[12:27] <littlegirl> Hopefully adding a swap file will fix it. (:
[12:27] <littlegirl> Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I already installed the binary driver for the NVIDIA card.
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: look at examples of route online, there will be lots, something like: route add net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> interface pptp0    i just made that up so its most likely very wrong.
[12:28] <mrec> hi, is there any way to lock a keyboard in X without disabling the screen?
[12:29] <littlegirl> One question about the instructions for the swap file: If I want to make the swap file 4 GB, do I just change 512Mb to 4Gb in the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:29] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, hmm but the problem is that both networks uses dhcp, so i cannot hardcode my ip in routes, because it might change next time
[12:31] <ruthl> littlegirl: no, it's the "count=..." that counts
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> mrec: could run: sudo modprobe -r usbhid     but it'll also disable mouse (assuming the keyboard is usb)
[12:31] <qdii> hey. I just tried to run the live netbook version of Ubuntu on an old laptop (which was running suprisingly good under Windows). But it's been loading GDM for 20 minutes now and ...
[12:31] <qdii> any idea why ?
[12:31] <littlegirl> ruthl: Thanks. (:
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: you can make a script to run to setup the routes
[12:32] <unomi> Hi, I am wondering how I can use kvm to boot an existing hdd
[12:32] <aeMaeth> qdii, did it meet the ram requirements?
[12:32] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Does this memory test run over and over again or something until I exit? What does "Pass complete, no errors, press Esc to exit" mean if it's continuing to run tests?
[12:33] <aeMaeth> Yerushalmi, it will do many types of tests
[12:33] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, hmm that sounds like a good idea. So using route add net command?
[12:33] <Yerushalmi> aeMaeth: Well, yes, it's already done a whole lot of tests, but it seems to be doing them again or something.
[12:33] <qdii> I'm gonna check that, I have no idea to be honest
[12:34] <qdii> I thought it would swap on the disk but .. yea there's no disk ofc
[12:34] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, like: route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw <IP_ADDRESS>    ?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Diverdude: you'll find samples online, just tweak the addresses and interface names as you reequire
[12:35] <mischd> hi men
[12:36] <mischd> somebody knows what distro of linux works properly with a hp pavilion dm 4? plz
[12:36] <Robinux> hey guys whats a good web browser i can use alongside FireFox
[12:37] <ruthl> Robinux: elinks
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> mischd: Try Ubuntu
[12:37] <Robinux> aha
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> !browser
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: ^ take your pick
[12:37] <Robinux> oh WaW ActionParsnip :D
[12:37] <Robinux> thanks man
[12:37] <jldesign> can i install ubuntu server 10.10 32 bit on dell powerEdge T610
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> jldesign: if the cpu is 64bit, then yes
[12:38] <aeMaeth> Robinux, iceweasel
[12:38] <Yerushalmi> aeMaeth: It has a 1 listed under Pass. Does that mean it's passed all of the tests the first time around? Is it going to stop testing at some point or does it keep repeating them all?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> jldesign: you can install 32bit and 64bit OS on a 64bit cpu, if its 32bit you can only run 32bit
[12:38] <jldesign> but i have probleme with the NIC
[12:38] <aeMaeth> Yerushalmi, this is for your ram?
[12:38] <Robinux> weird how iceweasel and elinks aren't on that list ubottu gave us
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: i personally use the chromium daily build from the daily ppa
[12:38] <jldesign> i can't get to the lan
[12:38] <Yerushalmi> aeMaeth: I'm running Memtest86+
 thanks I will try ubuntu 10.10 then
[12:38] <nebula> theme for 10.10 0 and Usplash Smooth 0.4 plzzz ??!?!?!?
[12:38] <Robinux> chromium :o
[12:39] <Robinux> thats a browser, chromium?
[12:39] <aeMaeth> Yerushalmi, afaik it has an end, there might be identifying marks during the test as to what phase it's in
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> nebula: can you rephrase and/or expand that please
[12:39] <LjL> Robinux: list is a little old, "list every browser" in #ubuntu-bots will give you more. but iceweasel is not available in ubuntu
[12:39] <Yerushalmi> aeMaeth: Ah, I see, okay. Thanks. I'll let it keep running then
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: sure, its the open source browser which chrome is built on
[12:39] <Robinux> oh, ok LjL thanks
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: chromium is a game, the package is chromium-browser ;)
[12:41] <Robinux> hmmmm.... i gotta also google about taking precautionary measures to make my browsing secure against credit/debit card thefts
[12:41] <aeMaeth> Robinux, like web of trust, no script and adblocker?
[12:41] <Robinux> i wanna use firefox for EVERYTHING and use a secondary browser to shop online thats why
[12:41] <Robinux> i'm on the hunt for one
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: one what?
[12:42] <aeMaeth> shopping browser
[12:42] <Robinux> lol one browser becides firefox
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: we gave you some options, go and explore :)
[12:42] <Robinux> you got it!
[12:42] <aeMaeth> !love | robinbowes
[12:42] <aeMaeth> oops
[12:43] <robinbowes> Why, thank you.
[12:43] <Robinux> i just remembered i have tried opera before and its almost as good as FireFox
[12:43] <mischd> firefox consumes too much resources
[12:43] <Robinux> so i'll go for that :)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mischd: too right, i hate firefox
[12:43] <Robinux> lool robinboews
[12:43] <Robinux> i'll also install chromium to see if ActionParsnip is right about it :P
[12:44] <Robinux> how do i install it ActionParsnip ? (chromium)
[12:44] <aeMaeth> opera has paste and go, also that thing where you can right click and then left click to go back a page, opposite for forward
[12:44] <ruthl> Robinux: i wouldn't recommend elinks for online shopping
[12:44] <aeMaeth> sudo aptitude install chromium-browser
[12:44] <Robinux> and opera?
[12:45] <jldesign> on Dell PowerEdgeT610 (Xeon CPU) install Ubuntu server 10.10 and i have Newtwork problem i get 'Destination Host Unreachable' any help Please
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !opera | Robinux
[12:45] <ohir> Robinux: using other browser for shopping is as much secure as your basic one, assuming both are patched timely.
[12:45] <qdii> seriously is there a place where beer is free or something ?
[12:46] <aeMaeth> Robinux, http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[12:46] <Robinux> holy crap its gonna need 60MB (lolz i'm on a 8GB vbox so i'm trying to conserv space)
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> !ot | qdii
[12:46] <GlitchMr> 11-11 13:04 ERROR  TaskList: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'E:\\ubuntu\\install\\xubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso'
[12:46] <Robinux> ohir, :O
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: try uninstalling apps you dont use (like vino / vinagre / openoffice / tomboy / evolution ) etc, and remove old unused kernels
[12:46] <sosaited> I have been trying to find some lyric fetching plugins for either Banshee or Exaile. But unless the artist name and song is exactly the official, it wont find the lyrics. Is there a way to fix this? Like if its 05 Akcent, it should realize its Akcent
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: what are you trying to achieve?
[12:47] <GlitchMr> Install Xubuntu through Wubi
[12:47] <GlitchMr> I will upload complete log
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: then you need to mount the iso, use something like magicdisk or daemontools
[12:48] <Robinux> ohir, i thought of using a seperate browser for shopping cuz i figured i dunno it would be safer because of the 'cookies' thing,.....
[12:48] <GlitchMr> I downloaded it through internet
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: did you MD5 test the ISO too?
[12:48] <ohir> Robinux: using vm os instance for lookin at bad places is good measure though.
[12:48] <nomicos1> Hi. Can you help me? Whenever Totem streaming audio/video, and I click on random place, system bugging. Help! Ubuntu is last normal distro FOR HUMAN, as for me, of course.
[12:48] <GlitchMr> http://pastebin.com/jhtGucki
[12:49] <ohir> Robinux: yes, it may give you more privacy. Not security per se
[12:49] <Robinux> ohir: i mean look, i read this article that a website can do things to the cookies you get or whatever, and they can see what pages you've visited so i thought if that's possible they could prolly fetch my card information
[12:49] <GlitchMr> It had previous installation, but I removed it
[12:49] <Robinux> which is why i wanna use one for amazon, ebay... etc
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: you can use incognito mode and it will help, depends how extensive your tinfoil hat collection is
[12:50] <aa__> siema
[12:50] <ohir> Robinux: card information usually is stolen from vendors, not from linux host.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: did you test the ISO?
[12:50] <GlitchMr> 11-11 11:58 DEBUG  CommonBackend: Could not find any ISO or CD, downloading one now
[12:50] <GlitchMr> I don't have ISO
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> I thought wubi.exe (which you can download) can see/access the iso file. No need to use damontools or stuff like that,.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> If you have the iso allready >:)
[12:51] <zamba> how do i roll out gconf2 configuration when preseeding a computer?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> I dont reccomend using WUBI at all however.
[12:51] <ohir> Robinux: on user box under most popular OS it usually get stolen by installing trojan
[12:51] <Robinux> ohir: vendors = ?
[12:51] <ohir> Robinux: though its not topic for this #
[12:51] <ohir> !ot | Robinux
[12:51] <Robinux> lol sorry ohir ok
[12:51] <GlitchMr> http://pastebin.com/jhtGucki
[12:51] <GlitchMr> log contains what happened
[12:51] <aHardyX> Umm.......on booting I am getting this error: "init not found" What should I do?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: ok, did you MD5 test the wubi file? are you running the app as an admin?
[12:52] <GlitchMr> It asked me through UAC, so yes
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: i recommend you download the ISO yourself and MD5 test it, then mount the file using magicdick / daemontools. You can then install wubi from the CD
[12:54] <GlitchMr> 436 MB (bajtów: 457 703 424)
[12:54] <GlitchMr> ok... it doesn't seem to be correct
[12:54] <GlitchMr> It shouldn't be 436 MB, I think so
[12:54] <aHardyX> I tried mountting the partition thru live cd but it does not respond
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: it should be 700Mb ish, its a bad image
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: if you do it manually so YOU know it's good, you will get fewer issues
[12:55] <Robinux> waw ActionParsnip thanks for that cmd, i now have the most update version of chromium browser :)
[12:55] <Robinux> it first installed 7.0 now i have 9.0 :o
[12:55] <ohir> Robinux: so move there if you wanna discuss your 'be secure' plan
[12:55] <Robinux> damn you're fast ohir
[12:56] <Robinux> 'be secure in 'ubuntu''
[12:56] <Robinux> :P
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: its badass and chews less ram than irefox
[12:57] <GlitchMr> What CD should I use for wubi - desktop or alternate?
[12:57] <Robinux> oh thats good cuz firefox takes like 40% of the 400MB ram i dedicated to my vbox
[12:57] <Robinux> sometimes more
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> GlitchMr: desktop
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: it also precaches DNS so browsing is a littel accellerated
[12:59] <Robinux> ActionParsnip, you mean chormium, ....nice!
[12:59] <GlitchMr> lol, the list of users took 11 pages in irssi...
[12:59] <GlitchMr> It's very big channel
[12:59] <Robinux> the biggest in the world :)
[13:00] <IcedEarth> #irssi
[13:00] <IcedEarth> whoops
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: any better for you?
[13:01] <Robinux> ActionParsnip, i just started my first session of chromium seeming alright, thanks
[13:02] <Robinux> it wants me to choose search engine i think i'll go for no other than GooGle
[13:03] <Vogg> hello : can any1 help me with a simple installation question - thanks
[13:03] <Hazamonzo> hmm, i can't seem to find the name of the sun java package on 10.10 ....
[13:04] <sagaci> Vogg: what's the problem
[13:04] <aHardyX> please can someone help me  :(
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Hazamonzo:  its int eh partners repository
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> !java | Hazamonzo
[13:04] <sagaci> !ask aHardyX
[13:05] <Vogg> sagaci, i want to install 10.10 on a pc which already has windows xp installed on it - i have a spare partition of 12GB to install to
[13:05] <aHardyX> I am not able to boot I am getting this error: "init not found". This happened after a power failure
[13:06] <Vogg> sagaci, i need to know which boot loader to select during installation
[13:06] <sagaci> Vogg: have you only got one hard drive
[13:06] <Puddel> N00b question; after clean install of Netbook 10.10 from USB pen, I only get a flashing cursor after restart.. What did I do wrong? (IBM X41)
[13:07] <Hazamonzo> Thanks Dr_Willis
[13:07] <Vogg> the choices are Dev/sda ATA generic drive or Dev\sda1 Windows XP (Loader)
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> aHardyX:  i would suggest booting with a live cd and fscking the filesystems to verify they are 'good' and hopefully fix any errors.
[13:07] <Vogg> yes i only have 1 hard drive
[13:07] <sagaci> aHardyX: use a live cd or usb to backup your data first
[13:07] <sagaci> Vogg: well it should be by default, something like /dev/sda
[13:08] <sagaci> Vogg: sorry, didn't see your previous post, install it to the /dev/sda ata one
[13:08] <dingurt> Puddel:  so no grub then?
[13:08] <sagaci> Vogg: not the Windows XP one
[13:09] <Puddel> dingurt: grub?
[13:09] <adrelino> does anyone now how I can dualboot macosx and ubuntu on my hackintosh-pc, e.g. which file do i need to edit for grub2 and which tools to run ... the actual entry should be similar to windows (chainload)
[13:09] <Vogg> sagaci, ok .. thanks
[13:10] <dingurt> Puddel:  GRUB is how linux boots.
[13:10] <dingurt> Puddel:  the first thing you should see after the POST is the GRUB bootloader
[13:10] <Puddel> dingurt: ah - no, nothing after the ibm start screen, just flashing cursor
[13:10] <dingurt> Puddel:  if not, then the bootloader isn't loading
[13:11] <Puddel> dingurt: I would suspect that - but shouldnt that be installed and configured by the installer?
[13:11] <dingurt> Puddel:  you would think so, but things happen... I would get to a console prompt and run grub-install
[13:12] <dingurt> Puddel:  but do a little research on the command
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | adrelino
[13:12] <ixik> Hey, suddenly my ubuntu 10.04 started to map the keys of 'k' as 2 and so on...
[13:12] <ixik> how can i change it back to the normal keyboard mapping
[13:12] <ixik> ?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> ixik:  if its a laptop. there  may be some fn key thing. you might have the numpad feature enabled.
[13:12] <amarcolino> how do I identify a disk partition by its UUID?
[13:12] <bremby> hi. when I select some mp3s in nautilus and press return to open them in totem, the playlist is unsorted. in previous versions of ubuntu it was always sorted to their filename. any way to change it back?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> !uuid | amarcolino
[13:13] <sagaci> amarcolino: sudo blkid
[13:13] <ixik> Dr_Willis: so why does it happen just when i login to gnome?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> ixik:  no idea.  IS this a laptop?
[13:13] <B-r00t> ixik: try setxkbmap -layout us -model pc105
[13:13] <ixik> yes it is laptop
[13:13] <Puddel> dingurt: thanks! it should be possible to do this while running ubuntu from the usb, right?
[13:14] <ixik> and i think i DID play with fn keys
[13:14] <ixik> ok guys, thanks
[13:14] <ixik> playing again wtih the fn keys did solve it
[13:14] <ixik> :-)
[13:15] <dingurt> Puddel:  yep :D
[13:15] <Puddel> dingurt: thanks again, will try that ;)
[13:17] <amarcolino> thanks Dr_Willis & sagaci, before I become silent again is it more secure using the disk UUID or the partition it belongs to as I have been having an issue that I ahve to atempt to restart my system a couple of time before it boots and the last message printed is ureadhead main process terminated with status 5. Google threads tells me that the problem is not with ureadhead but might be something in my fstab and I suspect it's the bo
[13:18] <sagaci> amarcolino: uuid is much more reliable
[13:18] <bremby> sagaci: why?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> bremby: UUIDs don't change as new drives are added, sda sdb etc will
[13:20] <aHardyX> sagaci: I am not able to mount my partition. It says the opration is still pending
[13:20] <sagaci> what ActionParsnip said
[13:20] <bremby> sda doesn't change if you don't change your partition table
[13:20] <adrelino> wow thats cool didnt have to customize anything... just a simle sudo update-grub2 did the trick for adding macosx
[13:20] <adrelino> thanks guys
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> bremby: if you change your drive to a different controller or from primary master to primary slave then add another drive as primary master, it will
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> amarcolino:  'secure' dosent really fit into it..  UUID's dont normally cahnge. thats the main reason to use them
[13:20] <bremby> if you're on a common computer with one harddrive
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> amarcolino:  i see that uahead message on all my machines. they all seem to be working fine.
[13:21] <bremby> ActionParsnip: yeah, I do that all the time
[13:21] <Puddel> dingurt: seems like grub2 is installe
[13:21] <sagaci> aHardyX: err, you do have backups right?
[13:21] <aHardyX> umm...........yes on my external drive. NTFS
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> bremby: it takes away the risk if you ever do
[13:22] <bremby> ActionParsnip: so it's just to make things dummy-proof
[13:22] <Gargoyle> anyone know a sensible file descriptor "ulimit" for a small intranet / developer team using apache ?
[13:23] <bremby> ActionParsnip: don't worry, I just wanted to know if sagaci knows what's he talking about
[13:23] <schelcj> was wondering if there is some means extending nautilus to allow certain predefined actions to happen when say you enter a directory
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> bremby: it just covers bases so if you start moving disks, you'll get no issues
[13:23] <progre55> hi guys. I'm trying to dual-monitor my laptop with a 24" monitor on ubuntu 10.10 with ATI 5650 graphics, but the max resolution of the 24" screen is 1280x1024 in the catalyst control center. Any suggestions, please?
[13:23] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: It have been a while since I was in this channel. Do you use renameutils?
[13:23]  * G69 Boa tarde
[13:24] <Yerushalmi> Are you guys sure that Memtest actually ends? It seems to complete all the tests and then just do them again. "Pass" up top has reached 100% twice now and it went back to performing Test #1 again.
[13:24] <aHardyX> sagaci: so I have backups so should I reinstall ubuntu?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: no, sorry
[13:24] <bremby> Yerushalmi: no it doesn't end
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: it will do a full test then restart again
[13:24] <sagaci> aHardyX: well it may be easier and save time than to try to troubleshoot and recover data
[13:24] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: Ah. I'm trying to remember a nifty command that allows me to rename lot of things at once. Thought it was you or the other nickname I can't remember.
[13:24] <Yerushalmi> So I'm still waiting around here for nothing? :) I'll hit escape then and go on to fsck. For the record, no errors.
[13:24] <bremby> Yerushalmi: after hitting 100% for the first time, you can reboot
[13:25] <Yerushalmi> Now, how do I fsck my drive?
[13:25] <plitter> is there a way to check if my sound card is supported?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  you can mem test things for days on end :)
[13:25] <aHardyX> sagaci: hmm............the only thing is that I will have to download every software again!
[13:25] <jrib> plitter: trying a live cd is probably the easiest way
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: i don't rename that much tbh
[13:25] <sagaci> aHardyX: have fast internet?
[13:26] <bremby> does anyone know, how does totem sort its playlist?
[13:26] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: you said to use a liveUSB. I have a second Ubuntu installation on a second drive, can I just load that up instead?
[13:26] <aHardyX> sagaci: nope thats the problem!
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: that'll do it, as long as the partition is unmounted, you can check it
[13:26] <gnu|2> hey
[13:27] <sagaci> well ah, I don't have the time nor the expertise to advise in repairing
[13:27] <amarcolino> Dr_Willis, sagaci:  no worries that completely removes my assumption, guess need to do more reading to identify why it fails to boot
[13:27] <gnu|2> ubuntu is asking to authenticate while using administrative tasks and there is no provision to enter password, i mean password area is not there
[13:28] <phaedral> looking for a workspace manager that autoscrolls between rather than having to click dock or use keyboard
[13:28] <aHardyX> sagaci: is there any other way to repair it other than reinstalling?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> phaedral: i think if you hold ALT+CTRL and use cursor left/right it switches
[13:28] <jrib> phaedral: autoscrolls between what?
[13:29] <phaedral> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> jrib: workspaces
[13:29] <dustin_> phaedral install from synaptic package manager compisconfig
[13:29] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: So what do I type into terminal exactly?
[13:29] <phaedral> dustin_: thanks, will look at that!
[13:29] <jrib> phaedral: compiz could do this at some point.  It's probably some setting you can still configure.  Ask #compiz if no one knows here
[13:29] <phaedral> used to have it in, what, linuxppc-1999 using afterstep...
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: sudo fsck -a /dev/partitionname
[13:30] <dustin_> phaedral you can enable desktop cube or wall from there
[13:30] <phaedral> awesome; thanks
[13:30] <gnu|2> ubuntu is asking to authenticate while using administrative tasks and there is no provision to enter password, i mean password area is not there ....
[13:30] <gnu|2> anybody who knows ... .. ubuntu is asking to authenticate while using administrative tasks and there is no provision to enter password, i mean password area is not there
[13:30] <gnu|2> hey
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> gnu|2: try: gksudo command-you-want-to-run
[13:31] <dustin_> gnu|2 or restart X-sesion
[13:31] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Thanks. Running now.
[13:31] <Milossh> hey. Which ubuntu version would you guys recommend for slow notebook? Like, 1.6GHZ intel atom, 2gb ddr2 ram, integraded graphic
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: thats not slow at all
[13:31] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem (etc)
[13:31] <gnu|2> hey
[13:31] <Yerushalmi> Which it isn't, it's ext4.
[13:32] <jrib> Milossh: 10.04 or 10.10 should both run fine
[13:32] <dustin_> milossh as long as you use a 32 bit any will run great on it
[13:32] <Xeross> superblock, sounds raidish
[13:32] <Funcan> Hi. Anybody got any pointers for getting grub to work when installing to a kvm virtual machine? grub-install is failing
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: i have ran a full gnome desktop with full compiz no less than that
[13:32] <plitter> jrib: how do you find that out with the live cd?
[13:32] <jrib> plitter: see if you can play sound after booting the live cd
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: if you want to maximize resources for apps then use Lubuntu or XUbuntu
[13:32] <Milossh> thanks, but I really harras my desktop, and will buy a netbook as I need it for work
[13:33] <Milossh> so, I'd really need my apps to run smoothly
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: Lubuntu and XUbuntu use LXDE and XFCE respectively and will be light
[13:33] <Milossh> so, say firefox, thunderbird, pidgin, skype, 2-3 terminal tabs always on
[13:33] <dustin_> milossh if you find a full distro to be a little slow on it you can always use "ubuntu netbook remiox"
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: i'd think about a lighter browser
[13:33] <dustin_> *remix*
[13:33] <Milossh> ActionParsnip: I work for mozilla, thanks :)
[13:34] <Milossh> dusin_: will check that now, thaks
[13:34] <Milossh> *thanks
[13:34] <dustin_> milossh lol you would have killed me for reccomending seamonkey (lighter respin on firefox)
[13:34] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: So what do I do instead?
[13:35] <gnu|2> ubuntu is asking autthentication while using administrative tasks and there is no provision to ente the password
[13:35] <gnu|2> any knows y?/
[13:35] <dustin_> gnu|2 are you running a live disk or full install?
[13:35] <plitter> jrib: i already did that, the thing is i am trying to see if i can use a special option or something so i can make my mic start working
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: Kazenchaze isa lighter version of the browser, less bloated
[13:35] <Milossh> dustin_: no I wouldn't, I like seamonkey project, and personally support it
[13:35] <gnu|2> full install
[13:35] <Milossh> what seamonkey is now, that sometime was mozilla suite ;)
[13:35] <jrib> plitter: just ask your real question
[13:35] <harmus> dustin: seamonkey lighter?
[13:36] <dustin_> milossh whenever I hit a bug in firefox I use seamonkey to get around it
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: sounds like the partition is unhealthy, I am not sure here, websearch the error, see what you find
[13:36] <Milossh> ActionParsnip: I assume you use ie4lin?
[13:36] <Milossh> :)
[13:36] <gnu|2> i cant install anything using software center
[13:36] <jrib> plitter: anyway, run pavucontrol and make sure the mic isn't muted
[13:36] <gnu|2> its asking authentication
[13:36] <Milossh> dustin_: I must say I'm not too proud with our linux builds
[13:36] <dustin_> milossh where do you go to report firefox errors?
[13:36] <Milossh> :/
[13:36] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: So the fact that it's complaining that it's not ext2 doesn't matter? It should work on ext4 anyway?
[13:36] <Milossh> dustin_: bugzilla.mozilla.org
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> gnu|2:  are you runnin it as your initial user? or some other user? try installing via apt-get perhaps?
[13:37] <gnu|2> dustin ... u know?
[13:37] <dustin_> ty
[13:37] <pinoyoragon> In 10.10, When I change my resolution to 1440x900 the top and bottom panels are gone, but i appears when i change it back to 1024x768. Why is that?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: no, kazehakase. I know what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazehakase
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: its firefox with less bloat, so its faster and slicker
[13:37] <gnu|2> dusting: that i know .. bt i cant access any administrative tasks
[13:37] <phaedral> Am I going to have to log out and log in to get simple-cssm changes to take effect?
[13:37] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: It says "If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device>.
[13:37] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Should I try that?
[13:37] <plitter> jrib: my mic is not working, but my speakers work. Just want to check if my sound card is supported by alsa and if i can maybe put on some extra option in modprobe.conf to see if it helps
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: sure, if thats what it says
[13:38] <plitter> jrib: according to alsamixer nothing is muted
[13:38] <gnu|2> dustin: i cant acess any administrative tasks
[13:38] <Milossh> ActionParsnip: firefox is not a bloatware
[13:38] <plitter> jrib: except the beep:P
[13:38] <phaedral> Milossh: well, maybe next to Lynx ;)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: oh it is, get a little flash in it and it baloons up to in excess of 1Gb ram
[13:38] <Milossh> ActionParsnip: it does not
[13:38] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: "e2fsck: No medium found while trying to open /dev/sdb"
[13:38] <phaedral> ActionParsnip: jokes aside, is that a ff problem or flash problem?
[13:39] <gnu|2> dustin : if iam trying to do somehting ... the authentication window comes and shakes and there is no provision to enter password
[13:39] <harmus> Milossh: well, firefox get slower every release, been using it since the beginning but actually starting to like chromium more now because of the speed and using less memory on ubuntu
[13:39] <Milossh> I always have 20+ tabs open and newer more than 300mb of ram taken by fx
[13:39] <sagaci> chromium much better
[13:39] <TheAnachron> hello
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> phaedral: combination, chromium runs using a fraction of the ram on the same site
[13:39] <sagaci> doesn't have as many addos though
[13:39] <Milossh> harmus: have you checked latest beta?
[13:39] <procscsi> Anyone managed to use an Emulex HBA under Ubuntu server?
[13:39] <phaedral> fair enough
[13:39] <Yerushalmi> *sigh* And here I thought it would be fine running my hard drive from an SD card.
[13:39] <Milossh> b7, that is
[13:39] <sagaci> although I only use adblock and youtube dowloader
[13:40] <dustin_> gnu|2 are you using a gnome or kde desktop?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: I dropped firefox years back, i use it to get the chromium ppa and it takes an age
[13:40] <phaedral> Yerushalmi: I did that for a while with my netbook; it works, but there's no denying it's slower that way
[13:40] <Milossh> ActionParsnip: that's only you
[13:40] <sagaci> Yerushalmi: do a fdisk -l to see what's aboout
[13:40] <gnu|2> dustin: gnome desktop ,... bt recently installe kde
[13:40] <phaedral> was an 8gb sd card with ubuntu 9 on it
[13:40] <harmus> that's right, chromium doesn't have nice developer tools like Yslow and senseo (as far as i know)
[13:40] <Milossh> 25% og the internet inhabitants don't think the same way you do
[13:40] <Yerushalmi> sagaci: Nothing happens.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: plus all this about:config hacking users need to do to make it usable, its beyond poor
[13:41] <sagaci> Yerushalmi: do a sudo fdisk -l to see what's aboout
[13:41] <Milossh> ActionParsnip: sorry mate, but you're talking nonsense now
[13:41] <Yerushalmi> sagaci: Ah, okay
[13:41] <aj_> i installed linux headers on ubuntu 10.10 x64 , still i am not able to install vmware 7.1.2
[13:41] <Yerushalmi> phaedral: I don't have a problem with speed, I have a problem with the disk apparently in the stages of progressive suicide :p
[13:41] <Milossh> a lot of things are customizable via edit>options
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: microsoft still has majority share ni OS, does that make windows better than Linux??
[13:41] <dustin_> gnu|2 you may be having an issue with the two desktops fighting over privileges....
[13:41] <harmus> Milossh: that's because they don't know about browsers, most ppl use IE and even a lot still use IE6, that doesnt mean they would eally like IE6 more if they knew all about it
[13:41] <Yerushalmi> sagaci: I need to remount it first, don't I? :)
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: www.ubuntugeek.com/speed-up-firefox-web-browser.html - Cached - Similar
[13:42] <Milossh> ActionParsnip: windows has by far better kernel, crapware is making it look bad
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: read the comments at the bottom
[13:42] <sagaci> Yerushalmi: no
[13:42] <aj_> anyone please guide me, i am new to linux
[13:42] <Yerushalmi> sagaci: Because sdb didn't show up at all under devices
[13:42] <Milossh> harmus: that is true for ie, but a one that was able to find and install firefox, probably knows that there are other browsers
[13:43] <TheAnachron> Guys?
[13:43] <Yerushalmi> sagaci: It only gave me sda1 and sda2, which is my backup on-the-hard-drive installation so I don't need to carry around a liveUSB, and my swap drive, respectively
[13:43] <Milossh> firefox doesn't come bundled with windows or anything
[13:43] <sagaci> Yerushalmi: ah ok, look it's after midnight here so you'll hve to look for help elsewhere
[13:43] <harmus> milossh: don't know about that, it took firefox a long time to get a market share
[13:43] <Yerushalmi> sagaci: Hehe, okay, no worries :)
[13:44] <Milossh> harmus: huh? do you know that in the past a lot of ppl working on firefox did it from scratch and volunteerly
[13:44] <Milossh> ?
[13:44] <Yerushalmi> sagaci: You solved my problem, though
[13:44] <Yerushalmi> I'm an idiot, I was fsck-ing sdb and not sdb1
[13:44] <dustin_> well I can safely say that I prefer firefox over winblows internet exploder!
[13:44] <Milossh> harmus: also, do you know that firefox broke the ice?
[13:44] <Milossh> now it's everything easier
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: it uses a lot of the netscape code in the past
[13:44] <Milossh> *everything is
[13:45] <Milossh> ActionParsnip: now? nope
[13:45] <harmus> milossh: I know that, i've been following it since the beginning, ppl like me told other folks about it and the population grew slowly
[13:45] <Yerushalmi> .... which doesn't seem to have made a difference. sdb1 apparently only exists when the drive is mounted, and gets erased from /dev/ otherwise.
[13:45] <harmus> milossh: but now things are a little different
[13:45] <Milossh> harmus: and that's why it took so much time
[13:45] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: What am I doing wrong?
[13:45]  * Yerushalmi really feels lost here :(
[13:45] <Milossh> yeah, and we're gaining nice share piece now
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: sure, but it depends how you mean "in the past"
[13:45] <harmus> milossh: it will take chromium a long time to
[13:46] <Milossh> harmus: I personally don't think chromium will ever replace firefox
[13:46] <dustin_> yerushalmi you could always reboot your computer multiple times and ubuntu will do an auto fsck once every 10-20 boots
[13:46] <TheAnachron> Guys is anybody here having an information about how Unity Desktop will be like?
[13:46] <Milossh> but that's mostly because I know a lot of things that you don't, as I'm always in the loop, as a contributor
[13:46] <Yerushalmi> dustin_: I've never seen it do that before...
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: no browser wil replace any, users can choose as they wish. LUbuntu uses chromium as default browser
[13:46] <harmus> milossh: as a contributor it's best to believe in your product, keep it that way
[13:47] <Pici> !ot
[13:47] <Milossh> harmus: I'm not biased, if that's what you're pointing at
[13:47] <pinoyoragon> In 10.10, When I change my resolution to 1440x900 the top and bottom panels are gone, but i appears when i change it back to 1024x768. Why is that? i have an intel i915GM on Dell inspiron 640m
[13:47] <harmus> milossh: but chromium will surely grow, i dont care if it gets bigger or not, all i want is IE to die
[13:47] <dustin_> Yerusalmi I got aggraveted with it because when I was doing a lot of system reconfigurations I was rebooting 5 times a day
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Milossh: being in the loop is moot, users see performance on the desktop and in every case I have advised chromium the user has seen a drastic improvement
[13:47] <red2kic> pinoyoragon: Try resetting your panels in 1440x900?
[13:47] <red2kic> !resetpanels | pinoyoragon
[13:47] <TheAnachron> Hey guys
[13:48] <harmus> theanachron: there's a lot to find on google
[13:48] <pinoyoragon> red2kic, ubottu: ok i'll try
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> hi TheAnachron
[13:48] <TheAnachron> harmus I have looked enough in google.
[13:49] <pinoyoragon> red2kic, ubottu: do i have to do this everytime i change resolution?
[13:50] <harmus> milossh: i didnt see that remark, i was not trying to say you're biased
[13:50] <strk> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/wireless_tools.30.pre9.tar.gz <-- is this the version in 10.10LTS ?
[13:50] <strk> a beta ?
[13:51] <pinoyoragon> red2kic, ubottu: btw the icons on my desktop just flickered then no panels appeared...
[13:51] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to fsck sdb1, but I'm not allowed to do it while it's mounted because of, quote, severe filesystem damage - but I can't seem to unmount it without sdb1 disappearing from the dev folder. Am I doing something wrong here?
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[13:51] <FloodBot4> a10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[13:51] <kryl> hi
[13:51] <DJones> a10: Please don't do that
[13:51] <red2kic> pinoyoragon: Well, does it work?
[13:52] <red2kic> pinoyoragon: When I plug in external monitor to the laptop or second monitor, panels (and positions) often can be found shuffled around.
[13:52] <Pici> strk: 10.10 is not an LTS.  And yes, the version for wireless-tools is '30~pre9-3ubuntu4' in 10.10.
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  You may want to use a live cd. to fsck your filesystms. that way they are all unmounted
[13:52] <kryl> since many month I have a problem with ubuntu and backlight with thinkpad (lenovo) t510i ! Does anybody can help me to fix that please ? I can't use functions keys, and no software to fix the backlight too.
[13:52] <strk> oh
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: sounds bad, you may want to use dd to take an image of the whole disk, just in case, you can then use testdisk (or maybe gparted) to define the partitions again, but don't format
[13:53] <kronos003> what is the min amount of ram and hd required for the Bare VM install of 10.04LTS with SSH APT and nothing else?
[13:53] <strk> Pici: ah, I meant 10.04 :)
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> red2kic:  the panel likes to default to the monitor thats the 'primary display' fromw hat ive seen. You can drag the panels back and forth - alt-click on panel and drag it to where you want
[13:53] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Wait, that's not supposed to happen? (What's dd?)
[13:53] <pinoyoragon> red2kic: that's it... i'm using an external monitor also and it doesn't appear even if i tried using those commands
[13:53] <Pici> strk: Same version in 10.04 :)
[13:53] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: Using a different installation of Ubuntu on a different drive doesn't help?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  IF the fulesystem is unmounted -  You can do that.
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:   so sudo umount /media/whatever or wherver its at.
[13:54] <strk> Pici: eh... which is bogus. I get garbage essid with that. Only way to connect is logging into GNOME !?!?
[13:54] <red2kic> pinoyoragon: You said 24" monitor?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: its a bit by bit copying tool
[13:54] <strk> http://strk.keybit.net/tmp/GARBAGE_ESSID_BUG <---
[13:54] <red2kic> pinoyoragon: Well, either way. I wonder if your laptop's graphic card is powerful enough to manage both displays?
[13:54] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: Aha! Thanks.
[13:55] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I guess I just wasn't unmounting it correctly. I literally have no idea what I'm doing.
[13:55] <pinoyoragon> red2kic: I'll try the suggestion of Dr_Willis to make it the default display... will be back...
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> !mount | Yerushalmi
[13:55] <Yerushalmi> ...fsck shouldn't take less than a second to run,s hould it?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  dont access teh disk befor trying the fsck. :) the gui auto-mounts it on first access most likely
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  depekds on the FS and the damage.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> kryl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=678304   see if those files / folders exist. this forum page may help
[13:56] <figure002> hello. i'd like to user parts of the text on http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.1/developers/HACKING.html for my own documentation. how do i finf out if the is allowed?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: do you have backups?
[13:56] <Yerushalmi> "/dev/sdb1: clean, 223830/995520 files, 1375824/3976079 blocks"
[13:56] <Yerushalmi> Appeared almost instantaneously.
[13:56] <kryl> ActionParsnip, I'm looking the page
[13:56] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: No, but I can make them easily.
[13:56] <figure002> nvermind, i should ask this question in #bzr
[13:57] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: Is that a normal outcome? I mean, it's a 16gb partition even though I'm using very little of it, should it really finish in less than a second?
[13:58] <kronos003> what is the min amount of ram and hd required for the Bare VM install of ubuntu 10.04LTS with SSH APT and nothing else? (ssh base socks proxy so i can use ip based trffic prioritization against skype)
[13:58] <erUSUL> figure002: at the bottom ist says copyright Canonical you will have to ask them. no license is specified
[13:58] <strk> can you can anyone see a reason why I can't handle to associate my wireless card using iwconfig ?
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  its checking the Journal if its ext3/4 i imagine.. Theres proberly some options to do a more in depth fsck.. but  ive never needed to do that.
[13:58] <strk> works fine when done by network manager
[13:59] <echo310infantry> hello all
[13:59] <harmus> hi echo
[13:59] <echo310infantry> any good channel to troubleshoot desktop nova?
[13:59] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: I see. Just so you have the background, I have problems with not being able to run video, which led to the discovery that for some reason I don't have the permissions I'm supposed to, which led to the conclusion that there might be a problem with the drive.
[14:00] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: So now I'm completely lost and have no idea where to go from here.
[14:00] <echo310infantry> i think it because my second hhd does not mount quick enough
[14:00] <erUSUL> strk: wpa ?
[14:00] <pinoyoragon> red2kic, Dr_Willis: We made it! I switched off the monitor of laptop in gnome-control-center and the panels appeared! Thanks guys!
[14:01] <red2kic> pinoyoragon: Nice. :o
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: i'd reinstall after wiping the drive, then restore data from backups. You will then have a stable file system
[14:02] <figure002> erUSUL: ok, thanks i'll try to contact them. does Canonical have a ICR channel btw?
[14:02] <Yerushalmi> YADR. Yet Another Damned Reinstallation :p
[14:02] <echo310infantry> how do i auto mount a hdd at startup?
[14:03] <strk> erUSUL: no key
[14:03] <erUSUL> figure002: this may apply to your case http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[14:03] <strk> Encryption key:off...
[14:03] <figure002> erUSUL: thanks
[14:03] <erUSUL> strk: then should work; what commands are you using? in theory. « sudo iwconfig wlano essid "MYESSID" && sudo dhclient wlan0 »
[14:04] <erUSUL> strk: then should work; what commands are you using? in theory. « sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "MYESSID" && sudo dhclient wlan0 »
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[14:04] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: Basically, anytime I run vlc, mplayer, or totem, I get a segfault, even if I'm opening it without opening a file or just using --help. When prefixing the command with gksudo, none of them give segfaults, but vlc and mplayer simply don't open, while totem works fine. When opening them from a separate, temporary account, totem also works, but the other two still give segfaults.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[14:05] <rigved> i have found this good website which has screencasts for new users to Ubuntu - ucasts.tv - erUSUL and ActionParsnip are shown in action on some of the screencasts (on irc and launchpad)!!!
[14:06] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: So where is this dd? How do I get it?
[14:06] <strk> erUSUL: see http://strk.keybit.net/tmp/GARBAGE_ESSID_BUG <---
[14:06] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I assume doing select all, copy-paste won't work :p
[14:06] <sloop> i'm trying to figure out why my gmail fonts look bad in firefox/ubuntu compared to windows.  is anyone familar with this?  have tried multiple "font fix" tutorials for ubuntu
[14:07] <slidinghorn> ubottu, tell Yerushalmi about dd
[14:07] <harmus> Yerushalmi, sudo apt-get install ddrescue
[14:07] <slidinghorn> well that didn't work as planned.....lol
[14:07] <jsec> !dd | slidinghorn, Yerushalmi
[14:07] <jsec> haha guess there's no !dd command either *shrugs*
[14:07] <rigved> !brain | slidinghorn
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: its ni a standard install
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: you wil need a storage of greater size than the disk to store the image
[14:08] <NocturnalGuy> ok so umm I have a odd request....
[14:08] <harmus> Yerushalmi, dd if=<source> of=<target>
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: i recommend backup/clean install/restore
[14:08] <gdoteof> Hi, I am trying to add the ubuntuzilla PPA, I added deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all main      to my sources.list
[14:09] <gdoteof> when i run apt-get update i get: W: Failed to fetch http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt/dists/all/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?
[14:10] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: It's not in my current installation, but I see the package listed in Ubuntu Software Center.
[14:10] <Yerushalmi> I'll have to do it later because that computer's not hooked up to the internet right now, but thanks
[14:10] <gdoteof> Either that I need a recommendation for a new mail client.  Evolution does not play nicely with tiling window managers
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> gdoteof: delete the line, here are 2 commands to add the ppa: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/40
[14:10] <aurilliance> Is there *any* way to run IE7/8/9 without a VM or dual boot on ubuntu? Please don't give me that ies4linux rubbish - IE6 is outdated.
[14:11] <erUSUL> aurilliance: see in appdb what the wine support for them is
[14:11] <erUSUL> !appdb | aurilliance
[14:13] <harmus> ubuntuzilla only has i386 as far as i can quickly see
[14:13] <gdoteof> ActionParsnip just left the room right after he told me to do exactly what I already did
[14:13] <gdoteof> oo
[14:13] <Derp_> Hi guys. I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a USB drive and just can't seem to get it going. I downloaded 10.10 (desktop version) on my Windows PC and used the USB-creator to install it to my drive. However, after changing the boot sequence I keep getting it hanged at a line that begins with Syslinux ... any ideas?
[14:13] <gdoteof> well
[14:14] <Braber01> um tcpdump is a packet sniffer right?
[14:14] <AnxiousNut> aurilliance, yes, IE 8, here: http://is.gd/gW3W5
[14:14] <harmus> gdoteof, 10.10 has the newest thunderbird and firefox, have you tried installing the packages from 10.10 directy in your version of ubuntu?
[14:15] <harmus> gdoteof, or do you need the update functionality?
[14:15] <gdoteof> harmus: well balls then.  no.. I haven't.   I was hoping to keep everything managed by aptitude
[14:15] <Goodgame> hello
[14:15] <Goodgame> my mouse has at least 3 buttons non-used, how can I configure it?
[14:15] <realcooluser> Derp_: I think you can pass boot options, try noacpi.  Perhaps there is something that your system doesn't like.
[14:15] <gdoteof> harmus: all i really need/want is to try the latest thunderbird.  i need a new mail client.. evolution doesn't play along with my window manager
[14:15] <aurilliance> AnxiousNut, many thanks for that link mate
[14:15] <Braber01> um is tcpdump a packet sniffer?
[14:16] <harmus> gdoteof, let me search a bit
[14:16] <trans> hello everyone
[14:16] <AnxiousNut> aurilliance, anytime pal ;)
[14:16] <Derp_> Okay, I'll give it a go
[14:16] <gdoteof> Braber01: yes
[14:16] <gdoteof> harmus: thanks
[14:16] <padi999> hi all
[14:17] <trans> I have problem with sound system, I hear button/ confirmation sound  after a short gap, how to rectify it?
[14:17] <fgro> hi folks, i have a question regarding DNS. I've aquired a domain, i.e. example.com with access to DNS settings. Now I want to have an email send to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>be forwarded to my private email. Is that possible using DNS settings? or do i need to get an extra email account from the domain provider?
[14:17] <venilsurya> Does anyone know how to speed up inkscape?
[14:18] <harmus> gdoteof, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=c169ca54a66243c3a8d9468734d9d37a&t=1457609&page=2 there's someone saying you can convert the fedora rpm to a deb
[14:18] <harmus> gdoteof, sudo alien -i thunderbird-3.1-1.fc13.remi.x86_64.rpm
[14:18] <padi999> I have an openoffice calc document with a cell content "13-05-10" which is DD-MM-YY  but Calc does not want to convert this to a proper date, but I need that to calculate the difference between two dates, how can I make the input be recognized in OO calc as a date?
[14:18] <WilliamHerry> why after i install or remove some package, some software exit
[14:18] <WilliamHerry> seems only happened on ubuntu
[14:19] <WilliamHerry> can everyone help me? to figure out it
[14:19] <harmus> gdoteof, you can also do a live boot with 10.10 and see if you like the new thunderbird, i really do
[14:19] <ikonia> WilliamHerry: can you give me an example
[14:19] <WilliamHerry> fcitx,
[14:19] <gdoteof> harmus: that isn't going to keep things managed by aptitude though is it?  is there an advantage to that other than just grabbing the binary from mozillamessaging.com
[14:19] <ikonia> gdoteof: I would very strongly advise you not to install that package
[14:19] <houssem> slt il y a qlq qui parle français
[14:19] <harmus> gdoteof, oh im sorry, you're right
[14:19] <Pici> !fr| houssem
[14:19] <gdoteof> ikonia: er which package
[14:19] <ikonia> WilliamHerry: I don't know what that application is
[14:20] <ikonia> gdoteof: the fedora package
[14:20] <WilliamHerry> after install or remove some package, it shows a Z when i use ps aux | grep fcitx
[14:20] <houssem> ok
[14:20] <WilliamHerry> it is a input method software
[14:20] <gdoteof> ikonia: ok.  yeah thanks i don't think I will.. but i appreciate the detective work harmus.
[14:20] <ikonia> WilliamHerry: what did you remove  ?
[14:20] <john5060> how can you add or remove screensavers to system
[14:20] <gdoteof> ikonia: is there anyway I can get thunderbird 3 managed by aptitude on ubuntu 9.10
[14:20] <SpyderBite> probably share a dependency, WilliamHerry
[14:21] <gdoteof> i suppose i could just update my system but that takes so long
[14:21] <WilliamHerry> any package, shouldn't be dependency
[14:21] <ikonia> gdoteof: thunderbird 3 is in 10.10 only
[14:21] <twister004> hii guys... I am facing a small problem.. I have an SMB server.. smb shares... from which I want to attach files to emails that I send
[14:21] <ikonia> WilliamHerry: what package did you remove
[14:21] <twister004> unfortunately, I am not able to attach or see the shares on my machine when I want to attach the files.. im using Thunderbird email client
[14:21] <twister004> please advise
[14:22] <ikonia> twister004: what's the error
[14:22] <SpyderBite> are the smb shares mounted, twister004 ?
[14:22] <gdoteof> well i am about due for a reinstall anyway.  maybe this will be the straw
[14:22] <WilliamHerry> whatever package i remove, fcitx will exit, i guess
[14:22] <twister004> ikonia.. i dont see the shares
[14:22] <harmus> twister004, can you access the files if you go to ~\.gvfs\samba share name?
[14:22] <ikonia> twister004: where are they mounted ?
[14:22] <ikonia> WilliamHerry: which package did you remove before it started failing
[14:22] <BluesKaj> twister004, copy the file to your home dir fist then attach
[14:22] <trans> I have problem with sound system, I hear button/ confirmation sound  after a short gap, how to rectify it?
[14:23] <lhogie> Hi guys, I just installed (and updated) Ubuntu on my Dell Precision 380.... Everthing is fine execpt that eth0 has to be activated by hand !!! How come?
[14:23] <twister004> BluesKaj.. that's kinda bad dont u  think?
[14:23] <SpyderBite> twister004, try browsing the .gvfs folder instead of going directly to the mount points.. Thunderbird will treat those as local files rather than remote shares.
[14:23] <twister004> ikonia... there's no gvfs folder in my home dir
[14:23] <lhogie> I have to type "ifconfig eth0" "dhclient" every time I reboot the computer :(
[14:23] <ikonia> twister004: where are the shares mounted
[14:23] <ikonia> twister004: where are they mounted
[14:23] <harmus> twister004, type ls ~/.gvfs in the terminal and see if the share is there
[14:24] <WilliamHerry> i am not sure, my mean is once i use software center or apt-get, it exit, no mater what package to install or remove
[14:24] <twister004> ikonia... I dont have them mounted... What i normally do is I go to 'Places->Network->Winodws Network'.and i see the server and shares
[14:24] <harmus> then when you want to attach a file, press ctrl+h when in your home folder, the .gvfs folder will show up
[14:24] <ikonia> lhogie: how have you configured eth0 to auto start
[14:24] <ikonia> twister004: ok - so they need to be mounted
[14:25] <BluesKaj> twister004, no it's not bad , then it's done
[14:25] <harmus> twister004, you're not seeing it because it's hidden, press ctrl+h (means: show hidden files)
[14:25] <gdoteof> am I going to be able to import from evolution into thunderbird?
[14:25] <gdoteof> :( it doesn't see evolution
[14:26] <gdoteof> what the H
[14:26] <harmus> gdoteof, a time consuming workaround is copying the mails to an imap server in evolution and then loading the imap server in thunderbird
[14:26] <ikonia> gdoteof: clam down
[14:26] <ikonia> gdoteof: what format are you exporting from evolution
[14:26] <john5060> I'am new to the system
[14:27] <gdoteof> ikonia: i am drinking chamomile tea in the woods of vermont.  I AM CALM
[14:27] <john5060> can any one help me
[14:27] <ikonia> gdoteof: ok - so what format are you exporting the mails in evolution
[14:27] <twister004> harmus!... amazing!
[14:27] <twister004> thanks!
[14:27] <gdoteof> ikonia: jk.  um.. i haven't even exported.  i was using the import functionality from the tools menu.  i was hoping it would just see the program.. instead it is a blank screen where i choose 'from'
[14:28] <ikonia> gdoteof: ok - so how do you expect something to import if you haven't exported
[14:29] <gdoteof> ikonia: i was under the impression thunderbird was looking for 'expected programs' on the system and importing them automagically.  the ui seems to give that impression
[14:29] <djnihil> alguien me podria ayudar?
[14:29] <gdoteof> i just did a 'backup' of evolution
[14:29] <ikonia> gdoteof: no - your mail is not a program, it's data
[14:29] <djnihil> mi ordenador con ubuntu 10.04 se congela mucho
[14:30] <gdoteof> ikonia: well yeah it's data but that data is stored in certain places by certain programs.  in any case.. when i click import, and go to import 'everything' there isn't a place for me to 'select' data
[14:30] <ikonia> gdoteof: because you need an import file, you need to export your mail before you can import it
[14:31] <gdoteof> ikonia: do i have to put that import file in a certain place?
[14:31] <ikonia> gdoteof: you should be able to browse for it
[14:31] <Luuk> mensen, i kpak de trein, bbl
[14:31] <gdoteof> "This wizard will improt mail mail messages... from other programs'..." well.. it doesn't
[14:31] <gdoteof> ikonia: do you have thunderbird 3?  click the tools, import
[14:31] <ikonia> gdoteof: it does, if you explort
[14:32] <gdoteof> and see what i mean. it really seems that it is trying to look for existing programs
[14:32] <gdoteof> ikonia: i do understand the idea of importing and exporting, but that doesn't seem like it is what this wizard is trying to do
[14:32] <gdoteof> ikonia: there is not an option to browse.
[14:32] <harmus> gdoteof, i can't select evolution either, i copied my mail via an imap server, but there's probably a faster way
[14:33] <gdoteof> ikonia: see!
[14:33] <ikonia> gdoteof: I've just imported a file in thunderbird 3 (1 mail as a test)
[14:33] <ikonia> gdoteof: how are you using thunderbird 3 on 9.10
[14:34] <gdoteof> ikonia: i downloaded it and ran it
[14:34] <gdoteof> http://www.mozillamessaging.com
[14:34] <ikonia> gdoteof: ok - so that's not going to be aware of any applications on your system
[14:34] <gdoteof> ikonia: which is what i was saying before and you told me it wasn't doing that =P
[14:35] <root_> so nobody knows why eth0 is down by default? :(
[14:35] <ikonia> gdoteof: you asked how to import mail from evolution, you can export and import the mail file, the tool your talking about won't work as your 3rd party built thunderbird won't be aware of any applications
[14:35] <ikonia> root_: how did you tell it to come up auto in the first place ?
[14:36] <gdoteof> any idea where the magic that makes thunderbird aware of applications lives?
[14:36] <gdoteof> ikonia: i exported from evolution, i don't see where to import a file
[14:36] <gdoteof> it only lets me select from some list of applications it sees
[14:36] <harmus> ikonia, i believe what you're saying, but on 10.10, both evolution and thunderbird installed (via software center) and they are not aware of each other
[14:37] <adammw111> Hi, I'm trying to install 10.10, what's the reccommended partition size and location?
[14:37] <coz_> adammw111,  are you using the live cd?
[14:37] <adammw111> coz_, yes
[14:37] <ikonia> harmus: yes, I can see that (looking at 10.10 now)
[14:38] <coz_> adammw111,  well I wouldnt give it less than 5 gigs  but you should also see the graphical partition sliders ...yes?
[14:38] <coz_> adammw111,  are you dual booting?
[14:39] <ikonia> gdoteof: the information in this guide does not make good reading for your situation http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/importing_mail_from_evolution?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_mozilla_messaging
[14:39] <adammw111> coz_, i need to do a manual partition as it's a dell and I need to keep the mediadirect partitions. it's not a dual boot, but i'd rather the boot partition logical and the root an extended partition
[14:39] <gdoteof> looks like harmus' solution is the right solution then
[14:40] <coz_> adammw111,  ah  I think I understand... how large is the remiander of the hard drive?
[14:40] <gdoteof> that is wonky as balls
[14:40] <harmus> adammw111, give /boot 2 gigs (to be really sure, 200 megs is enough but you need to clean it once in a while), root like 20 gb to be really sure, and choose how much you want for /home
[14:40] <ikonia> gdoteof: it's certainly not a good process
[14:42] <twister004> harmus... i had a query.. will the .gvfs folder remain if I remove the machine from the network?
[14:42] <harmus> adammw111,  the space for root depends on how much software you're planning to install, if it's really basic like 5 gb is enough
[14:42] <harmus> twister004, the folder will remain but it will be empty
[14:42] <twister004> harmus.. say I connect via pptp to the network... will it get re-populated with the samba shares?
[14:43] <harmus> twister004, yup
[14:43] <kyle_> I'm having some trouble using pitivi, my output works fine, but youtube thinks my ~9 minute videos are 5 hours long
[14:43] <twister004> oh.. then this is gr8!
[14:43] <harmus> twister004, that is, if you connect to the samba shares again
[14:43] <twister004> thanks harmus!!!
[14:43] <kyle_> anyone ever experience this?
[14:43] <twister004> harmus... so I will have to again goto Places->Connect to Server?
[14:43] <adammw111> gparted keeps crashing, does fdisk show extended partitions because I've got one that is "W95 Ext'd (LBA)" but i'm not sure what it is
[14:43] <twister004> and manually connect to each share?
[14:43] <harmus> twister004, you can create a bookmark
[14:44] <twister004> a bookmark for each share?
[14:44] <harmus> twister004, yeah, or 1 bookmark for the server, showing all shares
[14:45] <ohir> ;.//////]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
[14:45] <twister004> hmm
[14:45] <twister004> let me try
[14:45] <rkokkelk> adammw111: fdisk should list all partitions, just do in terminal fdisk -l /dev/(device) to list all
[14:45] <ikonia> ohir: please don't do that
[14:46] <mygeblo> so so so guys, I've just become a ubuntuer :). removed vista for good. had a couple of problems but it's all fixed now
[14:46] <adammw111> So far i've got 5, dell utility, NTFS (C:), W95 Ext'd (LBA), NTFS (D:), dd (mediadirect/unknown/fat32)
[14:47] <ohir> k6mnnnnnnnn[hjn~
[14:48] <twister004> harmus.. I can't add it as a bookmark
[14:48] <gdoteof> probably a cat on his keyboard
[14:48] <twister004> harmus.. I can only add the .gvfs folder as a bookmark.. nothing under it
[14:48] <twister004> it just disappears
[14:49] <rkokkelk> adammw111: haven't seen it before but you could google it to get more info oabout it
[14:49] <nikos> ?
[14:50] <ikonia> nikos: what ?
[14:50] <AR_> how do i make it not ask my for password after my screen goes to sleep
[14:50] <AbhiJit> AR_, its setting in your screensaver preferences
[14:50] <netzapper> is there a super-simple logging program? I essentially want the equivalent of "program_to_log | cat > mine.log", except with log rotation. I'd also accept something that simply truncates logs after a certain size.
[14:50] <ikonia> AR_: set the screen saver to lock, and make sure the screensaver is shorter than the sleep option
[14:51] <ikonia> netzapper: what exactly do you want to log ?
[14:51] <AR_> where is screensaver options
[14:51] <AR_> oh nvm
[14:51] <AR_> found it
[14:51] <netzapper> ikonia: I have a mess of tiny daemons running through daemontools, and I'd like their stdout put into log files (one each).
[14:51] <ikonia> netzapper: nohup them
[14:51] <adammw111> would there be any problems with a /boot of 1GB?
[14:52] <ikonia> adammw111: it would be a massive waste, but no
[14:52] <netzapper> ikonia: I didn't realize that nohup was a logging tool.
[14:52] <adammw111> ikonia, apparently, i actually have to waste 2gb. stupid dell
[14:52] <ikonia> netzapper: it's not, but it will send the std out to nohup.out
[14:53] <netzapper> ikonia: nohup doesn't play nice with daemontools... the latter is non-negotiable.
[14:53] <ikonia> netzapper: just use a redirect then such as 2>out.txt
[14:54] <netzapper> right, but that doesn't fulfill the second part of my requirements which is that there is some upper bound on the log file size. I'm fully aware I could just redirect, but that's insufficient.
[14:54] <nsahoo> hi, does anyone use iFolder here?
[14:54] <ikonia> netzapper: use log rotate
[14:55] <kyle_> just a question:  Why would you need the /boot to be 1 GB?
[14:56] <adammw111> i don't but that's the minimum C: drive size i can set
[14:56] <netzapper> ikonia: okay, so what you're saying is that, no, you don't know of a tool that fits my bill. Thanks for trying.
[14:56] <ikonia> netzapper: the solution I've given you will fit your bill
[14:56] <adammw111> does anyone know how to stop gparted crashing on the livecd?
[14:56] <kyle_> I haven't been here for the whole conversation adamm, can you briefly tell me what you are trying to do
[14:58] <adammw111> well, at the moment the idea is to install the standard dell partitions so it will be happy then use the "C: drive" space for /boot, and make the rest of the partitions in the extended partitions
[14:58] <adammw111> or is that also a bad idea?
[14:58] <nullie> Hello. Anyone knows how to make bell work in gnome?
[14:59] <Shadowcat> using a windows root as a boot partition
[14:59] <Shadowcat> that's so not a good idea
[14:59] <adammw111> well it doesnt actually have windows installed on it
[15:00] <Shadowcat> it's that 200mb recovery partition that Windows 7 installs isn't it?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> adammw111, the gparted-live cd or ubuntu-live cd , crashes?
[15:00] <adammw111> BluesKaj, the ubuntu 10.10 live cd. "Disk Utility" and fdisk work, but gparted dies scanning /dev/sda
[15:01] <Paddy_NI> I used gnome-phone-manager to send sms from my mobile broadband dongle on lucid but on maverick it does not detect the device
[15:01] <Paddy_NI> Mobile broadband still works fine though
[15:01] <adammw111> Shadowcat, my dell's too old for recovery partitions i think. it's got a "utility" partition thogh which is at the start of the drive, but i haven't touched that
[15:01] <kyle_> adam, is XP installed on the pc?
[15:02] <Guest17140> i've got a a VPS that I installed
[15:02] <adammw111> no os is installed yet, dell has just partitioned it for xp
[15:02] <Guest17140> (oops, sorry)
[15:02] <BluesKaj> adammw111, best to burn a gparted live cd and use that as your partition editor ..if you are installing from the ubuntu live cd then let it'd embedded partition editor do the partitoning .. there are 3 options
[15:02] <kyle_> Ok, so are you trying to do a clean format?
[15:03] <Firefishe> I'm using ubuntu/kubuntu 10.04 LTS.  I did this command earlier today:  sudo rm -rf *.la /usb/lib/*  -- How can I fix this problem?  I'm currently using a live cd on the affected computer.
[15:03] <goltoof> adammw111,   what on earth are you doing mixing xp and linux partitions?
[15:03]  * ohir apologizes for his cat playing :/
[15:03] <aeon-ltd> Paddy_NI: sounds like the new kernel had parts of the module removed then, you may need to just find it, compile, and load via modprobe
[15:03] <adammw111> clean install, i need the weird dell partitons so not a clean format. and im trying not to have any xp partitions.
[15:03] <echo310infantry> I know this isn't the correct channel but is there a more robust IRC client the Konversation?
[15:03] <joe1985> Anyone know how I can install Ubuntu?
[15:04] <ikonia> !install | joe1985
[15:04] <joe1985> I spent several hours yesterday trying to install it to no avail.
[15:04] <echo310infantry> what was the issue joel
[15:04] <kyle_> What are the weird dell partitions that you need?  recovery partitions?
[15:04] <kerin> i've got a a VPS that I installed Intrepid on two years ago.  i didn't remember to distupgrade in time, and now none of the repos for the release seem to still exist.  how should i proceed? i haven't done a package upgrade in at least six months so i imagine a lot of things are out of date.
[15:05] <saha> hi
[15:05] <petan> saha need help?
[15:05] <saha> yes
[15:05] <petan> saha: with what
[15:05] <joe1985> echo, My setup is AMD onboard RAID0 with Windows 7. My Ubuntu install was to go on my Kingston SSD which was not part of the RAID. When I chose the drive it would appear to install just fine but upon reboot it would say "error no file found. rescue >"
[15:06] <adammw111> "MediaDirect" (2.2gb,fat32) which is the last partion inside the extended and dellutility (49mb,fat16) which is at the start. all the other space (480gb) is for ubuntu with whatever you reccommend.
[15:06] <saha> im a new member of ubento
[15:06] <saha> and i need a vpn
[15:06] <ArkAnGiCIA> leelooo multipass
[15:06] <Paddy_NI> aeon-ltd, Parts of the module?  How do you mean.. they just reduced its functionality?
[15:06] <petan> saha: openvpn is good
[15:07] <ArkAnGiCIA> bada bouum
[15:07] <saha> where
[15:07] <echo310infantry> sometimes its best to disconnect drives not in use at the time of install
[15:07] <multipass> autowash
[15:07] <petan> saha: apt-get install openvpn
[15:07] <saha> ok
[15:07] <petan> saha: also openvpn.net
[15:07] <ArkAnGiCIA> saha la bess ?
[15:07] <joe1985> echo, I'll give that a shot
[15:07] <joe1985> thnx
[15:07] <saha> thanks
[15:07] <aeon-ltd> Paddy_NI: a separate module may handle the sms side of the dongles functionality
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> aeon-ltd, Ah I see
[15:08] <echo310infantry> the last time i did an install my externals stopped it and caused freezes
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> aeon-ltd, have never compiled a kernel before :P
[15:08] <saha> petan in my country is not working
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> aeon-ltd, I take it a little investigative work is needed to isolate what has been removed
[15:08] <petan> saha why
[15:09] <AshleyT> Hey, my sound works fine in windows...but doesnt in Ubuntu...its connected through a hdmi cable though...could ubuntu not be liking this? (dual monitors also)
[15:09] <saha> i live in persian
[15:09] <petan> saha: openvpn should work anywhere
[15:09] <saha> and this site is block
[15:09] <petan> saha: apt-get install openvpn
[15:10] <echo310infantry> irc.freenode.net
[15:10] <Aufwind> I am using TorProject (Vidala + Tor Button) to hide my ip online. With firefox it works great. Now I have a script (parsing google Scholar) and I want to change the ip for every request I do, so I stay hidden from big brother. How is this managable? If vidala is on, does this mean, that anything, that I do with ma computer runs through the Tor network or only the things I make with firefox?
[15:10] <saha> r u have sorus
[15:10] <adammw111> ok i think i've decided what will work (sorry i keep being confusing and changing my mind). how much space would you need for a fairly large ubuntu installation (programs only, not /home)?
[15:10] <kyle_> hm, have you tried to just straight install and manualy specify the partitions?
[15:10] <goltoof> Aufwind,     have you got it working with xchat?
[15:10] <goltoof> Aufwind,    trying to work on that now
[15:11] <kyle_> I would say no more than 20 GB for /
[15:11] <saha> paten r u have source of this vpn
[15:11] <Aufwind> goltoof: Nope, I didn't. I don't use xchat.
[15:11] <petan> saha: type in terminal sudo apt-get install openvpn
[15:11] <Aufwind> goltoof: I just want my python script to run through the tor network
[15:12] <Aufwind> Someone got an idea about that?
[15:12] <saha> what
[15:12] <petan> saha: are you using ubuntu? that will install it.
[15:12] <goltoof> Aufwind,    well, tor needs to be configured to work with whatever you're doing  just like Firefox, or xchat for that matter..    you're not hidden just because you have it running
[15:12] <goltoof> Aufwind,   maybe you already know that
[15:12] <Guest50171> hello
[15:12] <saha> no not this time is begining
[15:13] <Aufwind> goltoof: Yes, but I don't know how to configure tor, so that it works with my terminal... You got a hint for me?
[15:13] <djzn> what does it mean "Poll every 10 miliseconds"
[15:13] <petan> saha: ok so you need vpn but on what OS
[15:13] <saha> in ubento
[15:14] <goltoof> Aufwind,    no sorry,  i asked a similar question yesterday but it's all a bit beyond me right now
[15:14] <herpinderp> hi all
[15:14] <saha> i have vpn in windows but not working in ubento
[15:14] <Aufwind> goltoof: Thank you anyway and good look for your own problem. =)
[15:14] <petan> saha: ubento?
[15:14] <ghettobillgates> sup dudes
[15:14] <ghettobillgates> Ubuntu 10 is sweet
[15:14] <gamerpro2000> No its not
[15:14] <ghettobillgates> anyone want to be my friend
[15:14] <saha> yes
[15:14] <goltoof> petan:  yeah, ubento... nobody uses ubuntu anymore
[15:15] <gamerpro2000> Ubuntu is a horrendious nightmare
[15:15] <petan> saha: you mean ubuntu
[15:15] <AbhiJit> !ot | ghettobillgates
[15:15] <saha> yes
[15:15] <ghettobillgates> thanks AbhiJit beti
[15:15] <kyle_> 10 as in .04 or as in .10
[15:15] <ghettobillgates> .10
[15:15] <Shadowcat> 10.04 is too new to be properly supported by most things
[15:15] <ghettobillgates> is .04 hated on or liked compared to .10
[15:15] <petan> saha: sudo apt-get install openvpn type that to terminal
[15:15] <gamerpro2000> Both are being horrendiously nightmare-ish for me
[15:15] <Shadowcat> err 10.10 I mean
[15:15] <ghettobillgates> what do you use?
[15:15] <Shadowcat> 10.10 is way too new
[15:15] <kyle_> I just upgraded to 10.10 this morning
[15:16] <gnu|2> hello
[15:16] <ghettobillgates> I got amy android dev setup so I am happy
[15:16] <kyle_> everything seems fine for what I use it for
[15:16] <petan> saha: terminal can be launch from menu
[15:16] <goltoof> gamerpro2000,    have you tried any other distros?  debian? fedora?
[15:16] <aeon-ltd> Paddy_NI: you don't need to compile a kernel, just laod the module at boot
[15:16] <aeon-ltd> *laod
[15:16] <AshleyT> Hey, my sound works fine in windows...but doesnt in Ubuntu...its connected through a hdmi cable though...could ubuntu not be liking this? (dual monitors also)
[15:16] <aeon-ltd> *load
[15:16] <Shadowcat> kyle_: most commercial software work around the LTS releases
[15:16]  * ghettobillgates gives saha chai
[15:16] <Shadowcat> VMWare Tools doesn't even compile properly in 10.10
[15:16] <saha> i donot find it
[15:17] <saha> ok
[15:17] <gamerpro2000> goltoof, its not the distro.  Its the fact that all debian distros have decided to adopt the new GDM and KDM configs.  No, my multiseatX environment is broken and throwing fits and the patched stuff for it DOESN'T work
[15:17] <petan> saha: Application ->accessories
[15:17] <gamerpro2000> and of course, it worked with 8.04, but now that's not supported anymore
[15:17] <tortoise> Hello everyone. I'm having some problems with my wired eth0. It's always worked fine, but I just booted up and it's saying "device not managed" under wired networks. I'm not sure what exactly this means.
[15:18] <gamerpro2000> tortoise
[15:18] <gamerpro2000> reboot
[15:18] <Aufwind> goltoof: Did you see that? http://bit.ly/caargk XChat is listed below...
[15:18] <gamerpro2000> This is linux.  You have to reboot more than Windows to get it to work right
[15:18] <kyle_> I'm not a power user or anything, I compile stuff with gcc from time to time, but I probably wouldn't notice a feature if it were broken
[15:18] <kyle_> lol
[15:18] <saha> ok find it
[15:18] <tortoise> gamerpro2000: alright, I'll be right back if that doesn't work
[15:18] <saha> and then
[15:19] <gamerpro2000> Does anyone know how to resolve a segmentation fault signal 13?
[15:19] <joe85> what would cause Ubuntu to not see my SSD in the installation menu?
[15:19] <Keshi> On Ubuntu 10.10 using both the Sun Java plugin and the icedtea plugin java applets crash most of the time when loading.
[15:19] <kyle_> turn off the computer
[15:19] <kyle_> I've had that problem too keshi
[15:19] <gamerpro2000> joe85, sata?
[15:19] <petan> saha: type sudo apt-get install openvpn
[15:19] <joe85> gamerpro2000, yeah. I can see it when I login to LiveCD
[15:20] <kyle_> have you tried the alternate ISO
[15:20] <coz_> Keshi,   I would open synaptic   hit search and type  icedtea  and remove "all" that are listed there
[15:20] <goltoof> Aufwind,    no I haven't..  i just followed the steps at the project site  since the other isn't kept up to date (as they say)  https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian
[15:20] <goltoof> Aufwind,   i'll try it though, thanks!
[15:20] <gamerpro2000> joe85, try the alternative install method
[15:20] <gamerpro2000> and see if it helps
[15:20] <Aufwind> goltoof: yw
[15:20] <tortoise> gamerpro2000: it's giving me the same message
[15:21] <Keshi> I will have a look. I do not think icedtea is running as a plugin in firefox at all though.
[15:21] <gamerpro2000> So, what does it matter?  Can you not connect ot the network or something?
[15:21] <brianBTB> who controls SS repo updates?
[15:21] <tortoise> Not with a wired connection
[15:21] <saha> wow some download is getting
[15:21] <gamerpro2000> tortoise, does it interfere with your ability to get online?
[15:21] <joe85> gamerpro2000, what do you mean alternate install? I don't see that option
[15:21] <tortoise> No
[15:22] <gamerpro2000> joe85, you need to download the alternate install iso
[15:22] <saha> after this progresss where is installing this porogram
[15:22] <joe85> gamerpro2000, thanks. I should have looked that up. sry
[15:22] <gamerpro2000> tortoise, that means that another application besides network manager is managing your network adapter.  If it doesn't affect your ability to connect, don't worry about it
[15:22] <gamerpro2000> joe85, its cool.  Hope it helps
[15:22] <petan> saha: openvpn works in terminal but it is not so hard to launch
[15:22] <saha> petan thanks
[15:23] <petan> saha: you will need to set up server then you will be able to connect to it
[15:23] <lock> hey, how to reset/renew ip in ubuntu?
[15:23] <petan> saha: with openvpn client
[15:23] <tortoise> gamerpro2000: it doesn't affect my ability to connect, but it does affect my ability to connect via a wired connection, therefore I want to fix it. If you don't know how to fix it, then that's fine.
[15:23] <lock> !ubottu
[15:23] <saha> ok
[15:23] <AshleyT> sigh...no-one can help with la sound problem? I tried asking on forums with no joy =(
[15:24] <goltoof> Aufwind,     this is what I get trying that method   http://paste.ubuntu.com/530050/
[15:24] <gamerpro2000> tortoise, how are you connecting now?  You just told me a few minutes ago that it didn't affect your ability to connect.
[15:24] <gamerpro2000> That's why I said don't worry about it
[15:24] <lock> hey, how to reset/renew ip in ubuntu?
[15:24] <tortoise> I'm connected wirelessly, obviously my wired connection is a lot faster so I want to be able to connect wired but that's the part that's not working
[15:24] <BluesKaj> !interfaces
[15:25] <Aufwind> goltoof: Sorry, but not into this stuff, either. I just passed the link to you, because I remembered, that you are looking for sth. that has to do with TOR and Xchat. :)
[15:25] <gamerpro2000> lock, go here
[15:25] <gamerpro2000> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150713
[15:25] <echo310infantry> !
[15:25] <lock> gamerpro2000: thanks
[15:25] <gamerpro2000> np
[15:25] <gamerpro2000> Anybody know how to fix a segmentation fault with a signal code 13 in Xorg?
[15:25] <Keshi> Nope, still hangs with openjdk and all icedtea bits completely removed.
[15:25] <saha> petan u are so nice
[15:26] <tortoise> gamerpro2000: don't worry about it though, I think I just found the fix
[15:26] <gamerpro2000> tortoise, what did you find out?
[15:26] <kyle_> x86 or 64 keshi
[15:26] <petan> saha: configuring vpn is not that easy if you do not understand networking and basics of linux
[15:26] <echo310infantry> does this channel have a weather bot?
[15:27] <Shadowcat> !weather
[15:27] <Keshi> 64.
[15:27] <adammw111> what exact benefit is there of separating / and /home ?
[15:27] <petan> saha: in #openvpn you can get help
[15:27] <echo310infantry> ty
[15:27] <Shadowcat> nope
[15:27] <saha> ok
[15:27] <echo310infantry> !weather 10016
[15:27] <Keshi> Umm...the OS or the plugin?
[15:27] <echo310infantry> !weather
[15:27] <Keshi> The OS is 64 bit and the plugin I am not sure.
[15:27] <saha> what do i now
[15:27] <Keshi> I will check.
[15:27] <echo310infantry> bullshit
[15:27] <petan> saha: set up server
[15:28] <lock> does anyone know of any affordable tablet devices similar that natively run linux?
[15:28] <lock> *similar to ipad
[15:28] <petan> saha: what exactly you need
[15:28] <cYmen> Can anybody tell me what mplayer needs access to /dev/nvidiactl for?
[15:28] <kyle_> have you tried to manually put it in your plugins folder keshi?
[15:28] <goltoof> adammw111,     i'm just curious... have  you found anyone here who has any idea what you're talking about or trying to accomplish?
[15:28] <saha> i want to go to facebook
[15:28] <Pici> echo310infantry: Please mind your language.  This is a support channel, we have no need for a weather bot or anything like that.
[15:29] <Keshi> No, I have not tried that.
[15:29] <saha> but in may conutry this site is block
[15:29] <Radieux> Please help me
[15:29] <kyle_> hold on and ill give you a link
[15:29] <petan> saha: why you need vpn for facebook
[15:29] <Radieux> in running BT4
[15:29] <adammw111> goltoof, some people have some ideas here and there. so it *is* actually helping. i think i just keep changing my mind too much or finding new problems
[15:29] <petan> saha: aha
[15:29] <Radieux> this is my 1st time
[15:29] <petan> saha: proxy will help you in this
[15:29] <saha> ok
[15:29] <kyle_> http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com
[15:29] <saha> that is right
[15:30] <kyle_> follow the instructions for the 64 bit version
[15:30] <Doonz> Hey guys, Im running Ubuntu 10.04 server in Vmware Workstation on a windows host. My keyboard mappings on the guest OS (Ubuntu server) are all buggered up. Where is the key mapping file?
[15:30] <tortoise> Okay, I got the wired connection to work again, but now it's showing to wried connections. Autoeth0 and ifupdown(eth0)
[15:30] <tortoise> I only have one ethernet plugged in, so is there a difference bettween those?
[15:31] <goltoof> Aufwind,    yea i'm aware...  just weird the lack of documentation on xchat/tor usage   since both are pretty popular
[15:32] <saha> petan r u there
[15:32] <petan> saha: yes
[15:32] <karthick87> who is the operator of ubottu?
[15:32] <saha> where is open  vpn in my pc
[15:33] <Pici> Aufwind: freenode blocks connections from tor exit notes.  Please ask in #freenode for information on how to get past that.
[15:33] <adammw111> i was just about to say that i had finished before i realised i don't have any swap space. is swap best in primary or extended partition, and what size for 4GB of ram?
[15:33] <cement_head> can you play COD:BO on wine?
[15:33] <Pici> !owner | karthick87
[15:33] <petan> saha: what you want to do with vpn you need vpn server if you want to access facebook with that and that need to have access
[15:33] <petan> saha: proxy is better
[15:33] <dwhitehead> After upgrade to 10.04, mysql won't start, googled it, nothing seems to work, complains about the .sock file
[15:33] <saha> ok
[15:33] <gamerpro2000> You know what, I'm just going to ask a generic question.  Does ANYBODY have a good multiseatX implementation that works reliably with ATi cards and Ubuntu 10.04
[15:34] <gdoteof> how come i see truecrypt in my .. idk the word here.  when I type sudo apt-get install truec<tab> i see truecrypt, but it won't let me install
[15:34] <saha> r u have a proxy
[15:34] <goltoof> Pici,   thanks,  ps i'm the one trying to make it work   :)
[15:34] <saha> like puff
[15:34] <nenu> you need to start it manually as there is no pid with sock
[15:34] <gusso> help me..i cannot login in gnome... :(
[15:35] <gdoteof> gusso: you can't login into your machine at all or just gnome
[15:35] <gdoteof> ie, it is a gnome problem or you forgot your password problem
[15:35] <gusso> ehhh i cannot login in gnome
[15:35] <nenu> gusso :whats the error
[15:35] <gamerpro2000> Would somebody please helps already
[15:35] <gusso> failed authentication
[15:36] <kyle_> lol
[15:36] <dwhitehead> nenu: tried that as well, gives "can't connect to local mysql server through socket '/var/run...'
[15:36] <petan> saha: you can use openproxy search wikipedia
[15:36] <gamerpro2000> I've been trying to get this working for 9 weeks
[15:36] <gdoteof> gusso: you have to remember your password
[15:36] <saha> in windows i use u95 or puff in ubunto have like this porogram
[15:36] <echo310infantry> !weather 10023
[15:36] <gusso> yes i know
[15:36] <petan> saha: there may be article explainig proxy
[15:36] <gdoteof> gusso: search for 'single user mode'
[15:36] <sideone> i need to find a cobol channel.. anyone know of a general coding channel on #freenode,eff,dal,under?
[15:37] <saha> thanks petan bye
[15:37] <echo310infantry> gamerpro, whats wrong?
[15:37] <nenu> gusso :r u able to login at cmd
[15:37] <gdoteof> sideone: #cobol here has a topic set
[15:37] <gdoteof> but no one is there
[15:37] <gamerpro2000> echo310infantry, I'm trying to get a multiseatx environment working reliably
[15:37] <sideone> hahah i know :)
[15:37] <sideone> its extinct
[15:37] <gamerpro2000> its for a non-profit school
[15:37] <sideone> :)
[15:37] <sideone> been a while since i compiled anything outside of gcc :)
[15:38] <gdoteof> sideone: it looks like irc.synirc.net has #cobol
[15:38] <echo310infantry> what issue are you having with it?
[15:38] <sideone> gdoteof; yep first line of google :)
[15:38] <gdoteof> yes, did you try it/
[15:38] <gamerpro2000> I get a segmentation fault sometimes when booting on two of the monitors.  They all have identical video cards, monitors, keyboards, and mice
[15:38] <gamerpro2000> Signal 13
[15:38] <dlynes_laptop> Is there a reason why Ubuntu 10.04 takes about 5 times longer to install than 9.04?  It seems to sit there and pause after every single task
[15:39] <dlynes_laptop> Also, is there a way to tell it not to show the splash screen, so that I can actually interact with the install?
[15:39] <gamerpro2000> Sorry, Signal 11
[15:39] <gamerpro2000> Not 13
[15:39] <sideone> gdoteof; just got there.. was blocking outbound 6660,
[15:39] <sideone> thanks gdoteof :)
[15:39] <echo310infantry> lol ok.. i was like wtf is 13
[15:40] <echo310infantry> nvidia cards?
[15:40] <gdoteof> sideone: i checked r/cobol too but not much action there.. though i bet if you had a couple days you could get some help there
[15:40] <sideone> hahhaha
[15:40] <sideone> thanks buddy
[15:40] <clocKwize> hi guys, I need to add something to the global PATH variable.. I've added export PATH=$PATH:/blah to /etc/profile but this isn't being picked up inside some automated process. it works on the terminal though
[15:41] <EVRAMP> Hello, I'm having problem with debugging using DDD. I get strange warnings "libc-start.c: no such file or directory". It's the same as here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ddd/+bug/473919 The problem is I can't debug complex programs. Has anyone clue what to do?
[15:41] <goltoof> is there a cli tool that shows all system specs?  ram, disk usage, temp, process, etc   kind of like a screenlet, but all in one in terminal
[15:41] <goltoof> ?
[15:42] <goltoof> all in one, instead of having to check each individually
[15:42] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[15:43] <silv3r_m00n> on my gnome desktop I can't right click , there is now background wallpaper and no icons
[15:43] <silv3r_m00n> but I can use menu to launch and use applications
[15:43] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix ?
[15:43] <LjL> goltoof: i don't know, but you could easily write a script that calls all the programs you want in a row.
[15:43] <echo310infantry> restart
[15:43] <coz_> silv3r_m00n,  yikes   yes a restart would be the first thing
[15:43] <silv3r_m00n> this problem has been there for 3 days
[15:43] <goltoof> LjL     i can't, someone else can/has I'm sure
[15:44] <coz_> silv3r_m00n,  ooo  ok so a restart did not work
[15:44] <kyle_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:44] <silv3r_m00n> the main ubuntu account is fine , this account was created later
[15:44] <echo310infantry> silv do a coomand based update
[15:44] <BluesKaj> !top
[15:44] <silv3r_m00n> kyle_ : the main account works
[15:44] <mbleigh> so...anyone heard rumors of when netflix will work on linux?
[15:44] <silv3r_m00n> all packages in synaptic have been updated
[15:44] <kyle_> It was more of a joke :)
[15:44] <coz_> silv3r_m00n,  can you delete that account and create a new one?
[15:44] <echo310infantry> does it work in recovery mode?
[15:45] <echo310infantry> oh good one coz
[15:45] <silv3r_m00n> coz_: yes
[15:45] <kyle_> hit shift as the pc is booting
[15:45] <joe85> Why does Ubuntu not show my SSD?
[15:45] <coz_> silv3r_m00n,  then that would be the first thing to do ...it could be..for some reason...that account is corrupt
[15:45] <echo310infantry> still not joe?
[15:45] <kyle_> what model ssd and what chipset joe?
[15:46] <echo310infantry> joe can u see it in fdisk?
[15:46] <LjL> goltoof: sure you can, it's a matter of making a text file that says #!/bin/bash on the first line, and on the lines that follow contains the names of the programs you want to run. put it in /usr/local/bin and make it executable.
[15:46] <coz_> guys if you type   joe  and hit tab it will complete his nick and he can be allerted :)  just though I would remind you :)
[15:46] <dlynes_laptop> Any idea how disable the splash screen/throb bar in lucid?
[15:47] <coz_> dlynes_laptop,  which ubuntu version?
[15:47] <dlynes_laptop> coz_, lucid (10.04)
[15:47] <coz_> dlynes_laptop, ` mm  was this an upgrade?
[15:47] <goltoof> LjL,     yes i'm familiar with bash...   i mean getting each program sectioned out on one screen
[15:47] <lock> dlynes_laptop: im pretty sure you have to edit grub.cfg
[15:47] <dlynes_laptop> coz_, fresh install via pxe_boot
[15:47] <lock> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[15:48] <coz_> dlynes_laptop,   mmm  the throbar was in xsplash and ubuntu now used plymouth  ,, this is odd but let me check
[15:48] <joe85> echo, I guess I didnt' get the installer I got 10.10
[15:48] <dlynes_laptop> lock, any idea what the option is, then?  fwiw, there is no grub.cfg for pxe boot...it doesn't use grub
[15:48] <lock> at least thats how on fedora
[15:48] <lock> ah my bad, didnt see the pxe boot
[15:48] <paddy_> I am using shellinabox but it is v. slow on irssi; what is wrong, also while the user list appears I cannot enter any commands!
[15:48] <echo310infantry> run diskutility
[15:48] <dlynes_laptop> lock, and fwiw, i know how to change the options in both grub and pxe...what I don't know, is what option to change/add
[15:49] <echo310infantry> make sure it shows up
[15:49] <joe85> I am in Ubuntu LiveCD. I can see my SSD. THen I click install on the desktop and it doesnt show it
[15:49] <nsahoo> I have this nasty problem: can't boot into 2.6.35 after upgrading to ubuntu 10.10 and grub2. The error message says gave up waiting for root device
[15:49] <dlynes_laptop> lock, but, it sounds like you're a fedora guy, so you probably don't even know
[15:49] <ikonia> paddy_: sheel in a box is not in the ubuntu repos
[15:49] <ikonia> oops, shell in a box I mean
[15:49] <goltoof> LjL,    and truncating the information i don't want to see.
[15:49] <echo310infantry> i had to pre format making a swap and ext4
[15:49] <coz_> nsahoo,   does the prompt  say   initramfs   ?
[15:50] <lock> dlynes_laptop: im sure that option is listed in ubuntu forums
[15:50] <nsahoo> coz_: yes after that it drops to intramfs prompt
[15:50] <joe85> echo, it shows up in disk utility
[15:50] <coz_> nsahoo,  ok at that prompt  type     exit   and hit enter
[15:50] <echo310infantry> is it formated?
[15:50] <lock> dlynes_laptop: all of these distros are essentially the same, just different filenames with different paths
[15:50] <krisphillips> Can anybody please tell me what this log means? http://pastebin.com/qg1TtiXz
[15:50] <coz_> nsahoo,  then tell me if it boots to desktop
[15:50] <echo310infantry> when during the install does it hang?
[15:51] <dlynes_laptop> lock, yeah...but ubuntu doesn't use the standard kernel splash screen, because as i said, it's got a throb bar
[15:51] <nsahoo> coz_: let me reboot for that. i'll loginto this chatroom from another machine
[15:51] <joe85> echo, it was formatted as ext4
[15:51] <echo310infantry> when during the install does it hang?
[15:51] <ikonia> krisphillips: it's a seg fault, it means there is a problem with your X server, based on what I'm seeing I'd guess the ATI module
[15:51] <paddy_> ikonia: which channel should I be on then?
[15:51] <LjL> goltoof: i've searched a bit, but can't see a program like that
[15:51] <ikonia> paddy_: shell in a box support ?
[15:52] <krisphillips> ikonia, any ideas on how to fix it?  Its intermittent and only happens once and a while.  2 out of 4 of my displays won't start.
[15:52] <goltoof> LjL,   maybe you know this answer..   how would i truncate the output of, say,  uptime..   so it only shows the days it's been up ?
[15:52] <ikonia> krisphillips: intermittent, interesting, I wonder if it's hardware related then, eg: a bit of bad ram, have you done a ram test on your machine ?
[15:52] <joe85> echo, now when I try to format it says Daemon is inhibited
[15:52] <goltoof> LjL,    not the user or load averages
[15:52] <goltoof> LjL,    that'd be a good first step..
[15:52] <lock> dlynes_laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11478
[15:52] <LjL> goltoof: uptime | awk ' { print $3 } '
[15:53] <nsahoo> coz_: it does not get into desktop after I type exit and enter
[15:53] <krisphillips> ikonia, its for a school and I have 20 computers with identical hardware that have the same problem
[15:53] <nsahoo> goes right back to initramfs
[15:53] <goltoof> Leemp,     :)
[15:53] <hex0> How come that I've set my language to Engelsh but in some windows it isn't englesh?
[15:53] <echo310infantry> hmm give me a min
[15:53] <hex0> english*
[15:53] <ikonia> krisphillips: really, I'd guess (and it is just a case based on experience) it's just an instability with the ATI driver - it's closed source and known to be poor
[15:53] <coz_> nsahoo,   did you try it several times...usually you have to wait about 5 seconds or so before typing exit
[15:53] <LjL> goltoof: if you want to build this yourself, i think the most useful commands you should keep in mind are awk, head, tail and cut
[15:53] <krisphillips> ikonia, I'm using the radeon driver, not fglrx
[15:54] <coz_> nsahoo,  and you are dual booted?
[15:54] <ikonia> krisphillips: still poor
[15:54] <goltoof> LjL,      what if i only want to show the top 5 processes in top?
[15:54] <petan> hex0: what windows
[15:54] <krisphillips> ikonia, got a suggestion?
[15:54] <hex0> Firefox
[15:54] <goltoof> LjL,      right..   still haven't gotten savvy with awk or operators
[15:54] <ikonia> krisphillips: I'd log a bug and get the back track examined
[15:54] <ikonia> krisphillips: what ubuntu version is it ?
[15:54] <petan> hex0: do you have apt version?
[15:54] <krisphillips> 10.04 lts
[15:54] <ikonia> krisphillips: yeah, I'd log a bug
[15:55] <nsahoo> coz_: i am not dual booted, i waited for a bit and tried again now. the error is "gave up waiting for root device" it's looking for sda1 but /dev/sda1 is not there. only /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[15:55] <krisphillips> k
[15:55] <ikonia> krisphillips: maybe try to get someone from the xorg project to take a look too
[15:55] <petan> hex0: I mean aptitude installed, or default
[15:55] <krisphillips> Will do.  Thx.
[15:55] <joe85> echo, in disk utility it says PATA HOST adapter
[15:55] <coz_> nsahoo,  mmm ok let me check hold on
[15:55] <hex0> default
[15:55] <ravionrails> update manager not showing lucid,  i am on karmic  somebody help me
[15:55] <petan> hex0: what language it is
[15:55] <echo310infantry> thats not good
[15:55] <hex0> Norwgian*
[15:56] <echo310infantry> do a bios reset then try a clean reformat
[15:56] <echo310infantry> maybe bios gremlins
[15:56] <goltoof> LjL,    i think i'd be fine with a command like "summary"  that just gives me a snapshot of each thing i want to see, not realtime, for now
[15:56] <petan> hex0: it was even before nor?
[15:56] <petan> hex0: or it changed
[15:57] <hex0> I installed Ubuntu in norwegian but I changed it to English
[15:57] <ikonia> !upgrade > ravionrails
[15:57] <petan> hex0: that is normall
[15:57] <nsahoo> strange thing is /dev/sda1 does not exist. what could cause that when I load 2.6.35 kernel?
[15:57] <LjL> goltoof: "top" is not really well suited to that, but if you want to show the top 5 processes in "ps aux", then do ps aux --sort -%cpu | head -n 5
[15:57] <petan> hex0: you would have to reinstall all packages
[15:57] <hex0> oh, ok
[15:57] <hex0> how do I do that?
[15:57] <ikonia> nsahoo: whcih kernel version exactly
[15:57] <petan> hex0: not all software support multilingual features
[15:57] <dlynes_laptop> coz_, lock got somebody in #ubuntu-install that knows exactly what I'm talking about...thanks for your help
[15:57] <dlynes_laptop> coz_, lock had something to do with plymouthd
[15:57] <nsahoo> ikonia: 2.6.35-23-generic
[15:58] <coz_> dlynes_laptop,  ah  ok
[15:58] <dwhitehead> is it possible on a 10.04 ubuntu install w/mysql to copy the databases out, purge and reinstall mysql, then copy databases back in?
[15:58] <LadyNikon> anyone having a problem with java?
[15:58] <nsahoo> ikonia: on 64bit ubuntu
[15:58] <petan> hex0: you can install english firefox from getfirefox.com
[15:58] <hex0> ok
[15:58] <ikonia> nsahoo: ls -la /dev/sda is that there ?
[15:58] <coz_> dlynes_laptop,  which channel is that again?
[15:58] <Eighteens> how do i reset a users desktop to the last state it was in before it stopped working, everything was working sweet until the user had gone to 'Appearance Preferences > Visual Affects > Preferences > and clicked a zoom option, now the user (my son) cant access his desktop, all he see's is the wallpaper, for a few seconds, then the system throws him back to the login screen, thanks in advance if anyone can help
[15:59] <nsahoo> ikonia: the device is there
[15:59] <goltoof> LjL,     coool  thx....   time for a couple tutorials  :)
[15:59] <ikonia> nsahoo: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[15:59] <dlynes_laptop> coz_, #ubuntu-installer
[15:59] <ikonia> nsahoo: does it show the partitions
[15:59] <nsahoo> ikonia: after the perms, the numbers say: 1 8, 0 /dev/sda
[16:00] <coz_> dlynes_laptop,   ok I just go there
[16:00] <nsahoo> ikonia: i am in initramfs prompt now. so no fdisk
[16:00] <nsahoo> i can boot fine using the 2.6.32 kernel
[16:00] <ikonia> nsahoo: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda (do it from a livecd)
[16:00] <nsahoo> ikonia: what are we looking for?
[16:00] <ikonia> why do you have the .32 kernel, thats from a different release
[16:01] <echo310infantry> joe.. any progress?
[16:01] <Eighteens> my sons using ubuntu 10.10, and he said he found this by right clicking the desktop, where you change the wallpaper, sorry i forgot to mention this... but the system wont give him any menus, he was trying to show me something cool, as he put it, and all of a sudden the system booted him back to the login screen after checking a zoom option
[16:02] <nsahoo> any help?
[16:02] <hotbody> i would like to dowload music using torrent but i don't know how
[16:02] <ikonia> nsahoo: why do you have the .32 kernel, thats from a different release
[16:03] <mawst> man
[16:03] <mawst> Are you serious?
[16:03] <mawst> heh
[16:03] <air^> howdy.
[16:03] <ikonia> hotbody: we are not here to help you get illegal music
[16:03] <cdubya> I know I had an issue before the network-manager and I think it was gnome-keyring always prompting for password to access when trying to negotiate wireless. Is there a fix for this available? Before I just installed wicd and apt-get wanted to remove network-manager which was fine with me since I didn't want to use it anyway. However, when I tried to install wicd before on 10.04 it didn't remove network-manager
[16:04] <Eighteens> can anyone see my text, just checking
[16:04] <ikonia> Eighteens: yes
[16:04] <Eighteens> ikonia thank you
[16:05] <goltoof> hotbody,      we will assume that you're downloading LEGAL torrents....   in which case you can use Transmission
[16:05] <nsahoo> ikonia: we have to ask that to the installer folks. I did a fresh install of 10.10 to resolve this problem
[16:05] <goltoof> hotbody,     that comes with ubuntu,   there are several others out there to try
[16:05] <ikonia> nsahoo: then you shouldn't have the .32 kernel
[16:05] <ikonia> nsahoo: 10.10 comes with 2.6.35 kernel
[16:06] <researcher1> is it possible to install a Ubuntu network just for web-surfing on a windows networked PC?
[16:06] <adammw111> will first boot after install be longer than a normal start up time?
[16:06] <ikonia> researcher1: an ubuntu network ? that makes no sense
[16:06] <nsahoo> ikonia: it might also come with the 2.6.32 kernels. otherwise i'd not have it here
[16:06] <hax> hey
[16:06] <ikonia> nsahoo:  it doesn't
[16:06] <ikonia> nsahoo: it comes with 2.6.35 only
[16:06] <hax> how do i install "grab"
[16:06] <hax> i cant use the command grab
[16:07] <hax> "grab: command not found"
[16:07] <Eighteens> i hate to repeat myself, i'm really a patient person, can anyone offer some help to a old man, and his 8yr old boy, who seemed to mess up his desktop... I just want to know how to reset his desktop to the last working state
[16:07] <nsahoo> ikonia: the update manager might have updated it afterwards. I don't know. Just that 2.6.35 is not booting here where as 2.6.32 is
[16:07] <goltoof> hax,  what is that?
[16:07] <ikonia> nsahoo: it's important to know where that other kernel came from as it may explain what's changed/broke
[16:07] <hax> goltoof: a comand, "grab"
[16:07] <ChaosR> hello, is there a utility to check remote servers for apt updates (for ubuntu)
[16:08] <goltoof> hax,   yes but what's it for?  what does grab do?
[16:08] <izinucs> How do I bring a wireless interface down using cli?  sudo ifdown wlan1 didn't work
[16:08] <ChaosR> and report it to my desktop when there is one
[16:08] <hax> goltoof: grab build/addon.xpi ect?
[16:08] <goltoof> Eighteens,   can you log into the desktop
[16:08] <goltoof> hax,    nevermind... it was a simple question
[16:09] <hax> goltoof: build a file?
[16:09] <Eighteens> goltoof: yes, he can log in, but all he sees is wallpaper, and only for a few seconds, then the system throws him back to the login screen
[16:09] <hax> goltoof: i dident understand what u wass after
[16:09] <Keshi> kyle___: seems the same.
[16:09] <nsahoo> the forums are riddled with this error reports without any clear answer. lot of people are experiencing the error "gave up waiting for root device"
[16:09] <Keshi> Followed the instructed and copied it manually to the folder.
[16:09] <Eighteens> goltoof: this happened after he changed a zoom option in apperance, visual preferences
[16:09] <goltoof> hax  just curious
[16:10] <goltoof> Eighteens,  hmm..  not familiar with that one
[16:10] <hax> goltoof: kk, but do u know what package i need to install?
[16:10] <ikonia> nsahoo: I'm just trying to work out if 10.10 shipped with 2.6.32
[16:10] <ikonia> nsahoo: it's looking like it actually did
[16:10] <Eighteens> goltoof, actually he checked a box, that was un-checked, and immediately the system threw him back to the login screen
[16:11] <Lord_Rahl> Does anyone else have a problem with smbclient in 10.10? Like copying  a file to a windows share.  All i get is "Invalid argument"
[16:11] <goltoof> Eighteens,   what build?    10.04, 10.10 ?
[16:11] <hax> Hey some one who know what i need to install to use the "grab" command?
[16:11] <ikonia> nsahoo: that looks like a lucid kernel
[16:11] <Eighteens> goltoof: yes 10.10, i was able to login as root on his system, and that desktop works fine, yes 10.10
[16:12] <hax> HELP! problem: "grab: command not found"
[16:12] <ikonia> hax: insall grab
[16:12] <goltoof> !patience    | hax
[16:12] <coz_> ikonia,  <IP_ADDRESS>  is default 10.10 ...just checked on my 10.10 machine
[16:12] <coz_> :)
[16:12] <hax> ikonia: ive tryed sudo apt-get install grab
[16:12] <adammw111> is over 10 minutes of the "ubuntu" screen normal for first boot after install or how can i fix it?
[16:12] <goltoof> hax,  it might help us to explain what you're trying to do.. maybe there's another tool that can do it for you
[16:12] <ikonia> coz_: thank you
[16:13] <tortoise> I'm having some issues with a static ip, the first time I reboot after changing to a static ip I got the "device not managed" error. I fixed that by changing ifupdown=false to true, in/etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf. Now, I can connect to the wired connection but I can't load any pages in firefox.
[16:13] <julianoliver> hi. i'd like to completely remove GDM from my 10.04 install and have an automatic login, booting straight to awesome or another light window manager. the threads i've found in the past refer to /etc/innittab and other locations not present since 10.04. any advice/HOWTO links?
[16:13] <tortoise> Does anyone know what might be causing this?
[16:13] <hax> goltoof: iam trying to compile a file now
[16:13] <ikonia> nsahoo: something is very wrong with your install then you have a clean 10.10 box, with a lucid kernel on it
[16:13] <coz_> ikonia,  you knew that but thought I would just verify it :)
[16:13] <hax> goltoof: i have used the make cmd
[16:13] <Eighteens> goltoof, can i go to the file directly, and edit the file for visual preferences, and rem out the line, from him checking the zoom option?
[16:13] <ikonia> coz_: I actually didn't, I was questioning it
[16:13] <goltoof> Eighteens,    I don't see any checkboxes at login screen for 10.10
[16:13] <coz_> ikonia,  ah ok  :)
[16:13] <hax> goltoof: and now i need to grap build/addonto.xpi
[16:14] <Eighteens> goltoof, oh sorry didn't mean to confuse you, this was from his desktop option, he right clicked "change walpaper" then from there he changed his Appearance preferences
[16:15] <nenu> can we change login window in 10.10
[16:15] <ravionrails> update manager not showing lucid,  i am on karmic want to update to lucid somebody help me,
[16:15] <coz_> Eighteens,   did he go into  Visual effects tab for that change?
[16:15] <chee> ∳
[16:15] <coz_> nenu,  sort of yes
[16:16] <Eighteens> goltoof, oops, i meant right clicked his desktop, change desktop background, then visual affects, then preferences
[16:16] <goltoof> hax...  sorry, i'm not savvy with making xpi files
[16:16] <wessel> can someone recommend me a simple drawing program?
[16:16] <nenu> coz_: can you help me
[16:16] <jubei> guys I installed ubuntu with wubi and because i'm in japan it made my interface in japanese so now I can't do anything :) I'd like to figure out what's the name of the windows partition so that I can delete it.
[16:16] <coz_> nenu,   yeah hold on one minute :)
[16:16] <goltoof> what's the command to disable visual effects via cli?
[16:16] <nenu> coz, sure
[16:17] <goltoof> wessel,    gimp
[16:17] <hax> goltoof: goltoof kk thanks enny how i will reply if i figer it out
[16:17] <Eighteens> coz_ sorry wasnt ignoring you, was trying to duplicate what he had done in another window
[16:17] <goltoof> wessel,     not simple, but all you'll ever need
[16:17] <coz_> nenu,     http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/GDM-NEW-MAVERICK
[16:17] <wessel> no, I don't want gimp
[16:17] <coz_> Eighteens, understood,, and I didnt feel ignored  :)
[16:17] <wessel> I want to do some simple pixel modifications
[16:17] <wessel> add text, change some lines
[16:17] <nenu> thanks
[16:17] <ravionrails> wessel, pinta
[16:17] <edbian> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition.  I have to enter my wifi password everytime I boot.  (I have auto-login setup though) how can I get Ubuntu to remember the password?  I can't find it in the gui anywhere.
[16:18] <goltoof> wessel,   hmm...    gimp.... gimp... and gimp   will accomplish all of those
[16:18] <coz_> nenu,  what that will do is allow you to change  the system theme  but it actually will only change the gdm log in screen since it is root
[16:18] <wessel> yes, but gimp is so damn hard to learn
[16:18] <Eighteens> think it was in after his checking the box in simple compizconfig settings manager
[16:18] <coz_> nenu,   there is also something called GDM2setup
[16:19] <wessel> E: Couldn't find package pinta
[16:19] <wessel> wessel@wegumar7 ~ $ sudo apt-get install pinta
[16:19] <ikonia> last nsahoo
[16:19] <nenu> coz, that crashed my firefox
[16:19] <coz_> nenu,  oh???
[16:19] <coz_> nenu,  hold on I will post it at pastebin
[16:20] <Lord_Rahl> Does anyone else have a problem with smbclient in 10.10? Like copying  a file to a windows share.  All i get is "Invalid argument"
[16:20] <coz_> nenu,     http://paste.ubuntu.com/530083/
[16:20] <jubei> here's the output from my fdisk -l command. I can't figure out which is which  codepad.org/QNLv9R9O
[16:20] <goltoof> wessel,   hard to learn, but powerful..  you'll be better off in the long run learning gimp
[16:20] <Eighteens> coz_, goltoof, all i know is he was really happy, now after checking that zoom option, the system threw him back to the login screen and he can't do anything after logging back in, just the wallpaper on the desktop, no menus, and after about 5 seconds it throws him back to login screen again
[16:21] <nenu> coz, anyways i downloaded that stuff
[16:21] <wessel> I doubt it goltoof
[16:21] <brontosaurusrex> where to disable window flying animation?
[16:21] <coz_> Eighteens,  can he get to text console?
[16:21] <Eighteens> coz_ but i was able to login his system, with the root user, really wierd, and it works fine in that users session
[16:21] <wessel> maybe some day an easier program will come to life
[16:22] <Eighteens> coz, no menu's, even tried alt-f2
[16:22] <wessel> I find it easier to manipulate pixels in Matlab, or java, then in gimp! :P
[16:22] <coz_> Eighteens,  ok as root user  hit  ctrl+alt+F1   if still root  type exit  and log in as user
[16:22] <edbian> wessel, You just haven't learned gimp yet.
[16:22] <coz_> Eighteens,   then run this command to reset gnome to defaults    sudo rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity   then restart X
[16:22] <nsahoo> ikonia: coz_: sorry I was trying to change some grub configurations and grub-update etc. So, I was away. do you have any suggestions?
[16:23] <coz_> nsahoo,  I havent found one no  sorry
[16:23] <edbian> wessel, It's a steep curve admittedly but there is no way it is 'harder' writing a java program to do that same thing.
[16:23] <goltoof> wessel,    i'm a graphic designer,  it took me a while to learn it but it pays off knowing a program that's as powerful as photoshop but without the cost
[16:23] <ravionrails> wessel, http://pinta-project.com/
[16:23] <wessel> ravionrails, yes, just installed pinta, testing now
[16:24] <ravionrails> ok
[16:24]  * dddw RL awaits
[16:24] <coz_> nenu,   also   http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/gdm2-setup-gets-new-look-and-ubuntu-ppa.html   if you want to try gdm2setup
[16:26] <kasi> hi. how come nvidia-detector doesn't find the card. lspci lists that I have a GeForce Go 6600
[16:26] <edbian> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition.  I have to enter my wifi password everytime I boot.  (I have auto-login setup though) how can I get Ubuntu to remember the password?  I can't find it in the gui anywhere.
[16:26] <nenu> coz, will give a try ,right now working with other issues, will test after that
[16:27] <julianoliver> how do i remove grub and have an autologin (no startx) with Ubuntu 10.04? I see that there's no /etc/innittab anymore..
[16:27] <julianoliver> s/grub/gdm/
[16:27] <julianoliver> ugh
[16:28] <edbian> julianoliver, sudo apt-get purge gdm
[16:29] <julianoliver> edbian: that's clear, but autologin?
[16:29] <julianoliver> this used to be done with /etc/innittab..
[16:29] <LadyNikon> i am getting the message /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so has crashed
[16:29] <LadyNikon> i reinstalled the plugin but its still not working
[16:29] <LadyNikon> anysuggestions
[16:30] <edbian> julianoliver, I believe that autologin in a feature of gdm.  If there is no GDM there is no autologin.
[16:30] <edbian> julianoliver, If you're nervous about it turn auto-logon off in the gui then remove gdm
[16:30] <ikonia> nsahoo: I'd be more concerned at why you have a broken install
[16:30] <julianoliver> edbian: on Debian (and older versions of Ubuntu) it was possible to setup autologin and calling startx in a shell script.
[16:30] <ikonia> nsahoo: your 10.10 install should not come with a .32 kernel, I would class your system as unstable/broke
[16:31] <julianoliver> edbian: you didn't need GDM to have this feature.
[16:31] <edbian> julianoliver, yeah.  Oh, you WANT auto-login.  I have no idea if inittab is missing
[16:31] <julianoliver> edbian: ok, cheers
[16:32] <edbian> julianoliver, sorry
[16:32] <julianoliver> np
[16:32] <Doug_S> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 recently, now I cannot log in. Unable to log in on main screen, or recovery mode. Any ideas?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Doug_S: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[16:33] <edbian> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 netbook edition.  I have to enter my wifi password everytime I boot.  (I have auto-login setup though) how can I get Ubuntu to remember the password?  I can't find it in the gui anywhere.
[16:33] <nenu> where can i find gdm2setup package
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Doug_S: then run:   passwd foo    replace foo with YOUR username, then run: reboot    you can now login as yourself
[16:33] <nenu> apt is not pulling it
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> edbian: http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-automati-logon-in-ubuntu-or-kubuntu.html
[16:34] <Doug_S> Where do I run that at? I'm new to Ubuntu.
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Doug_S: read what I said, it's step by step
[16:35] <stevecoh1> In Windows, there is a little add-on from Microsoft that allows you add a "Command Prompt Here" right-click menu option when viewing the file system with Explorer.  It has always seemed to me that this would be a very nice option for Linux, and much in the spirit of Linux.  But Nautilus does not support this.  Is there something that provides this capability?
[16:35] <edbian> ActionParsnip, please read my questions more carefully.  auto-login is working.  Remembering my wifi password is not working.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: you can get nautilus scripts for that
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> edbian: oic, then I suggest a blank keyring password
[16:36] <stevecoh1> ActionParsnip: great.  Can you please provide me with details?
[16:36] <llutz> stevecoh1: konqueror (f4) :)
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> edbian: it will then not bother you for one
[16:36] <adman> Hi, I stupdily shutdown the computer while it was booting up, and now everytime I boot i get the text-based startup instead of the nice splash screen. how can i get the graphical splash back?
[16:36] <edbian> ActionParsnip, Will it pop-up and I have to press enter?
[16:36] <stevecoh1> anything outside of konqueror?
[16:36] <edbian> stevecoh1, You should google nautilus scripts. :) there is much to learn
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-executing.php
[16:36] <cordoval_> hi where can I go to troubleshoot my mail on ubuntu, I am using nullmailer since I want to develop
[16:36] <llutz> stevecoh1: http://www.watchingthenet.com/add-open-command-prompt-here-functionality-to-nautilus-in-ubuntu.html
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> edbian: no, it won't bother you
[16:37] <edbian> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[16:37] <cordoval_> has anyone setup nullmailer before and got it working?
[16:37] <wessel> goltoof, can you link me to a simple gimp guide that shows how to edit some screenshot?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: you will need to install nautilus-actions (i think its that), then just drop scripts in the scripts folder and they will be accessible
[16:37] <wessel> or some other pixel image with text and lines
[16:37] <llutz> !info nautilus-open-terminal
[16:37] <llutz> stevecoh1: ^^
[16:37] <cordoval_> which is the channel for nullmailer or mailing related issues in ubuntu?
[16:37] <randomOfAmber> hello everyone
[16:38] <NikitaUtiu> hey
[16:38] <cordoval_> !info nullmailer
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> stevecoh1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nautilus_Scripts
[16:38] <cordoval_> !info mail in ubuntu
[16:38] <Lord_Rahl> Does anyone else have a problem with smbclient in 10.10? Like copying  a file to a windows share.  All i get is "Invalid argument"
[16:38] <cordoval_> !info  mail
[16:38] <cordoval_> !info mailer
[16:39] <cordoval_> !info help
[16:39] <Eighteens> coz_, and goltoof, hey guys thanks for your help earlier, it's working again, i'm very thankfull, and so is my son...
[16:39] <llutz> cordoval_: what are you looking for?
[16:39] <goltoof> wessel,    http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/
[16:39] <coz_> Eighteens,  cool
[16:39] <goltoof> wessel,    http://tutorialblog.org/gimp-tutorials/
[16:40] <wessel> but do you really think that gimp is also suited for simple tasks?
[16:40] <wessel> instead of making fancy pictures...
[16:40] <nenu> where do i get gdm2setup
[16:40] <cordoval_> IIlutz: I am looking for help or any information to troubleshoot my nullmailer mailing related , basically I have setup apache2 and run my php site, my php site emails @gmail.com type of emails so I need an exit outside that is why nullmailer, but it is not working
[16:40] <petan> wessel: gpaint
[16:40] <goltoof> wessel,   don't know of a tutorials specific to what you're asking... best thing is to find a tutorial closest to what you're trying to accomplish
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> wessel: there gpaint :)
[16:40] <wessel> simple tasks are like: crop an image
[16:40] <petan> wessel: simple and good
[16:40] <wessel> remove some text
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> petan: great minds eh ;)
[16:41] <stevecoh1> OMG, thanks guys.  How did I ever live without this?
[16:41] <goltoof> wessel,     i use it for everything, simple or not
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> wessel: use tuxpaint if you want a simple text editor with sound effects :)
[16:41] <cordoval_> IIlutz: also I want to issue from the console terminal a command like mail
[16:41] <cordoval_> but it does not work as expected
[16:41] <edbian> ActionParsnip, Thank you.  That worked.
[16:41] <coz_> wessel,  there are alternatives  Pinta  comes to mind...also imagemagick
[16:41] <llutz> cordoval_: have you checked logs for errors? install bsd-mailx  for mail-command
[16:41] <goltoof> wessel,    but by all means try other programs, maybe another will suit you better for what you do
[16:41] <cordoval_> I have been trying for weeks to make this work now. Hmmm
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> edbian: i always set blank password, it moans but then again you can link your password to pam and get the same effect
[16:41] <cordoval_> !info bsd-mailx
[16:42] <cordoval_> !info mail-command
[16:42] <coz_> wessel,  Pinta  is simple enough but has default plugins ...not too dissimilar to a low end photoshop
[16:42] <cordoval_> I think I must have mail command as it does something
[16:42] <Eighteens> coz_ that zoom option, in 'Simple CompizConfig Settings Manager > Accessibility, under Enable zoom, > Area zoom'  once unchecked, the system lets him access the desktop
[16:42] <llutz> cordoval_: bsd-mailx provides the "mail" command
[16:42] <edbian> What is the program called that runs in Ubuntu netbook edition on the left hand side?  Not the icons but the list of favorites and different app categories. (it's missing on my system after an update)
[16:42] <cordoval_> the problem is that mails get stuck on the queue when I do mailq I can see them stuck
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> edbian: unity
[16:42] <edbian> ActionParsnip, Thanks again!
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> np
[16:43] <llutz> cordoval_: have you checked logs for errors? /var/log/mail.err (.log)
[16:43] <coz_> Eighteens,  ah yes  that can cause issues if you press the wrong keybindings... yeah if disabled that's fine ...unless you really need zoom in which case I would use  magnifiyer plugin instead
[16:43] <cordoval_> Nov 11 11:37:31 cordoval-laptop nullmailer[986]: Sending failed:  Protocol error
[16:43] <coz_> Eighteens,   rather   magnifier plugin
[16:44] <Eighteens> yeah it wouldn't let him back in, but it's working again, and he's so happy, No school today, so it gave him a chance to mess things up, haha
[16:44] <cordoval_> and before
[16:44] <cordoval_> Nov 10 22:55:54 cordoval-laptop nullmailer[2509]: smtp: Failed: Connect failed
[16:44] <coz_> Eighteens,  :)    very cool
[16:44] <cordoval_> Nov 10 22:55:54 cordoval-laptop nullmailer[986]: Sending failed:  Host not found
[16:44] <Eighteens> time for father son bonding, hehe, i wanted to kick his butt for messing it up, but haha, i learned something too, anyway, thanks for your help
[16:45] <shane4ubuntu> is proposed updates considered alpha, beta, or RC?
[16:45] <cordoval_> but thanks at least now I have somewhere to look I did not know about /var/log/mail.err, I did know about /var/log/apache2/... and others, thanks for pointing me to the right direction
[16:45] <edbian> ActionParsnip, mmm, very odd.  It isn't there.  I tried to start it, it said it was already running.  I killed those processes (nothing happened). And tried to run it agian.  Still says it's already running.  It's def. not there.
[16:45] <cordoval_> IIlutz: I will clean the log and try again sending and see what the line is actually hold on
[16:45] <obfu> I'm looking for a way to connect to a serial port on my ubuntu machine through bluetooth.  I have been able to connect to an RFCOMM tty, but not to the serial port. I tried using socat, but that didn't work. It seems like rfcomm_sppd from BSD would do the trick, but I can't find a version compiled for ubuntu/debian. Anyone know where I could find this or a different solution?
[16:45] <llutz> cordoval_: whats the hostname configured in /etc/nullmailer/remotes?
[16:46] <cordoval_> smtp.gmail.com smtp --port=465<EMAIL_ADDRESS>--pass=XXXXX
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> obfu: tried searching the ppas?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | obfu
[16:46] <Eighteens> this may sound funnny, but is there anyway to put ubuntu on a smartphone
[16:46] <cordoval_> smtp.gmail.com smtp --port=587<EMAIL_ADDRESS>--pass=XXXXX
[16:46] <cordoval_> I have tried both
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Eighteens: ive seen it on some phones
[16:47] <cordoval_> IIlutz: at first  I was trying smtp.gmail.com smtp --port=587
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Eighteens: http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/07/smartphones-to-get-mobile-flavor-of-ubuntu-linux/
[16:47] <cordoval_> but then after some missleading reading I tried the other port
[16:47] <obfu> ActionParsnip: yeah, nothing even just for rfcomm
[16:47] <Eighteens> ActionParsnip, i saw a linux phone, i about drooled all over my keyboard, just wondering... thanks for the reply
[16:47] <nenu> is there any free alert app that alerts on iphone for nagios monitoring
[16:47] <edbian> Eighteens, android is linux
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Eighteens: what edbian said :)
[16:48] <Eighteens> edbian, i have a droidX and after hearing google apps could take root, i got scared
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Eighteens: also samsung have a 100% opensource phone but its a bit crappy
[16:48] <Eighteens> oh if you have a droidx don't download Angry Birds
[16:49] <edbian> Eighteens, Don't install those apps?  (I find it unlikely that they can become root without asking you for the root password)
[16:49] <akashj87> can anyone tell me the steps for installing vmware 7.1.2 in 10.10 X64
[16:49] <kerin> i'm trying to update > upgrade my old server running 8.10, and after switching my /etc/apt/sources.list to the old-releases.ubuntu.com repo and doing an apt-get upgrade i get a lot of 404 not found errors, even after running apt-get update.  anyone know what to do?
[16:49] <Eighteens> ActionParsnip would you mind pm'n me that link again, my scrollback buffer is small, i can't see your link anymore, thanks man
[16:49] <Eighteens> or just repaste it
[16:49] <shane4ubuntu> with the repositories, and updates, there is backports, and proposed, how 'dangerous' or 'risky' is proposed considered to be?
[16:49] <llutz> cordoval_: are you sure nullmailer supports TLS and smtp-auth?
[16:49] <Eighteens> ActionParsnip, thank you sir!
[16:50] <Pici> shane4ubuntu: Packages are put into proposed for testing before they drop into -updates.  So.. I'd tread that as somewhere between beta and RC.
[16:50] <cordoval_> I was told that by the httpd guys, they are ferocious
[16:50] <llutz> cordoval_: maybe this thelps http://jonspriggs.posterous.com/use-gmails-smtp-gateway-using-the-command-lin
[16:50] <llutz> helps*
[16:51] <gsr> Because of incompatibility issues with my video driver, to use compiz I have to use libdecoration1:8.4, instead of the current latest version in apt, libdecoration1:8.6.  Is there a way to flag libdecoration not to update automatically, when I use apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[16:51] <shane4ubuntu> Pici, ok, thanks!  I'm having major problems with Evolution, so think I'm going to install the proposed update, don't think it could get worse.
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> !pin | gsr
[16:51] <karthick87> How to add a Factoid database to my bot..?
[16:51] <cordoval_> how can I find if nullmailer supports TLS and smtp auth? I think it should otherwise it would not be as popular, it would be useless, ok checking the information now
[16:51] <llutz> cordoval_: if nothing works, i'd go with ssmtp http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/send-mail-with-gmail-and-ssmtp/
[16:51] <gsr> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: i know how to add one to ubottu....if thats what you want
[16:52] <akashj87> Installation Failed VMware Workstation v7 1 2 301548 Linux x64
[16:52] <akashj87> In the installation procedure, it asks for whether to save the configuration files or not.
[16:52] <akashj87> Whatever i choose, it shows for a second "De-configuring", and then says Installation Failed.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> !vmware | akashj87
[16:53] <llutz> cordoval_: " apt-cache depends nullmailer"   nothing about tls etc.
[16:53] <akashj87> ActionParsnip : I downloaded it from the net.
[16:53] <cordoval_> IIutz: hmmm
[16:54] <goltoof> akashj87,    virtualbox
[16:54] <llutz> cordoval_: as i said, i'd go with ssmtp. simple to setup and works fine http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/send-mail-with-gmail-and-ssmtp/
[16:54] <akashj87> ok, i wasted so much time getting it :(
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> akashj87: the guide will tell you how to install it, i recommend virtualbox myself, it is in the repos so can be installed like any other package
[16:55] <akashj87> i see, ty ActionParsnip and goltoof
[16:55] <goltoof> akashj87,    you're not the only one here who spent a lot of time doing something futile   :)
[16:56] <cordoval_> I had already seen http://jonspriggs.posterous.com/use-gmails-smtp-gateway-using-the-command-lin    ... I will go for the latter link
[16:56] <cordoval_> I will switch to ssmtp
[16:56] <akashj87> in the forums they say about some patch things , its not mentioned anywhere that it wont install on ubuntu
[16:56] <cordoval_> http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/send-mail-with-gmail-and-ssmtp/
[16:56] <cordoval_> trying now...
[16:56] <FloodBot2> cordoval_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <llutz> cordoval_: i guess its easier and doesn't need additional stuff like xinetd as in the 1st URL i gave you
[16:58] <cordoval_> yes right
[16:59] <max> hi
[17:00] <akashj87> can anyone tell me any good browser integration like roboform, which also work offline ?
[17:00] <drichardson> Hello everybody!
[17:01] <Guest68306> hi drichardson
[17:01] <karthick87> ActionParsnip, there..?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> akashj87: which browser, roboform seems to simply remember password
[17:01] <vivek312> i want to install all packages from one folder, how can  i install them?
[17:02] <eddieamrit> .invite
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: huh?
[17:02] <llutz> vivek312: sudo dpkg -i /folder/*deb
[17:02] <karthick87> ActionParsnip, asked you on how to add a factoid
[17:02] <akashj87> ActionParsnip : I have just started using linux. On windows i have roboform which integrates well with firefox. Any similar like that ? Keepassx dont have browser integration.
[17:02] <vivek312> can anyone help?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: oic, use:  /msg ubottu thing is descriptio
[17:03] <karthick87> vivel312: sudo dpkg -i *
[17:03] <karthick87> vivek312: sudo dpkg -i *
[17:03] <Guest68306> ask ! vivek312
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: e.g.  /msg ubottu !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage!
[17:04] <karthick87> !beer
[17:04] <vivek312> karthick87 : i am not getting..
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> akashj87: https://addons.mozilla.org
[17:04] <petan> vivek312: do it in terminal
[17:05] <vivek312> Thanks all..
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> akashj87: the browser remembers passwords for you anyway
[17:05] <llutz> vivek312: sudo dpkg -i /folder/*.deb         why don't you read your answers?
[17:05] <Aufwind> I have a python script, tor (vidala) installed and I want to retrieve a webpage through the tor network by httplib by calling the skript by terminal. Is this possible?
[17:05] <karthick87> get into your directory containing the packages and then enter that command
[17:05] <Guest68306> Aufwind, tor simply sucks.. :)
[17:06] <karthick87> ActionParsnip, can i add ubottu Factoids database to my bot..?
[17:06] <Aufwind> Guest68306: I need an IP changer. Can you suggest something else?
[17:06] <akashj87> ActionParsnip : it will only remember one for a particular site. what if i have multiple ?
[17:06] <sosaited> I have added Banshee to the sound indicator/control in Maverick, but I the controls there doesn't work, neither does it show the song being played.
[17:06] <goltoof> maybe off topic..  is there a way to stack irc chat windows?  1x2, 2x2?
[17:06] <ikonia> goltoof: what client ?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> karthick87: it's at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[17:07] <goltoof> and what's the consensus on a good terminal based irc
[17:07] <carlos_> eps
[17:07] <goltoof> ikonia,   xchat
[17:07] <Guest68306> Aufwind, write the question to the screen.. i or other can help up accordingly... :)