[12:00] <SuseUX> Skapare, :-)
[12:00] <ctw> thanks nalioth
[12:00] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: to get that same secure and "in control" feeling that way
[12:00] <lsuactiafner> Skapare : i think it is server grade, you just need to know what you're doing like with slackware
[12:00] <nalioth> Skapare: install the "server-install" when you boot the install cd
[12:00] <hwaara> What ubuntu package is the base installer in? The one where you install the ubuntu distro?
[12:00] <Mercutio150> guess noone knows much for ati
[12:00] <kevogod> Mercutio150, Ask your question again.
[12:01] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: for one thing (since I am a C coder) having the system running exactly from source code I have compiled gives me a warm and fuzzy knowing I can hack the code if I ever need to (and it has happened)
[12:01] <lsuactiafner> tho i think slackware insalls might be easier to keep under control, with a package manage you tend to install more than you want
[12:01] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: I don't even use slackware's installer anymore
[12:01] <Mercutio150> I have an ati radeon 7000 the display is messed up and I need to install the drivers, but I don't konw where to get them
[12:01] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: I wrote a script that takes the slackware package tree and builds the system in a subdirectory
[12:02] <nalioth> Skapare: lsuactiafner take the slack talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> go with slackware if you're installing it on a commerical server and run ubuntu desktops and place with ubuntu servers @ home till you know it well enough to knwo what you are doing
[12:02] <Skapare> lsuactiafner: then I can rsync that subdirectory to a target system ... and voila a new slackware box
[12:02] <lsuactiafner> Skapare : upload somewhere and priv me the link, am going afk
[12:03] <sambagirl> i jsut do fresh install of ubuntu but i cannot find xmms any reason for this/
[12:03] <Skapare> nalioth: I'm trying to connect this to Ubuntu ... I want to do these things in Ubuntu ... can you help?
[12:03] <cyborgcey> sound card trouble, I have compaq with a soundmax dose anyone know what driver I need to use to get sound
[12:03] <sambagirl> tjhis/
[12:03] <oxez> sambagirl: install it? sudo apt-get install xmms
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell sambagirl about xmms
[12:03] <nalioth> Skapare: join #ubuntu-motu
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> oxez : sources...
[12:03] <oxez> woops
[12:03] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell sambagirl about restricted
[12:03] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: wrong answer
[12:03] <holden> lsuactiafner, regarding the video codecs, I installed them and mplayer, but the second freezes the moment I hit play on any video
[12:04] <nalioth> sambagirl: "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> yeh i see..
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> holden : try mplayer -vo help
[12:04] <lsuactiafner> holden : but the mplayerdev will tell you to compile the CVS
[12:05] <TheRedCheese> when i try to install zend studio, i get some errors about missing library files ( http://rafb.net/paste/results/RNIZex49.html ) can anyone help to  install the missing files pelase?
[12:05] <_jason> holden:  did you setup esd sound for mplayer?
[12:05] <lsuactiafner> mplayer -ao esd might work
[12:05] <naw> I have tried all the drivers I can find for my fd57010 (broadcom) wireless nic.  I have also read all the howtos and faqs regaring this issue, but I am unable to find a driver that does not list at 'invalid driver' under ndiswrapper.  Can anyone suggest something else?
[12:05] <GNAM> how can I launch a program, and limit it at 20% cpu during execution?
[12:05] <Skapare> nalioth: you weren't there
[12:05] <holden> one at a time! lol, beginner here.
[12:05] <GNAM> asudausu
[12:06] <nalioth> Skapare: i'm not a -motu
[12:06] <lucaas> firefox crashes when i rightclick flash stuff :o
[12:06] <Skapare> nalioth: oh, sorry
[12:06] <GhostFreeman> I need help with Samba
[12:06] <nalioth> Skapare: there should have been quite a few folks, tho
[12:07] <Skapare> nalioth: I want to find a way to install Ubuntu into a subdirectory of an existing Linux system ... you aren't the one who would know how?
[12:07] <cyborgcey> ok I installed xmms it said I have the newest and nothing change any ideas
[12:07] <GhostFreeman> I am not able to access my /home/ folder from within Windows
[12:07] <johhny> cyborgcey: Try searching synaptic for beep-media-player
[12:07] <Skapare> nalioth: it was mostly quiet there
[12:07] <zrothe> How do you get glxgears to output fps data?
[12:07] <nalioth> Skapare: i can barely get online most days, no my technology knowledge isnt at a high level
[12:07] <nalioth> Skapare: like here, you ask a question in there and wait
[12:07] <johhny> cyborgcey: It is exactly the same as xmms except it uses the newer gtk2 so it fits in with the rest of your ubuntu desktop
[12:07] <holden> _jason : what's that esd sound and how to do so?
[12:08] <Skapare> nalioth: here it isn't just wait ... it's sift through all the talk for the answers :)
[12:08] <cyborgcey> I already have beep player
[12:09] <johhny> well why xmms?
[12:09] <Skapare> nalioth: the thing is, I see a few slackware people here ... and I was hoping they can relate Ubuntu experiences in Slackware terms as a faster way for me to come up to speed on Ubuntu
[12:09] <_jason> holden:  one sec let me find the file
[12:09] <cyborgcey> I have installed several of the drivers from soundmax's web site and nothing is working
[12:09] <Skapare> nalioth: but I suppose that's cheating ... but cheating is good
[12:09] <johhny> Skapare: Slackware, you do it yourself, ubuntu, it is already done for you
[12:09] <nalioth> Skapare: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[12:09] <jonbusby> hiya, anyone have any experience with the ipw2200 drivers getting monitor mode on ubuntu?
[12:09] <zrothe> Is using the nvidia given drivers going against recommendations?
[12:10] <Skapare> johhny: I C
[12:10] <_jason> holden:  sudo gedit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[12:10] <_jason> holden:  let me know when you're in there
[12:10] <jonbusby> ipw2200 1.0.6 getting monitor mode anyone?
[12:10] <mylastmorning> how do I get my ATI Video card to stop freezing on me?
[12:11] <hwaara> test
[12:11] <johhny> Skapare: You will find that ubuntu doesn't show you the guts of linux as much as slackware
[12:11] <Skapare> nalioth: so it's strictly a help channel here?
[12:11] <shutson_> Question: I have 3 HD's, 1 for Linux, 1 for WinXP, and 1 for data.  If I want to use 2 partitions on the data drive, 1 for each OS, should the linux data partition be primary?  I know that the ntfs data should be logical.
[12:11] <Ed_Gein> mylastmorning : you buy an Nvidia card
[12:11] <johhny> Skapare: You will also find yourself getting much more done in ubuntu than in slack
[12:11] <cyborgcey> I have some older soundcards could I install one and mybe get sound
[12:11] <amalthea> test
[12:11] <nalioth> Skapare: entry level help mostly
[12:11] <amalthea> test
[12:11] <_jason> holden:  actually before you edit it, make a backup copy
[12:11] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to remove GRUB?
[12:11] <Jaivaz> I'm having a big problem with Breezy. The far right side of the screen just..doesn't exist,libopenh323-1.15.3c2_1.15.6-1_i386.deb
[12:11] <Jaivaz>  can't install and even though it says I should do apt-get -f install that fixes nothing.
[12:12] <hwaara> test
[12:13] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to remove GRUB from booting up in a windows recover console?
[12:13] <Skapare> nalioth: it'll be hard to classify me ... entirely new to ubuntu ... been doing slackware since 1994 ... obviously some thing will be entry level for me ... many won't
[12:13] <nalioth> hwaara: is there something we can help you with?
[12:13] <holden> _jason: did the copy and opened it
[12:13] <anne> Hello.  Anyone seen the issue where the radeon driver doesn't detect their DVI connector?
[12:13] <Ed_Gein> what is it you are testing?
[12:13] <Skapare> nalioth: would #ubuntu-motu be more appropriate for the "install to a subdirectory" questions?
[12:13] <nalioth> Skapare: yes
[12:14] <hwaara> nalioth, sorry I'm unable to get highlighting of a specific nick in xchat working, do you know?
[12:14] <_jason> holden:   ok change the "vo" and "ao" lines to: "vo=xv," and "ao=esd,"
[12:15] <Ed_Gein> 84 updates bahhh
[12:16] <sambagirl> what optoisn i choose for xmms to play it?
[12:16] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to remove Grub loader in a Dos Console?
[12:16] <holden> _jason: done, and still, ice frozen.
[12:16] <holden> :(:(
[12:16] <dabaR> hi. what is that HAL thing anyhow?
[12:16] <johhny> fdisk /mbr
[12:16] <Mustard5> sambagirl, it shoud be in your applications menu
[12:16] <johhny> holden, fdisk /mbr
[12:16] <Mustard5> under sound
[12:16] <holden> johhny, shove it
[12:16] <sambagirl> nono there is output setting ineed changt in prefs but i forget now
[12:16] <_jason> holden:  what exactly happens
[12:16] <teeagoo> how i disable tty? i want only 2 text and one to run X?
[12:17] <Ed_Gein> how is the new BB release ?
[12:17] <holden> _jason: it just freezes up the second i hit play
[12:17] <_jason> holden:  you've tried different files?
[12:17] <johhny> holden, wtf is your problem? You asked how to remove grub. I told you.   It SHOULD be running
[12:18] <Mustard5> check your sound settings in XMMS preferences
[12:18] <ompaul> teeagoo, sudo nano /etc/inittab and do the deeds there - however i suggest you keep two text just in case
[12:18] <johhny> teeagoo: I wasn't asking. I know -9
[12:18] <Rotund> dabaR: Can you get to console?
[12:19] <Mustard5> sambagirl, you using esd or alsa?
[12:19] <_jason> holden:  you restarted mplayer after editing file right?
[12:19] <sambagirl> not sure
[12:19] <Rotund> dabaR: type "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:19] <Mustard5> check your preferences>mulitmedia support
[12:19] <concept10> could someone explain the purpose of a 'metapackage' like ubuntu-desktop - does this just pull in a group of packages?
[12:19] <Rotund> dabaR: That should fix it
[12:19] <holden> _jason: yep, done so with several files, differnet formats and all. Weird. Xmms and beep media player froze in a similar way (after hitting play), so I'm stuck with Music Player...
[12:19] <holden> _jason: yep :)
[12:20] <zrothe> Can someone assist me with getting the latest nvidia drivers installed?
[12:20] <zrothe> I'm following this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:21] <sambagirl> ah it works!
[12:21] <sambagirl> thank you
[12:21] <Mustard5> cool :D
[12:21] <sambagirl> now ont to icething
[12:21] <sambagirl> :)
[12:21] <Mustard5> np
[12:21] <nalioth> concept10: metpkgs depend on many packages. but individual pkgs dont depend on metapkgs
[12:21] <dabaR> Rotund: I use the openbox WM. I am now logged in. I run hoary. I am up to date as well. Recently I can not run xine, totem-xine(so I switched to gstreamer, which runs:-/) and my nautilus sometimes takes an eternity to load. yesterday, I tried logging into gnome, and got the HAL error, and could not log in. Now, I put in a cd, and it did not mount. I tried runing the gnome-volume-manager, so it told m,e HAL is not running.
[12:21] <_jason> holden: don't know then.  I had a similar problem like yours but setting up the esd sound fixed it for me.  Have you tried typing in terminal: mplayer filename.avi
[12:21] <Jaivaz> Has anyone else had trouble with libopenh?
[12:21] <teeagoo> ompaul, tkz
[12:22] <holden> _jason: setting up the esd sound thing is what we just did with those av=something and et=smthorother?
[12:22] <Rotund> dabaR: sudo hald
[12:22] <Skapare> so where can I get Ubuntu for Sparc?
[12:22] <Rotund> dabaR: did that fix it?
[12:22] <_jason> holden:  yeah, it just tells mplayer to use ESD
[12:23] <nalioth> Skapare: build it
[12:23] <dabaR> that gave no output, and...still same error on the gnome-volume manager.
[12:23] <Skapare> nalioth: someone on -motu said it already exists
[12:23] <ardya> hi
[12:23] <Mustard5> hi ardya
[12:23] <sambagirl> ok i think war between gnome and kde mess up my computer so i had to restart fresh
[12:23] <naw> http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/
[12:23] <ardya> whats the command to configure sound
[12:23] <naw> oops sorry
[12:24] <anethema> i just use gnome but have kde libs installed so i can run kde apps
[12:24] <anethema> no war needed
[12:24] <anethema> heheh
[12:24] <_jason> holden:  what was the name of the mplayer package you installed?
[12:24] <holden> _jason: and (lame question) I do have the esd thing installed or something?
[12:24] <naw> Does anyone here have extensive knowledge of ndiswrapper?
[12:24] <Mercutio> anyone tell me how to open my xorg.conf?
[12:24] <teeagoo> can i install xfree on Ubuntu? ( my pc is very slow, 500mhz 256ram)
[12:24] <concept10> nalioth, the reason I ask about metapackages:  I want to remove evolution, but evolution wants to remove beagle and ubuntu-desktop.. how do I get around this?
[12:24] <Mercutio> can't remember what to put between gedit and xorg.conf
[12:24] <holden> _jason: that one there ==> mplayer-386 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[12:24] <_jason> holden:  yeah esd is the sound daemon gnome uses
[12:24] <LasseL> the question is can you avoid installing xfree :p
[12:24] <anethema> Mercutio, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:25] <Mercutio> thank you
[12:25] <Mustard5> ardya, ask your question again
[12:25] <ardya> alsaconfig doesnt seem to exist, whats the command to configure sound?
[12:25] <frank23> what variable must I set to use gcc 3.4?  CC or something?
[12:25] <anethema> what do you mean 'configure' sound
[12:25] <nalioth> concept10: not sure. but dont sweat losing metapkgs
[12:25] <teeagoo> LasseL, how much xfree is more "quick" :)
[12:25] <_jason> holden:  I did install the -586 which is for pentiums... you can try that if you have a pentium
[12:26] <anethema> yeah i used k7
[12:26] <holden> i don't :(
[12:26] <holden> celeron m
[12:26] <LasseL> teeagoo, I think you could just do the default install and then change gnome for xfce and you'd be set
[12:26] <johhny> frank23. yes. export CC=/path/to/gcc3.4
[12:26] <anethema> holden, that counts :)
[12:26] <LasseL> teeagoo, 500mzh / 256mb isn't very small, it is half-bad
[12:26] <frank23> johhny: thanks!
[12:26] <holden> oh cool, :) gonna do so right now
[12:26] <_jason> holden:  yeah that's on the list
[12:26] <anethema> !faq
[12:26] <ubotu> from memory, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[12:27] <johhny> frank23: If you want that to be the default loaded when you login, put that in /home/yourusername/.bash_profile
[12:27] <teeagoo> LasseL, I use icewm :-) Opera and Xterm :-)
[12:27] <dabaR> Rotund: you got that right?
[12:27] <johhny> teeagoo: xfce is really nice
[12:28] <LasseL> teeagoo, go for it, i'd do it with the default and then "turning stuff off"
[12:28] <johhny> their new file manager thunar isn't bad either when I tested it out
[12:28] <frank23> johhny: ok, thanks
[12:28] <johhny> np
[12:29] <teeagoo> johhny, i got some problems using XFCE ( composite blah blah ... etc )
[12:29] <magio> How do I give permission to upload in vsftpd? I have permission to download..
[12:29] <LasseL> I am upgrading to breezy, how long can it take for it to Configure libc6 ? It seems it has been hanging on that status for 10 minutes
[12:29] <johhny> LasseL: Let it finish
[12:30] <johhny> If libc doesn't install correctly, your system will be beyone broken when you reboot
[12:30] <LasseL> aha, there is a console window with a question in it ..
[12:30] <bytefoo> yo, has anyone had any problems with breezy locking up when setting dma on for a dvd drive?
[12:30] <bytefoo> because i do :-/
[12:30] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul, twysted still not luck with my HD
[12:31] <johhny> teeagoo: You run composite under icewm? bwahahahaha
[12:31] <johhny> teeagoo: pretty drop shadows with an ugly window manager
[12:31] <magio> Does anyone know how I give permission to upload in vsftpd? I have permission to download..
[12:31] <ThePyromaniac> i tried reinstall but i t came up with same error message "No valide device! Press any ket to continue..." (with valide spelt wrong) and wouldnt work
[12:31] <hghfgh> hi guys im back!!
[12:31] <ThePyromaniac> on a web forum someone said it was their boards fault so RMAed it
[12:32] <Dekker4> hi,Here it is a lot of to people...
[12:32] <hghfgh> it worked perfectly
[12:32] <hghfgh> i just have 1 more question: where in the filesystem can i find my Windows partition??
[12:32] <ThePyromaniac> but that means i gotta send off my board, have no pc working, HOPE the board is wrong, if it is bugged they send me a replacement (2 weeks later) and if they decide its fine they charge me 113!
[12:32] <teeagoo> johhny, i dont, i remove, but, ammm, xfce dont run, just this, dont run ... :( but i like icewm, simple
[12:32] <ThePyromaniac> 13*
[12:33] <hghfgh> i searched for the longest time and couldnt find anything
[12:33] <GhostFreeman> I can't access my Samba share
[12:33] <johhny> teeagoo: You tried xfce from apt?
[12:33] <GhostFreeman> I get the error: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[12:33] <holden> _jason: thanks for the help -- didnt work :(:(
[12:33] <teeagoo> johhny,  yep
[12:33] <_jason> holden:  want to try one more thing?
[12:34] <johhny> teeagoo: And you selected it under session on login?
[12:34] <hghfgh> does anyone know at which directory my HD is?
[12:34] <johhny> hghfgh: type mount
[12:34] <holden> _jason: of course
[12:34] <holden> :)
[12:34] <teeagoo> johhny, yep ... :|
[12:34] <whispers_of_clay> bummer, the latest updates to breezy killed my /dev/scd0 which is my external USB DVD burner. great.
[12:34] <hghfgh> yay
[12:34] <teeagoo> johhny, dont run
[12:34] <johhny> teeagoo: That sucks, I dont know
[12:35] <hghfgh> ok thx
[12:35] <johhny> teeagoo: What error do you get?
[12:35] <teeagoo> johhny, hehehehe, yep!!!!!
[12:35] <kbrooks> j/p
[12:35] <hghfgh> in the console just type mount?
[12:35] <_jason> holden:  in a terminal, navigate to the directory containing the file.  Then type: mplayer filename.avi -ao null
[12:35] <ThePyromaniac> can anyone help me?
[12:36] <teeagoo> johhny, i dont remember anymore, when i go to xfce, just dont run :(
[12:36] <holden> _jason: FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
[12:36] <holden> FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
[12:36] <holden> (sorry for the double paste)
[12:36] <n0odl3> hey guys i have a question
[12:37] <n0odl3> how do you set up a sound card in Ubuntu
[12:37] <_jason> holden try: mplayer filename.avi -vo null
[12:37] <ajeet> Hello, how do I log out of sudo mode in a terminal?
[12:38] <n0odl3> ajeet try the su command
[12:38] <anethema> sudo -K
[12:38] <anethema> i believe
[12:38] <n0odl3> oh nvm
[12:38] <n0odl3> wait does anyone know how to set up a sound card?
[12:38] <holden> _jason: FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo) -- same thing
[12:38] <El_Che> exit
[12:38] <holden> :(
[12:38] <ajeet> I just exited the terminal, re-entered it and it didn't even ask for the password, not very secure!!!
[12:38] <anethema> ajeet, it has a timeout
[12:38] <anethema> when you enter a pwd dont need to enter it for a bit
[12:38] <bytefoo> you can change the timeout if you like
[12:38] <anethema> but do a sudo -K if you wanna destry the duso session
[12:38] <ajeet> How?
[12:39] <n0odl3> sound card?
[12:39] <_jason> holden:  strange but I guess that narrows it down to a video problem...
[12:39] <ajeet> How do I change the root password, don't want it to be the same as my account one?
[12:39] <teeagoo> hey, i have a hp 3670scanner, but dont run, someone know how make this crap run...? tkz
[12:39] <anethema> sudo passwd root
[12:40] <_jason> holden:  you made sure the changes you made to that file were still there after installing the new package?
[12:40] <ajeet> Thanks!
[12:40] <Skapare> sound cards would be easier to set up if manufacturers didn't make them so screwy
[12:40] <n0odl3> ok
[12:40] <phillambrechts> !w32codecs
[12:40] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[12:40] <ajeet> One last thing guys, deleting a folder in a terminal?
[12:40] <n0odl3> so how do i set up a sound card?
[12:40] <anethema> rm -r <folder>
[12:40] <n0odl3> ?
[12:40] <ajeet> You're the best!
[12:40] <anethema> :D
[12:41] <anethema> biggest, best, and better than the rest ;)
[12:41] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a sound card and macromedia flash?
[12:41] <n0odl3> anyone?
[12:41] <anethema> heh n0odl3
[12:41] <anethema> what do you mean set up a sound card
[12:41] <bytefoo> flash worked for me fine through mozilla :/
[12:41] <anethema> what card is it
[12:41] <bytefoo> installing through mozilla i mean
[12:41] <nalioth> anyone know about irssi hilighting in here?
[12:42] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul?
[12:42] <n0odl3> anthema: its a sound blaster
[12:43] <ngmlinux_> join #ppp
[12:43] <phillambrechts> hello, I installed java with the directions from ubuntuguide.org on hoary, do i need to do anything special to upgrade it in breezy?
[12:43] <phillambrechts> I already performed a dist-upgrade
[12:43] <Jaivaz> Does anyone know how to fix the screen resolution problem in Breezy?
[12:43] <holden> _jason: yep, changes were still there.  I just tried it on another file from the terminal and it works (yey!) but it doesn't if i try to open it from ... i dont know how to call it, from the windows version of the ting
[12:43] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac ?
[12:43] <kbrooks> phillambrechts: *please* don't use the ubuntu guide.
[12:43] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, Don't think so, why, isn't it working ?
[12:43] <n0odl3> hey anthema its a  soundblaster card
[12:43] <holden> _jason: but still, the video quality sucks
[12:43] <bytefoo> ubotu, tell Jaivaz about resolution
[12:43] <phillambrechts> kbrooks, i used it in the past
[12:43] <lllmanulll> Jaivaz, What resolution problem ?
[12:44] <flodine> does breezy support dvi at 1920x1200?
[12:44] <_jason> holden:  mplayer might just not like that file.  I can try it on my version if it's not something private to see if mplayer just can't play it.
[12:44] <phillambrechts> lllmanulll, i believe its working but i would like the most up to date one to make sure i don't run into problems
[12:44] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a sound card?
[12:44] <mekgp> anybody know of a way to "acquire" libcurl.so.2???
[12:44] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, you called
[12:44] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, It is ok, dist-upgrade has updated all your packages
[12:44] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul i posted and it wasnt noticed, lol
[12:45] <phillambrechts> lllmanulll, java wasn't a package
[12:45] <phillambrechts> it was installed the way ubuntuguide says
[12:45] <flodine> anyone on dvi
[12:45] <Mystique> hello all
[12:45] <Mystique> I have a problem installing libdvdcss2
[12:45] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul, i tried a reinstall and now it still does not work. someone on a webforum had a similar problem but got no answeres so just RMAed it. that will be a long time for me with no pc, and if the board is fine i gotta pay 13!
[12:45] <Mystique> it complains about libc6
[12:45] <Mystique> how might I possibly go about dealing w/ that?
[12:45] <Mercutio> ok how do I DL gstreamer and install it?
[12:46] <kbrooks> Mystique: did you use the ubuntu guide to do so?
[12:46] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, Well, this seems to be sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5, right ?
[12:46] <Mystique> yes
[12:46] <Mystique> kbrooks: I get an error dealing w/ libc
[12:46] <phillambrechts> what?
[12:46] <kbrooks> uh-oh....
[12:46] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, really you need to probe the disk - check your bios
[12:46] <Mystique> ibdvdcss2: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[12:46] <Mystique> kbrooks: this is my error
[12:46] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, The ubuntuguide seems to give this command for installation
[12:46] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, other than that its spend more time with your GF :-)
[12:47] <Mystique> I have not seen this error in any of the wiki pages
[12:47] <lllmanulll> phillambrechts, And this is actually installing a new package
[12:47] <Mystique> or google :/
[12:47] <Jaivaz> Eep
[12:47] <bytefoo> noo firefox crashed :(
[12:47] <phillambrechts> lllmanulll, i installed it before the ubuntuguide added backports
[12:47] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul chuckle, true. what do you mean by probe my disk though?
[12:47] <Mercutio> ok how do I DL gstreamer and install it?
[12:47] <kbrooks> Mystique: well, show the sources.list on the pastebin in the topic
[12:47] <Mystique> k (ty) two seconds
[12:47] <Jaivaz> Anyhow, the screen is still the same. The far right of it isn't being used at all
[12:47] <nalioth> Mercutio: you should never d/l anything to install
[12:47] <muszek> hello
[12:47] <n0odl3> does anyohne know how to set up a sound card?
[12:47] <nalioth> Mercutio: use synaptic for your software additions and removals
[12:47] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, see if the disk spins up at boot
[12:48] <Mercutio> ok that gets what I need for me then?
[12:48] <ThePyromaniac> twysted thinks me disk is fine
[12:48] <ompaul> stuff like that check out the bios and make sure whatever is in there is correct
[12:48] <dabaR> I can not log into gnome at all, with any of my users(I tried 2, one of which has never befoer logged into gdm.) I get a HAL error, that it can not be started, and then it just hangs, I can click on the panel's show desktop icon, but I can not click on the desktop.
[12:48] <kbrooks> nalioth: look at Mystique's problem. it smells like marillat
[12:48] <nalioth> kbrooks: so help Mystique sniff
[12:48] <kbrooks> okay, nalioth
[12:48] <dabaR> Actually, it logs in, but i get that HAL error, and it takes a long time for nautilus to log in.
[12:48] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, there is one other option and it would not really go to waste - buy another sata disk and use it to check out your setup
[12:48] <Mystique> http://pastebin.com/387569
[12:48] <ThePyromaniac> disk is vibrating and very hot ompaul
[12:49] <Mystique> there are no comments there just sources
[12:49] <Mercutio> ok I got a whole bunch of error messages when I started synaptic
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul, right... i just got find 70 lol
[12:49] <nalioth> kbrooks: see the problem?
[12:49] <muszek> I've just installed ubuntu on my parents' computer.  The only problem is that I get 60Hz refresh rate (and I can't change it... should be 75). Samsung SyncMaster 750s and Nvidia nForce...
[12:49] <phillambrechts> whatever it seems to work
[12:49] <muszek> could anyone help me please?
[12:49] <ompaul> so its on but not getting read - I would remove its power and see if the machine complains at boot up
[12:49] <kbrooks> nalioth: backports?
[12:49] <n0odl3> hello?
[12:49] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul thanks for trying to help man :D
[12:50] <nalioth> kbrooks: mirrormax is gone for good
[12:50] <kbrooks> AHA
[12:50] <antix> is it ok to have /boot as reiserfs?
[12:50] <kbrooks> nalioth: i was right!
[12:50] <kbrooks> marillat!
[12:50] <Mystique> yes apt does complain about mirrormax's GPG key.. (iirc)
[12:50] <kbrooks> Mystique: you have the marillat repo enabled. where did you enable it from?
[12:50] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul good idea
[12:51] <Mystique> as in what site told me to add it or how did I physically add it?
[12:51] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, you got nothing to loose but a bit of time today and tomorrow
[12:51] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul exactly
[12:51] <ctw> does anybody here have an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop with working suspend to disk/ram in breezy?
[12:51] <ThePyromaniac> brb then
[12:51] <Mystique> kbrooks: ..
[12:51] <kbrooks> Mystique: what site told you to add it?
[12:51] <Mystique> looking..
[12:51] <phillambrechts> mozilla-mplayer is crashing my firefox, what can i do
[12:51] <antix> is it ok to have /boot as reiserfs or should I use ext3?
[12:51] <dabaR> What can I do to find out why my nautilus takes a longer time than normal to load? like a minute or so.
[12:52] <Mystique> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[12:52] <poningru_> antix: its fine
[12:52] <kbrooks> Mystique: also, cdroms get out of date fast
[12:52] <Mystique> that entry?
[12:52] <kbrooks> Mystique: yes that entry
[12:52] <ctw> antix: I have everything in reiserFS and it works just fine
[12:52] <Mystique> yes I haven't removed it :/
[12:52] <poningru_> you dont have to switch to ext3 but lots of progs dont like reiserfs
[12:52] <antix> thanks :)
[12:52] <Mystique> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:52] <Mystique> there
[12:52] <macgeek> question: anyone know what dsl modems are supported by ubuntu? i know d-link is...
[12:52] <poningru_> macgeek: um all of them
[12:53] <larsrohdin> whats the best update in breezy?
[12:53] <Mystique> it speaks of using 'gedit' (vi is better.. )
[12:53] <dooglus> antix: my /boot is in reiserfs without problems
[12:53] <kbrooks> Mystique: OK.
[12:53] <larsrohdin> or biggest?
[12:53] <dabaR> Also, my gnome-volume-manager is not working, says that HAL is not running. I have tried sudo hald, which gave no output, but did not fix anything.
[12:53] <Mystique> I'm assuming thats the problem?
[12:53] <macgeek> poningru: westell?
[12:53] <dooglus> larsrohdin: the wallpaper
[12:53] <kbrooks> Mystique: anyway, marillat is for  debian
[12:53] <larsrohdin> dooglus, new wallpaper?
[12:53] <poningru> macgeek: as long as you connect it using a network cable
[12:53] <Mystique> I'm a new ubuntu user 'today'
[12:53] <dooglus> larsrohdin: ok yes
[12:53] <Mystique> ok
[12:53] <antix> poningru, any special programs don't like resierfs?
[12:53] <dooglus> antix: beagle doesn't like reiserfs too much
[12:53] <poningru> antix: for example beagle has couple of probs
[12:53] <Mystique> so I'm assuming I need an ubuntu repo that provides the same packages?
[12:54] <phillambrechts> does the -686 kernel make a difference?
[12:54] <dabaR> My CDs do not mount, only manually, and only one of the two drives can be mounted manually.
[12:54] <kbrooks> Mystique: marillat is a repositoryfor debian. the packages there are built on debian sid, not ubuntu
[12:54] <dooglus> it basically doesn't work at all well with reiserfs, since it can't remember which files it has indexed and which it hasn't...
[12:54] <antix> ok but do you recomend reiserfs anyway?
[12:54] <poningru> macgeek: the usb connection thing I havent tried
[12:54] <Mystique> I tried to follow the wiki.. and thats the problem? ;)
[12:54] <dooglus> antix: it stops me using beagle.  other than that I've had to problems
[12:54] <macgeek> poningru: but westell via ethernet works?
[12:54] <kbrooks> Mystique: comment out your cdrom entry, and comment out the marillat entry too.
[12:54] <poningru> macgeek: ofcourse
[12:54] <bytefoo> yeah i cant get beagle to work either :(
[12:54] <poningru> macgeek: it worked for me
[12:55] <antix> dooglus, what do you gain from raiserfs?
[12:55] <dooglus> antix: and that's a blessing in disguise because that allows me to live without mono...  :)
[12:55] <poningru> macgeek: just make sure you connect during boot
[12:55] <macgeek> poningru: thanks
[12:55] <dooglus> antix: reiserfs is very fast
[12:55] <bytefoo> its bad for laptops though
[12:55] <poningru> bytefoo: how so?
[12:55] <kbrooks> Mystique: ubuntu uses the same format as debian re packages (.deb). It's based on Debian
[12:55] <bytefoo> always accessing the disks runs out the battery very fast :/
[12:55] <dooglus> antix: it's also a 'proper' journalled filesystem, designed to be journalled.  ext3 is ext2 with journalling added on after.
[12:55] <poningru> ah ic
[12:55] <macgeek> poningru: ok
[12:56] <poningru> macgeek: I meant connect before starting the computer
[12:56] <antix> dooglus, ok I'm installing it on a server, no need for beagle :)
[12:56] <kbrooks> Mystique: however, ubuntu is NOT debian just because it is based on debian.
[12:56] <ericz> uh can someone help me out?
[12:56] <Mystique> ok
[12:56] <phillambrechts> yesterday, was such an easy game to play
[12:56] <Mystique> done and updated and installed
[12:56] <Mystique> ty
[12:56] <Mystique> but
[12:56] <macgeek> poningru: how so? you mean already have the modem running?
[12:56] <Mystique> still dvd issue :/
[12:56] <poningru> erick: whats the prob?
[12:56] <kbrooks> Mystique: this is why you get those libc6 problems
[12:56] <ericz> i ran "sudo apt-get dist-update" or something, and i
[12:56] <Pluk> bytefoo, it uses my hd rarely when im on batt. with reiserfs
[12:56] <ericz> cant open gnome display manager
[12:56] <ericz> when i boot
[12:56] <ericz> im in terminal
[12:56] <Mystique> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)2, systemstream=(boolean)false
[12:56] <poningru> macgeek: yeah start up the modem, connect to comp then start it up
[12:56] <Mystique> and all the usual messages next
[12:57] <Pluk> only when i start a new prog. i even hear it spinning up
[12:57] <Mystique> about ac3 and dvdsubpicture
[12:57] <macgeek> poningru: ok thanks
[12:57] <dooglus> antix: i have heard reports that ext3 is somehow safer than reiserfs.  I don't know whether that is true.  but my laptop's battery is broken, and the power cable is lose - so I power down accidentally quite a lot.  I've never suffered any data loss to my knowledge.
[12:57] <poningru> ericz: what did you do exactly?
[12:57] <bytefoo> maybe they changed it
[12:57] <dooglus> s/lose/loose/
[12:57] <poningru> ericz: did you change the repository list?
[12:57] <antix> dooglus, ok thanks
[12:57] <ericz> well this guy was telling me how to upgrade to breezy from hoary, he gave me a sources.list and told me to apt-get update, i did, i had some errors about keys or something, he told me to do apt-get dist-update then
[12:58] <ericz> and i rebooted after running it, and gnome display manager fails to open on boot
[12:58] <kbrooks> erick: upgrade
[12:58] <Mercutio150> err
[12:58] <kbrooks> not update
[12:58] <ericz> ok, well i probably ran that then maybe?
[12:58] <poningru> erick: did you do 'apt-get dist-update' or 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:58] <poningru> ?
[12:58] <ericz> not entirely sure
[12:59] <ericz> :(
[12:59] <macgeek> another question: should ubuntu work with any ethernet card, e.g., one i pick up used at computer surplus?
[12:59] <SymGeosis> Hm, anybody have aboutubuntu.css or the proper css file for Breezy start page for Firefox/Epiphany?
[12:59] <Mercutio150> ok can someone help me with synaptic?
[12:59] <poningru> macgeek: yeah almost every ethernet card should work with ubuntu
[12:59] <krod> don't ask to ask, just ask
[12:59] <macgeek> poningru: thanks once more
[12:59] <poningru> np
[01:00] <Mystique> kbrooks: so no idea what I should do next to make my error go away?
[01:00] <Mystique> also that repo is on this site as well..
[01:00] <kbrooks> Mystique: not really
[01:00] <Mystique> http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[01:00] <poningru> ericz: so you cant get the graphical part at all?
[01:00] <muszek> bye
[01:00] <ericz> no
[01:00] <ericz> it boots into like command prompt mode
[01:00] <ericz> when booting, it says starting gnome display manager FAIL
[01:01] <poningru> ericz: crap ic
[01:01] <ericz> ?
[01:01] <satafterh> I am having issues sharing folders on home network? is there a bug or is it me??
[01:01] <SymGeosis> ericz, you don't happen to have an ATI graphics card do you?
[01:01] <ericz> i dont think so
[01:01] <poningru> satafterh: what are you using? samba?
[01:02] <ericz> i think i seriously did something wrong, its not a gfx card thing
[01:02] <ericz> cuz it worked on hoary
[01:02] <SymGeosis> Okay, good. Have you tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[01:02] <ericz> nope
[01:02] <SymGeosis> Try that.
[01:02] <ericz> well im in command prompt mode thing
[01:02] <ericz> its kinda forcin me to type in irc
[01:02] <ericz> how do i type an actual cmd
[01:03] <satafterh> poningru - tried but it wont let me configure it
[01:03] <kbrooks> ericz: u using telnet or smth
[01:03] <ericz> no
[01:03] <ericz> i dont know
[01:03] <kbrooks> irssi?
[01:03] <ericz> i booted up in command prompt mode thing
[01:03] <ericz> god..
[01:03] <SymGeosis> ericz, ctrl-alt F2
[01:03] <poningru> satafterh: are you connecting windows-ubuntu or ubuntu-ubuntu?
[01:03] <SymGeosis> Oh, you're in rescue/single user mode?
[01:03] <ericz> not doing anything
[01:04] <tyler_durden> how do i configure sound? i deleted the icon off my taskbar thing
[01:04] <kbrooks> ericz: how are you connected exactly
[01:04] <ericz> i typed "irc"
[01:04] <ericz> in the prompt
[01:04] <ericz> when i booted up
[01:04] <ericz> to come here
[01:04] <kbrooks> ericz: you are running irssui
[01:04] <poningru> tyler_durden: you can add it back
[01:04] <ericz> i dont think so
[01:05] <ericz> not sure
[01:05] <poningru> right click on an empty portion of the panel
[01:05] <kbrooks> ericz: u are
[01:05] <ericz> ..........k
[01:05] <poningru> tyler_durden: and add
[01:05] <BjornW> any network guru's here?
[01:05] <kbrooks> ericz: /version tells u
[01:05] <dooglus> antix: here's a page which is quite 'pro-ext3': http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/afig-ct-ext3-intro.xml
[01:05] <ericz> .......
[01:05] <tyler_durden> OH thats right
[01:05] <tyler_durden> ty ponigru
[01:06] <SymGeosis> ericz, the easiest way to fix this would be for you to exit out of single user mode by exiting your IRC client. then typing "exit". As long as Xorg crashing doesn't lock up your computer you should be fine. Once there you should do the command I gave you.
[01:06] <phillambrechts> Why doesn't usplash work on dist-upgrades
[01:06] <phillambrechts> ?
[01:06] <SymGeosis> ericz, you could then do a ctrl-atl F2 and start your IRC client.
[01:06] <satafterh> I am connecting to xp, i am able to view xp shared folders on ubunbu but cant seam to set up sharing on ubuntu. I did it befor and i remenber it being easy but it just assked me for root pass word and then wont let me configure shareing
[01:07] <hwaara> is it possible to search on all translated strings in ubuntu?
[01:07] <poningru> satafterh: yeah you need samba for that
[01:07] <hwaara> to figure out in which package a specific string is located
[01:07] <pminetti> hi, i traing to configure my nvidia, but when i run nvidia-sttiengs, it says ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display
[01:07] <poningru> satafterh: if you need to share files from your ubuntu computer to your xp computer you need samba
[01:08] <dooglus> SymGeosis: I don't know why ubuntu doesn't offer a multiuser runlevel without gdm for ericz to solve his proble
[01:08] <SymGeosis> Bah, I didn't even noice that he left.
[01:08] <bytefoo> :/
[01:08] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a soundcard
[01:08] <n0odl3> its a sound blaster
[01:08] <bytefoo> not me :(
[01:08] <poningru> satafterh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[01:08] <moparfan90> hello i just got my AMD athlon 64 2800 and my new gigibyte motherboard. i wanted to know if ubuntu-64 is stable and is able to run all the same programs that the normal 32-bit ubuntu can?
[01:08] <poningru> did you read throught that?
[01:08] <SymGeosis> dooglus, it could I suppose. But single-user mode is a standard feature on all distros (to include Unix).
[01:09] <codenut> hi everyone
[01:09] <dooglus> SymGeosis: right.  runlevel 1 is single user, but runlevels 2 and 3 are the same...  why not have level 2 be without gdm and level 3 be with gdm?
[01:09] <poningru> moparfan90: yes almost all the free software in ubuntu is 64-bit capable
[01:09] <Steve_de_Tech> I use a AMD 64 and Kubuntu 5.04.   Works good.
[01:09] <poningru> moparfan90: couple of the closed ones are not
[01:09] <moparfan90> oo ok thanks
[01:09] <pminetti> hi, i traing to configure my nvidia, but when i run nvidia-settings, it says ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display any help?
[01:10] <moparfan90> poningru, cloased one? what do you mean
[01:10] <poningru> moparfan90: flash
[01:10] <poningru> moparfan90: closed source/ non-free
[01:10] <moparfan90> poningru, cant i use the 32-bt version?
[01:10] <SymGeosis> dooglus, I'm not familiar with the way Linux init levels works as I come from a FreeBSD/Solaris background. *shrugs*
[01:10] <poningru> moparfan90: not sure
[01:10] <poningru> moparfan90: let me look that up
[01:10] <satafterh> I have samba but every thing is grayed out so i cant configure it
[01:10] <moparfan90> poningru, ok thanks
[01:10] <dooglus> SymGeosis: it's all done by the links in /etc/rc<level>.d
[01:11] <poningru> satafterh: hmm how did you install samba?
[01:11] <dooglus> SymGeosis: so running "sudo mv /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm /etc/rc2.d/K01gdm" would do what I want.  you would have to edit /etc/inittab to set the default level to be 3 if you still wanted gdm as default
[01:11] <satafterh> its been there
[01:11] <[t0rc] > anyone here using ATI Xorg drivers?
[01:11] <greg-> After upgrading to breezy, one of my machines hangs at gdm login.  I am using ldap.  The other machines seem unaffected, and I cannot find anything interesting in the logs.  I can log in fine at the console or by ssh.  Any thoughts?
[01:12] <n0odl3> how do you log out of root?
[01:12] <n0odl3> how do i log out of the root terminal
[01:12] <_marx_> exit
[01:12] <[t0rc] > type exit
[01:12] <n0odl3> thats it
[01:12] <zrothe> what is the latest version of linux-source ?
[01:12] <n0odl3> nothing will happeN?
[01:12] <ThePyromaniac> this is annoying... does anyone know how to get around the error message "No valide device!" on boot-up? Windows does not recognise my SATA HD and neither does LiveCD, but the bios chucks up the device name and its capacity along with that error message
[01:12] <Chris_Tucker> ive just changed sound cards to one with a different chipset... how do i reconfigure to use the new one?
[01:12] <dooglus> n0odl3: or control-d
[01:12] <boxerboy29> i installed forg and now i cant find it it didnt get put in menu also a few other things didnt is there something im missing?
[01:12] <n0odl3> yeah how do you set up a sound card?
[01:13] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: you should try moving your SATA connector to another channel on your motherboard.
[01:13] <dooglus> zrothe: 2.6.12-9.22
[01:13] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc good suggestion, tried that and it did not work
[01:13] <poningru> moparfan90: sorry dude you cant
[01:14] <poningru> satafterh: did you read through that page?
[01:14] <poningru> cause I am not sure you installed the extra stuff
[01:14] <moparfan90> poningru, oo   in other distros you can... is flash the only thing that doesnt work?
[01:14] <satafterh> yes, its just all grayed out
[01:14] <n0odl3> theres no way to set up a sound card?
[01:14] <leagris> good night all european folks and good evening the west folks. Have sexy dream with the penguin tonight :)
[01:14] <poningru> moparfan90: I am not so exp in this so not sure
[01:14] <mhz_ed> hi all
[01:14] <moparfan90> poningru, ok thanks for you help
[01:14] <macgeek> hi
[01:15] <pminetti> hi, i traing to configure my nvidia, but when i run nvidia-settings, it says ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display any help?
[01:15] <mhz_ed> has any one here ever done a netboot install?
[01:15] <ThePyromaniac> anyone else got an ideas?
[01:15] <poningru> !samba
[01:15] <Chris_Tucker> ive just changed sound cards to one with a different chipset... how do i reconfigure to use the new one?
[01:15] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: are you overclocking?
[01:15] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:15] <moparfan90> does anyonw know when seveas will be on again?
[01:15] <macgeek> mhz_ed: i am going to as soon as i get an ethernet card
[01:15] <n0odl3> ok i just put in a new sound card how do i set it uP?
[01:15] <mhz_ed> macgeek, have you ever in your life?
[01:15] <nalioth> moparfan90: he is in and out every day
[01:15] <moparfan90> i know
[01:15] <macgeek> mhz_ed: nope
[01:15] <moparfan90> im here every day
[01:15] <macgeek> sorry
[01:16] <kbrooks> !ftp
[01:16] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, kbrooks
[01:16] <kbrooks> :|
[01:16] <mhz_ed> macgeek, do you know what you need (afaik, tftp + dhcp server + netboot.gz)
[01:16] <mhz_ed> ?
[01:16] <ProN00b> i am bored, does anone know some cool 3d gfx stuff i can get with apt-get ?
[01:16] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a new sound card?
[01:16] <n0odl3> actually its old but i just put it in
[01:16] <bytefoo> ProN00b, how about 3ddesktop
[01:16] <bytefoo> :|
[01:16] <kbrooks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611 :)
[01:16] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc no i just removed the sata disk and put it back after putting the HD in anohter pc
[01:17] <poningru> satafterh: dude what is greyed out?
[01:17] <mhz_ed> n0odl3, did you run alsaconfig, already?
[01:17] <thewayofzen> i think my upgrade to breezy is successful?
[01:17] <ProN00b> bytefoo, i already seen it on screenshots, doesn't look that cool to me and i don't want to have it eat its way into my system
[01:17] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: hmm...what kinda HDD is it? if Hitachi Deskstar when did you buy it?
[01:17] <moparfan90> kbrooks, do you know if i use ubuntu-64bit i would be able to use flash and all of those things?
[01:17] <dabaR> what is the mount file again, the one that automounts?
[01:17] <dooglus> dabaR: /etc/fstab ?
[01:17] <dabaR> ya, thanks.
[01:17] <Chris_Tucker> ive just changed sound cards to one with a different chipset... how do i reconfigure to use the new one?
[01:17] <dooglus> "file system table"
[01:18] <mhz_ed> Chris_Tucker, alsaconfig?
[01:18] <n0odl3> mhz_ed: how do you  run that?
[01:18] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc its a WD Caviar 160GB
[01:18] <dooglus> is there any way of seeing 'shockwave' stuff in ubuntu?
[01:18] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed: i'll try that
[01:19] <mhz_ed> n0odl3, no idea. Try from a terminal and start typing alsa TAB TAB
[01:19] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: hm. If your BIOS is showing an error message, could be a bad HDD.
[01:20] <n0odl3> what the heck
[01:20] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc perhaps
[01:20] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc think i should RMA it?
[01:20] <dabaR> I can not get gnome-volume-manager to run, it says HAL is not running. And my nautilus takes a minute to load(and thus logging into gnome as well).
[01:20] <n0odl3> alsa gives me something weird
[01:20] <n0odl3> im not sure what it does
[01:20] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: also want to make sure that your SATA cable doesn't have any tight radius turns, it'll kill transfer speeds horribly.
[01:20] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: and could, possible, interfere with connectivity.
[01:21] <thewayofzen> ARTWIZ FONTS: anyone get them to function in blackbox/fluxbox in breezy
[01:21] <thewayofzen> if so mind explaining how?
[01:21] <dabaR>  18:22:25 up 12 days, 23:55,  7 users,  load average: 3.13, 3.33, 3.45
[01:21] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: well, did you install SATA drivers in windows?
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc none of them ^^
[01:21] <nalioth> thewayofzen: put your ttf fonts in ~/.fonts
[01:21] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc well i dont entirely remember. this HD has been working for months
[01:21] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  thats it?
[01:21] <thewayofzen> seems easy
[01:21] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use a sound card?
[01:21] <n0odl3> i mean set one up
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc i just took it out, tryed it on GF's pc, forgot she had 32bit i had 64 and brought it hom
[01:22] <nalioth> thewayofzen: easy enough
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> now it dont work!
[01:22] <moparfan90> does anyone know a distro that is setup very good for a AMD athlon 64 CPU?
[01:22] <ngmlinux_> anyone know how to take care of the route tables in ubuntu/debian?
[01:22] <luite> moparfan90: install the k7 kernel in ubuntu?
[01:22] <dooglus> dabaR: why is your load average so high?
[01:23] <luite> moparfan90: oh wait, you said athlon 64 :)
[01:23] <moparfan90> whats a "k7 kernel" ??
[01:23] <dabaR> cause I am running things maybe, dunno.
[01:23] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: hmm...think you accidentally fried it while moving it around?
[01:23] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc how could it be fried?
[01:23] <luckyaba> ok i am trying to get my nvidia driver working
[01:24] <luckyaba> i have 2 nvidia 6600 gt's sli'd together
[01:24] <dooglus> dabaR: 3 means there are 3 jobs fighting for the CPU.  what are you running that's keeping the CPU so busy?  (check with 'top')
[01:24] <dabaR> my nautilus is misehaving.
[01:24] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc my GF's 3yr old nephew was holding it in the car but he didnt drop it, lol!
[01:24] <dooglus> dabaR: maybe gam_server is naughty?  I've seen it happen before
[01:24] <luite> moparfan90: it's for the 32 bit athlon... I have a dual core ahtlon 64 and the k7-smp kernel runs fine. I don't think running a 64 bit kernel really has an advantage over 32 bit, for desktop use
[01:24] <luckyaba> when i try and get into gdm with the top card it goes black
[01:24] <dabaR> screen, top, init, irssi,Xorg...
[01:24] <moparfan90> its not alot faster?
[01:25] <luckyaba> but i can change the monitor to the second one and it appears but horribly small resolution
[01:25] <GhostFreeman> where is the public-html directory for Apache located at?
[01:25] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a sound card
[01:25] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed: alsaconfig: command not found
[01:25] <luite> moparfan90: few percent, at most
[01:25] <luckyaba> and i cant make it bigger
[01:25] <dooglus> dabaR: none of those use the CPU much.  do you see any 'Id'le time in top?
[01:25] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: well, static (but that's probably not it). Did you like pull out a power cable while it was in use, or shake it while it was being used or anything?
[01:25] <n0odl3> yeah i got the same thing mzhed
[01:25] <boxerboy29> does anyone know if anjuta uses gcc to compile?
[01:25] <moparfan90> o
[01:25] <dabaR> of top?
[01:25] <dooglus> dabaR: what does the 3rd line of 'top' show?  the line that begins 'cpu(s)'?
[01:25] <mhz_ed> Chris_Tucker, any alsa... command? Usually, autocompletition works by pressing Tab Tab
[01:26] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc fairly sure i did not do that. if it was a bad HD what stage do you think it would get to in ubuntu install? cause i got to the "Reboot and remove CD stage"
[01:26] <dabaR> 99.3
[01:26] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc it was copy packages and formatting partitions ok
[01:26] <dabaR> %idle, sorry about the enter.
[01:26] <skip> is this the right place to ask novice ubuntu (not novice linux) questions?
[01:26] <dooglus> dabaR: that's the number *before* "id", right?
[01:26] <dabaR> .3 user, .3 system. yes.
[01:26] <poningru> Skid: yes
[01:26] <dooglus> and a load average of 3?
[01:26] <flugh> gah, i gotta put ubuntu on the server at work when breezy 'goes gold'. i've done more easy management in last 20 minutes, than all day with that fedora box
[01:27] <dabaR> ya, still there.
[01:27] <skip> ok...  using the default graphical tools how do I set up sshd?
[01:27] <n0odl3> i got two also commands mhzed
[01:27] <skip> help
[01:27] <zigg> hello, I'm a noob is anyone up to explaining how to recompile the kernel more specifically to my hardware?
[01:27] <dooglus> I guess I don't know what "load average" means then...  I thought if a box had any idle time then the load average would be
[01:27] <dooglus> ... would be < 1
[01:27] <amalthea> hello people, i have a (simple?) question
[01:27] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: well if the HDD was shot you'd have a very slim chance of getting that far; reading/writing would be crapped. hmm...have you tried changing the cable? (you said you changed the slot it was plugged into on the mobo right? what mobo you have anyways?)
[01:27] <rob^> skip, just install it using synaptic, then enable it using services
[01:28] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed alsactl , alsamixer
[01:28] <matsur> Hi all, what's the best way to copy an ubuntu installation from one HD to another? I tried dd'ing it over and then editing fstab on the copy but no dice :(
[01:28] <n0odl3> which one do i sue?
[01:28] <n0odl3> which alsa?
[01:28] <amalthea> how do i move an entire user from one ubuntu system to another one?
[01:28] <matsur> i get a pivot_root error w/ that method
[01:28] <rob^> skip, if you want to configure it you will have to go to the /etc text files
[01:28] <flugh> matsur: i'd use 'tar' for that
[01:28] <zrothe> dooglas why when I search using Synaptic it only shows 2.6-10
[01:28] <dabaR> It means how many processes were run in the last minute, 5, and 15.
[01:28] <blaat2> does anybody know how to resolve this error in azureus: Error: Operation not permitted, setLength fails.
[01:28] <feugan3333> Hi all. I struggling with cups. I'm really not sure what I did to break it but suddenly "lpr mytextfile" does nothing. Does cupsd keep a log cause there is nothing in the system log (/var/log/messages).
[01:28] <dabaR> or something like that.
[01:28] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc i got a fresh and friendly cable from my mobo packagine and that still didnt work. im on a ASUS A8N-SLI Premier
[01:28] <zigg> hello? d
[01:28] <dooglus> dabaR: this explains it - I'm about to read it... http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/NJG_LUV_2002/luvSlides.html :)
[01:29] <matsur> flugh: tar everything?
[01:29] <boxerboy29> does anyone in here use anjuta ide?
[01:29] <dooglus> dabaR: I thought it was the average number of processes in the queue to get on the CPU at any particular time.  but I'll see...
[01:29] <dabaR> I am not going to, I dont think it is related to my HAL issue.
[01:29] <skip> thanks.  that's not so bad. ;-)  I sorta thought the gui craze had taken over everything and i just missed something in one of the menus...
[01:29] <luckyaba> i cant get my resolution aboe 640 x 480.. help?
[01:29] <dabaR> dooglus: something like that, yaya.
[01:29] <zigg> hello, noob and kernel recompile help?
[01:29] <zigg> do I have voice?
[01:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell luckyaba about fixres
[01:29] <nalioth> zigg: surely
[01:29] <flugh> matmatsur: you could make a big ol' tarball of your current system, then extract it on the new system. dirty, but i prefer that to 'dd' if things don't match up just right (harddrive-wise)
[01:29] <zigg> thanks
[01:30] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: i guess you could try either flashing the BIOS or reinstalling windows and making sure you install the SATA drivers; but that still wouldn't explain it not coming up in ubuntu...
[01:30] <mhz_ed> Chris_Tucker, did you try alsactl?
[01:30] <nalioth> zigg: to get someone to talk to you, you have to ask a question or provide an answer
[01:30] <flugh> matsur: personally, i'd just install clean on the new hard drive, have a tarball of my /home, parts of /etc, and maybe /var ready to drop in
[01:30] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: isn't that like a brand new board to the market?
[01:30] <zigg> I did ask a question about first time linux kernel recompiling
[01:30] <BurgerMann> How do I encrypt a password so it would fit the 'useradd ... -p encrypted_pass' ?
[01:30] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc its within a few months yes
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc i have had my whole system FINE for ages
[01:31] <nalioth> zigg: if nobody knows the answer, there will be no response ;(
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc its just now i bring HD back it not work. how do i flash my bios?
[01:31] <zrothe> dooglus: I installed linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10_all.deb, but im still having probs
[01:31] <zigg> o ok :)
[01:31] <zigg> new to irc obviously
[01:31] <hwaara> How do I configure xchat to highlight everything my friend says here?
[01:31] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to set up a sound card?
[01:31] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc also, i never get as far as ubuntu, i dont think OS is anything to do with it
[01:31] <matsur> flugh: thanks, I'll try that next. But any idea on how to solve the pivot_root error?
[01:32] <boxerboy29> hwaara: if your name is said it will show up red normally
[01:32] <collind> hi, i have a sony vaio laptop and am running ubuntu on it - it seems i don't have 3d acceleration enabled - glxgears runs for about 3 seconds and then stops, and glxinfo shows OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect - could somebody help me get this fixed please?
[01:32] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed yes, it asked for a command to be included in the line
[01:32] <flugh> matsur: sorry, i didn't see that part of your issue. serves me right for butting in half-way through :)
[01:32] <rob^> collind, install 3d drivers
[01:32] <hwaara> boxerboy29, yes, but I also want my friend's chat to be red for me!
[01:32] <Chris_Tucker> mhz_ed: right now im trying another card (i have 4, 2 identical) instaed
[01:32] <BurgerMann> I'll try again :S How do I encrypt a password so it would fit the 'useradd ... -p encrypted_pass' ?
[01:32] <matsur> flugh: yeah, that's the only error  get w/ the dd'ed HD
[01:32] <bytefoo> ubotu, tell collind about ati
[01:32] <boxerboy29> i dont think there is a way unless you name is said
[01:33] <dabaR> I think ther eis.
[01:33] <hwaara> dabaR, enlighten me!
[01:33] <dooglus> dabaR: what does 'lshal' show you?
[01:33] <collind> ok, going to give it a try, thanks for the links
[01:34] <rob^> !3d
[01:34] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, rob^
[01:34] <rob^> grr
[01:34] <ThePyromaniac> guys, t0rc is a GENIOUS
[01:35] <mhz_ed> Chris_Tucker, sorry I am no help. never needed to try another sound card :)
[01:35] <[t0rc] > hwaara: go into preferences, then Chatting > General and then extra words to highlight on, try typing in ur friends nick.
[01:35] <nauseaboy> whoo breezy soon
[01:35] <ThePyromaniac> if you ever get the message "No valide device" when you install a SATA HD, make sure you no plug it in raid, and make sure plug is not upside down
[01:35] <collind> hm, i was reading through that - it says the driver currently supports radeon 8500 and later - this is a rage mobility p/m AGP 2x
[01:35] <collind> am i out of luck?
[01:35] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: fix it?
[01:35] <ThePyromaniac> that will definatly help...!
[01:35] <hwaara> [t0rc] , we already tried. I typed in his name but it doesn't react. maybe it doesn't react on user names but only the actual text
[01:35] <ThePyromaniac> t0rc i dont know, but it damn well should!
[01:36] <ThePyromaniac> cant belive how damn stupid that was of me
[01:36] <ThePyromaniac> cya soon i hope :D
[01:36] <Tb0n3> hi
[01:36] <ThePyromaniac> thanks man
[01:36] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: well, it should. if you want to use ur RAID slots, enable it in the BIOS.
[01:36] <luckyaba> anyone know about dual head setup?
[01:36] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: no problem. :)
[01:36] <amalthea> test
[01:36] <Tb0n3> I'm here using 5.04, and I'm new, so I can't figure out how to mount my hard drives... it made it easier in 5.10 live
[01:37] <[t0rc] > !fstab
[01:37] <ubotu> [t0rc] : I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:37] <dabaR> dooglus: brb.
[01:38] <dooglus> k
[01:38] <[t0rc] > luckyaba: i do. i know that I haven't gotten it to work with ATI drivers because it will not save the Control panel settings. :P all it does it clone for me. Although, I've heard that using xinerama and editing the xorg files it can be done,
[01:38] <shutson_> Question: What is the command to mount a ext3 filesystem on a seperate HD so that I can copy backups to it?
[01:38] <feugan3333> mout?
[01:38] <feugan3333> mount
[01:38] <pepsi> hi
[01:38] <collind> darn, basically just SOL for older than 8500 - anybody know of any workarounds or anything?
[01:39] <dabaR> dooglus: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2894
[01:39] <dabaR> as sudo, or not as sudo, same result.
[01:39] <shutson_> I need to be able to write and read it
[01:39] <[t0rc] > ThePyromaniac: the drive would probably work in your RAID slots, but unless you're using raid, i'd just put it in the normal SATA slot. If you for some reason wanted to use the RAID slot, make sure you find RAID and enable it in your BIOS settings. They're usually off by default and that would explain it. So either way it should work and fix you rissue.
[01:39] <dandel> does anyone here know why i can't get msn messenger to run under ubuntu?
[01:39] <dooglus> dabaR: does "pgrep hald" show anything
[01:39] <dabaR> cause you should use amsn or gaim.
[01:39] <[t0rc] > dandel: just use GAIM or Kopete.
[01:39] <dandel> i'm usin the gaim messenger, but it doesn't let me :|
[01:40] <dabaR> dooglus ya, it does, I have started it by sudo hald, and by sudo hald --daemon=yes.
[01:40] <pepsi> every time i boot, i have to do `setserial /dev/foo baud_base 1152000 divisor 4` for ttyS14, 15, 44, and 45.. is there a way to make those serial devices be recognized as ttyS2 to ttyS5? and set the parameters on them?
[01:40] <feugan3333> shutson: man mount
[01:40] <dabaR> dandel: doesn't let you what?
[01:40] <shutson_> ty
[01:40] <dooglus> dabaR: did that show you anything useful?
[01:41] <dooglus> dabaR: if not, try   sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes
[01:41] <dabaR> well, the process number, as it should likely.
[01:41] <dooglus> dabaR: that'll show you lots of output probably - maybe some of it telling you what's wrong?
[01:41] <dabaR> Oh, you mean starting it as daemon? ya, I did verbose, and it said everything fine.
[01:41] <dabaR> not lots at all.
[01:41] <dabaR> Ill show you.
[01:41] <dooglus> dabaR: I said "--daemon=no" in my line...
[01:42] <DukGalNamu> hehe, how do i play cds again?
[01:42] <feugan3333> dandel: apt-cache search msn
[01:42] <dooglus> dabaR: otherwise you won't see the verbose output
[01:42] <st1lgar> lol :)) watch alternative.nu with gxine for a new definition of remote desktop !
[01:42] <dandel> i'm workin on it
[01:43] <DukGalNamu> anyone?
[01:43] <DukGalNamu> please?
[01:43] <dabaR> dooglus: I did get an error with this no, no error with yes for daemon. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2896
[01:43] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: CD player
[01:43] <st1lgar> hmm, it's a blue screen now, but before the multiple reboots of an win2000 system were broadcasted :)
[01:44] <[t0rc] > DukGalNamu: yeah. the CD player.
[01:44] <dabaR> dooglus: verbose is the long output, daemon is daemon, or not.
[01:44] <[t0rc] > DukGalNamu: plays cds.
[01:44] <dabaR> I would think.
[01:44] <dooglus> dabaR: I think you'll need to kill the running hald before starting another one.  "sudo pkill hald"
[01:45] <dandel> eww ubuntu won't install yahoo messenger
[01:45] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: run "CD Player" under multimedia. I'm not running GNOME so I can't tell you exactly what to click.
[01:45] <dooglus> dandel: you can use 'gaim' to connect to the yahoo messenger network
[01:45] <dandel> i know
[01:45] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: i am not running gnome either so i woudln't know what to do...
[01:46] <dabaR> dooglus: off course, I did.
[01:46] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: What you running then?
[01:46] <ormandj> when inserting the wow dvd to install via cedega, ubuntu is mounting the macintosh partition and i don't see the windows partition, how can i fix this? do i have to manually mount it?
[01:46] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: fluxbox
[01:46] <GhostFreeman> what is the command to move directories?
[01:46] <ormandj> mv
[01:46] <dabaR> dooglus: I bet a reboot will fix it. Too bad to kill such a long uptime.
[01:46] <[t0rc] > ormandj: there's a fstab script that allows you to mount windows ntfs drives
[01:47] <[t0rc] > !ntfs
[01:47] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[01:47] <dabaR> I think Im gonna talk to my local linux friend about it first, cause I dont care that much about hald.
[01:47] <[t0rc] > !tell ormandj about ntfs
[01:47] <dooglus> dabaR: this is hoary, right?
[01:47] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: you can still run gnome-cd from the terminal.
[01:47] <ormandj> [t0rc] , i don't want to mount a windows drive, i don't have one.... :) i just want to have the dvd mounted, but the windows partition on it, not the mac (it's a hybrid dvd)
[01:47] <dandel> dooglus, it's just a simple error... 3 things missing somewhow... i used the debian package stuff... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2897
[01:47] <mae> I like the old lock-screen prompt better than the new one :
[01:47] <mae> \
[01:47] <Chris_Tucker> is there a hardware detection wizard like the one in the installer?
[01:48] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: true, actually i just downloaded dcd, but it doesn't seem to work, gives me can't open /dev/cdrom
[01:48] <dooglus> dandel: it's a woody package, so I don't think it will work with breezy anyway?
[01:48] <[t0rc] > ormandj: hmm...perhaps you shold explain this a little more. you've a windows partition on a dvd?
[01:48] <dabaR> dooglus: ya, it is.
[01:48] <dooglus> dabaR: so you'll be rebooting for breezy soon anyway?
[01:48] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: my guess would be because there is no /dev/cdrom
[01:49] <ormandj> [t0rc] , the dvd is a hybrid. it has a filesystem for macs, and a filesystem for windows machines. you can use the dvd to install wow on a macintosh, or also a windows machine
[01:49] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: do "ls -l /dev/cdrom"
[01:49] <ormandj> right now ubuntu is (for whatever reason) mounting the mac filesystem
[01:49] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: to make sure
[01:49] <ormandj> i need it to mount the windows filesystem
[01:49] <dooglus> dandel: did you try installing the missing packages?
[01:49] <dandel> uhh
[01:49] <[t0rc] > OooOoooooooooOoooOoooooOooooooo
[01:49] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: nope, not there
[01:49] <dabaR> dooglus: you really have to reboot to get breezy? meek:)), anyhow, no, I think I will wait a week, so that bugs get polished out.
[01:49] <[t0rc] > ormandj: well i understand but i've not a solution for you.
[01:49] <dandel> i don't know.... not real sure
[01:50] <dandel> yuck... xchat on linux is buggered... keeps erroring on how text is rendered :(
[01:50] <ormandj> [4441318.651000]  ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 1
[01:50] <ormandj> [4441318.695000]  ISOFS: changing to secondary root
[01:50] <kbrooks> dabaR: yes you have to reboot
[01:50] <dooglus> dabaR: breezy runs a different kernel...  you don't have to reboot to run breezy, but you do if you want to run breezy's kernel...
[01:50] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: well if it wants it to be there then put it there :-) using ln
[01:51] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: so ln /cdrom /dev/cdrom?
[01:51] <TvM> hi! i installed ubuntu in my laptop hp dv4000 and im geting these anoying msg
[01:51] <TvM> Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
[01:51] <TvM> every 2 s
[01:51] <dooglus> dandel: "sudo apt-get install libgdk-pixbuf2 libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libssl0.9.6"
[01:51] <tyler_durden> how can i install a certain nvidia driver set?
[01:51] <dooglus> dandel: I've no idea if those package names will be available, but it's worth a go
[01:51] <dandel> dooglas, i'll give that a try
[01:52] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: wait a bit, why is your cdrom not at /dev/cdrom?
[01:52] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: maybe casue i have two?
[01:52] <dandel> dooglus... how do i do a system update... via command?
[01:53] <dandel> i need to get gcc installed and all the developer tools
[01:53] <dooglus> dandel: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[01:53] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: do "ls -ld /dev/cdrom*"
[01:53] <dooglus> dandel: oh,i see.  to get gcc etc you "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:53] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: to see the names of your cdrom
[01:53] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: andrew@AndrewLX:~ $ ls -ld /dev/cdrom*
[01:53] <DukGalNamu> ls: /dev/cdrom*: No such file or directory
[01:54] <TvM> who knows who to fix these msg ?Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
[01:54] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: but you can browse cds?
[01:55] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: yeah
[01:56] <tyler_durden> hey is gdesklets down?
[01:56] <tyler_durden> grr i wanna download it :(
[01:57] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: well, you could insert a cd and then run mount to get the name of the device. But all this trickery should not be necessary, did you try gnome-cd?
[01:57] <thefoot> How is Wine at emulating COM ports in Ubuntu
[01:57] <Chris_Tucker> is there a hardware detection wizard like the one in the installer?
[01:57] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: i don't want to start a gnome app
[01:58] <dabaR> hopsing: whats up?
[01:58] <Tb0n3> question:I've installed 5.04 and my ntfs drives don't show up under computer, what would I do to mount them?
[01:58] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: have you looked at the man page for dcd, maybe there is an option to specify which device to use as a cdrom.
[01:59] <hopsing> Whats up ? Just standing by .
[01:59] <dabaR> hopsing: We live in the same city.
[01:59] <DukGalNamu> feugan3333: not yet, i will, but i have to go now, thanks for the help though
[01:59] <hopsing> oh yeh. mAybe a bit north of u .
[02:00] <TomFool> hi room
[02:00] <dabaR> how do you know? Are you in wpg, or outside the city? and how old are you?
[02:00] <feugan3333> DukGalNamu: sure
[02:00] <[t0rc] > !tell Tb0n3 about ntfs
[02:01] <hopsing> north of brandon . the ips are a giveaway. Age ?? really old :-)
[02:01] <dabaR> oki.
[02:01] <Chris_Tucker> is there a hardware detection wizard like the one in the installer?
[02:01] <kbrooks> Can someone try apt-get install jython and verify that it does install python 2.1?
[02:02] <TomFool> I have a question about running from the LiveCD. Can I mount my existing HD partition(s)? I'm relatively new to Linux, so am not sure if I need to create a "real" directory to use as a mount point.
[02:03] <TomFool> On a totally unrelated thought - amalthea, you have chosen a nick from one of my favorite books, and now I'll have to re-read it :)
[02:03] <yuacht> TomFool, yes you can mount them
[02:03] <[t0rc] > !tell TomFool about ntfs
[02:03] <zrothe> It seems like anything I try to install using apt-get install isn't found. Where can I find more repositories?
[02:03] <feugan3333> Tb0n3: Ubuntu does not automatically mount them, you can mount them using mount. But there is also a package that does it for you I just don't remember its name
[02:03] <cyborgcey> when I try to play music  I get the message dev/dsp file not there what do I need to do and where do I find the file
[02:03] <benkong2> I was in the final stages of an install. 1st loginto breezy and was letting updatemanager do its thing...power failure...now errors
[02:04] <Pshivers> sitting on XP right now and can't remember how to get to that list where you see all available programs, could someone guide me?
[02:04] <zrothe> !repositories
[02:04] <TomFool> I should have said, can I mount my ext3 partitions ... sorry ... I'm trying to recover from an upgrade from Hoary to Breezy that didn't quite go right
[02:04] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[02:04] <zrothe> :/
[02:04] <benkong2> update-manager cannot get a lock thinks apt-get or aptitude is running
[02:04] <zrothe> yay
[02:04] <nalioth> Pshivers: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <hopsing> Info!! I see a lot of questions that have really super answers on Ubuntu forums. A search for your problems will give you a lot super help.
[02:05] <benkong2> also /var/cache/apt/archives/libfontconfig1_2.3.2-1ubuntu4 fontconfig contains an empty file name
[02:05] <benkong2> What can I do?
[02:06] <Pshivers> nalioth, yeh but isn't there a menu in Ubuntu too? helping a mate
[02:06] <thefoot> How is Wine at emulating COM ports in Ubuntu
[02:06] <johhny> thefoot: Why dont you try and see if it works
[02:07] <burden> Im new to linux but looking to swtich, I cannot figure out how to actually "connect" to the internet ive already went through with pppconfig and done everything, anyone mind helping me out?
[02:07] <TvM> who knows who to fix these msg ?Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
[02:07] <Chris_Tucker> damn... my isa card slots arent working or these two sound cards are dead
[02:07] <nickrud> burden, what kind of modem card do you have?
[02:08] <nalioth> Pshivers: "apt-cache search <pkgname or string>"
[02:08] <burden> Ubuntu says: Gateway Red Owl, Conexant as its vendor, ive done echo atdt555555 >/dev/modem and i hear a click on the phone
[02:09] <sambagirl> is it safe to install games and applications for KDE in ubuntu? i did this the othrer time and i had to re-install ubuntu.
[02:09] <sambagirl> isuspecti it has todowith that war betweeng gnome and kde.
[02:09] <nalioth> sambagirl: use kynaptic
[02:09] <sambagirl> syaptic?
[02:09] <sambagirl> or kyaptic?
[02:10] <nalioth> sambagirl: use what you like. kynaptic synaptic apt-get aptitude adept or <ugh> kpackage
[02:10] <luckyaba> im having trouble with my repositories list... anyone know of a new one?
[02:11] <anethema> sambagirl, i do it all the time
[02:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell luckyaba about sources
[02:12] <johhny> sambagirl: Yeah that is safe
[02:12] <anethema> i run kde apps on gnome by having kde libs installed
[02:12] <anethema> works peachy usually
[02:12] <seife> Is there any way i can get my scanner working?
[02:12] <gmjonker> Hi all - Question: is writing to NTFS safe these days?
[02:13] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, i got my HD working :D
[02:13] <TomFool> Let me restate. I'm running Hoary LiveCD. I have ext3 and vfat partitions on my HD which I would like to mount so that I can backup data from the ext3 to the vfat. When I've backed up I want to install Breezy RC from a CD. This is all so that I can fix an apt-get upgrade to Breezy that went sour on me. I should have backed up *first* -- I know. My question is: how to mount the partitions while running from the LiveCD? I assume I need
[02:13] <TomFool> to create a directory to use as a mount point - and have no access to the HD to create the directory - so what do I do to create the mount point?
[02:13] <TvM> what package i have to install to run make...make install...
[02:13] <TvM> i guess i dont have gcc packages
[02:14] <nalioth> TvM: "build-essential"
[02:14] <gmjonker> luckyaba: how about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:14] <ThePyromaniac> i was just wondering, in setup you know it asks for the screen resolution sizes? thought id try and give it a higher resolution (the one above 1024x768) and now it has a black border around it. how can i change it to normal res? System -> Screen Resoltion does not work
[02:14] <feugan3333> TomFool: You create a directory under /mnt for example.
[02:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ThePyromaniac about fixres
[02:14] <TvM> thx nalioth
[02:14] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[02:14] <luckyaba> thank you
[02:14] <nickrud> burden, sorry for the wait, I had to refamiliarize myself with pppconfig (I lived there for years, but as I get older, I find I need to check myself)
[02:15] <TvM> nalioth do u know who to solve these?Incompatible medium installed -- (asc=0x30, ascq=0x00)
[02:15] <nickrud> burden, did pppconfig find your modem automagically?
[02:15] <TvM> every 2 s i get that msg
[02:15] <nalioth> TvM: not offhand, no
[02:16] <TomFool> feugan3333 - it's that simple? I mean, it's not a "real" directory ...
[02:16] <TomFool> feugan3333 - n/m; just tried it. It *is* that simple.
[02:16] <TomFool> cool
[02:16] <luckyaba> should i need my disk when install mplayer?
[02:16] <luckyaba> the ubuntu disc that is
[02:16] <thewayofzen> question:  upgrade to breezy.  went to run azureus and it hangs at the spash screen.  removed it with apt-get and found its not in the repos.   downloaded the tar.bz2 from sourceforge and unzipped it to /home/username/programs and when i try to run it i get a rush of scroll of this :  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2899
[02:16] <burden> no, but i knew it was on ttyS2
[02:17] <svizzero> If I install ubuntu from the dvd does it install more packages than the cd version?
[02:17] <gmjonker> luckyaba: not if you install if from the repositories
[02:17] <luckyaba> gmjonker: why is it asking me for the disk then?
[02:17] <nalioth> thewayofzen: uninstall all that gnu java mess
[02:17] <nalioth> thewayofzen: get this instead
[02:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thewayofzen about javadeb
[02:18] <svizzero> If I install ubuntu from the dvd does it install more packages than the cd version?
[02:18] <gmjonker> luckyaba: dont know, i installed mplayer today and it didnt ask me for the disk. maybe you should fix your repository list first.
[02:18] <luckyaba> gmjonker: i thought i did...
[02:18] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  will 386 debs work with 686 kernel ok?
[02:18] <tyler_durden> hey what port can i assign azureus to work?
[02:18] <tyler_durden> none of which i try actually work
[02:18] <gmjonker> luckyaba: does apt-get update go alright?
[02:18] <nalioth> svizzero: no. there is a live and install cdimage on the dvd
[02:18] <mhz_ed> one PCMCIA question. I managed to netboot (tftp) a laptop. Now it asks about mirrors. Any way it accepts to get all needed from PCMCIA CD drive?
[02:18] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  and im hoping apt-get remove java will do the job to get rid of it
[02:19] <magoo> Morning all, wondering if anybody could possibly answer me a question regarding Ubuntu as I'm new to Linux?
[02:19] <mhz_ed> magio, shoot
[02:19] <mhz_ed> magoo, shoot
[02:19] <nalioth> thewayofzen: yes 386 debs are fine
[02:19] <magoo> Is there a way to format a hd to FAT32 from within Ubuntu?
[02:19] <nalioth> thewayofzen: use synaptic and search for "java" in "packange names and contents"
[02:20] <anethema> magoo, yeah
[02:20] <tyler_durden> none of which i try actually work
[02:20] <tyler_durden> hey what port can i assign azureus to work?
[02:20] <luckyaba> it said something about dupluicate something or other
[02:20] <anethema> mkfs.msdos <device>
[02:20] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone!
[02:21] <luckyaba> gmjonker: yeah i just did it and it came back fine
[02:21] <magoo> k, cheers Anethema, I'll look into it :)
[02:22] <gmjonker> luckyaba: maybe you need to use the universe and multiverse repositories as well
[02:22] <gmjonker> dont know, just guessing
[02:22] <quux> running reiserfs - is there a way to set a quota on a directory? not groups or users quota ... just 'directory /foo should never exceed xx gigabytes'
[02:22] <gmjonker> Does anyone know if writing to NTFS is safe these days?
[02:23] <nalioth> gmjonker: only from windows
[02:23] <feugan3333> gmjonker: not that I know of.
[02:23] <gmjonker> ok... i won't then. thanks.
[02:24] <luckyaba> gmjonker: k im updating a new list right now...
[02:24] <thewayofzen> this is classic i need java to run azureus
[02:24] <thewayofzen> and i need azureus to download that java link
[02:24] <thewayofzen> CLASSIC
[02:24] <kbrooks> lol
[02:24] <nalioth> thewayofzen: no no. there are better bittorrent clients than azureus
[02:24] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  azureus is the one im used to.. thats the only reason i had java installed
[02:25] <thewayofzen> and its missing from the breezy repos
[02:25] <jvai> **
[02:25] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  what do u recommend then?
[02:25] <mazatl> Is there a way to revert from gcc 4.0 to gcc 3.4.4
[02:25] <nalioth> thewayofzen: azureus imho is not the best. i use bittornado
[02:25] <antix> any hints on getting ubuntu to recognize my second networking card? when I type "ifconfig eth1" I get "Device not found".. and both network cards work in the machine, but not at the same time?
[02:25] <thewayofzen> nalioth,  ill try it then
[02:25] <feugan3333> thewayofzen: download java from the sun site.
[02:25] <bytefoo> try uTorrent
[02:25] <bytefoo> its small and lightweight! :D
[02:25] <mhz_ed> one PCMCIA question. I managed to netboot (tftp) a laptop. Now it asks about mirrors. Any way it accepts to get all needed from PCMCIA CD drive?
[02:26] <nalioth> mazatl: in your terminal type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" before you compile something requiring it
[02:26] <nalioth> bytefoo: utorrent is for windows?
[02:27] <bytefoo> oops
[02:27] <bytefoo> i thoguht they made a linux version too :(
[02:27] <luckyaba> gmjonker: k i got it... i had the network ones uncommented.. commented them and it work fine now
[02:27] <bytefoo> its really small footprint though :/
[02:27] <feugan3333> lol
[02:27] <gmjonker> luckyaba: that's a good idea anyway :)
[02:27] <Weems> how can I merge my free space into my root partition on my hard drive?
[02:27] <martincho> Hi, I new with ubuntu
[02:27] <martincho> How can I compile with gcc?
[02:28] <jalvarezrom> thewayofzen, Breezy have a java installed (not propietary)
[02:28] <martincho> I can't found it
[02:28] <nalioth> martincho: first you need to install "build-essential"
[02:28] <thewayofzen> jalvarezrom,  i had java installed. it was azureus that woudlnt work
[02:28] <kbrooks> i want the sun java jre
[02:28] <thewayofzen> i removed it and went to reinstall and its gone
[02:28] <tuxedo_kamen> I need some help... I wanted to install the laste version, but I don't have a cd recorder, how can I do it?
[02:28] <martincho> nalioth,  when I install ubuntu for first time?
[02:28] <thewayofzen> so i installed bittorrnado on nalioth's recommendation and have no idea how to use it
[02:29] <kbrooks> thewayofzen: its trivial.
[02:29] <nalioth> thewayofzen: open a terminal and type btdownloadgui or btdownloadgui.py
[02:29] <kbrooks> use btdownloadgui.py
[02:29] <nalioth> martincho: build-essential has your gcc and other compiling tools in it
[02:29] <martincho> ah
[02:29] <martincho> ok
[02:29] <martincho> thanks
[02:29] <luckyaba> gmjonker: thanks for the help
[02:29] <ormandj> thewayofzen, you could just install the sun jdk or something :) there is a nice howto make a deb with it etc, even a package that does all the world for you
[02:30] <flatburden> Im new to linux but looking to swtich, I cannot figure out how to actually "connect" to the internet ive already went through with pppconfig and done everything, anyone mind helping me out?
[02:30] <ormandj> gjc is slower and more broken than sin
[02:30] <kbrooks> !java
[02:30] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[02:30] <thewayofzen> .py doesnt work
[02:30] <nalioth> kbrooks: !javadeb
[02:30] <ormandj> thewayofzen, you need python to run .py files
[02:30] <nalioth> ormandj: it is installed as a dependency of bittornado
[02:30] <thewayofzen> python is already the newest version
[02:31] <ormandj> nalioth: i see.
[02:31] <kbrooks> dont use blackdown ;)
[02:31] <kbrooks> !javadeb
[02:31] <ubotu> methinks javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[02:31] <thewayofzen> its installed already
[02:31] <ormandj> thewayofzen: then run python blahblah.py
[02:31] <jalvarezrom> I use Azureus in Breezy and work with java-common. Don't need install Sun java
[02:31] <ormandj> jalvarezrom, it's fast enough to be usable?
[02:31] <thewayofzen> python: can't open file 'btdownloadgui.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[02:31] <ormandj> thewayofzen, uh, ls *.py
[02:31] <funkyHat_> can i force apt to install a package with unresolved dependencies?
[02:31] <ormandj> you sure you put the files in that directory? :P
[02:32] <ormandj> funky -f
[02:32] <jalvarezrom> ormandj, I use it little
[02:32] <ormandj> man apt-get
[02:32] <ormandj> or use dpkg
[02:32] <funkyHat_> ormandj, -f doesn't work, i was hoping not to have to use dpkg :P
[02:32] <flatburden> :/
[02:33] <tyler_durden> whats a good webbrowser? firefox sucks on linux
[02:33] <ormandj> funkyHat, well you're asking it to install something in a non-traditional method which will more than likely cause a lot of problems :P
[02:33] <ormandj> i don't blame it :P
[02:33] <ormandj> tyler_durden, firefox works great for me, faster than windows
[02:33] <tyler_durden> not for me, its sluggish on my ubuntu
[02:33] <tyler_durden> very choppy
[02:33] <bytefoo> o_O
[02:33] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: RAM
[02:33] <ormandj> tyler_durden, rendering issues? what video card?
[02:33] <bytefoo> epiphany?
[02:33] <othernoob> tyler_durden: Opera
[02:33] <tyler_durden> i got 768
[02:33] <ormandj> or ram :)
[02:33] <tyler_durden> fx 5500
[02:33] <nalioth> tyler_durden: galeon, kazehakase, epiphany, dillo, konqueror, and on and on
[02:33] <ormandj> probably video card stuff. did you install nvidia drivers?
[02:33] <bytefoo> :D
[02:34] <tyler_durden> yes
[02:34] <jalvarezrom> Is there a translator or proyect to translate like Babylon for linux ?
[02:34] <bobp> how do I import from yahoo address list to evolution?
[02:34] <thewayofzen> ok
[02:34] <thewayofzen> i figured out how to get bittornado to work
[02:34] <thewayofzen> do i need to open any ports
[02:34] <cowbud> is there a way to stop nautilus from complaining if the .extension and the mime type do not match. For example .m3u is not a .m3u file but a text file and nautilus refuses to do the default action unless I use the menus..
[02:35] <Xanadu> hello all
[02:35] <Jeromee> hi
[02:35] <Xanadu> very quiet here tonight
[02:36] <tyler_durden> how do i put a new shortcut in the application menu?
[02:36] <Jeromee> seems like it yeah
[02:36] <Jeromee> lol.
[02:36] <Jeromee> speak of the devil ;)
[02:36] <Xanadu> lol
[02:36] <Xanadu> anyone know when breezy final is coming out?
[02:36] <luckyaba> gmjonker: i just installed mplayer and now i have like 400  programs for updatinjg?
[02:36] <Jeromee> october 13th
[02:36] <kbrooks> Xanadu: 13th
[02:36] <luckyaba> gmjonker: is that normal... lol?
[02:36] <Xanadu> kewl - that official date yet?
[02:37] <kbrooks> Xanadu: yes
[02:37] <Jeromee> Heres the real question, if I were to install breezy now, would i be able to update to the Final Release?
[02:37] <jvai> hey uall, how do i change my text color as it appears in the chat box?
[02:37] <ormandj> Xanadu, it's on the website
[02:37] <ormandj> so i'd say yes
[02:37] <FireCat> Does anyone know where you can get saslauthd for Breezy, or what package it might reside in?
[02:38] <Xanadu> FireCat: do you mean sslauthd?
[02:38] <ormandj> firecat: cyrus?
[02:38] <bobp> how do I import from yahoo address list to evolution? -- worked fine a year ago, but my bad -- forgot and can't find it in docs
[02:39] <ormandj> FireCat, assuming you're attempting to setup SMTP auth?
[02:39] <NightBird> hey, how do I renew the ip address?
[02:39] <FireCat> No, openldap
[02:39] <flatburden> I cannot figure out how to actually "connect" to the internet ive already went through with pppconfig and done everything, anyone mind helping me out?
[02:39] <ormandj> FireCat, well, ldap sucks or i'm just dumb :P let me pmsg, i'll help you out
[02:40] <tuxedo_kamen> I need some help... I wanted to install the laste version, but I don't have a cd recorder, how can I do it???
[02:40] <Xanadu> NightBird: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[02:40] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: got a network handy?
[02:41] <NightBird> hm.... odd...
[02:41] <n0odl3> how do i set up a sound card
[02:41] <n0odl3> ?
[02:42] <Xanadu> N0odl3: what sound card?
[02:42] <tyler_durden> whats the command to uninstall using apt-get?
[02:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about smeg
[02:42] <mazatl> alsaconf ?
[02:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about apt-get
[02:42] <jalvarezrom> flatburden, do you have router or modem?
[02:42] <flatburden> :( maybe tommorow
[02:42] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, kinda...
[02:42] <n0odl3> Xanadu: its a soundblaster
[02:42] <tyler_durden> haha nalioth
[02:42] <tyler_durden> thanks
[02:42] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: ubuntu is designed to keep itself updated
[02:42] <Xanadu> tyler_durden: apt-get remove programname
[02:43] <tyler_durden> oh remove! i tried uninstall and it didnt work
[02:43] <tyler_durden> okie
[02:43] <Xanadu> n0odl3: it should pick it up automatically
[02:43] <n0odl3> i cant get any sound
[02:43] <flatburden> modem
[02:43] <amalthea> what irc command do i use to see when a specific nick was on the channel last?
[02:43] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah, but I have warty and I wanted to install the new one, but I seem to have to download it from a portuguese website, since in my country we have an international download limit! :|
[02:43] <n0odl3> Xanadu: i still cant get sound
[02:43] <luckyaba> i have a list of like 150 packages i CAN NOT update
[02:44] <mazatl> amalthea, use tab
[02:44] <mazatl> type the first few letters, then hit tab
[02:44] <jalvarezrom> I don't know how to with modem I have router and ethernet card installed
[02:44] <Xanadu> n0odl3: Click System -> Preferences -> Sound
[02:44] <n0odl3> ok
[02:44] <luckyaba> wh yis that?
[02:44] <Xanadu> n0odl3: check that your soundblaster is selected as the sound card
[02:44] <mazatl> ohh....... maybe /whowas ?
[02:44] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: then you are out of luck either way. getting an iso image is just as much as using apt-get
[02:44] <mazatl> ./whowas <nick>
[02:45] <funkyHat_> ok, how can i create a psuedo package to fix the problems we're having with libqtc102-mt?
[02:45] <n0odl3> how do i check that?
[02:45] <n0odl3> all there is is just a bunch of select sound stuff
[02:45] <Xanadu> n0odl3: there's a drop-down with your sound cards listed
[02:45] <funkyHat_> i just need it to be empty and depend on libqt3-mt
[02:45] <n0odl3> which tab?
[02:45] <amalthea> mazatl: thanks
[02:45] <Xanadu> n0odl3: General - Default sound card
[02:46] <tyler_durden> how do i remove a program that i installed using a launcher? ati drivers for example
[02:46] <funkyHat_> skype being 'broken' is stopping me from upgrading >:(
[02:46] <n0odl3> im in that tab but theres nothing there
[02:46] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, but if I download an image can I install all the new content from there?
[02:46] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: yes you can
[02:46] <Xanadu> n0odl3: do you have the little speaker icon at the top right of your screen?
[02:46] <n0odl3> no
[02:46] <n0odl3> i dont have that icon
[02:47] <Xanadu> funkyHat_: stop u from upgrading what>
[02:47] <tyler_durden> how do i remove a program that i installed using a launcher? ati drivers for example
[02:47] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, and how exactly can I do it? (also, how do I check my version of the system?)
[02:47] <funkyHat> Xanadu, it's just stopping me from updating packages...
[02:47] <tyler_durden> nobody knows the answer tot hat?
[02:47] <funkyHat> Xanadu, because it thinks skype is broken
[02:47] <Xanadu> funkyHat u tried uninstalling it?
[02:48] <Xanadu> tyler_durden what do u mean a launcher?
[02:48] <tyler_durden> a .sh
[02:48] <funkyHat> Xanadu, no, i know why it's broken, and i know what needs doing to fix it, i just need to know how to create a psuedo package in order to do that
[02:48] <tyler_durden> not console or anything
[02:48] <n0odl3> xanadu i dont have that icon
[02:48] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: open a terminal and type either "lsb_release -a" or "cat /etc/issue"
[02:48] <funkyHat> Xanadu, skype depends on libqt3c102-mt, which is replaced in breezy by libqt3-mt
[02:48] <Xanadu> n0odl3 that's weird it should work automatically
[02:49] <tuxedo_kamen> hum, ok
[02:49] <n0odl3> Xanadu do you think im sound card isnt fully plugged in?
[02:49] <tuxedo_kamen> nalioth, so how exactly do I use the *.iso to directly update my system?
[02:49] <Xanadu> funkyHat u just need to build it with the libqt3 packages - instructions are on skype forums
[02:49] <ormandj> when you type "exit" when you have multiple terminals open
[02:49] <ormandj> it crashes terminal :P
[02:49] <funkyHat> it would take them all of 5 seconds
[02:49] <ormandj> can somebody else verify that?
[02:50] <Xanadu> n0odl3 that's highly likely
[02:50] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: when you get it, you put it in your machine, and type "apt cdrom" and follow the prompts
[02:50] <funkyHat> like it took me, but now it's broken
[02:50] <funkyHat> * 'broken'
[02:50] <n0odl3> Xanadu alright ill try and look into it
[02:50] <Xanadu> ormandj not for me
[02:50] <n0odl3> thank you
[02:50] <antix> anybody using 2 networking cards in the same machine? I can't find the other with ifconfing....?
[02:50] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: then "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade"
[02:50] <ormandj> xanadu: two gngome terminals running, you type "exit" in one, the window closes, you dont get a crash msg then?
[02:50] <funkyHat> all they need to do is make it depend on libqt3c102-mt OR libqt3-mt
[02:51] <zapada> does ubuntu come with wine?
[02:51] <cius> hello
[02:51] <Xanadu> ormandj not for me
[02:51] <ormandj> weird, it doesn't for me now too. you must be good luck xanadu :P
[02:51] <Xanadu> apada breezy certainly does
[02:51] <antix> eth1: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[02:51] <cius> would anyone happen to know if its possible to resize both my ntfs and ext3 partitions after install?
[02:51] <Xanadu> ormandj :)
[02:52] <GhostFreeman> what's the name of a good irc bot for Linux
[02:52] <Xanadu> antix check your /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:52] <ormandj> zapada, if you're going to use it for games, just break down and pay for cedega, it really is the best option. i've got eve-online and wow working great, and i have a crappy ATI card, so that says something
[02:52] <Xanadu> cius with something like partitionmagic, yes
[02:52] <ormandj> just installed the point2play deb
[02:52] <ormandj> and let it install the rest
[02:52] <zapada> ormandj: i want it to emulate Internet Call Manager
[02:52] <ormandj> its worth the 5 bucks a month heh
[02:52] <ormandj> zapada, oh, well then - use wine :P
[02:52] <cius> Xanadu, what about a live cd?
[02:53] <zapada> ormandj: but is it free?
[02:53] <macgeek> ok i want to install ubuntu server, is that the same as the base system?
[02:53] <ormandj> wine is
[02:53] <hosler> zapada, or download cedega and point2play from kazaa. thats what i did
[02:53] <zapada> and can i get wine to emulate it on startup and have it run in background?
[02:53] <ormandj> macgeek: type "server" at the prompt for install
[02:53] <nalioth> macgeek: it's less, actually
[02:53] <Xanadu> zapada breezy has much better wine support - a lot more works out of the box
[02:53] <zapada> cedega eh? never heard of it
[02:53] <ormandj> transgaming.com
[02:53] <ormandj> but it's geared for games
[02:53] <zapada> Xanadu: what's breezy?
[02:53] <ormandj> not what you're talking about
[02:53] <Xanadu> cius I would not advise it since NTFS support for Linux is "experimental"
[02:53] <macgeek> ormandj: ok thanks
[02:53] <ormandj> zapada: breezy is ubuntu 5.10
[02:53] <ormandj> macgeek: np
[02:53] <Xanadu> zapada the next version of ubuntu coming out next week
[02:53] <zapada> ah ok, i have 5.10
[02:53] <sumon> how do i force quit something in ubuntu?
[02:54] <zapada> wait
[02:54] <zapada> nevermind
[02:54] <zapada> lol
[02:54] <zapada> i have 5.04
[02:54] <zapada> i think
[02:54] <ormandj> :P
[02:54] <Xanadu> sumon killall yourappname
[02:54] <zapada> so i should wait for 5.10?
[02:54] <martincho> build-essential comes with the ubuntu cd?
[02:54] <ormandj> sumon, open a termal, type "ps aux" then kill -9 PID
[02:54] <martincho> Or I must Install from Internet?
[02:54] <ormandj> changing PID to the process
[02:54] <nalioth> martincho: yes
[02:54] <sumon> great thanks
[02:54] <Xanadu> sumon or if it's a window type alt-f2, xkill, and click on the offending window
[02:54] <martincho> thanks again :)
[02:54] <cius> Xanadu, I used the ntfs resize when i installed my current ubuntu setup and it worked fine, but I wasn't sure what doing it *after* the install would take.
[02:55] <johhny> cius: with breezy, or hoary?
[02:55] <Xanadu> cius if there's nothing important on the drive you can try it ;)
[02:55] <cius> johhny, hoary
[02:55] <Xanadu> cius i strongly suggest partitionmagic for that stuff - it's hard-core
[02:55] <cius> xanadu, thanks, I might have to try that
[02:55] <johhny> cius: So I am guessing it would work perfectly fine on hoary also
[02:55] <nalioth> cius: use qtparted
[02:56] <cius> xanadu, is it free?
[02:56] <Xanadu> cius i'm afraid not
[02:56] <MEtaLpREs> can someone give me ahand getting my 2 extra hard drives mounted? i never had a problem getting drives mounted in any other distro but it just doesnt seem to want to go in ubuntu
[02:56] <zapada> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=195 <--- that's the app that i want to emulate... since its in that databse, does that mean it will work?
[02:56] <Xanadu> cius gparted might do the job - not sure tho
[02:56] <yannick_> hi everybody
[02:56] <cius> xanadu, not too much help to me right now then, alas I'm a poor college student
[02:56] <tyler_durden> can somebody pleaese tell me why ubuntu is so choppy? or any linux in htat matter... i have a celeron 2.5, 768 ram and an fx 5500
[02:56] <nalioth> Xanadu: qtparted uses ntfsresize. gparted does not
[02:56] <antix> Xanadu, don't I have to get the system to recognize eth1 first?
[02:56] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to install java on ubuntu
[02:56] <cius> nalioth, I'll look into it
[02:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell n0odl3 about javadeb
[02:57] <nalioth> cius: see my comment to Xanadu above
[02:57] <antix> Xanadu, /etc/network/interfaces is just for configuring it?
[02:57] <n0odl3> what is javadeb?
[02:57] <yannick_> I have this strange problem when trying to open a divx : Failed to play: Internal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug.
[02:57] <tyler_durden> ubotu tell tylerdurden about ubotu
[02:57] <yannick_> I don't know what to do
[02:57] <nalioth> tyler_durden: please communicate privately with ubotu
[02:57] <cius> xanadu, nalioth, and johhny, thanks for the help, I'll be back shortly hopefully to let you know how it goes.  I'll probly try qtparted first.  if i have to reinstall, no big, I won't cry much :-)
[02:57] <tyler_durden> i was trying to find out how
[02:57] <Xanadu> antix /etc/network/interfaces is read by ifup and ifdown on startup and shutdown and creates the eth0, eth1 etc etc links
[02:58] <tyler_durden> he wont say anything when i "what is xxx"
[02:58] <Xanadu> cius good luck dude!
[02:58] <nalioth> tyler_durden: first you ahve to be identified to services
[02:58] <tyler_durden> ooh
[02:58] <n0odl3> wait i dont get it?
[02:58] <n0odl3> what am i suppose to do now?
[02:58] <yannick_> nobody has this message before ?
[02:58] <phoenixbyrd> n0odl3: fart
[02:58] <nalioth> n0odl3: choose your java and download it
[02:58] <ProN00b> fuck
[02:58] <nalioth> ProN00b: language please
[02:59] <n0odl3> uhh i have 5.94
[02:59] <n0odl3> i mean5.04
[02:59] <Xanadu> n0odle: system/admin/package manager
[02:59] <n0odl3> which one do i choose?
[02:59] <nalioth> n0odl3: so get the java for hoary
[02:59] <Xanadu> n0odle: system/admin/synaptic package manager
[02:59] <ProN00b> nautilus really freezes everytime i try to copy some big files from one disk to another
[02:59] <Xanadu> n0odle: then search for java under name and description
[02:59] <n0odl3> ok i went to the site and there are 3 links
[02:59] <ProN00b> can anyone say reproducable ?
[02:59] <nalioth> Xanadu: n0odl3 is using a factoid, not synaptic
[02:59] <N6REJ> evening everyone.... how can I tell breezy to NOT start the gui on boot?  the gui is causing the system to freeze.
[03:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Xanadu about javadeb
[03:00] <tyler_durden> so how do i remove a program and how do i remove an icon from the applications menu? i cant remove it from smeg because its kinda seperate
[03:00] <vranghel> hello
[03:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tyler_durden about smeg
[03:00] <tyler_durden> ugh i have it already
[03:00] <n0odl3> which link am i suppose to click
[03:00] <tyler_durden> i tried removing the icon but the icon didnt come with ubuntu so it isnt listed in the icon list
[03:00] <vranghel> can anyone tell me how run a livecd from thumb drive?
[03:00] <N6REJ> nalioth: evening... even vesa won't work :(
[03:01] <antix> Xanadu, can I just run /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[03:01] <nalioth> n0odl3: get the 1.5j2re
[03:01] <n0odl3> there is a parent directory then sun-j2rel.<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:01] <n0odl3> ok
[03:01] <nalioth> N6REJ: sorry to hear that
[03:01] <Xanadu> antix or ifup eth1
[03:01] <n0odl3> so am i suppose to save it to a disk or something?
[03:01] <vranghel> do i need to do anything else other than setting bios to boot from USB?
[03:01] <nalioth> n0odl3: yes
[03:01] <Xanadu> antix it should give you a message to tell u how it's getting on (unlike ifconfig up)
[03:01] <N6REJ> nalioth: I've decided not to worry about it for not as I can handle shell, but I need to turn off the booting into the gui logon screen.  How can I do that?
[03:02] <nalioth> N6REJ: i'm not sure
[03:02] <antix> Xanadu, Ignoring unkown interface eth1=eth1
[03:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell N6REJ about bum
[03:03] <vranghel> can u guys tell me how to run a livecd from USB?
[03:03] <Xanadu> antix dmesg to check that it detected the card and such
[03:03] <n0odl3> ok im done d/ling it now what?
[03:03] <amalthea> how do i solve this error: "E: failed to find /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz, have you done <pbuilder create> to create your base tarball yet?
[03:03] <amalthea> "
[03:03] <N6REJ> nalioth: yeah its a bum alright :P
[03:03] <johhny> vranghel: live cd. Read the word live cd
[03:03] <amalthea> when running sudo pbuilder build *.dsc
[03:03] <N6REJ> <---------- goes away to RTFM
[03:04] <amalthea> i've run pbuilder create
[03:04] <macgeek> i got an error when trying to install ubuntu on my hp. it said i should try burning at a slower speed. something like, 'couldn't retrieve reisersparg' or something like that
[03:04] <macgeek> anyone else gotten this? what should i do?
[03:04] <mwright1night> hp laptops are great
[03:04] <vranghel> i've read that by making the machine boot from USB and by having the files on the thumb drive it should work
[03:04] <Xanadu> macgeek i did - taking out the cd and rubbing it carefully a bit helped
[03:04] <antix> Xanadu, looks like it didn't... :(
[03:05] <mwright1night> I'm biased though as I work for HP
[03:05] <macgeek> Xanadu: like cleaning it?
[03:05] <antix> Xanadu, can I do anything to make it detect it? swap them?!
[03:05] <n0odl3> so what do i do after i downloaded the thing?>
[03:05] <Xanadu> antix then first u should sort out the drivers for the card
[03:05] <nalioth> macgeek: yes it's a common bug. check your md5s on your iso image and burn it really slow
[03:05] <st1lgar> don't "free the fish" !
[03:05] <Xanadu> macgeek yup
[03:05] <Xanadu> antix what card is it?
[03:05] <ssdd65> is there a way to upgrade to breezy from the cd rather than downloading the updates?
[03:05] <nalioth> ssdd65: yes
[03:05] <crazeej> hey guys, where's the backports link(s)???
[03:06] <macgeek> nalioth: md5s?
[03:06] <ssdd65> ?
[03:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crazeej about backports
[03:06] <crazeej> ...for breezy?
[03:06] <antix> Xanadu, I used the first card and that worked. then I put in the second card and that works (as eth0) but not the first card as eth1..
[03:06] <nalioth> ssdd65: you asked a question. the answer is yes
[03:06] <Xanadu> same type of card antix?
[03:06] <n0odl3> hello
[03:06] <antix> Xanadu, first card is 3com fast etherlink XL
[03:06] <n0odl3> what do i do now?
[03:06] <ssdd65> how do i upgrade from the cd?
[03:06] <crazeej> ok....what about the w32 codecs??
[03:07] <antix> Xanadu, second (now eth0) is digital 21140
[03:07] <tyler_durden> is there an active firewall in ububtu?
[03:07] <nalioth> ssdd65: put the cd in your machine, type "apt cdrom" and follow the prompts
[03:07] <nalioth> tyler_durden: no there is not
[03:07] <Xanadu> ssdd65: stick in the breezy cd and open synaptic and add it as a repository
[03:07] <tyler_durden> then how come i cant make azureus work?
[03:07] <nalioth> ubuntulog: tell crazeej about w32codecs
[03:07] <n0odl3> nalioth what do i do after i get it?
[03:07] <ssdd65> ahhhh
[03:07] <Xanadu> antix the 3coms not working?
[03:07] <ssdd65> thanks
[03:07] <tyler_durden> Testing port 6881 ... NAT Error
[03:07] <nalioth> n0odl3: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[03:07] <tyler_durden> and i dont have a firewall
[03:07] <ProN00b> how do i generally get ubuntu to redetect hardware (like it did on install) ?
[03:07] <pupil>  is there a windows manager for gnome that looks like windows xp.. I'm asking because my wife won't let me keep just linux on my puter unless it looks like windows,. and I really don't want to install widows
[03:08] <nalioth> pupil: www.xpde.com
[03:08] <Xanadu> tyler_durden just carry on regardless - it should still work
[03:08] <tyler_durden> well id still liket o know what the problem is
[03:08] <tyler_durden> its not downloading anything
[03:08] <macgeek> pupil: if its your computer, you can do whatever you want :P
[03:08] <pupil> nalioth, Thank you,. your always a help to me and I appreciat it
[03:08] <antix> Xanadu, yes the 3com is not working now with the digital in..
[03:08] <Xanadu> tyler_durden you're going through a nat gateway
[03:08] <tyler_durden> what does that mean and how do i fix it?
[03:08] <nalioth> pupil: np
[03:08] <Xanadu> was the 3com working before?
[03:08] <pupil> macgeek, your either not married,. or its not a happy marriage,. lol
[03:08] [crazeej(n=crazeej@<IP_ADDRESS>)]  w32codecs
[03:08] <antix> Xanadu, I can try and swap slots and see if it's the other way around then?
[03:09] <Xanadu> antix you can try but i doubt it will make a difference
[03:09] <n0odl3> nalioth i got "dpkg: error processing file.deb (--install: cannot access archive: no such file or directtory
[03:09] <crazeej> nalioth, the ubuntulog-w32codecs thing didn't work out...i'm still clueless
[03:09] <n0odl3> errors were encountered while processing file.deb
[03:09] <nalioth> n0odl3: have you downloaded it? is it a .torrent?
[03:09] <nalioth> n0odl3: use the name of the file
[03:09] <n0odl3> no its not a .torrent
[03:09] <n0odl3> and yes i downloaded it
[03:09] <n0odl3> ok
[03:09] <tyler_durden> omg i cant believe this. how can linux be so damn slow and choppy?!
[03:10] <bobp> MEtaLpREs: 1) mkdir /my2nd disk, then 2) edit /etc/fstab and add a new entry -- ntfs was needed to mount my XP disk "/dev/hda1	/winxt		ntfs	ro,user		0	1" worked fine for me -- hope it's not too newbie an answer :)
[03:10] <Xanadu> n0odl3 try running the install with sudo
[03:10] <tyler_durden> i so regret uninstalling windows for htis
[03:10] <macgeek> nalioth: you said check the md5s? what do you mean?
[03:10] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: dont
[03:10] <pupil> nalioth, is there a deb package for xpde ?
[03:10] <nalioth> macgeek: iso images are checksummed with an algorythm called md5
[03:10] <tyler_durden> windows was never this slow. i feel like i have 32 mb memory in linux
[03:10] <nalioth> pupil: no, just whats on the website
[03:10] <Xanadu> tyler_durden it just takes a bit of getting used to - like windowz did all those years ago. Then when you go back you'll be like "What is this sh*t?"
[03:10] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: linux is NOT windows. dumbing down the interface makes linux ... harder
[03:10] <tyler_durden> well if only it wasnt so choppy
[03:11] <nalioth> macgeek: you check your iso image against the md5 sum on the download page to see if its the same image
[03:11] <macgeek> nalioth: i know what md5 is, but i never saw mention of it when burning. im burning on mac os x using firestarter fx
[03:11] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: define chopy.
[03:11] <Xanadu> tyler_durden what machine u running it on?
[03:11] <nalioth> macgeek: if you know md5, check em
[03:11] <crazeej> nalioth, can you help me out with the w32 codecs help one more time??
[03:11] <tyler_durden> celeron 2.6 768 ram nvidia fx 5500 with drivers isntalled correctly
[03:11] <chis`> I'm trying to gt connected.. it said it detected it all for my wireless connection, but it hasn't , so I decided to hook up the wired, and like, well, i don't know how to configure it, I goto Network settings, have to pull down the menu to the bottom to see admin, I hit admin, type in my password, and it just refuses it (well it doesn't say that, but fuck all happens :/). So i'm sorta.. stuck
[03:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crazeej about w32codecs
[03:11] <zapada> has anyone here gotten a winmodem to work with ubuntu?
[03:11] <Xanadu> tyler_durden it shouldn't be choppy :(
[03:12] <macgeek> nalioth: how? i just know what md5 *is*
[03:12] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: celeron -- what speed?
[03:12] <tyler_durden> celeron 2.5
[03:12] <tyler_durden> 2500..
[03:12] <kbrooks> 2.5 ghz?
[03:12] <nalioth> macgeek: in OSX type md5 blah.iso against your iso image
[03:12] <Xanadu> chris' u sure you typing the right password?
[03:12] <chis`> ok, if i enter a wrong password it tells me, if it's right, it still doesn't let me access the network interfaces. lalal joy joy i think i have a fucked copy tbh
[03:12] <tyler_durden> and i know it shouldnt be choppy :( but all linux's i tried were choppy
[03:12] <tyler_durden> i dont understand
[03:12] <nalioth> macgeek: compare the md5 to the one on the ubuntu download page
[03:13] <Chris_Tucker> clawson\] [\'
[03:13] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: linux is not windows. understood?
[03:13] <Chris_Tucker> wtf]
[03:13] <macgeek> nalioth: ok, how do i get the one on the ubuntu page? do they have it just sitting there?
[03:13] <tyler_durden> why does it matter? im not exactly comparing them, but u certainly can see a big performance difference
[03:13] <nalioth> macgeek: it should be on the same page you got the iso from
[03:13] <nalioth> tyler_durden: no trolling please
[03:13] <kbrooks> nalioth: he isnt
[03:13] <chis`> roooarr just let me access the god dammned network interfaces so i can make it automatically detect my connection! :(((((((
[03:13] <st1lgar> h tyler_durden, you have really have a gift to upset ppl here =)
[03:13] <tyler_durden> how am i trolling?
[03:14] <Xanadu> tyler_durden I can see a big performance difference - windowz dragged on my machine, linux is smooth and fast
[03:14] <tyler_durden> what r u talking about sigh?
[03:14] <tyler_durden> thats really weird
[03:14] <tyler_durden> i hate this. it takes about 5 seconds to open/change something
[03:14] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: you have a strange configurawtion
[03:14] <n0odl3> it keeps on telling me it cant find the file
[03:14] <st1lgar> tyler_durden: i agree with you, gnome is slower than xp on my computer too
[03:14] <n0odl3> its on my desktop
[03:14] <kbrooks> nalioth: go on.
[03:14] <antix> Xanadu, now I only get a eth1 (the digital) and no eth0..
[03:14] <Xanadu> tyler_durden you might have something messed up on your machine like bad vid drivers or something
[03:15] <tyler_durden> i have the drivers installed fine
[03:15] <n0odl3> i just extracted the files
[03:15] <n0odl3> but where do i extract them from?
[03:15] <antix> Xanadu, so it seems the 3com will not work with the digital in...
[03:15] <chis`> Administrative mode seems to be failing altogether, worked earyler.. what have i done :/
[03:15] <tyler_durden> its the exact same speed on all the linux's ive tried in the past
[03:15] <macgeek> nalioth: i dont see an md5 here: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[03:15] <Xanadu> antix if the 3com worked before with the digital out, it'll work with the digital in
[03:15] <nalioth> macgeek: scroll down
[03:15] <antix> Xanadu, any way to have both cards work?
[03:15] <Xanadu> antix i'm afraid i'm a bit rusty on network card configs
[03:16] <Xanadu> antix msg me your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:16] <antix> Xanadu, ok but thanks anyway.. and the 3com did work before. strange...
[03:16] <macgeek> nalioth: i did
[03:16] <pupil> nalioth, to decompress a file whats the command.  its a tar.gz file
[03:16] <tyler_durden> how can i install a different driver set for my nvidia?
[03:16] <n0odl3> i dont know how to use the command
[03:16] <st1lgar> starting ff when another 1 is already running takes 5 sec, gedit fresh: 3s and gedit with another gedit running < 1s
[03:16] <n0odl3> arrgh
[03:16] <tyler_durden> id like to install the 66's
[03:17] <st1lgar> with xp they all take < 1 sec
[03:17] <Xanadu> tyler_durden - download from nvidia's site and make sure you have build-essential
[03:17] <nalioth> pupil: may i recommend "man tar" ?? and 'tar xvzf file.tar.gz'
[03:17] <macgeek> nalioth: nevermind i found it
[03:17] <tyler_durden> what is build essential?
[03:17] <nalioth> macgeek: click on 'md5sums'
[03:17] <pupil> nalioth, you may,. thanks,. I keep forgetting theres are man pages
[03:17] <nalioth> tyler_durden: it is a metapkg containing several compilation programs
[03:17] <Xanadu> tyler_durden it's the headers and compilers for building programs from source - like you'll need to build the nvidia drivers from source
[03:18] <tyler_durden> what?! im a 2 day linux noob how will i be able to compile/build?
[03:18] <Xanadu> antix does "dmesg | grep 3com -i" get you anything?
[03:18] <nalioth> tyler_durden: it is easy. just follow the directions
[03:18] <tyler_durden> ok and where do i get that?
[03:18] <n0odl3> ok does anyone really know how to install java?
[03:18] <tyler_durden> from their website as well?
[03:18] <nalioth> n0odl3: you install the deb you download
[03:18] <n0odl3> i have the .deb file on my desktop
[03:18] <n0odl3> how do i install it
[03:18] <nalioth> tyler_durden: all software comes via apt-get or synaptic
[03:18] <Xanadu> tyler_durden sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:18] <macgeek> is there a unix command for comparing 2 strings?
[03:19] <nalioth> n0odl3: you run "sudo dpkg -i whatever-file-you-have.deb"
[03:19] <nalioth> macgeek: diff
[03:19] <n0odl3> i did
[03:19] <crazeej> is it just me...or is Firefox giving a lot of Chrome/XML Parsing errors???
[03:19] <macgeek> nalioth: thanks
[03:19] <pupil> nalioth I want to add xpde to the window managers,. I take it I will have to edit th .xinitrc file,. do you know where its located?
[03:20] <nalioth> pupil: i personally would not follow those instructions
[03:20] <antix> Xanadu, yes that gives the info on the 3com card
[03:20] <n0odl3> nalioth it is on my desktop
[03:20] <nalioth> pupil: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[03:20] <n0odl3> should it be in some particular place?
[03:20] <macgeek> nalioth: that compares 2 files... is there a command to compare 2 strings? (such as an md5 checksum)
[03:20] <N6REJ> nalioth: I got the 54g working after several hours and attempts... The hoary wiki was close to the solution but needs a minor change to work for breezy and the f5d7001, I'd like to pass my experience on to save others the countless hours I spent.  How can I do that.
[03:20] <pupil> nalioth, I'm not using kubuntu though
[03:20] <nalioth> n0odl3: open a terminal and cd to the Desktop, run "sudo dpkg -i sun<tab>"
[03:20] <nalioth> macgeek: use your mark one eyeball
[03:21] <angvp> gnite all
[03:21] <nalioth> macgeek: if the first 5 numbers dont match, it is a clue
[03:21] <n0odl3> :~$ sudo dkpg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04i386.deb
[03:21] <n0odl3> sudo: dkpg: command not found
[03:21] <n0odl3> thats all i get
[03:21] <antix> Xanadu, it's a little difficult to send the file as it's on the other machine w/o network but I just tried adding map eth1 and a new entry with <IP_ADDRESS> etc
[03:21] <nalioth> n0odl3: spelling
[03:22] <macgeek> nalioth: ok well they match. now i reburn at the slowest speed?
[03:22] <nalioth> macgeek: yes
[03:22] <MEtaLpREs> can someone help me with this error im getting when trying to mount a hard drive?
[03:22] <st1lgar> macgeek: if [[ a = a ] ] ; then echo yes; fi
[03:22] <thewayofzen> downloaded java as suggested by ubotu
[03:22] <thewayofzen> still getting the same errors from azureus
[03:23] <nalioth> N6REJ: sign up for a wiki account and add your instructions
[03:23] <macgeek> nalioth: ok thanks, st1lgar: oh of course, i totally forgot about that
[03:23] <thewayofzen> anyone using azureus with breezy?
[03:23] <n0odl3> cd desktop
[03:23] <n0odl3> bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[03:23] <n0odl3> this keeps on happening everytime i try to cd
[03:23] <nalioth> n0odl3: it's Desktop
[03:23] <MEtaLpREs> its Desktop not desktop
[03:23] <N6REJ> nalioth: the info from the hoary wiki will need to be moved to the breezy wiki
[03:23] <st1lgar> not *mac*geek for nothing :)
[03:23] <nalioth> n0odl3: linux is case sensitive
[03:23] <n0odl3> ok
[03:23] <n0odl3> thankyou
[03:23] <nalioth> N6REJ: sign up and do well
[03:23] <N6REJ> nalioth: cc
[03:23] <angvp> i'm having troubles installing a WLL card with ubuntu (hoarty), the card have a Ralink 2500 chipset, i've downloaded and descompressed the driver and installed the header, so, i ran make config, and tell me an error, "kernel version isn't compatible" now I know what version of kernel i'm using, and i have the correct source, anyone have installed this network card before?
[03:24] <MEtaLpREs> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,
[03:24] <MEtaLpREs>        missing codepage or other error
[03:24] <MEtaLpREs> any idea whats causing that?
[03:24] <nalioth> MEtaLpREs: see "man fstab"
[03:24] <MEtaLpREs> the drive is ext3 or aleast it was before i installed ubuntu
[03:24] <pupil> MEtaLpREs, are you trying to mount an extended partition?
[03:25] <MEtaLpREs> im trying to mount a second hard drive
[03:25] <MEtaLpREs> it only has 1 partition
[03:25] <pupil> sudo fdisk -l
[03:26] <antix> Xanadu, so the system does recognize the device but it doesn't get mapped to any ethx..
[03:26] <n0odl3> thank you for helping
[03:26] <n0odl3> sorry if  i was freaking out
[03:26] <luckyaba> anyone know how to enable or setup dual head?
[03:26] <MEtaLpREs> yea im seeing the drives in fdisk
[03:26] <luckyaba> sli?
[03:26] <n0odl3> when do i know the unpacking is done?
[03:27] <kbrooks> when it returns control
[03:27] <MEtaLpREs> none of the drives except my / drive show any paritions though
[03:28] <jeff_> can i get kde on ubuntu without using kubuntu?
[03:28] <MEtaLpREs> i was just using the drives earlier today, i installed ubuntu and now my drives have no partition tables....
[03:28] <tyler_durden> whats the command to cd to desktop?
[03:28] <n0odl3> cd Desktop
[03:28] <n0odl3> thats the command
[03:28] <Xanadu> cd ~/desktop
[03:28] <nalioth> jeff_: yes, although kubuntu-desktop makes it easy
[03:28] <tyler_durden> oh thanks forgot it's case sensitive
[03:28] <nalioth> Xanadu: spelling
[03:28] <Xanadu> nalioth whatz that?
[03:29] <jeff_> is kubuntu an official ubuntu project? or a fork?
[03:29] <nalioth> Xanadu: cd ~/Desktop
[03:29] <MEtaLpREs> i really need these drives working again without losing the data that is (was?) on them
[03:29] <n0odl3> do you really have to type the /?
[03:29] <n0odl3> i didnt have to
[03:30] <speel> hey any one here running breezy having a problem with totem?
[03:30] <Xanadu> n0odle you were in your home directory - the ~ means "my home directory" so you can run it wherever you are in your file system
[03:31] <n0odl3> i see
[03:31] <Xanadu> n0odle the ~ is called a tilde
[03:32] <Pshivers> I jsut ran #sudo apt-get upgrade, when i run #sudo apt-get update now it says::: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock: no access
[03:32] <boxerboy29> does anyone know of a program similar to kdevelop for gnome?
[03:32] <mazatl> anjuta ?
[03:33] <boxerboy29> can i manually compile it using gcc?
[03:33] <speel> any one here at all running breezy?
[03:33] <mazatl> I'm not sure, I just did apt-get install anjuta
[03:33] <Pshivers> yes speel
[03:33] <boxerboy29> i mean the program i write
[03:33] <cvt> what's the command to start my junior-typing program?
[03:33] <mazatl> It uses gcc yes
[03:33] <speel> Pshivers, are you having problems with like firefox visiting sites with multimedia on it like a video?
[03:33] <Pshivers> nope
[03:33] <Pshivers> not at all
[03:33] <boxerboy29> cause they have buttons to do it but i would rather have hands on
[03:34] <speel> hmm ok thanks man
[03:34] <jcaf> breezy here
[03:34] <mazatl> It has the terminal integregated
[03:34] <mazatl> try it out and see if its what you want
[03:34] <cvt> "apt start junior-typing?"
[03:34] <boxerboy29> ok ty mazatl i will in morning ty
[03:34] <speel> that and my webcam locking up my comp is driving me nuts
[03:35] <speel> =o this is the quietest ive seen in the ubuntu channel lol
[03:36] <Xanadu> speel whenever someone says that it goes craazy
[03:36] <speel> lol
[03:36] <[LethAL] > Well... seems ok so far :P
[03:36] <Xanadu> lol
[03:36] <Daywalker> i have a problem with my linux
[03:37] <Daywalker> i can't connect internet by PPPoE
[03:37] <Daywalker> i don't know how to connect to the internet
[03:37] <Daywalker> and how to make the connection
[03:37] <Daywalker> please help me
[03:37] <Xanadu> daywalker i use roaring penguin
[03:37] <Daywalker> what penguin?
[03:37] <Daywalker> i have ubuntu
[03:38] <Pshivers> I jsut ran #sudo apt-get upgrade, when i run #sudo apt-get update now it says::: /var/lib/apt/lists/lock: no access
[03:38] <cvt> how do i start a program that's not visible but i know the name of it?
[03:38] <cvt> it's installed
[03:38] <Xanadu> daywalker roaring penguin is a pppoe dialer for linux
[03:38] <Pshivers> is there a way to unlock it?
[03:38] <cvt> junior typing
[03:38] <[LethAL] > cvt, alt-f2
[03:38] <eythian> cvt: most likely, type the name
[03:38] <cvt> i tried typing it in the root terminal
[03:38] <Daywalker> i don't understand Xanadu
[03:38] <nalioth> cvt: dont use a root terminal
[03:38] <eythian> cvt: don't use the root terminal if you can avoid it
[03:38] <Daywalker> do i need a pppoe software
[03:38] <cvt> ok
[03:39] <Daywalker> ?
[03:39] <cvt> it said Cannot display location 'file://junior-typing'
[03:39] <mirabalj> exit
[03:39] <poningru> daysleper: no
[03:39] <Xanadu> Daywalker there is a pppoe dialer built in to ubuntu but i don't use it cause it's not cool enough for me ;)
[03:39] <antix> Xanadu, sorry for being sceptical. you were right all along. it was my interfaces file that was wrong. when I added some more info like nw, bc etc for eth1 it worked. it didn't get any address before.. thanks!
[03:39] <eythian> cvt: try typing jun and then pressing tab a couple of times
[03:39] <Xanadu> antix lol! after all that ;P
[03:39] <poningru> woah Xanadu
[03:39] <poningru> can you fix teh interweb?
[03:39] <Daywalker> where i live i don't have ADSL connection
[03:40] <Daywalker> so ubuntu bring a pppoe dialer
[03:40] <Daywalker> ?
[03:40] <Xanadu> poningru yo! wassup?
[03:40] <antix> Xanadu, problem was I didn't know what to write.. but looking at ifconfig on another machine I saw what network address and broadcast should be... :)
[03:40] <breakthestate> antix: good solution
[03:40] <Xanadu> aaah see if u coulda sent it to me i coulda fixed it antix ;)
[03:41] <breakthestate> ah, but better that antix fixed it him/herself
[03:41] <Xanadu> antix i think there are examples in /usr/share/docs/ifupdown if u get stuck again
[03:41] <xenobytes> I had a question about installing flash and getting java integration working on firefox -- it seems like the backports repos are down (even the new ones, I know they moved from mirrormax). What should I do?
[03:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell xenobytes about javadeb
[03:42] <Xanadu> yeah antix dude now you're a networking guru
[03:42] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: well?
[03:42] <xenobytes> thanks nalioth.
[03:42] <tyler_durden> =/ no luck, it says i dont have some kernel
[03:43] <antix> Xanadu, thanks. maybe I can find out what I did.. :) I put "map eth1" instead of eth0.. dunno if it mattered...
[03:43] <Xanadu> tyler_durden apt-get linux-headers
[03:43] <tyler_durden> i did that before i isntalled
[03:44] <Xanadu> tyler_durden you might need the full kernel - apt-get linux-kernel and then go to /src and extract it and then try again
[03:44] <tyler_durden> it said it couldnt find linux-kernel
[03:44] <nalioth> tyler_durden: use synaptic
[03:44] <kbrooks> Xanadu: thats /usr/src/.
[03:45] <Xanadu> kbrooks sheesh i'm not doing so well tonight with the details
[03:45] <luckyaba> what numbers should be in my xorg from when i bring up lspi?
[03:45] <kbrooks> Xanadu: oic...
[03:45] <cvt> i remember using junior-typing on my system but i can't remember how to start it.
[03:45] <tyler_durden> linux-kernel-headers is already installed
[03:46] <xenobytes> nalioth, what about flash?
[03:46] <xenobytes> Flash is really what I'm after.
[03:46] <nalioth> xenobytes: /msg ubotu restricted
[03:46] <xenobytes> thx.
[03:47] <antix> Xanadu, thanks again.. past bedtime now... cya :)
[03:47] <luckyaba> mozilla isn't displaying any fonts?
[03:48] <luckyaba> firefox that is
[03:48] <tyler_durden> how do i stop gnome and go to recovery mode without restarting?
[03:49] <kbrooks> tyler_durden: ctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, init 1
[03:50] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[03:50] <merula> hey
[03:50] <breakthestate> where is gcc in ubuntu?
[03:50] <tuxedo_kamen> sorry, but I just downloaded the latest ubuntu *.iso and now I wanted to know how to update my system by using that iso! Can anyone please tell me?
[03:50] <eros> hi
[03:51] <breakthestate> tuxedo: are you already using ubuntu?
[03:51] <durt> greetings
[03:51] <speel> breakthestate, you have to download it
[03:51] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah
[03:51] <nalioth> breakthestate: install "build-essential" then it'll be in /usr/bin/
[03:51] <merula> breakthestate, you have to force it to install if you can't get apt-get to install it
[03:51] <eros> ubuntu is good bu...
[03:51] <merula> that too
[03:51] <speel> breakthestate, apt-get install build-essential
[03:51] <cvt> Error Another synaptic is running
[03:51] <speel> that will install all essential dev tools
[03:51] <cvt> help?
[03:51] <eros> i like SUSE the best
[03:51] <breakthestate> oh wow, thx, ubuntu doesn't have it
[03:51] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: insert the cd and type "apt-cdrom"
[03:51] <breakthestate> ?
[03:52] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O what cd? like I said before, I don't have a cd recorder, I want to install it from the iso!
[03:52] <speel> breakthestate, well they do its on the cd i think its just not installed by default
[03:52] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: oh. i'm lost then
[03:52] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, mount the iso as a loopback
[03:52] <tuxedo_kamen> i have no idea on how to mount it, sorry
[03:52] <merula> tuxedo, man mount
[03:52] <breakthestate> speel, nalioth, merula: thx
[03:53] <n0odl3> im trying to run the esd command in sudo but its not working
[03:53] <merula> np
[03:53] <n0odl3> does anyone know what im doing wrong?
[03:53] <speel> breakthestate, np :)
[03:53] <cvt> i guess i'll have to reboot
[03:53] <tuxedo_kamen> >_< merula, mount is not going to help me, since I am a newbie and it sounds like chinese to me!
[03:53] <tuxedo_kamen> i mean, "man"
[03:53] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, ok then
[03:53] <tyler_durden> it says no precompiled kernel found
[03:53] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, hold on... I'll find it
[03:54] <nalioth> pupil: are you in windows land?
[03:54] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, thanks
[03:54] <pupil> not yet
[03:54] <tuxedo_kamen> I just want to update my ubuntu using this *.iso ...
[03:54] <pupil> whats that channel you had me join?
[03:54] <nalioth> pupil: #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:54] <tyler_durden> when i try to instal lthe nvidia drivers it says no precompiled kernel found. how do i fix it?
[03:54] <pupil> But I can fix the problem
[03:54] <merula> tuxedo_kamen, http://thomer.com/howtos/mount_loopback.html
[03:55] <merula> mount file.iso /cdrom -t iso9660 -o loop.
[03:55] <merula> that should work
[03:55] <eros> a im new usin ubuntu can someone tell me where to start
[03:55] <StrikeForce> http://www.tech-recipes.com/linux_tips857.html for mounting
[03:55] <merula> eros, what have you used before?
[03:55] <anethema> start with what
[03:55] <eros> Suse
[03:56] <StrikeForce> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test
[03:56] <tyler_durden> :( no one noes? please i really need this to work
[03:56] <eros> well i think some of the comands are different with ubuntu
[03:56] <StrikeForce> tyler_durden, it always does
[03:56] <Xanadu> tyler_durden did you download the linux kernel?
[03:56] <StrikeForce> tyler_durden, just keep going
[03:56] <tyler_durden> yes
[03:56] <tyler_durden> i cant it quits