[12:14] <VSpike> |ericsson|: In fact, the menu is different: Settings Help Edit View Tools
[12:14] <|ericsson|> don: then there is another nvidia package
[12:14] <don> i have real good ones but they are ATI
[12:14] <VSpike> |ericsson|: and the Settings-> Toolbars contains: Search, Detailed List View, and Extra.
[12:14] <Chris73> don: in that file goto section device and change nv to nvidia
[12:14] <don> card works well with windows
[12:15] <chemist109> don: install nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:15] <Etokura> amrush, I honestly don't know, sorry
[12:15] <Chris73> don; that way you'll be using the nvidia driver when you restart X
[12:15] <don> i tried ill try again i am shure that is it
[12:15] <Etokura> Gnome gave me alot of problems, so I switched to KDE
[12:16] <|ericsson|> don: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[12:16] <stoft> nn ppl
[12:16] <|ericsson|> sorry chemist109, didn't see you there ;)
[12:16] <don> I load itin adept what else todo?
[12:16] <|ericsson|> VSpike: that's really creepy :)
[12:16] <chemist109> don: be sure that you have also install linux-restricted-modules
[12:16] <don> oh that is my command!
[12:17] <don> thanks
[12:17] <|ericsson|> stoft: You interested in buying a USB drive from Alarm?
[12:17] <Chris73> don: it's working?
[12:17] <stoft> |ericsson|: sure thing! ;)
[12:17] <VSpike> |ericsson|: yeah :) It's like it's kicking off in a different mode or something
[12:17] <chemist109> |ericsson|: 's alright
[12:17] <|ericsson|> stoft: think you could get it quite cheap by now ;)
[12:17] <stoft> |ericsson|: trying to get me while I'm sleepy and weak? ;)
[12:17] <don> still trying
[12:17] <anon32> how do I adjust swappiness? and what's a sane amount?
[12:18] <|ericsson|> stoft: you know it.. ;)
[12:18] <stoft> :)
[12:18] <don> i still like kubuntu best
[12:18] <|ericsson|> VSpike: freak mode..
[12:18] <Chris73> don: you'll need to restart X to have the driver loaded
[12:18] <don> how
[12:18] <stoft> anon32: for me sane is >= ram, some suspend modes write to ram to swap, you don't want it to be smaller in that case.
[12:19] <anon32> stoft, not amount of swap... I want to adjust how aggressively it swaps
[12:19] <don> what is restart x?
[12:19] <|ericsson|> don -> ctrl+alt+backspace, but that shuts down X w/o warning
[12:19] <stoft> anon32: ah, no idea, sorry
[12:19] <don> ok
[12:19] <stoft> oh well, going to bed, dead tired.
[12:20] <don> here goes
[12:20] <|ericsson|> stoft: so that means that you'll take the drive? ;))
[12:20] <|ericsson|> I think we'll gonna have nightmares about his drive
[12:20] <chemist109> don:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[12:21] <Chris73> don: that's the link i was looking for :-)
[12:21] <don> where do I get linux restricted modules?
[12:21] <Etokura> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[12:22] <don> Thank  you Chris
[12:22] <Chris73> don: you got the resolution you want now?
[12:22] <andre> hey guys,  can anyone recommend a good site on how to install bugzilla on ubuntu?
[12:22] <chemist109> don: sudo apt-get install linux-restricte-modules-`uname -v`
[12:23] <don> ok
[12:23] <|ericsson|> apt-get install more-memory doesn't work :(
[12:23] <chemist109> don: those marks arount uname -v are backticks, not single quotes
[12:23] <lontra> andre: why would you install bugzilla?
[12:23] <chemist109> don: you get them from the upper left key (the one with the ~)
[12:23] <Mountainman> .
[12:24] <chemist109> don: I also misspelled restricted
[12:24] <andre> lontra: for bug reporting purposes of my project,  why else?
[12:24] <don> ok
[12:24] <Amaranth> Can someone unban purpleposeidon for me? I've tested him, exploit fixed.
[12:24] <chemist109> don: You also need to reboot if you install those kernel modules
[12:25] <Amaranth> LjL: thanks
[12:25] <don> ok
[12:27] <|ericsson|> I've got some weird process running: ericsson  6597  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    Apr30   0:00 [netstat]  <defunct> Anyone know what that is?
[12:28] <Filthpig> ...
[12:28] <Filthpig> well
[12:28] <Filthpig> things SEEM to be back to normal
[12:28] <pythonist> Hello .. Viva ubuntu
[12:28] <|ericsson|> I have bastille who refuses to die, could this "defunct" netstat cause problems? Starting to think I need to shutdown it's server :(
[12:29] <Filthpig> my system seemed to get a real wedgie with that update
[12:32] <elspuddy> hi i'v just installed kubuntu and i was wondering if there is a linux version of floats moble agent or some sore of varent ?
[12:32] <Plextor> hi... when i reboot my pc, X doesn't load automatically, i have to enter login and password, then type "startX"... can i change something so it will be done automatically?
[12:33] <shad0w> i got the same question as Plextor
[12:36] <Sanne> Plextor: in Kubuntu the program responsible for the graphical login is kdm. Do you have it installed? does the command give you any output: dpkg -l kdm | grep ^ii
[12:36] <amrush> Etokura .. I'm tired of this .. I will try to find a solution later .. thanks for your help .. :)
[12:37] <Etokura> No problem amrush.. Sorry I couldn't help you more
[12:37] <amrush> it's alright :) .. night
[12:37] <Etokura> Good night
[12:38] <Powerking89670> Can someone point me in the direction of the best way to update from Dapper Drake to Fiesty Fawn. Ive looked on both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu sites. the Ubuntu site suggest gksu but Kubuntu does not recognize this command
[12:38] <shad0w> i have the kdm as my default
[12:39] <shad0w> but after i rebooted the pc a couple of times it stopped working
[12:39] <shad0w> and now i have to select the safemode grub boot option and it takes me to the terminal and from there i can run kdm
[12:40] <don> chris it said invalid install
[12:41] <Plextor> Sanne, yes it is installed
[12:41] <Sanne> shad0w: you can check if it's still set to start at boot time. Please open konsole and type: kcontrol
[12:42] <Sanne> Plextor: you can check if it's still set to start at boot time. Please open konsole and type: kcontrol
[12:42] <Sanne> shad0w: sorry, meant Plextor, but you can also check, of course ;)
[12:42] <Sanne> Plextor: tell me when ready
[12:43] <pingveno> I'm trying to get eric4 installed on my computer, but it needs qscintilla2. I don't think QScintilla2 is in the feisty repository. Should I just install from source?
[12:43] <Plextor> Sanne, system administration -> login manager?
[12:43] <pingveno> Or am I missing something
[12:43] <Plextor> Sanne, well yes i'm in there
[12:44] <shad0w> and where is it supposed to say if its set to start at boot time?
[12:44] <pingveno> oops, I think I found it
[12:44] <Sanne> Plextor: close ;). System administration -> System Services. Find kdm. It says here: kdm Yes running
[12:44] <Skyblast> !mythtv
[12:44] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[12:45] <Plextor> Sanne, ok thnx, found it
[12:45] <Sanne> Plextor: what does it say?
[12:45] <Plextor> i changed it to load when booting
[12:45] <Plextor> it wasn't checked
[12:46] <Sanne> Plextor: ah, then maybe that was the problem. Hope it works now :)
[12:46] <shad0w> i dont know im having second thoughts about checking it
[12:46] <Plextor> Sanne, going to reboot, thanks )
[12:46] <Sanne> shad0w: it's not dangerous ;)
[12:46] <Sanne> Plextor: good luck
[12:46] <shad0w> because it starts by default with the other boot option grub gives me but freezes when its there
[12:46] <shad0w> i know its not dangerous but what if the same thing happens
[12:46] <shad0w> then im screwed
[12:47] <Sanne> shad0w: ok, then you may have problems... whish I could help more.
[12:48] <shad0w> thanks anyway
[12:48] <Sanne> shad0w: if nobody here knows, I would search at launchpad for bugs, and ubuntuforums if somebody already has the same problem.
[12:48] <Sanne> shad0w: yw :)
[12:49] <shad0w> wel it doesnt really matter im used to having to get to a login screen with Slax anyway
[12:50] <pingveno> I'm trying to install qscintilla2 and its python bindings alongside qscintilla 1
[12:50] <pingveno> Is there anything special I need to do?
[12:51] <Sanne> shad0w: ok :) I agree, typing startx is not too bad, I also did it for some years.
[12:53] <Sanne> pingveno: if it's from the official repositories, it should work, or tell you if it wants to remove qscintilla1.
[12:53] <aaroncampbell> In my printers section, I have a "Print to file (PDF)" printer listed, but it doesn't seem to show when I try to print something (like from firefox)
[12:54] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: you would need to tell firefox to use kprinter for printing.
[12:54] <pingveno> I just took a closer look at qscintilla2. It's in heavy development
[12:54] <pingveno> So it's *definitely* not in the Fiesty repository :-P
[12:54] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: how so?   In the dialog box find the line "Print Command" and put kprinter in there (you may want to back up the original line somewhere, just in case)
[12:56] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: The only options I have when I click properties from the print dialog are: Paper Size, Color, and margins (top, bottom, left, and right)
[12:57] <Powerking89670> Can anyone tell me how to kill a program that is running but its window has closed?
[12:57] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: you don't have a line "Print Command" under "Paper Size"?
[12:59] <Dragnslcr> Powerking89670- if you know how to use a shell, you can use kill. Otherwise, Menu -> System -> KSysGuard lets you kill processes
[12:59] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: nope
[12:59] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: I make a screenshot, sec
[12:59] <Powerking89670> Thank you :D
[01:00] <lontra> !ndiswrapper
[01:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:01] <baskitcaise> Powerking89670: Ctrl+Esc brings up ksysguard quicker
[01:01] <dew_> hey all, anybody know how to get a wireless bcm4318 card working in kubuntu with ndiswrapper?
[01:02] <dew_> I've tried everything and it won't work
[01:02] <dew_> can see networks, but that's it...
[01:02] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: http://imagebin.org/8416
[01:02] <baskitcaise> dew: are you sure it is using ndiswrapper driver or the kernel OS bcm43xx
[01:03] <stdin> dew_: haven't got that card, but try bcm43xx-fwcutter
[01:03] <dew_> i've tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[01:03] <dew_> yeah, I'm sure I'm using ndiswrapper
[01:03] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: I guess you have to be on the Postscript/Default printer when you choose it
[01:04] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: aaah! Yes, that may be. I have only that one listed, so it didn't occur to me to mention it.
[01:04] <scast> How much space in GB is enough for a / partition? Like 10 GB?
[01:04] <dew_> ndiswrapper -l gives me "bcmwl5 : driver installed"
[01:04] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: I did that, got the option, added the command, and basically, if you choose the postcript printer and choose print, you get another print dialog...a bit convoluted, but it works
[01:04] <dew_> stdin, it worked with bcm43xx-fwcutter, but I found it too flaky
[01:04] <Powerking89670> Thank you again :D
[01:05] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: thanks
[01:05] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: yes, that's how it's supposed to work, you get an additional kprinter dialog.
[01:05] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: you're welcome :)
[01:06] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: there's also the option to print to file (*.ps), then run ps2pdf on that file.
[01:06] <baskitcaise> dew_: do you see thre bcm43xx in ls,od?
[01:07] <baskitcaise> whoops sorry , do you see the bcm43xx in lsmod
[01:07] <baskitcaise> if so then you need to blacklist it
[01:07] <aaroncampbell> Sanne: Thanks...this is working great.  Seems kind of weird...I can choose postscript, rather than my main printer (a Konica Minolta magicolor), and then I can still use kprinter to print to it.  ;)
[01:07] <dew_> baskitcaise, yeah, I've already blacklisted it
[01:07] <baskitcaise> Ok
[01:07] <Sanne> aaroncampbell: yeah, it's weird ;)
[01:08] <baskitcaise> When you do the ndiswrapper -l does it actually say "hardware present"?
[01:08] <SubOne> I think I have something going on in the background, it is causing al my games to drop framerate about every 5 seconds. How do I track it down?
[01:08] <dew_> it says "device (14E4:4318) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"
[01:09] <SubOne> You don't need to use ndis for bcm43xx
[01:09] <dew_> after "bcmwl5 : driver installed" of course
[01:09] <SubOne> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[01:09] <SubOne> ^^^^ driver for bcm43xx
[01:11] <baskitcaise> SubOne: some chips don`t work with the opensource module, mine does not I get the same problem
[01:12] <dew_> subone, bcmxx-fwcutter works, but it's way too flaky
[01:12] <baskitcaise> I can see networks but not connect no matter what I try
[01:12] <SubOne> hmm i didnt know that, worked for me no problem
[01:12] <dew_> I had this card working fine in gnome under edgy
[01:12] <dew_> with ndiswrapper
[01:13] <SubOne> baskitcaise: did you use the fwcutter with it?
[01:13] <baskitcaise> Funny my card works fine in both with nothing special done exept using the xp driver
[01:13] <baskitcaise> Dew: no I used the driver from the CD ( winodws)
[01:14] <dew_> baskitcaise, I have dual boot
[01:14] <dew_> where can I find the driver and where should I copy it too?
[01:15] <SubOne> dew_: should be on your driver  install cds from the factory
[01:15] <baskitcaise> Have a search for it in trhe system or ststem32 dirs, I cannot remember off the top of my head and XP is on another disk
[01:15] <SubOne> dew_: http://freewebs.com/ronserver/bcm43xx.tar.gz
[01:16] <dew_> what's the file called?  bcmwl5*.* ?
[01:16] <SubOne> click the link dew
[01:17] <dew_> subone, done
[01:17] <dew_> now what do I do with them?
[01:18] <baskitcaise> dew_: have a look here: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php
[01:18] <scast> How much space in GB is enough for a / partition? Like 10 GB?
[01:19] <stdin> scast: minimum is 2GB, but 30GB is reccommended
[01:19] <scast> I need that much for a /? (I am going to keep my /home partition separated)
[01:19] <stdin> scast: especially if /home is on the same partition
[01:20] <stdin> scast: then 10GB will be plenty
[01:21] <scast> What kind of filesystem do you think works better with Kubuntu for a / partition? I was thinking on making /home ext3 and / XFS
[01:23] <SubOne> How do i stop apt-index-watch. It seems to be what is lagging my game.
[01:23] <K-Ryan> What game?
[01:24] <K-Ryan> Just curious
[01:24] <lettuce> hello
[01:24] <K-Ryan> Hi there lettuce
[01:24] <SubOne> diablo for one
[01:24] <stdin> scast: if you use xfs, make sure to install xfsprogs
[01:24] <SubOne> and web games also
[01:24] <lettuce> This place has been my freakin e-home for the past couple weeks lol
[01:24] <scast> stdin: Do I need to do that before, in or after installation?
[01:25] <K-Ryan> SubOne, alright so it isn't a driver issue.
[01:25] <K-Ryan> Give me two seconds I'll look into your problem.
[01:25] <lettuce> I need a link to the page with instructions for installing video card drivers for ubuntu
[01:25] <K-Ryan> !nvidia
[01:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:25] <K-Ryan> That link
[01:25] <K-Ryan> Should do it lettuce ;)
[01:25] <lettuce> thank you
[01:25] <K-Ryan> No problem
[01:26] <SubOne> K-Ryan: but it looks like apt-index-watch comes up every time it lags, which is every 5 seconds. How can i kill that to test
[01:26] <K-Ryan> Okay, start by going to System Settings
[01:26] <stdin> scast: after is ok, it just inclides the tools needed to manage the FS (like fsck.xfs)
[01:27] <SubOne> k
[01:27] <K-Ryan> Click the Advanced tab up top
[01:27] <scast> Oh, I see.
[01:27] <K-Ryan> Then the System Services icon
[01:27] <K-Ryan> When that window pops up, click administrator mode and pop in your pass
[01:27] <K-Ryan> Then select apt-index-watcher
[01:27] <K-Ryan> and Click stop
[01:28] <K-Ryan> I think
[01:29] <SubOne> k one sec
[01:29] <srinidhi> hi all. I have a problem with vcd mount in feisty, kubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15
[01:31] <stdin> srinidhi: you don't mount a vcd
[01:31] <stdin> srinidhi: you just play iy
[01:31] <stdin> *ittr
[01:31] <stdin> **it
[01:31] <srinidhi> it doesnt even mount
[01:31] <SubOne> K-Ryan: it looks like that was it, is there any way to get that to stop doing that lol
[01:32] <srinidhi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416471&highlight=vcd
[01:32] <SubOne> K-Ryan: or is keeping it off the only solution
[01:32] <K-Ryan> Hmm, I dunno.
[01:32] <K-Ryan> If that's what's causing the issue, probably have to turn it off.
[01:32] <K-Ryan> Granted I'm not sure what it does, so there might be more to it.
[01:32] <flaccid> i just tried to install vmware server and it said i needed to run the uninstall script, however it doesn't exist on my system. this must be from vmware-player. what do i do?
[01:32] <K-Ryan> Feel free to ask others
[01:32] <mahdi> srinidhi: you mean the drive doesn't mount when there's a vcd in it?
[01:32] <srinidhi> yes
[01:32] <srinidhi> mahdi:
[01:33] <srinidhi> i can mount manually but none of the players are able to play
[01:33] <SubOne> K-Ryan: my guess is it checks for updated packages
[01:33] <stdin> you don't mount a VCD (like a DVD) it's played raw
[01:33] <mahdi> i've no experience with vcd's per se
[01:34] <K-Ryan> SubOne, no idea. Good luck with it though ;)
[01:34] <SubOne> K-Ryan: well thanks for helping me turn it off
[01:34] <srinidhi> stdin: i know. but what if it dosent even mount ? :(
[01:34] <K-Ryan> Anytime
[01:34] <K-Ryan> I figure for what it's worth, this community helped me.
[01:34] <K-Ryan> It's the least I can do by helping others.
[01:34] <srinidhi> automount should happen right
[01:35] <srinidhi> ok. i can put it as vcd is not detected. but the problem is same
[01:35] <stdin> srinidhi: try just pointing your media player at the device
[01:35] <srinidhi> stdin: did but kaffeine crashes
[01:35] <srinidhi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/106786
[01:36] <srinidhi> here is teh bug report
[01:36] <lettuce> hello again
[01:36] <lettuce> I need the guide for installing xgl and beryl onto fiesty
[01:36] <K-Ryan> !beryl
[01:36] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:36] <K-Ryan> ;)
[01:37] <lettuce> doesn't ubuntu's wiki have a guide?
[01:37] <K-Ryan> Might
[01:37] <K-Ryan> You're probably best off checking the actual site though.
[01:38] <stdin> lettuce: the beryl website has a guide
[01:38] <K-Ryan> I know there was a guide on there somewhere because I found it when I installed Beryl.
[01:38] <luca> does anyone here know how to enable xgl or aiglx with nvidia-glx-new driver (up and running, downloaded from the nvidia site)?
[01:38] <mahdi> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Eye_Candy
[01:38] <stdin> lettuce: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_XGL
[01:38] <mahdi> shazam
[01:38] <cables> !effects | lettuce
[01:38] <ubotu> lettuce: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[01:39] <srinidhi> is there no way aroud this vcd problem? :(
[01:39] <K-Ryan> !wine
[01:39] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:40] <cables> luca, why did you go and download it from the Ubuntu site?
[01:40] <cables> luca, i mean the nVidia site?
[01:40] <cables> luca, that's the wrong way to install it.
[01:40] <K-Ryan> cables was right, it's best to just use the packages for it.
[01:40] <K-Ryan> Here..
[01:40] <K-Ryan> !nvidia | luca
[01:40] <ubotu> luca: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:40] <luca> cables: it did not function properly when installing from synaptics
[01:41] <luca> it does not function properly now either, but wanted to give it a try
[01:42] <flaccid> any vmware/feisty users ?
[01:42] <luca> K-Ryan: already gone through that
[01:42] <K-Ryan> What was the trouble?
[01:42] <luca> my problem is that the driver nvidia-glx
[01:43] <luca> does not function properly, in that I have xgl but NO suspension
[01:43] <luca> which is enabled with the latest driver
[01:43] <luca> as well as 3d and anything I can think of - BUT xg
[01:43] <luca> xgl
[01:43] <K-Ryan> hmm, iunno, not experienced with that kind of issue,
[01:43] <luca> I do not know why :(
[01:43] <K-Ryan> I just know that I used the packages and mine works fine
[01:44] <SubOne> Does anyone know why apt-index-watch is lagging my games every 5 seconds? I just started doing this yesterday.
[01:44] <stdin> luca: nvidia-xgl != glx (there is a difference between xgl and glx)
[01:44] <luca> eh I thought so before using the latest driver ;) now however I would like xgl back, 'cause obviously emerald/aquamarine/gtk-window-decorator do not function...
[01:44] <luca> stdin I will have a look thx
[01:44] <luca> sorry thought you had launched a tip ;)
[01:45] <luca> uhm in any case I have this error when I try to enable emerald: beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[01:46] <luca> I have added the line: Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" , but it does not make any effect
[01:46] <stdin> luca: default depth for xorg needs to be 24
[01:46] <stdin> (for nvidia)
[01:46] <soulrider__> flaccid: i use vmware
[01:47] <luca> stdin: how would i solve the issue then?
[01:47] <flaccid> soulrider: on feisty?
[01:48] <stdin> luca: either reconfigure the X server, or change the "DefaultDepth" part of /etx/X11/xorg.conf to "DefaultDepth    24"
[01:48] <soulrider> flaccid: no, i use Archlinux
[01:48] <flaccid> ok
[01:48] <gail> I have a simple question that I am challenged with finding an answer for . . . . . what is the native file system for Ubuntu 7.04?  Is it ext3, ext2, reiser?
[01:48] <luca> woah it is set to 16! :S
[01:48] <luca> that's very bad, I will try it :)
[01:49] <K-Ryan> ext3 if i'm not mistaken
[01:49] <luca> stdin: sure this should work?
[01:49] <stdin> gail: yeah, ext3
[01:49] <baskitcaise> ext3 AFAICS
[01:49] <K-Ryan> as far as i can see?
[01:49] <gail> right on!  thank you very much, have a good evening
[01:49] <K-Ryan> You too
[01:49] <K-Ryan> heheh, he said "right on!"
[01:49] <luca> ok trying to reboot
[01:49] <stdin> luca: I know that the nvidia driver needs default depth of 24, but I don't have an nvidia card, so I can't be 100%
[01:50] <luca> stdin: thanks a lot! :)
[01:50] <baskitcaise> K-Ryan: yep have not looked too far :-) all I know is it did not like reiser:-)
[01:50] <stdin> np :)
[01:50] <don> hi guys my resolition is fixed !
[01:50] <don> resolution
[01:50] <luca> in case I will just restore to 16, I know how to do it from command line by now :D
[01:50] <luca> bye
[01:50] <baskitcaise> My disk was already formatted in reiser ( ex-suse) and I did not change it, no boot ha ha.
[01:50] <stdin> !resolution | don
[01:50] <ubotu> don: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:51] <K-Ryan> stdin he said he fixed it
[01:51] <stdin> K-Ryan: fixed can meed "no longer broke" or "can't change", so just in case :P
[01:51] <don> i tried all that then i kept trading cards then it set up my nvida correctly
[01:51] <K-Ryan> Ah, good point.
[01:52] <don> thanks i will right that down
[01:54] <srinidhi> stdin: mahdi can i try anything else for this vcd problem ?
[01:54] <don> when I did that it said invalid install
[01:54] <stdin> srinidhi: does vlc or mplayer work?
[01:54] <deitarion> What was the command to upgrade to feisty? My mother's camera needs a newer version of spca5xx/gspcav1 than Edgy offers. (I know it works because my Gentoo box has the same model sitting on the right LCD)
[01:54] <srinidhi> no stdin
[01:54] <mahdi> srinidhi: can't say i know how, my experience with vcd's is very limited
[01:55] <stdin> !upgrade | deitarion
[01:55] <ubotu> deitarion: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[01:55] <srinidhi> oh ok mahdi
[01:55] <stdin> srinidhi: not sure then, you may have to wait  until it's fixed
[01:55] <srinidhi> hmm .. ok
[01:55] <srinidhi> anyways thanks  guys
[01:56] <mahdi> srinidhi: sorry, can you get any program to recognize it? perhaps to rip it and use the files
[01:56] <srinidhi> i am not even able to copy the video files
[01:56] <mahdi> srinidhi: does the device drive dissapear from fstab when you insert a vcd?
[01:57] <srinidhi> no mahdi
[01:57] <srinidhi> it dosent appear
[01:57] <srinidhi> but i can do mount /dev/cdrom
[01:57] <srinidhi> then it mounts it as media
[01:57] <srinidhi> but it doesnt play
[01:57] <mahdi> and i assume that won't let you use it either?
[01:58] <srinidhi> yes
[01:58] <stdin> thing about VCD is that the video is on another session (partition) on the CD
[01:58] <srinidhi> sudo cp /media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat /home/srinidhi/
[01:58] <srinidhi> cp: reading `/media/cdrom0/mpegav/avseq01.dat': Input/output error
[01:58] <srinidhi> this is what happens ehen i try to copy
[01:59] <flaccid> soulrider: i seem to get OS not found. doesn't look like you can change boot options for the partition it uses? im not sure how it works
[01:59] <mahdi> i believe k3b can make an iso from disc, have you tried mounting it manually and doing that?
[01:59] <soulrider> flaccid: no idea, maybe #vmware ?
[01:59] <flaccid> yep trying atm
[02:00] <KennyG> my live kubuntu cd is only letting me boot in safe graphics mode, what is this actually doing?
[02:00] <srinidhi> mahdi: will try that
[02:01] <stdin> KennyG: loading the VESA graphics driver
[02:01] <stdin> VESA = generic (works with anything) driver
[02:01] <KennyG> ah k
[02:01] <flaccid> qemu it might have to be
[02:03] <K-Ryan> !botsnack
[02:03] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:03] <K-Ryan> woo
[02:05] <srinidhi> unable to access the tracks though k3b either for creating a vcd or for ripping
[02:05] <don> where do you get the VESA  driver?
[02:08] <scast> Well, I am on the Live CD now :o
[02:09] <stdin> don: it's built in
[02:09] <don> ok in adept
[02:10] <don> I am very pleased now everything works
[02:10] <stdin> don: no, it's built in to the kernel. It's already installed
[02:10] <don> ok
[02:10] <K-Ryan> scast, trouble?
[02:11] <scast> stdin: what's your partitions scheme?
[02:11] <scast> K-Ryan: not really, haven't installed because I am trying to figure out what filesystem to use in my / partition and /home partition =P
[02:11] <don> i just fixed my resolution, stdin
[02:11] <K-Ryan> ext3
[02:11] <K-Ryan> hold on, let me look at mine just to be sure of the whole setup
[02:12] <K-Ryan> my / is ext3
[02:12] <mahdi> srinidhi: i think it may be in the hands of the devs, I don't know where else to check
[02:13] <don> there is an awful lot of very nice software in this package
[02:13] <K-Ryan> my boot is ext3
[02:13] <kristjan_> I would also recommend using only ext3, with xfs installer won't let you continue unless you also create 50MB ext3 /boot
[02:13] <K-Ryan> and swap is linux-swap
[02:13] <K-Ryan> So it should pretty much just be ext3
[02:13] <K-Ryan> Excluding the swap of course
[02:14] <kristjan_> make swap a little bigger than 1.5 of your ram if you plan to use suspend to disk
[02:14] <scast> You have /home in your / partition too?
[02:14] <K-Ryan> Yup
[02:14] <K-Ryan> kristjan_, 1.5 what?
[02:14] <stdin> scast: I have a 29 GB / and a 40GB /home (with a 1GB swap)
[02:14] <kristjan_> scast: it won't hurt having separate home partition (but it's very personal)
[02:15] <stdin> laptop PC w/ 80GB hdd
[02:15] <K-Ryan> Should I of seperated my / and /home?
[02:15] <kristjan_> 1.5xtimes the size of your ram if you plan to use suspend to disk
[02:15] <scast> I am thinking / partition with ext3 filesystem and /home with XFS but not sure.
[02:15] <K-Ryan> Oh, gotcha
[02:15] <kristjan_> K-Ryan: you don't have to
[02:15] <K-Ryan> But should I have done that?
[02:16] <K-Ryan> Just curious because I might start fresh when I get my Feisty CD
[02:16] <kristjan_> K-Ryan: I got separate /home and / and swap
[02:17] <K-Ryan> Would it make any difference if it was seperated?
[02:17] <scast> kristjan_: what filesystems do you use?
[02:17] <kristjan_> K-Ryan: I also have /testing partition
[02:17] <kristjan_> scast: ext3
[02:17] <scast> K-Ryan: in performance? I don't think so... perhaps if you switch distributions you only have to install your new distribution on the / partition.
[02:18] <K-Ryan> Alrighty
[02:19] <kristjan_> xfs is faster than ext3, but edgy installer won't let you use xfs partitions only (you have to create separate /boot with ext2 in order to use xfs on /home and /)
[02:20] <K-Ryan> Hey I've heard some rumors that games run better under Wine than they do Windows. Anyone know?
[02:20] <scast> Uhm, that's why I was thinking on creating / with ext3 and /home withs XFS but not sure.
[02:20] <stanley> hey someone showed me how to clear adept the otherday
[02:20] <K-Ryan> Because I need motivation to setup Wine =)
[02:20] <stanley> i din write it down or save it...does anyone know how to do this??
[02:20] <scast> K-Ryan: I don't think so, but might be, why not? XD
[02:20] <K-Ryan> Yeah, I mean I've got it installed and everything.
[02:20] <lontra> kicker: error while loading shared libraries: liblazy.so.0:  < -- what do i need to install?
[02:20] <kristjan_> scast: create then / and /home with xfs + /boot (about 100MB) with ext2
[02:20] <K-Ryan> I just lack the motivation to figure out what to do and everything.
[02:21] <stdin> stanley: clear adept?
[02:21] <stanley> yea
[02:21] <K-Ryan> I think he means thats string to terminate adept when it crashes
[02:21] <stanley> like when i open the program
[02:21] <K-Ryan> Guess not
[02:21] <stanley> it says that i would not be able to make any changes because the databse is in use by another application
[02:21] <stdin> !apt-fix
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <stdin> !aptfix
[02:22] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:22] <K-Ryan> yeah that
[02:22] <K-Ryan> I was right =)
[02:22] <stanley> yea thats it
[02:22] <scast> How much swap is enough?
[02:22] <scast> I already have a 1gb swap, is that too much? Too little?
[02:22] <K-Ryan> How much RAM ya' got?
[02:23] <scast> Uhm, let me check X_X
[02:23] <stanley> thanx guys
[02:23] <K-Ryan> Anytime stanley
[02:23] <cj_> scast: too much
[02:23] <K-Ryan> lol cj_
[02:23] <scast> 384mb
[02:23] <stdin> scast: depends on ram, about 1.5 - 2 x ram is reccommended
[02:23] <cj_> scast: thats a waste fo disk space
[02:23] <kristjan_> scast: it depends. how much ram do you have?
[02:23] <K-Ryan> 384, that's an odd amount
[02:23] <cj_> stdin: thats a fallacy
[02:23] <kristjan_> cj_: it's not waste if you want to suspend to disk that will fail with small swap size
[02:23] <K-Ryan> i think i read somewhere it should be twice your RAM up to 500MB or something
[02:24] <stdin> cj_: like I said, depends on how much ram tho
[02:24] <scast> So... How much? 1.5xRAM?
[02:24] <K-Ryan> but I took the safe route and doubled my 512MB for the full gig of swap
[02:24] <don> 128 +256 memory
[02:24] <livingtm> anyone here familiar with  kbluetooth?
[02:24] <scast> don: yes, I think so.
[02:24] <K-Ryan> !swap
[02:24] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:25] <livingtm> I'd like to pair the laptop with a headset for voip.. no idea how to go about that in KDE
[02:25] <don> ya i ran into same thought otherday on one
[02:25] <K-Ryan> Let's see...
[02:25] <Murchadh> !upgrade
[02:25] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:25] <scast> 2xRam then?
[02:25] <K-Ryan> "If you have n MB of ram, you need between n and 2*n Mb of swap. If you have a disk big enough, just put the 2*n Mb swap."
[02:25] <don> i just let kubuntu set my partitions it works
[02:26] <red22> i have kubuntu feisty. after installing ubuntu-desktop, "startx" brings up a gnome session... i want to bring up the session selector screen or at least have it go to kde instead.  how pls?
[02:26] <lontra> what provides liblazy?
[02:27] <scast> Meh, 784mb swap it is then.
[02:27] <K-Ryan> How did you manage to get that amount of RAM?
[02:27] <scast> Woops, 768.
[02:28] <K-Ryan> I'm really curious because that's an odd amount.
[02:28] <TheDebugger> red22: Make a .xinitrc in your home with "exec startkde" in it
[02:28] <scast> Was thinking on 768 and 384 at the same time.
[02:29] <K-Ryan> Yeah, not a big deal
[02:29] <K-Ryan> What combination of RAM do you have to give you 384?
[02:29] <red22> TheDebugger: ok thanks i will try that but one question... there is no such file right now.. how does it know to start gnome when it gets "startx" now?
[02:29] <K-Ryan> It's bothering me that I don't know.
[02:30] <scast> I think it is 128 + 256... or 64 + 64 + 256
[02:30] <scast> Not sure.
[02:30] <scast> or 3 128 sticks.
[02:30] <kristjan_> then again if you don't plan to use suspend to disk ever, then GBs of swap is waste of space in my opninion (you would be safe with 300)
[02:30] <TheDebugger> red22: It must be the default, i don't remember where is that file though :/
[02:30] <TheDebugger> red22: You don't use gdm/kdm?
[02:31] <K-Ryan> yeah, good call
[02:31] <K-Ryan> 128+256
[02:31] <K-Ryan> no it didnt take me that long to do it...
[02:31] <K-Ryan> I pulled out the speedcrunch and let it do it for me
[02:31] <K-Ryan> (calc app)
[02:31] <mahdi> red22: uninstall gdm then dpkg-reconfigure kdm and it should be fixed, then you can just select sessions at will
[02:32] <red22> TheDebugger: i use kdm when i start the machine up but then to switch sessions i get kicked out to console bc beryl has messed up my logging out.  so i need to exec some command to go graphical again.  so is this the best way to get kdm going again?
[02:32] <scast> I think I am going ext3, XFS seems faster but I have never tried it, however I never had problems with ext3 and I am not such a performance freak.
[02:32] <Skyblast> I have an HDTV I want to connect through DVI, but there are two problems. 1) It runs at a very different resolution than my monitor. 1024x768 for the monitor versus 1280x720 for the TV. and 2) It's not connected to the PC all the time, just as I need it. Is it still possible to set up a dual head with this configuration? I have an ATi Radeon 9800SE and am using the open source ati driver.
[02:33] <K-Ryan> You can change the resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x720 if I'm not mistaken
[02:33] <K-Ryan> For when it's connected to the TV
[02:33] <marcelo> some Brazilian?
[02:34] <K-Ryan> Granted I haven't worked with computer-to-TV so it's all guesswork
[02:34] <kristjan_> !portuguese
[02:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:34] <marcelo> thanks
[02:35] <Skyblast> K-Ryan: It's not differant than a typical monitor really. That's all HDTV's are. :) But right now, if I just hook the TV up, it gets no signal from the DVI
[02:35] <red22> TheDebugger: don't i need gdm to load gnome sessions?  is gdm just the session picker app? so can i just uninstall gdm, and use kdm to pick either kde or gnome as well ?
[02:36] <K-Ryan> Skyblast: does something have to be setup that you might have overlooked?
[02:36] <Skyblast> Such as?
[02:37] <K-Ryan> I don't know, like I said before, guesswork
[02:37] <K-Ryan> !dvi
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <K-Ryan> hmm
[02:37] <scast> Aight, /dev/sda1 -- ntfs --- mountpoint: /media/windows; /dev/sda2 -- ext2 -- mountpoint: boot; /dev/sda3 -- swap; /dev/sda5 -- ext3 -- mountpoint: /; /dev/sda6 -- ext3 -- mountpoint: /home
[02:38] <scast> My /boot is 32mb, is that big enough?
[02:38] <red22> does gnome need gdm to run pls?
[02:39] <cj_> red22: no, you can you .xinitrc if you please
[02:39] <Jucato> red22: gdm isn't absolutely necessary to run GNOME. you can start a GNOME session from kdm too
[02:39] <red22> cj_: ok i have kde installed as well so i can just select it from kdm too right?
[02:40] <red22> ah ok ty guys
[02:40] <wolferine> how do you install tovid?
[02:43] <red22> ubuntu needs to update the boot loader and rest of the boot graphics.  other distros look much better during booting.
[02:43] <lontra> !medibuntu
[02:43] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[02:43] <cj_> red22: like which distros?
[02:44] <red22> cj_: for example i used to have fedora year/s? ago and it already had a nicer boot loader with the fedora logo and a nice looking screen.
[02:45] <cj_> red22: well fair enough, use fedora if you don't mind being an unpaid beta-hamster
[02:47] <red22> cj_: i don't use fedora i use *buntus.  but i manually have to change the bootloader to make it look nice and it's not a fun thing to tell a newb to do that.  so could just be updated out of the box for a next version.
[02:48] <red22> just find it weird it has been overlooked for so long.  mandrake also has a nice more graphical looking boot selection screen.  not a big deal aparently to change.
[02:48] <MindUser39294> Free phone calls all around the world - http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[02:48] <red22> just sayin that's all
[02:49] <cj_> red22: yeah, perhaps they devs should waste time polishing a 15 second bootsplash instead of say tweaking drivr support, or polishing something you see for longer than 15 secs
[02:50] <MindUser39294> Free phone calls all around the world - http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[02:50] <cj_> looks a lot better under feisty than dapper already
[02:51] <red22> ok fella, whoa keep your pants on.  not all of us have to like looking at pretty things.
[02:51] <charlie_> any got team speak working on kubuntu?
[02:51] <cpk1> I used to have a teamspeak server running off kubuntu a long time ago
[02:51] <cedross> what is team speak?
[02:52] <charlie_> software that allows you to talk to other players in multiplayer on line games
[02:52] <don> how old is kubuntu?
[02:52] <Jucato> a voip program usually used for online gaming communication
[02:52] <charlie_> yeah, thats team speak
[02:53] <Jucato> the other alternative to teamspeak is ventrillo afaik
[02:53] <red22> cedross: yeah, for games who's developers didn't have the bright idea to include it in-game especially.
[02:54] <cpk1> last I saw vent didnt have a linux client though
[02:57] <Jucato> don: 2 years old
[02:57] <don> oh
[02:57] <Jucato> lol why didn't we celebrate :(
[02:57] <Jucato> http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/hoary-release.php
[02:57] <K-Ryan> Anyone ever play that xjewel thing?
[02:57] <don> tis is the best linux system i have found
[02:57] <K-Ryan> I love it, just like columns =)
[02:57] <K-Ryan> don what others have you tried?
[02:58] <lontra> how come there isn't an icon for kcontrol in kmenu?
[02:58] <K-Ryan> I've only tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[02:58] <tyger> my sound card doesn't work can anybody help
[02:59] <Jucato> cpk1: http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
[02:59] <don> xandros,solaris,mefis,knoppix many versions of some
[02:59] <Jucato> lontra: Kubuntu uses System Settings as a substitute
[02:59] <Jucato> lontra: but you can still run or add kcontrol to the menu if you want. it's installed by default
[02:59] <tyger> I'm using intel
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Are you on a laptop?
[03:00] <don> i like kubuntu 6.06 then i went for fawn
[03:00] <K-Ryan> My friend has the same problem
[03:00] <don> no
[03:00] <tyger> yes
[03:00] <lontra> Jucato: but there isn't an icon anywhere for it ... i need to add it via the menu editor?  that seems silly
[03:00] <scast> 10gb is more than enough for / right?
[03:00] <don> amd on a EliteGroupe
[03:00] <cpk1> Jucato: yup, client for linux is "in development"
[03:00] <K-Ryan> Yeah, Kubuntu didn't seem to recognize his sound card.
[03:01] <tyger> is there any work arounds
[03:01] <don> can you make icons smaller on fawn?
[03:01] <K-Ryan> I'm not sure, but if you find out let me know.
[03:01] <tyger> how about wireless
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Because we didn't find a way, but we were still really new to Linux when we were doing that.
[03:01] <tyger> its not accepting the passwords
[03:01] <K-Ryan> lol, he has the same problem.
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Well, the wireless just doesn't work
[03:02] <K-Ryan> On his anyway
[03:02] <K-Ryan> It probably needs tweaking, let's try this.
[03:02] <tyger> mine only works with a wireless that has no password
[03:02] <K-Ryan> !wireless
[03:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:02] <tyger> ok
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Might want to try your luck there
[03:02] <tyger> thanks
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Anytime
[03:02] <don> there are many wireless wizards in add and remove
[03:03] <tyger> oh ok
[03:03] <tyger> which is the best one
[03:04] <K-Ryan> It probably depends on what you're using.
[03:04] <K-Ryan> So trial and error.
[03:04] <tyger> gateway laptop
[03:04] <K-Ryan> No way, so is my friend's.
[03:04] <don> knetwork manager ?
[03:04] <tyger> ok
[03:04] <K-Ryan> You guys must have the same one.
[03:04] <tyger> 2.8 ghz
[03:04] <K-Ryan> tyger your name wouldn't happen to be Chris right?
[03:04] <tyger> no
[03:04] <tyger>  mark
[03:05] <DarthFrog> Howdy
[03:05] <K-Ryan> That's his dad's name, heheh.
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Hiya DarthFrog
[03:05] <tyger> wow
[03:05] <tyger> I like linux I can run windows software on it
[03:05] <tyger> just problem with drivers
[03:05] <K-Ryan> The sound drivers
[03:06] <don> anyone try to configure one of the tv programs?
[03:06] <tyger> democracy is good
[03:06] <tyger> tv program
[03:06] <DarthFrog> I have a  bizarre problem with a pretty much fresh install of Feisty.  In a nutshell, pressing almost any key causes X to resize the window.
[03:06] <K-Ryan> None of your keys are stuck down, correct/
[03:06] <K-Ryan> *?
[03:06] <tyger> is redhat anybetter
[03:07] <don> red hat aint free
[03:07] <tyger> oh
[03:07] <don> it has its problems too
[03:07] <K-Ryan> careful by what you mean
[03:07] <K-Ryan> Free in the Linux sense means open source
[03:07] <don> sorry
[03:07] <K-Ryan> It's okay, I'm sparing you the lecture
[03:08] <tyger> how do you write your own drivers
[03:08] <K-Ryan> People constantly reminded me that "free" didn't refer to money
[03:08] <don>   i checked out linux they will be like microsoft soon
[03:08] <DarthFrog> Which is why free is a terrible term for software.
[03:08] <don> red hat
[03:08] <K-Ryan> don you can't really check out linux
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Linux is just a big category
[03:08] <K-Ryan> There are so many different distributions
[03:09] <don> I ment Red Hat
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Oh, gotcha
[03:09] <don> what does she look like
[03:09] <DarthFrog> One normally doesn't think of inanimate or intangible things as having freedom.  So when we say such things are free, one thinks of cost.
[03:09] <Jucato> !offtopic
[03:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:09] <DarthFrog> This is a free chair.
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Jucato, is it ok until someone asks for help?
[03:09] <tyger> how do you work the sound server
[03:09] <K-Ryan> We're just making chit chat
[03:09] <don> linux has always fasinated me now I got a good one
[03:10] <luca> stdin now I have a very clear picture I fear
[03:10] <lontra> K-Ryan: it's probably best in -offtopic though ... cause some folks may be afraid to ask questions
[03:10] <Jucato> K-Ryan: there's the chance that someone will be hesitant to ask for help because they see an ongoing conversation
[03:10] <don> I ask if you knew how to configure tv
[03:10] <K-Ryan> Good point
[03:10] <Jucato> !tv
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <don> they will ask
[03:10] <Jucato> bah wrong factoid :)
[03:10] <DarthFrog> OK, I'm asking for help with my X problem. :-)
[03:11] <don> good luck
[03:11] <luca> if you had discovered something probably VERY important about the nvidia driver and glx, where would you post it?
[03:11] <yotux> is bogo a goo spam filter?
[03:11] <Jucato> luca: um... what kind of important thing? a guide?  a problem/bug?
[03:11] <yotux> luca:  I would start with the forum and maybe do a wiki
[03:12] <luca> jucato, yotux I have discovered that nvidia drivers prevent the machine from going into suspend to ram because of xgl
[03:12] <lontra> K-Ryan: nothing wrong with talking about offtopic topics in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[03:12] <luca> if you disable it (and thus prevent yourself from using beryl or compiz) suspend to ram works perfectly
[03:12] <K-Ryan> I know, but I like to help people. And I'm too lazy to keep switching from channel to channel.
[03:13] <Jucato> luca: if you disable xgl? hm... first maybe you could check with #ubuntu-effects and the bug tracker if this is a known problem
[03:13] <luca> jucato ok thanks
[03:13] <Jucato> I think this kind of info is better in the bug tracker
[03:13] <Jucato> !bugs
[03:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:14] <luca> Jucato thanks I need to tell someone, my last two hours of experimenting should not go to waste :-D
[03:16] <don> at least my sites stpped telling me to udate my browser
[03:19] <luca> uhm ok in any case now at least I know how to enable suspend OR glx on this laptop ;) not too hard once you have got the trick :D
[03:27] <madmike> my mother board is dying ;-(
[03:28] <madmike> the capacitors are bulging and everythings goin hell
[03:28] <vontux> hello, I believe that I have had a log file fill my hd ;however, I am unable to track down which file(s) are the culprits, any suggestions?
[03:29] <don> was you overclocking mike?
[03:30] <madmike> nope
[03:31] <K-Ryan> How old is it?
[03:31] <madmike> it's a known problem with the motherboard
[03:31] <K-Ryan> anyway to get a refund/replacement?
[03:32] <madmike> nope
[03:32] <K-Ryan> Hmm, that's too bad.
[03:32] <madmike> it's ok I'm just gunna strip it and put the good stuff on another board
[03:32] <don> I now how you feel I lost my ARBIT
[03:32] <K-Ryan> ah
[03:33] <vontux> hello, does anyone have experience with log files filling their hd, from a crash of "brutalchess" is what I think is the cause....
[03:34] <don> What board do you have mike?
[03:34] <madmike> it's in a dell
[03:35] <jtt> vontux,  use this command from root  to find files largefind . -type  f -mtime -1 -size +1000000c -exec ls -ltr  {} \;r than  1meg accessed in the last 24 hours
[03:35] <don> I have one with optiplex it is a good one
[03:35] <jtt> vontux, find . -type  f -mtime -1 -size +1000000c -exec ls -ltr  {} \;
[03:35] <Jucato> (or vontux could also use K Menu -> Find Files/Folders)
[03:35] <jtt> vontux, from  /   finds files larger than 1meg accessed in last 24 hours
[03:36] <jtt> Jucato, or that
[03:36] <vontux> thx
[03:36] <madmike> it's got a 865g chip set
[03:37] <madmike> it's a small form optiplex and it's got a problem with heat
[03:37] <madmike> and i got the computer for free and it's already got the problem when i got i guess
[03:38] <kkerwin> Hi, I seem to be having a strange pixelation problem with X. The picture describes the problem better, as well as my xorg.conf and my Xorg.0.log: http://xrl.us/xfunkiness http://xrl.us/xfunkyXorgConf http://xrl.us/xorgLog
[03:38] <asimov> ANyone here good with nvidia drivers?
[03:40] <wsjunior> how do i start compiz inside kubuntu?
[03:41] <wsjunior> i did compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher menu water &
[03:41] <wsjunior> is it right?
[03:41] <wsjunior> i can see some effects but im not able to rotate de cube..
[03:41] <gholm> I can't get my SATA drive to recognize in Feisty yet, Edgy works fine.  Edgy eft has a libata v1.2 and feisty fawn has libata v2.2.   Is there anyway to downgrade libata to 1.2 in Fesity?
[03:42] <tin> put the edgy repositories in the sources list
[03:42] <Jucato> !compiz | wsjunior
[03:42] <ubotu> wsjunior: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:42] <tin> then you can get the version from edgy, don't know how smoothly it'll work though
[03:42] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got a dlink dwl-g122 rev b1 and feisty detects it out of the box.  it even detects the APs.  any idea why i need to add rausb1 to /etc/network/interfaces and do a ifconfig up/down before i can use it?
[03:43] <fulat2k> forgot to mention that i'm using knetworkmanager as well
[03:45] <vontux> is is possible for the partition table to be written to incorrectly so that the os believes that the HD is full when it actually is not?
[03:48] <K-Ryan> !xjewel
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xjewel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <K-Ryan> hmm, ubotu usually knows the packages
[03:54] <trpr> hrm.  i get "Failed to connect to SDP Server" when enabling my bluetooth adapter. :\
[03:56] <scast> Well finally did it
[03:56] <scast> xD
[03:56] <scast> !nvidia
[03:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:58] <hartthomson> anyone have experience with scim/skim?
[03:58] <K-Ryan> Gratz scast
[03:58] <scast> I wonder how I am supossed to install it on Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu.
[03:58] <hartthomson> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169  << when i try to start skim
[04:02] <K-Ryan> Alright guys, g'night.
[04:03] <lontra> scast: same way
[04:04] <scast> It's pointing me to System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager
[04:04] <scast> I can't see that on my KDE Menu so I guess it's for Gnome's menu.
[04:04] <lontra> scast: ah ...
[04:05] <lontra> restricted-manager - manage non-free hardware drivers
[04:05] <lontra> scast: you can install restricted-manager via apt
[04:05] <lontra> scast: then run it by typing restricted-manager in konsole
[04:16] <BloodyTux> hey
[04:18] <don> hey
[04:18] <BloodyTux> i'm doing a project on linux, does anyone have any input on what's good and what's bad
[04:19] <BloodyTux> ?
[04:20] <don> most of the browsers need to update
[04:22] <don> What good is fawn has updated browsers
[04:22] <BloodyTux> yea
[04:22] <dwidmann> BloodyTux: good: stability, flexibility, freedom, power  -- bad: lack of commercial/vendor support
[04:22] <don> ya i can play radio now and they dont ask me to update
[04:23] <BloodyTux> :) thanks
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> BloodyTux: a lot of hardware is still unsupported and a lot of the drivers that do exist are reverse engineered
[04:23] <don> Fawn is linux for real
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> BloodyTux: nix needs more support from hw manufacturers
[04:24] <BloodyTux> definatly
[04:24] <chocobo> can someone tell me y my ipod isn't showing up on the desktop?
[04:25] <don> Ya but I think it is really going to make it
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> case in point :)
[04:25] <mahdi> chocobo: try refreshing your desktop
[04:25] <chocobo> how?
[04:25] <mahdi> right click > refresh desktop
[04:25] <don> I have tried may linux os this one does what I want
[04:25] <chocobo> i did but it doesn't work
[04:25] <chocobo> still
[04:25] <mahdi> you sure its mounted?
[04:25] <chocobo> no
[04:26] <chocobo> how would i figure it out?
[04:26] <chocobo> go into media?
[04:26] <mahdi> try that
[04:26] <chocobo> the only unusual thing i see is sdf1
[04:26] <chocobo> isn't that a normal media folder though and not my ipod
[04:26] <chocobo> should it be a pic of an ipod/
[04:26] <BloodyTux> thanks for the comments, i have to go, ciao
[04:26] <don> they need to aproach Graphics and serious gaming and it will be all you could ask for
[04:26] <mahdi> it should be
[04:27] <chocobo> sdf1 should be my ipod?
[04:27] <scast> Nvidia: Checked...
[04:27] <mahdi> no, your ipod should appear as an icon of an ipod
[04:27] <chocobo> kk
[04:27] <chocobo> hm
[04:27] <mahdi> try typing the following into the Konsole "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:27] <mahdi> without the quotation marks
[04:28] <chocobo> kk this is what it gives me
[04:28] <chocobo> it says
[04:28] <chocobo> Disk /dev/sde: 300.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[04:29] <chocobo> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36481 cylinders
[04:29] <chocobo> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[04:29] <chocobo>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:29] <chocobo> /dev/sde1   *           1       36012   289266358+  83  Linux
[04:29] <chocobo> /dev/sde2           36013       36481     3767242+   5  Extended
[04:29] <chocobo> /dev/sde5           36013       36481     3767211   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:29] <chocobo> Disk /dev/sdf: 30.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[04:29] <chocobo> 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 28615 cylinders
[04:29] <chocobo> Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes
[04:29] <chocobo> Disk /dev/sdf doesn't contain a valid partition table
[04:29] <chocobo> sdf looks liek it shoudl be my ipod
[04:29] <chocobo> right?
[04:29] <chocobo> its 30g
[04:29] <lontra> !tell chocobo about paste
[04:29] <mahdi> it looks like it is, but mine registers as /dev/sda#
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> !paste | chocobo
[04:30] <ubotu> chocobo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:30] <chocobo> eh as long as it worksr gith?
[04:30] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know offhand if Wine can access hardware like a bluetooth adapter?
[04:30] <ejupin> how do i mount my mp3 player in amarok.. a window opens up for the mounting command..?
[04:31] <lettuce> is there an #ubuntu channel?
[04:31] <jtt> lettuce, yes
[04:31] <chocobo> hey i tried movin the iso over into the folder and it said access denied :()
[04:32] <chocobo> what do i do
[04:32] <lontra> is there any way that i can tell konqueror to kill just one tab?
[04:32] <mahdi> chocobo: what iso?
[04:32] <mahdi> lontra: there is a close tab button all the way to the right of the tabs
[04:32] <jtt> lontra, icon at far right just about current window
[04:32] <lettuce> what are the beryl channels again?
[04:33] <lontra> mahdi: no the songbird website froze it up and it's all messed up
[04:33] <chocobo> an iso  for mac os <IP_ADDRESS> for generic hardware
[04:33] <lontra> mahdi: i meant with a kill command or something
[04:33] <chocobo> i try putting it in the folder but it says access denied
[04:33] <mahdi> lontra: can't kill one tab with kill, just the entire instance of konqueror
[04:33] <jtt> lontra, cant answer that one
[04:33] <lontra> mahdi: oh well
[04:34] <mahdi> chocobo: type 'mount' into the konsole and look for the sdf
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> lettuce: #ubuntu-effects
[04:35] <mahdi> chocobo: you may have to install gtkpod and reinstall the directory tree to get it to be able to read, but that would remove whatever data you have on it
[04:36] <chocobo> man i just wanna be able to simply put it on another computer
[04:36] <chocobo> the iso
[04:37] <chocobo> think if i  upload it to my site
[04:37] <chocobo> it'll download fast?
[04:37] <chocobo> 5 gigs
[04:37] <mahdi> iPods are not formatted to be able to carry files in that manner
[04:37] <mahdi> i suggest uploading it then redownloading it
[04:37] <chocobo> how long would that take
[04:38] <chocobo> or i could connect to a server
[04:38] <chocobo> that i make on the mac
[04:38] <chocobo> right?
[04:38] <mahdi> it is entirely possible
[04:38] <mahdi> is this an entirely separate computer or just a different partition?
[04:40] <chemicalvamp> so how do i 'multiplay' a mud game? i think ive done it before with a proxy server
 i got my kde with exec startkde
[04:51] <slicknick> with an an established vpn connection to a samba share, i am unable to open .doc or .xls files with OpenOffice without first saving locally.  any suggestions where to start looking at this issue ?
[04:53] <nirmal> actually i was trying to install ubuntu desktop upon kubuntu and it took gdm and i okayed it
[04:54] <scast> Thanks god I got rid of the purple! =D
[04:54] <nirmal> how can i choose the session at welcome screen itself
[04:55] <lettuce> i have beryl installed and it works, but I don't have xgl installed. Is that bad?
[04:55] <Jucato> nirmal: from GDM (login screen), there should be a Session menu (I think it's at the bottom), where you can choose which Session type to login to. choose KDE
[04:56] <Yorokobi> lettuce, feisty's Xorg comes with AIGLX built in ... so you're fine
[04:56] <lettuce> seriously!?
[04:56] <Yorokobi> it wouldn't work otherwise
[04:56] <lettuce> that freakin' sweet
[04:56] <lettuce> *that's
[04:56] <intelikey> i just got a devide by zero error on /etc/init.d/rc  line 39 (i think)   >>>    progress=$(($step * $progress_size / $num_steps + $first_step))
[04:56] <intelikey> i have not edited that file.
[04:56] <lettuce> i love fiesty
[04:57] <nirmal> the username text field is coming 2/3 off the screen i could not see it
[04:58] <nirmal> i am to live with kde also as i am doing some local language work
[04:58] <GWillakers> has anyone gotten truecrypt to work on 7.04?
[04:58] <nirmal> lemme  F10 pressed at welcome screen
[05:01] <nflava> is there a default password for root that you need to change after you install?
[05:01] <intelikey> nflava no
[05:01] <nflava> hm
[05:01] <intelikey> !root nflava
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root nflava - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <intelikey> !root | nflava
[05:01] <ubotu> nflava: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <Jucato> nflava: short answer, no. read that page for more info ^^^^
[05:01] <nflava> k
[05:02] <nirmal> the user pass which you supply when you install is the admin pass
[05:02] <nflava> yeah thats what i thought
[05:02] <nflava> and i typed su in terminal
[05:02] <nflava> and it says auth. failed
[05:02] <intelikey> !su
[05:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:02] <nflava> so i was wondering
[05:02] <nflava> im about to read the page
[05:02] <Jucato> the root user is disabled in Ubuntu.
[05:03] <GWillakers> sudo su
[05:03] <intelikey> the root password is "locked"
[05:03] <nirmal> sudo su
[05:03] <nirmal> and supply your pass
[05:03] <intelikey> the account is not "disabled"
[05:03] <Yorokobi> nflava, you can give root a password by using 'sudo -s' (among other options) to become root then use passwd to change the password.
[05:03] <k31ss> hello
[05:03] <k31ss> im using ubuntu live cd
[05:03] <intelikey> nirmal sudo -i
[05:03] <k31ss> how can i brownzer my hd files
[05:03] <nirmal> oki
[05:04] <k31ss> kubuntu*
[05:04] <dsmith_> question: When I click on an app in kubuntu some will show a bouncy image of the icon, whiel others show just a gear. How can I create the icon that matches the one on the desktop?
[05:04] <lettuce> can someone give me a link to the beryl channel(s)
[05:04] <dsmith_> #beryl
[05:04] <nflava> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:04] <lettuce> danke
[05:04] <intelikey> nirmal if you must dubble with su  try sudo su -     << the dash makes it full login env for root.
[05:04] <nflava> what does that mean after i do a ./configure
[05:05] <Jucato> nflava: you have to instsall "build-essential"
[05:05] <nflava> trying to install xchat
[05:05] <Jucato> !compile | nflava
[05:05] <ubotu> nflava: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:05] <nflava> ok thanks again :)
[05:05] <Jucato> lettuce: #ubuntu-effects too
[05:06] <Jucato> dsmith_: the gear icon is the generic icon for programs that don't have any icon. usually scripts or some command line program
[05:06] <flaccid> trying to get qemu networking going on feisty. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179472 anyone have any suggestions or a working qemu w/ networking. im trying to use tap
[05:06] <dsmith_> jucato: how do I change it? I figured it was default
[05:06] <k31ss> how can i brownzer my hd files ???
[05:07] <jtt> k31ss, konqueror
[05:07] <Yorokobi> k31ss, use Konqueror and click on the Media link
[05:07] <Jucato> dsmith_: depends. where are you launching it? if it's from the K Menu, you can right-click on the item and select Edit item.
[05:07] <dsmith_> some are on the panel
[05:08] <intelikey> right click
[05:09] <dsmith_> ok I see kde menu editor
[05:09] <dsmith_> I click on the icon and it takes me to a master icon database
[05:10] <nflava> !build-essential
[05:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:10] <nflava> hmmm do i have fiesty
[05:10] <Jucato> dsmith_: you can check by typing "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[05:11] <k31ss> Yorokobi: i clicked and appers to be nothing on that folder =
[05:11] <dsmith_> no modules available
[05:11] <Yorokobi> k31ss, it probably didn't auto-mount your existing partitions then ...
[05:12] <k31ss> Yorokobi:  how can i mount then ?
[05:15] <intelikey> "back in the day"   when i started using linux we had to learn how to mount every thing manually.     mount /dev/<device_node> /<dir/to/mount/on>
[05:16] <intelikey> it still works wonderfully
[05:16] <dsmith_> !kdesu
[05:16] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:16] <vontux> hello, how do I check for bad disk sectors?
[05:16] <k31ss> intelikey: where i type that command ??
[05:16] <vitor> hi
[05:16] <jtt> intelikey, surely it wasn;t that far back :_)
[05:16] <Daisuke_Ido> vontux: keep using the drive and pray daily?
[05:16] <Yorokobi> "you can muck up your permissions/config files" <-- How, exactly?
[05:16] <intelikey> k31ss terminal of your choice
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what i did anyway.  didn't work
[05:17] <vitor> does anyone know how I set up the built in micorphone on Dell Latitute D840
[05:17] <vitor> ?
[05:17] <scast> !mp3
[05:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:17] <vontux> Daisuke_Ido: gee thanks :P
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> vontux: fsck
[05:17] <nflava> !glib
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <vontux> Daisuke_Ido: ah
[05:17] <vontux> thx
[05:17] <intelikey> jtt yeah it's been a few years...
[05:17] <Daisuke_Ido> FileSystem ChecK (pretty sure that's the acronym)
[05:18] <vontux> btw, anyone in here who uses "brutalchess" be careful it may crash and and fill your hd with log files!
[05:18] <lettuce> beryl gets all laggy whenever I minimize something, is there anything I can do about that?
[05:18] <Yorokobi> vontux, that's why you create a separate partition for /var :)
[05:18] <vontux> Yorokobi: hehe, live and learn I guess :)
[05:18] <k31ss> intelikey: i cant make that work
[05:18] <intelikey> vontux and pay attention to the disk activity......
[05:18] <Yorokobi> yup
[05:18] <vincent> hello
[05:19] <k31ss> intelikey: what i need to type ?
[05:19] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe i should take a look in /var, see what i can get rid of
[05:19] <intelikey> k31ss what are you trying to mount and where ?
[05:19] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido   ! lib
[05:20] <k31ss> intelikey: im trying to mount my 2 IDE HardDrives and my 1 Sata HardDrive
[05:21] <jtt> !mount >jtt
[05:21] <Yorokobi> Daisuke_Ido, if logrotate is (installed and) working correctly, /var/log should stay manageable ...
[05:21] <intelikey> k31ss ok   first find the device nodes you want to mount.    sudo fdisk -l
[05:21] <lettuce> beryl gets all laggy whenever I minimize something, is there anything I can do about that?
[05:21] <intelikey> k31ss then find the dirrectories (or make them) that you wish each mounted on.
[05:22] <Yorokobi> lettuce, you can change the animation to something less intense
[05:23] <Yorokobi> What's the command to find out if a video card supports direct rendering?
[05:23] <intelikey> k31ss NOTE, mounting a filesystem on a dir. (the only place you can mount them) will hide anything already in that dir.  (except unionfs...)    so don't mount anything on /bin      and preferably not on any dir that contains files.
[05:24] <k31ss> i found hda1 ...
[05:24] <k31ss> how can i mount then ?:?
[05:25] <intelikey> sudo mkdir /media/blah ;sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/blah
[05:25] <scott_> hda1 sound like your main drive not the second drive just a guess
[05:25] <jarn2> Forwarding a port on my router doesn't make me vulnerable, correct?
[05:26] <intelikey> also entering the mount command with no args will list mounted fs's.... some of them anyway
[05:26] <Yorokobi> jarn2, depends on the port and what's answering the port
[05:26] <k31ss> i mounted but now
[05:26] <scast> Wooo, I have sound!
[05:26] <k31ss> when i try acess /media
[05:26] <k31ss> from kokeror
[05:26] <k31ss> i get not acess error
[05:26] <jarn2> Yorokobi: Well, it was a port so I could access some files when I'm not at home. There is nothing sensitive in the files, it's just my music.
[05:26] <intelikey> !ntfs | k31ss
[05:26] <ubotu> k31ss: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:27] <jarn2> Yorokobi: What do you mean by what's answering the port?
[05:27] <Yorokobi> jarn2, the program that is listening on the port you're forwarding
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: definitely not lib
[05:27] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido :)
[05:27] <jarn2> Yorokobi: Umm... it's kpf I think.
[05:28] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido that's what i said
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and logrotate seems to be okay
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: i know, i was agreeing
[05:28] <jarn2> Yorokobi: All I did was right-click and enable sharing in Konqueror. Then I need to forward the port but I haven't done it yet.
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn2: take a look at gnump3d
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> and a dynamic dns service
[05:29] <Daisuke_Ido> two thumbs up for mobile music goodness
[05:29] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido every now and again i blank /var/log   "if i'm sure i don't need the back logs..."
[05:29] <k31ss> apper to mounted all
[05:29] <k31ss> but i still cant brownse ;/media dir
[05:30] <jarn2> Yorokobi: Well, do you know if just forwarding one for use by kpf is secure?
[05:30] <intelikey> k31ss umask
[05:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi: true, but if he's just looking to do music, set up gnump3d with a required username/password, operates via a web interface
[05:30] <Yorokobi> jarn2, nope. I haven't looked at kpf (or whatever it Konqueror uses)
[05:30] <jtt> !pm >jtt
[05:30] <k31ss> intelikey: what's that ?
[05:31] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: That makes it needs a password?
[05:31] <intelikey> k31ss assuming it's not a real fs   i.e. M$ ntfs    you'll need to supply a umask to the mount command or it will default to root only access.     you can remount     sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /mount/point
[05:32] <intelikey> inturpret /mount/point  ^
[05:32] <Daisuke_Ido> you can set it to require one, yes
[05:32] <intelikey> k31ss i hope you do know that writing to ntfs "may" cause problems.
[05:33] <intelikey> "can" be dangerous
[05:33] <intelikey> !ntfs | k31ss again.
[05:33] <ubotu> k31ss again.: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:33] <k31ss> intelikey: i only want to play my mp3 =/
[05:33] <intelikey> read only access is fine.
[05:33] <k31ss> ubotu: i used that, it said that all partitions are now mounted
[05:34] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | k31ss
[05:34] <ubotu> k31ss: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:34] <intelikey> !fuse | k31ss
[05:34] <ubotu> k31ss: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[05:34] <intelikey> !bot | k31ss
[05:34] <ubotu> k31ss: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:34] <flaccid> any qemu users here with networking going?
[05:35] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: How do I use it once I've installed it?
[05:35] <k31ss> =/ i used the script https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:35] <k31ss> but i cant't acess the partitions
[05:36] <scast> !sources.lst
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources.lst - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <scast> !repositories
[05:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:36] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: It tells me I need to change the logfile line but it doesn't tell me what file I need to edit it in...
[05:36] <scast> !sources.list
[05:36] <Yorokobi> intelikey, a quote from Larry Wall comes to mind, "Let me repeat for the logically impaired."
[05:37] <scast> I think I just got ignored by a bot! =O
[05:37] <intelikey> Yorokobi yeah something along that line.
[05:38] <intelikey> i think i'm going to tender my resignation, cat random to all hd's, and walk.
[05:38] <Daisuke_Ido> gnump3d.conf
[05:38] <Yorokobi> hehe, intelikey
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn2: /etc/gnump3d/gnump3d.conf to be exact
[05:41] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, I found it. Thanks. :)
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> intellikey: cat complaint.txt > /dev/null
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> :)
[05:41] <intelikey> lol
[05:41] <intelikey> that's what the higher up seem to do.  yep yep yep...
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn2: .password in your mp3 directory
[05:42] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: I got it I think, thanks. :)
[05:42] <intelikey> i could get this guy fired so easily.....   and probably should...    but wont.
[05:43] <Yorokobi> intelikey, sounds like you have a BOFH
[05:43] <scast> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ is this still up to date?
[05:44] <intelikey> and an attitude.
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> well i dunno barbie, let's take a look there, shall we?
[05:44] <intelikey> !sourceomatic
[05:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:44] <Daisuke_Ido> it has feisty, i'd say it's pretty up to date, huh?
[05:44] <dsmith_> ll
[05:44] <dsmith_> lol
[05:44] <scast> You never know ^_^
[05:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i apologize, i need to lay off watching scrubs :\
[05:45] <dsmith_> gee.. I was in a sore mood today as well. Someone in the office wanted to go back to using Outlook after we upgraded to TB.
[05:46] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido i was writing a script but it got out dated before i finished writing it....
[05:46] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: Greatest show ever.
[05:46] <dsmith_> when asked why, they said "I dont like the colors" & "It's not M$ product, so its some 3rd party crap"
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: so they're idiots.  rename the icon and tell them it's a new version
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> that's how i got mom to switch to firefox
[05:47] <dsmith_> LOL, hey I thought of that!
[05:47] <Yorokobi> funny, very funny
[05:47] <dsmith_> I evern got FF to look like IE
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you want to?
[05:48] <dsmith_> and TB to appear like OL
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> well, to ease the switch
[05:48] <dsmith_> idiots, not liking mozilla
[05:48] <jarn2> Daisuke_Ido: After changing the appropriate settings on the conf, when I try to run it I get a spam of Size mismatch on TLEN at /usr/share/perl5/gnump3d/readtags.pm line 40
[05:48] <intelikey> dsmith_ well colour me an idiot then...
[05:49] <dsmith_> dont like mozilla?
[05:49] <intelikey> no
[05:49] <dsmith_> what do you use?
[05:49] <intelikey> links
[05:49] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not not liking mozilla, it's drinking microsoft's poison kool-aid - THEN asking for more!
[05:49] <dsmith_> hah
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn2: not something i've ever seen
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> dillo's pretty nifty too :)
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> stop and restart it?
[05:50] <dsmith_> Q: has anyone upgraded from 6.10 successfully?
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> say...  /etc/init.d/gnump3d stop && /etc/init.d/gnump3d start
[05:50] <intelikey> i can stand dillo
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> dsmith_: yes, and on a laptop, too
[05:50] <dsmith_> hmmmmm
[05:51] <GWillakers> !lamp
[05:51] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:51] <dsmith_> I will wait a few months then do so....
[05:51] <dsmith_> thx
[05:51] <intelikey> dsmith_ by successfully do yo mean with no issues at all ?
[05:51] <Yorokobi> s/MySQL/PostgreSQL/g
[05:51] <dsmith_> intelikey: heh, I mean by not farking my 'puter
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i was actually surprised that the lappy had no issues
[05:52] <intelikey> then everyone that has upgraded, has upgraded successfully....
[05:52] <Daisuke_Ido> heck, it even hibernates properly
[05:52] <dsmith_> coool, I'll still wait awhile though
[05:53] <N0Lif3|lappy> I'm trying to get my new linksys WPC54G working here on my laptop. I'm follwing a guide that says to do it with ndiswrapper. When I try to install the drivers it'll always say "couldn't open lsbcmds.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 174.
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, i've heard some horror stories
[05:53] <Yorokobi> I'm a geek :)
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> linksys?
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> isn't that an rt2500 chipset card?
[05:53] <N0Lif3|lappy> I don't know, but apparently it works
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> and the driver has to be IN the directory you're installing from
[05:54] <N0Lif3|lappy> well it is suppose to, at least
[05:54] <intelikey> imageek ?   havent seen him in a while...
[05:54] <Yorokobi> OpenBSD 4.1 to be exact, not that anyone really cares ... I just like seeing my name in the channel
[05:55] <intelikey> Yorokobi that was a good one.....    hehhe heh
[05:55] <dsmith_> i've ben trying to get hamachi running, i'm lamost there
[05:55] <dsmith_> *almost
[05:55] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: hehehe
[05:55] <Yorokobi> Yeah, I'm tired and should go to bed now.
[05:56] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: I've never played with OpenBSD .... what's new with it?
[05:56] <intelikey> i'm ready to order the boxed set of debian etch
[05:57] <dwidmann> intelikey: I already did ... got a nice price on it at discountlinuxdvd (contrary to most online folk they're actually not bad, like $2/dvd or something)
[05:57] <Yorokobi> dwidmann, enhancements to PF are what I'm most excited about.
[05:57] <tin> dwidmann: http://openbsd.org/41.html#new
[05:57] <dwidmann> In fact, I'm running debian right now :O
[05:57] <Yorokobi> Thanks, tin
[05:58] <tin> i'm running debian too, the Kubuntu Feisty flavor!
[05:59] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido: What happens if I shut the computer off?
[05:59] <intelikey> i've got mandrake 10 and buntu dapper "sort of" install here
[06:00] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido: When the router is set to forward the port and the computer is turned off so nothing is at the port, what happens?
[06:00] <Yorokobi> jarn_, nothing
[06:00] <Yorokobi> the connection will time out
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn_: nothing happens
[06:00] <dwidmann> tin: I meant I'm running Etch ... was running Feisty before. Oh well, both seem to have their ups and downs
[06:00] <_3fg> how come Kopete doesn't do anything at all?
[06:00] <jarn_> Yorokobi: Ah, okay. So when my comp is on they just go straight to the porgram and I'm not vulnerable and when it's off they just time out?
[06:01] <Yorokobi> jarn_, I would not go so far as no say you're 'not vulnerable' but with the computer off, it won't answer the port.*
[06:01] <intelikey> i say 'sort of' cause it was a hoary installation i upgraded streight to dapper skipping breezy, and had removed all perl* and python*   so by some standards it's not.
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> _3fg: could you possibly be a little more specific?  that's like going to a mechanic and saying "it doesn't work"
[06:01] <_3fg> haha
[06:02] <Yorokobi> (* unless port knocking w/WOL is enabled)
[06:02] <tin> dwidmann: name some downs to Feisty...
[06:02] <tin> since i can get every package you can...
[06:02] <tin> and you can get every package i can...
[06:02] <_3fg> I don't seem to be able to connect
[06:02] <dwidmann> tin: ran noticably slower than etch runs
[06:02] <tin> the same kernel?
[06:02] <tin> built the same?
[06:02] <jarn_> Yorokobi: Well, would I be more vulnerable than I was when the port was not forwarded?
[06:03] <_3fg> I put in my account info and it just sits there and doesn't show any of my buddies
[06:03] <Yorokobi> jarn_, correct.
[06:03] <_3fg> it shows the groups though
[06:03] <dwidmann> tin: built for the most part alike, different kernel
[06:03] <tin> things like that aren't the distro's fault
[06:03] <jarn_> Yorokobi: Wait, I would be? How much more vulnerable?
[06:03] <Daisuke_Ido> are they online?
[06:03] <_3fg> well yes
[06:03] <dwidmann> tin: probably not, but speed is speed
[06:03] <tin> i could put the etch repos in my sources and get the same kernel
[06:03] <_3fg> it doesn't even add contacts
[06:04] <_3fg> the groups say they have 0 buddies in them
[06:04] <tin> and i'd still be "running Feisty"
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i ask because it's set by default to only show online contacts
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, that's weird
[06:04] <vontux> what does SEC_TYPE mean when compared to TYPE for an HD device?
[06:04] <Yorokobi> jarn_, it depends on the program answering the port. If it was written right, not vulnerable.
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> but i don't know much about kopete
[06:04] <dwidmann> tin: I'm always somewhere inbetween kubuntu and debian. Start with kde-core and build my way up
[06:05] <jarn_> Yorokobi: Okay, supposedly this program was written "right".
[06:05] <jarn_> Yorokobi: And that's when the computer is on?  I'm a pessimist when it comes to security. (pessimist == paranoid) :)
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn_: it listens on one specific port, so in theory, it will only take traffic directed to that particular port
[06:06] <tin> but i like how many packages on the kubuntu repos have nice integration with the K menu and such
[06:06] <jarn_> Yorokobi: And when the computer is off I'm not vulnerable no matter what because connections to that port would just time out?
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> jarn_, sorry, wrong person :)
[06:07] <tin> saves me time of building the menu and junk
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> hitmanWilly: i think you were directing that toward _3fg
[06:07] <_3fg> yeah, it's the right protocol
[06:07] <_3fg> I added someone then talked to them
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn_: unless they have a magic connection that can bind to fairy sockets in dreamland, if the pc's off you're safe
[06:08] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido: Okay.
[06:08] <_3fg> but it didn't add any of them
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> _3fg, so its not saving your groups then? hmmm
[06:08] <_3fg> I have to add people manually
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> the words are nonsense, but the tone makes up for it :)
[06:08] <dwidmann> tin: Yeah, I do too ... big thing I wanted to play with in Etch was the new crypt setup thing... works well, and performs very smooth, and here I thought it might make things lag or something, nope, not the case.
[06:08] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido and Yorokobi, thanks. I know little/nothing about firewalls and related things.
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> no problem
[06:08] <Yorokobi> jarn_, the most secure PC is one *not* connected to the Internet :)
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> just remember, if the pc's off, it's really unlikely to ever be infected
[06:08] <tin> dwidmann: but you could get that from Feisty, just update your sources
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> except for the aforementioned magic packets
[06:08] <jarn_> Yorokobi: But I have other PCs on the network and they're what I'm really worried about. THEY run Windows. :P
[06:09] <jarn_> The other computers on the network wouldn't be vulnerable either by me forwarding a port, would they?
[06:10] <tin> all Kubuntu is is a shiny shell on debian. the base is a linux kernel,debian base system and debian package tools
[06:10] <dwidmann> tin: Oh? I meant the crypt setup integrated into the installer though ... functions just like how you would do lvm or raid
[06:10] <tin> i could build up a feisty system from etch if i wanted to
[06:10] <tin> oh, installer is different story
[06:10] <tin> but i'm sure you could set that same stuff up after the install
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> jarn_: 8888 is forwarded to the pc running gnump3d, then the others should be just fine
[06:11] <tin> i could also build (down?) an etch system from a Feisty install
[06:11] <dwidmann> I'm willing to bet feisty+1 or feisty+2 will probably get the crypt stuff in the installer, no guarentee, but it's a likely possibility
[06:11] <jarn_> Daisuke_Ido: Again, even when the comp running it is off?
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> yep, it will just time out
[06:12] <tin> what is that stuff?
[06:12] <jarn_> Okay.
[06:12] <dwidmann> sets up encrypted partitions via dmcrypt ...
[06:12] <intelikey> and the gas company pays the land owned $1.55/m ft^3 of gas.   amounts to about 200 per 6 months
[06:12] <intelikey> sorry wrong channel
[06:13] <dwidmann> intelikey: I was going to say, that seemed random
[06:13] <BellaireLinuxN3r> I thought it was a joke or something
[06:14] <intelikey> dwidmann yeah kinda. sorta.   i was just ranting to this guy...   joined here and didn't ^X back to the other....
[06:14] <tin> i don't see encrypted partitions as high priority for ubuntu devs though
[06:14] <vontux> what does SEC_TYPE mean when compared to TYPE for an HD device?
[06:14] <tin> humans tend to forget things, including passphrases ;-)
[06:14] <dwidmann> tin: no, but the work is basically already done, shouldn't take too much work to pull it down from debian
[06:14] <tin> and since ubuntu is linux for human beings
[06:15] <dwidmann> tin: if I were to forget my passphrase, I'd, I'd cry.
[06:15] <dwidmann> gig upon countless gig, can't afford to lose my stuff :(
[06:16] <tin> yeah, i'm just thinking that for ubuntu's target audience (everyone), most of them aren't going to need it, and even the option will make confusion
[06:16] <vontux> dwidmann: log in via live-cd and recover that way?
[06:16] <intelikey> dwidmann better do backups then...
[06:16] <tin> dwidmann: exactly!
[06:17] <dwidmann> vontux: I was thinking about the future: and if I were to have such troubles, a live cd would be of no use,  the hypothetical scenario being that I forget my LUKS passphrase
[06:17] <tin> i would be suprised to see it on the server install in 7.10 though
[06:17] <tin> wouldn't be**
[06:17] <dwidmann> intelikey: I don't exactly have the capacity to do so, but I do have some backed up, and I can get some of it back
[06:18] <intelikey> dwidmann anything on a "single" source is not safe.   hd's die  dvd's get scratched,stolen... if it's worth keeping it's worth keeping twice.
[06:19] <dwidmann> intelikey: yeah, no doubt
[06:19] <dwidmann> Having to re-rip all of my cds would scare me though. That would take forever and a day
[06:20] <intelikey> that ole spear chicking music will blow your computer up anyway.
[06:20] <dwidmann> intelikey: I've got some of it backed up in two or even three places ....
[06:21] <dwidmann> spear chicking? wtf? ?_?
[06:21] <intelikey> chuckin'   sorry.  typo
[06:26] <intelikey> heh,  waithing on an hd to become free...  until umount /dev/hdb ;do sync ;done
[06:32] <UltraBread> hey
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> hello
[06:32] <UltraBread> whats wrong with gnome
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> i could write a book on that one
[06:33] <UltraBread> for n00bs, what is wrong with it
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> for newbies, it actually might be alright...but that's where it ends
[06:34] <UltraBread> well let's say what am i missing out?
[06:34] <UltraBread> beside nautilus, everything is fine to me
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> then stick with it if you like it :) i like kde better for various reasons, but i still use quite a few gnome apps
[06:36] <UltraBread> like firefox? :D
[06:36] <Jucato> UltraBread: there is nothing really "wrong" with GNOME. it all depends on people's preferences. different people, different preferences. it all boils down to choice.
[06:36] <Jucato> (Firefox is *not* a GNOME app)
[06:37] <UltraBread> iti sn't but what libraries it uses
[06:37] <Jucato> it uses GTK+ (on Linux)
[06:38] <UltraBread> that doesn't sound like qt to me
[06:38] <Jucato> neither is it GNOME
[06:38] <UltraBread> gnome uses gtk
[06:38] <UltraBread> thus firefox = gnome
[06:38] <UltraBread> :D
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> just because something doesn't use qt, doesn't make it a gnome app
[06:38] <Jucato> Xfce uses GTK. is it GNOME?
[06:38] <deathguppie> Gnome is built on GTK.. and so is Firefox.. but Firefox actually has a wrapper for GTK called XUL
[06:38] <intelikey> there is nothing really "wrong" with GNOME. <<<<   ah some would differ.   gnome is one to those things that..... i'm off topic again aren't i.
[06:38] <Jucato> UltraBread: GTK = the GIMP ToolKit
[06:39] <UltraBread> yeah.
[06:39] <intelikey> disreguard...
[06:39] <Jucato> intelikey: we've all been offtopic :)
[06:39] <deathguppie> So technically Firefox is actually built on XUL
[06:39] <cje> hi guys, I am a relatively new kubuntu user.  I am trying to delete files on a relatively fresh install of Edgy Kubuntu.  There is no trash icon on my desktop!  heh.  I found the trash dir, but rmdir -Rf ~path/to/trash didn't work, saying the dirs were non-empty.  Is there a graphical tool that could help me?  Thanks in advance.
[06:39] <Jucato> UltraBread: Firefox uses GTK on Linux. that doesn't make it a GNOME app
[06:39] <DaveQB> hi all, I am trying to remaster the Kubuntu Desktop iso. I can't find the usr/share/wallpapaer dir in the squashfs. Where does Kubuntu set the wallpaper from ?
[06:39] <Jucato> not all GTK apps are GNOME apps
[06:40] <UltraBread> none are kde apps
[06:40] <deathguppie> cje: are you using beryl or xgl??
[06:40] <Jucato> cje: shouldn't there be a Trash icon on your panel by default?
[06:40] <cje> deathguppie: I am not using either berly or xgl
[06:40] <xmb> http://losers.yore.ma/~merchelo/tor/
[06:40] <xmb> ^^ free downloads
[06:41] <UltraBread> cje: you can add trash on panel if it isn't there
[06:41] <pclogin> OMG please help  Linux is killing me.  HOW do you install a program? The instructions say to enter into terminal MAKE, then MAKE INSTALL but this simply will not work
[06:41] <Jucato> xmb: please don't spam
[06:41] <cje> UltraBread:  how do I add it please?
[06:41] <sred13> PClogin is now SRED13
[06:41] <UltraBread> shameless advertising
[06:41] <deathguppie> cje:hmm... just a sec
[06:41] <xmb> Jucato: Hmmm, it's technically not spam......
[06:41] <cje> pclogin: what version are you using?
[06:41] <xmb> It's not advertising either.
[06:41] <xmb> It's just free stuff...
[06:41] <sred13> ubuntu 6.10
[06:42] <DaveQB> sred13  what are you trying to install ?
[06:42] <xmb> Ban me anyways.
[06:42] <sred13> I'
[06:42] <sred13> Trying to install NDISwrapper
[06:42] <cje> pclogin:  There is a nice graphical installer
[06:42] <UltraBread> cje: right click on empty spot on the main panel -> add...
[06:42] <deathguppie> cje: it should be on the lower right hand of your panel
[06:42] <Jucato> !ndiswrapper
[06:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:42] <Jucato> sred13: seen that guide? ^^^
[06:42] <sred13> got it untarred but I it seems like the files are for a different version of Ubuntu
[06:43] <cje> deathguppie:  heh, I guess I feel silly
[06:43] <sred13> Which is better?  MadWifi or NDiswrapper
[06:43] <deathguppie> heh.. it's ok.. I actually had too look
[06:43] <cje> deathguppie:  thanks for pointing out the obvious.  My apologies for not seeing it!!
[06:44] <deathguppie> cje:actually I'm just trying this comming from Gentoo for the last few years..
[06:44] <cje> deathguppie:  interesting.
[06:44] <cje> deathguppie:  I am coming over from SuSE
[06:44] <xmb> deathguppie: why gentoo -> kubuntu ?
[06:44] <deathguppie> not sure if I'm going to stay, because the build environment kinda sucks.. and I'm working on a game using Crystal Space
[06:45] <deathguppie> xmb:just wanted to see if it really could be as easy as just clicking a few buttons..
[06:45] <deathguppie> If I just wanted a desktop it would be..
[06:45] <xmb> deathguppie: ah right, well it is....
[06:45] <Jucato> (it is... if that's what you want)
[06:45] <cje> deathguppie:  thanks to deathguppie and everyone else who tried to help me.  I'm going to go home how.  See ya.
[06:45] <deathguppie> cya
[06:46] <xmb> deathguppie: If you want a source-based disro which is better than gentoo, try sourcemage.
[06:46] <xmb> *distro
[06:46] <deathguppie> xmb:sourcemage is missing a lot of packages.. I'm downloading Saybayon right now
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> deathguppie, well, after gentoo, just about anything seems easy :)
[06:46] <Jucato> hitmanWilly: even LFS? :D
[06:47] <deathguppie> hitmanWilly: unless you are trying to compile something..
[06:47] <deathguppie> Gentoo's build system is really stable
[06:47] <Jucato> well, Gentoo was built for compiling :)
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> deathguppie, i came over from slack myself
[06:47] <Jucato> most binary distros have their own stable build systems to produce binary packages.
[06:48] <deathguppie> hitmanWilly: that was my first distro back in 1996 :)
[06:48] <scast> !lamp
[06:48] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:48] <xmb> deathguppie: you might aswell just reinstall gentoo then, sabayon is the same thing
[06:49] <Jucato> (gentoo users would beg to disagree though)
[06:49] <deathguppie> xmb: actually Saybayon has a full binary install disk
[06:49] <xmb> Most gentoo users are idiots.
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> Sabayon is gentoo for dummies...
[06:49] <deathguppie> xmb: thanks
[06:49] <xmb> deathguppie: That makes no sense.
[06:49] <Jucato> !coc
[06:49] <xmb> deathguppie: Don't thank me, I'm one also.
[06:49] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:50] <deathguppie> well.. I'm not here to talk about Gentoo.. or Saybayon though
[06:50] <xmb> Good.
[06:50] <deathguppie> I was actually hoping for help with my tool chain
[06:50] <deathguppie> on kubuntu
[06:50] <deathguppie> there are a lot of missing packages that I need.. one of which is Freetype2
[06:50] <xmb> I'm sick of hearing about 31337 CFLAGS like, --lasers-and-smoke, and --omg-optimized
[06:51] <deathguppie> xmb:even ubuntu uses custom flags when they need them.. and there are a very few occasions when they do make sense..
[06:52] <xmb> deathguppie: :-)
[06:52] <deathguppie> anyone know where to find a package for Freetype2??
[06:52] <Jucato> !info libfreetype6-dev
[06:52] <ubotu> libfreetype6-dev: FreeType 2 font engine, development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-5ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 625 kB, installed size 2980 kB
[06:52] <Jucato> or drop the -dev if you don't need the headers
[06:52] <deathguppie> ubotu: thanks
[06:52] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:52] <Jucato> :P
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> wow, that's new
[06:53] <Jucato> deathguppie: apt-cache search, apt:/ (in Konqueror), and http://packages.ubuntu.com are helpful in searching for packages
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> or synaptic's search works pretty good too
[06:54] <deathguppie> ubotu: actually it may install freetype2 but I can't find it on the system and neither can my config file..
[06:54] <Jucato> or Adept :)
[06:54] <Jucato> deathguppie: you're talking to a bot
[06:55] <deathguppie> Jucato: bots can be sexy.. heh.. :)
[06:55] <Jucato> deathguppie: you mean ./configure is complaining? did you install the -dev package then?
[06:55] <deathguppie> np.. I'll do that
[06:56] <deathguppie> Jucato: usually I don't need the header files though..
[06:56] <deathguppie> I just need the libs installed
[06:56] <Jucato> deathguppie: for compiling, most of the time you do
[06:56] <Jucato> on Kubuntu, at least
[06:56] <Jucato> (there's not distinction between foo and foo-dev in Gentoo, of course)
[06:56] <deathguppie> sometimes.. it depends
[06:56] <xmb> http://losers.yore.ma/~merchelo/tor/
[06:57] <scast> Stupid Internet >_>
[06:57] <scast> !apache
[06:57] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:57] <scast> Aight.
[06:57] <deathguppie> Jucato: that is because everything is compiled..
[06:58] <Jucato> deathguppie: exactly
[06:58] <scast> It's the same process in 6.06 and in 7.04?
[06:58] <Jucato> scast: mostly, except there's no PHP 4 in Feisty I think
[06:59] <deathguppie> apache is easy..
[06:59] <Jucato> deathguppie: anyway, if you run into more ./configure problems about missing headers/libs, try instaling -dev versions of the needed package
[06:59] <deathguppie> LDAP through SSL can be a pain though :) heh
[06:59] <deathguppie> jucato.. I'll give it a try.. thanks.. guess I've been using source for too long
[07:00] <N0Lif3|lappy> My laptop can't seem to detect my Linksys WPC54G wireless card. I have it plugged in, but can't be found with "dmesg." Also, it isn't lighting up either.
[07:00] <_3fg> any way I can make firefox conform to kde's settings?
[07:00] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm, it seems that the "suggested tracks" dynamic playlist no longer works properly in amarok 1.4.5
[07:00] <Jucato> _3fg: like?
[07:00] <_3fg> it still acts like I'm using GNOME
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> uh, yeah
[07:01] <_3fg> like the mac-like toolbar doesn't work with FF
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> use konqueror instead
[07:01] <Jucato> _3fg: it really wont
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> that's about your only option
[07:01] <_3fg> it sucks
[07:01] <_3fg> k, I'll just keep using Opera then
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, but FF isn't tied to any one DE
[07:01] <Jucato> although it's very much tied to one Toolkit
[07:01] <kubuntu_user07> hi all
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> oh yes
[07:01] <_3fg> Konqueror is a failure of a browser
[07:01] <kubuntu_user07> quick question about kubuntu 7.04
[07:02] <N0Lif3|lappy> _3fg: did you get the mac-like toolbar working in Opera?
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> no, actually konqueror's pretty decent
[07:02] <kubuntu_user07> i read somewhere ubuntu 7.04 had compiz installed by default does kubuntu 7.04?
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> same backend as safari
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> not installed by default, no
[07:02] <_3fg> I did not, but since Konqueror sucks I'll just use the best option
[07:02] <Jucato> he left before he got an answer :)
[07:02] <kubuntu_user07> sorry
[07:02] <Jucato> kubuntu_user07: the answer is no
[07:02] <kubuntu_user07> closed wrong thing stupid windows
[07:03] <kubuntu_user07> ok does ubuntu 7.04?
[07:03] <N0Lif3|lappy> Konqueror is fine. what don't you like about it. 3fg
[07:03] <_3fg> well, I wasn't able to get mouse gestures to work, likely because my mouse is a touchpad and it isn't fully supported
[07:03] <_3fg> it's slow
[07:03] <_3fg> nah, the gmail thing doesn't bother me
[07:03] <kubuntu_user07> so copiz is not installed by default on either distro?
[07:03] <Jucato> hm... KDE has support for system wide (not only Konqueror) gestures
[07:03] <N0Lif3|lappy> _3fg: lol, mouse gestures work fine for< me in konqueror
[07:03] <_3fg> I know
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> rendering's nice and speedy, gestures are no problem...
[07:04] <_3fg> I'm pretty sure it's my mouse
[07:04] <_3fg> it randomly stops loading pages
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> then it's not konqueror
[07:04] <N0Lif3|lappy> 3fg, change the settings to use the second clicker
[07:04] <_3fg> no, but the mouse gestures DO work in Opera
[07:04] <_3fg> and I tried all the settings, N0Lif3
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> not the ones that work though :P
[07:05] <rene> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[07:05] <Jucato> !de | rene
[07:05] <ubotu> rene: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:05] <rene> thx :-)
[07:05] <rene> bye
[07:07] <bill_> Ich spreche ein bisschen deutsch.
[07:07] <_3fg> but yeah, since my mousepad isn't supported by the kernel
[07:07] <Jucato> !de | bill_
[07:07] <ubotu> bill_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:07] <_3fg> mouse touchpad thingy
[07:08] <_3fg> mouse gestures only work in Opera
[07:08] <bill_> hey, is there a way for me to play wma's?
[07:08] <_3fg> VLC?
[07:08] <bill_> lol, I know, I was just telling him I speak a bit of german
[07:08] <Jucato> !w32codecs | bill_
[07:08] <ubotu> bill_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[07:09] <Jucato> (or kmplayer)
[07:09] <_3fg> I need to go to the store
[07:09] <_3fg> bye
[07:11] <deathguppie> hey.. ubotu pm'd me.. you thinks it's a girl?? .. heh
[07:11] <Jucato> it is an it :)
[07:12] <deathguppie> ya.. rain on my glory.. see if I care..
[07:12] <underdog5004> deathguppie, that means that someone wants you to know something w/o spamming the main channel
[07:12] <deathguppie> what if your wrong.. what if it happens to be one of those hot Stepford wives??
[07:14] <deathguppie> 	<ubotu>	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:14] <deathguppie> see.. isn't that sweet...
[07:14] <deathguppie> heh
[07:15] <deathguppie> oh wait.. I just got this new PM from ubotu...
 oh.. my... this heat sink is really seaming me up.. can you help me get this cover off???
[07:16] <deathguppie> bow chicka bow wow...
[07:16] <deathguppie> heh
[07:16] <Daisuke_Ido> !eww
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eww - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <underdog5004> rofl....at deathguppie....not with him
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm.  the bot should really know something about eww.
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> especialy in regards to that
[07:17] <epimeth> goooood morning!
[07:19] <purpleposeidon> epimeth: maybe for you :b
[07:19] <epimeth> why? whats wrong, purpleposeidon?
[07:20] <purpleposeidon> epimeth: the sun has a nasty habbit of being on only one side of the earth a time
[07:21] <epimeth> haven't we decided on some sort of earth standard time yet?
[07:21] <Daisuke_Ido> well, yeah, the outside.  life would be very difficult if it shone on the inside.  or... we'd be extra crispy mole-men
[07:22] <epimeth> not really... look at beach bums... they're in the sun all day and they aren't crispy... just super tan... damn, I'm in the wrong business...
[07:22] <epimeth> the weatherman said the weather would be awesome today... :-(
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, but if the sun were INSIDE the earth, it would be a great deal closer to those beach bums, and they would probably have a complexion like a cheap leather handbag
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido, would have? :)
[07:23] <ben23> hi, I am trying to set up ssl with apache 2 in feisty, but apache2-ssl-certificate is missing, and I don't know how to install it
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> hitmanWilly: touche.
[07:24] <ben23> I noticed there is a bug report for that also
[07:24] <epimeth> now we're just talking physical impossibility... if the sun were inside the earth the earth would have imploded under the sun's gravitation feild long ago!  lets stick to there being sun indoors for the time being
[07:24] <epimeth> launchpad or sun-drivers ?
[07:25] <epimeth> I hear it comes prepackaged with java
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> epimeth: it may be impossible, but that doesn't mean it can't happen!
[07:25] <epimeth> mmm... coffee
[07:26] <epimeth> sorry to dissapoint, but I haven't hooked up a mic... you'll have to settle for silence on my end
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke_Ido, happy now? :)
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> quite!
[07:26] <epimeth> ohmygod!  its a ghost! run!!!
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> now i need a smoke before bed
[07:28] <flo> hello
[07:30] <epimeth> ahoy flo
[07:31] <wolferine> whats good to use after tovid, for making the menus and burning to a DVD?
[07:32] <flo> epimeth: hows it goin
[07:32] <flo> i love ubuntu.  usin it on my imac
[07:33] <epimeth> not bad... trying to figure out how to patch my sound card... stupid amazing ultra new laptop
[07:39] <flo> is there any way to installall software thru synaptic without having to select each?
[07:40] <Jucato> flo: you just have to select the package that you want and it automatically selects anything else that it needs
[07:43] <epimeth> jucato.... I have no idea what to do!  I have a c file here from also that is supposed to fix my sound... there is absolutely no menion of how to apply the patch!  or at least not that I noticed...
[07:44] <Mussorgsky> why changing the gamma correction does nothing?
[07:44] <epimeth> Jucato: found it... arg... I *really* don't want to do all this
[07:45] <dxdt> Is there a way to make Konqueror show tiny previews of the movie the same way Ubuntu does with movie clips?
[07:46] <Grape_Juice> Print out photos of the movie and tape them to your screen. :p
[07:46] <epimeth> wtf is Katapult?
[07:46] <Jucato> !katapult | epimeth
[07:46] <ubotu> epimeth: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[07:46] <Jucato> (once you learn how it works, you'll be saying "wtf did I only learn about this now!")
[07:47] <Jucato> epimeth: oh, it's installed by default already...
[07:47] <dxdt> Grape_Juice, not helpful
[07:47] <epimeth> whoa
[07:47] <Grape_Juice> Sorry, I'm weird. :>
[07:47] <Jucato> (and on a fresh Kubuntu install, running by default)
[07:47] <epimeth> soooo much cooler than alt+f2
[07:47] <Jucato> of course :)
[07:47] <Grape_Juice> Stupid keyboard shortcuts. :<
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> They make you reach all the way across the keyboard. :<
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> I"M LAZY!!!   I *hate* mice
[07:48] <Jucato> aren't you glad they're so configurable? :)
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> Alt + SpaceBar
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> ftw
[07:48] <epimeth> but thats exactly it, picking up my hand to go to the mouse is too much work for me :-)
[07:48] <Grape_Juice> ahaha
[07:49] <epimeth> left thumb: lalt, right thumb: space... whats so hard about that?
[07:49] <Jucato> dxdt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 scrolldown to the part for Kubuntu Dapper. Video previews
[07:49] <Jucato> dxdt: Video thumbnails in Konqueror -- install libarts1-xine. You can turn this functionality on and off through Konqueror's menu View->Preview->Video files.
[07:50] <dxdt> hmmm OK, cool.  I figured since the videos could already play, that I wouldn't need some codecs or anything but meh I'll install the package and see what it does, thanks!
[07:52] <epimeth> great... now even if I *had* sound I couldn't hear anything
[08:00] <_3fg> how can I configure my mouse settings?
[08:00] <_3fg> it keeps clicking every time I touch the damn pad
[08:08] <posingaspopular> so, my wireless pci card wont show in xubuntu feisty when i do lspci or try to connect to the net (no response in #xubuntu). what should i do?
[08:09] <_3fg> well feisty didn't work for me at all, wireless card, sound, etc
[08:13] <juliano> heloo
[08:13] <_3fg> how do I text edit a file as root?
[08:13] <_3fg> sudo _____ /file
[08:13] <juliano> the game cube is very slow in my machine, whats?
[08:14] <juliano> the version 7.04 is a good version?
[08:15] <_3fg> feisty fawn?
[08:15] <_3fg> barely worked for me, so I downgraded
[08:15] <juliano> anyone use this version here?
[08:16] <Lynoure> juliano: Yes, many
[08:16] <juliano> is good?
[08:16] <Lynoure> juliano: I have been using it since before beta. I like it, but mind you, I have no experience on upgrading to it.
[08:17] <_3fg> Lynoure: does Kubuntu use xorg.conf the same way ubuntu does?
[08:17] <Lynoure> juliano: For me Basket and (easily fixable) Palm sync made it well worth switching to from Dapper
[08:18] <Lynoure> _3fg: The only real difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is that one has KDE and other has Gnome, so yes.
[08:18] <_3fg> ok
[08:18] <_3fg> then how do I edit something as root?
[08:19] <_3fg> I can't figure out the command to use KDE apps instead of Gnome apps to edit stuff
[08:20] <Jucato> _3fg: right-click on the file in Konqueror -> Actions -> Edit as root. or press Alt+F2 and enter "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (for example)
[08:20] <Lynoure> _3fg: kdesu kate filename
[08:20] <Lynoure> Jucato: :)
[08:20] <_3fg> kdesu, that's it
[08:20] <Jucato> gksudo for GNOME, kdesu for KDE
[08:21] <epimeth> and make sure that when things are installed to the menu automatically to change any "gksu" to "kdesu"
[08:21] <epimeth> ie: NTFS Configuration Tool
[08:22] <_3fg> hm, how do I change my mouse's driver/
[08:24] <jkjk> Is there an easy way to install Gnome on Kubuntu so that i can choose between KDE & Gnome when logging in via KDM ?
[08:25] <Jucato> jkjk: yes. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[08:26] <jkjk> Jucato: Thanks!
[08:27] <dac_> password for wallet invalod, what can I do?
[08:28] <dac_> invalad
[08:30] <dac_> password for wallet invalid, what can I do?
[08:49] <xushi> hi all, i want to install kubuntu on my HD, which is divided into C:\ and D:\. C:\ has windows on it. I want to replace D:\ with kubuntu. But i remember back in the old days that said the OS had to be in the first X bites of the hard drive or something.. will i have a problem?
[08:49] <xushi> boot sector *
[08:54] <Sesshoumaru> anybody here with ubuntu 7.04?  i need help with wine
[08:57] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: More than likely, everyone here runs Fiesty Fawn...
[08:58] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: well.. i need to know why wine isn't working
[08:58] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: WINE"s an emulator.. might help more if I knew what app you were trying to run
[08:58] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: i have reinstalled ubuntu and wine a bunch of times
[08:59] <jbrouhard> Hmm
[08:59] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: are you trying to run a specific windows app ?
[08:59] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: steam
[08:59] <jbrouhard> Steam ?
[09:00] <jbrouhard> Got a linky ?
[09:00] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: steampowered.com
[09:00] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: steam works good with wine
[09:00] <CarinArr> hey.. i have a bit of a problem if anyone could help me. I had the nvidia drivers off nvidia's website installed, and they were working perfectly, but i saw the nvidia-glx-new package and thought i'd give it a shot. I uninstalled the other nvidia drivers and installed the package, but no kernel module seems to have been installed, and when i restarted the computer i couldn't start x (which is fair enough cause it can't find an nvidia kernel module), so
[09:00] <CarinArr> bloody hell.. didn't realise i'd typed that much;)
[09:00] <Sesshoumaru> lol
[09:01] <jbrouhard> Oh
[09:01] <jbrouhard> Steam is like GameSpy huh ?
[09:01] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: (<_<).. no
[09:02] <jbrouhard> Looks like it ;)
[09:02] <jbrouhard> Lemme see if it works here
[09:02] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: you need steam to play games like half-life and counter-strike
[09:02] <jbrouhard> Huh
[09:02] <jbrouhard> <-- in a gaming clan and most of my members play CS:S... They never mentioned Steam
[09:03] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: wine just doesn't install right, and theres no shortcuts liek it never fully installs
[09:03] <jbrouhard> Huh
[09:03] <jbrouhard> download is a .msi
[09:03] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: i tried exe and msi from different sites
[09:04] <jbrouhard> Well, i was able to install it
[09:04] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: it always get errors
[09:05] <jbrouhard> Well
[09:05] <jbrouhard> only errors I'm getting
[09:05] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: its weird cause i had all this stuff before and everything worked
[09:05] <jbrouhard> are missing fonts
[09:05] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: you have ubuntu 7.04?
[09:05] <jbrouhard> Yes
[09:07] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: the fonts error is simple..   WHY ME!?
[09:07] <jbrouhard> Well
[09:07] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: I can't READ anything.  the buttons are colored out (as if the text isn't there, simply)
[09:09] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: you have to put tahoma font in the wine fonts directory
[09:09] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: but my problem is that i can't even start the installer without errors
[09:10] <jbrouhard> What error
[09:10] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: with exe i get error... with msi i get no response at all
[09:11] <jbrouhard> Open WIne File
[09:11] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: the file 'C:\windows\temp\glf7db.tmp' could not be opened
[09:12] <jbrouhard> oOO
[09:12] <jbrouhard> That's weird.. i didn't have that issue
[09:12] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: i opened winefile
[09:13] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: and the .tmp name is different everytime
[09:14] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard:  i think my computer isn't configered right.. also i think my IDE cable is bad
[09:15] <Moo-> CAn someone help me? Where can I change the screen resolution? I can't find it from system settings
[09:15] <Sesshoumaru> xorg.cfg
[09:15] <Jucato> Moo-: System Settings -> Monitor & Display?
[09:16] <Moo-> Jucato: I can't see that anywhere
[09:16] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: i got the msi working through winefile
[09:16] <Moo-> jaaroo: I remember that I have seen that, but now it just isn't there
[09:16] <Jucato> check if you have the package called "kde-guidance" installed
[09:17] <jbrouhard> Sesshoumaru: So did it install ?
[09:18] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: yeah.. but still, somethings not right // just a feeling (<_<)
[09:21] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: wine did not create any shortcuts for steam..
[09:26] <intelikey> i just used the dapper live cd and let it do everything automatic and the system was installed... but unbootable.   it didn't install grub on the first hd
[09:26] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: Fatal Error: Cound not load module 'bin/vgui2.dll'
[09:27] <Sesshoumaru> jbrouhard: it must be my computer like a bad cable or something..
[09:27] <jbrouhard> actually
[09:27] <jbrouhard> doh.. he left before I could respond :(
[09:27] <intelikey> ndiswarper ?
[09:29] <romo> ahoy
[09:32] <intelikey> what package to i remove to get rid of all the gnome stuff?   err actually all the ubuntu-desktop stuff ?      or is there a simple way ?
[09:33] <fdoving> intelikey: if you use aptitude remove, i belive it will tell you some packges were installed as depenencies, and suggest their removal.
[09:35] <fdoving> intelikey: if not, i think most of gnome depend on libgnome2-0, not sure though.
[09:35] <intelikey> k   ty
[09:35] <akrus> hm... KDE4 Alpha to be released today? :)
[09:37] <Moo-> Now I got the right resolution back, but the font size in adept is way too small to read, how do I fix those fonts and how did all these changed suddenly?
[09:38] <fdoving> akrus: no, it'll be tagged the 3rd.
[09:38] <MrWGW-> morning
[09:40] <akrus> oh
[09:40] <akrus> two days to live without KDE4 T_T
[09:40] <akrus> I'm likely going to die
[09:40] <akrus> xD
[09:40] <akrus> someone already upgraded to Gutsy?
[09:44] <Moo-> That problem fixed, now the next one, I finaly got the Distribution Upgrade tool to fork but it jams on preparingstep after fetching 54 of 62 files
[09:46] <renato> Hi, I am on feisty, I have an ati card and two screen and I have set it up as a "big desktop". The setup was working under edgy. The Big Destop setup is working untill I log in, then it switches back to "clone mode" where the second screen clones the first, so ti seems to be some kubuntu related setting that makes it working this way. Anybody has been working this same issue out?
[09:49] <codonil> Any idea where i can find the kubuntu Fiesty DVD md5sum ?
[09:51] <renato> it looks like most of the people are asleep.....
[09:51] <codonil> yeah
[09:51] <codonil> even the website is down
[09:52] <RytmenPinnen> there is a problem with my packet handler
[09:52] <RytmenPinnen> it says its allready in use but I just booted up
[09:53] <fdoving> !adept fix | rytmenpinnen
[09:53] <ubotu> rytmenpinnen: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:53] <fdoving> renato: mergedfb or xinerama?
[09:55] <renato> fdloving: mergedfb
[09:55] <renato> fdloving: xinerama is deadly slow and no 3d
[09:57] <renato> if I check on the settings (my screens are both 1600x1200) I see I can select a 3200x1200 which should do if it was not for the fact that if I try that the setting panel crashes. where does that panel stores it's setting? (no, it is not xorg.conf)
[10:00] <codonil> I can't find the kubuntu Fiesty DVD md5sum anywhere...
[10:01] <codonil> maybe I'll just use the torrent to verify data
[10:02] <alexander> Hiya guys. Anyone know of a good downloading program for music
[10:04] <lips> german or english
[10:04] <alexander> english prefferable
[10:05] <CarinArr> !de
[10:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:05] <_StefanS_> du bist ein berliner
[10:05] <alexander> mein deutsch ist nicht so Gut
[10:05] <_StefanS_> or something..
[10:05] <_StefanS_> :D
[10:05] <Jucato> heh
[10:05] <_StefanS_> hey Jucatohhh
[10:06] <alexander> Anyone have a downloading program in English?
[10:06] <Jucato> hi _StefanS_ssssss :)
[10:06] <lips> my problem is that my extern mouse does not work under ubuntu i'm using a laptop and the touchpad works perfect
[10:07] <alexander> Im using a laptop now, and my mouse works
[10:07] <_StefanS_> lips: is it a bluetooth mouse?
[10:07] <alexander> not cordless :D
[10:08] <lips> no its a normal usbmouse not cordless
[10:08] <alexander> mine aswell
[10:08] <alexander> should work
[10:08] <lips> i dont know i recognised that it doesnt :-P
[10:09] <lips> even the red light isnt working
[10:09] <alexander> what brand is it?
[10:09] <lips> Logitech
[10:09] <alexander> right
[10:09] <lips> nothing special
[10:09] <alexander> I had the same problem on my server
[10:09] <lips> just a simple mouse 2buttons and a wheel
[10:10] <lips> but it is not so urgent, because im using openSuse and i just want to test other distributions
[10:10] <alexander> ok
[10:11] <lips> but how do you fix it
[10:12] <RytmenPinnen> Finally kubuntu is giving me a slack, The package manager is working again and I could install mp3 codecs. Now its just the nvidia drivers left
[10:15] <ubuntu> hi @ll
[10:17] <dev_> How to change boot splash image ??
[10:17] <Jucato> !usplash
[10:17] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[10:17] <dev_> thx
[10:17] <dev_> let me try out :)
[10:21] <h4wk-desktop> Where is the 'Alternate' CD's partitioner??
[10:22] <Jucato> h4wk-desktop: it's a text-based partitioner. there's no GUI to control it. you have enter values manually
[10:23] <h4wk-desktop> Yes i know Jucato - I cant run live CD to use the partion manager there - So Where is the text based one , I am in the cd welcome page now.
[10:25] <Jucato> h4wk-desktop: you will have to go through the installation steps. or I think you could choose expert mode so that you could choose the partitioning step directly
[10:30] <Nookie^> hi! is there any way to install kubuntu with no apps installed.. none office, none games etc.. just clean desktop?
[10:30] <imagine> hmm prolly
[10:30] <|lostbyte|> Nookie^, yes, install the desktop cd and remove them.
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> Nookie^, as of it, you cant choose before installing..
[10:31] <xushi> hi all!
[10:31] <Nookie^> |lostbyte|: how can i remove evolution.. have tryied before but it says its not posible to remove
[10:31] <Nookie^> same thing with those games
[10:31] <xushi> just installed kubuntu =) but i'm trying to search for Nvu, i can't find it in the list. What should i do ?
[10:31] <Hobbsee> !nvu
[10:31] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[10:32] <|lostbyte|> Nookie^, what errror do you get ,and with what app ?
[10:32] <xushi> thanks Hobbsee. I heard it was in some extra repository in adept though
[10:32] <Nookie^> |lostbyte|: i get an error for example games... this package cant be removed since it depends on another programs
[10:32] <Nookie^> something like that
[10:33] <Nookie^> |lostbyte|: it feels like im forced to have them =(
[10:33] <Hobbsee> xushi: it used to be
[10:33] <xushi> =/
[10:33] <xushi> I need it for work, that's the problem
[10:34] <zero1> hi guys!  how do i make hibernate work on my compaq presario v3000?  it says i don't have enough swap space when it try to
[10:35] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: poke @ xushi
[10:35] <Hobbsee> darn.  he's gone to sleep
[10:35] <xushi> hehe
[10:35] <xushi> no worries
[10:35] <Hobbsee> xushi: ask tonyyarusso about it later, he knows more
[10:35] <bobstro> zero1: how much ram and how much swap space do you have?
[10:35] <Jucato> wouldn't he be able to install Edgy's Nvu?
[10:35] <xushi> thanks Hobbsee
[10:36] <zero1> i got 1.5 gigs of ram and 256MB swap...i didn't realized i'd need that much swap.  for the past years i've notice swap is hardly ever touched
[10:37] <zero1> i made a swapfile so 256 from partition + 750 swapfile   1Gb of swap
[10:37] <bobstro> zero1: i'm no expert (and somebody correct me if i'm wrong) but i understand you need more swap than ram since it saves to swap.
[10:37] <zero1> doesn't work
[10:37] <zero1> holee...i'm gonna make 2x swap based on my mem?  3Gb?
[10:38] <bobstro> zero1: no, but at least 1X.
[10:38] <bobstro> zero1: check the forums to be certain, but i had issues until swap > ram size
[10:38] <zero1> ok i don't want to repartition ...is swapfile ok?  it's slower but i just want it to hibernate
[10:38] <Hobbsee> Jucato: maybe.
[10:38] <bobstro> zero1: not sure about that.
[10:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: it's still unmaintained
[10:39] <Jucato> yeah, it doesn't really solve the *real* problem...
[10:40] <zero1> hmm....guess i'll try then
[10:41] <zero1> i read someone made it work using this: uswsusp
[10:41] <zero1> is this good?
[10:41] <zero1> it's from the forums
[10:45] <roland_> whats wrong with quanta 3.5.4 ?
[10:45] <roland_> images dont work
[10:48] <renato> damn feistu
[10:48] <renato> feisty
[10:48] <roland_> why
[10:53] <mikro2nd> good day
[10:54] <mikro2nd> Has anybody reported the following problem during an upgrade:
[10:54] <mikro2nd> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:54] <mikro2nd> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[10:55] <heinkel_111> http://www.kubuntu.org is offline?
[10:55] <heinkel_111> or is it just me
[10:55] <Jucato> it is
[10:55] <heinkel_111> ?
[10:55] <heinkel_111> :(
[10:56] <roland_> hey, what is wrong with quanta 3.5.4 ?
[10:56] <roland_> it blows
[10:56] <xushi> are there any tutorials on how to get LAMP5 on kubuntu ?
[10:57] <_4str1> !lamp | xushi
[10:57] <ubotu> xushi: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:57] <erikja> !nvidia
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <luca> -j #freenet-refs
[11:00] <xushi> thamks
[11:03] <renato> Hi there, has anybody in here any experience in installing ati drivers (fglrx) on a dual head system with feisty?
[11:12] <|ericsson|> Would anyone be a darling and help me with nvidia resolution problem in X?
[11:13] <pag> |ericsson|, what's the problem?
[11:13] <|ericsson|> Can't change resolution to anything over 640 now :/
[11:14] <pag> |ericsson|, are higher resolutions enabled in xorg?
[11:14] <orazio> salve a tutti
[11:14] <|ericsson|> pag: have the nvidia-glx-legacy (old TNT2 card in this one)
[11:14] <|ericsson|> pag: Yes, had 1280 yesterday for instance, before installed bastille..
[11:15] <pag> |ericsson|, sorry, bastille?
[11:15] <|ericsson|> pag: It just decided to go down to 640 by itself this morning...one of the reasons for me not liking GUI's ;)
[11:15] <|ericsson|> pag: yeah, I mean, bastille has got nothing to do with video, but after that the video did not work :)
[11:16] <|ericsson|> pag: Bastille was used to lock down ports and iptables so on, nothing to do with the videocard/settings
[11:16] <llutz> jeanette: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors or info why only 640x is used
[11:17] <llutz> |ericsson|: ^^ sry
[11:17] <|ericsson|> llutz: figured :) Have checked /var/log/Xorg.log and there is nothing wrong there..as far as I can see
[11:18] <llutz> |ericsson|: there'll be at least one line which says why this reso is used
[11:18] <|ericsson|> Modes: "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[11:18] <llutz> |ericsson|: thats xorg.cong
[11:18] <llutz> conf
[11:18] <|ericsson|> llutz: ah..hold on ;)
[11:19] <llutz> |ericsson|: maybe there's some info in /var/log/kdm.log too
[11:21] <|ericsson|> llutz: the latest nvidia entry is: (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "800x600" but still resolution is 640 now
[11:21] <|ericsson|> !pastebin
[11:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:23] <A_A> can u make a grub boot disk in windows or do i have to boot into kubuntu to do it ?
[11:23] <|ericsson|> haha, I can barely even paste due to enormously large windows :)
[11:24] <crazy_bus> my motherboard is not functioning correctly so I'm going to get a new one.  I'm looking for a new cpu at the same time but all I can see are 64bit cpus.  I've heard that 64bit k/ubuntu is hard to use and that some programs dont work.  Is this true and is it recommened I try and find a 32bit processor?
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> lol
[11:24] <renato> Hi there, has anybody in here any experience in installing ati drivers (fglrx) on a dual head system with feisty?
[11:24] <don> i had that problem resoultion?
[11:24] <renato> my problem is my big deskot setting gets lost as soon as I log in
[11:25] <heinkel_111> crazy_bus: 1. you  can run 32 bit kubuntu on a 64 bit processor no problem
[11:25] <don> I could not change mine
[11:25] <llutz> crazy_bus: you can install 32bit aswell, 64bit is only recommended for servers or on special hardware
[11:25] <renato> meaning at the login I have a bigdestop 3200x1200, after I login I get 1600x1200 and clone mode
[11:25] <heinkel_111> crazy_bus: 2. 64 bit kubuntu is generally good and has no problems at all
[11:25] <heinkel_111> crazy_bus: unless you want to see flash on your webpages
[11:25] <don> all I could get 600X480
[11:26] <don> way to big
[11:26] <|ericsson|> don't know if it's anything but here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18538/
[11:26] <renato> don, for that you have to go into administrator mode and set your monitor settings
[11:26] <don> I got mine fixed
[11:26] <heinkel_111> crazy_bus: flash on 64 bit is possible but it requires hacking
[11:26] <renato> well if you set plug and play sometimes it does not work, have a look if you can pick it up manually
[11:27] <don> I just kept swapping cards till it got it right
[11:27] <llutz> |ericsson|: "(II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)" check xorg.conf or rest of the logs why
[11:27] <A_A> um
[11:27] <A_A> youtube uses flash doesnt it ?
[11:27] <epimeth> A_A: yes
[11:27] <A_A> i have 64bit kubuntu
[11:27] <A_A> flash came as default
[11:27] <Jucato> !flash64
[11:27] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:27] <A_A> got no problems with it
[11:28] <A_A> ah k
[11:28] <A_A> can i make a grub boot disk in windows ?
[11:28] <don> I had trouble with flash then Pandora radio loaded it for me
[11:28] <epimeth> Jucato: is there any point in installing beryl at this point in time?  I heard them and compiz are merging the development trees soon...
[11:29] <A_A> i will brb booting in kubuntu
[11:29] <Jucato> epimeth: don't really know.
[11:29] <epimeth> Jucato: do you use it?
[11:29] <Jucato> afaik, beryl will sort of become compiz-extras
[11:29] <Jucato> nope
[11:29] <_4strO> epimeth: on my box beryl just work fine
[11:30] <_4strO> and no Jucato beryl is actually different than compiz
[11:30] <epimeth> _4strO: not asking if it works, just wondering if its worth the maybe hassel