[11:03] <AWOSDev> and it sucked.
[11:04] <cpk2> AWOSDev: also AWOSDev using kaffeine and doing "play audio cd" plays the audio
[11:04] <intelikey> now it plays ?
[11:04] <AWOSDev> It came up 'new unmounted media!'
[11:04] <AWOSDev> Open?
[11:04] <AWOSDev> Do nothing?
[11:04] <cpk2> you can open if you want =P
[11:04] <AWOSDev> no Kaffeine options :)
[11:04] <AWOSDev> oops sorry
[11:04] <AWOSDev> I meant :(
[11:05] <intelikey> ignore and try to play it in a cdplayer app
[11:05] <AWOSDev> Is VLC okay?
[11:05] <intelikey> AWOSDev yah
[11:05] <AWOSDev> Ahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:05] <AWOSDev> Ahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:05] <AWOSDev> Ahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:05] <AWOSDev> Ahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:05] <LoRez> Warning: `AWOSDev' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[11:05] <AWOSDev> Okay fine
[11:05] <AWOSDev> shut up LoRez-bot :P
[11:06] <AWOSDev> anyway
[11:06] <AWOSDev> VLC died.
[11:06] <AWOSDev> completely.
[11:06] <AWOSDev> totally and honestly truly bluely died.
[11:06] <intelikey> !kscd
[11:06] <ubotu> kscd: audio CD player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 409 kB, installed size 892 kB
[11:06] <AWOSDev> I checked 'probe discs'
[11:06] <AWOSDev> and instantly without even hitting okay just as soon as I checked it
[11:06] <AWOSDev> BOOM!
[11:06] <AWOSDev> Not even an 'KDE crash handler'.
[11:07] <lz1gjd> how do i install a driver for this : 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 0e)
[11:08] <AWOSDev> i915 = super easy.
[11:08] <intelikey> 915 or 910 ?
[11:09] <AWOSDev> EXACT error:
[11:09] <AWOSDev> CD-ROM read or access error (or no audio disc in drive).
[11:09] <AWOSDev> Please make sure you have access permissions to:
[11:09] <AWOSDev>  /dev/cdrom
[11:09] <AWOSDev> ^^^from KsCD.
[11:10] <intelikey> lz1gjd you do an  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810   i would assume
[11:11] <intelikey> AWOSDev permissions  error because you are not in cdrom or media group   command    groups    and   ls -l /dev/cdrom
[11:12] <AWOSDev> users audio www-data backup admin
[11:12] <intelikey> follow the link in the ls output to the real device
[11:12] <AWOSDev> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-10-17 13:23 /dev/cdrom -> hdc
[11:12] <AWOSDev> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-10-17 13:23 /dev/hdc
[11:12] <AWOSDev> AW CRAP...
[11:12] <intelikey> cdrom group
[11:12] <AWOSDev> okay well thanks intelikey.
[11:13] <AWOSDev> I personally think it's dumb, but I know it's for security, that's why I'm not back on Windows.
[11:15] <AWOSDev> Okay if I sudo kscd will it work?
[11:15] <intelikey> :)
[11:16] <intelikey> kdesu is safer for gui apps.   but sudo will prolly work on that one.
[11:16] <AWOSDev> Okay
[11:16] <AWOSDev> Okay it says playing track 6
[11:16] <AWOSDev> my fav
[11:16] <AWOSDev> BUT...
[11:16] <AWOSDev> no sound :(
[11:17] <intelikey> possably sound is muted ?
[11:17] <AWOSDev> No
[11:17] <AWOSDev> 100%
[11:17] <AWOSDev> 100% across the board
[11:17] <AWOSDev> speakers turned on and up
[11:17] <AWOSDev> Oh yeah I almost forgot
[11:17] <AWOSDev> no analog audio
[11:18] <AWOSDev> No not that high up :)
[11:18] <AWOSDev> not at 5:17am anyway :)
[11:18] <intelikey> it's what you said.
 100% across the board
[11:18] <AWOSDev> I mean everythings at 100% on Kmix
[11:19] <AWOSDev> not the speakers, they're like 15-20
[11:19] <AWOSDev> but turning them up makes no difference.
[11:19] <intelikey> so do you have a sound issue that you need to address ?
[11:19] <AWOSDev> Yes.
[11:20] <AWOSDev> I do not have an audio thingy on the back of my DVD drive
[11:20] <AWOSDev> that plugs into the sound card?
[11:20] <AWOSDev> I can play it in Windows without it
[11:20] <AWOSDev> using 'digital CD audio playback'
[11:20] <intelikey> hmmm   so open the case and install one :)
[11:21] <intelikey> lz1gjd yes ?
[11:21] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[11:21] <AWOSDev> I mean
[11:21] <AWOSDev> the drive doesn't have one
[11:21] <AWOSDev> or else I would have already done that
[11:22] <AWOSDev> the past five times I've had the case open since installing the drive.
[11:22] <lz1gjd> well dont know the exact model, its integrated graphics, it seems to work but not in google earth
[11:22] <AWOSDev> As soon as I can get the bleeper of a 20GB backed up I can install my other CD drive.
[11:22] <AWOSDev> with a audio CD analog port thingy.
[11:22] <intelikey> oh.  then it shouldn't need one.  but i don't have a drive like that.
[11:23] <AWOSDev> intelikey, older mobo = needs one.
[11:23] <intelikey> ok.
[11:23] <AWOSDev> intelikey, just tell me straight: Can I use digital audio CD playback in Ubuntu Dapper?
[11:24] <AWOSDev> Linux NAMERICA1 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:24] <AWOSDev>  05:23:00 up 1 day, 12:00,  1 user,  load average: 0.46, 0.43, 0.64
[11:24] <AWOSDev> 0000:01:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive (rev 01)
[11:24] <intelikey> lz1gjd grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:24] <AWOSDev> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801AB IDE (rev 01)
[11:24] <AWOSDev> With a SONY DRU-710A DVD+RW drive.
[11:24] <AWOSDev> that's all my specs.
[11:24] <AWOSDev> Is it possible?
[11:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hi guys, there's no way of switching between view modes in konqueror? i mean, i usually use only details and icon mode.. but there's no shortcut for fast change between them available.. can you give me a hint?
[11:25] <intelikey> AWOSDev it is possable.   but don't even try to get me to dive into it.
[11:25] <AWOSDev> intelikey, why not?  :(
[11:25] <intelikey> AWOSDev cause it aint my turn to start lying
[11:26] <AWOSDev> intelikey, huh?  what?
[11:26] <AWOSDev> So it isn't possible?
[11:26] <intelikey> it is possible
[11:27] <lz1gjd> intelikey: says "i810"
[11:28] <intelikey> lz1gjd that's what it should say.   i don't know anything else to tell you.  i never used google earth
[11:28] <lz1gjd> ic, thx anyway
[11:28] <intelikey> np
[11:30] <AWOSDev> I can use Google Earth on my i810
[11:30] <AWOSDev> I didn't do anything special
[11:30] <intelikey> AWOSDev when you ask "is it possible"  you are not defining the ammount of work that would be acceptable nor the changes to the system that would constitute "too much"   it is "possible".
[11:30] <AWOSDev> Make sure it is *NOT* in OpenGL render mode.
[11:30] <AWOSDev> intelikey, I will reinstall Ubuntu if necessary.
[11:31] <AWOSDev> I will crack open the case and install a new motherboard.
[11:31] <AWOSDev> *ANYTHING*
[11:31] <intelikey> will you rewrite it ?
[11:31] <lz1gjd> ic, but opengl is the only option
[11:31] <AWOSDev> Rewrite what?
[11:31] <intelikey> part of the kernel
[11:31] <intelikey> :)
[11:32] <jende> dude: howdy, still alive?
[11:32] <AWOSDev> Ohohohoh
[11:32] <AWOSDev> lz1gjd, it has to be in OpenGL Software mode
[11:32] <AWOSDev> *not* hardware mode
[11:32] <AWOSDev> software mode..
[11:32] <lz1gjd> how do i do that
[11:33] <AWOSDev> lz1gjd, type just "googleearth" on the command line.  that's it
[11:33] <AWOSDev> Is there any error you get?
[11:34] <lz1gjd> none in the console
[11:34] <AWOSDev> on screen that is :)
[11:35] <AWOSDev> No there wouldn't be in the console
[11:35] <AWOSDev> Does it just never come up?
[11:35] <lz1gjd> how do i tell it to use soft rendering
[11:35] <AWOSDev> lz1gjd, it is the default.
[11:35] <AWOSDev> have you messed with it?
[11:35] <AWOSDev> if not, then it is already using software rendering.
[11:35] <lz1gjd> well it does, but it appears in the top part of the screen and when you move earth it leaves traces
[11:36] <lz1gjd> no, nothing
[11:36] <AWOSDev> Okay, your specs?
[11:36] <AWOSDev> hardware specs that is?
[11:36] <intelikey> i should start getting ready to leave.  i dislike these rotating schedules...............................
[11:36] <AWOSDev> intelikey, G'night :)
[11:36] <AWOSDev> intelikey, or is this work?
[11:36] <jende> intelikey: have fun though, whereever you may go to now
[11:36] <AWOSDev> in that case, G'day :)
[11:37] <AWOSDev> lz1gjd, what's your hardware specs again?
[11:37] <AWOSDev> Like memory?
[11:37] <AWOSDev> processor speed?
[11:37] <lz1gjd> well im not really sure, its not my, but it goes like this : cel 3.06ghz, 512mb ram, 80gb hdd, asrock with some intel integrated graphics
[11:38] <AWOSDev> You have an i810 in that thing?
[11:38] <AWOSDev> Google Earth doesn't look nice on that thing?
[11:38] <lz1gjd> nope ;(
[11:39] <jende> lz1gjd: it looks fine on my old HP Kayak PIII-550 and just 256Megs
[11:40] <jende> lz1gjd: it seems to be that you might have messed your system somehow
[11:40] <lz1gjd> should try mess with xorg.conf to make use soft opengl, but how exactly
[11:40] <jende> !xorg
[11:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:40] <lz1gjd> havent touched anything in xorg except for changing some resolutions
[11:41] <jende> lz1gjd: have a look at the link
[11:41] <jende> AWOSDev: quite unreal that is, isn't it
[11:42] <cpk2> any kopete masters here?
[11:42] <lz1gjd> well it talks about fixing screen resolutions, i think my problem is different
[11:42] <AWOSDev> jende, yeah my i810 is in a Compaq Presario 5700N Celeron-500 and 256M RAM.
[11:42] <AWOSDev> lz1gjd, pretend I never said anything about software rendering...that is if your computer is 5+ years old.
[11:42] <AWOSDev> You are *fine*
[11:46] <lz1gjd> seems the problem is not only with google earth but with any opengl based application
[11:49] <bioticpro> anyone here use knemo?  I can't get it to load (kde 3.5.5)
[11:52] <joscha> anyone tried flash9 beta? it seems to play flashmovies very slow
[11:54] <cpk2> so no kopete "power users"?
[11:54] <AWOSDev> cpk2, no I use Konversation myself.
[11:55] <cpk2> this is for IM
[11:55] <cpk2> i use konv for irc
[11:55] <JohnFlux> cpk2: ask don't ask to ask.  also try #kopete
[11:55] <cpk2> #kopete is silent
[11:56] <nuku> joscha: any particular one? it seems to work fine here..
[11:56] <bioticpro> What is a good network monitor applet for kde?  I was using knetload, until 3.5.5, don't like the new version
[11:56] <joscha> nuku: tried again... myvideo.com is very slow, youtube is normal
[11:56] <cpk2> well does anyone know if you can add "user info" for yourself? like in AIM/GAIM you can add your user info
[11:58] <cpk2> bioticpro: I use gkrellm to monitor everything
[11:59] <nuku> joscha: myvideo.com?
[11:59] <bioticpro> cpk2: Im looking for something that will sit in the system tray
[11:59] <joscha> oh myvideo.de
[11:59] <nuku> joscha: seems to work here too.. hmmm
[12:00] <joscha> nuku: i have no sound too... perhaps thats the problem
[12:00] <nuku> joscha: maybe.. but flash9 is supposed to use alsa... do you start firefox with aoss wrapper (that should not be needed anymore)?
[12:04] <markey> hey guys
[12:04] <markey> just tried the latest edgy daily iso on my new box
[12:04] <markey> keyboard and mouse don't work at all :(
[12:05] <cpk2> !edgy
[12:05] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[12:05] <markey> with dapper keyboard and mouse also didn't work right. locked up randomly
[12:05] <markey> any ideas?
[12:12] <cpk2> or how about this, how does konversation handle /exec media?
[12:13] <AWOSDev> Konversation can do /media.
[12:13] <zorglu_> what is the purpose of this '/media' command ?
[12:14] <zorglu_> cpk2: btw i got 'userinfo' in kopete.
[12:14] <zorglu_> i mean i got a menu named like this at least :)
[12:14] <cpk2> zorglu_: how?
[12:14] <cpk2> zorglu_: I want to set my own user info
[12:14] <zorglu_> cpk2: oh i was talking about the one from your 'buddy'
[12:15] <cpk2> zorglu_: I like kopetes /media command, but thats about the only thing that makes me want to use it over gaim right now
[12:16] <zorglu_> cpk2: about your own userinfo, apparently you are right... i mean i fails to find how to modify it too
[12:16] <zorglu_> and what this '/media' command do ?
[12:16] <cpk2> zorglu_: 2 things making me not want to use kopete: cant have my own user info and it lists groups alphabetically
[12:16] <cpk2> it does that
[12:16] <zorglu_> ah ok
[12:17] <zorglu_> i understand your point
[12:17] <zorglu_> you may try to ask on #kopete...
[12:17] <cpk2> its silent
[12:18] <zorglu_> maouaouauoua :)
[12:18] <zorglu_> im listening to 32 :)
[12:18] <zorglu_> this is correct tho :) but i find it fun :)
[12:19] <zorglu_> i start to understand the interest in dcop/dbus concept
[12:19] <AWOSDev> Hehe :
[12:19] <AWOSDev> ")
[12:20] <cpk2> so i wanted to know how konversation handled /exec media so maybe i could get it to work in gaim
[12:20] <zorglu_> cpk2: hue ?
[12:20] <joscha> cpk2: its a script
[12:20] <AWOSDev> cpk2, GAIM = GNOME, with no understanding of DCOP.
[12:20] <cpk2> booo
[12:20] <zorglu_> cpk2: when i type /media under conversation, it does the job
[12:21] <cpk2> oh ok
[12:21] <cpk2> so it does
[12:21] <cpk2> well /exec media does the job too =P
[12:21] <AWOSDev> Hehe :)
[12:21] <AWOSDev> Yep :)
[12:21] <AWOSDev> joscha is not a native English speaker :)
[12:21] <cpk2> nope, never heard of those guys =)
[12:21] <thoreauputic> ...just what we needed - more channel spam ;-)
[12:22] <joscha> cpk2: so whats your problem?
[12:22] <AWOSDev> Mmm nice.
[12:22] <cpk2> joscha: well I was hoping i could find a way to have gaim have a /media command
[12:22] <cpk2> since kopete is lacking in too many areas for me
[12:22] <AWOSDev> cpk2, just use IRC :x
[12:22] <zorglu_> about konversation, is it possible to forward the output of a local command to the channel ?
[12:22] <joscha> look in the media script... its just a dcop call
[12:23] <joscha> zorglu_: yes but i won't tell you ;)
[12:23] <AWOSDev> joscha, oh come on :)
[12:23] <zorglu_> on old irc client, "/exec -o id" wasable to do it
[12:23] <zorglu_> mouaoua your little secret :)
[12:23] <cpk2> AWOSDev: not everyone I talk to even knows what irc is
[12:23] <AWOSDev> cpk2 hehe
[12:24] <AWOSDev> DCOP Error: Could not find script -o.
[12:25] <joscha> /exec cmd
[12:25] <joscha> /exec cmd "echo "test""
[12:25] <joscha> test
[12:25] <AWOSDev> DCOP Error: Command @ARGV doesn't exist!
[12:25] <AWOSDev> Linux NAMERICA1 2.6.15-23-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:25] <joscha> without the qoutes
[12:25] <AWOSDev> there it is
[12:25] <zorglu_> uid=1000(jerome) gid=1000(jerome) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),111(admin),1000(jerome)
[12:25] <joscha> /exec cmd echo "test"
[12:25] <zorglu_> here we go :)
[12:25] <AWOSDev> yeah I found that :)
[12:26] <AWOSDev>  06:24:58 up 1 day, 13:02,  1 user,  load average: 2.06, 1.77, 1.30
[12:26] <AWOSDev> uhoh, that was bad idea
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810 DC-100 GMCH [Graphics Memory Controller Hub]  (rev 02)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810 DC-100 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 02)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AB PCI Bridge (rev 01)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AB ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 01)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801AB IDE (rev 01)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801AB USB (rev 01)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801AB SMBus (rev 01)
[12:26] <cpk2> rofl
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:01:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive (rev 01)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:01:08.0 Serial controller: Rockwell International HCF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:01:09.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc RTL8139 Ethernet (rev 10)
[12:26] <AWOSDev> 0000:01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone]  (rev 30)
[12:26] <joscha> why did i tell you?
[12:26] <cpk2> ARGV
[12:26] <AWOSDev> lspci :P
[12:26] <zorglu_> well a dangerous tool
[12:27] <joscha> well know we know everything about you and your computer
[12:27] <AWOSDev> Hehe yep :)
[12:27] <joscha> -k
[12:27] <AWOSDev> don't know my name :)
[12:27] <joscha> AWOSDev: sure! your UID!
[12:27] <zorglu_> http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/konvi-cmds.html <- to get all the konversation command
[12:27] <AWOSDev> where?
[12:28] <joscha> oh it was zorglu_s....
[12:28] <cpk2> hmm /exec cmd "uname -u" doesnt work
[12:28] <MadRabbit> hi all, just installed kubuntu (yes, a noob)...if I run adept I can select pkgs, but once I click "fetch updates", I see a flash of a progress bar, a list of pkgs i selected(along w/links) but what do I do next? they don't show in the programs list.
[12:28] <cpk2> and by -u i mean -a
[12:29] <zorglu_> hmm i think we should do some basic konversation script and put them in the repository
[12:29] <joscha> Linux joscha-desktop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:29] <joscha> works?!
[12:29] <joscha> without the qoutes @ cpk2
[12:30] <cpk2> tells me @argv doesnt exist
[12:30] <joscha> /exec cmd uname -a
[12:30] <cpk2> Linux snoresqueeze 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 02:13:27 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:30] <cpk2> rofl i was still typoing
[12:30] <cpk2> ahahaha
[12:31] <cpk2> i was still do -u for some reason
[12:32] <zorglu_> like "/tokubuntupastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list" will execute the "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and send it to a pastebin, gather the url and output the message "the result of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' is at http://pastebin.example.com/12345"
[12:32] <zorglu_> i like this idea, would make the help a lot more efficient
[12:32] <zorglu_> joscha: is it easy to create a .deb which add script to konversation ?
[12:33] <joscha> zorglu_: it should be quite easy... easier then writing the script ;)
[12:33] <zorglu_> just have to find a pastebin which works with rpcxml or similar :)
[12:34] <zorglu_> the only 'hard' part is the autoamtic posting and get the url back
[12:35] <AWOSDev> snoresqueeze?
[12:35] <joscha> automatic posting should be not to difficult, just add the nickname and the pastecontent to the url
[12:37] <AWOSDev> Okay guys, bedtime.
[12:37] <AWOSDev> G'night all
[12:38] <joscha> pastebin doesn't work for me atm
[12:39] <BadRabbit320> hi all, just installed kubuntu (yes, a noob)...if I run adept I can select pkgs, but once I click "fetch updates", I see a flash of a progress bar, a list of pkgs I selected(along w/links) but what do I do next? they don't show in the programs list. have I missed something?
[12:41] <joscha> BadRabbit320: fetch updates doesn't install the tools you selected
[12:41] <joscha> select the tools you want (right click - request install)
[12:42] <joscha> and then click Apply changes
[12:42] <zorglu_> 'fetch updates' update the list of the package available to the list below
[12:42] <joscha> fetch updates only gets the list of tools avaible in the repositorys
[12:43] <BadRabbit320> joscha  ok, thanks for your help!
[12:43] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: also you can use apt-get via the command line
[12:43] <joscha> "sudo apt-get install <packagename>" for installing
[12:43] <cpk2> it is an easy way to make you more comfortable on the command line
[12:44] <BadRabbit320> but to use apt-get; don't I need the exact name of a pkg?
[12:44] <cpk2> and it tends to output more if there is something it tell you
[12:44] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: yes and no
[12:44] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: you can do apt-cache search
[12:44] <zorglu_> apt-cache search partofthenameyouarelookingfo
[12:44] <joscha> BadRabbit320: you can search for packages in the command line with apt-cache search
[12:44] <cpk2> and tab complete works with apt-get install
[12:45] <joscha> tab completion works? huh i have to try!
[12:45] <zorglu_> really there is tab completion ?
[12:45] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: you mean to tell me you are perusing 18k plus of packages in adept?
[12:45] <zorglu_> cool :)
[12:45] <joscha> cool works it in bash too? i use zsh?
[12:45] <jende> anyone here who is on edgy?
[12:45] <joscha> jende: yep
[12:46] <jende> have you made an upgrade today?
[12:46] <cpk2> tab completion works as long as apt-cache search can find it
[12:46] <joscha> yes but i didn't restart since then
[12:46] <jende> joscha:how many upgradable packages did you get? I just got abou 300 *g*
[12:47] <jende> joscha: but haven't restarted either
[12:47] <joscha> jende: far not so much... about 20
[12:47] <cpk2> i upgraded 285 just to go from kde .4 to .5
[12:47] <jende> cpk2: same as here
[12:48] <joscha> i already hab .5
[12:48] <elias_> What I don't understand: I run xorg with nvidia on EDGY and get "direct rendering: Yes". Then I enable xgl and suddenly I get "direct rendering: No" with the same xorg.conf!
[12:48] <jende> joscha: already hatte schon the .5 *ggg*
[12:48] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 'fraid so...(noobs don't know an easier way...yes, __itloads of pkgs (most of which don't make sense to me)
[12:48] <joscha> *g*
[12:49] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: why doesnt that make sense to you?
[12:49] <MistaED> elias_: that's perfectly normal, Xgl is using the Xglx backend which is a hack, Xegl should address this or if you want, use AIGLX instead
[12:49] <jende> joscha: so where abut in Deutschland do you wohn?
[12:49] <jende> joscha: so where about in Deutschland do you wohn?
[12:49] <cpk2> aptitude is how you should pretty much only be getting apps
[12:49] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 some of the pkgs don't make sense to me
[12:50] <joscha> jende: Koblenz and Mainz
[12:50] <jende> joscha: okay, Rinteln sdl Hannover
[12:50] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: well some are for VERY specific purposes
[12:51] <joscha> BadRabbit320: you should only install the ones you need ;)
[12:51] <cpk2> i have heard that vacuum cleaner in german is a really long wierd
[12:51] <joscha> cpk2: wierd?
[12:51] <cpk2> word
[12:51] <cpk2> hrmm maybe i should go to sleep
[12:51] <joscha> Vakuum Staubsauger
[12:52] <cpk2> thats not longer
[12:52] <jende> cpk2: Staubsauger
[12:52] <jende> cpk2: but we have Beutelstaubsauger und Zyklonstaubsauger
[12:52] <cpk2> psh and people always say its one of those words that has tons of unds (ands?)
[12:52] <cpk2> thats a bit longer =P
[12:53] <BadRabbit320> joscha so i should use the "apt-get' procedure rather than the "adept mgr"
[12:53] <jende> BadRabbit320: I'd say so
[12:53] <elias_> MistaED: what is Xegl? And I would like to but can't use AIGLX because I have a turbocache card, which don't work right yet with the beta drivers!
[12:54] <joscha> BadRabbit320: no, you can use what you want, when you want to quick install a package apt-get is faster
[12:54] <jende> joscha: apt is just nicer and faster and my darling *ggg*
[12:54] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: I was just saying that using apt-get might make you feel more secure with the command line
[12:54] <MistaED> elias_: ok, Xegl is a future Xgl which isn't really supported at all yet
[12:54] <joscha> i just tried beryl... i need a new computer ;)
[12:55] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: its always a good idea to familiarize yourself with command line, just in case x wont start one day =)
[12:55] <BadRabbit320> joscha ok, so is there a "shorter version of how to find the ones I want, or will the "apt-cache" routine above work?
[12:55] <jende> joscha: beryl just killed recently a friends computer
[12:56] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: apt-cache search iamlookingforthis will work but adept also has a filter if you would rather use that
[12:56] <jende> joscha: it was a bit of a hassle to get that box back to live
[12:56] <elias_> Anyhow, how come XGL works perfectly in dapper but does not work the same way in edgy?
[12:56] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: its all about what you want
[12:57] <cpk2> you could even use synaptic if you wanted to
[12:57] <joscha> just waiting for the memory prices to fall again too buy a new PC
[12:58] <MistaED> elias_: what's different about it?
[12:58] <BadRabbit320> joscha I just REselected the few pkgs I wanted thru adept, but even after clicking "apply changes"; same thing...flash, progress, but nothing new in the programs list...
[12:59] <joscha> are the packages installed? you can see this in adept
[12:59] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: right click on teh kmenu and go to menu editor then save it without doing anything
[12:59] <elias_> MistaED: In dapper XGL+compiz is fast and does not use my CPU in edgy XGL+beryl is slow and makes my CPU go wild!
[12:59] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 wanted diff themes to play around in and a few games (none were in the install)
[01:00] <jende> elias_: these are, AFAIR, known issues with beryl
[01:00] <MistaED> elias_: maybe it's all those bloated plugins enabled in beryl
[01:00] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: none were in the install? what did you just try to install?
[01:01] <cpk2> in the bottom left of adept it says how many is being installed/upgraded/removed btw
[01:01] <jende> !schedule
[01:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[01:02] <cpk2> ohh just found out you can search by pointing your browser to apt:/
[01:02] <joscha> cpk2: woooaaahhhh
[01:03] <cpk2> kde only =D
[01:03] <elias_> what should I have under [server-Xgl]  in gdm.conf-custom for nvidia?
[01:04] <cpk2> ok thats it I am getting gdb
[01:04] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, menu editor saved, games showed up, but not themes.
[01:04] <cpk2> i have had it with konq crashing so much
[01:04] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: what kind of themes?
[01:06] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: actually go to kmenu run command... and run kcontrol
[01:06] <pansy> hi fans
[01:07] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: btw remember to save that menu thing everytime you get apps that should show up in the kmenu
[01:07] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 not complete themes, mainly different cursors (I'm legally blind, the cursor that came in kubuntu is hard for me to see/find most of the time)
[01:08] <jende> pansy: howdy
[01:09] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: cursor themes?
[01:09] <cpk2> its in the mouse section
[01:09] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, saving the menu is now in black&white and stuck in my head.
[01:09] <magicmike> Completely new user and completely confused.
[01:09] <jende> magicmike: what confuses you?
[01:10] <cpk2> there is also a zoom app that zooms whatever is around the mouse
[01:10] <magicmike> Just getting started with this op sys. Printer doesn't work, cd drives don't mount, mp3 won't play.
[01:11] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: kmag in utilities in the kmenu
[01:11] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: might interest you?
[01:11] <magicmike> Is the root password the same password you use to log on?
[01:11] <cpk2> magicmike: for mp3
[01:11] <cpk2> oops
[01:11] <iordanis> hello
[01:11] <jende> magicmike: for mp3's you have to have in your sources.list multiverse universe enabled to get the extracodecs
[01:11] <cpk2> for mp3's do apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:12] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 i have a cursor i made years ago (in Windows) that I would like to use, but not enough experience in linux to make my own cursor or to transport my old one in to linux
[01:12] <jende> magicmike: next...what printer is it?
[01:13] <jende> magicmike: the root password is usually the same, unless you've changed it
[01:13] <iordanis> newbie here ... need help ... for Kubuntu regarding Greek menu support
[01:13] <magicmike> It's a Lexmark X5250/
[01:13] <iordanis> anyone interested helping me?
[01:13] <iordanis> :D
[01:13] <cpk2> icoutils - Create and extract MS Windows icons and cursors
[01:13] <jende> iordanis: have a look here
[01:13] <jende> !GR
[01:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[01:13] <jende> magicmike: hold on a sec
[01:14] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: I have no experience with doing that but icoutils would be a good place to start =)
[01:14] <iordanis> #kubuntu-gr den einai kaneis ekei mesa kai esteila emails se olous :P
[01:14] <magicmike> Thanks.
[01:14] <cpk2> big-cursor - larger mouse cursors for X
[01:15] <iordanis> I tried kubuntu-gr but no one is available for help there PLUS I emailed most of them (they have a site named in there) but no reply so far :)
[01:15] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 just did a srch for kmag; not there...
[01:15] <iordanis> I REALLY like to use Kubuntu and I am using it right now ;)
[01:16] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: try sudo apt-get install kmag
[01:16] <iordanis> btw I tried to get updates by using apt-get but nothing happened ...
[01:16] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, trying now...
[01:16] <iordanis> anyone to help this lonely Kubuntu greek user? :(
[01:16] <cpk2> iordanis: I have a feeling  most everyone here doesnt have greek menus...
[01:17] <magicmike> Now I know why Bill Gates is so rich.
[01:17] <jende> magicmike: the 5250 is an allin printer, isn't it and sort of brandnew
[01:17] <iordanis> Bill Gates is SO rich because majority of people are SO poor in computing knowledge
[01:17] <cpk2> iordanis: it would be sudo apt-get update and then after that sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:18] <jende> iordanis: what is the prob, maybe i can help
[01:18] <iordanis> I would like to use Kubuntu with greek menus ... I am fine with english but my father knows only greek :(
[01:18] <magicmike> Only so poor because there is always steps skipped when giving instruction. Like the saying goes, never assume anything.
[01:19] <iordanis> and we plan to use ONLY Kubuntu and not Windows in this family ;)
[01:19] <magicmike> It's a couple years old jende.
[01:19] <cpk2> language-support-el - metapackage for Greek, Modern language support
[01:20] <cpk2> iordanis: try to apt-get install language-support-el
[01:20] <iordanis> aha trying now ! :D
[01:20] <jende> magicmike: okay and what is the prob? It didn't get recognized? or is the prob that you like to use another feature i.e. scanne?
[01:22] <magicmike> It gets recognized, but when it goes to install it only shows drivers for other Lexmark products.
[01:22] <magicmike> The one it recommends does not work with the printer.
[01:22] <iordanis> @cpk2 it keeps telling me unable to locate the package ... btw I added sudo to the command, right?
[01:22] <jende> magicmike: whichone is recommended?
[01:22] <CarD> hello all
[01:22] <magicmike> As far as the Hello.
[01:23] <magicmike> Hello. card
[01:23] <iordanis> hello to all btw :)
[01:23] <CarD> I have a problem whith "shift+backspace" ... how desable this fonction?
[01:23] <CarD> with :(
[01:23] <CarD> sorry
[01:23] <bernabe> hallo
[01:23] <cpk2> iordanis: yes
[01:23] <magicmike> If there are no other users am I by default the root?
[01:23] <jende> magicmike: whichone is recommended?
[01:24] <jende> magicmike: nope, you are default the user
[01:24] <jende> magicmike: to become root you have use sudo <command>
[01:24] <magicmike> The 5000. Okay. Then what is necessary to become the root?
[01:25] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, "sudo apt-get install kmag", hit enter, nothing.  just checked for kmag...not there.
[01:25] <magicmike> Okay. Let me give it a try.
[01:25] <iordanis> @cpk2 bwt I downloaded "file:///home/iordanis/Desktop/language-support-el_6.06+20060529_all.deb" which is using the application (I assume that) Ark to open but it says something about not being in PATH...
[01:25] <jende> magicmike: good example is sudo apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs
[01:25] <jende> magicmike: you'll be asked the for a password
[01:26] <CarD> I have a problem with "shift+backspace" ... how desable this fonction?
[01:26] <cpk2> iordanis: if you want to install that .deb you can but it is probably recommended to use the one from the repos
[01:27] <CarD> please help meeeeeeeeeeeee :)
[01:27] <CarD> I reboot my server X 5 or 6 per days :/
[01:28] <iordanis> @cpk2 well that was a desperate move on my part, let me tell you that ;)
[01:28] <CarD> because "shift+bakspace" on kde
[01:28] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 i put "sudo apt-get install kmag" in the "run" dialog box, correct?
[01:29] <Joel-Wideman> Hi. When I start kicker, I get the "X Error: BadWindow" error and the taskbar disappears. Anyone know what the deal is? The problem appeared to have occured spontaneously.
[01:29] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 without the quotes, of course...
[01:29] <jende> magicmike: what if you select the 5700
[01:29] <jende> magicmike: what if you select the 5700?
[01:29] <magicmike> OOkay jende. I had forgotten that command following the sudo part.  It's installing the extra packages you told me with apt-get install libxine-extracodecs.
[01:29] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: that might work but i would just open konsole from kmenu > system
[01:31] <Windwalker> Anybody printed over xp HOME from kde?
[01:31] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, did i mention I'm blonde, too?
[01:31] <jende> magicmike: the printter should have come along with a Linuxdriver, so why don't you use that one?
[01:32] <magicmike> Okay jende, I'll try the 5700 and see what gives.
[01:32] <jende> magicmike: the printter should have come along with a Linuxdriver, so why don't you use that one?
[01:32] <Joel-Wideman> Windwalker, is there a reason you can't have the linux box be the print server instead?
[01:32] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: just do konsole in the run dialog box =P
[01:32] <Windwalker> nope the printing machine is a terminal server
[01:32] <cpk2> then do sudo apt-get install kmag
[01:32] <magicmike> Let me check myand see if I can find the disc.
[01:32] <iordanis> @cp2k I am guessing here that too many people burning your brain and fingers but I also guess that no one else can help me now :( So, I recap... after typing this "sudo apt-get install language-support-el" on Terminal w/out quotes I get the message that it cannot locate the file ... in E: ???? drive or something? Is it possible that my Kubuntu needs somehow to change this in order to get files from the 'net?
[01:32] <Windwalker> Joel-Wideman: the client is in another town
[01:33] <Windwalker> not for the tests of course but at later moment
[01:33] <iordanis> to be more specific the message is this : "E:      language-support-el"
[01:34] <Windwalker> Gnome has no issues with XP home printing :(
[01:34] <cpk2> iordanis: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:35] <chrisX`> hi, how can i tweak my kubuntu.. at the moment its absolutely standart .. plz give me some tips for more performance :) !
[01:35] <iordanis> how can I do that? my knowledge in Linux is pale to say the least
[01:35] <chrisX`> i am using also i686
[01:35] <cpk2> !pastebin
[01:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:36] <cpk2> iordanis: do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list and post it at that pastebin website
[01:36] <Joel-Wideman> !samba
[01:36] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:36] <magicmike> jende, the disc only shows drivers for win 9x and win xp.
[01:37] <Windwalker> anbody made printing from kde to xp home. This is preventing me from migrating to KDE :(
[01:37] <kryptoz> Hi all
[01:37] <Windwalker> hi
[01:37] <magicmike> Hi
[01:38] <kryptoz> have a doubt.. new to *buntu
[01:38] <magicmike> Join the club.
[01:38] <kryptoz> why after me installing KDE the boot up logo says "Kubuntu" ?
[01:38] <chrisX`> hi, how can i tweak my kubuntu.. at the moment its absolutely standart .. plz give me some tips for more performance :) !
[01:38] <iordanis> done!
[01:38] <kryptoz> how do i change it back to Ubuntu ?
[01:38] <iordanis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27316/
[01:38] <magicmike> Hopefully one day we'll be ble to help other hapless peeps like ourselves.
[01:38] <jende> magicmike: just read it, lexmark took the driver off the discs; even if the announced to ship a linuxdriver with the cd
[01:38] <Joel-Wideman> I don't know what gnome does differently, Windwalker, but you may need to use samba.
[01:39] <chrisX`> kryp: ubuntu with kde is actually kubuntu ^^, why do you install kde on an ubunt
[01:39] <elias_> When I run kde apps on XGL in gnome I have some distortion left of my window buttons on the top right.
[01:39] <chrisX`> kryptoz:
[01:39] <elias_> where does that come from, and how can I get rid of it?
[01:39] <kryptoz> chrisX`: why do i install kde ? cuz kde looks better in my laptop display
[01:39] <Windwalker> I use kde print manager the same way I use gnome's print manager and it will not work untill I do not set permissions on the xp side
[01:40] <kryptoz> but no matter what i choose it always shows Kubuntu logo.
[01:40] <kryptoz> the blue color is not looking good while i boot up/
[01:40] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 from konsole; sudo apt-get install kmag gives a result of: it cannot locate the file ...
[01:40] <chrisX`> kryptoz: ah you want to switch between gnome and kubuntu ? hm
[01:40] <elias_> Ok, it seems to be an unmapped help button (unmapped in the sence of, there is no image for it in the beryl skin)
[01:41] <CarD> I have a problem with "shift+backspace" ... how desable this fonction?
[01:41] <CarD> because "shift+bakspace" on kde
[01:41] <CarD> please help meeeeeeeeeeeee :)
[01:41] <Joel-Wideman> I don't know enough about gnome, but my guess is that it sets up samba for you automatically. KDE does not, AFAIK.
[01:41] <Windwalker> Joel-Wideman: I am using samba of course...but no luck with anonymous or guest logging to xp home
[01:41] <chrisX`> kryptoz:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:41] <kryptoz> no no .. when i first installed *buntu. while boot up it shows "Ubuntu" logo with a reddish brown color theme
[01:41] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: try doing "kmag"
[01:41] <Windwalker> I see
[01:41] <Joel-Wideman> Oh, I see....
[01:41] <kryptoz> chrisX`: thanx
[01:41] <cpk2> just plain old kmag
[01:42] <arejaytee> how do i make kubuntu scan for new hardware? if there is such a thing?
[01:42] <Joel-Wideman> if you're already using samba then i'm at a loss, Windwalker
[01:42] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: nevermind I see kmag is in universe
[01:42] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 plain old kmag where?
[01:42] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: in konsole
[01:43] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: but i dont think you will have it =) and arent we getting sidetracked from getting your mouse cursor imported? =P
[01:43] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 universe doesn't show in my repositories list...
[01:43] <iordanis> @cpk2 this is the link for my pastebin, no? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27316/
[01:43] <Windwalker> youp I am using sambe and KDE print manager offers me to choose from anonymous, guest and some account, but none of the three will let XP spool correctly under HOME
[01:43] <Windwalker> :(
[01:43] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 will try it in konsole
[01:44] <Joel-Wideman> but gnome doesn't have that problem?
[01:44] <Windwalker> at all
[01:44] <Windwalker> printed to more than 5 different printers from Dapper 6.06
[01:44] <iordanis> @cp2k from what I get I must clear the "#" infront of the lines or some lines in that sources.list in order to access the internet for updates?
[01:44] <cpk2> iordanis: exactly! =)
[01:45] <iordanis> so what do I clear? :P
[01:45] <iordanis> all? OO :$
[01:45] <Windwalker> I used Kubuntu 6.10 a month ago for similar test over XP pro and everything was OK only after I set user permissions on the XP pro side
[01:45] <cpk2> #deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted and #deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted should get you what you want
[01:45] <cpk2> so delete the # from those 2
[01:45] <iordanis> aha trying ;)
[01:45] <arejaytee> ive got a wireless pcmia card but its not picking it up
[01:45] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 "kmag' in konsole results in "command not found..."
[01:45] <cpk2> iordanis: do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:46] <jende> magicmike: bad news for you
[01:46] <magicmike> Stupid question #1 What is this sources.list and where do you find it?
[01:46] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: its not installed =)
[01:46] <Joel-Wideman> ah ha... then i would say it's not kde, but your particular setup this time around, Windwalker
[01:46] <jende> magicmike: the soources list is in /etc/apt
[01:46] <jende> magicmike: the sources list is in /etc/apt
[01:46] <Windwalker> Joel-Wideman: what do you mean I tried all three choices without any positive result
[01:47] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: ok if you want kmag (which enlarges a section of the screen that your mouse is over) you will need to enable the universe repository
[01:47] <Windwalker> where am I wrong?
[01:47] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 so...find it in adept and try it since sudo apt-get didn't work?
[01:47] <jende> magicmike: you printer should work either wit the 5000 or 5700 driver iif it doesn't...errm...you'll be screwed with this printer
[01:47] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: adept is the same as apt-get
[01:47] <magicmike> Stupid question #2 How do you get to it?
[01:47] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: one second let me fire up adept to see how to add repos for it
[01:47] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok
[01:48] <jende> magicmike: what do you want to do with the sources.list?
[01:48] <magicmike> Okay. I just install the 5700 and am going toi try to print.
[01:48] <cpk2> magicmike: if you want to edit it do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list from a command line
[01:48] <Joel-Wideman> If I understand you correctly, Windwalker, you used kubuntu to print a month ago, but this time around you can't. Is the windows box set up differently?
[01:48] <arejaytee> whats the shortcut to get the kill command so u can click on a program to kill it
[01:49] <iordanis> @cp2k do I have to restart or something?
[01:49] <cpk2> iordanis: do sudo apt-get update
[01:49] <Windwalker> nope I said a month ago I printed successfully over xp PRO and now I am trying the same thing over HOME. As I said PRO refused to print unless there are share permissions on at least one folder. You know user+password
[01:50] <cpk2> iordanis: then try to install the language pack again
[01:50] <magicmike> Just trying to learn this op sys and anything that has to do with it. I downloaded some tarballs (firewall, java, etc) and need to install them. Do I have to create a directory or folder for each?
[01:50] <Administrator> hello I installed a new kernel version 2.6.15 but when I boot it doesn see my network card anymore
[01:50] <jende> magicmike: nope
[01:50] <iordanis> @cpk2 u rock man! it seems to be working ;)
[01:50] <Windwalker> under Home I cannot set permission if you are familiar with HOME
[01:50] <cpk2> magicmike: you can apt-get java and firewall apps
[01:50] <Joel-Wideman> Ah ha!
[01:50] <Windwalker> stupid but fact...:(
[01:50] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: alright go to view and then manage repositories
[01:50] <jende> magicmike: you didn't have zo download tars at all; you may want to do that using apt
[01:50] <SlimG> Anyone?: i've unpacked a *.deb with ARK, is there a command to repack the folder to a *.deb?
[01:51] <iordanis> and just noticed (how dumb can I be? :P) that I was writing ur name wrong :P ;)))) cpk2 ;)))
[01:51] <frederix51> Installed KUBUNTU on a DUAL CORE P2,8 (820;smithfield), together with WIN XP SP2,DUAL BOOT, 2 hd's, problems with loading pages, they are too fast timed out,  so I have to constantly RELOAD, a page.Who knows a solution, NOT a experienced LINUX USER, just trying out and being enthousiastic, about it.
[01:51] <Windwalker> Joel-Wideman: can you suggest something?
[01:51] <Administrator> hello I installed a new kernel version 2.6.15 but when I boot it doesn see my network card anymore
[01:51] <Joel-Wideman> Now, can you use gnome to print on xp home without setting the permission?
[01:51] <Windwalker> aha
[01:51] <Windwalker> no problem at all as I said
[01:51] <cpk2> iordanis: its been showing up cpk2 this whole time for me =)
[01:51] <jende> Administrator: try in a console sudo ifconfig
[01:52] <magicmike> I downloaded the one for java because the auto install wouldn't work and I followed the instructions on their page.
[01:52] <Windwalker> just using the anonymous way like in Gnome, but the file is spooled in XP home and then halts there
[01:52] <Administrator> jende, yes it only shows lo
[01:52] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: then anything that has a universe in its line right click it and select enable (you dont need ones that say deb-src at the far left though)
[01:52] <iordanis> hehe thanx mate!
[01:52] <jende> Administrator: what NIC is it? is the NIC recogniced at all? se sudo lspci
[01:52] <jende> Administrator: what NIC is it? is the NIC recogniced at all? use sudo lspci
[01:53] <iordanis> cpk2 is THE man for the job! :D I just hope that someone is paying him VERY good ;))) :$
[01:53] <Windwalker> Joel-Wideman: Thank you for your time I contunue a little more with gnome until i find some solution for this prob
[01:53] <Joel-Wideman> so, basically, gnome lets you print as a guest, whereas kde doesn't, is what seems to be the heart of it. I bet there's a solution, but I don't know it.
[01:53] <jende> magicmike: type in a console sudo apt-cache search java
[01:53] <Administrator> jende, yes a via tech vt6102 rhine-II
[01:53] <Windwalker> I googled, but nothing reasonable yet
[01:54] <iordanis> will get back in ... bye for now :)
[01:54] <jende> Administrator: is that what lspci gave you as an ouput?
[01:55] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, it will take me a min, there are a few highlighted, but finding universe will take me a bit(the poor vision thing)
[01:55] <Joel-Wideman> if it were possible, i'd try getting xp pro on that windows box :D
[01:55] <jende> magicmike: for a firewall you may want to uuse this: sudo apt-get install kmyfirewall
[01:55] <Windwalker> :)
[01:55] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: the column furthest right has whether it says universe or not
[01:55] <Windwalker> pay Microsoft no way!
[01:56] <Windwalker> Joel-Wideman: I will write a few thousand e-mail to kdeprint team :)
[01:56] <cpk2> magicmike: configuring a firewall can be a tricky thing
[01:56] <jende> Administrator: still there?
[01:57] <waspius> hello i just installed gnome on my pc and i was wondering whether gnome uses less resources than kde?
[01:57] <Windwalker> Joel-Wideman: Bye and take care
[01:57] <Joel-Wideman> see ya
[01:57] <Windwalker> waspius: on the contrary!
[01:57] <magicmike> Thanks jende. How do you find all of these applications so you don't have to download tarballs and can install them in this fashion?
[01:57] <jende> magicmike: most KDE apps are listed on www.kde.org
[01:58] <Joel-Wideman> waspius, it's like emacs vs vi
[01:58] <Joel-Wideman> with gnome being the emacs
[01:58] <cpk2> magicmike: apt-cache search helps too =)
[01:58] <waspius> Windwalker: well i dont know but it seems to run faster than kde..i also installed enlightenment but it needs allot of work
[01:58] <Joel-Wideman> gnome can do wonderful things, like using up all resources :D
[01:58] <arejaytee> how do i make kubuntu scan for new hardware? if there is such a thing? ive got a wireless pcmia card but nothing happening when i plug it in
[01:59] <Administrator> jende yes
[01:59] <Administrator> jende, yes a via tech vt6102 rhine-II
[01:59] <Administrator> jende, yes a via tech vt6102 rhine-II
[01:59] <cpk2> magicmike: apt-cache search firewall gives me a few apps i can see that you might be interested in =)
[01:59] <Administrator> jende yes lspci gave me that
[01:59] <jende> magicmike: as Linux is a package based system one package may have deendencies to other packages and once you install them with, i.e. apt, it shows you if there are depencies which aren't met
[01:59] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 1st universe listed says "## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security."
[01:59] <Joel-Wideman> arejaytee, what card is it? it might not be supported yet
[02:00] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: hehe ok well below that there should be one that begins with deb you want all the universe ones that begin with deb
[02:00] <jende> Administrator: hold on, will have a look ath this card on the net
[02:00] <arejaytee> adept is a good manager to use magicmike search on name of programs
[02:00] <arejaytee> netgear wg511 v2
[02:00] <waspius> Joel-Wideman: i love using kde..but i want to use a desktop that will not use allot of resources and will run fine on my laptop..i dont like it when things go slow
[02:01] <magicmike> Cool jende. One question after I installed kmyfirewall, where do I go to configure it?
[02:01] <cpk2> waspius: maybe you would be interested in xfce
[02:01] <cpk2> or fluxbox
[02:02] <Joel-Wideman> waspius, so you want something with a smaller footprint than kde? xfce is probably a good choice
[02:02] <Sikon> is it possible to make pressing the mouse wheel do what it does in Windows?
[02:02] <Sikon> namely, scrolling?
[02:02] <Joel-Wideman> or do without x window altogether
[02:03] <Joel-Wideman> Sikon, you mean where you hold the button down and drag the page up and down?
[02:03] <Sikon> yes
[02:03] <jende> Administrator: check in /etc/modules if there is the appropriate module listed. The module you're looking for is via_rhine
[02:03] <waspius> cpk2: i have tried fluxbox but i dont like the fact that i need to configure it all..i mean that when i installed gnome all my icons ans settings are on my desktop...when i installed fluxbox i need to make new folders etc
[02:04] <cpk2> waspius: then try xfce
[02:04] <jende> magicmike: don't know...I have a dedicated Firewall installed, so not a desktop one, but I'll have a quick look
[02:04] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, enabled them
[02:04] <waspius> cpk2: ok i will thanx
[02:05] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: now close adept and try sudo apt-get install kmag (hopefully konsole is still open)
[02:06] <jende> Administrator: is the module in there?
[02:06] <Administrator> jende, the module is loaded
[02:07] <waspius> can i get xfce through konsole?
[02:08] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ->-> Couldn't find package kmag <-<-
[02:08] <jende> Administrator: is it just there or is it loaded; try to make suure it is loaded sudo modprobe via_rhine
[02:08] <Joel-Wideman> waspius, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[02:08] <jende> magicmike: kmyfirewall comes up with the configuration menu here
[02:09] <magicmike> What configuration menu?
[02:10] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: alright time to stop being nice with the guis =) use pastebin to paste the output you get from doing cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a console
[02:10] <cpk2> !pastebin
[02:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:10] <Joel-Wideman> magicmike, just be careful with the rulesets. It's equally easy to either exclude the world, or allow it.
[02:10] <cpk2> konsole = console
[02:10] <jende> magicmike: if you start kmyfirewall from the menu it pops up with the config GUI
[02:11] <waspius> Joel-Wideman: thanx
[02:11] <jende> magicmike: where are you from?
[02:12] <magicmike> Pennsylvania. I don't see it listed anywhere in the menu.
[02:12] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: i just realized I made a mistake, you need to do "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install kmag" should work
[02:12] <Sikon> I also noticed that, in general, GTK apps render faster than Qt apps
[02:12] <magicmike> Naw, I don't want to cut off the world.
[02:12] <Joel-Wideman> magicmike, me too :D
[02:13] <jende> magicmike: that might be, because it comes from the deb-repos, so will have to update the men;which is easy type sudo apt-get install menus
[02:13] <Sikon> for example, gnome-terminal and Nautilus render much faster than Konsole and Konqueror respectively
[02:13] <jende> cpk2: sleep well, buddy
[02:13] <jende> magicmike: after that you'll type sudo update-menus
[02:14] <cpk2> jende: cant leave BadRabbit320 hanging, i think he will be set after an update install, then i will get a paultry 4-5 hours of sleep
[02:14] <Joel-Wideman> When I start kicker, I get the "X Error: BadWindow" error and the taskbar disappears. Anyone know what the deal is? The problem appeared to have occured spontaneously.
[02:14] <magicmike> E: Couldn't find package menus is the reply.
[02:14] <jende> magicmike: pastebin your sources.list
[02:14] <jende> !pastebin
[02:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:14] <cpk2> magicmike: are you trying to update your kmenu?
[02:14] <BadRabbit320> cpk2  before that; just went into adept mgr to be sure thge universe repositories were enabled, but they are not listed in the "manage repositories" list anymore!
[02:14] <jende> cpk2: yep, he is
[02:15] <jende> jende: I'll watch him...;-)
[02:15] <magicmike> Yo joel, what part?
[02:15] <cpk2> magicmike: right click the kmenu then choose menu editor then save it
[02:15] <Sikon> is there something I can do to accelerate Qt/KDE app rendering?
[02:16] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: well sources.list will tells us whats going on then
[02:16] <jende> Administrator: is the module loaded or not
[02:16] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, trying the update, then kmag routine.  get some sleep, I have plenty of time on my side.  vthanks for helping!
[02:16] <cpk2> and excuse my disintegrating spelling and grammar
[02:16] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: nah I'm a college student, we dont believe in sleep =)
[02:17] <cpk2> and thursday is the new friday in college!
[02:17] <jende> magicmike: once you have pasted your sources.list to pastebin post the given URL in here
[02:17] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 np with your smelling, and i DON'T even know your gramma...
[02:17] <magicmike> Okay alacarte menu editor comes up. Do I add a new entry or add a new menu?
[02:17] <cpk2> magicmike: just save it
[02:17] <Joel-Wideman> Sikon, besides faster video card?
[02:17] <cpk2> magicmike: save it without doing anything
[02:18] <Sikon> I have GeForce 6600GT, I think it's fast enough
[02:18] <Sikon> and as I said, GTK apps render fast
[02:19] <cpk2> Sikon: funny the only apps i have problems with are gtk apps
[02:19] <Sikon> for example, MC refreshes the screen almost instantly in gnome-terminal, but it noticeably lags in Konsole
[02:20] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 ok, update says "Done".  now get kmag?
[02:20] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: yes
[02:21] <magicmike> I saw nothing there that referred to a firewall.
[02:21] <Joel-Wideman> How noticable?
[02:21] <cpk2> magicmike: saving the menu editor will update your kmenu
[02:21] <jende> magicmike: and it will not...just post yoour soources.list
[02:21] <jende> magicmike: and it will not...just post yoour sources.list to pastebin
[02:21] <jende> !pastebin
[02:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:22] <Sikon> it takes about half second to render the screen top-to-bottom
[02:22] <cpk2> magicmike: after you save it an app you just installed will show up in the kmenu if its supposed to be in there
[02:22] <Sikon> also, when I scroll the Konsole window, the entire screen is redrawn and it visibly lags as well
[02:22] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 AGAIN...couldn't find package kmag
[02:22] <magicmike> Nothing new there except root terminal which I just added to make sure I was in the right place.
[02:23] <jende> magicmike: your sources.list will need some modification to get the firewall in the menu, okay
[02:23] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: alright in konsole do cat /etc/apt/sources.list and then go to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste the output there and post he url in here
[02:23] <Administrator> jende it is loaded
[02:23] <magicmike> Explain that sourses.list again and how to access it.
[02:23] <cpk2> magicmike: follow the directions i gave BadRabbit320
[02:23] <Administrator> jende the computer is accros the room so that is why i am replying so lately
[02:23] <magicmike> okay
[02:24] <jende> Administrator: and a ifconfig didn't gave you a device "eth0"?
[02:24] <frederix51> Bye bye
[02:24] <Joel-Wideman> That's weird, Sikon. It really shouldn't do that.
[02:24] <jende> Administrator: it just gave you a "lo"?
[02:25] <Sikon> the problem disappears in Xgl+Beryl
[02:25] <Sikon> but is present with Beryl+nvidiaglx
[02:26] <cpk2> Sikon: my konsole has 1000 line history and it doesnt need to redraw when scrolling...
[02:26] <Sikon> do you have NVIDIA or ATI?
[02:26] <cpk2> nvidia 6600 =)
[02:27] <Sikon> hmm
[02:27] <Sikon> weird indeed
[02:27] <Joel-Wideman> same card
[02:27] <cpk2> but using vanilla kubuntu
[02:27] <Sikon> it lags in "vanilla" Kubuntu as well
[02:27] <Sikon> if you mean plain X.org + kwin by that
[02:27] <magicmike> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27319/
[02:27] <cpk2> yes using "nvidia" driver though
[02:28] <Sikon> same
[02:28] <dude> is there a crash recovery tool for kubuntu?
[02:28] <Sikon> ok, restarting X
[02:28] <cpk2> dude: the install cd
[02:29] <dude> cpk2: how do i use that in case my system crash
[02:30] <cpk2> dude: come in here with the livecd and ask for help =P
[02:30] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 kubuntu is running on the other machine; ur instructions above say to paste the url in here...i'm thinking it has to be posted from the kub machine...if i do that i won't be able to read anything because i can't be logged in 2 places at once...
[02:30] <Joel-Wideman> if his system crashes, likely he can't come in here :D
[02:30] <cpk2> dude: hehe, i think the install cd will give you an emergency terminal
[02:31] <Joel-Wideman> Yes, it does
[02:31] <jende> magicmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27320/
[02:31] <iordanis> @cpk2 : I just wanted to let you know man that YOU rule!
[02:31] <iordanis> it worked like a charm :)
[02:31] <iordanis> I can read almost anything in greek
[02:31] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: you should be able to write down/memorize the link since it is just  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then 5 digits after that
[02:31] <iordanis> my dad is pleased and so am I
[02:32] <cpk2> iordanis: glad to hear the language pack works
[02:32] <iordanis> Thanks man and you just converted two more people into Kubuntu and bye bye Windows ;D
[02:32] <iordanis> thanks thanks thanks ;)
[02:32] <jende> iordanis: good
[02:32] <Joel-Wideman> i've only had to use the disk tools once in about 7 years of running linux with about half a dozen different distros, and that one was a noted unstable kernel
[02:33] <apokryphos> iordanis: poli orea ;-)
[02:33] <iordanis> keep up the great job and here is wishing that we will have to say more in the future :D
[02:33] <iordanis> hehe @apokryphos
[02:33] <Joel-Wideman> you have little to worry about, dude
[02:33] <jende> magicmike: did you have a look at it and saw te difference?
[02:33] <iordanis> bye to all ... going to use / check / see my new OS a bit more ;)
[02:33] <apokryphos> enjoy =)
[02:33] <jende> iordanis: have fun
[02:34] <magicmike> No I don't.
[02:35] <jende> magicmike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27320/
[02:36] <jende> magicmike: now you did?
[02:37] <BadRabbit320> cpk2 pasted, reading screen now
[02:38] <magicmike> They both say the same thing. Even if I did see a difference I have no idea what to do with it.
[02:38] <cpk2> BadRabbit320: ok, i can wait a little longer then =)
[02:39] <cpk2> magicmike: pay attention to the #'s
[02:39] <shadowhywind> does anyone know of a way to to manually set an ip with dhcpcd?
[02:39] <jende> magicmike: the two don't say the same, as in 27320 quite a few hashes have gone
[02:40] <cpk2> shadowhywind: err dont use dhcpd?
[02:40] <jende> magicmike: what you do now is that you open the sources.list in "kate" using kdesu kate /etc7apt/sources.list and delete the hashes accordingly to 27320
[02:40] <jende> magicmike: what you do now is that you open the sources.list in "kate" using kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and delete the hashes accordingly to 27320
[02:40] <jende> magicmike: then save it
[02:40] <shadowhywind> if i just sue say ifconfig wlan0 <ip> i can't connect..
[02:40] <shadowhywind> sue = say*
[02:41] <shadowhywind> sue = use * lol can't spell today.. lol
[02:41] <cpk2> shadowhywind: what are you trying to connect to?
[02:41] <dude> joel-wideman: my system crashed 2X
[02:41] <shadowhywind> my wireless router.. dhcpcd connects, and works perfect i just want to change the ip addy
[02:42] <jende> magicmike: and put a multiverse before the lines where iit says universe
[02:42] <misa> pls, can you help me... i want to get some help win man command with C functions, how can i access it??
[02:42] <jende> magicmike: and put a multiverse before universe, where it just says universe; so it should say multiverse universe
[02:42] <jende> magicmike: sorry, I forgot that
[02:43] <cpk2> shadowhywind: i found for some reason the gui usually gives me better results with my wireless...
[02:43] <shadowhywind> which gui? and does it work with wpa_supplicant?
[02:43] <jende> cpk2: there was something re the KWifimanager, wasn't there?
[02:43] <magicmike> I don't have a kate on my menu.
[02:43] <misa> pls.help..
[02:44] <jende> magicmike: so use KEdit
[02:45] <cpk2> i just use the system settings > network settings gui
[02:45] <cpk2> but i need to go to sleep
[02:45] <apokryphos> ....or just alt+f2 -> kate
[02:45] <cpk2> so good night
[02:45] <misa> can someone help me?
[02:45] <jende> magicmike: cpk2good night
[02:46] <jende> cpk2: good night! til 2morrow?
[02:46] <apokryphos> !helpme
[02:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:46] <magicmike> No kedit either.
[02:46] <apokryphos> magicmike: alt+f 2 -> kate
[02:46] <apokryphos> *alt+f2
[02:47] <jende> magicmike: alt+F2 and then type kdesu kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:47] <cpk2> jende: hrmm by the time I have time to use the computer I will prbably be on my way to my girlfriends, which means no irc till monday probably! =D
[02:47] <jende> cpk2: lucky you
[02:47] <jende> cpk2: go to sleep now
[02:48] <Joel-Wideman> dude, define "crash"
[02:48] <magicmike> Thanks for the help. This is like some puzzle and I'm not good with puzzles.
[02:48] <jende> magicmike: press the keys ALT+F2 together and a lil window will popup
[02:49] <jende> magicmike: that works, doesn't it
[02:49] <magicmike> I downlaoded the stuff as a text file and it comes up as plain-kate.
[02:49] <jende> magicmike: noone said anything tat you should download the file
[02:49] <jende> magicmike: noone said anything that you should download the file
[02:50] <jende> magicmike: just follow our instructions you'll be fine in a few mins
[02:50] <magicmike> Only way I could try to read to see if there were any differences as you mentioned.
[02:51] <jende> magicmike: however, just press ALT+F2 <- the function key not the chars and a window will po up
[02:52] <magicmike> Yea, I know.
[02:52] <jende> magicmike: have it
[02:52] <magicmike> Run application window opens.
[02:52] <joscha> i have two soundcards in my system (using alsa), does anybody know how to make soundcard#1 the default soundcard in also (aka hw0)?
[02:52] <jende> magicmike: in there type kdesu kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:53] <jende> magicmike: kedit will then open your sources.list
[02:53] <magicmike> Command not found.
[02:53] <jende> magicmike: try kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:54] <magicmike> What's next?
[02:55] <jende> magicmike: it's open?
[02:55] <magicmike> After typing my password it disappeared from view.
[02:56] <jende> magicmike: is kate open?
[02:56] <magicmike> Okay, I have sources.list - kate
[02:57] <jende> magicmike: okay, now go to line 10; is there a hash#?If so, delete it
[02:58] <jende> magicmike: next line is 19 check that and go to the position where it says UNIVERSE
[02:58] <jende> magicmike: and write i front of universe multiverse
[02:58] <jende> magicmike: so it says multiverse universe
[02:58] <Xzanron> how do I force an unlock on apt-get?
[02:58] <jende> magicmike: have that?
[02:59] <jende> magicmike: hello?
[03:00] <jende> magicmike: ping
[03:01] <jende> magicmike: still there???
[03:01] <magicmike> Line 19 only has ##team in it.
[03:01] <Jucato> in my country a "magic mike" is a microphone that you can plug into a TV to let you sing video karaoke songs...
[03:02] <jende> magicmike: it's line 20 then
[03:02] <magicmike> Which line with universe do you mean?
[03:02] <jende> magicmike: we'll make it step by step, line for line...no rush...okay
[03:03] <jende> magicmike: this is how line 20 should look like -> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse universe
[03:03] <Jucato> (or "universe multiverse")
[03:03] <jende> Jucato: hehehe
[03:03] <jende> Jucato: how are ya?
[03:03] <magicmike> IOkay got it.
[03:03] <BonBonTheJon_> Xzanron: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:04] <Jucato> thought I was dying... :(
[03:04] <magicmike> Save?
[03:04] <jende> magicmike: now go to line 29 and 30 and do the same...delete the hashes and add multiverse
[03:04] <jende> Jucato: that bad?
[03:04] <admin__> can anyone suggest a systeminfo script for konversation ( kubuntu 6.06)
[03:04] <Jucato> jende: well very bad until I fell asleep...
[03:05] <Jucato> admin__: isn't there one already?
[03:05] <admin__> inbuilt ?
[03:05] <Jucato>  /sysinfo iirc
[03:05] <admin__> :o
[03:05] <joscha> /exec sysinfo
[03:05] <magicmike> Already says universe multiverse. Should I reverse the order of the wording?
[03:05] <admin__> awesome
[03:05] <admin__>  thats how much of a newb i am
[03:05] <jende> magicmike: nope, just delete the hashes
[03:05] <admin__> thx a lot
[03:05] <Jucato> well, no need for the /exec since it's aliased to /sysinfo
[03:05] <BonBonTheJon_> Sysinfo for 'lappy': Linux 2.6.15-27-386 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)CPU2.80GHz at 2791 MHz (5591 bogomips), , RAM: 435/440MB, 125 proc's, 2.14d up
[03:06] <jende> magicmike: delete, if neccessary, the hash of line 33
[03:06] <jende> magicmike: delete, if neccessary, the hash of line 33 and of 35,36,37,38
[03:07] <magicmike> done
[03:07] <jende> magicmike: no save it,
[03:07] <jende> magicmike: and open a conole
[03:07] <magicmike> Already open
[03:08] <jende> magicmike: using ALT+F2; in the console you type sudo apt-get update
[03:08] <jende> Jucato: hehe I had some fun last night...
[03:09] <Jucato> ??
[03:09] <jende> Jucato: my girl came around...*ggg*...that was nice
[03:09] <Jucato> heheh good for you
[03:10] <magicmike> Run in konsole on or using that alt F2 run app box?
[03:10] <jende> run sudo in console
[03:11] <fildo> whats sudo
[03:11] <jende> Jucato: yep, it was more than just good
[03:11] <fildo> ;)
[03:11] <Jucato> lol
[03:11] <magicmike> IT says it's done.
[03:11] <jende> magicmike: now sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[03:11] <Jucato> errr
[03:12] <Jucato> "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:12] <magicmike> E: Invalid operation dist
[03:12] <jende> magicmike: now sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:12] <Jucato> :P
[03:12] <jende> magicmike: just typed to fast
[03:12] <jende> Jucato: *grrrrrrrrr*
[03:13] <Jucato> jende was trying to make sure no one would give the command before him :)
[03:13] <jende> Jucato: nooooooo, I wasn't
[03:13] <davide> hi boys
[03:13] <davide> can i ask for an help please?
[03:14] <magicmike> What all is it doing? Do I have to go back and do all those other things we worked on earlier since it wasn't updating like it should when we tried before.
[03:14] <jende> magicmike: nope, no worries
[03:14] <jende> magicmike: it's all good
[03:14] <Jucato> davide: ask away. if someone knows the answer, they'll answer
[03:15] <admin__> can someone help me install firefox 2
[03:16] <jende> magicmike: and once that upgrade process has finished, type sudo apt-get install menus
[03:16] <jende> magicmike: and once that has finished you type sudo update-menus
[03:16] <magicmike> Cool. I will. Is there a newsreader that can be installed that decodes nzb files?
[03:17] <jende> magicmike: then have a look at the "debian" section in your menu, go to Application->Network and see if kmyfirewall is there
[03:17] <magicmike> Still updating.
[03:17] <jende> magicmike: if not, which I don't think, you have to install it unfortunately once more using sudo apt-get install kmyfirewall
[03:18] <jende> magicmike: I don't use newsreaders, so I'm clueless
[03:18] <PegHorse> re les amis :)
[03:18] <PegHorse> Jsuis sous Kubuntu
[03:18] <magicmike> I'll let you know when I'm done.
[03:18] <PegHorse> :)
[03:18] <magicmike> Thanks.
[03:18] <jende> PegHorse: huh??
[03:19] <jende> magicmike: no worries, I told you we'll get you there
[03:19] <Jucato> !fr
[03:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:19] <jende> magicmike: another important thing is to read the man page for apt-therefor type in aconsole: man apt
[03:20] <arejaytee> i love yakuake so cs feeling lol
[03:21] <wily> ciao ragazzi
[03:22] <wily> ho un problema connettendo kubuntu e winzzoz
[03:22] <wily> o meglio winzooz non vede il mio kubuntu
[03:22] <Jucato> !it
[03:22] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:23] <jende> !sp
[03:23] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-46ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 169 kB, installed size 592 kB
[03:23] <jende> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:24] <Jucato> jende: that was Italian, afaik. Spanish doesn't have a "ciao"
[03:24] <jende> Jucato: i didnt get the ciao?ooops
[03:24] <Jucato> hehe :)
[03:24] <Jucato> need more coffee?
[03:24] <jende> Jucato: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees...urgently
[03:26] <jende> Jucato: I'll get some now to make sure ... you know...*ggg*
[03:26] <Jucato> hehe
[03:29] <jende> Jucato: I'm back with some black gold...
[03:30] <jende> Jucato: have you ever migrated a server from SBS2K to an Ubuntu or Debian Server?
[03:30] <Jucato> jende: err... /me doesn't even know how to run one :P
[03:30] <jende> Jucato: what
[03:30] <jende> Jucato: what?
[03:31] <Jucato> I don't know how to run a server, much less migrate...
[03:31] <davide_> hey guys,was someone able to install a printer "canon i250" ???
[03:31] <jende> Jucato: okay...could've been...
[03:32] <JosefK> assuming you're running services like MySQL/Apache/Oracle they all have their own processes for migrating data
[03:32] <JosefK> as for the server, you're bringing that up from cold :)
[03:33] <jende> davide_: there is a canon driver available in australia: http://www.canon.com.au/products/printers/colour_bj_printers/i250_drivers.html
[03:34] <jende> JosefK: No they don't run MySQl/Apache or Oracle
[03:35] <jende> JosefK: They#re using the server as yet for some resons just to shre their juridictive databases and they run on Lnux as well
[03:35] <JosefK> okay jende, what's the intended use for the server?
[03:35] <ubuntu_> hy
[03:36] <davide_> jende i tried but it doesn't function
[03:36] <jende> JosefK: the database they use is a serverbased application which runs either on SBS's or Debian-based Servers. The intend to change are the license costs and that if they
[03:37] <jende> JosefK: not change they have to buy a new server to fulfill the SBS2003 Hardware requirements
[03:37] <JosefK> if it's intended for Debian mostly there shouldn't be a problem, and indeed, it's nice to pick people up in Linux because of obsene HW requirements
[03:38] <jende> JosefK: exactly, and I'm happy to convince people using Linux rather than W$
[03:38] <davide_> the problem is that i'm unable to convert rpm in deb
[03:38] <davide_> i downloaded ALIEN
[03:38] <jende> davide_: read man alien
[03:38] <davide_> but the conversion dooesn't happen
[03:38] <jende> davide_: it tells you all you need to know: man alien
[03:39] <davide_> but
[03:39] <davide_> where is?
[03:39] <JosefK> jende: if it's for a server, while Ubuntu's nice, support licenses may dictate they run in Debian - that's up to the vendor, same for the migration docs for their database
[03:39] <davide_> is him an user?
[03:40] <JosefK> man = documentation.  ie. 'man ls'
[03:40] <JosefK> manual pages
[03:41] <jende> davide_: you'll have to be in a console
[03:41] <Jucato> actually, you don't :)
[03:41] <Jucato> man:/ in Konqueror does the same thing
[03:41] <Jucato> man:/alien for example
[03:41] <davide_> ok
[03:41] <davide_> now i test
[03:41] <jende> JosefK: you're talking now about the discussions re Jrg Schilling and CDDL vs GPL
[03:42] <JosefK> :P unfortunately not, I mean the Database Vendor may only offer support on Debian
[03:42] <jende> Jucato: I knew you'll come with konqi
[03:42] <Jucato> hrh
[03:42] <JosefK> it's worth consulting them before you get it running on Ubuntu anyway, in case you get a shock the first time you need support
[03:42] <davide_> it's written that it doesn't exist "man:/alien"
[03:42] <jende> JosefK: no, they're happy with Ubuntu as well
[03:43] <JosefK> oh, in that case go ahead :) you only mentioned SBS/Debian before
[03:43] <Jucato> davide_: in Konqueror?
[03:43] <davide_> nono
[03:43] <jende> they support debian and Ubuntiu, which is just AWESOME!!!
[03:43] <davide_> in console
[03:43] <JosefK> indeed, that's pretty good :)
[03:43] <Jucato> davide_: if you run it in Konsole, it's supposed to be "man alien". man:/ works only in Konqueror
[03:44] <jende> Jucato: now you've confused him...hehehe
[03:44] <Jucato> lol
[03:44] <jende> Jucato: hehe...it wasn't me this time
[03:44] <Jucato> fine fine :)
[03:44] <jende> Jucato: lol
[03:45] <waylandbill> hmm... didn't know konq supported man:/    My new thing for the day I guess.
[03:45] <davide_> ah ok
[03:45] <davide_> thank you
[03:45] <JosefK> I hear it does info:/ too wayland :)
[03:45] <Jucato> waylandbill: you might be interested in apt:/ as well
[03:45] <davide_> i 'm able to read
[03:45] <waylandbill> apt:/ I knew of
[03:45] <Jucato> I do hope that SUSE's sysinfo:/ makes its way too .deb soon
[03:45] <Eddy> hi what is name of the screenshot in KDE ?
[03:46] <Jucato> KSnapshot
[03:46] <jende> Eddy: knsnapshoot
[03:46] <Jucato> !ksnapshot
[03:46] <ubotu> ksnapshot: screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 146 kB, installed size 404 kB
[03:46] <Jucato> don't shoot :P
[03:47] <fildo> lol
[03:47] <Eddy> but how do i install KSnapshot
[03:47] <jende> davide_: the command should be, AFAIR, simply sudo alien <filename.rpm>
[03:47] <Jucato> Eddy: it's already installed there
[03:47] <fildo>  > sudo apt-get install knsapshit
[03:47] <Jucato> KSnapshot comes with every standard install of Kubuntu, or KDE for that matter
[03:47] <jende> fildo: menat ksnapshot instead of shit
[03:47] <Eddy> thx i am on FLuxbox
[03:47] <jende> fildo: meant ksnapshot instead of shit
[03:48] <ubuntu__> Hello, I got a trouble, Now I am in a Live CD, because I cannot start my kubuntu, I got the login page , but even though I wirte my password down, nothing happend, It returns to the login page, what can I do_, I can go cosole, but don-t know what to do there either
[03:48] <fildo> opps
[03:48] <fildo> didnt noticethat .. haha
[03:48] <Jucato> Eddy: you installed Fluxbox on top of Kubuntu? anyway "sudo apt-get install ksnapshot" if it's really not yet installed
[03:49] <jende> fildo: but Ksnapshit could be a nice app, once a day
[03:49] <jende> ubuntu__: start in a recovery mode
[03:49] <Jucato> except that...
[03:49] <Jucato> !language
[03:49] <fildo> lol
[03:49] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:49] <wily> hi all
[03:50] <wily> i've a problem with my windows lan
[03:50] <wily> that can't see my kubuntu
[03:50] <wily> anyone can help me?=
[03:50] <jende> ubuntu__: then check if your root partition has been mounted; using the command mount
[03:50] <ubuntu__> jende. how
[03:50] <JosefK> wily: are you running samba?  'sudo apt-get install samba'
[03:50] <Eddy> no i isntall thats on ubuntu but i like ksnapshot
[03:51] <magicmike> Gotta reboot. Be right back.
[03:51] <wily> yes
[03:51] <jende> ubuntu__: start the box, it tells you to press ESC if you want to enter the boot menu
[03:51] <jende> ubuntu
[03:51] <jende> ubuntu__: so do that, select in the menu the recovery mode
[03:51] <jende> ub#
[03:51] <wily> yes i've samba server
[03:51] <wily> installed
[03:52] <ubuntu__> jende. I did, but it gets me to the konsole
[03:52] <JosefK> wily: if you're running a firewall you'll need to open the ports, also enable Browsable in your smb.conf
[03:52] <jende> ubuntu__: you'll end up in a console and you should be automatically root. At the prompt type mount
[03:52] <JosefK> *Browseable
[03:52] <ubuntu__> jende. ok and then
[03:52] <jende> ubuntu__: if your hda1 isnt mounted you have to mount it using mount /dev/hda1/ /mnt
[03:52] <wily> JosefK: i've done it
[03:53] <JosefK> wily: you should still be able to directly access the machine, does \\192.168.*.*\ (address) on the windows boxes work okay?
[03:53] <davide_> jende
[03:53] <ubuntu__> jende. ok I will check
[03:53] <jende> ubuntu__: then you'll go into a chroot environment
[03:53] <mendred> hi i am thinking of upgrading to edgy..when i run dist-upgrade upstart doesn't appear as one of the packages to be installed..is this normal?
[03:53] <ubuntu__> jende. see you, thanks
[03:53] <jende> davide_: yes
[03:53] <davide_> i cannot convert
[03:53] <wily> no
[03:53] <wily> j
[03:53] <jende> ubuntu__: we are not ready now
[03:53] <davide_> i don't know why
[03:53] <wily> JosefK: i don't see my manchine
[03:54] <davide_> it's 3 days that i'm trying to install this printer
[03:54] <davide_> and i can't
[03:54] <davide_> ;(
[03:54] <jende> davide_: did alien create a *.deb package?
[03:54] <JosefK> wily: if you don't when you explicitly browse to it, I guess you could try restarting the server (sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart) - if that doesn't fix it, check it's logs in /var/log for a clue
[03:54] <davide_> no
[03:55] <wily> thanx JosefK i think it is a firewall problem
[03:55] <davide_> it doesn't create this package
[03:55] <jende> davide_: I'll try it quickly
[03:55] <wily> now i try to open some ports
[03:55] <davide_> well i need to convert a "rpm " to a "deb"
[03:55] <davide_> i use the command
[03:55] <davide_> but it doesn't convert
[03:55] <davide_> i tried on konqueror
[03:55] <zen2> davide_ is it a lexmark
[03:55] <JosefK> wily: port 139 for Samba
[03:55] <davide_> no
[03:56] <JosefK> wily: and port 445 ;)
[03:56] <davide_> it's a canon i250
[03:56] <wily> ;-)
[03:56] <zen2> ahh haveing same hassle here
[03:56] <zen2> only mine is a lexmark
[03:57] <Eddy> #ubuntu
[03:58] <davide_> i found an interestin webssite
[03:58] <davide_> but
[03:58] <davide_> i followed every passage
[03:58] <davide_> and nothing!
[04:00] <jende> davide_: have you tries it with the tar package as well?
[04:00] <jende> davide_: have you tried it with the tar package as well?
[04:01] <jende> davide_: in there is a ./configure skript which shoud work
[04:01] <jende> davide_: if you don't have it I could mail it to you
[04:02] <davide_> wait
[04:02] <JosefK> skript?  the 'k' thing is infectious :/
[04:02] <jende> JosefK: which "k" thing?
[04:02] <davide_> i downloaded the tar package on the website of canon
[04:02] <JosefK> heh, you'll have to forgive me, I'm migrating to KDE from Gnome, but I've noticed a lot of superfluous k's in program names
[04:03] <jende> davide_: good, unpack it
[04:03] <LjL> JosefK: kand kdoes kthat kbother kyou? kwhy?
[04:03] <davide_> ok jende i did it
[04:03] <JosefK> hehe :P just an observation ^^
[04:03] <CVirus> LOL @ LjL
[04:04] <jende> LjL: kunfortunately Kit Kreally Kbother Kme
[04:04] <davide_> and now?
[04:04] <jende> LjL: Knot kat Kall
[04:04] <jende> davide_: open the console
[04:04] <davide_> ok
[04:04] <MDCore> klosers...
[04:04] <jende> davide_: go into the directory in which you have unpacked it
[04:05] <davide_> wai jende
[04:05] <jende> MDCore: Knot Kme
[04:05] <davide_> but what console i have to open?
[04:05] <davide_> Konsole or Konqueror?
[04:05] <jende> davide_: Konsole
[04:06] <Jucato> davide_: Konsole is the console/terminal. Konqueror is the file manager
[04:06] <davide_> jende
[04:06] <jende> davide_: yes
[04:06] <davide_> how i have to open the directory
[04:06] <davide_> in konsole?
[04:06] <davide_> it's my third day without winzozz
[04:06] <jende> davide_: use the cd command
[04:06] <davide_> ah like dos
[04:06] <fildo> lol
[04:07] <fildo> ull get there son
[04:07] <fildo> indeed
[04:07] <fildo> like  DOS!
[04:07] <jende> fildo: funny you, ey
[04:07] <jende> JosefK: just a quest...are you from germany?
[04:07] <bardelcolle2> ciao
[04:07] <JosefK> nah, spent some time there though
[04:07] <LjL> !it
[04:08] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:08] <jende> JosefK: cause Josef sounds quite german/austrian
[04:08] <davide_> jende
[04:08] <davide_> ok
[04:08] <bardelcolle2_> fffgg
[04:08] <davide_> i opened the foulder
[04:08] <jende> davide_: you're in the directory?
[04:08] <davide_> yes
[04:08] <JosefK> heh, it's from a book by Franz Kafka, so names common to him would've been in the vicinity of Prague in the early 20th century
[04:09] <wily> Jo
[04:09] <stock> rrrrr
[04:09] <wily> JosefK:
[04:09] <wily> there are you?
[04:09] <JosefK> yeah wily, 'sup?
[04:09] <davide_> jend i opened the directory
[04:10] <davide_> and now?
[04:10] <stock> e una chat di inglesi????
[04:10] <wily> i've open some ports and by windows i see \\192.0.168.(kubuntu)
[04:10] <LjL> !it
[04:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:10] <JosefK> wily: brilliant :) any further trouble with it?
[04:10] <wily> now windows ask me password?!?!?!
[04:10] <davide_> jende i opened the directory and now?
[04:10] <jende> davide_: now type  ./autogen.sh --program-suffix=i250
[04:10] <davide_> ok
[04:10] <JosefK> yes, it will do.  run 'sudo smbpasswd *your username on the linux box*'
[04:10] <JosefK> use your username and the password you enter there to login
[04:11] <wily> doh
[04:11] <wily> doesn't work
[04:11] <JosefK> wily: you need to run 'smbpasswd' first
[04:11] <davide_> there is an error message
[04:11] <jende> davide_: which oone
[04:11] <JosefK> wily: on the server, you can enter your Linux password, or an arbitrary one.  you don't use your login password to access Samba by default
[04:11] <davide_> it's written that i need  "autoconf" installed
[04:11] <davide_> and then
[04:12] <davide_> "automake"installed
[04:13] <jende> davide_: no worries,
[04:13] <wily> JosefK: nothing to do
[04:13] <wily> doesn't worsk
[04:13] <jende> davide_: type sudo apt-cache search autoconf
[04:13] <JosefK> wily: hmm, it should do - if it failed authentication, it'll definitely be in samba's log
[04:13] <jende> davide_: you should get quite few files as an output
[04:13] <davide_> jende , i've to type it in konqueror?
[04:13] <JosefK> wily: it's case-sensitive (I think), so you'd need the exact username/password
[04:14] <jende> davide_: no, in the Konsole
[04:14] <jende> davide_: we'll stay til we finished in the Konsole and
[04:14] <JosefK> wily: unless, you can now login, and there's nothing interesting to do on the server - which is the default configuration
[04:14] <davide_> ok
[04:14] <davide_> i did
[04:14] <jende> davide_: keep rockin' in there
[04:14] <JosefK> wily: you can add browing of home directories etc. from smb.conf
[04:14] <wily> ok
[04:15] <davide_> jende what?
[04:15] <JosefK> wily: after you change it, 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' :)
[04:15] <davide_> rockin in there?what does it mean?
[04:15] <jende> davide_: now as it got found in your repos type sudo apt-get install autoconf
[04:15] <jende> davide_: rockin->workin
[04:15] <davide_> ah ok jende
[04:16] <davide_> now it's downloading
[04:16] <jende> davide_: it may take a little while, get back to me once you have installed autoconf
[04:16] <davide_> i installed it
[04:16] <davide_> that's ok
[04:17] <jende> davide_: good! now type apt-cache search automake
[04:17] <jende> davide_: good! now type sudo apt-cache search automake
[04:17] <davide_> jende
[04:17] <stock> fuck off all
[04:17] <davide_> there are 4 kinds of automake
[04:18] <Riddell> davide_: you want automake1.9 not automake
[04:19] <davide_> yes
[04:19] <jende> davide_: type sudo apt-get install automake1.9
[04:19] <davide_> on the error massage
[04:19] <jende> davide_: type sudo apt-get install automake1.9
[04:19] <davide_> it's written automake 1.3 or newer version
[04:19] <jende> davide_: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ well 1.9 is newer
[04:20] <davide_> ok
[04:20] <davide_> jende
[04:20] <davide_> i finished
[04:20] <davide_> ;)
[04:20] <jende> davide_: now type  ./autogen.sh --program-suffix=i250
[04:21] <davide_> jende
[04:21] <fildo> hey why is it i have lost a kubuntu screen @ the begining . when it init all devices
[04:21] <davide_> i did
[04:21] <davide_> the operation started
[04:22] <davide_> it went out a lot of voices
[04:22] <jende> davide_: no errors?
[04:22] <davide_> and at the end
[04:22] <davide_> it's written
[04:22] <davide_> :
[04:22] <davide_> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[04:23] <tenner> fix your $PATH or apt-get an appropriate gcc?
[04:24] <davide_> tenner and how i can do?
[04:24] <davide_> jende at the end of the message it's written   "See `config.log' for more details."
[04:24] <davide_> i should read it?
[04:25] <JosefK> davide_: sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc g++ libstdc++6
[04:25] <fildo> narh
[04:25] <fildo> build-essentials
[04:25] <fildo> ah beat me to it
[04:25] <JosefK> :P
[04:26] <jende> davide_: sorry, just got me new voffee
[04:26] <jende> davide_: sorry, just got me new coffee
[04:26] <davide_> josefk i'm downloading
[04:26] <davide_> jende don't worry
[04:26] <jende> davide_: ah well, I should have told you
[04:26] <fildo> so
[04:27] <JosefK> davide_: that'll get you a good enough gcc, g++ etc. - try running the configure script again afterwards, using './configure --prefix=/usr/local'
[04:27] <JosefK> davide_: we don't want it installing into /usr/bin ;)
[04:27] <davide_> jende
[04:28] <davide_> i finished the install
[04:28] <wily> JosefK: nothing to to
[04:28] <davide_> with "./autogen.sh --program-suffix=i250"
[04:28] <davide_> and now it's written
[04:28] <davide_> now type `make' to compile the package.
[04:28] <jende> davide_: goooooood
[04:28] <jende> davide_: type make
[04:28] <davide_> but when i write "make"
[04:28] <Kennie`> is it possible to run 64bit kubuntu on a centrino duo?
[04:29] <JosefK> wily: can you login okay?
[04:29] <davide_> there are others errors
[04:29] <davide_> ;(
[04:29] <jende> davide_: like?
[04:29] <JosefK> Kennie`: only on Core 2 Duo
[04:29] <wily> JosefK: no
[04:29] <davide_> make[2] : *** [bjferror.o]  Error 1
[04:30] <wily> i can't log in linux resources
[04:30] <davide_> make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/davide/bjfilter-2.3-0/src'
[04:30] <jende> davide_: type sudo make
[04:30] <Kennie`> JosefK : but the cpu is 64bit.. or wont kubuntu ever gonna make support for those intel's?
[04:30] <davide_> jende i tryed but always the same errors
[04:31] <JosefK> Kennie`: the original Core Duo isn't 64-bit.  Core 2 Duo is, and is amd64 compatible, so with a few gotcha's it works out of the box
[04:31] <jende> davide_: now, I'm clueless
[04:31] <JosefK> wily: 'linux resources'?
[04:31] <Snifouille> Hey There
[04:31] <wily> JosefK: is all ok
[04:31] <davide_> MT bjferror.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/bjferror.Tpo" -c -o bjferror.o bjferror.c; \
[04:31] <davide_>         then mv -f ".deps/bjferror.Tpo" ".deps/bjferror.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/b             jferror.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
[04:32] <wily> smbpasswd - user
[04:32] <davide_> jende this is the first part of the error
[04:32] <JosefK> wily: mhm, without the '-' though, ie. 'smbpasswd user'
[04:32] <JosefK> wily: mhm, without the '-' though, ie. 'sudo smbpasswd user'
[04:32] <wily> you are right
[04:32] <JosefK> wily: first sudo will ask you for its password, then smbpasswd will set a password for the user
[04:32] <wily> -a
[04:33] <Snifouille> I'm new to Linux and also very ashamed... I've just deleted my user directorie by the rm -Rf command, I don't know why, I just did it... Now I can't log on because conf files are not present anymore. I'm on the LiveCd and don't know what do to do... Do I have to reinstall everything, or is there a way to take those files needed back ?
[04:33] <jende> Riddell: were there any major changes in autoconf1.9 re 1.3/1.4?
[04:34] <Acidic32> Snifouille: just reboot
[04:34] <JosefK> Snifouille: if you were on the Live CD when you deleted it, rebooting will work.  if you deleted it on an installed system, you can boot into 'recovery mode' then create the /home/username directory and chmod/chown it appropriately
[04:35] <JosefK> Snifouille: press 'Escape' when GRUB asks to get the option to boot into Recovery Mode
[04:35] <Snifouille> I was on a installed system... :(
[04:35] <Riddell> jende: yes, autoconf changes lots with every release
[04:35] <JosefK> Snifouille: you'll have lost the files, but if you recreate that path you'll be able to login again
[04:35] <jende> Riddell: just wondering if the changes in autoconf might cause "davide's" problems
[04:36] <Snifouille> Okay but even if i create this directorie, KDE is trying to reach a file like .CDO_KDE.....etc, it will still need it, non ?
[04:36] <Snifouille> I didn't have any files in it... :(
[04:36] <Acidic32> Snifouille: just mkdir /home/username and reboot
[04:36] <Acidic32> :P
[04:36] <davide_> jende so i try to install autoconf 1.3?
[04:37] <davide_> we test !
[04:37] <jende> davide_: wait a sec
[04:37] <Snifouille> okay BIG THANK YOU, I'll tell you in 5 minut about what's going on :)
[04:37] <JosefK> Snifouille: no, if the path is there, it'll create that file :) it's complaining it can't create the file without the path existing
[04:37] <jende> Riddell: what do you think?
[04:37] <Snifouille> ooooh okay ! that's cool
[04:37] <Snifouille> see you in 5 minuts
[04:37] <Snifouille> and big thank you again
[04:37] <Acidic32> Sniffoule: also chown username:username /home/username
[04:37] <JosefK> Snifouille: I nuked my home folder I'd hardlinked into a chroot the other day, it happens to us all
[04:38] <Snifouille> :)
[04:38] <Snifouille> see you
[04:38] <Riddell> jende: it's possible I suppose
[04:39] <jende> davide_: type sudo apt-get remove autoconf
[04:39] <Daemonik> Kubuntu comes with a "remote desktop" client to connect to windows machines correct?
[04:39] <davide_> ok
[04:39] <davide_> i did
[04:39] <jende> davide_: no
[04:39] <davide_> it's removed jende
[04:40] <jende> davide_: now type apt-get remove automake1.9
[04:40] <JosefK> Daemonik: yes, but you need to install the 'rdesktop' package too
[04:40] <davide_> wait jende
[04:41] <davide_> i wrote sudo apt-get remove autoconf
[04:41] <davide_> and i deleted it
[04:41] <jende> and as next
[04:41] <jende> davide_: now type apt-get remove automake1.9
[04:41] <davide_> so now when i write type apt-get remove automake1.9
[04:41] <mrtaran12345> patch problem.. someone pls check it out! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27325/
[04:41] <jende> davide_: now type sudo apt-get remove automake1.9
[04:41] <davide_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[04:41] <davide_> this is the error
[04:41] <jende> davide_: now type sudo apt-get remove automake1.9
[04:42] <yeti> alt+mouse1 is bound to moving windows in my kde, how do i unset that? i need alt+mouse1 to be recognised by a user program
[04:42] <vge> what means "Thease paggages are hold back and not upgraded"(list of paggages)?
[04:42] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: cat madwifi-ng-r1756.patch | sudo patch -Np1
[04:42] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: ?
[04:43] <davide_> jende
[04:43] <davide_> now it says that the package it's not installed
[04:43] <davide_> so it's not possible to delete it!
[04:43] <davide_> ok?
[04:43] <jende> davide_: fair enough
[04:43] <mrtaran12345> josefk: i get same response
[04:43] <jende> davide_: now type sudo apt-get install autoconf automake1.4
[04:44] <jende> davide_: just as stated in one line
[04:44] <mrtaran12345> josefk: whats possible in making it seem non existant?
[04:44] <davide_> ok jende,i did and it installed automake1.4
[04:44] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: when you do it using 'cat', is it patch complaining, or cat?
[04:44] <davide_> now i test from the beginning?
[04:44] <jende> davide_: and autoconf?
[04:44] <mrtaran12345> cat is complaining
[04:45] <mrtaran12345> cat: madwifi-ng-r1756.patch: No such file or directory
[04:45] <JosefK> ls again, see if the file's still there
[04:45] <mrtaran12345> it is
[04:45] <mrtaran12345> i check with LS
[04:45] <Daemonik> JosefK sudo apt-get install rdesktop?
[04:45] <chimaera> hi. i'm having a little problem with knetworkmanager. after i log in i have to enter the PWD for kwallet. knetworkmanager pulls the WPA-passphrase from it, everything worlks fine. if i don't immediately enter the pwd for kwallet, knetworkmanager stalls, the systray button disappears and i have to kill the process by hand before i can restart it. any ideas on this?
[04:45] <JosefK> yes Daemonik
[04:45] <davide_> jende i installed
[04:45] <vge> !pastebin
[04:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:46] <jende> davide_: now type  ./autogen.sh --program-suffix=i250
[04:46] <vge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27326/ <-- somebody can explain this?
[04:46] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: if it's there, there's no reason for cat or patch to complain, I'd try starting another shell and trying again
[04:46] <Daemonik> JosefK It says package is missing but referred to by another source. Must I add some repos?
[04:46] <mrtaran12345> en
[04:46] <chx> hi. is it possible to boot Kubuntu from a pendrive and then run the whole thing entirely from RAM?
[04:47] <JosefK> vge: do a dist-upgrade instead of an upgrade?
[04:47] <vge> dont help
[04:47] <rag> hi *
[04:48] <JosefK> Daemonik: it should be in main :/
[04:48] <Jucato> vge: what are you trying to do?
[04:48] <mrtaran12345> josefk: i closed it, and opened a fresh one.. heres my result.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27327/   same
[04:48] <davide_> jende bad news : this error "configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../.."
[04:48] <vge> Jucato: well normal update, but those paggages are "hounting"
[04:48] <davide_> ;(((
[04:48] <rag> help me please, i have a ssh with RSA authentication configured
[04:48] <Ash_Fox> How does one disable that blasted message pane in kmail?
[04:49] <rag> but.. i need connect without put passfhrase, is possible?
[04:49] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: that's plain obscure :/ 'sudo patch -p1 < *.patch'
[04:49] <Ash_Fox> rag, ssh-keygen, and create a key without a pass phrase.
[04:49] <Jucato> vge: the only reason I could think of is that a required repository might be disabled
[04:49] <rag> Ash Fox: thx, how to?
[04:50] <Ash_Fox> ssh-keygen
[04:50] <rag> Ash_Fox: thx, how to?
[04:50] <Ash_Fox> and it enter when it asks you for the pass phrase
[04:50] <Ash_Fox> Rather than entering anything
[04:50] <rag> Ash_Fox: nothing?
[04:50] <Ash_Fox> That's right, don't enter anything, just hit enter when it asks.
[04:50] <Ash_Fox> You need to generate the key using ssh-keygen
[04:50] <rag> Ash Fox: i have run ssh-keygen with a passfhrase
[04:50] <Ash_Fox> No you don't.
[04:51] <jende> davide_: Will you be back here tomorrow?
[04:51] <rag> Ash_Fox:  already i runned ssh-keygen
[04:51] <davide_> i don't know
[04:51] <Ash_Fox> rag, then create a new key
[04:51] <jende> davide_: I'll try to find a workaround for you til tomorrow
[04:51] <davide_> but it's for my interesting
[04:51] <davide_> ok jende
[04:51] <davide_> thank u the same
[04:51] <davide_> for your helping
[04:51] <rag> Ash_Fox: do you say me with passphrase equal nothing, Enter?
[04:52] <mrtaran12345> josef: jordan@jordan-laptop:~/madwifi-ng$ sudo patch -p1 < *.patch
[04:52] <jende> davide_: now, I cant davide cause I have a meeting at 5.30pm CET
[04:52] <Ash_Fox> Just hit enter when it asks in ssh-keygen
[04:52] <mrtaran12345> josef: bash: *.patch: No such file or directory
[04:52] <davide_> jende don't worry
[04:52] <rag> Ash_Fox: ok i test it now, yesterday test it without pass on ssh-keygen and i can't
[04:52] <davide_> you've been so good to waste time with me
[04:52] <davide_> so i really thank you
[04:52] <Ash_Fox> rag, it works for me.
[04:52] <jende> davide_: I don't worrs, I just wanted to let you know that I might find a solution for your problem
[04:52] <rag> Ash_Fox: i test it again, thx Ash_Fox, i tell you now
[04:52] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: this is beyond me - the file exists, ls says it exists, but everything else refuses to believe it.
[04:52] <jende> davide_: til tomorrow
[04:53] <davide_> i hope
[04:53] <mrtaran12345> josef: seems so ..   who should i call
[04:53] <davide_> because this printer is making me crazy
[04:53] <mrtaran12345> josef: bug?
[04:53] <jende> davide_: *ggg* it's got to work somehow
[04:53] <davide_> and now i'm not the only one who is going crazy
[04:53] <davide_> eheheheh
[04:53] <davide_> i hope!
[04:53] <davide_> have a nice day jende!
[04:53] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: I doubt it's a bug, 'ls' has practically been proven correct over the years - could be something in the filesystem, or an odd character encoding
[04:53] <rag> Ash_Fox: ssh-keygen -t rsa? true?
[04:53] <mrtaran12345> haha
[04:53] <chx> thanks for pointing me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendriveP
[04:53] <Ash_Fox> Yes.
[04:53] <chx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[04:53] <jende> davide_: it might just needs a bit more time to investigate why it wont get installed
[04:54] <mrtaran12345> you mean the patch file could be corrupted
[04:54] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: no, the file isn't corrupt, it doesn't even get that far - cat, patch etc. don't even know it exists
[04:54] <rag> Ash_Fox: ok, ssh-keygen ok, now i go scp to remote host
[04:55] <jende> davide_: maybe there is also already somewhere a new driver available
[04:55] <mrtaran12345> jose: what can i do
[04:55] <Ash_Fox> yes, you need to put your new public key into .ssh/authorized_keys on the remote host.
[04:55] <jende> davide_: and another thing I haven't wasted time, I tries to help someone solving a problem
[04:55] <jende> davide_: and another thing I haven't wasted time, I tried to help someone solving a problem
[04:55] <davide_> ok jende
[04:56] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: nothing, really, you could run an fsck if you feel like an adventure - I'd just download the file again from somewhere and try again
[04:56] <davide_> tomorrow in the first afternoon(if u agree)we can investigate
[04:56] <davide_> ;)
[04:56] <davide_> thank you!
[04:56] <jende> davide_: if I don't like to help I shouldn't be here!
[04:56] <jende> Jucato: how much will you be here today?
[04:56] <jende> davide_: see ya tomorrow
[04:56] <davide_> i know jende, and you have to be proud about this
[04:57] <davide_> see you tomorrow
[04:57] <jende> davide_: about what?
[04:57] <Jucato> jende: not sure.. still not feeling well
[04:57] <davide_> to be here for helping
[04:58] <jende> davide_: its fun and we all learn ad due to that we all get better
[04:58] <rag> Ash_Fox: ok already! i follow http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html
[04:59] <davide_> yes jende i think it too
[04:59] <Ash_Fox> Heh, that looks overly complicated for what should be a simple operation...
[04:59] <rag> Ash_Fox: is good, yesterday i dont know test it without pass and i have some problem or i am zzzzz.... jajaj
[05:00] <rag> Ash_Fox: thx , now i'll can install with aptitude install on all machines of my network
[05:00] <rag> Ash-Fox: thx , now i'll can install with aptitude install on all machines of my network
[05:00] <Ash-Fox> rag, good :)
[05:00] <grem> hi
[05:00] <jende> Jucato: whats the name for that one linux site who has got lots of OS-printerdrivers again? I ahvent markes it as a favourite on my Notebook
[05:00] <Ash-Fox> Hello Grem.
[05:00] <rag> Ash-Fox: Ubuntu has a other solution for multiple-installations of software?
[05:00] <Jucato> jende: err.. sorry. no clue
[05:01] <jende> Jucato: now you're kidding me
[05:01] <grem> a nice flv player, anyone? :)
[05:01] <Ash-Fox> rag, I'm not aware of other solutions, but there might be.
[05:01] <rag> Ash-Fox: i want aptitude install any-software for all machines
[05:01] <Jucato> jende: no I'm not
[05:01] <rag> Ash-Fox: i think that this solution is ok, true?
[05:01] <Jucato> haven't had a printer in over 2 years
[05:02] <rag> Ash-Fox: and safe no?
[05:02] <chimaera> hi. i'm having a little problem with knetworkmanager. after i log in i have to enter the PWD for kwallet. knetworkmanager pulls the WPA-passphrase from it, everything worlks fine. if i don't immediately enter the pwd for kwallet, knetworkmanager stalls, the systray button disappears and i have to kill the process by hand before i can restart it. any ideas on this?
[05:02] <Ash-Fox> rag, it should be alright.
[05:02] <rag> Ash-Fox: ok thanks, see you
[05:03] <jende> davide_: are you still there?
[05:03] <rag> Ash-Fox: by the way, only a thing more
[05:03] <rag> Ash-Fox: do you know about kde-menu , tutorial, links ?
[05:03] <jende> davide_: Ping
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> rag, nope, but you might want to ask #KDE about it.
[05:03] <jende> Jucato: the URL is www.linuxprinting.org
[05:03] <rag> Ash-Fox: ok kde only or developer?
[05:04] <jende> Jucato: and they have heaps of drivers
[05:04] <mrtaran12345> is it against the law to send aircrack patch to someone in china?
[05:04] <rag> Ash-Fox: i need add menus to kde-menu Start KDE menu
[05:05] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: probably in the US mrtaran12345, almost certainly in China - but it's kinda fun, no?
[05:05] <jende> davide_: if you're still around I have found, I guess, what you need; at least have a look on:
[05:05] <Ash-Fox> rag, I've told you I don't know. Try #KDE
[05:05] <mrtaran12345> jose: im american but im in china
[05:05] <jende> davide_: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-BJC-250
[05:05] <rag> Ash-Fox: i am learning some files configuration like IconsPositions, etc interest a lot
[05:05] <rag> Ash-Fox: ok thanks , bye see you
[05:05] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: the first step in performing illegal activity is not to announce it in a heavily populated IRC channel
[05:05] <mrtaran12345> josef: the aircrack's site is banned, so i used a proxy server to copy the text and save as a file
[05:06] <Ash-Fox> Bye.
[05:06] <jende> Jucato: maybe I'll see you later
[05:06] <mrtaran12345> josef: but its very possible the encoding wasnt set as you said
[05:06] <Jucato> jende: maybe, maybe not :P
[05:06] <jende> Jucato: If you'll see davide would you mind telling him that I found his printerdriver?
[05:06] <mrtaran12345> josef: someone in another channale was afraid its illegal
[05:06] <Jucato> jende: yes I do mind! j/k
[05:07] <mrtaran12345> josef: i didnt know that that kind of thing gets banned, its not really an export,, its open source
[05:07] <Ash-Fox> mrtaran12345, you should contact the local authorities and ask.
[05:07] <jende> Jucato: if we don't see us take care and get a good nap!
[05:07] <JosefK> mrtaran12345: I'm not sure of Chinese laws, but from what I hear their goons don't care so much?
[05:07] <mrtaran12345> lol
[05:07] <jende> See ya late folks
[05:07] <Jucato> hehe ok thanks
[05:07] <mrtaran12345> i just want the file
[05:07] <mrtaran12345> i dont want to fly back to the states to get it :/
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> mrtaran12345, you should contact the authorities and ask about the legality.
[05:08] <mrtaran12345> why
[05:08] <mrtaran12345> i watch porn
[05:08] <mrtaran12345> thats not legal
[05:08] <mrtaran12345> do you download torrents
[05:08] <mrtaran12345> i think you do :P
[05:08] <Jucato> !language
[05:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:08] <mrtaran12345> sorry
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> Yes, I download plenty of linux distros off bittorent
[05:08] <Jucato> :)
[05:08] <grem> !flv
[05:08] <mrtaran12345> ash: ha .. ha .. ha
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <grem> anyone know a nice .flv player?
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> mrtaran12345, I'm not joking.
[05:09] <mrtaran12345> ash: you dont download anything else off BT?
[05:09] <mrtaran12345> lol
[05:09] <mrtaran12345> god...........
[05:09] <mrtaran12345> paranoid guys
[05:09] <Jucato> let's not get carried away from the topic please?
[05:09] <mrtaran12345> lol
[05:09] <Ash-Fox> mrtaran12345, yes, like, WoW patches.
[05:10] <luis_lopez> Hi, does anybody know if there's a way of doing multiterminal/multiseat in kubuntu?
[05:10] <Ash-Fox> luis_lopez, you mean something like terminal services?
[05:11] <mrtaran12345> can someone please send me madwifi-ng-r1756.patch  on this site http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/
[05:11] <luis_lopez> multiseat: having two or more displays and keyboards attached to the same CPU
[05:13] <luis_lopez> there's a procedure described in the ubuntu community documentation but  includes a step for gdm
[05:13] <Ash-Fox> luis_lopez, I'm sure it's possible with xserver configurations, but I've never done such a thing before so I can't really advise you how todo it.
[05:14] <Ash-Fox> I had a aqaitence who did such a thing -- He had multiple X server proccesses setup for each display.
[05:14] <ubuntu> i just installed kubuntu 6.06 on my old p3 laptop....last night ubuntu 5.10 is working but i decided to switch to kubuntu.... now the internet connection wont work anyone who could help?
[05:16] <Ash-Fox> ubuntu, you can setup networking under the 'System settings' icon under the [k]  menu. But I can't help you any futher without more information on how it's connected etc.
[05:16] <JosefK> gnomefreak: is it likely the RC is just the 17.1/17.2 daily's with updated artwork packages?
[05:16] <fildo> *goners
[05:17] <gnomefreak> JosefK: no not really there are updates to the installer
[05:17] <ubuntu> ok, i have a dsl connection, modem>router>2 pcs...this pc im using a live cd now of kubuntu 6.06 which i also used to install kubuntu on my other pc (laptop) that now has no connection.,.. but it did have when it was 5.10
[05:17] <JosefK> gnomefreak: ah, thanks for the heads-up
[05:17] <gnomefreak> the 18th was the closest to rc but still will need to update the iso
[05:23] <yokobr> hi9
[05:23] <yokobr> my kubuntu is not running sudo kate, or kwrite
[05:24] <Jucato> yokobr: try "kdesu kate"
[05:25] <yokobr> worked, but with some error msgs too
[05:26] <yokobr> what can it be?
[05:27] <Jucato> yokobr: those error messages are harmless
[05:27] <Jucato> they're just saying that it's trying to detect touchpad devices and failed
[05:28] <yokobr> but why i cant use sudo?
[05:30] <zoetrope> hello
[05:34] <Jucato> !kdesu
[05:34] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:34] <Jucato> yokobr: ^^^^^
[05:37] <Hawkwind> Ash-Fox: You can use kdesu and gksudo in Mandriva just like any other distro
[05:38] <floe> hi all
[05:38] <Ash-Fox> Hawkwind, that wasn't what I was saying. I just found it interesting that I could 'sudo <graphical app>' on mandriva, and not on other distros.
[05:39] <Hawkwind> It's because sudo is setup differently in Ubuntu.  You can use sudo <gui app> in any other distro except Ubuntu really
[05:40] <floe> I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu for friend of mine a few days ago. He said he isn't able to play mp3s with amarok or watch movies with kaffeine. Shouldn't that work out of the box?
[05:40] <Kennie`> what kernel package i need for SMP support?
[05:40] <Kennie`> cus i see so many lol
[05:40] <Hawkwind> Kennie`: linux-686
[05:40] <Jucato> floe: no
[05:40] <Jucato> !mp3
[05:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:40] <Hawkwind> !mp3 > floe
[05:40] <Jucato> floe: read the RestrictedFormats page
[05:40] <Kennie`> Hawkwind not the linux-686-SMP?
[05:41] <Blacken> Kennie`: linux-686-smp is what you need.
[05:41] <Kennie`> k
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Kennie`: No.  You can install linux-686
[05:41] <floe> ok, thx
[05:41] <Blacken> Hawkwind: You can? It refused to work with my Duo.
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Blacken: linux-686-smp won't get him what he needs
[05:41] <Blacken> Hawkwind: It's worked every time for me...
[05:41] <Kennie`> ah well will try
[05:42] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Why won't that work?
[05:42] <Kennie`> i ever had it work, cant remember wich i one picked
[05:42] <Kennie`> eh one i*
[05:43] <ubuntu> anyone can help me out setting  up my net with my laptop using kubuntu 6.06 and a pcmcia ethernet card
[05:43] <Blacken> ubuntu: Depends. What's the machine, who's the card manufacturer?
[05:43] <Kennie`> Blacken tnx worked with -smp :)
[05:44] <Blacken> Hawkwind: Seriously, though, why wouldn't 686-smp be what he needs?
[05:44] <ubuntu> its an old dell cpx p3 laptop surecom pcmcia ...last night while running ubuntu 5.10 net is working fine.,...even now when i boot windows using that same machine net is good but when i boot kubuntu no net at all
[05:44] <Kennie`> i did need to -smp i think
[05:44] <Kennie`> cus it works now with 2 cores
[05:44] <Kennie`> instead of 1
[05:45] <Kennie`> (on a centrino duo)
[05:45] <Blacken> ubuntu: Sorry, unfamiliar with the hardware. Give me a sec, I'll poke the wiki.
[05:45] <weedar> I have an mp3 player that connects fine to my laptop running kubuntu-dapper, but on my desktop (also running kubuntu-dapper) it is not mounted - nor are there any /dev/sdX files created when connecting it. It is however charging via USB
[05:45] <weedar> Does anyone have any suggestions?
[05:46] <Blacken> weedar: Is hotplug running?
[05:46] <Blacken> ubuntu: I do not see that card on the list at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[05:47] <weedar> Black: will lsmod reveal this? running "lsmod | grep hotplug" results in the following: pci_hotplug            29236  1 shpchp
[05:47] <weedar> sorry, that should've been Blacken
[05:47] <ubuntu> well its not a wifi card its a 10mb ethernet
[05:47] <Blacken> weedar: I'm not sure. I don't know much about how USB devices work under Linux.
[05:47] <Blacken> ubuntu: Oh, sorry, my bad. Hrm...
[05:47] <ubuntu> and ubuntu kubuntu 5.10 works on it ithout any configuration at all..
[05:48] <Blacken> ubuntu: In that case, I don't know. Sorry.
[05:48] <wimpies> I have this strange problemw with 3.5.5 KDE where sometimes my windows fight for focus
[05:48] <Kennie`> does hybernate work properly under kubuntu? i've read someone that you need to add boot parameter resume=/dev/xdax right?
[05:48] <Blacken> Kennie`: It works for my roommate, I've never been bothered to make it work on my Inspiron.
[05:49] <LjL> Kennie`: normally you don't, it should just work. i reckon it has problems on a few machines, though
[05:49] <Kennie`> k, gonna try
[05:49] <Kennie`> hope it does work
[05:49] <Blacken> LjL: My roommate did have to fiddle with it on his R60.
[05:49] <LjL> Kennie`: even if it doesn't, nothing too bad should happen. just close programs and save data, and perhaps type a "sync" before hibernating
[05:50] <Kennie`> had on some other systems that it crashes and crap happening
[05:51] <ricardo> hi everybody....what do u think about upgrading to edgy? is it stable enough?
[05:52] <LjL> !edgy
[05:52] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:54] <Blacken> Kennie`: If you are having any difficulties at all with Dapper, give it some more time.
[05:54] <ubuntu> oh well..... is there a distro that will just work hehe.... kinda getitng tired
[05:55] <Jucato> ubuntu: you can try so many others :)
[05:55] <Blacken> If Ubuntu doesn't work out of the box, few others will.
[05:55] <Blacken> If any.
[05:56] <ubuntu> it does work i really guess there msut be somehting in the settings.... i jsut find it weird that the older verison works perfectlywell but the new one doesnt
[05:56] <Jucato> Blacken: well, you can't always be 100% sure on that one.
[05:56] <zoetrope666> I love ubuntu :D
[05:56] <zoetrope666> just wanted to say that ... hehe
[05:56] <Jucato> lol
[05:57] <Blacken> Jucato: As I said. Few, if any, will.
[05:58] <Blacken> Hrm. Is it possible to add a hibernate button/widget to the K menu or to the "log out" menu?
[05:58] <Blacken> Or the panel...I'm not picky.
[05:59] <zoetrope666> does anyone know if there's an ubuntu channel for AUstralia?
[05:59] <Jucato> !au
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about au - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <gerhard> 073564556
[06:00] <Blacken> !hibernate
[06:00] <ubotu> hibernate: activates your computer's suspend functionality. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 328 kB
[06:00] <trappist_> zoetrope666: create one!
[06:00] <Jucato> zoetrope666: only an #ubuntu-au
[06:01] <zoetrope666> ok.. what's LoCO?
[06:02] <Jucato> Local Community
[06:03] <zoetrope666> Ohh, ok
[06:03] <zoetrope666> lol thanks
[06:03] <Jucato> np
[06:03] <Jucato> :)
[06:03] <zoetrope666> asl??
[06:04] <Jucato> -offtopic :P
[06:04] <zoetrope666> 20/f/Perth, Australia
[06:04] <Jucato> 23/m/Manila,Philippines (but let's not talk about these things in here :P)
[06:05] <zoetrope666> Oh no worries, just wondering about where you're all from
[06:05] <gameman72> quick kde question, can you make a shell script run when you click on it?
[06:05] <zoetrope666> I've been writing on Linux/Ubuntu at uni and just interested in how international it is.
[06:05] <zoetrope666> Thanks anyway :P
[06:05] <Jucato> gameman72: afaik, yes
[06:06] <Jucato> just make it executable
[06:06] <gameman72> it opens in a text editor
[06:06] <Jucato> zoetrope666: oh it's very international.
[06:06] <rainbow> ls -l
[06:06] <Jucato> gameman72: even if it's executable already? Right-click on it, Permissions tab and double check that "Exectuable" is enabled
[06:06] <rainbow> -help
[06:06] <gameman72> Jucato: yeah its executable, i can do ./script.sh
[06:07] <Jucato> hm...
[06:07] <yokobr> hi
[06:07] <gameman72> hi
[06:08] <rainbow> hi
[06:11] <gameman72> no other ideas to run shell scripts from kde?
[06:11] <LjL> gameman72: scripts *do* run when you click on then. they just don't open a console.
[06:11] <gameman72> ohhhh...  any way to make them open a console?
[06:13] <LjL> gameman72: don't think so, at least without modifying the script somehow. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124681
[06:13] <yokobr> gnome is so much better than kde
[06:14] <LjL> yokobr: that's a good topic for #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic :-)
[06:15] <gameman72> ok so you can set konsole to run a script, thats an alternative
[06:15] <LjL> gameman72: yeah, you could do that i suppose
[06:15] <joscha> gameman72: you can open the shellscript with konsole -e yourscript.sh
[06:15] <JosefK> is there any way to delete the "Cool Streams" stuff from Amarok, because frankly, I find them neither interesting nor 'cool'
[06:15] <joscha> and add an applicationhelper (konsole -e) to .sh files
[06:16] <trappist> isn't "run in a console" an option in an icon's properties?
[06:16] <davide_> hi guys!
[06:16] <joscha> then you can right click - open with - konsole
[06:16] <joscha> trappist: no
[06:16] <gameman72> trappist: yeah but i wanted something a bit faster  (i managed to force xterm into the open with menu)
[06:17] <trappist> sure, under advanced options, run in terminal
[06:17] <trappist> joscha: ^
[06:18] <joscha> trappist: can't find that option here
[06:18] <gameman72> http://www.slexy.org/paste/159  i get that error
[06:19] <zoetrope666> hey, does anyone know a way that i can connect to the internet using my laptop without having to use modprobe to load the driver, then into networking, autodetect the modem, and then connect.
[06:20] <trappist> joscha: should be in a link to an application
[06:20] <joscha> trappist: ah you can do this with an link to an .sh script, not with an .sh script itself
[06:20] <gameman72> zoetrope666: what kind of modem
[06:20] <zoetrope666> the modem doesnt seem to install permanently
[06:20] <trappist> joscha: right
[06:21] <Chm0d> could anyone please tell me how to completely remove mythtv?
[06:21] <trappist> joscha: or you can play with the shell script file association, and treat all shell scripts that way
[06:21] <trappist> Chm0d: depends how you installed it
[06:21] <Chm0d> apt-get
[06:21] <gameman72> ok, a link works just as well
[06:21] <joscha> apt-get remove mythtv
[06:21] <gameman72> *shortcut
[06:22] <Chm0d> tried that i get an error about access denied from mythtv database
[06:23] <gameman72> ok, thanks for the help guys,  later
[06:23] <trappist> Chm0d: try removing database stuff from /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythtv*.postrm, and drop the database manually
[06:24] <Chm0d> do i just trash everything in there?
[06:26] <timothy_> what is a good samaba client for kubuntu?
[06:27] <HouseOfBugs> what is a good samaba client for kubuntu?
[06:27] <joscha> konqueror
[06:27] <joscha> smb:/
[06:27] <HouseOfBugs> ok
[06:27] <Xzanron> i'd prefer smb4k but i just cannot find a package for it :(
[06:28] <root> hi
[06:28] <rag> please, aptitude install any-software -y not works for me
[06:28] <rag> how to assume yes for all questions?
[06:29] <rag> is it dangerous?
[06:29] <root> ist hier jemand aus deutschland?
[06:29] <abattoir> !de
[06:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:30] <root> @ubotu ich wollte nur wissen ob jemand aus DE ist. ich habe keine frage
[06:31] <rag> how to assume yes for all questions? on aptitude install any-software -y
[06:32] <rag> -y not work for me!
[06:32] <joscha> with yes
[06:32] <rag> -yes?
[06:32] <rag> with -yes?
[06:32] <JosefK> --assume-yes
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Rag: Got your answer?
[06:33] <JosefK> aptitude --assume-yes install *packages*
[06:33] <DaSkreech> or yes | aptitude install *
[06:34] <rag> DaSkreech: aptitude install any-soft -y
[06:34] <JosefK> ^ dangerous
[06:34] <rag> DaSkreech: not worf for me
[06:34] <JosefK> rag: sudo aptitude --assume-yes install
[06:34] <HouseOfBugs> smb4k ?
[06:34] <rag> DaSkreech: for assume yes in all questions
[06:34] <HouseOfBugs> where can i get it
[06:34] <rag> DaSkreech: ok thx i test it
[06:34] <zoetrope> argh sorry
[06:34] <HouseOfBugs> also what is a good program that is like daemon tools?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> HouseOfBugs: smb:/ doesn't work?
[06:35] <waylandbill> yipe.. assume yes even for conflicts....
[06:35] <JosefK> HouseOfBugs: it's built in :) mount can do it
[06:35] <DaSkreech> HouseOfBugs: Which daemon tools?
[06:35] <JosefK> waylandbill: nah, afaik assume-yes fails at conflicts/GPG problems
[06:35] <zoetrope> any ideas re: my previous query on the modem?
[06:35] <rag> Josefk: why dangerous, can you explain me ?
[06:35] <joscha> mount -o loop /your/isofile /mnt/your/directory/to/mount
[06:35] <DaSkreech> !seen intellikey
[06:35] <ubotu> I haven't seen intellikey recently
[06:35] <yokobr> hi...im having trouble to install xgl beryl in kubunty
[06:35] <JosefK> echoing yes through aptitude could be dangerous
[06:35] <HouseOfBugs> DaSkreech: smb:/ works
[06:35] <yokobr> hi...im having trouble to install xgl beryl in kubuntu
[06:36] <waylandbill> JosefK, that's a good thing. :)
[06:36] <DaSkreech> HouseOfBugs: Sweet
[06:36] <rag> JosefK: why?
[06:36] <HouseOfBugs> can baryl run on an intel 855pm?
[06:36] <rag> JosefK: spanish?=
[06:36] <JosefK> waylandbill: indeed :) and rag - for the cases that waylandbill mentioned - conflicts/key problems etc.
[06:36] <JosefK> rag: nope
[06:36] <rag> nope?
[06:36] <JosefK> rag: no :)
[06:36] <DaSkreech> HouseOfBugs: Ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:37] <rag> JosefK: ok, jose i need doing silent installations a lot machines
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know why my upslash is being updated
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> the art that is
[06:38] <rag> JosefK: i need automatic process , i doing it with ssh and RSA without pwd
[06:38] <JosefK> rag: if you want completely silent installations you'll need to use pre-selects for debconf, for most cases 'aptitude --assume-yes install *packages*' will do
[06:38] <rag> JosefK: pre-selects for debcont, what is this, please give a link
[06:39] <JosefK> rag: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apb.html
[06:39] <rag> JosefK: thx
[06:39] <JosefK> rag: that's debian, maybe you can find a newer version for Ubuntu, but the principles are the same
[06:40] <JosefK> rag: namely, the section you need is http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs04.html#preseed-other
[06:41] <dhq> i am on kubuntu is there any software to monitor apache status
[06:42] <rag> JosefK: what is preseeding concept?
[06:43] <JosefK> rag: have you ever seen the configuration dialogs that aptitude throws up occasionally?
[06:43] <rag> JosefK: but this is for a control any flow installation?
[06:43] <JosefK> rag: if you want to guarauntee a silent installation, you can't just rely on 'aptitude --assume-yes'
[06:48] <rag> JosefK: i use aptitude from console, not graphics
[06:48] <JosefK> rag: yes, you might still get debconf dialogs
[06:48] <fdoving> rag, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf' and set it to 'noninteractive'
[06:48] <rag> Josefk; ok to control the flow, true?
[06:48] <fdoving> then you won't get that problem.
[06:48] <rag> fdovin: i dont understand
[06:48] <rag> fdoving: is it for disable all interactive for any installations?
[06:48] <fdoving> rag, it disables the debconf dialogs josefk is talking about. you will still need --assume-yes for aptitude stuff.
[06:48] <rag> fdoving: JosefK: my question is , which is the risk for --assume-yes for any software-users
[06:48] <rag>  fdoving: JosefK: only software-users, typical client software
[06:48] <JosefK> no risk for assume-yes, from the manpage "Prompts for 'dangerous' actions, such as removing essential packages, will still be displayed"
[06:48] <fdoving> rag, not much. once the system is installed the upgrades shouldn't need any interaction. however, that might not always be true. removing essential packages won't happen without user interaction anyway.
[06:48] <JosefK> rag, but we're assuming you wouldn't want to do that anyway, and by the time you did you'd have bigger problems
[06:49] <rag>  fdoving: JosefK: what is your solution?
[06:50] <yokobr> please guys, take a look http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/838
[06:50] <rag>  fdoving: JosefK: i need install software , new software on clients, each time, for a good services
[06:50] <rag>  fdoving: JosefK: is for a internet public access center, cybercafes
[06:51] <inteliwasp> has anyone have any comments on linux flash 9 beta?
[06:51] <rag>  fdoving: JosefK: idea is, renove and sorprise clients of my cyber clients with new software, eyecandys etc
[06:53] <livingdaylight> what version of flash does kubuntu come with?
[06:53] <rag>  fdoving: JosefK: then --assume-yes for all installations is problem for me?
[06:53] <willreed03> so anyone know why java doesnt work in some sites but works in others?
[06:53] <livingdaylight> is flash 8 for Linux available?
[06:53] <CVirus> nope
[06:53] <livingdaylight> thx sux
[06:53] <livingdaylight> flash7 then is it?
[06:53] <ubuntu> anyone ehre who can help me with these? at the bottom : cant creat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases permission denied and cant create /var/run/dhclient.pid permission denied and drop_privileges could not set up group id :operation not permitted thats about it
[06:53] <livingdaylight> !flash
[06:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:54] <inteliwasp> livingdaylight:  kubuntu does not come with it, it needs to be downloded fom adobe
[06:54] <livingdaylight> inteliwasp: yea, but what version is it? adobe? you mean macromedia?
[06:54] <fdoving> rag, try. i doubt it will be a problem. but for some packages (mostly server apps) it can be a problem. but since you say user-apps, i don't think it will be a problem.
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> livingdaylight: flash  is out
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> 9 beta*
[06:55] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: flash is out?
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> li
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> livingdaylight: 9 beta. i'm using it now
[06:55] <rag> fdoving: it's is only for user-apps
[06:56] <fdoving> rag, then i'd say go for it.
[06:56] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: so where did flash 8 go?
[06:56] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: i don't even remember flash 8
[06:56] <inteliwasp> moved to /ev/null   :P
[06:56] <inteliwasp> i mean /dev/null
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> livingdaylight: thats because it wasn't released for linux
[06:56] <BonBonTheJon> where can i find a list of changes from dapper and edgy
[06:56] <rag> fdoving: JosefK: ok thx, if i fail i learning... ;)
[06:57] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: well i'm referring to Linux obviously
[06:57] <rag> fdoving: explain me, last comment please
[06:57] <ubuntu> anyone who can help me? with this at the bottom : cant creat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases permission denied and cant create /var/run/dhclient.pid permission denied and drop_privileges could not set up group id :operation not permitted thats about it
[06:57] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: so you're not using LInux?
[06:57] <rag> fdoving: then id say...
[06:57] <ubuntu> kinda desperate on having internet
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> livingdaylight: no i am on Kubuntu Edgy
[06:58] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: what are you doing that is making it say that
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> but i installed the plug in. i went from 7 to 9 beta
[06:58] <ubuntu> dhclient eth0
[06:58] <fdoving> rag, i would say, use --assume-yes, and the 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf' -> noninteractive.
[06:58] <BonBonTheJon> ubuntu: try 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[06:58] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: you're not making sense to me... flash 8,9 is not available for Linux but you're using flash 9beta in Kubuntu-Edgy?
[06:58] <livingdaylight> Admiral_Chicago: can you tell me how i can upgrade to 9beta?
[06:58] <Skrot> Flash 9 beta was just released
[06:59] <Skrot> for linux
[06:59] <rag> fdoving: i don't understand "dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf' -> noninteractive"
[06:59] <livingdaylight> Skrot: where, how?!
[06:59] <rag> fdoving: what is it?
[06:59] <Skrot> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/beta_is_live.html - Flash 9