[00:52] <thumper> afternoon
[00:56] <kcj> Afternoon.
[19:44] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:57] <ojwb> morning
[20:20] <chilts> morning
[20:20] <chilts> shucks, I never said morning yesterday!
[20:20]  * chilts <- bad person
[20:24] <ojwb> it was tough, but we survived without you doing your bit
[20:26] <Atamira> morning
[20:28] <chilts> ojwb: heh, good job everyone :)
[20:34] <ajmitch> morning
[20:51] <thumper> morning
[22:00] <thomi> lifeless: got a second?
[22:19] <lifeless> sure
[22:25] <thomi> lifeless: given a python dotted string like "foo.bar.baz", is there a way to tell if that refers to a python module or a python package?
[22:27] <lifeless> do you mean 'refers to (a python module or a python package)' or 'refers to (a pytohn module) or refers to (a python package)' ?
[22:28] <lifeless> (what question are you trying to answer, and why?)
[22:29] <thomi> lifeless: I meant the latter. The problem we're trying to solve is:
[22:30] <thomi> we'd like users to be able to run one or more autopilot tests by specifying a string of varying exact-ness. They might specify an entire test id (i.e.- right up to, and including the actual test classmethod), or they might specify just a test case class, a test module, or perhaps just a package that contains several test modules.
[22:31] <thomi> testools test loader has twho methods for loading tests: discover (which takes a package name), and loadTestsFromName (which takes a module, class, of function name)
[22:31] <thomi> so we need a way of knowing if we should call 'discover(name)' or 'loadTestsFromName(name)'
[22:31] <lifeless> oh
[22:31] <thomi> does that make sense?
[22:31] <lifeless> so, if I may suggest
[22:31] <lifeless> you're turned around backwards
[22:31] <thomi> oh?
[22:31] <lifeless> you want a UI for letting the user select tests to run, as a user of the system.
[22:32] <lifeless> This is distinct from telling the system how to instantiate tests.
[22:32] <lifeless> discover and loadTestsFromName have quite different behaviour, you will have less friction if you pick one and stick with it.
[22:32] <thomi> I see. so maybe we use discover, get all the tests and filter them ourselves
[22:33] <lifeless> indeed
[22:33] <thomi> awesome. That makes sense
[22:33] <thomi> thanks :)
[22:33] <lifeless> thats what e.g. bzr selftest does (with some glue to optimise the time to instantiate tests - but it has 20K tests)
[22:33] <thomi> ahh, I see
[22:33] <thomi> BTW, meet veebers (new QA engineer in Dunedin and on the PyCon conference committee)
[22:34] <lifeless> o/
[22:34] <veebers> Hi lifeless :)
[22:34] <thomi> you lost an arm!
[22:34] <thomi>  /o\
[22:34] <ajmitch> veebers: you finally decided to lurk in here? :)
[22:36] <veebers> ajmitch: heya. yeah, I just think I need to increase my lurk-ness :)
[22:37] <ajmitch> just remember to say 'morning' each day
[22:39] <veebers> right, noted.
[22:39] <veebers> morning all
[23:23] <mwhudson_> morning


[12:06] <mamarley> RikMills: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1952977 is what I was talking about the other day with that patch. :)
[12:11] <RikMills> mamarley: yeah, we had a qtbase autosync
[12:11] <RikMills> I have a fixed qtbase in -proposed
[12:12] <RikMills> well, one built against the old openssl anyway
[12:14] <mamarley> Yeah, that's actually why I noticed, that version was going to install over the version I have in my PPA with the patch.
[12:31] <RikMills> once the proposed one mas migrated, we can probably apply the patch and make that new build depend on openssl 3 so it won't migrate until openssl does
[12:38] <mamarley> OK
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:09] <nicoz-> what bugs have you encountered so far?
[14:10] <nicoz-> I'm running it both from virtual and on an HP notebook g8
[14:11] <BluesKaj> only one that's easily resolved and it's a nondefualt app that loads properly after loggout and in again, my vpn
[14:14] <nicoz-> besides a few other problems that Ksystemlog crashed, no other problems detected so far
[14:15] <nicoz-> obviously crashes always reported


[08:44] <mardy> vigo: hi! about the bug where you cannot create accounts in unity8: when you press on an account provider, do you see a spinner, or nothing at all?
[08:44] <vigo> mardy, morning mardy! happy friday
[08:44] <vigo> yes sure, the spinner was there
[08:45] <vigo> and it never finishes to load the account
[08:48] <CoderEurope> the webbrowser-app on my bq aquarius isn't coming up - how do I correct this ?
[08:52] <CoderEurope> Cant find anything here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app
[09:34] <CoderEurope> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-16
[09:34] <CoderEurope> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-16
[15:17] <dobey> sil2100: hmm, i just realized. the language-pack-touch-* packages aren't in zesty or in the overlay for xenial. how is that supposed to work out?
[15:19] <sil2100> We didn't really support anything besides vivid for touch in the past, I guess we need to look into that
[15:20] <dobey> sil2100: right, but the translations for a bunch of unity8 things only exist in those packages right?
[18:18] <mahakal> Hi Guys.I have a smartphome with 1 Gb Ram .its ROOTED. whats the safest way to install ubuntu-touch on it
[20:53] <Buse> Hallå alla hade behövt lite hjälp
[20:54] <Buse> Jag planerar på att installera Ubuntu Touch på min Samsug Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 P5110. Någon som har erfarenhet kring detta så jag kan göra det på enklast sätt
[20:57] <dobey> !devices | buse
[21:02] <Buse> Well Dobey i have seen that list. I my device is good to go, but i would need some guidence how to
[21:04] <dobey> Buse: i don't think your device is really supported. there is an image that was last touched ~4 years ago
[21:06] <dobey> someone would really need to update the port if possible, if you really want to try ubuntu on it
[21:07] <dobey> doesn't seem to have android 4.4 available though so not sure how feasible that is


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[05:56] <infina12> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[06:27] <Guest97833> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[10:04] <letty14> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[11:05] <badet0s0> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:12] <andries5> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[13:12] <andries5> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[13:48] <UncleSamuel> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[14:37] <bluszcz21> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[15:10] <Hoosilon7> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[15:18] <hvxgr11> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[17:18] <agree> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[17:31] <tasse14> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[17:31] <tasse14> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[17:38] <stalled2> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[17:48] <m5> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
[17:48] <m5> "All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."
[18:12] <benoliver99919> After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/
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[11:55] <Blissex> Chryseus: but <Bambino> can play MP3s with XMMS he has said, so he has already done some of that.
[11:55] <Chryseus> nope
[11:56] <Blissex> Bambino: you need to upgrade most/all of your music players to the non-official versions that do use the non-official codecs.
[11:56] <doktoreas> hi guys!
[11:56] <Chryseus> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[11:56] <doktoreas> just for knowing, witch tool ubuntu, uses to get the right resolution on the livecd?
[12:01] <Bambino> Chryseus, I am running gstreamer0.10 is that enough or i need 0.8 aswell
[12:01] <Chryseus> ..you on dapper?
[12:03] <Bambino> Chryseus, yes.
[12:03] <doktoreas> does it uses ddcxinfo-knoppix ?
[12:04] <Chryseus> And now you tell me
[12:05] <Bambino> Chryseus, Bambino does anyone know how i can make amarok work on my pc? I have dapper, but the xine engine is not working at all
[12:05] <Tm_T> Bambino: tell me more about it
[12:05] <Bambino> Chryseus, :P
[12:05] <Tm_T> "doesn't work" doesn't tell anything about the problem


[01:14] <diddledan> hmm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S97TCpuBvnc the w3c doesn't actually exist?
[01:17] <daftykins> D:
[02:07] <ali1234> it's the hot new thing in project management
[02:08] <ali1234> when the org does something good, it's because of the org
[02:09] <ali1234> but when the org does something bad, it doesn't really exist and the bad thing is just down to whichever individuals did it
[07:38] <diplo> Morning all
[08:12] <ali1234> i just sold something on ebay \o/
[08:16] <diplo> Well done, wait for the issue after the buyer receives it :)
[08:16] <diplo> Do you sleep ali1234 ? :)
[08:18] <ali1234> i was just thinking of going to bed actually, but now i have to post the item
[08:21] <diplo> heh, service with a smile
[08:28] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:07] <ali1234> i wonder if i should put this through my invoicing system
[09:07] <ali1234> its only 99p
[09:08] <ali1234> but otoh i have another 800 to sell
[09:15] <diplo> Might as well start as you mean to go on ali1234 - just shy of 800
[09:18] <ali1234> ebay dont seem to have charged me a final value fee
[09:19] <ali1234> i dont understand this at all
[09:19] <MooDoo> howdy all
[09:37] <diplo> Hey MooDoo, hows things? and yeah I stopped using ebay as it a pita
[09:37] <MooDoo> diplo: yeah i'm good thanks
[09:53] <MooDoo> bit tired, but ok :D your good self?
[09:54] <diplo> Sorry work got in the way, pretty much the same. Cycled to work today ( not that far ) but I was trying to race a bus... probably over did it :D
[09:54] <MooDoo> hehe yeah work....i'm coding some php
[09:58] <MooDoo> omg FACEBOOK IS DOWN EVERYONE PANIC ;)
[09:58] <zmoylan-pi> they'll be flooding onto irc soon \o/
[09:59] <zmoylan-pi> ascii art baby pics everywhere...
[09:59] <MooDoo> lol
[10:04] <ali1234> also pokemon go
[10:13] <zmoylan-pi> they can all sign up for the google ar game while they wait for that to come back... if they aren't already playing it...
[12:38] <m0nkey_> Facebook can go suck a lemon
[13:10] <diddledan> oh, adobe: https://twitter.com/jupenur/status/911286403434246144/photo/1
[13:13] <diddledan> hah, they only made the key 3 days before they revoked it on the 22nd
[13:13] <diddledan> 4 days*
[13:14] <diddledan> c.f. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKWwdPUUMAE_k0P.jpg
[13:20] <m0nkey_> Why doesn't this surpise me anymore?
[14:22] <diddledan> shooty robots: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3KEoMzNz8eYnwBC34RaKCQ
[14:36] <zmoylan-pi> i like my robots stabby like the t-1000 it's the personal touch that shows it cares... :-P
[14:37] <zmoylan-pi> clamps are an acceptable substitute... :-P
[15:16] <wholeccode> hello any halp with router configs ?https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/the-ars-guide-to-building-a-linux-router-from-scratch/
[18:27] <ali1234> popey: can you remember the name of the irc channel for your minecraft server, before it was bitfolk-minecraft?
[18:30] <popey> was it ubuntu-uk-minecraft?
[18:30] <ali1234> yes, i literally just found the log i was looking for :)
[18:30] <popey> \o/
[18:30] <popey> wierd, I was talking about that minecraft server in the pub last night!
[18:30] <popey> calculon, clamps and andolyne (iirc)
[18:31] <daftykins> such Futurama!
[18:31] <ali1234> hivemind :)
[18:31] <ali1234> microsoft just released a big update for the C++ version (aka bedrock)
[18:31] <ali1234> now has cross play for ... everything except windows version before 10, mac and linux
[18:32] <ali1234> so it's a hot topic at the moment
[19:58] <diddledan> ali1234: everything *except* those three?
[19:58] <ali1234> yes
[19:58] <diddledan> so it only supports crossplay on windows10+
[19:58] <ali1234> bedrock now has cross play for win 10, android, xbox, and soon nintendo switch
[19:58] <diddledan> mac and linux are stfu who cares?!
[19:59] <ali1234> oh and iOS
[19:59] <ali1234> so win10, mobiles, and consoles
[19:59] <ali1234> also it has microtransactions
[19:59] <diddledan> gah
[20:00] <ali1234> an you have to buy it separately on every platform
[20:00] <ali1234> you get the win10 version free if you own the java version though
[20:01] <diddledan> for me a lot of the appeal of minecraft as mojang made it was that it was available for linux
[20:01] <ali1234> of course
[20:02] <diddledan> I look at all this movement and wish for mojang not to have sold out
[20:02] <ali1234> it doesn't really matter
[20:02] <ali1234> most of the development on java version is in mods now
[20:02] <ali1234> and bedrock doesn't have mods at all yet
[20:03] <ali1234> the java code is almost completely deobfuscated at this point, it would probably be better if mojang abandoned it, because modders would then have a fixed target
[20:13] <ali1234> minecraft client and server would be an interesting project for someone to snap. probably not redistributable though, you'd have to use a launcher or something i guess
[20:13] <ali1234> also forge/gradle/eclipse would be an interesting target for umake, if that's still a thing
[20:16] <ali1234> hmm... "snapcraft" is already an overloaded term in minecraft world...
[20:31] <diddledan> ali1234: looks like there's `minecraft-server-jdstrand` and `minecraft-nsg` available
[20:31] <ali1234> cool
[20:32] <diddledan> there's also `cuberite` which claims to be a "performant open source minecraft server written in C++"
[20:36] <ali1234> looks interesting
[20:36] <ali1234> i wonder how they can implement modding without changing the client
[20:37] <ali1234> i guess you can't make new block types etc
[21:18] <diddledan> twitter just invented an amazing new feature: https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/product/2017/Giving-you-more-characters-to-express-yourself.html
[21:53] <diddledan> who fancies a bit of "how do ya do?"?
[21:54] <diddledan> I'll start: "how do you do?"
[21:54] <diddledan> I think I might be in trouble with the ops if I keep that behaviour up
[21:57] <diddledan> I could make it even worse by switching up to "how's ya father?"...
[22:02] <diddledan> soo, iOS11 is out for less than a week, and https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208143
[22:44] <diddledan> https://www.androidcentral.com/apple-wins-two-patent-rulings-against-qualcomm <-- neither of which are related to patents
[23:43] <daftykins> :)
[23:44] <daftykins> diddledan: the performance of the A11 chip is quite impressive, kinda shows how Qualcomm and Samsung are corrupt blighters not innovating enough
[23:44] <daftykins> just slowly bumping values and cashing in
[23:45] <diddledan> mmhmm
[23:46] <daftykins> aaah too much wine and xboxing with a mate
[23:47] <daftykins> well that was a bit embarassing, a while back i ignored skype wanting to merge my account with my MS account, so i left it with a basic password that i must've used years ago when last.fm got hacked
[23:47] <daftykins> so just earlier everyone got a spam baidu link from my account D: all resolved now though
[23:47] <daftykins> accounts merged and 2FA in place, still a bit worrying
[23:47] <diddledan> ergh
[23:48] <diddledan> it's annoying when you forget about old accounts
[23:48] <daftykins> ikr :(


[06:19] <DanChapman> Good Morning
[06:58] <dholbach> good morning
[07:01] <mihir> I am getting an error after upgrading to 14.04 , http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7248385/
[07:01] <mihir> for opening core apps.
[07:22] <justCarakas> Good morning all
[07:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy Look Up at the Sky Day! :-D
[07:37] <justCarakas> JamesTait: oww I only can see the ceiling :(
[07:39] <JamesTait> justCarakas, same here, for the moment. :(  A result of an unfortunate combination of unpredictable weather, unpredictable internet and sadly very predictable battery life. ;)
[07:43] <justCarakas> JamesTait: didn't you forget bad visibility due monitor glare ?
[08:43] <popey> bzoltan: how do we clean up (from the sdk/qtc side) the .desktop files dropped in /home/phablet/.local/share/applications/ ?
[08:44] <popey> bzoltan: i have 3 blank icons on my phone because I was testing out apps from qtc, and traced these to the .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications, and using the UI on the phone to remove them (long press -> uninstall) doesn't work.
[09:01] <bzoltan> popey: have you installed those apps from click package or just CtrlF12'd them?
[09:05] <popey> bzoltan: just CTRL+F12
[09:05] <bzoltan> popey:  in that case it is a bug ... darn
[09:06] <bzoltan> popey:  let me sort it out
[09:06] <popey> bzoltan: want me to file a bug?
[09:07] <bzoltan> popey: no need
[09:07] <popey> ok
[09:28] <bzoltan> popey:  you know hat is the fun with this bug? :)  your apps are still running
[09:47] <popey> bzoltan: unlikely given the phone has been rebooted a few times
[10:06] <bzoltan> popey: in that case they are killed... I just realized that the apps are not terminated when you close them from the UI.  Anyhow I got the fix. We will not use the ~/.local
[10:18] <popey> bzoltan: thanks
[10:53] <bzoltan> popey:  that will land soon -> https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/desktop_file_cleanup/+merge/215636 We stop using the ~/local/share/application for the desktop files
[12:04] <dpm> zbenjamin, how does the cmake plugin find the executable to run when hitting Ctrl+R? I've got a project that no longer runs (I get "no executable specified"), and I don't think I've done any changes to it since last week, when IIRC it used to just run with Ctrl+R
[12:37] <dpm> popey, I've just put this in a cron job: http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/
[12:38] <popey> nice!
[12:38]  * popey bookmarks
[12:47] <zbenjamin> dpm: it looks up the exec path in the desktop file
[12:48] <dpm> zbenjamin, so if the exec path is: "myapp" it won't find the executable in the local build directory?
[12:50] <zbenjamin> dpm: ah it wants you to set the executable manually?
[12:50] <zbenjamin> dpm: check if there are other runconfigs created
[12:50] <zbenjamin> dpm: there is a dropdown box on the runconfig page
[12:52] <dpm> zbenjamin, aha, that works, thanks! However, should QtC not set that up for me automatically?
[12:54] <renato_> nik90, hi
[12:58] <zbenjamin> dpm: well there is no way for a runconfiguration to tell QtC it should be the default one. Only thing i could do is use some queued slot call that gets executed when control goes back to the eventloop
[13:00] <dpm> zbenjamin, in my case I seemed to have one runconfig already defined, but the working directory was empty, so it wouldn't find the exec in the build directory - just mentioning it in case it helps
[14:00] <dpm> fginther, joining us for the core apps call today?
[14:01] <fginther> dpm, I have a conflict, but I'll join if this other meeting ends early
[14:03] <dpm> thanks fginther
[14:03] <dpm> popey, let me grab my network cable
[14:19] <mihir> renato_, ping
[14:19] <mihir> renato_, after upgrading 14.04 , i am trying to run calendar app from SDK
[14:19] <mihir> it gives me EDS error
[14:19] <mihir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7249963/
[14:19] <mihir> any idea..?
[14:22] <renato_> mihir, on device on desktop?
[14:24] <mihir> renato_, desktop
[14:25] <renato_> mihir, very strange looks like a problem in GTK
[14:26] <mihir> renato_, hmm, i tried re-installing EDS but didn't work.
[14:27] <renato_> mihir, let me upgrade my packages maybe I can reproduce the error
[14:27] <mihir> renato_, sure , i just upgraded my machine day before yesterday.
[14:27] <mihir> and upgraded latests updates yest.
[14:54] <popey> dpm: how often does that sponsoring page update?
[14:54] <dpm> popey, hourly if the cron job didn't fail :)
[14:55] <popey> dpm: do rejected items not appear in the queue?
[14:55] <dpm> popey, I think I need to tweak the script regarding the filtering that it does. Right now it only lists branches that have had no review
[14:55] <popey> ok
[17:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> for the layouts, when the phone is flipped on its side, do I just make a custom conditional layout that detects then the width > x?
[17:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> or is there a layout setting that automatically detects the orientation?
[17:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> sorry, does that make sense?
[20:13] <alaak> Hi. Is it normal that I am currently not able to upload a new version of my App?
[20:14] <alaak> I always get something like:             {"traceback": "Traceback (most recent call last):\n  File \"/srv/pkgme-service.canonical.com/production/pkgme-service/sourcecode/../src/djpkgme/tasks.py\", line 536, in run\n    logger=self.get_logger())\n  File \"/srv/pkgme-service.canonical.com/production/pkgme-service/sourcecode/../src/djpkgme/client.py\", line 66, in submit_to_myapps\n    raise CallbackError(url, 'PUT', response.s
[20:14] <daker> alaak: that's an error
[20:14] <popey> beuno: ^^
[20:15] <beuno> james_w, ^
[20:16] <alaak> ok. So I need to wait for a fix to be applied on the server side.
[20:24] <popey> alaak: yes.
[20:26] <alaak> ok. thanks for the information
[20:27] <james_w> damn, I have no-one to pass the buck to
[20:28] <james_w> well, don't have the full traceback and they left


[15:44] <mhall119> nhaines: ping, are you guys getting the UbuCon talk proposals? I've been sending a number of people tothe scale CFP
[19:23] <mhall119> nhaines: sent another prospective speaker your way


[04:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL43484a024ce7: Add send to back for images] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL43484a024ce7
[05:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2313
[05:56] <wxl> why does calamares-settings-ubuntu have an epoch in the version?
[05:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGSe647964386a7: Fix UnboundLocalError in automirror module] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGSe647964386a7
 @wxl [<wxl> why does calamares-settings-ubuntu have an epoch in the version?], [ Simon Quigley ] … * Change the version number to be release-based.
 @tsimonq2 bruv! you gonna tell me what do I do with the theme? or anyone else ploxx?
 E:SimonIsDead
[17:14] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker spoke to simon and he says that we need to make the grub theme part of lubuntu-artwork, i.e. it's a binary package installed by that source package. furthermore, you can look at the theme that mate used to have for hints as far as postinst scripts, etc
[18:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL60bf826546f5: Add Bring picture to front] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL60bf826546f5
[18:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6702915c1c64: Add send backward of image] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6702915c1c64
[19:05] <wxl> @apt-ghetto not sure you saw this but https://phab.lubuntu.me/D42#984
[19:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fix UnboundLocalError in automirror module: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D42#984
 someone says vlc is now broken on a normal install? seems to work in Kubuntu
[19:07] <wxl> fun never ends
 it works on my already installed and updated system. I can try a new install to see what happens.
[19:08] <wxl> ignoring vlc for a moment and regarding xscreensaver, two ideas that would be good to get some feedback on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2311 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2312
[19:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2311
[19:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2312
[19:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2314
[19:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2315
[19:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2316
 @kc2bez [it works on my already installed and updated system. I can try a new install to …], works on a new kubuntu install
[19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALde0468cae01a: Add bring forward to loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALde0468cae01a
 @RikMills [works on a new kubuntu install], The status is the same as it has been for a bit. VLC doesn't work in live but works fine on a freshly installed system.
 Some on the bugs said otherwise. Just checking
 @lynorian you might want to change some screesnhots of pcmanfm-qt now that thumbnail-view icon changed.
 @guiverc ^ you saw that?
[20:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALefd3d5f78ccb: Add rotate to image] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALefd3d5f78ccb
[20:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd725b53ba481: Add libreoffice spellcheck screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd725b53ba481
 @wxl [<wxl> @apt-ghetto not sure you saw this but https://phab.lubuntu.me/D42#984], Yes, I saw it, but someone submitted my commit...
[21:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fix UnboundLocalError in automirror module: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D42#984],
[21:03] <wxl[m]> You can always make another!
 Maybe we should wait for the 20.04 development cycle? … Refactoring is always good for introducing new bugs.
[21:08]  * wxl shrugs
[21:09] <wxl> i don't think this is a particular drastic refactor to be fair
[21:09] <wxl> furthermore i'd rather have new bugs in a non-LTS version
[21:10] <wxl> they should be considered as the perfect opportunity to take risks
 Might be also a good starting task for a new packager? … If there is no one claiming this task, I can work on it Friday or Saturday.
[21:13] <wxl> yeah i don't know anyone waiting for more stuff to do except raman and he's got enough on his plate XD
 Yeah, @The_LoudSpeaker tends to break everything 😂 … Maybe Daniel is interested?
[21:24] <wxl> i give him a lot of credit for his perseverence
[21:24] <wxl> i think dan's been drowning in work like me
[21:46] <kc2bez> If you meant me, then yeah, it has been pretty busy. It is looking up for me though. We had a new sysadmin start today so once he gets a bit of training that will free up some of my cycles.
[21:47] <wxl> once we get ours i'll be in a similar boat
 We are all drowning in work wxl lol
 Just different work for each of us xD
[21:54] <wxl> yup
[22:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb4b1564ea09c: Remove double space] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb4b1564ea09c
 I'll be out untill sept25.
 @HMollerCl [I'll be out untill sept25.], Okay, be well!
 thanks!
[22:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL070a53bc65c3: Add flip vertically for images] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL070a53bc65c3
[22:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8156e77759d6: Add flip horizontally to pictures] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8156e77759d6
[22:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc003b1871d82: Reword font checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc003b1871d82
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a3dae48fd3d: Add Only embed used checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a3dae48fd3d
[23:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb9d2af76157f: Add lowriter Latin fonts checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb9d2af76157f


[04:37] <JaZZyCooL> hey guys
[04:38] <JaZZyCooL> right now I am in kubuntu 14.10 live version
[04:39] <JaZZyCooL> but the thing is I am only getting resolution of 1240x768
[04:39] <JaZZyCooL> I tried changing settings using display manager but it has the maximum resolution of only 1240x768
[04:39] <JaZZyCooL> how can I change the resolution and will this resolution remain the same even after installation
[04:41] <JaZZyCooL> guys anyone
[04:42] <JaZZyCooL> I would highly appreciate your help
[04:42] <JaZZyCooL> please
[04:43] <JaZZyCooL> guys anyone
[04:43] <JaZZyCooL> ?
[04:46] <JaZZyCooL> guys I really need help please anyone
[04:49] <JaZZyCooL> ??
[04:52] <JaZZyCooL> guys please anyone
[04:52] <JaZZyCooL> I am really in ineed
[04:54] <DarthFrog> what resolution do you want?
[04:55] <DarthFrog> And what video card do you have?
[04:56] <JaZZyCooL> I have nvidia
[04:56] <JaZZyCooL> gt650m
[04:57] <JaZZyCooL> and I want resolution of 1366x768
[04:57] <JaZZyCooL> but right now I m in live mode though
[04:57] <DarthFrog> Ah.  Live with it.
[04:57] <JaZZyCooL> so will it set to the proper resolution once I install the OS
[04:58] <DarthFrog> If you had installed Kubuntu, you could have installed the proprietary Nvidia drivers and choose the resolution you want.  Not from a live CD though.
[04:59] <JaZZyCooL> ok
[04:59] <JaZZyCooL> one last question
[04:59] <JaZZyCooL> are there any problems with the installing of nvidia drives and should I install the one that says recommended
[04:59] <DarthFrog> Answers are $1, correct answers are $10.  Dumb looks are still free.
[05:00] <JaZZyCooL> lol
[05:00] <DarthFrog> it should work.
[05:00] <JaZZyCooL> because I had some problems in the past so just making sure
[05:00] <DarthFrog> That's a free answer. :-)
[05:00] <JaZZyCooL> lol
[05:01] <DarthFrog> A GTX 650 is a pretty recent card.  The 331 drivers should work fine with it.
[05:01] <DarthFrog> Run "nvidia-xconfig" after installing the drivers, though.
[05:01] <JaZZyCooL> also I am re-installing kubuntu at the place where my xubuntu is right now
[05:01] <JaZZyCooL> should I keep the same /, swap area I had for xubuntu and press install
[05:02] <DarthFrog> You don't have to re-install.  Just install the "kubuntu-desktop" package and choose which one you want at log in time.
[05:02] <DarthFrog> Really, you don't have to re-install.
[05:02] <JaZZyCooL> well I dont want xubuntu
[05:02] <JaZZyCooL> so
[05:02] <DarthFrog> So don't choose it at login.
[05:02] <JaZZyCooL> i want kubuntu instead
[05:03] <JaZZyCooL> well I have xubuntu 13.10 right now
[05:03] <JaZZyCooL> and its support is ending in july
[05:03] <DarthFrog> Re-install if you want but you don't have to.  The underlying system is the same, the difference is in the GUi.
[05:03] <JaZZyCooL> so switching to kubuntu 14.10
[05:03] <DarthFrog> 14.04
[05:03] <JaZZyCooL> yeah my bad
[05:03] <JaZZyCooL> lol
[05:04] <DarthFrog> "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[05:04] <DarthFrog> Then install "kubuntu-desktop".  Bingo, you'll be running Kubuntu 14.04.  Or Xubuntu 14.04 if you wish.
[05:05] <JaZZyCooL> well so just writing that statement would upgrade my OS
[05:05] <TheFakeazneD525> yes
[05:05] <JaZZyCooL> to 14.04
[05:05] <TheFakeazneD525> not instantly
[05:05] <TheFakeazneD525> but yes
[05:05] <TheFakeazneD525> also, the more packages installed
[05:05] <TheFakeazneD525> the more time it takes
[05:05] <JaZZyCooL> what do u mean by not instantly
[05:06] <TheFakeazneD525> JaZZyCooL: it has to work a bit
[05:06] <TheFakeazneD525> so don't hold your breath after you run it
[05:06] <DarthFrog> Takes a while to configure, download and install.
[05:06] <TheFakeazneD525> because it upgrades ALL packages
[05:06] <TheFakeazneD525> and does some reconfiguration
[05:06] <DarthFrog> You just sit back and watch.
[05:06] <JaZZyCooL> u mean it will take time to install and download?
[05:06] <TheFakeazneD525> JaZZyCooL: yes
[05:06] <JaZZyCooL> ok gotcha
[05:06] <TheFakeazneD525> and DO NOT, for any reason shut down the computer
[05:06] <JaZZyCooL> thanks for the help guys
[05:06] <TheFakeazneD525> it will wreck your system
[05:06] <TheFakeazneD525> especially if it's in  the "unpacking" stage
[05:07] <DarthFrog> Good luck.    You will have a box with the choices available to you.  Choose KDE.
[05:08] <DarthFrog> If you've installed kubuntu-desktop, that is.
[05:08] <TheFakeazneD525> Oh yeah
[05:08] <TheFakeazneD525> the kubuntu-desktop package does NOT provide all KDE apps
[05:09] <TheFakeazneD525> for all KDE apps, install the kde-full package
[05:09] <JaZZyCooL> ok gotcha
[05:09] <TheFakeazneD525> but it does swap out lightdm for kdm, which may be problematic
[05:09] <JaZZyCooL> well I dont want kde apps I am guessing as I all want is a different look to my desktop
[05:09] <TheFakeazneD525> JaZZyCooL: no prob
[05:09] <TheFakeazneD525> I like plasma desktop, it's very clean, and easy to configure
[05:10] <TheFakeazneD525> Plasma desktop is the name of KDE's desktop environment, btw
[05:10] <JaZZyCooL> yeah so the problem u told of switching the lightdm to KDM
[05:10] <JaZZyCooL> how can I solve that
[05:10] <TheFakeazneD525> JaZZyCooL: hmm, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:10] <TheFakeazneD525> and then choose lightdm
[05:10] <TheFakeazneD525> wait, lemme test that
[05:11] <DarthFrog> On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with kdm.
[05:11] <TheFakeazneD525> DarthFrog: it was a bit memory intensive for me...
[05:11] <TheFakeazneD525> but yeah, nothing wrong with it though
[05:13] <JaZZyCooL> ok
[05:13] <JaZZyCooL> so sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm would solve my problem?
[05:13] <DarthFrog> What problem?
[05:14] <JaZZyCooL> the lightdm or KDM
[05:14] <JaZZyCooL> whatever thefake
[05:14] <JaZZyCooL> told
[05:14] <DarthFrog> That's not a problem. :-)
[05:14] <JaZZyCooL> oh ok...lol
[05:14] <JaZZyCooL> thanks guys I highly appreciate your help
[05:14] <DarthFrog> It would allow you to choose which DM is used.
[05:14] <JaZZyCooL> oh ok
[05:14] <DarthFrog> If you prefer LightDM, you could choose it.
[05:15] <DarthFrog> Prefer, I said.
[05:15] <JaZZyCooL> ok
[05:15] <JaZZyCooL> thanks a lot guys u saved me today i highly appreciate your help
[05:15] <DarthFrog> Go forth and have fun!
[05:16] <JaZZyCooL> thanks brother
[08:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:33] <paradoxajd> hello, can someone here help me configure kate build plugin
[08:33] <paradoxajd> not help in #kate :(
[08:35] <lordievader> Hmm, I do think you'd have more luck in #kate, perhaps try again a bit later?
[08:37] <paradoxajd> seems so
[10:07] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:07] <OsBinHD> hello any one tryed install kali tools on kubuntu 14.04?
[11:16] <BluesKaj> OsBinHD, do you mean use Kali to draw Escher-like tilings, infinite knots, frieze patterns etc?
[11:18] <DesignerX> hi, I get static noise  my speakers. Not sure if it's some settings problem or need a new driver ? it's using the on board Audio Plug
 na lad kali linux  tools :D
[11:23] <BluesKaj> DesignerX, check alsamixer to make sure you aren't overloading the speaker inputs, 80%  alsa level is usually enough for speakers that have their own volume ctrl
[11:24] <DesignerX> kk ty
[11:25] <DesignerX> I see QasMixer  is that it ?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> type alsamixer in the terminal
[11:26] <DesignerX> kk
[11:27] <DesignerX> I put all output to under the max but still the same noise
[11:27] <DesignerX> noise is on even if nothing is playing
[11:28] <BluesKaj> is it constant noise or intermittent?
[11:28] <DesignerX> constant
[11:29] <DesignerX> tried difernt headsets & even the Monitor speakers have the same problem
[11:29] <BluesKaj> crackling, buzzing or hum
[11:29] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:31] <DesignerX> crackling noise
[11:31] <DesignerX> like noise from an OLD tv
[11:31] <BluesKaj> monitor speakers, self powered or connected to an amp?
[11:32] <DesignerX> self powered buit in the screen
[11:32] <DesignerX> & same noise with headphones
[11:33] <BluesKaj> is this the onboard audio chip or a separate pci sound card ?
[11:33] <DesignerX> onboard
[11:33] <DesignerX> onboard for the headphones  & HDMI for the screen
[11:34] <BluesKaj> ok what about the hdmi , how's the sound there since it's a digital signal
[11:35] <DesignerX> will double check it now after I used that terminal audio controller
[11:37] <DesignerX> ok, HDMI is ok  but headphones are noisy
[11:40] <DesignerX> mm so why HDMI working fine but headphones are not ?  I will dig around to see what I can find, if you got some tips dont be shy to share :)
[11:43] <BluesKaj> seems you have a bad analog connection on the soundcard since the digital signal is fine
[11:44] <BluesKaj> or there's a device nearby transmitting interference signals picked up by the the analog preamaplifier on the soundcard
[13:06] <m_tadeu> hi... is  there a timeline like application? my objective is to mark events on time so that I can check when they happen, and distances between them
[13:08] <BluesKaj> m_tadeu, like the /var/log syslog ?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> m_tadeu, correction: like the /var/log/syslog ?
[13:10] <m_tadeu> BluesKaj: naa...some user app to mark events, almost like a diary....I want to mark events that happen to people, to check behavior patters
[13:13] <BluesKaj> ok m_tadeu, then I have no idea
[13:14] <floown> hello
[13:14] <floown> I have a postfix error
[13:14] <BluesKaj> m_tadeu, you need some kind of monitor on other users?
[13:15] <floown> http://pastebin.com/D4TdAtpP
[13:15] <floown> Someone can help me please?
[13:22] <floown> my main.cf http://pastebin.com/0CWvkYdX
[13:28] <Pici> floown: Get rid of the . after your hostnames on lines 14, 15 and 16
[13:32] <floown> Pici: I don't understand well, sorry for my english. You say that I should enter the result of the "hostname" command instead of the reverse dns ?
[13:32] <DesignerX> hi again, I got this wirless driver problem again , my system doesnt detect the wirless card
[13:34] <DesignerX> and , is it normal for sudo rfkill list all  to NOT return anything ?!
[13:46] <DesignerX> hi
[13:46] <DesignerX> sorry got DC
[13:47] <DesignerX>  is it normal for sudo rfkill list all  to NOT return anything ?!
[18:38] <Ximo_> Hello guys
[18:38] <lordievader> o/
[18:38] <Ximo_> I'm trying to use Kamoso but the webcam seems to not work since the screen is all black
[18:38] <Ximo_> Do you know where can I start searching?
[18:38] <Ximo_> few time ago worked..
[18:39] <lordievader> Ximo_: Start it from the konsole, perhaps that give you a clue on what the problem is.
[18:41] <Ximo_> lordievader: ohh, nice
[18:45] <Ximo_> Anyone knows if this could be the problem? http://paste.debian.net/plain/104178
[18:46] <lordievader> Ximo_: It's very unlikely that it is ibus.
[18:46] <Ximo_> nothing more appears
[18:47] <Ximo_> I don't know how to get it working or how to search for a solution
[18:53] <Ximo> Sooo if anyone knows how to start to solve it.. :)
[18:53] <Ximo> thanks
[19:02] <Exagone313> should I upgrade my 12.04 installation to 14.04 (because 12.04 is not obsolete) ?
[19:04] <lordievader> Exagone313: You can upgrade from Precise once 14.04.1 is released.
[19:06] <Exagone313> when?
[19:07] <Exagone313> is 14.04.1 LTS too ?
[19:07] <genii> Yes.
[19:08] <genii> Exagone313: July 24th is when 14.04.1 is due
[19:08] <genii> At that point it will be possible to go 12.04->14.04 directly
[19:09] <georgelappies> how many of you change lightdm to kdm?
[19:09] <Exagone313> ok
[19:09] <georgelappies> for me kdm transitions much more smoothly into my desktop
[19:11] <paradoxajd> hello
[19:11] <paradoxajd> anyone tried using this in sirupsen.com/a-simple-imgur-bash-screenshot-utility/
[19:11] <paradoxajd> in kubuntu 14.04
[19:13] <lordievader> georgelappies: Not on Kubuntu, there I just leave it LightDM.
[19:14] <georgelappies> lordievader: but what is the benefit of using lightdm on a KDE desktop?
[19:19] <Ximo> How can I detect the problem?
[19:32] <lordievader> georgelappies: The great advantage is that it works in Kubuntu, since the devs test for LightDM and not KDM.
[21:45] <Ximo> Hello, can anybody help me?
[21:45] <Ximo> I don't know how to get working my webcam
[23:53] <DesignerX> hi, any idea why sudo rfkill list  doesnt show anything ?