[06:51] <{K}Lubby> yossman, when i hit the okay button after putting in the static ip settings it says: could not enable the interface eth0. check that the settings are correct for this network and that the computer is correctly connected to it
[06:52] <el_isma> shawn_grimes it isn't that hard :)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> 'use the shell luke! Give in to the Bash!'
[06:52] <el_isma> hahaha
[06:52] <Tonren> shawn: Don't be intimidated by the console; it's easy to tame once you understand a few core concepts.  The concept of "permissions" exists in Windows as well, just less obviously
[06:52] <azureal> shell is where it's at, lol
[06:52] <GoDawgs> cafuego:
[06:52] <{K}Lubby> anyone know how to fix it?
[06:52] <el_isma> shawn: never used DOS?
[06:52] <shawn_grimes> not at all
[06:52] <cafuego> GoDawgs:
[06:52] <GoDawgs> followed your directions... and for the first time I was able to activate the eth1.... it shows up... but for some reason I still can't get out
[06:52] <azureal> el_isma: don't bring up that garbage ;)
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> shawn,  check out   http://www.tldp.org/guides.html          - lots of guides to help ya there. (bookmark that site)
[06:53] <el_isma> azureal: well... it's "console"y :P
[06:53] <shawn_grimes> I have a MacBook and I'm just trying to swap out that file to use my correct resolution with Parallels desktop
[06:53] <GoDawgs> cafuego: I was soooo excited... because this is my only obstacle to using Ubuntu full time.
[06:53] <{K}Lubby> a possible problem i was thinking of is that im running ubuntu off the cd (the demo version type thingy) and haven't actually installed it yet
[06:53] <eternalswd> gnome terminal is still using bash even though I ran chsh /usr/bin/zsh  do I need to relogin for this to change?
[06:53] <cafuego> GoDawgs: yeah, there's some tweaking you may need to do for 4318 cards; I just dunno what, as I don't have one :-(
[06:53] <azureal> el_isma: it's nothing. it's.... bleh
[06:53] <etzerd> hello all
[06:54] <seshomaru> can anyone tell me how to fix grub?
[06:54] <azureal> el_isma: and yet... i find myself using it for random things like "del *.png"
[06:54] <etzerd> can anyone tell me how to install KDE in ubuntu6.0?
[06:54] <{K}Lubby> ...anyone know why it won't let me set static ip stuff?
[06:54] <cafuego> etzerd: install 'kubuntu-desktop'.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,   try 'xterm -ls'  it may only change for your login shell.
[06:54] <el_isma> azureal: It's been so long since I used that... I guess nowadays I'll get quite scared :P
[06:54] <GoDawgs> cafuego: well, I understand that... kinda bummed because my heart raced when I saw it show up in the dropdown box... but then I was let straight down when I could get google to come up.
[06:54] <etzerd> thanks cafuego
[06:54] <el_isma> azureal: but I do use the command prompt in windows... every now and then
[06:54] <azureal> today i've had enough of a fright, so now i'm not afraid of any consoles
[06:54] <GoDawgs> cafuego: at least you were able to get me to the point where I can see it in the network dropdown
[06:54] <cafuego> GoDawgs: Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper (it list some possible fixes, added by people who have a 4318)
[06:55] <GoDawgs> ok... let me give that a shot now...
[06:55] <etzerd> one more thing cafuego
[06:55] <flipfone> who was just helping me a few minutes ago?
[06:55] <TheGame> anybody have any success with ntfs-3g
[06:55] <harisund> What is debfoster?
[06:55] <cafuego> etzerd: yah?
[06:55] <etzerd> where can i go to install the driver for dvd
[06:55] <cafuego> harisund: A handy decrufting tool.
[06:55] <el_isma> yeah, what's debfoster?
[06:56] <eternalswd> Dr_Willis, that also used bash
[06:56] <Pizon> debfoster looks like a good way to get yaself in trouble
[06:56] <TheGame> has any1 here installed ntfs-3g
[06:56] <azureal> shawn_grimes, excellent linux tutorial series called "Linux Survival"
[06:56] <cafuego> etzerd: As in: to watch video?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  yea.. noticing that also. :P
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  not sure what the deal is. heh.. make a new profile that runs the shell ya want. I perfer the 'fish' shell myself.
[06:56] <el_isma> I get it... for finding "Orphan" debs.... :)
[06:56] <etzerd> I know they have a site where you can go just copy and past I forgert the URL address
[06:56] <cafuego> etzerd: Ah, easyubuntu.
[06:57] <etzerd> thanks
[06:57] <UnknownEvil> hello?
[06:57] <cafuego> etzerd: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:57] <Dr_Willis>  chsh changes the user login shell. This determines the name of the users initial login command.
[06:57] <{K}Lubby> is ubuntu the best version of linux for just using stuff like browsing the internet? (it has to be able to connect with a crossover ethernet cable to my windows xp computer so i have internet access on it)
[06:57] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Any version of Linux will be able to do that.
[06:58] <|thunder> is there a tool to easily configure ndiswrapper? for choosing which AP to connect to ?
[06:58] <{K}Lubby> okay
[06:58] <{K}Lubby> so is there a valid reason why it's not working?
[06:58] <Frankenstein> how can i flush the local dns cache in ubuntu?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  try it at the console.. it used the new shell there for me. :P
[06:58] <cafuego> |thunder: If you're in Gnome, try 'network-manager'
[06:58] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Routing not working, windows not sharing network, no dns server... those are the usuals.
[06:58] <ubuntu> Hey everyone, I'm having troubles with my iMac G3. I am trying to install dapper, and after I do the known change to xorg.conf*changing the horiszontal and vertical settings* and try to restart gdm...it fails. Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong? That and for some reason my computer screen is cutting off 2 characters off of the left side.
[06:58] <el_isma> I want to set up a bridge between my two eth. cards....  "Route" hangs when they're bridged. Help :'(
[06:58] <UnknownEvil> Can someone tell me how to set up my wireless network card? I coulnd't conncect to the internet when I booted up my PC with the Live cd.
[06:59] <|thunder> cafuego, thanks
[06:59] <Samineru> the instructions for compiling xanim are a bit confusing, could someone help me?
[06:59] <eternalswd> Dr_Willis, I figured it out. I'm running zsh as a custom command rather than my shell
[06:59] <{K}Lubby> how do i get to /etc/hosts?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  heh.
[06:59] <Frankenstein> {K}Lubby, sudo nano /etc/hosts
[06:59] <GoDawgs> cafuego: oh my god dude....
[07:00] <GoDawgs> IT'S FRICKIN' WORKING!!!!
[07:00] <{K}Lubby> thanks
[07:00] <GoDawgs> I'm so happy I can't see straight.
[07:00] <{K}Lubby> whats working godawgs?
[07:00] <GoDawgs> My god this has been a thorn in my side for a year.
[07:00] <azureal> a year!
[07:00] <GoDawgs> {K}Lubby:  My broadcom 4318...
[07:00] <Samineru> !xanim
[07:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about xanim - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:00] <{K}Lubby> cool
[07:00] <GoDawgs> azureal: yep... cafuego is a god!!!
[07:00] <GoDawgs> :)
[07:01] <azureal> GoDawgs: that's a bad wireless card, right? lol
[07:01] <GoDawgs> cafuego: dude, you rock!!!
[07:01] <cafuego> GoDawgs: *whee!*
[07:01] <{K}Lubby> and in /etc/hosts, is localhost the ip of the gateway/router type thing, or the ip of that computer that /etc/hosts is on?
[07:01] <eternalswd> Dr_Willis under Edit -> Current Profile  in the tab Title and Command  I checked "Run a custom command instead of my shell"  and typed in zsh for the "Custom command"
[07:01] <GoDawgs> azureal: misbehaving yes!!!
[07:01] <Frankenstein> how can i flush the local dns cache in ubuntu?
[07:01] <GoDawgs> azureal: sadly, I bought this computer when I knew nothing about linux...
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> eternalswd,  thats one way. :P i set up that for mc, and screen, and other tools as well.
[07:02] <cafuego> GoDawgs: If there is anything you needed to do that wasn't mentioned on the wiki, please add it.
[07:02] <{K}Lubby> anyone know what localhost refers to?
[07:02] <Frankenstein> {K}Lubby, your computer
[07:02] <GoDawgs> cafuego: you know, the very last post in the wiki is what I needed...
[07:02] <azureal> GoDawgs: you could always buy a nice wireless card =)
[07:02] <azureal> *cough* orinoco
[07:02] <GoDawgs> azureal: I thought I had... I bought an external...
[07:02] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: It refers to "itself" .  localhost is a computer's way of saying "me" or "myself"
[07:02] <{K}Lubby> okay thought so
[07:02] <pushpop> THe swap partition is that Primary or logical?
[07:02] <cafuego> azureal: orinocos (silver) are 16bit yaargh
[07:02] <Frankenstein> so no one knows how to flush the dns?!
[07:03] <{K}Lubby> so i want that ip address to be the ip address i want that computer to be, right?
[07:03] <Tonren> Frankenstein: Ubuntu keeps a local DNS cache...?  I thought you had to specifically set that up
[07:03] <GoDawgs> azureal: my god this is beautiful...
[07:03] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Actually, localhost shoulda lways be <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:03] <azureal> what was the solution?
[07:03] <{K}Lubby> oh
[07:03] <GoDawgs> never thought i would be so freakin' stoked by a wlan :)
[07:03] <{K}Lubby> why tonren?
[07:03] <pushpop> Question, The swap partition is the Primary or Logical?
[07:03] <ubuntu> Anyone? Any help? Right now I am talking on this board from console. :-/ and well I want to get my computer fully working asap :(
[07:03] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Whenever a computer accesses <IP_ADDRESS>, it knows it should be looking for itself.  <IP_ADDRESS> is the default IP for localhost.
[07:03] <GoDawgs> azureal: are you asking me?
[07:03] <Frankenstein> ubuntu, you would have to ask a question
[07:03] <ubuntu> channel*
[07:03] <{K}Lubby> cause i want it to be 192.168.0.something-other-than-1 so it can connect to my xp
[07:04] <ubuntu> I did...
[07:04] <Frankenstein> ubuntu, ask it again
[07:04] <azureal> GoDawgs: yea, the original solution, the original 'directions'
[07:04] <ubuntu> Ok
[07:04] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Ah.  Well, that IP address will be associated with your network card, rather than localhost.
[07:04] <xquizit> hey, I got a simple question, I downloaded the Murrine Gtk2 Cairo Engine  from gnome-look and I have no clue how to use it, I downloaded the deb package and it installed fine, but how do I use it??
[07:04] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Are both computers connected to the same router?
[07:04] <azureal> GoDawgs: did it involve editing /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:04] <october> what is the best way to check a drive in Linux to see if it's OK?
[07:04] <GoDawgs> azureal: sure...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:05] <GoDawgs> azureal: no not at all
[07:05] <{K}Lubby> tonren, im using a crossover cable to connect them together.... same thing basically as having them connected together through a hub
[07:05] <GoDawgs> i just needed the firmware... then a few more steps and then to use the sudo ifconfig eth1 down  sudo ifconfig eth1 up commands
[07:05] <ubuntu> I am on an iMac G3, and I switched the horizontal and vertical settings in xorg.conf as I had done previously when I installed ubuntu. But this time when I tried restarting gdm it failed to start. Can anyone help me fix my computer to actually work?
[07:05] <GoDawgs> and bingo i am surfin' the net
[07:05] <azureal> GoDawgs, oh yea, i saw that link, but i was wondering what directions he gave you before that ;)
[07:05] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: ahh.  I haven't worked with cross-over cables before.  i'm not entirely sure how that woul dwork
[07:05] <october> GoDawgs heh, I'm in Macon
[07:06] <GoDawgs> october: i just moved here from southern california
[07:06] <|thunder> ive scanned the foums and cannot for the life of me figure out how to build or instsall this native wireless driver.
[07:06] <{K}Lubby> tonren its the exact same as using a hub or soemthing similar
[07:06] <mystic> so...nobody know how to confgure gtk-engines?
[07:06] <GoDawgs> october: that's very cool :)
[07:06] <october> GoDawgs nice... I used to live in the bay area, so there we go ;)
[07:06] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Well, a cross-over cable usually doesn't know how to run a DHCP server and assign IP addresses to the computers connected to it.  :P
[07:06] <GoDawgs> october: I grew up here in Stone Mountain but have been away for 12 years...
[07:06] <|thunder> What do I do the a MAKEFILE and a bunch  of .h files ?
[07:06] <october> anyhoo
[07:06] <azureal> thing is, i was struggling very badly getting my intel wireless card to work under gentoo
[07:06] <ubuntu> Oh and sorry my name is ubuntu, I dont know how to change it
[07:06] <GoDawgs> october: right on!  My fiancee is from Santa Cruz.
[07:06] <azureal> blah, bad sentence structure
[07:06] <GoDawgs> azureal: Man, I sooooo understand.
[07:06] <el_isma> ubuntu: i think it's /name yourname
[07:06] <Tonren> |thunder: There's a special command called "make" which uses a Makefile as a set of rules to take the .h files and build them into an actual program
[07:06] <|thunder> ubuntu use /nick name
[07:07] <october> GoDawgs ;)  catch me as "Trae"  (my name) on #ubuntu-offtopic sometime
[07:07] <GoDawgs> october: will do :)
[07:07] <mikeg> Ubugtu:  wat to do if my sata drives are not detected
[07:07] <october> not now though... trying to fix this damned laptop
[07:07] <tanlaan> there we go :D
[07:07] <|thunder> Tonren, ive tried that. make and make MAKEFILE
[07:07] <|thunder> just errors
[07:07] <azureal> GoDawgs: you do? did you have to make crazy kernel changes and recompile?  ;)
[07:07] <mikeg> tanlaan:   wat to do if my sata drives are not detected
[07:07] <TheGame> is there a way to change shift+ctrl+v in terminal to just ctrl+v
[07:07] <GoDawgs> october: I'm Kelley.  Nice to meet you.
[07:07] <Tonren> |thunder: you'll have a hell of a time building them without knowing which packages you need installed to do it, though
[07:07] <GoDawgs> azureal: no, i'm not that ballzy....
[07:07] <Tonren> |thunder: Is there a list of "dependencies" on the site you downloaded them from?
[07:07] <october> GoDawgs backatcha ;)
[07:07] <GoDawgs> *smile*
[07:07] <tanlaan> mikeg: what?
[07:07] <TheGame> any1?
[07:07] <azureal> i kept trying to get that card to work that i broke gentoo
[07:08] <GoDawgs> brb... have to call my fiancee and share the good news :)
[07:08] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Are both of the computers connected to the internet...?
[07:08] <{K}Lubby> tonren, can you tell me how to set up the ip address to <IP_ADDRESS>, gateway ip to <IP_ADDRESS>, subnet mask to <IP_ADDRESS>, dns server to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:08] <october> meh....  bbl
[07:08] <Tixer> um, ubuntu doesn't work for me anymore
[07:08] <Tixer> anyone wanna PM me?
[07:08] <mikeg> tanlaan:  my SATA drives are not detected. whats lacking?
[07:08] <|thunder> Tonren, its the only non-ndiswrwapper reference i can find. came in some sort of d-link linux distro. i dont know. but the readme's are useless in the tar.gz
[07:08] <azureal> and now i might have done something suicidal
[07:08] <Tixer> kstartupconfig = dead
[07:08] <Madpilot> Tixer, you're better off to just ask your questions here
[07:09] <tanlaan> mikeg: sorry I have no idea.
[07:09] <Tonren> |thunder: Your wireles sis'nt broadcom, is it?
[07:09] <Tixer> hang on, I'll copy the message...
[07:09] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: I'm pretty sure you can do all that using "sudo ifconfig"
[07:09] <azureal> yea, proceed Tixer
[07:09] <{K}Lubby> tonren, the xp is connected to the internet through a different network that i'm not allowed to hook the ubuntu directly into, so im hooking the ubuntu up to the xp and having the xp share the internet connection with the ubuntu (i already got this to work when the ubuntu was using xp, but i want to have an ubuntu computer)
[07:09] <mikeg> tanlaan: its okay
[07:09] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: For example, "sudo ifconfig eth0 gateway <IP_ADDRESS>"
[07:09] <|thunder> Tonren, no, Chipset: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems [AirConn]  INPROCOMM IPN 2220 Wireless LAN Adapter (rev 01)
[07:09] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Or "sudo ifconfig eth0 address <IP_ADDRESS>"
[07:09] <Tixer> booting VPC
[07:09] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: that MIGHT not work though
[07:10] <sethk> no
[07:10] <sethk> it is
[07:10] <Tonren> |thunder: ndiswrapper didn't work for you?
[07:10] <sethk> {K}Lubby, ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:10] <Tonren> sethk: It'll work without an argument?
[07:10] <tanlaan> Is there anything I need to change in xorg.conf other than the horizontal and vertical settings? Maybe I need to get a different version of the Dapper install *This is the live cd instead of the install*
[07:10] <sethk> yes
[07:10] <|thunder> ive never use ndiswrapper.
[07:10] <sethk> Tonren, yes, I tried it here before I pasted it
[07:10] <Tonren> sethk: Cool.  What about default gateway, though?  do you need to do sudo ifconfig eth0 gateway?
[07:10] <Tonren> sethk: cool
[07:11] <Tonren> |thunder: Maybe you should try ndiswrapper.  It won't involve building anything from source, which is like pulling teeth
[07:11] <mikeg> cycom: hi
[07:11] <sethk> Tonren, sudo route add default gw ###.###.###.###
[07:11] <Tonren> |thunder: Go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for "Ndiswrapper"
[07:11] <sethk> Tonren, where ###.###.###.### is the gateway's IP address
[07:11] <{K}Lubby> hey tonren i got a problem
[07:11] <Tonren> sethk: Sweet.
[07:11] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Aye?
[07:11] <{K}Lubby> it says SIOcSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unnavailable
[07:12] <{K}Lubby> after i did the sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:12] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: on what command?
[07:12] <Tonren> oh
[07:12] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: hmm.. sethk any words of wisdom?
[07:12] <sethk> {K}Lubby, do ifconfig (no arguments) and paste the results
[07:12] <{K}Lubby> you mean do sudo ifconfig?
[07:12] <sethk> {K}Lubby, eth0 is locked up for some reason
[07:12] <sethk> {K}Lubby, no sudo is necessary because you are just printing the configuration, not changing it
[07:13] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: use pastebin to paste the results and link us from here
[07:13] <{K}Lubby> uhhh theres a bunch of lines, give me a few to type them
[07:13] <Tonren> !pastebin
[07:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:13] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: just copy & paste them into pastebin and give us the link to the page.  :)
[07:13] <sethk> {K}Lubby, do this:   ifconfig > some-file-name
[07:13] <{K}Lubby> tonren, i can't do that if the ubuntu can't connect to the internet...
[07:13] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: oh snap
[07:13] <|thunder> Tonren, I am trying to install this card on a laptop for some ive crossed over to linux. she knows nothing. so I want it to be  easy. are you sure Network-Manager works with ndiswrapper ? i mean, once ndiswrapper is up and running does it function just like a native driver? As in, super easy config when swithcing APs and encryption.
[07:13] <sethk> {K}Lubby, sure you can.  use a usb stick or whatever
[07:13] <Tixer> kk, so I go to login, and I get the message after typing my password...
[07:14] <{K}Lubby> oh yeah duh seth
[07:14] <sethk> {K}Lubby, you must have something.
[07:14] <Tonren> |thunder: I'm fairly certain it does.  I had ndiswrapper running a while ago, and it worked fine with the network manager GUI.
[07:14] <sethk> {K}Lubby, if you reboot you will clear whatever has eth0 locked
[07:14] <Tixer> could not start kstartupconfig. Check your install.
[07:14] <{K}Lubby> mp3 player = flash drive > all
[07:14] <{K}Lubby> seth, i tried rebooting once
[07:14] <{K}Lubby> but i have an idea what has it locked *laughs at self*
[07:14] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: what might have it locked?
[07:14] <GoDawg1> sorry about that guys...
[07:14] <|thunder> Tonren, thank you again.
[07:14] <sethk> {K}Lubby, ok ...
[07:14] <GoDawg1> I had to reboot...
[07:15] <GoDawg1> cafuego: could you send me that wiki link you sent me last?
[07:15] <{K}Lubby> does the fact that im running ubuntu off a cd i burned from an iso file from linux.org make a difference? i mean running the live cd thingy instead of actually instlaling it
[07:15] <mikeg> Tonren: hi tonren.. can i ask u
[07:15] <GoDawg1> I want to bookmark it so I can set up a few other people's computers using that method.
[07:15] <sethk> {K}Lubby, for some things, yes.  but ifconfig should still work
[07:15] <Tonren> |thunder: You're welcome.  Remember, you'll need to run the "modprobe" command once you've installed ndiswrapper, then the driver, and you'll need to run "ndiswrapper -l" in terminal to make sure it's been installed properly.
[07:15] <{K}Lubby> so it *might* make a difference?
[07:15] <Tonren> mikeg: sup?
[07:15] <sethk> {K}Lubby, yes, it's possible
[07:15] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: it might.
[07:15] <mikeg> Tonren:  id like to ask, what to do  if my ubuntu 6.06 does not detect my SATA drive
[07:16] <sethk> {K}Lubby, I'm not saying it is likely, but it is possible
[07:16] <{K}Lubby> cause it seems like since its off a cd it would, cause you obviously can't save stuff like gateway info onto a cd once it's already burned
[07:16] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Yea, you won't be able to edit system files like that.  But you should still be able to change network configurations
[07:16] <Tonren> mikeg: Hmmmm...
[07:16] <{K}Lubby> think i'll try doing that.... can i format/clean install ubuntu from hitting the little install button on the desktop?
[07:16] <sethk> mikeg, do lspci to find out what SATA chipset you have, then you may need to do an insmod for the kernel module for that chipset
[07:16] <mikeg> Tonren: its unknown
[07:16] <GoDawg1> cafuego: i'm sorry that request for a link was directed at you.  I didn't attach your name to it.
[07:17] <cafuego> godawg: hehe, if you don't do that, my irc client doesn't beep at me :-)
[07:17] <cafuego> GoDawgs:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[07:17] <{K}Lubby> your irc beeps at you when someone says your name?
[07:17] <el_isma> sethk: You're back :). I tried making the bridge and using route. Route just hangs, doesn't show my default route (it displays all others, no mention of eth1 either). Any idea?
[07:17] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: mine too
[07:17] <byen> hey fellas.. I broke my terminal :( my terminal open in "/" rather than home... how can i fix this.. Please help.
[07:17] <GoDawg1> cafuego: i figured that's why I sent you the message to follow up.  Thank you so much!  If I knew you better, I'd kiss ya'!
[07:17] <Tixer> whats the command to create a folder in konsole?
[07:17] <sethk> el_isma, that's could be trying to use DNS to resolve an IP to a name.  let me check route and see if that's possible
[07:17] <cafuego> eww, girls germs.
[07:17] <Tonren> mikeg: try this command:  lspci | grep -i "sata"
[07:17] <Tixer> mkdir?
[07:18] <cafuego> not to mention my wife would kill me ;-)
[07:18] <jrojas_>  de ayuda
[07:18] <mikeg> Tonren: thanks i'll this this
[07:18] <sethk> el_isma, yes.  use the -n flag with route, telling it to not try to resolve numbers to names
[07:18] <Tixer> whats the command to create a folder in konsole?
[07:18] <Tonren> mikeg: it won't fix anything - it'll just tell you what SATA driver you have
[07:18] <{K}Lubby> weird, mine doesnt (i think)
[07:18] <sethk> Tixer, mkdir
[07:18] <Tonren> Tixer: mkdir
[07:18] <{K}Lubby> someone say my name
[07:18] <sethk> my name
[07:18] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: testing
[07:18] <Tixer> so like mkdir /home/...
[07:18] <sethk> :)
[07:18] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: which client are you using?
[07:18] <Tixer> ... being a name?
[07:18] <Tonren> Tixer: mkdir home will make a directory called home
[07:19] <byen> hey fellas.. I broke my terminal :( my terminal open in "/" rather than home... how can i fix this.. Please help.
[07:19] <{K}Lubby> nope didn't do it lol
[07:19] <|thunder> Tonren, thanks again. im going to run through thiis tutorial. i might be back to pick your brain. ;p
[07:19] <{K}Lubby> and im using swifswitch irc
[07:19] <sethk> Tixer, yes, assuming /home/ exists.  You can use mkdirhier in case you are creating multiple levels at once.
[07:19] <Tonren> Does anyone know how to make Xchat blink in the taskbar (to sent the "ALERT" signal) when it beeps?
[07:19] <el_isma> sethk: so, I should set the bridge again, and do route -n, and see what I get?
[07:19] <Tonren> |thunder: I'm headin out soon, but I"m sure you'll be able to find someone who can help!
[07:19] <sethk> el_isma, yes
[07:19] <Tixer> thats the problem
[07:19] <el_isma> sethk: ok, brb
[07:19] <Tixer> home doesn't exist
[07:19] <sethk> el_isma, I may get called away again...
[07:19] <|thunder> cool.
[07:19] <Tixer> hence kstartup dying
[07:19] <mikeg> Tonren: no results
[07:20] <azureal> byen: what do you mean by 'broke'
[07:20] <azureal> byen: what did you do
[07:20] <{K}Lubby> is usa west coast gmt -8 or -7 right now?
[07:20] <sethk> {K}Lubby, 8
[07:20] <{K}Lubby> k
[07:20] <byen> azrael0, i do not know.. my terminal just starts into "/" and not in home..
[07:21] <{K}Lubby> for ubuntu install, it says select a city in my timezone and country... what if i can't find one lol?
[07:21] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Ignore that crap, it messes up later anyway.
[07:21] <sethk> byen, it starts in your home directory.  You can look at your home directory by dumping out /etc/passwd
[07:21] <mitch_> {K}Lubby, 7, 8 after daylight savings
[07:21] <{K}Lubby> k
[07:21] <{K}Lubby> that would explain why los angeles which is in my timezone showed up as gmt -7
[07:22] <byen> sethk, you men delete /etc/passwd?
[07:22] <sethk> byen, no, cat /etc/passwd
[07:22] <Tixer> I have a huge problem
[07:22] <sethk> byen, to see what your home directory is set to
[07:22] <Tixer> I need a space bar
[07:22] <|thunder> Tonren, what does this mean ? "Used ndiswrapper -i WLINPDS.INF on Debian Sarge for the Linksys driver. Worked perfectly."
[07:22] <Tixer> how do I create a space
[07:22] <sethk> byen, deleting /etc/passwd would be a very bad thing to do  :)
[07:23] <byen> oh
[07:23] <byen> ::O
[07:23] <Tixer> ALT-32 doesn't work
[07:23] <sethk> Tixer, usually ' '   (either single quote space single quote, or double quote space double quote)
[07:23] <sethk> Tixer, on a command line
[07:23] <Tixer> I don't have a space bar
[07:23] <Tixer> yeah
[07:23] <xelados> Could someone help me figure out "xset"'s usage?
[07:23] <sethk> Tixer, you don't have a space bar?  what do you have?
[07:23] <mikeg> sethk: how to use insmod?
[07:23] <Tixer> a broken one
[07:23] <Tixer> I
[07:24] <xelados> I manpage'd it and it referred me to X(7), but I can't view that manpage.
[07:24] <el_isma> sethk: It didn't work :'(
[07:24] <Tixer> 've been pressing ctrl v all this time
[07:24] <xelados> It says it's undocumented.
[07:24] <Tonren> |thunder: That means ... wait... are you the person trying to use a null modem cable to connect two computers, or trying to get wireless working by building the driver from source, but i suggested to use ndiswrapper?
[07:24] <|thunder> wireless / ndiswrapper
[07:24] <sethk> mikeg, if you know the module to insert, it is easy.  actually, use modprobe instead.   modprobe knows what directory to look in
[07:24] <Tixer> how do I generate a space in terminal
[07:24] <sethk> mikeg, do you know what module to insert?
[07:24] <Tixer> without using the space bar
[07:25] <el_isma> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20254
[07:25] <Tonren> |thunder: OK, what have you done so far?
[07:25] <Tixer> anyone?
[07:25] <{K}Lubby> okay, ubuntu is installing
[07:25] <Tonren> Tixer: copy & paste one
[07:25] <mikeg> sethk: im not sure what module to insert. i just want my SATA drive to be detected
[07:25] <Tixer> is there some numerical code to type?
[07:25] <Tonren> Tixer: here: " "
[07:25] <Tonren> Tixer: Highlight the apce, Ctrl + C to copy, enter terminal, Ctrl + Shift + V to paste
[07:25] <Tixer> I can't copy it from windows to ubuntu
[07:25] <CheetahMk2> If I have to recompile the kernel, do I need the full source, or do I just need the headers?
[07:25] <Tonren> Tixer: eep
[07:25] <azureal> actually, i'm not sure where you can change the directory you are presented with when you start bash =/
[07:25] <byen> sethk, can you see this and tell me if this is ok? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20255
[07:25] <Tixer> ubuntu = virtual
[07:25] <sethk> el_isma, the default route destination is br0 instead of eth0.  try deleting that route and adding the original route
[07:26] <sethk> byen, looking
[07:26] <byen> ty sethk :D
[07:26] <el_isma> sethk: ok. Should I have br0 with dhclient? or eth0? or both?
[07:26] <Tonren> Tixer: Why can't you use the space bar?
[07:26] <sethk> byen, your home directory is correct, it is set to /home/byen
[07:26] <mitch_> mikeg, did you do lspci to determin SATA controller?
[07:26] <sethk> byen, why do you think it isn't starting you there?  did you do   pwd    at the prompt after starting the terminal?
[07:26] <Tonren> mtich_: It didn't show up for him.
[07:27] <Tonren> mitch_: I had him do lspci | grep -i "sata" and nothing showed up
[07:27] <Tixer> I spilt milk on it
[07:27] <Tonren> Tixer: lol, that sux... hmmmm
[07:27] <Tixer> while watching anime
[07:27] <Tixer> ascii codes don't work in linux
[07:27] <Pyromaniak> how do I change the <Applications> icon? I prefer blue stuff, and I'd like use the kubuntu icon
[07:27] <mikeg> mitch_: wait i'll try it again.. thanks
[07:27] <byen> sethk, this happened when i typed this into the terminsl
[07:27] <byen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20255
[07:27] <byen> no no
[07:27] <byen> wait
[07:27] <mikeg> Tonren: thanks tonren i'll be back
[07:27] <byen> sethk, i typed this ftp://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/development/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/redhat-artwork-0.245-1.fc6.i386.rpm
[07:28] <byen> and after that it changed
[07:28] <RancidLM> hey im trying to install paralles workstation.. but its using the wrong gcc version when compiling my kernel module.. (its using 3.4) how do i set it to use gcc-4.0  iv tried : set CC=gcc-4.0   but that doesn't work.. suggestions?
[07:28] <Tixer> please tell me I'm not fucked
[07:28] <sethk> byen, that's a fedora (== red hat) package.
[07:28] <Tonren> |thunder: you there?
[07:28] <Tixer> I really wanna boot
[07:28] <{K}Lubby> about how long does ubuntu take to install on a computer?
[07:28] <sethk> byen, you typed that where?
[07:28] <|thunder> Tonren, YA, SORRY
[07:28] <Tixer> isn't there some command for an OSK?
[07:28] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: half an hour, i guess?
[07:29] <el_isma> {K}Lubby depends on hardware
[07:29] <|thunder> Tonren, whoops, didnt mean to yell
[07:29] <Tonren> |thunder: What've ou done so far
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> heh, ownage
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> windows xp takes like 1-2 hours to install
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> and this is on a 800mhz celeron with 512mb ram
[07:29] <el_isma> {K}Lubby then you've got a slow HD
[07:29] <jack|ass> Any of you set up a dial-up (modem) server with ubuntu?  Is there a package that'll do most of the setup work for my lazy ass?
[07:29] <|thunder> i just realized there is a graphical installer for ndiswrapper. ndisgtk
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> ....yeah...
[07:29] <Tixer> blargh.
[07:29] <{K}Lubby> im just guessing at 1-2 hours
[07:29] <el_isma> {K}Lubby well... it's mostly that... the speed of you HD....
[07:29] <Tixer> I require a space bar
[07:30] <{K}Lubby> yeah
[07:30] <AngryElf> i really dont mean to complain -- but why have the ubuntu package servers been so incredibly slow as of late?
[07:30] <{K}Lubby> meh, it says 7 minutes remaing
[07:30] <byen> sethk, in the terminalk
[07:30] <el_isma> Try using a mirror, AngryElf
[07:30] <|thunder> Tonren, im going to give this a shot.
[07:30] <sethk> AngryElf, everyone in the world is trying to update at the same time
[07:30] <azureal> Tixer: rofl
[07:30] <RancidLM> any idea's any one?
[07:30] <Tixer> isn't there an on screen keyboard in ubuntu?
[07:30] <el_isma> sethk: Should I have br0 with dhclient? or eth0? or both?
[07:30] <Pyromaniak> Tonren: is there a basic "everything you ever wanted to know about ubuntu, but didn't know the questions to ask" kinda guide?
[07:30] <sethk> byen, that wouldn't really do anything typed into a terminal
[07:30] <Tonren> |thunder: ndiswrapper -i "somefile.inf" installed the wireless driver associated with that .inf file
[07:30] <AngryElf> what's a mirror for security.ubuntu.com?
[07:30] <|thunder> Tonren, i jsut have the windows driver and im installing ndis from the ubuntu CD. well trying to. the apt-cd dialog didnt pop-up
[07:31] <azureal> Tixer: you do realize how this sounds? spilling "milk" while watching "anime"
[07:31] <Tixer> I do
[07:31] <Tixer> I was eating fucking cheerios
[07:31] <jrojas> hi, i need record a video from my desktop, what is the linux alternative to "Camtasia Studio" ? :S
[07:31] <sethk> el_isma, not with dhclient.  I wanted to just try setting the route, to see if you get internet back
[07:31] <{K}Lubby> azureal: shut up?
[07:31] <Tonren> Pyromaniak: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ also maybe http://tips.linux.com/tips/06/06/08/1651225.shtml?tid=50&tid=92&tid=96
[07:31] <{K}Lubby> lol
[07:31] <|thunder> Tonren, im sorry. im asking questions that i out not. i just need to read.
[07:31] <sethk> el_isma, I don't want to reconfigure anything else, otherwise we won't know what caused what
[07:31] <el_isma> sethk ok, so I don't do a dhclient for any interface?
[07:31] <Tixer> theres gotta be an alt code for ubuntu
[07:31] <Tixer> or an OSK
[07:32] <sethk> byen, and, especially, that wouldn't change anything that would happen if you start a new terminal
[07:32] <azureal> lol tixer...how are you making spaces atm?
[07:32] <sethk> byen, just typing a url at the terminal prompt should do exactly nothing.
[07:32] <HeXiOn> helo
[07:32] <HeXiOn> hello
[07:32] <{K}Lubby> hi
[07:32] <{K}Lubby> hi
[07:32] <Tonren> |thunder: Are you using the Live CD or is it installed?
[07:32] <HeXiOn> :P
[07:32] <|thunder> Tonren, installed.
[07:32] <HeXiOn> I need to run a program as a daemon
[07:32] <azureal> tixer: what might suck is if you need to install a package, but you won't be able to type "apt-get install" because there's a space lol
[07:32] <HeXiOn> how can I do it?
[07:32] <xyblor> Hi, how do I get the automounter to run during the boot sequence?
[07:33] <HeXiOn> (it's irxevent, a part or LIRC)
[07:33] <Tixer> I am
[07:33] <Tixer> I copy/paste em in
[07:33] <Tonren> |thunder: The idea here is to install ndiswrapper, which is a utility that takes windows (native) drivers and plugs them into Linux
[07:33] <xelados> okay sweet, I figured out xset. How do I make my changes stick to Xorg?
[07:33] <Tixer> I can copy a space once I'm in ubuntu
[07:33] <Tixer> I'm at the login now
[07:34] <Tonren> |thunder: Once you have ndiswraper, you get the drivers that match your wireless card, and then you install them using the ndiswrapper -i command
[07:34] <Tixer> and I can't copy from terminal
[07:34] <xyblor> I already configured the files, I just need automount to run at boot time.
[07:34] <|thunder> 74107410
[07:34] <Tonren> |thunder: ??
[07:34] <hubba42> hey, can anyone help me out with a parted problem?
[07:34] <|thunder> sry, thought i was in calc
[07:34] <sethk> xelados, there is a file you can add them to, I believe it is .xinitrc, but let me check
[07:35] <xelados> okay, thanks.
[07:35] <azureal> Tixer: look into gtkeyboard
[07:35] <Dravas> Uhh I have Intergrated nVidia graphics and I was wondering if I should install the nvidia drivers and switch to them
[07:35] <HeXiOn> does someone know how to run a executable as a daemon? (or just re-execute it automaticly when it crashes)
[07:35] <Tixer> holy shit
[07:35] <|thunder> Tonren, i have to move the driver over with a flash drive. it'll take a sec
[07:35] <xyblor> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent to Gentoo's rc-update?
[07:35] <Tixer> I can't run gtkeyboard till I'm logged in
[07:35] <Tonren> xyblor: what's rc-update do?
[07:36] <Pntkl> private
[07:36] <Tonren> HeXiOn: are you in GNOME?
[07:36] <azureal> Tixer: er, it also might not be installed yet either
[07:36] <cafuego> xyblor:  update-rc.d
[07:36] <Tixer> there you go
[07:36] <HeXiOn> xyblor, I think not, I was looking for it last week
[07:36] <Tixer> how can I install it without being logged in
[07:36] <HeXiOn> Tonren, yes I am
[07:36] <Tonren> HeXiOn: if so, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[07:36] <azureal> what do you mean, logged in?
[07:36] <cafuego> You'll find rc-update is the equivalent, not the other way around ;-)
[07:36] <xyblor> cfuego: Thank you!
[07:36] <Tixer> I can't do sudo apt-get
[07:36] <azureal> you can't?
[07:37] <Tonren> HeXiOn: Then go to the Current Session tab, select the application that is currently open, and change the "Style" dropdown to "Restart"
[07:37] <byen> sethk, that is all i did mate and now i am stuck withthis.. i dont even know where to start or if this really effect the system in anywys
[07:37] <azureal> Tixer: maybe you could "su" then?
[07:37] <Dravas> Uhh I have Intergrated nVidia graphics and I was wondering if I should install the nvidia drivers and switch to them
[07:37] <Tonren> HeXiOn: don't forget to Apply before you hit OK
[07:37] <sethk> Dravas, not unless something isn't working the way you want it to
[07:37] <Dravas> ok
[07:38] <Tixer> I can't SU
[07:38] <HeXiOn> Tonren, but that affects to the current session... if I restart the program doesn't restart if it crashes.. do it?
[07:38] <Tixer> to login, I just need to type mkdir /home/user
[07:38] <|thunder> Tonren, does modprobe need any parameters after install of ndiswrawpper with synaptic?
[07:38] <hubba42> has anyone used parted to partition a disk to only have it not show up in fdisk?  anyone know how to fix that?  im trying to install linux manually from a live cd and lilo freaks out when it sees the partition map that fdisk uses
[07:39] <pushpop> For a New User like my self to the Ubuntu world, How would I learn or correct my xorg.conf because I am unable to startX ?
[07:39] <Tonren> HeXiOn: I'm not sure how it handles CRASHes... but changing it to "Restart" Is supposed to make sure it always runs
[07:39] <Tonren> HeXiOn: also you might want to look into the "daemon" package
[07:39] <Tonren> !info daemon
[07:39] <el_isma> sethk: Ok. Now I'm officially frustrated :'(
[07:39] <HeXiOn> Tonren, even after rebooting? changes the "mode" of that exec. between sessions?
[07:39] <ubotu> daemon: turns other processes into daemons. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (dapper), package size 97 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:40] <{K}Lubby> can someone give me a link to where i download all the free ubuntu programs?
[07:40] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: apt-cache search <insert-name-of-application-here>
[07:40] <hubba42> spt-get install your-mom
[07:40] <Tonren> HeXiOn: It should, yes.  When you save a session, it stays that way forever
[07:40] <el_isma> {K}Lubby: use synaptic / aptitude / adept
[07:40] <{K}Lubby> Tonren: i thought it was a website?
[07:40] <el_isma> you pick :P
[07:40] <HeXiOn> Tonren, ok, I'll try the first and late look into daemon package
[07:40] <lxe> ubuntu-forums is a good place for apps
[07:40] <HeXiOn> Tonren, thanks a lot :)
[07:40] <{K}Lubby> somewhere on linux.org...
[07:41] <pushpop> For a New User like my self to the Ubuntu world, How would I learn or correct my xorg.conf because I am unable to startX ?
[07:41] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: nah, use Synaptic
[07:41] <lxe> you can ask us for advice on any particular application
[07:41] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: Go to Applications -> Add / Remove Programs
[07:41] <{K}Lubby> okay why?
[07:41] <Tonren> HeXiOn: good luck!
[07:41] <xelados> Ack.
[07:41] <HeXiOn> thanks ;) bye
[07:41] <el_isma> Tonren: I agree, synaptic is the best one... :) (even though I run kde)
[07:41] <xelados> X-chat's being weird.
[07:41] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: It's a list of thousands of free programs that you can install just by checking them off
[07:41] <odat> pushpop, terminal    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:41] <{K}Lubby> oh
[07:41] <Tonren> el_isma: I never use the GUI, myself
[07:41] <xelados> Tab doesn't autocomplete nicks
[07:41] <xelados> :<
[07:41] <{K}Lubby> is it the same as the ones at www.linux.org/apps/ ?
[07:41] <pushpop> odat: Just type that command?
[07:42] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: probably not, but it's pretty huge anyway
[07:42] <Oswyn> can anyone point me to a document describing how ubuntus hardware detection works?
[07:42] <el_isma> Tonren: don't you like aptitude? It even has games XD
[07:42] <odat> pushpop, sudo first
[07:42] <Tonren> el_isma: hehe no doubt
[07:42] <{K}Lubby> sweet
[07:42] <Pyromaniak> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/firestarter/.wine'...
[07:42] <Pyromaniak> wine: cannot find 'rundll32.exe'
[07:42] <Pyromaniak> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/firestarter/.wine'.
[07:42] <odat> is the .1 update available through synaptic?
[07:42] <{K}Lubby> and does ubuntu need stuff like antivirus?
[07:42] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: lol, nope
[07:42] <pushpop> odat: new install how do I set a password for sudo/root
[07:42] <{K}Lubby> didn't think so ;O
[07:42] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: There might be.. three viruses in existence for linux.  ever.  MAYBE.
[07:42] <sanmarcos> can anybody print me the /etc/issue here?
[07:42] <sanmarcos> default
[07:42] <{K}Lubby> cause my friend is always bragging to me about how his stupid mac is immune to viruses
[07:43] <odat> pushpop, you set it during installation
[07:43] <Tixer> w00000t
[07:43] <Tixer> success
[07:43] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: trust me dude, you are now more immune
[07:43] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: immuner, if you will
[07:43] <{K}Lubby> Tonren: yeah i figured :lol: hackers only target noob xp users
[07:43] <pushpop> odat: ? I created a user?
[07:43] <Tonren> Tixer: how'd you do it?
[07:43] <Tixer> I have logged in!
[07:43] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: it is, but slightly less so that Linux (viruses for Office on Mac don't work on Linux ;-)
[07:43] <azureal> {K}Lubby, haha... i have a friend just like that
[07:43] <pushpop> odat: thats all
[07:43] <{K}Lubby> i'm now more immuner? lol thats a good one
[07:43] <Tixer> copied a space from the font change thing
[07:43] <odat> pushpop, same password
[07:43] <toxicfume> hi all
[07:43] <Tonren> Tixer: rofl... resourceful
[07:43] <el_isma> {K}Lubby: Indeed, only if you run unknown programs as root you'll have trouble... otherwise, you're pretty safe
[07:43] <odat> anyone know about the .1 update?
[07:43] <Tixer> thanks to that stupid brown fox....
[07:44] <{K}Lubby> also, is it hard to find stuff like limewire and other windows programs for ubuntu?
[07:44] <toxicfume> can someone please help me with partitioning? I already have ubuntu installed on a 3GB partition, but now I guess I need more capacity and i've tried increasing the capacity but it just wont work, can someone please help me? thanks
[07:44] <azureal> hopeless...
[07:44] <lxe> sudo apt-get install limewire
[07:44] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: wine MIGHT run them, I don't know about filesahre apps myself since I just use bittorrent
[07:44] <Tonren> lxe: no way, it's native?  sweet
[07:45] <lxe> well try it
[07:45] <azureal> ubuntu, or linux in general  != windows
[07:45] <{K}Lubby> so wine is a program that makes windows programs run on linux?
[07:45] <Tixer> sometimes
[07:45] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: It's a program that ATTEMPTS to do so
[07:45] <{K}Lubby> well yeah
[07:45] <Tixer> basic programs work best
[07:45] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: sometimes works, often does not
[07:45] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: there's 'amule'  for the edonkey network and azureus for bittorrent. Dunno about limewire... people still use that?
[07:45] <{K}Lubby> does it come with it, or do i have to download it?
[07:45] <lxe> nevermind
[07:45] <azureal> {K}Lubby,  search for different solutions; usually they work better ;)
[07:45] <lxe> no limewire
[07:45] <lumgwada> toxicfume: I know it help to run a scandisk on your windows partition before resizing helps
[07:45] <sanmarcos> can anybody print me your /etc/issue file for me?
[07:45] <odat> {K}Lubby, i use frostwire
[07:45] <{K}Lubby> cafuego: ROFL limewire is only like the most popular windows xp file sharing program
[07:46] <Tonren> sanmarcos: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[07:46] <{K}Lubby> and i was just using it as an example, idc about it since i still have my main computer (brand new i might add)
[07:46] <sanmarcos> Tonren, thank you sir
[07:46] <toxicfume> lumgwada: I need more critical help than that :P but thanks ! :)
[07:46] <xelados> frostwire can be downloaded for Linux.
[07:46] <Tixer> cause alot of n00bs use it
[07:46] <xelados> I couldn't get it to install, though.
[07:46] <{K}Lubby> its not even a month old :D
[07:46] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Hmmyeah, I don't share files much. (only Ubuntu packages,and they're free anyway)
[07:46] <azureal> {K}Lubby,  yay, a month old computer that is beginning to take on viruses!
[07:47] <aeread> im trying to mv a bunch of .folders from my backup into my home, but its saying it cant overwrite some of them ... ive tried -f to force it ... any tips?
[07:47] <sethk> toxicfume, rather than trying to expand your partition, just created an additional partition to give yourself more space
[07:47] <odat> does anyone know about the .1 update?
[07:47] <Tonren> aeread: what about sudo?
[07:47] <{K}Lubby> heh, ubuntu's done installing already
[07:47] <el_isma2> sethk: Well... I give up... the bridge beat me :(
[07:47] <aeread> im am
[07:47] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Ah, limewire is a gnutella client; year, there are Linux apps for that network.
[07:47] <aeread> err wait
[07:47] <azureal> {K}Lubby, yea, ubuntu install is like 9x faster than gentoo install
[07:47] <pushpop> odat: I did that now I get (EE) No Devices Detected ?
[07:48] <lxe> try torrent clients
[07:48] <aeread> im not, ill try
[07:48] <sethk> el_isma2, I'll have to look more carefully at what the bridge program does at the lower levels
[07:48] <lxe> or amule
[07:48] <toxicfume> sethk: but that wont always work too well, because over time in linux u need a lot of system files which are best to install in the root partition no?
[07:48] <el_isma2> sethk: Thank you very much for all your help
[07:48] <odat> cafuego, frostwire is the best   it looks just like limewire   with all the limewire pro features
[07:48] <rellim> anyone here know how the cherokee web server stacks up to apache?
[07:48] <{K}Lubby> is limewire pro any good?
[07:48] <lumgwada> toxicfume: sorry for being vague I had a similar issue a while back with partitioning that was resolved with a scandisk
[07:48] <odat> pushpop, do you know anything about your computer?
[07:48] <toxicfume> lumgwada: ohh okay
[07:48] <aeread> Tonren: even as root it doesnt work
[07:48] <sethk> toxicfume, in general that's probably true.  you can get around it with symlinks, or with the system that aggregates physical partitions into virtual partitions
[07:49] <pushpop> odat: yes, I selected my video card and monitor settings
[07:49] <Tonren> aeread: paste exact error plz
[07:49] <sethk> toxicfume, trying to modify partitions in place is risky and doesn't always work.
[07:49] <cafuego> odat: Like I said, I need no filesharing apps.
[07:49] <odat> pushpop, for montor setting what did you use  the simple selection?
[07:49] <sethk> toxicfume, of course, you can back up the partition, create a new, larger one, and restore to it.
[07:49] <aeread> "mv: cannot overwrite directory '/home/bung/.confg'" etc...
[07:49] <lxe> sudo mv?
[07:49] <pushpop> odat: it autodetected the correct model monitor
[07:50] <toxicfume> The problem I'm having with my ubuntu partition is that I already have some unallocated space on my darive, but for some reason i cannot increase the capacity of the Ubuntu partition using that unallocated space, i dont understand why. The partitioning program simply doesn't give me that option.
[07:50] <aeread> lxe, i happen to be root
[07:50] <sethk> aeread, you can't use mv to clobber a read only file even if you happen to be root
[07:50] <odat> pushpop, yea but when it asked for a resolution setting like 15, 17 or 19 inch monitor
[07:50] <sethk> aeread, you can use cp, then delete the original one
[07:50] <lxe> oh my bad
[07:50] <lxe> chmod it?
[07:50] <pushpop> odat: dont recall ill try again
[07:50] <sethk> aeread, or, you can rm the file before trying the mv  (remove the file by the same name in the target directory)
[07:50] <toxicfume> sethk: but then i would have to configure GRUB and everything again no?
[07:50] <{K}Lubby> heh nice, ubuntu basically has two passwords since it doesnt show your username like windows does
[07:50] <aeread> sethk: there are alot, i dont want to remove
[07:50] <aeread> but ill try to cp
[07:51] <sethk> toxicfume, no, as long as the designation of the /boot directory hasn't changed
[07:51] <el_isma2> Anybody knows how to make energy saving play nice? When I'm watching a movie I'd hope the monitor would stay on! I have to go to the control panel and disable it. (Running KDE... maybe this is not the place?)
[07:51] <aeread> thanks cp works
[07:51] <sethk> aeread, cp -f will work.  Of course, I'm assuming you know that it is safe to clobber all these things.  :)
[07:51] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Not by default anyway.
[07:51] <azureal> {K}Lubby, you could make windows not show usernames either....
[07:51] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: You *can* make it list users accounts on the login screen.
[07:51] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: you can configure ubuntu to display usernames
[07:51] <{K}Lubby> oh well doesnt matter
[07:51] <{K}Lubby> i like it this way lol
[07:51] <toxicfume> sethk: designation of /boot? what does that mean?
[07:52] <pushpop> odat: ok chose 19" now its saying "No Screens Found"
[07:52] <Pyromaniak> is the 0.9.18 version of wine really that bad compared to the current?
[07:52] <{K}Lubby> and a pass to do "admin tasks"
[07:52] <Tonren> Pyromaniak: I though that was current
[07:52] <pushpop> odat: Fatal IO error  104
[07:52] <sethk> toxicfume, if your /boot is currently in /dev/hda1, for example, and you back up, create a new partition that is /dev/hda1, and restore to it, nothing in grub will need to be changed
[07:52] <Pyromaniak> their website sais 0.9.19
[07:52] <odat> pushpop, how are you doing any commands if you can't see anything?
[07:52] <eugman> ANyone know how to erase alpha from a layer in gimp?
[07:52] <{K}Lubby> NOOO
[07:52] <sethk> toxicfume, the fact that /dev/hda1 is now a different size won't matter
[07:52] <azureal> i actually don't like ubuntu's whole !root system
[07:52] <Tonren> eugman: wrong channel
[07:53] <{K}Lubby> im still having that beeping problem with setting up the LAN
[07:53] <pushpop> odat: I run  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it brings up the screens where I can choose settings?
[07:53] <sethk> toxicfume, on the other hand, if you moved stuff around so that /boot was on /dev/hda1, and is now on /dev/hda2 (for example), that would require changes to the grub config
[07:53] <toxicfume> sethk: I'm pretty comfortable with partition (i've done a lot of it) and i'm confident it wont screw up. But the only problem I'm having with my ubuntu partition is that I already have some unallocated space on my darive, but for some reason i cannot increase the capacity of the Ubuntu partition using that unallocated space, i dont understand why. The partitioning program simply doesn't give me that option.
[07:53] <toxicfume> sethk: ohh okay
[07:53] <eugman> Tonren, worth a shot. Gimp channel is dead and I'm running gimp off of ubuntu.
[07:53] <odat> pushpop, do you have multiple video connections?
[07:53] <Tonren> eugman: fair enough; someone had to say it. ;P
[07:53] <KrisW> I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade and it seems like I'm still in breezy, how do I tell if the upgrade worked?
[07:53] <{K}Lubby> okay, can someone give me some help?
[07:53] <visik7> Pyromaniak: what's the problem with wine 0.9.18 ?
[07:54] <eugman> In that case, anyone know how to switch channel view in irssi?
[07:54] <lxe> {K}Lubby: what
[07:54] <sethk> toxicfume, the partitioning program can't increase the size of an existing partition.  there are other programs that can, however.  gparted is one that people recommend
[07:54] <pushpop> odat: I have a X800gto2 It has DVI and Svideo
[07:54] <{K}Lubby> lxe: figuring out what's wrong with this thign
[07:54] <el_isma2> KrisW: reboot? I don't really know
[07:54] <pushpop> Odat: I just have the VGA from the monitor plugged in
[07:54] <KrisW> yeah I rebooted
[07:54] <odat> pushpop, sounds like you have the monitor plugged in the wrong port
[07:54] <lxe> {K}Lubby: sorry, enter key was in the way. Wht's your issue again?
[07:54] <KrisW> that's why I'm confused
[07:54] <{K}Lubby> hey tonren or sethk, wanna try helping me again now that i have ubuntu installed and it's still got the same problem?
[07:54] <toxicfume> sethk: no this program i am using usually can..but i dont know why, for this partition it does not give me the option (nor the reason)
[07:54] <xelados> sethk: Any luck finding that .xinitrc?
[07:54] <KrisW> I thought something would happen heh
[07:54] <pushpop> odat: Its in the VGA port?
[07:54] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: what was the prob?
[07:54] <lxe> yes
[07:54] <el_isma2> KrisW: if you reboot, it should show you the new kernel (Ie: a linuxOLD entry or something like that)
[07:55] <sethk> toxicfume, I don't know, either, unless there is something about the layout of the existing partitions
[07:55] <pushpop> odat: I know how to plug a monitor in =)
[07:55] <el_isma2> KrisW: I meant, it should show you the new kernel and the old one
[07:55] <{K}Lubby> Tonren: remember, it wouldn't let me modify my static ip settings so i could connect my ubuntu to my xp
[07:55] <lumgwada> toxicfume: are you using qtparted?
[07:55] <mikeg> sethk: hi sethk i have made the commands already the lspci | grep-i "sata" and it return IDE Technologies, In.c VT8251 AHCI/SATA 4-port controller
[07:55] <sethk> toxicfume, I don't know what program you are using.  None of the linux partitioning programs allow resizing partitions.
[07:55] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: snap.. sorry dude, i'm like braindead right now.  you'll have to hunt for another helper
[07:55] <{K}Lubby> with the "could not enable the interface eth0" error when i try to activate it
[07:55] <KrisW> el
[07:55] <{K}Lubby> sethk could you try helping me? (or anyone else smart ;O)
[07:55] <Tonren> {K}Lubby: while you wait for help in here, use google, / wiki.ubuntu.com / ubuntuforums.org
[07:55] <KrisW> el_isma, I didn't see anyting like that
[07:55] <toxicfume> sethk: i guess that's where it's at, the layout of the existing partition, but i just dont know how to correct that.
[07:55] <sethk> mikeg, ok, first question is, does the kernel have support for that chipset
[07:56] <mikeg> sethk: what will i do next , after i have determined the controller
[07:56] <odat> pushpop, better check because you prolly have two spots you could plug into
[07:56] <lxe> {K}Lubby: did you try network-admin?
[07:56] <toxicfume> sethk: I'm using a program in windows xp actually (i'm aware of the fact that i might have to update grub after the partitioning in windows is finished)
[07:56] <el_isma2> KrisW: that's weird... I think that when you upgrade the old kernel still shows up
[07:56] <{K}Lubby> yeah lxe, that's the only thing i've tried (or know to try... im a complete ubuntu noob)
[07:56] <mikeg> sethk: how to know if this chipset r supported?
[07:56] <sethk> mikeg, we need to find the name of the kernel module that supports that chipset (if it exists)
[07:56] <el_isma2> lxe: where's network-admin?
[07:56] <KrisW> el_isma, there's a good possibility that I just don't know what I'm looking for
[07:56] <pushpop> odat: the blue VGA cable is plugged into the blue VGA port on the video card.
[07:56] <lxe> {K}Lubby : and what happened after?
[07:57] <mikeg> sethk:  how to find the kernel module then?
[07:57] <sethk> mikeg, I would start by looking in the Documentation subdirectory of the kernel source tree.  a google search is also sometimes helpful.
[07:57] <KrisW> well, I tried apt-get dist-upgrade again and it picked up where it left off
[07:57] <lxe> el_isma2: just type in network-admin
[07:57] <KrisW> so maybe it didn't finish last time
[07:57] <Tonren> i've gotta run, folks
[07:57] <Tonren> g'night all
[07:57] <KrisW> last time it timed out on samba-common
[07:57] <mikeg> sethk: actually i havent installed yet ubuntu in my box.
[07:57] <ricperry-ubuntu-> does anyone know of a way to install XAMPP (LAMPP) after installing Ubuntu Desktop 6.06?
[07:57] <KrisW> so maybe the time-out caused it to not upgrade?
[07:57] <odat> pushpop, the reason i am saying this is because if you have a add in video card then your probably have two different ports you monitor could go into too
[07:57] <{K}Lubby> lxe: i click the ethernet connection, hit properties, choose static ip, put in the settings i need for it to connect to my windows xp computer using crossover ethernet cable, hit okay, then hit the activate button *ping* then the error comes up
[07:58] <pushpop> odat: the X800 is PCI Express, is PCI:1:0:0 the right identifier for PCI express?
[07:58] <el_isma2> KrisW maybe
[07:58] <mikeg> sethk:  ihave an amd 64 processor, with new specs hardware..
[07:58] <el_isma2> KrisW I think that if it can't download all needed packages, it does nothing
[07:58] <lxe> {K}Lubby: try ifconfig and see what it says
[07:58] <{K}Lubby> lxe: the error says this "could not enable the interface eth0. check that the settings are correct for the network and that the computer is correctly connected to it."
[07:58] <sethk> mikeg, the number 8251 doesn't occur in the kernel doc directory, which is discouraging.  it might be there with a different name or number, though.
[07:58] <el_isma2> ricperry-ubuntu- Have you searched the wiki? I think there was something about LAMP there
[07:59] <sethk> mikeg, that hardware might well be a bit ahead of the kernel.
[07:59] <josie> i'm having trouble configuring my soundcard
[07:59] <{K}Lubby> lxe, do you want me to copy and past what ifconfig says, transfer it to my other computer with a flash drive or something, and put it on the internet for you to see?
[07:59] <sethk> mike-e, I checked <IP_ADDRESS>.  that's not the latest, so there is still hope.
[07:59] <josie> i've got two, and they both appear in gnome-sound-properties
[07:59] <CVirus> guys I enabled backports and apt-get still wants to fetch an old version of wine .. what could be wrong ?
[07:59] <odat> pushpop, that should be fine
[07:59] <josie> but when i change cards in the dropdown, and hit close, and open it up again, it's back at the default
[08:00] <el_isma2> KrisW: To know which kernel are you running, do a "cat /proc/version". Dapper has 2.6.15.
[08:00] <josie> anything i'm missing?
[08:00] <{K}Lubby> lxe: do you want me to copy and past what ifconfig says, transfer it to my other computer with a flash drive or something, and put it on the internet for you to see?
[08:00] <el_isma2> CVirus have you enabled the "official" wine rep?
[08:00] <pushpop> odat: wanna ssh in hhaha
[08:00] <sethk> mike-e, I'm downloading <IP_ADDRESS>, but it is a 39 meg download so it will take a while
[08:00] <CVirus> el_isma2: nope .. what is that ?
[08:00] <lxe> {K}Lubby: no, bt does it state the correct ip addresses? or just the error message?
[08:01] <el_isma2> CVirus: Add: "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" to your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[08:01] <mikeg> sethk: what to do next if i have known the kernel?
[08:01] <{K}Lubby> lxe: err.... where does it state the correct ip address, and what is the error message?
[08:01] <CVirus> el_isma2: why would I do that ? isnt wine in universe backports ?
[08:01] <ricperry-ubuntu-> el_isma2, I've seen the stuff about LAMP, but I'm looking for an easier way.  I figured since XAMPP comes in the server distro it should be pretty easy, but on the server disk, I can't find a .deb that installs it.  For that matter, I can't even find XAMPP on the server disk.  It's just an option at install time.
[08:01] <lxe> {K}Lubby: and try every option, even using dhcp on network-admin
[08:01] <toxicfume> sethk: okay lets say i copy my entire / from my current partition to a new/bigger partition..how do I make it so that the new partition will also be /dev/hda4 (which it is right now)?
[08:01] <el_isma2> CVirus then do: apt-get update, or just go to synaptic or whatever you use and refresh
[08:02] <el_isma2> CVirus: I think the latest ones are there...
[08:02] <sethk> mikeg, if we find a kernel module that supports that chipset, we would use it in a modprobe command to load it.
[08:02] <{K}Lubby> lxe: i've tried dhcp, but no go, cause dhcp needs a dhcp server... and my xp computer doesnt have one
[08:02] <mikeg> ahh ok
[08:02] <CVirus> el_isma2: isnt the latest wine in universe backports ?
[08:02] <el_isma2> CVirus I don't know. Which version is there?
[08:03] <lxe> {K}Lubby: were you able to connect to the network with ubuntu before?
[08:03] <CVirus> el_isma2: no idea ... apt-get is fetching the universe version 0.9.9 ... not the universe backports one
[08:03] <CVirus> el_isma: I need the universe backports one
[08:03] <josie> anyone have any idea how to set the default sound card?
[08:03] <{K}Lubby> lxe: no, but i got it to work on the same computer when it had windows xp on it
[08:03] <farous> el_isma: el_naseeb
[08:03] <el_isma> CVirus I've got 0.9.18 from wineHq
[08:03] <farous> :)
[08:03] <el_isma> farous: sorry, what?
[08:04] <CVirus> el_isma: it seems that you dont get my point ... why isnt it in universe backports
[08:04] <lxe> {K}Lubby: and your gateway computer is running windows xp?
[08:04] <farous> el_isma: oh sorry that is a popular sayin in my country. one say il esma the other say il naseeb sorry about that
[08:04] <el_isma> CVirus I don't know... Why don't you just add that rep?
[08:04] <{K}Lubby> lxe: yes it is, windows xp home
[08:04] <el_isma> farous: What does it mean?
[08:05] <CVirus> el_isma: I dont use except main restricted universe and multiverse
[08:05] <thedcm> how two i instal programs
[08:05] <KrisW> woot it seems to have finished this time, it's prompting me for some questions it didn't ask before
[08:05] <farous> el_isma: roughly translated both mean destiny
[08:05] <el_isma> CVirus ok... Apt always shows the latest available... did you do an update?
[08:05] <ricperry-ubuntu-> josie, to set the default sound card, System -> Administration -> Ubuntu Control Center -> Sound (should be in the Hardware tab).  Then simply change the default sound card with the bottom drop-down list.
[08:06] <el_isma> farous: what language is that?
[08:06] <CVirus> el_isma: yes sure
[08:06] <nicholas_paul> Q: Whats the diff between 'text mode' and 'OEM mode' in the installation?
[08:06] <{K}Lubby> lxe: hold on, im uploading the pic of what ifconfig comes up with...
[08:06] <Madpilot> thedcm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:06] <el_isma> CVirus Then, probably, that's the latest version on the ubuntu repositories...
[08:06] <farous> el_isma: the mother language of name starting with el arabic. Will stop now for i know better that this is offtopic :)
[08:06] <lxe> {K}Lubby: ok thanks. does windows xp machine run some kind of wins proxy, or other weird stuff?
[08:06] <{K}Lubby> not that i know of
[08:07] <el_isma> farous: yeah, you're right. Anyway, interesting to know :)
[08:07] <farous> :)
[08:07] <{K}Lubby> it has a wireless internet receiver hooked up to router hooked up to modem hooked up to dsl though
[08:07] <{K}Lubby> lxe: ^ that's my internet connection
[08:07] <{K}Lubby> lxe: oh and here's the link to the pic http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7136/ifconfigresultseb2.png
[08:08] <pushpop> For a New User like my self to the Ubuntu world, How would I learn or correct my xorg.conf because I am unable to startX ?  I get an Error "No Screens Found" and its detect my model monitor?
[08:08] <{K}Lubby> pushpop: no clue, im a ubuntu noob too lol
[08:08] <farous> pushpop: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:09] <pushpop> farous: tried that serveral times, and I get the same error each time
[08:09] <{K}Lubby> lxe: you making any sense out of that pic?
[08:09] <lxe> K}Lubby: lspci | grep Eth
[08:09] <farous> what is your error
[08:09] <farous> and what part do nto work is it the graphic card
[08:09] <{K}Lubby> lxe: what's lspci | grep Eth?
[08:10] <pushpop> farous: (EE) No devices Detected  Fatal Error No Screens found
[08:10] <lxe> {K}Lubby: type it in and see what is says
[08:10] <farous> pushpop: then you selected the wrong driver for your graphic card
[08:10] <{K}Lubby> okay
[08:10] <farous> pushpop: do you know what card you have
[08:10] <pushpop> farous: x800
[08:10] <lxe> {K}Lubby: like 'Ethernet Controller ... blah blah"
[08:10] <pushpop> farous: its shows up as an x850
[08:11] <farous> pushpop: did you select the ati driver when you did the dpkg-reconfigure
[08:11] <PyroManiak> hells yeah! got my game working.. lol
[08:11] <pushpop> farous: it auto fills the ati x850
[08:11] <{K}Lubby> lxe: "ethernet controller: intel corporation 82557/8/9 [ethernet pro 100]  (rev 01)
[08:11] <lxe> {K}Lubby: the card seems to be working
[08:12] <farous> pushpop: you know how to use the pastebin?
[08:12] <{K}Lubby> lxe: yeah
[08:12] <{K}Lubby> lxe: just for grins, should i try another ethernet card?
[08:12] <farous> !pastebin > pushpop
[08:12] <farous> pushpop: check the pm from ubotu
[08:13] <pushpop> farous: yes but this is on another pc
[08:13] <lxe> {K}Lubby: you can try, but i doubt this is a card or a driver problem
[08:13] <{K}Lubby> lxe: okay, then i won't try right now
[08:13] <{K}Lubby> lxe: what next?
[08:13] <pushpop> farous
[08:13] <farous> pushpop: i need to have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[08:13] <lxe> {K}Lubby: are you sure that you should be <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:13] <pushpop> farous: ok ill ssh in one minutes
[08:13] <farous> ok
[08:13] <{K}Lubby> it needs to be 192.168.0.something-other-than-1
[08:14] <{K}Lubby> something in the same range as the ethernet card on my xp, which is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:14] <pushpop> farous: is ssh enabled by default?
[08:14] <farous> the client not the server yes
[08:14] <farous> for the server install openssh-server package
[08:15] <pushpop> like i said im new to all this
[08:15] <pushpop> what would be the actual command
[08:15] <pushpop> sorry =/
[08:15] <lxe> {K}Lubby: ahh
[08:15] <farous> pushpop: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:15] <{K}Lubby> lxe: does the ahhh mean that you figured out the problem? :P
[08:16] <lxe> {K}Lubby: no it means i have no idea what's going on
[08:16] <mikeg> sethk: do u have any idea how to know my kernel module?
[08:16] <{K}Lubby> lxe: YAY if you fix it ill umm... i dunno... ill be happy though
[08:17] <lxe> {K}Lubby:  1. try another card. 2. run dhcp server on windows machine, and if that doesn't work, something's wrong
[08:17] <{K}Lubby> lxe: how do i run dhcp on it?
[08:17] <lxe> {K}Lubby: i donno
[08:17] <{K}Lubby> great
[08:17] <lxe> {K}Lubby: oh when you click "ok" in network-admin, what does the error say?
[08:18] <{K}Lubby> hold on, ill screeny it
[08:18] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: are you using internet connection sharing on the xp machine?
[08:18] <lxe> thanks
[08:18] <{K}Lubby> lxe: its when i have ethernet connection selected and hit activate (or when i hit okay for the static ip settings of the connection if its already activated)
[08:19] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: what does ifconfig eth0 show?
[08:19] <pushpop> farous: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20262
[08:19] <{K}Lubby> verbosoe_: hold on
[08:19] <lxe> {K}Lubby: verbose had a good question about connection sharing
[08:19] <verbose_> does `ifup eth0` work?
[08:19] <farous> pushpop: ok give me sometime to read it
[08:20] <verbose_> i just jumped into this conversation, so sorry if i'm asking stuff that other people have already asked
[08:20] <pushpop> farous: you the man, thanks
[08:20] <lxe> verbose_: I don't thing we tried ifup yet :-p
[08:20] <visik7> anyone here with an r1000 driver ?
[08:20] <verbose_> i just looked at the .png...looks like that's the problem
[08:21] <farous> pushpop: you are using the open-source ati drivers
[08:21] <Necrosan_> How do I disable all the useless crap ubuntu tries to start when it boots?
[08:21] <Necrosan_> Trying to quicken the bootime/disable stuff I don't use
[08:21] <verbose_> Necrosan_: read /etc/init.d/README
[08:21] <Necrosan_> is there an interactive tool of some sort?
[08:21] <Necrosan_> I know how to do it manually
[08:21] <Necrosan_> But I'm feeling lazy tonight
[08:22] <pushpop> farous: i havent install any drivers
[08:22] <pushpop> farous" fresh install
[08:22] <ompaul> Necrosan_, you can install a program called "bum" boot up manager
[08:22] <carthik> What's an easy to use mp3 tag editor that is intuitive to use too?
[08:22] <Necrosan_> Can you vouch for it, ompaul?
[08:22] <lxe> anyway i need to go sleep
[08:23] <farous> pushpop: hmm i can not see any section for files or modules
[08:23] <lxe> LEAVE
[08:23] <farous> pushpop: did you cut those out
[08:23] <{K}Lubby> vebose_: you wanted a screeny of when i do ifconfig eth0 and `ifup eth0`, right?
[08:23] <pushpop> farous: no
[08:23] <Necrosan_> well?
[08:23] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: sure
[08:23] <lxe> damn user commands
[08:23] <{K}Lubby> okay
[08:23] <farous> pushpop: did you use the live cd to install
[08:23] <ompaul> Necrosan_, in so far as you know what you want to turn off and turn it on again yes - obviously if you stop the wrong thing }:->
[08:23] <pushpop> farous: no
[08:23] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: also include `dmesg|grep eth` and `lspci -v` please
[08:23] <pushpop> farous: alternate
[08:24] <{K}Lubby> uhh okay one sec
[08:24] <farous> pushpop: i would just say by the way your horiz and vet sync might be high
[08:24] <Necrosan_> ompaul, Is there a comprehensive list somewhere that lists a good majority of things I can turn off?
[08:24] <{K}Lubby> verbose_: do you want the `'s in there?
[08:24] <pushpop> farous: ok ill try changing
[08:24] <farous> pushpop: looks fine except for the missing font and modules section
[08:24] <carthik> Necrosan_, try searching the HOWTO forum at the ubuntu forums. I remember reading one such some time ago
[08:24] <verbose_> {K}Lubby: either way it should work
[08:24] <{K}Lubby> k
[08:25] <Necrosan_> bum seems pretty awesome
[08:25] <verbose_> i was using them mostly so you'd know where to start and stop the command versus my writing
[08:25] <Necrosan_> I'm really surprised ubuntu is outperforming solaris on this sparc
[08:25] <Necrosan_> Plus I get to use XFS as my FS, what a deal!
[08:25] <farous> pushpop: xserver have been changed a lot lately do not know if this inform is still requ in the xorg.conf file or not
[08:25] <verbose_> is it SMP?
[08:25] <pushpop> no idea
[08:26] <Necrosan_> Do I need powernowd on a sparc64 machine?
[08:26] <farous> pushpop: ah the server default to the first resol which is the highest. Do you have the highest refresh rate with this resol or a lower one
[08:26] <ompaul> Necrosan_, install that, read what comes up on screen when you start it - it is a you choose thing
[08:27] <farous> pushpop: let see what the room think
[08:27] <ompaul> Necrosan_, and if you hit the wrong thing and you have no gui then all you need to remember is the > sudo /etc/init.d/$service start <
[08:27] <pushpop> farous: ok
[08:27] <farous> Is it normal not to have a files section (for font path) and a module section for loaded modules in the xorg.conf file ??
[08:28] <Necrosan_> im stopping the crap
[08:28] <verbose> farous: i don't think it's normal, mine has both
[08:28] <Necrosan_> but it just keeps appearing again
[08:28] <verbose> i believe you definitely need FontPath directives
[08:28] <verbose> but i'm not positive
[08:29] <visik7> guys do you know if ati and nvidia driver can coexsists ?
[08:29] <pushpop> farous: im retarted my copy paste skills are not up to par. I have modules
[08:29] <verbose> "Module" section you should be able to get away with not having
[08:29] <Necrosan_> ill brb
[08:29] <Necrosan_> trying this
[08:29] <visik7> I mean I'm building a ubuntu live cd and I would to put both
[08:29] <farous> pushpop: no prob it was really strange. yet xserver have changed a lot lately
[08:29] <{K}Lubby> gah
[08:29] <verbose> visik7: i don't see why they couldn't
[08:29] <{K}Lubby> imageshack is going mental
[08:30] <{K}Lubby> what's another image hosting site?
[08:30] <visik7> verbose: just to be sure dunno maybe libGL.so.1 are provided by both and can conflict
[08:30] <farous> thanx verbose i thought it was strange too :)
[08:30] <{K}Lubby> cause it's saying please hit browse and select a file to upload, even when i did
[08:30] <Madpilot> {K}Lubby, try hitting your browser's reload button
[08:31] <{K}Lubby> i did
[08:31] <farous> pushpop: so when you do the reconfiguration just choose a lower resol and refresh rate for start
[08:31] <{K}Lubby> and tried internet explorer too
[08:31] <farous> pushpop: do not worry about the card name you have it right in the xorg.conf section X800
[08:31] <pushpop> farous: www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0961.jpg
[08:32] <pushpop> farous:  www.digitizememories.com/IMG_0962.jpg
[08:32] <D_Block> hi sorry to change to topic but if I download and use a livecd, is there any way to save my settings/config?
[08:32] <{K}Lubby> well anyways lxe and verbose here's the first of 3 pics
[08:32] <{K}Lubby> the commands in terminal part a: http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5352/part1js4.png
[08:32] <carthik> !persistence
[08:32] <ubotu> To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence
[08:32] <carthik> D_Block, ^^
[08:32] <D_Block> ok I'll check it out
[08:33] <DShepherd> anyone know where i can find a svg of the ubuntu icon on my system??
[08:33] <farous> pushpop: ah much better :)
[08:33] <pushpop> haha
[08:33] <{K}Lubby> gimme a sec while i set up photobucket and ill have the rest uploaded
[08:33] <verbose> {K}Lubby: well, before you spend time on that
[08:33] <verbose> try this: `sudo ifup eth0`
[08:33] <{K}Lubby> it says "password:"
[08:34] <verbose> {K}Lubby: enter your password
[08:34] <verbose> :P
[08:34] <farous> pushpop: did yo check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[08:34] <{K}Lubby> errr... duh... :P
[08:34] <pushpop> farous: will now hold
[08:34] <farous> pushpop: will tell you what was loaded and might have a clue
[08:34] <BigOrNo> hello :)
[08:34] <Madpilot> DShepherd, there are SVGs on the Ubuntu wiki, I know
[08:35] <{K}Lubby> is there a reason why my keybaord isn't doing anything in terminal then?
[08:35] <DShepherd> Madpilot: none exists on a default install of dapper of the ubuntu icon?
[08:35] <verbose> {K}Lubby: it will not echo the password for security reasons
[08:35] <Madpilot> DShepherd, probably, yes, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official too
[08:35] <verbose> just type it and hit enter
[08:35] <D_Block> for Persistence, it it possible to use a partition of a usb hard drive, rather that a usb stick?
[08:35] <{K}Lubby> oh
[08:35] <yossman> dsherperd
[08:35] <yossman> ack, dsheperd
[08:35] <yossman> ack fired.  dude check /usr/share/icons/ ?
[08:35] <{K}Lubby> it says "ifup: the interface eth0 already configured"
[08:36] <verbose> {K}Lubby: now try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:36] <yossman> and then Human/ maybe
[08:37] <Madpilot> yossman, thanks, I was trying to remember where in /usr/ that sort of thing might be...
[08:37] <yossman> also dshepherd you could try just doing a search for files and do like '*.png' in /usr
[08:37] <{K}Lubby> how do i do a ping?
[08:37] <BigOrNo> i have a problem with my onboard network chipset and ubuntu 6.06...It's a sis191...Internet just doesn't work and when i try an ifconfig the eth0 "Base address" is 0xdead...what does that mean ?
[08:37] <{K}Lubby> is it ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:37] <yossman> madpilot yea they move it around from time to time on different distributions heh
[08:37] <|thunder> how do i download "network-manager_0.6.2-0ubuntu7_i386.deb' to a directory ?
[08:37] <DShepherd> yossman: .. png.. yes. i was searching for svg
[08:37] <verbose> {K}Lubby: yes
[08:37] <{K}Lubby> okay one sec
[08:37] <Madpilot> {K}Lubby, ping google.com - or something like that
[08:37] <D_Block> does anyone know what I was asking?
[08:38] <D_Block> can persistence be run from a partition of a no-USB stick
[08:38] <D_Block> *non
[08:38] <{K}Lubby> verbose it made a new line with ">" and nothing else
[08:38] <farous> pushpop: run this command and tell me if you have an output from it. lsmod |grep ati
[08:38] <Madpilot> D_Block, possibly - not sure at all, though
[08:38] <D_Block> ok thanks
[08:38] <pushpop> farous: ok
[08:39] <{K}Lubby> and i can type there verbose
[08:39] <verbose> {K}Lubby: hit ctrl-c
[08:39] <verbose> then try again
[08:39] <{K}Lubby> oh, i had a typo the first time
[08:39] <{K}Lubby> this time it says "connect: Network is unreachable"
[08:39] <pushpop> farous: cpufreq_conservative   7332  0
[08:40] <farous> pushpop: sudo modprobe ati
[08:40] <verbose> {K}Lubby: how is this computer attached to your network?
[08:40] <BigOrNo> It seems i'm not alone to have problems with ubuntu and network lol
[08:40] <TheGame> sup
[08:40] <pushpop> farous: Module ATI not found
[08:40] <verbose> is it hooked up to a router? or directly to another computer?
[08:40] <farous> pushpop: did you install the xserver-xorg package
[08:41] <yossman> he's direct to another computer
[08:41] <farous> pushpop: or are you using the server cd
[08:41] <pushpop> fresh install thats it
[08:41] <{K}Lubby> verbose: NIC --> crossover cable --> NIC --> windows xp computer
[08:41] <verbose> are you sure it's a crossover cable?
[08:41] <yossman> 'network is unreachable' means either the link cable isn't working
[08:41] <{K}Lubby> verbose: i had the exact same setup working just fine, except the ubuntu computer had windows xp on it
[08:41] <yossman> or the IPs are wrong on either side
[08:41] <mrPolite> yo, why does gaim open urls in a bash terminal?
[08:41] <{K}Lubby> and it was working then, and yes im sure its a crossover i went and bought it earlier today
[08:41] <verbose> {K}Lubby: try iptables -F && iptables -X
[08:42] <verbose> then try pinging
[08:42] <verbose> mrPolite: sounds like the default handler for urls in gaim is links or lynx or some other console web browser...check gaim's settings
[08:42] <TheGame> what player can play wmvs
[08:42] <{K}Lubby> uhhh for the iptables command it says "bash: iptable: command not found"
[08:42] <verbose> {K}Lubby: are you running a firewall on the windows machine?
[08:42] <{K}Lubby> thegame: windows media player
[08:42] <lwizardl> hi
[08:43] <inc|freaky> its iptables
[08:43] <farous> pushpop: are you connected to the net
[08:43] <yossman> thegame, i got it working with 'xine' and 'w32codecs'
[08:43] <{K}Lubby> verbose: uhh i think i disabled it one sec
[08:43] <verbose> {K}Lubby: sorry, iptables, not iptable
[08:43] <TheGame> hmm
[08:43] <lwizardl> how can i mount windows partitions from a usb drive
[08:43] <TheGame> u got wmp working?
[08:43] <farous> pushpop: i mean the box that have the porb
[08:43] <pushpop> farous: yes
[08:43] <{K}Lubby> verbose: oh wait, i do have a firewall on that i forgot about
[08:43] <farous> ok sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[08:43] <yossman> thegame, no the ability to play WMV
[08:43] <{K}Lubby> *disables*
[08:43] <TheGame> o
[08:43] <pushpop> farous: ok
[08:43] <TheGame> what about asf
[08:43] <farous> pushpop: if this does not work try it as sudo aptitude reinstall xserver-xorg
[08:44] <{K}Lubby> thegame: no idea
[08:44] <fdsd> hey guys, do you know a good way to have cp -a have a progress bar?
[08:44] <pushpop> ok
[08:44] <{K}Lubby> thegame: just that .wmv stands for windows media video, and its just like .wma except video instead of audio
[08:44] <TheGame> what is the package name for xine
[08:44] <{K}Lubby> i think im about to smack myself
[08:44] <r0wd3> Please help! Is this correct? After I install the nVidia driver, I have to change the  xorg.conf to use the new driver?
[08:45] <yossman> yea r0wd3
[08:45] <verbose> {K}Lubby: i wish i was within smacking proximity :P
[08:45] <verbose> although, that should have been the first thing i asked
[08:45] <TheGame> xine-ui?
[08:45] <yossman> verbose, that windows firewall thing is pretty lame a lot.
[08:45] <{K}Lubby> *retries to set it up*
[08:45] <yossman> i end up disabling it on a lot of systems ;)
[08:46] <{K}Lubby> yossman: i've had windows firewall off, it was the mcaffee one i forgot
[08:46] <r0wd3> My nvidia card in not in currently becasue it is not working with ubuntu, i was told to install the nvidia driver. after that restart and put in the card
[08:46] <{K}Lubby> verbose: nvm, it still comes up with the same error even without firewall on
[08:46] <TheGame> does xine come with totem
[08:46] <r0wd3> but i cant edit the xorg.conf if the card isnt in???
[08:46] <verbose> {K}Lubby: do you have a link light on the ethernet card?
[08:46] <verbose> in the windows command prompt type ipconfig /all
[08:47] <fdsd> anyone know?
[08:47] <verbose> and let me know what it's address is
[08:47] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yes to the link light i think, and type ipconfig /all on which computer?
[08:47] <r0wd3> ???
[08:47] <verbose> {K}Lubby: on the windows computer
[08:47] <verbose> hold the windows key and hit 'r'
[08:47] <verbose> then type ipconfig in that screen
[08:48] <verbose> and make sure it has an interface with address <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:48] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: I think someone has put you wrong.. "not working" usually just means no 3d, you should have no problems booting up and using the card for basic GUI stuff still.
[08:48] <{K}Lubby> it did it, then closed, lemme do it in dos
[08:48] <{K}Lubby> verbose, what am i looking for on the mile of stuff it returned?
[08:48] <r0wd3> Neh, It doesnt boot
[08:48] <TheGame> yossman do u know the pckg name for xine
[08:48] <verbose> {K}Lubby: i can't remember the exact format
[08:48] <yossman> thegame hmm
[08:48] <zcat[1] > ahh, well that sucks. What card?
[08:48] <r0wd3> Unless i take the card out and use onboard
[08:49] <r0wd3> its a Sparkle 6600GT
[08:49] <verbose> but it should have something like IP Address :      <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:49] <{K}Lubby> yeah
[08:49] <verbose> under a Local Area Connection
[08:49] <dragonguy> hey, would someone like help me to configure boot my system into shell model but not gnome?
[08:49] <{K}Lubby> yes i see that part
[08:49] <verbose> {K}Lubby: and it has that?
[08:49] <{K}Lubby> yeah
[08:49] <verbose> ok
[08:49] <yossman> yea xine-ui looks like it ?
[08:49] <TheGame> beats me
[08:49] <{K}Lubby> it has another ip address though
[08:49] <farous> pushpop: how is it going
[08:49] <r0wd3> zcat[1] : Can you help?
[08:49] <TheGame> problem is i want to play files in firefox too
[08:49] <verbose> how about try right-clicking Network Connections on the windows machine and left clicking Properties
[08:49] <TheGame> so i might just get wmp10 and use wine
[08:50] <Madpilot> TheGame, Totem can use xine codecs - install totem-xine
[08:50] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: I can try. Put the nvidia card in and boot up .. I assume you get some text and stuff and then the screen goes black after a while?
[08:50] <TheGame> o wait i got the solution
[08:50] <{K}Lubby> its got ip address: <IP_ADDRESS>, and then under that subnet mask: <IP_ADDRESS>, then under that ip address: fe80::216:76ff:fe60:3035%4
[08:50] <TheGame> i think mplayer just cant find the w32 codecs
[08:50] <frying_fish> TheGame: you can also use mozilla-mplayer the mplayer plugin for firefox
[08:50] <aviper2k7> why do you want to use wmp10 in wine?
[08:50] <TheGame> so i have to install them manually
[08:50] <{K}Lubby> verbose: but on the network connection properties one yeah it has <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:50] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: or does it really not boot at all?
[08:51] <frying_fish> {K}Lubby: that second one is ipv6
[08:51] <TheGame> where do i get the w32codecs
[08:51] <verbose> {K}Lubby: you should have 2 connections in that window
[08:51] <Scrippie> tell me
[08:51] <{K}Lubby> frying_fish: okay thank's... that makes sense
[08:51] <frying_fish> !restricted
[08:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:51] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell TheGame about restricted
[08:51] <verbose> does the one that's not <IP_ADDRESS> have the little hand under it and say Shared underneath?
[08:51] <frying_fish> TheGame: look there.
[08:51] <{K}Lubby> verbose: one sec
[08:51] <r0wd3> zcat[1] : the screen doesnt go blank, it starts to boot, then it gets to Ubuntu screen with the loading bar, and says what things it is loading. It gets the the Hardware driver part and just stops
[08:51] <{K}Lubby> verbose: no it doesnt... should i make it shared?
[08:52] <verbose> {K}Lubby: yes
[08:52] <yossman> lubby you said you already shared it ;)
[08:52] <yossman> earlier
[08:52] <verbose> the one that's hooked up to your ineternet connection, not the one hooked up to your linux box
[08:52] <{K}Lubby> verbose: it... was... but now it's got my wireless connection (for my network with dsl)
[08:52] <{K}Lubby> verbose: the one hooked up to the internet connection is shared
[08:52] <verbose> ok, that's how it should be
[08:52] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: hmmm.. ok. That's not good and I'm not sure I can help you fix it...
[08:52] <{K}Lubby> oh
[08:52] <verbose> now on your linux  box type dhclient eth0
[08:53] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: hopefully someone else here will know :)
[08:53] <{K}Lubby> verbose: does the ethernet cable one (that hooks to the ubuntu) need to be shared?
[08:53] <TheGame> thanks
[08:53] <verbose> you're sharing the connection that has internet connectivity
[08:53] <garryF> ubotu hardware
[08:53] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:53] <verbose> {K}Lubby: no, not that one, just the one that is directly connected to your internet connection
[08:53] <r0wd3> zcat[1] : I was surgest to reinstall, but that doesnt help, since i had to take the 6600gt out to install ubuntu anyway
[08:54] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay ummm it came up with some weird results for the dhclient eth0 thing, lemme screeny it
[08:54] <jn> is there any fonts in gedit that will display ansi correctly
[08:54] <r0wd3> Thanks anyway, the fact that you were willing to help is awsome.
[08:54] <r0wd3> Can anyone else Help me!
[08:54] <TheGame> what does this error mean
[08:54] <TheGame> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:54] <jn> r0wd3: with what?
[08:54] <verbose> {K}Lubby: if it already finished that's probably a good sign
[08:54] <verbose> try pinging <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:54] <jn> TheGame: means you got something open that shouldnt be
[08:54] <jn> close synamtic
[08:54] <TheGame> o ya that its
[08:54] <TheGame> thats it
[08:54] <r0wd3> I cant boot past the ubuntu loading screen with my 6600GT in, I have to take it out and run my onboard graphics to boot
[08:54] <TheGame> thanks i didnt even see it open
[08:55] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: I'm thinking BIOS settings or something.. but it's a bit out of my depth. Doesn't sound like you're even getting as far as starting X so it's probably more complicated than just using the right driver.
[08:55] <r0wd3> oh ok then, What do you surgest i cheack?
[08:55] <{K}Lubby> verbose: it gave me a few lines of not being able to creat things cause of permission denied
[08:55] <r0wd3> *
[08:56] <jn> what is the linux equivilant to the terminal font
[08:56] <verbose> {K}Lubby: sorry, sudo dhclient eth0
[08:56] <jn> one that displays asni
[08:56] <{K}Lubby> verbose: oh, okay
[08:56] <jn> is there one by default?
[08:56] <pushpop> farous: I installed ati drivers and it worked.  Thanks for all your help
[08:56] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: a google search, see if anyone else had a similar problem and how they fixed it...
[08:57] <{K}Lubby> verbose: for the send_packet part it says network is down
[08:57] <jn> pushpop: xgl?
[08:57] <verbose> {K}Lubby: try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:57] <verbose> this is damn weird
[08:57] <r0wd3> Yeah, i tryed that, there isn't anything similar
[08:57] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yeah it is weird
[08:57] <farous> pushpop: glad it worked :)
[08:57] <{K}Lubby> verbose: wait... you mean pinging my ubuntu computer from itself?
[08:57] <verbose> yes
[08:57] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: or bring it up textmode and see how far it gets, see if there's anything in /var/log/xorg.0.log about it..
[08:58] <r0wd3> Do you think i should try another card and see if it boots?
[08:58] <pushpop> farous: thanks again
[08:58] <zcat[1] > perhaps that too
[08:58] <{K}Lubby> verbose: *groan* it still says connect: Network is unreachable
[08:58] <garryF> I can't figure out what the O in rOwd3 is, so I guess I gotta say it here. I see your card is supported, and it seems by default that Ubuntu uses the NV driver which words for most nvidia cards. I suspect something else is wrong like maybe a monitor setup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:58] <{K}Lubby> verbose: i think the reason why is because it won't activate my ethernet card when i have static ip settings because of that error
[08:58] <garryF> !Nvidia
[08:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:59] <r0wd3> zcat[1] : ahh ok, i didnt think of that
[08:59] <garryF> I noted that the binary driver stuff seems to be updates since last I looked.
[08:59] <verbose> {K}Lubby: sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:59] <{K}Lubby> verbose: im setting the network card on the ubuntu back to dhcp, cause it will activate like that
[08:59] <r0wd3> garryF: I wouldnt know what to change, im pretty new.
[08:59] <verbose> {K}Lubby: ok
[08:59] <relyks> i tried installing glx on my comp with a nVidea GeForce 440 GO and after reboot, X wouldnt start
[08:59] <zcat[1] > garryF: funny thing is I had wuite a similar problem recently with an nvidia mobo.. first boot it would always stop on detecting hardware, warm boot it would come up OK. I didn't figure out why...
[08:59] <{K}Lubby> verbose: you want me to still do that command?
[08:59] <verbose> {K}Lubby: we need to connect to your windows box through another method than ping
[09:00] <verbose> {K}Lubby: no, don't do it
[09:00] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay
[09:00] <garryF> r0wd3 hehe, now the silly name completion works. I agree.
[09:00] <HeXiOn> hello
[09:00] <verbose> click places -> network servers
[09:00] <{K}Lubby> verbose: what do you mean by another way to connect it?
[09:00] <verbose> {K}Lubby: pinging isn't working for some reason
[09:00] <verbose> so it's not a valid test
[09:00] <zcat[1] > .. the owner is now complaining it sometimes takes several boots to make it come up and we're thinking the board as ESD perhaps.
[09:00] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yeah
[09:00] <{K}Lubby> verbose: oooh i got an idea
[09:00] <garryF> Is it an NVidia mobo or a nvidia card? What's the chipset in either case, r0wd3?
[09:01] <r0wd3> It is a nvidia card, sparkle 6600GT
[09:01] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay if i have the ethernet card on my ubuntu set to dhcp, how do i find out what dhcp gave my ubuntu for an ip address?
[09:01] <playtime3> why is the updates for ubuntu is really going slow?
[09:01] <HeXiOn> anybody knows an application for remembering dates? not just gdesklet... an application just as an icon in the tray with popups a message when programmed (as "Tray Helper" in windows)
[09:01] <verbose> {K}Lubby: /sbin/ifconfig eth0
[09:01] <garryF> zcat[1]  Yeah, I keep getting thrown by nvidia, I keep thinking of card instead of mobo.
[09:01] <{K}Lubby> verbose: that doesn't give me an ip
[09:02] <r0wd3> The board is a cheap second had one ( currently saving to upgrade) asrock board
[09:02] <zcat[1] > garryF: in this case it's nvidia video. In my case it was a fully nvidia mobo..
[09:02] <verbose> {K}Lubby: in the second line it should have ient addr:192.168.0.x Bcast:......
[09:02] <verbose> unless you're not getting an ip from the windows machine
[09:02] <jn> i thought it was monospace that displayed ansi characters like terminal does in windows but that is not happening
[09:02] <playtime3> Why is the update on ubuntu server takes so long? i
[09:02] <garryF> I wonder if there is a FIRMWARE upgrade for that 6600GT card. Maybe that should be checked out.
[09:02] <jn> any help?
[09:02] <{K}Lubby> verbose: second line- "broadcast multicast mtu: 1500 metric:1"
[09:03] <garryF> zcat[1] . yeah
[09:03] <sethk> playtime3, lots of people accessing it at the same time
[09:03] <sethk> playtime3, try a mirror closer to wherever you are
[09:03] <verbose> {K}Lubby: then it's not getting an ip address
[09:03] <{K}Lubby> verbose: i also doubt im getting an ip from it, cause i dont think it has dhcp running on it
[09:03] <verbose> if ICS is enabled that switches on the dhcp server
[09:03] <{K}Lubby> verbose: let me see if dhcp server is somewhere under services so i can start it
[09:03] <zcat[1] > r0wd3: bring it up with the working onboard video and change /etc/xorg.conf to use the vesa driver, perhaps.. or remove /etc/rc2.d/*gdm so it starts in textmode and see if you get to a login prompt?
[09:03] <verbose> but for now, do sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:03] <playtime3> sethk: I have, it dont even reach a kbs
[09:03] <sethk> {K}Lubby, all you need is the ip and the netmask, as long as the windows box and the ubuntu box are on the same subnet
[09:03] <playtime3> *to
[09:03] <sethk> verbose, he needs the mask:  sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:03] <HeXiOn> anybody knows an application for remembering dates? not as gdesklet... an application just as an icon in the tray which popups a message when programmed (as "Tray Helper" in windows)
[09:04] <verbose> sethk: it defaults to ffffff00
[09:04] <verbose> so he doesn't need to type it even though he needs it
[09:04] <sethk> verbose, not what the docs say, but possible, I suppose
[09:04] <r0wd3> Ok, ill do that now! Ill bbs
[09:04] <cafuego> HeXiOn: Evolution does that; if you enter meetings/appointments
[09:04] <{K}Lubby> how do i open up services on my xp machine again?
[09:04] <cafuego> not very lightweight though
[09:05] <{K}Lubby> oh i found it rofl
[09:05] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: Start Internet Explorer and browse the web for 15 or so minutes.
[09:05] <{K}Lubby> cafuego: why...?
[09:05] <HeXiOn> cafuego: thanks, I'll probe it :)
[09:05] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: That should be enough time to get infected ;-)
[09:05] <zcat[1] > haha, no just start MSIE and cruse to serials.ws
[09:06] <{K}Lubby> verbose: under services it has dhcp *client* started, and dns *client* started.... but i dont see any dhcp server.... i dont know if i windows has it on it
[09:06] <garryF> He could also edit /etc/inittab file and change the default runlevel from 5 to three and it would log in as command line and there is a two key command to go to instant login text screen but I forget what it is. I think its ctrl-alt-F1 through F4
[09:06] <verbose> {K}Lubby: it's not a service in non-server(XP) os's
[09:06] <garryF> nm ,he all gone.
[09:06] <verbose> it's just windows magic...YEEEEAAAAH
[09:06] <zcat[1] > I am consistently in awe at the amount of spyware that site can get in, even when you click on NOTHING!!!
[09:06] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yeah... so how do i start it?
[09:06] <verbose> {K}Lubby: now though, if you type /sbin/ifconfig eth0
[09:07] <verbose> you should see an inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:07] <verbose> you start it by enabling ICS
[09:07] <{K}Lubby> verbose: ics is enabled... i think...
[09:07] <verbose> make sure in services.msc that Windows Firewall Service is started
[09:07] <verbose> cause that also performs the ICS i believe
[09:07] <ufk2> is there some kind of mirror for security.ubuntu.com? apt-get update from there is very very slow.
[09:07] <{K}Lubby> verbose: *start* windows firewall?
[09:08] <verbose> {K}Lubby: leave the firewall disabled, i just want to make sure the windows service is started
[09:08] <zcat[1] > wtf> You can run windows more than 5 minutes without a firewall?!!
[09:08] <sethk> verbose, I've been playing with it here, and it seems to need the netmask to get everything set correctly, including the broadcast address and network address and such.
[09:08] <sethk> verbose, I'm on breezy, but I doubt it has changed.
[09:08] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay
[09:08] <{K}Lubby> verbose: what is windows firewall service name?
[09:09] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay found it actually, and fyi its windows firewall/internet connection sharing
[09:09] <{K}Lubby> and it's started
[09:09] <{K}Lubby> verbose: want me to restart it?
[09:11] <{K}Lubby> verbose: are you there?
[09:11] <kihai> Can anybody help me with a hdd prob? I have a ext3 partition with an obviously corrupt partition table. Gnome panel shows me two identical drives, when I plug it in. I can read and write to it, but fsck.ext3 tells me sth about a zero lenght partition. Are there any tools to thoroughly check and repair the partition table?
[09:11] <kihai> Oh, it's an externally connected USB drive...
[09:11] <ripper> ughh
[09:11] <ripper> any way i can install the w32codec package?
[09:11] <{K}Lubby> kihai: sorry, but i know nothing about that stuff
[09:12] <{K}Lubby> verbose: are you there...? :'(
[09:12] <kihai> ripper: Try automatix.
[09:12] <playtime3> I've just install xchat when im in a channel i dont see the userlist bar on the right, how do i change it so that i can see the user list bar on the right? im using xchat-gnome
[09:12] <sethk> kihai, if you know what the partition table is supposed to be, it is easy to set with fdisk.  I believe gparted has some tools to try to figure out existing partitions if the partition table is corrupted
[09:13] <kihai> sethk: I already tried several times to delete and recreate the partition with gparted, but the error continues...
[09:13] <ripper> umm what is automatix?
[09:13] <isak_> www.getautomatix.com
[09:13] <sethk> kihai, if you know the beginning and ending sectors, don't use gparted, just use fdisk
[09:13] <jn> ansi in gedit.. anyone?
[09:13] <sethk> kihai, use fdisk -l to print out the partition table
[09:14] <sethk> kihai, if you've recreated the partitions, perhaps the problem is in the file system itself and not the partition table
[09:14] <ripper> umm i was using apt-get
[09:14] <{K}Lubby> verbose: (or anyone else) how do i change my ip address and mask using terminal?
[09:14] <ripper> i dont need a gui
[09:14] <ripper> blah
[09:14] <playtime3> I've just install xchat when im in a channel i dont see the userlist bar on the right, how do i change it so that i can see the user list bar on the right? im using xchat-gnome. Anyone know the solution to my problem please help me
[09:14] <kihai> sethk: ...and I don't know, how the partition table should look like. All data is already backed up, so I don't need to save any data, but I can't correctly repartition the drive
[09:14] <ripper> i just want to play wmv files
[09:14] <isak_> ripper, i think ffmpeg has support for wmv3 now.
[09:14] <Benjamin_L> is there a way to blacklist my onboard soundcard?
[09:15] <sethk> kihai, I don't know a lot about gparted, because I've been using fdisk for 15 years and I have no reason to change.  So try partitioning with fdisk.  you have nothing to lose, it would appear.
[09:15] <{K}Lubby> sethk: how do i set my ubuntu's ip address and mask?
[09:15] <ufk2> is there a mirror for security.ubuntu.com?
[09:15] <ripper> i wish i didnt have to install another package manager to make w32codecs install
[09:15] <ripper> thats kinda f00bar
[09:15] <verbose> sethk: works fine for me here
[09:15] <verbose> sethk: what happens on your machine when you don't specify it?
[09:15] <verbose> {K}Lubby: click Places -> Network Servers
[09:15] <verbose> and see if you see your windows machine in it
[09:15] <dnB> package manager? or repo?
[09:15] <sethk> {K}Lubby, I must have told you this about 30 times, and several other people have as well.  ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:15] <yossman> ripper you don't have to
[09:16] <yossman> you just have to enable restricted repositories
[09:16] <sethk> verbose, let me see if I still have it in my scroll buffer
[09:16] <verbose> thx
[09:16] <sethk> verbose, in any event, it certainly can't hurt to explicitly set the mask
[09:16] <ripper> yeah i just did sudo apt-get update
[09:16] <verbose> sethk: talk to someone with carpal tunnel
[09:16] <{K}Lubby> verbose: any other ideas?
[09:16] <ripper> apparently there was a problem with the old package
[09:16] <kihai> OK, I tried to mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 but I get "unable to read superblock" Could not read block 0
[09:17] <sethk> verbose, other than {K}Lubby here, one doesn't normally type that frequently  :)   although I do when I'm porting the o/s, but that's another issue altogether
[09:17] <{K}Lubby> verbose: oh wait sorry i missed the places -> network servers part
[09:17] <verbose> {K}Lubby: try clicking Places -> Network Servers and see if your windows machine is in there
[09:17] <Necrosan> I can't get apache to recognize ServerName
[09:17] <Necrosan> it keeps showing the internal IP
[09:17] <Necrosan> any ideas?
[09:17] <ripper> ok, that didnt work
[09:17] <{K}Lubby> sethk: what was it you said about me? :S
[09:17] <ripper> and i dont want to install automatix
[09:17] <verbose> sethk: i use ifconfig pretty frequently
[09:17] <kihai> sethk: I'll try...
[09:17] <verbose> Necrosan: did you restart httpd?
[09:17] <{K}Lubby> verbose: when i go to places -> network servers, windows network shows up
[09:18] <verbose> {K}Lubby: do you have any shares on your xp machine?
[09:18] <sethk> verbose, I'm never dealing with 0xffffff00 as a netmask, so a default wouldn't help me in any event
[09:18] <{K}Lubby> verbose: uhhh i dont think so
[09:18] <Necrosan> verbose: of course
[09:18] <Necrosan> I tried adding it to /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[09:18] <ripper> someone having a problem with apache?
[09:18] <Necrosan> and to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[09:18] <SurfnKid> im not
[09:18] <ripper> Necrosan, what are you trying to do?
[09:18] <{K}Lubby> verbose: as in right clicking files/folders and having them made available to the whole network?
[09:19] <Necrosan> ripper: Set a "hostname"
[09:19] <jn> im getting timestamp too far in the future for some things i need to do, is there a way to correct that
[09:19] <Necrosan> I'm using a cjb.net redirector
[09:19] <ripper> heh
[09:19] <Necrosan> And I'd like to set that as the "ServerName"
[09:19] <ripper> lol
[09:19] <ripper> ok np
[09:19] <ripper> hang on
[09:19] <Necrosan> but apache is being stupid and not letting e
[09:19] <verbose> Necrosan: sethk i was talking to {K}Lubby in this particular case, not saying you never need netmask...i specifically said in this example
[09:19] <ripper> check your rc files
[09:19] <verbose> {K}Lubby: yeah
[09:19] <ripper> or run hostname :P
[09:19] <yossman> ripper i was wrong you do have to grab it a special way
[09:19] <ripper> thats crap
[09:19] <{K}Lubby> verbose: yeah i do, cause when i set the wireless network to shared it also shared all my files too lol
[09:19] <Necrosan> er i think i got it
[09:20] <ripper> let me show you how to make it more permanent @ Necrosan
[09:20] <Necrosan> yeah i got it i think
[09:20] <mwe> Is the gnome network settings dialog supposed to be able to handle WPA?
[09:20] <Necrosan> mwe: I'd hope so
[09:21] <cafuego> mwe: Yes.
[09:21] <ripper> just do this
[09:21] <verbose> {K}Lubby: try opening the windows network
[09:21] <cafuego> Not only that, it _does_ handle WPA.
[09:21] <{K}Lubby> verbose: theres nothing there
[09:21] <ripper> sudo nano /etc/hostname
[09:21] <mwe> cafuego: I can't seem to find settings for WPA though. only WEP
[09:21] <tuxtux> ciao
[09:21] <verbose> i'm out of ideas then, and have to go to sleep anyway
[09:21] <{K}Lubby> verbose: i also tried sudo ethtool eth0, and it said that there is a link detected, among other things
[09:21] <cafuego> mwe: Do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[09:21] <verbose> yeah, every thing looks good on the linux box
[09:21] <{K}Lubby> verbose: okay night, ill try and figure it out... thanks for the help though
[09:21] <mwe> cafuego: yes
[09:22] <{K}Lubby> wait one last thing
[09:22] <cafuego> Odd. Very odd.
[09:22] <verbose> {K}Lubby: yeah
[09:22] <mwe> yes
[09:22] <jn> so.. timestamp error.. do i have to wait it out?
[09:22] <{K}Lubby> verbose: what's the equivalent of sudo ethtool eth0 on windows?
[09:22] <cafuego> mwe: Oh hold on, are you using network-manager or the Network Interfaces dialog?
[09:22] <ripper> i h8 windows
[09:22] <cafuego> {K}Lubby: `ipconfig' probably.
[09:22] <verbose> {K}Lubby: i guess the closest thing is ipconfig /all
[09:22] <{K}Lubby> k
[09:23] <mwe> cafuego: It's called network setting, from the system menu
[09:23] <cafuego> ipconfig is crap, though
[09:23] <verbose> but a lot of the information is in the device manager, not in ipconfig
[09:23] <ripper> pr0n sites should make their content accessible to all *by not using wmv formats :P*
[09:23] <mwe> cafuego: I need to use something else?
[09:23] <cafuego> mwe: That does indeed not (to my knowledge) do WPA. You'll need to install networkmanager and add the network manager applet to your panel.
[09:23] <{K}Lubby> it doesnt say anything about a link being detected....
[09:24] <mwe> cafuego: oh. ok thanks
[09:24] <{K}Lubby> but then again, i guess that fact that in network settings it says "connected" means link detected *laugh*
[09:24] <jn> no one wants to help me anymore
[09:24] <jn> sup with it?
[09:25] <GNAM> ubuntu 6.06 service pack 1 OUT!
[09:25] <TomTheBomb> does Security have a mirror
[09:26] <mwe> service pack?
[09:26] <harisund> Does anybody have any experience with CaptiveNTFS on AMD64? Any performance benchmarks or the like?
[09:27] <el_isma> harisund: Did you try ntfs-3g?
[09:27] <harisund> el_isma: what is that?
[09:27] <el_isma> harisund: I think the release of the beta had some benchmarks
[09:28] <el_isma> harisund: It's a free ntfs read-write driver
[09:28] <Knuckles10> is the ubuntu update site really slow at the moment?
[09:28] <el_isma> harisund: it's still beta, but works pretty well. I've been using it for a while
[09:28] <Knuckles10> im only getting a few bytes a second off it
[09:28] <el_isma> Knuckles10: yes, it seems everybody is updating
[09:28] <harisund> el_isma: well, I am not particularly keen on benchmarks. I just want to write to my ntfs partition as non root. I am thinking of setting up dual boot and share my firefox/thunderbird/gaim/gnupg profiles across both operating systems. Think it can be done?
[09:28] <el_isma> Knuckles10: Try using a mirror
[09:29] <Knuckles10> can you link me?
[09:29] <Knuckles10> <-- ubuntu noob
[09:29] <harisund> el_isma: is ntfs-3g available in the repos?
[09:29] <el_isma> harisund: I think your best bet is using ntfs-3g. I'm using it to share my thunderbird mail and my main storage (downloading things from bittorrent)
[09:29] <el_isma> harisund: no, but there's a rep. for it
[09:29] <el_isma> harisund: do you want it?
[09:30] <harisund> sweet ... so you are able to access your emails from both operating systems if i am not much mistaen?
[09:30] <harisund> el_isma: if you have it it would be great.
[09:30] <el_isma> Knuckles10: I'm sorry, I don't know which mirror would be best for you
[09:30] <el_isma> Knuckles10: There was some app that picked up the best mirror for you.. I can't remember it, sorry :(
[09:30] <el_isma> harisund: hold on a minute
[09:31] <el_isma> harisund: oh, here it is: deb http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/ dapper main
[09:31] <TheGateKeeper> harisund: there are howto's on ntfs read/write in the ubuntu forums
[09:31] <harisund> TheGateKeeper: Ok .. I will try searching .. meanwhie, el_isma thanks for the link
[09:32] <el_isma> harisund: no prob. :)
[09:33] <altious> wow... 767 total =))
[09:33] <Lattyware> With 0 ops...
[09:34] <altious> sorry. i am new. is there more popular channels?
[09:34] <hawkaloogie> Lattyware, they exist in silence. they live in shadow. when you least expect it, they shall appear
[09:35] <Lattyware> heh
[09:35] <harisund> actually hawkaloogie they shall appear merely by typing !ops but let's not do that :)
[09:35] <Madpilot> harisund, too late, you just did ;)
[09:36] <harisund> did I ? ooopss...
[09:36] <zcat[1] > I saw no summons from ubotu
[09:36] <harisund> I thought the bot is only invoked when typing a statement starting from '!' ?
[09:36] <harisund> Yeah, neither did I zcat[1]  ...
[09:36] <zcat[1] > I think he kids...
[09:36] <DBO> harisund, I have a highlight on ops =P
[09:36] <harisund> I hope he kids :)
[09:37] <Madpilot> harisund, some of us have our IRC clients set up to beep on [bang] ops
[09:37] <hawkaloogie> roflrofl
[09:37] <harisund> Well.. Madpilot responded pretty immediately.
[09:37] <harisund> Oh that's why ..
[09:37] <harisund> oopss.. sorry didn't realize.
[09:37] <el_isma> :D
[09:37] <Madpilot> no prob... now let me go back to my lurking ;)
[09:37] <harisund> and waiting in the shadow ..
[09:38] <Se7h> isnt there a way to place evolution on the tray ?
[09:38] <Bob535> gah, time for crossover office, need to write something in VBA, cant figure out basic, python or beanshell to work in openoffice
[09:38] <Bob535> no time to learn a new language
[09:38] <Se7h> Bob535 go for python
[09:38] <{K}Lubby> anyone know how to find the mac address of a windows xp machine?
[09:38] <sycho> how can you minimize xmms to the tray?
[09:38] <zcat[1] > nmap as root will tell you
[09:38] <Se7h> {K}Lubby ipconfig /a
[09:38] <Bob535> lubby, start > run
[09:39] <Bob535> "cmd"
[09:39] <Bob535> from dos promt
[09:39] <sanmarcos> Bob535, python is the shit
[09:39] <Bob535> "ipconfig"
[09:39] <Bob535> Im sure it is, if I had time to learn it
[09:39] <keithalexander> I've got the ubuntu live cd booted up at the command line (not in x). Where can I find the installer script?
[09:39] <{K}Lubby> okay thanks i figured it out
[09:39] <sanmarcos> Bob535, there is no time to learn. Just go to the python tutorial, it is 10 min
[09:39] <sanmarcos> from there you go
[09:39] <keithalexander> (I don't want to start x)
[09:39] <sanmarcos> its inertia, its the shit I tell you
[09:41] <jn> is there any font that comes with ubuntu that will display ansi correctly?
[09:41] <Bob535> I will take a look sanmarcos
[09:41] <sanmarcos> jn, fixed?
[09:41] <sanmarcos> jn, monospace
[09:42] <sycho> any good tradewars helpers for ubuntu? :)
[09:42] <Bob535> Everytime i load the python editor in open office, OO crashes, is it a separate install from the main OO?
[09:42] <mwe> The network-manager applet says "no network connection" I do have a connection though ?!
[09:42] <dell500> how do you make a new partition onto a USB device (sata 300gb)?
[09:43] <jn> sanmarcos: nope monospace doesnt show the chars correctly and i dont see fixed
[09:43] <PyroManiak> what does enable "desktop double buffer" do to wine? *performance wise
[09:43] <KrisWood> Woot, fully upgraded to dapper, now to make sure everything works :)
[09:43] <sanmarcos> jn, in what app?
[09:43] <jn> gedit
[09:44] <sanmarcos> what file are you editing
[09:44] <jn> nfo
[09:44] <jn> *.nfo
[09:44] <sanmarcos> make sure it is UTF-8, or ASCII, and doesnt contain shit if its ascii
[09:44] <sanmarcos> uuencode
[09:44] <jn> how
[09:45] <Quuar> can someone help me im trying to install a plugin to watch windows media content in firefox
[09:45] <Quuar> but i get
[09:45] <Quuar> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:45] <Quuar>   totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin: Depends: totem-gstreamer (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu4) but 1.4.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[09:46] <sanmarcos> jn, you can save it as utf-8 in gedit itself
[09:46] <keithalexander> can anyone tell me the name and location of the ubuntu installer script on the live cd?
[09:46] <SupeR> hi
[09:46] <sanmarcos> otehr than that there are console tools
[09:46] <jn> sanmarcos: how do i set ASCII or utf
[09:46] <mwe> How do I get the network-manager applet to recognize my network interface? It doesn't show.
[09:46] <dell500> how do you make a new partition onto a USB device (sata 300gb)?
[09:46] <mwe> dell500: sudo cfdisk
[09:46] <SupeR> why can't i login with root in ssh if in the installation i entered non root username ?
[09:46] <sanmarcos> dell500, gparted if you like guis
[09:46] <jn> sanmarcos: id like to have it to display properly everytime saving it to utf-8 would be a pain
[09:46] <mwe> dell500: /dev/sda or whatever the device name is. sudo cfdisk /dev/sda if that's the device name
[09:47] <dell500> sanmarcos, qtparter i have, i'm guessing the device it shows on the usb is /dev/sdc
[09:47] <sanmarcos> SupeR, PermitRootLogin is set to no probably
[09:47] <mwe> dell500: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc then :)
[09:47] <sanmarcos> SupeR, login as normal user, su -, or sudo -i in ubuntu, and edit /etc/sshd_config or whatever it is called, then restart sshd
[09:47] <dell500> what's the diff between primary and logical (i used to know :) )
[09:47] <sanmarcos> dell500, yes, /dev/sdc, usb mass storage uses scsi emu in linux
[09:47] <SupeR> i dont think that is the problem
[09:48] <sanmarcos> jn, saving it to utf8 converts it outright, try "file myfile.nfo" it will tell you what type it is in the console
[09:48] <SupeR> i have 2 system now, sshd_config is exactly same
[09:48] <SupeR> but one can login using root, another one cant
[09:48] <jn> ok
[09:48] <sanmarcos> SupeR, maybe the root account is disabled?
[09:49] <mwe> dell500: you can create an extended partition instead of a primary and it can contain a number of logical partitions
[09:49] <dell500> show i make it primary or logical? and does OSX (new macbook) and winxp support ext3?
[09:49] <SupeR> sanmarcos: how do i check it ?
[09:49] <cafuego> dell500: No
[09:49] <sanmarcos> dell500, winxp yes, through fs-driver.org, mac os x, i am not sure, but no, they dont give a shit
[09:49] <sanmarcos> dell500, use vfat, it sucks, but its your only chocie if you want triple-os support
[09:49] <sanmarcos> SupeR, finger root
[09:49] <dell500> so maybe putting it in NTFS would be the best bet for more compatibility
[09:50] <jn> sanmarcos: that didnt do it
[09:50] <dell500> ya good call
[09:50] <jn> UTF-8 Unicode English text
[09:50] <SupeR> sanmarcos: command not found :P
[09:50] <mwe> cafuego: for some reason the network-manager applet says "No network connection" I do have a connection up though :|
[09:50] <{K}Lubby> whats the ifconfig command to change the gateway?
[09:50] <jn> but it still does not display correctly
[09:50] <sanmarcos> jn, it is an utf-8 file, can you upload a screenshot of the gedit win?
[09:50] <cafuego> mwe: <heh>
[09:50] <jn> sure
[09:50] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, use route, and edit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:50] <sanmarcos> SupeR, install it
[09:50] <Bob535> I will check python out in the morning
[09:50] <Se7h> isnt there a way to place evolution on the tray ?
[09:50] <Bob535> night all
[09:51] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, what's the command for route?
[09:51] <sanmarcos> route
[09:51] <mwe> cafuego: I think I can manage to configure WPA manually. I'd like to try the applet though.
[09:51] <{K}Lubby> oh :$
[09:51] <dell500> mwe, so having this 300gb sata would be for backup only, and to reference mp3s and stuff, so primary would be best
[09:51] <SupeR> ip ro
[09:51] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, just edit /etc/network/interfaces and add gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:51] <cafuego> mwe: You need to remove the interface info from /etc/network/interfaces for nm-applet to work.
[09:52] <SupeR> sanmarcos: with finger, if it's disabled, what will it display?
[09:52] <mwe> cafuego: oh
[09:52] <cafuego> mwe: Otoh, it also means you can't use the wifi unless you're logged in to gnome.
[09:52] <jn> sanmarcos: accept dcc?
[09:52] <|thunder> how difficult is it to share my wireless network over rth0 to a laptop ?
[09:52] <sanmarcos> SupeR, forget what i said, check http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_set.2Fchange.2Fenable_root_user_password
[09:52] <sanmarcos> jn, just imageshack.us
[09:52] <SupeR> thanks
[09:53] <mwe> cafuego: ah. I think I'll configure it the usual way then
[09:53] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos: how do i edit it?
[09:53] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, with a text editor
[09:53] <{K}Lubby> k
[09:53] <{K}Lubby> and what do i change in it? (my ethernet card is eth0)
[09:53] <mwe> dell500: It doesn't make any functional difference if you make it primary or not
[09:54] <TGM> Whee~ I've been getting a bit bothered by some applications recently. Random failures mostly with the occasional simply not opening at all. Kolorpaint for one has been taking a -very- long time to open ANYTHING and half the time it opens it it closes it down in a second. My other main problem has been with firefox, it's been shutting down completely on some sites includeing Gmail and Newgrounds. This has been happening recently and I'm a touch
[09:54] <TGM>  frustrated. Any ideas what could be causing these things?
[09:54] <SupeR> cool, thanks sanmarcos
[09:54] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, I already told you, add the gateway line
[09:54] <sanmarcos> SupeR, yes, I was confused, did it work?
[09:54] <jn-> sanmarcos: query
[09:54] <{K}Lubby> just add it at the end?
[09:55] <SupeR> sanmarcos: yes, managed to disable root login with ssh :D
[09:55] <{K}Lubby> or add it after the stuff in auto eth0?
[09:55] <sanmarcos> SupeR, I thought you wanted to enable it
[09:55] <sanmarcos> SupeR, it is easily changed in sshd_config
[09:55] <SupeR> hm.. no
[09:55] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, add it after the last indented line
[09:55] <SupeR> i just want to know
[09:55] <SupeR> why if i entered other username in installation
[09:56] <SupeR> i can't login with root in sshd
[09:56] <{K}Lubby> sandmarcos... and if none of the lines are indented?
[09:56] <SupeR> but if i entered root when it asking for username in registration, i can login using root
[09:56] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, do you have a gui? you can do it by changing your network preferences
[09:56] <mwe> SupeR: because it's disabled by default. edit the config if you really need ti (you don't)
[09:56] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, i do... but it's being screwy
[09:56] <SupeR> mwe: which config ?
[09:56] <dell500> qtparted only has ext2,3, fat32 and 16, and some other stuff... no ntfs/hpfs
[09:57] <dell500> ntfs == fat32??
[09:57] <{K}Lubby> it won't let me have static ip settings using it
[09:57] <el_isma> dell500 ntfs != fat32
[09:57] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, it should look like this http://www.jardinpresente.com.ar/Util/texto/1
[09:57] <dell500> k
[09:57] <el_isma> dell500 and *quite* so, too
[09:57] <dell500> i figured
[09:57] <dell500> :)
[09:57] <el_isma> hehe
[09:57] <sanmarcos> dell500, ntfs > vfat. But not properly supported in linux, or os x. Your only choice is vfat if you want 3 os suport
[09:58] <{K}Lubby> san, okay
[09:58] <{K}Lubby> but what if its a read only file?
[09:58] <SupeR> sanmarcos: i cant even sudo if i disabled the root account
[09:58] <sycho> any suggestions for a good torrent client?
[09:58] <dell500> k
[09:58] <{K}Lubby> or did i open the file wrong san?
[09:59] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, the lines after the "iface" line should be indented, my bad
[09:59] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[09:59] <knowwho> !ice
[09:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about ice - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:00] <{K}Lubby> okay
[10:00] <{K}Lubby> and what do i do for network and broadcast? i have no clue what they are
[10:00] <el_isma> dell500 I found this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/ , a proyect to support ext2 in Os X. Don't know how well it works, /if/ it works
[10:00] <mwe> SupeR: why do you want root login? you can just sudo -i to get a root prompt when you've logged in
[10:00] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, that is a sample for a static ip http://pastebin.ca/126223
[10:00] <SupeR> mwe: that's exactly what i want
[10:01] <playtime3> when i install ubuntu it never ask me make a root password, how do i find out my root password?
[10:01] <SupeR> mwe: but now, i have a system where i entered root as username in installation
[10:01] <dell500> this is wierd, konquorer isn't working... loads pages but no images
[10:01] <hawkaloogie> playtime3, there is no root password
[10:01] <hawkaloogie> !root > playtime3
[10:01] <SupeR> mwe: so now, i can login with root in ssh
[10:01] <playtime3> so what do i do hawk?
[10:01] <{K}Lubby> okay, but since i have it set for 192.168.0.whatever i want to change that in the example right?
[10:01] <SupeR> mwe: and i want to know what is the different with my previous installation where i entered my username in installation instead of root
[10:01] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, network is not required, broadcast should be fine as  it is in my example
[10:01] <hawkaloogie> playtime3, use sudo
[10:01] <playtime3> ok let me try
[10:02] <mopflite> playtime3: the first user that you created has sudo privileges
[10:02] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, man interfaces if you really want to know
[10:02] <sanmarcos> !root > sanmarcos
[10:02] <mwe> SupeR: I don't know what happens if you enter root as the user name
[10:02] <mopflite> !root > mopflite
[10:02] <playtime3> ohhh so i dont need to try log in as root?
[10:02] <mwe> SupeR: You don't have a normal user then?
[10:02] <SupeR> mwe: only 1 user exist which is root, and i can do ssh as root by default
[10:02] <hawkaloogie> playtime3, no. read what ubotu told you
[10:02] <SupeR> mwe: no, i don't
[10:02] <Quuar> I think theres an outdated package in the repos?
[10:02] <mopflite> heh, that redirection is cool
[10:02] <SupeR> that's what i am trying to find out what happen
[10:02] <{K}Lubby> so i dont need the network line?
[10:02] <playtime3> u guys saying it too fast i cant read it lol
[10:03] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, not required
[10:03] <SupeR> and if possible to fix this without reinstalling
[10:03] <Quuar> playtime3: use your scrollback buffer
[10:03] <{K}Lubby> okay... and do i need the name line?
[10:03] <mwe> SupeR: create a normal user which is in the admin group and use that. you don't want a root only system
[10:03] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, if you dont know it, just don put it in, but you do need broadcast, you can get that from your router, or just leave that example in there
[10:03] <{K}Lubby> okay
[10:03] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, no, you dont need the name line also
[10:04] <{K}Lubby> and btw, i dont have a router for this connection, its my ubuntu computer to my windows xp computer using a crossover computer
[10:04] <SupeR> yeah, but how about the ssh? the config is exactly the same as my other system, but this one allow root to login
[10:04] <dragonguy> hello, how can I load my Ubuntu into shell model but not Gnome? thanks a lot
[10:04] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, when you talk to me, use my name so I see you more clearly
[10:04] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, okay
[10:04] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, its okay, you can use dhcp if wxp supports it also
[10:05] <{K}Lubby> sanmarcos, how do i turn dhcp on or install it or whatever? (i've got wxp home)
[10:06] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, just /etc/init.d/dhcp start afaik, or whatever it is called
[10:06] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, I assume you know what dhcp is, it will just do your network config for you
[10:06] <{K}Lubby> yeah, i know what dhcp is
[10:07] <{K}Lubby> san, i just don't know how to start it (i dont think xp comes with it though)
[10:07] <feet> on first install of ubuntu, my webcam is recognised. an dist-upgrade later, NOTHING recognises it. is there some way to get it back?
[10:09] <sanmarcos> feet, is it usb?
[10:09] <feet> ya
[10:09] <feet> its listed with lsusb
[10:09] <sanmarcos> try lsbusb
[10:09] <sanmarcos> oh ok
[10:09] <dell500> is there some special way to make a new partition onto a usb sata?
[10:09] <sanmarcos> what model/brand is it?
[10:10] <{K}Lubby> this thing is KILLING me
[10:10] <sanmarcos> dell500, ehh no, usb is just an interface
[10:10] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, dont use dhcp if its not supported
[10:10] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, use the static method, set it up right, its like 4 lines
[10:10] <{K}Lubby> i got it to work instantly when the ubuntu was on xp, but i want it on ubuntu :\
[10:10] <sanmarcos> then sudo ifconfig ethX down && ifconfg ethX up
[10:10] <{K}Lubby> san what's that do?
[10:10] <feet> genius videocam nb. uses that sn9x-blah driver
[10:11] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, huh?
[10:11] <sanmarcos> feet, make sure its loaded, lsmod
[10:11] <{K}Lubby> sudo ifconfig ethX down && ifconfg ethX up
[10:11] <{K}Lubby> and is the ifconfg supposed to be ifconfig?
[10:11] <sanmarcos> replace ethX with your real interface. It justs restarts that interface for the new settings to take place
[10:11] <Ademan> is there any way to force gedit to read a file that it "can't figure out the locale" of?
[10:11] <sanmarcos> yes
[10:11] <el_isma> dell500 ..... have you tried anything we said? You asked that question at least 3 times!! :|
[10:12] <FloK> pls could you tell me how to check what version of pkg is installed?
[10:12] <sanmarcos> FloK, apt-cache policy package
[10:12] <FloK> thc
[10:13] <{K}Lubby> san, it says permission denied
[10:13] <dell500> el_isma, yes i have
[10:13] <dell500> el_isma, i've used cfdisk and qtparted
[10:13] <dell500> neither have worked.
[10:13] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, use sudo
[10:13] <sanmarcos> FloK, or use dpkg -p packaname also
[10:13] <{K}Lubby> san, sudo at the start?
[10:13] <feet> oh it isnt sanmarcos
[10:13] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, every systemwide action requires sudo, yes
[10:14] <feet> how do i add that module myself
[10:14] <sanmarcos> sudo echo "modulename" >> /etc/modules
[10:14] <el_isma> dell500 well, tell us what errors they say....
[10:14] <{K}Lubby> it still says permission denied
[10:14] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, what command?
[10:14] <feet> permission denied o_o
[10:14] <el_isma> dell500 there aren't really that many different ways to partition a HD
[10:14] <DBO> sanmarcos, the redirect wont work, have him sudo -s, then run the command
[10:14] <{K}Lubby> sudo ifconfig eth0 down && eth0 up
[10:15] <sanmarcos> DBO, ah yeah sorry
[10:15] <sanmarcos> feet, sudo nano /etc/modules and add your module name ad the end
[10:15] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, that wont work
[10:15] <sanmarcos> sorry I am sleepy.
[10:15] <feet> ok let me have a go
[10:15] <{K}Lubby> isn't that what you said to do?
[10:15] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, sudo -i, then do  ifconfig eth0 down && eth0 up
[10:15] <sanmarcos> yeah my bad
[10:16] <dell500> el_isma, i know, errors said there was no file system
[10:16] <dell500> and cfdisk said something about the boot flag being enabled or something
[10:16] <{K}Lubby> san, its fine lol
[10:16] <feet> will i need to restart or anything san?
[10:16] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, make sure you type "exit" once you are done
[10:16] <el_isma> dell500 when you run qtparted, do you see the usb sata disk at the left?
[10:16] <{K}Lubby> san, now it says "bash: eth0: command not found"
[10:17] <sanmarcos> feet, no, /etc/modules is the list of modules to load at boot. Normally it should auto detect your webcam, but if it doesnt then no.
[10:17] <dell500> el_isma, ya, it shows /dev/sdc
[10:17] <Quuar> WHO WROTE EasyUbuntu!!!
[10:17] <dell500> which is the usb hd
[10:17] <sanmarcos> feet, just modprobe modulename, then use your webcam
[10:17] <el_isma> dell500 and when you click it, what does it say?
[10:17] <feet> ok let me have a look
[10:17] <sanmarcos> {K}Lubby, you are typing something wrong in your command
[10:17] <feet> will running apps need to be restarted?
[10:17] <{K}Lubby> ifconfig eth0 down && eth0 up
[10:18] <{K}Lubby> i did that after i did sudo -i
[10:18] <dell500> el_isma, make new partition, i do that, specify fat32... then it says something about the file system not being installed
[10:18] <el_isma> try ifconfig eth0 up