Testers: would someone please verify and comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/+bug/1899854


[08:10] <pconst167> Hi all
[11:15] <kjerome> Hi all, a few days ago I was told I could post patches for review here - I submitted a patch for the bug reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-browsed/+bug/2028172 - can anyone take a look at it?
[11:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2028172 in cups-browsed (Ubuntu) "Cups-browsed cannot bind to port 631 as non-root user on Ubuntu 23.04" [Undecided, New]
[11:15] <kjerome> Should I post on #ubuntu-sponsors as well?


[01:06] <axw> babbageclunk: you said in standup you wanted some advice on something?
[04:07] <blahdeblah> Anyone started looking at lp:1618212 ?  Just got it after upgrading from 2.0.3 to 2.1.2, which means that I can't upgrade any of the models, because I can't list them.
[04:14] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: m looking at a bug that feels related
[04:14] <blahdeblah> Well, let me know if you need to look at anything in this env.
[04:14] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: but this bug is about model destruction not listing...
[04:15] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: logs r always helpful, mayb even a db dump (altho with 40+models sounds scary...)
[04:16] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: I just took a backup, so you can have that if needed.  (This is the same env which led me to create lp:1680683.)
[04:16] <blahdeblah> The backup is 6 GB
[04:17] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: m saying that the bug u referenced above is about destruction, not listing... altho frankly i am ware and kind of looking at both issues - the destruction of the model as well as lsiting of models...
[04:17] <anastasiamac> aware even
[04:18] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: you must be reading a different bug to me; 1618212 is definitely about listing models
[04:19] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: the title says "juju models fails during model destruction"
[04:19] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: Every commenter on that bug says they're getting the error from "juju models".
[04:20] <blahdeblah> It might be related to destruction in some way under the covers, but where it shows up in the user experience is listing models.
[04:21] <blahdeblah> And I've just encountered it while listing models after an upgrade, no destruction involved.
[04:21] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: i think the problems r related - we cannot cleanly destroy models under some circumstance, and list models gets confused
[04:21] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: specifically for list models, I have: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1674805 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1676279
[04:21] <mup> Bug #1674805: list-models fails after model is destroyed after model migration <ci> <intermittent-failure> <list-models> <model-migration> <juju:Triaged by anastasia-macmood> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1674805>
[04:21] <mup> Bug #1676279: juju 2.1.1 controller not removing models correctly (list-models showing "info: settings not found") <destroy-model> <list-models> <juju:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1676279>
[04:22] <blahdeblah> maybe one of those will match my problem better
[04:22]  * blahdeblah looks
[04:22] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: definitely worth a comment on any related bug that matches ur case ;)...
[04:23] <blahdeblah> 1676279 seems like a dup of 1618212 to me
[04:24] <blahdeblah> so does 1674805, TBH
[04:26] <blahdeblah> But neither matches better, so 1618212 will do for now
[04:26] <blahdeblah> I think, however, that destroy-models might be a distraction, since I got the error message without trying to destroy anything.
[04:27] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: yeah... i think the underlying cause is the same but all are coming from slightly different angles.. yes, there is an issue in both destroy and list - slightly different issue...
[04:28] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: hence, i said that the bug u referenced was for destroy... ppl just started putting list models comments into it
[04:28] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: at the end of the day, both issues needs to b fixed so feel free to update whichever bugs feels closer to u :D
[04:29] <blahdeblah> Well, you know the code better than I
[04:29]  * anastasiamac laughs
[04:29] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: u made my day, really
[04:30] <blahdeblah> There was no model destruction involved in my case, yet I ended up with the same error message.  So if you want a new bug that says "juju models fails after juju-upgrade", I'm happy to supply one.
[04:31] <blahdeblah> Number of anastasiamac PRs on juju > number of blahdeblah PRs on juju; hence, you know the code better than I. ;-)
[04:31] <blahdeblah> (where number of blahdeblah PRs on juju == 0)
[04:39] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: my first, almost knee-jerk reaction is "no! i don't want another bug"
[04:39] <blahdeblah> I figured ;-)
[04:39] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: but i think it'd b better if u did report it separately... besides i do want to see ur logs and db...
[04:40] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: coz we have not heard (I *think*) of probelms when upgrading...
[04:41] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: *after* upgrading
[04:41] <blahdeblah> So, is that a "yes, I do want another bug"?
[04:41] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: and m pretty sure we test upgrades extensively...
[04:41] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: Personally, I don't think it would achieve much
[04:42] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: no, let's not for now :)
[04:42] <blahdeblah> I think what's happening is there were models which were marked as destroying when I started the upgrade.
[04:43] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: yeah, that's the symptoms m seeing in all other similar failures
[04:43] <anastasiamac> lingering/ghosting models
[04:45] <blahdeblah> yeah - given axino's comments in 1676279, I think once you fix one, you'll fix them all
[04:46] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: i wonder if his db surgery on the models marked as 'destroying' will get u unblocked.. at least while we r sorting the issue..
[04:47] <blahdeblah> I still disagree that this isn't a bug in listing; regardless of whether a previous destroy left some models lingering, "juju models" should keep working.
[04:47] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: but since u r dealing with production as well, mayb not the most desirable way forward...
[04:47] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: there is nothing to disagree - I agree that listing has a bug
[04:48] <blahdeblah> No, not the most desirable way forward, but if we can't list models, JAAS will probably be a bit dead in the water, so it may be necessary.
[05:33] <blahdeblah> urulama: ^ See discussion above; looks like there are at least 3 bugs about destroyed/ing models staying in DB
[05:33] <urulama> juju bugs for breakfast \o/
[05:33] <urulama> :)
[06:14] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: How likely is it that those model listing/destroying bugs will be fixed in a 2.1.x update?
[06:15] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: i thought u said that u r seeing in after the upgrade to 2.1.x already... 2.1.2 specifically?..
[06:16] <blahdeblah> Yep
[06:16] <blahdeblah> So how likely is it that we'll see a fix in 2.1.[3-5]?
[06:16] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: we have not planning another 2.1.x... most likely in 2.2...? unless the sky falls?...
[06:17] <blahdeblah> I thought that might be your answer.  :-)
[06:17] <blahdeblah> thanks
[06:18] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: just for reference, m still trying to figure out what goes wrong... i can reproduce destroy failure... i also *know* what's causing issues on list... but until i can nail it down, i don't know if it is easy to backport and release another 2.1.x...
[06:19] <blahdeblah> No worries - just trying to work out best course of action for this controller on which models can't be listed.
[06:19] <blahdeblah> urulama: ^ You mind checking whether us-east-1 is still functional from your perspective?
[06:19] <anastasiamac> blahdeblah: m guessing that u have tried the standard?
[06:20] <blahdeblah> anastasiamac: "the standard"?
[06:20] <blahdeblah> not as yet, but I will
[06:21] <urulama> blahdeblah: that was aws, right?
[06:21] <blahdeblah> yep
[06:22] <urulama> ok, looks fine, but i'll check with some big users as well
[10:25] <wpk> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwYF43OiGvHjWkFnLVJCVlFaRFk
[10:26] <wpk> ^^^ that's a dependency graph for juju/juju/api/
[11:04] <rogpeppe> anyone around to review this large but mechanical code-move branch: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7213
[18:27] <cmars> anyone available this friday afternoon for a quick review?
[18:28] <cmars> i've got https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/7214 which fixes critical bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1680883


[21:26] <orated> Hello! I'm getting "qemu: Unsupported syscall: 184" lines after running almost every command on chroot using  qemu-arm-static emulator. What does the repeated lines mean?


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[20:28] <Bronze> hi, noticed that the topic here says that the Pi is ARMv6 and that this channel is for ARMv7 discuission.  What is the difference between those?
[20:33] <infinity> Bronze: ARMv6 is an older instruction set, Ubuntu only targets 7 and above, so can't run on the Pi.
[20:34] <Bronze> Thank you.
[20:34] <Bronze> (and rats... :-)   )
[21:30] <sp4wnr0ot> ping #ubuntu-arm, Guys someone had test with qemu + raspbian + retropie ? I'm getting this error when I try to run "emulationstation"  returns "* failed to open vchiq instance" , What is it ? Some idea ?
[21:34] <sp4wnr0ot> ?
[21:36] <k1l> you are aware, that raspbian is a debian fork and ubuntu doesnt support that old ARM chip on the pi?
[21:39] <sp4wnr0ot> k1l: heap, I'm just trying test "emulation state" on qemu first
[21:39] <sp4wnr0ot> yeap*
[21:40] <sp4wnr0ot> emulationstate*
[21:40] <sp4wnr0ot> emulationstation* sorry again
[21:45] <Nothing_Much> Can somebody tell me how to get libhybris to work on the desktop version of (x)Ubuntu 13.10 and Wayland/Weston?
[21:53] <Nothing_Much> Anyone?
[22:03] <Nothing_Much> Does anybody here know how to get libhybris enabled on an arm version of Ubuntu?
[22:09] <Nothing_Much> Hm.
[22:16] <Nothing_Much> Anybody know how to get libhybris to work on an Ubuntu desktop?
[22:21] <Nothing_Much> Can I get some help with llibhybris on an Armhf Ubuntu desktop?
[23:50] <Nothing_Much> Can I get some help with llibhybris on an Armhf Ubuntu desktop?
[23:56] <infinity> Nothing_Much: I'm not sure that asking 5 times is any better than 4.  You might try asking politely in #ubuntu-touch, where there are some people who actually know hybris.  But only ask once, ideally.


[00:00] <valorie> how are you liking latte dock?
[00:00] <AlexZion> I played a bit with the customizations of plasma and it's awesome
[00:01] <AlexZion> I like it, is very flexible, functional and very nice and clean
[00:02] <valorie> yup, I love the direction they are going
[00:03] <AlexZion> I like a lot the way it works to hide itself, optimizing always the space
[00:03] <valorie> basically to make it work for everyone
[00:10] <AlexZion> so should I try with the method suggested on the bug report ( https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2015/fedora-nvidia-guide/4/ ) or istead wait a solution from the upgrade process ?
[00:12] <tsimonq2> acheronuk, @nggraham, valorie: What are your thoughts regarding bug 1760512?
[00:18] <valorie> is this the gnome-keyring problem?
[00:18] <tsimonq2> On first glance it seems like it but it really isn't.
[00:19] <valorie> mmm
[00:19] <valorie> so we don't enable kwallet in falkon by default?
[00:19] <tsimonq2> I'm not sure, to be honest.
[00:19] <tsimonq2> It apparently can be easily enabled.
[00:20] <valorie> right, but would people realize why their passwords were not being saved?
[00:20] <valorie> I like kwallet and it's always worked for me
[00:20] <valorie> but evidently that is not universal
[00:20] <tsimonq2> Hmm.
[00:20] <tsimonq2> The GNOME keyring plugin is no longer shipped.
[00:20] <tsimonq2> Maybe it's a good idea?
[00:21] <tsimonq2> I dunno, I'll let Rik comment on it.
[00:21] <valorie> I would think so
[00:21] <valorie> if people already have that, then why not use it?
[00:22] <valorie> but I need dinner, so I'm out for now.....
[00:22] <tsimonq2> Bai.
[00:24] <AlexZion> here instead is a bit late and for me is time to take a rest
[00:24] <tsimonq2> o/
 no idea and too late today to look now
[00:28] <tsimonq2> Simple, then look tomorrow. ;P
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[01:25] <mamarley> acheronuk: I'm not sure.  It looks like 304 was dropped in Bionic and is unsupported upstream.  Usually the policy of the Graphics Drivers PPA is not to deal with unsupported driver versions.
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[12:40] <acheronuk> mamarley: it's still on the nvidia site for download :/
[12:41] <acheronuk> I suppose have to draw the line somewhere
[12:43] <mamarley> Hmm, OK.  Maybe we can do something.  I don't have any hardware on which 304 runs though, so I wouldn't be able to test it.
[12:44] <acheronuk> me neither
 Re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/falkon/+bug/1760512
 as long as it depends on KWallet, I think we should ship it alongside. And then hope that upstream can break that hard-ish dependency in the future and/oir improve the UX for users who don't have or want it
 but in the meantime I think it's reasonable that the KDE web browser would depend on the KDE password management system
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[14:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2151: SUCCESS in 1 min 18 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2151/
[14:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2151: SUCCESS in 4 min 19 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2151/
[16:44]  * sick_rimmit Woosh!! teleports into room
[19:00] <valorie> no beta 2 yet, I guess
[19:01] <valorie> nope
[19:08] <acheronuk> valorie: no archive block in place yet, and it will be quite some time after that the isos are spun. so I suspect very late today, or tommorow
[19:09] <valorie> doesn't leave us much time for testing!
[19:09] <valorie> another busy week ahead I guess
[19:24] <acheronuk> valorie: similar for artful, looking at the logs
[19:25] <acheronuk> at least oem and wi-fi should work this time I hope!
[19:25] <valorie> YES!
[19:25] <valorie> I hope we got the promised testers this round, which will help a lot