[09:27] <commoner> JessicaFL, nope.. and then you can switch between the two sessions with ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[09:27] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, rather than doing that - create a test user
[09:27] <lehaid> hi
[09:27] <cables> !patience > _apelsinchoklad_
[09:27] <JessicaFL> great! i'm going to try it out.  thanks commoner and unop for your help!
[09:27] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, whats chipset on your network card ?
[09:27] <lehaid> i've connected an USB 4-in-1 card reader, and it doesn't show up, how do i know what to do ?
[09:27] <Nomad_O_North> ompaul:Huh?
[09:28] <gapagos> hey when i tried to boot from the Ubuntu 6.10 installation CD it freeses about 20 secs after loading the kernel ... i have 6.06 installed already though
[09:28] <pbureau> lehaid, put a card in
[09:28] <lehaid> i dont even see it in "lsusb".....
[09:28] <lehaid> pbureau, i did
[09:28] <gapagos> i dont want to upgrade i want to have both versions on seperate partitions
[09:28] <lehaid> and the leds are on
[09:28] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, as one users personal settings do not influence anothers - so you can break all you want
[09:28] <pbureau> lehaid, do lsusb does it report the card reader there ?
[09:28] <Nomad_O_North> I need to be able to write the contents of my applications menu to a cd-wr.
[09:28] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: chipset??
[09:28] <lehaid> pbureau,  nop
[09:29] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, type lspci |grep Network whats does it report
[09:29] <illriginal> The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder
[09:29] <lehaid> maybe the usb hub isn't recgoznied in linux ?
[09:29] <illriginal> ^ have that
[09:29] <mamonassassina> hi,is a .bin file "mountable"?
[09:29] <pbureau> lehaid, so all 0000 in there ?
[09:29] <gapagos> can anyone help me? why does 6.10 freezes on its 1st boot from the CD? It works in 6.06
[09:29] <Flannel> illriginal: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:29] <lehaid> pbureau, no.. other usb (in back) are there
[09:29] <illriginal> Edgy eft
[09:29] <lehaid> i'm trying toc onnect it on front
[09:29] <mamonassassina> lehaid: this is how my card reader worked...
[09:29] <mamonassassina> lehaid: connect it in other usb port.
[09:29] <pbureau> lehaid, try plugin the usb card reader into the pc directly and check lsusb again
[09:29] <CrakeHunter> hello! how can i make beryl make boot automatically at startup?
[09:30] <gapagos> help anyone plz
[09:30] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureu: dont now.. i'm kind a begginer.. not so good at computers/linux
[09:30] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: go to system,administration...
[09:30] <Nomad_O_North> So, the contents of my applications menu will be in my personal settings...?
[09:30] <lehaid> can't access the back ports
[09:30] <lehaid> it's hard
[09:30] <lehaid> blah..
[09:30] <lehaid> sec
[09:30] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, type --> lspci |grep Network <--whats does it report
[09:30] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: hm...hold on haha
[09:30] <CrakeHunter> heh ;)
[09:30] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: i know its system,administration.
[09:30] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: but i have to look for the thing.
[09:31] <CrakeHunter> k thx in advance :)
[09:31] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: system,preferences,sessions.
[09:31] <lehaid> ok
[09:31] <lehaid> connected to back.. works :)
[09:31] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: there,you'll probably know what to do.
[09:31] <lehaid> now, i want to install on the 1GB flash card, a linux dist with GCC
[09:32] <lehaid> any recommendations ?
[09:32] <pbureau> lehaid, I have a card reader that does the same thing..
[09:32] <Nomad_O_North> So, the contents of my applications menu will be in my personal settings...?
[09:32] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: especially cause my ubuntu is in portuguese and i don't know how to explain you that.
[09:32] <CrakeHunter> i suppose add it in startup programs ;)
[09:32] <lehaid> what is a small, non-X distribution, with gcc that fits 1 GB?
[09:32] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: yes :P
[09:32] <pbureau> lehaid, nope never done it
[09:32] <Zahrber> Can anyone tell me how to use NMapFe with root privledges
[09:32] <CrakeHunter> a muchas gracis!
[09:32] <ddude> mplayer question: how can i decrease the font size of the sub-titles? (srt file)
[09:32] <Zahrber> *priviledges
[09:32] <lehaid> guess, i'll try slackware again
[09:32] <ompaul> Nomad_O_North, back this up:  .gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers/
[09:32] <gapagos> can anyone help me boot into 6.10
[09:32] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: that is spanish,but no hay problema.los 2 sn casi iguales.
[09:33] <gapagos> 6.10 freezes during live cd boot
[09:33] <cables> !br | mamonassassina
[09:33] <ubotu> mamonassassina: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:33] <Flannel> gapagos: did you check the CD?
[09:33] <gapagos> yes
[09:33] <ompaul> !bootoptions | gapagos
[09:33] <gapagos> cd is fine
[09:33] <ubotu> gapagos: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[09:33] <mamonassassina> cables: why?
[09:33] <alex_> hola buenas, alguien sabe de asterisk?
[09:33] <mamonassassina> cables: why should i go to ubuntu-br if i speak english?
[09:33] <gapagos> ubotu: what options should I use? 6.06 didn't need any options to boot properly
[09:33] <pbureau> !es | alex_
[09:33] <poningru> !nm
[09:33] <HymnToLife> !es | alenax
[09:33] <ubotu> alex_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:33] <mamonassassina> cables: why should i go to ubuntu-br if i have asked my question in english right here 10 minutes ago?
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <ubotu> alenax: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:34] <Zahrber> gapagos: where does it freeze look at what is the last service loaded
[09:34] <poningru> !network manager
[09:34] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[09:34] <cables> mamonassassina, i just got back to the channel and i thought you wanted help in Portuguese... sorry
[09:34] <KratoS_> we
[09:34] <CrakeHunter> my gaim crashes all the time.. anyway, no salgo antes yo te he preguntado como se dice "muchas gracias" en portugues?
[09:34] <Nomad_O_North> OK. Thanks ompaul!
[09:34] <KratoS_> Hi
[09:34] <mamonassassina> cables: ok,ok.
[09:34] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: it's 'muito obrigado'.
[09:34] <Zahrber> Can anyone tell me how to use NMapFe with root priviledges
[09:34] <mamonassassina> now,is a .bin file "mountable"?
[09:34] <gapagos> Zahrber: it freezes shortly after the kernel was loaded, when you see the big Ubuntu logo with a progress bar moving left to right to left to right
[09:34] <CrakeHunter> vale, muito obrigado :)   adios, amigo!
[09:34] <pbureau> obrigado in portuguesh
[09:34] <KratoS_> ehm...how I can connect to Italian server?
[09:35] <gapagos> there is no text at this point
[09:35] <pbureau> KratoS_,  /join #ubuntun-it
[09:35] <cables> CrakeHunter, are you on Edgy? It's a beta, and the bug should be reported. However, you can try  renaming ~/.gaim to something else to temporarily try using blank settings.
[09:35] <HymnToLife> KratoS_, /join #ubuntu-it
[09:35] <Zahrber> gapagos: so it never starts loading services
[09:35] <mamonassassina> CrakeHunter: adios.or,how we say it,"tchau". lol
[09:35] <CrakeHunter> yea im on edgy...
[09:35] <CrakeHunter> the bug cannot be reported, it crashes without error message
[09:35] <gapagos> Zahrber: I wouldn't know, i've never seen an edgy sucessful boot
[09:35] <KratoS_> ok thanks
[09:36] <Zahrber> gapagos: do you ever see the kernel module loaded
[09:36] <gapagos> Zahrber: yes, I can confirm the kernel module is always 100% loaded
[09:36] <enry183> somebody know a software for podcast
[09:36] <hbaigu> mamonassassina, what is that .bin file?
[09:36] <Skuller> To connect to the internet i use an ADSL modem which requires an Username and Password.....i used the pppoeconf to connect to the internet....i have 2 accounts which i want to be able to switch between easily rather than going through the whole process of 'pppoeconf' ing again and again....is it possible, if yes then how?
[09:36] <CrakeHunter> well,  - i dont chat very often anyway... so off to my new ubutnu desktop, weee :)
[09:36] <CrakeHunter> tchau, mamonassassina!
[09:37] <Zahrber> gapagos: then the hardware detection starts after that for loading modules into the kernel\
[09:37] <kitche> CrakeHunter: it does give an error you just can't see it unless you start gaim from terminal
[09:37] <flo_> how can i force a prog to compile with a arbitrary version of gcc?
[09:37] <pesco> Hi.
[09:37] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: a "virtual CD" (sorry for not having a better definition for that lol)
[09:37] <alex_> I need help with asterisk
[09:37] <alex_> I want to load chan_bluetooth but it's imposible
[09:37] <cables> alex_, #asterisk
[09:38] <_Dez> Hi guys
[09:38] <gapagos> anyway if i can't even BOOT into 6.10, I don't want to start thinking about upgrading it... the only reason I want 6.10 is to try Berryl 3d world; and I want to stick to Ubuntu because it's easy to set up
[09:38] <pirate-king> anybody running smoothwall?
[09:38] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: there is the option of burning it into a cd,but i'd like to mount it into a 'virtual drive'.
[09:38] <kitche> alex_: asterisk is probably to advance then what most people in here know about I barely know asterisk sicne I ddon't use it or have a need but read documents for it
[09:38] <pesco> I've got the following problem and can't find a fix: When I play back video with the XVideo extension, it appears but totally stretched vertically. This is feisty fawn herd 3 with a radeon 9600 on an Apple PowerBook.
[09:39] <pesco> Has anyone ever seen this or any idea what could fix it?
[09:39] <gapagos> knoppix also doesnt work very well, i have no video after xwindow server loads but thats another story
[09:39] <EdgEy_> gapagos, if you just want to try out beryl you could use 7.04, since it won't matter if anything breaks if you're just testing
[09:39] <kitche> pesco: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[09:39] <pesco> kitche: Oh, thanks! Sorry...
[09:39] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: cant write it.. somthing is wrong whith my keyboard.. cant write the "|" ... what button should i press in linux?
[09:40] <EdgEy_> _apelsinchoklad_, if it's on US layout
[09:40] <Zahrber> gapagos: check you loading of 6.06 and see what starts after kernel and I am sure 6.10 loads the first few the same. this will give you an idea where to start
[09:40] <EdgEy_> it's near the enter key
[09:40] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, copy and paste the text I posted into a terminatl window then :)
[09:40] <Norf-ubu> spot the idiot... :P i "played" with a proggy called bootup manager and disbaled all the services.... screen went blank so did a 3 finger shuffle to reboot.... it reboots but stops at a command prompt with Login...... heylp!
[09:40] <EdgEy_> possibly # or ]  (UK keyboard) i forget now
[09:40] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, type --> lspci |grep Network <--whats does it report
[09:40] <Locksmith> Back again after running dpkg to reconfigure xorg, and still not able to get xorg.conf to take the new settings (yes I ran it with sudo )
[09:40] <kurt> hello
[09:40] <kurt> is it true that linux is going commercial?
[09:41] <cables> kurt, some distros are commercial...
[09:41] <EdgEy_> 'linux' is a kernel
[09:41] <kurt> oh i see
[09:41] <Zahrber> gapagos: you will need to pay attention closely but you probably have hardware detection problems if Knoppix is acting up also
[09:41] <gapagos> Zahrber: if my hw is incompatible what can i do
[09:41] <kitche> Norg-ubu: login and fix what you did sicne you probably disabled gdm on boot so it boots to cli
[09:41] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureu:  cant copy past betwin two computers..
[09:41] <kurt> so the commercial ones have media support and wine right out fo the box?
[09:41] <gapagos> i mean i cant run everything software
[09:42] <gapagos> so in other words im fucked
[09:42] <ompaul> !language gapagos
[09:42] <ompaul> !language | gapagos
[09:42] <ubotu> gapagos: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:42] <Zahrber> gapagos: you may have to do some research on your exact HW to find the cure
[09:42] <pbureau>  the | key is the same as \ but press shift and \ and you will get |
[09:42] <Norf-ubu> kitche: ok- logged in but it stops at the comman dpromt - i'm a wet behind the ears newb - so pointers welcome
[09:42] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_,  the | key is the same as \ but press shift and \ and you will get |
[09:42] <hbaigu> mamonassassina: see it this help http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Burning_a_CDROM_from_a_bin/cue_file
[09:42] <gapagos> ah linux is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:42] <gapagos> too discouraging
[09:42] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: i dont want to burn it.
[09:42] <Muzik83> gapagos: have you tried disabling the splash screen and taking the silent mode off the boot options to the kernel?  This should spit out tons of lines of information on what its doing, rather than the nice pretty splash screen
[09:42] <unop> gapagos,  easy now
[09:42] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: i want to mount it.
[09:42] <kitche> kurt: linux is already commerical redhat suse xandros mandriva, even ubuntu is semi-commerical
[09:42] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: wont work.. i have swedish keyboard.
[09:42] <LjL> gapagos: spamming channels won't help much
[09:43] <|thunder> Norf-ubu; 'startx'
[09:43] <FantasticFoo> i just installed wifi-radar. when setting up a profile for a wireless network, how do i know what "channel" to give it?
[09:43] <kitche> Norf-ubu: startx to start X
[09:43] <Zahrber> gapagos: Linux requires you to learn more than Windows and that is a good things but places like this give you a push in the right direction
[09:43] <FantasticFoo> the options are "auto" or 1-14
[09:43] <hbaigu> mamonassassina: see the page botton, is give option about mounting
[09:43] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: oh,yes!thank you so much.
[09:43] <Skuller> kitche: how is ubuntu semi - commercial?
[09:43] <Norf-ubu> thank you thank you thank you!
[09:43] <gapagos> is there a way i can run Berryl in 6.06?
[09:43] <Norf-ubu> <huge grin>
[09:44] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, well I am sorry mate I have no idea, you may want to simply type lspci and look for your network card
[09:44] <mamonassassina> what is a "kernel module"?
[09:44] <Norf-ubu> teach me not to mess again :-s
[09:44] <kitche> Skuller: there is free support as this and paid support
[09:44] <LjL> mamonassassina: you know what the kernel is?
[09:44] <Zahrber> gapagos: check out your HW and I think you will find it easier than you think, but a little more than click a next next finish wizard
[09:44] <gapagos> i tried installing Berryl and ALIGX or whatever was required but when i run beryl-manager it logs me off
[09:44] <Skuller> kitche: oh...cool...thnx
[09:44] <mamonassassina> LjL: hm...no
[09:44] <ompaul> Skuller, and the people here are not paid
[09:44] <Locksmith> Anyone else been through the trouble of getting screen resolution problems resolved?
[09:44] <LjL> mamonassassina: well, Linux is the kernel, and it's basically the core of the operating system. the rest are "userland" programs.
[09:44] <kurt> someone asked already
[09:44] <LjL> mamonassassina: a kernel module is a part of the kernel that can be loaded and unloaded while the kernel is running
[09:44] <pbureau> Locksmith, mostly ATI/Nvidia owners :)
[09:44] <ompaul> !resolution | Locksmith
[09:44] <ubotu> Locksmith: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:45] <kurt> how is ubuntu semi-commercial?
[09:45] <mamonassassina> LjL: and how can i load it?
[09:45] <mamonassassina> LjL: or,load a module?
[09:45] <LjL> mamonassassina: drivers for hardware are often made as modules - that way, you don't need to have drivers for hardware that you don't have
[09:45] <Zahrber> gapagos: I don't care to use Beryl myself, but I am sure you could run it in 6.06
[09:45] <kurt> my ati is fine
[09:45] <EdgEy> gapagos, linux isn't really too discouraging, it's just when you have awkward unsupported hardware
[09:45] <LjL> mamonassassina: sudo modprobe modulename
[09:45] <unop> _apelsinchoklad_,  this ought to give you swedish keys - setxkbmap se
[09:45] <kurt> i havent installed the dirvers for 3d yet though
[09:45] <illriginal> Does K3B automatically convert files from mp3/wav to audio format so that it can be played in a stereo/cd player?
[09:45] <Skuller> ompaul: yea i figured that...i know all u guys here are doing a reali generous, not to mention a terrific, job
[09:45] <mamonassassina> LjL: this,for example.
[09:45] <EdgEy> there is nothing on Windows like beryl
[09:45] <mamonassassina> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Burning_a_CDROM_from_a_bin/cue_file#Mounting_a_BIN.2FCUE_or_IMG.2FCUE_file
[09:46] <pbureau> unop he has swedish keyboard they just dont have the "pipe" "|" key on their keyboards
[09:46] <hbaigu> mamonassassina: try first to convert to a iso
[09:46] <Zahrber> gapagos: what kind of system are u using
[09:46] <gapagos> amd
[09:46] <mamonassassina> hbaigu: ya,easier :P
[09:46] <unop> pbureau,  errm, sure they do :)
[09:46] <gapagos> tower
[09:46] <Zahrber> gapagos: graphics
[09:46] <LjL> mamonassassina: well, that is not a module that's available in Ubuntu, and unfortunately *adding* new modules is not very easy
[09:46] <illriginal> Does K3B automatically convert files from mp3/wav to audio format so that it can be played in a stereo/cd player?
[09:46] <gapagos> pci-e nvidia 7200
[09:46] <Muzik83> illriginal: yes when everything is working... i can create an audo cd, drag mp3s on it, and burn...then play in any cd player ...  what version of k3b do you have, and ubuntu?
[09:46] <LjL> mamonassassina: so i second the suggestion to try converting to an ISO using bchunk, first
[09:47] <LjL> !bchunk
[09:47] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:47] <shadowhywind> hay all when i just to use wpa_supplicant it slows my computer down to a halt, any ideas
[09:47] <pbureau> unop, I would not know... he said he did not have one... what do I know I have a qwerty keyboard..
[09:47] <Zahrber> gapagos: do you have 3d in other apps to make sure you nvidia drivers are loaded properly
[09:47] <jexdawg> i just installed wine and i need to edit a file in the directory ~/.wine/drive_c ... how do i get to said directory?
[09:47] <illriginal> Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 and K3B 12.17
[09:47] <gapagos> oh yeah i have official drivers and they work very well
[09:47] <EdgEy> jexdawg, ~/ would be your home folder
[09:47] <LjL> jexdawg: gedit ~/.wine/drive_c/nameofthefile
[09:47] <EdgEy> for example /home/username/
[09:47] <jexdawg> man you guys kick ass
[09:47] <gapagos> games such as vega strike
[09:48] <gapagos> work well
[09:48] <juraj> hy
[09:48] <illriginal> Muzik83 Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10 and K3B 12.17
[09:48] <mamonassassina> jexdawg: i agree,this guys are awesome (not being sarcastic,i don't include myself on that)
[09:48] <gapagos> i get 150fps at armagetron or something
[09:48] <kurt> jexdawg, in home choose view hidden files
[09:48] <fr> test test
[09:48] <unop> pbureau, every single keyboard locale supports "|" .. he might just have a different keymap set now where "|" is somewhere other than where it is expected
[09:48] <Zahrber> gapagos: ok sounds good, now start checking all other HW and narrow it down to HW or a certain process failing at boot
[09:48] <kurt> jexdawg, then you can look around for the file you need to edit
[09:49] <jexdawg> ah... show hidden files. excellent. thanks kurt
[09:49] <gapagos> but why would 6.10 be uncompatible with stuff that used to in 6.06
[09:49] <LjL> unop, pbureau: i think some (a few?) layouts have "|" as the key next to the left Shift key. and if one makes the mistake of telling the system they have a PC104 keyboard instead of PC105, that key won't be recognized. just a thought
[09:49] <FantasticFoo> a tutorial told me to "rmmod" a certain module. how do i do the opposite: add the module back?
[09:49] <oCfuu> hi there
[09:49] <Muzik83> illriginal: i'm on 6.06 and 12.17...and on im seeing what I have installed
[09:49] <LjL> FantasticFoo: sudo modprobe modulename
[09:49] <juraj> i don't know what is the topic, i would like to ask few questions
[09:49] <FantasticFoo> LjL: oh thanks
[09:49] <EdgEy> !ask
[09:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:50] <illriginal> ah ok
[09:50] <juraj> does it exsist vu meter for xmms
[09:50] <oCfuu> can anyone help me getting sound drivers installed for my nforce2 board?
[09:50] <oCfuu> i get a wird error when I try to install using the how-to in the forums
[09:50] <unop> pbureau,  and IIRC, even non-english language keyboards support the qwerty and dvorak configurations .. althought dvorak would be quite rare then
[09:50] <Zahrber> gapagos: 6.10 has newer technology so it may be doing something different. I use my 6.06 and 6.10 on a basic system I don't do much 3d stuff so I can't tell you
[09:51] <pbureau> unop I get your point but it wasnt me that had the | problem.. :)
[09:51] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: it comes nothing when i write it..
[09:51] <Locksmith> where would this KEY be located so i can fix it """"Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/screen//0/resolution": Can't have two slashes (/) in a row
[09:51] <Locksmith> """ I get this error opening SCREEN RESOLUTION under the prefrences menu
[09:51] <juraj> some kind of vu meter for xmms?
[09:51] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, you on a MAC.
[09:52] <juraj> enybody
[09:52] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: yes
[09:52] <nusa42> Sup - I'm having a problem hooking my Ubuntu HTPC to my LCD - Any experts know how to alter resolution, restart X from the console?
[09:52] <Zahrber> gtg
[09:52] <knoppix> hello ?
[09:52] <sontek> How do I tel gtksourceview/gedit what a mime types header should look like?
[09:52] <EdgEy> nusa42, something like /etc/init.d/gdm restart can work depends on your environment
[09:52] <knoppix> i tought i didn't have internet
[09:52] <Pau1ius> hi, how could I find out which package some file belongs to?
[09:52] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, and you typed lspci and you got no replies ? then I have no ideas.. guess mac dont have pci chipsets...
[09:52] <Locksmith> NUSA42 - I am having resolution issues too
[09:53] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: i may made somthing wrong then?
[09:53] <nusa42> well.. I'm running mythtv and uninstalled gdm to be able to automatically login... so I don't have a login manager anymore.
[09:53] <Muzik83> illriginal: before you said you have the libk3b2-mp3 installed, does k3b recognize this in tools -> options -> plugins -> "k3b MAD Decoder" ?
[09:53] <knoppix> so is this real or is this a demo ? :P
[09:54] <unop> LjL, that | issue you experienced could be a locale specific thing -- i tried changing my keyboard's model to PC104 but | is still where it should be, although if i change to an american layout i get > there instead
[09:54] <hbaigu> Pau1ius, dpkg -S /path/to/file
[09:54] <LjL> unop: but your | is next to the left Shift key?
[09:54] <LjL> unop: it really only concerns keyboards that have | there
[09:55] <illriginal> Muzik83 I'm burnin the CD right now to see if it works
[09:55] <Muzik83> ok
[09:55] <nusa42> I've tried to edit xorg.conf but no luck - tried to reconfigure X server to different low level resolution - still no luck - LCD screen (Samsung LE32M5 32" native 1360x768)
[09:55] <EdgEy> is it possible to speed up dd ?
[09:55] <unop> LjL,  on te left hand bottom side of they keyboard, above the WIN key and to the right of shift , yes :)
[09:55] <illriginal> Muzik83 it just started to play the mp3s in k3b so im assuming it's working
[09:55] <EdgEy> dd if /dev/hda of /media/disk/hda6.img bs 1 skip<PHONE_NUMBER>00
[09:55] <EdgEy> is running ~200 kB/s
[09:55] <jexdawg> this wine tutorial i'm following says: Change to the location where the WineCVS.sh is lying and start it with: sh WineCVS.sh  - uhh.... change what to that location? start it how? huh? haha
[09:55] <unop> s/te/the/ s/they/the/
[09:56] <Locksmith> NUSA42 - Welcome to the club
[09:56] <EnterUserName> hi all.
[09:56] <nusa42> heh
[09:56] <EnterUserName> I can't seem to find the answer to this easily. I'm placing a script in the cron.daily, willt his run aily as it says
[09:56] <LjL> unop: well anyway the problem for me was when i set pc104 from xorg.conf (that is, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) - if you've tried it from inside GNOME, perhaps it doesn't happen there
[09:56] <EnterUserName> dand if so what user
[09:56] <kitche> jexdawg: you need that script it installs wine from CVS
[09:56] <EnterUserName> erk and if so what user will the cron daily will run with?
[09:56] <Vema> Can i send a password with telnet? Ex: telnet server.com 22 password="test" ?
[09:56] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: is there something other I can do?
[09:57] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_,  try ifconfig does it see an eth0 card >
[09:57] <LjL> Vema, no, telnet has no specific support for passwords
[09:57] <jexdawg> kitche, do you mind if I pm/bother you excessively?
[09:57] <nusa42> LjL hmm ... I run with the Intel i855 chipset - set the reconfigure script to i810 -
[09:57] <juraj> i need to compile something for ubuntu how??
[09:57] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: yes.
[09:57] <LjL> Vema: (besides, keep in mind that passwrods via telnet is not quite a good idea anyway)
[09:57] <EnterUserName> anyone? Will all scripts run in the cron.daily and what user is it run as?
[09:57] <hbaigu> EdgEy, put bs=1024, ajust the skip value
[09:57] <unop> LjL, yea, i did try it from within gnome -- but it shouldnt make a difference where you change it because a PC104 keyb is a PC104 kb whereever you use it, no?
[09:58] <EdgEy> hbaigu divide skip by 1024 ?
[09:58] <troll_> hey, how can i change my screen resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1024?
[09:58] <hbaigu> EdgEy, bs=1024c, yes
[09:58] <albacker> whats the name of the package that creates and installs .deb from source ?
[09:58] <Vema> LjL, So i have to type it in? Yes i know this, its clear text and easy sniff. But i need to send everything without user input
[09:58] <Locksmith> lol TROLL let me know when you figure it out OK
[09:58] <Muzik83> EnterUserName: I'm not sure of the answer to your question, however you can do a crontab -e to edit the crontab file.  If you want it to run as a certain user you can either do the crontab -e command as that user, or there is a way to use root and specify the user (but i'm not sure of how that works)
[09:58] <kitche> jexdawg: not really since I m just typing up a paper but it's already written just transfering it to computer so I can print it
[09:58] <nusa42> LockSmith: heh... really sucks eh!? Used 4 days to set up Mythtv + Ubuntu so everything works (sata, raid, myth .. phew)
[09:58] <unop> albacker,  sudo apt-get -b source package
[09:58] <_Tom_> Oh here we are.
[09:58] <cgeo> guys. i try to bbot with a live cd and all i get is a blank screen when it is supposed to enter the gui.i do hear sound hear sounds and stuff though
[09:58] <albacker> unop, i have the package in .tar.gz
[09:58] <_Tom_> Live CD ftw \o/
[09:59] <EnterUserName> hrm. thank you.
[09:59] <LjL> unop, well, i wouldn't be so sure... after all, a PC105 keyboard is just a PC104 keyboard with one more key ;-) and since i don't really know what the difference is between setting the layout from GNOME and doing it in the X config (but there certainly is a difference), for all i know it may well be that the X config overrides GNOME in that respect
[09:59] <Muzik83> EnterUserName: does that help at all?
[09:59] <nusa42> WHen connecting to my lcd screen - the resolution fucks up ...
[09:59] <troll_> Locksmith, i've tried to add the resolution in the xorg.conf but it doesn't work
[09:59] <_Tom_> I has a quick question about /boot
[09:59] <Locksmith> well I'm on day 1 and I have just about everything working except screen resolution and MP3 player
[09:59] <EnterUserName> I missed some of it cuz of the scrolling im aware of the crontab -e
[09:59] <hbaigu> EdgEy, what are you doing?, you can dd from /dev/hda6, do you know that?
[09:59] <_Tom_> How big would one choose to make their /boot partition?
[09:59] <EnterUserName> i guess i can sudo -i and then put it in the root user
[09:59] <EdgEy> dd if /dev/hda of /media/disk/hda6.img bs 1024 skip 136718750
[10:00] <EnterUserName> thank you
[10:00] <EdgEy> is now running 20mB/s thankyou
[10:00] <EdgEy> hbaigu, yeah, well
[10:00] <unop> albacker,  use the usual way then -- or did you want to do something more debian-specific with it?
[10:00] <EdgEy> i deleted a partition
[10:00] <kitche> !fixres | LockSmith troll_
[10:00] <ubotu> LockSmith troll_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:00] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: it says eth0 and a lot of other stuff..
[10:00] <roo_> _Tom_, not very big, less than 100mb perhaps
[10:00] <Locksmith> TROLL_ I have tried manually editing xorg.conf and running the dpkg and still nothing
[10:00] <Muzik83> EnterUserName: so if i want to run it as someone, I would su to them then do the -e ... its probably not the best solution
[10:00] <LjL> Vema, you could pipe something into telnet. like  echo mypassword | telnet blah.com  22  - i suppose it should work. or use "chat" if you need something more complicated (like, waiting for a login prompt)
[10:00] <cgeo> guys. i try to boot with a live cd and all i get is a blank screen when it is supposed to enter the gui.i do hear sound hear sounds and stuff though
[10:00] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_, is there an IP line ?
[10:00] <EdgEy> and i'm trying to image the part of my hdd that the partition was on to use some data recovery software with it
[10:00] <EdgEy> :)
[10:00] <Muzik83> EnterUserName: but those who know seem to be keeping silent :p
[10:00] <EnterUserName> i understand that.. im not too familiar with ubuntu i'll do some testing. thanx
[10:00] <EnterUserName> :)
[10:00] <nusa42> heh - lucky you ! ;) - Took me forever to get Ubuntu to recognize my SATA controller and SpeedStep -
[10:00] <Vema> LjL, Cool, thanks :)
[10:00] <troll_> ubotu, ty
[10:00] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:00] <_Tom_> roo_:  Would I get away with any less than 100MB?
[10:00] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: yepp
[10:00] <unop> LjL,  telnet to an ssh port? :o eh?
[10:01] <andre> hey folks
[10:01] <CrakeHunter> hi again, id like to import my conctacts (vcf format) in evolution. do i really have to insert them one by one
[10:01] <roo_> _Tom_, are you that pushed for space?!
[10:01] <_Tom_> nusa42: I'm having the same fun atm :)
[10:01] <LjL> unop: eh, yeah, well, whatever :P
[10:01] <albacker> unop, what's the usual way ? i mean, i dont want to compile it, or maybe it will compile ut i want to install the .deb so itll be easier for unninstalling !
[10:01] <CrakeHunter> or is there a faster way
[10:01] <_Tom_> roo_:  Yes :p
[10:01] <pbureau> _apelsinchoklad_,  okay I am confused or I did not understand your problem can you repeat yourself please
[10:01] <] {urgan> Hey all, I have a very strange, obscure linux wifi networking issue
[10:01] <nusa42> must have recompiled <IP_ADDRESS> 12-15 times :)
[10:01] <Vema> unop, He was responding to my Q, the port is not the Q
[10:01] <_Tom_> 70GB drive, no more :/
[10:01] <unop> LjL,  that surely will not work .. lol.. telnet does not talk SSH :p
[10:01] <roo_> _Tom_, yes, you would. But remember, most filesystems take up some of the space (for inodes etc), so you'll never get the 'full' amount.
[10:01] <albacker> unop, checkinstall is what i was thinking of.. thanks a lot
[10:01] <andre> I've got a funny issue with the nvidia drivers, upon reboot the screen is bigger than my monitor so by moving the mouse to the edges it shifts the screen around...
[10:02] <_Tom_> I seeee
[10:02] <LjL> unop, really i just used the same port that Vema used in the example... if i have to be honest, right now i don't *remember* what's the telnet standard port :P
[10:02] <_Tom_> Right well, 100MB it will be :)
[10:02] <depinko> Audacity: host not found, can't find audio device........any solutions?
[10:02] <_Tom_> Thanks for your help, roo_
[10:02] <roo_> _Tom_, np.
[10:02] <roo_> depinko, do you get sound outside of audacity?
[10:02] <unop> Vema,  well, if you are trying to telnet to SSH .. all you'll get is garble .. telnet doesnt understand the ssh protocol
[10:02] <unop> LjL,  23 :)
[10:02] <depinko> roo_: yeah
[10:02] <Locksmith> What is a good MP3 player for Ubuntu?
[10:02] <Violent_Solution> howdy
[10:02] <roo_> depinko, no idea then.
[10:02] <SmashCat> Hi, anyone know if amavis-ng is just a test release? Doesn't seem to do anything at all on my server!
[10:02] <LjL> unop: 21 22 and 23 i always mess them up
[10:02] <LjL> !players > Locksmith    (Locksmith, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:03] <roo_> Locksmith, many players work.
[10:03] <Vema> unop, ... The port was not the Q!!
[10:03] <unop> LjL,  ftp, ssh, telnet
[10:03] <depinko> roo_: I read something about killing esd or artsd but it didn't helped
[10:03] <alex_21> i need some help with asterisk....
[10:03] <unop> Vema,  well, i gathered that but i'm trying to save you the hassle
[10:03] <andre> !nvidia9
[10:03] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[10:03] <Violent_Solution> i have a problem getting my wireless card running the drivers are installed  using ndiswrapper but the card (pcmcia) isnt powering up
[10:04] <_apelsinchoklad_> pbureau: yeh. I can try... but thanx anyway..
[10:04] <EnterUserName> ok I figured out .. a bit how it works :)
[10:04] <EnterUserName> thankx all
[10:04] <Vema> unop, Ok thanks, but i its ok
[10:04] <] {urgan> This is weird, so I'll try to explain it fully:  I have a number of computers, 2 laptops and 1 desktop, all exhibit the same problem under linux but not under windows.  the problem is that when I first start the computer up, often DNS lookups wont work, unless I manually ping my gateway machine first.  When I ping the gateway machine, often the first ping will take upwards of 400ms to return, and all others after that will come
[10:04] <] {urgan>  back in 2 or 3ms
[10:05] <unop> ] {urgan,  man, what a nickname you have ? :(
[10:05] <LjL> unop: easy to tab complete :)
[10:05] <stonedog> Has anyone had issue with the kernel update killing Nvidia function?
[10:05] <] {urgan> unop, sorry, I cna change if you want :)
[10:05] <unop> LjL,  still, ] <tab> :)
[10:05] <scott__> hey, anyone know of a linux program that can stream video to an xbox360?
[10:06] <kitche> stonedog: yes with each new kernel the nvidia module for hte old kernel is no good anymore
[10:06] <unop> ] {urgan,  it's ok .. i'm just fussy :p
[10:06] <LjL> unop: actually, for me it's just ur<tab>, my client is that smart :P
[10:06] <mojo_> i am having weird problem with my networking... all seems fine except webpages take FOREVER to load... , ffox or even konqueror.. But using Privoxy/Tor is actually faster in ffox..  now my roommates (winxp/ffox) are having no problems at all... so it is not the router or cablenet...  ideas???
[10:06] <roo_> scott__, nope, its not possible.
[10:06] <kitche> stonedog: not sure if they fixed it yet but you can use envy for now or use the old kernel
[10:06] <kitche> !ipv6 | mojo_ if you didn't disable ipv6 yet
[10:06] <ubotu> mojo_ if you didn't disable ipv6 yet: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:06] <CrakeHunter> i would like to import my vcf contact files into evolution. is there another way than to import them one by one ( i know to many ppl for that ;) )
[10:07] <scott__> roo_ im pretty sure it is, as you no longer require emdia centre edition of windows to do it, media connect and wmp 11 can do it
[10:07] <] {urgan> unop, any idea about my problem, I think it's possibly the gateway machine, but it only affects linux machines, so I wondered if it's MMU or something strange
[10:07] <unop> ] {urgan,  have you tried disabling IPv6 in the kernel and other network apps
[10:07] <stonedog> envy?  I figured I'd have to look up the version of the new kernel and reload the old one...but what is envy?
[10:07] <roo_> scott__, and how can you get media connect and wmp 11 on linux?
[10:07] <] {urgan> unop, no, thats a good idea, I'll try that
[10:07] <kitche> !envy | stonedog
[10:07] <ubotu> stonedog: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[10:07] <scott__> roo_ you cant, but various other windows program will stream video to it
[10:07] <andre> !nvidia9
[10:07] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[10:07] <mojo_> thanks kitche i'll check that out... but wonder how it got turned on ... stuff was fine not that long ago... hmm
[10:08] <SmashCat> Anyone know of a replacement for amavis?
[10:08] <roo_> scott__, I see, interesting. Its been a month or so since I tried. TVersity looked promising, but it was extremely buggy when I tried it.
[10:08] <bart_> SmashCat ClamAV?
[10:08] <daviey> Is there a tool i can use to automatically wget from an rss feed?
[10:08] <tuskernini> does anyone know how to chat with netcat through a network?
[10:08] <stonedog> thanks folks!
[10:09] <unop> LjL,  what client you running?
[10:09] <mojo_> hmm maybe it was my kernel update to .17 from .15... could've been...
[10:09] <SmashCat> bart_: I have clamAV installed too, I think amavis is a dead project, wondered if it was continuing under another name.
[10:10] <troll_> how can i see my x server driver?
[10:10] <roo_> scott__, I saw there was a way to stream using vlc that transcode to wmv on the fly, but i couldnt get the linux release of vlc to work.
[10:10] <Drago84> salve
[10:10] <FantasticFoo> i have a weird problem. i recently installed ubuntu edgy on my dell laptop. whenever i first start firefox after i reboot, it crashes. then after that firefox functions flawlessly
[10:10] <FantasticFoo> anybody know what this is about?
[10:10] <scott__> roo_, cheers, i will look into it
[10:10] <LjL> unop: konversation
[10:10] <LjL> !it | Drago84
[10:10] <ubotu> Drago84: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:10] <troll_> Drago84, questo  in ing collegati a -it
[10:10] <] {urgan> unop, remind me, I just comment out the net-pf-10 ipv6 line from /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (or wherever the aliases file is now)
[10:10] <troll_> how can i see my x server driver?
[10:10] <bart_> Is there a way to exclude packages from the Update Manager ?
[10:10] <Drago84> haaaaaaaa
[10:10] <EnterUserName> why does crontab run anacron it doesnt look like it actually does anything..
[10:10] <Drago84> :D
[10:10] <] {urgan> unop, or do I have to change ti to off, or something weird
[10:10] <roo_> scott__, my problem was that i couldn't find ANYTHING that transcodes to wmv. FROM wmv no problem, but a wmv encoder was impossible
[10:10] <LjL> troll_: try lshw -class display
[10:11] <Violent_Solution> i have a problem getting my wireless card running the drivers are installed  using ndiswrapper but the card (pcmcia) isnt powering up
[10:11] <alex_21> anybody know asterisk???i need some help
[10:11] <unop> tuskernini,  on the server -- nc -v -L t -p 666 -- on the client - nc servername 666
[10:11] <EnterUserName> am i looking at it wrong or can someone give me a hint.. from the cron.daily it looks like if it checks if its esxecuteable.. then updates timestamps but does nothing..
[10:11] <tuskernini> unop,  thank you will try it out
[10:11] <unop> !ipv6 | ] {urgan
[10:11] <ubotu> ] {urgan: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:12] <tuskernini> unop, as we spoke just read it on http://www.rohitab.com/discuss/lofiversion/index.php/t11812.html
[10:12] <stonedog> Roo_, I don't know that there is any FOSS stuff that will transcode into wmv.
[10:12] <Zorg95> hi, i am just curous whether the next release of Ubuntu will be Long Term Supported as the Dapper Drake is... anybody knows?
[10:12] <witless> hi.  can i burn an mpg file to a dvd and play it in a regular dvd player?
[10:12] <LjL> Zorg95: no, it won't
[10:12] <bart_> witless : no , you must convert that mpg to a .vob file before a dvdplayer can play it
[10:12] <roo_> stonedog, scott__ - yeah, a lack of a wmv encoder seems to be the sticking point for linux->360 streaming :(
[10:12] <pear> does anyone know if Ubuntu plans to introduce this silly new Vista/DRM standards to future releases? any news on that?
[10:12] <witless> bart_: how can i do that?
[10:12] <Violent_Solution> can someone gimmie a hand with my wireless card problem please?
[10:13] <scott__> roo_,  bah :(
[10:13] <Flannel> Zorg95: it'll most likely be 7.10
[10:13] <cables> pear, why would Ubuntu put DRM in?
[10:13] <Bakefy> I have a folder that has a locked icon, I cannot delete it.
[10:13] <unop> tuskernini,  yea, it's probably where i copied that command from too (a few years ago)
[10:13] <cables> !wifi | Violent_Solution, try this first:
[10:13] <ubotu> Violent_Solution, try this first:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:13] <roo_> stonedog, scott__ - unless of course there is a windows implementation of wmv encoder that will run under wine. but performance might be shit..
[10:13] <Zorg95> thanks a lot
[10:13] <pear> cables: because its the new snazzy standard, and i heard even Linus said he wasnts it in the lnx kernel?
[10:13] <Scott___> hello
[10:13] <mojo_> okay kitche i'll give those changes a try... thanks!!  bbiab
[10:13] <bart_> witless : try with mencoder (it's a program that comes with MPlayer)
[10:13] <Violent_Solution> thanks ill see what i can find from tehre
[10:13] <Scott___> i need help
[10:13] <nusa42> How about restarting X server from the console - anyone jow the syntex (how to kill it - I know the startx syntax)
[10:13] <unop> roo_,  wmv, just say no!! :)
[10:13] <stonedog> Witless, try Avidemux to do the transcoding for you.  Transcode into MP2 and then KMediaFactory or something similar to make the DVD .iso for you
[10:14] <] {urgan> cheers ubotu and unop, I'll be back once I've rebooted
[10:14] <witless> ok, thanks bart_ stonedog
[10:14] <alex_21> i want to use chan_bluetooth but it's imposible
[10:14] <roo_> unop, I know.. i feel dirty even saying it, but there's not a lot of choice. Plus, i want to transcode on the fly, so its only temporarily dirty :p
[10:14] <Bakefy> what is the command to delete folders in terminal
[10:14] <Scott___> so i just installed ubuntu, and everythign is fine, it sits on a 10gb partition (1 of 4 including the linux swap, on my hard drive)
[10:14] <nusa42> rmdir
[10:15] <Scott___> except I cant connect to the internet
[10:15] <nusa42> Bakefy: rmdir
[10:15] <Littlegator> Quick Question: cp is the copy command, right?
[10:15] <unop> roo_,  some important trivia (oxymoron?) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <juraj> i have something in source code how to compile that for ubuntu?
[10:15] <Flannel> !compile | juraj
[10:15] <ubotu> juraj: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:15] <Muzik83> bakefy: rmdir if the folder is empty, and rm -ri if the folder has stuff in it...
[10:15] <pear> anyway, this new Vista DRM and tieing the OS to hardware IDs sounds like a nightmare...so I'm going to dump Windows and ONLY use Linux now. stupid MS
[10:15] <nusa42> Littlegator: yes
[10:15] <cables> pear, you mean Trusted Computing?
[10:15] <tuskernini> unop, wierd with the nc -v -L t -p 666 i get a invalid option -- L
[10:15] <juraj> ok thanks
[10:15] <unop> roo_,  off course there's choice -- the most popular at the moment happens to be another non-free format - .flv :)
[10:15] <reap> would it be worth it for me to go with the 6.10 installation
[10:15] <reap> or the older one?
[10:16] <reap> first time ubuntu user
[10:16] <cables> reap, try both, see if you have any problems with either.
[10:16] <thegve> Hello. I've got an SD slot in my laptop. When I insert my 2GB fat32 SD card, it will only mount read-only.
[10:16] <cables> reap, try both on the livecd.
[10:16] <roo_> unop, err, i know about these issues.. im quite an active f/oss developer :) i just want to watch movies on my 360 but streaming them!
[10:16] <stonedog> I like 6.10, but either way you are going to be fine.
[10:16] <thegve> Does anybody know how I can get it to work?
[10:16] <reap> kk
[10:16] <alex_21> please anybody can help me with asterisk?????????'
[10:16] <Littlegator> Why, when I try to copy a directory to a folder, does it say "omitting ** directory" ?
[10:16] <alex_21> please anybody can help me with asterisk?????????'
[10:16] <cables> thegve, check the write-protect tab
[10:16] <EdgEy> reap i would say try 6.10 and if you have any major issues switch, i see no real reason to use 6.06 on the desktop unless you are having issues
[10:16] <Scott___> ive installed ubuntu 6.10, and it wont connect to the internet
[10:16] <alex_21> please anybody can help me with asterisk?????????'
[10:16] <cables> alex_21, check #asterisk
[10:16] <reap> its going on a fairly bland system
[10:16] <Bakefy> thanks Muzik83
[10:16] <unop> roo_,  ogg then (if you really seek FOSS approval) :)
[10:16] <Muzik83> reap: I use both.. provided both are problem free then I would use 6.10, it has more eye-candy
[10:16] <reap> AMD XP1500
[10:17] <reap> ATI 8500
[10:17] <reap> ok
[10:17] <reap> ya ill try the 6.10
[10:17] <thegve> cables: I've checked the obvious :) Tested using both settings
[10:17] <roo_> unop, do you know what an xbox 360 is? are you implying that an xbox 360 will play ogg theora files?
[10:17] <mega_fauna> !rules
[10:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:17] <unop> tuskernini, try -l instead there
[10:17] <Cyrus25801> what can i play swf and flv files with
[10:17] <tuskernini> unop, will do
[10:17] <EdgEy> Cyrus firefox should load swf with the flash plugin
[10:17] <Flannel> Cyrus25801: flash
[10:17] <cables> Cyrus25801, flash?
[10:17] <thegve> cables: Forget to test it in my PDA
[10:17] <cables> !flash | Cyrus25801
[10:17] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:17] <Littlegator> that was amazing xD
[10:17] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:17] <Cyrus25801> yea flash
[10:18] <cables> thegve, that would be good :)
[10:18] <Littlegator> anyone know how to install cursor themes?
[10:18] <unop> roo_, errm, depends - what are you using to stream?
[10:18] <thegve> cables: The card was OK
[10:18] <cables> Littlegator, yep, hold on a minute
[10:19] <roo_> unop, huh? it doesnt depend on what you use to stream, it depends on the format of the video being streamed to the xbox.
[10:20] <mega_fauna> Hi, I need help with a new install which won't boot
[10:20] <foutrelis> Do you know any vmware like software for Ubuntu?
[10:20] <Bakefy> Muzik83 I have a folder that as a lock on it... i tryed deleting it in terminal, but it still didnt work?
[10:20] <stonedog> xbox is M$ product so it will likely only take their twisted Mpeg4 stuff.  The .wmv format.
[10:20] <unop> roo_,  ahh n/m me .. :)
[10:20] <GenNMX> Anyone use a USB Switch? I'm trying to google right now to find any tested-and-true for 2.6.x -- so far, not good. I want to be able to switch between my Windows and Linux desktops without unplugging and replugging (monitor has dual input)
[10:20] <unop> Littlegator,  did you get an answer to your cp question ?
[10:20] <norf-ubu> foutrelis:  yes - vmware is available for linux too
[10:21] <seraphim> foutrelis: qemu
[10:21] <kaptengu> can I change a setting so I don't have to be root to mount stuff?
[10:21] <CageX> ok i just installed the software beautifull
[10:21] <roo_> whats the name of the partition table recover program? aaah, cant remember the name! checkdisk.. something like that
[10:21] <Rhyolite> what is the status of Serial Attached SCSI support?  The information in the UbuntuForums doesn't seem definitive.
[10:21] <cables> Littlegator, put them in ~/.icons
[10:21] <deLatz> hey there, how do I disable "tooltips" in gnome????
[10:21] <Bakefy> GenNMX, what about a kvm switch?
[10:21] <CageX> how do i make it look 3D
[10:21] <foutrelis> norf-ubu: Fogot to mention I was looking for something free or open source. sorry :)
[10:21] <ovidijusnorvilas> hi all
[10:21] <kurt> night folks
[10:21] <cables> Littlegator, extract and put in ~/.icons
[10:21] <ovidijusnorvilas> maby somewhone can help me
[10:21] <foutrelis> thank you seraphim, norf-ubu
[10:21] <roo_> ah - testdisk!
[10:21] <CageX> you know change from one look to another
[10:21] <GenNMX> Bakefy: They cost like 2x more, and the keyboard and mouse are both USB. So it would have to be a USB KVM anyway.
[10:21] <norf-ubu> foutrelis:  the vmware player is - if not QEMU
[10:22] <roo_> Rhyolite, try it :)
[10:22] <ovidijusnorvilas> understand how start use ubuntu linux?
[10:22] <kaptengu> how do I change the security level for mount, I don't want to write sudo mount?
[10:22] <Littlegator> cables, I can't copy them to icons, the GUI paste says I need admin priveliges and I'm doing something wrong when I try to copy it in terminal
[10:22] <cables> Littlegator, it's your own home folder...
[10:22] <Littlegator> cables: I know, but it doesn't let me
[10:22] <cables> Littlegator, do alt-f2, then gksudo nautilus, then use that.
[10:22] <unop> kaptengu, errm, i think if the entry exists in /etc/mtab for that partition, you should be able to mount it
[10:22] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: what do you need help with: do you have it downloaded? Installed?
[10:22] <stonedog> And, vmware is going to be included into the Kernel here soon.  Was going to be compiled into the Feisty issue but may not make it until the next one.
[10:23] <CageX> it shows as box and four sides how can i make it show that???
[10:23] <Bakefy> GenNMX, what are you wanting to spend?  i have a kvm that i use and its got the usb to ps/1 adapter it was like 30
[10:23] <Rhyolite> I was hoping to use SAS with Dapper, but it appears incomplete
[10:23] <foutrelis> norf-ubu: I want to install Ubuntu server on a virtual environment :P
[10:23] <kaptengu> thx unop
[10:23] <Rhyolite> Is SAS better supported in Edgy?
[10:23] <DarkSalmon> When I start Lirc manually with `sudo lircd`, my ir-transmitter works fine.  I've tired every method of getting lircd to load on boot, but it never seems to work.  Can anyone offer some advise?
[10:23] <jrib> kaptengu: anyone can run mount but you need permission to mount a partition
[10:23] <Littlegator> cables: oh yeah, forgot about that :p
[10:23] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik....today I instal ubuntu Linux 5.04 to my pc
[10:23] <infidel> does anyone have a cell phone that uses a mini sd chip?
[10:23] <unop> kaptengu, is this a removable drive?
[10:23] <Bakefy> GenNMX, it does stereo sound too.
[10:23] <] {urgan> outstanding, that seems to have fixed it!
[10:23] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, how upgrade ubuntu?
[10:23] <norf-ubu> foutrelis:  each to his own lol
[10:23] <kinlo> hi, where, do I config the appereance of the "shutdown" button on the quit menu?  I now can only choose between hibernate and suspend... I want shutdown...
[10:23] <ovidijusnorvilas> How instal video and audio codex?
[10:23] <jrib> kaptengu: look up the "user" and/or "users" option in 'man mount' and use the one you think is appropriate in /etc/fstab for your partition
[10:24] <CageX> anyone can help me with some basic questions?
[10:24] <ovidijusnorvilas> until today i used Windows
[10:24] <kaptengu> unop: network share, but can I give my user account permission to mount?
[10:24] <ovidijusnorvilas> How instal skype?
[10:24] <foutrelis> CageX: Sure :)
[10:24] <GenNMX> Bakefy: My keyboard has special functions that need USB (no, not "media functions", it's a gaming keyboard). And I don't need audio switcher, I have a separate receiver.
[10:24] <CageX> foutrelis how can i make it look 3D and change from one screen to another
[10:24] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, go to skype.com, they provide an Ubuntu package.
[10:24] <unop> kaptengu,  look at what jrib just said -- thats how you'd do it
[10:24] <] {urgan> unop, Cheers, now for a slightly more complex question then.  If the issue is that my desktops are using ipv6, and the router doesn't understand ipv6 (hence the delay), If I upgrade the router to have ipv6, things will work?  or is that too complex?
[10:24] <CageX> foutrelis: do i need another program to do that??
[10:24] <ovidijusnorvilas> Cables, I download it to my pc
[10:25] <foutrelis> CageX: Beryl can do that.
[10:25] <kaptengu> ohh thx unop and jrib
[10:25] <ovidijusnorvilas> but i dont know how instal it in my pc
[10:25] <stonedog> I know that automatix will allow you to install skype.  I think there is a Linux version on the skype site too
[10:25] <foutrelis> !beryl | CageX
[10:25] <ubotu> CageX: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:25] <Bakefy> GenNMX, okay.  goodluck with your search, I am sure a product exists I just have not seeen one
[10:25] <gtweedy> hi all
[10:25] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, is it a .deb file? In that case, double-clicking should open an installer.
[10:25] <jrib> !skipe | stonedog
[10:25] <gtweedy> need some help with xorg
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Littlegator> cables: I have them in my icons folder but they didn't work
[10:25] <jrib> !skype | stonedog
[10:25] <ubotu> stonedog: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:25] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: im not sure about 5.10, but you can try something called EasyUbuntu.  It has many codecs which are not free/open source.  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:26] <SmashCat> Looks like amavis-new is the one to use. amavis-ng is a borked package - dunno why it's available really...
[10:26] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, did you try doubleclicking? If that doesn't work, use dpkg -i <pathtopackage>
[10:26] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, is possible somehow talk in privat?
[10:26] <cables> Littlegator, I have no idea
[10:26] <ciplogic> Hi everyone, after upgrade xserver-xorg I've got the error: missing font fixed, which package should I install
[10:26] <ovidijusnorvilas> what is dpkg and where it is?
[10:26] <unop> ] {urgan,  errm, the public internet isnt IPv6 ready as of yet -- so it's quite unlikely -- although some sites are beginning to support IPv6, but to reach them you need a IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel (6over4) at the moment .. so you should probably wait on the IPv6 thing
[10:26] <Littlegator> cables: Do they have to be in folders or directly in the icons folder?
[10:27] <cgeo> guys i have problems loading ubuntu live cd. although it seems to load the gui i cannot see anything. the monitor turns off
[10:27] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, easyubuntu is a bad idea
[10:27] <foutrelis> !dpkg | ovidijusnorvilas
[10:27] <ubotu> ovidijusnorvilas: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:27] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, you should just doubleclick the .deb file you downloaded.
[10:27] <fulhack> Hello. Any ideas on whereabouts I may find help with openLDAP?
[10:27] <ovidijusnorvilas> sorry for questions, but i never use ubuntu or other Linux system
[10:27] <cables> Littlegator, it should be in its own folder
[10:27] <unop> fulhack,  in #ldap
[10:27] <ovidijusnorvilas> ok, I will try send skype
[10:27] <foutrelis> ovidijusnorvilas: You can call it from within a terminal. Also see its man page for usage information
[10:27] <ovidijusnorvilas> again and try instal
[10:27] <Littlegator> cables: Well it's in it's own folder...
[10:28] <babo> does anyone know which mplayer plugins i need to get mplayer to play a straight flv file ?#
[10:28] <] {urgan> unop, but my router at home is an ipcop linux firewall, so if I upgrade it to ipv6 ready, the problem will be solved for inside my network, and I just ahve to make sure that the firewall knows that it's adsl connection is ipv4 only
[10:28] <unop> babo,  it does play .flv files if you have the mplayer-codes or w32codecs installed
[10:28] <cables> Littlegator, check to make sure it's not 2 folders deep...
[10:28] <] {urgan> unop, or is it easier to just modify every one of my internal computers to not use ipv6, well I knwo that would be easier, but it feels slightly hacky! :)
[10:28] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, did you get my PM?
[10:29] <Pie-rate> WTF, ubuntu decided to replace my generic kernel with a 386 one that doesn't support dual core.
[10:29] <leftStanding> hi all, i've searched the forums for awhile, tried out easycam2 loaded up as many modules that bear the ov* moniker, but the /dev/video still reports "no decompressor available", did i miss a step? or is there more to the process?
[10:29] <babo> unop: how can I get the codecs ?
[10:29] <] {urgan> unop, bvesides I'm a geek, one day I might like to try ipv6 (although I dont know what I'd do if I didn't know all the private addressing schemes anymore!
[10:29] <babo> unop: are they in the repos ?
[10:29] <Littlegator> cables: There is the folder, and inside is an index.theme file, and another folder with files in it
[10:29] <unop> !w32codecs | babo
[10:29] <ubotu> babo: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[10:29] <cables> Littlegator, no idea... can't help you. Sorry
[10:30] <lindomar> #patrocinio
[10:31] <unop> ] {urgan,  well, the thing with linux (i hate this one thing about the linux kernel) is that IPv6 lookups are done before IPv4 is tried .. so there's always going to be that delay (which doesnt help your problem now if you keep IPv6) .. but yea, you could use IPv6 for somethings at home, like i do
[10:31] <andatche> is there any reason the ndiswrapper-source file shipped with edgy doesn't include the debian/control file required to build it?
[10:31] <jexdawg> i just installed steam via wine and it froze on me, locked the whole computer, and forced me to physically press the restart button. it loaded back up but now i am missing the "tasks" bar. like, if you minimize this window, it goes to the bottom of the screen ... that bar is gone
[10:31] <babo> unop: will easyubuntu drag them in, without me having to reconfigure the repos ?
[10:31] <ovidijusnorvilas> why I cannot respence in privat?
[10:31] <cables> !easyubuntu | babo
[10:31] <ubotu> babo: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:31] <ovidijusnorvilas> responce
[10:31] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, because you're not registered with NickServ
[10:31] <unop> babo,  errm, i dont know really -- not sure
[10:32] <quaal> anyone know where the picture gets saved when you use firefox to 'set desktop background'
[10:32] <ovidijusnorvilas> how registered?
[10:32] <babo> cables: right, will it bring in the w32codes ?
[10:32] <unop> babo,  best you manually add them in tho
[10:32] <mymymy> hi people. do you know how i can find out if ubuntu is making use of the hardware acceleration of my VGA-Card ?
[10:32] <cables> babo, easyubuntu is a really bad idea.
[10:32] <cables> babo, as is automatix
[10:32] <grimboy> mymymy, glxgears
[10:32] <unop> quaal,  doesnt the gnome-desktop-properties tell you ?
[10:32] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, can you answer my question? Is the file you downloaded from skype.com a .deb file?
[10:32] <ovidijusnorvilas> Cables....how registered here?
[10:32] <Muzik83> quaal: it should be in your home directory (mine is using gnome)
[10:32] <leftStanding> mymymy: another program to try is glxinfo
[10:32] <kinlo> hi, where, do I config the appereance of the "shutdown" button on the quit menu?  I now can only choose between hibernate and suspend... I want shutdown... (ubuntu 6.10)
[10:32] <ovidijusnorvilas> cables, yes. it is  .deb file
[10:32] <foutrelis> mymymy: glxinfo | grep direct
[10:33] <leftStanding> at the top there's a line that spits out if it's using rendering
[10:33] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, double-clicking it didn't work?
[10:33] <unop> ] {urgan,  how much lag do you initially have with these DNS lookups?
[10:33] <quaal> Muzik83, yea you're right
[10:33] <quaal> thanks
[10:33] <mytruehero> I'm having some trouble mounting my secondary harddrive. It's NTFS formatted, and when I type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint" I don't get any errors, but when I try to access /media/mountpoint, I get an error window saying "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mountpoint."" Any idea why that might be happening?
[10:33] <quaal> unop, what is gnome-desktop-properties ?
[10:33] <foutrelis> mymymy: If you get a 'direct rendering: Yes' message then everything is fine :)
[10:33] <ovidijusnorvilas> cables, wait a little
[10:33] <mymymy> grimboy: that shows me some cogwheels
[10:33] <ovidijusnorvilas> I am resending file
[10:33] <cables> ovidijusnorvilas, you mean downloading?
[10:33] <unop> quaal,  it's the utility that pops-up when you right click the desktop and select properties
[10:33] <ovidijusnorvilas> yes
[10:34] <ovidijusnorvilas> redownloading
[10:34] <grimboy> mymymy, Right, but are they skippy?
[10:34] <mymymy> leftstanding, foutrelis: direct rendering: Yes
[10:34] <quaal> unop, hmm i dont have a 'properties' option ?
[10:34] <mymymy> grim: no, they run smoooooothly
[10:34] <quaal> change desktop background only
[10:34] <leftStanding> mymymy: then its working
[10:34] <] {urgan> unop, DNS queries just wouldn't work at all, so using any program, like firefox, or whatver would timeout and fail to connect, as if there was no network.  I always had to use the ping program to ping the gateway, using it's ipaddress.  that would seem to wake it up, but the first ping would always take between 200 and 400ms to return
[10:34] <tier1972> sorry, i dont know how to install a functionating ati driver (open-source or proprietary). only mesa. otherwise the display keeps to be black. i cant switch to console. the grafic is down.
[10:34] <mymymy> leftstanding, foutrelis, grimboy: im asking because firefox renders animates websites (javascript) a lot slower then internet explorer.
[10:35] <mymymy> leftstanding, foutrelis, grimboy: i mean firefox on linux and ie on windows
[10:35] <ChrisH> hi folks, I need some advice on installing the latest ubuntu without using the non-standard kernel
[10:35] <grimboy> mymymy, Firefox doesn't use hardware acceleration.
[10:35] <mymymy> grim: ah ok!
[10:35] <winds_of_change> Hello
[10:35] <grimboy> mymymy, Neither does IE.
[10:36] <mymymy> hehe
[10:36] <] {urgan> unop, as I said I was very confused, however having jsut repowered my desktop, it connected immedietly to everything, so I think that disabling ipv6 seemed to fix it.
[10:36] <foutrelis> grimboy: hmmm.. Is that why firefox on win is more responsive?
[10:36] <tier1972> is a radeon n9600/9700 mobilty. sanybody the same?
[10:36] <ovidijusnorvilas> hmmmm....Muzik, not work
[10:36] <mymymy> grimboy: but firefox renders html animated by javascript a lot slower then ie
[10:36] <stonedog> regarding the Nvidia break due to the kernel update.  Easy way to get the machine back up until we get an updated nvidia module...change the "nvidia" driver option in xorg.conf back to "nv" and presto.
[10:36] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: ok it was worth a try, sorry :p
[10:36] <waterpear> mymymy, that's because firefox is slower than ie
[10:36] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, thank you:)
[10:36] <grimboy> mymymy, Well then that's to do with the speed of the JS virtual machine.
[10:36] <feryana> Hi!
[10:37] <grimboy> mymymy, Which is being rewritten by the way.
[10:37] <andatche> is there any reason the ndiswrapper-source package shipped with edgy doesn't include the debian/control file required to build it?
[10:37] <feryana> I would like to know how can I store song in my iPoD with Linux....
[10:37] <mymymy> grim: yeah, i heard about it.
[10:37] <Music_Shuffle> !ipod | feryana
[10:37] <ubotu> feryana: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[10:37] <mymymy> i hope it will catch up!
[10:37] <] {urgan> unop, Now for my home network, the DNS server is running on the ipcop gateway, so if that actually had an ipv6 address, or responded via the ipv4 tunnel for ipv6, then I figure the dns lookups would work fine, and the gateway itself may experience the delay wheen connecting to the ADSL router, but internal clients would not experience the slowdown
[10:37] <andatche> makes using a custom kernel a bit of a pain
[10:37] <winds_of_change> i'm sorry the question but someone knows why k3b says to me that i don`t have one dvd ... in dvd-rom and in gnome when i put the dvd the ubuntu ask to me if i want to createone cd\dvd
[10:37] <unop> quaal,  n/m, it doesnt do it  .. i thought it might but it doesnt tell you what file is being used
[10:37] <stonedog> peace guys...thanks for the help!
[10:38] <] {urgan> unop, uncidently, the slowdown happened regardless of whether I was trying to get dns info on an internal computer (like my mail server) or for an internet site, didn't seem to matter
[10:38] <mytruehero> I'm having some trouble mounting my secondary harddrive. It's NTFS formatted, and when I type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint" I don't get any errors, but when I try to access /media/mountpoint, I get an error window saying "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mountpoint."" Any idea why that might be happening?
[10:38] <andatche> has anyone got ndiswrapper-source to build using m-a in edgy?
[10:38] <unop> ] {urgan, hmm, probably a DNS server issue in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:38] <tuskernini> Question, is it possible that i can read a USB stick and HDD from my USB and NOT a usbcam?
[10:39] <unop> ] {urgan,  what does a dig or nslookup do then?
[10:39] <sharms> how can I setup ppp to dial another number if the first one fails?
[10:39] <unop> sharms,  errm, how do you start a ppp connection -- do you use a command?
[10:39] <tier1972> join #ubuntu-de
[10:40] <ChrisH> how do you install the standard 6.10 with a non-generic kernel?
[10:40] <] {urgan> unop, I dont think so, the resolv.conf is obviously rewritten by DHCP, and the dns server in it, is the gateway internally (<IP_ADDRESS>).  when I tried dig before, it just hung like all the other applications, like it wasn't getting a response from the dns server
[10:40] <sharms> unop: just a typical setup where I dial my isp
[10:40] <Slart> tuskernini: yes, its very possible.. one is almost standard when it comes to drivers and such.. the other is very special and only works sometimes.. up to you to guess what goes where
[10:40] <unop> mytruehero,  look at the mount man page for issues with the ntfs fs .. or try using the user,uid/gid options with that mount point
[10:40] <mhiku> lol
[10:41] <mhiku> i did got a binary and all work fine
[10:41] <mhiku> hahaha
[10:41] <] {urgan> unop, I'm just trying out my laptop, as I ahven't fixced that yet and it's been off for a few days so should definately exhibit the problem
[10:41] <tuskernini> Slart, but i can read my usb 2.5 hdd and not a cam nor mouse... still normal? i know the cam needs drivers... but the mouse?
[10:41] <Belgain> hi there - quick question: is there any simple way to start a program in such a way that it gets automatically restarted in case it crashes/exits?
[10:42] <Slart> tuskernini: usb mice should work.. unless it's something special about it
[10:42] <tuskernini> Slart, and my other USB port... reads my mouse and cam...
[10:42] <Slart> tuskernini: oh.. well.. that makes it a bit different..
[10:42] <cmt^^> How do I change my $PATH permanently?
[10:42] <antonio__> need help w/ubuntu macintel and sound, running ubuntu 6.10 macbook pro... have tried everything
[10:42] <unop> ] {urgan,  is the DNS server on the same IP subnet as the clients using it?
[10:43] <unop> cmt^^,  add this line to the end of ~/.bashrc -- export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[10:43] <Slart> tuskernini: never seen different kinds of USB ports on a mother board.. they usually all work or noone works
[10:43] <tuskernini> Slart, would that be software? or hardware... because the "weak" usb reads one of my usb keys and usb hdd
[10:43] <cmt^^> thanks unop
[10:43] <winds_of_change> why ubuntu write in the dvd?! only because i make eject grrrrrrrrr i lose one dvd think lol :|
[10:43] <leftStanding> hi all, i've searched the forums for awhile, tried out easycam2 loaded up as many modules that bear the ov* moniker, but the /dev/video still reports "no decompressor available", did i miss a step? or is there more to the process?
[10:43] <feryana> thanks!
[10:43] <winds_of_change> oh no it is here lol this is cruisel mysystem :|
[10:43] <unop> cmt^^,  after that you'll either need to run this -- source ~/.bashrc   or restart the terminal
[10:44] <feryana> and the last question
[10:44] <feryana> how can I open a .rar with Linux?
[10:44] <Hoosteen> hiyas peeps!
[10:44] <Slart> tuskernini: I have no idea what might be wrong... is there a pattern to what works? ie things that need lots of power only works in one port..
[10:44] <] {urgan> unop, yup
[10:44] <tuskernini> Slart, it is an ibm laptop... the bottom one does not read everything... irritating... could it not be usb 2?
[10:44] <jason0_> Anyone know how I can install php-fcgi?
[10:44] <winds_of_change> feryana downloads from rarlabs the command line
[10:44] <jason0_> Can't seem to find it in synaptic
[10:44] <winds_of_change> and folow thereadme instructions
[10:44] <winds_of_change> is easy
[10:44] <feryana> winds_of_change how can I do that?
[10:44] <Slart> tuskernini: well.. I guess you could put 1 usb 1.1 port and 1 usb 2.0 port on the same device.. but it seems kind of odd... the 2.0 ones are backwards compatible after all
[10:44] <tuskernini> Slart, i was thinking something like that... but a usbhdd needs a little power i would guess... atleast as much as a mouse...
[10:45] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, are you here?
[10:45] <Slart> tuskernini: yes.. I would agree.. a hd should need more power than a mouse
[10:45] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: yes but I need to go soon
[10:45] <Wyzard> I just did a clean install of edgy, and when I first log in I get a message saying that the GNOME Settings daemon couldn't be started, and GTK is using the ugly default theme instead of Ubuntu's normal one
[10:45] <tuskernini> Slart, that is what confuses me...
[10:45] <winds_of_change> feryana easy ... go to winrar website and download the rar to linux then just install
[10:45] <feryana> cool
[10:45] <feryana> thanls
[10:45] <winds_of_change> use the unrar or rar
[10:46] <tuskernini> Slart, is it possible for one usb port to need other drivers as the other?
[10:46] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, i download skype  debina file .deb
[10:46] <ovidijusnorvilas> but I cannnot instal it
[10:46] <Slart> tuskernini: perhaps there is someone here that knows all about USB ports, chipsets, drivers and such.. but I'm not that person
[10:46] <ovidijusnorvilas> Because my system read it like archive file
[10:46] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: what does it say if you double click it?
[10:46] <unop> ] {urgan, errm, i cant seem to think of why your linux clients would think the router doesnt exist or take so long to lookup/ping initially .. while the windows clients are ok
[10:46] <] {urgan> unop, dammit, would you believe it, laptop wont do it now..  shoot.
[10:47] <Slart> tuskernini: I guess you could put two different usb chips  on the same motherboard.. it seems dumb.. but such a beast might exist =)
[10:47] <tuskernini> Slart, thank you for the help though... i hope i get this one figured out... dont want to install windows to check if it works there...
[10:47] <unop> ] {urgan,  it could be the router - it's probably biased :)
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> when i open it with doble click
[10:47] <Yodude> hey how do i get theme for my ubuntu dekstop?
[10:47] <feryana> winrar.com?
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> it is open
[10:47] <zOap> what was the name of the gui to control wacom tablets?
[10:47] <Slart> tuskernini: perhaps try booting a live cd or two.. see if it's the same
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> like archive file
[10:47] <feryana> I I dont' find nothing to download
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> and then I can see
[10:47] <unop> ] {urgan,  what wont the laptop do?
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> two files with .gz
[10:47] <tuskernini> Slart, will do... take care
[10:47] <antonio__> need help w/ubuntu macintel and sound, running ubuntu 6.10 macbook pro... have tried everything
[10:47] <ovidijusnorvilas> and third is debian binary
[10:48] <] {urgan> unop, the weird thing is that the router is linux itself, the only other thing I can think of is the wireless access point
[10:48] <feryana> winds_of_change you mean a linux version, or emulate it with wine... I ddo not find linux version
[10:48] <] {urgan> unop, laptop worked fine on first boot :(
[10:48] <antonio__> including compiling alsa
[10:48] <ovidijusnorvilas> but skype is not instaling
[10:48] <mytruehero> I'm having some trouble mounting my secondary harddrive. It's NTFS formatted, and when I type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint" I don't get any errors, but when I try to access /media/mountpoint, I get an error window saying "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mountpoint."" Any idea why that might be happening?
[10:48] <winds_of_change> feryana noooooo winrar have linux software suport
[10:48] <winds_of_change> you are complicate relax
[10:48] <unop> ] {urgan,  so ,.. the linux router connects upto another router/modem ??
[10:48] <EdgEy> mytruehero only root will be able to access the mounted drive if you mount using sudo
[10:49] <feryana> wind_of_change, the page is winrar.com? I dont find nothing
[10:49] <winds_of_change> feryana http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
[10:49] <EdgEy> try man mount, there is an option to set so that all users can access it
[10:49] <feryana> thanks
[10:49] <feryana> again!
[10:49] <mytruehero> EdgEy: Ah, interesting. I will take a look - thanks!
[10:49] <winds_of_change> feryana lol winrar.com is not the winrar software website lol
[10:49] <winds_of_change> :)
[10:49] <unop> mytruehero,  try this command - gksudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser /media/mountpoint
[10:50] <winds_of_change> feryana isyou whith rar and me whith dvds :x lol
[10:50] <feryana> hhahaha winds_of_change I must download de command line one?
[10:50] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: if you right click on the skype file which you downloaded, do you have the option "Install with GDebi Package Installer" ?
[10:51] <feryana> for linux htere is not graphyc
[10:51] <] {urgan> unop, yeh, if you want to know it works kinda co9mplicated, but for various reasons.  I have an ADSL router, that has an ethernet out, and uses the 10.0.0.x/<IP_ADDRESS> ipaddress range.  I have two servers, one of which runs vmware, and under vmware runs an ipcop firewall, which has a 10.0.0.x address, and also a <IP_ADDRESS> address.  The servers both have 192.168.0. addresses as well, and the ipcop firewall provides dhcp addre
[10:51] <] {urgan> sses in the 192.168.0.x range.  Finally there is a wireless access point, currently very poorly placed, as a <IP_ADDRESS> address, which provides access to the internal network.
[10:51] <_Tom_> Hey guys, quick Q
[10:51] <_Tom_> What's the ethos on swap partitions/
[10:51] <_Tom_> *?
[10:51] <antonio__> #list channels
[10:51] <_Tom_> How big should it be?
[10:51] <antonio__> #!ist channels
[10:51] <antonio__> !ist channels
[10:51] <_Tom_> I have 1024MB of system memory.
[10:52] <EdgEy> _Tom_, 1gb should be enough
[10:52] <antonio__> !list channels
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ist channels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list channels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <feryana> winds_of_change is a tar.gz How can I install that with Dapper?
[10:52] <winds_of_change> feryana no is not but automatic the file compression detect the rar ... unless havepassword thefile ... but it is easy to useit the command line after install ... just type  unrar x "file_1.rar"
[10:52] <_Tom_> Ok thanks :)
[10:52] <cafuego_> _Tom_: Up to around 1 GB *or* amountof ram + around 256Mb if you want to do hibernation (laptop)
[10:52] <] {urgan> unop, so essentially I have a Green Network, containing all my servers and workstations, and a red network which is only used by the ADSL router and the ipcop firewall.
[10:52] <feryana> winds_of_change I've download a tar.gz.  How can I install that with Dapper?
[10:53] <_Tom_> cafuego_: No, no hibernation :)
[10:53] <unop> ] {urgan,  whoa, you've got many layers of indirection there , it's probably working against you -- do the DNS and routing servers (linux) run in VMWare too?
[10:53] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, i have not this funktion
[10:53] <winds_of_change> feryana uncompress the software and run the  sudo ./Makefile
[10:53] <Math^> hello, I want to try the new Ubuntu: Feisty Fawn, but does it matter when I install the CD that I donwloaded a few months ago? Or is it better to download a new CD again...??
[10:53] <cafuego_> _Tom_: a gb will be fine then
[10:53] <mytruehero> EdgEy: I put "/dev/sdb1       /media/320_internal     ntfs    rw,user,auto" in my fstab, then did "sudo mount -a", but I'm getting the same error message when I try to access the folder
[10:53] <] {urgan> unop, I want to put the wireless into the red network and then use my VPN to get inside my network, meaning that wardrivers can only get out to internet and not in to internal network.
[10:53] <_Tom_> cafuego_: Any difference on having the swap parition at the beginning or the end of the drive?
[10:53] <feryana> thanks :)
[10:53] <winds_of_change> feryana you need to make this file execuatble 1
[10:53] <unop> winds_of_change,  eh, a Makefile should be run by make -- maybe you mean ./configure instead ?
[10:54] <winds_of_change> np you are wellcome :)
[10:54] <cafuego_> _Tom_: nominally yes, slightly faster at one of those locations. But I can't remember which.
[10:54] <winds_of_change> unop no is one script that cames whith winrar linux command line ... to install
[10:54] <andatche> why does ubuntu have so many broken packages in the repo?
[10:54] <_Tom_> cafuego_: Hehe, ok. I'll go find a google link.
[10:54] <mytruehero> unop: My computer doesn't like that command, for some reason
[10:54] <Math^> hello, I want to try the new Ubuntu: Feisty Fawn, but does it matter when I install the CD that I donwloaded a few months ago? Or is it better to download a new CD again...??
[10:54] <andatche> and they never seem to be fixed
[10:54] <Muzik83> ovidijusnorvilas: go to a command prompt... choose "Applications" then "Accessories" then "Terminal"
[10:55] <bronze> anyone know why irssi doesn't work?
[10:55] <EdgEy> Math^, is the cd 6.10
[10:55] <andatche> ndisrwapper-source has been broken since the release of edgy and no one has bothered to fix it
[10:55] <] {urgan> unop, The system should work fine, and as I said everything works fine for windows clients.  I know it's complicated, but I've seen managed more complicated networks before
[10:55] <unop> winds_of_change, i'm quite sure you want to use make there not ./Makefile
[10:55] <vladuz976> when i startx i just get a blank screen. i see the nvidia logo after that just turns black. what could be the problem? where can i look for error logs?
[10:55] <Math^> EdgEy: the CD is version 7.04
[10:55] <unop> mytruehero,  any errors?
[10:55] <EdgEy> Math^, i think downloading the new cd would be better, it's not big
[10:55] <ovidijusnorvilas> Muzik, problem is that in accesories system is not Terminal
[10:56] <winds_of_change> unop yes but i'm not talking about the software source the rar don`t have source release i think ...
[10:56] <ovidijusnorvilas> hmm...........
[10:56] <mytruehero> unop: gksudo: unrecognized option `--no-desktop'
[10:56] <Math^> EdgEy: ok, I thougt maybe it will download the new updates automatacly
[10:56] <unop> ] {urgan,  i'm not so familiar with the colours with ipcop .. what i want to know is whether you run the router and DNS server in VMWare
[10:56] <EdgEy> Math^,  possibly but it may not update correctly
[10:56] <Math^> hmmk
[10:56] <Math^> :)
[10:56] <unop> winds_of_change,  a makefile does not have to be just for source code .. it could exist for binary installs too
[10:57] <ricardo_> hola
[10:57] <gaten> im having problems w/ my menu bar. It's all being slowly squished over to the right side. the "Applications", "Places" and "System" menues are squished next to the clock and I can't move them. can anyone tell me how to get them back on the left side?
[10:57] <] {urgan> unop, er, yeh pretty much, the DNS, DHCP and routing is all done by the vmware ipcop system
[10:57] <ovidijusnorvilas> then how update ubuntu?
[10:57] <feryana> winds_of_change , I always have problems with tar.gz
[10:57] <ricardo_> alguien habla espaol
[10:57] <winds_of_change> unop that it :) that the file that came to install :)
[10:57] <unop> winds_of_change,  IIRC, if you want rar support -- file-roller and xarchiver support it if you have the rar and unrar packages installed
[10:57] <feryana> winds_of_change , I uncompressed it to a folder and I'm in the console in that folder, but it saids "command not found"
[10:57] <mytruehero> When I do "df", it shows that the drive is mounted, and from the "used" and "available" columns I can tell that it's the right drive
[10:57] <robbie_crash> I've got a weird Azureus problem and the guys in Azureus help said try here instead of in there, it loads up, everything goes green, connects to peers, but won't download for longer than about 5 minutes. I'm using Edgy, GIJ for java (sun causes Azureus to crash right after launch), and port 49126 which is forwarded on my router and added to my iptables as usauble
[10:58] <robbie_crash> *useable
[10:58] <] {urgan> unop, I did wonder if it might be the vmware network driver, a definate possiblity, but then I'd assume it would affect all network traffic, not just network traffic coming from linux machines
[10:58] <Pie-rate> what is the point of the bot? in my opinion, its stupid. it spams the channel with quite often useless information. if everyone knew how to use it responsibly it might be ok, but no one actually does.
[10:58] <unop> ] {urgan,  see, that could be a problem -- the vmware layer is probably working against you -- is vmware running in windows?
[10:58] <Math^> so EdgEy: is there some way to install 7.04 from usb-stick?
[10:58] <ricardo_> HOLA
[10:58] <EdgEy> Math^,  no clue
[10:58] <bimberi> gaten: you might have to right-click->unlock some of the other items in order to move it
[10:58] <mytruehero> unop: Do I have the right command in my fstab?
[10:59] <Math^> anybody know how to install ubuntu from an usb-stick?
[10:59] <] {urgan> unop, no, I try to avoid running windows where possible.  All machines are running on linux as a base system
[10:59] <winds_of_change> unop rar gui that good to :)
[10:59] <unop> ] {urgan,  i think it's an arp issue with the VMWare network interfaces .. perhaps they arent responding to arp requests on time
[10:59] <bimberi> !install | Math^
[10:59] <ubotu> Math^: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:59] <gaten> bimberi:  ok ty
[10:59] <crimson> hEY
[10:59] <crimson> oops caps lock
[11:00] <_Tom_> I guess so long as it's bootable on your system, Math^, you could install Ubuntu from a usb stick.
[11:00] <unop> mytruehero,  errm, try this instead -- sudo sh -c "nautilus --no-desktop --browser /media/mountpoint"
[11:00] <unop> mytruehero, well, run this command and well determine what to do in /etc/fstab next
[11:00] <feryana> winds_of_change is sudo ./Makefile ? it doesn't work
[11:00] <winds_of_change> feryana open your command line go to whereyou extract the rar and just  chmod +x Makefile  and then sudo ./Makefile
[11:01] <feryana> ok
[11:01] <Pie-rate> has the azureus notification area icon been fixed on edgy or do i still need to find a different repository for it?
[11:01] <mytruehero> unop: That opened it up, though it gave the warning "libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Failed to open session DBUS connection: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. Volume monitoring will not work." But, it did open the drive.
[11:01] <unop> winds_of_change,  errm, i think you should read the install instructions in INSTALL or README first -- Makefiles are generally not self-executing scripts and require make to run them
[11:01] <robbie_crash> Pie-rate: azureus doesn't show in my tray on edgy
[11:01] <] {urgan> unop, well the ipv6 issue seems to have fixed it at the moment, we'l see how it works over next day or two.  It hasn't really been a problem for me, as I'm happy to ping the server if something isn't working, but my wifes windows installation broke, and I couldn;t find the windows discs, so I installed ubuntu 6.10 on her laptop, and she wont do that, so I'm under instructions to fix it
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 8: install:: command not found
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 9: PREFIX: command not found
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 10: PREFIX: command not found
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 11: PREFIX: command not found
[11:02] <feryana> ./Makefile: line 13: PREFIX: command not found
[11:02] <unop> mytruehero,  and you see all your contents?
[11:02] <unop> winds_of_change,  see ^^
[11:02] <winds_of_change> unop works for me if you got some bether idea just take the user and say it :) i'm just try to help
[11:02] <mytruehero> unop: yes
[11:02] <unop> !worksforme | winds_of_change
[11:02] <ubotu> winds_of_change: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[11:02] <LjL> !paste > feryana    (feryana, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:02] <Pie-rate> robbie_crash: ok, ty. i'll find the one that works again then
[11:02] <feryana> Ok Sry
[11:02] <] {urgan> unop, anyway you've been a great help, if I still have problems, I'll read up on arp, as I understnad what it is, but know nothing about how its implemented or possible issues with it
[11:02] <unop> feryana,  do you have a INSTALL or README file in that directory?
[11:03] <feryana> i do
[11:03] <feryana> readme
[11:03] <unop> feryana,  check it out, it probably has instructions on how to install
[11:03] <feryana> on;ly explains
[11:03] <Pie-rate> robbie_crash: http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/azureus-edgy/ contains the working ones
[11:03] <feryana> what is rar
[11:03] <robbie_crash> thanks
[11:03] <] {urgan> feryana, an archive format, like zip or tar.
[11:03] <unop> ] {urgan,  you're welcome :)
[11:03] <Math^> ive got some problem, I cant read my mail in thunderbird
[11:04] <Math^> it crashes
[11:04] <unop> feryana,  ok, run this command - make
[11:04] <Math^> when clicking on a mail
[11:04] <VividHazE> hey can anyone help me its really simple but i'm stupid. I'm trying to change permissions on my scanner so I can use it, its already setup, I found instructions to find out what number to put at the end of this: sudo chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/001/002 but it was for Ubuntu not Kubuntu which I have and I can't figure it out
[11:04] <winds_of_change> ubotu yes but ... if i'm using ubuntu and works fine in ubuntu ... what the problem?! lol :)
[11:04] <feryana> ok
[11:04] <VividHazE> is there a command I can put in to find out, or someone tell me the menu in kubuntu to go to?
[11:04] <feryana> I did that
[11:04] <_Tom_> If I format my / as ReiserFS .. Is there a stable windows driver to access the files stored?
[11:04] <feryana> and now?
[11:04] <unop> feryana,  and what's happening?
[11:04] <Math^> the message thunderbird gave: Segment fault (core dumped)
[11:05] <apecat> winds_of_change: ubotu is a bot ;)
[11:05] <Math^> I only can read my email again with sudo
[11:05] <unop> feryana,  or if it finished, what happened?
[11:05] <winds_of_change> lollllll i mean unop :)
[11:05] <moreati> _Tom_: no, there is a program called e2explore for ext2/3
[11:05] <andre> !nvidia9
[11:05] <feryana> unop
[11:05] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[11:05] <feryana> it just gave me commands
[11:05] <feryana> gonna paste
[11:05] <VividHazE> anyone help me?
[11:06] <cafuego_> _Tom_: If you can, ditch reiserfs and go for ext3.
[11:06] <apecat> winds_of_change: heh, k. but the problem is that providing support for stuff that isn't official packages is harder
[11:06] <robbie_crash> VividHazE: try joining #kubuntu
[11:06] <VividHazE> lol ok thanks
[11:06] <feryana> unop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5317/
[11:06] <robbie_crash> no problem
[11:07] <unop> winds_of_change,  that was me who got the bot to tell you that -- if something works for you, it does not mean it works for someone else .. your experiences, system setup, etc are probably not what a new user has -- and are you going to support the user over the lifetime of the configuration you suggest?
[11:07] <feryana> I've got that
[11:07] <winds_of_change> apecat ok so other time i send to rar channel :) o0 0o
[11:07] <_Tom_> cafuego_: I was under the impression ReiserFS was better than ext3?
[11:07] <robbie_crash> I've got a weird Azureus problem and the guys in Azureus help said try here instead of in there, it loads up, everything goes green, connects to peers, but won't download for longer than about 5 minutes. I'm using Edgy, GIJ for java (sun causes Azureus to crash right after launch), and port 49126 which is forwarded on my router and added to my iptables as usauble
[11:07] <unop> feryana,  ok, thats installed it now -- type this out -- which rar; which unrar
[11:08] <cafuego_> _Tom_: It's better than a garbage disposal, but only marginally.
[11:08] <_Tom_> I know you can access ext2 from Windows, and ext3 (albeit from as ext2, so no journaling)
[11:08] <LjL> _Tom_: if it was all the way better, everyone would be using it instead of ext3, no? ;-) they both have advantages and disadvantages. ext3 is possibly more robust
[11:08] <feryana> /usr/local/bin/rar
[11:08] <feryana> /usr/local/bin/unrar
[11:08] <_Tom_> Righty, ok.
[11:08] <_Tom_> I'll stick with what I know
[11:08] <feryana> Unop so know if I double click a rar
[11:08] <feryana> it opens?
[11:08] <quaal> is there any windows app that will allow me to read and/or write to a linux ext3 partition ?
[11:08] <LjL> !ext3 > quaal    (quaal, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:08] <unop> winds_of_change,  feryana was supposed to run make not ./Makefile -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5317/
[11:08] <cafuego_> _Tom_: The main problem with reiser is that the recovery tools are either extremely immature or non-existent.
[11:09] <unop> feryana,  errm, try it out
[11:09] <robbie_crash> quaal: google ext windows
[11:09] <quaal> oh
[11:09] <quaal> awesome thanks LjL
[11:09] <robbie_crash> it's the first link
[11:09] <feryana> Unop I Open the file and appears empty
[11:09] <winds_of_change> unop look just download the software ... and check the Makefile code
[11:09] <cafuego_> quaal: Yes, there is a think called 'ifs driver' or somesuch that assigns drive letters to ext2/ext3 partitions.
[11:09] <LjL> quaal: take robbie's advice too, both "ext3 windows" and "ext2 windows", there are some other possibilities too (including a program that doesn't install itself as a filesystem driver)
[11:10] <quaal> awesome
[11:10] <quaal> thanks guys
[11:10] <andre> !nvidia9
[11:10] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[11:10] <LjL> cafuego_: "IFS driver" is the general term for a "filesystem handler" under Windows
[11:10] <feryana> Unop I can open it but I seems that the files are empty
[11:10] <LjL> Installable File System, i think the acronym is
[11:10] <_Tom_> cafuego_: I see, well, I'm going to stick to ext3.
[11:10] <cafuego_> LjL: Aha! You're an MCSE! ;-)
[11:10] <unop> feryana,  ok, these utils you downloaded seem to be command line utilities -- try unraring the file from the command line -- unrar /path/to/file.rar
[11:10] <_Tom_> I know of quite a few apps that can utilise ext2/3 from Windows.
[11:10] <LjL> cafuego_: nah, i just use wikipedia too often :P
[11:10] <_Tom_> As I'm dual-booting, it's quite handy.
[11:10] <feryana> ok
[11:11] <cafuego_> www.fs-driver.org is the url, quaal/_Tom_
[11:11] <robbie_crash> ext2 ifs has always worked well for me,
[11:11] <unop> winds_of_change,  i'm not going to argue more -- ./Makefile is not a bash script, its a makefile  that make is supposed to run, and in this case, that was just what was needed
[11:11] <andre> hey guys how do I install the nvidia drivers from the repo mentioned in !nvidia9's restricted?
[11:11] <LjL> !software > andre    (andre, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:12] <feryana> empty again aww
[11:12] <LjL> andre: just add the line to your /etc/apt/sources.list, do an apt-get update, and an apt-get upgrade
[11:12] <feryana> I hate rars
[11:12] <feryana> I always did
[11:12] <Lucifel> Is there a reliable means of mounting NTFS volumes as writable?
[11:12] <feryana> xD
[11:12] <root__> hi
[11:12] <feryana> with all files
[11:12] <feryana> well... I must go
[11:12] <cafuego_> Lucifel: Use windows+samba
[11:12] <feryana> I'll check later
[11:12] <robbie_crash> Lucifel: No.
[11:12] <feryana> thanks a lot
[11:12] <bur[n] er> !ntfs-3g | Lucifel
[11:12] <ubotu> Lucifel: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:12] <winds_of_change> unop so why do you think i say to make the file executable ...?! ok whatever we arehereall for the same ubuntu :)
[11:12] <unop> feryana,  are you sure that was a .rar file .. is it an empty file (check filesize) ..
[11:12] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: ntfs-3g is hardly reliable
[11:12] <admin___> does cron run the cron.daily or does it not run because anacron is there
[11:12] <feryana> unop 64MB
[11:13] <admin___> im looking at the command ands it says only RUN if anacron permission is not executable..
[11:13] <andre> LjL after that I do what?  apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[11:13] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: a week or two ago someone used to to completely trash his windows install by just mounting it.
[11:13] <LjL> andre: if you didn't have a version of it installed before, yes
[11:13] <unop> winds_of_change,  heh, you seriously have no clue about makefiles, do you?
[11:13] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: live on channel, even
[11:13] <bur[n] er> cafuego_: has worked here for about 3 weeks
[11:13] <lineman60> anyone here can help me with an intermintn wireless connection, i am running NDIS on UBuntu 64,
[11:13] <andre> LjL great :)
[11:13] <LjL> winds_of_change: what's the link to this amazing makefile that executes from bash?
[11:13] <unop> feryana,  well, did unrar give you any output?
[11:14] <lineman60> what wireless util are you useing?
[11:14] <_Tom_> I'm still none the wiser (after googling) as to whether it's better to have my swap partition in the middle, or at the end of the disk.
[11:14] <Lucifel> ahh, 3g is the way to go eh
[11:14] <Lucifel> Thank you
[11:14] <_Tom_> With regards to speed.
[11:14] <cafuego_> _Tom_: I'd plonk it at the end
[11:14] <admin___> HEllo all how can i tell if anacron is listening i did a ps -ef
[11:14] <admin___> HEllo all how can i tell if anacron is listening i did a ps -ef
[11:14] <_Tom_> Just what I was hoping you'd say :)
[11:14] <admin___> erk
[11:14] <admin___> sorry
[11:14] <cafuego_> _Tom_: prevents boot issues on broken bioses
[11:14] <admin___> ps -ef | grep anacron and nothing appears.
[11:14] <dsquare> hi trying to configure dual desktops and my display has gone a bit funny. im sure i followed the big desktop instructions perfectly. first can someone just tell me the command to edit xorg.conf?
[11:14] <bur[n] er> Lucifel: i'd say ext3 with fs-driver for windows is the way to go..
[11:14] <dsquare> !ubot xorg.conf
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubot xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <LjL> _Tom_: uhm, not at the end i say (sorry cafuego), because normally the end of the drive is slower (well, actually the *beginning* is slower, but it usually gets mapped to the end, logically)
[11:15] <luke_> Hi everyone. I am VERY new to Linux and Ubuntu. After upgrading to the kernel version 11 my wireless card does not work. It works fine under kernel version 10. I have been trying to use a solution from the forum (entering a lot of commands in the terminal), it works - but only until reboot. Can anyone help me?
[11:15] <winds_of_change> LjL is just one file that cames whith winrar ro linux that after put it in executable mode install the winrar and works fine nathing special
[11:15] <LjL> _Tom_: center is probably a nice position, since on average head movements will be minimized. i have it at the beginning, though
[11:15] <unop> LjL,  i think that makefile is in here (i'm checking it out too) - http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.7.b1.tar.gz
[11:15] <LjL> winds_of_change: winrar? on linux?
[11:15] <LjL> is there a winrar for linux?
[11:15] <admin___> anyone?
[11:15] <admin___> LjL: there is a command line utility for rar
[11:15] <admin___> that i use all the time
[11:15] <Hattori> i get permission denied while doing: echo '#!/bin/sh' >> /etc/rc.local
[11:15] <Hattori> any clue?
[11:15] <LjL> that's quite different
[11:16] <unop> LjL,  no, its the same command line utils from the rar and unrar ubuntu packages
[11:16] <winds_of_change> the rar to linux is from winrar don`t? o0 0o
[11:16] <bur[n] er> admin___: ps ax |grep cron
[11:16] <jpp> Hello -- does anyone have a minute to help me try to figure out an issue I'm having with the 9746 nVidia driver?  I'm very new to Linux, but I've been reading everything I can find on this driver and I've got nothing...
[11:16] <cafuego_> yes, that's 'unrar-nonfree', now 'unrar'.
[11:16] <HymnToLife> LjL, no, but a tool to manage RAR archives created by the developpers of winrar
[11:16] <Thug-N-Me> please someone help me getting rid of this error while i try to burn dvd data with nautilus burn " Some files don't have a suitable name for a Windows-compatible CD.Do you want to continue with Windows compatibility disabled?
[11:16] <LjL> Hattori: yes, i have a clue -- but why in the world are you doing that command?
[11:16] <dsquare> what is the location of xorg.conf please?
[11:16] <Thug-N-Me> how do i enable it ?
[11:16] <HymnToLife> dsquare, /etc/X11
[11:16] <winds_of_change> ok forget ... gona try to save my dvd this is giving me problems stranges lol
[11:16] <mytruehero> unop: Any clues as to how I messed up my fstab? ;)
[11:16] <jpp> I have my nvidia-bug-report log if that helps?
[11:16] <dsquare> ty HymnToLife :)
[11:16] <Thug-N-Me> i
[11:16] <Hattori> LjL: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:LEKW5afa_rgJ:www.astars.org/modules/articles/article.php%3Fid%3D28+pureftpd+add+user&hl=it&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=it
[11:16] <Mandrill> can anyone reccommend a way to automate basic system operations (restart, login, update etc)? I want my other monitor back on my main machine. more complex stuff I can do remotely.
[11:16] <admin___> bur[n] er: does cron.daily not run if anacron is there and is executable by crontab.. i see the || so im guessing anacron takes care of everything..
[11:17] <Lucifel> bur[n] er, the problem is that I have several large NTFS volumes that are nigh on full and Windows refuses to play nicely on this box
[11:17] <bur[n] er> jpp: using the beta drivers from a .deb?
[11:17] <Thug-N-Me> ikonia  Some files don't have a suitable name for a Windows-compatible CD.Do you want to continue with Windows compatibility disabled?
[11:17] <Hattori> LjL: for pureftpd installation
[11:17] <LjL> winds_of_change, if  http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.7.b1.tar.gz is the archive you have in mind, then that makefile is definitely *NOT* meeant to be executed. it's a normal makefile. you just run "make".
[11:17] <luke_> Can anyone please help me with my wireless card under kernel 11?
[11:17] <robbie_crash> Thug-N-Me: you need to rename the files, or burn with Windows compatability disabled.
[11:17] <unop> mytruehero,  can you !pastebin your /etc/fstab file please
[11:17] <bur[n] er> Lucifel: i'd find another drive to move to temporarily so you can format ext3 and move it back if it was data I cared about instead of using ntfs-3g
[11:17] <jpp> burner:  installed the .run file from nvidia's website -- also attempted to use envy and automatix 2 -- both on fresh installs.
[11:17] <Mandrill> !automate | mandrill
[11:18] <LjL> Hattori, i see, but that's totally unnecessary under Ubuntu, since /etc/rc.local *already* exists, and you certainly don't want to add #!/bin/(sh at the *end* of it
[11:18] <Thug-N-Me> robbie_crash i just hit enter and burn it .. it will crash and i the dvd blank its lost :(
[11:18] <unop> LjL,  the magic makefile :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5320/
[11:18] <mytruehero> unop: I've heard of pastebins before, but, is there a fast way to do it from the terminal?
[11:18] <bur[n] er> jpp: try the .deb from the wiki page on beryl
[11:18] <unop> !pastebin
[11:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:18] <Hattori> LjL: ok. so how should i start the pureftpd then?
[11:18] <Thug-N-Me> robbie_crash already lost 3 dvds .. just because of that ...
[11:18] <Lucifel> bur[n] er, I've been trying to figure a way to do that but I can't come up with the space and I'm on a time crunch
[11:18] <eternaljoy> if I intstall xbuntu, can I ipgrade it to Ubuntu?
[11:18] <britt> yes
[11:18] <unop> mytruehero,  cat /etc/fstab -- select and paste ...
[11:18] <winds_of_change> LjL well i think so ...
[11:18] <Lucifel> I may just put some other quickfix together to get work done until i can shuffle the data over to etx3
[11:18] <britt> eternaljoy: yes you can
[11:19] <winds_of_change> LjL ok
[11:19] <LjL> Hattori: don't know, maybe - personally i wouldn't install an FTP server from anywhere that's not an Ubuntu repository, anyway
[11:19] <bur[n] er> Lucifel: your call man... but if you lose everything using ntfs-3g, dont' say you weren't warned... it works here, but that's not to say it will there
[11:19] <cafuego_> Hattori: Just install the package and use its init script or inetd.
[11:19] <bimberi> eternaljoy: yes (but that would be a downgrade ;-) ) - install ubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <LjL> winds_of_change: well you're wrong. it clearly doesn't contain a shell script
[11:19] <mytruehero> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5321/
[11:19] <eternaljoy> britt: because I have the xbuntu on DVD, so saves me downloading the whole ubuntu
[11:19] <britt> eternaljoy: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[11:19] <eternaljoy> bimberi: so once I install xubutnu, I install ubuntu-desktop?
[11:19] <eternaljoy> will it then be as the same as ubuntu?
[11:20] <britt> i actually went from ubuntu->kubuntu
[11:20] <_Tom_> Ok, so I've just setup my partitions (/boot, swap and /) .. Should I be applying the boot flag to the /boot partition?
[11:20] <Lucifel> bur[n] er, I hear ya, I certainly don't want this sort of fix for the long term
[11:20] <britt> and then ubuntu->xubuntu on my mythtv box
[11:20] <eternaljoy> britt: is Kubuntu better than ubuntu?>
[11:20] <Lucifel> Thank you for your help
[11:20] <cafuego_> _Tom_: Nah, Linux doesn't care about boot flags.
[11:20] <_Tom_> Bonza
[11:20] <bimberi> eternaljoy: yes, although it will still have the xubuntu-desktop packages there
[11:20] <britt> eternaljoy: personal preference
[11:20] <_Tom_> Thanks :)
[11:20] <cafuego_> _Tom_: it will be booted from the MBR
[11:20] <eternaljoy> bimberi: how can I get rid of the xubuntu-desktop packages?
[11:21] <Thug-N-Me> still no one knows how to enable Windows compatibility for nautilus burn
[11:21] <britt> eternaljoy: 'sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop'
[11:21] <luke_> Does anyone have time to help me, please? I can not get my wireless car to work under kernel 11
[11:21] <LjL> eternaljoy: sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop, if you're under Edgy
[11:21] <bimberi> eternaljoy: look, no need for me to reply :) (see britt)
[11:22] <jpp> burner:  you referring to the instructions here:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia   ?
[11:22] <eternaljoy> LjL: cheers
[11:22] <eternaljoy> LjL: is Xbuntu edgy?
[11:22] <beoba> ISDN
[11:22] <LjL> eternaljoy: ?
[11:22] <o_0> hello
[11:22] <britt> eternaljoy: they are all edgy
[11:22] <bur[n] er> jpp: do they have a link to the .deb of the nvidia beta drivers by lupine?
[11:22] <bur[n] er> jpp: if so, yes ;)
 eternaljoy: sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop, if you're under Edgy <-- "IF" im under Edgy?  isnt Xbuntu Edgy?
[11:23] <britt> the xubuntu, ubuntu, and kubuntu are subsets of edgy
[11:23] <LjL> eternaljoy: Xubuntu is the Ubuntu flavor that comes with Xfce instead of GNOME. "Edgy" is the latest release of Ubuntu (and Xubuntu and Kubuntu etc).
[11:23] <LjL> !edgy > eternaljoy    (eternaljoy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:23] <bimberi> eternaljoy: if your DVD has 6.10 on it, that's Edgy
[11:23] <o_0> i am having a hell of a time getting my wifi up i am using edgy 64-bit, and have followed a few different guides to no avail, my nic is a bcm43xx
[11:23] <tritium_> britt: not exactly
[11:23] <o_0> bcm4313 to be exact
[11:23] <dammitman> how do i install drivers in ubuntu? can anyone help me plz?
[11:23] <LjL> eternaljoy: you can have Xubuntu Dapper and Xubuntu Breezy etc.
[11:23] <stylee> hello, can I run programs designed for windows on ubuntu?
[11:23] <eternaljoy> bimberi: the DVD says 6.10 Xbuntu
[11:23] <LjL> !wine > stylee    (stylee, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:23] <unop> mytruehero,  errm, do you run 64bit ubuntu?
[11:23] <LjL> !virtualizers > stylee    (stylee, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:24] <bimberi> eternaljoy: there you are then. you have Edgy :)
[11:24] <winds_of_change> LjL look if you gotsome bether idea who to do it ok ... but ... works here the way i say ,,,
[11:24] <eternaljoy> LjL: my DVD says 6.10 Xbuntu!  can I install that and then install ubuntu-desktop.  And will that be the latest stable version?
[11:24] <eternaljoy> bimberi: is having Edgy good or bad?
[11:24] <LjL> winds_of_change: the "better idea" is *typing the command  make *, as with every Makefile on earth. you surely know what a Makefile is?
[11:25] <winds_of_change> the persons just ask and i just say like i ussually do it here is asking tome so i aswnserlike i can help the way i can help
[11:25] <mytruehero> unop: Heh, I don't think so
[11:25] <unop> mytruehero,  here's the correction .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5324/  .. make sure you use your UID and GID numbers here (they can be retrived by using the id command)
[11:25] <winds_of_change> that why i say to the man or woman
[11:25] <jpp> Burner:  :)  yes indeed, I want to say that was the first or second thing I tried, but I can give it another run -- I've had the exact same problem each time, and looking at my nvidia error log, it appears to be an issue with ACPI or APIC -- but I just am not familiar enough with the log to pinpoint what's up.
[11:25] <winds_of_change> if you think you can help her bether then me just ok take the user
[11:25] <winds_of_change> and he take the user
[11:25] <bimberi> eternaljoy: it's that latest version. 'good or bad' depends on your experience with it I guess.  I'm happy with it myself
[11:25] <winds_of_change> and i shut up
[11:25] <unop> mytruehero, errm, why dont you get this ntfs-3g then
[11:25] <winds_of_change> but now please  ... gibe me a break
[11:25] <unop> !ntfs-3g | mytruehero
[11:25] <ubotu> mytruehero: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:25] <stylee> Thanke you :)
[11:25] <LostWireless> Does anyone have experience with loosing their wireless card after upgrading Ubuntu?
[11:25] <ShadoWindNinj4> I'm trying to get a webserver going here. I have two twenty scsi disks to play with. I've never actually used that type of hard drive before. . . Anyway. I was trying to go for a secure setup and which partitions would be benificial to put on which disk out of : /, /root, /tmp, swap, /boot, /var, /usr, /home. Am I missing any? What's this /bind I've been hearing about.?
[11:25] <eternaljoy> bimberi: ok! I thought Edgy was an beta version
[11:25] <ShadoWindNinj4> hello 8 )
[11:26] <LjL> winds_of_change: well, no advice is better than ill advice. you adviced to run Makefile as if it were a shell script, and *using sudo*. that's terribly dangerous. it's totally, absolutely dangerous. perhaps with that specific Makefile you won't do any damage, but you will in general.
[11:26] <tritium_> LostWireless: yeah, but then I found it.  I had placed it in a drawer.
[11:26] <eternaljoy> bimberi: so installing the Xbuntu 6.10 and then installing gnome-desktop, would be the same as downliading and installing 6.10 Ubuntu?
[11:26] <bimberi> eternaljoy: it's the latest stable version.  The current working version (in apha) is Feisty (7.04)
[11:26] <mytruehero> unop: that works beautifully. thanks so much for the help!
[11:27] <bur[n] er> eternaljoy: no... installing "ubuntu-desktop" would be the same
[11:27] <mega_fauna> Hi, can someone please help me with a boot problem?
[11:27] <bimberi> eternaljoy: yes, although you will still have the xubuntu-desktop packages (as mentioned) also the package is 'ubuntu-desktop'
[11:27] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: I meant to say :) so installing the Xbuntu 6.10 and then installing ubuntu-desktop, would be the same as downliading and installing 6.10 Ubuntu?
[11:27] <dammitman> can anyone help me install a wireless adapter driver, need help.
[11:27] <unop> mytruehero,  you can install the ntfs-3g thing to get write access to ntfs -- :) i thought you had 64bit linux before and didnt suggest it earlier, i would have had i known you run 32bit
[11:28] <LjL> eternaljoy: no, because you'll have the Xubuntu packages installed in addition to the Ubuntu packages, which plain Ubuntu doesn't have.
[11:28] <eternaljoy> bimberi: yes but when I remove the xubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <bimberi> eternaljoy: yes
[11:28] <eternaljoy> LjL: but after installing ubuntu-desktop, i will remove the xubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <LjL> eternaljoy: i hardly think that removing xubuntu-desktop will suffice
[11:28] <eternaljoy> bimberi: ok cheers
[11:28] <bur[n] er> eternaljoy: it won't remove everything that xfce has... you woul dhave to go through and remove thunar, xfdesktop, xf*
[11:28] <winds_of_change> LjL ok ...
[11:28] <eternaljoy> LjL: so what shall I do?
[11:28] <bimberi> LjL: autoremove ?
[11:29] <bur[n] er> autoremove won't do it either...
[11:29] <eternaljoy> LjL: doesnt sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop  remove everything?
[11:29] <bur[n] er> nope
[11:29] <bimberi> bur[n] er: ah
[11:29] <LjL> bimberi: right, but i'm not sure that with the "default" metapackage (xubuntu-desktop in this case), autoremove will do the job
[11:29] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: why not?
[11:29] <unop> winds_of_change,  its not just that -- when i asked you whether you were sure about "sudo ./Makefile" you said it "works for me" .. but it couldnt have and you continued asserting that you were right .. its better to admit you dont know what the right way to do something is, especially when you suggest a sudo command to some helpless person
[11:29] <britt> ive DONE autoremove
[11:29] <britt> and i have everything ok
[11:29] <bur[n] er> xubuntu-desktop also depends on ubuntu-minimal... you wouldn't want to remove that!  and xubuntu-desktop depends on a kernel... need that still
[11:29] <leftStanding> need help with ov518+ webcam
[11:29] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: will it harm it if the xfce stays on system?
[11:29] <bur[n] er> xubuntu-desktop installs everytying in xfce, but uninstalling it only uninstalls the meta package
[11:30] <bur[n] er> eternaljoy: nope
[11:30] <LjL> bimberi: at least, with aptitude it wouldn't - which is because if it did, it would ask you to remove just about your entire system when you remove one package that's depended upon by the -desktop package.
[11:30] <bur[n] er> :)
[11:30] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: because I have the xbuntunu DVD, so im trying to save time downloading ubuntu
[11:30] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: know what I mean?
[11:30] <LjL> bur[n] er: actually, i thought the kernel wasn't depended upon by anything...?
[11:30] <jpp> burner:  is there anything I need to do before trying the deb file -- I don't really understand the whole driver system, so I don't know what to expect having just installed the official package
[11:30] <bimberi> LjL: ah, kk, thanks
[11:31] <bur[n] er> eternaljoy: go for it
[11:31] <LjL> bur[n] er: but still, if you install ubuntu-desktop and *then* autoremove xubuntu-desktop (or viceversa, or whatever), ubuntu-minimal should stay installed, since it's depended upon by the other one
[11:31] <eternaljoy> LjL: so after I install ubuntu-desktop, shall I type: "sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop" ?
[11:31] <winds_of_change> unop like i say if you got some bether choice great :)
[11:31] <britt> hey, anybody know how to diable touchpad tapping?
[11:31] <britt> it really sucks
[11:31] <bur[n] er> LjL: in any event, he gets the idea ;)
[11:31] <britt> disable*
[11:31] <eternaljoy> bur[n] er: i do? :) hehe
[11:32] <LjL> bimberi: i'm not entirely sure, someone should test that. i'm sure about aptitude, but this new autoremove feature i haven't completely investigated. i can say, anyway that when i tried installing ubuntu-desktop (i have Kubuntu) and then autoremoving it, it didn't quite remove everything that was installed - not sure why
[11:32] <LjL> eternaljoy: if that works... yes.
[11:32] <britt> LjL: i've done it
[11:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: it wont make system unstable?
[11:32] <britt> LjL: only the opposite, i went from ubuntu->xubuntu
[11:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: shouldnt autoremove xubuntu-desktop remove everything associated with it?
[11:32] <unop> winds_of_change,  i dunno how you can laugh this off -- what if the make file had a line in there that was interpreted as a shell command, by sudo .. you could have easily have wrecked the person's install .. i dont think you understand the seriousness of this
[11:33] <eternaljoy> britt: if I use xfce, isnt that as good as gnome?
[11:33] <cafuego_> unop: Honestly, it's pointless.
[11:33] <eternaljoy> britt: why i need gnome or KDE if I have xfce?
[11:33] <unop> cafuego_,  what's pointless?
[11:33] <oyvindaa> anyone got an acer aspire laptop?
[11:33] <britt> eternaljoy: well, xfce is very good for older compuetrs(300Mhz G3 for instance), but its not as flexible as KDE/Gnome
[11:34] <dsquare> if anybody comes in here asking about ATI VIDEO CARDS you gotta tell them MERGED FB is the way to go for dual monitors.
[11:34] <eternaljoy> oyvindaa: are the Acer notebook good?
[11:34] <dsquare> thanks for your help peeps!
[11:34] <eternaljoy> britt: define not as flexible
[11:34] <apecat> oyvindaa: what about it?
[11:34] <LjL> eternaljoy: well no, only the stuff that isn't used by something else -- anyway, yes, but in my experience it didn't do that thoroughly.
[11:34] <winds_of_change> unop rar have danger shell codes?
[11:34] <jrib> dsquare: is that info on the wiki?
[11:34] <andre> LjL:  If I install the nvidia drivers will they run on .11 kernel?
[11:34] <oyvindaa> eternaljoy: sure. i need to know how to remove its dvd drive though, because it's broken. i'd appreciate it if anyone knew how to do it :)
[11:34] <LjL> andre: they're running on mine
[11:34] <eternaljoy> LjL: so If I install xbununtu and then install ubuntu-desktop and remove the xfce, the system wont become unstable will it?
[11:35] <eternaljoy> oyvindaa: Acer may help ;)
[11:35] <LjL> eternaljoy: no it won't
[11:35] <eternaljoy> LjL: ok thats good :)
[11:35] <LjL> eternaljoy: at worst, you'll be left with more packages than you need
[11:35] <darren_derwood> hi is there any one that would be kind as in helping me set up a nes emulator
[11:35] <eternaljoy> LjL: saves me dpownm;oading the whole ubuntu
[11:35] <dsquare> jrib yes it is im going to go comment on it.
[11:35] <unop> winds_of_change,  noo dude, the makefile -- you suggested this - sudo ./Makefile -- what if that had a line in there that was interpreted as a shell command ??
[11:35] <jrib> dsquare: great
[11:35] <LjL> !minimal > eternaljoy    (eternaljoy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:35] <eternaljoy> LjL: I wotn even know those extra packages are there, wil i?
[11:35] <andre> LjL:  I've included the lupine repo in my sources.list, I've updated and upgraded and now I'm going to apt-get install nvidia-glx and it should work fine right?
[11:35] <linuxnewbie756> i am downloading vmware server as a tar.gz, how will i compile it?
[11:35] <unop> eternaljoy,  did you want a pure xfce install? or to totally remove gnome
[11:35] <CageX> foutrelis: you still here??
[11:36] <bruenig> !compile | linuxnewbie756
[11:36] <ubotu> linuxnewbie756: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:36] <Biovore> linuxnewbie756: I think there is a perl script call installer.pl you run..
[11:36] <mega_fauna> Can someone help me with a boot problem please?
[11:36] <shrndegruv> can anyone help me go from fglrx to radeon driver?
[11:36] <bruenig> !anyone | mega_fauna
[11:36] <ubotu> mega_fauna: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:36] <eternaljoy> unop: lol
[11:36] <winds_of_change> unop ok use make is bether ... i usally use copy paste but ok ...
[11:37] <unop> eternaljoy,  errm, did i make a joke? :>
[11:37] <shrndegruv> anyone
[11:37] <shrndegruv> ?
[11:37] <eternaljoy> LjL: what if I want to try KDE. how I install that?
[11:37] <mega_fauna> alright. here goes: Installed ubuntu on a blank drive. Now the computer says that it can't recognize the blank drive
[11:37] <eternaljoy> unop: yeah! youre funny dude :)
[11:37] <shrndegruv> migrating from fglrx to radeon?
[11:37] <mega_fauna> I get grub error 2
[11:37] <LjL> eternaljoy: kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <jonw> how would I add ..http://mirror.ovh.net/ubuntu/pool/ to sources.list ?
[11:37] <bruenig> eternaljoy, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <linuxnewbie756> bruenig, do you know if there is a pre built package somewhere for vmware server?
[11:37] <eternaljoy> LjL: is KDE more featured and stable than gnome?
[11:37] <mega_fauna> I installed ubuntu using the automtic installer
[11:37] <eternaljoy> bruenig: ty :)
[11:37] <LjL> eternaljoy: yes. no. maybe. who knows. try.
[11:37] <mega_fauna> sorry if i was not specific enough
[11:37] <bruenig> linuxnewbie756, I am sure you can find some howto, There was one on the forums I followed a while back that worked
[11:37] <unop> winds_of_change,  thats not really the point -- you have to know what to do and when and if in doubt ask
[11:37] <eternaljoy> LjL: what u use?
[11:38] <LjL> eternaljoy: KDE
[11:38] <eternaljoy> ill trey KDE then :)
[11:38] <Xenguy> linuxnewbie756: there is a HOWTO for VMware and Ubuntu out there somewhere
[11:38] <jonw> can I add a pool repository infact ?
[11:38] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, i think it has something do do with the master boot record
[11:38] <unop> eternaljoy,  lol , now whose funny :p
[11:38] <Xenguy> linuxnewbie756: it is good documentation, and works
[11:38] <mega_fauna> The only other thing to add is that in the Dell setup screen (I assume the BIOS) it can recognize the drive 0 but not drive 1
[11:38] <eternaljoy> unop: not as funny as you dude ;)
[11:38] <mega_fauna> the Master boot record.
[11:38] <tritium_> s/whose/who's
[11:38] <unop> eternaljoy,  i use fluxbox, wanna try that too? :))
[11:38] <unop> :p
[11:39] <cafuego_> mega_fauna: the bios and MBR are unrelated. If it seens only 1 where there should be 2 (and they're IDE) - check the jumper settings.
[11:39] <winds_of_change> unop that why me you and the others are here don`t? :)
[11:39] <mega_fauna> how would i alter the master boot record to recognize that the linux formatted drive is related
[11:39] <eternaljoy> LjL: the minimal CD sounds good, but then I have to download so much things!  I rather install xbuntu and then instsall KDE and then remove xfce :)
[11:39] <mega_fauna> the drive IS ide
[11:39] <eternaljoy> unop: :P
[11:39] <linuxnewbie756> i would boot from the disk, use the build in disks manager to format the drive, then install on that drive
[11:39] <linuxnewbie756> probably looking at about 15 minutes
[11:40] <mega_fauna> hmmm
[11:40] <linuxnewbie756> that was for you mega_fauna
[11:40] <mega_fauna> k linuxnewbie756
[11:40] <linuxnewbie756> and mega_fauna, do you have more than one hard drive in?
[11:40] <unop> eternaljoy,  this could help then - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:40] <mega_fauna> there was 2, i removed the first (XP) one
[11:40] <eternaljoy> unop: LOL
[11:40] <mega_fauna> set the second in as a single master
[11:41] <cafuego_> mega_fauna: Are you talking about drives or partitions?
[11:41] <mega_fauna> and formatted it using gpart
[11:41] <shrndegruv> noone can help me migrate from fglrx to radeon?
[11:41] <mega_fauna> drives
[11:41] <cafuego_> mega_fauna: Ah ok.
[11:41] <linuxnewbie756> there is your problem, are you trying to boot with both in?
[11:41] <unop> eternaljoy,  I think you've had too much of the hobbit-weed for one evening :p that so wasnt funny at all :)
[11:41] <bobbyd> hi
[11:41] <mega_fauna> no, only one is in
[11:41] <eternaljoy> unop: rofl ;)
[11:41] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, are you trying to boot with both in?
[11:41] <tritium_> shrndegruv: just change "fglrx" to "ati" (or radeon) in your xorg.conf
[11:41] <mega_fauna> no, 1 drive only
[11:41] <mega_fauna> the linux drive
[11:41] <unop> eternaljoy,  ok, i guess i'm right then heh? :>
[11:41] <shrndegruv> tritium
[11:42] <bobbyd> can anyone recommend a laptop with a core 2 duo CPU and an nvidia gfx chip that would work well with linux?
[11:42] <shrndegruv> i tried that but composite wont work
[11:42] <jay> does anyone here know how to get xmodmap to recognize my Super keys?
[11:42] <mluser> is there a way to 'inject' a package into apt and make it think its really installed?
[11:42] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, the one you tried to install ubuntu on, right?
[11:42] <bobbyd> I'm having difficult finding something good
[11:42] <mega_fauna> yes, the ubuntu one.
[11:42] <eternaljoy> ubotu: cool link
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cool link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <kde_sucks> bobbyd, there are ubuntu specific laptops available
[11:42] <linuxnewbie756> mega_fauna, i would try installing it after formatting within ubuntu off the disk like i suggested
[11:42] <britt> eternaljoy: not as flexible, as in dragging doesnt work in xfce i think, at least on the desktop
[11:42] <eternaljoy> unop: good link
[11:42] <kde_sucks> try doing a google for it
[11:43] <eternaljoy> LjL: seen that link unop gave me?  it shows how to totally remover xfce
[11:43] <dammitman> how do i install drivers in ubuntu? anyone?
[11:43] <eternaljoy> bimberi: seen that link unop gave me?  it shows how to totally remover xfce
[11:43] <jrib> mluser: equivs
[11:43] <linuxnewbie756> so does anyone here actually use vmware server to run windows within ubuntu dapper drake?
[11:43] <unop> !equivs | mluser
[11:43] <ubotu> mluser: equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[11:43] <mega_fauna> linuxnewbie756: can you explain in more detail?
[11:43] <eternaljoy> unop: that link shows how to totally remove xfce
[11:43] <LjL> eternaljoy: you mean KDE?
[11:43] <Mandrill> can anyone reccommend a way to automate basic system operations (restart, login, update etc)? I want my other monitor back on my main machine. more complex stuff I can do remotely.
[11:43] <tritium> dammitman: you load modules (but they're usually auto-loaded at boot)
[11:43] <eternaljoy> LjL: no! xfce
[11:43] <edgardoweb> hi