[18:51] <mk> strange, that gives me bash: /etc/network/interfaces: Permission denied
[18:51] <as> głópie pytanie co to za kanał ??
[18:51] <jiltdil>   echo "my password" |  make passwd --clearfrom = - --crypt -md5 | awk '{print $2}'       this is to make md5 password via termainl but something is going wron tell me where is the error in it
[18:51] <ChogyDan> bassam: the url is bad
[18:51] <jiltdil>   echo "my password" |  make passwd --clearfrom = - --crypt -md5 | awk '{print $2}'       this is to make md5 password via termainl but something is going wron tell me where is the error in it
[18:51] <FloodBot2> jiltdil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <Delocated> mk, then become root , then add it
[18:51] <bassam> but i checked with the owner
[18:51] <Delocated> mk there are some files you can not write to as root
[18:51] <bassam> it is workable
[18:51] <mk> Delocated: doesn't sudo root me?
[18:51] <basselito> bassam: 404-messages is standard web-messages for file not found... are you sure you got the address right?
[18:51] <jiltdil>   echo "my password" |  make passwd --clearfrom = - --crypt -md5 | awk '{print $2}'       this is to make md5 password via termainl but something is going wrong tell me where is the error in it
[18:52] <bassam> yes can i give you the address and you check it? i mean the website i will copy it in ubuntu copy and paste web page
[18:52] <bassam> is it ok?
[18:52] <ruan> bassam: i got a 404 on the link
[18:52] <basselito> bassam: tried surfing to that link in my browser... gives me a 404 file not found...
[18:53] <mk> jiltdil: don't paste your question. wait a few mins. if nobody responds, rephrase it
[18:53] <bassam> ok here's the instructions of download and installing the file
[18:53] <bassam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/580714/
[18:53] <bassam> pls check it
[18:54] <Delocated>  jiltdil why so much overhead?
[18:54] <ryuguns1> Hi
[18:54] <ryuguns1> NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
~# echo mypass | mkpasswd -m md5 -s
[18:54] <Delocated> $1$K8MKznwI$RDz1qjTtGES3mRw0tF/QL0
[18:54] <ryuguns1> What's a good firstperson shooter for ubuntu?
[18:54] <Incarus6> !help | ryuguns1
[18:55] <Delocated> bassam, the file does not exist on that server. give it up
[18:55] <allan_> hello everyone
[18:55] <kdog> I lost my logout/shutdown/reboot icon next to the clock. How do I get it back?
[18:55] <ChogyDan> bassam: http://wi-feye.za1d.com   try getting it from there
[18:55] <Delocated> do a google search for the file name , and download it from there
[18:55] <ryuguns1> hi
[18:55] <ryuguns1> Okay, sorry about that...
[18:55] <ryuguns1> I need a good first person shooter, anyone know one?
[18:55] <jiltdil> Delocated:thanx
[18:56] <rww> bassam: FloodBot is not sentient. Please ask questions in #ubuntu instead of PM.
[18:56] <basselito> bassam: haha good ol'aircrack... the software isn't around on that server anymore... maybe you can find it somewhere else on the internet.
[18:56] <DystaN> how can I change permission to copy things into created folder in the SYSTEM FILE ???? Ubuntu 10.10 ,
[18:56] <ryuguns1> I'm tired of rebooting just to play sudden attack
[18:56] <ruan> DystaN: sudo cp [file] [destination]
[18:56] <Incarus6> ryuguns1, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531112 and http://www.ubuntugamer.com/2010/11/five-awesome-native-ubuntu-first-person-shooters-you-may-not-know-about/ btw, you can use wine
[18:56] <donnib> how does one figure out why a custom init.script does not stat at boot but works when i do sudo ./myscript start
[18:56] <Delocated> aircrack-ng ? check the repositories
[18:57] <ohzie> ryuguns1: half life 2
[18:57] <ruan> DystaN: or gksudo nautilus
[18:57] <bassam> ok let me try
[18:57] <mk> Delocated: I changed interfaces to contain only auto eth0. hopefully that fixes things. thanks
[18:57] <allan_> Trying to setup dual monitors with an ati radeon 5700 anyone mind giving me a hand? Much appreciated.
[18:57] <Delocated> mk no!
[18:57] <Delocated> keep what was there
[18:57] <ryuguns1> Okay, thank you Incarus and ohzie.
[18:57] <bassam> ok i downloaded the software
[18:57] <Delocated> mk you need lo
[18:57] <bassam> from the website directly without using wget command
[18:57] <bassam> but how do i install it now?
[18:57] <mk> oh, ok. what's lo?
[18:57] <bassam> i extracted the file
[18:57] <ruan> bassam: follow the rest of the instructions?
[18:57] <bassam> but I dunno how to install it
[18:57] <Delocated> mk just add in the auto eth0
[18:58] <Delocated> localhost
[18:58] <ktwo> hi, i need to copy all files (including hidden ) from one directory to another ( i mean.. really everything) , what command ? is cp -r /newdir enough?
[18:58] <ruan> bassam: downloading was one step
[18:58] <jrib> bassam: please keep your questions and responses on a single line.  What exactly do you want to install?
[18:58] <bassam> ok
[18:58] <maedox_> donnib: look if it left any traces in /var/log/. Add debug statements in it. Or you could paste it here for us to see. There might be some PATH issues.
[18:58] <ohzie> ryuguns1: Just remember, if you play HL2 force it to DX7. DX9 works but DX7 plays a lot smoother and you're less likely to have hardware problems if you're not running a good system.
[18:58] <mk> Delocated: ah. ok, thanks. >> appends, > overwrites?
[18:59] <ryuguns1> I don't even know what that is.
[18:59] <ryuguns1> lol
[18:59] <bassam> I want to install this software wi-feye and i downloaded it from its main website and I extracted it but I dunno how to install it
[18:59] <ruan> bassam: does it come with an executable?
[18:59] <ruan> bassam: eg. .sh
[18:59] <donnib> maedox_: in which log in var/log should i look in ?
[18:59] <bassam> yes there is one .sh file
[18:59] <ruan> bassam: or does it come with instructions
[19:00] <Seppman> good evening,  how to get size of directory on ftp server?
[19:00] <bassam> It comes with instructions as well I followed the instructions but seems nothing happens
[19:00] <maedox_> donnib: boot, messages, syslog at least I guess.
[19:00] <donnib> maedox_: when i do sudo ./daemon-deluge status is says Started so i guess it is started
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> donnib: i wouldn't run deluge with sudo dude
[19:01] <maedox_> donnib: I guess so
[19:01] <donnib> maedox_: maybe the problem is that it gets started to early, the service, needs network connection
[19:02] <DNS777> hey :) some1 knows how to kill a process which doesnt have a PID in hardy? :x
[19:02] <donnib> ActionParsnip: well i know but this is just for test
[19:02] <mhansen> nick arameus
[19:02] <maedox_> donnib: could be, how do you start it?
[19:02] <bassam> can I speak to one of you guys on private?
[19:02] <syn3rgy> I want to Multiseat X with Maverik 10.10 using Gnome (not KDE) is this possible yet?
[19:02] <ruan> DNS777: how could it not have a PID?
[19:02] <bassam> pls
[19:02] <donnib> maedox_: i did this sudo update-rc.d myscript defaults 98 02
[19:02] <gabriel_> hey all, is there a way to delete the main panel ? ubuntu 10.10
[19:02] <DNS777> ruan seems to be a mess up after compile while runnin an app
[19:03] <donnib> maedox_: is there a way to see the order of the services started ?`
[19:03] <ruan> gabriel_: you could remove it by right clicking it, but are you sure you want to do that?
[19:03] <Incarus6> syn3rgy, separated x screens?
[19:03] <maedox_> donnib: i.e: ls -l /etc/rc2.d/
[19:03] <ruan> gabriel_: right click > delete
[19:03] <bassam> My problem still not solved.
[19:03] <Seppman> there must be a way to achieve this, istn't there one?
[19:04] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 in a way. Means that many users can use the same computer and see their own accounts.
[19:04] <ruan> bassam: if you execute the .sh file with a terminal [cd to directory, ./foo.sh] does it work?
[19:04] <bassam> ruan : how can i execute it?
[19:04] <maedox_> donnib: you could look into using upstart instead of init.d scripts. it's supposed to be more flexible with regards to dependencies
[19:05] <donnib> maedox_: if i want to make sure it is at the end how do i do that ?
[19:05] <ruan> bassam: cd to the directory with a terminal first
[19:05] <donnib> maedox_: oh, don't know much about it, i just found this script on the net and i added it
[19:05] <bassam> ruan: so i open the terminal and type what?
[19:05] <gabriel_> ruan, yes, but it's the last panel , and I don't get that option highlighted
[19:05] <maedox_> donnib: put it in /etc/rc.local or /etc/crontab with a line like: @reboot user command
[19:05] <Delocated> bassam, you need to read the instructons for it
[19:06] <Delocated> it does work
[19:06] <Incarus6> syn3rgy, it is similiar. when you use one computer you have to possibility to start several x servers (e.g. dualscreen)
[19:06] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 This is the power of Ubuntu 10.10 using multiseat www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlPhVsFgYe0&feature=related
[19:06] <ruan> gabriel_: hmmm... make it transparent?
[19:06] <donnib> maedox_: so i should copy the script to /etc/rc.local and try reboot to see if that works ? don't i have to remove it from where it is now ?
[19:06] <gabriel_> ruan, yes I did
[19:07] <bassam> I dunno how to execute the file in terminal
[19:07] <Delocated> Does anyone know of a distributed type set up when I could run a command across multipal servers and have it catch when one of the servers exits the command?
[19:07] <ruan> bassam: where is the file?
[19:07] <Seppman> no one here has a script for this? pls hlp me
[19:07] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 Thing that this does not seem to work in the Gnome vertion of Ubuntu. If you look at the video you can see it is using KDE
[19:07] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data ana manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[19:07] <format120> whats a good program to run an E-mail server?
[19:08] <Seppman> format120: postfix
[19:08] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 GDM REALLY sucks
[19:08] <bullgard> s/ana/and/
[19:08] <format120> thanks
[19:08] <Incarus6> syn3rgy, you can use gnome + kdm i think. i found that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[19:08] <Delocated> format120, postfix,sasl,tls,mysql, and some spam filter
[19:08] <format120> thanks Delocated
[19:09] <Seppman> Delocated: why mysql?
[19:09] <bassam> /home/bassam/downloads/wi-feye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:09] <ruan> bassam: ok, type cd /home/bassam/downloads/wi-feye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:09] <bassam> so what to do nexT?
[19:09] <ruan> bassam: in a terminal
[19:09] <bassam> ok
[19:09] <bassam> wait
[19:09] <syn3rgy> Incarus6 OK Ill take a look if I can somehow intergrade the code from KDE with GDM and ConsoleKit
[19:10] <ruan> bassam: then type ./file.sh
[19:10] <Seppman> anyway, does someone think i'd get better support in fedora oder debian?
[19:10] <Delocated> Seppman, smtp auth sasl
[19:10] <ruan> bassam: file being the name of the file with .sh extention
[19:11] <maedox_> donnib: /etc/rc.local is a file. You add the script path before exit in there. `update-rc.d -f deluge-daemon remove` first
[19:11] <Incarus6> syn3rgy, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" should give you a dialog to choose between kdm and gdm (when kdm is installed)
[19:11] <ruan> extension
[19:11] <Delocated> Depends on how many users you plan on holding
[19:11] <Seppman> Delocated: ok, thats an argument
[19:11] <Delocated> Seppman, this is true, you could just leave it at pam
[19:11] <format120> Delocated, so smtp authentification, and sasl are in msql? or you need msql to run them?
[19:11] <Delocated> format, stick with the basics, postfix
[19:11] <syn3rgy> Incarus6  Ill take a look at that. Thx
[19:12] <Delocated> and later you can add in sasl, tls, and whatever else you want
[19:12] <bassam> ok it shows this messages 'bash: cd: /home/bassam/downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin/evilgrade.sh: No such file or directory
[19:12] <bassam> '
[19:12] <Seppman> seems no one can help me. all i wanna do is to get directory size inb FTP. ho to achieve that?
[19:12] <ruan> bassam: you can't start the file with cd
[19:12] <Incarus6> syn3rgy: one thing: video looks like, looks more like dual screen them multiseat
[19:12] <Incarus6> *fake, not like
[19:12] <ruan> bassam: you have to cd to the folder, then ./evilgrade.sh
[19:13] <bassam> ok
[19:13] <Screw> hi all!
[19:13] <bassam> can you type me it?
[19:13] <hiexpo> what command would i use to paste whats in the terminal to pastebinit
[19:13] <ruan> bassam: cd /home/bassam/downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin/
[19:14] <llutz> !pastebinit | hiexpo
[19:14] <nomadiks> hey whats up guys
[19:14] <Incarus6> hiexpo, ctrl+c & ctrl+v ;)
[19:14] <bassam> it shows the same message
[19:14] <bassam> bash: cd: /home/bassam/downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin/: No such file or directory
[19:14] <donnib> maedox_: i messed up the rc.local since i thought that it was a folder so i replaced it with my script, is there something important in it ? :)
[19:14] <Delocated> Seppman, size?
[19:15] <maedox_> donnib: hehe, no, by default it's basically empty.
[19:15] <Seppman> Delocated: size ./ doesnt work
[19:15] <donnib> maedox_: phew...... :) ok, i need to look up on the net the syntax to how to add the script in it
[19:15] <maedox_> donnib: http://pastebin.com/BwE6SGZf
[19:15] <maedox_> that's the default in 10.10
[19:15] <ruan> bassam: then type cd dow[tab] enter, cd Wi[tab] enter, bi[tab] enter
[19:16] <maedox_> donnib: just add the full path to the script/binary you want executed
[19:16] <ruan> cd bi[tab] enter*
[19:16] <hiexpo> Incarus6, what you mean ctrl + c & ctrl + v
[19:16] <Seppman> Delocated: 550 .: not a plain file.
[19:16] <GPatterson55> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Windows 7 Virtual PC, and the installation stalled at retrieving packages
[19:16] <nomadiks> any clue why I can only download around 2Mb when i'm usually connecting at 24 or so with windows, or older versions of ubuntu?
[19:16] <Incarus6> hiexpo, copy + paste, nevermind.
[19:16] <TechniCore> Erm. whenever I try to install anything with apt-get i get some odd error.
[19:16] <TechniCore> Here's the pastebin.
[19:16] <TechniCore> http://pastebin.com/PeTkx84g
[19:16] <ruan> bassam: in short, cd to every folder up to the last one
[19:16] <nomadiks> currently running 10.10, and connecting wirelessly.
[19:16] <ruan> bassam: using tab as autocomplete
[19:17] <GPatterson55> I was forced to turn the Virtual PC off, is Ubuntu attempting to download packages from the internet?
[19:17] <donnib> maedox_: ./etc/daemon-deluge is ok ?
[19:17] <ruan> GPatterson55: did you look at Details?
[19:17] <Seppman> Delocated: seems i'd need some script which puts size on every file and then adds it to a sum
[19:17] <bassam> ok
[19:17] <bassam> thank you
[19:17] <maedox_> donnib: drop the dot
[19:17] <Delocated> dir showsize
[19:17] <GPatterson55> @ruan, I'm using the alternate installation, and I'm kind of new to this, I didn't see any details
[19:17] <donnib> oki
[19:18] <GPatterson55> Just a text install with a progress bar
[19:18] <maedox_> donnib: and why is the executable in /etc/? that's unorthodox :)
[19:18] <TechniCore> Whenever I attempt to install/uninstall anything at all i get this. http://pastebin.com/PeTkx84g
[19:18] <ruan> GPatterson55: oh, alternate
[19:18] <bassam> ok ok
[19:18] <bassam> pls
[19:18] <bassam> i did it correctly
[19:18] <donnib> maedox_: i know, it's just to get it working then i can move it
[19:18] <ruan> GPatterson55: are you able to monitor bandwidth?
[19:18] <hiexpo> what i am tryingto figure out is if i want to paste the output of the terminal to pastbinit
[19:18] <Screw> I have a question: If I use encrypted home and want to reinstall Ubuntu then how can I mount the earlyer encrypted home partition?
[19:18] <TechniCore> ?
[19:18] <ruan> bassam: ok, is it working?
[19:18] <Incarus6> TechniCore, pls paste "ERROR: Build failed. Please review the build log at /tmp/alsa-driver-linuxant.6308.log"
[19:18] <llutz> hiexpo: see what ubottu told you
[19:19] <GPatterson55> No, not at the moment. The install asked to set up a network connection but I told it to skip that. I didn't think it would need to download anything to install
[19:19] <Seppman> Delocated: that does nothing, just says "Transfer complete"
[19:19] <llutz> hiexpo:  .... Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:19] <TechniCore> Incarus6: The log file is one line long, it says this:
[19:19] <TechniCore> make: *** No rule to make target `mrextraproper'.  Stop.
[19:19] <ruan> GPatterson55: it generally doesn't have to
[19:19] <Incarus6> TechniCore, and thats the issue ;)
[19:19] <GPatterson55> @ruan, Would there be another reason why it would just hang at "Retrieving Packages"?
[19:20] <ruan> GPatterson55: i dont know
[19:20] <hiexpo> llutz, got it thanks
[19:20] <TechniCore> Incarus6: What do I do to fix it? I'm relatively new to this.
[19:20] <ruan> GPatterson55: is it possible to cut off internet access from the vm manager?
[19:21] <GPatterson55> @ruan, yeah, I should just try again with no network access? then add it back after install?
[19:21] <ruan> GPatterson55: yeah that should work
[19:21] <joris_> I want to load/require/include a file which is in the same directory as the script but I always get an error
[19:21] <joris_> "no such file to load -- stringutil.rb (LoadError)
[19:21] <joris_> 	from postprocessb.rb:2"
[19:21] <Seppman> Delocated: this is an every day problem, i can't belive that there's no solution
[19:22] <GPatterson55> @ruan, THANKS!!! I'll give it a try
[19:22] <TechniCore> Incarus6, what do you mean?
[19:22] <Incarus6> TechniCore, i never heard something about "mrextraproper" (no results in google), looks like a typo or something. can you paste the original argument which caused that issue (and some lines around)?
[19:22] <Delocated> you can always just do ls -s DIR
[19:22] <Delocated> and have it output it to DIRNAME
[19:22] <Delocated> the read that
[19:23] <Delocated> Depends on what it is you want to do
[19:24] <bassam> ruan : i need your help
[19:24] <Seppman> Delocated: for example there's a big fileserver and i simply want to know how much stuff is in /pub/somedirectory
[19:24] <ruan> bassam: what is the problem now?
[19:24] <btse> du -hs <directory>
[19:24] <TechniCore> Incarus6: If this is what you mean, http://pastebin.com/KU6zhQKC
[19:24] <bassam> ok i went to terminal and typed cd /home/bassam/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:25] <madsj> pm-hibernate refuses to work after an upgrade to 10.10; what's the solution?
[19:25] <ruan> bassam: and?
[19:25] <bassam> and it showed me this message ~/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin$
[19:25] <Incarus6> TechniCore, no i meant the file containing that "mrextraproper" command
[19:25] <Seppman> Delocated: of course i could do 'ls -s', but that gives me the size of every file and i am not as good as shell to parse thise list to make cumulative size
[19:26] <TechniCore> Incarus6: The log file is empty except for that one line.
[19:26] <bassam> ruan: ok here you go
[19:26] <bassam> bassam@bassam-XPS-L501X:~$ cd /home/bassam/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:26] <btse> Seppman, try du -hs <directory>
[19:26] <bassam> bassam@bassam-XPS-L501X:~/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin$
[19:26] <ruan> bassam: ok, type ./evilgrade.sh
[19:26] <bassam> ok wait
[19:26] <bullgard> madsj: No easy solution. May be you will find a solution in Launchpad with reference to your computer type. --  Otherwise analyze /var/log/kern.log.
[19:26] <Seppman> btse: that doesnt work over FTP
[19:26] <ruan> bassam: or whatever the file's name is
[19:26] <Incarus6> TechniCore, give me a second
[19:27] <jrib> Seppman: so pass the directory to ls (see -d)
[19:27] <jrib> Seppman: (or du -sh)
[19:27] <bassam> it shows this now
[19:27] <bassam> bassam@bassam-XPS-L501X:~$ cd /home/bassam/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin
[19:27] <bassam> bassam@bassam-XPS-L501X:~/Downloads/Wi-fEye-v0.5.6/bin$ ./evilgrade.sh
[19:27] <bassam> bash: ./evilgrade.sh: /usr/bin/expect: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[19:27] <FloodBot2> bassam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:28] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data ana manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[19:28] <Seppman> jrib: what do you mean by "pass it to ls" (sorry,, my english is not that good)
[19:28] <jrib> Seppman: ls -sd /some/path
[19:29] <bassam> ruan: it showed me this message after i typed the file's name
[19:29] <bullgard> s/ana/and/
[19:29] <Adam_x> Hi yall.
[19:29] <ruan> bassam: hmm, i cant really help there. it looks like the script's problem
[19:29] <bassam> ok thank you
[19:29] <ruan> bassam: unless it came with instructions
[19:29] <bassam> sorry for disturb you did a lot
[19:29] <bassam> it came with instructions
[19:29] <madsj> bullgard: it says pnp unregistered; could this be a good hint of something?
[19:29] <bassam> can i show you the instructions?
[19:29] <ruan> well, you need to follow the instructions
[19:29] <jrib> Seppman: if you're using ftp, « man ftp » claims to have a "size" command too.  Does that work as you expect on directories?
[19:30] <bassam> ruan: can i show you the instruction with a paste link?
[19:30] <ruan> bassam: ok
[19:30] <skullboy> how do i setup frame buffer
[19:30] <Seppman> jrib: as a said that DOES NOT work on directories
[19:30] <donnib> maedox_: hmm does not work also i still see the daemon when i run ls -l /etc/rc2.d/c
[19:30] <Incarus6> TechniCore, you are mixing up  different repos, didnt u? there is no packages called "alsa-driver-linuxant", and i can install git-core from the original repos easily
[19:31] <jrib> Seppman: ok, note I only read the line before my reply.  I have no idea what you said before that :)
[19:31] <darkkilla> hi... I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 AMD64 (installed long time ago 9.04 and kept upgrading), I'm using LUKS on my disks (except for /boot) and also have a crypted Swap (with random key upon each boot). The thing is: My Kernel is incredibly aggressive when it comes to killing processes... it's really a pain in the ***, because it ("preferred targets") frequently kills Opera and Pidgin
[19:31] <bullgard> madsj: Is the output of pm-hibernate: "pnp unregistered"?
[19:31] <Seppman> jrib: the problem is that i want to get the size of a directory via ftp :-)
[19:31] <jrib> Seppman: does ls -sd directory not work?
[19:31] <donnib> maedox_: i created a new rc.local directly with sudo nano rc.local but maybe i need to set some permissions on it
[19:31] <bassam> ruan: ok here's the instructions http://paste.ubuntu.com/580741/
[19:31] <donnib> before it works
[19:32] <maedox_> donnib: yes, it has to be +x
[19:32] <llutz> donnib: root:root 755
[19:32] <TechniCore> Incarus6: I installed that to make my modem work, and from then on i couldn't install nor uninstall that. Yes I had to add a repo, I don't remember which one.
[19:32] <maedox_> donnib: what he said
[19:32] <Seppman> jrib: it tries to write it to an file on the ftp server (which fails)
[19:32] <maedox_> beat me to it :P
[19:32] <donnib> sudo chmod +x rc.local ?
[19:32] <Delocated> Seppman, Im not sure there is an easy way in ftp. I can do it in perl
[19:32] <jrib> Seppman: what do you mean?
[19:33] <Incarus6> TechniCore, try "sudo aptitude reinstall git-core"
[19:33] <ruan> bassam: the instructions include editing Wi-fEye.py
[19:33] <unifide567865> hi
[19:33] <ruan> bassam: edit it and add the paths to those other tools that it needs
[19:33] <TechniCore> Incarus6: sudo: aptitude: command not found
[19:33] <TechniCore> do you mean apt-get?
[19:34] <Seppman> jrib:  ls -sd /pub ftp: Can't access `/pub': Permission denied
[19:34] <bassam> ruan: but the problem is i'm not even able to extract it, I couldn't extract it
[19:34] <Seppman> Delocated: there is no way, seems so. :-(
[19:34] <ruan> bassam: why?
[19:34] <invitad_> hi there
[19:34] <ruan> bassam: you seemed to have created a folder
[19:34] <invitad_> hi there
[19:35] <TechniCore> Incarus6: there is no command called aptitude and no apt-get operation reinstall
[19:35] <Incarus6> TechniCore, aptitude can fix some things that apt-get can't, i recommend you to install aptitude
[19:35] <ruan> yeah sudo apt-get install aptitude
[19:35] <madsj> bullgard: I haven't noted it down, but I think so
[19:35] <brontosaurusrex> Seppman, checked yafc?
[19:36] <donnib> maedox_: i give up, still won't work :(
[19:36] <MiszczJan> okej
[19:36] <darkkilla> I srsly don't know why my kernel is so aggressive... when I now start opera I can almost bet, that I can at best open one new tab and then the kernel will kill it and when I come home from work, Pidgin often got killed in the middle of the day... or when I get up in the morning... yep, Pidgin is killed...
[19:36] <qknight> hey. i have deleted /etc/ssh/* and then: dpkg --purge ssh; afterwards apt-get install ssh but the directory /etc/ssh is still empty. any idea how i could fix that (it is a debian system but i guess it is very similar to ubuntu)
[19:36] <MiszczJan> i think that ubuntu is crap
[19:36] <maedox_> donnib: odd. is there no installation notes?
[19:36] <MiszczJan> archlinux is better
[19:36] <maedox_> donnib: where did you get it and what is its purpose?
[19:36] <MiszczJan> what U think ?:)
[19:36] <Seppman> brontosaurusrex: didn't know that, doc says this would work. Thank you
[19:36] <TechniCore> Incarus6: same alsa-driver-linuxant error
[19:37] <TechniCore> when installing aptitude
[19:37] <donnib> maedox_: it's a deluge daemon script
[19:37] <donnib> maedox_: i got it from a forum thread, someone did it
[19:37] <bullgard> madsj: Next time you better note down the exact error message. Without an exact error message you are often lost. --  Can you find the error message in /var/log/pm-powersave.log.1?
[19:37] <ruan> !best | MiszczJan
[19:37] <maedox_> donnib: link?
[19:37] <jrib> qknight: openssh-server
[19:38] <donnib> maedox_: what i am trying to achieve is simple to describe, i am trying to start the deluge daemon at boot
[19:38] <donnib> maedox_: 2 sec
[19:38] <donnib> maedox_: http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32153
[19:38] <maedox_> donnib: I know, I'm just trying to figure out if there might be some dependencies in the script that isn't satisfied on boot. e.g. without your user env.
[19:40] <Incarus6> TechniCore, ah, simple! thats the problem. do you really need "alsa-driver-linuxant"? i think not. try "sudo dpkg -r --force-all alsa-driver-linuxant"
[19:40] <Incarus6> TechniCore, "alsa-driver-linuxant" is causing a dependency hell
[19:41] <TechniCore> Incarus6: Of course, I get the same error while uninstalling it, :(.
[19:41] <ruan> my panels just froze, how do i restart them?
[19:42] <Incarus6> TechniCore, also with --force-all? pls paste exact result
[19:42] <qknight> jrib: thanks that worked but dpkg broke with error 1 as it could not find /etc/ssh (i removed it) one the dpkg --purge step which keeps me wondering
[19:42] <darkkilla> does nobody have a clue what might cause all this problems? I srsly think about installing a Vanilla/Mainline-Kernel...
[19:42] <donnib> maedox_: sent u a link
[19:42] <donnib> maedox_: with the script
[19:42] <qknight> jrib: no it was apt-get install openssh-server which broke
[19:42] <maedox_> donnib: seems simple enough. not sure why it won't work. Did you try putting it in /etc/crontab too?
[19:42] <coz_> hey all
[19:42] <ruan> my panels just froze, how do i restart them?
[19:43] <coz_> ruan,  killall gnome-panel
[19:43] <ruan> ty
[19:43] <maedox_> donnib: @reboot root /etc/deluge-daemon >/tmp/deluged.log 2>&1
[19:43] <TechniCore> Incarus6:  http://pastebin.com/e8czXnBb
[19:43] <maedox_> donnib: then you'll get info in /tmp/deluged.log about what happens
[19:44] <donnib> maedox_: no, should i add it at the end ?
[19:44] <maedox_> donnib: no harm in trying
[19:44] <swiggy> bah - random Q -- i was in terminal / ssh / emacs and i accidentally closed what i was working on w/o saving it but it is not 'closed' yet its still an open process - how do i reopen it? i have checked the ~ file but its not been updated yet
[19:44] <jrib> swiggy: no screen or tmux?
[19:45] <swiggy> im in terminal
[19:45] <donnib> maedox_: i put the exact line above, doing a reboot now
[19:45] <jrib> swiggy: no screen or tmux?
[19:45] <will_> Does anyone know how to hotkey VLC to react to the scroll-bar on a mouse for changing audio levels?
[19:45] <jrib> qknight: broke how?  pastebin
[19:45] <swiggy> i guess not i dont know what tmux is
[19:45] <Incarus6> TechniCore, um.. thats a serios problem, give me a second
[19:45] <jrib> swiggy: no screen?
[19:45] <jrib> swiggy: if not, emacs might have it's own special setup, check the emacs channel
[19:45] <donnib> maedox_: how do i check if it's running ?
[19:46] <qknight> jrib: think i fixed.
[19:46] <bullgard> ruan: A panel freeze would show up in the '~$ ps ax' process list as to what kind of block it is. If it is 100% CPU in the top, then thatwould be harder to track. But if it is in the D state in ps then you could  probably strace it to find what ist is doing.
[19:46] <maedox_> donnib: ps -ef|grep deluge should do the trick
[19:46] <qknight> what tools are there to configure a server? and is dpkg --configure and dpkg-reconfigure the same thing?
[19:46] <raven> how to disable writing .trash on external disks?
[19:46] <sodapiggy> #norge
[19:47] <donnib> maedox_: testUser     2114  2080  0 12:46 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto deluge
[19:47] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data ana manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[19:47] <donnib> maedox_: means it's running ?
[19:47] <maedox_> donnib: no, sorry, try: ps -ef|grep [d]eluge
[19:47] <Incarus6> TechniCore, are you sure your system will run after reboot? oO try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure dpkg"
[19:47] <maedox_> that's just the grep process, it's not running
[19:47] <maedox_> anything in /tmp/deluged.log?
[19:48] <donnib> maedox_: yup, says that i have to use start, stop,restart etc
[19:48] <donnib> maedox_: i guess i have to put start after the line in rc.local
[19:48] <maedox_> donnib: heh, yeah, good point, you have to add start, yes.
[19:49] <TechniCore> Incarus6: nothing happened
[19:49] <maedox_> donnib: I thought you got that covered.
[19:49] <donnib> maedox_: sorry
[19:49] <jolicloud> does anyone here know what joli OS is?
[19:49] <TechniCore> jolicloud: i do
[19:49] <jrib> jolicloud: not an ubuntu question
[19:49] <jolicloud> TechniCore: can i program on it?
[19:49] <Incarus6> TechniCore, no error= successful. i think i know why you cant remove it. you have to remove that package by hand
[19:50] <jolicloud> jrib: itll only be a second?
[19:50] <jolicloud> *....
[19:50] <jrib> jolicloud: use #ubuntu-offtopic or whatever the jolicloud channel is instead please
[19:50] <Seppman> i'll shoot myself in the head with my pumpgun. that doesn't work either. it can recursively show sizes of files, but not cumulative
[19:50] <jolicloud> TechniCore:
[19:51] <TechniCore> jolicloud: I said I know what it is, that's all. You should ask elsewhere =.=
[19:52] <TechniCore> Incarus6: And, how do I do that? :P
[19:52] <Joshua-> greetings everyone
[19:52] <Joshua-> i cannot find it online (well) and forgot the ps aux command, that also leaves it open instead of close... within the terminal
[19:52] <Joshua-> would anyone remember that flag?
[19:53] <Incarus6> TechniCore, try "sudo apt-get purge alsa-driver-linuxant"
[19:53] <Joshua-> --help ++thc and been a while back in nix :P
[19:53] <weia> Joshua-: top?
[19:53] <Joshua-> thanks in advance
[19:53] <Joshua-> oh no
[19:53] <Joshua-> please dont tell me that was it
[19:53] <Joshua-> i know that one :P
[19:53] <Joshua-> i love you
[19:54] <JediMaster> can anyone suggest a reliable way to test network bandwidth over an internal network? I've tried netperf between two ubuntu 10.10 boxes and can only get 1.3Mbps on the best run on a 1Gbps network (one cable into a swtich, then another into the other machine)
[19:54] <TechniCore> Incarus6: Same error o.o
[19:54] <Ameen> plz can anyone send me .mp4 player for backtrack 4
[19:55] <TechniCore> Incarus6: Still, want a pastebin?
[19:55] <Joshua-> is the router sure to be able to duplex
[19:55] <Seppman> i'll kill myself
[19:55] <Delocated> SeppoJ, I have a way to do it in bash
[19:55] <Incarus6> Seppman, that wont fix the problem
[19:55] <will_> What GPU acceleration method does Ubuntu use now? XAA, EXA or UXA?
[19:55] <Delocated> err
[19:55] <JediMaster> Joshua-, yes, ethtool also shows both interfaces (one on each machine that is) are on 1000Mbps full duplex
[19:55] <rick890> !list
[19:56] <webczat> Hey, how ubuntu installer encrypts the home directory?
[19:56] <Delocated> Seppman, I have a way to do it in bash
[19:57] <Incarus6> TechniCore, try "sudo apt-get moo"  and "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[19:57] <Joshua-> the only thing i know to advise is check the netwowrk sometimes it turns off the higher speed... windows veteran
[19:57] <weia> webczat: ecryptfs
[19:57] <webczat> weia: is it better than dmcrypt?
[19:58] <Delocated> root@<REMOVED>:~# sh getsize.sh
[19:58] <Delocated> size of /etc is: total 40M
[19:58] <TechniCore> Incarus6: Lol @ moo, and autoremove gives the same error :(
[19:58] <Incarus6> at least moo is working
[19:58] <delac> any music player for ubuntu that has adjustable fade in/out at pause, stop and song change?
[19:59] <donnib> maedox_: it works now, crontab is the one that works
[19:59] <donnib> maedox_: thx for your help, now to NFS problems :D
[20:00] <gribouille> hi
[20:00] <weia> webczat: no
[20:00] <llutz> delac: what's wrong with "du -sxh /etc"?
[20:00] <gribouille> when I type mount, I get the following line (among others) : /dev/sr1 on /media/U3 System type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=500,gid=500,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500). someone know what it means ?
[20:00] <madsj> bullgard: will do that tonight; problem is just that I have to shut off the computer in the ungentle way when I do this
[20:00] <TechniCore> Incarus6: So, reinstall ubuntu? D:
[20:01] <madsj> I'm not really sure which line exactly would indicate the problem in pm-*.log
[20:01] <bullgard> madsj: Good luck!
[20:01] <Incarus6> TechniCore, i found a lot of ppl with the same issue. download and install http://www.linuxant.com/alsa-driver/archive/alsa-driver-linuxant-<IP_ADDRESS>/alsa-driver-linuxant_<IP_ADDRESS>_all.deb.zip
[20:01] <llutz> gribouille: its a list of options used when mounting that cd
[20:01] <delac> llutz: you actually ment that message for me or...?
[20:01] <gribouille> llutz, but I don't have a CD in my CD tray
[20:01] <llutz> delac: sry no
[20:01] <Incarus6> TechniCore, then "cd /usr/lib/alsa-driver-linuxant && sudo make uninstall"
[20:02] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data and manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[20:02] <maedox_> donnib: cool :D
[20:03] <will_> Does anyone know where i can get decent Intel video drivers?
[20:03] <will_> Or possible point me to the Intel IRC channel.
[20:03] <Jeroen> Any idea how to make the keyboard in Ubuntu behave like on OS X?
[20:04] <Jeroen> You can map ctrl to the Meta key... But I'm looking for a way to map alt+tab to cmd+tab too.
[20:04] <gribouille> wgere are mounts logged ?
[20:04] <gribouille> how can I know when a device was mounted ?
[20:05] <moller> hm jeroen you can try swap the keyboard model
[20:05] <moller> System > Settings > Keyboard > layouts
[20:06] <maedox_> gribouille: /var/log/messages
[20:06] <Jeroen> moller: yes, that lets me map ctrl to cmd... but I don't see a way of telling it to do an alt+tab when doing cmd+tab. I need the OS to understand that the sequence ctrl+tab is actually al+tab.
[20:09] <gribouille> I have the following line in /var/log/messages : Mar 15 20:20:32 station kernel: [40521.397198] scsi 9:0:0:1: CD-ROM
[20:09] <gribouille> but I didn't put anything in the cd tray
[20:10] <maedox_> gribouille: so, nothing to worry about then.
[20:10] <trism> Jeroen: are you using alt+tab for anything other then switching between windows? otherwise might be easier to set a new combination in System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts
[20:11] <moonster> ciaoo
[20:11] <Jeroen> trism: no, only switching between windows.
[20:11] <moonster> !list
[20:11] <moonster> sorry
[20:11] <Jeroen> trism: got it. Thanks!
[20:12] <grom> can anyone tell me, why do i have to import the music all anew, each time i restart rhytmbox? (the drive from whych i imported it is otherwise udes by windows)
[20:13] <danryan> hey folks, I'm looking for a package/executable that provides the swap usage of procs
[20:13] <gribouille> I plug my Sandisk USB key. Two devices are created : /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sr1. what does it mean ?
[20:13] <danryan> does such a thing exist?
[20:13] <donnib> how much is the difference in performance between NFS and CIFS ? is it wort fighting for NFS ?
[20:14] <dlynes> donnib, define fight
[20:14] <SwedeMike> gribouille: your sandisk emulates a cdrom as well as the actual device.
[20:14] <gribouille> SwedeMike, why ?
[20:14] <dlynes> donnib, if you mean fight as in fight politics with IT, I'd say probably not
[20:14] <donnib> dlynes: well right now i have CIFS working to my NAS and i get 8-9mb/s and i can't get NFS to work so i wondered wheter NFS might perform better
[20:14] <SwedeMike> gribouille: guess they want to install drivers on windows systems or something. ask them.
[20:14] <Delocated> danryan, https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/56929/
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> donnib: are you transfering huge files or small stuff like images and audio tracks?
[20:15] <dlynes> donnib, NFS has many more security holes, and I'm not that sure it's any more efficient than samba
[20:15] <dlynes> donnib, the biggest advantage to NFS is that it preserves unix file permissions and ownerships
[20:15] <Delocated> danryan, or http://dev.gentoo.org/%7Er0bertz/per-process-swap-usage.patch
[20:16] <donnib> ActionParsnip: i will be transferring GB of data
[20:16] <Delocated> start in that area
[20:16] <dlynes> donnib, and nfs is probably better documented from a unix/linux standpoint
[20:16] <dlynes> donnib, especially for optimizing
[20:16] <danryan> Delocated: thanks, was looking for a util like vmstat without using /proc/$pid/status or /proc/$pid/smaps
[20:16] <gribouille> SwedeMike, when I plus the key, how does ubuntu know what devices to create ?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> donnib: how many Gb per file?
[20:17] <donnib> dlynes: ok, so until now it seems CIFS is ok, i did not mention but i have various clients using the data from the NAS, i have windows, linux, mac os so maybe CIFS is the best choice
[20:17] <donnib> ActionParsnip: 4.7 gb or 700 mb
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> donnib: its only small stuff then, you should be fine
[20:18] <donnib> ActionParsnip: oki, thx
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> donnib: there are settings you can add in /etc/sysctl.conf to increase the ram used for network buffering which can make life nicer
[20:20] <skullboy> how do i set up frame buffer
[20:20] <Delocated> danryan, pcp / pmstat
[20:21] <donnib> ActionParsnip: interesting, any link to what i should be looking into ?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> donnib: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html
[20:23] <skullboy> how do i set up frame buffer
[20:23] <KramB> For some reason Compiz does not work with my GeForce 8400 GS.  Though others it has, why is that?  I would like to use it.
[20:23] <donnib> ActionParsnip: thx, will look into it
 do you have the video drivers
[20:23] <KramB> Skullboy: Yes sir.
[20:24] <KramB> Skullboy: Though there are too version, I took the recommened on.
[20:24] <KramB> two*
 what problem are experiencing
[20:24] <drc> KramB, define "not work"
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> donnib: that's for a system with a bit of ram to spare. Can also add: vm.swappiness=0     to the same file so your OS only uses swap if absolutely necessary
[20:25] <dlynes> donnib, yeah...I would stick with CIFS, personally, then
[20:25] <KramB> Skullboy/drc: The effects like when you move your window it wobbles, mine does not wobble.
[20:25] <dlynes> donnib, it's a much more compatible solution for all your windows users
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | KramB
[20:25] <donnib> dlynes; yeah that's what i thought
[20:25] <dlynes> donnib, and as I had mentioned, it doesn't have as many security holes as nfs
 what desktop envelopment do you use
[20:26] <donnib> dlynes: cool, thx for the advice
[20:26] <KramB> I use Xfce.  Xubuntu 10.10
[20:26] <dlynes> donnib, security's important when you have all those evil windows trolls running around
[20:26] <donnib> dlynes: :D
 i think thats why'
[20:27] <drc> KramB: With XFCE, how did you enable Compiz?
[20:27] <drc> KramB, As far as I know, COmpiz is GNOME only, won't work with XFCE
[20:27] <aeon-ltd> drc: xfce is the environment, when running compiz it takes over xfce's window manager
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> KramB: have you installed the nvidia driver?
[20:28] <aeon-ltd> drc: so really you'd basically be using xfce software inc panel with compiz window manager
[20:28] <drc> aeon-ltd: Ah, so it does work with XFCE?
[20:28] <skullboy> drc: and kde compiz works with kde
[20:28] <KramB> Action: Yes I have the recommened driver installed.  drc: Are you sure?  I was following a guide for Xubuntu.
[20:28] <aeon-ltd> drc: it wouldn't be xfce anymore but yes
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Drc: you can use compiz on any DE. Its not gnome only
[20:29] <drc> So I have just learned
[20:29] <drc> Not that I want it :)
 ohh duh did you type compiz --replace in the console
[20:30] <KramB> skullboy: Yes sir, I do believe I did.
[20:30] <andersffs> Hello! I was messing around with ircd-hybrid on my homeserver and i think i made of written "sudo apt-get autoremove" and now when i want to install something it just says that there no dependencies installed. So my question it how do i install all the standard packages and/or make "apt-get install" download them automaticly? Thanks!
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> KramB: run: sudo apt-get -y install compizconfig-settings-manager   and you will install compiz
[20:31] <KramB> Action/drc: If you two will please wait a moment could I have you look at the guide I followed?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> andersffs: try: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:31] <andersffs> ActionParsnip: Wont work :(
[20:31] <andersffs> ActionParsnip: Also rm -r * in the archive and cache
[20:31] <drc> KramB: I'm out of this...my ignorance is exceed only by my ability to show it :)
[20:31] <gedO> Hello. Does someone here programs with Anjuta IDE????
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> andersffs: can you pastebin the output please
[20:32] <andersffs> sure
[20:32] <andersffs> 1 sec
[20:32] <KramB> drc: Fair enough.  Seems no one loves the Xfce desktop. :/
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> andersffs: sudo apt-get clean    does that for you
[20:33] <drc> KramB: it's not the xfce part...I also use Xubuntu
[20:33] <andersffs> ActionParsnip: okay, didn't know :)
[20:33] <KramB> drc: Was kidding around, but okie dokie.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Kramb: did you run the command I gave?
[20:34] <andersffs> ActionParsnip: Im currently running "sudo apt-get upgrade", so i think that might take a while.
[20:34] <KramB> Action: Could you hold on a moment?  I did all of this and it still not work (a week ago I did this)  I have just now had time to report the problem.  I will show you the guide I followed?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> andersffs: ok let it run
[20:35] <KramB> Action: If you were to scan over this: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/.
[20:35] <KramB> Action: This is what I followed for Compiz.
[20:35] <aeon-ltd> !tab | KramB
[20:35] <KramB> What?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> Kramb: i gotta jet. Just install the package, press Alt+F2 and run: compiz --replace
[20:36] <KramB> Already tried that...
[20:36] <kad_> hi i'm trying to compile squid, always it output: make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. why ? thx
[20:38] <kad_> i think when i did ./configure --prefix=/usr it works
[20:38] <gedO> Does someone is programming on Ubuntu with c++?
[20:39] <itaylor57> kad_: why are you compiling squid its in the repos
[20:39] <TechniCore> Hmm. Terminal and Synaptic give me grey screens and do nothing, after installing aptitude. Help?
[20:39] <emilos> hello, how can i get my pc to go to a boot loader (grub??) instead of launching directly into Ubuntu 10.10? i have a windows hdd and i would like to swithc between them without having to go into bios config , thanks!
[20:39] <saintbasil> emilos: it will automatically do that for you if you install ubuntu after you installed windows
[20:39] <kad_> itaylor57, back when i do make install again, well i want to enable "--enable-wccp", when i install it via apt, it doesn't enable wccp
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> emilos: hold Esc during boot, to set this permanently it involves editing grub configsd
[20:40] <kad_> itaylor57,  do you have any idea how to enable it if i install it from: apt ? thanks
[20:40] <emilos> they are one two separate hdds
[20:40] <cancuengt> A friend here mover all hist /bin to another location and it does not have mv to restore it. Any ideas what to do?
[20:40] <gonssal> hi
[20:40] <TechniCore> Terminal and Synaptic give me grey screens and do nothing, after installing aptitude. Help?
[20:41] <gonssal> anyone knows if its possible to get unallocated space out of an extended partition using gparted?
[20:41] <aeon-ltd> cancuengt: boot into a live environment to move it back, or run mv from its new location
[20:41] <shlm> hi thre
[20:41] <drc> KramB: The instructions for this are for versions prior to 9.04 (at least two years old).  They still might work, but again, maybe not.  I'd really look for more uptodate instructions (place a time restriction in google :)
[20:42] <shlm> how to change username by cli ?
[20:42] <llutz> shlm: man usermod
[20:42] <KramB> drc: I'll look around I guess, thank you.
[20:43] <bullgard> When booting my Maverick computer I obtain on virtual console-1 data  roughly equivalent to the output of '~$ landscape-sysinfo'.  It requests: "Graph this data and manage this system at http://landscape.canonical.com/ ." Does following this invitation require a fee?
[20:43] <andersffs> heres my output when i tries to install ircd-hybrid: http://pastebin.com/G87xZxRU
[20:43] <drc> KramB: again, you might ask in #xubuntu
[20:43] <KramB> I did.
[20:43] <llutz> bullgard: better ask canonical directly
[20:43] <KramB> Xubuntu is never active.
[20:44] <Tetsuo55> anyone know if there are plans to backport the performance patch from kernel .38?
[20:44] <drc> KramB:  Fair enough.  Seems no one loves the Xfce desktop. :/
[20:44] <bullgard> llutz: How can I ask Canonical directly?
[20:44] <KramB> drc:  I see what you did there. :P
[20:44] <llutz> bullgard: canonical.com - contact or supprt
[20:45] <andersffs> Hello! I was messing around with ircd-hybrid on my homeserver and i think i made of written "sudo apt-get autoremove" and now when i want to install something it just says that there no dependencies installed. So my question it how do i install all the standard packages and/or make "apt-get install" download them automaticly? Thanks! Heres my output: http://pastebin.com/G87xZxRU
[20:45] <cancuengt> aeon-ltd: In the new location it cannot be run
[20:45] <LukasB> Hello everybody! Can anybody please give me advice which source code editor is good to use in ubuntu? I used Notepad++ in Windows where I came from yesterday and I am not very experienced....
[20:45] <shlm> thanks llutz
[20:45] <cancuengt> aeon-ltd: Were looking for a live enviroment
[20:45] <cancuengt> thanks
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> cancuengt: even with a full path and chmod'ed?
[20:45] <bullgard> llutz: I dont think that thisl little comprehension problem of mine justifies to ask Canonical for support.
[20:45] <Polah> LukasB: For what type of code?
[20:46] <llutz> LukasB: vim, emacs, gedit
[20:46] <LukasB> Polah: mainly css
[20:46] <Polah> LukasB, get Bluefish
[20:46] <skullboy> is there a such thing as virtual frame buffer
[20:47] <LukasB> Polah: Okay I have a look, thanks :)
[20:47] <llutz> bullgard: if you click the link you mentioned and read "Register for your free trial of Ubuntu Advantage"  it sounds like you have to pay (sooner or later). but thats offtopic here
[20:47] <LukasB> llutz: thanks for helping, llutz
[20:47] <Polah> LukasB, sudo apt-get bluefish
[20:48] <bullgard> skullboy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-monitor
[20:48] <QualmQuandary> http://www.rpgcodex.net/gallery/3929.png
[20:49] <LukasB> Polah: What does sudo apt-get mean?
[20:49] <QualmQuandary> dur ubuntu werst boogen gummi?
[20:49] <bullgard> llutz: I've got the same impression. --  Thank you.
[20:49] <Da|Mummy> how do i enable ssl connections?
 im not trying to set up multiple monitors im trying to get qingy working
[20:50] <bullgard> LukasB: That is a Linux / Debian command.
[20:50] <bullgard> skullboy: I do not know anything about qingy.
[20:51] <LukasB> bullgard: Ah cool thanks...
[20:51] <khrm> LukasB Sudo means u want to run the command as administrator( root) and apt-get install is a command to install a package from net. Use: man command-name for more info.
 i need frame buffer but my video card is incompatible of frame buffer
[20:52] <bullgard> skullboy: If it is really incompatible then is bad luck for you.
 that is why i want virtual frame buffer
[20:53] <gonssal> anyone managed to get unallocated space in a disk drive out of an extended partition using gparted?
[20:54] <phonex01> hello guys i need a good software for ubuntu to extract sound from video files ?
[20:55] <bullgard> gonssal: Sure. That's one of the jobs which GParted accomplishes.
[20:55] <phonex01> hello guys i need a good software for ubuntu to extract sound from video files ?
[20:55] <Da|Mummy> how do i enable ssl connections?
[20:55] <dryicebomb> phonex01, this can be done in avidemux
[20:55] <phonex01> thank you
[20:56] <stanman246> hi guys, i've got me a new disk, which i need to create a partition table
[20:56] <stanman246> should that be msdos?
[20:56] <guntbert> stanman246: the partition table: yes
[20:57] <LukasB> khrm: So I enter "sodu apt-get bluefish" in the terminal?
[20:58] <guntbert> LukasB: sudo apt-get install bluefish
[20:58] <dryicebomb> Lukasb, type sudo apt-get install bluefish
[20:58] <MarconM> guntbert, o que é bluefish
[20:58] <MarconM> guntbert, para que serve
[20:58] <stanman246> thanks guntbert
[20:58] <bullgard> Da|Mummy: enable or estabish? 'man ssh': " ssh connects and logs into the specified hostname (with optional user name)."
[20:59] <guntbert> stanman246: you're welcome :-)
[20:59] <bullgard> +l
[20:59] <stanman246> ext4 for just data storage?
[20:59] <LukasB> dryicebomb: Thanks, that works
[20:59] <guntbert> !br | MarconM
[20:59] <Da|Mummy> bullgard, i cant connect to a ssl connection on usenet
[20:59] <khrm> LukasB to know more about apt-get and what it can do type in terminal: man apt-get
[21:00] <Da|Mummy> find out that i need to enable ssl connections in ubuntu
[21:00] <MarconM> ubottu, sorry man ... i didnt know
[21:00] <gonssal> bullgard sadly you are wrong
[21:00] <LukasB> khrm: uiii a miracle.. :) Thanks!
[21:00] <gonssal> it's not possible without deleting the extended partition apparently
[21:01] <Da|Mummy> ok then whats the right answe gonssal ?
[21:01] <gonssal> you have to delete the extended partition and recreate it
[21:01] <gonssal> with the new size you want
[21:01] <LukasB> Cant somebody switch on conference mode? Or is it only me getting all the joining and leaving messages that makes irc run so fast?
[21:01] <guntbert> MarconM: bluefish is a programming editor
[21:01] <Da|Mummy> sorry wrong question, nvm, i need help with ssl
[21:02] <guntbert> LukasB: you switch to conference mode yourself
[21:02] <Jordan_U> gonssal: How have you determined that GParted can't do this?
[21:02] <hihihi100> i cannot open a zip file, I suspect it is due to compatibility issues, can anyone help me confirm? http://paste.ubuntu.com/580775/
[21:02] <LukasB> uh... how?
[21:02] <bullgard> LukasB: My Chatzilla just operates in this channel in conference mode.
[21:02] <bastidrazor> Da|Mummy: ask usenet how to connect to their server with ssl. that is not a ubuntu problem.
[21:02] <guntbert> LukasB: what client?
[21:02] <ks07> Hey guys, anyone know how to allow the www-data user (apache) use screen?
[21:02] <gonssal> Jordan_U: I tried it for like 30 mins, then googled it and everyone came to the same conclusion
[21:02] <Da|Mummy> bastidrazor, it seems to be a problem with linux, you have o manually enable ssl in linux
[21:03] <MarconM> guntbert, i wanna a program for to make website
[21:03] <MarconM> komposer is the best
[21:03] <MarconM> ?
[21:03] <LukasB> yeah i used chatzilla until yesterday... i use empathy today
[21:03] <ks07> MarconM, kompozer is good for me ^^
[21:03] <gonssal> the only thing you can do without deleting the extended partition is create/expand partitions inside the extended one
[21:03] <gonssal> but not reducing it
[21:03] <MarconM> ks07, but how i can to make a " render "
[21:03] <guntbert> MarconM: bluefish is for that too, of course (and there is never *the best* for anything) :-))
[21:03] <Incarus6> hihihi100, zip file is broken
[21:04] <MarconM> guntbert, auehaueauhuahauha.... yes
[21:04] <guntbert> !info bluefish > MarconM
[21:04] <MarconM> ks07, do you know aptana studio
[21:04] <ks07> never heard of it sorry
[21:04] <delac> any music player for ubuntu that has adjustable fade in/out at pause, stop and song change?
[21:04] <Bruce_Wayne> sudo apt-get remove package_name doesn't free up all disk space.... how to remove a package and get a all disk space free like before/
[21:04] <MarconM> search it
[21:05] <bastidrazor> delac: rhythmbox
[21:05] <k3ops> --purge
[21:05] <MarconM> ks07, i think is for web design too ....
[21:05] <LukasB> guntbert: I use empathy first time today
[21:05] <hihihi100> incarus, is there any way i can fix that file?
[21:05] <delac> bastidrazor: it doesnt let you adjust the fade length
[21:05] <Polah> hihihi100, it says CRC failed for "Train/GP38/Run6.wav" so I'd assume that file is bad, everything before that is fine. Try to extract everything except that file
[21:05] <Polah> Delac: Rhythmbox
[21:06] <Polah> Comes by default on 10.10 at least
[21:06] <delac> Polah: it doesnt let you adjust the fade length
[21:06] <Bruce_Wayne> k3ops: I installed wild-shine-theme which took about 21 Mb after installation.. now even if I do give remove/purge command it says only ~200 KB will be freed!!
[21:06] <MarconM> ks07, http://www.aptana.com/
[21:06] <bullgard> Bruce_Wayne: apt-get purge package-name
[21:06] <ks07> MarconM, wow, looks very professional from the website, I thought it was closed source for a minute there xD
[21:06] <elFidel> delac: clementine lets you define a face duration
[21:06] <elFidel> *fade*
[21:06] <nictrasavios> Hello my brothers, could one of you direct me to the IRC channel responsible for wine? or atleast someone who can help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/580776/
[21:06] <MarconM> ok
[21:06] <genii-around> nictrasavios: #winehq
[21:06] <nictrasavios> genii-around, thank you very much :)
[21:06] <Polah> delac, Edit > Preferences > Playback > Crossfade duration?
[21:06] <MarconM> i have installed a game on format " .bin "
[21:06] <delac> elFidel: hmm, havent heard of that before. going to take a look. thanks!
[21:06] <MarconM> how i can uninstall
[21:06] <Incarus6> hihihi100, u can try that proprietary tool http://www.essentialdatatools.com/products/objectfixzip/
[21:07] <MarconM> just to delet a folder
[21:07] <MarconM> the folder
[21:07] <delac> Polah: doesnt affect the fade length, onnly crossfade between songs
[21:07] <Bruce_Wayne> bullgard: I installed wild-shine-theme which took about 21 Mb after installation.. now even if I do give remove/purge command it says only ~200 KB will be freed!!
[21:07] <sudipta> is there a XCode version in linux?
[21:07] <CassioCosta> how remove PPA repository ?
[21:07] <elFidel> sudipta: xcode is apple specific
[21:08] <nictrasavios> sudipta, nope :( i tried in vain for weeks to get it work.
[21:08] <k3ops> Bruce_Wayne: have you try apt-get autoremove
[21:08] <danny66RO> incarus6??
[21:08] <CassioCosta> how remove PPA repositoryfrom terminal?
[21:08] <Incarus6> pm
[21:08] <bastidrazor> delac: Preferences > Playback > Crossfade :that is what you're looking for
[21:08] <arand> CassioCosta: Delete from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:08] <genii-around> CassioCosta: They are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d  directory.
[21:08] <bastidrazor> Polah: uh, you beat me to it.
[21:08] <guntbert> LukasB: I don't know about empathy, for other clients see: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages
[21:08] <bullgard> Bruce_Wayne: You probably pulled in other packages too.
[21:09] <CassioCosta> arand: ok
[21:09] <coz_> sudipta,  have you looked into  eclipse  or netbeans or any of the other IDE's available for linux?
[21:09] <delac> bastidrazor: does not affect the fade length, only crossfade betweeen songs
ok..no linux version...but can it be installed in linux?
[21:09] <Bruce_Wayne> k3ops: Yes, it says now 23 MB will be freed!! Thanks... So do you know difference between all this?
[21:09] <Polah> Bruce_Wayne: Run sudo apt-get autoremove afterwards to remove dependencies installed with it
[21:09] <bastidrazor> delac: yes i can see your responses to others.
[21:09] <bonny> How can i play wormux online
[21:09] <coz_> sudipta,  there is  code::blocks
[21:10] <nictrasavios> sudipta: nope :( sorry. i tried myself for WEEKS. and got nothing.
[21:10] <k3ops> Bruce_Wayne: also you can do apt-get clean or autoclean :) man apt
[21:10] <coz_> bonny, mmm let me check
[21:10] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah: I don't understand 2nd part of your advice about dependencies
yeah....but i have had a chance to use Xcode....frnd's lappy...and it was awesome
[21:10] <coz_> bonny,  not sure actually ,, I have never played that
[21:10] <stef__> Hello, i'm having a big problem! i have a cron job that shut down my server when itt's just booted! is there a way to start my ubuntu without loading cron jobs ?
[21:10] <CassioCosta> genii-around: ok
[21:11] <Polah> Bruce_Wayne, when you install a package it installs dependencies alongside it; other packages that it needs to run
[21:11] <opdynamiks> any quick way to configure the alt-tab switcher to ALWAYS appear on the same monitor on multimonitor setup? (Compiz)
[21:11] <guntbert> bonny: what has that to do with ubuntu support?
[21:11] <coz_> sudipta,  ah ok,, I have not used it ,, did you google  linux  alternative  xcode
[21:11] <nictrasavios> sudipta: im a dev for cydia, and for the app store, so i wanted this badly. in the end i suckered up and just got a hackintosh. i shall say no more on this subject since this is a ubuntu channel.
[21:11] <k3ops> Bruce_Wayne: its delete the downloaded paket which installed
[21:11] <Polah> When you do apt-get remove x it only removes the package you selected to remove, and not any dependencies installed with it
[21:12] <stef__> Hello, i'm having a big problem! i have a cron job that shut down my server when itt's just booted! is there a way to start my ubuntu without loading cron jobs ?
[21:12] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah: So autoremove will remove dependencies too right?
[21:12] <ks07> How do I allow the www-data user to use 'screen -x...'? I'm getting Cannot opendir /var/run/screen/S-ks: Permission denied
[21:12] <coz_> sudipta,  most of the hits I got refer to eclipse as a high end alternative
[21:12] <cosmo_> what is the command to create a new wineprefix?
[21:12] <Polah> bruce_wayne: autoremove will remove ANY leftover dependencies that aren't needed by anything else
[21:13] <nictrasavios> Oh, and well i am here... I can install compiz, but after a reboot, metacity stops working, no window borders or menus, when i change it back to the default window manager, compiz effects stop. how do i get the two to coninside like they always used to?
[21:13] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah: nice explanation thanks.
[21:13] <coz_> sudipta,  or perhaps   http://www.gnustep.org/
[21:13] <Bruce_Wayne> k3ops: Thanks to you too! :D
[21:13] <ThinkT510> stef__: can't you use a livecd/other linux install to mount the server and edit your cronjobs?
[21:14] <stef__> oh is that possible? just use a livecd and edit the file ?
[21:14] <nictrasavios> And yes, i have tried #compiz, they never said a word in the 2 hours i was in there.
[21:14] <coz_> nictrasavios, ooo sorry guy,,, it was probably when I was on break in #compiz
[21:14] <guntbert> stef__: essentially yes
hmmm...ok...seems like that :)
[21:15] <stef__> ok i will try it, thanks!
[21:15] <coz_> nictrasavios,   I am there now :)
[21:15] <Polah> Is it possible to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit without a clean install?
[21:15] <coz_> Polah,  not that I am aware of
[21:15] <bastidrazor> Polah: no
[21:15] <itaylor57> Polah: no
gnustep is a full featured ide?
[21:16] <coz_> sudipta,  i believe so but please do some research for it before you do anything :)
okkk
thanx
[21:16] <coz_> sudipta,  no problem and also do more search for  xcode on linux  and its alternatives
[21:17] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah: I was reading `man apt-get` and there is little explanation is given on everything.. I don't understand about dselect method mentioned in `clean`... Do you know about it?
[21:17] <Polah> Bruce_Wayne, No I don't sorry.
[21:17] <Bruce_Wayne> Polah.. Alrigh..
[21:18] <Bruce_Wayne> np
[21:19] <coz_>   ok I need to break for supper ,, be back in a bit
[21:20] <k3ops> Bruce Wayne: you mean the tool dselect ? its textbase paket-installer
[21:21] <hihihi100> i have problems with another zip, help please http://paste.ubuntu.com/580785/
[21:22] <nictrasavios> While i wait for someone in #wine to take notice of my plight, will anyone in here hear my problem?
[21:23] <khrm> What is it?
[21:24] <nictrasavios> Durring the installation of an .msi within the terminal , i ran these commands and these errors came, the installation has failed, this is all the information you need > http://paste.ubuntu.com/580776/
[21:26] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: have you tried looking in the appdb under itunes perhaps?
[21:27] <aaaaaaaaaaaaa> ?
[21:27] <nictrasavios> ThinkT510, appdb? may you give me a path?
[21:27] <dryicebomb> hihihi100 take a look at this forum, there are instructions there on how to handle 7z files http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-263825.html
[21:28] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: wine has an app database of compatible applications
[21:28] <Isonyx> Hello, I'm having an issue with cron on ubuntu. Every time I do $ cron it seems to already be running. I can manually close the process down but every time I do it has some keep-alive mechanism. Anyone know what to do?
[21:28] <gimpy4982> I'm trying to run VMware Workstation on 10.10 x64 but it claims it can't find my kernel headers even when I point it to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-27-server.
[21:28] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[21:28] <nictrasavios> ThinkT510, its not on there, which is why i am doing it. I took itunes apart and installed the components one by one, this is the last peice, the one fatal flaw.
[21:29] <k3ops> you configured autodetect driver and deactivate alsa driver and oss, better you use itunes  exe not msi
[21:29] <nictrasavios> the mobile application support, everything else works, i have ti working, it just will not handle any mobile devices. i decompressed the exe, installed the parts one by one.
[21:29] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[21:30] <nictrasavios> the line i would focus on this this "Call from 0x7bc49e10 to unimplemented function msvcrt.dll.??_V@YAXPAX@Z"
[21:31] <Isonyx> Hello, I'm having an issue with cron on ubuntu. Every time I do $ cron it seems to already be running. I can manually close the process down but every time I do it has some keep-alive mechanism. Anyone know what to do?
[21:31] <deft_n1x> hi all, i've a question about ubuntu repository.. exist a web frontend for ubuntu repository that permit to search packages?
[21:32] <maco> deft_n1x: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:32] <Isonyx> Hello, I'm having an issue with cron on ubuntu. Every time I do $ cron it seems to already be running. I can manually close the process down but every time I do it has some keep-alive mechanism. Anyone know what to do?
[21:32] <ThinkT510> !cron | Isonyx
[21:32] <deft_n1x> maco: i need to install it in front of my local repository..
[21:32] <deft_n1x> maco: exist a web application to do it?
[21:32] <nictrasavios> ThinkT510,  i shall try again with the full exe, i used playonlinux the 1st time, let me try that method.
[21:33] <Isonyx> Firstly, http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[21:33] <Isonyx> is Not Found
[21:33] <Isonyx> and secondly. My issue isn't how to use it..It's why it keeps rebooting even when I kill the process.
[21:33] <maco> deft_n1x: does it have to be a web app? "apt-cache search network" will search for "network" in all packages in all of your configured (even local) repositories
[21:33] <cosmo_> what bittorrent client would you guys recomend?
[21:33] <Isonyx> Even after deleting crond.reboot
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> cosmo_: rtorrent
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> cosmo_: transmission
[21:34] <bl4ckcomb> cosmo_, rtorrent or transmission
[21:34] <ThinkT510> deft_n1x: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[21:34] <aeon-ltd> bl4ckcomb: :)
[21:35] <dryicebomb> Isonyx, why do you want to remove cron? is there just a cron job that is running that you want to get rid of?
[21:35] <Polah> cosmo_, Transmission comes with Ubuntu by default
[21:35] <cosmo_> oh didnt notice it there
[21:37] <deft_n1x> maco: yes, i know it.. but if webapp exist i need to it
[21:37] <Isonyx> I  don't want to remove cron.
[21:37] <Isonyx> I want to run cron.
[21:37] <Isonyx> See, when I do I get something like
[21:38] <ThinkT510> Isonyx: cron always runs at boot
[21:38] <Isonyx> can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 688: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:39] <Isonyx> cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 19216: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:39] <QuartZo> why did Linus Torvalds say that Ubuntu is not "kernel developer" friendly? What particular thing did he want to refer to?
[21:39] <ljsoftnet> how do you delete files in jolicloud?
[21:39] <Isonyx> Something like that. I read on a linux forum that's it's something to do with the process. When I checked out the Cron process it's on a keep-alive system.
[21:40] <maco> deft_n1x: wouldnt be that hard to write a python script that outputs some basic html and the output of the apt-cache command
[21:40] <feetboot> In order to change the tray icon of gnome power manager, I know I have to change icon files in /usr/share.  But how do I know which to change? 16x16, 22x22, 48x48, etc?  Is there a config file I an look at to see what icon is being used?
[21:40] <nictrasavios> No luck, its what i had before. Still no mobile device support
[21:40] <maco> QuartZo: i suspect a kernel developer could better answer that than the general tech support peple here
[21:40] <deft_n1x> maco: thnx :-)
[21:41] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: you were right to ask in #wine, it's certainly not a ubuntu issue
[21:41] <nictrasavios> ThinkT510, yes i know, but they are as active as a dead otter.
[21:42] <speedy> hello all
[21:43] <ThinkT510> nictrasavios: if wine doesn't support it yet, then it doesn't support it yet, there's nothing we can do to help with that
[21:44] <speedy> question: does anybody know what intelligent life is for building the package for bashstyle-NG it is a required package is all i have missing to compile it
[21:44] <speedy> where can i get it
[21:47] <phoenixsampras> how should i biu drinks, and my wife wont be noticed?
[21:47] <phoenixsampras> how should i buy drinks, and my wife wont be noticed?
[21:48] <Firefishe> speedy: What are you trying to compile again?
[21:48] <aVirulence> I have a question on mdadm on Natty, is there a dedicated Natty channel?
[21:49] <ThinkT510> !natty
[21:49] <J697> In am trying to keep my computer for going idle after say 20 minutes so I can leave it to download something like a large file. How can I do this?
[21:50] <aVirulence> ThinkT510: thanks
[21:50] <speedy> BashStyle-NG i have everything on system to do compile but one rewuired says at top of script ./configure it says intelligent life not available
[21:50] <frojnd> Hi there. Is there a way to connect to a secure (WEP) wireless network from command line without installing any additional apps? And how?
[21:50] <frojnd> I really need this
[21:51] <Firefishe> |697:  Why wouldn't you just be able to leave your computer and download the file?  Is your computer hibernating or something after 20 minutes?
[21:51] <ThinkT510> J697: try looking under the power settings
[21:51] <tim> Why on system startup does Ubuntu 10.10 show multiple startups?
[21:51] <J697> Fireblasto, yes exactly, well it shuts down actually and ThinkT510, I have but it still does anyway for some reason :|
[21:52] <bastidrazor> tim: do you mean multiple kernel options?
[21:52] <Fireblasto> J697, classic example of failure with that tab key ;)
[21:52] <Firefishe> J697: If it shuts down after 20 minutes, you probably have it set to do so in the power management settings.
[21:52] <Firefishe> bastidrazor: I have, at least, seven kernels on this thing
[21:53] <aeon-ltd> ,
[21:53] <t_j> where can I find info on building packages for ubuntu?
[21:53] <bastidrazor> Firefishe: in synaptic search for linux-image and uninstall the older kernels
[21:53] <ThinkT510> J697: you sure you edited the right settings and applied them, there are seperate settings for battery and ac
[21:53] <Firefishe> bastidrazor: I'm not unaware of them.  Fact is, I sometimes go back just to see what's changed ;).
[21:54] <stiltzkin> hello all, got a problem I'm sure someone can solve in 3 minutes or less
[21:54] <guntbert> !packaging | t_j
[21:54] <Firefishe> stiltzkin: I'll give it a go.
[21:54] <bastidrazor> Firefishe: that is what the changelog is for
[21:55] <Firefishe> bastidrazor: practical testing, however, requires the original kernel...no matter, I usually delete, say, that two oldest after about 6 months.
[21:55] <t_j> ubottu: cool thanks
[21:55] <Firefishe> that two = "the last two"
[21:55] <J697> Fireblasto, I meant more like, the screen goes black after about 5-10 minutes and I have to move the mouse or press space and enter my password, which is annoying, then after 30 more minutes it shuts down,and ThinkT510 I guess I'll look at it again
[21:56] <daxol> hi, I have a dual boot between win7 and ubuntu.. is it possible to make my windows home directory and linux home directory the same? i know i can access my windows files my mounting the partition and then navigating to them, but is it possible to make it so when i open "pictures" in ubuntu it will always show the same contents as opening "my pictures" in windows ?
[21:56] <stiltzkin> Just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on an old PowerMac G4, via the alternate install CD. Install went fine, but when X tries to start I get "Cannot Display This Video Mode" on my monitor
[21:56] <stiltzkin> I suspect this is a framerate issue
[21:56] <t_j> guntbert: ah missed that it was you, thanks for the infor
[21:56] <Firefishe> speedy: Please don't file send me unless you tell me, in advance, what it is you're sending me, please.
[21:56] <t_j> s/r$//
[21:56] <Fireblasto> oh come on, J697, that's twice, fix it or stop using the tab button
[21:56] <tim> Yes I believe that is correct
[21:56] <guntbert> t_j: no problem :)
[21:56] <bastidrazor> daxol: symlink
[21:57] <stiltzkin> Normally I'd edit xorg.conf, but that is apparently deprecated in 10.10
[21:57] <bastidrazor> tim: you can uninstall the older kernels if you don't want them.
[21:57] <speedy> Firefishe: sorry may i send the shot of compile so u can c thanks i promise its ok
[21:57] <stiltzkin> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing as well
[21:57] <Firefishe> speedy:  go ahead and re-send it.
[21:57] <speedy> ok
[21:57] <J697> Fireblasto, I am afraid I don't really understand :\
[21:57] <bastidrazor> stiltzkin: you can still use a xorg.conf if you wish.
[21:57] <stiltzkin> also xrandr just complains "Can't open display"
[21:57] <J697> *what you about the tab
[21:58] <donnib> is it possible to put a delay in the crontab file ?
[21:58] <stiltzkin> bastidrazor, I was just reading that...but I'm not entirely what goes in that file to begin with
[21:58] <donnib> i have a line launching a script but i want a delay of let's say 20 sec, is that possible ?
[21:58] <speedy> Firefishe : will it still compile u think
[21:59] <tim> How do I uninstall the extra kernels?
[21:59] <Fireblasto> J697, you are hitting the tab key on your key board to auto complete names, and it is highlighting me. Make sure you type out the right name and don't just type'fire'
[21:59] <Firefishe> lol
[21:59] <bastidrazor> stiltzkin: just add what you need set.
[21:59] <Firefishe> speedy:  I don't know if that is an actually-needed file.
[21:59] <bastidrazor> tim: in synaptic search for linux-image
[21:59] <Firefishe> speedy:  It may be a bit of linux-build humor
[22:00] <tim> Thanks.
[22:00] <Firefishe> intelligent lift > not available
[22:00] <Firefishe> gads typos
[22:00] <guntbert> tim: use your favourite package manager, look for linux-image and linux-headers
[22:00] <Firefishe> intelligent life > not available
[22:00] <bastidrazor> tim: be sure to leave the current kernel alone.
[22:00] <stiltzkin> bastidrazor, so just the "monitor" section I guess?
[22:00] <speedy> to uninstall extr kernels use ailurus to remove unwanted kernels
[22:00] <J697> Fireblasto, oh lol I jjust noticed Fireblasto and Firefishe lol, sorry :)
[22:00] <tim> One more question.  I have a system that is hanging on the Ubuntu splash screen.  How can I get around that?
[22:01] <Fireblasto> J697, no problem, only problem is that it took 4 highlights on my nick :)
[22:01] <Firefishe> speedy:  Well, all you can do is do `make' and see if it does
[22:01] <Firefishe> speedy:  If it gives you an error, then you'll know.  It doesn't sound like a library to me.
[22:02] <speedy> Firefishe: that is kinda what i was thinking its not needed i have installed it on 2 other machines never seen that b4 and they work fine compile on lucid box
[22:02] <speedy> Firefishe: thanks for the input and help
[22:02] <speedy> i will compile and c if works
[22:03] <tim> I think that I ruined one of my partitions.  I get "Press S to skip or M for manual recovery" at system start.  Can you advise?
[22:03] <Firefishe> speedy:  I'm using lucid, as well.  That type of thing is kind of like kvirc:  There's a place in the config-setup where you can compile the following:  --with-pizza and --with-beer.  All they do is start a small script that does nothing except say it's mixing and baking the ingredients and pulling a draght of your fav brew ;) hee
[22:03] <Firefishe> draught
[22:04] <Firefishe> speedy:  Please tell me if it does.
[22:04] <Firefishe> :)
[22:04] <Firefishe> happy to help
[22:05] <speedy> ok thanks
[22:05] <Fireblasto> tim retrieve any files that you need, and reinstall ubuntu. Simples. Unless you want to try a manual recover, which I don't know what it entails
[22:06] <Firefishe> speedy:  Another clue is the line at the bottom of the configure script end:  "We can't promise to not kill any kittens."  -- Considering that part, I think the first part is a given ;) LOL
[22:06] <speedy> ya i saw that funny humor
[22:07] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: how does reinstalling ubuntu fix a busted partition that may not even contain the OS?
[22:07] <Firefishe> speedy:  Just what is bashstyle-NG anyway?
[22:07] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, I was presuming it was the system partition
[22:07] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: possibly you should ask those sorts of questions before suggesting radical moves.
[22:08] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, yes, but only trying to help :)
[22:08] <speedy> its a bash addon for some nice effects to your existing bash and commandline
[22:08] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: give of the wall advice is not helping.
[22:08] <Firefishe> speedy:  I'll look it up, may be interesting.
[22:08] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor ?
[22:08] <Firefishe> speedy:  If you need more assistance, and I'm here, please ask :)
[22:09] <speedy> ok thanks
[22:09] <Firefishe> yw speedy
[22:09] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: blindly suggesting to reinstall is _far_ from helping
[22:09] <speedy> http://www.nanolx.org/newsnanolx/bashstyle-ng#more-87 link to bashstyle-NG
[22:09] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, well it usually is fool proof, that's why I suggested it
[22:10] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: fool proof? that is the last solution to any problem.
[22:10] <speedy> for everyone new to linux and a great tool try this for the ease of installing and running ur box makes things easy http://code.google.com/p/ailurus/
[22:10] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, not in general, in relation to that problem
[22:11] <morissette> hello, I have a laptop w/ a recently broken screen that I wanted to turn into a file server; it is currently running ubuntu desktop and I was wondering if there was anyway to re-install the server edition over LAN? Also, I want the laptop to stay on with the lid closed, not sure how to do that at all.
[22:11] <bob__283> I was going to suggest tim use the disk manager to check the disk if his system is up
[22:12] <bastidrazor> Fireblasto: you don't even know what the problem was. you assumed. in the future determine the real issue before jumping to a conclusion
[22:14] <Fireblasto> bastidrazor, and I know, I should of gathered more intel. The way in that you suggested that I was unhelpful was not friendly
[22:14] <Firefishe> morrisette:  I'm no expert here, but for the hardware, you may have to find where the lid-switch is, and disconnect it, or remove it, altogether.  That *might* work for keeping the laptop on.
[22:14] <speedy> ok did the ./make build no errors and then ./make install no errors
[22:14] <rumbold1> hrm, what do i do if i opened nautilus while running xmonad? it now just shows the wallpaper. and i can get a context menu. but i cant get rid of nautilus. or at least i dont know how
[22:15] <mang0> Wow loads of people in here :o
[22:15] <[thor]> rumbold1: in a terminal --> ps -A | grep nautilus
[22:15] <morissette> yep, no help yet though :(
[22:16] <morissette> hello, I have a laptop w/ a recently broken screen that I wanted to turn into a file server; it is currently running ubuntu desktop and I was wondering if there was anyway to re-install the server edition over LAN? Also, I want the laptop to stay on with the lid closed, not sure how to do that at all.
[22:16] <guntbert> mang0: welcom,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:16] <[thor]> rumbold1: then --> kill -9 <<PID listed for nautilus>>
[22:16] <guntbert> !repeat | morissette
[22:16] <Mission_Control> I do
[22:16] <Mission_Control> I've had a problem with multimonitor support
[22:16] <mang0> Guntbert: yes im on my phone so let me type this out :)
[22:16] <Mission_Control> I haven't been able to use two graphics cards at the same time
[22:17] <morissette> that's the problem
[22:17] <Mission_Control> that's one of the issues anyhowz
[22:17] <rumbold1> [thor]: i dont have a terminal. (sorry, im a newb)
[22:17] <morissette> you need to use one graphic card
[22:17] <daxol> hi, I have a dual boot between win7 and ubuntu.. is it possible to make my windows home directory and linux home directory the same? i know i can access my windows files my mounting the partition and then navigating to them, but is it possible to make it so when i open "pictures" in ubuntu it will always show the same contents as opening "my pictures" in windows ?
[22:17] <Mission_Control> well that's stupid
[22:17] <[thor]> rumbold1: for example, if the output from ps -A | grep nautilus is : 15549 ?        00:00:17 nautilus
[22:17] <Mission_Control> I have for monitors
[22:17] <ohzie> daxol: this is not a good idea
[22:17] <[thor]> rumbold1: then the PID is 15549
[22:17] <Mission_Control> I can only use two per graphics cards
[22:17] <guntbert> !who > morissette
[22:17] <morissette> okay
[22:17] <iflema> join #archlinux
[22:17] <bastidrazor> morissette: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-locally-over-the-network/
[22:17] <[thor]> rumbold1: CTRL-F2 and then type gnome-terminal
[22:18] <[thor]> rumbold1: sorry.. ALT-F2
[22:18] <ohzie> daxol: It would be very cluttered and having your home partition on an ntfs partition would make at least me nervous
[22:18] <TechniCore> steam is so annoying in ubuntu
[22:18] <ThinkT510> daxol: a good compromise is to have a seperate partition where you put all your files on
[22:18] <Mission_Control> I know it is
[22:19] <Yoinx> this is kinda ubuntu related i guess... I use aptana studio 3 (standalone version), I have it extracted to a "bin" dir in my home directory... I've made a launcher to it and docked it onto my docky launcher.... but the launcher doesn't grab the window and it always sits on the bar for unmanaged windows... anyone ever experience this?
[22:19] <Mission_Control> does anyone know when steam is coming out for linux?
[22:19] <guntbert> !info steam > Mission_Control
[22:19] <stiltzkin> I still can't get the display working, even with xorg.conf
[22:19] <daxol> ohzie oh right, what's wrong with an ntfs partition?
[22:19] <stiltzkin> If I try startx I get "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[22:19] <rumbold1> [thor]: thanks. it's ctrl-alt-f2 though :p
[22:20] <Mission_Control> !info steam > Mission_Control
[22:20] <daxol> ThinkT510 oh ok, what type of file system would that partiton be ?
[22:20] <Mission_Control> I see
[22:20] <[thor]> rumbold1: that will open a different Virtual Terminal
[22:20] <[thor]> rumbold1: ALT-F2 should open the gnomepanel run dialog
[22:20] <morissette> @thor scren
[22:21] <ThinkT510> daxol: either fat32 or ntfs (so windows can read either), i suggest ntfs if you have any files over 4gb
[22:21] <[thor]> morissette: what?
[22:21] <mang0> Okay so guys, im looking for an operating system other then windows, and i thought id try linux. i pick up tech things fairly quickly so that's cool. i just wanted some more info on ubuntu. i have been told it is the best linux version for nubs. why is this?
[22:21] <morissette> [thor]: screen
[22:21] <guntbert> !ot | mang0
[22:21] <stiltzkin> Anyone have any experience with display modes? This is rather frustrating
[22:21] <mang0> Oh sorry
[22:22] <TobalJackson> hello ubuntu channel
[22:22] <dlynes> Is there a way to force a package to get installed?
[22:23] <TobalJackson> I was wondering if someone could take a look at a topic I started on ubuntuforums and possibly give me some guidance?
[22:23] <TobalJackson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10563963#post10563963
[22:23] <dlynes> I've got a package that's telling me i need >= python 2.5 and < python2.6
[22:23] <dlynes> I've got both python 2.5 and python 2.6 installed, so it's refusing to install
[22:23] <guntbert> !here | TobalJackson
[22:23] <[thor]> rumbold1: this is what you should see.. sorta --> http://uppix.net/a/d/5/80b2db8abf0d124453c515d1a28a2.png
[22:24] <TobalJackson> basically, I need to know how to construct a routine in a bash script
[22:24] <daxol> ThinkT510 oh  i see ok then. but even if i had this partition, how would i make ubuntu automatically link to it? e.g. in my ubuntu home directory i want a link to the documents folder on another partition, can this be done? i don't want to have to keep mounting the partition
[22:24] <timmybobcat14> Hi I have a problem opening ubuntu. I have pasted the problem here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:24] <TobalJackson> that will copy recursively a single directory to multiple destinations simultaneously
[22:24] <TobalJackson> guntbert, were you saying you know bash scripting?
[22:25] <guntbert> TobalJackson: in that case you would get better support in #bash, I guess :-)
[22:25] <TobalJackson> ooh!
[22:25] <TobalJackson> thanks guntbert
[22:25] <ThinkT510> daxol: you can set the partition to be automatically mounted at boot
[22:26] <guntbert> dlynes: what package is that? (just curious)
[22:26] <stiltzkin> So, if xorg.conf is gone, where does Ubuntu store display information
[22:26] <Mission_Control> how does linux work out with raid?
[22:26] <Tekku> Good night peeps
[22:26] <Firefishe> dlynes: You must be very very careful about this type of thing, but you can use (and please read the man page for dpkg before doing this): `dpkg -i --force-architecture packagename.deb   (or something like that).  Again, read and check before doing it.
[22:26] <dlynes> guntbert, creepy
[22:27] <Mission_Control> are there any problems that can occure there?
[22:27] <Blue1> Firefishe: sage advice
[22:27] <dlynes> Mission_Control, it works just fine with raid
[22:27] <Mission_Control> ok
[22:27] <Mission_Control> all I wanted to know
[22:27] <Firefishe> Blue1: I've done that before, and had a few problems with weird libraries ;).
[22:27] <dlynes> Mission_Control, and lots of problems can occur there
[22:27] <jonthue> hello i got the following error: installArchives() failed: (Reading database ...
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 5%
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 10%
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 15%
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 20%
[22:27] <FloodBot2> jonthue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <jonthue> (Reading database ... 25%
[22:27] <guntbert> dlynes: creepy? that package doesn't exist in maverick
[22:27] <rww> stiltzkin: It doesn't. Xorg autodetects display information, input devices, etc., when it's started.
[22:27] <kawet> hi
[22:27] <kawet> xd
[22:28] <dlynes> guntbert, it's a ppa archive
[22:28] <Mission_Control> oh
[22:28] <Blue1> Firefishe: ditto - i had to do that with lightscribe -- you can break linux if you aren't careful.
[22:28] <Mission_Control> ok
[22:28] <Mission_Control> cause I just thought it being more of a hardware thing
[22:28] <guntbert> dlynes: then I suggest you ask the maintainer of that ppa
[22:28] <jonthue> i am having a hard time updating anything
[22:28] <Mission_Control> I just wondered if there might be any problems when it comes to ubuntu and raid
[22:28] <Firefishe> Blue1: You know, my Asus G50V lappie here *does* have lightscribe, but I've never tried it.
[22:29] <Fredrick> when installing a new server, what is "Landscape"? in regards to automatic updates
[22:29] <dlynes> Mission_Control, a lot of software that the average person doesn't use can have lots of problems
[22:29] <stiltzkin> rww, what is the logic behind that? So if the display is detected incorrectly, I can't make any changes to correct the problem
[22:29] <dlynes> Mission_Control, are you talking about hardware-based raid specifically?
[22:29] <dlynes> Mission_Control, or are you talking pure software raid?
[22:29] <Blue1> Firefishe: I had to retro that onto a 64 bit system.  it works well as long as you install the ia32 libs.
[22:29] <dlynes> Mission_Control, or are you talking more winraid?
[22:30] <lkd> t
[22:30] <timmybobcat14> It seems such a simple problem if I was a techy I am sure a few keystrokes and it would be solved...http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:30] <rww> stiltzkin: If you create an xorg.conf with the configuration settings you need, it'll read that instead.
[22:30] <Mission_Control> I really don't know
[22:30] <dlynes> Mission_Control, how were you planning to implement raid?
[22:30] <Mission_Control> I have no experience with it
[22:30] <Firefishe> Blue1: I'm using 64bit ubuntu 10.04.  Also *with* the ia23libs installed.  A lot of software needs them, so I just put 'em in when I install a new system.
[22:30] <Mission_Control> but when I do I want to do it with both windows and ubuntu
[22:30] <dlynes> Mission_Control, ah...then what makes you think you need it?
[22:31] <Mission_Control> faster connection
[22:31] <dlynes> Mission_Control, you mean faster throughput?
[22:31] <Fredrick> what is landscape? its in the installer, on the automatic updates screen
[22:31] <inside-out-bunny> timmybobcat14: did you have anything important on your /home partition? b/c it sounds like a bad drive
[22:31] <Blue1> Firefishe: yup.  if not too personal where ru from?  I'm in tucson, az
[22:31] <Mission_Control> yeah
[22:31] <dlynes> Mission_Control, so you don't care about data integrity then?  Just pure speed?
[22:31] <Firefishe> Blue1:  Let's take personal chat to query, k?
[22:31] <Mission_Control> well
[22:31] <Blue1> sure
[22:31] <Mission_Control> I was thinking about raid 1+0
[22:32] <dlynes> Mission_Control, pure speed would be raid 0
[22:32] <dlynes> Mission_Control, pure data integrity would be raid 1
[22:32] <Mission_Control> that's striped raid
[22:32] <Mission_Control> and then mirrored for raid 1
[22:32] <dlynes> Mission_Control, a nice mix of the two would be raid 5
[22:32] <dlynes> Mission_Control, however, for raid 5, you need at least three drives
[22:32] <timmybobcat14> inside-out-bunny is that another way of saying I need to reinstall it all again: I can access my home directory no problem.
[22:32] <Mission_Control> it would be either 1+0 or raid 5 depending on whether I'll get a raid contoller
[22:32] <theorem> silly question, I can;t seem to mount my DVD drive after I've just put something in the drive -- what is preventing me from doing this ?
[22:33] <Mission_Control> you need a raid controller for raid 5
[22:33] <dlynes> Mission_Control, you do not
[22:33] <theorem> dlynes is correct.
[22:33] <stiltzkin> rww, that's what I did, but I'm not sure what the settings I need are. I tried a sample configuration that should be compatible with my monitor but I get "Fatal server error: no screens found" if I try to startx
[22:33] <malibu> Ok.. dumb question.. does the show desktop shortcut for anyone else but me default to plain letter 'D' ???
[22:33] <dlynes> Mission_Control, but, if you want the same data to be able to be read by both windows and linux
[22:33] <timmybobcat14> inside-out-bunny - I obviously doen't know how to check my permissions or would probably have solved the problem
[22:33] <timmybobcat14> by now
[22:33] <stiltzkin> also, is this related to the fact that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now appears to do nothing?
[22:33] <dlynes> Mission_Control, it doesn't matter raid 0, 1, 5, ..., you're going to need a raid controller card
[22:34] <stiltzkin> that usually fixed all of my problems when I had display issues in the past
[22:34] <theorem> dlynes: there you are incorrect.
[22:34] <Mission_Control> unless your motherboard supports raid
[22:34] <theorem> dlynes: you never *need* a RAID card.
[22:34] <Mission_Control> it should do both raid 1 and 0
[22:34] <theorem> Mission_Control: certainly not.   you can do it all in software.  it's just harder.
[22:34] <dlynes> theorem, so how do you do software raid in linux that's compatible with windows?
[22:34] <alexantemachina> hi all
[22:34] <timmybobcat14> How does one check one's "permissions"?
[22:34] <Mission_Control> I don't know
[22:34] <theorem> dlynes: dlynes :  not compat with windows.  who runs that ?
[22:34] <Fredrick> it seems that landscape is for managing huge clouds of servers, is this true?
[22:34] <theorem> ;-)
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> "The disk drive for /home is not ready yet or not present.
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> Continue to wait; or press S to skip or M for manual recovery"
[22:35] <dlynes> Mission_Control, motherboard is still hardware raid (assuming you're not talking about intel bios raid aka winraid)
[22:35] <malibu> dlynes: Set up a software raid on a linux server, intstall samba, share volumes with windows
[22:35] <Mission_Control> in the event that I can't use the two I'll just have to pick which operating system I want
[22:35] <theorem> you want linux.
[22:35] <Fredrick> !Linux
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> If I choose to press S I can log in but then I get theses 2 messages and have to reboot:
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> "Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[22:35] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[22:35] <dlynes> malibu, "<Mission_Control> but when I do I want to do it with both windows and ubuntu"
[22:35]  * theorem rolls his eyes.
[22:36] <Fredrick> oh, i thought that would be more like " Lunix FTW!"
[22:36] <ThinkT510> theorem: thats his decision to make
[22:36] <dlynes> malibu, whether he means both on the same machine, or across the network, i have no idea
[22:36] <alexantemachina> I'd like to know wether the dock/bar on the left on unity can be configured somehow.
[22:36] <theorem> naturally
[22:36] <Mission_Control> hmm
[22:36] <theorem> but I didn;t come in here to discuss these merits.
[22:36] <timmybobcat14> When I click ok I get a further message box which states:
[22:36] <timmybobcat14> Nautilus could not create the following required folder: /home/myname/Desktop; /home/myname/.nautilus
[22:36] <theorem> :-.
[22:36] <peter_felching> Hi. What do I need to install in order to enable synaptics multitouch? I am not interested in hacking xorg.conf (it crashes anyway), and I knew that some synaptics driver can deliver this function since I installed it once.
[22:36] <theorem> just a rediculous DVD drive problem ...
[22:36] <theorem> *ridiculous
[22:36] <shawnboy> Anyone heard anything lately about ZFS in Linux (if/when, etc)?
[22:36] <timmybobcat14> http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:37] <theorem> shawnboy: grab FreeBSD, it's supported now.
[22:37] <Fredrick> peter_felching, what OS and Version are you using?
[22:37] <theorem> shawnboy: ZFS on linux is done via FUSE
[22:37] <peter_felching> Fredrick, I am using regular 10.10
[22:37] <Fredrick> ubuntu? or ubuntu server?
[22:37] <timmybobcat14> Surely someone must know the answer?
[22:37] <Mission_Control> I've also had another question about hardware
[22:37] <peter_felching> Fredrick, desktop.
[22:38] <shawnboy> theorem: that's where I heard about it (I run FreeNAS), but I've spent 1.5 learning linux. I'm a dope with BSD.
[22:38] <timmybobcat14> It seems like a fairly simple and maybe common? problem
[22:38] <Mission_Control> can you do raid between drives of different capacity?
[22:38] <Fredrick> this is ubuntu-server, for servers
[22:38] <suicidolt> good even ubuntu-ers.  This is my first time using Ubuntu :)
[22:38] <suicidolt> before I ask my 9-million questions, first, let me ask....anything I should know?
[22:38] <theorem> shawnboy: it's very similar, you'll like 'ports'
[22:38] <timmybobcat14> Ah but is there a simple and common solution?
[22:38] <alexantemachina> well, there is a first time for anything in live, suicidolt
[22:38] <malibu> suicidolt: Wow your first time using ubuntu and you found IRC too?? Congrats!!
[22:38] <Fredrick> NEVER use root, use sudo, suicidolt
[22:38] <peter_felching> Fredrick, I am not sure we understand each other.
[22:38] <dlynes> suicidolt, how about what you want to do/use ubuntu for, would be a good start
[22:38] <timmybobcat14> Remedy?
[22:39] <cool_is_cool> asd
[22:39] <ThinkT510> !manual | suicidolt
[22:39] <alexantemachina> nah.. use "su"
[22:39] <Fredrick> wait, im on ubuntu?! i thought i was on ubuntu-server, sorry people
[22:39] <olivier> hi room
[22:39] <shawnboy> theorem: so you think if I dug in... that if I feel fairly comfortable in Ubuntu now, that I'd pick up on BSD fairly easy?
[22:39] <olivier> any french chatroom ?
[22:39] <timmybobcat14> I have pasted the problem here. Any helpful solutions welcomed: Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:39] <malibu> What IS the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server?
[22:39] <rww> !fr | olivier
[22:40] <theorem> shawnboy: are you familiar with CLI ?
[22:40] <olivier> tkx
[22:40] <shendai> testing - please disregard
[22:40] <shawnboy> theorem: very familiar with CLI, not a guru though.
[22:40] <theorem> shawnboy: you'll likely do fine then
[22:40] <olivier> server is generally minimal install, with many deamons preinstaller
[22:40] <phoenixsampras> oliver_: pute le merde, coman ta le vou
[22:40] <theorem> shawnboy: run it a VM if you're scared.  it's very familiar
[22:41] <shawnboy> theorem: I may give it a spin. Got Ubuntu on most my machines, DSL on ancient laptop, Yellow Dog Linux on PS3, and running FreeNAS on old heap.
[22:41] <theorem> shawnboy: FreeBSD should run on any of those
[22:42] <theorem> shawnboy: and the ZFS guides make things a snap.
[22:42] <shawnboy> theorem: I like when things are snap.
[22:42] <alberto> Hello, does anybody know anything about using VST Instruments on Ubuntu via Jack?
[22:42] <shawnboy> theorem: I really like guides.
[22:42] <timmybobcat14> How does one check one's "permissions"?
[22:43] <AnubArack> How can I fix my video playback on 10.10 ? It's a bit croppy at times, like 1/4 of the screen desyncs while the scene is moving
[22:43] <alberto> I mean I just can't make them work
[22:43] <ThinkT510> !permissions | timmybobcat14
[22:43] <suicidolt> thanks alexantemachina malibu Fredrick and ThinkT510.  dlynes I am currently just trying to get a feel for it.  I am using a netbook though, so some things are extremely confusing
[22:43] <shawnboy> theorem: thanks for feedback. have a good one.
[22:43] <theorem> you too
[22:43] <coz_> hey agll
[22:43] <Firefishe> alberto:  VST are the instrument *files* for whatever synth you're using them with, correct?
[22:43] <coz_>  rather hey all
[22:44] <dlynes> suicidolt, some newer laptops may or may not have incompatible hardware
[22:44] <alexantemachina> lol... suicidolt, unity is confusing to me too
[22:44] <timmybobcat14> ThinkT510ubottu  - cheers
[22:44] <alexantemachina> dunno how to configure that sidebar
[22:44] <Firefishe> hey coz_
[22:44] <alberto> Firefishe Yes, I suppose
[22:44] <alexantemachina> can anybody pleeez tell me?
[22:44] <coz_> Firefishe,  hey guy
[22:44] <alberto> Firefishe Yes, that's right, definitely.
[22:44] <timmybobcat14> I have pasted the problem here. Any helpful solutions welcomed: Thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:44] <Firefishe> alberto:  Are you trying to use a particular synth?
[22:45] <ThinkT510> !unity | alexantemachina
[22:45] <alberto> Firefishe I've been actually trying to use plenty of them, none of them working...
[22:45] <timmybobcat14> Nautilus could not create the following required folder: /home/myname/Desktop; /home/myname/.nautilus
[22:45] <timmybobcat14> There is a problem with the configuration service (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfpsanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[22:46] <alberto> Firefishe What I'm really trying to do is connecting Windows VST Instruments via Wine and dssi-vst through Jack server
[22:46] <rreyes> hi all... my laptop overheats with ubuntu 10.10... any ideas on what could it be?   Unless there's a specific project targeting that, I'm afraid I can't help you.
[22:47] <Firefishe> alberto: I've played around with linux-native stuff for VST, but never using wine for something like that.
[22:47] <timmybobcat14> coz- hi. So what is the distro upgrade-a download again of the lates kernel??
[22:47] <alberto> Firefishe Are there any native VST instruments for linux?
[22:48] <dlynes> Isn't apt-get --force-yes supposed to ignore dependencies?
[22:48] <Firefishe> alberto: www.linux-vst.com has some
[22:48] <Jordan_U> dlynes: No. And it's not generally a good idea to use --force-yes or to try to ignore dependencies. What are you trying to accomplish?
[22:49] <olivier> is there any solaris room ?
[22:49] <alberto> Firefishe Are they really "instruments"? And above all, are they free?
[22:49] <iceroot> olivier: try #solaris or any other strings
[22:49] <ohzie> A friend of mine was talking about Apache Tomcat: gpmidi: hey guys, we put a webserver on your webserver so you can proxy while you serve
[22:49] <timmybobcat14> COZ_ - is that code for reinstall it all again (yet again?) : b
[22:49] <dlynes> Jordan_U, install a package that says   creepy: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed, even though both python 2.5 and python 2.6 are installed
[22:49] <ohzie> I found this funny. ( ;_;)
[22:49] <timmybobcat14> coz_ - is that code for reinstall it all again (yet again?) : b
[22:50] <coz_> timmybobcat14,  no that will update or upgrade any libraries or packages  for the system you have already
[22:50] <dlynes> Jordan_U, and its dependency line looks like this:  Depends: python (>= 2.5), python (<< 2.6), python-support (>= 0.7.1), osm-gps-map, python-simplejson, python-osmgpsmap (>= 0.7), python-beautifulsoup, python-pyexiv2, python-configobj, python-setuptools
[22:50] <Firefishe> alberto: some are, some aren't
[22:50] <Firefishe> alberto:  some synth products have to be purchased.
[22:50] <alberto> Firefishe Thank you very much... By the way, check this out ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1s3Dk5sGo
[22:50] <Firefishe> alberto:  Thank you, I will :)
[22:51] <Jordan_U> dlynes: What is creepy?
[22:51] <dlynes> Jordan_U, http://freshmeat.net/projects/creepy
[22:51] <timmybobcat14> coz_ ok I have just run update now.
[22:51] <dlynes> Jordan_U, A research tool
[22:51] <peter_felching> Hi. What do I need to install in order to enable synaptics multitouch? I am not interested in hacking xorg.conf (it crashes anyway), and I knew that some synaptics driver can deliver this function since I installed it once.
[22:52] <alberto> Firefishe He gets that VST plug-in to work with Wine and dssi-vst... Although it seems to be very tricky...
[22:53] <timmybobcat14> coz_ - this is the result of sudo apt-get distro upgrade: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:53] <suicidolt> First question, my touchpad no longer has multitouch.  I found a website: http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html  but it's greek to me
[22:54] <Jordan_U> dlynes: I just tried adding the ppa on my 10.10 system and installing creepy has no dependency problem here.
[22:54] <Firefishe> alberto: is Addictive Drums windows software?
[22:54] <timmybobcat14> coz_ -maybe just the sudo apt-get update has done the trick (but I'm not too hopeful)
[22:54] <dlynes> Jordan_U, yeah...trying to install it on 9.04 here
[22:54] <coz_> timmybobcat14,  if it didnt update or upgrade anything then the issue probably isnt solved
[22:54] <Jordan_U> dlynes: 9.04 is no longer supported.
[22:54] <Jordan_U> !eol | dlynes
[22:54] <natrixnatrix89> All wifi routers and accespoints are based on linux, right? Does anyonw know a way to turn your ubuntu pc in a wifi router or ap?
[22:54] <dlynes> Jordan_U, yeah...everyone keeps telling me that
[22:55] <alberto> Firefishe I think it is... Nevertheless, the user describes what he uses to get that working...  What about the permissions route-do you think the solution might lie there? Oh if only I was a techy!
[22:55] <alberto> Firefishe Therefore Addictive Drums must be made for Windows / Mac platforms...
[22:55] <Jordan_U> dlynes: That's because 1: You shouldn't be running an OS without security updates and 2: "No longer supported" means that we don't support it.
[22:55] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: Some are linux based, some are not.
[22:55] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: still struggling with the .ICEauthority thing?
[22:56] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: using a linux pc as an access point is possible, but it depends on your hardware.
[22:56] <dlynes> Jordan_U, w/o security updates is relative, considering it's on a closed network, without internet
[22:56] <Jordan_U> dlynes: Why are you using 9.04 still?
[22:56] <natrixnatrix89> ohzie: because some wifi cards don't support it?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> dlynes: That still doesn't change point #2. We don't support unsupported releases.
[22:56] <dlynes> Jordan_U, because the platform is stable on 9.04, and we haven't worked the kinks out of 10.04 yet
[22:56] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: Because the drivers don't support it
[22:56] <natrixnatrix89> right
[22:56] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: any hardware is capable of it
[22:56] <ohzie> it's the driver that's the difficult part
[22:56] <natrixnatrix89> yeah
[22:57] <Firefishe> alberto:  I'll peruse is a bit more.  Now I'm interested.
[22:57] <natrixnatrix89> but I've been searching for programs on ubuntu that would do it. but it seems impossible to find one..
[22:57] <AnubArack> How can I fix my video playback on 10.10 ? It's a bit cropy at times, like 1/4 of the screen desyncs while the scene is moving
[22:57] <Firefishe> alberto: Also, for you--and all who are interested--here's the page for the product, itself.  Might be useful.  http://www.xlnaudio.com/?page=products&p_page=addictivedrums
[22:57] <dlynes> Jordan_U, there's a few kinks with plymouth, gdm/xdm and 10.04 for our autoinstaller for pxeboot-based installs
[22:57] <Jordan_U> dlynes: If you want to use 9.04 you're on your own. We can probably help you with getting the kinks worked out with 10.04 though.
[22:57] <timmybobcat14> Loshki- yes. Any ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[22:58] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: There are no one-click software suites. It takes some work and patience and a lot of learning.
[22:58] <alberto> Firefishe Thank you very much.
[22:58] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: here is a guide: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/nethub/article.php/3463611/Build-A-Linux-Based--Wireless-Access-Point.htm
[22:58] <Firefishe> alberto: I absolutely love synth stuff.  I'm a keyboardist, and I love pads, techno, and lots of new-age/dreamy stuff.  I just wish it were a little easier to set up in linux.
[22:58] <question_> is there a basic beginner channel that i can ask simple questions without looking dumb?
[22:58] <dlynes> Jordan_U, yeah...unfortunately i'm not the one that gets to triage what's important and what's not for our product lifecycle
[22:58] <ohzie> question_: this one
[22:58] <Firefishe> alberto:  you're welcome.  happy to help :)
[22:58] <natrixnatrix89> ohzie: thanks but will it support infrastructure mode?
[22:58] <Firefishe> question_: Just ask.
[22:58] <olivier> don't worry 'bout looking dumb, just ask ;)
[22:58] <natrixnatrix89> because ad-hoc is not recognized by many devices
[22:58] <ohzie> natrixnatrix89: That depends on your hardware and what drive you use.
[22:58] <dlynes> Jordan_U, upgrading to 10.04 is important, but it's about 30 tasks down from the top of the mole hill right now
[22:58] <timmybobcat14> "Could not update ICE Authority file /home/myname/.ICEauthority"
[22:58] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/iceauthority-error-in-ubuntu-8-10-a-681312/ -- the post by arizonagroovejet is what I'd try next...
[22:59] <Zahrada> I've got a quick question.
[22:59] <natrixnatrix89> ohzie: for example my cell phone is android. And its so easy to turn that in ap. just click enable tethering. and it becomes a wifi hotspot, and shares the internet from its 3g
[22:59] <Loshki> !ask | Zahrada
[22:59] <question_> i am kind of confused about using the /join channel vs what is already on the right side of this page in orange and in white
[22:59] <Jordan_U> dlynes: Unfortunately your corporate policies do not change this channel's policies. We do not support 9.04 here. Period.
[23:00] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-looks like I'm going to have to-try it I mean. All very trying really ain't it with linux...: B
[23:00] <Zahrada> Assuming /boot contains everything you need to get the os booting (grub included, I hope), how large does a partition have to be to contain it?
[23:00] <dlynes> Jordan_U, ah...thought that was just a ubuntu policy, not necessarily a channel policy
[23:00] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: either you like diy computing or you don't :-)
[23:01] <ohzie> Zahrada: I shoot for 100MB usually. That gives it room for a few kernels
[23:01] <question_> did anyone see my question? thanks
[23:01] <Zahrada> Thanks.
[23:01] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-Well I wouldn't buy a motorcar if I was going to have be diying it all the time. Would you?
[23:01] <ohzie> question_: Not sure what you're asking
[23:02] <Zahrada> I'm really just starting to explore Linux (through Ubuntu), as my old platform just doesn't do the trick anymore (OS/2)
[23:02] <question_> how do i go about joining c=a channel on the right side of this page. double click in the channel?
[23:02] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: some people would buy a motorcar just so they could fiddle with it...
[23:02] <Zahrada> And I must say, it's awesome.
[23:02] <ohzie> question_: what page
[23:03] <Thedemon007> Hola alguien habla español?
[23:03] <rww> !es | Thedemon007
[23:03] <question_> on the right side here with different channels. i see users on top and channels on the bottom.
[23:03] <naeluh> hi I am trying to update my mysql database from 5.0 to 5.1 and I having some serious problems any one know where ther eis some good documentation or know how to do this
[23:03] <suicidolt> wow, all these computer experts and nobody knows the answer...
[23:04] <naeluh> I am running ubuntu 9.04
[23:04] <xangua> !attitude | suicidolt
[23:04] <xangua> naeluh: upgrade to a stable and supported release, served ;)
[23:04] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-I know but so many people wouldn't either because they haven't got the time, or the mind power, or just simply want something that will take them confortably from point a to point b with having to get under the bonnet every 5 minutes.
[23:05] <suicidolt> sorry xangua
[23:05] <rww> naeluh: Ubuntu 9.04 reached end-of-life status in October 2010, and is no longer supported in this channel. Please see the EOL Upgrade information ubottu's about to send you.
[23:05] <ohzie> question_: 'here' is a noun usually defined by being in a similar location, or pointing, or something indicating what 'here' is representing, as a word. I don't understand where your 'here' is.
[23:05] <rww> !eol > naeluh
[23:05] <Zahrada> anyhoo I'm off
[23:06] <Zahrada> thanks for the help (and all the fish, I suppose?)
[23:06] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-you can see-well I certainly can why a lot of ordinary people would give up on lnx and go for the comercial competitor.
[23:07] <timmybobcat14> Oh well guess it's reinstall nunber 106 again then...
[23:07] <Loshki> timmybobcat14: linux is not for everyone. There's no shame in going to an 'alternative' if that suits you better....
[23:08] <suicidolt> My touchpad no longer has multitouch.  I found a website: http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2009/03/multi-touch-for-anyall-synaptics.html  but it's greek to me
[23:08] <Murtoc> hey i need help
[23:09] <naeluh> does it matter if I am a server and not a computer?
[23:09] <ohzie> naeluh: a server is a computer, isn't it?
[23:09] <Murtoc> I was running SSH fine and after i stoped my apatche server i cannot ssh into my computer
[23:09] <naeluh> I mean I am on a cloud server
[23:09] <timmybobcat14> Loshki-you mean like buying motor car that won't break down every 5 mintues or that you don't need a degree in mechinacal engineering  in order to keep working. No no shame at all-common sense really at the end of the day.
[23:10] <ohzie> naeluh: you're on a virtual machine
[23:10] <rww> naeluh: no, 9.04 isn't LTS, so the end-of-life deadline is 18 months from release for server and desktop.
[23:10] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: What were you doing with Ubuntu when it broke
[23:10] <mdkess> Question: Say I have a file that has a bunch of multiple line records separated by '----'. Each record has a "Date=234343434323" line with an epoch timestamp on it. Is there any way that I can sort the records in this file by date (without having to write a perl script or such)?
[23:10] <naeluh> rww: cool thanks
[23:11] <s5fs> suicidolt: what part is greek?
[23:12] <oven_> dumb question, but can someone tell me if I installed 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu
[23:12] <oven_> here is my uname -a results, Linux oven 2.6.35-27-generic-pae #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 22 21:46:58 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:12] <s5fs> oven_: looks 32bit to me
[23:12] <mdkess> oven_, try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:12] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- is it broke? Isn't there a simple solution to the problem? I am after all using it to reply to you-albeit in limited failsafe graphics mode. I suspect the problem arose in my ham fisted attempt to manually install it on my hard drive. But of course Ubuntu was broke before I made that attempt but that again was something that I suspect could have been easily corrected if I paid an technician to come to my haouse and  repair
[23:12] <timmybobcat14>  it.
[23:13] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[23:13] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: What I mean is, what is the problem that you are currently experiencing.
[23:13] <Murtoc> i am not able to ssh into a computer after i shut down the apatche2 server i had on that computer
[23:13] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- http://paste.ubuntu.com/580807/
[23:13] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: Hold please.
 what am I looking for in those results? I know I have a 64 bit processor but I think the disc I just used might have been 32 bit accidentally
[23:14] <mdkess> oven_ err I mean /proc/version
[23:14] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: did you encrypt your home partition on install?
[23:14] <suicidolt> s5fs: what is it asking me to do?
[23:14] <Murtoc> no
[23:15] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ha ha ha I wouldn't know how. Unless I did so by accident.
[23:15] <oven_> cat /proc/version
[23:15] <oven_> Linux version 2.6.35-27-generic-pae (buildd@palmer) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu5) ) #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 22 21:46:58 UTC 2011
[23:15] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-how about my permissions-do you think the answer lies there?
[23:15] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: It actually asks you "do you want to encrypt your home partition?"
[23:15] <hihihi100> k
[23:15] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: it's very simple but can cause problems if your hardware hates it
[23:16] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: what are the other sdb partitions doing?
[23:16] <mdkess> oven_ that's a 32 bit kernel, same as uname -a I guess.
[23:16] <pylix> how do i redirect the terminals output to a txt file?
[23:16] <timmybobcat14> ozie-let me just start gparted...
[23:16] <oven_> yeah alright, thanks
[23:16] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: for that matter, what is sda doing
[23:16] <s5fs> suicidolt: well, first off, are you certain that your hardware supports multitouch?
[23:17] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: is this a very complicated multiboot?
[23:17] <suicidolt> yes, it was working in windows
[23:17] <mdkess> oven_ if it was 64 bits, it should say something like i686_64 at the end of the uname -a line
[23:17] <s5fs> suicidolt: okay, but it hasn't worked in linux so far?
[23:17] <suicidolt> it didn't work automatically, but that seems standard
[23:18] <s5fs> oven_: here's my uname -a, i'm a 64bit system
[23:18] <s5fs> oven_: Linux zoidberg 2.6.35-27-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 22 20:25:46 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:19] <s5fs> suicidolt: okay, the article is essentially a step-by-step
[23:19] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - the machine has two hard drives: sda with linux mint 10, and this drive sdb which has Ubuntu 1004 and ubuntu 9.04 and a broken ubuntu 8.04 on it. This Ubuntu 10.04 has the problem. The 9.04 works very well with no problems
[23:19] <s5fs> suicidolt: you create a new file, paste the crap from the article into the file, save it, then run a command
[23:19] <oven_> thanks. I'm going to burn a new disc and reinstall I guess
[23:20] <suicidolt> right, I guess there's 2 concerns here on my end.  1: how do I do what it's telling me to do (where do I go, etc) and 2: what is it doing, so I don't mess up my system doing something I don't understand
[23:20] <s5fs> suicidolt: ah, that's a better question :-D
[23:21] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: Can you mount your home partition?
[23:21] <s5fs> suicidolt: i'll be honest, i'm not exactly sure what is going on in the article, but i am willing to hazard a guess.
[23:21] <suicidolt> can we start with where I go to type in all that stuff?
[23:21] <s5fs> suicidolt: it appears that you are creating some sort of policy file, placing it into a specific location, and then restarting the service that will read that config and enable multitouch
[23:22] <Murtoc> need ssh help
[23:22] <ohzie> Murtoc: what's wrong?
[23:22] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- gparted is telling me mounted on /home
[23:22] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: close gparted and open up a terminal
[23:22] <s5fs> suicidolt: pathing is in the commands already. so, go ahead and open up a terminal and then paste in the first command (the gksudo gedit /etc/hal line)
[23:23] <Murtoc> ever sence my friend stoped my apatche server i cant ssh into that computer
[23:23] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- ok
[23:23] <suicidolt> ok, and that is creating the file? where is the file so I can find it later?
[23:23] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-opened
[23:23] <suicidolt> side note -- just found out where the terminal was
[23:23] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: df -h
[23:23] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: gimme the sdb7 line
[23:24] <s5fs> suicidolt: here's the command, let's break it down:  "gksudo gedit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi"
[23:24] <s5fs> suicidolt: gksudo will enable your user to run as "root"
[23:24] <s5fs> suicidolt: gedit is the text editor you will be using
[23:24] <suicidolt> so gksudo differs from sudo how?
[23:24] <s5fs> suicidolt: beats me, can't say i use it
[23:25] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-        /dev/sdb7              63G  251M   59G   1% /home
[23:25]  * suicidolt facepalms.
[23:25] <ohzie> suicidolt: gnome toolkit
[23:25] <s5fs> suicidolt: i'd say you can probably safely use regular sudo
[23:25] <ohzie> suicidolt: it's graphical sudo
[23:25] <ohzie> s5fs: in terminal yes but not in run
[23:25] <suicidolt> what does that mean ohzie?
[23:25] <s5fs> suicidolt: look man, i don't admin gui systems, i don't know everything.
[23:25] <ohzie> suicidolt: it means pictures
[23:25] <suicidolt> I know what graphical means
[23:26] <suicidolt> what is the difference between sudo and graphical sudo? what is its application?
[23:26] <s5fs> suicidolt: sounds like its what you wanna do when you use "run" (alt-f2)
[23:26] <ohzie> suicidolt: open a terminal and run sudo gedit. Then run gksu gedit. That's the difference
[23:26] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - sorry hadn't closed gparted                          /dev/sdb7              63G  251M   59G   1% /home
[23:26] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: no that's fine
[23:27] <s5fs> suicidolt: however, if you are running from a console then sudo is fine
[23:27] <suicidolt> ok, thanks
[23:27] <suicidolt> that makes sense now
[23:27] <suicidolt> ok
[23:27] <suicidolt> thanks s5fs
[23:27] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: type "cd ~" and then do "cd .." and then "ls -o"
[23:27] <s5fs> suicidolt: np. the last argument to the command is the full path to the file.
[23:28] <s5fs> suicidolt: so, assuming you create the file, paste the stuff in and it doesn't work, i think you can just delete the file and restart hal
[23:28] <Murtoc> need ssh help
[23:28] <thebigham> I'm thinking about switching to ubuntu. But are there any program for c++ programming ??
[23:28] <sexysara> quick question here... I been used to use Ubuntu 9.04, now I use Lucid.... is it better to stay on a LTS release or non LTS?
[23:28] <sexysara> using*
[23:29] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok done that
[23:29] <s5fs> sexysara: how long do you go between reinstalls?
[23:29] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: give me the line for your home directory
[23:29] <lighta> thebigham, , eclipse, netbeans, codeblocks... what do you need ?
[23:29] <sexysara> this is my second install as it were
[23:29] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: the front part is the important part, the letters and dashes
[23:29] <rww> sexysara: LTS, if you update infrequently enough that you were still on Ubuntu 9.04.
[23:29] <Firefishe> thebigham: There are many ways to program in c++ using ubuntu.  I use an IDE called Code::Blocks, for example.
[23:30] <Fredrick> what is a lamp server used for? i was told i should add it to my desktop insta
[23:30] <timmybobcat14> ohzie -                  drwxr-xr-x 30 mal   4096 2011-03-15 23:02
[23:30] <Fredrick> install**
[23:30] <sexysara> I sued 9.04 of 2 months, then I did a clean install for Luicd.... not sure if I should stay here or upgrade to Mavrick
[23:30] <sexysara> used*
[23:30] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: the first char determines what the file is. - for a regular file, d for a directory, other things for other things
[23:30] <s5fs> Fredrick: lamp is a web server
[23:30] <s5fs> Fredrick: it stands for "linux, apache, mysql, php"
[23:30] <Murtoc> can anyone help me with ym ssh problem
[23:30] <Hilikus> hey guys
[23:31] <Murtoc> hi
[23:31] <Hilikus> to run windows games what's better, wine or virtualbox?
[23:31] <Fredrick> oh, why would i want that in my desktp, and not a server? thanks s5fs
[23:31] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: the next characters come in three sets of three, read, write, and execute. the first set is you, the second is your group, the third is everyone else. the last character is the sticky bit. Don't worry about the sticky bit until later. It's complicated and varies from flavor to flavor.
[23:31] <Murtoc> you guys are useless
[23:31] <s5fs_away> Fredrick: helpful if you are doing local web development
[23:32] <Counterspell> Can Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit support 6GB of RAM?
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: no
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: I mean it'll run, it won't break
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: but it won't use all your ram
[23:32] <rww> Counterspell: With PAE, which is enabled by default if it detects you need it, yes.
[23:32] <Counterspell> ohzie, that's what i thought, why is 64-bit "recommended"?
[23:32] <rww> !pae
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: so you can use all your ram
[23:32] <ohzie> Counterspell: Duh. :-P
[23:33] <rww> Counterspell: 32-bit is recommended on the Downloads page because a lot more consumer computers support 32-bit than 64-bit.
[23:33] <Counterspell> ohzie, no i mean 32-bit lol sorry
[23:33] <rww> Counterspell: if your computer works with 64-bit, get 64-bit.
[23:33] <Counterspell> i see
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: Oh because 64 bit introduces some complications.
[23:33] <Counterspell> thanks for the info
[23:33] <Counterspell> i am currently running 10.04 64-bit
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: not all apps have working 64 bit builds.
[23:33] <Counterspell> but i am having trouble with Wacom drivers
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: don't switch to 32 unless you have problems
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: and even then, there are ways to run the 32 bit apps in a chroot
[23:33] <ohzie> Counterspell: with 32 bit libraries
[23:34] <ohzie> Counterspell: and if you're willing to put up with that, it's so much better for your system to run 64 bit.
[23:34] <Counterspell> which Xorg comes with 10.10?
[23:34] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: do me a favor
[23:34] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: you're still in /home right?
[23:34] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok em does it look like I have the 3 sets of three there.  I also have a lost + found folder for some reason in this home directory. Is that usual?
[23:34] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- yes still in home
[23:35] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: yes
[23:35] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: the lost and found is normal because you've set your home aside as a separate partition
[23:35] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: every partition should have its own, more or less
[23:35] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok. What do you want me to do?
[23:35] <dacaro> hi i need help, how can i active extra visual effect ?
[23:36] <Hilikus> to run windows games what's better, wine or virtualbox?
[23:36] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: sec
[23:36] <ohzie> I want to make sure I have this exactly right
[23:36] <dacaro> somebody help me?
[23:36] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- that's important : b
[23:37] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: and your home folder is /home/mal ?
[23:37] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- correct
[23:37] <dacaro> please help me...
[23:37] <dacaro> grrrrr...
[23:37] <rww> !helpme
[23:37] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: "sudo chown -R mal:mal /home/mal" then "sudo chmod -R 770 /home/mal"
[23:37] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: that will fix any permission issues you might have
[23:38] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: and I think you have an ownership issue on your home folder
[23:38] <[thor]> dacaro: what brand of video card do you have?
[23:38] <dacaro> see my doubt
[23:38] <dacaro> nvidia
[23:39] <rafal_> R@fal
[23:39] <[thor]> dacaro: go to System > Administrator > Additional Hardware
[23:39] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- should I do sudo su for this?
[23:39] <yng18> !son
[23:40] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: no what I gave you is fine
[23:40] <dacaro_> done
[23:40] <toosugar> ciau!
[23:40] <dacaro_> done
[23:40] <[thor]> dacaro_: did it have drivers listed for your hardware?
[23:41] <timmybobcat14> ohzie -   chown: cannot access `/home/mal/.gvfs': Permission denied
[23:41] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: you didn't sudo
[23:41] <[thor]> dacaro_: please use this channel, i do not accept /msg
[23:41] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: one second
[23:42] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: go into /home/mal
[23:42] <ohzie> and do
[23:42] <ohzie> "ls -Ao | grep gvfs"
[23:42] <jesse__> hi
[23:42] <dacaro_> ok
[23:42] <dacaro_> i read now
[23:43] <dacaro_> _> wait
 is aditional hardware?
 im my ubuntu dont have aditional hardware
 only hava hardware drivers
[23:43] <FloodBot1> dacaro_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <[thor]> dacaro_: yes. hardware drivers is correct
[23:43] <rww> dacaro_: They're the same thing. The name of that program in the menu changes pretty much every release >.>
[23:43] <dacaro_> Nvidia version 173
[23:43] <[thor]> dacaro_: is it enabled? ( green light )
[23:44] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok in mal
[23:44] <dacaro_> yes
[23:44] <ohzie> timmybobcat14:
[23:44] <ohzie> "ls -Ao | grep gvfs"
[23:44] <[thor]> dacaro_: that should be enough to enable the "Extra" visual effects
[23:44] <dacaro_> when i active extra visual efects
[23:45] <dacaro_> appear a msg error
[23:45] <sexysara> are you using Compiz?
[23:45] <dacaro_> visual effects cant enabled
[23:45] <timmybobcat14> ohzie - ok what do you need?
[23:45] <sexysara> you can use Compiz and Emerald
[23:45] <dacaro_> compiz i dont know
[23:45] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: it printed one single line, I'd like that line please.
[23:45] <rww> !emerald
[23:46] <[thor]> dacaro_: video card might not support 3D acceleration
[23:46] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- I seem to have 2 lines here ...
[23:46] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: AHH!
[23:46] <dacaro_> but when i log like root
[23:46] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: please provide them
[23:46] <dacaro_> i active normal
[23:46] <sexysara> hmmm, Ubottu, I been using Compiz and Emerald on Lucid just fine, nor bugs at all for me at least
[23:46] <timmybobcat14> ohzie- beg your pardon only one line...: b
[23:46] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: oh okay
[23:46] <ohzie> lol
[23:47] <dacaro_> emerald is it repository?
[23:47] <sexysara> yes its in Repo
[23:47] <timmybobcat14> ohzie-      dr-x------  2 mal     0 2011-03-15 21:59 .gvfs
[23:47] <sexysara> apt-cache search it or open the manger thingy
[23:47] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: kk cool beans
[23:47] <ohzie> timmybobcat14: do me a favor
[23:47] <dacaro_> ok
[23:48] <dacaro_> but i want resolve my problem