isn't the whole view I see on the screen, just some parts of this?
[01:47] <histo> KristisB: If you read that gnomeshell link it will explain.
[01:47] <KristisB> histo, okay, thank you:)
[01:47] <histo> KristisB: All of this is way ot for this channel.
[01:47] <ctmjr> KristisB: was this not all explained to you in #debian?
[01:47] <PoolShark_> well luckily the ot nazis aren't here to complain
[01:48] <KristisB> ctmjr, no.:)
[01:49] <mtadyshak> Can anyone help setup isc-dhcp-server on 12.04LTS?   I pasted a question here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1641626/
[01:50] <KristisB> ctmjr, they say not even trust gnome.org ->> "Gnome is a huge project. dont let their nomenclature overwhelm your concept of computer sceince. thier knowledge is hardly end all"
[01:52] <dr_willis_> trust no one. not even yourself...
[01:53] <nearst> @<@
[01:54] <histo> KristisB: Yeah but the people in #debian are an end all compaired to the projects website?
[01:54] <_rogue_> irc://irc.gnome.org/#gnome-shell
[01:54] <histo> balls
[01:54] <ctmjr> KristisB: All's I said was you asked pretty much the same questions in #debian and received the same answers. And like histo said it is ot
[01:55] <histo> KristisB: Ask different people receive different opinioins. Until you edjucate yourself you will not know the true answer.
[01:55] <cf16> hi
[01:55] <KristisB> ctmjr - not really, histo explained it to me, and gave me the resource.
[01:55] <dr_willis_> hiddly ho
[01:55] <prariedogux> hi all.   is anyone here familiar with wifi headaches?  for example, how installing from live usb wifi works fine, and then soon as you update after the install, ubuntu kindly updates so nothing works anymore ?
[01:56] <cf16> does anyone know what to do with facebook that says "you are using browser which is not supported" via lynx?
[01:56] <Fels> anyone here knwo why when I use import QtWebKit 3.0  then a webview component I get module "QtWebKit" is not installed
[01:56] <JohnKI4RO> When I run FireFox the fan seems to run very frequently.  When I run Chrome or Chromium it barely runs at all?  Is FireFox that much more of a CPU hog?
[01:56] <histo> prariedogux: Most likely an issue with your firmware for your wifi device or a kernel update that broke the module for your device.
[01:56] <prariedogux> its been 48 hrs and im losing my marble
[01:56] <KristisB> histo, thank you for your help.
[01:56] <nearst> cf16, use gui + modern browser
[01:56] <histo> cf16: continue anyway or use the mobile facebook site.
[01:56] <histo> cf16: Unless you can change your user agent
[01:57] <Kireji> I'm running 12.04.1 on a server (a 1U in a colo) - and I did a distupgrade using apt.   When I did it, there was no option to install desktop version or a server version.  however, http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/ implies there is a desktop and server version.  How can I tell if I'm running desktop or server, and is it possible to change from desktop to server?
[01:57] <histo> JohnKI4RO: top will show you.
[01:57] <cf16> canearest: thank you, any other hints?  : p I want it in lynx
[01:57] <JohnKI4RO> histo, Top will show me what a hog FireFox is?
[01:57] <histo> Kireji: dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <histo> Kireji: also uname -a
[01:57] <histo> JohnKI4RO: will show you cpu usage
[01:58] <prariedogux> ok histo.. so then what?  is there a way i can undo the update  and go back to what it was originally?
[01:58] <Kireji> uname reports " 3.2.0-36-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:44:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux "
[01:58] <histo> prariedogux: What type of wifi chipset do you have?
[01:58] <JohnKI4RO> histo, Yes, and system monitor does as well...I guess I'm just looking for confirmation...you know, misery loves company and all that LOL
[01:58] <Kireji> dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop - does not return anything
[01:58] <prariedogux> realtek rtl8188ce
[01:59] <Kireji> does 3.2.0-36-generic mean server or desktop?
[01:59] <histo> Kireji: Then it doesn't ahve the desktop packages installed. If you wanted to install them you could install ubuntu-desktop
[01:59] <prariedogux> i downloaded the driver from the site, ran it on the xp side of things and it works fine.
[01:59] <prariedogux> but ubuntu, ive messed with everything
[01:59] <prariedogux> nothing works
[01:59] <Kireji> don't need them - rather wanting to make sure the optimizations for server are all set up
[02:00] <histo> Kireji: Doesn't mean anything I don't believe they have a server kernel anymore.
[02:00] <Kireji> for example, they used to set deadline for the scheduler
[02:00] <prariedogux> which really is frustrating. it worked fine before updating.. why did update mgr mess with it if it was working fine, and then break it on me?
[02:00] <Kireji> not sure if there were/are other optimizations for server
[02:00] <histo> prariedogux: that driver should just work.  You can hold shift when booting to get a grub menu and boot an older kernel.
[02:01] <prariedogux> yes
[02:01] <histo> Going to watch the speech brb
[02:01] <prariedogux> it did just work
[02:01] <prariedogux> and then after installing
[02:01] <prariedogux> i updated evertying
[02:01] <prariedogux> rebooted
[02:01] <prariedogux> and now it doesnt work
[02:01] <FloodBot1> prariedogux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <JohnKI4RO> Okay, next question, this system is AMD64 but I am running the 32 bit OS...would there be any reason to change to the 64 bit OS?
[02:03] <mickster04> JohnKI4RO: none at all
[02:03] <mickster04> !64
[02:03] <escott> JohnKI4RO, more registers SSE4
[02:03] <nearst> JohnKI4RO, ram available is reason
[02:03] <mickster04> !pae
[02:03] <escott> JohnKI4RO, some security benefits to the larger address space
[02:03] <escott> mickster04, i believe all kernels are PAE now
[02:04] <JohnKI4RO> mickster04, Thanks...that's pretty straight forward LOL
[02:04] <jpmh> why is the limit 3.2 not 4 G since 2^32 is 4 G not 3 G?
[02:04] <escott> jpmh, kernel takes some, (video) hardware takes the rest
[02:05] <JohnKI4RO> escott, Thanks
[02:05] <JohnKI4RO> nearst, Thanks
[02:05] <jpmh> escott: ty - sort of always wondered but being cheap have never had a machine with enough memory for it to matter
[02:06] <cf16> histo: tahnks, mobile site works
[02:06] <escott> jpmh, <3GB addressable is very possible
[02:07] <osmdave> Hi when I type 'info bash' into a terminal it gives me information about the page. I read this is reading an info file. Where is this info file stored on the system I cant seem to find it?
[02:07] <jpmh> escott: absolutely - althiugh I have had to change from ubuntu to lubuntu with unity needing too much ram on some of my machines
[02:07] <prariedogux> is there a way to restore the original live usb modules and configurations for wifi?
[02:07] <escott> osmdave, its a special file format its not one you can just read. info is the correct tool to read it
[02:08] <prariedogux> i think my next  option is to find a hammer and fix it real good once and for all..
[02:09] <escott> osmdave, /usr/share/info
[02:11] <osmdave> escott, thanks but there doesnt seem to be much in there. No bash.info.gz for example
[02:12] <escott> osmdave, so "info bash" at the top it says "File *manpages*" ie its not an info page its a man page
[02:12] <dr_willis_> prariedogux: tried an older kernel yet?
[02:13] <prariedogux> i rebooted it and used the original before the update, and same thing.  on reboot, window pops up and says 'you are now off line'  'not connected'.
[02:14] <prariedogux> and then the wifi manager does not see any networks
[02:15] <osmdave> escott thank you very much thats what I was looking for
[02:15] <prariedogux> actually, it only sees a greyed out 'wired networks' and no wifi options at all..
[02:15] <heywood> what security-related daemons typically add stuff to /etc/hosts.deny ? i managed to get my own IP blocked somehow. uninstalled fail2ban, stopped the sshguard daemon... and still my IP keeps getting added. help please?
[02:20] <nearst> selinux, apparmor?
[02:23] <prariedogux> ok, if i reinstall.. is there a way one can update after the install everything except for the wifi handling?
[02:24] <Cub> is there any way to install kde 3.5 on ubuntu 12.10
[02:24] <rammstein812> HI, I need help installing Ubuntu64 on my PC, when I try to boot the iso from a usb stick I get white writing then it switches to a black screen and nothing happens, anyone got a similar problem?
[02:25] <heywood> ok, found the problem -- i had denyhosts installed and running, in addition to fail2ban and sshguard. is it redundant to have all three? does each one have some functionality that the other two don't?
[02:27] <Cub> hey rammstein812  can your pc boot from usb
[02:28] <skath> How do I get a list of all the packages which provide a dependency? (e.g. mail-transport-agent)
[02:28] <usr13> !nomodeset | rammstein812
[02:29] <rammstein812> Thanks a lot!
[02:31] <hyperkineitc> Hi all. This morning I ran dist-upgrade, and received an error that some packages failed to install. After rebooting, the machine freezes at grub. The keyboard is unresponsive, and the only way to restart the machine is reset or power cycle.
[02:31] <hyperkineitc> I've tried mounting the disk using a live CD and re-running grub-install, but no go.
[02:31] <rammstein812> ubottu, the problem is that I don't get that far in the installation
[02:32] <usr13> skath: apt-cache depends package-name-here
[02:32] <usr13> skath: man apt-cache  #for more info.
[02:33] <hyperkineitc> Why would grub freeze? I thought it's supposed to be an environment with which you can work with a wounded system.
[02:33] <skath> thanks usr13
[02:33] <escott> hyperkineitc, freezes at grub or after grub tries to boot the kernel
[02:33] <nearst> !patience
[02:34] <usr13> hyperkineitc: It depends on how badly wounded the system is.
[02:34] <hyperkineitc> Freezes at grub. It shows the previous kernels, but it's not possible to select anything.
[02:34] <nearst> hyperkineitc, jump into recovery mode ? or nomodeset
[02:34] <escott> hyperkineitc, yeah thats very strange and should be unrelated to apt as apt won't reinstall grub
[02:35] <hyperkineitc> Edits I've made to grub.conf are reflected, and I set the timeout high to give me time to select something.
[02:35] <nearst> edit on /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[02:35] <escott> hyperkineitc, do you happen to know what was in the dist-upgrade
[02:36] <somsip> !pastebin
[02:36] <hyperkineitc> It was supposed to be 11.04 to 11.10
[02:37] <hyperkineitc> Was going to work my way up to 12.x
[02:37] <MeatRocket> Hello i am having trouble installing ubuntu on a dvd, i'm currently on OS X
[02:37] <escott> hyperkineitc, thats not "dist-upgrade" thats "do-release-upgrade"
[02:37] <hyperkineitc> ok
[02:37] <escott> hyperkineitc, was it an "apt-get dist-upgrade" or a "do-release-upgrade"
[02:38] <thatoneging> how do you uninstall Google Chrome from Terminal?
[02:39] <MeatRocket> I'm getting a no mountable file system error
[02:39] <hyperkineitc> So I've booted off a 10.04 live CD, and chrooted to the drive.
[02:40] <dr_willis_> thatoneging: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:40] <hyperkineitc> Is there a way to test what is broken with grub?
[02:40] <nearst> sudo grub-install --recheck <disk>
[02:40] <dr_willis_> hyperkineitc: try that boot-repair tool yet?
[02:41] <MeatRocket> I can't burn the ISO to a disk. I keep getting an error. Won't let me mount it. please help
[02:41] <hyperkineitc> What-choo talkin' about dr_willis_?
[02:41] <hyperkineitc> Which tool?
[02:42] <dr_willis_> MeatRocket: mount? you burn the image to disk. you dont mount it
[02:42] <dr_willis_> !fixgrub
[02:42] <MeatRocket> I am having trouble burning it. I keep getting an error
[02:42] <dr_willis_> like the first link on the fixgrub wiki page
[02:43] <dr_willis_> ive no idea what burning tools exist for osx
[02:43] <MeatRocket> I am using disk utility
[02:43] <hyperkineitc> Adaptec toast is #1 3rd party disk burning for OSX
[02:43] <hyperkineitc> But you can do it with disk utility as well
[02:44] <mrsudoer> I know of the alternatives available to linux for Google Drive, but what do YOU guys use that works best as a Google Drive client/
[02:44] <somsip> mrsudoer: http://tomdignan.com/projects/gdrive-cli/
[02:45] <mrsudoer> somsip, i was looking for something a little more graphical :p like Insync, perhaps
[02:47] <loudaslife> Is it possible to get hardware acceleration without proprietary drivers on an ati card?
[02:47] <craigbass1976> If I'm in xchat and someone messages me, there's just a little blip in Unity and I miss it.  Is there a way to have something flashing in the top bar like with XFCE and GNOME2?
[02:48] <nearst> mrsudoer, then use insync, or try google for it
[02:48] <MeatRocket> Could it be possible that I am not using a correct disk? DVD+R won't work to burn the .iso
[02:48] <mrsudoer> thank you :)
[02:50] <nearst> MeatRocket, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[02:51] <shortstraw8> I have a lab for school that required me to install  java iced tea, now it is saying that iced tea needs my permission to run how do I do that?
[02:51] <coventry> Is this channel logged anywhere?
 I have searched ever inch of the site, nothing helps
[02:52] <escott> shortstraw8, can you give the exact message
[02:52] <hyperkineitc> Hmmm. So I've got the system up by chrooting. I've run apt-get upgrade and it breaks when upgrading mysql, which was the same error I got thismorning.
[02:52] <somsip> coventry: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/13/%23ubuntu.txt
[02:52] <coventry> Thanks
[02:53] <escott> MeatRocket, on the ubuntu.com website there are step by step instructions on how to burn dvds for many different OSes
[02:54] <MeatRocket> escott I've look on the website. I've actually done it before but with DVD RW. This time I have DVD +R and I am getting an error
[02:54] <escott> hyperkineitc, was it an "apt-get dist-upgrade" or a "do-release-upgrade"
[02:55] <shortstraw8> escott,  Im on java.com there is the media window for testing if the plug-in worked, I move the cursor over it and it say  Iced tea need permission to run
[02:56] <escott> shortstraw8, yes. click to run. you should absolutely under no circumstances be running java applets from random websites
[02:57] <shortstraw8> escott,  When I click on it nothing happens
[02:57] <shortstraw8> I installed from software center
[02:58] <escott> shortstraw8, given all the security problems they may have put up additional barriers in front of java applets
[02:58] <hyperkineitc> I think it was dist-upgrade
[02:58] <escott> shortstraw8, i think there is also a different package for the firefox plugin of java from the standard jvm
[02:59] <shortstraw8> escott,  Im running chrome
[02:59] <shortstraw8> escott,  do I need to manually do it in the file system?
[03:01] <shortstraw8> escott,  Just did a update in terminal working now. Thanks
[03:01] <theperfectpunk> hello guys
[03:01] <tad-pole> hello
[03:01] <escott> !info icedtea-7-plugin | shortstraw8
[03:01] <theperfectpunk> I AM trying to compile rts5229 drivers
[03:01] <theperfectpunk> realtek card reader driver
[03:02] <theperfectpunk> i get this error
[03:02] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/kabp6YKU
[03:02] <theperfectpunk> could anyone have a look at it
[03:03] <MeatRocket> finally got it to work, no thanks to you gurus
[03:03] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/kabp6YKU
[03:03] <theperfectpunk> plz help
[03:04] <tad-pole> MeatRocket: Does it look like anyone cares?
[03:04] <theperfectpunk> tad-pole?
[03:04] <tad-pole> Darn i missed him
[03:04] <tad-pole> I dont know how to compile anything   :./ sorry
[03:04] <theperfectpunk> hehe
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> thanks anyway
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> for at least not ignoring it
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> any developers out here?
[03:05] <escott> theperfectpunk, never compile as root
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> it's a drive
[03:05] <theperfectpunk> *driver
[03:06] <theperfectpunk> so i just remove sudo?
[03:06] <tad-pole> I dont think that was a fix, just a comment.
[03:06] <hyperkineitc> theperfectpunk: You have the headers installed, but do you have the kernel source installed?
[03:07] <escott> theperfectpunk, it was a comment never X as root unless you need to be root to do X. compiling is not such an X
[03:07] <hyperkineitc> Kernel source must match the kernel you're using and must match the headers as well.
[03:07] <theperfectpunk> it worked!
[03:07] <theperfectpunk> remove sudo
[03:07] <theperfectpunk> and it worked
[03:08] <tad-pole> rofl
[03:08]  * tad-pole claps for escott
[03:08] <theperfectpunk> oops i forgot to put install
[03:08] <theperfectpunk> just used make
[03:08] <escott> !info checkinstall | theperfectpunk
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> ok i'll check
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> i have run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> to get headers
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> escott cud u plz stay there for 1 min
[03:09] <theperfectpunk> i'll be back
[03:12] <dr_willis_> !headers
[03:13] <vairos> !header
[03:13] <luissk89> !ndiswrapper
[03:13] <vairos> !headers
[03:14] <tad-pole> Living off a sprintPCS 3g signal in a house under giant tree's  SUCKS.
[03:14] <ChrisWere> I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:15] <escott> ChrisWere, you can try to xset -dpms
[03:15] <ChrisWere> escott: I do that but it only works some of the time
[03:15] <ChrisWere> escott: I tried it today, but nothing happened
[03:15] <luissk89> hi! how to enable module ndiswrapper ?  both ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper utils are installed. running lubunto
[03:16] <hyperkineitc> I feel your pain tad-pole. My only internet at home has been Sprint 4G. It's 'good enough', but not great
[03:16] <isaias> i I were to install ubuntu on a tablet. would it be touchscreen? :P
[03:16] <hyperkineitc> Not by default
[03:17] <tad-pole> 3g would be alright without the tree's... I literally get bytes/s :/
[03:17] <hyperkineitc> Bummer!
[03:17] <hyperkineitc> Any idea how far the nearest cell cite is?
[03:17] <ChrisWere> escott: any other ideas?
[03:17] <escott> ChrisWere, not really
[03:18] <tad-pole> I just know the direction   I never bothered to look at the distance.
[03:18] <ChrisWere> Anyone else? I just installed kubuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:18] <theperfectpunk> escott what was the package?
[03:18] <tad-pole> chriswere: Did you search for similar problems with similar os/and computer model?
[03:18] <escott> theperfectpunk, checkinstall
[03:19] <ChrisWere> tad-pole: yes but I got nothing
[03:19] <tad-pole> Just an idea :/
[03:19] <hyperkineitc> tad-pole: You may want to look into making a passive repeater
[03:19] <theperfectpunk> k installed
[03:19] <theperfectpunk> now try to compile?
[03:20] <escott> theperfectpunk, use checkinstall instead of make install (if you can for kernel modules... i dont know what the best procedure is there)
[03:20] <tad-pole> hyperkineitc: We used legit ones in job shacks in the middle of no where and they work great.    I just cant afford them.   and never seen a good tutorial on making one.
[03:20] <tad-pole> Not that I looked much
[03:20] <tad-pole> Wish I had a antenna hookup on my phone :>
[03:21] <hyperkineitc> All you need is a pair of cell antennas connected back to back. One ponted at the cell site, the other beaming into your house.
[03:21] <theperfectpunk> just xecuted checkinstall
[03:21] <ChrisWere> Anyone else have any ideas? I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:21] <nearst> build your own antenna base station
[03:21] <theperfectpunk> how to use it?
[03:21] <hyperkineitc> I would use a beam antenna for the cell side, and a patch antenna for the house side
[03:21] <escott> theperfectpunk, that will create a deb file which you can dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:21] <theperfectpunk> i just ran checkinstall
[03:22] <theperfectpunk> and i get a command line
[03:22] <hyperkineitc> Think of it like having a short length of fiber optic bending the signal to where you need it.
[03:22] <theperfectpunk> what's the syntax?
[03:22] <escott> theperfectpunk, it should prompt you for a package name and version
[03:23] <K3rmit> I'm trying to get a usb wireless card to work - atheros but I get this error when trying to load the driver. http://pastebin.com/XHNE1A83
[03:23] <ChrisWere> anyone?
[03:24] <broknbottle> K3rmit: what version of ubunut?
[03:24] <theperfectpunk> this is what i get
[03:24] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/LD9w8S05
[03:24] <ChrisWere> I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:24] <K3rmit> broknbottle Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-35-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 11 15:27:15 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:24] <escott> theperfectpunk, its waiting for a description of the package
[03:25] <broknbottle> K3rmit: what distro release? that's an older kernel
[03:25] <hyperkineitc> K3rmit: What does your dmesg say?
[03:25] <theperfectpunk> description is ?
[03:25] <theperfectpunk> anything?
[03:25] <theperfectpunk> i wanna write?
[03:26] <theperfectpunk> it's just for reference ?
[03:26] <nearst> http://leonardom.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/install-wireless-usb-adapter-tl-wn721n-driver-on-ubuntu-10-4/
[03:26] <escott> theperfectpunk, its a description
[03:26] <hyperkineitc> I'd just hit enter
[03:26] <Or6itz> Alright, I am new to Ubuntu. Only been on it 3 days and I am hooked. How this OS is not pre installed on all computers surprises me. To steal from Apple, "It Just Works"
[03:27] <theperfectpunk> ok i wrote the description
[03:27] <ChrisWere> Anything that vaguely reference my problem on the forums is at least 3 years out of date? I don't even know why they keep posts on for as long as that
[03:27] <ChrisWere> I just installed kbuntu-desktop and my screen goes black after 5 minutes of inactivity. I've turned off the screen saver and adjusted the power settings but the screen still goes black. Anyone know what to do?
[03:27] <theperfectpunk> and i get 13 iotion
[03:27] <theperfectpunk> options
[03:27] <theperfectpunk> 0-13
[03:28] <escott> theperfectpunk, the most important bits are the package name and version (dependencies are also nice if you want to fill those out)
[03:28] <escott> theperfectpunk, but your dependencies are the kernel itself so its less important
[03:28] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/M3hapLFx
[03:29] <isaias> Ubuntu TV
[03:29] <theperfectpunk> ok so hw do i continute now
[03:29] <isaias> How do I get it? What do I need?
[03:29] <theperfectpunk> it says installation failed
[03:29] <Haematoma> Anyone here have experience successfully writing udev rules?
[03:30] <walterwoj1> I'm trying to install ledgersmb but when I do 'sudo apt-get install ledgersmb' I get 'Unable to locate package ledgersmb'. I think I'm missing a repository but what one and how do I add it?
[03:30] <broknbottle> ChrisWere: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=100264
[03:30] <Haematoma> really confused *scratches head*... all the guide I'm looking at tell me to use vol_id, but it seems to have been replaced by blkid
[03:30] <theperfectpunk> ok
[03:30] <theperfectpunk> escott
[03:30] <tad-pole> hyperkineitc Placing it in the center of a spaghetti strainer seemed to help :P
[03:30] <Haematoma> guides*
[03:30] <theperfectpunk> it gave permission denied so i ran it as root
[03:30] <escott> theperfectpunk, not everything works with checkinstall
[03:31] <hyperkineitc> Whatever works!
[03:31] <escott> theperfectpunk, checkinstall has to be run as root
[03:31] <theperfectpunk> and it says package has been installed
[03:31] <nearst> sudo -i will work too
[03:31] <theperfectpunk> so now it has generated a deb file?
[03:31] <theperfectpunk> or has it gotten installed?
[03:32] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should have a deb file in your folder. i always install that deb file
[03:32] <theperfectpunk> ok i see it
[03:33] <dr_willis_> !fnd ledgersmb
[03:33] <dr_willis_> !find ledgersmb
[03:34] <dr_willis_> !info ledgersmb
[03:35] <paws-> why are my users able to go to other users home dirs in ssh... how can i stop this?
[03:35] <nearst> paws-, either chroot or jail
[03:35] <tad-pole> the R hax u :/
[03:35] <theperfectpunk> escott
[03:35] <theperfectpunk> sudo modprobe rts5229 not working
[03:35] <theperfectpunk> after install
[03:36] <dr_willis_> !permissions | paws-
[03:36] <nearst> theperfectpunk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104129
[03:36] <walterwoj1> dr_willis_: Ok, so the package exists (I figured it did) but why do I get that errors?  Can you help me figure it out?
[03:36] <paws-> what is the default chmod that my home dir should be?
[03:36] <escott> paws-, you want to change the default umask
[03:36] <isaias> anyone here familiar with Ubuntu TV?
[03:37] <jrib> paws-: the default permissions for home let everyone access them (read and execute).  If you don't want that, change it (see ubottu's link)
[03:37] <nearst> !ask | isaias
[03:37] <Myrtti> isaias: it's not published yet, so no.
[03:37] <dr_willis_> walterwoj1: done a sudo apt-get update recently? us the universe repo enabled?
[03:37] <theperfectpunk> i am trying to install card reader driver not wlan driver
[03:38] <isaias> when will it be published? all i find are articles from 2012 stating that it will be released by the end of the year
[03:38] <walterwoj1> dr_willis_: Yes to #1 and I'm not sure about the second.  How do I check?
[03:38] <dr_willis_> !repos
[03:38] <nearst> theperfectpunk, sorry. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2064649
[03:39] <escott> theperfectpunk, i think modutils needs to rescan for modules
[03:39] <theperfectpunk> syntax?
[03:39] <unheeding> does anyone know why my compiz settings keep reverting when i log out and back in?
[03:39] <Myrtti> isaias: you know exactly as much as most, if not all of us, then
[03:39] <theperfectpunk> @nearest will it work for rts5229 too?
[03:40] <dr_willis_> unheeding: chwck that your config files are not owned by root by mistake
[03:42] <walterwoj1> Jsut to make It a bit more fun, this is on a remote machine ( and I haven't disabled any repositories ) so I only have terminal access.
[03:44] <K3rmit> hyperkineitc http://pastebin.com/MYmwp4bN & http://pastebin.com/Axz9jbb0
[03:47] <tad-pole> Whats a good social channel on this network?
[03:48]  * dr_willis_ resists suggesting #foreveralone
[03:51] <tad-pole> Resistance is Futile?
[03:51] <walterwoj1> dr_willis_: I ran 'add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"' to add universe and then 'update' and the 'install ledgersmb' and I still get 'E: Unable to locate package ledgersmb'
[03:51] <tad-pole> ;)
[03:51] <john838> on ubuntu-server, anyone know how to allow the "sudo reboot" to actually restart the computer? also, how to restore tty screens like ctrl+alt+F1?
[03:58] <dr_willis_> walterwoj1:  the universe repo should be listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list  file.
[03:58] <dr_willis_> the partner repo is not the same as the universe repo
[03:59] <dr_willis_> whichis what your command would have added.
[03:59] <dr_willis_> bbl.
[04:02] <walterwoj1> Dang it, universe is enabled in that list, arrrg!
[04:08] <gladi8er> question...i think the earlier versions of ubuntu had a 'devices' or 'places' menu where i could install guest additions this is not avail in the new version, is this option still available?
[04:09] <AlbertoCG> [Question]I just started using Ubuntu as a VM but it shows in a 4:3 resolution.. How do I switch this to 16:9? It doesn't show the option at Display Settings
[04:10] <tad-pole> Alberto: what vm software?
[04:11] <AlbertoCG> VirtualBox tad-pole
[04:12] <jose106> AlbertoCG, did you install the guest additions?
[04:12] <AlbertoCG> jose106, This is my first time using a VM
[04:12] <tad-pole> You can try the scale mode
[04:13] <tad-pole> I think you hit right CTRL and C
[04:13] <jose106> AlbertoCG, go to Devices and install them. See if that works
[04:13] <tad-pole> Or under the "Machine" tab on top
[04:14] <jose106> AlbertoCG, or right Alt + D
[04:15] <AlbertoCG> tad-pole, that works it displays it, but not the way it's suposed to... Not with the right dimensions
[04:15] <AlbertoCG> jose106, I'll try that
[04:15] <jose106> AlbertoCG, you might head out to #vbox too
[04:15] <tad-pole> AlbertoCG Click and drag to resize it
[04:16] <unheeding> so when i launch a program, it starts unmaximized, with the window titlebar underneath the unity panel
[04:16] <unheeding> is there any way to fix this?
[04:16] <AlbertoCG> jose106, TY
[04:16] <jose106> AlbertoCG, np
[04:18] <unheeding> i found it, it was the Place Windows plugin
[04:19] <AlbertoCG> It worked n.n They told me the same @ #VBox
[04:20] <ovejanegra_> how do i access the files on the hdd from a live cd? in the folder explorer it says i have no authorisation and doesnt ask me for password...
[04:20] <gladi8er> [Question] I think the earlier versions of ubuntu had a 'devices' or 'places' menu where i could install guest additions this is not avail in the new version, is this option still available?
[04:22] <devslash> besides ubuntu,lubuntu and kubuntu are there any other ubuntu variants ?
[04:22] <unheeding> gladi8er: what exactly are you tryinng to install?
[04:22] <unheeding> devslash: Xubuntu, with the Xfce desktop environment.  There's also Ubuntu Gnome Remix, with Gnome Shell
[04:22] <gladi8er> vboxadditions
[04:23] <devslash> I'm using ubuntu in a VM but it is so painfully slow
[04:23] <unheeding> devslash: Linux Mint is almost a variant of Ubuntu (it's based on it, but not associated).  they include two main choices:  MATE and Cinnamon
[04:23] <histo> devslash: xubuntu
[04:23] <unheeding> devslash: I found running things in VM super slow until I enabled VM acceleration in my BIOS
[04:23] <unheeding> devslash: it wasn't enabled by default
[04:23] <devslash> you enabled 3d accel?
[04:23] <histo> devslash: You need vm acceleration and 3d accell
[04:24] <histo> devslash: unity is running compiz and relies heavily on modern video cards.
[04:24] <devslash> whats do you mean vm acceleration ?
[04:24] <devslash> I'm using virtualbox
[04:24] <histo> !derivatives | devslash
[04:24] <devslash> id really like to get ubuntu 12.10 to work
[04:25] <gladi8er> im new to this so im not sure. is there a way to find this out easily?
[04:25] <unheeding> well, if you go under settings... System -> acceleration
[04:25] <histo> devslash: Install guest additions?
[04:25] <devslash> yea
[04:25] <unheeding> devslash: mine is an AMD chip, so it says "Enable VT-x/AMD-V"
[04:25] <unheeding> when i selected it, it gave me an error saying it wasn't enabled, so I went into the BIOS and found the switch
[04:25] <devslash> yea i have that setting in virtual box and it is enabled
[04:26] <histo> gladi8er: are you running a virtual guest?
[04:27] <ovejanegra_> how do i access the files of the users from a live cd, please?
[04:28] <gladi8er> i wish i could answer that.  a friend of minegave me instructions on setting up the virtual machine with ubuntu and that is one of his instructions. he mentioned an earlier version of ubuntu but i have the latest
[04:28] <gladi8er> ive set up a firewall thru vmvb and ubuntu
[04:28] <histo> gladi8er:You have to install them through virtualbox.
[04:29] <histo> gladi8er: it will mount an iso on the guest and you can install it there. They maybe in the repos let me look
[04:29] <gladi8er> thanks
[04:31] <rj_> hey guys. i am a complete ubuntu noob -  i almost have it all set up -  i have a few simple questions ...anyone want to be a pal and help a brother out ? :)
[04:31] <dr_willis_> !manual
[04:31] <dr_willis_> whats the specific questions. ;)
[04:31] <histo> gladi8er: ask in #vbox on here.
[04:31] <gladi8er> thanks histo
[04:32] <histo> gladi8er: or in virtualbox if they still have this select devices > Install guest additions
[04:32] <gladi8er> its not there
[04:32] <histo> gladi8er: ask in #vbox then they will know
[04:32] <gladi8er> thanks again
[04:34] <rj_> :) ....have a thumb drive and want to run live ..... when i suspend, after i wake er up it freezes when it trys to have me log in .....i want to have it not do that but the option is blanked out (12.10)
[04:35] <histo> rj_: Shouldn't be happening. Possibly a bug.
[04:35] <rj_> :( ...
[04:36] <dr_willis_> cant say ive ever tried to suspend or hibernate from a live-usb
[04:37] <histo> Well suspend doesn't use any swap so I dont' see it being an issue. Unless there is an IO problem with getting the info to RAM from USB prior to the suspend.
[04:37] <histo> being that USB is so slow.
[04:37] <rj_> i just want to b able to shut er down for the night and have er load back up without reboot ....or i have to take 10 min to reconfigure my network settings
[04:39] <rj_> slow i can deal with  - compared to having nothing
[04:40] <kelvinella> hello
[04:40] <histo> rj_: Well you can't hibernate without swap that is larger than RAM
[04:40] <histo> rj_: Are you trying to hibernate or suspend?
[04:41] <SuperLag> If you have to reinstall... do you guys have any advice on how to do a faster post-install configuration? (your favorite apps, custom configuration, ssh keys... etc.)
[04:42] <rj_> can i install to the usb......i use my 7 in my office (no wireless) micro pc has wireless but the hdd bricked so i want to use the ubuntu for my movies and internet sharing (to the 7)
[04:44] <rj_> i just dont want to keep er on all the time and i dont want to set it up every time i reebot
[04:46] <histo> yes you can install to usb or
[04:46] <histo> !persistant
[04:46] <histo> rj_: ^^
[04:47] <rj_> ;) thanks histo...ill give er a look
[05:14] <vnc786> i want apache(basic+advance) book can some one tell me which is the best book for apache learning from scratch right now i am reading Apache Administrators Handbook
[05:14] <axtran> vnc786: Do you think you'll learn on a book?  I learn best by trial and error personally
[05:17] <vnc786> axtran: i agree with you and i am doing practice also but at same time i also prefer to read.
[05:17] <dr_willis_> I tend to grab whatever books I find in the bargin bins
[05:18] <axtran> vnc786: There are many scenarios where apache is used in many ways, use cases, load... But since its core hasn't changed much, you can really just find the cheapest online like at amazon.com
[05:19] <vnc786> axtran: for example: i came to know that when apache gets request 1st it check virtual host.and so on...this lead to read books..
[05:21] <dr_willis_> see what books get the best rewiews at amazon
[05:21] <RJ_> im back guys ....i have more problems installing to usb which i dont want to get too deep on .....anyone think of a way to - sleep - hibernate - suspend (Live) without having it ask for password on wake up?
[05:23] <vnc786> dr_willis: axtran : thanks will let u know if found some intersting..
[05:25] <axtran> RJ_: You can specify no password challenge, no?
[05:26] <RJ_> sorry total noob here ??????
[05:26] <histo> RJ_: Change the power settings
[05:26] <RJ_> challange?
[05:26] <histo> Gear > system settings > power
[05:27] <RJ_> ill have a look ;)
[05:27] <histo> RJ_: or open gnome-control-center from a terminal
[05:28] <RJ_> 1 min
[05:29] <chaz68> Just when I think I had the ".xsession-errors.old" file in my home directory beaten down I get a huge "lightdm.log" file in my "/var/log/upstart" directory.
[05:29] <Luan> any one explain what is a ssh tunnel ?
[05:30] <chaz68> Anybody have this one after piping .xsession-errors.old to >/dev/null?
[05:30] <RJ_> does G-C-C just open up a new terminal "line" thingy
[05:31] <dr_willis_> a   .old file  world be a log backup. dosent make mech sence to pipe it
[05:31] <Improv> Hey all; after a stock install without hardware-specific X drivers, should glxinfo work (presumably through MesaGL)?
[05:32] <chaz68> "lightdm.log" swelled up to like 60+ GB and then started giving my little Ubuntu box out of hard disk message.
[05:32] <Improv> According to xdpyinfo the GLX extension is enabled, but I get a BadRequest (X_GLXQueryServerString) when I try glxinfo.
[05:33] <RJ_> i am going to revert to the other Live settings that worked for me brb
[05:33] <chaz68> dr_willis:  Here's a better explanation of what I did.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1517991
[05:33] <chaz68> These .xsession-errors files swelling up to gargantuan proportions seems to be pretty common problem out there.
[05:34] <chaz68> Also see here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2054467
[05:34] <chaz68> I probably should have just installed from scratch but here I am getting log files swelling up my disk size every week.
[05:35] <dydzEz2> whats a good pdf viewer for ubuntu
[05:35] <Improv> evince
[05:35] <chaz68> It's like whack a mole...
[05:40] <Guest98103> chmod: cannot access `/home/vikas/.gvfs': Permission denied
[05:41] <Guest98103> how i can fix this
[05:41] <tad-pole> Get permission.
[05:41] <dr_willis_> leave. gvfs alone.  its special
[05:41] <dr_willis_> what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <matthewvz> Guest98103: Use sudo or su and run it as root?
[05:43] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: i configure nagios ,in that it is showing ofr diskspace,permission denied
[05:44] <Guest98103> matthewvz: i done root and chmod +r
[05:44] <Guest98103> both
[05:44] <dr_willis_>   .gvfs us a special virtual filesyste.
[05:44] <dr_willis_> best to not just be slapping chmods on it
[05:44] <matthewvz> ^
[05:44] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: what else to do
[05:45] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: my nagios is shwoing my disk space critical
[05:45] <dr_willis_> tell nagios to ignore gvfs
[05:48] <nearst> :D
[05:48] <histo> :(
[05:49] <dr_willis_> B-)
[05:49] <lasers> >:}~
[05:49] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: i need then how i can view my disk space
[05:49] <nearst> df -h
[05:49] <histo> df
[05:50] <dr_willis_> .gvfs is not the space you are looking for...  i imagine.
[05:51] <dr_willis_> i just rightclick --> Properies.. in the file manager  nirmally..
[05:52] <Guest98103> dr_willis_: let me do
[05:53] <histo> these are not the droids your are looking for...
[05:53] <tech-mike> ...your jedi mind tricks do not work on me
[05:53] <nearst> adb devices
[05:53] <histo> What about adb?
[05:53] <histo> You down with adb
[05:54] <histo> I've never seen this room so slow wow.
[05:54] <areume> glad to see im not the only one who felt the urge to post that quote over that statment
[05:54] <dr_willis_>  topic stick to. you will...
[05:54] <histo> sorry just boredom.
[05:55] <Improv> If I have one of those funky 2-video-card laptops, is there a good way to figure out which one is active right now?
[05:56] <histo> Improv: The intel is unless you tell it to activate the nvidia explicitly
[05:56] <histo> or ati
[05:56] <nearst> Improv, ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[05:56] <Improv> nearst: I have no such thing.
[05:57] <Improv> histo: Interesting. I'm trying to get GLX apps to stop stop segfaulting, and I imagine it might be related to the 2-video-card oddity.
[05:57] <RJ_> well i have a 7 pc and a micro itx (hdd bricked) on my hdtv - all i want to do with my itx is have xbmc on it and have it share internet to my 7pc i have a spare 2gb flash drive but thats it i can run it live but i cant get it to wake up properly . any ideas ....Ubuntu Server? :)
[05:57] <Improv> histo: Maybe removing all the ATI stuff will make things start working?
[05:58] <nearst> Improv, look for hybridgraphic wiki
[05:59] <Improv> nearst: Ok, thanks
[05:59] <dr_willis_> RJ_: why hbernate at all? i leave my xbmc box on all day
[05:59] <nearst> Improv, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide
[06:00] <RJ_> ???? i dont want it to run 24-7 ???? make it last longer???
[06:00] <dr_willis_> sorry to many? ??? marks....
[06:00] <RJ_> things are tight now and i would cry if my itx gave out on me
[06:01] <dr_willis_> hibernate dosent work with all hardware.
[06:02] <kepler> it is also probably more work for the machine to hibernate and come out of it -- if you're using it every day
[06:02] <histo> RJ_: YOu can't hibernate without swap
[06:02] <histo> RJ_: You want to suspend not hibernate
[06:02]  * Improv stares at grub2's intimidating config hierarchy
[06:03] <dr_willis_> intimidating? never noticed...
[06:03] <dr_willis_> ;-)
[06:03] <Improv> dr_willis: I'm used to grub1. Trying to figure out how to add params to the kernel to boot
[06:03] <dr_willis_> Improv:  /etc/default/grub
[06:03] <histo> Improv: edit /etc/default/grub and then sudo update-grub
[06:04] <Improv> Oh. That's much nicer.
[06:04] <nearst> 'e' at grub menu
[06:04] <lasers> RJ_: My XBMC shut down when it's not in use for 15 minutes. (Living room)
[06:04] <dr_willis_> the    quiet splash line.....
[06:04] <Improv> Was looking in /etc/grub.d/ and that was freaky stuff.
[06:04] <histo> RJ_: How are you putting the machine to sleep?
[06:04] <dr_willis_> grub.d is very straight forward.. and rarely needs edited
[06:05] <dr_willis_> just bash scripts
[06:05] <agrestringere_> Just a quick and random question, I have this strange VIM issue.  I have vim-gnome installed on a work computer running Ubuntu and there's this weird screen corruption thing where the fonts get corrupted and I am unable to use VIM.  However, everything works fine when running VIM in Terminal.  Should I switch that out to vim-gtk or vim-athena?
[06:06] <fluvvell> i have removed all non standard sources from /etc/apt/sources.list.d and read many forums, but I still find that do-release-upgrade will not offer a path from 10.04.4 to 12.04 on my laptop
[06:06] <nearst> any vim different between gtk and terminal ?
[06:06] <Cub> hey dr_willis  you know if there is a way to install kde 3.5 on ubuntu 12.10?
[06:06] <dr_willis_> Cub:  the old kde? doubtfull.
[06:06] <fluvvell> who is the go-to guy/girl for do-release-upgrade fix ups?
[06:07] <nearst> fluvvell, check either normal/lts at /etc/update-manager/release-upgrade and do sudo do-release-upgrade -c
[06:07] <Cub> aww i dont liike plasma :\
[06:07] <fluvvell> nearst; yes have checked that already, its set to lts
[06:08] <dr_willis_> kde4 works well for me. for the little ive used it
[06:08] <dr_willis_> cub check out that qt-razer or razor project
[06:09] <Cub> ok i will do that..
[06:09] <fluvvell> nearst, and the ever continuing response is No new release found
[06:09] <Cub> i tried installing trinity desktop and wouldnt work..
[06:10] <dr_willis_> "its dead jim!"
[06:10] <fluvvell> its a pity that do-release-upgrade doesn't have a debug output where you can see more from the script
[06:10] <nearst> fluvvell, http://askubuntu.com/questions/125392/why-is-no-new-release-found-when-upgrading-10-04-to-12-04-lts
[06:11] <magnum> hello
[06:11] <thirumal> gkfmd
[06:12] <thirumal> hello
[06:12] <nearst> !ask
[06:12] <thirumal> hello mynotes
[06:12] <Cub> another question, would it be worth it to install synaptic on ubuntu 12.10 ? If so how would i go about doing this?
[06:12] <Ben64> Cub: search the software center for it
[06:13] <nearst> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:13] <fluvvell> nearst, read that - only thing I havn't tried yet is disk in the drive, will try it now.
[06:14] <Cub> ty
[06:15] <Bon-chan> guys, how can i properly install java in firefox? i have some java when i try about:plugins but im still having problems with some pages
[06:16] <serp_> !patience
[06:16] <dr_willis_> hmm. I just follow the !java factoid wiki page
[06:16] <nearst> Bon-chan, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[06:16] <dr_willis_> but flash is not java.. ;)
[06:17] <dr_willis_> !java
[06:17] <Bon-chan> but how would i know witch one to install?
[06:18] <dr_willis_> flip a coin? use the one in the repos.. the iced tea one perhaps.. unless you lkmnow you need the others
[06:18] <serp_> you need jre
[06:18] <bcbc2> quit
[06:18] <Bon-chan> well, with a java -version i got this:
[06:18] <Bon-chan> java version "1.6.0_24"
[06:18] <Bon-chan> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.5) (6b24-1.11.5-0ubuntu1~12.04.1)
[06:18] <Bon-chan> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
[06:18] <dr_willis_> theres a java-plugin package also i belive
[06:18] <elena-IK> Problem with compiz keybindings: If I bind anything to <anyModifier>+asciicircum, that stops working after reboot. If I unset it and set it again, it works again, until reboot. The fact that the problem is with the circumflex key makes me think of a keyboard layout related problem. I'm using de nodeadkeys. Any ideas?
[06:19] <dr_willis_> elena-IK:  make a new user. see if the issue also affects them perhaps? if it affexts all users.. that would point to a odd system setting quirk/bug.
[06:20] <dr_willis_> if the new user works properly.. that points  to a setting/ownership issue with the problem user
[06:20] <elena-IK> ok
[06:22] <pianojake> hi i have a question regarding mouse capabilities. It was available at one point but not anymore. its when i move my mouse into the top right corner it would bring all the windows into one screen to be able to choose which one to use. what happened to that?
[06:23] <Cub> pianojake, what desktop environment is that and what version of ubuntu?
[06:24] <hpuser4466> LCD dims for a split second and goes normal again. Happens every so often.  Any ideas how to fix?  Dell D600
[06:24] <pianojake> Cub 12.04 lts and the stock, unity i guess
[06:25] <Cub> not sure on unity, i use gnome-shell and it has a hotspot on the upper left corner..
[06:26] <pianojake> it also used to bring the desktop up when i moved it into the top right corner
[06:27] <bazhang> pianojake, gnome-shell does that with the top left
[06:27] <Cub> pianojake,  check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/101310/show-all-running-windows-when-moving-mouse-pointer-to-top-left-corner-hotspot
[06:27] <pianojake> bazhang what other choices of launchers are there?
[06:27] <pianojake> Cub thanks
[06:29] <dr_willis_> the compiz expose function shows all windows in a spread out view i belive
[06:30] <dr_willis_> theres numerous compiz features that are not enabled by default.
[06:30] <dr_willis_> !ccsm
[06:34] <hpuser4466> I'm using kernel boot option "nomodeset" and after a reboot the screen resolution keeps changing.  How do i keep my resolution at 1280x960?
[06:35] <dr_willis_> whats your video chipset?
[06:35] <dr_willis_> and what is the res changeing to?
[06:36] <hpuser4466> dr_willis: radeon RV250 Mobility FireFL 9000
[06:36] <hpuser4466> Dell inspiron D600
[06:36] <dr_willis_> you using the radeon drivers or the fglrx drivers?
[06:37] <hpuser4466> resolution changing to 1400x1050 by default each boot.   lsmod says i'm using radeon driver.
[06:40] <hpuser4466> what's the console command to set resolution. I'll add that to a bootup script.
[06:40] <dr_willis_> so the monitor cant handle that res? or is that the native res for the montor?
[06:41] <dr_willis_> the monitors/display tool is supposed to allow each user to set their own desktop res also. thats saved
[06:41] <hpuser4466> Yes the monitor handles all resolutions fine, except i'm having a problem with the screen blinking/diming every so often. Possibly a hardware fault, but i'm trying to eliminate any possible software causes.
[06:41] <tasslehoff> What is the default greeter-session in lightdm.conf on 12.10. I went from lightdm to gdm, but when I try to go back I get the "low graphics mode" on every boot.
[06:42] <tasslehoff> the system thinks it will only manage low graphics, but it works just fine...
[06:43] <dr_willis_> bbl
[06:43] <nearst> xrandr -q
[06:43] <apk508> I am using Dell Inspiron 1501, so I have to use extra command: nomodeset
[06:51] <Phryq> is there a way to make Ubuntu connect to the internet using both a wireless and wired connection at the same time?
[06:51] <Phryq> For more speed?
[06:55] <vedic> I have my server located at remote place. I would need to take real time backup of data coming to that server as another server at another location would need that. Is it good to use OpenVPN and then do rsync? or rsync itself is good enough. Security is important as it is customer's sensitive data. Also, for regular maintainance is it advice to use OpenVPN compared to ssh?
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> Phryq: let's say your router can do 100mbps through eth, are you really getting so much from your isp that 100mbps is not enough?
[06:56] <cfhowlett> vedic, perhaps ask this query in #ubuntu-server ???
[06:56] <webman_> openvpn provides an encrypted connection, so does ssh, not much difference IMHO
[06:57] <SuperLag> well... the VPN may slow things down a bit
[06:57] <SuperLag> yet another layer to work through
[06:57] <elena-IK> dr_willis: affects all users, but somehow autologin affects the problem. I disabled autologin for testing, the keybinding worked fine for both users. I reenabled autologin for my main user, the keybinding didn't work. I enabled autologin for the second user, the keybinding didn't work. If after autologin I logout and login again, the keybinding works.
[06:58] <PrincessLuna> Hi, I am trying to boot Kubuntu 12.10 in Uefi mode and it shows the grub screen but hangs on a black screen when booting. Same issue with secureboot on or off
[06:58] <PrincessLuna> System is a Lenovo Thinkpad
[06:58] <SuperLag> vedic: it depends on your level of concern. If security is of the utmost concert, do both.
[06:58] <vedic> SuperLag: Data is not large. Its audio files (around 30 audios/minutes coming to server) and each file is just 100KB
[06:59] <SuperLag> vedic: if it's just audio, I'd do SSH.
[06:59] <SuperLag> vedic: use public keys, and lock SSH down. Disable password authentication.
[06:59] <SuperLag> vedic: then you can use cron jobs to automate your backups
[07:00] <vedic> SuperLag: I see. You mean, using public/private keys and rsync in ssh mode?
[07:00] <SuperLag> vedic: yes, sir
[07:00] <vedic> SuperLag: Data needs to be transferred in real time
[07:00] <SuperLag> vedic: in real-time?
[07:01] <SuperLag> vedic: why the need for real-time transfers?
[07:01] <vedic> SuperLag: The moment an audio arrives, it should be sent to another server immediately. Faster the better
[07:01] <SuperLag> vedic: okay... but why?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|PrincessLuna,
[07:02] <SuperLag> vedic: is this for phone calls, where you need MTA-like responsiveness?
[07:02] <SuperLag> vedic: like... are these voicemail messages or something like that?
[07:03] <vedic> SuperLag: Second server does assembling of audio files (100 Kbs are attached in order) and sends it to third party.
[07:03] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Shouldn't I assume Intel 4000 HD should work?
[07:03] <SuperLag> vedic: in that case, you may want to do a hard-coded VPN connection... that'll be done at the router level, more than likely.
[07:04] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: If booting in legacy mode it works
[07:04] <vedic> SuperLag: Why VPN? can't it be done using ssh + rsync?
[07:04] <vedic> as you suggested
[07:04] <SuperLag> vedic: real-time
[07:04] <SuperLag> vedic: transferring files will not be real-time
[07:05] <SuperLag> I mean, even over a VPN, there will be *some* delay
[07:05] <lasers> Very SuperLag
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> why not just stream instead of copying?
[07:06] <vedic> SuperLag: At max 5 sec of waiting is allowed but more will be observed by the third party
[07:06] <SuperLag> 5 seconds is not real-time
[07:06] <vedic> SuperLag: How about drdb?
[07:06] <Zoop> Hello, I am having a problem with stopping MySQL from a Cron job.  I think it might be related to connections that are still connect.  Although running the stop script manually will work.
[07:06] <SuperLag> vedic: your process is going to generate the file, it will be written to the drive, then you have to initate the process of running your rsync, then an SSH session gets opened, file gets copied over, bits are probably checked in the process, session closed... on to the next audio file, lather, rinse, repeat
[07:07] <vedic> SuperLag: Hmm...
[07:07] <SuperLag> vedic: I don't know what drdb is
[07:08] <mgolisch> its a block device replication thing
[07:08] <SuperLag> vedic: if you have a good connection from point A to point B... and the files are 100K max... this very well could be done in <= 5 seconds. However, that is not real-time.
[07:08] <mgolisch> it basicaly allow for a block device to be replicated over a network connection
[07:08] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, assumptions ... well .... try nomodeset to get in.  then do your settings....
[07:09] <SuperLag> vedic: try SSH, see if it works. If it does, cheap solution. :)
[07:09] <SuperLag> vedic: that said... I'd do key-only, and disable password authentication.
[07:10] <SuperLag> vedic: that will keep dictionary attackers out
[07:10] <vedic> SuperLag: yea, that would be good
[07:10] <SuperLag> vedic: there are more than likely a whole bunch of other things you should do to secure those systems... but I'm not a security expert.
[07:12] <vedic> SuperLag: yea, I understand the security will be a concern
[07:13] <sxa> Sup everyone
[07:14] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Tried, same issue
[07:15] <Raviteja> hi
[07:15] <p201> SuperLag, please, tell more about why VPN is better for real-time backup?
[07:16] <Zoop> Interesting.  So the upstart code seems not to wait for the app to die.  from a cron job anyway.
[07:16] <Zoop> commandline it will wait for it.
[07:19] <lost_RD> Hey guys, looking for some basic tech support regarding JVM
[07:19] <Halite> The battery sensor is really accurate.
[07:20] <Halite> Energy when full is 11.3, but Energy (design) is 43.2!
[07:20] <Raviteja> Hi My name is RaviTeja. I have a query..Could anyone please help... I had installed ubuntu 12.04 64-bit desktop edition in a machine. The hardware configuration of the machine is its a HP manufacture with, i5 processor 4 GB RAM and 250-GB Hard-disk. I installed lamp-stack in the machine and configured mysql database. This is for an local office purpose and a survey form is included in the document root of the apache. it will have at
[07:21] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, IDK what it could be.  Assuming you have a good iso (md5um, right?) the inconsistent boot is confusing.  please stay in channel and ask again
[07:22] <Raviteja> Now the question is is there any limit for concurrent connections for the machine? If so, how do i increase the concurrent connections?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> Raviteja, might be a good question for #ubuntu-server ...
[07:22] <Halite> Why can't I hibernate
[07:23] <cfhowlett> !swap|Halite,
[07:23] <lost_RD> Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine.
[07:23] <lost_RD> Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit.
[07:23] <lost_RD> fatal error: A process has ended with a probable error condition: process ended with exit code 1.
[07:23] <sxa> Raviteja,isnt it limited by the channel width? By default i mean
[07:25] <lost_RD> Anybody?
[07:26] <Zoop> lost_RD: You might give us a little information.
[07:26] <cfhowlett> lost_RD, perhaps ask in #java channel ...
[07:26] <Zoop> Looks like the old windows general protection fault. ;)
[07:26] <Raviteja> Hi sxa, Actually our band-width is about 30 mbps..I hope it would be sufficient for accessing. Please correct me if i were wrong..
[07:26] <Zoop> So If I change an upstart .conf file is there something I have to do to have the system start using that?
[07:27] <lost_RD> cfhowlett: I'll try there first and come back if need be
[07:27] <Zoop> lost_RD: What is the program?
[07:27] <lost_RD> Zoop: Just hoping somebody recognises the error
[07:27] <Halite> err
[07:27] <Zoop> lost_RD: It is too generic I don't think anyone will know.
[07:27] <lost_RD> Zoop: It's a wrapper for a server, I don't know how the wrapper executes Java
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Halite, have you enabled swap?  no swap = no hibernate
[07:27] <Zoop> lost_RD: What are you running to get the error?
[07:28] <Zoop> What server?
[07:28] <AlbertoC1196> Hello n.n
[07:28] <Halite> cfhowlett, I don't have a physical disk
[07:28] <lost_RD> Zoop: Non-vanilla Minecraft
[07:28] <cfhowlett> Halite, so it's virtual?
[07:28] <Zoop> Ah.
[07:28] <lost_RD> Zoop: Don't judge!
[07:29] <Halite> cfhowlett, I haven't swapped yet, because I don't know my RAM etc. yet
[07:29] <Zoop> ahha, I'm not it just makes more sense.
[07:29] <Zoop> I had the same problem trying to run older versions.  I could never get it to work right.
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Halite, ...
[07:29] <nearst> greetings
[07:29] <lost_RD> I'll see what #java has to say
[07:29] <tad-pole> and salutations
[07:29] <Zoop> I think there is some other program out there that is suppose to be able to start older versions.  I never got it going though.
[07:29] <PrincessLuna> Hi, I am trying to boot Kubuntu 12.10 in Uefi mode and it shows the grub screen but hangs on a black screen when booting. Same issue with secureboot on or off.
[07:29] <Zoop> Good luck.
[07:29] <cfhowlett> nearst, greetings again
[07:30] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, what hardware are you on?
[07:30] <nearst> cfhowlett, ty
[07:30] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Lenovo Thinkpad s230u
[07:30] <lolmaus> What is the recommended way of uploading files to Amazon Glacier via console?
[07:30] <kepler> lost_RD: try opening terminal and /usr/bin/javaws /path/to/minecraft
[07:31] <Halite> ooh, Minecraft in Ubuntu.
[07:31] <nearst> http://www.wikihow.com/Play-Minecraft-in-Ubuntu
[07:31] <joshlegs> lots of peeps up in here
[07:31] <lost_RD> kepler: Java Web Start splash screen process exiting ..... Splash: X11 connection failed: No such file or directory
[07:32] <kepler> its broke!
[07:32] <lost_RD> kepler: I'm running server 12.04, is it trying to execute a desktop variant of Java?
[07:32] <kepler> no idea. i thought you wanted to play, not be a server
[07:33] <nearst> java -jar minecraft.jar?
[07:33] <Myrtti> lost_RD: there is no separate versions of Java for server and desktop
[07:33] <Halite> kepler, that's just the verion of Ubuntu. I am running Ubuntu 12.10.
[07:33] <Halite> java -jar file
[07:33] <Halite> that works with every .jar file
[07:35] <lost_RD> Halite: That worked. Must be the wrapper failing. Thanks!
[07:35] <lost_RD> and nearst, thanks
[07:35] <nearst> lost_RD, supposely it worked on every jar file
[07:37] <Zoop> lost_RD: you have the right classpath set?
[07:37] <lost_RD> Myrtti: I tried OpenJDK which didn't work so added a repo to install Sun Java. At that point I didn't know what I was downloading.
[07:37] <Zoop> I guess it is a jar so maybe try specifying it with -jar /path/to/file.jar
[07:37] <Zoop> soemthing like that
[07:37] <Zoop> I still never got it to work right.
[07:37] <Zoop> it would always look for the ~/.minecraft/something/.jar file.
[07:38] <lost_RD> Zoop: Erm, possibly not. I've done a little classpath stuff in Windows, making "java" point to the executable
[07:39] <lost_RD> But java -jar worked so that must not be the problem
[07:39] <Zoop> lost_RD: do you have a .minecraft dir?
[07:39] <aguuu> Hello. I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTE on virtualbox. Installed vbox additions, and can share clipboard, etc. But I cannot get the automatic screen resolution resizing from guest to host. Any ideas?
[07:39] <shingi> Hey
[07:39] <shingi> Im neew to linux
[07:39] <lost_RD> Zoop: No, not required for servers
[07:39] <Zoop> ah
[07:39] <shingi> new to ubanta
[07:39] <Zoop> lost_RD: This an older version of the server you are trying to run?
[07:40] <lost_RD> shingi: You may want to try #ubanta then
[07:40] <krypto> hey is there a way to differentiate  minimal VM and Normal? uname -a is showing same kernel info ,is there any other way?
[07:40] <shingi> lost rd, what do you mean? :)
[07:40] <lost_RD> Zoop: Current version of MC, Ubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <shingi> Im trying #ubanta right nwo
[07:40] <shingi> Im on it now, and im likeing it :)
[07:41] <lost_RD> shingi: This is #ubuntu, not #ubanta
[07:41] <aguuu> Hello. I installed ubuntu 12.04 LTE on virtualbox. Installed vbox additions, and can share clipboard, etc. But I cannot get the automatic screen resolution resizing from guest to host. Any ideas?
[07:41] <Zoop> java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui
[07:41] <Zoop> that is the command I use to start my server.
[07:41] <shingi> guys
[07:41] <shingi> how do i create like
[07:41] <flintser> how to minecraft: install java, download minecraft, set +x to minecraft.jar, if you want to open it from desktop just right-click -> open with openjdk, if you want to launch it from terminal, type java -jar /path/to/minecraft.jar
[07:41] <cfhowlett> aguuu, after installing guest additions, logout, login
[07:41] <shingi> a shortcut to open a program
[07:41] <shingi> e.g open firefox = ctr + i
[07:42] <shingi> how do i do that?
[07:42] <flintser> !enter | shingi
[07:43] <shingi> guys, how do i create like a shortcut to open firefox  E.g to open firefox i press ctr + F
[07:44] <shingi>  guys, how do i create like a shortcut to open firefox  E.g to open firefox i press ctr + F
[07:44] <Zoop> wow
[07:44] <flintser> !patience | sshingi
[07:44] <PrincessLuna> cfhowlett: Apparently working after a bios update but only with secure boot off. Should this matter?
[07:45] <flintser> system settings -> keyboard -> shortcuts
[07:45] <flintser> shingi: ^
[07:45] <shingi>  thanks flintser!
[07:45] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, if it works, run with it and good luck.
[07:45] <aguuu> does anybody here use linux as their main OS?
[07:45] <aguuu> it's impossible for me
[07:46] <Zoop> Give up.
[07:46] <Zoop> ;p
[07:46] <shingi> i use linux as main Os, windows sucks
[07:46] <kepler> i do.
[07:46] <cfhowlett> !anybody|aguuu
[07:46]  * cfhowlett lets' see, ubuntu support channel, several thousand onoin
[07:46] <aguuu> ok. Who uses linux as their main os here?
[07:46] <kepler> see channel list >
[07:46] <somsip> !poll | aguuu
[07:46] <Zoop> What does it matter?
[07:46] <broknbottle> who doesn't?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> aguuu, that's not a support question ...
[07:48] <shingi> how to you open website link in termnial? :)
[07:48] <Fuzzles> if i duel boot ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 how do i fix boot when i remove 13.04?
[07:48] <dominic_> aguuu, just ask your real question..i'm pretty sure people around here can answer it
[07:48] <linda666> hi, my laptop keeps hanging while playing a video in browser (youtube, streaming online, etc.). it gets totally frozen and i have to shut it down ugly by pressing power button what possibly could be the cause of this?
[07:48] <webman_> shingi: you can use wget, curl, or lynx or links....
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, much MUCH easier to run your test repos in virtualbox ...
[07:49] <cfhowlett> linda666, try a different browser ...
[07:49] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, how do i get it to run smoothly then?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> linda666, cause: flash?
[07:49] <linda666> happens in chrome, firefox, opera, ...
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Fuzzles, smoothly?  explain more
[07:50] <cfhowlett> linda666, have you got the restricted extras installed?
[07:50] <linda666> cfhowleft, not sure, trying to lookup logs. feels like a kernel panic
[07:50] <Fuzzles> cfhowlett, with good performance
[07:50] <flintser> Fuzzles: for smoother graphics install guest additions and allow more of your graphics card to vm
[07:50] <linda666> proprietary drivers, yes. but mostly was for NIC as i remember
[07:51] <Fuzzles> flintser, ok thanks
[07:52] <cfhowlett> linda666, I suggest sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras     on the chance that you might still need some codecs ...
[07:52] <vedic> Why DSA is limited to 1024 on ubuntu? in FIPS 183-3, it is mentioned that it can go upto 3072
[07:52] <muk> linda666, right click on a flash window and disable hardware acceleration
[07:52] <shinao1> Hi! I tried to enable desktop on a remote 11.10 ubuntuserver machine but that ended badly. now I'm told that the virtual logins dont show when the server is fully booted up and there is no linux admin there. Please is there a way to (1) check that the virtual terminals are up remotely and (2)  totally remove all desktop packages?
[07:53] <shinao1> by up i mean that they can see the login prompt
[07:53] <dydzEz2> does ubuntu gnome remix include classic gnome
[07:54] <cfhowlett> dydzEz2, remix isn't supported here ...
[07:54] <dydzEz2> oh ok
[07:54] <roger_> besides emailing the webhost of a site that is phishing, is there anything else that can be done?
[07:54] <dydzEz2> might as well just get gnome 3 str8 up on regular ubuntu
[07:55] <krypto> is there a way to differentiate  minimal VM and Normal installation? uname -a is showing same kernel info ,is there any other way?
[07:56] <stroodlepup> how do i fix the hotspot in my installation?>
[07:56] <histo> krypto: What do you mean by "normal" install?
[07:57] <histo> krypto: Are you trying to determine if it's installed on a VM or actual hardware?
[07:57] <krypto> histo: with all packages
[07:57] <krypto> no
[07:57] <krypto> i want to install it as vm
[07:58] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, you mean you can't get on wifi?
[07:58] <krypto> we can select minimal vm,minmal os,Normal
[07:58] <helmut_> hi
[07:58] <cfhowlett> helmut_, greetings
[07:58] <stroodlepup> I tried setting up a wifi hotspot,, it worked once, but it does not work anymore
[07:59] <krypto> histo: i choose minimal vm but i am not able to feel any difference even kernel is similar
[07:59] <cfhowlett> !ics|stroodlepup,
[07:59] <stroodlepup> it's to tablet
[08:00] <histo> krypto: What do you mean you chose minimal vm?
[08:01] <krypto> while installing ubuntu from cd i cliked F4 and choose Modes> there we have 4 options,Normal,Install  a Minimal system,Install a Minimal VM
[08:01] <krypto> histo: i chose Install Minimal VM
[08:02] <stroodlepup> i meant 'setting up a hotspot' a la connectify
[08:02] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, you're RUNNING a hotspot from a tablet?  color me impressed?
[08:02] <stroodlepup> no
[08:02] <krypto> histo: i want to verify the difference b/w normal and minimal vm.
[08:02] <histo> krypto: Is this installed on a VM or actual hardware?
[08:02] <linda666> cfhowlet, some stuff has happened on my syslog that doesnt make sence at all...
[08:03] <krypto> hosto: as vm
[08:03] <stroodlepup> from my laptop.... and yes, hotspot apps a re available for android
[08:03] <shinao1> Hi! I tried to enable desktop on a remote 11.10 ubuntuserver machine but that ended badly. now I'm told that the virtual logins dont show when the server is fully booted up and there is no linux admin there. Please is there a way to (1) check that the virtual terminals are up remotely and (2)  totally remove all desktop packages?
[08:03] <histo> krypto: Not familiar with that option
[08:03] <linda666> cfhowlet, here my kernel logs... http://pastebin.com/c60iYDw2 from a standby on 1pm to 3pm wake up and then dead frozen...
[08:03] <roger_> besides emailing the webhost of a site that is phishing, is there anything else that can be done?
[08:04] <krypto> histo: on xen,i want to convert this hvm instance to para virt instance,since 10.04 has no direct support for xen :(
[08:04] <linda666> cfhowlet, i cant understand what are the frequency logs!
[08:04] <krypto> histo: ok :)
[08:04] <stroodlepup>  cfhowlett: i need to connect my laptop to an android tablet using ubuntu's wireless hotspot
[08:04] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, so your mentioning of "tablet" was referring to ???
[08:05] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, anyway, what hotspot admin software are you running?
[08:05] <stroodlepup> ubuntu's default one
[08:05] <stroodlepup> it only worked properly. once
[08:06] <cfhowlett> linda666, love to see them, but for some reason, the great china firewall is blocking pastebin today.  sorry.
[08:07] <linda666> cfhowlet, what else can you open besides pastebin? im getting really sure the error is from NIC actually based on syslogs...
[08:07] <dydzEz2> !grub
[08:07] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, got it.      http://tumutanzi.com/archives/8195
[08:07] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, http://my.oschina.net/banxi/blog/52304
[08:08] <cfhowlett> stroodlepup, and www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvnh8TsFEU
[08:08] <cfhowlett> linda666, this firewall thing is so frustrating and unpredictable ...  half the time imgur and everything else is blocked
[08:09] <linda666> cfhowlett, for some reason, i completely understand! :D
[08:10] <cfhowlett> linda666, ask again in this channel.   Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package dropbox
[08:14] <hillary> how to create a distro
[08:14] <aguuu> why?? I thought installing software on linux was done like this.
[08:15] <iceroot> !info dropbox
[08:15] <iceroot> aguuu: there is no package called "dropbox" in the repos
[08:15] <kepler> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[08:15] <cfhowlett> aguuu, or you could use softwar cente4r
[08:15] <iceroot> aguuu: but yes that is the way to go when there is a package in the repos
[08:15] <aguuu> i don't get it. do i have to install it windows-style?
[08:15] <aguuu> why
[08:15] <cfhowlett> aguuu, repos ...
[08:16] <aguuu> why can't i install it linux-style??
[08:16] <iceroot> aguuu: there is no package called "dropbox" in the repos
[08:16] <cfhowlett> aguuu, because it's not in the repos
[08:16] <iceroot> aguuu: and its not linux-style, its debian/ubuntu style to use apt-get
[08:17] <cfhowlett> aguuu,  in other words, see the line for how to install dropbox and follow the instructions
[08:17] <aguuu> cfhowlett: how is that a good excuse?
[08:17] <iceroot> aguuu: ask dropbox, we are not dropbox and not maintaining it
[08:17] <aguuu> cfhowlett: i'm installing it windows-style now. but what is the point in having no standard way to install software?
[08:17] <cfhowlett> aguuu, not an excuse it's an explanation.  and a server sysop such as yourself is certainly aware that most software has more than one method of installation
[08:17] <yh66g> Does anyone know how to modify yaboot to boot to terminal on ppc ubuntu 12.04.1?
[08:19] <Guest30136> test
[08:19] <cfhowlett> aguuu, for the record, installing .deb packages is a MINIMAL requirement for administering ubuntu sytems ..l
[08:20] <aguuu> cfhowlett: yes. why is there no standard way of installing software on linux?
[08:20] <linda666> cfhowlett, no prob
[08:20] <cfhowlett> aguuu, take it up with dropbox.  read more.  post less
[08:21] <linda666> hi everyone again :D my laptop keeps hanging usually when streaming online in browser, but my logs say something else... here my kernel logs... http://pastebin.com/c60iYDw2 from a standby on 1pm to 3pm wake up and then dead frozen... anyone has any idea for the cause of this?
[08:21] <aguuu> cfhowlett: dropbox is not the exception. there is no point in that.
[08:21] <cfhowlett> aguuu, I suggest you investigate and invest in the LCPI 1 certificate.  ALL such questions will be answered ...
[08:22] <tad-pole> OoO
[08:22] <aguuu> ok
[08:23] <RJ_> sorry guys ,,,storm front knocked the net out......could someone please show me where to find out how to make a script to set up my network automatically (connect to wifi and share net with eth) desktop 12.10 (live mode) please
[08:23] <iceroot> aguuu: could you stop to say "in linux"? 1. linux is just a kernel, 2. the system itself is called GNU/Linux, 3. there are different distros which are managing software-installations on different ways (binary distro, source based distro and so on), 4. not every software is part of the ubuntu-repos
[08:23] <ikonia> RJ_: the network manager tool can o that for you
[08:24] <iceroot> aguuu: and if something is not in the ubuntu-repos there is the way to use a ppa (repo from third party)
[08:24] <iceroot> !ppa | aguuu
[08:24] <aguuu> iceroot: linux is used as a synonym for gnu/linux
[08:24] <iceroot> aguuu: no
[08:24] <iceroot> aguuu: linux is a kernel
[08:24] <RJ_> NMT will google ;)
[08:24] <aguuu> iceroot: as i said, linux is used as a synonym for gnu/linux
[08:25] <iceroot> aguuu: GNU/Linux is a system based on the linux-kernel with a lot of tools from the GNU project
[08:25]  * cfhowlett ... and it begins.
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !linux|aguuu
[08:25] <dzup> linux is not a real OS
[08:25] <kepler> aguuu is just trolling, ignore him
[08:25] <ikonia> RJ_: you are using Ubuntu correct ?
[08:25]  * cfhowlett concurred
[08:25] <RJ_> desktop 12.10 (live)
[08:26] <RJ_> :)
[08:26] <ikonia> RJ_: ok, there is the gnome-network-manager applet in the top right of your screen
[08:26] <ikonia> RJ_: that can manage your networks for you
[08:26] <ikonia> RJ_: if you look at the network section in https://help.ubuntu.com you can see examples/details
[08:26] <aguuu> iceroot: You should search. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux "The media and common usage, however, refers to this family of operating systems simply as Linux, as do many large Linux distributions (e.g. SUSE Linux and Mandriva Linux). "
[08:26] <ikonia> aguuu: do you have an ubuntu question, yes/no
[08:27] <iceroot> aguuu: gnu.org
[08:27] <aguuu> i'm stating facts taken from wikipedia, and you call me a troll? way to mirror yourself on others
[08:27] <ikonia> aguuu: do you have an ubuntu question, yes/no
[08:28] <aguuu> ikonia: true
[08:28] <kepler> aguuu: i called you a troll because you're trolling. pasting wikipedia does not change that
[08:28] <ikonia> aguuu: no, do you have an ubuntu question "YES/NO"
[08:28] <ikonia> kepler: drop it please.
[08:29] <samkan> Hi, Need some help on GPL license?
[08:29] <ikonia> samkan: #fsf would be the place
[08:29] <aguuu> kepler: that is false. discussing is not trolling.
[08:29] <samkan> wanted to know can i use GPL license for commercial purpose?
[08:29] <tad-pole> Nice.
[08:29] <iceroot> samkan: #gnu should also be a good idea
[08:30] <ikonia> samkan: #fsf is the place, or #gnu
[08:30] <iceroot> samkan: yes, but please ask in #gnu
[08:30] <samkan> have read GPL faq, also asked on stackoverflow
[08:30] <cfhowlett> aguuu, wikipedia does not = facts.  If you have an actual ubuntu support question, now would be a great time to ask it ...
[08:30] <ikonia> samkan: you seem to be struggling to read this channel, #fsf or #gnu is the channel to ask in
[08:30] <samkan> ok
[08:30] <RJ_> i would like to create a script to auto setup my network -  Is it possible?
[08:30] <tad-pole> I love IRC.
[08:30] <tad-pole> RJ_ Yes.
[08:30] <ikonia> RJ_: I told you what to do earlier
[08:31] <ikonia> RJ_: is there a reason you are not following/using that advice
[08:31] <tad-pole> ikonia: You know the reason. :)
[08:31] <RJ_> sorry total noob on ubuntu
[08:31] <ikonia> RJ_: that doesn't change anything
[08:31] <ikonia> RJ_: I gave you solid information, and you've waited 60 seconds and asked gain
[08:31] <RJ_> ????
[08:32] <ikonia> RJ_: being new does not explain why I gave you the information and required documentation, you've done nothing with it and just asked again
[08:32] <tad-pole> willis!
[08:32] <dr_willis_> moo!
[08:32] <RJ_> sorry i am no techie and your geek lingo is not easy to comprehend
[08:33] <ikonia> RJ_: what geek lingo
[08:33] <ikonia> RJ_: I have you a document that explains how to do it for new users
[08:33] <ikonia> RJ_: I told you the network config applet is in the top right of your screen
[08:33] <ikonia> RJ_: where is the "geek lingo" in that
[08:33] <RJ_> gnome-network-manager applet
[08:34] <ikonia> RJ_: that is explained in the doucment I gave you and how to use it
[08:34] <ikonia> RJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?
[08:34] <RJ_> i was looking up gnome-network-manager applet......sorry
[08:34] <ikonia> RJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?
[08:35] <RJ_> was but heard someone beeping me
[08:35] <ikonia> RJ_: did you read the document I gave you ?
[08:36] <RJ_> https://help.ubuntu.com?
[08:36] <ikonia> RJ_: yes, the network section
[08:36] <ikonia> RJ_: did you read that ?
[08:36] <RJ_> i have been tryn to lol slow net and pc
[08:36] <ikonia> RJ_: ok - so if you've not read that, why are you asking again ?
[08:37] <ikonia> RJ_: why ask again without reading the page with the information in ?
[08:37] <RJ_> i am trying to be polite and respond when i hear a beep
[08:37] <ikonia> RJ_: no-one spoke to you
[08:38] <ikonia> RJ_: and asking the same question again is not responding, it's just asking the same questin again
[08:38] <ikonia> lets be honest, you just didn't want to read the docs so just asked again in the hope that someone would give you the answer
[08:38] <cfhowlett> RJ_, set your status to "away"
[08:38] <RJ_> ???????
[08:39] <RJ_> noob i am a total noob
[08:39] <cfhowlett> RJ_, no excuse for not reading the supplied resources ...
[08:40] <Gnomex> Hi guys
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Gnomex, greetings
[08:40] <Gnomex> can i ask Something..
[08:40] <cfhowlett> !ask|Gnomex,
[08:40] <RJ_> what resources i am still not finding anything
[08:40] <ikonia> RJ_: where are you looking
[08:41] <Gnomex> Okey.. i got some problem with my Ubuntu 12.04.. when i'm login aroun 10 or minute my lappy stuck.. dunnno why..  can u tell me.. what kind i do with this trouble.. tq
[08:41] <RJ_> i started at https://help.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <ASB_> Hi. Stupid question from someone new to Linux/Ubuntu: If I "sudo apt-get install <package>" a package that is already installed, would that lead to any problems, or would aptitude detect that the package was already installed and just abort installation?
[08:41] <ikonia> RJ_: right, then what did you select
[08:42] <RJ_> 12.10
[08:42] <ikonia> ASB_: it will say "already installed"
[08:42] <fbeaufort> Hello. Does someone know how to tell if a packaged is embedded by default in ubuntu?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> ASB_, It would quit out with "zero installed"
[08:42] <ikonia> RJ_: then what
[08:42] <RJ_> desktop help
[08:42] <ASB_> ikonia, cfhowlett: Ok, thanks a lot!
[08:43] <ikonia> RJ_: then what
[08:43] <Gnomex> hmmm
[08:43] <RJ_> Networking, web, email & chat
[08:44] <cfhowlett> ASB_, no problem
[08:44] <fbeaufort> Hello. Does someone know how to tell if a packaged is embedded by default in ubuntu?
[08:44] <ikonia> RJ_: then what
[08:44] <ikonia> fbeaufort: embedded ?
[08:44] <RJ_> then ?????
[08:44] <ikonia> RJ_: then what did you chose
[08:44] <RJ_> none
[08:44] <ikonia> RJ_: there are 11 options
[08:44] <fbeaufort> +ikonia = installed
[08:44] <fbeaufort> (thanks for answering btw)
[08:44] <ikonia> RJ_: right, so why have you not gone any further
[08:45] <ikonia> fbeaufort: open the package manager, search for the package and see if it is marked as installed
[08:45] <Gnomex> Hi Guys.. I need some help.. My Problem.. when i'm RUn my Ubuntu 12.04 around 20 minute or 30 my lappy stuck... dunno why..
[08:45] <RJ_> my critera dosent match
[08:45] <cfhowlett> fbeaufort, packages.ubuntu.com   is one place to look
[08:45] <fbeaufort> is there a way to do it from the command line?
[08:45] <fbeaufort> I have only ssh access
[08:46] <PrincessLuna> When I have secure boot on, Kubuntu 12.10 x64 hangs at a black screen after the grub prompt on the live usb itself. Any was to fix this?
[08:46] <fbeaufort> packages.ubuntu.com is perfect!
[08:46] <ikonia> RJ_: really, are you setting up a wired network, or a wireless network
[08:46] <fbeaufort> Thanks +cfhowlett!
[08:46] <RJ_> both
[08:46] <Ben64> PrincessLuna: uh.... don't use secure boot?
[08:47] <Gnomex> any one can tell me..? what kind i do..??
[08:47] <ikonia> RJ_: right, so there is wireless network and wired network settings....how can you say your criteria does not mach
[08:47] <ikonia> match
[08:47] <PrincessLuna> Ben64: Windows 8 only works with UEFI on this computer and I need to dual boot
[08:48] <cfhowlett> fbeaufort, try apt-cache policy package name from the command line
[08:48] <fbeaufort> PERFECT
[08:48] <RJ_> because i need to create a script for automation
[08:48] <Ben64> PrincessLuna: idk then
[08:50] <ikonia> RJ_: right, but you need a script for what, wired network....click wired networking
[08:50] <ikonia> RJ_: apply common sense
[08:52] <RJ_> I dont want to re configure my network every time i restart (live)
[08:52] <ikonia> RJ_: I'm sorry, you seem to be not reading the information
[08:52] <dr_willis_> use a persistant save file?
[08:52] <Kneferilis> hello, I made a user with my root account, I found out that the programs I installed as root are available to the user, the programs the user installs are available to the root user?
[08:53] <cfhowlett> Kneferilis, why you root?
[08:53] <RJ_> sorry i dont know what that means
[08:53] <ikonia> RJ_: 1.) dhcp servers will configure every time 2.) persistant settings will need a persistant live setup not a "script" 3.) the gnome-network-manager tool can save settings
[08:53] <ikonia> Kneferilis: there is no root account
[08:53] <ikonia> RJ_: is your network dhcp ?
[08:53] <dr_willis_> Kneferilis: what programs.. installed how?
[08:54] <RJ_> i had to change it to address only ????
[08:54] <ikonia> RJ_: is your network dhcp ?
[08:54] <Kneferilis> dr_willis: programs installed with yum, not by downloading/extracting them
[08:54] <ikonia> Kneferilis: you are not using ubuntu
[08:54] <ikonia> Kneferilis: ubuntu does not use yum
[08:55] <dr_willis_> yum? ubuntu dosent use yum. thats a redhat tool i thought
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !yum|Kneferilis,
[08:55] <RJ_> ???
[08:55] <ikonia> Kneferilis: and you know this, which is why you are asking in #centos also
[08:55] <Kneferilis> ikonia: Well, yes, but I thought the principle would be the same
[08:55] <ikonia> RJ_: does your network give you an IP automatically
[08:55] <ikonia> Kneferilis: no, it's not
[08:55] <ikonia> Kneferilis: this channel supports ubuntu only
[08:55] <RJ_> ????
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Kneferilis, wrong channel.  ask in #centos.  bbye
[08:55] <ikonia> RJ_: it's not a hard question
[08:55] <Kneferilis> ok, sorry about that
[08:56] <ikonia> RJ_: when you login does your network card get an IP address
[08:56] <dr_willis_> Kneferilis: you use the package manager to install aps on the system... not per-user
[08:56] <Kneferilis> ok
[08:56] <Kneferilis> thanks, for the help, I will go to #centos and #linux and continue my questions there
[08:56] <RJ_> maybe if i was a techie i would know i have never used linux ...ubuntu...????? sorry Total noob
[08:57] <ikonia> RJ_: please stop playing the "noob" card
[08:57] <ikonia> RJ_: you obviously know what an IP address is, as you want to use a script to set one
[08:57] <ikonia> RJ_: so it's not a hard question, does your network card get an IP address automatically
[08:57] <RJ_> how do i tell?
[08:58] <ikonia> RJ_: why do you want to configure your network - what's wrong with it
[08:58] <ikonia> RJ_: lets step back to understand the problem
[08:59] <RJ_> 1 min .....,.typing
[09:00] <zetheroo> are the Ubuntu repos down?
[09:00] <zetheroo> or is it just my mirror?
[09:01] <ikonia> zetheroo: just your mirror
[09:05] <RJ_> i have a 7pc and a micro itx connected to my tv ....i used the itx for xbmc.....my 7 dosent have a wifi but the itx does i have a flash drive that i can run ubuntu on but when i try to put ubuntu to sleep it crashes on the login password and the network setup takes about 10 min and i dont want to do it every time i wake er up
[09:06] <RJ_> ...oops reboot
[09:08] <DaemonicApathy> Change the sleep settings.
[09:08] <Osakasa^> RJ_, what if you to system settings -> Brightness and Lock -> lock = OFF
[09:09] <RJ_> it is greyed out
[09:09] <DaemonicApathy> RJ:Osakasa: The important setting is below that: "Require my password..." etc. Uncheck it.
[09:09] <DaemonicApathy> *Osakasa^
[09:10] <savagecroc> hey.. can someone help me out with my grep command.. my regex isin't working
[09:10] <savagecroc> sudo sysctl -a | grep -w '(SHMMAX|SHMMIN|SHMALL|SHMSEG|SHMMNI|SEMMNI|SEMMNS|SEMMSL|SEMMAP|SEMVMX)'
[09:10] <Osakasa^> RJ_, System Settings -> User Accounts -> Automatic Login = on
[09:10] <RJ_> that is grayed out too
[09:11] <histo> ᴚſ‾ Hoʍ ɐɹǝ ʎon dnʇʇıuƃ ıʇ ʇo slǝǝd¿
[09:11] <histo> RJ_: Sorry how are you putting it to sleep?
[09:11] <Osakasa^> RJ_, as DaemonicApathy said, is your "Require my password when waking from suspend" unchecked (Brightness and lock)
[09:12] <histo> !persistent | RJ_
[09:12] <RJ_> suspend........those options are greyed out
[09:13] <DaemonicApathy> RJ_: Why does this sound to me like you're using a LiveUSB on a regular basis?
[09:13] <histo> RJ_: You want a persistent install so your settings are saved on reboot
[09:14] <Anon_linux> Oi pessoal
[09:14] <Anon_linux> Brasil aki
[09:14] <Anon_linux> Alguem é do brasil
[09:14] <dr_willis_> you can do a full install to a big enough usb flash drive
[09:14] <DaemonicApathy> !es|Anon_linux
[09:14] <Anon_linux> Brasil
[09:14] <RJ_> no more hard drives and all i use my itx for is xbmc.......i have my flash drive with yumi on it
[09:15] <Anon_linux> Portugues brasil
[09:15] <Anon_linux> Ola
[09:15] <DaemonicApathy> !pt
[09:15] <Anon_linux> Valew
[09:16] <DaemonicApathy> Forgot Brazil was Portuguese...
[09:18] <RJ_> my flash drive has limited space on it and running live is all i need but i would like to let my itx sleep or power off but it takes like 10 min to manually configure my wifi settings
[09:19] <histo> RJ_: How big of a drive do you have?
[09:19] <RJ_> well its 16 gb but only almost 2 gb free
[09:20] <Guest2000> I need a status update?
[09:20] <Ben64> why does it take 10 minutes to enter a wifi password
[09:20] <dr_willis_> what else do you need the space for. ;-)
[09:20] <DaemonicApathy> Guest2000: You're still online.
[09:20] <carli2> hi
[09:20] <RJ_> i have another 2gb but trying a different install method it said it wanted 8gb
[09:20] <dr_willis_> make a 512 mb save file..
[09:21] <carli2> where is that multitouch support i saw in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vp8_jetKEu8
[09:21] <lundy> how can I didable crash reports in 12.10 ?
[09:22] <dr_willis_> lundy:  askubuntu.com had a giude on disabeling apport  i recall
[09:23] <lundy> ta
[09:23] <RJ_> password takes 5 seconds configuring the rest of the network to work properly takes many steps :)
[09:26] <Ben64> RJ_: maybe you should fix your network then
[09:26] <RJ_> whats wrong with it
[09:26] <dr_willis_> definatly sounds like a broken network to me...
[09:26] <dr_willis_> i get a new wifi device.. takes me perhaps 10 sec.. to enter password.. and dhcp does the rest
[09:26] <Ben64> if it takes more steps to make it "work properly" then something is wrong
[09:27] <dr_willis_> your whold setup sounds... broken
[09:28] <RJ_> well i had to use address only and change the dns server ...it works but why ????
[09:28] <dr_willis_> you have a mini itx pc. booting from a 16gb usb.. thats shomehow doing xbmc. OR running some ubuntu live setup - just to enable network shareing for some other pc?
[09:28] <dr_willis_> i dont see why you are doing half the things you have said you are doing.
[09:31] <amgarching> Hi! What's up with the umask  in ubuntu? A fresh install and I get group write permission for new files like here: -rw-rw-r-- 1 username username    2 Feb 13 10:29 a1
[09:31] <Ben64> amgarching: its a umask, next question
[09:31] <flintser> amgarching: whats up with that? i see nothing
[09:33] <RJ_> its not my network ....i am just using it ....all my problems would vanish if ....i could have a script to go through steps i go through  to "so called" configure my networks. or have ubuntu not have a password on wake up
[09:33] <amgarching> flintser: rw permissions for the group. I alwyas wondered why Ubunut creates a group with a name of the user.
[09:33] <dr_willis_> RJ_:  or if you used a small persistant save file on your live-usb setup to save your settings....
[09:33] <DaemonicApathy> amgarching: To make file sharing easier.
[09:34] <RJ_> sorry i dont know how to do that or what that even means ...sorry
[09:34] <amgarching> but why did the set umask that permissive?
[09:34] <amgarching> *they
[09:34] <dr_willis_> !live
[09:35] <dr_willis_> You can do a live install to usb with a small save file that will save changes to the usb. making it keep settings btween reboots.
[09:35] <RJ_> i cant install it though
[09:35] <kepler> RJ_: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:35] <dr_willis_> most all of the usb-live creater tools can do a persistant save file when you make the usb flash
[09:35] <josvis> Hi folks, any Ubuntu alternative for capturing video&audio from TV-decoder? Can use Pinnacle Studio in Windows (Dual boot) with TV-decoder connected to Pinnacle Dazzle DVC 130 to record video & audio, edit same and burn content to DVD. Want to switch to Ubuntu.
[09:35] <RJ_> i used uui
[09:36] <flintser> RJ_: if you have windows computer at your reach, install LiLi and do ubuntu liveusb with persistent mode so you can save settings to it
[09:36] <dr_willis_> the pendrivelinux site has numerous tools for making live-usb setups
[09:36] <varikonniemi> i have a multimonitor setup and when my computer starts my 2nd (small) monitor initializes immediately, my main screen takes some 2 seconds to change from vga mode to the login graphical mode. This causes the computer to initialize the second monitor as primary
[09:36] <varikonniemi> this causes eg. the wallpaper to be resized to its resolution, also on the primary monitor which is fugly
[09:36] <varikonniemi> how to fix?
[09:37] <flintser> RJ_:or unetbootin for linux machines
[09:37] <varikonniemi> also flash videos on the net maximize fullscreen to the second monitor which is annoying
[09:38] <dr_willis_> ive never seen a multi monitor system decide which monitor is primary based on which one powered up first...
[09:38] <RJ_> i used UUi and put 150 mb of presistents ????? but how do i save my settings?
[09:38] <dr_willis_> varikonniemi:  whats your video chipset?
[09:38] <varikonniemi> i have in nvsettings ticked that the other is primary
[09:38] <varikonniemi> but it still initializes the small monitor first, it even puts the login usernames on there
[09:39] <dr_willis_> varikonniemi:  enable twinview in the nvidia settings tool?  Mine has the login screen on both i recall.
[09:39] <varikonniemi> "make this screen priomary for the x screen"
[09:39] <varikonniemi> and "sync to this display device" both are correctly configured
[09:40] <varikonniemi> no the other shows ubuntu logo, and only names when cursor is moved to that desktop
[09:41] <kepler> swap the cables between the monitors
[09:41] <varikonniemi> the main screen is at port0
[09:41] <dr_willis_> ive noticed some pcs always want to set the vga as the primary by default for the bios and so forth. so it stays that way untill the  nvidia drivers kick in.
[09:41] <varikonniemi> but i could always try..
[09:41] <kepler> you'll find out if that's why, at least
[09:42] <varikonniemi> however the problem is most probably the fact that my main screen is unavailable 2seconds after the display mode changes
[09:42] <kepler> how often does that happen?
[09:42] <varikonniemi> at every mode change
[09:42] <varikonniemi> :
[09:42] <dr_willis_> i would find that doubtfull to be honest...
[09:42] <varikonniemi> D
[09:42] <dr_willis_> you can set the grub menu to be the same mode as your desktop if you wanted to.
[09:43] <varikonniemi> nope
[09:43] <varikonniemi> i can set it be same resolution, but it changes modes anyway
[09:43] <dr_willis_> sounds like your refresh rates are differnt then
[09:43] <varikonniemi> i actually have a custom grub screen with background and 1920*1200/60
[09:44] <varikonniemi> but after that screen it goes to the vga mode, and then to desktop mode
[09:45] <cyb3rjunki3> join/ #irc.abjects.net
[09:47] <landswipe> what is the smallest ubuntu server footprint I can have?
[09:47] <landswipe> i've tried but it seems to be 1GB
[09:47] <landswipe> i was hoping to get it down nice and small
[09:47] <landswipe> 300Mb or so
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !mini|landswipe, start with minimal install, add only the services you need ...
[09:51] <RJ_> ok i am creating the usb now with 100mb presistance ???? .......how do i save the settings ?
[09:52] <dr_willis_> go with 1gb persistance
[09:53] <dr_willis_> And it will get used automatically
[09:53] <RJ_> thats almost whats left on the flash drive ...do it any way?
[09:54] <dr_willis_> What else do you need the space for?
[09:54] <RJ_> idk
[09:55] <dr_willis_> You said it was a 16gb usb..  So what's using the other 12+gb?
[09:56] <landswipe> cfhowlett: yeah I got the 40mb or so file
[09:56] <landswipe> but it downloads a bucket load from the net
[09:56] <RJ_> that 1 has a bunch of tools and a multi boot on it
[09:56] <landswipe> i only add basic server and openssh and the install footprint was 1gb!
[09:58] <dr_willis_> landswipe: and how much was apt cache?
[09:58] <Guest49294> hello , i have an ATI graphic card and intel , when i boot with ubuntu , a black screen appear after loading .. but i can acess with recovery mode after selection reparing package option and continue booting .. any help please
[10:00] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Guest49294,
[10:03] <zetheroo> how do I change the mirror for the Ubuntu repos?
[10:03] <calwig> whats a good firewall? Firestarter?
[10:03] <kepler> calwig: www.pfsense.org
[10:04] <calwig> kepler, for ubuntu though
[10:04] <kepler> oh
[10:04] <calwig> pfsense rocks yep
[10:04] <Ben64> iptables?
[10:04] <somsip> !ufw | calwig
[10:04] <calwig> that works
[10:05] <calwig> thanks guzs
[10:05] <calwig> ys
[10:06] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, software center settings ...
[10:06] <zetheroo>  cfhowlett: no gui here
[10:07] <cfhowlett> !sources|zetheroo,
[10:07] <calwig> somsip, ufw is great, the less gui as possible the better
[10:07] <cfhowlett> !mirrors|zetheroo,
[10:07] <zetheroo>  cfhowlett: nvm ... I'll just edit the sources.list file
[10:08] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, that'll do it ...
[10:09] <zetheroo> ok, I have changed the sources.list file to reflect the use of the US Ubuntu repo mirrors ... but still not getting anything good with apt-get update
[10:09] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, don't understand ... restate the complete issue ...
[10:09] <zetheroo> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease
[10:10] <dr_willis_>      not seen anyone else today with mirror issues
[10:10] <zetheroo> getting that for all the sources
[10:10] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, china mirrors are out of reach for me today for some reason
[10:10] <zetheroo> and I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> from the machine
[10:12] <dr_willis_> is "inrelease"  correct i  that line?
[10:12] <BlackDex> Hello there
[10:12] <BlackDex> My Unity dash keeps getting beheind the windows
[10:12] <cfhowlett> BlackDex, greetings
[10:12] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: dunno ...  I did not put it there
[10:12] <BlackDex> and i know i can do ALT+F2 > unity
[10:12] <BlackDex> but that is just a quick-fix
[10:13] <dr_willis_> check out what a default sources. list looks like
[10:13] <histo> BlackDex: windows key brings up dash
[10:13] <landswipe> dr_willis: what is 'how much was apt-cache' ?
[10:13] <BlackDex> histo: Yes.. beheind the windows, like browser or terminal etc...
[10:14] <BlackDex> it isn't on-top
[10:14] <histo> BlackDex: that's odd what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:14] <BlackDex> z-index is like -1
[10:14] <BlackDex> 12.10
[10:14] <TheGrey_> o/ Can anyone save me with this sound problem? My audio is way tooo low. Everything in my ALSA mixer is set to the highest. My soundcard is HDA intel sb. My audio driver is Realtek ALC892. My asound.rc is: http://pastebin.com/Ed13xVPG ...What can I do to rid this annoying intermittent problem? Is is my sound card? Do I need to add something to modprobe? Thanks
[10:14] <BlackDex> with all updates
[10:14] <histo> BlackDex: How are you getting it to do that?
[10:15] <BlackDex> if i know
[10:15] <BlackDex> i could fix it
[10:16] <histo> BlackDex: unity&disown   int a terminal
[10:16] <histo> BlackDex: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/906231
[10:16] <BlackDex> But just for some reason after a while everything unity is beheind application-windows
[10:16] <BlackDex> ah
[10:16] <histo> BlackDex: did you try unity&disown in a terminal
[10:16] <BlackDex> so no fix yet :(
[10:16] <BlackDex> histo: Yea i know about that
[10:16] <dr_willis_> landswipe:  apt keeps a  cache of everything  i downloads and installs
[10:16] <BlackDex> or just ALT+F2 :_
[10:16] <BlackDex> :)
[10:17] <landswipe> dr_willis: ah i see, how do I work out how much space it is using then?
[10:18] <dr_willis_> its in /var/cache i belive
[10:18] <histo> BlackDex: Looks like a fix was committed
[10:18] <zetheroo> if I change something in the sources.list file do I need to do something else to get the change recognized by apt?
[10:19] <dr_willis_> zetheroo:  apt-get update
[10:19] <landswipe> i just did a fresh install from minimal cd.
[10:19] <BlackDex> just 12 hours ago it seems :)
[10:19] <landswipe> didn't select anything (no basic server, or openssh)
[10:19] <landswipe> 986Mb.
[10:19] <landswipe> is that right?
[10:19] <landswipe> i'm not complaining, that's just what it is i guess
[10:19] <landswipe> i've been working with openwrt and it is tiny
[10:19] <jpds> landswipe: Sounds able right.
[10:20] <histo> landswipe: sudo apt-get clean
[10:20] <landswipe> i can get an image down to like 6mb
[10:20] <landswipe> busybox et al
[10:20] <jpds> landswipe: Only way you're doing to get it smaller is to disable installing recommended packages by default.
[10:20] <landswipe> i see
[10:20] <landswipe> i want to run it on an odroid-y2
[10:20] <landswipe> u2..
[10:20] <histo> landswipe: that's a specific kernel with only modules needed by the routers hardware
[10:20] <dr_willis_> or use a different distro
[10:20] <landswipe> don't have the hardware yet, just looking at how small i can get it
[10:20] <histo> landswipe: You have modules for like every device right now with ubuntu.
[10:21] <nearst> #openwrt
[10:21] <landswipe> i see
[10:21] <landswipe> so very good hardware support out of the box
[10:21] <RJ_> ok guys i have everything configured and working properly ....might i ask kindly .....since i installed a gb of presistance when i go back to "Try ubuntu" it will have all my settings saved :)
[10:21] <histo> landswipe: yes as apposed to only working on routers
[10:21] <landswipe> i see. that's fine :)
[10:21] <landswipe> thanks for the help and clarification!
[10:21] <nearst> RJ_, u can install on vm
[10:22] <dr_willis_> RJ_: change to a custome wallpaper and see....  ut should keep changes
[10:22] <RJ_> no space
[10:22] <histo> landswipe: what's the out put of du /var/cache/apt/
[10:22] <histo> landswipe: what's the out put of du -h /var/cache/apt/
[10:22] <RJ_> well ill give er a reboot and keep my fingers crossed
[10:23] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: I created a whole new sources.list file and did apt-get update but its still coming back at me with :  W: Failed to fetch http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease
[10:23] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: like its just ignoring the new sources.list file
[10:23] <dr_willis_> you told it to use the ch servers?
[10:24] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: yes
[10:24] <dr_willis_> it failed for all servers?
[10:25] <zetheroo> yes
[10:25] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643241/
[10:25] <dr_willis_> try removeing the  ch.  part as a test
[10:25] <histo> landswipe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5980/how-do-i-free-up-disk-space
[10:27] <landswipe> histo: 75Mb
[10:27] <RJ_> humm my screen looks like a jumbled mess??????
[10:27] <jpds> zetheroo: Failing on that is fine, it should ignore it.
[10:29] <histo> landswipe: 75mb what?
[10:31] <silvan> You can get kicked for a too long ping? :/
[10:32] <dr_willis_> a png timeout = a dead client
[10:32] <histo> landswipe: For instance I found 143M of modules for my current running kernel. If you have older kernels installed they are going to take a bunch of space up
[10:32] <mikkel_> i try to change my primary and secondary DNS, when i do this they are simply set as tertiary DNS. What can i do?
[10:33] <RJ_> It worked :) the screen got jumbled up but the try ubuntu came up and after it loaded up (about 3 min) it worked :) thank all of you guys very much ;)
[10:34] <histo> mikkel_: where are you changing it?
[10:34] <marry> Does anyone happen to know what the long during beep may be whilst shutting the system down? I use Ubuntu 12.04 (Mint 13), Motherboard NF7-S. And following question; does anyone know how to get rid of this? Thanks in advance!
[10:34] <mikkel_> i am using the networkmanager gui (i think it's called that)
[10:34] <Ben64> !mint | marry
[10:34] <histo> RJ_: did your wallpaper get saved though?
[10:35] <histo> mikkel_: Are you adding dns servers in there?
[10:35] <RJ_> sorry i wasnt sure how to do it
[10:35] <RJ_> but my eth and wifi got saved :)
[10:35] <mikkel_> yes, i am pretty sure i did correctly as i used a guide
[10:36] <marry> Ubottu: I duel boot, the problem exits in both
[10:36] <histo> mikkel_: which guide?
[10:36] <histo> RJ_: Now try suspending
[10:36] <mikkel_> histo: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using
[10:36]  * cfhowlett ... used to duel boot then became a pacifist ...
[10:37] <RJ_> wont that still aks for a password and freeze me?
[10:38] <histo> mikkel_: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:38] <histo> mikkel_: check what your nameservers are there.
[10:39] <mikkel_> there is only <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:40] <histo> mikkel_: okay double check your settings in network manager make sure they saved.
[10:41] <mikkel_> yes they are still there :s
[10:41] <mikkel_> it is very weird
[10:41] <murlidhar> hello all. i am currently using 12.04 and i want to upgrade to 12.10 . i have already downloaded the desktop iso and mounted it. however i am not able to upgrade it. there is no option asking me to upgrade
[10:41] <histo> what is weird?
[10:41] <histo> mikkel_: what is weird?
[10:41] <mikkel_> that they still are there
[10:41] <histo> mikkel_: disconnect and reconnect or restart networking with sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:41] <BlackDex> histo: I just installed the staging unity packages, hopefully this fixed it :)
[10:42] <MonkeyDust>  !upgrade | murlidhar
[10:42] <cfhowlett> murlidhar, normal.  software sources, enable the iso, sudo apt-get update and go
[10:42] <murlidhar> cfhowlett: hmmm
[10:42] <cfhowlett> murlidhar, or boot the iso and do a clean install
[10:44] <histo> !upgrade | murlidhar
[10:44] <murlidhar> histo: i want to upgrade it using the iso
[10:45] <murlidhar> cfhowlett: i don't want a clean install
[10:45] <Ben64> murlidhar: i don't think you can upgrade like that
[10:45] <zetheroo> dr_willis_: changed to US mirrors and it's still the same :  W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/InRelease
[10:45] <murlidhar> cfhowlett: been ages since i did a clean install
[10:45] <murlidhar> Ben64: i have done that before
[10:46] <zetheroo>  dr_willis_: no issue with the CH mirrors on other machines
[10:46] <mikkel_> histo : thanks, it worked :D
[10:46] <murlidhar> Ben64: it usually detects a new upgrade and asks me to upgrade which however in this release it isn't asking.
[10:46] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys.  Good Bye!!
[10:48] <murlidhar> well tingtong clearly loves ubuntu so he wants do that :)
[10:48] <Ben64> murlidhar: might be able to do it if you boot to the cd
[10:48] <Malsasa_> Hello, whoever has upgrader his KDE to 4.10, how much MB should be downloaded? I have slow connection only. Thanks :D
[10:48] <murlidhar> Ben64: booting the cd will only clean install
[10:48] <Ben64> murlidhar: no...
[10:49] <lukecarrier> why did you kick him?
[10:49] <lukecarrier> he can vent if he wants to, surely?
[10:49] <murlidhar> Ben64: you sure ?
[10:49] <Ben64> murlidhar: check the options on it
[10:49] <murlidhar> hmm
[10:49] <cfhowlett> lukecarrier, no profanity here.  read the rules
[10:49] <k1l_> lukecarrier: dont mind the trolls. carry on with ubuntu support please.
[10:49] <murlidhar> i will now . maybe they have the options
[10:49] <murlidhar> but earlier it wasn't like that before.
[10:50] <lukecarrier> cfhowlett, fair point
[10:50] <Malsasa_> Hello, anybody has upgrader KDE?
[10:50] <Malsasa_> Hello, anybody has upgraded KDE?
[10:50] <dr_willis_> yes Malsasa_
[10:51] <Malsasa_> dr_willis_: yes, how much space MB for download the update from PPA? I have only slow connection...
[10:51] <dr_willis_> no idea
[10:52] <dr_willis_> as much as it took.......
[10:52] <zetheroo> still not able to perform apt-get update successfully ...
[10:52] <Malsasa_> dr_willis_: i need update sizeinfo so i can estimate how long the download...
[10:52] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, what error messages?
[10:52] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: the same as I posted before
[10:53] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643241/
[10:53] <dr_willis_> i have no idea Malsasa_ . run the commands see what size it says
[10:53] <zetheroo> with US or CH mirrors
[10:53] <zetheroo> it's the same
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa_  you have limited bandwith/download speed?
[10:53] <Malsasa_> MonkeyDust: yes yes, i live at Indonesia, small banwidth country...
[10:54] <Malsasa_> dr_willis_: hmmm... thank you...
[10:54] <zetheroo> cfhowlett:I am ssh'ed into the server so we know its on the network .. and I can ping <IP_ADDRESS> so we know it's online ....
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa_  just under 1GB
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> Malsasa_  iso size is just under 1GB
[10:55] <Malsasa_> MonkeyDust: hah, 1 GB? Too big for me...
[10:55] <Malsasa_> MonkeyDust: ISO? No, i just wanna upgrade KDE 4.8 to 4.10...
[10:56] <dr_willis_> the apt commands estimatte the sizes i belive
[10:56] <zetheroo> cfhowlett: I just noticed I cannot ping google.com
[10:56] <zetheroo> ping: unknown host google.com
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  if you can ping an ip address, but no url, it's a dns issue
[10:57] <Guest56757> Can anyone help me get sound workin in Lubuntu, please?  Profiler says my sound is  ICH - SiS SI7012
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:58] <zetheroo> yes
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  there you have it, that's google, so check your dns
[10:58] <zetheroo> DNS on the Ubuntu system?
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  yes
[11:00] <zetheroo> ok, I did not know there were DNS settings required ... I setup this machine the same as I setup all our Debian machines ...
[11:00] <histo> !lubuntu | Buzzby
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  correct, normally it's not required, something must have gone wrong
[11:01] <Buzzby> I know what Lubuntu is.  I installed it.  I just don't have sound and would like help if possible to get sound to work.  Please.
[11:01] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, what is that address?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> and what command would identify the address?
[11:01] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: it was also working fine yesterday, then I configured the network bridge interface and setup the VM's running on KVM ... shutdown and came in this morning to find this happening
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  the ip address is google
[11:02] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: is it possible that setting up the network bridge has soemthing to do with it?
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  yes, guess so
[11:02] <Buzzby> I apologize.  I am goin to the other channel.
[11:02] <Buzzby> Thank you
[11:03] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust thanks.  what command returns the owner of an ip?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> Buzzby, best of luck
[11:03] <Buzzby> Thank you.
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  whois [ip]
[11:04] <Buzzby> After XP I think Microsoft has gone mentally unstable and so I wanna see if I can get used to Linux.
[11:04] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: the resolv.conf file is empty ... is that how it should be? It says "Do not edit this file by hand" ... :P
[11:04] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, arrr!  of course!  who is not enough.  Thanks, man.  I used to know that stuff ...
[11:07] <histo> Buzzby: Why are you using lubuntu?
[11:07] <histo> Buzzby: over ubuntu that is?
[11:07] <nearst> !lubuntu
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  is this useful http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[11:08] <marry> Does anyone happen to know what the long beep could mean during shutting down the system?
[11:09] <histo> marry: pc spkr beep?
[11:09] <marry> histo: yes, comes out of my speakers
[11:09] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: I added 'dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>' to /etc/network/interfaces where the bridge is configured and now its working :D
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  great!
[11:11] <histo> marry: grep pcspkr /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf   does that have any output?
[11:13] <marry> histo: no, should I blacklist it? Is this normal behaviour or is the pc trying to tell me something? Does your speakers beep whilst shutting down? Seems rather strange having to blacklist this? This happens only sometimes, not always.
[11:13] <histo> marry: yes if it's not blacklisted it will beep
[11:14] <histo> marry: what version of ubuntu are you runningn?
[11:14] <marry> Run 12.04, but why does it only happen only on some shutdowns and not on others. It's like it happens if computer has been on for a long time then it does it, but not otherwise. Weird?
[11:15] <histo> marry: lsmod | grep pcspkr   is the module loaded?
[11:15] <marry> one sec Hisnameisrobertp
[11:15] <marry> histo: :)\
[11:15] <histo> ɥnɥ
[11:15] <histo> marry: huh?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> wrong tab
[11:16] <marry> histo: one second, loading module
[11:18] <histo> marry: No you are trying to see if the module is loaded
[11:18] <henry3> hey
[11:19] <histo> marry: lsmod | grep pcspkr will tell you if it's loaded
[11:19] <histo> ɥǝuɹʎ3 ɥǝʎ
[11:19] <marry> histo: module not loaded :/
[11:19] <henry3> i installed ubuntu but accidently partitioned my harddrive is there a easy way to remove windows and all my previous stuff
[11:20] <histo> marry: Okay that's not it then if the module isn't loaded. I have no idea what's beeping.
[11:20] <histo> henry3: do you have the install disk or usb still?
[11:21] <henry3> yes i do