[22:58] <Excell> noiz...did you use recovery mode and try to get X to fix it?
[22:58] <whip> lwizardl: nope, Finland, isnt that close enough ?-)
[22:58] <noiz> excell ? eh noo it is all ok whiot that
[22:58] <noiz> excell i am just trying to get  100 fps in cs
[22:58] <Excell> o.ok
[22:58] <Excell> gaming?
[22:58] <kickMePlz> Hi again BAN Me PLZ it's juste for test Thanks its juste for a last time
[22:59] <Excell> banned^
[22:59] <Excell> lol
[22:59] <sebsebseb> natalie: could be xorg issues.   xorg  runs all the graphical stuff.   xorg  is also a dab annoying to configure etc.   your  issue can probably be fixed, but you will have to wait for someone that knows how to do that,   or  you could look for a soloution on say the http://www.ubuntuforums.org  where most issues have already been solved by someone, some where on there
[22:59] <developit> what is he testing?
[22:59] <LjL> kickMePlz: quit it...
[22:59] <Rohff> banned plz kickMePl
[22:59] <LjL> kickMePlz: i told you, there is #test
[22:59] <sebsebseb> natalie: altough   booting up recovery mode from the boot loader. and reconfiguring  xorg like that, could help
[22:59] <Rohff> i can t to be op
[23:00] <LjL> ok, just as you wish then.
[23:00] <Rohff> plz LJL ban it
[23:00] <lwizardl> whip, well youever build a Linux Cash Register?
[23:00] <developit> is there any way to upgrade from 7.10 within update manager now that it's unsupported?
[23:00] <Excell> lol
[23:00] <Sydero> Does anyone know what window manager Presto uses? (http://lifehacker.com/5175680/presto-loads-a-streamlined-desktop-in-15-seconds) I really like the taskbar..... much better than the ugly gnome one anyways
[23:00] <mr_claus> LjL: it works, thank you again
[23:00] <LjL> mr_claus: nice
[23:00] <whip> lwizardl: nope, but stole a few registers.. :) will that do ?-)
[23:00] <lwizardl> lol
[23:00] <lwizardl> nope
[23:01] <Keal_> what do i put as 'mount point' in darksnow??
[23:02] <cipherZen> Sydero: presto is the desktop i believe
[23:02] <Sydero> yeah I know
[23:02] <Sydero> but I'm not sure what window manager it uses, or did xandros make their own
[23:02] <krel1> i have another problem it seems when i try to send a IM this thing will crash :) also is it possible to remove the enter/leave notification?
[23:02] <meoblast001> how do i fix "Can't connect SCO audio channel: Address already in use" when connecting skype or a similar program to SCO for my bluetooth headset?
[23:02] <cipherZen> i think they might have made their own, not sure thogh
[23:02] <m1dlg> any one know why SOME my USB flash type devices now come up with " CANNOT MOUNT VOLUME. You are not privileged to mount the volume 'XXX'. " I need to mount my Archos Media player and I can't.
[23:03] <cipherZen> reminds me of lxde a bit
[23:03] <noiz> Heyu
[23:03] <noiz> amm
[23:03] <havocologe> does the alpha 9.04 has support for the radeon hd4870 in the installer ?
[23:03] <noiz> I knew it
[23:03] <noiz> ATI's legacy drivers does not support your operating system
[23:04] <noiz> Can somone help me whit that?
[23:04] <Excell> wow
[23:04] <noiz> well?
[23:04] <oCean_> !ati | noiz
[23:05] <m1dlg> Noiz - the first thing the forum asks for is patnce
[23:05] <Excell> nvidia.....rules.
[23:05] <noiz> mldlg already used the forums
[23:05] <noiz> mldlg woo 2 weeks of waiting and nothing :D
[23:06] <m1dlg> Noiz - i sent it before I finnished, I was responding to the 3 messages sent in quick succecion
[23:06] <havocologe> i know how to add the drivers manually, but it is not nice to use a livecd that has no xserver running due to missing drivers :(
[23:07] <noiz> i want my windows back :/
[23:07] <krel1> ubottu : i have used that site and i have all the parts installed i have run the script as well (sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh) however this has not solved the problems i am having, also it would seem this thing "pidgin"  will crash when i try to reply in the private message
[23:07] <noiz> haha owned
[23:07] <Keal_> what do i put as 'mount point' in darksnow??
[23:07] <Excell> Error: Microsoft is now adjar.
[23:07] <Zarlan> chan #ubuntu-de
[23:08] <Shishire> krel1: may I pm you?
[23:08] <teadict> Hey, is there a place in the Gnome configuration editor to choose the order of the window title buttons?
[23:08] <krel1> sure but i will crash if i reply :)
[23:08] <developit> can anyone recommend a good FPS?  You are not privileged to mount the volume 'XXX'. " I need to mount my Archos Media player and I can't.
[23:08] <oCean_> !ot | developit
[23:08] <kenny__>  #tinymce
[23:09] <oCean_> Keal_: Your (disk)devices are accessible through so called mountpoints.
[23:09] <LjL> developit: try asking BestBot in #ubuntu-bots
[23:09] <Excell> I think you have to get permissions?..right?
[23:09] <Keal_> oCean_,  what do i put as 'mount point' in darksnow?
[23:10] <Excell> chown?
[23:10] <m1dlg> I find it's happening to only some devices, it was working and stopped yesterday
[23:10] <oCean_> Keal_: So, when you have a second disk, and that disk has a partition, that it's device name might be something like /dev/sdb1. To actually access that partition, it has to be "mounted" at an existing directory on your filesystem
[23:10] <bernz> Keal_, in unix-like systems (Linux, etc), a mount point is generally just an empty directory in the file system (branching from '/', the root), onto which you can "hang" (mount) other file system trees
[23:10] <oCean_> Keal_: the mountpoint can be anywhere you like. For example "/disk2" or "/home/username/disk2"
[23:10] <Ndshacker> Can anyone tell me how to host a blog on my Computer, it will only be for Local PCs, so im not worried about the security issues
[23:11] <krel1> well something is wrong with this if i reply to a PM it locks up :/
[23:11] <bernz> Keal_, you could, for example, mount a backup drive onto your file system, then copy the contents of '/home' into that mounted system, then unmount and put your backup drive in a safe palce
[23:11] <reagleBRKLN> help! just spent a long time installing a intrepid and can't use latex
[23:11] <oCean_> Keal_: remember, before you actually mount the partition, the mountpoint has to exist. So, do "mkdir /disk2" before you try to mount anything to /disk2
[23:11] <reagleBRKLN> it sounds very much liek this problem, but don't know how to fix it: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/56e48a088bb15a2e/35a78d7640f13c93?#
[23:11] <Keal_> ok oCean_  thanks
[23:12] <Keal_> i will reread the darkice website now
[23:12] <krel1> yes i have that installed
[23:12] <alu> i must be blind, where do i find the 'fingerprint' for the following ppa https://launchpad.net/~maxb/+archive/ppa ?
[23:12] <Keal_> thanks bernz  too
[23:12] <bernz> Keal_, if you plug a USB drive/stick into your PC, you'll probably notice it "appear" on your desktop -- it's being automounted ;-)  (yw)
[23:13] <Keal_> ok bernz bbl
[23:13] <LjL> !info pyblosxom | Ndshacker, here's a possibility
[23:13] <bernz> Keal_, those automounted devices usually get mounted in '/media' -- for example, '/media/disk' is often the first thing you plug in which has storage (like an USB stick, certain MP3 players, etc)
[23:13] <bernz> Keal_, okay, see ya
[23:14] <maxb> alu: "This repository is signed with ...."
[23:14] <krel1> what IRC program is recommended this one is not so good
[23:14] <maxb> linphone or mercurial, ooi?
[23:14] <bernz> krel1, right now, i'm using xchat, but i heard irssi is good (very old-school, though, i think)
[23:15] <Dejavou42> There is a command that I used before to reload usb (such as after using "sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd") Does anyone know what command I am refering to?
[23:15] <mattgyver83> how do i find out the directory of my cdrom drive so i can mount it manually??
[23:15] <bernz> krel1, a "good" IRC client should allow you to do *everything* without a mouse, with reasonable ease
[23:15] <krel1> thank you i will look at xchat one moment
[23:15] <Shishire> mattgyver83: the cdrom device is called /dev/cdrom, and is usually mounted as /media/cdrom
[23:16] <whip> or sr0..
[23:16] <Ndshacker> !pyblosxom
[23:16] <alu> maxb, i'm trying to use the "apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <fingerprint>" method
[23:16] <dejavou42> does anyone know what command I was talking about?
[23:16] <asdfqwer> I'm back, something funky has happened with X; so any time gdm attempts to run it shows me gnome's loading cursor and my gdm's background-color then hangs, it repeats this process another 5 times then displays this message: The display server has been shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds. It is likely that something bad is going on. Waiting for 2 minutes before trying on display :0.
[23:17] <maxb> alu: Click on the link after "This repository is signed with"
[23:17] <oCean_> dejavou42: you mean module "usbhid" ?
[23:17] <maxb> alu: or actually you just need the keyid for that command, so just type the 8 hex digits after 1024R/
[23:17] <aliSalaah> Hello, is this a good channel for general questions if i am trying to pick a distrobution for my companies usage or is there anyother channel you guys would recommend?
[23:17] <bernz> asdfqwer, although not necessary a pleasant experience, looking at the logs might help identify the cause
[23:17] <alu> maxb, ah, sorry 9cc1a69e3dc9db5420fab05ad701e18d0b717ef0 works
[23:18] <asdfqwer> bernz, logs for what?
[23:18] <maxb> alu: linphone or mercurial, ooi?
[23:18] <alu> maxb, mercurial
[23:18] <bernz> asdfqwer, for example, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:18] <maxb> I really should update those packages to 1.2
[23:18] <asdfqwer> k just sec
[23:18] <Krell> I am back with xchat
[23:18] <IdentifyTarget> how can I get my raid0 to mount automatically when my system boots? I've put mount /dev/md0 /media/raid in bashrc and bash_profile, no dice
[23:18] <Shishire> aliSalaah: yes, although since this *is* the ubuntu channel, everyone here will be a bit biased :P
[23:18] <bernz> asdfqwer, the logs for the X system (not sure which parts even, but that one might be an overall one)
[23:18] <maxb> Mind you, we're almost to 1.2.1
[23:18] <Krell> yes i think i like this much better
[23:18] <bernz> Krell, first impressions?
[23:19] <alu> maxb, yes please :)
[23:19] <dejavou42> oCean: no I was simply enabling ehci_hcd
[23:19] <EndProhibition> aliSalaah:  This channel is so fast you may find it difficult to have a long and thoughtful conversation, but it is a pretty good demonstrator of how efficient and kind our community is.  You might also check out ubuntu-offtopic for a slower pace.
[23:19] <bernz> Krell, actually, let's do that in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want... it's too specific a subject
[23:19] <maxb> alu: There are snapshot packages of hg-stable's tip, updated daily too, btw.
[23:19] <IdentifyTarget> anyone? mounting hard drives on login?
[23:19] <Krell> ok i'll go there
[23:20] <alu> maxb, yep, thanks, not really interested in those for now, not for this box anyways
[23:20] <Ubentu> anyone knows why my cron opens a root connection for 40 seconds each minute?
[23:20] <oCean_> dejavou42: you asked to reload usb, a command like modprobe ... ehci_hcd... I meant: modprobe -r usbhid, and then modprobe usbhid will reinitialize usb devices
[23:20] <Ubentu> the crontabs for all users are empty
[23:20] <Shishire> IdentifyTarget: mounting internal drives?
[23:21] <IdentifyTarget> yes. It's a 4 drive raid
[23:21] <oCean_> Ubentu: how'd you know it's cron?
[23:21] <Ubentu> log
[23:21] <dejavou42> oCean: right, but don't you have to reboot before it will refresh?
[23:21] <Ndshacker> How can I host a full featured blog on my local Computer
[23:21] <Ubentu> oCean: says pam_unix(cron:session)
[23:22] <IdentifyTarget> Ndshacker: install apache then install your blog software
[23:22] <oCean_> dejavou42: well unloading and reloading the usbhid module is a way to prevent reboot. If that does not solve whatever you're trying to solve, you may have to reboot :/
[23:23] <Ndshacker> Identity: I dont have blog software
[23:23] <Ndshacker> Hence my questions :s
[23:23] <Ubentu> Nddshacker: sudo apt-get install wordpress
[23:24] <Ndshacker> wordpress mmk
[23:24] <IdentifyTarget> !fstab
[23:24] <mrbull> hello, can someone help me out with a keyboard remap problem? I don't use X (installed just minimal and got what i needed later). I modified /etc/kbd/remap with some additional sed commands but it doesn't seem to be recognizing it.
[23:24] <IdentifyTarget> ha! that is what I needed
[23:24] <Ndshacker> !wordpress
[23:24] <bernz> Ndshacker, you might need to install a "small" web server, and run a web framework (e.g. RubyOnRails, django, etc)
[23:24] <exodus_ms> !lamp
[23:25] <bernz> Ndshacker, or you can write your own CGI stuff by hand, including the web server (super l88t)
[23:25] <dejavou42> oCean: ok, if I have module ehci_hcd blacklisted via /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ehci I won't even be able to enable it with the modprobe command unless I un-blacklist it , right?
[23:25] <mrbull> also if it helps I did reboot to see if it got picked up - and it didn't.
[23:25] <bernz> exodus_ms's suggestion is probably the best, by far
[23:25] <oCean_> dejavou42: correct
[23:25] <exodus_ms> bernz, ty
[23:25] <dejavou42> oCean: thanks, I'll give it a try
[23:25] <exodus_ms> !lamp | Ndshacker
[23:27] <Ndshacker> Hmmm
[23:28] <Ndshacker> Ima try Wordpress
[23:28] <Ndshacker> then see what happens
[23:29] <Ndshacker> Apache is less than 50 mb O.O
[23:29] <_Linuxx_> apache is very small
[23:29] <meowImAKitty> I have a problem with my Laptop not cooperating with my external moitor, could someone please help??
[23:30] <bernz> Ndshacker, you should see webrick or some of the "framework" servers?
[23:30] <Ndshacker> yes
[23:30] <bernz> what *isn't* so small about apache is its "configuration forest"
[23:30] <melik> i plugged in a USB external HDD, whats the command to see it in bash.. i tried "df -h" but cant see it
[23:30] <Ndshacker> Theres like 50 new downloads going :)
[23:30] <exodus_ms> Ndshacker, http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/12/wordpress-installation-on-ubuntu-with-lamp
[23:30] <Ndshacker> mount
[23:30] <Ndshacker> It will show all
[23:31] <meowImAKitty> I have xUbuntu 7.10 installed on my Compaq 2200 Laptop and I'm having problems using the external monitor port... I have tried using fn-f5 to switch but it is not letting me. I did a google search and came up with nothing I could relate to. I read somewhere about editing a conf file but I couldn't find any actual steps to take.
[23:31] <bernz> meowImAKitty, often, laptops have hardware buttons (via special 'Fn' key) that can control/override the external video port -- try messing with that (including holding the keys for certain lengths of time (e.g. 3 seconds))
[23:31] <daryl_> hey everyone, wondering if I can ask for a hand? Trying to install ubuntu on an industrial tablet pc. no keys or mouse. each stock or graphic problem install i try gives me a pulsing blank screen half way through the live cd loading on the progress bar. No way to F_ key out of it to a console. I am oj with linux but I dont know things well enough to know how to pass a vga=normal argument at the boot prompt. Tried but I dont kn
[23:31] <daryl_> ow root target, it errored. elive gave a desktop when i saw vga=normal go by. Can someone tell me what the boot command would be for jaunty alpha 6?
[23:31] <meowImAKitty> I willl try holding it, but I have tried to use the fn button
[23:32] <melik> Ndshacker,
[23:32] <melik> i dont see it
[23:32] <meowImAKitty> Yeah holding the fn-f5 combo does nothing. Any other ideas???
[23:32] <ahmed-araby> hi all can someone check this menu.lst for me to find out what's wrong http://fpaste.org/paste/6538 , near 149
[23:33] <bernz> daryl_, do you mean that the (sort of) "boot menu" from a live CD isn't coming up? or have you already installed a system to the NV storage on the tablet (HD, SSD, or whatever)?
[23:34] <meowImAKitty> LAPTOP PROBLEM: Cannot use external video port, any ideas???
[23:34] <bernz> daryl_, in the latter case, you should install GRUB, and then you can configure it to give you a chance to break in during boot and select stuff; among that stuff is the ability to modify kernel options prior to boot
[23:34] <daryl_> no I am using a usb cdrom to boot disc image from. failsafe 1 in live cd mode gave me a desktop and i noticed that vga setting as the difference. nothing is installed yet.
[23:35] <oCean_> daryl_: See this about boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:35] <daryl_> grub has broken quite often during boot but i have not edited it in years forget where to look
[23:35] <Gentoon1> I FUCK BABIES!
[23:35] <daryl_> thx for the link!
[23:35] <_VIM_> O.o
[23:35] <micah_> hay can blender files made with windows be able to open with a linux version of blender??
[23:35] <bernz> daryl_, oh.. are you trying to figure out how you will be sure that 'vga=normal' is part of the kernel call?
[23:36] <sd32> how do i access the clipboard in ubuntu?
[23:36] <_VIM_> !ops | *points to Gentoon1*
[23:36] <daryl_> yes that is exactly what I am trying. I want to test image on machine before comitting to install
[23:36] <meowImAKitty> I have xUbuntu 7.10 installed on my Compaq 2200 Laptop and I'm having problems using the external monitor port... I have tried using fn-f5 to switch but it is not letting me. I did a google search and came up with nothing I could relate to. I read somewhere about editing a conf file but I couldn't find any actual steps to take. I've tried using the fn-f5 to switch between them, no luck...
[23:36] <daryl_> tried installing but that pulsing screen is something i cant console around
[23:36] <bernz> meowImAKitty, i'm sorry, i can't suggest any other "easy" fix; learning about xorg.conf might be your next step, but that's not trivial (though it's not difficult, it just takes patience)
[23:37] <daryl_> by console i mean ctl+alt+f1 or f2, etc
[23:37] <sprinkmeier> meowImAKitty, google for xrandr
[23:37] <bernz> meowImAKitty, (FWIW, i suggest prefixing your target nick to get the attention of the user, as most good IRC clients hilite that stuff)
[23:37] <Chairos> I've got Intrepid installed, and configured to automatically log in. So far so good. However, the keychain that wireless passwords are stored in is not yet automatically unlocked.
[23:37] <Chairos> so I still have to enter the password when I log in.
[23:37] <Chairos> this computer is for a non-technical user.
[23:37] <daryl_> even happens with ubuntu-mid
[23:38] <Chairos> I would like to have the keychain automatically unlock when the user is automatically logged in.
[23:38] <Chairos> any suggestions?
[23:38] <Chairos> google's not come up with anything... :(
[23:38] <gandhii> i have a bad install of mathematica font stuck in apt-get/synaptic and it keeps putting up an error everytime I use this software.  How do I clear this out of the queue?
[23:38] <locovicen> hello
[23:38] <locovicen> i need help
[23:38] <exodus_ms> !ask | locovicen
[23:38] <whip> !help
[23:38] <lstarnes> gandhii: pastebin the error
[23:38] <bernz> daryl_, well, if you can be sure that you can boot from a USB stick or CDROM or whatever, even after you've installed, you can just mount the file system of the fresh install in your "live" (USB or CD) session, make your edits to the startup config, and then try a boot; if that fails, you can retry until you get it
[23:38] <locovicen> ok
[23:38] <sprinkmeier> Chairos, you can get the wireless to connect at boot-up (rather than logon) by putting the keys in /etc/networking/interfaces. It does not unlock the keychain, but may solve your problem
[23:39] <sd32> !clipboard
[23:39] <Chairos> sprinkmeier: sorry, that's unworkable in this case because I don't know the keys. I'm setting it up at my house, then sending it to a friend to use at hers. thanks, though
[23:39] <bernz> daryl_, by "pulsing screen", do you mean the orange "ping-pong" progress meter, with "ubuntu" above in round letters?
[23:39] <Ndshacker> I installed Lamp and Wordpress, but I cant find them ;(
[23:39] <oCean_> Chairos: that's a tricky one indeed. The user has to unlock keyring of course... hmm..
[23:39] <locovicen> i have a problem whit crossover and outlok 2007, outlook don't work internet
[23:39] <trippsss> what software source do I need to make handbrake available for intrepid?
[23:40] <daryl_> bernz cant get live cd to work yet. install gave same pulsing screen i cant get around. no I mean a terrible looking screen that moves in and out of beige in a 30 second cycle repeating
[23:40] <whip> trippsss: a rehab?
[23:40] <_VIM_> !ppa | trippsss (Try searching for handbrake here)...
[23:40] <Krell> i have learned a few basics thank you for the help
[23:40] <daryl_> showing some static in a funky patterns when I do get an odd key stroke combo right
[23:41] <bernz> daryl_, erm..well... this *is* ubuntu, right? if it's "desktop" version, it should allow you to specify extra options at the "pre-boot" screen (a menu that includes an option to test RAM, test the CD, etc -- can you get that screen?)
[23:41] <_VIM_> trippsss: that's where i got my handbrake, works well on 8.10 :)
[23:41] <Krell> i have a few dvd questions if anyone knows a bit about that
[23:41] <daryl_> yes
[23:41] <micah> how do i get root access  so i can place program files?
[23:41] <sd32> does unbuntu have a clipboard?
[23:41] <Wanderer> blah
[23:41] <_VIM_> !root | micah
[23:41] <whip> !root
[23:42] <sprinkmeier> Chairos, I'm running 8.10. System->Prefs->Encryption and Keyrings shows "Automatically unlocked when user logs in". (I have wireless keys hard-wired but the keyring unlocks, i.e. I don't have to unlock it to use evolution etc.)
[23:42] <whip> soorry.
[23:42] <bernz> daryl_, oh.. beige.. hmm... at that point, text consoles are not working? (CTRL-ALT-F1, etc)
[23:42] <sprinkmeier> Chairos, s/8.10/8.04 upgraded form 7.10/
[23:42] <micah> i no the password
[23:42] <trippsss> _VIM_, I see how it talks about adding repos, but nothing about what repo actually contains the package (or am I missing something)
[23:42] <Chairos> sprinkmeier: aha, i was looking in Administration
[23:42] <Chairos> thanks!
[23:42] <bernz> daryl_, in any case, do you get to the "pre-boot" menu? at that point, are you not able to specify extra options for the kernel?
[23:42] <_VIM_> trippsss:  you shoudn't need the repo, just get the .deb from that site
[23:42] <Ndshacker> why cant I find my Sql installations
[23:42] <moss23> anybody know what graphic driver name should I use for ubuntu on virtualbox ??
[23:42] <moss23> #lspci > VGA compatible controller: Innotek Systemberatung GmbH virtualbox Graphic adapter
[23:42] <moss23> on guest
[23:43] <daryl_> ttried all gui options and they fail. as i said elive got to a desktop and i know with the vga=normal kernel argument, i just dont know how to type out the boot command to do it manually. no I am using an usb apple keyboard to make things worse but I cant ctl+alt+f_ anything. it just pulses
[23:43] <moss23> #lspci > VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Co
[23:43] <moss23> on host
[23:43] <_VIM_> trippsss: hang on let me see if i can grab you a link...
[23:43] <locovicen> what moss23?¿?¿ graphic driver¿?
[23:43] <trippsss> _VIM_, ok - handbrake doesn't result in anything
[23:43] <lstarnes> moss23: the guest should most likely be using vesa
[23:43] <Gnea> !vbox | moss23  (be sure to check the website out for the FAQ)
[23:43] <Krell> bernz, mind if I bug you a little longer? i have a few dvd questions
[23:43] <daryl_> at one point i hit something to change the beige to a king of old mtv static pattern. like max headroom era
[23:44] <gbacon> Google yields many hits for libgdal-1.5.2 in universe for Intrepid. I enabled universe, but I can see only gdal-1.5.0 in the output of aptitude search. What am I doing wrong?
[23:44] <Chairos> sprinkmeier: hrm, I don't have those options, just pgp options, in Encryption and Keyrings
[23:44] <micah> then how do get blender 2.48 in the right place??
[23:44] <daryl_> this is a webdt366 by dtresearch. 8 inch x86 amd geode with 512 of ram. 500mb flash and I hhave a 4 gig card in a slot as extra. thats where grub goes wrong too.
[23:45] <bernz> daryl_, ahh.. okay, let me look that up, i might be able to just tell you
[23:45] <bernz> Krell, oh yes, sorry, i'll check my PM
[23:45] <lstarnes> moss23: how are you trying to install blender 2.48?
[23:45] <lstarnes> moss23: never mind, wrong person
[23:45] <daryl_> www.dtri.com they just discontinued it
[23:45] <lstarnes> micah: how are you trying to install it?
[23:45] <moss23> lstarnes, there is some virtual driver, but I can't figure out it's name, it is definitely not vesa
[23:45] <daryl_> tons of these on ebay for 100$
[23:45] <micah> well i have the files and when i click on blender it runs but the files are not in the right place
[23:46] <sprinkmeier> Chairos, 8.10? my system is 8.04 updated from 7.10 (updated from....) so it's probably a bit of a mash-up. I wonder if auto-logon disables auto-unlock-keyring?
[23:46] <micah> there in my documents
[23:46] <Chairos> yeah,i have 8.10
[23:47] <moss23> lstarnes, it is vboxvideo for windows hosts but for linux hosts, who knows
[23:47] <_VIM_> trippsss:  https://launchpad.net/%7Ehandbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa/+files/handbrake-common_0.9.3+repack1-0ubuntu0~8.10jdong4_all.deb  and this too: https://launchpad.net/%7Ehandbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa/+files/handbrake-gtk_0.9.3+repack1-0ubuntu0~8.10jdong4_i386.deb and for the GUI: https://launchpad.net/%7Ehandbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa/+files/handbrake-gtk_0.9.3+repack1-0ubuntu0~8.10jdong4_i386.deb
[23:47] <lstarnes> micah: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:47] <_VIM_> sorry for that small flood there :/
[23:47] <micah> 8.03 lts
[23:47] <lstarnes> micah: 8.04 you mean
[23:47] <micah> yea my bad
[23:47] <micah> lol
[23:48] <trippsss> _VIM_, cool thanks - literally found the same page on launchpad seconds before you posted :)
[23:48] <_VIM_> LOL! yeah it's on the very bottom when you search for 'handbrake' took me awhile to see that too, anyways glad you got it :)
[23:49] <oCean_> gbacon: searching packages.ubuntu.com (more accurate then google) also gives 1.5.2 to be in universe, package name seems to be 1.5.0 though. See: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgdal&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[23:49] <lstarnes> micah: version 2.45 is currently available in the official universe repository for hardy
[23:49] <gbacon> oCean_: ah, thanks.. the name confused me
[23:50] <yow|x2> anyone getting freezing with jaunty and ext4? just wondering.
[23:50] <_VIM_> !jaunty | yow|x2
[23:50] <micah> ya i want 2.48
[23:50] <useruser> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubuntu
[23:50] <Jon829> i keep downloading ubuntu but i dont have the iso image file
[23:50] <dave-ubuntu> hmm
[23:50] <lstarnes> micah: 2.48 will be available in the official repositories for ubuntu 9.04
[23:51] <dave-ubuntu> sounds like you have windows :)
[23:51] <Jon829> lol yea
[23:51] <dave-ubuntu> Jon829, i believe ubuntu still shps cds
[23:51] <yow|x2> _VIM_  im aware of that, i use alphas a lot, but freezing really shouldnt be happening too much with the 6th alpha my friend
[23:51] <dave-ubuntu> if not a bunch of third parties do for a small fee
[23:52] <LogicFan> Jon829, can you elaborate a bit more?
[23:52] <JW> How do you restore a normal set of console (F1 - F7 - F12)? I have this fitPC with Ubuntu preinstalled and I'm stuck with the X console, I can't switch to anything else.
[23:52] <oCean_> yow|x2: Read the last line of what ubottu told you - this is not the channel
[23:52] <micah> ok
[23:52] <dave-ubuntu> Jon829, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[23:52] <Jon829> i would like to get a disc but dont want to wait
[23:52] <micah> so i cant put the files in the right place?
[23:52] <sprinkmeier> JW,  CNTRL-ALT-F1? or do you mena how do I boot into consolr (rather than graphical) mode?
[23:52] <lstarnes> micah: where did you get 2.48?
[23:52] <yow|x2> alright, i'll ask in there, i thought maybe someone might be using jaunty in here but i guess not, thanks oCean_
[23:52] <dave-ubuntu> use firefox to dowload the iso
[23:53] <micah> there web site
[23:53] <dave-ubuntu> mabe its an IE bug
[23:53] <micah> blender.org
[23:53] <dave-ubuntu> anyway back later
[23:53] <Jon829> think dling it with winrar has anything to do with it?
[23:53] <JW> sprinkmeier: I mean the normal console setup is not there, CTRL+F1 and ALT+CTRL+F1, ad nauseum, does nothing - they've disabled the virtual consoles :-(
[23:53] <Ndshacker> probaby
[23:53] <dave-ubuntu> downloading it with winrar..../
[23:53] <sprinkmeier> Jon829, try the network install CD. It's smaller. I've seen IE choke on large files.
[23:53] <dave-ubuntu> didnt think that was possable
[23:54] <sprinkmeier> JW, pre-installed OS's blow... you either get crapware or 'customisations' like you mentioned :-)
[23:54] <TwoToneSpirit> Jon829:  Try Bit Torrent - it's more organic and usually faster
[23:54] <dave-ubuntu> if you mean extracting the iso with winrar or selecting to open it with winrar it may have cached the file in a temporary directory
[23:54] <JW> sprinkmeier: well I didn't think one could do something this horrible to an install even if they tried!
[23:54] <dave-ubuntu> search for .iso on your computer
[23:54] <JW> sprinkmeier: and I'm kind of stuck with it cause there's no optical drive.
[23:55] <daryl_> yeah thats what I am doing or trying at least
[23:55] <JW> takes forever to log into Gnome just to get a Terminal
[23:55] <Jon829> nothing showed up in the search
[23:56] <daryl_> oCean that link was exactly what I needed. Thank you!
[23:56] <meoblast001> everytime i try to connect a program with my bluetooth headset i get "Can't connect SCO audio channel: Address already in use"
[23:56] <lstarnes> micah: it appears to be self-contained.  If it is, then it doesn't need to be installed to any particular location
[23:57] <micah> ok so is there a way i can get it to show in the applications tab?
[23:58] <lstarnes> micah: go to System > Preferences > Main Menu
[23:58] <lstarnes> micah: you can add a launcher for it there
[23:58] <micah> thank you sorry im a pain in the ass lol
[23:59] <JW> sprinkmeier: to add inslut to injury, when I log in, network manager takes over and uses a different set of network settings then when no one is logged in.
[23:59] <TwoToneSpirit> Micah:  We're here because we want to help.  Don't think of yourself as a burden.  Questions like yours help us fulfill our purpose.


[01:02] <TeamXlink> Wow that was a close one.
[01:03] <TeamXlink> I had an open can of pop on my desk and went to grab it, I knocked it over and it just missed the computer besides my desk.
[01:04]  * TeamXlink goes to put the cases handle/top back on his pc.
[11:34] <brousch> good morning all
[11:34] <rick_h_> party!
[11:39] <brousch> rick_h_: the other day you mentioned being a U-M alumnus? i thought you went to oakland or something
[11:40] <rick_h_> brousch: I went to GMI/Kettering for 2 years for MSE, then took a year off, then went back and got a CS from UM Flint, wife is from UM A2
[11:41] <rick_h_> so I stretch a bit when it comes to OH vs MI since I wasn't no A2 campus
[11:41] <brousch> ah, flint
[11:41] <rick_h_> yea
[12:16] <rick_h_> snap-l: good review of locoocast today: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/404/
[12:17] <brousch> i assume you are trying to get an interview with him
[12:17] <brousch> re: pyramid
[12:18] <brousch> i stumbled across this while wandering in the docs https://docs.pylonsproject.org/podcasts.html
[12:24] <rick_h_> brousch: we got one at PyCon with him
[12:24] <rick_h_> was good stuff
[12:24] <rick_h_> while there we keep chatting about doing a Pyramid podcast together
[12:25] <rick_h_> yea, they did one episode
[12:25] <rick_h_> and we keep talking about trying to do something
[12:25] <brousch> oh, right, i remember that now
[12:25] <brousch> even if you kept it to like 15 minutes, if you did it regularly it could help get out the pyramid word
[12:26] <brousch> i think all the django podcasts died
[12:26] <rick_h_> doing a podcast is hard
[12:26] <rick_h_> especially if you'd rather be coding
[12:26] <brousch> hah
[13:16] <snap-l> rick_h_: That's awesome. :)
[13:22] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea, kind of cool
[13:49] <Wolfger> morning
[13:56] <brousch> :P
[13:57] <Wolfger> same to you Mr.  I forgot it's OLF weekend
[17:28] <Wolfger> just usually the chatter picks up at lunchtime, so was questioning if IRCCloud was offline :-p
[17:33] <brousch> does anyone use that?
[17:36] <Wolfger> It's my only option at work now
[17:36] <brousch> does it work well for you?
[17:36] <brousch> i use it on the chromebook, which is very rare
[17:37] <Wolfger> it works great for me. I love being able to shut the browser down completely, come back, and scroll through the chatter I may have missed.
[17:37] <Wolfger> I am sure I will be subscribing when it leaves beta.
[17:38] <Wolfger> I like some of the little tweaks it does, too
[17:39] <brousch> my biggest issue with it is that i'm used to pidgin where all of my irc, yim, and gtsalk are in one place
[17:39] <Wolfger> like when somebody leaves and comes right back (or vice versa) it shows a "just popped in" or "just nipped out" instead of two messages
[17:40] <Wolfger> Yeah, I can see that... though I never really cared for Pidgin as an IRC client
[17:40] <Wolfger> what I like is being able to go from one computer to another and still have the full chat log.
[17:41] <Wolfger> I can be in a conversation at work, leave, go home, and pick the convo back up
[17:41] <Wolfger> which I guess others do using SSH and screen :-p
[17:42] <brousch> yeah, i just log off. if i'm not logged in, i'm not listening
[17:44] <brousch> have you tried it from mobile?
[17:44] <brousch> if it has a good mobile interface it might be worth it. andchat is slightly annoying
[17:44] <Wolfger> saves me the hassle of walking in in the middle of a conversation wondering what the heck everybody is talking about. :-)
[17:44] <Wolfger> I have not tried it from mobile. I should
[17:45] <brousch> speaking if irccloud. i have 3 invites, anyone want one?
[17:45] <brousch_> shut up, brousch, you have no invites, i have them
[17:47] <Wolfger> I have them too
[17:54] <brousch> hm, https so it's encrypted unlike my regular irc
[17:58] <brousch> Is there a mobile version?Not yet but it's high on the wish list. The web app might load in your mobile browser, but we're not done any specific small screen/minimal resources optimisations yet. (iPad tip: two-finger scrolling works)
[18:00] <Wolfger> if I had an iPad I would totally use IRCCloud on it
[18:01] <brousch_> it is not loading on my droid
[18:04] <Wolfger> another nifty feature is that you can archive private chats as well.
[18:04] <brousch_> yeah, i just used that
[18:04] <brousch_> damn, not loading on opera mobile either
[18:06] <Wolfger> tried Dolphin browser?
[18:06] <Wolfger> (I would, but no cell signal in the building)
[18:06] <brousch_> never heard of it
[18:07] <Wolfger> I use Dolphin on my Captivate.
[18:09] <Wolfger> Huh. Dolphin is no longer available.  How are things out by uoi?
[21:23] <greg-g> starting to get some sort of calmness, yesterday was the in-person meeting for the metadata standard Tech Working Group that I'm coordinating.


[09:21] <raph_ael> about the yesterday's discussion about ubuntu phone future, is there any really open source phone os ?
[09:24] <k1l> you mean on the market right now or as code?
[09:24] <raph_ael> on the market
[09:24] <raph_ael> well usable :)
[09:29] <k1l> when you say "on the market" i guess you mean android or ios (or windows phone). and android is somewhat open source with the AOSP part.
[09:40] <raph_ael> k1l: well any other
[09:40] <raph_ael> ios is closed, and android not totally
[09:52] <k1l> i am not aware of smartphones shipped with other OS (beside some android spin offs by the makers)
[09:52] <raph_ael> there is Jolla, but not so open source
[09:53] <jaywink> raph_ael: well, there is Jolla's Sailfish OS, which is mostly open, some UI parts are closed: https://jolla.com/
[09:53] <raph_ael> indeed :)
[09:53] <jaywink> won't find one on the high street though :)
[09:54] <jaywink> oh sorry just missed you had posted it yourself too
[09:54] <raph_ael> Sony is told to ship some Jolla phones, and fairphone can use it I think, but it's not much common
[09:56] <k1l> there is ubuntu-touch, too :)
[09:56] <k1l> it was shipped and its open source.
[09:56] <Tm_T> Mer? oh, no phones shipped I suppose
[09:57] <k1l> tizen is not shipped, too
[09:57] <Tm_T> yeah
[09:57] <Tm_T> actually there's Tizen TVs at least
[10:08] <k1l> wasnt some TV shipping webOS now?