[00:03] <ppkuma> Hi, I'm having problems with ubuntu-xboxdrv. My controller is acting up on rocket league so I tried to modify the configuration and now, on top that it still isn't working I'm getting an error in apt-update. Can you guys help me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25385055/
[00:07] <Bashing-om> !info ubuntu-xboxdrv xenial
[00:11] <leftyfb> I know this might not be exactly supported, but .... :)
[00:11] <leftyfb> So I'm running Ubuntu on my pi. I'm trying to run a resize script similar to what raspbian does on boot but from the kernel directly. I'm adding init=/path/to/script to the kopt. After update-grub it gets added to all the kernel lines in menu.lst but the script doesn't seem to be running at all.
[00:18] <ppkuma> !info xboxdrv-ubuntu
[00:38] <john38> hello can anybody suggest a good file recovery tool for ubuntu that can recover file names as well?????
[00:42] <kenrin> Usually programs that can do that have to be installed before any files are lost so it can preserve the metadata.  But if you find one let us know~
[00:42] <Jordan_U> john38: What filesystem did you delete the file from? Note that backups are the only 100% reliable method of undeleting files.
[00:43] <john38> this one
[00:43] <john38> i believe its sdb
[00:43] <john38> im doing a recovery now with photorec
[00:44] <john38> but i going to have to manually check files
[00:44] <Jordan_U> john38: You mean that you deleted a file from within your Ubuntu installation's root partition, correct?
[00:44] <john38> yes i believe so
[00:45] <Jordan_U> john38: And you're currently booted from a LiveUSB and making sure not to mount this partition with write permissions?
[00:45] <john38> i duall boot this HDD with windows 7 and Ubuntu 16.04
[00:47] <Jordan_U> john38: If not, then do that *now*. The longer you use the partition you delted the file from, the more likely that you will overwrite its contents permanently.
[00:48] <john38> ok i cancelled photorec recovery
[00:48] <Jordan_U> john38: If you've been writing files to your Ubuntu partition while trying to recover files from that same partion, you greatly increased your chances of losing the file's contents forever.
[00:49] <john38> i just deleted it yesterdaty
[00:49] <john38> its a html file firefox
[00:50] <Jordan_U> john38: OK. Have you rebooted into an Ubuntu LiveUSB yet?
[00:50] <john38> no
[00:50] <leftyfb> john38: just to set your expectations, the chances are greater that you will not recover your file
[00:51] <leftyfb> john38: rm is no joke
[00:51] <Jordan_U> john38: If you don't have an Ubuntu LiveUSB right now, *DO NOT* download an Ubuntu iso while booted into Ubuntu. Seriously, every write you make to your Ubuntu partition could be ovewriting your file's contents forever.
[00:51] <leftyfb> especially on ext4 and especially on a filesystem you've continued to use for 24 hours
[00:51] <Pinkamena_D> I have a laptop with a secondary HDD which I just use as an archive. I have it unmounted with quick spindown but still every few minutes with no specific user activity it will spin up for some reason. Is there some way to prevent linux/ubuntu from accessing it and causing it to spin up?
[00:51] <john38> i remember reading that i shoultn recover to a partition that i currently using right??
[00:52] <john38> well i have another hdd
[00:52] <john38> its unmounted
[00:52] <john38> should i recover to that??
[00:52] <Jordan_U> john38: That's correct, you shouldn't recover to the same partition you're currently using because you shouldn't write anything to the partition you're trying to recover from.
[00:53] <leftyfb> john38: The longer your computer is running, the less likely you'll recover that file
[00:53] <Jordan_U> john38: Are you currently booted into the partition you want to recover the file from?
[00:53] <john38> ok
[00:53] <leftyfb> Jordan_U: yes, he is
[00:54] <demophobia> I read something saying I needed to make a change to my Windows partition before trying LiveUSB lubuntu or it may not know how to boot into Windows ever again; are you familiar with this probem and the webpage explaining it?
[00:54] <leftyfb> demophobia: that's not a thing
[00:55] <Jordan_U> john38: If you really care about that file, then shut down *now*. Boot into Windows or use another machine and join here from there. If you don't really care about that file, for example if you could recreate the file with less than 8 hours of work, then just consider it permanently gone (since it likely is) and take this as a learning experience.
[00:56] <leftyfb> john38: use git on things like this and maybe on a folder under a dropbox account
[01:00] <budest> Jordan_U: Any idea how to copy a file to a HFS+ drive? Getting permissions errors.
[01:01] <demophobia> leftyfb: is it an issue if i install lubuntu, rather than merely boot from LiveUSB?
[01:02] <leftyfb> demophobia: installing Ubuntu dual boot with Windows can be pretty easy. But if you're not careful, you could wipe Windows. Booting from a live USB and trying out Ubuntu will do nothing at all to Windows unless you purposely mount your Windows partition and start making changes.
[01:03] <leftyfb> demophobia: there's lots of documentation online, including the wiki.ubuntu.com on dual booting
[01:03] <demophobia> 'k, thanks.
[01:03] <leftyfb> demophobia: regardless of how you go about installing Ubuntu, your first step is always make a backup and recovery plan
[01:04] <demophobia> Exactly. I just got a Dell D620 for lubuntu, but the seller did not give me an installation or recovery disc. :( so I'm going to create both a disc and USB drive before booting from the lubuntu liveUSB i made.
[01:05] <Jordan_U> budest: You're going to run into 2 problems. 1: Your user IDs won't match up, which is easy to work around. 2: Linux can't write to journaled hfsplus, the easiest solution being to disable journaling (which makes the filesystem less resilient to corruption if you lose power or the drive is unplugged while writing to it) from within OSX.
[01:06] <john38> Hey Jordan_U i have a hdd called backup that unmounted
[01:06] <john38> how do i recover to that hdd using photorec
[01:06] <john38> ????
[01:06] <Jordan_U> john38: And you're currently booted from an Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[01:07] <john38> no
[01:07] <Jordan_U> john38: What are you currently booted into?
[01:07] <john38> the partition i deleted that file from
[01:07] <john38> i want to recover fount files to the unmounted hdd
[01:07] <Jordan_U> john38: DO NOT BOOT FROM THAT PARTITION. We've told you this many times now. Shut down now and please pay more attention in the future.
[01:08] <john38> ok
[01:08] <john38> sorry
[01:08] <leftyfb> john38: lets just consider your file gone
[01:08] <john38> ok
[01:08] <john38> can i access photorec from live cd
[01:09] <Jordan_U> john38: Yes, though if you want the filename preserved you'll want to try extundelete first. Also, to repeat it again, your file is very likely already irrecoverable.
[01:10] <john38> i just found most of the file right now recovered
[01:10] <john38> give me instructions on what to do???
[01:10] <john38> boot to live cd
[01:11] <john38> when run terminal
[01:11] <john38> then run terminal
[01:11] <john38> ?????
[01:11] <Jordan_U> john38: Stop discussing this while you're booted from that partition. Shut down now. Connect from your Windows partition and talk to us from there (easiest way is to use a web browser and go to http://webchat.freenode.net ).
[01:12] <john38> ok i also deleted the same file from windows
[01:12] <Jordan_U> john38: Do you have another computer?
[01:12] <john38> no
[01:12] <john38> can i recover that from that was deleted to from windows partition to this partition
[01:13] <Jordan_U> john38: Do you have an already made Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[01:13] <john38> yes
[01:13] <Jordan_U> john38: Reboot into that now and talk to us from there.
[01:13] <john38> i'll just use photorec now here to scan the windows partition and recover to this partition is that alright
[01:13] <john38> ????
[01:14] <Jordan_U> john38: I would still not recommend that, no.
[01:15] <john38> the file was deleted from windows as well
[01:15] <john38> i dont use windows much
[01:15] <Jordan_U> john38: I understand that. But you should not avoidably reduce your chances.
[01:15] <john38> ok ok
[01:16] <john38> i'll logon to windows
[01:16] <Jordan_U> john38: NO.
[01:16] <john38> no
[01:16] <john38> ?
[01:16] <Jordan_U> john38: Boot from the Ubuntu LiveUSB. Then you won't be writing to either of the partitions that you deleted the file from.
[01:16] <john38> can i use terminal and use photorec from there??
[01:17] <Jordan_U> john38: Yes.
[01:17] <john38> ok bbl
[01:32] <pavlos> leftyfb: re: init= ... see this post if it helps, https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-list/2005-March/msg04090.html
[01:33] <leftyfb> pavlos: that's not my issue ... the script doesn't run at all
[01:38] <john38> hey Jordan U i couldnt do it because it coudnt find testdisk photorec in E:/
[01:38] <john38> unable to install
[01:39] <john38> Jordan_U, you there???
[01:40] <tblake3> I need help either finding a shop inventory software or a tutorial to create one in LibreOffice or MySql. Anyone have some tips?
[01:45] <john38> does ubuntu still allow you to make install DVD with all of repository on DVD??????
[01:47] <bazhang> john38, the entirety of all the repos?
[01:47] <john38> well i was trying to run a program on livecd but i count becuase it was unable to find file on E:/
[01:48] <leftyfb> john38: there's no E:/ in linux
[01:48] <john38> i was running livecd
[01:48] <leftyfb> there's still no E:/ in linux
[01:48] <john38> i typed photorec
[01:49] <john38> it said it couldnt
[01:49] <john38> i know what it said
[01:49] <leftyfb> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[01:49] <john38> oh
[01:49] <john38> thanks
[01:50] <john38> will that install photorec as well
[01:50] <leftyfb> it will install photorec
[01:50] <john38> when i use photorec
[01:51] <bazhang> john
[01:51] <bazhang> ach quit
[01:56] <inc0> hello, I have issue with ubuntu-gnome - battery ran out in my laptop and after restart lots of broken stuff - wifi is broken, bluetooth is broken, everything is slow
[01:56] <inc0> reboot didn't help at all
[02:15] <Bashing-om> inc0: Have you ran a file system check/repair ?
[02:15] <demophobia> Why do people buy OS if linux distributions like #ubuntu are free? How much better are Windows 10 or macOS Sierra?
[02:16] <demophobia> (I am thinking for example of that saying, "You get what you pay for," or "Nothing is free.")
[02:17] <Fretegi> simple depends on what your doing with the OS
[02:19] <demophobia> I have found a white paper "10 reasons to migrate" https://insights.ubuntu.com/2011/02/11/10-reasons-to-migrate
[02:20] <Fretegi> demophobia, well considering your present company here... i dont think we need my selling on linux :)
[02:20] <Fretegi> much*
[02:20] <demophobia> yeah, it looks like an ad ...
[02:20] <demophobia> looking at the contents list, it seems to be "active hobbyists, rare therefore virus-free, can do what you want, so please try it"
[02:21] <demophobia> (contents list + executive summary)
[02:21] <demophobia> i was just hoping for a quick answer to my question before i went to bed (sorry)
[02:22] <demophobia> e.g. "windows 10 is 3x better but costs $200 instead of being free" or "people want to play games / satisfy dumb users and microsoft forces them to pay but ubuntu's just as good"
[02:22] <Fretegi> demophobia, stability, enterprise quality toolsets, much greater control of the OS, supporting the open software philosophy, all common reasons
[02:22] <demophobia> lubuntu 16 > windows 7, right?
[02:23] <demophobia> for all those reasons
[02:23] <demophobia> ?
[02:23] <Fretegi> demophobia, again depends on your application.. there exists software that just wont run on linux period..  the list is dwindling with things line wine now... but still a potential issue
[02:25] <Fretegi> i dont use windows at all at home..  all linux.. have adapted to the available open source stuff and cant imagine that changing
[02:26] <inc0> Bashing-om: I'll try but doesn't seem to be an issue, I see my cpu scaling governors to stick to powersave
[02:29] <inc0> what runs power mgmt in ubuntu-shell 16.04?
[02:29] <inc0> (whatever that is I want it gone :S)
[02:33] <demophobia> goodnight
[02:36] <Sadneophyte> Hi, I upgraded to 16.04.3 and the 4.10 kernel seems to have broken some stuff.  Is there any way to move back to the 4.4 or 4.8 kernels?  Grub soesn't seem to want to add them to the bootlist
[02:40] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, im not sure how to downgrade, but what kinda stuff has been broken? maybe we can fix that
[02:41] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, hehe.  Suspend got fritzy.  I don't REALLY want to downgrade, I just can't figure out how to get the 4.4 kernel entry included in the grub bootup menu.  update grub only sees the 4.0 kernel
[02:41] <Sadneophyte> 4.10* kernel
[02:42] <Fretegi> update-grub doesnt work?
[02:42] <inc0> looking at lsmod also I see only 54 modules loaded
[02:42] <inc0> no graphics, wifi, bluetooth
[02:42] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, it seems to work, but it doesn't make an entry for each kernel on my machine
[02:42] <inc0> nothing
[02:43] <inc0> what can modify this? /etc/modules is empty...
[02:43] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, have you rebooted since the upgrade?
[02:43] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, several times...
[02:43] <Fretegi> uname -a
[02:43] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, is this abberent behavior?
[02:44] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, 4.10.0-32-generic #36~16.04.1-Ubun
[02:44] <Tri3125> @EriC^ test
[02:44] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, I thought it was just some new feature of grub2
[02:44] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, thats the right kernel your in good shape :)
[02:44] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, but 4.8 and 4.4 seem to work better on this old hardware
[02:45] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, how so?
[02:45] <Tri3125> Is EriC not around anymore?
[02:45] <Fretegi> what broke?
[02:45] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, the 4.10 kernel will not resume after a suspend
[02:45] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, the 4.4 kernel does for instance
[02:46] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, I thought the 4.8 kernel did too...
[02:47] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, so it will suspend cleanly but not wake ?
[02:48] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, it would be hard to debug without serial console, the hardware is very 'exotic' it is a dual quad core xeon macpro2,1
[02:48] <Sadneophyte> from 2006
[02:49] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, well never had to sort that out before, but found this guide...
[02:49] <Fretegi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[02:50] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, so just to make sure, the old kernel images are still in /boot right?
[02:50] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, right, but to debug the system would take more hardware than I have
[02:51] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, right, all the images are where they should be
[02:54] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, maybe I don't understand the boot menu entries.
[02:54] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, I will RTFM
[02:54] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, Thanks for your help
[02:55] <Sadneophyte> Does update-grup also perform a grub-install?
[02:56] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, shouldnt need to grub-install
[02:56] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, I thought so too...
[02:57] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, but should be able to edit /etc/default/grub to show the other kernel versions
[02:59] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, https://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version
[02:59] <Fretegi> should fix ya up
[03:00] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, right... ... but i am not sure i see the 4.4 and 4.8 kernel entries in the grub menu
[03:01] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, ahhh  Advanced options for Ubuntu
[03:02] <Sadneophyte> okay, see oldtimers like me get confused when stuff is so pretty and tucked away.  Hehe I still feel nostalgic for grub1 and sysV... gotta learn all this new stuff for ubuntu
[03:02] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, thanks again
[03:03] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, anytime buddy.. dont worry im back to the learning curve with ubuntu as well and lots changed since in my absense haha happy to help!
[03:04] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, have you seen journalctl -xe?
[03:04] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, sure havent, whats that?
[03:04] <Sadneophyte> try it
[03:04] <Sadneophyte> it is sorta amazing for debug
[03:04] <Sadneophyte> it is the systemctl logging frontend
[03:05] <Sadneophyte> or something
[03:05] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, ahhh...  sounds pretty snazzy, ill take a peek
[03:05] <Fretegi> thank you :)
[03:06] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, you pretty good with samba connections?
[03:07] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, not since 2008...
[03:07] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, how bad is it?
[03:09] <Sadneophyte> Fretegi, I gotta reboot to see if I can get the older kernel working.
[03:09] <Sadneophyte> have fun with journalctl -xe
[03:09] <Fretegi> Sadneophyte, perfect i shall, good luck pal
[03:53] <pylearner> how do I turn on enable irq balancing for Ubuntu
[04:03] <blkadder> pylearner What is it that you are trying to accomplish and why?
[04:03] <pylearner> blkadder, I figured that now but now I have to figure out how to remove the hardcoded irq settings that were on this box
[04:04] <pylearner> my ultimate goal would be to balance workload of all my cores
[04:04] <pylearner> evenly
[04:04] <pylearner> so I am utilizing multithreading to is fullest
[04:07] <blkadder> What is hardcoded?
[04:09] <pylearner> blkadder, /proc/irq/
[04:09] <pylearner> settings in folder 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88
[04:10] <pylearner> I am not sure if turning on and enabling irq balancing will overwrite the hardcoded stuff
[04:13] <blkadder>  /proc shows current state not hard-coded values.
[04:13] <blkadder> irq balancing is turned on by default.
[04:13] <blkadder> AFAIK
[04:14] <blkadder> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/proc.html
[04:15] <blkadder> Is irqbalance not running on the machine you are working on?
[04:16] <blkadder> ps -aef | grep irqbalance
[04:26] <pylearner> blkadder, it was not running
[04:26] <pylearner> it is now
[04:26] <pylearner> but i was told that irq settings have been played with
[04:27] <pylearner> the box has 16 cores cores 1-8 were modified to for irq to process certain things
[05:33] <dersand> Is there a package in the package management somewhere that I would be able to install some BSD date implementation? (for portability testing mostly)
[05:53] <estan> hm. i added a crontab entry for root yesterday (with crontab -e), with time specification 15 22 */4 * * , so at 22:15 every 4:th day. but looking at my logs, it didn't run last night. shouldn't it have? it was the 24:th aug, and since 24 % 4 == 0, i would have expected it to run :/
[05:54] <estan> nothing in /var/log/syslog indicates that it tried to run it, and i see entries there for other cron jobs.
[05:55] <wyseguy> installing ubuntu 17.10 on my pc x99 board, i7, 32gb ram, gtx 1060, and one monitor displays the install or live cd option. no keyboard or mouse input works and the install window disappears and reappears after 20 secs or so, then does the same thing again then just sits at a blank orange background... thoughts? bug with 17.10?
[05:55] <wyseguy> of*
[05:56] <Ben64> wyseguy: #ubuntu+1 for support until it is released
[05:56] <wyseguy> Ben64 sorry I meant 17.04
[05:57] <wyseguy> maybe I should try 16.04.3 instead?
[06:34] <c06> how to create custom name dummy interfaces?
[06:35] <c06> using modprobe dummy and  /etc/modprobe.d/file.conf i created summy interfaces but i want with name as ens
[06:37] <c06> anyone on?
[06:38] <hateball> !patience | c06
[06:39] <c06> hateball: i thought its a easy thing. ok i ll wait.. :)
[06:40] <hateball> c06: it's early morning in europe and late night in USA so quite idle :)
[06:40] <hateball> and I dont know the answer!
[06:41] <c06> hateball: oh ok and ty..
[06:59] <theSanDiegoKid> Slow night?
[07:03] <theInspector> Hello! First time using the IRC support channel. I'm wondering if anyone could assist me in getting my sound card detected and working again in 16.04? I've tried a few things I found online and nothing seems to fix it.
[07:04] <vlt> theInspector: Then describe the problem and what you have tried so far.
[07:07] <theInspector> If I do "aplay -l" it says "no soundcards found..." I've tried updating DKMS, and removing / reinstalling all sound packages.
[07:08] <ducasse> theInspector: pastebin the output of 'lspci -k' and post the link here
[07:09] <theInspector> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25387803/
[07:10] <white_knight> I'm currently using Ubuntu 16.04 with kernal 4.10.0-32-generic, but vmware can't find kernel header: https://gist.github.com/ff96b78d99f457e6ce2d0bb76feac253
[07:13] <white_knight> In virtualbox, it shows this error: https://gist.github.com/66fb837434607ec81c36a3f2abd36bfc
[07:14] <white_knight> I don't know why both applications can't find the kernel...
[07:14] <theInspector> white_knight: Stupid question, but are you running as root?
[07:16] <white_knight> theInspector: yeah
[07:16] <ducasse> white_knight: the vbox message says it can't load the module, what does 'sudo modprobe vboxdrv' return?
[07:18] <white_knight>  ducasse: modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found in directory /lib/modules/4.10.0-32-generic
[07:18] <ducasse> white_knight: are the kernel headers for 4.10.0-32 installed?
[07:21] <white_knight> ducasse: I'm pretty sure I did, https://gist.github.com/383a0f921720c2aad497bede81292343
[07:22] <white_knight> I have been struggling with this for many hours. I googled everything T.T
[07:23] <ducasse> white_knight: ok, for whatever reason the vbox modules were not built correctly. try purging and reinstalling them, watch carefully for problems.
[07:24] <white_knight> ducasse: how do I purge it?
[07:24] <white_knight> ducasse: I installed virtualbox through Ubuntu Software
[07:25] <Ben64> white_knight: pastebin 'dkms status'
[07:25] <ducasse> white_knight: 'sudo apt purge virtualbox-dkms', i expect, but i don't use vbox myself
[07:26] <white_knight> Ben64: https://gist.github.com/d800b15af1ee1f42fe0f7f9ea8a411ef
[07:27] <theInspector> lspci -k shows an audio device, but pulseaudio / alsa is not finding it.
[07:27] <theInspector> In the sound settings GUI, it just lists a "Dummy Device".
[07:28] <Ben64> white_knight: how about 'sudo dkms build vboxhost'
[07:30] <white_knight> Ben64: https://gist.github.com/a474e24b1a79cd019bab6bc4cbdd40b9
[07:31] <Ben64> oh it wants a version
[07:32] <Ben64> white_knight: i guess remove and reinstall that virtualbox-dkms package and pastebin the output
[07:33] <white_knight> Ben64: how do I remove virtualbox-dkms package?
[07:34] <theInspector> ducasse: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25387803/
[07:35] <ducasse> theInspector: i saw it, all i can tell you is that the driver is loaded. look at the dmesg output, see if there are any problems there.
[07:36] <theInspector> ducasse: Alright. Thanks. I'll keep playing around with it.
[07:36] <Ben64> white_knight: sudo apt remove virtualbox-dkms
[07:37] <ducasse> theInspector: if you paste the output i'll take a look, but it might take a few minutes
[07:38] <theInspector> ducasse: Do you want all of dmesg or something specific?
[07:39] <ducasse> theInspector: you might as well post the whole thing
[07:40] <white_knight> remove: https://gist.github.com/8b5ba45f1c6a43cec86be06039d297d2
[07:40] <theInspector> ducasse: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/25387884/
[07:40] <white_knight> Ben64: remove: https://gist.github.com/8b5ba45f1c6a43cec86be06039d297d2 install: https://gist.github.com/c70ad5a1ba76e5499534c508343aab45
[07:44] <farhad> hi, i removed myself from sudoers by mistake. and in ubuntu i cant login as superuser to take myself back to sudoers. now i cant install nothing. what should i do?
[07:46] <Ben64> farhad: recovery mode
[07:47] <Ben64> white_knight: ok, what's in /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/5.0.40/build/make.log
[07:47] <theInspector> farhad: You can't login as root or use 'su' to get a root prompt?
[07:48] <white_knight> Ben64: https://gist.github.com/342bdbbf0fdba007ff3c434654ae2dbc
[07:53] <Ben64> white_knight: well there you go, you're missing a file
[07:55] <ducasse> theInspector: nothing there about audio afaict, but the module is loaded. try 'dmesg -w' in a terminal, then open a second terminal and run 'sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel ; modprobe snd-hda-intel' and watch the first terminal for new output.
[07:56] <ducasse> 'sudo moprobe -r snd-hda-intel ; sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel', sorry
[08:02] <egelor> hi
[08:03] <egelor> error package: samba 2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:03] <theInspector> ducasse: 'sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel' gave no output and 'dmesg -w' printed nothing. 'sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel' printed "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'snd_hda_intel': Required key not available".
[08:04] <ducasse> theInspector: aha. do you need secure boot enabled? if not, disable it.
[08:06] <theInspector> ducasse: I have full disk encryption and Ubuntu asks for a password to boot. Will disabling it effect anything?
[08:06] <ducasse> theInspector: no. btw, are you building your own kernel?
[08:07] <theInspector> ducasse: Okay. No... Why?
[08:08] <ducasse> theInspector: just wondering why that module does not have a key...
[08:08] <Albech> Any way to get blowfish support in 16.04 without recompiling libc?
[08:10] <arunkumar413> shotwell throwed this error when connected to a nikon DSLR
[08:10] <arunkumar413> Unable to fetch previews from the camera:
[08:10] <arunkumar413> Could not claim the USB device (-53)
[08:14] <theInspector> ducasse: Is there a way I can give that module a key? Or import the keys again from somewhere?
[08:16] <ducasse> theInspector: you can sign it yourself and add that key, but it's a bit complicated, much easier to disable the check.
[08:17] <ducasse> theInspector: but i don't understand why that module does not have it in the first place, it's part of the kernel. which release is this?
[08:26] <theInspector> ducasse: It's Ubuntu 16.04. It's also worth noting I've never had this issue.  I did some Googling and it looked like a confirmed bug so I tried updating to a newer version following a guide on the forums.
[08:28] <ducasse> theInspector: did the guide include installing packages from a ppa/third-party repo?
[08:28] <FoeHammered> I just had to restart to stop my hard drive from filling up. What could cause that to randomly happen?
[08:28] <FoeHammered> Actually, it might be worth clarifying, I have my home folder on a separate hard drive from my / , and the / isn't full at all. It's something in the home folder, apparently.
[08:29] <ducasse> FoeHammered: start bt finding out where all the space went, ncdu is good for that
[08:30] <FoeHammered> ncde? Is that a command line tool?
[08:30] <theInspector> ducasse: Yes? It had me add the ppa ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-daily
[08:31] <ducasse> theInspector: that explains it, those modules won't be signed with a registered key
[08:32] <ducasse> theInspector: it would have been nice if you've mentioned that when you were telling us what you've tried...
[08:33] <theInspector> ducasse: ooohhh... Now I feel dumb. I'm going to restart and disable secure boot. If I don't join again assume it worked.
[08:33] <theInspector> ducasse: Thank you! Yeah, sorry. I assumed since it was an "official" ubuntu ppa it wouldn't have been an issue.
[08:34] <ducasse> theInspector: no such thing as an official ppa - they're all unsupported :)
[08:35] <ducasse> theInspector: but yes, try that first.
[08:38] <farhad> theInspector: sorry. no, i cant
[08:39] <farhad> theInspector: but let me check recovery mode
[08:44] <theInspector> ducasse: I have sound again! Thank you so much. I can't belive it was something so trivial. I had been trying for 3 days now to fix it to no avail.
[08:45] <ducasse> theInspector: no problem, yw :)
[08:45] <theInspector> ducasse: The real test will be when I try it over HDMI if it sounds distorted...
[08:47] <FoeHammered> "Warning: error scanning /home/macksting/.cache/dconf, some directory sizes may not be correct" Well. That's interesting.
[09:42] <yeeve> I have a script which remaps some keys using kbx and xkbcomp, can anyone recommend the best way to auto-start this on ubuntu 17.04?
[09:43] <beforeclick_> cron?
[09:47] <yeeve> cron using @reboot or something?
[09:48] <nhatminh1209> how can i unmake a package?
[10:00] <gordonjcp> hi
[10:00] <gordonjcp> in Ubuntu 17.10, how do you change the size of the dock on the left side?
[10:01] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that please gordonjcp
[10:01] <gordonjcp> bazhang: thanks
[10:01] <bazhang> np
[10:14] <dankestlank> hello?
[10:17] <adac> Installing the intel-microcode fix/patch does not require a restart of the machine, right?
[10:33] <lucas-arg> gooodddmorninnng
[10:36] <atzrrar> good morning, lucas-arg. though it is 12:35
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:48] <gedas> Hey guys. Can you tell me how to set netboot option to interface using nmcli??
[10:50] <farhad> i remove myself from sudoers by mistake. and now i cant access to root. and in ubuntu we cant login to root. what should i do?
[10:54] <gedas> farhad, I think you need to boot to rescue mode or use live image
[10:54] <gedas> You should google it how to recover
[10:55] <farhad> gedas: rescue mode? you mean restore mode?
[10:56] <gedas> farhad, I think yes. Termilogy could cahnged by the years :)
[10:58] <farhad> gedas: i went there. and then i tried to add myself to sudoers. but it gave me an some error like: cant unlock pass ....
[11:03] <yeeve> I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 and using some custom commands via the built-in Keyboard Shortcuts. After a while it seems like the Shortcut listener goes to sleep and needs to be pressed twice to trigger the command. Anyone had anything similar?
[11:27] <dankestlank> hello?
[11:52] <ExoUNX_> sup
[11:53] <ExoUNX_> quick question, what was the last php version for Ubuntu 16.10?
[11:53] <ExoUNX_> 7.0.21?
[11:56] <hateball> ExoUNX_: you can look at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:58] <ExoUNX_> hateball, I did, it's no longer supported, so no longer listed
[11:58] <ioria> !info php yakkety
[11:59] <hateball> ExoUNX_: hmm my bad then, iirc eol versions were listed as well
[12:00] <ExoUNX_> ioria, yah not looking for the default version, just looking for the latest supported version
[12:00] <ExoUNX_> I'd assume 7.0.21 but not sure
[12:01] <ioria> ExoUNX_, what you mean with ' latest supported version' ?
[12:01] <ioria> ExoUNX_, the version is that .
[12:02] <ExoUNX_> I'm talking about the patch version
[12:03] <ExoUNX_> I think it launched with php 7.0.15, but I think it finished at php 7.0.21
[12:06] <oerheks> you can still find the info on launchpad.
[12:06] <ExoUNX_> I tried looking
[12:06] <ExoUNX_> couldn't find it :/
[12:06] <oerheks> not really a support question, so i won't help.
[12:07] <ExoUNX_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php
[12:08] <ioria> ExoUNX_, i may be wrong, but ubottu should tell you the latest version
[12:08] <oerheks> se "version published" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/yakkety/+source/php7.0
[12:08] <adac>  If I update my ubuntu 16.04 packages, and there are packages related to KVM, will KVM be restarted?
[12:08] <adac> these are the packages that would be updated: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/991451b37b1fdccdf0de5bdc02e9b83e
[12:09] <ExoUNX_> thank you
[12:11] <oerheks> adac i thought KVM did not restart the service , after an update, nor libvirt
[12:12] <adac> oerheks, that would be good yes!
[12:12] <adac> thanks!
[12:21] <john38> Anybody here???
[12:21] <hateball> !ask | john38
[12:22] <john38> Well...im trying to use Terminal on LIveCd....i enter sudo apt-get install testdisk but i get the message...E: Unable to locate package testdisk
[12:22] <ioria> john38, sudo apt update
[12:23] <hateball> Needs a working internet connection
[12:23] <john38> ioria, you sure that will work
[12:23] <john38> i have internet
[12:24] <ioria> john38, did you run it ?
[12:24] <john38> im not on live cd now
[12:24] <oerheks> ioria +1, you would need fresh lists
[12:24] <oerheks> oh
[12:24] <john38> how do i enable internet on livecd
[12:24] <ioria> john38, in the same way you do always
[12:38] <john38> hello
[12:38] <john38> i enter sudo apt-get install testdisk....and i get...........E: unable to locate package testdisk
[12:39] <oerheks> john38, did you run apt update first?
[12:39] <john38> yes i did
[12:40] <john38> then what do i do next
[12:40] <oerheks> then i guess you have an old ubuntu iso, 14.04/16.04/17.04 are supported
[12:40] <guess> hey guys
[12:41] <john38> i have 16.04.3 lts
[12:41] <john38> 64bit
[12:41] <oerheks> !info testdisk xenial
[12:41] <oerheks> it should be available then, after update, with universe enabled.
[12:42] <guess> need help regarding aircrack and wifiphisher anybody can help?
[12:44] <john38> how do i enable universe
[12:44] <guess> its not runing saying no such command
[12:44] <guess> maybe im doing something wrong
[12:44] <oerheks> open softwarecenter > software & updates, on the 1st page
[12:45] <guess> one more question guys do you have private conversation between each other? cause only few msg here with 100's of users))
[12:45] <oerheks> guess, you won't find much support here for wificracking/pentesting, try the kali/pentesting channels
[12:47] <guess> oerheks: im not asking to how to use it, im just asking how to install and run it please
[12:47] <guess> maybe im typing wrong command cause im new on it
[12:47] <john38> thanks guys
[12:48] <john38> Hey ....can i recover files from my linux partition from livecd and save on linux partition as well????
[12:49] <guess> john38: do you have any idea?
[12:49] <john38> im asking
[12:49] <oerheks> john38, no, normally one needs a 2nd hdd to save data
[12:49] <john38> ok i have that
[12:50] <john38> can i save it to my windows partition
[12:52] <guess> ok can someone atleast tell me please how to join kali/pentesting chanel?
[12:53] <guess> hey arunkumar413
[12:54] <guess> hey arunkumar413: do you remember you said you will help me regarding ubuntu
[12:56] <guess> is here ubuntu support or ignor support???
[12:57] <Pici> guess: kali's channel is #kali-linux
[12:57] <guess> oh god tnx bro!!!
[12:58] <john38> How do i navigate to my windows partition on Photorec???
[12:58] <m0j0dj0dj0> Hi, there is a way to hide the dock in ubuntu artful ?
[13:01] <john38> How do i navigate to my windows partition on Photorec???
[13:03] <deww> john38: did you check out their detailed guide? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step
[13:05] <arunkumar413> Guess, this is a community support
[13:05] <john38> deww, i just tells me to use arrows
[13:05] <john38> deww, i tried entering mnt, media, and run i cant see windows partition
[13:07] <deww> john38: it most likely is by partition, judging by what i see in the guide. i've only tried photorec once maybe 5 years ago.
[13:17] <ducasse> m0j0dj0dj0: #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:40] <Younder> My kindle has in the past when I have plugged it in shown up as a device. Today It doesn't. Any ideas?
[13:40] <genii> Make sure you're using a data cable, and not a charge-only cable
[13:41] <whaley> Younder: does it matter if the kindle is powered on or not?
[13:41] <Younder> whaley, thx
[13:47] <Younder> whaley, No it was a charge cable. One I changed the cable it worked
[13:48] <Younder> I guess the credit should have gone to genii, sorry
[13:49] <m0j0dj0dj0> ducasse: it seems it is a fork of dash-to-dock some options can be set with gsettings like move the dock from the left to the bottom or the right but impossible to get this f****ing dock auto hide like dash2dock
[13:50] <ducasse> m0j0dj0dj0: it's still a question for #ubuntu+1, not here
[13:51] <m0j0dj0dj0> yeah did it
[13:56] <whaley> Younder: *nod*  I seem to remember it having different states for how it was mounted depending upon whether the kindle was on or off... though this was an older kindle on MacOS
[13:57] <genii> Younder: Glad to assist
[13:58] <cvhbsk> Unable to install Ubuntu 16.04.3 on my system... Stuck while loading NetworkManager.service
[14:10] <Richard_Cavell> I have downloaded about 10 executables from the Internet that work on my machine. It's a niche project that doesn't have an Ubuntu package. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04. Is there a typical directory in which to put such executables?
[14:11] <ducasse> Richard_Cavell: for your user only i'd put them in ~/bin, systemwide in /usr/local/bin
[14:11] <Some_Person> How can I remotely control my Ubuntu-running laptop from my Windows desktop, with both monitors of my desktop being used?
[14:12] <Richard_Cavell> Okay. How do I add them to my path so I can just type the name?  For my user only?
[14:12] <leftyfb> Some_Person: try teamviewer
[14:12] <ducasse> Richard_Cavell: ~/bin should already be in your path iirc
[14:12] <Richard_Cavell> ducasse: Thank you, that works
[14:13] <Some_Person> leftyfb: I don't know that I can legally use that free when I'm using it for work
[14:13] <Some_Person> I'm hoping for something more like RDP on Windows
[14:13] <leftyfb> Some_Person: shouldn't your work be providing a solution then?
[14:13] <Some_Person> leftyfb: No, because this is an odd situation where I'm working from home because a hurricane's coming
[14:14] <Some_Person> And I don't have the right cables to hook up my monitors to my laptop
[14:14] <leftyfb> Some_Person: try VNC , particularly, x11vnc installed on the Ubuntu machine
[14:15] <Some_Person> Will that support 2 monitors, when the host only has 1 monitor?
[14:15] <leftyfb> Some_Person: did you look into it or try it?
[14:15] <Some_Person> No, but I don't want to waste my time if it can't do it
[14:16] <pavlos> Some_Person: there is also FreeNX or nomachine for win/linux
[14:18] <cvhbsk> Unable to install Ubuntu 16.04.3 on my system... Stuck while loading NetworkManager.service
[14:18] <L00P3X> after a freeze i had to hold down the powerbutton and totaly messed up the system.. have on boot "end Kernel panic - Not syncing. unable to mount root". i managed to get acces over the grub under other firmware but after a reinstall of ubuntu (no data lost) i can not connect to wifi and more problematic is i can not read USB! so i can not save all my data and try a complete reinstall.. please some solution?
[14:18] <L00P3X> i'm sorry how long it is
[14:19] <leftyfb> Some_Person: yes, it works with multiple monitors on the remote side
[14:20] <Some_Person> leftyfb: Even when the host only has a single monitor?
[14:20] <leftyfb> yes
[14:20] <Some_Person> Okay, I'll give it a shot then
[14:20] <leftyfb> Some_Person: install x11vnc on the remote, then run x11vnc -xkb -noxrecord -noxfixes -noxdamage -display :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -usepw
[14:20] <Some_Person> thanks!
[14:20] <leftyfb> then use any vnc client on Windows
[14:20] <wad> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, 64-bit desktop edition: I've got my music playing on my laptop, and I'd like to listen to it through my headphones. So I plug them in, click "headphones" on the popup window, and it's a coin flip if I get audio through them. I've been through all the menus, and googled stuff. Ideas?
[14:21] <wad> I can always power down, and power up again, for another coinflip.... but I've got a dozen applications running, it's such a pain!
[14:23] <Some_Person> leftyfb: Okay, I was able to connect, but as expected I only see one desktop. How do I add a second screen to the thing?
[14:23] <leftyfb> there should be a scroll bar at the bottom of your vnc client
[14:23] <leftyfb> I just tried it on my end and it just worked using the remmina vnc client on ubuntu
[14:24] <L00P3X> in short. external usb sticks, hardrive do not mount after i messed up the system holding down the powerbutton.. would save all my data on hdd
[14:24] <Some_Person> leftyfb: It looks like it just attaches to the current session. And my laptop only has one display, so that's all I get
[14:26] <oh4> every so often during the day, I cannot resolve anything internally. When I look at my dns settings with 'systemd-resolve', my internal dns is listed first, then my externals as secondary and third. I can hit the net fine but if I try to hit an internal domain, it fails. If I reset (stop and start) my NIC, it works fine again. If I compare the output of my NIC settings before and after, they are the same
[14:26] <Some_Person> Also doesn't look like x11vnc is using cursors properly (always just a black pointer).  Maybe it's a limitation of your Windows VNC client, I'm not sure. I have a pretty stock Ubuntu laptop in front of my with an external monitor plugged in that the desktop extends to. I used my main laptop to connect to it (also running Ubuntu) and I can scroll across both screens in the same VNC client window
[14:27] <oh4> this happens on both wired and wifi
[14:27] <Some_Person> leftyfb: Unplug the external monitor
[14:27] <leftyfb> Some_Person: huh?
[14:27] <Some_Person> then you'll probably see what I'm getting
[14:28] <Some_Person> My laptop only has 1 display. My desktop, which I'm trying to use to connect to my laptop, has 2. I want both displays to show the laptop, with it extended across them
[14:28] <BluesKaj> oh4, set your DNS  IPs in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[14:28] <oh4> so when the issue occurs, if I do an nslookup on anything internal, some external DNS server is being hit
[14:29] <leftyfb> Some_Person: right ... read what I typed. There's no difference except my "remote" machine is also a laptop with an external display (multiple displays) and I'm using an Ubuntu VNC client, not Windows.
[14:29] <wad> *sigh* reboot for a coinflip.
[14:29] <leftyfb> oh4: I would investigate your router since that is the DNS server for your local network
[14:29] <oh4> BluesKaj: but if I do this, I'll always have to make the change
[14:30] <oh4> this is a laptop
[14:30] <Some_Person> leftyfb: I think in your situation, you get 2 monitors because your laptop has 2 monitors
[14:30] <Some_Person> My laptop only has 1, so I'm stuck with 1 in my client
[14:30] <leftyfb> no
[14:30] <oh4> leftyfb: I did...nothing else on the network gets this issue except my two ubuntu computers...windows or fedora are ok (shrug)
[14:31] <leftyfb> Some_Person: no no no
[14:31] <Some_Person> leftyfb: Try unplugging it
[14:31] <leftyfb> Some_Person: no
[14:31] <Some_Person> I say that because it appears to connect to the existing session
[14:31] <leftyfb> Some_Person: I have 2 laptops .. 1 with 2 displays with the VNC server. The other (my client, equal to your laptop) has no external display plugged in
[14:31] <Some_Person> which only has 1 display
[14:32] <Some_Person> Okay, in that case, what client are you using?
[14:32] <leftyfb> also, a VNC client doesn't care how many displays your local machine has. The VNC client acts the same regardless.
[14:32] <leftyfb> Some_Person: I told you. remmina .. on Ubuntu
[14:32] <oh4> leftyfb: so my dns server for lookup when the issue occurs seems to poing back to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:33] <oh4> does ubuntu have an internal dns  that runs by default?
[14:33] <L00P3X> please, usb don't mount and not apperas anywhere.. need to save my data
[14:33] <leftyfb> oh4: nmcli device show|grep DNS
[14:33] <leftyfb> L00P3X: type dmesg when you plug in the "usb". There's probably errors at the end
[14:33] <Some_Person> So when you connect with remmina, your laptop automatically changes to have 2 "displays"?
[14:34] <oh4> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/apl7bVdG/
[14:34] <leftyfb> Some_Person: no. Remmina displays a Window, just like any other application. In the Window there 's a scroll bar at the bottom that lets me scroll across both displays on the remote VNC server
[14:34] <oh4> @leftyfb
[14:35] <leftyfb> oh4: your machine is using <IP_ADDRESS> as it's local DNS
[14:35] <oh4> right
[14:35] <Some_Person> leftyfb: But I mean, you said the machine you're connecting to only has 1 display
[14:35] <leftyfb> Some_Person: nope, never said that
[14:36] <Some_Person> leftyfb: Okay... well that's the situation I have
[14:36] <leftyfb> Some_Person: you should really read what I typed
[14:36] <L00P3X> leftyfb: i would say it do not exist anywhere.. as there were no in.. no errors
[14:36] <BluesKaj> oh4, here's one method that may help https://askubuntu.com/questions/908319/ubuntu-17-04-systemd-resolved-configuration
[14:36] <Some_Person> 2 monitors on the client, 1 monitor on the machine I'm connecting to, but I want the machine I'm connecting to to extend across both monitors on the client
[14:36] <Some_Person> Maybe I didn't explain myself well enough
[14:36] <leftyfb> you didn't
[14:37] <L00P3X> leftyfb: what i tried to is lsblk.. and i can't find it
[14:37] <leftyfb> Some_Person: maximize the vnc client Window across both screens. This really has nothing to do with Ubuntu or VNC actually. It's Windows and extending a window across both displays
[14:38] <leftyfb> L00P3X: If nothing shows up in dmesg when you plug in your "usb", then there is something wrong with your "usb". It's either damaged or the usb port is damaged
[14:39] <Some_Person> leftyfb: I still don't see how that will "give" my laptop a second display it doesn't really have
[14:39] <L00P3X> leftyfb:  1993.131058] usb 2-3: USB disconnect, device number 5 ?
[14:39] <leftyfb> Some_Person: it won't. That's not how things work.
[14:40] <Some_Person> leftyfb: So does that mean what I want is impossible with VNC (as I suspected)?
[14:40] <leftyfb> Some_Person: yep
[14:40] <Some_Person> Right, so I wasted a bunch of time
[14:40] <Some_Person> So what sort of thing /can/ do this?
[14:40] <leftyfb> Some_Person: yes. Because you didn't explain it properly
[14:40] <Some_Person> RDP on Windows can do this because it opens up a whole new session
[14:41] <L00P3X> leftyfb: how could i try to mount it?
[14:41] <leftyfb> Some_Person: Nothing that I know of
[14:42] <leftyfb> L00P3X: plug it in, what does dmesg say? Paste the output to pastebin
[14:44] <pavlos> L00P3X: can you plug another usb stick? does it work? if dmesg does not show it or lsblk does not list it, either usb stick is bad or usb port is bad
[14:45] <L00P3X> leftyfb: i'm trying whit the same usb i used to reinstall ubuntu 1 hour ago.. my HDD doesn't work like this one.. no possible :\
[14:46] <L00P3X> leftyfb: i think i found it.. the list was long.. will past the comand as whole.
[14:47] <L00P3X> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/2qmY63RL
[14:52] <L00P3X> leftyfb: even at disks it do not appear..
[14:56] <L00P3X> i get "end Kernel panic - not syncing VFS:unable to mount root" at boot.. o i used to reinstall the system (whit no data lost) problem wansn't resolvet and now i can't mound usb mass storage to save all my data to reinstall a new system.. used to boot from grub whit another firmware
[14:58] <L00P3X> need to mount my hdd and get save all my data please
[15:01] <pavlos> L00P3X: boot off a live CD, ctrl-alt-F1, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and then you could get your data from /mnt
[15:04] <L00P3X> pavlos: what is /mnt menioned to be? a live cd could be the best alternative if he would mount it
[15:04] <L00P3X> thank you will give it a try
[15:06] <pavlos> L00P3X: you are telling the system to mount partition sda1 to a mountpoint (a dir) called /mnt which exists in your system
[15:09] <L00P3X> pavlos: so i copy end past my data into mnt? i cant find a sda1 folder there
[15:12] <pavlos> L00P3X: no, if the mount was successful, ls /mnt should show you all the dirs in your system, your data is in /mnt/home/username
[15:13] <pavlos> L00P3X: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[15:13] <L00P3X> pavlos: this is what happened.. i thought i could see the data inside the usbstick.. and saw all my data again.. get confusing on how to put them on usb
[15:14] <ash_workz> why did they remove the ability to set titles on terminal windows in Ubuntu 16 ?
[15:15] <L00P3X> will see you later maybe.. will try something out :\
[15:16] <ducasse> ash_workz: that depends on which terminal emulator you use, most of them allow this one way or another
[15:17] <ash_workz> ducasse: whatever natively pops up when you do ctrl+alt+T without installing anything
[15:18] <ducasse> ash_workz: i'd guess that is gnome-terminal
[15:18] <ash_workz> afaik, it's just called 'Terminal'
[15:18] <pavlos> ash_workz: https://askubuntu.com/questions/774532/how-to-change-terminal-title-in-ubuntu-16-04
[15:18] <ash_workz> pavlos: I saw that; I am just curious as to why
[15:18] <ducasse> ash_workz: that's not really a support question
[15:19] <ash_workz> ducasse: yeah, you're right. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:20] <ducasse> ash_workz: the gnome devs have a habit of removing features, though - "you don't need this". *shrug*
[15:21] <ash_workz> pavlos: oh, I was looking at the same suggestion (for fixing) but not the same answer; it does mention "its not reliable enough for window managers to do matching against (which is why I think they removed it" -- thanks
[15:22] <ash_workz> ducasse: thanks for your input too
[15:22] <pavlos> ash_workz: seems 'set title' was deprecated in 16.04
[15:22] <ash_workz> yeah
[15:35] <dedo> suggestions on a good terminal emulator that doesnt use ctrl-shift-v/c?
[15:37] <dedo> and does anyone know an irc channel dealing with linux on surface pro's
[15:38] <leftyfb> dedo: what's wrong with the default/standard copy/paste?
[15:38] <leftyfb> dedo: almost all terminal emulators allow you to change keyboard shortcuts
[15:39] <dedo> hate the whole <shift> dealy
[15:39] <leftyfb> so change it
[15:39] <dedo> hmm, lemme look, may have missed that
[15:40] <dedo> .....well all be, there are days when im retarded
[15:42] <electricblue> exit
[15:44] <jamie_1> gotta love when you crash the shell because your modifying it while using it
[15:44] <bratchley> I have a weird issue, I'm using Unity and trying to get NetworkManager's openconnect plugin to work. I did "apt-get install -y openconnect network-manager-openconnect network-manager-openconnect-gnome" but "Edit Connections" died off so I waited a bit and rebooted. Now NetworkManager isn't appearing at all.
[15:45] <bratchley> not sure why just installing those packages killed off networkmanager
[15:45] <bratchley> if I do systemctl status NetworkManager it tells me it's masked
[15:48] <bratchley> not sure how to fix this given that I don't have networking anymore
[15:49] <void07> Hep : Can I rebind a nonworking "e1" button to another one in keyboard?
[15:52] <pavlos> bratchley: http://tomtomtom.org/networkmanager-openconnect/
[15:54] <void07> Can I rebind a nonworking "e1" button to another one in keyboard?
[15:56] <pavlos> bratchley: you might need network-manager-vpnc and/or network-manager-vpnc-gnome
[15:59] <tgm4883> bratchley: did it remove any packages when you installed that?
[16:00] <bratchley> pavlos: no I use openconnect on Fedora
[16:00] <bratchley> vpnc doesn't work with our VPN
[16:01] <ThetaOrionis> Hey guys, so I have an Asus 301SA Chromebook, and I've installed Ubuntu Mate xenial using Crouton on it. However, would you say dual booting is a better option on Chromebooks?
[16:01] <bratchley> :\ if that guide is right I'm not sure what to do
[16:02] <bratchley> I'm trying to document a build process for Ubuntu workstations and I can't really put a "configure make make install" in there
[16:02] <bratchley> it's going to be read by help desk people
[16:02] <ThetaOrionis> For example, I tried to scan a page using Simple Scan, and it failed to install drivers for my scanner. Perhaps the underlying limitations of Crouton are causing the failure
[16:02] <bratchley> tgm4883: I'm doing a re-install on the test desktop and I'll pause before I do it again but I don't think so
[16:03] <bratchley> I swear I've done this before
[16:03] <pavlos> bratchley: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/329148/openconnect-vpn-ceased-to-work-after-fedora-upgrade
[16:03] <elitecoder> Hi there. I'm editing my sudoers file and I need to place a multi-part Cmnd_Alias there. "/usr/bin/php /var/www/artisan schedule:run" is causing a syntax error in visudo. Any idea what i can do?
[16:03] <bratchley> on this same version of Ubuntu
[16:03] <bratchley> pavlos: yeah that's just saying to install the -gnome package that's on Ubuntu and Fedora
[16:07] <pavlos> elitecoder: sudoer examples ... http://softpanorama.biz/Access_control/Sudo/sudoer_file_examples.shtml
[16:07] <elitecoder> pavlos: Just checked through them all. No help there.
[16:08] <elitecoder> What i'm doing is trying to include paramters with the command so the sudoers command alias will be limited to not only the command, but the specific paramters the command is ran with.
[16:38] <pankaj> Sometimes my wifi automatically goes off and even though I switch it on and off again and again nothing happens. What should I do?
[16:39] <elitecoder> Hi there. I'm editing my sudoers file and I need to place a multi-part Cmnd_Alias there. "/usr/bin/php /var/www/artisan schedule:run" is causing a syntax error in visudo. Any idea what i can do?
[16:40] <pankaj> elitecoder: I think you need to place it in '~/.bashrc' file and not in sudoers.
[16:41] <elitecoder> pankaj: I'm not sure you know what sudoers does but thanks anyway
[16:43] <pankaj> elitecoder: I know a little but I would be pleased and thankfull if you give me full details about it.
[16:43] <pankaj> Sometimes my wifi automatically goes off and even though I switch it on and off again and again nothing happens. What should I do?
[16:43] <rory> elitecoder: Can you share the file, or at least that line?
[16:44] <elitecoder> rory: Cmnd_Alias = /usr/bin/php /var/www/artisan schedule:run
[16:44] <rory> maybe you need to escape the : with a \ in front of it
[16:44] <elitecoder> I'll give it a try one sec
[16:45] <elitecoder> rory: I did that and it passed visudo validation
[16:45] <elitecoder> rory: good eyes, thanks :)
[16:46] <pankaj> rory: What should I do? My wi-fi automatically toggles off and does not cacthes my wifi signal. I have to restart my Computer.
[16:47] <justPie> This is likely going to be a shot in the dark. But has anyone got a Dell TB16 docking station working in ubuntu?
[16:47] <justPie> Mines /working/ for the most part but their are some pretty big issues
[16:49] <DWSR> Hey all, what's the right way to override the configuration of a systemd service?
[16:49] <pankaj> Has anybody got answer to the question I just asked about wi-fi problem. Or nobody knows about how to fix that?
[16:52] <aloo_shu> pankaj maybe add details, like what is the wifi card&driver, do you use stock NetworkManager etc.
[16:54] <pankaj> aloo_shu: The problem is that sometimes my wi-fi automatically does not catch the home network even if it is on. So, I have to toggle it on again. And sometimes in process of toggling it neglects the home network totally even it is on. So, I have to restart the Laptop.
[16:56] <aloo_shu> pankaj just logging out and in already might save you time :)
[16:57] <pankaj> aloo_shu: Well, it is a good trick but I want to remove this problem as a whole.
[16:58] <aloo_shu> pankaj you can use dmesg in a terminal or a log viewer to see how far the handshake between computer and router proceed
[16:59] <aloo_shu> pankaj the problem could be *anywhere*, e.g. home grade router busy streaming somebody else's video and just not attending connect requests
[17:01] <pankaj> aloo_shu: But, why does not it happens with the windows if it is the router that have some adjustments that you stated above?
[17:02] <aloo_shu> ok, then it's rather not the router
[17:02] <rory> pankaj: no idea sorry
[17:02] <aloo_shu> logs may give clues
[17:03] <rory> DWSR: Is there anything in /etc/defaults/service_name
[17:03] <rory> DWSR: Maybe we can help doing the specific thing you're trying to do overall
[17:03] <DWSR> rory: Nope. I figured out where to place it, but I'm getting docker.service: Service has more than one ExecStart= setting, which is only allowed for Type=oneshot services. Refusing.
[17:04] <DWSR> the contents of my override.conf is `[Service]\nExecStart=\nExecStart=/usr/bin/dockerd\n`
[17:04] <rory> There are 2 ExecStarts in there :)
[17:04] <rory> typo
[17:04] <DWSR> I'm reading https://askubuntu.com/questions/659267/how-do-i-override-or-configure-systemd-services which states I need to clear ExecStart before replacing it.
[17:05] <DWSR> rory: Even if I only put a single ExecStart in, I get the same message.
[17:05] <codepython777> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25390627/ - anyone can tell me what is going on here - it takes 20 to 30 seconds for this usb connection to start working. It dies at boot.
[17:06] <rory> Are you using sudo systemctl edit docker
[17:06] <DWSR> Yes.
[17:06] <inc0> soo I'm trying to debug my suspend->slow laptop issue. one thing that worries me is lspci -n -vv returned correct list of devices, but none of them have kernel modules assigned
[17:06] <inc0> or at least lspci doesn't show kernel modules
[17:07] <rory> DWSR: If possible can you share the entire file on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:07] <inc0> lspci -nn -v *
[17:07] <DWSR> rory: The entire docker.service file?
[17:07] <rory> DWSR: To be clear, even if you only specify one, it still says "Service has more than one ExecStart= setting" ?
[17:07] <DWSR> rory: Only one in the override.conf
[17:07] <DWSR> And yes.
[17:08] <inc0> why this could happen?
[17:08] <DWSR> rory: Oh wait, I might be just reading the logs wrong, sec.
[17:08] <DWSR> Yeah, I am.
[17:09] <DWSR> rory: Thanks for your help :D
[17:09] <elitecoder> rory is on a roll :)
[17:11]  * rory is about to leave actually. Happy Vinayaka Chaturthi.
[17:11] <m5w> Hello.  I'd like to use xz-utils 5.2 to do multi-core compression.  However, I'm running 16.04, so I have 5.1.  Is there a PPA or something whence I can install the latest version, or should I just install from source?
[17:12] <DWSR> m5w: Have you checked backports?
[17:12] <gixxer1k> hey all, anyone else using artful? I've had problems with the today's update
[17:12] <m5w> DWSR, yes
[17:12] <m5w> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial-backports&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=xz-utils
[17:13] <m5w> nothing
[17:13] <gixxer1k> the openjdk9 package seems to be broken
[17:15] <gixxer1k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25390671/
[17:19] <tgm4883> !ubuntu+1 | gixxer1k
[17:21] <gixxer1k> ta tgm4883 && ubottu :D
[17:29] <DWSR> How can I pin a specific package version in Ubuntu 16.04?
[17:30] <DWSR> Does `sudo apt-mark hold <package>` work?
[17:37] <white_knight> Hi, I'm having trouble with symlink file, utsrelease.h. Please refer to this, and help me out run virtualbox.
[17:37] <white_knight> reference: https://gist.github.com/newbenhd/342bdbbf0fdba007ff3c434654ae2dbc
[17:38] <texla> I have a 50gb volume mounted in Ubuntu 16.04 How can I mount this volume in Mint 17.3
[17:42] <white_knight> broken symlink: https://gist.github.com/5f1e3dd74fc93253ea201fc5bac75a85
[17:47] <tgm4883> texla: likely the same way you mounted it in ubuntu? If that doesn't work, you should ask the mint people
[17:49] <texla> tgm4883, thanks
[17:52] <justPie> hey all, weird issue. I'm using a TB16 dell dock and my usb devices randomly disconnect and don't reconnect until i replug them in. Any ideas?
[18:17] <craigbass76> I've got a plantronics headset that I bought, and since I just quit working for the employer I used it with, I'm wondering how to utilize it in Ubuntu. What phone services are available? I see the sip free stuff with linphone and whatnot, but I want to be able to call regular phone lines.
[18:17] <craigbass76> Anyone found a way to use Linux with MagicJack?
[18:20] <leftyfb> craigbass76: google hangouts
[18:21] <craigbass76> leftyfb, You can call land lines from hangouts?
[18:21] <craigbass76> Had NO idea...
[18:22] <white_knight> ls
[18:23] <leftyfb> white_knight: wrong window
[18:23] <craigbass76> white_knight, phew, glad I'm not the only one...
[18:25] <effectnet> hello
[18:25] <white_knight> trying to run vmware, but this error occurred on ubuntu: https://gist.github.com/b2c9c5bfbd2c6d159b959845060220d4
[18:27] <leftyfb> white_knight: sudo apt-get install vmware-manager (works on 16.04 at the very least)
[18:27] <leftyfb> white_knight: if you're trying to install vmware from some other source, you'll have to seek support from that source
[18:28] <effectnet> i dunno why i cant network browse a printer on a windows machine, the other windows computers can...
[18:28] <leftyfb> effectnet: Ubuntu != Windows
[18:29] <effectnet> :D ok
 I had sucess with voipstunt in the past. Not sure if they
[18:30] <stealintv> are still around
[18:30] <craigbass76> effectnet, yeah, that's a whole can of worms. I just got done working for a company that had it's software running on a Linux server, and when customers wanted to share out printers, I just said "Nope. Get it on the network with either it's own ethernet jack, or if it's only got parallel ports get a print server."
[18:31] <effectnet> ah
[18:31] <DArqueBishop> craigbass76: I actually have my Google Voice/Hangouts number as the one on my resume.
[18:32] <leftyfb> effectnet: you can still type in the ip address of the printer/print server, select a drive and add it that way
[18:32] <effectnet> k
[18:33] <craigbass76> stealintv, nice -- looks like they're still in business
[18:34] <craigbass76> DArqueBishop, I'm going to be wanting to call some backwoods folks that can't pronounce Linux probably, but that would certainly work for collaborating with more tech-inclined people.
[18:35] <DArqueBishop> craigbass76: I can make outgoing calls from Hangouts to standard phones.
[18:37] <craigbass76> DArqueBishop, Really... I just tried calling my house and got nothing. I'll give it another whirl
[18:37] <black_13> how do you build a source package
[18:38] <black_13> how what do you do after running the command apt-get source packagname
[18:40] <nacc> black_13: "it's complicated". Why are you trying to build a source package?
[18:42] <craigbass76> DArqueBishop, duh -- that was numb. THanks.
[18:42] <craigbass76> DArqueBishop, VOIP problem solved, AND it works fine with the Plantronics.
[18:43] <DArqueBishop> craigbass76: good deal.
[18:46] <black_13> nacc: i want to build or do a debug build of a project that uses qt
[18:47] <black_13> so i can step through the source
[18:47] <tgm4883> black_13: is that project already in ubuntu? Source packages should be readily available
[18:48] <nacc> black_13: of a project?
[18:48] <black_13> yes its fritzing
[18:48] <white_knight> How do I downgrade kernel from 4.10.0-32-generic to 4.4.0-92-generic?
[18:48] <white_knight> uname -r returns 4.10.0-32-generic
[18:49] <tgm4883> black_13: are you familiar with adding repos in the software sources gui?
[18:50] <nacc> white_knight: you don't, you just install the other kernel and boot to it
[18:50] <tgm4883> black_13: once you enable the source repos you can just "apt source fritzing"
[18:50] <nacc> white_knight: iirc, for 16.04 that's just 'linux-image-generic'
[18:50] <nacc> tgm4883: they have the source
[18:50] <nacc> tgm4883: they want to build the binary packages (afaict)
[18:50] <tgm4883> oh
[18:50] <black_13> no
[18:50] <nacc> black_13: i would suggest using sbuild, rather than dpkg-buildpackage directly on your host system
[18:50] <black_13> ok
[18:50] <nacc> black_13: you said earlier "after yuou have a source package"?
[18:51] <black_13> ok
[18:51] <nacc> black_13: ok?
[18:51] <nacc> black_13: ok what?
[18:52] <black_13> lets go back i want to build from source package the fritzing page
[18:52] <black_13> s/page/package/g
[18:53] <white_knight> nacc: can you elaborate linux-image-generic means?
[18:54] <white_knight> nacc: there are linux-header and linux-image which I get confuse
[18:54] <nacc> black_13: are you making changes to said package?
[18:55] <nacc> white_knight: that's the name of the package to install
[18:55] <nacc> white_knight: 'linux-image-generic'
[18:55] <nacc> white_knight: linux-image is the actual kerenl, linux-headers are the source headers for the kernel
[18:55] <black_13> no just building
[18:56] <white_knight> nacc: how do i find out what kernels I have?
[18:57] <white_knight> nacc: including old kernels I have
[18:57] <nacc> black_13: why? why are you doing a no-change rebuild?
[18:57] <nacc> white_knight: look in /boot? as for packages, you can do something like `dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep ^ii
[18:58] <black_13> lets say i just want to
[18:59] <nacc> black_13: it's a hassle, so unless you have a good reason to, i wouldn't bother
[18:59] <bjrohan> I have read access on an smb share, how may I view the contents of a text file
[18:59] <black_13> i want to
[18:59] <nacc> black_13: you can use dpkg-buildpackage or sbuild, as i said, though. the former will require you install a bunch of packages in your system, the latter will use chroots
[18:59] <black_13> thanks i will go do that path
[19:02] <Mehrzad> how can i upgrade opera browser in ubuntu?
[19:02] <nacc> Mehrzad: opera is not an ubuntu package, you would need to ask wherever you got opera browser from
[19:03] <Mehrzad> nacc: ok
[19:04] <ducasse> Mehrzad: iirc there is a repo, instructions on the opera site
[19:05] <Mehrzad> ducasse: thanks. imma check
[19:07] <white_knight> nacc: doesn't kernel version has to be match to ubuntu version?
[19:08] <nacc> white_knight: i don't know what you mean? kernel versions are unrelated to ubuntu versions
[19:08] <nacc> white_knight: the supported kernels are specific to a given ubuntu version, but the version strings themselves are not related
[19:08] <white_knight> nacc: so any kernel versions run on any ubuntu version?
[19:08] <nacc> white_knight: i didn't say that
[19:09] <nacc> white_knight: i am taking you literally, if you meant something more figurative, you'll need to be clearer.
[19:11] <white_knight> nacc: sorry, I don't really know what kernels are...If I install kernel version 4.4.0 and boot into it, do I still have same ubuntu version?
[19:11] <xxMatiasxx> Hi, how can I get ubuntu automount my external hdd. It has 2 partitions, one HFS+ and one exFAT. Only the HFS+ gets automounted (which I actually don't want since it is journaled). When I open disks app, I can manually mount the exfat partition, but from nautilus it will say it is read only. Note: I have exfat packages installed.
[19:11] <nacc> white_knight: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack might help clarify
[19:12] <ducasse> white_knight: which ubuntu version is this?
[19:12] <white_knight> ducasse: 16.04.3 Xenial Xerus LTS
[19:12] <xxMatiasxx> I wonder why the usage of external hard drives sucks so much with linux
[19:13] <nacc> white_knight: so currently, on 16.04.* the two supported kernels are 4.4.* and 4.10.*
[19:13] <white_knight> nacc: The link helped! thanks.
[19:17] <pavlos> bjrohan: from command line you could 'cat thefile', from gui probably right click and view
[19:19] <bjrohan> pavlos, when I try cat it says command not found
[19:20] <pavlos> bjrohan: you're on a terminal, probably /home/brian and cat somefile says command not found?
[19:20] <bjrohan> pavlos, I am using a terminal, and in the terminal I am connected to an SMB share that I have read access to via smbclient
[19:24] <pavlos> bjrohan: if you're on the smb> prompt, there is no cat. I guess you can get the file, bring it local and then use cat
[19:26] <bjrohan> says acess denied. Oh well
[19:27] <jamie_1> hey, is there a way for me to have something run that will at lets say.... 3am open a terminal and run a script in the terminal
[19:28] <jamie_1> i want to make it so at 3-4am it will open a terminal and do a hg pull, hg update and compile
[19:28] <leftyfb> jamie_1: what is hg and why do you need it to "open a terminal" and do this? why not just write a script that does it and stick that in cron?
[19:29] <leftyfb> ah, mercurial svn
[19:29] <nacc> leftyfb: mercurial
[19:29] <nacc> yeah
[19:29] <jamie_1> leftyfb: i want it to open a terminal so if at the time im working with the mercurial repository i can cancel the pull build and compile
[19:29] <jamie_1> prevent me from loosing work in a tree
[19:29] <nacc> jamie_1: you won't be fast enough to cancel it
[19:30] <nacc> jamie_1: your methodology doesn't make much sense to me :)
[19:30] <jamie_1> nacc: will be enough to cancel before the update
[19:30] <tgm4883> Yea, that's just the wrong way to do it entirely
[19:30] <leftyfb> jamie_1: do this in another branch/location
[19:30] <pavlos> bjrohan: at the smb> I typed "get file mylocalfile" and it brought in mylocalfile with the contents of file
[19:30] <leftyfb> jamie_1: work in a different branch/location
[19:30] <pavlos> bjrohan: smb> help get
[19:30] <jamie_1> leftyfb: i am but i tend to still stage stuff sometimes where i should not
[19:31] <leftyfb> "i should not"
[19:31] <tgm4883> do your builds elsewhere then
[19:31] <nacc> jamie_1: seems way easier to change "where i should not" than to hack around it
[19:31] <jamie_1> nacc: also want to make it so i dont have to kill a pid if im using the computer at the time... if not the compile will take all cores and memory
[19:31] <xxMatiasxx> Hi, how can I get ubuntu automount my external hdd. It has 2 partitions, one HFS+ and one exFAT. Only the HFS+ gets automounted (which I actually don't want since it is journaled). When I open disks app, I can manually mount the exfat partition, but from nautilus it will say it is read only. Note: I have exfat packages installed.
[19:32] <jamie_1> i just want a way to user cancel without using kill pid
[19:32] <nacc> jamie_1: sounds like you don't really want to cron this
[19:32] <jamie_1> nacc: i usually wont be using the computer at the time but if i am i want to be able to cancel thats all
[19:32] <tgm4883> jamie_1: I'd just build an lxd container to do all of it, but if you insist on doing it this super weird way, then you should write a script to check for something (eg. your user is logged on, some program open, etc) and have it exit if that is detected, otherwise build
[19:33] <pavlos> xxMatiasxx: this may help, https://customerhelp.co.za/linux/ubuntu/correctly-auto-mount-seagate-exfat-external-usb-drive-ubuntu-permanent-mounting.html
[19:34] <leftyfb> jamie_1: or prompt the user for input before proceeding
[19:34] <tgm4883> jamie_1: then stick said script in crontab
[19:34] <leftyfb> with a timeout
[19:34] <jamie_1> leftyfb: thats funnily what i was typing XD
[19:34] <tgm4883> leftyfb: you'd still need to pop open a terminal
[19:34] <orion> Hi. What's the proper way to increase the maximum number of open file descriptors for a user?
[19:34] <leftyfb> jamie_1: there's better ways than opening a terminal
[19:35] <leftyfb> orion: ulimit
[19:35] <jamie_1> leftyfb: so what would you recommend?
[19:35] <orion> I have a program running as the user "solr", and I added a line *specifically* to limits.conf to address it.
[19:35] <jamie_1> at this point it might not be a "best way" really needed... just a working way
[19:35] <orion> However the daemon did not get the limit raised.
[19:36] <orion> Instead, I had to change the ulimit *for my SSH session* and then run "service solr restart".
[19:36] <nacc> orion: limits.conf is for login sessions
[19:36] <orion> I am concerned that if the machine reboots, the limits will go back to what they were.
[19:36] <tgm4883> jamie_1: to do that, use notify-send to send a notification to the screen. Then have a timer for "10 seconds" before it starts building. Then you can kill the PID
[19:36] <orion> I want to make them permanent.
[19:36] <leftyfb> jamie_1: zenity
[19:36] <bjrohan> pavlos, I am trying to access a file on the remote server, what would the mylocalfile be fore? help get returns <remote name> [local name] get a file
[19:36] <jamie_1> leftyfb: do explain
[19:36] <jamie_1> tgm4883: just have it pop up a window with the pid in it to cancel if i want to
[19:37] <tgm4883> jamie_1: zenity would be better as you would get a button to kill it. Doing it my way means you still need to open a terminal and "kill PID"
[19:38] <jamie_1> hrm... looking into zenity
[19:38] <pavlos> bjrohan: the smb> does not have a cat or view so I dont know what else to suggest, I'm looking on my own system if I find something
[19:38] <jamie_1> also... i never said crontab... all i did was ask for a way to do that task
[19:38] <bjrohan> pavlos, thank you :-)
[19:39] <tgm4883> jamie_1: Nobody said you did?
[19:40] <jamie_1> nvm, own stupidity
[19:45] <xxMatiasxx> blah
[19:45] <xxMatiasxx> ubuntu is so lame this days
[19:45] <xxMatiasxx> a basic usage like plugging in an external hdd sucks
[19:45] <xxMatiasxx> I will just sudo nautilus and that's it
[19:46] <leftyfb> xxMatiasxx: I have zero problems plugging in an external hdd
[19:46] <xxMatiasxx> because you probably edited the fstab
[19:46] <jamie_1> i might just get lazy and add the script into my quick toggler and have it toggle to run or not and have a cron to pop up a message to tell me to switch it off it im awake XD
[19:46] <leftyfb> xxMatiasxx: nrgative
[19:46] <nacc> xxMatiasxx: using proprietary filesystems is a choice you make
[19:46] <leftyfb> xxMatiasxx: negative
[19:46] <xxMatiasxx> how then?
[19:46] <leftyfb> xxMatiasxx: how what?
[19:47] <xxMatiasxx> nacc, I need to share info between linux, mac and windows machine
[19:47] <nacc> xxMatiasxx: also a choice you are making? you can use vfat for that, afaik.
[19:47] <xxMatiasxx> that's why I have a partition exfat in my hdd, called "exchange" btw
[19:47] <leftyfb> xxMatiasxx: then use FAT32 or NTFS
[19:47] <ioria> xxMatiasxx, please, try killall nautilus and reopen
[19:47] <xxMatiasxx> leftyfb, ntfs won't work good on mac, fat32 won't let me have files bigger than 4G
[19:47] <xxMatiasxx> ioria, ok
[19:48] <leftyfb> xxMatiasxx: ntfs works just fine on mac
[19:48] <xxMatiasxx> ioria, omg
[19:48] <xxMatiasxx> it worked
[19:48] <xxMatiasxx> what the hell ?
[19:48] <ioria> xxMatiasxx, it's a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1021375
[19:49] <xxMatiasxx> yeaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!
[19:49] <oerheks> install nautilus-actions nautilus-admin and you have 'edit as administrator' in the menu
[19:49] <xxMatiasxx> I knew it had to be something with nautilus, because it works perfectly from console
[19:50] <xxMatiasxx> ioria, another problem I have is that my hdd has 2 partitions, and it just automounts the first one, I have to manually mount the second one
[19:50] <orion> leftyfb: I found out what needed to be done. I needed to modify the pam.d/su config file and enable pam_limits.so for sessions.
[19:50] <xxMatiasxx> any hints about what is the problem with that ?
[19:50] <orion> All is well now.
[19:51] <xxMatiasxx> oerheks, that nautilus-actions is for me ?
[19:51] <ioria> xxMatiasxx, the exfat it's not automounting ?
[19:51] <xxMatiasxx> ioria, nope
[19:51] <xxMatiasxx> it automounts an HFS+ though
[19:51] <ioria> xxMatiasxx, what ?
[19:51] <xxMatiasxx> it is not automounting
[19:52] <xxMatiasxx> the exfat one
[19:52] <xxMatiasxx> when I plug the hdd
[19:52] <xxMatiasxx> I have to do it manually which is not that bad, but would be cool to have it done auto
[19:52] <oerheks> if the partition does not automount, it is probably dirty/not clean, run a filecheck.
[19:52] <oerheks> general tips, xxMatiasxx
[19:53] <pavlos> bjrohan: one way is to mount that smb locally to your system and then you can use cat. example: sudo mount -t cifs //canyon/public /mnt/brian/ Now, ls /mnt/brian shows me text files which I can cat.
[19:53] <xxMatiasxx> oerheks, it is a brand new hdd with an new exfat partition, you think that it can be the problem ?
[19:54] <cli-rookie> I can't get past the "Welcome to Ubuntu" screen in the installation process
[19:54] <pavlos> bjrohan: you need, sudo apt-get install cifs-utils
[19:54] <cli-rookie> Or am I supposed to wait until something happens?
[19:54] <ioria> xxMatiasxx, weird,  exfat drives automount normally if fuse-exfat has been installed
[19:54] <bjrohan> pavlos, Will give it a go, thank you!
[19:54] <oerheks> oh, exfat does not automount, when you don't have it in fstab
[19:55] <xxMatiasxx> oerheks, ioria ? heeh who has the reason ?
[19:55] <xxMatiasxx> yes or no ?
[19:56] <ioria> xxMatiasxx, let's try fstab ....
[19:56] <xxMatiasxx> it works with fstab
[19:56] <OnkelTem_> Hi all
[19:56] <xxMatiasxx> I tried
[19:56] <OnkelTem_> I can't configure sound recording on a newly installed Kubuntu 16.04
[19:56] <oerheks> ioria, here it shows up on the panel, but not mounted
[19:56] <OnkelTem_> I test it in Audacity. But whatever device I select - there is no sound
[19:56] <oerheks> exfat, that is
[19:56] <ioria> oerheks, yeah
[19:56] <xxMatiasxx> the problem with the fstab is that i have to mount -a
[19:57] <OnkelTem_> How to elaborate the reason of this?
[19:57] <renn0xtk9> I got a package with unmet dependencies : qtbase-abi-5-5-1
[19:57] <renn0xtk9> anyone knows where I could get it ?
[19:57] <xxMatiasxx> I think i will go with the instalation of autofs
[19:57] <nacc> renn0xtk9: that's not a pacakge, it's a symbol provided by a package
[19:57] <OnkelTem_> Also I can't comprehend the interface of multimedia configuration on Kubuntu. It's just f*d up
[19:58] <nacc> renn0xtk9: can you pastebin the exact command and output?
[20:00] <fedorafan> hey can I stop kernelupgrades anyhow
[20:00] <oerheks> OnkelTem_, for recording, did you install the "lame mpg123" packages?
[20:00] <oerheks> !info lame
[20:00] <nacc> fedorafan: why would you want to do that? what upgrades?
[20:01] <fedorafan> nacc because I got a ubuntu virtual machine with not that much space
[20:01] <nacc> fedorafan: kernel updates tend to be for bugfixes and security issues
[20:01] <OnkelTem_> oerheks: Hi! no, but why? I mean I can't get sound from mic
[20:01] <fedorafan> nacc hmm ok understand but it makes it difficult too handle free space
[20:02] <nacc> fedorafan: how much space do you have? do you mean in /boot?
[20:02] <fedorafan> 1gb
[20:02] <nacc> fedorafan: that's way more than enough
[20:02] <nacc> fedorafan: sounds like you aren't running `sudo apt autoremove` or so
[20:02] <oerheks> OnkelTem_, oh mic, i though other recording. for control, i would install pavu, but i am on ubuntu.
[20:02] <fedorafan> nacc in what context
[20:02] <nacc> fedorafan: and/or removed the metapackages that help manage this for you
[20:02] <nacc> fedorafan: in any context?
[20:03] <OnkelTem_> oerheks: specs claim there is a mic in the front socket. I want to make sure there is one. But I can't disassemble it to ensure, so I hoped to get it from software
[20:03] <nacc> fedorafan: apt, at least, gives that prompt to run it, when there is antyhing to autremove (I think everywhere, but definitely in the last few releases)
[20:03] <OnkelTem_> oerheks: unfortunately UI is so confusing that it's almost to impossible to understand which device means what
[20:03] <fedorafan> dont know what you want say to me
[20:04] <OnkelTem_> For example in Audacity I see aproximately 5 different recording devices. Well, none of them work
[20:04] <nacc> fedorafan: does `sudo apt autoremove` attempt to remove unused kernels?
[20:04] <OnkelTem_> oerheks: ok, I'll check out pavu
[20:04] <fedorafan> I try
[20:05] <fedorafan> it says 224MB will be freed
[20:05] <fedorafan> linux headers will be removed yes that sounds good
[20:05] <nacc> fedorafan: that's not what i asked? is it removing kernels?
[20:05] <fedorafan> yes
[20:05] <nacc> fedorafan: not headers, that's irrelevant to /boot
[20:05] <nacc> fedorafan: linux-image*
[20:05] <fedorafan> I just quote
[20:05] <ducasse> OnkelTem_: he probably meant pavucontrol, i also like pasystray
[20:05] <nacc> fedorafan: please use a pastebin
[20:06] <fedorafan> ok
[20:07] <fedorafan> https://pastebin.com/7kib3g4i
[20:07] <nacc> fedorafan: that won't save any space in /boot
[20:07] <fedorafan> ok
[20:08] <nacc> fedorafan: please pastebin `ls -ahl /boot`
[20:08] <fedorafan> should I free and check?
[20:08] <fedorafan> ok
[20:08] <fedorafan> I say no
[20:09] <nacc> fedorafan: it shouldn't matter -- you can do the autoremove at your leisure
[20:09] <fedorafan> https://pastebin.com/7KmBqDCx
[20:09] <fedorafan> I follow your instruction
[20:09] <nacc> fedorafan: um, you're nohere near out of space in /boot?
[20:09] <nacc> fedorafan: you only have two kernels installed currently, which is fine
[20:10] <fedorafan> so all fine?
[20:12] <fedorafan> you said it will remove not used kernels so why it doesnt show the one I dont use to remove
[20:13] <nacc> fedorafan: because you always want to keep the two most recent kernels, in case the new kernel fails
[20:13] <nacc> fedorafan: you can manually remove the older kernel, but it's not a problem of space
[20:13] <fedorafan> wait manually so you say 2 have to be there
[20:13] <fedorafan> what
[20:14] <nacc> fedorafan: wait what?
[20:14] <fedorafan> I dont got you
[20:14] <fedorafan> [22:13:36]  <nacc>	fedorafan: because you always want to keep the two most recent kernels, in case the new kernel fails
[20:14] <fedorafan> no I dont
[20:14] <fedorafan> but ok 2 have to be there
[20:14] <nacc> yes, you do.
[20:14] <fedorafan> why
[20:15] <fedorafan> I dont
[20:15] <fedorafan> who said I want
[20:15] <bjrohan> pavlos, weird, with some mods I got the mount to work. using cat failed, said I didn't have the correct permission, however ls -l gave: -rwxr-xr-x
[20:15] <bjrohan> meaning I shuould be able to read it
[20:15] <nacc> because when the second kernel is installed, and it fails, how d you recover if the older kernel is removed?
[20:15] <nacc> fedorafan: --^
[20:15] <nacc> fedorafan: everyone wants that. it's a policy decision in ubuntu, is what i mean. not you specifically
[20:15] <fedorafan> so you mean its better to got a backup kernel
[20:15] <nacc> fedorafan: sure
[20:15] <fedorafan> ok
[20:16] <fedorafan> and if I got more than 2
[20:16] <pavlos> bjrohan: maybe you need sudo cat file if owner is root can you paste ls -l /mnt
[20:16] <fedorafan> the rest will be removed with sudo apt autoremove?
[20:16] <renn0xtk9> nacc https://pastebin.com/gqczKaeT
[20:16] <nacc> fedorafan: yes, that's the idea
[20:16] <fedorafan> works for me thanks
[20:16] <nacc> fedorafan: although your /boot looks messed up
[20:17] <nacc> fedorafan: did you truncate your paste?
[20:17] <nacc> fedorafan: or maybe the 4.10 kernel failed ot install?
[20:17] <fedorafan> yeah I did some stuff removing kernels by instructions I got by google
[20:17] <fedorafan> cant remember what exactly
[20:18] <nacc> yeah, that's not a good choice :)
[20:18] <fedorafan> ok
[20:18] <nacc> you're doing things as root which can make your system unbootable
[20:18] <nacc> you really should know *what* you're doing
[20:18] <fedorafan> what is better
[20:18] <pavlos> bjrohan: if you're not allowed to look into that dir (a level up), then 755 wont help
[20:18] <nacc> fedorafan: i don't know, i don't know what state your system was in
[20:18] <fedorafan> neither
[20:18] <nacc> fedorafan: but right now, the 4.10 kernel is unlikely to boot anymore
[20:18] <nacc> fedorafan: so i'd recommend reinstalling linux-image-generic
[20:18] <fedorafan> ok
[20:18] <fedorafan> how to?
[20:19] <bjrohan> pavlos, ls -l /mnt is drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Jan 5 2016 host_128
[20:19] <bjrohan> host_128 is my mount dir for the samba
[20:19] <nacc> fedorafan: `sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic`?
[20:19] <fedorafan> ok
[20:20] <fedorafan> https://pastebin.com/JiU1Gumw
[20:20] <fedorafan> yes?
[20:20] <nacc> fedorafan: oh wait, sorry
[20:20] <fedorafan> ok
[20:20] <pavlos> bjrohan: mine showed up as, drwxrwxrwx+  2 root root    0 Aug 25 12:37 brian/
[20:20] <nacc> fedorafan: `sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04`?
[20:21] <fedorafan> lets try
[20:21] <fedorafan> here
[20:21] <fedorafan> https://pastebin.com/f3Bf5pL8
[20:21] <pavlos> bjrohan: also shows if I do, df -h
[20:22] <nacc> fedorafan: yes, looks right
[20:22] <fedorafan> allright
[20:22] <fedorafan> yes
[20:22] <renn0xtk9> I don't get why, since libqt5core5a:amd64 is installed on my computer
[20:23] <GrandPa-G> is this a good place for an apache2 question?
[20:23] <nicomachus> GrandPa-G: depends. Is it mostly an Ubuntu question?
[20:23] <nicomachus> otherwise, ##networking may be better. Or a dedicated apache channel.
[20:24] <nicomachus> GrandPa-G: best to just ask the question, and people will let you know if they can answer or if someone else may be better suited.
[20:24] <fedorafan> nacc its done
[20:24] <fedorafan> reboot?
[20:24] <nacc> fedorafan: pastebin `ls -ahl /boot` again?
[20:24] <fedorafan> ok
[20:25] <fedorafan> https://pastebin.com/ZPBPGbdk
[20:25] <nacc> renn0xtk9: looking
[20:25] <GrandPa-G> I want to execute a python script inside my php web page. I am not sure how to configure apache2. I have used this as a guide, but that appears to be if you just want to run the script only, not embedded.
[20:28] <nacc> renn0xtk9: in my test env, gammaray installs fine. `apt-cache policy gammaray gammaray-probe-qt4` in a pastebin?
[20:30] <renn0xtk9> https://pastebin.com/JQaBhS2k
[20:31] <nacc> renn0xtk9: and `apt-cache policy libqt5core5a` ?
[20:32] <fedorafan> nacc?
[20:32] <nacc> fedorafan: ok, you should be ok to reboot into 4.10.0-32
[20:32] <fedorafan> ok
[20:33] <fedorafan> no grub menu
[20:33] <renn0xtk9> nacc https://pastebin.com/ZCLPYALP
[20:34] <nacc> renn0xtk9: right, don't use PPAs :)
[20:34] <nacc> renn0xtk9: you're using something from neon
[20:34] <nacc> renn0xtk9: and mixing it with other stuff, just normal neon breakage
[20:34] <fedorafan> its booted up
[20:35] <fedorafan> but dont know what kernel
[20:35] <nacc> fedorafan: `uname -r`
[20:35] <fedorafan> ok
[20:35] <fedorafan> 4.10.0-32-generic
[20:36] <nacc> fedorafan: looks good
[20:36] <fedorafan> now?
[20:36] <nacc> fedorafan: i think you did something by hand to your /boot so i'm not sure autoremove will work properly for reomving the 4.8 kerenl, you can do that by hand. And you can remove the older 4.10 kernel if -32 is working
[20:36] <fedorafan> that is too much for me for now
[20:37] <fedorafan> I would like to keep 4.8
[20:37] <fedorafan> that worked good
[20:37] <nacc> fedorafan: 4.8 is no longer supported
[20:37] <fedorafan> ok
[20:37] <fedorafan> but I want to got it as backup
[20:37] <nacc> fedorafan: and you're on 4.10 so why would you want to keep 4.8?
[20:38] <fedorafan> because it worked good
[20:38] <nacc> fedorafan: then you probably should pin it by installing that kernel package manaully
[20:38] <fedorafan> how to
[20:39] <nacc> fedorafan: something like `sudo apt-get install linux-image-extra-4.8.0-58-generic`
[20:39] <fedorafan> ok
[20:39] <renn0xtk9> nacc I trief to download the deb pkg and sudo dpkg -i but had same issue
[20:39] <nacc> renn0xtk9: yes, you have a PPA providing a broken package.
[20:40] <nacc> renn0xtk9: remove the ppa, or contact the owner to fix their package
[20:40] <ducasse> nacc: isn't -extra just modules, not the actual kernel?
[20:40] <nacc> ducasse: erp, yes
[20:40] <nacc> fedorafan: sorry, not -extra, you'll want 'linux-image-4.8.0-58-generic'
[20:40] <nacc> ducasse: i think -extra will pull in -image if not already installed, but you're right, for marking, wont' help
[20:40] <fedorafan> oh I did sorry
[20:41] <renn0xtk9> nacc if i remove the ppa, will it remove the packages already installed associated to it ?
[20:41] <nacc> renn0xtk9: well, you want to purge the ppa, yes
[20:41] <fedorafan> https://pastebin.com/sKfK4a9Z
[20:41] <nacc> renn0xtk9: othewrise, you can be in a weird state
[20:41] <apb1963> ubuntu 16.04; mtr has been indicating packet loss to <IP_ADDRESS>; As the errors are all at my router, I disconnected it and plugged directly into the cable modouter.  Doing so fails to give me an IP address.  Returning to the original config (with router plugged into modouter) works again, albeit with ongoing errors.  What am I missing?
[20:41] <renn0xtk9> I mean can I just comment the ppa out install gammaray and uncomment it
[20:41] <renn0xtk9> hmm okay. well but then purge it will probably remove most of my DE
[20:41] <nacc> renn0xtk9: no, because it won't uninstall the broken package
[20:42] <renn0xtk9> hmm shit
[20:42] <nacc> renn0xtk9: then tell neon to build a new version of gammaray
[20:42] <fedorafan> what is extra and what to do now?
[20:42] <nacc> renn0xtk9: that they don't is a bug in their repository
[20:42] <nacc> fedorafan: you can remove -extra and install the one without -extra
[20:42] <fedorafan> so again without extra
[20:42] <nacc> fedorafan: extra is just extra modules, which you didn't have before, s you don't need now
[20:42] <fedorafan> removing them or its fine like that now?
[20:43] <fedorafan> I pastebind it
[20:43] <nacc> fedorafan: your choice, you can remove -extra or leave it, but do install the base kenerl package 'linux-image-4.8.0-58-generic'
[20:43] <fedorafan> OK install without extra now
[20:44] <fedorafan> https://pastebin.com/ZjHuKK2T
[20:45] <fedorafan> can you explain what we do right now
[20:45] <renn0xtk9>  okay.. well still thank you  nacc ;)
[20:45] <fedorafan> I dont like making stuff by saying do that without knowing what is happening
[20:45] <nacc> fedorafan: what do you want to know?
[20:46] <fedorafan> you wanted to see what by ls -ahl /boot
[20:46] <nacc> fedorafan: feels a little ridiculous, given that you ran some commands from google
[20:46] <nacc> fedorafan: i wanted to see what kernels you had that you said were filling up /boot
[20:46] <fedorafan> ok
[20:46] <nacc> fedorafan: but your /boot wasn't full, and you had deleted stuff by hand
[20:46] <fedorafan> so it wasnt clean anymore?
[20:47] <nacc> fedorafan: i don't know what you mean by clean?
[20:47] <nacc> fedorafan: it would appear you tried to by hand remove files owned by packages
[20:47] <nacc> fedorafan: that's almost never a good idea
[20:47] <fedorafan> I hadnt space left
[20:47] <fedorafan> first I manually erased and then by apt
[20:48] <nacc> fedorafan: that doesn't work
[20:48] <nacc> fedorafan: well, it didn't work the way you wanted
[20:48] <nacc> fedorafan: you deleted a kernel you might have been in (it appeared)
[20:49] <fedorafan> true
[20:50] <fedorafan> it did work but had to reinstall stuff
[20:50] <fedorafan> dont remember well
[20:50] <fedorafan> well as a smart system I would claim it sees there is not much space left it will not install kernels whatever more
[20:50] <fedorafan> thats not given
[20:53] <nacc> fedorafan: that would be terrible and is not how apt works
[20:53] <fedorafan> well otherwise I wouldnt have the problem of space
[20:53] <fedorafan> it did until it was full
[20:53] <fedorafan> stupid shit
[20:54] <Bashing-om> fedorafan: ' df -h ' tells a good tale .
[20:54] <fedorafan> now its fine
[20:54] <nacc> fedorafan: you were presuambly ignoring messages (such as 'run apt autoremove' as you just pastebinned) and/or didn't configure your system to run autoremove for you (unattended-upgrades). I've been running the same system since pre-16.04 and have never had /boot fill up.
[20:54] <fedorafan> fine for now
[20:55] <fedorafan> not my topic
[20:55] <fedorafan> really not thanks for all your help
[20:57] <fedorafan> sudo apt autoremove right
[20:58] <fedorafan> I did so
[20:58] <fedorafan> and
[20:58] <fedorafan> https://pastebin.com/FSezbr4n
[20:58] <fedorafan> 4.10.0-30 left
[20:59] <nacc> fedorafan: i already addressed that earlier. YOu did some manual breakage
[20:59] <nacc> fedorafan: and have to fix it yourself
[20:59] <fedorafan> ok
[21:00] <nacc> fedorafan: you can see if the corresopnding packages are installed or not, and remove them, etc.
[21:00] <isantop> So, I'm having a minor problem on 17.10. Totem and the new settings app both have menubars. Anyone know where the best people to talk to about that are?
[21:00] <nacc> isantop: #ubuntu+1 for 17.10
[21:01] <fedorafan> whatever nacc good job thanks
[21:01] <isantop> Thanks
[21:03] <fedorafan> so.I need to google again right :D
[21:09] <theseb> possible to nicely run GUI programs (like audacity) on a remote  Amazon Linux VM?  ssh -X iirc?
[21:17] <nacc> fedorafan: or rather than google, learn? I'm not trying to be rude, but it feels like you're not spending the time to educate yourself on basic maintenance
[21:19] <fedorafan> nacc linux is just a playing ground to me for now and you arent rude
[21:19] <nacc> fedorafan: ok
[21:24] <fedorafan> its nice to have guys like you in this room here nacc
[21:37] <malinus> I'm still figuring out systemd: Shouldn't all the service scripts i.e. network-manager.service, be in the /etc/systemd/network directory?
[21:42] <tgm4883> malinus: no, only ones you change
[21:42] <nacc> malinus: /etc/systemd is for configuring systemd, not, generally, for storing service files. What service files are in /etc/systemd/system are symlinks to /lib/systemd or to /dev/null (in my experience)
[21:43] <oerheks> correct, The default location for systemd init scripts: /lib/systemd/system But the preferred way to modify them is to create a custom script in: /etc/systemd/system/
[21:43] <nacc> malinus: see `man systemd` DIRECTORIES sectionn for some explanation
[21:43] <malinus> ah thanks. I'm still reading man I just got a bit confused about that part.
[22:34] <tomreyn> malinus: need any heplk there, got a specific question= then just post it here
[22:36] <tomreyn> less vocal folks wilkl have a hard time on irc unless they ask very speciifc questins (and sometimes even then :-/ )
[22:36] <tomreyn> wilkl -> folks
[22:48] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[22:48] <OnkelTem> My camera doesn't work in Skype and Browser
[22:48] <OnkelTem> Any ideas why could that be an issue?
[22:49] <OnkelTem> I'm using KDE, 16.04
[22:50] <tomreyn> lsusb -v | pastebinit
[22:51] <antonm> Hi
[22:52] <OnkelTem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25392483/
[22:52] <antonm> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on the 2017 MacBook Pro w/ touch bar?
[22:53] <OnkelTem> antonm: I like your approach. I once installed Ubuntu on a MacBook (that one was of 2013) and felt charm
[22:54] <OnkelTem> I first tried to convince myself that I can get used to MacOS. But no.
[22:54] <OnkelTem> tomreyn: well, seems like there is no my cam in that list.
[22:54] <OnkelTem> But if I start for example Audacity and select there my cam as recording device then it works
[22:55] <OnkelTem> and currently the LED on the cam doesn't work. But when I record from it (in Audiacity e.g.) it's switched on
[22:55] <oerheks> antonm, good overview https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux
[22:58] <antonm> What makes the wifi for MacBookPro14,1 different than MacBookPro14,2
[22:59] <kk4ewt> the cheap chip of the day they used when building
[23:00] <oerheks> Microsoft VX-2000 Lifecam  Device 006: ID 045e:0761 Microsoft Corp.
[23:01] <oerheks> wasn't there something with the vx-1000/2000/3000 .. bad drivers?
[23:02] <OnkelTem> it worked perfectly for two years on Ubuntu 14.04
[23:03] <OnkelTem> had no any problems with it, ever
[23:03] <OnkelTem> No I can't configure system to use it. I *can* use it in Audacity but it's not set as default
[23:05] <OnkelTem> Jack on the front panel of my PC didn't work either. So now with this computer I have no any options to make a call or something
[23:05] <OnkelTem> And that's in two days before I take this computer and go in other town, where I have to work
[23:07] <Jordan_U> OnkelTem: Does the webcam work with Cheese or another modern, linux-first app (as opposed to Skype which we know to be a very poor port)?
[23:07] <OnkelTem> Jordan_U: vokoscreen - yes, no any issues
[23:08] <Jordan_U> OnkelTem: Can you set it as the default audio input in KDE settings? (You might get better help for KDE in #kubuntu)
[23:08] <OnkelTem> cheese haven't tried yet, let me see is it gonna bring the whole bunch on dependencies
[23:09] <OnkelTem> Jordan_U: I did. No effect
[23:09] <OnkelTem> Asked
[23:11] <Jordan_U> OnkelTem: What happens when you try to use the webcam in skype? Are you using it for audio and video or only audio? What browser are you using when you try to use a browser?
[23:12] <OnkelTem> Jordan_U: it doesn't work in Skype. Having 5.4 beta for Linux. As you probably know they've removed Options things. The only way to change device now is to press (+) sign during the call (morons!)
[23:12] <OnkelTem> and there when I select my cam as video and audio devices - nothings happens
[23:13] <OnkelTem> my camera first blinks its light (green LED), then it dims and it's over
[23:13] <OnkelTem> no sound no video
[23:13] <OnkelTem> Browser - latest google chrome for Linux/Dev
[23:13] <OnkelTem> Deb
[23:14] <OnkelTem> Let me try Konqueror
[23:14] <OnkelTem> Oh, it's missed? :) Finally they've stopped?
[23:16] <Jordan_U> OnkelTem: What happens when you try to use the webcam from Chrome? Are you testing with skype's website?
[23:17] <OnkelTem> Jordan_U: yes, I tried Skype website with the same result.
[23:18] <OnkelTem> Jordan_U: Now I've tested it in Firefox and it's a bit different then it was with Chrome. It allowed me to select which microphone I'd like to allow for using
[23:18] <OnkelTem> and there I selected Microsoft VX-2000 cam. But the light on the cam was off.
[23:18] <OnkelTem> So I couldn't get it working anyway
[23:20] <OnkelTem> https://www.onlinemictest.com/ - I justed this website for testing btw
[23:21] <codepython777>  https://paste.ubuntu.com/25390489/ - can anyone tell me what is wrong with my usb connection on this machine? At times it works.
[23:25] <OnkelTem> Jordan_U: btw I see the camera in pavucontrol, and the bar on Input Devices tab is showing incoming sound
[23:25] <OnkelTem> and once I switch there the light is always on
[23:27] <Deckon> hello
[23:28] <Deckon> It is posible have ubuntu lts and ubuntu 17.10 without problems with grub?
[23:31] <oerheks> millions run ubuntu without problems with grub.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> OnkelTem: And after making it the default input in pavucontrol can you then use Skype / https://www.onlinemictest.com successfully?
[23:49] <cstk421> interfaces and resolve.conf look normal yet cant resolve dns.  thoughts ?
[23:50] <OnkelTem> Jordan_U: no. First I'm not sure how to make it default. I tried clicking on "Fallback" and it didn't change anything. Also it doesn't seem to be a setting which preserved cuz in this session when I reviseted it the default was set back to Built In card
[23:51] <OnkelTem> I mean it was reset(ted) by something else, like there's something which rules it
[23:51] <OnkelTem> I'm out of ideas. Camera works, but system can't use it
[23:52] <OnkelTem> Are you guys aware of some Java application which can use cam/mic?
[23:52] <OnkelTem> I want to give it a try, as to an independent party :)
[23:54] <cstk421> nevermind fixed :)
[23:55] <OnkelTem> How to report a bug on my issue?