[00:38] <kotux> Hi, can somebody on 13.10 confirm this bug?
[00:38] <kotux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1181442
[00:49] <phillw> kotux: I'm sure it will be picked up, 13.10 os still at pre-alpha and the release team are still working on string changes.
[00:51] <kotux> phillw: I'm sure, though I would like to try fixing the bug myself, to get the feel of development.
[00:51] <kotux> Do I have to consult the team first?
[00:55] <phillw> kotux: we are the qa / testing side. Can I suggest that you wait until Tuesday to chase it  up. The release team, as with others, have had a busy time with vUDS. The bug for a string is not really important, as we know we are still using 13.04 stuff :)
[00:57] <kotux> ok then, thanks
[00:57] <knome> kotux, generally it's better to focus on either the latest LTS or latest development release
[00:58] <kotux> knome, I am running saucy.
[01:00] <knome> (you were asking about 13.04 docs bugs)
[01:01] <kotux> actually, what I was saying was that on gnome-control-center (search 'Details' on unity), the app reads '13.04' on saucy
[01:01] <knome> oh. :)
[01:02] <kotux> I know the fix would be trivial, but I just want to give it a shot.
[01:02] <knome> go ahead :)
[01:02] <knome> sounds like a good starting point
[01:07] <phillw> knome: btw, Julien has not shouted me down on LSC.. I'm guessing he is also working out getting the fix into 13.10 so that it can be SRU'd.... This is not an easy task!
[01:07] <knome> :)
[01:08] <kotux> phillw, what's LSC and SRU?
[01:08] <knome> lubuntu software center, stable release update
[01:09] <kotux> cool, thanks
[01:09] <phillw> kotux: LSC is a light version of software center, it had a major bug which we are confident has been resolved.
[01:10] <kotux> my, it's quite a task.
[01:11] <kotux> phillw, you know actually, I have a separate lubuntu machine.
[01:11] <kotux> It's on a netbook; perhaps, I could help test with it.
[01:11] <phillw> kotux: if the patch for LSC is accepted, it then has to be appraised via QA / Testing to be allowed to be put onto earlier releases.
[01:13] <kotux> oh, ok.
[01:14] <phillw> LSC has been broken for a while, so provided that the new one works in 13.10, it will be tested. As the patch already works in 13.04 I do not see a major problem to have it SRU'd
[01:17] <phillw> kotux: nice and easy.... does LSC work on lubuntu machine?
[01:46] <kotux> phillw: the lubuntu netbook is not on daily build just yet
[02:10] <phillw> kotux: lubuntu do not have a netbook release?
[02:18] <phillw> kotux: have you checked as to if lubuntu are going to do a netbook release? It would
[02:18] <phillw> be news for me
[02:20] <phillw> kotux: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds seems to say that lubuntu are not.
[03:33] <kotux> phillw, I think I'm running lubuntu desktop
[03:33] <kotux> What's the difference between desktop and alternate?
[03:44] <JoseeAntonioR> kotux: that the alternate ISO doesn't run the graphical installer :)
[03:44] <kotux> JoseeAntonioR, oh ok.  Which iso is preferable for the netbook?
[03:44] <Noskcaj> kotux, alternate, because it uses less RM
[03:44] <Noskcaj> *RAM
[03:45] <JoseeAntonioR> kotux: yep, ask Noskcaj says, but really depends on your graphical needs
[03:46] <kotux> I can tolerate a lack of graphics
[03:46] <Noskcaj> kotux, and it's only for the install, after that, everything is the same
[03:46] <kotux> Because computing with bash feels extremely rewarding :D
[03:46] <JoseeAntonioR> kotux: once the insall is done, you will have a graphic environment, note that
[03:46] <Noskcaj> does this work?
[03:46] <kotux> oh ok
[03:46] <Noskcaj> !alternate
[03:47] <Noskcaj> damit ubot5
[03:47] <kotux> haha
[03:47] <kotux> where can I find info on installing with alternate cd?
[03:47] <Noskcaj> not for lubuntu or mini.iso
[03:47] <Noskcaj> the testcase for it, or a link i'm trying to find
[03:48] <JoseeAntonioR> Noskcaj: maybe you can create a channel-specific one for ubuntu-quality
[03:48] <Noskcaj> JoseeAntonioR, i don't know how to do that. i'll ask balloons or phillw  some time
[03:49] <JoseeAntonioR> Noskcaj: if you give me the factoid contents, I can submit the request for you right now
[03:50] <Noskcaj> JoseeAntonioR, it's the same on the lubuntu channels, and probably all channels, i'll make a factoid now
[03:50] <JoseeAntonioR> sure :)
[03:51]  * kotux wants to know what 'factoid' is
[03:51] <Noskcaj> kotux, a thing a ubot knows
[03:52] <Noskcaj> JoseeAntonioR: The alternate CD has been discontinued for the main Ubuntu distro, if you need the alternate installer, please use either lubuntu alternate or netboot
[03:52] <Noskcaj> kotux, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/AlternateInstall is the other link you might want
[03:52] <JoseeAntonioR> Noskcaj: uh, but that suggests to not use the ubuntu livecd, which the current factoid is
[03:52] <kotux> by alternate, I was talking about lubuntu alternate.
[03:52] <JoseeAntonioR> I think we can leave it like that for now
[03:53] <kotux> Noskcaj, thanks
[03:53] <JoseeAntonioR> kotux: yep, works the same. no graphical interface for install, but a full interface after that
[03:53] <Noskcaj> JoseeAntonioR, ok
[14:44] <smartboyhw> Hey SergioMeneses!
[14:44] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, hey!
[15:06] <kotux> good morning smartboyhw and SergioMeneses
[15:08] <smartboyhw> Hello kotux!
[15:09] <kotux> smartboyhw, what's coming up for QA?
[15:09] <smartboyhw> kotux: Cadence weeks? Promotion?
[15:10] <SergioMeneses> hey kotux
[15:10] <smartboyhw> kotux: Ask balloons for more details:P
[15:10] <SergioMeneses> kotux, Cadence weeks are coming!!!!
[15:10] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, ↑↑↑
[15:10] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: :)
[15:10] <SergioMeneses> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Saucy
[15:12] <kotux> no definite dates just yet. In the meantime, what is there to do?
[15:14] <smartboyhw> kotux: Autopilot?
[15:22] <kotux> I tried to work on a testcase long time ago, but I failed to do anything significant with it. :(
[15:22] <SergioMeneses> kotux, daily isos are working, maybe you want to test it
[15:23] <SergioMeneses> kotux, work on testcases? like write one?
[15:23] <kotux> SergioMeneses, yeah.
[15:24] <kotux> Just a matter of lack of confidence and trepidation at the documentation.
[15:24] <SergioMeneses> kotux, and what was your problem?
[15:24] <SergioMeneses> you can fin all information here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/
[15:26] <kotux> Ok, thanks.
[15:26] <kotux> About daily isos, I am on Saucy with my main computer and I plan to put lubuntu daily on my netbook
[15:28] <SergioMeneses> kotux, nice
[15:28] <SergioMeneses> and you can try another isos using Vbox or testdrive
[15:30] <kotux> SergioMeneses, how often do you test?
[15:31] <kotux> Before a cadence week comes around?
[15:36] <kotux> hey smartboyhw_ , are you still around?
[15:36] <smartboyhw_> kotux: Yes
[15:38] <kotux> ok
[15:38]  * kotux will be back momentarily.  Needs to reboot.


[03:35] <doug__> here jrib
[03:36] <jrib> have you formatted the partition now?
[03:36] <doug__> jrib no
[03:36] <doug__> what i wanna do is just make it a storage unit nothn more
[03:36] <jrib> yes
[03:37] <doug__> give me 5 min ill be running on the live cd
[03:37] <jrib> why?
[03:37] <jrib> ...
[03:45] <ubuntu> lol forgot the #
[03:45] <ubuntu> ok jrib im on live cd
[03:45] <jrib> k, format the ntfs as ext3
[03:46] <ubuntu> wait
[03:46] <ubuntu> now on the real ext3 note i have crucial 76gb data i cant lose or back up
[03:47] <jrib> there's no such thing as crucial data you can't back up.  If it's crucial, you back it up
[03:47] <jrib> is it on the same hard drive?
[03:47] <ubuntu> i cant i have no cd's nor othr drives
[03:47] <ubuntu> yes
[03:48] <ubuntu> its all school and work stuff
[03:48] <jrib> then it's up to you if you want to format the other partition.  Nothing should go wrong, but of course nothing is ever 100%
[03:48] <jrib> s/ever/never
[03:48] <ubuntu> ok so format the ntfs as ext3?
[03:48] <jrib> wait no, ever was right...
[03:49] <jrib> ubuntu: yes
[03:49] <ubuntu> The following operation could not be applied to disk:  Format /dev/sda1 as ext3
[03:50] <doug__> jrib:  i got The following operation could not be applied to disk:  Format /dev/sda1 as ext3
[03:51] <doug__> the format and the mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 failed
[03:52] <jrib> is it mounted?
[03:52] <doug__> jrib:  lol yea now its done
[03:52] <doug__> jrib  its now ext3
[03:53] <jrib> k
[03:53] <jrib> reboot then
[03:53] <doug__> k brb
[03:53] <doug__> wait jrib do i boot into that one first thn the real one?
[03:53] <jrib> huh?
[03:53] <jrib> boot into your normal install
[03:54] <doug__> ok
[03:57] <doug__> jrib:  ok now how i get read/write to it
[04:00] <jrib> have you managed to add it to your fstab?
[04:00] <doug__> how?
[04:00] <jrib> pastebin the output of 'blkid' and the current contents of your /etc/fstab
[04:00] <jrib> !paste
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:03] <doug__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38639/
[04:03] <jrib> doug__: /etc/fstab is a file, open it with 'gedit /etc/fstab'
[04:04] <doug__> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38640/
[04:05] <jrib> doug__: you don't have to paste it in both channels
[04:06] <jrib> change line 11 from: UUID=48C45190C451815C /media/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[04:06] <jrib> to:
[04:06] <jrib> UUID=2665e48d-5f45-4604-8ba7-6fd146a32c85 /media/sda1 ext3 defaults 0 2
[04:07] <doug__> done
[04:07] <doug__> it wont let me save
[04:08] <jrib> oh right, close that and open it with "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[04:08] <doug__> did
[04:08] <doug__> forgot the sudo
[04:08] <doug__> now what i do with it jrib?
[04:09] <jrib> you changed the line?
[04:09] <doug__> yep and saved
[04:09] <jrib> now type 'sudo mount -a' in a terminal
[04:10] <doug__> done and it went to a new line
[04:10] <jrib> now what permissions do you want on it?
[04:10] <doug__> none
[04:11] <doug__> oh i want read/write
[04:11] <doug__> i have non as of now
[04:11] <jrib> with everyone or just your user?
[04:11] <doug__> im only one uses it so me
[04:12] <jrib> do:  sudo chown $USER: /media/sda1
[04:12] <doug__> and how do i make it mount and have read/write auto on bootup
[04:12] <jrib> it already is
[04:13] <doug__> do i have to do sudo chown $USER: /media/sda1 on evry boot?
[04:13] <jrib> no
[04:13] <doug__> jrib:  i put somethng in it and i cant delete it now
[04:14] <jrib> tell me the output of: ls -ld /media/sda1 /media/sda1/*
[04:15] <doug__> drwxr-xr-x 4 doug doug  4096 2007-09-26 09:12 /media/sda1
[04:15] <doug__> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2007-09-26 08:52 /media/sda1/lost+found
[04:15] <doug__> drwxr-xr-x 2 doug doug 12288 2007-09-23 07:30 /
[04:15] <jrib> did you truncate the output?
[04:15] <doug__> i only did what u told me
[04:16] <doug__> so nope
[04:16] <jrib> is "drwxr-xr-x 2 doug doug 12288 2007-09-23 07:30 /" actually what it said on the last line, check that you copied the entire line
[04:17] <doug__> drwxr-xr-x 2 doug doug 12288 2007-09-23 07:30 /media/sda1/My Pictures
[04:17] <doug__>      is the last line
[04:17] <doug__> sorry must of cut some off
[04:17] <jrib> so you put "My Pictures" in there, correct?
[04:17] <jrib> and you can't delete it?
[04:17] <doug__> yes
[04:17] <doug__> yes
[04:17] <doug__> i was testing it
[04:17] <jrib> what happens when you try?
[04:17] <doug__> nothin
[04:17] <doug__> its not whre i can pick it
[04:17] <jrib> press "reload" in nautilus and try again
[04:17] <doug__> its greyed out
[04:18] <doug__> k brb
[04:18] <doug__> how i do the reload
[04:19] <doug__> all i know how do is reload x with out totaly rebooting
[04:19] <jrib> in the bar, there is an icon with two arrows going around in a circle
[04:19] <jrib> or view -> reload, or ctrl-r
[04:20] <doug__> oh *slaps self on face*
[04:20] <doug__> i thought u ment somethng else
[04:20] <doug__> ok done and done
[04:20] <jrib> so you can delete now?
[04:21] <doug__> thanks jrib
[04:21] <doug__> yep
[04:21] <jrib> no problem
[04:21] <doug__> sorry or the trouble
[04:21] <doug__> for*
[04:21] <jrib> no trouble


[09:37] <belkinsa> skellat, jrgifford, and Unit193: Have you seen the latest LoCo contact's mailing-list thread about the new policy?  I'm starting to think that it was a bad choice after all for this crippled community.
[14:06] <skellat> belkinsa: My turn to reply to it in Council rotation
[14:07] <belkinsa> Ah, good.
[14:07] <belkinsa> Though I think what I am more upset is the rule about the LoCo's in the States more than the new policy.