[03:18] <penguinbrat> davidpelaez: or if there is, it doesnt tell you, or give you the option of changing it
[03:19] <jamest> davidpelaez , you can make one
[03:19] <e0f> saniX, can i pm you?
[03:19] <penguinbrat> jamest: lol
[03:19] <asonjay99> durt: ok
[03:19] <jamest> penguinbrat , sure you can
[03:19] <dooglus> crimsun: you did?  I thought you were telling me other ways to package it
[03:19] <jamest> lol
[03:19] <briguyd> anyone know what to type when I'm at http://localhost:631/printers and its asking for a login?
[03:19] <jamest> sudo root passwd
[03:19] <Dk_user> i not complete
[03:19] <jamest> then you can su
[03:19] <farruinn> penguinbrat: there is no root password at all by default
[03:19] <crimsun> dooglus: dude, every single time I mention debian/rules is a clue
[03:19] <Nei> tonyyarusso, I just added also a LANGUAGE=de_DE:de line but no avail (I did log out and in again)
[03:19] <davidpelaez> how can i create one?
[03:19] <penguinbrat> jamest: oh - well see there, complete newbie to ubuntu =P
[03:19] <dooglus> crimsun: that's a makefile.  what do you want me to do with it?
[03:19] <Dk_user> Su super user
[03:19] <jamest> davidpelaez , i just wrote it... just do >>>> sudo passwd root
[03:19] <crimsun> dooglus: you execute it.
[03:20] <jamest> enter your passwd
[03:20] <jamest> then enter the new root
[03:20] <penguinbrat> farruinn: aparently there is, jamest just said there was, but I have no idea how to get to it and havent really to, just been using sudo for evberything...
[03:20] <dooglus> crimsun: which target should I build?  and what variables should I set?
[03:20] <ecobuntu> anyone running dapper?
[03:20] <asonjay99> can some one help me network my linux and windows machine
[03:20] <nybble> anyone have an i810 video chipset?
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> Nei: So you have both that I posted, and no results?
[03:20] <briguyd> anyone know what to type when I'm at http://localhost:631/printers and its asking for a login?
[03:20] <jamest> penguinbrat , its cool...so am i...its just old school style...sudo is brand new
[03:20] <Nei> tonyyarusso, yea :/
[03:20] <crimsun> dooglus: obviously if you compile your own kernel, you have to be aware of the differences in patches that have already been applied (or not)
[03:20] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:20] <FlannelKing> dapper?  dapper isn't much more than a thought at the moment
[03:20] <jamest> well ont brand new
[03:20] <ecobuntu> nybble:  what kind of computer?
[03:20] <jamest> FlannelKing , i'm using it now
[03:20] <crimsun> dooglus: you don't have to set any
[03:20] <ecobuntu> no dapper repositories are open
[03:20] <briguyd> it says i type in my root info... but there isn't really any
[03:20] <farruinn> penguinbrat: no, there isn't. There is a root users, yes, and you can set the root password with the command jamest gave you, but there is no root password preconfigured. That would be a major security risk
[03:20] <ecobuntu> it's unstable
[03:20] <chuck87> penguinbrat: do you already check it? :$
[03:20] <nybble> compaq presario sr11 something
[03:20] <davidpelaez> but there is no password, i try typing nothing and i says me that there a password problema
[03:20] <dooglus> crimsun: let's say I'm compiling the ubuntu sources as they stand
[03:20] <penguinbrat> jamest: yep, I dont think Ive ever used sudo before, cept for setting it up for other users.. heh
[03:20] <thoreauputic> jamest: sudo has been around for about 25 years ;)
[03:21] <nickrud> briguyd, you need to do sudo adduser cupsys shadow, and restart cupsys. you also need a root password
[03:21] <Dk_user> ecobuntu nybble:  what kind of computer?<------- a dual core
[03:21] <jamest> yep
[03:21] <jamest> davidpelaez , thats all you have to do...i do not undestand the problem
[03:21] <watnou> yawns
[03:21] <nybble> Dk_user: weirdo
[03:21] <penguinbrat> chuck87: sry, check the sound card?
[03:21] <briguyd> nickrud, umm, i have no idea what that means
[03:21] <slew> so if a program says that it cant gtk does that mean its not installed?
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Okay...  I have the exact same thing and it works fine.  So first, let's double-check the lines, in case I miscopied or something.
[03:21] <nickrud> briguyd, a sec, I'll find the link
[03:21] <briguyd> ok
[03:21] <farruinn> davidpelaez: when you run sudo passwd root the first password you enter is your own password
[03:21] <briguyd> thanks
[03:22] <chuck87> penguinbrat: i don't understand! jaja, what in need to do?
[03:22] <asonjay99> does anyone know how to netowrk a windows and linux machine
[03:22] <nybble> anyways, can anyone help me get my video resolution up?
[03:22] <farruinn> davidpelaez: then is says something like "Enter UNIX root password" where you enter the root password you want
[03:22] <crimsun> dooglus: what aren't you clear about?
[03:22] <Nei> tonyyarusso, ~/.profile right
[03:22] <ecobuntu> !troll
[03:22] <ubotu> ecobuntu: Are you smoking crack?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Nei: LANGUAGE="de_DE:de"
[03:22] <davidpelaez> it did not do that!
[03:22] <Dk_user> Yes
[03:22] <thoreauputic> !tell nybble about resolution
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Nei: LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"
[03:22] <nybble> arleady looked at that
[03:22] <crimsun> dooglus: the Ubuntu way requires a specific tarball location
[03:22] <dooglus> crimsun: I'm not clear how to build a kernel package that has the same contents as the ubuntu kernel package
[03:22] <bur[n] er> blast... why does openGL suck so bad in breezy :\  (i'm just venting)
[03:22] <Nei> tonyyarusso, I'll replace it with de_DE
[03:23] <davidpelaez> it asks me for the pass, any idea of how to solve that. Couldn't it just setup a default password or something??
[03:23] <nybble> thoreauputic: already looked at that
[03:23] <farruinn> davidpelaez: it will say "password:" - this is _sudo_ asking for your _non_root_user_ password
[03:23] <tonyyarusso> Nei: What did you have?
[03:23] <penguinbrat> chuck87: ive' nvr used skype before, but the easiest way since it seems to be using the oss method, is to diable any apps that are using the sound system, that should free it up... apps like esd or arts - the sound deamons for gnome and kde respectively...
[03:23] <ecobuntu> so the splash screen that appears when i load ubuntu...now says xubuntu after i installed the 686 kernel
[03:23] <davidpelaez> this is not my first time with linux, i know it did not ask me for it. I typed "su" in my terminal and i asked me for the pass
[03:23] <ecobuntu> wierd....
[03:23] <dooglus> crimsun: which specific tarball?
[03:23] <Nei> tonyyarusso, I have nearly exact those lines
[03:23] <nickrud> briguyd, the web interface for cups is disabled in ubuntu; to enable it you need to do the commands ubotu told you about
[03:23] <davidpelaez> hey,
[03:23] <Nei> LANGUAGE="de_DE:de"
[03:23] <Nei> LANG="de_DE.UTF-8"
[03:23] <bur[n] er> ecobuntu: sure you didn't install xubuntu-desktop ?
[03:23] <jamest> davidpelaez , what exactly appens when you do sudo passwd root
[03:23] <davidpelaez> it worked now
[03:23] <ecobuntu> not the GDM screen or the splash screen when i load in to GNOME
[03:23] <davidpelaez> thanks!!!
[03:23] <crimsun> dooglus: ...the kernel source tarball
[03:23] <farruinn> davidpelaez: have you set a root password? You don't use su until you do
[03:23] <jamest> LOL
[03:23] <jamest> hahaah
[03:23] <ecobuntu> yup!
[03:23] <briguyd> nickrud, ok, did that, now what do i type as the login?
[03:24] <ecobuntu> no xubuntu on here
[03:24] <asonjay99> can anyone help me newtork my windows and linux computers
[03:24] <bur[n] er> ecobuntu: that's hte usplash screen
[03:24] <ecobuntu> ok
[03:24] <davidpelaez> first it gave an error, then i tried again with my passw and it asked for the new one, thanks
[03:24] <dooglus> crimsun: ok, I've got that.  what needs doing with the location of the tarball?
[03:24] <crimsun> dooglus: please, please read debian/rules.
[03:24] <jamest> davidpelaez , no worries :) glad it worked
[03:24] <ecobuntu> so my usplash screen says ubuntu with the 386 kernel and xubuntu with the 686 kernel
[03:24] <Dk_user> O.o
[03:24] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:24] <davidpelaez> cya, thank u
[03:24] <dooglus> crimsun: it's 2766 lines of opaque makefile
[03:24] <JabbaHut> I've been using SuSE & Fedora... but I am looking at Ubuntu. It look good so far... Seems to be quite popular.
[03:25] <crimsun> dooglus: start reading
[03:25] <ecobuntu> rpm...inferior to deb
[03:25] <briguyd> ha, nevermind
[03:25] <briguyd> nickrud: thanks
[03:25] <slew> where is the pkg-config search path?
[03:25] <nickrud> briguyd, I checked, and I found what you did. no root needed :)
[03:25] <Nei> tonyyarusso, there must be some other trick to this. I think this file is only for your bash shell
[03:25] <jamest> penguinbrat , its fun though to give back like this...i love doing this
[03:26] <penguinbrat> jamest: i agree, but I will say that I have nvr been on any chat room as busy as this for any of the distro's...
[03:26] <jamest> ME NEITHER!
[03:26] <penguinbrat> jamest: n=P
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Okay, maybe give it one more full logout shot, and if that doesn't work, I wasn't entirely sure about which file did it, so try copying ~/.profile to ~/.login and ~/.gnomerc  (.gnomerc is probably it - we got success on this before only after some experimentation)
[03:26] <nickrud> o-0
[03:26] <dabaR> !+enter
[03:26] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:26] <ecobuntu> penguinbrat:  do to #debian
[03:26] <ecobuntu> i bet there are more people
[03:26] <tritium> bravo, dabaR :)
[03:27] <ecobuntu> yup 730 in debian
[03:27] <ecobuntu> 566 in ubunt
[03:27] <ecobuntu> u
[03:27] <treitter> has anyone built X.org from source recently?
[03:27] <dabaR> crimsun: do I have general permission to change factoids? if they are still good imo...
[03:27] <nalioth> nickrud: you old miscreant
[03:27] <slew> where is the pkg-config search path?
[03:27] <nickrud> hi nalioth
[03:27] <darkarchon> how many in gentoo o?
[03:27] <Nei> tonyyarusso, still english
[03:27] <crimsun> dabaR: I don't see why anyone wouldn't
[03:27] <penguinbrat> ecobuntu: ubuntu is my first exposure to debian, the last time I tried debian was a few years ago and it seemed it was way out of date, prolly something I was doing though =P
[03:27] <FlannelKing> just like it says, two.
[03:27] <nickrud> slew, that means you need a -dev package or two
[03:27] <ecobuntu> well debian is kind of slow unless you run sid
[03:27] <dabaR> crimsun: I mean, some of the bob2 ones:)) like the enter...
[03:28] <darkarchon> ecobuntu, not really
[03:28] <pie> penguinbrat: The disk is there, but as a user I can not get any acces to it, the cown command does not have rights, (with or without sudo) Help!
[03:28] <ecobuntu> slow = out of date
[03:28] <ecobuntu> sarge is out of date
[03:28] <darkarchon> yeah it is
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> Nei: If none of those three do it for you, then I'm out of ideas, because that's what I used, so at this point I'm quite confused.
[03:28] <durt> ubuntu is slow
[03:28] <ecobuntu> etch is out of date
[03:28] <darkarchon> but, who the heck uses sarge
[03:28] <bob2> dabaR: anyone can change them
[03:28] <darkarchon> or etch
[03:28] <ecobuntu> sid is where ubuntu is
[03:28] <krystoff> hi there please i can't install any extensions with Firefox
[03:28] <bob2> dabaR: which is fine, just don't make them worse
[03:28] <dabaR> bob2: oh youre here:P that was a joke.
[03:28] <Nei> tonyyarusso, do you mean to copy the same lines in a file ~/.gnomerc ?
[03:28] <pie> penguinbrat: It and up all the time: unvalid user..
[03:28] <slew> nickrud, so if i need to compile a program that needs gtk and gnet i need to sudo apt-get install gtk-dev?
[03:29] <ecobuntu> i use to use sid but it's just as easy to use ubuntu
[03:29] <farruinn> pie: what exactly are you trying to access?
[03:29] <krystoff> in #firefox they told me to uninstall and reinstall ... right ?
[03:29] <Nei> I haven't tried that, will do that now
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Exactly.
[03:29] <bob2> no, ubuntu stable is more out of date, generally, than sid
[03:29] <bur[n] er> krystoff: no
[03:29] <jamest> penguinbrat , yea you were probably running sarge...they release like once every 3 years
[03:29] <darkarchon> ecobuntu, i dislike the point+klick style of ubuntu
[03:29] <ecobuntu> bob2: sid doesn't have gnome 2.12 yet though
[03:29] <penguinbrat> pie: sudo should have the rights regardless cuz it's root...  ahh, the username part is going to be the username you use to log in as...
[03:29] <krystoff> i'm listening to you bur[n] er
[03:29] <nalioth> slew: you need to "sudo apt-get build-dep pkgname" where pkgname is what you want to compile
[03:29] <darkarchon> nvm, i dont use ubuntu/debian/whatver
[03:29] <ecobuntu> bob2: though they do have the new kernel
[03:29] <nickrud> slew, pretty much.
[03:29] <bur[n] er> krystoff: you get errors or anything on installing?
[03:29] <bob2> ecobuntu: experimental does.  sid has 2.6.14 and firerfox rc1, for instance
[03:29] <krystoff> package eroor
[03:30] <krystoff> error
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Once I hit upon something that worked I didn't bother experimenting with deleting stuff, so I only know that one of those three files did the trick; I'm not sure which.
[03:30] <darkarchon> * gnome-base/gnome
[03:30] <darkarchon>      Available versions:  !1.4-r3 2.8.2 2.8.3-r1 2.10-r1 2.10.1 2.10.2 2.12.0 2.12.1
[03:30] <krystoff> after ff download it
[03:30] <darkarchon> nvm
[03:30] <penguinbrat> jamest: that sounds kind of familiar, it was still on the 2.2 kernel or something really old, and it was all text based so it didnt last long =/
[03:30] <jamest> yea yea
[03:30] <bur[n] er> krystoff: default breezy version of firefox?
[03:30] <jamest> how do you like ubuntu?
[03:30] <pie> penguinbrat: somehow not..
[03:30] <krystoff> yes bur[n] er the dfault one
[03:30] <ecobuntu> so are you guys running sid or ubuntu then?
[03:30] <jamest> i think ubuntu is refreshingly easy
[03:30] <jamest> i'm 17 now
[03:30] <jamest> i started linux at 10
[03:30] <darkarchon> ecobuntu, gentoo unstable ._.
[03:30] <jamest> ??
[03:30] <jamest> darkarchon
[03:30] <ecobuntu> darkarchon:  lol...why are you here?
[03:31] <penguinbrat> pie: the invalid user part is what im talking about for the username...
[03:31] <bur[n] er> krystoff: tried as a different user?
[03:31] <darkarchon> because my gf is using ubuntu
[03:31] <darkarchon> :>
[03:31] <krystoff> not yet
[03:31] <Nei> tonyyarusso, meh can't get it to work
[03:31] <slew> nickrud, so if im trying to build a program, i sudo build-dep gtermix [the program im trying to build]  or build-dep gtk?
[03:31] <krystoff> but delete my profile
[03:31] <bur[n] er> darkarchon: good work ;)  my gf uses windows xp ;)
[03:31] <krystoff> the same no ?
[03:31] <sn0n> hey guys.. isnt there a page on supported laptops on ubuntu ?
[03:31] <jaramillo> what does a black background and brown letters mean in a 'ls' cmd output at gnome-terminal
[03:31] <jamest> sn0n , probably on ubuntu.org
[03:31] <nickrud> slew, nalioth gave much better details than I did :)
[03:31] <bur[n] er> krystoff: try it... might be an issue with your users profile
[03:31] <darkarchon> bur[n] er, she was pissed of windows
[03:31] <dabaR> shitty files":D
[03:31] <durt> i wish i had a gf ;)
[03:31] <jamest> its more what in the laptop :-D
[03:31] <krystoff> ok bur[n] er
[03:31] <krystoff> gonna try this
[03:31] <darkarchon> the first real os with multitasking
[03:31] <liable> sn0n: try tuxmobil
[03:31] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> can I somehow remove a meta package and everything that depends on it?
[03:31] <bur[n] er> lol@ durt
[03:31] <sn0n> ok
[03:31] <darkarchon> it can boot and crash simultanously
[03:32] <penguinbrat> jaramillo: I think the list is in /etc/DIRCOLORS, but what is coming to mind is a fifo...
[03:32] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:32] <esc_ape> does anyone know how I can compress to .zip? I have some files I need to send to a windows friend...and they dont know how to open .rar etc...
[03:32] <bur[n] er> spacko: wtf?
[03:32] <slew> nickrud, ahh sorry, saw two n's at the same time. thanks though =]
[03:32] <darkarchon> esc_ape, urgs
[03:32] <darkarchon> man zip
[03:32] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:32] <luchoargentino> hola hay alguien que escriba en espaol
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> Nei: Sorry, but I'm out of options.  It may need a reboot or something.
[03:32] <spacko> wooops
[03:32] <spacko> ffs
[03:32] <jaramillo> penguinbrat: no /etc/DIR* here
[03:32] <esc_ape> darkarchon: man zip?
[03:32] <jamest> esc_ape , ZIP!
[03:33] <bob2> esc_ape: zip...
[03:33] <darkarchon> man = manual
[03:33] <darkarchon> zip = zip
[03:33] <jaramillo> in fact, im just using 'ls' not --colors
[03:33] <darkarchon> :P
[03:33] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to remove ubuntu-standard and everything that depends on it
[03:33] <darkarchon> man zip
[03:33] <esc_ape> oh duh
[03:33] <esc_ape> k
[03:33] <pie> penguinbrat: I'm sorry, I need another bottle of wine.., the second one did not tribbute so far..
[03:33] <luchoargentino> hola parece que no hay espaoles
[03:33] <Nei> tonyyarusso, yeh thanks very much for trying to help
[03:33] <jamest> jaramillo , check .bashrc
[03:33] <jamest> nei, whatsup?
[03:33] <darkarchon> urgs
[03:33] <dooglus> !es
[03:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:33] <darkarchon> < goin out for a smoke && to bed afterwards
[03:33] <darkarchon> its too late anyway.
[03:33] <darkarchon> 03:33am
[03:33] <darkarchon> x_X
[03:34] <jaramillo> k
[03:34] <jaramillo> yup
[03:34] <jaramillo> there it is
[03:34] <slew> nalioth, that apt-get build-dep gtk dosent seem to work :(
[03:34] <luchoargentino> y aca hay quien hable espaol
[03:34] <penguinbrat> esc_ape: zip newzipfile.zip [file list]
[03:34] <jamest> slew, what are you tryign to do
[03:34] <nut543> What's the most relaxing and possible-to-work-with terminal font?
[03:34] <DaSkreech> penguinbrat: Still awake man? :-)
[03:34] <jamest> slew, gnome comes with gtk 2.0
[03:34] <jamest> hahaha
[03:34] <luchoargentino> sorreyyy o sorete como es
[03:34] <Nei> jamest, I want my gnome to be in my native language
[03:34] <darkarchon> whats the actual ubuntu kernel?
[03:35] <jamest> darkarchon , run uname -a
[03:35] <dabaR> darkarchon: umode
[03:35] <penguinbrat> jaramillo: i guess ubuntu is just using the default colors or something, DIRCOLORS is a config file for it... try man'ing ls see if it gives you the color coding...
[03:35] <dabaR> haha
[03:35] <jamest> yep
[03:35] <jamest> the do
[03:35] <darkarchon> i still do not run ubuntu
[03:35] <slew> jamest, im trying to build a program called gtermix, it is used to connect to old-school ansi type bbs programs over telnet. ./configure tells me it cant find gtk, or gnet.
[03:35] <darkarchon> thats the point
[03:35] <luchoargentino> aba aba du
[03:35] <bob2> darkarchon: please try to stay on-topc
[03:35] <phase-vii> I'm trying to run ubuntu...
[03:35] <jaramillo> k, thx dude
[03:35] <bob2> darkarchon: breezy uses 2.6.12.
[03:35] <n0odl3> i heard people that use free bsd look down on linux users?
[03:35] <luchoargentino> duque duque tton ton
[03:35] <darkarchon> thats what i wanted to know
[03:35] <darkarchon> thnx bob2
[03:35] <penguinbrat> DaSkreech: yeah, just trying to get pie running so I can get something to eat =P lol
[03:35] <phase-vii> having problems mounting the CD-ROM
[03:35] <luchoargentino> bob y bob2
[03:36] <bob2> n0odl3: no
[03:36] <penguinbrat> pie: err, thats cheating - LOL
[03:36] <DaSkreech> penguinbrat: Alt+F2 -> pie
[03:36] <sn0n> i guess if the laptop dont like linux.. i can always use win2k
[03:36] <sn0n> ;-)
[03:36] <slew> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[03:36] <DaSkreech> penguinbrat: Where could I find out how to remove a package and everything that depends on it
[03:37] <nickrud> slew, start with libgkt2.0-dev, and libgnet-dev
[03:37] <dooglus> DaSkreech: debfoster can do that for you
[03:37] <ticklemonster> cant he do it from synaptic?
[03:37] <nut543>  What's the most relaxing and possible-to-work-with terminal font?
[03:37] <n0odl3> bob2: do you use freebsd?
[03:37] <dooglus> ticklemonster: I don't think so
[03:37] <penguinbrat> DaSkreech: i hope that isnt what he is doing... I would just use one of the package managers, although I dont know about removing all the dependencies..
[03:37] <jamest> slew, apt-cache search gtk |less
[03:37] <ticklemonster> thanks
[03:37] <bob2> n0odl3: no
[03:37] <phase-vii> Who can tell me what I'm doing wrong with my Live CD, b/c it won't run on my box.
[03:37] <ticklemonster> i wondered that myself
[03:37] <nalioth> slew: you'll need to do some research, and use actual pkg names
[03:37] <bob2> n0odl3: it's the same as linux users looking down on freebsd users
[03:38] <bob2> n0odl3: only the stupid teenagers do it, and they can be safely ignored
[03:38] <Earthen> anyone know of a how to for setting up pppo over ethernet for dsl connection
[03:38] <slew> nalioth, jamest, thanks
[03:38] <bob2> n0odl3: I'm sure many freebsd users are annoyed at the influx of clueless users to unix in general
[03:38] <budluva> can someone give me a hand here? i have a tnt2 and i ran the nvidia 7174 installer (*.run) and it compiled fine, after installation, remove Load "dri" and Load "GLcore" and add Load "glx" also replaced "nv" with "nvidia" saved, startx, x failed because could not load nvidia kernel module, screen found, but non have usable configuration
[03:38] <darkarchon> Earthen, pppoeconf maybe
[03:38] <bob2> nut543: terminus is quite pretty
[03:38] <budluva> any suggestions?
[03:38] <jamest> slew, so you got it?
[03:38] <n0odl3> bob2: i see... I dont know i was using a linux terminal in my school then some berkely kid came up to me and said
[03:39] <ticklemonster> budlova, I had probs with nvidia, until I realized that once you install nb you have to enable it
[03:39] <Antioch> When I echo my display system variable I get :0.0   what does that mean?
[03:39] <pie> penguinbrat: I will quit for to day. tomorrow Is way to close.., thanks!!!!!
[03:39] <n0odl3> bob2: "Damn linux user... wanna be hacker..." then gave me a really mean look
[03:39] <HrdwrBoB> hahahaha
[03:39] <HrdwrBoB> wannabe hacker
[03:39] <ticklemonster> lol
[03:39] <penguinbrat> budluva: run the dmesg command, there should be some lines at the bottom complaining about something when you tried to run X - when the nvidia module was attempted to be laoded
[03:39] <n0odl3> i dunno
[03:39] <slew> jamest, ha, i wish. it tells me no source package for libgtk2.0-dev
[03:39] <n0odl3> i dont even use linux to hack
[03:39] <dabaR> n0odl3: O_O
[03:39] <farruinn> n0odl3: you're going to assume all bsd users are like that person?
[03:39] <n0odl3> no
[03:40] <n0odl3> no i didnt mean that
[03:40] <penguinbrat> pie: lol - okay, I'll catch you later and good luck =)
[03:40] <budluva> ticklemonster nb?
[03:40] <pie> penguinbrat: Have a good suppur and get druk!. let's meet one day in thee Pub!
[03:40] <jamest> slew, you don't have to build from source
[03:40] <penguinbrat> pie: sounds like a plan! =D
[03:40] <slew> jamest i dont?
[03:40] <ticklemonster> less than a month
[03:40] <DaSkreech> dooglus: tell me more
[03:40] <pie> penguinbrat: it is...
[03:40] <n0odl3> dabaR: what with the emoticon
[03:40] <JabbaHut> Silly question- does Linux vs FreeBSD follow political lines (Rep vs Dem)?
[03:41] <ticklemonster> only in europe
[03:41] <esc_ape> no
[03:41] <Earthen> darksatanic:  where do i find that
[03:41] <nalioth> JabbaHut: take your silly question to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:41] <slew> jamest, it comes in an rpm flavor but debian hates rpms.
[03:41] <n0odl3> wait which party is which?
[03:41] <bob2> n0odl3: so ignore them, duh
[03:41] <DaSkreech> nalioth: oh aptitude doesn't seem to work with Meta packages
[03:41] <bob2> JabbaHut: no
[03:41] <nalioth> n0odl3: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:41] <farruinn> slew: what are you trying to install?
[03:41] <darksatanic> Earthen: Wha?
[03:41] <n0odl3> nalioth: ok... sorry about the off topic comments
[03:41] <pie> penguinbrat: same time tomorrow and we will talk about it, see you!
[03:41] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:41] <phase-vii> Can someone help me load Ubuntu on my system from the Live CD?
[03:41] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:41] <dabaR> bob2: pah
[03:42] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about EVMS? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?
[03:42] <tritium> spacko, please stop advertising
[03:42] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:42] <jamest> slew, hell no grap a package not source
[03:42] <farruinn> spacko: install from the livecd? not possible yet unless you have the dvd
[03:42] <dabaR> tritium: spambot
[03:42] <spacko> ?
[03:42] <spacko> :|
[03:42] <bob2> phase-vii: download the install cd
[03:42] <spacko> http://spacko.sky.prohosting.com/
[03:42] <phase-vii> not install just run it
[03:42] <dabaR> spacko: why are you getting yourself banned from every chan?
[03:42] <e0f> cio
[03:42] <DaSkreech> dooglus: What does it do?
[03:42] <penguinbrat> pie: tomorow night I have class at this time so I may get on earlier and leave earlier =P
[03:42] <slew> farruinn, jamest, http://freshmeat.net/projects/gtermix/
[03:42] <phase-vii> it's hanging up trying to find the CD-ROM
[03:43] <penguinbrat> pie: but in any event - cool deal, will see you then ;-)
[03:43] <DaSkreech> Night penguinbrat
[03:43] <dabaR> obviously the guy is not a bot:))
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: I got most of my issues fixed, except for a "(configure-thinkpad:13624): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> " now when I try to run configure-thinkpad.  Any idea why?
[03:43] <penguinbrat> DaSkreech: night
[03:43] <Antioch> Is there a way to specify the color depth of incoming x applications to be displayed in on the local x server??
[03:43] <cge> dabaR: I have no idea - he did the same thing in #haskell.
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> Or would anyone else know what would cause a Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: error?
[03:44] <Earthen> darksatanic: sorry I wanted to say if you knew of a webpage that gave a good how too step by step because the Man page didn't get it working for me
[03:44] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: are you trying to run somethingt as root?
[03:44] <darksatanic> Earthen: Why are you asking me specifically?
[03:45] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: ya, actually, you tell me what caused it
[03:45] <darksatanic> I haven't said anything in this channel for at least 12 hours.
[03:45] <phase-vii> bob2: not trying to install, just trying to run it from the CD
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: Yeah, it was as root.
[03:45] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: "{
[03:45] <dabaR> *
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: configure-thinkpad
[03:45] <slew> darksatanic, what made you speak up now?
[03:46] <slew> =]
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: what does that mean?
[03:46] <darksatanic> slew: Earthen invoking my name...
[03:46] <jamest> darksatanic , i'm sure your mind was numbed
[03:46] <Earthen> darksatanic: sorry I was trying to type to darkacron
[03:46] <slew> hehehe
[03:46] <darksatanic> Earthen: Ah, OK. Mis-hit nick. :)
[03:46] <jamest> darksatanic , ahh involking i love it
[03:46] <Earthen> darksatanic: yeah sorry about that
[03:46] <slew> they keep pulling you back in
[03:47] <slew> hehe
[03:47] <DaSkreech> !debfoster
[03:47] <ubotu> debfoster is, like, A command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2440
[03:47] <phase-vii> Okay so does anyone know of a problem finding the CD ROM using the Live CD?
[03:47] <phase-vii> and/or how to fix it?
[03:47] <jamest> phase-vii , bios
[03:47] <slew> jamest, the program im trying to install doesnt come in a debian pkg. =[
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: Running it as a normal user opens a little windows saying "Neither /dev/thinkpad/thinkpad nor /dev/thinkpad exists.  Please create the device."  What do I do for that?
[03:48] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?
[03:48] <jamest> slew...so do the usual
[03:48] <jamest> make from source
[03:48] <slew> hehe jamest thats what im trying to do
[03:48] <phase-vii> jamest: And what exactly do I do with the BIOS?
[03:48] <tritium> slew, which program?
[03:48] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: whaat are you running, did yo ever tell?
[03:48] <slew> http://freshmeat.net/projects/gtermix/
[03:48] <jamest> phase-vii , set it to cd running first
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: configure-thinkpad
[03:48] <Antioch> does xnest work with xorg_
[03:49] <budluva> can someone give me a hand here? i have a tnt2 and i ran the nvidia 7174 installer (*.run) and it compiled fine, after installation, remove Load "dri" and Load "GLcore" and add Load "glx" also replaced "nv" with "nvidia" saved, startx, x failed because could not load nvidia kernel module, screen found, but non have usable configuration
[03:49] <phase-vii> jamest: no, it's already gotten past that I know how to use it, just not how to get past whatever is hangin git up in the middle
[03:49] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: so you need to run as root? I mean, run gksudo, tried that? Im not sure that is what you need.
[03:49] <bob2> budluva: ugh
[03:49] <bob2> budluva: you didn't use the nvidia drivers ubuntu ships with?
[03:49] <dwhsix> quick Q: is there any way to have the cursor jump to default button in a dialog?  Looked for it in the expected System | Preferences items, didn't find anything...
[03:49] <durt> budluva: whats wrong with nvidia-glx?
[03:50] <Cryptid> How do i make iso backup of cds using dd command (give me the exact command to be used).....
[03:50] <budluva> cant use nvidia-glx or glx-legacy
[03:50] <budluva> as i have A TNT2 i need 7174 drivers
[03:50] <bob2> Cryptid: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/whateva.iso
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: Actually, it was okay as a normal user, but I'm missing devices, and don't know how to create them.
[03:51] <durt> budluva: get a debian packages then
[03:51] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: I could not tell you, stop asking me, ask the channel, and a good question.
[03:51] <budluva> why?
[03:51] <phase-vii> jamest: It says it can't find the CD-ROM and asks me for to find the device file or something like that
[03:51] <rain`> Hi, how do I restart my sound server?
[03:51] <budluva> whats wrong with the installer?
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> dabaR: Okay, thanks though.
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Someone somewhere must have wanted to remove a deb and all its dependent packages......
[03:51] <dabaR> 4sho
[03:52] <durt> budluva: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/nvidia-glx
[03:52] <dabaR> why?
[03:52] <Antioch> Can I use Xnest with xorg?
[03:52] <dabaR> Antioch: yes
[03:53] <DaSkreech> dabaR:Me?
[03:53] <dabaR> what?
[03:54] <Dk_user> hat??
[03:54] <DaSkreech> dabaR: You said 4Sho
[03:54] <DaSkreech> I was wondering if that was a response to my wailing
[03:54] <dabaR> no.
[03:54] <DaSkreech> :-(
[03:55] <phase-vii> Okay, so does anyone know why Ubuntu can't find the CD-ROM when I run it from the Live CD?
[03:55] <jamest> anywas
[03:55] <jamest> i gg all
[03:56] <jamest> phase-vii , seems like an installer error i get the same
[03:56] <jamest> weird
[03:56] <jamest> i'll report it
[03:56] <jamest> or fix it
[03:56] <Antioch> dabaR, how do I get a program to run on the xnested X display?
[03:56] <farruinn> wow, could you cut off your right pinky for us?
[03:56] <phase-vii> jamest: ah okay thx
[03:56] <dabaR> Antioch: it should load gdm for you.
[03:56] <jamest> thats so obnoxious
[03:56] <Antioch> dabaR, it doesnt, just does the standard gray bg with X cursor
[03:57] <n0odl3> how do i run ./configure?
[03:57] <dabaR> can you open a term, Antioch ?
[03:57] <jamest> Antioch , edit .xinitrc
[03:57] <slew> one of my mandriva friends said gtermix will never compile under debian, i kinda wanna prove him wrong. but so far hes right, since its not wanting to compile past the configure stage.
[03:58] <Antioch> dabaR,  I can open a term in my normal X...
[03:58] <dabaR> Antioch: gdmflexiserver --xnest
[03:58] <jamest> slew
[03:58] <dabaR> slew...
[03:58] <jamest> make a debian package out of the soruce
[03:59] <jamest> slew , do you still have the .tar.gz?
[03:59] <jamest> alien --to-deb (PKG).tar.gz
[03:59] <Antioch> dabaR, is there a way to create a new screen and run applications there?
[04:00] <slew> jamest, yes
[04:00] <dabaR> Antioch: ^
[04:00] <jamest> slew , see above for alien
[04:00] <dabaR> Antioch: I just did it in openbox.
[04:00] <FlannelKing> what is EVMS? anyone?
[04:01] <Antioch> dabaR, ? I would like to start an Xnest with 8 bit color so that I can have a remote x server forward x programs to run on that display
[04:01] <DaSkreech> Can I get some help for keywords when installing ubuntu?
[04:01] <Antioch> dabaR, but I wouldnt like to have gnome running on the other xnest
[04:01] <jamest> Antioch , why not just VNC?
[04:01] <DaSkreech> is the server package ubuntu-server or ubuntu-minimal?
[04:01] <jamest> faster cheaper cooler
[04:01] <DaSkreech> or server keyword actually
[04:02] <Antioch> Jamest server doesnt accept VNC, and the retarted software Im trying to run will only run in 8 bit.... I dont have this problem if I use an X emulator on windows... but with linux, I cant run the damn software =(
[04:02] <nickrud> DaSkreech, server for a fresh install from cd
[04:02] <slew> jamest, so its sudo --to-deb [pkg..] ?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> nickrud: Does that install ubuntu-server or ubuntu-standard?
[04:02] <DaSkreech> I just realized it can't be minimal
[04:03] <Antioch> dabaR, ? what do I need to know about edubuntu
[04:03] <dabaR> stop asking me.
[04:03] <dabaR> ask the #
[04:03] <DaSkreech> Antioch: What are you asking?
[04:03] <Kyral> Antioch, I know about Edubuntu
[04:04] <Antioch> Kyral,  I dont need to know about edubuntu, but ubotu thought dabar said I needed to know about it, lol, thats all
[04:04] <nickrud> DaSkreech, ubuntu-server doesn't exist in breezy; I'm not sure if standard or base is what is installed by server
[04:04] <DaSkreech> nickrud: Ah is it replaced it by something else?
[04:05] <slew> jamest cause it wants a password for alien
[04:05] <nickrud> DaSkreech, I did an apt-cache show ubuntu-<tab> ; no server. I think that's something spec'd for dapper
[04:06] <dabaR> tab?
[04:06] <lab> umm
[04:06] <lab> dustin@lab:~/downloads/MPlayer-1.0pre7try2$ make
[04:06] <lab> bash: make: command not found
[04:06] <lab> no make wtf ?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> lab, get build-essential
[04:06] <crimsun> lab: install mplayer from multiverse
[04:06] <bobbyd_> hi
[04:06] <nickrud> dabaR, hit the tab key, bash completion is very nice
[04:06] <lab> crimsun,  no thanks
[04:07] <tuxedo_kamen> hi everyone
[04:07] <bobbyd_> I have a really annoying problem where remote ssh sessions are dropped after about 5 seconds of inactivity. can anyone suggest where to start looking to sort this out?
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> nickrud, i think dabaR knows the auto complete feature ... he been here for sometimes :P
[04:07] <lab> kk, thanks wickedpuppy
[04:07] <jamest> thats rediculou
[04:07] <jamest> s
[04:07] <jamest> lol
[04:07] <jamest> night all
[04:08] <tuxedo_kamen> listen, is there any vo-ip program for ubuntu, that allows me to perform phonecalls?
[04:08] <slew> thanks jamest
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, skype
[04:08] <bobbyd_> tuxedo_kamen: kphone
[04:08] <tuxedo_kamen> are those free?
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, yes
[04:08] <jamest> slew , new
[04:09] <DaSkreech> nickrud: Did you try a apt-cache search ubuntu-* ?
[04:09] <propagandhi> bobbyd_: you can change that timout in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:09] <tuxedo_kamen> but skype isn't the one where we need to pay for the phone calls?
[04:09] <citrosack> sorry for the windows question  but i am in windows right now and i was wonder  if anyone knew a really good mp3 tag editor for windows  such as easy tag for linux?
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, i been using skype for a year or so now ...
[04:09] <bobbyd_> propagandhi: is it set to 5 seconds by defulat?
[04:09] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O strange
[04:09] <tuxedo_kamen> where can i get it?
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> skype.com ?
[04:10] <bobbyd_> citrosack: itunes? windows media player?
[04:10] <Hobbsee> !tell tuxedo_kamen about skype
[04:10] <propagandhi> bobbyd_: that much I couldnt tell you, but u can set ClientAliveInterval to say 600 and the ClientAliveCountMax  to say 3 and that would equate to half an hour
[04:10] <propagandhi> bobbyd_: so you can do the math as to how long you would like
[04:11] <citrosack> no i ment a GOOD one
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> brown been spliting alot
[04:11] <slew> must be something it ate
[04:11] <citrosack> nevermind wrong place to ask
[04:12] <bjv> why does the kernel with Ubuntu second-guess my bios and shut numlock off for all terminals/x?
[04:12] <bjv> my bios is set to numlock on, and it goes on while POST/grub goes on
[04:12] <bjv> but the kernel switches it off.
[04:14] <slew> so what was the command for making a tar.gz into a debian pkg?
[04:14] <slew> anyone know?
[04:14] <benplaut> slew: install "checkinstall"
[04:14] <nalioth> slew: alien?
[04:14] <nalioth> slew: you should ask a question with more info in it
[04:14] <nalioth> slew: both answers are correct
[04:14] <slew> ok
[04:14] <benplaut> then run "checkinstall bleh" after "make" to turn it into a deb
[04:15] <slew> ahh i cant get to 'make' i cant get past ./configure
[04:15] <nalioth> benplaut: what if slew is converting a slackware source file?
[04:15] <chemisus> which ftp server is recommended mostly?
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> chemisus, opensource one
[04:15] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with them?
[04:15] <benplaut> nalioth: good point, but unlikely
[04:16] <abarbaccia_> hey all - how do i make ubuntu stop shutting off my monitor - my system is hooked up to a TV and it keeps powering off when i don't want it to
[04:16] <benplaut> are slack packages usually .tgz instaed of .tar.gz? (same thing, diff name)
[04:16] <tuxedo_kamen> hum.... <_< it doesn't allow me to install libqt3c102-mt !!!
[04:16] <slew> nalioth, if i were doing anything with slackware i wouldnt be asking such dumb questions. =]
[04:16] <benplaut> tuxedo_kamen: trying to install opera?
[04:16] <nalioth> slew: just pointing out that binaries from slack come in tar.gz format
[04:17] <krystoff> bur[n] er, even with a new user i can't
[04:17] <slew> alien wants a password, i put my pw in and it didnt like it and now it wont let me retry
[04:17] <durt> yeah, use the debian opera package (not the ubuntu one)
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> wtf
[04:17] <tuxedo_kamen> benplaut, skype
[04:17] <krystoff> it seems like if the repo filedir is wrong
[04:17] <krystoff> there's nothing at the specified url i can't even wget the extension
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, skype ... it has .deb just use dpkg
[04:18] <benplaut> oh
[04:18] <tuxedo_kamen> wickedpuppy, I have no idea on how to do that
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> tuxedo_kamen, then how ya installing skype ?
[04:19] <tuxedo_kamen> synaptic?
[04:19] <_native_> what was that all about?
[04:19] <benplaut> oohhhh
[04:19] <glauc> anyone else having CVS problems with eclipse?
[04:19] <tuxedo_kamen> but it just froze, and I have no idea on how to unfreeze it! >_<
[04:19] <benplaut> yeah, the official skype deb is b0rked
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> skype is in synaptic ? not in mine
[04:19] <benplaut> aliening the mandrake RPM works fine
[04:19] <benplaut> wickedpuppy: there's an official repo for it
[04:19] <tuxedo_kamen> wickedpuppy, I added that repository
[04:19] <tuxedo_kamen> brb
[04:19] <wickedpuppy> oh the repo .. i see yup
[04:20] <slew> alien: command not found
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> slew, sudo apt-get install alien
[04:20] <tritium> slew, then you should install it
[04:20] <benplaut> sudo apt-get install alien
[04:20] <benplaut> woops
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> make sure you install predator too
[04:20] <benplaut> too slow :(
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> so there will be alien vs predator
[04:20] <cansa> how would i find out which version of u dev i have?
[04:21] <cyphase> ooohh
[04:21] <tuxedo_kamen> ?? skype
[04:21] <cyphase> aaahh
[04:21] <slew> wickedpuppy, tritium, heh doing it now.. [sorry, dont be haten!]
[04:21] <tritium> cansa, one way is with "dpkg -l udev"
[04:21] <cyphase> i'm running an ubuntu live cd in qemu
[04:21] <cyphase> :)
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> cansa, udevinfo -V
[04:21] <cansa> cheers guys
[04:21] <tuxedo_kamen> so, how can I install Skype, can anyone please help me? :|
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> i thought you are using the repo ?
[04:22] <ishP> hi all
[04:22] <tritium> slew, "haten" is not a word I'm familiar with
[04:22] <[koji] > tuxedo_kamen, didn't skype had a deb
[04:22] <slew> sorry
[04:22] <benplaut> tritium: you aren't from 'round here, are ya?
[04:22] <tritium> benplaut, where's that?
[04:23] <benplaut> round here, we don't liak furners
[04:23] <benplaut> the not-so-southern-hospitality :P
[04:25] <holycow> tuxedo_kamen, download the righ file from skype website, in terminal do dpkg -i file.deb to install
[04:25] <holycow> thats pretty much it
[04:25] <tritium> benplaut, it's the incorrect spelling...
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> benplaut, liak furners ?
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> .............
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> synapctic froze again
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> I think I found a bug
[04:25] <nalioth> can anyone help me get my wireless usb stick working on my ibook?
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> i get thie error:
[04:25] <durt> benplaut, thats a negro word, not a southern word
[04:25] <_native_> the term hate'in origiantes in the getos of the U.S
[04:25] <_native_> *gettos
[04:25] <bur[n] er> day took er jawbs
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:<IP_ADDRESS>) but it is not installable
[04:25] <tuxedo_kamen> any idea on what to do?
[04:25] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: get the static pkg
[04:25] <slew> benplaut, so when it says gtermix_0.2-2_all.deb generated, what do i do then?
[04:25] <_native_> arabic coffee is very potent
[04:26] <benplaut> slew: "sudo dpkg -i gtermix_0.2-2_all.deb"
[04:26] <nalioth> slew: install it
[04:28] <durt> lol @ bur[n] er
[04:28] <nekostar> yeah
[04:28] <nekostar> my vid card isnt working atm !_!
[04:28] <nekostar> nvidia fx5200... i noticed uuber lag in the screensavers... how can i try to fix something like that?
[04:28] <slew> ok, it said setting up gtermix, i tried running gtermix, command not found. where did it install to?
[04:28] <slew> [you guys effen rule]
[04:28] <bur[n] er> _native_: it's ghetto you illiterrate buffoon ;)
[04:29] <mtupper> hey all, full rookie here with the most basic of issues: i need to install a package from the CLI and not the nifty Synaptic GUI...  so i must learn some commands and I am having a heck of time figuring this out...   in terminal i was told to type:   $ apt-get install <package>     ...is this correct or am i missing something?
[04:29] <_native_> lol
[04:29] <_native_> dunt you takl liak tat at me
[04:31] <slew> nalioth, benplaut i dont think alien did anything, i cant find where it installed gtermix
[04:31] <mtupper> oops, i forgot to add sudo (i knew that):    $ sudo apt-get install <pkg>
[04:31] <_native_> sudo apt-get install package
[04:31] <_native_> !sudo
[04:34] <cansa> how do install udev 070?
[04:34] <mtupper> _native_:  oh, and this too:  when i do 'ls' it shows the package i want to install right there, then i run this cmd and it says:
[04:34] <mtupper> Reading package lists... Done
[04:34] <mtupper> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:34] <_native_> is the network slow or what?
[04:34] <_native_> seems to be crawling
[04:34] <nekostar> yeah thats right mtupper
[04:34] <slew> so if alien doesnt work then this program just wont work on ubuntu?
[04:34] <mtupper> E: Couldn't find package <pkg name>
[04:34] <nekostar> but you need to make sure your sources are uncommented
[04:35] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:36] <nekostar> and then do sudo apt-get update
[04:36] <nekostar> o: i bet your just missing the sudo
[04:36] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install package
[04:36] <nekostar> :)
[04:36] <bjv> mtupper: apt-get apt-cache and dpkg are pretty handy, you can do alot more with the terminal(like | grep and dpkg -c to find files on your box) that you cant do with the gui.
[04:38] <tuxedo_kamen> it didn't work, oh well...
[04:39] <nekostar> mtupper, your not typing in the $ right?
[04:39] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install xchat <<-- installs what im talking to ya through atm :D
[04:39] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phone calls?
[04:39] <nickrud> can someone tell me what those two bars below the user list in xchat indicate?
[04:39] <nalioth> slew: in your build directory, do an "ls" and see what binaries have been made
[04:39] <nalioth> mtupper: that is correct
[04:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mtupper about apt-get
[04:40] <nalioth> can anyone help me get my wireless usb stick working on my ibook?
[04:40] <tuxedo_kamen> hey, it's nalioth!
[04:40] <tuxedo_kamen> hi! :D
[04:40] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: know anything about broadcom wireless chipsets?
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O no, why?
[04:41] <mtupper> ok, so let me ask something maybe even more basic...   i can install debian packages with this command?
[04:41] <mtupper> sudo apt-get install <package.deb>
[04:41] <nalioth> tuxedo_kamen: because ndisreaper doesnt work on powerpc
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> that sounded like chinese to me
[04:41] -dmwaters(i=dmwaters@freenode/staff/gentoo.dmwaters)- {global notice} Hi all! one of our sponsors is doing some router maintenence, this is scheduled maintenence. In the process, I'm going to upgrade one of the main rotation servers. this won't effect anyone, since the server has already dropped it's users. Thank you for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> >_<
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls? :|
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> how do i setup VNc so it has java enabled?
[04:41] <nalioth> mtupper: enable universe and multiverse
[04:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mtupper about repos
[04:41] <cge_> _native_: well, calvino is split.
[04:41] <shoddy> hi i tried to install ubuntu onto my laptop but it hung at the part where it detects the cd
[04:41] <phinnaeus> can someone give me assistance with my sound card?
[04:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shoddy about verify
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> i start up VNC and it is on ports 6001 and 5901 but i try to connect in a browser and it doesn't work
[04:41] <illicit> Loneowlf: I believe, the browser part of VNC is a Java viewer correct?
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> yes...
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> :S
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> and java is enabled on my computer
[04:41] <Nihil> an hd can't multiplicate its partitions randomly
[04:41] <Nihil> i cannot believe it
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls from my home pc?
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> illicit:yes, why?
[04:41] <illicit> LoveWolf: Just seeing if i could understand your situation.
[04:41] <illicit> Apprently i can't spell
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> lol, i've used VNC before
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> and i know there are 2 ways, a VNc viewer, Then A Jvascript p
[04:41] <illicit> yah
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> javascript*
[04:41] <illicit> the java viewer is on a different port than the regular viewer i believe
[04:41] <illicit> 6002 maybe
[04:41] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: search synaptic for VoIP
[04:41] <illicit> first off, are you using....VNC or "Tight VNC"
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> VNC-common
[04:41] <illicit> okay
[04:41] <Nihil> ??????
[04:41] <Nihil> today is the poltergeist day!?!?!?
[04:41] <Nihil> first my hd then the channel?
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> illicit:there's 6001 and 5901 ... those are both open
[04:41] <illicit> alright
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> CarlFK, but I don't know what to install! :|
[04:41] <illicit> are you attempting this locally or remotely?
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> locally
[04:41] <Nintendofreq> I need help...
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> and i nmap it and i can see te open ports
[04:41] <illicit> did u make sure u enabled the java script option to me turned on?
[04:41] <illicit> or did u just start the server....
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> vncserver
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> just that
[04:41] <bob2> LoneWolf071: nmap of yourself is of no use
[04:41] <tuxedo_kamen> anyone knows of a program for ubuntu that allows me to make phonecalls from my home pc? -_-
[04:41] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: Try kphone
[04:41] <bob2> mtupper: no
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> what's the arg to start the javascript version
[04:41] <bob2> tuxedo_kamen: shtoom
[04:41] <Nintendofreq> Can anyone here help me with installation
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:What do You Need?
[04:41] <shoddy> hey yeah me too
[04:42] <tuxedo_kamen> bob2, what? o_O
[04:42] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Err....i can't recall, "man vncserver"
[04:44] <shoddy> my install hangs at the part when it searches for the cd
[04:44] <mtupper> nalioth:  can you elaborate?  i did that in synaptic, but in terminal CLI, its beyond my current know-how...
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> illicit:i think it's a seperate package
[04:44] <Nintendofreq> I'm running off live CD and want to dual boot with XP. Ive never really used linux before...
[04:44] <Aven> hey
[04:44] <shoddy> and it complains about irq 15 on the virtual console
[04:44] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: you will proably want an account from http://www.freeworlddialup.com/
[04:44] <Aven> is there a way to install gd library using apt-get ?
[04:44] <Gobbla_> anybody know a good ripping software that support x264?
[04:44] <illicit> LoneWolf071: You might, be right...give me a couple minutes, ill run through it
[04:44] <Nintendofreq> I'm mostly worried about partitioning the HD. Cant find free tool thats easy.
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:Ok, Well First, Back Up All Of Your Data
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> illicit:Ok, TY
[04:44] <Nintendofreq> got that
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:Ok, So Next, You Need To Partition Your Drive
[04:44] <Nihil> hallo
[04:44] <bjv> mtupper: what did you need? repos are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <bob2> "ripping" of what?
[04:44] <Nihil> i have a very big problem, not concerning Ubuntu. a damaged HD portatile box has EATEN an hardisk of mine... now it seems not formatted and both windows and linux cannot read it
[04:44] <Nintendofreq> I have the ubuntu install CD too
[04:44] <Nihil> can anyone help me?
[04:44] <Nihil> a program to rescue hardisk?
[04:45] <mtupper> bob2:  no what?  no, i cant install debian packages using 'sudo get-apt install <pkg.deb> ???
[04:46] <tuxedo_kamen> carlfk, what should I write in "User Part of SIP URL:" and "Host Part of SIP URL:"?
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:Ok, We Can Guess That, But You Need To
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> PArtition Your Drive
[04:46] <odie5533> How do I change my default java version to SUN?
[04:46] <newbie2> hello all
[04:46] <Nintendofreq> how?
[04:46] <illicit> LoneWolf071: You have to seperately install the java pkg of vnc...
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> Nintendofreq:http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/partitioneditors.shtml
[04:46] <sri> hi all
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> illicit:is the package name vnc-java?
[04:46] <sri> question, does anybody have a deb of the new rhythmbox?
[04:46] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: it is like buying a phone, and getting service.  you need both, so get the service from http://www.freeworlddialup.com
[04:46] <nalioth> mtupper: elaborate on what?
[04:46] <sri> also does anybody have a deb of the last release of evolution?
[04:46] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: there are others, but I like FWD
[04:46] <shoddy> hi i need some help installing onto my laptop
[04:46] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Yes
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> well i do apt-get install vnc-java nad it tells me the package is obsolete
[04:46] <tuxedo_kamen> -_- CarlFK, can I please PM you?
[04:46] <bob2> mtupper: correct
[04:46] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: no
[04:46] <newbie2> what are the odds of making an ATI Radoeon Mobility  card work
[04:46] <tuxedo_kamen> ok...
[04:46] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: A) others should see thistoo, b) I am about to go
[04:46] <bjv> mtupper: oh, no no,   you need  dpkg
[04:46] <bjv> mtupper: man dpkg   in the terminal
[04:46] <shoddy> can anyone help me?
[04:47] <bob2> LoneWolf071: uh, the ubuntu installer includes a partioning tool
[04:47] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: do you want to just talk to other computer users, or people with just a phone (no computer)?
[04:47] <nickrud> odie5533, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:47] <mtupper> ah, ok guys, let me read up on that first, thanks...
[04:47] <tuxedo_kamen> just a phone, no computer, carlfk !
[04:47] <illicit> LoneWolf071: My apt-get install worked perfect..
[04:47] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Do you have default Repositories?
[04:47] <LoneWolf071> kk
[04:47] <LoneWolf071> yes
[04:47] <odie5533> nickrud, thanks
[04:47] <Nihil> hallo
[04:48] <LoneWolf071> and the universal
[04:48] <Nihil> i have a very big problem, not concerning Ubuntu. a damaged HD portatile box has EATEN an hardisk of mine... now it seems not formatted and both windows and linux cannot read it
[04:48] <Nihil> can anyone help me?
[04:48] <Nihil> a program to rescue hardisk?
[04:48] <newbie2> rescue how
[04:48] <mtupper> tuxedo_kamen: kphone and linphone are SIP phones you can use with many services like FWD for making inet phone calls to the pstn...
[04:48] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Give me 1 second and ill grab an updated list of working Repos....Hoary HedgeHog your distro?
[04:48] <LoneWolf071> bob2:Ok, Didn't Know, And Sometimes The Text PArtitioning can be hard for newbs
[04:48] <LoneWolf071> yes
[04:48] <tuxedo_kamen> mtupper, sorry but I didn't understand anything you just said :|
[04:49] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: ok, then FWD wont help. (that is just for computer to computer calls)
[04:49] <tuxedo_kamen> :-\ so... how can I do it?
[04:49] <illicit> LoneWolf071: http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup
[04:49] <bjv> Nihil: if you put a drive in an external enclosure and now it does not work. does that mean it was dropped?
[04:49] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: for computer to phone, you will need to pay, like 2cents per min
[04:49] <illicit> LoneWolf071: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources_list"
[04:49] <bjv> Nihil: or that the enclosure contained a logic board and turned your disk into half of a raid or something.
[04:49] <tuxedo_kamen> o_O
[04:50] <tuxedo_kamen> is there no free one?
[04:50] <newbie2> nihil go to www.nonags.com and download the ultimate boot cd excelent partion tool for free
[04:50] <foxgamer> Hi all. I seem to have made a mess with my screensavers. Is there anyone that can help?
[04:50] <Nihil> bjv, no. it means that before the HD worked. Now it's like a poltergeist possess it
[04:50] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/What+is+VOIP
[04:50] <shoddy> hi can someone please help me out?
[04:50] <Nihil> newbie2, thanks. i will do it
[04:50] <LoneWolf071> illicit:i got it... i know how to do that simple stuff
[04:50] <newbie2> I have used it to repair many HDs
[04:50] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: the only free is computer to computer.  as soon as a phone company is involved, there is a charge
[04:51] <Nihil> bjv, the HD seems to be not partitioned, even if it was FAT32
[04:51] <illicit> LoneWolf071: :) Just making sure.
[04:51] <bjv> Nihil: well if you can attache the disk to an IDE channel, and find it with /dev/hdXY then the drive is probably OK. though might be unparted
[04:51] <LoneWolf071> illicit:Ty
[04:51] <tuxedo_kamen> carlfk, but... so, how do you explain that I found one that work but ONLY for some countries?
[04:51] <Nihil> bjv, can we talk in private?
[04:51] <bjv> Nihil: just try hitting it with an fdisk or similar, some programs can guess at deleted parts.
[04:52] <bjv> assuming the drive hasnt been formated.
[04:52] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/What+is+VOIP
[04:52] <tuxedo_kamen> ... i already saw that
[04:52] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: did you read it?
[04:52] <tuxedo_kamen> but i also told you that i saw one that works, but ONLY for some countries!
[04:52] <LoneWolf071> illicit:Let Me Ask, What Port Does Apt use, 80?
[04:52] <tuxedo_kamen> I mean, I was able to call spanish phones, but not portuguese ones! >_<
[04:52] <shoddy> does anyone know how to disable irqs for the install program?
[04:52] <shoddy> i know that irq 15 is causing the problem
[04:53] <bird> i need help
[04:53] <LoneWolf071> bird:give us a little more then that
[04:53] <illicit> LoneWolf071: It uses whichever port is listed in the repos....ftp = 20-21, http = 80
[04:53] <newbie2> you set irqs in the bios right
[04:53] <bird> when i run a .run file it tells me to be a super user
[04:54] <bird> but i cant run it in terminal
[04:54] <CarlFK> tuxedo_kamen: no clue.  I haven't seen any limitations like that
[04:54] <shoddy> yeah, but my bios is very simple, ibm thinkpad
[04:54] <bird> so how do i run it
[04:54] <newbie2> mmm
[04:54] <CarlFK> thats it, I am outa here.
[04:54] <bird> when i run a .run file it tells me to be a super user
[04:54] <newbie2> bird what?
[04:54] <bird> but i cant run it in terminal
[04:54] <CaNzA> great the server is takin a dump on my screen
[04:54] <bird> so how do i run it
[04:54] <tuxedo_kamen> carlfk, I would show you the site, but I only have it on windows! >_<
[04:54] <Phuzion> Is php4 taken off of the Ubuntu apt-get?
[04:54] <LoneWolf071> illicit:i updated the sources, but got a bunch of dead links or "failed to open file"
[04:54] <LoneWolf071> Err ftp://ftp2.caliu.info hoary-backports/restricted Packages
[04:54] <LoneWolf071>   Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '
[04:54] <budluva> bird alt-f2 then gksudo blah.run
[04:54] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Your using Hoary Hedgehog correct?
[04:54] <bird> i need to run a shell script in gnome but while i am a super user
[04:54] <tuxedo_kamen> carlfk, thanks anyway, I guess i'll be going to bed
[04:54] <lajuj> howdy
[04:54] <bird> ty
[04:54] <LoneWolf071> yes
[04:55] <newbie2> sudo -s
[04:55] <newbie2> bird try sudo -s
[04:55] <Phuzion> Did php4 get taken off of apt-get or something?
[04:55] <illicit> LoneWolf071:  Ok your messed up in some way...make sure all the repos that were previously in there are gone
[04:55] <LoneWolf071> they are
[04:55] <bird> okey that helped alot it works now
[04:55] <newbie2> just type exit to get back out of the root bird
[04:55] <illicit> LoneWolf071: And delete the "Backports" section... since backports for ubuntu always change
[04:55] <illicit> LoneWolf071: should be #Backports and 2 URLS...delete those
[04:55] <LoneWolf071> illicit:backports?
[04:56] <Phuzion> Anyone here know a bit about apt-get?
[04:56] <LoneWolf071> illicit:Backup?
[04:56] <lajuj> is there someone who could give a bit of help with my wireless setup.  I have a laptop use cable at home and wireless on the go.  I've finally gotten the drivers installed for my wireless card, but I haven't had any luck connecting to wireless networks.
[04:56] <LoneWolf071> Phuzion:Join The Convo.
[04:56] <illicit> LoneWolf071: The very last section under sources_list...is #Back*  delete it...
[04:56] <Phuzion> I would, but no one's talking on subject's I'm familiar with
[04:57] <newbie2> any one know of a driver for an ATI Radeon 9000 on a notebook
[04:57] <Discipulus> what Kern is Breezy running?
[04:57] <illicit> 2.6
[04:57] <Agrajag> Linux mwowm 2.6.12-9-k7 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:47:52 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:57] <Agrajag> that one
[04:57] <Discipulus> oh
[04:58] <mtupper> FINALLY!!!  the magic combo:  sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>  ...   you guys must laugh when a rookie dwells over something so simple, but how gratifying to finally get it going!!!  another convert well on his way.   peace-out--
[04:58] <Discipulus> they got packages out for 2.6.14 yet?
[04:58] <Agrajag> Discipulus: no, and they never will in breezy
[04:58] <LoneWolf071> illicit:it works, TY
[04:58] <odie5533> Any Ubuntu dev here?
[04:58] <illicit> Agrajag: How is gnome2???
[04:58] <nomasteryoda|w> mtupper, where abouts are you from?...
[04:58] <illicit> Agrajag: Or whatever it's labeled
[04:59] <sells> tritium: hey Mike
[04:59] <lajuj> Ubuntu sees my wireless card, but I am not sure about how to actually find and connect to wireless networks.  Can someone help me?
[04:59] <Agrajag> huh? it's fine, I've been using gnome 2.x since it came out
[04:59] <illicit> LoneWolf071: Alright no problem, did u grab java-vnc?
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> mtupper, down in GA, usa
[04:59] <mtupper> i am from Portland, OR and living in Vina del Mar, Chile.
[04:59] <nomasteryoda|w> wow
[04:59] <kevman> Will Ubuntu release packages for OpenOffice 2.0.0?
[05:00] <Agrajag> kevman: yes, in Dapper.
[05:00] <Phuzion> lajuj, do you have the proper drivers loaded for your wireless card?
[05:00] <newbie2> lajuj click on system then administration and then network
[05:00] <Quest-Master> nomasteryoda|w: where in GA?
[05:00] <lajuj> phuzion, I do
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, you can make them pretty simply using the alien package
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> Macon
[05:00] <Quest-Master> Ah, I'm in Kennesaw
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> cool
[05:00] <lajuj> phuzion, Ubuntu sees my wireless card, I believe
[05:00] <kevman> Alien an RPM, you mean, nomasteryoda|w ?
[05:00] <nomasteryoda|w> alien
[05:01] <kevman> Becuase 1.9.129 is fucking unstable.
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> is a conversion tool for making packages into format for the distro you use
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, apt-get install alien
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> then type man alien
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> very simple to do
[05:01] <nomasteryoda|w> really
[05:02] <kevman> That's what I mean. Then convert what package?
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, you get the whole rpm package from openoffice
[05:02] <foxgamer> Could I trouble someone for some help regarding an error I'm getting with my screensavers?
[05:02] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, extract it
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> then "alien -d *.rpm"
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> that is if -d is right
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> did 2 weeks ago
[05:03] <kevman> Oh, the install is a tar.gz  RPM?
[05:03] <newbie2> anyone here do much with embeded?
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> rpms inside that file
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> yes
[05:03] <nomasteryoda|w> newbie2, not me
[05:04] <kevman> Alright.
[05:04] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, the menu option is already in deb format and will install perfectly on ubuntu
[05:04] <phinnaeus> what is the process for installing sound card drivers?
[05:04] <newbie2> I just had some questions about flash memory
[05:05] <phinnaeus> does anyone know?
[05:05] <kevman> nomasteryoda|w, what menu option?
[05:06] <newbie2> phinnaeus have you tried the wiki
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> kevman, there's a folder inside that file that contains menu items for all common distro installer formats
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> works well
[05:07] <kevman> Ok, I'll have to look at the contents. But my INternet is horrible and the download won't be done till tommorow.
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> you'll get it going
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> uninstall the one that's there
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> i removed all references on suse and ubuntu on my boxes
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> and installed the 2.0 from oo site
[05:08] <newbie2> phinnaeus https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards?highlight=%28cards%29%7C%28sound%29
[05:09] <kevman> Its current condition is unusably crashappy
[05:11] <bobbyd_> hi
[05:11] <nomasteryoda|w> howdy bobbyd_
[05:11] <bobbyd_> I accientally deleted some files belonging to a package, how do I force it to remove the rest of the file, or just force it to reinstall the package?
[05:12] <Nihil85> hello
[05:12] <newbie2> nomasterhoda|w how long have you been in Linux
[05:12] <bobbyd_> Nihil85: hi
[05:12] <xulin> nanuit
[05:12] <nomasteryoda|w> newbie2, since about 1998
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> used in 1996 for a while
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> so pretty much a long time
[05:13] <solidgroove> how can I get mp3 support in sound juicer, theres no gstreamer-lame in universe
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> linux is so good and fun
[05:13] <newbie2> last time i messed with Unix was in 96 it is comming back slowly
[05:13] <nalioth> solidgroove: gstreamer0.8- whatever you desire
[05:13] <nomasteryoda|w> even with issues like gstreamer
[05:13] <nalioth> solidgroove: for mp3, -mad
[05:14] <bobbyd_> anyone? I need to do it fro the command line as well...
[05:14] <goatboy> solidgroove: gstreamer0.8-lame is in multiverse
[05:14] <newbie2> took me a while to solve the codec riddle
[05:15] <newbie2> M$ hid it well
[05:16] <newbie2> is there anything that will let you use winbox video drivers
[05:16] <nalioth> newbie2: winbox?
[05:16] <newbie2> windows
[05:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell newbie2 about w32codecs
[05:16] <newbie2> i have the codec
[05:17] <newbie2> i need to use a driver
[05:17] <_native_> ?
[05:17] <nut543> now me goes
[05:17] <_native_> lates
[05:17] <lajuj> can someone help me a bit configuring my wireless card - My drivers are installed, but even when I activate the card in networking I still am not detecting wireless networks
[05:17] <_native_> what card chipset?
[05:18] <lajuj> broadcom
[05:18] <_native_> lajuj,
[05:18] <newbie2> ndiswrapper?
[05:18] <lajuj> I have rung ndiswrapper and installed the drivers just fine
[05:18] <lajuj> and when I ifconfig I see the wlan0
[05:18] <newbie2> r u using the correct wep
[05:19] <lajuj> well, I don't have a specific wireless network
[05:19] <lajuj> I just want to be able to connect to whatever is around
[05:19] <newbie2> well you will need the wep for what ever is around
[05:19] <nalioth> newbie2: you do not, for open networks
[05:19] <newbie2> true
[05:19] <nalioth> lajuj: iwlist --help doesn't enlighten you?
[05:19] <newbie2> just have not seen many of those
[05:20] <_native_> i see tons in my area
[05:20] <lab> Changing gdeskcal font size ?
[05:20] <newbie2> must be nice
[05:20] <_native_> its amazing how people just plug it their routers and thinks thats it.
[05:20] <newbie2> i dont doubt it now that you mention it
[05:21] <_native_> me thinks :-P
[05:21] <lajuj> nalioth, let me check iwlist out
[05:21] <_native_> i dont touch others nets though.
[05:21] <_native_> unless they dont care.
[05:22] <newbie2> people around here are not so generous
[05:22] <newbie2> I see about 12 around my house all secure
[05:22] <billyoc> here either, just stupid
[05:23] <rain`> Hi, I am trying to run the command # echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss from a sh file, but obviously the sh file thinks its a comment, how do I run that from the file?
[05:23] <newbie2> I know I turned off my SSID and locked it with wep
[05:24] <Discipulus> when will breezy have the package for 2.6.14
[05:24] <apokryphos> never
[05:24] <apokryphos> Breezy has been released
[05:24] <goatboy> rain`: remove the # when you run it.
[05:25] <rain`> goatboy: then you get a permission denied error, you need the # when you run it in terminal
[05:25] <rain`> goatboy: it does work like that, i dont know why
[05:25] <goatboy> rain`: the # just means it's meant to be run as root, run this:
[05:25] <goatboy> echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone tell me how to create a device?  I'm getting an error message of /dev/thinkpad/thinkpad and /dev/thinkpad not found; device does not exist; please create device, and I don't know how to do that.
[05:26] <newbie2> wouldnt you know it the only thing I found about the ATI Radeon on the Wiki and its in Italian
[05:26] <YAFU> lmao
[05:26] <arthurse> how to kill a application that freeze?
[05:27] <GigaClon> GAIM has not been able to login to AIM for a couple of days
[05:27] <ispiked> when will ubuntu package x-chat 2.6.0?
[05:27] <rain`> GigaClon: mine works just fine, so it must be on your end
[05:27] <Madpilot> newbie2: there's English ATI info on wiki.ubuntu.com too
[05:27] <newbie2> Aim has a virus on the lose
[05:27] <mustard5> arthurse, which application?
[05:27] <rain`> its a super virus too...:P
[05:27] <newbie2> i ll try again
[05:28] <madalena> hello
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> I'm logged into AIM with Gaim just fine right now.  (Although it has been a little sketchy and disconnecting occasionally as of late.)
[05:28] <YAFU> Aim has a virus?
[05:28] <geoizil> I always get disconnected of AIM
[05:28] <newbie2> root kit
[05:29] <YAFU> cute
[05:29] <newbie2> some url shows up if you goto it it installs a root kit
[05:29] <GigaClon> trobleshooting help?
[05:29] <rain`> goatboy: well that works, but it asks me for a password :( the # method didnt seem to need that
[05:29] <Madpilot> !tell newbie2 about ati
[05:29] <brist0w> hello. anyone here from canada? any of you use shipit?
[05:29] <newbie2> i would like to know myself madpilot
[05:29] <YAFU> # was just stating you need to run the command as a super user :o
[05:29] <goatboy> rain`: the # method didn't run at all :)
[05:29] <nalioth> newbie2: then check your msgs
[05:30] <Madpilot> newbie2: you should have gotten a msg from ubotu - that was a command to the bot
[05:30] <rain`> goatboy: it ran from the terminal and didnt ask me for a password, but it didnt run from the sh file
[05:30] <newbie2> wasnt watching sorry
[05:30] <GigaClon> its says can't connect to host
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> brist0w: I'm in Canada, but I'm from the States.  Someone else in the room might be able to answer a question though; what do you need?
[05:30] <newbie2> thanx
[05:31] <newbie2> i forget about that sometimes
[05:31] <brist0w> just wondering about how long ship-to-delivery takes. found out about it recently, ordered it, and was delayed because of the upcoming release. the order was handed off to the shipping company about 3 weeks ago, but it still hasn't arrived... wondering if that's typical or not
[05:31] <rain`> YAFU: Why does # not ask me for a password then?
[05:31] <solidgroove> multiverse is broken?
[05:31] <arthurse> mustard5, xmule freeze!
[05:32] <Antioch> What command can I use to search the PATH for a binary file?
[05:32] <newbie2> Madpilot do you know anything about Looking Glass? is it very stable?
[05:32] <goatboy> rain`: in sh, everything after a # is treated as a comment (meaning it isn't run)
[05:32] <nalioth> brist0w: 4-8 weeks
[05:32] <brist0w> also, what's a decent-performing minimum config for an ubuntu system? if I can install it on a PIII-600 with 128M RAM, is that a decent machine, or should I be looking for something more muscular? should I inisit on more memory (a-la-windows :)?
[05:32] <Madpilot> newbie2: I don't even know what "Looking Glass" is...
[05:32] <mustard5> arthurse, try killall <applicationname>
[05:33] <nalioth> brist0w: more memory is good for all OS'
[05:33] <arthurse> mustard5, worked, tnx
[05:33] <mustard5> arthurse, or alternatively click rapidly on the kill button for a while
[05:33] <brist0w> nalioth: thanks. then i shall simply bit shift my patience one bit left. :)
[05:33] <nalioth> brist0w: you can run a light window manager on that machine
[05:33] <Madpilot> brist0w: I think they ship surface - cheaper - and I know it's shipped from Europe
[05:33] <newbie2> Java 3d desktop
[05:33] <Gobbla_> i would say 4-8 wks if you're lucky
[05:34] <newbie2> sun i am sorry sun
[05:34] <Gobbla_> isn't shipit factory located in holland?
[05:34] <CarlFK> brist0w: I find the basic Ubuntu is usable on a P2-333, 128mb.  96mb is way slower, 256mb is a little faster
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> brist0w: (re: Madpilot) Netherlands, specifically.
[05:35] <newbie2> if you have some good hardware it is http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/
[05:35] <brist0w> i haven't played with linux in about 2 or 3 years. last i checked, there were big differences in filesystem organization and package management between the redhat-ish and debian-ish distros. what heritage does ubuntu claim?
[05:35] <CarlFK> brist0w: and what you are used to will make a huge difference.  my P2 box seems much slower now that I also have a P4 1.7g
[05:35] <brist0w> Carl: :)
[05:35] <CarlFK> brist0w: Ubuntu is based on Debian
[05:35] <Madpilot> brist0w: Ubuntu is Debian
[05:35] <GigaClon> britst0w, debian
[05:36] <YAFU> :s
[05:36] <brist0w> debian still around, or is that what it has become?
[05:36] <Gobbla_> its a fork
[05:36] <newbie2> still around
[05:36] <Madpilot> brist0w: Debian is still Debian - Ubuntu is a fork (or a spoon, to some people) ;)
[05:37] <n0odl3> ?
[05:37] <n0odl3> strangness
[05:37] <brist0w> ok. will have to dredge up what i remember. never really played with debian, as such. used it "by proxy" through the corel distro
[05:37] <billyoc> Lazy Debian
[05:37] <newbie2> take care all
[05:37] <n0odl3> i heard that people are already using dapper drake
[05:37] <n0odl3> is this true?
[05:38] <mustard5> n0odl3, at their own peril yest
[05:38] <Madpilot> the "spoon" joke is explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[05:38] <brist0w> is ubuntu evolving rapidly? or is mostly mature already?
[05:38] <GigaClon> both
[05:38] <Gobbla_> has it something to do with the matrix?
[05:38] <Gobbla_> :)
[05:39] <mustard5> n0odl3, I would imagine it would be very unstable from day to day :)
[05:40] <Gobbla_> Madpilot: i dont see it explained anywhere..
[05:40] <_native_> i hate bug #1
[05:41] <_native_> :-)
[05:41] <Madpilot> Gobbla_: hmm, thought it was there...
[05:41] <brist0w> Quoted: Is Ubuntu a Debian fork? Or spoon? What sort of silverware are you, man?
[05:41] <brist0w> Yes, Ubuntu is a fork. No, it isn't. Yes it is! Oh, whatever.
[05:41] <_native_> who cares it rocks!
[05:42] <brist0w> that should allow a fruitful search ...
[05:42] <bobbyd> hi, I have this error when I try to remove freenx, I accidently deleted some of it's files: dpkg: error processing freenx (--configure). how can i fix that?
[05:43] <bobbyd> that was my other client that quit btw, I'mstill here :)
[05:44] <mustard5> bobbyd, reinstall and uninstall propely this time?
[05:44] <bobbyd> mustard5, how do I reinstall?
[05:44] <bobbyd> mustard5, I can't get apt-get to force it to do it
[05:44] <mustard5> bobbyd, I don't know then
[05:46] <farruinn> do programs with debuggins symbols run slower? (/me trying to figure out why they don't come with symbols included by default)
[05:46] <rixth> Quick non-Ubuntu question, I'm working for a client who has a FreeBSD 5.4 server, what is the package manager for it?
[05:46] <_native_> bobbyd, it wont reinstall
[05:47] <farruinn> freebsd use the ports system?
[05:47] <_native_> ?
[05:48] <propagandhi> farruinn: you should try #freebsd
[05:48] <Lord_Maynoth> Will Dapper automatically configure and mount your windows partitions without having to download and run a script (like in breezy)???
[05:48] <rixth> Thanks!
[05:48] <kevman> w00t.
[05:48] <farruinn> propagandhi: actually it was rixth that was asking :)
[05:48] <Agrajag> farruinn: yes, they do run slower, and take up more memory and disk space
[05:48] <propagandhi> farruinn: yes, sorry
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> I managed to mess up gnome-app-install, and reinstalling didn't fix it.  I've asked about this earlier to no avail, so let me know if you think you can be of help.
[05:48] <farruinn> propagandhi: no problem :)
[05:48] <_native_> w00t?
[05:48] <_native_> ;-]
[05:49] <kevman> My roommate just chucked a printer out the window
[05:49] <_native_> lol
[05:49] <Lord_Maynoth> lol
[05:49] <farruinn> kevman: what floor?
[05:49] <propagandhi> kevman: you should chuck your roomate out the window too
[05:49] <CaNsA> ok ive followed the guide but my fekin modem still wont work
[05:50] <propagandhi> kevman: and tell him to get anger management therapy
[05:50] <kevman> farruinn, third.
[05:50] <farruinn> kevman: sweet :)
[05:50] <kevman> propagandhi, nah, he just did it for fun. It was in the trash
[05:50] <_native_> kevman, where u at?
[05:50] <propagandhi> kevman: ok, in that case...
[05:50] <_native_> location
[05:50] <kevman> _native_, school
[05:51] <_native_> country?
[05:51] <kevman> USA
[05:51] <_native_> woohoo!
[05:51] <_native_> me too
[05:51] <kevman> PA
[05:51] <_native_> just to let ya know DOWN WITH BUSH!
[05:52] <_native_> :-0
[05:52] <_native_> :-/
[05:52] <_native_> sorry bout the yell
[05:54] <_native_> i heard a cricket fart.
[05:54] <_native_> chirp..chrip...
[05:54] <mustard5> CaNsA, what type of modem?
[05:55] <CaNsA> speedtouch 330 usb
[05:55] <mustard5> CaNsA, ah ok usb modem...I've seen a few people have trouble with them
[05:55] <mustard5> CaNsA, is that an adsl modem?
[05:55] <CaNsA> i think i 4got to do 1 thing
[05:55] <CaNsA> yeah adsl
[05:55] <CaNsA> 1 sec
[05:55] <mustard5> k
[05:56] <mustard5> CaNsA, I'm not sure how to fix it though....I might search around the wiki and forums to see what is around
[05:57] <agt> Is there a way to test if my fstab works without rebooting :/ ?
[05:58] <mustard5> agt, yes
[05:58] <_native_> you can try to remount but that is not for sure.
[05:58] <kevman> agt, mount mountpoint
[05:58] <farruinn> agt: test as in see if a partitions is mounted automatically when you start?
[05:58] <agt> farruinn,  yes
[05:58] <farruinn> agt: 'sudo shutdown -F now' then ctrl-d (or something like that) will allow you to boot up faster
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to create a device?  (I'm still trying to get configure-thinkpad to work.)
[05:59] <farruinn> hm, that's not explained well, but shutdown -F now will be faster than doing reboot from the logout dialog
[05:59] <CaNsA> mustard5, ill brb im gonna seee if this modem works on the ubuntu machine
[06:00] <agt> farruinn, i understand :) thx all
[06:00] <_native_> tonyyarusso, im not sure about this but you could read the  manual for MKDEV.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> _native_: I'll check that.  There are supposedly tools that do it, but they're not working.
[06:01] <_native_> *manual for MAKEDEV.
[06:01] <mustard5> doh..I just found the speedtouch threads in the forum tooo
[06:01] <_native_> ive never had to create a device in ubuntu though
[06:01] <_native_> only slackware
[06:02] <_native_> tonyyarusso, read man hotplug, man udev, and the see also stuff.
[06:02] <_native_> as well
[06:02] <Calren> Hi all, I'm new to linux. Could someone walk me through setting up a wireless card using the realtek 8180 chipset? The forums are a bit overwhelming
[06:03] <_native_> gosh if people would just by linux friendly hardware. :-)  j k
[06:04] <_native_> i wish vendors would get with the program
[06:04] <Calren> hey, I got the card free with the laptop, free = good :P
[06:05] <cdubya> I had enabled dma on the cd/dvd combo drive on this laptop last night, but it apparently wasn't a permanent solution as a restart brought the system back to choppy dvd playback. How do I set this up so that every time I boot the cd/dvd will have dma enabled so that the dvd's will play right?
[06:05] <_native_> i was just playin
[06:05] <tritium> _native_, this is not a political forum
[06:06] <mkyb14> after installing the legacy drivers for my old riva tnt 16mb card the nvidia screen spashes.... but my resolution settings won't change from 640x480.... it used to before i upgraded to breezy.  anyone have a solution?
[06:06] <_native_> tritium, little late are we.
[06:06] <tritium> _native_, doesn't matter
[06:06] <mustard5> cdubya, what method did you use to enable DMA the first time?
[06:06] <cdubya> hdparm, but I don't exactly remember the two commands......
[06:06] <pepsi_> mkyb14, did you do `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`?
[06:07] <mustard5> Calren, you seen the wiki guides (as opposed to the forum guides)?
[06:07] <mkyb14> negative, never had to do that before... is that the command?
[06:07] <mustard5> cdubya, k..one second, I will find something for you
[06:07] <cdubya> mustard5, cool, thanks
[06:07] <Calren> not yet, have spent the last hour trying to make sense from the forums. right now I don't even know exactly which vendor this card is from
[06:07] <mustard5> cdubya, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[06:08] <cdubya> pepsi_, I thought for some reason that I read that method breaks stuff with x.org.....but I may be off my rocker....
[06:08] <cdubya> :)
[06:08] <mustard5> cdubya, in this guide you edit a file somewhere, I assume that makes it permanent
[06:08] <mkyb14> ahh i don't want to break it again...
[06:08] <pepsi_> cdubya, ?!
[06:08] <pepsi_> thast hwo ive always done it in ubuntu
[06:08] <cdubya> err, maybe I'm confused.
[06:08] <pepsi_> works fine
[06:08] <pepsi_> screw editing the file :P
[06:08] <cdubya> maybe I'm thinking of manually editing the file....:-P
[06:08] <pepsi_> it makes it for you
[06:08] <cdubya> heh
[06:09] <mustard5> ubotu:tell Calren about wifi
[06:09] <cdubya> now that I think about it, you're right....
[06:09] <Nihil> bjv, i'm here
[06:09] <n0odl3> i just made a file and im trying to run it using ./*filename
[06:09] <n0odl3> however there are several option such as -h
[06:09] <n0odl3> how do i run those options?
[06:09] <mkyb14> oh.... ok with the xorg thing... the card is made by nvidia, but is a  riva tnt
[06:09] <bjv> Nihil: alright, well i guess do a    fsck -N /dev/hdb1
[06:10] <Nihil> ok, i will do it in a second
[06:10] <bjv> Nihil: it will say something like:
[06:10] <bjv> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:10] <bjv> [/sbin/fsck.vfat (1) -- /mnt/data]  fsck.vfat -f /dev/hda5
[06:10] <mustard5> Calren, ah ok..that might be something you need to know
[06:10] <amonkey> how can i restrict access to a particular domain? i told the domain to resolve to <IP_ADDRESS> in hosts, but that didn't seem to do anything.
[06:11] <Nihil> nihil@Olidata:~$ fsck -N /dev/hdb1
[06:11] <Nihil> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[06:11] <Nihil> fsck: fsck.ntfs: non trovato
[06:11] <Nihil> fsck: Errore 2 eseguendo fsck. ntfs per /dev/hdb1
[06:11] <Nihil> nihil@Olidata:~$
[06:11] <tritium> Nihil, please don't paste
[06:11] <Nihil> tritium, excuse me
[06:11] <bjv> tritium: sorry
[06:11] <mustard5> Calren, did you get the PM from ubotu about wifi?
[06:11] <Calren> yep, reading it now
[06:11] <rellik> is there any reason to update my old ubuntu to the new version?
[06:11] <bjv> Nihil: ok, so it said error 2
[06:11] <CaNsA> mustard5... dude what does this mean --- usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found!
[06:11] <farruinn> anyone know why my iPod would stop automatically mounting when I plug it in?
[06:11] <bjv> Nihil: man fsck    to see what that means. :|
[06:11] <tritium> bjv, no problem, thanks for helping people out
[06:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> DOES anyone know of any linux tools that will allow me to use google like a file system without having to email the file to myself?
[06:11] <kleaer> anyone?
[06:12] <rellik> how do I delete a file that begins with the chars "-1" ?
[06:12] <bjv> tritium: fsck error 2's mean "system should be rebooted?"
[06:12] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: ask uncle google about gmailfs
[06:12] <farruinn> rellik: rm \-1etc maybe
[06:12] <_native_> ignorance is bliss, and murder.
[06:12] <rellik> farruinn, nope :(
[06:12] <tritium> bjv, I don't know for sure.  best to check
[06:13] <mustard5> CaNsA, I am only guessing but I think it means you need your firmware updated....I don't use wifi though..so take that with a grain of salt :)
[06:13] <wangjinyu> hao duo ren a
[06:13] <CaNsA> i dont use wifi
[06:13] <bjv> tritium: well that's what the man page says.       im just trying to understand what that means.
[06:13] <mustard5> CaNsA, woops wrong person
[06:13] <wangjinyu>
[06:13] <CaNsA> lol
[06:13] <mustard5> CaNsA, sorry I thought you were Calren
[06:13] <tritium> bjv, I'll check the manpage
[06:13] <_native_> swee
[06:13] <_native_> *sweet
[06:13] <CaNsA> for the right price i can be
[06:14] <mustard5> CaNsA, haha
[06:14] <Nihil> i didn't found anything about error 2, bjv
[06:14] <daaku> anyone got tips on running a diagnostics on a new system to make sure everything is working right?
[06:14] <mustard5> ok CaNsA I have found a number of threads in the forum discussing speedtouch usb modems
[06:14] <CaNsA> u wanna pm the to me
[06:14] <_native_> daaku, use it thats the best test.
[06:14] <_native_> ;-]
[06:14] <CaNsA> save spamming the channel
[06:14] <tritium> bjv, yes, you're right
[06:14] <mustard5> CaNsA, I could realy them to you, but might be easier for you to run the search function and browse through them yourself
[06:15] <CaNsA> jammin
[06:15] <kleaer> i recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner
[06:15] <bjv> tritium: yes but what does that mean for Nihil?
[06:15] <CaNsA> u got an url?
[06:15] <amonkey> how can i get hosts to override ns lookups?
[06:15] <bjv> tritium: the drive in question was hooked to a USB enclosure, got an error, and was unplugged.
[06:15] <CaNsA> im currently looking at http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php%3Fpid%3D43338&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522usb%2B1-2:%2Bno%2Bstage%2B1%2Bfirmware%2Bfound!%2522%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DKvD%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official_s%26sa%3DG
[06:15] <Calren> mustard5: well, since it says no wireless extensions on both devices, I'm following the ndiswrapper how-to like the wifi page says to
[06:15] <daaku> _native_: good one. just wanna make sure i return whatever i have to before the return period expires :)
[06:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> holy cow.
[06:15] <mustard5> CaNsA, this is one thread...but there is a HOW TO for hoary..but I think in breezy you need to change stuff http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76529&highlight=usb+modem+speedtouch
[06:15] <tritium> bjv, sorry, I've not followed your conversation
[06:16] <bjv> tritium: yeah.
[06:16] <CaNsA> cheers matey
[06:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> gmailfs will act as a filesystem that i can mount in linux?
[06:16] <mustard5> Calren, thats sounds like the right direction
[06:16] <wangjinyu> where are you from
[06:16] <mustard5> CaNsA, I used these keywords for search 'usb modem speedtouch' it gets good results
[06:16] <_native_> daaku, what hardware are you worried about?
[06:16] <kleaer> anyone?
[06:17] <wangjinyu> displaycard
[06:17] <bjv> Nihil: a   sudo fsck /dev/hdb1      would probably fix your drive.
[06:17] <Nihil> no
[06:17] <daaku> _native_: all of it - just built it
[06:17] <Nihil> error not fixed
[06:17] <n0odl3> does the option hafve to be piped?>
[06:17] <bjv> Nihil: you did it without the -N ?
[06:17] <mustard5> Nihil, is /dev/hdb1 unmounted?
[06:18] <kleaer> i recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner
[06:18] <Nihil> can anyone kick my ghost nick Nihil85?
[06:18] <bobbyd> _native_, not from the command line...
[06:18] <bjv> mustard5: lol, is that what it means by "2 - System should be rebooted" ?
[06:18] <mustard5> Nihil, I"m late to this conversation so ignore me if I am going over old ground
[06:18] <mkyb14> sweet thanks PEPSI for the help
[06:18] <cdubya> mustard5, thanks for the link. Setup /etc/hdparm.conf, rebooted, and it worked wonderfully. Thanks.
[06:18] <Madpilot> Nihil: you can ghost yourself...
[06:18] <daaku> anyone know about performance tuning a fakeRAID system?
[06:19] <_native_> daaku, huh what?
[06:19] <mustard5> bjv, I'm pretty sure you need to unmount the drive for fsck to fix it..so a live CD would be useful
[06:19] <Nihil> Madpilot, how ca i do this?
[06:19] <mustard5> cdubya, np ;)
[06:19] <daaku> _native_: didnt come up with the name :p
[06:19] <bjv> mustard5: yeah. he is working off a 2nd drive.
[06:19] <_native_> daaku, did i miss somthing
[06:19] <Nihil> mustard5, it's a matter of broken HD, maybe
[06:19] <rellik> what program do you use to view images?
[06:19] <Nihil> bjv, i didn't use the -N
[06:19] <daaku> _native_: its RAID using dmraid, the cheap raid on the newer mb's
[06:19] <mustard5> bjv, ah ok..well just confirm its umounted then I suppose
[06:20] <farruinn> if anyone can help me mount my iPod so I can reproduce this crash I would be grateful
[06:20] <mustard5> Nihil, hopefully not :)
[06:20] <daaku> _native_: the howto on the wiki calls it that
[06:20] <Madpilot> Nihil: /msg nickserv help
[06:20] <bjv> Nihil: yeah, he thinks that the error 2 is trying to tell you to unmount the partition.
[06:20] <mustard5> farruinn, I have no idea about ipods unfortunately :)
[06:20] <bjv> Nihil: and i suppose i didnt actually tell you to umount it before fsck. :P
[06:21] <_native_> daaku, check out bonnie.
[06:21] <farruinn> mustard5: it used to just mount automagically, don't know why it's not now
[06:21] <mustard5> farruinn, how do they connect? usb?
[06:21] <farruinn> mustard5: this one is firewire
[06:22] <farruinn> I'm not sure what really goes on when it connects because there's no fstab entry or anything
[06:22] <kleaer> i recently downloaded ubuntu and the files are on a different partition.. is it possible to boot from that partition to install ubuntu onto a linux partition? i dont have a cd burner
[06:22] <_native_> daaku, i dont know i just run my systems hard and long, and if they dont crash its good or me.
[06:22] <Nihil> bjv, what should i do now?
[06:22] <mustard5> farruinn, yeah..I have no idea how they work soz :)
[06:22] <mustard5> Nihil I would unmount and run fsck again
[06:23] <Nihil> unmount?
[06:23] <Nihil> why?
[06:23] <farruinn> you can't fsck a mounted partitoin
[06:23] <mustard5> Nihil because you can't fsck a mounted partition
[06:24] <mustard5> Nihil, therefore it would seem the appropriate action is to umount the drive and then direct fsck to check that drive
[06:25] <Nihil85> but i mounted it a moment ago
[06:25] <Nihil85> it was inside in a HD box, mustard5
[06:25] <mustard5> Nihil85, so your problem is fixed now?
[06:25] <drummer> Anyone know of a way to find out what version of gcc was used to compile the Ubuntu kernel?
[06:25] <Nihil85> nomed, it's not fixed
[06:25] <mustard5> Nihil85, I'm not talking about taking it out of the box
[06:25] <Nihil85> bjv, are you here?
[06:26] <Agrajag> drummer: cat /proc/version
[06:26] <Agrajag> (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8))
[06:26] <drummer> Agrajag: thanks !
[06:26] <Agrajag> drummer: if you install gcc-3.4 you'll have that same version
[06:26] <theine> Wow, I just noticed that xfwm4 works extremely well as a replacement for metacity
[06:27] <Nihil85> bjv, are you here?
[06:27] <Agrajag> you'll have to set $CC to point to the right gcc version to build modules and so on
[06:27] <bjv> Nihil85: yeah, just hit it with a   sudo umount -l /dev/hdb1   or whatever
[06:27] <iceman> so, have they started work on the next release of ubuntu...
[06:27] <bjv> Nihil85: and once it is unmounted       sudo fsck /dev/hdb1
[06:28] <tritium> iceman, http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[06:28] <bjv> Nihil85: do it with  -N   the 1st time though
[06:28] <Nihil85> jbv, i'm in private
[06:29] <bjv> gottcha.
[06:29] <Nihil85> jbv, i'm in private with you!
[06:30] <drummer> Agrajag:  I've been having a problem installing VMWare.  Keeps telling me that there is a compiler mismatch.
[06:30] <nauseaboy> has anyone been playing much with enlightenment?
[06:30] <Calren> mustard5: no matter how I try it, typing the same case or all lower/upper, I keep getting "cp: cannot stat '/home/calren/wifi/NET8180.INF': No such file or directory
[06:31] <Agrajag> drummer: that's what I did, installed gcc-3.4 and changed $CC to point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[06:31] <mustard5> Calren, and the file does exist in that directory?
[06:31] <Agrajag> oh, you'll need the kernel headers package too
[06:31] <drummer> Agrajag: the cat /proc/version > 3.3.5 but synaptic shows only 3.3, 3.4 and 4
[06:31] <daaku> ok, made a stupid mistake. how do i go to single user mode in grub (guess it doesnt work like lilo)
[06:31] <Calren> mustard5:: yes, but it's Home and Calren, could the directory case be doing it?
[06:31] <Agrajag> just get 3.4, it'll work, I install vmware 5 just last week
[06:31] <Agrajag> installed
[06:31] <drummer> Agrajag: ok I'll install 3.4 and set CC to that before I run the install.
[06:32] <Agrajag> that should do it
[06:32] <rellik> is there any way to browse a SMB network if you don't know the names of any SMB servers on that network?
[06:32] <tritium> daaku, you should have a recovery mode listed
[06:32] <drummer> Agrajag: thanks again.
[06:32] <Agrajag> no problem
[06:33] <daaku> tritium: figured out how to edit the kernel options
[06:33] <rellik> that is, a text-based SMB network browser..  don't think smbclient can browse if not given the name of a server
[06:33] <tritium> daaku, okay, but by default you also should have recovery mode choices in your menu
[06:33] <mustard5> Calren, it is case sensitive yes
[06:33] <heero1711> Hello, everybody
[06:33] <rellik> nm..  smbtree does it
[06:33] <daaku> tritium: yea, saw that, wasnt sure if that would work
[06:34] <Calren> mustard5:: okay, / before home or no?
[06:34] <daaku> tritium: what does that do exactly? same thing - single user mode?
[06:34] <tritium> daaku, yes, it is single user mode
[06:34] <mustard5> Calren, have you used the autocomplete feature with <TAB> key before?
[06:34] <Calren> nope
[06:34] <heero1711> :S my Keyboard dont works in X, .. any idea, i had update it, from Hoary to Breezy
[06:34] <daaku> tritium: cool
[06:34] <heero1711> Maybe i need change something in xorg.conf ?
[06:34] <Calren> all typing for an hour, haha
[06:35] <mustard5> Calren, type cd /h<then hit TAB key>
[06:35] <mshade> heero1711: if the Driver line has "keyboard" change it to "kbd"
[06:35] <heero1711> oh, thanks i will look, that. =)
[06:35] <mustard5> Calren, if you hit <TAB> twice it will list all available options
[06:35] <mshade> heero1711: but normally X will error out if that's the case, rather than starting up without keyboard support
[06:35] <Calren> mustard5:: root@fenrir:/home#
[06:36] <mustard5> Calren, I may be explaining this badly :)
[06:36] <heero1711> mm i have another question, why xorgconfig not are in /usr/X11R6/bin ? .. is normal ?
[06:36] <Calren> mustard5:: that's fine, you're at least trying :)
[06:37] <mshade> heero1711: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:37] <mustard5> lets check it one step at a time, Calre
[06:37] <mustard5> cd /home/
[06:38] <mustard5> Calren, cd /home/   then cd /Calren/ mabye
[06:38] <Calren> no such file/dir, yet I can look at file broswer and see it
[06:38] <heero1711> xD thanks, let me try .. i will back
[06:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> how does one set the user and group of a mount?
[06:38] <mshade> mustard5: leave off the leading / on Calren/
[06:38] <mshade> cd /home/Calren should work
[06:39] <mustard5> Calren, what mshade said :)
[06:39] <mshade> if /home/Calren exists...
[06:39] <mustard5> cd /home/Calren/wifi/ is our goal mshade :)
[06:39] <Calren> using cd calren/ has now placed me with this: root@fenrir:~#
[06:39] <FlannelKing> Anyone know anything about Enterprise Volume Management Services? or what device dm-7 might be? or how to fix my error with it?
[06:39] <mustard5> mshade he has an inf file in there for his ndiswrapper mshade
[06:40] <mshade> Calren: pwd shoudl now return "/home/calren/'
[06:40] <GURT> how do i remove Gnome themes that i've installed via the theme prefrences?
[06:40] <mshade> Calren: pwd will always return your 'present working directory'
[06:40] <Calren> mshade:: yep, so far so good
[06:40] <mshade> Calren: now 'ls' will show you the contents of your 'pwd'
[06:40] <mustard5> Calren, you can always type ls to confirm what the directory names inside are
[06:41] <mustard5> mshade, your mind seems to be working with more clarity than mine atm :)
[06:41] <Calren> ls returns Calren and Desktop
[06:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> has anyone here gotten gmailfs to work?
[06:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> im' getting a login failure
[06:41] <Calren> weird since I should be in Calren
[06:41] <mshade> Calren: you probably inadverantly created another directory named calren
[06:41] <mshade> Calren: so now you've got /home/calren/Calren
[06:42] <mshade> Calren: try 'cd Calren/wifi
[06:42] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, did you already build the fuse modules?
[06:42] <Calren> mshade:: probably
[06:42] <dooglus> bur[n] er: yesterday you asked "Anyone know of an 'eyedropper' tool for gnome that will give me Hex & RGB of any pixel on my screen?".  I found an answer: "grabc is simple but useful program to determine the colour string in hex (or in RGB components) by clicking on a pixel on the screen"
[06:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium fuse modules?
[06:42] <nalioth> tritium fuse modules? is there a timer with that?
[06:42] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, read the output of "apt-cache show gmailfs"
[06:42] <nemik> hello is there any way from a shell to make a pop-u window message to a box i connected to via SSH?
[06:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> didn't see anything about that in the readme
[06:42] <tritium> nalioth, yep :)
[06:42] <Calren> mshade and mustard5:: woot, home/calren/Calren/wifi :D
[06:43] <mshade> bingo
[06:43] <mustard5> Calren, ok your off and running again ;)
[06:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> fuse-utils is already the newest version.
[06:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> that?
[06:43] <dooglus> nemik: can you connect to the X server on the remote machine?
[06:43] <fatehaze> Hi guys
[06:43] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, nope
[06:43] <Calren> mustard5:: out the INF is installed right now :D
[06:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> what am i looking for?
[06:44] <mshade> Calren: what wifi card is it, by the way
[06:44] <nemik> dooglus, not sure, i just SSH'd into it. i'm doing it from Putty on a....sigh....XP box
[06:44] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, read the output of "apt-cache show gmailfs"
[06:44] <fatehaze> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu for the first time on an old Mac iBook g3 clamshell
[06:44] <fatehaze> What kind of hardware support can I expect?
[06:44] <fatehaze> Specifically, network-wise?
[06:44] <dooglus> nemik: what happens if you "DISPLAY=:0 xclock" for example?
[06:44] <Calren> mshade:: not a clue which exactly, but it apepars to be running the RealTek 8180 chipset, since that's what it wanted under windows
[06:45] <nemik> dooglus, just put that in bash? ok i'll try...
[06:45] <bjv> wtf, this guy i was helping cant fsck his machine.
[06:45] <bjv> his sudo suddenly stopped working.
[06:45] <Calren> mshade:: device manger lists it as "RTL8180L 802.11b MAC"
[06:45] <dooglus> nemik: copy it exactly, yes
[06:45] <mshade> Calren: try lspci |grep -i eth
[06:45] <mshade> Calren: or lspci|grep -i net
[06:45] <mshade> should output what ya got
[06:45] <dooglus> nemik: it should show a clock on the remote display if you're lucky
[06:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium what am i looking for?
[06:45] <nemik> dooglus, Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:45] <nemik> so i guess not
[06:46] <bjv>    anyone familiar with this sudo error?
[06:46] <bjv> nihil@Olidata:~$ sudo fsck.vfat /dev/hdb1
[06:46] <bjv> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 2005
[06:46] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, you need to build kernel modules, as the info tells you
[06:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> i built it.
[06:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> just now
[06:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> now what? depmod -a?
[06:46] <Calren> mshade:: ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconduction Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev20)
[06:47] <mustard5> bjv, the date of the files does not match the date of the system clock I imagine...have you changed the system clock time or was it set wrong at some stage?
[06:47] <mshade> Calren: thereya go :)
[06:47] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/fuse-source.  I've not used it
[06:47] <dooglus> nemik: right.  you'll have to ask the remote X server to let you connect then.
[06:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium FATAL: Error inserting fuse (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686-smp/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium i mean generically when building a new module.
[06:47] <bjv> mustard5: i dont think Nihil85 changed the clock while i was helping him..
[06:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> what is the command to avaid rebooting?  i thought it was sudo depmod -a
[06:47] <fatehaze> Is installing linux on a Mac even a common thing?
[06:47] <Nihil85> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 2005
[06:48] <mustard5> bjv, I think it occurs when the file is dated as being in the future or something
[06:48] <tritium> fatehaze, yes, it is
[06:48] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, right
[06:48] <fatehaze> Common enough that I can expect decent hardware support?
[06:48] <tritium> yes
[06:48] <nemik> dooglus, how would i do that? nm, i gotta learn. i'll read a bit about it; anything in particular i should see?
[06:48] <bjv> mustard5: so how does Nihil85 get his files back into the present?
[06:48] <daaku> ok, not sure what to make of this: sensors has 2 alarms: for -12V (@-2.69) & -5V (@-2.49) - how bad is this?
[06:48] <Calren> mshade:: iwconfig still doesn't show a wlan
[06:48] <fatehaze> I'm mainly worried about the airport and display
[06:48] <mshade> Calren: ndiswrapper -l
[06:48] <mustard5> bjv I think you can 'touch' them somehow..I don't know how :)
[06:48] <mshade> Calren: does it say driver and hardware present?
[06:49] <Calren> yep
[06:49] <mustard5> bjv read manual for touch maybe?  man touch
[06:49] <mshade> Calren: modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:49] <Madpilot> daaku: it could mean that your PSU is screwing up, and sending the wrong voltages to your hardware - which would be very bad for that hardware...
[06:49] <mshade> if you haven't already
[06:49] <daaku> fatehaze: i've got breezy on my powerbook, and other than the wireless, everything (*everything*) works perfect
[06:49] <bird> can anyone help me with xfire for gaim???
[06:49] <Calren> mshade:: done
[06:50] <fatehaze> Really?  Wireless, though... I really need my wireless
[06:50] <benplaut> bird: what's xfire?
[06:50] <mshade> Calren: iwconfig
[06:50] <Calren> mshade:: there it is! :D
[06:50] <happyIRC>   <IRC>
[06:50] <bird> benplaut its a protacal and i need help with the plugin
[06:51] <bird> benplaut it says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it
[06:51] <bird> it says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it
[06:51] <bird> can anyone help me with xfire for gaim???
[06:51] <daaku> Madpilot: ah, not good. any ideas if could it be a issue with how i set it up? or hardware defect?
[06:51] <Calren> mshade:: now moving on to connecting to my wlan, which is encrypted. Thanks for you help so far, yours as well mustard5
[06:52] <mustard5> Calren, np :)
[06:52] <mshade> Calren: you have the key handy?
[06:52] <daaku> fatehaze: no support, gotta bug broadcom for that. iirc, some project on sf is trying to reverse engineer the chipset
[06:52] <mshade> Calren: are you in X on ubuntu?
[06:52] <Calren> mshade:: off the top of my head, yes
[06:52] <Calren> mshade:: what's X?
[06:52] <fatehaze> Curses
[06:53] <daaku> fatehaze: but considering that keyboard backlights, automatic brightness control, suspend and everything else works, i'm not complaining
[06:53] <mshade> Calren: i just meant, are you using the graphical system (gnome) on ubuntu right now
[06:53] <fatehaze> True, and neither would I, but I work night audit in a hotel with only wireless :P
[06:53] <Madpilot> daaku: I'm not sure what it means - ask around some of the hardware/modding sites, maybe?
[06:53] <Calren> mshade:: seeing as I have icons and whatnot ont he top, I'm going to say gnome with a terminal
[06:53] <mshade> Calren: at the top.. go to System > administration > networking
[06:53] <mshade> Calren: choose the wireless device (which should now show up), and you can set your encryption settings there
[06:53] <Calren> desire21
[06:54] <Calren> crap, haha
[06:54] <cge> fatehaze: I have a white Ibook 600Mhz and the wireless works.
[06:54] <Calren> maybe having the lap and this baord on the same table is bad? :D
[06:54] <fatehaze> Oh really?
[06:54] <daaku> Madpilot: will do. thanks
[06:54] <heero1711> :S
[06:55] <mshade> Calren: heh i've done that before
[06:55] <cge> fatehaze: yes - it was working in hoary, if I recall correctly.
[06:55] <daaku> fatehaze: yup. linux hw support has come a long way :)
[06:55] <fatehaze> Fabulous :D
[06:55] <heero1711> dont works my keyboard, only some keys, i has try with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and nothing :(
[06:55] <fatehaze> Linux is the best reason to have old-ass hardware
[06:55] <heero1711> any idea?
[06:55] <cge> fatehaze: Some things didn't work quite right - iwlist scan didn't work.
[06:55] <Calren> mshade:: okay, in the properties, got the ESS entered and putting in wep
[06:56] <fatehaze> Well, the live cd just finished, I'm gonna give it a shot
[06:56] <fatehaze> Thanks for the help guys!
[06:56] <cge> fatehaze: Ok
[06:56] <Calren> mshade:: if I got it right, how long should it take to active the interface?
[06:57] <heero1711> :S
[06:57] <mshade> Calren: really shouldn't take too long, but iv'e seen it take a little while.
[06:57] <bird> it says there is a plugin folder for gaim but i cant find it
[06:57] <bird> can anyone help me with xfire for gaim???
[06:57] <Calren> mshade:: "The interface wlan0 is active"
[06:57] <mshade> Calren: ping www.google.com
[06:57] <mshade> Calren: from your terminal
[06:58] <i3dmaster> I installed a new sound card, but can get it to work. help
[06:58] <mustard5> Calren, thats a literal command too  'ping www.google.com'
[06:58] <Calren> mshade:: unknown host
[06:58] <mshade> Calren: no dice :|
[06:58] <mshade> Calren: iwconfig should show the key you entered, check it again
[06:58] <mustard5> mshade, dns issue?
[06:59] <mshade> Calren: does ifconfig show an ip for wlan0?
[06:59] <mshade> mustard5: if he has an IP address dynamically assigned to him then yes, it's probably a dns issue.  if no IP is assigned, probably still a driver issue.
[06:59] <Calren> mshade:: k, something's not right, there 20 digits in the key area, and no
[06:59] <mustard5> mshade, I'm trying to take all this in for the future :)
[06:59] <mshade> Calren: you need the actual hex key taken from the router
[07:00] <mshade> Calren: a passphrase doesn't work yet, i don't think, with ndiswrapper
[07:00] <Calren> I'm looking at the wireless security tab for my Linksys router
[07:00] <bjv> ha! nihil85 has a problem..
[07:01] <bjv> "nihil@Olidata:~$ touch /usr/bin/sudo
[07:01] <bjv> touch: cannot touch `/usr/bin/sudo': Permission denied"
[07:01] <bjv> "nihil@Olidata:~$ sudo touch /usr/bin/sudo
[07:01] <bjv> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  4 07:35:48 2005"          :P
[07:01] <mshade> Calren: when you put in the key, did you use hex or the passphrase?
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> bjv, why you need to touch sudo ?
[07:01] <mustard5> bjv..hehe circular :)
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> i say its recursive
[07:02] <bjv> Nihil  cant fsck the drive im helping him fix
[07:02] <bjv> the error is "DATE IN TEH FUTZOR"
[07:02] <Calren> mshade:: I entered key 1, however in Ubuntu I left it on ASCII, which I bet was a Very Bad Thing
[07:02] <bjv> i guess he is just going to reboot.
[07:02] <Calren> iwconfig
[07:02] <Calren> err
[07:02] <mshade> Calren: heh
[07:02] <bjv> strange that sudo would suddenly stop working because of a time conflict
[07:02] <bjv> at like 4:00 in the afternoon
[07:03] <heero1711> hello, i has change keyboard for KBD, but my keyboard still dont works, any idea_
[07:03] <heero1711> ? .. only works some keys :S
[07:03] <Calren> mshade:: okay, now the encryption key is right, just weird that is has dashes in it. meh, oh well
[07:03] <Calren> mshade:: ping works tho
[07:03] <mshade> Calren: congrats, you're done.
[07:04] <mustard5> Calren, well done :)
[07:04] <mshade> :)
[07:04] <Calren> woooot!
[07:04] <Nihil85> bjv, i'm in privaste with you
[07:04] <Calren> mshade, mustard5, thank you both very much :D
[07:04] <Calren> mshade:: now how do I stop the pinging?
[07:04] <mshade> Calren: control-c in the terminal
[07:04] <Nihil85> ctrl+c
[07:05] <Nihil85> bjv
[07:06] <mustard5> Calren, you know where to find us when you next have a problem :)
[07:06] <Calren> mshade:: now, while you two are around, anything I can do about this godawful parchment color where white should be? :D
[07:06] <mustard5> Calren, whats that in?
[07:07] <mshade> Calren: poke around in system --- preferences
[07:07] <Calren> mustard5:: as an example, going to www.google.com I'm used to a white background, instead it's parchment, the same color as the menus
[07:07] <mustard5> Calren, ah in firefox?
[07:07] <Calren> mustard5:: yeah
[07:08] <mustard5> Calren, not too sure actually :)  I'm not a very fussy browser user it looks good to me :)
[07:08] <mustard5> Calren, I have heard  a lot of people say they don't like the look of firefox on ubuntu
[07:08] <nuxvomica> mustard5: there's always opera
[07:09] <mustard5> Calren, I guess its in the eye of the behoider :)
[07:09] <Calren> mustard5:: goodies, my fav browser is Teh Ugly :(
[07:09] <Calren> mustard5:: this beholder is going to see how far this whole "customize everything" thing will go :P
[07:09] <mshade> Calren: it has something to do with themes.  unfortunately, i've only been using gnome about a week now.  don't know a thing about how to change an indiviual parameter in this theme 'human'
[07:10] <mustard5> Calren, hehe...well try not to break to much straight away :D
[07:10] <all4n> hey, I have a folder full of images(fullsize, and thumbnails) here, and am trying to convert only the fullsize images ..  I tried using  a 'find -type f ' command, but don't know how to exclude files with the name 'thumb
[07:10] <all4n> ' in the filename.. any suggestions?
[07:11] <Calren> mustard5:: give me a sec guys, going to switch to xchat on the lap
[07:11] <mustard5> Calren I've seen some pretty amazing looking customisations in the forum
[07:11] <mustard5> Calren, k
[07:12] <alekz> hi, how can i control my microphone's volume ?
[07:12] <Calren> mshade, you said you saw some themes on the forums?
[07:12] <mustard5> alekz, double click on the master volume thing top right corner of your screen
[07:12] <mshade> Calren: nah, mustard did
[07:12] <mustard5> alekz, and go to the capture tab
[07:13] <mustard5> Calren, on the ubuntu forums there are lots of customisation threads
[07:13] <mustard5> Calren, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[07:13] <cansa_> what tells ubuntu where to look for firmware? and where does it look?
[07:14] <mshade> cansa_: it's in /usr/local/lib/hotplug/firmware
[07:14] <cansa_> ok, and what tells it to lok ther?
[07:14] <cansa_> there*
[07:15] <cansa_> look* ffs too much coffee and not enuff sleep
[07:15] <mustard5> Calren, this one was interesting to me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&highlight=gdesklets
[07:15] <mshade> cansa_: /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent tells it to look there
[07:15] <cansa_> ok
[07:15] <Calren> mustard5, k, checking it out, thanks
[07:16] <cansa_> so in theory, if i have edited the firmware.agent to look in /lib/hotplug/firmware for the firmware that i place there
[07:17] <mshade> cansa_: yup, then restart hotplug
[07:17] <cansa_> then the device that ubuntu needs the firmware for should work
[07:17] <coolkev> i look inside firewall firestarter and i see a bunch of active connection to bittorrent, but i've shut down bittorrent long ago, how do i get rid of thse active connection
[07:17] <mshade> cansa_: right.  or use the dir it already uses
[07:17] <alekz> anyone here uses skype ?
[07:17] <alekz> i cant listen or talk with my friends :S
[07:18] <cansa_> see ive done this but it still gives me a  usb 1-2: no stage 1 firmware found! error at me
[07:18] <mustard5> alekz, do you have other sound devices going at the same time?
[07:19] <mustard5> alekz, enter this in terminal ps -e | grep esd    and tell me what it says
[07:19] <alekz> mustard5, amarok and gaim, but i followed a guide to have sounds with all my apps
[07:19] <alekz> wait pls
[07:19] <mustard5> k
[07:19] <alekz> i use ALSA not esd
[07:19] <cansa_> mshade, any ideas?
[07:19] <mustard5> alekz, I don't think skype likes other sound devices
[07:20] <alekz> then i should set esd to use skype ?
[07:20] <mustard5> alekz, if you know how..I wouldnt have a clue :)
[07:21] <mustard5> alekz, for me I just shut down all other stuff when using skype
[07:21] <alekz> ok mustard5 i'll try it :)
[07:21] <alekz> thanks
[07:21] <mustard5> mp
[07:21] <mustard5> np
[07:22] <bobby> how does one set the dns so it doesn't die on reboot...ubuntu keeps losing the setting when I do it through the gui tool
[07:23] <PuGz> hey guys, i have installed fluxbox in breezy and it says foo in the gdm login manager instead of fluxbox, and then if i select foo, it doesnt start. is this a known bug? how do i fix it?
[07:23] <mustard5> you scared everyone off bobby ;)
[07:23] <bobby> yay :)
[07:23] <alekz> mustard5, i found something: Skype's audio device is /dev/dsp <--- is that right ?
[07:24] <PuGz> yes
[07:24] <rellik> bobby: dunno about the gui..  check out /etc/resolv.conf
[07:24] <mustard5> alekz,  I honestly have no clue :)
[07:24] <alekz> ok mustard5 thanks anyway :)
[07:24] <mustard5> alekz,  good luck
[07:24] <PuGz> anyone here use fluxbox?
[07:24] <alekz> ;)
[07:25] <holycow> ftp://ftp.oqo.com/unsupported/linux/  <-- wow
[07:25] <holycow> oqo.com doesn't support linux, but they certainly have debs up there
[07:26] <mustard5> PuGz, the silence is deafening :)
[07:26] <rellik> doesn't unsupported mean their tech support doesn't support it?
[07:26] <holycow> ftp://ftp.oqo.com/unsupported/linux/OQOLinux.html  <-- and of course comlementary html
[07:26] <holycow> rellik, correct
[07:27] <PuGz> mustard5: hehe
[07:27] <PuGz> mustard5: you use fluxbox?
[07:27] <mshade> PuGz: actually, i do.. but not on debian/ubuntu
[07:27] <mustard5> PuGz, nope
[07:27] <PuGz> mshade: cheers anyway
[07:27] <mshade> cheers :)
[07:27] <versatile> alright, I admit it I am complete noob to ubuntu. what is the best channel for questions?
[07:27] <joss> Kawabunga! The traditional KDE Control Center has been replaced with KDE System Settings. This change is not part of KDE, but is unique to Kubuntu. The new interface is cleaner, faster, simpler and comes with improved usability features such as quick search.
[07:28] <bur[n] er> PuGz: it shows up as "fluxbox" here
[07:28] <joss> has anyone tried that?
[07:28] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to use xgbnu?
[07:28] <holycow> http://flipstart.com/aboutproduct_features_sizeandpower.asp  <-- i want this of course when its out
[07:28] <joss> 5.10
[07:28] <mshade> versatile: probably this one :)
[07:28] <mustard5> versatile, you have arrived there:)
[07:28] <mshade> PuGz: did you have a question about flux, or just askin?
[07:28] <PuGz> bur[n] er: what you reckon, uninstall and reinstall
[07:28] <PuGz> mshade: my fluxbox shows up as "foo" in the gdm menu
[07:29] <mshade> :S
[07:29] <mshade> that's weird.
[07:29] <bur[n] er> PuGz: i assume you restarted gdm?
[07:29] <PuGz> yes
[07:29] <PuGz> hang on... it appears it wasnt installed!
[07:29] <PuGz> aptitude is installing it now
[07:29] <bur[n] er> lol
[07:29] <PuGz> what the hell!?
[07:29] <PuGz> i told aptitude to install it 2 days ago!
[07:30] <versatile> well here i go then.  I am trying to change xorg.conf file but it is read only.  I figured I need to log on as root but I don't see how?
[07:30] <bur[n] er> problem solved, crisis averted :)
[07:30] <PuGz> maybe it got half way and stuffed up and hence the foo?
[07:30] <all4n> hey, I have a folder full of images(fullsize, and thumbnails) here, and am trying to convert only the fullsize images ..  I tried using  a 'find -type f ' command, but don't know how to exclude files with the name 'thumb' in the filename..  any suggestions?
[07:30] <PuGz> bur[n] er: yep... cheers anyway
[07:30] <n0odl3> what is bz2?
[07:30] <mshade> bzip2
[07:30] <bur[n] er> bz2 == compressed file
[07:30] <PuGz> n0odl3: like a zip
[07:31] <nuxvomica> anyone has tried looking glass desktop?
[07:31] <mustard5> all4n, you might benefit from studying command line switches
[07:31] <mustard5> all4n, I have no idea myself
[07:31] <PuGz> nuxvomica: not me... looks interesting but too heavy
[07:31] <bur[n] er> says the uber-minimalist ;)
[07:32] <all4n> mustard5, I am studying find and grep, and piping..  but havent found an answer yet
[07:32] <cafuego> all4n: What are the filename masks? Just random?
[07:32] <PuGz> all4n: you want to do a find, but exclude things with thumb in the name?
[07:32] <all4n> cafuego, yeah..  I just want to exclude files that have 'thumb' in the filename
[07:32] <all4n> PuGz, yeah
[07:32] <nuxvomica> PuGz: looks cool. want to impress someone with it..
[07:32] <PuGz> ok
[07:32] <PuGz> let me try and find out
[07:32] <PuGz> i wann know that myself
[07:32] <cafuego> all4n: mkdir thumb; mv *thumb* thumb/; mycommand *; mv thumb/* .; rmdir thumb
[07:33] <all4n> cafuego, not very elegant  :p
[07:33] <wickedpuppy> awk or sed would be better ?
[07:33] <all4n> cafuego, and I am also searching in several subfolders
[07:33] <nuxvomica> all4n: find -name *thumb* (?)
[07:34] <cafuego> all4n: Are you using -exec for processing or piping via xargs?
[07:34] <nuxvomica> all4n: find . -name *thumb* (?)
[07:34] <cafuego> nuxvomica: Yes, those are the files he DOESN'T want.
[07:35] <cafuego> all4n: ?
[07:35] <all4n> okay, I know that I can pipe all the images I want to convert using just this command: 'find -type f | convert -resize blabla'
[07:35] <vbgunz> It it normal to have several of the same processes running/sleeping at once? I have 7 copies of "hald-addon-storage", 6 copies of "getty", 2 copies of "gdm", 3 copies of "usb-storage", and plenty of 2 copies of everything else... No other GDM sessions should be running and I am the only one logged in... Is this an issue? Should I just start killing processes? Is this normal?
[07:35] <versatile> Any tips on gaining root in ubuntu?
[07:35] <cafuego> all4n: Ok, then you can simply insert a "grep -v thumb |"
[07:35] <mshade> versatile: sudo bash
[07:35] <all4n> nuxvomica, that command just seemed to find all files with thumb
[07:35] <bjv> vbgunz: wtf, do you hibernate or something instead of shutting down?
[07:35] <mshade> versatile: sudo passwd root
[07:36] <mshade> versatile: to set a root password you can log into/ su to
[07:36] <vbgunz> bjv I never hibernated at all on this pc...
[07:36] <cafuego> a;SO it would be come 'find -type f | grep -v thumb | convert -resize blabla'
[07:36] <PuGz> all4n: from the grep manual... -v, --invert-match
[07:36] <PuGz>               Invert the sense of matching, to select non-matching lines.
[07:36] <bur[n] er> !tell versatile about sudo
[07:36] <nuxvomica> all4n: ok so *not* thumb... ok sorry
[07:36] <all4n> cafuego, trying now..  thangs  :)
[07:36] <mustard5> vbgunz, I think you will find they are forks from the original process
[07:36] <bjv> vbgunz: getty is normal.     afaik though you shouldnt have 2 gdm
[07:36] <vbgunz> bjv: Could it be when I step away and the PC relaxes overnight, it goes into hibernation?  Converst non-thumb files to resX by resY pixels.
[07:44] <all4n> cafuego, ooh, now thats nice
[07:44] <ubuntu> :)
[07:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone got gmailfs working?
[07:44] <bur[n] er> !tell luke_ about fat
[07:44] <benplaut> eek!
[07:44] <benplaut> nothing will open!
[07:44] <ubuntu> hi
[07:44] <nuxvomica> luke_: chmod u+r /mnt/sda4 ?
[07:44] <bur[n] er> luke_: check yer msgs
[07:44] <luke_> i understand that since its NTFS i cant write, but I want to be able to read
[07:44] <luke_> ty
[07:44] <cafuego> !ntfs
[07:44] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:44] <ubuntu> luke
[07:45] <all4n> cafuego, you know if its possible to convert to only say.. 800 by whatever?  (so to keep the aspect ratio)
[07:45] <mustard5> benplaut your sudo gone wacky?
[07:45] <bur[n] er> oops... i assumed fat, see that NTFS line ;)
[07:45] <ubuntu> there is package to download
[07:45] <cafuego> all4n: Moment...
[07:45] <ubuntu> to be able to write and read ntfs
[07:45] <benplaut> mustard5: no idea... nothing, period will open
[07:45] <n0odl3> ok...
[07:45] <alekz> anyone here has wengophone working ?
[07:45] <nuxvomica> all4n: are you using gimp?
[07:45] <GURT> why do poeple do things like this? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22538161/
[07:45] <benplaut> brb, restarting X
[07:45] <mustard5> benplaut, recovery mode and put the hostname back to what it was
[07:45] <luke_> which package?
[07:45] <all4n> nuxvomica, no, just the convert command in the terminal
[07:45] <n0odl3> how do i know if im missing any libraries or whatever when i compile a program from source?
[07:46] <cafuego> all4n: try 'convert -scale' (See manpage)
[07:46] <ubuntu> if you gimme a sec ill find out
[07:46] <ubuntu> I used it before
[07:46] <ubuntu> in a debian
[07:46] <ubuntu> sarge
[07:46] <all4n> cafuego, all righty. .thanks again
[07:46] <cafuego> all4n: I tend to write me own using php and libgd support :-)
[07:47] <luke_> ty
[07:47] <PuGz> n0odl3: you seem to have 3 unanswered questions
[07:47] <benplaut> mustard5: ctrl+alt+F1 is my friend... everything working again :D
[07:47] <luke_> thanks guys!
[07:47] <bur[n] er> all4n: the man page is pretty lame, but "convert --help" may shed some light... it doesn't say how to define the values passed to -scale though
[07:47] <all4n> cafuego, ah, hehe... well, I'm only doing this this one time, so just a quick command to fix it is good enough
[07:47] <mustard5> benplaut, hehe lucky break ;)
[07:47] <PuGz> n0odl3: ask me them again?
[07:47] <benplaut> yeah...
[07:47] <all4n> bur[n] er, I went to man imagemagick
[07:47] <vbgunz> bjv: I did "sudo kill -9 -1" and Ubuntu locked up...
[07:47] <cafuego> all4n: Just the find .... -exec ... will do then :-)
[07:48] <bur[n] er> n0odl3: ldconfig?
[07:48] <mustard5> benplaut I've had a few people come through with sudo not working because it cant find the hostname
[07:48] <all4n> bur[n] er, oops, yeah.. thats also lame
[07:48] <Calren> mustard5, quick question, can you recomment a music player?
[07:48] <bjv> vbgunz: im really tempted to believe that your system is fine.
[07:48] <benplaut> mustard5: heh, look at this: This will prevent you from launching new applications, and so you will have to log in again. Continue anyway?
[07:48] <all4n> cafuego, oh?  what is that -exec doing there?
[07:48] <mustard5> Calren, xmms or mplayer
[07:48] <vbgunz> bjv: It's running fine...
[07:48] <all4n> cafuego, can't I just pipe it with | ?
[07:48] <Calren> thanks
[07:48] <bjv> vbgunz: it may be a bit bloated with a handful of tasks, but getty and gdm and others are probably not that far out of line.
[07:48] <mustard5> Calren, xmms is easier to get started
[07:48] <cafuego> all4n: the -exec call runs the convert for you; {} is replaced with the filename.
[07:49] <vbgunz> bjv: i was just curious as I looked into gnome-system-monitor and saw extra processes and thought I ask about it
[07:49] <bjv> vbgunz: if it is running fine, then why not forget about how cluttered your ps -A is? lol
[07:49] <vbgunz> ps -A?
[07:49] <mustard5> Calren, if xmms locks up when playing mp3  killall xmms and change the output setting in preferences
[07:49] <bjv> vbgunz: oh, yeah. if your still in GUI then yeah. just leave it. :P
[07:49] <cafuego> all4n: the pipe will prolly work too, but keep in mind there's an upper limit to the amount of params to can pipe to the next commmand. -exec doesn't have that limit.
[07:49] <bur[n] er> ps -a == similar to gnome-system-monitor
[07:49] <all4n> cafuego, aha
[07:49] <vbgunz> I am not an ubergeek yet bro ;)
[07:49] <n0odl3> PuGz: here are the questions... number one how do i use an option when i run a program that i just compiled (i.e. ./xgnuboy)
[07:49] <bjv> vbgunz: give it time.   try ps -A    or     man ps      in the console :P
[07:49] <vbgunz> thanks bur[n] er!
[07:50] <cafuego> all4n: So you could still also run 'find . -type f | grep -v thumb | xargs convert -scale whatever
[07:50] <n0odl3> PuGz: number two how do i know if im missing if im missing any libraries or whatever when i compile a program from source?
[07:50] <vbgunz> ps -A is nice, thanks!
[07:50] <PuGz> n0odl3: ./foo --max-depth=0
[07:50] <PuGz> n0odl3: ./foo -v
[07:50] <PuGz> n0odl3: that sort of thing?
[07:50] <vbgunz> I can run that from Console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) correct?
[07:50] <n0odl3> PuGz: yes
[07:50] <PuGz> n0odl3: did you do a configure, make and make install
[07:50] <n0odl3> PuGz: like that
[07:51] <PuGz> n0odl3: so does that answer the question?
[07:51] <n0odl3> PuGz: yeah i did
[07:51] <mustard5> benplaut, all good now?
[07:51] <benplaut> everything works, now i have some homework to do :(
[07:51] <PuGz> n0odl3: or do you want to know how to find what options exist?
[07:51] <mustard5> benplaut, k
[07:51] <n0odl3> PuGz: whenever i run ./xgnuboy --help it gives me the list of options again
[07:51] <benplaut> there went my excuse :]
[07:51] <PuGz> n0odl3: so if it says the option is
[07:51] <PuGz> "-v"
[07:52] <PuGz> type ./xgnuboy -v
[07:52] <n0odl3> ok
[07:52] <n0odl3> let me try again
[07:52] <all4n> cafuego, I did not even know I needed the xargs there for piping   :p  anyhow, I'll just go with the -exec, hopefully it will do the trick as soon as I can figure out how to scale the way I want
[07:52] <budluva> can someone please send me in the right direction as to how to install drivers for my nvidia tnt2 (7174) drivers, the nvidia installer (.run) is doing nothing for me, apt-get install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy doesnt do anything either
[07:53] <vbgunz> Hey bjv, I really like the ps -A... How do I scroll up to see the contents when I Ctrl+Alt+F1? Currently, it scrolls direct to the bottom... Any advice?
[07:53] <cafuego> all4n: neet ;-)
[07:53] <n0odl3> PuGz: i see thank you
[07:53] <cafuego> budluva: Doesn't do anything? The command just exits and prints nothing?
[07:53] <all4n> cafuego, yah  :)
[07:53] <bjv> vbgunz: shift + pgup
[07:53] <vbgunz> bjv thanks, will try now
[07:54] <PuGz> n0odl3: no probs... is ur other question still needing answering?
[07:54] <basic_> im getting a loud beeping sound out of my left earphone
[07:54] <basic_> anyone had this problem?
[07:54] <basic_> its an intel ich5 onboard
[07:54] <PuGz> basic_: when are you getting it? what desktop environment?
[07:54] <basic_> kde
[07:54] <basic_> kubuntu
[07:54] <ubuntu> well
[07:55] <PuGz> basic_: and how often?
[07:55] <ubuntu> luke left
[07:55] <basic_> always
[07:55] <bjv> error dings in kde? and half broken earphones?
[07:55] <bjv> o_O
[07:55] <nemik> linux is so cool!!! ubuntu base install is the best thing ever. command-line with apt-get for convenience. i just learned a decent part of this OS from scratch
[07:55] <basic_> earphones work great, they're spendy ones
[07:55] <ubuntu> captive was the app to read and write intot NTFS form linux
[07:55] <mustard5> bjv nice guess :)
[07:55] <PuGz> nemik: nice
[07:55] <cafuego> budluva: 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)-nvidia-legacy; sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'
[07:55] <PuGz> basic_: have you checked out the sound system settings in kcontrol?
[07:55] <basic_> yeah, its none of that