[12:16] <jhutchins> smbpasswd does both.
[12:16] <jhutchins> It's a switch, check the man page.
[12:16] <aaroncampbell> yeah, I have that.  smbpasswd is a file as well as a utility
[12:16] <kubuntian> ok, i just read that a smb user MUST have a corresponding UNIX user
[12:17] <jhutchins> It's also possible to tell samba to create accounts on the fly - I don't remember the details of that, I didn't like how it worked for me.
[12:17] <Schuenemann> is it possible to edit konqueror's preview for specific file types?
[12:17] <jhutchins> My home network has an NT Domain Controller where all the accounts reside.
[12:17] <jhutchins> That's probably what allows creation on the fly.
[12:18] <aaroncampbell> Even with wins support = yes ...I restart samba, it seems to work, but I can only access the share from a windows box using the IP
[12:19] <aaroncampbell> \\<IP_ADDRESS> works ... \\aaron does not
[12:19] <aaroncampbell> hostname of the system is aaron
[12:19] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Tell the windows box that the samba box is the domain controller and wins server.  Make sure the samba box wins the browser war.
[12:20] <jhutchins> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO.html
[12:21] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[12:21] <aaroncampbell> EUREKA!  That was it!
[12:22] <aaroncampbell> I disobeyed the classic "don't assume" rule
[12:22] <brendan_> hi, why does ubuntu use dash instead of bash?
[12:22] <aaroncampbell> Since nothing had been touched on the windows systems, I assumed they were still set up fine.  Not true
[12:22] <jhutchins> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server
[12:22] <aaroncampbell> When I had netowrk problems on the linux system, the WINS server was no longer valid, so Windows decided to remove it from the list
[12:23] <aaroncampbell> I added it back, and it works fine
[12:23] <aaroncampbell> Thanks jhutchins
[12:23] <roho> flash worked fine, i haven't changed anything, it's still installed, but for some reason youtube doesn't think i have it.
[12:23] <roho> i tried changing the browser identity but that didn't do any good
[12:24] <jhutchins> It's a heck of struggle getting through all the docs for samba.  I don't remember what it takes to get swat working - it's been disabled in favor of the ubuntu controls - but it's an easier way to configure stuff.
[12:24] <kubuntian> aaroncampbell: what?
[12:24] <kubuntian> what did you do?
[12:24] <ReK_> can anyone help with setting up my soundcard? for some reason, it worked fine in 6.10, but kmix cant detect the mixer in 7.04
[12:24] <aaroncampbell> I added the IP address of the linux box to the top of the list of WINS servers on the windows box
[12:27] <roho> so why would flash in konqueror work yesterday but not work today? i haven't changed anything.
[12:27] <roho> it works in firefox
[12:27] <jhutchins> roho: Re-scan for plugins.
[12:28] <roho> i just did that
[12:28] <roho> do i need to close the browser and restart after that?
[12:28] <kubuntian> aaroncampbell: :|
[12:28] <jhutchins> Shouldn't, but it's worth a try.
[12:28] <kubuntian> what?
[12:28] <roho> well, it didn't do any good
[12:29] <roho> and flash is listed in the plugins list, too
[12:29] <beldayven> Hi
[12:30] <beldayven> Anyone on here ever tried using MoinMoin-Desktop edition on kubuntu?
[12:30] <aaroncampbell> kubuntian: I don't know that you are having the same problem as me.  From one of your windows computers, click start, run, \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP of the linux box with the samba share.  If it works, let me know, and I know the solution to make \\hostname work as well
[12:30] <roho> jhutchins: anything else i might be missing?
[12:31] <Schuenemann> is it possible to edit konqueror's preview for specific file types?
[12:31] <kubuntian> \\<IP_ADDRESS> does not work
[12:33] <roho> there's gotta be something i can do
[12:33] <roho> i haven't changed konqueror at all
[12:34] <aaroncampbell> kubuntian: then you still need to get samba set up.  I did that months ago, and just recently had a WINS problem (hostname not resolving to IP)
[12:35] <aaroncampbell> I'm sorry, I can't help much with the samba setup
[12:35] <kubuntian> ok
[12:40] <a-865> what does KDE use that corresponds to gnome-volume manager? I have bug 47516 , but no gnome. :-p
[12:43] <vzduch> KwikDisk?
[12:46] <a-865> no idea, I'm just trying to kill whatever is ejecting the music CD https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-volume-manager/+bug/47516
[12:46] <a-865> dunno how to figure out what that is
[12:47] <ReK_> anyone know what cfg file the startup fsck command is in?
[12:47] <ReK_> fstab?
[12:47] <vzduch> no
[12:47] <a-865>  /etc/fstab next to last character each line
[12:48] <vzduch> ah right
[12:48] <ReK_> thanks
[12:48] <vzduch> good night people :9
[12:48] <ReK_> now, any idea why my soundcard worked fine in edgy but kmix cant etect the mixer in feisty?
[12:48] <ReK_> detect*
[12:48] <a-865>  /etc/fstab next to last integer each line
[12:49] <ReK_> im on my windows boot now cause i havent installed madwifi yet, but i have a lspci dump for the soundcard
[12:50] <ReK_> anyone?
[12:50] <ReK_> sound is kinda vital :/
[12:51] <ReK_> and i have no idea where to start with troubleshooting it
[12:52] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:52] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:53] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:53] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:54] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:54] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:55] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:55] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:55] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:59] <roho> ok, flash works everywhere BUT youtube, in konqueror.  and trying to fool it with a different id doesn't work either
[01:01] <roho> but it works fine in youtube's test video
[01:02] <roho> i guess no one else has had this problem
[01:02] <Schuenemann> why are you using konqueror?
[01:03] <roho> lots of reasons
[01:03] <roho> i like it
[01:03] <roho> the answer to the problem is NOT "use another browser"
[01:04] <roho> this is kde channel after all
[01:04] <ReK_> opera ftw
[01:04] <sismas> how to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ?
[01:04] <Minataku> Opera and Konq FTL
[01:04] <roho> Minataku: that's not helpful.
[01:04] <ReK_> lemme guess, you like ff?
[01:04] <roho> if you're not going to help, then you're not helping
[01:05] <Minataku> Opera is nonfree and Konq is just another half-baked addition to the pile for no real reason
[01:05] <sismas> how to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ?
[01:05] <Minataku> KDE tries to reimplement existing excellent solutions
[01:05] <Schuenemann> roho, actually this is kubuntu channel :P
[01:05] <roho> Minataku: yeah, so take that NOT HELPFUL talk to a place that's not a support channel
[01:05] <roho> Schuenemann: so what's the K for?
[01:05] <Minataku> !attitude | roho
[01:05] <ubotu> roho: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:06] <roho> Minataku: i ask for help and you mock my request.  you need the attitude adjustment, not me
[01:06] <roho> perhaps you should read your link again
[01:06] <gnomefreak> roho: and Minataku please stop the bickering
[01:06] <ReK_> opera may not be gpl/non-free, but its a ton better than ff even so, and just because it's non-free doesn't mean they're automagically a big bad evil corporation. theyre actually pretty awesome
[01:06] <sismas> how to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ??? :(
[01:06] <Schuenemann> firefox (fx, not "ff") is way better than opera
[01:07] <Minataku> !ati
[01:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:07] <ReK_> lol
[01:07] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Nice to meet another true fan :D
[01:07] <Minataku> Someone read the FAQ :3
[01:08] <Minataku> ReK_: There's a superior AND open source solution available. Closed source is not an option in such an instance.
[01:08] <ulumulu> hi
[01:08] <Minataku> Hello
[01:08] <ReK_> ff is not superior to opera, thats my whole point
[01:09] <ulumulu> hm may i can ask a question
[01:09] <ReK_> if it were, i would be just as much of a fanboi of it as you
[01:09] <Schuenemann> which FAQ? I see instructions for graphic cards set up (which didn't help me when I needed it)
[01:09] <Schuenemann> no? does opera have tons of extensions?
[01:09] <Schuenemann> !ask | ulumulu
[01:09] <ubotu> ulumulu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:09] <Schuenemann> :-)
[01:09] <ulumulu> look i got a speedlink headset and iam not able to instal the driver
[01:09] <ReK_> the one, single thing that ff has over it, and it isnt even fully necessary as userjs is native and you dont need to install greasemonkey
[01:10] <ReK_> widgets are bad, ill admit
[01:10] <Schuenemann> so opera is better because fx needs an extension to be superior to it in ALL aspects
[01:10] <ulumulu> i selected it on alsa as a standard device but it wont accpept it
[01:10] <Minataku> ulumulu: Do you have a headset port?
[01:10] <ReK_> but full extensions are on the todo list
[01:10] <Minataku> Headsets are different
[01:10] <Minataku> They're a speaker/mic mix
[01:11] <ReK_> and no, because greasemonkey makes it on par with it in one aspect. in all others it still pales in comparson
[01:11] <Schuenemann> dude, opera doesn't have 10% of firefox's extensions
[01:11] <Minataku> Nor 1% of it's support base
[01:11] <ulumulu> ehm its usb with in inbuilt sounddevice
[01:12] <Schuenemann> not 0,5% of it's freeness :p
[01:12] <ReK_> again, extensions arent needed
[01:12] <Minataku> And for good reason, who aside from the devs can actively suppor something that nobody buy they know anything about
[01:12] <Schuenemann> aren't they? I have over 30 installed
[01:12] <ReK_> lets talk about other features, like resource usage (lol ff2)
[01:12] <Minataku> I have about 10
[01:12] <Minataku> Firefox 2 is excellent
[01:12] <Schuenemann> http://del.icio.us/Schuenemann/Extensions
[01:12] <Minataku> They've really cleaned it up
[01:12] <Minataku> Especially with <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:13] <Minataku> I can run it for weeks without having to restart it
[01:13] <Minataku> Which isn't even a hassle anyway
[01:13] <Minataku> Never was
[01:13] <Schuenemann> I noticed <IP_ADDRESS> is better than 2.0.02
[01:13] <ulumulu> it seems the drivers arent built for linux yet
[01:13] <ReK_> i was running 15+ tabs, including some with flash, with less than half of the mem usage than 2 tabs in ff
[01:13] <Minataku> At least not with the "Restart Firefox" extension, which does it in one click
[01:13] <ulumulu> so is it possible to instal it anyway?
[01:13] <Minataku> ulumulu: You can't install a Windows driver into a Linux kernel
[01:14] <ReK_> well, it depends
[01:14] <ReK_> ndiswrapper?
[01:14] <Minataku> With the exception of ndiswrapper
[01:14] <ReK_> :P
[01:14] <ulumulu> well no hmm hard to explain
[01:14] <Minataku> Which isn't doing it either
[01:14] <ReK_> true
[01:15] <ulumulu> i instaled the usb driver properly but the device is not working
[01:15] <Minataku> Either way, the point is that the KDE team needs to focus on improving the DE as a whole, and scrap it's idiotic efforts at reimplementing existing solutions
[01:15] <Minataku> There is no need for Konqueror or KOffice
[01:15] <ReK_> true
[01:15] <ReK_> konq as a file browser works nicely. koffice is pointless in the face of OOo
[01:15] <Minataku> They're trying to imitate what Microsoft does
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> ReK_: not *entirely*
[01:16] <ReK_> and konq as a browser is pointless also, whether you use ff or opera
[01:16] <Minataku> And we all know how well their plan works
[01:16] <ReK_> how so?
[01:16] <Schuenemann> I've heard konqueror was the best browser for w3c support
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> with OOo being gtk+, some purists want a QT office suite
[01:16] <ReK_> problem is, the rest of the internet doesnt give two shits about w3c anymore
[01:16] <Schuenemann> but it doesn't support a text-transform attribute
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> so it has its place.  but it doesn't work that well.
[01:16] <Minataku> It's still a pointless reimplementation, Daisuke_Ido
[01:16] <Schuenemann> ReK_, anymore? they didn't care before.  Yesterday, we had only IE. Today we have some other browsers
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> i had ff yesterday...
[01:18] <Minataku> Actually, in the past, it was only Mosaic
[01:18] <ReK_> replacing IE with other browsers has nothing to do with the w3c...
[01:18] <Schuenemann> yes, I mean past netscape vs IE
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> ReK_: the hell it doesn't.
[01:18] <Schuenemann> of course it does
[01:18] <ReK_> directly i mean
[01:18] <Minataku> Which is still a historical point of interest reflected in IE's UA
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> directly.
[01:18] <Minataku> Mozilla/4.0
[01:18] <sayers> How do I run K3b with root privlages?
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> sayers: you don't need to.
[01:18] <Schuenemann> IE and it's crappy implementation made web developers "forget" entirely about what w3c is
[01:19] <Minataku> Mozilla, I believe, being the original codename for Netscape
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> alternative browsers are generally striving to be w3c compliant
[01:19] <Schuenemann> sayers, kdesu k3b
[01:19] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido:  cdrecord will be run without root  privileges It is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmg
[01:19] <Minataku> A name that still lives on to this day in UAs, the Mozilla internet suite and the Mozilla Foundation
[01:19] <Minataku> !sudo | sayers
[01:19] <ubotu> sayers: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:19] <ReK_> so one office changing off of IE, while applaudable, isnt going to give the w3c any more foothold. we'd need to knock IE down to at LEAST under the 50% usage, as opposed to the what, 0% it has now?
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> that doesn't mean you have to run k3b as root.
[01:20] <sayers> Yes I know about sudo...
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> cdrecord != k3b
[01:20] <Minataku> Oh, k3b
[01:20] <Minataku> Bah
[01:20] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: I am on gusty...
[01:20] <Minataku> I use cdrecord straight from the CLI
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> sayers: so?
[01:20] <Minataku> Using a GUI to make/burn an image just slows things down
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> k3b is still k3b
[01:20] <Schuenemann> ReK_, dude, today web developers (still) made some fishy page full of tables, non-standardized and say "IE is recommended"
[01:21] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: So in Feisty that messege doesnt display. But still happens?
[01:21] <ReK_> yes, i know, i worked with one last year
[01:21] <Minataku> Schuenemann: That is receeding
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> use the "configure" thing in k3b
[01:21] <ReK_> i forced him to learn divs
[01:21] <Minataku> Along with IE's share
[01:21] <Schuenemann> ReK_, great
[01:21] <Minataku> It's actually a lot less than reported, BTW
[01:21] <Minataku> Given the fact that some sites try to force IE via UA detection
[01:22] <Schuenemann> if IE has, say, 50%, users will say: NO, I don't want to install this trash. I want to use my own browser.   I have never seen a Mac in my life, so I don't know about anyone going to safari
[01:25] <BluesKaj> anarchy!
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> sayers: it should be right there where that message showed up.
[01:25] <ReK_> i know it is, but its got more market share than any single FOSS browser other than ff
[01:25] <Schuenemann> !foss
[01:25] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[01:25] <Schuenemann> what is that foss?
[01:25] <Minataku> That's because of pretentious Mac users
[01:25] <ReK_> those who stay on windows get ff, but of those who move off of windows, the lion's share go to mac
[01:25] <ReK_> Free/Open-Source Software
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> ReK_: maybe because ff is about the only good (graphical) foss browser?
[01:25] <sismas> wher is Restricted Drivers Manager ?
[01:25] <Schuenemann> I see everybody going from IE to firefox; and some to opera
[01:25] <Minataku> Right, to Mac which is far, far worse
[01:26] <Schuenemann> and people don't know what is FOSS too :-)
[01:26] <ReK_> i support apple right now purely because of vmware
[01:26] <Minataku> ReK_: You shouldn't support Apple at all
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> most apple users i know use firefox because they can't stand safari.
[01:26] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: No..?
[01:26] <ReK_> my friend with a macbook uses ff opera and safari, says it depends on his mood...
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and that's an easy dozen, just around here
[01:26] <Minataku> At least Microsoft doesn't lock you into ugly, overpriced, underpowered hardware as well as shoddy, lousy software
[01:27] <Schuenemann> ReK_, where do you live?
[01:27] <ReK_> vancouver
[01:27] <sayers> Minataku: not as much atleast ;p
[01:27] <hasan> how can i create a shared folder for samba?
[01:27] <BluesKaj>  i assume that Ff can browse anywhere in Linux where IE can in windows or 99% of sites including banks and other institutions including universities
[01:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: that's your opinion, and you're welcome to it :P  some people like apple software AND hardware, and they're more than welcome to that opinion
[01:27] <Schuenemann> in Brazil, no one has a mac
[01:27] <Minataku> And PCs are still fully customizable and upgradeable
[01:27] <Schuenemann> hence no one uses safari
[01:27] <hasan> i have created a folder named Shared in my home directory
[01:27] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Tell me when I can custom build a Mac
[01:27] <Minataku> And maybe I'll change my views
[01:28] <hasan> but when i type smb:/<IP_ADDRESS>/Shared in konqueror it gives an error
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i didn't say to change your views, i said not to force them on others :)
[01:28] <Minataku> I feel very safe in saying that because I know for a fact THEY'LL NEVER LET IT HAPPEN
[01:28] <Minataku> I'm not forcing anything on anyone
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> because maybe they like it
[01:28] <roho> i'm with Minataku on that one.
[01:28] <roho> it probably voids the warranty to open one up, too
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> roho: nope, it doesn't.
[01:28] <Minataku> Why don't you learn the damn difference between voicing the reason for my opinion and trying to force it on people
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> [19:27]  <Minataku> ReK_: You shouldn't support Apple at all
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> that sounds like forcing to me.
[01:29] <Minataku> Note "shouldn't"
[01:29] <Schuenemann> hehehe
[01:29] <Minataku> Contraction of "should not"
[01:29] <Minataku> "Should" usually indicating a suggestion
[01:29] <ReK_> i dont support apple myself, but i do like vmware, because it should be prtable to linux
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, telling people that they should not do something YOU disapprove of is considered pushing, maybe not FORCING, but pushing your beliefs on someone
[01:29] <roho> forcing is "YOU WILL"
[01:29] <Minataku> A suggestion being advice one wishes another to take under consideration
[01:30] <Schuenemann> YOU MUST OR YOU'LL DIE
[01:30] <sismas> how to install ati video driver ?
[01:30] <Minataku> ReK_: VMWare DOES run on Linux
[01:30] <Minataku> !ati | sismas
[01:30] <ubotu> sismas: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:30] <Schuenemann> honestly, I think if someone isn't using IE, he's right
[01:30] <XVampireX> Hi, I know it's not related to just kubuntu
[01:30] <XVampireX> but how do I choose a specific alsa driver to load
[01:31] <XVampireX> I don't want the built-in sound card
[01:31] <XVampireX> I want the PCI soundcard that I installed
[01:31] <XVampireX> !alsa
[01:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:32] <Minataku> Both should work at once
[01:32] <Minataku> Just configure your individual apps to use the PCI one
[01:32] <Tenerifedave> i have a problem installing proftpd...
[01:32] <BluesKaj> XVampireX, you prolly should go into your BIOS and turn off the soundcard in peripherlas that you don't want and enable the PCI card
[01:32] <Minataku> In sounds apps under drivers there should be an option to configure ALSA settings
[01:32] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: k3bsetup is the command
[01:32] <Tenerifedave> here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27531/
[01:32] <Tenerifedave> anyone can help will be much appreciated
[01:33] <BluesKaj> err peripherals
[01:33] <XVampireX> BluesKaj: Oh, good idea :D
[01:33] <XVampireX> and alsa won't load it?
[01:33] <Minataku> Tenerife... isn't that where one of the worst airplane disasters occured?
[01:33] <Tenerifedave> yep
[01:33] <Minataku> I saw a show about it on Discovery Times
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> there ya go :)
[01:33] <Minataku> lol
[01:33] <Tenerifedave> 2 airliners collided
[01:33] <Minataku> On the runway, yeah
[01:33] <BluesKaj> XVampireX, that's what i had to do on my other old pc
[01:33] <Tenerifedave> yeah thats the one
[01:34] <Minataku> Like a car accident, only far, far deadlier
[01:34] <Minataku> XP
[01:34] <Tenerifedave> lmao just a bit
[01:35] <BluesKaj> lmao ? ...what's funny about hundreds of ppl dying
[01:35] <Tenerifedave> thats not funny at all
[01:35] <ReK_> wheres the clown?
[01:35] <coreymon77> its not the people dying thats funny
[01:36] <coreymon77> its just the crashes are usually funny to watch
[01:36] <Minataku> Car crashes are exciting
[01:36] <Minataku> That's why I love cop shows
[01:36] <Minataku> Both real (ala COPS) and fake (ala CHiPs) :D
[01:36] <Minataku> CHiPs, BTW, ftfw
[01:36] <Tenerifedave> lol
[01:36] <Minataku> :3
[01:37] <Tenerifedave> any1 have any idea about my problem?
[01:37] <Tenerifedave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27531/
[01:38] <Tenerifedave> trying to set up proftpd on my box
[01:38] <persephone> hello..I'm looking for some help on VMware
[01:38] <Minataku> !vmware
[01:38] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:39] <BluesKaj> some freiends died in the tenerife disaster , so i guess I'm a bit sensitive about it...they were on the Pan Am flight
[01:39] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Holy crap
[01:39] <Tenerifedave> oh right
[01:39] <BluesKaj> <--old
[01:39] <Minataku> BluesKaj: He was laughing at my not-really-a-joke-comment [19:32:41]  Minataku Like a car accident, only far, far deadlier
[01:39] <Tenerifedave> have you seen the memorial "stairs" they have put up here
[01:39] <BluesKaj> ok , that's cool
[01:40] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: I haven't, no
[01:40] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Your /etc/hosts is misconfigured, I think
[01:40] <Tenerifedave> hmmm ok
[01:40] <Minataku> You need to specify an IP for "computer"
[01:40] <Tenerifedave> ahhh
[01:40] <Minataku> Lemme get what's in mine for ya
[01:41] <persephone> I've downloaded the VMware evaluation from their site and don't know hoiw to INSTALL it..I've tried APT
[01:41] <Minataku> <IP_ADDRESS>       Piyoko.EdNet Piyoko localhost
[01:41] <kubuntian> hello everybody, i am trying to share a printer with a windows machine using the functionalities offered by CUPS
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> well apt ain't gonna help if you downloaded it from their site
[01:41] <Minataku> So yours should be "<IP_ADDRESS> computer computer localhost"
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> is it a tarball?
[01:41] <persephone> I've got it EXPANDED in a folder
[01:41] <XVampireX> BluesKaj: Hi?
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> gzipped tarball?  bzip2?
[01:41] <persephone> yes Tar
[01:41] <Tenerifedave> yep thats it Minataku
[01:41] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Toss that in there and tell me if it works
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, go into that folder
[01:41] <sayers> Where is the CDRECORD module located so I can just chmod 4711 it
[01:41] <kubuntian> i followed the guide that you can find at the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> persephone: are you doing this from a console?
[01:42] <persephone> OK hold on while I bring it up
[01:42] <Tenerifedave> i have in mine Minataku: <IP_ADDRESS> localhost, <IP_ADDRESS> computer.MSHOME
[01:42] <kubuntian> but in windows, after spefying the address, windows asks me for a username/password.. i tried my linux machine passwords but it didn't work.. which one am i supposed to insert?
[01:43] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Hm
[01:43] <persephone> OK got the folder open
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> in a terminal
[01:43] <Minataku> Interesting
[01:43] <illriginal> Has anyone installed Photoshop 7.0 using Crossover?
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> there should be something with install in the name, maybe
[01:44] <persephone> yes from Konquer
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> not konqueror
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> a terminal
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> konsole
[01:44] <persephone> which terminal should I use?
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> even xterm, i don't care
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> they all work just as well :)
[01:45] <persephone> OK..which ever is easy :)
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you're using linux.  not everything is going to be easy :)
[01:46] <persephone> I'm begining to find that out :)
[01:46] <persephone> OK..I got terminal up
[01:46] <kubuntian> hello everybody, i am trying to share a printer with a windows machine using the functionalities offered by CUPS.  i followed the guide that you can find at the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP but in windows, after specifying the printer address, windows asks me for a username/password.. i tried my linux machine passwords but it didn't work.. which one am i supposed to insert?
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> persephone: where's the directory you expanded the tarball to?
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> something like: /home/yourusername/Desktop/something?
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> and i will be RIGHT back, phone
[01:47] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Add "computer" to the end of that second line
[01:48] <Tenerifedave> ok
[01:48] <Tenerifedave> so computer.MSHOME.computer?
[01:49] <persephone> it's HERE: /home/persephone/Desktop/ DX DOWNLOAD/VMware/vmware-distrib
[01:49] <Minataku> No
[01:49] <Minataku> No .
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> ok
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> MSHOMEcomputer? or a space?
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> sorry about this lol
[01:50] <Minataku> Yeah, space or tab
[01:50] <Minataku> It's okay
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> ok :)
[01:50] <Minataku> Better you asked than assumed XD
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> hehe
[01:50] <persephone> so where should Imove this folder?
[01:51] <Tenerifedave> hmmm its giving me a IPv6 error...
[01:51] <Tenerifedave> no address associated with hostname computer.MSHOME
[01:52] <Minataku> Well
[01:52] <Minataku> At least it's a new one
[01:52] <Minataku> >.<
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> lol
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> getting somewhere
[01:52] <Minataku> That means we fixed the IPv4 error
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> oooo
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> cd /home/persephone/Desktop/DX\ Download/VMware/vmware-distrib
[01:52] <Minataku> As for the IPv6 error... I don't use IPv6
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> copy and paste
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> i dont either
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> lol
[01:52] <Minataku> So I'm out of help >.<
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> cd = change directory
[01:52] <Minataku> XD
[01:52] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[01:52] <persephone> OK..hold
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> i dont use IPv4 :S lol
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> only*
[01:53] <Minataku> Same
[01:53] <Minataku> But I can disable IPv6 when I compile my kernels
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> hmmm what else did you have in your hosts file?
[01:53] <Minataku> Just that line
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> did you have some stuff about IPv6?
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> ahh right
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> i have stuff about IPv6
[01:54] <persephone> says I'm at /desktop$
[01:54] <Minataku> Add computer to the end of the one with "computer.MSHOME"
[01:54] <Minataku> Same way as the last one you added to
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> cd /home
[01:54] <Tenerifedave> cant i just delete all the IPv6 stuff?
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> cd persephone
[01:54] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: No
[01:54] <Minataku> That'll break stuff
[01:55] <Tenerifedave> oh ok lol
[01:55] <Tenerifedave> i shall not do that then
[01:55] <persephone> at /home$
[01:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ls
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> ls = list files/directories
[01:56] <Tenerifedave> hmm right when i do "apt-get install proftpd" now it just says its the newest version and no errors
[01:56] <persephone> lists: persephon
[01:56] <persephone> persephone
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> cd to that
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> cd persephone
[01:56] <Tenerifedave> i think its sorted Minataku
[01:56] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Then... you already have it
[01:57] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Cool
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> then you should be able to cd Desktop
[01:57] <Tenerifedave> im in on ftp://locahost
[01:57] <Tenerifedave> :D
[01:57] <Minataku> Sweet :3
[01:57] <Tenerifedave> cheers for your help dude, that must have fixed it
[01:57] <Minataku> Enjoy :D
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> remember, linux is case sensitive, Desktop isn't the same as desktop
[01:57] <persephone> yes doing it..starting to get the hang :)
[01:57] <Tenerifedave> i shall :D
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> excellent
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> there's another e in there somewhere, i'm too tired to correct it :)
[01:58] <persephone> OK done that
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> nope Daisuke_Ido thats the correct way to spell it!
[01:59] <persephone> tried cd DX DOWNLOAD..say no such directory
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> persephone: now you discover why spaces are a pain :)
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> cd DX
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> then hit <tab>
[02:00] <persephone> yes..guess I'm too use to windows :(
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> that's where the \ came from when i typed out the whole path
[02:01] <persephone> then I put in DOWNLOAD right? :)
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> after you hit tab it should auto-complete it for you
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> or you can use cd DX\ DOWNLOAD
[02:02] <persephone> it didn't auto..let me try again
[02:03] <persephone> keeps say no file
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ls
[02:03] <persephone> I did..it shows there
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> wait, you had a space in there.  i can't imagine it starting with a space, or even if it can...
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> try cd \<tab>
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a long shot that i have no idea whether it will work or not.
[02:04] <persephone> oops..there is a space before the /
[02:05] <persephone> before DX
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> did cd \<tab> complete it for you?
[02:07] <persephone> no..gives me another \
[02:08] <persephone> can change the name of the folder now without spav=ces
[02:08] <persephone> can change the name of the folder now without spaces
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want, you can rename that folder from within konqueror, remove the space at the beginning
[02:09] <persephone> OK..hold
[02:10] <persephone> OK changed it to downloads
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> alrighty then, that will make this easier
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> cd downloads
[02:11] <persephone> OK..got to VMware folder
[02:11] <persephone> ls
[02:11] <persephone> did a lisrt
[02:11] <solid_liq> !pingme
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pingme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome
[02:12] <persephone> :)
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a file with "install" in it?
[02:12] <persephone> I use to work with CLI when I had My AMIGA
[02:12] <persephone> Amiga has a cli very semilier to UNIX
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i miss the amiga
[02:13] <persephone> me too..luv them..
[02:13] <persephone> I'm re setting mine up..it has a M68060 in it ..A1200
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> nice, all i ever owned was a 500 :\
[02:14] <Minataku> I'll be getting some Amigas soon
[02:14] <Minataku> 3 A1200s
[02:14] <Minataku> And a CD32
[02:15] <persephone> cd32 was a under appreciated  device
[02:15] <persephone> I also have Amiga Forever on Windows XP
[02:16] <persephone> there is a folder under VMware called vmware-distrib
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> cd vmware-distrib
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> that's where you want to be
[02:17] <persephone> ok
[02:17] <persephone> I'm there
[02:17] <persephone> this is where the Tar was expanded to
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> that's good
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> is there anything indicating an install or setup file in the directory listing?
[02:18] <persephone> there is a folder called installer
[02:19] <persephone> also a file called: vmware-install.pl
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> try this:
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> sh vmware-install.pl
[02:20] <persephone> ok
[02:22] <persephone> got a bunch of errors vmware-install.pl  8  not found
[02:23] <persephone> also 13, 16, 18, 21 , 27
[02:24] <persephone>  Syntax error: "{" unexpected (expecting "then")
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> try perl vmware-install.pl
[02:24] <persephone> ok
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> to be honest, this is kind of the blind leading the blind here
[02:24] <persephone> haha I understand the problem
[02:26] <persephone> got THIS: This version of "VMware Workstation" is incompatible with this operating
[02:26] <persephone> system.  Please install the "i386" version of this program instead.
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> you using the 64 bit version?
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> (of kubuntu)
[02:27] <persephone> guess I should talk to VMware..I thought I downloaded the right version for my computer
[02:27] <persephone> yes
[02:27] <persephone> 64 bit
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> wait, it's asking for the i386
[02:27] <persephone> I have a athlon X2 64 bit processor
[02:28] <persephone> yes I 386
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> But did you install the amd64 version of Kubuntu?
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> right, but if you're using the standard kubuntu release, it's 32 bit
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> which means you'll need the i386 version of vmware
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> (I tried it for a couple months, and I just switched over to i386)
[02:28] <persephone> Ithink I have the 64 bit version of Kubuntu
[02:29] <persephone> actually it was Ubuntu I add the Kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> at the console, type uname -r
[02:31] <persephone> 2.6.20-16-generic
[02:31] <persephone> hmmmm
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> that's no help then :(
[02:31] <persephone> perhaps I should load Kubuntu from scartch
[02:31] <roho> what package is klash part of?
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> persephone: just get the other version from vmware's site :)
[02:33] <persephone> Iappreciate your help and don't mean to belittle it..but i THINK I should get help from VMware..they do want to SELL it :)
[02:34] <persephone> they emphasize they are will to help with the evaluation software
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> also a valid route
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> they would probably be more helpful than i've been
[02:35] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, there's an AMD 64 bit version of Kubuntu ?
[02:35] <persephone> I want to get out from under WINDOZE forever..but I have some applications that only run on WINDOZE
[02:35] <BluesKaj> how can it be AMD specific?
[02:35] <persephone> you've been very helpful..at least we found out there is a problem
[02:36] <BluesKaj> persephone, which ones?
[02:36] <persephone> Ithought I had the 64 bit version..don't know if it is AMD specific
[02:37] <persephone> it might even be a X2 problem
[02:38] <persephone> I luved the old term from my Amiga days of WINDOZE
[02:38] <persephone> :):)
[02:38] <persephone> :)
[02:38] <persephone> :D
[02:38] <persephone> :X
[02:38] <persephone> :x
[02:38] <SlimG> How should a ktorrent regex pattern look like to work? .* doesn't work
[02:39] <darkrift411> ..
[02:39] <darkrift411> i think
[02:39] <Tenerifedave> anyone know the command to list your hard drives and where they are mounted in the shell?
[02:39] <darkrift411> been a long time since i used regex
[02:39] <darkrift411> but i think .. is like wildcards *
[02:40] <SlimG> darkrift411: thanks, it does
[02:40] <darkrift411> :)
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> Tenerifedave: mount, or df
[02:40] <Tenerifedave> ahh thank you nosrednaekim
[02:40] <darkrift411> i wrote a script in mirc to convert wildcards to regex once
[02:40] <darkrift411> used it to create spamfilters on a network i used to run.... those were the days
[02:42] <persephone> Minataku..when are you getting your 3 A1200?
[02:42] <Minataku> Whenever a friend sends them to me
[02:42] <Minataku> lol
[02:43] <persephone> Daisuke..is your name like that Red Sox Pitcher?
[02:44] <persephone> well..enjoy the A12oo..they are good computers and still use as a multimedia machinfe in some circles :D
[02:45] <persephone> some Star Wars movies were made using them
[02:46] <darkrift411> i thought vlc could play thru lots of errors
[02:46] <darkrift411> how come soo many things work better in windows :@
[02:46] <darkrift411> firefox and now vlc
[02:46] <dfff> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????
[02:47] <dfff> what to do ?
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> dfff: I think you have to run that as root
[02:47] <dfff> im run from root
[02:48] <persephone>  Daisuke_ido are you still here?
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> oh.. ok
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido is ALWAYS here
[02:49] <Schuenemann> what does "free as in beer means" ?
[02:49] <Schuenemann> what does "free as in beer" means ? *
[02:49] <Schuenemann> mean**
[02:49] <persephone>  Daisuke_ido I do THANK YOUfor your help..I appreciate it a lot :D
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> it means its free, but you don't know what went into it
[02:49] <BluesKaj> someone has paid for it , just not you :)
[02:49] <dfff> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????what to do ??
[02:50] <Schuenemann> but beer isn't free?
[02:50] <Schuenemann> but beer isn't free! (horrible typing today)
[02:50] <persephone> it is when someone else buys :)
[02:50] <BluesKaj> it is if someone else is paying
[02:50] <Schuenemann> hummm heh
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> I was about to say "what have you been drinking?"
[02:51] <paranda> hola
[02:52] <dfff> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????what to do ??
[02:53] <matt__> i am used to ubuntu, but am trying out kde, or kubuntu-desktop, whatever you wanna call it. i found a theme off of kde-look, it is a kth file, how do i apply it?
[02:53] <Schuenemann> hehe
[02:54] <paranda> hola quien habla espaol
[02:54] <rolando> hola, alguien puede ayudarme con kubuntu y mi pinnacle
[02:54] <TeraDyne> !es | paranda
[02:54] <ubotu> paranda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:54] <Schuenemann> !es | paranda
[02:54] <coreymon77> !es | paranda
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: hey sorry I couldn't make it yesterday
[02:55] <matt__> paranda: hable espanol, pero nada mucho
[02:55] <matt__> how do you apply files of of kde look?
[02:55] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: no prob, i accidentally slept through it anyways, :P
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: haha
[02:56] <matt__> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/B%C3%A9o?content=60013
[02:56] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know if there's a shell program that can be used to put something in KDE's on-screen display?
[02:56] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: and they were so disorganized that even if i was there, they wouldnt have gotten to me anyways
[02:56] <matt__> i would i make that my system theme?
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: ah, ok.
[02:56] <compilerwriter> !sp | paranda
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <compilerwriter> !es | paranda
[02:56] <ubotu> paranda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: onscreen display?
[02:57] <matt__> in kubuntu, how do you change the theme?
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> matt__: you have to open "kcontrol"
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- yeah, the messages in the top-left of the screen. I know Kopete and Amarok use it
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: oh, thats libnotify
[02:58] <Dragnslcr> Hm. Know if there's a shell command to control it?
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: no clue...
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- hm, you sure about that? I don't have any of the packages listed in Adept for 'notify' installed, but Amarok still displays them
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> hmm... maybe not..
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> just a second... i know where to find it..
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: hmmm seems to be a python class in guidance that does the power manager popups
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> Maybe it's /usr/lib/kde3/knotify.la ?
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> no clue where the python module is...
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> There's a python-notify package that requires libnotify1
[03:07] <darkrift411> how do i make knetworkmgr show my wifi signal meter again instead of a cat5 plug?
[03:07] <darkrift411> it used to work
[03:07] <darkrift411> and something happened
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: that could be it.. is it installed?
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> Nope. libnotify1 isn't even installed
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: are you still connected via wireless
[03:08] <darkrift411> yes
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: do you have guidance power manager installed?
[03:08] <darkrift411> could it be because my wifi is called eth1 ?
[03:08] <darkrift411> and if so, can i rename it?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: no,I don't think so
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> it does that for me too sometimes.
[03:08] <darkrift411> it used to show
[03:08] <darkrift411> and then one day it wouldnt connect
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> knetworkmanager is buggy
[03:09] <darkrift411> so i was in there and i noticed it had a bad subnet, and i removed the subnet and wifi worked
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- yeah, both of the kde-guidance packages are installed
[03:09] <darkrift411> but the icon hasnt been right since
[03:09] <darkrift411> can i rename eth1 to wifi1
[03:09] <darkrift411> and will that kill other things
 knetworkmanager is buggy
[03:10] <cWolfe> its crazy buggy
[03:11] <darkrift411> heh
[03:11] <cWolfe> its so buggy its not even funny
[03:11] <darkrift411> is there a better app to use?
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Plug-and-Pray?
[03:11] <darkrift411> i just want something that sits in tray showing if im connected, and hopefully a signal meter
[03:11] <cWolfe> ive been doing the manual ip thing
[03:11] <cWolfe> oh, for wifi
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: I think kwifimanager does it, but it doesn't do WPA
[03:11] <cWolfe> i dont use wifi
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> I gave up on wireless several years ago. Of course, I don't really like laptops anyway
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: you know... I have no clue.. but you should be able to write a python program to do it.
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> Eh
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> It's already in a shell script, which is why I wanted a shell command
[03:13] <darkrift411> erm
[03:13] <darkrift411> when i close kwifimanager, it doesnt go to tray
[03:14] <darkrift411> it closes :(
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> I finally discovered that Kopete can do what I miss most about Trillian
[03:14] <darkrift411> nvm
[03:14] <darkrift411> found option to fix gtat
[03:14] <darkrift411> that*
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: thats cool, tho I use GAIM (aka pidgin b4 everyone flames me)
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: nah, if you're using the one from the repos its still gaim :)
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I was using Gaim. I figure I should start using Kopete though
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> Gaim seems to be getting less customization-friendly
[03:16] <darkrift411> does kapote have a google talk plugin?
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> Kopete supports Jabber, yes
[03:16] <jriachi> is there something like  pdf2jpeg, or something like that?
[03:18] <ffff2fff> !ati
[03:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: ok.. I have libnotify1 installed
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Maybe for that Python package you mentioned
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: how about notification-daemon?
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> Not installed
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> !info libnotify1
[03:20] <ubotu> libnotify1: sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.3-1 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> !info notification-daemon
[03:20] <ubotu> notification-daemon: a daemon that displays passive pop-up notifications. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 188 kB
[03:21] <jriachi> hello
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: go get libnotify-bin. that does what you want
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> jriachi: howdy
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> just tested it out
[03:22] <Tachyon> I'm having a problem installing Kubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 6400.  After I select "Start or install Kubuntu", it loads the Linux kernel and the Kubuntu startup screen, but then the screen goes blank with a cursor flashing in the upper left hand corner.
[03:22] <Tachyon> Nothing I do has any effect.
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: and then do "man notify-send"
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- I was about to say that seems somewhat odd that Amarok can do the OSD messages if that isn't installed
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> it must use something else
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> but that will do what you want
[03:24] <jriachi> hitmanWilly: taking a break. (studing communications electronic tonight :) )
[03:24] <hitmanWilly> :)
[03:25] <hitmanWilly> amarok probably has some sort of direct interface to the kde desktop
[03:25] <bigperm> what is the difference between the cd and dvd versions of kubuntu
[03:26] <TeraDyne> You know, I have the Amarok source on my laptop here. I'll see if I can find what it uses for the OSD.
[03:26] <hitmanWilly> or possibly uses its own built in routines
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- doesn't seem to work. I thought Kopete used it too, but I guess it doesn't
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> libnotify-bin doesn't work?
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Maybe Amarok is special
[03:28] <kalorin`> any brilliant hardware types out there?
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> notify-send Test "This is a test"
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> I didn't see anything
[03:28] <kalorin`> trying to figure out what mhz my cpu is running at in this machine
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> No big deal. I thought that OSD was part of KDE, but maybe it is just part of Amarok
[03:28] <bigperm> what is the difference between the cd and dvd versions of kubuntu?
[03:28] <TeraDyne> Looks like Amarok uses it's own custom OSD.
[03:29] <kalorin`> bigperm: likely how much it'll have to download if you want to install more stuff
[03:29] <hitmanWilly> bigperm: more packages on the dvd that you'll probably need to update anyway :)
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> I just wanted to toss a little extra feedback into my shell scripts that set my Kopete status. It's not all that important
[03:30] <SlimG> bigperm: DVD installs the correct language packs for your chosen language afair
[03:31] <SlimG> bigperm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307060
[03:31] <darkrift411> i cant find kopete plugins anywhere :(
[03:32] <cWolfe> i have blackcats-games invites if anyone wants
[03:32] <cWolfe> sorry, wrong channel, the offer still stands though
[03:32] <bigperm> thanks a bunch
[03:32] <bigperm> I just bought a inspiron 1200 with a crap ethernet port and it looks like the dvd version is going to be better
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> I still say that you have a DVD burner, blank discs, and an extra day or so for the download, you might as well get the DVD
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: ahh... the notifications go to the bottom left hand corner with this command "notify-send -c Notify "test"
[03:35] <The_Un-Named> does anyone have a 7.04 minimal cd download link?
[03:35] <darkrift411> how do you get kopete to connect to your gmail chat?
[03:36] <darkrift411> i entered it in<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:36] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: instructiona are on the google site
[03:36] <darkrift411> and my password
[03:36] <darkrift411> but it wont connect
[03:36] <darkrift411> oh, i c
[03:36] <darkrift411> :)
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: try it out.
[03:37] <bigperm> the DVD torrent is rocking a solid 700k
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> and I have to go.. c ya
[03:37] <bigperm> with built-in hash checks, it's the way to download
[03:37] <bigperm> only and hour to go
[03:38] <e0f> Hi guys. How can I change my desktop resolution on kubuntu without edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? thanks :)
[03:38] <hasan> hi gyus
[03:38] <hasan> who uses kmldonkey?
[03:38] <hasan> how can i add new servers to it?
[03:38] <hasan> as it was the case with amule from servers.met file
[03:39] <hasan> or do i have to add every server manually one by one?
[03:39] <hitmanWilly> e0f: if you have an nvidia card you can use nvidia-settings
[03:40] <e0f> hitmanWilly: nope, i've i915 :)
[03:40] <Schuenemann> I need help setting up my nvidia graphic card (and please, I already know the wiki link and wasn't able to accomplish it)
[03:40] <hitmanWilly> e0f: well, system settings should have an option to change it, but its limited by what's in xorg.conf IIRC
[03:41] <sweettooth> hey there, my kdenetworkmanager doesn't seem very stable at times, after reboot, sometimes it does not detect any network at all, has any one got an idea?
[03:41] <e0f> hitmanWilly: i didn't found that in system settings!!
[03:42] <hitmanWilly> e0f: display settings?
[03:42] <coreymon77> sweettooth: what type of network connection
[03:42] <cWolfe> so back to an earlier topic, im the only one with fiesty that cant burn a file bigger than 4BG on a dl dvd?
[03:42] <e0f> hitmanWilly: yeah, I didn't found display setting in my kubuntu!! :(
[03:42] <cWolfe> s/4BG/4GB
[03:42] <sweettooth> coreymon77, it is wireless connection
[03:42] <hitmanWilly> e0f: it may be under the advanced tab
[03:43] <e0f> hitmanWilly: mmmm yeah but where? lol
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> e0f: if you still can't find it, try alt-f2 and run kcontrol, i know its in there :)
[03:43] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, what network card (company, model, chipset, driver)?
[03:44] <darkrift411> is there a way to make ctrl+v and ctrl+c the universal copy and paste?
[03:44] <darkrift411> like in konsole?
[03:44] <e0f> hitmanWilly: mmm....i don't found display setting in kcontrol!!!!
[03:45] <darkrift411> i feel like the nerd who needs linux to be windows
[03:45] <darkrift411> but i do :)
[03:45] <darkrift411> i want linux to be a more stable windows :)
[03:45] <jriachi> e0f: what a you trying to do?
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> darkrift411- dunno about globally, but you can configure Konsole's shortcut keys
[03:45] <sweettooth> coreymon77, sorry how to tell?
[03:45] <hitmanWilly> e0f: ok, Peripherals --> Display
[03:45] <coreymon77> sweettooth: desktop or laptop
[03:46] <hitmanWilly> e0f: under kcontrol
[03:46] <sweettooth> it is an acer laptop travelmate 3000
[03:46] <coreymon77> darkrift411: the only time ive seen it not like that is in konsole
[03:46] <coreymon77> darkrift411: just live with it
[03:46] <e0f> hitmanWilly: in Peripherals there aren't Display on my kde :(( i dunno why!!!
[03:46] <jriachi> e0f: or try   displayconfig
[03:46] <coreymon77> okay
[03:46] <Dragnslcr> darkrift411- although, as Konsole just warned me, using Ctrl-C for copy might not be a good idea
[03:47] <coreymon77> darkrift411: cntrl+c is used for the cancel command function
[03:47] <s1imas1> !ATI
[03:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <hitmanWilly> e0f: ok, it sounds like something in your system is borked...
[03:48] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, so i take it that its a pmcia wireless card right?
[03:48] <sweettooth> not really, its built-in
[03:49] <jriachi> with convert print.ps print.png , i get "print-0.png" and  "print-1.png";    each with a page of the .ps, how can i get just one (taller) image (i dont mind using another program)?
[03:49] <sweettooth> coreymon77, can you tell me how to find out the wireless card details please?
[03:49] <sweettooth> then i can precisely tell you which one it is :)
[03:49] <Arwen> man I need a new hard drive.... burning DVDs is such a pain in the ***
[03:49] <coreymon77> sweettooth: type lspmcia into konsole
[03:50] <darkrift411> in ktorrent, where do i find the torrent thats currently downloading?
[03:50] <darkrift411> its downloading at like 2k, but i know it can go faster
[03:50] <darkrift411> so imma delete it and reaload it
[03:50] <darkrift411> but cant find it
[03:51] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i take it as 'lspcmcia'm and the result is Socket 0 Bridge:        [yenta_cardbus]          (bus ID: 0000:06:07.0)
[03:51] <darkrift411> and yes, i am gonna suck you guys dry of info
[03:51] <darkrift411> i love this mother(censored) channel
[03:51] <coreymon77> sweettooth: give me the output next to ethernet controller in the lspmcia output
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> what version of ktorrent?
[03:52] <darkrift411> latest
[03:52] <darkrift411> whatever came with 7.04
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> latest from the repos?
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> 2.1
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[03:52] <darkrift411> and all upgrades
[03:52] <darkrift411> im current on upgrades
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> still 2.1
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[03:52] <darkrift411> k
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> how do you find where it stores the actual .torrent files or where it stores the files you're downloading or where you can actually find the listing in the gui?
[03:53] <sweettooth> bash: lspmcia: command not found
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> you were kinda vague
[03:53] <sweettooth> coreymon77, am i missing sth in here?
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> lspcmcia
[03:53] <darkrift411> torrent
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[03:53] <darkrift411> i need to copy it so i can restart it completely
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> let me have a quick little looksee
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[03:53] <darkrift411> dont know where firefox would have downloaded it
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> it will keep it there
[03:53] <coreymon77> sweettooth: put the output of lspmcia into pastebin and give me the link
[03:53] <darkrift411> and there is no "properties" in ktorrent
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> have you used utorrent before?
[03:54] <The_Un-Named> http://hoey.tzo.com:8082/ViewerFrame?Mode=Motion&Resolution=320x240&Quality=Motion&Interval=30&Size=STD&PresetOperation=Move&Language=0
[03:54] <darkrift411> yes
[03:54] <The_Un-Named> sorry, wrong channel
[03:54] <darkrift411> wish there was one for linux
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> then you know utorrent saves torrents between uses of the program
[03:54] <banksey> !xine
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <darkrift411> yes
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it's there when you close it, still there when you reopen it
[03:54] <darkrift411> i want to backup the .torrent file
[03:54] <darkrift411> and delete torrent + data
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> ktorrent does the same thing
[03:54] <darkrift411> and restart ktorrent
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> AH.
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[03:55] <darkrift411> then reload the backup .torrent
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> odd, but doable
[03:55] <darkrift411> lol
[03:55] <sweettooth> coreymon77, pls have a look, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27543/
[03:55] <darkrift411> i have 4000 seeds, 2000 leechers and im getting .2k download speeds
[03:55] <darkrift411> so something is wrong
[03:56] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, how about this, tpye iwconfig
[03:56] <coreymon77> and give me the output
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> not necessarily
[03:56] <coreymon77> darkrift411: are you behind any sort of firewall?
[03:56] <darkrift411> for the first 20 seconds, i hit 350k
[03:56] <darkrift411> yes, but i have ports forwarded properly
[03:56] <darkrift411> and i get good speeds all the time
[03:57] <darkrift411> up to 1400k sometimes
[03:58] <Arwen> darkrift411, maybe you've been banned?
[03:58] <darkrift411> erm
[03:58] <Arwen> and they're "peers" not "leechers"
[03:58] <darkrift411> for what?
[03:58] <coreymon77> darkrift411: obviously just crappy seeds then
[03:58] <sweettooth> coreymon77, please have a look again, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27544/
[03:58] <Arwen> unless they're actually leeching of course
[03:58] <darkrift411> some torrent sites use the term leechers
[03:58] <darkrift411> so it stuck
[03:58] <darkrift411> lol
[03:58] <sweettooth> coreymon77, eth1 is wireless
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent
[03:58] <coreymon77>  i know
[03:59] <darkrift411> kdesu konqueror ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent
[03:59] <darkrift411> erm
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> there are directories in there for your torrents.  finding the right one could be a pain.
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[03:59] <coreymon77> i take it the router is a linksys one, right?
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> why the hell do you need kdesu?
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry about the language
[03:59] <sweettooth> coreymon77, that's right
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> it's your home directory
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't need to run it as su
[03:59] <darkrift411> i get tired of locked files
[03:59] <darkrift411> heh
[03:59] <modjo> has anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?
[04:00] <coreymon77> sweettooth: can you give me the manufacturers website for your laptop, i may be able to find out more info from that
[04:00] <darkrift411> that location doesnt exist :s
[04:00] <darkrift411> oh
[04:00] <darkrift411> nvm
[04:01] <modjo> has anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?
[04:01] <dranas> i got a question, how do i add the universe repo my source list?
[04:01] <modjo> you must edit the repo list
[04:01] <modjo> in sudo mode
[04:02] <dranas> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse
[04:02] <dranas> is that what i add?
[04:02] <intelikey> well. i have reloaded for the fourth time in two days trying to get the kinks jerked out of this tosheba !
[04:02] <darkrift411> i cant find any torrents in there
[04:02] <modjo> has anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?
[04:02] <darkrift411> ill just find it again
[04:03] <sweettooth> coreymon77, http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/tm3000.htm
[04:04] <coreymon77> i see
[04:04] <coreymon77> its an intel card
[04:04] <intelikey> needless to say, i'm not fit to talk to today.
[04:04] <dranas> i just dont know what to add to get the universe repo
[04:05] <modjo> has anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?
[04:05] <intelikey> dranas you add "universe"
[04:05] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I don't blame you.
[04:05] <dranas> i mean the whole line
[04:05] <dranas> this is what i got so far
[04:05] <dranas> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse
[04:05] <coreymon77> sweettooth: you jsut want your network to auto connect on boot right?
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: is that the one that had vista on it?
[04:06] <dranas> do i delete the word multiverse?
[04:06] <intelikey> dranas you don't need to add a line.  jsut a word
[04:06] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I had to reinstall kubuntu 6 times when I first tried dapper, trying to get my wireless card to work
[04:06] <dranas> well it has universe and multiverse, do i delete the word multiverse?
[04:06] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i usually use wireless at work with a different network, however, if so, what shall i do?
[04:06] <coreymon77> oh
[04:06] <coreymon77> well then
[04:06] <intelikey> dranas example:    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted    <<< that to this >>>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[04:07] <sweettooth> coreymon77, besides i want to know why it didn't detect the wireless network at times
[04:07] <dranas> so deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse  is corect then?
[04:07] <sweettooth> i have to restart and pray sometimes :(
[04:07] <coreymon77> sweettooth: personally, i dont use knetworkmanager, i just use kwifimanager
[04:07] <intelikey> dranas that added both universe and multiverse  to the repos for a dapper system
[04:07] <michael_m> can someone help me with a slow boot problem???
[04:07] <dranas> hmmm
[04:07] <coreymon77> sweettooth: wouldnt a simple iwconfig command work?
[04:07] <intelikey> dranas in answer to your Q yes
[04:08] <sweettooth> coreymon77, if i load both on, would they crash?
[04:08] <sweettooth> that's the thing, even i typed iwlist eth1 scanning, it doesn't seem to scan any network at all
[04:09] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay then, and does running the iwconfig command to connect not work?
[04:09] <sweettooth> coreymon77, im not too sure, cos i have never tried it, i will give it a go next time, heh
[04:09] <sweettooth> so what do you think is the problem?
[04:10] <coreymon77> sweettooth: it may actually be your network card thats doing it
[04:10] <TeraDyne> Does anyone know of a good desktop blogging app that works with the new Blogger?
[04:10] <coreymon77> sweettooth: but there is something that may help
[04:10] <sweettooth> coreymon77, any guidance would be grateful
[04:12] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, open system settings and then into network settings
[04:13] <sweettooth> coreymon77, yup
[04:13] <Arwen> TeraDyne, uh, kate
[04:13] <coreymon77> sweettooth: click on administrator mode and enter your password
[04:13] <intelikey> !paste > dranas
[04:13] <michael_m> can someone please help me with a slow boot
[04:13] <michael_m> ?
[04:14] <sweettooth> coreymon77, done
[04:14] <TeraDyne> Arwen: ? Could you infrom me as to how I can post to my blog from kate?
[04:14] <Arwen> yes, write your story..... upload it... voila
[04:14] <Arwen> (doing)
[04:15] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, so, what appears in the list in the network settings window
[04:15] <intelikey> michael_m take out the networking and see if that was the reason for the delay.   ?    sudo update-rc.d network remove    you can put it back the same way
[04:16] <coreymon77> sweettooth: oh, btw, do you know the essid (network name), wep key (network password if you have one), default gateway (the routers ip address), and dns server of both of the networks you connect to (your home and your office)?
[04:16] <TeraDyne> No, I mean something like BloGTK, where I don't need a browser. Konqueror tends to randomly crash while writing my entries for some reason.
[04:17] <TeraDyne> And I don't want to install SeaMonkey just to write in my blog.
[04:17] <Arwen> so install firefox?
[04:17] <sweettooth> i know the one from home
[04:17] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay
[04:17] <sweettooth> i guess i can find out other info when im back at office tomorrow
[04:17] <coreymon77> sweettooth: well then i will only be able to do this for your home network
[04:17] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Firefox.... *shudders* No thanks. That hog won't be finding itself on my laptop anytime soon.
[04:18] <sweettooth> coreymon77, that's cool
[04:18] <Arwen> firefox... hog... how?
[04:18] <Arwen> for one, foxes eat hogs
[04:18] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i have network connections, proxy, connection preferences, and zeroconf service discovery on the left side
[04:18] <s1imas1> what is kubuntu system requoest ?
[04:19] <coreymon77> sweettooth: i meant the interfaces list in Network Connections
[04:19] <TeraDyne> Arwen: anytime I run FF, anything after 1.0.4 anyway, on my laptop, it immediately starts using up a ton of memory, so much so that it starts to use swap..
[04:19] <coreymon77> sweettooth: there is only one device in that list right?
[04:19] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i have eth0 and eth1
[04:20] <Arwen> ...funny, I must have a magic firefox then. It always stays stable at 10% RAM usage...
[04:20] <coreymon77> Arwen: me too
[04:20] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, is your work connection wireless aswell?
[04:20] <Arwen> coreymon77, we're magic! lol
[04:20] <coreymon77> sweettooth: do they both use eth1
[04:20] <sweettooth> coreymon77, the wireless at work is using eth1
[04:20] <TeraDyne> Arwen: I've had it hit 30% several times, and stay there. It might be because I have about 20 tabs open at any one time.
[04:20] <coreymon77> sweettooth: aoky
[04:21] <Arwen> hint: if your RAM isn't being used, it's wasting your money
[04:21] <Arwen> just a thought
[04:21] <sweettooth> firefox is slow in xp in my case
[04:21] <sweettooth> lol
[04:21] <shdq> :D
[04:21] <Arwen> lol, cmon, no need to troll, even on a Linux channel
[04:22] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, so click on eth1. and click configure
[04:22] <sweettooth> to be fair, i have only just swapped to kubuntu, and it does rock :)
[04:22] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Here's the thing. Firefox uses 20% of memory easy, while seamonkey uses 10% at most.
[04:22] <Arwen> here's the thing: if your memory isn't being used, it's being wasted
[04:22] <Arwen> just a thought
[04:22] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Then again, I always compile my own copy of seamonkey, anyway.
[04:22] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37745
[04:22] <TeraDyne> Arwen: That's the problem. It uses too much.
[04:22] <sweettooth> coreymon77, yup, do i just put the essid and the key?
[04:23] <Arwen> anyway, we could go on and on about FF...
[04:23] <TeraDyne> Arwen: true.
[04:23] <Arwen> you can reduce the memory usage in config if you want... it's just cache for fast rendering
[04:23] <coreymon77> sweettooth: well, do you have a static ip?
[04:23] <sweettooth> no, the router dynamically assign an internal ip for my laptop
[04:23] <sweettooth> coreymon77, but for the internet connection, yes
[04:24] <coreymon77> sweettooth: i mean for the network,
[04:24] <coreymon77> sweettooth: is it static or assigned by DNS
[04:24] <TeraDyne> Arwen: I tried that. I couldn't get it to go below 17% even with it set so that it wouldn't cache.
[04:25] <sweettooth> it is assigned by DNS
[04:25] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Meh, I think I'll just compile seamonkey.
[04:25] <sweettooth> coreymon77, it is assigned by DNS
[04:25] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, so just put in your essid and wep key
[04:26] <sweettooth> coreymon77, done ;)
[04:26] <coreymon77> sweettooth: now go to routes and put in the default gateway
[04:27] <intelikey> !ati > dranas
[04:27] <sweettooth> coreymon77, also done
[04:27] <s1imas1> what is kubuntu system requoest ?
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: now go to the dns tab and put in your dns('s)
[04:28] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i think mine is already there
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: good
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: now go to network profiles
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: are there any there?
[04:29] <sweettooth> coreymon77, no, its blank, should i create a new and save it?
[04:29] <coreymon77> sweettooth: create one called "home" and save it
[04:30] <sweettooth> coreymon77, done
[04:30] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, now press apply
[04:30] <sweettooth> yup
[04:30] <sweettooth> coreymon77, that's it?
[04:31] <crazy_bus> I've got a mp4 I downloaded off google video.  It plays in kaffeine but I cant change the timer position and can only watch it from the start to the end.  Is there any way to fix this?
[04:31] <coreymon77> sweettooth: good, now, whenyou get to work, do the same thing we just did, but replace the info from your home network with the info for your work network
[04:31] <Arwen> crazy_bus, yes, get a player with better support for MPEG-4 Part 14 (mp4)
[04:31] <Arwen> like maybe mplayer
[04:31] <coreymon77> sweettooth: then save that as the "work" or "office" profile
[04:31] <coreymon77> and whenever you change places
[04:31] <coreymon77> just go and choose the right profile and click apply
[04:32] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay?
[04:32] <sweettooth> coreymon77, ic, that's brilliant m8, thx for your patience and help :)
[04:32] <coreymon77> sweettooth: also, if that doesnt work
[04:32] <sweettooth> yea?
[04:32] <coreymon77> sweettooth: run the iwconfig command
[04:32] <sweettooth> yup, will do
[04:32] <sweettooth> thx a lot again
[04:32] <coreymon77> sweettooth: that being sudo iwconfig eth1 essid [your essid]  key [your wep key]
[04:32] <crazy_bus> all other mp4's play properly in kaffeine?  Its only the one I downloaded directly from google video that has problems
[04:33] <Tenerifedave> hello all, i am currently using vnc to my computer from another on the network but it is very slow and file transfer goes up to a max of say 900kbps is this normal?
[04:33] <sweettooth> coreymon77, okie dokie, i will have a go with it nxt time :)
[04:33] <coreymon77> sweettooth: no problem, its what im here for, anything goes wrong just give me a shout
[04:34] <Tenerifedave> i'm using wireless by the way if it makes any difference
[04:34] <coreymon77> sweettooth: see if the profile thing works first though
[04:34] <DaSkreech> sweettooth: I am Calypso Muwahahahaha
[04:34] <Arwen> crazy_bus, then maybe it's a nonstandard implementation of MP4?
[04:34] <Arwen> anyway, try another player
[04:34] <sweettooth> coreymon77, will do, i will restart and test it, thx
[04:34] <Arwen> if it's not seekable, you can always extract the audio/video and make a fresh mp4
[04:34] <sweettooth> hi DaSkreech
[04:35] <Tenerifedave> what sort of transfer rates does everyone get on wireless?
[04:35] <Arwen> about 5MB/s...
[04:35] <Arwen> (max)
[04:36] <coreymon77> Tenerifedave: are both of the computers on the same network?
[04:36] <Tenerifedave> yeah
[04:36] <coreymon77> Tenerifedave: then waht are you using vnc for, just connect to the computer directly
[04:36] <coreymon77> Tenerifedave: over the LAN
[04:36] <Tenerifedave> i use wireless in my house
[04:37] <Tenerifedave> for networking
[04:37] <Tenerifedave> its just i am only getting say 900kbps max transfer
[04:38] <Arwen> could just be weak wifi
[04:38] <Arwen> or if you're talking smb, low speeds are normal
[04:38] <Tenerifedave> its ftp
[04:38] <Tenerifedave> but maybe the wireless
[04:38] <Tenerifedave> it is a couple of years old now
[04:38] <Arwen> hmm, yeah, what wifi protocol version?
[04:39] <Tenerifedave> ermm what ones are there?
[04:39] <Tenerifedave> sorry im a noob lol
[04:39] <Arwen> dunno myself, lol
[04:39] <Arwen> just that one of em ends in "a", another in "b", another in "g", and another in "n"
[04:39] <Tenerifedave> ahh
[04:39] <Tenerifedave> well its b/g
[04:40] <Arwen> ah, how far are you from the source? and do you have protected mode on in the router?
[04:40] <Tenerifedave> well i have a arial coming down and its hanging across the room
[04:41] <Tenerifedave> every computer is excellent put it that way
[04:41] <drgonzo> hey fellas, Is there anyway to setup kmail to group messages by day/week/month like outlook?
[04:41] <Arwen> Tenerifedave, hmm, well, maybe it's just phony wifi? does performance increase if you switch to Ethernet?
[04:41] <Tenerifedave> and protected mode: its not a router, just a hub
[04:41] <Tenerifedave> havent tried just ethernet
[04:41] <Tenerifedave> maybe a crap wifi
[04:42] <Tenerifedave> need to get a new one me thinks
[04:42] <Tenerifedave> it also cuts off sometimes
[04:42] <DaSkreech> TeraDyne: install Netscape
[04:42] <Tenerifedave> need to reset it
[04:42] <DaSkreech> easy to install easy to blow away
[04:42] <hasan> is there anybody who use kmldonkey?
[04:42] <hasan> or any other client?
[04:42] <drgonzo> i use it
[04:43] <hasan> how can  add servers?
[04:43] <hasan> there are only 3 servers available
[04:43] <drgonzo> i add it via the gui
[04:43] <hasan> do i have to enter every server name manually one by one?
[04:43] <hasan> one by one?
[04:43] <drgonzo> no you can provide a file
[04:43] <hasan> how can i do that?
[04:43] <drgonzo> umm may i suggest #kmldonkey
[04:44] <hasan> from a .met file?
[04:44] <hasan> ja sur
[04:44] <Arwen> BluesKaj, you should confiscate laptops and PCs on sight!
[04:44] <Arwen> :-P
[04:45] <cWolfe> seriously, am I the only person with fiesty that can't burn a file bigger than 4GB on a dl dvd?
[04:45] <Arwen> cWolfe, dunno, did you change the fs mode to "UDF - Large Files"?
[04:45] <cWolfe> yes
[04:45] <Arwen> meh, dunno then. Try splitting the file?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> Arwen, I'm a grandfather, my kids are grown with their own kids to worry about... so i don't :)
[04:46] <DaSkreech> s1imas1: What?
[04:46] <cWolfe> :( i was hoping i wouldnt have to
[04:46] <Arwen> BluesKaj, not what I meant, lol
[04:46] <Arwen> if you confiscated em, you could build a massive Beowulf cluster!
[04:47] <BluesKaj> ok , what did you mean Arwen ? ... it went over my head :)
[04:47] <Arwen> never mind, it's over mine too
[04:47] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: I so read that as bathrooms :)
[04:48] <Schuenemann> brazil 0x2 mxico *sigh*
[04:48] <BluesKaj> beowulf...oh yeah
[04:50] <BluesKaj> neighbours have wifi , constantly complaining about probs ...so i decided to hardwire altho i do have wireless options
[04:50] <Arwen> BluesKaj, you were stealing their wifi? lol
[04:51] <BluesKaj> you know Arwen , i prolly could :)
[04:51] <BluesKaj> windows surfers
[04:53] <DaSkreech> heehee
[04:54] <DaSkreech> I love how using windows automatically makes you inept and using apple automatically makes you elitist
[04:54] <n8k99> -but you can get them in pink!!
[04:54] <Arwen> hehe
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> Arwen: it's called an airbrush :P
[04:54] <Arwen> hehe
[04:57] <drgonzo> does anyone know what I mean. Maybe i should elabourate. In outlook you it it group messages by day/week/year/ etc so can that can be expanded and closed on convienence Can this be done with kmail?
[04:57] <drgonzo> elaborate*
[04:58] <BluesKaj> drgonzo, why don't you look at the kmail manual..it's quite extensive ..lots of options
[04:58] <drgonzo> ok
[04:58] <dwidmann> drgonzo: I don't see a way to do it exactly that way, but I know a way you can filter it th at way
[04:59] <dwidmann> in the filter box near the top, type in something like "today" if you want to see todays messages, or yesterday for yesterdays, otherwise use the date as it appears in the date column
[05:00] <dwidmann> oh, wait, you can also use days of the same week, ie: sunday, monday, etc
[05:01] <drgonzo> filter box?
[05:02] <dwidmann> should be right next to the word search
[05:02] <drgonzo> oh search
[05:02] <BluesKaj> sacktime for me...nite all , take care.
[05:03] <dwidmann> it's looking to be about time for me to go to bed too :(
[05:03] <drgonzo> cheers
[05:04] <dwidmann> later folks
[05:16] <devnull> !wine
[05:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:18] <hiyah> !ftp
[05:18] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[05:18] <hiyah> hi i need to setup a ftp server, which package shd i use?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> !kasablanca
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <DaSkreech> Lying bot
[05:19] <TeraDyne> !FTPd
[05:19] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[05:19] <hiyah> which one are typically used?
[05:20] <hiyah> proftpd?
[05:22] <mneptok> hiyah: why an FTP server?
[05:22] <mneptok> hiyah: do you need to give access to anonymous users?
[05:22] <TeraDyne> !info proftpd | hiyah
[05:22] <ubotu> hiyah: proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-21ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 765 kB, installed size 2276 kB
[05:23] <hiyah> no i don't want anonymous to come in.. specific users
[05:23] <hiyah> just installed proftpd
[05:23] <TeraDyne> Have the filezilla guys ported their ftp server over to linux yet?
[05:24] <mneptok> i hope not
[05:24] <mneptok> hiyah: do you need to give access to anonymous users?
[05:24] <TeraDyne> mneptok: why not?
[05:24] <hiyah> mneptok: no..
[05:24] <mneptok> hiyah: then do not use FTP
[05:24] <mneptok> SFTP/SCP is what you want
[05:25] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:25] <mneptok> then use any SFTP client (like Filezilla) to login
[05:25] <TeraDyne> what about vsftpd?
[05:25] <TeraDyne> !info vsftpd
[05:25] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 408 kB
[05:25] <mneptok> it's still FTP
[05:25] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to readd items removed from the kmenu?
[05:26] <mneptok> if you don't need anonymous access you should not use FTP
[05:26] <hiyah> mneptok: i need to let windows ftp clients to come in.. can openssh do that?
[05:26] <mneptok> hiyah: Filezilla
[05:26] <Carnage\> secleinteer: What items in particular?
[05:26] <hiyah> ok... i've already got openssh
[05:26] <mneptok> hiyah: http://filezilla.sf.net
[05:26] <Carnage\> Just links to programs?
[05:26] <TeraDyne> mneptok:  good point. I keep forgetting that tip.
[05:26] <evsophomore2009> Can anyone help me out with Limewire?
[05:27] <secleinteer> Carnage\: kmail
[05:27] <TeraDyne> !ask | evsophomore2009
[05:27] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:27] <hiyah> mneptok: ok thanks :>
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> anyone familiar with linux usenet software?
[05:27] <Carnage\> secleinteer: Rightclick on a menu entry and select "Edit Menu..."?
[05:27] <evsophomore2009> TeraDyne: Are you familiar with LimeWire?
[05:27] <mneptok> hiyah: np. encrypted traffic is *always* better for you, the admin, than cleartext ;)
[05:28] <Arwen> lol @ LimeWarez
[05:28] <mneptok> Daisuke_Ido: i use Pan. i believe the KDE PIM suite has a Usenet client
[05:28] <TeraDyne> evsophomore2009: just ask what you're having problems with. someone is bound to know how to help, or where to go to get help.
[05:29] <secleinteer> Carnage\: to restore an item, not to create a new one
[05:29] <hiyah> mneptok: all the while my users are using linux to ssh and rsync in.. didn't know that filezilla can do transfer via windows
[05:29] <evsophomore2009> Okay, on LimeWire when i play a few songs, at the end of the song, it maks an error noise and i cant play music untill i re-start LimeWire...anyone know how to fix it?
[05:29] <mneptok> hiyah: yup. Filezilla is an SFTP client in addition to FTP
[05:30] <Arwen> evsophomore2009, use a real media player
[05:30] <Carnage\> secleinteer: If it's deleted, it's deleted, I think :)
[05:31] <evsophomore2009> Arwen: well i need to use Limewire so i can download songs....duh
[05:31] <Arwen> warez is bad...
[05:31] <evsophomore2009> Warez.....
[05:31] <hiyah> mneptok: yeah as long as it will work on windows.. does it support resuming?
[05:32] <mneptok> hiyah: no idea. i use Linux. :)
[05:32] <secleinteer> Carnage\: it's not deleted, because the *.desktop files aren't stored on the separate user accounts, they're in /usr/share/applications, and certain *.desktop files are "excluded" when you "delete" them through the GUI
[05:32] <evsophomore2009> Anyone good with Wine and iTunes?
[05:32] <Arwen> wine + itunes = no
[05:32] <Arwen> you can run up to version 4, but after that, just give up
[05:32] <evsophomore2009> why is it a No?
[05:32] <hiyah> mneptok: SFTP means openssh-server compatible?
[05:32] <Arwen> ^^
[05:32] <Tm_T> Amarok <3
[05:33] <TeraDyne> Tm_T: amen.
[05:33] <intelikey> vlc
[05:33] <mneptok> hiyah: SFTP = secure FTP = OpenSSH
[05:33] <evsophomore2009> Version 4
[05:33] <evsophomore2009> ?
[05:33] <Arwen> lol @ vlc, it doesn't even play subtitles and matroska right
[05:33] <Arwen> evsophomore2009, yes, v4
[05:34] <intelikey> Arwen it doesn't even need non-free help... :)
[05:34] <Arwen> mplayer > vlc
[05:34] <Arwen> :-)
[05:34] <hiyah> mneptok: ic..ok i'll try filezilla brb
[05:34] <Arwen> but anyway, that's not the point
[05:35] <evsophomore2009> Version 4 works?
[05:35] <intelikey> i just need to argue with something besides this tosheba for a while.
[05:35] <mneptok> evsophomore2009: Limewire is a P2P app. stop sending it to do a media player's job. ;)
[05:35] <evsophomore2009> mneptok: well it has a media player for a reason
[05:35] <Arwen> evsophomore2009, more or less
[05:35] <DaSkreech> WMP > *
[05:36] <mneptok> evsophomore2009: oh? what's the reason?
[05:36] <Arwen> evsophomore2009, and yeah, the reason it has a media player is so that it can be even more bloaty
[05:36] <Carnage\> secleinteer: Oh, then you could create a new entry and copy the content from the "deleted" *.desktop to the new one
[05:36] <intelikey> mozilla ?
[05:36] <intelikey> :)
[05:37] <TeraDyne> intelikey: what about mozilla?
[05:37] <secleinteer> Carnage\: but i don't know where to place this file
[05:37] <intelikey> "even more bloaty"
[05:37] <evsophomore2009> mneptok: to listen to the audio.
[05:37] <mneptok> secleinteer: what app are you trying to unhide?
[05:38] <secleinteer> mneptok: kmail
[05:38] <evsophomore2009> Arwen: Bloaty?
[05:38] <Arwen> yes, bloaty bloaty bloat
[05:38] <mneptok> secleinteer: that's not in the menus. Kontact is.
[05:38] <TeraDyne> intelikey: Which app are you talking about? If you mean how Firefox has become bloated, I'll agree there.
[05:38] <dr_willis> 'bloaty' a vague term thats always used as a insult to software when you cant come up with any other valid arguments.
[05:38] <secleinteer> mneptok: then why is there a KMail.desktop file under /usr/share/applications ?
[05:38] <dr_willis> one mans bloat - is anothers must have eye candy.
[05:39] <mneptok> evsophomore2009: so if i add a 38 metric ton telescope to a car so "that you can see the sky better through the sunroof" you'd embrace it as a good idea and buy one?
[05:39] <evsophomore2009> ew no
[05:39] <mneptok> secleinteer: it's in a hidden state by default. edit that .desktop app stub with a text editor to unhide it.
[05:39] <dr_willis> 'arguments through absurdity' dosent really prove much.
[05:40] <intelikey> apt-get install mozilla     79m dl     apt-get install dillo 600k dl        what is bloat anyway ?
[05:40] <mneptok> dr_willis: "reductio ad absurdum" is the term you want ;)
[05:40] <dr_willis> mneptok,  hes going the other way
[05:40] <TeraDyne> intelikey: the mozilla package is 79m?
[05:40] <secleinteer> mneptok: what do i need to remove from the config file?
[05:40] <Arwen> mozilla is 79M? wtf?
[05:41] <mneptok> secleinteer: NoDisplay=true
[05:41] <secleinteer> mneptok: ok, will try that
[05:41] <dr_willis> ive seen worse. :)
[05:41] <intelikey> TeraDyne plus it's deps for this system  "package size is 11.8MB"
[05:42] <dr_willis> printer drivers for my printer/scanner under windows - was over 125mb compressed.
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Arwen: Why are you acting surprised Netscape was as big as some distros
[05:42] <Arwen> hmm
[05:42] <TeraDyne> intelikey: ah, that explains it.
[05:43] <intelikey> TeraDyne that's package size it expands to  36.4MB unpacked
[05:43] <Tenerifedave> anyone know about an error when trying to use sudo, says "sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory" :-/
[05:43] <carutsu> Arwen: it's the hole suite, browser, mail, calendar, ...
[05:43] <Arwen> ah
[05:43] <mneptok> *whole
[05:43] <carutsu> whole?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Tenerifedave: What command?
[05:43] <Tenerifedave> sudo apt-get
[05:44] <carutsu> mneptok: oops i didn't know, thank you :P
[05:44] <Tenerifedave> or sudo apt-cache
[05:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> I just want to state that the second life linux ver. runs great..   but the game still absolutely sucks..  I must be missing something
[05:44] <Tenerifedave> or anything i think
[05:44] <dr_willis> Guilty_as_Sin,  no.. the game sucks... :0
[05:44] <dr_willis> Guilty_as_Sin,  its just a time sink.. plain and simple..
[05:44] <dr_willis> Guilty_as_Sin,  sort of like... err... IRC! :)
[05:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> ok, thanks for the input..   I have to admit..  got a lil curious
[05:45] <Tenerifedave> DaSkreech: "
[05:45] <Tenerifedave> dave is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[05:45] <Tenerifedave> dave@computer:~$ sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[05:45] <Tenerifedave> sorry for the flood
[05:45] <TeraDyne> dr_willis: agreed, except the IRC part. At least I learn stuff on IRC.
[05:45] <TeraDyne> Tenerifedave: if that was a flood, then I've seen worse from people typing things in by hand.
[05:46] <Tenerifedave> lol
[05:46] <intelikey> !info mozilla-browser
[05:46] <ubotu> Package mozilla-browser does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:46] <intelikey> !info mozilla-browser dapper
[05:46] <intelikey> !info dillo dapper
[05:46] <ubotu> mozilla-browser: The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 9658 kB, installed size 29448 kB
[05:46] <ubotu> dillo: Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 339 kB, installed size 928 kB
[05:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> speaking of FF..  mine needs some tweaking..
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Tenerifedave: Maybe you should be in the sudoers file :)
[05:46] <Tenerifedave> i think so too, where is it?
[05:47] <Tenerifedave> i was in it though thats the thing :-/
[05:47] <dr_willis> in /etc with all the other system config files... :)
[05:47] <Tenerifedave> ok thanks i'll check it out
[05:47] <dr_willis> first user made during install is included.
[05:47] <intelikey> "29448 kB"   not right.  "30.2MB"  i just checked.  that's the patched one i guess.   takes a little more space.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Guilty_as_Sin: it's a social experiment. If you are into it great if not in 86 years when we are all forced to move our concious minds into a virtual domain run on TCPM then you can stage a protest
[05:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> say wha'
[05:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> no protest, just got ma' feet wet is all
[05:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> not my gig
[05:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> I do think it's a great project..  just needs some fine tuning
[05:49] <Tenerifedave> what shall I put into the sudoers file? I dont want to muck it up and give me root all the time kinda thing
[05:49] <dr_willis> man sudoers :)
[05:49] <Tenerifedave> good idea
[05:49] <Minataku> Heya, dr_willis
[05:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> if I could have got off that lil four island deal they have there for cheapo's like myself..  it might have been fun
[05:50] <Minataku> Guests still there?
[05:50] <dr_willis> Minataku,  yep.
[05:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> <--cheap by nature... not by heart
[05:50] <Minataku> dr_willis: That sucks
[05:50] <dr_willis> got a 5 yr old tagging along my very move... wanting to feed my 'ish'
[05:50] <Minataku> o.O
[05:51] <dr_willis> hes cute. :) but gets annoying after the first hour
[05:51] <Minataku> Heh
[05:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> that's kinda mean
[05:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> but totally understand
[05:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have two in diapers
[05:52] <Minataku> dr_willis: I'll wait until after they've all left to bother you about the Amigas again
[05:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> anyways..  I'm OT  sorry
[05:52] <Minataku> Not counting this instance, of course
[05:52] <Minataku> >.>
[05:53] <dr_willis> Minataku,  i got a Pool table... you want it... ? :)
[05:53] <Minataku> Haha
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah!@
[05:53] <Minataku> That would cost WAY too much to ship X3
[05:53] <dr_willis> weighs like 300lb.
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'll take her
[05:53] <Minataku> Let Guilty_as_Sin have it
[05:53] <Minataku> I want those Amigas :3
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> slate is heavy stuff
[05:53] <emonkey-f> lb is that pounds?
[05:53] <Minataku> No, it's "libraries"
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes
[05:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> oic
[05:54] <Minataku> It weights 300 libraries
[05:54] <Minataku> j/k
[05:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> lmao
[05:54] <Arwen> hah
[05:54] <Minataku> Yeah, lbs is pounds
[05:54] <emonkey-f>
[05:54] <Minataku> Blame Latin
[05:54] <emonkey-f> I see GB is here
[05:54] <emonkey-f> I'll come to GB in 3 weeks
[05:55] <Guilty_as_Sin> <buys a round for the house>  (because virtual dollars spend so much easier)
[05:56] <Minataku> But yeah, dr_willis, take your time on those Amigas, I don't want to stress you more than you no doubt already are XD
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Guilty_as_Sin: More things that Second life is good at :)
[06:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> DaSkreech What's that?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Virtual Dollars spending easy
[06:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> oic
[06:03] <devnull> !wine
[06:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:03] <Minataku> I just emerged 0.9.39 :D
[06:03] <Guilty_as_Sin> wine is great till you get an EA game (in my experiences alone)
[06:03] <devnull> hehe
[06:03] <devnull> yeah i've used it before
[06:03] <devnull> Got a home design program for my fiance
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Guilty_as_Sin: Yeah if Dumb EA would just make NFS and sims work on Linux I could get like 40 peopel to jump ship
[06:04] <devnull> And don't feel like booting into winblows
[06:04] <DaSkreech> devnull: Really?
[06:04] <DaSkreech> devnull: Oh I thought You meant one for Linux :-(
[06:04] <roho> what's the name of the emulator that does everything? something mess
[06:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> my stepdaughter has a sims problem..  do they have a 12 step for that yet?
[06:04] <devnull> DaSkreech, I wish man
[06:04] <DaSkreech> There are a whole set of things that should just exist for Linux that don't :(
[06:04] <devnull> =(
[06:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> I went with the *reclaim the other half your hard drive plan myself
[06:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> fuke windoze
[06:06] <devnull> Well I have 2 drives
[06:06] <devnull> 80GB linux, 40GB winblows
[06:06] <Guilty_as_Sin> still have it on the wifey's lappy..  but her orbicam don't work..   and her ati graphic card is a total p.i.t.a.
[06:06] <Guilty_as_Sin> herherm..  <acer>
[06:07] <Minataku> Heh
[06:07] <Minataku> I'm still seeing nVidia be the choice
[06:07] <devnull> I told my fiance
[06:07] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah.. that is what I have on here
[06:07] <Minataku> They WANT to make their drivers open, from what I've heard
[06:08] <devnull> We will not be using windows in our household. You will get used to, learn to like, and use linux. Plain and simple.
[06:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> jus' an ole' fx5500 but she's still hittin'
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Good luck with that :)
[06:08] <Minataku> But they contracted out and such and are kinda stuck under NDAs
[06:08] <Minataku> devnull: Nice to hear
[06:08] <DaSkreech> devnull: You sound like Ian :)
[06:08] <Minataku> Get a console for gaming
[06:08] <DaSkreech> PS3 !!
[06:08] <emonkey-f> I hope that the new Intel cards will be much better than the Ati an Nvidia...
[06:08] <devnull> hehe
[06:08] <DaSkreech> You can install Linux on it :)
[06:08] <Minataku> ...
[06:08] <Minataku> The PS3 is a complete failure
[06:08] <DaSkreech> emonkey-f: They will make a heck of a lot more money
[06:08] <Maxdamantus> Minataku, no it's not.
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> Only for gaming,.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Minataku: :-P You can install Linux on it :)
[06:09] <devnull> I love linux. I love the power behind it, and I love the scalability.
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> People buy them in bulks for servers and stuff. :d
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Maxdamantus: I heard the Govt bought a bunch to cluster
[06:09] <DaSkreech> IBM must be pissed
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> Lol.
[06:09] <darvi_> ummmmmmm
[06:09] <DaSkreech> intelikey: It's Toaster
[06:09] <DaSkreech> WITH XML!
[06:10] <Maxdamantus> I've booted Linux on my PSP. :d
[06:10] <Maxdamantus> No X though.
[06:10] <Minataku> Yeah, because installing Linux on proprietary hardware is a good idea </sarcasm>
[06:10] <Maxdamantus> And didn't have a keyboard I could attatch to it.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Bring on the open source hardware and We will be loving it
[06:10] <evsophomore2009> i need to uninstall Quicktime, i tried "Sudo apt-get remove Quicktime" and it didnt work, i also tried "Add & Remove Programs"
[06:10] <evsophomore2009> Any Help?"
[06:11] <devnull> Minataku, But people buy this stuff. It is their choice what they do with it.
[06:11] <DaSkreech> !codecs | evsophomore2009
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> evsophomore2009, try "quicktime"
[06:11] <DaSkreech> devnull: Not if you ask the guys holding the money when they walk out
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> All packages in Ubuntu are lower case.
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> And case sensitive.
[06:11] <intelikey> i kinda want to build a linux OBD* reader
[06:11] <DaSkreech> OBD ?
[06:11] <intelikey> automotive obd#
[06:11] <evsophomore2009> E: Couldn't find package quicktime
[06:11] <DaSkreech> ubotu: Wake up!
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> Alternatively, in a terminal, try typing "quicktime", then pressing tab twice, incase it's suffixed by some version numbers.
[06:11] <Guilty_as_Sin> don't think I've yet to bother w/ quicktime on this particular install
[06:12] <Maxdamantus> "quicktime" is an apt package.
[06:12] <Maxdamantus> evsophomore2009, did you install it using apt?
[06:12] <Guilty_as_Sin> need to since my vlc install has yet to handle quicktime
[06:12] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:12] <rockets> Anybody know a good OSX theme
[06:12] <rockets> NOT baghira
[06:13] <byonix> hi, do anyone have difficulty joining undernet.org?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Maxdamantus: It is?
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> no i installed quicktime during the install of iTunes with Wine, but that didnt work\
[06:13] <intelikey> !botsnooze ?
[06:13] <devnull> you could always do: sudo apt-get remove quicktime quicktime-*
[06:13] <Guilty_as_Sin> itunes is poop
[06:13] <Maxdamantus> DaSkreech, apparently, yes.
[06:13] <devnull> that should probably cover about everything.
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> well i like iTunes
[06:13] <Maxdamantus> Wait, no it's not.
[06:13] <rockets> itunes is great
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> cute
[06:13] <DaSkreech> knee jerk reaction :)
[06:13] <Maxdamantus> quicktime4linux-utils quicktime-utils quicktime-x11utils
[06:14] <Maxdamantus> Netsplit Xd
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Ubotu :)
[06:14] <evsophomore2009> im kinda sick of every sigle person that uses Linux always gives me crap about iTunes
[06:14] <DaSkreech> that would explain that
[06:14] <evsophomore2009> i want it, and dont bitch
[06:14] <evsophomore2009> im just asking for help, not your apponion
[06:14] <intelikey> ubotu   was desyncd
[06:14] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: I won't anymore :)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Yeah
[06:14] <roho> well, one thing about itunes is that you can pretty much get any song you want and it's easy.
[06:14] <Guilty_as_Sin> not giving you crap..   just can't imagine there being a reason for it
[06:14] <evsophomore2009> Okay sorry about the attitude
[06:14] <rockets> evsophomore2009: hey, I'm on your side man. I think iTunes owns amarok, rhythmbox, exaile, banshee, etc/
[06:15] <roho> many other mp3 places make you subscribe or put down a minimum balance
[06:15] <evsophomore2009> thanks you! i hate Amarok
[06:15] <roho> ok, now that's where we disagree
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about was desyncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <evsophomore2009> Rockets: Do you know how to install iTunes with Wine? it dosent work for me
[06:15] <rockets> evsophomore2009: Amarok is good in theory, but the interface is SO UGLY
[06:15] <rockets> evsophomore2009: nope never tried, i settled for amarok/rhythmbox
[06:15] <evsophomore2009> yeah it is
[06:15] <intelikey> !opsnack
[06:15] <ubotu> Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[06:15] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: The Wine page probably has a walkthrough
[06:15] <TeraDyne> evsophomore2009: Why do you hate amarok?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !botslap
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <evsophomore2009> its annoying
[06:16] <rockets> amarok is good its just ugly as hell
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Why isn't that implemented yet :-(
[06:16] <roho> it would be cool if amarok had a buy mp3 thingy
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> evsophomore2009, Try crossover-linux
[06:16] <Ramon> is there a way to auto detect my hardware?
[06:16] <evsophomore2009> Crossover-linux?
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> It's like Wine, but improved for some products.
[06:16] <Ramon> it is not detecting it when it is starting
[06:16] <DaSkreech> roho: it does
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> iTunes being one of them.
[06:16] <rockets> evsophomore2009: I have crossover, it only supports quicktime not itunes
[06:16] <evsophomore2009> how do i get it
[06:16] <TeraDyne> crossover office?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: That's it.  I love KDE, I use kubuntu as my main os, but KDE is uuuggggly
[06:16] <roho> DaSkreech: oh? do tell.
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> It's only a 30 day trial though, I think.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Ramon: What is it?
[06:16] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh yeah, some people do still buy mp3's
[06:16] <DaSkreech> roho: It has Magnatune and ... something else
[06:17] <roho> yeah, but magnatune has poor choice
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> rockets, why ues KDE then?
[06:17] <roho> i haven't heard of most of the artists on magnatune
[06:17] <DaSkreech> rockets: so change them
[06:17] <DaSkreech> roho: that's half of the point :) it's independent
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> You can sort of mix them together too if you want.
[06:17] <roho> yeah, i know
[06:17] <roho> DaSkreech: so what was the "something else"?
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> Like have GNOME with the KDE Kicker. :d
[06:17] <rockets> No, I like KDE :-D
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> And the desktop of your choice.
[06:18] <rockets> I'm willing to put up with the ugliness for the great applications
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> [16:16:24]   <rockets> in fact, kde widgets in general are ugly as hell. I love KDE, I use kubuntu as my main os, but KDE is uuuggggly
[06:18] <Ramon> daskreech: the linux box is not detecting my network card
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> What's ugly about it then?
[06:18] <Ramon> or it is not configuring it.. it appears under lspci
[06:18] <crimsun> Qt4 changes all that.
[06:18] <rockets> Maxdamantus: the way the widgets look makes all KDE apps look cluttered to me
[06:18] <DaSkreech> roho: It's in KDE4
[06:18] <rockets> And I kind of feel like all the apps look like theyre from 1995
[06:18] <roho> of course!
[06:18] <roho> tease me like that
[06:18] <roho> :D
[06:18] <intelikey> !anything
[06:18] <Guilty_as_Sin> widgets are a waste of cpu in my opinion
[06:18] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[06:18] <TeraDyne> rockets: you can create your own widgets
[06:18] <DaSkreech> roho: http://ww.commit-digest.org/issues/latest and grep for amarok
[06:19] <rockets> by widgets i mean the buttons in applications
[06:19] <rockets> yes but im too lazy to create my own widgets
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> rockets, you mean the GTK programs run under KDE?
[06:19] <roho> greppage commenced
[06:19] <rockets> no i mean Qt programs under kde
[06:19] <byonix> Hi, i'm in college, major in accounting, anyone knows about, audit software in kubuntu, like ACL
[06:19] <rockets> GTK programs I use the Human style with and they look fine
[06:19] <roho> DaSkreech: that domain is dead
[06:19] <byonix> or something
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> ...
[06:19] <DaSkreech> roho: add another w
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> They don't look like 1995 to me.
[06:19] <rockets> I use KDE despite my opinions on it, because I like the way it works in general.
[06:19] <roho> oh
[06:19] <roho> heh
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> Default widgets from Kubuntu 7.04, with a different colour look cool.
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> With the slow mouseover animation.
[06:20] <rockets> that animation is cool i agree
[06:20] <Guilty_as_Sin> kde is crispy clean..  thank you to the all of you that make that possible
[06:20] <DaSkreech> byonix: Audit as in accounting ?
[06:20] <DaSkreech> or audit as in Securoty ?
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> In 1995, widgets were boxes.
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> Like Windows 95 for example.
[06:20] <DaSkreech> !network
[06:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> KDE had widgets like that too at that time.
[06:20] <rockets> KDE is about as crispy as win98 with fading buttons
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Is there a troubleshooter page for networking cards ?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Ramon: how do you know it's gone ?
[06:21] <rockets> maybe there is a !network
[06:21] <rockets> !network
[06:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> now that is interesting
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Ramon: do you see it when you do a sudo ifconfig -a ?
[06:21] <rockets> apparently not
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> http://maxdamantus.uni.cc/upload/usruploads/widgets.png
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> ^^ How does that look like Win 98?
[06:24] <wsjunior> guys i have a problem with my touchpad here. some time after log in into kde the scroll stop working and i need to switch to a virtual terminal and then come back to x session to have it working again. it seems it is a reported bug, does anybody know a fix for this?
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> umm i need help running Amarok with my iPod
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> since i CANT use iTunes
[06:24] <TeraDyne> evsophomore2009: can you be more specific?
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> how do i open my ipod on amarok...like it dosent even show its connected
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> yet it is, and the iPod is on my desktop
[06:25] <intelikey> hmmm  "ipod" ?????? "earpod" ?
[06:25] <evsophomore2009> what?
[06:26] <intelikey> nothing
[06:27] <rockets> evsophomore2009: try going to the settings and hit the autodetect devices button while its plugged in
[06:27] <rockets> sorry, to be more clear, i mean the settings for amarok, and while the ipod is plugged into the pc
[06:27] <wsjunior> guys i have a problem with my touchpad here. some time after log in into kde the scroll stop working and i need to switch to a virtual terminal and then come back to x session to have it working again. it seems it is a reported bug, does anybody know a fix for this?
[06:27] <rockets> autodetect devices is a one time button, not a checkbox/setting, but it is in settings for whatever reason
[06:27] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: I think it should be under the devices tab
[06:28] <evsophomore2009> Media Device: iPod mounted at /media/EVJUNIOR200 already locked. If you are sure that this is an error, then remove the file /media/EVJUNIOR200/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesLock and try again.
[06:28] <Guilty_as_Sin> all I know about touchpad problems is a link for disabling touchpad..  interest you at all?
[06:28] <evsophomore2009> im lost
[06:29] <wsjunior> Guilty_as_Sin: no. i prefer to use my touchpad than other mouse
[06:29] <Guilty_as_Sin> I figured
[06:29] <wsjunior> its damn odd
[06:29] <rockets> Yeah, I'm so used to the touchpad now
[06:29] <stdin> evsophomore2009: that means that iTunes "locked" the iPod database (or rather didn't unlock it)
[06:29] <rockets> I use a laptop 24/7
[06:29] <Maxdamantus> rockets, do you ever sleep/eat/drink/(school|work)?
[06:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> brb..  my baby just got a pankin'
[06:30] <wsjunior> i cant figure out why it stop working and only way to get it back is switching to a vt and come back to x session
[06:30] <byonix> any audit softwares (accounting) in kubuntu?
[06:30] <evsophomore2009> How do i Unlock it?
[06:30] <rockets> Maxdamantus: very funny
[06:30] <TeraDyne> evsophomore2009: go into a terminal and put in "rm /media/EVJUNIOR200/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesLock"
[06:30] <rockets> Hey great news guys!
[06:30] <DaSkreech> byonix: try kmymoney2
[06:30] <DaSkreech> it's really personal accounting
[06:30] <rockets> It looks like the latest proprietary ATI driver has basic support for the composite extension!
[06:31] <DaSkreech> the only thing close to heavy duty accoutnign I know of is Gnucash
[06:31] <TeraDyne> that should remove the lock and let amarok detect the ipod
[06:32] <TeraDyne> sorry for the delay. In the middle of a pokemon battle. >_>;
[06:34] <byonix> anyone knows about calc manual, specially about its function in financial,statistics,data analysis?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> calc manual ?
[06:35] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: that's what I was about to ask
[06:35] <DaSkreech> ramon?
[06:36] <byonix> yes, the spreadsheet, like some books that i could download
[06:36] <DaSkreech> oh OO.o calc
[06:37] <DaSkreech> oooooooooo calc
[06:37] <DaSkreech> byonix: Have you looked at the functions in it? As far as I know it has a lot of them built in and ready to go
[06:37] <intelikey> http://tinyurl.com/ytmv5z
[06:38] <TeraDyne> byonix: http://documentation.openoffice.org/
[06:38] <TeraDyne> check there
[06:38] <byonix> in process
[06:38] <DaSkreech> My friend is an accountant and switched over to Linux cause of Oo.o
[06:38] <DaSkreech> He says it's much easier to do his work in it
[06:40] <dr_willis> Hmm oo.o runs under windows also. :)
[06:41] <sebastian23> hello
[06:41] <intelikey> yes but it's not "easier to do things" in windows   :)
[06:41] <sebastian23> i need some help please. How do I configure the scrolling area in my synaptics touchpad?
[06:42] <TeraDyne> dr_willis: But it loads like a slug there. I would know, I have a dual core x64 with 1GB RAM on my desktop with winXP, and my 3 year old laptop running Kubuntu compile it before it loads on winXP
[06:42] <byonix> DaSkreech : i want to know more about your friend experiences, can i contact him/her?
[06:42] <TeraDyne> can* compile it.
[06:42] <DaSkreech> byonix: Sure give me a contact and I'll let them get in contact
[06:43] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: but compiz doesn't
[06:43] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: he had a reaaaaly old machine (couldn't run windows XP) it can run Ubuntu and compiz though
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !touchpad
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:44] <DaSkreech> !find touchpad
[06:44] <TeraDyne> *thud* why won't SeaMonkey COMPILE?!?
[06:44] <ubotu> File touchpad found in acpi-support
[06:44] <sebastian23> !acpi-support
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi-support - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <roho> the best thing about linux is that if you want something to work, you have to learn everything about it and ask questions all over the internet
[06:45] <sebastian23> thanks DaSkreech
[06:45] <DaSkreech> sebastian23: There is a thingy :) I'm trying to remember the name of the package where you can configure taht stuff
[06:46] <DaSkreech> roho: yeah and after that it works for years
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Or at least till your next dist-upgrade :_) but then you actually know how to fix it
[06:46] <roho> it's also the main reason why normal folks don't use it
[06:46] <roho> oh well
[06:46] <roho> DaSkreech: or you have a new problem! haha
[06:47] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: I don't dist-upgrade. I just do a fresh install, or leave it alone if it's slackware.
[06:47] <roho> i drink several shots of vodka
[06:47] <sebastian23> DaSkreech: I tried gsynaptics but there isn't a way to configre the size of the scroll area
[06:47] <DaSkreech> !info ksynaptics
[06:47] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[06:47] <DaSkreech> :-D
[06:48] <TeraDyne> roho: If I tried that, I wouldn't be able to keep my food down for weeks.
[06:48] <DaSkreech> roho: I'm guessing you gave a problem :)
[06:48] <roho> nah
[06:48] <roho> i don't drink really
[06:48] <roho> i'm just frustrated with a couple problems i don't know how to fix
[06:48] <roho> so i made some ramen
[06:48] <DaSkreech> roho: I meant with linux :)
[06:48] <roho> heh
[06:49] <DaSkreech> ./configure && make ramen
[06:49] <roho> DaSkreech: well, the system is stable and everything, just some things i'm working on are tough
[06:49] <TeraDyne> roho: even the smell of alcohol or wine makes me sick.
[06:49] <roho> TeraDyne: sorry to hear that
[06:49] <TeraDyne> Ramen... Yum.
[06:49] <TeraDyne> roho: don't be. It gives me an advantage in driving tests. XD
[06:50] <DaSkreech> and trapeze artist showowns
[06:50] <DaSkreech> roho: care to share ?
[06:50] <sebastian23> thanks again DaSkreech i will give it a try
[06:50] <roho> share ramen or my linux problems?
[06:50] <Tm_T> intelikey: hum
[06:51] <TeraDyne> roho: both, hopefully.
[06:52] <DaSkreech> roho: First one then the other
[06:52] <TeraDyne> hmm... it's 11:51 pm here. I wonder if I'd get yelled at for cooking some ramen.
[06:52] <roho> DaSkreech: eh, you can have the ramen. i'm done messing with this system for the day
[06:52] <intelikey> Tm_T yo   ?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> roho: What's the problem?
[06:53] <roho> well, the one that's taken the majority of my time today is with nxserver
[06:53] <roho> it worked perfectly yesterday
[06:53] <roho> now it's dropping connections and spewing really strange output
[06:54] <roho> no one has any idea what's wrong, and the people in #nx are *silent*. like all day today.
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Sorry set up nx once and it's been fine since that
[06:55] <roho> the ramen, on the other hand, is hot and shrimp-flavored. its only problem is that it's too hot to eat at the moment.
[06:55] <roho> DaSkreech: i know! that's how it was yesterday. and now i'm HOOKED! vnc will never be the same again :(
[06:56] <roho> DaSkreech: well, i'll dump the output in a pastebin. just check it out and if something immediately stands out, let me know
[06:56] <DaSkreech> kk
[06:56] <egon> hello
[06:56] <DaSkreech> I'll tell you about it tomorrow
[06:57] <roho> alright, one sec.
[06:57] <egon> how can i get systemrights so rename or edit some files? :(
[06:57] <stdin> !sudo | egon
[06:57] <ubotu> egon: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:57] <rockets> Anybody tried out google desktop for linux yet?
[06:57] <egon> i know but when i want to rename a system file wath do i have to do?
[06:58] <intelikey> wops and hops others    :)
[06:58] <roho> DaSkreech: http://sial.org/pbot/25857
[06:58] <bob_sinclair> egon: use mv
[06:58] <stdin> egon: in console "sudo mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname" , for a GUI run "kdesu konqueror"
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> hey everyone....does anybody know how to clean ntfs partitions in ubuntu?
[06:59] <bob_sinclair> clean?
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> yep
[06:59] <roho> format you mean?
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> no
[06:59] <bob_sinclair> do you mean check for errors?
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> clean lol
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> thats the one
[06:59] <bob_sinclair> what does cleaning do?
[07:00] <bob_sinclair> oh
[07:00] <Tenerifedave> check for errors and clean them
[07:00] <bob_sinclair> fix
[07:00] <bob_sinclair> you don't clean an error :)
[07:00] <Tenerifedave> yeah, same thing
[07:00] <bob_sinclair> its not
[07:01] <bob_sinclair> !info dosfstools
[07:01] <ubotu> dosfstools: Utilities to create and check MS-DOS FAT filesystems. In component main, is standard. Version 2.11-2.1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 144 kB
[07:01] <bob_sinclair> not sure if they support ntfs
[07:01] <Tenerifedave> ah right ok
[07:01] <intelikey> symantic pedantic
[07:01] <roho> !find ntfs
[07:01] <ubotu> Found: libntfs-dev, libntfs9, ntfsprogs, libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0 (and 4 others)
[07:01] <roho> maybe ntfsprogs
[07:01] <bob_sinclair> !info ntfsprogs
[07:01] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.13.1-6 (feisty), package size 267 kB, installed size 700 kB
[07:01] <roho> that's probably it
[07:01] <Tenerifedave> tried ntfsprogs, got it installed but dunno how to run it
[07:02] <Tenerifedave> doesnt run under the command ntfsprogs
[07:02] <roho> it's a collection of programs
[07:02] <egon> thx
[07:02] <sebastian23> DaSkreech : It worked! (ksynaptics). Thank you very much
[07:02] <Tenerifedave> oh right
[07:02] <rockets> Whats the beagle equivalent for KDE
[07:02] <stdin> Tenerifedave: you run the command "ntfsfix" look at "man ntfsfix"
[07:02] <egon> and wath do i have to do when i want to edit some files?
[07:02] <roho> see www.linux-ntfs.org
[07:02] <Tenerifedave> ahh ok
[07:02] <intelikey> my macnanic always uses his tool box to fix my car
[07:02] <Tenerifedave> thanks stdin and roho
[07:02] <byonix> i have an installjammer software, how to use it?, i tried no success
[07:02] <stdin> egon: right click it and choose "actions -> edit as root"
[07:03] <TeraDyne> stdin: kerry, IIRC
[07:03] <bob_sinclair> Tenerifedave: have a look at apt:/show?ntfsprogs in konqueror it tells you there how to run
[07:03] <bob_sinclair> ntfsfix
[07:04] <egon> hmm i cant choos it xD
[07:04] <TeraDyne> !info kerry | stdin
[07:04] <bob_sinclair> i just tried a sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda3
[07:04] <ubotu> stdin: kerry: a KDE frontend for the Beagle desktop search daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.2.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 291 kB, installed size 1360 kB
[07:04] <stdin> TeraDyne: ???
[07:04] <TeraDyne> sorry. I ment rockets
[07:04] <egon> only e.mail and bluetooth
[07:04] <egon> xD
[07:04] <DaSkreech> sebastian23: glad to help
[07:04] <egon> no open with root :(
[07:05] <TeraDyne> I've been staring at the dang screen too long. Lines are starting to blur together
[07:05] <rockets> TeraDyne: ubotu "doesn't know anything about info
[07:05] <stdin> egon: hmm, well you can always just open kate as root with "kdesu kate"
[07:05] <intelikey> "you can always"  ?
[07:06] <TeraDyne> rockets: you need to add a package name after "info"
[07:06] <rockets> o yeah
[07:06] <rockets> hmm. cat vs kerry
[07:06] <Carutsu> intelikey hasn't said anything vey /inteligent/ in all his sentences
[07:08] <TeraDyne> anyone know what I need to get the X headers?
[07:08] <TeraDyne> need it for SeaMonkey
[07:08] <stdin> !xincludes
[07:08] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[07:08] <dr_willis> xorg-dev sounds right
[07:08] <stdin> TeraDyne: xorg-dev is the one you want
[07:08] <TeraDyne> thanks
[07:08] <TeraDyne> both of you
[07:09] <rockets> Ah I like Beagle, so I'll use Kerry
[07:09] <intelikey> actually there are two.   xorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries
[07:09] <intelikey> xserver-xorg-dev - X.Org X server -- development files
[07:10] <TeraDyne> I'll just install both
[07:10] <stdin> xorg-dev depends on xserver-xorg-dev
[07:11] <sebastian23> I have another question if anyone could help me please. How do I change the colors of the contact list background in kopete?
[07:11] <rockets> the kerry shortcuts arent working?
[07:11] <rockets> :-(
[07:12] <stdin> sebastian23: in kopete settings, appearance tab -> colors & fints
[07:13] <TeraDyne> stdin: fints?
[07:13] <stdin> *fonts
[07:14] <DaSkreech> rockets: strigi I guess
[07:16] <rockets> Is there a way to make X restart automatically after I logout
[07:17] <intelikey> rockets using gdm there is a setting in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf  that forces restart of xorg when users logout.   kde may have the same in /etc/kde?/kdm* ????
[07:18] <rockets> intelikey: yeah I know about gdm but this is kd,
[07:18] <rockets> kdm
[07:18] <rockets> my whole computer locks up without that setting, when i log out
[07:18] <rockets> X doesnt restart and cant use ctrl-alt-F* to get a terminal
[07:19] <intelikey> i stay away from kdm cause it writes to /root and does a few other wierd things.
[07:19] <intelikey> rockets let me guess   tosheba ?
[07:19] <eagles0513875> hobbsee morning
[07:19] <rockets> intelikey: dell
[07:19] <intelikey> with ati chips ?
[07:19] <rockets> yup.
[07:20] <rockets> It works fine if I disable fglrx but thats not an option
[07:20] <rockets> my card is too new to have 3d acceleration with the open source driver
[07:20] <rockets> intelikey: guess I'm logging out with ctrl-alt-backspace then
[07:20] <sebastian23> stdin: but there's no option to change the colors of the contact list or the color of the fonts of the contact list
[07:21] <stdin> sebastian23: it's the background color
[07:21] <theRealballchalk> http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/hatsoff/index.html?cid=251015
[07:21] <intelikey> rockets well i haven't found an acceptable answer to that one yet.     are you running 64bit or 32bit system ?
[07:22] <rockets> 32 bit
[07:22] <sebastian23> stdin: no it's not. the background color changes the color of the chat window
[07:22] <rockets> hmm
[07:22] <intelikey> yeah.    i tried both.   64 seems worse.   but 32 is not "right" so   idk.  if i come up with anything i'll give a yell
[07:23] <rockets> if i could find a way to do /etc/init.d/kdm restart on logout
[07:23] <rockets> that might work
[07:23] <rockets> heh thanks
[07:23] <rockets> same here
[07:23] <eagles0513875> hobbs i send ya pm dont know whether u got it
[07:23] <intelikey> rockets why not use gdm ?
[07:23] <rockets> intelikey: eh. . . because thats not really a fix
[07:23] <sebastian23> stdin: can i send you a screenshot?
[07:23] <rockets> its a workaround
[07:23] <eagles0513875> intelikey: waht u having problems with
[07:23] <rockets> I'm using KDE, I should be able to use KDM
[07:23] <stdin> sebastian23: I don't use kopete, that was just from memory
[07:23] <rockets> a new ati driver just came out, should be in feisty
[07:23] <rockets> that might help
[07:24] <stdin> rockets: maybe ask in #kde ?
[07:24] <rockets> i mean gutsy
[07:24] <rockets> stdin: good idea!
[07:24] <intelikey> rockets that doesn't matter.    the ?dm has little or nothing to do with the desktop env.
[07:24] <eagles0513875> rockets was it u who asked if kde 3.5 when it was going to be released
[07:24] <stdin> intelikey: KDE may not be able to shutdown/restart from the logout menu with gdm
[07:25] <intelikey> stdin why not ?  does for me
[07:25] <sebastian23> stdin: thanks anyway
[07:25] <bryan> intelikey- waz up
[07:25] <sebastian23> anyone who can help me please
[07:25] <intelikey> bryan nothing new
[07:25] <stdin> intelikey: it did, then it didn't, not sure about the current state of that bug
[07:26] <intelikey> stdin oh.  that's fiesty specific ?
[07:26] <bryan> intelikey-I'm back former name ubuntu from yesterday
[07:26] <rockets> intelikey: I think i found it, hold on
[07:26] <intelikey> bryan yeah.   that was ubuntu_ wasn't it ?    hows the war ?
[07:26] <stdin> intelikey: I think it's actually kde-3.5.6 specific
[07:27] <bryan> intelikey- had to reinstall but was able to get important files out using xp
[07:27] <rockets> intelikey: I got it!
[07:28] <intelikey> rockets locale ?
[07:28] <rockets> intelikey: no, i got the x server restart with kdm
[07:28] <intelikey> heh  yeah i mean where?
[07:29] <rockets> TerminateServer=true in the kdmrc file
[07:29] <rockets> in the X-*-core section
[07:29] <intelikey> ok.  makes sense
[07:29] <rockets> [x-*-core]
[07:30] <bryan> intelikey- new problem. I was not able to install ENVY like I did last time to install my nvidia 7900 gt. Get ERROR 403: Forbidden
[07:30] <rockets> I think I'm going to set up a wiki to store all the answers i find. publicly accessible but not editable
[07:30] <intelikey> that string basicly tells xorg that the terminal it was displaying on has "just dropped of the face of the earth" so to speak rockets
[07:31] <eagles0513875> lol im working on a website rockets with simplified how to's that i have been given
[07:31] <rockets> eagles0513875: yup
[07:31] <rockets> intelikey: heh
[07:31] <rockets> im about to test it
[07:31] <eagles0513875> hobbs everything ok
[07:32] <bryan> intelikey- anything on my issue?
[07:32] <intelikey> bryan hmmm that's network.  running it as root ?   some server setups wont allow root.     i'm not really familear with envy tho.
[07:32] <rockets> brb
[07:32] <intelikey> you hope
[07:32] <intelikey> :)
[07:33] <bryan> how do I know if I'm running on root?
[07:33] <stdin> bryan: run "whoami"
[07:33] <intelikey> bryan did you say  sudo envy  or something ?
[07:33] <intelikey> stdin # whoami
[07:34] <intelikey> stdout
[07:34] <stdin> bryan: but that looks like a remote http error
[07:34] <bryan> This is what is says todo:
[07:34] <bryan> wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/
[07:34] <bryan> envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[07:34] <bryan> sudo dpkg -i envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[07:35] <intelikey> yeah that's a network error.
[07:35] <bryan> from my side?
[07:36] <intelikey> and if that's the instructions for install then i'll assume that you have to run it as root.     so.   1 the server was down.  2 the server admin tightened security  3 intelikey has no clue 4 other
[07:36] <rockets> intelikey: It worked! Its a freaking miracle.
[07:36] <rockets> Actually no, its google.
[07:36] <stdin> bryan: make sure you put "wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/" and "envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb" on the same line
[07:36] <stdin> bryan: ie: "http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[07:37] <bryan> stdin-? I get errors
[07:37] <intelikey> stdin if that's a line break you nailed.  i just thought the irc client had to break the string some place.
[07:38] <intelikey> wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[07:38] <stdin> intelikey: the URL came through as 2 messages here
[07:38] <intelikey> one line.
[07:39] <intelikey> stdin yes thats what i'm saying.  you saw the line break.  i didn't      good eye.
[07:40] <stdin> intelikey: widescreen display in X helps :p
[07:40] <TeraDyne_> great. I'm listed twice
[07:40] <TeraDyne_> Ok, need some help. hold on, as this will be a little long
[07:40] <intelikey> TeraDyne_ ..................................................................................................
[07:41] <TeraDyne_> Basicly, the entire laptop came to a crashing death while I was compiling SeaMonkey. Is there any way I can find out what happened?
[07:41] <bryan> http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.5-0ubuntu5_all.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[07:42] <bryan> is what I get when I click on it
[07:42] <stdin> bryan: use that URL with wget, or right-click and choose "save-as"
[07:43] <TeraDyne> Anyone know what log to look at to find out why everything just died suddenly, forcing me to restart?
[07:44] <bryan> thax that help
[07:45] <intelikey> TeraDyne assuming there is a message.  /var/log/Xorg.* or /var/log/{messages,ksymoops/*}   i doubt that there is a message if it just crashed hard.
[07:46] <TeraDyne> intelikey: Ok. Yeah, it was a hard crash. Everything just went *poof*.
[07:47] <intelikey> yah that don't leave the kernel time to write to disk really
[07:47] <TeraDyne> intelikey: that's what worries me. it was writting to disk when it happened.
[07:48] <intelikey> e2fsck
[07:48] <TeraDyne> intelikey: another odd thing is that I didn't have X when I rebooted. KDMwouldn't load.
[07:49] <bryan> intelikey- it ask for package module-assistant
[07:49] <TeraDyne> I did. It checked out.
[07:49] <intelikey> not so odd  lock files not removed TeraDyne
[07:49] <intelikey> !module-assistant
[07:50] <intelikey> !info module-assistant
[07:50] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10 (feisty), package size 86 kB, installed size 428 kB
[07:50] <intelikey> bryan it's in universe.    sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[07:50] <TeraDyne> intelikey: ah. good point.
[07:50] <TeraDyne> now, to start the comipile... again... *thud*
[07:52] <intelikey> so i may end up installing windo...
[07:53] <intelikey> and a change of occupation.
[07:54] <bryan> no it says that packages have unmet dependencies did not install some
[07:54] <intelikey> bryan   sudo apt-get install -f
[07:54] <intelikey> then pastebin any errors it through
[07:54] <TeraDyne> intelikey: doesn't anyone use aptitude?
[07:55] <intelikey> yeah everyone in #debian
[07:55] <intelikey> :)
[07:55] <TeraDyne> *note to self, clear the dang line*
[07:56] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I use aptitude, just because it makes it easier to remove things later.
[07:57] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[07:57] <DaSkreech> TeraDyne: Ha ha Play more games :)
[07:58] <intelikey> modem reset
[07:58] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: I am. Pokemon Battle Revolution, .hack, and Turok 2, to be exact
[07:58] <DaSkreech> FF1 FTW!
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Which .hack ?
[07:59] <TeraDyne> FFT FTW! But enough offtopic
[07:59] <rockets> Is there a way to quickly enable compiz in kubuntu, like you can in ubuntu
[07:59] <rockets> with the checkboxes
[07:59] <kalorin`> !ati
[07:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:59] <DaSkreech> I hear that they are making a new game for PS3. Many bets are up as to wethere or not it's a new .hack
[07:59] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: .hack//infection and .hack//G.U. vol 2
[08:00] <rockets> i have the ati driver already
[08:00] <rockets> im asking about the "enable desktop effects" dialouge that ubuntu has
[08:00] <intelikey> bother says poo.   i gota regrub this thing. E 21
[08:01] <DaSkreech> E is at version 21 now?  I shouldn't forget about that.
[08:07] <eagles0513875> if u do all i got to say is gd luck finding a replacement lol
[08:07] <DaSkreech> PLus you can use the wiimote as a mouse :)
[08:08] <TeraDyne> Still, 6 failed compiles, and one that might have succeded.
[08:08] <eagles0513875> if the compile fails then there is a problem in the programming code
[08:09] <TeraDyne> eagles0513875: no, firts one was due to missing libgtk2.0-dev, and the rest were because I forgot to grab the X headers.
[08:09] <eagles0513875> ahhh but then again that could always be a possibility lol
[08:13] <intelikey> a computer is better that a wife.
[08:14] <intelikey> at least better at ticking me off....
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> "can your wife stop popups?  no.  can a computer show you naked women?  yes."
[08:15] <intelikey> oh yes she can.  you never met her.
[08:15] <intelikey> :)
[08:19] <TeraDyne> I knew Seamonkey had everything, but I didn't expect the Kitchen Sink as well
[08:20] <TeraDyne> Sorry, couldn't resist.
[08:20] <intelikey> they just thew that in for balest
[08:20] <TeraDyne> intelikey: balest?

[08:21] <TeraDyne> balence?
[08:21] <TeraDyne> balance*
[08:21] <Kr00lplatinum> does anyone know how log a ban in #ubuntu last?
[08:21] <TeraDyne> Kr00lplatinum: no idea. What did you get banned for?
[08:21] <Kr00lplatinum> AFK
[08:22] <Kr00lplatinum> for a few hours
[08:22] <Tm_T> that's not ban reason
[08:22] <Kr00lplatinum> that's all i did