[20:32] <sp38> ok wafflejock thanks let me try
[20:32] <wildwind> sp38: see wafflejock's answer above
[20:32] <PDilyard> sp38: i use sublime text 3
[20:32] <bekks> sp38: gvim :D
[20:33] <vizgix> nano is probably the built in one
[20:33] <PDilyard> bekks is hardcore :)
[20:33] <vizgix> ill try and check back
[20:33] <wafflejock> bekks: is hardcore+1
[20:33] <sp38> ok thanks all let me try
[20:33] <vizgix> err.. how do i exit irssi
[20:33] <wildwind> PDilyard: ed is true hardcore
[20:33] <wafflejock> yeah sublime text is by far my favorite for development but I never got my vi chops
[20:34] <naptic> nope didnt work
[20:34] <naptic> still the same message
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> naptic, What didn't work be descriptive and use nicks. Did you save the bootinfo summary?
[20:35] <hydester> Can anybody recommend an inexpensive hard drive enclosure (usb) that supports ubuntu?  i was reading about the Vantec NexStar TX and then saw talks about it not being support by Linux/Ubuntu.  Not sure of the details or how that would be, but this is new to me.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> hydester, 1000's of external usb HD boxes most should work.
[20:37] <ania> clear
[20:37] <ania> haha
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> hydester, Buy from a source that takes returns is all in case there is problems.
[20:37] <wildwind> hydester: only the cheapest ones may not work. at all :)
[20:37] <Harmageddon> Hi folks! I'm still messing around with my graphics problems. I just reinstalled Ubuntu 13.10, it worked fine with nomodeset. Then, I installed nvidia-319 via apt-get and ran nvidia-xconfig. After rebooting, I get the login screen (in very small resolution), but after logging in, the screen stays black, I only see my cursor.
[20:37] <Harmageddon> Graphics card is a nVidia GeForce GT 750M.
[20:38] <ania> Harmagedon youre not alone
[20:38] <PDilyard> speaking of graphics cards: nvidia geforce gtx 650 or ati radeon hd 7790?
[20:39] <ania> there is some problem with new kernel.......i was able to see login screen but coulndt login to system at all
[20:39] <hydester> wilee-nilee: yeah, just defective vs incompatible may be issue with some returns.  wasn't sure if there was any criteria or some wiki listing compatible devices
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Harmageddon, Do you have a dual card setup perchance run lspci and identify the graphic hardware
[20:40] <Harmageddon> wilee-nilee: Yes, I do: http://imgur.com/wgXsq4m
[20:40] <ania> Harmagedon are u there
[20:40] <ania> ?
[20:40] <vizgix> Greetings, Im VIZ, Im having trouble with my DNS for my webhosting with installed program webmin on my ec2 amazon ubuntu server. I do not recall how to change settings on webmin, I believe I have use an editor to open the file once i 'ls'. nano did work, but i didnt get legible code. Im lost. also please bear with me as im ussing irssi via cmd line
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> hydester, Not really, I bought a really cheap one from amazon and it did not work in linux, but bought another about the same price that did, you get what you pay for to some extent.
[20:41] <hydester> wilee-nilee: did you have to pay return shipping to amazon?
[20:41] <joossee> guys i just compiled a file but I donut know how to execute it?
[20:41] <Harmageddon> ania: I'm here. I tried almost everything so far, but nothing works for me. :( Wondering, why the first start after installation works fine, but from then on, it stops working...
[20:41] <ania> Harmagedon can u press crt+alt+f1 ....login ....there.....than write "dmesg" look for some error notice
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> Harmageddon, So from waht I understand the nvidia kicks in when needed, otherwise the other card runs in general, not an area I'm real up on really.
[20:42] <ania> pr if possible stay with orginal graphic settings and drivers in system
[20:43] <vizgix> anyone hosted with webmin or used ubuntu servers
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> hydester, I did not return that one, but it depends on why you return, I forget the choice that generally guarantees no charge.
[20:43] <padrino> You know if I install Ubuntu to my laptop will it overwrite Windows or install alongside it?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> padrino, Either it is your choice.
[20:44] <PDilyard> padrino: you can do either
[20:44] <PDilyard> yeah, what he said
[20:44] <padrino> Do I get the choice during the installation steps? Because I don't want to install, overwrite Windows and realised I missed out something to disable overwriting?
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> padrino, So is this W8?
[20:45] <vizgix> sigh, only plebs here
[20:45] <padrino> Why you being so condescending vizgix
[20:45] <k1l_> webmin got kicked out of the debian and ubuntu repos anyway.
[20:46] <padrino> I could same the same about you (call you a pleb) for not knowing as much about a subject as me, such as music, football etc
[20:46] <PDilyard> padrino: he left
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> padrino, They are gone, don;t drop to their level. ;)
[20:46] <PDilyard> :)
[20:46] <k1l_> padrino: you will get asked if you want to install ubuntu on the whole harddisk(erase windows) or to install it alongside
[20:47] <padrino> Alright thanks for help guys, I appreciate it :-)
[20:47] <Harmageddon> ania: http://zweiiconkram.de/dmesg.txt
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> padrino, My concern here is if you have W8 and a uefi computer and how many primary partitions are there now.
[20:48] <Harmageddon> ania: maybe this one? --> *ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpgart module.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> padrino, And if you know what I'm talking about. ;)
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> heh, gone oh well
[20:49] <dewdgang-frank> arrr
[20:49] <PDilyard> i would really appreciate if people would stop storming off stage!
[20:49] <dewdgang-frank> still didnt get ubuntu working on my sd card :<
[20:50] <Jebus> okay  the update manager is still messed up how do I fix it
[20:50] <gordonjcp> PDilyard: people do that when they don't get instant answers to their poorly-described problems :-)
[20:50] <PDilyard> heh
[20:50] <ania> Harmagedon WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 1463 at /build/buildd/linux-3.11.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_pm.c:5095 i915_request_power_well+0x77/0x80 [i915]
[20:50] <ania> try on google it
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> naptic, Did you install bootrepair and run it and save the bootinfo summary?
[20:53] <Jebus> the update manager is messed up how do I fix it?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> !details | Jebus
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal and pastebin all the info.
[20:54] <gordonjcp> PDilyard: I'm amazed how many people ask about webmin then go off in a snit when they're told it's not supported
[20:54] <Mathieuh> hey guys do you know what program run in weechat at the bottom of this http://pascalpoitras.com/2013/05/25/my-weechat-configuration/
[20:55] <PDilyard> gordonjcp: im amazed at how many people go off in a snit at all, i mean this isnt paid support
[20:55] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: GRUB is needed to be able to boot. Did you boot Ubuntu's installer via EFI or BIOS? (If you used Apple's boot menu and selected "Windows", you booted via BIOS).
[20:55] <[Gentoo]> what bit?
[20:55] <gordonjcp> PDilyard: true
[20:55] <[Gentoo]> Mathieuh: ^
[20:55] <Mathieuh> [Gentoo], the part with sysinfo
[20:55] <Jebus> There is a red ! at the top right hand corner I press it and it open update manager and when I check for updates it says Failed to download repository information Check your internet connection
[20:55] <Harmageddon> ania (seems to be gone): All I get on google are a few pastebins
[20:56] <Richhh> 3GHz Celeron 1GB RAM fast enough to encrypt home folder without much slowdown?
[20:56] <Richhh> in lubuntu
[20:56] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Apples Boot manager. GRUB always fails on the installation at the end of the installation but the installation finishes anyway
[20:56] <[Gentoo]> Mathieuh: at the bottom right? conky?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Are you on the net otherwise?
[20:56] <Mathieuh> conky ok thanks!
[20:56] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: Did Apple's boot manager call it "Windows" or "Ubuntu" though?
[20:56] <[Gentoo]> it says conky in bold red you noob lol
[20:56] <Mathieuh> lol i am
[20:56] <Jebus> yes
[20:57] <Mathieuh> [Gentoo], i read beauty not conky at first
[20:57] <Mathieuh> lol
[20:57] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U After Ubuntu is installed on my SD Card, I reboot, hold the option key on my macbook pro and it only offers me Mac OS X to boot from. Or the Ubuntu live CD when its inserted. No Ubuntu from SD Card to chose
[20:57] <[Gentoo]> Mathieuh: :)
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Have you modified the sources.list or changed it's access?
[20:58] <Jebus> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 12.04 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20120423)/dists/precise/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs This is what it says when I run sudo apt-get update
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, This an install?
[20:58] <bjensen82> When I try to setup ssmtp it stalls. That is when I try to test the configuration: ssmtp "foo"<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I press enter...nothing happens..
[20:58] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: I want to know, when you booted Ubuntu's *installer*, did you use Apple's built in boot manager, and if so did the option for booting Ubuntu's installer have a "Windows" label or an "Ubuntu" label (or something else)?
[20:59] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Oh, sorry. Yes it always says Windows. I thought this would be some kind of known bug or something.
[20:59] <[Gentoo]> Richhh: yes
[20:59] <Richhh> Forums say encrypting the home folder negligibly impacts performance on 'modern PCs', have 3GHz Celeron 1GB RAM - fast enough?
[20:59] <[Gentoo]> Richhh: it will work
[20:59] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Never ever saw the Ubuntu label when i booted from Ubuntu 12 or 13 live CD
[20:59] <Richhh> [Gentoo] ok thanks
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> Richhh: no idea how much cpu usage it would cost
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Richhh: I tried it on a 3GHz Core 2 Duo with 4GB of RAM and it worked, but it absolutely crippled performance
[21:00] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: That means that it's trying to boot via Apple's BIOS implementation rather than via EFI, and since you want an EFI based installtion you want to boot the installer via EFI.
[21:00] <Jebus> not that I know of under that is says Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> Richhh: it also depends on your hdd
[21:00] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: What image did you use, and did you burn it to an actual CD/DVD?
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> if its an ssd then encryption will slow it
[21:00] <gordonjcp> Richhh: ten minutes to load a 14MB image, for example
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> !who | Jebus
[21:00] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U I used the latest Ubuntu 12 Image 64 bit
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> gordonjcp: seriously thats not normal
[21:00] <gordonjcp> [Gentoo]: <shrug>
[21:01] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: Please answer all of my questions.
[21:01] <gordonjcp> [Gentoo]: it was only an experiment, I'd never seriously consider using encrypted disks *anyway*
[21:01] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U and I burned it on a CD
[21:01]  * gordonjcp -> pint
[21:01] <gordonjcp> later all
[21:01] <Jebus> I can see the ones targeted to me they are in red
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, What you describe in the apt-get update sounds like a live cd/usb enviroment, is this correct?
[21:01] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Sorry im not that fast and pretty sleepless since trying this for ages :-)
[21:02] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Imagefilename is:
[21:02] <wildwind> Richhh: you can measure it by creating a small volume and testing
[21:02] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:02] <Jebus> I downloaded ubuntu 12.04 using a disc from the Cannonical website
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Use nicks.
[21:03] <pfifo> Jebus: you are being asked to do the same for other users ;) start your comments with a persons name.
[21:03] <Jordan_U> dewdgang-frank: See if you can boot the intaller via UEFI from rEFIt, booting the installer via UEFI should make the install succeed, though you can fix things manually even when booting the installer via BIOS.
[21:03] <Jebus> !tab
[21:03] <Jebus> !nicks
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, I live environment using just the cd has limitations, what is your end goal here?
[21:04] <wolfspy> hi
[21:04] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Okay, I already tried it with rEFIt, some people say its outdated. So I should stick with "refind". Currently on http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ and trying to download it. Feeling pretty dumb, wheres the dl link :F
[21:04] <wolfspy> im having trouble installing ubuntu 13
[21:05] <[Gentoo]> wolfspy: how
[21:05] <wolfspy> whenever I select any options once the live cd has booted, it says kernal panic
[21:05] <[Gentoo]> thats no good then
[21:05] <wolfspy> and I think it says it could not write to something
[21:05] <Jebus> To stop using windows was my original end goal but then I decided I wanted to do stuff for security companies
[21:05] <wolfspy> it does that with linux mint too
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> hw issue probably
[21:06] <wolfspy> whats hq
[21:06] <wolfspy> hw*
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Type the first few letters of a persons nick than hot tab to complete it than answer them.
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> hit*
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> wolfspy: have you tried booting with the bare minimum (nothing else plugged in)
[21:07] <wolfspy> what do you mean
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Can we get that squared away?
[21:07] <wolfspy> like to moniters or mouse or anything]
[21:07] <wolfspy> no*
[21:07] <wafflejock> wolfspy: hardware
[21:07] <[Gentoo]> or if theres any key words in the panic, or take a photo and upload
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> !who
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> read that people
[21:08] <wolfspy> before the opetions menu opens, it sayssomething about no root
[21:08] <wafflejock> wolfspy: boot free of any USB devices except the bare essentials keyboard monitor
[21:08] <Jebus> wil yep
[21:08] <wolfspy> im on a laptop
[21:08] <pfifo> wilee-nilee: ok
[21:08] <wolfspy> I have 2 moniters
[21:08] <wafflejock> wolfspy: boot just on the laptop no extras to see if you have any luck so you can narrow down the issue
[21:08] <Jebus> wilee-nilee, yep
[21:08] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U I have been using the tutorial from http://www.michaelevans.org/blog/2013/01/15/boot-ubuntu-from-an-sd-card-on-your-macbook-air/
[21:08] <wolfspy> ok
[21:08] <wolfspy> ill take a picture of it as well
[21:09] <wolfspy> bye
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Heh sorry but we have a handful of user here not using nicks is all.
[21:09] <DebianIsHARD> hey guys, "greeter-hide-users=true" is not working on the latest version of ubuntu desktop
[21:09] <DebianIsHARD> any idea?
[21:09] <[Gentoo]> DebianIsHARD: what is that from?
[21:09] <dewdgang-frank> Jordan_U Im trying it now again booting it via rEFIt again. Maybe I have some luck. Otherwise I will come here again :D :D
[21:09] <DebianIsHARD> lightdm.conf
[21:09] <[Gentoo]> ah ok sort of guessed
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Excellent, so the live cd does not do updates unless you modify the sources.list and wont save any changes unless you have a persistent setup which you would need it on a usb to do.
[21:10] <nir> wille
[21:10] <DebianIsHARD> any ideas why it isn't working? seems like this is the popular tweak to not list usernames on the logon screen but perhaps not working with latest version
[21:10] <nir> Gentoo - arm
[21:10] <nir> Iron
[21:10] <nir> DalnET
[21:11] <DebianIsHARD> [Gentoo]: am i spot on?
[21:11] <nir> #room
[21:11] <nir> SecCct
[21:11] <[Gentoo]> DebianIsHARD: no idea
[21:11] <nbursh> hi all
[21:11] <nir> Source %%9I or FILE name R-09
[21:11] <nbursh> is someone here?
[21:11] <nir> Debian 7 REL
[21:12] <bekks> nbursh: several hundreds.
[21:12] <DJones> nir: This channel is for Ubuntu support, do you have a support issue relating to Ubuntu?
[21:12] <[Gentoo]> nir: what are you spammin
[21:12] <k1l_> nir: please stop that nonsense
 so pretty much I am screwed
[21:12] <nir> any BH?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Not sure really, you can load a usb with persistence, or just install if you want to have a OS that is the same on a reboot.
[21:13] <nbursh> can anyone help me? when I type software-center it says: ImportError: No module named gi.repository
[21:14] <nir> GoMEZ
  that is the thing the reason why I bought the CD was because windows 8 wouldn't let me boot from a usb or a CD that I made
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, If you want to learn security stuff there are OS's that are designed to run on a usb with no saves like kali linux, but it is not supported here.
[21:15] <trism> DebianIsHARD: do you have greeter-show-manual-login=true as well? I think you need both these days for it to work in unity-greeter
[21:15] <DebianIsHARD> trism: yes i do
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, W8 has a different setup is is uefi, here lets have the bot tell you.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Jebus
[21:15] <DebianIsHARD> trism: i need it to login to domain
  I have used Kali before but I have more understanding with Ubuntu
[21:16] <Harmageddon> Does anybody have an idea how I could get more than a cursor on a black screen after logging in to Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Cool, so you see the bots uefi info? is this a W8 installed by the manufacturer?
[21:17] <[Gentoo]> Harmageddon: try ctrl+alt+f2
  W8 was install by the manufacturer
[21:18] <nbursh> -///Guys, If I install win xp on extern hd, will it remove win 7 launcher?
[21:18] <[Gentoo]> yes
[21:18] <Harmageddon> [Gentoo]: Yes, tty1 - tty6 are working, but I'd like to have a graphical interface sometimes ;)
[21:18] <[Gentoo]> nbursh: if its the same drive
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Thanks, so getting a usb/cd to boot is a little more work, along with the dualboot, are you at all familiar with uefi?
[21:18] <[Gentoo]> nbursh: if not then it should be ok
[21:19] <trism> DebianIsHARD: just tested and it is working here, are you using unity-greeter? if it is lightdm-kde greeter instead there is bug 1237684
[21:19] <dewdgang-frank> ok now formatting and creating 2 partitions on my sd card for the ubuntu installation even fails :/
[21:19] <dewdgang-frank> damn
[21:19] <nbursh> Gentoo I want to install win xp from usb device, I have win 7 installed on my hdd, but I want to install xp on extern hd (connected with usb)
  I am not familiar with uefi but the thing is when I put Ubuntu on I Erased W8
[21:20] <[Gentoo]> nbursh: never tried it so no idea
[21:20] <[Gentoo]> not sure what will happen
[21:21] <[Gentoo]> if it lets you install XP to that drive it should be fine
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Ah, that can happen, you can get a oem disc set from the manufacturer if you want it back, if you have no backup. Are you sure its gone, or just wont boot?
[21:21] <Harmageddon> nbursh: Should work, but you will have to plug in your external drive always in order to boot
[21:21] <[Gentoo]> nbursh: i would unplug all other drives to be safe
[21:21] <nbursh> Does win xp installer have option where to install launcher?  I have a problem with drag and dropping applications to my desktop. I want to be able to make desktop shortcuts. I receive this error.... There was an error getting information about “/”.
[21:23] <dewdgang-frank> :/
[21:23] <unicornjedi> can someone help me?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> nbursh, That's a ##windows topic
[21:23] <nbursh> sorry, I know it
[21:23] <Mathieuh> [Gentoo], it was wrriten like Conky
[21:23] <Mathieuh> ?
[21:23] <Mathieuh> Conky
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> unicornjedi, Probably just relax and enjoy the time.
[21:23] <[Gentoo]> Mathieuh: conky
[21:23] <[Gentoo]> is the package
[21:23] <Mathieuh> ok thanks
[21:24] <unicornjedi> wilee-nilee, um.... so I should be at peace with this problem?
[21:24] <k1l_> !conky | Mathieuh
[21:24] <oal> I have an external USB drive connected, but ubuntu has changed its mount point. How can I change it back? Unmounting and mounting again brings it to the new mount point
  I haven't tried to boot W8 and I don't really want the W8 CD and yes I am on Ubuntu as we speak
[21:25] <k1l_> Mathieuh: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky as a start
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> unicornjedi, Not necessarily, but realize you are one of 1700 people on the channel and have some patience. ;)
[21:26] <chro> hi
[21:26] <chro> how can I see the ip of the other computers connected to my WAN ?
[21:27] <unicornjedi> wilee-nilee, um okay... :/
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, So just removing W8 and installing ubuntu is not exactly as it used to be as far as a simple install, with a uefi setup is all. You can most likely have what you want if you know how to do it and or someone helps you and the communication is clear as to what you want exactly.
[21:27] <chro> there was a routing table containing that info, but I forgot the command to access them
[21:27] <wildwind> chro: you mean LAN i suppose?
[21:27] <chro> wildwind, yes
[21:27] <chro> sorry
[21:28] <ShadowStrider> What to do if i get S.M.A.R.T. errors related to windows / ubuntu dualboot?
[21:28] <PDilyard> unicornjedi: quick google search, try this maybe? http://askubuntu.com/questions/142159/desktop-shortcut-to-create-a-new-desktop-shortcut-doesnt-do-anything
[21:28] <PDilyard> note: i have not tested
[21:28] <wildwind> chro: there's no such table AFAIK
[21:28] <tnk1> Anyone know how to get user_xattr to properly activate on root (trying to utilize the netfliex desktop ppa/app)?
  I want to be able to update my ubuntu Os and get ride of the red ! on the top right hand corner of my screen
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, On a live cd?
[21:29] <chro> wildc4rd, you're right. However I found the ips through this command: nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[21:29] <wildwind> chro: if you know their names, use host command
[21:29] <alumno> buenas
[21:29] <chro> tks
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Open gparted and take a screenshot of it and put it in a imagebin.
  I don't have to put the cd in on start up
  okay
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, What is your native language, I have the feeling we are not communicating clearly.
  English and I am so confused
[21:32] <pfifo> ShadowStrider: backup your important data and order a new harddrive to replace the bad one
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Ah, okay, fir me seeing the gparted image will answer a few questions I have asked which you have not answered is all.
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> for*
[21:33] <unicornjedi> wilee-nilee, Thank you, but it seems inefficient compared to drag and drop
[21:33] <Guest3276> i tried to boot the live dvd 13.10, but after the grub screen it is all black (waited 45min), so i added the nomodeset now i get past the ubuntu splash screen but the gui doesnt start up and i am stuck on the check list of start up items
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> Guest3276, Have you checked the md5sum?
  can you reask the questions I might be able to answer them. I might not have seen them
[21:34] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: yes i have
[21:34] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: i also burnt 2 dvd and both failed to boot
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Okay, so you are trying to fix this red notice while using the live cd?
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> Guest3276, Did you burn them as slow as possible? Is this on a computer that has say W8?
[21:35] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: i should point out i am using the computer right now, i can get to a TTY1 and sun apt-get install irssi then i loged in here
[21:36] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: the first dvd i burnt at max speed the second on 2x
  No when I first installed ubuntu I erased the hard disk and but ubuntu on the hard disk instead of using it as a live cd
[21:36] <Guest3276> Guest3276: i also tried a usb penboot, same deal
[21:36] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: ^
[21:37] <pfifo> you highlighted yourself?
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Guest3276: can you install pastebinit and get us your dmesg and Xorg log. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:37] <pfifo> pfifo: you are awesome
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> Guest3276, so what happens if you run sudo start lightdm from the tty?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Can you boot that ubuntu install?
  No, I have tried
  I meant I have tried to reinstall ubuntu sorry your question confused me
[21:39] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: i chucks my right back to the first boot screen, the one listing all the checks preforming with PASS next to there name. what is this start check screen caled
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, Okay, so lets see that gparted screenshot, I will have the bot give you some info to make it easier
[21:39] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: yes i can do that, give me a few minutes
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot | Jebus
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> Guest3276, Not sure I can really help if the nomodeset option does not even get you to the desktop on a live dvd, sorry.
[21:40] <pvl1> hey im getting errors with the fglrx propriety driver from the repos
 The red notice isn't up as of right not it pops up radomly but I can show you the update manager
[21:42] <x_root> how to know the name of service/command?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, I think you are not understanding that the live cd enviroment has limitations it is not designed to just run a update without changing part of a file called the sources.list, it is reading the disc not the ubuntu repos.
[21:42] <nightwalkerkg> Hi. I am using Ubuntu 13.10,is there a way to install Gnome 3.10 on it ?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> nightwalkerkg, From a ppa yes, however it is not supported here.
[21:42] <supergauntlet> i believe the gnome team has a ppa
[21:43] <nightwalkerkg> wilee-nilee: Ok,where can i get support for that ?
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> nightwalkerkg, It also has warnings on trying it.
[21:43] <pfifo> x_root: `service --status-all`
 what type of limitations
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> nightwalkerkg, The maintainer of the ppa, if your lucky.
 do you still want me to put up the sceenshot
[21:44] <tnk1> Anyone?
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> Jebus, I have addressed this numerous times, we are going in circles here, I have to step away from trying to help you anymore, sorry.
[21:44] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: dmesg log: paste.ubuntu.com/6428672
[21:44] <x_root> pfifo, thanks
[21:44] <tnk1> Anyone know how to get user_xattr to properly activate on root (trying to utilize the netfliex desktop ppa/app)?
[21:44] <pfifo> Jebus: the livecd is limited in such that... you cant update it. (cdroms are read only)
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, thanks. ;)
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> Guest3276: so this is a mac?
[21:46] <pfifo> Jebus: so to get rid of the red ! on your livecd's desktop, simple get a roll of electrical tape, tear or cut a smapp peice of it off the roll, and place the piece on your monitor over top of the red !
 I understand that but I installed it to my hard disk and no longer have to put the cd in as I turn on the computer
[21:46] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: yes
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> Guest3276: are you using the mac specific iso?
[21:47] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: i am not
[21:47] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: do you have a link please
[21:48] <pfifo> Jebus: you just said, the install was broken when you tried to reinstall, you really cant have it both ways, is it working and booting from an installed ubuntu, or is it broken and booting from a livecd when the red ! is appearing?
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> Guest3276: http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ try the amd64+mac iso and come back if the issue is still there
[21:48] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: no worries i will google it, thanks for the help
[21:48] <Guest3276> hitsujiTMO: will do, thanks for you time :-D
[21:48] <Guest3276> wilee-nilee: thanks again wilee-nilee
 Maybe I could water cool the computer LULZ, no, I don't know if the boot is broken I am extremely new to ubuntu
[21:50] <pfifo> Jebus: ok can you, take the cdrom out of your computer, reboot, and boot the system without using the cd?
  I am not using the cd as we speak
[21:51] <pfifo> Jebus: open a terminal and run this command 'lsb_release -sc' and tell me what it says
[21:52] <Jebus> precise, that is all it says
[21:53] <Cheekio> is it possible for my ubuntu laptop to act as a router over its one ethernet port?
[21:53] <pfifo> Jebus: to update your system, run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' if you encounter any errors pastebin all the output from the command
[21:55] <wildwind> Cheekio: yes of course
[21:56] <Cheekio> @wildwind, I'm having trouble finding directions. I thought I was asking about "bridging" but that seems to be a different thing.
[21:56] <Cheekio> Is there a utils program I should be looking up? What do you even call acting as a wired router?
  http://pastebin.com/ZvhSQKWG
[21:58] <wolfspy> im having issues installing ubuntu
[21:58] <wolfspy> 13
[21:59] <wildwind> Cheekio: there's plenty of guides. check this for ex. http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/133-general-linux/741408-how-to-configure-ubuntu-as-a-router
[21:59] <wolfspy> whenever I click options on the disk, it says kernal panic
[21:59] <wolfspy> http://imgur.com/tGOv3jf then http://imgur.com/FzZ4svO
[21:59] <wolfspy> what is wrong?
[22:00] <wolfspy> I already tried unplugging all hardware, and this happens with mint too
[22:00] <Cheekio> thanks wildwind
[22:00] <Cheekio> !
[22:00] <pfifo> Jebus: ok heres the main issue then, why do you have cdrom based sources in an installed system?
[22:00] <robenchain> hello all.  I recently installed 13.10 and now my shockwave flash isn't working.  how do i resolve the issue?
[22:00] <lj1102> Hey, anyone knows how i can "drop" a usb device? I got a usb device that just needs power but should not be detected by ubuntu
[22:00] <lj1102> @robechain what browser do you use?
  how do I change it
[22:01] <wolfspy> anyone?
[22:01] <robenchain> Google Chrome
[22:01] <Cen1nant> Google Chrome.
[22:01] <lj1102> @robenchain what exactly do you see where the fash content should be?
[22:01] <pfifo> Jebus: if you dont know why its like that then you should format and reinstall cause something is wrong.
[22:02] <robenchain> "Couldn't load plugin"
[22:02] <lj1102> have you tried to update chrome?
  It won't let met reinstall I have already tried
[22:02] <lj1102> otherwise you could try to uninstall and reinstall it
[22:02] <pfifo> Jebus: why wont it let you reinstall?
[22:03] <lj1102> or check chrome://plugins
 my computer sucks and I got rid of my orginal OS
[22:04] <devon> Jebus: Is it better with your new OS?
[22:04] <pfifo> Jebus: how is that stopping you from reinstalling?
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: have you verified the md5 of the iso file? and are you booting from cd or usb?
 my computer is way better with the new OS
[22:05] <wolfspy> hitsujiTMO, I have not verified the md5, as I have no idea how to do that. Im booting from dvd.
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: what OS is on the pc already?
[22:05] <wolfspy> windows 7
[22:06] <pfifo> Jebus: you still havent explained why you cant reinstall.
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, Not sure if this is helpful, but this user has a uefi computer, and supposedly W8 as removed on that install.
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> was*
 I don't know why I can't
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: you can find the md5 sums here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes   how to md5sum the iso here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM     if the md5sum is correct try reburning the dvd as slow as possible
[22:07] <wolfspy> hitsujiTMO, ok
[22:07] <pfifo> Jebus: what happens when you try?
[22:08] <Cheekio> holy moly
[22:08] <wolfspy> hitsujiTMO, What software should I use to burn, you can't select write speeds with the windows disk imager
[22:08] <Cheekio> this wildwind this is way over my head
 It just continues to run as normal as if it won't reinstall
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: imgburn is pretty good
[22:09] <wolfspy> ok
[22:09] <wolfspy> thanks
[22:10] <pfifo> Jebus I think you should try again and pay closer attention to what is going wrong so that I can give you advice on how to get past
 okay  I will be on later, I have to go help my dad
[22:11] <pfifo> Jebus: ok good luck
[22:11] <wolfspy> The MD5 sums are the same
[22:12] <medkom> anyone come frome australia??
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> medkom  what difference does it make?
[22:13] <Esor> Hi
[22:13] <Esor> I need help
[22:13] <Esor> I installed nvidia-prime
[22:13] <Esor> and after I remove it
[22:13] <pfifo> MonkeyDust: obivously austrilian must give better ubuntu support
[22:13] <Esor> I have black screen :(
[22:13] <Esor> *removed
[22:13] <wildwind> Cheekio: i'm afraid it can't be simpler than that
[22:13] <Esor> tried to install bumblebee again
[22:13] <Esor> and it didn
[22:13] <Esor> t help
[22:13] <FloodBot1> Esor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <k1l_> Esor: please dont press enter that much. put all in one line
[22:14] <Esor> sorry k1l_
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> Esor  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights, too
[22:14] <medkom> hi
[22:15] <Esor> do you have any idea how to fix it guys please?
[22:16] <wheatthin> Esor, do you at least get a console prompt?
[22:16] <Cheekio> @wildwind, I think the way sample IP addresses are included is confusing me for some reason. I'll let you know if I get this right.
[22:16] <Esor> yes i switched to alt + f2
[22:16] <Esor> then I logged in and removed nvidia-prime and bumblebee
[22:16] <Cheekio> I'm trying to connect to my raspberry pi over ethernet, as I don't have a spare monitor handy
[22:17] <Cheekio> And the wifi on it isn't set to automatically connect to open networks
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> Cheekio  running ubuntu?
[22:17] <Esor> and I get error massages and black screen. Sorry for using enter too much again.
[22:17] <wheatthin> Esor, for now, you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and scroll down under your driver name and put VESA, get a generic screen
[22:17] <Cheekio> MonkeyDust: I'm running ubuntu on my laptop
[22:17] <Cheekio> Raspbian on the Pi
[22:17] <Esor> ahh right
[22:17] <Esor> the problem with nvidia-prime is
[22:17] <wolfspy> im pretty sure its not the disk. I found another ubuntu disk that worked on my other computer. Same error
[22:17] <Esor> chromium looks like it was lunched by wine
[22:18] <rmobenchain> I hve Ubuntu 13.10, running Chrome but am having issues with Shockwave ...
[22:18] <pfifo> wheatthin: the is no xorg.conf anymore
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> Cheekio  200+ people in #raspbian
[22:18] <wolfspy> wait, think I found the fix
[22:18] <Esor> ah pfifo so what else can i edit?
[22:18] <pfifo> Esor: have you rebooted after doing the uninstall?
[22:18] <Esor> I've just reminded xorg fix from the past but
[22:19] <Esor> yes I did
[22:19] <Cheekio> lol
[22:19] <Esor> tried various fixes
[22:19] <Cheekio> MonkeyDust, I've asked a couple of questions there too
[22:19] <pfifo> Esor: run, 'sudo update-initramfs' and when its finished reboot
[22:19] <koyetsu> stupid question. ubuntu 12.04 LTS 2 NICS eth0 and eth1. eth0 is the inet connected nic dhcp provided ip. eth1 is a static on a seperate switch that has dhcpd bound to it. before setting up eth1 i was able to see the internet, now i cannot. trying to fix that and set routing/forwarding between them. anyone have a good resource they can point me to cause i've not had luck. most say to use the
[22:19] <koyetsu> route add command and it didn't work.
[22:20] <rmobenchain> Is there a ubuntu forum to help with shockwave issues since the upgrade to 13.10?
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Chrome has built in flash, why the shockwave?
[22:20] <Esor> pfifo, thanks I will try. Anyway do you know why after install nvidia-prime chromium looks like was lunched by wine and bunch of error messages?
[22:20] <ikonia> koyetsu: sounds like your default route is screwed
[22:20] <ResQue> MonkeyDust: hey i tried that nomodest idea of yours yesterday (if you recall the live cd would boot to a blank screen) it sort of fixed the issue i get past the splash screen but i dont get any GUI i can get the the shell though TYY1 any ideas
[22:20] <koyetsu> i figured that it's trying to resolve through eth1
[22:21] <ikonia> koyetsu: check the routes to see where traffic should go and where it is going
[22:21] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles ... I'm just repeating what I'm being told on sites with shockwave flash.  Says "Unable to load plugins"
[22:21] <pfifo> Esor: no, havent used a graphic card since my gaming rig died
[22:21] <ikonia> koyetsu: the default route will be key
[22:21] <Esor> pfifo, I will reboot now
[22:22] <koyetsu> when i type route the default line is this "default   ubuntu.local    <IP_ADDRESS>    UG    100    0     0    eth1"
[22:22] <ikonia> kermit: route does not show all routes
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, You may be trying to access sites that just wont work in linux.
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, Any links?
[22:23] <rmobenchain> wilee-niles ... would that include the flash test page?
[22:23] <ikonia> kermit: ubuntu.local is normally the loopback interface
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> rmobenchain, You can tab complete nicks so that they are correct.
[22:25] <wheatthin> Hmm
[22:26] <koyetsu> the other 2 lines have a * where gateway is. but i know i defined the gateway in my /etc/network/interfaces  i'm looking at it now and i have a gateway....errr maybe iu just figured out the problem. would having a gateway defined in both nics cause the problem?
[22:27] <ikonia> koyetsu: that would depend on your network, do you need a gateway for both interfaces, I suspect not, I suspect both devices should NOT have a gateway, but your public internet should have a default route assigned to it
[22:34] <p1und3r> hello all, has anyone had an issue with ubuntu 13.10 using nvidia-current drivers where tty1-6 work but the font is shaking basically
[22:35] <gndlp> howdy all, I am on 13.10 and just installed the amd catalyst drives and xserver is hanging after login. All i am seeing is the background. in my /var/log/Xorg log the last thing i am seeing is fire_gl_SetSuspendResumeState FAILED -9. Not sure if that is normal or not. I am running a XFX 6870.
[22:35] <bunduru> hi
[22:36] <HeathHayle> At lest I get this lol http://d.pr/i/vLQC
[22:36] <reisio> bunduru: hi
[22:37] <HeathHayle> i didnt even think it would go that far lol
[22:37] <ResQue> for 12.04 LTS there was a AMD64 mac addition in alternative downloads, but there is not one in the 13.04 LTS version. will the new 13.04 work on mac???
[22:37] <zykotick9> ResQue: 13.04 is not an LTS... just sayin'
[22:38] <gndlp> any ideas on how to uninstall catalyst from 13.10 so it will roll back to the failsafe drivers?
[22:38] <ResQue> zykotick9: i see, i thought all *.04 where long term versions. is there a reason why?
[22:38] <zykotick9> ResQue: nope.  every 2 years the .04 is LTS
[22:38] <desmosomes> Why is a samba file copy from a Win7 box only executing at 35KB/s?
[22:39] <ResQue> zykotick9: thanks for the heads up. i will stick with the 12.04 version for now then
[22:39] <ResQue> zykotick9: would i be right in thinking *.04 are more stable, but have less bleeeding edge updates?
[22:40] <zykotick9> ResQue: not really... LTS vs non-LTS are both VERY similar IMO!
[22:40] <Kuwait> hi , i have problem , i install windows 8.1 , then install ubuntu 13.10 , both 64 bit , but there are no grup boot loader , only boot windows and didt boot the ubuntu grub boot loader
[22:41] <ResQue> zykotick9: i see, i am having issues boot the new 13.10 version on a macbook pro, i just get a black screen, i added the nomodset boot option and now i get stuck on tty1 with no GUI
[22:41] <desmosomes> The samba share on the Win7 machine is a public folder
[22:41] <lj1102> when i connect a second screen it works for a few seconds and then turns into "no signal" mode and is not displayed in display manager anymore, anyone knows what this is about?
[22:41] <zykotick9> ResQue: sorry, I have no suggestion(s).  Best of luck.
[22:41] <ResQue> zykotick9: thanks
[22:42] <Kuwait> what i mean , boot windows 8 dirctley
[22:43] <desmosomes> If I sync the file with dropbox, I can get a clean 30MB/s
[22:43] <desmosomes> but samba results in 35KB/s
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, This a uefi setup or msdos using the mbr?
[22:46] <keber> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeH2Um-yOrA
[22:46] <keber> hello
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> keber, That is spam.
[22:47] <keber> yes bad joke
[22:47] <keber> sry
[22:47] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee really i dont know what the diff , in the flash memorey there are two option , first UEFI and the second option without UEFI , i install ubuntu by the second option
[22:48] <keber> can you say what music channel is, list is to large?
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, You might try the bootrepair from a live ubuntu dvd/usb to fix the boot, be sure to save the bootinfo summary. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:49] <pfifo> !alis | keber
[22:49] <keber> !alis
[22:49] <pfifo> keber try #defocus they love that kind of stuff
[22:49] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee do u have a tutorial for bootrepair
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, The link tells you what you need to know.
[22:50] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee my bad i didt see it , thanks
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, The maker of the app has a thread on it at the ubuntu forums, if you need their help in the end, heh no problem. ;)
[22:51] <Kuwait> :p ok
[22:53] <wtfak1310> herro
[22:53] <reisio> 'lo
[22:54] <wolfspy_> Hi
[22:54] <pvl1> can anyone please remind me how to run a terminal app on a different vt, something like :&vt7 or :07 was it
[22:54] <wolfspy_> I'm having trouble installing
[22:54] <reisio> pvl1: just use scree
[22:54] <reisio> screen*
[22:54] <keber> are you all billionaires?
[22:55] <wolfspy_> Not me
[22:55] <pvl1> reisio: im trying to fix my fglrx i just installed. i need to make sure that its gnome compatability with lightdm and not fglrx
[22:55] <pfifo> keber: this channel is for ubuntu support topics only please
[22:55] <pvl1> reisio: cuz i switched to lightdm from gdm
[22:55] <wolfspy> ok, let's type with a real keyboard...
[22:56] <wolfspy> im having troubles installing ubuntu 13 from a cd
[22:56] <reisio> wolfspy: what troubles
[22:56] <keber> so what i must do install ubuntu before using your topic
[22:57] <wolfspy> whenever I select an option from the grub thing that opens, it shows this error: http://imgur.com/tGOv3jf then http://imgur.com/FzZ4svO
[22:57] <Zap-W> what X ver is there in ubuntu 13.10
[22:57] <keber> i had ubuntu once, but my wifi dosent work
[22:58] <keber> chinease laptop
[22:58] <minimec> Did we have some complaints about linux-image 3.2.0-56 in combination with GPU in the #channel? I have 'a case' in ubuntu-fr with a strange unity behaviour after a kernel update.
[22:58] <pfifo> wolfspy: your cdrom is broken
[22:58] <wolfspy> i think it isnt
[22:58] <wolfspy> ive tried it with 3 different cd roms, and checked the md5 of all of them
[22:58] <induz> How can I import iPhone3 contacts on my Ubuntu 10?? no iTune or cloud please
[22:58] <bekks> induz: Impossible without iTunes.
[22:58] <Danato> can anybody tell me what scripts are executed at startup on kde and xfce please?
[22:59] <pfifo> wolfspy: did you md5 the iso file or the actual disc?
[22:59] <induz> bekk
[22:59] <induz> bekks: no options
[22:59] <wolfspy> pfifo, the iso. The instructions on how to md5 the disk only work on linux, and I'm on windows
[22:59] <bekks> induz: iTunes is the only option.
[23:00] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: are you there?
[23:00] <induz> i dont have Itunes
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yes i am
[23:00] <induz> bek
[23:00] <bekks> induz: Then you cant access your Contacts.
[23:00] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: can you tell me in what script did you tell me to write the backlight settings again?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > wilee-nilee
[23:00] <pfifo> wolfspy: if im not mistaken, you can check the disk itself on boot, you just have to select it from the options it presents
[23:01] <induz> i have to write down all but its way too may
[23:01] <wolfspy> pfifo, it shows the error when I do that
[23:01] <reisio> wolfspy: http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe
[23:01] <induz> what about Banshee
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > wilee-nilee
[23:01] <pfifo> wolfspy: and you have no way to get to a linux command line?
[23:01] <wolfspy> pfifo, no
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup
[23:02] <pfifo> wolfspy: can you boot any othe linux livecd's?
[23:02] <bekks> induz: Banshee cant access your Contacts. The only option is iTunes.
[23:02] <wolfspy> pfifo, unless I live boot debian
[23:02] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ah thanks man
[23:02] <wolfspy> all the ubuntu based distros don't work
[23:03] <reisio> oh here's a nice Windowsy one: http://www.sinf.gr/en/hashcalc.html
[23:03] <induz> bekks do i have to create an account with iTune
[23:03] <induz> I have never used ITunes
[23:03] <bekks> induz: You have to have an iTunes account, yes.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[23:03] <wolfspy> pfifo, will running within virtualbox work as a linux command line?
[23:03] <induz> is it free bekks
[23:03] <reisio> wolfspy: yeah, but that sounds involved
[23:03] <bekks> induz: Yes.
[23:03] <pfifo> wolfspy: ok thats a start, if you have a USB disk handy you can boot debain and use it to put together a liveusb
[23:03] <wolfspy> wilee-nilee, Using those instructions, you cannot check the md5 of a disk with windwos
[23:04] <bekks> induz: And technically, you already have one, since you have an iPhone.
[23:04] <pfifo> wolfspy: I think virtualbox allows access to a physical CDROM
[23:04] <induz> it is on UBuntu too or I have to get mackbook or
[23:04] <wolfspy> pfifo, I already have a ubuntu installation in virtualbox, can I just use that
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, Really, many have.
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: try looking further down the pagew to with checking the md5sum on windows section
[23:04] <FroggestSpirit> I need some help here
[23:04] <bekks> induz: Without an iTunes account, you cant initialize your iPhone.
[23:04] <wolfspy> wilee-nilee, really
[23:04] <wtfak1310> hey
[23:04] <wtfak1310> hey
[23:04] <pfifo> wolfspy: fire up your vbox and set the cdrom drive to the physical cdrom, then `md5sum /dev/cdrom` to check the disk(s)
[23:05] <induz> bekks within the iTunes on iPhone, how can i use it...the iPhone is not active. It used to be
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, use the vm though if you can, but the instructions are there and clear in using windows.
[23:05] <FroggestSpirit> does anyone else have an issue with suspend?
[23:05] <wolfspy> wtfak1310, hey
[23:05] <wtfak1310> hi wolf
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | FroggestSpirit
[23:05] <wtfak1310> hey guys, whats the differnce between Suspend, Standby, and Hibernate on Xubuntu?
[23:05] <wolfspy> wilee-nilee, im trying to check the md5 of the DISK, not the ISO file
[23:05] <bekks> induz: thats really not a subject for this channel. There is #itunes I guess.
[23:06] <induz> bekks ok
[23:06] <Bauer> guys, in Saucy, it stopped recognizing my Android phone - not mounting as USB drive anymore, while it works in Windows using the same USB cable. any ideas what could be the cause?
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, Ah, you loose the ISO?
[23:06] <FroggestSpirit> I'm running ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop (toshiba satellite) and the 64-bit version. When I close the lid, it suspends, then after opening it, the fan turns off.
[23:06] <reisio> wtfak1310: it depends on what your hardware thinks those are
[23:06] <reisio> wtfak1310: you basically have to use trial and error
[23:07] <FroggestSpirit> after about a minute, the fan turns on full blast, and it no longer suspends when closing the lid.
[23:07] <wolfspy> wilee-nilee, I want to make sure it was written correctly
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> wolfspy, Sorry to interject you have plenty of help. ;)
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: ahh in that case: http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/
[23:07] <wtfak1310> i see, well its wierd in power manager, On AC it has option to Hibernate, On Battery it doesnt
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> FroggestSpirit: can you pastebin your dmesg and syslog from after the initial suspension
[23:09] <pfifo> wtfak1310: ubuntu has basically dropped all support for hibernation, xubuntu and lubuntu still show the options though.
[23:09] <wtfak1310> thanks
[23:09] <FroggestSpirit> hitsujiTMO: How do I do that? I'm on windows right now, so I'll have to reboot
[23:09] <bekks> pfifo: Thats nonsense.
[23:10] <bekks> pfifo: Ubuntu hasnt dropped support for that.
[23:10] <wolfspy> umm, how do I cd to the cdrom with terminal
[23:10] <wtfak1310> Does anyone have issues with remapping keys in 13.10? I'm using the settings Editor isntead of keyboars shortcuts, and it's not too straight forward
[23:11] <wolfspy> I can go to it in natalius, so it's mounted
[23:11] <pfifo> bekks: well its disabled by default (though still supported of course)
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> FroggestSpirit: install pastebinit and you can grab them easily then. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:11] <bekks> pfifo: Thats far from "dropped support".
[23:11] <pfifo> basicly dropped support
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: its disabled by defualt ONLY if you have non certified hardware
[23:12] <bekks> pfifo: Not even partially. "disabled by default on non certified hardware" still means "fully supported".
[23:12] <FroggestSpirit> hitsujiTMO: I have to reboot into ubuntu now, but if it's just a file, i could navigate to it, and paste the contents
[23:12] <pfifo> bekks: ok whatever
[23:13] <wolfspy> umm, how do I cd to the cdrom with terminal
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> FroggestSpirit: you will need to do it after you suspend and come back. its 2 things a file /var/log/syslog and the output of the command dmesg
[23:13] <pfifo> wolfspy: it must be mounted first, but you dont need todo that to run an md5sum
[23:13] <wolfspy> pfifo, it says you need to be in the same directory as the md5sum.txt file on the cd rom
[23:14] <wolfspy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[23:14] <wtfak1310> anyones amixer not work right? amixer -q set Master toggle
[23:14] <wolfspy> pfifo, when I type cd /cdrom, it works, but after that when I type ls it dosen';t show any files
[23:14] <wtfak1310> doesnt toggle, lol
[23:14] <pfifo> wolfspy: do this instead 'md5sum /dev/cdrom'
[23:15] <wolfspy> pfifo, thanks, I assume it will take a while
[23:16] <pfifo> wolfspy: its not that big, but youll have to wait a min
[23:16] <minas> I am connected to a wired network and I want to use my laptop as a hotspot, so my mobile can connect to the internet. I went to netowrk settings and clicked the "use as hotspot..." option. The hotspot was created and my laptop was successfully connected to it, but my mobile can't find it. Am I doing something wrong?
[23:16] <duhamel> hello all, I am wondering how to change a folders icon and make it  stick, even from one ubuntu machine to another.
[23:17] <wolfspy> pfifo, it will probably take longer, bacause of virtualbox
[23:18] <wolfspy> lol, just finished
[23:18] <wolfspy> pfifo, do I just compare the md5sums manually?
[23:18] <duhamel> is there a script similar to windows autorun.inf i could run that would tell ubuntu to use an icon on a thumbdrive as the icon for that thumbdrive
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> wolfspy: just compare the first 8 digits, that should be enough
[23:18] <kyloth> hey guys would this be the right channel to ask questions about an external hdd i just got. its a 218 toshiba laptop drive and i got the sata converter, its mid format right now, but what i wanted to ask about was....
[23:18] <pfifo> wolfspy: wait, im looking at that document, and it brought up a good point, the md5sum produced from that wont match anyway
[23:19] <wolfspy> pfifo, oh
[23:19] <Richhh> sorry if off-topic, just installed lubuntu (hoorah!) and vim, cant switch modes in vim, its entering ^[ when i press c-[ or esc
[23:19] <kyloth> if anyone could help me partiion it to run a 90gig windows xp partition alongside 2 linux partitions one fedora one ubuntu
[23:19] <kyloth> ive ran dual boots before but never from an external hdd and never more than 2 os simultanious
[23:20] <pfifo> wolfspy: you need to 'sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom' to follow the instructions to check the files on the cd
[23:20] <wolfspy> pfifo, is it bad if they do match, bacause they do
[23:20] <duhamel> kyloth: install windows xp on the harddrive then install ubuntu on it.
[23:20] <pfifo> wolfspy: it say 'will almost never match'
[23:21] <wolfspy> pfifo, well, I guess this is a rare occasion
[23:21] <kyloth> if i install windows first will it auto make the partition for all 200ggis tho and will ubuntu's gparted have what i need to run xp and fedora alongside it
[23:21] <pfifo> wolfspy: so the md5sum of /dev/cdrom matches the md5 of the iso and matche the one listed in the downloads page?
[23:21] <wolfspy> pfifo, yep
[23:21] <pfifo> wolfspy: and you get the error posted in the imagebin?
[23:22] <wolfspy> pfifo, yes
[23:22] <duhamel> kyloth: yeah, when running the live linux shrink the windows os partition with gparted.
[23:22] <pfifo> wolfspy: can you boot the vm with that CD?
[23:22] <wolfspy> pfifo, ill try
[23:22] <wildwind> kyloth: xp installation allows you to select/create partitions. also you can partition the drive as needed beforehand
[23:23] <kyloth> if windows is installed before linux and then i install ubuntu and use gparted to shrink the windows side couldent i possibly damage my windows os?
[23:23] <vr2mx> hello
[23:23] <kyloth> thanks wildwind that was my biggest worry
[23:23] <keber> how to see channel list?
[23:23] <duhamel> kyloth: then when installing linux choose the"something different" option and partiytion the unallocated space with for your install.
[23:23] <wolfspy> pfifo, nope, because I dont have the right values for virtualizing amd64 in my bios
[23:23] <kyloth> next question, can i install these os's to this hdd without booting the system im using from the hdd
[23:23] <pfifo> !alis | keber
[23:24] <kyloth> thanks soo much for the help guys
[23:24] <kyloth> like i said ive ran dual boots before and ive imaged systems before just never more than 2 os's at a time and never on an external drive
[23:24] <Bauer> guys, in Saucy, it stopped recognizing my Android phone - not mounting as USB drive anymore, while it works in Windows using the same USB cable. any ideas what could be the cause?
[23:25] <pfifo> wolfspy: ok, does it always fail to read that same sector 0x69c00
[23:25] <duhamel> kyloth: are you implying you have an os on the machine and then the two os on the hdd? if so you can select from bootmenu or bios which will boot.
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> kyloth, What windows release?
[23:25] <wolfspy> pfifo, yes, and it happens with mint too
[23:25] <pfifo> wolfspy: are you using BIOS or UEFI?
[23:25] <wolfspy> pfifo, bios
[23:25] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee , will i try it , same nothing happen
[23:25] <wildwind> kyloth: plan all your partitions, make them with gparted, install win, install others
[23:25] <kyloth> im using ym friends computer which is running windows 7 to image my external hdd i dont want to risk damaging anything on her system while doing this to my drive
[23:25] <kyloth> thanks wildwind
[23:25] <pfifo> wolfspy: is this a usb, pata or sata drive?
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, You save the bootinfo summary?
[23:26] <kyloth> its a 218 toshiba laptop hdd inside of a 2.5in sata to usb converter casing
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> kyloth, Use the windows partitioner to resize it.
[23:26] <duhamel> kyloth: maybe use a live distro on usb to do all the partitioning so that you can easily see exactly whaT IS GOING ON WITH THE PARTITIONS.
[23:26] <wolfspy> pfifo, how do you check?
[23:26] <kyloth> the sata converter just came in the mail today so im also kinda excited to use this
[23:27] <duhamel> sorry. i tapped caplock
[23:27] <Cheekio> I love guides that include mystery variables
[23:27] <duhamel> hello all, I am wondering how to change a folders icon and make it  stick, even from one ubuntu machine to another.
[23:27] <duhamel> is there a script similar to windows autorun.inf i could run that would tell ubuntu to use an icon on a thumbdrive as the icon for that thumbdrive
[23:27] <zykotick9> wolfspy: cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(vmx|svm)'
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, Link?
[23:27] <Cheekio> http://www.yourownlinux.com/2013/07/how-to-configure-ubuntu-as-router.html
[23:28] <wolfspy> zykotick9, im not in linux
[23:28] <kyloth> duhamel i was attempting to install these os's to my hdd without turning my hdd into a live boot disk unless neccessary. i have a live boot tyhumb drive but i have all three os's already downloaded to my friends system and unetbootin
[23:28] <zykotick9> wolfspy: i have no clue then...
[23:28] <Cheekio> @wilee-nilee: "This experiment was performed in the college campus and the gateway <IP_ADDRESS> was located between the Switch and Host A."
[23:28] <kyloth> and how do i highlight the names of the people im talking to so im not just sending black text
[23:28] <pfifo> wolfspy: well if its usb it would be external and plugged into a usb port, otherwise on bootup youll see it listed when your bios detectes it and it will sat pata or sata... also its impossible for it to be an sata drive if your computer dosent support sata so :)
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, That's in a reply.
[23:29] <kyloth> wolfspy... its a laptop hdd that was pulled from a broken motherboard. the hdd still works fine. i went online and spent 10 bucks on a sata to usb converter cable and casing for it. now im running it as a portable usb hdd
[23:29] <duhamel> kyloth: i understand, and that shopuldn't be a problem. i just find it much easier to deal with partitions and stuff from a live linux.
[23:29] <Cheekio> Yeah, but the lack of documentation on what <IP_ADDRESS> is vs <IP_ADDRESS> obfuscates the whole article
[23:30] <Cheekio> is <IP_ADDRESS> the external address of the host?
[23:30] <wolfspy> pfifo, its sata
[23:30] <Cheekio> It's obviously not an address registered with any DNS I know of
[23:30] <wolfspy> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Western-Digital-WD3200BPVT-24ZEST0-DCM-HHMTJAB-320gb-Sata-Hard-Drive-/360585775518?pt=US_Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item53f496499e
[23:30] <duhamel> install to the hdd as any normal install with the windows install first then the Linux install
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, What your trying to do in general is not gui click and it just works task, you have to have some knowledge and or the ability to find the answers.
[23:31] <duhamel> hello all, I am wondering how to change a folders icon and make it  stick, even from one ubuntu machine to another.
[23:31] <kyloth> i agree duhamel thats why i was confused when i was told to put windows on it first i figured gparted would be what i needed i jsut wanted to make sure i wasnt going have have any unforseen kinks because ive never done more than 2 os's on one hdd before and this one i wanted to try three os's that i can boot from as i wish regardless of who's system i am plugged into
[23:31] <duhamel> is there a script similar to windows autorun.inf i could run that would tell ubuntu to use an icon on a thumbdrive as the icon for that thumbdrive
[23:31] <Cheekio> wilee-nilee, I'm not saying the task should be easier, I'm saying isn't it great when articles don't include necessary information
[23:32] <duhamel> Kyloth. the xternal hdd will only work on the mavchine they were install with. they will not work from
[23:32] <duhamel> machine to machine
[23:32] <Lockzi> Hello - Is it possible to mount an NFS share and have it "fake" uid and gid that's stored on the server since that the client and user does not have the same information?
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, Heh, a random article, and your complaining, its the web man. ;)
[23:32] <kyloth> my uncle boots his os on other peoples machines all the time, he doesnt even own a computer he just has a hard drive that he boots from
[23:32] <pfifo> wolfspy: I think you should try booting with 'waitusb=10' in you kernel arguments
[23:32] <duhamel> kyloth: only live distros work from machine  to machine.
[23:33] <kyloth> ill remember that duhamel
[23:33] <wolfspy> pfifo, How do you do that
[23:33] <duhamel> kyloth: not windows. once it is installed it only works on that hardware
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, YOur trying to make your computer into a router right?
[23:33] <kyloth> anyway thanks for the info guy i think i got what i need ( uncle runs linux only he is a fedora guy)
[23:33] <duhamel> you can't even change a motherboard on a windows install
[23:34] <pfifo> wolfspy: its been years since ive had to boot from a cd, im not sure with the newer releases, let me ask google
[23:34] <duhamel> hello all, I am wondering how to change a folders icon and make it  stick, even from one ubuntu machine to another.
[23:34] <duhamel> is there a script similar to windows autorun.inf i could run that would tell ubuntu to use an icon on a thumbdrive as the icon for that thumbdrive
[23:35] <wildwind> Cheekio: the addresses are explained in the summary part. but yes, they are somewhat misleading. <IP_ADDRESS>/24 addresses are used for local networks
[23:35] <wolfspy> duhamel, I think autorun.inf works on ubuntu
[23:36] <bekks> wolfspy: It doesnt. Thats a windows invention.
[23:36] <pfifo> wolfspy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> Cheekio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[23:37] <duhamel> wolfspy: i didn't try but that seems unlikely to me.
[23:37] <Cheekio> I'm trying to plug a device into my ethernet port that I have no other tools to connect to
[23:37] <Cheekio> if I'm the gateway, I can just ssh into it
[23:37] <Cheekio> but right now it won't automatically connect to a wifi network, it has no head/keyboard/mouse
[23:38] <Cheekio> I just need my laptop to play gateway and it to assign the device an ip address it can ssh into.
[23:38] <wolfspy_> pfifo: can you say the boot option again? I'm on my phone now
[23:39] <SlutaTramsa> I've got a problem. I'm on ubuntu 13.10 and when I try to login the DE (XFCE) crashes and i'm instantly brought back to the login screen, any idea on what to do/what logs i should look in?
[23:39] <wildwind> Cheekio: oh, it's a slightly different task :) you need a dhcp server.
[23:39] <duhamel> is there a way to  get a script on a thumb drive to run automatically from a thumbdrive from machine to machine
[23:40] <duhamel> is there a way to  get a script on a thumb drive to run automatically from machine to machine
[23:40] <Danato> whats xfce display manager?
[23:40] <domdom> Hello World!
[23:40] <wolfspy_> F6 dosent do anything...
[23:40] <wildwind> Cheekio: dnsmasq is an example of
[23:40] <zykotick9> SlutaTramsa: log in via console (ctrl+alt+f1) and "ls -l" in your home dirctory.  are any of the files owned by root?  if they are, that might be the issue!
[23:40] <domdom> xfce display manager?
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, What are you trying to run on the thumb?
[23:40] <Cheekio> @wildwind, apt-get hooked me up with dnsmasq
[23:41] <zykotick9> SlutaTramsa: sorry use "ls -al"
[23:41] <duhamel> i just want to assign an icon to a folder or script and have it stick even from machine to machine.
[23:41] <SlutaTramsa> zykotick9: .gvfs, .Xauthority & .wine is
[23:41] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: i just want to assign an icon to a folder or script and have it stick even from machine to machine.
[23:42] <domdom> dnsmasq: Small caching DNS proxy and DHCP/TFTP server
[23:42] <domdom>  Dnsmasq is a lightweight, easy to configure, DNS forwarder and DHCP
[23:42] <domdom>  server. It is designed to provide DNS and optionally, DHCP, to a
[23:42] <domdom>  small network. It can serve the names of local machines which are
[23:42] <domdom>  not in the global DNS. The DHCP server integrates with the DNS
[23:42] <domdom>  server and allows machines with DHCP-allocated addresses
[23:42] <FloodBot1> domdom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <domdom>  to appear in the DNS with names configured either in each host or
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, what is the script?
[23:42] <zykotick9> SlutaTramsa: STOP using "sudo" with GUI applications!!! see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details!  change those to the right owner, especially .Xauthority!
[23:42] <Cheekio> woah, Floodbot does not play around.
[23:42] <SlutaTramsa> zykotick9: alright, thanks
[23:43] <Danato> domdom: ddnt really mean xfce display manager, but i meant how its directory, like kdm is for kde
[23:43] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: i was hoping to use a script similar to windows autorun.inf to make the icons stick.
[23:43] <Cheekio> domdom, are you a real person?
[23:43] <wildwind> Cheekio: you don't need all that routing stuff from the guide just to connect to one device
[23:43] <Cheekio> great!
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, I have to admit here that I wonder if your script is up to no good. ;)
[23:44] <jimgroth> Hey guys. I'm logged in to a ubuntu server box. Put the session to sleep and woke it up today. Now it won't accept my password. Any ideas what to do?
[23:44] <pfifo> wolfspy_: usbwait=10
[23:44] <Cheekio> I suppose I should be looking into dnsmasq to see if it does what I want
[23:44] <pfifo> jimgroth: reboot
[23:45] <jimgroth> won't that remove any chance I have of correcting anything while logged in?
[23:45] <wtfak1310> Where can I get pwmconfig?
[23:45] <wtfak1310> i cant aptget it, lol
[23:45] <wtfak1310> its not part of 13.1- for some reason
[23:45] <pfifo> jimgroth: can you ssh in?
[23:45] <Cheekio> alright, doing to flush my iptables via reboot, who knows what gunk I've put in there today
[23:45] <MonkeyDu1t> !find pwm
[23:46] <Cheekio> brb
[23:46] <wolfspy_> pfifo: f6 doorbell
[23:46] <wolfspy_> pfifo: f6 doesn't do anything *
[23:46] <pfifo> wolfspy_: i noticed those instructions are for 10.04
[23:46] <jimgroth> pfifo: Yes! Weird! :S
[23:46] <wildwind> Cheekio: it can respond to dhcp requests and give ip addresses. and serve as dns proxy server. not sure if this is what you want
[23:47] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: nothing like that at all. i have set up a folder for  a newb friend of mine that installs ps3 controller drivers and a nes emulator. i don't necessarily need a autorun script, i just want the assign the icons so hius kids will be able  to run the right scripts easily.
[23:47] <pfifo> wolfspy_: non the less, take a look at what options you are presented with
[23:47] <FroggestSpirit> i'm back
[23:47] <pfifo> jimgroth: reboot from ssh
[23:47] <jimgroth> ok
[23:47] <duhamel> all i want is to make the icons stick from machine to machine.
[23:47] <wolfspy_> pfifo: e for commands before booting and c for console
[23:48] <pfifo> wolfspy_: ohh thats grub! press e
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, Not sure to be honest, to link an icon to what I assume is a bash if this is linux, sorry.
[23:49] <FroggestSpirit> Who was helping me with the suspend issue? I paste bin'ed the log
[23:49] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: you need to give the helper/channel the link to your paste!
[23:49] <jimgroth> pfifo, thanks. Glad it was that easy. :)
[23:49] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: even if i could just change the folder icon and have it stick that would be cool.
[23:50] <FroggestSpirit> zykotick9: helper/channel?
[23:50] <jimgroth> wouldn't have thought to log in via ssh since local didn't work
[23:50] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: the person who was helping your / or this channel.
[23:51] <wildwind> duhamel: check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/183097/where-is-nautilus-icon-file-located-and-how-is-it-chosen
[23:51] <FroggestSpirit> i dont remember the name
[23:51] <Cheekio> @wildwind, as long as it can tell this raspberrypi connected to my ethernet port that it has an ip address, and then allow me to send ssh commands over that cable, I'll be good.
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, Right click folder properties then click the folder icon to change it, but having it run not sure, unless just clicking it runs it.
[23:51] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: so just post the link then, and hope for the best.
[23:51] <FroggestSpirit> http://hastebin.com/xedajakoci.coffee
[23:51] <zykotick9> is hastebin.com an actual site?
[23:52] <FroggestSpirit> yes
[23:52] <wildwind> Cheekio: doesn't it have a default ip address?
[23:53] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: yeah that only works until nautilus resets. after reboot the icon is a blank sheet. i have put the icon in the root of folder as a hidden file.
[23:53] <Cheekio> No, it's not connected to a network
[23:53] <Danato> what would be the equivalent of /etc/kde4/kdm on xubuntu?
[23:53] <Kuwait> after install ubuntu with pre installed windows 8 , no bootloader , info: windows 8.1 , ubuntu 13.10 both 64 bit
[23:53] <Cheekio> It's basically alone in the world waiting to be told what to do
[23:53] <Cheekio> the only computer it can talk to is my laptop.
[23:53] <SlutaTramsa> zykotick9: That kinda worked, but only with gnome flashback. When I try to login with xfce it all get white. Any idea on that?
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, Yeah does not stay the same across computers with the icons as well, not really an area I at all familiar with.
[23:53] <PDilyard> is/was anyone else getting slow menu bar performance in ubuntu 13.10 with unity? (im talking about File, Edit, etc)
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> I'm*
[23:54] <Cheekio> It's probably been waiting this whole time for my laptop to assign it an ip address
[23:54] <zykotick9> SlutaTramsa: sorry, no clue.  best of luck.
[23:54] <Kuwait> wilee-nilee yes nothing happen :(
[23:54] <Cheekio> but my laptop is also looking to get an IP address for its ethernet port.
[23:54] <SlutaTramsa> zykotick9: Alright, thanks
[23:54] <SlutaTramsa> Anyone else here with a clue?
[23:54] <wildwind> Cheekio: what firmware is on pi?
[23:54] <Cheekio> I mean, if you plug two computers together via ethernet, they don't just start talking, do they?
[23:54] <Cheekio> wildwind: raspbian
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> Kuwait, That bootinfo summary is the key for many to actually diagnose the problem.
[23:54] <FroggestSpirit> zykotick9: any idea why suspend isnt working after?
[23:55] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: that's okay. you have helped me out many times. thanks anyway.
[23:55] <wolfspy_> pfifo: do I add another boot value in another line m
[23:55] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: suspend or hybernate?  either way, no i don't... best of luck.
[23:55] <Cheekio> I don't know if that's the firmware. I got the most recent NOOBS and installed raspbian via its bootstrapper
[23:55] <FroggestSpirit> suspend
[23:55] <zykotick9> FroggestSpirit: suspend has a MUCH high chance of working BTW
[23:56] <Danato> can anybody tell what would be the equivalent of /etc/kde4/kdm on xubuntu?
[23:56] <pfifo> wolfspy_: no, the line that starts with 'kernel' ends with -- (its likely split over several lines) just tack on a usbwait=10 after the --
[23:56] <wildwind> Cheekio: on low ethernet level they do. but on ip level and higher not
[23:56] <pfifo> wolfspy_: then ctrl+x to boot
[23:57] <FroggestSpirit> well, suspend works the first time when i boot ubuntu and close the lid. then after logging back in after opening the lid, my fan goes silent, and then goes full blast after a minute, and closing the lid doesnt suspend anymore until i reboot
[23:57] <zykotick9> wildwind: does ubuntu even run on the pi?
[23:57] <wildwind> Ubuntu not AFAIK
[23:57] <zykotick9> wildwind: so, why are you supporting it in #ubuntu then?
[23:58] <wolfspy_> pfifo: same error
[23:58] <Cheekio> He's not supporting the pi
[23:58] <wildwind> i'm not, just curious
[23:58] <Cheekio> I'm trying to get my ubuntu laptop to do something, well within the bounds of what ubuntu can do.
[23:59] <Cheekio> zykotick9, read the logs if you want to know what's being discussed.


[06:23] <Kilos> o/
[07:38] <nhaines> Thanks for the RSVPs, guys!
[07:41] <dholbach> good morning
[07:45] <nhaines> dholbach: good morning!
[07:46] <dholbach> hi nhaines
[07:46] <nhaines> dholbach: I'm coming to the slow realization that at some point I might actually have to create slides for some of my talks at SCALE.  :)
[07:47] <dholbach> that might be necessary, yes
[08:00] <svij> nhaines: thanks for the reminder, me too :D
[08:04] <svij> damn, we'll all meet in a week already!
[08:05] <dholbach> yeehaw :)
[08:06] <dholbach> can't wait!
[08:07] <nhaines> Yes, in 8 hours I have an UbuCon planning meeting and then... if there's anything we must discuss again next week, we'll just get together and talk about it!
[08:07] <nhaines> Oh, in 10 hours, which is better.  :)
[08:10] <svij> nhaines: be sure that your German will be perfect in a week :P
[08:12] <dholbach> svij: you're a bit of a troll :-P
[08:12] <svij> dholbach: I sometimes talk to nhaines on telegram only in german. Sometimes I forgot that he's not german. :)
[08:12] <nhaines> svij: oh sure, my translator arrives Friday night.  :)
[08:13] <nhaines> Hopefully in time for Bad Voltage live!
[08:13] <svij> too bad the social event on thursday conflicts with jono and co. Talk and "Linux sucks"
[08:14] <nhaines> Does it?
[08:14] <svij> yep
[08:14] <svij> https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/schedule/thursday
[08:14] <svij> social even is on 19:00?
[08:14] <svij> event*
[08:15] <nhaines> Well then, I'll just hold your drink tickets for you...
[08:17] <svij> we'll see
[10:52] <arno__> hallo
[10:54] <arno__> ..quit
[11:41] <tsimonq2> nhaines: a note for the future, plan it for a weekend next time so I can go :D :P
[11:41] <tsimonq2> or I have the *possibility* of going
[18:00] <nhaines> tsimonq2: there's always SCALE!  :D
[21:09] <tsimonq2> nhaines: but but but...UbuCon!


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