[09:35] <Jucato> (talking about packages here)
[09:35] <thoreauputic> as I said though, rox-filer mounts on click anyway, although ivman makes it aware of usb disks etc
[09:36] <thoreauputic> ie. with ivman running, clicking on /media/usbdisk or whatever will access the device
[09:36] <jakub_> what's the PAM module for preventing root from seeing network profiles? i.e. a network user logs in with a home directory mounted as /mnt/home/netuser, root doesn't have access `find /mnt/home/netuser`
[09:44] <tamacracker> Guys? How come every time I watch a video online... say from Youtube, myspace, google etc... the sound and video freezes and the sound is like a broken record that keeps repeating over and over?
[09:44] <eMaX> re
[09:45] <reldruh> tamacracker: that sounds like a flash problem. Have you tried reinstalling it?
[09:45] <tamacracker> I have not...
[09:46] <reldruh> it couldn't hurt
[09:46] <tamacracker> alright ill see what I can do.
[09:46] <reldruh> and maybe try the updated flash 9?
[09:46] <reldruh> I think it's still in beta, but it's working great for me
[09:48] <thoreauputic> the beta flash player is also alsa aware, which is nice ( no fighting for the sound device)
[09:48] <eMaX_> re
[09:48] <eMaX_> a package tells me that libqt3-mt >= 3:3.3.7 is needed, yet 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 be installed. What can I do
[09:48] <thoreauputic> eMaX: what package ?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> eMaX: hello? what are you installing?
[09:50] <eMaX_> ok sorry was able to solve it with --force-depends-version. needed to install tora with oracle support
[09:54] <eMaX_> how can I add to LD_LIBRARY_PATH so that this is taken for each program I start from kde as a normal user?
[09:57] <eMaX_> how can I exclude one given package from the update manager? I don't want to update a given package that I've installed manually and that now the packager thinks to be broken. Is there something like an ignore flag?
[09:57] <Ignite_> Is it possible to upgrade to OpenOffice.org 2.1?
[09:58] <Ignite_> Cleanly I mean.
[09:58] <Ignite_> :)
[09:59] <reldruh> Ignite_: it's probably best to wait until it gets into the repositories. I'm no expert, but I think that's the best way and it doesn't usually take long for it to get in there
[10:00] <Ignite_> I was thinking because it's a minor (major.minor.micro) release it wouldn't be in the repos until feisty fawn.
[10:01] <eMaX_> is there a way to exclude a package from the update manager?
[10:02] <reldruh> Ignite_: I think it'll be there before then
[10:02] <reldruh> is there a feature in it that you really need?
[10:06] <reldruh> has anybody here played with kde4 at all?
[10:08] <eMaX_> ?
[10:08] <reldruh> eMaX_: I don't know if there's a way to exclude a package
[10:09] <Admiral_Chicago> reldruh: i know some people that have but they are all asleep
[10:11] <matthew> how can I install KDE4?
[10:11] <reldruh> Admiral_Chicago: too bad. I was curious what it was like. I know the major parts of the new gui aren't really ready yet, but I was wondering what changes are already visible
[10:11] <reldruh> matthew: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php
[10:11] <reldruh> that's a set of instructions for the latest developer snapshsot
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> reldruh: as i understand it, a lot is under the cover stuff
[10:11] <Jucato> visual changes are very, very minimal, almost not noticeable, in the latest snapshot released for Kubuntu
[10:11] <reldruh> are the applications faster, though?
[10:11] <reldruh> the ones that have been ported?
[10:11] <Jucato> emphasis on the "developer" snapshot
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> reldruh: i heard they are
[10:11] <reldruh> mmm... good point
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> very fast
[10:11] <matthew> reldruh, thanks.
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> anyways I have a paper
[10:11] <reldruh> does phonon happen to be in a workable state? I'd love to see new sound stuff in linux
[10:11] <Jucato> it's not something that users can use already, or can observe. the developer snapshots are not meant as demos but something that developers would be able to use in developing KDE4 apps
[10:12] <MHK> hi all
[10:12] <reldruh> impatience go the best of me
[10:13] <reldruh> MHK: hi :-)
[10:14] <MHK> reldruh: hi =) what's going on?
[10:15] <reldruh> MHK: nothing much in here
[10:15] <reldruh> we were just talking about kde4 and how it wasn't ready for people to use yet
[10:15] <MHK> lol
[10:15] <MHK> well, i'm really looking forward to kde crash
[10:16] <reldruh> MHK: isn't that already out?
[10:16] <Jucato> "not ready for user-type people to use yet"
[10:16] <Jucato> developer-people can most certainly use it already...
[10:16] <matthew> MHK, ok, so, what's "plasma"?
[10:17] <Jucato> krash = nickname given to the developer snapshots of KDE 4 (KDE 3.80.x
[10:17] <Jucato> matthew: http://plasma.kde.org
[10:17] <matthew> Jucato, thank you
[10:17] <reldruh> I wish those websites were kept more up to date
[10:17] <gan|y|med> good morning
[10:17] <MHK> well, in the end i only need two things: xine and my browser. maybe also konversation
[10:18] <MHK> plasma.kde.org is... somewhat empty... no screenshots etc.
[10:19] <twosouls82> imbrandon: your site is down, due to a misconfiguration; 'error id: "bad_httpd_conf"'
[10:19] <Jucato> they weren't meant to contain screenshots anyway
[10:19] <reldruh> MHK: not even a roadmap like on the other ones
[10:19] <MHK> crap..
[10:19] <Jucato> the real "action" goes behinds the scenes (at least for the other KDE4 projects)
[10:19] <eMaX_> my problem is that I manually forced to install a package "tora" which requires libqt3-mt >= 3.3.7 while I have 3.3.6 installed. The package works and I want to keep it that way. yet the package manager now tells me that the package is broken and wants to "fix" it by installing the tora version from the repository that I do not want, as it does not have oracle support.
[10:19] <MHK> guess, will migrate to gentoo then. everything will be faster
[10:19] <bgsteffens> what is that command similar to 'sudo' but that can be run in Konsole? it starts with a k i think.. maybe 5 letters.. k____ kate /etc/....
[10:20] <Jucato> if you really want to keep up to date, read mailing lists, commit-digets, dot.kde.org
[10:20] <Jucato> bgsteffens: kdesu
[10:20] <MHK> kdesu
[10:20] <bgsteffens> tyty :)
[10:20] <MHK> Jucato: i want results! =D
[10:20] <Jucato> MHK: good luck. even if you use Gentoo now, you still won't have KDE 4
[10:21] <MHK> Jucato: i know, but when it's released i think about to migrate...
[10:21] <MHK> damned, my teacher is back...
[10:21] <MHK> cu
[10:22] <Jucato> he even got his /quit "joke"  wrong
[10:22] <Jucato> Alt+Q does nothing...
[10:22] <Jucato> he needs Ctrl+Q
[10:26] <malik__> kedit?
[10:27] <malik__> ksudo?
[10:27] <Jucato> older KDE text editor. Kate is newer
[10:27] <malik__> !kdsudo
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <Jucato> malik__: he already had his answer. it's kdesu
[10:28] <matthew> !kdesu
[10:28] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:28] <malik__> thats oki i was just tryin to find it for myself as i saw it somewhere yesterday:)
[10:29] <snapy> hello I would like to know what is the KDE way to share a desktop via VNC.  Somehow it has disappeared from my KDE menu
[10:31] <stamen> hi
[10:31] <lupine_85> weird... I can ssh to my remote server, but trying to set up a subversion repo accessible via ssh is saying access denied (publickey authentication). Any ideas, anyone?
[10:31] <stamen> a problem with edgy again
[10:31] <lupine_85> erm, access denied when I svn co from the local machine
[10:31] <matthew> stamen, what's up?
[10:32] <stamen> it didn't activate on startup the SWAP
[10:32] <stamen> and the hardware problems
[10:32] <matthew> stamen, sudo swapon -a
[10:32] <matthew> that should work
[10:32] <stamen> and the hardware drivers I mean, soory
[10:32] <stamen> ok
[10:32] <matthew> the swap or the raid?
[10:32] <stamen> and the LVM something
[10:33] <matthew> !LVM
[10:33] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:33] <stamen> I have only SATA drive
[10:33] <lupine_85> !subversion
[10:33] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[10:33] <stamen> ok I will see now
[10:33] <stamen> matthew: thanks for now
[10:33] <stamen> :)
[10:33] <Kabal> Hello all,
[10:33] <Kabal> I'm trying to install PSP Video Converter (pspvc)
[10:33] <Kabal> But when I try to install I get this.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36804/
[10:33] <Kabal> who can help me? :)
[10:33] <stamen> I will try the tips which you gave me
[10:33] <matthew> yay!
[10:34] <stamen> matthew: after doing this command sudo swapon -a will it be permanent
[10:34] <stamen> not to write it again and again
[10:34] <matthew> I think so. It was perm for me
[10:34] <stamen> ok
[10:34] <matthew> if not, you can add the command to xinitrc
[10:34] <matthew> I think
[10:34] <stamen> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/a3704e1e-197b-444b-931e-e6a57aafbc91: Invalid argument
[10:35] <matthew> ok, gimme a sec
[10:35] <matthew> try sudo swapon /dev/device_name
[10:35] <stamen> ok
[10:36] <wiking_> how to configure Picasa to show images full screen, not to fit screen ( http://<IP_ADDRESS>/Screenshot.png )
[10:36] <crazy_penguin> DBO: may I bother you with a question?
[10:36] <matthew> stamen, did it work?
[10:36] <stamen> matthew: waht I see after df -h is very strange for me
[10:36] <eMaX_> re - anyone here who can help me on how to tell my package manager to ignore one given package?
[10:36] <stamen> as i see on the place where should
[10:36] <matthew> stamen, what does df -h do?
[10:36] <stamen> it be the swap there is shm
[10:37] <stamen> dev/shm
[10:37] <stamen> is this somthing new?
[10:37] <matthew> stamen, don't you have the swap on the physical hard drive?
[10:38] <matthew> stamen, I've never heard of shm.
[10:38] <stamen> I made it and it was before upgrading
[10:38] <stamen> that is realy strange
[10:38] <stamen> there is varlock
[10:38] <stamen> varrun
[10:38] <stamen> procbususb
[10:39] <matthew> stamen, what is the partition no. of the swap partition?
[10:39] <stamen> it didn't appear
[10:39] <stamen> that is very strange for me
[10:39] <stamen> and now I must fix this too :(
[10:39] <matthew> stamen, try mkswap /dev/device_name
[10:40] <stamen> ok
[10:40] <matthew> stamen, how'd that work?
[10:41] <stamen> wait
[10:41] <matthew> k
[10:41] <crazy_penguin> can someone tell if i need more then the recipient (the users who i want to be able to receive mail thru the server) account in the postfix chroot passwd file ?
[10:41] <kraut> moin
[10:42] <stamen> matthew: I made it swap again :)
[10:42] <stamen> matthew: now I will try with other command
[10:42] <matthew> yay! It worked?
[10:42] <stamen> wait
[10:42] <matthew> ok
[10:43] <stamen> it works :)
[10:43] <stamen> thank you very much
[10:44] <matthew> stamen, very cool
[10:44] <stamen> but now the problem still stay with the other partitions
[10:44] <matthew> stamen, have you changed your fstab?
[10:44] <stamen> no
[10:45] <matthew> !pastebin | stamen
[10:45] <ubotu> stamen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:45] <matthew> paste your fstab on pastebin
[10:45] <stamen> matthew: what was the address
[10:45] <stamen> matthew: for pastebin
[10:45] <matthew> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:46] <matthew> paste it as stamen
[10:46] <stamen> matthew: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36806/
[10:46] <stamen> matthew: as I see it has modifyied itself
[10:47] <stamen> matthew: there are UID
[10:47] <matthew> I see, was the text "converted during upgrade to edgy" included, or did you add that yourself?
[10:48] <shenmue> !lftp
[10:48] <ubotu> lftp: Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0-1 (edgy), package size 349 kB, installed size 1364 kB
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> matthew: automatically by ubuntu
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> makes for a more robust fstab
[10:49] <stamen> matthew: I think kubuntu did it
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> don't know why
[10:49] <Jucato> !UUID
[10:49] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato ftw.
[10:49] <Jucato> :)
[10:49] <stamen> Admiral_Chicago: will work the older fstab which I have in backup
[10:49] <matthew> Jucato, FTW
[10:49] <matthew> for sure
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> stamen: that's shouldn't be the problem
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> what is the problem anyhow
[10:49] <matthew> stamen, I've got no idea...anyone else know?
[10:50] <Jucato> stamen: it should work, /dev or UUID
[10:50] <stamen> whawt is ->Jucato, FTW
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> For the win
[10:50] <stamen> aaa
[10:50] <Jucato> :P
[10:50] <stamen> :)
[10:50] <abattoir> Jucato FTW too
[10:50] <stamen> so windows can see it?
[10:51] <Jucato> lol hi abattoir!
[10:51] <abattoir> hi Jucato :)
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ??
[10:51] <Jucato> windows can't see ext3 or swap partitions
[10:51] <matthew> Windows Native can't see anything but FAT, FAT 16, FAT 32, and NTFS
[10:51] <matthew> I think
[10:51] <snpz^wrk> is there any LiveCD available with 2.6.19 kernel included?
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a guide somewhere online
[10:52] <snpz^wrk> Jucato, ext2fs
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> snpz^wrk: maybe Feisty
[10:52] <cpk1> Jucato: err yo can get windows to see ext2 so it sould be able to see ext3
[10:52] <snpz^wrk> Explore2Fs
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !feisty
[10:52] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <snpz^wrk> i mean
[10:52] <Jucato> snpz^wrk, cpk1: of course, but not by default
[10:52] <lenscape> !aria2
[10:52] <cpk1> excuse poor spelling
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aria2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <snpz^wrk> jup
[10:53] <cpk1> keyboard acting up
[10:53] <snpz^wrk> Admiral_Chicago, i will take a look
[10:54] <lenscape> anyone know where I can find a .deb for this? http://aria2.sourceforge.net/
[10:58] <snpz^wrk> http://tuxoblog.blogspot.com/2006/10/aria2-packages.html
[10:58] <oslo> lenscape> do you have try http://dl030.filefactory.com/dl/f/657c41/b/6/h/b5b469e26a46ff3f/ i get it following the package link from your url
[10:58] <matthew> good night, everyone
[11:00] <lenscape> oslo: Thanks. I didn't see that link
[11:03] <AnalogMan> Hello
[11:04] <sercik> heila!!!
[11:05] <sercik> how are you all!
[11:05] <AnalogMan> Troubled
[11:05] <sercik> in linux is normal
[11:05] <eMaX_> ne1 knows how to exclude a package from the package database / auto update?
[11:05] <sercik> only in windows all is simple but you can't do anithing!
[11:06] <AnalogMan> Okay, then what can I do with my problem?
[11:07] <thoreauputic> eMaX_: you can do (in terminal)  sudo aptitude hold <name-of-package> to stop it being upgraded
[11:08] <bernielive> hi all
[11:08] <bernielive> new to linux how do i install programs?
[11:09] <thoreauputic> !adept
[11:09] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:09] <bernielive> thanks
[11:10] <thoreauputic> bernielive: read that - you might also install synaptic ( it is more advanced in some ways)
[11:10] <thoreauputic> !repos| bernielive
[11:10] <ubotu> bernielive: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:11] <thoreauputic> !synaptic| bernielive
[11:11] <ubotu> bernielive: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:12] <thoreauputic> bernielive: adept and synaptic do the same things really - synaptic is probably more adaptable, and the command line apt and aptitude are the back ends for both
[11:12] <sercik> if you want to install program you can use apt-get install "program" if you know the name
[11:12] <sercik> or you can use synaptic or adept_manager graphic interface
[11:12] <bernielive> thanks serik all noted
[11:13] <sercik> i Like synapticbut is not default installed on kubuntu to do that open a konsole and type sudo apt-get install synzptic
[11:13] <bernielive> thanks thoreauputic
[11:13] <sercik> bernielive: pm me
[11:13] <thoreauputic> bernielive: no worries :)
[11:13] <bernielive> pm?
[11:14] <sercik> private message
[11:14] <sercik> click on my name right mouse and then choose private message
[11:15] <bernielive> doesn`t say pm
[11:19] <sercik> bernielive?!
[11:19] <sercik> which program are you usinf? to chat?
[11:19] <snpz^wrk> Konversation
[11:19] <snpz^wrk> xchat
[11:19] <sercik> on the left top you must see my name under #kubuntu
[11:20] <sercik> excuse me snpz^wrk i talk with bernielive
[11:20] <Jucato> sercik: if he's using Konversation (which is the one installed by default), it should be right-click -> Open Query
[11:21] <sercik> i have already opened conversation so he must only switch window chat
[11:21] <sercik> hi jucato!
[11:22] <Jucato> hi
[11:22] <sercik> i'm not very good with linux
[11:22] <sercik> but i'd like to help for the basis
[11:22] <Jucato> looks like he went afk or something
[11:22] <sercik> ii want to do my part
[11:22] <Jucato> that's very good :)
[11:22] <Jucato> keep it up
[11:23] <sercik> i have abbandoned fedora for kubuntu and for i'm in trouble for the differences :(
[11:23] <sercik> for example telinit command doesn't work in kubuntu
[11:23] <Jucato> don't worry. the basic differences would probably be the commands and package names. (unless you were using GNOME then)
[11:24] <sercik> i'd like to start in runlevel 3 and then call runlevel 5 with startx
[11:24] <Jucato> sercik: telinit is in Kubuntu
[11:24] <sercik> i use kubuntu
[11:24] <Jucato> ah.... runlevels... too advanced for me :)
[11:24] <sercik> and the inittab configuration file?
[11:24] <sercik> noooo
[11:24] <sercik> in redhat there was a file in /etc called inittab
[11:24] <Jucato> hm.. I forgot where inittab is.. but I think it's in here somewhere
[11:25] <sercik> only need to write init 3:initdefault
[11:25] <sercik> but i can't find inittab in kubuntu
[11:25] <cpk1> *ubuntu doesnt use runlevels iirc
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> cpk1: it does
[11:25] <Jucato> ah I think they did away with that in Edgy?
[11:26] <sercik> i don't think that don't use runlevel
[11:26] <sercik> is impossible
[11:26] <Jucato> sercik: edgy uses a new init system, not the old sys v init
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> no, still do iirc. maybe because of upstart not sure
[11:26] <Jucato> I do recall editing something like inittab to reduce the number of tty's... I just forgot...
[11:27] <cpk1> there still is /etc/inittab
[11:27] <cpk1> i *think*
[11:28] <cpk1> i am running dapper though
[11:30] <sercik> in the last kubuntu there is not inittab
[11:31] <sercik> someone could explain me qhy in synaptic appears like no installed some kde packages?
[11:31] <sercik> but i'm using kde now
[11:31] <sercik> under the category kde universe?
[11:32] <sercik> cai i switch to tha package to have completely support for mp3 mp4 aac in kde program?
[11:33] <sercik> Admiral_Chicago please light me!!
[11:33] <omgponiezlol> sercik: hello
[11:33] <omgponiezlol> it is I
[11:34] <sercik> | ?
[11:34] <omgponiezlol> I = Admiral
[11:34] <sercik> i know that you are admiral
[11:34] <omgponiezlol> what can i do for you?
[11:34] <sercik> what do you think abot my previous question?
[11:35] <omgponiezlol> synaptic? or mp3
[11:35] <sercik> i remember that in fedora there was a kde red-hat project that give the complete and official kde
[11:35] <omgponiezlol> not sure about that
[11:35] <omgponiezlol> !restricted | sercik
[11:35] <ubotu> sercik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:35] <omgponiezlol> for mp3
[11:35] <sercik> i thought that there was a similat thing in kubuntu
[11:35] <sercik> i know that page!
[11:36] <sercik> and i have read
[11:36] <omgponiezlol> kubuntu = kde build for ubuntu
[11:36] <sercik> but if i change completely kde
[11:36] <Rob-West> will Kubuntu go from my S3 video to Nividia withough a problem
[11:36] <omgponiezlol> Rob-West: probably
[11:36] <sercik> seems that universe repository give the complete kde
[11:36] <Rob-West> i dont wanna fight with Xorg
[11:36] <omgponiezlol> if not, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:37] <Jucato> (probably not... need to reconfigure X)
[11:37] <omgponiezlol> sercik: you mean for every kde package ever?
[11:37] <omgponiezlol> Jucato: X has done it for me before
[11:37] <Jucato> omgponiezlol: it used a fallback driver when you switched cards?
[11:37] <omgponiezlol> no it just worked, no idea how but it did...
[11:38] <Jucato> what driver were you using?
[11:38] <omgponiezlol> nv iirc
[11:38] <Jucato> and you switched from what card to what card?
[11:39] <omgponiezlol> nv to on board
[11:39] <Jucato> the onboard is also nvidia, I presume?
[11:39] <omgponiezlol> Jucato: can this come up some other time, unfortunetly Admiral has to get back to work
[11:39] <omgponiezlol> no intel
[11:40] <Jucato> ah
[11:40] <Jucato> ok sorry..
[11:40] <omgponiezlol> Jucato: thanks, we can talk when it's not...
[11:41] <omgponiezlol> @now chicago
[11:41] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 13 2006, 04:41:06
[11:41] <Rob-West> !time
[11:41] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[11:41] <Linux-Noobi> @now zurich
[11:41] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Zurich: December 13 2006, 11:41:39
[11:41] <Rob-West> @now Watervliet
[11:42] <Rob-West> !detroit
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about detroit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <Rob-West> @detroit
[11:42] <Rob-West> @now detroit
[11:42] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Detroit: December 13 2006, 05:42:19
[11:42] <Rob-West> wow
[11:42] <sercik> yes admiral
[11:42] <Rob-West> how can i check my CPU temps
[11:43] <sercik> i'm installing everything form universe repository that regards kde!
[11:43] <sercik> rob-west you can use lm-sensors
[11:43] <sercik> try sudo apt-get install ksensors
[11:43] <sercik> it installs lm-sensors and also a kde interface
[11:47] <Rob-West> 35C works
[11:47] <xsacha> hey anyone here know about restricted modules.. installing old nvidia driver or something?
[11:47] <Rob-West> thats what my CPU is running at
[11:48] <sercik> Good job Rob!
[11:48] <rob> thanks sercik!
[11:48] <digitalfreedom> i love when kopete crashes my desktop
[11:49] <rob> :p
[11:49] <sercik> nothing
[11:49] <sercik> xsacha what do you need?
[11:49] <xsacha> does restricted modules need to be uninstalled when you get a newer nvidia driver?
[11:49] <digitalfreedom> i love it even better when it crashes right after a reboot and wont re open thats aswsom
[11:50] <sercik> if you use alberto milone repository no
[11:50] <xsacha> what about installing from nvidia site?
[11:50] <sercik> because is an .deb package that will upgrade automatic with apt
[11:50] <sercik> i prefer to use people repository
[11:51] <sercik> you can vist alberto milone page and read which are the pro and cons
[11:51] <sercik> i have done with alberto milone repository and then automatic with adept_manager the driver download and install
[11:52] <sercik> if you use 64 bit:
[11:52] <sercik> #Alberto Milone Driver
[11:52] <sercik> deb http://www.albertomilone.com/drivers/edgy/nonlegacy/64bit binary/
[11:52] <xsacha> if i (it's not me -- i dont have an nvidia card) installed the drivers from nvidia website though, would i need to uninstall restricted modules?
[11:52] <sercik> add this to sources.list
[11:53] <sercik> i think that it is a right think
[11:53] <sercik> for sure......
[11:53] <xsacha> ok thx, page not found on that link
[11:54] <sercik> is not a page is the link to entry in sources.list
[11:54] <xsacha> i know
[11:54] <xsacha> but i cant browse it?
[11:54] <sercik> no
[11:54] <sercik> try to googlin for alberto milone
[11:54] <xsacha> :( can usually browse them
[11:54] <Jucato> hm..
[11:54] <sercik> wait a minute
[11:55] <Jucato> !nvidia9
[11:55] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[11:55] <sercik> jucato i'm italian so prefer alberto milone :)
[11:56] <Jucato> sercik: I don't know who owns that one. it's just in the bot
[11:56] <Jucato> (but yeah I think I'd trust tseliot's more...)
[11:56] <sercik> when i download with synaptic i can't browse the web (slowly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
[11:57] <sercik> jucato is there an qutomatic mode to insert jucato: like you do with sercik:
[11:57] <sercik> or you must write it
[11:57] <Jucato> sercik: tab completion. like in the command line
[11:57] <abattoir> sercik: write Juc and hit the tab key
[11:58] <abattoir> or even Ju
[11:58] <sercik> great
[11:58] <sercik> thank you
[11:58] <sercik> Jucato: thank you
[12:00] <sercik> ah! the exact page is http://albertomilone.com/driver.html
[12:01] <sercik> |multimedia
[12:01] <sercik> !multimedia
[12:01] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:04] <delphine_> hi there
[12:05] <delphine_> I am struggling to use Katapult
[12:05] <delphine_> but I get a funky "invalid or uninitialized input deveice 166"
[12:05] <delphine_> s/deveice/device
[12:06] <sercik> !aac
[12:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:08] <revolutionstudio> hey just asking but what kind of a server is myspace?....ftp or what?
[12:11] <revolutionstudio> hey just asking but what kind of a server is myspace?....ftp or what?
[12:11] <Rob-West> i just cleaned up my desktop
[12:11] <Rob-West> i added a second taskbar
[12:12] <Rob-West> and it looks alot better
[12:14] <d34l3r> hi
[12:14] <MHK> re
[12:14] <probZ> i got a problem
[12:14] <MHK> tell us
[12:14] <probZ> I need widgets
[12:14] <MHK> well, me at least
[12:14] <probZ> do you know what I mean
[12:15] <probZ> they show CPU Load
[12:15] <diomet> a
[12:15] <MHK> something like superkaramba?
[12:15] <probZ> inet speed
[12:15] <probZ> etc
[12:15] <MHK> try aero
[12:15] <Jucato> !superkaramba
[12:15] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[12:15] <probZ> ^^ wait
[12:15] <MHK> you'll get this at kde-looks.org
[12:15] <probZ> wait... going to take a look
[12:15] <diomet> help
[12:16] <diomet> where can i find xine codecs?
[12:16] <diomet> in apt-cache search
[12:16] <MHK> xinehq.org
[12:16] <diomet> thnq
[12:16] <probZ> where to find superkaramba?
[12:16] <Riddell> see RestrictedFormats
[12:16] <mkay_> probZ on sourceforge
[12:16] <Riddell> probZ: universe
[12:16] <MHK> probZ apt-get install superkaramba
[12:17] <probZ> ok ^^
[12:17] <probZ> i got kubuntu edgy eft
[12:17] <probZ> (6.10)
[12:17] <MHK> probZ apt-get install superkaramba
[12:17] <probZ> hope it's already built for edgy
[12:17] <Jucato> it is
[12:17] <probZ> any idea where to get apt package of xchat for edgy?
[12:17] <probZ> i cant find
[12:17] <MHK> damned, just try man!
[12:17] <Jucato> !info superkaramba | probZ
[12:17] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[12:17] <probZ> i am talking bout XCHAT not superkaramba -.-
[12:18] <Jucato> MHK: patience
[12:18] <Riddell> probZ: it's also in universe
[12:18] <MHK> probZ sorry, meant superkaramba not xchat
[12:18] <Riddell> although xchat-gnome is probably in main
[12:18] <Jucato> probZ: xchat is in the repositories, just like superkaramba
[12:18] <MHK> Jucato messed a test
[12:18] <probZ> xchat gnome is in main but not normal xchat
[12:18] <probZ> that sucks >_<
[12:19] <MHK> diomet: do you speak german?
[12:19] <probZ> ich ja
[12:19] <probZ> :>
[12:19] <diomet> i`m new on kubuntu/linux and i'll apreciate a lot some help with this codecs
[12:19] <probZ> :-D
[12:19] <probZ> @ mhk
[12:19] <diomet> MHK, no...
[12:19] <MHK> diomet: damned...
[12:19] <probZ> so
[12:19] <mindspin> !de
[12:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:19] <probZ> wo liegt das nun
[12:19] <probZ> in welcher kategorie @ mhk
[12:20] <MHK> diomet: there is very good wiki, unfortunately in german...
[12:20] <probZ> ah - dientprogramme
[12:20] <probZ> ^^
[12:20] <diomet> does not exist some apt-get install ?
[12:20] <MHK> probZ ??
[12:20] <probZ> jo
[12:20] <probZ> was gibts
[12:20] <diomet> i found one last night
[12:20] <MHK> diomet, because some are proprietary software
[12:21] <diomet> but i have reinstall the kubuntu
[12:21] <diomet> and now i can`t find it
[12:21] <MHK> diomet: i know that the admin will kill me, but try www.getautomatix.com
[12:21] <probZ> MHK
[12:21] <probZ> no update for edgy already...
[12:21] <probZ> only for dapper
[12:21] <probZ> ;)
[12:21] <MHK> probZ hu? what are you talking about? xchat?
[12:22] <probZ> no
[12:22] <diomet> i found a source.list for edgy
[12:22] <probZ> I am talking bout automatix
[12:22] <diomet> on howtoforge.com
[12:22] <MHK> diomet be carefull!!!
[12:22] <probZ> it is not optimized for edgy already
[12:22] <probZ> only for dapper drake
[12:22] <mkay_> diometic, i have the same prob. try easyubuntu...
[12:22] <MHK> probZ don't mind use 6.10
[12:22] <probZ> I use 6.10 :-D
[12:22] <probZ> ;>
[12:22] <mkay_> i hope it will be right for edgy, cause i install it too
[12:22] <MHK> probZ me2
[12:22] <probZ> MHK ich kann deutsch
[12:22] <probZ> nur nebenbei
[12:22] <probZ> ^^
[12:22] <diomet> i like 6.10
[12:23] <diomet> the last ubuntu tryied was 5.10
[12:23] <MHK> that sucked...
[12:23] <MHK> =(
[12:23] <probZ> 5.10 lol
[12:23] <probZ> crappy installer....
[12:23] <probZ> :-D
[12:23] <mkay_> probZ dies ist ein englischsprachiger channel. bitte richte dich danach
[12:23] <probZ> jop kk
[12:23] <diomet> i've been searching for an os to replace windows
[12:23] <diomet> and until now
[12:23] <diomet> kubuntu is the best
[12:23] <diomet> :)
[12:23] <MHK> diomet: try MacOSX gg
[12:24] <probZ> i need an overview what shows me how much RAM is used
[12:24] <probZ> how mach Harddisk space etc
[12:24] <probZ> I got superkaramba now
[12:24] <MHK> probZ take aero
[12:24] <probZ> what extensions do you recommend
[12:24] <mkay_> MHK mac is cool
[12:25] <mkay_> probZ superkaramba
[12:25] <mkay_> or conky
[12:25] <probZ> i've got superkaramba
[12:25] <probZ> but it only shows "design"
[12:25] <probZ> designs
[12:25] <diomet> maybe, but it can be installed on a pc
[12:25] <MHK> mkay_: got this crap at school... unfortunately
[12:25] <diomet> :)
[12:25] <probZ> but not extensions -.-
[12:25] <diomet> i heard something about a pc version
[12:26] <MHK> probZ: download some from www.kde-looks.org and then unpack and then click on'em
[12:26] <mkay_> probZ no, it have nice sysmonitors too
[12:26] <probZ> :-D
[12:27] <bezxyw> :D
[12:27] <probZ> just microsoft software
[12:27] <probZ> nothin more or less
[12:27] <MHK> M$ u mean
[12:27] <probZ> I was forced to Win XP on an 1 GHZ Machine
[12:27] <probZ> to install*
[12:27] <probZ> 5 mins after inet access the machine was damn slow
[12:27] <probZ> and full of viruses
[12:27] <probZ> >_>
[12:28] <probZ> now I will install some Debian based Distribution
[12:28] <diomet> a few years ago i installed a XP on a 350MHz pc
[12:28] <probZ> :-)
[12:28] <MHK> who looked for codecs?
[12:28] <diomet> ME
[12:28] <probZ> Windows ME
[12:28] <probZ> :-P
[12:28] <mkay_> me too, cause easyubuntu doesnt work
[12:28] <MHK> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[12:28] <mkay_> im installing edgy via ssh, very precious
[12:29] <MHK> and for the german one: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Codecs
[12:29] <probZ> MHK
[12:29] <probZ> extensions for Superkaramba?
[12:29] <stamen> hi
[12:29] <probZ> where 2 get from
[12:29] <stamen> how to see which program uses my CPU on 100% ?
[12:29] <abattoir> probZ: what sort of 'extensions' do you need?
[12:29] <abattoir> stamen: try top
[12:29] <probZ> well
[12:29] <probZ> one that shows CPU Load
[12:29] <stamen> abattoir: how
[12:29] <probZ> one for RAM usage
[12:29] <abattoir> stamen: 'top' in a terminal
[12:29] <stamen> ok
[12:30] <probZ> one for iNET Activity (in and out)
[12:30] <MHK> stamen: top -d 0.5
[12:30] <probZ> thats it
[12:30] <abattoir> stamen: open up a terminal(konsole) type top, and press enter
[12:30] <diomet> libxine-extracodecs
[12:30] <diomet> that`s the codec
[12:30] <diomet> now i have to find a repository
[12:30] <diomet> :)
[12:30] <probZ> ah and one for harddisk usage (space left / space used)
[12:30] <abattoir> !info libxine-extracodecs
[12:30] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[12:30] <probZ> @ abattoir
[12:30] <stamen> abattoir: I saw it, thanks :)
[12:30] <MHK> ffmpeg (universe), libxvidcore4 (multiverse), libxine-extracodecs (multiverse), libquicktime
[12:31] <MHK> that are the most important codecs
[12:31] <abattoir> probZ: browse through kde-look.org or click on Get new stuff in the sk main window
[12:31] <abattoir> probZ: and choose a system monitor which fits your needs
[12:31] <MHK> probZ: shall i send you a copy of aero?
[12:31] <MHK> abattoir: give it up...
[12:32] <abattoir> MHK: give what up?
[12:32] <MHK> abattoir: give it up, he wants you to do it.
[12:32] <probZ> -.- foad
[12:33] <abattoir> MHK: do what?
[12:33] <MHK> probZ: look yourself and use your eyes. I can only recommend you something.
[12:33] <probZ> forget what he said
[12:33] <probZ> ...
[12:33] <MHK> abattoir to install the superkaramba design
[12:33] <probZ> i dont need superkaramba... i had normal widgets using Gnome
[12:33] <probZ> now I search some for KDE
[12:33] <probZ> -.-
[12:33] <probZ> thats all...
[12:34] <abattoir> probZ: yeah, superkaramba is a 'widget' program
[12:34] <probZ> superkaramba only shows me some designs
[12:34] <probZ> i dont need designs -.-
[12:34] <MHK> and then you need some widget themself
[12:34] <abattoir> if you need something very simple(at least eye-candy wise) get gkrellm
[12:34] <MHK> designs=widget
[12:34] <abattoir> probZ: 'designs'?
[12:34] <eilker> !vnc
[12:34] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:34] <probZ> yeah visual designs...
[12:34] <abattoir> MHK: wait a sec
[12:35] <MHK> abattoir hm, also two sec... =)
[12:35] <abattoir> :)
[12:35] <MHK> well, these were now 45.4 sec
[12:36] <eMaX_> re
[12:36] <eMaX_> anyone knows what ubuntu-minimal is for and why it is being removed upon install of other packages?
[12:37] <MHK> probZ http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Desklets#SuperKaramba
[12:38] <probZ> ?
[12:38] <probZ> right
[12:38] <probZ>  Imeant desklets
[12:38] <probZ> not widgets ^^ sry
[12:38] <MHK> probZ: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=50059&PHPSESSID=abbc07f1342c22c41bb926996c9ea576
[12:38] <j03> !FreeNX
[12:38] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:38] <MHK> probZ guess that's what you're looking for
[12:38] <abattoir> probZ: try http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=50059
[12:38] <probZ> yep^^
[12:38] <abattoir> oh, the same stuff
[12:39] <abattoir> it's by nixternal apparently :)
[12:39] <probZ> I mixed up widgets / desklets
[12:39] <probZ> sry!
[12:39] <marius_> Hi, I'm running thunderbird as my mailclient and if I click on a link in an email it tries to open this with konqueror. However I'd prefer if it used firefox. I cannot find this setting in thunderbird so I'm guessing thunderbird somehow drops the request to kde and lets kde open it with the default browser. Where do I set this behaviour ?
[12:40] <MHK> marius_ go to Systemsettings
[12:41] <MHK> marius_ then to standard programms (or similar, got german version) and then to webbrowser and change then to firefox (got to type in)
[12:41] <marius_> MHK Systemsettings/standard programs/webbrowser is already at firefox
[12:41] <diomet> mkay_: i solved
[12:41] <diomet> :)
[12:42] <diomet> need help?
[12:42] <MHK> marius_ hum, well then i don't know
[12:42] <twosouls82> marius_: it might use the $BROWSER variable then
[12:42] <probZ> abattoir
[12:42] <probZ> how to change the KDE Theme?
[12:42] <twosouls82> marius_: export it in your ~/.bashrc
[12:42] <probZ> oO?
[12:42] <probZ> not just the background
[12:42] <eilker> !ssh
[12:42] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:42] <twosouls82> probZ: try to look for yourself in Kcontrol
[12:43] <twosouls82> look harder
[12:43] <marius_> If I type an address in the "run command" bar in kde is in fact uses firefox. So it appears to be a thing of GTK applications maybe
[12:43] <twosouls82> marius_: look at what I said, some apps (mostly gtk) use the $BROWSER environment variable to launch urls
[12:44] <twosouls82> marius_: put 'export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox' in ~/.bashrc
[12:44] <twosouls82> marius_: then relogin
[12:45] <twosouls82> it might even lauch sensible-brower, that wouldn't be nice
[12:45] <twosouls82> =)
[12:45] <Hisfkof> hi peapole, i need install kwlan (or similar) gui for wpa_supplicant
[12:45] <Hisfkof> kwlan don't work, his say "wpa_supplicant not are executing"  but wpa_supplicant daemon are working
[12:46] <marius_> twosouls82: I've done something similar: in a shell : >>> export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox' && modzilla-thunderbird <<<  but still the same so the env setting does not seem to do the trick
[12:47] <twosouls82> marius_: to determine if the sensible-browser is used; 'ln -s /usr/bin/firefox ~/bin/sensible-browser' and restart thunder, if that wasn't it, remove the symlink from your personal bin dir
[12:51] <marius_> twosouls82: still konqueror... Hmm I need to work now. I'll try later. I'll just keep copying the addresses into firefox
[12:51] <twosouls82> marius_: export BROWSER=/usr/bin/firefox' && modzilla-thunderbird <--- typo, missing '
[12:51] <twosouls82> marius_: have a nice day at work
[12:52] <marius_> twosouls82: O yea the typo was here in the chat, not in the shell of course. But thank you !
[12:52] <twosouls82> :)
[12:54] <probZ> found what i needed
[12:54] <probZ> ...
[12:54] <probZ> where can i find truecrypt... is there any official binary?
[12:55] <lupine_85> !truecrypt
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <lupine_85> nope
[01:00] <fildo> *gone
[01:03] <Gunirus> Hi
[01:04] <Gunirus> When i plug in my USB hdd, Kubuntu asks me what to do. I click "open i a new window" and the hdd will be mounted... But the owner is root
[01:07] <Gunirus> how can i change that?
[01:13] <digitalfreedom> i do i uninstall a tar file from cli?
[01:13] <digitalfreedom> how*
[01:18] <verminox_> hey any kdevelop users here?
[01:18] <sercik> an antivirus for kubuntu?
[01:21] <supergreg> my adept package manager just quit on me, and now it says "another process is using the packaging system db"  - how do I kill it?
[01:21] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | supergreg
[01:21] <ubotu> supergreg: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:21] <supergreg> thanks
[01:22] <Gunirus> When i plug in my USB hdd, Kubuntu asks me what to do. I click "open i a new window" and the hdd will be mounted... But the owner is root
[01:22] <Gunirus> how can i change that?
[01:24] <marius_> twosouls82: If you are interested, i've found a solution to the default browser used by thunderbird: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[01:24] <twosouls82> marius_: thanks man, next time I will have that as a third option =)
[01:24] <twosouls82> ;)
[01:27] <twosouls82> marius_: I changes my from 'galeon' to 'konqueror', I am on kde an galeon was default  :D
[01:27] <twosouls82> s/changes/changed/g
[01:27] <twosouls82> s/a/an/g
[01:46] <delphine_> ok, Katpult is driving me crazy
[01:46] <delphine_> or rather, it's not driving at all :(
[01:47] <stamen> how can I search in console by letter
[01:47] <stamen> ls ?
[01:47] <stamen> in example, I am in directory with many subdirs
[01:48] <stamen> and they are starting with letters
[01:48] <stamen> how can I search by letter "w"
[01:48] <stamen> lets say
[01:48] <stamen> to show me the folders with "w"
[01:48] <eMaX_> did I say recently adept sucks....
[01:49] <stamen> :)
[01:49] <eMaX_> when I have a conflict, it gives me an ok button and forgets all selected packages afterwards
[01:49] <stamen> eMaX_: yes I now
[01:49] <stamen> :)
[01:49] <stamen> know
[01:50] <eMaX_> any other thing that I can use instead that would be better
[01:50] <stamen> eMaX_: use apt-get
[01:50] <stamen> eMaX_: for search use-> apt-cache search
[01:50] <eMaX_> a little more like user interface fancy ? :)
[01:51] <stamen> eMaX_: with GUI I don't know
[01:51] <marius_> stamen: ls w*
[01:51] <stamen> marius_: 10x
[01:51] <stamen> :)
[01:52] <stamen> how can I test my webcam
[01:52] <stamen> does it work or not
[01:52] <eMaX_> of course if I select packages manually using adept, I cannot use apt-get as the database is locked
[01:53] <stamen> eMaX_: close adept
[01:53] <stamen> and try gain
[01:53] <stamen> again
[01:54] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | eMaX_
[01:54] <ubotu> eMaX_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:55] <Jucato> delphine_: ls <letter>*, like "ls w*" to search for everything beginning with 'w' (doesn't include 'W')
[01:56] <delphine_> huh?
[01:56] <Jucato> er sorry
[01:56] <Jucato> it was for stamen...
[01:56] <delphine_> auto complete ;)
[01:56] <Jucato> stamen: ls <letter>*, like "ls w*" to search for everything beginning with 'w' (doesn't include 'W')
[01:56] <Jucato> delphine_: nah.. I wasn't reading properly... your nick and stamen have the same color here...
[01:57] <stamen> Jucato: yes they told me :)
[01:57] <stamen> Jucato: 10x
[01:57] <stamen> Jucato: do you know how to test my webcam
[01:58] <Jucato> nope
[01:58] <stamen> Jucato: I wan't to use it ofcourse
[01:58] <Jucato> I don't even have a webcam, much less know how to test it...
[01:58] <stamen> Jucato: but I can't use it with skype for now
[01:58] <stamen> Jucato: ok
[01:58] <abattoir> !webcam
[01:58] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:58] <stamen> does anybody knows
[01:58] <abattoir> stamen: skype for linux doesn't support video yet
[01:58] <stamen> abattoir: yes I know
[01:58] <stamen> :(
[01:59] <stamen> thats why I install whengophone
[01:59] <stamen> whengophone
[01:59] <stamen> it supports
[01:59] <stamen> but I can't see a preview in the settings
[01:59] <stamen> of my webcam
[02:18] <nuxil> how can i put a dot at the 3 number from right to left? example.. i got a string like: 123456 i want that to be 123.456 or if its 1234 i want it to be 1.234
[02:19] <nuxil> how can i do it?
[02:21] <Koshtan> hi all
[02:21] <kruemeltee> hi Koshtan
[02:22] <Koshtan> first time starting this talking from the live CD :D
[02:22] <Koshtan> looks good
[02:25] <fdsareqwfsdarewq> hello?
[02:25] <fdsareqwfsdarewq> hi this thing is on :)
[02:25] <Koshtan> first time for you to dude?
[02:25] <Koshtan> :)
[02:26] <fdsareqwfsdarewq> first time on irc in oh 10 years
[02:27] <fdsareqwfsdarewq> never used this client before
[02:28] <fdsareqwfsdarewq> the channel lists are hilarious  lilo-memorial :)
[02:28] <fdsareqwfsdarewq> ciao
[02:30] <Koshtan> :))
[02:31] <Koshtan> is there any good pluggin for .mp3,.avi... etc. ?
[02:34] <Koshtan> is there any good pluggin for .mp3,.avi... etc. ?
[02:35] <Koshtan> any one...
[02:39] <BluesKaj> howdy all ! :)
[02:40] <Koshtan> hi
[02:44] <Gunirus_> hi Koshtan
[02:45] <BluesKaj> wow, quiet this morning
[02:47] <Koshtan> is there any good pluggin for .mp3,.avi... etc. ? PLS
[02:48] <Koshtan> this OS looks just fine :D
[02:48] <crimsun_> Koshtan: for what app/usage?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> can anyone decipher this message . This is the error message generated when trying to open Xawtv,...  Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-ledfixed-medium-r-*--39-*-*-*-c-*-*-*" to type FontStruct
[02:49] <crimsun_> Koshtan: enable the universe and multiverse components, then install the 'libxine-extracodecs' package
[02:50] <Koshtan> crimsun_:  realy dont care i just want to play them.. ex.: coffeine to play .avy and amarok .mp3
[02:50] <Koshtan> ill do my best thanks...
[02:50] <Koshtan> :)
[02:51] <Shan`> i just connected another hdd in place of my cdrom.. now i cant see it
[02:51] <master_> give it for ubuntu a filesharing program???
[02:52] <Shan`> tanyone?
[02:53] <Shan`> hello?
[02:53] <crimsun_> Shan`: does the bios recognise it?
[02:53] <Shan`> yeah
[02:53] <Shan`> i mean i hope so
[02:53] <Shan`> lol
[02:53] <Shan`> i didnt check
[02:53] <crimsun_> then check.
[02:53] <Shan`> lol brb
[02:55] <Koshtan> crimsun_: how do I enable the universe and multiverse components? im realy kinda new here SRY
[02:56] <crimsun_> !components |Koshtan
[02:56] <ubotu> Koshtan: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:56] <Koshtan> hih thanks...
[02:57] <Shan`> well.. i checked and it detects it as secondary slave
[02:58] <Shan`> crimsun_, ??
[02:59] <master_> ubuntu sucks
[03:00] <dannybuntu> lol
[03:00] <BluesKaj> well, now you can deal with it Shan`, but it means you have to reset the connections for that drive to either primary or slave depending on what setup you want to have
[03:01] <flo_> Anyone here who can help me with passwordless ssh ?
[03:01] <Shan`> Black5un, does that mean i need to check the jumper?
[03:01] <Koshtan> laters my linux friends.. crimsun_ ,thanks again!
[03:02] <BluesKaj> yes. go to the makers' site for the name amd number of the drive to dee what the jumper options are, Shan`
[03:02] <BluesKaj> see
[03:02] <Shan`> grrrr
[03:02] <Shan`> Black5un, theres no jumper in there.. os its obviously a slave rigt?
[03:04] <Shan`> *sigh*
[03:04] <BluesKaj> not necessarily Shan` , it depends on the maker's setup
[03:05] <BluesKaj> what brand is the drive
[03:05] <Shan`> its a 40 gb sAMSUNG
[03:05] <BluesKaj> model ?
[03:05] <Shan`> AND SORRY BOUT THE NICK BluesKaj
[03:05] <Shan`> SV4012H
[03:07] <Shan`> the thing is BluesKaj that i got this drive from work.. and i intend to use this as a backup disk.. but i need to first take a backup of the stuff thats on there.. it might be some imp work related shit
[03:08] <hammer> sources list /etc/apt?
[03:09] <Shan`> ?
[03:09] <VSpike> When I insert a removable storage device and it gets mounted into /media and a link placed on the desktop, what mechanism(s) are doing that?
[03:09] <Shan`> would be fun to automount all drives eh?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> Shan`, you can see the drive , then you have access to the data unless it's pw protected etc
[03:11] <Shan`> BluesKaj, I cant mount it.. i see it as hdd but if I try to mount it it asks for a fs type which i know is ext3 cos theres another ubuntu install on it but then it says ext3 is wrong
[03:12] <mindspin> VSpike do you have issues with usb devices?
[03:12] <BluesKaj> doesn't matter whether it's a slave ...you van always change it
[03:12] <Shan`> would reconfiguring grub see it as a bootable and give me that option?
[03:12] <Schuenemann> how can I remove the java (JDK) included in kubuntu?
[03:13] <eMaX_> anyone here knows how to recompile the kernel that comes with kubuntu? I'm asking as I've seen a patch that would allow me to enable my drivebay hotswap. I've not yet compiled a kernel on ubuntu (only suse), and otoh don't want to break any other things like suspend/standby which work well
[03:13] <crimsun_> ...there is no JDK included with Kubuntu.
[03:13] <Schuenemann> sorry, JRE
[03:13] <crimsun_> meaning gcj?
[03:13] <Schuenemann> yeah, gcj
[03:13] <crimsun_> why remove it? do you want Sun's or IBM's instead?
[03:13] <Rebecca> hi hi... how do i kill arts on the live cd.. im trying to install but arts keeps poping up "sound server fatal error; cpu overload aborting". top shows it is going crazy. killing it doesnt help because it respawns.. disabling sound in kde setup thingy doesnt help either
[03:14] <Schuenemann> yes, I'll install JDK 6
[03:14] <BluesKaj> Shan`, your present ubuntu is prolly ext3 as well ...some how it has to become the primary ....the best thing in my opinion is make it the primary and disconnect your present primary for now so you can access the samsung
[03:14] <crimsun_> Schuenemann: you don't need to remove it; just reconfigure the Java alternative and $PATH
[03:14] <Schuenemann> but there's no reason to have an older version
[03:14] <Shan`> BluesKaj, makes sense.. thanx
[03:14] <Shan`> bbl
[03:15] <crimsun_> Schuenemann: when you remove gcj, it'll drag away a considerable portion of the infrastructure, too.
[03:15] <BluesKaj> right
[03:15] <Schuenemann> hmm...
[03:15] <crimsun_> Rebecca: in a Konsole: grep snd_via82xx /proc/asound/modules >/dev/null 2>&1 ; echo $?
[03:15] <Rebecca> the reason it's dieing is probably because it's trying to use my crappy onboard sound by default.. but i have a SBlive that i normally use.. ill fix that up when i finish the install but anyone know how to kill arts for now?
[03:16] <crimsun_> Rebecca: tell me what that entire command returns
[03:16] <Rebecca> crimsun_: 0
[03:16] <sercik> hi rebecca!
[03:16] <sercik> probably you could disable onboard audio from bios
[03:17] <crimsun_> Rebecca: excellent. I fixed that several months ago. In the meantime, just set your SB Live to be the default. In that same Konsole, what's the output from ``asoundconf list'' ?
[03:17] <Rebecca> sercik: um, hi
[03:17] <Rebecca> V8237
[03:17] <sercik> i think is the best solution if you use a live why doesn't disable audio on board?
[03:17] <sercik> ciao a tutti!!!
[03:18] <the_hammer> ok every sudo command i do isnt working sudo kwrite and sudo kate
[03:18] <sercik> hi to the great kkathman...
[03:18] <Rebecca> sercik: because right now im just trying to install it to my hdd not set it up
[03:18] <the_hammer> i wanna edit my stupoid sources list
[03:18] <crimsun_> Rebecca: ok, in the same Konsole: echo options snd-via82xx dxs_support=2 |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[03:18] <Schuenemann> the_hammer: it's kdesu
[03:18] <crimsun_> Rebecca: wait, you haven't finished installing it yet?
[03:18] <Schuenemann> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:19] <the_hammer> thanks guys
[03:19] <Rebecca> crimsun_: nope. read what i have said and that's evident
[03:19] <Rebecca> crimsun_: i just dont want the install to be messed up by arts consuming 99% cpu while im doing it
[03:19] <crimsun_> Rebecca: (no, it's not evident, because the installer could have begun already, which changes the approach)
[03:20] <crimsun_> Rebecca: you can disable the sound server in System Settings
[03:20] <Rebecca> crimsun_: like i said... i did already....
[03:21] <VSpike> mindspin: sorry.. had to attend to a crying baby suddenly.  Not exactly.  Mostly curiosity.    Yet, when I plug a card into that device, it gets mounted as /media/usbdisk
[03:24] <mindspin> so you seem not affected by that bug
[03:24] <VSpike> mindspin: what are the symptoms?
[03:25] <mindspin> usb devices are no more recognized by plugging them in and you'll have to fiddle around with fstab or "downgrading" hal
[03:26] <ncaller> gnome-terminal has a way to enlarge the window and font while keeping the lines 80x25 constant. using (Ctrl Shift +).  In Konsole I know you can drag the window larger and choose a larger font size but is there a way to increase it and keep the aspect or lines the same? (80x24) in this case?
[03:27] <VSpike> well, I have one device which used to be recognised when I plugged it into that 3 port hub, and now isnt unless I plug it into the PC itself.
[03:27] <Alter-Ego> i am getting no sound from you tube videos
[03:29] <vyoman> what is the linux way of windows ipconfig /flushDNS?
[03:30] <ncaller> vyoman what do you need to do?
[03:30] <vyoman> clear the dns cache
[03:30] <LjL> vyoman, don't assume we know what windows commands do :P anyway, i'm not sure there's a DNS cache at all... i'll check
[03:30] <ncaller> what is resolving improperly?
[03:30] <vyoman> ohps yes thanks
[03:31] <LjL> vyoman: http://www.tech-faq.com/flush-dns.shtml <- but this daemon the talk about doesn't seem to be there here =)
[03:31] <vyoman> i am changing the DNS entries on the server and don't like to wait for the DNS TTL
[03:31] <ncaller> create a temporary entry for the machine in /etc/hosts
[03:31] <VSpike> mindspin: so, what part does HAL play in the whole process? I remember you used to have to fiddle with things like putting "auto" in your fstab, or using supermount or autofs or whatever they were called.  Are those still involved, or does KDE itself take care of things now?
[03:32] <LjL> vyoman: some google seems to confirm my suspicions of no-caching-by-default
[03:33] <ncaller> verify it has actually been changed on the nameserver by doing a manual lookup at that nameserver: $ host box.to.lookup nameserver.to.use
[03:33] <vyoman> ahh thank you very much, i thought i ask here first
[03:33] <sercik> i have tried to launch a program with alt+F2 combination keys (for example synaptic) it requires root privileges and kubuntu try to use gksu (s gnome frontend to sudo) why it doesn't use kdesu instead?
[03:33] <LjL> sercik: well, if the program is synaptic, then it doesn't surprise me too much that it tries to use to gksu...
[03:33] <mindspin> iirc hal is the kde part which handles the stuff, but I#m no expert/developer
[03:33] <sercik> hi ljl
[03:34] <LjL> sercik: anyway, can't you just specify "kdesu" before the command manually, if the program itself is too smart for its own good?
[03:34] <sercik> i have resolved installing gksu
[03:34] <sercik> but i tought that was an option to specify the use of kdesu as predefined!
[03:34] <LjL> wouldn't installing synaptic install gksu anyway?
[03:35] <ncaller> also when you run Alt+F2, there is an options menu to "Run as a different user" you should use that
[03:35] <Jucato> LjL: afaik, no
[03:35] <sercik> excuse me but i don't understand
[03:35] <sercik> the problem however is not important.....
[03:35] <VSpike> mindspin: thx
[03:35] <LjL> sercik, there's no "predefined" sudo-like command i think... it's just that some programs (like synaptic, i guess) have the abilities to launch a sudo-style thing on their own. in the case of gnome programs, i would assume it's gksudo
[03:36] <sercik> probably
[03:36] <ncaller> well maybe not if root's password is unknown and only accessed through sudo then being able to enter the root password is pointless.  I guess it depends on if kde's run is invoking su or sudo
[03:36] <sercik> i'm not good in linux and was not symple to mer understand that the problem was gksudo :(
[03:37] <LjL> Jucato: hmm, well, depends what you use to install it ;-) gksudo is a recommends. if you install gnome-app-install it's a depends, though
[03:37] <Jucato> LjL: probably. I only installed synaptic (for testing)
[03:37] <LjL> sercik, why was it a problem, at any rate?
[03:37] <Schuenemann> can anyone tell me where to download flash9? Adobe website always redirects me to flash7
[03:37] <sercik> strange that apt-get install synaptic doesn't install also gksudo
[03:37] <LjL> Jucato: right, i said "depends" because if you installed it using, say, aptitude, the recommends would be installed by default
[03:37] <LjL> !flash9 | Schuenemann
[03:37] <ubotu> Schuenemann: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[03:38] <Jucato> it shouldn't be a problem. when you install Synaptic, the K Menu entry for it doesn't specifically use gksu/gksudo or kdesu
[03:38] <Schuenemann> !backports
[03:38] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:38] <Jucato> LjL: not on my system (set aptitude not to install recommends :P )
[03:38] <LjL> sercik: "gksu" is listed as a "recommended" package for Synaptic. apt-get, by default, doesn't install "recommended" packages, but only "dependencies". other front-ends (such as aptitude) do that by default
[03:38] <sercik> ok
[03:38] <LjL> Jucato: ah well, i was talking defaults of course :P
[03:38] <fdoving> sercik: it's not needed to run synaptic. it's just ubuntus way of starting synaptic.
[03:39] <sercik> but aptitude is not good frontend
[03:39] <sercik> not simple to use
[03:39] <fdoving> also, one can configure kdesu to use the su/root password instead of the sudo/user password.
[03:39] <sercik> so i have installed synaptic tha i like much
[03:39] <LjL> fdoving: i assume his problem was that he launched it without any *su* thing whatsoever, and i suppose if it sees it's not root, synaptic tries to launch gksu...
[03:39] <Jucato> LjL, sercik: the K Menu entry for Synaptic has the "Run as different user" enabled, and doesn't use gksudo or kdesu specifically. this means that the it's up to the system to decide whether kdesu or gksudo is installed/being used
[03:40] <sercik> i have learned one new thing "Run as different use"
[03:40] <sercik> i have installed a lot of games like pingus penguin racer-...... but there aren't no shortcut in kde menu
[03:40] <Jucato> sercik: if "Run as different user" is set to blank, the system will assume that you want to run it as root
[03:41] <LjL> sercik: but anyway, just typing "kdesu synaptic" should suffice
[03:41] <Jucato> sercik: some apps really don't get added to the menu
[03:41] <sercik> without doubt
[03:41] <sercik> but noone games i have installed?
[03:41] <Rebecca> sercik: you can add them yourself
[03:41] <LjL> sercik: well, *some* packages do miss a menu entry. otoh, i've sometimes experienced that packages that *do* provide an entry don't have it added until KDE is restarted, for some reason
[03:41] <sercik> thank you ljl
[03:42] <LjL> sercik: well, dunno, let me try the ones you mentioned
[03:42] <Jucato> LjL: no need for a restart. "kbuildsycoca" is enough. I also think that has been fixed in Edgy
[03:42] <fdoving> LjL: that's because the sycoca isn't properly updated. running 'kbuildsycoca --incremental' from the commandline would fix that.
[03:42] <sercik> i thibnk that you are right because i don't think that al lgames doesn't add shortcut
[03:42] <sercik> yes rebecca
[03:42] <LjL> Jucato, fdoving: thank you. yes, i don't think i've seen that anymore in edgy actually
[03:43] <sercik> but if i install ten application together is not symple to make ten shortcut
[03:43] <LjL> (though still, i think i'll keep using ctrl alt backspace ;)
[03:43] <Schuenemann> how do those backports help me? I already have those in my repositories
[03:43] <fdoving> some games only provide a debian-menu menu entry. in that case one needs to install the 'menu' package.
[03:43] <sercik> fdoving explain me better please!
[03:43] <LjL> sercik: pingus and planetpenguin-racer, you said?
[03:43] <Jucato> sercik: there are very few apps that don't get added to the menu, compared to ones that are added
[03:44] <sercik> so i'm stranged noone shortcut appears
[03:44] <LjL> Schuenemann: then "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" should do the trick
[03:44] <Jucato> sercik: usually some of the games I think don't really get added to the menu, unless you do some stuff (like what fdoving mentioned)
[03:44] <Schuenemann> will that install 9?
[03:44] <fdoving> sercik: some apps do not provide a .desktop file, which will make up the menu. some provide a .menu file in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.menu file instead, debian (and then ubuntu too) got a system to read those files and make a menu. to get that menu you need to install the 'menu' package.
[03:44] <LjL> Schuenemann: if you're on Edgy and have backports enabled, yes
[03:44] <Schuenemann> how can I know which version will it install?
[03:44] <Schuenemann> I'm on dapper
[03:45] <LjL> Schuenemann: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[03:45] <LjL> Schuenemann: if you're on dapper, then perhaps seveas has it
[03:45] <LjL> let me look
[03:45] <sercik> if i explore the contect of one package can i understand if and where a shortcut is created?
[03:45] <Jucato> LjL: flash 9 beta 2 available for both dapper and edgy in backports
[03:45] <Seveas> (dapper-backports has it)
[03:45] <LjL> Schuenemann: oh nevermind then. just use backports
[03:45] <Jucato> :)
[03:45] <Schuenemann> but it's 7
[03:45] <fdoving> sercik: it will make a kmenu -> debian submenu with all it's fancy debian-menu stuff.
[03:45] <Schuenemann> <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 0
[03:45] <LjL> Schuenemann: then you don't really have backports enabled
[03:45] <Jucato> Schuenemann: do you have dapper-backports enabled?
[03:46] <LjL> Schuenemann: are you sure there isn't also another version listed?
[03:46] <sercik> i install menu package
[03:46] <Schuenemann> let me see
[03:46] <LjL> sercik, here planetpenguin-racer is added a menu entry in Games / Arcade. i don't see pingus though
[03:47] <sercik> ljl i have installed menu package and some application appeas
[03:47] <LjL> Schuenemann, apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree will list *all* the versions that you have available, including older ones from other non-backports repositories
[03:47] <sercik> appears
[03:47] <Schuenemann> only 7 was listed
[03:47] <LjL> sercik: together with a lot of cruft, i bet =)
[03:47] <LjL> Schuenemann: then you don't have backports enabled, pastedbin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:47] <sercik> thanks to jucato for this hint
[03:48] <Jucato> !pastebin | Schuenemann
[03:48] <ubotu> Schuenemann: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:48] <Schuenemann> I guess I'm wrong
[03:48] <sercik> yes thanks to fdoving i don't remember right
[03:48] <Schuenemann> # deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:48] <Jucato> :)
[03:49] <Schuenemann> this should be uncommented, right?
[03:49] <Jucato> Schuenemann: yep
[03:49] <Jucato> the "sudo apt-get update" or click on Fetch Updates in Adept
[03:49] <sercik> someone could give me the repository for flash on kubuntu edgy
[03:50] <sercik> if i do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree noone package is found
[03:50] <Jucato> sercik: it's in multiverse (Flash 7) and edgy-backports multiverse (Flash 9)
[03:50] <Jucato> !multiverse | sercik
[03:50] <ubotu> sercik: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:50] <sercik> i have multiverse enabled
[03:50] <sercik> but it can't find
[03:50] <Jucato> sercik: I guess you don't have the correct multiverse enable
[03:51] <sercik> could you paste me the correct address?
[03:51] <sercik> i have found it in unofficla ubuntu starter
[03:51] <Jucato> sercik: you have to add the word "multiverse" to the line that looks like "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[03:51] <Jucato> add multiverse, don't replace "universe"
[03:52] <rebecca> okay... installed.. now how do i change the sound device?
[03:52] <Jucato> so that it will look like "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse"
[03:52] <sercik> like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[03:52] <Jucato> yeah that will do
[03:52] <sercik> i have this line but flash-plugin..... is not found
[03:53] <Jucato> sercik: did you just add that recently?
[03:53] <sercik> no
[03:53] <Schuenemann> I added backports and now it lists versions 7 and 9, how do I choose?
[03:53] <sercik> i have already done many upgrade
[03:53] <sercik> and i have done apt-get update
[03:53] <Jucato> hm.. strange...
[03:53] <sercik> i know it's strange
[03:54] <sercik> i can't understand!
[03:54] <fdoving> Schuenemann: the highest version will be preferred. you can select to install a lower version with for example: sudo apt-get install packagename=version
[03:54] <Schuenemann> ok, thank you
[03:54] <Jucato> Schuenemann: you will probably have a notification that updates are available.
[03:54] <shenmue> !postmark
[03:54] <ubotu> postmark: File system benchmark from NetApp. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.51-5 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 68 kB
[03:55] <Jucato> all you need to do is update to get the latest flash
[03:56] <rebecca> anyone? (changing the sound hardware it's set to use)
[03:58] <eMaX_> how comes that adept_manager says that kde is not installed in kubuntu, while I'm obviously using kde
[03:58] <Schuenemann> argh... didn't work, appearently
[03:58] <rebecca> the Kubuntu Device Database has frozen..
[03:58] <Schuenemann> asks for plugin installation whenever I load a site that uses flash
[03:58] <sercik> eMaX_: i have the same problem
[03:59] <sercik> the packages kde are under kde (universe)
[03:59] <eMaX_> which means?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> This version is a testing version, updated daily, and we give no warranty it won't break anything, burn your house,or kill your dog. But it *should* be safe to use anyway.
[03:59] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:59] <sercik> noone have reply to me
[03:59] <fdoving> eMaX_: because kubuntu does not install the whole KDE suite. the package named 'kde' is there to install it all. which we do not do by default.
[04:00] <sercik> fdoving: but also kdelibs appears like noinstalled and that's impossible
[04:00] <fdoving> sercik: that's impossible.
[04:00] <eMaX_> but if I do install it I won't break anything?
[04:01] <fdoving> eMaX_: not sure, haven't tried.
[04:01] <sercik> no it's not impossible
[04:01] <sercik> wait a minute
[04:02] <fdoving> sercik: it's not impossible adept say it's not installed. But I still belive kdelibs is actually installed.
[04:02] <sercik> yes is installed if i do dpkg -l | grep kde is here
[04:03] <m`kay> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/277725 - kubuntu.org-sources are 404 ???
[04:03] <rebecca> i heard about some script that sets up all the non-free codecs.. doesnt seem listed in the faq.. can anyone enlighten me about it?
[04:03] <sercik> i have installed kdelibs 3.5.5-0ubuntu3
[04:04] <sercik> but in synaptic there is 3.80.1-0ubuntu1
[04:04] <eMaX_> anyone already tried 2.6.19 on top of edgy?
[04:04] <fdoving> !automatix | rebecca
[04:04] <ubotu> rebecca: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:04] <m`kay> !easyubuntu | rebecca
[04:04] <ubotu> rebecca: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[04:04] <eMaX_> !easyunbuntu
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easyunbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <rebecca> fdoving: cool. thanks :)
[04:05] <eMaX_> oops
[04:05] <sercik> probably is because is not a kde upgrade but a different version
[04:05] <sercik> in fact if i try to install it removes many kde packages and install other versions
[04:05] <Schuenemann> this damn apt-get didn't install any flash
[04:05] <TheGateKeeper> rebecca, you want the w32codecs?
[04:06] <sercik> Schuenemann: download manually flash
[04:06] <Schuenemann> where can I find it?
[04:06] <Schuenemann> flash 9
[04:06] <sercik> installing is simple i have done so
[04:06] <sercik> wait a minute
[04:06] <Schuenemann> can't find at the adobe site
[04:06] <rebecca> TheGateKeeper: yeah.. eventually.
[04:06] <m`kay> schuenemann wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Flash9
[04:06] <sercik> if you want i can send you the file
[04:07] <TheGateKeeper> rebecca, read the top of my web page: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[04:07] <Schuenemann> someone but that's german!
[04:07] <Schuenemann> oops
[04:07] <Schuenemann> *butt that's german!
[04:07] <Jucato> Schuenemann: what do you mean by it didn't install flash?
[04:07] <sercik> /nickserv register ciccio
[04:07] <Schuenemann> Jucato: I opened a page and it told me to download the plugin
[04:08] <sercik> that's stupid kopete
[04:08] <Jucato> Schuenemann: but you were able to install it using apt-get? are using Konqueror?
[04:08] <rebecca> TheGateKeeper: okay. i think ill get a few other things done first though.... like my sound... anyone know how to change the physical sound device?
[04:08] <sercik> i have done my password to all
[04:08] <Schuenemann> Jucato: firefox... and it said the installation was finished
[04:09] <j_> humm, how do I check if openGL works?
[04:09] <sercik> /nickserv identify ciccio
[04:09] <Jucato> Schuenemann: have you tried to restart firefox?
[04:09] <Schuenemann> Jucato: yes, I closed before installing
[04:09] <Jucato> hm.. strange...
[04:09] <Schuenemann> and now I accidentaly installed 7 again lol
[04:09] <fdoving> sercik: i think it's time to change that password :)
[04:09] <sercik> but i don't understand...
[04:10] <Jucato> Schuenemann: in Firefox, type "about:plugins" and see what Flash version is installed
[04:10] <sercik> kopete doesn't execute /nickserv command?
[04:10] <Jucato> sercik: you're probably typing a blank space before the "/"
[04:10] <Schuenemann> 7... but I installed it accidentaly when it was requested
[04:10] <Schuenemann> anyway, no 9
[04:10] <Jucato> sercik: and I think it should be /msg nickserver....
[04:10] <sercik> /nickserv identify ciccio
[04:10] <sercik> no there is not blank space
[04:10] <Jucato> sercik: try /msg nickserv....
[04:10] <LjL> sercik: i'd change it
[04:11] <sercik> with /msg it open a new private conversation
[04:11] <sercik> yes i will change it
[04:11] <sercik> but i doesn't use kopete anymore
[04:11] <Schuenemann> maybe you should type that in console/status ?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, flash 9 is buggy ...7 is stable and it works
[04:11] <sercik> stupid program GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:12] <Schuenemann> flash 7 does not open youtube
[04:12] <rebecca> Does anyone know how to change the physical device that the sound daemon is using? i need to change mine
[04:12] <BluesKaj> works for me , Schuenemann
[04:12] <sercik> i will return with konversation
[04:12] <Schuenemann> how come?
[04:12] <BluesKaj> about: plugins, in the address bar
[04:13] <BluesKaj> type: about: plugins,   in the address bar
[04:13] <Schuenemann> Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68
[04:13] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj: what about it?
[04:13] <sercik_> l
[04:14] <BluesKaj> application/x-shockwave-flash and application/futuresplash
[04:15] <BluesKaj> you should have both
[04:15] <rebecca> anyone? it's kind of a show stopper for me using kubuntu.......
[04:16] <Schuenemann> yes... in fact, it opened an youtube video now
[04:16] <Schuenemann> but the video was a lot slower than it should be
[04:17] <sercik> i heve changed my password
[04:18] <sercik_> /nickserv
[04:19] <sercik__> /ns
[04:20] <jpiccolo> do you guys know anything about PCI-X?
[04:21] <Schuenemann> !pci-x
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pci-x - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <sercik> /ns
[04:22] <ClayG> hey anyone know the package/kernel name I need to apt to get dual core support?
[04:22] <Schuenemann> sercik: type that on status... it's safer
[04:23] <trappist> ClayG: somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but you get dual core support out of the box
[04:23] <sercik> /i'm trying to learn
[04:23] <sercik> i have added command on strtup in kopete but it doesn't work
[04:23] <sercik> i'm trying on internet on how to configure kopete right
[04:23] <Schuenemann> I don't like kopete
[04:24] <dannybuntu> kopete is great!
[04:24] <Schuenemann> I wonder when there'll be a client like mirc
[04:25] <Jucato> er?
[04:25] <Jucato> Konversation == IRC client
[04:25] <dannybuntu> loool
[04:25] <Schuenemann> but not as configurable as mirc
[04:25] <sercik> mirc works good with wine
[04:25] <Jucato> ??
[04:25] <sercik> now i will try to install it
[04:25] <Jucato> you can automatically identify yourself in Konversation
[04:26] <Schuenemann> can you use aliases, scripts, etc?
[04:26] <Jucato> of course
[04:26] <paulo> hello all
[04:26] <Schuenemann> hmm
[04:26] <rebecca> brb: restarting x... but in the mean time if someone figures out how to change the damn sound device let me know when i return please....
[04:26] <Jucato> Schuenemann: Settings -> COnfigure Konversation -> Command Aliases or Auto Replace
[04:27] <Jucato> for scripts, they can be found/placed in /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts or ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts
[04:27] <Schuenemann> ok
[04:27] <Jucato> you can choose to have your channel tabs at the top, bottom, or left side (tree view)
[04:28] <_norman> question i have an e-tech adsl usb2 modem how can i connect it with linux
[04:28] <Schuenemann> I could configure mirc to ignore actions (/me), is that kind of configuration possible with konversation?
[04:28] <Jucato> that I don't know
[04:29] <Jucato> er sorry
[04:29] <Schuenemann> in some networks, lots of people keep auto-announcing the stupid songs they're listening to :p
[04:30] <rebecca> soooo... anyone figure out my highly complex question.? *sigh*
[04:30] <fdoving> rebecca: did you investigate inside system settings?
[04:30] <fdoving> rebecca: something about sound and devices?
[04:30] <rebecca> fdoving: yes... i have looked there..
[04:31] <fdoving> rebecca: it's there, i don't have a kde desktop around now, can't check.
[04:31] <rebecca> fdoving: the 'hardware' section lets me select which sound server im using.. but i fail to see what that has to do with hardware...
[04:31] <rebecca> ok
[04:32] <rebecca> weird... im supposed to have 3d accel working but glxgears runs super slow..
[04:32] <Nookie^> !w32codecs
[04:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <sercik> rebecca prova glxgears --showfps
[04:33] <sercik> in una console
[04:33] <fdoving> or 'glxinfo | grep -i rendering'
[04:33] <rebecca> sercik: Warrning: unknown parameter: --showfps
[04:34] <fdoving> rebecca: i belive it's one -
[04:34] <rebecca> fdoving: and what am i looking for exactly in the output?
[04:34] <fdoving> rebecca: in the output from 'glxinfo | grep -i rendering' you're looking for Yes or No.
[04:35] <Jucato> rebecca: it should have this "direct rendering: Yes"
[04:35] <rebecca> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[04:35] <rebecca> direct rendering: Yes
[04:36] <rebecca> hmmm.. whatever visual 0x4b is
[04:36] <kwtm> In Kubuntu, where exactly is the trash:// directory shown in the trash can ("recycle bin")?  It's not ~/.Trash or ~/Trash --I checked.
[04:37] <sercik> ah was -printfps
[04:37] <sercik> not showfps excuse me
[04:37] <ragnar_123> hi there!
[04:37] <sercik> rebecca you could also try penguin racer
[04:38] <rebecca> hmm.. is foobilliard not in the normal repos?
[04:38] <LjL> rebecca: IIRC yes
[04:38] <LjL> !foobillard
[04:38] <LjL> !foobilard
[04:38] <ubotu> foobillard: a 3D billiards game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0a-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 976 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foobilard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <LjL> eh, correcting a typo that i didn't make
[04:39] <ragnar_123> any administrator here, who can tell me why am suddenly was banned from #ubuntu yesterday?
[04:39] <rebecca> hmm.. cant find it in the repos......
[04:39] <piotsze> kwtm: "trash:/" in konqi, ".Trash-1000" (hidden) as a folder on each partition
[04:40] <ncaller> rebecca apt-cache search tuxracer
[04:40] <fdoving> ragnar_123: try #ubuntu-ops
[04:40] <rebecca> does ubuntu's repos only have a tiny subset of the packages avail in the deb repos or something?
[04:40] <fdoving> !repos | rebecca
[04:40] <ubotu> rebecca: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:41] <BluesKaj> rebecca, type this in the terminal: fgl_glxgears
[04:41] <ncaller> I get the same message with glxgears on my thinkpad, I also have direct rendering enabled and fps is 1171 avg.
[04:41] <the_hammer> is there away to add an item of my choice to kmenu system tab?
[04:41] <rebecca> BluesKaj: i dont have it installed
[04:42] <ncaller> right-click system choose "edit menu"
[04:43] <ragnar_123> fdoving: thanks
[04:46] <BluesKaj> rebecca, ok , sorry about that .. maybe this site can help you get the right drivers and setup: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_driver
[04:46] <the_hammer> ok this is gonna be tricky to explain but here goes
[04:47] <sercik> rebecca you could visit alberto milone drivers web page
[04:47] <sercik> for me works good
[04:47] <sercik> i have a 7600 GT
[04:49] <the_hammer> i open a term i type in sudo kmenuedit i created a new thing to add to the menu i call super user i have to sudo to see my work in the menu but long story short i wanna add it to the kmenu http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=4dmgmtc
[04:50] <Jucato> the_hammer: why are you running kmenuedit as root?
[04:50] <the_hammer> because i need root privs to do what i wanna do with it
[04:51] <the_hammer> any of u used mepis before?
[04:51] <Jucato> what do you mean? you run kmenuedit as a normal user if you want to see the changes on that user
[04:51] <rebecca> BluesKaj: i think it is installed ok actually... despite the cryptic error. tuxcart + foobillard works fine
[04:51] <Jucato> the_hammer: you want to add a K Menu entry that will launch Konqueror as root?
[04:51] <the_hammer> or seen any distro with a super user file manager in kmenu?
[04:51] <the_hammer> something like that yes
[04:51] <the_hammer> it can be done in mepis
[04:51] <the_hammer> i wanna try and make it work here
[04:52] <Jucato> the_hammer: you don't need to be root to add that in kmenuedit
[04:52] <rebecca> which is certainly a plus compared to my days spent trying to get 3d accel working with debamd64. hehe
[04:52] <humbolt>  how can I quickly get a button in my taskbar which does execute one thing on the first and another on the second click?
[04:52] <Jucato> the_hammer: add a normal entry in K Menu, and for the command, put in "kdesu konqueror"
[04:53] <Jucato> the_hammer: or, just put in "konqueror" then enable/check the "Run as different user" and leave field beneath it as blank
[04:53] <the_hammer> ok i messed something i think...ill trry again and ill be back in a bit
[04:57] <the_hammer> i got it
[04:57] <the_hammer> i found my prob to while i was at it
[04:57] <sercik> to all people tha speak with me about the problem that apt-get for me can't find lflash-plugin nonfree!!
[04:57] <Jucato> flashplugin-nonfree
[04:57] <Dr_willis> !fash
[04:57] <sercik> i have understood the problem: I have 64 bit
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <the_hammer> when i typed the command in term to edit menu out of habbit i did it as root
[04:58] <the_hammer> *slaps self
[04:58] <sercik> and on the universe repo there isn't 64 bit flash
[04:58] <ubuntu> hello
[04:58] <Jucato> the_hammer: which is why I was asking why you were running kmenuedit as root
[04:58] <sercik> noone of us could understand now i have understood the problem
[04:58] <Jucato> sercik: basically because there is not 64 bit Flash at all..
[04:58] <sercik> exact
[04:58] <the_hammer> ya it didnt dawn on me till after
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  i was about to say that. :)
[04:58] <Jucato> sercik: I didn't recall you mentioning you were on 64-bit...
[04:58] <sercik> but before you haven't told me that
[04:58] <Dr_willis> one of th emany reasons i dont mess with 64bit linux yet.
[04:58] <shotglass> i have a question: how do I set my resolution to 1280 by 1024? The maximum res on the LiveCD is 1024 by 768
[04:58] <sercik> but you are good you must arrive yourself :)
[04:59] <shotglass> is that changable
[04:59] <Jucato> sercik: we can't read minds or guess if you're on 32-bit or 64-bit
[04:59] <archangel_> Hey, I just got a media card reader. How do I get it to work with linux
[04:59] <sercik> :)
[04:59] <the_hammer> ok now i can continue to play bbl guys and thanks again
[04:59] <sercik> jucato: i'm joking
[04:59] <Jucato> the_hammer: next time, just right-click on the K Menu and select Menu Editor
[04:59] <shotglass> how do I set my resolution to 1280 by 1024? The maximum res on the LiveCD is 1024 by 768
[04:59] <shotglass> [15:58]  <sercik> but you are good you must arrive yourself :)
[04:59] <shotglass> [15:58]  <shotglass> is that changable
[05:00] <sercik> i'm not good
[05:00] <sercik> i'm here to ask for your help
[05:00] <shotglass> so can i change the resolution while using the LiveCD?
[05:00] <sercik> to all people that need help on 64 bit kubuntu i can help to install firefox32bit with flash and java
[05:01] <mc__>  im trying to compile enlightnement form cvs the autogen script gives me followin error:./autogen.sh: line 10: aclocal: command not found ,what package do you think is missing?
[05:01] <sercik> one question windows vista exists 32 bit version?
[05:01] <shotglass> never mind
[05:01] <crimsun_> sercik: it would be beneficial to write up your help on a wiki page, too.
[05:02] <sercik> the help is already online! but for someone that have a doubt.....
[05:03] <sercik> how many people here call from europe? and from italy?
[05:04] <LjL> !offtopic | sercik
[05:04] <ubotu> sercik: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:04] <LjL> and of course vista exits in a 32 bit version anyway
[05:05] <Schuenemann> I have installed JDK 6, how can I make kubuntu stop using gcj (perhaps even remove it) ?
[05:05] <archangel_> wow never mind it was auto matic
[05:06] <Jucato> Schuenemann: "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[05:06] <archangel_> the icon to the media was right there on my desktop
[05:06] <archangel_> I didnt have to do jack
[05:06] <archangel_> lol
[05:06] <Schuenemann> Jucato: huh... I don't see the installation I just made
[05:07] <Jucato> Schuenemann: you installed jdk or jre?
[05:07] <archangel_> what does this mean?  ----------->   can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:07] <Schuenemann> JDK, but it contains JRE
[05:08] <Jucato> Schuenemann: then there should be a line for Sun Java there
[05:08] <arne> could some one please tell me how to get mpd to recreate th db file?
[05:08] <Schuenemann> there isn't... I swear
[05:08] <Schuenemann> /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[05:08] <Schuenemann> *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[05:09] <Jucato> Schuenemann: how did you install it,btw? apt-get?
[05:09] <sercik> LjL: was only a question don't be so precise!
[05:09] <Schuenemann> no, the shell script at sun's site
[05:09] <Jucato> ah, no wonder...
[05:09] <Jucato> sorry, my knowledge stops there..
[05:09] <Schuenemann> apt-get does not have 6, I think
[05:10] <Jucato>  nope. only 5
[05:10] <Schuenemann> how can I undo the installation?
[05:10] <Schuenemann> whereis javac doesn't return anything, that's strange
[05:12] <dannybuntu> hello all can anyone tell me how to reverse the effect of ./configure?
[05:15] <LjL> dannybuntu: make distclean possibly
[05:15] <LjL> or just remove the directory and untar again :P
[05:15] <dannybuntu> ok will try thanks :)
[05:19] <BluesKaj> what bit torrent client is best in (k)ubuntu ..I'm using azureus , but it seems to stall and lose conns frequently ...any suggestions ?
[05:19] <dannybuntu> ktorrent
[05:19] <rebecca> interesting..i disabled onboard sound and it's still not finding my SBlive
[05:20] <dannybuntu> Blueskaj: Ktorrent looks and feels like utorrent
[05:20] <the_hammer> anyone one here use eye candy?
[05:20] <BluesKaj> dannybuntu, ktorrent seems buggy to me , doesn't launch properly half the time
[05:21] <the_hammer> when i try to d/l liquid weather i friggen kate opens and kills my d/l
[05:21] <the_hammer> why and how to stop?
[05:21] <the_hammer> says something bout binery file and poof d/l dies
[05:22] <dannybuntu> BluesKaj: utorrent works well in wine
[05:22] <makis> hi
[05:22] <the_hammer> wine...ill drink it with ya
[05:22] <makis> anyone tried voipbuster client with wine?
[05:23] <LjL> makis: no, but keep in mind that you can use *any* SIP client with voipbuster (you just need their own client in order to *create* an account)
[05:23] <LjL> !wengophone
[05:23] <ubotu> wengophone: SIP-based software telephone with video and chat features. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99+svn4511-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2280 kB, installed size 4988 kB
[05:23] <LjL> !twinkle
[05:23] <ubotu> twinkle: Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) SIP Phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 1115 kB, installed size 2988 kB
[05:23] <makis> thanks for your answer
[05:23] <LjL> !kphone
[05:23] <ubotu> kphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[05:23] <LjL> makis: the voipbuster site has a "SIP" page when it gives you the parameters to use on the client
[05:24] <makis> but with voipbuster client you can send also sms
[05:24] <rebecca> can anyone tell me how to change my sound device please?
[05:24] <makis> thats why i'd like to use it
[05:24] <LjL> makis: well, i believe you can do that from the web page as well, though
[05:24] <Schuenemann> is there a way to remove GCJ without any side effects? I want to install JDK 6
[05:24] <makis> yeah i'm a little lazy,i know....
[05:24] <makis> however thanks
[05:26] <LjL> makis: not a matter of laziness, but while WINE can be useful at times, i think mostly you should avoid it when you can... it's just unnecessary hassle and eating of resources, isn't it
[05:26] <LjL> Schuenemann: won't update-alternatives suffice?
[05:26] <Schuenemann> the sun jdk isn't listed there...
[05:26] <Schuenemann> I installed using the shell script from sun's website
[05:27] <makis> i agree on that
[05:27] <rebecca> doesn't anyone have a clue how to setup sound?!
[05:27] <Jucato> LjL: he installed Java 6 from java.com
[05:27] <LjL> oh, nevermind then
[05:27] <Schuenemann> why installing things have to be a pain? =/
[05:28] <LjL> makis: also, WengoPhone supports SMS sending - but i don't know if it's a Wengo specific feature, or something general to SIP that will work with VoipBuster as well
[05:28] <LjL> Schuenemann: it doesn't if you get them from the repositories :-P which, admittedly, don't have java 6
[05:28] <vado> Bonsoir tout le monde
[05:28] <Schuenemann> yeah... that's a problem
[05:29] <Schuenemann> I installed from another distro that didn't come with gcj and it worked fine
[05:29] <Schuenemann> isn't there a manual way of adding an entry to update-alternatives?
[05:36] <The_Machine> dumb question, yeah..  where can i find my floppy?
[05:36] <The_Machine> i'm not seeing it under media.
[05:37] <The_Machine> how might i mount it, or be able to make it so i can use it? :)
[05:41] <tenco> kann mir mal jemand sagen warum psi in der ubuntu version nur jabber kann? o_O
[05:44] <Schuenemann> !nl | tenco
[05:44] <ubotu> tenco: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[05:44] <BluesKaj> !de
[05:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:44] <tenco> ups, sorry
[05:45] <tenco> false channel XD
[05:47] <rebecca> how do i manually setup sound? :/
[05:48] <crimsun_> rebecca: more context, please?
[05:49] <rebecca> crimsun_: it's not detecting my PCI SBlive
[05:49] <rebecca> so i guess i need to set it up manually
[05:49] <crimsun_> what's the output from ``asoundconf list''?
[05:49] <weswh-> is it possible to run openssh off of the livecd? i am trying to figure out a way to get some data off of a drive onto my laptop (before i install the system). not sure what tools are at my disposal just with the livecd. ssh would work perfectly, but given it's not even installed by default i doubt it is there?
[05:49] <rebecca> there is none
[05:49] <crimsun_> none?
[05:50] <crimsun_> what's ``cat /proc/asound/cards''?
[05:50] <zorbas> hi
[05:50] <rebecca> No such file or directory
[05:51] <crimsun_> rebecca: pastebin your ``lspci -v && lspci -nv''
[05:52] <zorbas> hey guys which distribution is best for newbie : kubuntu or suse ?
[05:52] <Schuenemann> both are nice, in my opinion
[05:52] <Schuenemann> but suse is heavier
[05:52] <BluesKaj> kubuntu...suse has a terrible pkg sources setup
[05:52] <Jucato> you're asking in a #kubuntu channel?
[05:52] <zorbas> i've installed suse but it seems to complicated to me
[05:52] <zorbas> :)
[05:53] <weswh-> i wouldn't say suse is 'complicated', apt-get is much nicer for packages as mentioned
[05:53] <zorbas> i simply asking
[05:53] <Schuenemann> if it seems complicated, try slackware :D
[05:53] <Schuenemann> you can install apt-get in suse
[05:53] <zorbas> slackware ?
[05:53] <zorbas> what is apt-get ?
[05:53] <weswh-> but you won't be able to use the debian/ubuntu packages
[05:54] <weswh-> i meant overall, i wasn't impressed with suse packages. but, i'm rather new myself.
[05:54] <Jucato> apt-get is the program for the APT package manager in Debian, Kubuntu, and others
[05:54] <Schuenemann> and suse is 5 cds... kubuntu is only 1
[05:54] <Jucato> Schuenemann: disadvantage: you need a good internet connection to install other stuff
[05:54] <zorbas> yes is really big
[05:54] <Schuenemann> yeah... right
[05:55] <crimsun_> rebecca: tell us the url when you've pasted it.
[05:55] <rebecca> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/wWbPGt14.html
[05:55] <Jucato> the premise with Kubuntu's 1 CD is that it contains everything you need to run a normal, "free" desktop
[05:55] <Schuenemann> but the programs in those cds become old quickly
[05:55] <megapig> change res 1280*800 anyone?
[05:55] <rebecca> crimsun_: pastbin was being weird
[05:55] <crimsun_> rebecca: paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[05:56] <rebecca> crimsun_: no
[05:59] <ultm8> hey up folks
[05:59] <ultm8> have a real simple question for u linux gurus
[06:00] <ultm8> i just cannot get my head around how to moving files out of a folder to another folder using the terminal
[06:00] <ultm8> can some1 give me an example
[06:00] <Schuenemann> type cd directory
[06:00] <Schuenemann> like cd /home
[06:00] <ultm8> yes
[06:00] <rebecca> ultm8: man mv
[06:00] <Schuenemann> ahh mov
[06:00] <Schuenemann> move... sorry
[06:01] <ultm8> yeah sure i know its mv <--- but how do i move the files within the folder and not the folder itself? do i have to move each file seperately?
[06:02] <ultm8> for example i have 10 files in LINUX folder
[06:02] <VSpike> if you want to move the files in the folder, cd into into it and do "mv * /some/new/place"
[06:02] <ultm8> the star with do it?
[06:02] <ultm8> :o)
[06:02] <Jucato> yes
[06:02] <Jucato> * = "everything"
[06:02] <rebecca> use wildcards with caution...
[06:02] <ultm8> i had a sneaking suspicion :o) thx Jucato
[06:02] <Jucato> actually it means "all files"
[06:03] <ultm8> u can sleep well 2night knowing u did a good deed
[06:03] <ultm8> hehehe
[06:03] <VSpike> ultm8: yes. And you can be more specific, e.g. "mv file* /some/new/place" which would move anything starting with "file", e.g. file123, filexyz, file.txt
[06:03] <rebecca> Jucato: and directories (which are really just another kind of file i know)
[06:03] <ultm8> 1 sec will just try it
[06:03] <ultm8> quality
[06:03] <Jucato> rebecca: depends on the command. afaik cp and rm don't work with directories unless you specify -r
[06:04] <ultm8> i want to move all folders and files within the folder
[06:04] <rebecca> true.. but we are talking about the wildcard not the specific command
[06:04] <ultm8> so would it be sudo mv * -r /home/blar/blar etc
[06:04] <Jucato> rebecca: I meant that * in cp and rm doesn't include folders, afaik
[06:04] <Jucato> ultm8: no need for the -r
[06:05] <ultm8> oki doki
[06:05] <ultm8> here we go then
[06:05] <ultm8> i will get back to u
[06:05] <ultm8> 1 sec
[06:05] <rebecca> ultm8: read the man page.. it's explained quite well
[06:05] <delan> Algum do Brasil?
[06:05] <Jucato> !br
[06:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:05] <eeos> how do I switch to text install, because my screen goes blank?
[06:06] <ultm8> guys thx soooo dam much
[06:06] <ultm8> finally
[06:06] <VSpike> ultm8: you can use mv to rename files too
[06:06] <rebecca> im going to crash for the night.. if anyone has a clue about manually setting up the hardware sound device (yes i sound like a broken record but noone seems to have a clue). then please Private message me with info.
[06:06] <VSpike> mv oldname newname
[06:06] <ultm8> well done give urselves a big bat on the back ;o)
[06:06] <eeos> can I install from the iso to my hard disk without cd and without floppy?
[06:06] <mc__> !ati
[06:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:07] <eeos> !iso
[06:07] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[06:07] <eeos> !install
[06:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:08] <ultm8> now i can install joomla @ long last
[06:08] <ultm8> hehehe or next steop
[06:08] <ultm8> step
[06:08] <ultm8> in the last 15minutes i learnt how to moves files using ssh to my server and to move files from folders only
[06:08] <ultm8> u guys rock thx
[06:10] <eeos> I would like to install on a laptop through the internet, fetching files from the main repository, but I have no floppy and no cdrom
[06:10] <Jucato> ultm8: couldn't do it from a GUI?
[06:10] <eeos> can I do it?
[06:10] <The_Machine> heh
[06:10] <The_Machine> hehe
[06:12] <ultm8> erm no jucato
[06:12] <Jucato> why?
[06:12] <ultm8> my server has no gui
[06:12] <mefisto__> What are kernel headers? I've been googling this and getting more and more puzzled. Is there a simple answer?
[06:12] <ultm8> and for some reason i cannot connect via the graphical interface on my localmachine
[06:12] <Jucato> sftp:// in Konqueror?
[06:13] <ultm8> hold on i will give that a go
[06:13] <ultm8> am actually using ubuntu
[06:13] <ultm8> not kubutu
[06:13] <ultm8> but the ubuntu folks weren't very helpful ;o)
[06:13] <ultm8> might go back to good old kde though ;o)
[06:15] <Jucato> ah
[06:16] <Jucato> well....
[06:16] <Jucato> don't know how to do that in Ubuntu...
[06:16] <delphine_> hello people
[06:16] <crimsun_> rebecca: any update on the paste?
[06:16] <ultm8> yeah i think its the same
[06:17] <ultm8> tried using natilus
[06:17] <delphine_> I have a question concerning unmounting the partitions at shutdown. But I may be totally wrong about the whole thing anyway.
[06:17] <ultm8> but for some reason my password fails eeeck!
[06:17] <ultm8> yes
[06:18] <ultm8> i done it
[06:18] <ultm8> thx jucato u taught me something else
[06:18] <Jucato> ??
[06:18] <delphine_> Admiral_Chicago: you around?
[06:18] <ultm8> hahaha am on a learning streak
[06:18] <Jucato> what did I teach you? sftp on Nautilus?
[06:19] <ultm8> if i type in sftp://username@ip in natilus i can graphically enter my remote machine
[06:19] <ultm8> hehehe
[06:19] <ultm8> sftp
[06:19] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine_: sorry no, major paper due in 40 minutes
[06:19] <Jucato> yeah
[06:19] <ultm8> in natilus
[06:19] <ultm8> yeah
[06:19] <delphine_> Admiral_Chicago: ok
[06:19] <Jucato> works in KOnqueror too
[06:19] <delphine_> Admiral_Chicago: may the force be with you
[06:19] <ultm8> also taught u something too natilus u can do it in there
[06:19] <Admiral_Chicago> ty
[06:19] <ultm8> was trying in my webrowser @ 1st
[06:19] <Admiral_Chicago> delphine_: PM me if you wish
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll be awy 3 hours though
[06:20] <delphine_> Admiral_Chicago: naa, i'll let you work
[06:20] <delphine_> thx :)
[06:20] <ultm8> yeah i know konqueror works, but never used it ;o) i think konqueror is far superior to gnome
[06:20] <ultm8> loads more functions
[06:20] <ultm8> but gnome is a nicer smoother environment
[06:21] <Jucato> ultm8: I didn't know it worked the same in Nautilus, tbh :)
[06:21] <ultm8> but kde has loads more functionality
[06:21] <ultm8> well we all learn together
[06:21] <ultm8> heheh
[06:21] <ultm8> i cannot believe am logged into my other computer via this 1
[06:22] <ultm8> that is sooo cool
[06:22] <ultm8> hahaha
[06:22] <ultm8> noob excitement
[06:22] <Jucato> :)
[06:22] <CVirus> !nvidia
[06:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <ultm8> thats sooo handy
[06:22] <ultm8> was worried because lateron i need to move more files over
[06:23] <ultm8> and now no more worries
[06:23] <ultm8> i think i wil still give the command line priority
[06:23] <Jucato> yep. it's always good to learn the CLI counterpart
[06:24] <ultm8> ok buddy i have to go now
[06:24] <ultm8> gotta go pick up the mrs
[06:24] <ultm8> but i will be back
[06:24] <ultm8> take care and thx 4 ur helps peeps
[06:24] <ultm8> Jucato the *
[06:24] <Jucato> hehe
[06:33] <derekS> hi. iI am trying to upgrade from dapper->edgy, and it is giving me problems with koffice-libs... i couldn't find any issues on launchpad/forums...any suggestions?
[06:34] <derekS> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-libs_1%3a1.5.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/krossrunner', which is also in package koshell
[06:34] <derekS> thats the error
[06:34] <raphink> uninstall koshell
[06:34] <raphink> run apt-get update
[06:34] <raphink> and reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[06:34] <raphink> see if that fixes it
[06:35] <derekS> uninstall via apt or dpkg?
[06:35] <raphink> either
[06:36] <derekS> can i "--ignore-depends=koffice"
[06:36] <derekS> because otherwise i can't uninstall
[06:37] <raphink> how do  you mean you can't uninstall?
[06:38] <derekS> apt wouldn't do it
[06:38] <derekS> so i needed dpkg
[06:38] <derekS> i did it with dpkg... works now :)
[06:39] <raphink> ok
[06:40] <BluesKaj> what gives : ?   /home/user/.local/share/Trash/files/xawtv-3.95/arch-i686-linux/config.log ...won't trash this file !
[06:43] <raphink> BluesKaj: is that a question?
[06:45] <_pte> hello. can I somehow install kubuntu edgy without reformating the partition? (something like copy this, set this and it will work..)
[06:46] <delphine_> huh, what did you have on the partition before?
[06:46] <raphink> you can _pte
[06:46] <_pte> I've got one single partition, but with some data on it..
[06:46] <_pte> (it's ext3)
[06:46] <raphink> but if you ask this, I doubt you will manage to do it
[06:47] <eloquence_> sup every1
[06:47] <delphine_> raphink: heh
[06:47] <_pte> so can I just copy it and set lilo (or grup)?
[06:47] <raphink> _pte: why not save the data, install and put the data back on the partition?
[06:47] <raphink> _pte: this is what the desktop CD does almost
[06:47] <raphink> _almost_
[06:47] <eloquence_> speaing of partitions anybody know about triple booting? XP,Ubuntu, BackTrack
[06:48] <raphink> eloquence_: it's just like double booting
[06:48] <dom> morning, everyone!
[06:48] <chriskelly> hi all, I have a question that's probably obvious but I haven't been able to figure it out for the last couple of weeks
[06:48] <raphink> except you add another entry to menu.lst
[06:48] <chriskelly>  I am recently upgraded to kubuntu edgy eft and the bluetooth supports seems much better but...
[06:48] <_pte> thanks
[06:48] <dom> !wireless > dom
[06:48] <chriskelly> I can't figure out how to pair a device
[06:48] <megapig> why does most of my programs start to malfunction?
[06:49] <raphink> megapig: do you expect an answer?
[06:49] <megapig> dunno lol
[06:49] <megapig> Amarok won't start anymore
[06:49] <eloquence_> raphink th eprob is that when backtrack installs itself it takes over the MBR and i cant even get into Windows
[06:49] <megapig> anyone know how to fic it?
[06:49] <megapig> fix*
[06:49] <eloquence_> I wanna stick with ubuntu's GRUB at boot
[06:49] <raphink> eloquence_: then install windows first, then backtrack and then linux
[06:49] <raphink> eloquence_: or just reset grub after all installs
[06:50] <raphink> megapig: you're not giving much info
[06:50] <eloquence_> I have an NTFS part for Xp and an ext3 part for Linux which I split into three parts... 5gb ubuntu, 5gb BackTrack 500mb Swap
[06:50] <eloquence_> I aint reinstalling windows :-) and I might reinstall ubuntu since I screwed it up trying to install ieee80211
[06:50] <raphink> ok
[06:51] <eloquence_> I have 6.06 but for some reason, it shows that ieee80211-1.1.11 is installed but ipw3945 wasn't finding it so I tried installing a seperate ieee80211 and it blew my wireless card away
[06:51] <raphink> wow backtracks developers hvae a pretty high opinion of themselves
[06:51] <raphink> :)
[06:51] <_pte> eloquence> i usually boot some live cd, mount linux partition, chroot it and type lilo
[06:51] <eloquence_> its actually kubuntu that I have, but yea... I got screwed
[06:51] <raphink> "Combining the best features from both distributions, and paying special attention to small details, this is probably the best version of either distributions to ever come out."
[06:52] <eloquence_> backTrack devs has a buncha potato chips up their butt
[06:52] <raphink> beah, lilo
[06:52] <eloquence_> they dont wanna break them
[06:53] <_pte> but if u r uber hacker like me, u can hack xp boot loader to load linux :-)
[06:53] <chriskelly> Is there a 'Pair a new device' option anywhere does anyone know or should I install an extra package?
[06:53] <eloquence_> _pte... i am still not too linux proficient... my windows bloodlevel is still over 90%
[06:53] <eloquence_> i am ubernoober
[06:53] <eloquence_> we are a new breed ;)
[06:53] <delphine_> ;)
[06:54] <raphink> eloquence_: what's special about backtrack?
[06:54] <eloquence_> should i just try downloading Edgy?
[06:54] <eloquence_> raph... i just wanted it for the security stuff
[06:54] <eloquence_> to mess around with wireless
[06:54] <raphink> ok
[06:55] <eloquence_> here in Saudi Arabia its hard to find decent broadband ... there are a few places that have it where i wanna try to get into it... i can also use it to maybe help the ppl secure their wireless (make money on the side)
[06:55] <eloquence_> i am doomed to use dial-up .. so .. yeah, wanna get into some unused wireless broadband whenever i can
[06:56] <_pte> buee, dial-up
[06:56] <_pte> "unused wireless broadband" :-)  lol
[06:57] <eloquence_> yea saudis are lame
[06:57] <eloquence_> they pay for expensive connections
[06:57] <eloquence_> then put them in their businesses or hotels knowng no1 will use them
[06:57] <eloquence_> and put passwords on them
[06:57] <eloquence_> might as well use what they r paying for an dmaybe help them to stop others like me ;)
[06:58] <eloquence_> if Dapper wasn't acting so gay... I woulda been able to use my ipw3945 correctly and never go to BackTrck
[06:58] <eloquence_> a 2.7gb install just to use some wireless tools OOTB :(
[06:59] <smaggard> hey
[06:59] <_pte> try slack, it's small and you can add some modules, but never tryed it
[07:00] <eloquence_> i dont really wanna stray to far from ubuntusince it is better for windows kiddies like me
[07:00] <eloquence_> but... i also wanna be bale to use all the hhardware built into my laptop
[07:00] <scion_> hi
[07:00] <eloquence_> it's bad enough i have a winmodem and cant use it for dial-up
[07:00] <eloquence_> but when i am also not able to use my wireless... i feel a bit screwed
[07:01] <_pte> unconnected...
[07:01] <scion_> when i try mount my usb stick i get the following: An unknow error occured... help!
[07:02] <eloquence_> yea .. uber-unconnected
[07:02] <_pte> scion> can u open terminal and dmesg | tail ?
[07:03] <scion_> _pte: yes i can
[07:03] <_pte> to anyone creating iso boot images> can u optimize somehow layout of data on the CD? I want to use my DVD drive again after I boot!
[07:04] <_pte> scion> and is there some error, or something?
[07:04] <chriskelly> bluetooth
[07:04] <scion_> _pte: there does not appear to be any error
[07:04] <chriskelly> sorry (meant to do a search)
[07:05] <scion_> _pte: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36858/
[07:09] <_pte> scion_> it looks normal to me, don't know ubuntu much, but I usually mount devices by hand when GUI magic doesn't work
[07:09] <scion_> i'm kubuntu dude
[07:12] <_pte> scion_> just mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/floppy or somewhere else and it should work. maybe some another initiative application tryed to mount it or something (it somethimes happened to me under kde)
[07:12] <scion_> _pte: check it out now!! - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36859/
[07:13] <_pte> scion_> ??. and you can read it under windows?
[07:14] <scion_> yes, without problems
[07:14] <scion_> and i even did a chkdisk just in case
[07:14] <scion_> this memory stick is FAT32
[07:14] <delphine_> ok, I need help on accessing my ext3 partition with Windows
[07:15] <delphine_> anyone can help?
[07:15] <delphine_> ie. I need to make sure that the ext3 partition is cleanly unmounted when I quit linux
[07:16] <_pte> scion_>have no idea
[07:16] <delphine_> so that window can access with the Ext2 Installable File System for Windows
[07:16] <scion_> ok cheers anyway
[07:24] <_pte> why when I open / in konqueror, I see just home, media, rofs, but I can chdir to everywhere from address bar (in livecd)?
[07:24] <Rob-West> hows everyone
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[07:27] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[07:27] <Dr_willis> _pte,  thats a 'feature' that seems to be getting removed soon. :)
[07:29] <_pte> maybe just remove it for root (and why the .... there's not mc on the livecd? ok, prepared for 100+ cp and mv and mkdir..)
[07:29] <Authority> in kdmrc, on the ServerCmd line, what is the -br option that is used when starting X?
[07:30] <zorglu_> _pte: I see just home, media, rofs <- what is this 'rofs' ?
[07:30] <_pte> aha, thanks for link
[07:31] <zorglu_> !rofs
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <_pte> isn't it something from livecd?
[07:32] <zorglu_> oh they mean 'read only file system' ?
[07:33] <zorglu_> !search rofs
[07:33] <ubotu> Found:
[07:33] <triki> Retrieving Data.... Please Wait....
[07:34] <zorglu_> ok i will know another day :)
[07:36] <_pte> how can I create /dev directory?
[07:37] <zorglu_> "mkdir /dev" but it is unlikely you want to do that
[07:37] <zorglu_> as it most likely already exist
[07:37] <zorglu_> and it has a very constrained content
[07:37] <_pte> no, i'm manually installing kubuntu
[07:37] <buzzy> !version
[07:37] <buzzy> how can i know my version of ubuntu?
[07:38] <zorglu_> there is a command for that
[07:38] <zorglu_> but i dont remember which one
[07:38] <zorglu_> lmb/freedesktop kindof stuff
[07:38] <eloquence_> buzzy
[07:38] <eloquence_> go to terminale
[07:38] <eloquence_> and type uname --help
[07:38] <buzzy> ok
[07:38] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[07:39] <eloquence_> uname -r will show u what kernel u have
[07:39] <zorglu_> ahh a misterious answered :)
[07:39] <buzzy> guys now i want to know if i have ubuntu breezy or whatever version!!
[07:39] <buzzy> :D
[07:39] <zorglu_> buzzy: <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[07:39] <zorglu_> this was the command i was thinking about
[07:39] <eloquence_> breezy is 5.04 i think
[07:39] <eloquence_> 6.06 is dapper
[07:39] <eloquence_> edgy is 6.10
[07:39] <buzzy> ok
[07:43] <NapalmSMiles> um how do i configue glx?  3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[07:43] <NapalmSMiles> or whatever it is that needs configuring?
[07:44] <zorglu_> !xxgl
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xxgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <zorglu_> !xgl
[07:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:45] <NapalmSMiles> also what the apt-get for installing the xwindows base files?
[07:46] <angasule> zorglu_: xgl != glx
[07:46] <angasule> !opengl
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <eloquence_> try #ubutu
[07:47] <angasule> NapalmSMiles: do you have an nvidia card? ati? intel?
[07:47] <NapalmSMiles> not sure its a laptop,and i didint keep the orginal info
[07:47] <zorglu_> NapalmSMiles: you try to install the 3d desktop stuff, no ?
[07:47] <NapalmSMiles> and the make/models wore off the bottom
[07:47] <NapalmSMiles> yup
[07:47] <zorglu_> an
[07:48] <zorglu_> angasule: i guess it was rather xgl then :)
[07:48] <angasule> NapalmSMiles: try 'lspci' in a console, it will tell you a bunch of PCI stuff in your laptop, maybe you can figure out what you have
[07:48] <zorglu_> "lspci | grep VGA" <- type that
[07:48] <zorglu_> as angasule saidf
[07:48] <angasule> zorglu_: 3ddesktop is an application, it is NOT xgl
[07:48] <zorglu_> angasule: hhehe :)
[07:49] <angasule> zorglu_: 3ddesktop needs just opengl, it's not related to compiz, beryl or any of that, it's just a neat virtual desktop switcher
[07:49] <zorglu_> angasule: pfff
[07:49] <zorglu_> sure
[07:49] <NapalmSMiles> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev                                                              01)
[07:49] <zorglu_> angasule: you are having a bad day i guess :)
[07:49] <NapalmSMiles> is that it?
[07:49] <angasule> I had 3ddesktop running, but beryl is much more impressive so I use that when people visit :P
[07:50] <NapalmSMiles> whats berly?im just loking for eye candy
[07:50] <zorglu_> NapalmSMiles: yep this is your model of graphic card
[07:50] <NapalmSMiles> !berly
[07:50] <angasule> NapalmSMiles: that's an integrated card, yes
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <NapalmSMiles> !beryl
[07:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:50] <angasule> NapalmSMiles: you must get OpenGL working on your laptop before using any eye candy stuff
[07:51] <NapalmSMiles> apt-get install opengl?
[07:51] <zorglu_> "glxinfo | grep render" <- type that in a terminal NapalmSMiles
[07:51] <imbrandon>
[07:52] <NapalmSMiles> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[07:52] <_pte> do i need /lib/udev/devices? how can I copy it?
[07:52] <NapalmSMiles> Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[07:52] <NapalmSMiles>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[07:52] <NapalmSMiles> Serial number of failed request:  16
[07:52] <zorglu_> NapalmSMiles: you cant do 'glxinfo' ? you got problem in the install already
[07:52] <NapalmSMiles> Current serial number in output stream:  17
[07:53] <buz> anyone using the edgy kernel updates from today? they wont boot for me
[07:53] <zorglu_> _pte: you are sure you handling something adapted to your current skills ?
[07:53] <zorglu_> _pte: i mean to install manually kubuntu is VERY HARD :)
[07:53] <_pte> but is's fun :-)
[07:53] <zorglu_> enougth for me to say that i dont know anybody able to do :)
[07:53] <NapalmSMiles> i just tried again in root:
[07:53] <NapalmSMiles> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:54] <NapalmSMiles> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:54] <NapalmSMiles> rror: unable to open display (null)
[07:54] <zorglu_> NapalmSMiles: the issue is the X driver, not the user from which you run the command
[07:54] <zorglu_> $ glxinfo | grep render
[07:54] <zorglu_> direct rendering: Yes
[07:54] <zorglu_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Radeon 20050528 AGP 4x NO-TCL
[07:54] <zorglu_> you should get something like that
[07:54] <zorglu_> the important part being the Yes :)
[07:54] <NapalmSMiles> so what do i have to do?
[07:55] <zorglu_> maybe try to boot X without xgl
[07:55] <angasule> NapalmSMiles: you might want to check in #ubuntu and the ubuntu and kubuntu email lists
[07:56] <nuxil> hey has anyone played with Kommander ?
[07:56] <zorglu_> dont forget google :)))))))
[07:56] <nuxil> #join #kde
[07:56] <nuxil> erm
[07:57] <NapalmSMiles> um wait i need the x base system installed right?
[07:57] <zorglu_> NapalmSMiles: well sure
[07:57] <zorglu_> NapalmSMiles: what are you running on ?
[07:57] <zorglu_> NapalmSMiles: you dont have X ?
[07:57] <NapalmSMiles> dose that come normally with kubuntu?
[07:58] <NapalmSMiles> sorry im still new
[07:58] <zorglu_> NapalmSMiles: yes :) X is what display the windows on the screen
[07:58] <NapalmSMiles> lol ok
[07:58] <wayne_1980> hello all
[07:59] <zorglu_> hmm ok lets try "   xvinfo | grep "number of ports"       " <- put that in a console NapalmSMiles
[07:59] <zorglu_> wayne_1980: hello
[07:59] <wayne_1980> hi zorglu, howz u?
[08:00] <BluesKaj> ok , dumped azureus.. the new version of KTorrent is much more stable and it stays connected ...YES!
[08:00] <NapalmSMiles> same as before,
[08:00] <sercik> hi again
[08:01] <sercik> i use dpkg -l to see which are the package installed
[08:01] <NapalmSMiles> should something go where "number of ports" is?
[08:01] <zorglu_> $ xvinfo | grep "number of ports"
[08:01] <zorglu_>     number of ports: 1
[08:01] <zorglu_> you should get something like that
[08:01] <sercik> could someone explain what rc means
[08:01] <zorglu_> rc = release candidate
[08:02] <zorglu_> well it is one possible meaning at least :)
[08:03] <_pte> real crap?
[08:03] <ev1lm1nd666> repeat code?
[08:05] <NapalmSMiles> frost wire slows my computer down like crazy,it starts a process called java that takes up 30-60% of my resources.anyone have a seuggestion for a diffrent p2p?
[08:05] <sercik> please be serious
[08:05] <sercik> rc is not release candidate
[08:05] <buzzy> !ntfsresize
[08:05] <angasule> sercik: 'rc', in software, means release candidate
[08:05] <sercik> i try to remove a program and dpkg say that is not installed but only configuration file
[08:05] <buzzy> !ntfsresize
[08:05] <buzzy> !ntfsresize
[08:05] <buzzy> !ntfsresize
[08:05] <buzzy> !ntfsresize
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <sercik> are present
[08:06] <angasule> sercik: oh, yeah, some files have an .rc extension as well
[08:06] <zorglu_> sercik: well provide more info in your question, you may get more suitable answre :)
[08:06] <sercik> so it tell to use --purge
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <zorglu_> buzzy: avoid the spammin please
[08:06] <ev1lm1nd666> rc= root comand?
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <NapalmSMiles> retarded computer
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <LjL> !ops
[08:06] <NapalmSMiles> !rc
[08:06] <sercik> and when i use --purge and then try again dpkg -l the package doesn't appers anymore
[08:06] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[08:06] <ubotu> rc: an implementation of the AT&T Plan 9 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-3 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 184 kB
[08:06] <angasule> rc has a thousand meanings
[08:07] <sercik> STOP
[08:07] <sercik> rc is in the output of command dpkg -l
[08:07] <angasule> I always think rc == Remote Controlled, and it helps me remember the order in which mathematical matrices are specified, (row, column)
[08:07] <tsdgeos> lol, ubotu asked for help :D
[08:08] <sercik> zorglu_: have you understoof?
[08:08] <sercik> zorglu_: have you understood?
[08:08] <zorglu_> sercik: yep you want the meaning of the .rc suffix generally used for configuration file
[08:08] <zorglu_> sercik: and this is a good question :) i have no idea:)
[08:08] <sercik> packages not installed but leave something on hd?
[08:09] <sorush20> hi..
[08:09] <zorglu_> sercik: nope what is left is the config files
[08:09] <sorush20> kubuntu is k3b is check sum and I don't really know what to do after that?
[08:09] <zorglu_> sercik: and the config files happens to has a .rc in their name
[08:09] <sorush20> I get a value but I'm not sure if its correct .. what is the subcheck?
[08:10] <sercik> it is possile to know when i use apt-get install package from which repo packade is downloaded
[08:10] <zorglu_> http://docs.hp.com/en/B9106-90008/rc.1M.html <- sercik it is the same rc kindof stuff
[08:11] <zorglu_> sercik: yep, use 'apt-cache policy yourpackagename'
[08:13] <sorush20> !sum
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <sorush20> what is the sum check for the kubuntu iso
[08:14] <zorglu_> sorush20: it check if the cd is properly burned
[08:14] <zorglu_> aka if the disk is not corrupted
[08:14] <zorglu_> !md5
[08:14] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:15] <zorglu_> i guess the first url explains it
[08:20] <janos_> hi
[08:21] <sercik> someone have 32 bit ubuntu could send me some files?
[08:21] <sercik> i need to use mplayer32 on 64 bit kubuntu
[08:22] <janos_> bocs de csak magyarul beszlek :D
[08:22] <zorglu_> !hu
[08:22] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[08:22] <buzzy> guys please help me: i open gparted but it shows me /dev/hda1 witha "!" ==> it says that gparted can't read filesystem (it is windows 2000 filessyetm) how can i resize that partition? please answer me whatever you know!! :D
[08:22] <janos_> ok
[08:22] <janos_> thx
[08:22] <zorglu_> !resize
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <zorglu_> !msg ubotu resize
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu resize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <_pte> !ntfs
[08:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:23] <_pte> !ntfsresize
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsresize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <zorglu_> ok it is somewhere in there :)
[08:23] <zorglu_> there are some tools to resize ntfs
[08:23] <zorglu_> and they are described in the wiki
[08:26] <RealisticDragon> heh hfs+ might be a pain but at least Linux can read it :P
[08:26] <zorglu_> http://nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm <- the stuff about ntfs resize
[08:32] <sorush20> how do I make sure there are no error in the iso of kubuntu that I have downloaded?
[08:32] <zorglu_> you run the checksum on it :)
[08:32] <zorglu_> !md5
[08:32] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:32] <zorglu_> the first link is for you :)
[08:33] <RealisticDragon> pfft real men burn the CD and wait for 99% of the install to go by to discover it's broken ;P
[08:34] <oslo> RealisticDragon> did u check md5sum before :D ?
[08:35] <RealisticDragon> to be honest, uh, no... im always too lazy, but i have been lucky so far :) only one bad one in a decade or so
[08:36] <RealisticDragon> can anyone remember what the trawling for imagess software is called? the one that will watch your lan segment for traffic... the name escapes me
[08:36] <RealisticDragon> oh, driftnet, nm :)
[08:37] <michelleindeed> okay, i'm a moron, i swear. i am trying to upgrade skype and i am having serious issues...
[08:37] <michelleindeed> although in my opinion skype is crap anyhow
[08:38] <RealisticDragon> skype is a static binary right? so, you just unpack click and away you go... or did they change it?
[08:38] <_kuja_> Well, they've got debs too
[08:38] <zorglu_> well if you dont like the software, no need to install it then :)
[08:39] <michelleindeed> eh, i've decided to do it so now i'm going to have to
[08:39] <zorglu_> if you go against my solutions, stuff wont be as smooth :)
[08:39] <michelleindeed> i have issues with my mic anyhow so i figure i may as well upgrade it before i bother fixing the mic..
[08:39] <RealisticDragon> zorglu_: not heard of the girfriend imperative then? ;)
[08:39] <_kuja_> download the deb ... dpkg -r skype && dpkg -i *.deb?
[08:40] <michelleindeed> i'm downloading the deb pkg
[08:41] <_pte> btw. when u boot livecd in safe vga mode and select 640x480, the boot screen is not resized and u cannot see any messages under the progress bar, which should be fixed
[08:41] <_kuja_> _pte, if you're talking about edgy, you won't see any messages, safe mode or not.
[08:42] <_pte> and press enter to reboot is not message? ;-)
[08:42] <_kuja_> Of course not :D
[08:43] <michelleindeed> it's saying something about the utility not being in my PATH
[08:43] <_kuja_> pastebin it?
[08:43] <michelleindeed> ?
[08:43] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:44] <michelleindeed> well, it's not all that large. it just says error - ark, because it opens ark when i click on it.
[08:44] <michelleindeed> and then says that ^
[08:44] <_kuja_> that's okay, it needn't be opened with ark anyway ...
[08:45] <michelleindeed> i absolutely forgot what to do
[08:45] <_kuja_> jeeze ... kde takes forever to compile :o
[08:46] <RealisticDragon> hah i used to run gentoo on a 1 ghz celeron, i know the pain :)
[08:46] <michelleindeed> oh wait. just rightclick and install. wow.
[08:46] <RealisticDragon> it got so bad my dorm actually set up distcc :)
[08:46] <michelleindeed> now i feel very stupid.
[08:46] <zorglu_> michelleindeed: time to remove it now
[08:46] <michelleindeed> remove the other one?
[08:46] <_kuja_> I think it has been going for about two hours ... watched a movie while I was waiting...
[08:47] <RealisticDragon> well early KDE builds were 24 hours plus on that machine, so should be under 6 hours on todays computers :)
[08:47] <_pte> when (hd0,4) is linux partition in grup, then /dev/sda5 is root partiotion in linux, isn't it? is SATA sda or not?
[08:48] <_kuja_> RealisticDragon: I'd like to see just h ow long it takes, should be interesting
[08:48] <NapalmSMiles> can anyone think of a way to put a iso on an ipod?
[08:48] <RealisticDragon> as a bootable disk NapalmSMiles?
[08:48] <_kuja_> RealisticDragon: I had decided that I wanted to have a vanilla kde installed as well, what a time consuming idea
[08:48] <NapalmSMiles> yup
[08:48] <billytwowilly> did you guys switch to beryl in edgy when I wasn't looking? I have beryl like window switching and re-running kwin no longer fixes my lack of borders on windows.
[08:49] <raquel> feliz navidad paaara todos
[08:49] <RealisticDragon> edgy doesnt have beryl, even with backports, at least on ppc/32 billytwowilly
[08:49] <RealisticDragon> no es navidad hoy :P
[08:49] <ninHer> igual para ti raquel
[08:49] <billytwowilly> k, is there a beryl/kubuntu support channle?
[08:49] <zorglu_> !es
[08:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:49] <zorglu_> !xgl
[08:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:49] <billytwowilly> thanks