[12:00] <steamR> Ninja562: matter of taste only. In embedded movies, you will hardly notice the diff
[12:00] <Ninja562> steamR: who is plf ?
[12:01] <steamR> PenguinLiberationFoundation
[12:01] <steamR> a repository
[12:01] <POVaddct> steamR: PenguinLibrationFront
[12:01] <talisein> MonsieurBon: try "which aticonfig"
[12:01] <talisein> tell me if that gives you any output
[12:01] <Ninja562> Liberate those Penguins (I had no idea they were repressed)
[12:02] <steamR> POVaddct: sorry :-)
[12:02] <MonsieurBon> talisein: /usr/bin/aticonfig
[12:02] <menko> hi, I want to install ubuntu with an english interface, but with a japanese input method. Can this be specified during the install?
[12:02] <talisein> aticonfig --initial=dual-head --tvf=<TV standard> --tvs=VIDEO --hsync2=<TV hsync> --vrefresh2=<TV vrefresh> --iagp=off --agpl=off --ovon=1 -v
[12:02] <bluefox83> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27040/
[12:02] <talisein> fill in the stuff in the <>'s, and that should generate an xorg.conf that will work
[12:03] <talisein> taken from http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out#ATI-proprietary-drivers but should work for ubuntu too
[12:03] <talisein> !tvout
[12:03] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[12:03] <POVaddct> bluefox83: line 023 looks strange
[12:03] <talisein> ubotu, learn about ATI will ya? ;P
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about learn about ATI will ya? ;P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <MonsieurBon> talisein: thanks, how do i get the stuff in the <>'s?
[12:04] <bluefox83> POVaddct, yeah, i pasted it wrong
[12:04] <POVaddct> bluefox83: and the line with misc fonts is missing
[12:04] <globe> Is there a way to run a remote xwindows session?
[12:04] <bluefox83> POVaddct, i removed it cus it said it couldn't locate them
[12:05] <POVaddct> bluefox83: the misc fonts are mandatory
[12:05] <talisein> MonsieurBon: dunno. If you're in america, then tv standard is ntsc-m, hsync might be 30-81 vrefresh maybe 56-88
[12:05] <MonsieurBon> talisein: I'm in europe. TV Standard would be PAL, i think, right?
[12:05] <wolfbane_691> hello every 1
[12:05] <talisein> which country?
[12:06] <MonsieurBon> talisein: Switzerland
[12:06] <talisein> PAL-G
[12:06] <wolfbane_691> i have a problem with my hard drive can some 1 help
[12:06] <Ninja562> steamR: PLF has mandrake packages, OK 2 use with Dapper?
[12:06] <talisein> wolfbane_691: what's the problem?
[12:06] <wolfbane_691> lol
[12:06] <globe> wolfbane_691: what is your problem
[12:06] <wolfbane_691> im on linux
[12:06] <talisein> that's not your problem
[12:06] <SurfnKid> wolfbane_691, bang it, if you hear things moving inside, it worked
[12:06] <MonsieurBon> talisein: can I find out the rest somehow?
[12:07] <SurfnKid> :P
[12:07] <talisein> MonsieurBon: google ATI TV-Out HOWTO
[12:07] <wolfbane_691> well its mounted but when i try to move a file in there it wont let me
[12:07] <globe> wolfbane_691: is it mounted readonly?
[12:07] <wolfbane_691> it says i dont have access
[12:08] <talisein> wolfbane_691: use sudo
[12:08] <wolfbane_691> did i mention im a complete noob to linux
[12:08] <talisein> wolfbane_691: whatever command you did that resulted in your not having access, prepend sudo to it
[12:09] <globe> wolfbane_691: are you doing this on a terminal (typing) or in the windows-like environment?
[12:09] <talisein> yeah that's important i guess
[12:09] <wolfbane_691> ok
[12:09] <superm1> I was a bit curious about the webspace that I see people having at people.ubuntu.com.  is this available only to those employed by canonical?  or to ubuntu members?  or what?
[12:09] <wolfbane_691> what command line do i use
[12:10] <LjL> superm1: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[12:10] <superm1> LjL, Thx.  wasn't sure whree best to ask
[12:10] <Gnomer__> mnepton isn't here...Depressing.
[12:11] <wolfbane_691> im in disk manager and partitions
[12:11] <wolfbane_691> what do i put in for access path
[12:11] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, where do you want the drive to be located (When you try to view it?)
[12:11] <wolfbane_691> home folder
[12:11] <bluefox83> how do you get the bus id for your video card?
[12:12] <bluefox83> i think that is the problem...
[12:12] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, so create a folder in your home folder
[12:12] <POVaddct> bluefox83: lspci
[12:12] <Gnomer__> mkdir ~/slave
[12:12] <Gnomer__> And use /home/youruser/slave
[12:12] <POVaddct> bluefox83: you can comment out the bus id as well
[12:12] <Gnomer__> As the access point.
[12:12] <wolfbane_691> ok
[12:13] <bluefox83> POVaddct, 0000:02:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]  (rev a3   would be what?
[12:13] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, I would tell you to just use /home/, but that would make bad things happen to you and small children.
[12:13] <Adammk> i need help restoring default Login window settings, i'm in recovery mode since it won't let me log in normally at all. how do do i do this? is there and where is a config file i could edit?
[12:14] <POVaddct> bluefox83: yes. the bus id is 0:2:f. but you can omit the bus id in xorg.conf if there is only one card
[12:14] <talisein> Adammk: try "mv /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf.old" and then "aptitude reinstall gdm"
[12:14] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx
[12:14] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, anytime.
[12:14] <Ninja562> Is there somewhere else besides PLF I can get video player software ?
[12:15] <Gnomer__> Ninja562, you're talkin' about codecs?  I only use 3.
[12:15] <Gnomer__> Mplayer, Totem, and VLC
[12:15] <Ninja562> OK, how 2 install Mplyer?
[12:16] <Gnomer__> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:16] <BDerwent> can someone tell me how to change the recovery mode login to the dvorak layout?
[12:16] <POVaddct> Ninja562: enable multiverse repository and then sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:16] <Gnomer__> Or get automatix if you need the firefox extension, plus more fun.
[12:16] <harisund> Hello! I was just wondering, what does the term "upstream" mean? I see it so often in the Ubuntu wiki.. people talk about patches before making it to upstream.. what are they referring to?
[12:16] <Adammk> ok booting back up...
[12:17] <talisein> harisund: ubuntu maintainers don't usually write the software themselves. Upstream is where the software actually comes from.
[12:17] <HumanPrototype> what wireless drivers are installed in dapper by default?
[12:17] <harisund> talisein, so who maintains 'upstream' ? Or what is the role of the ubuntu maintainers?
[12:17] <talisein> harisund: like GNOME, for instance, comes from gnome.org.
[12:17] <superm1> harisund, upstream means the original developers.  Say for example during an upstream version freeze, we can't pull new versions.  But we can pull debian revisions of the same version
[12:17] <LjL> harisund: by "upstream" we mean the various actual developers of the various actual software programs
[12:18] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: many :) madwifi, rt2500, rt2570, ipw2100, ipw2200, ipw3945, prism54, bcm43xx, ...
[12:18] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, you have to install them yourself..At least I did.
[12:18] <talisein> harisund: ubuntu maintainers take a package from upstream and "package" it for ubuntu, and make sure that one specific version plays nice with everything else in ubuntu
[12:18] <harisund> ah .. thanks talisein, superm1 and LjL ..
[12:18] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, madwifi is outdated, use madwifi-ng
[12:18] <Adammk> ok i'm able to log in, but the GUI is gone. it's just the terminal.
[12:18] <Gnomer__> They stopped development on the original.
[12:18] <talisein> harisund: upstream can also refer to Debian, as ubuntu pulls its packages from the debian distro
[12:18] <harisund> talisein, and after making sure of that, they send it to the Ubuntu repositories?
[12:18] <talisein> harisund: yes
[12:18] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: i think is it madwifi-ng anyway
[12:19] <harisund> talisein, ah! revelation! thanks ..
[12:19] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, you have to download and compile madwifi-ng
[12:19] <Adammk> how do i get back into the GNOME GUI?
[12:19] <Gnomer__> Or, at least it wasn't in any of my repositories (sp?)
[12:19] <talisein> Adammk: Ctrl-alt-F7
[12:19] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: okay. btw, so far old madwifi works for me. also in monitor and master mode.
[12:19] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, meh, if it works for you more power to ya.
[12:19] <Gnomer__> ;)
[12:20] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, can you create VAPs with madwifi? (The origninal)
[12:20] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: i don't need the new features of madwifi-ng. i dont have to run multiple virtual APs
[12:20] <Adammk> didn't do anything. i disable keyboard shortcuts in System>Preferences bacause i had some probs
[12:20] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, is there a way to find which driver i need
[12:20] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, what kind of card do you have?
[12:21] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: identify your card's chipset
[12:21] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, its in an acer laptop
[12:21] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: built-in?
[12:21] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, yes, lspci = atheros comms AR5005g
[12:22] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: try madwifi
[12:22] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, so atheros is your chipset
[12:22] <Gnomer__> You need madwifi/-ng, either works.
[12:22] <Adammk> talisein it didn't do anything. i had to disable all shortcuts in System>Preferences cause of probs
[12:22] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: though i don't know if this particular atheros chipset is supported
[12:22] <Gnomer__> Lemme check
[12:23] <bluefox83> POVaddct, what is this -> FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[12:23] <Pinkle_Rose> hi
[12:23] <POVaddct> bluefox83: that's only a warning, no error
[12:23] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, there is no madwifi package but its referenced by xen-restricted modules and linux-restricted...
[12:23] <bluefox83> POVaddct, well right now that is all i am getting, and X still wont start
[12:23] <Pinkle_Rose> anyone know how to turn-on visualizations in amarok on dapper?
[12:23] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: madwifi should be installed by default
[12:24] <talisein> Adammk: what is the error that is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:24] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, its a server install
[12:24] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, "not working with version 0.9.2, dmesg reports: "unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)""
[12:24] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: ah, i see
[12:24] <Pinkle_Rose> in forum i found info to compile 0.4.0 but it doesnt work
[12:24] <Gnomer__> POVaddct, he needs to use Madwifi-ng..:P
[12:25] <bluefox83> POVaddct, how do i fix the security policy file then?
[12:25] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, how would i obtain that?
[12:25] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: thats a real reason for -ng  :)
[12:25] <Gnomer__> "not working with version 0.9.2, dmesg reports: "unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13)"" and then under that "I can confirm that this chipset works great with the madwifi-ng drivers on Debian Testing. Also monitor mode."
[12:26] <POVaddct> bluefox83: the security policy file message is also non-fatal. there must be another reason for Xorg not running.
[12:26] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, go to the madwifi site and look for it's download link.
[12:27] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, http://snapshots.madwifi.org/madwifi-ng/
[12:27] <globe> is there a way to get a remote x windows session to my ubuntu from winxp?
[12:27] <POVaddct> bluefox83: i just checked, i get this message here and my X is running
[12:27] <Adammk> there shouldn't be any error. i was just looking at settings for the login window, changed two things to 'Chooser' under 'Configure X Server' because i thought that would change it to a thing like in windows xp where u choose ur user name and then type ur password, but i seemed to have changed it to a kind of network login thing, and can't figure out how to log back in locally to change it back
[12:27] <bluefox83> POVaddct, could it be because i am trying to start gdm from terminal?
[12:27] <Gnomer__> globe, whats wrong with VNC?
[12:28] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, ah the sweet smell of fresh code
[12:28] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, my thanks to you
[12:28] <POVaddct> bluefox83: from what terminal?
[12:28] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, don't forget POVaddct :P
[12:28] <bluefox83> POVaddct, ssh
[12:28] <HumanPrototype> POVaddct, thank you very much for your help
[12:28] <talisein> Adammk: the config file you want is /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:28] <joeCoT> globe: system: preferences: remote desktop. Enable it
[12:28] <bluefox83> POVaddct, i ssh'd into my friend's system to fix his xorg.conf
[12:28] <Adammk> how do i edit it and fix it?
[12:28] <joeCoT> globe: but i recommend just using vnc
[12:28] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, You'll love -ng because you can create VAP
[12:28] <Gnomer__> :D
[12:28] <POVaddct> bluefox83: should be no problem
[12:28] <javaJake> Hey guys!
[12:28] <bluefox83> only i don't think the resolutions he wanted to use are supported
[12:29] <javaJake> I was wondering, how do I use "read -t" in sh?
[12:29] <POVaddct> HumanPrototype: you're welcome
[12:29] <globe> okay thanks...i'll look it up thanks
[12:29] <javaJake> I am attempting to use this as a startup script, but when it times out the program quits
[12:29] <javaJake> Doesn't do anything
[12:29] <javaJake> After the read
[12:29] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, now to enjoy a nice command line install...
[12:29] <javaJake> Any ideas?
[12:29] <Ninja562> Hello, I upgraded to Dapper, but my Synaptic manger still says Hoary, WtH?
[12:29] <Adammk> talisein whats the command to edit the .conf file?
[12:29] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, My favorite kind ;)
[12:30] <talisein> Adammk: you probably want to use nano if you don't want to use vim
[12:30] <bluefox83> POVaddct, how do you check remotely to see if X is running?
[12:30] <Gnomer__> Man, it feels like it's midnight, and it's only 5:30
[12:30] <POVaddct> bluefox83: "pidof X" or "pidof Xorg" should return a process id (number) if it is running
[12:31] <joeCoT> Gnomer__ : i'm sure it's midnight _somewhere_ :)
[12:31] <LjL> midnight and a half here
[12:31] <Gnomer__> joeCoT, :p
[12:31] <wolfbane_691> im haveing a lil trouble with ymessenger for linux
[12:31] <POVaddct> Gnomer__: it's 0:31 here
[12:31] <mikm[laptop] > Not really, unless there's GMT -0030
[12:31] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, use gaim.
[12:31] <ryanpg> I'm experiencing badness with grub... can't boot new kernels
[12:31] <bluefox83> POVaddct, "pidof X" returns a number, but "pidof Xorg" does not...
[12:31] <wolfbane_691> is there any diffrence between the 2
[12:32] <wolfbane_691> ?
[12:32] <Pinkle_Rose> anyone know how to turn-on visualizations in amarok on dapper?
[12:32] <POVaddct> bluefox83: so X _is_ running
[12:32] <joeCoT> time to check the zone.tab ...
[12:32] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, plenty. I just think Gaim is better.
[12:32] <wolfbane_691> i dont too much like it
[12:32] <Gnomer__> I can handle all the messengers, instead of just the one. And do so at the same time.
[12:32] <Gnomer__> It*
[12:32] <ryanpg> currently / is mounted on /dev/.static/dev/hdc3 but when I put that in my menu.lst I get an error saying the partition isn't valid
[12:32] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, well, whats the problem?
[12:32] <POVaddct> bluefox83: if your friend's display remains black, it probably can't handle the resolution and/or frequency
[12:33] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, will I need linux-source?
[12:33] <wolfbane_691> its not installing when ever i click on it
[12:33] <bluefox83> POVaddct, we got it, thanks :)
[12:33] <LjL> mikm[laptop] : some places *do* have half-a-hour (or even stranger) shifts relative to the nearest standard timezone. wouldn't know if that applied anywhere near GMT, though
[12:33] <POVaddct> bluefox83: cool :)
[12:33] <ryanpg> the only kernel that boots for me has root=UUID=b6440937-c568-449b-b037-d591e88a081d in it's grub conf
[12:33] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, from the "add aplications" or synaptic?
[12:33] <POVaddct> bluefox83: what was it?
[12:33] <wolfbane_691> it says log in as root but how do i do that
[12:33] <bluefox83> POVaddct, unsupported resolution
[12:33] <Gnomer__> HumanPrototype, I'm not going to lie, it's been a while since I installed it.
[12:33] <wolfbane_691> in the terminal
[12:33] <POVaddct> bluefox83: ah okay
[12:34] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, do "sudo apt-get install whattoinstallhere"
[12:34] <bluefox83> POVaddct, he's using a nvidia card and the default NV driver
[12:34] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, thanks
[12:34] <POVaddct> bluefox83: yeah, i saw it in the xorg.conf file
[12:34] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, "sudo" is the way to do things as root in linux without logging in as root, and by default your user in ubuntu is already in the sudoers file. That shouldn't be a problem.
[12:35] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, just remember, sudo is your best friend..Or at least it's mine.
[12:35] <POVaddct> bluefox83: i tend to use conversative defaults in xorg.conf and then try higher values
[12:35] <StillANoob> Hey everyone!  Quick question:
[12:35] <StillANoob> I'm doing an ls -R | grep \.avi
[12:35] <Gnomer__> StillANoob, rather then saying you have a question, perhaps you should ask it.
[12:36] <bluefox83> POVaddct, i didn't realise my values were not supported by the default nv driver or i woulda never put them into his config file :D
[12:36] <StillANoob> how do I get ls (or other command) to list the full path to the file?
[12:36] <StillANoob> i've tried -l, -a - I can't figure it out
[12:36] <Adammk> can someone plz go to their /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf and paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ so i can fix my conf file? preferably some1 who's not changed any 'Login window' settings
[12:36] <POVaddct> bluefox83: not supported by the driver or by the display? (i suspect the latter is the case)
[12:37] <talisein> StillANoob: pwd will tell you the full path to the directory you are in
[12:37] <StillANoob> i'm doing an ls piped to grep
[12:37] <StillANoob> so I can't do a pwd
[12:37] <StillANoob> ls -R | grep \.avi
[12:37] <StillANoob> to find all avi files in a directory
[12:37] <StillANoob> i get a list - but it doesn't tell me where in the heirarchy they are
[12:37] <wolfbane_691> ok thanx
[12:38] <POVaddct> StillANoob: use this: find . -name "*.avi"
[12:38] <wolfbane_691> thats it for my dumb questions for the day
[12:38] <wolfbane_691> thanx for the help
[12:38] <Gnomer__> wolfbane_691, feel free to ask more if you need help
[12:38] <wolfbane_691> will do
[12:38] <Gnomer__> ;)
[12:38] <Adammk> plz?
[12:39] <StillANoob> looks like it might work - cept I don't see a recursive flag?
[12:39] <talisein> find is recursive on its own
[12:39] <StillANoob> or is it recursive and the . is the directory I'm starting in
[12:39] <talisein> yes
[12:40] <StillANoob> hrm...
[12:40] <Adammk> oh well i guess i'll just reinstall ubuntu again and ask before i change System>Administration settings
[12:40] <StillANoob> that was it
[12:40] <StillANoob> thanks a lot talisein
[12:40] <StillANoob> !!!
[12:40] <POVaddct> Adammk: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:29577/
[12:41] <HumanPrototype> how do i find the vga option to set my console to a higher res
[12:41] <BDerwent> somebody please tell me how to change the recovery mode settings to the dvorak layout
[12:41] <POVaddct> Adammk: that is the default gdm config from xubuntu
[12:41] <Adammk> thanks hopefully this doesn't take longer than reinstalling ubuntu
[12:41] <jasper`> Adammk, how did the network go?
[12:43] <POVaddct> Adammk: downloaded all files? so i can stop the http server
[12:43] <Adammk> ya
[12:43] <POVaddct> Adammk: okay
[12:44] <AngryElf> does ubuntu have support for UPS? -- i.e. automatic shutdown when the power cuts out?
[12:45] <DieSphin2> Experincia com algum cliente de oracle, no linux?
[12:45] <AngryElf> hmm, google answered that -- how about this.....is it any good?
[12:45] <DieSphin2> Oops, sorry, wrong channel
[12:45] <Adammk> jasper i reinstalled ubuntu and got the network working. i thought i'd be eaiser than doing a ton of commands i don't understand and bothering everyone on this channel. maybe i'll do the same if this doesn't work for the login window
[12:45] <DieSphin2> Anyway, anyone with experience with an oracle client in linux? Just need a hint.....
[12:46] <timmow> help! I just installed edgy, and now can't modprobe dm-mod or get lvm2 working at all
[12:46] <timmow> and my home dir is in lvm2
[12:48] <kupesoft> how do I check if I can use my modem with hylafax?
[12:49] <Adammk> YES it worked. now i can fix it.
[12:50] <Adammk> talisein: I only have 1 question: did "aptitude reinstall gdm" hurt anything since it wasn't the problem? (at least i think it wasn't)
[12:50] <globe> Gnomer__: about running vnc...I am running a headless machine, I don't want to have to login to x in order to get remote access (kind of defeats the purpose)
[12:51] <globe> Gnomer__ : is there a way to get the vnc server started w/o starting x?
[12:51] <talisein> Adammk: it shouldn't have
[12:51] <Maxilein> Hallo!
[12:51] <Werokh> got a question, hopefully somebody knows. In this doc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500, section 2.1, how would you do that without a gui? like, what files do I edit?
[12:52] <illuvator> join #beryl
[12:52] <illuvator> #beryl
[12:52] <illuvator> quit
[12:52] <HumanPrototype> Gnomer__, thanks once again
[12:52] <LjL> illuvator: commands on IRC must be prefixed with a slash ( / )
[12:52] <InnerFIRE> anyone use synce?
[12:53] <globe> LjL: i think he quit ;-)
[12:53] <kitche> ah it works with that slash as well :)
[12:53] <LjL> InnerFIRE: i would, if it worked
[12:53] <LjL> globe: ... and then joined again
[12:53] <InnerFIRE> so you have tried configuring it?
[12:53] <InnerFIRE> you still may be able to help me
[12:54] <LjL> InnerFIRE: not really, i just installed synce-kde and hoped it worked, which it didn't
[12:54] <Werokh> maybe there's just a command i'm missing, is there a command to "activate" a wlan connection?
[12:54] <InnerFIRE> there are a ton of other things you have to download and configure
[12:54] <InnerFIRE> it works.. just not with some devices i think
[12:54] <InnerFIRE> also..
[12:54] <Adammk> POVaddct: sry, but can u bring back up that http server i didn't get ALL the files, and now i think i need them
[12:55] <Dario> alo, i have an old laptop with maybe 512 memory (maybe even 256). would it take a long time to boot ubuntu from cd for the 1st time?
[12:55] <Sleeping_Sloth> evening all.
[12:55] <InnerFIRE> if you have a device running ce 05
[12:55] <InnerFIRE> its more difficult
[12:55] <illuvator> lJl: yeah sorry had typed too quickly without thinking
[12:55] <Sleeping_Sloth> I've been out of the loop or a while- is there any news on flash for dapper64?
[12:55] <ppj1010> guys
[12:56] <ppj1010> the vooodoo driver is called voodoo right
[12:56] <LjL> InnerFIRE, in theory, at least with my PocketPC2002 device, it should Just Work. which it did, at some stage, sometimes, when i was on Debian
[12:56] <ppj1010> thats it
[12:56] <InnerFIRE> k
[12:57] <InnerFIRE> i feel like the #synce channel should be more active lol
[12:57] <InnerFIRE> and linux, all distros should start catering more to business's i feel
[12:58] <ppj1010> .
[01:00] <cpk2> Werokh: you tried sudo ifup wlan0
[01:01] <J-_> will xubuntu work fine with an apache LAMP server?
[01:02] <cpk2> J-_: of course
[01:02] <J-_> k
[01:02] <AsheD> is there a best way to rename directories via the terminal?
[01:02] <J-_> thanks
[01:02] <cpk2> J-_: you dont even need X for lamp
[01:03] <cbo> AsheD mv <old name> <new name>
[01:03] <AsheD> figured
[01:04] <ClayG> does anyone off hand know where the setting is to make thunderbird automatically "top post" instead of "bottom post" to replies?  I have looked through prefs and i would think it would be in the composition tab but i cant find it anywhere.
[01:06] <cbo> ClayG look in account settings.
[01:07] <ClayG> hmmm i never thought of that
[01:07] <ClayG> cbo, THANKS
[01:07] <BDerwent> someone please tell me how to quit x "ctl + alt + backspace doesn't work"
[01:08] <BDerwent> or ctl + alt + f1 - f6
[01:08] <hondje> BDerwent: in a terminal, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop perhaps
[01:09] <BDerwent> alright, here goes
[01:09] <Flyoc> Hi, I have a problem with a fresh Dapper install, I can't install libgtk2 for some reason.
[01:10] <InnerFIRE> anyone know what libslang is and where i can get it?
[01:11] <hondje> InnerFIRE: the package is libslang2
[01:11] <Flyoc> so I cant really install any wm
[01:12] <cbo> Flyoc errors?
[01:13] <Flyoc> cbo: libgtk2.0-0: Depends: libgtk2.0-bin (>= 2.8.6-0ubuntu2.1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:13] <Flyoc> cbo: and the same with libpango
[01:13] <BDerwent> well that didn't work.  it did the same thing as ctl + alt + backspace (blank screen, accepts no input)
[01:14] <InnerFIRE> is it in synaptic?
[01:14] <pvt_harv> hi there
[01:14] <cbo> Flyoc what happens if you try to install libgtk2.0-bin ?
[01:14] <eedge> What's a good torrent client, apart from azureus?
[01:15] <Flyoc> cbo: libgtk2.0-bin: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
[01:15] <Flyoc> I just don't get it
[01:15] <BDerwent> bittornado
[01:15] <cpk2> eedge: azureus is nice but the only problem is its a little behind in the repos =)
[01:15] <cpk2> gnome has its own bt client i thought
[01:15] <pvt_harv> yes
[01:17] <BDerwent> let me ask again...is there a way to quit x and go to a terminal screen that doesn't freeze everythitg?
[01:17] <A[D] minS> Nighty all
[01:17] <BDerwent> *everything
[01:18] <InnerFIRE> what is this..
[01:18] <InnerFIRE> src/Makefile.am:4: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'
[01:18] <InnerFIRE> tests/CeRapiInvoke/Makefile.am:2: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'
[01:18] <InnerFIRE> tests/rapi/Makefile.am:2: invalid unused variable name: `AM_LDFLAGS'
[01:18] <lufis> When there's a brown-out, my DSL modem immediately goes off and resets the connection. Something between Ubuntu and the modem doesn't get sync'ed right and I can't access the interweb until I restart. Is there an alternative method?
[01:18] <cbo> Flyoc are you using apt-get or synaptic?
[01:19] <LoRez> lufis: get a UPS?
[01:19] <cpk2> lufis: maybe bringing the interface down then up?
[01:19] <antigroove> how do you do that, cpk2?
[01:19] <lufis> cpk2: Bringing the what to the what? :P
[01:20] <no0tic> Hi, I need to create a 256MB ramdisk, how can I do?
[01:20] <cpk2> assuming you are connected to the dsl modem via eth0 it would be sudo ifdown eth0
[01:20] <cpk2> then sudo ifup eth0
[01:20] <antigroove> System->Administration->Networking?
[01:20] <lufis> cpk2: Ah, thanks
[01:20] <lufis> cpk2: I'll try that next time
[01:20] <aixing> BDerwent: yes there is
[01:21] <SnowLprd> lufis: connecting your DSL modem to a UPS device will also help a lot
[01:21] <lufis> antigroove: I thought that deactivating/activating the connection in the Networking pref's would make Ubuntu re-recognize the modem but it won't
[01:21] <SnowLprd> That's how I have it set up here
[01:21] <lufis> SnowLprd: Thanks, I'll keep that in mind
[01:21] <joe_> lufis: does restarting networking do it?
[01:21] <antigroove> lufis: ahhh, ok.  good to know.
[01:22] <BDerwent> aixing, please explain
[01:22] <lufis> joo_Where is that?
[01:22] <aixing> you need to type init 1; init 2 in terminal
[01:22] <cpk2> lufis: hrmm then ifdown/ifup might not work since i think thats the same as stopping starting in the gui?
[01:22] <aixing> that should close x and take you to term only
[01:23] <aixing> when you are done init 2 should take u back in
[01:23] <lufis> cpk2: I dunno. The strange thing is, when I activate/deactivate via GUI the modem seems to begin to respond, but I still can't connect to anything.
[01:23] <BDerwent> alright, here goes
[01:23] <paco_> hola
[01:23] <cpk2> lufis: you mean after you do that you are able to ping the modem?
[01:24] <Berto> hi - i screwed up my grub list - is there an easy way to get it wiped and re-detect my kernels and windows?
[01:24] <lufis> cpk2: No, on the modem there are various LEDs. After activating via the gui "Activity" and "Internet" will be lit but I can't access any websites
[01:24] <Berto> (i'm booting successfully using CD now)
[01:24] <cpk2> lufis: but you can "talk" to the modem?
[01:24] <lufis> cpk2: How do you mean?
[01:25] <steven__> hi peeps
[01:25] <bruenig> !hi
[01:25] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:25] <aaron> Hiho
[01:26] <steven__> anyone feels like helping me to install eclipse ?
[01:26] <bruenig> !anyone
[01:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:26] <cpk2> lufis: just because you cant access websites doesnt mean you cant connect to the modem, if you are actually connected to the modem but cant go to any website then it sounds like a dns problem
[01:26] <bruenig> steven__, you are talking of the IDE?
[01:27] <lufis> cpk2: Ah, then that may be the case. I haven't tried. Is there a way of resetting the dns or whatever? (excuse me, this is a bit out of my field of experience)
[01:27] <steven__> for programming java
[01:27] <BDerwent> and I am back unsuccessfully
[01:27] <cpk2> lufis: if you cat /etc/resolv.conf it will tell you your current nameserver
[01:27] <bruenig> steven__, yeah, it is in the universe repo, have you enabled the universe repo?
[01:27] <cpk2> lufis: that probably wont ever change
[01:27] <steven__> dont think so
[01:28] <steven__> i'm new with this
[01:28] <BDerwent> any time I try to quit x, my computer freezes
[01:28] <lufis> cpk2: Ok. Well, whatever the issue is, it's solved by restarting.
[01:28] <steven__> dont know what universe repo is
[01:28] <bruenig> steven__, follow this tutorial, when that is done upon the terminal, Applications>Accessories>Terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install eclipse"
[01:28] <SUSaiyan> does anyone know how i can fix the black screen problem with the nvidia beta driver?
[01:28] <bruenig> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[01:28] <lufis> cpk2: So I assumed there had to be a way of restarting a specific something rather than the whole system
[01:28] <bruenig> open*
[01:29] <cpk2> lufis: but who wants to restart? How are you going to brag about uptime if you always have to restart? =P
[01:29] <bruenig> uptime bragging rights is important
[01:29] <bruenig> are*
[01:29] <lufis> cpk2: True. :P Do you know what initializes network connections?
[01:29] <aixing> BDerwent: it didnt work?
[01:29] <lufis> cpk2: At boot time?
[01:30] <BDerwent> steven, try using "easyubuntu"
[01:30] <eXistenZ> Does anyone recommend nero-linux here?
[01:30] <aixing> it worked for me hmm... you did try it with sudo <command> right?
[01:30] <steven__> it says couldnt find eclipse
[01:30] <aixing> nevr used it
[01:30] <eXistenZ> or any better burning softwares?
[01:30] <bruenig> steven__, you followed that tutorial right?
[01:30] <BDerwent> aixing: nope, froze everything with a nice black screen
[01:30] <bruenig> !info eclipse
[01:30] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[01:31] <aixing> hmm.. that sux
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> eXistenZ, have you tried k3b?
[01:31] <eXistenZ> zenwhen, nah
[01:31] <lufis> eXistenZ: Honestly, no. It's no better than default linux cd burning software
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> eXistenZ, it is basically nero
[01:31] <eXistenZ> zenwhen, Are you using kubuntu?
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> go for it
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> no
[01:31] <zenwhen-lt> I hate KDE but love k3b
[01:32] <lufis> eXistenZ: I read a review not too long ago about how it was actually really buggy.
[01:32] <jason__> what's the proper way of loading kernel modules in a specific order on Edgy?  (in my case, these modules [usbhid, appletouch]  get autoloaded anyway, so I need to do it before hotplug/discover gets around to it, or blacklist the modules and specifically load them in /etc/modules)
[01:32] <bruenig> steven__, did you?
[01:32] <BDerwent> i've been trying to use the recovery mode, but I can't login because i use the dvorak layout
[01:32] <steven__> did i what?
[01:32] <bruenig> that crazy dvorak
[01:32] <bruenig> steven__, follow that tutorial I linked you?
[01:32] <BDerwent> yeah, but i abhor qwerty
[01:32] <patbam> hi, i'm trying to get sqlite to work with php5. i just installed both and they're running, but i can't figure out how to set permissions and groups so it can write to the directory
[01:33] <Berto> Problem - When I use CD to boot from first hard disk, everything works fine.  When i don't have the CD in, it hangs before getting to the grub screen.  Any ideas why this might be happening?  I need to reset grub or something
[01:33] <steven__> private?
[01:33] <bruenig> I wish I could switch to dvorak, I don't have the self control. It is frustrating to type 15 wpm while learning when I know I can roll at 70 on qwerty
[01:33] <bruenig> steven__, follow this, and then do that command https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096
[01:33] <steven__> k
[01:34] <cpk2> lufis: no, but bringing the interface down then up usually fixes problems
[01:34] <lufis> cpk2: Ah, ok. Thanks.
[01:34] <cpk2> lufis: and it might be a dns problem which means there isnt really anything wrong
[01:34] <lufis> cpk2: Hmm. How would I know?
[01:35] <BDerwent> bruenig: it took getting used to, but qwerty was killing my wrists
[01:35] <cpk2> lufis: if you can ping the modem but cant ping google then it is most likely a dns issue
[01:35] <lufis> cpk2: Ah. I never tried that. Maybe it is. I'll keep it in mind next time there's a storm or something :)
[01:35] <bruenig> I know it is better, maybe if I got a real dvorak keyboard instead of just using the qwerty as a dvorak, that might help
[01:36] <bruenig> as then I could look down
[01:36] <BDerwent> but regardless, can I change the keyboard layout in the recovery mode?
[01:36] <steven__> i dont have the software properties option
[01:36] <BDerwent> i have a laptop, so i just popped the kefs off
[01:36] <BDerwent> *keys
[01:38] <BDerwent> next thing on my customization list is to change the "windows" key to a tux key
[01:39] <aixing> BDerwent: when u get that working could you document it pls
[01:39] <bruenig> steven__, ok, well you will have to do it manually. Open the terminal and do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" once in there look for lines that start like this "# deb http:/blahblahblah" for all of those lines delete the #, and then after you are done with that save and then do that command I gave you earlier
[01:39] <aixing> i would like to include it on my blog.. for when i want to do it myself
[01:40] <Poromenos> Does anyone remember of a Media Center for linux written in Python?
[01:40] <BDerwent> the tux key thing? sure!
[01:40] <Poromenos> Kind of a MediaPortal clone.
[01:41] <der0b> is anyone using an ms wireless desktop elite keyboard in dapper?  If yes, have you got the keycodes error in the messages log fixed and perhaps the wheel/forward and backward buttons working?
[01:42] <aixing> ya the tux key thing
[01:42] <BDerwent> anyway, thanks for the help guys but i need food.  I'll post the tux key thing here when I finish in a day or two
[01:42] <aixing> ok
[01:42] <Poromenos> what is the tux key thing?
[01:42] <pxeboot> anybody know why a docking station wouldnt work *quite* right
[01:43] <shwag> not sure why I am not getting syntax highlighting in vim...python or ruby
[01:43] <BDerwent> I'm sick of the windows key, so it's going to be a "tux" key
[01:43] <AFigueiredo> shwag, edit .vimrc in your home dir and add "syntax on"
[01:43] <LjL> !doesn't work > pxeboot
[01:43] <Poromenos> BDerwent: haha
[01:43] <Poromenos> nice :p
[01:44] <shwag> AFigueiredo: thanks
[01:44] <AFigueiredo> shwag, without quotes
[01:44] <BDerwent> thanks, but food beckons
[01:44] <AFigueiredo> shwag you're welcome
[01:47] <J-_> is there a LAMP guide for xubuntu?
[01:47] <deadcoder> /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat noauto,user,exec,umask=011 0 0
[01:47] <J-_> i'll just go to the xubuntu channel heh
[01:47] <deadcoder> what does that line state to anyone here?
[01:48] <AWOSDev> I *still* have problems with MIDI.
[01:48] <deadcoder> i am having a problem, its a bug or its my understanding of fstab and mount ..... if i could know which one, i would feel a lot better
[01:48] <AWOSDev>  /dev/sequencer is always 'busy' even though fuser reports nothing.
[01:49] <cbo> deadcoder what's the problem?
[01:50] <LuisMendes> Hi, can someone please review the wiki page I've just created? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sunbird   Thanks!
[01:50] <adiboy> hello every one. i have just installed ubuntu and i set the user name to root and password to toor but now when i try to login it will not let me
[01:50] <deadcoder> well, i am trying to be make a ubuntu based distrubtion use a partition in a certain manner
[01:50] <maccam94> is there a way to have different backgrounds on different virtual desktops?
[01:50] <deadcoder> but it seems to be acting wierd, so i am trying to get someone to tell me what my line in fstab means, to see if i have the same impression that they do
[01:50] <iamtheric> a partition mount point
[01:50] <iamtheric> deadcoder, what about it?
[01:50] <iamtheric> deadcoder, its a windows partition
[01:50] <deadcoder> yes
[01:51] <deadcoder> thats right
[01:51] <iamtheric> deadcoder, i usualy just say defaults instead of noauto,user,exec
[01:51] <iamtheric> deadcoder, it might be the umask, whats the bug?
[01:51] <deadcoder> the umask implies that only root can execute binarys on that device .... am i correct?
[01:52] <iamtheric> deadcoder, yeah...
[01:52] <iamtheric> maccam94, yes
[01:52] <iamtheric> deadcoder, you sure its not ntfs?
[01:52] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes -- it's nice but not really NPOV.
[01:52] <deadcoder> the onther thing is that unless the first octal of the umask is set to 0, users can not access the directory that represents that paritions
[01:52] <edytt> Hello!! how to make the loader recognise linux again?? i installed windows after installing kubuntu
[01:52] <steven__> still not working
[01:52] <bruenig> !grub
[01:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:53] <Zaire> some ppl may want to read this its about a vuln in the nvidia kernel http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228
[01:53] <deadcoder> only root can
[01:53] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, well it is my first one.. but what is NPOV?
[01:53] <deadcoder> as soon as the first octal of the umask is set to 1, only root can access /mnt/hda8
[01:53] <iamtheric> deadcoder, so set it to 00
[01:53] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, oh oops nvm...
[01:54] <riddlebox> I have a pc that takes ddr 400 ram, and I found this on bestbuy.com is it the same? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6881797&st=ddr+400&type=product&id=1093470155472
[01:54] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NPOV
[01:54] <iamtheric> deadcoder, so whats wrong with it?
[01:54] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, that only applies to Wikipedia pages -- and when I hear of a 'Wiki page' I instantly think of Wikipedia.
[01:54] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, so it's nice.  Good job :)
[01:54] <deadcoder> the umask subtracts from the default mask which is 777. so 011 leaves 066, which is rwx,rw,rw, why would i want to change it to rwx,rwx,rw
[01:54] <iamtheric> is there a good loadbalancer/ single system image cluster programm for ubuntu?
[01:55] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, you mean the article doesn't have a neutral point of view?
[01:55] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, right...but since this is the Ubuntu wiki I don
[01:55] <hou5ton> I want to paste part of a web page into an Open Office document, but I don't want all the html with it ... just the text only. I know in Word, it gives you that option. How can I do this in OO??  Can't find it??
[01:55] <AWOSDev> 't believe it needs it :)
[01:55] <iamtheric> deadcoder i dont use umask
[01:55] <deadcoder> and that still does not explain why a regular user can not access the partition unless the execute bit is set in the first octal
[01:56] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, the article makes it seem that it is 'in the style and ease-of-use of Mozilla products' -- which is definitely POV.  Not all people (including me) find Firefox easy-to-use.
[01:56] <Sonic|Laptop> I recently made some changes to my ALSA configuration (recompiled drivers) and I went to reboot the networking failed. ifconfig returns no interfaces being up, however if I bring ath0 up I am able to get an IP with dhclient, but even after editing resolv.conf, and making sure my route was setup correctly internet is still not working
[01:56] <ixian_> is there a release date for ubuntu edgy?
[01:56] <cbo> you need a leading zero.  4 digits.  first is zero.  the last 3 are subtracted from 777 to get the umask of the file/dir.
[01:56] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, ohh that's true, I got your point
[01:56] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, but that doesn't matter, this is the Ubuntu wiki, so just ignore me.  It's great!
[01:57] <SurfnKid> how can i do a check disk on a usb mass storage drive from CLI
[01:57] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, you're right, I gotta change that, but thanks :)
[01:57] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, that's okay.  :)
[01:58] <iamtheric> deadcoder just say: /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat defaults 0 0
[01:58] <edytt> if i rewrite the windows bootloaded will i be able to boot to windows later?
[01:59] <deadcoder> so i need a fundmental understanding and a definite result, just copy and pasting is not the solution, if i was going to do that i might as well wipe linux of my drive and go stick my head back in windows xp
[01:59] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, it is done ;)   now I'll translate this into the brazilian wiki, my mother language :)
[01:59] <deadcoder> no i need a fundmental understanding and a definite result, just copy and pasting is not the solution, if i was going to do that i might as well wipe linux of my drive and go stick my head back in windows xp
[01:59] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, cool, thanks :)
[01:59] <dbglt> hey all... I just changed all instances of dapper to edgy in my sources.list then ran an update, then a dist-upgrade... I downloaded about 660mb of stuff, and now there are a few packages it can't find and it won't let me continue with the install
[01:59] <dbglt> no idea how apt works, so any help would be good... (I'm getting 404 not found)
[02:00] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, one more thing, remove the 'very' from 'very easy to install'...then it's perfect.  A+  :)
[02:00] <edytt> Any ideas?
[02:00] <AWOSDev> dbglt, that method of upgrading really isn't supported...is it?
[02:00] <edytt> if i rewrite the windows bootloaded will i be able to boot to windows later?
[02:00] <bulmer> how do I recover whatever dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did ? nothing is displayed after a reboot ? I think the res is too high or not configured correctly
[02:00] <ixian_> i'm seeing little black squares on certain screensavers in ubuntu 6.06, like helios for example. like a particle will be fl ying around then all of a sudden i can see a grid of black squares 'behind' the image, revealed by the particle. ive never overclocked by video card or anything (radeon x850 xtpe) does anyone have an idea of what this is?
[02:01] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, that's true! it may be easy to some, but not to all
[02:01] <deadcoder> understanding what is wrong, the software or my understanding of it, is something i am trying to do.  Otherwise my i am not using linux to its full capacity
[02:01] <dbglt> AWOSDev: I have no clue whatsoever, was pointed to it on a link from this channel, and just followed it
[02:01] <deadcoder> and might as well get rid of it.
[02:01] <iamtheric> deadcoder, or you could go with linux only
[02:01] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, oh and another question, is the english good? :)
[02:01] <iamtheric> dbglt, did all your repos say that or just a couple?
[02:01] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, exactly.
[02:02] <deadcoder> the man pages are no help either\
[02:02] <J-_> LAMP
[02:02] <iamtheric> deadcoder just say: /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat defaults 0 0, that might work
[02:02] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, yes, I couldn't tell that English wasn't your native language.  :)
[02:02] <dbglt> iamtheric: no, this is on the dist-upgrade, it can't find the packages... just on
[02:02] <dbglt> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main openoffice.org-style-default 2.0.4~rc3-0ubuntu4
[02:02] <dbglt>   404 Not Found
[02:02] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, I'm so happy to hear that, really! thank you
[02:02] <dbglt> (for about 15 packages)
[02:02] <dbglt> iamtheric: err yes actually, just the one repo then
[02:02] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes, np.  Good article, I look forward to reading more :)
[02:02] <iamtheric> dbglt, do a apt-get update
[02:03] <dbglt> iamtheric: I did
[02:03] <dbglt> iamtheric: just now
[02:03] <J-_> err, where can i find an ubuntu LAMP tutorial
[02:03] <CheekyBoinc> nice "how to" LuisMendes :)
[02:03] <LuisMendes> CheekyBoinc, glad to hear that, thank you! =)
[02:03] <dbglt> is it just my mirror or do those packages not exist?
[02:03] <iamtheric> dbglt, oh well last timei used ubuntu was early last year
[02:04] <deadcoder> no, it wont work, because that allows any user to execute binarys, look at the man page for mount
[02:04] <wolfbane_691> why is it when i click on something to install nothing happens
[02:04] <LuisMendes> AWOSDev, I'll try to write some more. this is only my first contribution ;)
[02:04] <deadcoder> which is exactly what i am trying to prevent
[02:04] <jspiro> hi all, what package is the Info-format documentation for dd(1) in?
[02:04] <iamtheric> deadcoder, so?
[02:04] <iamtheric> wolfbane_691, it doesnt work like that
[02:04] <wolfbane_691> how do i install
[02:05] <AWOSDev> LuisMendes glad to hear it :)
[02:05] <deadcoder> thats like installing linux because you dont want to have a machine that gets lots of spyware and booting into windows all the time
[02:05] <cpk2> J-_: the wiki page
[02:05] <iamtheric> wolfbane_691 dpkg -i i think
[02:05] <Poromenos> How do I make more workspaces in Gnome?
[02:05] <wolfbane_691> im running linux
[02:05] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: if you ask your questions carefully, and you tell us what you are trying to do and what you did already, that will make it easier for us to help.
[02:05] <iamtheric> wolfbane_691 havent used debian or ubuntu in years
[02:06] <jspiro> wolfbane_691:  you are trying to install a program?
[02:06] <deadcoder> iamtheeric: defauits lets users execute binarys , yes ?
[02:06] <wolfbane_691> trying to wine to install
[02:06] <wolfbane_691> ubuntu
[02:06] <iamtheric> deadcoder, yeah
[02:06] <s3phiroth> hi there. simple question about edgy eft. is metacity compiled with --enable-compositor ?
[02:06] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: is English your first language? we can help you in many languages including French and German.
[02:06] <jspiro> all: what package is the Info-format documentation for dd(1) in?
[02:06] <wolfbane_691> english
[02:06] <deadcoder> didnt i just say that i dont want users to be able to execute binarys, only root ?
[02:07] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: i don't understand some of your english. what does "trying to wine to install" mean?
[02:07] <deadcoder> or did that fstab go over your head
[02:07] <deadcoder> /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat noauto,user,exec,umask=011 0 0
[02:07] <wolfbane_691> oh sry to install wine
[02:07] <Poromenos> wolfbane_691: get automatix, that'll install it
[02:07] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: what program do you want to use with wine?
[02:07] <cpk2> wine is in the repos, but you should go to winehq to get a repo with a much newer version
[02:07] <iamtheric> wolfbane_691 if its a .tar or .gz or .bz2 you need to decompress it first
[02:07] <iamtheric> deadcoder, no, used linux 3< years
[02:07] <wolfbane_691> ok get it on google?
[02:08] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: e.g. MS Office? Winamp? something else?
[02:08] <Poromenos> jspiro: winamp runs on wine?
[02:08] <jspiro> Poromenos: i doubt it.
[02:08] <jspiro> it was just an example.
[02:08] <Jaksh_eet> hello
[02:08] <cpk2> Poromenos: getting automatix will take about the same amount of work that adding the repo would
[02:08] <Poromenos> yeah, me too
[02:08] <Poromenos> cpk2: true
[02:08] <wolfbane_691> no thats it thanx
[02:08] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: what???
[02:08] <Jaksh_eet> ok, finally got Edgy AMD64 working all the way
[02:08] <Groovie> I need help with my modem.  I have it up and working.  I am using 6.06.  When I installed the pannel plugin to connect/disconnect, it worked until I did a Cntrl-Alt-Backspace to reset the X server.  Now I can't get the plugin to connect or disconect.  I have to use the network configuration utility.  I wandered if there is some sort of lock file?  Can someone help?
[02:09] <Jaksh_eet> is there any way to get codec for mp3 and such for edgy amd64?
[02:09] <jspiro> iamtheric: please do not advise people do use tools such as dpkg -i here. if you wait, someone else will help the user to use the graphical tools that ship with Ubuntu.
[02:09] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: why don't you use a more respectful nickname? :-)
[02:09] <iamtheric> deadcoder, i still dont understand what your trying to do
[02:09] <dave132> i have a problem, when i try to set a appointment in evolution it tells me that the i cannot set a appointment because the calendar is read only, how can i fix this?
[02:10] <iamtheric> jspiro, whats wrong with that?
[02:10] <eXistenZ> How can I install .jar files?
[02:10] <synphreak> Does anyone have troubleshooting advice for extremely slow bcm43xx wireless? (Dapper) I got it working using the nickm's howto on ubuntuforums.org, but it is extremely slow and i haven't been able to find a solution.
[02:10] <jspiro> iamtheric: people here are new Ubuntu users. many have no idea what a shell even is. here, we try to help people use the graphical tools when possible.
[02:10] <bulmer> jar files are similar to tar files..  jar -xvf  yourfile.jar
[02:10] <iamtheric> ok
[02:10] <jspiro> all: what package is the Info-format documentation for dd(1) in?
[02:10] <cpk2> eXistenZ: you dont install them
[02:11] <jspiro> iamtheric: :-)
[02:11] <eXistenZ> cpk2, run it
[02:11] <cpk2> normally you just run a jar
[02:11] <cbo> deadcoder: have you tried 0177 for the umask?
[02:11] <jspiro> wolfbane_691: hello?
[02:11] <steven__> can somebody help me?
[02:12] <cpk2> eXistenZ: i think java -jar runthis.jar
[02:12] <AWOSDev> synphreak, it's limited to 11 Mbps
[02:12] <steven__> trying to install eclipse
[02:12] <jspiro> eXistenZ: cpk2 is correct.
[02:12] <Jaksh_eet> jspiro Jaksh is a respectful name, it is a name I have been using for years
[02:12] <iamtheric> steven__, ok
[02:12] <steven__> ah private?
[02:12] <synphreak> AWOSDev: I realize that, but it's extremely slow as in bringing up google takes 2 or 3 minutes.
[02:12] <deadcoder> the user flag documentation in mount states explictly that it will allow do noexec for all users UNLESS it is followed by other options, therefore exec and umask=011 should only allow root to execute binarys on the parition in the fstab line
[02:12] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: but what do you claim "eet" adds?
[02:12] <eXistenZ> okay, thanks :)
[02:13] <jspiro> eXistenZ: tell us if it worked after you try.
[02:13] <deadcoder> the user flag documentation in mount states explictly that it will allow noexec for all users UNLESS it is followed by other options, therefore exec and umask=011 should only allow root to execute binarys on the parition in the fstab line
[02:13] <eXistenZ> jspiro, yes, thank you:)
[02:13] <Jaksh_eet> a surname, i still not seeing the connection
[02:13] <kupesoft> eXistenZ: I hate David Kronenberg.  He prances around the Forest Hill village in Toronto,
[02:13] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: in English, "jack sh*t" is a disrespectful term.
[02:14] <eXistenZ> kupesoft, Sprichst du Deutsch?
[02:14] <iamtheric> deadcoder, makes sense
[02:14] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: your nickname is very close to that. have you considered using something such as j_eet or eet_jaksh instead?
[02:14] <Jaksh_eet> but I am not using Jack sh*t, I am Jaksh eet
[02:14] <Groovie> Hello
[02:14] <Wazm> hello
[02:14] <Jaksh_eet> is it slang?
[02:14] <jspiro> Groovie: Wazm: hi both
[02:14] <Groovie> Can someone help me with my modem connection?
[02:14] <Jaksh_eet> if so my appologies
[02:14] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: yes. see http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_shit for a definition.
[02:15] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: no, don't worry.
[02:15] <s3phiroth> jspiro: sometimes there are words on other languages that have dirty meanings
[02:15] <Jaksh_eet> i have been discovering this
[02:15] <Jaksh_eet> slowly
[02:15] <deadcoder> /dev/hda8 /mnt/hda8 vfat noauto,user,exec,umask=011 0 0
[02:15] <kupesoft> eXistenZ: no,
[02:15] <s3phiroth> one of the best mountain bike brands in the world for example, is one of the most dirty words on my language :p
[02:15] <AWOSDev> synphreak, no clue. I only know about limitations of the driver, my experiences with it have convinced me not to use WLAN on Linux :P
[02:15] <jspiro> and there's the Nova car...
[02:15] <deadcoder> so why would i use defaults then?????????
[02:15] <Wazm> you tell me
[02:15] <jspiro> problem is, "Nova" means "don't go" in Spanish :)
[02:15] <Jaksh_eet> No va, lol no go?
[02:16] <jspiro> yeah. the Nova didn't sell too well in Spain or Brazil.
[02:16] <Jaksh_eet> that is terrible name for an automobile
[02:16] <deadcoder> if i have spent all that time on the line in fstab above ?
[02:16] <xeruno> Hello every one !
[02:16] <synphreak> AWOSDev: It's about to do the same for me I think, hah.
[02:16] <jspiro> xeruno: hi
[02:17] <xeruno> I have this question regarding Firefox printing
[02:17] <AWOSDev> synphreak well it wouldn't even *detect* my card... :X
[02:17] <Jaksh_eet> how do I install mp3 and dvd codec in Edgy amd64? or am I to soon?
[02:17] <jmark> I have a hauppaghe bt878 chipset tvcard that works great when I use a live cd, but when I boot up into ubuntu that has been installed on a workstation and followed the directions here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153935 I get a blue screen that says "no signal"
[02:17] <xeruno> Why firefox does not use Gnome Gnome Printing dialog, I get  a lot of confused user all the time!
[02:17] <jmark> anyone got ideas?
[02:17] <bruenig> Jaksh_eet, try #ubuntu+1 but I assume it would be the same as in dapper 64 bit
[02:18] <xeruno> there is a web page where i can get information about the topic?
[02:18] <Maxilein> hi
[02:18] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: edgy is still in beta. it is a good idea to check the web instead of asking on IRC. :-)
[02:18] <Maxilein> is there a package for the "X headers"?
[02:18] <Jaksh_eet> i searched but found nothing as of yet
[02:18] <jspiro> Jaksh_eet: if you want help on IRC, use Ubuntu 6.06 instead.
[02:18] <steven__> iamtheric are you still there?
[02:18] <Berto> will someone please help?  My bootloader is completely fried on my laptop and i need a program to detect and restore the bootloader on /dev/sda ... i'm booted into the live cd now
[02:18] <jspiro> Maxilein: yes, but I don't know it, but why would you need them anyway?
[02:19] <jspiro> Maxilein: what are you trying to compile yourself?
[02:19] <xeruno> I think if Ubuntu want to maintain coherence  there should be at leat one printing dialog, at least for the default application like Firefox
[02:19] <iamtheric> steven__, yeah, but i cant priv
[02:19] <Maxilein> jspiro, this:  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=52013&action=view
[02:19] <bulmer> jspiro how can you tell the ubuntu version?  it doesnt seem to display it during installation
[02:19] <synphreak> AWOSDev: it actually detected mine from the start, and I have had it connect to one router without trouble.  But I tried using another router of the same brand and model and it didn't work.  Just not sure what else to try. Thanks for the help though.
[02:20] <steven__> k
[02:20] <xeruno> is there a bug filled about this?
[02:20] <steven__> i need to install java
[02:20] <bpfick> xeruno answer you private message channel
[02:20] <jspiro> bulmer: i think cat /etc/debian-* /etc/ubuntu-*
[02:20] <steven__> got .bin file but cant install it
[02:21] <bulmer> steven_ is that .bin file has execute bits on?
[02:21] <iamtheric> steven__, change permissions and just execute the file
[02:21] <Jaksh_eet> thank you for you help my friends
[02:21] <xeruno> bpfick, wait I have to identify  :S
[02:21] <Jaksh_eet> seems I just follow the Dapper Amd64 installs
[02:21] <steven__> k ill try
[02:21] <jspiro> Maxilein: what is the webpage you got that program from?
[02:22] <jspiro> bulmer: did it work?
[02:23] <AWOSDev> synphreak, I hear that Edgy should have better support, so maybe wait until the 26th...
[02:23] <AWOSDev> :)
[02:24] <bulmer> jspiro: am doing a re-install..i was not able to see the display..dont know if its toohigh res or what..thats after i tried to run dpkg-configgure xorg
[02:24] <Jbirk> test
[02:25] <AWOSDev> jbirk, Failed.  :P
[02:25] <jspiro> bulmer: dunno. for X issues, www.ubuntuforums.org may be a better place than IRC to get help
[02:25] <julian> anyone here use parsix
[02:25] <iamtheric> steven__, do it yet?
[02:25] <jspiro> bulmer: or, try a LUG. do you mind if i ask what city you live in?
[02:25] <AWOSDev> bulmer, Dapper or Edgy?
[02:25] <bulmer> san bruno kalifornia
[02:26] <steven__> how do i go into a folder :s
[02:26] <jspiro> bulmer: try a web search for either San Bruno Linux User Group or California Linux User Groups
[02:26] <AWOSDev> bulmer: are you using Dapper Drake or Edgy Eft?
[02:26] <AWOSDev> steven__ -- in the CLI or GUI?
[02:26] <steven__> terminal
[02:27] <jspiro> bulmer: or try http://linux.meetup.com - a LUG will help you in person for free. LUGs meet once a week, usually in universities or restaurants.
[02:27] <iamtheric> steven__, cd
[02:27] <bulmer> actually i already know suse..am just trying this ubuntu for the sake of curiosity..seems not user friendly
[02:27] <Berto> will someone please help?  My bootloader is completely fried on my laptop and i need a program to detect and restore the bootloader on /dev/sda ... i'm booted into the live cd now
[02:27] <steven__> damn i thought i tried it :s
[02:27] <iamtheric> fail
[02:27] <jspiro> bulmer: it is user friendly, though the IRC channel is very busy now.
[02:27] <jspiro> bulmer: try it on a different computer. you should have better luck.
[02:28] <bulmer> AWOSDev: actually i dont know what variety of Ubuntu i have, someone gave me a CDROM and I installed
[02:28] <bk> is there a way to install ubuntu not from the live cd?
[02:28] <cpk2> bk: yes, you can use a usbkey or netinstall
[02:28] <jspiro> bk: alternate install cd - see http://www.ubuntu.com and click "Alternate".
[02:28] <jspiro> bk: i mean "Download" then "Alternate"
[02:29] <iamtheric> steven__, just use nautilus or konqueror or whatever
[02:29] <jspiro> bk: why?
[02:29] <steven__> what are those?
[02:29] <bk> the pc im trying to install on is old and locks up during the partition manager
[02:29] <bk> it's actually xubuntu
[02:30] <jspiro> Berto: try sudo grub-install "(hd0)"
[02:30] <jspiro> Berto: or www.ubuntuforums.org - they know more :)
[02:30] <Berto> jspiro: good idea, even from the install cd?   ok thanks
[02:30] <cpk2> bk: xubuntu will have an alternate cd too
[02:30] <jspiro> Berto: yes and youre welcome.
[02:31] <jspiro> bk: do you know how to file a bug report?
[02:31] <Jbirk> how is it going?
[02:31] <sven-tek> Hello guys, i really need help today. I build a openoffice presentation on a edgy system. Runs fine there. But then i copied it to my dapper laptop, which i utilize to play the presentation tomorrow - openoffice crashes. Can i get Openoffice 2.0.4 for dapper somewhere?
[02:31] <Jbirk> I got the NDIS wrapper working
[02:31] <Jbirk> on my WG111v2
[02:31] <Jbirk> IT works great
[02:31] <bk> jspiro: i think the pc is just old 128mb/piii500
[02:31] <Berto> jspiro: unfortunately that didn't work:  Could not find device for /boot:  Not found or not a block device
[02:32] <jspiro> Berto: dunno. try the forums. tell them what you told me btw.
[02:32] <jspiro> Berto: or ask a LUG. can i ask what city you are in?
[02:32] <Jbirk> where can I get the ndiswrapper package?
[02:32] <Jbirk> to put on a memory stick
[02:32] <Jbirk> for a friend
[02:32] <Berto> jspiro: austin but i don't want to mess with that.  i've been using linux for long but was always lilo and never had this problem really...
[02:33] <SuperMiguel> i did all this guide (http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06) there is any way to test what i did, like how to use my mail server or my dns server?
[02:33] <jspiro> Berto: ask the austin linux user group. i bet they meet once a week and can help you in person.
[02:33] <Berto> thanks jspiro i'm going to fix this tonight though
[02:33] <duffyd> hello, I'm having trouble getting my fonts to appear nicely when printing to pdf from konqueror. Anyone know how to configure the fonts when printing in konq? (I'm running kde 3.5.3. It's mepis)
[02:34] <jspiro> Berto: good luck.
[02:34] <jspiro> and youre welcome.
[02:34] <eleftherios> is ubuntu better at detecting and supporting wireless cards than debian is? I have been using debian for two years now and I can't get wireless working for two days now
[02:34] <jspiro> Berto: or use lilo :)
[02:34] <jspiro> eleftherios: try the ubuntu livecd and see :)
[02:34] <Berto> jspiro: dude i'd love to get lilo on there right now
[02:34] <krazykit> eleftherios: kinda.  ubuntu patches their kernel with lots of experimental drivers.
[02:34] <eleftherios> and how easy is it to configure them
[02:35] <iamtheric> eleftherios, the ubuntu kernel is newer i believe
[02:35] <jspiro> Berto: sudo apt-get install lilo
[02:35] <eleftherios> now I have the drivers running and working (I hope) but configuring the wireless has been a b*tch
[02:35] <jspiro> Berto: if that works then proceed as usual with lilo.
[02:35] <eleftherios> I will download the live CD
[02:35] <eleftherios> it is a shame not to be able to have wireless configuration in seconds
[02:35] <swedegrrl> Minnesota
[02:36] <SuperMiguel> how do i use an mail server?
[02:36] <Jbirk> Is there any way I can cache some of the files?
[02:36] <Jbirk> I want to cache an apt-get
[02:36] <Berto> jspiro: are you good with lilo?
[02:36] <Jbirk> basically, is there anyway to get the .deb?
[02:37] <nba> gud morning room
[02:37] <eleftherios> would somebody please be kind enough to give me a link to the latest live cd? Thank you
[02:37] <jrib> eleftherios: ubuntu.com, click on download
[02:37] <AWOSDev> I *really* *really* need help with MIDI.
[02:37] <krazykit> Jbirk: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:37] <DTXBrian> Need a touch of help configuring Java on my new Ubuntu AMD 64 installation.
[02:37] <eleftherios> jrib, I am there
[02:37] <AWOSDev> This problem has been making me very upset for a week.
[02:37] <AWOSDev> I'm about at my boiling point.
[02:37] <jrib> eleftherios: that's the link, the desktop cd is both the live cd and the install cd
[02:38] <darnell_> where are the files for the programs for the application menu..
[02:38] <nba> i like to watch dvd movie, can i do it here in ubuntu pc?
[02:38] <eleftherios> jrib, I see, thank you :)
[02:38] <krazykit> AWOSDev: can't help the problem, but maybe check out timiddity
[02:38] <darnell_> limewire is still there
[02:38] <nba> how to do about it
[02:38] <jrib> ubotu: tell nba about dvd
[02:38] <nba> thank you in advance
[02:38] <AWOSDev> I Have A Freaking Hardware Synth, so timidity will not help me.
[02:38] <krazykit> !dvd
[02:38] <DTXBrian> I really only have two issues with Ubuntu.
[02:38] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:38] <DTXBrian> 1 is java.
[02:38] <darnell_> where are the files for the programs for the application menu..
[02:38] <DTXBrian> The other is sound... none.
[02:38] <Jbirk> okay
[02:38] <Jbirk> I found it
[02:38] <kismet_> what's the command/method to remove a startup script from the recovery console?
[02:39] <Jbirk> ndiswrapper-utils_1.8...
[02:39] <punter> hi
[02:39] <gilbert_> hello im trying to install beryl and folowing this guide http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[02:39] <steven__> k i gave the rights
[02:40] <gilbert_> but there is a problem with that guide
[02:40] <Jbirk> sudo apt-get install beryl
[02:40] <yokobr> anyone knows a boot floppy image to boot here? my cd rom doesnt make boot, just on floppy
[02:40] <Jbirk> That is all you have to do to install beryl
[02:40] <SuperMiguel> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[02:40] <punter> I made a mistake - added a "backtrack" repository, now my packages are so new that dependencies have broken - how do I revert back to the old (normal) versions of my installed software?
[02:40] <Jbirk> You must alreeady have accleration turned on in xorg.conf
[02:40] <gilbert_> i cannot import the key
[02:40] <eleftherios> if wireless works out of the box on the live CD I will install it and never use etch again
[02:40] <Jbirk> and you should have the xserver-xgl installed
[02:41] <Jbirk> and verified with ps -e | grep Xgl
[02:41] <SuperMiguel> how do i use my mail server i just installed postfix
[02:41] <gilbert_> is there any way to get this key
[02:41] <DTXBrian> Eleftherios... it's not hard to config the wireless.
[02:41] <DTXBrian> You just have to change the default internet connection to be wlan0
[02:41] <yokobr> if i use beryl. can i use xgl and cedega?
[02:41] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, mine is eth2
[02:41] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, I have not been able to get it working for two days now
[02:41] <DTXBrian> For wireless?
[02:41] <AWOSDev> I *NEED* to use my MPU-401 port to play a MIDI file.
[02:41] <SuperMiguel> how do i use my mail server i just installed postfix
[02:41] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, I want to pull my hair out
[02:42] <krazykit> yokobr: beryl needs aiglx OR xgl.  if you have an ati card, you can't play 3d games with xgl.
[02:42] <iamtheric> steven__, wow that took a while just for rights
[02:42] <kismet_> is there a screen pause for the ls command?
[02:42] <hobbesmaster> g++ seems to have disappeared on my system, and apt-get install build-essential complains of the missing dependencies g++ and libc6
[02:42] <krazykit> kismet_: ls|less
[02:42] <DTXBrian> Eleftherios, my eth0 is an ethernet card, not a wireless card.
[02:42] <DTXBrian> Wireless on my laptop is wlan0.
[02:42] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, mine too
[02:42] <iamtheric> steven__, chmod 777 *.jar
[02:42] <steven__> sorry only had my first lessons
[02:42] <kismet_> krazykit: that removes the color info
[02:42] <steven__> i'm new with linux
[02:42] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, my wireless card is eth2 for some reason
[02:42] <DTXBrian> eleftherios, have you tried wlan0?
[02:43] <krazykit> kismet_: then afaik, no.
[02:43] <steven__> i got bin files
[02:43] <eleftherios> DTXBrian, ifconfig does not see a wlan0
[02:43] <DTXBrian> What's your eth1?
[02:43] <yokobr> i have nvidia, and i want to use xgl with beryl and cedega
[02:44] <catalytic> Im having trouble getting a dlink dwl-g630 wireless pcmcia card to work, and stay working
[02:44] <krazykit> yokobr: actually, aiglx would be better than xgl.
[02:44] <iamtheric> steven__, now execute
[02:44] <catalytic> i managed to get it working last night, ran fine for over 2hours
[02:44] <steven__> how?
[02:44] <catalytic> restarted computer, and now I can even load the network manager to change the wireless card settings
[02:45] <AWOSDev> Does *anybody* know about MIDI?
[02:45] <AWOSDev> Should I go to another channel?
[02:45] <krazykit> AWOSDev: maybe you should just ask the question.
[02:45] <AWOSDev> I already did.
[02:45] <AWOSDev> Up there ^^^
[02:45] <catalytic> also, it doesnt seem to be saving some of my settings when i restart, and some of the menu positions on panels sometimes change or dissappear
[02:45] <krazykit> AWOSDev: what about midi then?
[02:46] <theturtlemoves> hey, I'm looking at getting a laptop with an ATI mobility x1600 card.
[02:46] <AWOSDev>  /dev/sequencer always says 'busy' but fuser reports nothing.  I believe that my MIDI is not properly configured.  How in the world do I configure the bloddy thing?
[02:46] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: no.  get nvidia.  ati-drivers are trash.
[02:46] <AWOSDev> theturtlemoves, no.
[02:46] <theturtlemoves> that bad, huh
[02:46] <iamtheric> steven__, ./file.jar
[02:47] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: yes, that bad.  worse than that bad.
[02:47] <krazykit> AWOSDev: i'm not familiar with hardware midi.  i've always installed timidity and used the software interface
[02:47] <sgorilla78> hello
[02:47] <bulmer> iamtheric  that advise will not work
[02:47] <steven__> jar?
[02:47] <sheriff> hello
[02:47] <theturtlemoves> krazykit: what's the problem. Is it just buggy or is there something specific that doesn't work
[02:47] <sgorilla78> im trying to get ndiswrapper working for ubuntu
[02:47] <DTXBrian> I'm beginning to think perhaps I made a mistake by installing ubuntu.
[02:47] <AWOSDev> I need to use the external MIDI port as well.  /dev/sequencer2.
[02:47] <hangfire> what, the x1600 is bad?
[02:47] <sgorilla78> does it not come with it by default with the server cd?
[02:47] <sgorilla78> all i can find is module packages
[02:48] <sgorilla78> im not sure how to install this driver for ndiswrapper
[02:48] <bulmer> steven_ what do you want to do with that jar file?
[02:48] <sgorilla78> i have the kernel module but i dont know what to do
[02:48] <theturtlemoves> hangfire: do you use it under linux?
[02:48] <hangfire> no
[02:48] <hangfire> ok, I see what your getting at
[02:48] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: ati drivers are buggy.  suspend has major issues with ati-drivers (doesn't work), poor acceleration, and it will only accelerate the first screen in x, which is bad for xgl/beryl users.
[02:48] <sheriff> im trying to install beryl with this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl but when im trying to get pgp keys it gives an error
[02:48] <sheriff> so anyone can help me?
[02:49] <theturtlemoves> krazykit: thanks, good to know
[02:49] <krazykit> sheriff: ask #ubuntu-xgl and be patient
[02:49] <Jbirk> thyanks
[02:49] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: i'd recommend intel over ati graphics, heh
[02:49] <Jbirk> jspiro, thanks
[02:49] <sheriff> krazykit:ok thanks
[02:49] <steven__> i only have .bin
[02:49] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, what about it?
[02:49] <hobbesmaster> apt seems to be completely broken, i try apt-get install build-essential, it complains that the dependency g++  4.0 cannot be installed, I download the package g++-4.0 from packages.ubuntu.com/dapper and package installer complains that it cannot install libstdc++6-4.0-dev, libstdc++ packages complains that it cannot install g++-4.0
[02:49] <theturtlemoves> krazykit: i want a reasonably high-performance card, something better than my FX5600 desktop card
[02:50] <Jbirk> I cannot believe I got my wireless card going
[02:50] <Jbirk> it is awsome
[02:50] <hobbesmaster> never seen apt blow up with circular depencies like that before
[02:50] <sgorilla78> is dapper unstable or stable?
[02:50] <AWOSDev> iamtheric, well it doesn't work.  at all.  and it's making me VERRRRRY upset.
[02:50] <AWOSDev> I have an ES1938 Solo-1 integrated PCI card.
[02:50] <AWOSDev> It worked in Windows 95/98/2000/XP and Red Hat 9 Kernel 2.2.
[02:50] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: in a laptop, anything nvidia 6200 and above, iirc
[02:50] <hobbesmaster> it would appear that g++ is dependent on g++...
[02:50] <Byan> anyone have any idea how to set up a webcam?
[02:51] <Byan> on a server
[02:51] <kismet_> how do you see the raw output during bootup rather than the prettified ubuntu screen?
[02:51] <Byan> kismet_: uninstall gnome =P
[02:51] <Jbirk> Ubuntu is awsome
[02:51] <antigroove> how do you access network shares via the console?
[02:51] <Jbirk> It is the only  linux distro that works
[02:51] <krazykit> kismet_: remove usplash, or i think there's a menu.lst item that you can disable
[02:51] <Byan> antigroove: samba shares?
[02:52] <antigroove> yes, byan
[02:52] <steven__> i dont have jar file i got .bin
[02:52] <kismet_> no, i mean, when it's loading the kernel and components before the spash screen
[02:52] <kismet_> or, rather, before the login screen
[02:52] <krazykit> kismet_: something like nosplash or something
[02:52] <sureshot> hey is anyone familier with xtrs trs80 emulator trying to compile it and cant just wondering if i can ask here
[02:53] <Jbirk> antigroove: how do you access network shares via the console
[02:53] <kylrags> ] for a low-end PC shooould i start with Ubuntu or XUbuntu?
[02:53] <Jbirk> Answer, mount -t smbfs
[02:53] <Jbirk> to mount a samba share
[02:53] <Byan> antigroove: apt-get install smbclient
[02:53] <kismet_> kylrags: how low-end?
[02:53] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, midi sucks
[02:53] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, i still use redhat9
[02:53] <krazykit> kylrags: xubuntu is lighter.  i'd recommend it anyway for any computer
[02:53] <kylrags> haha Pentium 2. it WAS running XP though
[02:53] <AWOSDev> iamtheric, are you telling me to use Red Hat 9 or not use MIDI?
[02:53] <Eddieduce> I am trying to install Windows Firefox for Wine.  From what I read in the Wine web page all it requires is running the windows executable but it did not work, giving me a "Couldn't display '/home/tech/Desktop/Firefox Setup <IP_ADDRESS>.exe'" Can anyone help or point to the right direction?
[02:54] <AWOSDev> kylrags, Exact specs would help.
[02:54] <kismet_> kylrags: yeah, i'd go with Xubuntu. It's just not quite as pretty
[02:54] <kylrags> oh
[02:54] <AWOSDev> kylrags, Kubuntu runs decently on my Celeron/500 with 256MB
[02:54] <Byan> kylrags: fluxbox might be even better
[02:54] <kylrags> compaq presario
[02:54] <AWOSDev> Presario...?
[02:54] <kylrags> 10  gig harddrive
[02:54] <AWOSDev> exact model #
[02:54] <kylrags> presario yes
[02:55] <kylrags> 5170
[02:55] <AWOSDev> 4850?  5240?
[02:55] <AWOSDev> ahhh
[02:55] <steven__> i got it
[02:55] <AWOSDev> kylrags, that would be, what, 400MHz?
[02:55] <steven__> thx
[02:55] <AWOSDev> how much memory?
[02:55] <kylrags> 10 gigs if mem
[02:55] <antigroove> cool, thanks byan and jbirk
[02:55] <AWOSDev> !?
[02:55] <krazykit> kylrags: memory, not hard drive
[02:55] <AWOSDev> RAM not Hard Disk...
[02:55] <theturtlemoves> so what's the Intel gma950 like in 3D acceleration?
[02:55] <kylrags> 512 ram i belive
[02:55] <kismet_> oh, for 10 Gigs of RAM...
[02:55] <kismet_> lol
[02:56] <kismet_> Just load the whole filesystem into RAM
[02:56] <krazykit> theturtlemoves: it's pretty good.  it won't run your brand new games, but for general puttering around it's good.  it's good enough for compiz/beryl
[02:56] <Byan> theturtlemoves: no idea on linux, but in directX, it's like a GF4 or 5 with update date API
[02:56] <kylrags> iimm just trying to get anything better than   Damn Small Linux really
[02:57] <AWOSDev> kylrags regular Ubuntu or Kubuntu would be finnnnneeee on the computer
[02:57] <sgorilla78> what apt sources should i use for ubuntu?
[02:57] <AWOSDev> heck it runs decent on 256MB
[02:57] <AWOSDev> 512 == Heaven :)
[02:57] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, both i have a presario 700
[02:57] <Byan> sgorilla78: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:57] <kylrags> i have a ubuntu boot disk and im getting a xubuntu disk tomarrow from a friend
[02:58] <sgorilla78> Byan: i will check it out
[02:58] <kylrags> but the ununtu one just sits there
[02:58] <Byan> ack, I forgot why I was here... so no one knows how to set up a webcam?
[02:58] <DTXBrian> I have an AMD Turion 64 X2 mobile processor on my laptop with a gig of ram.
[02:59] <krazykit> Byan: have you searched the wiki and forums?
[02:59] <jmark> I have a bt878 card, running ubuntu 6.06 from live cd...the card works great, I boot up from my hard drive (also ubuntu 6.06) and I get "no signal" blue screens when trying to view tv, what am I doing wrong? I have loaded all modules (my card is found as "10" and tuner as "2") still doesn't work.... ideas please?
[02:59] <DTXBrian> I still cannot manage to get Java to run on my laptop.
[02:59] <DTXBrian> I went into the repository list to permit multiverse...
[02:59] <DTXBrian> Still cannot figure what to do.
[02:59] <jmark> have a bt878 card, running ubuntu 6.06 from live cd...the card works great, I boot up from my hard drive (also ubuntu 6.06) and I get "no signal" blue screens when trying to view tv, what am I doing wrong? I have loaded all modules (my card is found as "10" and tuner as "2") still doesn't work.... ideas please?
[03:00] <DTXBrian> I don't know where the add/remove button is supposed to be.  It's not under "applications"
[03:00] <AWOSDev> iamtheric, really?
[03:00] <AWOSDev> Is it the CDTV model?
[03:00] <krazykit> jmark: no need to spam the quesetion.  i think you need a piece of software that i don't remember, but remember seeing on the mythtv guide
[03:00] <Eddieduce> Any one setup Firefox for Windows through Wine for Ubuntu?
[03:00] <jmark> did that by accident, sorry
[03:00] <jmark> didnt mean to ask twice
[03:00] <Vuen> Eddieduce: why on earth would you want to do that?
[03:00] <AWOSDev> Eddieduce, yes and it works fine.
[03:01] <SuperMiguel> how do i use my mail server i just installed postfix
[03:01] <kylrags> all i am seeing right now is a curser oon top of soome glossy graphics
[03:01] <kylrags> on my ubuntu PC
[03:01] <jmark> krazykit: mythtv guide? is there a ubuntu mythtv guide?
[03:01] <krazykit> yeah
[03:01] <krazykit> on the wiki, jmark
[03:01] <jmark> k, i'll check it out
[03:01] <AWOSDev> SuperMiguel,  sudo apt-get install postfix  maybe?
[03:01] <jmark> thanks
[03:02] <Byan> krazykit: couldn't find anything about ubuntu and webcams.. at least, where exactly I start..
[03:02] <Eddieduce> Vuen: Shockwave is still required for some webpages and Linux's Ubuntu does no support it Yet.
[03:03] <Vuen> Eddieduce: ah, i see
[03:03] <krazykit> Byan: probably start with v4l, the video4linux stuff.  i'm really not familiar with webcams though
[03:04] <Byan> krazykit: hmmm
[03:04] <Eddieduce> AWOSDev:  I thought it only required running the Windows executable, but it gave me the message "Couldn't display "/home/tech/Desktop/Firefox Setup <IP_ADDRESS>.exe""
[03:04] <Eddieduce> I must depart I hope you can colaborate tomorrow. Bye.
[03:04] <AWOSDev> Eddieduce, just cd to Desktop and type                 wine Firefox\ Setup\ <IP_ADDRESS>.exe
[03:05] <AWOSDev> Oh bye Eddieduce!
[03:05] <AWOSDev> Sure we may.
[03:06] <theturtlemoves> ok, thanks for the advice all :) bye
[03:08] <MrWok> whats a good tracker to get the 6.06 server release off of as a torrent?
[03:09] <MrWok> anyone?
[03:09] <Rondom> MrWok: don't think the tracker plays such a large role
[03:09] <MrWok> Okay.
[03:09] <krazykit> MrWok: anything linked from the main page.
[03:09] <MrWok> There's no links to any actual torrent sites
[03:09] <Rondom> I mean if there are enough people seeding it it's ok
[03:10] <hikenboot> hello all--I am having difficulty installing the nvida video driver that nvidia has ..I keep getting either  a message that says the kernel-module version is 1.0-7174 but this x module has the version 1.0-8774 or otherwise i can manage to configure it to work by starting x from root using startx but it wont start from boot..any ideas?
[03:10] <Rondom> MrWok: simply dowload the torrent file
[03:10] <nba> guys, sos pls, i can't activate the DVD decrpytion
[03:10] <SuperMiguel> how do i use my mail server i just installed postfix
[03:10] <riPPerMD> lol I am having same problem with nvidia driver
[03:10] <nba> i have type "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install -css.sh
[03:10] <nba> "
[03:11] <nba> but the out put was " /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install: command not found
[03:11] <nba> "
[03:11] <cpk2> are you guys trying to get the nvidia driver via apt-get?
[03:11] <hikenboot> got a solution riPPerMD
[03:11] <hikenboot> no trying to install nvidias version because it uses hardware excelleration
[03:11] <riPPerMD> no I installed from the package from nvidia site
[03:12] <riPPerMD> nope no solution yet
[03:12] <Flannel> !nvidia
[03:12] <riPPerMD> looked on the forums but couldnt find a fix
[03:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:12] <Flannel> what's wrong with that?
[03:12] <hikenboot> I am trying to get the 3ddesktop working and it requires excelleration
[03:12] <Abst> anyone know the wwebsite for libmono1.0-cil
[03:12] <Jobberwacky> excelleration?
[03:13] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, no
[03:13] <iamtheric> AWOSDev, i have redhat9 on all my machines including that one
[03:13] <Flannel> hikenboot: use that link ubotu just gave
[03:13] <grndslm> anybody know if prelinking is worth it??
[03:13] <cpk2> riPPerMD; hikenboot get the nvidia drivers via apt-getr
[03:13] <cpk2> apt-get even
[03:14] <scott_> OK (hi all) I'm trying to reinstall Dapper cleanly from live/install cd but it hangs at 'starting up the partitioner 14%' ne ideas???
[03:14] <hikenboot> but they dont support hardware excelleration right?
[03:14] <Zambezi> Anybody used a 16:9 or 16:10 monitor i Ubuntu? How is that?
[03:14] <Jobberwacky> scott_, maybe low RAM?
[03:14] <domoking> I just downloaded my ati drivers and the extension is .run How would I run this?
[03:14] <scott_> have 1 GB
[03:14] <Flannel> hikenboot: yes they do
[03:14] <AWOSDev> iamtheric, oh.
[03:15] <Flannel> scott_: burn at 4x
[03:15] <AWOSDev> Presario 700 from what year?  they made a few...
[03:15] <Jobberwacky> I've seen that problem with the livecd, you're better off with the alt cd
[03:15] <cpk2> hikenboot: yes they do, the nvidia drivers are exactly the same as what you get from the website
[03:15] <scott_> Did the CD check... came back OK
[03:15] <iamtheric> Eddieduce, just install the linux version
[03:15] <riPPerMD> ok i went through all that but now I get an error that x wont load because of  API mismatch
[03:16] <Flannel> riPPerMD: Just use the nvidia drivers from apt, you sidestep all of the hassle
[03:16] <scott_> Where do I get the alt CD
[03:16] <Jobberwacky> Zambezi, it's fine, I have a 5:3 monitor
[03:16] <Flannel> scott_: same place, ubuntu.com/download
[03:16] <Flannel> scott_: and still, burn at 4x
[03:16] <grndslm> prelinking anybody??  useful or not?
[03:16] <autoklauen> i tried installing ubuntu on a machine. i got message logical block *digits*. i tried google but ddint find any sulution. ubuntu works fine on my other installs
[03:16] <scott_> OK I'll give it a try..
[03:16] <Zambezi> Jobberwacky, And that's also okay?
[03:17] <Jobberwacky> Zambezi, yeah, no problem
[03:17] <riPPerMD> ok I'll give that, thanks
[03:17] <nba> sos pls, cannot activate DVD decryption, what would i do
[03:17] <scott_> just curious is it console (text) or automated (GUI)?
[03:17] <Zambezi> Jobberwacky, I just have 15". I would like to have a new, but the one I want is so expensive.
[03:17] <domoking> I just downloaded my ati drivers and the extension is .run How would I run this?
[03:17] <whyso> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[03:17] <whyso> i cant start any package managers
[03:17] <whyso> who to fix?
[03:17] <Flannel> scott_: it's automated, it's console based, but it's a curses GUI thing
[03:17] <whyso> how*
[03:18] <Jobberwacky> Zambezi, if it's not detected and set up automatically, it can be done manually and it's fine
[03:18] <scott_> thanx alot I'll look it up; and burn at 4x
[03:18] <AWOSDev> nba, do you have libdvdcss2?
[03:18] <nba> AWOSDEV: where can i find that?
[03:19] <whyso> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed i cant open any package managers, how do i fix this? help appreciated
[03:19] <Zambezi> Jobberwacky, That's good to know. Cause I'm thinking about a widescreen my low accesstime, DVI and maybe some input like s-video.
[03:19] <AmIyourJuliet> hello everyone
[03:19] <nba> AWOSDEV: sorry im a newbie here
[03:19] <Flannel> !libdvdcss
[03:19] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:19] <Adam_G> Hi all. If I have something using up 100% "id" CPU in top, how do I find out what's the runaway process?
[03:19] <Adam_G> whoops
[03:19] <Adam_G> that would be idle...
[03:20] <AmIyourJuliet> I'm having trouble with my ubuntu installation.  I installed off the 6.06 dvd and it completed successfully, but GRUB doesn't boot.  It just loads windows XP without showing GRUB
[03:20] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[03:20] <whyso> ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed i cant open any package managers, how do i fix this? help appreciated
[03:20] <SonicvanaJr> Hey, for some reason none of my network interfaces are being brought up automatically, any ideas ?
[03:20] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window across an x server?
[03:20] <Flannel> Adam_G: what you have to do is run a bunch of things, and they'll all gang up and beat up the run away "idle" process
[03:20] <AWOSDev> whyso -- Have you tried apt-get?  aptitude?  Synaptic?  adept?
[03:20] <AWOSDev> Flannel LOL
[03:21] <autoklauen> ok lol , in another way , how do i defeat the logical blocks i get toward trying to run the install cs
[03:21] <autoklauen> cd*
[03:21] <Adam_G> Flannel, do you have to rub it in? :P
[03:21] <whyso> yeah, they boot with sudo and command line, but most package adds dont work
[03:21] <AmIyourJuliet> anyone have a clue why GRUB doesn't boot after a fresh install for me?
[03:22] <domoking> I just downloaded my ati drivers and the extension is .run Can someone show me how to run this please?
[03:22] <AmIyourJuliet> i had the installer autopartition, and it installed within the 1024 cylinder boundary
[03:22] <puff> I'm having problems getting 802.11 to work with wpa passsphrase.
[03:22] <wastrel> my foot hurts
[03:22] <AWOSDev> AmIyourJuliet -- that only applies to NT4.
[03:22] <Trae> :(
[03:22] <Trae> I feel trapped...
[03:23] <AWOSDev> wastrel, go to a doctor then. :)
[03:23] <Flannel> whyso: you have python-subversion installed?
[03:23] <AWOSDev> Trae, then use /quit :)
[03:23] <Trae> My Ubuntu is broken, yet all the other distro's are crap compared to Ubuntu.
[03:23] <Trae> *sigh*
[03:23] <whyso> i think so, whats apt to get those
[03:23] <Flannel> whyso: you wan't to remove them, it's a buggy package
[03:23] <AmIyourJuliet> AWOSDev: what else could it be?  I've installed ubuntu before off CD's without an issue.  This time I used the DVD and it won't load GRUB.  I tried flatten/reinstall - same thing!
[03:23] <Flannel> whyso: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/55641
[03:23] <nba> AWOSDev: how to get the libdvdcss2?
[03:23] <whyso> k
[03:23] <whyso> thanks
[03:23] <Trae> https://launchpad.net/bugs/22336
[03:23] <Flannel> !tell nba about libdvdcss
[03:23] <AWOSDev> nba, did you look at the bot?
[03:23] <Trae> this bug is very very painful
[03:23] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window across an x server?
[03:24] <Flannel> gameman73: you mean like from one X server to another?
[03:24] <nba> AWOSDev: what's a bot
[03:24] <AWOSDev> AmIyourJuliet, IDK.
[03:24] <AWOSDev> !bot
[03:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[03:24] <scott_> Is there any way to download dapper alt iso from some where faster than 10kb/s?
[03:24] <mikm[laptop] > bittorrent?
[03:24] <gameman73> Flannel: yeah, like i can login remotely via xdmcp, and move windows from my xdmcp login to my local login
[03:24] <AWOSDev> nba, ^^that's a bot, his name is Ubotu.
[03:24] <domoking> I just downloaded my ati drivers and the extension is .run Can someone show me how to run this please?
[03:25] <nba> AWOSDev: uh yeah i see that, but i don't know how to get over it
[03:25] <Flannel> gameman73: I don't believe so.  I'm not all knowing though ;)
[03:25] <jmark> anyone know how I might see what modules were loaded by a livecd and with what parameters?
[03:26] <AWOSDev> nba, type this into your IRC.          !libdvdcss
[03:26] <AWOSDev> then the bot will tell you how to get it :)
[03:26] <nba> !libdvdcss
[03:26] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:26] <Flannel> domoking: what's wrong with the packaged versions?
[03:27] <AWOSDev> Why was my bot edit denied?
[03:27] <scott_> domoking, should have instructions on ati.com or google it(I think its something like /path sh./nameofinstaller.run)
[03:27] <jrib> AWOSDev: it gets sent to #ubuntu-ops and then has to be approved by someone there
[03:27] <domoking> flannel: I am just trying to reinstall my video drivers thats all. I am getting lagginess during splash screens in ubuntu
[03:28] <AWOSDev> Oh okay thanks jrib.
[03:28] <domoking> flannel: i am pretty sure my system can handle them not too sure what is the problem
[03:28] <puff> I'm trying to set up wpa following the steps here: http://fredericiana.com/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/
[03:28] <autoklauen> mmm, not to be a pestilence . i have installed ubuntu on my 2 good coms , and now only have left an elder use.. still is win machine, on which i also like to install ubunto on., but when i insert and try to boot the install / desktop cd it bugs me with logical block *and digets* - if i somehow can defeat this block and install ub id be glad.
[03:28] <whyso> how do i remove the buggy subversion package without apt?
[03:28] <AmIyourJuliet> Is there any way to check if GRUB was installed?  I installed Ubuntu succesfully, but it just boots straight to XP
[03:28] <puff> But I think it's not working.
[03:29] <catalytic> can someone help me install firmware for my wireless?
[03:29] <Flannel> domoking: right, but what's wrong with the aTI drivers from the repositories?
[03:29] <catalytic> i have downloaded the correct drivers and firmware, but not sure what to do next
[03:30] <domoking> flannel: nothing I have them installed right now. I guess I'm just trying trial and error for my problem.
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> will the system still operate even if the memory and swap partition fill up?
[03:30] <domoking> flannel: do you have experience with the ati drivers?
[03:30] <AWOSDev> catalytic, extract the file you downloaded to /lib/firmware
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> I know that sounds like the dumbest question ever
[03:30] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window across an x server?
[03:30] <Flannel> domoking: no.  But, the ATI drivers you download from their site are the same ones in the repositories
[03:31] <AWOSDev> GhostFreeman, slowly but it should.
[03:31] <domoking> flannel: ok. What do you think I should do to fix my problem? I'm outta ideas. I appreicate your help by the way thanks
[03:31] <AWOSDev> GhostFreeman, things wouldn't open with error ENOMEM.
[03:31] <gameman73> Flannel: i thought the ones on the site were slightly newer
[03:31] <catalytic> ok
[03:31] <GhostFreeman> I figured as much
[03:31] <AWOSDev> GhostFreeman, Thankfully, I haven't had that problem yet
[03:31] <AWOSDev> :)
[03:31] <GhostFreeman> well I am about to
[03:32] <GhostFreeman> xgl is mostly to blame
[03:32] <catalytic> then what do i do once i have done that/
[03:32] <catalytic> do i need drivers and the firmware?
[03:32] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[03:33] <puff> Hm, okay, so the wpa stuff did work, but I have three gnome-network-manager icons.
[03:33] <puff> in my system tray.
[03:33] <AWOSDev> catalytic, well, you do the drivers now, configure them or install them or whatever.
[03:33] <catalytic> http://forums.ralinktech.com.tw/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2335
[03:33] <catalytic> i have a dlink dwl-g630
[03:33] <GmDude66> sudo: setuid must be /root
[03:33] <GmDude66>  wdf does that mean..
[03:34] <LjL> GhostFreeman, AWOSDev: err, actually, afaik, when you're in an out-of-memory situation in Linux, processes just start getting killed randomly (besides the fact that most programs are just not prepared to deal with a denied malloc...)
[03:34] <catalytic> and this one is supposed to be using the r261 chipset
[03:34] <gameman73> is it possible to move a window across an x server?
[03:34] <catalytic> i have downloaded the sorry the RT61
[03:34] <aedinius> gameman73: There is xmove, but it doesn't work so well. So in short, no.
[03:34] <catalytic> drivers and firmware
[03:34] <catalytic> and now im not sure how to install these onto my system
 sudo: setuid must be /root
[03:34] <GmDude66> ...
[03:34] <AWOSDev> LjL, really?  /me didn't know that.
[03:35] <LjL> AWOSDev: http://lwn.net/Articles/49531/ looks interesting for instance
[03:35] <gameman73> xmove...   ok ill look into it, thanks aedinius
[03:35] <AWOSDev> LjL, bad programming pratice not to prepare for a denied malloc().
[03:35] <LjL> AWOSDev: yeah, doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time though
[03:35] <domoking> flannel: i found my error
[03:35] <domoking> what is that program to paste your error in irc?
[03:35] <domoking> pastebin!
[03:35] <Flannel> !paste
[03:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:36] <domoking> thanks
[03:36] <AWOSDev> catalytic, all I can say is follow the README.
[03:36] <catalytic> the readme that came with it only had version updates
[03:37] <catalytic> the release notes
[03:38] <ianmacgregor> How do I change my display manager back to gdm?
[03:38] <catalytic> found a readme :P thanks
[03:38] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: sudo update-alternatives gdm
[03:39] <AWOSDev> catalytic good...np :)
[03:39] <autoklauen> i try again and ask tomorrow then :)
[03:39] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: update-alternatives: unknown argument `gdm'
[03:39] <puff> Still trying to get wireless with wpa working.   sigh.
[03:39] <jeffreyb> I have been looking at both Ubuntu & Kubuntu (Edgy)... I think the fonts look better in Ubuntu. Is that possible or are my eyes playing tricks?
[03:40] <Flannel> ianmacgregor: sorry, wrong configuration thing.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:41] <domoking> I am typing in "bash ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" I get no such file. But its right on my desktop.
[03:42] <ianmacgregor> Flannel: That didn't work either. Is there a file I can just manually edit to change from kdm to gdm?
[03:42] <AWOSDev> LjL, that was an interesting read (including comments), especially for an OS dever such as myself :)
[03:42] <Rondom> ianmacgregor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:42] <catalytic> in the readme it uses a command dos2unix
[03:42] <catalytic> i dont think I have this
[03:42] <johnficca> is there a way to get the gnome desktop icons to line up on the right ?
[03:43] <catalytic> do i need to install this first?
[03:43] <phlux> How well does ubuntu play with laptops? :o
[03:43] <LjL> AWOSDev: see also http://lwn.net/Articles/104179/ as to "why that can happen" (basically, the kernel commits to providing memory it doesn't necessarily have)
[03:43] <ianmacgregor> Rondom: That doesn't work
[03:43] <Rondom> ianmacgregor: why does this not work? any error-msg?
[03:43] <Squeee> Has anyone here used airpwn before?
[03:44] <AWOSDev> LjL, ew...why would it do that?  My OS (at Build 9) doesn't even do that.
[03:44] <domoking> flannel: I am typing in "bash ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" I get no such file. But its right on my desktop.
[03:44] <J03> anyone familiar with recovering a corrupt region with EVMS?  i simulated a crash in vmware while shrinking a raid5 array.  when i rebooted it shows up as an available object (though corrupt) instead of a volume now
[03:44] <ianmacgregor> Rondom: invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[03:45] <J03> it recovered fine by itself when i crashed it during an expand operation
[03:45] <Rondom> ianmacgregor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:45] <Celeste> hi
[03:45] <LjL> AWOSDev: it does that on purpose. see the article -- when programs fork, *in theory* the new instance has a copy of the memory. in practice, generally, the memory is just shared with the parent. but if the child actually starts writing to its memory, the kernel has to satisfy it (can't just say "no, we're out of memory" -- the malloc's already been done)
[03:46] <Celeste> can I preview the contents of a  *.zip and of a  *.tar.gz  file in the shell without unpacking it?
[03:46] <aedinius> Celeste: YEs.
[03:46] <Celeste> how?
[03:46] <aedinius> Celeste: tar -zvft
[03:46] <LjL> AWOSDev: in a system designed differently (such as, scrap the idea of "forking" processes and have just threads, and possibly other things), this problem would probably not even exist
[03:46] <aedinius> I forget for zip, I belive it's -t as well
[03:46] <domoking> I'm typing "bash ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper" I get no such file. But its right on my desktop. can someone help me?
[03:47] <Celeste> thank you aedinius
[03:47] <aedinius> Not a prob.
[03:47] <Rondom> Celeste: : for zip-file do zipinfo zipfile.zip
[03:47] <AWOSDev> LjL, no basically on my OS (as I said it's only at 0.0.9), if a process fork()ed and we didn't have enough memory, the fork() would fail.
[03:47] <Celeste> Rondom: thank you :)
[03:47] <AWOSDev> with ENOMEM.
[03:48] <finsta> Hello people
[03:48] <finsta> I got a question
[03:48] <finsta> It's a weird, weird problem with a T42 Thinkpad
[03:48] <LjL> AWOSDev: well, you take the conservative approach. but in that case, you refuse the malloc() even when the forked process would possibly have done fine without forcing you to do many copies-on-write at all
[03:49] <finsta> I can't resize partitions using PartitionMagic or Disk Director, and it kills the partition
[03:49] <LjL> AWOSDev: just see how some daemons on linux can spawn dozens of forked processes... you'd "run out of memory" (though you wouldn't really) in no time, following your approach
[03:49] <gl0be> how do I reconfigure xserver when installing a new video card?  Onboard intel -> agp nvidia
[03:49] <AWOSDev> LjL, yes but you have a performance gain by doing copy-on-fork.
[03:50] <AWOSDev> LjL, besides that, my OS will 9 outta 10 have different daemons :)
[03:51] <LjL> AWOSDev: and that is the point. if Linux was designed "your" way, the people developing daemons and other software would probably have made different assumptions, resulting in different behavior of their programs
[03:51] <AWOSDev> LjL very true.
[03:51] <LjL> AWOSDev: but as it is, if you just made Linux use a copy-on-fork approach and bail out when the sum of allocated pages is bigger than the memory, i guess just about everything would break
[03:51] <synphreak> Well... i gave in and tried ndiswrapper again, and wireless is working fine now.  Guess I'll wait for edgy to try native drivers.
[03:52] <AWOSDev> LjL heh
[03:52] <AWOSDev> e
[03:54] <ChickenTalons> ok, whats the problem with the screensaver? it really didnt do my LCD monitor any favors
[03:55] <ChickenTalons> it did something very evil and my monitor was unable to keep the picture up
[03:55] <AWOSDev> ChickenTalons what did it do?
[03:56] <Lock-Dog> re
[03:56] <ChickenTalons> AWOSDev, apparently the "power management" in the x86-64 screensaver package did something and made my lcd monitor very angry. For an hour or so it would turn on, and only show the pic for 1-2 secs then go into blank screen
[03:57] <ChickenTalons> i had to uplug the thing for 10-15 minutes before it worked properly again
[03:57] <AWOSDev> ChickenTalons, hmm, interesting.
[03:57] <AWOSDev> Is there a dev in the house?
[03:58] <AWOSDev> !dev
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <Lock-Dog> I mounted NTFS hd...I can see all the folders and files that in English. But the ones that is in russian i can`t. Why so?!
[03:58] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog, if you mounted it with the "mount" command, did you insure the UTF-8 option was enabled?
[03:59] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog are the file names in Russian or just the file contents?
[03:59] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog did you use Nautilus?  Konqueror?  or the CLI?
[03:59] <Lock-Dog> How do i enable UTF-8 option?
[03:59] <Lock-Dog> I`ll show you what i wrote in /etc/fstab
[03:59] <Lock-Dog> min
[04:00] <Wheelybin> Dumb xchat question, but it's not showing a list of users, and /ubotu doesn't work. I want to ask it about samba
[04:00] <Lock-Dog> /dev/hda1 /windows/C ntfs ro,uid=1000,auto 0 0
[04:00] <Wheelybin> and well, i'd like the username list to show up
[04:00] <Lock-Dog> /dev/hda5 /E/Media ntfs ro,uid=1000,auto 0 0
[04:01] <Lock-Dog> Before that i made the dirs
[04:01] <Lock-Dog> that`s it.
[04:01] <Lock-Dog> Can`t see anything in russian in the ntfs drives.
[04:01] <Lock-Dog> How do i enable UTF-8 option?
[04:02] <whyso> hi, if i installed edgy eft now could i upgrade when the new version came out without having to reinstall
[04:02] <Wheelybin> !samba
[04:02] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:03] <AWOSDev> whyso Thank you I've been wanting to know too.  Anybody know?
[04:03] <Byan> wtf.. how do I copy the contents of one file to another?>
[04:04] <Lock-Dog> AWOSDev, do you have an answer for me? ;)
[04:04] <totall_6_7> Byan: ctrl-c and ctrl-v
[04:04] <totall_6_7> Byan: ctrl-a ctrl-c and ctrl-v
[04:04] <whyso> can you upgrade ubuntu versions without having reinstall? anyone know?
[04:05] <asdfasdf> what is the edgy channel?
[04:05] <Lock-Dog> Ne1 can help?
[04:06] <asdfasdf> can anyone tell me what channel edgy is discussed on?
[04:07] <totall_6_7> #ubuntu-1
[04:07] <asdfasdf> thanks
[04:07] <asdfasdf> totall_6_7: there is no one in that channel
[04:08] <fluxinator> how do I make firestarter start as soon as I boot ubuntu?
[04:08] <totall_6_7> sorry mate #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <nicholaspaul> nalioth: hi there!
[04:09] <Wazm> Hello
[04:09] <kanedaddy> yo
[04:09] <nicholaspaul> :D
[04:09] <nalioth> hi nicholaspaul
[04:09] <fluxinator> anyone know?
[04:09] <puff> yay, it worked this time around.
[04:10] <puff> The keyring passphrase popup must have gotten lost beneath a window the first time.
[04:10] <W9ZEB-Lars> !skype
[04:10] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:11] <W9ZEB-Lars> !nonfree
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <fluxinator> nalioth would you know how I make firestarter start up upon booting ubunut
[04:11] <fluxinator> *ubuntu
[04:11] <W9ZEB-Lars> what's the one for non-free formats?
[04:11] <Wazm> dunno
[04:11] <nicholaspaul> I'm having trouble with my hd filling up... it's apparently 87% full. i'm thinking BitTorrent might have had something to do with it, but i made sure i used my other HD for that. how can i clear up files? where to start?
[04:11] <W9ZEB-Lars> !mp3
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <df> Winamp not Running
[04:11] <nicholaspaul> are there some temp file i can get rid of?
[04:12] <nalioth> fluxinator: system > sessions and add it to your startup
[04:12] <fluxinator> I mean while the kernel is booting
[04:12] <fluxinator> not when I log into gnome
[04:12] <puff> Now i just need to get gtkpod working with my ipod and I'll be happy.
[04:13] <fluxinator> puff gtkpod works flawlessly for me
[04:14] <Artemis3> Hey there, whats your favorite app for cd/dvd burning?
[04:14] <ArrenLex> k3b
[04:14] <fluxinator> Artemis3, kb, graveman and gnomebaker
[04:15] <nicholaspaul> K3b or Gnomebaker
[04:15] <fluxinator> k3b sorry
[04:15] <nicholaspaul> or Roxio Toast :D
[04:15] <fluxinator> aack!
[04:15] <ArrenLex> I like buttered toast, myself.
[04:15] <ArrenLex> Roxio tastes like feet.
[04:15] <nicholaspaul> lol
[04:15] <W9ZEB-Lars> what's the default sound manager for DappeR?
[04:15] <W9ZEB-Lars> is it oss or alsa?
[04:15] <ArrenLex> alsa
[04:15] <Artemis3> hmm Gnomebaker is too simple and because of cdrecord doesnt handle multisession dvds
[04:15] <fluxinator> I just wanted to get this damn thing to run as soon as I turn it on
[04:16] <W9ZEB-Lars> ArrenLex: thanks.
[04:16] <fluxinator> Artemis3, then its k3b for you
[04:16] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog still there?
[04:16] <Artemis3> whats this graveman?
[04:16] <nicholaspaul> I need to go thru my system and find the big files i can get rid of... is there a GUI for that?
[04:16] <Artemis3> yes most likely k3b just wanted to poll ;)
[04:16] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog, after the word 'defaults' add a ',utf8'
[04:16] <j-swim> hey folks is there a good place for edgy repos to add to a source.lst?
[04:16] <AWOSDev> Lock-Dog now it should say 'defaults,utf8'
[04:16] <Stargazers> Hi. I installed just Edgy Eft, but when I now start programs, there is now borders in windows. Any ideas?
[04:17] <fluxinator> you might try brasero Artemis3
[04:17] <fluxinator> and http://graveman.tuxfamily.org/
[04:17] <Artemis3> brasero? lets see
[04:17] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, Uh, are they maximized?
[04:17] <Stargazers> AWOSDev: Nope. There is no borders at all, I mean, window manager seems to be buggy?
[04:17] <Stargazers> I mean, there is no titlebars etc.
[04:18] <BDerwent> can anyone tell me how to make a startup script that loads the dvorak keymap?
[04:18] <BDerwent> google has failed me
[04:18] <edju> Installed CUPS, yet I don't have /etc/cups/client.conf.  I need it to set up the client.  Any  clue for the clueless appreciated.
[04:18] <tekian> Is there a way to configure twinview with both an external monitor and tv-out? (Not active at the same time, but just having them in the same config file without having to switch)
[04:18] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, ohhh, you said there is "now borders"...I thought you meant that there were borders that weren't there before.  okay must think...
[04:19] <fluxinator> Artemis3, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1158
[04:19] <Stargazers> Yep.
[04:19] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, is the menubar there?
[04:19] <Stargazers> I can't move windowses etc of course, also I have no "maximize", "minimize" and "Close" buttons.
[04:19] <Stargazers> Menubars, yes. at least on this window :P
[04:19] <fluxinator> how do I get firestarter to automatically start up (assuming as a daemon)
[04:19] <cycom> this is the most irritating problem.  I have a logitech Cordless Desktop Optical keyboard, and I can't get the keymap to change/work.  It seems stuck on some screwy config where volume up works, but volume down will rightclick/something else and act goofy
[04:20] <cycom> How can I reset my keyboard stuff to when I first installed ubuntu?
[04:20] <Artemis3> both brasero and graveman look interesting
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Stargazers okay right-click on it in the taskbar/kicker/task list/whatever you want to call it.
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, then press "Maximize"
[04:20] <Stargazers> I use Gnome.
[04:20] <wastrel> Stargazers:  maybe try changing your theme
[04:20] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, I know, whatever you people call it.
[04:21] <jrib> fluxinator: there is no need, firestart is just a frontend to create rules for iptables
[04:21] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, also since this is an Edgy Eft problem, try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <BelialMkII> cycom,: Is that the keyboard that projects an image ontop your desk? I seen that online and was wondering how well it worked. I kinda forseen callouses building on my fingers quick. Cant answer your question im afraid, but curious none the less
[04:21] <Stargazers> wastrel: Hard to change, 'cause I can't use Gnome's menu because this terminal menu is on it's place and I have to close this before I can try antrhing.
[04:21] <Stargazers> AWOSDev: Oh, thx. Have to join on that channel.
[04:21] <kyja> I realy need to figure out how to get bluetooth working so I can xfer with sony ericsson z520
[04:21] <kyja> !bluetooth
[04:21] <fluxinator> jrib and my configurations to iptables disappear when I do not have firestarter running
[04:21] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:21] <cycom> BelialMkII: nah dude.  Just a wirelss keyboard and mouse
[04:21] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, or wait until the 26th for the release version :)
[04:21] <wastrel> Stargazers:  alt-f2  and run  gnome-theme-manager
[04:21] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, np
[04:21] <cycom> which I am about to fling out a window.
[04:22] <Stargazers> wastrel: Shortcut Alt + F2 does not work ^^.
[04:22] <BelialMkII> Least it wont take your machine with it :-/
[04:22] <jrib> fluxinator: no, they shouldn't
[04:22] <cycom> BelialMkII: HAHAHA! Ok, that makes me feel better.
[04:22] <fluxinator> jrib , they do
[04:22] <ArrenLex> cycom: is there anything in your ~/.xmodmaprc?
[04:22] <AWOSDev> BelialMkII hehe
[04:22] <Flannel> Stargazers: then programs > accessories > terminal and type that in
[04:23] <Stargazers> Oh, there is packages what wasn't installed in some reason, mmh... Have to try to install them now.
[04:23] <cycom> ArrenLex: that doesn't exist.
[04:23] <joaquinz> hi does anybody know whats the ubuntu's x config tool name?
[04:23] <Stargazers> Well, I try to change a theme but only icons etc chnages.
[04:23] <cycom> Though that makes me want to try logging in as a diff user!
[04:23] <cycom> hold on
[04:23] <Stargazers> No borders on windowses still.
[04:23] <jrib> fluxinator: hmm, how did you check?
[04:24] <Stargazers> What is the default "window manager" in gnome called?
[04:24] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, so you can't see the task thingy either?
[04:24] <joaquinz> ?
[04:24] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, Metacity.
[04:24] <J-_> when running a stand alone server, the server having an internal static ip, should i also have an internal static ip on my desktop too?
[04:24] <Stargazers> Well, there is no process called "Metacity" or like that.
[04:24] <Stargazers> Oh!
[04:25] <Stargazers> I run it myself and now it started :O
[04:25] <joaquinz> hi does anybody know whats the ubuntu's x config tool name?
[04:25] <Stargazers> AWOSDev: Thank you, I typed on terminal "metacity &" and now I have borders on my windowses :)
[04:25] <wastrel> joaquinz:  sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <mluser-home> how do I find out what package belongs to a certain file? forexample I want to know what package belongs to /usr/bin/synce-serial-start
[04:25] <AWOSDev> Stargazers LOL np :)
[04:26] <fluxinator> lets see. I have a few social networking sites banned, and icmp filtering enabled. I use shields up to test the firewall (and other tools) and I know that icmp is not blocked and neither are the websites that I blacklisted when firestarter is not running
[04:26] <Wheelybin> Hello there. Can someone tell me about the Ubuntu's filesystem? I'm trying to restart samba using this command /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
[04:26] <Flannel> mluser-home: packages.ubuntu.com has that functionality, that's porbably easiest
[04:26] <ArrenLex> mluser: can't give you any better ideas than to search for that filename on packages.ubuntu.com (or packages.debian.org, which is a TON faster and has almost the same packages)
[04:26] <AWOSDev> joaquinz, uh where?  You should find it in the Settings-> menu.
[04:26] <snoop> hmm I installed nmapfe and I cant use OS detection it says I need root, but Iam root, do I need to chmod it?
[04:26] <Stargazers> AWOSDev: Any idea what might be the reason that it doesn't load it on startup, eww?
[04:26] <shuan> anyone know why my frostwire doesnt load when i start it
[04:26] <ArrenLex> Whelybin: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[04:26] <mluser-home> thanks.. I was hoping I could do it with dpkg though
[04:26] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, no clue.  personally I use KDE.
[04:26] <joaquinz> AWOSDev: i cant use the X :)
[04:26] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, when I did use GNOME it loaded by itself though :)
[04:27] <Stargazers> Oh.
[04:27] <snoop> hmm I installed nmapfe and I cant use OS detection it says I need root, but Iam root, do I need to chmod it?
[04:27] <ArrenLex> joaquinz: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then.
[04:27] <AWOSDev> joaquinz, ahhhhhhh: xorg --configure IIRC
[04:27] <Stargazers> Have to try to look around to find a way :)
[04:27] <Stargazers> But anyway, thank you all for help. I ask if (=when) I have more problems :D
[04:27] <darnell_> is there a way to take the protection off of a song i downloaded from msn music
[04:27] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, you may add it to your xinitrc though that is a little, uh, not the best way
[04:27] <darnell_> ?
[04:27] <AWOSDev> Stargazers, no problem :)
[04:28] <Wheelybin> thankyou arrenlex
[04:28] <fluxinator> jrib any Ideas?
[04:28] <ArrenLex> darnell: not legally, and not in Linux, AFAIK. There are ways in Windows where you have the keys available.
[04:28] <cycom> Ug.Same for other users.  So it's a universal setting
[04:28] <ArrenLex> darnell: google WMFairuse? I for
[04:28] <ArrenLex> No, not that.
[04:28] <ArrenLex> FairUse4WM
[04:29] <AdamMK> !restricted
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <cycom> Ugh.  It worked in breezy, why not in dapper?
[04:29] <julian> how do you install ntfs write driver
[04:29] <MrKrrtft> hi folks
[04:29] <ArrenLex> !tell julian about fuse
[04:29] <ArrenLex> !hi
[04:29] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:30] <etzerd> Hello all
[04:30] <julian> fuse?
[04:30] <MrKrrtft> !tell mrkrrtft about sound
[04:30] <etzerd> is anyone know when the new version of ubuntu will be release?
[04:30] <Flannel> etzerd: the 26th
[04:30] <Flannel> !fuse
[04:30] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:30] <fluxinator> Flannel, of this month?
[04:30] <julian> is it better than 3g
[04:30] <Flannel> fluxinator: 6.10, so yes.
[04:31] <Stargazers> Btw, is Firefox startup time very slow in your firefox? It takes almost 15 sec for me to load Firefox.
[04:31] <Stargazers> Ok, I love opera anyway much more.
[04:31] <Stargazers> But just in question...
[04:31] <fluxinator> Stargazers, I removed firefox
[04:31] <ubuntu12> I can't unmount a drive
[04:31] <ubuntu12> umount: /mnt/iso: device is busy
[04:31] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Do you use Opera?
[04:31] <ArrenLex> Stargazers: you're probably running a really old machine.
[04:31] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: fuser -m /mnt/iso will tell you what's using it.
[04:31] <Stargazers> ArrenLex: 1.5Ghz, 768MB.
[04:31] <fluxinator> Stargazers, yes I do
[04:31] <AWOSDev> Stargazers. 15 secs would be fast for me :)
[04:32] <etzerd> thanks Flannel
[04:32] <ArrenLex> Stargazers: Firefox took about 10 seconds to start in Linux on my old 1.6GhZ, 256MB P4 box.
[04:32] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Oh, I use it also BUT I have lost it's menubar in somewhere (I can't see "File", "Edit" etc menus).
[04:32] <ArrenLex> GHz *
[04:32] <DJ_Danni> hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly?
[04:32] <ubuntu12> /mnt/iso:             5946c
[04:32] <Stargazers> ArrenLex: O-_o.
[04:32] <ubuntu12> what does that mean?
[04:32] <MrKrrtft> Sound Card Question: My sound card isn't being detected at all.  I have a PII with a soundblaster card.  I don't remember the command to detect my sound card so I know what module to load.  Any ideas?
[04:32] <fluxinator> Stargazers lemme take a look
[04:32] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: process 5946 is what's using it.
[04:32] <ubuntu12> hmm
[04:32] <ubuntu12> k
[04:32] <ubuntu12> I am trying to install UT2k4 off an image
[04:32] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Do you want that I take a screenshot?
[04:32] <ubuntu12> and, it asked for the second CD
[04:33] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: use "ps 5946" to find out what it is.
[04:33] <fluxinator> Stargazers, view menu dude, see if that helps
[04:33] <|in70x|> I need some freed back on ubuntu fellas
[04:33] <ubuntu12> but I can't unmount the first
[04:33] <|in70x|> to make me consider switching
[04:33] <|in70x|> does it install kernel source
[04:33] <|in70x|> ?
[04:33] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: if it's something you don't need, you can kill it with "kill 5946"
[04:33] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me wit that??
[04:33] <|in70x|> at install
[04:33] <Stargazers> fluxinator: View menu, but the problem is that I have no any menu?
[04:33] <Stargazers> So I can't go on View menu :D
[04:33] <ubuntu12> it says "bash" is using it
[04:33] <ArrenLex> in70x: no. You can install source by going "apt-get install linux-kernel-source"
[04:33] <ArrenLex> ubuntu12: then your shell is currently browsing that folder.
[04:33] <fluxinator> you dont have file, view and those things?
[04:33] <ubuntu12> ok
[04:34] <ubuntu12> thanks
[04:34] <DJ_Danni> hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly?
[04:34] <Stargazers> http://stargazers.kapsi.fi/screenshots/opera_without_menus.png
[04:34] <Stargazers> That is the screenshot.
[04:34] <ubuntu12> arrenlex: thanks thanks thanks
[04:35] <fluxinator> Stargazers, right click and select customize
[04:35] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?
[04:35] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Yes? And then?
[04:36] <cycom> Grr.  It seems to think volume down is button 2 (as in mouse button 2)
[04:36] <ArrenLex> cycom: on the keyboard?
[04:36] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me?????
[04:37] <cycom> ArrenLex: correct. xev tells me this
[04:37] <Vuen> hey all, simple question, my computer is currently called nick-desktop
[04:37] <Vuen> how can i change the name to just nick?
[04:37] <lwarimav> Hi all I've just configure my /etc/sudoer, and then I do not know how to activate it
[04:37] <lwarimav> Can anyone help?
[04:37] <ArrenLex> Screwy.
[04:37] <Vuen> lwarimav, did you edit it with visudo?
[04:37] <wastrel> lwarimav:  did you use visudo to edit it?
[04:37] <Vuen> <.< >.>
[04:37] <wastrel> <3 vuen
[04:38] <fluxinator> stargazers give me a second to find out what the hell is going on
[04:38] <cycom> ArrenLex: It's a combination receiver for the mouse/keyboard, but I don't see why that would be a problem
[04:38] <DJ_Danni> Hello can somone help me??
[04:38] <lwarimav> Vuen, no i just use the command sudo vi /etc/sudoer....
[04:38] <Stargazers> fluxinator: Ok :)
[04:38] <ArrenLex> Vuen: man hostname
[04:38] <wastrel> Vuen:  you need to change the hostname in /etc/hosts  and /etc/hostname  but sudo will break once you do one so sudo su first so you can get them both done without locking yourself out of super user
[04:38] <steveneddy> when will the xorg 7.1 be relaesed for Dapper?
[04:38] <Lock-Dog> Ufff
[04:39] <Vuen> wastrel, ArrenLex, thanks
[04:39] <Lock-Dog> Can`t see russian folders or files in mounted ntfs hd`s :(((( Ne1 can hlp pls?
[04:39] <wastrel> ah hostname  well if we're using commands ;]
[04:39] <cycom> ArrenLex: It's insane.  Button 2 is the middle mouse button.  Why would volume down = middle mouse button?
[04:39] <DJ_Danni> Can somone help me here?
[04:39] <lwarimav> wastrel, i use sudo vi /etc/sudoers
[04:39] <ArrenLex> wastrel: better than "this might lock you out of your shell so good luck ;)"
[04:39] <Vuen> !ask > DJ_Danni
[04:39] <jspiro> wastrel: visudo is better.
[04:39] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: you have to use visudo as root.
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> Have try 3 times
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> a
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> a
[04:40] <DJ_Danni> hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly?
[04:40] <ArrenLex> lwarmiav: how on earth did you miss this line in that file? "# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root."
[04:40] <lwarimav> Arenlex: how will i do that? I'm a beguinner in debian linux
[04:40] <steveneddy> & a bad speller at that
[04:41] <Lock-Dog> /dev/hda1 /windows/C ntfs ro,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=CP1251,unicode
[04:41] <fluxinator> Stargazers, http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=752
[04:41] <Lock-Dog> Still it isn`ty working :(
[04:41] <Lock-Dog> WHy?
[04:41] <Stargazers> LMS.
[04:41] <cycom> what's a way to pull keyboard chars without X? like xev but from a console?
[04:41] <DJ_Danni> Vuen hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly?
[04:41] <Stargazers> fluxinator: <3 <3 <3 <3 <3!
[04:41] <fluxinator> Stargazers just hit alt+f11
[04:41] <Stargazers> THANK YOU! \o/
[04:41] <Stargazers> It work!
[04:41] <Stargazers> Ahuhuhu!
[04:41] <mfuentes> xserver-xorg-video-i810 or xserver-xorg-video-intel?? what's the best for a 945GM?
[04:41] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: how do you do what? Use the visudo command as root?
[04:42] <Stargazers> Oh, I really Love you dude :O
[04:42] <fluxinator> Stargazers, one more thing
[04:42] <Stargazers> I have tried to fix that many times.
[04:42] <Stargazers> Ok, tell me? :)
[04:42] <Lock-Dog> Excuse me... No one knows?!?!?!?!?
[04:42] <lwarimav> Arrenlex: How will i do that ? I am a beguinner in linux...
[04:42] <Lock-Dog> 834 users and no one can help, unbelievable....!!!!
[04:42] <fluxinator> take a look at http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ for the latest builds of opera for ubuntu
[04:42] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: then what are you doing in the sudoers file?
[04:43] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: by typing "sudo visudo". If you're a beginner, make sure you have guides to help you so you don't screw it up, because sudoers is kind of important on Ubuntu.
[04:43] <ablyss> anyone by chance able to purchase a full copy of Unreal Tournament 2004 for linux, if so, can you tell me where you bought it at so I can buy it too
[04:43] <Stargazers> Ok, have to look :)
[04:43] <jspiro> Lock-Dog: most are spectators. try the mailing lists instead: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[04:43] <SuperMiguel> can any one help me with a mail server?
[04:44] <nosoapdotorg> can anyone help me with subversion..?? pm if you are up for it
[04:44] <nosoapdotorg> just real quick
[04:44] <DJ_Danni> hey i need help with MySQL extension it is noat work correctly. how can i get it to work correctly? Can somone help me with this or noat????????????
[04:44] <fluxinator> http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/Weekly-434/intel-linux/en/opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb is the link for build 434 on linux, precisely it can be used for dapper
[04:44] <nosoapdotorg> thanks
[04:44] <jspiro> Lock-Dog: IRC is good when it works but can be an unreliable support mechanism. also, try channel ##linux, i like it.
[04:44] <Vuen> yay
[04:44] <Vuen> changed my hostname
[04:44] <Vuen> sudo seems to still work
[04:44] <jspiro> DJ_Danni: if you have no luck here, try #mysql or try the ubuntu mailing lists instead: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[04:44] <jspiro> nosoapdotorg: most of us not help people by PM.
[04:45] <wastrel> mysql extension for apache?
[04:45] <wastrel> use the lamp howto
[04:45] <Lock-Dog> 10x
[04:45] <jspiro> Lock-Dog: what is 10x?
[04:45] <Lock-Dog> Thanx
[04:45] <wastrel> heh
[04:46] <lwarimav> Arrenlex: after sudo vi /etc/sudoer, and after bringing some changes in it, I do now how to get out of config. and activate it... It there a command that I can use to quit /etc/sudoer ?
[04:46] <Stargazers> Opera <3. Ah, so much better than anything.
[04:46] <nosoapdotorg> k...
[04:46] <q83> Hey, I was wondering if there was a way to edit my login screen's theme other than with Login Window?
[04:46] <Stargazers> Now I try to boot my system and see if this loads Metacity right :)
[04:46] <Stargazers> ->
[04:47] <Lock-Dog> Got that? ;)
[04:47] <jspiro> ablyss: is it useful?
[04:47] <ArrenLex> lwarimav: why are you still using the wrong command? How much clearer can I possibly be?  I use it for security ( away from home modes ) and also have sprinkler relays controlled via x10 outlets. all which are ran via linux cron scripts
[04:48] <JNeverMind> is there a quick way to switch to 2.4 kernel? i have a new install of 6.06 server
[04:49] <jspiro> ablyss: cool!
[04:49] <Consty> Anyone do flash development in ubuntu?  If so what applications are available to do so?
[04:49] <ablyss> jspiro: its very simple too
[04:49] <carthik> nosoapdotorg, http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Subversion is short and sweet... to get you started
[04:50] <ablyss> jsedgwick: http://heyu.tanj.com/ << linux software for x10 serial adapter ( aka CM11A computer interface ) and of course you can buy x10 devices anywhere these days
[04:50] <Atomiku> Hey, For a few reasons I cant run the live CD from the CD drive, so I tried extracting the contents of the ubuntu ISO onto a blank HDD but when I boot up the computer I get "NTLDR is missing"
[04:51] <ArrenLex> Consty: Flash as in Macromedia Flash?
[04:51] <Atomiku> Is there any way I can boot the ubuntu CD from a HDD?
[04:51] <Consty> ArrenLex: Correct
[04:51] <ablyss> jspiro: sorry that link was for you
[04:51] <slavik> remember me?
[04:51] <ArrenLex> Consty: I strongly advise you not to create anything for Linux which uses Flash. You are aware of the current Flash situation in Linux?
[04:51] <slavik> Atomiku: no
[04:52] <Atomiku> damnit
[04:52] <Consty> ArrenLex: The sound issue?  Come now.. the beta version of 9 for linux comes out this week!
[04:52] <m0`> hi how easy is it to change our computer name from m0 to thedevil
[04:52] <Atomiku> rrraaagggeeee
[04:52] <slavik> Consty: we wait for release here
[04:52] <Celeste> is there a native english speaker?
[04:52] <fluxinator> atomiku you can boot a live cd from usb
[04:52] <Madpilot> Consty, really? I'll believe it when I download it, not before...
[04:52] <Atomiku> hmm
[04:52] <Xenguy> m0`: hostname   ?
[04:52] <SuperMiguel> how can i know if my mail server is running
[04:52] <Madpilot> Celeste, lots of them
[04:52] <Atomiku> I only have a 128mb usb stick
[04:52] <aedinius> What do you guys recommend for iTunes replacements?
[04:52] <Celeste> Madpilot, are you?
[04:52] <SuperMiguel> aedinius: you want to pay or free?
[04:52] <ArrenLex> Consty: I'll believe the beta when I see it. Not only the sound issue, the fact that the latest player we have is version 7. A lot of Linux people dislike Flash immensely for this reason and do not have it installed.
[04:52] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:53] <Madpilot> Celeste, yes
[04:53] <ablyss> hi freakabcd
[04:53] <freakabcd> how do i double the resolution?
[04:53] <cpk2> aedinius: amarok is really nice
[04:53] <aedinius> SuperMiguel: How about obht?
[04:53] <Celeste> Madpilot, may I ask you to correct me a sentence, please?
[04:53] <freakabcd> i don;t know exactly what that statement means :(
[04:53] <SuperMiguel> obht?
[04:53] <Atomiku> Even if I could put a linux distro on it... How can I install ubuntu on a hard drive without using the CDROM at all?
[04:53] <Madpilot> Celeste, sure
[04:53] <freakabcd> but maybe repeat every pixel once in each direction?
[04:53] <Shadow_mil> how do I make the gnome panel only expand part of the way across the bottom?