[12:06] <Trewas> and I haven't even started trying to see which kind of stuff is held in binary form in the programs memory, that too would be easy because the source is there for anyone to see...
[12:09] <mooey> i'm trying to triage a bug but i'm a little confused about translations. do the translations for a package (eg: gnome-control-center) reside in that package, or language-pack-gnome-xx?
[12:09] <mooey> are all ubuntu strings translated with rosetta, or just the ones in products registered on launchpad?
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88173 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88120)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88173
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88174 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[feisty]  A "plug" icon is displayed instead of battery and I get no charging/discharging information, while hal gives it correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88174
[12:13] <mdz> gar, the python-apt breakage took out update-manager, so folks won't be able to install the fix
[12:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88175 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed - syslog and partman" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88175
[12:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88176 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88114)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88176
[12:19] <pochu> mooey: I think just the packages in main
[12:20] <pochu> and I think the translation for those packages in main are in language-pack...
[12:21] <mooey> thanks
[12:25] <seb128> mdz: yeah, what I said before :/ People using feisty should be able to use synaptic though
[12:27] <mooey> are ubuntu documentation bugs handled in any specific package?
[12:27] <seb128> what documentation?
[12:29] <mooey> seb128, the documentation in system -> help & support
[12:29] <seb128> there is lot of documentation there
[12:29] <seb128> which part?
[12:31] <mooey> actually, i'm not sure
[12:31] <mooey> bug 87472
[12:31] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 87472 in Ubuntu "Using chmod 400 ~/.recently-used does not work for the .xbel file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87472
[12:32] <mooey> i can't find the documentation he is talking about in fiesty
[12:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88177 in update-notifier (main) "apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88177
[12:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88178 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88178
[12:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88179 in scim (main) "[apport]  scim-launcher crashed with SIGSEGV in QTextCodec::fromUnicode()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88179
[12:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88180 in emacs-snapshot (universe) "Missing dependency on w3m-el and quack-el" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88180
[12:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88181 in update-manager (main) "update manager bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88181
[12:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88182 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88182
[12:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88183 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88183
[12:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88184 in whereami (universe) "Please sync whereami (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88184
[12:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88185 in audacity (universe) "[apport]  audacity crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88185
[12:34] <seb128> mooey: probably coming from the Ubuntu User Guide, ubuntu-docs package
[12:34] <mooey> thats what i thought, thanks
[12:34] <seb128> np
[12:37] <pochu> seb128, bdmurray ajmitch sfllaw slomo: could you join #ubuntu-meeting and help me (if you think you should) to become an ubuntumember? :) thanks anyway
[12:39] <seb128> pochu: are they talking about you atm?
[12:39] <pochu> seb128: I'm the next :)
[12:39] <seb128> k
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88186 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88186
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88188 in adept (main) "Update for 02/26/07 error (adept)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88188
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88189 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88189
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88190 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88190
[12:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88191 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88191
[12:47] <pochu> seb128: on the air :)
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88192 in update-notifier (main) "just upgraded the packages and tried to install new applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88192
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88193 in gnome-power-manager (main) "power button brings the shutdown menu twice." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88193
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88194 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88194
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88195 in software-properties (main) "[apport]  software-properties-gtk crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88195
[12:54] <pochu> seb128: thanks for your presence :)
[12:54] <seb128> np
[12:54] <seb128> thank you for the bug triage work ;)
[12:54] <pochu> :)
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88196 in update-notifier (main) "i reciving a lot of mails " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88196
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88197 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88197
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88198 in update-manager (main) "update manager crashed (dup-of: 88114)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88198
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88200 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "symlink on desktop problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88200
[01:01] <tokj> pochu: congrats! we came from #ubuntu-it but we were to late :P
[01:02] <pochu> tokj: hehe, thanks :)
[01:02] <pochu> tokj: now we should mark as duplicates all those update-manager bugs :)
[01:02] <pochu> seb128: are you doing it?
[01:02] <seb128> I did some of them
[01:02] <seb128> other people are faster though
[01:03] <seb128> time they are listed on IRC and they are already closed :p
[01:03] <pochu> hehe
[01:05] <gnomefreak> update-notifier seems borked
[01:05] <gnomefreak> is that known?
[01:06] <cowbud> have any of you guys tried the Split Browser add on for firefox. It is basically split window which makes looking at duplicate bugs and comparing easy as can be!
[01:07] <gnomefreak> got a link?
[01:07] <cowbud> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4287/
[01:07] <cowbud> google does
[01:08] <pochu> gnomefreak: yeah, and I think that has already been fixed
[01:08] <mdz> gnomefreak: yes (as you can see by the stream of duplicates)
[01:08] <pochu> gnomefreak: but if people doesn't update... :)
[01:08] <pochu> hehe
[01:08] <gnomefreak> pochu: it just crashed again for 3rd time today
[01:08] <pochu> gnomefreak: lol
[01:08] <gnomefreak> and i just got done doing update
[01:09] <mdz> it will crash every time it is run until the fix is installed, which must be done with apt-get
[01:09] <mdz> as I described in bug 88134
[01:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88134 in python-apt "Package is empty except for documentation" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88134
[01:09] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:09] <gnomefreak> oh no
[01:09] <seb128> or synaptic
[01:09] <mdz> oh, good point
[01:09] <gnomefreak> i used smart
[01:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88201 in gnome-games (main) "aisleriot crashes by double-clicking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88201
[01:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88202 in update-notifier (main) "update notifier keeps crashing" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88202
[01:09] <pochu> or aptitude? :)
[01:10] <mdz> yes, I mentioned that in the bug as well
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88199 in firefox (main) "changes in pkg-config firefox-plugin --cflags cause gcj-4.1 build failure" [High,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88199
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88203 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88203
[01:12] <mdz> the fixed python-apt should enter the archive in the next 15-20 minutes, after which the flood should diminish
[01:19] <mooey> sometimes i'm uncertain on what is actually considered a bug. should i file bug 83706 against the correct xorg package or ask the reporter to submit a support request?
[01:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 83706 in Ubuntu "The video dual head on VGA port not work in notebook sony vaio" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/83706
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88209 in gnome-blog (universe) "[apport]  blog_applet.py crashed with AttributeError in _onGConfChange()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88209
[01:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88205 in totem (main) "totem crashes when trying to play mp3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88205
[01:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88210 in apache2 (main) "Apache2 package requires apache to be running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88210
[01:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88211 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88211
[01:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88212 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88212
[01:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88213 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "Feisty Herd 4 does not mount encrypted partition " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88213
[01:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88214 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88214
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88216 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88216
[01:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88217 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88217
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88204 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed on start (dup-of: 88114)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88204
[01:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88207 in tmview (universe) "Please sync tmview (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88207
[01:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88215 in Ubuntu "Firefox locks up my computer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88215
[01:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88218 in bug-buddy (main) "[apport]  bug-buddy crashed with SIGSEGV in glade_xml_get_widget()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88218
[01:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88222 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88222
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88219 in Ubuntu "lilo won't add the new kernel 2.6.20" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88219
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88220 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88220
[01:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88221 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88221
[01:55] <tokj> ryanakca: seems you have a problematic connection :P
[01:55] <ryanakca> tokj: no... Beryl keeps on freezing my desktop... power switch is my only option
[01:56] <tokj> ah
[01:56] <tokj> this isn't a good thing
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88223 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88223
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88224 in Ubuntu "No driver for HP Color LaserJet 2600n in Feisty Flight 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88224
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88225 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88225
[02:02] <tokj> ryanakca: i don't think is beryl though. i experienced several freezes in the past 3 days, and beryl was disabled
[02:02] <ryanakca> tokj: hmm... feisty never froze for me untill I today (when I started using beryl)
[02:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88226 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88226
[02:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88227 in apport (main) "Apport doesn't pick up gnome-sudoku crash sometimes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88227
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88228 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88228
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88229 in Ubuntu "Runtime Revolution progs do not run directly from pendrive in Feisty Flight 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88229
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88230 in totem (main) "Totem does not load files into playlist correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88230
[02:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88231 in gaim (main) "gaim crashes inexplicably" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88231
[02:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88232 in firefox (main) "Package description is mispunctuated and very out of date" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88232
[02:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88233 in adept (main) "Adept is now dead in Fiesty Herd 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88233
[02:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88235 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88235
[02:23] <wlach> how do I change the product a bug is attached to?
[02:25] <wlach> er, the product a remote bug watch is attached to, rather
[02:25] <wlach> see bug 84662
[02:25] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 84662 in gnome-screensaver "Xnest: ghost mouse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84662
[02:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88236 in Ubuntu "Keyboard starts running slowly after CD insertion pop-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88236
[02:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88237 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "[apport]  gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88237
[02:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88238 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88238
[02:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88239 in gaim (main) "Crash when closing conversation window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88239
[02:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88240 in libx11 (main) "/usr/lib/libX11.a: could not read symbols: Malformed archive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88240
[02:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88242 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "firefox crashing during use" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88242
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88241 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "oops on suspend from dvb driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88241
[03:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88243 in evolution (main) "Evolution can not use LDAP as Automatic Contacts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88243
[03:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88244 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88244
[03:07] <mdz> bug 88104
[03:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88104 in update-notifier "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88104
[03:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88245 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88245
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88246 in Ubuntu "application "Art Manager" does not install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88246
[03:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88247 in wpasupplicant (main) "[apport]  wpa_supplicant crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88247
[03:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88248 in eog (main) "Eye of Gnome can save images with the wrong rotation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88248
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88249 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org: toolbar icons don't show under IceWM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88249
[03:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88250 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org: impress: presentation mode fails on IceWM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88250
[04:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88251 in latex2html (multiverse) "manpage typos and formatting problems." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88251
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88252 in dbus (main) "feisty dbus/avahi crash... causes gnome to not start." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88252
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88253 in Ubuntu ""KDE Daemon" dialog improperly sized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88253
[04:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88254 in xorg (main) "xserver fails to start with ATI Radeon Xpress 200M (since XOrg 7.2 update?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88254
[04:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88255 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88255
[04:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88256 in adept (main) "Adept Manager crashes around "reading state information" -- possibly related to CreatePkgParser?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88256
[04:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88257 in kdeadmin (main) ""conversation with su failed" message unhelpful" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88257
[04:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88258 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu often fails to shut down properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88258
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88259 in gnome-system-tools (main) "group manager should hide system groups " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88259
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88260 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88260
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88261 in control-center (main) "control-center link in System menu gone" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88261
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88262 in vte (main) "gnome-terminal crashes using owl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88262
[04:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88263 in Ubuntu "not a bug but a "would be nice" suggestion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88263
[04:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88264 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88264
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88266 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88266
[05:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88267 in firefox (main) "firefox crash after install answers plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88267
[05:24] <llol> hello
[05:28] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88268 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88268
[05:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88269 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88269
[05:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88270 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88270
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88271 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88271
[05:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88273 in Ubuntu "keyboard layout applet says "USA" when in Dvorak" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88273
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88276 in alsa-lib (main) "alsa-lib Binary: disagrees with Files:" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88276
[06:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88275 in linux-meta (main) "Linux version 2.6.20-9.16 hard crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88275
[06:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88277 in Ubuntu "no sound at all " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88277
[06:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88278 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic automatic updates configuration problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88278
[06:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88279 in arts (main) "[apport]  artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88279
[06:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88281 in openoffice.org (main) "Version number in artwork does not match actual version number" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88281
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88283 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88283
[07:37] <Kagou> morning :)
[07:38] <Kagou> dholbach: Bug #88104 is it a record of duplicates ?! ;)  :D
[07:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88104 in update-notifier "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88104
[07:39] <dholbach> I don't think so. :-)
[07:39] <dholbach> but it's a good start ;-)
[07:40] <yuriy> wow 53
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88285 in wine (universe) "Wine package does not include referenced wine.xpm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88285
[07:42] <Kagou> yes all in the night, so was easy to manage ;)
[07:44] <Kagou> i think that launchpad should be more "flashy" when a duplicate is already reported. In this case launchpad/malone report 2x8 bugs, user have to make efforts to read them to see if there is already his bug reported
[07:44] <yuriy> does apport do any sort of duplicate checking or was that all manual?
[07:44] <Kagou> semi-manual
[07:45] <Kagou> apport offer to report crash and user have to see if there is already the bug reported
[07:45] <cowbud> I can imagine before apport reaches 1.0 it will though
[07:45] <cowbud> apport has gone from being a great annoyance to actually being helpful
[07:45] <yuriy> cowbud: i hope so. seeing things like that makes me pretty scared of the bug situtation after feisty ships
[07:46] <cowbud> well I doubt it will happen before feisty ships :)
[07:46] <Kagou> all duplicates are "apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" so i think that malone have to CLEARLY say to the user "Hey look, SAME TITLE" ;)
[07:46] <cowbud> you run into other problems with stuff like that though also
[07:46] <cowbud> like all the firefox bugs that had the same title
[07:46] <cowbud> some people had dbg packages installed some didn't etc..
[07:46] <cowbud> it isn't that clear cut yet
[07:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88287 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88287
[07:52] <Kagou> linux-restricted-modules-generic don't want to instal ... strange
[07:53] <Kagou> ah .. not available
[08:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88288 in qt-x11-free (main) "qt3-qtconfig does not supply referenced icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88288
[08:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88289 in firefox (main) "Firefox default layout.css.dpi config wrong." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88289
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88290 in hplip (main) "hplip desktop entry icon fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88290
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88291 in Ubuntu "I can't upload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88291
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88292 in gcc-defaults (main) "GCC (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu3) Causing Data Corruption" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88292
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88294 in gcalctool (main) "[apport]  gcalctool crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88294
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88296 in update-notifier (main) "update-notifier crashed while installing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88296
[08:49] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88293 in Ubuntu "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88293
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88295 in amarok (main) "[apport]  amarokcollectionscanner crashed with SIGSEGV in QPixmap::convertFromImage() (dup-of: 87462)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88295
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88297 in Ubuntu "[apport]  DocExtractor.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88297
[09:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88298 in kdepim (main) "ldap contacts always at top of autocompletion list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88298
[09:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88299 in texlive-lang (universe) "Please sync texlive-lang 2005.dfsg.2-3 from debian/unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88299
[09:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88300 in update-notifier (main) "update notifier crashes unexpected at startup (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88300
[09:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88301 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88301
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88302 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88302
[09:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88303 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88303
[09:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88304 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88304
[09:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88307 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88307
[09:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88305 in Ubuntu "IP_FORWARD LOCATION CHANGED" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88305
[09:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88306 in unattended-upgrades (main) "[apport]  unattended-upgrade crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88306
[09:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88308 in gnome-applets (main) "[apport]  gweather-applet-2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88308
[09:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88309 in xfce4-cpufreq-plugin (universe) "[apport]  xfce4-cpufreq-plugin crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__g_closure_ref()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88309
[09:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88310 in apt-listchanges (main) "apt-listchanges crashed with "ImportError: No module named apt_pkg" (dup-of: 88114)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88310
[09:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88311 in xorg-server (main) "upgrade to 1.2.0-3ubuntu1 killed X (dup-of: 88254)" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88311
[09:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88312 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88312
[10:37] <Kagou> seb128: lu. control center have been removed ?
[10:37] <seb128> hi Kagou
[10:37] <seb128> why people don't read the changelog :/
[10:38] <Kagou> because we fight bug's duplicate ?! ;)
[10:38] <seb128> Kagou: GNOME 2.18 will use menus, you can unmask the shell from alacarte menu editor
[10:39] <seb128> pas de pb ;)
[10:39] <seb128> c'est juste que qq a dj ouvert un bug  propos de a ce matin :p
[10:42] <Kagou> :D seb128: have you seen Bug #87026 ?
[10:43] <tokj> i can't stand that control centre :/
[10:43] <seb128> Kagou: yes, that's an hundred of other desktop bugs we got this week
[10:43] <seb128> Kagou: I've been busy with xorg 7.2 and new GNOME, I'll do bug triage later
[10:44] <Kagou> ok
[10:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88314 in libxalan2-java (main) "dependency issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88314
[10:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88315 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88315
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88313 in gnome-panel (main) "Pannel of the top is too large" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88313
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88316 in spe (universe) "[apport]  spe crashed with ERROR in ")"()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88316
[11:02] <Kagou> cjwatson: why have you set NoDisplay=true for gvim.desktop ?
[11:03] <seb128> Kagou: that's a sync with Debian, it has been there for a while apparently, probably because we don't want it by default to the menu
[11:04] <Kagou> seb128: it's strange that when you specificaly install gvim you do not have menu entry
[11:04] <Kagou> old bug : Bug #3222
[11:04] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 3222 in vim "gvim does not have a menu entry" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/3222
[11:06] <seb128> Kagou: the .desktop is to vim-gui-common
[11:07] <cjwatson> Kagou: I didn't - that was from a previous upload that I simply merged. Please read the changelog more carefully.
[11:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88317 in Ubuntu "Sudden crash when loading a page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88317
[11:29] <fernando> moin all
[11:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88318 in xorg (main) "could not open default font 'fixed' (dup-of: 88254)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88318
[11:40] <tokj> bug 88104
[11:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88104 in update-notifier "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88104
[11:40] <tokj> bug 88114
[11:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88114 in update-manager "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88114
[11:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88104 in update-notifier "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88104
[11:40] <seb128> tokj: ?
[11:41] <tokj> seb128: i was looking for the links to this two bugs. sorry :P
[11:41] <seb128> np
[11:42] <fernando> tokj: test bughelper =)
[11:44] <tokj> fernando: good idea. i've completely forgotten it
[11:44] <tokj> too late
[11:53] <cypher1> dholbach: hi
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88320 in firefox (main) "Feisty: Firefox/SVG re-rendered (slow) during a tab-switch." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88320
[12:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88321 in xchat (universe) "[apport]  xchat crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_box_forall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88321
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88322 in Ubuntu "Cannot switch keyboard language layouts in Kubuntu Feisty Fawn." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88322
[12:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88323 in gaim (main) "Sudden crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88323
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88324 in gnome-utils (main) "network-admin crashes when try to start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88324
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88325 in wpasupplicant (main) "wpa_supliccant crashes constantly for bcmxxx in HP Pav. zx5000" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88325
[12:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88326 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV in start_thread()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88326
[12:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88327 in dhcdbd (main) "hangs after resume from hibernate, breaks network manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88327
[12:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88329 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88329
[12:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88330 in wifi-radar (universe) "[apport]  wifi-radar crashed with AttributeError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88330
[12:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88328 in apache2 (main) "mod_rewrite adds path info postfix after a substitution has occurred (apache bug 38642)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88328
[12:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88331 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88331
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88332 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "low volume through headphones on HP Pavilion ZT3000 (ICH4) [edgy regression] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88332
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88333 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with TypeError in update_rating()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88333
[01:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88334 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  Mouse cursor disappears" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88334
[01:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88336 in nxml-mode (universe) "Internal nXML mode error in nxml-fontify" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88336
[01:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88337 in unattended-upgrades (main) "[apport]  unattended-upgrade crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88337
[01:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88338 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88338
[01:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88339 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88339
[01:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88340 in Ubuntu "[feisty]  x server wont start after upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88340
[01:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88341 in gconf2 (main) "gconf2 crashes at login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88341
[01:46] <mooey> i'm working on a bug in a package. i apt-get source'd the source, made a copy of the source folder and made the required changes. what is the best way to make a .patch of the changes for a developer to use? i don't know anything about patch
[01:49] <Hobbsee> mooey: then run "dpkg-buildpackage -sa -S -rfakeroot", cd .. and run debdiff *.dsc > packagename.debdiff  (you'll need patchutils installed).  the packagename.debdiff is the patch.
[01:49] <fernando> mooey: look about dbs, debdiff, diff, dpatch, patch, quilt
[01:49] <Hobbsee> fernando: meh.  that's a lot of stuff, without really a clear guideline of what to do :P
[01:50] <Hobbsee> seeing as you just picked 4 patch systems in there.
[01:50] <fernando> Hobbsee: more knowledge, more powefull user
[01:50] <fernando> :P
[01:51] <mooey> too much knowledge, user cant be bothered and leaves :p
[01:51] <Hobbsee> true that, but i'm not sure you actually sent him where he needed to go, might have sent him on a goose chase with that much
[01:51] <Hobbsee> mooey: however, i would check the manpage for debdiff for an explanation on what it does
[01:51] <fernando> Hobbsee: ok, i'm wrong
[01:52] <mooey> Hobbsee, if i understand it, i'm compiling a source deb of the original package, and a source deb of my package, and using debdiff to work the difference?
[01:52] <Hobbsee> fernando: wasnt telling you off as such, was trying to point you in a better direction
[01:53] <Hobbsee> mooey: a "source deb" doesnt exist - you can build a deb (binary) from a source.  the idea is right, though.
[01:53] <Hobbsee> (you're building the source, then comparing it with debdiff)
[01:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88345 in firefox (main) "Crashes when open URL www.castorama.fr into a new tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88345
[01:53] <mooey> the source ends up in the .deb, too?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> yes
[01:53] <Hobbsee> well.  mostly
[01:54] <Hobbsee> i guess
[01:54] <Hobbsee> perhaps not all of it.  dunno at this time of night
[01:54] <mooey> i see. seems abit backward compiling both to see the changes in the source, but i'll run with that, thanks
[01:54] <Hobbsee> mooey: the -S -sa will only build the source package
[01:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88343 in amule (universe) "Amule Crash suddently" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88343
[01:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88344 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV in g_signal_emit_valist()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88344
[01:54] <Hobbsee> mooey: it wont build the binary bit
[01:54] <mooey> ah, i see
[01:55] <Hobbsee> making it very quick
[01:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88346 in Ubuntu "realplayer firefox 2.0 plugin crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88346
[01:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88347 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed when hitting "preferences", no tabs in use" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88347
[02:00] <mooey> Hobbsee, ok. that seems to work but the problem is that since im patching a package they both have the same name. dpkg-buildpackage for the patched code generates a dsc file etc with the same name as the original code
[02:01] <Hobbsee> ah.  run dch -i inside the source dir.
[02:01] <Hobbsee> (then you can edit the debian/changelog bit of the debdiff/patch out later)
[02:01] <Hobbsee> put anything in there, doesnt really matter what
[02:02] <mooey> thanks for your assistance, Hobbsee
[02:02] <Hobbsee> no problem
[02:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88348 in adept (main) "adept-manager SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88348
[02:06] <mooey> i'm curious about what happens next. i find a bug, fix the bug, attach the patch to the bug, what then? wait for the maintainer to notice it?
[02:07] <Adri2000> mooey: we have no maintainer in ubuntu
[02:08] <Adri2000> mooey: subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors (if the package is in universe/multiverse)
[02:10] <mooey> and if its in main, just attach it and wait?
[02:10] <Adri2000> subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors
[02:10] <Adri2000> mooey: what package is it?
[02:11] <mooey> Adri2000, its keep, bug 64449
[02:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 64449 in keep "[edgy]  Mistakes in keep strings" [Low,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/64449
[02:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88350 in slune (universe) "[apport]  slune crashed with  SyntaxError in sound()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88350
[02:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88349 in audacity (universe) "Audacity crashes when I try to open an ogg file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88349
[02:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88351 in bash (main) "[apport]  clear_console crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88351
[02:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88352 in pysol (universe) "pysol crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88352
[02:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88354 in deskbar-applet (main) "Can't use <Alt>+Space to start Deskbar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88354
[02:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88355 in ekiga (main) "ekiga hangs on start-up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88355
[02:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88356 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88356
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88357 in language-selector (main) "gnome-language-selector crashed immediately after starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88357
[02:58] <mooey> can somebody wishlist 76807 please?
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88359 in banshee (universe) "Banshee crashes upon launch after 2/27/07 update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88359
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88360 in gnome-system-tools (main) "network-admin crashes on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88360
[03:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88361 in amule (universe) "[apport]  amule crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_Backtrace()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88361
[03:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88362 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88362
[03:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88365 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in show_track_osd()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88365
[03:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88367 in digikam (main) "[Feisty]  Digikam is not translated in french" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88367
[03:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88366 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in show_track_osd()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88366
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88364 in ri-li (universe) "ri-li as not menu in Kde" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88364
[03:38] <mooey> if a bug exists in dapper + edgy, but is fixed in the upstream release that is used by feisty, what is the process for getting the fix backported two dapper + edgy?
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88368 in firefox (main) "MASTER firefox crashed on dragging [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsAppShell::Create] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88368
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88369 in apt-spy (universe) "apt-spy clears /etc/apt/sources.list if killed with Contol-C" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88369
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88370 in mono (main) "[apport]  mono crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88370
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88371 in samba (main) "SAMBA error 102 in 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88371
[03:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88372 in Ubuntu "Support automatic proxy detection with WPAD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88372
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88373 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in show_track_osd()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88373
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88374 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>() (dup-of: 88104)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88374
[03:54] <bddebian> Boo
[03:55] <ogra> bee
[03:55] <bddebian> :)
[03:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88377 in acpi-support (main) "Suspend to disk fails: image_size too small" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88377
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88378 in openoffice.org (main) "Writer page layout graphic redraw" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88378
[03:58] <gnomefreak> no more controlcenter uder system?
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88379 in gfax (universe) "Gfax crashes on Completed Jobs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88379
[03:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88380 in Ubuntu "[Edgy]  Proxy environment variables only set when proxy is entered manually" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88380
[04:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88381 in audacity (universe) "[apport]  audacity crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88381
[04:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88382 in Ubuntu "KInfoCenter OpenGL Module crashes on second time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88382
[04:02] <gnomefreak> is chris burgan here?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> cburg: are you here?
[04:05] <cburg> gnomefreak: hi
[04:06] <gnomefreak> cburg: hi. can you do me a big favor. i will follow this post with the right docs. please read the docs before working on mozilla bugs. you are closing bugs with all info needed and its causing the mozillateam (mainly me) 30+ minutes a day reverting your changes. i will post links now
[04:08] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88384 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No wifi with kernel update (2.6.20-9)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88384
[04:08] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingFirefoxDevels https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs  are the main ones
[04:08] <cburg> gnomefreak: They are all bugs assigned to me that have gone over 30 days without people responding to my needs info request, would you like me to assign them to you instead?
[04:08] <cburg> or mozillateam?
[04:08] <gnomefreak> cburg: all we need is a full crash report. to start with
[04:09] <gnomefreak> would like more but not really needed. we do our own retracing of crash reports
[04:09] <gnomefreak> atleast me and 1 other person. we do them as fast as we can. we also mark crashes as high priority becasue a ff crash is worst than most ff bugs
[04:11] <gnomefreak> if you dont get info you are looking for instead of closing it assign it to mozilla-bugs
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88386 in Ubuntu "Confused calculator buttons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88386
[04:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88389 in scribus (main) "UTF-8 prolem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88389
[04:13] <cburg> gnomefreak: Most of those reports have no symbols or no info at all, one-time crashes, etc. so I requested more info and there were no replies after a month. I have 50 odd FF bugs assigned to me at the moment so I am asking you if you would like me to assign them to mozilla team instead or should I just unassign them from myself?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> cburg: they have a coredump
[04:13] <gnomefreak> thats all i need with report to retrace it to get the symbols
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88390 in gftp (main) "just crash only change directory on serveur ???.. without any warning." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88390
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88391 in feisty-gdm-themes (main) "Too small font in a window of input of a login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88391
[04:16] <asac> cburg: please reassign all your bugs to mozilla-bugs ... for crashers we just need a report ... then we can work without much additional info
[04:16] <cburg> I'll just reassign them then and stay away from future firefox bugs.
[04:17] <asac> cburg: not all ... but those that are crashers :)
[04:19] <asac> cburg: no ... sorry if words sound harsh, i am a non-native speaker ;) ... you are more than welcome to help, we just need a little special workflow, because of the mere flood of firefox bugs.
[04:19] <asac> cburg: otherwise we won't get the bug count down significantly ... but we always need more triagers. a lot :)
[04:21] <asac> cburg: for crashers the procedure is simple ... if they have a report with core dump you can retrace them locally and attach stacktrace on your own. Otherwise (no report with core dump, nor symbolized trace), you can close bug.
[04:21] <asac> cburg: if you have no time to retrace, just add mt-needretrace tag and set state Needs Info
[04:22] <asac> cburg: maybe someone else will come around and do the retrace then.
[04:22] <cburg> Alright, will do. Sorry for the confusion.
[04:22] <asac> cburg: its just important not to close crashers if we can squezze something out, because we need a good overview what are the top crashers
[04:23] <asac> cburg: if you have questions on what to do with bugs just ask on #ubuntu-mozillateam
[04:23] <cburg> asac: Yes, just some didn't have any so I was misunderstanding. I get it now so I'll fix it.
[04:23] <asac> cburg: one last thing ... we have a document, what tags and what states are used to show what :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States
[04:23] <asac> cburg: thanks a lot :)
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88393 in Ubuntu "GNOME Control center disappeared" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88393
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88392 in Ubuntu "ppd install failed - printing failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88392
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88394 in Ubuntu "Clock is skiping seconds!!! " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88394
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88395 in gaim (main) "gaim crashes when moving contacts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88395
[04:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88396 in beagle (main) "[apport]  DocExtractor.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88396
[04:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88400 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "[Feisty]  Sound card (HDA) no more detected after switching from -8 to -9" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88400
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88401 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88401
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88403 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88403
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88406 in binfmt-support (main) "update-binfmt should remember which packages were disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88406
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88404 in synaptic (main) "synaptic crash at launch (after update 070227)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88404
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88405 in vte (main) "python-vte: Depends: python2.4" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88405
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88408 in Ubuntu "OS Disk cache not reclaimed on demand for programs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88408
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88409 in valknut (universe) "Please package 0.3.8!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88409
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88411 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88411
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88412 in firefox (main) "Crashed when sending a form in espabilate.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88412
[05:51] <bdmurray> seb128: I have a bug about ekiga and linked it to gnomemeeting's bug tracker.  But the gnomemeeting bug links to an opal bug.  Should I link to that to in launchpad?
[05:51] <carlos> caravena: hola
[05:51] <seb128> bdmurray: if that's an opal bug change the package and update the upstream task
[05:51] <carlos> caravena: ests?
[05:53] <bdmurray> seb128: It is a registration / connectivity issue so it seems opal is the right place then. Correct?
[05:53] <seb128> yep
[05:54] <seb128> you might want to ask to dholbach, he packages ekiga and those libs usually, I don't know much about them
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88419 in adept (main) "Crashes shortly after entering root password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88419
[06:01] <dholbach> bdmurray: no idea, sorry.
[06:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88415 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu freezes for 2-3 seconds regulary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88415
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88413 in evolution (main) "Evolution freezes after installing IMAP account" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88413
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88414 in python2.4 (main) "nicotine closes out without reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88414
[06:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88416 in Ubuntu "ipw3945 v1.2.0mp silently fails to complete load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88416
[06:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88417 in Ubuntu "Sun X2200M2 Areca 1210 Raid Ubuntu LTS <IP_ADDRESS> problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88417
[06:08] <caravena> Hola carlos!
[06:10] <carlos> caravena: por favor, entra en #ubuntu-bugs-es, tengo que hablar contigo en espaol y as no molestamos en este canal ;-)
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88418 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed at 95%" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88418
[06:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88420 in language-pack-gnome-nl (main) "Translation "Theme-Preferences" is wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88420
[06:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88421 in Ubuntu "acpi keys, hiberneate and suspend does not work (ASUS A8JP)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88421
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88422 in xchat (universe) "Auto-away is set before connecting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88422
[06:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88423 in compiz (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in viaGetLock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88423
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88424 in Ubuntu "Geforce Go 7950 GTX SLI is not detected properly." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88424
[06:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88425 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "point behind vmware-server modules? " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88425
[06:18] <carlos> bdmurray: ping
[06:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88427 in firefox (main) "I was editing my ubuntu/launchpad account of all things" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88427
[06:30] <bdmurray> carlos: pong
[06:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88426 in Ubuntu "kmenuedit does not save changes." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88426
[06:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88429 in Ubuntu "KScreensavers just display a blank screen." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88429
[06:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88430 in module-init-tools (main) "feisty loads a broken module at boot time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88430
[06:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88431 in Ubuntu "'Monitor & Display' module in System Settings is not working." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88431
[06:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88433 in Ubuntu "adept_manager and adept_updater crash on startup." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88433
[06:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88432 in thin-client-manager (main) "[apport]  scp-client crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88432
[06:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88434 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "[Edgy]  Java 6 has no symlink in the path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88434
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88441 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88441
[07:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88439 in evolution (main) "[Feisty]  no evolution icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88439
[07:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88440 in gnome-panel (main) "Disturb with system menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88440
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88442 in xcache (universe) "[UVF Exception]  Update to xcache 1.2.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88442
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88444 in Ubuntu "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88444
[07:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88445 in Ubuntu "Mute doesn't mean mute" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88445
[07:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88446 in compiz (main) "[apport]  gtk-window-decorator crashed with SIGSEGV in cairo_set_source_rgba()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88446
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88447 in Ubuntu "Running dhclient after install generates (non-critical) error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88447
[07:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88448 in Ubuntu "Partitioning issues in installer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88448
[07:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88449 in Ubuntu "duplicated drive icons on desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88449
[07:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88450 in gnome-power-manager (main) "battery doesn't load on thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88450
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88451 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with SystemError in requiredDownload()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88451
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88452 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Regression from kernel 2.6.20-8: Headphone port switching fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88452
[07:46] <cypher1> dholbach, hi
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88453 in kvpnc (universe) "Wrong command to start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88453
[07:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88454 in vbetool (main) "[apport]  vbetool crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88454
[07:48] <dholbach> hi cypher
[07:50] <cypher1> dholbach, i was thinking can we setup doxygen or sorts for the bugsquad tools ?
[07:51] <bdmurray> dholbach: I have a bug question about 69525 when you have a second
[07:52] <dholbach> cypher1: sure, why not
[07:52] <dholbach> cypher1: i think we'd better use python's docstrings though
[07:52] <dholbach> cypher1: so we can use pydoc <...>
[07:52] <dholbach> bug 69525
[07:52] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 69525 in ekiga "Port listeningn / registration broken (by design)" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69525
[07:52] <bdmurray> dholbach: I linked to upstream in gnomemeeting but that points to opal
[07:53] <dholbach> bdmurray: I don't think I'm much use with that problem.
[07:53] <bdmurray> dholbach: okay, seb said you might be
[07:53] <dholbach> No, sorry. I don't know much about the topic myself. :-/
[07:53] <cypher1> dholbach, ok! did not knew about it.. let me check it
[07:53] <dholbach> i'm out for the evening now
[07:54] <dholbach> have a nice evening!
[07:54] <dholbach> and see you tomorrow
[07:55] <cypher1> dholbach, have a nice day you too !
[07:55] <dholbach> thanks
[07:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88455 in deluge-torrent (universe) "[apport]  deluge crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88455
[07:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88151 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 85776)" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88151
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88456 in Ubuntu "new hardware reporter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88456
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88457 in Ubuntu "disk partitioning failure (Ubuntu Installer)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88457
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88458 in Ubuntu "No wine icons on menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88458
[08:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88459 in update-notifier (main) "update notifier crashed at end of updates." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88459
[08:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88460 in partman-base (main) "No check that there's a bootable partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88460
[08:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88461 in exaile (universe) "[apport]  exaile.py crashed with TypeError in import_directory()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88461
[08:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88462 in update-manager (main) "can not start updated notifier." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88462
[08:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88463 in gnome-system-tools (main) "build with --disable-gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88463
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88464 in control-center (main) "gnome-sound-properties test crashes in Asus A9T Notebook (audio chip SIS si7012) " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88464
[08:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88466 in update-manager (main) "[apport]  update-manager crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88466
[08:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88468 in Ubuntu "Removal marks are cleared when "Mark all upgrades" is pressed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88468
[08:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88469 in nttcp (multiverse) "Please merge nttcp 1.47-7 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88469
[08:42] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88470 in goffice (main) "[UVF]  goffice 0.3.5 -> 0.3.6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88470
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88471 in gaim (main) "gaim crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88471
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88472 in gnumeric (main) "[UVF]  gnumeric 1.7.6 -> 1.7.7" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88472
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88473 in update-notifier (main) "[apport]  apt-check crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88473
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88474 in mono (main) "mono crashed when starting beagle after applying patches" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88474
[08:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88476 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "cursor for DND->copy and DND->move should differ more" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88476
[08:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88477 in cupsys (main) "security: /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin/printers.cgi crashed on signal 9! (with Brother MFC5840CN PPD)." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88477
[08:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88478 in subversion (main) "subversion crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88478
[08:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88479 in Ubuntu "Every Ubuntu CD shows up as "Upgrade volume detected"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88479
[09:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88480 in beagle (main) "update crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88480
[09:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88481 in unrar-nonfree (multiverse) "Please sync unrar-nonfree 3.7.3-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88481
[09:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88482 in xorg (main) "Xserver-xorg doesn't recognize my ATI card anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88482
[09:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88483 in mono (main) "[apport]  mono crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88483
[09:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87874 in gxine (main) "Multiple buffer overflows" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87874
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88489 in gnome-terminal (main) "[feisty]  launching gnome-terminal w/geometry argument segfaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88489
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88490 in desktop-effects (universe) "Rhythmbox doesn't show its window anymore when desktop effects are enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88490
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88491 in metacity (main) "crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88491
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88492 in tiemu (multiverse) "Please merge tiemu 2.00-3 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88492
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88493 in timidity (universe) "timidity package broken in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88493
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88494 in smart (universe) "[Feisty]  Make a icon in the menu for smart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88494
[09:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88495 in network-manager (main) "[apport]  NetworkManager crashed when already running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88495
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88496 in hotkey-setup "hotkey-setup package does not update from 0.1-17ubuntu3 to hotkey-setup_0.1-17ubuntu5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88496
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88498 in update-manager "Update-manager does not show up. Ubuntu Feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88498
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88501 in epiphany-browser (main) "[apport]  epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88501
[10:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88502 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88502
[10:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88497 in rar (multiverse) "Please sync rar 1:3.7b1-2 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88497
[10:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88500 in gdebi (main) "[apport]  gdebi-gtk crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88500
[10:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88499 in Ubuntu ""Report a problem..." option under System menu doesn't work. Ubuntu Feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88499
[10:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88503 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash while scrolling a mapquest map" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88503
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88504 in gnome-terminal (main) "Screen corruption." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88504
[10:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88505 in xorg (main) "[feisty]  xorg 7.2 doesn't work with fglrx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88505
[10:29] <caravena> Hello bdmurray.
[10:31] <caravena> bdmurray: response for bug with HAL ? example #88450
[10:34] <bdmurray> caravena: checking
[10:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88485 in Ubuntu "Design bug in progres bar (Feisty Herd 4 CD) (dup-of: 85895)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88485
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88506 in firefox (main) "apport hook patch" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88506
[10:36] <caravena> bdmurray: Others bug similar with HAL. The 	brightness of notebooks.
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88508 in gnome-utils (main) "System Log Viewer copies the wrong line when filter is applied" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88508
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88509 in democracyplayer (universe) "[apport]  democracyplayer crashed with TypeError in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88509
[10:38] <caravena> Oummm sorry not secure problem with HAL.
[10:39] <bdmurray> caravena: I don't have my laptop in front of me or on right now but I think there is some battery information in /proc/sys/battery
[10:41] <caravena> ok, others bug with HAL, response? Example of commands $lshal
[10:41] <caravena> bdmurray: ?
[10:43] <bdmurray> caravena: I'm not that knowledgable about HAL or debugging it yet
[10:43] <seb128> caravena: what do you want to know?
[10:44] <caravena> Ok, thanks bdmurray.
[10:44] <caravena> seb128: response for debugging HAL
[10:45] <seb128> "HAL", like?
[10:45] <seb128> removable device?
[10:45] <caravena> seb128: Example of responses: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[10:45] <seb128> caravena: do you ask a question or pojnt a reply ?
[10:45] <caravena> seb128: In notebook problem with brightness example.
[10:46] <caravena> seb128: brightness work fine.
[10:46] <caravena> seb128: g-p-m not work with brightness for HAL.
[10:47] <seb128> might be a gnome-power-manager bug then
[10:47] <seb128> lspci, dmesg, lshal logs are probably useful
[10:48] <ogra> seb128, bt, do you have any idea about the "logout dialog comes up twice" bug ? we have plenty of these ...
[10:48] <caravena> seb128: not. In hotkey not output see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch
[10:48] <ogra> does the logout function call gdm *and* gpm at the moment ?
[10:49] <seb128> ogra: looks like it happens when they use the an hardware switch
[10:49] <ogra> seb128, yes
[10:49] <seb128> probably different daemons catching the event then
[10:49] <seb128> gnome-power-manager and something else
[10:50] <seb128> maybe gnome-session
[10:50] <ogra> to me it appears its triggered in two places
[10:50] <ogra> heh, snap
[10:51] <seb128> ogra: yes try, make g-p-m stop reaction to it and looks what happens
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88510 in php5 (main) "php5-mssql disabled in source" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88510
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88511 in Ubuntu "Crash when entering  "glxinfo | grep rendering"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88511
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88512 in update-manager (main) "python2.5-minimal blocks update from Edgy to Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88512
[10:51] <ogra> well, that would mean make hal ignore it
[10:51] <seb128> ?
[10:51] <ogra> gpm only reads from hal
[10:51] <seb128> gpm has a gconf key to configure what to do on event
[10:52] <ogra> ah, ok ... i thought we're talking about code :)
[10:53] <seb128> no just about action on event
[10:53] <seb128> if you have a bug open about could you milestone if for feisty?
[10:53] <seb128> I'll have a look if nobody else do
[10:53] <ogra> heh, funny
[10:54] <ogra> if i set the gconf key from interactive to nothing, i dont get *any* logout dialog
[10:54] <ogra> so its gpm triggering it twice
[10:54] <seb128> here you go :p
[10:54] <ogra> or reading the event twice
[10:55] <seb128> maybe giskard have an idea for that
[10:55] <seb128> or ask upstream
[10:55] <ogra> yep
[10:55] <ogra> will do
[10:55] <seb128> or maybe pitti ;)
[10:56] <ogra> upstream was my fist guess ... even though i start to suspec that hal triggers a lot of button events twice recently ...
[10:56] <ogra> there was that thinkpad brightness thing
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88513 in beryl-manager (universe) "crash at start beyl , black screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88513
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88514 in rhythmbox (main) "[Feisty]  rhythmbox fails to play a track after a jump to the beginning of the track" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88514
[10:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88515 in colormake (universe) "Bad invokation in /usr/bin/*" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88515
[10:56] <ogra> that was also caused by a double triggered button event in hal
[10:58] <seb128> that should be easy to print something to the log when entering the event callback to know if it's called several times then
[11:00] <ogra> yep
[11:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88516 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal crashes when creating a new tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88516
[11:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88517 in gnome-panel (main) "window list  "move to workspace" should be removed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88517
[11:17] <giskard> ogra, what bug?
[11:17] <ogra> giskard, tons of them ... wait i need to find the master
[11:18] <caravena> gnome is of seb128  : -D
[11:18] <ogra> if my evo would react :P
[11:18] <caravena> in LP. : -)
[11:18] <ogra> giskard, bug 81227
[11:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 81227 in gnome-power-manager "Logout screen appears twice [Feisty] " [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81227
[11:18] <giskard> uh, cool!
[11:19] <giskard> never see it, at last with 2.16 series
[11:19] <ogra> i do
[11:19] <ogra> i never use my powerbutton (suspend works here :) ) so i never saw it before the rport
[11:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88518 in libjaxp1.3-java (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88518
[11:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88519 in Ubuntu "emerald theme manager crashed when i chose a theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88519
[11:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88520 in freetype (main) "Cannot used TTF_RenderText_Shaded with spaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88520
[11:36] <giskard> ogra, do you want maintain beryl?
[11:36] <seb128> you want to work on compiz :p
[11:37] <ogra> giskard, ? err ... not that i already work 16h a day :)
[11:37] <giskard> seb128, i don't want do compiz / beryl.
[11:37] <ogra> i think maintaining ltsp and edubuntu and a small bunch of ubuntu packages is enough for now :)
[11:38] <seb128> giskard: don't then
[11:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88521 in bughelper (main) "selectively pulling attachments by name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88521
[11:38] <giskard> seb128, :)
[11:42] <pochu> hehe
[11:44] <tokj> seb128: excuse me. How can I recognize if a valgrind log has been obtained with the dbgsyms installed? In bug 88030 I can't see a clear difference between the two logs
[11:44] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 88030 in control-center "gnome-control-center error on ubuntu feisty" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88030
[11:45] <pochu> seb128: do you know if compiz is going to be shiped by default in feisty? I say it because ubuntu-desktop now depends on desktop-effects :)
[11:45] <seb128> pochu: no
[11:45] <seb128> pochu: it's going to be on the CD but it's not ready to be the default, doesn't work fine on many configurations atm
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88522 in xorg-server (main) "Font error causes xorg server to crash (xorg 7.2 Feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88522
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88523 in desktop-effects (universe) "No error message when failed to enable compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88523
[11:46] <pochu> seb128: yes, I wanted to say if it's going to be installed by default :)
[11:46] <seb128> pochu: probably yep, we need to get feeback to be sure first
[11:47] <pochu> we have a lot of compiz bugs...
[11:47] <pochu> but maybe because we are using a beta hehe
[11:47] <seb128> we are not
[11:47] <seb128> 0.3.6 is a stable version
[11:47] <seb128> tokj: "==16832==    by 0x40490E1: (within /usr/lib/libslab.so.0.0.0)" things like that is non debug
[11:48] <seb128> tokj: when it's debug you have a function name and line from the source file
[11:48] <seb128> ==7647== Invalid read of size 1
[11:48] <seb128> ==7647==    at 0x45A7B00: g_markup_escape_text (gmarkup.c:1903)
[11:48] <seb128> ==7647==    by 0x45A869C: g_markup_vprintf_escaped (gmarkup.c:2215)
[11:48] <seb128> ==7647==    by 0x45A876A: g_markup_printf_escaped (gmarkup.c:2272)
[11:48] <seb128> ==7647==    by 0x404CEBE: application_tile_new_full (application-tile.c:356)
[11:48] <seb128> ==7647==    by 0x4048E8E: insert_launcher_into_category (app-shell.c:1231)
[11:48] <seb128> ==7647==    by 0x40491B6: generate_launchers (app-shell.c:1032)
[11:48] <seb128>
[11:48] <seb128> that is debug
[11:48] <seb128> "application_tile_new_full (application-tile.c:356)"
[11:50] <tokj> ok seb128, thank you. now i know what i should control :)
[11:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88524 in corewars (universe) "Corewars causes system to crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88524
[11:56] <pochu> seb128:     *  Latest stable release is 0.2.2.
[11:56] <pochu>     * Latest development release is 0.3.6. (Highly Recommended)
[11:57] <pochu> seb128: I don't say it's unstable, but it's not the *stable* version :)
[11:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88525 in ubiquity (main) "Trying to install KUBUNTU.  Installer crashed while copying data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88525
[11:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88526 in Ubuntu "x86_64 does not include 32bit libboost in /usr/lib32" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88526
[11:58] <seb128> hum, network problem
[11:58] <seb128> did you get what I wrote about debug log?
 ok seb128, thank you. now i know what i should control :)
[11:59] <seb128> k ;-)
[11:59] <tokj> 23:50:54
[11:59] <tokj> :)
[12:00] <ogra> seb128, giskard, its a hal problem:
[12:00] <ogra> [hal_device_condition_cb]  gpm-button.c:381 (23:59:23):   udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_logicaldev_input, condition=ButtonPressed, details=power
[12:00] <ogra> [emit_button_pressed]  gpm-button.c:323 (23:59:23):       emitting button-pressed : power
[12:00] <ogra> [hal_device_condition_cb]  gpm-button.c:381 (23:59:23):   udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/acpi_PWRF, condition=ButtonPressed, details=power
[12:00] <ogra> [emit_button_pressed]  gpm-button.c:323 (23:59:23):       emitting button-pressed : power
[12:01] <ogra> it exposes two different events for the button press
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88527 in Ubuntu "Crystal Audio sound card not installed automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88527
[12:01] <seb128> ogra: not a surprise ;)
[12:01] <ogra> yeah
[12:01] <seb128> ogra: how do you monitor hal events like that ?
[12:01] <ogra> but that rules out a gpm standalone prob
[12:02] <ogra> gnome-power-manager --no-daemon --debug button
[12:02] <seb128> ok
[12:02] <ogra> --debug needs undocumented arguments though ... you need to know the names of the source files
[12:03] <ogra> (silly idea imho)