[17:41] <draik_> Another thing too is that my HDD is 1TB. It's only reading as ~300GB, which was the partition size when it was on my 500GB.
[17:42] <fosco__> draik_, df -h will show the detected partition sizes
[17:42] <draik_> Right. That's where I see it
[17:43] <fosco__> the size shown there is the right size of the partition
[17:43] <draik_> Hmmm
[17:43] <draik_> I'll have to see a way of fixing this.
[17:43] <draik_> :(
[17:43] <draik_> No booting, I'm in initramfs
[17:44] <Fernandooo> hi where i can get a file with soruces for apt ?
[17:45] <draik_> !source-o-matic
[17:45] <Kubuser> Hi all, I'm running kubuntu 8.10 with the kde 4.2 packages from ppa experimental. Should I be able to move panel widgets around?
[17:46] <Kubuser> I have to ask because this operation so far eludes me :(
[17:46] <Tm_T> Kubuser: yes, after you go to config "mode"
[17:47] <Tm_T> Kubuser: click that cashew in edge of panel
[17:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Kubuser: ah from git.. I may wait for release
[17:47] <Paddy_EIRE> wthanks anyhow
[17:47] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[17:47] <Kubuser> Tm_T, Ah!
[17:47] <Kubuser> Tm_T, thanks :)
[17:48] <Kubuser> Paddy_EIRE, yep I couldn't wait :)
[17:48] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[17:50] <draik_> Well, I have to go to work soon. kuaera & fosco__, thanks for your help. Now I know it's deeper than WM and I need to check on my partition, too.
[18:11] <jals> i have a question about K3b and ripping cds, is there a more appropriate channel to ask in than here?
[18:12] <abdulmalik> اهلا
[18:13] <mefisto__> !ar
[18:13] <mefisto__> no
[18:13] <DaSkreech> !arabic
[18:13] <DaSkreech> jals: Here is fine. #kde will work as well
[18:14] <jals> ok, i'm attempting to rip to mp3, and it basically works, but the LAME flags i set seem to be being ignored to an extent
[18:15] <jals> even using -V 0 i still end up with certain songs being no better than 128kbps
[18:16] <loerber> yello
[18:17] <ockonal_> hi
[18:18] <moot> hiya everyone
[18:18] <moot> i'm tring to do a try boot
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Ohh there is a #k3b channel :)
[18:19] <DaSkreech> Hmm that's kinda strange it should just pass the lame optons
[18:19] <DaSkreech> !hi
[18:19] <Mew-Chan> i'm tring to do a trible boot
[18:19] <Mew-Chan> can anyone here help?
[18:20] <jals> are you having problems
[18:21] <DaSkreech> Mew-Chan: Between what?
[18:21] <Mew-Chan> sabayon
[18:22] <Mew-Chan> kbuntu
[18:22] <Mew-Chan> kubuntu*
[18:22] <Mew-Chan> and vista(gotta have my games)
[18:23] <DaSkreech> Install vista first then probably Kubuntu and sabayon
[18:24] <DaSkreech> It will sort out the booting for you
[18:24] <Mew-Chan> well i already hava vista and sabayon i just wanted to make sure i wouldn't crash my sys by trying to install kubuntu
[18:26] <DaSkreech> You shouldn't as long as you have the partitions set up
[18:36] <shoulah> after i install kde 4.2 i shutdown my pc the when i boot it up again asked me for passs then login to black screen with center mouse pointer how can i solve this?
[18:37] <DaSkreech> shoulah: Hmm try moving out your plasma configs
[18:37] <shoulah> how can i
[18:37] <shoulah> ?
[18:37] <DaSkreech> before you login jump to a VT and mkdir plasmabkup && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* plasmabkup
[18:37] <DaSkreech> Then login
[18:38] <shoulah> ok i will try
[18:40] <lacitcarp> hi - how do I prevent Amarok from being loaded automatically at start-up?
[18:49] <blackmoon> hi, i'm unable to load kde4 (the splash screen is locke at 3rd icon), can you help me?
[18:50] <shoulah> DaSkreech: didn't helped at all
[18:51] <hdxx> blackmoon, try to reset computer, worked for me
[18:51] <shoulah> first no such directory plasmabkup
[18:51] <shoulah> then  i remove the ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* with sudo
[18:52] <DaSkreech> shoulah: The first part of hte command is mkdir plasmabkup
[18:52] <DaSkreech> but fine
[18:52] <DaSkreech> Works the same way
[18:53] <shoulah> didn't work
[18:53] <shoulah> have i reinstall the system
[18:53] <shoulah> :(
[18:54] <shoulah> DaSkreech: have i reinstall the system?
[18:54] <DaSkreech> No I doubt it
[18:55] <shoulah> :( how can i uninstall it kde 4.2
[18:56] <shoulah> DaSkreech: how can i uninstall it kde 4.2
[18:56] <DaSkreech> shoulah: try just mv ~/.kde ~/kdebkup
[18:57] <shoulah> ok
[18:57] <shoulah> with sudo
[18:57] <shoulah> ?
[18:57] <shoulah> DaSkreech: with sudo
[18:57] <DaSkreech> No need for sudo
[18:57] <DaSkreech> You own that directory
[18:58] <shoulah> ok
[19:02] <shoulah> DaSkreech: no way
[19:02] <DaSkreech> Really?
[19:02] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[19:02] <shoulah> black screen with mouse pointer
[19:03] <DaSkreech> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:03] <shoulah> ok
[19:03] <shoulah> i will do
[19:03] <BillyBunter> hi
[19:04] <BillyBunter> I'm using kubuntu8.10. I have it booting into a console. when I use startx kde has no sound. anyone know how to fix it ?
[19:06] <DaSkreech> Start kmix?
[19:08] <mefisto__> in systemsettings>session manager, there is "applications to be excluded from sessions".  where is that info stored? how would I exclude apps from sessions in terminal?
[19:09] <DaSkreech> in ~/.kde/share I would assume
[19:13] <BillyBunter> DaSkreech, kmix opens without any mixer things in it. and everything complains about there being no sound device.
[19:13] <BillyBunter> its as if it is locked into the first tty only
[19:14] <DaSkreech> BillyBunter: sudo lshw -C Multimedia
[19:14] <BillyBunter> and you need to use sudo to get any access to the sound device
[19:14] <BillyBunter> 1 sec
[19:14] <BillyBunter> u want all that information ?
[19:15] <BillyBunter> oops
[19:16] <DaSkreech> !paste
[19:16] <BillyBunter> kk
[19:17] <BillyBunter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119780/
[19:18] <DaSkreech> !sound | BillyBunter
[19:18] <lupine_85> allo allo
[19:19] <lupine_85> I'm assuming you guys know that:  files list file for package `libcaptury0' contains empty filename
[19:19] <lupine_85> ?
[19:19] <Dillizar> does splash screens from KDE work on GNOME
[19:19] <lupine_85> it kind of breaks all updates
[19:20] <BillyBunter> DaSkreech: in the system settings / sound. there is no option to start stop the sound system that i can see. not like in 3.5's kcontrol
[19:20] <DaSkreech> BillyBunter: Sorry that's only KDE3
[19:20] <BillyBunter> ya
[19:20] <shoulah> DaSkreech: thank u sir there were some packages didn't installed
[19:20] <DaSkreech> shoulah: yeah that's the only explanation. Are you ok now?
[19:20] <shoulah> sudo apt-get -f install solved it
[19:20] <lupine_85> ...holy crap, check out /var/lib/dpkg/info$ libcaptury0.list
[19:21] <lupine_85> ...holy crap, check out /var/lib/dpkg/info/libcaptury0.list
[19:21] <shoulah> yes sir
[19:21] <koperton> rude
[19:21] <koperton> !rude
[19:21] <DaSkreech> !info libcaptury0
[19:21] <Dillizar> does splash screens from KDE work on GNOME
[19:21] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: Take it up in #ubuntu-devel
[19:21] <DaSkreech> Dillizar: Doubtful
[19:21] <shoulah> bye
[19:22] <Dillizar> DaSkreech, what is the worst can happen :D
[19:22] <DaSkreech> They don't show
[19:22] <Dillizar> lemme try ;)
[19:24] <Bugs_BunnyBR> someone here had problems with the nvidia card after the update to install kde4.2 (by the repository )  in the kubuntu 8.10 ??
[19:25] <martijn81> Bugs_BunnyBR: yeah, me the nvidia driver does not work anymore
[19:25] <cinex> ok
[19:26] <cinex> ck-launch-session startkde complained about $DISPLAY not being set and ck-launch-session startx has the smae pronblem
[19:30] <drostie> What do I do if I want to add an InputDevice to my xorg.conf, but the file has no ServerLayout section? Is there some place that lists the defaults that X uses when these sections go unspecified? (My keyboard and mouse also don't have explicit listings in xorg.conf.)
[19:32] <ockonal_> drostie: try to add it
[19:32] <Bugs_BunnyBR> did you got fix the problem with your nvidia card?
[19:33] <Bugs_BunnyBR> martijn81:did you got fix the problem with your nvidia card?
[19:34] <drostie> ockonal_: I've tried just adding a ServerLayout with only the three InputDevices for my stylus, but that hasn't worked out so well. (Instead of X starting, I get bumped to a tty console.)
[19:36] <drostie> actually, what would also help just as much: where does X log its errors to? If it's failing to start, there must be some record.
[19:42] <DaSkreech> in /var/log like all daemons
[19:45] <drostie> Ah, it has a capital X, which was why my find wasn't finding it. ^_^;;
[19:45] <DaSkreech> ^_^
[19:48] <Viking667> ... oops. Wrong channel. Apologies.
[19:52] <hibana> hi
[19:52] <DaSkreech> !hi
[19:53] <hibana> what tool do you use to create a thumbnail of an image?
[19:54] <hibana> !thumbnail
[19:54] <DaSkreech> Hmm?
[19:54] <DaSkreech> For like putting on a website?
[19:54] <DaSkreech> any image editor
[19:55] <hibana> typical use in creating a quick thumbnail for social media profile picture
[19:55] <Pliskin_> gwenview ?
[19:55] <hibana> thumbnail should be below 4k
[19:55] <Pliskin_> euh no digikam ?
[19:57] <shazoor> how do i creat a folder in root
[19:59] <shazoor> is there anyone
[19:59] <hibana> I've not seen a feature to make an image into a thumbnail in gwenview
[20:00] <genii> shazoor: Why do you feel it necessary that a folder must be made in /root ?
[20:01] <shazoor> actually i want to edit a file on root and i dont have write permissions. also i want to learn it by experimenting also... can you help me please
[20:05] <mefisto__> hibana: a thumbnail is just a small image, right? so all you need to do is create a small image. any image editor can do it
[20:06] <DaSkreech> Pliskin_: Gwenview is an image viewr not an editro
[20:06] <hibana> mefisto__: but some tools do it better than others
[20:07] <DaSkreech> Shazoor: You need sudo
[20:07] <mefisto__> hibana: do what? small images?
[20:07] <hibana> mefisto__: the resizing of images
[20:08] <Guest43719> kira
[20:09] <mefisto__> hibana: if you're really concerned about the quality of an image that is less than 4k in size, I guess use gimp. but it will look the same no matter what you use
[20:09] <fung> hey guys, my panel somehow became like a window titled 'Qt-subapplication.' how do i fix it?
[20:09] <DaSkreech> Krtia
[20:09] <DaSkreech> Krita
[20:09] <DaSkreech> nor kira
[20:09] <DaSkreech> Kpaint also exists
[20:09] <Pliskin_> DaSkreech : Yeah I sai Digikam
[20:09] <Pliskin_> said*
[20:10] <mefisto__> hibana: kolorpaint will be quick and easy
[20:10] <DaSkreech> Also a image manager not really an editor
[20:10] <hibana> mefisto__: thanks to the guys in ubuntu-za I have found 'convert' which does exactly what I need
[20:10] <DaSkreech> kolourpaint.. Thanks
[20:10] <hibana> thanks
[20:12] <drostie> Hee, ^_^. I can has stylus! Thanks to the people who helped me with Xorg stuff. You guys rock!
[20:13] <DaSkreech> Whoot
[20:15] <Lummy> Anyone know offhand the equivalent of System->Prefs->Keyboard in Kubuntu where the keyboard device can be changed?
[20:17] <DaSkreech> System Settings -> Launguage I think
[20:17] <mefisto__> system settings > regional & language, keyboard layout
[20:19] <DaSkreech> That's it
[20:19] <geiseri> hey is anyone here using intrepid with the KDE 4.2 ppa packages?  i am having problems with flash viewing youtube vids using it
[20:19] <Lummy> thanks, looks like it, except I'm not seeing an expected option.  I have a logitech g15, the g15daemon is running, and according to what I've read, I should be able to select it.
[20:19] <DaSkreech> In Firefox?
[20:20] <geiseri> konqueror
[20:20] <geiseri> funny thing is other flash sites like growcube work just fine
[20:20] <iwannasave> geiseri: right click within the flash video, go to settings and increase the cache size to 1MB
[20:20] <Lummy> nm, found the option I was looking for.  Thanks DaSkreech and Mefiso
[20:20] <Lummy> Mefisto!
[20:20] <DaSkreech> Where was it?
[20:20] <geiseri> iwannasave: if i rightclick and click the settings menu nothing happens
[20:21] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know youtube likes to keep it's flash realy really new which messes wit konqueror
[20:21] <Lummy> You were right.  The g15daemon option I was hunting for was under "Logitech G15"...  heh
[20:21] <iwannasave> geiseri: then flash plugin is not enabled for konq browser
[20:21] <DaSkreech> I find if I refresh Konqueror like 7-10 times it works
[20:21] <DaSkreech>  normally I just open firefox and use it for youtube then close
[20:21] <geiseri> iwannasave: well i see the context menu... i just see a black screen
[20:21] <DaSkreech> Yeah same for me
[20:22] <geiseri> DaSkreech: well we are showing off KDE 4.2 on kubuntu this weekend
[20:22] <mefisto__> I find konqueror works better with the older version 9 flash plugin
[20:22] <DaSkreech> Don't use youtbe :)
[20:22] <geiseri> DaSkreech: its inevitable that some cocky user will go there to prove how bad kde is :(
[20:23] <iwannasave> geiseri: do u see the flash plugin within the settings of konqueror?
[20:23] <drostie> Use wireshark to capture the HTTP header between your computer and youtube, and download the file directly with wget. ^_^
[20:23] <zzillezz> why is the bar at the bottom of the screen not full width ? (jaunty alpha 4) ?
[20:23] <geiseri> iwannasave: yes, its using the closed source one too
[20:23] <geiseri> iwannasave: its strange i see a black screen, and i have more context menu options than i do with firefox
[20:24] <geiseri> iwannasave: but they dont do anything, its like flash is locked up
[20:24] <drostie> zzillezz: click the ying-yang icon on the left of the panel, and you should get options to resize it.
[20:24] <iwannasave> geiseri: not sure .... do u have any Ad-Blocks enabled? ... I had a similar problem with Firefox when I had AD-Block enabled
[20:24] <mefisto__> ying-yang :) first time I've heard it called that
[20:24] <geiseri> iwannasave: hmmm let me check
[20:24] <DaSkreech> geiseri: I have the same issue
[20:25] <zzillezz> thanks very much drostie :-)
[20:25] <geiseri> DaSkreech: on kde 4.2?
[20:25] <drostie> mefisto__: I have absolutely no idea what the heck it's supposed to be. ^_^
[20:25] <DaSkreech> geiseri: on all KDE4
[20:25] <zzillezz> why does battery monitor starts automatically when i'm on a desktop computer ?
[20:25] <geiseri> DaSkreech: well i can see flash vids on 4.1
[20:25] <DaSkreech> You will update Flash and it will work for a while then youtube updates and it breaks
[20:25] <geiseri> with stock intrepid
[20:26] <DaSkreech> You can refresh a few times and it works
[20:26] <iwannasave> geiseri: If your end goal is to download the you tube video, then use AcetoneISO2. It will not only download the youtube videos, but it has an option to convert FLV to AVI.
[20:26] <DaSkreech> I dunno Youtube is a crapshoot for me
[20:26] <mefisto__> drostie: I think ying-yang is supposed to be the cashew-shaped button at the far right of the panel
[20:26] <zzillezz> brb, reboot
[20:26] <geiseri> iwannasave: well my end goal is to show off KDE 4.2 in action...
[20:26] <geiseri> iwannasave: we are exhibiting at SCALE and using KDE 4.2 with kubuntu
[20:27] <drostie> mefisto__: well, I know what I was referring to by it; but I don't know what the cashew-shape is supposed to reference.
[20:27] <noren> hi all, its been a long day trying to get the kde4.2 up and running.................. still not succesfull
[20:27] <drostie> noren:were you trying to get it running on intrepid? or is a jaunty install failing?
[20:27] <iwannasave> geiseri: Then I give up. Try with firefox. If it works, then some setting is wrong with konq browser.
[20:28] <mefisto__> drostie: sorry, I didn't realise who was saying what to whom
[20:28] <geiseri> iwannasave: okay, ill bother the kde devs on it... thanks for the help.
[20:28] <drostie> mefisto__: 's fine. ^^;;
[20:28] <noren> is there any way to reveert back to older veeersionn of kde if the update is not successfull, i had to install kubuntu frommm scratch twice til now
[20:28] <mefisto__> drostie: looks like a web blob of paint to me :)
[20:28] <iwannasave> geiseri: Good luck. if u find a solution post back here or put it on the web somewhere it can be searched for
[20:29] <geiseri> iwannasave: i will try, but i fear its one of those stupid things fixed in trunk, but never will get backported.
[20:29] <drostie> noren: depends. if your internet connection is available from the teletype consoles, you might be able to uninstall KDE 4.2 and then reinstall KDE 4.1 somehow.
[20:30] <drostie> noren: but when I tried to upgrade intrepid through the experimental ppa, it just broke everything and I had to backup my data and then reinstall jaunty instead.
[20:31] <noren> oh okay!! i had installed kubuntu 8.10 and then tried to upgradee it as per the instructiionn at kde.org
[20:32] <fabio_> hi...many problems here. Computer inusable after dist-upgrade...someone can help me, please?
[20:32] <noren> saame here drostie, i had tried to update with experimental ppa... what is this other way to do with jaunty
[20:32] <DaSkreech> noren: Yes
[20:33] <drostie> fabio_: what did you dist-upgrade from/to, and what, more specifically, is unusable?
[20:33] <DaSkreech> noren: KDE.org? you installed from source?
[20:33] <fabio_> using kubuntu, intrepid...
[20:33] <drostie> noren: the jaunty alpha comes with kde 4.2 out-of-the-box.
[20:34] <fabio_> actually kernel was update d to 2.6.27-12.
[20:34] <drostie> DaSkreech: no, noren means the skeleton of a walkthrough on kubuntu.org.
[20:34] <noren> where can i geet jaunty alpha, and noo i dont know how to install frromm soource
[20:34] <drostie> (the experimental ppa is a .deb repository)
[20:34] <fabio_> kde seems to start, but i have no wallpaper, no windows decorations, system setting does not work and I only can run programs using ALT F2
[20:35] <KomiaPoika> hi
[20:35] <DaSkreech> noren: You mean kubuntu.org or kde.org ?
[20:35] <KomiaPoika> what option to put in xorg.conf so that there is NO virtual desktop larger than the resolution of the monitor?
[20:35] <DaSkreech> fabio_: run plasma
[20:35] <DaSkreech> fabio_: then run konsole and run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:36] <noren> DaSkreech: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 << i followed this, but its useless i guess. it ends with some dependency error.
[20:36] <fabio_> ok... but i mus exit from here
[20:36] <DaSkreech> noren: do you have Koffice installed?
[20:36] <zzillezz> what's the recommended solution for flash in jaunty alpha  ?
[20:36] <zzillezz> alpha4 that is :)
[20:37] <drostie> zzillezz: I assume it's flash-plugin-nonfree, as always.
[20:37] <noren> i just finished installiing kubutu 8.10 from scratch, but awaiting some expert advice before trying to upgradde again
[20:37] <DaSkreech> Flash?
[20:37] <zzillezz> why not the adobe one ?
[20:37] <DaSkreech> noren: Did you have koffice installed?
[20:37] <DaSkreech> zzillezz: That is the adobe one
[20:37] <zzillezz> the 64 bit one ?
[20:38] <fabio_> hi...dist-upgrade does not upgrade all...all is up-to-date
[20:38] <zzillezz> i've been using mint for too long :-)
[20:38] <mefisto__> actually, adobe-flashplugin is the new package name, but flashplugin-nonfree still works (but doesn't always upgrade properly)
[20:38] <noren> DaSkreech: i got only the default installed openoffice word
[20:38] <zzillezz> thanks, that was the name i was looking for :-)
[20:38] <DaSkreech> noren: Ok follow the instructions again and I'll help with any problems
[20:39] <Guest17074> Hi people
[20:39] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Hmm ok what is the situation when you login ?
[20:39] <Guest17074> Any reason why firefox-3.0 depends on gnome-support which itself brings half of GNOME ?
[20:39] <fabio_> well...maybe is helpful...when i loging there is the black plasmoid showing all but the KDE logo. It does not appear
[20:40] <mefisto__> Guest17074: it's a gtk app
[20:40] <fabio_> then the jingle, then nothing...grey wallpaper with wite balls
[20:40] <fabio_> white, sorry
[20:40] <Guest17074> when I install firefox from the web site, I have not those dependancies
[20:40] <DaSkreech> Guest17074: Ubuntu bug take it up with #ubuntu-devel
[20:41] <Guest17074> (at least I used not to have them... retrying)
[20:41] <drostie> Guest17074: firefox still installs anything that it's dependent on when you grab the tarball.
[20:41] <drostie> Guest17074: just without registering it as a package -- so, e.g., when you install GIMP, you'll have two copies of the GTK stuff floating around.
[20:41] <DaSkreech> drostie: yes but firefox in Ubuntu relies on ubufox which relies on Gnome support which relies on all of Gnome
[20:41] <fabio_> i use nvidia...maybe drivers conflicting with kernel?
[20:41] <DaSkreech> It's an ubuntu bug
[20:41] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Maybe I've heard people say that
[20:42] <DaSkreech> you should get plasma though
[20:42] <fabio_> how have I to do, DaSkrrech?
[20:43] <fabio_> yes...I have something  but unusable
[20:43] <drostie> DaSkreech: according to aptitude show, firefox-3.0 merely "suggests" ubufox and firefox-3.0-gnome-support, it doesn't depend on them. At least, not in jaunty -- may be different in intrepid.
[20:43] <fabio_> no window devcoration, no panels, no menus
[20:43] <DaSkreech> drostie: Ubuntu installs suggests by default in Ibex onwards
[20:43] <Guest17074> on intrepid it wanted to call firefox-3.0-gnome-support
[20:43] <DaSkreech> fabio_: can you open a konsole ?
[20:43] <fabio_> yes..but I have to exit konversation
[20:44] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Why ?
[20:44] <DaSkreech> fabio_: You are running konversation from a console?
[20:45] <Guest17074> ah you are correct, I have run a apt-cache depends, and it only "suggests" firefox-3.0-gnome-support
[20:45] <fabio_> no from ALT-F2
[20:45] <Guest17074> so why is it calling half of gnome ?
[20:45] <mefisto__> Guest17074: it's the good half :)
[20:45] <DaSkreech> fabio_: you shouldn't need to close it then
[20:45] <fabio_> if i want to use a konsole I have to exit konversation, and get konsole by ALT-F2
[20:45] <noren> fabio_: did u also tried updating to kde4.2 and failed ??
[20:45] <Guest17074> ;-)
[20:45] <DaSkreech> Just alt+f2 and go again
[20:46] <fabio_> no I am using Kde4.2 fsince beta
[20:46] <drostie> Guest17074: the best advice here is to just accept it. I also had that question and I decided that the extra megabytes weren't worth worrying about.
[20:46] <fabio_> what have I to do in konsole, please?
[20:47] <drostie> Guest17074: but there might be a way to tell aptitude to not follow the "suggests" line.
[20:47] <fabio_> i can only input inside one window. Or  ALT-F2 or konversation
[20:47] <Guest17074> strangely enough when now i download firefox from the web site, it requires libgnomeui-2.so (I did a strace)
[20:47] <noren> in my last try, after the unsuccessful update to kde4.2 my keyboard failed, also i had to close an application to staart another
[20:47] <Guest17074> I was running firefox happy and uncaring up to today...
[20:48] <drostie> fabio_: switch dynamically to your teletypes. It's Ctrl-Alt-F1 to jump to one, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to return here.
[20:48] <drostie> fabio_: then you can run both together, probably.
[20:48] <Guest17074> I just did an apt-get update && upgrade and now I'm running into these dependancy problems... ufff
[20:48] <fabio_> ok...it works. me stoopid not having thought that
[20:48] <fabio_>  I am login into tty2
[20:49] <DaSkreech> noren: You had to close an app to start another?
[20:50] <drostie> fabio_: what does [aptitude show kdebase-plasma] show? is plasma installed?
[20:51] <drostie> also, kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-data, apparently.
[20:51] <Luija> ei guys, can someone tell me how to use wifi in kubuntu? (i am talking in vista because i cant use the konqueror)
[20:51] <ab> hello, i am facing a problem with one of my compaq laptop,regarding video driver
[20:51] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Oh!! I know what that is. Close konversation then type in kwin&
[20:52] <mefisto__> Guest17074: you could install firefox with apt-get --no-install-recommends and see what it's like
[20:52] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[20:52] <mefisto__> Guest17074: my guess is it will look ugly without them
[20:52] <drostie> Luija: intrepid or jaunty?
[20:53] <DaSkreech> fabio_: you have no window manager
[20:53] <noren> Daksreech: Yes because i could only interact with the topmost window onn the desktop
[20:53] <DaSkreech> noren: You too?
[20:53] <Luija> drostie, is intrepid
[20:53] <drostie> DaSkreech: I think fabio was off in his/her teletype.
[20:54] <DaSkreech> ok lets try get that sorted out
[20:54] <Guest17074> wow... I installed half of gnome, and firefox still does not work
[20:54] <Guest17074> up to the apt-get update && upgrade from tonight everything worked fine
[20:54] <ab> is there is any one to help me regarding video driver
[20:55] <noren> yes DaSkreech
[20:55] <DaSkreech> fabio_: run kwin
[20:55] <amgarching> what happend here on IRC? They dont let me in nether to #python nor to some other channels?
[20:55] <DaSkreech> noren: Ok I can get that working
[20:55] <DaSkreech> amgarching: you got banned
[20:55]  * DaSkreech shrugs
[20:56] <mefisto__> ab: what's the problem?
[20:56] <amgarching> DaSkreech: not really. I get this though I *am* identified:  [21:51] [Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel
[20:57] <fabio_> ok ...nothing seems to happen running kwin
[20:57] <ab> actually i had installed the driver provided by nvedia..but after getting logged in....screen get blanck
[20:57] <DaSkreech> amgarching: Ah ok
[20:57] <ab> *blank
[20:57] <DaSkreech> !register | amgarching Read that
[20:57] <DaSkreech> fabio_: run konsole
[20:58] <DaSkreech> You should be able to move it around and click on the thing behind it
[20:58] <fabio_> sorry for the daly...if i am in the alternative konsole and run kwin i get : cannot konnect to xserver
[20:58] <DaSkreech> Woah
[20:58] <DaSkreech> The alternative Konsole ?
[20:59] <fabio_> no sorry the CTRL-ALT-F2
[21:01] <fabio_> another thing: i cannot having system setting to work and jockey-kde tells me there are no nvidia drivers running.
[21:01] <noren> test
[21:02] <DaSkreech> noren: try that with a ! in front of it
[21:02] <DaSkreech> fabio_: ok Hold on
[21:02] <noren> !test
[21:03] <DaSkreech> fabio_: does alt+f2 work in alt+ctrl+F7 ?
[21:03] <fabio_> yes DaSkreech, but I can type into if I have another application running
[21:03] <fabio_> can't type into, sorry
[21:03] <DaSkreech> fabio_: do you have konversation running now?
[21:03] <mefisto__> noren and fabio_: can you hold alt down and move windows that way?
[21:03] <fabio_> yep
[21:04] <fabio_> no, i can not move windows
[21:04] <fabio_> i have konversation running
[21:05] <noren> nope
[21:06] <DaSkreech> fabio_: ok in alt+ctrl+F2 type in export X:0.0
[21:06] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Wait
[21:06] <DaSkreech> export DISPLAY=:0.0
[21:07] <DaSkreech> then type kwin &
[21:07] <DaSkreech> noren: you are here :)
[21:07] <noren> yes
[21:08] <fabio_> ok. i got [1] 8471
[21:08] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Ok can you move the konversation window now?
[21:09] <fabio_> no.
[21:09] <DaSkreech> noren: Ok try the KDE 4.2 upgrade and I can help you fix it
[21:09] <DaSkreech> fabio_: v_v
[21:09] <fabio_> Da skreech...I'm sorry, thankyou for your help
[21:09] <DaSkreech> How did you start konversation? With alt+f2 ?
[21:10] <fabio_> yes, with alt-F2
[21:10] <fabio_> no menu...
[21:10] <DaSkreech> at the top?
[21:10] <fabio_> nothing...
[21:10] <fabio_> only the grey wallpaper you get when welcome plasmaoid loads
[21:10] <DaSkreech> anyway close it and use alt+f2 to run kwin then alt+f2 again to run konversation
[21:11] <fabio_> ok
[21:11] <drbobb> hello, whenever i launch something that loads the cpu heavily, my wireless promptly disconnects from the AP
[21:12] <drostie> If the wallpaper is gray, doesn't that mean they're stuck in kdm without a login screen?
[21:12] <drbobb> (using a broadcom card with the b43 driver)
[21:12] <drbobb> anyone know whether this is a driver issue, a networkmanager issue, or what?
[21:12] <noren> the lassst three times i tried to upgrade to KDE4.2 i had to download almost 350MB each time... is there a way around not to downloaad so much everytime
[21:12] <DaSkreech> drostie: not if alt+F2 works
[21:13] <DaSkreech> noren: Don't upgrade to KDE 4.2 ?
[21:13] <DaSkreech> Why did you have to do it every time?
[21:13] <fabio_> hey! do you want to laugh?
[21:13] <drostie> drbobb: you can probably find out more by K > Applications > System > System Logs Viewer and then loading your CO
[21:13] <drostie> *CPU
[21:13] <fabio_> all icons in ALT-F2 are one above the other...cannot get "run kwin"
[21:14] <drbobb> oh and btw every time i try to connect to a last.fm stream w/amarok, the wifi disconnects as well
[21:14] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Do you have kwin?
[21:14] <noren> every time the update krashed i had to start from a scratch and fresh install of Kubuntu 8.10
[21:14] <DaSkreech>  what does "which kwin" say in TTY2 ?
[21:15] <DaSkreech> noren: You could have just removed the repo and re grabbed packages from the normal main
[21:15] <drbobb> i know about reading logs, but they're not too informative
[21:15] <fabio_> it seems so. In CTRL-ALT-F2 afrter exprting the variable DISPLAY i typed kwin& and i got:
[21:15] <fabio_> [1] 8471
[21:15] <drostie> drbobb: (that is, loading your CPU up until it drops a connection.)
[21:16] <DaSkreech> fabio_: and which kwin gives an output?
[21:16] <drbobb> RX deauthentication (reason=7), like i knew what reason 7 means
[21:16] <fabio_> yes
[21:16] <DaSkreech> fabio_: You still can't move konversation though?
[21:16] <drostie> drbobb: well, you're asking people who have absolutely no information. Even only vaguely-informative logs improves our information content infinitely.
[21:16] <fabio_> "/usr/bin/kwin" segmentation fault
[21:17] <drbobb> well i was hoping someone had seen that on his own system, and researched it
[21:17] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Ah that's not good at all
[21:17] <fabio_> i think so :-)
[21:18] <DaSkreech> fabio_: sudo apt-get install kwin --reinstall
[21:18] <drostie> drbobb: and you asked us as opposed to, say, google or ubuntuforums? :-P
[21:18] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Ooooh wait. Do you have compositing on?
[21:18] <drbobb> well had i found an answer there i wouldn't be here
[21:19] <fabio_> yes...but i have launched the reinstallation...
[21:19] <drbobb> (and the effect is kind of annoying as you may imagine)
[21:19] <fabio_> and i has terminated...
[21:20] <DaSkreech> It terminated?
[21:20] <DaSkreech> with what error?
[21:20] <fabio_> No all OK.
[21:20] <drostie> drbobb: yeah, understandable. Is your laptop (or a very similar model number) covered by the LaptopTestingTeam at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam ?
[21:20] <drostie> There may be a better driver out there for you; I dunno.
[21:20] <fabio_> reinstallation worked.
[21:20] <DaSkreech> fabio_: ok do you have compositing on? lets turn that off
[21:20] <drbobb> (oh and sometimes the wifi refuses to reconnect until i unload & reload the driver)
[21:20] <DaSkreech> The laptop testing team is defunc as far as I know
[21:21] <fabio_> Ok. It's impossible for me turning compositing off. System setting does not load any window
[21:21] <fabio_> there is another command?
[21:21] <drbobb> DaSkreech: seems so, my model was once reported there but the most recent report i saw was ancient
[21:21] <muxomor> Hallo, i got a question about psad - is it ever possible to specifyinternal mail - root@localhost, as it was by default, but error is "Could not find mail, edit /etc/psad/psad.conf at /usr/sbin/psad line 9467.
[21:22] <drbobb> and basically only said installation completes correctly and all seems to work fine (my experience as well)
[21:22] <muxomor> i typed two internal mails and external too, but it still doesnt want to s send me logs
[21:22] <Guest92887> ok I have the solution (firefox needing half of GNOME because of dependancies), does that interest people here ?
[21:22] <DaSkreech> fabio_: yes in tty run nano ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[21:23] <DaSkreech> and look for the line Enabled=true under [Compositing]
[21:23] <DaSkreech> Change that to false and save
[21:23] <DaSkreech> Guest92887: yes
[21:23] <Guest92887> first, "apt-get --no-install-recommends install firefox-3.0" is cool, it avoids bringing all these dependancies in
[21:24] <drbobb> (back in breezy times it did require some funky workarounds though)
[21:24] <Guest92887> second, the cause of the problem was that firefox could not access to X server, it kept failing reading the socket
[21:24] <DaSkreech> fabio_: yes in tty run nano ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[21:24] <DaSkreech> and look for the line Enabled=true under [Compositing]
[21:24] <DaSkreech> Change that to false and save
[21:24] <Guest92887> closing the X session and reopening it solved the problem
[21:25] <Guest92887> what puzzles me, is why doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade could cause such a problem of accessing the X server
[21:25] <Guest92887> it sounds completly unrelated to me
[21:25] <Laeborg> how does i unrar a .part01.rar, .part02.rar ect file?
[21:26] <DaSkreech> !rar
[21:26] <drostie> drbobb: ouch. hrm. well, my aspire 5000 had a broadcom card, and I think I was running bm43 on it without a cpu-causes-connection-drops problem.
[21:26] <DaSkreech> fabio_: did that?
[21:26] <fabio_> sorry...everythingh gere stoppd working
[21:26] <fabio_> i am just reconnected...
[21:26] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Ok did you see my instructions ?
[21:26] <drbobb> drostie: yes, mine is a series 5000 aspire indeed
[21:26] <fabio_> tell me please DaSkreech, sorry
[21:27] <DaSkreech> fabio_: yes in tty run nano ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[21:27] <DaSkreech> and look for the line Enabled=true under [Compositing]
[21:27] <DaSkreech> Change that to false and save
[21:27] <Laeborg> ah unrar-free doesnt work, but unrar does :S
[21:27] <DaSkreech> Sounds about right
[21:28] <drbobb> the broadcom used to work only under ndiswrapper in the past
[21:28] <Guest92887> I don't know if this solution report is helpful DaSkreech... :-(
[21:28] <Guest92887> but apt-get --no-install-recommends install firefox-3.0 is really cool ;-) thanks again
[21:28] <drbobb> currently b43 works ok, except for the problem i mentioned
[21:28] <drostie> But probably the best thing you could do is to join the channel #bcm-users and ask there.
[21:28] <DaSkreech> Guest92887: Helps me. see if you can post that in the ubuntuforums. Makes it more permanent
[21:29] <DaSkreech> noren: You reinstall everytime ?
[21:29] <drbobb> drostie: thx i wasn't aware of that channel
[21:29] <Guest92887> wow, I already posted on the forums, but never started a new thread...
[21:30] <fabio_> iDaskreech. No line telling that
[21:30] <fabio_> no [Compositing]
[21:30] <DaSkreech> fabio_: do you have a section that says [Compositing] ?
[21:30] <DaSkreech> ok
[21:30] <noren> ya dis is the third  time
[21:30] <DaSkreech> you probably have it off then
[21:30] <fabio_> only [Plugins]
[21:30] <drostie> drbobb: there's a site at http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 for the driver; I just stole the channel from there. I've no idea how active it is.
[21:30] <DaSkreech> noren: Is it easier to do that than just sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ?
[21:31] <DaSkreech> fabio_: Ok that's fine I think
[21:31] <DaSkreech> but kwin& still segfaults?
[21:31] <fabio_> how can I remove --purge all kde?
[21:31] <drbobb> ok will see
[21:31] <noren> will that take me to the olddeeer ver i.e kubuntu 8.10
[21:31] <Laeborg> any programs to "mount" a .daa file ?
[21:32] <DaSkreech> noren: it will if you remove the experimental ppa
[21:32] <fabio_> no kwin does not segfaults
[21:33] <DaSkreech> fabio_: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5
[21:33] <drostie> Laeborg: daa2iso?
[21:33] <DaSkreech> fabio_: So you can move konversation now?
[21:33] <jordi_> hola
[21:33] <fabio_> then for reinstall?
[21:33] <jordi_> español?
[21:33] <fabio_> kde4-desktop?
[21:33] <fabio_> kubuntu-desktop?
[21:33] <DaSkreech> fabio_: no sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:33] <fabio_> ok, da skreech . Bye bye.
[21:34] <fabio_> Thankyou for your help.
[21:34] <jordi_> spanish channel here?
[21:34] <fabio_> I try the final weapon of dis-installing everything
[21:34] <drostie> Laeborg: (I don't know if it exists for Linux, but there's a windows version that might be able to work on wine)
[21:34] <drostie> !es jordi_
[21:34] <DaSkreech> noren: so remove the experimental ppa then sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:34] <drostie> !es
[21:34] <DaSkreech> noren: normal 8.10
[21:34] <jordi_> thanks
[21:34] <jordi_> !es
[21:35] <DaSkreech> escribo /join #kubuntu-es
[21:35] <jordi_> ok thanks
[21:35] <fabio_> I try DaSkreech. then I will you tell
[21:35] <fabio_> Bye
[21:35] <DaSkreech> ok
[21:37] <noren> ok DaSkreech i  will keep that in mind if it fails this time again
[21:37] <Laeborg> sudo poweriso extract Adobe\ Photoshop\ CS3\ v10.0\ Extended\ Incl\ Keygen.daa -od /home/laeborg/
[21:37] <Laeborg> whats wrong there ?
[21:37] <DaSkreech> Why do you need sudo ?
[21:38] <Laeborg> else it says pemisson denied
[21:38] <DaSkreech> wierd. Ok
[21:38] <jordi_> no help in spanish channel :(
[21:39] <Laeborg> but how does the poweriso thingy works?
[21:39]  * DaSkreech shrugs
[21:39] <DaSkreech> jordi_: Ask in here if you like but it's only english in here
[21:39] <jordi_> ok
[21:39] <drostie> Laeborg: what's wrong there is that you're using a cracked version of photoshop instead of GIMP.
[21:39] <drostie> ^_^
[21:40] <DaSkreech> drostie: Good point
[21:40] <jordi_> Is it possible to prevent the access to the partitions of windows?
[21:41] <DaSkreech> Yes
[21:41] <DaSkreech> read up on fstab
[21:41] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[21:41] <genii> Laeborg: Incidentally, conversation of illegal activities such as key generators, etc is not allowable in this channel.
[21:42] <jordi_> I have installed kubuntu inside windows
[21:42] <DaSkreech> Oh Hmm
[21:42] <DaSkreech> I don't know but I think it should be the same
[21:42] <jordi_> I am going to investigate
[21:43] <DaSkreech> genii: on a technicallity he's asking for help on poweriso not on the warez he's using it on
[21:43] <drostie> jordi: if windows is not encrypted (criptografia) somehow, then kubuntu can probably always access the windows partitions.
[21:43] <genii> DaSkreech: Then he should use a different file hierarchy example
[21:44] <jordi_> If I unmont the discs already is not it possible to accede to them not?
[21:45] <DaSkreech> genii: yes he should have but had he done that we would be helping him still
[21:45] <drostie> jordi_: even if you [umount /dev/hda1] , or something like it, someone later could always [sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/disk]. But, they need to be able to use sudo.
[21:45] <DaSkreech> drostie: Yes but you can restrict who can get that access
[21:45] <DaSkreech> drostie: You can only allow certain UIDs etc
[21:46] <genii> Laeborg: Incidentally the error in your syntax is of putting the the -od switch in between the target and sources
[21:47] <drostie> just after he leaves you help him out? ^_^ classy.
[21:47] <jordi_> yes i want something as this, restrict the acces with a password, for example
[21:47] <genii> drostie: Heh...to be fair I had started typing much earlier on than that :)
[21:47] <drostie> :-D
[21:47] <mefisto__> poweriso isn't part of kubuntu anyway, is it?
[21:47] <genii> mefisto__: Correct
[21:48] <drostie> mefisto__: but wikipedia says that PowerISO is distributed for Linux, so...
[21:48] <jordi_> Only that could not touch anything of windows for mistake
[21:48] <drostie> I mean, wrong channel, sure, but it's not like what they were saying was impossible.
[21:49] <Guest92887> DaSkreech:  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3101752.0
[21:49] <DaSkreech> Guest92887: Nice
[21:50] <Guest92887> thanks to all nice folks here ;-)
[21:50] <drostie> jordi_: You should make sure that people cannot boot into your computer with a CD or USB key. You should also make sure that they cannot use the "sudo" command on your computer. Then they cannot mount your hard drive themselves.
[21:50] <DaSkreech> jordi_: Well they have to have sudo access by default. Only the first user has sudo so no one will be able to get to the Windows directory except the first user
[21:51] <DaSkreech> jordi_: It can't touch anything in Windows by mistake
[21:51] <drostie> jordi_: then, to make the windows partition not load on bootup, comment it out (put a # symbol in front of it) in /etc/fstab, if it exists there.
[21:52] <drostie> jordi_: (or remove the line completely.)
[21:52] <jordi_> but i can enter to windows partitons/disc/folders and modify now
[21:52] <jordi_> only i need to create another user?
[21:54] <DaSkreech> jordi_: in the file /etc/fstab find the line with that path and put a # in front of it and save
[21:54] <DaSkreech> You will be ok after that
[21:54] <drostie> Yes. Two steps. (1) Create another user. This user does not have the rights that you have. (2) Make sure that the partition is not mounted by default. This requires editing /etc/fstab.
[21:56] <drostie> The line you want to place the # symbol in front of will probably say "ntfs" (or maybe "vfat," "fat," or "fat32") in the third column.
[21:57] <jordi_> i don't see any ntfs...
[21:58] <drostie> jordi_: can you paste your /etc/fstab into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ for us to see?
[21:59] <jordi_> i put my name?
[21:59] <jordi_> in poster?
[21:59] <drostie> DaSkreech: you probably know more about this than I: even when you don't specify something in /etc/fstab, when you plug in e.g. a USB key, there's a pop-up window that lets you select the partition and mount from there.
[22:00] <drostie> jordi_: just "jordi_" is ok. We know who you are. ^_^
[22:00] <DaSkreech> That's udev
[22:00] <drostie> DaSkreech: could udev be leveraged to mount a windows partition somehow?
[22:00] <jordi_> done
[22:00] <DaSkreech> jordi_: give us the URL here when it's finished
[22:00] <DaSkreech> drostie: If it's USB
[22:01] <jordi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119840/
[22:01] <jordi_> ok
[22:01] <drostie> jordi_: ok, you're safe. the windows partition isn't in /etc/fstab. How are you navigating through it right now?
[22:02] <drostie> jordi_: did you type [sudo mount /dev/hda1] or something like that?
[22:02] <jordi_> no
[22:03] <jordi_> but the 2 hd ntfs appears in dolphin
[22:04] <drostie> If you right-click the path and choose "Edit...", what is the total pathname? (It looks like "/media/disk" or so.)
[22:05] <drostie> ("the path" means "the list of directories that tells you where in the directory scheme Dolphin is")
[22:05] <jordi_> is for me?
[22:05] <DaSkreech> yes
[22:06] <jordi_> i don't understand sorry
[22:06] <jordi_> i'm very bad in english
[22:06] <jordi_> and the google translator is more bad
[22:06] <jordi_> XD
[22:09] <drostie> jordi_: cual es la ruta de la particion de windows?
[22:09] <gbel> hey, after update my kde yesterday, the suspend (to ram and hard drive) icons are gone... Has anyone experienced this?
[22:10] <jordi_> ok is in root/media with cdroms
[22:11] <jordi_> i can enter as a root and change the permisions of the folder
[22:11] <jordi_> is correct?
[22:11] <jordi_> and put only read
[22:12] <jordi_> i go to try this and come back
[22:12] <drostie> ok. good luck.
[22:13] <drostie> wikipedia for translating, w00t. ^_^
[22:13] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[22:14] <drostie> I'm serious. I know this is off-topic, but I described a platypus to a Nederlander, and they didn't believe me that such a creature existed, until I used Wikipedia to translate the word "platypus" into Nederlands.
[22:16] <KomiaPoika> hi
[22:16] <KomiaPoika> in kde 4.2.0 i set the screensaver to autostart after 120 mins and no password lock. but it keeps starting after 10 mins and locks password. how can i fix this??
[22:18] <DaSkreech> drostie: yes I've done that before
[22:18]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[22:18] <drostie> KomiaPoika: if you set it via K > System Settings > Desktop, then you might still need to change K > System Settings > Advanced > Power Management or vice versa.
[22:19] <KomiaPoika> drostie: in power management, i turned off powerdevil already
[22:19] <KomiaPoika> drostie: but it seems to ignore my settings
[22:20] <KomiaPoika> drostie: oh wait i think i found a stray settings, the management profile
[22:21] <drostie> I don't think PowerDevil makes a difference if the rest of the Power Management settings still tell it to suspend to RAM and then lock the screen on resumes.
[22:24] <KomiaPoika> drostie: its a desktop pc, how can i make sure it's running the "performance" profile at all times?
[22:25] <drostie> Power Management > General Settings, click "performance" for all of the four options there.
[22:26] <drostie> its kinda confusing, I know ^_^
[22:26] <mefisto__> or maybe disable the powerdevil service?
[22:27] <mefisto__> in service manager
[22:29] <KomiaPoika> drostie: thx
[22:30] <drostie> give it ten minutes, see if the problem is still around. ^_^
[22:41] <giarca> Is there a suicide try to upgrade kubuntu 8.10 with kde4.2 to jaunty (alpha yet if i'm right)?
[22:41] <giarca> ops... *Is a suicide...
[22:42] <mefisto__> suicide?
[22:42] <giarca> yes mefisto__
[22:43] <giarca> I mean an action that give only problem
[22:44] <Luija> Srry people, but i am new to kubuntu, i just started a few minutes, how i can download and install programs like mirc to kubuntu 8.10? (i am talking from vista)
[22:45] <Luija> can someone PM pls?
[22:45] <giarca> Luija: I'm using Konversation (the deafult program for irc protocol of kde)
[22:45] <giarca> and it work really well
[22:45] <Luija> is exactly the same than Mirc?
[22:45] <giarca> I think you have it installed
[22:45] <giarca> not exactly the same
[22:45] <giarca> it's different
[22:45] <steven> hi
[22:46] <steven> i kinda like this jubuntu
[22:46] <steven> kubuntu
[22:46] <giarca> Luija: try KVIRC
[22:46] <Os3WaRp> hi i am also new :) i have somewhat figured out. how do i install Quake 4 or doom 3
[22:47] <mefisto__> Luija: you can install programs from Adept Manager (it's in the menu)
[22:48] <Luija> but it says something like i must be root or somethng
[22:48] <szrhawaii> does anyone know how to install screenlets
[22:48] <Luija> mefisto
[22:48] <mefisto__> Luija: type your password
[22:48] <giarca> Luija: the same of your user :)
[22:48] <szrhawaii> use kdesudo
[22:56] <jcalado> trying quassell
[22:56] <jcalado> sweet!
[22:57] <jordi_> is impossible to cahnge the permissions :(
[22:57] <jordi_> i don't like it
[22:58] <Luija> ei giarca, thx a lot, i am talking from konversation :D
[22:58] <giarca> Luija: is different from mirc but it'a a client too :P
[22:58] <Luija> yeah, but at least is something lol thx
[22:59] <giarca> :)
[22:59] <jordi_> is possible to uninstall the ntfs compatibility or anything this?
[23:09] <burnier> Hi, I wanted to install wicd from a deb and ended up removing the plamoid network manager so now I have no internet to install wicd dependencies or installing the plasmoid back... Anyone knows a quick solution?
[23:10] <coteyr> attach to ehternet
[23:10] <coteyr> and run sudo dhclient
[23:10] <coteyr> that will get you back on the net so you can install
[23:12] <welton> hello, I am having problems with a realtek wireless card and my network-manager
[23:12] <welton> someone can help?
[23:21] <DaSkreech> Luija: It comes with konversation
[23:21] <DaSkreech> Os3WaRp: Quake 4 and Doom 3 should have Linux installers
[23:22] <JuJuBee> Anybody willing to have a look at   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220493  and tell me what you think of it for Kubuntu (linux support/compatibility).
[23:24] <maco> how can i get *all* the gtk apps i use in kde to look good? pidgin and terminator are fine, but tomboy looks like crap
[23:24] <DaSkreech> JuJuBee: Doesn't say what wifi card it has which is normally the most annoying
[23:27] <coteyr> maco; if you find out let me know.
[23:28] <coteyr> maco; I was never able to figure out how to apply "all" the kde colors to gtk, and I use a dark scheme so skype, and firefox, the gtk file browser always had black and while stripes.
[23:28] <maco> eh? skype's not gtk
[23:29] <coteyr> maco; you sure?
[23:29] <maco> yeah...i'm pretty sure skype's qt
[23:29] <maco> http://www.qtsoftware.com/qt-in-use/story/app/skype
[23:29] <coteyr> maco; thats even worse then
[23:30] <coteyr> maco; I can't help you at all, I can even get kde all one color
[23:30] <maco> heh
[23:30] <maco> i think skypte is qt3 though
[23:30] <maco> probably why its not matching your qt4 system
[23:30] <JuJuBee> DaSkreech : Right, thanks.  I will check that.  What about the other stuff?  Video nVidia 9800M ?
[23:31] <coteyr> maco; well now the enivatable question, how doe one edit the qt3 color scheme
[23:31] <coteyr> JuJuBee; other then some heat issues Nvidia cards have been 100% on linux for a while.
[23:31] <DaSkreech> That woks as well as the next nVidia update. Stuff like that  is just your judgement on the company's support so far
[23:31] <mefisto__> maco: do you have gtk styles & fonts in systemsettings > appearance?
[23:32] <coteyr> JuJuBee; but there linux drivers != their windows drivers, there are some diffrences, mostly in throtteling and cooling.
[23:32] <maco> mefisto__: i have it set to use ClearlooksClassic for GTK
[23:32] <DaSkreech> And sucking
[23:33] <maco> mefisto__: it works fine for firefox, pidgin, gwibber, and terminator. tomboy looks like GTK 1 though
[23:34] <drostie> According to Asus.com, the G71V is an Intel WiMAX/WiFi Link 5100 wireless adapter. Presumably the G71G is similar.
[23:34] <JuJuBee> DaSkreech : Seems like they prob use Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN  Best I can figure.  Cant find that model number on their site... weird.
[23:34] <maco> what?
[23:35] <maco> you're having trouble detecting a 4965?
[23:35] <DaSkreech> maco: He's trying to figure out if he will when he buys it
[23:35] <maco> ah
[23:36] <JuJuBee> maco, trying to figure out what wifi chipset is in and Asus G71G - X3 notebook.  Cant find that one on Asus' site.  Listed on NewEgg for $1600
[23:37] <JuJuBee> But NewEgg doesn;t specify wifi chipset.
[23:37] <drostie> How would I check what wireless adapter's in my computer? I can't remember where I found it last time I looked.
[23:37] <drostie> I'm pretty sure it was an Intel though.
[23:37] <maco> drostie: lspci
[23:38] <DaSkreech> sudo lshw -C network
[23:39] <drostie> thanks. JuJu: if it's an Intel 5100, that's what I have. works out of the box.
[23:40] <drostie> (Well, I should specify that on the Jaunty alpha I had to start knetworkmanager manually.   THey were not certain.  It could have either one...
[23:49] <DaSkreech> JuJuBee: Yeah for most laptops the wifi chipset you get is a dice roll
[23:50] <JuJuBee> How do I check these for compat with linux?
[23:50] <DaSkreech> One of two or three chipsets. Whichever happened to be cheapest the month they made the laptop
[23:50] <DaSkreech> Research
[23:50] <Xenos> Finally figured out why all my Kubuntu installs failed miserably. It didn't like my USB drives being plugged in...
[23:50] <maco> JuJuBee: intel and atheros are both win on linux
[23:51] <maco> JuJuBee: someone said above that they have the intel 5100 and it works out of the box. intel wifi pretty much always does. atheros, there are 2 possible drivers, so you might need to install the linux-backports-modules package, but that's it
[23:52] <JuJuBee> K, sounds like this is a good one then.  Thanks for the help.
[23:52] <Xenos> It doesn't mind them being plugged in now (detects fine etc), but froze installation on drive detection bit every time until I plugged them out. (The USB drives)
[23:57] <jonatas> boa noite a todos
[23:58] <jonatas> olha pessoal instalei linux no meu pc e ate gostei so tem um problema minha webcam nao funciona sera q alguem pode me ajudar
[23:59] <maco> !pt | jonatas