[20:04] <xeross> I come back and all I get is a lousy mention by a spambot :(
[20:04] <nogo> tgywa: ...
[20:05] <nogo> tgywa: the synaptic is in your menu
[20:05] <tgywa> nogo, I know how to search synaptic on GUI ... but not command line
[20:05] <kubanc> dajhorn, i have internet connection? do i install it with sudo apt-get install wine?
[20:06] <tgywa> nogo, but now I have only command line Ubuntu
[20:06] <Huldabir2> apt-cache search <string>
[20:06] <nogo> tgywa: it's time to adandon old-fasion apt and aptitude
[20:06] <nogo> tgywa: this is not debian
[20:07] <dajhorn> kubanc: yes, you can do it that way.
[20:07] <kubanc> dajhorn, it cannot find package wine
[20:08] <driva> .
[20:08] <gjorgji> how do i make a script that launches chat,irc,chrome,rhytmbox on login?
[20:08] <kermit> i need some certifications fast, whats quick cheap easy that anyone's still heard of?
[20:08] <dajhorn> kubanc: You must enable the "universe" section in the Software Sources panel.
[20:09] <st__> gjorgji, i think session management tools are better since they store windows positions
[20:10] <PyjamaSpank> permissions question: how do i make /folder/dir3 accessible to a user, but not dir1, dir2 and dir4 subfolders list/show up?
[20:10] <gjorgji> session management tools?
[20:10] <nogo> gjorgji: it's like in xfce
[20:11] <nogo> gjorgji: open all applications you want, then save the session
[20:12] <Huldabir> kubanc: "wine" is in the repos
[20:12] <nogo> PyjamaSpank: it sounds like you need a complex acl solution
[20:12] <Huldabir> kubanc: else there is a ppa repos: ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[20:12] <kubanc> it is working now, thanks
[20:13] <vuln> Hi. I just bought a new usb flash drive. However, Ubuntu is not recognizing it when I plug it into my notebook (I'm running Ubuntu 10.04). Does any know have any clue about what's going on or what I can do to fix it?
[20:14] <c3l> vuln: maybe it needs to be formated
[20:14] <brc> Howdy
[20:14] <st__> c3l, they all preformatted
[20:14] <Huldabir> vuln: zty "lsusb" if your key is listed
[20:14] <brc> Would libjavaplugin work on Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits firefox?
[20:14] <JackStoner> vuln: what do u mean not recognized??
[20:14] <Huldabir> or in the disk utility
[20:14] <c3l> st__: oh, didnt know
[20:15] <c3l> sudo fdisk -l
[20:15] <JackStoner> vuln: try sudo fdisk -l
[20:15] <vuln> lsusb doesn't show it Huldabir
[20:15] <tgywa> nogo, Huldabir AbhiJit, thanks ... seems that I manage to get a banch of bench marking tools using ... apt-cache search bench ...thanks
[20:15] <ThonEney> the snapshot didn't work with the caht
[20:15] <ThonEney> otherwise everything else started at boot
[20:15]  * nogo stabs tgywa
[20:15] <tgywa> nogo, Huldabir AbhiJit, u guys are wonderful ... u r becoming of great help for new comers like me ...
[20:15] <vuln> it doesn't show it either JackStoner
[20:16] <st__> how to rename user?
[20:16] <tgywa> nogo, what does stabs mean?
[20:16] <nogo> tgywa: like pokemon
[20:16] <JackStoner> can u paste your fdisk -l  output vuln
[20:16] <vuln> Believe me, it's only my partitions :/
[20:17] <Huldabir> no problem
[20:17] <vuln> My swap, an extended partition, and two primary ones.
[20:17] <tgywa> nogo, sorry if I'm becoming stone head ... but what is pokemon??
[20:17] <st__> tgywa, cartoon/merchandising character
[20:17] <JackStoner> vuln: i think your flashdrive has hardware errors then, you still have warranty?
[20:17] <nogo> tgywa: it's hard to explain...
[20:17] <vuln> JackStoner: well, it worked on Windows :(
[20:18] <JackStoner> vuln: mmhh...what model is it?
[20:18] <vuln> JackStoner: pqi
[20:19] <nogo> pqi is not bad
[20:19] <vuln> pqi i820
[20:19] <sshc> How do I move the close button and the other two from the left to the right side?
[20:19] <vuln> 4gb usb 2.0 compatible.
[20:19] <sshc> They somehow moved to the other side
[20:19] <nogo> pqi's cf card is solid as a rock
[20:19] <sshc> I'm using gnome
[20:19] <lazyPower> sshc, you can either use ubuntu tweak, or you can use the gconf editor
[20:19] <undecim> Will rc.local run before or after daemons are started?
[20:19] <trism> !controls | sshc
[20:20] <vuln> nogo: so?
[20:20] <nogo> vuln: so don't worry about wear-out
[20:21] <vuln> well, it doesn't really matter if my Operating System can't even recognize it :(
[20:21] <nogo> vuln: lol
[20:21] <JackStoner> vuln: according to this page i dont think linux is supported http://www.pqi.com.tw/product2.asp?cate1=200&proid=344
[20:21] <HoNgOuRu> how can I set up my microphone correctly? Im trying to record a screen video while I speak, but it just playsback strange noies...in the sound configuration window, when I speak the mic volume bar shows correctly,...help
[20:21] <nogo> vuln: you have to use dd to clean it up when it's screwed by grub2
[20:22] <nogo> vuln: your flashdrive is not damaged
[20:22] <jcrawford> hey guys is there a good password manager for Ubuntu?
[20:22] <jcrawford> maybe one that can sync between computers?
[20:22] <vuln> JackStoner: nah that sucks :(
[20:22] <JackStoner> jcrawford: keepassx
[20:23] <vuln> Things usually just don't have 'supported by Linux' and it doesn't mean it's not supported.
[20:23] <plovs> jcrawford or lastpass in your browser
[20:23] <JackStoner> vuln: well...by the look of things...it kinda means it doesnt...
[20:23] <vuln> Do you think if I format it in a different filesystem or whatever, Linux can load it nogo JackStoner ?
[20:23] <JackStoner> vuln: you can try
[20:23] <ThonEney> anyone know how can i make konversation autologin before attempting to join channels?
[20:24] <st__> except hilarious engrish desctiption, it's just a flash pen drive
[20:24] <JackStoner> jcrawford: keepassx, keep the database file in dropbox and load it from there
[20:24] <HoNgOuRu> anybody give me a hand please
[20:24] <nogo> vuln: that won't cure the cancer. your problem is a glith partition table
[20:24] <jcrawford> JackStoner, good idea
[20:24] <JackStoner> HoNgOuRu: !help
[20:24] <jcrawford> now i just have to figure out whether to use lastpass or keepassx lol
[20:24] <jcrawford> thanks for the tips
[20:24] <nogo> s/glitvh/corrupted
[20:24] <DragonKeeper> is it possible to install ubuntu server inside desktop ?
[20:24] <JackStoner> jcrawford: yw
[20:24] <st__> jcrawford, choose which is actively developed
[20:24] <JackStoner> !help
[20:25] <HoNgOuRu> JackStoner I need help too
[20:25] <st__> DragonKeeper, "inside"?
[20:25] <vuln> nogo: corrupted? is it!?
[20:25] <JackStoner> !ask | HoNgOuRu
[20:25] <ThonEney> anyone know how can i make konversation autologin before attempting to join channels?
[20:25] <jcrawford> st__, that i believe would be lastpass
[20:25] <jcrawford> since it is a website and looks more professional than keepassx
[20:25] <DragonKeeper> yes like you can install the gnome desktop on server     i was wondering if can install the server core inside desktop
[20:26] <st__> DragonKeeper, of course
[20:26] <luist> how do i create Packages.gz for my custom ubuntu repo? i had a site reference but i cant find it :(
[20:26] <JackStoner> jcrawford: you came to a conclusion based on how the website looked like?? :P
[20:26] <jcrawford> lol JackStoner :)
[20:26] <jcrawford> i said it would appear
[20:26] <nogo> vuln: sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda
[20:26] <HoNgOuRu> how can I test or modify my mic settings?
[20:26] <jcrawford> never said i made a conclusion :)
[20:26] <jcrawford> oh i guess i failed to say appear :)
[20:26] <nogo> vuln: if sda is your drive
[20:26] <JackStoner> HoNgOuRu: i think u need pulseaudio mixer
[20:26] <st__> JackStoner, noone wants a program last commit to it was 3 years ago and which crash if password contains . character, right?
[20:26] <nogo> vuln: not sda1 or something
[20:27] <HoNgOuRu> ...
[20:27] <st__> *to which
[20:27] <jcrawford> st__, nice points
[20:27] <HoNgOuRu> but why?
[20:27] <HoNgOuRu> this works fine for playback
[20:27] <Mjiig> hi, i'm having some trouble with ubuntuone, i selected a folder on my desktop and told it to sync, but it doesn't seem to be doing so :(
[20:27] <JackStoner> st__: speaking from experience i suppose. Personally i never had a problem with keepassx
[20:27] <Mjiig> i'm preety sure my account is set up properly
[20:27] <llutz> ThonEney: enter nickserv password  at the "server" entry of your network-list
[20:28] <DragonKeeper> st_  do you know the command to do it ?
[20:28] <st__> DragonKeeper, try tasksel
[20:28] <JackStoner> st__: last change according to this http://www.keepassx.org/changelog/ was in march this year
[20:29] <st__> JackStoner, it was hyperbole of course
[20:29] <jshriver> greetings
[20:29] <DragonKeeper> st_ cheers
[20:29]  * nogo grabs a beer
[20:29] <st__> utility to rename user, exists?
[20:29] <jshriver> Is there a bug in Ubuntu's Intel video driver? I can only get the system to work in failsafe mode
[20:29] <llutz> usermod st__
[20:29] <JackStoner> st__: i see
[20:29] <jshriver> If so are there any alternative drivers
[20:29] <vuln> damn it. I just tried calling them nogo JackStoner. But there is a recording saying a lot of bs and that anything else I should come to the webiste -.-
[20:29] <tetsu> thanks, erUSUL! I finally got it configured in a way we can use :)
[20:30] <st__> jshriver, there is always vesa
[20:30] <JackStoner> vuln: calling who?? sorry i wasnt paying attention
[20:30] <akaustav> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx. I wanted to know if it is ok to add the maverick repositories in my repository list and start an update.
[20:30] <jshriver> was hoping for at least some hardware support vesa is pretty low
[20:30] <vuln> JackStoner: Pqi Company
[20:30] <JackStoner> st__: usermod
[20:30] <jshriver> st__ how do you revert to using just vesa for Xorg
[20:30] <vuln> JackStoner: so do you suggest me to format it/
[20:30] <akaustav> Will it break anything?
[20:30] <jshriver> at least till I can find a better driver that actually works
[20:31] <llutz> akaustav: most likely
[20:31] <st__> akaustav, it's _never_ ok
[20:31] <JackStoner> vuln: if the warranty is not void by doing so then by all means
[20:31] <dajhorn> akaustav: Try `update-manager -d` unless you have a good reason to do it manually.
[20:31] <akaustav> Ok.
[20:31] <erUSUL> tetsu: congrats
[20:31] <JackStoner> vuln: or you can try google for some answers if someone else finds it not supported
[20:32]  * nogo will keep buying pqi
[20:32] <jhutchins> Is it true that the current ubuntu xchat comes preconfigured to join frenode#debian?
[20:33] <JackStoner> vuln: this link http://www.pqi.com.tw/product2.asp?cate1=19&proid=415 explicitly states that Linux systems are not supported. Sorry
[20:33] <HexLaTor> hi, i heared that the developpement of ubuntu 10.10 is finished, wich means that ubuntu RC is the same wich gonna be available in 10/10/2010...is that a fact ?
[20:33] <nogo> jhutchins: maybe it's just a package of debian
[20:33] <vuln> JackStoner: It says only the application software.
[20:33] <vuln> and it's not my model.
[20:33] <xangua> HexLaTor: no
[20:34] <akaustav> I just wanted to update vlc to the latest version. That required me to add maverick main and maverick universe repositories.
[20:34] <nogo> jhutchins: but, ubuntu is more moral than such as ylmf
[20:34] <jhutchins> nogo: No, it seems to be happening on ubuntu installations.
[20:34] <HexLaTor> xangua : why ? is there anything else to add these 10 days ??
[20:34] <xangua> akaustav: http://www.techdrivein.com/2010/08/vlc-in-ubuntu-gets-new-ppa-and-its.html
[20:34] <LjL> jhutchins: yikes, i hope not, or the #debian ops will stone us to death i'm sure
[20:34] <jhutchins> nogo: This has happened several times before, the packagers are too lazy to change the settings when they rebuild it.
[20:34] <LjL> jhutchins: what version would that be, Maverick?
[20:35] <nogo> jhutchins: i have unistalled xchat, it's not to be trusted
[20:35] <jhutchins> LjL: Trying to find out so I can bugreport it.
[20:35] <jhutchins> 2.8.6
[20:35] <nogo> jhutchins: maybe it's maintained by a lazy panda
[20:35] <akaustav> Thanks xangua.
[20:36] <jhutchins> nogo: That would be a discredit to pandas.
[20:36] <jhutchins> !bts
[20:36] <hdgc> Hi, I need some help with this bug: libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Device or resource busy, this happens when I use cheese
[20:36] <nogo> jhutchins: if you use linux for years, you will know who is maintaining what
[20:38] <Mjiig>  i'm having some trouble with ubuntuone, i selected a folder on my desktop and told it to sync, but it doesn't seem to be doing so :(
[20:38] <Mjiig> i'm pretty sure my account is set up properly
[20:39] <sburwood> When I start up my desktop computer, it lists the various kernels available and that have been installed on the compouter.  How do I remove the old kernelsso that only the newest is listed?
[20:39] <sburwood> When I start up my desktop computer, it lists the various kernels available and that have been installed on the compouter.  How do I remove the old kernels so that only the newest is listed?
[20:39] <jcrawford> damn lastpass wont let me just create one
[20:39] <jcrawford> looks like it only gets put in when FF asks
[20:39] <jcrawford> :)
[20:39] <jcrawford> I have a few passwords I would like to store for things such as SSH accounts, MySql accounts yada yada
[20:39] <st__> sburwood, uninstall linux-image-OLDVERSIONHERE via synaptic
[20:40] <jshriver> how can you have ubuntu probe hardware and autogenerate xorg.conf? it's been years since I last did that
[20:40] <hdgc> sburwood: apt-get remove linux-image-2.6xxx
[20:40] <kunguz> Anyone tried Civilization V with playonlinux or wine?
[20:41] <akaustav> Now that I have the maverick main and maverick universe repos added in my lucid installation, what is the correct way to remove them?
[20:41] <st__> jshriver, Xorg -configure as root
[20:41] <tpdd_work> can anyone recommend a fix for the bug on 10.10 that detects wireless cards as 3g instead of cdma?
[20:41] <jshriver> t
[20:41] <jshriver> ty
[20:41] <Blue1> !java
[20:43] <erUSUL> !10.10 | tpdd_work
[20:43] <werdikt> hi
[20:44] <werdikt> If somebody know how i can uotput some logs on desktop???
[20:44] <nogo> on root window?
[20:45] <xiven> Need a little help please! I have a LinkSys WUSB100 V2(or 3)"Pen Drive" Wireless Adapter, unfortunately the NDISWrapper documentation says it is known to NOT work. Can anyone shed some light on how I get my adapter to work?
[20:46] <werdikt> If somebody know how i can uotput some logs on desktop (in background)???
[20:46]  * Oxymoron hates mIRC
[20:47] <sburwood> how do I remove from the menu at boot time the older kernels?
[20:47] <st__> sburwood, uninstall linux-image-OLDVERSIONHERE via synaptic
[20:48] <tpdd_work> can anyone recommend a fix for the bug on 10.04 that detects wireless cards as 3g instead of cdma? sorry i didnt mean 10.10
[20:48] <dugger5688> I'm on a macbook3-1, with a BCM4321, does anyone know why WPA networks behave so badly but unencrypted seem to work fine?
[20:49] <sburwood> st__: and that will remove the kernels from the menu?
[20:49] <hdgc> yes
[20:49] <st__> sburwood, yes, if no errors will occur
[20:50] <undecim> is rc.local run before or after daemons are started?
[20:50] <MalelDraconis> Hey, can anyone tell me how to convert .mp3 to .wav?  I can do it the other way around, but can't get it to work this way
[20:50] <alanEdukeDotOrg> hey guys
[20:50] <dajhorn> MalelDraconis: `sox` is an easy way.
[20:50] <MalelDraconis> dajhorn, how would I go about doing this?
[20:51] <dajhorn> MalelDraconis: Install sox, read the docs, and run it.
[20:51] <shubbar> i see you put mr floodbot on the gate
[20:51] <shubbar> anyway,
[20:51] <MalelDraconis> dajhorn, thanks
[20:51] <travis_______> hey there, is it possible to read the output from a tty console into a pts type one?
[20:51] <shubbar> i m having trouble with my external wd drive
[20:51] <dajhorn> MalelDraconis: Welcome.  Remember to install the extra -fmt packages for sox.   sox infile.mp3 outfile.wav
[20:52] <shubbar> sometimes, i cannot access it and it give a click, click sound
[20:52] <erUSUL> MalelDraconis: ffmpeg -i file.mp3 file.wav
[20:52] <shubbar> could it be from the ntfs file system?
[20:53] <Borgoluzzuo> does anyone know how to install zlib?
[20:54] <erUSUL> Borgoluzzuo: is already intalled; you mean the dev files?
[20:54] <Borgoluzzuo> I tried installing rubygems, but everytime I do gem list, I get "ERROR:  Loading command: list (LoadError)
[20:54] <Borgoluzzuo>     no such file to load -- zlib
[20:54] <Borgoluzzuo> "
[20:54] <Borgoluzzuo> erUSUL: Any ideas?
[20:54] <st__> Borgoluzzuo, zlib1g-dev
[20:54] <hiexpo> what kind of dile is it  ?
[20:54] <zamba> i'm looking for a router distro that supports openvpn, 802.1q and QoS
[20:55] <zamba> any suggestions?
 are the maverick fonts available somewhere for a lucid user (not for long)
 ?
[20:55] <guntbert> !ot | zamba
[20:55] <Borgoluzzuo> st_: Then reinstall rubygems?
[20:55] <hiexpo> ^file Borgoluzzuo
[20:55] <erUSUL> Borgoluzzuo: you may need libzlib-ruby
[20:55] <nogo> blackxored: your fonts are blur all the time
[20:55] <st__> erUSUL, does it exist?
[20:55] <erUSUL> !info libzlib-ruby
[20:56] <st__> dummy, mind you
[20:56] <Borgoluzzuo> I'm assuming I need to reinstall ruby and/or rubygems after installing those libs?
[20:56] <undecim> how to run a command after all the init.d scripts have run?
[20:56] <st__> blackxored, maverick font as new ubuntu font?
[20:57] <MashPotato> when doing a "fdisk -l /dev/sda1" (that's where my windows XP partition resides), I get this warning: "Partition table entries are not in disk order" - I assume I could fix it with fsck, but what should I really do?
[20:57] <blackxored> st__, how to get it in lucid?
[20:57] <st__> blackxored, i would unadvise it because it poor copy of MS Segoe UI font
[20:57] <nogo> blackxored: all free fonts are badly hinted
[20:57] <undecim> MashPotato: I don't think fsck will fix that, because it's not a filesystem issue
[20:58] <st__> blackxored, it's somewhere in PPA on launchpad
[20:58] <undecim> MashPotato: More importantly, why are you running fdisk on a partition rather than a drive?
[20:58] <st__> blackxored, i believe you should be in beta program to get access
[20:58] <blackxored> st__ yep I am
[20:58] <blackxored> it happens i reinstalled
[20:58] <MashPotato> undecim: right, what sort of issue is it? I need to get certain information from fdisk in order to run that partition in VirtualBox
[20:58] <st__> blackxored, one minute
[20:58] <blackxored> but now it says not found, so i assume it's moved
[20:59] <erUSUL> nogo: feel free to improve them ;P
[20:59] <nogo> erUSUL: i have my own elite fonts
[20:59] <undecim> MashPotato: You need to use sda, not sda1. Fdisk is interpreting the partition as a whole other disk and interpreting data as a partition table when in fact it would be the filesystem header.
[20:59] <MashPotato> undecim: ah silly me
[20:59] <MashPotato> undecim: thank you
[21:00] <Borgoluzzuo> I still get the zlib error when doing 'gemlist' -- any ideas?
[21:00] <vuln> nogo
[21:00] <nogo> vuln: what?
[21:00] <vuln> and that other guy I forgot the name
[21:00] <supernapalm> Heya (on 10.4 btw), I'm trying to get Half Life 2 working, got it started in game with sound, but it doesn't show any models like all npcs but background objects are fine. I was told on the wine irc that I needed more reliable drivers (got edge open source ones atm) like gallium3d but I'm not sure how to remove my old drivers and install ones that might work better
[21:00] <vuln> I was pluggin it upside down -.-
[21:00] <vuln> that's why it wasn't working.
[21:00] <iAmTheDave> stupid question - trying to change the bash prompt for user. PS1 in ~/.bash_profile works great, but /root/.bashrc doesn't seem to run when i do "sudo -s" - am i missing something?
[21:00] <vuln> lol
[21:00]  * vuln face palms nogo
[21:01] <iAmTheDave> i can manually "source /root/.bashrc" and i get my settings set
[21:01] <st__> blackxored, sorry, cannot find ppa address
[21:01] <blackxored> st__, there you go :'(
[21:01] <erUSUL> iAmTheDave: use « sudo -i »
[21:01] <erUSUL> !rootshell | iAmTheDave
[21:01] <undecim> iAmTheDave: I think you need to use sudo -i, otherwise you have environment variable problems.
[21:01] <iAmTheDave> erUSUL: brilliant
[21:02] <iAmTheDave> and yeah, i usually sudo one-off commands
[21:03] <iAmTheDave> undecim: thnks :)
[21:04] <seekwill> Is there a really simple program that can crop and resize images? Nothing really fancy like gimp
[21:04] <jrib> seekwill: imagemagick?
[21:04] <h00k> seekwill: shotwell can, also fspot
[21:04] <erUSUL> seekwill: gthumb; f-spot
[21:04] <xiven> Can anyone tell me how to mount a wubi installation using Cygwin?
[21:04] <seekwill> Cool, thanks
[21:04] <erUSUL> seekwill: and in command line imagemagick
[21:05] <st__> cropping images in command line is very unvise
[21:06] <mxe5> I have a laptop that has Ubuntu and can't remember the password - can I boot to a live CD and reset my password somehow ? ?
[21:06] <seekwill> erUSUL: hehe, yeah, I was looking something similar to Preview on OSX :)
[21:06] <supernapalm> Heya (on 10.4 btw), I'm trying to get Half Life 2 working, got it started in game with sound, but it doesn't show any models like all npcs but background objects are fine. I was told on the wine irc that I needed more reliable drivers (got edge open source ones atm) like gallium3d but I'm not sure how to remove my old drivers and install ones that might work better
[21:06] <dajhorn> xiven: Cygwin has a mount command, but it doesn't work in the same was as a native mount command.  You need an IFS driver for Windows.
[21:06] <erUSUL> !lostpassword | mxe5
[21:06] <st__> mxe5, edit command line and change init to /bin/bash, then change it from there
[21:07] <aef> hi, i'm running an Ubuntu lucid system as guest on a Debian lenny xen hypervisor. I use pygrub to boot the system with Ubuntu's own kernel, also the system is installed on an lvm partition. Recently I stopped the guest system to increase it's memory from 1024 to 1280 MiB. After doing that, the system isn't booting up correctly anymore. It just stops without any errors after calling the init-bottom section of the initramfs image. this initramfs stage
[21:07] <aef>  contains udev and plymouth. any idea what could cause this?
[21:07] <aef> changing the memory size back doesn't make the system boot again
[21:07] <sburwood> st__: thank you for your answer
[21:07] <sburwood> bye
[21:07] <aef> i also tried reinstalling the guest system with the newer beta maverick ubuntu distro. the same thing happend after increasing the memory size
[21:07] <alaing> its it good to use /vars/www if you planning to have a user ftp files to that folder?
[21:07] <helper> heyss! how i can send attachment file using mutt?
[21:07] <dajhorn> supernapalm: If the regular wine packages don't work, then try CrossOver.  It is unlikely that gallium3d is packaged for Lucid.
[21:07] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:08] <Varazir> I just like to say that the first Gotchas on this page is false https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[21:08] <mxe5> erUSUL: Thanks much!
[21:08] <erUSUL> mxe5: yw
[21:08] <st__> Varazir, edit them then
[21:08] <alaing> is it good to use /vars/www if you planning to have a user ftp files to that folder?
[21:08] <glaucous> From what kernel version is trim for SSDs supported?
[21:08] <seekwill> gthumb works great. thanks!
[21:09] <alaing> is it good to use /vars/www if you planning to have a user ftp files to that folder? /vars/www is owned by root
[21:09] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:09] <HoNgOuRu> how do I install codecs for recording videos? I need the mp3 codec
[21:09] <Varazir> st__: then I need to create a account
[21:09] <dajhorn> glaucous: Doing this is still somewhat dangerous on Lucid.  Look for a helper script in the hdparm package.  You might need to upgrade hdparm to get the helper script.
[21:10] <erUSUL> HoNgOuRu: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:10] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[21:10] <erUSUL> !codecs | HoNgOuRu
[21:10] <xangua> HoNgOuRu: codecs to record videos¿
[21:10] <supernapalm> dajhorn, thank you I will try Crossover out
[21:10] <HoNgOuRu> thanks erUSUL
[21:10] <dajhorn> supernapalm: Welcome.  You need the CrossOver Games variant.
[21:11] <HoNgOuRu> xangua
[21:11] <HoNgOuRu> I want to record a screen video
[21:11] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:11] <HoNgOuRu> and to encode the sound
[21:11] <alaing> can someone give me advise on setting up a webserver for personal use that will be placed online.
[21:11] <HoNgOuRu> I think I need a codec
[21:11] <HoNgOuRu> for mp3
[21:11] <TiK> nice just booted ubuntu in the computer lab at school
[21:12] <glaucous> dajhorn, yes I heard something about that. I believe I can live without TRIM for a while until it's safer, trim doesn't affect life time much anyhow
[21:12] <HoNgOuRu> I was using the pcm16 but it breakes after a while
[21:12] <TiK> gstreamer
[21:12] <TiK> i think
[21:12] <Evil_Eric> hi i am trying to change the actual log in screen on ubuntu 10.04 not the back ground but the screen that pops up where you type your user name and password can anyone help
[21:12] <TiK> I have a list at home.. you can google 10.04 +after install and get the list
[21:13] <ben_q> anyone know why network speed is low (samba 8.9MB/s, ftp 11.xMB/s) between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server, locally linked via gbit-network-cards
[21:13] <nogo> glaucous: let winzone users be the lab mice
[21:13] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:13] <dajhorn> ben_q: Use ethtool and check whether the interfaces are running at 100 mbit.
[21:14] <ben_q> thanks, dajhorn, I will try
[21:14] <Evil_Eric> Tik was that for me?
[21:14] <TiK> Evil_Eric: idk
[21:15] <TiK> it was for HoNgOuRu sorry
[21:15] <Daniel> hi everyone. I'm improving the 71529-ubucleaner.sh script so, which command can i input for delete the terminal history? And which command to restart and clean terminal?
[21:16] <glaucous> In what directory are deb files stored by apt-get?
[21:16] <HoNgOuRu> gstreamer? Tik
[21:16] <LjL> glaucous: /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:16] <st__> glaucous, /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:17] <Evil_Eric> well if anyone has answers or links to my question please pm me the question is 'How to change the log in screen on ubuntu 10,04 not the back ground screen but the actual smaller screen where you type your user name and password?" thanks guys
[21:17] <erUSUL> Daniel: of all users? will be run as root?
[21:17] <glaucous> LjL, st__ , I guess you might as well put that on RAM/tmpfs then?
[21:17] <erUSUL> glaucous: why?
[21:17] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:17] <Daniel> erUSUL: Yeah.
[21:17] <st__> glaucous, why not?
[21:17] <TiK> HoNgOuRu: yeah gstreamer: or google  ubuntu 10.04 +after install and it lists them
[21:17] <wirelessdreamer> i'm stuck in a dependency loop, tied into this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-cluster-7.0/+bug/629005
[21:17] <LjL> glaucous: hmm. i guess it wouldn't have adverse effects, except for the fact that if you uninstall a package and then reinstall it, it'll have to be downloaded again
[21:17] <dajhorn> daniel: HISTSIZE=0 and reinvoke.  History behaves differently in non-bash shells.
[21:18] <bobstro> Evil_Eric:  what did you want to change?
[21:18] <wirelessdreamer>  I can't get apt back into a sane state after trying to install mysqlcluster this is on LTS not RC
[21:18] <glaucous> erUSUL, the SSD will probably enjoy it (less writes).
[21:18] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[21:18] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[21:18] <glaucous> LjL, exactly, shouldn't be a problem
[21:18] <bobstro> ben_q:  you've seen the docs on improving samba performance
[21:18] <Daniel> erUSUL: OK.
[21:18] <Rotham> hey....
[21:19] <HoNgOuRu> Tik, I can listen to mp3 files
[21:19] <Rotham> im trying to install ubuntu and the partition I want to install it on is showing up as unusable
[21:19] <Evil_Eric> bobstro, i want to change the color i am currently customizing ubuntu for a darker theme
[21:19] <bobstro> ben_q:  also, is anything else on the network?
[21:19] <HoNgOuRu> my problem is that I want to encode using mp3
[21:19] <bobstro> ben_q:  or hitting the server?
[21:19] <Rotham> I made it by shrinking my main windows install partition
[21:19] <Rotham> how can I fix that?
[21:19] <erUSUL> Daniel: asumming all users have their homes in /home/ ; « for dir in /home/*/; do : > "$dir"/.bash_history; done » but if the users use a different shell it wont work ;P
[21:19] <HoNgOuRu> btw Im intererested in use the flv + mp3 encoder so I can upload it to youtube
[21:19] <st__> Evil_Eric, it's somewhere deep in appearance settings
[21:19] <glaucous> Is there a command in mount to mount all drives in fstab after it has been changed? To make sure it works that is.
[21:20] <Evil_Eric> no it not
[21:20] <bobstro> st__:  for the login screen?
[21:20] <janisozaur> hello. recently I tried to install maverick daily on a pendrive, I've done it many times in the past, this time however, upon successful finish, my pendrive doesn't mount, nor it is listed in boot-up devices on my laptop. the only log shown in /var/log/messages after inserting it to usb slot is "new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 13" and nothing more. "ls /dev/sd*" is the same before and after plugging it in. any idea
[21:20] <janisozaur> s how can I fix it?
[21:20] <erUSUL> glaucous: sudo mount -a -o remount
[21:20] <glaucous> erUSUL, that's the one, thanks
[21:21] <h00k> !maverick | janisozaur
[21:21] <Daniel> dajhorn: OK
[21:21] <bobstro> Evil_Eric:  to change the login scree, there are some workarounds that basically involve launching the root user's appearance settings. i don't recall the specifics, but if you google for something like "change ubuntu 10.04 login" you should find them. it's amazingly difficult with the latest releases.
[21:21] <janisozaur> h00k, why would you suggest that?
[21:21] <janisozaur> h00k, this was all done on lucid and concerns lucid
[21:21] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:21] <Borgoluzzuo> does anyone know how to upgrade ruby from 1.8.6 to 1.8.7 via apt-get ?
[21:21] <Evil_Eric> wooohooo dificult here we come
[21:22] <bobstro> Evil_Eric:  well... really annoying anyhow.
[21:22] <dajhorn> janisozaur: Flash drives burn out.  Isolate the problem by trying a second USB stick.
[21:22] <Evil_Eric> bobstro, ive been at this for 3 days now
[21:22] <h00k> janisozaur: I misunderstood, apologies.
[21:22] <bobstro> Evil_Eric:  oh, it shouldn't be *that* hard. let me check my history, maybe i've got a link.
[21:22] <crucialhoax> Is anyone else having a problem with banshee 1.7.6? Mine is crashing every time I open it..
[21:22] <janisozaur> dajhorn, after half a year? I doubt it. but indeed, other pendrives do work
[21:23] <Evil_Eric> well ive been doing other things also
[21:23] <Daniel> erUSUL: Ok. But have you seen the Terminal menu? Reset and Clear?
[21:24] <ruif13> hi, please anyone can help? i don't have sound in my phones :( i'm using 10.04
[21:24] <erUSUL> Daniel: "clear" and "reset" are actual terminal commands that do what you expect
[21:24] <alkrop> Hello, how do I find which ati version of the drivers I have downloaded from ubuntu software manager?:D
[21:24] <ruif13> :(
[21:24] <janisozaur> dajhorn, it's "ocz", I'd say they aren't known for producing crap. at least I hope so
[21:24] <kichawa> hi, i have to press enter to see the login field in gdm
[21:24] <Evil_Eric> hey bobstro if you find that link just pm it to me if you would please sir
[21:25] <Daniel> erUSUL: yeah but this command can be executed by typing in terminal?
[21:25] <Rotham> I resized a windows partition to install ubuntu, and now the free space is showing up as unusable... how can I fix this?
[21:25] <nogo> janisozaur: some people claimed they got screwed by corsair
[21:26] <st__> Rotham, in disk manager it's fine
[21:26] <janisozaur> nogo, any chance that you know if their results are similar?
[21:26] <dwarder> how the game is called where tux shoots colored iceballs?
[21:27] <Evil_Eric> is 10.10 stable yet
[21:27] <KimK> frozen bubble?
[21:27] <nogo> janisozaur: i am lucky. i don't touch corsair, ocz and gskill
[21:27] <dwarder> KimK: yeah, thanks :)
[21:27] <Rotham> st__ : I resized it with the windows 7 disk manager, but ubuntu doesnt like it.
[21:27] <alkrop> Evil_Eric,  Go to #ubuntu+1
[21:27] <KimK> there's a similar one with a monkey
[21:27] <st__> Rotham, just create a new partition there
[21:27] <xcyclist> Evil_Eric:  10.10 is still beta and is covered in #Ubuntu+1 or something like that.
[21:28] <MaMoUs> Can i two passwords open one account In ubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:28] <janisozaur> xcyclist, actually, it's rc
[21:28] <Rotham> do I have to create the new partition in windows?
[21:28] <xbonesx> how do you set these? http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter?page=1
[21:28] <xcyclist> Ok.  Yes, that sounds right.  But it is #ubuntu+1 right?
[21:28] <guntbert> MaMoUs: that question was not clear to me
[21:28] <Evil_Eric> yeah but you would think with 9 days left befor release that they would know if its stable yet
[21:28] <janisozaur> xcyclist, yes. there is ubuntu factoid "!maverick" for that
[21:29] <nogo> Evil_Eric: i saw that final countdown everywhere
[21:29] <nogo> ubuntu has the best marketing
[21:29] <Evil_Eric> i cant get away from it
[21:29] <guntbert> Evil_Eric: just don't discuss it here - we have enough traffic, don't you think?
[21:30] <xcyclist> So, in my 10.04 I have recently lost the top-bar icons for both the network configurations, and pidgeon's little green dot.  What's with that?
[21:30] <MaMoUs> guntbert: ... 1 i have 1 user in my PC, and i want to make two deferent passwords for the same user
[21:31] <guntbert> MaMoUs: no, that is not possible, why do you want that?
[21:31] <kla> Why is 'nautilus' running in the background while in my kde session??
[21:32] <dwarder> KimK: do you know how to turn off sound of this game?
[21:32] <nogo> MaMoUs: there are many acl models already
[21:32] <Crazy_Dave> A little help.... I'm running ubuntu 10.4.1. I want to do away with the upper panel on my desktp screen and run everything through the bottom panel. I've moved all the icons accept the wired connection icon. And there seems to be no way to move the icon to the lower panel. Any help with this? Would it harm my connection if I just deleted the panel and icon ?
[21:32] <sometux_> does anyone know about a free ssl vpn service?
[21:32] <KimK> I think there's a menu item, isn't there?
[21:32] <xcyclist> Crazy_Dave:  I think you can just move the whole panel to down below instead of above and use them 2 on the bottom.
[21:33] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: i use only one panel. it's enough
[21:33] <Crazy_Dave> I tried that, but it looked to crowded
[21:33] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: this is not mint
[21:33] <Crazy_Dave> xcyclist: I tried that but it looked too crowded
[21:33] <MaMoUs> guntbert: Cz the password i use it unlock my email password in evolution, and i don't want to keep sign in and entring passwords if i change it, Cz if my sister log in i don't want to give her the pass for my files
[21:34] <xcyclist> Crazy_Dave:  Yes, I wouldn't like it that way either.  Isn't the bottom panel a different beast though?
[21:34] <VCoolio> kla: did you use nautilus earlier in your session?
[21:34] <Crazy_Dave> nogo: I'm not using mint but I am familiar with that OS' environment
[21:34] <guntbert> MaMoUs: then make a new account for her - or let her use the "guest" account
[21:34] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: sure, if you are a panda
[21:34] <kla> VCoolio, I didn't, I think it was launched automatically
[21:35] <KimK> I'm having trouble in 10.04 using the "Main Menu" menu editor.  I made some changes, but I've been deleting some entries.  I'm getting the idea I shouldn't do that, just uncheck them.  Anyway, I lost a menu entry for an app, and I tried "uninstall completely" followed by "install" (reinstall).  I also tried "revert", but that's a mixed blessing, took me awhile to fix things up again after that.  Any other ideas on how to restore a lost menu item?
[21:35] <ben_q> I tried ethtool and it says on both devices "100Mb/s FULL duplex", although both cards can do "1000Mb/s FULL", how can I force them? if I try to set it with ethtool, it's resetting again
[21:35] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: in fact, there is a better choice for pandas. it's ylmf
[21:35] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:35] <dwarder> how do i disable sound in frozen bubbles?
[21:35] <MaMoUs> guntbert: we don't want to make a new user, and about that guest she want to use admin stuff, so she could use all featuers and install any thing she likes
[21:35] <Crazy_Dave> xcyclist. It doesn't seem to support the open window tray icons
[21:35] <st__> MaMoUs, add it to admin group
[21:35] <VCoolio> kla: check if it's in /etc/xdg/autostart  those could be autostarted while you didn't set it; if so, remove, or move to ~/.local/share/applications and edit to not autostart
[21:36] <MaMoUs> st__: we don't want to make a new user thats why
[21:36] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: i have 3 applets for mixer, alsa and pulse on my only one panel
[21:36] <crucialhoax> Is anyone else having a problem with banshee 1.7.6? Mine is crashing every time I open it..
[21:36] <st__> MaMoUs, add existing user and it will be able to use sudo
[21:36] <xcyclist> What's wrong with making a new user?
[21:36] <guntbert> MaMoUs: then make a new user for her and give that account "managing priviledges" - creating a new user is easy and fast
[21:37] <st__> crucialhoax, run it in terminal and submit a bug
[21:37] <crucialhoax> st__: There is nothing in the terminal that suggests a crash, even when I run it in debug mode :( and I already submitted a bug
[21:37] <Crazy_Dave> nogo: I have all my icons such as dat/time, shutdown, volume control, help menu, etc on the lower panle
[21:37] <st__> crucialhoax, appy strace :)
[21:37] <crucialhoax> st__: huh?
[21:38] <st__> run it via strace and make log
[21:38] <kla> VCoolio, nautilus doesn't seem to be in any of the files under /etc/xdg/autostart afaict
[21:38] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: i have ALL hardware sensors on it too
[21:39] <KimK> dwarder: F11 toggles the music, F12 toggles the music & sound Fx: http://www.frozen-bubble.org/faq/#functionkeys
[21:39] <supernapalm> ok so I tried the suggestion of installing Crossover Games to get Half Life running properly but steam wouldn't work after installing. Everything works fine in wine I just can't see models such as all NPCs (including Gman in the opening) but the background objects are fine
[21:39] <kla> VCoolio, but it must have been left overs from the gnome install since I installed the kubuntu-desktop virtual package after installing from a regular cd
[21:39] <x0rs_ha> if I am going to compile programs on my ubuntu PC are there any prerequisite packages I need to install to make sure the compiles will work?
[21:39] <kla> VCoolio, it's probably being started through some mechanism that I don't know of
[21:40] <Crazy_Dave> nogo, I tried that but there is no icon in ubuntu for the bottom panel that shows that I am connected to the internet
[21:40] <dajhorn> x0rs_ha: Install the build-essential package.
[21:40] <nogo> x0rs_ha: i can chroot and build something without extra installations
[21:40] <x0rs_ha> dajhorn: excellent, thanks
[21:41] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: how comes?
[21:41] <VCoolio> kla: maybe it's something in gdm; you could open gconf-editor and uncheck option to draw desktop in apps>nautilus>desktop, but that will affect login into gnome too, but it's not hard to reset
[21:41] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:41] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: don't you have 'networkmanager'?
[21:41] <kla> VCoolio, i've set kdm as a display manager though
[21:41] <Crazy_Dave> nogo: Yes, I do have network manage
[21:41] <crucialhoax> st__: How can I get strace to write to a file so I can upload it?
[21:41]  * nogo scratches the head
[21:42] <preecher> is there a command i can enter to disable pulse and use alsa?
[21:42] <nogo> Crazy_Dave: you should have it and a xim
[21:42] <erUSUL> crucialhoax: strace command 2> somefile
[21:42] <Crazy_Dave> nogo: the only thing is that When I hover over it, it tells me that I am connected. The icon cannot be duplicated in the bottom panel and there is no other icon that shows I am connected without having to open a windows on my desktop
[21:43] <VCoolio> kla: meh, I'm just guessing here; give it a shot; I don't know, I'll leave you to the mercy of the channel
[21:43] <llutz> crucialhoax: strace -o file
[21:43] <kla> VCoolio, I will. Very much appreciated :)
[21:45] <Eimhin> Can anyone give me advice on how to get a PS3 controller working with a laptop running Ubuntu?
[21:45] <crucialhoax> thanks erUSUL and llutz  :) Im going to pastebin that file when Im done
[21:46] <erUSUL> !joystick
[21:46] <kallisti5> ruh-oh... found a bug in the RC.   USB headphones don't work.
[21:47] <erUSUL> kallisti5: /join #ubuntu+1
[21:47] <crucialhoax> I opened preferences and it turned the banshee window gray.. degh
[21:48] <ThonEney> how can i mount my other 2 partitions at boot?
[21:48] <llutz> ThonEney: add them to /etc/fstab
[21:48] <sometux_> does anyone know about a free ssl vpn service?
[21:49] <xiven> I don't suppose anyone would know how to get Ubuntu to utilitize Windows' internet without actually being in Windows?
[21:49] <xiven> Since Ubuntu is technically installed within Windows..I was hoping that may be possible.
[21:49] <ThonEney> how exactly do i put in the ids in fstab?
[21:50] <elitecoder> How do I upgrade 9.10 to 10?
[21:50] <llutz> ThonEney: UUID=<uuid of your partition you'll get with blkid> /mount/point <filesystem>  some,options 0 0
[21:50] <elitecoder> I tried this: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[21:50] <elitecoder> It says it's up to date, but I checked /etc/issue and it says 9.10
[21:51] <nogo> sometux_: free ssl vpn = let somebody get in your house and eat your foods in the fridge freely. no filters anymore
[21:52] <xiven> Good grief! I can't get stuff to setup on Cygwin, and Ubuntu cannot get internet.
[21:52] <elitecoder> Nm I did it wrong
[21:52] <Crazy_Dave> nogo: situation solved. All I had to do was add an information area to the lower panel and the icon appeared
[21:53] <ThonEney> the whole uuid thing is unclear, blkid?
[21:53] <ben_q> why are my cards not using gbit, they only settle for 100Mb/s, how can I change that?
[21:53] <ThonEney> nvm found it
[21:53] <nogo> ben_q: what's your ifconfig -a says?
[21:53] <erUSUL> !uuid > ThonEney
[21:54] <ben_q> nogo, what exactly do you mean?
[21:55] <nogo> ben_q: sorry, you have a 'gnome-network' in your menu
[21:55] <ben_q> when I plug in the cable between the two computers, ethtool shows that they settle for "100Mb/s FULL"
[21:55] <xbonesx> how do you set these? http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter?page=1
[21:55] <ben_q> ifconfig shows a lot, I wanted to know what piece of information you mean ;) I can't paste it all here, nogo
[21:56] <nogo> ben_q: how much packet lose do you get?
[21:56] <alaing> how do i change the owner of /vars/www from root to simply_stupid_user
[21:56] <glaucous> When booting (without quiet and splash flags) I see that I get stuck at "warning: maximal mount count reached..". Ubuntu 10.04 x64
[21:57] <ben_q> nogo, shall I run ping on the 100Mb/s connection?
[21:57] <ThonEney> how do i edit fstab thru console? sudo gedit /location brings up a blank fstab (needs root acces)
[21:57] <agentgasmask> alaing: sudo chown simply_stupid_user:simply_stupid_user /var/www
[21:57] <nogo> ben_q: the gnome-network can show you this
[21:57] <xbonesx> ben_q: you ubuntupastebin, google it
[21:58] <nogo> ben_q: it has a historical record
[21:58] <xbonesx> use*
[21:58] <agentgasmask> alaing: checkout: man chown
[21:58] <alaing> agentgasmask: is the second bit after : the password?
[21:59] <ben_q> nogo, sorry I'm not sure where to look for a packet loss history
[21:59] <Dulak> alaing: that's the group you are changing ownership to
[21:59] <agentgasmask> alaing: the second bit is for changing the group at the same time. you can leave it out if you want to keep the group as root
[22:00] <tris2k> anyone tried eclipse rap for web dev
[22:00] <alaing> thanks
[22:00] <agentgasmask> alaing: You can only change the owner of a directory/file you own, unless you do it as root.
[22:00] <alaing> sudo?
[22:01] <nogo> ben_q: i have to tell you this. the default ubuntu 10.04 installation is unusable without tweaks
[22:01] <agentgasmask> alaing: right, sudo will give you root access.
[22:01] <alaing> chown: cannot access `/vars/www': No such file or directory
[22:02] <alaing> oops typo var not vars
[22:02] <nogo> ben_q: you may get network and sound and high cpu usage issues
[22:02] <agentgasmask> alaing: I think you want /var/www not /vars/www
[22:02] <agentgasmask> alaing: oh, just saw your next post
[22:02] <alvin_rxg> FloodBot1: any russian channel?
[22:02] <ben_q> ok, nogo, I would just like to force my cards to their gbit ;)
[22:03] <moetunes> !ru | alvin_rxg
[22:03] <nogo> ben_q: if you are using mint 9 ... it has same bugs too
[22:03] <alvin_rxg> moetunes: thx, not to me. xD  there's a russian in #ubuntu-cn...
[22:03] <moetunes> o
[22:04] <oscar4081> I have dmraid installed on 10.04
[22:04] <oscar4081> and can see all of my disks with fdisk but it doesn't list my exisiting highpoint raid array
[22:04] <nogo> alvin_rxg: the 7zip guy?
[22:04] <ben_q> nogo, I have ubuntu 10.04 server and desktop
[22:04] <st__> does hostname <new name> effect persists?
[22:05] <nogo> alvin_rxg: great. ubuntu is flagship-class
[22:05] <alvin_rxg> nogo: what 7zip guy?
[22:05] <KimJongIl> hey
[22:05] <ben_q> nogo, and a direct cat5 cable running from one network adapter to the other
[22:05] <oscar4081> any pointers for getting ubuntu to see my exisiting highpoint raid array?
[22:05] <PMantis> Hi guys, I plugged an external monitor in to my laptop, turned it on for use, and now it's locked up. However, I can SSH in to it. Is there a way I can reset the screen settings remotely?
[22:05] <KimJongIl> im having problems with a wireless card on another laptop, can anyone help please?
[22:05] <nogo> ben_q: is the cable made by yourself?
[22:05] <KimJongIl> i found a page that tells me to download ndiswrapper, but that doesnt seem to exist anymore
[22:05] <oscar4081> PMantis: restart X or run the the xsetup script
[22:06] <nogo> ben_q: make sure that every pin is connected
[22:06] <KimJongIl> its a broadcom bcm4318 wireless card
[22:06] <nogo> ben_q: ALL pins
[22:06] <lordcrc> hi, im being a bit daft here... got 10.10 installed, and i want to keep my interface in english but have 24hr clock... and i just cant find the option to change that
[22:06] <KimJongIl> can anyone help?
[22:06] <alaing> how do I set /var/www as being the default folder for ftp
[22:06] <kaizoku> So, when building a custom installer livecd, how can I enable ttys?
[22:06] <st__> if you understand russian, try ALT Linux for better results
[22:06] <ben_q> nogo, it's an old cable and yes, the plugs were added by me to the cable
[22:06] <st__> does hostname <new name> effect persists?
[22:06] <PMantis> oscar4081, I really don't want to restart X, since I'll lose the documents I was editing. I'll try xsetup
[22:06] <oscar4081> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[22:07] <nogo> ben_q: some brain-dead cables saved some pins
[22:07] <oscar4081> will make it the defaults
[22:07] <ben_q> nogo, can I use a tool to check if the pins work?
[22:07] <CkhiKuzad> I created a shell script to move all of the files in a selected directory to the current one, but whenever i try to run it on my test directory it fails: http://pastebin.com/JifBFuDJ
[22:07] <moetunes> !hostname | st__
[22:07] <KimJongIl> can anyone help regarding wireless problems?
[22:07] <alaing> oscar4081: was that meant for me?
[22:07] <oscar4081> any takes on recognizing existing RAID
[22:07] <KimJongIl> please
[22:07] <nogo> ben_q: yes, in hardware
[22:07] <alaing> KimJongIl: whats up?
[22:07] <oscar4081> alaing: nope
[22:07] <dPix> hello
[22:08] <KimJongIl> hey, im trying to put ubuntu on my grandfathers laptop, everything has gone smoothly except the wireless
[22:08] <nogo> ben_q: but the best solution is just to replace the cable with a new one
[22:08]  * oscar4081 goes to jquery meeting at bocoup in Boston
[22:08] <KimJongIl> ive looked through forums to no avail, some tell me to download ndiswrapper
[22:08] <KimJongIl> which doesnt seem to exist
[22:08] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl:  do you know what kinda of wireless card it is?
[22:08] <Andorin> So the left side of my screen extends past the edge of my monitor by a few pixels... I'm on 10.04, 64-bit, 1440x900 resolution. Anyone know why it's doing this?
[22:08] <KimJongIl> the wireless card is a broadcom BCM4318
[22:08] <ben_q> nogo, easier said than done, it's in the wall :P
[22:09] <nogo> ben_q: lol
[22:09] <dPix> Im tryint to create a chat with netcat (inverse shell), using port XXXX opened in router and trying "nc -l -p XXXX" but will not work, HELP??
[22:09] <darkdelusions> !! Broadcom
[22:09] <nogo> ben_q: poe?
[22:09] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl:  see if that helps
[22:10] <KimJongIl> ok
[22:10] <Rohanc> hai :)
[22:10] <alaing> KimJongIl: AS darkdelusions  says
[22:10]  * nogo stabs Rohanc with smile
[22:10] <dPix> !netcat
[22:10] <dPix> ! netcat
[22:10] <st__> it's good I don;t have sudo
[22:10] <dPix> Im tryint to create a chat with netcat (inverse shell), using port XXXX opened in router and trying "nc -l -p XXXX" but will not work, HELP??
[22:11] <ben_q> well, thanks, nogo, i will try another cable to test for this problem and then.. well dunno
[22:11] <nogo> indeed. netcat is hot at about 2001
[22:11] <PMantis> oscar4081, A reconfigure didn't change my screen. one monitor is black, the other is half there, can't move mouse. However, I am running xchat-gnome on the same computer via ssh -X from another computer. Any other ideas, I *really* don't want to redo my work.
[22:11] <nogo> ben_q: you won't get disappointed
[22:11] <javaPro> Hello all.. :)  I hope everyone is having a great day!
[22:12] <KimJongIl> i dont think mine is supported
[22:12] <KimJongIl> mines a 4318, doesnt look like it is, can someone double check for me pleasE?
[22:13] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[22:13] <HoNgOuRu> what do I need to record sound as vorbis, mp3 or mp2?
[22:13] <darkdelusions> there is a how o
[22:14] <kichawa> any problem with gdm, the login field is hidden until i press the enter :<
[22:14] <crucialhoax> I just added banshees official ppa, but synaptic is showing 1.7.6 for its version, their ppa has 1.8.0 how do I install the latest?
[22:14] <KimJongIl> thats with ndiswrapper darkdelusion?
[22:14] <Rohanc> hai everybody - I'm using a You are using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx 64 bit one, but the screen goes black after sometime of use 1hour or so
[22:14] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl:  You might have to use ndis
[22:14] <KimJongIl> ndiswrapper wont let me download it
[22:15] <KimJongIl> or it doesnt exist anymore?
[22:15] <omani> i have problems with my sound card. 2 hours ago i could listen to music. however, whatever happened to it, it doenst work anymore. snd-hda-intel as module is loaded, but i cant hear anything. pusleaudio says: no output. gnome-volume-manager detects NO hardware
[22:15] <omani> what shall i do? pls
[22:15] <omani> but cat/proc/cards does show my snd card.
[22:15] <KimJongIl> would ndiswrapper common be ok?
[22:16] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl:  I want to say yes but give me a sec
[22:16] <andre_pl> Any OOo guru's here? I'm pressed for time and can't figure out how to do what should be ridiculously simple.
[22:17] <Braber01> Editor: which is more powerful, I'm expercanced in vim, however some of the syntax files don't "sit" right with me
[22:17] <warpool> hello?
[22:17] <nogo> KimJongIl: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/partially-solved-broadcom-b43-no-mac-phy0-error-broadcom-626154/
[22:18] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[22:19] <bobstro> ben_q:  have you only tested with a direct cable between?
[22:19] <nogo> omani: the power-saving issue?
[22:19] <Rohanc> my Ubuntu system screen goes black after 1using 1hr or so.. can't do anything unless I hit the physical restart button
[22:19] <ben_q> bobstro, only with one cable, yet, yes
[22:19] <omani> nogo, which one?
[22:19] <omani> exactly?
[22:19] <nogo> omani: on your sound chip
[22:19] <omani> is it the option u give it when modprobing the module?
[22:19] <KimJongIl> installed
[22:20] <KimJongIl> but now what?
[22:20] <nogo> omani: are you using asus?
[22:20] <KimJongIl> it doesnt seem to be working according to one of the tuts
[22:20] <omani> nogo, yes
[22:20] <nogo> hehe
[22:20] <KimJongIl> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/partially-solved-broadcom-b43-no-mac-phy0-error-broadcom-626154/
[22:20] <bobstro> ben_q:  do you have a switch you could try?
[22:20]  * nogo dies
[22:20] <KimJongIl> step 3 not working
[22:20] <omani> nogo, but im using it for a long time now, never ever happended
[22:20] <KimJongIl> first line of code givs back error
[22:20] <omani> such a problem
[22:21] <ben_q> bobstro, yes, but not now anyway.. have to wait till tomorrow :)
[22:21] <ben_q> thanks anyway
[22:21] <nogo> omani: downgrade your acpi level in the bios
[22:21] <KimJongIl> coudlnt open bcmw15.inf: No such file or dir at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 219
[22:21] <KimJongIl> any ideas?
[22:21] <bobstro> ben_q:  i vaguely recall that the switch had a role in auto-negotiation at 1000Mbps
[22:21] <omani> nogo, but i worked for me since i installed ubuntu. why change anything in bios now? never touched the bios?
[22:22] <omani> s/i/it
[22:22] <nogo> omani: maybe it's old and wants to die
[22:22] <crucialhoax> I just added banshees official ppa, but synaptic is showing 1.7.6 for its version, their ppa has 1.8.0 how do I install the latest?
[22:22] <nogo> omani: just kidding
[22:23] <KimJongIl> darkdelusions?
[22:23] <KimJongIl> any suggestions?
[22:23] <sabayonweb_64737> any one using meerkat ?
[22:23] <bobstro> ben_q:  pick up some quality cables too!
[22:23] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl:  trying to remember :) i havent played with ndis is years....
[22:23]  * nogo is listening to musics with 192khz hda
[22:23] <KimJongIl> cheers
[22:24] <ben_q> yes, thanks bobstro
[22:24] <bobstro> ben_q:  i picked up a couple of cheap d-link 1gbps switches, and it's noticeably faster. you'll be pleased.
[22:25] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl:  whe is the inf sitting?
[22:25] <darkdelusions> err where
[22:25] <omani> nogo, so seriously change the acpi level in bios?
[22:25] <KimJongIl> no idea
[22:25] <Rohanc> is ubuntu 10.04 x64 unstable?
[22:25] <nogo> omani: try s3, then s1
[22:25] <omani> ok
[22:25] <KimJongIl> let me try something...
[22:26] <Rohanc> I'm getting black screens pretty often with 10.04 x64
[22:26] <KimJongIl> gonna try "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source"
[22:26]  * nogo am happy with s5
[22:27] <jappiecr> My profile mananager won;t import profiles anymore. I had it working, made some changes, deleted some accounts, made ne accounts. Did the whole process of making profiles and they are saved under /etc/sabayon/profiles but when I import them, it will open the file, ask me for profile name and when I press enter nothing happens. No even error message! anybody ideas?
[22:27] <nogo> Rohanc: i don't get that black anymore even i am benchmarking
[22:27] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl: Frist thinks first you need to locate the driver for it (do a search on the web you should beable to find a zipped of driver with an INF file and extract it
[22:27] <darkdelusions> to a folder
[22:28] <darkdelusions> wow I cant type today
[22:28] <Dice-Man> wc ?
[22:28] <KimJongIl> the windows driver?
[22:28] <Rohanc> nogo: what I meant black screen is I can't get my display to show but the process is still running
[22:28] <wabash> dajhorn: You around?
[22:28] <StaffanE> is there a easy way to upgrade directly from 9.10 to 10.10rc server?
[22:29] <jrib> !upgrade > StaffanE
[22:29] <nogo> Rohanc: i know what you are saying
[22:29] <Andorin> So the left side of my screen extends past the edge of my monitor by a few pixels... I'm on 10.04, 64-bit, 1440x900 resolution. Anyone know why it's doing this?
[22:29] <ChrisBuchholz> I have three users on my apache server - root and two others. I can easily ssh to the server as root, but not as the  other two users. They do have access to /bin/bash in /etc/passwd. When i try, it asks for password and when i press  return, it just does a black line and the caret just blinks forever. No timeout or anything. What can be up? I'm on  apache2 and ubuntu 10.04 server, btw
[22:29] <nogo> Rohanc: it's a 3d effect
[22:29] <nogo> s/a/an
[22:29] <KimJongIl> WOOHOO!
[22:29] <KimJongIl> done it
[22:29] <Rohanc> nogo: actually I've installed ubuntu after windows 7 using wubi installer
[22:30] <ben_q> bobstro, nogo, I tried with a gbit-switch now, same cable as before, now both cards run at 1000Mb/s :D
[22:30] <ben_q> thank you a lot
[22:30] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: you gave root a password?
[22:30] <Rohanc> nogo: so do u have any suggestions for me?
[22:30] <nogo> Rohanc: no
[22:30] <KimJongIl> The command "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source" worked
[22:30] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: yes, root hasa password
[22:30] <dPix> Im tryint to create a chat with netcat (inverse shell), using port XXXX opened in router and trying "nc -l -p XXXX" but will not work, HELP??
[22:30] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: you gave root a password?
[22:30] <nogo> Rohanc: i don't use wubi
[22:30] <preecher> is there a command i can enter to disable pulse and just use alsa?
[22:30] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: yes
[22:31] <nogo> preecher: just point your vlc or mplayer to alsa
[22:31] <darkdelusions> KimJongIl:  awesome :) all of my cards have been intel (my laptop) so I have been lucky enough not to have to deal with broadcom :)
[22:31] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: what happens when you login as the user locally?
[22:31] <Izoel> isBack
[22:31] <Rohanc> nogo: but I can't even google search, what's problem exactly called? if I search for black screen, it shows me results of total black screen while installing ubuntu
[22:31] <nogo> Rohanc: you can try to install it onto a cheap usbkey like me
[22:32] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: like, su username?
[22:32] <Rohanc> nogo: ok, how do I accomplish that? can I do it with windows 7?
[22:33] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: I guess that would be informative too but I meant logging in at the server itself, not with ssh
[22:33] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: oh, i cant. Its in a datacenter somewhere in london :P
[22:33] <emperium> hello ppl
[22:33] <nogo> Rohanc: burn a iso with windows then boot it off then install onto the usbkey
[22:33] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: erm, but at some point you logged in as a user right?
[22:33] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: but when i log in via su username, it doesn't prompt for password - its just switched
[22:34] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: only as root yes
[22:34] <ChrisBuchholz> via ssh
[22:34] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: root doesn't have a password by default on ubuntu
[22:34] <bobstro> ben_q:  i think the switch does some of the autonegotiation steps that 2 nics wouldn't
[22:34] <ChrisBuchholz> no, but linode.com created one for me :)
[22:34] <nogo> Rohanc: by this way, you can remove ubuntu completely in any time
[22:34] <Rohanc> nogo: u mean burn an iso into a cd and then boot it off and install on usb?
[22:34] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: what other modifications did they make?
[22:34] <emperium> can anyone tell me if it's possible to upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 under wubi using update-manager -d ?
[22:34] <jrib> !10.10 | emperium
[22:34] <glaucous> Is there a way to force apt-get to recreate its folders inside /var/cache? I tried mounting it on tmpfs, which didn't go too well (/var/cache/apt/archives worked better).
[22:35] <Rohanc> nogo: sorry, I couldn't get what did u say
[22:35] <ben_q> yes, bobstro, if forcing doesn't work then I have to use a switch
[22:35] <nogo> Rohanc: just a suggestion
[22:35] <dajhorn> wabash: I'm back.
[22:35] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: other than deploying the ubuntu 10.04 server image and then setting up a password for root, on my request, they did nothing
[22:35] <ChrisBuchholz> then i just ssh'ed
[22:35] <ben_q> bobstro, it's only necessary for bigger files anyway
[22:35] <wabash> dajhorn: Hey, thanks for all yoru help earlier.
[22:35] <dajhorn> wabash: Welcome.  Did it work?
[22:35] <wabash> dajhorn: I was concerned because it was an old flash drive. but I found out what the problem was.
[22:35] <Rohanc> nogo: ok, how did u avoid black screens?
[22:36] <wabash> I have PAE kernel, and these kernels recently stopped recognizing drives.
[22:36] <wabash> So on the non-pae kernel, things work.
[22:36] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: does ssh work ok for the users if you use ssh keys?
[22:36] <dajhorn> wabash: Good catch.
[22:36] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: also, try with ssh -vvv
[22:36] <wabash> With PAE, if I do lsusb, it picksup the device, and adds a /dev/ entry
[22:36] <wabash> Then I have to mount manually.
[22:36] <wabash> dajhorn: thanks!
[22:36] <wabash> dajhorn: It's still not as nice, becaues now I have to go look at mount options to see what I need
[22:37] <nogo> Rohanc: i don't really know. nothing can stop me every time. i am lucky
[22:37] <wabash> The plugdev or whatever it was set everything up correctly.
[22:37] <wabash> dajhorn: Anyhow, thank you for stepping me through stuff earlier.
[22:37] <dajhorn> wabash: That kind of bug will cause a lot of complaining at Launchpad.   They'll probably fix it soon.
[22:37] <wabash> Yes, it's on there already.  I'm so frustrated with it now.. u know i'm just 1 day user of ubuntu, i'm loving it already.. it's fast and beautiful.. except for the fact that it gives me black screens now and then
[22:38] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: i do use ssh key all the time
[22:39] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: but you said it prompts for password...
[22:39] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: and ssh -vvv: it just hangs at debug2: shell request accepted on channel 0
[22:39] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: hmm
[22:39] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: can you pastebin the full thing?
[22:39] <ChrisBuchholz> i thought i used ssh-keys then :D
[22:39] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: are user homes encrypted?
[22:40] <dajhorn> wabash: This could be your bug.  It is tagged as a PAE regression.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/626753
[22:41] <wabash> dajhorn: Yes, looks like it!
[22:41] <wabash> dajhorn: So, I think a lot of ppl will be unhappy about this. What kind of turnaround is typical?
[22:42] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: no they are not. http://pastebin.com/k058iWm7
[22:42] <dajhorn> wabash: The generic kernel is installed by default, and I don't see any obvious duplicates, so probably a few weeks.   This bug may be forgotten because Maverick will release soon and most people will upgrade.
[22:43] <wabash> dajhorn: I don't follow then. Will Maverick not have this problem?
[22:43] <ChristineV> I have a question. I'm trying to install onto a netbook, and I had a solid install going, then tried to install another distro over it. The first one said it was rewriting the whole HD, but I keep getting bootmgr errors now (which is a windows thing) and can't boot from a USB or anything. is my only option to go and get an external CD drive to run fixboot in Windows? :(
[22:43] <dajhorn> wabash: Dunno.  If you try Maverick on this hardware, then try to post a comment on that bug.
[22:44] <wabash> Cool, I'll do it when Mav comes out.
[22:44] <dajhorn> wabash: Maverick becomes a Release Candidate today, so it is unlikely that anything significant will change between now and release on October 10th.
[22:45] <jrib> ChristineV: and if you type stuff it doesn't appear on the screen?
[22:45] <ChristineV> yeah
[22:45] <jrib> erm
[22:45] <rww> Considering that last release cycle, a major bug that broke dual boots got fixed after RC, that's not really true.
[22:45] <ChristineV> I was under the impression windows was completely gone, so I don't know why it's coming up
[22:45] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: and if you type stuff it doesn't appear on the screen?
[22:45] <rww> there's a release process for a reason, let it happen :(
[22:45] <ChristineV> was that meant to be for me? >_>
[22:45] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: it does appear on the screen
[22:45] <ChristineV> aw :(
[22:46] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: and "ls", enter does nothing?
[22:46] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: yeah, just goes to next line
[22:46] <st__> and memory leak in xorg too, lol
[22:46] <wabash> I would like to change my default boot OS, using grub 2. I miss menu.lst, it was so easy!
[22:46] <wabash> How do I change boot  defaults in grub2?
[22:47] <st__> wabash, rename desired OS template so it was coming first
[22:47] <wabash> st__: Can you elaborate?
[22:47] <jrib> ChrisBuchholz: weird.  See if changing the shell affects what happens.  "debug2: shell request accepted on channel 0" is the last thing I see on a successful ssh
[22:47] <wabash> What is the template?
[22:47] <omani> nogo, ok got it. the user was not in the "audio" group :D
[22:47] <st__> wabash, OS prober scripts in /etc/grub.d
[22:47] <omani> thx though
[22:48] <wabash> st__: Ok, with you so far.
[22:48] <wabash> Right,
[22:48] <wabash>  but what do I do to them?
[22:48] <ChrisBuchholz> jrib: thats odd
[22:48] <ChrisBuchholz> hmm, well, okay, thanks for the help. I need to grab dinner now!
[22:48] <st__> wabash, rename so they had proper order
[22:49] <docsy> if something never installed correctly, whats the command to remove the attempt?
[22:49] <xcyclist> Sorry.  I was called away.  Is there a way to get my network cfg icon back on my top bar?
[22:49] <xcyclist> I don't see it in the options menu.
[22:49] <jrib> !away > Liammm|AFK
[22:49] <wabash> st__: Thanks, but I don't think that helps. I've got 3 linux kernels, won't they all be grouped unter one script?
[22:49] <sabayonweb_97591> so would I
[22:49] <hdgc> finally solved my problem with the bug libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Device or resource busy
[22:50] <hdgc> the problem was caused by CamServer
[22:50] <st__> wabash, then you need to look inside them and change how they are ordered
[22:50] <cryptk|work> ok, I have a question for you guys
[22:50] <cryptk|work> I have a persistent live CD
[22:50] <cryptk|work> I cannot get the screen lock to work
[22:50] <st__> like 10-linux or seomething
[22:50] <xcyclist> I cannot even get on any of my normal wireless areas anymore, and my pidgeon blue dot disappeared too.
[22:50] <cryptk|work> I know why, the RUNNING_UNDER_GDM env variable
[22:50] <wabash> st__: Are you saying that the 10_linux script has entries for all linux kernels?
[22:50] <cryptk|work> but I cannot find where that is being set at bootup
[22:51] <sabayonweb_97591> why is it the images on web pages dont display as well in ubuntu as opsed in windoes once you zoom in ?
[22:51] <cryptk|work> does anyone have any idea what would be setting tha env variable?
[22:51] <st__> wabash, it looks for linux kernels on your machine, and put them in list in some order
[22:52] <wabash> st__: Correct. And what I'd like to do is rearrange that order.
[22:52] <st__> sabayonweb_97591, different browser?
[22:52] <st__> wabash, or maybe there's default index oprion in /etc/defaults/grub?
[22:53] <sabayonweb_97591> firefox
[22:53] <sabayonweb_97591> but its the same with other linux browsers
[22:53] <wabash> st__: Yeah, reading that file now. I can set default pretty easily by filename.
[22:53] <wabash> st__: But no order listing,
[22:53] <st__> then customize that awful script
[22:54] <sabayonweb_97591> damn my house is bugged
[22:55] <Ekips> Heya, is /bin/ed part of the default ubuntu 10.04.1 server installation?
[22:55] <flashkidd> how can i downgrade transmission to 1.93?
[22:55] <jrib> Ekips: should be...
[22:55] <Roasted> anybody know how to get frostwire 64 bit on ubuntu 64 bit? I used to just go to the web site but now its barking at me
[22:55] <donpdonp> when i leave current workspace, then come back to the same workspace, the window focus is lost. it used to work but mysteriously broke. any ideas?
[22:55] <sabayonweb_97591> who would do such thing ?
[22:55] <jrib> Roasted: define "barking"
[22:55] <Roasted> jrib, wrong architecture error
[22:55] <jrib> Roasted: what exactly did you download?
[22:56] <Roasted> frostwire from the web site. i586 deb.
[22:56] <st__> i586!=amd64
[22:56] <flashkidd> how can I install version 1.93 of transmissionbt?
[22:56] <Roasted> if 586 = 64 bit, why is mine bombing out?
[22:57] <nuestra> 586 is 32 bit
[22:57] <dajhorn> Roasted:  != means "not equal" or "different"
[22:57] <sabayonweb_97591> roasted is a poser
[22:57] <st__> i586<>amd64
[22:57] <ikonia> Roasted: it doesn't
[22:57] <aeon-ltd> i586?
[22:57] <Roasted> oh
[22:57] <Roasted> okay, so how can I get frostwire installed?
[22:57] <aeon-ltd> as the name implies x86 is 32bit x64 is 64bit
[22:57] <ikonia> Roasted: x86 is 32bit, x64 x86_64=64bit
[22:57] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: lol
[22:57] <ikonia> !info frostwire
[22:58] <ikonia> I thought there was a frostwire package
[22:58] <Blue1> Roasted: try this    if grep -q ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo; then echo "is 64 bits"; else "No luck  "; fi
[22:58] <Roasted> ikonia, theres a deb for it, but its not in a repo or anything - its a direct DL from their site.
[22:58] <Roasted> is 64 bits
[22:58] <Roasted> jason@Area51:~$
[22:58] <Blue1> Roasted: eggsalad!
[22:59] <Blue1> Roasted: do a   uname -a and post results here.
[22:59] <jrib> Roasted: the package they have there says it's for i386
[22:59] <Roasted> Linux Area51 2.6.32-24-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 16 14:58:24 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:59] <Roasted> jrib, I had frostwire on 10.04 64 bit. I got a new hard drive, reinstalled ubuntu 10.04 64 bit, and it wont work now.
[22:59] <ikonia> Roasted: ok, so your running 64bit
[22:59] <Roasted> It WORKED before. I am absolutely positive of it.
[22:59] <jrib> Roasted: they may have changed the package
[22:59] <st__> i[3456]86 architecture has no 64-bit mode
[22:59] <ikonia> Roasted: so the 64bit deb should work if it's dependencies are compatible
[23:00] <Roasted> ikonia, but why is it when I click DL I get 586?
[23:00] <Roasted> I dont see a 64 bit option. theres only 1 optionf or ubuntu.
[23:01] <ikonia> Roasted: there is only a 32bit version - it's not compatible
[23:01] <nuestra> could frostwire run in a 32-bit chroot?
[23:01] <Blue1> Roasted: you can force install a 32 bit app, but not recommend.
[23:01] <Roasted> ikonia, I had frostwire with 64 bit just days ago. I'm absolutely positive of it.
[23:01] <Roasted> I still have that install on my old hard drive.
[23:01] <sabayonweb_97591> roested easy just download the sorce and compile it
[23:01] <jrib> since frostwire is a java app, I imagine this is some sort of packaging mistake.  That's only a guess though
[23:01] <ikonia> Roasted: not from the official site you didn't, unless they changed/pulled it
[23:02] <Roasted> ikonia, yes, from the official site.
[23:02] <jrib> Roasted: well you could probably use the deb you have on your old install then
[23:02] <Roasted> virtualbox, skype, an d frostwire are the 3 things I use not in the repos. I go to the site, download the deb, and bingo bango.
[23:02] <ikonia> Roasted: not anymore, they don't offer a 64bit package
[23:02] <tgywa> Hello ... Hello ... can any one suggest me a good resource to read ... in configuring Postfix to work with CyrusSasl?
[23:02] <Roasted> never had an issue before, and I've ran 64 bit for the last 2 years.
[23:02] <Roasted> that's great - I'm just trying to stress that it *was* working before.
[23:02] <ikonia> tgywa: the ubuntu wiki and forums are a good place to start
[23:02] <Roasted> this feels like 2008 when I first began fighting with this
[23:03] <ikonia> Roasted: and I'm just trying to stress to you that it's no longer going to work, so it doesn't matter that it "did" work
[23:04] <sabayonweb_97591> is 64 bits is the por child of software
[23:04] <ikonia> sabayonweb_97591: what ?
[23:04] <Rotham> whats the diff between regular ubuntu and ubuntu server?
[23:04] <adac> Wonderiing is there any possibility besides vnc, so that i can view the terminal of a remote user and what he does input in that terminal?
[23:04] <jrib> Rotham: different kernel, no X
[23:04] <Rotham> whats X?
[23:04] <jrib> Rotham: gui
[23:04] <Roasted> GUI
[23:04] <ikonia> Roasted: one is aimed at enterprise server hardware with a minimal base install for server services, the other is a desktop, that also makes a good server
[23:05] <Roasted> tab fail :P
[23:05] <Rotham> ahh k
[23:05] <ikonia> Roasted: totally
[23:05] <donpdonp> adac: vnc is the only one i know of
[23:06] <sabayonweb_97591> why is it that you have amd 64 distros but noe intel 64 distros ?
[23:06] <st__> OT: why linux-image-virtual has no AC97 driver?
[23:06] <tgywa> ikonia, thanks
[23:06] <ikonia> st__: if it's offtopic, why are you asking
[23:06] <Andorin> So the left side of my screen extends past the edge of my monitor by a few pixels... I'm on 10.04, 64-bit, 1440x900 resolution. Anyone know why it's doing this?
[23:06] <Random832> how the heck did i end up in #ubuntu-unregged in the first place? i identify on connect
[23:06] <rww> sabayonweb_97591: Intel x86_84 is the same as AMD64.
[23:06] <jrib> sabayonweb_97591: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[23:07] <andre_pl> Random832: same happened to me
[23:07] <sabayonweb_97591> does 64 bits linux work better on AMD ?
[23:07] <andre_pl> maybe something broken
[23:07] <ikonia> sabayonweb_97591: no
[23:07] <rww> Random832: because your client doesn't wait long enough after autoidentifying before autojoining channels.
[23:07] <st__> sabayonweb_97591, they have same instruction set
[23:07] <Random832> rww: i autoidentify with the server password, no wait should be necessary
[23:07] <jrib> Random832: nickserv is slower than your client
[23:07] <rww> Random832: well, it is. Yay freenode.
[23:07] <st__> is it normal for processor to be in system calls 60% of time?
[23:08] <sabayonweb_97591> 64bits is just like ipv6 its never going to happen
[23:08] <Random832> do people get forwarded to -unregged for other reasons [i.e. if the channel has a joinflood limit or something]?
[23:08]  * jrib adds to quotes
[23:08] <Scunizi> Anyone know of a semi decent pdf markup package outside of PDFEdit which is (probably very capable) but horribly archaic in design
[23:09] <st__> it's ~3% in usermode, 60% in system calls and 40% idle, are those numbers OK?
[23:09] <ikonia> sabayonweb_97591: please don't talk nonsense
[23:09] <Blue1> Scunizi: if you find one, let us know.
[23:09] <ikonia> sabayonweb_97591: 64bit is in production use and has been for many years
[23:09] <TeLe{K}> Scunizi: have you tried xournal?
[23:09] <Scunizi> Blue1: seems to be a lack there.. PDF Shuffle is decent for ripping out or merging pages/docs..
[23:09] <sabayonweb_97591> so is ipv6
[23:09] <st__> i was shocked to know I have 64 bit processor after 3 years
[23:10] <ikonia> st__: what's making the system calls, or at least the common ones
[23:10] <st__> ikonia, how am I to know it?
[23:10] <Scunizi> TeLe{K}: I had forgotten about that.. do the edits stick?
[23:10] <ikonia> st__: see what's eating the cpu with basic tools like top
[23:10] <tyme> Enter text here...hey
[23:10] <sabayonweb_97591> 64bits just uses more ram and even 64bits distros are bigger !
[23:10] <ikonia> st__: %60 in use at idle sounds off in a big way
[23:11] <x0rs_ha> Anyone know why sometimes in Ubuntu (or linux in general) I will boot up and something will be wrong with my system, like my wireless network card won't work or none of my windows will have borders and then after I reboot, the problem is fixed... Anyone else have that issue?
[23:11] <churl> what packages do I need to apt-get to make an ubuntu install into UNE?
[23:11] <rww> churl: ubuntu-netbook, I think
[23:11] <tyme> i'm not getting any sound online
[23:12] <Braber01> is it worth learning the TCshell? I'm more familer with the Born Again Shell however the TCShell has a syntax I'm more familer with.
[23:12] <iooner> I eat an apple !
[23:12] <tyme> anyone?
[23:12] <st__> it's 40% audacity2 and 10% Xorg...
[23:12] <iooner> I eat an apple !
[23:12] <churl> rww: there's also ubuntu-netbook-remix and their about the same size if not the same
[23:12] <rww> churl: ubuntu-netbook-remix is a transition package to ubuntu-netbook, if I recall correctly.
[23:12] <ikonia> st__: %10 xorg can happen, %40 audacity sounds high, but at the same tim it can be a busy app
[23:13] <churl> rww: meaning I dont need to bother with that one? :)
[23:13] <tyme> pls???
[23:13] <rww> churl: correct, just use ubuntu-netbook
[23:13] <churl> rww: thanks! and dog bless
[23:13] <tyme> i'm a linux newbie
[23:13] <rww> churl: "transitional" means we used to use ubuntu-netbook-remix, but it got changed, and the old package is still around to point people to the new one.
[23:14] <tyme> pls pls pls pls pls
[23:14] <ikonia> tyme: calm down please
[23:14] <ikonia> tyme: if someone knows the answer, they will help when they can
[23:14] <tyme> uhm thank u, thank u, thank u?
[23:15] <TeLe{K}> tyme: whats your problem?
[23:15] <tyme> no sound in flash videos
[23:15] <Scott__2> hi all. i'm trying to install ubuntu desktop amd64. i've got an ati radeon 5770 and everytime i load the installer, from usb or cd, 10.10 or 10.04.1, i just get a black screen after it's finished booting which i guess is a display issue. any ideas? i've done a search and found a few people with similar probs with 5770 but can't find any solutions
[23:16] <st__> Scott__2, disable KMS?
[23:16] <Braber01> um is it worth learning the TCShell? it has a syntax I'm more familer with however I'm confortable with the Born Again Shell
[23:16] <Psycho> does anyone feel like hleping a noob with ktorrent?
[23:17] <TeLe{K}> tyme: do you use 64?
[23:17] <mattgyver> Braber01, I would suggest bash unless there are specific features you require in tsch, especially if your familiar with it
[23:17] <tyme> yup @Tle
[23:17] <naerey> what does $linux/wirless/.. mean as a path? the $ = ?
[23:17] <Braber01> mattgyver: thanks :)
[23:17] <Gadgetwizard> i need some help
[23:18] <Gadgetwizard> im running ubuntu on an old ibook
[23:18] <Scott__2> st__, thx - how would i do that?
[23:18] <TeLe{K}> tyme: im not familiar with that, sorry i think its because of the new flashplugin
[23:18] <st__> Scott__2, no idea actually
[23:18] <tyme> k, thanks anywyz
[23:19] <tyme> it worked once, then idk wat happened
[23:19] <bangie1> gadgetwizard, why dont you continue?
[23:19] <mattgyver> Scott__2, you could probably try booting with the no acpi boot option by pressing f6 at the 'try ubuntu' screen
[23:19] <Psycho> grr everytime i try to dl a torrent it just says "stalled
[23:20] <Scott__2> mattgyver, ahhh f6, thanks, that's all i needed, couldn't work that out - cheers, will give it a shot
[23:20] <KGF2009> Can anyone suggest how one would turn an MKV file into an H.264 MP4?
[23:20] <Scott__2> brb
[23:20] <drbutt> Psycho, with transmission?
[23:20] <mattgyver> Scott__2, to disable KMS as st__ suggested thats actually a boot option as well, use 'nomodeset'
[23:20] <ikonia> KGF2009: mencoder ?
[23:20] <aquarat> ffmpeg
[23:20] <Psycho> im using ktorrent
[23:20] <aquarat> ffmpeg, but you'd need to compile it yourself?
[23:20] <Psycho> if thats what you mean drbutt
[23:21] <drbutt> yeah
[23:21] <KGF2009> ikonia, how would I use mencoder?
[23:21] <ikonia> aquarat: why would he need to compile it ?
[23:21] <aquarat> because ubuntu's ffmpeg is crippled due to licensing issues
[23:21] <ikonia> KGF2009: it's got a pretty big feature option set, check the web page for all the options
[23:21] <drbutt> i got mine to stop stalling when I used "recommended settings" or something
[23:21] <ikonia> aquarat: in what way ?
[23:21] <Psycho> yeah i just had the ip reset
[23:21] <aquarat> ubuntu's ffmpeg (and VLC) will not output H264 or AAC
[23:22] <aquarat> there are probably other formats that it won't do but those are the ones I've noticed
[23:22] <ikonia> aquarat: I'll have to look at that, I didn't know
[23:22] <Psycho> i remember this happend once before but i cant remember where or how i fixed it
[23:22] <aquarat> besides...
[23:22] <aquarat> it's easy to compile ffmpeg
[23:22] <aquarat> very nice guide on the forums on it
[23:22] <aquarat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095
[23:23] <fede> Hi
[23:23] <st__> is there some simple utility to choose timezone and tell whether clock are using local time?
[23:24] <fede> Is there a place where I can find out what free software proyects need colaborators
[23:24] <BlaDe^> Hi guys, I know this is a long shot.. but I have a remote for vista which controlled media player and stuff
[23:24] <fede> I like to help the comunity on the design aspect
[23:24] <BlaDe^> is there any chance I could get it working with rhythmbox somehow? if there's a lib which will aid me, I'm versed in a few languages to complete the rest
[23:24] <ikonia> fede: sourceforce
[23:25] <st__> *forge
[23:25] <warpool> is anyone here rocking backtrack?
[23:25] <s0l1dsnak3123> hey guys, i've done something hilariously stupid: I deleted the kernel package in synaptic, as well as the headers, then rebooted (ubuntu NBR) How can I re-install the kernel through a live USB?
[23:25]  * KGF2009 didn't even know we had a 10.10 already.
[23:25] <ikonia> warpool: not in this channel please
[23:25] <st__> gt.o with that hacker sruff
[23:25] <fede> thanks ikonia
[23:26] <ikonia> st__: be polite please.
[23:26] <donpdonp> KGF2009: crazy isnt it.
[23:26] <KGF2009> I feel like I just got used to Lynx.
[23:26] <aquarat> lol
[23:26] <aquarat> Lynx is great :)
[23:26] <BlaDe^> lynx broke my wifi :(
[23:27] <KGF2009> I'm sticking with it for a bit still.
[23:28] <Scunizi> Blue1: TeLe{K} xournal worked like a champ.. easy interface and export to PDF.. could use a little refinement but overall *MUCH* better than PDFEdit
[23:29] <s0l1dsnak3123> can anyone give me a handy hint on how to get this fixed?
[23:29] <DragonKeeper> how do i install a finger print scanner in 10.04
[23:30] <TeLe{K}> s0l1dsnak3123: i have done that, it isnt easy to recover, but posible, you have to boot with an usb an chroot to the installed system, then install the kernel and reboot
[23:30] <st__> ^ what he said
[23:31] <s0l1dsnak3123> TeLe{K}, I'm on usb, but the devices seem busy, and aren't showing up... how can i figure out why?
[23:31] <st__> s0l1dsnak3123, because you have open directories on them or have them mounted?
[23:31] <TeLe{K}> s0l1dsnak3123: what devices? can you be a little mor specific please?
[23:32] <s0l1dsnak3123> st__, TeLe{K}, apologies, I mean the harddrive's partition I want to chroot into, sda, appears to be "busy", yet umounting it says it's not mounted. It's not appearing in unity
[23:32] <BlaDe^> does ubuntu have infra-red drivers ?
[23:33] <ikonia> BlaDe^: yes
[23:33] <BlaDe^> how can I access the data? I have a media remote I want to get working with rhythmbox
[23:33] <TeLe{K}> s0l1dsnak3123: try to umount with -l   i thinks thats lazy umount, that would force to umount
[23:33] <ikonia> BlaDe^: research "lirc"
[23:33] <BlaDe^> ok thanks
[23:34] <s0l1dsnak3123> st__, TeLe{K}, umount: /dev/sda: not munted
[23:34] <s0l1dsnak3123> *mounted
[23:34] <s0l1dsnak3123> (with the -l flag)
[23:36] <ikonia> s0l1dsnak3123: you unmount a file system, not a device
[23:36] <ikonia> solarswordsman: eg: umount /mnt, not umount /dev/sda
[23:36] <TeLe{K}> s0l1dsnak3123: ok then, so you have to mount it and then mount /dev  /proc   /sys  and /boot  if it is on a different partition, there are a lot of tutorials out there showing how to chroot
[23:36] <s0l1dsnak3123> st__, TeLe{K}, >_>
[23:36] <s0l1dsnak3123> its late here, it's showing :P
[23:37] <s0l1dsnak3123> st__, TeLe{K}, ok i have it mounted, time to chroot :)
[23:39] <jon_> Hey everyone, I'm giving an old ubuntu laptop to a friend, and I was wondering if anyone knew a way to delete one's own username and add a fresh one, giving it sudo privileges and all
[23:39] <s0l1dsnak3123> st__, TeLe{K}, brb, i think i'll have it from here, thanks!! :)
[23:39] <TeLe{K}> s0l1dsnak3123: no prob, have a great day
[23:39] <st__> jon_, admins group or something like that defines who can use sudo by default
[23:39] <jrib> jon_: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups, create a new account, give him administrative rights, delete your old account (using the new account)
[23:40] <TeLe{K}> jon_: you have to add our new user to sudoers file
[23:40] <jon_> Cool, I'll give that a try, thanks
[23:42] <st__> can I delete sudo backdoor from my machine leaving gksu?
[23:42] <glaucous> Is there an application where I can log all read/writes on a partition to RAM, and then view them?
[23:44] <BlaDe^> ikonia:  lircd.org is dead --- i can't find any other documentation.
[23:45] <BlaDe^> I've installed it but not sure how to configure, nothing in terminal either (lircd doesn't have a --help)
[23:45] <BlaDe^> well, it does but nothing that helps much
[23:46] <TeLe{K}> BlaDe^: try to find a .conf on /etc   or maybe a hidden file on ~/.lirc  maybe
[23:47] <st__> BlaDe^, you can peruse source
[23:47] <TeLe{K}> BlaDe^: almost all the times the .conf file comes with a very specific explanation of how to configure each option
[23:47] <obrown> Hi everyone, I've set up a shared folder in my virtual box to use in windows XP but when I try to add it in win xp, it can not find share
[23:47] <BlaDe^> st__:  pursue? that'll be a huge amount of time spent.. Most of it will be interaction between different hardware
[23:48] <st__> obrown, never had such problem, are you sure you're on last version of additions
[23:48] <PCChris> Upgrading 9.04 to 9.10 hangs on terminal line "update-alternatives: using /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/ibus to provide /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/zh_SG (xinput-zh_SG) in auto mode.
[23:48] <BlaDe^> TeLe{K}:  the conf is VERY bare
[23:48] <obrown> st__: I use virtualbox 3.2.8
[23:49] <obrown> st__: It says Oracle VM VirtualBox
[23:49] <TeLe{K}> BlaDe^: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LIRC   try this wiki
[23:50] <st__> had you installed all required drivers in XP when was installing additions?
[23:50] <HexLaTor> guys, if i download the ubuntu 10.10 RC version, i could update it to the final version later or not ?
[23:50] <thursday> setup up wireless 3g on my ubuntu desktop this morning. I can't access anything google.. thats odd.. is it just me?
[23:50] <st__> HexLaTor, it's auto
[23:50] <st__> HexLaTor, you may already have it as final version
[23:51] <HexLaTor> st__, i asked guys before, they say that i can't ..so i'm confused
[23:51] <PCChris> Upgrading 9.04 to 9.10 hangs on terminal line "update-alternatives: using /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/ibus to provide /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/zh_SG (xinput-zh_SG) in auto mode.
[23:51] <ron85> hey everyone
[23:51] <st__> HexLaTor, now only new thing since RC is bugfixes... but they will be after official release too...
[23:51] <obrown> st__: When I installed win xp in the virtual box, I don't remember anything asking me to install additional driver, did I miss it ?
[23:52] <st__> obrown, after installing xp when you install additions it warns you about unsigned drivers
[23:52] <ron85> obrown: you ahve to mount the vbox driver cd
[23:52] <HexLaTor> st__, Ok buddy..thanks
[23:52] <Lenhix> Hi. I just used a 10.04 CD to try Ubuntu and it's asking me for user and password to log in. There is no clue about the user and/or password and ubuntu:ubuntu doesn't work. Neither blank credentials. Not a good point for Ubuntu
[23:52] <Lenhix> Does anyone know the credentials?
[23:53] <emanu> can I create a linux filesystem on a usb key and boot a portable linux installation on it?
[23:53] <ikonia> Lenhix: doesn't sound like it's an official ubuntu CD
[23:53] <Lenhix> It is, I downloaded it from ubuntu.com
[23:53] <obrown> st__ , ron85, can you tell me the steps I need to do please ?
[23:53] <ikonia> Lenhix: re-download it, check the md5sums
[23:53] <ikonia> Lenhix: it should do an auto login
[23:54] <Lenhix> I know, previous versions did
[23:54] <ikonia> maybe a bad download/burn , try it again and use a different mirror
[23:54] <ron85> I've got an i3 processor in one of my ubuntu 10.04 dev servers and its reading the temps wrong. sensors is showing the f as c and the system keeps giving me cpu is over threshold, yata yata yata. Make a long story short its says my cpu is 128.0c and my mb is 34c not only is that insane but my pc would of turned off at around 95c. Anyone run into this b4?
[23:54] <bivo> Can't get past grub after today's updates on my Wubi UNR install
[23:54] <kaizoku> wc
[23:54] <kaizoku> whoops
[23:55] <snake> i'm having a problem with torrenting stuff/
[23:55] <blakkheim> bivo: don't use wubi
[23:55] <ikonia> ron85: no, log a bug against the sensors package your using
[23:55] <Lenhix> Well.. it's too lucky that I got a bad download/burn and still the CD works.. but well
[23:55] <Lenhix> Will download it again..
[23:55] <Lenhix> C u
[23:55] <ikonia> Lenhix: it can happen, if you check the forum this does happen sometimes
[23:55] <nogo> ron85: my cpu is 30c, it's too hot
[23:55] <nogo> s/30c/38c
[23:56] <ron85> obrown: open vm hit devices then its the last options, did you even looks. sry but its kinda obvious.
[23:56] <bivo> blakkheim am I completely boned now? data unrecoverable?
[23:56] <ron85> obrown: shortcut leftctrl+d then if autorun doesn't kick in
[23:56] <ron85> look in my computer right click cdrom and hit autorun
[23:56] <ron85> good luck
[23:56] <st__> obrown, open Devices menu and choose Install Gust Additions, then open CDROM :)
[23:57] <ron85> ron85: yeah my actual is around 58c or something, but my cpu is 128F, which is around midrange
[23:57] <TeLe{K}> bivo: no you are not, theres a way to mount your wubi partition, i think is something like when you mount an iso drive, google it
[23:57] <ron85> nogo: verbatum
[23:57] <ron85> nogo:CPU Temperature:  +128.0°C  (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)
[23:57] <ron85> nogo:MB Temperature:    +34.0°C  (high = +55.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)
[23:58] <st__> it's 128 C really?
[23:58] <snake> i'm having a problem with torrenting stuff. every once in a while it tells me that the tracker did not respond. this has happened for several torrents. i'm using Transmission 1.93, and i am having the error with: http://tracker.openbittorrent.com/announce and, http://tracker.thepiratebay.org/announce
[23:58] <TeLe{K}> bivo: im not sure how to fix your actual wubi, depending on the error
[23:58] <nogo> ron85: be careful, when evething is getting older...
[23:58] <aloon> I have a frustrating problem ... no x to close or minimize any window , can anyone give me a clue how to get ability to x out of any window back ? much appreciated
[23:58] <st__> aloon, metacity --replace &
[23:59] <holmser> I am trying to stream using VLC, and it keeps giving me this error: It seems your FFMPEG (libavcodec) installation lacks the following encoder:
[23:59] <holmser> MPEG AAC Audio.
[23:59] <aloon> thanks st , i'll try
[23:59] <holmser> any ideas how to fix this?
[23:59] <ron85> nogo: yeah i'm still on stock cooling, its was a freebie might invest the 20 bucks on decent cooling.
[23:59] <ron85> thanks for the help i'll log the bug later tonight


[00:29] <pwnguin> huh, neat wiki page
[00:29] <pwnguin> i was just building kernel.org git and wondering what half the crap was
[00:29] <pwnguin> PAT is in .25 as "experimental" i think
[00:30] <bryce> pwnguin: :-)
[00:30] <pwnguin> most of it i left off because its been ages since i built my own kernel and i just wanted to turn on a simple debug option for MMC
[00:32] <bryce> mmm, I can reproduce the "picks vesa instead of ati" bug
[00:33] <pwnguin> how DOES x pick which driver to include?
[00:34] <bryce> indeed, something I want to understand more deeply
[00:35] <bryce> until now I had *thought* it was based on pci id's, but this particular card I'd tested on another mboard with no probs
[00:36] <pwnguin> id just like to see how hard it is to change it from nv to nouveau on my machine
[00:36] <bryce> pwnguin: is it not listening to what you specify in xorg.conf?
[00:36] <pwnguin> it is
[00:37] <pwnguin> but theres a small chance the nouveau package could set it up by default ;
[00:37] <pwnguin> )
[00:38] <pwnguin> is dexconf encouraged?
[00:38] <bryce> we're trying to move away from using that
[00:38] <pwnguin> thats what i thought
[00:39] <pwnguin> there's a small thread on a wacom bug about the removal of wacom from the default xorg (and the removal of xorg.conf itself)
[00:39] <pwnguin> and somehow dexconf came up
[00:39] <bryce> yep, I know that one
[00:39] <pwnguin> meanwhile, i think wacom upstream supports autodetection or something
[00:40] <bryce> requires input hotplug
[00:41] <pwnguin> hmm
[02:47] <bryce> tjaalton: do we still need to be updating discover-data?  That's obsolete now as far as we're concerned, isn't it?
[05:37] <tjaalton> bryce: right, no need for it now
[05:37] <tjaalton> anymore
[05:43] <bryce> ok
[16:32] <seb128> bah, the xrandr capplet still has issues
[16:33] <seb128> hum, I reassigned a bug about a similar issue to xorg some days ago I think I can't find it now
[16:34] <seb128> I can't enable 2 screens using it on my laptop
[16:34] <seb128> some user comments that he had to tweak the xorg.conf to allow a virtual desktop going to 3000 or something, does something knows where the bug has been reassigned? ;-)
[16:49] <seb128> bryce: around?
[17:55] <bryce> yes
[18:10] <seb128> bryce: any idea about my question? I've the same issue on D630, no way to enable the laptop and an external screen together
[18:20] <tjaalton> seb128: even clone mode doesn't work?
[18:26] <seb128_> re
[18:27] <tjaalton> seb128: so not even clone mode works?
[18:27] <seb128_> trying, I just plugged the screen on my laptop again
[18:27] <bryce> seb128: right, to allow for >2048x2048 you must set the Virtual line in xorg.conf
[18:27] <seb128_> that's the warning I get
[18:28] <seb128_> rw_crtc_set_config: assertion `x + mode->width <= info->max_width' failed
[18:28] <seb128_> the clone mode "works"
[18:29] <seb128_> it tries to activate both screens but the external monitor displays a out of sync
[18:29] <seb128_> where it's a 19" lcd which should handle easily the 1024x768 60Hz selected
[18:30] <seb128_> bryce: could we bump this limitation? because that means almost nobody will get the 2 screens mode working right now
[18:30] <seb128_> I doubt many people use < 1024
[18:30] <bryce> no, it's a hard limit
[18:30] <seb128_> "hard"?
[18:30] <seb128_> that's not closed source code, is it?
[18:31] <bryce> hard == requires a bunch of new kernel code
[18:31] <seb128_> I mean we can change the code and rebuild no?
[18:31] <bryce> no
[18:31] <seb128_> urg
[18:31] <bryce> hardware limit
[18:31] <bryce> the hardware has a fixed framebuffer size which varies from card to card but is typically 2048x2048
[18:31] <seb128_> in the bug I read this week the guy said he was using a virtual size in the xorg.conf and that was working for him I think
[18:31] <jcristau> bryce: not really
[18:32] <seb128_> I start thinking using this capplet is an error
[18:32] <seb128_> dual screen doesn't work due to hardware limitations
[18:32] <jcristau> the problem with > 2048x2048 on intel is that you don't get any acceleration
[18:32] <seb128_> lot of drivers are buggy when using xrandr
[18:32] <jcristau> in < i965 i mean
[18:34] <bryce> jcristau: well, there's still a hardware limit for 2D, although it's up around 8k.  But the point is that the limit is not just a #define we can tweak without consequence
[18:34] <jcristau> bryce: 8k is plenty though :)
[18:34] <bryce> seb128, yeah I agree, I sort of wish we'd just gone back to manual configuration
[18:36] <jcristau> the bigger problem right now imo is that the framebuffer can't be resized at runtime
[18:36] <seb128_> ok, enabling 2 screens doesn't work even when under the 2048 limit
[18:36] <jcristau> seb128_: i suppose 'xrandr --auto' on the command line doesn't help?
[18:37] <jcristau> seb128_: the limit isn't 2048, it's whatever was allocated at server startup based on the connected outputs at the time
[18:37] <seb128_> hum, weird
[18:38] <seb128_> xrandr --auto activates the 2 screens, they have the same image though so I guess that's the equivalent of the clone mode in the capplet
[18:38] <seb128_> though they don't have the same resolution
[18:44] <seb128_> xrandr --properties lists 1 screen
[18:44] <seb128_> and LVDS and TMDS-1 being connected
[18:45] <jcristau> can you paste the output?
[18:48] <seb128_> jcristau: http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/xrandr
[18:48] <bryce> weird, why's it spitting out edid data?
[18:48] <jcristau> bryce: because the edid is a randr property
[18:48] <jcristau> so xrandr --prop shows that
[18:49] <seb128_> so xrandr --auto works better than this whole capplet thing which doesn't manage to enable both screens together
[18:50] <jcristau> seb128_: so, it looks like your laptop has a 1440x900 panel; which means that the server allocated a 1440x1440 fb (so you can rotate the panel)
[18:50] <seb128_> correct
[18:53] <jcristau> and now the fb can't be resized, so you're stuck with both monitors showing basically the same thing (except each has some part of the desktop which not on the other one :))
[18:53] <jcristau> that's the expected result right now, when you don't force the fb size in xorg.conf
[18:54] <seb128_> right
[18:54] <seb128_> the common part is correctly displayed
[18:54] <seb128_> the other portions are in a weird state
[18:54] <seb128_> like not refreshed or something
[18:55] <jcristau> hmm
[18:57] <seb128> and compiz seems to not like the xrandr resolution changes
[18:58] <jcristau> bad compiz
[19:25] <bryce> seb128: is that problem with intel or ati graphics?
[19:26] <seb128> intel 965
[19:26]  * bryce nods
[19:26] <bryce> I know what you're describing, I've seen that as well
[19:27] <bryce> did restarting the window manager make it go away?
[19:28] <seb128> I restarted the session