[00:00] <f^3> Is there a unity channel?
[00:01] <cuddylier> How do I update my java 7? My version doesn't include jstack, I have jdk
[00:01] <cuddylier> openjdk
[00:01] <jhansonxi> f^3: Try #ubuntu-unity
[00:01] <Neytiri> thanks
[00:02] <Mech0z> any way to remove all settings for an app installed with apt-get?
[00:03] <gac> Mech0z: "apt-get purge packagename" should remove all config files that were shipped with it, if they were created by you after it was installed that won't work though.
[00:06] <KI4RO> KBentley57, Well, I made it back with a new BIOS LOL  No change in the RESTART button
[00:06] <Ledder> alfabit i still got the same problem
[00:07] <Mech0z> gac cool
[00:07] <Neytiri> how do i find out where a library got installed
[00:07] <Ledder> alfabit and i can't manage to uninstall it
[00:07] <KI4RO> KBentley57, Do I need to clean up after myself in pastebin?
[00:08] <cuddylier> How do I update my java 7jdk? My version doesn't include jstack unfortunately.
[00:08] <alfabit> Ledder: Try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox
[00:09] <mcsmash> Who's idea was it to move handling the video into the kernel?  I spotted a web site that said it was to enable high resolution non flickering splash screen.  Tell me there was another reason for doing that...
[00:10] <Ledder> alfabit "No suitable module for running kernel found"
[00:10] <alfabit> Ledder: that's normal. Now we just need to get it to make that module..
[00:10] <alfabit> Ledder: sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox-dkms
[00:11] <Ledder> ok and that's the question how we get htat done
[00:11] <jhansonxi> Neytiri: dpkg-query -S <filename>
[00:11] <alfabit> mcsmash: look up 'Wayland' some time if you want to read all about it..
[00:12] <cuddylier> How do I update my java 7jdk? My version doesn't include jstack unfortunately.
[00:12] <alfabit> mcsmash: Unfortunately it did break a lot of things on the way.
[00:12] <Ledder> ok no fail message with the dkms
[00:13] <alfabit> Ledder, now try sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox  (yup - again)
[00:13] <Ledder> alfabit you suggest i try again or something else to do?
[00:13] <alfabit> Ledder, let's see if you get the error about no modules again, now that dkms sources are installed.
[00:13] <Ledder> twice a ok
[00:14] <Ledder> looks not bad
[00:14] <alfabit> Ledder, now what happens when you start VirtualBox ?
[00:14] <Ledder> ok i try to remake a win7 installation
[00:15] <jhansonxi> KI4RO: Are you having problems getting your system to restart properly?
[00:16] <KI4RO> jhansonxi, Yes
[00:16] <Ledder> ok windows is loading but is giving an error message
[00:16] <jhansonxi> Try adding the "reboot=bios" kernel parameter to your grub boot line
[00:16] <Ledder> wich is related to the iso source
[00:16] <Ledder> i guess
[00:18] <jhansonxi> KI4RO: In addition to the "reboot=bios" parameter, there are several other possible options: http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[00:18] <KI4RO> jhansonxi, reboot=bios?  What is that?
[00:19] <jhansonxi> KI4RO: It tells the kernel to use a different method when attempting to restart the system.
[00:19] <KI4RO> jhansonxi, Okay, never tried that...how does it work?
[00:20] <jhansonxi> KI4RO: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions  and  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:20] <KI4RO> jhansonxi, okay
[00:22] <Stars> i need some help with tar a backup, how do i write excluded some folders?
[00:23] <Ledder> alfabit virtualbox is runnign correctly but windows is causing problems
[00:23] <Ledder> and i'm not sure if it's my config odr something else
[00:23] <alfabit> Ledder: can't help ya there! :-)
[00:23] <Ledder> ok but thx so long for the virtualbox
[00:24] <alfabit> Ledder, sure np. Check out the forums, I am sure other people have documented what windows requires.
[00:24] <Ledder> will do so
[00:24] <teclado> hello, sorry for interrupt. Is there somebody who can help me with a problem with nautilus? Its menus has dissapeared!
[00:25] <KangArie> Ledder, what kind of problem? any error messages?
[00:25] <Ledder> Error message:
[00:25] <nono> sudo dpkg-reconfigure nautilus
[00:26] <teclado> if that one has spoken spanish the thing would be easier
[00:26] <Ledder> Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause
[00:26] <teclado> no effect
[00:27] <nono> nautilus -q
[00:28] <teclado> ok
[00:28] <teclado> that worked fine
[00:28] <nono> :-)
[00:28] <teclado> thank you
[00:29] <teclado> i hope not have to do it too often
[00:32] <KangArie> Ledder, what windows version? XP, 7, 8 ?
[00:32] <Shuboni_> Good evening, I was hoping someone could help me out with a problem I'm having.  It's kind of going in circles, and has been for a while now.
[00:33] <KangArie> Shuboni_, what problem?
[00:34] <Shuboni_> Well, I'm trying to install Steam.  When I try to install it using gdebi, it says that I need zenity 3.4.0.  So, I try to install zenity, again with gdebi.  I get an error saying I need zenity-common.
[00:34] <Ledder> 7 i try
[00:35] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Use your package manager to install Zenity (Ubuntu Software Center, Synaptic Package Manager, aptitude, apt-get, etc.)
[00:35] <Shuboni_> I tried, but the package manager says that I already have it.
[00:35] <Shuboni_> Yet, Steam says I don't.
[00:36] <Shuboni_> Er... gdebi says I don't when I try to install Steam
[00:37] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Try: sudo apt-get -f install
[00:38] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi:  Let me try that.
[00:38] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Note that the steam package is just a downloader for the client.  Each user has to install their own copy of the client.  They will be prompted to do so when they log in.
[00:41] <Shuboni_> So, I tried sudo apt-get -f install, then I looked in the software center, and that said that I already had it installed.  I tried installing Steam using gdebi, and I got this error: Dependency is not satisfiable: zenity (>= 3.4.0-0ubuntu4)
[00:41] <jrib> Shuboni_: apt-cache policy zenity
[00:41] <jrib> Shuboni_: first run "sudo apt-get update" though
[00:42] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Then it's not missing but the version installed is too old for Steam
[00:42] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:43] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi: I'm using 11.04
[00:43] <alfabit> Shuboni_, yes, I am on 12.10 and I have 3.4.0-2. Looks like they didn't leave much room for older versions.
[00:43] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: Steam is targeting Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin)
[00:43] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi:  I had a lot of problems installing 12.04, that's why I stuck with 11.04.
[00:44] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: The version of Zenity in the 11.04 repositories is apparently too old.
[00:45] <jacesf> for some reason i get sound only from one website, my personal music server. i get no audio through amarok, mocp, pandora website, nothing. any ideas?
[00:45] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi:  Does this mean that the only way for me to get this to work is to upgrade to 12.04?
[00:46] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: You could try 12.10 or, depending on the problems you encountered, Linux Mint 13 or newer.  It's probably not feasible to get Zenity on 11.04 but you could look for a PPA or backports with the newer Zenity.
[00:47] <Shuboni_> jhansonxi:  I'm sorry, could you explain how I might go about doing that?
[00:49] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: "PPA" repositories are unsupported repositories from various individuals.  Search for "zenity ppa" to see if any exist then check them for packages for "natty" (the release name for 11.04).  The "backports" repositories are semi-official and can be enabled through Synaptic.
[00:51] <alfabit> I am fighting a Streamzap infrared remote + infrared receiver on Ubuntu. Have a 10.10 installation and a 12.04 and live CDs for 11.10 and 12.10.
[00:52] <mrgt> ubuntu won't boot. getting "gave up waiting for root device" message.
[00:52] <alfabit> The Streamzap is detected on all releases but only mode2 shows keypresses, nothing in irw.
[00:53] <alfabit> Does anyone here have a working remote control setup on any recent Ubuntu release ?
[00:53] <jhansonxi> mrgt: Couldn't find the / volume.  Is this a new install or a previously functioning Ubuntu system?
[00:55] <Shuboni_> How do you enable the backports repositories?
[00:55] <mrgt> jhansonxi, previously functioning. In additional drivers I selected the experimental driver to try and get my screen to adjust to the correct resolution . Suppose that's what I get for selecting something like that : /
[00:56] <jhansonxi> Shuboni_: In the Synaptic package manager there is a menu option for configuring repositories.  The other method is to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file directly (not recommended unless you know what you are doing).
[00:57] <jhansonxi> mrgt: A video driver shouldn't affect that.  But if the driver required the creation of a kernel image, and the system ran out of space on the / volume, the image may be incomplete.  Also, are you using RAID? Encryption?
[00:58] <mrgt> jhansonxi, that's weird. There was plenty of space.. I'm not using RAID or Encryption .
[00:59] <jhansonxi> mrgt: You can try a previous kernel by holding down the Shift key during boot (before Ubuntu loads) to access the grub boot menu.  Then select one of the other kernel images.    That was the biggest problem when I tried to install it.
[01:00] <hangdeadman> Hey my wireless mouse just stopped working on ubuntu 12.04 how can I figure out what the problem is?
[01:00] <mrgt> jhansonxi, at the grub menu. I get 4 options. Which one should I select?
[01:01] <alfabit> hangdeadman, check the batteries ?
[01:01] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, renew the battery's and see if that solves it
[01:01] <mrgt> jhansonxi, I get Ubuntu, Advanced Options.., Memory test.., memory test
[01:01] <jacesf> for some reason i get sound only from one website, my personal music server. i get no audio through amarok, mocp, pandora website, nothing. any ideas?\
[01:02] <jhansonxi> mrgt: The top one will be your current kernel.  Try an older version (if any).
[01:02] <hangdeadman> OerHeks:  batteries are good. the light is also still on on the mouse. it just doesn't move my pointer anymore. i have restarted my system and still have the same problem.
[01:02] <mrgt> jhansonxi, there doesn't seem to be an older one :/
[01:03] <mrgt> jhansonxi, oh.. wait
[01:03] <alfabit> hangdeadman, have you already un-plugged and re-plugged the wireless mouse receiver?
[01:03] <hangdeadman> alfabit: yes
[01:03] <alfabit> hangdeadman, while Ubuntu was running, right ?
[01:04] <hangdeadman> yes, also while the system was powered down.
[01:04] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, maybe the mouse is broken, if the light works but does not respond and unplug/plgin the adapter does not solve it
[01:05] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, you had problems with it yesterday too, didn't you ?
[01:05] <hangdeadman> no, this is the first time i've had problems with my mouse.
[01:06] <nono> http://www.ritimo.org/
[01:06] <alfabit> hangdeadman, yes, I agree with OerHeks, might be a good idea to verify on a 2nd computer, or while booted from a live CD..
[01:07] <hangdeadman> I'll try booting from a livecd as this is my only computer. I'll check back.
[01:11] <sinan> slmlar
[01:11] <Guest10928> slm
[01:11] <Guest10928> nick sinan
[01:13] <jhansonxi> mrgt: If this is a new installation then it won't have any older kernels because it has never updated the kernel yet.  One possibility - if you have (or had) a removable drive (USB flash, etc.) connected when you booted, it may cause the BIOS to change drive IDs which can confuse Grub.    Are you using the AMD fglrx driver?
[01:27] <alcaprawn> but now my cpu is hitting like 67c idle?
[01:28] <alcaprawn> nardev, if u can help please do so!
[01:28] <alcaprawn> i used to have aticonfig for cli, but now thats gone8
[01:28] <alcaprawn> jhansonxi: im sure its barts drivers
[01:28] <alcaprawn> how can i check though?
[01:28] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: The chip on the video card is a GPU, not CPU, or do you have a APU (combination CPU+GPU)
[01:28] <qkit> morning guys
[01:29] <alcaprawn> sorry did i say cpu?
[01:29] <nono> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/amd-ati
[01:29] <alcaprawn> yeh yeh gpu*
[01:29] <alcaprawn> im drunk out my head
[01:29] <qkit> i having problem trying to install my k3b
[01:29] <qkit> i keep getting k3b : Depends: kde-runtime but it is not going to be installed
[01:29] <nono> alcaprawn: links!!
[01:29] <alfabit> qkit: Try: sudo apt-get install k3b kde-runtime
[01:29] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: "barts drivers"?
[01:30] <alfabit> yeah sounds fishy don't it ha!
[01:30] <jacesf> for some reason i get sound only from one website, my personal music server. i get no audio through amarok, mocp, pandora website, nothing. any ideas?\
[01:30] <nono> grooveshark
[01:31] <alfabit> jacesf, was thinking about that..no solutions, but some ideas. Sounds like something is tying up your sound card
[01:31] <qkit> alfabit: i'm getting k3b : Depends: libk3b6 (= 2.0.2-3ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[01:31] <alfabit> jacesf, or maybe you don't have privs to the sound devices
[01:31] <OerHeks> nono grooveshark and french urls are not helpfull here
[01:31] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: "BARTS" appears to be the code name for the chip, not the driver: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man4/radeon.4.html
[01:31] <nono> DerHeks/ oki sorry
[01:32] <alfabit> qkit, maybe your package list is confused (a recent major version upgrade?)
[01:32] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: The Linux driver would be either fglrx (closed source driver from AMD) or radeon (open source)
[01:32] <jacesf> alfabit: not sure how long its been like this, just noticed it, prives should not have changed.  Did apt-get just stop working recently ?
[01:35] <alcaprawn> it did happen before but i forgot how i fixed it >.< and iv been using slackware ever since
[01:36] <qkit> alfabit: normally i using apt-get install
[01:36] <jhansonxi> alcaprawn: There are two ways to install it - Jockey (the Ubuntu "Additional Drivers" applet) or manually using the installer from AMD's web site.  The radeon driver is missing many features and may not support power management on your card.
[01:37] <OerHeks> alcaprawn, maybe xorg-edgers ppa with newer drivers solve your issue > https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[01:38] <alfabit> qkit, are simpler packages installing correctly? (sudo apt-get install symlinks, for example?)
[01:38] <alcaprawn> latest ati drivers has bugs with latest xorg-version
[01:38] <alcaprawn> am i correct?
[01:38] <alfabit> qkit, just wondering if maybe there is a problem with the Ubuntu repo you are pointing at.
[01:39] <qkit> alfabit: yup that one installed successfully
[01:39] <alfabit> qkit, ok, good. What Ubuntu mirrors are you pointing at? (in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[01:40] <qkit> alfabit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <qkit> oops..
[01:40] <Pecker> does anyone know what kernel version support for the PS3's navigation controller was added in?
[01:41] <alfabit> qkit, hope you didn't try to paste :)
[01:41] <qkit> alfabit: http://www.mirror.upm.edu.my/
[01:41] <nono> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/sources.list
[01:41] <alfabit> qkit: I would start by pointing at a different mirror.
[01:41] <alfabit> qkit: also making sure you have multiverse and universe both enabled. Actually that could be your issue.
[01:41] <qkit> alfabit: ok, let me try it
[01:42] <qkit> how can i enable multiverse and universe?
[01:42] <alfabit> qkit, in a normal/unmodified sources.list they will be predefined for you, but may have been commented out (or the mirror could have dropped those collections)
[01:43] <OerHeks> Pecker, it is not in the kernel, here is a howto > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis
[01:44] <alfabit> qkit, it's usually something like deb http://some-ubuntu-mirror.org/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
[01:44] <qkit> alfabit: wow, it works. Thanks
[01:53] <Stars> i need some help with tar a backup, how do i write excluded some folders?
[01:54] <brady2600> anyone know of a dreamweaver like application for editing webpages?
[01:54] <brady2600> i have aptana studio, but have been unable to find any interface for directly editing the page like its a document , i like that for doing quick resizing and moving of visual elements around on a page rather than coding it all by hand
[01:54] <brontosaurusrex> brady2600: there is none
[01:55] <OerHeks> Stars, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR   >>>> " tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz --exclude=/backup.tar.gz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/sys --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/dev /   "
[01:55] <Stars> OerHeks, thanks alot
[01:55] <brady2600> it thought a while back mozilla made something like thaqt
[01:55] <alfabit> brady2600: mozilla composer iirc
[01:55] <brady2600> i find it hard to believe that there is nothing at all out there for linux for visual manipulation of pages
[01:56] <alfabit> brady2600, might still be part of seamonkey
[01:56] <alfabit> although I don't see that in the repo any longer
[01:57] <alfabit> brady2600, you could try bluefish, but it is not dreamweaver by a long shot. I haven't used it in 5+ yrs, don't know what it does now though..
[01:59] <sanna> Hello I have problem with my wireless drivers
[02:00] <sanna> Since now that i have installed them, my computer doesent regonize my wireless
[02:00] <UbuntuWarrior> what is the exact problem sanna?
[02:00] <sanna> I have HP pavilion dv9000
[02:00] <sanna> And i have look 1 post on the ubuntu forums
[02:00] <sanna> but no help
[02:01] <sanna> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1357525
[02:01] <antivapor> hi. I currently use nomodeset added in my grub when booting so that my monitor works. Any tips on a more permanent solution?
[02:01] <hangdeadman> How do I use a playstation 3 controller as a mouse in ubuntu 12.04 via usb?
[02:02] <sanna> I have also my old XP still installed and works fine in there..
[02:02] <UbuntuWarrior> wich version of ubuntu do you use sanna?
[02:02] <sanna> 12.04
[02:02] <sanna> LAN works fine
[02:02] <UbuntuWarrior> @hangdeadman there is no way you must work with bluetooth
[02:03] <hangdeadman> UbuntuWarrior: I had it working before but can't remember the name of the software I used.
[02:04] <txomon> can anyone help me building apache 2.4 from Debian's experimental
[02:04] <txomon> ?
[02:04] <UbuntuWarrior> @sanna: have you tried wict?
[02:04] <sanna> hangdeadman google ps3 controller on ubuntu and there should be few links
[02:04] <sanna> i can look you 1 after i have solved my problem
[02:05] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis
[02:05] <sanna> UbuntuWarrior wict?
[02:05] <UbuntuWarrior> its a other manager for the w-lan card
[02:05] <UbuntuWarrior> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[02:05] <sanna> will try
[02:07] <Crell> Hi all.  I've just upgraded a system from 12.04 to 12.10.  Overall it seems to be working but it's booting the wrong kernel.  It's still booting a 3.2 kernel, and every entry in grub's menu.list file is labeled 12.04.  What goofed, and how do I correct it?
[02:07] <jrib> Crell: are you certain the upgrade completed successfully?
[02:08] <Crell> Well it survived a reboot.  I had some packages jam during the upgrade, but an aptitude clean && aptitude upgrade fixed most of them.
[02:08] <Crell> I've had that happen a few times.  This is a server system, btw, if that makes a difference.
[02:09] <jrib> Crell: how did you upgrade?
[02:09] <Crell> do-release-upgrade from the command line.
[02:09] <nono> :-)aptitude upgrade
[02:09] <nono> :-)aptitude full-upgrade
[02:09] <nono> :-)aptitude safe-upgrade
[02:09] <jrib> Crell: what's the output of "uname -a"?
[02:09] <Crell> I'd previously upgraded to 12.04 the same way.
[02:10] <Crell> jrib: Linux 3.2.0-35.
[02:10] <jrib> Crell: that's really strange output.
[02:10] <Crell> Well that's not the complete string.  I didn't feel like copying the entire string by hand since that computer's on the other side of the room. :-)
[02:11] <alfabit> hangdeadman, you couldn't have known, but because of you I solved my problem for the day. By changing batteries. Thanks!
[02:11] <Crell> 3.2.0-35-generic, more specifically.
[02:11] <hangdeadman> alfabit: haha, that's whats up.
[02:11] <jrib> Crell: apt-cache policy linux-image-server linux-image-generic
[02:13] <Crell> jrib: It lists 3.5 as candidate for both.  It's installed for the latter, but nothing is installed for the former(?).
[02:13] <ammini1> Morning folks! How could I remove/resize the Gnome3 notification bar. I'm using fully updated 12.10 x86_64 machine. I did try gnome-tweak-tool and forums, but couldn't get any helpful info.... thanks!
[02:13] <jrib> !pastebinit | Crell
[02:13] <Crell> My guess is that when it asked about updating menu.lst to the package maintainer's version I should have said Yes, not No. :-)
[02:13] <jrib> Crell: you can use that on the server
[02:13] <alfabit> Crell, maybe you can shortcut by just running 'sudo update-grub'. It will make a new list of all currently installed kernels
[02:13] <Crell> alfabit: Tried that already.
[02:14] <Crell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481120/
[02:15] <alfabit> Crell: Try sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub  ?
[02:15] <jrib> Crell: pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg .  Are you getting "interesting" output from update-grub?
[02:15] <Crell> Define "interesting"?
[02:15] <sanna> UbuntuWarrior, I have it now installed and no wireless network are found still
[02:16] <jrib> Crell: you can delete "interesting" from the question if you want
[02:16] <Crell> jrib: There's no grub.cfg, but there is grub.conf.  Good enough?
[02:16] <sanna> Or maybe I just dont know how to use this program..
[02:16] <marcavis> So, I don't know whether I should mention this here, or in nautilus, or gnome... does someone know about this strangely eager autocompletion in filenames in the open files dialogs?
[02:17] <antivapor> Or maybe a better question is, nomodeset can be made permanent but how do i get the regular splash fixed?
[02:17] <sanna> But still it says in big font; no wireless networks were found
[02:17] <Crell> jrib: grub.conf appears identical to menu.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481128/
[02:17] <sanna> Should i try reboot?
[02:18] <jrib> Crell: are you still using grub 1 or something?
[02:18] <Crell> jrib: update-grub says it finds many kernels, including 3.5, 3.2, 2.6.32, 2.6.24, and 2.6.17.
[02:18] <Crell> (This system has been around a while.)
[02:18] <Crell> jrib: I have no idea.  I think about grub once every few years, and the computer itself was first installed on edgy.
[02:19] <jrib> Crell: yes, you probably are
[02:19] <Crell> Hm, grub --version reports version 0.97
[02:19] <Crell> That sounds... old.
[02:19] <marcavis> Hmm... apparently it's gtk file chooser
[02:20] <jrib> !grub
[02:20] <jrib> !grub1
[02:20] <alfabit> Crell, yes, get GRUB2 on there: sudo apt-get install grub2
[02:20] <Crell> Ahso.
[02:20] <alfabit> That will pull in grub-common and grub-pc.
[02:20]  * Crell goes to break his grub.
[02:20] <alfabit> And make a nice list of all your avail kernels.
[02:21] <Crell> I presume let it remove the grub package?
[02:21] <alfabit> Crell, yes, that's fine.
[02:21] <jrib> Crell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading
[02:21] <Crell> Ahso.
[02:22] <antivapor> does encrypting your home folder prevent you from making a server?
[02:22] <jrib> antivapor: no?
[02:23] <antivapor> jrib: cool
[02:23] <sanna> Any suggestions how to setup my wlan to work?
[02:24] <sanna> I have installed the lastest drivers using LAN
[02:24] <sanna> and wicd
[02:24] <sanna> but still not working for me
[02:24] <Crell> OK, going to restart the server with grub2.  Wish me luck.
[02:24] <alfabit> Crell, Good luck :)
[02:26] <Crell> Win!
[02:26] <Crell> Grub menu now shows about 5 different kernels, with 3.5 being the default.
[02:26] <alfabit> yay!
[02:26] <jrib> Crell: cool
[02:27] <Crell> I presume that means I should go ahead and do the upgrade-from-grub-legacy command to tidy things up, and then I can remove the really old kernels, da?
[02:27] <UbuntuWarrior> sanna, do you has deinstalled the original drivers for w-lan?
[02:28] <sanna> No I havent :/ after i have done that should I reinstall wicd?
[02:30] <selite> How do I install KDE desktop environment in Ubuntu?
[02:30] <antivapor> any advice on getting splash screen with nomodeset?
[02:30] <jrib> !kde | selite
[02:30] <alcapraw1> anybody know  how to show linux kernal logo and system infor in terminal?
[02:30] <alcapraw1> its default on arch-linux just forgot the app  i used
[02:31] <alcapraw1> i thought it was kernel colors but clearly not :/
[02:31] <brontosaurusrex> alcapraw1: archey perhaps
[02:31] <UbuntuWarrior> sanna, I think so. I find a step by stem manual for your problem in a german thread I can translate it: Step1: deinstall network manager 2: deinstall network deamon 3:reboot 4: use wicd
[02:31] <alcapraw1> yes i think thats it :D
[02:32] <sanna> Okey thanks UbuntuWarrior, I will reboot now
[02:33] <UbuntuWarrior> no problem I hope it works :D
[02:33] <selite_> !KDE
[02:34] <Isozene> what is ubnetu
[02:34] <ammini> Hi there, I'm a Fedora user and now setting up Ubuntu 12.10 in my wife's laptop. In Fedora we've delta rpms which would have only the diff from the earlier version and apply that diff on updates to the existing packages. Is there something similar in deb as well, which I can install and save some network bandwidth on updates? Thanks..
[02:34] <Isozene> ubuntu
[02:34] <hangdeadman> I get this code when trying to burn a DVD: SCSI error on write(3008,16): [3 0C 00] Write error
[02:36] <alfabit> ammini, sorry, you are in for some hefty update downloads..
[02:36] <Quest> Is there a free and good screen + audio (from mic and sound card) recorder so that I can upload that video to YouTube?
[02:36] <ammini> alfabit: Nothing I'd do to speed up the update downloads? (Other than bumping up my ISP bandwidth? ;))
[02:37] <alfabit> ammini, choosing a nearby mirror is the best option.
[02:38] <ammini> alfabit: Oh! Ok. Thanks. I'll make sure I'm using a nearby one.
[02:38] <alfabit> antivapor: not certain, but with nomodeset you should be able to add vga=791 etc. options to the kernel command line.
[02:39] <ammini> In fact yesterday while I was installing 12.10, I'd the installer connected to uplink, thinking that it'd pull down the latest packages from web.
[02:39] <alfabit> that will give you framebuffer and (hopefully) splash screen.
[02:39] <alfabit> ammini, usually it does. I hate doing updates as part of an install, I prefer to install, then pull out all of the ubuntu packages I don't need.
[02:40] <alfabit> ammini, saves me some time because I'm not updating things I don't use (empathy, gwibber, ubuntu-one stuff etc.)
[02:40] <antivapor> thanks alfa! Ill try that.
[02:40] <KxTwo> Hey guys, any thoughts on why my laptop runs hotter when I run ubuntu than when I run windows?
[02:41] <ammini> Now I'm downloading some 250M+ of updates, which I think is updates to the stock packages version from the pristine installation - or does Ubuntu push that much updates to the mirror in one go?
[02:41] <sanna> im back and still; WLAN not working :/
[02:41] <KxTwo> Kind of annoying as I was hoping it would run cooler
[02:41] <alfabit> ammini, that's about right. You are getting all of the updates since 12.10 was released, now, after a new install.
[02:42] <alfabit> ammini, in the future it will be better.
[02:42] <MoL0ToV> hi from italy! here is 3:40 and i'm unable to sleep :)
[02:42] <alfabit> KxTwo, yes, drivers aren't optimized :(
[02:42] <UbuntuWarrior> sanna, can you see w-lan networks?
[02:42] <sanna> Hi from Finland! 4:42
[02:43] <sanna> No I cant :/
[02:43] <alfabit> KxTwo, Especially if you have a dual video card, where one is supposed to take over for the other to save power..can't be disabled on a linux kernel. Really sucks.
[02:43] <MoL0ToV> finland! i want to travel to finland!!
[02:43]  * ammini is in future. 08:15 here.
[02:43] <Muphrid> Hi from brazil, 00 43, but this is offtopic
[02:43] <KxTwo> Anything I can do about it, I want my lt to run as cool as possible, its hovering around 60c right now
[02:43] <KxTwo> its 10+ what I get on windows
[02:44] <alfabit> KxTwo, any idea if you have the Optimus video card solution ? (I think it's a pairing of an Intel integrated and an nvidia discrete)
[02:44] <MoL0ToV> sanna: what wifi interface you have?
[02:44] <KxTwo> my cpu is running hot not my video card
[02:45] <sanna> wicd? What do you mean? :/ Sorry for being scrub
[02:45] <ammini> Try some CPU Frequency governor tweaks.
[02:45] <UbuntuWarrior> sanna, I think I can't help anymore because I'm out of ideas. I wish you a good night and good luck at your problem :D
[02:45] <selite> I use WUBI to install Kubuntu and I get an error it says that "Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO".
[02:45] <selite> How do I fix this ,plaese?
[02:45] <KxTwo> maybe I shouldnt worry as its under the jmax but I get worried about overheating
[02:46] <sanna> Aww.. Good luck to you solving future problems :)
[02:46] <mrhyde> will adobe ever make it for linux?
[02:46] <selite> I use WUBI to install Kubuntu and I get an error it says that "Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO"?
[02:47] <MoL0ToV> selite, why to use wubi? you cannot boot from cd, resize existing partitions and install ubuntu?
[02:47] <selite> MoL0ToV: No, nah the CD's don't work on my machine.
[02:47] <alfabit> KxTwo, the cpu_idle and friends driver in Linux should be just fine. The graphics stuff is the only issue I have heard of. What version of Ubuntu are you running on your laptop?
[02:48] <KxTwo> alfabit, I just installed 12.10
[02:48] <MoL0ToV> selite, so you are installing from usb? there are a lot of tools to burn correctly the iso on a usb key
[02:48] <MoL0ToV> also from windows
[02:48] <KxTwo> alfabit, i was running mint before but hadn't used it for a couple of months and decided to switch back to ubuntu
[02:48] <selite> MoL0ToV: I am installing from WUBI.
[02:48] <selite> MoL0ToV: From inside Windows 7.
[02:48] <nono> unetbootin
[02:48] <Muphrid> sanna: wicd is a different network manager
[02:48] <kelvinella> hello
[02:48] <Muphrid> sanna: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[02:49] <kelvinella> was the irc server down yesterday?
[02:49] <KxTwo> but I do know when im sitting idle on my windows machine I will drop into even the 40's but the lowest ive hit here is 57
[02:49] <alfabit> KxTwo..is it possible 12.10 is misreporting your CPU temp ?
[02:49] <KxTwo> im using psensors?
[02:50] <alfabit> KxTwo, I only mention it because mcsmash was saying something about 12.10 reporting high CPU temps. Maybe there's a bug.
[02:50] <KxTwo> hmm
[02:50] <alfabit> KxTwo, what make of laptop ?
[02:50] <KxTwo> hp dv7
[02:50] <KxTwo> hence my concern!
[02:50] <alfabit> sure.
[02:50] <MoL0ToV> selite, burn a iso ubuntu image into a usb key and boot from it, is best way in your case
[02:51] <MoL0ToV> you can also resize windows partition if needed
[02:51] <MoL0ToV> using gparted
[02:51] <KxTwo> it was overheating before and burnt out my battery, so now I monitor my temp
[02:52] <alfabit> KxTwo: If you have a BIOS interface to the temperatures as well..reboot into that and see if it's still reporting in the 60s
[02:52] <KxTwo> im actually lucky it even works it used to get so hot it would shut off
[02:52] <alfabit> KxTwo: that could give you a measure of 'is psensors accurate'
[02:52] <alfabit> KxTwo, next, I would check launchpad and see if any open issues deal with misreporting temp sensors on 12.10
[02:53] <KxTwo> launchpad?
[02:53] <alfabit> KxTwo, sorry, Ubuntu bug tracker: launchpad.net
[02:54] <KxTwo> what about DE, what if I change that?  I really dont care what DE I use
[02:54] <kelvinella> hi is there different between the ubuntu12.04.1 iso and ubuntu12.04 iso?
[02:55] <laila_> Hi. I'm new and helpless. Have a problem described at youtube: http://youtu.be/cSZ9X9y9_hc
[02:55] <jhansonxi> KxTwo:  Have you seen http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware-e-g-Windows-8/HOW-TO-FIX-DV7-FAN-OVERHEATING-PROBLEM/td-p/1360861
[02:56] <KxTwo> thats how i fixed it
[02:56] <KxTwo> I actually was a month past warranty
[02:56] <KxTwo> so i took it apart
[02:56] <KxTwo> cleaned out the fan
[02:56] <FloodBot1> KxTwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <KxTwo> I have cats so you can imagine
[02:56] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: With Ubuntu running, is it possible to view the fan to see if it ever turns on?
[02:56] <KxTwo> updated the bios and turned the fan to always on
[02:57] <KxTwo> I can feel the fan, if it was not on Id shoot up into the 80s and 90's
[02:57] <KxTwo> supposedly the tmax for my cpu is 115
[02:58] <Quest> Is there a free and good screen + audio (from mic and sound card) recorder so that I can upload that video to YouTube?
[02:58] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Try using a CPU frequency control.  Most desktop environments have one as an applet.
[02:59] <alfabit> kelvinella: 12.04.1 is 12.04+updates. You don't need to re-download if you already have the 12.04 iso, the updates can just be downloaded after installation.
[02:59] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: You can at least monitor the CPU clock speed that way.
[02:59] <KxTwo> well psensor has cpu usage
[02:59] <OerHeks> !info recordmydesktop
[02:59] <KxTwo> my max has been 50 percent but hovered around 20
[02:59] <kelvinella> alfabit, but strangely when i use 12.04 iso liveCD my laptop screen is rotated upside down, in 12.04.1 liveCD it is fixed
[03:00] <nono> KxTwo lm-sensors?
[03:00] <KxTwo> psensors
[03:00] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: It maybe the GPU that's causing the excessive heat.  The CPU and GPU often share air streams in laptops.
[03:01] <laila_> I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units. Asking for help...
[03:01] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, I wondered that too but dont really know how to confirm it
[03:01] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Most sensor apps obtain their info from lm-sensors or ACPI.
[03:02] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Does psensors show the CPU running at the max speed always or does it change based on load?
[03:02] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, yah eI think psensors does as well
[03:03] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Does the CPU speed ever change?
[03:03] <KxTwo> it changes, it displays ap ercentage currently im at 9
[03:03] <KxTwo> min was 4 max was 52
[03:03] <KxTwo> it changes
[03:04]  * OerHeks allways wonders why people think windows show correct temp
[03:04] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Based on that I don't think it is the CPU or fan that is the problem.  Possibilities are GPU or faulty sensor readings (more likely GPU).
[03:04] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: What GPU and driver are you using?
[03:05] <KxTwo> hmm you might be right
[03:05] <KxTwo> I could have sworn that psensors used to display gpu temp but its not on this install which means wrong driver
[03:05] <KxTwo> im using the default driver, I literally just installed
[03:05] <KxTwo> and I have an ati mobility radeon hd 4650 (m96)
[03:05] <laila_> ASKING experts 4 HELP: I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units.
[03:06] <KxTwo> psensors does use lm-sensors btw
[03:06] <KxTwo> for somer eason I have two temp 1's im assuming thats the cores.
[03:07] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: That would use either vesa (default generic driver for anything), radeon (open-source driver with many limitations), or fglrx (AMD closed-source driver).  If you have the AMD Catalyst Control Center app then you are using fglrx.
[03:07] <KxTwo> this ubuntu has some changes from the last one.  The software updater is different and I dont see the third party driver installer.
[03:07] <KxTwo> ahh that is what that catalyst was for on my last install
[03:08] <KxTwo> I think I went through all this when I installed mint but forgot what I did
[03:08] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: I think Jockey (the "Additional Drivers" app) was removed and the Ubuntu Software Center installs the drivers now.  I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) so I still have Jockey.
[03:08] <KxTwo> I at first tried to use the third party driver installer but had problems with it, I can't even find it on this install.
[03:08] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, I think 12.04 was my last install before mint I am trying 12.10 now
[03:09] <TheBigElectron> Hi there all was wanting help install the Ralink driver for a wireless NIC with the RT3070 chip
[03:10] <TheBigElectron> I Have down loaded the source, made it and made installed it with out errors, restarted but still nothing
[03:10] <KxTwo> the only thing I can find it in the software center is ATI binary X.org driver
[03:10] <laila_> ASKING experts 4 HELP: I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units.
[03:10] <knickoo> hi
[03:10] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: I haven't used 12.10 so I'm not sure what is involved in installing fglrx (or related bugs).  Try getting that fixed first and see if it helps with the heat problem.
[03:10] <TheBigElectron> knickoo, hi
[03:11] <knickoo> hi TheBigElectron
[03:11] <KxTwo> yah I have no idea how to install this driver
[03:11] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: That might be it.
[03:11] <roasted> Is there a way to differentiate creation date vs last modified? I want to script the automatic removal of specific directories based on age of when they were created, but all I see in the parameters is last modified, which fumbles this idea badly.
[03:11] <TheBigElectron> laila_, Sounds like something wrong with the network arrangement no?
[03:11] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: This seems related: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-12-10-quantal-fglrx-legacy-12-6-unsupported-wh
[03:12] <KxTwo> version is fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu3
[03:12] <knickoo> does anyone knows a program that would reverse ip addresses from a list of domain names and then check ip's location?
[03:12] <nono> laila: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1625317
[03:12] <KxTwo> so maybe it is it and I should try that
[03:12] <TheBigElectron> Yar I have the same problem here KxTwo with a Ralink driver
[03:12] <laila_> TheBigElectron: The parts, connections and problem is described in detail here: http://youtu.be/cSZ9X9y9_hc
[03:13] <thufir_> I had some problems with video card drivers, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264255, but managed to start xfce.  However, while gnome-terminal is installed, it doesn't give a prompt but just a blank terminal window.  (no, it's not black on black)
[03:13] <blackbird_> hiiiiiii
[03:13] <TheBigElectron> Okay, watching now laila_
[03:13] <KxTwo> crap on that link no one has a real answer
[03:13] <KxTwo> maybe I need to go back to 12.04 damn it
[03:13] <laila_> TheBigElectron: Read the text too ... is usefull to get my question ...
[03:13] <thufir_> KxTwo: lol. 12.10 is buggy
[03:14] <blackbird_> i have problem in terminal most of time its give me error of unmet dependies
[03:14] <laila_> thufir: yes
[03:14] <OerHeks> KxTwo same answer as jhansonxi > Latest proprietary AMD Catalyst driver version 12.9 cannot be used with Ubuntu 12.10 If you have a AMD Radeon HD 2xxx-4xxx series card.Drivers for these cards are now available in a separate branch called legacy series. see >> http://askubuntu.com/a/129200
[03:14] <blackbird_> can any one have solution
[03:14] <blackbird_> ?
[03:14] <Radmintegrity> Greetings All, I need help from someone who understands what is involved in recovering data lost on a linux raw encoded partition, or at least I think Linux raw because that is how it is displayed when I use ext2 in Windows to view the drive partitions.  This drive was used in a Zmodo surveillence system DVR, which is why the data is encoded.  I need to find a way to get the lost footage...
[03:14] <Radmintegrity> ...restored, at least some of it in order to prevent an innocent man from going to prison and I only have until Jan 4 to do it.  Thank you.
[03:15] <KxTwo> Ok I think im going to reset my live usb to 12.04 and start over I havent done much so no biggy
[03:15] <OerHeks> blackbird_, what ubuntu version are you using and what are you trying to install ?
[03:15] <KxTwo> ill be back after that asking the experts
[03:15] <KxTwo> im not seeing anything great about 12.10 over 12.04 anyway
[03:15] <blackbird_> 12.10
[03:15] <blackbird_> like some gnome wallpapers
[03:15] <blackbird_> ...
[03:15] <jhansonxi> Radmintegrity: If it's that important then have a professional recovery firm work on it.  You could make it worse.
[03:15] <bryguy_> trying to figure out how to revert from wine 1.5.20 in 12.10 back to 1.5.19. The new wine release is completely broken. I tried dpkg -i --force-downgrade on the 1.5.19 packages in my apt cache but that seems to just break the package system until I do an apt-get -f install to fix everything.
[03:16] <KxTwo> before I do that.  Any opinions on lubuntu?  Would that maybe be better for what I want to do?
[03:16] <bryguy_> can someone help me understand how to revert back to a previous version of wine1.5?
[03:16] <KxTwo> I care more about performance but stayign cool.  I dont need amazing graphics.  I have a dv7 with 4 gigs of ram.
[03:16] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Lubuntu is based on Ubuntu so it will have the same driver limitations (just a different desktop).
[03:17] <OerHeks> !info wine
[03:17] <roasted> :)
[03:17] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, I just meant overall
[03:17] <Ben64> bryguy_: use synaptic and force version, what's wrong with .20?
[03:17] <Radmintegrity> Thank you Jhansonxi, but our budget does not allow for a professional service to do this for us.  We are middle class Americans, therefore we cannot afford justice...we have to fight for it.
[03:17] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, if its just a different desktkop I can change that later so its probably best to just install 12.04?
[03:17] <OerHeks> bryguy_, current version is lower, did you install any PPA ?
[03:17] <roasted> Question - can directories be identified by a creation date? Or do they only work with date modified?
[03:17] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, ubuntu 12.04*
[03:17] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Phoronix has performed benchmarks on various DEs.  Check their site.
[03:18] <Guest92581> hallo. ich hab nen kleines Problem. Ich bin absolute laie im Thema pc. Ich habe mir linux ubuntu 12.10 installiert, aber ca 6 mal jetzt drauf. wie kann ich das alles wieder löschen oder deinstallieren bzw zu einem Betriebsprogramm (oder  wie man das genau nennt) machen?? Schonmal dank im vorraus
[03:18] <roasted> o.O
[03:18] <jhansonxi> KxTwo:  More or less, yes.
[03:18] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, ok what im asking is I can change that easily though?  So I can just install ubuntu and if I want to change the DE later, if I remember correctly, that is something I can do without any loss of performance as the base OS is the same?
[03:18] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, also I have 4 gigs of ram, is there any benefits of installing 64 bit still?
[03:19] <thufir_>  I had some problems with video card drivers, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264255, but managed to start xfce.  However, while gnome-terminal is installed, it doesn't give a prompt but just a blank terminal window.  (no, it's not black on black)
[03:19] <sdfgh> anyone know how to unpack xml.bz2 ?
[03:19] <bryguy_> no ppa, I think you're wrong oerheks. Lots of people are complaining about this on the wow and eve online forums. Will try synaptic
[03:19] <jhansonxi> Radmintegrity: I haven't done that level of recovery but in general drive forensics starts with a complete copy of the original and never works on the original.
[03:19] <Quest> Is there a free and good screen + audio (from mic and sound card) recorder so that I can upload that video to YouTube?
[03:20] <thufir_> lol, I'm stoopid.  it was black on black.
[03:20] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, id like my next install to be one that lasts at least a little while this time lol.
[03:20] <c_smith> Guest92581, Bitte verwenden Sie in diesem Channel Deutsch, sonst wird niemand verstehen Sie
[03:20] <bitcycle> Hey all.  I've got an external USB drive plugged into my media PC (ubuntu latest), and I've got some media files on my laptop (xubuntu) that I'd like to move over to the USB drive without having to move the drive to my laptop temporarily.  What's the best way to accomplish that?  I've used sshfs, but I have not ever setup an NFS before.  :0/
[03:20] <c_smith> hoping Google Translate didn't botch that up.....
[03:20] <laila_> Quest: Try RecordMyDesktop ... is in the rep of ubuntu ...
[03:20] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: 64-bit would help a bit with 4GB access but actual performance gain depends on the application.
[03:21] <bryguy_> how do I find a previous version in synaptic?
[03:21] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, so if you had to tell me yes or no on 64 bit what woudl you say?
[03:21] <KxTwo> sounds liek you are implying 64
[03:21] <alfabit> kelvinella: I would chalk that up to an updated driver or bugfix in the 12.04.1 roll that wasn't present in the original 12.04.
 why are you using windows to view the drive partitions, try using Ubuntu instead.
[03:22] <OerHeks> roasted, no, ls -al shows a date, but that can be altered by writing a folder to that folder AFAIK
[03:22] <kelvinella> alfabit, yeah next time i would wait until .1 version is out
[03:22] <laila_> Guest92581: Problem ist lösbar ... daten auf esterne festpaltte sichern -  interne festplatte neu formatieren. Fals windows drauf, diese erst neu installeiren.
[03:22] <kelvinella> alfabit, but strangely xubuntu12.04 iso has no problem. so weird
[03:22] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: I normally use 64-bit unless the CPU doesn't support it.  Most of the past 32-bit compatibility problems have been solved with the multiarch support: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec
[03:22] <OerHeks> bryguy_, i disagree, synaptic shows 1.4
[03:23] <jimmy_extreme> Hey, anyone out there available to advise on installing RHEL from Ubuntu without an optical drive?
[03:23] <Apteryx> Hello friends! I have a question regarding a LiveUSB setup... Should it be able to detect an Android based device? As of now it does not seem to, so I cannot access its internal memory as mass storage :(
[03:23] <roasted> Question - why is "test" being deleted in this command? find /home/jason/Desktop/test/ -mmin +1 -exec rm -r {} \;
[03:23] <Radmintegrity> I just installed ubuntu 20 minutes ago, new to this os:/
[03:23] <kelvinella> Radmintegrity, congraz
[03:24] <jhansonxi> jimmy_extreme: It's possible to boot an ISO image from a hard drive with Grub2 but I can't remember the details.
 You could probably view those partitions on a live cd if you had too.
[03:24] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, ok, unless you have any other expert advice to give me i am going to go download ubuntu 12.04 64 bit default and worry about DE later after checking out what you recommended.
[03:24] <jhansonxi> KxTwo: Have fun :D
[03:25] <bryguy_> hm,  maybe I did install a ppa at some point, argh. I've been using rpm based distros for a long time this is frustratingly different
[03:25] <Radmintegrity> I was able to pull gigs of swf files from the partitioon using easeus linux recovery, but get an error when I open them, i think because they are encoded, does this make sense or am I clutching at straws?
[03:25] <jhansonxi> roasted: Easy test - replace rm -r with ls
[03:25] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: Are you trying to install RHEL to a separate partition on your Ubuntu machine, or installing it inside of a virtual machine, or ... ?
[03:26] <roasted> jhansonxi: not sure I understand what ls would tell me?
[03:26] <KxTwo> jhansonxi, thanks for the patience If you are still here when I come back Ill pick your brain some more
[03:26] <tekkbuzz> Radmintegrity, do you have a swf viewer of some sort installed?
[03:26] <blackbird_> exit
[03:26] <laila_> ASKING experts 4 HELP: I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units.
[03:26] <Radmintegrity> Yes I do
[03:26] <tekkbuzz> like vnc.
[03:26] <Radmintegrity> vlc?
[03:26] <kelvinella> i think you can drag swf to firefox and it will open maybe?
[03:26] <tekkbuzz> opps , yes.
[03:27] <jhansonxi> Radmintegrity: Identifying files with a corrupt directory is difficult since file name extensions are missing.  The recovery tool may have simply guessed wrong about the types of files it found.
[03:27] <Radmintegrity> Curses
[03:28] <alfabit> Radmintegrity, yes. It sounds surprising that a video survillance would encode to swf..
[03:28] <Ben64> jhansonxi, Radmintegrity: linux stuff usually doesn't care about file extensions, it uses magic bits
[03:28] <jhansonxi> Radmintegrity: You also need to be sure how the drive was originally configured, RAID/LVM/dm-crypt, in addition to what filesystem it used.
[03:28] <jimmy_extreme> alfabit:
[03:28] <tekkbuzz> Radmintegrity, try using file <filename>
[03:28] <alfabit> Radmintegrity, try using the 'file' utility on one of the recovered files, see what it reports. And vlc shouldn't care - like Ben64 says.
[03:29] <jimmy_extreme> alfabit:
[03:29] <jimmy_extreme> yes I am trying to install RHEL on another partition
[03:29] <jhansonxi> Ben64: No guarantee that the magic bits are intact with a corrupt filesystem.
[03:29] <Ben64> if the headers are gone, then it's pretty hard to make a file work again
[03:29] <tekkbuzz> Linux doesn't care about filename extensions, it's only for user convenience.
[03:30] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme, it is very easy to install rhel (and centos) over PXE, if you have another linux machine you can configure for that.
[03:30] <Radmintegrity> I was cautious to keep the drive in read only mode...so if I go about this from the ubuntu os I may be able to accomplish something, right?  Ok, I will be right back as I am required to restart my Windows 8 PC (I decided to chat with you good people before even  booting into Ubuntu)  Back in a few moments, and thank you for your help thus far.
[03:31] <tekkbuzz> good luck
[03:31] <laila_> ASKING experts 4 HELP: I have a problem with network speed between a NAS and laptop. The speed is brutal slow - unless I download two files concurrent between the same two units.
[03:31] <Ben64> Radmintegrity: perhaps, file recovery isn't always easy or possible
[03:31] <jimmy_extreme> alfabit:
[03:31] <jimmy_extreme> What is PXE? I'm kind of new to Linux. I only have one Linux box, currently only running Ubuntu desktop 12.4 LTS
[03:32] <alfabit> jhansonxi, Ben64 - did Radmitegrity say the disk was corrupted? It sounds to me like he just isn't familar with linux but trying to get files off an ext-style partition from windows.
[03:32] <Ben64> alfabit: I don't think he ever specified
[03:32] <jhansonxi> alfabit: Radmintegrity did say "lost" data
[03:32] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: don't worry about PXE then. It is a network install method but, you don't have a second machine to set up with.
[03:33] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: I've never done a USB install of CentOS but I'm sure it is possible, and that would be the next easiest way.
[03:33] <Ben64> unetbootin should work for that
[03:34] <jimmy_extreme> alfabit:
[03:34] <jimmy_extreme> ah, thanks for the explanation.
[03:34] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: looks like rhel6/centos6 are now using the fedora method.
[03:34] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/InstallFromUSBkey
[03:34] <jhansonxi> jimmy_extreme: Ubuntu ISO boot from grub info but it required some special Grub configuration: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:35] <nono> alfabit: unetbootin...
[03:36] <jimmy_extreme> Is CentOS a different linux distro?
[03:36] <wa5qjh> yes
[03:36] <alfabit> nono, jimmy_extreme: yes, unetbootin could be used, I just have no 1st hand experience.
[03:36] <Apteryx> Anyone sees something I should install in order to gain Android device support on a LiveUSB^
[03:36] <Apteryx> ?
[03:36] <wa5qjh> supposedly very much similar to RH.
[03:36] <alfabit> jimmy_extreme, centos is rhel minus the branding.
[03:36] <Apteryx> Im just trying to access my Nexus S mass storage memory
[03:37] <Apteryx> from a Ubuntu 12.10 LiveUSB and its not seeing it when I plug the phone
[03:37] <nono> alfabit
[03:37] <nono> install
[03:37] <nono> it
[03:37] <nono> and choose your os
[03:37] <nono> (with the usb in)
[03:38] <elfer> ipv6?
[03:38] <wa5qjh> can somebody point me to where I can get the source for the network manager?
[03:38] <jimmy_extreme> nono:
[03:38] <jimmy_extreme> do you have first hand experience with unetbootin?
[03:38] <lobhater1> what runs when your computer comes out of suspend? 12.04
[03:38] <elfer> network mgr?
[03:38] <wa5qjh> manager.
[03:39] <elfer> i think you might be able to find it at projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager
[03:39] <elfer> might
[03:39] <wa5qjh> up  there in upper right5 part of the taskbar next to  the speaker icon.
[03:39] <elfer> lol
[03:40] <nono> jimmy_extreme:
[03:40] <elfer> why would you need the source/
[03:40] <elfer> ?
[03:40] <nono> it's all right
[03:40] <lobhater1> can someone please help me use the find command.  if i want to find a file name helloworld. i try  # find / helloword
[03:40] <lobhater1> but it doesnt work, what am i doing wrong>
[03:40] <wa5qjh> I need to find out what commands are sent to a USB modem,GSM,Cellular Broadband.
[03:40] <alfabit> wa5qjh: any source package can be installed with apt-src source package_name. Just make sure you have the "src" lines uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:41] <wa5qjh> find / -name helloworld
[03:41] <psusi> lobhater1, find / -name hellowword
[03:41] <elfer> o
[03:41] <elfer> i think its written in c
[03:41] <alfabit> wa5qjh: sorry, apt-get source ...
[03:41] <lobhater1> thank you, i read the man page but just had a brain block for some reason
[03:41] <wa5qjh> alfabit, thanks.
[03:43] <jimmy_extreme> question, what chat client is everyone using here? I'm on Empathy, but it seems pretty basic
[03:43] <jhansonxi> jimmy_extreme: Client systems boot over PXE to a server.  The unetbootin tool sends them an ISO image over the network for them to load into RAM and boot from.
[03:43] <skr_> whenever i open any gnome application like gedit, gcal, i get an error msg like "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications"
[03:43] <wa5qjh> would you know the exact name of the network manager.... :(
[03:43] <elfer> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/examples
[03:44] <elfer> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/tree/
[03:44] <elfer> :0
[03:44] <jhansonxi> wa5qjh: /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
[03:44] <lobhater1> i have tried to search but with no luck.  where can i find an explanation of what the system calls when it comes out of suspend? please
[03:45] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: What are you referring to?  The login prompt?
[03:45] <hangdeadman> Can anybody help me to get a ps3 controller to function as a mouse via usb in ubuntu 12.04?
[03:45] <wa5qjh> Unable to find a source package for NetworkManager
[03:45] <jimmy_extreme> jhansonxi:
[03:45] <jimmy_extreme> thanks for the explanation of PXE and unetbootin.
[03:45] <wa5qjh> I mean the package name..
[03:46] <skr_> plz help ...
[03:48] <elfer> thanks for the ubottu
[03:48] <hangdeadman> Can anybody help me to get a ps3 controller to function as a mouse via usb in ubuntu 12.04?
[03:48] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, i gave you this url long time ago, see >>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sixaxis
[03:48] <bryong> Can anyone help me instsall my new WF-2117 wireless card please?
[03:48] <wa5qjh> ahh network-manager..  didnt have the hyphen  in it before :)
[03:48] <skr_> whenever i open any gnome application like gedit, gcal, i get an error msg like "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications"
[03:49] <skr_> any ideas ???
[03:49] <bryong> Linux won't recognize my wireless card.
[03:49] <jhansonxi> hangdeadman: It should do so by default (bug $41847) but you can use qjoypad to configure it manually
[03:49] <wa5qjh> also getting modemmanager .apt-get didnt like all the version info includedeither.
[03:50] <bryong> How do I find the drivers to my WF-2117 wireless card for linux?  Please help I am new to linux.
[03:50] <jhansonxi> bryong: We saw your request the first time.  Be patient.
[03:50] <bryong> Thank you.
[03:52] <skr_> what does this even mean  error msg like "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.
[03:52] <tornado> skr_: you probably ought to install the dconf-gsettings-backend (i'm on debian testing, the package may be named differently on ubuntu)
[03:52] <tornado> the dconf-gsettings-backend package, i meant
[03:54] <skr_> i had already installed dconf-gsettings-backend...
[03:54] <hangdeadman> jhansonxi: how do I configure qjoypad/
[03:54] <hangdeadman> jhansonxi: ?
[03:54] <skr_> but still this error is popping up..
[03:54] <Apteryx> This is what reads in dmesg when plugging my Nexus S phone: device not accepting address 20, error -71
[03:54] <jhansonxi> bryong: From a picture at Newegg.com it looks like it uses a Ralink RT5362 chip.  There's a howto regarding driver installation but unfortunately it's not easy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12161447
[03:55] <bryong>  jhansonxi: thanks ill look into it
[03:55] <ohshitgorillas> Okay, so I just installed Ubuntu Desktop and I have to say, it's been one of the most furiously frustrating OS experiences ever, and I've used Arch Linux before.
[03:55] <ohshitgorillas> Why on earth does Ubuntu Software Center keep refreshing every five seconds? it makes it completely unusable. how do I stop this?
[03:55] <tornado> skr_: perhaps yo need other dconf-related packages too: dconf-service libdconf0 dconf-tools
[03:55] <tornado> *you
[03:56] <lobhater1> how do you use find to search the contents of a file for a string?
[03:56] <Apteryx> /proc/interrupts
[03:56] <jhansonxi> hangdeadman: Map an axis to "mouse" and set "Gradient" then play with the settings until it works.
[03:56] <skr_> tornado: i had installed everything related to dconf and gsetting including libdconf..
[03:56] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: grep
[03:57] <skr_> but no luck...
[03:57] <tornado> :-(
[03:57] <lobhater1> grep / myString
[03:57] <lobhater1> ?
[03:57] <laila_> ALL: HAVE A NICE NEW YEAR - when you are at the time to have it!!!!
[03:57] <laila_> bye bye
[03:57] <ohshitgorillas> I need to uninstall a ton of programs for which I don't know the repo name so I can't use the command line. why does the software center keep refreshing, and why does it only uninstall every five programs I tell it to remove??!
[03:57] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: Open a terminal and type "man grep"
[03:57] <ohshitgorillas> *every fifth
[03:58] <lobhater1> i would like to search starting at root, every file for a specific string. please help more than man.  which i have done but it is hard for me to understand
[03:58] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: "grep -Rlin myString *" will search every directory below the current for myString (case-insensitive) and return file names and line numbers it occurs on.
[03:59] <nono> lobhater1 : gksu
[03:59] <skr_> when i tried strace with an application "open("/usr/share/gnome/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)"
[03:59] <lobhater1> awesome thank you so much.  i am in a rush otherwise i would have read,. thabks
[03:59] <Ali3nat0r> Hi, I just installed 1210 as a dual boot on my Windoze 7 box, and I'm having issues with the graphics; YouTube in HD 720 or 1080 lags like HELL from Ubuntu however it runs fine on Win. I installed the AMD Catalyst drivers on Ubuntu hoping it would help but it didn't, any advice please? :)
[03:59] <Ali3nat0r> I also imagine it's not just YouTube but any video, however I don't have any 720 files to check it with
[03:59] <jhansonxi> lobhater1: Don't start at / if logged in as root else it will grep through /dev and every byte of every hard drive.
[04:01] <wa5qjh> one more.. how do I get mysql to start on boot-up ?
[04:01] <wa5qjh> in U11.04 ?
[04:01] <ohshitgorillas> Ali3nat0r: have you tried the open source driver? I don't know what all you'll be doing with this but if you're not playing any 3d games you can try the open source ATI driver
[04:02] <ohshitgorillas> Ali3nat0r: I've had nothing but frustrations and headaches dealing with catalyst
[04:02] <jhansonxi> wa5qjh: Most start-up daemons are in /etc/init or /etc/init.d depending on if they are Upstart jobs or init scripts.
[04:02] <skr_> tornado: any idea after seeing the strace...
[04:02] <Ali3nat0r> What is the one that auto installs and configures with Ubuntu? I had a 1080p resolution on Desktop right off the bat with that, and 480p YouTube worked but again 720/1080 lagged to hell
[04:03] <jhansonxi> wa5qjh: Some daemons won't start unless they are configured first, usually somewhere in /etc.  MySQL may want a password set first.
[04:03] <ohshitgorillas> Ali3nat0r: you have the catalyst control center installed, too, right? have you tried adjusting some of the settings?
[04:04] <Ali3nat0r> The only reason I didn't nuke the Win7 partition is to still play games but I don't fancy switching back there just to watch videos
[04:04] <KI4RO> wa5qjh, cq cq cq
[04:04] <Ali3nat0r> Yeah, I have done and it all seems to relate to gaming more than anything
[04:05] <ohshitgorillas> Could someone explain to me why Ubuntu Software Center refreshes every five seconds and is unresponsive the other half of the time?
[04:05] <ohshitgorillas> Ali3nat0r: sounds like you need someone with actual troubleshooting experience (ie not me), sorry :P
[04:06] <jhansonxi> Ali3nat0r: Search with Google for "fglrx hd flash slow" and you'll find some bug reports about the problem
[04:06] <ohshitgorillas> when I used an ATI driver I had major issues with video playback for a while and using catalyst was the only way to get HDMI audio. from my experience the driver is something like half trainwreck half abortion
[04:07] <Ali3nat0r> Hmm will do, and I had HDMI audio before installing ATI
[04:07] <ohshitgorillas> lucky you =P
[04:07] <Ali3nat0r> I'm guessing that got included in the 1210 release
[04:08] <Ali3nat0r> Ubuntu has generally worked right out of the box with most hardware I've thrown at it, but the stuff that hasn't worked has been a BITCH to sort out
[04:08] <Ali3nat0r> Unlike Windows where the opposite holds
[04:08] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, what do you mean by stuff?
[04:09] <Ali3nat0r> This graphics problem, and an old laptop's wireless card
[04:09] <jagginess> I have to admit the docs aren't well revealing for the NetworkManager "stuff" mwahah
[04:10] <jagginess> gfx and net, it's always an issue with everyone..
[04:10] <roasted> Question -I'm running find to delete empty directories by using -type d -empty. When I run it, it says no such file or directory continuously, however the command still works. I'm just curious, why is the command barking at me like that?
[04:10] <Ali3nat0r> The way I sorted that was with a Windows driver kludge I found on a forum somewhere
[04:10] <jagginess> I hope "wayland" Xserver can do better automagic
[04:12] <pythor> My Ubuntu 12.10 won't boot by itself.  Alfabit suggested SuperGrubDisk when I was here earlier.  That got me in, but I still can't boot it with out the live USB.    Tried it before when I was booting from a 12.04 live Cd, and again after SuperGrubDisk got me into my original install.  No joy.
[04:15] <Jordan_U> pythor: While booted into your installed system please pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc" and "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/".
[04:16] <skr_> when ever i open any gnome app like gedit, gcal etc .. i get an error msg "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications." due to which i am not able to save the settings for these application.PLZ HELP....
[04:18] <pythor> Jordan_U, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481286/
[04:18] <thoonai> hey, my generic mp3 player is mount read only
[04:18] <thoonai> how Do I can mount it as writable device?
[04:19] <ohshitgorillas> okay, I'm going to go ahead and say it, Ubuntu Software Center is the worst piece of linux software I've ever used. How do I get it to a) not refresh at random, b) actually remove things when I click the remove button, and c) not lag?
[04:19] <thoonai> ohshitgorillas: I use aptitude or apt-get
[04:19] <thoonai> ohshitgorillas: if you ignore the software center, youll never regret it
[04:19] <ohshitgorillas> thoonai: yeah, I'm a big fan of apt-get... but I don't know the repo name for a lot of the software that comes installed on ubuntu to begin with
[04:19] <antispin> hey, i'm trying to make a bootable ubuntu USB stick using mac osX 10.6, the sudo dd command seemed to complete successfully, but i still can't boot from the usb stick (when i restart my computer macintosh hd is the only option), does anyone have any ideas on what i can do to fix this?
[04:20] <ohshitgorillas> thoonai: I just have to de-bloat using the software center and I never have to look at it again
[04:20] <skr_> please help ...
[04:20] <thoonai> skr_: tell your problem
[04:21] <weby> he did
[04:21] <thoonai> my problem is that the automounter mount the mp3 player as riteprotected
[04:21] <thoonai> weby: I joined later so I dont know
[04:21] <weby> Oh I see now, my bad.
[04:21] <thoonai> weby: ^^ we grant you pardon ;)
[04:21] <weby> quoting: "when ever i open any gnome app like gedit, gcal etc .. i get an error msg "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications." due to which i am not able to save the settings for these application.PLZ HELP...."
[04:22] <skr_> thoonai:when ever i open any gnome app like gedit, gcal etc .. i get an error msg "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications." due to which i am not able to save the settings for these application.
[04:22] <thoonai> weby: thanks, skr_ it wont get better if I read it twice ;)
[04:22] <peter7pann>  #anonamouse.net
[04:23] <roasted> Question - I'm having trouble utilizing the find command. My goal is to delete empty directories, but only within the directory I specify. For example, I'm working with /media/storage/surveillance. There are directories a few layers deep within surveillance. I want to delete all empty directories from surveillance... but no further beyond surveillance. How can I prevent that?
[04:23] <jagginess> roasted, rmdir will only remove empty directories..
[04:24] <peter7pann> irc.p2p-network.net
[04:24] <peter7pann> how do I get to irc.p2p-network.net
[04:24] <jagginess> roasted, find -type d  |xargs rmdir      -- this will delete any subdirectry that is empty from the point you fire the find command
[04:24] <skr_> thoonai: i tried almost everything like installing dconf-tools libdconf0 libdconf-dbus-1-0 but still this error is not going ...
[04:24] <thoonai> how I fix a read-only mounted mp3 player?
[04:24] <weby> jagginess: interesting
[04:25] <roasted> jagginess: I was working with a test here, which was located /home/jason/Desktop/test. In my experiment, I used the -depth command, which starts at the deepest point then works its way up. Problem is, it deleted test in the process. Sure, test was empty at this point, but I didn't want "test" deleted too.
[04:25] <thoonai> skr_: im searching in my brain how to solve that
[04:25] <jagginess> roasted, what remove command did you use?
[04:25] <roasted> rmdir
[04:25] <roasted> with find
[04:25] <jagginess> roasted, test was empty
[04:26] <jagginess> roasted, try using -i if you want to be prompted
[04:26] <roasted> jagginess: I created empty dir's within test. So of course, when the command ran it deleted the dir's within test.
[04:26] <jagginess> roasted, actually i dont think there's an -i for rmdir
[04:26] <roasted> jagginess: the thing is, even though test was empty at this point, I didn't want test deleted.
[04:26] <skr_> thoonai: when i do strace gedit i get "open("/usr/share/gnome/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[04:26] <skr_> open("/usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[04:26] <skr_> write(2, "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'mem"..., 124GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications."
[04:26] <roasted> jagginess: Is there a way to do this and specify to only rmdir up until a certain point?
[04:26] <roasted> jagginess: aka, up until "test" and stop?
[04:27] <jagginess> roasted, ?
[04:27] <jagginess> roasted, not rmdir, but with find..
[04:27] <roasted> jagginess: okay, so... I'm working with a parent directory called "test"
[04:27] <roasted> jagginess: right, but find has to execute a command. It's running as -exec rmdir
[04:27] <alfabit> pythor: when you run "mount", what device shows as your "/" device ? (first line returned)
[04:27] <jagginess> roasted, eh
[04:28] <jagginess> roasted, --maxdepth (not --depth)
[04:28] <roasted> jagginess:  $ find /home/jason/Desktop/test/ -depth -type d -exec -maxdepth 1 rmdir {} \;
[04:28] <jagginess> ,/-maxdepth (one minus)
[04:28] <thoonai> skr_: so does glib is correctly installed?
[04:28] <pythor> alfabit, /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:28] <roasted> jagginess: -depth means it starts from the bottom and works its way up. It's cleaner if you have multiple directories within each other that is empty.
[04:28] <roasted> jagginess: I wnat it to start from the bottom and work its way up, so -depth isneeded.
[04:28] <roasted> I just don't want test to getnuked in the process.
[04:29] <thoonai> skr_: possibly you just have to remove and reinstall it
[04:29] <skr_> thoonai: i think so
[04:29] <jagginess> roasted, ?
[04:29] <alfabit> pythor: I want to make sure I understand your issue. You can't boot your install without the USB drive ?
[04:29] <thoonai> now i dont get my mp3 player writable
[04:29] <jagginess> roasted, so just run it a second time...
[04:29] <skr_> thoonai: i had tried that reinstalling glib...
[04:29] <thoonai> skr_: and? same error?
[04:30] <jagginess> roasted, if a directory has empty subdirectories, then run it a second time to delete the parent directory that is empty..
[04:30] <skr_> thoonai: yes..
[04:30] <jagginess> roasted, -maxdepth 1 << useless
[04:30] <roasted> jagginess: I suppose I could dothat.
[04:30] <thoonai> skr_: hows the content od the folder where the file should be missing? is it really missing?
[04:30] <pythor> alfabit, Yup.  If I boot without the USB in, it tries to boot an old windows partition on one of my data drives.  If I disconnect that drive too, it just says OS missing.
[04:30] <roasted> jagginess: butwould it preserve "test"...
[04:30] <jagginess> roasted, might as well do rmdir *<enter>
[04:30] <jagginess> lol
[04:30] <thoonai> help I need my mp3 player
[04:30] <roasted> jagginess: why would I do that?
[04:30] <skr_> thoonai: yes..
[04:30] <alfabit> pythor, but if you use the super grub disk then it works w/o the USB drive, is that correct?
[04:30] <JonnyRo> Using ubuntu 12.10 on mac mini.  Xorg keeps outputting EQ overflow continuing.  Graphics performance sluggish at best.
[04:31] <thoonai> I want to go home with music ^^
[04:31] <JonnyRo> Anything offhand i should try?
[04:31] <jagginess> roasted, rmdir a b c d e f g    << a b c d e f g are subfolders
[04:31] <roasted> jagginess: here's the problem. This is formy video surveillance on my property. I have a find command that nukes all files older than 3 days, but the problem is I have empty directories left over. The cameras create directories for the feeds based on date/hour/minute.
[04:31] <skr_> thoonai:i cant even find /usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0 folder..
[04:31] <jagginess> roasted, ?
[04:31] <roasted> jagginess: so when my script runs at midnight to clean up the feeds and delete files older than 3 days, it leaves the empty parent folders behind. So this little project is to automate the removal of theempty directories left behind.
[04:32] <jagginess> roasted, is it backed up?
[04:32] <roasted> jagginess: yeah
[04:32] <pythor> alfabit, No, the USB I'm talking about now is the SuperGrubDisk iso.  My actual CD drive doesn't work, so it's not an actual disk.
[04:32] <skr_> thoonai:i cant even find /usr/share/ubuntu/glib-2.0 folder.. this folder is in /usr/share/glib-2.0
[04:32] <jagginess> roasted, so instead of "copying" it to the system you want to delete it to, why not do copying to a mountpoint directly?
[04:32] <alfabit> pythor: Ok. That makes sense, gotcha. Here's my suggestion: once you're booted, do a sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2
[04:32] <roasted> jagginess: er, copy? what am I copying?
[04:33] <jagginess> ,/you want to delete it "from"/
[04:33] <thoonai> skr_: ... ok please try to make a ymlink to /usr/share/ubuntu ^^
[04:33] <jagginess> roasted, you "deleting" it or moving it?
[04:33] <alfabit> pythor: and: once you're booted, before you reinstall grub..take the USB drive out, to avoid problems on hard disk detection step.
[04:33] <thoonai> problem: read-only device needs music soon, how do i get it writable?
[04:33] <roasted> jagginess: I'm trying to remove the empty directories left behind from the automatic removal of files older than 3 days
[04:33] <raiborn> hello to all, i need some orientation please :(
[04:34] <thoonai> raiborn: o/
[04:34] <skr_> thoonai: i will try that let you know...
[04:35] <pythor> alfabit, I can't do that.  apt-get gives me an error about broken packages, and a dependency: "grub2 : Depends: grub-pc (= 1.99-21ubuntu3.4) "
[04:35] <jagginess> roasted, automatic removal of files?
[04:35] <roasted> jagginess: nevermind
[04:35] <jagginess> roasted, sounds like an odd script to delete video files..
[04:35] <thoonai> raiborn: ask your question
[04:35] <roasted> jagginess: It's a perfectly logical script.
[04:35] <roasted> jagginess: how else would you remove files older than 3 days besides find?
[04:35] <raiborn> hello thoonai, im new to linux systems and im setting up a ubuntu server, i already installed all the lamp stuff, i can access locally to my sites, but when i try to access from outside the local network it wont let me :(
[04:35] <jagginess> roasted, if you explain as to why you're deleting things, and where thigns are being backed up.. it'll be easier to accomplish the same task..
[04:35] <Ali3nat0r> roasted: seeing half the conversation, but on my server I back up databases every day at 00:00, everything is in a known filename format like sql-database1-03-Jan-12 and I do automatic removal after 5 days, is this what you're on about but with video directories?
[04:35] <raiborn> sorry im a little slow, english is not my native
[04:35] <roasted> jagginess: simple. disk space.
[04:36] <roasted> jagginess: my cameras take up 50GB per day,and I have 2.... so that's 100GB a day. So yes, I only want 3 days of footage.
[04:36] <alfabit> pythor: you definitely want grub-pc. If it can't be installed..we need to solve that first.
[04:36] <thoonai> raiborn: ok tell me whats your webserver
[04:36] <roasted> jagginess: so the script removes feeds older than 3 days from the surveillance directory. Problem is, then I have a folder for each of those days remaining, and a folder ofr each hour within those days remaining... however... they're empty.
[04:36] <roasted> jagginess: so I'm trying to automate the removal of the now-empty folders.
[04:37] <thoonai> raiborn: you possibly bind the webserver to localhost and not to domain or ip
[04:37] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: not entirely
[04:37] <thoonai> problem: read-only device needs music soon, how do i get it writable?
[04:37] <alfabit> pythor: You have a network connection once your system starts up, right? Does sudo apt-get update work without errors?
[04:37] <jagginess> roasted, ok.. so why not make a symlink?
[04:37] <roasted> jagginess: what on earth will a symlink do forme?
[04:37] <raiborn> so instead of localhost i must put the private ip address?
[04:37] <jagginess> roasted, your script is badly made
[04:37] <roasted> jagginess: my script is made as per what dozens of Google searches recommend.
[04:38] <jagginess> roasted, just delete by date
[04:38] <roasted> jagginess: and I'll ask again, how on earth would a symlink help me here?
[04:38] <thoonai> raiborn: yeah this would be the first point of failure ^^
[04:38] <sanna> Molotov?
[04:38] <jagginess> roasted, nmind that.. tried to find a cheap hack for ya.. easier is to use find by date
[04:38] <roasted> jagginess: No, I want to delete by folders older than 3 days. Hence -mtime +3 in find.
[04:38] <MoL0ToV> sanna
[04:38] <MoL0ToV> works?
[04:38] <roasted> jagginess: I can't even have this conversation anymore. Thanks anyway.
[04:38] <jagginess> roasted, sure use that..
[04:38] <roasted> jagginess: IAM
[04:38] <jagginess> roasted, bye..
[04:38] <sanna> Molotov :/
[04:38] <roasted> holy hell
[04:38] <raiborn> could you please point me in the right direction?, what file i must edit in apache2?
[04:38] <sanna> no :/ *
[04:39] <MoL0ToV> -> query
[04:39] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: sorry, my setup isn't really dealing with backups, but basically the automatic rotation of files I have.
[04:39] <thoonai> raiborn: i think there must be an /etc/apache2/something.conf
[04:39] <thoonai> problem: read-only device needs music soon, how do i get it writable?
[04:39] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: I found a logical and super easy way to rotate the video feeds, but as I said I'm left with empty directories those feeds once occupied, so now I'm trying to automate that portion of it.
[04:40] <raiborn> thoonai: ok brb :)
[04:40] <alfabit> raiborn, it sounds like you are being blocked by a firewall on your local network. Maybe at your router ?
[04:40] <raiborn> router doesnt have a firewall
[04:40] <raiborn> i can access all my sites locally in every machine inside my network
[04:41] <alfabit> raiborn, if you run 'netstat -ant' do you see something on port 80 and 443 (assuming yes - since it works from other machines)
[04:41] <thoonai> alfabit: or he hasnt bind the pages to his ip
[04:41] <nono> 80
[04:41] <raiborn> ill try change the localhost for the private address, brb
[04:41] <thoonai> raiborn: paste your apache conf somewhere and query it ^^
[04:41] <raiborn> ok wait please im not in the server right now
[04:42] <Ali3nat0r> roasted: Should be the same concept, a camera makes a file/directory with a name containing the date, in which case a script should search for file/directory names containing a date older than say 3 days old and rm them. An easier alternative is that directories don't take up much space at all, so you could just manually delete them when they get too much
[04:42] <pythor> alfabit, did you get my last message? (about the could not be downloaded error?)
[04:43] <thoonai> please help
[04:43] <Ali3nat0r> (What I used to do with my databases before they were as big as they are now)
[04:43] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: yeah, and that's whatI've been doing, just for organizational purposes I was hoping to automate the directories as well.
[04:43] <thoonai> want go home, have no music and my mps is wp
[04:44] <alfabit> pythor, yes, you may have lost my messages. We need to fix your apt-get before we can fix grub. You definitely need grub-pc installed.
[04:44] <alfabit> pythor: once your system boots correctly (using the USB), do you have an active network connection?
[04:45] <jagginess> alfabit, ?
[04:45] <pythor> Ok.. Apt-get upgrade works fine.  reports nothing to upgrade.  Yup, I'm on the PC we're talking about now.
[04:45] <thoonai> help, I want go home, have no music and my mp3 is writeprotected
[04:45] <roasted> Ali3nat0r: do youknow of such a way to put a quota on a directory? and perhaps anything over 300GB and it begins deleting the oldest material first?
[04:45] <alfabit> jagginess, sorry, did I miss a query from you?
[04:45] <jagginess> thoonai, sounds like you're working at a job ? lol
[04:45] <CoolChapChad> WOBBUFFET!! >_<
[04:46] <thoonai> jagginess: o.o?
[04:46] <alfabit> pythor: good. before reinstalling grub: can you do an 'update-grub' ?
[04:46] <CoolChapChad> like really, microsoft is like this masterfully crafted ball of "give me money ... keep giving me money ... and I will never give you what you really want"
[04:46] <alfabit> pythor: oh! and pull that usb drive now.
[04:46] <jagginess> CoolChapChad, m$ sux
[04:46] <pythor> alfabit, Yup, I did that...  I'll do it again with the USB stick out.
[04:46] <replica> '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' can any1 help on tht one ?
[04:46] <CoolChapChad> Seb: aptitude is only for package management, yast is for system administration
[04:46] <thoonai> help, I want go home, have no music and my mp3 is writeprotected
[04:46] <replica> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing
[04:47] <jagginess> CoolChapChad, you forgot yast2
[04:47] <pythor> alfabit, update-grub found a bunch of stuff, and finished with no error.
[04:47] <jagginess> CoolChapChad, the counterpart on suse is "zypper" .
[04:47] <thoonai> why does nobody cares about my write protected device?
[04:47] <CoolChapChad> ok it sux then
[04:47] <alfabit> pythor: that's great! If you want..try rebooting now.
[04:48] <pythor> alfabit... OK.  Wish me luck!
[04:48] <jagginess> replica, yeah.. i had that problem.. simply reinstall vbox
[04:48] <alfabit> pythor: Good luck :) If it's still not working ping me again.
[04:48] <jagginess> replica, it'll re-compile the drivers for your updated kernel.. (its because you booted into a newer kernel)
[04:49] <vjacob> hiya. i'm trying to install ubuntu (12.04.1 LTS) and select encryption, as I used to, but I'm not seeing the pop-up as usual.
[04:49] <replica> wat abt dkms packages?
[04:49] <Ali3nat0r> roasted: fraid not no. Only way I can think of doing it would be to write a script. How are the filenames of each folder formatted?
[04:49] <vjacob> Any insights on how to get back to the install process that I remember?
[04:49] <replica> shd i install thm to solve th problm
[04:49] <CoolChapChad> Anybody running Intrepid yet?
[04:49] <alfabit> replica: yup, jagginess is right. that script doesn't exist, it's a bug. try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic dkms virtualbox-dkms
[04:50] <thoonai> vjacob: so can set the encryption of your homefolder after the setup if necessary
[04:50] <jagginess> (apt-get --reinstall install virtualbox)
[04:50] <vjacob> thoonai, what if I want the whole disk encryption?
[04:50] <CoolChapChad> hi is there a way to have kde for one user, gnome for another and say xfce for the 3rd on the same box?
[04:50] <thoonai> oh thats another problem?
[04:50] <thoonai> -? +.
[04:50] <jagginess> CoolChapChad, yeah.. the "gear" icon on the logn menu
[04:50] <alfabit> vjacob, I think full disk encryption is only available using the "alternate" install CD.
[04:51] <vjacob> I'm not particular to that particular install process, however it might be easier... if that approach was still possible
[04:51] <vjacob> hmm
[04:51] <flash_x_> hi
[04:51] <vjacob> thanks.
[04:51] <CoolChapChad> can you please tell what libs to install to make this command run properly cc lex.yy.c -ll
[04:51] <thoonai> vjacob: lvm or just encrypted partition with unencrypted boot?
[04:51] <vjacob> alfabit, thoonai: appreciated.
[04:51] <vjacob> thoonai, we will see what -alternate says
[04:51] <thoonai> vjacob: ok
[04:51] <vjacob> I guess I might have to do without it this time around, out of time here.
[04:51] <vjacob> cheers
[04:52] <pythor> alfabit, I'm back ;'(  Still get the Missing OS message when the USB stick isn't plugged in.
[04:52] <donnie> Ok. I have a sansa mp3 player that's supposed to be supported by any and all computers. It has a slot for a MicroSD card. However My system isn't 'reading' it... Could I be missing a package of codecs?
[04:52] <CoolChapChad> What?
[04:52] <jagginess> donnie, it's likely fat32
[04:52] <alfabit> pythor, ok. GRUB2 probably needs to be reinstalled to the Master Boot Record of your disk.
[04:53] <thebishop> hi folks
[04:53] <jagginess> donnie, dosfstools package should be installed
[04:53] <thoonai> thebishop: o/
[04:53] <donnie> jagginess Where do I find said package to install
[04:53] <alfabit> pythor: Make sure the USB drive is pulled. Then, /dev/sda should be your hard disk - do sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:54] <jagginess> donnie, with synaptic if you installed it or via apt-get
[04:54] <CoolChapChad> [man]
[04:54]  * jagginess ignores the cool bot
[04:54] <Ali3nat0r> OK I found a bit about my YouTube problem, YouTube lags but the same file downloaded in 1080 I can view perfectly in fullscreen, so it can't be the graphics. It's got to be Flash being a CPU pig, any ideas why it's using more on Ubuntu than Windows 7?
[04:54] <CoolChapChad> usb 7-3: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[04:55] <pythor> alfabit, I get an error with that command: "source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory"
[04:55] <raiborn> ok wait please im not in the server right now
[04:55] <replica> Any other virtual machine i can use other thn virtualbox ?
[04:55] <thebishop> i installed fglrx on my machine with intel/amd hybrid graphics  and it destroyed everything, so i'm attempting to revert back to intel/radeon drivers. Xorg crashes trying to run on the intel card, but i can get a Guest session working after switch to the radeon driver (open source). i can't get my main user's desktop up at all right now.  any clues?
[04:55] <alfabit> Ali3nat0r, is your version of flash current? (I think 11.5 is current?) Right -click on a video to see version info..or about:plugins, in Firefox..
[04:55] <KOunit> Ali3nat0r: Yes, Flash is using more CPU.. I exp'd that problem myself.
[04:55] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, yeah.. it's because you're not using chrome ;) .. I just got sick and tired of stuff like that..
[04:55] <alfabit> pythor: do sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub2
[04:55] <donnie> jagginess says it's installed.. Should I mark for reinstall?
[04:56] <CoolChapChad> how do I change the audoscrolling icon in firefox 3?
[04:56] <brontos> #raspberrypi
[04:56] <KOunit> Ali3nat0r: It's damn laggy in chrome, better in chromium.. I switched to html5
[04:56] <jagginess> donnie, what does -> file -s /dev/<YOUR partition on the sdcard>    say?  does it say something like like "FAT ..." ?
[04:56] <CoolChapChad> sucker punch rain dance posion jab and brick break
[04:56] <OerHeks> Ali3nat0r, most likely if you can play it when downloaded on your machine, it is your internet speed that causes this, not flash
[04:57] <donnie> jaggines My player shows up. but the sd card doesn't. And it's in there and connected..
[04:57] <Ali3nat0r> alfabit: "Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform" and I have 11.2
[04:57] <thoonai> help, my mp3 is still write portected, may you please help me?
[04:57] <CoolChapChad> idiots
[04:57] <pythor> alfabit, still the error message from apt-get about broken packages.
[04:57] <jagginess> donnie, ohh.. that thing.. you may have to do a modprobe of something..
[04:57] <jagginess> donnie, ohh.. that thing.. you may have to do a modprobe of something..
[04:57] <jagginess> oops
[04:57] <jagginess> ,/(controller)
[04:58] <Ali3nat0r> 0erHeks: I have a 40MB+ connection ;) the sound works at full speed it's the video that lags
[04:58] <replica> guyz is der any other virtual machine software i can use in ubuntu apart from virtualbox ? i am jst a noob help me out
[04:58] <CoolChapChad> mate
[04:58] <jagginess> !ops CoolChapChad trolling.
[04:58] <alfabit> pythor: pop open your /etc/apt/sources.list and if you're pointing at a mirror.. switch to the regular ubuntu repo, then save & do sudo apt-get update
[04:58] <thoonai> replica: kvm, vmware, zen
[04:58] <CoolChapChad> i don't de-op taev either, but that's just so i don't have to listen to 45 minutes of whining
[04:58] <donnie> jagginess so how do I get it open? All I need to do is browse the card, put something on it. and it'll get removed
[04:58] <thoonai> !kvm replica
[04:58] <thoonai> why does ubottu doesnt know kvm?
[04:59] <thoonai> ubottu: kvm
[04:59] <Noskcaj> !kvm | replica
[04:59] <CoolChapChad> what what?
[04:59] <jagginess> donnie, you need to be able to see it at least with -> fdisk -l  ..
[04:59] <thoonai> Noskcaj: thanx
[04:59] <jagginess> donnie, do you see your sdcard listed?
[04:59] <replica> thnkx guyz !
[04:59] <CoolChapChad> Voltorb would blow up.
[04:59] <Noskcaj> thoonai, np
[04:59] <jagginess> donnie, use sudo fdisk -l <enter> , if you have to use sudo
[04:59] <ceed^> What's Xhost+ which is run at login?
[04:59] <Noskcaj> replica, also, opendox
[04:59] <CoolChapChad> good, I'm sick of being on people's gaydars
[04:59] <Noskcaj> *openbox
[04:59] <donnie> sudo fdisk -l
[05:00] <donnie> oops
[05:00] <flash_x_> does anybody understand regexp in qt?
[05:00] <skr_> thoonai: i tried using mkdir link to /usr/share/gnome and /usr/share/ubuntu for glib-2.0 even then the error is their...
[05:00] <matrixfox> sudo rm -rf /
[05:00] <CoolChapChad> still can't touch a Chester's or Chubby's
[05:00] <antispin> im trying to install ubuntu from a usb stick on a mac (following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick), i've done all the steps and the sudo dd command seems to complete successfully, but when i try to boot from the USB stick i doesn't even show up as an option
[05:00] <antispin> can anyone help me out?
[05:00] <jagginess> flash_x_, ahh.. just use free online regex builders..
[05:00] <luke_> hello i was wondering if anyone knows about getting java (it is already installed) to be selectable as the default program to start minecraft.jar? it is not appearing on the list
[05:00] <thoonai> skr_: "ln -l" ?
[05:00] <donnie> jagginess I see the player. but not the sdcard
[05:00] <thoonai> Noskcaj: help, my mp3 is write only
[05:00] <jagginess> donnie, can you pastebin ?
[05:00] <alfabit> Ali3nat0r: wow. I wonder what that means. Anyway, I have 11.2, so that's probably normal. You might just be running out of CPU.. I don't like the high def vids b/c yeah, it's slow.
[05:01] <pythor> alfabit, How do I tell if I'm using a mirror?  All the repositories listed look normal to me, unless you count that a few of them start with "us."
[05:01] <donnie> jagginess like paste what my terminals showing?
[05:01] <CoolChapChad> hahahahaha
[05:01] <jagginess> !paste
[05:01] <flash_x_> i need exactly qt syntax, no php and another
[05:01] <PJSingh5000> luke_, did you try $ sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?
[05:02] <thoonai> mp3 write only problem solve please
[05:02] <alfabit> pythor, as long as it says us.archive.ubuntu.com that's good.
[05:02] <thoonai> mp3 write only, give hint please problem solve please
[05:02] <CoolChapChad> right
[05:03] <alfabit> pythor: make sure you have a line for "main", "universe", and "multiverse", and that they are not commented out.
[05:03] <thoonai> i feel stupid when I cant solve this?
[05:03] <skr_> thoonai: i did that and both that error (of not getting the files)is solved but gsetting error is still their...
[05:03] <CoolChapChad> @find Amber Carlton Loving Two Highlanders
[05:03] <Ali3nat0r> I just tried Chromium, it's a bit better - 720 works but 1080 is still lagging, whereas on this same hardware my Wind0ze 7 install can play it no problemo
[05:04] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, chrome is better maybe :)
[05:04] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, (chrome comes with its pepperapi flash)
[05:04] <thoonai> skr_: would be to pleasant to solve this to easily this way
[05:04] <OerHeks> !ot | CoolChapChad
[05:04] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: I thought chromium = chrome
[05:04] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, another reason it may lag, is if you have a bad video driver
[05:04] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, there's distinctions actually..
[05:05] <thoonai> skr_: I dont know how much longer I can help you. Please someone other may help him/her
[05:05] <thoonai> I need some sleep urgently
[05:05] <thoonai> ~.`
[05:06] <skr_> thoonai: thanks for the time and help.
[05:07] <thoonai> skr_: skr_ no problem, I dont think, I get my solution either
[05:07] <alfabit> pythor: which ubuntu release are you on right now?
[05:07] <thoonai> ;)
[05:08] <thoonai> oh please guys, am I the only one with a broken mp3?
[05:08] <pythor> alfabit, I have those.  I pasted my sources.list here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481339/
[05:09] <thoonai> this must be a shifted reality where all mp3 players work properly
[05:09] <elfer> whats a broken mp3?
[05:09] <CoolChapChad> So there's nothing wrong with the script? Even though it's executing both lines 24 to 30, and 32?
[05:09] <thoonai> elfer: its mounted as read only whenever I plug it in
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !who
[05:10] <elfer> maybe re format it
[05:10] <alfabit> pythor, yup, that looks good. So if you do sudo apt-get update, does it complete successfully?
[05:10] <elfer> to fat
[05:10] <CoolChapChad> zeusss: both, eh? i moved my hard drive over to a new computer, and the volume on my music is too low. i need to crank my speakers up to hear it.
[05:10] <thoonai> elfer: its fat
[05:10] <Jordan_U> pythor: I haven't been able to follow anything past your first pastebin, but from that you need to run "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy".
[05:10] <elfer> ntfs maybe?
[05:11] <thoonai> elfer: o.o no. this wont work
[05:11] <elfer> o.o
[05:11] <jgcampbell300> when setting up a software raid with ubuntu 12.04 server do i partition each drive with swap ... like there 36.4G drives x 7 ... so 34G and a 2G swap ?
[05:11] <jgcampbell300> for each drive
[05:12] <pythor> alfabit, Yes, apt-get update runs fine.  Jordan_U, that command is not found.
[05:12] <thoonai> elfer: they woudnt ever build an mp3 player with an ntfs licence ...
[05:12] <Jordan_U> pythor: sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[05:13] <jagginess> jgcampbell300, raid1 -- i tend to just use / and swap..     /dev/sda1 and sdb1 is for my /dev/md0  , and sda2+sdb2 is for md1, I use swap for mda1
[05:13] <alfabit> pythor: yes, try directly installing grub-pc as Jordan_U suggests
[05:13] <GinTonic> my netcard can't work in debian,it can't be light up;but i use 'pon dsl-provider' days ago,
[05:14] <pythor> Jordan_U, no luck... My apt is reporting broken packages whenever I try to install a grub package.  alfabit, Same issue, apt report dependencies on grub2-common and grub-pc-bin.
[05:14] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: Nope just installed Chrome and it does worse than Chromium >.< arrrgh
[05:14] <jgcampbell300> jagginess, cool thanks ... do you think i should take a bit from each drive for swap to make it faster /
[05:14] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, you should check the X log and see if there's problems
[05:14] <thoonai> elfer: it didnt worked
[05:14] <jagginess> jgcampbell300, how many drives are there?
[05:15] <thoonai> elfer: its again mounted read only
[05:15] <jgcampbell300> jagginess, 7
[05:15] <Jordan_U> pythor: Please pastebib the complete output of the command I gave you.
[05:15] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: which file is that?
[05:16] <jagginess> jgcampbell300, i wouldn't know what's best for a "server" edition.. i just use the desktop-alternate and use RAID1 for / and swap
[05:16] <pythor> Jordan_U, somehow I expected you to say that. :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481355/
[05:16] <kfizz> Is it possible to hide buddy list avatars in empathy? I'm attempting to use it for its Ubuntu integration instead of pidgin, but the huge pictures make it difficult to scroll to contacts in my buddy list.
[05:16] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:16] <jgcampbell300> jagginess, ok thanks for your time
[05:16] <zhangyuqing> hi
[05:16] <zhangyuqing> everyone
[05:16] <cfhowlett> zhangyuqing: nihao
[05:17] <jagginess> jgcampbell300, it depends on what your "requirements" are..
[05:17] <zhangyuqing> Hello
[05:17] <GinTonic> my netcard's lamp can't light up ,help me ,i have used pon dsl-provider days ago,but it works in windowsXP
[05:17] <alfabit> pythor: "held broken packages" is the issue. We should release the holds..
[05:17] <jgcampbell300> jagginess, not sure i follow you
[05:17] <thoonai> elfer: nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show , which one I must delete?
[05:18] <thoonai> skr_: please paste your error again i can't find it anymore
[05:18] <Jordan_U> pythor: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:19] <pythor> Jordan_U, alfabit: sudo dpkg --configure -a ran with no output, no errors, or messages at all.
[05:19] <zhangyuqing> try reinstall it
[05:20] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: OK there's nothing in there that looks like a fatal error, then again I don't know what I'm looking for. There's a line "[    25.464] (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets" and then a HUGE list of supported devices, of which mine is included
[05:20] <jagginess> AlanBell, does glxgears run well?
[05:21] <CoolChapChad> heh.
[05:21] <thoonai> which mount options I must change?
[05:21] <Jordan_U> pythor: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade #pastebin output
[05:21] <jagginess> AlanBell, (mesa-utils package)
[05:22] <jagginess> arg
[05:22] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, meant to say to ya
[05:22] <zhangyuqing> update it but the configureation can not changed
[05:22] <pythor> Jordan_U, done.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481364/
[05:22] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, i use that glxgears as a test for my video often
[05:23] <thoonai> my mp3 is mounted read only every time, how do I fix it?
[05:23] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, apt-cache policy grub-pc<enter>
[05:24] <jagginess> pythor, apt-cache policy grub-pc<enter>
[05:24] <thoonai> elfer: help please
[05:24]  * jagginess wonders whats wrong with his keyb today
[05:25] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: Fullscreen at 1920x1080 glxgears gets around 369 fps
[05:26] <Pythor> jagginess, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1481370/
[05:26] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, see chrome://plugins/
[05:26] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, the plugin i have is Adobe Flash Player (2 files) - Version: <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:26] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, which is the pepper api i tihnk
[05:26] <Ali3nat0r> Exactly the same here
[05:26] <alfabit> pythor, everything looks ok.. try: echo "grub2 install" | dpkg --set-selections
[05:27] <alfabit> pythor: do that for grub-common and grub2-common as well.
[05:27] <CoolChapChad> windows is good
[05:27] <Ali3nat0r> As I say Chromium actually works better, as in I can view 720p YT content nicely
[05:28] <Pythor> alfabit, "dpkg: error: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area"  Should I sudo that part after the pipe?
[05:28] <KxTwo> ok I'm back
[05:28] <CoolChapChad> to: Wrong chat.
[05:28] <alfabit> Pythor, yes, sudo it. Sorry.
[05:28] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, also when you do rt-click 'settings' on  flash object, check to see if 'hardware acc' is selected
[05:28] <KxTwo> took me longer than I expected and now I can't remember what I was supposed to do
[05:28] <CoolChapChad> Naht cool
[05:28] <Ali3nat0r> It is
[05:29] <alfabit> Pythor: sudo echo "grub2 install" | dpkg --set-selections
[05:29] <CoolChapChad> nub
[05:29] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, the global settings brings to around -- http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager03.html
[05:29] <Jordan_U> alfabit: That won't help for multiple reasons.
[05:29] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, i have those two items checkmarked (its the flash default)
[05:30] <KxTwo> Should I use the additional drivers feature to install the FGLRX graphics driver?
[05:30] <Pythor> alfabit, those commands ran without any output.
[05:30] <alfabit> Jordan_U, do you have an idea what's keeping that system from reinstalling GRUB2 ?
[05:30] <CoolChapChad> happy birthday to you 7782. i wish u a darkrai tonight
[05:31] <Jordan_U> alfabit: No, but I'm suspicios of the ppas.
[05:31] <alfabit> Hm. Good observation.
[05:31] <cfhowlett> I can't download CodeFree Magazine.  I'm in China and Wordpress is blocked.  Workarounds / Alternatives suggestions welcomed ...
[05:31] <alfabit> Jordan_U, maybe Pythor should comment those out, and apt-get update ?
[05:32] <CoolChapChad> nub
[05:32] <Pythor> alfabit, Jordan_U, I'm willing to try it.
[05:32] <thoonai> ok
[05:32] <thoonai> everything worked
[05:33] <thoonai> 'have you tried it turn off and on again?'
[05:33] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: I think I'm going to cut my losses since Chromium plays 720p stuff fine, just not 1080, I am getting a new CPU in a month or so anyway so that should sort it out. Offline video works fine at 1080 so it's got to be Flash whoring the CPU, since Win7 plays it fine. Cheers anyway
[05:33] <Jordan_U> alfabit: No, conmenting out rarely helps as the packages causing the breakage are already installed. ppa-purge on all of them (which requires that they *not* be commented out) might help.
[05:33] <thoonai> so skr_ no lets help you
[05:34] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, sometimes with hold hardware, the accel options for the driver aren't ideal..
[05:34] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, if its old hardware, its aggravating -- it could be one or two X options that makes a big difference..
[05:34] <alfabit> Pythor, I'll let Jordan_U guide you from here, this is one reason why I avoid dist-upgrades on Ubuntu :-/
[05:34] <KxTwo> So my LT was running kind of hot with 12.10 so it was suggested that it was possibly by GPU which is an ati radeon. so it was recommended to go to 12.04.  Im still running a little hot, around 60c.  Have things changed with the additional drivers feature, in the past when ive used it it hasnt worked?
[05:34] <CoolChapChad> 2
[05:35] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, btw you trying the bleeding edge? (Also I'm using the latest kernel 3.5)
[05:35] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, (kernel too plays a role)
[05:35] <Pythor> alfabit, OK.  Thanks a lot, though.  I've been working on this for 24 hours now, and I really appreciate the help.
[05:36] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: what's the bleeding edge
[05:36] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, I'm using latest chrome..
[05:36] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, btw...
[05:36] <ANub> Heeeeelo
[05:36] <alfabit> Pythor, you're welcome, and good luck. I would suggest - maybe backing up your data, and reinstalling from scratch, might be easier..but the ppa purge might be worth a shot!
[05:37] <thoonai> ANub: o/
[05:37] <ANub> ive a question regarding update manager
[05:37] <BlackDalek> When I modify a linked/inserted image outside of Scribus, the "Item -> Update Image" is always grayed out, yet Scribus obviously knows the image was modified because it replaces the image in document with a red X box... What went wrong?
[05:37] <CoolChapChad> ghosTM55: ask dpkg about tzdata
[05:37] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r,  i'm using this -> "            exec -a "$0" "$HERE/chrome" " --disk-cache-dir=/dev/shm/$USER " "$@"               "   (/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome  < last line replaced) <<< should improve performance..
[05:37] <thoonai> ANub: ask
[05:37] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, ^
[05:37] <thoonai> hopefully someone knows the right answer
[05:37] <ANub> when i open it...............it says following updates are available......for this much size
[05:37] <CoolChapChad> Do you have a link before you have to go?
[05:38] <thoonai> ANub: yes?
[05:38] <Pythor> alfabit, Luckily, most of my data is on a separate drive.  Really my /home is all I have on this that I don't want to lose.
[05:38] <ANub> and all the updates are preselected
[05:38] <thoonai> ANub: please write one block, its easier to read and understand
[05:38] <Pythor> Jordan_U, how exactly do I do a ppa purge?
[05:38] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, (if you want to try that line, make sure there's a space after $USER -- it's a picky line..    first item exec, last "$@")
[05:38] <thoonai> ANub: :)
[05:39] <Jdeks> hi. I've got a problem with a LUKS encrypted drive. Anyone able to help?
[05:39] <ANub> my question is..........are these updates only for packages that are installed on my machine.........or do i need to manually select only those updates against which packages are installed..?
[05:39] <CoolChapChad> What?
[05:39] <graphmastur> Hey, I'm having a bit of trouble accessing my apache server on my ubuntu server. The port is open on the local machine, and I can access it using telnet, but I can't access it outside the machine using anything, including telnet
[05:40] <CoolChapChad> =0
[05:40] <thoonai> ANub: these packages are for Software on your machine
[05:40] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: Noes, still doesn't sort it. Gonna stick with Chromium and use 720 for now
[05:40] <CoolChapChad> Is there a CLI way to do the equivalent of http://www.whatismyip.com/ ?
[05:40] <thoonai> ANub: as more software you install as much more updates you get
[05:40] <CoolChapChad> !butt detroitlolcat
[05:40] <ANub> hmmmm.............i reconned that
[05:41] <CoolChapChad> replica: kvm, vmware, zen
[05:41] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, ~/.xsession-errors ?
[05:41] <ANub> but the update size is 500+ ..............so i thought it could be otherwise
[05:41] <thoonai> CoolChapChad: he asked again 0.0
[05:41] <jagginess> Ali3nat0r, i hope you get your new computer before the New year :)
[05:41] <ANub> 500+ MB
[05:41] <ANub> :)
[05:41] <thoonai> ANub: which programs?
[05:41] <BlackDalek> I have a possibly insolvable question - Is there any way to get someone in #scribus channel to "awaken"? ;)
[05:42] <ANub> accumulated size of all the updates is 500+ MB
[05:42] <graphmastur> so no one can help, then?
[05:42] <Jdeks> you and me both, graphmastur!
[05:42] <thoonai> ANub: which programs are on your hdd and do apt-get uptdate and then apt-get upgrade and dont confirm and paste the list of the needed updates
[05:43] <thoonai> the somebody can tell you if this looks correct
[05:43] <ANub> paste here.......:).........?
[05:43] <thoonai> ANub:  ........ pastebin.com ^^
[05:43] <graphmastur> I'd help, Jdeks, but I don't know anything about LUKS
[05:44] <Jdeks> mate, i wont waste your time :) I've got a really curly one here
[05:44] <Tm_T> CoolChapChad: please try behave and stick strictly on support discussion
[05:45] <Jdeks> ...i thought i was
[05:45] <graphmastur> Yeah, mine is a bit strange too. I've already gone through several forums, and an irc channel looking for the solution.
[05:45] <replica> seriously this virtualbox is a real pain in th ass giving lots of problms
[05:45] <CoolChapChad> aasd
[05:46] <replica> replica@Replica:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[05:46] <replica> sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[05:46] <CoolChapChad> wondering what the effects of the asics will be on that 14
[05:46] <Jdeks> well, I started using linux/ubuntu for the first time like...3 weeks ago. so sadly I  doubt I'll be able to help you with your troubles
[05:46] <graphmastur> yeah, CoolChapChad needs to be kicked @ Tim_T. He's PM'ing spam
[05:46] <jagginess> replica, the reinstall didnt work?
[05:46] <CoolChapChad> why am i not friends with evan on facebook
[05:46] <replica> nope
[05:46] <alfabit> BlackDalek: I think I've seen that before. I guess Scribus stores the file name but also a hash of the file. When you change it, the hash doesn't match..and you get the red X.
[05:47] <Ali3nat0r> jagginess: Nope, no errors and yeah I will do
[05:47] <alfabit> BlackDalek, I think I remember a right-click menu to "update" each red X, then it's fine again..but somewhat annoying, I'm sure..
[05:47] <jagginess> replica, packages i have with virtualbox name in them is -- virtualbox, virtualbox-dkms, virtualbox-wt, and virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[05:47] <jagginess> replica, virtualbox-qt
[05:48] <jagginess> replica, did u try to purge?
[05:48] <replica> hwo to purge ?
[05:48] <replica> help me out
[05:48] <jagginess> replica, apt-get purge virtualbox
[05:49] <Jdeks> Long story short: I have a drive with full disk encryption on it.  Now it drops to an initramfs prompt whenever I try to boot
 I hope i've done.........as you said
[05:49] <CoolChapChad> tmapj: removing old bans
[05:49] <ANub> http://pastebin.com/VJJaCLLB
[05:49] <jagginess> Jdeks, that stuff is fun until it goes broked..
[05:49] <jagginess> Jdeks, that stuff is fun until it goes broked..
[05:49]  * jagginess hates his keyb
[05:49] <Jdeks> and whenever i try to mount the original drive on any other computer, it won't mount. apparently, its a logical volume with no volume group... :/
[05:50] <Jdeks> hahaha, youre telling me jagg!
[05:50] <thoonai> ANub: which version are you running
[05:50] <thoonai> ?
[05:50] <MoL0ToV> MoL0ToV too
[05:50] <ANub> 12.04
[05:50] <Jdeks> totally new to linux, so naturally, the first thing i do is encrypt the entire drive
[05:50] <replica> jaggines, i am done with purge it removed all th packages wat now ?
[05:50] <replica> shd i reinstall thm again?
[05:50] <thoonai> ANub: ok this looks very curious
[05:51] <thoonai> ANub: you had also an error there: duplicate source entry
[05:51] <jagginess> replica, yes..
[05:51] <thoonai> ANub: it seems as he would update the whole system
[05:51] <jagginess> replica, it should reinstall.. dunno/remember why it did for me
[05:51] <replica> can u help me out with th cmds
[05:51] <Pythor> Jordan_U, I got ppa-purge installed, is this the command I need? "sudo ppa-purge ppa:precise/main" ?
[05:52] <CoolChapChad> i swear to god podcasts will be the death of me
[05:52] <jagginess> replica, apt-get install virtualbox :)
[05:52] <replica> ill follow thm up jagginess
[05:52] <ANub> lol............why so..?
[05:52] <CoolChapChad> romo doing romo
[05:52] <replica> no need of sudo at th strt jagginess
[05:52] <jagginess> replica, btw the virtualbox i have is from quantal-updates
[05:52] <thoonai> ANub: ... I think you should ask me tomorrow ~.~ im awake since 6am and its 6:52am again
[05:52] <jagginess> replica, what does -> apt-cache policy virtualbox     , say ?
[05:53] <thoonai> and im still at work ^^
[05:53] <CoolChapChad> what would cause SD cards not to automatically mount in ubuntu?
[05:53] <ANub> oh......sure thoonai.............get some rest..........you look tired...;)
[05:53] <jagginess> finally :)
[05:53] <alfabit> Tm_T thank you!!
[05:53] <replica> jagginess it says
[05:53] <replica> virtualbox:
[05:53] <replica>   Installed: (none)
[05:53] <replica>   Candidate: 4.1.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1.1
[05:53] <replica>   Version table:
[05:53] <replica>      4.1.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 0
[05:53] <FloodBot1> replica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:54] <ANub> thoonai: SAme time tomorrow....?
[05:54] <thoonai> ANub: same time tomorrow is still 6am ^^
[05:54] <jagginess> replica, i just would of like to know what repo you're using.. (the first "500" line)
[05:54] <Tm_T> !paste | replica
[05:54] <thoonai> I think you should ask me at 5-6pm cet
[05:54] <jagginess> replica, the vbox i'm using is 4.1.18-dfsg-1ubuntu1.1
[05:54] <graphmastur> Okay, so currently, when trying to telnet from my computer, and it hangs when saying "Trying <IP_ADDRESS>" that's my server ip on my local network
[05:54] <ANub> its 10:54 am here on my side
[05:55] <ANub> its 10:54 am here on my side..........and i'm in my office
[05:55] <jagginess> replica, in a short time the floodbot will re-enable your voice..
[05:55] <thoonai> ANub: its 6:55am here and im still in laboratory ^^
[05:55] <Jdeks> So I dont suppose anyone is free to help with a problem?
[05:55] <ammini> Hi there, I've gnome-shell configured in Ubuntu 12.10 and want to remove Unity. Is apt-get remove unity* the recommended method to remove unity and the associated files and stay _only_ with gnome-shell? Will that operation break the normal operation of Ubuntu with gnome-shell?
[05:56] <ANub> thoonai: seems like you are from Jap.....:)
[05:56] <thoonai> ANub: other way round, central europe
[05:56] <ANub> oh...yes.....sorry.........miscalculated
[05:56] <ANub> :(
[05:56]  * ammini finds there are lot many un-necessary packages which he doesn't use in the pristine installation of Ubuntu.
[05:57] <ANub> so can you tell me at what GMT time would it be feasible for you to come online again..?
[05:57] <thoonai> ANub: ^^ lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:57] <ANub> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:58] <thoonai> ammini: much people do, but this rescued me often
[05:58] <totem> ammini, try this, www.linuxmint.com
[05:58] <graphmastur> so can anyone here help me with my server woes?
[05:58] <robinp> is the ubuntu 12.10 default kernel compiled with efi stub support ?
[05:59] <Jdeks> *tumbleweed*
[05:59] <Jdeks> *crickets*
[05:59] <ammini> totem: I'm ok with gnome-shell, just wanted unwanted packages to be removed, so that un-necessary updates could be avoided.
[06:00] <Jdeks> *other phenomenon symbolic of silence*
[06:00] <totem> ammini, ubuntu software centre help you
[06:01] <HeKToN> guys is it possible to upgrade 32 bit ubuntu to 64 without erasing it first ?
[06:01] <jagginess> HeKToN, ?
[06:02] <jagginess> HeKToN, you cant upgrade different architectures OSes
[06:02] <Jdeks> I dont think it is hekton....fairly sure you have to start from scratch
[06:02] <HeKToN> very bad so I have 64 bit processor but already installed and set up kubuntu 32
[06:02] <HeKToN> ok
[06:02] <HeKToN> thanks :0
[06:02] <Jdeks> yeah, get to backuping :)
[06:03] <chrisvella94_> hey everyone
[06:03] <Jdeks> HI DR NICK!
[06:03] <Jdeks> i mean, chris
[06:03] <chrisvella94_> lol
[06:03] <chrisvella94_>  could anybody help me with a NFS issue I am having?
[06:04] <Jdeks> may as well ask, thats the only way to find out
[06:04] <Jdeks> nobody's helped me with my LUKS problem though :( :(
[06:04] <chrisvella94_> When I create a NFS shares of my external hard drive, the shares are visible over the network, but I cannot see their contents.
[06:05] <donnie> Unetbootin alternative? Anyone... I have it but when I use it. Non of the iso's actually 'boot'
[06:08] <KxTwo> So my LT was running kind of hot with 12.10 so it was suggested that it was possibly by GPU which is an ati radeon. so it was recommended to go to 12.04.  Im still running a little hot, around 60c.  Have things changed with the additional drivers feature, in the past when ive used it it hasnt worked?
[06:10] <killajay> hello
[06:10] <x_> what's a good linux channel (for a total newb)?
[06:10] <cfhowlett> x_: channel?  I'd suggest you look at the ubuntu forums/beginners section.
[06:11] <thoonai> x_: its #ubuntu or #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:12] <thoonai> but you should also read the manuals because many questions will be answered by reading em. for the rest feel free to ask
[06:12] <KxTwo> sigh
[06:13] <mns> If I go to System Settings -> Details, it says Graphics: Unknown.   Why does it show that ?  lspci tells me that its Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller.
[06:13] <killajay> i got Crunchbang is there any sort of software store or portal for this distro
[06:15] <milamber> !crunchbang
[06:15] <HeKToN> guys as I can`t change the 32 to 64 and as I said I allready setup my ubuntu very well what is the best way to store the settings so when reinstall new copy with 64 to use these settings there and also all the programs already installed ?
[06:15] <cfhowlett> killajay: Crunchbang is not supported in #ubuntu
[06:15] <elfer> chrunchbangs kernel is outdated
[06:16] <elfer> open to vulnerabilities
[06:16] <killajay> thanks
[06:17] <KxTwo> ok so as usual
[06:17] <KxTwo> additional driver install failed
[06:18] <Snafu777> dpkg --list | awk '{print $2}' > foo && while read pop;do apt-get install $pop ;done<foo
[06:18] <Snafu777> Thats for u HeKToN
[06:18] <Snafu777> =)
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> if i install firmware modules in kernel
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> or something other
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> howto tell to linux to recompile the modules
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> and so?
[06:18] <MoL0ToV> to ubuntu
[06:19] <MoL0ToV> to update the kernel config there are a command?
[06:19] <Snafu777> HeKToN: That will install your programs for you....as far as the settings, no idea =)
[06:20] <Heart^Killer> hi i am getting this errror when starting the httpd service
[06:20] <Heart^Killer> Starting httpd: httpd: Syntax error on line 37 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/httpd/conf/extra/httpd-phpmodules.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/mod_ruid2.so into server: /usr/lib/apache/mod_ruid2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:20] <Heart^Killer> i have no clue what this is
[06:21] <graphmastur> Heart^Killer: Does the file /usr/lib/apache/mod_ruid2.so exist?
[06:22] <Heart^Killer> let me check
[06:22] <Heart^Killer> no
[06:22] <Heart^Killer> doesnt
[06:23] <milamber> Heart^Killer: is this a vanilla install? have you modified any of the files? did you install the server from the repos?
[06:24] <KxTwo> can some one help me with video card driver please?
[06:24] <milamber> !info libapache2-mod-ruid2
[06:24] <Heart^Killer> no i am using a directadmin panel and just used commands and since then i am having this trouble
[06:24] <milamber> Heart^Killer: if i had to guess, i would say that is the package you wanted
[06:25] <notNicolas> I am at the end of my rope here
[06:27] <KxTwo> notNicolas, me too but seemed to have missed the helpful group from earlier lol
[06:27] <notNicolas> I absolutely need to be using the fglrx ATI graphics drivers on my acer notebook, but if I install fglrx my computer becomes extremely buggy
[06:27] <graphmastur> I'm at the end of my rope, and I can't get anyone to seem to try and help me with this.
[06:27] <Testing> Hello, I anxiously need help with my Ubuntu computer.
[06:27] <Testing> I am trying to use the su command in terinal
[06:27] <Testing> aka super user command
[06:27] <KxTwo> notNicolas, hwo did you isntall the driver, thats what im trying to do?
[06:27] <Testing> I am positive the password is corect, but it keeps saying invalid!
[06:27] <seednode> Testing: And...?
[06:27] <seednode> Ah.
[06:28] <Testing> I tried changing my password, still no luck.
[06:28] <notNicolas> I installed it using "apt-get install fglrx" etc, but if I install it shit goes down
[06:28] <KxTwo> I cant even get ubuntu to install the 3rd party driver
[06:28] <seednode> Su needs root password, sudo uses your password
[06:28] <seednode> If that helps
[06:28] <seednode> Unless you're root
[06:28] <notNicolas> when the computer wakes up from sleep, the screen's lighting stays darker and it keeps getting worse until it's completely black
[06:28] <Testing> So, is this password different from my login password?
[06:28] <seednode> Well, assuming you're a sudoer, just use sudo [command]
[06:28] <notNicolas> and most of the time when I boot it up, it fails to start the xserver
[06:28] <notNicolas> and just stays at a black screen for hours
[06:28] <seednode> su makes you run commands as another user; in this case, root.
[06:29] <seednode> Sudo allows you to do admin-only commands
[06:29] <notNicolas> then when it does work, I'm plagued by problems like needing to restart my computer to enable multiple monitors
[06:29] <Testing> Well the main objective for me to finalize is to flood a website, yet I need to be a super user to do so, it says.
[06:29] <seednode> Um...
[06:29] <notNicolas> but I NEED fglrx otherwise I cannot use OpenGL 3.3 for my development
[06:29] <seednode> May I ask why you're flooding a website?
[06:29] <KxTwo> god damn it
[06:29] <notNicolas> I've been googling for months but there's no hope
[06:29] <Testing> I was just going to test the -f command, for a minute or so.
[06:30] <KxTwo> I keep trying to install the driver from the driver utulity but it keeps failing.  The catalyst control panel installs but that is it
[06:30] <seednode> Testing: Well, not sure what you're doing.
[06:30] <notNicolas> yeah ATI drivers are so embarassingly broken
[06:30] <seednode> But, for now, just try "sudo whatevercommand"
[06:30] <seednode> And then enter your user password
[06:30] <KxTwo> I got it to work on my old system but cant remember how
[06:30] <Testing> I'll try that..
[06:30] <KxTwo> I have a .run file that I remember using but now sure how
[06:33] <seednode> Testing, any luck?
[06:34] <Testing> Please forgive me again for interupting, I never recall rooting my Ubuntu computer. Is it automatically rooted, or is it something to do later on? I'm pretty sure it's not rooted, so I'm pretty lost with the whole typing in my password for the su command. I recall earlier today getting the su command to accomplish fine, but after a reboot it keeps saying it's incorrect. I'm 100% sure my password is valid, since I tested changing my
[06:34] <Testing> correct.
[06:34] <Testing> I'm very lost.
[06:35] <Testing> I'm not trying to specifcally use the sudo command, even though it's categorized it, I'd prefer to use the su command itself, if possible
[06:35] <Testing> *even though it's categorized under sudo
[06:35] <milamber> !root | Testing
[06:36] <seednode> Well, you don't "root" your Ubuntu computer, Ubuntu has a root account by default
[06:36] <seednode> Last I checked.
[06:36] <OerHeks> Testing, sudo <command> is the ubuntu way, root account is disabled
[06:37] <seednode> I can't really think of a plus to using su...
[06:37] <seednode> For that usage, anyways
[06:38] <OerHeks> Testing the 1st user created during install, has root/administrator privelege
[06:38] <Testing> quote from the page I was forwarded to: it needs YOUR USER password, and not the Root account password.
[06:38] <Testing> I am typing in the user, admin's password.
[06:38] <Testing> Why am I getting the error?!
[06:39] <KxTwo> ahh I finally got it to work and my temp dropped a little bit
[06:39] <seednode> Wait, Ubuntu's root account is disabled? Dang, I wasn't actually aware of that.
[06:39] <seednode> I guess that's what I get for not actually using it :/
[06:39] <Testing> I never rooted the computer.
[06:39] <milamber> Testing: what command are you typing in and what error are you getting?
[06:39] <OerHeks> Testing, "<Testing> Well the main objective for me to finalize is to flood a website" has nothing to do with ubuntu support, sorry, won't help you
[06:39] <milamber> Testing: you are using the term "rooted" incorrectly
[06:39] <Testing> The objective is to get the su command to work.
[06:40] <seednode> OerHeks: not saying I advocate flooding websites, but technically his question is support related
[06:40] <Testing> I cannot get terminal to recognize me, the admin as a superuser.
[06:40] <KxTwo> that must have been it, now that I have the driver its running only a few degrees above what it does on windows
[06:40] <milamber> Testing: you didn't actually answer the question
[06:41] <Testing> alan@alan-VPCEE31FX:~$ su Password:  su: Authentication failure alan@alan-VPCEE31FX:~$
[06:42] <seednode> Testing, I think he means the command you want to run as su
[06:42] <KxTwo> just use sudo
[06:42] <seednode> ^
[06:42] <KxTwo> though I msised most of what you were talking about
[06:42] <milamber> Testing: su is not going to work unless you set up a root account. you have to do: sudo <command> and then type in your password
[06:42] <Testing> So for instance:
[06:43] <Testing> sudo ping (details here)?
[06:43] <milamber> Testing: (and setting up a root account is not supported here)
[06:43] <seednode> Yes, but ping shouldn't require root...
[06:43] <KxTwo> ping doesnt require sudo
[06:43] <KxTwo> what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:43] <seednode> Just out of curiosity, milamber, why isn't setting up a root account supported?
[06:43] <KxTwo> yesss my driver even matches
[06:43] <KxTwo> m96
[06:45] <milamber> !sudo > seednode
[06:45] <milamber> seednode: it boils down to "it's not the ubuntu way"
[06:45] <KxTwo> Ok is there an easy way to determine if my temperature display is accurate?
[06:46] <wiiw> when I connect my android phone, usb0 is appear in `ifconfig` , and my default route is disappear
[06:46] <seednode> milamber: Ah, so similar to #windows' "way" of kickbanning anyone who mentions non-proprietary software?
[06:46] <wiiw> how to disable usb0 delete my default route gateway
[06:47] <Jamesdwade> Hello?
[06:47] <KxTwo> having no luck here tonight
[06:47] <asilhouette> the special characters not working with compose key feature. help!!!
[06:48] <seednode> KxTwo, there's no way that I know of.
[06:48] <Jamesdwade> Can anyone see me chat? im grey on my screen
[06:48] <cfhowlett> Jamesdwade: we see you
[06:48] <Jamesdwade> k
[06:49] <Jamesdwade> In terminal how would i run a .sh?
[06:49] <milamber> seednode: not really, there are valid reasons for it. one being anyone coming to this channel for assistance probably shouldn't be changing configurations related to administrative privileges without fully understanding the repercussions. it also makes things easier when trying to troubleshoot if we know what the default configuration is supposed to be
[06:49] <wiiw> when I connect my android phone, usb0 is appear in `ifconfig` , and my default route gateway is disappear , how to stop this ?
[06:49] <seednode> bash ./whatever.sh
[06:49] <Jamesdwade> thank you
[06:49] <asilhouette> i've set right win key as compose key but, while i try to generate special characters using multiple keys, it just prints the regular characters
[06:49] <milamber> Jamesdwade: if you downloaded it, also check that it is executable
[06:49] <KxTwo> seednode, thank you.  Another question.  I could be wrong but I could have sworn that my GPU had a sensor as well, how can i check that?
[06:49] <seednode> IF it isn't, sudo chmod +x ./whatever,sh
[06:49] <seednode> I think
[06:49] <COMPUTER> i cant boot from cd , some1 help
[06:50] <Jamesdwade> it is executable
[06:50] <asilhouette> you can just use the right click-> properties to set the chmod to executables
[06:50] <seednode> COMPUTER: Are you sure the CD is bootable?
[06:50] <KxTwo> wait I think there is is a detect command
[06:50] <seednode> asilhouette: True, but he was asking about in command line
[06:50] <COMPUTER> i dont know, i cant even go on bios
[06:50] <COMPUTER> its a gateway laptop
[06:51] <milamber> COMPUTER: if the bios screen isn't showing up, it's probably a hardware problem
[06:51] <asilhouette> seednode: know anything about why my compose key not working. :)
[06:51] <seednode> COMPUTER: This isn't a solution, per se, but have you tried booting from a flash drive?
[06:51] <Linux> Could possibly be the hard drive, in my knowledge.
[06:51] <COMPUTER> it shouldnt be a problem
[06:52] <COMPUTER> yes i have tried usa boot
[06:52] <seednode> asilhouette: No, sorry; I have little to no experience with key remapping.
[06:52] <Jamesdwade> Im trying to decompile a program and im using decompile.sh and it isnt decompiling it so i was told to try the command line
[06:52] <Linux> I have no password, it says so in my settings. I'm now trying to get my admin priveleges, and it says I need to type in my password.
[06:52] <Linux> I tried everything I knew.
[06:52] <KxTwo> ok apparently psensor does not install lmsensor
[06:52] <Linux> Tried my original password, leaving it blank, nothing worked.
[06:52] <Linux> :(
[06:52] <seednode> KxTwo, it did for me...
[06:52] <seednode> It should be a dependency
[06:52] <seednode> Unless they changed it
[06:53] <milamber> !sudo > Linux
[06:53] <KxTwo> am I typing it wrong?
[06:53] <KxTwo> its not saying lmsensor exists or recommends a package?
[06:53] <milamber> Linux: there is a link in that message that will help you fix your sudo
[06:53] <seednode> KxTwo, I think it's lmsensors
[06:53] <seednode> But not sure