[06:20] <obounaim> Good morning
[06:21] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello, obounaim, how can I help you?
[06:23] <obounaim> Thanks JoseeAntonioR, I'm just greeting everybody


[03:02] <Tarminquay> Hey.
[03:02] <Tarminquay> I've found Ubuntu GNOME the best flavor yet.
[03:03] <adueppen> Tarminquay: I would agree
[03:04] <LinDol> hi all
[03:04] <adueppen> LinDol: hello
[03:05] <Tarminquay> adueppen: I'm running mine on a Zotac CI540.
[03:05] <Tarminquay> Highly recommended. Installation was a breeze. It's totally silent.
[03:06] <adueppen> Tarminquay: I'm running it on my crappy computer. Core 2 duo, GT 730, 3.5GB RAM
[03:07] <Tarminquay> adueppen: There's a promotion right now. You can get the CI520 barebones for next to nothing.
[03:07] <Tarminquay> They're clearing them out.
[03:07] <Tarminquay> New versions coming.
[03:07] <Tarminquay> About $200 USD.
[03:07] <Tarminquay> Same chip as you find in the Surface Pro 3 i3.
[03:08] <adueppen> Tarminquay: I'd have to pass on that for the moment since I'm saving up for a chromebook
[03:09] <Tarminquay> A Chromebook!
[03:10] <adueppen> Tarminquay: aka cheap linux laptop
[03:10] <Tarminquay> You're going to use crouton to run Ubuntu?
[03:10] <adueppen> Tarminquay: of course
[03:10] <Tarminquay> Does the sound work when you do that?
[03:10] <Tarminquay> In the YT video I saw he couldn't get the sound to work and other things.
[03:10] <adueppen> Not sure, but as long as it still works on chrome OS, I'm fine
[03:11] <adueppen> since crouton is running both OSs at once
[03:11] <Tarminquay> Ah, interesting.
[03:11] <Tarminquay> I personally can't stand Google because it's such extensive spyware
[03:11] <adueppen> Also, where are you finding that Zotac mini PC for $200?
[03:11] <Tarminquay> but if you can run a good version of Ubuntu on it..
[03:11] <adueppen> I'm only finding it for around $400
[03:12] <Tarminquay> http://www.ncix.com/detail/zotac-ci520nano-u-1-x-204pin-36-113584-1210.htm
[03:12] <Tarminquay> This is Canadian pricing.
[03:12] <Tarminquay> So if you use American funds it works out to about $200.
[03:13] <Tarminquay> I contacted Zotac. It's not a promotion limited to NCIX. It's with Zotac. So anyone who sells the unit should honor that pricing.
[03:14] <adueppen> hmm. Can't seem to find that price on any other US websites
[03:14] <Tarminquay> http://www.shopbot.ca/m/?m=zotac+ci520
[03:15] <Tarminquay> But you can always buy from Canada and take advantage of the exchange rate, no?
[03:15] <Tarminquay> http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Direct_Canada
[03:16] <Tarminquay> Direct Canada is a very trusted reseller. Extremely high reviews.
[03:16] <adueppen> I might have some success on /r/buildapcproxy too
[03:17] <adueppen> I'd rather save up for a bit longer and build a better computer though
[03:17] <Tarminquay> Check out the reviews of the CI520.
[03:18] <Tarminquay> Everywhere I've looked I've seen 5-star user reviews. It just works.
[03:20] <adueppen> I'm just kinda hoping to build a PC eventually
[03:23] <Tarminquay> A NUC or a mini ITX or full size?
[03:23] <adueppen> Full size
[06:48] <Tarminquay> How's the resource consumption of GNOME vs MATE?
[06:48] <Tarminquay> In terms of CPU demands.
[06:57] <nome8> hello every one I need help.
[06:58] <nome8>  /UNIGNORE lonix
[06:59] <Tarminquay> I purchased an i3 MSI Cubi.
[06:59] <nome8> hello every one I need help.
[06:59] <nome8> hello every one I need help.hello every one I need help.
[06:59] <Tarminquay> I wonder if it's powerful enough to enjoy Ubuntu GNOME or if I should stick to MATE.
[06:59] <nome8> hello every one I need help.
[07:00] <nome8> hi Tarminquay
[07:02] <nome8> can you help me
[08:40] <lindol> hi all
[08:40] <lindol> "All font settings are available in the Fonts tab – here you can not only change system fonts, but hinting and antialiasing, too. " I am thinking about this meaning.
[08:41] <lindol> Could you explain to me about  meaning of ", too"
[08:41] <lindol> ?
[08:42] <lindol> "here you can not only change sysem fonts, " -> You can not change system fonts only on Fonts tab in TweakTool
[08:42] <lindol> and "but hinting and antialiasing," -> but you can change hinting and antialiasing"
[08:43] <lindol> but i can not understand meaning of ", too". T_T
[08:43] <lindol> please help me
[11:22] <lindol> "While OpenJDK works 99% of the time, some may want true Oracle Java. " Could you explain to me about what does "works 99% of the time" mean?
[11:22] <lindol> i mean "tiime" ??
[11:51] <bgardner> lindol, Questions about OpenJDK are not really ubuntu-gnome questions.  Try asking that in ##java.
[11:54] <lindol> bgardner, oh.. sorry for my english..
[11:55] <lindol> I just ask to what does wiki page have meaning
[11:55] <lindol> on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/HowTo
[11:55] <lindol> this page.
[11:55] <lindol> this is full word :)
[11:56] <lindol> There is full word in Install Java section :)
[11:57] <bgardner> When it says OpenJDK "works 99% of the time" that means that the OpenJDK will work for MOST applications and utilities that use it, but not ALL of them.
[11:57] <lindol> ah...
[11:57] <lindol> I understood now
[11:57] <lindol> bgardner, Thank you for your detail :)
[11:58] <lindol> Could you explain to me about "All font settings are available in the Fonts tab – here you can not only change system fonts, but hinting and antialiasing, too. "?
[11:58] <lindol> I have not understood "too."
[11:58] <lindol> meaning T_T
[11:59] <lindol> I think that sentence is "you can not  change system fonts only in Fonts TAB, but you can change hinting and antialiasing,"
[12:00] <lindol> but i dont' understand meaning of "too",
[12:00] <bgardner> lindol, "too" means "also"
[12:04] <lindol> oh.. I think that sentence is "you can change system fonts, also you can change hinting and antialiasing"
[12:04] <lindol> is this right?
[12:09] <lindol> oh! sorry, I think It was meaning of "you can not just change system fonts, you should change with hinting, antialiasing"
[12:33] <lindol> hmm
[12:41] <lindol> darkxst, oh!! nice to meet you :)
[12:42] <lindol> darkxst, Could you help to me about some sentence? :)
[13:37] <albindoesubuntu> Hi there!
[13:38] <albindoesubuntu> I want to try out the Ubuntu GNOME
[13:39] <albindoesubuntu> Can someone give me a torrent link for the latest ISO file, please?
[13:39] <albindoesubuntu> Never mind
[13:45] <albindoesubuntu> Just got it
[17:16] <guruprasad> A few days back I installed Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 on my new desktop with Nvidia GTX 970 GPU. I have it using the nouveau drivers and not the proprietary one.
[17:17] <guruprasad> When I restart my computer from Ubuntu GNOME and login to my account from GDM, I see a very brief flash of my desktop as it was before the previous reboot before I see a black screen till the desktop is ready.
[17:17] <guruprasad> Is this a known issue?
[17:17] <guruprasad> Or should I report a bug for this?
[20:11] <Dumle29> hmm just upgraded to 15.10
[20:11] <Dumle29> how do I get rid of that danm tray thing at the bottom of my screen?
[20:13] <adueppen> Dumle29: you press the arrow to make it go away
[20:13] <Dumle29> Well I'd like it gone permanently
[20:13] <Dumle29> it seems to keep popping back
[20:19] <adueppen> Dumle29: I think I recall seeing an extension that disabled it.
[20:29] <Dumle29> adueppen: I'll look for that then :)
[20:29] <Dumle29> thanks :)
[23:49] <Dumle29> adueppen: Here it is incase anyone else asks :) https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/967/hide-legacy-tray/
[23:49] <Dumle29> And there's also this :) https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/967/hide-legacy-tray/


[11:25] <foerdi> can someone give me a hand with launchpad bzr doingyourownbranch thing? (windows-client)
[11:28] <karni> foerdi: lemme see
[11:28]  * karni checks
[11:30] <karni> foerdi: you'd have to help me looking it up on lp ;) is it this one? https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-windows-installer
[11:43] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:46] <karni> morning duanedesign
[13:51] <ralsina> alecu, dobey, thisfred, nessita standup in 9 minutes
[13:53] <Chipaca> lifeless: ping
[13:53] <Chipaca> lifeless: foerdi is trying to use bzr in windows, and is getting some strange errors, and I'm not sure how to help him :)
[13:53] <Chipaca> lifeless: would you know who I should ask?
[13:54] <bac> hey beuno what is the story with thunderbird 3 and contact syncing?  is it forthcoming?
[13:54] <beuno> bac, JamesTait has a plugin to use couch directly
[13:54] <beuno> which may work for you
[13:54] <bac> beuno:  i'd be happy to test it
[13:55] <beuno> bac, https://launchpad.net/hedera
[13:55] <beuno> that is the future
[13:55] <bac> sweet
[13:55] <beuno> we should hire the guy who did that...
[13:55] <JamesTait> bac: It's still a work in progress, but I'm hoping to dedicate some time to it over the next two weeks.
[13:55] <beuno> ...oh wait!  we did  \o/
[13:55] <JamesTait> :D
[13:56] <bac> JamesTait:  is it functional?  should i try it?
[13:56] <bac> ah, i see  the caveat.  i'll give it a go
[13:57] <JamesTait> bac: Current status: it's still in (fairly heavy) development, but it will push contacts from your Thunderbird addressbook into Couch, and if you delete contacts in Ubuntu One/Couch they will be deleted in Thunderbird.
[13:58] <JamesTait> So it's mostly one-way at the moment. I'd back up your addressbook just in case. ;)
[14:00] <bac> JamesTait:  ok, that scenario is no good for me.  i have my contacts up on U1 and just need to pull them into tb3
[14:00] <ralsina> alecu, dobey, thisfred, nessita ping, standup in 1 minute
[14:01] <ralsina> oh, right thisfred is on holidays now
[14:01] <nessita> ralsina: is your clock syncing with ntp?
[14:01] <alecu> me
[14:01] <ralsina> should be :-)
[14:01] <ralsina> me
[14:01] <alecu> seems like it's not :-)
[14:01] <JamesTait> bac: That's the difficult part. I've got a branch that's working towards it but nothing that works yet.
[14:01] <nessita> ralsina: yesterday you started one minute before mine, and now you're saying one minute left when is already o'clock
[14:01] <nessita> me
[14:01] <ralsina> nessita: oh, you mean MY clock, not my computer's :-)
[14:02] <nessita> ralsina: do you use another clock other than the one in your computers?
[14:02]  * ralsina believes 11:01 is the new 11:00
[14:02] <ralsina> nessita: phone
[14:02] <ralsina> nessita: I mean, my phone's
[14:03] <nessita> :-)
[14:03] <nessita> so, only dobey missing?
[14:03] <nessita> and mandel?
[14:03] <ralsina> he seems to be away, amndel is on holiday
[14:03] <alecu> nessita, mandel is on vacation.
[14:03] <ralsina> so it's just us
[14:03] <nessita> he is? didn't know
[14:04] <ralsina> ok, alecu, start please
[14:04] <alecu> DONE: worked on bug 690233, so zeitgeist is optional now. Catched up with review day megathread. Found a way to make mozmill start test couchdb instances.
[14:04] <alecu> TODO: make mozmill work
[14:04] <alecu> BLOCKED: need a windows review for the optional-ziggy branch
[14:04] <alecu> NOTE: Tomorrow is my EOY
[14:04]  * alecu catapults a mobile ntp client ralsina's way
[14:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 690233 in ubuntuone-client "zeitgeist needed to run the client (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690233
[14:04] <ralsina> DONE: a couple of reviews, finally got a working Maverick box, administrivia
[14:04] <ralsina> TODO: start on the windows setup for working with mandel, Natty setup.
[14:04] <ralsina> Blocked: bug #690849 is hurting me
[14:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 690849 in canonical-identity-provider "401 error in api.accounts.me() (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690849
[14:05] <ralsina> nessita?
[14:05] <nessita> ralsina: pass the ball to me! :-)
[14:05] <nessita> DONE: bug 687523 (YEY!) and nominated it for SRU, bug 690649, chased branch reviews, answered Chipaca's reviews novel, debugging ralsina's issue in bug 690849
[14:05] <nessita> TODO: more debug for ussoc bug, more branch review chasing, more for adding devices tab to u1cp, ussoc package release
[14:05] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[14:05] <nessita> NEXT: dobey
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 687523 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 4 other projects) "SSO service creates two tokens for one request (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687523
[14:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 690649 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Show devices on Devices tab (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/690649
[14:05]  * ralsina keeps forgetting things. Old age.
[14:06] <ralsina> ok, dobey didn't make it I'll talk to him when he shows up
[14:06] <ralsina> any notes, questions, etc. about the standup?
[14:06] <nessita> not from me
[14:06] <alecu> ralsina, what kind of windows will you be setting up? I can surely use a windows vbox, so it's better if we do different versions, right?
[14:07] <ralsina> alecu: I have windows seven home premium
[14:07] <ralsina> alecu: and I can have a XP home if needed
[14:07] <beuno> alecu, you get windows vista!
[14:07] <beuno> the holy grail of failed OSes
[14:08] <alecu> ralsina, I think I have the 7 pro that came with the laptop
[14:08] <alecu> beuno, nah, I think that belongs to windows ME
[14:08] <beuno> ah, true, I erased that from my memories
[14:08] <ralsina> on administrative notes, you all should put me as your manager in canonicaladmin but that can't be done yet. hr is taking care of it. Until then, I will approve swaps and stuff by IRC ;-)
[14:09] <nessita> ralsina: so we should not add those leave request on admin? or we should do both?
[14:09] <ralsina> nessita: both
[14:09] <nessita> ack
[14:09] <ralsina> but ask me first so we don't bother john
[14:09] <ralsina> so he only gets the ones that I approve first
[14:09] <CardinalFang> karni, hi hi.  How goes things?
[14:09] <nessita> ralsina: right, I'll be adding now what we talked about uyesterday
[14:10] <ralsina> nessita: cool
[14:10] <karni> CardinalFang: hi Chad :)
[14:10] <ralsina> so, nothing else?
[14:10] <nessita> nopes
[14:10] <dobey> λ DONE: client upload, logilab-common fix, 690291
[14:10] <dobey> λ TODO: 683351, 690291, client upload, backports
[14:10] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[14:10] <ralsina> a late dobey comes running :-)
[14:11] <karni> CardinalFang: you'd be surprized, beuno wants to find a way to supercharge my time spend on the project. in the mean time, I'm working on streamlining sycdaemon<->syncclient
[14:11] <ralsina> dobey: if you have the logs any questions about the rest of the things?
[14:11] <karni> CardinalFang: we've decided to set the date for AndroidU1 feature-compatibility before the end of this year, so.. in 2 weeks at most
[14:12] <karni> CardinalFang: I'm aware you have dedicated some time for it now, so I've probably broken your schedule somehow
[14:12] <ralsina> one last thing: weekly meeting at mumble later
[14:12] <ralsina> at ... 12:15 my time, no idea for you dobey :-)
[14:12] <ralsina> it's in the calendar
[14:12] <ralsina> and eom
[14:13] <nessita> eom!
[14:13] <dobey> 1 hour
[14:13] <ralsina> dobey: relative measurements. good idea! ;-)
[14:13] <karni> CardinalFang: I'm sorry for keeping you back, I do feel terrible for that.
[14:13] <CardinalFang> karni, I'm trying to work standalone and I'll integrate it later.
[14:14] <dobey> that's all that time is anyway, a relative measurement
[14:14] <karni> CardinalFang: are you using AU1 or U1F base ?
[14:15] <CardinalFang> Hopefully, the app will call start this service, and it will work with any codebase with a API I can plug in.
[14:16] <karni> CardinalFang: isn't ACTION_CAMERA_BUTTON triggered and *handled* by the focused font activity?
[14:17] <CardinalFang> What I'm writing is glue between some built-in content providers and some API that you've said is one or two function calls.  I'm not doing anything with a camera now.  Just data providers.
[14:17] <CardinalFang> karni, ^
[14:18] <karni> aah, ok then! I haven't decided wheter you should bind to the service, but I think a regular Intent would be the easiest way to go.
[14:19] <dobey> nessita: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/natty/logilab-common/namespace-packages/+merge/43841 maybe you could help with the discussion there
[14:19]  * nessita looks
[14:20] <karni> CardinalFang: we can definitely discuss on the API, providing a URI to the resource would be even more sensible than a raw path (in case of some custom apps that want to use it)
[14:20] <karni> CardinalFang: if you have any suggestions, don't hesitate to hit me up.
[14:23] <nessita> dobey: have you tried this with natty? since in maverick I have pylint Version: 0.21.1-1 and python-logilab-astng Version: 0.20.1-1
[14:24] <nessita> dobey: ah, but python-logilab-common is 0.50.3-1ubuntu1~maverick1
[14:24] <nessita> that's the package we care about, right?
[14:24] <dobey> nessita: logilab-common is, yes
[14:24] <dobey> nessita: but clearly the patch does something, because your branch landed with it, and failed without it
[14:24] <dobey> nessita: and that was on narwhal
[14:31] <bac> beuno: do you recall the command to completely wipe out U1 contacts?
[14:46] <nessita> dobey: comment added, correct if necessary please
[14:47] <nessita> Chipaca: would you please take a look to the last comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/natty/logilab-common/namespace-packages/+merge/43841 and add any comment you find relevant?
[15:16] <ralsina> nessita, alecu, dobey, meeting in mumble now
[15:17] <nessita> ralsina: we're all there! :-)
[18:24] <lifeless> Chipaca: #bzr
[18:24] <lifeless> anyne there:)
[18:26] <Chipaca> lifeless: d'oh. sorry.
[18:33] <dobey> nessita: do you know which particular piece of code waas removed from desktopcouch for the u1 pairing stuff?
[18:34] <nessita> dobey: the pairing code is there, and I do have the snippet that implements it. What is not there is the glue to make the pairing run
[18:35] <nessita> which I have no idea how that glue looks, nor where it should be placed
[18:36] <dobey> which is to say it should be run when the NewCredentials signal happens from ubuntu-sso-client, with the ubuntuone app name?
[18:36] <nessita> dobey: nopes, that's the current pairing code. What is needed is that that code (the one that connects to sso signals) is run
[18:36] <ralsina> dobey, nessita: mandel is in #u1internals, check with him?
[18:37] <mandel> ralsina: and here :)
[18:37] <ralsina> hehe
[18:37] <dobey> ok
[18:37] <dobey> mandel: aren't you on holiday?
[18:38] <mandel> dobey: im his evil twin brother :)
[18:38]  * dobey hides the women and children
[18:39] <mandel> nessita, dobey: I'm writing the glue atm will be done in a few minutes (natty seems to be broken for me atm)
[18:39] <nessita> mandel: ack
[18:40] <mandel> nessita: all nattys are temperamental
[18:40]  * nessita nods
[18:41] <dobey> ok
[18:41] <dobey> i was just about to make a branch to do it
[18:43] <dobey> guess i won't bother then
[18:46] <mandel> dobey: :)
[18:46] <mandel> nessita: do you remember the bug number of the sso issue?
[18:46] <nessita> mandel: nopes but I can quickly find it
[18:47] <mandel> nessita: can you do me that favour, I must have lost it
[18:47] <nessita> bug 689772
[18:47]  * mandel is bad with keeping things sorted
[18:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 689772 in desktopcouch "Desktopcouch and Ubuntu One pairing is missing (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/689772
[18:47] <mandel> nessita: gracias
[18:47] <nessita> mandel: I'm too, but firefox is awesome at that
[18:47] <nessita> :-)
[19:19] <bac> honk: contact sync problem
[19:23] <rye> bac, evolution to cloud?
[19:24] <bac> rye: either way
[19:24] <bac> yes evo
[19:24] <rye> bac, could you please download http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/ubuntuone-desktopcouch-diag.py , run it and pastebin what it prints out?
[19:24] <bac> rye: ok
[19:26] <bac> rye: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/544568/
[19:27] <bac> rye: i've tried reinstalling following the FAQs and may just be in a completely messed up state
[19:29] <rye> bac, ok, at least one db synchronized (bookmarks and notes), so it looks like server connection issue
[19:30] <rye> bac, could you please shut down desktopcouch  (/usr/lib/desktopcouch/desktopcouch-stop; killall desktopcouch-service) then remove ~/.cache/desktop-couch/log/* and run /usr/lib/desktop-couch/desktopcouch-service in another terminal and see whether it shows any successful replications
[19:30] <bac> rye: fwiw, evolution reports unable to open address book
[19:31] <rye> bac, are you running maverick, lucid or natty?
[19:32] <bac> maverick
[19:32] <bac> ResourceNotFound 'db_not_found'
[19:33] <rye> bac, ok, do you have 'DesktopCouch' entries in seahorse (Passwords and Encryption Keys in System / Preferences) ?
[19:33]  * rye has not yet got to the point of adding these checks to the script
[19:33]  * rye is going away for 10 minutes
[19:34] <bac> currently, seahorse shows two desktopcouch and one U1
[19:34] <mandel> nessita: ping
[19:34] <mandel> ralsina_afk: ping?
[19:35] <bac> rye: ping me when you return.  thanks.
[19:36] <nessita> mandel: pong
[19:37] <mandel> nessita: branch with the sso code is here: lp:~mandel/desktopcouch/add_sso_package
[19:37] <mandel> nessita: I'm talking with CardinalFang about it in #desktopcouch
[19:37] <nessita> ok
[19:39] <ralsina> mandel pong
[19:39] <ralsina> mandel: great
[19:49] <karni> verterok: volume identifiers are unique, aren't they? (previously I asked if volume+node pairs are unique)
[19:50] <verterok> karni: yes, volumeIds are unique
[19:51] <karni> verterok: thank you :)
[19:51] <rye> bac, returned
[19:51] <bac> rye: yes
[19:51] <rye> bac, ok, 2 d-c and one u1 token. evolution reports that it is unable to open address book
[19:52] <bac> rye: right
[19:52] <rye> bac, except of shutting down evolution with --force-shutdown I do not have any more troubleshooting solutions at the moment
[19:53] <bac> rye: i have tried that
[19:53] <rye> bac, ok, is local addressbook working?
[19:53] <bac> rye: yes
[19:54] <bac> rye: here is what i'd like to do:  u1 contacts are fully of duplicates so i'd like to clean it out to start over, push new set from iphone, and then pull down to evolution.  that's where i'm trying to be.
[19:55] <bac> not sure if that makes the situation simpler or not
[19:55] <rye> bac, well, this means we can drop local and remote databases which will clear sync state and try synchronizing that
[19:55] <bac> ok
[19:56] <karni> verterok: I'm sorry that sometimes I don't greet. even if I have a few days coding break being busy with college, it all sometimes blends for me as if it was one really long day ;)
[19:56] <rye> bac, that wil require two scripts - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/FAQ/HowDoIDeleteACouchDBDatabase
[19:56] <verterok> karni: heh, np...I know the feeling :)
[19:56] <karni> :)
[19:59] <bac> rye: done
[19:59] <bac> yay, 0 contact on U1
[20:33] <ralsina> I'm leaving in about 15 minutes, so if anyone needs anything fom me he should speak up :-)
[20:33] <ralsina> or she, of course
[20:33] <ralsina> or it
[20:35] <nessita> :-)
[20:43] <bac> rye: deleting contact dbs on server and locally got me going again.  thanks for your help.
[20:47] <rye> bac, thanks for your cooperation, i will poke the developer harder about evolution plugin not being cooperative enough
[20:47] <bac> rye: np.  just glad it works
[20:48] <bac> we'll see if the iphone plugin can push them all and round trip back to evolution
[20:48] <ralsina> ok, bye everyone!
[20:49] <nessita> bye ralsina
[21:00]  * karni finally has a long day with u1f
[21:59] <karni> any ongoing maintanance around authentication?
[21:59] <mandel> karni: not that I know, why?
[22:00] <karni> mandel: I'm testing my android app, and all of a sudden auth dance doesn't finish ;)
[22:00]  * karni reinstalls the app
[22:00] <karni> I haven't changed the auth code, and it was working few min ago, that's why I was wondering.
[22:01] <mandel> karni: let me see if I get someone from the servers to confirm :)
[22:01] <karni> mandel: before I bother you
[22:01] <karni> let me check one last time
[22:01] <mandel> sure :)
[22:01]  * karni adds the device in the browser
[22:03] <karni> mandel: I see my client start authentication, but it just doesn't finish. no exeptions, no feedback. one thing that I have learned is Android sometimes plays tricks with users ;<
[22:03] <karni> mandel: how's Windows beta going?
[22:03] <mandel> karni: le me double check with the server guys
[22:04] <karni> thank you
[22:04] <mandel> karni: windows, is going well, getting desktopcouch to work on windows, and doing some crazy things with WCF, COM and python, is interesting :)
[22:04] <karni> mandel: sounds really great :) I'm happy for it
[22:05]  * karni removes multipile device entries from the WebUI
[22:06] <rye> karni, hm....
[22:06]  * karni checks again
[22:07] <karni> perhaps it's the 7 hours straight coding, but I'm quite sure of what I'm doing ;)
[22:07] <mandel> karni: rye s having hte same issues, he is taking a look
[22:07] <karni> D/SyncDaemon( 6248): onClientAuthenticated
[22:07] <karni> there it is
[22:08] <mandel> karni: he has to get the api logs, so it will take him some time
[22:08] <rye> karni, ok, synchronizing...
[22:08] <rye> weird
[22:08] <karni> it worked now..
[22:08] <karni> and there goes the delta fileinfo list :)
[22:09] <karni> rye: if one day you see me adding crazy number of machines, it's just testing auth hahahah
[22:09] <mandel> karni: and I'm guessing you did not change a thing, right?
[22:09] <mandel> karni: haha I do the same, worst thing is not too know if it is your code or the server side
[22:10] <karni> mandel: I did, but 101% unrelated 2 lines, I will now reverse that and make sure it is still working
[22:11]  * karni reinstalls
[22:13] <mandel> karni: ok, I'll try to get you a non european to be here, I'm on holidays, and it is 11:30 pm :)
[22:13] <mandel> rye: you should go to bed to, else, you will die soon :P
[22:13] <karni> mandel: haha, take are :)
[22:13] <karni> it's 23PM, but I'm certainly not on holidays (yet!)
[22:14] <karni> * 11:13 PM
[22:14] <mandel> karni: well, I need to rest, I'm going to ski tom :)
[22:14] <karni> take care mandel :)
[22:15] <mandel> laters :)
[22:15] <karni> mandel: PS it works, so it was just temporary server/conneciton issue
[22:15] <karni> ;)
[22:15] <karni> rye: it must have been temporary, thanks for the heads up
[22:30] <dobey> later all
[22:36] <karni> night everybody!
[23:33] <zroysch> how long is it supposed to take ubuntu one to synchronize my files? its been sitting here saying "synchronization in progress" for at least three hours. it remains at 0.0%


 I got back yesterday evening. It was good, but it wasn't our usual open source crowd. Nothing exploded during the workshop, and they seemed to be interested in Ubuntu + Cordova
[07:49] <dholbach> nice :-)
[07:49] <dholbach> good work!
[07:49] <dpm> I'm going to do a hangout on air with the workshop now that I've got the presentation, probably some time next week
[07:49] <dholbach> nice!
[07:50] <dholbach> may we could invite dbarth's team to it as well?
[07:50] <dpm> yeah, good idea
[08:14] <silverlion> good morning everybody
[08:21] <davidcalle> dholbach mhall119 balloons dpm popey, I have a condo board meeting today at 3pm, will do my best to be on time to the team meeting, but it's a possibility that I miss it completely (it's not a "friendly" meeting)
[08:22] <dpm> ok, good luck davidcalle
[08:22] <dholbach> *crossing fingers*
[08:23] <davidcalle> Thanks guys. Btw, I've talked some more to paty and steph from Design and they'll wait for our ack to release their new guide.
[08:41] <czajkowski> Aloha
[08:42] <popey> yo
[09:34] <czajkowski> chocolate croissants ftw!
[09:37] <dholbach> don't let davidcalle catch you saying that :)
[09:39] <davidcalle> It's either pain au chocolat or croissant, you can't have both, pick a side, sacrebleu!
[09:40] <dholbach> crêpe suzette!
[09:42] <czajkowski> davidcalle: fine no co working here for you then
[09:42] <czajkowski> :p
[09:44] <davidcalle> czajkowski, but I'm hungry now! :D
[09:48] <czajkowski> davidcalle: https://twitter.com/Czajkowski/status/600961082094661632
[09:48] <czajkowski> nyom nyom!
[09:48] <davidcalle> This is just mean
[09:49] <czajkowski> wait till you see what we have for lunch!
[09:49]  * davidcalle goes to the boulangerie, brb
[09:51] <czajkowski> lol
[11:44] <czajkowski> listad
[13:20]  * czajkowski wonders did davidcalle get lost
[13:25] <dholbach> czajkowski, he had a non-work meeting he had to go to
[13:27] <czajkowski> ah
[13:27] <czajkowski> :)
[13:27] <czajkowski> thought he got lost inside a boulangerie :)
[15:00] <popey> \o/ team meeting
[15:00] <popey> TEAM TEAM TEAM TEAM TEAM!
[15:01] <czajkowski> HELLO!!!
[15:01] <popey> Ou est la?
[15:01] <mhall119> popey is far too happy this morning
[15:01]  * mhall119 blames czajkowski
[15:01] <popey> full of tea/coffee
[15:01] <popey> wise
[15:01] <czajkowski> and nyommy lunch
[15:01] <czajkowski> and pain au chocolates!
[15:07] <mhall119> pain in the chocolates?
[15:37] <dholbach> balloons, mhall119, popey, dpm: standup notes time? :)
[15:37] <dpm> \o/
[15:38] <dholbach> shall I go first?
[15:39] <dpm> go for it
[15:39] <dholbach> cool
[15:39] <dholbach> DONE:
[15:39] <dholbach>  - help-app: blogged/asked for more feedback on Daniel McGuire's  mockups
[15:39] <dholbach>  - snappy: worked on node.js/python packaging tutorials, fixed a few bugs
[15:39] <dholbach>    together with Oliver along the way
[15:39] <dholbach>  - snappy: another community planning call (short summary: tutorial docs
[15:39] <dholbach>    for snappifying first, work with external communities to find out
[15:39] <dholbach>    about use-cases, improve tools, run online training events)
[15:39] <dholbach>  - (misc) CC business
[15:39] <dholbach> STARTED:
[15:39] <dholbach>  - help-app: pad.lv/1433210 (reenable .link-cta-ubuntu, needs more work
[15:39] <dholbach>    on tests)
[15:39] <dholbach> BLOCKED:
[15:39] <dholbach>  - help-app: part 1 of 1446493 (set up site for content negotiation)
[15:39] <dholbach>    (with IS, RT#79340 - dpm to prod(?))
[15:40] <dpm> thanks dholbach, sorry I've not managed to talk to IS yet
[15:40] <dholbach> no worries
[15:40] <dholbach> that's why I'm keeping that line in the standup notes :)
[15:40] <dpm> :)
[15:41] <dpm> any questions for Daniel?
[15:41] <dpm> mhall119, do you want to go next?
[15:42] <dpm> I'll go next, then
[15:43] <dpm> DONE:
[15:43] <dpm> - Cordova worskhop at Phonegap Day
[15:44] <dpm> - Today has been mostly catching up and admin
[15:44] <dpm> DOING:
[15:44] <dpm> - Cordova worskhop follow up with dbarth. Summary: we need to improve our cordova story
[15:45] <dpm> I'm not blocked on anything atm
[15:45] <mhall119> DONE:
[15:45] <mhall119> deployed update to devportal to include 15.04 API docs
[15:45] <mhall119> INPROGRESS:
[15:45] <mhall119> finishing recruiting and organization for UbuCon@SELF
[15:45] <mhall119> including getting our booth supplies in order with msm
[15:46] <mhall119> NEXT:
[15:46] <mhall119> Finish UbuCon@SELF schedule
[15:46] <mhall119> write donations funding reports that are now quite late
[15:46] <mhall119> Make sure I am ready to record the first UE update podcast with popey
[15:46] <mhall119> BLOCKED:
[15:47] <mhall119> nothing
[15:47] <dpm> yay
[15:47] <dpm> mhall119, when's the first UE update podcast planned?
[15:47] <mhall119> dpm: recording on Friday, publishing on Monday (right popey?)
[15:48] <popey> s/monday/friday if we can
[15:48] <popey> want to get it out the door asap
[15:48] <popey> not lingering around
[15:49] <dholbach> (removed old stuff from the topic - sorry for the noise)
[15:49] <dpm> thanks dholbach
[15:50] <dpm> if there are no questions for mhall119, popey, do you want to go next?
[15:51] <popey> DONE: Mail sent inviting content for podcast.
[15:51] <popey> Unblocked broken jenkins jobs after ~6.5h.
[15:51] <popey> Reviewed & tested calendar & docviewer branches
[15:51] <popey> & spent far too long testing on desktop and device with autopilot.
[15:51] <popey> Uploaded new Telegram to store
[15:51] <popey> Prototyped simple HTML5 game & uploaded to store
[15:51] <popey> NEXT: Upload updated Calendar & Docviewer to store
[15:51] <popey> BLOCKED: (not blocked but wasted time on) Many broken / flaky autopilot tests leading to inconsistent results.
[15:52] <mhall119> popey: no way, don't crash me is HTML5?
[15:52] <popey> ya
[15:52] <mhall119> dude, I had no idea, I assumed it was QML
[15:52] <dholbach> oooh, new telegram
[15:53] <popey> (I didn't write it)
[15:53] <popey> it was a test.
[15:54] <dpm> popey, do the Telegram devs have permissions to do uploads?
[15:54] <popey> no
[15:55] <dpm> popey, are we using the same coreapps credentials I guess, and if so, could you give them to them to offload that from your plate?
[15:55] <popey> could do. it was a 5 minute job though
[15:55] <popey> did it while you were discussing mhall119's tasks :)
[15:55] <mhall119> dpm: we just need to keep poking beuno about teams in myapps
[15:55] <popey> that too
[15:56] <dpm> popey, I know, but it's the sum of things. I'd recommend to give them the credentials so that it's their job to do the uploads
[15:56] <dpm> mhall119, true. I think it's probably low on their priority list, though
[15:56] <popey> okay. I'll give it to them
[15:57] <dpm> cool
[15:57] <mhall119> dpm: ack, hence the need for poking :)
[15:58] <dpm> :)
[15:58] <dpm> thanks popey
[15:58] <dpm> balloons, are you around or busy at the QA sprint?
[15:58] <dholbach> I think he was looking for internet somewhere as the internet in the hotel was exploding
[15:59] <dpm> ok, in this case we can wrap it up here and wish a nice holiday to dholbach
[15:59] <dholbach> big hugs everyone!
[15:59] <popey> Happy holidays hippie!
[15:59] <dholbach> see you next week on Tuesday :)
[15:59] <dholbach> :-D
[15:59] <dpm> now it's our chance to assign him work items while he's away ;)
[16:00] <popey> Muhahahahaha
[16:00] <dholbach> right right
[16:00] <dholbach> whatever
[16:00] <dholbach> bye! :)
[16:00] <popey> o/
[16:00] <dholbach> hugs!
[16:20]  * popey heads home
[16:47] <jose> dpm: hey, tienes tiempo para un Hangout?
[16:48] <dpm> jose, claro
[17:03] <dpm> jose, karni
[17:04] <dpm> #ubuntu-telegram


[06:26] <Kilos> o/
[20:36] <wxl> hey folks how does a non-ubuntu member edit help.ubuntu.com? is that a thing?
[20:36] <knome> i guess you mean help.ubuntu.com/community ?
[20:37] <wxl> knome: yep
[20:37] <knome> wxl, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors
[20:40] <wxl> knome: and it looks like i need to speak to popey, Himmagery, davidcalle, or mhall119 to get someone added, eh?
[20:40] <knome> yes.


[04:31] <ScottK> Do the Lubuntu powerpc testers IRC?
[05:24] <Noskcaj> ScottK: yes
[05:36] <silverarrow> anyone up?
[05:36] <silverarrow> do you have any mediaplayers in browser after last weeks updates?
[06:13] <jmarsden> ScottK: I have a Powerbook G4... and am on occasional Lubuntu powerbook tester...
[06:13] <ScottK> jmarsden: What I'm really looking for is a Kubuntu powerpc tester.
[06:14] <ScottK> Would you be able to take that for a bit of a spin?
[06:14] <jmarsden> ScottK: I can download an ISO and try a basic install, sure.  Anything in particular I am looking for?
[06:14] <ScottK> (I asked about Lubuntu because that's the only other desktop flavor with powerpc)
[06:15] <ScottK> jmarsden: As many of the test cases as you've got time for. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/240/builds/25832/testcases
[06:15] <ScottK> Even the booting it as a live CD and doing a basic install would be a huge help.
[06:15] <jmarsden> ScottK: OK, it's 11:15PM here and I have work tomorrow, but I'll try at least one :)
[06:16] <ScottK> jmarsden: That's be great.  I understand it being late (I'm on the east coast, so I really need to go to bed)
[06:17] <jmarsden> OK.  Download under way...
[06:17] <ScottK> Excellent.
[06:18] <jmarsden> ScottK: Um, that ISO seems to be oversized... I don't think I can boto a DVD on the old powerbook... ??
[06:19] <ScottK> Ah.  That would be a problem (as it is oversized)
[06:19] <ScottK> I don't suppose it boots to usb either.
[06:19] <jmarsden> I don't know, I have never tried that.
[06:19] <ScottK> I would have thought CD/DVD didn't matter if it could read DVDs, but I confess I didn't try it.
[06:20] <dj_xen> jmarsden: you have, what, a 12" aluminum powerbook?
[06:20] <jmarsden> dj_xen: Yes.
[06:21] <dj_xen> jmarsden: then you're fine booting from dvd. chances are usb will not play nice with you. openfirmware sucks.
[06:21] <jmarsden> OK, I'll find a DVD-R and try it out that way.
[06:21] <dj_xen> dvd+rw works too
[06:22] <ScottK> Good to know.  Thanks dj_xen.
[06:22] <jmarsden> What I have to hand is about 100 CD-R blanks... I don't generally burn DVDs... but I think I have some somewhere :)
[06:23] <dj_xen> there's a way to compress the iso
[06:23] <dj_xen> by removing the 64bit stuff
[06:23] <dj_xen> but i've had bad luck with it
[06:25] <jmarsden> we're in luck... found a stack of 20+ DVD+R blanks under a pile of other things... :)
[06:34] <dholbach> good morning
[06:41] <jibel> good morning dholbach
[06:43] <ganges> hello.. against which package a bug relating to incomplete language support be filed?
[06:46] <jibel> ganges, if it's a missing translation, file it against the project ubuntu-translations
[06:47] <jibel> if it's an untranslatable string, file it directly against the package
[06:48] <dholbach> salut jibel
[07:06] <ganges> jibel: sorry, i was away. I have installed english version and a propmt said, incpmlete lang support. however the end result was 'couldn'
[07:07] <ganges> 'couldn't install full lang support
[07:08] <jmarsden> ScottK: Booted from DVD fine, gets to splash screen (Kubuntu gear wheel with 5 dots underneath)... then seems to hang, optical drive spins down, alt-f1, ctrl-alt-f1 etc do not do anything, capslock key does toggle its LED.  Do you want me to file a bug and officially fail the QA test?
[07:18] <jibel> ganges, ah ok, this bug has been fixed recently. With which image do you have this ?
[07:18] <ganges> desktop, build 20121014
[07:18] <ganges> ubuntu
[07:20] <ganges> jibel: http://imagebin.org/231994, an image if you want to have a look at
[07:22] <jibel> ganges, hm, and a dbus error :/ language-selector would be the package then
[07:23] <ganges> jibel: thank you for your time and suggestion :)
[07:24] <jibel> yw
[07:24] <ganges> jibel: 'package language-selector doesn't exit' ! :(
[07:25] <ganges> *exist
[07:26] <jibel> ganges, language-selector-gnome maybe
[07:27] <ganges> jibel: seems to work :)
[11:57] <ScottK> jmarsden: Yes.  Please.
[12:43] <njin> virtualbox
[13:51] <bladernr_> Hey, anyone have ideas for troubleshooting the dl-ubuntu-test-iso script?  when I run it, it will zsync an ISO up to between 95 and 100%, then hang. It never completes an iso.  I can wget the ISOs manually, but rsync and zsync called from the dl-ubuntu-test-iso script always seem to hang.
[13:51] <smartboyhw> bladernr_, eh where is that script? Never heard of it
[13:52] <bladernr_> it's an older script, in ubuntu-qa-tools on LP
[13:52] <bladernr_> jibel: and some of the older members will know what it is.
[13:53] <jibel> smartboyhw, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ubuntu-qa-tools/master
[13:54] <bladernr_> jibel: thanks, I was just trying to find that again :)
[13:54] <jibel> bladernr_, do you use the latest version, I don't think it's packaged anymore
[13:58] <balloons_> bah, losing nick :-(
[13:58] <smartboyhw> balloons_, release it
[14:18] <patdk-wk> is there a new place I should report jeos installs too large bugs? cause my last bug hasn't even been looked at
[14:20] <balloons> patdk-wk, which bug/.
[14:20] <patdk-wk> #1018542
[14:20] <smartboyhw> Bug 1018542
[14:21] <patdk-wk> been out of country during the beta builds, so I missed them
[14:23] <patdk-wk> hmm, looks to all be the fault of apt
[14:24] <patdk-wk> if it wasn't for apt using up 190megs of diskspace, it would be under limit
[14:26] <balloons> ahh.. did a clean fix it?
[14:26] <patdk-wk> no, a clean won't clean enough
[14:27] <patdk-wk> still 100megs too large
[14:27] <patdk-wk> from the apt pkg databases
[14:37] <balloons> patdk-wk, so this is still happening on the rc images?
[14:38] <balloons> if so, we should ping the server team about it now
[14:38] <patdk-wk> ya, 630M for amd64, and 530M for i386
[14:38] <smartboyhw> Wow....That IS a big diff
[14:39] <patdk-wk> testing iscsi now
[14:40] <patdk-wk> hmm, my iscsi boots still fail :(
[14:40] <smartboyhw> :(
[14:42] <bladernr_> jibel: yeah, I pulled the branch from LP just before I tried using it
[14:43] <bladernr_> jibel: when I manually zsync, I get this: bladernr@transit:/data/cdimages/dvd$ zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com//dvd/current/quantal-dvd-i386.iso
[14:43] <bladernr_> #################### 100.0% 852.7 kBps DONE
[14:43] <bladernr_> Bad line - not a zsync file? "3퐐����������������������������3��ռ"
[14:43] <smartboyhw> !?
[14:43] <bladernr_> wget, as I mentioned before, is successful.
[14:44] <smartboyhw> Why is it showing a KOREAN letter?
[14:44] <bladernr_> oh... bother...
[14:44] <patdk-wk> it's not :)
[14:44] <patdk-wk> it's called utf8 with random binary
[14:44] <bladernr_> I thought zsync would, if in an empty dir, just pull the file.
[14:44] <bladernr_> maybe that's not the case... let me try again in a file that has an existing zsync file
[14:44] <smartboyhw> Uh
[14:45] <balloons> patdk-wk, so I was thinking jeos had some specific requirement.. but they relaxed image sizes this cycle
[14:45] <patdk-wk> balloons, oh? it hasn't been updated on the tracker
[14:45] <jibel> bladernr_, there is no dvd maybe that's the problem,
[14:45] <balloons> patdk-wk, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2012-September/000161.html
[14:45] <jibel> bladernr_, try "dl-ubuntu-test-iso --release=quantal --flavor=ubuntu --variant=desktop"
[14:45] <jibel> does it work ?
[14:45] <bladernr_> jibel: nah, it failed on the desktop isos as well
[14:46] <jibel> bladernr_, any proxy ?
[14:46] <bladernr_> and there IS a DVD, I pulled it via wget
[14:46] <bladernr_> nope
[14:46] <bladernr_> directly connected to cdimages.u.c
[14:46] <bladernr_> err. cdimage.u.c though cdimages goes to the same plaec
[14:46] <patdk-wk> balloons, read that, don't see anything
[14:46] <bladernr_> place
[14:46] <jibel> there is a DVD but old - 20120612
[14:47] <smartboyhw> 20120612? That's like 4 months ago...:P
[14:47] <bladernr_> jibel: I'll retry with the amd64 one that I don't have yet.
[14:48] <bladernr_> and yeah, it's old but it's there... for now, I'm just trying to sort out the mechanism.  and as I said, it did the same thing when pulling the daily-live ISOs as well
[14:50] <jibel> bladernr_, I tried it there and it "Just Works"
[14:50] <jibel> I don't know what this "bad line" error means
[14:50] <bladernr_> jibel: yeah, figures.
[14:51] <bladernr_> jibel: I think that's because I was dumb and was using it in the wrong place :-)
[14:52] <bladernr_> I'll keep playing with it.  Just wish zsync had a verbosity setting or a logging facility :(
[15:06] <patdk-wk> hmm, all my iscsi's are failing to boot :(
[15:06] <balloons> patdk-wk, updated your bug
[15:06] <patdk-wk> I did
[15:06] <patdk-wk>  Ineed to make a new bug for iscsi though
[15:07] <patdk-wk> the last one I did, we got a few different bugs all mixed up into one
[15:07] <patdk-wk> and then I left, and wasn't able to get it all straightened out before I left
[15:21] <balloons> patdk-wk, so what's up with your iscsi's?
[15:26] <njin> com//dvd/current/quantal-dvd-i386.iso
[15:29] <njin> balloons, hallo, when is planned the respin ?
[15:29] <smartboyhw> njin, I think it will be started soon
[15:29] <njin> smartboyhw, i'm waiting ....
[15:29] <smartboyhw> njin, :)
[15:30] <balloons> njin, yes, *soon*
[15:30] <njin> smartboyhw, are you from china ?
[15:30] <smartboyhw> njin, Hong Kong:D
[15:30] <njin> ah, lucky
[15:30] <smartboyhw> njin, ?
[15:31] <njin> i'm from Italy...
[15:31] <smartboyhw> njin, so?
[15:31] <njin> mafia everywhere
[15:31] <smartboyhw> njin, ............that's bad
[15:32] <njin> yes
[15:32] <balloons> njin, lol
[15:32] <smartboyhw> balloons, I don't think it is a good one to lol
[15:33] <balloons> Yakuza everyone smartboyhw ?
[15:33] <balloons> I guess I missed it.. anyways
[15:36] <jamespage> patdk-wk, what issue are you seeing with iscsi?
[15:37] <patdk-wk> two issues
[15:37] <patdk-wk> iscsi attempts to start before nic are online/setup
[15:37] <patdk-wk> second issue, the iscsi script can't figure out it's target, even though it's in the config correctly
[15:37] <patdk-wk> just got done writing it all up
[15:37] <patdk-wk> bug 1066945
[15:43]  * balloons looks
[15:48] <patdk-wk> looks like the testcase info needs to be updated for jeos
[15:49] <balloons> patdk-wk, I'll take a look at that now
[15:49] <patdk-wk> guy replied to my bug report not very good :(
[15:49] <patdk-wk> but it sounds like the new limit is 650MB, though I can't locate any info anywhere to back that up
[15:57] <balloons> patdk-wk, yes..
[15:57] <balloons> jamespage, is the new limit for install sizes documented anywhere? ^^
[15:58] <jamespage> balloons, the MP for the server documentation just got updated
[15:58] <jamespage> pushed rather
[16:00] <jamespage> patdk-wk, a fix for the " iscsistart: TargetName not set. Exiting iscsistart" problem is in quantal-proposed
[16:00] <patdk-wk> that seems it would be half the issue, let me see if I can get that added
[16:02] <jamespage> patdk-wk, open-iscsi is a bit broken as it stands - the initator name was not getting generated on install
[16:02] <jamespage> only on first boot
[16:02] <jamespage> which never happens cause its broken on install
[16:02] <patdk-wk> ya I filed bugs on that a long time ago
[16:03] <patdk-wk> cause initiator name is important for me to know, during install
[16:03] <patdk-wk> it's a total pain to say, this client is allowed for the install, then have to go back and change it after the install to it's now new name
[16:03] <patdk-wk> let alone hunting for it both times
[16:07] <jamespage> patdk-wk, you are talking about the 'feature' where the install initiator name is different to the installed system initiator name right?
[16:07] <patdk-wk> ya
[16:07] <jamespage> patdk-wk, please point me at the bug - we should try to fix that next release
[16:08] <jamespage> balloons, the minimal install is now in the docs at 700MB - but that covers both amd64 and i386
[16:09] <jamespage> the automated testing has some headroom for whats not normally installed for a stock jeos install
[16:09] <patdk-wk> bug 924583
[16:10] <patdk-wk> :(
[16:10] <patdk-wk> totally can't remember/figure out how to use purposed during install
[16:10] <patdk-wk> and google isn't helping :(
[16:11] <balloons> software sources, enable proposed
[16:11] <balloons> ahh your on server
[16:11] <patdk-wk> hmm? attempting from the installation iso cli
[16:12] <balloons> quantal-proposed is the repo
[16:12] <patdk-wk> that much I do know :)
[16:12] <jamespage> patdk-wk, it should be on the next set of ISO's
[16:13] <balloons> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-proposed
[16:13] <patdk-wk> ya, but I can't locate an apt sources file anywhere
[16:13] <patdk-wk> so can't add it
[16:15] <balloons> would you be able to install, then boot using cd, shell into install and fix
[16:15] <balloons> then reboot/
[16:17] <balloons> patdk-wk, so is this the testcase that needs updated? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1445/revisions/375/info
[16:18] <balloons> njin, http://packages.qa.dev.stgraber.org/qatracker/testcases/1337/info it looks correct here
[16:18] <balloons> did something get missed copying it over?
[16:18] <patdk-wk> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1456/info
[16:19] <balloons> patdk-wk, ahh! got it
[16:19] <balloons> I'll update now
[16:19] <patdk-wk> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1458/info
[16:19] <patdk-wk> I think they are the same, not sure though
[16:19] <patdk-wk> actually, lots of updates needed kindof, since the new kernel methods
[16:20] <patdk-wk> but that will change now, between older and newer versions that are getting tested
[16:21] <balloons> patdk-wk, njin was working through the server testcases this cycle, but several of them weren't able to be updated properly -- we'd love your help
[16:21] <patdk-wk> oh? I can edit them somehow?
[16:22] <balloons> patdk-wk, there's actually a team of folks that help out maintaining the cases
[16:22] <balloons> some of the server testcases are simply pure migrations from the old wiki
[16:23] <patdk-wk> would have said something about that needed changing, but didn't know it was changed :)
[16:24] <balloons> here's the info on the team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseAdmins
[16:24] <patdk-wk> guess I will need to wait for new iso, I totally don't get how to install via purposed during install
[16:24] <patdk-wk> know I did it many releases ago, natty?
[16:24] <balloons> you don't have to join the team to help work on testcases though.. you can help verify and test or write a case..
[16:25] <patdk-wk> atleast I know who to file bugs to, that helps
[16:27] <balloons> see the 'report a bug against the content of this testcase'
[16:30] <patdk-wk> ah, must be new since the layout change
[16:30] <patdk-wk> ok, new openiscsi installed
[16:31] <balloons> patdk-wk, indeed.. so, yes I would love your help in shaping up the cases
[16:32] <balloons> patdk-wk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseFormat lists the format for testcases.. basically if you want to edit / revamp any cases that need it just follow the format posted. Anyone on the team can then help make it "live".. you can file a bug to have it updated
[16:33] <patdk-wk> update iscsi bug
[17:13] <silverarrow> hi
[17:14] <silverarrow> do any of you have media player in browser after the last week of updates?
[17:23] <njin> who is syncing ? o/
[17:28] <silverarrow> I am downloading latest to see of it boots live
[17:31] <silverarrow> I might do a full reinstall, maybe the sound problem I have will be easier to sort out
[17:36] <balloons> I am syncing
[17:36] <balloons> lots to sync!
[17:37] <silverarrow> as long as it doesn`t sink
[17:41] <njin> upgrading the last netbook, bye Precise
[17:43] <njin> evrytime I feel a sense of nostalgy and seems to me that i'm offending the old release, I loved them one by one
[17:44] <njin> :-*(
[17:45] <silverarrow> yeah, we de leave them behind
[17:45] <silverarrow> 12.04 will live a long time on servers at least
[17:45] <njin> but is also true that they are pieces of my great love, Ubuntu...
[17:46] <silverarrow> some desktops too
[17:47] <silverarrow> but if there ever is to be an Ubuntu in the future, it has to be renewed and updated
[17:47] <njin> ah, yes. step by step
[17:48] <silverarrow> I`m not sure how it works, but every time there is a new kernel, it is launched to fix problems, but with it comes a major mess to  clean up
[17:49] <silverarrow> there is a lot to say for a longterm release too
[17:49] <silverarrow> think of xp
[17:49] <njin> new kernel fix problem and implement newest devices
[17:50] <silverarrow> do you remember how windows 95 and 98 worked?
[17:50] <patdk-wk> they worked?
[17:50] <njin> lol
[17:50] <njin> win8 is egual
[17:50] <silverarrow> with xp and the new file system, they stayed with it, and it ran better than ever after a couple of years
[17:51] <njin> sure xp was a big step beyond respect 98
[17:51] <njin> but win 8 is stupid referred to quantal
[17:51] <njin> imho
[17:51] <silverarrow> now windows 8 is released
[17:52] <silverarrow> I was more comparing precise to xp
[17:52] <silverarrow> yeah, quantal is good, I am installing quantal on my hp as soon as I get it back
[17:53] <njin> percise has the usability of xp with the latest tecnologies inside
[17:53] <silverarrow> njin: you mean the new desktop environment is compared ?
[17:53] <silverarrow> xp lasted a long time
[17:54] <silverarrow> with 3 major SP
[17:54] <njin> xp still the best windows system
[17:55] <silverarrow> maybe, but windows 7 has been much the same here
[17:56]  * patdk-wk wants a backport of grub from quantal to precise :)
[17:56] <njin> I stop to use win starting from feisty (xp times), so I don't know about 7
[17:56] <patdk-wk> I tried to do one, but way too many adjustments :(
[17:56] <balloons> patdk-wk, you like grub 2 eh?
[17:56] <patdk-wk> balloons, well, I like luks support :)
[17:56] <silverarrow> I have to get rid of Vista on a laptop, but need windows for software which is not available for linux or osx
[17:57] <patdk-wk> silverarrow, I use ubuntu on all my machines, I will run a win7 vm though
[17:57] <patdk-wk> but I rarely ever boot that vm
[18:02] <silverarrow> there is a course on tracing family, with uses Embla, and everybody have windows
[19:46] <silverarrow> does the queuebot have hickup, or are the updates multiple today?
[19:55] <phillw> silverarrow: there are a lot of mission critical bugs being corrected that are causing multiple re-spins,
[19:55]  * patdk-wk spins round and round
[19:57] <phillw> silverarrow: you can keep track of what is planned for respin and why at http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-release .... do NOT edit that section"
[19:57] <phillw> s/"/!/
[19:57]  * patdk-wk tries 20121015.1 server iscsi
[20:00] <Noskcaj> balloons could you triage thoose two bugs you said you would( bug 1066223 and 1066225) the second has been approved by the  kubuntu team for r-series
[20:01] <balloons> Noskcaj, they haven't been?
[20:01] <balloons> I see followup on them
[20:01] <Noskcaj> not really
[20:03] <Noskcaj> 1066223 is confirmed nothing else, 1066225 just has a big comment tread
[20:04] <balloons> ScottK is from kubuntu
[20:04] <balloons> we could point the other bug he hasn't commented on out to him and xnox
[20:05] <silverarrow> I am having password problems
[20:05] <silverarrow> my usual computer is in for repair, and I am in browser with no stored passworkds
[20:06] <balloons> that sucks :-(
[20:06] <Noskcaj> balloons: ok, scottk and i had a talk on kubuntu-devel and he now agrees it should be done for r-series
[20:06] <Noskcaj> 1066225
[20:07] <silverarrow> it does, ubuntu pad is a bit tricky to have passwords retrieved
[20:07] <silverarrow> I can login to launchpad, but not ubuntu testing
[20:08] <patdk-wk> 20121015.1 doesn't include any iscsi fixs
[20:09] <phillw> patdk-wk: I don't see any queued yet that would trigger a respin.
[20:09] <patdk-wk> well, was just testing to be sure :)
[20:10] <patdk-wk> half of the fix is in proposed, or atleast, 1 fix of the two needed
[20:16] <balloons> patdk-wk, odd
[20:16] <balloons> they should have gone in
[20:16] <balloons> they were intended to
[20:16] <balloons> afaik
[20:51] <plars> anyone here with a mac and external display that could possibly confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1066883
[20:53] <phillw> wxl is not due home until later,
[20:54] <phillw> plars: ahh, it's AMD64 - not sure who tests those.
[20:55] <phillw> ahh, lars, also a ppc tester.
[20:55] <plars> phillw: amd64+mac image actually, I have one system I can test it on (macbook), but I can't reproduce the problem. psivaa is seeing it with a mac mini with an external monitor
[20:55] <phillw> plars: that what i meant :D
[21:06] <wxl> lars is here wow
[21:07] <wxl> next thing you know greg and ron will show up and we'll have a ppc party up in here
[21:08] <Noskcaj> the ibook 64 i have isn;t able to boot from cd or usb and i cant get the cd out, i still have OSX10.4 on it. any ideas?
[21:08] <Noskcaj> *g4
[21:08] <wxl> yes Noskcaj
[21:08] <wxl> force shut it down if you have to
[21:08] <wxl> then turn it on
[21:08] <wxl> and IMMEDIATELY
[21:08] <wxl> hit command-option-o-f
[21:09] <wxl> you'll get to the open firmware prompt
[21:09] <wxl> type eject cd
[21:09] <wxl> done
[21:09] <wxl> you should hold the keystroke btw
[21:11] <Noskcaj> wxl: thanks, i will try and get some tessts running on it
[21:18] <Noskcaj> wxl: also it wont boot from cd, any ideas there?
[21:18] <wxl> Noskcaj: that could be all kind of things. did you md5 the iso and the cd and did they match up with published values?
[21:19] <Noskcaj> i forgot
[21:19] <wxl> well if you have problems, that's the first thing to check
[21:19] <Noskcaj> also the cd is a bit scratched
[21:19] <wxl> and note it's important to verify not only the iso but the cd as well
[21:19] <wxl> well that may be your problem
[21:19] <wxl> the side loading drives tend to deal less well with damaged discs
[21:20] <Noskcaj> thanks i will try again later
[21:20] <wxl> np
[21:20] <phillw> Noskcaj: are you Lars?
[21:20] <wxl> feel free to msg me if you need further help tho i likely won't be on until later
[21:20] <Noskcaj> ok
[21:20] <Noskcaj> phillw: no
[21:20] <wxl> phillw: oh, shoot, i thought that was plars. now i see i'm mistaken.
[21:21] <wxl> that's what i get for listening to you XD
[21:21] <Noskcaj> as the username sugests my name is jackson
[21:21] <phillw> wxl: no worries, similar names!
[21:21] <phillw> I don't think I've ever seen lars on IRC (at least do not recall his irc nick).
[21:22] <wxl> i don't think i've seen greg or ron for that matter either
[21:23] <phillw> greg comes on, ron does not like IRC
[21:23] <wxl> is greg nm_geo?
[21:23] <phillw> yes
[21:23] <wxl> i've never seen him. he must be the opposite time zone from me
[21:25] <phillw> possibly. I loose track of TZ's :)
[21:36] <silverarrow> there were a guy here yesterday who had managed to put the b43 drivers on a usb, and made it "persistent"
[22:08] <balloons> upgrade on real machines all worked :-)
[22:08] <balloons> things all looking good today from me
[22:08] <balloons> other than known issues
[22:16] <Patrickdk> oh, it's a .2 now :)
[22:19] <phillw> balloons: yeah, like the route to get ppc to work being a dead end because alternate & server no longer work :/ But, yeah, they seem to be squishing bugs really quickly. Fantastic work by the release team (and up stream) to react so quickly to the bugs found by the testers.
[22:20] <balloons> it can be a wild ride
[22:21] <phillw> balloons: and those of us who've been on it for a while, wouldn't miss it for the world :)
[22:27] <balloons> dinner breK


[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libofx [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [1:0.9.11-2] (no packageset)
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[14:34] <tsimonq2> Could an archive admin please review cg3?
[14:35] <tsimonq2> There are just NEW packages because this upload transitions back to not using "v5" at the end from the GCC 5 ABI transition.
[14:35] <tsimonq2> (It's in Artful NEW)
[14:36] <tsimonq2> Same situation with openmama.
[17:08] <flexiondotorg> jbicha Any chance your online?
[17:09] <flexiondotorg> *you're
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[17:38] <jbicha> flexiondotorg: hi
[18:27] <flexiondotorg> jibel Sorry I was afk.
[18:28] <flexiondotorg> Can you upload new packages to the archive?
[18:28] <flexiondotorg> I meant jbicha. Sorry for the thing ji_bel
[18:30] <jbicha> flexiondotorg: yes, but if you're asking about vala-panel, it looks like mapreri is already reviewing that
[18:57] <flexiondotorg> jbicha Well it is about vala-panel, but vala-panel-appmenu
[18:57] <flexiondotorg> Which depends on vala-panel.
[18:57] <flexiondotorg> We missed Alpha 1 and I really need to get these packages uploaded so we can get testing feedback.
[18:57] <flexiondotorg> If you're able to assist I'd appreciate it.
[19:00] <jbicha> do they make sense for upload to Debian?
[19:01] <jbicha> the Debian new queue isn't moving fast right now, but you could upload to both Debian and Ubuntu and see which one's faster :|
[19:10] <flexiondotorg> jbicha Not suitable for Debian because they depend on libraries unavailable in Debian.
[19:11] <jbicha> ooh, it's probably nice to mention that on the LP bug so Archive Admins can see that
[19:14] <flexiondotorg> jbicha OK
[20:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libofx [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1:0.9.11-2]
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[23:01] <xnox> infinity, slangasek: could you please remove from the archive and/or demote these to proposed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cduce/+bug/1704653
[23:01] <xnox> then when everything is published and llvm is published, it should pretty much migrate.
[23:02] <xnox> unless someone can explain to me why ben thinks that the llvm-3.8 is not installable on ppc64el/s390x smells like false positive, just like for mingw
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[00:47] <mup> PR snapd#10936 closed: interfaces/interfaces/scsi_generic: add interface for scsi generic de… <Squash-merge> <cherry-picked> <Created by kubiko> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10936>
[01:18] <mup> PR snapd#11111 closed: packaging/ubuntu, packaging/debian: depend on dbus-session-bus provider <Squash-merge> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11111>
[04:33] <mup> PR snapd#11083 closed: gadget: allow EnsureLayoutCompatibility to ensure disk has all laid out structs <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11083>
[05:44] <mup> PR snapd#11129 opened: cmd/snapd-apparmor: Reimplement snapd-apparmor in Go <Created by alexmurray> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11129>
[06:49] <mborzecki> morning
[07:40] <mardy> 'morning!
[08:03] <pstolowski> morning
[08:05] <mardy> pstolowski, mvo: hi
[08:11] <mvo> good morning pstolowski and mardy !
[08:34] <mup> PR snapd#11130 opened: tests/main/security-device-cgroups-helper: collect some debug info when the test fails <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11130>
[08:35] <mborzecki> hey
[09:54] <miguelpires> mvo hi, can you merge https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11109 please?
[09:54] <mup> PR #11109: o/snapstate: add InstallPathMany <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11109>
[09:57] <mvo> miguelpires: \o/ abolutely
[09:58] <mvo> I need a second (or third) review for 11123, it's criticial to fix the hostname set regression we got
[10:00] <mup> PR snapd#11109 closed: o/snapstate: add InstallPathMany <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11109>
[10:23] <mborzecki> hehe, so my hack of snapd state and units gets stuck on `error: copying asserts: circular assertions are not expected: account (testrootorg)` when initializing a fake refresh
[10:25] <mborzecki> hm if i understand that right, the developer1 account is signed by testrootorg, which is self signed (as it's root?)
[10:25] <mup> PR snapd#11091 closed: systemd: add support for systemd unit alias names <Needs Samuele review> <Created by flotter> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11091>
[10:32] <mborzecki> hmmm so fakestore is built without test keys, that's why it's confused
[11:17] <pstolowski> need 2nd review for https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10969
[11:17] <mup> PR #10969: o/snapstate, assertsate: validation sets/undo on partial failure <Complex> <Needs Samuele review> <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10969>
[11:25] <pstolowski> jamesh: hi, can you take another look at https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11072 ? i believe the test issue was the only blocker
[11:25] <mup> PR #11072: usersession/client: provide a way for client to send messages to a subset of users <refresh app awareness> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11072>
[11:34] <mborzecki> trivial PR ->> https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11130
[11:34] <mup> PR #11130: tests/main/security-device-cgroups-helper: collect some debug info when the test fails <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11130>
[11:34] <mborzecki> pstolowski: can you take a look at https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11126 ?
[11:34] <mup> PR #11126: tests: verify that simultaneous refresh of kernel and base triggers a single reboot only <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11126>
[11:34] <pstolowski> mborzecki: sure
[11:35] <mborzecki> thanks!
[12:53] <mup> PR snapcraft#3603 opened: [spike] many: fix legacy execution in managed environment <Created by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3603>
[13:31] <mup> PR snapd#11131 opened: tests/nested/manual/core20-remodel: wait for device to have a serial before starting a remodel <Simple 😃> <Run nested> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11131>
[13:46] <mup> PR snapd#10989 closed: many: quote constructed paths ending up into AppArmor rules <⛔ Blocked> <Created by mardy> <Closed by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10989>
[13:51] <mup> PR snapd#11132 opened: tests/core/kernel-and-base-single-reboot: port the test to UC20 <⛔ Blocked> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11132>
[15:11] <mup> PR snapd#11133 opened: o/c/c/hostname: be more robust against future code changes <Created by mardy> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11133>
[15:16] <mup> PR snapd#11124 closed: HACKING.md: adjust again for building the snapd snap <Simple 😃> <Documentation> <Skip spread> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11124>
[15:36] <mup> PR snapd#11107 closed: overlord, tests: add managers and a spread test for UC20 to UC22 remodel <Run nested> <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11107>
[16:01] <mup> PR snapd#11134 opened: daemon: add multiple snap sideload to API <Created by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11134>
[16:34] <mup> PR core20#124 opened: Add a finalrd script to move filesystems <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/core20/pull/124>
[18:07] <mup> PR snapd#11135 opened: daemon,tests: support forgetting device serial via API <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11135>
[18:07] <mup> PR snapd#11136 opened: devicestate: Unregister deletes the device key pair as well <Squash-merge> <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11136>
[20:38] <mup> PR snapd#11125 closed: o/devicestate: introduce DeviceManager.Unregister (2.53) <Created by mvo5> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11125>
[21:02] <jawn-smith> ijohnson[m]: Any chance I could get a bump on the workflow approval for PR 11052 ?
[21:02] <mup> PR #11052: tests: ensure snapd can be downloaded as a module <Created by atesburak> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11052>
[21:04] <jawn-smith> We're eager to release ubuntu-image 2.1 but are blocked by that.
[21:15] <ijohnson[m]> sure bumped
[21:33] <jawn-smith> thanks!
[22:13] <mup> PR snapd#11137 opened: snapdtool, many: support additional key/value flags in info file <Simple 😃> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11137>


[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[19:39] <valorie> https://status.canonical.com/#/incident/KNms6QK9ewuzz-7xUsPsNylV20jEt5kyKsd8A-3ptQG-R6bil1_KnGrNhlmDfGeBqxPulG7NPS3y2X0ZcEptVQ==
[19:53] <arraybolt3> How do you get the attention of everyone in Ubuntu? Shut down the PPA service for an hour.
[19:56] <valorie> heh
[19:59] <arraybolt3> TIL it's basically impossible to type a > symbol if using a US keyboard with the layout set to German.
[19:59] <arraybolt3> (testing some localization-related things around disk encryption)
[19:59] <arraybolt3> and the > and < keys are on a key that physically doesn't exist for me