[18:12] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:54] <mwhudson> morning
[19:55] <mwhudson> i think
[20:01] <hads> morning
[21:20] <Atamira> morning


[07:29] <lullabud> i just noticed that my /etc/hosts file has "<IP_ADDRESS>  hostname" as an entry...  anybody know what's up with <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[07:29] <lullabud> it also has <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[07:29] <lullabud> i've just never see the <IP_ADDRESS> entry before..
[08:10] <mralphabet> there are several mailing list discussions about it on google
[08:10] <mralphabet> just search for <IP_ADDRESS> and it will come up
[08:37] <lullabud> mralphabet:  yeah, i found a bunch of "bug #" type of posts.  i guess i was hoping for a technical explanation of exactly why they chose to do that...
[08:54] <mralphabet> the best explanation that I could see was "localhost should be the only thing that resolves to 127.0.01, everything else should move through xyz"
[08:54] <mralphabet> in this case, xyz = <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:01] <lullabud> huh... interesting.  that seems like it's a good idea, actually.
[09:01] <lullabud> thanks mralphabet
[09:02] <coNP> why is it a good idea?
[09:02] <coNP> I mean I think I missed the point
[09:07] <mralphabet> I believe, and others would be more qualified to answer then I, that if you have a machine that is on any sort of network, you do not want the machine name to resolve to <IP_ADDRESS> because the secondary machine may get the wrong answer and try to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>, which would be . . . itself . . . it's preventing the snowball effect
[09:12] <lullabud> another thing is that it offers a way to locally test network changes, specifically firewall changes.
[09:13] <lullabud> if you allow connections from localhost as <IP_ADDRESS> but want to deny others, you could connect to localhost to test your lo, and [hostname]  to test outside access
[09:14] <lullabud> i know solaris uses one hostname per physical interface, so it would make sense that logical interfaces would also use that scheme.  but this is linux...
[09:23] <coNP> thanks
[11:24] <Spritz> anyone using ubuntu/sparc?


[12:58] <mup> Bug #1896479 opened: KVM host with Ceph based storage pool <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896479>
[20:43] <mup> Bug #1896541 opened: CentOS deployments should use rack controller as built-in proxy server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896541>
[20:46] <mup> Bug #1896541 changed: CentOS deployments should use rack controller as built-in proxy server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896541>
[20:52] <mup> Bug #1896541 opened: CentOS deployments should use rack controller as built-in proxy server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896541>
[20:58] <mup> Bug #1896541 changed: CentOS deployments should use rack controller as built-in proxy server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896541>
[21:01] <mup> Bug #1896541 opened: CentOS deployments should use rack controller as built-in proxy server <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896541>


[11:40] <ryan> lunchtime!
[11:40] <ryan> http://ryan.slipgate.org/img/sandwiches.jpg
[11:40] <Matt|> cardador, ATI IGP 340M
[11:40] <cardador> Matt|: i have nvidia...
[11:40] <Matt|> ryan, that site is not up
[11:40] <ryan> i disagree!
[11:40] <ryan> heh
[11:41] <^^candy^^> cardador :cannot execute binary file
[11:41] <Matt|> ryan, could not be found
[11:41] <icu> How do I setup the kernel(the basic one that comes with ubuntu) source to compile modules for it?
[11:41] <cardador> ^^candy^^: what kind of file is it?
[11:41] <cardador> ^^candy^^: is it a cd image?
[11:42] <^^candy^^> cardador : i downloaded real player
[11:42] <cardador> ^^candy^^: try ./file.bin
[11:42] <Matt|> Be RiGhT bAcK
[11:43] <^^candy^^> cardador : nope nothing
[11:44] <x0563511> ... now that my internet connection is working... can i ask a question?
[11:44] <mxpxpod> does anyone here have the problem with synaptic where no packages show up in the main list at all?
[11:45] <Matt|> yay success
[11:45] <x0563511> how do i add multiverse to my repositories?
[11:45] <Matt|> it's pretty sad, but the phrase 1784 frames in 5.0 seconds = 356.800 FPS makes me pretty happy
[11:45] <icu> Matt|: What you trying to do?
[11:45] <x0563511> got GL working right?
[11:46] <icu> what kind of card?
[11:46] <Matt|> icu, it is working
[11:46] <cardador> hmm 3800 for me
[11:46] <Matt|> hence the "sad" thing
[11:46] <x0563511> how do i add multiverse to my repositories?
[11:46] <icu> over 4k for me
[11:46] <Matt|> bastards
[11:46] <^^candy^^> cardador: how can i open an .rpm ?
[11:46] <Matt|> ^^candy^^, you don't really want to
[11:46] <x0563511> oh come on! someone must know
[11:46] <icu> I'm trying to compile the latest fglrx module but it says that the kernel drm headers are incompatible, what's the with that?
[11:47] <cardador> ^^candy^^: in debian-like systems, you will want to open .deb
[11:47] <cardador> ^^candy^^: explain what you need
[11:47] <JDahl> icu, isnt the radeon driver with XFree86 4.3 good enough?
[11:47] <x0563511> :/... i GUESS ill use google
[11:47] <Matt|> so icu, cardador, what you are saying is 356 isn't very good huh
 it tells you on the ubuntu site
[11:48] <^^candy^^> to open a program that ends in .rpm (sorry i dont know a lot about linux)
[11:48] <x0563511> Matt... what command gave you the number? Ive got a geforce2, ill tell you what i get
[11:48] <^^candy^^> cardador :to open a program that ends in .rpm (sorry i dont know a lot about linux)
[11:48] <Matt|> ^^candy^^, those files are not really intended for ubuntu systems
[11:48] <Matt|> x0563511, glxgears
[11:48] <JDahl> ^^candy^^, rpm is the Redhat format, you can maybe use alien to install it, but you cannot just "open it"
[11:49] <stuNNed_> ^^candy^^, you can convert and rpm to a deb
[11:49] <x0563511> im getting around 1000
[11:49] <stuNNed_> and/an
[11:49] <cardador> ^^candy^^: what is exactly the program?
[11:49] <^^candy^^> Matt|:and where can i find real player?
[11:49] <Matt|> ^^candy^^, you can find a different file maybe for the same thing that you are looking for, which will be nicer with your system
[11:49] <Matt|> ^^candy^^, you can find it at http://www.real.com
[11:49] <^^candy^^> Matt|: ok
[11:49] <Matt|> ^^candy^^, but you don't need that either
[11:50] <cardador> brb
[11:50] <^^candy^^> Matt|: ok thanks
[11:50] <jdz`> ^^candy^^: sudo apt-get install realplayer
[11:50] <skullbocks> somebody knoes how to make xsupplicant work ?
[11:50] <JDahl> ^^candy^^, you're almost always better off using a tarball instead of .rpm - I am sure whatever you're downloading also comes as a .tar.gz
[11:50] <Matt|> ^^candy^^, if you follow the guide at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats, you can find out how to make totem work with realplayer files
[11:50] <Matt|> jdz`, that is not the realplayer package
[11:51] <GnuHippy> I am having a video overlay problem with Totem-xine and tv-time that I have been having with both warty and hoary with and without x.org
[11:51] <^^candy^^> ok
[11:51] <GnuHippy> my video overlay will sometimes will stop updating
[11:51] <Matt|> jdz`, it is a install package which is 2 versions out of date
[11:51] <icu> JDahl: The xfree driver is buggy and slow. Way faster using ati's fglrx driver of which they just released a new version today which works with doom 3.
[11:51] <jdz`> Matt|: Oh -- thanks.
[11:51] <Matt|> np
[11:51] <GnuHippy> and when I put something overtop of the video it will turn black and stay black
[11:51] <GnuHippy> or blue
[11:52] <Matt|> icu, perhaps I should install that driver too. I'm pretty sure 350 is about my max tho
[11:52] <x0563511> ... ok, what package is it that has all those proprietory decoders and junk?
[11:52] <Matt|> x0563511, w32codecs
[11:52] <Matt|> x0563511, same url i gave candy a few lines up
[11:52] <GnuHippy> has anybody else seen something like what I am talking about?
[11:53] <JDahl> icu, aha.. maybe I will try it out.. my IBM thinkpad 40p only gives 1300 fps glxgears under ubuntu (before I had 2000+ with unstables XFree86/radeon)
[11:53] <x0563511> ty matt
[11:53] <icu> Matt|: It works really well despite what people say. The one in the ubuntu repositories is a bit outdated and I can't get the module to compile using the kernel headers I got from the repositories. That's my only problem right now.
[11:53] <Matt|> think 350 is my max basically
[11:53] <Matt|> :(
[11:53] <icu> But how do I get modules to compile for the prebuilt ubuntu kernel?
[11:53] <^^candy^^> ok thanks
[11:53] <Matt|> icu, have you installed linux-headers etc
[11:54] <jdz`> *laughs* I get 42 FPS with glxgears on this laptop
[11:54] <Matt|> jdz`, kewl
[11:54] <JDahl> icu, cant you still use kernel-package under Ubuntu?
[11:54] <Matt|> i'm off
[11:54] <Matt|> later
[11:55] <icu> Matt|, JDahl: When I run make.sh I get "XFree86 drm includes at /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686/build/include/../drivers/char/drm do not fit this driver."
[11:55] <icu> "This driver is designed to only work with X4.1.0 or higher. You can match this by getting Linux kernel 2.4.8 or higher." which makes no sense at all
[11:55] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[11:56] <gen> matt|: i installed firefox 1.0 fine, but can only get it to work in my home directory, how do i move it over to replace the old .9.3
[11:56] <HrdwrBoB> using xcompmgr makes my system run like soggy poo
[11:57] <cardador> HrdwrBoB: whats your specs?
[11:57] <lemsx1_> HrdwrBoB, :-) which video card?
[11:57] <HrdwrBoB> though I have a suspicion it's something to do with the fact that this is an nvidia card, and that 0.1 is a terrible SIS card
[11:57] <x0563511> Matt|, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ is a dead link
[11:58] <lemsx1_> does metacity autodetects composite extension in X (so that xcompmgr is not needed) ?
[11:58] <gen> anyone, how do i move my mozilla firefox 1.0 dir from home to the .9.3 dir and where is it located
[11:59] <lemsx1_> gen, you can't do that
[11:59] <gen> why not lem?
[11:59] <unperson> I'm using my wireless card right now (Dell TrueMobile, uses the orinoco_cs driver), but "Network Settings" shows it as a normal ethernet card, so I can't, for example, change the ESSID.  Any idea why this is or how to make it see the thing as a wireless card?
[11:59] <lemsx1_> gen, because the package for firefox is not the same as the stuff you download from mozilla.org
[11:59] <uman> unperson: wireless-tools
[11:59] <lemsx1_> gen, they are compiled differently
[11:59] <gen> so all the firefox updates from now on will have to stay in my home dir?


 Noted. I think we have to edit auto-resize test case to include note about previously encrypted partitions then.
 For bug #1917062, I installed UM plymouth theme and switched to it. Issue still exists even with theme change.
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[11:19] <Maik> remind me to download the Pi version
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 Maik: Download the pi version.
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 LOL.... will do so right now. :D (re @popeydc: Maik: Download the pi version.)
 21.04 RC Desktop ISOs are out and ready for testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/423/builds
 Testing in Virtualbox atm
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 Does anyone here have an updated list of the requirements for each Ubuntu flavor / remix?
 I don't think they've changed since the last release for official flavors.
 as for 'remixes' you have to be more specific - some remixes aren't official ;)