[04:20] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:20] <Flannel> lansing: You've installed java?
[04:20] <grok> Lil_shank: no they can't be combined...the linux ext3 is the partition your linux os is installed on, and i *think* the second "linux partition" (its a linux swap) is kind of like extra ram
[04:20] <lansing> yes
[04:20] <Lil_Shank> Geoffrey2, how would i use cfdisk to create a new ext3 partition and mount it?
[04:20] <Geoffrey2> Lil_Shank, I've never used cfdisk, sorry
[04:21] <Lil_Shank> Geoffrey2, thanks anyways :)
[04:21] <lansing> could be rong jave
[04:21] <lansing> wat site do i get it
[04:21] <Flannel> !tell lansing about frostwire
[04:21] <psusi> how does X normally auto configure itself and how can I force it to do so again, and regenerate /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:21] <Flannel> lansing: that page goes over it all, you'll be using this java though
[04:21] <Flannel> !tell lansing about java
[04:22] <psusi> I ask because I upgraded my video card recntly and X won't use any modes > 648 x 480 because it says the hsync values are out of range on all the other modes
[04:22] <paolob> !help
[04:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:23] <avagant> !me
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <avagant> Still working on that bash script. :(
[04:23] <whyso> can u resize ext3 partitian?
[04:23] <Lil_Shank> whyso, i've been told you cant
[04:23] <grok> whyso: no, ext3 partitions cannot be resized
[04:23] <psusi> whyso: I believe gparted can do that
[04:24] <whyso> ah ok, what about rizer?
[04:24] <psusi> reiser?  I think gparted can handle that as well
[04:24] <grok> psusi, whyso: no ext3 partition can be resized. you can resize your "windows" partition, but not an ext3. ever.
[04:24] <tamacracker> Can someone help me remount my HDD?... This is the 2nd time it randomly unmounted itself
[04:25] <psusi> grok: why not ext3?  I could swear parted supports ext for sure
[04:25] <paolob> !search *
[04:25] <ubotu> Found: packages,ati-#ubuntu-xgl,picard,fglrx-#ubuntu-xgl,kudos,buntudot,kdesu,pong,password
[04:25] <whyso> sorry didnt understand psusi can reiser be resized?
[04:25] <lansing> iam confused
[04:25] <psusi> wyso: I'm prety sure, yes... reiser can even increase its size on the fly with some aid from fdisk and a remount
[04:26] <grok> psusi: i don't konw, but i've read on countless sites that ext3's can't be resized. don't know why. also i've tried it, it didn't work. :)
[04:26] <tamacracker> Could not show 'file:///media/illriginal/My%20Downloads' Details: The location or file could not be found.
[04:26] <psusi> grok: you tried booting from the live cd and using gparted?
[04:26] <whyso> ah ok, well whats better about ext3 then?
[04:26] <psusi> whyso: not much
[04:26] <efrun> Is the version of gnome in Edgy any faster then dapper?  I had to switch to xfce due to extremely poor response from Gnome.
[04:27] <grok> psusi: i've tried qtparted, not gparted. i might be wrong but i thought that ext3's were just unchangable
[04:27] <psusi> grok: what about ext2?  I'm SURE parted can do that
[04:27] <Flannel> efrun: #ubuntu+1 for edgy questions
[04:27] <grok> psusi: never tried it, sorry
[04:27] <psusi> and ext3 is just ext2 + a journal... tune2fs can swap a partition back and forth between 2 and 3 easy
[04:27] <avagant> how has your experience been with xfce, i found mine to be really glitchy.
[04:27] <whyso> one question leads to 2 :) why isnt reiser the defualt, and how hard is it to change to it (from clean install)
[04:27] <Flannel> whyso: changing requires complete backup/etc, be easier to just reinstall as reiser.
[04:27] <psusi> whyso: it isn't the default because it is newer
[04:27] <avagant> that's why i'm using gnome, i downloaded the iso and it just didn't do anything i wanted it to.
[04:28] <psusi> and yea, changing generally requires a backup/reformat/restore
[04:28] <efrun> avagant, it's not much better, but it is better.  Honestly, Suse with KDE was very quick... but it comes with its downs as well.
[04:28] <brandon> anyone worked with NAS's? I can mount it but only root as access to it, can't figure out how to make it available to other users
[04:28] <whyso> oh ok thanks, so you guys reccomend it over ext3?
[04:28] <avagant> I wanted to try suse, but i downloaded the iso wrong or something and couldn't get it to load.
[04:29] <avagant> Or maybe that was freebsd, at either rate I'm back on ubuntu.
[04:29] <funkja> Is there something similar to Mac's Garageband for linux? Or at least something that will let me play a midi keyboard?
[04:29] <psusi> brandon: when mounting windows shares the mount is restricted to be accessible to only one local user by default... the default user is root
[04:29] <efrun> if you do try Suse, make sure you get the Smart Package Manager.  Yast is horrible in 10.1
[04:29] <shriphani> funkja, audacity ?
[04:29] <psusi> brandon: so change the user= in the mount options to your account if that is what you want
[04:29] <tamacracker> Can someone please help me remount my secondary hard drive?
[04:29] <psusi> whyso: I run reiserfs
[04:29] <avagant> Well for now I'm not having any trouble with Ubuntu.
[04:30] <funkja> shriphani: that is what i was thinking too but I wasn't sure
[04:30] <avagant> efrun: I've reinstalled gnome so many times that it's all old hat to me now.
[04:30] <avagant> efrun: Or rather Ubuntu.
[04:30] <psusi> so anyone know how to reconfigure X to detect new hardware and regenerate /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:30] <shriphani> funkja, audacity is powerful
[04:30] <tamacracker> What's more stable than Ubuntu?
[04:30] <shriphani> tamacracker, huh ?
[04:31] <avagant> I can mount a drive, and check this and check that it sucks I had to learn this way but..
[04:31] <lansing> i need  assistance
[04:31] <avagant> I guess when you throw yourself into something.
[04:31] <grok> whatcha need lansing?
[04:31] <tamacracker> I'm findin that Ubuntu's becoming unstable... atleast with keepin the secondary hard drive mounted.
[04:31] <Flannel> psusi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:31] <raich> tamacracker: wjhy's that?
[04:31] <Flannel> tamacracker: is it in your fstab?
[04:31] <brandon> psusi: tried that and root only had access still, "mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/public /mnt/store2 -o rw,username=media,password=media,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755,user=media" (media is a local user and the user on the nas)
[04:32] <shriphani> brb
[04:32] <psusi> Flannel ahh, thanks... tried like every other X package but that one ;)
[04:32] <tamacracker> It just keeps randomly unmounting my drive for no reason
[04:32] <avagant> I just do simple mounts, I can't help you there. haha
[04:32] <raich> tamacracker: is it in fstab?
[04:32] <psusi> brandon is your user name "media" or "brandon" or something?
[04:32] <avagant> tamacracker: I hope I never have that problem myself, it took me long enough to learn HOW to mount.
[04:32] <brandon> media
[04:32] <psusi> hrm... that should do it
[04:33] <funkja> shriphani: Audicy does not support playing recording or editing midi files
[04:33] <tamacracker> raich how do i check to see if it's in fstab?
[04:33] <raich> cat /etc/fstab
[04:33] <brandon> psusi: drwxrwx--- 2 root  11578  0 2006-10-10 21:54 store2
[04:33] <raich> check if it's there
[04:33] <raich> you have to know the partition name
[04:33] <avagant> the original partion name?
[04:33] <tamacracker> /dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8
[04:34] <SkyMountaineer> how do it install kde in ubuntu ? i goto SPM and it  tells me i can not
[04:34] <avagant> like mine was /dev/hdb1 and it became /media/hdb1
[04:34] <tamacracker> raich: /dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8
[04:34] <avagant> What's the 3g stand for?
[04:34] <raich> tamacracker: there it is, you only have one harddrive mounted
[04:34] <r0nn> hi guys
[04:34] <gu014> does anyone have a up to date howto for configuring dvd decrypter?
[04:35] <tamacracker> raich
[04:35] <ifconfig> I'm using Samba, to share folders between Linux and Windows .. I've shared a folder in my linux box, and tried to access the folder, I've shared, It asked me a username/password, I've etnered it, and logged in find -- Is there a way to get the username/password dialog box again, after someone tries to access that particular folder in windows?
[04:35] <avagant> 3gb?
[04:35] <tamacracker> i have both mounted
[04:35] <raich> search the name of this second your trying to mount and write it in there
[04:35] <tamacracker> hdb1 and hda1
[04:35] <avagant> I sure hope my first one is mounted, haha.
[04:35] <raich> i only see one..
[04:35] <tamacracker> one hard drive is dedicated to my ubuntu which is ext3 partition
[04:35] <avagant> You guys are making me more confused than I already am.
[04:35] <avagant> Haha.
[04:35] <raich> hmm try writing it again, as root of course
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> what file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..
[04:35] <raich> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:36] <Flannel> raich: gksudo
[04:36] <avagant> what exactly does the mtab do?
[04:36] <avagant> !mtab
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> !more
[04:36] <raich> Flannel: prompt sudo is faster =)
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about more - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <Keaton> I've got a problem installing Kubuntu on this laptop of mine. It's a  Dell Latitude, Pentium II, and whenever I try to start the installation disk it gives me I/O errors when it trys to mount the filesystem.
[04:36] <tamacracker> raich ok what do i do now in this?
[04:36] <Flannel> raich: it's wrong though.
[04:36] <raich> Flannel: why?
[04:36] <Flannel> Keaton: did you burn it yourself?
[04:36] <raich> tamacracker: let me see
[04:36] <psusi> mtab is a file used by the mount program to keep track of what filesystems you currently have mounted
[04:37] <Flannel> raich: because it doesn't set up the environment correctly for graphical programs
[04:37] <avagant> Ahhhh.
[04:37] <tamacracker> what's the website i use in order to post up my information?
[04:37] <Flannel> !paste
[04:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:37] <raich> tamacracker: just follow the comments, above each column
[04:37] <Keaton> Flannel: yes, and I've used this copy a few times before. It's a little dusty, but it's scratch free.
[04:37] <funkja> Why do not all the screen resolutions that i have enabled in my xorg.conf show up in the Screen Resolution prefence window?
[04:37] <raich> Flannel: didn't know that, thanks
[04:38] <tamacracker> /dev/hda1     /media/illriginal     ntfs-3g     silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8,no_def_opts,allow_other
[04:38] <tamacracker> /dev/hdb1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:38] <Flannel> Keaton: if you've used it a few times, it probably isn't the disk then.  but, not scratches, burn speed.
[04:38] <O2> hello
[04:38] <tamacracker> /dev/hdb5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:38] <tamacracker> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> O2, ... there you are here again ...
[04:38] <tamacracker> that's what I have
[04:38] <O2> can anyone tell me why my realplayer plays rm file so slow?
[04:38] <Flannel> tamacracker: don't paste here.  that's what the pastebin is for
[04:38] <Keaton> Flannel: I thought that might be it. thanks.
[04:39] <avagant> The burnt discs don't last very long.
[04:39] <raich> tamacracker: you didn't say it already was in fstab
[04:39] <goodguy> Hi, Good night! I need to know how to use XGL (or the new technology for 3D eye candy) in Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI Card
[04:39] <avagant> I've had to burn 2 seperate ubuntu discs.
[04:39] <Flannel> goodguy: #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu+1
[04:39] <raich> you only copied the first line..
[04:39] <avagant> Then again I've reinstalled Ubuntu about 7 times.
[04:39] <tamacracker> :\ yeah that first line was the hard drive that's for my windows, which is Ubuntu's secondary drive.
[04:40] <tamacracker> my window's hard drive on ubuntu is for media purposes only because the windows drive is alot bigger
[04:40] <O2> wickedpuppy: yes, hi
[04:40] <Flannel> tamacracker: it's most likely a fault in ntfs-3g then.  Which is still experimental
[04:40] <avagant> what's the 3g stand for though?
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> O2, as for real player ... ask the real corp ... honestly i don't use it
[04:41] <fildo> google it
[04:41] <tamacracker> Flannel then what can I do so I don't bother with experimental crap
[04:41] <avagant> I haven't used real player in like....5 years.
[04:41] <Flannel> avagant: no idea.  They had a naming contest thing, I think.
[04:41] <O2> wickedpuppy:  there's one thing different, I am in real ubuntu system now, not through vmware
[04:41] <Flannel> tamacracker: there is no stable NTFS writing available at the moment.
[04:41] <wickedpuppy> O2, great!!!! started screwing it up yet ?
[04:41] <tamacracker> crap so it's just gonna keep going and coming
[04:41] <CaptainMorgan> what file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..
[04:41] <Mukunda> Hmm, so Hans got arrested, hmm.
[04:42] <tamacracker> it just started this week... and I don't know why it started up
[04:42] <O2> wickedpuppy:   no, but when I play avi video file, the default player says there's no decodec
[04:42] <Flannel> tamacracker: most likely, yes.  You could try updating your ntfs-3g (and submit a bug report to them too, they can't fix bugs they don't know about)
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> O2, get vlc player
[04:42] <avagant> So, I don't want to get rid of firefox, but i'm thinking of switching browsers here real soon.
[04:42] <tamacracker> Flannel how would I be able to update ntfs-3g?
[04:42] <wickedpuppy> !restricted
[04:42] <O2> wickedpuppy:  oh?
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:42] <grok> how hard would it be to switch from gnome to xfce. by that i mean removeing gnome plus most of the applications taht come with it. is there one action i could do to take care of it all?
[04:43] <avagant> remove purge gnome-deskto-environment?
[04:43] <wickedpuppy> O2, and look at ubotu links for more multimedia joy on ubuntu .... yes pls get vlc player its on synaptic if you got universe/multiverse
[04:43] <avagant> I don't think that'll get rid of everything though.
[04:43] <grok> avagant: how sure are you about that. no offense
[04:43] <Flannel> tamacracker: However you installed it, you'd download a new versoin, and install that.
[04:43] <avagant> grok: I'm not.
[04:43] <Flannel> tamacracker: ntfs-3g isn't provided by ubuntu, I have no idea.
[04:43] <grok> avagant: ok, thanks, i'll try it though
[04:44] <avagant> grok: It was just a suggestion, I haven't ever tried that myself, I've had a hard enough time getting gnome installed.
[04:44] <tamacracker> already then...
[04:44] <avagant> Or rather Ubuntu.
[04:44] <craigbass1976> Anyone installed ndiswrapper?  My card is supported, but to configure things I need to know where the driver is, and the ubuntu FAQ I'm reading doesn't say where it might be.  I'm assuming that since my card is supported that the driver is somewhere on my system
[04:44] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I would like to use apt-get  :-P
[04:44] <grok> avagant: alright, i'll look into it further, thank you
[04:44] <avagant> Your welcome I guess?
[04:44] <avagant> WHOOHOO! I helped my first person!
[04:44] <avagant> Hahah
[04:44] <tamacracker> How can I remount my drive
[04:44] <grok> lol
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> O2, then pls use ... no need to ask ... :P
[04:45] <kromel> lol
[04:45] <avagant> I need all the help I can get, I don't know how I'm offering advice.
[04:45] <craigbass1976> avagant, congrats.  Just be sure you don't become crotchety like people in some other linux chats.
[04:45] <tamacracker> nevermind
[04:45] <O2> wickedpuppy:  lol
[04:45] <tamacracker> im outs
[04:45] <avagant> craigbass1976: Hahah.
[04:45] <avagant> craigbass1976: Nah, I'm old but not crotchety.
[04:45] <lansing> ive downloaded java and it says cant open it
[04:46] <craigbass1976> avagant, Ok mr fancy pants, where's the driver (.inf) file for my broadcom wireless card?
[04:46] <wickedpuppy> how are you opening it ?
[04:46] <avagant> I...
[04:46] <avagant> I plead the fifth.
[04:46] <ifconfig> I'm using Samba, to share folders between Linux and Windows .. I've shared a folder in my linux box, and tried to access the folder, I've shared, It asked me a username/password, I've etnered it, and logged in find -- Is there a way to get the username/password dialog box again, after someone tries to access that particular folder in windows?
[04:46] <O2> wickedpuppy:  only download vlc ? what about other relatives?
[04:46] <avagant> That's a googlin' question I think.
[04:47] <craigbass1976> avagant, What?  What kind of tech support are you?!!! :)
[04:47] <avagant> So I'm still scared about alsa.
[04:47] <lansing> does anyone know a toll free number to a rep
[04:47] <wickedpuppy> O2, relatives ? you mean codecs ?? no need to worry about things .. just get .. and try to play .. if not we will see what codec you need ..
[04:47] <avagant> Haha craigbass1976.
[04:47] <O2> wickedpuppy: ok, thanks!
[04:47] <FearBSD> jordan: you still here?`
[04:48] <lansing> i need to talk to a person on the phone so they can help me step by step
[04:48] <Flannel> lansing: how did you download sun java?
[04:48] <avagant> My sound works absolutely fine right now, but I'm afraid if I DONT put an .asoundrc file or do anything it won't work.
[04:48] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I am using xchat, but find it not so friendly as mIRC in windows
[04:48] <waspius> hi...my computer lately is really going slow..can anyone help in what i can do?
[04:48] <sherirao> is ubuntu becoming famous bcoz it is doing free-ship ?
[04:48] <lansing> throu that site that ubotu told me
[04:48] <CaptainMorgan> what file is the command 'more' found in? Im using cygwin and I need to install it..
[04:48] <Flannel> sherirao: no
[04:48] <avagant> lansing: Did you try the ubuntuforums?
[04:48] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: you should ask in cygwin places.  I think it's in a base package though.
[04:48] <Flannel> lansing: so, the apt-get one?
[04:48] <wickedpuppy> O2, you are not used to it ... i found it first time i use xchat too ... its different looking but you will get used to it later
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> hey i downloaded a .sh file anyone knows how i can install it
[04:49] <sherirao> then what makes ubuntu different
[04:49] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I can't type wick and press TAB to auto-complete
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> it's crossover office
[04:49] <lansing> yes i dont under stand them iam new to ubuntu
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> O2, yes you can ...
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> its a *.sh, is there anyway to install it, through the console perhaps
[04:49] <avagant> lansing: You probably would be able to get like 90 percent of your answers from there.
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> (yes im n00b)
[04:49] <FearBSD> what's wrong when i get this error on booting the livecd: erro: can
[04:49] <Elephant> efrancolaporte:  Probably not.  I'd run it in the console by typing ./filename.sh
[04:49] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: you might also try less... see if that's installed
[04:49] <wickedpuppy> efrancolaporte, sh file.sh
[04:49] <O2> oh,,, yes I can now.  but couldn't yesterday!
[04:49] <FearBSD> can't access TTY; job control turned off?
[04:49] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, yes, less works
[04:49] <efrancolaporte> jill try both
[04:50] <Elephant> but make sure it has permissions to execute first
[04:50] <efrancolaporte> k ill try both
[04:50] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: so, just use that
[04:50] <lansing> i need to talk to a human voice to voice not by browser
[04:50] <Elephant> chmod u+x file.sh
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, so where is less installed ?
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> maybe I could throw more in ther etoo
[04:50] <Elephant> which less
[04:50] <Flannel> CaptainMorgan: /your-cygwin-path/bin/
[04:50] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, thanks
[04:50] <avagant> lansing: As far as java or flash goes go to the forum and look up "desktop customization guide" and the topics and ine one topic it'll tell you how to download flash and java.
[04:50] <avagant> lansing: And how to add repositories, get codecs and so on.
[04:51] <avagant> I wish I could say this because I was a pro at Ubuntu/Linux.
[04:51] <FearBSD> wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:51] <goodguy> Hi, Good night! I need to know how to use XGL (or the new technology for 3D eye candy) in Ubuntu 6.10 with ATI Card
[04:51] <avagant> Here lansing I'll link you to it.
[04:51] <fildo> isnt there something like easyubuntu ?
[04:52] <fildo> that u can use , to install flash / java and additional fonts ?
[04:52] <Flannel> goodguy: #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-xgl are the places to ask
[04:52] <efrancolaporte> the sh command worked
[04:52] <efrancolaporte> thank you :)
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> efrancolaporte, cause your file.sh isn't +x ... nvm whatever works :P
[04:52] <craigbass1976> How do I knwo if I'm using dapper or whatever
[04:52] <wickedpuppy> craigbass1976, cat /etc/issue
[04:52] <avagant> lansing: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[04:52] <Flannel> craigbass1976: lsb_release -a
[04:52] <fildo> craigbass1976: uname -ar in bash
[04:52] <fildo> or that
[04:53] <Flannel> fildo: uname won't give you that, just kernel version ;)
[04:53] <fildo> nice command Flannel
[04:53] <fildo> thnx for that
[04:53] <avagant> lansing: That one topic will show you how to get all the codecs to play mp3's ect, flash, java, microsoft truecore fonts and various other things.
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> fildo, i why uname -ar ? -a is all ...-r is kernel .. if you got -a there will also be kernel in it ..
[04:54] <Flannel> avagant: we prefer the wiki, which are all linked via ubotu factoids, they're generally more concise than the forums
[04:54] <fildo> wickedpuppy: just habbit from redhat
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> fildo, i see :P
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> fildo, you mean uname is different there ?
[04:54] <avagant> Flannel: Yah I know.
[04:54] <fildo> lsb_release -a < mental note
[04:54] <fildo> good command
[04:54] <avagant> Flannel: It was just the first thing that came to mind, I've done this so many times.
[04:55] <fildo> not really
[04:55] <slop> is there a way to change how long your computer stay's idle before the hard drives power down?
[04:55] <fildo> id probably look into acpi for that slop
[04:55] <FearBSD> are there any important changes in the file isolinux.cfg in edgy?
[04:56] <O2> wickedpuppy:  could I use ghost to backup my linux system installation?
[04:56] <craigbass1976> thanks wickedpuppy Flannel and fildo .  It seems I'm using dapper
[04:56] <slop> fildo, acpi?
[04:56] <Flannel> FearBSD: #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <shriphani> wee fluxbox rocks
[04:56] <avagant> craigbass1976: Welcome to our world!
[04:56] <fildo> shriphani: indeed
[04:56] <kromel> !fluxbox
[04:56] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> O2, norton ghost ? no idea if it could backup ext3 ... ask norton ?
[04:56] <avagant> I didn't like fluxbox, well I did but I would probably have to spend too much time trying to figure it out.
[04:57] <O2> wickedpuppy:  oh, so how could I recover my linux
[04:57] <avagant> I wanted to have transparent terminals just like everyone else :(
[04:57] <craigbass1976> Right.  I'm not so sure about the root and sudo though; I'm so used to Cent and Solaris.  I start things up in ubuntu and think I need the root pass, only to find that I need my regular user pass.  Weird
[04:57] <fildo> avagant: look in schema
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> O2, there are a lot of ways .. one is backup using dd .. another is putting /home and /etc in different partitions ... and so on and on
[04:57] <slop> fildo, what's acpi?
[04:57] <wickedpuppy> !acpi
[04:57] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[04:57] <Flannel> !backup
[04:57] <mankie> hello
[04:57] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[04:57] <mankie> hola
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> sweet
[04:58] <avagant> I'm afraid to mess around with anything else on my computer though.
[04:58] <slop> ah...thanks :)
[04:58] <Flannel> O2: thats for you
[04:58] <mankie> alguien sabe donde estoy
[04:58] <Flannel> !es
[04:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:58] <avagant> !fr
[04:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:58] <mankie> ahh, ok, thank you
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> thats not fr
[04:58] <fildo> stop flooding the bot
[04:58] <fildo> !
[04:58] <avagant> I know.
[04:58] <avagant> I just didn't know if there was one.
[04:58] <wickedpuppy> ...
[04:59] <mankie> sorry, anyone could explain me what it is
[04:59] <mankie> i'm new in ubuntu
[04:59] <lansing> is there ne way that some one can show me how to install these programs cus that forum thing dont tell me a dam thing
[04:59] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: it is.
[04:59] <mankie> it's my first day
[04:59] <fildo> mankie: congrats! n welcome
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, french ?
[04:59] <slop> wickedpuppy, acpi didn't do anything....it just went to a new prompt
[04:59] <lansing> its all jiberish to me
[04:59] <mankie> thank you
[04:59] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: yes
[04:59] <avagant> mankie: Don't do anything else until you read up on things.
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> slop, ask the guy who was helping ya before ?
[04:59] <shriphani> lansing, sudo aptitude install ......
[05:00] <mankie> i'm chatting in the server irc-hispano, i think
[05:00] <fildo> lol
[05:00] <fildo> nooo
[05:00] <slop> oh sorry lol
[05:00] <mankie> can i connect in this server from here?
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, you are a french in india ?
[05:00] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: I'm not in india, I'm in brazil.
[05:00] <slop> fildo, its cool...i'll ask in #lfd
[05:00] <slop> thanks for the pointer :)
[05:00] <fildo> lfd ?
[05:00] <lansing> like i said jiberish
[05:00] <fildo> linuxfordummies!
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, i see ... your domain is .in ...
[05:00] <mankie> i'm trying new things here in my ubuntu
[05:00] <avagant> That's what I need.
[05:01] <mankie> i think that it's good
[05:01] <lansing> yah fildo thats about it
[05:01] <mankie> interesting
[05:01] <mankie> i have a lot of things here
[05:01] <mankie> i don't need windows
[05:01] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: yep, that's a 'pun'. Jardin means garden in french.
[05:01] <O2> wickedpuppy:   do you know about problems of unicode languages?
[05:01] <mankie> the video, sound, internet, chat
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, je sais un peu francis ... mais .in = india domin ...
[05:02] <avagant> I have a question, has anyone successfully gotten lastfm to work with alsa?
[05:02] <wickedpuppy> O2, eh ah .. you shouldn't have it on ubuntu ..
[05:02] <shriphani> down wi windblows Ex- Pee
[05:02] <tahorg> wickedpuppy: yes, I know, but it's just a tld. Anyone can buy a .in
[05:03] <wickedpuppy> tahorg, but .in can't be sold well .. i got linuxworld.in or something like that when .in opened up last year .. well its off-topic ... thanks for explaining dude
[05:03] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I have a DVD with some directories name in Chinese, and they're displayed as all "??????"
[05:04] <lansing> this is the error that come up wen i open java Could not open "sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb"
[05:04] <lansing> Archive type not supported.
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> O2, cause you don't have chinese language installed ?
[05:04] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I can view and input chinese.
[05:04] <avagant> lansing: Did you put dpkg -i in front of that?
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> no idea .. i am in singapore ... 80% chinese here ...
[05:04] <shriphani> lansing, dpkg -i package.deb
[05:04] <tahorg> littlerxa: nobody cares. You can drink as much as you want, we don't care.
[05:05] <littlerxa> jajaja I'm singing :P
[05:05] <avagant> also make sure you cd to the correct directory.
[05:05] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm... does anybody have any experience configuring the graphical aspects of grub? You see, there is a white frame around the menu entries I'd like to get rid of since it ruins the impression of my splashimage...
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> O2, maybe its not chinese .. chinese itself has a lot of dialects ..
[05:05] <O2> wickedpuppy: I have installed chinese support
[05:05] <littlerxa> nobody cares what u don't listen music xDDD
[05:05] <lansing> no i installed it from the ubuntu forum thingy
[05:05] <avagant> Hmm.
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> O2, ask in hongkong whats chinese and they will tell you its cantonese ... taiwan another ... mainland china another ..
[05:06] <fildo> !java
[05:06] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:06] <shriphani> lansing, cd to the dir where you have the deb....... udo dpkg -i<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:07] <Elephant> wahoo, SSH server is now installed :D
[05:07] <O2> wickedpuppy: only the cd-rom has the problem! other hard-drive partitions's chinese file name could display well.
[05:07] <Flannel> shriphani, lansing, no.  install it from the repositories, don't install it locally.
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> O2, there is #ubuntu-cn ... ask there ... i don't use any other language than english so can't help ya there
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> just say ni hao mah ?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> :P
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> you will be fine
[05:07] <O2> wickedpuppy:  OK, thanks all the same
[05:08] <shriphani> lansing, enable multiverse and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[05:08] <O2> wickedpuppy:  lol... you are Chinese?
[05:08] <wickedpuppy> O2, no prob .. i am burmese in singapore ... my girl is chinese though
[05:08] <avagant> Yah that's what I was going to suggested shriphani.
[05:09] <lansing> linux for DUMMIES thats me
[05:09] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to get optical-audio output working?
[05:09] <avagant> lansing: Don't worry we've all been there.
[05:09] <lansing> well thats me now
[05:10] <avagant> lansing: Did I mentioned I've reinstalled 6 times in the past 2 weeks?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> heh - You are doing better then average then...
[05:10] <lansing> yah me to ive switch op several times
[05:10] <avagant> Yah, me too.
[05:11] <avagant> Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Gentoo.
[05:11] <lansing> could ne one control my desktop and help me
[05:11] <fildo> kubuntu is da best
[05:11] <fildo> :p
[05:11] <raich> Xubuntu
[05:11] <Dr_willis> BubbaUbuntu
[05:11] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:12] <avagant> bless: Probably not.
[05:12] <bless> avagant, what can i do than?
[05:12] <avagant> I don't know usually if it doesn't work for me I just throw the disc back in.
[05:13] <avagant> I don't know if I'm downloading the iso wrong.
[05:13] <bless> how can u do that?
[05:13] <efrun> downloading an iso wrong?
[05:13] <avagant> Well not downloading it, but burning.
[05:13] <bless> no
[05:14] <bless> i update via apt-get
[05:14] <avagant> Hmm.
[05:14] <avagant> Connection died?
[05:14] <bless> no
[05:14] <bless> this step dont need conection
[05:15] <bless> and i am here lol
[05:15] <avagant> Honestly I don't know.
[05:15] <bless> ok , thanks than
[05:15] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:15] <Shadow_mil> Help... I have broken sudo!
[05:15] <lansing> avagant could u help me by remote connect
[05:15] <avagant> I don't know how to do that, and I don't think I can.
[05:15] <avagant> Sorry man :)
[05:15] <bless> noone can help me?
[05:16] <lansing> dam
[05:17] <pike_> Shadow_mil: ?
[05:17] <Elephant> LOL, I just discovered apt-get's Super Cow Powers
[05:17] <Shadow_mil> chuck@ubuntu:/usr$ sudo
[05:17] <Shadow_mil> sudo: must be setuid root
[05:18] <craigbass1976> Is there a log file that tells you about dchp requests you've made?
[05:18] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: is chuck in sudoers?
[05:18] <pike_> Shadow_mil: do you have a livecd or you can set an option at the grub boot to obtain a root shell
[05:18] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: yes
[05:18] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: type groups, admin?
[05:18] <Shadow_mil> pike_: I can get root shell
[05:18] <Shadow_mil> got one
[05:19] <sproingie> Elephant: now try aptitude moo
[05:19] <pike_> Shadow_mil: oh.  well im sleepy now bye
[05:19] <Elephant> I did
[05:19] <Shadow_mil> pike_: !!!!!!!!
[05:19] <Elephant> and then aptitude -v moo
[05:20] <Elephant> and now I think I'm going to cry
[05:20] <sproingie> Elephant: no easter eggs unless you count minesweeper
[05:20] <Elephant> I got to:  aptitude -vvvvvv moo
[05:20] <Elephant> :'(
[05:20] <shriphani> There are no Easter Eggs in this program.
[05:20] <shriphani> lol
[05:20] <Elephant> well
[05:20] <Elephant> aptitude -v moo
[05:20] <Elephant> then aptitude -vv moo
[05:21] <Elephant> and so on up to -vvvvvv
[05:22] <mikeo> anyone here have the ati hdtv wonder?
[05:22] <sproingie> i suppose it's not really an easter egg if it's in the menu
[05:22] <atarimaster> hell0
[05:23] <Shadow_mil> I think I have messed permissions in /usr
[05:23] <Shadow_mil> how can I fix them back?
[05:23] <Shadow_mil> messed up*
[05:23] <atarimaster> i have a little problem with one of my reposotories
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, you did chmod -R ?
[05:24] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: well I did   chown -R root /usr
[05:24] <atarimaster> could somebody please help  my
[05:24] <atarimaster> *me
[05:24] <Shadow_mil> now a bunch of things don't work
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, why ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
[05:25] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I want a good tool to do notes
[05:25] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: thought root should own them :)
[05:25] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: yep.  That's not surprising.
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> O2, notes .. like ? post-it ?
[05:25] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, well ... ah .... start crying ?
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> atarimaster: Use the source-o-matic
[05:25] <atarimaster> 99% [13 Sources gzip 0]  [Waiting for headers]  [Waiting for headers]                                             21.9kB/s 0s
[05:25] <atarimaster> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[05:25] <atarimaster> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources
[05:25] <atarimaster>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:25] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:25] <atarimaster> thats what i get when i run apt-get update
[05:26] <whyso> so, whats the beef on ext4
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > atarimaster
[05:26] <Shadow_mil> root@ubuntu:/usr# start crying
[05:26] <lansing> iam tryin to unpack java an it says archive is not supported
[05:26] <Shadow_mil> bash: start: command not found
[05:26] <Shadow_mil> didn't work
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[05:26] <O2> wickedpuppy:  I want to write dairy, and remember things
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> atarimaster: Did you make the mistake of running Automatix?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> lansing,  unpack?  if you are trying to isntall java - read the !java bot factoid
[05:26] <atarimaster> i don't think so
[05:26] <wickedpuppy> O2, you can write in any text editor and save it ...
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:26] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> atarimaster: You would know..
[05:27] <whyso> just use eclipse
[05:27] <atarimaster> no i didn't then
[05:27] <lansing> done that
[05:27] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:27] <atarimaster> yep eclipse is great
[05:27] <lansing> still dont kno
[05:27] <O2> wickedpuppy:  no, I want one that can save my things in one file, like a database
[05:28] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: surely their is some why to recover the old settings?
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> O2, ah .. there is of course mysql database ... or you want something like access then openoffice has database .. check out application->office
[05:28] <O2> wickedpuppy:  like a repository
[05:28] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, yes if they know their old settings .....
[05:29] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: I don't ...
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> O2, like a repository ? cvs ?
[05:29] <shuan> anyone know how i can watch dvd's on ubuntu
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, thats why .. i don't know a linux command that can redo whatever command did before
[05:29] <wickedpuppy> !dvd
[05:29] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:29] <O2> I mean, a profesisonal software that let you note things that you don't want to forget!
[05:30] <O2>  wickedpuppy: I mean, a profesisonal software that let you note things that you don't want to forget!
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> O2, really ... if i don't want to forget .. i write them down on a paper and keep it somewhere safe .. i don't trust computers for that kind of things ..
[05:30] <wickedpuppy> ok ok .. no idea
[05:30] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: well surely their is a way to find out... I mean... how many files could their be? and we already know what it needs to be for bin,sbin,games
[05:31] <Shadow_mil> that's like 1/2 of them right their
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> there is post-it notes .. there is mysql .. there is MS-access like database .... there is cvs/svn
[05:31] <avagant> Is anyone else having problems with Firefox right now?
[05:31] <avagant> I can't get it to load up pages. It shows that it IS loading up pages, but then it doesn't go to the page.
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, why are you assuming again ? the problem happened cause you assumed ...
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, i can't help ya there ... one thing you can do is install ubuntu on another com and install whatever you have here .. and compare the permissions and owner one by one
[05:32] <Shadow_mil> wickedpuppy: :\
[05:33] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, /usr is a pretty big one ... go look for yourself
[05:33] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: yeah, best to backup /home and anything else you've changed and reinstall.  And don't chown/chmod random things in the future
[05:33] <bless> avagant, not problem here
[05:33] <Shadow_mil> cdmod -R 777 /usr      that would fix my problems?
[05:33] <avagant> Hmm. Well, I don't know how to make all my plugins work for Opera or anything so I don't know if I should just wait it out.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Hmmm.. anytime i see chmod and 777 - i think ICK.
[05:34] <bless> maybe ur internet
[05:34] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: no.  That'll just make it worse.
[05:34] <avagant> Everything else works fine.
[05:34] <fildo> running dns ?
[05:34] <fildo> or bind9 ?
[05:34] <avagant> It's not like the internet just doesn't work.
[05:35] <bless> a ok
[05:35] <fildo> more then likely ur settings then
[05:35] <fildo> if ur net is up
[05:35] <avagant> Like if I do a google search and click on a link, it shows that it's going to the link...but then it stays on the google page.
[05:35] <lansing> i try to use the terminal and it says canot access archive : no such file or directory
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> Can't I just fix owner ship problems as they come up?
[05:36] <lansing> i do exactly wat the forum says
[05:36] <lansing> help plz
[05:36] <fildo> even if u restart firefox ?
[05:36] <fildo> just install opera :p
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> first one :)        chuck@ubuntu:~$ sudo
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> sudo: must be setuid root
[05:36] <Shadow_mil> :D
[05:37] <fildo> lansing: have u activated sudo yet
[05:37] <skroll> is there a way to register a new protocol address in nautilus/gnome to launch an app?
[05:37] <lansing> how
[05:37] <wickedpuppy> Shadow_mil, the problem with /usr is /usr/share , /usr/lib and /usr/include are very important dirs ...
[05:37] <avagant> Uh oh shadow.
[05:37] <fildo> !sudo
[05:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:37] <avagant> Shadow_mil: I had the same problem where I had changed ownership of usr/bin
[05:37] <mikeo> !hdtv
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <avagant> And couldn't access sudo.
[05:38] <dobbbob> when i install the smp 686 kernel i have TWO 686 kernels on my grub menu!! which one do i pick?
[05:38] <avagant> You have to get to the grub menu and change it back, but I can't remember how.
[05:38] <Shadow_mil> -R is a very bad switch :(
[05:38] <fildo> one should be recovery. the other should be the OS
[05:38] <SkyMountaineer> rm - r all the way
[05:38] <PerhapsToast> Wow, a lot of folks in here.
[05:38] <fildo> -rf is better
[05:38] <avagant> Yah same thing I did, Shadow.
[05:38] <lansing> hey fildo how do ido that
[05:39] <fildo> !sudo > lansing
[05:39] <Shadow_mil> avagant: no I did      chown -R root /usr
[05:39] <avagant> I learned how to -R and totally screwed everything up.
[05:39] <fildo> haha
[05:39] <wickedpuppy> avagant, he did it to /usr .. not just /usr/bin ...
[05:39] <avagant> Shadow, I'm telling you that's what I did.
[05:39] <lansing> ya
[05:39] <Dr34mC0d3r> when i ran ubuntu 5.04 - i could type "mail" and it would give me mail sent to my username. Now im on ubuntu 6.06(fresh install) and i type mail - it always says "No mail for chris" Any ideas???
[05:39] <fildo> recursive !
[05:39] <dobbbob> help please
[05:39] <avagant> !recursive
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recursive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <O2> wickedpuppy:  if another user to login ubuntu, will he see my document in the hard-drive?
[05:40] <SkyMountaineer> !rm - rf
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rm - rf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <avagant> That was a funny little period of time.
[05:40] <SkyMountaineer> !rm -rf
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rm -rf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <aztek> i know this is offtopic but a friend thought he'd be funny and rm -Rf a laptop i had running what he didnt realize was actually CD-bootable Slax
[05:40] <avagant> I almost cried.
[05:40] <fildo> O2:  yes, but perms fix that
[05:40] <Dr34mC0d3r> with message of "No mail for chris" - looks like mail is working - also /home/USER/maildir/new - does contain lots of mail..
[05:40] <dobbbob> does ubuntu even support smp
[05:41] <simon__> hey guy do u know a cool application for monitoring system
[05:41] <jared> top?
[05:41] <SkyMountaineer> top
[05:41] <avagant> So now the whole operating system Ubuntu is going to be named Jared?
[05:41] <Dr34mC0d3r> i like top
[05:41] <avagant> Man I can't get use to this.
[05:41] <Shadow_mil> please... I need this fixed without reinstall
[05:41] <jared> Shadow_mil: whats the problem?
[05:41] <avagant> Shadow can't sudo.
[05:41] <Shadow_mil> jared: owner ship in /usr got messed up
[05:42] <Flannel> jared: he chowned his /usr
[05:42] <Flannel> jared: so, update
[05:42] <jared> i dont want to use an unstable version
[05:42] <jared> Shadow_mil: hmm
[05:42] <jared> meh
[05:42] <avagant> Shadow get to the grub menu and chown root:root /usr
[05:42] <jared> yea
[05:42] <avagant> or something like that.
[05:42] <Shadow_mil> avagant: I am in root
[05:42] <jared> Shadow_mil: do you know the root password?
[05:42] <jared> oh
[05:42] <jared> ok
[05:42] <avagant> So you can get into sudo?
[05:42] <avagant> I'm so confused!
[05:42] <Shadow_mil> avagant: I enabled root user
[05:42] <Shadow_mil> long ago
[05:43] <aztek> so you're running as straight up root?
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> no
[05:43] <jared> Shadow_mil: sudo chown nick:nick /usr
[05:43] <yokobr> hi, i need to find libSDL-1.2.so.0,
[05:43] <dobbbob> when i install the smp 686 kernel i have TWO 686 kernels on my grub menu!! which one do i pick?
[05:43] <jared> Shadow_mil: what is your nick?
[05:43] <avagant> Shadow, it's better idea just to use another name instead of root all the time.
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> I still use sudo
[05:43] <avagant> Root = causes too much trouble.
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> *sigh*
[05:43] <Dr34mC0d3r> anyone help with a mail problem?
[05:43] <Shadow_mil> I run as chuck
[05:43] <Dr34mC0d3r> when i ran ubuntu 5.04 - i could type "mail" and it would give me mail sent to my username.   He accidentally chowned it.
[05:44] <avagant> I think Flannel was the one who helped me with that.
[05:44] <jared> chown what:what
[05:44] <Shadow_mil> jared: I want the correct permissions/owner ship
[05:44] <dobbbob> no im on the latest dapper
[05:44] <jared> what are the correct permissions?
[05:44] <Flannel> dobbbob: then all 686 kernels are SMP
[05:45] <Shadow_mil> jared: I have no idea, its a huge complex dir
[05:45] <aztek> default?
[05:45] <dobbbob> flannel after i use synaptics to install the 686 smp i have two kernels at my grun menu
[05:45] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:45] <jared> Shadow_mil: tell me the correct permissions, and i will tell you what to do
[05:45] <jared> oh
[05:45] <jared> meh
[05:45] <jared> h/o
[05:45] <lansing> hey avagant iam dumafied on this need help wit terminal thiny to install java and frostwire
[05:45] <hump> is there a command you can issue from the terminal to have like a notepad thing come up?
[05:45] <Flannel> hump: nano
[05:45] <hump> no no..
[05:45] <hump> with a gui.
[05:45] <Shadow_mil> muiltable ownership, some should be chuck, others should be the program that uses them
[05:45] <Flannel> hump: gedit
[05:45] <avagant> sudo apt-get install frostwire?
[05:45] <cafuego> hump: gedit or any other X based editor.
[05:46] <avagant> first check and see if it can find the package lansing.
[05:46] <avagant> sudo apt-cache search frostwire
[05:46] <Elephant> hump:  emacs?
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> any c compiler for C
[05:46] <avagant> And then if it finds it sudo apt-get install frostwire
[05:46] <SuperMiguel> Any C compiler for ubuntu?
[05:46] <Flannel> SuperMiguel: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:46] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: pm
[05:46] <avagant> Flannel: That comes with like 900 packages haha.
[05:47] <lansing> it cant
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> SuperMiguel: gcc
[05:47] <billfur> is there a program that will share files to itunes?
[05:47] <atarimaster> does anyone use gambas
[05:47] <Flannel> avagant: build-essential? comes with five.  And it's everything you need to compile.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> !itunes
[05:47] <avagant> Ok did you go to your sources list and uncomment everything.
[05:47] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[05:47] <avagant> lansing: Did you go to your sources list and uncomment the right things?
[05:47] <avagant> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <hump> admin@admin-desktop:/home$ gedit unrealircd.conf
[05:47] <hump> cannot open display: (null)
[05:48] <avagant> And uncomment the things that start with deb http:// (I think)
[05:48] <Shadow_mil> would dpkg know the correct ownerships?
[05:48] <Flannel> hump: You need to do it in a gnome-termnal, not a tty
[05:48] <lansing> dont know how to do anything on this op sys
[05:48] <avagant> lansing trust me I've been there.
[05:48] <hump> Flannel, command.. key shortcut?
[05:48] <Flannel> lansing: the wiki walks you through everything, step by step.
[05:48] <lansing> so ur talking jiberish to me
[05:48] <avagant> I started it up for the first time and had to reinstall in a day.
[05:48] <Flannel> hump: er... programs > accessories > terminal, or alt-f2 will bring up a run dialog
[05:49] <avagant> lansing go to the terminal.
[05:49] <lansing> ok
[05:49] <avagant> type in this exact thing.
[05:49] <Flannel> hump: of course, if you were to go through all that trouble, you might as well just go programs > accessories > text editor
[05:49] <lansing> ok
[05:49] <Flannel> hump: or, whereever it is.
[05:49] <avagant> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <Flannel> avagant: gksudo
[05:49] <avagant> Or that too.
[05:50] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: chmod 775 /usr
[05:50] <jbinder> no
[05:50] <avagant> It will give you a list of repositories.
[05:50] <bless> hi i update my ubuntu breezy to dapper , one hour ago the download finish and it still saying  "preconfiguring packs"  is normal that this "preconfiguring" take 1 hour?
[05:50] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: chmod 774 /usr
[05:50] <lansing> ok then wat
[05:50] <jbinder> &&
[05:50] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: got it?
[05:50] <jbinder> chmod 774 /usr
[05:50] <avagant> Are any of them uncommented as in without the ## beside them?
[05:50] <Shadow_mil> chmod -R 774 /usr   ?
[05:51] <jbinder> if chmod 774 /usr doesnt work, then try with -r
[05:51] <Flannel> bless: depending on your computer speed, sure.  Mine took a good few hours.
[05:51] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: if chmod 774 /usr doesnt work, then try with -r
[05:51] <avagant> basically look for things that have deb http or deb src beside them or
[05:51] <bless> flannel , more than 1 hour?
[05:52] <hump> what the heck
[05:52] <hump> i just chmodded a whole directory to 700
[05:52] <Flannel> bless: right.  Although, I didn't sit around, so I don't know how long it displayed 'preconfiguring' but, long upgrades aren't any cause of alarm
[05:52] <jbinder> so
[05:52] <hump> and it still says i dont have access
[05:52] <AB2> Hi people, can anyone recommend a good music utility for ubuntu? preferably one that can be apt-got?
[05:52] <jbinder> hump: eh
[05:52] <Flannel> hump: which directory?
[05:52] <jbinder> hump, is your username hump?
[05:52] <cge> AB2: What do you mean by music utility?
[05:52] <avagant> lansing you find those yet?
[05:52] <hump> chmod 700 Unreal3.2/* -R
[05:52] <hump> ??
[05:52] <AB2> Well, any fairly able music player.
[05:52] <lansing> umm
[05:52] <bless> ok Flannel  thanks man
[05:52] <Flannel> hump: who owns that?
[05:52] <cge> AB2: Rhythmbox is included
[05:53] <lansing> there ## beside a few of them
[05:53] <avagant> AB2: I use xmms it reminds me of Winamp.
[05:53] <AB2> is that typically used within an xserver?
[05:53] <hump> i chmodded as rot
[05:53] <spanglesontoast> erm what's the best ntfs driver that allows read/write and works without recompiling the kernel ?
[05:53] <cge> AB2: Yes
[05:53] <Flannel> hump: who owns it though?  since, 700 means onlythe owner can read
[05:53] <cge> AB2: Do you want one that isn't used in an xserver?
[05:53] <avagant> lansing: Only uncomment things that say deb http or deb src.
[05:53] <hump> whats the level so everyone can access?
[05:53] <jbinder> hump: try chmodding 770
[05:53] <AB2> I suppose xserver's better for now :)
[05:53] <avagant> Meaning erase the ##
[05:53] <lansing> ok how
[05:53] <Flannel> hump: 777 would be everyone full access
[05:54] <cge> hump: 1777
[05:54] <avagant> Don't erase the whole line, just erase the 2 ## at the beginning.
[05:54] <cge> :)
[05:54] <jbinder> hump: DONT DO 777
[05:54] <Flannel> spanglesontoast: you might try !fuse, no idea what requires recompiling
[05:54] <spanglesontoast> it does
[05:54] <jbinder> hump: 777 = ANYONE can get it
[05:54] <spanglesontoast> :|
[05:54] <lansing> ok ?
[05:54] <avagant> And only erase the ## in front of the things that either say deb http or deb src.
[05:54] <Shadow_mil> jbinder: now it says: chuck@ubuntu:~$ sudo
[05:54] <Shadow_mil> bash: sudo: command not found
[05:54] <jbinder> ..
[05:54] <jbinder> wtf
[05:55] <avagant> Ok, now save it if you are done.
[05:55] <jbinder> lol
[05:55] <jbinder> Shadow_mil: sudo su
[05:55] <cge> Shadow_mil: don't use sudo su
[05:55] <Shadow_mil> bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Permission denied
[05:55] <lansing> should i delete all the ## thingy
[05:55] <avagant> No not all of them.
[05:55] <cge> Shadow_mil: Use sudo -i
[05:56] <hump> WHAT THE HECK
[05:56] <hump> i just chmodded it to 777
[05:56] <hump> and still says premission denied
[05:56] <avagant> lansing: ONLY the ones with deb http or deb src in front of them.
[05:56] <Shadow_mil> bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Permission denied
[05:56] <avagant> you gotta go to grub, shadow.
[05:56] <Flannel> hump: you still haven't chmodded the directory, just the files in it, probably.
[05:56] <Shadow_mil> avagant: I can get root access if that's what you people want...
[05:56] <hump> dude
[05:56] <hump> chmod 777 Unreal3.2/* -R
[05:56] <hump> ?
[05:56] <cge> hump: yes, don't put the * there
[05:56] <ryan_> my add/remove applications menu has dissaperared any clue how to get it back
[05:56] <avagant> Shadow_mil: I'm just unclear of what the real problem is.
[05:57] <avagant> lansing: Did you only do the ones with deb http and deb src?
[05:57] <lansing> ok done i think
[05:57] <avagant> Ok now save and close.
[05:57] <Shadow_mil> avagant: permissions/ownership in /usr are completely fucked up
[05:57] <cge> Shadow_mil: what does ls -l /usr/sbin/sudo give you?
[05:57] <Flannel> hump: ls -l  what is Unreal3.2's permissions?
[05:57] <lansing> ok done
[05:57] <cge> Shadow_mil: err, bin, not sbin
[05:57] <avagant> Now do sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <hump> drwxrwxrwx 12 root  root     4096 Oct 10 23:13 Unreal3.2
[05:57] <avagant> or juust sudo apt-get update
[05:57] <Shadow_mil> ls: /usr/sbin/sudo: No such file or directory
[05:57] <avagant> And wait until it's done.
[05:58] <Shadow_mil> -rwxrwxr-- 1 root root 93844 2006-05-17 04:41 /usr/bin/sudo
[05:58] <lansing> ok
[05:58] <avagant> Is it done?
[05:58] <lansing> i waiting
[05:58] <avagant> Ok.
[05:58] <lansing> k it say done
[05:58] <avagant> Ok now do sudo apt-cache search frostwire
[05:59] <avagant> If there were ## in front of the right things you didn't have the repositories set up right.
[05:59] <avagant> Or even have them yet at all.
[05:59] <avagant> Well you had them, but no access to them.
[06:00] <lansing> it just came up as comand again it didnt do anything
[06:00] <avagant> ok, then you might not be able to get frostwire right off the bat.
[06:00] <avagant> Try the java thing again.
[06:00] <jbinder> everyone: /j -freenode #jbinder
[06:00] <avagant> You might have to find the deb and unpackage it...let me try real quick.
[06:00] <lansing> k wat do i type
[06:01] <avagant> Remember that forum thing I lead you to?
[06:01] <jbinder> is anyone having a problem that needs to be assisted with?
[06:01] <lansing> ya
[06:01] <avagant> lansing:  sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin
[06:02] <Byan> is there a program that I can use to keep stats of bandwidth usage, CPU load, ect.
[06:02] <Byan> ?
[06:02] <fildo> top
[06:02] <avagant> It should work if you uncommented everything right.
[06:02] <jbinder> Byan: yes
[06:03] <Byan> fildo: should've been more specific.. like.. log it and like.. cgi it
[06:03] <avagant> It took me THE LONGEST time to figure that out, lansing so trust me.
[06:03] <admin_> hi
[06:03] <jbinder> hi
[06:03] <Shadow_mil> I am going to make /home  into its own partition, then reinstall ubuntu
[06:03] <Shadow_mil> will it see /home ?
[06:03] <jbinder> admin_: are you the same admin from lilug?
[06:03] <unfknblvbl> !java
[06:03] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:03] <lansing> ok
[06:03] <avagant> Did it work?
[06:03] <jbinder> oh
[06:04] <jbinder> Byan: right click the ubuntu task bar, and press add to panel
[06:04] <lansing> i think so
[06:04] <sanmarcos> I have an extra ext3 hd. how can I mount it so that all users can rw
[06:04] <baconbacon> Shadow_mil: youre going to mount that partition as /home during install process and it's going to work
[06:04] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: yeah. you'll add it at the partitioner, without repartitioning it.  Er... I believe the liveCD can do that. No idea on specifics regarding it though, Alternate can though
[06:04] <avagant> Did it give you prompts to download it and such?
[06:04] <jbinder> Byan: then select system monitor
[06:04] <avagant> And accept a license yada yada?
[06:04] <jbinder> Byan: /j -freenode #jbinder
[06:04] <jbinder> its too talkativeful in here
[06:04] <Flannel> jbinder: #ubuntu-classroom is another one
[06:04] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: I use gparted
[06:04] <Byan> uh, the server is headless
[06:04] <lansing> it said it couldnt find it
[06:04] <jbinder> meh
[06:05] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: no, you'll be doing this during the install.
[06:05] <avagant> Are you serious? Haha
[06:05] <avagant> Oh man.
[06:05] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: can't I do it before the install?
[06:05] <avagant> Ok here....do you know how to copy and paste?
[06:05] <avagant> Not being offensive here.
[06:05] <lansing> yes
[06:05] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: how are you going to mount it as /home before the install?
[06:05] <avagant> !pastebin
[06:05] <ryan_> any clue how the get the the add/remove shortcut back to the applications menu
[06:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:05] <avagant> Go to that website and paste the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:05] <fuffalo> i've seen some howto's that tell me to install apache etc, and some that tell me it's not needed anymore by mythtv, which should i do?
[06:05] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: You'll repartition and copy everything, yes.  And then once you have a partition for your home, you'll mount it as home during the install process, without reformatting it.
[06:05] <avagant> don't forget to sudo gedit
[06:06] <Flannel> avagant: gksudo
[06:06] <baconbacon> Shadow_mil: you want to mount a partition to copy things before install?
[06:06] <avagant> Flannel: I knew you'd catch me.
[06:06] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: Im not, I am going to use gparted, move all my info in /home to a new partition, mount that partition as /home then install ubuntu on /
[06:06] <avagant> When you are finished post the link in here, I wanna see if you did it right.
[06:06] <lansing> umm durh
[06:06] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: no.  If you mount it as /home, when you install, your fstab is going to be overwritten.  You mount it as home DURING the installation.
[06:06] <avagant> I'm not being mean man, trust me I couldn't get sound to work at all and I've done about a billion things to screw my s ystem up.
[06:07] <baconbacon> Shadow_mil: move your info on your future /home, using whatever mount point, then during install you set it up as /home
[06:07] <lansing> no i mean iam durh
[06:07] <Shadow_mil> Flannel: so make a new partition, move my files to it, then during install assgine it as /home?
[06:07] <baconbacon> yes
[06:07] <Shadow_mil> ok bbl
[06:07] <Shadow_mil> sigh...
[06:07] <nino> #pomerode
[06:07] <Flannel> Shadow_mil: right
[06:08] <Flannel> fuffalo: the mythtv package doesn't seem to depend on apache
[06:08] <avagant> Take your time lansing just know that I've been there.
[06:08] <Byan> anyways..., I am gonna reask this and be more specific, is there a program that I can use to keep server stats like load and bandwidth and then show them on a website
[06:08] <Shadow_mil> good bye curl world!   wish me luck
[06:09] <Flannel> Byan: like webalizer?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Byan: Um, yes.  Now let's see if I can remember the name.
[06:09] <Shadow_mil> let me delete some large files I don't need first
[06:09] <jbinder> hi
[06:09] <lansing> umm avagent big prob
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Byan: Souns right ^^
[06:09] <avagant> Big solution, hopefully?
[06:09] <lansing> that gedit thingy
[06:09] <avagant> Ok.
[06:10] <RMorris84> Hello, i made a backup of my Home directory, and i just reformatted my drive and now i want to put that home directory back, do I just copy the contents back into the home folder?
[06:10] <lansing> its gone n i saved it
[06:10] <avagant> That's fine.
[06:10] <avagant> No worries.
[06:10] <Peumaman> Hey I was wondering how I could get a certain command to run every time I booted up.  Like i just want one line to run in a terminal, thats all
[06:10] <avagant> Hold on one second.
[06:10] <lansing> ok good
[06:10] <psusi> RMorris84 yea... I assume you tared it up? just untar it back into the proper place
[06:10] <avagant> lansing: So everything in /etc/apt/sources.list is completely gone?
[06:11] <yokobr> hi guys
[06:11] <lansing> yup
[06:11] <RMorris84> psusi: yeah i tarred it up, now will i have my firefox bookmarks back and such?
[06:11] <avagant> lansing: Go here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185758 and copy and paste this into your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> Peumaman: You can add it to the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh script, but I'm not sure if that's the proper way.
[06:11] <yokobr> my unreal 2004 wont run since ive uploaded....on ubuntu 64
[06:11] <psusi> RMorris84 I think those are stored in your home dir, so yes
[06:11] <yokobr> ./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:12] <avagant> What's inside the yellow box, copy and paste.
[06:12] <baconbacon> yokobr: sudo apt-get install sdl
[06:12] <host_> anyone know if there is a way to tell if I'm connecting using ndiswrapper, or if I'm connecting using the old means that ubuntu connected before?
[06:12] <yokobr> still installed
[06:12] <avagant> It's all set up you don't have to uncomment everything.
[06:12] <host_> if I load ndiswrapper does it automatically use that?
[06:12] <avagant> Then save that, exit and run sudo apt-get update.
[06:13] <yokobr> sdl is still installed
[06:13] <yokobr> is not that
[06:13] <lansing> k how do i open the source thing
[06:13] <DaveyJ> quick quesiton.. whats the KDE equivelant to gnome's "sessions"
[06:13] <baconbacon> did you go from 32 to 64
[06:13] <avagant> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <yokobr> nope
[06:13] <avagant> or gksudo
[06:13] <DaveyJ> i want to change somethin gi added when i was using gnome in my auto-startup
[06:13] <yokobr> ubuntu 64 bit edition
[06:13] <avagant> Beat Flannel to it.
[06:13] <baconbacon> yokobr: ok so it worked on 64 bit before..
[06:14] <yokobr> it runs ok, if i dont update unreal patch
[06:14] <samuel> I have an 11 gig ubuntu partition, also I have 28 gig free space how do i add the free space to ubuntu part/ so I can have a bigger ubuntu partition?
[06:14] <avagant> paste it all into your sources.list don't touch anything save and exit.
[06:15] <lansing> nvm its all here
[06:15] <yokobr> but the game have much bugs, on normal version....i had to update...but now it asks for sudo libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:15] <avagant> Well, in your case I would most definitley just copy and paste because I don't know if you did it right.
[06:15] <gss6> any idea when 6.10 is commin?
[06:15] <lansing> ok
[06:15] <baconbacon> !schedule
[06:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:15] <samuel> I have an 11 gig ubuntu partition, also I have 28 gig free space how do i add the free space to ubuntu part/ so I can have a bigger ubuntu partition?
[06:16] <DaveyJ> anyone?
[06:16] <avagant> Basically lansing what happens is when you run apt-get whatever it looks for the website to get the repositories from.
[06:16] <avagant> By uncommenting the deb http and deb src it can draw packages from there.
[06:16] <avagant> Basically it skips anything with a ## in front of it.
[06:16] <samuel> Can anyone help? am frustrated
[06:16] <avagant> What I think is happening is you don't have the commented, therefore you can't get packages.
[06:16] <lansing> ok
[06:16] <samuel> please~~~
[06:16] <lansing> saved
[06:17] <avagant> Ok now run sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <avagant> and try the java thing again. I swear it works because i just did it like 3 hours ago.
[06:17] <avagant> I just had to fresh install everything.
[06:17] <psusi> samuel: boot from the livecd and use gparted to resize the partition
[06:17] <samuel> will it have to install everything again?
[06:17] <psusi> samuel: if it works?  no.
[06:18] <yokobr> baconbacon, ideas?
[06:18] <gss6> haha and i just ordered CD's from shipit, lol
[06:18] <samuel> thanks
[06:18] <psusi> samuel: but if you have any important data, you should always have a backup
[06:18] <baconbacon> I don't know
[06:18] <samuel> thanks mate
[06:18] <yokobr> i was thinking..maybe some link
[06:18] <samuel> Is ubuntu a business for profit or a community geek thing?
[06:18] <avagant> I know I"m probably the last person to dish out advice on anything but...
[06:18] <yokobr> ls -l
[06:18] <psusi> samuel: both
[06:18] <yokobr> from lib 32 to 64
[06:18] <psusi> well, actually, the corporation is a not for profit
[06:19] <samuel> sweet
[06:19] <johnnyg> I've installed w32codecs in ubuntu and my videos all play back with a blue hue. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the codecs with no luck. How can i fix this? Is there a "good" place to get them from?
[06:19] <avagant> blue hue?
[06:19] <avagant> Did it happen before you installed the codecs?
[06:19] <lansing> k done
[06:19] <gss6> i just use automatix
[06:19] <avagant> Ok do the java package again.
[06:19] <lansing> ??
[06:19] <johnnyg> avagant: before I installed the codecs I couldn't play videos of certain formats.
[06:19] <yokobr> how can i install automatix
[06:19] <yokobr> ?
[06:20] <avagant> sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin
[06:20] <yokobr> :)
[06:20] <avagant> lansing
[06:20] <avagant> johnnyg: but i mean was the blue hue there?
[06:20] <johnnyg> avagant: no
[06:20] <avagant> well i guess you wouldn't know.
[06:20] <gss6> www.getautomatix.com
[06:20] <avagant> johnnyg did you get the source from the forums?
[06:20] <w30> samuel, just use gparted to make an ext3 partition out of the free space and then edit fstab to mount that partition where you want it. Like home. I myself have a partition called myshit that I sticke every yhing I have that is not operating system special in.
[06:21] <avagant> I got everything I have from ubuntuforums.org since i'm pretty lame and n00b at the same time.
[06:21] <jbinder> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
[06:21] <jbinder> gasp
[06:21] <jbinder> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check.
[06:21] <jbinder> :\
[06:21] <jbinder> meh
[06:21] <Madpilot> yokobr, best advice about automatix: avoid it, least it break your Ubuntu.
[06:21] <johnnyg> avagant: I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[06:21] <avagant> ahhhh i don't know if they are the same as the ones I followed.
[06:21] <adub> does anyone know if there is a new mad wifi driver
[06:21] <avagant> i think i use wget or something to get the ones i have.
[06:22] <avagant> "used"
[06:22] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working,
[06:22] <adub> i mean my connection is ok but sluggish not as stable as the windows connection
[06:23] <lansing> k installin
[06:23] <DaveyJ> i want to change something i added when i was using gnome in my auto-startup in Settings -> Session.. i switched over to KDE.. how do i access that original startup script?
[06:23] <avagant> Sweet lansing
[06:23] <gss6> is there an easy way to get SMP working?
[06:23] <lansing> ya no kiddin
[06:23] <avagant> johnnyg: I went here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[06:23] <avagant> Once that's done I have one more thing for you to do. Haha
[06:24] <lansing> ok
[06:24] <avagant> Is it done?
[06:24] <johnnyg> avagant: sweet, thank you - trying ti now
[06:24] <lansing> not yet
[06:24] <avagant> Ok when it's done let me know.
[06:24] <lansing> k i will
[06:25] <gss6> is there a known issue with firefox <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:25] <adub> how can i find out what drivers my network card is using
[06:26] <lansing> done
[06:26] <BHSPitLappy> I've got a problem
[06:26] <avagant> Ok now type this in
[06:26] <avagant> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:26] <BHSPitLappy> I just got home from work, opened this laptop, and it's burning hot
[06:26] <avagant> and it'll give you options with numbers in front of them.
[06:26] <nicholaspaul> Q: I know i hasve this thing installed - but whats the easy way to install tarballs?
[06:26] <avagant> pick the one that has anything that says java 1.5
[06:26] <BHSPitLappy> this isn't just a one-time thing, either... it's always burning upon return
[06:27] <BHSPitLappy> and this isn't hardware-related, it's OS related
[06:27] <lansing> k then wat
[06:27] <avagant> Then select the number and hit enter.
[06:27] <lansing> ok
[06:27] <avagant> so if java 1.5 is on 2 select 2.
[06:27] <avagant> Ok?
[06:27] <avagant> You officially have java now.
[06:27] <adub> is it ok to install debs
[06:27] <adub> lol im soooo rusty its been a long time
[06:27] <k0rd> so i finally have ubuntu dual-booted
[06:28] <lansing> ok
[06:28] <k0rd> took me forever, but I got it
[06:28] <lansing> kool
[06:28] <avagant> Do you have flash yet?
[06:28] <k0rd> me?
[06:28] <lansing> macromedia
[06:28] <avagant> Well I guess you wouldn't, lansing.
[06:28] <avagant> Yes but do you have the nonfree one?
[06:28] <nicholaspaul> Whats the name of that program that helps install tarballs, the easy way?
[06:28] <lansing> umm dono
[06:28] <avagant> You might not.
[06:28] <avagant> Type this in to terminal
[06:29] <avagant> sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:29] <avagant> Maybe I do have hope of becoming a teacher someday.
[06:29] <avagant> :)
[06:30] <lansing> nope
[06:30] <TigerWolf> cant seem to find anyone to help me - ITS GETTING REALLY ANNOYING! - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1602933
[06:30] <dobbbob> i added the clock frequency to my top menu bar and when i left click on it my system hangs for about 30 seconds. i can right click on it though
[06:30] <k0rd> what do you type after that?
[06:30] <avagant> Nope, lansing?
[06:30] <avagant> you don't have it, or nope nothing?
[06:31] <k0rd> i dont have it, it just brought up something about unpacking after OB?
[06:31] <lansing> nvm got it
[06:31] <w30>  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1602933
[06:31] <avagant> Ok did it install?
[06:31] <VR^> hi all, which java do i need for azureus, and which for firefox?
[06:31] <k0rd> no it said it did not install
[06:31] <avagant> 1.5
[06:31] <lansing> installin now
[06:31] <neil_d> I am thinking of developing a GUI , not a very complex one but not that simple ether, what language do you recommend, C, perl, ruby etc.
[06:32] <avagant> k0rd, did you uncomment the sources.list?
[06:32] <SuperMiguel> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! there is any way to fix that
[06:32] <k0rd> nope :\
[06:32] <k0rd> how do I do that?
[06:32] <avagant> ok haha.
[06:32] <avagant> startin' all over!
[06:32] <lansing> k done
[06:32] <avagant> ok now type this lansing
[06:32] <avagant> sudo update-flashplugin
[06:32] <avagant> And you should have flash AND java.
[06:32] <nicholaspaul> Can someone help me with Tarballs?
[06:33] <VR^> is "sun-java5-bin" for azureus, and " sun-java5-plugin" for ff?
[06:33] <avagant> And you can webbrowse to your little hearts desire.
[06:33] <lansing> done
[06:33] <SuperMiguel> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:33] <avagant> k0rd what version of ubuntu are you on?
[06:33] <gss6> is there a known issue with firefox <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:33] <k0rd> 6.0.6
[06:33] <avagant> lansing: I don't know if they offer frostwire in the repositories.
[06:34] <avagant> k0rd: But I mean kubuntu, ubuntu?
[06:34] <k0rd> ubuntu
[06:34] <lansing> ok wat about lime
[06:34] <avagant> Ok.
[06:34] <lansing> ive got lime to
[06:34] <avagant> I haven't tried that one yet....I use Nicotine which is linux's version of Soulseek.
[06:34] <avagant> k0rd type in your terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <johnnyg> avagant: that worked, thanks much :)
[06:35] <avagant> lansing: I always end up somehow getting spam and viruses from frostwire and limewire, so I try to avoid it.
[06:35] <k0rd> ok
[06:35] <Bathmonster> i am looking for a mp3/movie player whats out there to use ?
[06:35] <avagant> Hey look at me! I'm a teacher of some sort!
[06:35] <avagant> k0rd now....you see how everything has ## in front of it?
[06:35] <lansing> ok wat  about azurz thingy
[06:35] <k0rd> yeah
[06:36] <avagant> I would do a search lansing sudo apt-cache search limewire
[06:36] <uNfOrGiViNg> where I get edgy?
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> Can someone tell me why ./configure doesnt work? I installed build-essential
[06:36] <SuperMiguel> sudo apt-cache search Qt
[06:36] <avagant> well take the ## away only from the things that say deb http and deb src
[06:36] <k0rd> then?
[06:36] <avagant> nicholaspaul is there a configure file IN the package? I don't know if that matters or not.
[06:36] <k0rd> save?
[06:36] <avagant> k0rd save and exit that.
[06:37] <avagant> Yes.
[06:37] <avagant> go back to terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[06:37] <k0rd> k
[06:37] <SomeoneElse> it there a command from ubuntu command line to get the amount of ram and the prosesser speed and type?
[06:37] <k0rd> 41%
[06:37] <avagant> uname -r i think?
[06:37] <avagant> SomeoneElse?
[06:37] <avagant> Or maybe not.
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> avagant i dont see one.
[06:37] <foo> I changed the hostname on my laptop .. and I didn't change the hostname in vim /etc/hosts.. so <IP_ADDRESS> oldhostname still exists.. whenever I do sudo, it says, "sudo: unable to lookup newhostname via gethostbyname()" - any ideas?
[06:37] <avagant> I don't know if that matters or not, nicholas.
[06:38] <k0rd> ok, now what avagant?
[06:38] <lansing> avagant
[06:38] <avagant> I just know I've always had trouble if there isn't one.
[06:38] <avagant> lansing?
[06:38] <avagant> k0rd you looking for what now?
[06:38] <lansing> ive tryed searchin nuttin  comes up
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> avagant: oh i see. Thx for the tip
[06:38] <mnepton> SomeoneElse: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:38] <k0rd> flash & Java I guess
[06:38] <avagant> ok haha.
[06:38] <k0rd> lol
[06:38] <lansing> just comes back to comand
[06:38] <SomeoneElse> thz guys
[06:38] <mnepton> SomeoneElse: cat /proc/meminfo
[06:39] <lansing> ive got that azur program to
[06:39] <avagant> k0rd: type in this sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin
[06:39] <avagant> lansing: That probably means either you have to find the package and install it or....i don't know.
[06:39] <MaKaTiGuY> how can i mount my other partions drive in ubuntu?
[06:39] <SomeoneElse> sudo?
[06:39] <lansing> o ok
[06:39] <mnepton> lansing: what are you trying to do?
[06:39] <k0rd> umm it says 0 packages upgraded....etc.
[06:39] <dobbbob> where can i get the w32codecs for the 686smp kernel? i only see a 386 pack
[06:39] <avagant> Did it download anything?
[06:40] <VR^> avagant: what's the sun-java5-bin for exactly? how is it different from sun-java5-jre?
[06:40] <lansing> install a music downloader
[06:40] <k0rd> just a list of a bunch of upgrades I guess
[06:40] <lansing> y
[06:40] <avagant> Hmmm.
[06:40] <k0rd> it couldn't find those packages
[06:40] <k0rd> it says
[06:40] <avagant> oh snap you might not have uncommented right?
[06:40] <mnepton> lansing: lots of apps do p2p. is it a torrent client you're after?
[06:40] <lansing> no
[06:40] <k0rd> maybe? idk
[06:40] <k0rd> first time doing all of this
[06:40] <avagant> k0rd: Go her.e
[06:40] <SomeoneElse> thx mngrif
[06:40] <lansing> iam after azureus
[06:40] <SomeoneElse> thx mnepton
[06:40] <mnepton> lansing: then what? gnutella?
[06:40] <SomeoneElse> **
[06:41] <avagant> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[06:41] <avagant> Follow that word for word, you'll get everything you need.
[06:41] <mnepton> lansing: azureus is a bit torrent client. it requires Java, Java GNOME bindings, and other things.
[06:41] <avagant> I need to go real quick. Haha
[06:41] <lansing> o
[06:41] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working,
[06:41] <lansing> i need a p2p thing like lime wire or other
[06:41] <mnepton> lansing: enable the universe and multiverse repos and install Azureus that way. or, go the easy route and use BitTornado,
[06:42] <mnepton> lansing: for Gnutella (Limewire) use GTK-Gnutella
[06:42] <mnepton> lansing: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui gtk-gnutella
[06:43] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:43] <mnepton> done.
[06:43] <VR^> can *anyone* answer this for me please > which package do i need to install to run azureus: sun-java5-bin, OR sun-java5-jre? and, is sun-java5-plugin the plug-in for ff?
[06:43] <mnepton> VR^: you need to install Azureus.
[06:43] <VR^> mnepton: i know that
[06:43] <VR^> mnepton: i'm asking about JAVA
[06:43] <mnepton> VR^: it's in either multiverse or universe
[06:43] <eracc> Hrm, no "Seen" plugin for ubotu. :-p
[06:43] <mnepton> VR^: well, if you install Azureus, Java is a depnedency, huh?
[06:43] <VR^> mnepton: no, i don't want to apt-get it. it installs the whole damn mozilla suite
[06:44] <lansing> avagant
[06:44] <mnepton> VR^: i use BitTornado+Torrentflux *because* i don;t want to mess with all the Java dependencies for Azureus.
[06:44] <avagant> lansing: ?
[06:44] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:45] <avagant> k0rd: You still here?
[06:45] <VR^> mnepton: okay, good. can you answer the other part? is sun-java5-plugin for firefox?
[06:45] <mnepton> VR^: it is
[06:45] <avagant> k0rd: Better yet, I'm sorry go here.
[06:45] <VR^> ok
[06:45] <lansing> i wanna install azureus but i dont know if itll download music
[06:46] <avagant> lansing: Why wouldn't it?
[06:46] <mnepton> VR^: try BitTornado before you mess with Azureus. it's dead simple to install.
[06:46] <VR^> lansing: azureus is just a torrent client.
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> lansing, thats a stupid question ... pardon me ...
[06:46] <avagant> mnepton: Doesn't ubuntu come with bittorrent anyways?
[06:46] <lansing> ok wat do i type cus i got it already
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> lansing, the question is can you find mp3 torrents
[06:46] <VR^> mnepton: yeah, it's just that i like azureus a lot. it's very feature-rich
[06:46] <lansing> dono
[06:46] <avagant> did i scare k0rd off?
[06:46] <mnepton> avagant: it does, but Tornado's feature set is a bit better than the mainline client
[06:47] <VR^> gnome-bittorrent is too simple
[06:47] <avagant> mnepton: I never really use bittorrent, only but like twice.
[06:47] <mnepton> VR^: how's your httpd-fu? ever run apache+php?
[06:47] <VR^> mnepton: no, i've never done that
[06:47] <mnepton> avagant: been doing more of it setting up seeds for Edgy from this office.
[06:47] <lansing> all i want is a program that will download music
[06:47] <avagant> mnepton: I'm always scared with bittorrent I'm gonna hit some kinda virus.
[06:47] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:47] <VR^> mnepton: actually yeah, i have run apache+mysql+php
[06:47] <mnepton> VR^: ah, because Torrentflux made me forget all about Azureus. :)
[06:48] <avagant> mnepton: I've been looking for a certain iso of a certain os....
[06:48] <VR^> mnepton: does torrentflux allow you to pick individual files from a torrent and download only those that you want?
[06:48] <avagant> k0rd: Earth to you? Haha
[06:48] <mnepton> VR^: have a look at Torrentflux. if Apache and modphp are no big deal for you, Flux will rock your world.
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> lansing, if you can't find mp3 torrent .. really .. i don't know what to say ...
[06:48] <mnepton> VR^: it does.
[06:48] <avagant> wickedpuppy: I couldn't find anything I liked through bittorrent or the sites.
[06:49] <VR^> mnepton: so, you need apache+php to use torrentflux, yes?
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> avagant, what is it that you like may i ask ?
[06:49] <snoops> VR^ it uses bittornado as the backend..
[06:49] <VR^> i see
[06:49] <avagant> I like alot of hardcore and metal.
[06:49] <k0rd> wtf u cant play .mp3 on Rhythmbox?
[06:49] <mnepton> VR^: yup, Flux is nothing but a PHP-ified front end to BitTornado.
[06:49] <avagant> And videogame music?
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> avagant, name one pls ...
[06:49] <yokobr> guys , pleasee
[06:49] <snoops> VR^ it supplies bittornado with the project..so it's not a dependency..
[06:49] <VR^> well this looks a bit weird! a php client? @_@
[06:49] <gss6> lol, how hardcore?
[06:49] <avagant> Converge.
[06:49] <yokobr> I have had UT2004 running with debian amd64. It ran fine, sound and video. But when I upgraded to the latest linux version (ut2004) it stopped working, it asks for libSDL-1.2.so.0
[06:49] <fildo> torrentflux is mad
[06:49] <polx> hello
[06:49] <avagant> Norma Jean, The Chariot, Between the buried and me.
[06:49] <polx> im new to ubunt
[06:49] <polx> u
[06:50] <polx> and would like asistance
[06:50] <avagant> k0rd: You gotta get the right codecs first.
[06:50] <polx> can someone please assist me
[06:50] <VR^> i imagine it must be lightweight, or at least lighter than azureus
[06:50] <polx> ?
[06:50] <mnepton> VR^: but the cool thing is that then you can monitor torrents from anywhere. it's cool getting the latest Edgy torrents runing here at the office from my pyjamas at home ;)
[06:50] <VR^> sweet
[06:50] <lansing> would mp3 torrent 3 work
[06:50] <avagant> k0rd: It's a bit of work, but it's worth it.
[06:50] <gss6> BTBAM is pretty good
[06:50] <snoops> does it have a boss button mnepton?
[06:50] <VR^> mnepton: does it need mysql also?
[06:50] <gss6> ive heard alot about norma jean
[06:50] <avagant> gss6: The bass player ironically is from my home town.
[06:50] <wickedpuppy> avagant, can i private message you ? i don't want to post the link here
[06:50] <k0rd> avagant, did the link you give me have the codec for mp3?
[06:50] <mnepton> VR^: all the PHP does is control BitTornado, which is 100% Python. and Ubuntu loves Python.
[06:51] <avagant> Yes.
[06:51] <avagant> To both.
[06:51] <mnepton> VR^: no MySQL. just modphp.
[06:51] <gss6> lol, i've been listening to a static lullaby, its on the lighter side
[06:51] <mnepton> oh, wait...
[06:51] <VR^> mnepton: is there a howto someplace? just so i can try it out quickly.
[06:51] <polx> hi guys i am trying to install ubutun on my laptop which is paritionined with 3 NTFS and a hidden FAT32 by the distributor...for some reason when i try and install ubuntu through live cd it doesnt se it
[06:51] <polx> the installation does not see my paritions
[06:51] <avagant> I've been listening to The Bled and such.
[06:52] <polx> i have set aside 10 gig of unpartitioned space
[06:52] <polx> but it doesnt recognise it
[06:52] <psusi> polx: why the crap did the oem set up 3 ntfs partitions? that's bizare
[06:52] <mnepton> VR^: oh yeah, yo do need MySQL. sorry.
[06:52] <mnepton> *you
[06:52] <gss6> is there a howto on torrentflux?
[06:52] <polx> psusi: im not sure...
[06:52] <VR^> mkay
[06:52] <psusi> polx: what do you me by doesn't see it?  I can see why it can't install to it... there can only be 4 primary partitions, and it sounds like you have them all used
[06:52] <polx> i guess Benq got a kick out of it
[06:52] <VR^> that kinda makes sense
[06:52] <avagant> k0rd: On that page all those gstreamer things it asks you to put in, are the codecs to play mp3's./
[06:52] <VR^> gss6: yeah, thats what i'd like to know
[06:53] <avagant> You gotta install a bunch of gstreamer stuff to play mp3's.
[06:53] <polx> psui: well my c: patition is the primary partioion and my remianing two ntfs ones are logical and my hidden partiton in weisa32
[06:53] <avagant> gss6: Norma Jean WAS amazing.
[06:53] <ryan_> my add/remove applications program isnt in my applications menu any more.......how do i get it back
[06:53] <avagant> But only one the first disc they put out.
[06:53] <polx> mandriva 2006 detects/sees all my partitions
[06:53] <lansing> k ive got mp3 torrent but it came up wit an error sayin couldnt display '/home/user/desktop/mp3torrentsetup.exe
[06:53] <mnepton> there are forums on the official site. and the README and INSTALL files that came with it were good.
[06:54] <avagant> Ok, did you have firefox up when you installed the java plug?
[06:54] <RealFG> Hello all. What would you pick for a good RSS editor. (not reader)
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> lansing, ... torrents end with .torrent .. not .exe
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> :P
[06:54] <psusi> polx: if I were you, I'd format the drive and partition it sanely and install windows without all the adware the oem probably put in
[06:54] <VR^> mnepton: is it basically just dropping the files into /var/www ?
[06:54] <VR^> it looks that way
[06:54] <Borat> For everyone that uses torrents, just use wine and Utorrent
[06:54] <Borat> its so east
[06:54] <Borat> easy
[06:54] <lansing> ok do u have a website to were i can download one
[06:54] <mnepton> AHA!
[06:54] <mnepton> http://wiki.themixingbowl.org/HOWTO_TorrentFlux
[06:54] <avagant> lansing: Did you have firefox up when you installed the java and flash plugin?
[06:54] <VR^> no wine for me
[06:54] <cpk2> azureus is easy too...
[06:54] <Borat> sudo apt-get install wine, then downlaod utorrent, then wine utorrent.exe
[06:54] <Borat> easy
[06:54] <VR^> aha!
[06:54] <avagant> Borat: Wine was confusing and I couldn't get anything to work.
[06:54] <fildo> ktorrent!
[06:54] <lansing> wat u mean
[06:55] <psusi> azureus sucks donky dick.... bittornado for teh winz
[06:55] <gss6> utorrent kills my router lol
[06:55] <VR^> Borat: its nicer to run native stuff
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> lansing, ah i won't put the link here ... private message me or avagant ... he should know the site by now
[06:55] <ryan_> and its the fastest client in my openion (utorrent)
[06:55] <polx> psusi: i have reinstalled it a lot of times so it doesnt have the spyware
[06:55] <psusi> polx: partition it sanely before installing then ;)
[06:55] <avagant> Nicotine+ for the win.
[06:55] <VR^> mnepton: is that the guide you used?
[06:55] <Borat> avagant, its so easy to run wine, when you have it install like i said, all you neeed to do is click on the icon as if it was a normal program
[06:55] <polx> psusi: im just curious why i cant see my partitions with ubuntu, but i can see it with mandriva
[06:55] <avagant> Borat: I couldn't get aim or anything to work with Wine.
[06:56] <avagant> So Wine = lose for me.
[06:56] <Borat> im telling you just do what i said and there will be eternal happyness
[06:56] <psusi> polx: they might have set it up as a dynamic disk.... which I don't think linux understands
[06:56] <mnepton> VR^: i used the text files included with the Flux tarball.
[06:56] <Borat> avagant, thats why there is gaim
[06:56] <psusi> or at least not ubuntu...
[06:56] <mnepton> VR^: if you know LAMP, it's dead easy.
[06:56] <Borat> avagant, gaim owns aim
[06:56] <Borat> sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:56] <avagant> Although I want to play RO but can't. :(
[06:56] <VR^> mnepton: thanks for this. i already have LAMP installed
[06:56] <avagant> Borat: Gaim is so very ugly.
[06:56] <Borat> avagant, sudo apt-get install gaim-themes
[06:56] <psusi> polx: and can you be more specific about "doesn't see it"?
[06:56] <mnepton> VR^: seriously, you'll wonder why you ever bothered with Azureus :)
[06:56] <gss6> i just cant wait for edgy....xorg 7.1!
[06:56] <avagant> I wish ubuntu out of the box didn't look so ugly.
[06:56] <RealFG> I'm using Kopete and like it better than gaim.
[06:57] <VR^> mnepton: does flux also MAKE torrents?
[06:57] <Borat> avagant, it looks way better than aim, aim looks like sh1t
[06:57] <avagant> I'm gonna have to spend like 2 days configuring it to make it nice again.
[06:57] <ryan_> anyone know a virtual machine that will run xp in linux
[06:57] <avagant> I guess I'm old school.
[06:57] <avagant> WINE
[06:57] <MaKaTiGuY> guys how can i mount my other partition drive in ubuntu?
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> ryan_, that will be vmware ...
[06:57] <mnepton> VR^: never tried. i just use the included client in Ubuntu for that.
[06:57] <avagant> Aim is my number one.
[06:57] <gss6> vmware if you wanna be stupid
[06:57] <Borat> ryan_, use VMware or soemthing like that
[06:57] <VR^> mnepton: thanks, im gonna try this
[06:57] <RealFG> Any recomended RSS editing tools?
[06:57] <ryan_> wickepuppy thats what i thought
[06:57] <avagant> k0rd: If you are having trouble you can always IM me.
[06:57] <polx> psusi: what i mean...is that when you run the parition tools in the live cd or try to install it...it recognises my hard-drive as unpartitioned and asks me to partition it. Whereas with mandriva and FC intallation recognises my partitions
[06:58] <lansing> avagant could u private message me a website to get mp3 downloaders
[06:58] <gss6> gaim is pretty awesome
[06:58] <gss6> i use it when in on a windows box
[06:58] <Borat> lansing, use torrents
[06:58] <gss6> i like www.meebo.com
[06:58] <avagant> I'm always on aim usually when on Windows, but I think I've used gaim like twice since getting ubuntu.
[06:58] <gss6> i love the alias' on gaim
[06:58] <avagant> I do like their IRC clients on here, however mIRC will always be my baby.
[06:58] <Borat> i love gaim, especially the fact that it has aliases
[06:58] <Borat> and other features
[06:58] <psusi> polx: my only guess is that the drive is a dynamic disk, which I didn't think any linux distro supported, but maybe the others do....
[06:59] <gu014> i am trying to change the capture device in tvtime  in the config file is says /dev/video0 but when i load tvtime it goes to /dev/video1 and is giving me a blue screen? could anyone offer a suggestion?
[06:59] <Borat> Xirc works for me
[06:59] <BHSPitLappy> gaim ftw
[06:59] <polx> what do you mean by dynamic discs
[06:59] <Borat> hell yes
[06:59] <RealFG> ok later.
[06:59] <Borat> gu014, have you used mythTV?
[06:59] <avagant> lansing: Your best bet if you like things similar to Azarus is Nicotine which is alot like Soulseek.
[06:59] <psusi> polx: starting with win2k MS introduced a different method of partitioning disks that they call "dynamic disks"
[06:59] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, why the hell do you like mirc
[06:59] <avagant> BHSPitLappy: Because it's simple. I like things simple.
[06:59] <lansing> k where do i get it from
[06:59] <gu014> Borat: yes, but..i want to attempt this before i get into that
[07:00] <avagant> Do some googlin!
[07:00] <Borat> o
[07:00] <avagant> Haha lansing, there's a bunch of topics on the web. Hold on.
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, how is it more simple than xchat
[07:00] <lansing> k
[07:00] <avagant> BHSPitLappy: Xchat confuses me.
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> ??
[07:00] <gu014> Borat: mythtv can be run in a window mode right?
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> that's confusing in itself
[07:00] <Borat> gu014, have you searched the forums? there should be some info on that, its not my point of expertise, but google it.
[07:00] <polx> psusi: how do i know whether they are dynamic discs or not...i am using acrois' partitioning tool
[07:00] <gss6> so torrentflux doesnt take much system resources?
[07:00] <gss6> well, cpu
[07:00] <Borat> gu014, its not my point of expertise
[07:01] <psusi> polx: I'm not sure actually... and don't know what acrois is... what does fdisk say?
[07:01] <BHSPitLappy> Acronis
[07:01] <avagant> Well like I said I'm not computer wiz (Took me this long to get sound to work right had ubuntu for 2 weeks)
[07:01] <avagant> "no computer wiz"
[07:01] <host_> avagant, what about xchat confuses you?
[07:01] <avagant> Neither can I type anymore apparently.
[07:01] <lansing> pvm me  once u find it k
[07:01] <polx> psusi: says that my c: is primary and the rest are logical
[07:01] <Borat> Xchat is nice
[07:01] <psusi> polx: I mean in linux
[07:02] <psusi> polx: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[07:02] <host_> I like xchat
[07:02] <avagant> Well I'm use to being able to see who's in the room, and you have to open up all these windows PLUS I don't know perl and python and I like me some scripts.
[07:02] <mnepton> avagant: looks like you typed the words "any more" just fine :P
[07:02] <avagant> mnepton: It was a one in a million.
[07:02] <avagant> :)
[07:02] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, I have no idea what you're talking about
[07:02] <avagant> Dang it'd be nice if my firefox would work once and a while.
[07:02] <DHN_WP> Hi, I'm having booting the LiveCD (desktop i386 6.06.1) on my desktop and laptop, is it possible that they're not supported?
[07:02] <Borat> does anyone here know perl or python?
[07:03] <DHN_WP> *having trouble*
[07:03] <avagant> I had to pop open some window or something.
[07:03] <gss6> my buddy keeps trying to make me try suse
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> Borat, #perl or #python
[07:03] <mnepton> DHN_WP: did you run the CD verification check?
[07:03] <gss6> im bout to punch him in the face
[07:03] <avagant> gss6: I considered it myself.
[07:03] <kakalto> how can I uninstall one package and install another in the same command
[07:03] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, mIRC has multiple windows, not xchat... maybe you've confused them
[07:03] <kakalto> ?
[07:03] <host`> avagant, you can see who all is in the room
[07:03] <Borat> wickedpuppy: what do you use it for?
[07:03] <DHN_WP> mnepon: I tried, it just died when I tried running that.
[07:03] <avagant> I don't know I had trouble, I'm using Konversation and that's fine enough for me.
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> Borat, use what for ? perl or python ? scripting of course ... what else ?
[07:03] <host`> the userlist is slightly hidden at first though, you have to click on it and scroll it over a little to the left
[07:03] <avagant> Although the newest conversation is nowhere to be found.
[07:03] <mnepton> DHN_WP: md5sum the image, and if it's right, burn it again at no more than 4x speed
[07:03] <avagant> "Konversation"
[07:03] <polx> psusi: ill give it a go in the live cd terminal
[07:04] <gss6> and i tried mandriva, but the xgl support made windows look like a stability god
[07:04] <Borat> wickedpuppy: like what do you use scripting for? im new to this and im interested.
[07:04] <BHSPitLappy> avagant, http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1120/xchatkm8.png
[07:04] <avagant> mnepton: Maybe that's why every install disc I've burned hasn't worked right after the first time.
[07:04] <DHN_WP> mnepton: I did try md5sum, it's the right image.  I tried the image with VirtualPC, same result.
[07:04] <Geoffrey2> avagant, anything in particular about Firefox that doesn't work for you?
[07:04] <MaKaTiGu1> why is it that when i mount a drive , i get permission denied
[07:04] <mnepton> MaKaTiGu1: because you need sudo
[07:04] <BHSPitLappy> I can understand the firefox thing, firefox crashes for me AT LEAST once daily
[07:05] <avagant> Geoffrey2: Well say I click on a link.
[07:05] <gss6> firefox crashes like a mfer for me
[07:05] <MaKaTiGu1> mnepton: how do i do that
[07:05] <avagant> It shows that I'm going TO THE link in the status bar, but it stays on the original page I was on.
[07:05] <wickedpuppy> Borat, there are plenty of uses for scripts ... for example javascript is for web apps ... perl is used widely in bioinformatics .. it has very very good regular expression functions ... python is also used in web ... google use python
[07:05] <avagant> I have an internet connection obviously.
[07:05] <gss6> mine crashes clear out
[07:05] <mnepton> sudo mount -t type /source/device /mount/point
[07:05] <gansinho> what should I do if my bluetooth dongle is not in the "supported list" ? is there any way to make it work?
[07:05] <avagant> Mine actually works great with flash and everything else.
[07:05] <BHSPitLappy> ganadist, is it not working?
[07:05] <avagant> Just won't go to any pages I need to go to.
[07:06] <wickedpuppy> Borat, if you want to discuss about scripting .. pls private message me .. this is not a channel for it
[07:06] <avagant> I just want a script to show people what I'm playing in xmms. Haha.
[07:06] <kakalto> anyone?
[07:06] <DHN_WP> mnepton: With VirtualPC, it just dies when I try to test the CD for defects
[07:06] <Geoffrey2> hmm, interesting...I have no problems with Firefox at all, well, nothing stability related anyway
[07:06] <avagant> I can't find one anywhere.
[07:06] <mnepton> DHN_WP: re-burn the CD at a slow speed
[07:06] <avagant> Geoffrey2: I don't know if it's stability or what.
[07:06] <DHN_WP> mnepton: So I'm not sure if reburning it would help
[07:06] <gss6> well,i do use automatix
[07:06] <gss6> lol
[07:06] <polx> i am quite desperate to use ubuntu because it looks like only ditro that doesnt contain crap yet suit my laptop
[07:06] <avagant> mnepton: Is it normal for the livecd's to die after the first install?>
[07:07] <mnepton> avagant: nope
[07:07] <kakalto> when I apt-get -f install, it won't install because there's a package blocking. When I try to uninstall that package individually, it complains about the former - and unmet dependencies
[07:07] <DHN_WP> mnepton: Are you sure reburning it would help? I don't want to waste another CD.
[07:07] <BHSPitLappy> desparate to use, eh
[07:07] <BHSPitLappy> polx, what's stopping you
[07:07] <mnepton> DHN_WP: if the md5sum of the .iso is correct, the only two suspects are a bad burn, or seriously problematic hardware. one you can try to fix, one you cannot.
[07:07] <Borat> wickedpuppy: just was interested in the basics, thanks
[07:08] <wickedpuppy> Borat, ok .. you can start with bash
[07:08] <DHN_WP> mnepton: OK, I'll try that
[07:08] <polx> BHSPitLappy: well firstly i cant install ubuntu...and im currently writing my thesis and so i dont want screw around to much
[07:08] <lansing> any sugestions on programs
[07:08] <gss6> it could be crappy discs too
[07:08] <host`> programs for what lansing ?
[07:08] <Borat> wikedpuppy, do i have to register to the server to private message?
[07:08] <k0rd> woot!
[07:08] <k0rd> mp3 :-D
[07:08] <BHSPitLappy> polx, why can't you
[07:09] <lansing> mp3s
[07:09] <baconbacon> polx youre making a regular backup of your thesis stuff right? I always ask
[07:09] <k0rd> lol never thought i'd be happy about being able to play mp3's
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> exit light!
[07:09] <polx> just first quick question...
[07:09] <avagant> Cause the disc I have now won't last another install.
[07:09] <baconbacon> enter night?
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> :)
[07:09] <avagant> k0rd: Did you figure it out?
[07:09] <gss6> usbdrives are a god
[07:09] <polx> is there a terminal window in live cd?
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> polx, yes
[07:09] <host`> how do I change my administrator password?
[07:09] <avagant> If so then HURRAY
[07:09] <BHSPitLappy> host`, you shouldn't have one
[07:09] <snoops> yes polx
[07:09] <mnepton> host`: there is no root password on Ubuntu
[07:10] <host`> I've changed my root password, but apparently admin is different
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> umm
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> no
[07:10] <host`> yes
[07:10] <psusi> polx: in any linux distro you can always switch back to the old school text tty by hitting ctrl-alt-f1
[07:10] <polx> hmm cant seem to find it
[07:10] <BHSPitLappy> administrator is a windows thing
[07:10] <mnepton> host`: why would you do that?
[07:10] <host`> I know
[07:10] <avagant> I stil can't get to a website..haha
[07:10] <polx> ahh thank tou
[07:10] <polx> *you
[07:10] <lansing> darn
[07:10] <mnepton> host`: root has no password for a good reason. you shouldn't give that account a password.
[07:10] <avagant> Yah sorry lansing.
[07:10] <spanglesontoast> is there a proper way of installing cedega ?
[07:10] <lansing> np
[07:10] <avagant> Google Nicotine+
[07:10] <lansing> k
[07:10] <host`> when I open something like synaptic or any kind of administrative thing it asks for a password
[07:11] <gss6> i did just to quit sudo'ing all the time
[07:11] <avagant> It's pretty much alot like limewire and frostwire.
[07:11] <snoops> host` do you mean the prompt when you try to install something etc? Right that's your accounts password
[07:11] <mnepton> host`: right. *your* password.
[07:11] <host`> I just type in my users password, if I type in my roots password it doesn't let me in
[07:11] <psusi> host` it wants YOUR password
[07:11] <host`> that's the same password for sudo too
[07:11] <avagant> Be careful with root!
[07:11] <host`> right
[07:11] <Shoia1> now a day in free cd ship-it request which version ship-it
[07:11] <host`> I know to be careful with root
[07:11] <avagant> I know, it's a fair warning to everyone. (Experienced root/ubuntu breaker)
[07:12] <host`> that just doesn't seem to make sense, why would I need to type the same password I typed to log into gnone to install some stuff
[07:12] <gss6> i only do it so i dont have to type sudo this sudo that
[07:12] <mnepton> Shoia1: Ship-It is Dapper. there will be no Edgy via Ship-It.
[07:12] <polx> ok...i just did a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda ...and it shows that that hda 1 - hpfs/ntfs boot, hda2 extended, hda3-dell utility hda5 hpfs-ntfs hda6-hpfs
[07:12] <avagant> It could complicate things in the long run.
[07:12] <Shoia1> ok
[07:12] <Tru7h> gss6: If you don't like typing sudo, you'd better stick to Windows. ;)
[07:12] <psusi> host` because that is how sudo is configured by default... it wants you to confirm your password to make sure you didn't wander off and someone else came by before granting you root access
[07:12] <polx> does that look like i have dymanic discs?
[07:13] <mnepton> host`: your user is part of the small group of users that have the right to perform admin tasks. so, knowing that, Ubuntu just makes sure you are you.
[07:13] <host`> it's just a pain in the neck
[07:13] <avagant> And don't ever -R anything in /usr or /usr/bin either.
[07:13] <psusi> polx: nope... looks normal to me
[07:13] <lansing> hey avagant got ? can u pvm me
[07:13] <gss6> after im done with my task, i exit out
[07:13] <gansinho> please, I need some help, I'm trying to connect my cellphone to my pc via bluetooth, however my dongle is not supported, is there anything I can do?
[07:13] <host`> and I can change it, I'll mess around later and figure out how
[07:13] <avagant> Oh and if you are root hit ctrl d
[07:13] <psusi> polx: have you tried the alternate install cd?
[07:13] <gss6> no edgy via ship-it...wtf
[07:13] <avagant> if you want to get back to your user name.
[07:13] <mnepton> host`: it's far more secure than the usual su to root. lots of Unices are using sudo exclusively (OSX being one of the others).
[07:14] <DHN_WP> What should I expect from Ubuntu? I have only used Mandrake before.
[07:14] <psusi> gss6: it isn't out yet
[07:14] <avagant> ARG OSX
[07:14] <BHSPitLappy> ganadist, connect it how, just to sent files over?
[07:14] <host`> I've just been hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and su to root
[07:14] <morghanphoenix> I keep having problems with my cd & dvd drives. They'll act like they're reading when there's nothing there and crash KDE almost daily, I'm not talking session restart crash, I'm talking power down restarts.
[07:14] <mnepton> psusi: even when it is out Ship-It will remain Dapper. or that's the last i heard.
[07:14] <avagant> Well to "un-root" in the terminal you hit ctrl+d
[07:14] <avagant> I just figured that one out.
[07:15] <avagant> Thanks aztek.
[07:15] <polx> psusi: alternate cd...the one that uses the traditional installation?
[07:15] <psusi> host`: you can just login as root with no pw from the console
[07:15] <psusi> polx: yes
[07:15] <Tru7h> How do you get root?
[07:15] <avagant> sudo bash or su
[07:15] <mnepton> Tru7h: sudo su
[07:15] <avagant> i've used sudo bash
[07:15] <polx> psusi: thanks...
[07:15] <Tru7h> mnepton: Thanks.
[07:15] <morghanphoenix> Add a root password, works better for me.
[07:15] <host`> how do you do that psusi ?
[07:15] <fildo> brothel . pay money. root
[07:15] <polx> oh well another set back
[07:15] <psusi> sudo -s is shorter than sudo su
[07:16] <mnepton> host`: just use sudo su
[07:16] <gss6> psusi, it sounded like mnepton said that there will be no edgy ship-it
[07:16] <Borat> isnt it sudo sw?
[07:16] <host`> ahh
[07:16] <mnepton> host`: (if you *have* to)
[07:16] <avagant> I played around with a Windows command term the other day and I was like whaaa?
[07:16] <psusi> host` enter 'root' when prompted for the login name on the tty
[07:16] <DHN_WP> Does Ubuntu use a packaging system?
[07:16] <mnepton> !apt-get
[07:16] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:16] <[NP] Tangent> !synaptic
[07:16] <Seveas> psusi, sudo -i is better
[07:16] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[07:16] <avagant> Borat: I honestly don't know the right way, I've been using sudo bash
[07:16] <Seveas> sudo bash is bad
[07:16] <psusi> I'm prety sure edgy will be ship-it once it is released
[07:16] <Madpilot> DHN_WP, it uses apt
[07:17] <Seveas> sudo -i is the one true way of getting a safe root shell
[07:17] <psusi> hey Seeveas, long time no see
[07:17] <Seveas> sudo su - also works for that though
[07:17] <mnepton> the correct way is to use sudo for all commands. but ifnecessary, use sudo su.
[07:17] <Borat> avagant wtf lol
[07:17] <psusi> I usually use -s since I like keeping crap in my home directory ;)
[07:17] <gss6> i should be getting my dapper ship it soon, or just in time for edgy...go figure
[07:17] <avagant> Looks like I'm going to have to look up some more commands then. Haha
[07:17] <mnepton> Seveas: mornin' :)
[07:17] <guest_> hi
[07:17] <psusi> if I REALLY need a root shell, I boot into single user mode ;)
[07:17] <Seveas> hi mnepton
[07:18] <Borat> i have finnaly converted my mom into using ubuntu
[07:18] <guest_> how are you
[07:18] <Borat> mission accomplished
[07:18] <avagant> I never knew about sudo -s or -i or anything.
[07:18] <Seveas> \o/ Borat
[07:18] <fildo> haha
[07:18] <Tru7h> Borat: Very well done. My mother has difficulty fathoming the concept of an alternate operating system.
[07:18] <avagant> I don't know if I'm completely converted, I do miss Windows a bit.
[07:18] <DHN_WP> who's lilo?
[07:18] <Borat> i did the wallpaper trick,
[07:18] <Tru7h> I still use Windows for agming.
[07:18] <Tru7h> gaming*
[07:18] <Borat> where you take a screen of the screen
[07:19] <avagant> Hahaha
[07:19] <Borat> same here, i just run ubuntu on my lappy
[07:19] <avagant> Borat: I had that for a while when I was running fluxbox.
[07:19] <efrancolaporte> hey i know i come here way too often but...
[07:19] <avagant> A screen of my gnome screen.
[07:19] <Tru7h> I've got three desktops. One is WinXP Pro, one is Ubuntu, and one has them both on dual boot.
[07:19] <Borat> adios guys, im going to sleep
[07:19] <lansing> for nicotine install wat one .bz2 or.gz
[07:19] <snoops> avagant, I hate that I still have to use windows these days..Ubuntu has made my computing experience so much more enjoyable.. oh well
[07:19] <efrancolaporte> OpenOffice's spellcheck doesnt work (seems disabled) i have no idea why.... helP!
[07:19] <fildo> i triple boot !
[07:19] <guest_> adios borat
[07:19] <Tru7h> I've also got a knoppix laptop.
[07:19] <fildo> redhat / kunbuntu / winblowz
[07:19] <avagant> snoops: Unfortunetly I've had nothing but trouble, but it's worth it.
[07:20] <avagant> I know more about an operating system now then I ever have.
[07:20] <host`> I don't like fluxbox, I was messing around in it earlier and ended up having to pkill it
[07:20] <Tru7h> I second that, host`.
[07:20] <efrancolaporte> how do you enable OpenOffice's spellcheck?
[07:20] <host`> icons appeared on my desktop all the sudden and I don't do anything but go into my other partitions
[07:20] <snoops> avagant, yep.. I still get strange things.. but it's all part of the learning experience
[07:20] <lansing> avagant wat one do i install .gz or.bz2
[07:20] <polx> BHSPitLappy: my problem with ubuntu's installation is that the partitioning tool in the live cd and the installation recognises my hard drive as unpartitioned
[07:20] <avagant> bz2.
[07:20] <avagant> But you've got to untar it and such.
[07:20] <host`> I couldn't*
[07:21] <psusi> I love the fact that I can do what I'm doing right now: chatting on irc, downloading bia bittorrent the iso of the livecd, and burning it, all in text mode while my X is borked
[07:21] <Madpilot> avagant, that sounds like how I got involved in Ubuntu ;) Now I tell people that I was too lazy to crack XP, so I learned an entirely new OS
[07:21] <Tru7h> polx: Try the alternate CD.
[07:21] <avagant> GRR web needs to work hold on lansing before yo udo anything.
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> polx, and this is dapper?
[07:21] <lansing> k
[07:21] <polx> BHSPitLappy: but my hard drive is partitioned
[07:21] <polx> BHSPitLAppy: it 6.06.1
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> ouch
[07:21] <psusi> hrm... Madpilot... do I know you from somewhere?
[07:21] <avagant> Madpilot: Well it started out with no sound on Windows, then sound off and on in Ubuntu.
[07:21] <avagant> So I've been fighting all of this from day one.
[07:21] <avagant> Now I have sound running in Alsa, purrin' like a cat.
[07:22] <gss6> im just afraid that when i get a job, ill have to provide support on windows and will forget mostly everything
[07:22] <gss6> lol
[07:22] <gss6> college for Comp Info Sys
[07:22] <Shadow_mil> :)
[07:22] <fildo> lol
[07:22] <Madpilot> psusi, I'm on the #ubuntu channels far too much, and some other Freenode channels...
[07:22] <psusi> possibly days gone by on Effnet where I was known as |Phreak|.... but more likely... are you a motu?
[07:22] <Tru7h> avagant: Did you just re-download your sound card driver?
[07:22] <avagant> Tru7h: What on Windows?
[07:22] <fildo> phreakzoid !
[07:22] <Madpilot> psusi, not a motu, never hung on Effnet - sorry
[07:22] <Tru7h> Yeah.
[07:22] <psusi> ?!
[07:22] <psusi> woiiii
[07:22] <avagant> Tried it, but didn't know WHAT soundcard I had until I got Ubuntu.
[07:22] <gss6> CCNP is a huge bitch for everyones knowledge
[07:23] <polx> seems like my problem is quite unique
[07:23] <spanglesontoast> hey folks
[07:23] <spanglesontoast> how do I enable the desktop icons
[07:23] <spanglesontoast> for gnome
[07:23] <fildo> avagant: lshw
[07:23] <Geoffrey2> I have to say, the Ubuntu version numbering system is strange...I'm sure there's a reason for it, but it looks strange to me anyway
[07:23] <avagant> Windows, fildo?
[07:23] <efrancolaporte> how do you enable OpenOffice's spellcheck?
[07:23] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: year.month
[07:23] <avagant> Geoffrey2: I thought Ubuntu was going by the alphabet for a while.
[07:24] <Flannel> avagant: that's just code names
[07:24] <fildo> goto device manager
[07:24] <Shadow_mil> kubuntu breezy badger installed, upgrading to dapper :)
[07:24] <Madpilot> avagant, the code names will be roughly alphabetical from now on, apparently
[07:24] <avagant> NO I know what one I have now, fildo.
[07:24] <fildo> ah ok
[07:24] <avagant> But before, I didn't. I screwed up Windows and got Ubuntu and sound worked for the first time since I've had this computer.
[07:24] <fildo> how many ppl from aus here
[07:24] <fildo> !
[07:24] <avagant> Right out of the box.
[07:24] <polx> is the installation of ubuntu less superior than mandrivas?
[07:24] <bur[n] er> lol
[07:25] <avagant> The only problem is the whole alsa issue that I've been fighting since day one.
[07:25] <gss6> i like it better
[07:25] <psusi> polx: you tried the alternate cd yet?
[07:25] <loper06> need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?
[07:25] <wickedpuppy> polx, eh ah .. what a question .. btw windows has the worst installer
[07:25] <BHSPitLappy> polx, that's a matter of opinion...
[07:25] <efrancolaporte> anyone knows how to enable open office spellcheck it doesnt work on my system
[07:25] <Tru7h> It's possible to order Ubuntu CDs for free, isn't it?
[07:25] <Flannel> !tell Tru7h about shipit
[07:25] <wickedpuppy> yes
[07:25] <Geoffrey2> Flannel, ah...ok, so Edgey should be coming out sometime this month?
[07:25] <Flannel> Geoffrey2: the 28th, I believe. yes.
[07:25] <wickedpuppy> !schedule
[07:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:25] <psusi> holy christ! is it really almost time for another release?
[07:25] <Tru7h> Thanks, Flannel.
[07:25] <gss6> part of me just wants a way to straight install from c
[07:25] <gss6> d
[07:25] <bimberi> spanglesontoast: alt-f2 then 'gconf-editor' and navigate to /appl/nautilus/desktop and check the appropriate checkboxes (eg. volumes_visible)
[07:25] <spanglesontoast> ty
[07:25] <BHSPitLappy> polx, just a consideration, you could try doing your partitioning using another livecd/installer, and then hope it picks those up in the Mount Point step of ubuntu
[07:26] <gss6> instead of booting to live OS
[07:26] <Madpilot> fildo, there's also #ubuntu-au for Australian Ubuntu users
[07:26] <BHSPitLappy> should still file a bug report though
[07:26] <Flannel> gss6: Alternate SO
[07:26] <Flannel> gss6: ISO even
[07:26] <Geoffrey2> well, since I've been told it's version 6.10, I would assume then that meant a target date in October
[07:26] <gss6> good to know
[07:26] <loper06> need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?
[07:26] <fildo> cool thanks Madpilot
[07:26] <bimberi> spanglesontoast: oops it's /apps/...  not  /appl/...
[07:26] <avagant> I'm having a heck of a time with Firefox today.
[07:27] <Tru7h> bimberi: How do you do that spiffy italicising?
[07:27] <avagant> It doesn't want to go to webpages.
[07:27] <shinobi2> i am using  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/sda6 ro vga=788 quiet splash  ; but the words are still fat and stretched, i am on a 1280x800 screen , anyone know how to fix this for console?
[07:27] <spanglesontoast> ty though bimberi
[07:27] <avagant> I'm afrarid of how many dependencies and what I'll screw up if I got rid of it.
[07:27] <gss6> any good howto's on SMP support?
[07:27] <polx> for some reason im linux curesed
[07:28] <polx> FC gave me the shits, mandriva was buggy and heavy of crap
[07:28] <wickedpuppy> !ubuntu-au
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-au - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <polx> and now ubuntu wont install
[07:28] <avagant> polx: LIke I've mentioned I've had to do a fresh reinstall 7 times in the past 2 weeks.
[07:28] <bimberi> Tru7h: i didn't, unless your client is doing something to words between /slashes/
[07:28] <Tru7h> That's what it's doing. Cool.
[07:28] <avagant> I think I win n00b of the year award.
[07:28] <lansing> no dont know how to ur ? avagant
[07:29] <polx> i think i take n00b...i cant even install
[07:29] <polx> untill my thesis is out the way i cant play with the penguin
[07:29] <psusi> polx: did you try the altnernate cd?
[07:29] <avagant> I've been on like 5 different versions of linux.
[07:29] <avagant> In the past 2 weeks.
[07:29] <Tru7h> Is anybody experienced with setting up printers for Ubuntu? Mine's been giving me some difficulty.
[07:29] <avagant> Each one not working.
[07:29] <loper06> need quick help. i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups" ideas?
[07:29] <Geoffrey2> well, makes me feel a lot better about my copy of Ubuntu self-destructing a few weeks ago
[07:29] <avagant> DO NOT try gentoo unless you have like 2 days to kill.
[07:29] <Flannel> polx: burn slower, 4x
[07:30] <Xanter> avagant: hehehe
[07:30] <polx> no i have not tried the alternate cd because i am in confereace/meeting
[07:30] <psusi> polx: try that.. I have not even seen the new livecd installer yet...
[07:30] <DHN_WP> avagant: I tried it once, gave up after a day
[07:30] <avagant> I spent half a day installing it, and after about 8 hours it was only on package 88 of 300 and some and I said screw it.
[07:30] <Tru7h> polx: From my experiences, the alternat CD is more effective.
[07:30] <avagant> Why do they make it so hard?
[07:30] <polx> psusi: you only use the alternate cd?
[07:31] <avagant> I'm having issues with my live cd disc too, seems it just wants to die after the first initial use of it.
[07:31] <loper06> why is it so hard to get help?
[07:31] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"
[07:31] <psusi> polx: I have yet to install dapper from scratch, I started running breezy release candidates, then just upgraded to dapper
[07:31] <polx> thanks guys for helping me out...after i finish my meeting...gonna go grab the alternate as see if it can install
[07:31] <avagant> I burned it at 8x.
[07:31] <Tru7h> It seems the Live CD only works well on faster computers.
[07:31] <avagant> Well that leaves me out then. Hah.
[07:31] <polx> psusi: is edgy the latest one correct?
[07:31] <Xanter> Tru7h: I take it installing with the live-cd on a 600mhz thinkpad would be a really bad idea ;)
[07:31] <Tru7h> When I tried to install ubuntu on this box with the Live CD, the thing wouldn't even boot up. No complaints about the alternate.
[07:31] <avagant> It takes me at least an hour and a half to get a full install if it works.
[07:31] <polx> psusi: the one in beta correct?
[07:32] <psusi> polx: that is what is currently in development, yes
[07:32] <Tru7h> Xanter: Aye, it would.
[07:32] <polx> Tru7h: does the alternate cd work better than the live?
[07:32] <avagant> The xubuntu disc won't even start.
[07:32] <Flannel> polx: yes
[07:32] <Tru7h> polx: Yes, the Live CD's been known to have more installation errors.
[07:32] <avagant> It gets to the "boot up" screen where the little progress bar goes and stops on the second message.
[07:32] <Flannel> polx: Alternate instlalation is the same as the install CD has been forever
[07:32] <Tru7h> avagant: That's the same problem I had.
[07:33] <avagant> Tru7h: So then alternative cd from now on.
[07:33] <aardfox> Hello everyone, I'm having a problem with beryl. When I go to "select window manager" and click on Beryl the screen flashes 3 or four times then goes back to Metacity. I'm sure I'm the 10,000th person to ask about this but I've found that the HowTo's are only helpful to a point.
[07:33] <kakalto> I can't install anything - my apt-get complains that a missing dependency is libuim3. when I try to install that, it complains about conflicting package libuim0
[07:33] <kakalto> can anyone help?
[07:33] <Tru7h> avagant: For sure. The Live CD is intended just for trying out Ubuntu.
[07:33] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"
[07:33] <Tru7h> If you want to get the most out of it, you definitely need to install.
[07:33] <avagant> It does take a billion years to load.
[07:33] <snoops> aardfox there's #ubuntu-xgl which may be more helpful.. Have you got an nvidia or ati?
[07:34] <aardfox> ati
[07:34] <Tru7h> avagant: If it takes more than a half hour, I'd just ditch it.
[07:34] <avagant> Oooooo yah.
[07:34] <aardfox> ati x700 pro
[07:34] <Tru7h> avagant: I tried the Live CD on my laptop, was booting for an hour and then I killed it. The alternate CD had no troubles at all.
[07:34] <avagant> Half hour is REASONABLe.
[07:34] <snoops> and the fglrx drivers are installed for it aardfox?
[07:34] <physicsnick> hi, i just created a link to a bad resource in remote:/
[07:34] <physicsnick> now it won't let me edit or delete the thing
[07:34] <physicsnick> how do i get rid of it?
[07:34] <lansing> avagant did u get it to work
[07:34] <avagant> No my net refuses to work.
[07:34] <aardfox> yes, snoops
[07:34] <lansing> dam
[07:34] <loper06> why is it so hard to get help?
[07:34] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. it hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups"
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> anyone using Firefox 2 at this point?
[07:35] <Bips> kernel panic after compiling kernel-2.6.18.. error message attached http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26257/
[07:35] <lansing> iam
[07:35] <Tru7h> Obviously booting from a Live CD will take longer since the entire OS is loading from it. I prefer the alternate CD in many ways.
[07:35] <physicsnick> Geoffrey2, i am
[07:35] <aardfox> Geoffrey2 I've used it
[07:35] <Xanter> hrm, from the website (ubuntu.com) it seems that only the server install has a simple LAMP pack?. I want to use the machine for a backup webserver and as.. well basically a tv/media box. Any suggestions for what to go with?
[07:35] <avagant> lansing: There's a repository for nicotine+ that makes it 300 times easier to install.
[07:35] <aardfox> it's damn cool
[07:35] <snoops> aardfox, yeah.. then I suggest #ubuntu-xgl
[07:35] <aardfox> ok
[07:35] <aardfox> thanks snoops
[07:35] <avagant> lansing: You would basically have to learn how to compile and make the whole entire program with that tar.bz
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> is it a decent upgrade from 1.5?
[07:35] <avagant> I know because I tried.
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> Xanter: I believe you just need to install ubuntu-server.
[07:36] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!
[07:36] <avagant> I have a question, has anybody had any success with last.fm?
[07:36] <lansing> o
[07:36] <polx> one problem that i had with my lappy with mandriva was no sound due to my ICH7 soundcard
[07:36] <aardfox> Geoffrey2: yes
[07:36] <polx> is that the problem with ubuntu?
[07:36] <Xanter> tonyyarusso: Will that give me the same basic choices for gui as the desktop version?
[07:36] <avagant> Oh you CAN sudo apt-get install nicotine but it's an older version.
[07:36] <lansing> is there an easy way to instll nicotine
[07:36] <avagant> the latest is <IP_ADDRESS> the one in the repositories is like 10.8
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> Xanter: I mean you can do your regular install and do that on top - all Ubuntu versions have the same packages, it's just a matter of what they install by default.
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> well, as soon as it's available in the repos, I'll have to install it
[07:37] <Tru7h> The repositories always seem to be out of date.
[07:37] <avagant> If i could get to the website I'd show you, lansing.
[07:37] <lansing> thats the one i got is nicotine 10.8.tar.bz.2
[07:37] <avagant> But firefox is not letting me do ANYTHING.
[07:37] <avagant> Ok you definitley need the latest version.
[07:37] <Xanter> tonyyarusso: kay
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> avagant, have you tried a different browser?
[07:38] <lansing> ok wat do i do
[07:38] <avagant> Ok google Nicotine+ trac
[07:38] <lansing> cus iam on the nicotine website it self
[07:39] <avagant> Geoffrey2: I'm about to shut it down and try it again.
[07:39] <k0rd> how do you get Nicotine?
[07:39] <psusi> you SMOKE... which is what I'm going outside to do now ;)
[07:39] <k0rd> can you apt-get?
[07:39] <avagant> well if you just want something you can apt-get.
[07:39] <Geoffrey2> avagant, after all, Opera is available for Ubuntu
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: Yes
[07:39] <avagant> If you want the older version yes, k)rd.
[07:39] <avagant> If you want the newest one, you have to find the repository they just put up and add it to your list.
[07:40] <avagant> I have it up right now but can't get to the website.
[07:40] <Geoffrey2> what the heck is Nicotine anyway?   HELP!!!
[07:41] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!
[07:41] <Geoffrey2> ah, of course, file sharing.....
[07:41] <jUggERNAUt1980> hey, has anybody here installed neverwinter nights on ubuntu??
[07:41] <aardfox> I'm trying to install cedega and it says that the "xlibs" dependency is not satisfiable, when i have xlibs installed
[07:42] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: Isn't that a Mac application?
[07:42] <k0rd> isn't there one
[07:42] <k0rd> to display the temp outside
[07:42] <k0rd> not the core temp?
[07:42] <mnepton> lansing: i answered your questions like an hour ago
[07:42] <k0rd> like the temperature in your zipcode?
[07:42] <k0rd> thats what I mean
[07:42] <Shadow_mil> whats the apt-get line to install gnome?
[07:42] <Tru7h> As far as I know, there's no Mac programs that run on Ubuntu.
[07:42] <Shadow_mil> apt-get install gnome ?
[07:42] <jUggERNAUt1980> Tru7h, it's actually a windows game, but there are resources for installing on linux, but i can't seem to get the game to work right.
[07:42] <mnepton> Shadow_mil: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:42] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: Did you use wine?
[07:42] <Shadow_mil> mnepton thanks
[07:42] <k0rd> whats the apt-get for Nicotine?
[07:43] <jUggERNAUt1980> it's telling me that it can't create mcop directory.
[07:43] <avagant> Ok now it works.
[07:43] <avagant> sudo apt-get install nicotine.
[07:43] <avagant> minus the period.
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> k0rd: Oh, then just right-click add to panel, select weather applet
[07:43] <jUggERNAUt1980> you shouldn't have to with the downloaded resource files and nwn linux client.
[07:43] <avagant> So wait is it better to sudo -i or sudo su then it is sudo bash?
[07:44] <Tru7h> jUggERNAUt1980: Not all games are supported by wine. There's a list on the wine website of supported games.
[07:44] <loper06> i can't shudown my box. shutdown hangs at "Shutting down LVM volume groups". boot works just fine. HELP!!!