[22:23] <Azhi_Dahaka> Yes
[22:23] <KlrSpz> Azhi_Dahaka: samba
[22:23] <KlrSpz> !who
[22:23] <Darklustx> Hey guys, I recently updated from feisty to heron, and the cool window effects and stuff werent enabled like before, so I went to enable them in Appearance and it told me I couldnt set them.
[22:23] <Darklustx> Whats wrong?
[22:23] <Azhi_Dahaka> Out of the box, I can read the shared files from my XP computer
[22:23] <BlueEagle> dysje: Then I would assume you've got a more spesific question than "help me with the wireless". Like which driver should I use or somesuch.
[22:23] <Dillizar> can any body gimme the comand to re install the sound driver?
[22:23] <KlrSpz> Darklustx: you might still have the old driver package installed; try checking if you have restricted-drivers installed
[22:24] <Azhi_Dahaka> I want to do the opposite, to share files from my Ubuntu one
[22:24] <MadsRH> How do I write the location on this project https://launchpad.net/syllabus   in this format  bazaar.launchpad.net/~registrant/project/branch
[22:24] <KlrSpz> Dillizar: apt-get install --reinstall alsa*
[22:24] <richcollins> x-ip: Ah.  I had to run ldconfig after installing libc6-dev
[22:24] <Darklustx> KirSpz: I do, what does it mean?
[22:24] <richcollins> It added the entry
[22:24] <dysje> BlueEagle: WPA isn't working, getting strange errors, using ndiswrapper which on itself is doing weird things to begin with
[22:24] <x-ip> richcollins, perfect :)
[22:24] <DigitalFiz> ok THATS why you guys have gnome in ubuntu hehe
[22:24] <BlueEagle> dysje: Specifying what kind of "weird errors" you're getting would also help.
[22:24] <richcollins> x-ip: Thanks for your help
[22:24] <Stevenie> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[22:24] <x-ip> richcollins, ou ... np =)
[22:24] <KlrSpz> Darklustx: that's an old package for drivers; now you can install nvidia-glx-new
[22:24] <Dillizar> KlrSpz: Permission denied
[22:25] <Darklustx> KlrSpz: through apt?
[22:25] <KlrSpz> Dillizar: sudo
[22:25] <KlrSpz> Darklustx: yes
[22:25] <Dillizar> KlrSpz: sorry
[22:25] <Dillizar> :D
[22:25] <BlueEagle> wizzer: Is it mounted with ntfs-3g?
[22:25] <dysje> BlueEagle: it won't search for networks automatically, i have to manually connect, after that is done, it'll keep finding networks for the session. So the drivers/scan functions aren't working initially, after that though, WPA still won't work as it's giving errors that association isn't working, depending on the mood of the drivers though
[22:26] <dysje> BlueEagle: it also says "failed to disable WPA in the driver" whenever i cancel wpa_supplement
[22:26] <dysje> supplicant
[22:26] <MadsRH> is there a better IRC for Launchpad questions?
[22:27] <wizzer> how do i check if it is?
[22:27] <BlueEagle> wizzer: mount
[22:27] <BlueEagle> wizzer: that will list all mounted partitions and their file systems.
[22:27] <KlrSpz> MadsRH: try #ubuntu+1
[22:27] <x-ip> does someone want to collaborate here ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/TODO
[22:27] <BlueEagle> dysje: Hmm.. That is weird. :/ I haven't used ndiswrapper so I'm not sure how to debug that one, sorry.
[22:28] <MadsRH> KlrSpz -> Thanks
[22:28] <jabba> hallo
[22:28] <jabba> erm hello
[22:28] <x-ip> jabba, hola :P
[22:28] <dysje> BlueEagle: seems to be going wrong somewhere in ndiswrapper towards driver
[22:28] <Darklustx> KlrSpz: I dont have nvdia, I have the intel chipset, so what would I do?
[22:28] <wizzer> doesn't seem to say anything about ntfs-3g
[22:29] <KlrSpz> Darklustx: ummm... not sure? don't run intel on any of my boxes... check the ubuntu site
[22:29] <jabba> i just made an extended desktop setup with my laptop i810. und wondered why there is only 800x600 (or even less?) on the 2nd monitor....
[22:29] <BlueEagle> wizzer: What does the line describing the partition on which the media files exist?
[22:29] <Dillizar> KlrSpz:  i still have problem with /def/dsp and /def/audio
[22:29] <BlueEagle> say
[22:30] <jabba> and i wonder if it is possible only to have this extension, without really be able to move the mous ober to that area
[22:30] <wizzer> (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[22:30] <vexe> does anyone know anything about iphones in here?
[22:30] <jabba> cause i only need it for presentations
[22:30] <BlueEagle> vexe: I know that they are overpriced and overly restricted.
[22:31] <vexe> i think we all know that!
[22:31] <Crashmike> How can I change the resolution of my flatscreen display? I edited the Xorg.conf, but after restart there is always the low resolution mode
[22:31] <BlueEagle> vexe: If you want to know something else I suggest you ask a more spesific question.
[22:31] <dysje> vexe: why would anyone even want to know, but what's the question? :p
[22:31] <vexe> i pwned my iphone and it wont pick up on ubuntu
[22:31] <frank34> Hi all...question...anyone knows about em28xx firmware xc3028L-v36 and how to get it for a ati tv wonder 600 usb
[22:31] <Dillizar> KlrSpz:  i still have problem with /def/dsp and /def/audio can you help me
[22:31] <Slart> Crashmike: then x isn't setup right.. afaik it only goes into low res mode when something errors out
[22:32] <Slart> Dillizar: /dev/dsp and /dev/audio?
[22:32] <BlueEagle> vexe: a bit more spesific to the "pwnage" in question would most likely help.
[22:32] <KlrSpz> Dillizar: what kind of problem
[22:32] <krugar> hello all. I've setup xampp. All is well. I can see http://localhost. I've set a ~/Projects folder to act as repository to my web projects. ~/Projects/gusmao is one of these projects. I have http.conf define an alias to it. But Apache complains with 403 Forbidden - You don't have permission to access /gusmao/ on this server. How can setup access rights?
[22:32] <Dillizar> yes Slart
[22:32] <chamuscas> tundrayeti312, simcity4 is supported by wine =/ but i still have the same problem, what about crossover is it one ubuntu's repository ?
[22:32] <BlueEagle> vexe: ...or to rephrase: wtf?!
[22:32] <KlrSpz> Dillizar: aslo i'm at work, so i might be slow to respond
[22:32] <Slart> Dillizar: tell us about this problem
[22:32] <shelby__> hey guys can i ask you swomething.. for some reason when i start my laptop, the sound works for like 20 secs... after that it fades slowly out until nothing will play restarting alsa dosent help do you have any ideas?
[22:32] <Crashmike> @slart...ok... but its mysteroius...when I feed the Xorg.conf with the specs of my monitor it does right
[22:33] <Tundrayeti312> chamuscas:  I'm not familiar, but I believe you have to pay for it
[22:33] <iforigua> some one knows what configure file for quick launch buttons on hp laptop
[22:33] <trdickson> krugar: http://localhost/xampp contains setup pages and security setup
[22:33] <Slart> Crashmike: X is mysterious.. I'm surprised every time it works =)
[22:33] <Dillizar> KlrSpz: or Slart i cant use my skype i cant use my amsn its saying that it cant access the files
[22:33] <ubuntu> Hey can somebody please help me
[22:33] <keevie> i am trying to compile wordnet, but i get a small error on ./configure and it wont make. . . http://paste.ubuntu.com/55791/ can anyone help?
[22:33] <Crashmike> lol
[22:33] <Tundrayeti312> !ask > ubuntu
[22:33] <ubuntu> thanks you
[22:33] <vexe> i wont bother anyone else with this, it seems like a simple answer  i should just keep looking
[22:34] <chamuscas> Tundrayeti312, shoot oh well back on research, tanks for all the help and sry for the troubles i could have caused :)
[22:34] <shelby__> has anyone had this problem?
[22:34] <iforigua> some one knows what configure file for quick launch buttons on hp laptop
[22:34] <Slart> Crashmike: so.. when you feed it the correct values it works.. is that a problem? or did I misunderstand something?
[22:34] <Dillizar> KlrSpz:i cant use my skype i cant use my amsn its saying that it cant access the files
[22:34] <_dbd_l12> keevie: see http://community.activestate.com/forum-topic/configure-warning-cant-fi
[22:35] <KlrSpz> !repeat | Dillizar
[22:35] <Dillizar> sorry
[22:35] <KlrSpz> Dillizar: have you tried restarting alsa?
[22:35] <krugar> trdickson, Thank you trdickson. But those pages don't allow me to provide access Apache with access rights to ~/Projects/gusmao
[22:35] <Dillizar> how KlrSpz
[22:35] <Crashmike> @slart... the problem is: first time it works after feeding with specs and then ne logon...but after restarting the pc it won't work
[22:35] <Crashmike> new logon
[22:35] <Slart> Dillizar: I think /dev/audio and /dev/dsp is used by oss, the older sound system that predates alsa..
[22:36] <keevie> _dbd_l12: thanks
[22:36] <Slart> Crashmike: how do you do the "feeding" ?
[22:36] <KlrSpz> yeah skype uses oss
[22:36] <KlrSpz> iirc
[22:36] <ubuntu> >	I am running ubuntu live i have a broad band internet connection, now i want to download the new ubuntu 8.4 but how do i burn it on to disk when running ubuntu live?
[22:36] <Slart> my skype uses alsa..
[22:36] <KlrSpz> Dillizar: do you have alsa-oss installed?
[22:36] <Dillizar> yeah but i wasn useing it just few days a go and now nada
[22:36] <KlrSpz> Slart: hmm.. been a while since i used it, maybe they now suport alsa
[22:36] <Dillizar> dont know KlrSpz
[22:37] <Slart> it does it badly though.. but it's still using alsa.. but I think I've got a newer version than the one in the repos
 but. . .now i get checking for Tcl configuration... configure: error: /usr/local/ActiveTcl-8.4/lib/ directory doesn't contain tclConfig.sh
[22:37] <keevie> daniel@DANIEL:~/WordNet-3.0$ make
[22:37] <keevie> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[22:37] <ubuntu> Ubuntu live dose not save any of the downloads on to windows xp partions
[22:37] <Crashmike> Slart: I edit the Xorg.conf via kate ;-) and type in the correct monitor specs... then I save the file and make a new logon
[22:37] <dysje> how come wireless is such an issue on linux distros?
[22:38] <ubuntu> Please help anyone?
[22:38] <Tundrayeti312> ubuntu: What version of ubuntu live? You could just install that version and update
[22:38] <Slart> Crashmike: ok.. I'm not sure if just logging out and in will do it.. you might have to restart X.. not sure if just relogging  does that
[22:38] <ubuntu> i think its 7.4
[22:38] <Dillizar> KlrSpz: how can i install asla-oss?
[22:38] <KlrSpz> Dillizar: use aptitude or synaptic
[22:38] <Slart> dysje: because there are no accepted standards.. lots of proprietary stuff.. and noone cares enough about linux to do drivers for it
[22:38] <Crashmike> @slart...ok, you mean a system-restart will help?
[22:38] <Tundrayeti312> ubuntu: otherwise you have to figure out how to save that .iso somewhere
[22:39] <Slart> dysje: hmm.. correctiong there.. none of the manufacturers care about linux.. there are still users though
[22:39] <ubuntu> yea thats what i need help with
[22:39] <ubuntu> but if i save it on the desktop of the live ubuntu how do i burn it
[22:39] <Slart> Crashmike: either a reboot or CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE (it will kill X and restart it for you)
[22:40] <dekkong__> laku: :P
[22:40] <temmer> how do i remove everything *but* something?
[22:40] <BigBoss_> @find
[22:40] <ikonia> temmer: can you give me an example
[22:40] <Crashmike> @slart it's Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3.5...ok... I'lll try it. maybe the support for Belinea Monitors can be better ;-)
[22:40] <Tundrayeti312> ubuntu: any particular reason you have to do this from a live cd?  I doubt that you could save the iso to your desktop, but if you can, you should just be able to burn it like normal
[22:40] <_dbd_l12> keevie: you have installed activetcl (seems like a dependency for wordnet...) ? try "locate activetcl"
[22:40] <Slart> temmer: copy that something to a safe place, nuke everything from orbit, put something back
[22:40] <laku> dekkong__: :-)
[22:40] <BigBoss_> anybody know how to install wine on ubuntu and yellow dog linux
[22:40] <KlrSpz> temmer: i default to Thunar or another file manager; lol...
[22:40] <temmer> if i want to remove everything in a directory except a file called ~test
[22:40] <Crashmike> @slart...thanks for help
[22:40] <temmer> Slart: oh okay
[22:40] <KlrSpz> temmer: or do what Slart said
[22:41] <temmer> i mean a directory
[22:41] <yvan_> what is the directory for insert driver in blacklist??
[22:41] <temmer> you know what i mean
[22:41] <temmer> ;D
[22:41] <Slart> temmer: you could probably do something really complicated with bash.. but I think my way is the easiest
[22:41] <ikonia> temmer: rm -r `ls | grep -v test`
[22:41] <ubuntu> i can save it to my desktop, and the reason why im run it live is because i down have the drivers for the modem install on win xp
[22:41] <keevie> _dbd_l12: locate activetcl runs with no errors and no output
[22:41] <Slart> Crashmike: good luck
[22:41] <KlrSpz> ikonia: heh i have ls aliased to ls -la
[22:41] <yvan_> what is the directory for insert driver in blacklist??
[22:41] <ubuntu> so how do i burn it when running the live ubuntu?
[22:42] <Crashmike> slart: thanks...the prob is at another computer
[22:42] <temmer> ikonia: invalid option -w?
[22:42] <ikonia> -v
[22:42] <ikonia> not w
[22:42] <pellegrino> ciao. come trovo in ubuntu un equivalente del programma printkey ? grazie
[22:42] <x-ip> ikonia, nice nick
[22:42] <Slart> !it | pellegrino
[22:42] <KlrSpz> !english
[22:42] <ikonia> x-ip: ?
[22:42] <ubuntu> anything that i try to install on the live ubuntu the icon never shows up
[22:42] <x-ip> someone want to help the ubuntu project ? :D
[22:42] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:42] <x-ip> raise your hands!
[22:42] <yvan_> what is the directory for insert driver in blacklist??
[22:43] <temmer> ikonia: ya but it says invalid option -w even if v
[22:43] <x-ip> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team/TODO#preview <-- here is a TODO list ! you can help too!
[22:43] <Magnusdude> Hi people, why isnt proftpd compiled with the mod_tls encryption module in Ubuntu ?
[22:43] <temmer> ikonia: its a directory that i want to keep
[22:43] <temmer> ikonia: within a directory
[22:43] <Slart> yvan_: the blacklist file is somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d I think
[22:43] <KlrSpz> yvan_: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:43] <temmer> ikonia: and then all other directories and files but the directory i want should be removed
[22:43] <ubuntu> :(
[22:43] <_dbd_l12> keevie: there is a package in the repositories "sudo apt-cache search wordnet". You can install this with "sudo apt-get install wordnet"? Any specific reason you must compile from source (nightly build or so...) ?
[22:43] <Magnusdude> New release: http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/gadmin-proftpd/gadmin-proftpd-0.3.3.tar.gz
[22:43] <ikonia> temmer: so rm -rf `ls -r | grep -v test`
[22:43] <ubuntu> I've been at this all day
[22:44] <danbh_intrepid> etesla: sorry, I stepped away
[22:44] <KlrSpz> ok back to work, i helped 10 people now; i think i'm good for today
[22:44] <ubuntu> please someone help
[22:44] <ikonia> ubuntu: what's up
[22:44] <keevie> _dbd_l12: really? thanks, will try the files in apt. . .
[22:44] <temmer> ikonia: same :|
[22:44] <dysje> Slart: still strange to see about everything work, even the weirdest things, and only wireless being a problem
[22:44] <temmer> ikonia: okay i replaceed '`' with ''' and it worked
[22:45] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone recommend how to fix a laptop that freezes upon closing the lid, which then needs a reboot- running 8.04, with all Visual Effects to None, Power Management and Screensaver settings are set to Blank Screen....
[22:45] <Stupendoussteve> dysje, wireless is traditionally one of the bigger problems
[22:45] <Slart> Samantha_Goth_Lo: I don't think I ever got your problem.. could you tell us again?
[22:45] <CaptainMorgan> I recall it having to do with the flgrx driver... but I've forgotten how to fix it...... Tundrayeti312 IBM Thinkpad T60, ATI X1300
[22:45] <CaptainMorgan> xorg shows that the "Device" has one line: "Configured Video Driver"
[22:45] <keevie> _dbd_l12: and. . .that worked. silly me, thanks
[22:45] <etesla> danbh_intrepid: No problem. :) I actually found the place in that file that fixed the login screen resolution problem, but I'm still having the flickering/interlacing problem, both during the login and the desktop (but console is fine).
[22:45] <CaptainMorgan> sorry, mistell Tundrayeti312
[22:45] <Tundrayeti312> np
[22:45] <Slart> dysje: not just wireless.. scanners are in a sad state.. software modems too..mobile phones are mostly a mess too
[22:45] <_dbd_l12> keevie: np
[22:45] <temmer> ikonia: okay how about this how to copy a directory
[22:46] <srizz> need help installing ubuntu on my brother laptop
[22:46] <ikonia> cp -R
[22:46] <ikonia> temmer: cp -R
[22:46] <ikonia> srizz: ok, what's the issue
[22:46] <srizz> it keeps getting an error
[22:46] <dysje> Slart: i has no problem with my winmobile device :p - still, ubuntu etc. has bigger issues than hardware unfortunately
[22:46] <danbh_intrepid> etesla: well, Im glad that worked out for you.  I dont know about the flickering.  Ill do a quick search..
[22:47] <temmer> ikonia: thanks
[22:47] <Magnusdude> Seems stupid and dangerous to not use FTP-encryption when its just about adding "--with-modules=mod_tls" but...
[22:47] <SamanthaGothLove> I'm running a live Ubuntu CD & I want to download a the version of Ubuntu 8.4, But how do I burn it to CD ROM? Or How do I save it to my Windows Partition?
[22:47] <srizz> undevd-event [1545]: run_program: ' /sbin/modprobe ' abnormal exit
[22:47] <ikonia> SamanthaGothLove: well, I wouldn't advising saving it to your windows partition if your running an older version of ubuntu
[22:47] <Slart> SamanthaGothLove: do you have some kind of hard drive space where you could put a 600MB file?
[22:47] <ikonia> SamanthaGothLove: download and burn it under windows
[22:47] <levander> Something weird happened when I just unplugged my flash drive. Now, when I plug it back in, it won't mount.  I bet a reboot would make everything work again, but is there anything I can do to like "reset" whatever it is that mounts USB drives?
[22:47] <rokra> Hello
[22:47] <AlNahar> is anyone familiar with the problem with flash player 10 and alsa and lockups?
[22:47] <ikonia> SamanthaGothLove: that is the simple solution
[22:48] <dysje> AlNahar: there's a reason it's beta
[22:48] <srizz> ikonia: any idea?
[22:48] <SamanthaGothLove> Yea I do have space loads of it
[22:48] <AlNahar> dysje: this only started when i switched back to alsa on a particular machine
[22:48] <rokra> I can't login on ma machine because it s freeze ( after passwork, I have no prompt) any ideas?
[22:48] <Slart> AlNahar: I'm familiar with the problem with flash player 10, period =).. I couldn't even get the latest version to start
[22:48] <AlNahar> dysje: i can't even get sound with version 9
[22:49] <SamanthaGothLove> But the download dosen't save on the windows partition it only gets saved on the desktop of ubuntu live
[22:49] <ikonia> srizz: that quite an odd error, that shouldn't stop it booting
[22:49] <Slart> AlNahar: tried installing that .. extra sound library for flash.. can't remember the name
[22:49] <ikonia> SamanthaGothLove: download and burn it in windows
[22:49] <Slart> AlNahar: libflash something I think
[22:49] <ikonia> SamanthaGothLove: don't make it hard
[22:49] <AlNahar> libflashsupprt?
[22:49] <LoneElf> So, how do i configure Xorg via the commandline?
[22:49] <AlNahar> ah, that fixed it!
[22:49] <AlNahar> awesome:)
[22:49] <SamanthaGothLove> I can't get internet going on windows
[22:49] <Slart> SamanthaGothLove: you can change that in the firefox preferences
[22:49] <DubAndy> What apache2 config file do I need to edit to change the web-browser reading myfilename.php to /myfilename?
[22:49] <SamanthaGothLove> :(
[22:49] <Slart> AlNahar: that might be it
[22:49] <ikonia> SamanthaGothLove: save to desktop and burn then
[22:49] <AlNahar> that fixed it
[22:50] <SamanthaGothLove> I know but the download wont start if i try to save it on a windows partition
[22:50] <srizz> ikonia: i boots up to the install option menu, but when you hit install thats happens, it also had a tty error
[22:50] <sweetgum> how can i install the ncurses libraries im trying to compile a kernel?
[22:50] <Slart> SamanthaGothLove: try the minimal install instead of the regular one
[22:50] <ikonia> sweetgum: if you can't install ncurses I suggest you don't try to build custom kernels
[22:50] <Stupendoussteve> SamanthaGothLove, what version is the live cd? You may be able to install it to the HD and upgrade
[22:50] <Slart> !minimal | SamanthaGothLove
[22:50] <SamanthaGothLove> But how can I burn running the live Ubuntu
[22:50] <ikonia> SamanthaGothLove: use gnomebaker
[22:50] <sweetgum> ikonia: could you give me the command?
[22:50] <SamanthaGothLove> its 7.4
[22:50] <Stupendoussteve> And eject the cd?
[22:50] <Slart> !burniso | SamanthaGothLove
[22:51] <ikonia> sweetgum: I advise you not to
[22:51] <sweetgum> ikonia: why's that?
[22:51] <Stupendoussteve> SamanthaGothLove, 7.4 can be upgraded to the current one
[22:51] <Stupendoussteve> if your goal is to have it installed on the hd
[22:51] <SamanthaGothLove> how do i start gnomebaker?
[22:51] <etesla> danbh_intrepid: If it helps, it's like there are pink horizontal dotted lines flickering all over my screen.
[22:51] <ikonia> sweetgum: because you need to understand what your doing
[22:51] <SamanthaGothLove> where from
[22:51] <sweetgum> ikonia: nevermind i figured it out, thanks anyway
[22:51] <SamanthaGothLove> sweet thanks guys
[22:51] <SamanthaGothLove> :X
[22:51] <LoneElf> Anybody know if there is an ncurses program with 8.10 to configure X?
[22:51] <danbh_intrepid> etesla: have you tried upping the refresh rate?
[22:51] <SamanthaGothLove> just one last question
[22:51] <ikonia> LoneElf: join #ubuntu+1 for 8.10 help
[22:51] <Slart> SamanthaGothLove: see.. everything gets easier when you're called Samantha instead of .. whatever your old nick was =)
[22:52] <dysje> i was so close to having my ubuntu laptop perfect, just wireless broken, now that's a big issue on a laptop :p
[22:52] <srizz> ikonia: do you know of any solutions
[22:52] <danbh_intrepid> etesla: it looks like you have a via graphics card, which according to the forums, is not well supported  : (
[22:52] <etesla> danbh_intrepid: The video card is only spec'd to 60Hz - it does the same thing at either 80-something or 60.
[22:52] <amenado> dysje--> which nic card and chip your wifi uses?
[22:52] <ikonia> srizz: I am trying to figure out why you'd get that before working out how to fix it
[22:52] <SamanthaGothLove> If I install the Ubuntu 7.4 on the HDD will it detect my motorola broad band modem automaticly?
[22:53] <ikonia> SamanthaGothLove: probably not
[22:53] <Slart> LoneElf: I've never seen one.. unless you mean the dpkg-reconfigure one
[22:53] <Stupendoussteve> SamanthaGothLove, is it running on the livecd?
[22:53] <SamanthaGothLove> yes
[22:53] <SamanthaGothLove> im on it right now
[22:53] <misteralexander> I have 2 internal HD's on my laptop (Sony Viao).  I want to MOVE my /home directory from one HD (SDA1) to the other . . . any ideas how?
[22:53] <sweetgum> how can i install QT3?
[22:53] <amenado> SamanthaGothLove--> you can save the contents of /etc/network/interfaces for the configs
[22:54] <dysje> amenado: inpro 2220
[22:54] <ikonia> misteralexander: make the partition on the second disk, copy /home across change the /etc/fstab reboot
[22:54] <Slart> misteralexander: create your new home partition.. copy *everything* to the new home.. change in fstab.. reboot
[22:54] <ikonia> sweetgum: same way you install ncurses
[22:54] <SamanthaGothLove> thats one of the good things about running the live cd everything gets detected most of the time
[22:54] <dysje> amenado: or impro2220 or something, let me find the exact name
[22:54] <Miller`> has anyone else had the issue of firefox randomly freezing the whole computer while scrolling?
[22:54] <srizz> ikonia: ok, its a new laptop with vista if that matters
[22:54] <amenado> dysje--> find the chip it uses too
[22:54] <ikonia> srizz: are you trying to use wubi, or boot from the cd
[22:54] <sweetgum> ikonia: i need the library title that's all
[22:54] <ikonia> sweetgum: search
[22:54] <ikonia> sweetgum: the package manager has a solid search function
[22:55] <amenado> sweetgum--> i believe qt3 is the default already
[22:55] <dysje> amenado: i meant the chip, the chip is iprocomm IPN 2220, card is edimax EW-7107PCg
[22:55] <SamanthaGothLove> Thanks and bye guys xoxox
[22:55] <amenado> dysje--> what happens when you attempt to use it?
[22:56] <srizz> ikonia: boot from cd
[22:56] <Doc8404> any ideas... i want to put my 1.8volt ram into a board with the new nehelam processor but it says it maxes at 1.72. but i like my low latency 4-4-4-7 1800mhz ram
[22:56] <ikonia> srizz: ok, so vista's not an issue here
[22:56] <ikonia> Doc8404: this is ubuntu support - not hardware support
[22:56] <ikonia> Doc8404: there are more appropriate channels, but not here please.
[22:57] <dysje> amenado: wireless without encryption works, with WEP too, WPA fails. Also it has some strange quirks, as it won't list networks until i atleast try to connect to one
[22:57] <danbh_intrepid> etesla: well, I can't find a solution for ya.  Sorry.  It might be that there is no solution, except to buy a new graphics card that works better with linux.  Intrepid has a slightly upgraded version of the driver, but I don't know if that will fix anything for you.  So, you might want to give intrepid a try.    You could try the vesa driver, and see how well that works too
[22:57] <srizz> ikonia: ok wasn't sure if they made an anti-linux program lol
[22:57] <Doc8404> im sure though, that thier are plenty of people here with ideas... ive been to hardware and its hit or miss with who u get... im running ubuntu compiz fusion on all my computers so yeah. the computer being upgraded is also ubuntu compiz fusion
[22:58] <ikonia> Doc8404: this is not an appropriate channel
[22:58] <amenado> dysje--> its okay to have non encrypted connectivity to your AP, just make sure your firewall is active
[22:58] <ikonia> Doc8404: it doesn't matter what OS your running, this channel is not for hardware/overclocking discussion, ubuntu support only
[22:58] <etesla> danbh_intrepid: Gotcha. I installed new drivers a couple days ago; it fixed the opposite problem (console flickering/garbled), but caused the X-flickering problem. There's a patch for AGP and DRM; I'm not sure if that's what'll fix it, but if it does, I'll let you know.
[22:58] <danbh_intrepid> etesla: good luck
[22:59] <ikonia>  /whois Doc8404
[22:59] <dysje> amenado: i am not planning on giving the entire world access to my AP/wireless network and i want it encrypted for security reasons
[22:59] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[22:59] <Doc8404> im me... yeah
[22:59] <ikonia> Doc8404: sorry, up arrow on bash
[22:59] <ikonia> that wasn't intended
[23:00] <ikonia> your nick was still in my buffer
[23:00] <amenado> dysje--> as if the entire world is going to access your AP, try mac filtering
[23:00] <woli> is there someway i could use to update my nvidia drivers?
[23:00] <Doc8404> hmmm....
[23:01] <dysje> amenado: spoofing mac address is easy, very easy even
[23:01] <etesla> What's the channel for the next Ubuntu release? #ubuntu+1 ?
[23:01] <ikonia> etesla: correct
[23:01] <srizz> ikonia: i still have no clue, any luck?
[23:01] <etesla> ikonia: Thanks.
[23:01] <dysje> amenado: i use WPA+mac filtering with some other stuff behind it
[23:01] <amenado> dysje--> then make your driver to support WPA
[23:01] <ikonia> srizz: I can't see a senario that would cause that
[23:01] <Doc8404> dysje, what kind of router are you on
[23:02] <srizz> ikonia: me either seeing that its a brand new comp
[23:02] <dysje> Doc8404: Draytek device, but i am also testing with a seperate AP
[23:02] <woli> does somebody have ut2004 installed?
[23:03] <dysje> amenado: it does somewhat support WPA, just not in the normal fashion, all tutorials on the big intarwheb aren't working much, and i am reading a lot about wireless getting really bad in 8.04 compared to 7.10
[23:03] <srizz> ikonia: would trying it in safe graphics mode help
[23:03] <Doc8404> dysje, creat a wep2 password for it. mac address filtering is a bit overkill... but if you want to you can set it up. just make sure you write down everything that is connected to your routers mac address and input them, otherwise you can get locked out. some routers like mine even lock hardwiring if the macadress is locked
[23:03] <ikonia> srizz doubt it, thats nothing to do with udev - but try it
[23:04] <dysje> Doc8404: i'll manage,but WEP/WEP2 (64/128bit) can be cracked within 3 seconds, not quite secure...
[23:04] <Doc8404> dysje, 128bit encryption is not that easy to crack... where people find trouble is broadcasting on wifi... thats easy to get by
[23:04] <dysje> Doc8404: i need to keep my network as secure as possible and without using VPN/RADUIS or LEAP/EAP/etc i am stuck with WPA
[23:05] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone recommend how to fix a laptop that freezes upon closing the lid, which then needs a reboot- running 8.04, with all Visual Effects to None, Power Management and Screensaver settings are set to Blank Screen....
[23:05] <CaptainMorgan> I recall it having to do with the flgrx driver... but I've forgotten how to fix it...... IBM Thinkpad T60, ATI X1300
[23:05] <CaptainMorgan> xorg shows that the "Device" has one line: "Configured Video Driver" and I've tried the ForcePipeA option which didn't work
[23:06] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: xorg is dynamic now, you have to hardcode the xorg.conf file if you want to change things
[23:06] <dysje> Doc8404: it's not just a home network, and i want to switch a few computers over to linux, from XP, and i'm testing, seeing where the problems are, but on a completely wireless network .... having wireless not working is annoying
[23:06] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, sorry, what's your point?
[23:06] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I thought you where saying you didn't know what to do
[23:07] <Doc8404> dysje, ive never seen a huge issue with the wireless. im running wireless n MIMO wpa2 with mac address filtering. and our oldest computer running as a server monitors all in out and blocked. the system has medical computers and software running off linux on them and its never been hit
[23:07] <kansan> what port is ssh usually on?  21?
[23:07] <ikonia> kansan: 22
[23:07] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, with regard to fixing this error I don't know what to do - but telling me to change xorg in a general fashion isn't very helpful either, considering that I just reported that I've changed it
[23:08] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan I didn't see you report that you'd changed it, I thought you where confused as you said it only had on line in it
[23:08] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, please read it a more carefully, I said one line under "Device"
[23:08] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: the way it read was that you didn't understand why it had only one line, which is why I tried to explain
[23:08] <CaptainMorgan> no
[23:08] <dysje> Doc8404: that's WPA2, exactly what i'm trying to get to, to avoid using WEP, but WPA/WPA2 isn't working at all on these systems, and it seems like it won't on 8.10 either and reports on the internet suggest that my card used to work perfectly in 7.10
[23:08] <Doc8404> dysje im running here on mine:)
[23:09] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, it can have as many lines as it wants, - that's not the problem. The problem is trying to fix this driver bug
[23:09] <CaptainMorgan> which in retrospect, has something to do with flgrx
[23:09] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: then contact ati
[23:09] <CaptainMorgan> omg
[23:10] <CaptainMorgan> anyone else want to take a stab?
[23:10] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I've not seen a clear desciption of the issue,
[23:10] <amenado> nope
[23:10] <hal_v2> Okay, so in trying to sync my zune with amarok, I've read it's not possible. But Amarok is recognising that it's a zune, and shows the media list, but doesn't allow me to put music on it. Is there any chance? The fact that it says zune gives me hope.
[23:10] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: only that your xorg file had one line it and you change / added one line under it
[23:10] <Doc8404> dysje check this out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/bcm4318-wireless-failure-upgrading-from-ubuntu-7.10-to-8.04-hardy-heron-641715/
[23:11] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone recommend how to fix a laptop that freezes upon closing the lid, which then requires a reboot- running 8.04, with all Visual Effects to None, Power Management and Screensaver settings are set to Blank Screen....
[23:11] <dysje> Doc8404: i know it's possible, it just isn't working for me and i've really tried a lot
[23:11] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: ahh this has been a known issue with the ati closed source drivers in the past
[23:11] <CaptainMorgan> if the lid is opened, the system freezes
[23:11] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, now how did you miss that?
[23:11] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: it also happened with an nvidia driver ages ago, but that was fixed
[23:11] <dysje> Doc8404:  i can connect to all unsecured networks though, so only WPA isn't working and scanning for networks
[23:11] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I didn't see you post it
[23:12] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, did you just log in?
[23:12] <Doc8404> dysje are you running a broadcom wirless in that laptop
[23:12] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: no
[23:12] <hal_v2> Amarok recognizes Zune, any chance I can actually get the two to work together? I need to know this before I purchase the mp3 player (I have it plugged in right now).
[23:12] <CaptainMorgan> well I've been posting it for the past hour or so
[23:12] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: let me see if I can find the launchpad bug for that, it was a known bug
[23:12] <DCPom> what bash command can you use to get an array of all the files (or file paths) in a folder?
[23:12] <CaptainMorgan> so please try to read more carefully
[23:12] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: drop the attitude please
[23:12] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I am asking you politly to repeat the question
[23:12] <CaptainMorgan> I found quite a few in relation, but if you know the specific one, by all means
[23:13] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, saying please is not an attitude- I would suggest you are the one with the attitude
[23:13] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I don't sit watching everyline, so instead of me reading more carefully, stop the smart answers
[23:13] <amenado> DCPom--> ls and then try to pipe it to where it puts it in an array perhaps?
[23:13] <Mr_Fixit> it seems my eth0 card has dropped can some one help me re-enable it?
[23:13] <amenado> CaptainMorgan--> you are the one needing assistance, lower down your barrier
[23:14] <theom3ga> hi there
[23:14] <DCPom> thanks amenado
[23:14] <amenado> Mr_Fixit-->  sudo "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0"
[23:14] <Doc8404> dysje, whats the wireless device the computer/laptop your trying to use, and whats the make/model number your trying to connect to
[23:15] <Mr_Fixit> thanks amenado
[23:15] <kane77> how do I fix the gpg error with apt-get?
[23:15] <etesla> When you choose the "download only" option, where does Synaptic Package Manager put the downloaded packages?
[23:15] <amenado> Mr_
[23:15] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, not sure what your problem is, but I've posted my issue repeatedly for past hour - and I didn't see you say "politely" to repeat, you assumed I didn't know squat about xorg - which I said I had changed a couple of time in relation to the bug- I've been very clear. What barrier amenado? I posted things in detail, no barrier there
[23:15] <amenado> Mr_Fixit--> whats up?
[23:15] <amenado> CaptainMorgan--> attitude barrier, calm down man
[23:15] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I picked up half the conversation and attempted to help from that, when you corrected me I said I'd not seen the question
[23:15] <theom3ga> I have a problem: When I click at an url at the terminal, it says that there was an error launching the associated command, looks like firefox is not properly set as the default way of opening links. HOW can I set it up? I've already tried update-alternatives with no luck
[23:15] <jrib> kane77: no such thing as "the gpg error", you need to pastebin it for us to help you :)
[23:15] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I wanted to understand the question as I'd clearly missunderstood it
[23:16] <dysje> Doc8404: connecting one IPN2220(chip) to an ASUS AP(WL300G), and one prism54 to the same one, and also tried to connect to a draytek AP
[23:16] <Mr_Fixit> amenado, wlan0 is up
[23:16] <kane77> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m12b24889
[23:16] <Doc8404> dysje so which router is up right now
[23:16] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, that's fine by me, but your interruption was a little unwarranted given that I had posted some information- " I wanted to understand the question as I'd clearly missunderstood it" this should've been stated from the get-go, not an assumption that I don't understand a line in xorg
[23:17] <amenado> Mr_Fixit--> and you want eth0 to be up too? using same router/gateway?
[23:17] <CaptainMorgan> that's all I'm saying
[23:17] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i wanna change my 404 page not found page with custom one ... where does apache load original 404 page not found from ... since in apache2.conf ErrorDocument section is commented out ...
[23:17] <Mr_Fixit> no.. kill the wifi, use the lan
[23:17] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: enough now - I'm sat here searching launchpad for bugs for you - and I'm getting attitude for it,
[23:17] <jrib> kane77: why are you using those repositories?
[23:17] <f|uke> can anyone tell me how to keep a vnc4server session active? I'm hoping to launch azureus so that it does not terminate when I quit vnc
[23:18] <amenado> Mr_Fixit--> sudo "ifdown wlan0; ifup eth0"
[23:18] <kane77> jrib, I like mucommander, and I was trying to install a game from the second one
[23:19] <amenado> f|uke--> i think you have to use x11vnc instead of that vnc4server
[23:19] <zender272> can someone please tell me how to access compiz for the 3d cube within ubuntu eee? installed it but doesnt appear in preferences tab
[23:19] <Mr_Fixit> umm.. says command not found
[23:19] <Doc8404> dysje so im going to consider you to be a very intelligent person... so i will skip some little things. when u click the wireless connect on ur toolbar does it allow you to put in a wpa2 ?
[23:19] <Slart> f|uke: or just use the remote desktop functionality built in
[23:19] <kane77> jrib, there is a command I should run at mucommander site, but for some reason it don't work
[23:19] <amenado> Mr_Fixit--> sudo ifdown wlan0;  sudo ifup eth0
[23:19] <f|uke> can not do that, Slart. The box has no videocard. :) I'll look into that, amenado. Thanks
[23:19] <zender272> can someone please tell me how to access compiz for the 3d cube within ubuntu eee? installed it but doesnt appear in preferences tab
[23:19] <CaptainMorgan> then the bugs you find would be interesting... I've found such like 103127, 43056 and another that suggested that bit about ForcePipeA
[23:19] <kane77> jrib, http://apt.mucommander.com/
[23:19] <jrib> kane77: you need to make sure these repositories are intended for use on the ubuntu version you are using.  For example, using random debian repositories is likely to bork your system.  Have you made sure they are intended for ubuntu?
[23:20] <dysje> Doc8404: both, and both are working with other wireless clients, i'm just trying to connect these as well, when i connnect from ubuntu, it asks me for a WPA key, it clearly sees it to be TKIP but it will throw the same window at me after a minute or so
[23:20] <CaptainMorgan> which didn't work
[23:20] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I'm not progressing this any futher
[23:20] <Tundrayeti312> !repeat > zender272
[23:20] <Slart> f|uke: oh... I think x11vnc requires a running session to work
[23:20] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, then stop talking to me
[23:20] <Slart> f|uke: there might be some kind of keep alive setting in vnc that I don't know about
[23:20] <ikonia> CaptainMorgan: I just did - I said "enough"
[23:20] <losher> fjuke: a normal vnc server session never exits. It should be there just as you left it when you last connected. Note that this is *not* the same as connecting to a remote desktop, which *will* go away when you log out
[23:20] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i wanna change my 404 page not found page with custom one ... where does apache load original 404 page not found from ... since in apache2.conf ErrorDocument section is commented out ...
[23:20] <dysje> Doc8404: that's the normal connect through nm-applet, but manual setup doesn't work either
[23:20] <Mr_Fixit> amenado, thanks.. that did it
[23:21] <kane77> jrib, on the webpage it says it's for ubuntu as well..
[23:21] <Doc8404> dysje so it accepts it, but never fully connects. it lets you through security and then fails after that
[23:21] <CaptainMorgan> ikonia, once again, not being very clear.
[23:21] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone recommend how to fix a laptop that freezes upon closing the lid, which then requires a reboot- running 8.04, with all Visual Effects to None, Power Management and Screensaver settings are set to Blank Screen....
[23:21] <dysje> Doc8404: actually, it connects but doesn't authenticate
[23:21] <f|uke> losher, I'm using vnc4server. There is no real desktop, only virtual. Quitting and resuming results in a fresh interface
[23:21] <jrib> kane77: yes, I see that for mucommander.  Not for the other one.  You need "sudo apt-key" instead of just "apt-key"
[23:21] <theom3ga> I have a problem: When I click at an url at the terminal, it says that there was an error launching the associated command, looks like firefox is not properly set as the default way of opening links. HOW can I set it up? I've already tried update-alternatives with no luck
[23:21] <theom3ga> anyone please?
[23:22] <jarco> what is best policy for a small nameserver fo only a few domains? Write them in named.conf or just make seperate conf files for them and include them?
[23:22] <CaptainMorgan> which in retrospect, has something to do with flgrx
[23:22] <Doc8404> dysje ok so a known password works on the other operating systems just not the ubuntu. im on the same page as you correct
[23:22] <docmur> whats the current ubuntu release by name for my apt/sources.list
[23:22] <ikonia> jarco: use a 3rd party dns server, you need 2 dns servers to host zones properly
[23:22] <dysje> Doc8404: even work on a nintendo wii :p
[23:22] <ikonia> jarco: unless you have 2 static name servers available
[23:22] <CaptainMorgan> xorg shows that the "Device" has one line: "Configured Video Driver" and I've tried the ForcePipeA option which didn't work
[23:22] <logivision> losher: it works!
[23:22] <jrib> docmur: it's the release you have installed
[23:22] <jrib> !version | docmur
[23:22] <jarco> ikonia: i use bind i just ment the config files
[23:23] <docmur> your a retard
[23:23] <logivision> losher: only problem now is that I'm getting some "new restricted drivers in use" in the top right task bar... just ignore that?
[23:23] <dysje> Doc8404: also 2 vista clients and 4 XP clients atm work with it flawlessly, previously on the same devices XP worked nicely with WPA etc. now.. in ubuntu, WPA won't work
[23:23] <jarco> its to learn that i use it
[23:23] <f|uke> "you're"
[23:23] <Dimensions> docmur:  cat /etc/apt/sources.lst also shows that
[23:23] <losher> logivision: amazing!
[23:23] <kane77> jrib, my connection is really lagging, so I will probably go, thank you for your help
[23:23] <logivision> losher: i know it's exciting
[23:23] <Doc8404> dysje are you 32 or 64 bit
[23:23] <etesla> Apologies for the repeat, but: does anyone know where the Synaptic package manager drops files when you choose the download only option?
[23:23] <dysje> Doc8404: 32
[23:23] <jrib> kane77: no problem
[23:24] <noodlesgc> etesla /var/cache/apt/archives
[23:24] <Slart> etesla: I think there's a cache somewhere.. I'd guess somewhere in the /var tree
[23:24] <etesla> noodlesgc: Hey, thanks.
[23:24] <logivision> losher: any idea bout the new restrected driver thing though.. just ignore it ??
[23:24] <Slart> etesla: sorry I can't be more specific
[23:24] <deathtech> Hey Guys! Using bash as a shell with bashishtheme installed cause im a console junky :p and i installed "fortune" (once again, nerd) however, im unsure of where to put the information to have it laucnch each time i pop open a terminal (or ssh in for that matter)
[23:24] <losher> logivision: google says the warning goes away after reboot :-)
[23:24] <dysje> Doc8404: the issue seems to be that wpa_supplement isn't getting the wireless card(through ndiswrapper) to communicate the WPA keys to the AP
[23:24] <etesla> Slart: No problem, noodlesgc got it, and I appreciate it anyway. :)
[23:24] <logivision> losher: after a second reboot?
[23:24] <noodlesgc> deathtech ~/.bashrc
[23:24] <ikonia> deathtech: .bash_profile or .bashrc
[23:25] <deathtech> see i looked and couldnt seem to find that file, lemme dbl check brb
[23:25] <logivision> losher: i'll give it a try :)
[23:25] <losher> logivision: supposedly, but I'm only guessing...
[23:25] <kane77> jrib, and you were right, it was missing sudo before apt-key.. I would have not guessed that from the error message I got
[23:25] <deathtech> <-- idiot, thanks guys :p
[23:26] <Doc8404> dysje whats it do if u do this sudo ifup wlan0
[23:26] <Trinithis> anyone know a program that can convert an mp3 to a video format?
[23:26] <Azlx> how can i get the files from my windows to ubuntut?
[23:27] <DubAndy> Trinithis: What do you mean by video format? The mp3 doesn't have any video on it?
[23:27] <Trinithis> azlx: ntfs configuration tool
[23:27] <zender272> can someone please tell me how to access compiz for the 3d cube within ubuntu eee? installed it but doesnt appear in preferences tab
[23:27] <Trinithis> DubAndy: I just want a black video with the audio in the background
[23:27] <losher> fjuke: I think that's by design for vnc4server.
[23:27] <Slart> Azlx: your windows drives should be available in ubuntu if you're dual-booting
[23:27] <dysje> Azlx: install ntfs-3g and get them from the drives through ubuntu, use an USB drive, burn a CD, copy over network, all depending on your situation
[23:28] <Azlx> ok.
[23:28] <bastid_raZor> !ccsm > zender272
[23:28] <Doc8404> dysje did you try it?
[23:28] <CaptainMorgan> !flgrx
[23:28] <CaptainMorgan> !ati
[23:28] <dysje> Doc8404: was rebooting the system, typing now
[23:28] <Doc8404> oh ok lol
[23:29] <Noobunt> is there any advantage to actual dual booting as opposed to wubi?
[23:29] <losher> fjuke: Try just: vncserver :2      (adjust number as needed)
[23:29] <dysje> Doc8404: it says it's ignoring unknown interface
[23:29] <CaptainMorgan> !troll
[23:29] <Doc8404> then its working fine...
[23:29] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[23:29] <losher> fjuke: the connect using vncviewer :2
[23:29] <losher> fjuke: *then* connect using vncviewer :2
[23:29] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know anything about flgrx and its potential bugs?
[23:29] <dysje> Doc8404: i know, because it works perfectly when not using WPA(2)\
[23:30] <Doc8404> lol dysje, have you looked into this http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[23:30] <jrib> CaptainMorgan: you have to be a lot more specific unless you just want a link to bugs.ubuntu.com
[23:30] <buck_work> I have a strange issue to fix. The user of one of the linux boxes here decided to compile and install some packages from source tarballs instead of the repository prebuilt packages. It is possible that this didn't cause the issue, but after this, now all text in Gnome except for the terminal font and the panel menus appear as squares instead of letters. I've tried reinstalling the packages that I can find that he overwrote, but no luck. Any ideas? ;_;
[23:30] <dysje> Doc8404: on another location i use an open network with VPN security, and that works perfectly
[23:30] <Azlx> is that the ntfs configuration tool?
[23:30] <CaptainMorgan> jrib, -> can anyone recommend how to fix a laptop that freezes upon closing the lid, which then requires a reboot- running 8.04, with all Visual Effects to None, Power Management and Screensaver settings are set to Blank Screen....
[23:30] <CaptainMorgan> xorg shows that the "Device" has one line: "Configured Video Driver" and I've tried the ForcePipeA option which didn't work
[23:30] <Noobunt> is there any advantage to actual dual booting as opposed to wubi??
[23:31] <CaptainMorgan> tried some research on the bugs already reported... hence the ForcedPipeA... but no avail
[23:31] <noodlesgc> Noobunt not really, it will be easier to switch permanently if you partition.
[23:31] <Doc8404> dysje i know some people who use http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ and it connects and helps them manage better than what comes in ubuntu 8.04
[23:32] <Noobunt> i want to tri boot ubuntu, sabayon and ubuntu. I have the Wubi already, when i tri boot and install grub, will i be able to select ubuntu or will i have to reinstall on a seperate partition?
[23:32] <Noobunt> i mean ubuntu, windows and sabayon
[23:33] <noodlesgc> Noobunt I'm pretty sure you will still be able to select ubuntu
[23:33] <Noobunt> noodlesgc, i was wonderin because the loader for ubuntu in wubi is grub4dos, but ill be getting rid of the bootloader permanently and installing grub
[23:34] <noodlesgc> Noobunt oh, I didn't know it used grub4dos, Im not sure what will happen
[23:34] <ka> hello! I'm trying to install a font to the user dir, and the fonts aren't showing up in GNOME.. I'm looking for troubleshooting tips (e.g. any error messages?)
[23:34] <dysje> Doc8404: I kind of thought wcid did what manual config did, but i'll try it anyway
[23:34] <sqawerlz> Ubuntu's built in wireless manager sucks! Can anyone tell me if there is anything better?
[23:35] <ka> I've tried running fc-cache and it doesn't recognize the new fonts (PCF fwiw)
[23:35] <noodlesgc> sqawerlz try wicd
[23:35] <Noobunt> meh, i just isntalled via wubi today, not much loss if i have to reinstall on an actual partition
[23:35] <kitche> sqawerlz: or just use iwconfig directly
[23:35] <Plz> sqawerlz: the new one in 8.10 is better :D
[23:35] <jjulian> hi can somebody tell me why i dont get the grub list after installing, but get a grub shell?
[23:35] <Plz> updated to 0.7
[23:35] <sqawerlz> iwconfig terminal?
[23:35] <sqawerlz> Im not getting 8.10 unless it is out of beta
[23:36] <shiiizoon> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 BETA in my notebook. The wireless driver "wl" not support "monitor mode"? I am trying to use Kismet, but don't work!
[23:36] <jlong> Hmm my bank of America online account is showing some kind of error
[23:36] <sqawerlz> can you take a SS of the new one?
[23:36] <sqawerlz> i have problems connecting to some WPA networks
[23:36] <noodlesgc> shiiizoon ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:36] <Doc8404> dysje no its a little different
[23:36] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[23:36] <shiiizoon> noodlesgc okay, thanks
[23:36] <wib> will the flash sound problem be fixed in intrepid?
[23:36] <MachinTrucChose> anyone know of a program that can check movie files for errors? I have old discs lying around with xvid movies, and some of them have chopping/loss. I need a way to check them without watching the movie :)
[23:37] <kitche> wib: if intrepid doesn't use pulseaudio most likely
[23:37] <noodlesgc> wib find the launchpad bug report for your issue and check the status
[23:37] <Plz> 8.10 use pulseaudio.
[23:37] <wib> :(
[23:37] <crimsun> wib: they're already fixed.
[23:38] <crimsun> wib: we uploaded the last bits yesterday.
[23:38] <sqawerlz> Ubuntu 8.04 LTS anyone have problems connecting to some WPA netowkrs?
[23:38] <Plz> But the flashplayer in 8.10 is much better :D
[23:38] <Pici> !8.10
[23:38] <wib> crimsun: what do i have to do?
[23:38] <crimsun> wib: and by "fixed", I mean sound works on both 32- and 64-bit installs.
[23:38] <zender> ok i did something very BAD.. i read on a forum that in order to get desktop effects on ubuntu eee i have to disable the MENU. and so si unchecked the UME LAUNCHER from SESSIONS and now i can't access the menu if i press the leftup button.. actually nothing happens.. and im left with an empty desktop
[23:38] <crimsun> wib: well, you need to be running current 8.10 for starters
[23:39] <breize> sqawerlz, it's a common problem with lots of wireless cards due to driver issues
[23:39] <wib> crimsun: ah ok, so in 3 weeks when i install 8.10 i can hope for this to run smoothly? yey
[23:39] <kenois> synergy is just... amazing
[23:39] <kenois> best application i've tried in years
[23:40] <Plz> kenois: What does it do?
[23:40] <sqawerlz> brieze what do i do?
[23:40] <kenois> it allows you to use your keyboard and mouse on multiple computers very easily
[23:40] <shocm> I use synergy between my Mac, Winblows XP, and Ubuntu box every day
[23:41] <dysje> Doc8404: i am working on it, thanks for your help so far
[23:41] <shocm> I love it
[23:41] <ziad> hi
[23:41] <kenois> it's fanastic, i didn't even know it existed until a few hours ago
[23:41] <ziad> i want to install ADSL SAGEM 800  to ubuntu ?
[23:42] <shocm> kenois: there are a couple things out there that does the same thing by Synergy is by far the best if you use different platforms
[23:42] <jjulian> hi can somebody tell me why i dont get the grub list after installing, but get a grub shell?
[23:42] <logivision> I need to print to a com port. Is that possible?
[23:42] <zender> ok i did something very BAD.. i read on a forum that in order to get desktop effects on ubuntu eee i have to disable the MENU. and so si unchecked the UME LAUNCHER from SESSIONS and now i can't access the menu if i press the leftup button.. actually nothing happens.. and im left with an empty desktop. how do i go back to SESSIONS
[23:42] <kenois> well i only run GNU/Linux on my computers, what are the advantages of the other solutions shocm ?
[23:42] <harveyd> is there an easy way to emulate a job running as a cron job
[23:42] <cyban> Forgot where to enable my desktop monitor, im on a laptop and the extra monitor plugged in isnt workin
[23:42] <Doc8404> dysje the only way to learn in linux is from each other lol
[23:42] <harveyd> trying to debug a script which works fine when ran, but not as cron
[23:43] <dysje> Doc8404: thats true :p
[23:43] <harveyd> and editing crontab every few minutes is annoying
[23:43] <logivision> losher: you still here? help 2.0?
[23:43] <logivision> losher: lol
[23:43] <dysje> Doc8404: that also seems to be a weakness somehow
[23:43] <losher> logivision: I'm here, what's up?
[23:43] <Plz> Anyone here using Linuxdc?
[23:44] <shocm> kenios: None really I saw. There is one specific for Macs 'transmit I think' but they all do the same thing
[23:44] <Plz> or another dc++ client?
[23:44] <logivision> losher: The program we use prints without a print driver, it's all built into the program (which I'm running with wine) and it just sends the text to the com port.. Would this be possible in Linux ?
[23:44] <ziad> i want install ADSL SAGEM 800 to ubuntu ?
[23:44] <st23am> has anyone else had trouble installing Oracle 10g in Ubuntu because of "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
[23:44] <shocm> kenios: only issue I run into is clipboard goes weird on my sometimes
[23:44] <kitche> st23am: are you using Sun java?
[23:45] <Doc8404> dysje i see it as a strength.. look at how much money isnt spent... yeah you spend time but you also learn too. look at how much more you can do in linux. look how personal you can make it, and its honostly safer than windows by far
[23:45] <st23am> I believe so
[23:45] <shocm> kenios: either it wont carry over or it flat out wont work on one system
[23:45] <st23am> kitche: I believe so I will check
[23:45] <AussieGuy> I want vim, but the full vim, not the smaller one installed in ubuntu-server by default. when I apt-get install vim-full , it trys to download X, and I dont want X
[23:45] <shocm> kenios: using Ubuntu 8.10 and I seem to have a problem with it crashing on my which is a new problem
[23:45] <losher> logivision: I don't see why not. That's kind of how printers used to work before usb and parallel ports.
[23:46] <R0b0t1> I'm having problems with flash movies stopping every 4 or 5 seconds. Reinstalling flash doesn't help/
[23:46] <logivision> losher: nevermind. it works! it was a problem with the print buffer already being full before
[23:46] <logivision> losher:  :)
[23:46] <shocm> kenios: let me know if you are interested and I can point you to a link to auto start synergy on Ubuntu
[23:46] <AussieGuy> ive had a look at apt-cache search vim and im not sure which package has the full vim but no x11
[23:46] <logivision> losher: so far this is looking great!
[23:46] <losher> logivision: so the touch stuff all works!
[23:46] <cyban> What do I need to install to allow me to configure my second monitor plugged into my Laptop?
[23:46] <R0b0t1> AussieGuy: Something like vim-full or vim-complete
[23:46] <kenois> shocm, got that running already man, but thank you :)
[23:47] <jrib> AussieGuy: vim-nox
[23:47] <shocm> kenois: np
[23:47] <nonewmsgs> how can i tell a livecd from an alternate cd without booting with it?
[23:47] <AussieGuy> ill try vim-nox
[23:47] <deathtech> Hey guys, i have downloaded an application (Maniadrive) and it shows two files in the directory, start.sh and init.sh , i tried a sudo sh start.sh, but it only returns the error that it couldnt change to some directory, im doing it wrong! lol help ?
[23:47] <kenois> shocm, another nice feature would be to be able to move actual applications across computers, seamlessly
[23:47] <shocm> kenois, yeah that's a little different scenerio :-)
[23:47] <jrib> nonewmsgs: md5sum
[23:47] <logivision> losher: it sure does!
[23:47] <st23am> kitche: looks like I mighthave the java from Ubuntu's repo
[23:48] <logivision> losher: is it possible to load to the desktop without having to type in a user?
[23:48] <Doc8404> kenois your talking about an architecture that does exist... but its incredibly hard to use... mounting two motherboards into the same system allows it but yeah
[23:48] <dysje> Doc8404: the personalisation is good for some, but many don't care, they just want to turn on their computer and make it work, like a microwave. the group with those demands is extremely large. Making things too complex might be a great thing for some, but a problem  for others. Even windows drops the ball there and osx is trying to get close, but is limiting other parts of the system while doing so. on the other hand,i meant something else,
[23:48] <dysje> because of the freedom in programming, standards are sometimes difficult to find and people write programs towards their own view. make others adjust themselves to the programmers view, instead of the other way around. This might be a non-issue for those that like tweaking systems, but for others it's a nightmare to relearn programs. Although it's not such a problem in say, configfiles location, it does reflect on the GUI and required knowledge of
[23:48] <dysje> CLI.
[23:48] <kenois> shocm, absolutely :)
[23:49] <kenois> Doc8404, really? where can i read up on it ?
[23:49] <greedyb> so its been a while since I used ubuntu but it seems like flash has gotten worse, am I right?
[23:49] <R0b0t1> I'm having problems with flash viedeos and other web based media. They seem to stop every 3 seconds.
[23:49] <dysje> makes a hostile environment for newcomers
[23:49] <kenois> greedyb, flash has always been fucking horrible imo
[23:49] <Doc8404> kenois i believe its called the beowolf project if im not mistaken
[23:49] <Pici> kenois: No need for the profanity here.
[23:49] <greedyb> kenois, I remember using it and firefox not crash every other session.. now it seems like it crashs ALOT :(
[23:49] <losher> logivision: I think there is an autologin feature if that's what you mean. Google "gnome autologin"
[23:49] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have success with flgrx ? maybe I should remove it...
[23:50] <Zach_Wierzenski> Hey guys, anyone want to assit a helpless person who has been sitting in front of his computer for four hours trying to get wireless internet to work on his Dell E1505 machine?
[23:50] <nonewmsgs> d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
[23:50] <logivision> losher: thanks. also, how do i get a program to startup?
[23:50] <Doc8404> dysje thats true, and thankfully more than one prog exists for each thing
[23:50] <kenois> Pici, i am just flushing out some latent hatred against adobe's flash solution :) i apoligize
[23:50] <jrib> !md5sum | nonewmsgs
[23:50] <deathtech> Hey guys, i have downloaded an application (Maniadrive) and it shows two files in the directory, start.sh and init.sh , i tried a sudo sh start.sh, but it only returns the error that it couldnt change to some directory, im doing it wrong! lol help ?
[23:51] <kenois> greedyb, supposedly the new flash beta is supposed to run better, you might want to try it out and see if it can help you
[23:51] <LimCore> hi
[23:51] <LimCore> what are the tools to get into the topic of wifi
[23:51] <DigitalFiz> kenois, where  can the flash beta be snagged?
[23:51] <LimCore> debug it, scan, etc etc
[23:51] <logivision> losher: so i'm using gnome not kde ?
[23:51] <shingen> is there a simple to use daemon or tool that would allow me to specific SSH tunnels to redirect traffic to?  I'd like to specify different SSH tunnels based upon domain name
[23:52] <Doc8404> LimCore wifi is incredibly unsecure. a simple program you can sit in starbucks and read everyones ims, emails, and see what photos they are looking at
[23:52] <AussieGuy> looks like the full vim to me, :syntax on works so thanks
[23:52] <kenois> DigitalFiz, it is available on adobe's web site
[23:52] <kevin7kal> shingen: yes
[23:52] <DigitalFiz> ty kenois
[23:52] <LimCore> Doc8404: not with WAP2, and not if Im on https. that was not my quetion however
[23:52] <shingen> kevin7kal: and the name of the app? :)
[23:52] <kenois> DigitalFiz, here is a direct link: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[23:53] <Zach_Wierzenski> Anyone here have any advice on how to get wireless internet to wrok?
[23:53] <dysje> Doc8404: luckily yes, and i like ubuntu and linux in general now that i've learned to use it etc. but it does have a few weaknesses and i also had to learn about the many different programs and the difference between KDE/Gnome/XFCE and the likes, regarding libs  etc.
[23:53] <Pici> !wifi
[23:53] <losher> logivision: *You're* supposed to tell *me* that. run "ps ax|egrep dm"  and see if you're running gdm or kdm
[23:53] <kevin7kal> shingen: he-he, that's always the tricky part, isn't it...remembering the name :-)
[23:53] <kevin7kal> shingen: gtunnel or something like that
[23:53] <Oli``> I've just partioned up a disk and I'm trying to get the UUID but the new partitions aren't in/dev/disk/by-uuid/ -- is there a way to refresh the UUIDs available?
[23:54] <DigitalFiz> kenois, the tar right? or the rpm?
[23:54] <shingen> kevin7kal: well, I'm already using tsocks, but that's for commandline only... I'd like something that replaces the default gnome proxy command with something more configurable and robust
[23:54] <Doc8404> dysje yes but its better that way. at least that way when a program goes down its not oh crap my computers totaled. its hmmm... which line is broken
[23:54] <kenois> DigitalFiz, i recommend getting the tar, there is a precompiled binary there (the .so) file, just move it to the appropriate directory and restart firefox
[23:54] <CaptainMorgan> k... got confirmation that flgrx isn't even installed... so it must be running open source Radeon
[23:55] <DigitalFiz> kenois, ty again
[23:55] <kenois> np
[23:55] <kevin7kal> shingen: there's one I was just using
[23:55] <shingen> kevin7kal: I do see an ssh tunnel manager for gnome by the name of gtunnel, I'll read up on it... thanks for the start
[23:55] <shingen> kevin7kal: if you have another one, I'll try that too :)
[23:55] <kevin7kal> shingen: I think that's the one
[23:55] <DigitalFiz> kenois, thats right flash is closed source so its all precompiled
[23:56] <blak> !BT3
[23:56] <shingen> gtunnel looks like a daemon to start ssh tunnels... don't need that.. actually need a robust replacement for the gnome network proxy, that will allow me to specify multiple SOCKS proxies based upon domain name
[23:57] <dysje> Doc8404: it definately is better, yes
[23:57] <greedyb> kenois, where could I find the beta w/ instructions?  I'm googling but I see nothing thats up to date
[23:57] <kevin7kal> shingen: gstm ?
[23:57] <nickelpat> I need some help, I can't get WINE to run any Windows apps correctly. I'm running an Intel chipset, 915 graphics card and a Celeron 1.6gHZ processor.
[23:58] <Doc8404> nickelpat mine never worked for anything
[23:58] <greedyb> Does anyone know where I could find the Flash Beta?
[23:58] <LimCore> xdieeeeeeee
[23:58]  * LimCore murders his ubuntu with a rake
[23:58] <Doc8404> greedy try adobes website
[23:59] <LimCore> is it just me, or recently ubuntu waits 15-60 second before shuitting down (before closing desktop) ... wth
[23:59] <kevin7kal> shingen: yes, gstm is what I was thinking.   I think it even saves the passwords in your key ring
[23:59] <shingen> kevin7kal: k, I'll look at that too
[23:59] <shingen> kevin7kal: thanks


[18:39] <zulax> hi, i cant get output for my guitar
[18:39] <zulax> its plugged in but i get to sound thru speaker
[18:40] <holstein> hey zulax
[18:40] <holstein> are you using JACK ?
[18:40] <zulax> i have it installed
[18:40] <zulax> and also rakarrack
[18:41] <zulax> holstein, did u mean JACK control?
[18:41] <holstein> are you using JACK ?
[18:41] <holstein> in general?
[18:42] <zulax> no idea
[18:42] <zulax> i installed rakarrack
[18:42] <zulax> and it installed JACK control
[18:42] <zulax> thats all i know
[18:42] <zulax> i will go ahead and install jack
[18:43] <holstein> you should have it
[18:44] <zulax> ok, got it
[18:44] <holstein> sweet
[18:45] <holstein> start jack control
[18:45] <zulax> ok
[18:45] <holstein> what sound device?
[18:46] <zulax> should that be in the small window that opens with jack control?
[18:46] <holstein> yup
[18:47] <holstein> wait
[18:47] <zulax> dont see anything like that there though
[18:47] <holstein> what sound inteface are youusing?
[18:47] <zulax> default
[18:47] <zulax> is there
[18:47] <zulax> but there is a dropdown list
[18:49] <zulax> all is set to default
[18:50] <holstein> default is cool
[18:50] <holstein> internal sound card?
[18:50] <holstein> USB ?
[18:51] <zulax> internal sound card
[18:51] <zulax> not sure if its usb or not
[18:51] <holstein> yeah?
[18:51] <holstein> you didnt add a USB sound device right?
[18:52] <zulax> not that i know of
[18:52] <holstein> in jack control
[18:52] <holstein> hit start
[18:52] <holstein> and see what happens
[18:52] <zulax> dont hear anything
[18:52] <holstein> yeah
[18:52] <zulax> it says started though
[18:52] <holstein> OK
[18:52] <zulax> and the RT is changing
[18:52] <holstein> hit the 'connect'
[18:52] <holstein> connections
[18:53] <zulax> that opened a new window
[18:53] <holstein> yup
[18:53] <holstein> under 'audio'
[18:53] <holstein> you'll see 2 columns
[18:53] <holstein> with entries
[18:53] <zulax> yes
[18:53] <holstein> hit the little "+" signs
[18:53] <holstein> to expand
[18:53] <zulax> oh wow!
[18:53] <zulax> i got it!
[18:53] <holstein> on the left are your inputs
[18:54] <zulax> yeah!!!!!
[18:54] <holstein> and the right are your outputs
[18:54] <zulax> that worked,
[18:54] <holstein> when you laung rakarrack
[18:54] <zulax> holstein, u made my day!
[18:54] <holstein> you route your signal through it :)
[18:54] <holstein> zulax: back at 'setup'
[18:54] <holstein> in the main jack window
[18:54] <zulax> should i disconnect the capture?
[18:54] <holstein> there are only a couple things you need to tweak
[18:54] <holstein> IF you need to tweak
[18:55] <holstein> frames/period
[18:55] <holstein> and periods/buffer
[18:56] <holstein> the other settings should be FINE
[18:56] <holstein> those are the ones we generally tweak when we talk about 'latency'
[18:56] <holstein> if you play your guitar
[18:56] <holstein> and you hear it a few miliseconds late
[18:56] <holstein> you can tweak these settings
[18:56] <zulax> is there a best value for those or do they depend on system
[18:56] <holstein> yeah
[18:56] <holstein> its up to your hardware
[18:56] <zulax> for now, i hear it pretty good
[18:57] <zulax> fast enough
[18:57] <holstein> COOL
[18:57] <holstein> if it aint broke :)
[18:58] <zulax> so, this works now
[18:58] <holstein> :)
[18:58] <zulax> how about rakarrack
[18:58] <holstein> check out #opensourcemusicians
[18:59] <holstein> you just open ANY app that supports JACK
[18:59] <holstein> and you can route it however you need in JACK
[18:59] <holstein> under 'connect'
[19:00] <zulax> wow
[19:00] <zulax> this is cool
[19:00] <zulax> finally can play my guitar on linux now
[19:02] <zulax> holstein, will my damage my pc/soundcard/speaker fast by using effect on computer?
[19:04] <holstein> maybe
[19:04] <holstein> if you push them to hard
[19:04] <holstein> start low
[19:04] <holstein> with levels


[11:02] <dholbach> hiya
[11:02] <dholbach> does this team have a mailing list?
[11:03] <dholbach> I'm asking because Bjoern Michaelsen asked me about https://plus.google.com/u/0/101094190333184858950/posts/ANt6rhYcsC3
[11:26] <thorwil> dholbach: no
[11:29] <thorwil> dholbach: the unity-design list could have been a match, at least back when it was known as ayatana. (now it suggests a narrower scope)
[11:51] <dholbach> hum, ok :/


[00:00] <hggdh>  all: EeeBotu is back. Thank you for the patience.
[00:02] <crimsun_> thanks
[04:06] <trinikrono> hey bugs should this be marked fix commited?
[04:06] <trinikrono> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gparted/+bug/471295
[04:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 471295 in gparted (Ubuntu) "Gparted does not start (affects: 3) (heat: 22)" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[04:11] <micahg> trinikrono: no
[04:12] <trinikrono> i had a feeling though, should it be invalid then?
[04:13] <micahg> trinikrono: idk what global menu is
[04:14] <micahg> trinikrono: if it's in archive then it should probably be changed to that package otherwise invalid
[04:19] <trinikrono> okie a next one, should this be wishlist bug 356285
[04:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 356285 in gparted (Ubuntu) "Gparted window does not fit on 1024x600 screen (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/356285
[04:22] <micahg> trinikrono: k, can you verify if it's still valid?
[04:22] <ddecator> dang, micahg beat me to it :p
[04:22] <micahg> ddecator: you're busy making a patch :)
[04:23] <ddecator> micahg: haha, well it's test building now :)
[04:26] <trinikrono> micahg: you sure move fast dont you lol
[04:27] <micahg> trinikrono: what do you mean?
[04:27] <ddecator> trinikrono: comes with practice :)
[04:27] <trinikrono> i just asked the reporter to try on lucid
[04:27] <trinikrono> and i see you put it wishlist already
[04:27] <micahg> trinikrono: yeah, that's the easy part :)
[04:31] <ddecator> importance is usually easy, it's getting it ready to be marked triaged that requires the most work
[04:31] <micahg> !responses | trinikrono
[04:31] <ubot2> trinikrono: response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[04:32] <ddecator> i really should learn what factoids are available
[04:32] <micahg> !factoids
[04:32] <ubot2> Hi! I'm #ubuntu-bugs's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[04:32] <micahg> ugh
[04:32] <micahg> ddecator: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Factoids
[04:32] <ddecator> haha, thanks micahg, i tried to find something like that before
[04:32] <micahg> ddecator: nigelb and I made it on Sunday (he posted)
[04:33] <ddecator> micahg: ah, that's why i couldn't find it. thanks for the work :)
[04:33] <ddecator> and you as well nigelb
[04:34] <micahg> trinikrono: either this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Needing%20testing%20in%20the%20development%20release or this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Old%20untouched%20bugs would have been better
[04:35] <trinikrono> aha
[04:36] <trinikrono> i tend to hunt the older bugs
[04:36] <trinikrono> so ill keep that one
[04:37] <micahg> trinikrono: then it's a good idea to remember/bookmark those responses :)
[04:37] <ddecator> trinikrono: and the firefox addon lets you save them for easy use :)
[04:38] <micahg> trinikrono: https://launchpad.net/~gm-dev-launchpad/+archive/ppa
[04:38] <ddecator> thanks micahg, it takes a minute just for FF to open for me atm...
[04:38] <trinikrono> hold it a little
[04:38] <trinikrono> im not home
[04:38] <trinikrono> im by my parents
[04:38] <ddecator> trinikrono: a lot of us use that addon, so we can give you the link again later :)
[04:39] <micahg> trinikrono: the conversations are logged on irclogs.ubuntu.com, so you can look it up later
[04:39] <ddecator> or that too
[04:39] <trinikrono> ok will go
[04:45] <trinikrono> goodnight all ima head in
[04:46] <ddecator> g'night trinikrono
[04:51] <nigelbabu> did we talk last meeting about the "I want to join" mails?
[04:51] <nigelbabu> I have a vague feeling that we talked about it
[04:52] <ddecator> not sure if the meeting i was at was the last one...
[04:53] <ddecator> nigelbabu: what about it?
[04:53] <nigelbabu> well, if I remembered, I wouldn't be asking would I :p
[04:53] <nigelbabu> haha, I forgot what we talked about
[04:54] <nigelbabu> I vaguely remember some alternative to mailing to the mailing list
[04:54]  * nigelbabu pokes hggdh
[04:55] <ddecator> nigelbabu: didn't know if it was just bugging you or something :p
[04:57] <nigelbabu> ddecator: nah, I was just kidding
[04:57] <ddecator> nigelbabu: haha, ok, i was gonna say, i haven't gotten one of those emails in days..
[04:58] <nigelbabu> I'm just responding to someone talking about it on the list
[06:23] <ddecator> vish: btw, austin emailed me and his computer crashed and he won't be able to finish building a new one for quite a while, so he can't be a mentee for now, he may re-apply later
[07:09] <nigelbabu> oh yay, skype in the repos has some trouble
[07:09] <nigelbabu> binary file corrupted :/
[07:37] <drew212> ddecator hey mentor! =P
[07:59] <drew212> ddecator: are you around?
[08:02] <drew212> anyone around for a quick question?
[08:15] <nigelbabu> ddecator: ask away
[08:15] <nigelbabu> aarg
[08:15] <nigelbabu> drew212: ask away
[08:16] <drew212> nigelbabu: is it ok to ask someone to update from a current version of ubuntu to a development version to test the bug, such as the "old untouched bugs" response suggests?
[08:18] <drew212> also, are you a part of bug control? there is a bug i can confirm that should be triaged...
[08:21] <nigelbabu> Its okay to ask them, but whether they do it is entirely their descretion
[08:21] <nigelbabu> bug number for setting to triaged?
[08:22] <drew212> nigelbabu did you get that?
[08:22] <drew212> nevermind =P
[08:22] <drew212> bug 594387
[08:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 594387 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Default Dictionary on US locale uses UK dictionary (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/594387
[08:22] <drew212> low importance
[08:23] <drew212> but the package needs to be changed
[08:23] <nigelbabu> well, why do you think it can be set to triaged?
[08:24] <drew212> i just noticed it doesnt have the correct package =X, so it cant
[08:25] <nigelbabu> hehe. ok :)
[08:26] <drew212> ok, so how would be the best way to figure out what contorls spell check?
[08:26] <drew212> how would = what would* =D
[08:27] <nigelbabu> I'm not so sure about firefox, perhaps micahg or ddecator would know
[08:27] <drew212> darn =X
[08:30] <baptistemm> hello
[08:30] <drew212> baptistemm: hi
[08:31] <baptistemm> is there someone here to renew my membership to ubuntu-bugcontrol ?
[08:32] <nigelbabu> if you can pop in after some time pedro or ara should be around
[08:33] <baptistemm> yeah, usually I stay here, but I close the channel yesterday by mistake
[08:33] <baptistemm> close
[08:33] <baptistemm> +d
[08:33] <baptistemm> grr
[08:34] <nigelbabu> heh
[11:46] <simar> Anybody having knowledge about xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ???
[11:46] <simar> help needed about triaging the bug Bug #591656
[11:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591656 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "scrolling issues using touchpad (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591656
[11:58] <gomyhr> simar, I don't know much about synaptics, but if it is similar to other xorg issues, I wouldn't expect to be able to reproduce it on your machine unless you have the same type of touchpad.
[11:59] <gomyhr> You may try on #ubuntu-x
[12:00] <simar> gomyhr, ya true , I have no such issue. Does't this implies that there is no issue with the driver rather there is something with the configration he's using ???
[12:02] <simar> gomyhr, Please follow this http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html#TroubleShoot
[12:02] <gomyhr> No, I would think that there could be something wrong with the driver that only manifests itself on the touchpad/scrollbar combination he is using. But yes, it could also be configuration issue.
[12:03] <simar> gomyhr, Do you know what does the file xorg.conf has do all about?
[12:04] <yofel> xorg.conf is the X server configuration. Video and input
[12:04] <gomyhr> Yes, all kinds of xorg-related devices can be configured there, but for the last couple of years it hasn't been necessary.
[12:05] <gomyhr> It is a goal that everything should work fine without an xorg.conf.
[12:05] <simar> gomyhr, what is xorg-related ?? i mean what does xorg means?
[12:05] <simar> i'm a mew triager
[12:05] <yofel> !X
[12:05] <ubot2> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[12:06] <yofel> well, graphical output and all input devices
[12:07] <simar> ya i messed with my xorg.conf when my screen used to get blank with nvidia drivers ....
[12:07] <yofel> simar: as said, X is responsible for managing the graphical output on your screen, for that it needs to manage the input devices like mouse and keyboard too
[12:08] <yofel> xorg.conf is the main configuration file, but is mostly obsolete as X uses auto-configuration now. You only need it if you need to other values than the default ones
[12:08] <yofel> like for the nvidia drivers
[12:09] <yofel> you can also configure your touchpad and other things there, that's why you're supposed to add the file to a report if it exists as those are custom settings that might be the cause of the issue
[12:09] <yofel> but apport will do that for you usually
[12:10] <simar> ok
[12:10] <simar> so what should i do as a triager about bug 591656
[12:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591656 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "scrolling issues using touchpad (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591656
[12:13] <simar> yofel : @above
[12:13] <yofel> I'm looking at ti
[12:13] <yofel> *it
[12:13] <simar> ok
[12:14] <simar> yofel, should i ask him to upload his xorg.conf
[12:14] <yofel> hm, I would have to reboot to test that as I'm running maverick right now which has a different X version. Can't reproduce it there, but I'm pretty certain that I have a different touchpad too
[12:17] <simar> hey whats this /dev/psaux
[12:22] <yofel> no idea, and about xorg.conf, If apport didn't add it then I think he doesn't even have one
[12:23] <yofel> have to go for now, bbl
[12:40] <simar> Please try to triage the bug no 591656. Help needed i'm a new triager..
[13:19] <vish> bug 591656
[13:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 591656 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "scrolling issues using touchpad (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591656
[14:16] <bcurtiswx> good morn all
[14:17] <nigelbabu> morning bcurtiswx :)
[14:21] <bcurtiswx> :-)
[17:28] <jcastro> vish: around?
[17:28] <vish> jcastro: hey
[17:30] <jcastro> vish: if you see that bruno guy again can you send him my way? I have questions for him
[17:30] <jcastro> the new shotwell guy
[17:30] <vish> jcastro: yeah ,sure
[17:31] <jcastro> vish: also, who's been rocking contacts lately? I'd like to do a blog post
[17:32] <jcastro> but like, it's always sense, so I want to think outside the box!
[17:32] <vish> jcastro: i dint understand "who's been rocking contacts lately? " you mean upstream contacts? which projects?
[17:33] <jcastro> any project
[17:33] <jcastro> there's gotta be someone rocking it in some corner of launchpad ...
[17:34] <vish> bruno is the new guy , then there are a few other from shotwell , they are always quick to respond
[17:34] <jcastro> who are they?
[17:35] <jcastro> bah, I should just look on the wiki lol
[17:36] <vish> jcastro: https://launchpad.net/~adam-yorba
[17:36] <vish> he is quick on any bug
[17:36] <vish> shotwell ones
[17:38] <jcastro> yeah, but he's also upstream
[17:38] <vish> yeah
[17:39] <vish> jcastro: kermiac took over rhythmbox adoption from nigelb
[17:40] <jcastro> the wiki says it's VictorVargas
[17:40] <vish> yeah , thats kermiac
[17:41] <jcastro> ah, his wiki says kamusin
[17:41] <vish> or is that kamusin .. bah
[17:41] <vish> :p
[17:41] <jcastro> awesome, I will hunt him down!
[17:42] <kamusin> :o
[17:43] <vish> jcastro: ^ ;)
[17:43] <jcastro> kamusin: I want to put more visibility on what upstream adopters do.
[17:43] <jcastro> kamusin: can you perhaps like, write me up some of the things you do for rb and ubuntu?
[17:44] <jcastro> I want to use you as an example to motivate people!
[17:44] <kamusin> no problem jcastro :)
[17:44] <jcastro> kamusin: basically, your workflow or something
[17:45] <jcastro> kamusin: and also, I need a picture of you. :)
[19:15] <ddecator> drew212: sorry, i went to bed right before you pinged. as nigel said, it's ok to ask a user to test on a development release (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Needing%20testing%20in%20the%20development%20release)
[19:30] <micahg> drew212: in the case of Firefox, lucid is the same as Maverick ATM, but after I get upload rights, I'll try to have the lastest pre-release in the development release
[19:30]  * bcurtiswx +1 micahg getting upload rights
[19:33] <micahg> drew212: before asking to check in the devel release, it's a good idea to check which versions are in the reported release and higher, sometimes, it's enough to ask to check their current release
[19:34] <micahg> thanks bcurtiswx :)