[04:21] <jake1> can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find
[04:21] <jake1> them either."
[04:21] <abarbaccia> so that file in rc2.d is only a simlink to the actual script - you can delete the link
[04:21] <bob2> rene: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:21] <frank> rene: you need gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:21] <nJess> i have a problem
[04:21] <bob2> jake1: do not paste things in here
[04:21] <rene> Thank you!
[04:21] <abarbaccia> sudo rm rc2.d
[04:21] <bob2> jake1: also, sudo aptitude install build-essential xlibs-dev
[04:21] <bob2> jake1: then go to #kubuntu
[04:21] <jake1> bob2 yea kubuntu is not very helpful
[04:21] <nJess> i finally got my laptop working on ubuntu, but the processor won't clock down, so i have poor battery life, how do i make my processor clock down?
[04:21] <bob2> shock!
[04:21] <arbir> abarbaccia: i dont want to delet that link.. at a later stage i might want to enable that service again
[04:22] <Jet2k5> jake1: lol I just got back from there it's dead silence for like 3 hours
[04:22] <arbir> abarbaccia: just disable it in rc2.d
[04:22] <bob2> nJess: you're using the default kernel?
[04:22] <DAC1138> nJess, rebuild the kernel, but you cant in ubuntu
[04:22] <bob2> nJess: and it was a default install?
[04:22] <frank> arbir: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/scriptname
[04:22] <DAC1138> nJess, ive tried so many times, it just wont work
[04:22] <nJess> bob2, yup, default install
[04:22] <frank> arbir: to disable the script from being executable
[04:22] <arbir> frank... is there not chkconfig style doing it ?
[04:22] <abarbaccia> arbir, if you delete the link, it wont start at runlevel 2, to enable it again just run the rcupdate command again or recreate the link
[04:23] <bob2> nJess: and a default kernel?
[04:23] <nJess> im using the newest hoary kernel
[04:23] <DAC1138> bob2, obviously, iv he just did an install
[04:23] <DAC1138> if*
[04:23] <ToRTuReD_X> man
[04:23] <arbir> cani do ... chkconfig 2 ppp off
[04:23] <abarbaccia> arbir, at boot it simply goes through the directory and exectues every link thats sitting in that folder - update-rc.d is a tool made for your convenience so you dont have to make them all yourself
[04:23] <frank> arbir: there is ubuntu boot manager (ubm) that might do it. I don't know chkconfig
[04:23] <jake1> yea Jet2k5 i noticed that
[04:23] <ToRTuReD_X> i'd hate to format and set this up like i do windows
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> formatting linux would be a pain in the ass to get it back to the way you had it
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[04:24] <arbir> right
[04:24] <DAC1138> nJess, mine has the same problem, and my fan wont turn off
[04:24] <nJess> bob2, im using the newest hoary kernel
[04:24] <jake1> i agree ToRTuReD_X
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> :p
[04:24] <DAC1138> nJess, even when i set my laptop over the air vent on the floor where the cold cold air shoots up into the cpu fan, it wont shut off
[04:24] <jake1> i should get breezy
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> now smoke time wille i wait for xine-ui to install
[04:24] <rob^> jake1, no
[04:24] <ToRTuReD_X> bom bom bommmmm
[04:24] <frank> ToRTuReD_X: its not that big a deal if you have a separate /home partition
[04:25] <DAC1138> jake1, you should, and b0rk your system
[04:25] <bob2> DAC1138: no, not obviously
[04:25] <hondje> where does gnome store screen resolution in the conf editor?
[04:25] <frank> jake1: no
[04:25] <jake1> ok then
[04:25] <jake1> i won't
[04:25] <ToRTuReD_X> i need wine or vmware so i can run photoshop
[04:25] <bob2> nJess: what does linuxlaptops.net say about support for your laptop?
[04:25] <rob_p> arbir:  The Ubuntu equivalent to chkconfig is update-rc.d.  Read up on it.  It's not too difficult.
[04:25] <jake1> i wish ./configure would just pick up right before the previous error message instead of waiting all over again
[04:25] <nJess> bob2, i have no clue, what is that site?
[04:25] <ToRTuReD_X> my life depends on photoshp and gimp is a cheap replacement with none of the features
[04:25] <arbir> rob_p: i have been working on that... i keep getting an error
[04:26] <rob_p> arbir:  what sort of error?
[04:26] <bob2> nJess: go look?
[04:26] <hondje> Then use photoshop
[04:26] <arbir> rob_p:  update-rc.d ppp start 14 2 .
[04:26] <arbir>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/ppp already exist.
[04:26] <linuxnewbie> could someone help me? I am new to Linux and for some reason, I cannot see my other hard drive
[04:26] <hondje> Or end your life, I suppose that's a viable option
[04:26] <vader1102> try inkscape dude
[04:26] <abarbaccia> ToRTuReD_X, i've heard gimp is very  close (different names and locations of tools) but the only thing its lacking is the color palets linked to specific printers - like the color matching which makes PS so expensive
[04:26] <bob2> linuxnewbie: "see"?  you'll have to mount it before you can do anything with it.
[04:26] <nJess> bob2, that is not a real website
[04:26] <linuxnewbie> ok, how would I do that?
[04:27] <DAC1138> bob2, linuxlaptops.net isnt up anymore
[04:27] <rob_p> arbir:  so if it already exists, why are you trying to add it?
[04:27] <bob2> nJess: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[04:27] <Madpilot> ToRTuReD_X: i've also heard that PS is one of the things that runs badly - if at all - in wine - but haven't confirmed it...
[04:27] <bob2> ubotu: laptop is http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[04:27] <ubotu> bob2: okay
[04:27] <arbir> rob_p: i want to disbaled that service
[04:27] <oni_> can anyone help me with firestarter internet sharing?
[04:27] <arbir> rob_p: *disbale
[04:28] <rob_p> arbir:  then do a, "update-rc.d -f ppp remove"
[04:28] <hondje> does anyone know where the screen resolution is kept in gnome? I'm trying to write a script using gconftool-2, but can't find it
[04:28] <oni_> mmm=
[04:28] <oni_> mm?
[04:28] <arbir> rob_p what does remove do ? will it delete the script from that directory?
[04:28] <nJess> bob2, it says nothing at all
[04:28] <linuxnewbie> how do you mount a slave hard drive?
[04:28] <Randall64> hondje: Are you sure it is kept in gnome?
[04:29] <hondje> Randall64: The screen resolution capplet can set it, so I'd assume so
[04:29] <rob_p> arbir:  the same thing that "chkconfig --del ppp" would do on a Red Hat/Mandrake system... it removes it from the run levels...
[04:29] <oni_> anyone knows how to share internet with Firestarter?
[04:29] <Randall64> hondje: Maybe it doesn't exist until you have changd it from the normal resolution (guess)
[04:29] <bob2> nJess: that's not very encouraging
[04:29] <bob2> oni_: er, there's a wizard for that
[04:29] <nJess> well
[04:29] <rob_p> arbir:  the script itself stays intact within the /etc/init.d/ directory but the symlinks are removed.  Understand?
[04:29] <nJess> it has similar laptops
[04:30] <bob2> linuxnewbie: www.,ubuntuguide.org
[04:30] <oni_> but its not working with me
[04:30] <rene> Thank you for the HELP!!!!
[04:30] <hondje> it allows one to set the default resolution, so I was thinking that it querys that value somewhere and sets it since the 'default' can be independant of xorg provided xorg allows it to exist
[04:30] <nJess> my laptop is not a real single model number you see, bob2, it is a combination of parts of an acer aspire 1360 and an acer aspire 1520
[04:30] <arbir> rob_p: i dont wan tto --del ppp
[04:30] <arbir> i want to do this
[04:30] <jake1> come on so damn close
[04:30] <arbir> chkconfig 2 ppp off
[04:30] <bob2> oni_: so, instead of asking how o do it, explain in what way it isn't working
[04:30] <arbir> do you see what i am aiming at ?
[04:30] <rob_p> arbir:  What do you want to do?
[04:30] <bob2> arbir: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*ppp
[04:31] <bob2> nJess: er, ok then
[04:31] <hondje> ah HAH, found it
[04:31] <thespiritoftal> is Breezy Badger better than Hoary Hedgehog?
[04:31] <nJess> bob2, the most important informational bit i got is this, and it was for slackware
[04:31] <bob2> thespiritoftal: no
[04:31] <nJess> bob2, to use cpufreq you have to enable the ACPI interface (all the modules processor, fan, battery, ac etc. are needed) and the powernow-k8 module for 64 bit Athlon processor and choose the cpufreq policy (I use userspace).
[04:31] <arbir> bob2: why do we want to remove it ? why cant we just call it K14ppp ?
[04:31] <frank> thespiritoftal: no, not yet
[04:31] <jedix> can someone help me with an nvidia problem with doom3?
[04:31] <bob2> arbir: ? removing a symlink is how yo udisable services from starting
[04:32] <arbir> cant we make update-rc.d just disable a script and not delete it from that directory
[04:32] <bob2> nJess: and is the powernow-k8 module loaded?
[04:32] <frank> jedix: what is the problem?
[04:32] <nJess> bob2, i don't know how
[04:32] <bob2> arbir: it's not a script, it's a symlink
[04:32] <bob2> nJess: lsmod
[04:32] <bob2> nJess: look at the output
[04:32] <jake1> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:32] <jake1> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:32] <jake1> wtf?
[04:32] <jedix> I get the errr "api mismatch the kernel modules is version 1.0.7667, but this library is 1.0.7174"..
[04:32] <arbir> bob2: what at a later date, i want to enable my service at that run level, and i wont even know that this service would go at that run level
[04:32] <oni_> well I have just one ethernet card, eth0, whose is connected to a hub, where the internet its uplink, and in the hub I have an iMac connected too, how do I share just like OS X?
[04:32] <frank> arbir: deleting the symlink is disabling it
[04:32] <jedix> frank: see above
[04:32] <bob2> jake1: ? that's obviously correct, you didn't install them
[04:32] <bob2> jake1: kde-devel
[04:33] <Randall64> jedix: Make all your packages match ...
[04:33] <bob2> arbir: then use update-rc.d
[04:33] <nJess> bob2, no it is not
[04:33] <thespiritoftal> I have just installed ubuntu.. what do you think about its security? is a firewall needed? or a vulnerability scanner? and should i install an antivirus software?
[04:33] <bob2> arbir: you're obsessing over something utterly unimportant
[04:33] <frank> jedix: this is for the drivers from nvdia?
[04:33] <bob2> nJess: sudo modpeobre powernow-k8
[04:33] <hondje> if it helps anyone in the future, you can change default resolution with 'gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution <values>'
[04:33] <jedix> frank: yes
[04:33] <arbir> i know deleting is disbaling.. or even renaming it to anything else but S* is disabling it
[04:33] <arbir> bob2 i am getting errors update-rc.d
[04:33] <arbir> agrees with bob2
[04:33] <jedix> Randall64: which packages exactly? I installed the drivers from the nvidia website
[04:34] <Randall64> jedix: nvidia*
[04:34] <nJess> bob2, it is done
[04:34] <frank> jedix: did the nvidia installation script work well?
[04:34] <arbir> i am obsessed......but this is how i learn.. unless i am obsesses i dont ever learn :-) sorry bob2
[04:34] <jedix> frank: yes
[04:34] <jedix> I can run it again..
[04:34] <hondje> thespiritoftal: You don't really need much unless you decide to run a webserver or something
[04:34] <Randall64> jedix: I'd use the debs myself (and do)
[04:34] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: I just realised, is there a way to turn that off
[04:34] <jedix> but there are packages installed from apt that are nvidia.. maybe remove them?
[04:34] <hondje> just don't run scripts from sources you don't trust
[04:34] <dooonz> if i have an old computer with only a serial mouse port can i install a usb card and hook up a usb mouse to it
[04:34] <thespiritoftal> thanks hondje
[04:34] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: because I'll be running an NFS /home on multiple PCs with different resolution
[04:34] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: Sorry, turn what off?
[04:35] <nJess> bob2, what shall i do now?
[04:35] <Randall64> doonz: It probably doesn't even have pci (so no)
[04:35] <dcgarri> alright... i need basic info if anyone has the patience
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> the gnome resolution setter
[04:35] <frank> jedix: thats right did you remove the ubuntu nvidia driver package?
[04:35] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: oh, interesting
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> it automatically runs when you login
[04:35] <bob2> nJess: load the module...
[04:35] <dooonz> it does tho
[04:35] <jedix> frank: I'll try that.
[04:35] <thespiritoftal> when a new version is released will we be able to upgrade it using synaptic?
[04:35] <nJess> how?
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> I imagine you can stop it loading, but I think there should be a gconf option
[04:35] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: so /home is exported, but xorg.conf is local to each client?
[04:35] <bob2> nJess: with the command I gave you already...
[04:35] <Randall64> dooonz: crazy, but yes then
[04:35] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: yeah
[04:35] <dooonz> ok
[04:35] <dooonz> thanx
[04:35] <nJess> modprobe? i did that
[04:36] <dcgarri> I don't even know how to execute an rpm file
[04:36] <vader1102> |wow| I forgot how it feels to be kidless, I have gotten more done tonight than I have in the past week lol(bed early tonight)
[04:36] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: nice question .... hmm
[04:36] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: one ws will be 2560x1024 and others will be 1024x768, others again different
[04:36] <bob2> nJess: and restart cpufreqd
[04:36] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: I guess you could set a start/stop script in gnome to blank that string, forcing it to get it from xorg
[04:36] <nJess> bob2, now?
[04:37] <nJess> how*
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: yeah there's a few ways to work around it
[04:37] <boo_boo> hi
[04:37] <hondje> something like 'gconftool-2 --type string --unset /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/resolution'
[04:37] <bob2> nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d cpufreqd restart
[04:37] <black13> what would cause "xinit: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory " the file is present in the directory /usr/X11R6/lib/
[04:37] <HrdwrBoB> I just realised it when I was envisioning my master plan for a ridiculously overspecced home network
[04:38] <bob2> black13: you're using breezy, right?
[04:38] <jedix> thanks guys, now it faults on trying to use OSS
[04:38] <Amaranth> oops
[04:38] <hondje> or --recursive-unset, blank out the refresh rate value
[04:38] <hondje> but that's all I can think of offhand, HrdwrBoB
[04:38] <nJess> bob2, /etc/init.d/cpufeqd not found
[04:39] <bob2> nJess: that's not what I said
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> cheers anyway
[04:39] <black13> bob2 hoary
[04:39] <nJess> bob2, i typed what you said, it gave me that output
[04:39] <bob2> black13: and how have you changed it from the default install?
[04:39] <jake1> i like pizza
[04:39] <ToRTuReD_X> grr
[04:39] <bob2> 12:37:30 @         bob2 | nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d cpufreqd restart
[04:39] <bob2> 12:38:47          nJess |  bob2, /etc/init.d/cpufeqd not found
[04:39] <jedix> actually it is seg faulting :(
[04:39] <ToRTuReD_X> ubuntu hates me
[04:39] <black13> bob2 massively
[04:40] <nJess> oh
[04:40] <bob2> black13: awesome
[04:40] <nJess> i typoed the replu
[04:40] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: since your startup stuff is in /home anyway, it might just work by giving it first priority...be interesting to find out if gnome can switch resolution at that point
[04:40] <arbir> what is vbestate
[04:40] <ToRTuReD_X> xmms and beep media player both freeze when i try to play music
[04:40] <nJess> reply
[04:40] <nJess> it is still not found
[04:40] <arbir> bob2: what is this service vbesave
[04:40] <nJess> bob2, /etc/init.d/cpufreqd not found
[04:40] <bob2> arbir: don't touch things you don't understand
[04:40] <nevin> ToRTuReD_X: what audio plugin are you using?
[04:40] <lcharly_TheOne> i have problems with my sound card when i put a cd i can hear it but i can play mp3
[04:40] <bob2> arbir: just leave it there, it's for helping suspend and resume work
[04:40] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: that's the software you're using, not the card
[04:40] <arbir> ok bob2.. i get it
[04:41] <black13> man i love bruce cambpel
[04:41] <bob2> nJess: sudo invoke-rc.d powernowd restart
[04:41] <arbir> bob2 where can i find more info on vbesave?
[04:41] <boo_boo> need some help, app installer will not open used apt-get to install. remove and re-install.  any thoughts?
[04:41] <nJess> ok bob2, that worked
[04:41] <hybrid_goth> is there a gopher program for ubuntu?
[04:41] <nJess> what now?
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> nevin
[04:41] <ToRTuReD_X> audio plugin?
[04:41] <lcharly_TheOne> i'm using xmms and beep media player
[04:41] <Randall64> gopher?  come on now
[04:41] <frank> hybrid_goth: hehe
[04:41] <bob2> hybrid_goth: apt-cache search gopher
[04:42] <nevin> ToRTuReD_X: press ctrl+p when you have xmms focussed
[04:42] <black13> bob2 any ideas
[04:42] <Randall64> Even universities can't be using gopher anymore.
[04:42] <nevin> ToRTuReD_X: the output plguin should be in the lower half of the popup
[04:42] <CMTheory> how do i set up sound in cedega? (in on hoary with a working built in "sound card")
[04:42] <nJess> hey bob2, my fan just slowed down, does that mean it worked?
[04:42] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: what symptoms do you have?
[04:42] <arbir> i see sysklogd and klogd both running.. are both required ?
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[04:42] <ToRTuReD_X> dammit
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> it's not closing
[04:43] <ToRTuReD_X> :/
[04:43] <frank> CMTheory: there is a config file somewhere where you can choose oss or alsa. look at the transgaming forums maybe
[04:43] <nevin> in a shell, type: killall xmms
[04:43] <CMTheory> tnx
[04:43] <CMTheory> -looking-
[04:43] <lcharly_TheOne> when i play mp3 its saids
[04:43] <bob2> black13: not unless you explain what you did to it
[04:44] <bob2> nJess: could be
[04:44] <bob2> nJess: add powernow-k8 or whatever it was, on it's own line, to /etc/modules
[04:44] <ray_> hello
[04:44] <bob2> arbir: yes
[04:44] <nothingssomethin> hello bob2
[04:44] <lcharly_TheOne> your sound card isn't configured propetly
[04:44] <lcharly_TheOne> do you have selectes the output plugin correctly
[04:44] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: open the preferences dialog (ctrl+p) and tell me which output plugin you're using
[04:44] <arbir> bob2 i am in the process of stopping unwanted services....
[04:45] <arbir> bob2 i dont have a printer so i want to stop cups
[04:45] <bob2> arbir: er, ok
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libtonege.so
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libcduadio.so
[04:45] <nJess> bob2, thanks
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libmpg123.so
[04:45] <Kovecses> anybody know how to start a process in gnome as root when you start up?
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libvorbis.so
[04:45] <nothingssomethin> how can i use synaptic to get samba with swat included ???
[04:45] <black13> bob2 basicall i made hoary chroot using debootstap ...
[04:45] <arbir> bob2 what is acpi for ? does it affect system performance ?
[04:45] <lcharly_TheOne> libwav.so
[04:45] <nothingssomethin> how can i use synaptic to get samba 3 with swat included ???
[04:45] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: those are input plugins
[04:45] <oni_> there's any way to share internet connection just as Mac OS X do?
[04:45] <nothingssomethin> ver 3 the new one
[04:46] <bob2> arbir: leave it
[04:46] <black13> bob2 then made the chroot bootable ...
[04:46] <lcharly_TheOne> sorry
[04:46] <bob2> Kovecses: what ae you trying to do?
[04:46] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: there's a pull-down box labelled "Output Plugin"
[04:46] <bob2> oni_: install firestarter
[04:46] <lcharly_TheOne> im using lib oss.so
[04:46] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: choose "eSound Output Plugin [...] "
[04:46] <Kovecses> bob2, to run enemy-territory you must do echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss as root
[04:47] <hybrid_goth> heh firefox can do gopher://
[04:47] <oni_> bob2: firestarter needs two Ethernet cards, and OS X can just share with one...
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> thaks
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> nevin,
[04:47] <bob2> oni_: that's nasty
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> its works
[04:47] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: anytime
[04:47] <Kovecses> bob2, i tried changing the permissions but it somehow changes them back?
[04:47] <nothingssomethin> maybe someone can help me
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> i have another problem
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> with my video card
[04:47] <bob2> Kovecses: just run it from the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:47] <frank> bob2: it is the solution that I found to
[04:47] <lcharly_TheOne> is an ATI radeon xpress 200m
[04:47] <arbir> bob2:  which services do you think i can safely remove... i see so many services most of which i dont understand
[04:47] <oni_> bob2: any other option?
[04:48] <Kovecses> bob2, ok so just plug it at the end?
[04:48] <bob2> arbir: I'd just leave them, since they don't use any ram anyway
[04:48] <arbir> bob2 if that is th case.. i would leave it .. i was only scared about the ram that each service was occupying
[04:48] <black13> bob2 like i said it boots boots great but no xorg .. yet
[04:49] <bob2> arbir: no, if they're unusued they will go into swap
[04:49] <arbir> bob2 sat for example. fetchmail....i dont use fetchmail
[04:49] <bob2> arbir: and it won't run unless you do
[04:49] <lcharly_TheOne> and the video is too slow
[04:49] <arbir> bob2 insttead of troubling you.. is there any link which you can provice me where i can read up about these services ?
[04:50] <bob2> "too slow"?
[04:50] <bob2> arbir: no
[04:50] <arbir> *provide*
[04:50] <gpd> arbir: I removed a bunch of stuff I thought I didn't need... dbus-1 was one of them... after hours of HAL errors I realized dbus-1 was HAL!!!
[04:50] <arbir> hmmm
[04:50] <lcharly_TheOne> i edit the xorg.conf and put the option  "noaccel"      "true"
[04:50] <arbir> gpd: hmmmm
[04:50] <hondje> gpd: hehehe, nice
[04:50] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: slow?  too few frames per scond?  what exactly do you mean?
[04:50] <arbir> what does dbus do ?
[04:50] <arbir> its got to do something with databus ?
[04:50] <bob2> no
[04:51] <bob2> just leave dbus, it\s essential these days
[04:51] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: did it work with acceleration?
[04:51] <lcharly_TheOne> ehen i open for exemple and internte browser
[04:51] <sandis> does anybody know what is segmentation fault (11) ???
[04:51] <lcharly_TheOne> didn't
[04:51] <hondje> sandis: yes
[04:51] <arbir> bob2:  i may not be a super geek... but i would like to know about my system...
[04:51] <bob2> sandis: it means the program is buggy and got killed
[04:51] <bob2> sandis: or you have bad ram
[04:51] <arbir> bob2: is that wrong ?
[04:51] <bob2> arbir: no...
[04:51] <sandis> hmm if its ram, how do i know?
[04:51] <nothing> is it true that the new samba 3 soupport active directory ?
[04:52] <lcharly_TheOne> and i goind down in the page it's too slow
[04:52] <bob2> sandis: you can reboot and run memtest86
[04:52] <nevin> lcharly_TheOne: sorry, its bloody late here, I'm off to sleep
[04:52] <lcharly_TheOne> i have so much problems with my lap
[04:52] <bob2> that will take many hours, tho
[04:52] <bob2> nothing: it's not that new, but yes
[04:52] <lcharly_TheOne> specialy with the amd turion 64
[04:53] <lcharly_TheOne> there are no drivers for this proccessor
[04:53] <sandis> bob2: ok, ill try it
[04:53] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: your cpu needs drivers? why?
[04:53] <lcharly_TheOne> whel no drivers sorry kernel
[04:53] <nothing> does synaptic have it in it's reposotorys
[04:53] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: sure there is, the k8 ones run fine
[04:54] <ToRTuReD_X> k
[04:54] <lcharly_TheOne> yea thats wih im using
[04:54] <ToRTuReD_X> rebooting
[04:54] <vergeofimpetus> sorry for all the nick changes
[04:54] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: so in what sense does your cpu not have a driver?
[04:54] <lcharly_TheOne> but the proccessos its always working on 50%
[04:54] <bob2> so it's being scaled down
[04:54] <vergeofimpetus> someone had the nic that i wanted
[04:54] <bob2> feature, not a bug
[04:55] <lcharly_TheOne> but i see the process and there is not proccess using that
[04:55] <black13> i feel like getting tore up
[04:55] <lcharly_TheOne> right now im coping files from cd to my hd and the computes is too slow
[04:55] <arbir> bob2 can i download the source and compile and install ?
[04:55] <lcharly_TheOne> and the procesor is working 100%
[04:56] <bob2> arbir: of what?
[04:56] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: perhaps you don't have dma enabled
[04:56] <arbir> i need to compile apache for a very specific config
[04:56] <jeboespflug> quit
[04:56] <etzerd> hello room?
[04:56] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: it'd be a lot easier if you pointed at specific issues like that, instead of saying "my cpu doesn't have drivers"
[04:56] <bob2> arbir: no you don't
[04:56] <etzerd> can anyone tell me how to install KDE in Unbuntu?
[04:56] <bugz_> anybody here have windows xp professional that i can copy... pls
[04:56] <arbir> hello etzerd
[04:57] <bob2> etzerd: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:57] <arbir> bob2: then how can i customise certain modules in my apache ?
[04:57] <bob2> arbir: explain what you want to do
[04:57] <etzerd> hello arbir
[04:57] <etzerd> thanks bob2
[04:57] <vergeofimpetus> when i download samba in synaptic does it do any preconfigureing whatso ever? and will it have the SWAT
[04:57] <lcharly_TheOne> i don't understand you
[04:57] <etzerd> I uninstall Ubuntu for while now I forget the command
[04:57] <etzerd> thanks let me go back and install it
[04:57] <arbir> bob2 i need to enable digest , dso and other pluygins for my apache
[04:57] <bob2> lcharly_TheOne: maybe #ubuntu-es is a better place to ask
[04:58] <bob2> arbir: which ubuntu's apache already includes
[04:58] <lcharly_TheOne> i ask but nobody answer
[04:58] <thoreauputic> vergeofimpetus: swat - I think it doesn't
[04:58] <bob2> vergeofimpetus: it will run on a specific work group, yes
[04:58] <Randall64> awesome, hoary kernel deb corrupted
[04:58] <arbir> ok ..and what if i dont want a certain module in my compilation which ubuntu includes ?
[04:58] <Randall64> This gets better and better.
[04:58] <bob2> arbir: then don't load it
[04:59] <Viorus|busy> what's the commando to show ip (sleepy)
[04:59] <thoreauputic> vergeofimpetus: you can install swat from the universe repo
[04:59] <arbir> i need apache to be configured for PHP with mysql and pgsql both
[04:59] <Randall64> ifconfigo
[04:59] <bimberi> Viorus|busy: ifconfig
[04:59] <bob2> arbir: again, no need to compile anything
[04:59] <bob2> Viorus|busy: or "ip a"
[05:00] <Viorus|busy> bob2 ifconfig was what I had on mind, thx=)
[05:00] <arbir> ok bob2.... i want mysql 5.0 beta..... i really need to test it for our stuff here
[05:00] <arbir> and it has to work with php
[05:00] <bob2> arbir: then go install that yourself
[05:00] <Randall64> Someone stop me from just beating the shit out of this peecee.
[05:00] <Randall64> It's just not worth this.
[05:00] <bob2> and any plan depending on a beta version of mysql seems doomed
[05:01] <arbir> bob2 its not for production
[05:01] <efigyidol> arbir: try #apache
[05:01] <bob2> still
[05:02] <arbir> i need to eval it and write a software for mysql 5
[05:02] <cddesjar> what is the default bittorrent client include with ubuntu?  is it gnome torrent or gtorrent or something like that?
[05:03] <Madpilot> is it possible to script a Gnome Launcher to run a java .jar file?
[05:03] <jake1> ok what does one usually do after "make install"
[05:03] <jake1> the readme file is blank
[05:04] <black13> bob2 are you there?
[05:04] <bob2> Madpilot: of course, they can run whatever you want
[05:04] <cddesjar> what is the default bittorrent client include with ubuntu?  is it gnome torrent or gtorrent or something like that?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> jake1: make install is the final step - you can run the program after that
[05:04] <bob2> cddesjar: no need to repeat
[05:04] <arbir> bob2:  also does the default install of apache support asp.net with mono ?
[05:04] <bob2> apt-cache search gnome torrent
[05:04] <bob2> arbir: nope
[05:04] <bob2> arbir: use xsp and mod_proxy
[05:05] <jake1> thoreauputic: do i have to be in a specific directory to run the program?
[05:05] <arbir> hmm.... bob2 are they all DDO modules ?
[05:05] <bob2> DSO
[05:05] <bob2> and no, xsp is not
[05:05] <arbir> bob2:  i mean, after i install apache, can i just plug int the mono-module and start wowrking with asp.net
[05:05] <thoreauputic> jake1: no, - provided it is in your $PATH ( echo $PATH to see)
[05:05] <bob2> afaik there is no asp.net module for apache2
[05:05] <vinux> woot! I've got some ubuntu cds in the mail and i've been handing them out. Soon we will rule the world! muhahha well no not really :)
[05:05] <black13> its xauth that fails
[05:06] <arbir> well than i can use the apache1.x version as long as it works for me
[05:06] <Madpilot> bob2: how complete does the path have to be? "java -jar home/brian/Arachnophilia/Arachnophilia.jar" doesn't seem to be launching it...
[05:06] <arbir> I need to do a lot of testing before i host my stuff at a data center
[05:06] <bob2> arbir: then you'll need to use apache1
[05:06] <thoreauputic> jake1: most compiled progs put the executable in /usr/local/bin , which is in the default path
[05:06] <bob2> black13: are you really using hoary?
[05:06] <QMario> Is there a way I can speed up the time Mozilla Firefox takes to load a web page?
[05:06] <bob2> Madpilot: that path is never going to be valid
[05:07] <bob2> Madpilot: /home/biran/ ...
[05:07] <black13> bob2 yes is it bad
[05:07] <Madpilot> bob2: what's wrong with it? it's what Nautilus is displaying... ?
[05:07] <bimberi> Madpilot: leading /
[05:07] <arbir> is gone for dinner
[05:08] <jasoncohen> QMario, yes, there is
[05:08] <Madpilot> ah, thnx. it works now!
[05:08] <Andares> Hmm...
[05:08] <QMario> Jasoncohen, how?
[05:08] <jasoncohen> QMario, follow these instructions - http://www.techsupportforum.com/computer/topic/48821-1.html
[05:08] <Andares> What package name would "libmp.so" be distributed under?
[05:08] <jasoncohen> QMario, it can signifigantly reduce page loading time
[05:08] <bob2> !+find libmp.so
[05:08] <Andares> !find libmp.so
[05:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libmp.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libmp.so) in libdevel/libgmp3-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp.so.3|libmp.so.3.1.7}) in libs/libgmp3.
[05:09] <Andares> coolies!
[05:09] <bob2> there you go
[05:09] <jasoncohen> QMario, also, i find the performance of the official firefox build to be faster. It has less dependencies and is a lighter build
[05:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libmp.so' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/libmp.so) in libdevel/libgmp3-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libmp.so.3|libmp.so.3.1.7}) in libs/libgmp3.
[05:09] <bob2> note the .so itself is only useful for compiling things
[05:09] <jedix> hrm
[05:10] <jasoncohen> anyone else notice that the official firefox builds are faster than the ubuntu builds? i only notice this with ubuntu & backport firefox packages- not with debian builds
[05:10] <jasoncohen> could be some of the extra features compiled in
[05:10] <ray_> can anybody recomend a good cd burning app for gnome that burns iso's and vcd's?
[05:10] <Madpilot> ray_: Gnomebaker
[05:10] <bob2> ray_: nautilus burns iso images just fine
[05:11] <ray_> Maddy, doesnt burn vcd's
[05:11] <ray_> Maddy, like k3b
[05:11] <AMCDeathKnight> Howw can I get my computer to email me its ip address whenver it changes?
[05:11] <jasoncohen> if you need to burn video DVDs or VCDs you're better off with k3b
[05:11] <Madpilot> ray_: video CD? never tried, actually...
[05:11] <ray_> yeah i will prob end up using k3b
[05:11] <jake1> :-\
[05:12] <black13> bob2 crap i have forgoten what is the config that shows the library dependecies
[05:12] <bob2> AMCDeathKnight: it'd be easier to install ddclient
[05:12] <bob2> black13: ldd
[05:12] <black13> yep
[05:12] <bob2> tho I think that's not always accurate
[05:12] <AMCDeathKnight> whats ddclient?
[05:12] <bob2> but I forget how to use objdump
[05:12] <bob2> AMCDeathKnight: look at it in synaptic or aptitude
[05:12] <QMario> Thank you,  jasoncohen! :)
[05:13] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[05:13] <zerboxx> what is the command to see keycodes as they're being pressed?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> AMCDeathKnight: or do " apt-cache show ddclient
[05:13] <jasoncohen> QMario, np, do you notice an improvement?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: xev
[05:13] <jasoncohen> QMario, try downloading the official firefox build. i bet you'll see an improvement between pages. the ubuntu build seems to "freeze" for a second before switching pages
[05:14] <jasoncohen> you'll probably also see an even greater improvement with deerpark alpha 2
[05:14] <AMCDeathKnight> is that like no-ip service?
[05:14] <bob2> AMCDeathKnight: sort of
[05:15] <Jet2k5> Who in here is using Kubuntu?
[05:15] <jake1> ok... how do i launch a program using sudo
[05:15] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: Thanks :)
[05:15] <pax> Jet2k5: #kubuntu to find out
[05:16] <thoreauputic> Jet2k5: probably a few - you might find more in #kubuntu
[05:16] <drew> is there anyway to make the videos played in MPlayer bigger?  I know that windows media player blows them up to 8 times their size, but mplayer just leaves them the way they originally are, is there any way I can make the video bigger?
[05:16] <jake1> i am in the right directory
[05:16] <jake1> and i cnt figure out how to launch the executable
[05:16] <Jet2k5> pax: no they are dead in there
[05:16] <Jet2k5> thoreauputic: they are dead in there
[05:16] <pax> I'm not dead
[05:17] <drew3> Hi All,  I am interested in xinerama support (2+ monitors) in Kububtu. Is it well suported?  I see drew beat me here with "my" name!! (-:
[05:17] <thoreauputic> jake1: youdon't launch from the directory - just type 'sudo <command>' from anywhere normally
[05:17] <frank> drew change the video output setting
[05:17] <thoreauputic> jake1: what are you trying to execute?
[05:17] <drew> frank, how do I do this?
[05:17] <jake1> thoreauputic it installed to /usr/local/kde/bin
[05:18] <jake1> and it is the only file in there
[05:18] <frank> drew go in preferences0> video and choose xv
[05:18] <jake1> i cded to that directory and typed in
[05:18] <thoreauputic> jake1: ah, well type the full path
[05:18] <jake1> sudo sh wlassistant
[05:18] <jake1> well i am in the directory
[05:18] <thoreauputic> you don't need to cd to the dir - just use tab complete to type the path
[05:19] <auk> !mountntfs
[05:19] <ubotu> auk: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:19] <auk> !mountwindows
[05:19] <ubotu> somebody said mountwindows was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:19] <QMario> Jasoncohen, where should I install Mozilla Firefox into?
[05:19] <nickrud> drew, you probably want to change /etc/mplayer.conf; change the vo=x11 to vo=xv
[05:19] <IIIEars> bob2 - Hi - Had a problem yesterday. Xchat was logged in as root and only appearing intermittantly. each time with a different PID# (41,400 - 41,800)  Can only guess it was uber-newber he asked for info on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and displayed his screen output on my screen.  -  How do you prepare for something like that? Track a periodic connection?
[05:19] <jedix> alright this doom3 problem is really pissing me off.
[05:19] <frank> jake1: did you get your thing to compile?
[05:19] <|QuaD-> my xlibs in breezy is still broken... good thing i have a laptop!
[05:19] <thoreauputic> jake1: then do  sudo ./<command> (note the dot slash)
[05:19] <|QuaD-> and can use that insteadof this
[05:19] <jake1> it says cannot execute binary file... however when i go to that file in KDE i see the app and i click on it
[05:19] <nickrud> drew, sorry, it's /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[05:19] <jake1> it launches
[05:19] <jake1> but it says i did not run it as sudo
[05:19] <jedix> can someone help me with a segfault of doom3? http://jebus.ca/Linux/doom3.txt
[05:19] <jake1> so it will not function properly
[05:20] <bimberi> jake1: try leaving out the "sh"
[05:20] <jake1> interesting
[05:20] <jake1> that working
[05:20] <jake1> that worked*
[05:20] <jake1> :-\
[05:20] <jake1> no wireless networks found
[05:20] <jake1> except that i am on one now
[05:20] <jake1> so it should find something
[05:20] <thoreauputic> jake1: you'll save a lot of bother if you symlink it into your path
[05:21] <bob2> IIIEars: xchat on your machine was running as root?
[05:21] <jake1> i hope it supports my airport card
[05:21] <bob2> is it airport extreme?
[05:21] <jake1> bob2 nope
[05:21] <drew> okay thanks, it worked
[05:21] <jake1> it's the original
[05:21] <frank> jedix: I think graphics is your problem. you will also have to change sound to oss because alsa is not working
[05:22] <synd> nalioth: you alive?
[05:22] <jedix> frank: alsa works in mplayer, and I've tried removing all drivers and reinstalling them in combinations with no success
[05:23] <jasoncohen> QMario, you can install it in /home/firefox-installer
[05:23] <jake1> first i need this damn program to pick up networks
[05:23] <frank> jedix: what does glxinfo | grep direct give you?   I had to use oss for doom3 too even though most things do work with alsa
[05:23] <jake1> that would be nice
[05:24] <jasoncohen> QMario, it doesn't really matter where you install it- but if it's in /home, only your user can use it which may or may not be a problem
[05:24] <jake1> they left me a fucking blank readme file
[05:24] <jedix> frank: says "no"
[05:24] <jasoncohen> QMario, otherwise you can install it in /opt
[05:24] <frank> jedix: then you don't have 3d acceleration
[05:24] <jedix> frank: actually
[05:25] <jedix> frank: sorry, I'm ssh'ed in and when I actually try it on the box, it says yes
[05:25] <frank> jedix: well are you trying to run doom3 ssh'd in????
[05:25] <jedix> but I guess glxinfo is being piped back here
[05:26] <jedix> frank: no, I just didn't want to leave my big screen sitting on the desktop
[05:26] <QMario> Jasoncohen, how do I uninstall the old firefox?
[05:26] <efigyidol> whats the default cron daemon for ubuntu?
[05:27] <frank> ok, I don't really know what the problem is though... what is your video card? and what drivers are you using?
[05:27] <jedix> I reverted back to the nvidia drivers off thier website
[05:27] <jasoncohen> QMario, you don't have to
[05:27] <jasoncohen> QMario, they're installed in completely different locations and can co-exist just fine
[05:28] <jasoncohen> if you don't see a performance improvement just go back to the ubuntu version. the upgrade process is easier
[05:28] <kristen_> i just installed ubuntu; how do you log into root?
[05:28] <jedix> it's an amd64 box, with an nvidia card
[05:28] <synd> kristen_: you dont need to
[05:28] <jedix> fx5700le I think
[05:28] <jasoncohen> kristen_, you don't. there is no root account. if you want administrative access use sudo
[05:28] <thoreauputic> !root
[05:28] <shuveb> kristen_, use sudo
[05:28] <ubotu> it has been said that root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:28] <synd> kristen_: sudo takes care of all your root needs
[05:28] <kristen_> k, thanks
[05:29] <frank> jedix:  you have the 32bit version of Ubuntu?
[05:29] <jedix> frank: no, 64
[05:29] <black13> xauth fails because its failing to load libXauth.so
[05:29] <frank> well you can't run doom3 directly like that
[05:29] <jedix> frank: why not?
[05:29] <frank> jedix: do you have a chroot?
[05:30] <frank> jedix: because doom3 is 32 bit
[05:30] <jedix> frank: not setup in any way
[05:30] <jedix> frank: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/#head-9436e887158eec0b0ce52087c9c953561748c5be
[05:30] <jedix> I thought that meant it would work
[05:30] <f4phantom2500> hi
[05:30] <sbatten2> Whats the best ftp server in ubuntu.
[05:30] <root__> help me i screwed up my x config im on terminal plz
[05:30] <f4phantom2500> i had a quick ?
[05:31] <sbatten2> something preferably easy and with a gtk GUI =)
[05:31] <benplaut> root__: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <benplaut> usually works :)
[05:31] <f4phantom2500> i need to move some codecs into a directory but i can only do it if im logged it says i dont have the right priveleges or something
[05:31] <fr500> wow, ubuntu has awesome bluetooth phone support
[05:31] <frank> jedix: either you switch to Ubuntu32 (easy solution) or you set up a 32chroot (a whole 32bit linux inside the 64bit one)
[05:31] <sbatten2> i'm looking in synaptic but there are sooo many choices, I've never set up a ftp server in linux, just windows
[05:31] <thoreauputic> root__: and don't IRC as root - it's a security risk
[05:32] <f4phantom2500> it says i dont have the right priveleges or something*
[05:32] <jedix> frank: that sucks :/
[05:32] <f4phantom2500> i think i have to log in as root and do it but idk how
[05:32] <frank> jedix: yeah 64bit linux can't run 32bit programs without alot of hand-holding
[05:33] <black13> hey guess what i need /sbin/ldconfig
[05:33] <jasoncohen> is webmin really considered that bad? i find the ssh & cron job tools pretty good
[05:33] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: changing your nick doesn't alter the fact that you are root ;)
[05:33] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - I need a pointer on tracking intermittant connections from a co-opted machine. - Can you help?
[05:34] <jasoncohen> why can't someone patch webmin in universe to work with sudo?
[05:34] <jedix> frank: what's the point of /lib32 then?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: I doubt it - I don't know much about that
[05:34] <bob2> f4phantom2500: no, you use sudo
[05:34] <bob2> f4phantom2500: sudo cp *.dll /usr/lib/win32/
[05:34] <ricosuave17> i know that
[05:34] <ricosuave17> but help me plz
[05:34] <auk> !rhythymbox mp3
[05:34] <ubotu> auk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:34] <ricosuave17> im deing
[05:35] <IIIEars> bob2 - Hi - Had a problem yesterday. Xchat was logged in as root and only appearing intermittantly. each time with a different PID# (41,400 - 41,800)  Can only guess it was uber-newber he asked for info on sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and displayed his screen output on my screen.  -  How do you prepare for something like that? Track a periodic connection?
[05:35] <auk> !rhythmbox mp3
[05:35] <ubotu> auk: I give up, what is it?
[05:35] <ddave> i
[05:35] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: you established that from yesterday? We were talking about it I recall ...
[05:35] <auk> !rhythmbox
[05:35] <ubotu> auk: I give up, what is it?
[05:35] <ricosuave17> i dont know what to do
[05:35] <ricosuave17> ito fix my x server
[05:35] <auk> !info rhythmbox  ?
[05:35] <ricosuave17> does someone use irssi in here
[05:35] <auk> !info rhythmbox
[05:35] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-7ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4268 kB
[05:35] <auk> ok...
[05:35] <frank> jedix: well some of the packages are the 32bit versions of the programs like openoffice. So technically, you might be able to force doom3 to use whats in lib32, but I have no idea how and I think its harder than setting up the chroot
[05:35] <IIIEars> bob2 - I need a pointer on tracking intermittant connections from a co-opted machine. - Can you help?
[05:35] <auk> !rhythmbox mp3
[05:35] <ubotu> auk: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:35] <auk> !rhythmboxmp3
[05:35] <ubotu> auk: I haven't a clue
[05:36] <auk> hmm, anyone else knwo what package you need for rhythmbox to play mp3s?
[05:36] <frank> jedix: I used to use Ubuntu64 but I changed to Ubuntu32 because its SO much easier to deal with this kind of thing
[05:36] <ricosuave17> will someone plz help me
[05:36] <thoreauputic> auk: gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:36] <sandis> auk - www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:37] <black13> bob2 ldconfig
[05:37] <jedix> frank: I don't want to reinstall, I've already finished this game.. just wanted to see how it plays on my 51" hdtv
[05:37] <jasoncohen> auk, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:37] <auk> sandis: ...
[05:37] <auk> !ubuntuguide
[05:37] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[05:37] <danielrr> hiall
[05:38] <auk> hi
[05:38] <danielrr> hi all
[05:38] <frank> jedix: Ubuntu64 is fine if you don't want to play games, flash animations or wmv videos and other w32 formats
[05:38] <IIIEars> ubotu tell auk about codecs
[05:38] <nickrud> auk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats is meant to be the guide to enabling extra codecs and formats
[05:38] <jedix> frank: so that's why wmv doesn't work
[05:38] <jedix> must be a fix for this stuff
[05:38] <frank> jedix: yeah you can't use w32codecs with 64bit media players
[05:39] <danielrr> anyone a expert with ubuntuinstalls
[05:39] <auk> thoreaputic, jasoncohen, thanks--it's not for me, i already installed it a while back, but it' sfor a friend, and i couldn't remember the package
[05:39] <IIIEars> frank - you can but it is not easy. - chroot etc
[05:39] <danielrr> anyone a expert with ubuntu installs
[05:39] <ricky_> help me plz
[05:39] <bur[n] er> just ask your question danielrr
[05:39] <jedix> IIIEars: yeah, read scroll up :)
[05:39] <bur[n] er> likewise ricky_
[05:40] <danielrr> well my install keeps halthing when it trys to  install gstreamer
[05:40] <ricky_> well i killed my xserver its completly dead i even used xfree and switched to xorg plz help me
[05:41] <AMCDeathKnight> Hey guys; can someone tell me how to get a gba emulator in ubuntu?
[05:42] <rob^> AMCDeathKnight, GNGB or Xmess-X
[05:42] <IIIEars> ricky - maybe someone would know if apt-get gnome-desktop or kubuntu-desktop would help. (100+mb d/l)
[05:42] <AMCDeathKnight> im in gnome
[05:43] <ricky_> yes all i did was try to change my x config everything else is in tact all the gnome and everything
[05:43] <rob^> AMCDeathKnight, they are both emulators you could use
[05:43] <Randall64> Has anyone actually installed Hoary on amd64?
[05:43] <AMCDeathKnight> game boy advance not game bot
[05:43] <AMCDeathKnight> *boy
[05:44] <Randall64> All it does for me is power the machine down right after booting (after screwing up grub during the install)
[05:44] <danielrr> Can anyone help me?
[05:44] <rob^> AMCDeathKnight, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20841.html
[05:45] <thoreauputic> danielrr: your question isn't very clear
[05:45] <fr500> hello
[05:45] <nickrud> danielrr, the only thing that comes to mind, is that your cd burn may be bad. have you checked the md5sum?
[05:45] <rob^> heh
[05:45] <fr500> can i add entries to the snedto menu?
[05:45] <fr500> sendto menu
[05:46] <AMCDeathKnight> gnome boy hmm
[05:46] <AMCDeathKnight> Can someone just tell me what i have to do
[05:46] <rob^> no
[05:46] <AMCDeathKnight> im new to linux and dont want to mess around
[05:46] <rob^> read that link
[05:46] <AMCDeathKnight> I have
[05:46] <IIIEars> Randall64 - It is a long shot but parts of #ubuntu are logged on a website. maybe-maybe there is a way to use them by googling the screen names used here.
[05:47] <danielrr> Well I got this same error from cd that I got directly from ubuntuas well as with burned copy
[05:47] <ricky_> anyone going to help me plz
[05:47] <vinux> what's an easy way to change the color in the title bar in gnome?
[05:47] <rob^> AMCDeathKnight, sudo apt-get install gnomeboyadvance
[05:47] <Styx> How do I get an input plugin so that xine can play DVDs?
[05:47] <rob^> easy :)
[05:47] <AMCDeathKnight> arh
[05:47] <AMCDeathKnight> lol
[05:47] <frank> Styx: you probably need libdvdcss2
[05:47] <thoreauputic> !multimedia
[05:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, multimedia is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[05:48] <IIIEars> xine-ui  ??
[05:48] <nickrud> danielrr, then, that is nicely strange, gstreamer is not exaclty an unknown quantity
[05:48] <IIIEars> vlc videolan is another very nice player for DVDs
[05:48] <AMCDeathKnight> vlc is neat
[05:49] <BitterGeek> It seems weird that both a pressed CD and an ISO image yields the same Sig11 with gstreamer.
[05:49] <rob^> thoreauputic, that page is such a duplication of effort..
[05:49] <robotgeek> vlc is very nice!
[05:49] <IIIEars> crossplatform also. = large developer communitty.
[05:49] <danielrr> nickrud any sujestions
[05:49] <BitterGeek> vlc needs more interface work. too hackish
[05:49] <nickrud> gstreamer hasn't been a problem here, so BitterGeek , danielrr I
[05:49] <nickrud> 'm not sure
[05:50] <linlin> Can someone please explain what this guy means? I dont fully understand the terminology: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=235185&postcount=13
[05:50] <bur[n] er>  totem is a great video player... now where's a good audio player :\
[05:50] <bur[n] er> bmp needs work
[05:50] <rob^> bur[n] er, bmp
[05:50] <bur[n] er> ;)
[05:50] <rob^> bur[n] er, bmp is fine, you just have to add plugins
[05:50] <sandis> so i wrote this small c++ program and successfully built it. when i run it console claims that there is segmentation fault 11. what a hack?
[05:50] <Styx> I have xine-ui and libdvdcss2
[05:50] <bob2> IIIEars: on irc? I don't understand your question
[05:50] <bur[n] er> rob^: plugins arent' in ubuntu :\
[05:50] <bob2> sandis: it means your program is buggy
[05:51] <rob^> bur[n] er, so?
[05:51] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: Muine, if you're playing albums
[05:51] <sandis> bob2: memory was ok
[05:51] <BitterGeek> linlin: sounds like the guy was trying to get mythtv working w/ ubuntu?
[05:51] <linlin> yes
[05:51] <danielrr> is there away that I could have gstreamernobeinstalled?
[05:51] <bob2> sandis: well, either it's buggy or you have bad ram
[05:51] <sandis> and what do you mean by buggy?
[05:51] <AMCDeathKnight> ok i have gnomeboy thing
[05:51] <bob2> danielrr: sure, by removing most of gnome.
[05:51] <bur[n] er> rob^: takes a bit to compile a plugin and make it work :\
[05:51] <AMCDeathKnight> but it wont get my games
[05:51] <bob2> danielrr: why would you not want it?
[05:51] <bur[n] er> not exactly 'easy'
[05:51] <sandis> bob2: it compiled well
[05:51] <bob2> sandis: it's using memory incorrectly
[05:51] <rob^> bur[n] er, I just complied the wma plugin for it, took me all of about 2 minutes
[05:51] <bob2> sandis: yes, C++ can't check those sort of things at compile time
[05:51] <bob2> generally
[05:52] <BitterGeek> Something's up with your hardware then, danielrr
[05:52] <bob2> sandis: put your code on the web somewhere
[05:52] <danielrr> is there away that I could have gstreamer not bei nstalled?
[05:52] <linlin> but everyone else in the thread is having the same problem, and he says his worked fine by doing whatever he did, but i dont know what he did
[05:52] <bur[n] er> rob^: compile crossfade, tray icon, and media library for me and make a .deb ;)
[05:52] <rob^> bur[n] er, heh
[05:52] <sandis> ok, give me a minute
[05:52] <bob2> danielrr: why do you want to get rid of it?
[05:52] <BitterGeek> Most linux apps don't sig11 unless there's bad hardware or something.
[05:52] <danielrr> is there away that I could have gstreamer not bei nstalled?
[05:52] <bur[n] er> i really have tried, i just can't get through all the hassles of the ./configure
[05:52] <rob^> bur[n] er, I might add a guide to the wiki, how about that?
[05:52] <bob2> danielrr: ignoring people trying to help you seems kinda dumb
[05:52] <bur[n] er> rob^: i'd dig it :)
[05:53] <bur[n] er> rob^: though according to bmp website, things are changing as they go to gstreamer
[05:53] <Randall64> IIIEars: Debian/sarge isn't too bad, but no multilib (32-bit) support.
[05:54] <bob2> that's multi-arch
[05:54] <rob^> bur[n] er, I'll check it out
[05:54] <danielrr> bob2 because it is haulting installation
[05:54] <FaRoFa_hC> I request my cd  of ubuntu in ship-it... Are 2 months to send my CD????
[05:54] <bob2> and it depends what you mean; it does have ia32-libs
[05:54] <bob2> FaRoFa_hC: has it shipped yet?
[05:54] <bob2> danielrr: on hoary?
[05:54] <Randall64> bob2: I mean what fedora does.
[05:54] <IIIEars> patiently taking notes - ;)
[05:54] <Kovecses> debian doesnt have xorg right?
[05:54] <FaRoFa_hC> bob2 hoary
[05:54] <bob2> Kovecses: sure it does
[05:54] <Randall64> Kovecses: It does now.
[05:55] <bob2> FaRoFa_hC: logon to shipit.ubuntu.com and see if it has shipped yet then
[05:55] <Randall64> Now to make Hoary bug reports.
[05:55] <Kovecses> bob2, what?
[05:55] <linlin> what does "I took the mythtv line out of hte sources.list and just left it with the multiverse edit" mean?
[05:55] <Kovecses> bob2, sarge does?
[05:55] <bur[n] er> rob^: let me know if you make something :)  i'd really be interested, i love winamp... miss it mucho
[05:55] <bob2> Kovecses: "yes, it does have x.org"
[05:55] <danielrr> bob2 on ubuntu 5.04 x86
[05:55] <IIIEars> not only free but tracked to your door? - nice.
[05:55] <bob2> Kovecses: no, sarge does not
[05:55] <Kovecses> bob2, etch?
[05:55] <rob^> bur[n] er, will do, there will be something in breezy also
[05:55] <bob2> danielrr: that's very weird, are you sure your cd is ok?
[05:55] <sandis> bob2: www.tume.lv/uzd2.tar.gz
[05:56] <bur[n] er> rob^: what will be in breezy?
[05:56] <sbatten2> Whats the best ftp server in ubuntu? Somethin easy and hopefully with a GUI would be wonderful
[05:56] <bob2> Kovecses: not yet, some core debian macines have been in transit
[05:56] <sandis> bob2: its console project in anjuta
[05:56] <Kovecses> bob2, so? ......... i would have to install and then add the sid repo's
[05:56] <rob^> bur[n] er, I'm adding BMP to the official FAQ, along with how to install plugins for it
[05:56] <arcanistherogue> hey, has anyone here installed UT2004 on linux?
[05:56] <bob2> sbatten2: anything doing ftp will be kinda arse, but vsftpd is one of the least bad
[05:56] <bob2> Kovecses: no, you'd wait for it to hit etch, if that's what you want
[05:57] <rob^> bur[n] er, but I'll make a copy for Horay and put it on the wiki
[05:57] <bob2> Kovecses: or use the sarge backport of it or ...
[05:57] <bur[n] er> rob^: very cool :)
[05:57] <sbatten2> bob2: thanks =)
[05:57] <Kovecses> bob2, yeah ok.... i will just wait
[05:57] <bob2> sandis: er, more than a trivial, program, ask #c++
[05:57] <bob2> sandis: valgrind and gdb will be your friends, tho
[05:57] <rob^> bur[n] er, yes, that will happen :)
[05:57] <Styx> Fixed it, thanks for your help :)
[05:57] <bob2> and just not using C constructs like malloc at all
[05:57] <danielrr> BOb2 I tried 4 copies that I got from Ubuntu plus a copy I downloaded fromy there site
[05:58] <sandis> bob2: no, its simple - 1 class only
[05:58] <arcanistherogue> anyone know how to install unreal tournament 2004?
[05:58] <bob2> sandis: why on earth is it a 500KB tarball then?
[05:58] <vinux> arcanistherogue, maybe
[05:58] <bob2> arcanistherogue: google found no guides at all?
[05:58] <bob2> danielrr: and did you check any of them?
[05:58] <sandis> bob2: makefiles and so
[05:58] <arcanistherogue> bob2: yeah, i couldn't find anything about hte problem im having
[05:58] <arcanistherogue> but i didnt really look to hard
[05:58] <bob2> anjuta is broken then
[05:59] <Randall64> Look at that!  Ubuntu actually knows display's native resolution!
[05:59] <vinux> arcanistherogue, hte?
[05:59] <delltony> anyone now of a good chm reader for linux? i have tried xchm but the chm file i have for some reason is not readable with xchm
[05:59] <arcanistherogue> vinux: V_V  the
[05:59] <vinux> arcanistherogue, what's the problem?
[05:59] <arcanistherogue> well, when i install it says to insert CD 2, but even when its in it doesnt read it
[06:00] <bob2> sandis: works here
[06:00] <vinux> arcanistherogue, what do you mean by doesn't read it? Does the window that pops up that says mount disk 2 go away?
[06:00] <WaX> how is everyone tonight
[06:01] <arcanistherogue> no, i just keep hitting "yes" and it wont accept.
[06:01] <WaX> What are you thought on Ubuntu?
[06:01] <vinux> arcanistherogue, ah yes I had this problem
[06:01] <bob2> sandis: anyway, run it under valgrind and gdb, and try #c++
[06:01] <frank> arcanistherogue: what if you mount the disks manually as you go?
[06:01] <arcanistherogue> vinux: whats the solution?
[06:01] <bob2> sandis: assuming you're sure your memroy is ok
[06:01] <bur[n] er> WaX: ?
[06:01] <Randall64> I think I'd like the installer to get grub right.
[06:01] <arcanistherogue> let me try that
[06:01] <WaX> burner
[06:01] <bob2> Randall64: if it did something wrong, please file a bug
[06:01] <sandis> memtest was ok
[06:02] <Kovecses> who here uses gnome?
[06:02] <Randall64> bob2: I am, I am
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> not me
[06:02] <bur[n] er> thoughts on ubuntu.... it's great :)
[06:02] <vinux> arcanistherogue, thinking. hmm let me see what was it. ok do you have to cd or dvd roms?
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> cd
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> oh i got it working
[06:02] <WaX> Have you tried alot of distros
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> mounting them manually
[06:02] <arcanistherogue> that works
[06:02] <Kovecses> bur[n] er, u like ubuntu?
[06:02] <vinux> arcanistherogue, woot yes I was going to say that :)
[06:02] <Kovecses> bur[n] er, what were you using before?
[06:02] <sandis> bob2: thanx anyway
[06:02] <sbatten2> ok, i'm looking through the man pages for vsftpd, but I can't find where I set which directory I want to be the ftp directory :(
[06:02] <bob2> WaX: ##linux might be a better place to ask
[06:02] <thechristelegacy> hey, I read in the Ubuntu doc that this is the place to come for help.   Does anyone in here use a Dell Dimension desktop with dial-up with ubuntu ?
[06:02] <vinux> arcanistherogue, I use gnome :)
[06:03] <bob2> thechristelegacy: it's way better to ask your whole question up front
[06:03] <arcanistherogue> my kde looks real nice though :D
[06:03] <bob2> your problem is unlikely to be dell-dimension- or ubuntu-specific
[06:03] <BitterGeek> Dell? Don't tell me it has a winmodem inside.
[06:03] <bur[n] er> slackware -> redhat -> mandrake -> JBLinux -> Slackware -> Morphix ->Debian -> Ubuntu
[06:03] <sandis> bob2: couldn it be bug in gcc/autotools or anything?
[06:03] <bob2> sandis: highly unlikely
[06:03] <bur[n] er> and i've tried a couple other distros along the way
[06:03] <bur[n] er> fedora here and there
[06:03] <frank> bur[n] er: thats quite a journey!
[06:03] <bob2> sandis: run it under valgrind and it will show you what went wrong
[06:03] <sbatten2> there is anon_root, but I'm not sure if thats gonna let people go up in the tree which would be bad
[06:03] <WaX> Why im curius about Ubuntu? i have tried alot of distros and wondering why this is so popular so quick?
[06:03] <sandis> ok, thanx
[06:03] <bur[n] er> WaX: apt rules the world
[06:04] <arcanistherogue> i know :D
[06:04] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Is there a windows-only modem in that Dell?
[06:04] <bur[n] er> things are simple and "just work" for the most part
[06:04] <WaX> yes i agree apt is nice
[06:04] <bob2> WaX: try it and see then
[06:04] <bob2> this isn't an advocacy channel
[06:04] <Kovecses> i thought i would never use anything but debian......i just couldnt help it ubuntu is just to damn good
[06:04] <arcanistherogue> Kubuntu right here :D
[06:04] <vinux> bur[n] er, hey I like slack alot but ubuntu comes first place with apt-get
[06:04] <bur[n] er> ;)
[06:04] <thechristelegacy> thanks for the advice bob2 :)    My problem is that when I try to connect to the internet, well I simply can't, I have no idea where to go to get onto the internet. There is nothing in the internet tab for it. The one area I found was administration/networking, but it couldnt detect the modem, but I have no idea how to figure out what the moden is, if it is a winmodem, or not, or if that even is the problem
[06:04] <WaX> I plan too, is anyone running kde ?
[06:05] <arcanistherogue> I am!
[06:05] <bob2> thechristelegacy: is it an internal modem?
[06:05] <thoreauputic> *g*
[06:05] <thechristelegacy> bob2: yes
[06:05] <WaX> running ok?
[06:05] <arcanistherogue> yeah
[06:05] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: is that allowed? ;)
[06:05] <sbatten2> anyone here familiar with vsftp?
[06:05] <arcanistherogue> its running great
[06:05] <bob2> thechristelegacy: it's unlikely to be a proper modem then
[06:05] <ilba7r> is there a program i need to download to associate certain type of files .lyx with certain program lyx in gnome
[06:05] <WaX> I cant really stand gnome
[06:05] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: oops
[06:05] <thoreauputic> ;)
[06:05] <bob2> thechristelegacy: does google say anything about your hardware and linux?
[06:05] <Kovecses> WaX, you use kde
[06:05] <Kovecses> ?
[06:05] <bob2> sbatten2: #vsftp or #vsftpd might be a better place to ask
[06:06] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Did the modem come with the Dell?
[06:06] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Yes
[06:06] <thechristelegacy> bob2: I'll search google right now
[06:06] <WaX> currently on fedora... but I will on Ubuntu when I run it
[06:06] <BitterGeek> 9 outta 10 it's a winmodem since they're the cheapest to put into a PC.
[06:06] <bob2> yeah
[06:06] <Madpilot> bob2: is vsftpd a GUI or CLI ftp client?
[06:06] <bob2> which will be a pain
[06:07] <bob2> Madpilot: it's a ftp server
[06:07] <Kovecses> i like kde but i find it buggy
[06:07] <bob2> I hope there are no ftp servers with guis on linux
[06:07] <frank> Kovecses: the latest version of kde is much less buggy
[06:07] <hybrid_goth> bob2:?
[06:07] <ilba7r> is there a program i need to download to associate certain type of files .lyx with certain program lyx in gnome
[06:07] <calc> vsftpd isn't a client
[06:07] <Madpilot> bob2: ah, ok. thought it was a client. gFTP desperately needs a replacement...
[06:07] <WaX> Kovecses, yeah it has its issues but lately i have had little problems
[06:07] <bob2> Madpilot: nautilus doesn't work for you?
[06:07] <bob2> hybrid_goth: hm?
[06:07] <Kovecses> frank, 3.4.1..........
[06:07] <ilba7r> sorry i was disconnected for a while
[06:07] <BitterGeek> You have two options: Find out if you can get winmodem support working for that modem. Or buy a new modem that works with Linux.
[06:07] <frank> Kovesces 3.4.2 is out
[06:07] <calc> lftp is a nice ftp client
[06:07] <Kovecses> frank, is that what you use?
[06:07] <hybrid_goth> bob2: why would you care if the ftp is gui or not
[06:07] <WaX> tho i dont do as much tinkering as i used to
[06:08] <Madpilot> bob2: not always. plus it has limitations - no CHMOD ability for starters
[06:08] <bob2> hybrid_goth: because ftp servers ru nas root
[06:08] <frank> Kovecses: since this morning, yeah
[06:08] <hybrid_goth> ah
[06:08] <Kovecses> frank, is 3.4.2 in any repos yet?
[06:08] <bob2> root + gui = stupid
[06:08] <hybrid_goth> lol
[06:08] <Kovecses> bob2, well said
[06:08] <bob2> hybrid_goth: I don't have a problem with gui config tools that twiddle the config files
[06:08] <frank> http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php
[06:08] <Kovecses> frank, thanks
[06:09] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy? Did you get read the stuff about needing a new modem or hacking the modem in the Dell to work with Ubuntu?
[06:09] <evilyoda> I can't remember the fix for the problem where X can't find the 'fixed' font - it's under breezy and I've had it working before
[06:10] <WaX> This distro is #1 on distrowatch, was wondering why it is so popular as opposed to other distros
[06:10] <WaX> Ease?
[06:10] <bob2> WaX: try it and see
[06:10] <hybrid_goth> ease of use
[06:10] <hybrid_goth> power
[06:10] <hybrid_goth> apt
[06:10] <hybrid_goth> many many more
[06:10] <Kovecses> frank, getting kde3.4.2 ..... should i get kubuntu-desktop or kde?
[06:10] <ilba7r> wax best support non broken repos you name it
[06:10] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: No I didn't is it on the install documentation on the CD?
[06:10] <WaX> thanks
[06:11] <frank> Kovecses: I just updated (smart update in synaptic)
[06:11] <Kovecses> frank, im using gnome though
[06:11] <frank> Kovecses: It will install a few new things like noatun and others
[06:11] <frank> Kovecses: oh.
[06:12] <frank> Kovecses: Well did you want all of kde? for that get kubuntu-dektop
[06:12] <Kovecses> im gonna go with straight kde
[06:12] <WaX> Thanks for the info fellas
[06:12] <WaX> have a great night
[06:12] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Try to locate your modem on this list. http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/index.php?cat=121
[06:13] <thechristelegacy> thanks BitterGeek, give me a few minutes and I'll report back :)
[06:14] <Kovecses> now is there a way to completely remove kde if i dont like it?
[06:14] <dcgarri> I've been using Ubuntu for one hour.  This is my first attempt at Linux.  How to I install an rpm file?
[06:14] <Kovecses> dcgarri, well
[06:14] <hybrid_goth> dcgarri: ubuntu doesnt use rpm
[06:14] <Kovecses> dcgarri, ubuntu is not an rpm distro
[06:14] <hybrid_goth> if you can get the .deb
[06:15] <thoreauputic> !synaptic
[06:15] <ubotu> it has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:15] <Kovecses> dcgarri, but you can use alien debfile to create a deb
[06:15] <Madpilot> or install from the repos via Synaptic
[06:15] <evilyoda> will somebody tell me how I can get X working under breezy - keeps saying it can't use the 'fixed' font
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dcgarri: read the URL ubotu just spat out
[06:15] <hybrid_goth> Kovecses: it is best to try to get the deb first
[06:15] <Kovecses> hybrid_goth, yes
[06:15] <jasmuz> evilyoda: why dont you read in the forums
[06:15] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Winmodems are the work of Satan. They will cause more grief (flaky connections on bad phone lines, stability issues, etc). Foolish greedy PC makers trying to cut corners!
[06:15] <dcgarri> thank you much... I was wanting to install limewire, but the format was rpm... unless you guys recommend a better p2p
[06:16] <hybrid_goth> alien = still expiremental
[06:16] <Kovecses> why would you use breezy/
[06:16] <Kovecses> ?
[06:16] <hybrid_goth> dcgarri: bittorrent
[06:16] <Kovecses> hybrid_goth, alien works great for me
[06:16] <jasmuz> dcgarri: gtk-gnutella
[06:16] <bob2> Kovecses: if you install it with aptitude, just remving kubuntu-desktop will get rid of it
[06:17] <dcgarri> thanks!
[06:17] <hybrid_goth> Kovecses: but if you look at debian.org it will *always* be expirememntal
[06:17] <hybrid_goth> alien that is
[06:17] <nothingsometing> can someone point me to a forum that is for dummies trying to start samba ............or prehaps something on how to swt up SWAT to where i can use it to configure samba.
[06:17] <Kovecses> bob2, yeah but i just got kde...not kubuntu-desktop......oops
[06:17] <nothingsometing> SET*
[06:17] <bob2> Kovecses: same deal, remove kde then
[06:17] <dcgarri> oh yes, one more extension question... .run files?
[06:18] <bob2> nothingsometing: it didn't start by default?
[06:18] <hybrid_goth> nothingsometingL what so you wanna do exactly
[06:18] <Kovecses> bob2, how dpkg -r kde?
[06:18] <bob2> dcgarri: the file will have instructions
[06:18] <bob2> Kovecses: no
[06:18] <bob2> Kovecses: did you use aptitude to install it?
[06:18] <dcgarri> thanks
[06:18] <nothingsometing> actually it did start but i can't acess it from windows
[06:18] <Kovecses> bob2, yeah
[06:18] <bob2> Kovecses: then remove it with aptitude
[06:18] <bob2> Kovecses: _ on the kde package
[06:18] <bob2> nothingsometing: did you set the correct work group?
[06:18] <Kovecses> bob2, this might sound dumb but i dont know how
[06:19] <bob2> _
[06:19] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Yeah, I read that they're software based and used drivers that come with the OS
[06:19] <Kovecses> sudo apt-get remove?
[06:19] <bob2> Kovecses: dude, no
[06:19] <thoreauputic> Kovecses: use aptitude
[06:19] <nothingsometing> i wold rather set the work group in SWAT than the .config file
[06:19] <bob2> Kovecses: run aptitude.  select the kde package.  hit _
[06:19] <DukGalNamu> anyone know where i can find a list of prism based wifi cards?
[06:20] <nothingsometing> it's more GUI if you know what i mean
[06:20] <levander> Do bugs filed in the ubuntu bugzilla usually get responded to?
[06:20] <bur[n] er> how come when I made a "connect to server" link on my desktop for an ftp site, my PC wants to use firefox instead of nautilus?
[06:20] <bob2> DukGalNamu: usually easier to google for your card and "linux"
[06:20] <Kovecses> bob2, ok..........i used apt to get kde
[06:20] <bob2> levander: yes, but if you just filed it, expect to wait
[06:20] <bob2> Kovecses: so, when I said "did you use aptitude to install it?", what did you mean by "yeah"?
[06:20] <nothingsometing> and yes it is on the right workgroup
[06:20] <DukGalNamu> bob2: i am an oem, so i end up haveing several hundred cards to choose from in the 15-60
[06:21] <Kovecses> bob2, sorry man i thought apt was short for aptitude
[06:21] <DukGalNamu> dollar range
[06:21] <linlin> i need to install "qt" how do i do such?
[06:21] <bob2> Kovecses: then it's not simple to remove it
[06:21] <levander> bob2: i haven't filed yet, i realize it's probably not exact, but, wait a week, wait a month? there's a general idea of how long it takes to get to those?
[06:21] <bob2> linlin: sudo aptitude install libqt3-mt
[06:21] <bob2> linlin: week
[06:21] <bob2> levander: week
[06:21] <linlin> that was fast :) thanks
[06:21] <levander> bob2: oh, that's really pretty good
[06:21] <bob2> Kovecses: use aptitude in future, and try using debfoster for now
[06:21] <ntom> hey, anyone know whether u need an extra plugin to get sound to work on VLC?
[06:21] <nothingsometing> i just don't have any users set up to be able to log into samba from my laptop(windows xp) because it needs authenication
[06:21] <bob2> DukGalNamu: your suppliers can't tell you that sort of thing?
[06:21] <Kovecses> bob2, ok///
[06:21] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: I did find that modem on the list, it's an Intel 537EP V9x DF PCI modem
[06:21] <levander> bob2: can I file bugs for packages in universe in there?
[06:22] <DukGalNamu> most don't
[06:22] <bob2> levander: no, use launchpad.ubuntu.com
[06:22] <dcgarri> bob2, when i attempt to execute the ".run" file, I get a message in gedit saying that the character coding could not be detected
[06:22] <nothingsometing> am i right bob2
[06:22] <DukGalNamu> bob2: and even if they did, the makers can change the chipset on you
[06:22] <DukGalNamu> bob2: and frequently do
[06:22] <bob2> nothingsometing: enable anonymous sharing then
[06:22] <BitterGeek> Hmmm.
[06:22] <bob2> DukGalNamu: tha'ts kinda crap :/
[06:22] <bob2> anyway, lunch
[06:22] <ntom> hey, anyone know whether u need an extra plugin to get sound to work on VLC???
[06:22] <nothingsometing> bob2 if i could do that i could probbally create users right?
[06:22] <DukGalNamu> bob2: is there a list anywhere?
[06:22] <nothingsometing> or wrong
[06:23] <evilyoda> q
[06:23] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Winmodem!
[06:23] <dcgarri> ok, bobs gone... can anyone inform me as to how I would open a .run file?  I'm trying to update ATI drivers
[06:23] <rob^> dcgarri, you need to chmod +x the file
[06:23] <rob^> then do ./filename
[06:23] <Burgundavia> dcgarri, the ati driver info can be found here --> wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Yeah, I'm going to google for drivers
[06:24] <nothingsometing> bob2: i tought that windows xp demanded authenication
[06:24] <dcgarri> thank you
[06:24] <frank> dcgarri:  sh filename.run
[06:24] <delltony> is there a recommended chm viewer for linux? i have tried xchm but having issues with it (not reading file)
[06:24] <Burgundavia> rob^, recommend the existing apt method before that one
[06:24] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: they may not be in Ubuntu. If you're desperate, you may have to build your own kernel.
[06:24] <rob^> Burgundavia, yeah, I didnt read what he needed it for, all he asked was how to run a .run file :)
[06:25] <Burgundavia> rob^, yes, usually you need to read past the first question
[06:25] <nothingsometing> bob2 or someone where is the config file that lets me create groups and users and permisions
[06:25] <rob^> Burgundavia, right..
[06:25] <Kovecses> u guys are so touchy relax
[06:25] <nothingsometing> is that still the same config file
[06:25] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Lol, I can't even build hello world yet, if I were to happen to find a driver online, burn it to a diskm can you install drivers without recompiling the kernel?
[06:25] <zerboxx> For some reason, after amsn has been up for a while, it just freezes, I can't get rid of the windows, and I've tried killing it (-9) and nothing.  Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
[06:26] <gparent> Hey.
[06:26] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: sudo pkill amsn ?
[06:26] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: You can but it's rather technical
[06:27] <gparent> Anybody has the error message "Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:"
[06:27] <gparent> When talking on msn
[06:27] <thechristelegacy> Bitter
[06:27] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Well I'm up for the challenge I supose
[06:27] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: That didn't get rid of the windows, but I'd also like to stop it from freezing in the first place
[06:27] <levander> It really surprises me how few people are using dvd-rw's with ubuntu
[06:28] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: sure - that would be nice ;)
[06:28] <levander> cause i'm starting to think udftools just doesn't work in ubuntu
[06:28] <danielrr> if I still have a problem w/ install could I bypass installling gstreamer?
[06:28] <Kovecses> levander, if i had some i would use them
[06:28] <Slipjack> Okay, I installed XviD and w32codecs and still can't watch encoded videos!
[06:28] <frank> levander: I never tried to use one
[06:28] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: try xkill to zap the windowwith your mouse
[06:28] <mike> yo
[06:28] <anomaly> I figure I can try ubuntu on this old test box.. 400mhz/128mb ram. should be fast enough for basic things.
[06:28] <Kovecses> yeah xkill is good
[06:28] <BitterGeek> thechristelegacy: Is $60 cheaper than you time and sanity. If so, better to buy a new modem that is not a softmodem.
[06:28] <mike> anybody know how to make eterm transparent on your background with kubuntu?
[06:28] <ricosuave17> u dudes r no help
[06:29] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: xkill did the trick, thanks
[06:29] <regeya> here's what I recommend for totem users: gstreamer is still under development, give totem-xine a try.
[06:29] <levander> well, don't go and buy a dvdrw drive expecting to use it with ubuntu, cause i'm really starting to think that the udftools package just doesn't work
[06:29] <frank> Slipjack: what kind?
[06:29] <thechristelegacy> BitterGeek: Thanks for the advice, I may just go that route
[06:29] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: satisfying isn't it? I like zapping stuff with xkill (not that I've needed to lately )
[06:29] <Slipjack> frank: Mostly XviD backups of my DVDs.
[06:30] <frank> try with vlc?
[06:30] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: *sigh* I see now that when this happens I'll have to do a reboot to get amsn back up.  May have to switch to gaim *cringe*
[06:30] <ricosuave17> anyone wanan help plz
[06:30] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: as to the freezing, I don't know
[06:30] <Slipjack> frank: Not yet. I've heard about it.  Have any good ones?
[06:31] <zerboxx> jasoncohen: What should I or shouldn't I see?
[06:31] <ubuntu> now in room 218
[06:31] <jasoncohen> zerboxx, well, if you killed amsn you should see nothing but grep amsn
[06:31] <ricosuave17> well dudes why not u listen to me. just tell me how to fix my screen size. im on serial console
[06:31] <ubuntu> very strong connection
[06:31] <frank> Slipjack: do you have universe, multiverse and backports enabled?
[06:31] <ubuntu> wired
[06:31] <nalioth> ubuntu join ##apple please
[06:31] <bob2> ricosuave17: perhaps no one knows
[06:31] <frank> Slipjack: how did you install w32codecs
[06:32] <ubuntu> ##apple
[06:32] <bob2> ricosuave17: or perhaps you haven't explained the problem very well
[06:32] <zerboxx> jasoncohen: mind if I open a dialog box, so I don't spam in here?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: I seem to recall there's a terminal/ cli app that does msn (can't remember the name atm)
[06:32] <ricosuave17> then what is there for me to do
[06:32] <Slipjack> frank: .deb package :)
[06:32] <bob2> ricosuave17: ask a single coherent question
[06:32] <bob2> ricosuave17: on a single line
[06:32] <Slipjack> frank: Don't know about universe, multiverse, backports... been away from Linux for a while.
[06:32] <bob2> ricosuave17: explaining what isn't working, what you'vew tried, and how you got into this mess to begin with
[06:32] <frank> Slipjack: ill send you my source.list if you want?
[06:32] <ricosuave17> ok right now im stuck on real console. all i need is to fix my resolution size. how do i do this without gnome
[06:32] <Madpilot> !repos
[06:32] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:33] <Slipjack> frank: Sure! That would help a lot.
[06:33] <bob2> ricosuave17: no, explain what on earth "resolution size" means, and how you broke it to begin wit
[06:33] <ricosuave17> i tried to make my resolution bigger. u do know what resolution is right?
[06:33] <danielrr> .install halted again because og gstreamer
[06:33] <levander> If it's any consolation, the guys in #fedora are ignoring udftools questions too.   It's usually commented for me
[06:35] <Slipjack> frank: Okay. And this is to be put in my /usr/apt dir?
[06:35] <ricosuave17> bob2:  what will that command do becuase i just reinstalled xorg
[06:35] <bob2> ricosuave17: you reinstalled it incorrectly
[06:35] <frank> Slipjack: it goes in /etc/apt/
[06:36] <BitterGeek> danielrr: your PC used to freeze when it was running Fedora RC4. There must be some sort of harware problem.
[06:36] <ricosuave17> nop
[06:36] <ray_> now running kde 3.4.2
[06:36] <bob2> ricosuave17: in future, do not touch config files until you have a backup
[06:36] <bob2> ricosuave17: yes, you did, sorry
[06:36] <bob2> ricosuave17: read the dpkg man page to find out what -P does
[06:36] <Slipjack> frank: Thanks. Never had something as powerful as Synaptic. I have my Linux+ cert but I haven't used Linux in like a year. You're a big help right now
[06:36] <ricosuave17> alright but the thing is all i want cause everything is fine is to make my resolution bigger but it only detected 800*600 on my video card
[06:37] <nothingsometing> bob2: i found the smb.config document b4 loging on but i thought that that was the actual config file for samba if that isn't then what is the file that i would actualy need to edit in a word processor, it soulds like you are saying th smb.conf file is more like a refrance than a editing document or am i still cnfused?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: funnily enough, bob2 tends to know wtf he's talking about
[06:37] <bob2> leet speak is annoying
[06:37] <flyingsolo> can someone tell me how to install Java and Limewire on my comp. im 100% new to linux
[06:37] <BitterGeek> lolz d00d :-)
[06:37] <bob2> nothingsometing: /etc/samba/smb.conf is the config file, iirc
[06:37] <ricosuave17> i know but im just trying to know what is going to happen so i can knoe if i already tried that
[06:37] <bob2> all my machines with samba are offline, unfortunately
[06:38] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: he wants you to "purge" what you have before reinstalling it
[06:38] <ricosuave17> ok. thanks thoreauputic
[06:38] <nothingsometing> bob2:  it will also tell me how to edit itself properly?
[06:38] <ricosuave17> bob2: can i get that plz becuase i have no screen buffer
[06:38] <bob2> ricosuave17: yes you do, hit scroll up
[06:38] <bob2> nothingsometing: yes
[06:39] <danielrr> can any one tell me if there isb a way to bypass installing gstreamer durining installation of ubuntu?
[06:39] <jasoncohen> shouldn't "gdb gaim" run gaim and show output in gdb?
[06:39] <ricosuave17> nop im on irssi and on real console
[06:39] <bob2> nothingsometing: just copy one of the blocks at the bottom (like the cdrom one) and edit it
[06:39] <bob2> ricosuave17: then page up will work fine
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: bob2 ricosuave17: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo aptitude
[06:39] <bob2> danielrr: no, sorry
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: sorry that isn't complete
[06:39] <bob2> danielrr: it sounds very much like your cd or computer are broken
[06:39] <bob2> jasoncohen: no
[06:39] <bob2> jasoncohen: you need to give it the run command
[06:40] <ricosuave17> ok. ill do that
[06:40] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: bob2 ricosuave17: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg
[06:40] <bob2> jasoncohen: but it wont be much use, gaim in ubuntu has no debugging symbols
[06:40] <jasoncohen> zerboxx wants to use it for amsn
[06:40] <Dakel> I can't get the google.com name to resolve, although the IP address works and all other URLs work. Anyone else with this problem?
[06:40] <jasoncohen> but gdb amsn doesn't work
[06:40] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: BTW page-up to scroll back in irssi
[06:40] <danielrr> well cd and computer works both for fedora core 4 and suse bob2
[06:41] <bob2> jasoncohen: amsn is written in tcl
[06:41] <frank> Dakel: maybe they are having problems
[06:41] <jasoncohen> bob2, so, what should zerboxx use to debug it?
[06:42] <bob2> jasoncohen: I wouldn't bother
[06:42] <jasoncohen> ok
[06:42] <bob2> jasoncohen: and it depends a lot on what the bug is
[06:42] <Dakel> frank: It worked at the office (WinXP) and at home (Win98), but not Firefox in Ubuntu. I can ping it, though.
[06:42] <bob2> if the tcl interpreter is crashing, you could gdb that
[06:42] <jasoncohen> he says it crashes for no apparent reason while he's typing
[06:42] <bob2> just file a bug then
[06:43] <bob2> unless you know tcl already
[06:43] <Dakel> frank: It's been this way just a few days.
[06:43] <jasoncohen> bob2, ok, i told him to file a bug
[06:43] <ricosuave17> bob2 it seems to stil have xfree86 somewere in the memory
[06:43] <bob2> ricosuave17: awesome
[06:43] <bob2> but unrelated
[06:44] <AMCDeathKnight> Who knows away to run Activeworlds in ubuntu?
[06:44] <zerboxx> bob2: I will file a bug as you suggested, but all I can say is that it just crashed, kinda seems pointless
[06:44] <ricosuave17> no i mean might that be a problem?
[06:44] <bob2> ricosuave17: no
[06:44] <bob2> zerboxx: indeed
[06:45] <bob2> if someone cares about amsn, they can follow up and request more info from you
[06:45] <zerboxx> bob2: hehe ok, thanks
[06:45] <ricosuave17> bob2: one more little thing x is working fine except i would like to get a bigger resolution
[06:45] <Slipjack> frank: Downloading vlc now. Hopefully this will fix my problem.
[06:45] <MrGardenHoseMan> vlc > *
[06:45] <bob2> ricosuave17: indeed.  leave it alone and read the wiki
[06:45] <bob2> !+resolution
[06:45] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:45] <bob2> and back any file youre about to edit up
[06:45] <bob2> me good grammar
[06:46] <ricosuave17> i tried that yesterday and thats what brought me to this problem
[06:46] <ricosuave17> i tried that file and it didnt do much
[06:46] <bob2> oh wel
[06:46] <ricosuave17> i know my video card can go higher but it sticks to 1024
[06:46] <bob2> file a bug and wait, I guess
[06:46] <bob2> or find someone who'll walk you through it
[06:46] <thoreauputic> bob2: that is the kind of English up with which we will not put! *g*
[06:46] <bob2> being abusive on IRC will not help, tho
[06:47] <Slipjack> Excellent! vlc works great. Even played the .wmv file.
[06:48] <nothingsometing> bob2: can i also create users, groups, and permissions with this same config file???????
[06:48] <ricosuave17> bob2: how can i reconfigure just my resolution not my whole x
[06:49] <TooNamI> hello
[06:51] <Slipjack> Hello TooNamI
[06:51] <jasoncohen> ricosuave17, generally you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and change the resolution & supported resolution to the max your monitor supports or that you want to use
[06:51] <Xyc0> What is the name of the file that defines the default application associations?
[06:51] <ricosuave17> ok thanks but will that mess with my other options?
[06:52] <jasoncohen> ricosuave17, you also might need to manually specify the horizontal & vertical sync rates. use "sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange" to find yours
[06:52] <TooNamI> hi I am having a bit of trouble with ubuntu cant seem to figure this out... im running a p4 2.8e w/ ati 9600pro xt... When i install the max reso is 600x460 -- i tried the reconfigure xserver and it lets me use a higher resolution but its virtual... My screen is still in lower resolution and i have to scroll around
[06:53] <JonasNZ> YAY! i just got my CD's
[06:53] <jasoncohen> ricosuave17, just hit enter on options you don't want to change to keep the current setting
[06:53] <ricosuave17> ok
[06:53] <nothingsometing> in a config file can someone tell me what the " # " (pound sgin) is at the left for?
[06:53] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, that's for comments or to comment out a line
[06:53] <TooNamI> after i ran config for x it stuck the ati card's tv out to on
[06:53] <nothingsometing> what pourpous does it serve
[06:53] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, anything with a # as the first character is ignored
[06:54] <nothingsometing> ooooooooooh
[06:54] <nothingsometing> this makes alot more scence
[06:54] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: 1) help to understand the file 2) disables stuff you don't want
[06:54] <dispatcher> hello nalioth
[06:54] <nothingsometing> so what about the "  ; " sign
[06:54] <thoreauputic> nothingsometing: in some files that is a comment too
[06:55] <nothingsometing> i seen that one next to stuff that look like commands
[06:55] <nalioth> dispatcher: type /join ##apple    please
[06:55] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, ; can also be used in a command to run multiple commands after one another
[06:55] <jasoncohen> like "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:55] <jasoncohen> first it updates and then it upgrades
[06:55] <nothingsometing> i'm trying to edit smb.conf
[06:56] <nothingsometing> jasoncohen: so that's whay i was asking
[06:56] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, you might want to use swat
[06:56] <nothingsometing> i don't know how to
[06:56] <nothingsometing> i was asking how to earlyer but noone would tel me
[06:57] <nothingsometing> i read in google that that was the smart way to go
[06:57] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, sudo apt-get install swat
[06:57] <bob2> nothingsometing: no, if you want users and groups you have to go find a samba howto
[06:57] <bob2> nothingsometing: #samba can no doubt point you at the right places
[06:57] <nothingsometing> jasoncohen: no no no, i have it
[06:57] <bob2> ricosuave17: that doesn't mean anything
[06:58] <nothingsometing> jasoncohen: samba howto??
[06:58] <bob2> nothingsometing: dude
[06:58] <bob2> nothingsometing: type "samba howto" in to google
[06:58] <bob2> nothingsometing: look at the second line
[06:59] <Randall64> ugh, unsupported features in my ext3 filesystem?  You've got to be kidding.
[06:59] <nothingsometing> bob2: google linux or google normal
[06:59] <bob2> Randall64: yay fedora
[06:59] <bob2> nothingsometing: either
[06:59] <Randall64> It doesn't even load a keyboard driver when it fails.
[06:59] <bob2> it's unlikely that there;s a keyboard driver to load
[07:00] <Randall64> It tells me it's mounted ro, like a regular failed autofsck.
[07:00] <bob2> you created the filesystem with fedora 4?
[07:00] <Randall64> debian
[07:00] <Randall64> iirc
[07:00] <bob2> I'd be very very surprised then
[07:00] <Madpilot> back in a bit, fooling with Opera's configs
[07:01] <Randall64> I'm fsck'ing under knoppix now.
[07:01] <bob2> Randall64: http://www.cims.nyu.edu/~barnett/laptop_setup/
[07:02] <bob2> perhaps that will help
[07:02] <bob2> tho I'm not sure how to set it in /
[07:02] <redtech> ok, whats the easiet way to add/modify links in the applications menu?
[07:02] <bob2> !+smeg
[07:02] <ubotu> from memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:02] <Randall64> Well, I'm probably going to shrink this partition, then do a new one with a clean Hoary.
[07:02] <redtech> <3
[07:02] <Randall64> If that fails I'll probably give this peecee to family and buy a tivo.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> I got a little HD-DVD TV recorder box at walmart for like $230 with a 80gb hd.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> i think its even down to $200 or so now. :P an record to HD or to dvd disk. (6 hrs on dvd)
[07:06] <danielrr> good nig all gtanks for the help
[07:06] <redtech> bob2, and what would be the built in way?
[07:07] <bob2> using smeg
[07:07] <bob2> or maybe mv
[07:07] <redtech> ahh ok.  thx
[07:10] <jasoncohen> hmm, i can't seem to get swat to start because i can't start the inetd service
[07:10] <Randall64> Why won't inetd start?
[07:11] <jasoncohen> not sure
[07:11] <Randall64> no logging?
[07:11] <jasoncohen> um...and now it works fine
[07:11] <jasoncohen> all i did was comment out a line and open a new terminal
[07:11] <Randall64> Just try nfs under linux.  You'll be even more mystified.
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Randall64: ? NFS isn't hard - I'm pretty much a network beginner and i have it running fine
[07:13] <jasoncohen> i do use NFS
[07:13] <ToRTuReD_X> hey guys
[07:13] <Randall64> thore: Just keep at it.  It'll fail in all manner of mysterious ways.
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Randall64: so far so good - /me crosses fingers
[07:14] <salapoliisi> can i install 32bit ubuntu somehow with 64bit cd?
[07:14] <apprentice> can i run mutiple Xs
[07:14] <apprentice> like i run mutiple terminals
[07:15] <Randall64> sala: nope, can't get a 32-bit cd?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> salapoliisi: I think the answer would be no
[07:15] <bob2> of course
[07:15] <Randall64> apprentice: yes
[07:15] <apprentice> how?
[07:15] <Randall64> apprentice: X :1 will start another one
[07:15] <jasoncohen> Randall64, i have no clue what's going on with inetd
[07:15] <salapoliisi> can i use 64bit ubuntu cd so that i could install 32bit version from internet?
[07:15] <jasoncohen> now it's just not giving any output but isn't working
[07:15] <Randall64> jason: Well, there's always xinetd
[07:15] <apprentice> but can i swithc betweens x without the closing. cause if i run an x and switch to a console X closes
[07:16] <Randall64> sala: nope
[07:16] <jasoncohen> root@jasonslaptop:~# /etc/init.d/inetd start
[07:16] <jasoncohen> root@jasonslaptop:~# ps ax | grep swat
[07:16] <jasoncohen>  9708 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep swat
[07:16] <Randall64> apprentice: I wonder why it does that.  What's on the vc X should be running on?
[07:16] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[07:17] <psychonate> why, when I bring up a terminal, does it have me by default in / rather than in ~?
[07:17] <Madpilot> just playing with the Ubuntu Wiki, and I'd like opinions on this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser - which I've just created
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> if the users home dir does not exist it goes to /
[07:17] <thoreauputic> apprentice:  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html
[07:17] <psychonate> The directory actually changes from time to time. Sometimes when I open up a terminal, it's at some other directory
[07:17] <Randall64> psychonate: Did you startx from the console in / perchance?
[07:17] <apprentice> i am sorry thoreauputic  but i will need for u 2 send that link again later on i cant do much on console
[07:17] <ToRTuReD_X> god i love ubuntu
[07:18] <ToRTuReD_X> just needa find out how to set it up to auto login
[07:18] <psychonate> Randall64, no. GDM.
[07:18] <psychonate> GDM started X, I mean.
[07:18] <thoreauputic> apprentice: just get a pencil and paper dude
[07:18] <psychonate> I'm fairly sure the default directory changes though, but I'm not sure why
[07:18] <thoreauputic> :/
[07:18] <apprentice> ok
[07:18] <Randall64> psychonate: Maybe there's a pref to tell it which directory to start in.  Do xterms do the same thing?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> apprentice: advanced technology, eh ?
[07:19] <psychonate> I don't know what's doing it, but it's causing problems with XMMS because I get strange "Directory unreadable: No such file or directory when I try to add files."
[07:19] <Randall64> links is pretty snazzy on the console imo
[07:19] <Randall64> But I'm comparing it to lynx.
[07:19] <psychonate> Randall64, yeah, xterm did the same thing.
[07:19] <apprentice> nop i just really like real console with no x
[07:19] <psychonate> I don't know why it doesn't always start in the same directory, let alone my home directory.
[07:20] <jasoncohen> what's the inetd package?
[07:20] <Randall64> qtparted hates my ext3 too, so I'm using resize2fs, then I'll make this peecee my bitch
[07:20] <psychonate> or, rather, why it doesn't start in my home dir
[07:20] <Randall64> psychonate: a ha!
[07:20] <psychonate> eh?
[07:20] <psychonate> er, don't get me excited :(
[07:20] <thoreauputic> apprentice: you can start another session ( alt-F2 ; login ; links  http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html
[07:20] <thoreauputic> for example
[07:20] <psychonate> I can't add individual files in XMMS atm
[07:20] <psychonate> because of htis
[07:20] <psychonate> s/htis/this
[07:21] <ToRTuReD_X> lol
[07:21] <ToRTuReD_X> same psychonate
[07:21] <ToRTuReD_X> i can't add folders
[07:21] <ToRTuReD_X> it locks up
[07:21] <Randall64> You just need a bigger filing cabinet for your folders.
[07:21] <psychonate> ah, I think my problem is a little different
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> o_0
[07:22] <drcode> any one know if I Want to add packgge to ubuntu live cd into the cd , is it possible?
[07:22] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> drcode,  not at this time - i dont think so.
[07:22] <ToRTuReD_X> that would require a burning wouldn't it?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> there are some other live cd's that can handle that  fairly easially (knoppix)
[07:22] <ToRTuReD_X> ah k
[07:23] <drcode> k
[07:23] <drcode> thanx
[07:23] <ToRTuReD_X> woot
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> not sure if you can remaaster the cd and put some debian packages on it or not with ubuntu yetl
[07:23] <ToRTuReD_X> nine inch nails - only
[07:23] <ToRTuReD_X> \m/
[07:23] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i know if i installed the drivers for my gfx card properly?
[07:24] <Randall64> tortured: glxgears is a simple test
[07:24] <Madpilot> ToRTuReD_X: glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[07:24] <gpd> 46572 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9314.400 FPS
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> play tuxracer :P
[07:25] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, hey, ok sudo apt-get install samba swat
[07:25] <Madpilot> install Scorched3d - it's a cool game anyway!
[07:25] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, then you'll need to edit /etc/inetd.conf
[07:25] <apprentice> i love u
[07:26] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, "echo "swat  stream tcp nowait.400  root /usr/bin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat" >> /etc/inetd.conf"
[07:26] <Echelon-H> hi
[07:26] <jasoncohen> nothingsometing, "sudo echo "swat  stream tcp nowait.400  root /usr/bin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat" >> /etc/inetd.conf"
[07:27] <chrishaum> #edubuntu
[07:27] <Forty|> anyone else getting a problem upgrading firefox?
[07:27] <timl> Forty|: check the topic
[07:27] <Forty|> hahahaha
[07:27] <Forty|> sorry about that
[07:28] <psychonate> why is my XMMS acting so strangely :(
[07:28] <Forty|> timl, backports in the sources list?
[07:28] <apprentice> try amarok
[07:28] <Randall64> psycho: It realized it's a bad clone of a bad program people stopped using years ago.
[07:29] <Randall64> juk seems nice at least
[07:29] <timl> Forty|: I have no idea, I've only read the topic :)
[07:29] <apprentice> actually i wish there was a foobar clone
[07:29] <Forty|> hahaha
[07:29] <Forty|> hmm
[07:29] <apprentice> foobar is like the best i wonder why no one has made a clone
[07:29] <psychonate> now, if I want to save a playlist, it has the default save at / and I hit "../" and it takes me to /share/video/Faccia a faccia (1967) XviD  ?! 0.o
[07:30] <apprentice> psychonate:  waht movie is that
[07:30] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i install a .tar.gz file?
[07:30] <psychonate> Randall64, unfortunately, I don't think Ubuntu has bmp plugins for flac, mpc, cue files, ape, and some other exotic formats
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> You dont :P yoiu install tyhe program IN the .tar.gz :P
[07:30] <ridejib> ToRTuReD_X: you need to unzip it first
[07:30] <psychonate> apprentice, spaghetti western film
[07:30] <ToRTuReD_X> yeh
[07:30] <ToRTuReD_X> then?
[07:30] <psychonate> (Face to Face)
[07:30] <ridejib> ToRTuReD_X: what type of files does it contain?
[07:31] <apprentice> cool. i dont really like westerns
[07:31] <psychonate> I like some.
[07:31] <Forty|> damn, whats the direcotry for hte source lists?
[07:31] <ToRTuReD_X> i'll tell you when i'm done
[07:31] <psychonate> Forty|, /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:31] <apprentice> the only western i like is back to the future 3
[07:31] <psychonate> rofl
[07:31] <apprentice> its pretty western
[07:32] <ridejib> first you gotta do gunzip file.tar.gz,  the tar -xvf file.tar
[07:32] <psychonate> Spaghetti Westerns are a little different in most cases from American Westerns
[07:32] <apprentice> maybe there better
[07:32] <psychonate> well, also depends on what american westerns you watched
[07:32] <apprentice> not many actually
[07:32] <Forty|> thanks psychonate
[07:32] <Forty|> i always forget apt
[07:32] <psychonate> Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch is A LOT different from say High Noon
[07:32] <Forty|> apprentice, damn good western to like
[07:33] <Forty|> psychonate, how about sundance kid?
[07:33] <Randall64> ride: tar xzvf might be a little easier ...
[07:33] <psychonate> Forty|, that's a pretty good one
[07:33] <ridejib> Randall64: this is true..thx
[07:33] <psychonate> Paul Newman is a monster :)
[07:34] <ridejib> While not a Western, has anyone seen The Boondock Saints?
[07:34] <psychonate> yes
[07:34] <psychonate> it's alright
[07:34] <ridejib> I love that movie
[07:34] <tim> boondock saints is such a good movie
[07:34] <tim> theres a sequel coming out
[07:34] <apprentice> i love the boondock saints
[07:34] <tim> "all saints day"
[07:34] <apprentice> its so cool
[07:34] <psychonate> I like the part when they shoot the cat heh
[07:34] <ridejib> Yeah, do you know when it is due out?
[07:34] <psychonate> but Pulp Fiction's scene when Marvin gets shot is better
[07:35] <psychonate> "Oh man, I think I shot Marvin in the face."
[07:35] <Forty|> anyone here know how to disable mplayer and use xine?
[07:35] <tim> agreed, both are insanely good movies
[07:35] <apprentice> lol that part is funny
[07:35] <ridejib> The Detective Greenly is a guy name Bob Marley, who happens to be a comedian. I went to see him Live and after the show asked when All Saints Day was coming out, and he seemed shocked I knew they were making it
[07:35] <apprentice> lol.
[07:36] <ridejib> ToRTuReD_X: any luck with that tar.gz?
[07:36] <apprentice> support panic?
[07:36] <Madpilot> nobody's breaking anything in their installs right at this moment, I guess ;)
[07:36] <psychonate> well, I still don't know why / is not the default directory when I open a terminal or roxfiler
[07:36] <psychonate> seems a bit strange
[07:36] <arbir> has to now sleep
[07:37] <ridejib> how do you make irc do something like this "* gpd is in shock that # is not in frenzy of support panic!"
[07:37] <thoreauputic> psychonate: the usual default would be your home dir  /home/username/
[07:37] <apprentice> i am i just calmed down
[07:38] <thoreauputic> ride type  /me <does something or says something>
[07:38] <ridejib> thoreauputic: thanks
[07:38] <ubuntu> how do you install AIM?
[07:38] <shadeland> man
[07:38] <shadeland> that was fun
[07:38] <shadeland> just got the ATI drivers installed
[07:39] <pablo928> Hi everyone. How do it set my swap-file size? Seems in the install it was set to 0MB.
[07:39] <Madpilot> ubuntu: GAIM is installed by default, I think
[07:39] <ridejib> pablo928: have you already partitioned your entire hard drive?
[07:39] <mike> anybody know when ubuntu ...6(?) is coming out?
[07:40] <ridejib> mike: Breezy (5.10 i think) is due out in December
[07:40] <Madpilot> October for Breezy, I thought
[07:40] <psychonate> thoreauputic, I know, but it's not
[07:40] <psychonate> thoreauputic, the default changes
[07:40] <psychonate> I have no idea why.
[07:40] <ridejib> Madpilot: hmm, maybe you are correct. I might be thinking of something else
[07:41] <thoreauputic> psychonate: it's a conspiracy!
[07:41] <psychonate> I just know that it gets changed periodically to a directory that I was in in rox or in a terminal
[07:41] <dooonz> guys my firefox is buggering up
[07:41] <dooonz> like all the time
[07:41] <psychonate> I don't know why or how
[07:41] <pablo928> ridejib-yep, two partitions, Fat32 for WinXp and ext3 for Ubuntu.
[07:41] <ridejib> doonz: have you sprayed it with Raid(TM)?
[07:41] <dooonz> yeah
[07:41] <thoreauputic> dooonz: could you be a little more vague?
[07:42] <Madpilot> dooonz: read the topic?
[07:42] <dooonz> hehehe
[07:42] <ridejib> Doonz: hmm.. weird. that usually solves my problems
[07:42] <dooonz> sorry
[07:42] <dooonz> let me read the topic
[07:42] <dooonz> ok read it
[07:42] <Randall64> ridejib: So you're saying the anal rape doesn't bother you, just insects?
[07:43] <ridejib> pablo928: you aren't going to be able to create swap space without re-partitioning at least one of those partitions. Have you already installed both operating systems?
[07:43] <dooonz> is it on the ubuntuguide.org site a walkthrough howto do it?
[07:43] <Madpilot> Randall64: language...
[07:43] <pablo928> ridejib- isn't there a way to manually set the swap-file size?
[07:43] <Randall64> Well, you _can_ make a swapfile.
[07:43] <Randall64> It's not just recommended.
[07:44] <Randall64> s/not just/just not/
[07:44] <Randall64> man mkswap
[07:44] <pablo928> Any idea why it would set to 0MB by default in install?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> a swap FILE is different then a swap partition.
[07:44] <dooonz> how do i disable backports?
[07:44] <Randall64> pablo: Did you forget to create a swap partition in the installer?
[07:45] <Randall64> _Then_ what does the swap partition do?
[07:45] <ridejib> Randall64: I'm confused what the buttlove comment was in regards to? Although humoress, I'm still confused
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> you can use a swap file instead of a swap parttion.. or use a combo of the 2.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> ridejib: FF "buggering up"
[07:46] <cs378> hi, i installed kubuntu, don kinda like kde, cuz of some error, can i start a new installation with ubuntu? (im at dual boot - dont wanna mess up my windows xp)
[07:46] <ridejib> hmm.. i must not be familiar with that induendo
[07:46] <ridejib> or however you spell it
[07:46] <pablo928> Dr_Willis- So how do I set a swapfile?
[07:46] <Randall64> It's british slang.
[07:46] <thoreauputic> ridejib:  dict bugger :) Or look in a web dictionary
[07:47] <Randall64> pablo: man mkswap, search for dd
[07:47] <ridejib> Randall64: ah, that would be why..
[07:47] <ridejib> thoreauputic: thx
[07:47] <Randall64> I just hate repeating myself.
[07:47] <thoreauputic> ridejib: buggery is more or less "sodomy"
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> theres several howtos that tell the exact steps to make a swap file its fairly trivial. You are saying you made NO swap partition then?
[07:47] <cs378> anyone?
[07:47] <ridejib> thoreauputic: hmm. quite interesting. lol
[07:48] <Madpilot> hmmmm... is anyone else having trouble getting information from Ubuntu's little Dictionary app?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> ridejib: there used to be a law that used the phrase " the abominable sin of buggery"
[07:48] <thoreauputic> ;)
[07:48] <mrnice> hi all
[07:48] <Randall64> Now it's just good clean fun.
[07:48] <ridejib> cs378: yes. Just install on the partition you set up for kubuntu
[07:48] <mrnice> can I install RPM?
[07:48] <mrnice> in ubuntu ?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Ewww....
[07:48] <ridejib> thoreauputic: haha that is quite entertaining
[07:49] <frank> short answer, no
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> you mean install AN rpm?
[07:49] <poningru> mrnice: use alien
[07:49] <mrnice> yes
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Maddy: yes, change the url to test.dict.org
[07:49] <mrnice> I Have download rpm pkg
[07:49] <poningru> !alien
[07:49] <Randall64> mrnice: no, but you can alien it if desperation drives you to madness
[07:49] <levander> Nobody here knows how to configure udftools do they?
[07:49] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:49] <frank> mrnice: use deb instead
[07:49] <cs378> ridejib: so its a fresh new installation n it will config the grab thing as well right,(i am a newbie)
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: sorry tab complete error ^^^
[07:49] <poningru> guys its not always easy to use debs because people dont provide .debs
[07:49] <mrnice> I can't find it as deb
[07:49] <ridejib> frank: some software is only released in rpm format
[07:49] <mrnice> only rpm
[07:49] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: OK, test.dict.org workd, thanks.
[07:50] <dooonz> how do i disable backports?
[07:50] <Randall64> mrnice: What software are you dealing with?
[07:50] <mrnice> djplay
[07:50] <Amaranth> poningru: are you talking about autopackage?
[07:50] <levander> !udftools
[07:50] <ubotu> levander: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:50] <ridejib> mrnice: use "alien filename"
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: the dict.org URL is going through some kind of existential crisis ;-)
[07:50] <mrnice> in sourceforge
[07:50] <Mobus> but what's wrong with the GUN ./compile && make && make instasll eh?
[07:50] <Mobus> GNU*
[07:50] <frank> ridejib: some... yes but if that happens, I'd say you're better off compiling it yourself
[07:50] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: I was afraid it was my Firestarter install buggering up the connection
[07:50] <ridejib> mrnice: alien will convert the rpm to a .deb. then you can use sudo dpkg
[07:50] <mrnice> thanx alot
[07:50] <mrnice> I Will check it out
[07:50] <ridejib> !alien
[07:51] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[07:51] <Randall64> !debian
[07:51] <ubotu> debian is, like, The Rock upon which Ubuntu is founded; see http://www.debian.org http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html#contents Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9
[07:51] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: nah, just the dict people changing stuff without telling anyone
[07:51] <poningru> hahaha
[07:51] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: wonderful... </sarcasm>
[07:51] <levander> what's the command to tech ubotu a word?
[07:51] <poningru> imagine naming a distro after you gf
[07:51] <ridejib> poningru: it would be called "satan"
[07:51] <dooonz> !porno
[07:51] <ubotu> Wish i knew, dooonz
[07:51] <Amaranth> dooonz: ...
[07:51] <ridejib> hahah doonz
[07:52] <poningru> doonz dont teach it shit like that
[07:52] <dooonz> aorry
[07:52] <thoreauputic> levander: ubotu <something> is <something else>
[07:52] <Madpilot> levander: "ubotu <word> is <foo>"  - but do it in /msg
[07:52] <Madpilot> !list
[07:52] <ubotu> hmm... list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuFactoids
[07:52] <dooonz> it didnt learn anythign anyhow
[07:52] <poningru> nice infobot
[07:52] <Amaranth> don't do it in msg, it's harder to keep the junk out when i can't see it being set :)
[07:53] <Madpilot> "!list" has a URL with all of ubotu's commands - it's searchable
[07:53] <Amaranth> what the topic meant about what?
[07:53] <dooonz> Firefox problems? Disable backports & uninstall firefox before updating mozilla-firefoxok
[07:53] <ToRTuReD_X> haha!!
[07:53] <ridejib> ubotu is the win
[07:53] <ubotu> ridejib: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:53] <ToRTuReD_X> got gnome baker working :D
[07:53] <thoreauputic> dooonz: the topic only applies if you used backports and have their version of FF
[07:53] <Madpilot> !good bot
[07:53] <ubotu> thanks madpilot :)
[07:53] <ridejib> haha, sure ubotu. I think you are swell.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> !good boot
[07:53] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Are you smoking crack?
[07:53] <dooonz> hmm
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:54] <dooonz> i dont think so
[07:54] <dooonz> just used what came with ubuntu
[07:54] <Madpilot> only one "o" in bot...
[07:54] <helloyo> are there any common reasons why games don't work in cedega, the channel is dead, and i'm trying to get sim city 3000 working
[07:54] <dooonz> but it been closing when ever and when i try clicking on a d/l link nothing happens
[07:54] <gpd> !list
[07:54] <ubotu> I guess list is at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuFactoids
[07:54] <gpd> ubotu: list
[07:54] <bur[n] er> helloyo: get any errors?
[07:55] <helloyo> bur[n] er, nope, just nothing happens when i try to run the game (it installed though)
[07:55] <dooonz> im using version 1.0.2 if that helps
[07:55] <thoreauputic> gpd: it won't flood the channel with a long list - use /msg ubotu list
[07:55] <ridejib> good night all
[07:55] <thoreauputic> dooonz: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:55] <ridejib> happy -debuggering
[07:55] <ridejib> lol
[07:55] <pablo928> Well, I guess I did it now. used "mkswap /dev/hda2" and now can't open any apps.
[07:55] <bur[n] er> helloyo: in that case, i dunno
[07:56] <dooonz> nothing thoreauputic
[07:56] <thoreauputic> dooonz: ?
[07:56] <frank> pablo928: lol
[07:56] <poningru> use dp people
[07:56] <poningru> seriously if microsoft were incharge of firefox
[07:57] <poningru> dp would be out the door in this condition
[07:57] <gpd> thoreauputic: is ubotu supybot?
[07:57] <dooonz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/815
[07:57] <frank> pablo928:  was that the right partition?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> dooonz: you mean it doesn't tell you anything needs upgrading? In that case something is wrong
[07:57] <pablo928> frank-Is tat kinda like reformattin my hd drive?
[07:57] <thoreauputic> gpd: ubotu is a blootbot
[07:57] <GNULinuxer> Hi jino
[07:57] <poningru> pablo928: what are you trying to do?
[07:57] <jino> hey
[07:57] <frank> pablo928:  well its formating part of it. whatever /hda2 was
[07:57] <jino> i\\\wats up
[07:58] <thoreauputic> dooonz: the latest FF in the repos is 1.0.6 now
[07:58] <jino> i have a problem
[07:58] <dooonz> hmm
[07:58] <dooonz> what do i do
[07:58] <GNULinuxer> lo NigelS
[07:58] <jino> GNULinuxer, i bought a new laptop
[07:58] <pablo928> frank-I thought it was the right partition. I just wanted to sepup a swapfile  for my memory.
[07:58] <thoreauputic> dooonz: do you have a standard /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:58] <jino> and installed ubuntu
[07:58] <GNULinuxer> lo feahfuogbcbosw
[07:58] <jino> it doestnt play mp3 and vidieo
[07:59] <thoreauputic> dooonz: and have you updated or reloaded synaptic?
[07:59] <poningru> !restricted formats
[07:59] <ubotu> I guess restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:59] <feahfuogbcbosw> GNULinuxer: I have to use this because some jackass keeps taking my real nick >:(
[07:59] <dooonz> yeah
[07:59] <frank> pablo928: oh you didn't have a swap file before?
[07:59] <GNULinuxer> feahfuogbcbosw: i see :)
[07:59] <dooonz> it shows up there
[07:59] <poningru> jino: follow whats written on that link
[07:59] <dooonz> just install it?
[07:59] <poningru> jino: let us know if you run into trouble
[07:59] <frank> pablo928: you probably formated your linux partition. assuming that is what was in /dev/hda2
[07:59] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: are you registered?
[07:59] <Agrajag> thoreauputic: yes
[08:00] <Agrajag> thus I can ghost him and take it back
[08:00] <pablo928> frank: for some reason in the install ther wasn't a swapfile setup.
[08:00] <jino> it says mp3 decoder is not present
[08:00] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: then do /msg nickserv ghost agrajag <password> if someone steals your nick
[08:00] <frank> pablo928: if you partition manually you have to set one up yourself as /dev/hda3 or something
[08:00] <Agrajag> yeah... I just said that
[08:00] <poningru> ubotu: tell jino about !codecs
[08:00] <poningru> sigh
[08:00] <jino> yup
[08:00] <poningru> ubotu: tell jino about codecs
[08:01] <Agrajag> it's still damn annoying
[08:01] <dooonz> !codecs
[08:01] <poningru> jino: did you get that?
[08:01] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: ah sorry - slow typist ;)
[08:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:01] <Agrajag> hah
[08:01] <pablo928> well, back to reloading Ubuntu. I'm glad this is my backup box.
[08:01] <frank> pablo928: I'm glad about that too!
[08:02] <frank> pablo928: when you play with partitions, make sure you know what you're doing
[08:02] <pablo928>  frank:and my main box does have a swap file!
[08:02] <jino> i got da link
[08:02] <poningru> cool
[08:02] <poningru> let me know if you run into any trouble
[08:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> how do i display my comp infor on the desktop? cpu, ram, etc
[08:03] <MrGardenHoseMan> info*
[08:03] <pablo928>  frank:I'm just surprized that the apps I have open are still functioning.
[08:03] <frank> pablo928: they are already in memory
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> MrGardenHoseMan,  tons of little system monitors out there. :P
[08:03] <Jet2k5> does anyone know the proper way to get rid of KDE afte I've downloaded throught apt-get?
[08:03] <frank> pablo928: your living in a figment of your computers imagination!
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> MrGardenHoseMan,  i think a nice one is called gkrellm or somthing like that.
[08:04] <thoreauputic> Jet2k5: removing libqt* should pretty much wipe KDE ;)
[08:04] <pablo928>  frank: in other word, I no longer have a OS?
[08:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[08:05] <adapter> what codecs are needed for .wmv to work?
[08:05] <poningru> pablo928: whats the prob exactly I havent followed your convo?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: gkrellm is one example
[08:05] <frank> pablo928: not in hda2 for sure. was there a windows in hda1? it wont boot like this but its still there
[08:05] <poningru> adapter: w32codecs
[08:05] <adapter> hmm thought I got it already
[08:05] <dooonz> yay fixdd
[08:05] <poningru> ubotu: tell adapter about codecs
[08:06] <poningru> adapter: read through that see if there is something else
[08:06] <pablo928> frank- I have WinXP on another partition. I shouldn't have destroyed my MBR.
[08:07] <frank> pablo928: the installer will have installed grub on it and grub will not work until you install ubuntu again
[08:07] <adapter> sudo apt-get install w32codecs is installed already
[08:07] <adapter> are there any other ones?
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> if I have a pentium 4 is it better for me to install mplayer-386 or mplayer-586? there isnt a 686
[08:07] <pablo928> frank: I'm going to reboot now and see what haPPENS.
[08:07] <thoreauputic> ColonelKernel: 586
[08:07] <frank> windows wont load now but it will after you install again
[08:08] <pablo928> frank: oK i'LL GIVE IT A TRY.  sEE YOU.
[08:08] <ColonelKernel> thankyou
[08:08] <adapter> should I not use totem player maybe?
[08:08] <jino> poningru, i have added hpary hedge binary repositary
[08:08] <gpd> so I'm trying to load this djplay thing from ^^ but it is failing to find libjack.so.0... I could install all the libjack things from apt-cache search but how do I find that file int he apt repositories? not dpkg -S for sure
[08:08] <thoreauputic> ColonelKernel: fun nick BTW :)
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> thanks
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> i like to play w kernels
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> Linux p4ht 2.6.12-custom #1 SMP Mon Jul 25 22:45:04 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:09] <Randall64> gpd: apt-file, works like apt-cache
[08:09] <poningru> jino: ?
[08:09] <ColonelKernel> just a shame you cant use vanilla kernels with ubuntu
[08:09] <poningru> jino: sorry what were you trying to do again?
[08:10] <levander> lsmod | grep udf
[08:10] <thoreauputic> ColonelKernel: ex Slacker?
[08:10] <ColonelKernel> ex fedora/deb/gentoo
[08:10] <thoreauputic> ah
[08:10] <poningru> jino: were you trying to play mp3 and dvd?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> surely you can't use vanilla kernels with fedora?
[08:10] <jino> poningru, mp3
[08:11] <jino> and dvd too
[08:11] <Randall64> thore: why not?
[08:11] <jino> i have a lot of problems
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> i used fedora on this box before I switched to ubuntu, there is a nutty op in #fedora who makes the experience unpleasant, so I switched distros
[08:11] <poningru> jino: ok what did you do exactly?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> ColonelKernel: heheh
[08:11] <jino> i went to repositiories in synaptic
[08:11] <hyphenated> ColonelKernel: heh, what a great reason to switch distros
[08:11] <poningru> jino: first thing you should ahve done is added the extra repositoreis
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> you can use vanilla kernels on fedora no prob;
[08:11] <poningru> right
[08:11] <pablo928> frank: You were right. Grub is gone.
[08:11] <jino> and added hoary hedge
[08:11] <jino> where do i do that
[08:11] <ColonelKernel> hyphenated, he did me a favor, im much happier with ubuntu
[08:12] <pablo928> I' had to switch boxes.
[08:12] <poningru> jino: you were on the right path
[08:12] <jino> okie
[08:12] <jino> so
[08:12] <gpd> Randall64: apt-file search  libjack.so.0 gives nothing... some testing reveals it doesn't find exisitng files?
[08:12] <jino> how do i move
[08:12] <ColonelKernel> I would thank the guy but ive been banned in #fedora since july 8 for no reason
[08:12] <thoreauputic> !find libjack.so.0
[08:13] <thoreauputic> hmm
[08:13] <jino> poningru, i have installed a few media players aswell
[08:13] <jino> but no use
[08:13] <thoreauputic> !find libjack
[08:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libjack' (4 shown): libjack0.80.0-0 ;; libjack0.80.0-dev ;; libjackasyn-dev ;; libjackasyn0.
[08:14] <gpd> thoreauputic: that is apt-cache search libjack
[08:14] <poningru> jino: hold on
[08:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libjack.so.0' returned no results.
[08:14] <jino> okie
[08:14] <poningru> give me couple of sec
[08:14] <jino> okie
[08:14] <thoreauputic> gpd: yes, you're right
[08:14] <ColonelKernel> i checked out deb testing but it doesnt use gnome 2.10 OR xorg
[08:14] <gpd> thoreauputic: that is easy... but finding a specific file in the repository i have not achieved
[08:14] <ColonelKernel> I wasnt very happy with that
[08:14] <miko> lg ngapain?
[08:15] <thoreauputic> gpd: in theory apt-file should do it if it exists... puzzling
[08:15] <gpd> thoreauputic: does apt-file require the full path?
[08:15] <Randall64> gpd: Did you apt-file update?
[08:15] <gpd> Randall64: no... i'll try
[08:15] <Randall64> heh
[08:15] <kozlyk> what is libjack for?
[08:15] <thoreauputic> gpd: I don't think so
[08:16] <poningru> jino back
[08:16] <Randall64> gpd: It's like apt-cache in that it relies on having actual data to search ;)
[08:16] <gpd> thoreauputic: Randall64 I assumed it was using the apt-get database
[08:16] <Randall64> gpd: I probably assumed that too.
[08:16] <poningru> ok so you added universe and multiverse right?
[08:16] <gpd> Randall64: thoreauputic seems to be downloading Contents-xxx.gz interesting...
[08:17] <jino> i din add multivers
[08:17] <Randall64> Just who is he talking to?
[08:17] <jino> i have installed gstream now
[08:17] <jino> from package manager
[08:17] <jino> will that do?
[08:17] <airmikey_> anyone here get mplayer to play movies on laptop ?
[08:17] <ricosuave17> bob2: what resolution do u use?
[08:18] <jino> poningru, should i add multiverse too
[08:18] <adapter> hmm mplayer won't even work
[08:18] <adapter> it just freezes up
[08:18] <poningru> jino: yes
[08:18] <jino> okie
[08:18] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: do a /whois bob2 - I'd say he's away >> [bob2]  is away (lunch)
[08:18] <Randall64> adapter: What's the last line in your terminal?
[08:19] <adapter> I wasn't loading it from there
[08:19] <poningru> jino: actually for mp3 you shouldnt need the multiverse
[08:19] <poningru> gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:19] <poningru> install that package
[08:19] <ricosuave17> weird its 2:19 am for me
[08:19] <adapter> it is already
[08:19] <adapter> and so are all the codecs
[08:19] <adapter> yet it won't play a .wmv
[08:20] <ToRTuReD_X> i got a q
[08:20] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: funny eh? There's a world out there, mate
[08:20] <ToRTuReD_X> is there any software to hook up mp3 players in ubuntu
[08:20] <Randall64> adapter: What errors are you getting?
[08:20] <ToRTuReD_X> like a creative audio mp3 player
[08:20] <jino> poningru, i have installed it
[08:20] <ricosuave17> thoreauputic:  u british
[08:20] <jino> should i restart
[08:20] <adapter> I'm not seeing any errors
[08:20] <gpd> does bob2 get paid for this?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: nope
[08:20] <poningru> jino: no need
[08:21] <jino> wat shall i do
[08:21] <jino> killall?
[08:21] <poningru> try playing an mp3 player
[08:21] <jino> okie
[08:21] <ricosuave17> american
[08:21] <ricosuave17> ?
[08:21] <cafuego> gpd: Only in karma
[08:21] <Randall64> adapter: wow, mplayer is insanely verbose most of the time
[08:21] <bob2> gpd: no
[08:21] <poningru> jino restart the music player if its already open
[08:21] <bob2> I get anti-paid by not doing real work
[08:22] <adapter> a .mpg just froze it too
[08:22] <gpd> bob2: hard luck :(
[08:22] <adapter> but .mpg will work fine in totem
[08:22] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: erm - right click my name in xchat and look at the country...
[08:22] <ricosuave17> hey bob2 did u enjoy ur lunch
[08:22] <ricosuave17> COOL I LOVE AUSSIE
[08:22] <jino> poningru,  my previous player is open
[08:22] <Randall64> I just know this hours-long resize2fs is going to blow away all my data.
[08:22] <jino> and it has hanged
[08:22] <jino> how do i close it
[08:22] <poningru> jino: force kill
[08:23] <poningru> jino: go to application
[08:23] <poningru> system
[08:23] <cafuego> jino: "hung" - "hanged" is with a rope ;-)
[08:23] <jino> thanx
[08:23] <poningru> sytem tools I mean
[08:23] <poningru> and then click on system monitor
[08:23] <ToRTuReD_X> well
[08:23] <poningru> find your player
[08:23] <adapter> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs is all I need right?
[08:23] <bob2> ricosuave17: yes, thanks
[08:23] <bob2> poningru: you really don't
[08:23] <ToRTuReD_X> still gotta install java for mozilla when i get back
[08:23] <poningru> bob2: ?
[08:23] <ricosuave17> bob2: were in the world r u
[08:24] <bob2> ricosuave17: australia
[08:24] <poningru> if its hanged then it must be killed
[08:24] <jino> poningru,  how
[08:24] <ricosuave17> cool is it 2 pm for u
[08:24] <Randall64> If it's hanged, it's surely dead already.
[08:24] <bob2> ricosuave17: why?
[08:24] <bob2> if you have ubuntu questions, ask them in the channel
[08:24] <cafuego> Randall64: might still be twitching
[08:24] <cafuego> ricosuave17: No, bob2 is not in perth.
[08:24] <Randall64> cafuego: That's hardly a threat to anyone though.
[08:24] <gpd> thoreauputic: Randall64 some interesting things emerge... alien ignores obvious dependency for libjack.so.0... ubuntu does not have said file anywhere... apt-file is useful but needs to be updated independently from apt-get... libjack0.80.0 is clearly far newer than djplay... djplay is probably not worth installing ;)
[08:24] <poningru> jino: find your music player
[08:24] <adapter> god damn I wish this would work
[08:25] <adapter> I would think it would
[08:25] <jino> xmmx
[08:25] <light_punch2> is gcc in the ubuntu cd? if not, distrowatch should not include it there.
[08:25] <adapter> if other files types play
[08:25] <jino> xmms i mean
[08:25] <cafuego> Randall64: it might lose bowel control at someone ;-)
[08:25] <Randall64> Isn't libjack that thing that replaced that other thing?
[08:25] <ricosuave17> oh ok i know a goth girl from perth
[08:25] <bob2> ricosuave17: ah, misinterprted you, sorry.  it's 1624
[08:25] <Randall64> Maybe ubuntu still has that other thing.
[08:25] <Randall64> Better alien libjack!
[08:26] <poningru> jino: did you shut it down?
[08:26] <jino> no
[08:26] <poningru> also to play music I would recomend rythmbox
[08:26] <poningru> did you find xmms?
[08:26] <jino> where do i
[08:26] <ricosuave17> bob2: im curious about ur age just so i know if u go to school or not
[08:26] <poningru> in system tools
[08:26] <Randall64> You want juk!
[08:26] <poningru> in system monitor
[08:26] <bob2> ricosuave17: 22, no I'm not currently at school
[08:26] <joe_1234> help allchanl
[08:26] <Randall64> What's your name, girl, what's your sign?
[08:26] <poningru> jino: click on application
[08:27] <poningru> click on system tools
[08:27] <poningru> click on system monitor
[08:27] <thoreauputic> light_punch2:  apt-cache policy build-essential ; apt-cache show build-essential
[08:27] <poningru> and find xmms
[08:27] <bob2> joe_1234: you don't seem to have asked a question yet
[08:27] <thoreauputic> light_punch2: it's on the cd
[08:27] <ricosuave17> bob2: do u know this school helena college
[08:27] <bob2> ricosuave17: n
[08:27] <bob2> o
[08:27] <cafuego> bob2: it's to do with stopping a time reversal accident
[08:28] <jino> yup it is done
[08:28] <bob2> haha
[08:28] <gpd> bob2: in case you don't know 'school' in the USA means anything from kindergarten to PhD...
[08:28] <bob2> gpd: yeah, I gathered that
[08:28] <poningru> jino: now open up rythmbox
[08:28] <adapter> oh well until I figure this out it's all .mpegs for me :P
[08:28] <cafuego> ricosuave17: There are tends of thousands of schools in asutralia. Australia is larger than the US.
[08:28] <Randall64> And a "rubber" outside the US can be an eraser.
[08:28] <gpd> in the UK school stops at 16...so the question is fairly insulting... probably the same in Oz...
[08:28] <ricosuave17> i know but this school is in perth
[08:29] <hyphenated> gpd: and there's very little difference in content ;-)
[08:29] <cafuego> ricosuave17: It's anot  ahappy small village where everyone knows everyone
[08:29] <jino> i din install rythmbox
[08:29] <gpd> I am british but I live in LA...
[08:29] <ricosuave17> dude i know
[08:29] <poningru> jino: just use your player then
[08:29] <poningru> its no big deal
[08:29] <ricosuave17> gpd: cool im going to become a british citizen
[08:29] <bob2> ricosuave17: perth's a long way from here
[08:29] <poningru> but I like rythmbox
[08:29] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: perth is a fair sized city
[08:29] <cafuego> though it on occasion seems to be, in melbourne :-/
[08:29] <poningru> its each persons choice
[08:29] <ToRTuReD_X> gDesklets are the same as wiki's in windows rights?
[08:29] <jino> but it doesnt work
[08:29] <poningru> anyway try playing an mp3 song
[08:29] <jino> i tried
[08:29] <poningru> ?
[08:29] <cafuego> perth is nice, /me was there last weekend
[08:30] <kozlyk> does ubuntu and gnome let me know when new updates are available?
[08:30] <jino> my player
[08:30] <poningru> oh
[08:30] <ToRTuReD_X> those things that sit on your desktop with hard drive info speed etc
[08:30] <bob2> kozlyk: yes
[08:30] <poningru> hehe oops
[08:30] <ricosuave17> it should
[08:30] <poningru> gstream-mad is for rythmbox only
[08:30] <poningru> install w32codecs
[08:30] <cafuego> Perth has ~ 1 million inhabitants
[08:30] <poningru> and gstreamer0.8-plugins
[08:31] <pablo928>  bob2- I'm doing a reinstall on my backup box. If I upgrade to Breezy will it at least boot?
[08:31] <jino> i have installed that
[08:31] <kozlyk> how does one go about force quitting a stalled app.  my mplayer is sitting pretty dead right now...
[08:31] <poningru> jino: both of them?
[08:31] <poningru> hmm weird
[08:31] <jino> nope
[08:31] <jino> win32 codecs
[08:31] <cafuego> kozlyk: terminal, ps x, find the PID, kill -9 <pid>
[08:31] <bob2> pablo928: X won't start
[08:31] <Randall64> kozlyk: ctrl-c`
[08:31] <poningru> yeah install gstreamer0.8-plugins as well
[08:32] <shawarma> kozlyk: If you're running gnome, clicking the close-button on the window usually does the trick. If the app doesn't die properly a popup appears asking if you want to have it killed.
[08:32] <pablo928>  bob2- still won't? that's why I had to do a reinstall about 2 weeks ago.
[08:32] <poningru> shadeland: that doesnt work all the time
[08:32] <jino> done
[08:32] <poningru> atleast for me
[08:32] <bob2> pablo928: X is being completly re-done
[08:32] <poningru> jino: make sure to reastart xmms
[08:32] <bob2> it's a mammoth task
[08:32] <jino> okie
[08:32] <nJess> how do i disable the scrolling edges of my laptop trackpad?
[08:33] <kozlyk> shawarma:  I have hit the close button a few times, and the mplayer sits there with a nice blue screen.  I think i was trying to see if my w32codecs worked properly :)
[08:33] <poningru> jino: now play mp3