[05:04] <lazyPower> the things you miss when you're off on swap, and log in in the middle of the night and check on the PALOCO :P
[05:04] <lazyPower> belated congrats WorkingTurkey
[09:12] <rmg51> Morning
[12:24] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys, hamsters and everything else
[13:18] <WorkingTurkey> danke


[04:36] <jam> morning all
[05:01] <Chipaca> jam: moin moin
[05:01] <jam> Chipaca, are you ok? I don't ever see you this early
[05:03] <Chipaca> jam: saw an email from tim saying we're doing the 6am meetings
[05:03] <Chipaca> but now not finding them on the calendar
[05:03] <jam> Chipaca, yeah, I don't see anything in the next couple of weeks
[05:03] <Chipaca> hmmm
[05:03] <jam> he's likely around now, though
[05:10] <Chipaca> jam: i pung him but no answer, i think i'll go back to bed for a bit
[05:10] <jam> Chipaca, sleep well
[05:10] <Chipaca> sounds like a good idea
[05:27] <jam> Chipaca, I just saw it show up on the calendar
[08:23] <Chipaca> jam: great success
[08:29] <jam> Chipaca, that we got the meeting scheduled?
[08:29] <Chipaca> jam: yes :)
[08:30] <Chipaca> jam: you need to read it with borat accent though
[11:26] <facubatista> Muy buenos días a todos!
[11:43] <jam> morning facubatista
[11:49] <facubatista> hola jam
[12:30] <Chipaca> facubatista: 'sup :)
[12:30] <facubatista> hola Chipaca :)
[14:18] <mup> PR operator#336 opened: main: log ops version on startup <Created by chipaca> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/336>
[16:12] <Chipaca> jam: tbh i _had_ forgotten about #282
[16:12] <mup> Issue #282: Harness: Unable to assert if framework was called correctly by charm <Created by relaxdiego> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/282>
[16:53] <facubatista> Chipaca, ctrl-c will always be ugly, unless we do something about it! not only when hitting the store, where I could put a specific exception handler there, think for example if you do Ctrl-c while it's zipping the build directory
[16:54] <facubatista> Chipaca, we could have a generic catcher for Ctrl-c and present a nice message to the user, like "interrupted by you" or whatever
[16:55] <facubatista> (IOW: it's something we should probably improve, it's more generic than my branch, let's open an issue about this)
[17:04] <Chipaca> facubatista: i guess before now there never has been a situation where i've wanted to hit ^c because it was always fast enough :-D
[17:05] <Chipaca> facubatista: filing an issue now
[17:07] <Chipaca> facubatista: if i have time today i'
[17:07] <Chipaca> ll play with that
[17:07] <Chipaca> but i'm behind on my charm reviews
[17:07] <Chipaca> we'll see
[17:07] <Chipaca> but right now, i'm stepping away for a while
[18:10] <facubatista> Chipaca, jam, when/by whom will be `remove_unreferenced_events` called?
[18:55] <facubatista> Chipaca, jam, is this what you had in mind? https://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-ceph-iscsi/issues
[20:56]  * facubatista eods
[21:48] <Chipaca> facubatista: remove_unreferenced_events is meant to be called by the charm author if/when they need it
[21:50] <Chipaca> facubatista: and, those issues seem spot on to me
[21:54] <Chipaca> facubatista: it would be nice to include the code when you're talking about it but i know it's faffy wory
[21:54] <Chipaca> work*
[21:59] <facubatista> Chipaca, "seem spot on"?
[21:59] <facubatista> what that means?
[22:00] <Chipaca> facubatista: que parece que la clavaste al ángulo
[22:00] <Chipaca> facubatista: that you hit the nail on the head
[22:00] <facubatista> Chipaca, and what "faffy wory" means? :p
[22:01]  * facubatista searches "faffy wory" and find links like "My daddy is a policeman. What is he doing at work?"
[22:01] <Chipaca> facubatista: faffy work, something overcomplicated compared to the benefits it brings
[22:01] <facubatista> ah, ok
[22:55]  * Chipaca EODs


[00:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: php7.0 (xenial-proposed/main) [7.0.22-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 7.0.24-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[00:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: php7.0 (zesty-proposed/main) [7.0.22-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 7.0.24-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[00:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: php7.1 (artful-proposed/main) [7.1.8-1ubuntu1 => 7.1.10-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[06:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: strongswan (artful-proposed/main) [5.5.1-4ubuntu2 => 5.5.1-4ubuntu3] (ubuntu-server)
[06:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tgt (artful-proposed/main) [1:1.0.71-1ubuntu1 => 1:1.0.71-1ubuntu2] (ubuntu-server)
[08:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mutter (artful-proposed/main) [3.26.1-2ubuntu1 => 3.26.1-2ubuntu2] (desktop-extra, ubuntu-desktop)
[08:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell (artful-proposed/main) [3.26.1-0ubuntu4 => 3.26.1-0ubuntu5] (desktop-extra, mozilla, ubuntu-desktop)
[09:15] <doko> mapreri: please upload the debhelper merge to a ppa when you're ready
[09:15] <doko> ahh, no, that's tsimonq2. sorry
[09:15] <doko> tsimonq2: ^^^
[09:21] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, did you get the automake one?
[09:31] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: yes, thanks
[09:35]  * mapreri was confused for a second there
[10:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (zesty-proposed) [1:17.04.10]
[10:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:16.04.23]
[10:40] <LocutusOfBorg> does anybody think that we can blacklist haskell so I can manually sync it?
[11:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qemu (zesty-proposed/main) [1:2.8+dfsg-3ubuntu2.6 => 1:2.8+dfsg-3ubuntu2.7] (ubuntu-server, virt)
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libmemcached (artful-proposed/main) [1.0.18-4.1 => 1.0.18-4.1ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[12:53] <mdeslaur> could someone please delete gnutls26 in the trusty upload queue?
[12:53] <mdeslaur> actually, wait a sec
[12:54] <mdeslaur> yes, please delete it from the trusty upload queue
[12:55] <infinity> mdeslaur: Reason?
[12:55] <infinity> (You don't seem to be in the changelog... Unless you sponsored it?)
[12:55] <mdeslaur> it includes a second SRU which was verified-failed, I want to upload a new one with a single fix in it
[12:56] <slashd> apw, ddstreet have re-submitted the lshw patch (re (LP: #1471983)) for Xenial (already in -proposed) and trusty is waiting for approval in the upload queue. Since you did the first review, would you like to take care of the 2nd ? I understand that you may not want to build a new package on Friday. I'm totally fine to wait for next week if you prefer.
[12:56] <mdeslaur> infinity: ie. the patch for 1709193 is wrong
[12:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnutls26 [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.12.23-12ubuntu2.10]
[12:58] <mdeslaur> infinity: thanks
[12:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnutls26 (trusty-proposed/main) [2.12.23-12ubuntu2.9 => 2.12.23-12ubuntu2.10] (core)
[13:41] <LocutusOfBorg> mdeslaur, <3
[13:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell (artful-proposed/main) [3.26.1-0ubuntu4 => 3.26.1-0ubuntu5] (desktop-extra, mozilla, ubuntu-desktop)
[13:48] <jbicha> please reject the older gnome-shell/artful proposed SRU, the new one fixes an extra bug
[13:50] <didrocks> doin
[13:50] <didrocks> doing*
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-shell [source] (artful-proposed) [3.26.1-0ubuntu5]
[13:53] <apw> jbicha, ^^
[13:58] <apw> jbicha, can you confirm that that first bug number is correct?  but bug doesn't sound like anything to do with headless
[14:02] <jbicha> didrocks: ^
[14:02] <didrocks> argh
[14:02] <didrocks> nicely picked apw
[14:02] <didrocks> probably middle copy/paste issue
[14:03] <didrocks> fixing/reuploading
[14:03] <didrocks> correct bug is bug #1725153 for reference
[14:04] <apw> ddstreet, that replacement lswh for trusty seems to still have the use of char isn't that meant to be uint8_t (cc: slashd)
[14:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-shell [source] (artful-proposed) [3.26.1-0ubuntu5]
[14:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell (artful-proposed/main) [3.26.1-0ubuntu4 => 3.26.1-0ubuntu5] (desktop-extra, mozilla, ubuntu-desktop)
[14:05] <didrocks> apw: ^ (correct bug # this time)
[14:10] <slashd> apw, the patch include 2 upstream bug, one that presumably fix upstream bug #653 (which introduce the char) and then upstream fix #701 (which replace char by uint8. So the occurence of char you see are probably the one in the 653 patch
[14:11] <apw> slashd, ahh will double check, ta
[14:11] <slashd> apw, thanks for looking
[14:11] <apw> slashd, one of teh problems with only seeing a diff of patches
[14:11] <slashd> apw, yeah ;) I know not always obvious
[14:13] <tsimonq2> dk
[14:13] <tsimonq2> l
[14:13] <apw> damn that cat
[14:14] <tsimonq2> grr mobile keyboard with a wrapped up thumb, going to find my laptop...
[14:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (artful-proposed) [3.26.1-2ubuntu2]
[14:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell [source] (artful-proposed) [3.26.1-0ubuntu5]
[14:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lshw [source] (trusty-proposed) [02.16-2ubuntu1.4]
[14:22] <apw> slashd, thanks and yes that was it, the patches are in the opposite order so i spaced it ... now ^
[14:40] <slashd> apw, thanks
[14:49] <tsimonq2> Oh, there. Hello doko, who I actually wanted to ping. ;)
[14:52] <doko> tsimonq2: ?
[14:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted numactl [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.11-1ubuntu1.1]
[14:54] <tsimonq2> doko: ppa:tsimonq2/debhelper is my merge
[15:16] <doko> tsimonq2: ta
[15:23] <LocutusOfBorg> tsimonq2, shouldn't it also build?
[15:23] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[15:27] <oSoMoN> hey release masters, can the SRU for bug #1718446 be given a higher priority so that it migrates to update soon-ish? it was meant as a 0-day SRU since the main use case is upgrades
[15:29] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: oh
[15:30] <LocutusOfBorg> missing runtime dpkg foo?
[15:31] <tsimonq2> hmm, no?
[15:32]  * tsimonq2 scratches head
[15:36] <tsimonq2> I'm wondering how this built in Debian but not Ubuntu...
[15:37] <LocutusOfBorg> got it
[15:37] <LocutusOfBorg> you won't know why
[15:38] <LocutusOfBorg> somewhat the merge deleted the lib directory
[15:38] <LocutusOfBorg> readding works probably
[15:38] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+sourcepub/8377053/+listing-archive-extra take from there without my changelog new entry
[15:40]  * tsimonq2 kicks grab-merge
[15:41] <tsimonq2> This is why I don't trust you!
[15:41] <tsimonq2> :P
[15:41] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: But it failed again
[15:41] <LocutusOfBorg> Can't exec "dh_builddeb.pkgbinarymangler": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/dh_builddeb line 27.
[15:41] <LocutusOfBorg> sigh
[15:42] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: You plan on continuing working on it or can I try and figure this bit out? :)
[15:42] <LocutusOfBorg> no I don't plan
[15:42] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[15:42] <tsimonq2> Ok
[15:42] <tsimonq2> :)
[15:42] <LocutusOfBorg> it is beerday, mostly leaving dailyjob
[15:43] <tsimonq2> Ok cool
[15:43] <tsimonq2> Have fun
[15:48] <LocutusOfBorg> ta
[15:50] <nacc> tsimonq2: LocutusOfBorg: if it helps, I am updating the debhelper repo at https://code.launchpad.net/~usd-import-team/ubuntu/+source/debhelper/+git/debhelper
[15:50] <nacc> should be done in a few minutes
[15:50] <tsimonq2> nacc: Ooh ok
[15:51] <nacc> tsimonq2: and note that we are able to import uploads from a PPA (offline). It can be a bit weird, but it should work (so you can see what exactly LocutusOfBorg uploaded to their PPA)
[15:52] <tsimonq2> nacc: oooooh
[15:52] <tsimonq2> Nice!
[15:52] <nacc> specifically `git ubuntu import-ppa ... `
[15:52] <nacc> tsimonq2: the debhelper import is current now
[15:52] <tsimonq2> Ok cool.
[15:53]  * tsimonq2 doesn't have upload access to debhelper so I'd like to try out doing a merge proposal...
[15:55] <LocutusOfBorg> nice
[15:55] <LocutusOfBorg> btw I fixed it probably
[15:55] <LocutusOfBorg> chmod +x dh_builddeb
[15:56] <LocutusOfBorg> ok, Merge O Matic, you are making me so mad
[15:56] <LocutusOfBorg> deleting stuff, changing permissions... something is wrong
[15:57] <LocutusOfBorg> nacc, https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+build/13599184
[15:57] <LocutusOfBorg> please import this one then
[15:58]  * tsimonq2 notes to never use MoM for debhelper merges...
[16:00] <tsimonq2> doko, LocutusOfBorg: I also pushed it to my PPA, and a run through sbuild actually works this time ;)
[16:00] <tsimonq2> Thank you LocutusOfBorg!
[16:00] <LocutusOfBorg> I changed also the versioning, see the latest upload
[16:00] <LocutusOfBorg> and deleted my references
[16:01] <tsimonq2> Oh cool, so then *actually* take from LocutusOfBorg ;)
[16:03] <nacc> LocutusOfBorg: so the way the PPA imports work, they are basically offline (local only)
[16:03] <nacc> LocutusOfBorg: they are a way for developers to grab what someone else uploaded to their PPA to see, not for use by the official repo
[16:06] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: I'll throw a good amount of packages at a PPA with the debhelper upload as a deb and see if anything breaks
[16:06] <tsimonq2> s/ deb / dep /
[16:13] <oSoMoN> sil2100, hey, are you still around? the SRU for bug #1718446 was meant to be published asap after release (because it affects upgrades only), and it's been verified, can it be published?
[16:16] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg, doko: Yep, I can confirm that the new debhelper works. Things in my PPA are failing for unrelated reasons. :)
[16:21] <sil2100> oSoMoN: hey, around, but I'm still reluctant to release anything on a Friday
[16:21] <sil2100> I can understand that it's upgrade-related, but in the unlikely case of causing any regressions we won't have people to revert it or see what's going on
[16:22]  * sil2100 seriously treats the rule of "no releases on Friday"
[16:45] <sil2100> doko: ppp merge prepared in a PPA, will push it to bb once it's open
[17:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: iproute2 (trusty-proposed/main) [3.12.0-2ubuntu1 => 3.12.0-2ubuntu1.1] (core)
[17:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: iproute2 (xenial-proposed/main) [4.3.0-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 4.3.0-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[18:22] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: You might want to update this ;)  http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/tmp/release-name-notice.png
[18:38] <andreas> do we have a name?
[19:30] <valorie> google says no
[20:22] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: traditionally I do so after the correct value of the next data point becomes clear
[20:22] <tumbleweed> :P
[20:22] <cjwatson> oh although apparently I forgot to do it in April
[20:25] <cjwatson> done, although possibly at some point I should arrange to be at less risk of being fired :P
[21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: deja-dup (artful-proposed/main) [36.2-0ubuntu1 => 36.3-0ubuntu0.1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[21:02] <slangasek> infinity: linux/armhf, if the rebuild test doesn't fail due to ENOSPC, it fails due to timeout of the build; and the ubuntu-regression-testsuite does get skipped because "doesn't work under isolation".  So we have zero linux/armhf tests we expect to pass there for the foreseeable future
[21:05] <infinity> slangasek: Okay.  But of course, you already badtested them, so xnox's MP still makes no sense. :P
[21:05] <infinity> vorlon:force-badtest linux/armhf/all
[21:05] <infinity> vorlon:force-badtest linux-hwe/armhf/all
[21:05] <slangasek> infinity: I only badtested them just now as part of resolving that MP :)
[21:05] <infinity> Oh, or that literally just... Yeah.
[21:08] <infinity> slangasek: My comment still stands, mind you.  The ENOSPC thing is transient and affects the whole archive.
[21:08] <slangasek> sure
[21:08] <slangasek> but again, if we don't ENOSPC, we timeout instead
[21:09] <slangasek> maybe we need to poke autopkgtest-cloud to let linux armhf autopkgtests run to completion
[21:09] <infinity> Which is also an infra bug, if it's timing out with input.
[21:09] <infinity> s/input/output/
[21:09] <slangasek> yes
[21:09] <infinity> Anyhow, I propose we solve it by dropping armhf.
[21:09] <slangasek> but it's a bug in autopkgtest since inception (it has an absolute time limit rather than timeout-without-output), and we should not waste time on the linux*/armhf autopkgtest failures
[21:10] <infinity> Good thing no one is quoted in recent interviews about how awesome Ubuntu and raspi2 are.
[21:10] <slangasek> what we need to do is adjust the autopkgtest infrastructure so that it churns the separated liquid back down into the bottom of the queue
[21:11] <infinity> Your metaphor might be too opaque for my sleep schedule.
[23:24] <xnox> slangasek, bdmurray - omg omg systemd is green with no autopkgtest regressions in xenial-proposed now =) please release =)
[23:24] <xnox> i guess on monday.
[23:24]  * xnox hopes nothing regresses in autopkgtest infra by then.
[23:25] <nacc> heh
[23:25] <nacc> xnox: ^5 nicely done :)
[23:26] <bdmurray> xnox: Take a screenshot
[23:26] <nacc> and attach it to the bug :)
[23:27] <xnox> bdmurray, frame it and put it on the wall, right? Just like https://framedtweets.com/
[23:28] <xnox> i think bdmurray needs https://framedtweets.com/products/thats-hot-parishilton =)
[23:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dpkg (xenial-proposed/main) [1.18.4ubuntu1.2 => 1.18.4ubuntu1.3] (core)
[23:29] <bdmurray> xnox: Do you know where those are made?
[23:29] <xnox> bdmurray, portland metropolitan area, no?
[23:29] <bdmurray> statistical area!
[23:30] <xnox> bdmurray, wait are you in statistical area but outside the metropolitan area?
[23:30] <xnox> bdmurray, also same thing!
[23:30] <xnox> Portland–Vancouver–Hillsboro, OR–WA Metropolitan Statistical Area
[23:31] <bdmurray> See I go by the official naming
[23:33] <bdmurray> Oh, I didn't realize Skamania county was a part of it
[23:40] <slangasek> it's metro-"adjacent"


[00:00] <knome> and as i said, once you mount something with sshfs, the mount appears as a normal local folder
[00:00] <knome> so you don't need any additional software
[00:01] <jules_> Hi
[00:01] <knome> !hi | jules_
[00:01] <jules_> i'm having troubles with ALSA drivers
[00:01] <jules_> thanks!
[00:02] <jules_> well
[00:02] <jules_> i have a crystal cx4235-qx3 audio card
[00:02] <jules_> and i can't get it to work
[00:02] <knome> which xubuntu?
[00:02] <jules_> i've been looking over the internet but haven't found how to do it
[00:02] <jules_> xubuntu 9.04
[00:03] <jules_> downloaded it a few hours ago
[00:03] <knome> jules_, okay. it uses pulseaudio as the default.
[00:03] <jules_> i downloaded and installed the updates it asked for
[00:03] <jules_> i guess that's not the right one for xubuntu, right?
[00:04] <knome> it just doesn't work for some
[00:04] <jules_> i'm pretty new with this and i have no idea where to start
[00:04] <knome> try removing pulseaudio
[00:04] <jules_> from synaptic?
[00:04] <knome> yep
[00:05] <jules_> it seems that nothing called pulseaudio is installed here or at least synaptic doesn't recognize it
[00:05] <jules_> (i didn't uninstalled it, though)
[00:07] <jules_> ... are you there?
[00:08] <knome> yep, sorry
[00:08] <jules_> no prob
[00:09] <knome> hmm, right...
[00:09] <jules_> it seems that pulseaudio is not installed
[00:09] <jules_> not under that name, at least
[00:09] <knome> okay
[00:09] <knome> so what's the problem? you hear nothing or you get an error?
[00:10] <jules_> i hear nothing and the icon in the tray bar (upper-right corner) is greyed out
[00:10] <jules_> and if i ask it to do anything it says..
[00:10] <jules_> let me see...
[00:10] <jules_> GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing. It may also be a permissions problem.
[00:10] <knome> right..
[00:11] <knome> if you right click it and select properties, what do you get?
[00:11] <knome> you should be able to select a sound card there
[00:11] <jules_> that's the way i got that :D
[00:11] <knome> ah, okay
[00:12] <knome> so what does 'lspci | grep audio' give from terminal?
[00:12] <jules_> the sound card i an ISA card
[00:12] <knome> aha...
[00:12] <jules_> let me see...
[00:12] <knome> has it worked before?
[00:12] <jules_> it says nothing
[00:13] <jules_> nor does nothing
[00:13] <knome> it shouldn't say anything as you have an isa controller
[00:13] <knome> ;)
[00:13] <jules_> nope, it didn't work before
[00:13] <knome> okay
[00:13] <jules_> great :)
[00:13] <knome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[00:13] <knome> this page might help you
[00:14] <jules_> ok
[00:14] <jules_> i'll give it a try
[00:14] <jules_> if i can't solve this i'll be back
[00:14] <jules_> oh!
[00:14] <jules_> wait
[00:14] <knome> yep?
[00:14] <jules_> i've seen in a forum someone with the same problem
[00:14] <knome> was there a solution?
[00:15] <jules_> theoricly yes
[00:15] <jules_> but it didn't work for me
[00:15] <jules_> i couldn't run alsamixer
[00:15] <knome> which error did you get?
[00:15] <slimjimflim> hi, anybody know how to make a i386 deb into amd64?
[00:16] <knome> jules_, suppose it's this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156334
[00:16] <knome> slimjimflim, you can't.
[00:16] <slimjimflim> what about the source?
[00:16] <jules_> no, it wasn't...
[00:16] <jules_> well
[00:16] <jules_> i'll read that one
[00:16] <slimjimflim> do i need to rewrite the code?
[00:17] <jules_> and the other one you gave me
[00:17] <jules_> if it doesn't work, i'll be back
[00:17] <jules_> thanks!
[00:17] <knome> slimjimflim, no, if it's written correctly. usually it is.
[00:17] <knome> jules_, np.
[00:17] <knome> slimjimflim, building from source builds to your architecture.
[00:17] <slimjimflim> ook
[00:17] <knome> slimjimflim, sometimes it's not possible, but that's rare
[00:17] <slimjimflim> ty
[00:18] <knome> np
[00:21] <jules_> mmm
[00:21] <jules_> i had no luck
[00:21] <knome> okay
[00:21] <knome> did you try loading modules as suggested in the HowToSetup... pgae?
[00:21] <jules_> apparently i have to use the snd_cs4236 driver
[00:21] <knome> *page
[00:22] <knome> jules_, it's ok, as long as it works
[00:22] <jules_> yes, i tried he modeprobe thing
[00:22] <jules_> with the driver i told you
[00:22] <knome> ok
[00:22] <jules_> but it said nothing
[00:22] <jules_> and then i couldn't use alsamixer
[00:22] <knome> jules_, what was the error?
[00:23] <jules_> i installed "alsamixergui" (guess is the same than alsamixer?)
[00:23] <jules_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[00:23] <knome> uh... i suppose that's gui for the alsamixer
[00:23] <jules_> what's gui?
[00:23] <knome> graphical user interface
[00:24] <jules_> i couldn't find the not-gui alsamixer in synaptic
[00:24] <jules_> ohhhh
[00:24] <jules_> now i understand
[00:24] <aacosta_> yeah i tried vsftpd again i must have something incoerectly on my .conf file
[00:24] <jules_> i have the graphic interface but not the mixer itself
[00:24] <knome> alsa-utils
[00:24] <knome> jules_, ^
[00:25] <jules_> it's installed
[00:25] <jules_> may be i should restart the pc?
[00:26] <knome> you could try that, but the module won't be loaded if you haven't followed the guide to the end
[00:26] <knome> i don't think that's a problem at this stage, though :)
[00:26] <jules_> i did it
[00:27] <jules_> i added the line in the module file
[00:27] <jules_> and then restarted
[00:27] <jules_> an hour ago...
[00:27] <knome> oh, right :D
[00:27] <jules_> but i didn't restarted when i installed alsa-utils
[00:28] <jules_> well
[00:28] <knome> jules_, that's not a problem.
[00:28] <jules_> i'll try restarting
[00:28] <knome> try running alsaconf after that
[00:28] <jules_> ok
[00:28] <jules_> i'll be back
[00:35] <jules_> no, it isn't working
[00:35] <jules_> and know i have no graphic interface in the desktop...
[00:35] <jules_> no toolbars at all
[00:35] <jules_> like when you close explorer.exe in windows
[00:36] <jules_> but i still have icons
[00:37] <jules_> alsaconf doesn't work either (it tells me "bash: alsaconf: command not found
[00:37] <jules_> ")
[00:37] <jules_> knome?
[00:38] <knome> jules_, okay...
[00:39] <jules_> how do i reactivate the explorer.exe-like thing?
[00:39] <knome> oh, the panels?
[00:39] <jules_> yeahp
[00:39] <knome> alt+f2 > xfce4-panel
[00:40] <jules_> oh, yeah
[00:40] <jules_> thanks :)
[00:41] <jules_> well
[00:41] <jules_> it's the same
[00:41] <jules_> no audio
[00:41] <knome> yeah
[00:41] <knome> i'm browsing through the forums
[00:42] <knome> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869
[00:42] <jules_> i think that i have not installed the ALSA apps correctly
[00:44] <knome> that's an old thread but there might be something useful if you're willing to read
[00:45] <knome> jules_, there's another: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337276
[00:45] <jules_> ok, i'll give it a try
[00:46] <jules_> thanks!
[00:46] <knome> np
[00:49] <MTec007> when will firefox be upgraded to 3.5?
[00:49] <MTec007> i just tried to install firefox-3.5 but it wasnt the public release
[00:49] <knome> karmic at least, if not earlier. you might ask that from #ubuntu-devel or sth.
[00:49] <SiDi> MTec007: wait a little, it'll be here in 2 days max
[00:49] <slimjimflim> is there a way to just run x86 binaries on amd64?
[00:50] <MTec007> 2 days?
[00:50] <MTec007> why?
[00:50] <SiDi> MTec007: packaging time ? Q.Q
[00:50] <knome> slimjimflim, on a 32-bit subsystem, yes.
[00:50] <MTec007> it should not take that long
[00:50] <SiDi> MTec007: if you really can't wait, use the mozilla team's PPA on launchpad.net, i've got the 3.6 at the moment
[00:50] <slimjimflim> any other suggestions for 64bit?
[00:50] <knome> slimjimflim, but i would recommend building the package
[00:50] <slimjimflim> i'm having a lot of trouble building
[00:50] <knome> MTec007, people are volunteers...
[00:50] <slimjimflim> missing dependencies etc.
[00:51] <SiDi> MTec007: it takes that long to make sure it works out of the box on enough architectures before you let millions of people use it
[00:51] <slimjimflim> buggy config file
[00:51] <knome> slimjimflim, you need to install the -dev libs
[00:51] <SiDi> slimjimflim: what package is it ? will help much...
[00:51] <slimjimflim> can you be more specific?
[00:51] <MTec007> it should work, i tested the 3.5RC's
[00:51] <slimjimflim> hold on
[00:51] <MTec007> :(
[00:51] <knome> slimjimflim, if the dependency is libfoobar, you need to install libfoobar-dev in order to fill the dependency
[00:52] <slimjimflim> jpilot-picsnvideos_0.2-1_i386.deb
[00:52] <SiDi> MTec007: feel free to raise your concern to the Quality Assurance team people, but they might kick your ass ;) Usually things like that are NEVER inserted between two releases, so that's already a big thing they allow firefox 3.5 to land
[00:52] <slimjimflim> http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=227672
[00:53] <slimjimflim> the dependency in question is gdbm-dev
[00:53] <MTec007> so your saying that they shouldnt upgrade it untill the next major version of xubuntu?
[00:53] <slimjimflim> which doesn't come up w/ apt-cache search
[00:53] <slimjimflim> i did install libgdbm-dev though
[00:53] <slimjimflim> but no dice
[00:53] <SiDi> MTec007: its how things work in Ubuntu.
[00:53] <SiDi> !sru
[00:53] <knome> !info libgdbm-dev
[00:54] <knome> slimjimflim, do you also have libgdbm3 installed?
[00:54] <MTec007> geeze. i guess ill have to download it and change my launchers
[00:54]  * slimjimflim checks
[00:55] <slimjimflim> knome: yea
[00:56] <SiDi> MTec007: is it SO hard to wait 1 or 2 days ? If so, as i already told you, you can use the Mozilla team's PPA which has daily builds : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[00:56] <slimjimflim> here's the source i'm using:
[00:56] <slimjimflim> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=227672&filename=jpilot-picsnvideos_0.2-1.tar.gz&a=32101995
[00:56] <slimjimflim> jpilot-picsnvideos_0.2-1.tar.gz
[00:57] <knome> slimjimflim, what's the error?
[00:57] <slimjimflim> configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub
[00:57] <slimjimflim> the file isn't in the dir
[01:01] <MTec007> k
[01:02] <slimjimflim> knome, i might be losing packets, did you just say something?
[01:03] <slimjimflim> idk if you can see this, but i'm reconnecting
[01:04] <knome> wait
[01:04] <slimjimflim> ok
[01:04] <knome> slimjimflim, copy config.sub and config.guess from /usr/share/misc/ to the build dir
[01:04] <knome> you can at least skip that error
[01:06] <slimjimflim> cool, i think it worked
[01:07] <slimjimflim> nope
[01:07] <knome> so what's the error now? ;>
[01:07] <slimjimflim> hold on
[01:09] <slimjimflim> no errors, but the plugin doesn't show up in jpilot
[01:09] <knome> did you "make" and "sudo make install" ?
[01:09] <slimjimflim> ya
[01:09] <knome> soundw weird.
[01:09] <knome> *sounds
[01:09] <knome> did you restart jpilot?
[01:10] <slimjimflim> ya
[01:11] <knome> hmm.
[01:11] <slimjimflim> lemme run jpilot from cli
[01:11] <knome> oaky
[01:11] <knome> *okay
[01:12] <slimjimflim> brb, i'm connected via phone, have to disconnect to sync
[01:12] <knome> np
[01:21] <slimjimflim> what a disaster, now it won't even sync
[01:22] <slimjimflim> bleh, i'm gonna make dinner, i'm famished
[01:23] <knome> ::)
[02:16] <jadez03> Anyone around?
[02:18] <Raggs> hi jadez03
[02:20] <jadez03> Hey there
[02:20] <jadez03> know anything about the audio in xubuntu?
[02:20] <jadez03> more specifically the audio panel applet and the media buttons on a laptop (like adjust volume)
[02:21] <jadez03> just switched to xubuntu from gnomebuntu and now they don't work, and also to adjust the volume you have to launch the mixer, which takes about 5 seconds, and is annoying if you adjust volume frequently
[02:23] <Raggs> jadez03, unfortunately I am not on my laptop atm
[02:24] <Raggs> in the middle of downloading xubuntu as well
[02:30] <jadez03> lol
[02:30] <jadez03> thanks anyways
[03:21] <cody> is there anyone here?
[03:22] <cody> damn
[03:22] <forces> :O
[03:22] <cody> I installed xbuntu on my laptop
[03:22] <cody> now my ouse wont work
[03:22] <cody> *mouse
[03:22] <cody> no mouse will work
[03:23] <forces> usb?
[03:23] <cody> nope
[03:23] <forces> ps2?
[03:23] <cody> I think so
[03:23] <cody> the green cable?
[03:24] <forces> =.=
[03:24] <cody> its round
[03:24] <cody> sorry im noobish
[03:24] <forces> your keyboard is ps2 too?
[03:24] <forces> ps2 have 8 pins
[03:24] <forces> in a circle
[03:24] <cody> yes
[03:25] <cody> well its a laptop the keyboard is built in
 ps2?
 I think so
 the green cable?
 =.=
[03:28] <jadez03> LOL
[03:28] <forces> xD
[03:29] <forces> does your keyboard work in another O.S.?
[03:29] <cody> my keyboard works in this one
[03:30] <cody> its the mouse
[03:30] <forces> :O
[03:30] <forces> the trackpad?
[03:31] <cody> no that didnt even work when I had windows
[03:31] <cody> its a ps2 mouse
[03:32] <forces> so the problem is not the software
[03:32] <forces> could be a hardware problem
[03:33] <cody> the mouse I had before worked
[03:33] <cody> that one died
[03:34] <cody> and ive tried 3-4 mice
[03:35] <forces> maybe the port is bad
[03:35] <forces> try with a usb mouse
[03:36] <cody> I have
[03:39] <cody> I think im just going to go with XP again
[03:42] <forces> ok good luck with virus and cracks
[03:42] <seevee> What would the command look like for copying files from local to ssh server?
[03:46] <jadez03> man, cody has BAD mouse luck apparently
[03:47] <forces> yes
[03:47] <forces> but he choose windows than a new mouse
[03:49] <jadez03> funny, under *buntu i have much better (and faster to boot) mouse support than under vista or xp
[04:12] <jadez03> anyone familiar with python?
[04:25] <jadez03> man its easy to get ignored here from people being away, but in #ubuntu you just get lost in a sea of questions
[04:58] <yesitisjustme> when trying to install googleearth it freezes and turns black anyone know what could be the problem?
[06:22] <tmurase> what is music player of choice for xfce?
[07:10] <R1cochet> i used to use audacious but prefer exaile myself
[07:10] <R1cochet> though i havent tried many of the others
[10:00] <mikubuntu> hey guys, this is prolly a stupid question, so feel free to give a stupid answer ... haha ... can i download an .rpm file of kompozer?
[10:01] <mikubuntu> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170132&package_id=194013&release_id=682029 doesn't seem to have a deb version listed
[10:02] <knome> mikubuntu, you can use rpm, but you have to convert it to deb if you want to install it
[10:02] <knome> !info alien
[10:03] <SiDi> knome: mikubuntu: i seriously dont recommand using alien
[10:03] <mikubuntu> oh, my.  ok, so i get 'alien' from synaptic?
[10:03] <SiDi> its said to produce bad debs
[10:03] <knome> SiDi, the question was "can i" :P
[10:03] <knome> you always can try
[10:03] <mikubuntu> sidi, oops
[10:03] <knome> the other option is building from source, which is a bit more complex operation
[10:03] <mikubuntu> out of my league, you might have guessed
[10:04] <SiDi> mikubuntu: you should download the source and compile it :)
[10:04] <mikubuntu> what about running windows version in wine?
[10:04] <knome> building from source is not the first thing i suggest to anyone
[10:04] <SiDi> native version is better usually :p
[10:04] <SiDi> its not _that_ hard
[10:04] <mikubuntu> i don't even know what COMPILING means!
[10:04] <SiDi> you just pick it, extract it, open the INSTALL file and follow the instructions
[10:04] <SiDi> it means turning the source code into the executable file that you'll use
[10:04] <knome> mikubuntu, don't worry, SiDi will walk you through compiling
[10:05] <SiDi> a deb package contains this executable file
[10:05] <mikubuntu> hahaha, knome is volunteering sidi
[10:05] <SiDi> mikubuntu: :D
[10:05] <knome> well he's the one suggesting it and not even try alien first
[10:06] <mikubuntu> alien sounds like it would be a good thing, if it were a good thing
[10:06] <SiDi> dont do stuff with aliens, knome  :p
[10:06] <knome> trying doesn't cost anything
[10:06] <mikubuntu> but if its not a good thing ...
[10:06] <knome> even if it produced bad deb, it just doesn't work and you can forget it and start building
[10:06] <SiDi> knome: it can cost a bad deb package that puts files in wrong locations and that you then have to remove ^.^
[10:06] <SiDi> or bad dependency tracking
[10:07] <knome> SiDi, they still won't break your system
[10:07] <SiDi> ah, who knows :P
[10:07] <mikubuntu> nothing can break linux
[10:07] <knome> SiDi, wel... you can always fix it
[10:07] <SiDi> hah, many things can, mikubuntu :)
[10:07] <knome> like i've done
[10:07] <mikubuntu> haha, ya, i know
[10:08] <mikubuntu> i once thought i'd try kde, and i din't like it, so i went to synaptic and uninstalled every program that started with a k.  that broke linux.
[10:08] <knome> SiDi, i've not done a fresh install since 6.10 and i've had the dependencies broken for *many* times
[10:08] <knome> SiDi, and i've even used betas ;)
[10:09] <knome> mikubuntu, lol, that was a bit harsh ;)
[10:09] <mikubuntu> ok, sidi, so are you really going to teach me to compile?
[10:09] <brainthunk> hi which one is faster xubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:09] <knome> brainthunk, xubuntu.
[10:09] <mikubuntu> xubuntu
[10:09] <SiDi> mikubuntu: actually, just extract that thing, and execute bin/kompoze
[10:09] <mikubuntu> fluxbuntu
[10:09] <SiDi> its already compiled for you :p
[10:10] <SiDi> mikubuntu: fluxbuntu comes with a WM, not with a DE </troll>
[10:10] <SiDi> knome: do you know what kompozer is ? A damn WYSIWYG html editor
[10:10] <mikubuntu> i don't understand.
[10:10] <knome> SiDi, nope.
[10:10] <knome> mikubuntu, it seems that the package is compiled, even if you download the "source"
[10:11] <mikubuntu> sidi, which file? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170132&package_id=194013&release_id=682029
[10:11] <knome> mikubuntu, so you only have to run it, you don't have to compile/build it to use it
[10:11] <SiDi> mikubuntu: the one for your architecture \o/
[10:11] <SiDi> knome: i'm helping someone to install a WYSIWYG editor :|
[10:11] <knome> SiDi, gedit is a good (x)html editor...
[10:11] <SiDi> knome: indeed.
[10:11] <SiDi> knome: my preference goes to npp (windows FOSS app) though
[10:12] <mikubuntu> sidi, usually the apps i get are for i386
[10:12] <SiDi>  	kompozer-0.8a4-gcc4.2-i686.tar.gz    should be the one if you have a 32bit architecture
[10:12] <mikubuntu> but the only one like that is rpm
[10:12] <SiDi> take the i686
[10:13] <knome> SiDi, *windows*?
[10:13] <SiDi> knome: yeh...
[10:13] <knome> dang.
[10:13] <knome> ;)
[10:13] <SiDi> they didnt have linux at work \o/
[10:13] <knome> install one then
[10:13] <knome> never been a problem
[10:13] <SiDi> was either windows or macos... seeing macos's usability definition, the choice has been fast
[10:14] <SiDi> my boss would have made an infarctus
[10:14] <mikubuntu> ok, its downloading will take a few mins on this slow connection
[10:14] <SiDi> i already made them switch from IE to firefox and it took me 3 months knome
[10:14] <knome> i've broken several workplace it norms ;)
[10:14] <SiDi> mikubuntu: why why WHY do you want a WYSIWYG editor ? :(
[10:14] <mikubuntu> it's downloading with archive manager
[10:15] <mikubuntu> cause i'm not a coder
[10:16] <SiDi> mikubuntu: still
[10:16] <SiDi> html is easy to learn
[10:16] <mikubuntu> grabbed a free template to make my friends website www.kikesplace.net a little more attractive
[10:16] <SiDi> WYSIWYG editors make you write really really bad things
[10:16] <mikubuntu> like what?  this is going to be a one page site with nothing fancy
[10:17] <mikubuntu> just address, pix, phone numbers, and email
[10:17] <SiDi> mikubuntu: like <style> inside html, tables everywhere
[10:17] <mikubuntu> i know, but im NOt a coder ...
[10:17] <SiDi> its not hard to learn at all mikubuntu
[10:17] <SiDi> just learn the very basics and you'll be done in an afternoon
[10:18] <SiDi> i can even help you if you want
, er, i mean <BR> hahaha
 is so bad...
[10:18] <SiDi> its <br />, and there is almost no valide reason to use a <br /> :P
[10:18] <mikubuntu> ok, archive manager just poppd up, what do i do?
[10:18] <SiDi> you extract the bin folder to wherever you want
[10:18] <SiDi> the executable file is inside it
[10:20] <mikubuntu> so i clickd on the /kompozer-0.8a4/ file and theres a bunch of subfiles, one is kompozer-bin
[10:21] <mikubuntu> how/where do i extract it?
[10:21] <mikubuntu> is that the right one?
[10:21] <mikubuntu> kompozer-bin?
[10:23] <mikubuntu> i don't know where or how to extract it
[10:24] <mikubuntu> sidi, hhheeeeelllllpppp
[10:24] <SiDi> extract everything somewhere
[10:24] <SiDi> in a folder which name you like
[10:24] <SiDi> and then, double click the file named "kompozer"
[10:24] <mikubuntu> i don't know where?  where is the logical place and name?
[10:25] <mikubuntu> everything, or just the kompozer-bin file?
[10:26] <SiDi> you put everything in the archive, wherever you want
[10:26] <SiDi>  /home/yourname/myfolderwhereiwannaputkompozer/ extract here !
[10:29] <mikubuntu> but i mean isn't there a logical place for it?  i mean i wouldn't put it on the desktop, or in documents, or pictures ... or videos, i don't KNOW wehre i should put it
[10:29] <mikubuntu> can you tell me where to put it :0
[10:29] <mikubuntu> hahaha
[10:30] <mikubuntu> really , i don't know wehre
[10:30] <mikubuntu> where
[10:33] <mikubuntu> i go have smoke ...
[10:44] <mikubuntu> sidi, i realized something when i was smoking.  this is an alpha package, because the kompozer i got from synaptic keeps crashing, but the developer says on the webpage that the alpha is better on linux... so, should i be looking for the old kompozer and overwriting it?
[10:50] <mikubuntu> i found two files in /usr/bin , one is kompozer, and the other is kompozer-config ... should i extract to one of those?  and leave the box checked that says overwrite existing files?
[10:53] <SiDi> mikubuntu: im back
[10:53] <mikubuntu> k, i freaking out
[10:53] <SiDi> mikubuntu: there is no logical place, no. Thats the principle of "portable" apps
[10:53] <mikubuntu> sidi, i realized something when i was smoking.  this is an alpha package, because the kompozer i got from synaptic keeps crashing, but the developer says on the webpage that the alpha is better on linux... so, should i be looking for the old kompozer and overwriting it?
[10:53] <mikubuntu> i found two files in /usr/bin , one is kompozer, and the other is kompozer-config ... should i extract to one of those?  and leave the box checked that says overwrite existing files?
[10:53] <SiDi> mikubuntu: you're not going to overwrite anything
[10:53] <SiDi> yeh i read you already
[10:54] <mikubuntu> now the archive manager is frozen
[10:54] <SiDi> you're going to extract it in a place that is in your home. something like /home/yourname/.kompozer/
[10:54] <SiDi> if you really dont wanna see it all the time
[10:55] <mikubuntu> well, i don't know what to do now, cause the window is frozen
[10:55] <SiDi> then you add a .desktop shortcut (get the /usr/share/applications/whatever.desktop, copy it to .local/share/applications/mykompozer.desktop and change the values inside so that you have a nice menu entry to your custom kompozer)
[10:55] <SiDi> hey, its an alpha
[10:55] <SiDi> and its a k app, too
[10:55] <mikubuntu> it wont' cancel
[10:55] <mikubuntu> wont close
[10:55] <SiDi> and its a WYSIWYG editor, anyway \o/
[10:55] <knome> SiDi, "the archive manager" ?
[10:55] <SiDi> knome: oh
[10:56] <knome> start reading ;)
[10:56]  * SiDi should drink more coffee.
[10:56] <SiDi> mikubuntu: kill the archive manager, and in firefox's downloaded files window, double click on kompozer it'll reopen the archive
[10:59] <mikubuntu>  cant kill it, i tried xkill and it din't kill it
[10:59] <knome> sudo kill -s kill [pid]
[11:00] <mikubuntu> don't know that one, is it sudo kill -s kill [archive manager]  ?
[11:00] <knome> no, pid is the process id
[11:00] <SiDi> pkill file-roller
[11:00] <SiDi> actually :p
[11:01] <knome> SiDi, :P
[11:01] <knome> SiDi, alternative ways
[11:01] <mikubuntu> ok, still don't understand
[11:01] <SiDi> there are weird things going on in mikubuntu 's computer
[11:01] <knome> heh
[11:02]  * mikubuntu wonders if its in the computer or in the brain
[11:02] <knome> maybe both
[11:02] <mikubuntu> so what is the exact command?
[11:02] <knome> 'pkill file-roller'
[11:02] <mikubuntu> sudo?
[11:03] <knome> SiDi, ? :P
[11:03] <jadez03> sudo get me a sandwhich
[11:03] <jadez03> or gksudo get me a vodka martini
[11:03] <mikubuntu> ok, killed
[11:03] <SiDi> no sudo
[11:03] <knome> jadez03, your username doesn't appear in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported to the system administrator.
[11:03] <SiDi> jadez03: you're not a sudoer
[11:04] <knome> a related np: Embrace / I Want the World
[11:04] <jadez03> damn you all
[11:04] <jadez03> i just want to get drunk and eat =
[11:04] <SiDi> mikubuntu: you're on a i386 pc, right ?
[11:04] <jadez03> =\* lol
[11:05] <knome> jadez03, you need sudo rights to use the command 'damn'
[11:05]  * jadez03 explodes
[11:05] <knome> *puff*
[11:05] <mikubuntu> sidi, got the file back up from the download window  .... what nex?
[11:05] <SiDi> Usage : explode [options] intensity - missing parameter
[11:06] <SiDi> mikubuntu: put it wherever you want :D it seriously doesnt matter, you'll probably have a deb sooner or later and install that deb
[11:06] <knome> mikubuntu, extract it to /home/yourusername/.kompoze
[11:07] <knome> !patience | SiDi
[11:07] <knome> ;>
[11:07] <jadez03> ./explode -blood -gore 9001
[11:07] <knome> jadez03, explode: unknown option -blood. use --help to see help.
[11:07] <SiDi> !i_already_told_him_to_put_it_there | knome
[11:07] <knome> SiDi, haha. pwned :)
[11:08] <jadez03> :(
[11:08] <mikubuntu> knome, ok, so that file doesn't exist, i have to 'create folder'?
[11:08] <SiDi> mikubuntu: yeh
[11:09] <knome> mikubuntu, yes, create the folder and then extract the package there.
[11:11] <mikubuntu> doesn't seem to have created a folder
[11:11] <knome> mikubuntu, folders or files beginning with . are "hidden"
[11:11] <knome> mikubuntu, they don't show up by default, so it's ok, you wouldn't see it
[11:11] <mikubuntu> i thought the . was a mistake
[11:12] <knome> mikubuntu, press ctrl+h to see the hidden files in a folder
[11:12] <mikubuntu> i hit create folder, then i put /kompozer
[11:12] <knome> do not add the /
[11:12] <mikubuntu> do you see why i am asking for exact instruction, i am not familiar with procedure
[11:12] <knome> just "kompozer" or as i suggested ".kompozer"
[11:13] <knome> that way you don't see the folder all the time
[11:13] <knome> (because you don't have to) :)
[11:13] <lean2501> it looks like i dont have /var/log/everything.log... how can i have it? :)
[11:13] <knome> sorry, just ask for more specific instructions if you don't understand something
[11:13] <knome> lean2501, "everything.log" ?
[11:13] <lean2501> yes
[11:14] <knome> what is that supposed to include?
[11:14] <lean2501> i used arch linux before xubuntu, and it has that everything.log
[11:14] <lean2501> every other logs
[11:14] <knome> ubuntu does not have everything.log
[11:14] <lean2501> ah :(
[11:14] <lean2501> so if i want to view things like a mounted usb or things like that, i need messages.log?
[11:15] <mikubuntu> ok, it seems to have made a file .kompozer
[11:15] <SiDi> lean2501: the person that asked for everything probably meant every file in /var/log ;)
[11:15] <mikubuntu> how do i know if it extracted there yet?
[11:15] <lean2501> SiDi: mmm dont understand :P
[11:19] <lean2501> well, i asked in #archlinux and it seems it's distro-specific log, not an standard log, so i'll use messages.log :) insted
[11:21] <mikubuntu> omg.  it's running.  thanks knome and sidi
[11:22] <knome> mikubuntu, no problem
[11:22] <SiDi> mikubuntu: no problem :)
[11:22] <knome> lean2501, no problem.
[11:27] <mikubuntu> yes, problem... arrrrgggghhhh
[11:27] <mikubuntu> now i can't find the templates folder that was there before
[11:28] <SiDi> contact the kompozer devs for that :P We can't help you much
[11:29] <Laibsch> I have /tmp mounted as tmpfs on my long-running LAN server.  df says that 115MB are taken, while find, du, baobab and just about every other tool can only find 14MB of that http://paste.debian.net/40730/  Where are the remaining 100MB?  I need to make a bit of room.
[11:31] <tavasti> Laibsch, some program creates file, opens it, and then removes it while open. That program can still use that file, and file disappears after program closes
[11:31] <mikubuntu> sidi, ok i found it, before i pulled up the hidden files it was up top, now down at the bottom, how do i hide the hidden files?
[11:31] <tavasti> and nobody else can see it
[11:31] <Laibsch> tavasti: not even root?
[11:31] <tavasti> cannot see it on filesystem
[11:31] <Laibsch> OK
[11:32] <Laibsch> How do I find out which program that might be?
[11:32] <tavasti> with 'fuser -mv /tmp' you may see processe which use /tmp
[11:34] <SiDi> mikubuntu: ctrl+h
[11:34] <Laibsch> What is gconfd-2?  It looks like a candidate
[11:35] <knome> Laibsch, it's a gnome... configuration tool
[11:35] <knome> ...daemon
[11:35] <knome> ...two
[11:35] <knome> ;)
[11:35] <Laibsch> Can I restart it?
[11:35] <knome> suppose you can.
[11:35]  * Laibsch looks in /etc/init.d
[11:36] <Laibsch> I stopped gdm
[11:36] <Laibsch> usage of /tmp has not budged
[11:37] <Laibsch> fuser gives me bash, mysql and this gconf thing
[11:37] <Laibsch> I restarted mysql, stopped gdm and am looking into bash right now
[11:49] <Laibsch> I brute-forced a solution now ;-)
[11:49] <Laibsch> Thanks, knome and tavasti
[11:50] <knome> Laibsch, no problem.
[12:06] <mib486> im installing xubuntu, and at some point it says "Debootstrap Error" Release Codename impossible to establish
[12:06] <mib486> what does that mean?
[12:07] <SiDi> mib486: please check that your CD is well burnt
[12:07] <SiDi> There is such an option at thebeginning of the LiveCD "Check disc integrity"
[12:07] <mib486> but is the one ive already used
[12:07] <SiDi> hm
[12:07] <mib486> and it worked on the other pc
[12:07] <mib486> could it be it got damaged in 2 mins?
[12:09] <SiDi> I dont think so
[12:09] <SiDi> Google says either its badly burnt or the driver is having problems reading it
[12:22] <mib486> i just checked it, it says its a valid cd rom
[12:35] <mozbuntu> can anyone \help with a new Xbuntu install ?
[12:36] <mozbuntu> am I in the right irc channel ?
[12:36] <ablomen> mozbuntu, yeah you are :)
[12:36] <ablomen> ask away
[12:38] <mozbuntu> thanks .. i perfromed an xbuntu install on an old machine that ran [windows ] . it seemdto go ok.. i restarted PC as per install recommendation and ...I got an arror
[12:38] <mozbuntu> "Io APIC resources couldnot be allocated "  follwed by some more text
[12:38] <mozbuntu> *arror= error
[12:39] <mozbuntu> Io = IO
[12:39] <SiDi> When you booted on the liveCD, it was working ok ?
[12:39] <mozbuntu> the machine ran on windows ok , just slow
[12:39] <mozbuntu> 866mhz machine with 1.5 Gig memory ram
[12:40] <mozbuntu> pentium3
[12:40] <SiDi> I suspect your computer doesnt support APIC
[12:40] <SiDi> ok, please boot on the LiveCD then
[12:40] <mozbuntu> ok..not sure what APIC is :-(
[12:40] <mozbuntu> ok i can boot from xubuntu 9.04?
[12:40] <mozbuntu> cd?
[12:41] <SiDi> Yes
[12:41] <mozbuntu> ok trying that now
[12:41] <SiDi> mozbuntu: we will modify the way your fresh Xubuntu install boots, to tell it to ignore APIC
[12:41] <SiDi> APIC is some processor stuff, but the Pentium 3 are likely too old to have it
[12:42] <SiDi> Tell me when it's booted
[12:43] <mozbuntu> booting now
[12:43] <mozbuntu> 1min
[12:44] <mozbuntu> ok i see the main menu and its booted .. i have the options F1,2,34 ... installXbuntu option etc
[12:44] <mozbuntu> check disk for errors ..
[12:44] <mozbuntu> test memory etc
[12:45] <SiDi> It's a LiveCD or Alternate CD ?
[12:45] <mozbuntu> Im not sure .. how can I tell
[12:45] <SiDi> (if you dont know then its a liveCD)
[12:45] <SiDi> The first option is "try Xubuntu" ?
[12:45] <mozbuntu> I used it to install into 2 other machines without hivkup
[12:45] <mozbuntu> hickup
[12:46] <mozbuntu> no ..there is no "try Xubuntu"
[12:46] <mozbuntu> the first option is " install Xubuntu"
[12:46] <SiDi> When you installed, it was a text-based install, or with pretty windows ?
[12:46] <mozbuntu> it was text based
[12:46] <SiDi> ok then it's the Alternate CD.
[12:46] <SiDi> Please press Ctrl + Alt + F1 on your keyboard
[12:46] <mozbuntu> I didnt realise there were two types
[12:47] <mozbuntu> 3
[12:47] <mozbuntu> on the installation machine ?
[12:47] <SiDi> From the CD's menu
[12:47] <SiDi> This isthe shortcut to go to the console
[12:48] <mozbuntu> doesnt seem to do anything
[12:48] <mozbuntu> there are 6 x function options below
[12:48] <mozbuntu> F keys
[12:49] <SiDi> ok, F6 then
[12:49] <SiDi> tell me whats in the menu :)
[12:49] <mozbuntu> keymaps
[12:50] <mozbuntu> language
[12:50] <mozbuntu> there doesnt seem to be terminal mode
[12:50] <SiDi> ok
[12:51] <SiDi> Do you have "Rescue a broken system ?"
[12:51] <mozbuntu> i installed the xubuntu and it didnt seem to complain .. except i rebooted from harddiosk
[12:51] <mozbuntu> yes i do have rescue broken system optin
[12:51] <mozbuntu> select ?
[12:52] <mozbuntu> i started it and it seems to check components
[12:52] <SiDi> Yes please
[12:53] <mozbuntu> i see io apic error in that list
[12:53] <SiDi> Ah, interesting
[12:53] <mozbuntu> it doesnt seem to recognise the floopy either
[12:53] <mozbuntu> and then seem tos go into text installation mode again
[12:53] <mozbuntu> 3
[12:53] <SiDi> Does it offer you any option to fix it ? I never used that thing
[12:53] <mozbuntu> yes im trying it now
[12:54] <mozbuntu> seeing what happens
[12:54] <mozbuntu> I thought Xubuntu was most suitable for older machines
[12:54] <mozbuntu> GVXc7-4X motherboard
[12:56] <mozbuntu> Ill be back .. i need to log off gfor a minute
[12:58] <mozbuntu1> back
[12:58] <mozbuntu1> any luck ?
[12:58] <mozbuntu1> any ideas ?
[12:59] <SiDi> Doesnt the installer offer you an option to fix this ?
[12:59] <mozbuntu1> well it  now hasd me in a terminal type environment
[12:59] <mozbuntu1> awaiting commands
[13:00] <mib486> in order to disable the APIC u should in the very first install menu select "advanced options" if im not wrong with f6 and then disable the APIC
[13:00] <SiDi> What you need to do anyway is to add "noapic nolapic" in the defoptions and altoptions lines of your /boot/grub/menu.lst (and to the already present boot lines) but you need a damn console to acceed this file
[13:00] <SiDi> ok great
[13:00] <SiDi> sudo fdisk -l (its a L) please
[13:00] <SiDi> and tell me the number of the parittion where you installed xubuntu
[13:03] <mozbuntu1> dev/sda/1 =
[13:03] <SiDi> okies
[13:03] <SiDi> then type this please : "sudo mkdir /media/xubuntu && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/xubuntu && cd /media/xubuntu/boot/grub"
[13:04] <mozbuntu1> x
[13:04] <SiDi> and then sudo nano menu.lst :D
[13:04] <mozbuntu1> "/dev/sda1 = linux
[13:04] <mozbuntu1> sda2 = ext
[13:04] <mozbuntu1> sda5 = swap
[13:05] <SiDi> type the command above
[13:05] <SiDi> and tell me if the last one works (the "cd" part)
[13:05] <mozbuntu1> ok
[13:10] <mozbuntu1> i assume space before and after &&
[13:11] <mozbuntu1> it looks like 3 commands correct ?
[13:12] <mozbuntu1> is the && at the end or begining ?
[13:12] <mozbuntu1> i am switching between two computers and one screen so thats a full command sequence
[13:12] <mozbuntu1> can i type it in three sections
[13:13] <mozbuntu1> sudo mkdir /media/xubuntu &&
[13:13] <mozbuntu1> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/xubuntu &&
[13:13] <mozbuntu1> cd /media/xubuntu/boot/grub
[13:13] <mozbuntu1> ?
[13:16] <SiDi> oh sorry
[13:16] <SiDi> you can
[13:17] <SiDi> type sudo mkdir /media/xubuntu
[13:17] <SiDi> then enter
[13:17] <mozbuntu1> "unable to resolve host xubuntu"
[13:17] <SiDi> then the next one, enter
[13:17] <SiDi> which one does this ?
[13:17] <mozbuntu1> "cannot creat directory /media/xubuntu : File exists "
[13:18] <mozbuntu1> I typed the whol thing as per what u said
[13:18] <mozbuntu1> above are the two replies
[13:18] <SiDi> ok
[13:18] <SiDi> type now : sudo mount /dev/sda1  /media/xubuntu
[13:19] <mozbuntu1> ok
[13:19] <mozbuntu1> 3
[13:22] <mozbuntu1> says command not found
[13:23] <mozbuntu1> "unable to resolve host xubuntu"
[13:23] <mozbuntu1> correction
[13:23] <mozbuntu1> unable to resolve host ubuntu
[13:25] <SiDi> it doesnt make sense
[13:25] <SiDi> can you do : cd /media
[13:25] <SiDi> and type "ls"
[13:25] <mozbuntu1> can we do something more basic
[13:25] <mozbuntu1> ok
[13:26] <mozbuntu1> "not found "
[13:27] <mozbuntu1> /bin/sh : cd/media : not found
[13:27] <mozbuntu1> 3
[13:27] <mozbuntu1> its not seeingthe cd ?
[13:28] <mozbuntu1> can we have a look at the drive sda1?
[13:28] <SiDi> ok
[13:28] <SiDi> thats annoying
[13:29] <SiDi> cd /media not cd/media
[13:29] <mozbuntu1> it must have been ok because it installed the xubuntu os
[13:29] <mozbuntu1> oh cd ^ /media
[13:30] <SiDi> the install is successful, it just cant boot because your processor doesnt like APIC
[13:30] <SiDi> thats funny because APIC comes from Intel, and your Pentium too...
[13:30] <SiDi> now that you're in /media, type "ls" please
[13:30] <mozbuntu1> 3
[13:31] <mozbuntu1> "cdrom cdrom0 flopy flloppy0 xubuntu
[13:31] <mozbuntu1> i perforemd a ls
[13:31] <mozbuntu1> performed
[13:31] <SiDi> ok
[13:31] <mozbuntu1> result above : cdrom cdrom0 flopy flloppy0 xubuntu
[13:31] <SiDi> cd xubuntu ;)
[13:32] <SiDi> now, tell me if "cd boot" works
[13:32] <SiDi> (cd is the command to _c_hange _d_irectory)
[13:32] <mozbuntu1> no
[13:32] <SiDi> ok
[13:32] <SiDi> type "ls" please
[13:32] <SiDi> and tell me what you see
[13:33] <mozbuntu1> "cant cd to boot"
[13:33] <mozbuntu1> cd xubuntu works
[13:33] <mozbuntu1> but cd boot ..says cant cd to boot
[13:34] <SiDi> I understood.
[13:34] <SiDi> type "ls" please
[13:36] <SiDi> Alright, nevermind the ls, type this _exactly_ : "cd / && sudo umount /media/xubuntu && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/xubuntu && cd /media/xubuntu && ls"
[13:36] <SiDi> and tell me if you see boot among the output of the last command
[13:38] <SiDi> if you see the word "boot" it means we're in the system partition, so you'll then do : "nano boot/grub/menu.lst"
[13:38] <SiDi> normally a text editor will pop-up, with a NON-empty file
[13:39] <SiDi> in this file, search for : # defoptions= .... and add "noapic nolapic"
[13:39] <SiDi> then search for : # altoptions=(recovery mode) single and add "noapic nolapic" to the end of this line too
[13:39] <SiDi> then, go to the bottom of the file, there are series of lines beginning respectively with "title", "root", "kernel", and "initrd"
[13:40] <SiDi> add "noapic nolapic" to all these lines beginning with "kernel"
[13:40] <SiDi> then Ctrl + O to save, Ctrl + X to quit
[13:40] <SiDi> then you can reboot the computer and remove the CD
[13:40] <SiDi> and your computer will work like a charm
[14:03] <mozbuntu1> anyone can help me with a Xubuntu situation
[14:04] <mozbuntu1> ?
[14:05] <knome> !ask | mozbuntu1
[14:07] <mozbuntu1> SiDi just helped me try and edit grub lst file to ignore APIC  but on completing the pc says NTRloader missing ... hit cntrl alt del . What have I done ?
[14:08] <knome> that sounds like a windows issue.
[14:09] <mozbuntu1> knome .. i perfromed an xbuntu install on an old machine that ran [windows ] . it seemdto go ok.. i restarted PC as per install recommendation and ...I got an arror
[14:09] <mozbuntu1> (21:38:47) mozbuntu: "Io APIC resources couldnot be allocated "  follwed by some more text
[14:09] <knome> mozbuntu1, i can read your conversation
[14:09] <knome> i somewhat know what you've been doing
[14:10] <knome> but the nt(r?)loader sounds like a windows issue.
[14:10] <mozbuntu1> sidi : made me edit the menu.lst file and after that i had the reboot issue
[14:10] <mozbuntu1> ok .. well xubuntu was loaded onto the machine and wiped all windows as far as i can tell ..
[14:10] <mozbuntu1> maybe its trying to boot off the otrher hard drive as there are two
[14:11] <mozbuntu1> mayber my boot order is wrong
[14:12] <mozbuntu1> im testing that now
[14:13] <mozbuntu1> ok so far so good
[14:13] <mozbuntu1> it was booting off drive 1 not drive 2
[14:13] <mozbuntu1> waiting to see if i fixed the no APIC situation
[14:14] <mozbuntu1> ccc
[14:16] <mozbuntu1> knome it boots but has same io apic error can u help me find that menu.lst file again
[14:16] <mozbuntu1> i have a prompt (initramfs)
[14:16] <mozbuntu1> is this terminal mode ?
[14:17] <mozbuntu1> cd root
[14:17] <knome> mozbuntu1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/207506/
[14:19] <mozbuntu1> thanks .. its says sudo not found
[14:19] <mozbuntu1> when i try it
[14:19] <mozbuntu1> the prompt is one i never have seen
[14:19] <mozbuntu1> (initramfs)
[14:19] <mozbuntu1> do i need to change user type ??
[14:20] <mozbuntu1> im not experienced enough to know
[14:20] <mozbuntu1> from the xubuntu 9.04 cd can i goo into terminal mode ?
[14:21] <mozbuntu1> its a non live cd
[14:26] <jpbaao_> when trying to run LveCD, it hangs just after the splash screen. I installed using the alternate CD and it does the same.
[14:28] <jpbaao_> Killing splash shows it hangs on init: ttyx main process terminated with status 225
[14:32] <jpbaao_> it also includes the line "unable to execute '/sbin/getty' for tty1 no such file found"
[14:40] <knome> mozbuntu1, ctrl+alt+f1
[16:33] <michauk_> hi there, for an asus eeePC 1000*, which xubuntu would you recommand? the official one? something customized for this notebook? thank you
[16:33] <michauk_> I saw eeexubuntu, but it seems to be very old (end of 2007)
[16:34] <sowmithry> hi
[16:37] <sowmithry> hi
[16:38] <R1coch3t> hi hi
[16:41] <forces> michauk_, try the official
[16:45] <sowmithry> I am unable to set user specific envinorment variables
[16:58] <michauk_> forces: ok, no need to optimize anything, due to the hardware specif. of this notebook?
[17:03] <forces> michauk_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[17:03] <forces> !eeepc
[17:03] <forces> !eeepc | michauk_
[17:06] <cemunal> hi
[17:07] <cemunal> can i install nvidia driver without jockey?
[17:08] <cemunal> i use hardy
[17:11] <forces> what is jockey?
[17:13] <michauk_> thank you, i'll check this
[17:13] <michauk_> bye
[18:17] <Shmeck> hi there
[18:19] <Shmeck> i'm having difficulty using python w/ xubuntu
[18:19] <Shmeck> I downloaded the PIL (Imaging Library) as an all platform version needed to be built
[18:20] <Shmeck> I am clueless at this point
[18:20] <Shmeck> I understood I don't have the python packages needed for building
[18:22] <SiDi> Shmeck: what do you wanna do exactly ?
[18:23] <SiDi> Shmeck: python-imaging is what you need and is in the repositories, i dont understand why you want to install another version
[18:23] <Shmeck> well, I'm used to PIL from windows
[18:23] <Shmeck> :)
[18:25] <SiDi> you're on linux ;)
[18:26] <SiDi> you dont download libs from everywhere, you use those that are available in the repositories
[18:26] <SiDi> avoids headaches
[18:26] <Shmeck> that fact is beginning to settle soen
[18:26] <Shmeck> that fact is beginning to settle down
[18:27] <Shmeck> anyway, it's a reminder that I have'nt yet built anything in linux
[18:27] <Shmeck> and I absolutly have no idea where to start, is the any piece of literature you could point me to?
[18:27] <SiDi> sure
[18:28] <SiDi> you could cross read this http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
[18:28] <SiDi> i dont know how you were doing in windows
[18:28] <SiDi> basically for python apps its not difficult
[18:29] <SiDi> you add #!/usb/bin/python to the first line (it'll tell bash which interpreter should be called when you execute the file)
[18:29] <SiDi> and then you make sure its executable (chmod +x filename)
[18:29] <SiDi> you write your code
[18:29] <SiDi> and you execute it : ./appname
[18:31] <Shmeck> great
[18:32] <SiDi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/207640/
[18:32] <SiDi> something like that :p
[18:32] <SiDi> if you need a lib, install it (python-imaging in your case), and then import imaging (i suppose its the name :p)
[18:34] <Shmeck> (it's Image BTW)
[18:34] <Shmeck> thanks :)
[18:44] <SiDi> you're welcome Shmeck
[18:50] <Shmeck> noob question, if using windows I'd write something like this "new_img.save("c:\\a.bmp") ", what is the equivalent in linux?
[18:50] <Shmeck> nothing seems to work
[18:50] <SiDi> trop new_img.save("/tmp/a.bmp") ?
[18:52] <Shmeck> /tmp//a.bmp was ok
[18:52] <Shmeck> sorry
[18:52] <Shmeck> "//tmp//a.tmp"
[18:53] <SiDi> s/trop/try
[18:53] <SiDi> i never manipulated files in python :|
[18:53] <Shmeck> but //home//username//desktop//a.bmp doesn't
[18:55] <Shmeck> oh, it's Desktop and not desktop
[18:55] <Shmeck> :P
[18:58] <SiDi> :)
[18:58] <SiDi> there should be better ways to manipulate files
[18:59] <SiDi> you should ask in python :P
[18:59] <SiDi> how to get the path of ~, and how to check if a folder exists
[19:01] <Shmeck> thanks SiDi :)
[19:05] <SiDi> in #python *
[19:05] <SiDi> really, i'm having typing trouble tonight
[20:36] <khems> Hi, I need help on canadian keyboard issue
[20:37] <khems> Anyone who can help me in resolving one of key issue in canadian keyboard
[20:41] <SiDi> khems: œ i suppose ?
[20:42] <khems> thanks Sidi
[20:42] <SiDi> if its that one, then i dont know.
[20:42] <SiDi> i suppose you were the one on the development ML
[20:42] <khems> oh yes
[20:43] <khems> I had sent mail yesterday
[20:43] <khems> did you get that mail
[20:43] <SiDi> did you contact the xkb devs ?
[20:43] <khems> I don't know how to contact them
[20:43] <khems> I am trying to find their channel
[20:50] <gaurdro> https://listserv.bat.ru:8100/Lists/?Language=
[20:51] <khems> thanks gaurd
[21:51] <Raggs_> hi all, i am trying to create a launcher on the xfce panel, but i cant get it to work
[21:52] <Raggs_> i have the command that works in a terminal though
[21:53] <R1coch3t> did u rt click on panel?
[21:53] <R1coch3t> and select add new item?
[21:54] <Raggs_> yes, i have the new item there, with the right icon, but clicking on it i get the error "Failed to execute child process... (no such file or directory)
[21:55] <R1coch3t> rt click on the new launcher and hit properties
[21:55] <R1coch3t> u have to tell it what command to executre
[21:55] <Raggs_> right, the command is the issue
[21:55] <R1coch3t> execute*
[21:56] <Raggs_> I'm an idiot
[21:56] <Raggs_> DOH!
[21:56] <R1coch3t> please elaborate
[21:57] <Raggs_> there is a little box that lets you choose the executable, never noticed it
[21:58] <R1coch3t> so all is well now?
[21:58] <Raggs_> yes it is, thanks
[21:58] <Raggs_> a web browser called icecat
[21:58] <R1coch3t> ahh ok
[21:58] <R1coch3t> how is that?
[21:59] <Raggs_> i like it, seems faster than firefox
[22:00] <Raggs_> R1coch3t, do you know if xubuntu comes with sun java?
[22:01] <R1coch3t> no i dont think it does
[22:01] <R1coch3t> thats part of the xubuntu-restricted if i remember correctly
[22:01] <R1coch3t> xubuntu-restricted package
[22:01] <R1coch3t> *
[22:01] <R1coch3t> i know i have it tho
[22:02] <R1coch3t> well actually i have JDK java
[22:02] <Raggs_> ok, i actually have to have the Sun version
[22:02] <R1coch3t> y?
[22:03] <Raggs_> for school
[22:03] <R1coch3t> ahh gotcha
[22:03] <R1coch3t> well check in synaptic for it
[22:04] <R1coch3t> it might be there
[22:05] <Raggs_> R1coch3t, how long have you been using buntu?
[22:06] <jadez03>  You're so beautiful, you could be a part time model
[22:06] <R1coch3t> almost a year i think, maybe just over a year
[22:06] <Raggs_> ty jadez03
[22:06] <jadez03> When you're walking down the street, depending on the street, I bet you are definitely, in the top three
[22:07] <R1coch3t> and ive only had xubuntu installed
[22:07] <R1coch3t> tried ubuntu and kubuntu but didnt like them
[22:07] <Raggs_> R1coch3t, i have been using buntu since the first CD, and also Debian
[22:07] <R1coch3t> ahh cool
[22:07] <jadez03> I liked ubuntu but gnome is a memory hog
[22:08] <jadez03> Recently switched to xfce, like it, but I think I'm gonna try LXDE soon
[22:08] <R1coch3t> cool
[22:08] <Raggs_> jadez03, depends actually, in Debian gnome is pretty fast
[22:08] <R1coch3t> what about enlightenment?
[22:08] <Raggs_> LXDE isnt bad
[22:08] <Raggs_> i havent really used it
[22:08] <jadez03> its faster than any windows install, but with certain apps (my 200gb music collection) gnome loved to hangup
[22:09] <R1coch3t> what ap?
[22:09] <jadez03> any music player
[22:09] <jadez03> amarok, audacious, gmusicplayer, etc
[22:09] <jadez03> i tried a bunch
[22:10] <R1coch3t> bummer
[22:10] <R1coch3t> exaile?
[22:10] <jadez03> no, but they work fine under XFCE ;)
[22:10] <R1coch3t> lol
[22:10] <R1coch3t> thats all that matters
[22:10] <Raggs_> xfce is fine
[22:14] <Raggs_> hi forces
[22:14] <forces> Raggs, o7
[22:15] <Raggs_> ?
[22:16] <S0210> Hi! Whenever I open a youtube link in my Opera (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUgNZKSQcrk) I see only a big white square. What would be worth to check?
[22:16] <Raggs_> S0210, is flash installed?
[22:17] <S0210> Raggs_: yes
[22:18] <S0210> I should also add that I see *mostly* big white square...
[22:19] <Raggs_> hows it work in Firefox?>
[22:20] <S0210> in Firefox it is OK but I have Flashblock by default
[22:21] <Raggs_> i see, i havent a clue
[22:21] <S0210> the same with me :->
[22:50] <jadez03> this is ground control to major tom
[22:50] <jadez03> take your protein pills and put your helmet on
[22:56] <Raggs_> jadez03, thats random
[23:23] <R1coch3t> is there no longer a switch user?
[23:30] <R1coch3t> nvm i got it
[23:30] <R1coch3t> just had to add the applet to panel


[12:10] <eshlox> hi, i would like take #kubuntu-pl or/and #kubuntu.pl channels for Polish users kubuntu linux distribution, both channels have been long since abandoned, and their founders long ago not logged, to whom should I notify about this?
[12:49] <topyli> eshlox: one of them should probably be dropped (#kubuntu.pl most likely, as its name is not standard for ubuntu channels)
[12:49] <topyli> the irc council could get ownership of #kubuntu-pl and assign access to your team as required
[12:51] <topyli> if the channels are dead, there might not be much of a team though
[12:53] <eshlox> irc council == each of freenode staffs?
[12:55] <topyli> no, the ubuntu irc council. it's handy to have staff on the access list as well, though
[12:55] <Pici> eshlox: the IRC Council is the Ubuntu team that is in charge of Ubuntu's IRC presence. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil for more info, or you can mail them at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:58] <eshlox> ok, so i will send email, thanks
[12:59] <topyli> eshlox: also, if the channels are unused, it might actually be easiest for the polish team to simply have #kubuntu-pl redirected to #ubuntu-pl. not saying this is necessarily so, just something to consider
[13:00] <topyli> might be less to worry about for you, just one team of operators and such :)
[13:02] <Tm_T> and one active channel is more than two not-so-active
[13:03] <Pici> One of them forwards elsewhere.
[13:03] <topyli> strange #elsewhere too
[13:03] <Pici> aye
[17:49] <Davion> hello there
[17:49] <Davion> someone is insulting at #ubuntu-tr and there's no operator but chanserv only
[17:56] <k1l_> since there is a  *!*@freenode/staff/* on access list you can ask in #freenode or ping some staffer here if noone reacts
[18:01] <Davion> thanks
[21:51] <PerfieM> so, what is this channel?
[21:51] <Fuchs> PerfieM: it is all about cake
[21:51] <Unit193> And ice cream
[21:51] <PerfieM> wonderful, I love cake
[21:52] <Fuchs> PerfieM: jokes aside, IRC operators coordination, if you have a problem with #ubuntu-*, you might be right here
[21:52] <Fuchs> PerfieM: how can we help you?
[21:52] <IdleOne> this channel is for basic ubuntu irc questions and also for requesting ubuntu/member cloak be enabled and other "Not sure where to ask" questions


[02:13] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: ping
[02:15] <rjian> hello beuno
[02:15] <beuno> hey rjian
[02:17] <rjian> beuno: wats the next UWN hehe i think i can write an article
[02:17] <beuno> what or where?
[02:19] <rjian> beuno: how can i write an article on UWN?
[02:19] <beuno> rjian: absolutely, what do you have in mind?
[02:19] <rjian> beuno: hehe writing article of FOSS Fiesta the Ubuntu-ph join the event
[02:20] <rjian> beuno: Conference on FOSS and E-Governance, FOSS Fiesta and Parallel Workshops on Joomla and Ubuntu
[02:21] <beuno> sure, write it and add it on the wiki
[02:22] <rjian> okie :)
[02:35] <rjian> beuno: i get the article from a blogs wer can i put it? i mean what sections?
[02:35] <beuno> "General Community News" is probably best
[02:48] <rjian> ok
[03:41] <bordy240> evenin', urrbody.
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> hey
[03:58] <rjian_> bueno: can i save 1st my work and back it again later?
[04:02] <beuno> rjian_: yeap, np
[04:02] <rjian_> beuno: hehe i have to think wat will i write hehe i just put and introduction..
[04:04] <beuno> rjian_: sure, think it over, if you want, you can email it to me and I'll give it a look before it goes in
[04:05] <rjian_> ive already save it but not yet complete hehe i have to think how to write it again
[04:05] <beuno> sure, it's going to be released on sunday, so you've got time
[04:05] <rjian_> :) ok
[04:06] <bordy240> how would one get involved with UWN by the way?
[04:06] <beuno> bordy240: are you familiar with it?
[04:07] <beuno> I mean, have you read a couple of them?
[04:08] <beuno> it doesn't really take much more then just finding out what needs to be done, and just add it in the wiki:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue32
[04:11] <bordy240> sweet
[04:14] <rjian_> beuno: take a look on my article hehe
[04:17] <rjian_> beuno: did u put the link on the community news?
[04:21] <beuno> bordy240: I'm here if you have any questions
[04:21] <beuno> rjian_: what link?
[04:22] <rjian_> beuno: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/817
[04:22] <rjian_> can i copy paste it on our UWN?
[04:23] <beuno> rjian_: yes, I added those to be summed up
[04:23] <beuno> I'm not sure that we should paste the whole text "as-is"
[04:23] <rjian_> beuno: yup i know.. i try to summed it up..
[04:23] <beuno> rjian_: great then
[04:24] <beuno> just don't remove the link  :D
[04:25] <rjian_> beuno: ok.. also https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+translations is just on one link hehe
[04:25] <beuno> yes, it's the link where users can go and translate
[04:32] <rjian_> beuno: ok ill try to sum it up and u edit it later..
[04:33] <beuno> rjian_: great, greatly appreciated
[04:39] <bordy240> I am about to smash my computer, so UWN might be out of the question!
[04:41] <beuno> bordy240: np, it's a weekly release, you'll get plenty of chances
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: pong. MT write up? ill do it
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab
[05:18] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: great!  just wanted to give you the thumbs up on the community spotlight
[05:18] <beuno> I'm off to bed
[05:22] <nixternal> don't forget to add my massive attack on the KTorrent security patch for every architecture on every release from breezy to feisty either! :)
[05:23] <nixternal> and while you are at it, don't forget about the big updating bug I introduced to the kubuntu-docs package ;p
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: willdo
[04:11] <PirateHead> Room live?
[04:15] <ssam> hi. would it be possible to add a link to he powerpc iso to the herd5 announcement page?
[04:16] <ssam> it has move to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/feisty/herd-5/ (note the ports) and a lot of powerpc people can't find it
[08:00] <adamant1988> anyone here conscious?
[08:00] <adamant1988> ...
[08:10] <jenda> nope...
[08:12] <MitchM> nay
[10:30] <Lord_Maynoth> hello
[10:30] <Lord_Maynoth> I had what I thought was a great idea... and was told to bring it here to this channel
[10:31] <Lord_Maynoth> Why not create an Ubuntu Idea Storm... so that average users can help with feedback and improve ubuntu
[10:31] <Lord_Maynoth> the best suggestions would float to the top... and help prioritize things
[10:32] <Lord_Maynoth> something like ideastorm.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <jenda> hmm
[10:33] <jenda> Lord_Maynoth: the best thing to do with marketing ideas is to elaborate them in an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:33] <Lord_Maynoth> well I wasn't sure this was a marketing idea so much
[10:33] <Lord_Maynoth> but I was told to come here
[10:34] <Lord_Maynoth> do I need a subscription to send email to that address?
[10:34] <beuno> I think this is probably the best (maybe not ideal) place
[10:34] <beuno> but I did mention the mailing list is the best way to go  ;)
[10:34] <Lord_Maynoth> I signed up for the launchpad mailing address
[10:34] <Lord_Maynoth> where do I signup for the marketing
[10:35] <beuno> jenda: can I grab your attention for a few minutes?
[10:35] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[10:35] <jenda> beuno: awww
[10:35] <jenda> beuno: I was about to go to bed!
[10:35] <jenda> :)
[10:35] <jenda> beuno: take that as a 'yes'
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth> and you think marketing is the best place to send this idea?
[10:35] <beuno> I'm really good at catching you in those "about to" moments  :D
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: i did the write up, did you see it?
[10:35] <Lord_Maynoth> or is their some other dept. that would be better?
[10:35] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: yes, it's great!   UWN #32 is really shaping up!
[10:36] <jenda> Lord_Maynoth: I'm not sure... it seems... well, as if we already had mechanisms for ideas and feedback...
[10:36] <beuno> jenda: it's about the mail on forums -> launchpad integration
[10:36] <jenda> ah
[10:36] <beuno> you seemeed pretty connected with ubuntuforums admins
[10:37] <beuno> and I just found a way to go ahead with this without launchpad devs help
[10:37] <jenda> as any staffer could be ;)
[10:37] <jenda> hmm
[10:37] <beuno> I will still bug them, but at least I can go forward with it
[10:37] <beuno> I've even installed vbulletin and done tests
[10:37] <beuno> :D
[10:38] <beuno> the main idea is to be able to asociate bugs with threads
[10:38] <beuno> so, to start off, users can add the bug ID as a tag
[10:38] <beuno> and a small but handy PHP script can get the info for the "numeric" tags and show the related bugs status and link
[10:39] <beuno> I really don't think it would be hard to implement
[10:39] <jenda> hmm
[10:39] <jenda> beuno: that's some good stuff...
[10:39] <beuno> (I said PHP, it can be python too)
[10:40] <beuno> and I've found out how to get that info and parse it from launchpad
[10:40] <beuno> so basically it's up to the forum people
[10:40] <Lord_Maynoth> I was just wondering jenda, what mechanisms for user feedback are there besides the forums?
[10:41] <beuno> I do want the "related forum threads" on launchpad, but it's harder to get those peoples attention, so it will take a bit longer
[10:41] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: what kind of feedback?
[10:41] <jenda> Lord_Maynoth: umm... forums ;)
[10:42] <Lord_Maynoth> well say for things users think could be improved upon,  annoyances, bugs, etc
[10:42] <jenda> beuno: could you write that up in a single post in the forum feedback part?
[10:42] <Lord_Maynoth> I just think something like dell's idea storm could help make ubuntu even better
[10:42] <jenda> I'll link to it from the staff forum.
[10:43] <beuno> jenda: absolutely, on it
[10:43] <jenda> beuno: and then, I'll prod them about it till they do it... ;)
[10:43] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: have you seen launchpad?
[10:43] <jenda> and now, I'm just about to collapse...
[10:43] <beuno> jenda: I've also got some responses from launchpad devs like:  <flacoste> beuno: if that's of some confort to you, I've flagged your email as TODO as I intend to reply to it, just not got the time yet
[10:43] <Lord_Maynoth> yes but it seems to complex for the adverage joe...
[10:44] <jenda> beuno: if you want to be sure I don't forget, drop me a tiny short reminder email ;)
[10:44] <beuno> jenda: go sleep, thanks
[10:44] <beuno> I will send you an email with the link
[10:44] <beuno> g'night
[10:44] <jenda>
[10:44] <jenda> night
[10:44] <Lord_Maynoth> night
[10:44] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: I agree, but forums aren't
[10:45] <beuno> and there is a specific team being built to take the forum information to launchpad
[10:45] <Lord_Maynoth> well thats true... but forums aren't very conducive for suggestions
[10:45] <beuno> so that might solve it
[10:45] <beuno> heh, well, it's going to be a hard battle to get some attention, but I think it's worth a try
[10:45] <beuno> write up a clear and easy to read email
[10:45] <beuno> send it to the mailing list
[10:46] <beuno> that way some people with decision power can read about it
[10:49] <Burgwork> Lord_Maynoth: the problem with ideastorms is that they have a habit of being lemming indicators
[10:49] <Burgwork> plus they give false hope
[10:49] <Burgwork> because some requests are not as simple as they look, etc.
[10:51] <adamant1988> hello all
[10:52] <Lord_Maynoth> lemming?
[10:53] <adamant1988> Lord_Maynoth: hrmm?
[10:55] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know of anyway one can create an ideastorm style website
[10:55] <Lord_Maynoth> are there any premade hosting options for such a thing?
[10:56] <adamant1988> Lord_Maynoth: are you the one suggesting that one the forums
[10:57] <Lord_Maynoth> yes
[10:57] <Lord_Maynoth> I was advised to come here
[10:57] <Lord_Maynoth> I am writing up an email to the marketing list and launchpad list
[10:58] <adamant1988> Ok, well, I tell you what
[10:58] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: the Ubuntu wiki is probably what you're looking for
[10:58] <adamant1988> I've been working privately on something similiar, so I'll give you my personal email and we can collaborate.
[10:58] <adamant1988> to get a good proposal together, if you like.
[10:58] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: I'm not sure launchpad is the place to go
[10:59] <Lord_Maynoth> cool adamant
[10:59] <adamant1988> beuno: launchpad like functions actually WOULD help this along
[11:00] <beuno> adamant1988: I agree, but it's going to be *very* hard to get the devs to add whole new section to launchpad
[11:00] <adamant1988> beuno: I was hoping shuttleworth could be convinced to open up another launchpad all together, with a more community oriented focus.
[11:01] <adamant1988> beuno: launchpad right now is for Devs and such, a community launchpad would be for things just like this.
[11:01] <beuno> adamant1988: AFAIK, he's already convinced, it's just that the code isn't at a stage where it can be opened
[11:01] <Lord_Maynoth> yes... I think the users could provide invaluable feedback and suggestions
[11:01] <adamant1988> Lord_Maynoth: There are LOTS of ways for users to provide feedback and suggestions.
[11:02] <adamant1988> The problem is (as I see it) that the marketing team has not done the work collectively to harnass those.
[11:02] <Lord_Maynoth> a simple idea storm for suggestions, annoyances, and bugs, would be much more conducive because the best would float tot he top
[11:02] <adamant1988> Eh...
[11:02] <adamant1988> You're asking too much of it already
[11:02] <adamant1988> Launchpad is for handling bugs and such, and it does very well at it.
[11:02] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: comments and bug duplicates are a good indication of bugs that need attention already
[11:03] <Lord_Maynoth> but average users don't know how to do use launchpad
[11:03] <adamant1988> Lord_Maynoth: That isn't a problem come April.
[11:03] <adamant1988> I'm using Feisty right now, and I've yet to go to launchpad to submit a bug, but I've submitted about 5 of them
[11:03] <adamant1988> It's automated in feisty
[11:03] <Lord_Maynoth> well perhaps just a idea-storm for just suggestions and annoyances..
[11:04] <adamant1988> Well, first off, calling it an ideastorm isn't proper.  ideastorm implies brainstorming, which is just not what that is.
[11:04] <adamant1988> No, if you're talking about a suggestions site with a dig-esque interface, that can be done.
[11:05] <adamant1988> although I think that there are better ways to do it, personally.
[11:05] <adamant1988> going all "web 2.0" will just complicate an procedure that doesn't need to be nearly that complicated.
[11:06] <Lord_Maynoth> your right...
[11:06] <adamant1988> as I said, I'll give you my personal email and we can talk about it<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:06] <Lord_Maynoth> cool
[11:06] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks
[11:06] <adamant1988> and by myname, you know what I mean
[11:07] <Lord_Maynoth> haha I am a n00b but not that n00bish :B
[11:07] <adamant1988> I've seen a lot of smart people make that mistake.
[11:08] <Lord_Maynoth> k I sent an email to u
[11:08] <adamant1988> Anyway Lord_Maynoth I'm more in favor of collecting information with a higher number of people involved.
[11:08] <Lord_Maynoth> yes me 2
[11:09] <Lord_Maynoth> I believe in the collective power sites like digg have
[11:09] <adamant1988> Well, the only way to do that really is to try to include them directly in Ubuntu, in some fashion.
[11:09] <adamant1988> Lord_Maynoth: Digg has the power of group manipulation at it's side.  It is VERY poor for representing people's true opinions (past comments) in my opinion.
[11:10] <adamant1988> Digg is good for news because it gets good news out there fast, it is a bad idea for opinions.
[11:10] <adamant1988> Opinions, suggestions, etc. should be collected individually and then checked for similarities.
[11:10] <Lord_Maynoth> seems like a lot of work
[11:10] <Lord_Maynoth> any way to automate that process?
[11:10] <adamant1988> When you put a group of people together, they typically will come to some kind of an agreement about what they think, I've seen case studies that prove this.
[11:11] <adamant1988> Ubuntu would benefit more from the invidivual suggestion
[11:12] <adamant1988> I've been meaning to talk to the marketing team about collecting this information.
[11:13] <adamant1988> Although I'm more in favor of putting links to Surveys directly inside of Ubuntu.
[11:15] <beuno> adamant1988: polls are available in launchpad already!
[11:16] <adamant1988> beuno: In launchpad?!
[11:16] <adamant1988> You don't say
[11:16] <adamant1988> You mean that high traffic site that no user ever visits?
[11:16] <beuno> https://beta.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing
[11:16] <adamant1988> Gah! why didn't I think of that.
[11:16] <beuno> see "Polls" option on the left
[11:17] <beuno> I understand
[11:17] <adamant1988> It's hard to get good feedback when no one sees the polls.
[11:17] <beuno> you want to reach out to new users
[11:17] <adamant1988> particularly not the no-ones that we WANT to be seeing the polls.
[11:22] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know any sites that allow digg style voting in a premade format?
[11:22] <adamant1988> Lord_Maynoth: get off the digg thing
[11:22] <Lord_Maynoth> haha
[11:22] <Lord_Maynoth> ok
[11:22] <Lord_Maynoth> I was just thinking about setting up my own site
[11:22] <adamant1988> If you really want someone's opinion, you don't ask the group.
[11:23] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: it might benefit more users if you try to get it done through the Ubuntu Community, it might be harder, but I think eventually it can have a bigger effect
[11:24] <Lord_Maynoth> well so far everyone I have talked to said it would be too much work to implement and maintain
[11:27] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: yes, but don't be discourged by that, you just have to keep on pushing and seing how your idea can integrate with the existing platform
[11:27] <beuno> just try to be understanding
[11:28] <Lord_Maynoth> I am working on getting something going on my site using pligg
[11:32] <beuno> Lord_Maynoth: working together with adamant1988 might be a good idea
[11:32] <adamant1988> Lord_Maynoth: It's not about maintaining it.  If you turn these ideas into #'s that can be watched for similarities then it's not a big deal to keep track of it.
[11:33] <Lord_Maynoth> thats a little of of my league..
[11:33] <Lord_Maynoth> but pligg seems very versatile
[11:33] <Lord_Maynoth> you might wanna check it out
[11:33] <Lord_Maynoth> http://www.pligg.com/
[11:34] <adamant1988> hrmm.
[11:35] <adamant1988> I still disagree with going with the digg-idea.
[11:38] <Lord_Maynoth> anywho guys I gotta run
[11:38] <Lord_Maynoth> ttyl


[13:21] <mup> Bug #1523091 opened: dhcp/dns inconsistency prevents enlistment <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523091>
[14:21] <mup> Bug #1523104 opened: [UI] Unable to deselect boot flag for an available disk <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523104>
[14:24] <mup> Bug #1523104 changed: [UI] Unable to deselect boot flag for an available disk <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523104>
[14:27] <mup> Bug #1523104 opened: [UI] Unable to deselect boot flag for an available disk <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523104>
[16:06] <nagyz> Bofu2U, I'm using 1.9rc2 now as 1.8 lacks bonding which I need :)
[19:29] <Bofu2U> nagyz: looks like you just told me which version I need then :P
[19:42] <Bofu2U> nagyz also pretty sure the reason these are failing - keep saying can't find package like puppet so I think the network aspect isn't passing access to the apt for certain things, etc.
[19:54] <nagyz> make sure that the IP they have is 1, reachable 2, has access to the maas server
[19:54] <Bofu2U> yeah they do - they're on a 10.20 untagged
[19:55] <Bofu2U> so it definitely works
[19:55] <Bofu2U> and in the beginning I can see it do an apt-get install and it works with those packages
[19:55] <Bofu2U> :|
[19:55] <nagyz> unrelated thing: I have a NIC that comes up x1 on an x8 slot
[19:55] <nagyz> any ideas what I could try?
[19:55] <Bofu2U> hm
[19:56] <nagyz> eth1: Chelsio T420-CR rev 2 1000/10GBASE-R SFP+ RNIC PCIe x1 5 GT/s MSI-X
[19:57] <Bofu2U> does it show up after deploy?
[19:57] <nagyz> yeah this is after deploy
[19:57] <nagyz> it works but given it's x1, I only get ~4Gbit
[19:58] <nagyz> well, it's ~4Gbit on a 2x10Gbit bonded link :)
[19:58] <Bofu2U> ah yeah. hm
[19:58] <Bofu2U> Nothing off hand sadly :(
[19:58] <nagyz> tried changing kernels, didn't make a difference
[19:58] <nagyz> and this is the same in all 3 machines I have
[19:59] <nagyz> well, I have 3 machines with chelsio. the others with the intel nics work
[20:03] <nagyz> I'll change it from UEFI to Legacy let's see if that makes a difference :)
[20:15] <Bofu2U> good call
[20:22] <Bofu2U> gah its not able to find IPMI on it. :|
[23:40] <nagyz> well mine can't redeploy :)
[23:50] <mup> Bug #1523104 changed: [UI] Unable to deselect boot flag for an available disk <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523104>


[14:14] <Xserty> up the dubs! ;)
[14:15] <moylan> i'm guessing some sort of sporting event?
[14:23] <slashtom> no, i think dublin is beinng raised up a couple of hundred metres, as we need cooler weather, hence the "up the dubs" today
[14:25] <Xserty> slashtom: lol
[14:27] <ebel> everyone lift now
[14:28] <Xserty> standing up
[14:29] <moylan> damn it.  haven't parked my hard drive!