[20:31] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: mine does yes, thats the network manager app not the chip's job
[20:31] <Marfi> Is there a way to use plasmoids in gnome?
[20:31] <HammerHead66> dirty: do you know how to do that?
[20:31] <Unggnu> ActionParsnip1: NM coudn't handle it with Ndiswrapper
[20:31] <crdlb> Unggnu: you don't leave your router on all the time?
[20:31] <Unggnu> but with Intel
[20:31] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Well, if you aren't running a flash app, that probably isn't your problem.
[20:31] <Unggnu> crdlb: right
[20:32] <brucealdridge> when I type an a, d,g, j,m,p,t,w,. in terminal I get an underline, pressing multiple times I get the next letter like cellphone input...
[20:32]  * crdlb wonders why someone would do that
[20:32] <eqisow1> Marfi: gdesklets is the gnome equivalent
[20:32] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Does firefox tend to freeze up?
[20:32] <Unggnu> thanks for help, ciao
[20:32] <Marfi> eqisow1: ty
[20:32] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Like, go a darkened often?
[20:32] <ruiserra> firewire camera problem console -> ""icvRetrieveFrame convert RGB to BGR""
[20:32] <ActionParsnip1> Unggnu: then you need a supported chip. http://efficientpc.co.uk/accessories/wireless/wg311t/  thats mine and it works out of the box since gutsy
[20:32] <neeteex> mbrigdan: yes it does freeze, but not only firefox : it might be more general
[20:33] <neeteex> mbrigdan: not realy darkened, only taking a while to react to commands (click, keyboard...)
[20:34] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Does htop/whatever report that firefox is using 100/99/etc CPU, or does it just report maxed cpu usage?
[20:34] <ludri> Hi, is it possible to save bootable usb stick contents into file (iso or similar), and later burn that back?
[20:34] <vixus> Ok, I'm probably missing a linux-restricted-modules package matching the current kernel...
[20:35] <neeteex> mbrigdan: it says cpu goes from 1 to 90%, so it often overcome with other apps
[20:35] <ganymede> hello, does the ubuntu 8.10 livecd have enough tools to act as a rescue disk for a windows machine that won't boot for a "disk read error"? (e.g. does it have ssh server, fdisk, smartctl, ability to mount ntfs, and ability to boot into a bash shell rather than a full blown X session?)
[20:35] <xnmrph> Hi. I have a problem with an external USB hard disk that is formatted for FAT32. When I rsync to it, I seem to get a duplication problem with lower/upper case filenames. I've read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-137159.html but I wonder if there is a way to prevent this for any USB device that is automounted that happens to be formatted for FAT32?
[20:35] <neeteex> mbrigdan: 96% on last peak !
[20:36] <HammerHead66> dirty: were u able to change it in ur client?
[20:36] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Ok, next time firefox peaks in its usage, run strace -pXXX > straceout.log (Replace XXX with the pid of firefox)
[20:37] <mbrigdan> neeteex: Then, look around in that log file to see if anything obvious is happening.
[20:37] <mbrigdan> neeteex: One other thing: Do you have beagle installed?
[20:38] <neeteex> mbrigdan: I don't know, never heard of beagle
[20:38] <Don_Miguel> HammerHead66, I think dirty left us ...
[20:38] <HammerHead66> i think so too
[20:39] <mbrigdan> neeteex: try sudo apt-get remove beagle  Beagle often caused problems with high CPU usage for me\
[20:39] <HammerHead66> he /she just might need to kool off
[20:39] <mbrigdan> neeteex: I have to leave now, but keep asking around, the community is very helpful
[20:40] <hugodor> anyone know how to find CONFIG_NETDEVICES_MULTIQUEUE in the kernel config?  I can't find it
[20:42] <hugodor> anyone know how to find CONFIG_NETDEVICES_MULTIQUEUE in the kernel config?  I can't find it
[20:42] <Flannel> !repeat | hugodor
[20:44] <Kitkat> guys, since the last couple of days my ubutnu Dell XPS laptop frequently restarting. It doesnt crash or anything... just restarts. Any idea what could be the problem? This doesnt seem to happen on windows. I am not looking for theories, but how do I begin diagonisng this problem?
[20:44] <Nasso> does anyone know if ubuntu has support for more than 2 computerscreens?
[20:44] <xB4s1Cx> it does
[20:44] <elfranger> if a SD card will be mounted as RO in uuntu, will I maybe be able to access it through Wine?
[20:45] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, how? with multiple graphicscards?
[20:45] <eqisow1> Kitkat /var/log is always a good place to start
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Kitkat:  pre intalled Ubuntu Dell yeah?  it's still under warranty?
[20:45] <xB4s1Cx> yes, and the right drivers
[20:45] <Kitkat> Not a preinstall Dell
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Kitkat: the computer shoudn't  just restart
[20:45] <Kitkat> eqiso1, what do I look at?
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Kitkat: sounds like a hardware issue
[20:45] <Kitkat> I looked at the kernel log, but not sure what I should be looking at.
[20:46] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, okay. the official nvidia or ati drivers, i guess?
[20:46] <xB4s1Cx> yes
[20:46] <xB4s1Cx> goodluck
[20:46] <eqisow1> Kitkat: daemon.log, dmesg, kern.log, and syslog are good places to start. but seb is right, could be hardware
[20:46] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, goodluck? is it hard to get it working?
[20:46] <Kitkat> eqisow: What should I look at ?
[20:47] <eqisow1> kitkat: see above, and pastebin them if you like
[20:47] <danzat> Can anyone help me with pulseaudio, I think it hates me
[20:48] <xB4s1Cx> Nasso, yeah, driver installation is not easy on linux
[20:48] <militant> hi guys.  i'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick.  i used unetbootin to make the stick from the 8.10 desktop iso, no errors reported.  now when i try to boot from the stick to install, it gets past the splash screen then sits on a black screen forever
[20:48] <josh-l> hey all, what package do i install for an mpeg-4 encoder?
[20:48] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, installing the standard nvidia drivers is automatic in ubuntu?
[20:49] <militant> i tried an OEM install and the help option too, both dumped me to busybox saying it gave up waiting for root device?
[20:49] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, just check the crossbox in restricted drivers?
[20:49] <eqisow1> josh-l: mencoder, ffmpeg, mplayer. take your pick. are you looking for a front-end app?
[20:49] <xB4s1Cx> Nasso, but it may not be the newest
[20:49] <Nasso> xB4s1Cx, do i need the newest?
[20:49] <josh-l> eqisow1: no backend
[20:49] <xB4s1Cx> Nasso, yeah, they work the best
[20:49] <gkey> I just lost my NM-APPLET from the panel (it's still working, but not visible). How do I get it back?
[20:50] <elfranger> whats the command to see what is happening when I insert my SD card?
[20:50] <eqisow1> Nasso: use the restricted drivere checkbox, installing the driveres from nvidia is not recomended. It will break when your kernel updates
[20:50] <maddwesty> why cant i install my raedon driver when it says this driver is not activated
[20:50] <Nasso> eqisow1, ok. thanks
[20:50] <eqisow1> josh-l: then mencoder should work fine
[20:51] <Nasso> can i configura 4 monitors on 2 graficscards with the nvidia control panel or do i need to hack xorg.conf ?
[20:51] <josh-l> thanks
[20:51] <eqisow1> Nasso: It *should* autocifngiure when you restart X, but if it doesn't we can tackle it
[20:52] <Nasso> eqisow1, i havnt bought the gfx-cards yet :)
[20:52] <cr4z3d> hey how can i add ext4 support to 8.04? i have a SD card using it
[20:52] <Nasso> is nvidia or ati recommended for multiple screens? what drivers are best and most stable for this?
[20:52] <eqisow1> Nasso: gotcha. well it *shouldn't* require X hacking.. no promises though. I've never done it with 4, only 2
[20:52] <danzat> I want to enable ASLA again, but I can't seem to be able to do it
[20:52] <HammerHead66> danzat: has someone helped you yet?
[20:53] <maddwesty> how do i get my ati/amd proprietary card to activate?
[20:53] <neeteex> mbrigdan: sorry for disconnection : my pc crushed while under strace command (did'nt find how to stop it !)
[20:53] <fosco__> Nasso: is not easy, you'd better use a jaunty liveCD to access your SD card
[20:53] <ActionParsnip1> Nasso: both are fine, users will somply advise what they prefer, there is no best. there is no best ANYTHING in life
[20:53] <eqisow1> Nasso: AMD is working hard on getting ATI drivers up to par, but it's a work in progress, so for now probably nvidia unless you're getting a pair of slightly older cards
[20:53] <fosco__> !ati | maddwesty
[20:53] <eqisow1> Action: there are very real driver differences, unfortunately
[20:53] <HammerHead66> danzat: /system/prefs'/sound and change there
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: inded but one is not better than the other
[20:54] <zelda_> Does anyone know if the HVR-1800 has full linux support?
[20:54] <maddwesty> thanks you
[20:54] <timbooka> how do i make AWN run on startup?????
[20:54] <fosco__> Nasso: sorry, that was not for you
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> !startup
[20:54] <cr4z3d> timbooka: check your sessions settings
[20:54] <eqisow1> ActionParsnip1: try getting 3D acceleration on my ATU card then say that
[20:54] <fosco__> cr4z3d:  is not easy, you'd better use a jaunty liveCD to access your SD card
[20:54] <arp13> timbooka, system-pref-sessions add it there
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: thats one ati card out of the whole range
[20:54] <arp13> timbooka, if you're at gnome env-nt
[20:54] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: some ati cards are fine
[20:54] <Nasso> does sli or crossfire work in linux?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: hence me saying neither is better
[20:55] <cr4z3d> fosco__: ah.. sucks. but thank you i'll have to get that working
[20:55] <ActionParsnip1> Nasso: sli is as far as i know
[20:55] <Nasso> ActionParsnip1, not crossfire?
[20:55] <Knight`> I wanted to knowdoes formating the hard drive have an account on its life span?
[20:55] <Knight`> is there a such thing as "formatting it too much"
[20:55] <eqisow1> Action: their drivers are broken on all 64 bit systems without lib32 (done arguing now, we're way offtopic :p)
[20:55] <ActionParsnip1> Nasso: i dont know, i dont use ati cards on principal
[20:56] <arp13> ActionParsnip1, me too, their drivers are too bad :-(
[20:56] <eqisow1> Nasso: SLI and crossfire both work
[20:56] <Knight`> I wanted to know does formating the hard drive have an account on its life span?*
[20:56] <eqisow1> KnightL no
[20:56] <arp13> Knight`, nope
[20:56] <ActionParsnip1> eqisow1: lil bit, there is still no best, best is an opinion of a product on own requirements. I find the word best really immature
[20:56] <unko> HammerHead66, hey i found out what the problem was hahah!Q!
[20:56]  * arp13 is using x3100 now and pretty happy :D
[20:57] <HammerHead66> unko: what was it?
[20:57] <pvtpete> hi there
[20:57] <gkey> bump: I just lost my network manager APPLET from the panel (it's still working, but not visible). How do I get it back?
[20:57] <pvtpete> my fcsk file has been wiped
[20:57] <pvtpete> what should a normal one look like ?
[20:57] <pvtpete> please
[20:58] <arp13> gkey, ee click on panel -> add -> networking bla bla
[20:58] <HammerHead66> unko: what was it?
[20:58] <unko> HammerHead66, your gonna laugh haha... i have a usb hub and it's like glued uner my desk..and i use virtual box... so i pluged in a usb stick too it and i forgot to take it out and by default my computer boots from usb devs than the main hdd. so basicaly i forgot i had it in!
[20:58] <HammerHead66> lmao
[20:59] <gkey> arp13 - that seems to bring up a different applet
[20:59] <demon> i have problems with my 8.10 it cant find my webcam
[20:59] <snooser> Hi there. I installed ubuntu by using wubi. My wireless network works, detects my network but i cant access the internet. any help?
[20:59] <HammerHead66> well you found it
[20:59] <unko> yeps
[20:59] <unko> thanks for trying to help though haha
[20:59] <ryanakca> Why does my wirless often bog down to nothing / link quality drop down to 0? I'me no more than 15ft away from the router... ath5k
[20:59] <arp13> gkey, hmm I think there is only one applet for networking, the default one
[20:59] <HammerHead66> np
[21:00] <ActionParsnip1> ryanakca: do you have the latest driver and full updates
[21:01] <gkey> arp14 - that's what i thought. But the one listed on the applet list is Network-monitor, not networkmanager-applet or nm-applet
[21:01] <user___> hugodor: which architecture are you trying to compile for?
[21:01] <snooser> Hi there. I installed ubuntu by using wubi. My wireless network works, detects my network but i cant access the internet. any help?
[21:01] <lagann_> gkey, use ALT+F2 and type: nm-applet --sm-disable
[21:02] <arp13> gkey, aaa, I see. it's stoped. do sudo /etc/init.d/netwo ..bla-bla restart
[21:02] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: can you ping sites by name as well as ip
[21:02] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: you may be getting dns failure
[21:02] <arp13> gkey, complete netw... with tabs, of course
[21:03] <arp13> *stopped
[21:03] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: then you need to ad d some public ips as dns in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:03] <snooser> ActionParsnip1, i've tryed to ping google.com and i couldnt
[21:03] <demon> i have problems with my 8.10 it cant find my webcam
[21:03] <snooser> ActionParsnip1 can you help me with that?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[21:03] <snooser> ActionParsnip1 i'm not at my linux system.
[21:04] <snooser> ActionParsnip1 i cant ping anything besides my own network
[21:04] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: if you can ping the ip but not name, dns is failing
[21:04] <floryn90> hello
[21:04] <ActionParsnip1> snooser: then i would reboot your router
[21:04] <snooser> ActionParsnip1 no, not a router problem.
[21:04] <anabolix> anyone know why i cant detect my bluetooth headphones? i used "hcitool scan" and it doesnt appear. im using sony bluetooth headset that came with my sony mp4 player, which has no problems pairing with the headset
[21:05] <gkey> arp13 - tx - lifesaver!
[21:05] <militant> anyone have a theory on why the ubuntu installer fails at 'waiting for root device' ... i've installed 8.10 on this machine just a few days ago and it was fine.
[21:05] <arp13> gkey, np :D
[21:05] <eqisow1> militant: test your hard drive? does windows work fine from it, if installed?
[21:06] <rockchickz> Q: is there a ubuntu version which runs on 192mb ram?
[21:06] <user___> hugodor: which architecture are you trying to compile for?
[21:06] <militant> eqisow1 it was running and rebooting thru ubuntu just fine a few hours ago.  nothing's been changed except i am trying to install fresh (really hosed some things)
[21:06] <tauren> is there a way to safely shut down if I just have a blank desktop screen?  something like ctrl-alt-del task manager in windows?
[21:06] <HammerHead66> 32bit
[21:06] <snooser> Hi there. I installed ubuntu by using wubi. My wireless network works, detects my network but i cant access the internet. any help?
[21:06] <HammerHead66> rockchickz: 32 bit ubuntu does
[21:07] <eqisow1> militant: if you didn't format, or perhaps didn't re-install grub, your fstab could be messed up
[21:07] <rockchickz> HammerHead66: ah, i tried using the wubi and it failed on launch stating 256mb needed. is that just for the win32 installer?
[21:07] <militant> eqisow1   there shouldn't be an fstab.  i'm trying to run a clean install from a usb stick
[21:07] <brous> snooser-> post your  ifconfig; iwconfig; sudo lshw -C network; route -n; cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:07] <Flannel> tauren: Well, if you can get to a TTY (ctrl-alt-f1) you can shut down there (sudo shutdown now)
[21:07] <floryn90> !hello
[21:07] <HammerHead66> rockchickz: i am unsure
[21:08] <eqisow1> militant: ahh, I see. and you've been able to run from USB before?
[21:08] <tauren> Flannel: thanks!  i think that will work
[21:08] <Flannel> tauren: If you can't do that, you can use reisub (well, that'll reboot, to turn off, reisuo)
[21:08] <Flannel> !reisub | tauren
[21:08] <mapreduce> Hello.  I have Ubuntu installing in a virtualbox, and "Select and install software" seems to have frozen at 18%.
[21:08] <tauren> Flannel:  Use reisub?  what's that?
[21:08] <snooser> brous, thanks. gonna try that
[21:08] <mapreduce> Is there a way of seeing whether it really has frozen?  It did the same at 6% for a while, but this is a lot longer.
[21:08] <militant> eqisow1   yes the original install was from usb stick.  since then the stick has had its partition rebuilt and the contents formatted (vfat) and unetbootin used to make an install stick from a fresh copy of the 8.10 desktop iso
[21:09] <Flannel> tauren: Read the thing ubottu sent you
[21:09] <tauren> Flannel:  ah, just saw it.  thanks.  And thanks ubottu!
[21:09] <user___> mapreduce: how long did you have to wait for the system to continue at 6%
[21:10] <mapreduce> About 10 minutes I think.
[21:10] <mapreduce> And it's been at 18% for the best part of an hour now.
[21:10] <mapreduce> If I abort and just reboot, will I have something usable installed to disk?
[21:10] <arussel> I am on amd64. Is there a package that would install sun 32 bits, including the tools.jar in lib (ie, a full jdk and not just a jre) ?
[21:11] <user___> mapreduce: ok, try switching to a console (no, nothing usable..)
[21:11] <M4d3L> I have a char encoding problem. all file I try to open in text editor writed on windows before and content accent like é
[21:11] <mapreduce> user___: Yes, I've already done that, via Alt-F2.
[21:11] <user___> mapreduce: a console inside the guest
[21:11] <M4d3L> à etc... are ������
[21:11] <user___> mapreduce: that could be the console of your host
[21:11] <Lvl21nerd> hey i have a quick question
[21:11] <mapreduce> I've had a look what commands are there but not noticed anything I can do from there.
[21:12] <mapreduce> top isn't present, for example.
[21:12] <eqisow1> militant: the persistent USB install is getting outside my area of experience, I'm afraid. hopefully somebody else can help you here
[21:12] <ryanakca> ActionParsnip1: Yes, it's built into the kernel. (Well, as a module)
[21:12] <Lvl21nerd> i use ubuntu and just recently installed xfce and when i use xfce, my other two hard drives are not detected though they are in vanilla ubuntu
[21:12] <militant> i was able to do the net install just fine, btw, but it was stalling out on retrieving packages
[21:12] <user___> mapreduce: there must be some sort of log file: ls -lt lists newest files on top
[21:12] <militant> somehow the livecd installer dies on waiting for root device.  weird
[21:12] <mapreduce> user___: As the host is Vista, it isn't going to have consoles.  Or perhaps I misunderstood you.
[21:13] <Lvl21nerd> how can i remedy that
[21:13] <user___> mapreduce: i meant console in the guest. the gui or text installer is occupying just one console. the others *could* be active
[21:13] <Flannel> Lvl21nerd: you'll have to manually mount them
[21:13] <Cheery> hi, has anyone been trying chromium/chrome lately?
[21:14] <Lvl21nerd> how do i do that?
[21:14] <mapreduce> user___: alt-f2 shows another console, which I can activate.  Do you mean that?
[21:14] <Flannel> !fstab | Lvl21nerd
[21:14] <mapreduce> same for alt-f3 etc.
[21:14] <FrozenFire[work]> Hello everyone. Is there a way to enable restricted hardware drivers from the command-line? The Hardware Drivers GUI applet is hanging at the download dialogue.
[21:14] <Lvl21nerd> thank you
[21:14] <cipherZen> Cheery: I have, fast as hell, just as unstable
[21:14] <mapreduce>  /var/log/syslog says "Some program may be trying to access hardware directly" but that could be from a while ago.
[21:15] <monkey_d_luffy> I'm trying to check/test a bunch of 7z files, but I don't understand the manual.  It supposedely allows reading a list of filenames from a file, but I don't understand... does anyone with 7zip installed knows how to do it?
[21:15] <crdlb> FrozenFire[work]: there is no cli-only frontend for jockey, but depending on the driver, you can do it manually
[21:15] <Cheery> anyone proposed ubuntu to move their interest from firefox to chromium?
[21:15] <mapreduce> Ah, no, it's periodic, and still happens.
[21:15] <HammerHead66> FrozenFire[work]: yes
[21:15] <user___> mapreduce: yes, activate and check all consoles. maybe one is "scolling" whats being done (debian has it that way)
[21:15] <HammerHead66> save drive to Desktop
[21:15] <Cheery> cipherZen: yeah, and it's damn incredible, firefox can never provide that same experience
[21:16] <HammerHead66> drivers*
[21:16] <Cheery> after it's complete, it'll be the best browser for linux
[21:16] <HammerHead66> FrozenFire[work]: then open terminal
[21:16] <FrozenFire[work]> HammerHead66: Yeah, I thought of that, but I'd rather use the one from the Ubuntu repository
[21:16] <mapreduce> user___: Ok, Alt-f4 shows a running log; the last thing was "setting up dash", followed by lots of copies of the above message.
[21:16] <HammerHead66> FrozenFire[work]: cd Desktop
[21:16] <cipherZen> true that. they really do need to work out some of the bugs though, their bug reporting site even makes it crash on my box :P
[21:16] <FrozenFire[work]> This system is going to be used by someone technically illiterate, so it needs to automatically update itself.
[21:16] <HammerHead66> FrozenFire[work]: dir
[21:17] <mapreduce> Each preceded by Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0
[21:17] <FrozenFire[work]> HammerHead66: Yes, I know all of that. Thanks anyways.
[21:17] <HammerHead66> FrozenFire[work]: ok
[21:17] <shane> ff
[21:17] <shane> sorry
[21:18] <mapreduce> I'll give up, reboot and install it again, but with nothing about bare minimum software.
[21:18] <Gnea> Cheery: is it possible to get chrome for linux yet?
[21:18] <user___> mapreduce: hmm i'd put it down for later reference and restart the install
[21:18] <Cheery> Gnea: not really, I've tried one very early alpha release
[21:18] <mapreduce> user___: Ok, thanks.
[21:18] <Cheery> but it'll be available
[21:18] <user___> mapreduce: good luck
[21:18] <Cheery> and it's open source (some sort of)
[21:18] <Gnea> Cheery: yeah, it seems more windows-based. lame.
[21:19] <eqisow1> Gnea: It's released as Chromium in Linux, no branding atm iirc. I think they make Ubuntu packages, though
[21:19] <Cheery> you can try it too, but I think it's not usable yet
[21:20] <HammerHead66> Gnea: go to add/remove programs in search put chrome. make sure the show is on All available apps
[21:20] <eqisow1> Gnea: I hear it works OK in Wine too, but I haven't tried it
[21:20] <Cheery> much of UI is not working yet, there's no tabs and it tends to crash on unimplemented routines
[21:20] <_dbd_l12> Gnea: this is the closest you get atm (wine-based) i think: http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/
[21:20] <cipherZen> eqisow1: it was working in wine, sort of, but it broke with the latest update to wine
[21:20] <sebsebseb> Gnea: you can run a native development version of what will become Chrome for Linux
[21:20] <Cheery> but damn it's still awesome
[21:21] <Cheery> and I think shuttleworth should push money on it instead of firefox
[21:21] <snooser> hello there again. still with the same problem
[21:21] <cipherZen> Gnea: word of warning about the dev version for linux, you can use it, but its really unstable
[21:21] <magnetron> Cheery→ excuse me, who is pushing money on firefox?
[21:21] <eqisow1> what's up, snooser?
[21:21] <Gnea> hrm
[21:21] <snooser> eqisow1, i cant access my wireless network, but i have no internet
[21:21] <Cheery> magnetron: development efforts
[21:22] <eqisow1> offtopic: I want a decent KDE browser :/
[21:22] <Cheery> magnetron: ubuntu supports firefox right now
[21:22] <sebsebseb> _dbd_l12: running WIndows browsers in Wine without changing their  user agent string to mention Linux, will then be contributing to WIndows browser market  share, and that's not a good thing
[21:22] <sebsebseb> eqisow1: Konqueror
[21:23] <magnetron> Cheery→ canonical supports all the software in ubuntu, for a fee. the customers are pushing money on canonical, none of this ever reaches mozilla foundation
[21:23] <duffy> is FF so bad you have to use WINE and a windows browser?
[21:23] <militant> see.  that is so odd.  the livecd version of the usb stick installer hangs on waiting for root device.  but the netinstall version goes thru perfect
[21:23] <eqisow1> sebsebseb: I wish. mostly render problems for me, though, the interface is decent
[21:23] <Gnea> I highly doubt that chrome is going to break any real new ground. firefox was supposed to have done that, and yet it still runs slow-as-snot on a 1.7ghz/512Mb system
[21:23] <Hfuy> Where does ubuntu keep its fonts?
[21:23] <snooser> eqisow1, any help?
[21:23] <eqisow1> snooser: You're in Wubi, right? What have you tried?
[21:23] <duffy> I love FF, its fast, its addons enhance it like no other, and as such, no other comes close
[21:24] <infiter789> anyone knows a book for shell and shell scripting?
[21:24] <sebsebseb> duffy: well how about  Seamonkey?
[21:24] <magnetron> infiter789→ there's a book on wikibooks. try it
[21:24] <duffy> what about it..  It aint broke so no need to fix it
[21:24] <snooser> eqisow1 yes, i used wubi.
[21:24] <Cheery> Gnea: firefox broke real new ground, or if you noticed it?
[21:24] <infiter789> magnetron: wikibooks'
[21:24] <Cheery> it has 27% market share
[21:24] <_dbd_l12> Hfuy: ~/.fonts and /usr/share/fonts iirc
[21:24] <magnetron> infiter789→ wikibooks.
[21:25] <Cheery> and it's an alternative for IE8&crappies
[21:25] <sebsebseb> duffy: you can do add ons for Seamonkey etc.    and I hope you know about the link between Seamonkey and Firefox
[21:25] <infiter789> magnetron: ok, thanks, I will search for it
[21:25] <Gnea> duffy: i had to ditch gnome for E17 in order to get FF to gain any semblence of rational running... even still, it needs to be restarded now and then
[21:25] <spamjam> does anybody know how to get rid of the shadow underneath the top panel in gnome?
[21:25] <MexTuX> Does anybody know what does mean the "%U" at the end of the command in the main menu entries??
[21:25] <Cheery> firefox's goals weren't speed or performance :)
[21:25] <Gnea> Cheery: of course it did, I'm just saying that I'm not expecting a whole lot out of chrome
[21:25] <Cheery> or convenience
[21:25] <Cheery> chrome provides those
[21:25] <eqisow1> Cheery: it was, originally. it was supposed to be the lean and mean rebirth of mozilla
[21:26] <duffy> ive customised it a little tho, removed nav bar, put icons and url/search bars next to the File/Edit etc menus, so save real estate..  and used freesans for fonts.. much better than defaults
[21:26] <Cheery> Gnea: try it on windows sometime near and see it yourself
[21:26] <Cheery> try run javascript heavy web-apps on it
[21:26] <Gnea> Cheery: I will
[21:26] <sebsebseb> eqisow1: rebirth????   Mozilla Suite with some good marketting could have hit off nicely,  but nope that died and Firefox and Thunderbird live on, and those that liked the Mozilla Suite,  can have Seamonkey
[21:27] <duffy> i dont see why people have a problem , i dont..
[21:27] <marctw> i have install ubuntu,but the wireless doesn't work
[21:27] <marctw> what can I do?
[21:27] <duffy> it dont crash, its not slow..
[21:27] <kklimonda> any pulseaudio master present? ;)
[21:27] <The_Drizzle> \join #lunar
[21:27] <sebsebseb> marctw: damn wireless issues, very common,  because of stupid wireless manufactures that do not suppourt  Desktop Linux yet
[21:27] <sebsebseb> !wireless
[21:28] <magnetron> just ask your questions to the channel please kklimonda
[21:28] <carl_> sighhhhhhhh
[21:28] <sebsebseb> marctw: you need to be specific about what device you have and all that, or people can't really help you
[21:28] <Gnea> !pulseaudio
[21:28] <slide> I have windows, ubuntu and OSX installed and grub bootloader, somehow it got set to automatically boot into the last booted OS w/out any prompt. I can't for some reason boot into the LiveCD to mount the ubuntu disk and fix the grub settings, how can I boot into windows (instead of osx as its currently set)
[21:29] <slide> or even boot into ubuntu
[21:29] <slide> it just auto boots into OSX (which is giving me problems booting right now)
[21:29] <daftykins> press escape when it does the seconds timeout
[21:29] <daftykins> and manually choose another
[21:29] <slide> daftykins, there is no seconds timeout
[21:30] <daftykins> oh dear.
[21:30] <jrib> slide: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst from os x
[21:30] <_dbd_l12> slide: boot off a live disc (ubuntu, knoppix, any will do) or usb and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:30] <slide> jrib, i cant get into osx
[21:30] <slide> _dbd_l12, the livecd wont boot
[21:30] <jrib> slide: what are you in?
[21:30] <slide> lol
[21:30] <slide> im on my laptop
[21:30] <kristian_> neither brasero/k3b will burn/verify correctly for me! can someone suggest some other program? i liked linux until now. :-P
[21:30] <jrib> slide: no working OS?
[21:30] <slide> windows and linux work, but i cant boot into them
[21:30] <daftykins> kristian_, just don't verify :P
[21:31] <jrib> slide: either get it to boot from the cd or remove the hard drive and mount it on another pc
[21:31] <trinidadflores> i have a question
[21:31] <slide> ok
[21:31] <datta> how do i convert .dat file in linux?
[21:31] <eqisow1> kristian: what, exactly, is the problem? most burning apps use the sam ebackend, so switching isn't likely to help
[21:31] <jrib> slide: or fix os x...
[21:31] <kristian_> daftykins : how come no linux dvd burner program can properly verify! it's the simplest task ever. :-P
[21:31] <datta> it is a riff audio file
[21:31] <kklimonda> Gnea: it doesn't really help me - i still can't get my microphone to work ;)
[21:31] <daftykins> kristian_, people probably use MD5'ing etc instead
[21:32] <Gnea> kklimonda: why didn't you say that your microphone was the problem in the first place? ;)
[21:32] <kklimonda> Gnea: well.. because it's pulseaudio's fault ;)
[21:32] <_dbd_l12> datta: maybe sox can do that for you
[21:32] <kklimonda> i've fixed it once already..
[21:32] <Brodey> I'm having trouble connecting with my wireless router :|
[21:32] <kklimonda> Gnea: but i had to sacrifice black goat..
[21:33] <trinidadflores> i know that ther eare drivers for windows so that you can access your ext3 partition i have tried fs-driver and diskinternals linux reader and they dont work with my version of windows (vista business) help
[21:33] <datta> i do not get it how do u actually convert it with that
[21:33] <datta> can u covert it with the terminal
[21:34] <carl_> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[21:34] <user___> trinidadflores: please also ask in #windows
[21:34] <Gnea> kklimonda: well, that's not good enough. you need to cut the crap and get straight down to it in order to get any help around here. :) is your mic turned on in the alsamixer?
[21:34] <_dbd_l12> datta: yes, sox is a command line tool (you need to install it first: sudo apt-get install sox)
[21:34] <Stepan1> Can anyone guide me though setting up samba so Windows can print to Ubuntu printer.  Computers are not on the same network.  None of the wiki's and howtos are helping.
[21:35] <user___> !samba > Stepan1
[21:35] <Axis> Hello
[21:35] <kristian_> eqisow1 : from scratch... i was going to burn a data dvd today, so i tried out the default burner in ubuntu, brasero. started burning, but when it was done burning, it ejected the tray and verifying failed. later i learnt that it tried to eject tray, then mount it again, to get ride of cache. since im on a laptop, i dont have a motorized tray, so it cant be called back software wise. thats why it failed. so i try pushing the tray in manual
[21:35] <trinidadflores> They dont know shit in that channel thats why i am asking in this one
[21:35] <Axis> Anyone fairly knowledgable about AWN?
[21:35] <kristian_> daftykins : yes, but any dvd burner should be able to verify, thats my point. :-/
[21:36] <HammerHead66> kristian_: i posted how to fix this problem on that bug ticket
[21:36] <sebsebseb> Axis: no and Cairo dock is meant to be better
[21:36] <Gnea> trinidadflores: please watch your language. also, we only support ubuntu in here, so if it's not ubuntu, we don't do it. you might find better help in #linux or #windows
[21:36] <Axis> Are you suggesting that I use Cairo instead?
[21:37] <kristian_> HammerHead66: can you please post a link again. :-) anyways ive tried many things so far. :-/ im about to give up! :-O
[21:37] <Stepan1> user___: As I said, none of those links help me.  Most important factor, these printers are not connected to the same connection/network/router
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Axis: yes, but I haven't used it myself yet
[21:37] <trinidadflores> i am in both and there is no one talking in the #windows i have been in there all day!!
[21:37] <Axis> Haha, so how can you suggest something you have never used? :P
[21:37] <sebsebseb> trinidadflores: Windows is for  idiots!
[21:37] <wrektjet> hey... im tryiong to set up a static IP using the network manager. the settings r correct, i believe, but the "OK" button never becomes active, allowing me to save the new connection. any ideas?
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Axis: ,because I have read about it, plus had contact with people that have used it
[21:38] <shane> hey yall whats the command to see what wireless drivers are in use
[21:38] <trinidadflores> the only reason why i still have windows is because of my drafting software
[21:38] <trinidadflores> need the 3d rendering
[21:38] <sebsebseb> trinidadflores: oh
[21:38] <wrektjet> to clarify: a wired conex; under the IPv$ settings, Manaul
[21:38] <Axis> Ah, I fixed my problem anyways, but I will still look into Cairo
[21:38] <sebsebseb> trinidadflores: yeah for 2D stuff a vm
[21:39] <kklimonda> Gnea: well, mic works now but i get horrible quality in empathy ;)
[21:39] <carl_> i need help g4 12 inch power book   installed  ubuntu intrepid  cpu runs at 100% all the time memory stays  at  277 out of 754  how do i fix
[21:39] <HammerHead66>  kristian_:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/72609
[21:39] <user___> Stepan1: i feel you need to explore more and post a concrete error message, people here can help you better then
[21:39] <sebsebseb> Axis: ok sure, Linux Distros are about choice, unlike Windows,  these things are also not  meant to be seen as some free as in price version of Windows.   or a free  as in price of OS X.
[21:40] <sebsebseb> Axis: this stuff is about free as in freedom, know what I mean?
[21:40] <wrektjet> freeeeeeeeeeeedom.
[21:40] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[21:40] <Axis> sebsebseb: I very much know what you mean
[21:40] <daas> Check out this linux girl :) : http://www.SweetSarah.fr/?id=110122
[21:40] <wrektjet> but seriously, any info on making static ip
[21:40] <HammerHead66> kristian_: make sure you bookmark it ok
[21:40] <bolt> trying to boot from the install cd on a pentium 4 with a radeon 9800 graphics card, both in safe graphics mode and normal install and the livecd mode, i get the X mouse pointer on a black screen, the keyboard lights start blinking and nothing more happens. the mouse can't be moved and the keyboard doesn't work after this point. what's up with that?
[21:40] <Axis> I know plenty about free software and GNU and what not
[21:40] <sebsebseb> Axis: well you didn't seem newbie, but a lof the newbies that come here have no idea
[21:41] <Axis> I understand :)
[21:41] <carl_> is newbie that just asked question
[21:41] <sebsebseb> carl_: did you just call me a newbie?  :D
[21:41] <Axis> I've been using ubuntu since 6.04 so I know a little about linux. Not nearly as much as I would like to however.
[21:41] <carl_> no  i am newbie
[21:42] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : yes, i tried that. and then it would burn and verify without ejecting disc. it worked for the first disc i was going to burn, but then when i tried 2,3,4,5 then it failed at verifying and k3b actually crashed. :-/
[21:42] <carl_> and i asked a question
[21:42] <Surlent777> Hopefully, a simple question: I have a desktop, and I have a laptop. Both are hooked into a router. How do I get them properly networked (ie able to be viewed in Nautilus/Konqueror)? The desktop is 810, the laptop 8.04
[21:42] <slide> Ok, so I've got my harddrive connected to my laptop via usb, how can I reinstall grub onto it?
[21:42] <sebsebseb> Axis: I been with Ubuntu since the second release in 2005, with Fedora Core 2 and 4 in 2004.   So I know stuff, but  still quite a bit I don't know yet.
[21:42] <Surlent777> 8.10*
[21:42] <carl_> be back dog wants to potty
[21:42] <jrib> slide: you don't need to reinstall it, just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:43] <sebsebseb> !scp |  Surlent777
[21:43] <HammerHead66> kristian_:  that's because it doesn't clear out the cashe. you need to only do one at a time.
[21:43] <Axis> Surlent777: Did you enable sharing in the folder properties?
[21:43] <slide> jrib, actually, i think i may need to somehow osx installed its boot manager again? im not sure how
[21:43] <Surlent777> Axis: Yes, I made this work with my laptop and Windows at one point, with a cross-over cable
[21:44] <linuxonmac> slide: what are you trying to do?
[21:44] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : yes, i did one, then i closed k3b, and reopened it. wont that work?
[21:44] <Axis> Surlent777: What cables do you have running to your router now? Staight-through right?
[21:44] <Surlent777> sebsebseb: I am actually trying to set up ssh as we speak, and failing
[21:44] <HammerHead66>  kristian_:  but you know that's ok because the software is setup to not clear it. they have made sure there are no problems in doing so.
[21:44] <sebsebseb> !ssh |  Surlent777
[21:44] <slide> linuxonmac, grub got replaced by osx bootloader on my desktop and the osx install is messed up. I have the HD mounted onto my laptop
[21:45] <linuxonmac> slide: If your using a mac you want to use rEFIt
[21:45] <slide> i need to get grub reinstalled onto it
[21:45] <slide> im in ubuntu right now
[21:45] <slide> on my laptop
[21:45] <sebsebseb> !grub |  slide
[21:45] <Surlent777> Axis: It goes Desktop > router > modem, and the laptop is using a wireless card to get to the router
[21:45] <HammerHead66> kristian_:it should have
[21:45] <linuxonmac> slide: install grud to the mbr of your drive
[21:45] <linuxonmac> grub*
[21:45] <sebsebseb> !mac
[21:45] <Axis> slide: Its easiest if you just pop the live CD in the machine you need to fix the grub with. And then google GRUB commands to find out how to rebuild it
[21:45] <Surlent777> sebsebseb: I'm actually viewing that page, and installed open-ssh on both systems
[21:45] <kristian_> HammerHead66 : ok, hmmm, will have to try tommorow. time for bed, going to work early tommorow. see you around, hopefully tommorow. :-P
[21:46] <slide> Axis, the live cd wont boot, it keeps trying to mount ntfs partition and fails, constantly
[21:46] <HammerHead66> kristian_: ok, sweet dreams and don't give up we will get it working
[21:46] <Surlent777> axis: both computers are online, and a XBox 360 is also hooked up and running fine
[21:46] <beejay7777> hi
[21:46] <alevine> I removed a hard disk and changed my other one to master and now it says the partition is invalid, anyone know what to do?
[21:46] <antigoal> when is GTA4 being released for Ubuntu?
[21:46] <debianguy> surlent777 can you ssh localhost ?
[21:47] <Axis> slide: That dosen't make any sense. Regardless the live CD should boot. Sounds like possibly a hardware problem. Unless your BIOS settings are incorrect.
[21:47] <sebsebseb> antigoal: probably never
[21:47] <asmips> i'm trying to print a chart of unicode mathematical operators in openoffice spreadsheet; however some characters do not print at all. (i'm using hardy 8.04 and cups)
[21:47] <Surlent777> debianguy: Yes, I tried that, and it works on both systems
[21:47] <erUSUL> antigoal: i do not see this happening anytime soon (if ever)
[21:47] <sebsebseb> antigoal: however there are ways to run Windows games in Ubuntu
[21:47] <antigoal> shoot, i just worned out my PS3 gamepad
[21:47] <debianguy> Surlent777, what are your ips?
[21:47] <slide> Axis, well thats what happens =\
[21:47] <HammerHead66> antigoal: someone needs to port it for linux
[21:47] <linuxonmac> slide: I would try to boot to osx by holding down option button then install rEFIt
[21:47] <debianguy> *internal*
[21:47] <Axis> Surlent777: Sorry my networking experience with ubuntu is minimal, because I have almost never had problems.
[21:47] <asmips> Does anyone know how i can print these unicode characters that are not printing?
[21:47] <Axis> slide: I assume your BIOS settings are correct? Did you double check?
[21:48] <slide> Axis, yes, ive booted into a livecd before
[21:48] <sebsebseb> antigoal: most games companies, won't make for Desktop Linux, unless it has a much bigger market share
[21:48] <|PaperTiger|> Anyone here able to help?
[21:48] <slide> linuxonmac, the osx install os bad, so it wont boot
[21:48] <Surlent777> axis: I should also note that I can't seem to connect with this desktop here normally; I have to "sudo dhclient" every boot, and suspending completely ruins it
[21:48] <slide> is bad
[21:48] <linuxonmac> slide: this is on a mac or hack?
[21:48] <slide> hack
[21:48] <Gnea> kklimonda: have you tried not using pulseaudio for empathy?
[21:48] <linuxonmac> Oh try something like acronis disk suite
[21:49] <linuxonmac> slide: Elilo EFI Grub perhaps
[21:49] <Axis> slide: Hm....but it should work this time. It does not make any sense to me.
[21:49] <sebsebseb> antigoal: Codweavers Crossover Games a commercial version of Wine, is meant to soon have proper Directx10 suppourt
[21:49] <bolt> trying to boot from the install cd on a pentium 4 with a radeon 9800 graphics card, both in safe graphics mode and normal install and the livecd mode, i get the X mouse pointer on a black screen, the keyboard lights start blinking and nothing more happens. the mouse can't be moved and the keyboard doesn't work after this point. what's up with that?
[21:49] <slide> Axis, i know :(
[21:49] <guntbert> !ask | |PaperTiger|
[21:49] <Surlent777> debianguy: I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're needing
[21:49] <Axis> slide: So try and describe the problem again with as many details as possible.
[21:49]  * jyooruje ate amanha
[21:49] <debianguy> surlent777 can you ping between machines
[21:50] <Surlent777> debianguy: one sec, let me try it
[21:50] <|PaperTiger|> Well, Idealy, I need to reinstall the GRUB launcher
[21:50] <asmips>  i'm trying to print a chart of unicode mathematical operators in openoffice spreadsheet; however some characters do not print at all. (i'm using hardy 8.04 and cups). Does anyone know what may cause this and how I can make these unicode characters print?
[21:50] <sebsebseb> !Grub
[21:50] <|PaperTiger|> I'm trying to back up a mixture of files, from ext3 and ntfs (same HDD, different partitions) to another HDD, ntfs.
[21:50] <linuxonmac> slide: can you boot to windows? you can try using chainloader to load osx. I dont understand how is the osx86 partition corupt?
[21:50] <user___> asmips: incomplete font? does exporting to pdf work?
[21:50] <_dbd_l12> bolt: read this (especially the vga boot options part): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:51] <Surlent777> debianguy: I can ping it, I think
[21:51] <|PaperTiger|> Btw, I'm running from LiveCD...
[21:51] <Axis> Surlent777: You think?
[21:51] <slide> I had Windows, Ubuntu and OSX installed, I was trying to upgrade OSX to newest version and didnt realize it would upgrade the bootloader for the first hard drive (windows). The OSX upgrade failed so now when I boot, it tries to boot into osx unsuccessfully. I tried to boot to a livecd but it just keeps trying to mount my ntfs partition and fails and continues to do this never fully loading
[21:51] <Guest86996> im switching back to ubuntu quick question, can the ubuntu installer overwrite a slackware partition?
[21:51] <slide> linuxonmac, chainloader?
[21:51] <sebsebseb> Guest86996: just delete it when your partitining
[21:52] <Surlent777> Axis: I used ifconfig to get the ip, and there were several. I took the one under wlan, and it's allowing me to ping it
[21:52] <Guest86996> sebsebseb thanks
[21:52] <Axis> Guest86996: Never tried it, but at worst you could just use the GPARTED to delete the slackware partition to reinstall with ext3 or whatever you wish.
[21:52] <wat> kk
[21:52] <Paulo39> does someone knows how do i move a colum in openoffice database (identic to acess) for example: i have a table with 5 colums, i wanna put the 5th colum between 1st and 2nd colums
[21:52] <wat> ill just use a custom layout since installing ubuntu is easy as toasting a pop tart
[21:52] <sebsebseb> wat: you might want to prepare for Ext4 also
[21:52] <Axis> Surlent777: Ok, which machine did you get the IP of?
[21:53] <sei> sup?
[21:53] <Axis> The wireless or the wired one?
[21:53] <guntbert> Paulo39: ask in #openoffice.org
[21:53] <linuxonmac> slide: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Chain0
[21:54] <linuxonmac> slide: are you using PC-EFI?
[21:54] <Surlent777> Axis: wireless, in this case
[21:54] <wat> im going to use 8.04 instead of 8.10
[21:54] <Surlent777> Axis: I'm using the wired for this IRC session
[21:54] <dkulchenko> Why does mountlo use UML? Why can't it use FUSE directly?
[21:54] <wat> is anyone still using 7.04?
[21:54] <Guest76828> can some one help!!!!
[21:55] <wat> whats the problem
[21:55] <slide> linuxonmac, i dont know what that is
[21:55] <sebsebseb> wat: a few people I guess, but that one is no longer suppourted
[21:55] <wat> haha
[21:55] <Guest76828> how can i watch tv with out a card?
[21:55] <|PaperTiger|> Buy a TV?
[21:55] <kc8pxy> Guest76828: once  we know your problem, mebbe.
[21:55] <Axis> Surlent777: What did it say before the actual IP adress with the result of ifconfig? I.e. etho1 etho2 wlan0
[21:55] <wat> whats mebbe?
[21:55] <charlyp> with zattoo player
[21:55] <dkulchenko> wat: maybe
[21:55] <Axis> Surlent777: You could have just pinged the loopback which should always work if your nick is working.
[21:55] <wat> oh
[21:55] <wat> ok
[21:55] <Surlent777> Axis: wlan0
[21:56] <linuxonmac> slide: PC EFI is an EFI emulator booter. You can even install vanilla darwin with it
[21:56] <Axis> Surlent777: ok...hm....
[21:56] <wat> Guest76828 must have a big problem
[21:56] <wat> or be making it overly complicated ;)
[21:56] <Surlent777> haha
[21:56] <slide> linuxonmac, i got the XxX release, so im assuming its modified to boot on non mac machines
[21:56] <Axis> Surlent777: And you pinged the IP given at wlan0 from the wired machine?
[21:56] <guntbert> wat: do you have a support question?
[21:56] <bolt> _dbd_l12: what boot options should I add? as far as I understand, changing vga mode wont help very much, as it does boot all the way to X like I said. it just doesn't proceed from there on
[21:57] <HammerHead66> Guest76828:   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0844653/ anyother show you want to watch just type it in and your there. Make sure to bookmark this page ok
[21:57] <linuxonmac> slide: it comes preloaded in it but when you do an update from apple it will kill it.
[21:57] <Surlent777> Axis: yes
[21:57] <wat> guntbert im here to help people i dont need help with ubuntu often
[21:57] <slide> ah
[21:57] <slide> linuxonmac, well i gotta get osx fully installed first, i think the DVD was messed up
[21:57] <linuxonmac> slide: you can only do apple updates using PC EFI and a vanilla kernel
[21:57] <Axis> Surlent777: I mean you got the IP from the wireless machine, and then pinged it from the wired yes? And the address you pinged was from the wireless client right?
[21:57] <ottertoast> is this the ubuntu help #?
[21:57] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu
[21:58] <guntbert> wat: then please stop making derogative comments
[21:58] <sebsebseb> ottertoast: yes it is
[21:58] <Surlent777> Axis: yes
[21:58] <linuxonmac> slide: your best resource is insanelymac.com or OSX86 forums
[21:58] <wat> guntbert chill out
[21:58] <wat> this kind of thing happens all the time
[21:58] <guntbert> wat: not here :-)
[21:58] <_dbd_l12> bolt: try changing tty's (ctrl+alt+ 1...7) (x is 7) and see if you can get any information as to what is going wrong. i'd go for a quick test with a vga=791 boot option if i where you...
[21:58] <Axis> Surlent777: So what exactly dosen't work? Everything should be ok if the packets got back and forth. Possibly just an application error? Do you have firewalls set up on the two machines?
[21:59] <wat> guntbert you must be new
[21:59] <ottertoast> thanks, i'm trying to limit the bandwidth on my proftpd server and can't get it to work, i've tried the 'transferrate' command in proftpd.conf and tried using the 'trickle' program.
[21:59] <equionx55> hey i ahve an mirc question
[21:59] <buttons1> where can I find the desktop background for Hardy Heron
[21:59] <wat> you're right <Guest76828> can some one help!!!!   that never happens
[21:59] <Surlent777> Axis: I have firestarter on this, and a default UFW installation that came with the wireless
[21:59] <sebsebseb> equionx55: let's guess your question.  you want to know if you can run it in Ubuntu?
[21:59] <dkulchenko> wat: all the time
[21:59] <Surlent777> Axis: debianguy may have found something though, give me a bit to check
[21:59] <Axis> Surlent777: Ok, let me know how that works out
[22:00] <Bagualas> its possible to play sound in "mono"? my speaker is broken ;s
[22:00] <linuxonmac> slide: an easy fix for you is to boot up with the OSX86 DVD, mount your current OSX partition and copy the mach_kernel from the DVD to your installation.
[22:00] <|PaperTiger|> What is the easiest way to identify what HDD and partition the linux installation is on?
[22:00] <_dbd_l12> bolt: if your purpose is installation: there is also the 'alternate' install disc which will probably work fine as it's text-based (but still simple to install)
[22:00] <Axis> Bagualas: What application?
[22:00] <eqisow1> PaperTiger: fdisk -l
[22:00] <ottertoast> |PaperTiger|, fdisk -l
[22:00] <buttons1> Where can I find the desktop background for Hardy Heron?
[22:00] <Bagualas> Axis, all... or just banshee
[22:00] <ottertoast> buttons1, images.google.com
[22:01] <wat> |PaperTiger| use fdisk -l
[22:01] <sebsebseb> buttons1: the Internet or a hardy heron live cd
[22:01] <Axis> Bagualas: I don't know never needed to. Gimme just a sec...
[22:01] <|PaperTiger|> Thanks
[22:01] <buttons1> where would it be located on the hardy heron cd
[22:01] <bolt> _dbd_l12: wont it then just install the same stuff, and it'll hang once it boots to X?
[22:01] <wat> hey
[22:01] <wat> buttons1       http://www.zoto.com/raghunayak/img/original/f4945676561d1081f77d022464388d4d.jpg
[22:02] <wat> learn to google -_-
[22:02] <sebsebseb> buttons1: there's a folder in the file system.   ,but I don't feel like browsing my file system
[22:02] <slide> linuxonmac, the OSX installation failed, it didnt copy all the files
[22:02] <_dbd_l12> bolt: depends, but a install is easier to troubleshoot than a live cd
[22:02] <sebsebseb> buttons1: I am on 8.10, but the default backgrounds go in a folder
[22:02] <|PaperTiger|> This is what I get with fdisk -l
[22:02] <|PaperTiger|> Cannot open /dev/sda
[22:02] <|PaperTiger|> Cannot open /dev/sdb
[22:02] <|PaperTiger|> Cannot open /dev/sdc
[22:02] <ottertoast> |PaperTiger|, use sudo
[22:02] <_dbd_l12> PaperTiger: sudo
[22:02] <ottertoast> thanks, i'm trying to limit the bandwidth on my proftpd server and can't get it to work, i've tried the 'transferrate' command in proftpd.conf and tried using the 'trickle' program.
[22:03] <|PaperTiger|> sudo fdisk -l?
[22:03] <_dbd_l12> yes
[22:03] <ottertoast> tiger, yes
[22:03] <|PaperTiger|> Sorry I'm totally useless
[22:03] <ottertoast> papertiger, we all start somewhere :)
[22:03] <|PaperTiger|> =]
[22:03] <wat> |PaperTiger| i felt the same way with slackware
[22:03] <wat> whenever i would switch between no gui/gui X would crash :P
[22:03] <linuxonmac> slide: I understand now so you could not get it installed but it overwrote your mbr correct
[22:03] <linrunix> #gentoo
[22:04] <wat> |PaperTiger| getting used to ubuntu takes about 20 minutes lmao
[22:04] <constantine> everytime I restart my computer, ubuntu freezes up my desktop icons, turns them black and I can only get into the admin account to where I can read it by logging into a guest account first.  Also i have to reset my cairo-dock and compiz every time so that they look right and/or work.
[22:04] <slide> linuxonmac, right
[22:04] <|PaperTiger|> Getting used to, maybe, but being able to use the terminal stuff... meh.
[22:04] <wat> |PaperTiger| that took me an hour
[22:05] <wat> including memorizing commands
[22:05] <|PaperTiger|> Show off...
[22:05] <wat> |PaperTiger| this isnt gentoo :P
[22:05] <ottertoast> papertiger, its worth learning. keep it up.
[22:05] <Ramesses> an hour just to read about sudo? :))
[22:05] <wat> |PaperTiger| you just have to close irc and everything and focus on reading
[22:05] <|PaperTiger|> I will be learning, most likely the hard way...
[22:05] <ottertoast> can someone help me limit the bandwidth usage on my proftpd server?
[22:05] <HammerHead66> lol yes ram
[22:05] <oCean_> wat: This is ubuntu support channel. For chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <linuxonmac> slide: you can try to us a windows 98 cd and restore windows as the mbr or just made grub head of it. I would personally use a solution like acronis but I have not had a hackintosh in quite some time so not sure if its still able to be used.
[22:05] <cr4z3d> i've got an interesting issue.. when i try to start ubiquity it starts the live cd installer. why is that? i've already installed it to my drive
[22:05] <JEEBcz> I actually prefer to do some stuff via the CLI >_>
[22:05] <wat> oCean_ i know :)
[22:06] <oCean_> wat: then behave
[22:06] <wat> sure
[22:07] <HammerHead66> cr4z3d: ur cd-rom is set to boot first in BIOS go and change it to hard drive first
[22:07] <cr4z3d> oh shit nevermind. ubiquity is the gui installer. i thought it was mozilla's ubiquity
[22:07] <|PaperTiger|> Right, I know there's a command line way to reinstall GRUB, but it didn't want to work for me when I tried it.
[22:07] <guntbert> ottertoast: there's #proftpd with 20 users...
[22:07] <|PaperTiger|> Wondering if anyone here would be able to help?
[22:07] <ottertoast> guntbert, thanks
[22:07] <constantine> ubuntu has frozen more on me than windows has in the last 4 months
[22:07] <constantine> lol
[22:08] <zelda> does 8.10 have the ConvertIT packages
[22:08] <zelda> ?
[22:08] <KingNerd> hey guys
[22:08] <KingNerd> I have a quick question
[22:08] <KingNerd> network manager is crashing my computer
[22:08] <KingNerd> but I cannot access my wireless internet without it
[22:08] <KingNerd> any ideas?
[22:08] <guntbert> !enter
[22:08] <FloodBot1> KingNerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <unko> hey anyone know of a channel about theme's? like gnome in gerneral?
[22:08] <durt> KingNerd, try wicd
[22:09] <constantine> does anyone know how to troubleshoot ubuntu crashes, I can't find anything like this on the forums?
[22:09] <KingNerd> Does it have support for wireless devices? Ｉ　ｔｒｉｅｄ　ｌｘｎｍ　ａｎｄ　ｉｔ　ｄｉｄ　ｎｏｔ
[22:09] <linuxonmac> unko: I think kde-look.org and gnome-look.org both have channels
[22:09] <user___> constantine: you might check for qa - bug hunting people they explain how to obtain debug information
[22:09] <unko> linuxonmac, wht are theY?
[22:09] <ottertoast> unko, and gnome-look.org is a good place to start anyway
[22:10] <guntbert> !details | constantine
[22:10] <Shininggg2000> since upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10, XP won't boot "unrecognized filesystem" any idea?
[22:10] <durt> constantine, stop running compiz etc. then slowly add them back till you isolate what is crashing the system.
[22:10] <durt> !wicd | KingNerd
[22:10] <n3rd4i> anyone here?
[22:10] <unko> linuxonmac, what are the channels?
[22:10] <constantine> thanks durt I'll try that, reboot and come back if necessary
[22:10] <linuxonmac> unko: #gnome-art on irc.gnome.org & #tango on irc.freenode.org
[22:11] <Ndshacker> hello all, can anyone tell me why my ntwork is so slowwww.
[22:11] <HammerHead66> constantine:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad there u go
[22:11] <unko> linuxonmac, thanks
[22:11] <wat> ubuntu can use kde 3.5 correct?
[22:11] <n3rd4i> i need some help with open office CALC
[22:11] <Ndshacker> Clamav is downloading at 1000 b/s
[22:11] <linuxonmac> unko: yw no prob
[22:11] <n3rd4i> anyone can help me?
[22:11] <wat> yes n3rd4i?
[22:11] <debianguy> n3rd4i what you need?
[22:11] <durt> wat, yes.
[22:11] <wat> good
[22:11] <guntbert> n3rd4i:  ask in #openoffice.org
[22:11] <wat> durt is it available in synaptic?
[22:11] <n3rd4i> i want to know how can i ripp the information off a cell
[22:12] <n3rd4i> made with some function
[22:12] <Ndshacker> and firefox is slooooow too
[22:12] <ottertoast> the #proftpd guys arent answering. anyone ever worked with it? i've been at it all day.
[22:12] <constantine> I don't think its a bug, HammerHead66, I think its a conflict of some sort - I'd rather just eliminate it than start a month long bug ticket
[22:12] <Ndshacker> it takes like 5 seconds for google to render
[22:13] <alevine> if i have a busted partition table but I know the data is on the disk, will recreating the partition table with the same cylinders work?
[22:13] <[biabia]> ottertoast: i gave it a whirl but had much better luck with vsftp
[22:13] <HammerHead66> constantine: but it also shows you how to find them
[22:13] <ottertoast> [biabia], the server works fine, all i'm trying to do is get it to stop giving all my avail bandwidth to my users
[22:13] <Ndshacker> >.< how can I test my network? I need to know if its just the download
[22:13] <Iowahc> hello there, got some problem. My Close, minimize, maximize buttons are gone. in gconf-editor -> button_layout they are still there
[22:14] <durt> wattazoum, http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/
[22:14] <monkey_d_luffy> Is there anything better than  par2   for creating forward error recovery files?   It doesn't support subdirectories :(
[22:14] <Surlent777> Iowahc: are you using Metacity or Emerald?
[22:14] <Iowahc> meta
[22:15] <buckethed> any recommendations of providing a mail server/j #ebox
[22:15] <buckethed> oops
[22:15] <Surlent777> Iowahc: I don't think I have any idea then, sorry. I just know that it's possible to mess up emerald in a similar way, but that's easily fixed.
[22:16] <Iowahc> how?, maybe it is connected, used emerald earlier
[22:16] <millertime_018> while installing enlightenment i ran into this...
[22:16] <millertime_018> adam@AcerLaptop:~$ sudo apt-get install zlib
[22:16] <millertime_018> Reading package lists... Done
[22:16] <millertime_018> Building dependency tree
[22:16] <millertime_018> Reading state information... Done
[22:16] <millertime_018> E: Couldn't find package zlib
[22:16] <FloodBot1> millertime_018: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <Surlent777> Iowahc: Emerald is totally different...it would replace Metacity's window decorator afaik
[22:17] <millertime_018> i need to install a package called zlib. can anyone help me?
[22:17] <Iowahc> Surlent777: I know, but I think the problem appeared in emerlad
[22:17] <jrib> millertime_018: why?
[22:17] <millertime_018> well, i need it to install enlightenment
[22:17] <Surlent777> Iowahc: Emerald can change it's window decorations in the theme set up...just make sure that there're symbols there in the emerald configuration box for your theme
[22:17] <millertime_018> jrib: it's listed but the terminal says it couldn't find the package called zlib
[22:17] <jrib> !software > millertime_018
[22:18] <durt> millertime_018, it's zlib-bin
[22:18] <millertime_018> when i run sudo apt-get install zlib
[22:18] <jrib> millertime_018: that's not the package name.  See ubottu's info on how to properly search for packages
[22:18] <millertime_018> !software > millertime_018
[22:19] <unko> is anyone here before ever made a icon pack? i have the icons i just need someone to rename them to work with ubuntu....so if anyone wants to take a shot at it PM me
[22:19] <millertime_018> jrib: i already know how to install stuff
[22:20] <ottertoast> can anyone help me with my proftpd bandwidth limitation?
[22:20] <jrib> millertime_018: do you know how to search for packages?
[22:20] <mustangg> hi all. Could anyone confirm yes/no that ubuntu has dropped use  of "/etc/inittab" in favour of something else.. (upstart?).
[22:20] <millertime_018> jrib: what i'm saying is that it can't find the package when i run the command
[22:20] <millertime_018> jrib: no
[22:20] <jrib> millertime_018: ok, then please take a few minutes to learn
[22:20] <jrib> millertime_018: for example: apt-cache search -n zlib
[22:20] <durt> millertime_018, oops, not zlib-bin, either zlib1g or zlibc. There is no zlib package.
[22:21] <up> dear
[22:21] <millertime_018> well if a guide says that zlib needs to be installed to they mean both?
[22:21] <millertime_018> http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_User_Guide/Installing_from_Source_Repository
[22:21] <Ndshacker> how can i test my bandwith without flash being installed
[22:21] <millertime_018> jrib, durt: i'm looking here and i'm trying to follow the instructions
[22:22] <jrib> millertime_018: you probably need -dev
[22:22] <buckethed> can anyone recommend a web hosting framework for ubuntu servers?  basically looking for mail + web + mysql + dns administration\configuration all using a web frontend.
[22:22] <minimec> millertime_018: What guide are you following and do compile yourself, or do you use a repository?
[22:22] <durt> millertime_018, more than likely zlib1g, that's the runtime libs.
[22:22] <oCean_> !ot | buckethed
[22:22] <buckethed> ok thank you oCean
[22:23] <durt> millertime_018, zlibc are the C language libs.
[22:25] <zejtar> hi. I try customizing kubuntu with using this howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization. My problem is I remove kubuntu installer. And my question is. What are the names of packages for kubuntu installer ?
[22:28] <TomH1973> hello
[22:28] <oCean_> !hi | TomH1973
[22:29] <Surlent777> everyone loves the bot
[22:29] <TomH1973> Anyone know how to get ubuntu to work right with crystal cs4280 soundcard?
[22:30] <mustangg> can anyone confirm that /etc/inittab has been deprecated ..? (intrepid)
[22:31] <oCean_> !runlevels | mustangg
[22:31] <LjL> mustangg: yes it has
[22:31] <LjL> !upstart > mustangg    (mustangg, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:31] <LjL> mustangg: it can still be used to set the default runlevel (mostly useless), but all the rest gets ignored
[22:32] <kalidar> Does anyone know why after i installed wine on my Box my sounds suddenly stopped?
[22:32] <Surlent777> Axis: Firewalls are a pain. That was my whole problem. Now it works. Thanks for the help
[22:33] <TomH1973>  Can anyone help me get the right driver so my sound will work right in Ubuntu Please help
[22:33] <mustangg> LjL: Thanks. Just needed to know if it was correct (ie:deprecated). I'm trying to run down (pun unintended) a problem with a shell script.
[22:33] <kalidar> i have same problem tomh my sound dosent work
[22:34] <TomH1973> My sound works but is realy poor and that is speaking nice
[22:35] <TomH1973> what is os/2?
[22:35] <HammerHead66> TomH: did u kill pulseaudio?
[22:35] <yell> since yesterday i am wondering if gdm completly ignores the xorg.conf
[22:35] <oCean_> !alsa | TomH1973
[22:36] <Milligan> If I have two ips on my server .. can I make ssh listen to port 22 on one ip, and i.e 2222 on the other ip ?
[22:36] <TomH1973> WHat is Pulseaudio ?
[22:36] <Surlent777> TomH1973: It's a sound server
[22:37] <Surlent777> TomH1973: It may also be messed up by default
[22:37] <HammerHead66> TomH: go to /system/Admin/system monitor
[22:37] <aiuw> What's a program to modify metadata?
[22:37] <TomH1973> sso How do You Kill it Do I get out my 22 and start shooting?? lol
[22:37] <HammerHead66> TomH: highlight Processes
[22:38] <Surlent777> TomH1973: Here's a guide fix pulseaudio's quirks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[22:38] <Surlent777> guide to*
[22:38] <HammerHead66> TomH: go down till you see it and right click it and selece kill process
[22:38] <lolwut`> how do i open ssh on ubuntu?
[22:39] <lolwut`> want someone to logon and plant a modded ircd
[22:39] <lolwut`> lol
[22:39] <TomH1973> I can not find Processes
[22:39] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a way to reformat a HDD on Linux?
[22:39] <HammerHead66> TomH: your in GUI right?
[22:40] <Sagaci> TomH1973: processes is a tab on the top side
[22:40] <wat> sup
[22:40] <TomH1973> Im using Ubuntu
[22:40] <TomH1973> im on Ubuntu
[22:40] <fremapesua> Hello everyone
[22:40] <wat> my 1.5 tb external hard drive isnt being recognized
[22:41] <sebsebseb> .
[22:41] <TomH1973>  I have the ubuntu logo Applications Places System
[22:41] <fremapesua> quick question... there is some software where it will able to open a the band on a cellphone to run in ubuntu?
[22:42] <unko> can someone in here make an icon pack for me please? i ahve all the icon i just need someone to make it work with ubuntu!! please please please
[22:42] <wat> does anyone know what i should do about my external hard drive not being recognized?
[22:42] <mustangg> wat - a seagate? if so, best to check if it is are on their "recall" list (firmware issue) before doin too much work
[22:42] <jrib> unko: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/IconThemes
[22:42] <John_OAS> Wat, what is it formatted to?  What size is it?
[22:42] <unko> John_OAS, me?
[22:43] <wat> mustangg it is seagate :o
[22:43] <wat> mustangg it worked fine in fedora
[22:43] <mustangg> wat - ok, just a fyi then. \
[22:43] <John_OAS> no sorry, wat - re extrnal hard drive.  Is it formatted?  Fat32, ext, etc
[22:43] <lolwut`> how do i open ssh on ubuntu?
[22:43] <jrib> !ssh | lolwut`
[22:43] <yell> i mean how can it be that on the one hand startx fails, but gdm is fine (with messed up xorg.conf) and on the other sometimes gdm starts with a nice window complaining about my graphic settings (with a fresh auto-generated xorg.conf)?
[22:43] <unko> jrib, wanna make it for me? seems like a long proccess to do that
[22:44] <jrib> unko: no
[22:44] <lolwut`> thanks
[22:44] <wat> mustangg its at /dev/sdg
[22:44] <wat> mustangg i forgot to add its ntfs
[22:44] <John_OAS> wat, does it still work OK on other systems?
[22:44] <unko> jrib, :[
[22:44] <wat> John_OAS yes it does, on fedora 10/windows xp
[22:45] <jrib> unko: i bet if you sit down and read for a few minutes you can finish within 30 minutes :)
[22:45] <wat> also John_OAS its being recognized by fdisk -l
[22:45] <John_OAS> If a portable drive is disconnected from say, a Windows machine without a "clean" disconnect, Ubuntu won't mount it.
[22:45] <wat> that hasnt happend
[22:45] <wat> ill boot windows right quick
[22:45] <John_OAS> If you can, reconnect it to the XP box, use the "remove media" and wait for the "Device is OK to remove now" message, and try agian.
[22:46] <jimisrvrox> I need to reinstall nm-applet because I tried out wicd and wasnt too successful with it and I treid to look for it on the ubuntu cd and couldnt get it back on my wifes system
[22:46] <unko> jrib, re naming all of them! pfft and i need to find which is which man....im not good at these kinda things
[22:46] <mrjohns1> could anyone recommend a configuration management software like. cfengine ? which is best for ubuntu/debian?
[22:46] <unko> jrib, it's a pretty nice theme look http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?twytmmyywyt
[22:48] <John_OAS> Anyone got any idea why one of my machine's wont let me login today?  Regardless of which login I use, I'm bounced straight back to the login screen or prompt.
[22:48] <yell> to restate my question: startx uses xorg.conf, what does gdm use?
[22:48] <tq|Memphis> anyone know rar password cracker ?
[22:48] <lstarnes> yell: xorg.conf and the files in /etc/gdm/
[22:48] <yell> John_OAS is your disc quota/space full?
[22:48] <Surlent777> and now for something completely different: I tired using the MAKE USB BOOT DISK tool, and used it to make a LiveUSB of 8.10. It worked. I was done with it, so I just erased everything on it, and now it doesn't want to boot off of it anymore. Any ideas as to why this might be?
[22:48] <durt> yell, gdm runs on top of xorg
[22:48] <John_OAS> It's not a password issue, I get a proper "Login incorrect" message when I get that wrong./
[22:49] <funkyHat> Can I make the mail check that is run on login shells check a maildir rather than the user's mbox?
[22:49] <yell> if gdm runs on top of xorg, how can "gdm" work and "startx" fail?
[22:49] <John_OAS> yell, I'm pretty sure it's nowhere near it.  I'm booting from  a live CD now to have a look at the drive.
[22:49] <Ndshacker> hello, yesterday I was downloading at speeds >50 kb/s
[22:49] <unko> anyone wanna make a icon theme for me? i have the icons i just need someone to do it for me :]
[22:49] <Turtle_> ¾
[22:50] <oCean_> !best | mrjohns1
[22:50] <Ndshacker> now i am getting lucky to get 10 kb/s
[22:50] <durt> startx, starts and xsession, window manager etc. the prob is not withxorg
[22:50] <crdlb> yell: in what way does it fail?
[22:50] <durt> starts an
[22:51] <wat> John_OAS
[22:51] <constantine> hi all, I'm having a problem maximizing windows, they only maximize to fill half of the screen
[22:51] <binarymutant> I'm trying to split a video into smaller parts for youtube, what can I use to do this?
[22:51] <wat> my external hard drive is recognized in windows i can explore it
[22:51] <John_OAS> OK was, do a by the book WIndows disconnect.
[22:51] <wat> sure
[22:51] <John_OAS> Sorry, "wat"
[22:51] <yell> crdlb: have a fileserver without a monitor, but a TV connected. if i had modes by hand to my xorg.conf with 50Hz forced, then startx replys that no suitable mode was found. gdm however just starts with 60Hz
[22:51] <crdlb> constantine: what window manager are you using?
[22:52] <wat> um John_OAS i cant eject it
[22:52] <krzysz00> wat, does it show in the places menu (might be as <some number> GB media
[22:52] <John_OAS> Windows says it's still in use?
[22:52] <yell> crdlb: not "had" but "add" :)
[22:52] <wat> John_OAS there is no option for eject
[22:52] <wat> wait hold on
[22:52] <whileimhere> hi is there a channel for wine-picasa users anywhere?
[22:53] <constantine> crdlb I don't know how do I find out
[22:53] <crdlb> yell: they both use the xorg.conf, so I don't know; they might use different arguments to the Xorg binary though
[22:53] <crdlb> constantine: do you have visual effects enabled?
[22:53] <John_OAS> Just use the "Safely remove hardware" icon in the system tray. (Green arrow thingy)
[22:53] <constantine> crdlb yes
[22:53] <krzysz00> in ubuntu, right click on the drive's icon and pick unmount volume (wat)
[22:53] <crdlb> constantine: do you have CompizConfig Settings Manager (ccsm) installed?
[22:54] <constantine> crdlb I just uninstalled it
[22:54] <eseven3> i need libopenexr2ldbl but cant find it anywhere, it's needed for the Yafaray renderer for Blender, it's supposed to work in ibex, I tried sudo dpkg -i --force- yafaray_299svn_i386.deb  no luck
[22:54] <mrjohns1> could anyone recommend a configuration management software like. cfengine ? which is best for ubuntu/debian?
[22:54] <crdlb> constantine: err, why?
[22:54] <Ndshacker> help?
[22:54] <krzysz00> exven3 try sudo dpkg -i yafaray_299svn_i386.deb
[22:55] <TaG^> is there a channel for eee pc?
[22:55] <krzysz00> have you tried apt-cache search openexr
[22:55] <eseven3> yeah
[22:55] <oCean_> TaG^: #ubuntu-eeepc
[22:55] <krzysz00> what's the error
[22:55] <constantine> crdlb: it was causing problems with my login, black screen  - color bars appearing, etc.
[22:55] <eseven3> get dependency probs :(
[22:55] <TaG^> oCean_ thanks
[22:56] <wat> John_OAS nope :/
[22:56] <oCean_> wat: You know the device name, but it has not been mounted ? And it is ntfs?
[22:56] <Ariana> ok, so i've downloaded this "unetbootin" program like i was told, and it's not offering me anywhere reasonable to install the linux to
[22:57] <John_OAS> OK then, just do a complete shutdown of the XP Box with the portable drive connected.  WHen it's shutdown completely, asuming no errros, remove the drive and reconnect to your Ubuntu box.
[22:57] <Ariana> it only gives me a choice of my windows partitions
[22:57] <wat> yes oCean_
[22:57] <Ariana> even though i have already made a linux ext3 and swap
[22:57] <oCean_> wat: then mount manually first, see if that works
[22:57] <wat> John_OAS i have already done that
[22:57] <jerrymcfarts> hey peeps
[22:57] <wat> oCean_ whats the command i forget
[22:57] <wat> not mnt?
[22:57] <Ariana> anyone have any ideas?
[22:57] <oCean_> wat: "sudo mkdir /mydisk" <- or whatever
[22:57] <oCean_> wat: "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /mydisk"
[22:58] <oCean_> wat: sdg if i remember correctly
[22:58] <eseven73> krzysz00: http://paste.ubuntu.com/135669/
[22:58] <crdlb> constantine: ccsm itself did not do that
[22:58] <Ariana> anyone, hello?
[22:58] <guizmo> hello
[22:58] <crdlb> constantine: you have to fix any changes to compiz's configuration that you made _in_ ccsm, or just turn off compiz entirely (Visual effects to None)
[22:58] <wat> oCean_ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg
[22:58] <wat>  correct
[22:58] <wat> ?
[22:59] <Ariana> ok, so i have a ext3 and a swap partition, why isnt unetbootin only giving me a choice of my windows partitions to install to?
[22:59] <oCean_> wat: almost
[22:59] <Ariana> why is*
[22:59] <oCean_> wat: "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /mydisk"
[22:59] <irbdavid> anyone have any suggestions to speed up flash / video performance on a GMA 950 netbook?
[22:59] <eseven73> my helper just abandoned me lol, so can anyone else help?  getting dependency issues trying to install this blender renderer http://paste.ubuntu.com/135669/
[22:59] <oCean_> wat: replace /mydisk with whatever (existing!) directory you want your disk mounted to
[23:00] <wat> um what. fuse: failed to access mountpoint /music: No such file or directory
[23:00] <oCean_> wat: so create /music first "sudo mkdir /music"
[23:00] <John_OAS> wat: create the directory first, make sure it doesn't have anything else in it, as oCean has detailed.
[23:00] <wat> oCean_ the folder music is already there -_-
[23:00] <wat> oh wait i see
[23:01] <John_OAS> Removable drive are often mounted at /media/whatever
[23:01] <John_OAS> creat the "whatever" folder for your drive first.
[23:01] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[23:02] <Ariana> should i just assume that the stuff i type, noone sees?
[23:02] <wat> John_OAS how can i create the directory at the external drive? sudo mkdir /dev/sdg/asdf doesnt work
[23:02] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i can see it
[23:02] <Ariana> any ideas then?
[23:02] <wat> ariana hold on
[23:02] <eseven73> Ariana: i had you on ignore i see you now
[23:02] <eseven73> j/k hehe
[23:02] <oCean_> wat: nono
[23:02] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i just came in so havent seen your query
[23:02] <John_OAS> wat: "sudo mkdir /media/myhdd"
[23:02] <oCean_> wat: don't create dir on /dev/sdg. First you have to mount the disk!
[23:02] <wat> ariana do a manual parittion setup
[23:02] <ActionParsnip1> wat: to make the folder the partition must be mounted
[23:03] <Ariana> the partitions are already set up
[23:03] <Ariana> its on an external harddrive, i've already made an ext3 and a swap
[23:03] <Ariana> i just need to install to it now
[23:03] <wat> John_OAS when replacing myhdd with /dev/sdg it says no such file/directory
[23:03] <pvtpete> hi
[23:03] <wat> wait nevermind
[23:03] <pvtpete> my fstab file has been wiped
[23:03] <binarymutant> what are some good video editing apps for linux?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: part of the partitioning is to set what each is used for and if it is to be formatted or not
[23:03] <pvtpete> what does a normal one look like, anyone ?
[23:03] <Ariana> they've been formated, yes
[23:03] <wat> mount: can't find /media/dev/sdg in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:03] <ActionParsnip1> binarymutant: kio, avidemux are some
[23:04] <binarymutant> ActionParsnip1, ty
[23:04] <oCean_> wat: Are you completely ignoring my commands?
[23:04] <Ariana> i'm in windows atm, i want to install ubuntu onto my external hdd, i used paragon partition manager to make the partitions and format em
[23:04] <wat> oCean_ no im not
[23:04] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: run through the installed and tell it which partitions are used for each mount point (/ and /swp)
[23:04] <oCean_> wat: Read back what I suggested. Make a folder (mountpoint) then run the mount command with the correct options
[23:04] <Ariana> action, i'm in windows atm, trying to get ubuntu installed onto an external hdd
[23:04] <John_OAS> wat: "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /media/myhdd"
[23:04] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: they will need formatting ext2 or ext3
[23:04] <Ndshacker> !/etc/network/interfaces
[23:05] <Ariana> i have an 8.1gb ext3 followed by a 2gb swap2
[23:05] <Ndshacker> !find /etc/network/interfaces
[23:05] <ActionParsnip1> John_OAS: yu'll need more options on that
[23:05] <wat> John_OAS why are you putting myhdd?
[23:05] <jerrymcfarts> I walked into a bar last night and there was a weird contest going on. They apparently had meet nailed to the ceiling and the bartender tells me to throw this dart and if i hit the meat. I get a free beer. Well I told him frankly that I would not part take in his games, simply because the steaks were to high.
[23:05] <ActionParsnip1> John_OAS: so users can write to it
[23:05] <wat> also i get failed to access mountpoint
[23:05] <unko> anyone in here wanna make a sweet icon theme? i have the icons all i need is for you to pack them up and rename them
[23:05] <biglinux> server irc.virtualife.com.br
[23:05] <John_OAS> You can use whatever directory you created to mount your drive to.
[23:05] <Ndshacker> i alll, my internet works, but my download speed is like 10 kb/s >.<
[23:05] <ActionParsnip1> wat: you need to create an empty folder to mount to
[23:05] <biglinux> server irc.virtualife.com.br
[23:06] <John_OAS> In my previous command I showed how to create the /media/myhdd directory, as an example.
[23:06] <Ndshacker> I need soem help as that is an unnaceptable spped
[23:06] <ActionParsnip1> wat: try this
[23:06] <Ariana> so, the  partitions are all ready, but when i run unetbootin, it only gives me a choice of my windows ntfs partitions to install to
[23:06] <wat> sorry about my ignorance there is a lot of background noise
[23:06] <Ariana> why?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip1> wat: sudo mkdir /media/mydata; mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /media/mydata -o uid=1000
[23:06] <wat> thanks man
[23:07] <Ariana> and what other programs can i use to install ubuntu onto an external hdd from within windows?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: does the other disk show up in sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:07] <wat> ActionParsnip1 when i do that it says only root can do this lmao
[23:07] <Ariana> what's sudo fdisk?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: not sure, i dont use windows at all
[23:07] <ikanobori> hi oCean_
[23:07] <wat> Ariana fdisk -l shows you all your drives on your system
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> Wat it needs sudo on the mount command
[23:07] <wat> o
[23:07] <oCean_> ikanobori: hey
[23:07] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: sudo fdisk -l  will list your partitions in the system that the kernel can see
[23:08] <Ariana> fdisk is not a recognised command
[23:08] <John_OAS> wat, Action gave you two commands there, you can separate them.
[23:08] <Ariana> IM USING WINDOWS
[23:08] <Ariana> i've said that like 5 times
[23:08] <mustangg> ariana - tried using a livecd and setting up directly ?
[23:08] <wat> thanks for all the help guys
[23:08] <Ariana> and u keep giving me linux commands to run
[23:08] <tritium> Ariana: please, no all-caps.
[23:08] <wat> im saving that command
[23:08] <tritium> Ariana: this is a linux support channel, not Windows.
[23:08] <pvtpete> hi, could someone please help me with fstab
[23:08] <Ariana> im trying to install ubuntu
[23:08] <militant> what package is needed for imagemagick?  i've installed both graphicsmagick and imagemagick pkgs and neither seems to actually be installed
[23:08] <wat> Ariana if you really did install unetbootin you would have a bootloader ;)
[23:08] <pvtpete> the file seems to have been erased
[23:08] <pvtpete> or blanked out
[23:08] <Ariana> install? it's just an executable
[23:08] <binarymutant> Ariana, fdisk is in windows too btw
[23:08] <ActionParsnip1> Wat: if you put that in your /etc/fstab (but re-arranged) AND the drive is internal, it will mount at bootup
[23:08] <Ariana> want me to take a screenshot?
[23:09] <wat> -_____________________________________-
[23:09] <wat> UNETBOOTIN INSTALLS A BOOTLOADER
[23:09] <ActionParsnip1> !usb | Ariana
[23:09] <wat> IT CAN INSTALL GPARTED OR A LINUX DISTRO
[23:09] <tritium> !caps | wat
[23:09] <ActionParsnip1> Wat: kil the caps
[23:09] <wat> you said you have installed gparted
[23:09] <wat> unetbootin*
[23:09] <Ariana> i'm not trying to install FROM a flash drive, i'm just trying to install ONTO an external HDD, from windows, without making and booting a CD
[23:09] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: read htose guides for installing to usb
[23:10] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: could use a vm maybe
[23:10] <Ariana> isn't there just a program to run, which will install ubuntu onto the hdd, from windows?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: to boot the iso and then install to usb that way
[23:10] <balrog____> how do i get pulseaudio to play my music on my laptop through the speakers on my desktop?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i dont use windows so i dont know
[23:10] <wat> Ariana can you boot from usb
[23:10] <ii_> Ariana: You could try wubi
[23:11] <binarymutant> Ariana, I think it's called wubi
[23:11] <Ariana> i was told wubi would mess up my boot sector
[23:11] <Ariana> i don't want my boot sector modified
[23:11] <ActionParsnip1> balrog____: ive been after than and so far i turned up blank
[23:11] <infiter789> anyone knows a program to boot vector linux lite in a usb 2.0 pendrive?
[23:11] <wat> Ariana,
[23:11] <tritium> !wubi | Ariana
[23:11] <wat> who told you that Ariana dont listen to that person
[23:11] <wat> i dont recommend wubi but still
[23:11] <Ariana> ok, well i'l give that a go, thanks
[23:12] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: it adds stuff to the windows bootup, what is so precious of your boot sector if yu only boot windows
[23:12] <balrog____> ActionParsnip1: then what is the use of keeping it?
[23:12] <infiter789> Ariana: Use Wine... is another option, and is quite simple.
[23:12] <ActionParsnip1> balrog____: keeping what?
[23:12] <Ariana> ok, wubi has the same problem
[23:12] <Ariana> it only offers me my windows partitions to install to
[23:12] <Ariana> not my linux oens
[23:13] <balrog__> ActionParsnip1: pulseaudio...it seems really useless, and ive never gotten it to work as it is marketed (this isnt the first time ive tried to get it to work)
[23:13] <tritium> Ariana: no, that's not a problem.  That's how it works.
[23:13] <Jared> hey guys
[23:13] <Jared> i believe i am in need of some help
[23:13] <Ariana> but i've got an ext3 and a swap partition waiting
[23:13] <dubby> hey anyone, im running ubuntu on a core2 quad q6600 and going into system monitor, i only see one CPU
[23:13] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: the windows OS can only read and write to NTFS unless you install fs-driver, which is why its not showing the space as an option
[23:13] <dubby> why is that
[23:13] <dubby> i have an smp kernel
[23:13] <wat> Ariana delete those
[23:13] <ActionParsnip1> balrog__: i use alsa, tried and tested
[23:13] <balrog__> Jared: just state the question/s  :-)
[23:13] <wat> ubuntu has a great partition manager
[23:13] <Ariana> so, you're saying i have to burn a CD, basically?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: it'd save you a tonne of issues
[23:14] <Jared> I've been stuck using vista for the past 7 months and i'm fed up with it. I need help configuring ndiswrapper for a WUSB300N linksys usb wireless adapter so i can get on linux again... i miss my 3d desktop and i'm going insane.
[23:14] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: you can install fs-driver from www.fs-driver.org
[23:14] <Ariana> and installing from the CD wont change my boot sector?
[23:14] <kudi> ActionParsnip1: delete windows
[23:14] <Jared> and i have no clue how to use ndiswrapper >..>
[23:14] <wat> Ariana dont be so paranoid
[23:14] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: and your ext3 formatted partions will be available to windows
[23:14] <balrog__> ActionParsnip1: "forget" PA then, its just a waste of time for me then.  hopefully someday it isnt, but that day seems to be a long ways off.  thanks for your help.
[23:14] <wat> also Jared you can get a 3d desktop for windows ;)
[23:14] <John_OAS> You cna use wubi to install to a different paritiion, Ariana, but not an ext3 one, as ActionParsnip pointed out.
[23:14] <wat> Ariana just delete your dang ext3 partitions already!
[23:14] <Trin> that fs-driver is not compatible with vista
[23:14] <Imahilus> hello?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: it will on the USB as thats where itts being installed to
[23:15] <Trin> i have tried it
[23:15] <Ariana> i'm using xp not vista
[23:15] <Jared> its not the same... 15,000 frames a second on glxgears > vista lol
[23:15] <wat> hi Imahilus
[23:15] <Iowahc> Hy there, still got my problem :D, no buttons in my window title, using metacity
[23:15] <anarchomaniac> hey
[23:15] <mustangg> Ariana you know that even when the mbr is changed - ie: lilo or grub, that it can be restore with windows own tools?
[23:15] <Jared> anyway, anyone know how to configure ndiswrapper ?
[23:15] <anarchomaniac> guys, i know you dread hearing this; i'm a linux noob with an Ndiswrapper problem.
[23:15] <pvtpete> hi.. I'm following this guide but I can't find the script on the server https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:15] <Ariana> yes mustan, i had that happen once before, but had to reinstall windows to get it back
[23:15] <pvtpete> maybe the documentation is out of date ?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: if you are only boting P i really dont understand why you are worried about the bot sector. It can be easily repaired with you Pcd with a simple fixmbr then fixbot   job done
[23:15] <Trin> actionparsnip1 do you know of a driver or program that will do the samething that ariana is trying to do
[23:15] <tritium> Ariana: no, you didn't have to.  You may have done that, but it was unnecessary.
[23:15] <Jared> anarchomaniac: we have the same problem lol, im not quite a noob but ive never done ndis xD
[23:15] <wat> this channel moves too fast
[23:16] <Imahilus> don't suppose anybody could help me with a (wireless) network issue? (connection 'dropping' / lagging every now and again
[23:16] <Ariana> unnecessary? ohdear
[23:16] <anarchomaniac> Jared: lol, pm me please. i want to discuss my problem and see if it's teh same
[23:16] <ActionParsnip1> Trin: not sure, i'd burn a cd as they are dead useful
[23:16] <Jared> kk
[23:16] <Ariana> that link you gave me, its only talking about ext2 support, will it do ext3 also?
[23:16] <Trin> my files constantly change though
[23:16] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: sure youjust wont be able to read the journal
[23:17] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i think you are making this way too complicated
[23:17] <tritium> Ariana: please, read the documentation.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[23:17] <Trin> and my computer for some reason wont reconize cdrw's
[23:17] <kudi> any1 know of a gtk-change themes like program strictly for icons...im running ubuntu with just fluxbox nothing else
[23:17] <ActionParsnip1> !icons
[23:17] <ActionParsnip1> haha
[23:17] <wat> with dual monitors how do i keep my top bar from stretching across both monitors
[23:17] <Iowahc> I am missing my close, min, and max button, using metacity
[23:18] <Imahilus> lots of people with problems in here o.o'
[23:18] <wat> fixed
[23:18] <kudi> lol not even close
[23:18] <ActionParsnip1> kudi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228892
[23:18] <Trin> action<> anyother way to do that without constantly burning cd's
[23:19] <Ariana> ok, so now my ext3 and swap partitions are showing up
[23:19] <Ariana> so i can use unetbootin to install to there it seems
[23:19] <John_OAS> Well done wat.
[23:19] <mustangg> Imahilus yeah and some even related to ubuntu &)
[23:19] <Imahilus> I'm having a issue with ubuntu =)
[23:20] <John_OAS> yell, I don't think my quote is the issue (talking about automatic login bounce).  Any other ideas?
[23:20] <Imahilus> also having an issue with XP on the side
[23:20] <Imahilus> but the XP issue is moot
[23:20] <ryanakca> I'm using a VT and I got ``BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s! [cc1:22054]''. My computer isn't responding anymore. Anything I can do? I have a few files open I'd rather not loose...
[23:20] <John_OAS> yell, sorry, "Quota".  Command line logins also bounce me out.  Ctrl-Alt-F1 login the same.
[23:20] <pvtpete> any fstab experts here ?
[23:20] <ryanakca> !anyone | pvtpete
[23:20] <pvtpete> or automatic drive mounting experts
[23:21] <Imahilus> wondering if any of you people have your wireless connection (almost) dropping every now and again?
[23:21] <ImInYourMonad> is Ubuntu an AI?
[23:21] <pvtpete> I'm having problems automatically mounting my drives with the script from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:21] <pvtpete> because it's telling me the script can't be found on the server
[23:22] <pvtpete> maybe someone would be able to help me please ? :)
[23:22] <Time`s_Witness> is there any msn client or plugin for linux that displays activity log per user? (logins/logouts/name changes/status changes)
[23:22] <Time`s_Witness> similarly to msn plus
[23:22] <Imahilus> afraid I'm a newly convertee, pvtpete
[23:22] <arizona> hello
[23:22] <Imahilus> newly converted* even
[23:22] <Imahilus> ey
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: probably
[23:23] <Iowahc> I am missing my close, min, and max button, using metacity
[23:23] <pvtpete> np imahilus
[23:23] <arizona> i am trying to figure out if there is a method to upgrade compiz on hardy, via .deb or repos, to a newer version than 0.7.6
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: also theres Kmess and Mercury Messenger a closed source Java app, made by only one guy
[23:23] <pvtpete> been hanging around for a while.. this channels busy central
[23:23] <John_OAS> pvtpete: Is this an extra hdd or exernal drive?  I assume your main drive is OK and your Ubuntu install is generally healthy?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: did you chmod +x the script ?
[23:23] <Imahilus> it says 1400 people in the room, a dozen or so active ones?
[23:24] <Time`s_Witness> and does any of those have that functionality sebsebseb ?
[23:24] <_VIM_> Imahilus: most people idle
[23:24] <nonix4> Is there a way to make kernel reserve upper 5 gigs of ram for buffer+cache?
[23:24] <Imahilus> bummer, could've used some help =)
[23:24] <pvtpete> that's correct john_OAS . thanks for the help
[23:24] <ActionParsnip1> ask | Imahilus
[23:24] <pvtpete> fyi it's 6 internal drives
[23:24] <Imahilus> it is wireless related
[23:24] <pvtpete> 1 isn't working on top of that
[23:24] <Scott_Galinsky> Hi. Could someone help me out?
[23:24] <Imahilus> perhaps wired aswell, can't test that though
[23:24] <ImInYourMonad> can Ubuntu get me a girlfriend?
[23:24] <pvtpete> for an unknown reason
[23:25] <Imahilus> yes, ubuntu can
[23:25] <pvtpete> lol
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: try them or find out about them.  also I think there will be a plugin for PIdgin
[23:25] <ImInYourMonad> cool
[23:25] <ImInYourMonad> lela star?
[23:25] <Imahilus> doubtful
[23:25] <John_OAS> pvtpete: Check the permission on the script as ActionParsnip said.  Make sure it's where you think it is and with the right name.
[23:25] <mbrigdan> Its good but its not all powerful
[23:25] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: and MSN plus is a load of rubbish,  it  tends to put spyware or other rubbish on peoples computers as well, even if they say no to the sponser program
[23:25] <Imahilus> its actually better than windows o.o'
[23:25] <arizona> i am trying to figure out if there is a method to upgrade compiz on hardy, via .deb or repos, to a newer version than 0.7.6
[23:25] <militant> i could really use a pointer here.  the ubuntu packages labeled imagemagick and graphicsmagick are installing documentation but nothing else????
[23:26] <pvtpete> according to the doc it should be cd
[23:26] <pvtpete> wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[23:26] <Trin> does anyone know of a windows driver that will work with vista business?
[23:26] <Time`s_Witness> i know that and i agree with that sebsebseb, i use that functionality alot though
[23:26] <Time`s_Witness> thats why im asking for linux's version :P
[23:26] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: it's good your looking into alternatives, but there is a way you can have MSN plus  in Ubuntu well kind of
[23:26] <Imahilus> @ trin: what kind of a driver?
[23:26] <pvtpete> I tried that but it told me..  wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[23:26] <pvtpete> --2009-03-22 23:05:49--  http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[23:26] <pvtpete> Resolving media.ubuntu-nl.org... failed: Name or service not known.
[23:26] <pvtpete> wget: unable to resolve host address `media.ubuntu-nl.org'
[23:26] <FloodBot1> pvtpete: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <Scott_Galinsky> I have installed Ubuntu using Wubi. what i'm not understanding is that they keep saying "try" it. I want it installed. How do I do that?
[23:26] <_VIM_> !ppa | arizona (maybe try this)....
[23:26] <Time`s_Witness> i dont want to se wine for msn in linux
[23:26] <arizona> thanks
[23:26] <Time`s_Witness> or anything similar. i might use it for other applications eventually.. but avoid to max
[23:27] <Scott_Galinsky> I have installed Ubuntu using Wubi. what i'm not understanding is that they keep saying "try" it. I want it installed. How do I do that?
[23:27] <arizona> !ppa
[23:27] <arizona> oO, sry.
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: no not WIne,  a Windows virtual machine instead.  and yes I know Windows LIve Messenger or both with MSN plus,  would be a sucky reason for a virtual machine  or even  to use Wine if they would work there
[23:27] <Scott_Galinsky> I have installed Ubuntu using Wubi. what i'm not understanding is that they keep saying "try" it. I want it installed. How do I do that?
[23:27] <Imahilus> @ Scott Galinsky: I used the live CD, theres this big icon named 'install ubuntu', that does just that
[23:27] <ActionParsnip1> Time`s_Witness: tried amsn
[23:27] <Scott_Galinsky> I think that I did that. When I was in windows I ran the EXE
[23:27] <Ariana> what would you guys suggest as the best bootloader then for use with both linux and windows?
[23:27] <militant> apt-get install graphicsmagick  only results in some things being put in /usr/share/doc/graphicsmagick   ... NOTHING else.   what gives?  seriously, it installed just fine yesterday
[23:27] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: he wants a partcular feature
[23:27] <Scott_Galinsky> And then it installed
[23:27] <Time`s_Witness> lol, if im going to use VM in linux i better not to install linux, im at windows with VM for linux now ;)
[23:27] <Ariana> preferably a nice good looking one
[23:28] <Scott_Galinsky> does that mean I'm done?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip1> sebsebseb: bah
[23:28] <Imahilus> that will instull ubuntu under windows I believe
[23:28] <Imahilus> not sure if that is what you're after?
[23:28] <John_OAS> Scott, Boot from the CD, install from there.  If you can boot ubuntu without the CD afterwards, you're done!
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: lol your running  Ubuntu inside Windows?
[23:28] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: grub is fine, i wouldnt worry about looks, its on the screen for a few seconds
[23:28] <Imahilus> grub is good
[23:28] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: well good for trying, but then you should partition your hard disk for a real install latero n
[23:29] <NIGGAJEWCHINK> hai guise!
[23:29] <pvtpete> ActionParsnip - hey. How can I get the diskmounter script ? the address in the documentation doesnt appear to work for me
[23:29] <Time`s_Witness> yea im trying to get to know how to get the basic comodity for it before actually moving. its not like i would feel confortable if i wouldnt know how to connect to the network for instance ;)
[23:29] <pvtpete> actionparsnip1 even :)
[23:29] <_VIM_> I'd rather see people using Ubuntu in Windows via Vmware/Vbox over that wubi thing
[23:29] <Time`s_Witness> but that's the worse case of all. just to give the example :)
[23:29] <ActionParsnip1> Ariana: i'd go by functionality  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_boot_loaders
[23:29] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: oh you got wireless?
[23:29] <militant> oh fuck this
[23:29] <militant> jesus christ
[23:29] <Time`s_Witness> no, sebsebseb, so yea its automated.. i didnt know that though ;)
[23:30] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: your running wireless?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: never heard of it, just mount it yourself, if the partitions are internal then ad lines to /etc/fstab
[23:30] <pvtpete> ah
[23:30] <pvtpete> but my fstab file has been wiped actionparsnip1
[23:30] <pvtpete> it's just coming up blank
[23:31] <pvtpete> producing an error on boot that I have ton control-d
[23:31] <pvtpete> out of
[23:31] <sebsebseb> tritium: he swore yeah, but   he got annoyed with his issue.   a proper ban?
[23:31] <Time`s_Witness> no. but  i didn't know that wired is automated :) we even need to /mount some devices so ... O.o :P dunno if you have felt the weird sensation, its hard moving to somethign else when used windows for all life
[23:31] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/  doesnt exist
[23:31] <tritium> sebsebseb: yes, proper
[23:31] <dr_dasos> is there a way to make "hide join/part" in xchat the default behavior and to activate it on a channel by channel basis? ubuntu 8.10 amd64
[23:31] <pvtpete> so the documentations wrong ?
[23:31] <sebsebseb> tritium: only thing with that, if new users get banned from the suppourt channel,  that actsaully wanted help, that could put them off Ubuntu?
[23:32] <pvtpete> hmm ok
[23:32] <John_OAS> pvtpete: You should be able to create a new fstab, if the old one is truly gone.  An fstab entry is more straightforward the the script.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: the domain whatever you are reading doesnt exist
[23:32] <pvtpete> hmm ok
[23:32] <_VIM_> sebsebseb: they've been doing this for 4 years, im sure they must be doing something right :)
[23:32] <pvtpete> from hand
[23:33] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: yes the ethernet should just work
[23:33] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: if you want i can give you my fstab and yuo can modify it to use as your own
[23:33] <pvtpete> or is there a command for that John_OAS ? :)
[23:33] <pvtpete> ok
[23:33] <tritium> sebsebseb: he's not new.  #ubuntu-ops if you have further questions.  This is not the proper forum.
[23:33] <Steve|Office> Which package provides perlcc? apt-cache search perlcc libperl-dev but that doesn't have it. apt-file search perlcc only lists perl-doc-html
[23:33] <pvtpete> that'd be great. Thans ActionParsnip1 and John_OAS
[23:33] <pvtpete> *thanks
[23:33] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: http://pastebin.com/f74eec232
[23:33] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: you'll need   sudo fdisk -l to show partitions
[23:33] <pvtpete> ok
[23:33] <pvtpete> and then just copy and paste
[23:33] <pvtpete> right ?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: wireless is the one people tend to get issues with, hence why I was asking.  if you had wireless working in  WIndows, and you were running a virtual machine of Ubuntu, then sure it could be working, but then maybe it won't  in a proper install
[23:34] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: you wil need to change the disk uuids too
[23:34] <sebsebseb> tritium: the proper channel you meant, and indeed at that
[23:34] <tritium> sebsebseb: forum in the generic sense.
[23:34] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: and if you drive isnt /dev/sda then that will need changing
[23:34] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: and if you have your partitions ordered different, that needs changing too
[23:35] <sebsebseb> tritium: ah ok, and subject over
[23:35] <Time`s_Witness> yea, i'm aware of that sebsebseb. trying to familiarize with software, i'm aware hardware might be a different problem when in real OS so im not bothering too much for now
[23:35] <pvtpete> All of that is under fdisk -l though right ?
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: yeah  put 9.04 on for real, and do Ext4 as the partition.  Ext4 is pretty new,  no  Ext4 in 8.10
[23:35] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: partition?  yes the file system for it
[23:35] <mbrigdan> Anyone know of a good stability test for ubuntu? (Similar to prime95) ?
[23:36] <pvtpete> ActionParsnip1 : Will it also preserve network shares as I'm using the machine as a backup raid device
[23:36] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: 9.04 is next Ubuntu released at the end of April
[23:36] <Time`s_Witness> oh 9.04 out? didn't know O.o
[23:36] <sebsebseb> no it's not see above
[23:36] <tritium> Hi, gcleric_
[23:36] <Time`s_Witness> ah. k!
[23:36] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: folders shared on the local machine are not the responsibility of fstab
[23:37] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: if the system mounts network shares you will need to add those extra
[23:37] <Ariana> ok, have to reboot now, wish me luck
[23:37] <ii_> Have been using Ubuntu since 5.10 and there's been a common problem of BADSIGs when running apt-get update until 8.10 ... forums always have a number of posts about this error.  I recently found a webpage with a simple solution that works first time, every time.  Different to all of the other solutions posited out there.  Want to confirm with Ubuntu long-timers but no action on #ubuntu-devel - what channel should I go to?
[23:37] <Ariana> cause based on past experience, bad things happen upon reboot
[23:37] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: more experiended users such as myself,  get it  early and use development versions,  but that is not recommended to new users ever!  since bugs.   Have you done Kubuntu yet by the way?  How about Xubuntu?
[23:37] <pvtpete> ActionParsnip1: to the fstab file
[23:37] <pvtpete> ?
[23:38] <Time`s_Witness> none of them sebsebseb, however if im not wrong Kubuntu is KDE based.. or more recommended for KDE users. i dont like KDE. I like gnome :P
[23:38] <Time`s_Witness> dont know about Xubuntu
[23:39] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: you can automount network shares with fstab, if the system you are giving the new fstab to is only sharing folders then fstab is no part of that
[23:39] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: I don't like KDE4 as a GUI,  KDE3 was nice, but sadly they don't make that anymore :(  KDE3 been around for years very nice and stable.   it's not an option in 8.10 though from the repo.  can have both from repo in 8.04.   I do however like some of KDE's apps that I will run in Gnome :)   Xubuntu is like a light waight version of Gnome,  check it out
[23:40] <Time`s_Witness> hmm okay :) Thanks for the info sebsebseb. will take a look :P
[23:40] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: Xubuntu uses XFCE,  XFCE is only really a windowmanager/gui   however  if you do this in terminal:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  that will put  XFCE on as well as  nice apps such as Abiword,  which could be just run in Gnome or KDE anyway
[23:40] <mustangg> sebsebseb - is ext4 really ready? I thought that team discovered a serious data loss situation. fixed?
[23:40] <pvtpete> ActionParsnip1 : so not fstab then :)
[23:40] <sebsebseb> mustangg: yes I read about that, but  I think that's  nearly fixed now
[23:40] <Greencoat421> I'm looking for help creating an ethernet bridge, this is my setup: xbox 360<--wired connection-->Ubuntu Desktop<--wireless connection<--wireless router
[23:41] <Greencoat421> I've already tried brctl but it doesn't seem to work
[23:41] <sebsebseb> mustangg: find out more about Ext4  and Jaunty in  #ubuntu+1   ,because to much of that here, would be off topic
[23:41] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: no the config will be in /etc/samba/smb.conf if you use samba or wherever else if you use other sharing technologies
[23:41] <nubuntu> does anybody know about Back|Track 4?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip1> pvtpete: fstab is not used to configure folder sharing on a system
[23:41] <sebsebseb> nubuntu: yes,  not got it yet though
[23:42] <pvtpete> ok, Thanks a bunch ActionParsnip1 :)
[23:42] <pvtpete> I'll give it a go
[23:42] <Greencoat421> Can anyone help with the ethernet bridge?
[23:42] <Gnea> Greencoat421: what do you need the bridge for, exactly?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Time`s_Witness: heh I could tell you loads of good apps to install :)
[23:42] <Time`s_Witness> why doesn't my amsn plus show near clock anymore ? :S I Could "hide" it there instead of having it at "toolbar" lol
[23:42] <mustangg> sebsebseb think I will :)
[23:43] <Greencoat421> I'm looking for help creating an ethernet bridge, this is my setup: xbox 360<--wired connection-->Ubuntu Desktop<--wireless connection<--wireless router
[23:43] <Imahilus> I'm having network lag every now and again under ubuntu 8.10.. anybody have any idea why this is? or how to fix? searched quite a bit, couldn't find relevant topics
[23:43] <Gnea> Greencoat421: okay, you just repeated, which doesn't answer the question.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip1> Time`s_Witness: use alltray maybe
[23:43] <cached> so... what exactly does it mean if i get a seg fault on apt-get?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip1> cached: funky memory use usually
[23:44] <cached> ActionParsnip1: what can i do to fix it?
[23:44] <Greencoat421> Gnea: I have my xbox and ubuntu desktop in my room
[23:44] <Time`s_Witness> alltray is usefull =D Thanks ActionParsnip1
[23:44] <Greencoat421> right next to each other
[23:44] <zocker> Hi
[23:44] <ActionParsnip1> cached: try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[23:44] <the-newby> hy,all
[23:44] <ActionParsnip1> !fixapt
[23:44] <Gnea> Greencoat421: are you trying to assume that I'm suuposed to automatically understand what you're trying to do?
[23:44] <Greencoat421> the dekstop connects to a wireless router
[23:44] <Greencoat421> I want to share that connection with my xbox
[23:44] <ActionParsnip1> !ics
[23:44] <bertolo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1103472
[23:44] <Gnea> Greencoat421: then why do you need an ethernet bridge? why not just use NAT?
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Greencoat421: your in the wrong channel, unless you watn to run Ubuntu on your Xbox :D  which I think can be done yes
[23:45] <Greencoat421> because I don't know what I'm doing
[23:45] <bertolo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1103472
[23:45] <bertolo> comment plz
[23:45] <Gnea> okay, now we're getting somewhere
[23:45] <Greencoat421> all I want to do is connect to xbox live
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Gnea: he is off topic see
[23:45] <sebsebseb> Gnea: he is in wrong channel
[23:45] <Gnea> sebsebseb: incorrect.
[23:45] <Gnea> sebsebseb: he wants to use his ubuntu system to connect his 360 to the internet. that is not offtopic.
[23:46] <epc1> hello
[23:46] <sebsebseb> Gnea: ok I missed that bit, yep that's not off top ic
[23:46] <Greencoat421> the last person told me to use brctl
[23:46] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: 64bit linux can access terrabytes of ram
[23:46] <Greencoat421> but I think ndiswrapper is messing it up
[23:47] <Greencoat421> I know pretty much nothing about networking
[23:47] <sebsebseb> Greencoat421: Ndiswrapper is for  WIndows drivers
[23:47] <Gnea> Greencoat421: okay, first of all, you don't need an ethernet bridge for this. a much better guide (and detailed, at that) is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713874
[23:47] <nickolas> does xna studio work with mono?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: there is an open office repo which will give you latest open office
[23:47] <swayed> Anyone have a suggestion for a good virus app for ubuntu that has gui ? I would like to use it to check some windows apps I download before moving them to a usb tumb drive ? ?
[23:47] <sebsebseb> nickolas: maybe maybe not
[23:47] <sebsebseb> nickolas: try #mono
[23:47] <nickolas> okay
[23:47] <Greencoat421> ok I will read, and post if I run into any trouble
[23:47] <swayed> *thumb
[23:47] <anarchomaniac> anyone here good with ndiswrapper?
[23:47] <Imahilus> note: guildwars looks 'properly' under ubuntu, yet has blocky textures under windows.. and some say it shouldn't be considered platinum status....
[23:47] <anarchomaniac> if so please pm
[23:48] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, tell the repo, and i am using 32bits
[23:48] <sebsebseb> anarchomaniac: ndiswrapper
[23:48] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: i've never seen the busybox thing people go on about, remember to md5 check your iso's and also check your cds are consistant once burned
[23:48] <Gnea> Greencoat421: good luck (btw, I've used an ubuntu router to get a 360 to connect to the 'net, so I know that it works)
[23:48] <sebsebseb> anarchomaniac: should be a last resort.  native Linux drivers first if available :)
[23:48] <anarchomaniac> I know, but
[23:48] <anarchomaniac> i'm doing ndiswrapper until i can do that
[23:48] <Greencoat421> ok thanks GNea
[23:48] <anarchomaniac> i REALLY don't feel like doing the native thing right now
[23:48] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: 32bit OSes can only access 4Gb RAM (server can access slightly more)  2^32  do the maths
[23:48] <sebsebseb> anarchomaniac: ok Linux newbies
[23:48] <anarchomaniac> sebsebseb: can you help? i KNOW native is better :P
[23:49] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, lol my windowsxp can access more than 4gb
[23:49] <Gnea> Greencoat421: if it gets confusing, this might help as well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530623
[23:49] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: you can also instal any DEYou wish. gnome is default in Ubuntu but    ubuntu use kde, you can also instal fluxbox, lxde, enlightenment, Openbox
[23:49] <anarchomaniac_> okay
[23:50] <sebsebseb> anarchomaniac:  yeah maybe
[23:50] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, read my ps commentary
[23:50] <anarchomaniac_> i'm on gnome now :/
[23:50] <anarchomaniac_> wait
[23:50] <epc1> hello
[23:50] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: then its gonna use PAE or be 64bit
[23:50] <anarchomaniac_> let me close chatzilla
[23:50] <seanos_s> hi guys, trying to set up crontab... I have a bash script that works when run from the command line, I've added a line to crontab (using crontab -e) to run the script every minute, but its doing nothing. any ideas?
[23:50] <epc1> hi im a girl
[23:50] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1,  you are talking chinese to me
[23:50] <Hammerjak> seanos_s,  what does the cron entry look like?
[23:50] <bertolo> thats a ubuntu community big ishue
[23:50] <bertolo> issue
[23:50] <epc1> hello
[23:50] <sebsebseb> epc1: really???
[23:50] <seanos_s> 01 * * * * /home/sean/djcode/spanschools/hello_world.sh
[23:51] <epc1> anyone want to talk
[23:51] <the-newby> hy, since i am new to ubuntu, i am not sure , how to find out, which libraries are installed or not.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: this is my point, you've ranted on aforum but dont sem to be clued up so much
[23:51] <sebsebseb> epc1: I  think your a boy really
[23:51] <Hammerjak> seanos_s, doesn't that only run at the first minute of every hour?
[23:51] <seanos_s> Hammerjak: 01 * * * * /home/sean/djcode/spanschools/hello_world.sh
[23:51] <Hammerjak> seanos_s, i think you want 0-60 in that first field
[23:51] <seanos_s> hammerjak: great point
[23:51] <seanos_s> thanks
[23:51] <Hammerjak> np
[23:51] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: Ubuntu is hugely customisable and changable so most of what you have put can be overcome
[23:51] <the-newby> i like to install latest gambas2 , but certain libs are required.
[23:51] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, i am not clued and i used ubuntu for a long time. that's another issue
[23:52] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: you'l also find IBM and Dell are offering Linux systems and Netboks use it due toits small footprint
[23:52] <the-newby> may someone pls give me an idea , how to "read" installed libs ?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip1> the-newby: define "read"
[23:52] <bertolo> ActionParsnip1, that's one of the reasons why i love ubuntu so much
[23:53] <sebsebseb> !community |  bertolo
[23:53] <the-newby> ok, i want to find out, if the required libraries are installed already.
[23:53] <sebsebseb> bertolo: what's your problem?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip1> bertolo: its the same for all linux distros and BSDtoo
[23:53] <lifi_> hey, i just installed jaunty with fglrx and dual-head. got no problems, till i tried to activate xinerama. pc hangs up when it tries to start X. anyone in here with a working dual-head conf and could help me out
[23:53] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | lifi
[23:53] <the-newby> so i should "ask the system, about a list of installed libs, so i can compare..."
[23:53] <lifi_> ActionParsnip1, thx
[23:54] <sebsebseb> bertolo: Linux is about sharing code  and information
[23:54] <sebsebseb> bertolo: Linux  distributions are about sharing and being a community
[23:54] <jm> hola a todos
[23:54] <ActionParsnip1> the-newby: dpkg -l | grep lib
[23:54] <oCean_> the-newby: when installing from the repositories, all necessary dependencies are installed also
[23:54] <epc1> you guys ever talk
[23:54] <bertolo> sebastien, ineed :)
[23:55] <sebsebseb> bertolo: well  I  haven't seen most of the stuff  you said,  but seems you want to know  more about community?
[23:55] <bertolo> sebastien, indeed :)
[23:55] <epc1> you guys are stupid
[23:55] <oCean_> the-newby: just install gambas2 from the repos
[23:55] <the-newby> oh, very short, i will try right away, thx for the moment,bye for now.
[23:55] <the-newby> uupps,
[23:55] <sebsebseb> epc1: no we are amazing
[23:55] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: do you have an ubuntu question?
[23:55] <bertolo> sebastien,  i want to share my opinioon with u. lol
[23:55] <the-newby> no, sir,
[23:55] <epc1> you guys are bitches
[23:55] <the-newby> the version in the repos is overaged,,,
[23:55] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: are you going to be constructive or are you just here to troll?
[23:55] <the-newby> act-version=2.12
[23:55] <sebsebseb> epc1: ah yes I remember being 15
[23:56] <sebsebseb> epc1: years old
[23:56] <M4d3L> I have a memory problem with this script : http://paste2.org/p/169330 something in the loop is not wipe after each loop. end the script go out of memory after 1200 entry when I  have 7000 entry to loop.
[23:56] <the-newby> repo-vers: 2.7
[23:56] <epc1> what
[23:56] <epc1> your wierd
[23:56] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: do you have an ubuntu question?
[23:56] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip1: nope he is here to troll
[23:56] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: its YOU'RE weird
[23:56] <epc1> no
[23:56] <ActionParsnip1> epc1: if you must insult, use correct grammar
[23:56] <LjL> epc1, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[23:56] <M4d3L> miss channel
[23:57] <LjL> no? ok
[23:57] <John_OAS> epc1, there are far better IRC channels for mindless chat. This is cetainly not the place.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip1> LjL: i asked that too, maybe your packets are better than mine ;)
[23:57] <eseven3> OMG thank you ActionParsnip1 that "your" business drives me insane :)
[23:57] <ActionParsnip1> eseven3: its hilarious
[23:57] <sebsebseb> LjL:  thanks, and his trolling wasn't even funny
[23:58] <ActionParsnip1> eseven3: I usualy say: my weird what?, runs for a bus?
[23:58] <the-newby> @o¢ean: or do you have an reliable repo for 2.12 of Gambas ?
[23:58] <John_OAS> Can anyone suggest why my logins are failing from all consoles.  Disk space is fine.  Boot from live CD is fine.
[23:58] <melik> can i use fsck to check a NTFS filesystem?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip1> John_OAS: keyboard language maybe
[23:59] <rww> melik: no
[23:59] <melik> how can i fix a NTFS filesystem through linux?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip1> John_OAS: type your password as your username but dont press enter to check the chars display correctly
[23:59] <John_OAS> Action, wouldn't that give me a password fail message?