[08:22] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, ^^ pretty please :)
[08:22] <LocutusOfBorg> and next time you accept some lts stack updates, could you please ping me and accept vbox too? it will make my life easier
[08:23] <LocutusOfBorg> also, maybe you can make initramfs-tools migrate, since the failures aren't related to my changes (at least to my poor checks)
[08:41] <pitti> infinity: the last bit of infra landed Friday afternoon, so I'll do the main switch on Monday; but https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710 contains the other half of the transition, not sure when this lands


[10:55] <rmg51> Morning
[19:37] <lazyPower> Morning rmg51, or in this case. afternoon.
[19:39] <rmg51> o/


[00:43] <BUGabundo> $ sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[00:47] <nit-wit> why
[00:47] <nit-wit> ;)
[00:48] <nit-wit> bundo
[00:50] <BUGabundo> cause I forced and upgrade that removed most of my system
[00:50] <BUGabundo> lol
[00:50] <BUGabundo> don't even have nautilus anymore
[00:52] <arand> You gave up on btrfs? no snappy? ;)
[00:54] <BUGabundo> still on btrfs
[00:54] <BUGabundo> but will format and move to ext4
[00:54] <BUGabundo> it takes AGES to install anythign
[00:54] <BUGabundo> been playing with FreeNAS all night
[00:54] <BUGabundo> loving it
[00:55] <jtaylor> I find it quite ok with eatmydata
[00:55] <jtaylor> even though its btrfs on a VM on a slow external ^^
[01:00] <arand> I haven't even tested if the DE works lately... kvm+virsh makes you laaazy
[02:05] <BUGabundo> pillow time
[02:09] <micahg> fix for icon cache coming, third time's the charm :)
[02:26] <arand> Whoop, now I can't even use unity-2d :)
[02:27] <arand> Seems like this is the time to lay low in oo
[07:50] <susundberg> Hmm, should i change Natty, now that i have got it to work for Ocelot
[07:50] <susundberg> maybe some productive work first ..
[11:12] <sagaci> it's really breaky
[13:16] <kalon33> sure, it's really breaky : no desktop, broken gdm, but it's a devel version, and not yet alpha!
[13:35] <jo-erlend> :)
[17:02] <smoser> does anyone have a working desktop ?
[17:02] <smoser> i've switched to awesome to have *some* window manager working (sawfish didn't even work)
[17:05] <coz_>   ok have to break here,, be back a bit later
[17:36] <kalon33> smoser: no, I haven't a working desktop.... it's oneiric ^^
[17:36] <Pici> heh
[17:39] <IdleOne> my total loss of GUI was fixed this morning with more xorg updates
[17:56] <arand> Heh, aptitude got the perl upgrade right in the third try :D
[21:42] <BUGabundo> Unpacking libgtk-3-bin (from .../libgtk-3-bin_3.0.9-0ubuntu2_all.deb) ...
[21:42] <BUGabundo> dpkg-divert: error: `diversion of /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches to /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches.gtk2 by libgtk-3-bin' clashes with `diversion of /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches to /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches.gtk2 by libgtk3.0-bin'
[21:42] <BUGabundo> and now I'm forced into unity
[21:43] <BUGabundo> so I guess Classic support was removed
[21:45] <micahg> BUGabundo: libgtk3.0-bin was the old Ubuntu specific package that was dropped
[21:45] <BUGabundo> ah
[21:45] <BUGabundo> something is messing my system
[21:45] <BUGabundo> its barelly usable now
[21:46] <BUGabundo> many many depencies broken
[21:46] <BUGabundo> can't upgrade, can't downgrade
[21:46] <BUGabundo> can't even install single packages
[21:47] <BUGabundo> funny enough, compiz works better in unity then Classic
[21:50] <BUGabundo> how the heck do I open pidgin window in unity????
[21:50] <BUGabundo> I WANT CLASSIC BACK :(
[21:53] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: it's gone
[21:53] <IdleOne> gone forever, never to return.
[21:55]  * BUGabundo stabs IdleOne
[21:55] <IdleOne> why you stabbing me I didn't drop support
[22:08] <geser> BUGabundo: install "gnome-session-fallback" for the classic gnome
[22:09] <BUGabundo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:09] <BUGabundo>   gnome-icon-theme: Depends: libgtk-3-bin but it is not going to be installed.
[22:09] <BUGabundo> that package is messing my entire system
[22:09] <BUGabundo> if it isn't required I'm dpkg removing it NOW
[22:10] <geser> do you use a PPA? like the gnome3 ppa?
[22:10] <BUGabundo> no
[22:10] <BUGabundo> I do have many other PPAs
[22:10] <BUGabundo> sec
[22:11] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy libgtk-3-0
[22:11] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 3.0.9-0ubuntu2
[22:11] <BUGabundo>         500 mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages
[22:11] <BUGabundo> ~$ apt-cache policy libgtk-3-bin
[22:11] <BUGabundo>   Installed: (none)
[22:11] <BUGabundo>   Candidate: 3.0.9-0ubuntu2
[22:11] <BUGabundo> so no ppa here
[22:11] <BUGabundo> just archive for that package
[22:11] <geser> and the other one? libgtk3.0-bin
[22:12] <geser> from where does it come?
[22:12] <BUGabundo> archive too
[22:12] <BUGabundo>     3.0.9-0ubuntu2 0
[22:12] <BUGabundo>         500 mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages
[22:12] <rww> is that the geolocation URL thing?
[22:13] <BUGabundo> Unpacking libgtk-3-bin (from .../libgtk-3-bin_3.0.9-0ubuntu2_all.deb) ...
[22:13] <BUGabundo> dpkg-divert: error: `diversion of /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches to /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches.gtk2 by libgtk-3-bin' clashes with `diversion of /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches to /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches.gtk2 by libgtk3.0-bin'
[22:13] <BUGabundo> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk-3-bin_3.0.9-0ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack):
[22:13] <BUGabundo> rww: yeah
[22:13] <IdleOne> pastebin!
[22:13] <rww> I upgraded a VM to oneiric yesterday and have a bunch of breakage too, but I wanted to go sleep and didn't look into it. Probably GNOME stuff too though.
[22:13] <geser> BUGabundo: my "apt-cache search libgtk3.0" doesn't find anything
[22:14] <BUGabundo> geser: neither here
[22:15] <geser> so where does it come from?
[22:15] <BUGabundo> apt-cache rdepends libgtk3.0-0

[22:15] <BUGabundo> can't rdepend it either
[22:16] <geser> can you purge it?
[22:16] <BUGabundo> Provides: gtk3.0-binver-3.0.0
[22:16] <BUGabundo> sure
[22:16] <BUGabundo> $ sudo dpkg --remove  libgtk3.0-0 libgtk3.0-bin
[22:16] <geser> that should hopefully allow you to install the "official" one
[22:17] <BUGabundo> $ sudo dpkg --purge libgtk3.0-bin libgtk3.0-0
[22:17] <BUGabundo> purged
[22:17] <BUGabundo> geser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612960/
[22:18] <BUGabundo> its trying to take half my system
[22:18] <geser> hmm, why can't libgtk-3-bin be installed now?
[22:20] <BUGabundo> no idea
[22:20] <BUGabundo> I'm commeting all my ppas
[22:20] <BUGabundo> in case there's a conflict somewhere
[22:20] <geser> what error message do you get if you try to install libgtk-3-bin?
[22:22] <BUGabundo> geser: dpkg-divert: error: `diversion of /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches to /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches.gtk2 by libgtk-3-bin' clashes with `diversion of /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches to /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches.gtk2 by libgtk3.0-bin'
[22:22] <BUGabundo> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk-3-bin_3.0.9-0ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack):
[22:27] <BUGabundo> !info gnome-icon-theme
[22:27] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 3.0.0-1ubuntu1
[22:28] <BUGabundo> I guess my system either comes from the future
[22:28] <BUGabundo> or the bot is still on natty
[22:28] <BUGabundo> !info linux
[22:28] <BUGabundo> yeah, still on natty
[22:30] <geser> hmm, looks like libgtk3.0-bin didn't revert that dpkg-divert when you purged it
[22:32] <geser> does "dpkg-divert --listpackage /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches" still list the purged libgtk3.0-bin?
[22:32] <BUGabundo> config-package-dev isn't installed
[22:33] <BUGabundo> nor can I, cause of depencies :(
[22:33] <BUGabundo> $ dpkg-divert --listpackage /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches
[22:33] <BUGabundo> libgtk3.0-bin
[22:35] <geser> I guess you need someone who knows how to remove a dpkg-divert to get back into a sane state
[22:36] <BUGabundo> firefox-trunk: Installed: 7.0~a1~hg20110525r70149 !!!!!! 7!!!!!!!!!
[22:36] <BUGabundo> already! damn
[22:36] <geser> yes, I was surprised too that firefox trunk is already at 7
[22:52] <Ian_Corne> how's it running BUGabundo ? :)
[22:52] <BUGabundo> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[22:52] <Ian_Corne> oh, that good? :D
[22:53] <BUGabundo> worse
[22:53] <BUGabundo> VB broken
[22:53] <BUGabundo> metacity broken
[22:53] <BUGabundo> using unity SACRILIGY
[22:53] <BUGabundo> FF 7 has broken all my addons
[22:53] <BUGabundo> FF5/6 what ever is broken
[22:54] <BUGabundo> can't see any windows due to sucky unity UI
[22:54] <rww> FF7 is a video game yo
[22:54] <BUGabundo> can't even see my temp sensors or pidgin ico
[22:54] <BUGabundo> and twitter is broken too , for me
[22:56] <BUGabundo> ahh
[22:57] <BUGabundo> can't close fspot
[22:57] <BUGabundo> LOL
[22:57] <BUGabundo> at least nautilus is prettier now
[22:57] <BUGabundo> ROFL
[23:06] <micahg> BUGabundo: make sure you have gdk-pixbuf ubuntu3 and librsvg ubuntu4 or 5
[23:06] <jibel> BUGabundo, if you found a way to reproduce the dpkg-divert bug can you add a comment on bug 786170 , I haven't been able to figure how to reproduce it and it looks like a potential upgrade breaker.
[23:06] <micahg> jibel: it's due to an old package that was removed before natty final
[23:08] <jibel> micahg, yes, but even by installing this package and upgrading I can't reproduce the bug. Since it was an official package we may need to handle this specific case in update-manager
[23:09] <micahg> jibel: no, it wasn't in the natty release, libgtk3.0-bin doesn't exist in the archive ATM
[23:10] <BUGabundo> jibel: well I can't reproduce, but I can confirm it
[23:11] <micahg> jibel: it would probably require upgrading from natty alpha 3 or beta 1 straight to oneiric w/out updating first
[23:11] <BUGabundo> micahg: no gdk-pixbuf here
[23:11] <micahg> I don't think that's supported in any event
[23:11] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy librsvg2-* | pastebinit
[23:11] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/612972/
[23:12] <micahg> BUGabundo: you don't have libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0?
[23:12] <micahg> the other one looks fine
[23:13] <BUGabundo> libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:  Installed: 2.23.3-0ubuntu3
[23:14] <micahg> BUGabundo: weird, that should be sufficient
[23:14] <jibel> micahg, hm, okay. that's invalid then. we can keep the bug opened and close it after a2 or a3 if there's not much dups.
[23:14] <micahg> BUGabundo: did you run dpkg --configure -a after removing the libgtk3.0-bin package?
[23:15] <BUGabundo> a few times
[23:15] <BUGabundo> it won't complete
[23:15] <micahg> BUGabundo: what's the error it hits?
[23:16] <BUGabundo> micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612977/
[23:17] <micahg> BUGabundo: k, run apt-get upgrade again and you should be good I think
[23:17] <BUGabundo> LOL
[23:17] <BUGabundo> I've run it 12 times already
[23:17] <micahg> what error does that give? (maybe dist-upgrade needed)
[23:18] <BUGabundo>
[23:18] <BUGabundo> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[23:18] <BUGabundo>   libgtk-3-bin{a}
[23:18] <BUGabundo> LOL
[23:21] <nit-wit> you all know the daily builds are out now.;)
[23:22] <micahg> BUGabundo: yep, you'll need that to replace the other one :)
[23:22] <BUGabundo> which one?
[23:22] <BUGabundo> its the system poling it
[23:23] <micahg> libgtk-3-bin to replace libgtk3.0-bin
[23:25] <BUGabundo> No candidate version found for libgtk3.0-bin


[04:52] <gggs_> hey, most of -au is here, head_victim, gorilla, & I are on roddenberry.freenode.net by ourselves :)
[08:48] <head_v> hmmm the local roddenberry has gone awol
[08:57] <gggs> head_: ?
[08:57] <head_> gggs: ? :D
[08:58] <gggs> it's still there, it's just... antisocial!
[08:58] <head_> Heh well I'm on both sides of the netsplit wall now. Watch out
[08:59]  * head_ waves at DarrenS
[09:00] <DarrenS> head_ \o
[09:02] <head_> I've been playing with Thunderbird. Not bad as far as desktop clients go. I'll probably use it if I ever need to sign emails and it's a handy offline backup of the web. I just can't seem to live without the snippet component and can't find a way to get Thunderbird to show them.
[14:46] <sagaci> anyone up - remoting UDS?
[15:16] <ikt> nah :(
[15:16] <ikt> you watching sagaci ?
[15:16] <sagaci> was before
[15:17] <ikt> just about to have a go installing arch
[15:17] <ikt> bbl :)


[01:27] <sgclark> latest ci konversation seems very broken, lets see if quassel can stay connected...
[05:45] <ScottK> So is the plasma netbook interface gone entirely?
[05:55] <ScottK> Clearly the default plasma 5 is not meant for smaller screens.
[06:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:19] <soee> good morning
[08:27] <sitter>   libkf5networkmanagerqt6
[08:27] <sitter> that name got weird quickly
[08:30] <valorie> it's like german
[08:30] <valorie> smoosh a sentence into a word
[08:33] <sitter> I was refering to the six :P
[08:35] <valorie> how did we skip over 5?
[08:36] <sitter> we had 5
[08:36] <sitter> the way our package names work are $libraryName$libraryVersion
[08:36] <valorie> no dots at the end, then?
[08:36] <valorie> like 5.2, 5.3
[08:37] <sitter> valorie: libraries are either backwards compatible or they are not
[08:37] <sitter> so I suppose it's actually $libraryName$libraryMajorVersion
[08:38] <sitter> eitherway, since upstream had to bump the version because they wanted to do a not-compatible change they had to bump to 6.whatever and now we have the first qt6 library ^^
[08:43] <valorie> crazy, man
[10:06] <Riddell> ScottK: yes netbook is gone for now, should anyone choose to remake it plasma5 does have much nicer ways to switch between workspaces on the fly, but nobody is working on netbook currently
[11:33] <Riddell> interesting question du jour https://paste.kde.org/pbr1huncf
[11:35] <sitter> wtf, for some reason utopic doesn't automoc everything Oo
[11:37] <Riddell> cmake should do that no?
[11:39] <soee> Riddell: sadly thers no CP15 for linux right ?
[11:44] <Riddell> soee: no corel, back in the day corel did want to go big on linux with its own distribution et al but failed horribly
[11:44] <Riddell> so it's a question of whethehr wine will run it
[11:45] <soee> wine :/ so when new CP will show up and wind does not support it right they will complain @kubuntu :)
[11:49] <sitter> Riddell: yeah, see #plasma
[11:50] <soee> so atm from Corel there is only Corel AfterShot available for linux ?
[11:52] <Riddell> dunno
[12:22] <sgclark> morning
[12:26] <Riddell> sgclark!
[12:26] <Riddell> ¿que tal?
[12:27] <sgclark> not much yet :)
[12:38] <Riddell> hi bukai
[12:39] <bukai> Riddell: hi
[12:39] <Riddell> ¿que pasa?
[12:40] <bukai> :) nothing much . My exams just ended today so will start with the blog for kubuntu
[12:41] <Riddell> great
[12:41] <Riddell> bukai: how did they exams go?
[12:42] <bukai> Riddell: It went well
[12:43] <bukai> Riddell: Did that googleplus issue get sorted out?
[12:43] <bukai> do you have access now?
[12:44] <Riddell> bukai: oh interestingly I'm now the owner
[12:44] <Riddell> I wonder how that happened
[12:44] <Riddell> don't think I got a message about it
[12:45] <Riddell> oh yes I did oh google plus, which is weird but ok
[12:45] <bukai> Riddell: wow! thats great!
[12:45] <Riddell> promoting everyone to manager
[12:46] <Riddell> bukai: what's your google plus name?
[12:46] <bukai> Subhajit Mukherjee
[12:46] <Riddell> hmm there's 5 Subhajit Mukherjees
[12:47] <Riddell> bukai: "Attends Holy Trinity School" you?
[12:47] <Riddell> "Lives in Uttarpara/Hooghly/West Bengal"?
[12:49] <bukai> wait I am sending you the link as it seems i am very unpopular :(
[12:49] <Riddell> oh dear analitza also needs to update its soversion
[12:52] <shadeslayer> Hooghly, heh, /me remembers his time in Kolkata
[12:52] <shadeslayer> didn't even have McDonalds when I was there
[12:52] <sgclark> latestest konversation is all busted up btw
[12:52] <sgclark> with bnc and encryption anyway
[12:53] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is that your measure of social development? :)
[12:53] <Riddell> sgclark: maybe it doesn't use qca, sitter will know
[12:53] <sgclark> ok, had to switch to quassel
[12:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hehe, as a 12 year kid, yes it was
[12:54] <sgclark> but yeah that was the error not compiled with qca
[12:54] <bukai> shadeslayer: when were you here last? btw there are plenty of McDonalds now :)
[12:54] <shadeslayer> bukai: a good 10 years back IIRC
[12:54] <sgclark> lol long live mcdonalds
[12:55] <shadeslayer> bukai: lived near the Airport for 3 years, attended school in Salt Lake
[12:55] <sitter> it doesn't use QCA
[12:56] <sitter> in fact I'd totally advocate no one using QCA :@
[12:56] <shadeslayer> bukai: and IIRC, they opened the first McDonalds 2 days before I left
[12:56] <sgclark> well it is broken non the less
[12:58] <bukai_> Riddell: I have pinged you in G+
[13:01] <Riddell> bukai_: don't see it
[13:01] <Riddell> ok found it
[13:01] <Riddell> had to be viewing  page as me and press f5
[13:01] <Riddell> how weird
[13:02] <Riddell> bukai_: invited you to be manager
[13:05] <bukai_> Riddell: I did not get the invite
[13:11] <Riddell> bukai_: press f5?
[13:12] <bukai_> Riddell: yes i did
[13:12] <bukai_> but still no invite
[13:13] <Riddell> bukai_: this is you? https://plus.google.com/+SubhajitMukherjeeawesome/posts
[13:19] <bukai> Riddell: I got the mail but there was no notification on G+
[13:20] <Riddell> g+ is weird
[13:31] <bukai__> sgclark: ping
[13:31] <sgclark> bukai__: pong
[13:32] <bukai__> sgclark: where can I get the app id made in G+?
[13:32] <sgclark> bukai__: I thought I sent it to you
[13:33] <bukai__> It expired!
[13:33] <sgclark> bukai__: I made it under my personal account. doh
[13:33] <bukai__> so It's not working anymore
[13:33] <sgclark> bukai__: ok give me a min
[13:39] <bukai__> sgclark: ok.
[13:39] <Riddell> sitter: shiny new analitza package up for qt5 ci loving
[13:39] <sitter> oh my
[13:44] <sgclark> bukai__: sent
[13:45] <sitter> 13:46:05 dpkg-source: error: LC_ALL=C patch -t -F 0 -N -p1 -u -V never -g0 -E -b -B .pc/upstream_bump-soversion.diff/ --reject-file=- < source.orig.z7uKZN/debian/patches/upstream_bump-soversion.diff gave error exit status 1
[13:45] <sitter> Riddell: that patch name already sounds like it will make me angry
[13:45] <bukai__> sgclark: thanks :)
[13:46] <sitter> Riddell: so it was only bumped after beta?
[13:47] <Riddell> sitter: an hour ago
[13:47] <sitter> madness
[13:48] <Riddell> sitter: how so?
[13:49] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[13:49] <sitter> lack of release prep
[13:49] <_Groo_> Riddell: without being pushy, any possibility of fixing konsole today?
[13:50] <Riddell> mm yes I should look at that
[13:50] <_Groo_> Riddell: tks :)
[13:50] <_Groo_> i miss yakuake
[13:50] <Riddell> sitter: good thing us packagers are around to keep upstream sorted
[13:50] <sitter> yes, but still
[13:51] <sitter> scary all the same
[13:51] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:58]  * bukai__ leaves for 10 mins.
[14:17] <bukai__> Riddell: can you resend me the rss feed for wire.kubuntu
[14:18] <Riddell> bukai__: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?feed=rss2
[14:19] <bukai__> thanks
[14:21] <kbroulik> what package is kf5 framework-integration in?
[14:21] <kbroulik> i dont find it in libkf5*
[14:22] <sitter> oh yeah, I meant to align the naming
[14:22] <sitter> brrr
[14:22] <sitter> kbroulik: frameworkintegration
[14:22] <kbroulik> and dev packages for it?
[14:23] <sitter> no such thing :P
[14:23] <sitter> kbroulik: libkf5style-dev maybe?
[14:23] <kbroulik> compiled it manually :)
[14:23] <sitter> brrr
[14:24] <kbroulik> though it failed to build when it didnt find qt base private stuff for qpa, without cmake complaining
[14:24] <sitter> yeah, that needs some changes
[14:24] <sitter> the cmake config is called frameworkintegration but it really is for kstyle :S
[14:28] <bukai__> Riddell: Finally I created a nice looking widget for G+ please check if this is better than the one we have ->https://paste.kde.org/pak08fktn
[14:29] <Riddell> http://widgetsplus.com:8080/57912.htm ?
[14:29] <Riddell> bukai__: looking lovely
[14:33] <sitter> is that supposed to be black?
[14:33] <sitter> text to background contrast is very meh here :/
[14:34] <sgclark> yeah hard to read for me, but I am blind so...
[14:34] <soee> :D
[14:36] <bukai> Actually the background on which the widget will be is white hence I made it black
[14:36] <sgclark> ok cool, then +1 from me
[15:47] <Riddell> "kate | katepart is manifested madness - needs debian coordination" who wrote that yofel, sitter, sgclark?
[15:47] <Riddell> what's madness about it?
[15:47] <sgclark> yofel
[15:54] <sitter> kate | katepart is #wrong
[16:37] <soee_> woho "This means the upcoming 5.2 release will ship with the new Breeze window decoration by default." :D
[16:37] <Riddell> hmm, where has kate part gone in kf5 land?
[16:37] <Riddell> that's kdecoration2 in
[16:37] <Riddell> I still think it looks a lot like the unity theme
[16:38] <soee_> why
[16:55] <_Groo_> riddell:
[16:55] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NWTAV7Z6
[16:55] <_Groo_> konsole-kpart is still broken :P
[16:56] <Riddell> _Groo_: in what way?
[16:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: did you see the pastebin?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> kparted is still broken, period
[16:57] <_Groo_> no, the packaeis trting to overwrite a lib thats also in konsole5
[16:57] <_Groo_> also, yakuake still cant find the component
[17:00] <_Groo_> ok, i had to dpkg --purge konsole konsole5 konsole-kpart
[17:00] <_Groo_> then reinstalled konsole5 and allowed it to download konsole from universe (4.14.x)
[17:00] <_Groo_> now it works
[17:00] <_Groo_> strange strange worls
[17:00] <_Groo_> world
[17:01] <_Groo_> i can confirm yakuake is working just fine now
[17:03] <BluesKaj> still have problem with copy&paste ..gotta leave the source file open until the text is pasted in the target, this must be a klipper problem
[17:04] <BluesKaj> or clipboard rather
[17:18] <sgclark> saame, very annoying
[17:22] <Riddell> _Groo_: mm that'll be some old packaging of sitter's, I'll just add a conflict
[17:26] <Riddell> is there any reason to keep the old katepart around?
[17:26] <Riddell> I don't see any rdepends
[17:26] <Riddell> sgclark, yofel, sitter? ↑
[17:27] <Riddell> but e.g. kdevelop must be using something from it
[17:27] <sgclark> possibly
[17:27] <sgclark> wonder if they got that release out
[17:27] <Riddell> well it depends on kate-data
[17:32] <Riddell> apt remove katepart is scary
[17:32] <Riddell> why does that want to remove everything but it doesn't rdepend on it
[17:33] <sgclark> that sounds bad
[17:33] <sgclark> don't do it!
[17:36] <Riddell> ah kde-runtime depends on kdelibs5-plugins which depends on katepart
[17:36] <Riddell> well well
[17:36] <Riddell> guess I should keep katepart alive and make a new kate4 source package
[17:41] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_14.11.97_vivid.html looking good now
[17:48] <Riddell> sitter: where to store kate4 source?
[17:48] <Riddell> sitter: where is konsole4 source stored?
[17:48] <Riddell> sitter: oh you've gone for your tea
[17:49] <Riddell> CC meeting in #ubuntu-meeting
[18:03] <genii> It's good that Mark is around for this one
[18:03] <Riddell> I have no idea what it's about
[18:03] <Riddell> but I point out one obvious problem and get shot down, doesn't make me want to take a leadership role in anything
[18:05] <genii> I came in late for this one, will need to check the log of it afterwards.
[18:21] <Riddell> sitter: kate kf5 packaging pushed
[18:52] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[18:54] <bukai> sgclark: ping
[18:54] <sgclark> bukai: pong
[18:55] <bukai> sgclark: I was thinking of putting the names of the kubuntu developers as a footer in the official site. Will it be a good idea to do so?
[18:57] <Riddell> hi bukai
[18:57] <Riddell> bukai: trouble with that is deciding who gets named and who doesn't
[18:57] <Riddell> and keeping it up to date
[18:59] <bukai> Riddell: hmm, around 20 names could be fitted nicely
[19:01] <bukai> Riddell: It would be helpful if someone wants to work on an application he would know who is the main developer and contact that person accordingly.
[19:02] <Riddell> they should contact the team rather than an individual
[19:20] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_14.11.97_vivid.html looking better today, should be good for a final check over and upload tomorrow
[19:20]  * Riddell out
[21:12] <yofel> Riddell: kdevelop and kile will want katepart4 for proper text editing
[21:14] <yofel> Riddell: also, lisandro and Odyx were against renaming kate4, so debian most likely won't do that and instead rename the kate5 soure
[22:06] <soee> ping
[23:52] <sitter> Riddell: ad _Groo_'s konsole problems, that shouldn't have a relationship as it was transitional buggery only affecting unstable not unstable-daily
[23:52] <sitter> suppose if version permits it can be added all the same though
[23:53] <sitter> Riddell: about kate4 and konsole4 I dunno, ask debian? technically kde-sc/kate kde-sc/konsole branches since they are still the tarballs from that release set
[23:54] <sitter> Riddell: good stuff on kate, I see kalgebra is still broken and konsole is broken again though :P


[09:35] <doko> smb: you merged iproute2 last. Please could you have a look at the failing autopkg tests? or maybe merge it again before ff ?
[09:35] <smb> doko, ack, will have a look
[10:03] <smb> doko, hm, would /bin/sh change of argument list size ring any bells? That seems to be the cause. I am not sure another merge will help, though I want to do it regardless to sync with kernel versions
[10:13] <doko> smb: aren't these practically unlimited these days?
[10:14] <smb> doko, I would have thought so... but "make: execvp: /bin/sh: Argument list too long" sounds differently
[10:19] <smb> anyhow, will dig a bit more after lunch
[12:14] <jbicha> doko: pygobject builds (except on s390x) once we sync glib2.0 from experimental, but I was told to be more cautious about syncing until the big qt/ffmpeg transition finishes
[12:14] <jbicha> doko: see bug 1787474
[12:21] <doko> jbicha: cautiousness seems to be a good advice =)
[12:24] <jbicha> I'm not working on the s390x issue. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pygobject/issues/247 upstream wishes we had a pytest-faulthandler package
[13:27] <ahasenack> doko: hi, good morning/afternoon. ldb is a sync, and stuck in proposed because it needs talloc >= 2.1.13, are you about to merge that by any chance?
[13:27] <ahasenack> debian has 2.1.14
[13:52] <abeato> sil2100, https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/ubuntu-image/pull/158 is ready for review - there are some CI error but those do not look related to the PR
[17:32] <wxl> i just notice the live cd for lubuntu (and kubuntu, haven't tested others) has an empty menuentry in grub for "boot to first hard disk." what do i change to fix this?
[17:33] <ahasenack> hi, can someone please sync ldb from debian? It fixes the FTBFS for arm, ppc and s390x
[17:33] <ahasenack> ldb (2:1.4.0+really1.3.5-2) unstable; urgency=high
[17:33] <ahasenack>   * Add patch from upstream to fix FTBFS on some arches (arm64, armhf, mips,
[17:33] <ahasenack>     mipsel, s390x, ...)
[17:33] <ahasenack> ours: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ldb/2:1.4.0+really1.3.5-1 (see the build failures)
[17:37] <ahasenack> https://salsa.debian.org/samba-team/ldb/commit/81ac821d1ba0c7b39c53b5e7174155a559063e0d patch debian used
[17:40] <mdeslaur> ahasenack: sure, one sec
[17:40] <ahasenack> mdeslaur: thx!
[17:40] <mdeslaur> ahasenack: synced
[17:40] <ahasenack> \o/
[17:44] <ahasenack> mdeslaur: \o/ it build successfully on s390 and ppc already: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ldb/2:1.4.0+really1.3.5-2
[17:44] <ahasenack> built*
[17:44] <mdeslaur> sweet :)
[17:45] <ahasenack> that was fast
[18:42] <wxl> ^^ regarding the issue booting to first disk on the live cd, it affects ubuntu as well. as far as supported releases go, it seems that has been this way since xenial
[18:42] <wxl> trusty works. it's possible utopic, vivid, wily didn't.
[19:25] <Odd_Bloke> GNOME have moved some of their bug tracking from Bugzilla to Gitlab, do we have a way of linking to such upstream bug reports from Launchpad?
[19:35] <jbicha> Odd_Bloke: not yet, see bug 1738870
[19:39] <aleb> Hi, I see this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/1748787 "pitivi crashed with AttributeError in ..." but I don't see any C backtrace, only a Python traceback in the bug description. The traceback cannot cause a crash/segfault, so I'm wondering why the bug title says "crash", any clue?
[21:31] <ahasenack> hi, can someone please accept the xenial task of this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/1771340
[21:32] <sarnold> looks like osmeone beat me to it :)
[21:32] <ahasenack> thanks anyway :)
[21:34] <Unit193> Hm, that reminds me of the whole openssl 1.1 / openssh thing...
[23:23] <mwhudson> how much ram do the ppc64el autopkgtest workers have?


[23:31] <Daskreech> sam___: what would you like updated other than the programs?
[23:32] <Snowhog> sam___: That's what it does - checks for updates to the packages you already have installed.
[23:32] <Starn> Daskreech Nope without -a it don't show the eth0 and with -a I see no ip.
[23:32] <sam___> snow thanks it is my firet time to be here I moved from ubuntu to here
[23:33] <Daskreech> Starn: bah :-) sorry
[23:33] <Daskreech> Starn: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[23:33] <Snowhog> sam___: NP. Welcome to Kubuntu. :)
[23:33] <Daskreech> sam___: Welcome to KDE :)
[23:33] <sam___> thanks Daskreech
[23:33] <Daskreech> Starn: that should turn on your card
[23:34] <Starn> Daskreech ok it's listed in ipconfig no -a but no ip.
[23:34] <Daskreech> Starn: now try sudo dhclient
[23:35] <Starn> Just did. Nothing so fat daskreech
[23:35] <Daskreech> Starn: no output at all?
[23:36] <Starn> Inet6 addr: fe80: :21a:a0ff and many more strings like that
[23:37] <Daskreech> for suo dhclient ?
[23:37] <Daskreech> sudo
[23:38] <Starn> Scope:link up broadcast running multicast.. and nothing shows when I type sudo dhclient.  All that info is in ifconfig
[23:38] <Daskreech> right ifconfig I'd expect that
[23:38] <Daskreech> Ok Snowhog take over :)
[23:38]  * Daskreech goes for a drink and to work
[23:38] <Snowhog> Daskreech: hehe
[23:39] <Starn> I do know at the very end of ifconfig for the eth0 says interrupt:19
[23:40] <Starn> Wish I could copy and past this stuff to you guys but sadly I am on my phone.
[23:41] <Daskreech> It's fine I understand the pain of not having a network connection
[23:41] <Daskreech> Starn: want to try Snowhog's reboot
[23:41] <Daskreech> ?
[23:41] <Starn> Windows works fine. And yea rebooting now.
[23:41] <Snowhog> Starn: Earlier you said it just stopped working. When it was working, were you still on the same version of Kubuntu? Did you do a version upgrade?
[23:43] <Starn> I was on ubuntu 11.10 than I switched to kubuntu after trying xububtu and it was working just fine even after reboots. Until my very last reboot.
[23:43] <Starn> Xubuntu*
[23:44] <Snowhog> Starn: "until my very last reboot." Before that last reboot, were there any package updates? Any new kernels installed?
[23:44] <Starn> Nope not that I am aware of. I was just going to windows to play some games.
[23:45] <Snowhog> Starn: Are you true multi-booting, or is Linux installed "inside" of Windows - Wubi install?
[23:45] <Starn> True multi boot. Wubi was way to slow.
[23:46] <Starn> I have 160gb dedicated to linux.
[23:46] <Snowhog> Starn: Okay. Do you have your Grub menu configured so you see it? Do you have more than one kernel version to choose from?
[23:47] <Starn> Yes I have grub where I can see and if I click older versions.  And they're version 2 something while this one is version 3 something
[23:47] <Starn> Btw snowhog reboot didn't fix.
[23:47] <phiscibe> i just discoverd pastebinit, how cool is that
[23:47] <Snowhog> Okay, I would opt to boot into the prior kernel and see how things fair.
[23:47] <Starn> Alright I shall
[23:48] <Daskreech> phiscibe: isn't it?
[23:48] <phiscibe> its like gravy on your gravy
[23:49] <Starn> Oh they're 2.6.38-11 is that old?
[23:49] <Daskreech> Not in the greater scheme of things
[23:50] <Daskreech> by FOSS terms it's pretty old but came out this year :)
[23:50] <phiscibe> DarkriftX: u any good at interpeting what goes on at what run level, cant figure out whyu i have some system processes starting twice
[23:50] <Starn> Yay!!!!! Internet!!!
[23:50] <Daskreech> Starn: ^_^
[23:51] <Starn> So just use the old kernel?
[23:51] <phiscibe> DarkriftX:  nm gonna reboot
[23:51] <Snowhog> Starn: Yes.
[23:51] <Daskreech> Starn: Sounds like a good idea for now
[23:52] <Starn> No way to fix the new kernel?? And what if there is an update will that break my system? Haha
[23:52] <Snowhog> Starn: Okay, good. That means that what you have in your PC network wise, is natively usable by the kernel -at least the previous one. Check and see if you have the package dkms installed. If you don't, install it.
[23:53] <starn_> ok i shall this is my desktop now. snowhog.
[23:53] <Daskreech> starn_: update may be more likely to fix it
[23:53] <starn_> uhh how do i check to see if i have dkms package? heh.
[23:54] <Snowhog> Starn: Open a terminal and just type: sudo apt-get install dkms
[23:54] <starn_> oh duh.. now i feel stupid.
[23:55] <starn_> dkms is already the newest version. thats what it said snowhog.
[23:55] <Snowhog> starn_: While you are at it, check Additional Drivers now - my guess is you will see on, and it is active.
[23:56] <starn_> i know it has my nvidia drivers listed.. haha  oh infact that is all it lists.. is my nvidia accelerated graphics driver.. snowhog..
[23:57] <Snowhog> starn_: That means that the kernel natively supports your network interface. And, therefore, the newer kernel should as well. I would now do a normal  shutdown/restart and boot into the newest kernel and see how things work.
[23:58] <starn_> ok.. leme get back on here with my phone.. oddly enough it does not use much battery..


[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[22:12] <rickspencer3> pleia2, some I'm writing up this article for the fridge about new dash
[22:12] <rickspencer3> how much detail is appropriate?
[22:12] <rickspencer3> I am finding myself describing the different kinds of scopes and the interaction with the server
[22:12] <rickspencer3> is that too much?
[22:12] <pleia2> rickspencer3: I'd go user-focused for this post
[22:12] <rickspencer3> ok
[22:13] <rickspencer3> I'll focused on what the user will see, then
[22:13] <pleia2> is there a wiki page that describes some of the server interaction stuff?
[22:13]  * rickspencer3 deletes wall of text
[22:13] <pleia2> hah
[22:13] <pleia2> I think it's valuable, but perhaps more as a link to rather than in the text itself, so people don't get bored and stop reading if they're just users
[22:13] <rickspencer3> pleia2, yes, there is a rather detailed blueprint, and there is a hangout somewhere where the dev team discusses the system
[22:13] <rickspencer3> pleia2, ok
[22:14] <pleia2> ok great, maybe linking to both of those "for more of the technical details see the blueprint and hangout"
[22:14] <rickspencer3> also, I am trying to avoid "marketing" the system
[22:14] <rickspencer3> which, you can imagine, is hard for me ;)
[22:14] <pleia2> hehe
[22:14] <rickspencer3> totally biased reporter


[19:56] <kenyon> where would a bug report go for this issue?: the TLS certificate of https://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ does not contain a SAN for ddebs.ubuntu.com. I see also a mention of this in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddeb-retriever/+bug/1976233/comments/3 ddebs reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[20:34] <kenyon> also, this is arguably a bug in apt-mirror, but apt-mirror only works with compressed index files due to https://github.com/apt-mirror/apt-mirror/commit/76bd728ec6e799073183622ea13c3ca9b4f65e82 so doesn't work with ddebs.ubuntu.com's uncompressed index files
[20:35] <mcarvalhor> Hey! Please report to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:49] <mcarvalhor> @kenyon You can report the issue with apt-mirror here by creating a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddeb-retriever
[20:50] <kenyon> mcarvalhor: thanks, I'm working on fixing it in apt-mirror though, since ddebs.ubuntu.com is not the only place this problem occurs. https://github.com/apt-mirror/apt-mirror/issues/187
[20:51] <kenyon> emailing about the cert issue now
[20:53] <mcarvalhor> Also, I've just verified that ddebs.ubuntu.com is actually a HTTP-only service: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[20:54] <mcarvalhor> The issue you see when trying to access HTTPS endpoint is because it's behind a content cache, but that port is not configured for ddebs.ubuntu.com.
[20:57] <kenyon> yeah, it's just an annoyance since web browsers default to HTTPS-only these days, so you have to manually make an exception to browse it
[20:57] <kenyon> but yeah for use by apt I understand it's plaintext only
[21:37] <hloeung> I think we need to loop in ubuntu-devel, who, IIRC, are the ddebs.u.c service owners
[21:37] <hloeung> ultimately, I think it's their call if we should offer ddebs over HTTPS or not


[00:32] <bluesabre> I think we should add our Xubuntu preset to the Terminal presets
[00:32] <bluesabre> :)
[01:52] <bluesabre> mr_pouit: finally got around to it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1212905
[01:52] <bluesabre> let me know what I messed up ;)
[02:37] <micahg> bluesabre: in a merge, you want to list the stuff that remains a delta and deltas that were dropped
[15:42] <GridCube> howdy
[17:44] <elfy> knome: I'm going to work on a wiki list of bugs we see during installs as per a conversation with michag - you got any preference to a name for it?
[18:16] <Unit193> There used to be one several cycles back.
[19:21] <mikodo> Hi guys. I burned the Xubuntu 13.10 XMir-AMD 64 Bit .iso to DVD. Does anyone have any *quick links*, telling me what to do for testing it. Like, * what do you want me to do and report*.  I registered with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to send the results and specs of my compurter.
[19:28] <Unit193> You generally use it a little and see how it "feels", another test would be to run glxgears and compare it to the open source drivers in Xorg.
[19:28] <Unit193> http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-mir is the results pad.
[19:29] <mikodo> Unit193,  I I'll stick it on a spare partition.
[19:29] <mikodo> Unit193, Thanks.
[19:30] <Unit193> Alrighty, sure.
[19:32] <mikodo> Unit193, I can never get into http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-mir something about OpenID Authentication Required so I thought I would report on the mailing list
[19:33] <Unit193> Yeah, it wants you to login using launchpad.
[19:34] <mikodo> Unit193, I have that, but I see nowhere on the page to login
[19:35] <mikodo> Just a blank page with OpenID Authentication Required
[19:35] <Unit193> Hah, that's niiice. :P
[19:36] <mikodo> Unit193, Do you get that too?
[19:36] <Unit193> mikodo: No, it redirects to login.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <mikodo> Unit193, I wonder if it is a cookie thing?
[19:37] <mikodo> Unit193, Anyways, I am screwed for that
[19:38] <Unit193> Another option would be to try another browser, but Firefox v25 and xombrero work for me.  No big deal really.
[19:38] <mikodo> Unit193, Thanks. I will play around See ya!
[19:38] <Unit193> Adios, have a goo test.
[19:38] <Unit193> +d
[19:38] <mikodo> lol
[19:38] <pleia2> goo tests
[19:39] <mikodo> Sounds like my wife
[19:40] <pleia2> I have a maid come in for that
[19:41] <Unit193> Testing world of goo? :P
[19:42] <pleia2> all goo handling
[19:43] <mikodo> Unit193, Yep I allowed all cookies for FF 23 and it is allowing me to login to http://pad.ubuntu.com/
[20:00] <mikodo> I am soooo tired of the problems with SSO. I can log into Ubuntu One, Launchpad and Ubuntu Forums. But *now* I cannot login in to http://pad.ubuntu.com/openid/+login  EVEN with FF cookies allowed.  Sorry to waste your time.
[20:00] <pleia2> mikodo: are you part of the etherpad team?
[20:01] <mikodo> NO
[20:01] <pleia2> mikodo: what's your lp id?
[20:01] <mikodo> Sorry for caps
[20:02] <mikodo> Do you mean my email address to lP
[20:02] <pleia2> no, the part in the url after the ~
[20:02] <pleia2> https://launchpad.net/~lyz
[20:02] <pleia2> mine is "lyz"
[20:02] <mikodo> Alright, please give me a minute to see what that might be
[20:03] <pleia2> anyway, this problem has nothing to do with SSO, the etherpad just gets attacked+spammed so you need to be part of the etherpad team to use it, I can add people, you just need to ask :)
[20:10] <mikodo> pleia2, Sorry, to take so long to find what you were asking for! It is drum-roll please **  ~mike-odonnell-r  ** Not very frigin original is it?
[20:10] <pleia2> mikodo: done
[20:11] <mikodo> pleia2, Thanks pal!
[20:11] <elfy> http://imagebin.org/267841
[20:11] <elfy> logging into this machine after I'd logged into the mir instance
[20:13] <Unit193> elfy: Nice background.
[20:14] <elfy> yea - lovely :p
[20:15] <pleia2> lol
[20:15] <pleia2> that's teh broken
[20:15] <elfy> a bit ...
[20:16] <elfy> at least it didn't have any passwords in it :p
[20:18] <elfy> Unit193: you seeing the same with seeding with me 2:1 32:64bit
[20:19] <Unit193> 14 all, 11G for both.
[20:19] <elfy> mind you I've been offline
[20:19] <elfy> 7Gb in total
[20:19] <Unit193> Sure, it's still not a lot, things be dieing down.
[20:20] <elfy> for these at least - 106Gb all told
[20:20] <elfy> so yea - much quieter now
[20:21] <Unit193> 108.50 GiB httpd traffic since Sunday.
[20:23] <cub> Unit193, yeah since Jono's blog post yesterday people might do the install procedure there on an existing Saucy. I ran a test on Ubuntu Studio today so...
[20:24] <Unit193> cub: Sure, any different?
[20:24] <cub> Yes, the login screen was flashing and it traced my cursor movement with a nice blue colour. But once logged in everything worked just as with the Xubuntu 0.0.9 version
[20:25] <cub> I didn't update that on the Etherpad since it was not the Xubuntu iso, but on the wiki page instead
[20:26] <elfy> I've had the same flashing greeter screen with the saucy+mir bits
[21:40] <mikodo> Well I installed XMir 13.10, installed grub to my primary install, and sudo update-grub finds 13.10 on the partition I installed it to, but on the boot-menu, it isn't listed. hmm... So, I can't boot into it.
[21:43] <mikodo> I am going to try booting into the other installs, to see if they all work. Bye.
[21:51] <mikodo> Alright, I found Xubuntu XMir 13.10 at Linux 3.11.0-1-generic x86_64 in the grup menu, which surprised me to find it there. So I have it running.
[21:52] <mikodo> *grub-menu
[21:55] <knome> forestpiskie, would that list be similar to what is in the iso tracker?
[21:55] <knome> forestpiskie, i don't want to duplicate any work, and it sounds like we have already gathered the bugs...
[21:59] <mikodo> How do I compare  glxgears XMir to Xorg?
[21:59] <knome> i'd say simply compare the FPS
[22:00] <mikodo> knome, Thanks. I don't know what that is
[22:02] <mikodo> FPS to google we go
[22:02] <knome> mikodo, run glxgears from terminal and it'll output you the frames per second rates
[22:02] <knome> the bigger the number, the better
[22:02] <knome> that's a very simple way to compare graphics performance
[22:02] <mikodo> knome, I can do that. Thanks.
[22:02] <knome> cheers
[22:03] <knome> mikodo, do you have access to the pad where we're collection information?
[22:03] <knome> mikodo, or, are you in the ubuntu-etherpad LP group
[22:03] <mikodo> knome, Unit193 gave me access Thanks
[22:03] <knome> okay, goodie
[22:18] <Unit193> (Strictly speaking, ple added him to the group. :P )
[22:23] <mikodo> oops, sorry, that is right.
[22:23] <knome> well i knew it couldn't be Unit193!
[22:24] <knome> but i don't mind. i don't have the permissions myself to add people either, but i'm good at poking other people and making them do it.
[22:25] <mikodo> knome, obviously, I didn't. say anyone having trouble with their sudo passowords, mine works sometimes, other times, just won't
[22:26] <knome> yeah, i've had those too, but the PEBKAC
[22:27] <mikodo> knome, Good misery likes company
[22:27] <knome> i once had a streak of like 7 times when i failed
[22:28] <mikodo> I am doing all the downloads now, fingers crossed!
[22:28] <knome> good luck
[22:29] <mikodo> *updates
[22:29] <Unit193> knome: Make it fun, enable insults.
[23:31] <mikodo> Alright, guys. I have my computer specs &  glxgears (twice posted, damn) up on http://pad.ubuntu.com/      Is there any other commands I can run to post, that would be of service to the devs?
[23:32] <Unit193> knome: ^?
[23:33] <mikodo> Oh, and would a reboot help with not being able to use my sudo password?
[23:33] <knome> mikodo, if you have time, check out packages.qa.ubuntu.com and see the xubuntu testcases :)
[23:34] <mikodo> knome, Thx.
[23:34] <knome> no problem - than *you*
[23:34] <bluesabre> micahg: largely the merge was, replace everything with debian version except for the debian folder
[23:37] <mikodo> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/ starts tomorrow right?
[23:38] <knome> mikodo, it's an always ongoing effort
[23:38] <mikodo> Oh, I see that thanks
[23:40] <Unit193> Hah, by the standards of http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/298/builds/51476/testcases/1572/results nope to all. ;P
[23:41] <knome> :P
[23:41] <Elendorial> Hello
[23:42] <Unit193> Howdy.
[23:42] <Unit193> (By "all", I mean all my tests.)


[18:30] <xnox> apw, do we still need kmod, if we have systemd-modules-load thing?
[18:31]  * xnox wonders if the systemd-modules-load actually masks kmod already
[18:32] <xnox> ah it does, via systemd. It ships kmod.service -> systemd-modules-load.service symlink
[19:41] <tyhicks> if I'm doing artful backports of some patches that were recently acked upstream to land in 4.14, what git tree/branch should I be targeting? the master branch of the unstable tree?
[20:09] <sforshee> tyhicks: that or artful/master-next, whichever is more convienient for you
[20:10] <sforshee> if it only applies to one or the other and I can't figure out how to reconcile it, then I'll ask you to provide it for the other one ;-)
[20:10] <sforshee> or if they are in linux-next already you can just give me the sha1's and I can cherry pick them directly
[20:11] <tyhicks> I think it'll apply cleanly to 4.13 and will need a little work to 4.12 so I'll do the backport to artful/master-next and then reference the sha1's from linux-next for unstable/master-next
[20:12] <sforshee> wfm
[20:15] <sforshee> jjohansen: do you have an ETA for apparmor sauce for 4.13?
[20:19] <jjohansen> sforshee: my 4.14 pull request is going out this week, so I should be able to get you it by the end of week
[20:20] <jjohansen> there will be a couple of patches that are in revision and are targeted to 4.15 that we will probably get some revision, but we can revert and apply newer iterations as needed
[20:22] <sforshee> jjohansen: sounds great, thanks