[04:14] <jtannenbaum> edbian: they appeared out of nowhere when I pressed the up button in the terminal window. Here it is; sorry for the highlighting: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/359754/
[04:14] <bonjoyee> jtannenbaum: you must also look into Xorg.0.log under /var/log
[04:14] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, this was originally a wubi install I migrated so i didn't really think about it at the time
[04:14] <edbian> jtannenbaum, reading...
[04:14] <edbian> jtannenbaum, Graphics card?
[04:14] <jtannenbaum> I can never remember the commands to get info like that
[04:15] <razz1> spirals: lshw does not offer all the details, I want the manufacturer details, so that I know what to buy to upgrade
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: clean install when natty arrives and do it there :)
[04:15] <edbian> jtannenbaum, Do you not remember?  (lspci -k)  Please list the driver / module as well as the card.
[04:15] <debiankde> anyone leaving ubuntu because of unity and going kde?
[04:15] <Scott1> gotta question about my DVD drive if there's a queue for questions.
[04:16] <spirals> razz1, did you check "sudo dmidecode" - i get vendor info for mine there
[04:16] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, ugh, hate clean installs, have a lot of source compiled stuff I really don't want to have to go grab again
[04:17] <brandon420> DaPenguin, i feel your pain.
[04:17] <jtannenbaum> edbian: is this enough info: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/359756/
[04:17] <edbian> jtannenbaum, yes
[04:17] <spirals> razz1: correction: I don't actually see vendor in dmidecode for my DIMM slots. Only for other slots.  Less problems with old fluff hanging around
[04:18] <spirals> razz1: have fun reimplementing all the usability tweaks on top of vanilla debian, if it's a desktop system. (if it's a server, debian is fantastic)
[04:18] <debiankde> razzl: I switched to Debian KDE on my desktop just fine.
[04:18] <spirals> razz1: (speaking having managed dozens of debian installations on server, a few debian desktops, and a bunch of ubuntu desktops)
[04:19] <xangua> !ot
[04:19] <bonjoyee> razz1: theres very little difference in the working...but a huge one in principles...
[04:19] <Scott1> I need ubuntu support!
[04:19] <brandon420> Scott1, just ask the question, lol.
[04:20] <brandon420> if anyone can help, they will.
[04:20] <Scott1> My DVD player took in my movie DVD. It won't acknowledge it has it. The eject command doesn't work. Nor does the button.
[04:20] <razz1> spirals: when upgrading memory, what are the things that I need to keep in mind. I am trying to pick similar dimms as the ones I already have
[04:20] <brandon420> sounds like a problem with you drive, Scott1
[04:20] <edbian> jtannenbaum, join #intel-gfx with me
[04:20] <Scott1> It was fine yesterday.
[04:21] <razz1> bonjoyee: absolutely agree, principles matter. sold me on it.
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Scott1: try:  sudo eject /dev/sr0
[04:21] <spirals> razz1: to be completely honest, I would go into the case and physically observe it, if you don't have an email from the vendor that you bought it from (sales receipt) to go back and refer to.
[04:21] <spirals> razz1: i always try to match identically. other than that, you need to match *timing* and *type*.
[04:21] <Scott1> it says it was successful
[04:21] <Scott1> it wasn't
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Scott1: failing that, grab a paperclip and straighten it and shove it in the tiny hole on the drive to eject it
[04:22] <razz1> spirals: I know it's a gskill one not sure about timing
[04:22] <Scott1> Funny. I can't friggin find a paperclip. I came here after I gave up. :)
[04:22] <brandon420> haha
[04:22] <spirals> razz1: digging for timing, sec
[04:22] <bonjoyee> razz1: i was tired of the frequent changes ("ubuntufications" i call it) made to upstream packages that work perfectly without those..
[04:22] <brandon420> Scott1, anything small will work
[04:22] <Scott1> Ah. I'll reboot. Maybe the bios will magically fix something.
[04:22] <brandon420> toothpick, stable
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> Scott1: anything that will fit is acceptable
[04:22] <brandon420> staple*
[04:23] <the_core> hi all I have a newbie question,can someone please help me install FF4
[04:23] <DaPenguin> Scott1, do you have an old keyboard laying around?
[04:23] <Scott1> A friend came over today and helped me clean. I can't find *anything* small. lol
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> !ff4 | the_core
[04:23] <Scott1> DaP, yes
[04:23] <brandon420> tear it apart, there is something small in it
[04:23] <spirals> razz1: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6659527&postcount=6 for a method to get latency/timing info
[04:23] <DaPenguin> Scott1, if you pull off the spacebar you should find exactly what you need :)
[04:24] <spirals> razz1: it involves installing 1 package from ubuntu repos, loading a kernel module then running a command to view the info
[04:25] <Scott1>  Got it. Thanks! Now I want to put it back in to watch my movie, but I don't dare. :)
[04:26] <Scott1> bye all
[04:26] <owen1__> can i use usb-creator and put debian on it?
[04:27] <razz1> spirals: thanks, trying it now
[04:27] <spirals> razz1: me too, curious :)
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: should be ok, if not then use unetbootin
[04:28] <spirals> razz1, boo, decode-dimms doesn't see anything at all for me.
[04:28] <spirals> hopefully you have a better result.
[04:28] <owen1__> ActionParsnip: installing the netbootin. thanks
[04:29] <rww> Debian ISOs are dd-able to USB sticks. If you tried the right channel, they'd tell you that ;)
[04:30] <razz1> spirals: i got: Number of SDRAM DIMMs detected and decoded: 0
[04:30] <spirals> razz1: it's more obnoxious, but if you reboot and select "memtest" in grub menu, you get complete info there
[04:31] <spirals> razz1: same, i think the 2008 release of decode-dimms utility doesn't work with modern systems
[04:31] <spirals> razz1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843760 shows a SS of what grub's memtest looks like and what to look for for timings
[04:32] <spirals> i would sure like to find out how to do this from the terminal though.
[04:33] <DaPenguin> spirals, and lshw doesn't give you manufacturer info?
[04:34] <razz1> spirals: I will just boot in to win and run pc-wizard software, its really good.
[04:34] <spirals> razz1: check grub's memtest option first, should be faster
[04:34] <spirals> if you're going to reboot anyway.
[04:35] <razz1> spirals: will do, thanks for the info
[04:35] <spirals> DaPenguin, for me it shows Manufacturer0 for DIMM0, etc. ;(
[04:35] <spirals> razz1: you're welcome
[04:35] <DaPenguin> spirals, hmm, mine gives me full info in the bank sections
[04:35] <spirals> DaPenguin, no doubt performance is specific to the motherboard and/or DIMM manufacturer.
[04:36] <DaPenguin> spirals, yeah, probably
[04:36] <spirals> DaPenguin, I'm using "sudo lshw -C MEMORY" for what it's worth.
[04:37] <DaPenguin> spirals, try sudo lshw >> lshw.txt, then search for "bank" in the text file
[04:38] <DaPenguin> spirals, how i did mine anyway, your mileage may vary of course lol
[04:38] <spirals> DaPenguin, yeah that drills down to the same info that I got with -C MEMORY
[04:38] <spirals> thanks though!
[04:38] <DaPenguin> yeah, figured
[04:39] <spirals> I think memtest86+ is the current solution. just annoying that it requires a boot.
[04:39] <spirals> or am i missing something about memtest
[04:40] <DaPenguin> spirals, not that i know of
[04:41] <DaPenguin> spirals, and I'm starting to have doubts about my laptop manufacturer as it appears they installed 2 different brands of RAM in the same machine...
[04:42] <DaPenguin> either that or lshw is on crack...
[04:42] <spirals> DaPenguin, What in hades....
[04:42] <spirals> Perhaps it's half soldered, half slotted
[04:43] <bonjoyee> DaPenguin: if you have the option.. try cpu-z on windows..that will give the best idea of what memory you are using..
[04:43] <DaPenguin> bonjoyee, yeah, just don't feel like rebooting lol
[04:43] <spirals> I think we've identified a niche for a new linux app.
[04:44] <spirals> or someone to take over i2c-tools
[04:44] <DaPenguin> http://pastebin.com/uf0UBCAW, see what you make of that
[04:45] <jerm_> word
[04:45] <spirals> DaPenguin, yeah yours is less broken than mine http://pastebin.com/0kzJpyxP
[04:46] <NDROfTheLine> does anybody know how i can help test drm-next kernel code
[04:47] <spirals> DaPenguin, that does look like 2 slots eh? why on earth would the vendor mix memory mfg
[04:47] <DaPenguin> spirals, lol, was just looking at mine, think the hynix stuff is the actual system ram, betting it's reading the expansion slots as having actual ram for some reason
[04:47] <spirals> DaPenguin, so it is the half-soldered case then
[04:48] <spirals> ?
[04:48] <DaPenguin> spirals, considering this machine only has 4gb of ram, and that's showing 6 I think that's what's going on
[04:48] <bob55433> Anyone around who can help with a busted 10.04 installation?
[04:49] <spirals> DaPenguin, yeah - 2 soldered and a 4 card
[04:49] <spirals> err
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: please give details
[04:49] <spirals> now i'm confused. yeah wacky :D
[04:50] <DaPenguin> meh, it's fine as long as the system doesn't try to address non-existant memory lol
[04:51] <bob55433> Ok, well I was installing LAMP using a package and it started uninstalling ubuntu desktop, so I (foolishly) crashed out and now i only have command line access
[04:52] <bob55433> I am using live cd at the mo
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: run: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: you can remove ubuntu-desktop package, it is a metapackage only
[04:52] <bob55433> the main problem is that i no longer have connection to the repos
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> bob55433:  you may still be able to run the command
[04:53] <bob55433> I've been using aptitude and can identify teh missing packages, but get the 'temporarily unavailable' error
[04:53] <bob55433> Yep I've tried that command - no joy
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: then use a wired connection and it should be ok
[04:54] <Shuujin96> test
[04:54] <Shuujin96> test
[04:54] <restore_f2> hello
[04:55] <bob55433> It is currently a wired connection, can't get a ping of anything, not even the network
[04:55] <bonjoyee> Shuujin96: tested O.K
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: try: sudo dhclient3 eth0
[04:55] <restore_f2> I added a shortcut using F2 key but now I want to get F2 back to rename files. How can I restore it?
[04:56] <owen1__> i am installing netinst usb on thinkpad x61 and get a message about missing wireless firmwae - iwlwifi-3945. googling found this - http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download
[04:57] <owen1__> what am i suppose to do with this file?
[04:57] <bob55433> ActionParsnip: Ok, so I'll have to grab a laptop and reconnect here so i can quite the live cd... back in a mo
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: try: dpkg -S iwlwifi-3945
[04:57] <DaPenguin> spirals, ok, i'm an idiot, was thinking of my desktop, this machione does in fact have 6gb RAM lol, so yeah, 2 gb soldered and a 4gb card lol
[04:57] <owen1__> ActionParsnip: so first continue the install without it and when i am done i can do that?
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: mixing debian debs and ubuntu debs isn't advised nor supported
[04:58] <restore_f2> !shortcuts
[04:58] <owen1__> ActionParsnip: oops. i am on debian
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: then ask in #debian
[04:59] <owen1__> ActionParsnip: wrong channel..sorry
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> owen1__: this is #ubuntu for ubuntu support
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> :)
[05:02] <restore_f2> What package is linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> restore_f2: it is the linux-headers-yourkernelhere   e.g.  linux-headers-2.32.67-generic
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> restore_f2: the command will resolve itself appropriately for you
[05:03] <restore_f2> ActionParsnip: yeah is it necessary to compile stuff?
[05:04] <restore_f2> like sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) libgtk2.0-dev libssl-dev cmake
[05:05] <bonjoyee> restore_f2: mostly to compile/recompile kernel modules..
[05:05] <sheena1> hey all. I'm struggling to fix a sound problem on 10.04. i've tried a few things, but nothing seems to help.
[05:06] <brophat> someone was here last night helping me to get my wifi working but now wifi does not show up at all can someone help to try to get my wifi to show up again
[05:06] <restore_f2> sheena1: describe the problem
[05:07] <restore_f2> bonjoyee: may I pm?
[05:07] <sheena1> restore_f2: I have no sound at all. lspci shows my sound card, but aplay does not. It also doesnt show up in sound pref's under Hardware. i've reinstalled alsamixer, and tried a couple other random things. still no sound :(
[05:07] <DaPenguin> brophat, what does ifconfig show?
[05:07] <bonjoyee> restore_f2: i am not that good at compiling stuff...so please keep it in the channel if possible..
[05:08] <brophat> DaPenguin let me see
[05:08] <bonjoyee> sheena1: did it work before?
[05:08] <DaPenguin> brophat, cat it to a pastebin
[05:08] <brophat> ok
[05:08] <brophat> thanks
[05:08] <restore_f2> ActionParsnip bonjoyee: I want to play with xhydra and I am following this guide to compile it http://angger-kaboel.net/linux/installing-thc-hydra-5-9-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-with-ssl-support/
[05:09] <sheena1> bonjoyee: i've been running various versions of ubuntu on this laptop for 3+ years, had the occasional sound-gone issue that a reboot resolved.. it was working last night. it's possible i've done an update since then..
[05:09] <restore_f2> I just dont know why I need linux headers
[05:09] <DaPenguin> brophat, basically i'm trying to see if your system is even seeing the card
[05:09] <brophat> DaPenguin http://pastebin.com/ecYQPXA8
[05:09] <restore_f2> can you explani
[05:09] <brophat> ok
[05:10] <bonjoyee> sheena1: first check all the settings in alsamixer...for any obvious mistakes..else post more info about your sound hardware..
[05:10] <sheena1> bonjoyee: can you tell me which settings and how to check?
[05:10] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, so the system is at least seeing it
[05:10] <brophat> yeah
[05:11] <restore_f2> anyway ill test it in virtualbox first :)
[05:11] <DaPenguin> but i'm guessing the network manager isn't
[05:11] <bonjoyee> sheena1: open a terminal...type alsamixer ..then check the levels for each output..also check it they are not muted,,,
[05:11] <brophat> correct
[05:11] <brophat> Dapenguin yes correct
[05:11] <brophat> something we did last night
[05:12] <sheena1> bonjoyee: When I do that, i see one output. It is set to full, and i read that there should be a green or grey box beneath it to designate if it's muted.. i dont see it there. i did make sure it was set to 100%. If i show all, i see one for output and one for input. still just the one output though..
[05:12] <sheena1> bonjoyee: can i paste links here?
[05:13] <brophat> DaPenguin so what do you think?
[05:13] <DaPenguin> brophat, you could always try iwconfig to bring it online
[05:13] <brophat> ok
[05:13] <bonjoyee> sheena1: please pastebin the output of "sudo lspci | grep -i audio" and "aplay -l" here
[05:14] <brophat> DaPenguin but why would the network manager not see it?
[05:14] <DaPenguin> brophat, that i'm not sure of. i usually run most stuff out of a console.
[05:14] <sheena1> bonjoyee: http://pastebin.com/WK0rMpLq
[05:14] <brophat> ok
[05:14] <sheena1> i also included the lspci output on my hardware
[05:15] <bob55433> ActionParsnip: there's quite a bit of data there and can't cut and paste so this is gonna be slow :) - DHCPDISCOVER on eht0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 5 [new line] HCPOFFER of <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS> [new line] DHCPREQUEST of <IP_ADDRESS> on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 [new line] DHCPACK of <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS> [new line] bound to <IP_ADDRESS> -- renewal in 38328 seconds.
[05:16] <DaPenguin> bob55433, try pastebininit, greatest utility ever lol
[05:16] <brophat> DaPenguin i am planing on getting another wifi card, do you think the network manager will see that?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> bob55433: then you have an address, you can now access the repos
[05:16] <bonjoyee> sheena1: is this a laptop or desktop? also is this a 6 channel audio card? whats the model no for this computer?
[05:17] <brophat> well the network manager sees it but the card is not detecting any wireless networks
[05:17] <sheena1> bonjoyee: its a laptop. Toshiba Satellite u300. sorry,  I don't know how many channels it has. is there a way to find out? i can google it..
[05:17] <brophat> the wifi card must be turned off
[05:17] <joako> How do I determine what Ubuntu version I've installed? The closest thing I can find is /etc/debian_version...
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> joako: run: lsb_release -a
[05:17] <bob55433> can you clarify ActionP - fairly noobish here... what do i need to do with those ips?
[05:17] <DaPenguin> brophat, do you know the essid of the network you're trying to connect to?
[05:17] <ubuntu> Hi, I'm looking for a bit of help fixing grub. I was upgrading to natty and I think the mistake I made was accidentally replacing the existing grub.cfg file with some default one. Would my existing one have been backed up somewhere? I'm currently using a live version off my usb drive
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> sheena1: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[05:18] <brophat> DaPenguin isnt that the password?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: natty support is in #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <brophat> yeah I do
[05:19] <brophat> ssid you mean?
[05:19] <sheena1> ActionParsnip: Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6c8d532104d3d5b61376aa0067063a85301b86da
[05:19] <sheena1> Please inform the person helping you.
[05:19] <DaPenguin> brophat, yeah
[05:19] <saptarshi> hi
[05:19] <brophat> yeah i know that
[05:19] <`greenlight> can anyone suggest a good screen casting tool for ubuntu 10.10
[05:19] <saptarshi> i am using 10.10
[05:20] <DaPenguin> brophat, it could be your router has name broadcast off. try connecting manually and see if it can find it
[05:20] <unomi> ActionParsnip, you have any thoughts on why drag-to-upload isn't working for me in either ff4 or Chrome? Xfce4 / Thunar if it matters
[05:20] <terry> ubuntu: sudo grub-setup
[05:20] <saptarshi> can anyone tell how to get rid of entering the password every time i open synaptic??
[05:20] <terry> I think
[05:20] <brophat> DaPenguin how do i connect manually
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> sheena1: add: options snd-hda-intel model=ref position_fix=1     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    then reboot
[05:20] <terry> !grub2 | ubuntu
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> unomi: not sure
[05:21] <brophat> DaPenguin no other networks are showing up either
[05:21] <brophat> so it is not that
[05:21] <Danielcg25> I'm running Ubuntu via a USB stick. I need to clone the two HDDs I have plugged in. How do I do this?
[05:21] <brophat> there are tons around here i am in an apartment complex
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> sheena1: actually use:    modprobe snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=1
[05:22] <unomi> ActionParsnip, damn :) tried http://www.plupload.com/example_queuewidget.php and http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/imageUploader/ to no avail
[05:22] <ruan> if i try to remove libcups2, it wants to remove ALL of my other packages. how can i remove it without this issue?
[05:22] <brophat> DaPenguin therefore it is something with the card something we did last night
[05:22] <sheena1> ActionParsnip: add that modprobe.... to the file you said before?
[05:22] <ruan> !info libcups2
[05:22] <ruan> see, it's optional!
[05:22] <DaPenguin> brophat, hmm, not sure how to do it from the gui, but you can use iwconfig and try to force connect
[05:23] <Danielcg25> So how do I clone my drives? Ubuntu is running from a USB drive
[05:23] <brophat> DaPenguin   iwconfig interface [essid X]
[05:23] <unomi> ActionParsnip, nevermind! just for kicks I started up nautilus - and dragging from that actually works!
[05:23] <brophat> is that correct?
[05:23] <unomi> keep up the good work =)
[05:23] <DaPenguin> brophat, yes, where X is the network name
[05:23] <dian> ubuntu
[05:24] <joako> I've setup Ubuntu 10.10 and I can see it on the network, but when I try to access it I get a password error. I can SSH with the same user & password. Is there something I need to configure in Samba?
[05:24] <brophat> DaPenguin what is interface?
[05:24] <DaPenguin> brophat, wlan0 in your case
[05:24] <brophat> ok now how do i find out network name?
[05:24] <bonjoyee> sheena1: you could add "options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and then reboot...
[05:24] <Spurian> In Terminal, is there a command like Windows CMD's "Start" command to launch a process without waiting for it? Thanks
[05:25] <sheena1> ActionParsnip: bonjoyee: I added it to the end of the file. i'll reboot now
[05:25] <DaPenguin> brophat, it's the ssid of the network, for example "linksys"
[05:25] <ruan> Spurian: what exactly do you mean? you can run a process in the background
[05:25] <brophat> ok
[05:25] <DaPenguin> brophat, it's whatever the broadcast name of the router is
[05:26] <Spurian> ruan, I want to edit a file with gedit but still continue typing other commands in terminal
[05:26] <ruan> Spurian: gedit file &
[05:26] <ruan> Spurian: im gonna test that
[05:26] <bob55433> ActionParsnip: can you point me towards the next step in getting connected with that data? not really sure what it means :)
[05:27] <ruan> Spurian: [command] &
[05:28] <ruan> Spurian: & runs it in the background
[05:28] <Spurian> ruan, I just tested it and it works.  Thank you!
[05:28] <sheena> ActionParsnip: bonjoyee: back from reboot. no change?
[05:29] <ruan> Spurian: and if you need to bring it back to the terminal, use "fg"
[05:29] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: when you said "sheena1: actually use:    modprobe snd_hda_intel..." did you mean to add that to a file, or run it as a command?
[05:30] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, if that doesn't work try this http://pastebin.com/abtr7qX6, it's one of 2 scripts i have for enabling/disabling my wireless card. that's the enable one
[05:30] <Spurian> ruan,  very cool
[05:30] <bonjoyee> sheena: what did you add to  alsa-base.conf
[05:30] <sheena> bonjoyee: modprobe snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=1
[05:30] <ruan> there is also another option: "screen", however it is only needed if you're using the processes
[05:30] <bob55433> actionp: ok i get it, connection is restored... onwards
[05:31] <ruan> in the terminal
[05:31] <DaPenguin> brophat, the disable one is identical except the boolean value at the end is false
[05:31] <brophat> ok
[05:31] <bonjoyee> sheena: its "options snd_hda_intel model=toshiba probe_mask=1"
[05:31] <brophat> DaPenguin I did the command in the terminal and it went through but i don't see it listed in my network manager
[05:32] <sheena> bonjoyee: rebooting again. fixed.
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: ad it to the file
[05:33] <DaPenguin> brophat, hmm, give me a moment, doing some research
[05:33] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: I don't see any lines starting with 'modprobe' in any files in that directory
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: source: http://www.matusiak.eu/numerodix/blog/index.php/2007/10/31/gutsy-on-the-toshiba-u300/
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: you won't, those are the options to be used by default when modules are loaded
[05:34] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: that colon means it's refering to the following line, not the previous one
[05:34] <dooglus> ie. he's saying it's fixed by running the modprobe command, or adding the 'options' line to the config file
[05:35] <sheena> bonjoyee: back, no apparent change
[05:35] <bonjoyee> sheena: now check alsamixer again....
[05:35] <sheena> bonjoyee: no such file or directory
[05:36] <bonjoyee> sheena: ?
[05:36] <sheena> bonjoyee: that's what it says
[05:36] <bonjoyee> sheena: sure theres no typo?
[05:37] <johny_> I have installed ndiswrapper package to handle my wireless networking after my chip could not be supported by the broaddcom driver packages
[05:37] <sheena> home@home:~$ alsamixer
[05:37] <sheena> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[05:37] <johny_> so after installing ndiswrapper, how do I locate the appropriate <drivers>.inf file for my chip?
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> sheena: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[05:38] <dublisk> Hi, ubuntu has just crashed on my twice now. The screen goes black and then 2 seconds later I get a login screen. When I login all the programs have closed.
[05:38] <dublisk> How can I figure out what is going wrong
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> sheena: did you add the 2nd line I gave to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[05:38] <bonjoyee> sheena: one last try could be to add just "options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and reboot..or else I am out of this..
[05:38] <sheena> already the newest version, ActionParsnip
[05:39] <sheena> ActionParsnip: i did, rebooted, no change, then switched it to bonjoyee's option one, also no change
[05:39] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: check 'man 5 modprobe.d' - it tells you that lines in the modprobe.d config files can't start with the word 'modprobe'
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> sheena: try changing the model to: model=laptop
[05:39] <sheena> bonjoyee: so just taking off the last bit probe mask?
[05:39] <bonjoyee> sheena: yes...
[05:40] <sheena> ActionParsnip: to bonjoyee's or to yours?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: read the files yourself, or many guides for sound, they need that sort of line adding
[05:40] <NeT_DeMoN> Hi, I used a command to disable my faulty touchpad on my laptop and my mouse no longer clicks but I can move it and the touchpad still works. I had found this article about disabling the touchpad and when I went to find the device ID it said 10 and I used the command 'xinput set-prop 10 "Device Enabled" 0' and I disabled it to start up and I restarted but I'm still having problems.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> sheena: whatever the model= says currently, change it to laptop
[05:40] <sheena> ActionParsnip: so now i have "options snd_hda_intel model=laptop" as the added line in alsa-base.conf
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> sheena: if that doesn't work then try changing it to generic
[05:40] <sheena> reboot again?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> sheena: I also recommend you upgrade your alsa to 1.0.23 with: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> sheena: reboot to test inbetween
[05:42] <sheena> ActionParsnip: that upgrade looks complicated..
[05:42] <JohnnyZero> Can I ask what the difference is between Unity and Gnome? (since 11.04 is coming next month I'm just curious)
[05:42] <dnivra> hello. I am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10-add it to known devices. I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone's name> failed.". What is possibly wrong?
[05:42] <DaPenguin> brophat, what does sudo lshw -C network show?
[05:43] <JohnnyZero> Is it just a couple of things or is it lots of things?
[05:43] <brophat> ok hold on let me see
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> sheena: its step by step....
[05:43] <dnivra> !unity | JohnnyZero
[05:43] <JohnnyZero> oh ok thank you
[05:43] <sheena> ActionParsnip: yes, it is. just very long for an upgrade. i can do it tomorrow sometime though.
[05:43] <DaPenguin> brophat, we just want to make sure there's a driver listed
[05:44] <sheena> ActionParsnip: rebooting again.
[05:44] <brophat> DaPenguin yea it all seems to be there
[05:46] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, can you pastebin the output of iwconfig?
[05:46] <brophat> DaPenguin you mean just type iwconfig ?
[05:46] <sheena> ActionParsnip: no change with "laptop"
[05:46] <nek> hello
[05:47] <DaPenguin> brophat, yes
[05:47] <sheena> ActionParsnip: i guess i could try with generic, but i think i'll leave it for tonight and try again tomorrow. is it possible its a hardware issue?
[05:47] <brophat> DaPenguin  http://pastebin.com/tub6qsJE
[05:47] <DaPenguin> brophat, that and lshw -C network -sanitize
[05:47] <brophat> ok
[05:48] <DaPenguin> brophat, nvm on the lshw paste
[05:48] <DaPenguin> brophat, think i see the issue
[05:49] <brophat> DaPenguin  http://pastebin.com/qRnH0tYg
[05:49] <DaPenguin> brophat, do you have wpasupplicant installed?
[05:49] <sukaflops> fml, accidentally closed irc
[05:49] <brophat> DaPenguin don't know
[05:49] <sukaflops> hmmm battery is showing 93% now... maybe im just not used to it being so much larger
[05:50] <DaPenguin> brophat, try sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[05:50] <brophat> ok
[05:51] <brophat> DaPenguin yeah i guess it was already installed
[05:51] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, let's try a dbus restart: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[05:52] <dnivra> I am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10 I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone> failed.". What is possibly wrong? I did it earlier but deleted the devices from both the phone and the computer before trying again.
[05:53] <SkrappJaw> Quick help. I'm having problems with my SSH remote X server. ubuntu 10.04 host with vbox debian guest. I can connect through the network to host but not the otherway.
[05:53] <SkrappJaw> ssh: connect to host 192.xxx.x.xxx port 22: Connection refused
[05:54] <sheena> ActionParsnip: have we done anything that might cause unexpected reboots?
[05:55] <brophat> DaPenguin pk
[05:55] <brophat> ok
[05:55] <brophat> it bombed the system
[05:55] <joako> I don't understand why I need "mount --bind /home/users /export/users"  to run Ubuntu NFS server... can't I just directly export e.g. /home/joako?
[05:55] <NeT_DeMoN> If I get the error "Unable to connect to X server" how do I find out what's wrong or restart it since it dies after every restart?
[05:55] <DaPenguin> brophat, yeah, forgot to tell you it would do that, sorry
[05:56] <brophat> ok well still no wirless showing up in network manager
[05:56] <DaPenguin> brophat, hmm
[05:57] <DaPenguin> one sec
[05:57] <sunit> I am trying to run a sql file as cronjob every five minutes. I have written * * * * * /usr/bin/psql -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres openbravomp14 -1 -f /home/starlite/Desktop/SQLQuery1.sql > /tmp/trial.log 2>&1
[05:58] <sunit> Am I correct ?
[05:58] <restore_f2> hi
[05:58] <brophat> DaPenguin maybe the command didn't work right
[05:58] <brophat> i got suspended and had to power down
[05:58] <brophat> i got stuck in a black screen
[05:59] <DaPenguin> brophat, try this sudo wpasupplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -d and see what that outputs
[06:00] <DaPenguin> brophat , sorry, sudo wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i wlan0 -d
[06:01] <brophat> yeah it said command not found bwahahah
[06:01] <sheena> night all. thanks for the attempted help everyone. i'll probably be back tomorrow.
[06:01] <DaPenguin> brophat, typos ftl lol
[06:02] <brophat> DaPenguin it said failed to read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'
[06:02] <brophat> Failed to add interface wlan0
[06:02] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, so wpa_supplicant looks like it's not configured properly
[06:03] <joako> Is there some way to ensure nfs exports has 100% full permissions?
[06:03] <DaPenguin> brophat, you may need to do 'sudo apt-get purge wpasupplicant' and then 'sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[06:03] <brophat> DaPenguin i thin linux has a long way to go before it takes over windows bhahahaha
[06:04] <HRezaei> Hi. How to find where a program is installed?
[06:04] <jsoft> which cmd
[06:04] <HRezaei> how?
[06:04] <joako> I've put in my /etc/exports: /home/joako <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,sync,no_root_squash) and I can mount it on another system but I get "Operation not permitted"  errors if I try to actually use it
[06:04] <DaPenguin> brophat, it's the lack of proper driver support is all it is
[06:04] <brophat> DaPenguin yes i know and that is a lot
[06:04] <brophat> DaPenguin i am using wep
[06:05] <brophat> so does it matter if that thing is not configured properly?
[06:05] <b3gott3n> i would like to be queued up for a simple question
[06:05] <DaPenguin> brophat, ugh, you do realize wep keys are a joke to crack, right?
[06:05] <jrib> b3gott3n: no queue, just ask
[06:06] <brophat> DaPenguin yeah i know i read that somewhere
[06:06] <jsoft> brophat: as in stupidly easy
[06:06] <b3gott3n> so i installed a local copy of diaspora in ubuntu
[06:06] <brophat> DaPenguin linux should be more like mac and just target small number of hardware
[06:06] <b3gott3n> and part of setting up the config is to:
[06:06] <jsoft> brophat: :\
[06:06] <b3gott3n> "Diaspora needs to know what host it's running on. Copy config/app_config.yml.example to config/app_config.yml, put your external url into the pod_url field, and make any other needed configuration changes."
[06:06] <brophat> jsoft yes i know like dumb easy like bafoon easy
[06:06] <jrib> b3gott3n: (on one line please)
[06:07] <DaPenguin> brophat, well, it's trying to connect via wpa is the issue
[06:07] <brophat> DaPenguin yeah i did try to change it to wpa
[06:07] <brophat> i thought i did change it to wps
[06:07] <brophat> so maybe something wacked out
[06:07] <nixjr> how do i change my primary display when using multiple monitors?
[06:07] <DaPenguin> brophat, it's possible
[06:08] <lament> why does my internet connection (wireless) drop when I kill X?
[06:08] <bonjoyee> lament: connecting using network-manager?
[06:08] <b3gott3n> sorry jrib.  I just want to know how ubuntu sets up urls
[06:08] <lament> bonjoyee: i suppose.
[06:08] <DaPenguin> lament, probably because it's all being controlled via gnome's network manager
[06:08] <lament> well then
[06:08] <izinucs> lament: network manager might be the culprit.. set a static IP manually getting rid of NM.
[06:09] <brophat> DaPenguin ok sorry i need to do what you said ok doing it now
[06:09] <bonjoyee> lament: then you have to use "available to all" for that connection...
[06:09] <dnivra> I am trying to set up my phone with Ubuntu 10.10 I click on the bluetooth applet, set up new device, next and Ubuntu detects my phone but is just unable to connect to it. It just says "Connection to <phone> failed.". What is possibly wrong? I did it earlier but deleted the devices from both the phone and the computer before trying again.
[06:09] <izinucs> lament: or set an alias in ~/.bash_aliases to switch from static ip manually configured to network manager when in gui
[06:09] <lament> ehh
[06:10] <DaPenguin> brophat, try this, it's a bit dated but should still work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo?highlight=%28wpa%29
[06:10] <lament> is there a command-line network manager?
[06:10] <jrib> b3gott3n: what aren't you sure about?  You seem to have pasted the instructions
[06:10] <jrib> lament: nmcli
[06:10] <DaPenguin> lament, ifconfig and iwconfig for wifi
[06:10] <lament> thanks
[06:11] <izinucs> lament: not really.. /etc/network/interfaces & /etc/hosts  along with what DaPenguin said
[06:11] <b3gott3n> jrib:  i don't know what the external url would be because i'm not running a web server
[06:11] <jrib> izinucs: see nmcli (there's also cnetworkmanager)
[06:11] <lament> i'm fine with a static ip really
[06:11] <brophat> DaPenguin i purged and reinstalled now i have back the wirless symbol but when i click on it it says network manager now running
[06:12] <izinucs> jrib: that's why I hang out here.. learn something every time :) thanks
[06:12] <DaPenguin> brophat, and no networks listed?
[06:12] <jrib> b3gott3n: in that case, ask #diaspora :)
[06:12] <brophat> DaPenguin correct
[06:12] <brophat> do i need to reboot or something?
[06:13] <DaPenguin> brophat, probably easiest, or at least restart network manager
[06:13] <brophat> how do i restart network manager
[06:14] <dnivra> brophat, "sudo service network-manager restart"
[06:14] <DaPenguin> brophat, log out and then back in should do it if i'm not mistaken
[06:14] <DaPenguin> brophat, or that lol
[06:14] <brophat> let me log out cuse i think you got something misspelled again hahaha
[06:14] <DaPenguin> brophat, again, my gui experience is somewhat limited, especially on the gnome side
[06:15] <brophat> yeah hold on will be right back
[06:15] <brophat> but i think you are onto something cause i got my wirless symbol back on network manager
[06:16] <Danielcg25> I'm running Ubuntu via a USB stick. I need to clone the two HDDs I have plugged in. How do I do this?
[06:17] <DaPenguin> Danielcg25, man dd
[06:17] <Danielcg25> ?
[06:17] <Danielcg25> (I'm a linux newbie)
[06:17] <bonjoyee> Danielcg25: http://clonezilla.org
[06:18] <DaPenguin> Danielcg25, dd is what you would use to clone the drives. typing man dd in a console gives you the manual page for it
[06:18] <DaPenguin> Danielcg25, or any other cli command for that matter
[06:19] <Danielcg25> bonjoyee: I tried that, but I don't know which one to get. There's i486, and i686, but I have a i386 Ubuntu that works... Idk which one would work. I have a Pentium D if that helps
[06:19] <Danielcg25> Would mounting both drives and Ctrl+C everything and then Ctrl+V on the other drive work?
[06:20] <bonjoyee> Danielcg25: i686..it doesnt matter really...as it copies at data block level..the os does not matter..
[06:20] <Danielcg25> Ok
[06:20] <quiescens> dd.. can be used if both drives are the same size, something like clonezilla is probably preferable
[06:21] <Danielcg25> One drive is 150 GB, and the other is 1TB
[06:21] <bonjoyee> Danielcg25: also dd copies the unused blocks as well...which i feel is inefficient..
[06:21] <Sakara> hey all, just installed ubuntu and now my previous Windows 7 install can't be booted. Its not in the list
[06:21] <Sakara> Windows 7 is still there ubuntu was installed on another drive
[06:22] <brophat> DaPenguin i am now offline
[06:22] <Danielcg25> Sakara: It's your Bootloader....
[06:22] <Sakara> yes I know
[06:22] <monkeyDk> if I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev
[06:22] <Sakara> sudo grub-update doens't pick it up
[06:22] <brophat> network manager is not showing up and cannot connect to internet
[06:22] <quiescens> Danielcg25: if you are copying to the smaller drive, dd will possibly be incomplete, if you are copying to the larger drive, you won't neccesarily be able to use the additional space unless you edit your partitioning manually afterwards
[06:23] <DaPenguin> brophat, try network-manager & in a console
[06:23] <brophat> DaPenguin guess now it is time for you to start errasing my hard drive vwahahahaha
[06:23] <quiescens> Danielcg25: your best bet is probably to use clonezilla or something as bonjoyee suggested
[06:23] <brophat> ok
[06:23] <Danielcg25> Well, I tried Ctrl+Cing everything and it couldn't copy my virus software :(
[06:23] <DaPenguin> brophat, lol, that comes later :P
[06:23] <jrib> Sakara: can you mount the windows drive in ubuntu?
[06:23] <Sakara> yes
[06:23] <zhangfei> hello
[06:24] <brophat> DaPenguin after all you are the penguin
[06:24] <Sakara> jrib: Eveything is still there
[06:24] <monkeyDk> if I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev /dev/shm, /var/run, /var/lock and /lib/init/rw ?
[06:24] <zhangfei> where are you
[06:24] <zhangfei> ?
[06:24] <Danielcg25> "There was an error copying the file into /media/Local Disk (C:)/Program Data/AVG 10/chjw.
[06:24] <WarWalker> hello world
[06:24] <DaPenguin> brophat, *DO NOT DO THIS* sudo rm -rf /*
[06:24] <brophat> DaPenguin it said network-manager can not be found
[06:25] <Danielcg25> Error opening file: Input/Output error
[06:25] <Linuxpwns> How do I change the volume icon on Ubuntu 10.10 to resemble the following image: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/small/pulseaudiovolume-small_010.png I like don't like how the new one  acts. Is it possible to change it so it resembles the old style vertical bar?
[06:25] <Danielcg25> ;(
[06:25] <jrib> Sakara: ok.  In my case, grub-update could not find windows because a fuse bug prevented me from being able to mount the windows partition
[06:25] <brophat> DaPenguin ok will do
[06:25] <Sakara> :(
[06:25] <DaPenguin> brophat, no don't do that, that WILL erase your hdd!!
[06:25] <Sakara> I am using grub-pc grub-common packages, would they have notheing to do with it
[06:25] <brophat> DaPenguin i now
[06:25] <dnivra> !who | zhangfei
[06:26] <zhangfei> what is this?
[06:26] <brophat> there are some things i do know
[06:26] <DaPenguin> brophat, lol
[06:26] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: I don't remember -- but I think it's something like "gnome-media" -- Try using tab,tab.
[06:26] <dnivra> !support  | zhangfei
[06:26] <monkeyDk> can anyone help me please ?
[06:26] <dnivra> !ask | monkeyDk
[06:26] <jrib> !helpme | monkeyDk
[06:26] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: Try "gnome-volume-control"
[06:27] <brophat> it said the command network-manager can not be found
[06:27] <DaPenguin> brophat, try this 'sudo service network-manager start'
[06:27] <brophat> DaPenguin i did not do sudo before
[06:27] <brophat> maybe i should have done sudo
[06:27] <DaPenguin> brophat, no, it's a service, not an actual runable app
[06:28] <brophat> ok
[06:29] <monkeyDk> if I type df, I see the folders sda1, and sda6 which are my partitons and it make sence, but why does linux list also /dev /dev/shm, /var/run, /var/lock and /lib/init/rw ?
[06:29] <brophat> DaPenguin it said network-manager unrecognized service
[06:29] <Linuxpwns> red2kic, its already installed.
[06:29] <dnivra> monkeyDk, see man df. it says it reports disk space usage.
[06:30] <brophat> DaPenguin you do understan that i am offline with my ubuntu and i am using my mac right now
[06:30] <monkeyDk> dnivra: sure, but why does it list these folders as well ?
[06:30] <DaPenguin> brophat, yeah, i got that, try this 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[06:30] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: I'm not talking about the package. I can't remember but one of the commands will bring up the gnome-volume-control-applet that you want to use.
[06:31] <Linuxpwns> red2kic, look at the following image: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/How-to-Replace-the-Volume-Control-in-Ubuntu-9-04-with-the-PulseAudio-One-2.jpg notice how when you want to change the volume its just a simple vertical bar...
[06:31] <Linuxpwns> Oh ok.
[06:32] <brophat> DaPenguin ok it took the command but i am still offline
[06:32] <dnivra> monkeyDk, because they are all mounted file systems.
[06:33] <DaPenguin> brophat, does ifconfig show any active interfaces?
[06:33] <dnivra> brophat, DaPenguin you could also try '/etc/init.d/network-manager restart' as root.
[06:33] <monkeyDk> dnivra: dont understand why they have to be mounted
[06:34] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: "gnome-volume-control-applet" ?
[06:34] <brophat> DaPenguin ifconfig only shows lo
[06:34] <dnivra> monkeyDk, I'm not familiar with the specifics sorry. you might want to read about it online or ask in ##linux. I could make only this much sense from the man page.
[06:35] <r0fs3ck5> Hi, has anyone had any experience getting a Leadtek DTV 1800 H going on ubuntu 10.04 amd64?
[06:35] <Linuxpwns> does not work in terminal or is missing?
[06:35] <jiltdil> brophat:may u please repeat your question
[06:35] <waitme> hello
[06:36] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, you jiltdil he's trying to get wifi up and running
[06:36] <jiltdil> ok
[06:36] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok you should probably try a reboot or a dbus restart
[06:37] <zhangfei> ur5xcs<EMAIL_ADDRESS>加入了 #ubuntu
 brophat, ok you should probably try a reboot or a dbus restart
[06:37] <brophat> DaPenguin i did a reboot and that is when it came up without any network manager and offline
[06:37] <brophat> how do i do a dbus restart again?
[06:38] <DaPenguin> brophat, 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart'
[06:39] <jrib> brophat, DaPenguin: while it doesn't matter in this case, it's good practice to now use the « service » instead of calling the /etc/init.d directly.  So to restart dbus one would do « sudo service dbus restart »
[06:39] <brophat> DaPenguin ok same thing happened as last time i get stuck in black screen
[06:40] <brophat> yea i am stuck in black screan saying checkint battery state
[06:40] <DaPenguin> jrib, ok, i'll keep that in mind
[06:40] <brophat> and i am going to have to force  a power down
[06:40] <DaPenguin> brophat, ugh, ok
[06:42] <jiltdil> brophat:r u want to start wifi ?
[06:42] <jiltdil> brophat:or just want to up it
[06:43] <brophat> DaPenguin ok no network manager and no internet
[06:44] <DaPenguin> brophat, reinstalling wpasupplicant shouldn't have knocked out your networking completely.
[06:44] <brophat> ok maybe i should reinstall ubuntu hahaha
[06:44] <DaPenguin> brophat, there's something else going on here
[06:45] <brophat> yeah maybe someting we did yesterday to it
[06:45] <DaPenguin> brophat, it may be you need to boot the kernel with the noacpi option...
[06:46] <brophat> DaPenguin ok how do i do that bwahahahaha
[06:46] <intrader_> DaPenguin, when you have a chance; I am struggling with problem at boot - I get a terminal window that asks for login.
[06:46] <DaPenguin> intrader_, still having the same problem, huh?
[06:47] <Seven_Six_Two> how do I add a kernel parameter in 10.10?
[06:47] <jrib> !grub2 | Seven_Six_Two
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: in /etc/default/grub   the default ones are: quiet splash
[06:47] <ruan> intrader_:  can you login and type "startx" ?
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: after you add the option in the quotes, save the file and then run: sudo update-grub
[06:48] <brophat> DaPenguin i think reinstalling ubuntu maybe a good idea
[06:48] <intrader_> DaPenguin, yes - I am unable to go back to previous version of kernel; I have tried synaptic uninstall of linux. It loops in synaptic never ending update.
[06:48] <DaPenguin> brophat, yeah, booting with noacpi involves editing the grub.cfg file
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: no it doesnt
[06:49] <brophat> Dapenguin ok will look into that
[06:49] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, is there another way to do it now?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: add it in /etc/default/grub :)
[06:49] <Seven_Six_Two> oh dammit. jrib, ActionParsnip I looked at that file too...I did a google search! I don't know why I didn't see that. thanks
[06:49] <brophat> DaPenguin where is that file?
[06:49] <DaPenguin> brophat, hold on a sec
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: grub.cfg is generated, so changes made will be lost next time a kernel is added
[06:49] <ranjan> hi all i am going to try ubuntu cloud trial on amazon ec2 but i am not able to ssh :(
[06:49] <ranjan> any idea?
[06:49] <Seven_Six_Two> I keep getting a kernel Aieee!
[06:50] <intrader_> ruan, no it goes back to the terminal window
[06:50] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, ah, ok, gotcha, see where that needs to get changed
[06:50] <Seven_Six_Two> The only problem I can see from /var/logs/messages is when the clocksource is switched.
[06:50] <brophat> I think linux should be like mac in that it should pick a small set of hardware and write the code for that specific hardware
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: if you run:  head /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:51] <Seven_Six_Two> brophat, that's a horrible idea!
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: it even tells you to NOT edit tthe file ;)
[06:51] <brophat> ok seven just a thought
[06:51] <heyguise> Hey guys. I'm trying to map a joypad to keyboard commands.  Latest thing I have tried is to uninstall the linux kernel I am having problems with.
[06:53] <Linuxpwns> heyguise: sudo apt-get install joy2key             in terminal if you wish
[06:53] <fnordfnord> This is a test message. Please ignore it. Love, your local channel operators.
[06:53] <mymeatinyourseat> heyguise, try xbcd or xpadder or pennicle
[06:53] <ruan> intrader_: have you tried regenerating xorg.conf
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: exactly, the default boot options are: quiet splash   you add the options in the quotes, then sudo update-grub will add the options in grub.cfg for your current kernels but it will also add it to subsequent kernels too :)
[06:54] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, kk, gotcha
[06:54] <fnordfnord> hrm, apparently I am not cool enough to get spam :|
[06:54] <RubenAlonzo> anyone running 11.04 narwhal? was just wondering about that unity bar that is a constant in mav meerkat on my left side of screen, if there will be option to auto hide it or something?
[06:54] <heyguise> okay i got it installed
[06:54] <heyguise> RubenAlonzo, i hate it too
[06:54] <intrader_> ruan, no - but as ActionParsnip says, it is regenerated.
[06:54] <rww> RubenAlonzo: #ubuntu+1 for natty discussion and support please
[06:54] <DaPenguin> ok brophat, here's what we do :)
[06:54] <b3gott3n> other channels got that spam as well
[06:54] <heyguise> RubenAlonzo, when your booting up before you type your password and what not select "Ubuntu classic" in the boot options at the bottom.
[06:54] <Lanlost> I'm using Ubuntu Studio. I have a strange problem that has afflicted me on this computer and I feel like on my last one too. On my old computer, I had much bigger flash performance issues. One video would be fine. Two tabs.. ok.., if I had more than three (I could have a million NON flash sites open) then.. my computer would basically be unusable
[06:55] <lament> any ops around?
[06:55] <rww> lament: hi
[06:55] <Lanlost> anyway, I'm not having that problem on this much better computer
[06:55] <DaPenguin> brophat, sudo nano /etc/defaults/grub
[06:55] <brophat> ok
[06:55] <Lanlost> my question is, my computer plays flash fine now. I can watch 720p, etc, fine.. multiple windows, 10 youtube windows, etc
[06:55] <RubenAlonzo> heyguise: thanks i will lookfor that option upon next boot
[06:55] <rww> lament: or in general, #ubuntu-ops
[06:55] <DaPenguin> brophat, look for the line that reads GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[06:56] <brophat> ok found it
[06:56] <Lanlost> The problem is.. the video will be playing fine.. then all of a sudden the video itself will freeze but the audio will continue.. then like 5 seconds later... the whole computer will lock up. It doesn't have time to grey out the window
[06:56] <Lanlost> then like 15 seconds later.. it will suddenly spring back to action.. the screen will come OUT of grey and everything will be fine. I never see it grey out though.. it's just:
[06:56] <DaPenguin> were going to add noacpi to the end of the options list, then ctrl-o to save the file then ctrl-x to exit
[06:57] <brophat> yeah i learned how to use nano last night
[06:57] <Lanlost> Playing video -> video stops but audio continues -> 5 seconds later BOTH stop (still color) -> 15 seconds later POPS back into action.. screen suddenly comes out of grey.
[06:57] <DaPenguin> brophat,  kk lol
[06:57] <Lanlost> Anyone ever had that issue?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: read dmesg with the watch command and see if it has any clues
[06:57] <Lanlost> ah
[06:57] <Linuxpwns> RubenAlonzo: There is the ability to auto hide in the 11.04 release with Unity i believe
[06:57] <brophat> but what options list?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: also try a different browser to isolate the issue
[06:57] <mymeatinyourseat> can anyone pm me and tell me how to run halo ce on ubuntu
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> !wine | mymeatinyourseat
[06:57] <DaPenguin> brophat, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash noacpi"
[06:58] <brophat> ok ic
[06:58] <Lanlost> Nothing in dmesg at all
[06:58] <Lanlost> in hours..
[06:58] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, flash video?
[06:58] <Lanlost> yes
[06:58] <RubenAlonzo> Linuxpwns: thanks! cant wait for final release, i finally got rid of windows completely on my little netbook
[06:58] <Lanlost> It's annoying because sometimes it won't happen for hours.. even though I have 10 tabs open.
[06:58] <brophat> DaPenguin ok done
[06:58] <ioria> where am i ?
[06:58] <brophat> now what
[06:59] <brophat> reboot?
[06:59] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, now sudo update-grub
[06:59] <ioria> coooolllllll
[06:59] <nixjr> how do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?
[06:59] <mymeatinyourseat> thanks, ap, but every time I try n open wine or the halo cd, I always get that red like do not enter sign..??
[06:59] <brophat> DaPenguin ok done
[06:59] <brophat> nowwhat rebooot?
[06:59] <Lanlost> And then other times.. I have one tab open, one simple like 480p video and it will happen, and then it snaps back and then 10 seconds later it happens again. No hard drive thrashing.. usually it happens once and then I'm fine for that video. I don't get it.
[06:59] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, now try and reboot
[06:59] <Lanlost> The main reason I'm asking now is because. it seems to be happening on every video. Maybe I'll record a video
[07:00] <RubenAlonzo> oh man, schumacher does not make it into Q3 final qualifying in melbourne just now
[07:00] <Linuxpwns> RubenAlonzo: Yep i've been looking at previews/reviews of 11.04 on youtube
[07:00] <Shuujin96> schumacher is still alive?
[07:00] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, yeah, i've been having that issue ever since the last flash update on some sites
[07:00] <johny_> I have installed ndiswrapper plus an appropriate wireless driver for my chip but wireless is still not working, someone please help
[07:00] <nixjr> how do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?
[07:01] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, or it might have something to do with firefox 4 and flash
[07:01] <brophat> DaPenguin still the same no network manager and still offline
[07:01] <RubenAlonzo> Linuxpwns: i saw a video of alpha 3 release, and indeed there seemed to be an option to autohide it or smart hide it in case of full window on another application, but it could still change, i am hoping they will keep it like that where we get the option to choose to hide it because my netbook has a 10.1 inch screen
[07:02] <DaPenguin> brophat, ok, something weird is going on here
[07:02] <brophat> your telling me bwahahaha
[07:02] <ioria> may i ask a question, please ?
[07:02] <DaPenguin> !ask
[07:02] <nixjr> how do i set the primary display when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?
[07:02] <Lanlost> DaPenguin, I'm on FF3. You are having THAT issue though? To a tee?
[07:03] <Linuxpwns> RubenAlonzo: I agree. A keyboard shortcut/hotkey to only bring it up when you want would be nice as well don't you think?
[07:03] <RubenAlonzo> Linuxpwns: THAT option woild be ideal!
[07:03] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, depends, some sites do that (certain youtube videos) or they give me bad pixelization
[07:03] <RubenAlonzo> pardon my spelling
[07:03] <jiltdil> how to open .odp via termianl (open office)
[07:03] <Lanlost> It's hard to find anything on google becuase if you search for "flash video temporary freeze linux firefox" or any combination of any symptom.. you find much more serious issues like flash LOCKING UP firefox .. or resetting or whatever
[07:03] <Lanlost> I dont have pixelization
[07:03] <ruan> jiltdil: do you want to edit it via terminal or open openoffice with terminal?
[07:03] <Lanlost> anyway, I'll keep you posted if I seem to solve it. I added more ram recently and it had no effect.
[07:04] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, linux and flash have always been buggy together
[07:04] <RubenAlonzo> ioria: dont be afraid to ask please, just type your question, if someone knows they will steer you in the right direction
[07:04] <jiltdil> ruan: i have a .odp ready i want to open it from terminal to see it
[07:04] <johny_> I have installed ndiswrapper plus an appropriate wireless driver for my chip but wireless is still not working, someone please help
[07:04] <ioria> thanx. naturally i'm newbie. and my Movie Player does',t work, so i installed Xine and it works fine... i don't understand why ?
[07:04] <DaPenguin> ioria, you may need the gstreamer non-free plugins
[07:04] <nixjr> how do i set the primary monitor when using "separate x session" with multiple monitors?
[07:04] <brophat> Dapenguin what do yo think should i reinstall ubuntu?
[07:04] <Seven_Six_Two> I think my kernel panics were caused by cpu freq scaling, and the kernel switching clocksources...
[07:05] <DaPenguin> brophat, honestly, at this point i'd say go for it...lol
[07:05] <ioria> non-free ... with apt-get ?
[07:05] <brophat> ok hahaaha
[07:05] <ruan> jiltdil: run "openoffice.org file.odp"
[07:05] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, nvidia?
[07:05] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, yes
[07:06] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, there's a check box in nvidia-settings   but remember to run it as root so that it can write xorg.conf
[07:06] <jiltdil> ruan:thanx
[07:06] <jiltdil> ruan: and how to edit it via termainl
[07:06] <DaPenguin> !restricted | ioria
[07:06] <RubenAlonzo> brb
[07:07] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, in "twinview" there is a check box for primary, but i dont want 1 spanned desktop, i want separate ones, in "separate x session" there is not check box for primary
[07:07] <heyguise> grr, okay im working in joy2key. I have .joy2keyrc open. I'm trying to figure out how to map the button but this forum page is blowing my mind.
[07:07] <DaPenguin> ioria, ubuntu doesn't come with proprietary format support by default due to a couple different issues.
[07:07] <razz1> scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:hardware.html  I am trying to copy a file from the remote system to my computer, this command is not working, what's wrong
[07:07] <ioria> sudo apt-get gstreamer non-free plugins ... this is the command ?
[07:07] <DaPenguin> ioria, honestly i just use vlc, never had any issues
[07:08] <jsoft> vlc ftw
[07:08] <DaPenguin> ioria, check out the link from ubottu, that should give you instructions for installing the necessary plugins
[07:08] <ioria> ok :_)
[07:08] <ioria> thanx
[07:08] <DaPenguin> ioria, np :)
[07:09] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, what do you suppose "primary" means with separate x screens?
[07:10] <ruan> jiltdil: im not sure, only if terminal has a way to read openoffice files
[07:10] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, really, with separate x screens, the only consideration is relative location.
[07:10] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, or absolute, if you're into that kind of thing. ;)
[07:10] <ruan> jiltdil: you can try "nano file" but it may not read properly
[07:11] <RubenAlonzo> is there a way to get Safari browser on ubuntu? if not what is the next closest thing to it please?
[07:11] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, i have 2 monitors, one connected with vga and one with dvi, on ym desk the dvi is tot he left and the vga to the right, when using "separate x session" the vga monitor ont he right is whjere my login prompt comes up, and the mouse spans from the right of the right monitor, into the left of the left monitor
[07:11] <jiltdil> ruan:is there any way to play video under the terminal not outside ?
[07:11] <nixjr> i want ti reversed
[07:11] <DaPenguin> RubenAlonzo, konq and safari share similar codebases if i remember correctly
[07:12] <Linuxpwns> RubenAlonzo: Download PlayOnLinux and once installed go to Internet section and download Safari
[07:12] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, drag and drop the monitor locations at the top of nvidia-setting?
[07:12] <jiltdil> ruan:nano is not reading odp
[07:12] <Seven_Six_Two> RubenAlonzo, I've read that safari uses the khtml engine, which is used in konqueror.
[07:12] <Lanlost> so at my job, for PCI compliance, I just found out that I need to have a virus scanner on ..all PCs, they consider this Windows AND Linux.
[07:12] <RubenAlonzo> DaPenguin: thanks i will that and also Linuxpwns' idea of playonlinux
[07:12] <Lanlost> But Macs don't need one.
[07:13] <jsoft> Lanlost: :\
[07:13] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, lol
[07:13] <heyguise> any one have an example config for joy2key for a sixaxis controller?
[07:13] <RubenAlonzo> Seven_Six_Two: thanks
[07:13] <Lanlost> yeah
[07:13] <RubenAlonzo> brb
[07:13] <Linuxpwns> ruben, its not perfect though its a bit buggy.... it might crash because of missing dependencies
[07:13] <jsoft> Lanlost: so what you going to do?
[07:14] <Lanlost> Don't you guys love it when you get one of those "VIRUS DETECTED" pop-ups that look like "My Computer" pops up when you're using Linux? =P
[07:14] <jsoft> Yeah :)
[07:14] <heyguise> ohh, okay i get it lets see
[07:14] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, lol, yeah, those are hilarious :P
[07:14] <red2kic> Lanlost: I'm going to make one for Ubuntu.
[07:14] <lament> i don't, that's why i got adblock
[07:14] <Lanlost> make one?
[07:14] <razz1> scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:hardware.html  I am trying to copy a file from the remote system to my computer, this command is not working, what's wrong, the remote ip is 192.294.12.149. I can SSh, just the syntax is wrong. please help
[07:14] <ioria> bye
[07:14] <Lanlost> isn't there ClamAV for linux or something?
[07:15] <red2kic> razz1:...149:hardware.html is wrong.
[07:15] <Linuxpwns> heyguise: Sorry, I use my sixaxis controller for a PSX emulator to play gran turismo and driver
[07:15] <Seven_Six_Two> Lanlost, yes. you can install that
[07:15] <red2kic> Lanlost: No, I meant the adveristment.
[07:15] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, youd think they'd at least use alert("VIRUS DETECTED") or something like that lol
[07:15] <jsoft> Lanlost: yeah there is, but its pretty much for detecting windows viruses
[07:15] <Lanlost> I know there are linux virus scanners. I asked a guy at my work what he was going to do and he said he got one. I asked him what it does and he said it searches for viruses
[07:15] <slim_charles> Can anyone help me with something related to FTP/
[07:15] <slim_charles> ?
[07:15] <jsoft> Lanlost: clamav
[07:15] <red2kic> razz1: Use ...149:~/path/to/hardware.html
[07:15] <Lanlost> but really, there aren't any I know of in the wild obviously. Is it a .. virus database of what... all the viruses you can count on one hand?
[07:16] <Lanlost> I thought Macs were equally safe but from what I understand, this isn't necessarily true as of the last few years
[07:16] <heyguise> okay one last question i think i got it. Whats left click "Rclick" ?
[07:16] <red2kic> razz1: Maybe... 149:~/Desktop/hardware.html
[07:16] <heyguise> sorry "lclick"
[07:16] <razz1> red2kic: ok i want to copy the hardware.html file from the home dir. thats why I did not specify ~
[07:16] <heyguise> or?
[07:16] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, linux virus scanners primarily exist for sanitizing incoming email if you're using the box in a server capacity
[07:16] <Seven_Six_Two> There are something like 50 linux virus (none that do anything) and 50k windows virus
[07:16] <red2kic> razz1: Use ~/hardware.html then.
[07:16] <Lanlost> I guess that while Macs are inherently secure.. they pretty much know what set up you have.. or at least it's narrowed down and so they COULD take advantage of vulnerabilities
[07:16] <Lanlost> DaPengiun, makes sense
[07:16] <heyguise> macs are inheritly secure, kind of like prison.
[07:17] <jsoft> Lanlost: just put clamav on your linux stuff
[07:17] <Lanlost> I also mentioned that there are ones that will scan NTFS partitions and such for Windows viruses and people laughed at me
[07:17] <jsoft> and then you can say 'sure I have a virus scanner on the linux box'
[07:17] <Linuxpwns> Seven_Six_Two I beg to differ.
[07:17] <red2kic> Lanlost: Mac and antivirus and linux are useless as soon as you give the users the admin password.
[07:17] <razz1> red2kic: tried ~ does not work. It used to work,
[07:17] <Linuxpwns> There are nasty Linux viruses
[07:17] <red2kic> razz1: Paste the whole line.
[07:17] <Lanlost> but really.. that would be a GREAT tool IMO. Being able to boot a live cd for someone using Windows and getting a nice scan where NO windows files are loaded into memory or anything
[07:17] <Seven_Six_Two> there are as secure as the user putting in the password. same as linux
[07:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, with what? there could easily be a virus for linux if a n00b installs it.
[07:18] <Lanlost> red2kic, that's why you avoid that when you can.
[07:18] <Lanlost> =)
[07:18] <ruan> jiltdil: VLC can play videos as ASCII in a terminal i believe
[07:18] <razz1> red2kic:  scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:~hardware.html
[07:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, oh I see. I thought you meant that the other way...
[07:18] <Lanlost> jsoft, I think I will just use clamav
[07:18] <Linuxpwns> my point exactly
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: you can, just install clamav / clamtk in livecd and svan
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> *scan
[07:18] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, the problem with linux viruses is that they'd have to be installed with root perms to do anything lol
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> ruan: mplayer does it too
[07:18] <jsoft> Yeah I was once asked to install a virus scanner for linux by a PHB. Never did in the end
[07:19] <Linuxpwns> DaPenguin, true for most.
[07:19] <heyguise> any one know the keymap for left click is it "L_click" ?
[07:19] <red2kic> razz1: scp -vv -C -P 39999 ~/hardware.html<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:19] <v_v> is there any virus ruuning on linux ?
[07:19] <toshiba> cant access my videos on line
[07:19] <ruan> v_v: no
[07:19] <slim_charles> can anyone tell me how to setup an ftp server
[07:19] <juk> DaPenguin: no people just love linux
[07:19] <slim_charles> so i can view it from bmy website, when im not home?
[07:19] <v_v> ruan: so they  are all for windows files ?
[07:19] <razz1> red2kic: no I want to copy from remote system, not to
[07:19] <ruan> v_v: viruses are made for windows
[07:20] <ruan> v_v: for a virus to work in linux, you'd have to give it full permission to ruin your computer
[07:20] <red2kic> razz1: scp -vv -C -P 39999 crow@192.294.12.149:~/hardware.html
[07:20] <heyguise> *nix doesnt really need virus's. The users do a good enough job breaking it them selves
[07:20] <slim_charles> if u have wine
[07:20] <slim_charles> u could get windows viruses
[07:20] <v_v> :P
[07:20] <juk> heyguise: :D
[07:20] <v_v> funny
[07:20] <Lanlost> You know, now that I think about it. It probably IS good to have a virus scanner at my job (webhosting), even on Linux.
[07:20] <jsoft> You could in theory exploit something as a normal user and insert some virus that way
[07:20] <DaPenguin> slim_charles, and your entire .wine folder would be in jeopardy lol
[07:20] <ruan> lol
[07:20] <razz1> got it
[07:20] <Lanlost> Even if it is just scanning your email, it could stop you from sending it to someone who is using Windows by forwarding mail or something.. infecting them and so on.
[07:21] <red2kic> razz1: Great.
[07:21] <Lanlost> compromising your network and then some.
[07:21] <red2kic> Compromising the Internet.
[07:21] <slim_charles> DaPenguin, uhm is wine sandboxed? im sure u  can access filesystem
[07:21] <slim_charles> so i dont know about that
[07:21] <ruan> what if they're all linux users? :D
[07:21] <Lanlost> I think that's already happened ;-)
[07:21] <Lanlost> Ruan, is that directed at me?
[07:21] <Seven_Six_Two> wine is sandboxed
[07:21] <DaPenguin> slim_charles, i'm pretty sure wine is in fact sandboxed
[07:22] <ruan> well, everyone in the conversation
[07:22] <heyguise> does any one know the keymap for a left click? some one must
[07:22] <Lanlost> I was told I can run linux if I don't modify the hardware... I think they thought that would stop me somehow. So I just installed it to a decently sized USB stick. Voila.
[07:22] <Lanlost> Hurray for loopholes...
[07:22] <razz1> red2kic:  sorry about the confusion, I got the hardware file, i could not get the .x11vncrc file, it would not copy to my ~ had to copy it to desktop
[07:22] <slim_charles> DaPenguin, doesn wine run as current user
[07:22] <jsoft> Lanlost: 'modify' ?
[07:23] <slim_charles> so it does have access to home directory
[07:23] <sunjun> hi
[07:23] <red2kic> razz1: Are you on local network?
[07:23] <jsoft> sunjun: oh, hai
[07:23] <Lanlost> The computers are supplied to us and they consider partitioning modification
[07:23] <DaPenguin> slim_charles, no, just the filesystem in the .wine directory
[07:23] <Seven_Six_Two> slim_charles, iirc, wine is sandboxed. sort of like a chroot
[07:23] <red2kic> razz1: 192* I think so. Use Places --> Connect To Server.
[07:23] <Lanlost> I would assume. I probably shouldn't have mentioned I would have to partition the drive. Sounds scary to management possibly.
[07:23] <slim_charles> i see
[07:23] <DaPenguin> slim_charles, try running winefile and see if you can browse out to ~
[07:23] <razz1> red2kic: some on local, some on the net.
[07:24] <Lanlost> But really, they should WANT us to use Linux if we can. I would think so at least. I think the main thing is that we are going to be implementing Active Directory.
[07:24] <Seven_Six_Two> I've had quite a few windows viruses actually. in .wine
[07:24] <slim_charles> DaPenguin, well i have run WinRAR before and im sure i was xtracting stuff under the home directory
[07:24] <Lanlost> I feel like such a noob when it comes to stuff like active directory. Then again, I've never had to use it or anything so I guess it's alright.
[07:24] <razz1> red2kic: I had to replace the .x11vncrc file on my system. it just would not copy to the ~ but copy to Desktop
[07:24] <ruan> why winrar if you have p7zip?
[07:24] <red2kic> razz1: Okay. Use Places --> Connect To Server --> SSH.
[07:24] <Linuxpwns> DaPenguin: I read somewhere or saw a video i can't remember what the guy did, but he demonstrated its possible to screw up your Linux box if you honestly have no idea what you are doing. What happens is the unexperienced Linux user downloads a ".desktop" file thinking its an image or document, instead it installs a nasty piece of malware that forks a daemon process that goes through and data mines the Firefox .sqlite  finds what i
[07:24] <Linuxpwns> t wants and routes the appropiate information to the attacker...
[07:24] <red2kic> razz1: Perhaps the file exist.
[07:24] <toshiba> i cant upload any video website except youtube any answers
[07:25] <Lanlost> Linuxpwns, that's DEFINITELY possible. That's also definitely user error.
[07:25] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, ok, i guess that could be a possibility
[07:25] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, again, that's only for one user. not the box
[07:25] <razz1> red2kic: no the file does not exist. i am sure. it might me  the way scp works. its a . file
[07:25] <heyguise> does any one know the keymap for a left click? some one must. is it "L_click" ?
[07:25] <red2kic> razz1: Well if it went to Desktop, I'm sure you can just mv it.
[07:26] <razz1> yes
[07:26] <razz1> red2kic: thanks, back to work
[07:26] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, the advantage tho is that the average nix user is smart enough not to do something that dumb....hopefully....lol
[07:26] <Linuxpwns> True, but it goes to show not all infections need root access to do damage
[07:26] <heyguise> okay i can use xev to figure it out
[07:27] <ruan> they can damage your /home/ dir if you havent backed it up
[07:27] <ruan> but they still need to be marked as executable, etc
[07:27] <Lanlost> You know, we have people all the time whos sites get hacked and they blame it on us, as you can possibly imagine. Then it turns out that their password was horrific. I always thought it was a myth that people used such bad passwords.
[07:27] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, i know for a fact that people use horrible passwords
[07:27] <Lanlost> And then these days people finally start to make it more complex.. but that's due to other websites complaining.. so they do the tried and true Word01 instead of just 'word'
[07:27] <red2kic> It is a myth that people always brush their teeth.
[07:27] <allu2> Linuxpwns: there isn't a system where user isn't vulnerability :P it would require blocking user to make "secure" system
[07:27] <Lanlost> DaPenguin, I'm sure you've seen that then.
[07:28] <ruan> block the user out, megaAI
[07:28] <Lanlost> Beatles1
[07:28] <Linuxpwns> haha true allu2
[07:28] <Linuxpwns> But in the case of this example I saw ...this nasty piece of malware reconfigured the guys gnome menu
[07:28] <Lanlost> I would say at least it's better than 'beatles' but.. really.. I would think that most people trying to crack password would compensate that.
[07:28] <Lanlost> This job is one of those that you really get to see things from the other perspective.
[07:29] <jiltdil> ruan: what is the command to play video in terminal
[07:29] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, at my work when people first get hired there accounts are all set to default passwords that they have to change. you would be amazed at how many people just tack a 1 at the end or something
[07:29] <Linuxpwns> And if the user was to ever use a program which requires root access (for example synaptic) he would also be giving the malware root access, thus doing system wide dmaage
[07:29] <rypervenche> I ran a bash script using the "Run" option instead of "Run in terminal", but it needs sudo powers. Will it be running in the background forever until I restart my computer?
[07:30] <mycosys> do you guys know what do-release-upgrade does that synaptic wont? pretty sure do-release-upgrade will break my install in a nasty way... I have a number of repos enabled on jaunty that are a fair way ahead of what is standard on karmic ie mythbuntu weekly builds lol, and winswitch, and deluge, and medibuntu. I have synaptic doing download only atm - so that when it finishes i can chose one or the other. normally use apt-get but synaptic is better at b
[07:30] <red2kic> jiltdil: Point your mouse to the Fluffy-Dinosaurs.avi and double-click. Otherwise, use "vlc Fluffy-Dinosaurs.avi"
[07:30] <Lanlost> I like to try to explain it like "If we were a company that provided storage units, of course we have to do our job to make sure the area is secure.. but if you give someone/lose your key we can't really be responsible if someone 'breaks in.' We WILL try to lock it though if we do happen to come across it."
[07:30] <allu2> Linuxpwns: but as i said, if we block user from doing anything i think linux is quite secure system ;)
[07:30] <Linuxpwns> True, but the boss will complain of lack of productivity :(
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: no just kill its PID when you want it to stop
[07:30] <mycosys> allu2 - linux on power is good for that lol
[07:30] <Lanlost> rypervenche, have you tried running 'top' to see if it's running? It probably ran and closed. Also, try "killall <command/program name>"
[07:31] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: How can I find it? I couldn't see it in the top of top.
[07:31] <Linuxpwns> Has anyone heard of "Pwn2Own?"
[07:31] <allu2> Linuxpwns: yeah thats a problem :P maybe chroot can help us :P
[07:31] <Lanlost> If you have the wrong command it will say "Program: no process found." Or that could mean it literally just didn't run
[07:31] <Lanlost> Linux_Time, YES! The same guy I was talking about at work mentioned that to me
[07:31] <jiltdil> rypervence:set higher priority nice value to see in the top of top
[07:31] <Lanlost> Er, Linux_Time is supposed to be Linuxpwns
[07:31] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, usually what I do for my passwords is take a favoride phrase or quote of mine and hash it :P
[07:31] <Linuxpwns> Yeah ahha
[07:32] <mycosys> i presume upgrading from jaunty to karmic is still supported? have to do it to get to lucid
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: ps -ef | grep foo   change foo to part of the script name
[07:32] <Linuxpwns> Linux was never hacked in that contest.
[07:32] <Lanlost> DaPengiun, yes. Isn't that what happens with user passwords anymore by default?
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> !eol | mycosys
[07:32] <Lanlost> As in, inside the passwords file thingy
[07:32] <Linuxpwns> The first OS to get hacked in every year of that contest has been a Mac surprisngly
[07:32] <Linuxpwns> In 2008 a mac laptop was hacked in 5 seconds, and in 2009 in 2 minutes.
[07:32] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, the actual password gets hashed, but the actual cleartext version of my passwords are hashes themselves :P
[07:33] <Lanlost> What version of Ubuntu are we on these days btw? I don't know what the current version is. I'm using Ubuntu Studio, the most recent version I believe.
[07:33] <Linuxpwns> Don't tell mac fanboys that haha
[07:33] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: Also, the most easiest OS to recover files from.
[07:33] <Lanlost> It, like any other distro, has it's annoyances but in general has been pretty rock solid.
[07:33] <red2kic> Lanlost: 10.10 -- 11.04 next month.
[07:33] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, 10.10
[07:33] <toshiba> my fire fox browser is not working correctly for video websites anyone got a answer
[07:33] <Linuxpwns> Macintosh has since patched the vulnerabilit
[07:33] <Wolfsherz> toshiba, define "not working correctly"...
[07:33] <Linuxpwns> red2kic, what os is that?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Lanlost: latest stable is maverick 10.10 next month natty is unleashed 11.04
[07:34] <Lanlost> I'm using it for a a ridiculous reason too. While I used to do audio recording/editing.. I'm using it SPECIFICALLY because, my old TV's speakers broke. So I routed the AUDIO only to my soundcards mic-in. The TV was on my desk with my PC so it worked out fine.
[07:34] <Linuxpwns> I use clonezilla for imaging my computer and regular backups on my 4TB enclosure
[07:34] <red2kic> Linuxpwns: Mac.
[07:35] <Lanlost> The problem was .. the cable was mono on one end and stereo on the other. So.. all my sound came out of my left speaker. This was annoying but REALLY annoying when using headphones. I used jack to mirror the sound from left channel to right.
[07:35] <mycosys> actionparsnip - alredy read the upgrade guide
[07:35] <DaPenguin> nix is inherently more secure as it was designed from the ground up as a multi-user system
[07:35] <mycosys> just wanted some1 to answer my question
[07:35] <mycosys> do you guys know what do-release-upgrade does that synaptic wont? pretty sure do-release-upgrade will break my install in a nasty way... I have a number of repos enabled on jaunty that are a fair way ahead of what is standard on karmic ie mythbuntu weekly builds lol, and winswitch, and deluge, and medibuntu. I have synaptic doing download only atm - so that when it finishes i can chose one or the other. normally use apt-get but synaptic is better at b
[07:35] <ruan> mac has viruses too
[07:35] <Lanlost> The problem was.. Jack had issues with latency, I fixed this.. but then it had issues starting up. I found out about real time kernels.. tried to enable/patch it on mine.. then just installed Ubuntu Studio
[07:36] <mycosys> surely you knew this a few months ago actionparsnip
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: cool. Personally i'd clean install at least lucid, upgrading twice will take a while
[07:36] <Lanlost> The weird thing is.. I get the same result with Ubuntu Studio and it's real time kernel. I swear preformance can be worse overall. With Jack though.. I get this REALLY strange problem. If I started it with RTK support then.. it would run .. but then crash and subsequently the entire system went NUTS.
[07:36] <mycosys> not worried about time
[07:36] <rypervenche> I have a bunch of bash scripts in my home folder, and when I 'ls' my home folder most of the script files have tildas after their names. Some even have a normal copy and one with a tilda after it. I edited them with vim recently. Why do I have these copies? I do not see them when I look at the folder in nautilus...
[07:36] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, my only real issue with ubuntu is how it does the kernel, and the way it handles root access
[07:36] <mycosys> bandwidth from au servers is free too
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: knew what?
[07:36] <mycosys> just want to not break my system
[07:37] <Lanlost> Programs would just start immediately crashing to the point where anytime I opened something it IMMEDIATELY crashed. Then my gnome bars would disappear. Eventually nothing except the calculator would be running
[07:37] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, both of which can be corrected :P
[07:37] <mycosys> the difference between do-release-upgrade, and updating the repos and using dist-upgrade
[07:37] <jrmcm> How do you add repos through synaptic?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: what is "this"?
[07:37] <Lanlost> In general though, with this real time kernel, preformance seems to be worse in general. I get the 'greying out' (I think a feature of compiz) happened quite frequently at first
[07:37] <Linuxpwns> DaPenguin, one of the reasons I attribute to Linux's security barrier is the fact its open source...   open code means it is seen by "many eyes" ... if a bad guy (black hat) finds a vulnerability, so can a good guy (white hat) patch the vulnerability...
[07:38] <toshiba> yes
[07:38] <mycosys> actionparsnip the difference between do-release-upgrade, and updating the repos and using dist-upgrade
[07:38] <mycosys> i have all the repops updated, and synaptic is doing download only as we speak
[07:39] <Lanlost> For a long time I only had a gig of ram, but like 128mb of that was being used by onboard video. Programs would grey out all the time,
[07:39] <mycosys> if i must i can use do-release-upgrade but it will dsable several repos it seems that are already past what karmic had, necessitating uninstalling a lot of stuff
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Jrmcm:copy the ppa address and add that. You can do it in cli with: sudo add-apt-repository address  saves having to dig around in a gui
[07:39] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, and you don't have to wait for a corporate security team to come out with a patch either :)
[07:39] <Lanlost> Then, I got more ram.. and it still happens but much less frequently. The only time it happens semi-frequently is with YouTube, and like I Said.. I never see it grey until it snaps back
[07:40] <Linuxpwns> Good point
[07:40] <mycosys> shold have stayed on 8.04 lol
[07:40] <Lanlost> It's like programs take control of the entire system and it all greys out except that program. You know, now that I think of it.. I wonder if that IS at least PARTIALLY to blame for my flash video issues
[07:40] <Linuxpwns> DaPenguin I gotta admit I'm a big fan of windows server 2008 though...
[07:40] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: thx, synaptic wouldnt let me open the repos menu
[07:40] <eamon> what's the diference between ubuntu and linux mint?
[07:41] <Lanlost> I love(d) Mint
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: yes I know why its different and such but that link details the supported way to get the next release if you are eol
[07:41] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, and i attribute the better security to the fact that ms actually has some competition :)
[07:41] <Lanlost> It's probably even better now. I don't know how I found it but I used it at the "Bea" version the first time.. which pretty much WAS Ubuntu with a different (And better) skin
[07:41] <mycosys> would it kill you to explain actionparsnip?
[07:41] <Lanlost> Eamon, last time I used Mint was probably two years ago. I think it's almost it's own distro these days.
[07:41] <mycosys> happy to have you pm
[07:42] <Seven_Six_Two> performance isn't worse with rt, it's just scheduled differently. and one of the reasons it often fails is that closed source drivers don't allow the kernel to do *all of the scheduling, which causes problems
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Jrmcm: i always use the cli, less messing around
[07:42] <Linuxpwns> mintnanny, mintupdate, mintmenu (the best feature), mintbackup, mintassisstant mostly
[07:42] <red2kic> eamon: Ubuntu is a supported derivative of Debian. Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu.
[07:42] <mycosys> have neen kickin it with linux and beofre it with sV for 20 years now
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: explain what?
[07:42] <Lanlost> But basically, it's sort of like Ubuntu++ for desktop users. They add it's own 'start menu' type thing. It's got it's own applicaton manager. A few other Mint specific things that go on top of Ubuntu.
[07:42] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, yeah, i'm more comfortable with using a cli than digging through menus to find stuff
[07:42] <Seven_Six_Two> using proprietary nvidia, ati drivers etc is bad with rt kernel
[07:42] <rww> Ubuntu is not a supported derivative of Debian :\
[07:42] <Linuxpwns> I have love for Windows though.
[07:42] <mycosys> what apt-get dist-upgrade wont do i suppose
[07:42] <red2kic> Ubuntu++? Oh you jest.
[07:42] <rww> well, it's supported here I guess. but not by Debian ;P
[07:42] <Lanlost> My Mint was rock solid and the first distro that I ever felt ANYONE could use. The problem I always had with it is that it ALWAYS eventually broke when I would upgrade it
[07:43] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: yeah im just learning cli, ive only been running ubuntu for a few months
[07:43] <eamon> Lanlost: sounds like ubuntu to me
[07:43] <Lanlost> Anyone use Kegs, the Apple IIGS Emulator?
[07:43] <mycosys> actionparsnip - as i said, the core of my system, mythtv, is already past what was released on karmic
[07:43] <Lanlost> eamon, in what way? the upgrading problem?
[07:43] <DaPenguin> Lanlost, mint is an ubuntu derivitave designed to be even more user friendly than ubuntu
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: gui is nice for new users but the nature of irc lends itself to cli support
[07:43] <Lanlost> DaPenguin, yes. Isn't that basically what I said?
[07:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Lanlost, I had an Apple IIgs!! after my Apple II+
[07:43] <eamon> Lanlost: yeah
[07:43] <mycosys> i NEED the mythbuntu ppas
[07:43] <user-4> ae
[07:44] <jrmcm> I just installed K/ubuntu to a usb drive, and when i boot from it the system doesnt recognize my wireless or wired connections.
[07:44] <red2kic> "If you have problem with Mint, please don't come here"
[07:44] <red2kic> That advice never worked. :\
[07:44] <user-4> ae
[07:44] <Linuxpwns> You can install the mint menu in Ubuntu. Then bam, Ubuntu + 1 baby
[07:44] <Seven_Six_Two> red2kic, any kind of mint, or just peppermint?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[07:44] <Lanlost> Seven_Six_Two, I realize this is offtopic for this channel, I just wanted to mention that Kegs is an emulator. It's had fullscreen support for Macs but not for Windows or Linux. There is an SDL version that has fullscreen, but it was last updated in 2005. Anyway, I hacked in fullscreen support if anyone wants it.
[07:44] <red2kic> !mint | Seven_Six_Two
[07:44] <mycosys> gawd
[07:44] <red2kic> Seven_Six_Two: Anything that isn't Ubuntu.
[07:45] <Lanlost> Ok, back on topic.
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: ubuntu + guake = bam!
[07:45] <red2kic> ActionParsnip: tilda? :)
[07:45] <xanax`> hello
[07:45] <mycosys> actionparsnip - i guess what i am askin is a way to upgrade WITHOUT disabling my ppas
[07:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Lanlost, have you posted it anywhere? I'd like to see it. I still have books of basic game code that I spent hours typing when I was younger
[07:45] <mycosys> as i said - they are the core of the system
[07:46] <Seven_Six_Two> my cat is not ubuntu. I guess we won't discuss how she smells.
[07:46] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, and sudo lshw -C networking | pastebinit is so much easier and faster than opening up a gui hardware manager and hand pasting it lol
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> red2kic: same difference so also bam :-)
[07:46] <red2kic> BLAM!
[07:46] <xanax`> I am new to linux and I would like gnome to have a bigger screen resolution. It's stuck at 1024x768 but I would like 1680x1050. I have a radeon HD 4800
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> mycosys: not sure there dude, sorry
[07:47] <red2kic> xanax`: That depends on your native monitor resolution. What can it handle in first place?
[07:47] <mycosys> apt-get dist-upgrade wont do it?
[07:47] <xanax`> yes it can
[07:47] <DaPenguin> xanax`, you may need to install fglrx
[07:47] <xanax`> ok, I am going to install it.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: pipe it to xclip and you have gold ;)
[07:47] <rypervenche> I have a bunch of bash scripts in my home folder, and when I 'ls' my home folder most of the script files have tildas after their names. Some even have a normal copy and one with a tilda after it. I edited them with vim recently. Why do I have these copies? I do not see them when I look at the folder in nautilus...
[07:47] <red2kic> xanax`: Check Additional Drivers under System.
[07:47] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, lol
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: i'm that lazy
[07:48] <jrmcm> I just installed K/ubuntu to a usb drive, and when i boot from it the system doesnt recognize my wireless or wired connections.
[07:48] <DaPenguin> lol
[07:49] <Linuxpwns> Seven_Six_Two, in  a little under 3 days, we will be "762" hours away from Ubuntu 11.04 release! :P
[07:49] <jiltdil> using mplayer to play my video that is in dvd doenot works i used this  mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://      the output is http://img696.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img696/5613/screenshot1pi.png
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: run: sudo lshw -C network   use the product line to find guides
[07:49] <xanax`> It seems I already have the proprietary FGLRX ATI/AMD driver
[07:49] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, i actually forgot you could pipe to xclip lol
[07:49] <Linuxpwns> !42
[07:49] <Linuxpwns> YAY its smart
[07:50] <mycosys> :'(
[07:50] <DaPenguin> ok, so ubottu gets to live today it looks like :)
[07:50] <jiltdil>  using mplayer to play my video that is in dvd doenot works i used this  mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/sr0 cdda://      the output is   http://img696.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1pi.png/
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> DaPenguin: why copy manually when the OS can do it for you ;-)
[07:50] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: Thx again
[07:50] <Linuxpwns> +1 to anybody who knows whats thats from
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: np duder
[07:51] <xanax`> does anyone know how to add a screen resolution ?
[07:51] <jrmcm> lol
[07:51] <DaPenguin> ActionParsnip, lol, i think i've found my new favorite pipe :)
[07:51] <rubydude> ubuntu is for douches
[07:52] <rubydude> RubyOS roxorz
[07:52] <rubydude> it's 1337
[07:52] <jamesone> why are notifications SO ANNOYING, you can't close them or anything
[07:52] <Danielcg25> rubydude: Seriously? Stop trolling....
[07:52] <rubydude> and ubuntu ain't
[07:52] <vish> !launguage | rubydude
[07:52] <Seven_Six_Two> jiltdil, why cdda://  ?  that's cd digital audio, no? make sure restricted extras is installed, and you shouldn't need that last bit
[07:52] <rubydude> Danielcg25: I'm not trolling
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Linuxpwns: to understand the answer you must first understand the question
[07:52] <rubydude> I'm serious
[07:52] <vish> !language | rubydude
[07:52] <rubydude> oooooooh whip out your boooooot
[07:52] <jamesone> I don't see rubydude doing anything wrong.
[07:52] <rubydude> I'm so scared
[07:52] <Danielcg25> What's the program for cloning HDDs?
[07:53] <jamesone> Anyways any way to close notifictions?
[07:53] <jamesone> Change them to gnome's superior default at least.. or is this annoying fadeout notifiction Gnome's idea?
[07:53] <rubydude> I'm shaking in my boots
[07:53] <vish> jamesone: " <rubydude> ubuntu is for douches " not acceptable here
[07:53] <jamesone> Did he come here just to say that or did he come here and have that sudden realization
[07:53] <litropy> why is my /etc/xorg.conf empty? Since I currently have an hdtv connected via VGA and displaying at a different resolution than my lappy's screen, the settings must be somewhere ...
[07:54] <vish> rubydude: if you have any support problems just ask, but take your trolling elsewhere
[07:54] <rubydude> litropy: just use Windows
[07:54] <rubydude> so you don't have to deal with that idiocy
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Danielcg25: partimage or dd will do it (ntfs support is weird but pure Linux will be fine)
[07:54] <vish> !ops | rubydude is troll baiting
[07:54] <tsimpson> ummk
[07:54] <Linuxpwns> !What is the answer to life, the universe and everything?
[07:54] <raven> where is the offtopic channel?
[07:54] <red2kic> raven: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <Linuxpwns> whoops
[07:55] <DaPenguin> Linuxpwns, and anyone who doesn't know where that quote comes from can just /leave :P
[07:55] <litropy> I just want to make sure I'm editing the right file
[07:55] <tsimpson> cs mode -q<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:55] <Linuxpwns> hahah ture dapenguin
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> litropy: the OS doesn't ship with xorg.conf but if one is there it will be used
[07:55] <Danielcg25> DaPenguin: It comes from....you? =P
[07:55] <DirtyDawg> Linuxpwns: 42
[07:55] <litropy> ActionParsnip, thank you
[07:56] <jrmcm> Linuxpwns: and the answer is 47
[07:56] <jsoft> 42 acatually
[07:56] <Linuxpwns> Of course the greatest show of all time is Stargate SG-1
[07:56] <mycosys> sg1????????????????////
[07:56] <jrmcm> bah
[07:56] <tsimpson> !offtopic
[07:56] <mycosys> even universe is better
[07:56] <jrmcm> lol oops sorry all
[07:56] <Linuxpwns> Universe was a pos
[07:57] <Seven_Six_Two> rubydude, what's the alternative? ROS isn't an OS. it's a bad website that pitches ROS poorly.
[07:57] <DaPenguin> Seven_Six_Two, a bit late buddy lol
[07:57] <Linuxpwns> The thing that killed SG1 was Richard Dean Anderson's depature.  Not sure what it's for but Windows doesn't work without it
[07:59] <jrmcm> Is anyone here using or a fan of solid state HD
[07:59] <Danielcg25> And I bought a new 1TB drive
[08:00] <Linuxpwns> daniel, its the built-in recovery enviornment that allows you to recover your computer using a system image you made (if you made it)
[08:00] <lars_bauer> got errors when i try to update " http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-proposed/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404  Not Found"
[08:00] <Danielcg25> Linuxpwns: Thanks
[08:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Danielcg25, it could be where it hides all of your private info that it collected. or maybe for a page file?
[08:00] <Danielcg25> lol
[08:01] <Linuxpwns> Daniel, if you ever hit F8 before 7 booted and you seen the "Repair your computer" link... its booted into that 100mb part of your partition
[08:02] <Seven_Six_Two> Danielcg25, if you want to clone, use dd
[08:02] <chetan_> hi all
[08:02] <lars_bauer> #join ubuntu.dk
[08:02] <DirtyDawg>  dd?
[08:02] <jrmcm> What is the syntax for updating the grub menu from the cli
[08:02] <Seven_Six_Two> DirtyDawg, not you! the dd utility
[08:03] <DirtyDawg> yeah lol, i wondered what it was
[08:03] <Linuxpwns> Seven_Six_Two: I use clonezilla are dd and cz similar?
[08:03] <chetan_> Danielcg25: i m using ubuntu 9.10, not getting command for listing contents in root login
[08:03] <DaPenguin> lars_bauer,  its actually /join #channel name
[08:03] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, not sure. probably not. dd is just a byte copy utility. very powerful, not at all automated
[08:04] <jrmcm> What is the syntax for updating the grub menu from the cli. I recently removed a few old headers, but they still show on the boot menu.
[08:04] <rypervenche> How can I have some text display and wait for the person to press enter (or any key) before moving on?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Jrmcm: sudo update-grub
[08:04] <chetan_>  i m using ubuntu 9.10, not getting command for listing contents in root login
[08:05] <Seven_Six_Two> Linuxpwns, dd can do a lot of things besides backing up and cloning. I used it just today to copy an exact number of bytes from a dvd piped in to md5sum to ensure an iso burned properly
[08:05] <jrmcm> Action: thx yet again, lol i tried every other way of putting it,
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: i believe it's: read
[08:05] <Linuxpwns> Nice
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: you can also use it to get input: INPUTNAME=read   do a quick websearch to verify ;-)
[08:07] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: Ok, thank you.
[08:08] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: Its still showing 2.6.32-27 32-28 and 32-29. I'm pretty sure I removed them via synaptic. Suggestions?
[08:09] <Seven_Six_Two> jrmcm, headers don't show in grub
[08:09] <Seven_Six_Two> jrmcm, headers are used to compile kernel modules. the kernel is what grub lists, and removing one should cause grub to update automagically
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.32-27-generic
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm: and so on. Update grub will be done automagically
[08:11] <Linuxpwns> Grub.... YOU GOT WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEEEEED
[08:11] <EOF-sensei> how does one build the chromium-browser package?
[08:11] <borillion> Guys Im having some trouble installing Geda, it compiles fine and then when I launch some of the apps its complaining that it can't find PCB, does anyone have any idea?
[08:11] <EOF-sensei> the build tools are not clearly indicates
[08:11] <rypervenche> Why are there tildas after my script names when I ls, but not when I look in nautilus?
[08:12] <jrmcm> Action and Seven: love automagically. :)
[08:12] <EOF-sensei> LO
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> EOF-sensei: there is a daily build ppa if you wish
[08:12] <EOF-sensei> ActionParsnip: I wish to build it myself
[08:12] <EOF-sensei> I know I have enough time
[08:12] <Seven_Six_Two> rypervenche, those files are probably opened in an editor
[08:12] <EOF-sensei> but the source package doesn't have a build script of any sort
[08:13] <borillion> look for a make file?
[08:13] <nesuno> Hi! I'm using ubuntu 10.10, and aptitude upgrade says a warning: "untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed". Should I let the install, or there is something going on?
[08:13] <Seven_Six_Two> rypervenche, or possibly backups from an editor like emacs if there are duplicates (with and without ~)
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> EOF-sensei: that's fine. You'll need to install the build deps as well as build-essential
[08:13] <RobotCow> How do I change firefox to use another language other than the ugly E without changing all my apps?
[08:13] <RubenAlonzo> hi all, i installed "MacBuntu" theme, looks like mac osx, i was wondering if there was a way to lose or hide the task bar with all the icons that is constant on the left with all the icons?
[08:13] <rypervenche> Seven_Six_Two: I edited them with vim, yes.  You won't die if they do..
[08:15] <EOF-sensei> ActionParsnip: where is the package information
[08:15] <EOF-sensei> the build deps are nowhere to be found in list
[08:15] <Seven_Six_Two> RobotCow, did you know that they can track you with the javascript "share on fb" icon on other sites? even when you aren't logged in
[08:16] <EOF-sensei> w'ev
[08:16] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: My grub menu looks so much better now. Its not a page a a half long :)
[08:16] <EOF-sensei> I'll run this automagicalle scripte :P
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> EOF-sensei: there is a command to get build deps but i can't recall it due to no sleep
[08:16] <jrmcm> Seven_six_two: My grub menu looks so much better now. Its not a page a a half long :)
[08:17] <EOF-sensei> I don't like that one of the build dependencies of a browser is apache
[08:17] <op> how to list file in root
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Jrmcm: you also get back ~120mb per kernel
[08:17] <jrmcm> op: ls
[08:17] <Seven_Six_Two> op, meaning what? in the root of your filesystem?
[08:17] <EOF-sensei> along with outdated libcurl dev libraries
[08:17] <jrmcm> ls /
[08:17] <Seven_Six_Two> ls /
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> find /    will list EVERY file :-)
[08:19] <MatBoy> someone using the cloud version here ?
[08:19] <froes> hi guys .. i am having some problems with my latest install ... the boot gets me to a grub shell... i load the config file and i am able to boot. how can i make it load automatically ?
[08:20] <Seven_Six_Two> MatBoy, iirc that's not until 11.10 or something like that.
[08:20] <DaPenguin> froes, you could try sudo update-grub and see if that fixes the issue
[08:20] <jiltdil> how to open a video in termainl using vlc?
[08:20] <murphylan> hi
[08:20] <Huck> I have asked questions about sound juicer here on several occasions with no reply, is this the correct place to ask ?
[08:20] <froes> DaPenguin, have done that but still the same
[08:20] <llutz> jiltdil: vlc /path/to/video
[08:20] <murphylan> I can not install mysql-server on ubuntu10.4
[08:20] <murphylan> who can help me
[08:20] <froes> DaPenguin, done update-grub2
[08:21] <MatBoy> Seven_Six_Two: 10.10 server shows me the option during install
[08:21] <bazhang> Huck, whats the question
[08:21] <murphylan> I execute apt-get install mysql-server
[08:21] <RobotCow> mulicheng -> i can
[08:21] <DaPenguin> froes, hmm, did tou check grub.cfg to make sure the uuids were accurate?
[08:21] <EOF-sensei> murphylan: pastebin the output
[08:21] <froes> DaPenguin, yeap ...
[08:21] <RobotCow> mulicheng -> i have a mysql server running and working
[08:21] <jiltdil> llutz; is it play video in terminal or outside terminal
[08:21] <bazhang> RobotCow, you mean murphylan
[08:22] <Seven_Six_Two> Huck, not really. it's not ubuntu specific
[08:22] <froes> DaPenguin, and it boots once i have loaded the cfg file
[08:22] <llutz> jiltdil: it starts vlc, running outside terminal
[08:22] <murphylan> RobotCow: can you help me, what is means?
[08:22] <DaPenguin> froes, hmm, so it's not seeing the config on initial bootup
[08:22] <RobotCow> murphylan -> I can help
[08:22] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, sure it is, it s in the repos
[08:22] <RobotCow> murphylan -> what's your native language?
[08:22] <Huck> when I drag an audio file to a a folder, it is almost twice the size of the wave file created by juicer,
[08:22] <murphylan> english
[08:22] <jiltdil> llutz: is there any way to play it under termainl
[08:22] <froes> DaPenguin, using bootcfg (hd0 .....
[08:22] <froes> DaPenguin, thats what i think
[08:22] <murphylan> RobotCow:
[08:22] <RobotCow> murphylan -> no, it's not english.
[08:23] <RobotCow> murphylan -> what is it?
[08:23] <EOF-sensei> :S
[08:23] <llutz> jiltdil: console (tty1..tty6) you mean?  using framebuffer it should be possible
[08:23] <bazhang> Huck, what is the end goal here? rip cds and get mp3? something other? please clarify
[08:23] <MatBoy> but what I wanted to know... this way of "clouding" is free, so not like landscape ?
[08:23] <murphylan> RobotCow: I don't see your means.
[08:23] <jiltdil> llutz:how to do this
[08:23] <EOF-sensei> >.<
[08:23] <bazhang> MatBoy, clouding what
[08:23] <RobotCow> murphylan -> what's your first language?
[08:23] <bazhang> EOF-sensei, please stop that
[08:23] <DaPenguin> froes, hmm, may want to check the grub.cfg to make sure it's looking at the right partition for it
[08:23] <llutz> jiltdil: idk, i never done that
[08:24] <murphylan> Chinese
[08:24] <murphylan> RobotCow: chinese
[08:24] <RobotCow> murphylan -> oh, nevermind. I don't speak that one.
[08:24] <Huck> I want the highest quality audio I can get stored on HD for playing into an audiophile system
[08:24] <RobotCow> murphylan -> but i can help with mysql
[08:24] <jiltdil> llutz:thanx for giving idea i will try
[08:24] <murphylan> RobotCow: let go
[08:24] <bazhang> Huck, you want FLAC?
[08:24] <MatBoy> bazhang: installing a cloud using ubuntu
[08:25] <EOF-sensei> murphylan: try $sudo apt-get update
[08:25] <bazhang> MatBoy, please clarify how you want to do that
[08:25] <llutz> Huck: you want vinyl, nothing digital
[08:25] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, i had to restart X to get my monitor changes to take effect, i didnt come back here afterwards cause its working correctly now, thanks for helping out
[08:25] <Huck> mp3's are too lossy, as are ogg, waves from a cd are twice the size and flack are about the same as a lossless wave riped from juicer
[08:25] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, np!
[08:26] <EOF-sensei> then $sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:26] <EOF-sensei> this will ensure that the current versions of other packages are not withholding the version of mysql in the repositories
[08:26] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, i got a folow up question now though lol, when i right click an application on the taskbar theres a "move to another workstation" option, how can a move something to another X session?
[08:26] <Seven_Six_Two> bazhang, I read the cloud page too fast! It says "Eucalyptus is the technology at the core of UEC – and will be in Ubuntu 11.04"
[08:26] <MatBoy> bazhang: ubuntu server has a cloud function. so you can install using 2 dedicated servers a small cloud. I wonder if there are any costs about it like you have with landscape when you want to manage your servers
[08:26] <Seven_Six_Two> bazhang, "as it has been since 9.04"   oops!
[08:27] <Huck> llutz , I am an eng, any old dual amp tubes using matched tubes are a thing of the past, also, try to get a real stylis for any good cartrige any longer.
[08:28] <MatBoy> Seven_Six_Two: yes so the question is if we have to pay for Euxalyptus
[08:28] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, well, I haven't done separate x screens, but I've looked into moving running processes, and the general consensus is that you can't do it for a variety of reasons. some of them being memory allocation done by the process when it started
[08:29] <bazhang> MatBoy, I'd ask in #ubuntu-cloud
[08:29] <RocketLauncher> koalas eat Eucalyptus.
[08:29] <MatBoy> nixjr: why other x session ? you have mutliple desktops
[08:29] <MatBoy> bazhang: :)
[08:29] <nixjr> MatBoy, yes
[08:29] <froes> DaPenguin, if you are talking about each menu entry yes
[08:29] <froes> DaPenguin, as i said, it boots perfectly, it just seems that it is not searching for any file
[08:29] <froes> DaPenguin, like it was the grub rescueCD
[08:29] <viktoras> twager: i don't care that you can't
[08:29] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, because separate x screens means separate x sessions
[08:29] <MatBoy> bazhang: only me in there :P
[08:30] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, you can probably tell im very new to ubuntu so thanks for just giving it to me a nutshell and not sending me down some complex path
[08:30] <bazhang> MatBoy, there are 51 users in there : #ubuntu-cloud
[08:30] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, that's what I read when I was trying to make dual head big desktop
[08:30] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: I enabled main, universe, restricted, multiverse, and from other: third party software (it is extras.ubuntu.com). I didn't bothered with keys, and it worked yet.
[08:31] <Seven_Six_Two> nixjr, feel free to search though, and if you figure out how to move a running process, tell me! I'd love to know
[08:31] <twager> viktoras: can't ?
[08:31] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, no other ppa's or third party repos, like google?
[08:31] <froes> do anyone knows how to reinstall grub inside the mbr ?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> froes: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[08:32] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: no. All the reops ends with ....ubuntu.com.
[08:32] <nixjr> Seven_Six_Two, i managed to fix my own problem before by editing xorg.conf and swapping monitor0 and monitor1 around, that was scary enough, i dont think ill look too deeply into moving running processes
[08:32] <Jordan_U> froes: That will not only run grub-install (and update-grub) but prompt you for what devices should be installed to on future upgrades.
[08:32] <MatBoy> bazhang: oh ? mhh
[08:33] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, it might be because if extras. that's just a warning because you don't have the keys installed. the install should still work fine, but you're more at risk
[08:33] <froes> have tried installing grub by doing a grub-install /dev/sda but it gives me no menu i have to load manually the file
[08:33] <MatBoy> bazhang: not in @ubuntu-cloud... oops!
[08:33] <Jordan_U> froes: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[08:33] <Seven_Six_Two> froes, what file are you loading?
[08:33] <jrmcm> ActionParsnip: lshw -C network mean list network hardware?
[08:34] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: I have keys for ubuntu extras. It is listed as "Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key".
[08:35] <red2kic> jrmcm: lshw (list hardware); -C network just grab the network class (information under network)
[08:35] <Kimmen> hello, any1 good with tmux and scripting? I'm trying to make a script that autostarts irssi and adds the nicklist in a split window
[08:35] <Kimmen> in tmux
[08:35] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, that's the one...hmmm...can you see what repository the software came from?
[08:35] <jrmcm> red2kic: ok yeah thats what i thought, and what it seemed to output, thx
[08:37] <jrmcm> In xchat can i auto ident my nick?
[08:37] <Kimmen> q
[08:37] <froes> Jordan_U, yes
[08:37] <froes> Jordan_U, got about 4 in there
[08:37] <Jordan_U> froes: Most likely you are not booting from sda.
[08:38] <Jordan_U> froes: (in the BIOS)
[08:39] <Jordan_U> froes: You can always choose to install grub to all drives so it doesn't matter what the boot order is. If you do that though be sure to use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to be sure that they will all also get properly upgraded.
[08:40] <Seven_Six_Two> must sleep now. night all.
[08:40] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: There was something with the Hungarian mirror.  Now I switched to the main site, and it works (keys are also ).
[08:41] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: keys are also ok, no warning.
[08:41] <viktoras> twager: i don't care that you can't
[08:41] <nesuno> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks the help!
[08:41] <Seven_Six_Two> nesuno, then they did their job!
[08:41] <jiltdil> llutz: to play video under terminal i found this but this is not working fine see and help please sudo mplayer -vo svga -ao sdl movie.avi
[08:41] <Seven_Six_Two> np
[08:41] <bazhang> viktoras, pardon?
[08:41] <viktoras> bazhang: ?
[08:42] <aslan> hi, i work in hospital and we have almost 150 client, we try to use Active Directory Domain Controller, but if we do this, we will have so much money to pay for licence. i want to install computers ubuntu. our hospital software works in linux. and i want to make something like windows Active Directory system, i hear about openldap and pfsense. i take a look of them and these are so confused for me. does anyone suggest me a good software same active directory ?
[08:42] <aslan> but i want software that can be controlled with a good user interface. thanks.
[08:42] <pie_> is it just me or does ubutu suck at hibernating?
[08:42] <bazhang> viktoras, twager is not even in the channel; what are you talking about
[08:42] <viktoras> he will be
[08:42] <bazhang> viktoras, saying I dont care is not helpful
[08:44] <viktoras> bazhang: what do i get for the help?
[08:44] <daniel3> What desktop environment does Ubuntu or Netbooks run?
[08:44] <bazhang> viktoras, if you wish to help be helpful; chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:44] <daniel3> Is it like a modified Gnome or something
[08:44] <DaPenguin> not sure, probably gnome
[08:44] <viktoras> daniel3: gnome
[08:44] <bazhang> daniel3, unity?
[08:44] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, do you just want to let people log on and have certain groups allowed to access specific files and directories, while other groups have different access?
[08:44] <viktoras> the last version of it
[08:45] <austinium> hi, iam trying to install ubuntu 10.04 using the minimal cd mini.iso
[08:45] <bazhang> viktoras, thats not so
[08:45] <viktoras> yes it is
[08:45] <austinium> i need lightweight GNOME desktop
[08:45] <daniel3> ah yeah it is Unity.
[08:45] <austinium> with just firefox in it
[08:45] <aslan> Seven_Six_Two: yes this is how u say i want truly
[08:45] <austinium> and gdm (for logins)
[08:45] <austinium> anyone here done something similar before?
[08:46] <Kimmen> austinium: just install gnome core
[08:46] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, that's already built in to linux permissions. you have owner permissions, group permissions, and world permissions. files and directories can be attached to groups, and you also attach users to groups, giving them those permissions.
[08:46] <Jemt> Hello follow Ubuntuers. Does Ubuntu contain a package with additional WiFi drivers? I'm remastering Ubuntu, and would like to ensure the best possible support for wireless network adapters
[08:47] <austinium> Kimmen: ok, whats in it?
[08:47] <bazhang> Jemt, the linux-backports-modules
[08:47] <Kimmen> austinium: core gnome, so you can run gnome
[08:47] <bazhang> Jemt, err linux-backports-wireless-modules
[08:47] <aslan> Seven_Six_Two: i am newbie at linux , i start to use last 1 month, you say i can manage all stuff you say in linux, without a software ? and can be controller from an admin ?
[08:47] <Jemt> bazhang: Is sounds like a whole lot of packages (?)
[08:47] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, if you want to have one pc's partition available on other pc's, just export them with nfs
[08:48] <Jemt> bazhang: Oh, that makes sense :)
[08:48] <Kimmen> austinium: no eye candy or extras
[08:48] <Jemt> bazhang: Thanks a lot - I'll look into it :)
[08:48] <red2kic> aslan: You probably want to try asking in #ubuntu-server too
[08:48] <froes_> Jordan_U, thanks ... the reconfigure worked perfectly
[08:48] <austinium> iam trying to avoid stuff like plymouth, evolution etc
[08:48] <Jordan_U> froes_: You're welcome.
[08:49] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, if you're root, you have all of the control. when you do    ls -l    in the terminal, you see the permissions as groups of letters...for example   drwxrwxrwx
[08:49] <incorrect> i read somewhere that unity was going to be the default desktop of 11.04?
[08:49] <aslan> red2kic: Seven_Six_Two : thank you very much i will take a look of ubuntu-server channel
[08:50] <jrib> !natty | incorrect
[08:50] <austinium> ok, its a ~94mb download - gnome-core
[08:50] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, the first character is the type of entry. d is directory. c is character device.   then the next 9 are read,write,execute  for user,group,worls
[08:50] <Seven_Six_Two> world
[08:50] <heyguise> ha
[08:50] <heyguise> finally
[08:50] <varun> hi
[08:50] <heyguise> if the dude who pointed mt to joy2pad is still here, thanks
[08:51] <heyguise> hi varun
[08:51] <Shuujin96> is 11.04 out already?
[08:51] <aslan> Seven_Six_Two: thank you, because of i am newbie, i thought it would be better with a good software GUI  , but i will take ur advice.
[08:51] <froes_> but now guys i have a new problem ... everything is mounted perfectly, but one my harddrives, that can be mounted and acessed, shows as unpartitioned space on gparted. what can it be ? what should i do ?
[08:52] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, try to master the command line. if you have to admin, there's nothing worse than being stuck in a gui that doesn't work, doesn't do what you want. etc
[08:52] <austinium> installing gnome-core+gdm should get the user to a GUI login screen at bootup right?
[08:52] <aslan> Seven_Six_Two: thank you very much.
[08:52] <Seven_Six_Two> aslan, check out  http://www.tldp.org
[08:52] <Seven_Six_Two> np
[08:52] <austinium> Kimmen:installing gnome-core+gdm should get the user to a GUI login screen at bootup right?
[08:53] <bonjoyee> austinium: you also need xorg-server
[08:53] <varun> ubuntu natty server please
[08:53] <Kimmen> austinium: it should yes
[08:54] <austinium> bonjoyee:its is pulling in quite a few xserver-xorg related packages as dependencies
[08:54] <varun> hi friends,how to join ubuntu natty server
[08:55] <bazhang> varun, /j #ubuntu+1
[08:55] <bonjoyee> austinium: building from a minimal iso?
[08:55] <austinium> bonjoyee:yes
[08:55] <bonjoyee> austinium: ok..
[08:55] <austinium> varun: what do you mean by join?
[08:58] <Shuujin96> hardware driver. is a major problem in ubuntu, and other linuxes right? how to install the driver in ubuntu?
[08:58] <DaPenguin> Shuujin96, what driver?
[08:59] <Shuujin96> well, VGA, sound?
[08:59] <VEndix> is this a spamming channel?
[08:59] <VEndix> go there go there
[08:59] <bazhang> VEndix, no
[08:59] <DaPenguin> Shuujin96, the basic drivers should be installed by default
[08:59] <VEndix> so don't go anywhere
[08:59] <VEndix> this is the official ubuntu help channel
[09:00] <DaPenguin> Shuujin96, if you want the proprietary binary ones you can install them via the restricted-drivers installer
[09:01] <bazhang> Shuujin96, system --> administration --> additional drivers
[09:03] <Shuujin96> okay, thanks for the answers.. that seems easy just like device manager..:D
[09:04] <Shuujin96> on win..
[09:06] <vlado_> anyone know why cant browse/copy share folders on lan (only to preview)?
[09:06] <oasisTopher> Hello, I have ubuntu 10.04 and whenever I run sudo shutdown now from the command line it freezes, have to manually hit the power switch.  however sudo reboot now works!
[09:07] <bonjoyee> oasisTopher: tried "sudo shutdown -h now"?
[09:07] <llutz> oasisTopher: try "suddo halt"
[09:07] <llutz> sudo*
[09:07] <bonjoyee> oasisTopher: for reboot try sudo shutdown -r now
[09:07] <austinium> vlado_:open nautilus
[09:07] <oasisTopher> yeah I don't want to reboot, I want to shut  down.  so halt will be graceful?
[09:08] <n_ak> sudo poweroff maybe?
[09:08] <austinium> vlado_:click Go>Loacation...then type sftp
[09:08] <Perinola> hello all
[09:08] <Perinola> hello Alma
[09:09] <austinium> vlado_:http://postneo.com/2005/02/26/when-things-just-work-nautilus-and-sftp
[09:09] <varun> hi,i am unable to install simple compizconfig in ubuntu 11.04
[09:09] <varun> help please
[09:09] <red2kic> n_ak:poweroff --> halt
[09:09] <jrib> !natty | varun
[09:10] <curiousx> hi all =)
[09:10] <devilchaos> hi guys ive committed the cardinal sin and changed my root passwd and forgot it doh is there anyway i can try and change it or jog my memory some how?
[09:10] <AlmaNegra> hello perinola
[09:11] <austinium> bonjoyee & Kimmen: gnome-core + GDM installed, it pulled in plymouth from the repos...iam having a look at what else has been installed ;)
[09:11] <jrib> devilchaos: do you want to return ubuntu to its original state where there is no root password?  Or do you want to set a new root password?
[09:11] <oasisTopher> llutz  red2kic should I halt -f?
[09:12] <oasisTopher> llutz  red2kic should I halt -f?
[09:12] <red2kic> oasisTopher: Try halt if you haven't. If that doesn't work, well, try -f. I don't really know.
[09:12] <devilchaos> just need it changed which ever is easiest need to remove a few linux images from boot part as im low on space there ?!
[09:12] <llutz> oasisTopher: try "sudo halt"   before forcing something
[09:13] <jrib> devilchaos: well your first account can still sudo.  You can set a new password for root the same way you did it originally using sudo.  If you want to re-disable the root account, then you can do: sudo usermod -p '!' root
[09:13] <devilchaos> i love freenode.com
[09:14] <hjr778> hello
[09:14] <cyclist_2> Hello, there! is anyone here familiar with the application 'gpgdir'? It works well, until I add a file to an already encrypted directory; upon running the command 'gpgdir -O --skip-test --encrypt /this/directory' I get the following error messages: '[GNUPG:] BAD_PASSPHRASE' and '[*] Bad passphrase, try gpgdir with -v at /usr/bin/gpgdir line 624.'; now, if I decrypt the directory, add the new file to it and then encrypt it again, it works as
[09:14] <oasisTopher> thank you, goin now
[09:14] <devilchaos> cool jrib thanks
[09:15] <jrib> cyclist_2: I don't think I will be able to help you, but your message was truncated at "it works as"
[09:15] <hjr778> anybody can speak chinese?
[09:15] <jrib> !cn | hjr778
[09:15] <jrib> :/
[09:16] <cyclist_2> jrib: ...add the new file to it and then encrypt it again, it works as before, but I believe it should also work the way I am trying to do it; or not...?
[09:16] <hjr778> i am a fresh man
[09:16] <jrib> cyclist_2: I have no experience with gpgdir
[09:16] <jiltdil> framebuffer drivers for ubuntu?
[09:16] <hjr778> this is the first time to use linux os
[09:16] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:16] <jiltdil> is ubuntu uses idk as framebuffer
[09:16] <llutz> jiltdil: "idk" == i don't know
[09:17] <devilchaos> wow no pastes still rule in here?
[09:17] <jiltdil> llutz:ok please tell me which drivers it used as framebuffer
[09:17] <devilchaos> oops nootifications still on duh
[09:17] <llutz> jiltdil: "idk" == i don't know   <- it has a i reason i wrote that, i really don't know, i don't care about video/framebuffer and all that stuff
[09:18] <devilchaos> vesa is a default driver that used fb mode
[09:18] <VE2EBP> guys, what app should I run as server for VNC remote desktop viewer?
[09:18] <devilchaos> im lead to belive
[09:18] <jrib> !vnc | VE2EBP
[09:19] <VE2EBP> jrib I need something so that when I'm across the country, I can see my computer remotely
[09:20] <mycosys> ve2ebp try window switch
[09:20] <rfv> hello...:)
[09:20] <VE2EBP> mycosys is this an app?
[09:20] <jiltdil> devilchaos:thanx
[09:20] <mycosys> yup
[09:20] <VE2EBP> ok
[09:21] <VE2EBP> Where can I get this mycosys
[09:21] <mycosys> winswitch.org
[09:21] <VE2EBP> great thanks mycosys
[09:21] <mycosys> there is a ppa for ubunty, i think maverick it is in the distro?
[09:21] <rfv> i just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on a 1280*800 max res screen, and even after updating Ubuntu and the specific hardware..i am still stuck to 800*600
[09:21] <mycosys> has a choice of connection methods
[09:21] <rfv> all the dpkg-reconf and xorg stuff open balnk files
[09:22] <rfv> help ?..:)
[09:22] <amalgama> when i double click a .zip or .rar file, it is mounted as, lets say, a hard drive.. is that normal behavour??
[09:22] <mycosys> what video are you using rfv?
[09:22] <amalgama> *behaviour
[09:22] <maystreet> Hi, my I've just noticed my disk usage is a 97%, is there an easy way to track down the files taking up so much space?
[09:23] <rfv> sis
[09:23] <mycosys> ouch
[09:23] <jrib> maystreet: Disk Usage Analyzer in your Accessories menu
[09:23] <maystreet> jrib: no gui
[09:23] <cyclist_2> jrib: thank you, all the same.
[09:23] <mycosys> could try restricted hardware drivers
[09:23] <rfv> where is that ?
[09:23] <mycosys> in the settings menu iirc
[09:23] <mycosys> or system
[09:23] <jrib> maystreet: use du and find then
[09:24] <mylisto> can anyone recommend a data scraping program for linux?
[09:24] <shruggar> since upgrading to 10.04, my windows keep becoming "stuck" so that they are always under other windows. When this happens, the gnome-panel often turns invisible. Usually this is corrected by hitting alt+f2 and typing "metacity --replace" or "compiz --replace", but the solution is often very temporary, sometimes failing again as soon as I switch to another window.   Any ideas?
[09:24] <maystreet> jrib: I am but du is not giving the kind of definition I'm hoping for. Is there a command line tool that can make a baobab style image and export it as a png or the like?
[09:25] <devilchaos> Wicked a Wicked a Jungle is Massifffffffffffffff!!!!
[09:25] <devilchaos> thanks jrib worked a treat
[09:25] <rfv> chececk the update settings and no "restricted hardware drivers"
[09:25] <rfv> what is iirc ?
[09:26] <mycosys> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man4/sis.4.html rfv
[09:26] <mycosys> iirc = if i remember correctly
[09:26] <mycosys> gtg
[09:26] <devilchaos> good to go
[09:27] <devilchaos> ttfn lol
[09:27] <devilchaos> ;oP
[09:28] <rfv> ok thanks mycosys..:)
[09:28] <chanti> need help for install kde in ubuntu 10.4
[09:28] <ouyes> what is your problem when installing?
[09:29] <chanti> ouyes, some error occur, whilie intalling
[09:30] <Laurenceb> is there a way to connect to bluetooth serial modules without sudo?
[09:30] <Laurenceb> sudo rfcomm --raw connect 4  <--better than that?
[09:30] <chanti> ouyes,kde:
[09:30] <chanti>  Depends: kde-core (>=5:48ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[09:30] <santh> camera
[09:30] <ouyes> paste the errors to paste.com
[09:30] <jrib> maystreet: I do not know of such a program.  What isn't du doing that you want it to do?
[09:30] <VCoolio> maystreet: maybe you like discus http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/discus.htm
[09:30] <chanti> ouyes: ok
[09:31] <santh> how to make the built in camera work
[09:31] <ouyes> chanti, what system are you runing now?
[09:31] <santh> can someone help me out
[09:31] <ouyes> chanti, open a terminal and run uname -ra
[09:31] <chanti> ouyes, dell inspiron
[09:31] <VCoolio> maystreet: here's a list of tools that look nice http://www.ubuntugeek.com/hard-disk-usage-and-availability-report-tools.html
[09:32] <maystreet> jrib: hey sorry it keeps looking at hidden files (don't need it to do) and then going deep into directories hiding the total size of a directory making it really tricky to drill down
[09:32] <maystreet> VCoolio: cheers
[09:33] <chanti> ouyes,Linux sasi 2.6.32-30-generic #59-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 1 21:30:21 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:33]  * uLuBeY : Hello
[09:33] <jrib> maystreet: I would do something like: du -sh */  Find a big target, then move inside
[09:33] <ouyes> chanti, how do you install kde?
[09:33] <maystreet> jrib: neat, shall try
[09:34] <chanti> ouyes, through synaptic package manager
[09:35] <jrib> maystreet: if you're in a place with lots of output, you can drop the -h and then pass to pipe to sort -n to make it a little easier to find the larger directories
[09:35] <ouyes> chanti, you like kde or you want a try?
[09:35] <chanti> ouyes, yes
[09:35] <maystreet> jrib: oh didn't think of that, but it makes sense. Thanks!
[09:35] <quiescens> maystreet: what's wrong with boabab itself?
[09:35] <jrib> maystreet: the other approach is to just look for big files.  You could use find for that (it has some sort of size argument)
[09:35] <quiescens> er
[09:35] <quiescens> baobab
[09:35] <maystreet> quiescens: the computer has no gui (and hence no gnome)
[09:35] <chanti> ouyes, now i am tying apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <ouyes> chanti, how does it go?
[09:36] <maystreet> jrib: yep, I just have a sneaky feeling some idiot has gone and copied a massive directory over and over again somewhere else
[09:36] <chanti> ouyes, installing is going on
[09:37] <quiescens> maystreet: ah
[09:37] <chanti> ouyes, one doubt; after intalling kubuntu, can i use gnome again
[09:37] <ruan> chanti: yes, switch back to ubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <quiescens> maystreet: i would probably try something like ncdu
[09:37] <ouyes> chanti, there are three ways to install a package in ubuntu at least,  apt-get install, software center and synaptic manager
[09:38] <chanti> ruan, thank you
[09:38] <maystreet> quiescens: looks neat, shall gave it a bash. Thanks!
[09:38] <extra11> ouyes no apitude?
[09:39] <ouyes> extra11, I use sudo
[09:39] <chanti> ouyes, what is the difference among them, i would like to know
[09:39] <ruan> at the login screen, switch to whichever desktop envir. you want
[09:39] <jiltdil> which framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?
[09:40] <chanti> ruan, thanks again. great guidance
[09:40] <ouyes> chanti, depend on what you are prefer,
[09:40] <chanti> ouyes, thank you , i will try
[09:41] <ouyes> chanti, actually, I am a newbie here, although I have been running ubuntu since 8.04
[09:42] <famthegeek> wmware or virtualbox for ubuntu 10.04 LST?
[09:42] <chanti> ouyes, i am little bit junior to you, i have been running 8.10
[09:42] <ruan> famthegeek: virtualbox has more popularity among linux users
[09:43] <jiltdil> which framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?
[09:43] <chanti> ouyes, ruan, why should not we install through synaptic package manager in 10.4
[09:44] <zxiest> What command should I use to get info about my os?
[09:44] <oCean> zxiest: what info?
[09:44] <zxiest> oCean version, memory usage.. etc
[09:45] <zxiest> basic info
[09:45] <ouyes> chanti, maybe synaptic is less smart than apt-get install
[09:45] <jiltdil> zxiest:lsb_release -a    free -m
[09:45] <oCean> zxiest: there is a lot. lsb_release -a will show version info
[09:45] <oCean> zxiest: you can use 'top' for running processes and their resource usage
[09:45] <zxiest> cool :-)
[09:45] <ouyes> chanti, there are some dependencies for a particular package,
[09:45] <zxiest> Thanks
[09:46] <zxiest> Darn.. I have 8.10 ..
[09:46] <zxiest> This is too old, right?
[09:46] <oCean> zxiest: commands as 'vmstat 1' shows info on memory usage
[09:46] <chanti> ouyes, ofcouse i agree with you,
[09:46] <oCean> !8.10 | zxiest
[09:46] <zxiest> Hmmm..
[09:47] <zxiest> Let's get another one :-)
[09:47] <zxiest> Thanks !
[09:47] <chanti> ouyes , any way let me try once kde, i am going to log off , thanks a lot
[09:47] <ouyes> chanti, you are welcom
[09:48] <jiltdil> which framebuffer drivers does ubuntu uses?
[09:48] <asiekierka> hi
[09:48] <asiekierka> my DSi requires me to use AAC
[09:48] <asiekierka> but i can't get faac to work
[09:48] <asiekierka> on my test .WAV file (made by decoding a .MP3 with lame)