[08:59] <CheshireViking> greig_, that makes two of us
[08:59] <Andeh> How do i change my desktop environment back to GNOME after installing KDE?
[09:00] <cappy> Andeh: when you boot up, at the login screen you get to pick your desktop environment in SESSIONS
[09:00] <PirateHead> greig_: That's okay. You'll catch on if you hang in there.
[09:00] <eck> AnxiousCo: windows gibberish
[09:00] <fooo> AnxiousCo: everything but the letters part
[09:00] <jc-denton> complaint
[09:00] <Andeh> Sessions?
[09:00] <ubuntu> using the live cd, how do i browse the drives in the computer ?
[09:00] <jc-denton> i installed manpages-dev
[09:00] <Andeh> ok
[09:00] <jc-denton> and man stdio works
[09:00] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Nothing, just asking now so maybe later on when I screw something up, I know what to do
[09:00] <jc-denton> man complex too
[09:00] <cappy> Andeh: It's a button
[09:00] <cyber_cop> I format Ubuntu sistem. nstall windows. Ubunntu not support
[09:00] <cyber_cop> bye channel
[09:00] <jc-denton> but man math not
[09:00] <jc-denton> i don't see why
[09:00] <eck> AnxiousCo: partitions are sort of like separating a disk into multiple disks
[09:00] <fooo> I installed manpages... but not installed the dep-yue-tee....
[09:00] <jc-denton> i guess a but, should be fixed
[09:00] <eck> AnxiousCo: both separate drives and separate partitions will have different drive letters in windows
[09:00] <PirateHead> ubuntu: you can use GParted if you like,
[09:00] <TheVault> BlueEagle: First thing I learned about linux is, for all newbs anyway, is create a backup of whatever file you edit, so later you can restore
[09:01] <ubuntu> PirateHead: and that will let me see the drives ?
[09:01] <MostKnown53> bootloader on usd flashdrive who knows how to do that
[09:01] <Andeh> What is the command to startup beryl?
[09:01] <Andeh> I want to add it to my startup scripts
[09:01] <BlueEagle> thevault: Well I keep a live-cd handy with the same kernel version as the system I run. That way I can boot off the live-cd, mount up the drives and chroot into the system to fix anything that needs fixing.
[09:01] <PirateHead> ubuntu: yes it will.
[09:01] <Section31> I so love the Beryl "beam up" animation for minimizing/maximizing apps.
[09:01] <Andeh> What is the command to start beryl?
[09:01] <peija-kas> beryl-manager
[09:01] <ubuntu> Andeh: beryl-manager
[09:01] <Andeh> Thanks
[09:01] <BlueEagle> !beryl
[09:01] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:02] <hateyla> i want to download some repos from seveas.ubuntu.nl its not free ?
[09:02] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Oh i see. Well I also used the LIVE CD to configure alotta the programs before I actually install them on my machine, pretty useful if ya ask me
[09:02] <eck> Andeh: if i see your question multiple times on the same screen, you're asking it too often
[09:02] <Seveas> !seveas > hateyla
[09:02] <BlueEagle> hateyla: I'm not sure if seveas still offers packages.
[09:02] <Seveas> BlueEagle, I do
[09:02] <DelTa_K> hi
[09:02] <Andeh> eck: you must have a giant monitor then :-)
[09:02] <BlueEagle> seveas: Oh. Good stuff. :)
[09:02] <BlueEagle> seveas: :)
[09:02] <someguy142> ...
[09:02] <hateyla> Seveas: want to download some repos from ur web can i download?
[09:02] <eck> Andeh: you waited for three people to enter things before repeating the question
[09:03] <someguy142> wth can't i join #python?
[09:03] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Thats how I got my wireless to work. Thats how I got Limewire to work and may other programs. So that way, I know what to do. See on the live cd, if I screw up something, a simple restart and try again and it works
[09:03] <Seveas> someguy142, they have a join limit
[09:03] <Andeh> eck: I knew it! I wish i had a huge plasma too
[09:03] <Andeh> Does anyone know where i might find premade beryl configuration files?
[09:03] <eck> haha
[09:03] <CheshireViking> greig_, looking at the instructions on that website, its mentions that it is setup to run when its based on 2.4.18 kernel, so if your ubuntu is using the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel like mine, maybe it won't work without having to use some different files
[09:03] <ubuntu> PirateHead: wheres the option to browse the disk ? i don't see it
[09:03] <AnxiousCo> "NTFS drives will be mounted read-only!" does this mean I will not be able to save to it?
[09:03] <BlueEagle> thevault: Yeah. It's a great way to cut your teeth. :)
[09:03] <fellacious> lol im using your #python slot
[09:03] <jim> why plasma?
[09:03] <fellacious> you have been trolled.  you have lost.
[09:03] <iAmTheDave> anyone ever attempt anything like this:
[09:03] <someguy142> well
[09:03] <Andeh> because otherwise my laptop would weigh 700 kilos
[09:03] <someguy142> seveas where could i get support than?
[09:03] <peija-kas> AnxiousCo yes by default Ubuntu cannot write to NTFS
[09:03] <iAmTheDave> http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[09:04] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Yeah I know. Problem being is that, I donno if I can install Beryl on the live cd
[09:04] <peija-kas> AnxiousCo you would need NTFS-3g driver to write to ntfs
[09:04] <TheVault> or can I?
[09:04] <greig_> CheshireViking : I see, how do i check my version?
[09:04] <BlueEagle> thevault: Short answer: You can't.
[09:04] <feniks> AnxiousCo: writing to ntfs doesnt work well.. normally people use fat32 for file exchange
[09:04] <peija-kas> AnxiousCo and its not perfect yet
[09:04] <Andeh> Will my current beryl install work on KDE too?
[09:04] <BlueEagle> thevault: Long answer: You can, but you don't want to.
[09:04] <OuZo> hi, all
[09:04] <xtknight> BlueEagle, TheVault: it's not really any harder than doing it normally
[09:04] <Andeh> hello
[09:04] <TheVault> BlueEagle: Yeah, laggy and all
[09:04] <greig_> CheshireViking: as i just dont what u instructed and i got errors, so perhap u are correct
[09:04] <toulouse> #xubuntu
[09:04] <toulouse> whoops
[09:04] <CheshireViking> greig_, type uname -r in terminal
[09:04] <peija-kas> feniks NTFS-3g is perfectly usable...its only missing some special things...but its still not recommended for writing to any real important drives imho
[09:05] <OuZo> i am trying to use gobby & i get this error... Howl initialisation failed. Probably you need to run mDNSResponder as root prior to Gobby. Zeroconf support is deactivated for this session.. how can i fix this thanks
[09:05] <TheVault> xtknight: Well honestly, I'm not sure what I would use Beryl for. I love the Expose effects, so that would be the only reason.
[09:05] <peija-kas> !ntfs-3g
[09:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:05] <AnxiousCo> peija-kas: is it very buggy or should i give it a try?
[09:05] <AnxiousCo> thanks
[09:05] <greig_> CheshireViking: 2.6.17-11
[09:05] <AlexC_> TheVault: grouping of Windows is also very handy
[09:05] <CheshireViking> greig_, rite, i think thats the default
[09:06] <TheVault> AlexC_: Oh. Iv been reading around that Beryl killed Vista so bad :)
[09:06] <AlexC_> TheVault: you can then compact the group so it apperas as one window, and cylce through them by pressing alt+left or right arrow
[09:06] <feniks> why neither root nor normal user can login to CUPS web admin??
[09:06] <AlexC_> TheVault: yes, yes it has
[09:06] <Ltar> etc: where can I find the gconf and gnome2 files?
[09:06] <peija-kas> AnxiousCo its not very buggy..ive used it and weve tested the files on Windows...seems to work pretty nicely..
[09:06] <greig_> CheshireViking: so perhaps these drivers wont work with this version as it is a newer kernel?
[09:06] <feniks> this ubuntu is weird
[09:06] <Tessa> hi all. does someone know what i could do to make evince give me a better result with an in kile created pdf? http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4246/screenshot1np3.png when i open a "normal" pdf evince has no problems showing it with good font.
[09:06] <ep2011> And my windows crashed and I need to reinstall it from defragging :\
[09:06] <brynk_> any people here know how to setup a bluetooth headset properly?
[09:06] <eck> feniks: look at the cups documentation, it might be set in a config file
[09:06] <Andeh> The reason its not perfectly reliable to use NFTS from linux is because microsoft wont tell anyone how NFTS works so all the utilities to use it are from guesswork
[09:06] <AlexC_> feniks: no - it's just not Windows.
[09:06] <erUSUL> feniks: becouse the web interface is disabled by default
[09:06] <AnxiousCo> peija-kas:  thanks for the info
[09:06] <feniks> AlexC_: it works flawlessly on gentoo
[09:06] <feniks> erUSUL: localhost:631 works.. just login is rejected
[09:06] <TheVault> AlexC_: Well once I finish re-installing Ubuntu on my laptop again, I'll give beryl a whirl. I did something and I screwed something up big on the system(im a newb, just exploring)
[09:06] <eck> feniks: it also could be the cups user
[09:06] <sarixe> hi, can someone help me with a faulty deb package installation?
[09:07] <erUSUL> feniks: i know you have to enable it there is page in the wiki
[09:07] <AlexC_> TheVault: best way to learn that is! exploring then breaking it :P
[09:07] <eck> no, the best way to learn is to read the man pages!
[09:07] <TheVault> AlexC_:Yeah, I just learned that the hard way 10 minutes ago
[09:07] <Andeh> I love linux. I reccomend anyone here who never used linux to use it.
[09:07] <AlexC_> eck: you can read all the books in the world ... but it will not stick untill you have expirance in doing it =)
[09:07] <Andeh> * to at least try it
[09:07] <xtknight> i can't stand reading books
[09:08] <PirateHead> Andeh: it's nice to see that the difficulties aren't turning you off. Keep at it!
[09:08] <eck> AlexC_: it's a two way street though
[09:08] <TheVault> AlexC_: Was going into this thing, messing around and then i screwed something up, the system locked up and all. Restarted and I got errors and things, it screeped me out so I'm re-installing
[09:08] <sarixe> metzen_: how's fios working out for you? just curious
[09:08] <Andeh> Thanks PirateHead
[09:08] <AlexC_> TheVault: probably that X server failed to load?
[09:08] <Andeh> I dread having to even boot windows now :D
[09:08] <erUSUL> feniks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface <<<< see here
[09:08] <XelHa> is there a known USB problem after hibernate (on Feisty) ?
[09:08] <TheVault> AlexC_: Yeah, all texted based things
[09:08] <AlexC_> Andeh: I agree, it pissses me off so much lol,
[09:08] <BlueEagle> feniks: For security reasons (and since ubuntu sets no password for root by default) the web interface login for cups is disabled by default. There are other ways to configure your printers that are (for most people) more intuitive. (Ie the gnome printer management interface)
[09:08] <Ltar> eck: where can I find the gconf and gnome2 files?
[09:09] <TheVault> AlexC_: I could not see no GUI, just all text based when I restarted with errors & whatnot
[09:09] <BlueEagle> feniks: Atleast that's what I've been told.
[09:09] <Andeh> This is a fact of common knoledge: Windows runs smoothly as long as you dont run it too much :-D
[09:09] <eck> Ltar: ~/.gconf and ~/.gnome2
[09:09] <feniks> BlueEagle: well i have root password set
[09:09] <whta> ugh stupid sourceforge needs to come back up
[09:09] <AlexC_> TheVault: if you mess X up run the command "sudo dpkgi--reconfigure xserver-xorg" to write a new xorg.conf file .. that should get you're X back (gui)
[09:09] <AlexC_> woops,
[09:09] <eck> Ltar: also, if you switch to a VT your keyboard should be fine
[09:09] <AlexC_> TheVault: sudo dpkg--reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:09] <TheVault> AlexC_: Well its to late for that, fresh install of Ubuntu is being installed on my laptop now, I'm sitting here on my desktop, enjoying linux :)
[09:09] <BlueEagle> feniks: Then you just need to enable the login to cups web interface. I don't remember how that was done exactly but I am sure it's documented on the cups home pages.
[09:09] <BlueEagle> !cups
[09:09] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:09] <CRNewsom> Can someone please help me with the link in firefox for java?
[09:10] <AlexC_> "Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups" I tend to use a printer rather than cups =D
[09:10] <CRNewsom> I installed J2RE, created the link, but it no work
[09:10] <hateyla> can i paste 3 lines on main?
[09:10] <CRNewsom> What is the difference between j2re and jre
[09:10] <AlexC_> hateyla: 3 lines is ok,
[09:10] <CRNewsom> besides a 2
[09:10] <BlueEagle> alexc_: How can you print when you don't speak the same language as the printer does?
[09:11] <hateyla>        You can use apt to download and install the packages. Use the following       lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and use the command sudo       apt-get update to enable downloading from this component.
[09:11] <TheVault> AlexC_: Whats crazy is that, My desktop is a Pentium 3 Processor @ 993MHZ with 256mb of RAM and 20gig HD and it this computer runs linux better than it does Windows. Plays videos, music & programs faster and smoother than it did on Windows. I'm like WOW
[09:11] <hateyla> for this i want to add text in source.list?
[09:11] <CheshireViking> greig_, there maybe something at the bottom of that webpage that helps, it talks about what to do if you have a 2.5 kernel  - maybe you can do a similar thing for the 2.6 kernel
[09:11] <eck> BlueEagle: you can if your printer speaks postscript :-)
[09:11] <moosa> can someone help me it seems that i cant access my BIOS at start up :(
[09:11] <Danila> Hi everyone! I am a new linux/ubuntu user. Couldn't  set up wireless connection. Is there anybody who can / is willing to help? (I looked up at community forums but it didn't help; maybe because I dont know where to start from)
[09:11] <robinsjostrom> CRNewsom: maybe you should join the #java channel
[09:11] <AlexC_> BlueEagle: I took languages in "cup" and I speak cup fluenty on a regular basis, my printer isn't the most talkative though
[09:11] <Ltar> eck: typing ~/ brings me to my home folder-- I don't see gconf or gnome2----  argh
[09:11] <BlueEagle> eck: But then you do speak the same langauge as the printer don't you? ;)
[09:12] <TheVault> Danila: I can help, but I'm only good with Broadcom chipset cards
[09:12] <eck> Ltar: they are hidden, hidden files start with a .
[09:12] <CRNewsom> robinsjostrom: thanks for the ref
[09:12] <BlueEagle> alexc_: Atleast it's a good listner.
[09:12] <eck> Ltar: try this: ls -l ~/.gconf ~/.gnome2
[09:12] <CheshireViking> greig_, I just tried following the suggestion it made, but the make command failed at the same point
[09:12] <AlexC_> BlueEagle: hehe true!
[09:12] <CheshireViking> not sure what else to suggest
[09:12] <Aeolien> moosa: What have you tried so far?
[09:12] <robinsjostrom> CRNewsom: no problem. Just make sure youre identified or you cant join the channel
[09:13] <CRNewsom> robinsjostrom: how do I perform that in xchat
[09:13] <greig_> ChesireViking: I think it looks like my cam is not supported, for this kernel version at least?
[09:13] <moosa> Aeolien: the old delete at start-up only
[09:13] <maryush> siema
[09:13] <TheVault> CRNNewsom: sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:13] <peija-kas> greig_ what cam do you have
[09:13] <AlexC_> CRNewsom: /msg nickserv register password    then /msg nickserv identify password
[09:13] <CRNewsom> robinsjostrom: it's been quite a while since I was on IRC regularly
[09:13] <Aeolien> Have you previously accessed your BIOS?
[09:13] <Andeh> wow. i was going to wait for my kde install to finish before installing kopete but apparently it did it for me :-D
[09:13] <maryush> jakie mloty
[09:13] <moosa> Aeolien: on this machine no
[09:13] <maryush> I FROM POLAND :D
[09:13] <CRNewsom> AlexC_: thanks
[09:13] <Andeh> I FROM CROATIA D:
[09:13] <greig_> peija-kas: Trust spacecam 120
[09:13] <CRNewsom> thanks all, see you soon
[09:13] <CRNewsom> maybe
[09:13] <AlexC_> bye
[09:13] <TheVault> brb, gotta finish setting up things on my laptop, thanks for the help guys
[09:14] <moosa> however i did on others and booted ubuntu just fine
[09:14] <Andeh> Bye TheVault!
[09:14] <AlexC_> TheVault: cya
[09:14] <TheVault> I'll be back once I'm done
[09:14] <eck> !pl
[09:14] <TheVault> peace until then
[09:14] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:14] <AlexC_> I suppose I'd etter be going as well!
[09:14] <AlexC_> bye all!
[09:14] <CheshireViking> greig_, have a look at this website http://nw802.sourceforge.net/news.html that mentions a patch for the 2.6 kernel
[09:14] <Aeolien> moosa: Perhaps [Delete]  isn't the key for you. Sometimes you need to hit a function key. F1, F2, F8, F10, and F12 are popular ones. Escape and Backspace also are used.
[09:14] <Ltar> eck: ahh I see-- It hadn't even occurred to me that ubuntu would hide system files
[09:14] <Aeolien> moosa: The entry into BIOS key differs on each computer. Try others.
[09:15] <Andeh> I am curious, do all linux distros: Use the newest kernel + Desktop Enviroment + Apps??
[09:15] <eck> Ltar: it is not system files, it is any file that starts with a .  this is a very old unix thing :-)
[09:15] <peija-kas> greig_ check out this site: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=2324
[09:15] <sethk> Ltar, doesn't hide them, really.  the ls listing doesn't show them without the flag, but they aren't hidden
[09:15] <moosa> the start up dosnt wait for me to try them all
[09:15] <greig_> CheshireViking: do i just copy and past that command into terminal?
[09:15] <void^> Andeh: no.
[09:15] <greig_> peija-kas: i will
[09:15] <eck> Ltar: if you use the -a option in ls you can see them
[09:15] <Andeh> void^: why not?
[09:15] <eck> Ltar: e.g. try this: ls -la ~
[09:15] <peija-kas> greig_ someone there commented: working driver available at: http://mxhaard.free.fr/index.html
[09:15] <Andeh> void^: what do they use then?
[09:15] <CheshireViking> greig_, no, i don't think so
[09:16] <Aeolien> moosa: Do what you can. It will prolly involve rebooting a few times.
[09:16] <void^> Andeh: if you want things to be stable you need to stick an older version and just apply bugfixes to that
[09:16] <void^> +to
[09:16] <eck> Ltar: you can toggle seeing hidden files in nautilus with ctrl-h, iirc
[09:16] <moosa> Aeolien: it is a laptop by the way
[09:16] <peija-kas> greig_ might be painful to set up thou
[09:16] <fellacious> audio chat in ubuntu: am i correct in saying that there is no program for this functionality?
[09:16] <Aeolien> moosa: What's the manufacturer?
[09:16] <peija-kas> greig_ but wont hurt to try ;)
[09:16] <Andeh> void^: so they use what i said and the latest stable one?
[09:16] <moosa> dell
[09:16] <Andeh> ok
[09:16] <greig_> peija-kas, this is all painfull, first time on linus lol
[09:16] <peija-kas> oh :)
[09:16] <Andeh> Whats a good IRC client? Looks like i'll come here often :-D
[09:16] <eck> greig_: get off of him
[09:17] <Aeolien> moosa: Try F2 then.
[09:17] <fellacious> Andeh: try irssi
[09:17] <fellacious> or xchat
[09:17] <moosa> Aeolien: ok thanks
[09:17] <greig_> CheshireVikings being a good help;)
[09:17] <peija-kas> greig_ i just set up a friends cam and almost went nuts...and im not a new user ;) cams can be difficult because theyre often not officially supported
[09:17] <moosa> *boots*
[09:17] <greig_> eck:lol
[09:17] <Andeh> Which is the best for IRC with easy ways to use all the commands?
[09:17] <feniks> ok found ubuntu blog
[09:17] <feniks> l8r
[09:17] <fellacious> xchat is easy, irssi is powerful
[09:17] <eck> Andeh: irssi (and you're gonna start a flame war :-)
[09:17] <unh0ly_> Andeh: irssi.
[09:17] <Andeh> irssi for me then
[09:17] <Hansel> bitchx...  :x
[09:17] <greig_> peika-kas, i shall check the site u sent also and see how it goes, thanks
[09:17] <fellacious> irssi is the chat program of choice of the gaynigger association of america
[09:18] <Andeh> sudo apt-get install irssi?
[09:18] <peija-kas> Andeh yes
[09:18] <Danila> TheVault, thank you. When I write "lshw" command, I see that my wireless (eth1) is disabled. When I try to enable it by "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" I get "Connection timed up" message. I am very new to linux and do not know from where to start. I entered the necessary information in "network manager" program, but "search domains"  and "domain name"  fields are empty. Are they necessary (sorry if stpid question)? By the way I use ndiswrapper and my wireless mode
[09:18] <Andeh> Wow thats easier than i thought. Very standard, ubuntu :D
[09:18] <peija-kas> fellacious maybe you should leave for using that kind of language
[09:18] <Hansel> gg LjL  :)
[09:18] <Hansel> peija-kas, he is gone.
[09:18] <peija-kas> ops
[09:18] <peija-kas> :)
[09:18] <unh0ly_> And whats so bad about fellatio?
[09:19] <whta> wait what
[09:19] <Hansel> unh0ly_, don't tempt the gods (err.. ops)
[09:19] <peija-kas> on this channel, ONLY discussion of Ubuntu and help
[09:19] <peija-kas> nothing else thank you
[09:19] <unh0ly_> No problem. I was just confused. ;-)
[09:20] <MostKnown53> hey whats a good firewall for linux
[09:20] <liquiddoom> MostKnown53: Linux has a firewall built in
[09:20] <liquiddoom> MostKnown53: Install the package "firestarter"
[09:20] <LjL> !firewall
[09:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:20] <jaycie> how do i intall ubuntu6.10 from desktop after i have booted up with the cd in?
[09:21] <JohnPhys> MostKnown53: I think "iptables" is the system linux uses for the firewall, and most everything else is a frontend.  I use firestarter, but I'm not sure if that's being maintained anymore.
[09:21] <LjL> jaycie: click on the icon that says "Install"?
[09:21] <peija-kas> jaycie double click the Install icon
[09:21] <jaycie> hit the install icon?
[09:21] <unh0ly_> jaycie: You click the Install-icon on the desktop.
[09:21] <Aeolien> jaycie: Yeah, do that.
[09:21] <jaycie> ok thanks.. great.. can i sit here case i need more help?
[09:21] <peija-kas> yes
[09:21] <LjL> JohnPhys: no, iptables is a frontend too. the system linux uses is called netfilter
[09:21] <LaserLine> I have somthing that won't delete in the trash bin.  How do I force delete it?
[09:21] <Aeolien> jaycie: That's why we're here. :P
[09:21] <peija-kas> jaycie if you have a windows partition in the same machine, make sure to backup any important data!
[09:21] <hateyla> i just add a source in source.list after then i update my apt-get with 'sudo apt-get update" now how can i install selected package from select source?
[09:22] <JohnPhys> LjL: alrighty, thanks for the info
[09:22] <unh0ly_> LaserLine: cd into it via your console, then rm it.
[09:22] <jaycie> thanks muich Aeolien will it take along time?
[09:22] <eck> LaserLine: you can delete it at the command line, the trash direcotyr is ~/.Trash
[09:22] <Danila> Help wanted! : )   Subject Wireless installation.              When I write "lshw" command, I see that my wireless (eth1) is disabled. When I try to enable it by "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" I get "Connection timed up" message. I am very new to linux and do not know from where to start. I entered the necessary information in "network manager" program, but "search domains"  and "domain name"  fields are empty. Are they necessary (sorry if stpid question)? By the
[09:22] <Danila> Can anybody help?
[09:22] <peija-kas> jaycie if you happen to make some mistakes in partitioning and accidentally erase windows etc
[09:22] <peija-kas> jaycie installing should take 20-30 mins in livecd
[09:22] <jaycie> peija-kas ok
[09:22] <unh0ly_> brbr
[09:22] <unh0ly_> -r
[09:22] <unh0ly_> ;)
[09:22] <Aeolien> jaycie: *Do* make sure you back up your hard drive if you are installing besides Windows.
[09:22] <NETWizz> I need help installing RAID
[09:23] <jaycie> Aeolien nope no windows
[09:23] <peija-kas> jaycie then no problem ;)
[09:23] <Aeolien> jaycie: Wonderful. It's a lot easier then.
[09:23] <Danila> :(
[09:23] <jaycie> i am tryin to get rid of ms.. but have 6 puters i think so it takes time and im new to linux
[09:23] <hume> hi...how can I play a dvd.iso, mounted loopback, in dapper?
[09:23] <peija-kas> oh yeh..well its best to learn by doing..
[09:24] <hume> mplayer seems to crash all the time
[09:24] <Aeolien> jaycie: Indeed.
[09:24] <peija-kas> hume try VLC player
[09:24] <eck> Danila: the error was connection timed up?
[09:24] <N3WB> Is it possible to get a PHP Script to restart a program lets say steam?
[09:24] <jaycie> yes peija yer rite, i hope the networking is not hard with the cable connection not wireless on this one
[09:24] <peija-kas> "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[09:24] <eck> N3WB: of course, if it had the proper permissions
[09:24] <X86echo> hello peeps
[09:24] <Andeh> !irssi
[09:24] <peija-kas> jaycie wired networking works better
[09:24] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[09:25] <jaycie> peija-kas so im told but is it hard to set up?
[09:25] <Aeolien> jaycie: What networking do you have? Modem? LAN? PPPOE?
[09:25] <peija-kas> jaycie youre on the net now :) so no its not hard
[09:25] <jaycie> dsl router linksys
[09:25] <NETWizz> I have a prolient ML 370 Server and wish to run Ubuntu Server on it
[09:25] <NETWizz> I cannot get it to work though
[09:25] <jaycie> i hear the cd working bout dont see anything going on
[09:25] <peija-kas> jaycie if youre on the livecd now?
[09:25] <NETWizz> RAID isn't supported
[09:25] <NETWizz> please help
[09:25] <jaycie> peija-kas i  didnt think so.. i ordered it online
[09:25] <eck> NETWizz: find out what raid card you have and then search the forums
[09:26] <rbellamy> what's the recommended way to add language bindings to gedit?
[09:26] <vijay> how do i get yahoo messenger??........... im behind proxy server and was unable to config gaim to use as yahoo messenger
[09:27] <N3WB> eck: How?
[09:27] <peija-kas> vijay you can use gaim thru proxy cant you?
[09:27] <msgmike> Hi again, I used the alternate iso installer for 6.10 and I'm still getting the orange screen with gibberish when I start up. I have an 7800GT PCIX videocard, could anyone shed some light on this problem? I think the OS installed OK, as grub is setup and loads up, I get to the username screen and when I login I see lines like bad pixels and an orange background.
[09:27] <vijay> ye but my p[roxy does not allow 5050 tunneling
[09:27] <eck> N3WB: i don't know php, but you would just have to send a kill signal to the program and then bring it back up with however you do system calls in php
[09:27] <jaycie> peija-kas should i see anything on desktop going on or jsut a mouse sittin there and hear the cd going?
[09:28] <peija-kas> jaycie try rebooting and doing it again
[09:28] <peija-kas> it should start a graphical installer program
[09:28] <eck> N3WB: it wouldn't be too much different from how you do it at the command line though
[09:28] <peija-kas> ive had it crahs sometimes
[09:28] <thugren> Hello, SO has anyone tried the kubuntu 6.10 in x64? Mine  keep freeze up at the video card init string?
[09:28] <Aeolien> jaycie: How old is that computer?
[09:28] <vijay> wht ever port i try to connect it gives errors
[09:28] <peija-kas> afk..
[09:29] <clearzen> thugren: I tried it and then I went back to 32 bit
[09:29] <thugren> I am going to see if I can get the 6.06 and see if it will work better?
[09:29] <jaycie> tis a dell um had ME on it
[09:29] <jaycie> deminsion4300.. not sure.. my sister gave it to us
[09:29] <thugren> clearzen why what is the difference?
[09:29] <clearzen> thugren: there is not as many available packages
[09:29] <clearzen> thugren: like flash
[09:29] <jaycie> its not doing anything that i can tell but the cd is running
[09:30] <msgmike> Hi again, I used the alternate iso installer for 6.10 and I'm still getting the orange screen with gibberish when I start up. I have an 7800GT PCIX videocard, could anyone shed some light on this problem? I think the OS installed OK, as grub is setup and loads up, I get to the username screen and when I login I see lines like bad pixels and an orange background.
[09:30] <clearzen> thugren: And it seems to be more buggy
[09:30] <mozul> anyone here know about installing ubuntu on a system with a raid card?
[09:30] <unh0ly_> msgmike: You can access your OS via Ctrl Alt F1-6. Then open your xorg.conf via vim and edit the first resolution listed in 24bit-section.
[09:30] <thugren> clearzen Aaaa.. That might explain my I can't get that system to work.
[09:30] <Aeolien> jaycie: Have you told it to boot from CD?
[09:30] <jaycie> Aeolien i hit install at the boot up screen
[09:31] <thugren> mozul What type of raid card do you have?
[09:31] <Aeolien> jaycie: OK, good.
[09:31] <unh0ly_> Just erase the first one, just see if it's a problem with your drivers. Alternatively just edit your device to vesa.
[09:31] <vijay> plz help me out...... i even cant instll the package from yahoo website also.... it gives me some dependencies error
[09:31] <Aeolien> jaycie: Have you seen any text since then?
[09:31] <mozul> Promise FastTrak TX2000
[09:31] <jaycie> Aeolien so still need to hit the INSTALL icon?
[09:31] <msgmike> unh0ly: how do I access vim?
[09:31] <unh0ly_>  - vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:31] <jaycie> Aeolien i hit the install desktop icon but hav not seen anything since.. just hear cd working
[09:31] <unh0ly_> without "-" in front of it.
[09:32] <NETWizz> Where are the forums
[09:32] <NETWizz> I need help installing RAID on an ML370
[09:32] <NETWizz> That is a Compaq Server
[09:32] <unh0ly_> Make sure to read the manual of vim and the beginner lesson for vim-users.
[09:32] <thugren> mozul Aaaa.. Well I did it with a promise ATA100 Raid. But I didn't seem to matter if it was drivers where raid.
[09:32] <Aeolien> jaycie: Make sure you double-click. The mouse cursor will turn to a spinning pinwheel while the "Install" window loads.
[09:32] <jaycie> i need to run out and do my chores will take bout half hour.. if this has not moved when i come back i think it wont work lol,, mouse diid work a bit i forgot but quit
[09:33] <jaycie> shall i double click it again?
[09:33] <Aeolien> jaycie: I don't see why not.
[09:33] <jaycie> ok ty
[09:33] <thugren> mozul, It would see 2 different drive even if I has them part raided..
[09:33] <unh0ly_> Hm. Just click it once, then hit Return.
[09:33] <jaycie> gr mouse is froze up
[09:33] <mozul> thugren: i tried instaling 6.10 from the alternative cd.  and it doesn't see the raid mirror when the bios does.  Promise has drivers for SUSE, redhat and turbo
[09:33] <unh0ly_> Hm. Not good, jaycie.
[09:33] <Aeolien> jaycie: Well, it's doing something :P
[09:33] <cappy> vijay: you can configure GAIM to work with your proxy, that's going to be the easiest way
[09:33] <K3nto> hey guys this may seem a lil bit off topic, but it kinda is. My isp keeps track of how much i download/upload. is there some whay to hide that from them?
[09:33] <jaycie> the cd is working
[09:33] <nexousNET> Hi
[09:33] <unh0ly_> K3nto: No.
[09:34] <clearzen> K3nto: yeah, mod your cable modem
[09:34] <nexousNET> I just installed ubuntu-server
[09:34] <unh0ly_> You cant't cheat you volume.
[09:34] <nexousNET> I just logged in via "cmd" What can I go about doing now?
[09:34] <K3nto> unh0ly_: somebody was telling me something about using proxy settings?
[09:34] <jaycie> ah shoot there went aeolien lol
[09:34] <clearzen> K3nto: you can uncap your bandwidth too, but the feds will kick down your door if you don't know what you are doing
[09:34] <thugren> mozul Yea.. I have tried to install that the x64 bit? but didn't get installed keep freeze up.
[09:34] <sethk> K3nto, no
[09:35] <erUSUL> nexousNET: to do what?
[09:35] <kitche> K3nto: umm it still goes though your ISP
[09:35] <unh0ly_> clearzen: Uhm, the ISP will still be able to connect the traffic to the account.
[09:35] <mozul> ok
[09:35] <thugren> mozul Are you using the i386?
[09:35] <Pollywog> why isn't ifrename in Ubuntu repositories?
[09:35] <sethk> K3nto, proxies are not going to hide anything.  if you download through their pipe to your machine, they'll see it
[09:35] <mozul> thugren: yes
[09:35] <K3nto> nuts
[09:35] <nexousNET> erUSUL: Well, I'm wondering what all I can do with ubuntu-server now, am I able to get a graphical interface?
[09:35] <unh0ly_> sethk: exactly.
[09:35] <jaycie> its been doing this for over 10 mins.. and its not doing anything on dt i think
[09:35] <nexousNET> or what that just be ubuntu desktop pretty much
[09:35] <K3nto> mkay, thanks for the destruction of hope :D
[09:35] <K3nto> lol
[09:35] <thugren> mozul Another thing to try is use the 6.06.
[09:35] <vijay> hey cappy but my schol proxy server does not allow 5050 port tunneling
[09:35] <unh0ly_> You're welcome.
[09:36] <vijay> so i cant cinfigure
[09:36] <vijay> it
[09:36] <clearzen> unh0ly_: you can sniff comcast with blackcat firmware and using nieboring mac addys to throw them off I think.
[09:36] <CheshireViking> greig_, are you still around? have you got anywhere with the webcam?
[09:36] <jaycie> what should i do.. its been 15 mins and done nuttin
[09:36] <thugren> mozul And When I install Suse to that raid Had nothing but headaches..
[09:36] <kitche> nexousNET: yes sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will install gnome with everything that a desktop ubuntu would have
[09:36] <greig_> im still here, still reading up atm
[09:37] <mozul> thugren: is it possible to press f3 during the cd boot process for ubuntu and install a driver disk like other distros can?
[09:37] <unh0ly_> clearzen: I don't think so.  Rather than gnome
[09:37] <jaycie> i have to go now.. i think the ubuntu is not working .. bbl thanks
[09:37] <kitche> nexousNET: just do xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop if you want the otehr ones just install their packages
[09:37] <greig_> CheshireVikin: yea im here, still reading up about others having issues with it
[09:37] <nexousNET> okay
[09:38] <K3nto> gaaahhhhh. my sound in ubuntu isnt working
[09:38] <K3nto> i have a game in one workspace, and my music player in the other. i disabled the sound from the game and now theres no music
[09:38] <thugren> mozul  hmmm, I belive there is a hardware manger like that of suse and you can add your custom hardware?
[09:38] <CheshireViking> greig_, i've been looking round, came across this website of someone who sounds like the same problem as you - needing to install on a 2.6 kernal & having to use the patch as well, http://www.unixgroups.com/showthread.php?s=450747dd758333b1d62728b899fe2224&t=73189&page=1&pp=10 - i don't know if it'll help, also found this message about having to use the cvs files, not the main release - i can't help with that i'm afraid, but good luck
[09:39] <unh0ly_> Maybe its still using the sound-demon, just without any sound-ouput, K3nto?
[09:39] <mozul> ok thanks
[09:39] <thugren> mozul So what are the hard drive size that you are raiding?
[09:39] <greig_> Cheshireviking: thanks alot, i appreciate it
[09:39] <mozul> two 200 gig drives that are a mirror.  I want to put /home on that.
[09:39] <thugren> mozul and What Raid are you using?
[09:39] <K3nto> unh0ly_: maybe. how do i fix it
[09:39] <cappy> vijay: you could connect to your home computer then, and tunnel port 5050
[09:40] <CheshireViking> greig_, your welcome, just wish i'd been able to help better
[09:40] <unh0ly_> K3nto: The only way that comes to mind would be, to quit the player and the game.
[09:40] <mozul> thugren: ill put everything else on a single 200gig drive.
[09:40] <unh0ly_> Then start your music, followed by the game.
[09:40] <K3nto> ok
[09:40] <mozul> thugren: i really want raid 5 but dont have a card that will do it.
[09:40] <unh0ly_> That's how I'd do it with Q3.
[09:41] <K3nto> yesss
[09:41] <K3nto> unh0ly_: yep
[09:41] <unh0ly_> Worked? :)
[09:41] <K3nto> yep
[09:41] <unh0ly_> Fine.
[09:42] <thugren> mozul wow..    man what are you planing to do? ;) LOL.. Man I have a 40Gig Partion on my main pc and 12 gig on my laptop for ubuntu. AndI have add Almost every peice of software ubuntu has to offer and I still have like 5 gig or more left..
[09:42] <thugren> ;)
[09:42] <unh0ly_> thugren: Lots of music, movies and games, maybe? ;o)
[09:43] <anolis> anyone know anything about kiba-dock
[09:43] <mozul> thugren: we plan to put or music and pictures on the mirror (currently over 120g) and the non mirrored drive will be torrenting down any tv shows we want to watch
[09:43] <unh0ly_> Btw, I have a very stupid problem. I have and IDE hard disk, that I have to mount every time I boot.
[09:43] <thugren> unholy.. LOL.. Yea.. I guess.. But That is what CD and DVD are for.. ;)
[09:43] <anolis> and why when i run it it doesnt let me click on anything but kiba
[09:43] <Alonea> So, does Linux have any nice video editing software? like somthing similar to Pinnacle , Showbiz, Primier, etc.
[09:44] <kitche> unh0ly_: did you add that drive to your /etc/fstab?
[09:44] <unh0ly_> I know its being done in /etc/fstab, but I don't know how.
[09:44] <thugren> mozul.. Aaaa. Becare doing torrent service for games and ythat
[09:44] <unh0ly_> Don't I need to know the UUID?
[09:45] <kitche> unh0ly_: you cna use device names instead if you wish
[09:45] <mlalkaka> does anyone know of a good website where i can pay for and download music (without DRM)? the only one i could find so far is http://www.allofmp3.com.
[09:45] <knoppix> Servus!
[09:45] <unh0ly_> so /dev/hdb5 /home/user/name should be enough?
[09:46] <unh0ly_> Or do I need to add the filesystem too?
[09:46] <mozul> thugren: Thanks. cya later.  Ill try a driver disk later.
[09:46] <thugren> mozul and whatcha your bandwidth when your using the torrents..
[09:46] <kitche> unh0ly_: you have ot add the filesystem also like /dev/hdb5 /home/user/name/ filesystem 0 0 or 0 1 depending
[09:46] <mozul> thugren: FIOS rules
[09:47] <erUSUL> Alonea: maybe kino
[09:47] <unh0ly_> What does 0 1 and 0 0 mean?
[09:47] <FreeKFC_Guy> can i upgrade ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 from a cd
[09:47] <thugren> mozul ;) LOL..
[09:47] <Alonea> erUSUL: hmmm, some other guy said it sucks.
[09:47] <rbellamy> i need some remedial help... when i try to use "readline -p" in my script... it says that the command wasn't found...
[09:47] <thugren> mozul and money get priority. ;) Teehee
[09:47] <rbellamy> but i've got both readline-common and libreadline5 installed
[09:47] <erUSUL> Alonea: i can not say otherwise becouse i never used it
[09:47] <kitche> unh0ly_: man fstab will tell you about those
[09:47] <steve_> Lynoure: i removed all the old kernel vers via synaptic.  i watched the terminal window and noticed that it didn't find the files i moved, but kept going anyway
[09:48] <nexousNET> How do I get my ethernet connection working in server-edition?
[09:48] <unh0ly_> kitche: Ah, sure. Thank you!
[09:48] <Andeh> Hello again!
[09:48] <unh0ly_> Got to grab something eat. Laters. :)
[09:48] <erUSUL> nexousNET: configure it in /etc/network/interfaces and bring it up
[09:48] <rbellamy> so... my question is... is there a magic incantation i'm missing to get readline working in a bash script?
[09:48] <steve_> Lynoure: rebooted, and mythtv fired right back up.  as  long as i didnt' break that i'm happy :)
[09:48] <Andeh> I am back
[09:49] <nexousNET> erUSUL: I added 'auto eth0' and 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[09:49] <zafod77> quick question about mount points. I have a system with an smb share mount on it...the server went down before unmounting the drive now that the server is back up I'm trying to remount it but it sais the device is busy how can I regain control of it?
[09:49] <erUSUL> nexousNET: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:49] <nexousNET> erUSUL: okay brb
[09:50] <greig_> sorry, whats teh command to see what kernel im running again please?
[09:50] <Andeh_> Hello
[09:51] <FreeKFC_Guy> hey
[09:51] <FreeKFC_Guy> i gotta question aboiut installing ubuntu
[09:51] <Andeh_> How do i check if i am running KDE?
[09:51] <gunawan> hello
[09:51] <Andeh_> I think its gnome!
[09:51] <gunawan> im from indonesia
[09:51] <scv> oh
[09:51] <gunawan> im use ubuntu versi 5.01
[09:51] <zafod77> greig_: cat /proc/version
[09:51] <thugren> mozul and money get priority. ;) Teehee?
[09:51] <thugren> Opps
[09:51] <gunawan> im satisfied
[09:52] <thugren> Andeh what did you download?
[09:52] <FreeKFC_Guy> i want to upgrade to 6.10 from cd - is it possible
[09:52] <Andeh_> How do i check if i am running kde?
[09:52] <FreeKFC_Guy> andeh: which ver of ubuntu u running
[09:52] <Andeh_> Latest
[09:53] <Andeh_> Edgy Eft 6.10
[09:53] <thugren> andeh What version did you download? ubuntu kubuntu or edubuntu?
[09:53] <liquiddoom> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[09:53] <Andeh_> UBUNTU and i did apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:53] <rennen01> ens1371 still not working fully.  just hearing static.  can anyone help?
[09:53] <Andeh_> about ten minutes ago
[09:53] <mallow23> hey, I just installed xubuntu 6.06 and was unable to log in . . . so I used the rescue disc and added a user but I dont have admin rights, how can I add admin privaleges?
[09:53] <hateyla> Andeh_: i m new but.. i want to say.. try to install it.. u just download it ... i think
[09:54] <gxr1> hi...
[09:54] <thugren> andeh, Going into log off and check the session's? You can log into and see what is there?
[09:54] <gxr1> is there any website that contains a list og repositories for ubuntu
[09:54] <Andeh_> well it was a kubuntu login screen
[09:54] <gxr1> i mean extra repositories for 6.10
[09:54] <Andeh_> but it looks exactly the same after
[09:54] <Andeh_> and i cant find the KDE options
[09:55] <thugren> andeh then it is more like the kde version?
[09:55] <void^> Andeh_: switch your session to kde on the login screen.
[09:55] <Andeh_> i dont know, i want to find out if i am running kde!
[09:55] <mallow23> can anybody help me?  I need to know how to give an acount admin rights through a terminal
[09:55] <Andeh_> everything but the desktop im in now looks like KDE but this is gnome i think
[09:56] <Andeh_> How do i make SURE that its KDE?
[09:56] <CheshireViking> greig_, if you can get somebody to explain about the CVS files, this sounds exactly what you need http://andatche.com/2006/05/27/nw802-webcam-linux-driver/
[09:56] <Andeh_> the login screen IS KDE
[09:56] <smarteeo> hi, I recently installed ubuntu on my thinkpad t41, and I am absolutely unable to get the trackpoint scrolling button to work. Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. I have already tried as many of the google results as I can, but nothing seems to work
[09:56] <thugren> andeh, do what void just told ya..
[09:56] <darkfusion> hey guys gnome keeps renaming my hard drive end.end
[09:56] <kitche> Andeh_: look at the about
[09:56] <darkfusion> tried to change fstab but no luck
[09:57] <Andeh_> The only place to GET about is the gnome about
[09:57] <Andeh_> the login and boot says KUBUNTU but everything else is gnome
[09:57] <Andeh_> weird
[09:57] <rennen01> happened to me too
[09:57] <rennen01> i removed kde
[09:57] <kitche> Andeh_: then you are using gnome did you select kde before you logged in?
[09:57] <rennen01> and the usplash stayed kubuntu
[09:58] <rennen01> did you remove kde?
[09:58] <greig_> cheshireviking: yea looks right, im just going to read it, thanks:)
[09:58] <thugren> andeh But Do a Session change in the logging screen. You will see the KDE or Gnome, or lite or some others.
[09:58] <Andeh_> I didnt select anything, the login screen was KUBUNTU so i didnt think i had to
[09:58] <Andeh_> all the apps running now are GNOME
[09:58] <void^> think again
[09:58] <rennen01> when you install kubuntu it does that
[09:58] <Andeh_> it says so in sessions
[09:58] <Andeh_> ok
[09:58] <Andeh_> ill log out then?
[09:58] <Andeh_> bye
[09:58] <rennen01> no
[09:58] <smarteeo> does anyone here have a thinkpad that they have working with the trackpoint based scrolling?
[09:58] <rbellamy> in bash scripting, what's the difference between "select" and "readline" and why would one work (select) and not the other (readline)?
[09:58] <Flare183> has anybody gotten compiz to work with AIGLX
[09:58] <darkfusion> any idea on the hard drive renaming ?
[09:59] <robokop> how can i set x to autostart on boot?
[09:59] <rennen01> you have to un-install the kubuntu usplash to see the ubuntu instead of kubuntu again
[09:59] <brophat> booted with live cd get the msg "GNOME error. It says: Did not receive reply. Remote application did not send reply, security blocked reply, network conection broken." does that mean graphics card not compatible?
[10:00] <Flare183> has anybody gotten compiz to work with AIGLX
[10:00] <smarteeo> the touchpad scrolling works for me, but the trackpoint does not. I have tried modifying xorg.conf in many of the ways suggested online, but i cant make it work
[10:00] <smarteeo> help?
[10:00] <rennen01> no but i have beryl =)
[10:00] <FreeKFC_Guy> i tried to install ubuntu 6.10 on ubuntu 6.06 machine - installation goes fine but it get stuck at detecting system files - help
[10:00] <quaal> why does gnome partition editor not give me the option to make an ext partition
[10:00] <Flare183> beryl i know
[10:00] <rennen01> =(
[10:01] <bayziders> how do you edit your start up porgrams?
[10:01] <Flare183> I had fedora core 6 running with compiz and AIGLX but i couldn't connect to the internet so i switched back to ubuntu so i know that compiz will work i have tried to make it work but with no success
[10:02] <nexousNET> Do I have to install an extra repo to do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[10:02] <rennen01> bayziders System>Prefences>Sessions
[10:02] <robokop> how can i set x to autostart on boot?
[10:02] <rennen01> robokop System>Prefences>Sessions
[10:03] <Flare183> so can anybody help me?
[10:03] <brophat> booted with live cd get the msg "GNOME error. It says: Did not receive reply. Remote application did not send reply, security blocked reply, network conection broken." does that mean graphics card not compatible?
[10:03] <robokop> rennen01: i don't have gnome installed
[10:03] <Poul^Laptop> After i have reinstalled ubuntu, my other partions of my hardisk(those with windows on) Arent mountet, i cant see em like i used to? do i have to do anything special to see this?
[10:03] <rennen01> aw shucks =(
[10:03] <rennen01> one sec
[10:04] <Andeh> hello again
[10:04] <rennen01> hi
[10:04] <FreeKFC_Guy> hey
[10:04] <Andeh> i got kde running
[10:04] <lokam> how do i play rmvb movie files?
[10:04] <Andeh> its horrible :D
[10:04] <FreeKFC_Guy> candy
[10:04] <Flare183> I had fedora core 6 running with compiz and AIGLX but i couldn't connect to the internet so i switched back to ubuntu so i know that compiz will work i have tried to make it work but with no success
[10:04] <Flare183> so can anybody help me?
[10:04] <nexousNET> Do I have to install an extra repo to do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[10:05] <user-land> Is there a way to make the system realise a file is gone ?
[10:05] <rennen01> other than the internet howd you like the fc6 compiz?
[10:05] <robokop> nexousNET: not that i know
[10:05] <Jack_Minster> Hi, can anyone help me with my WRT54GX4?
[10:05] <Flare183> rennen01:> i really like it!
[10:05] <Jack_Minster> (Linksys PCI Adapter)
[10:05] <FreeKFC_Guy> which is better fluxbox or xfce - i mean performance wise
[10:06] <Flare183> just great
[10:06] <nexousNET> robokop: Well I just installed ubuntu server edition, added my ethernet connection. Internet works fine. When i run 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' it says package ... not found
[10:06] <rennen01> flare183: ill have to do that tonight
[10:06] <nolimitsoya> if i want to record the top and average cpu usage of a process - how do i? what im looking for is something similar to top, but for resources
[10:06] <GaiaX11> nexousNET: I think not.
[10:06] <Flare183> rennen01:> what do you mena
[10:06] <Flare183> rennen01:> what do you mean
[10:06] <rennen01> flare183: install fc6 compiz
[10:06] <robokop> nexousNET: do you have the internet repos installed or just the cd
[10:06] <rennen01> flare183: or at least start the install =)
[10:07] <Flare183> rennen01:> well try to connect to the net
[10:07] <nexousNET> robokop: not sure, what file has the repos listed in it?
[10:07] <blake__> \list
[10:07] <nexousNET> "/etc/apt/sources.list" isnt it
[10:07] <VR_> is there going to be another herd before the final release?
[10:07] <Flare183> rennen01:> i have a broadcom wireless pc card an i can't get it to connect on Fedora (WMP 11)
[10:07] <robokop> nexousNET: should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <nexousNET> robokop: k
[10:08] <quaal> how do i make an ext partition on a new drive? gparted doesnt seem to have the option
[10:08] <GaiaX11> nexousNET: right. Have a look there
[10:08] <GaiaX11> And enable the repos
[10:08] <robokop> can sb help me with setting x to autorun?
[10:09] <Flare183> rennen01:> and i can't even get it to connect
[10:09] <nexousNET> Wait, what will the repos be for server edition?
[10:09] <GaiaX11> robokop: Do you mean getting in without gdm asking for a pass?
[10:09] <nexousNET> Or should they just be commented in there right now?
[10:09] <Flare183> well had problems connecting to the net with the same card when i first got ubuntu but i wrote a script that fixed that
[10:10] <rennen01> Flare183: im not sure but if i see you in here later i will give you how my install is going
[10:10] <robokop> GaiaX11: don't have gdm but xfce4
[10:10] <Flare183> rennen01:> ok
[10:10] <wazzles> hey charlies
[10:10] <Flare183> i'll be here
[10:10] <GaiaX11> robokop: whatever.
[10:10] <robokop> robokop: and i wan't it to ask for a pass
[10:11] <robokop> but now i have to login first and then startx
[10:11] <N3WB> How to i set folder permissions?
[10:11] <quaal> chmod
[10:11] <GaiaX11> N3WB: chmod
[10:11] <Flare183> rennen01:> oh yeah by the way i have a ATI Radeon Graphics card if that helps
[10:11] <N3WB> a yes thats right, thanks
[10:12] <penius> what package installs Magick-config? I just did an apt-get install imagemagick and mogrify/compare/etc are there, but there's no Magick-config
[10:12] <quaal> does anyone know how to make an ext partition? gnome partition editor doesnt even give ext as an option for some reason
[10:12] <thugren> hey what is the ubuntu's Xconfigure file that I can type to do the x window fixing?
[10:12] <quaal> Xorg.conf ?
[10:12] <erUSUL> quaal: man mkfs
[10:12] <robokop> quaal: why whould you want ext instead of ext2 or ext3
[10:12] <quaal> erUSUL, thanks
[10:12] <quaal> robokop, i meant extx
[10:12] <quaal> 2 or 3
[10:13] <erUSUL> quaal: man mkfs.ext3 more precisely
[10:13] <quaal> ok
[10:13] <quaal> just thought there would be a gui or something
[10:13] <quaal> dunno why gparted would offer everything from msdos to amiga to bsd file system but not linux's native ext
[10:13] <robokop> quaal just checked mine has ext2 and ext3 options
[10:13] <quaal> hmm
[10:13] <quaal> weird
[10:14] <nolimitsoya> quaal,  why would you want ext to begion with? (or are we talkinjg about ext2/3?)
[10:14] <taigeR_`> tell me
[10:14] <nolimitsoya> *begin
[10:14] <N3WB> What do i need to write to get full permissions to folder "www" then? .-.-
[10:14] <nolimitsoya> N3WB, depends on what you want to do...
[10:14] <robokop> N3WB: you your group or everyone?
[10:15] <ferronica> How to open rar file
[10:15] <N3WB> Just me
[10:15] <N3WB> and all permissions
[10:15] <N3WB> read write delete create etc.
[10:15] <erUSUL> !rar > ferronica
[10:15] <nolimitsoya> N3WB,  you can either log in as a user with rights, chown it to make it yours, or add yourself to the group, or open the permissions for everyone. take a pick. :)
[10:15] <quaal> nolimitsoya, ext2/ext3
[10:15] <pepie34> is ther a devel feisty special irc channel somewhere?
[10:15] <jfalvarez> hey :), question, where can I look some fail error when I try to start a service, I mena, it just say "fail"
[10:15] <jfalvarez> :|
[10:15] <ferronica> erUSUL: yes rar
[10:15] <jfalvarez> *mean
[10:15] <N3WB> permissions for evryone..
[10:15] <ferronica> erUSUL: A .rar file
[10:15] <erUSUL> ferronica: see the pm from ubotu
[10:15] <robokop> N3WB: chmod 700 <file>
[10:16] <erUSUL> !rar
[10:16] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:16] <N3WB> (its a folder, works then too?)
[10:16] <robokop> N3WB: yes, but for the files in the folder add -R
[10:16] <nexousNET> It's still asking for cd
[10:16] <nexousNET> when I run install for xubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <rEvolution27> i messed up my xorg.conf and did a dpgk-reconfigure but i didn't tell it to include my laptop's native widescreen resolution... I don't even know what the native resolution is... Any ideas?
[10:17] <robokop> nexousNET: out comment the cd line
[10:17] <nolimitsoya> robokop, 700? sure you dont mean 777?
[10:17] <brophat> if live cd does not work on a particular box, then you could safely say that ubuntu is not compatible with that box?
[10:17] <robokop> nolimitsoya: 700 is just you
[10:17] <Priest-of-Psi> brophat: no
[10:17] <nexousNET> that'd be why :-p
[10:17] <nexousNET> brb
[10:17] <Priest-of-Psi> Linux/ unix is compatible with anything that does not run mac os
[10:17] <Priest-of-Psi> :D
[10:17] <nolimitsoya> robokop, yes, but thatd be daft for the www dir. then people wont be able to browse it :)
[10:17] <robokop> nolimitsoya: he asked for just him
[10:17] <brophat> Priest-of-Psi we are getting a gnome error. could it be that the correct video driver does not get installed with the live cd?
[10:17] <N3WB> with user rights 700 it shows nothing but with 777 it shows but still i cant add edit delete or anything just view the files and read them
[10:18] <fabio> olaa
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> brophat: gnome sucks anyway
[10:18] <robokop> N3WB: using a browser like firefox to view them?
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> its well developed
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> but I dont like it
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> :D
[10:18] <N3WB> File Manager
[10:18] <ferronica> erUSUL: how to open .rar
[10:18] <Priest-of-Psi> fluxbox for life!
[10:18] <brophat> Priest-of-Psi true. how do i get the live cd to load a different wm ??
[10:19] <X86echo> Konqueror is real slow for me for some reason
[10:19] <fabio> no puedo cambiar los permisos
[10:19] <fabio> que puedo hacer
[10:19] <robokop> N3WB: what if you try to edit them from comand line
[10:19] <erUSUL> ferronica: install unrar and use that command (unrar x file.rar)
[10:19] <VR_> brophat, you can't, each cd has only one wm
[10:19] <CheshireViking> greig_, just been playing around & trying a few things, using synaptic, i installed cvs, after that, i copied each line starting "cvs" from that last webpage i sent, that downloaded a directory to my home directory, then i just followed the instructions starting with the cp Makefile.26 Makefile etc, it still crashed out on me, but i'm not sure if i've got the kernel source that it says is needed.  Hope that helps a bit more
[10:19] <robokop> !espanyol > fabio
[10:20] <VR_> brophat, ubuntu has gnome, kubuntu kde, xubuntu xfce,  and so on...
[10:20] <X86echo> anyone know does this have to do with something I'm missing in the install
[10:20] <brophat> VR_ so even if i was to install ubuntu, I would be stuck initialy using the wm that comes with it?
[10:20] <nexousNET> Now it's coming up with errors
[10:20] <VR_> brophat, not necessarily
[10:20] <ferronica> erUSUL: i saved that .rar file on desktop
[10:20] <robokop> !spanish > fabio
[10:20] <greig_> CheshireViking: thanks i'll try that also and see if i get any further, i hope i get there in the end
[10:20] <VR_> brophat, you can always do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" if you wanted kde
[10:20] <Takoda_Sky> Does linux support WPA?
[10:21] <X86echo> well shoot it seems fine now
[10:21] <brophat> VR_ ahh ok.
[10:21] <VR_> brophat, or xubuntu-desktop, whatever you want
[10:21] <erUSUL> Takoda_Sky: depends on the wifi card driver
[10:21] <peter07> Takoda_Sky: yes
[10:21] <robokop> can sb help me with setting x to autorun?
[10:21] <nexousNET> It's possible to have xubuntu-desktop on server-edition right?
[10:21] <Takoda_Sky> I see
[10:21] <Takoda_Sky> well I obviously don't have that driver
[10:21] <robokop> nexousNET: should be yes
[10:21] <Takoda_Sky> ugh
[10:21] <brophat> VR_ if gome is giving probs on live cd, if i was to get the kde ubuntu disk, it may be ok?
[10:21] <Spanska> How can I install a new package from the command-line? I don't know the name of the package, I just want to install an application called "joe".
[10:22] <ferronica> erUSUL: i used this command   sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:22] <erUSUL> Takoda_Sky: what wifi card do you have?
[10:22] <eck> nexousNET: ugh, why would you want to have X11 on a server?
[10:22] <nexousNET> robokop: give me a minute, and I'll tell you the error
[10:22] <Takoda_Sky> was trying to get an older latitude up on the network so I could toy around with xubuntu a bit
[10:22] <eck> nexousNET: sure, you can do it if you really want
[10:22] <Takoda_Sky> one sec
[10:22] <X86echo> anyone want a hot cup of green tea?
[10:22] <VR_> brophat, what kind of problems are you having w/ gnome?
[10:22] <robokop> Spanska: try apt-cache search "joe"
[10:22] <ferronica> erUSUL: at ;ast it showed me this error -> E: Couldn't find package unra
[10:22] <peter07> Takoda_Sky: do you can connect to not encrypted network?
[10:22] <brophat> VR_ Did not receive reply. Remote application did not send reply, security blocked reply, network conection broken.
[10:22] <eck> X86echo: i do :-)
[10:23] <erUSUL> !info unrar
[10:23] <brophat> VR_ that is with live cd
[10:23] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:23] <pepie34> I'm looking ofr the linux-image-2.6.20-9 package because this is the only one to work on the macbook pro C2D on fesity
[10:23] <Takoda_Sky> haven't tried yet, in fact the encryption isn't really even nec. just do it as a safe gaurd
[10:23] <robokop> X86echo: no tea is evil COFFEE COFFEE
[10:23] <erUSUL> ferronica: you have to enable multiverse
[10:23] <brophat> VR_ the puter is a 1998 dell
[10:23] <pepie34> and it is not on the repository anymore
[10:23] <VR_> brophat, i think even if you tried the kubuntu cd, you'd be in the same spot because all it is, is just a different wm, but the same stuff under the hood
[10:23] <Verithrax> Hm, is it possible to install Beryl on herd 5? I'd like to test it.
[10:23] <pepie34> any idea where can i find it?
[10:23] <nexousNET> Well, I wanted server-edition because of the minimalisticness of it. I just wanted to have my server, with a minimal 'os'
[10:24] <eck> Verithrax: you could, but it comes with compiz which might be a better bet
[10:24] <Takoda_Sky> it's an IEEE 802.11b card.. need more info?
[10:24] <quaal> holy jesus
[10:24] <brophat> VR_ true it is probably a prob with X
[10:24] <robokop> pepie34: check #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[10:24] <nexousNET> Because ubuntu desktop had to much to get rid of for what I wanted.
[10:24] <Verithrax> Compiz won't work properly; it didn't on Edgy either at any rate.
[10:24] <brophat> VR_ you think it is a video card incompatiblity?
[10:24] <quaal> mkfs requires me to know the blocksize of the hard drive and all this bullshit?
[10:24] <cherva> i have a little problem when i copy a text from firefox then i close it and reopen it again the copied text is gone pls help
[10:24] <quaal> why doesnt my gparted just have ext2/3 in it ?
[10:24] <quaal> this doesnt make sense
[10:24] <X86echo> eck one for you robokop none for you  ;-)
[10:24] <eck> Verithrax: well pretty much all of the compositing code in beryl comes from compiz, so it will probably work if beryl will...
[10:24] <VR_> brophat, to be honest, i have no idea. i thought it was something with your network/internet connection...
[10:24] <peter07> Tokoda_sky: have you tried network-manager?
[10:25] <Spanska> robokop: it's found by that command
[10:25] <brophat> VR_ internet is not set up
[10:25] <X86echo> I cant dring coffie at this time I'll get real hyper and pull my hair out ;-)
[10:25] <Verithrax> eck: Beryl worked on Edgy; Compiz did not.
[10:25] <X86echo> drink*
[10:25] <robokop> Spanska: well then run sudo apt-get install "joe"
[10:25] <eck> Verithrax: well in any event, you can use beryl in feisty
[10:25] <brophat> VR_ could it be that the puter is not hooked up to the internet?
[10:25] <kevlar> okay installed ubunto, updates were interrupted i get this error dpkg --configure -a  ?????
[10:25] <pepie34> thanks robokop
[10:25] <Verithrax> Because I use AIGLX. Although, I'm not sure AIGLX is enabled in Feisty.
[10:25] <kevlar> install manually????????   wtf
[10:25] <ferronica> erUSUL: how to do this
[10:25] <Spanska> robokop: woah, thanks :D
[10:25] <Takoda_Sky> I just got it installed and running so no I haven't yet.. I just went to network settings and was gonna enter my WPA key and noticed it diodn't have a way of doing so
[10:25] <VR_> brophat, could be, yes... i think it's not recognizing your nic, or something
[10:25] <erUSUL> !repos | ferronica
[10:26] <ubotu> ferronica: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:26] <robokop> pepie34: np
[10:26] <robokop> Spanska: np
[10:26] <kevlar> dpkg --configure -a   ??????
[10:26] <Takoda_Sky> just WEP
[10:26] <brophat> VR_ there is not nic in the puter yet. but why would X need to have a nic installed?
[10:26] <void^> kevlar: try running that.
[10:26] <kevlar> it says i need superuser how do i switch??
[10:26] <Sam__> how well does wine work?
[10:26] <VR_> brophat, when exactly do you get that error?
[10:26] <robokop> kevlar: sudo infront
[10:27] <brophat> VR_ when the live cd is loading
[10:27] <eck> Sam__: it depends on the program you are running
[10:27] <brophat> VR_ X needs to have a nic installed?
[10:27] <VR_> brophat, no
[10:27] <robokop> Sam__: some programs work some barely some don't
[10:27] <Sam__> I am thinking about switching oto linuc
[10:27] <Sam__> *linux
[10:27] <VR_> brophat, i just *thought* that you were having internet-connectivity issues
[10:27] <brophat> ahh ok
[10:27] <VR_> i misunderstood
[10:27] <eck> Sam__: there are still components in the windows api that have not been written in wine, so those things will not work at all
[10:28] <kevlar> ahhhhhhh  sudo is the key
[10:28] <brophat> VR_ the live cd worked on another puter
[10:28] <brophat> so the cd is ok
[10:28] <Takoda_Sky> is network manager on xubuntu?
[10:28] <VR_> brophat, so you just get to X, and cannot boot into gnome, or whatever you're using, correct?
[10:28] <Sam__> photoshop, flash
[10:28] <Sam__> dreamweaver
[10:28] <Takoda_Sky> by the way..  I'm using ubuntu on this pc.. that's why I always come here
[10:28] <kevlar> why cant i browse my files folders?????
[10:28] <hateyla> is Amsn Support webcam chat?
[10:28] <peter07> Takoda_sky: the simplest way to use wpa is network-manager: please read this:http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[10:29] <eck> Sam__: i doubt it. flash will run on linux without wine, probably not dreamweaver or photoshop
[10:29] <brophat> VR_ gnome finally boots but it is real slow and all i get is the top menu bar, not the bottom one
[10:29] <Sam__> oh
[10:29] <Takoda_Sky> thank you very, very much
[10:29] <eck> Sam__: there are linux alternatives, of course
[10:29] <Sam__> for flash?
[10:29] <VR_> brophat, ok, that probably is an issue with graphics, yeah. might be a resolution problem
[10:29] <eck> Sam__: no, for the other programs
[10:29] <eck> there is a native port of flash to linux by adobe
[10:29] <VR_> brophat, either that or it could be a driver problem
[10:29] <robokop> Sam__: or dualboot for some time and see if it fits
[10:29] <kevlar> broken package??????
[10:29] <Sam__> yeah
[10:29] <peter07> Takoda_Sky: :( it's for gnome ...
[10:29] <ferronica> erUSUL: i have downloded one Movie file which is .rar compressed from torrent so i wanna open it.
[10:29] <brophat> VR_ I tried to play video and it said: Totem could not start up.
[10:30] <Takoda_Sky> that will definitely do the trick, thanks
[10:30] <robokop> argh still haven't x to autostart could sb help me with that
[10:30] <erUSUL> ferronica: allright, i have already told you what you have to do
[10:30] <kevlar> ou have 1 broken package on your system!
[10:30] <kevlar> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[10:30] <brophat> VR_ can it be that a correct driver is out there, but is not part of the live cd?
[10:30] <ferronica> erUSUL: after adding repositories what i do
[10:30] <VR_> brophat, yes, that could be
[10:30] <eck> Sam__: tbh, if you're going to try to switch to linux but run all of your windows applications in wine, then what's the point?
[10:30] <kevlar> Broken filter; jesus christ
[10:30] <brophat> VR_ is there anyway to get it loaded while in live cd?
[10:31] <erUSUL> ferronica: install unrar
[10:31] <Sam__> I think linux is better but there are some programs that I can't do without
[10:31] <VR_> brophat, do you know what sort of graphics you have?
[10:31] <hateyla> can i use windows .exe setups in linux through WINE?
[10:31] <kevlar> ou have 1 broken package on your system!
[10:31] <kevlar> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[10:31] <kevlar> ?????
[10:31] <ompaul> Sam__, nano, vi, emacs and the like - yeah we know
[10:31] <brophat> VR_ it is my brothers machine who I am corresponding with via email. his box is a 1998 dell
[10:32] <brophat> i told him to do a dmesg in terminal
[10:32] <brophat> he replied what is a terminal bwahahahaha
[10:32] <VR_> lol
[10:32] <eck> Sam__: you can install linux on a few gigabytes of space to just try it out
[10:32] <robokop> Sam__: dual booting would be a nice thing for you maybe
[10:32] <brophat> VR_ i am not familiar with gnome... where does one grab the terminal in gnome?
[10:32] <ferronica> erUSUL: should i do unselect two options that i did in repositories
[10:32] <Sam__> I think you can run your existing windows through xen
[10:33] <brophat> VR_ can terminal be gotten from top menu?
[10:33] <VR_> brophat, im not in linux right now, but yeah, it's under applications someplace.
[10:33] <Sam__> so I could keep it and never have to start into windows
[10:33] <erUSUL> ferronica: what options?
[10:33] <brophat> ok thanks
[10:33] <kalin> my fresh ubuntu installation hangs during startup while displaying the progress bar, is there some way to disable the loading screen so that i can see what failed to load?
[10:33] <samuraimak> Is gnome 2.18 included in edgy ports ?
[10:33] <brophat> VR_ it will say xterm?
[10:33] <kevlar> no mirc???
[10:34] <ferronica> erUSUL: that i did on software properties
[10:34] <eck> Sam__: that is possible, you would need to have a lot of ram though, at the very least
[10:34] <VR_> brophat, it'll just say "Terminal"
[10:34] <kalin> (booting into the installation using the installation cd, not from the systems bootloader)
[10:34] <Sam__> poop
[10:34] <kevlar> my wifi wont work
[10:34] <ferronica> erUSUL: universe and mulltiverse
[10:34] <erUSUL> ferronica: no you shouldn't there are many other usefull software in ther universe and multiverse repos it is a good idea to have them enabled
[10:34] <kevlar> in my laptop
[10:35] <eck> samuraimak: i highly doubt that gnome 2.18 will be backported to edgy
[10:35] <eck> samuraimak: it will be in feisty, however
[10:35] <samuraimak> eck, Can I get it from feisty ports ?
[10:35] <iAmTheDave> hey all
[10:35] <Spartacus> How do I get gcc-g++ for ubuntu edgy?
[10:35] <eck> samuraimak: you would be replacing like half of your system
[10:35] <eck> samuraimak: probably not
[10:36] <robokop> argh still haven't x to autostart could sb help me with that?
[10:36] <samuraimak> eck, better not :-) thanks
[10:36] <iAmTheDave> trying to install 6.10 from net install - only have a wireless card though (drivers are fine) - how can i configure the card to pick up the right open access wifi network?
[10:36] <quaal> oh..
[10:36] <eck> Spartacus: apt-get install g++
[10:36] <robokop> iAmTheDave: iwlist scan
[10:36] <quaal> this is not giving me the ext2/ext3 option to make a "disklabel"
[10:36] <quaal> not the partition
[10:36] <quaal> is msdos ok for the 'disklabel'
[10:36] <iAmTheDave> robokop: that'll not only give me a list but let me select one?
[10:36] <eck> samuraimak: feisty will be out in a month or so, however
[10:37] <kevlar> ??
[10:37] <eck> quaal: yes, that is correct
[10:37] <robokop> iwconfig <devicename> essid "<apname>"
[10:37] <quaal> gah
[10:37] <quaal> cant read
[10:37] <quaal> cool thanks
[10:37] <Spartacus> thanks, eck
[10:37] <jpjacobs> kevlar, not really, more like seperate desktops
[10:38] <iAmTheDave> robokop: and i can get the dev name from ifconfig right?
[10:38] <jpjacobs> !wireless > kevlar
[10:38] <kevlar> not helpful
[10:38] <robokop> iAmTheDave: yes
[10:38] <robokop> or from iwconfig
[10:38] <iAmTheDave> alright, thanks - gonna give it a go :)
[10:39] <kevlar> why do i have to enter the id?
[10:39] <brophat> VR_ live cd just takes a guess at what driver to use?
[10:39] <VR_> brophat, i think it just uses a generic one
[10:39] <jpjacobs> kevlar, be clear... id = essid of your accespoint?
[10:39] <kevlar> yes
[10:39] <jpjacobs> you can use any
[10:39] <kevlar> why cant it find it
[10:39] <kevlar> sure?
[10:40] <jpjacobs> are you looking on the right channel?
[10:40] <kevlar> if i need a password
[10:40] <jpjacobs> yes
[10:40] <brophat> VR_ ok and so conceivably it may likely not be good for a 1998 dell, but a good one could be gotten?
[10:40] <kevlar> its WPA
[10:40] <jpjacobs> wep should work without much toruble, for wpa, use wpa_supplicant
[10:40] <jpjacobs> trouble*
[10:40] <kevlar> hrm
[10:41] <VR_> brophat, yeah, if you know what sort of graphics you have, you could get another driver. i'm not very familiar with graphics issues, though
[10:41] <kevlar> how do i install beryl???
[10:41] <brophat> VR_ can dmesg be done with live cd?
[10:41] <Yeason> I just jumped in, but if you're talking WPA on old compies it works, I've got a Dell PII, year unknown, that talked to my WPA encrypted network without a problem
[10:41] <kevlar> which beryl do i install???
[10:41] <erUSUL> brophat: yes
[10:41] <VR_> brophat, i've never used it, don't know. sorry
[10:41] <brophat> erUSUL sweat
[10:42] <jrib> !beryl | kevlar
[10:42] <ubotu> kevlar: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:42] <brophat> VR_ so your best guess is a video driver issue?
[10:42] <kevlar> ubotu: yes but there are many there it is confusing
[10:42] <VR_> brophat, i'd say so
[10:42] <brophat> VR_ thats bud
[10:42] <brophat> i mean thanks bud
[10:44] <covert> Hey...I want to install Ubuntu on a 10+ year old computer, but the BIOS won't let me boot from CD.  What should I do?
[10:44] <erUSUL> !install > covert
[10:44] <kmarius> what's the name of the program that controls wireless settings in ubuntu? what's the /path/to/it?
[10:44] <asc> !install > asc
[10:45] <ferronica> erUSUL: So i did nothing wrong???
[10:46] <Pwnzorz> do you guys like suse 10.2?
[10:46] <erUSUL> ferronica: no afaics
[10:46] <hivemind> Hi everyone, I installed swiftfox but I don't know how to run it from console
[10:46] <hivemind> Anyone know the command?
[10:46] <hivemind> (It's not "swiftfox"
[10:46] <hivemind> )
[10:46] <Takoda_Sky> (had a phone call)  somebody commented about that being for ubuntu, packages install the same from ubuntu to kubuntu to xubuntu..  correct?
[10:46] <jfalvarez> hey, where can I find the mysql logs, I mean when I try to start it and it fails _
[10:46] <jfalvarez> ?
[10:46] <ferronica> erUSUL: what???
[10:47] <nooaa> hi guys somethings wrong with mysql im getting an error from phpmyadmin saying this------>>>#1045 - Access denied for user 'www-data'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[10:47] <Flannel> Takoda_Sky: they're all the same thing, so yes.
[10:47] <Takoda_Sky> thought so
[10:47] <evo> hivemind: if you installed it through synaptic or a .deb look in the "installed files" section
[10:47] <zhelezka_>
 is it man switfox?
[10:47] <kuzmaster> hey peoples
[10:47] <Takoda_Sky> ok.. gonna go try it out now, wish me luck
[10:47] <evo> for for something in /usr/bin
[10:47] <erUSUL> ferronica: no As Far As I Can See
[10:47] <erUSUL> ferronica: have you finally installed unrar ??
[10:47] <Pwnzorz> hivemind: try typin swiftfox... or browse the directory it installed itself in...
[10:48] <TheVault> Im back everyone
[10:48] <kuzmaster> !ntfs
[10:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:48] <robokop> argh still haven't x to autostart could sb help me with that?
[10:48] <Takoda_Sky> I'll need to plug in the ethernet *cable for this..  ugh..  gotta do some moving, see you all in afew
[10:48] <TheVault> If you can read my posts, then say TheVault
[10:49] <ferronica> erUSUL: yes i did thanx, do you know any book to or site where i learn ubuntu basic i am very new
[10:49] <ghata1> Hi, i run Edgy 6.10. Does Ubuntu have the Intel 965G driver for this distribution. I can not get proper resolution or 3D on my system. Can any one Help ?
[10:49] <void^> robokop: install a display manager, such as xdm or gdm or kdm
[10:49] <TheVault> ghata1: I can help you with that
[10:49] <erUSUL> robokop: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[10:49] <TheVault> ghata1: You need 915resolution
[10:50] <ghata1> TheVault: it is not just the resolution, and i have tried that already. It does not work
[10:50] <kevlar> find gtkwifi great for roaming wireless
[10:50] <TheVault> ghata1: What are you trying to do?
[10:50] <robokop> erUSUL: no gdm here
[10:51] <asc> covert: I've been reading through that netboot guide, and it looks as though Debian's net-install-with-boot-floppies might be worth looking at, if you're not dead set on using Ubuntu.
[10:51] <ghata1> TheVault: I have WideScreen Monitor. 1680x1050 and using 915 did not work. I need the driver first. No 3D right now on 965G chipset that i have
[10:51] <Sam__> does beryl include xgl and compiz or is it something different
[10:51] <erUSUL> robokop: do as void^ said
[10:51] <Sam__> should I get xgl or beryl
[10:51] <erUSUL> Sam__: beryl runs on top xgl or aiglx
[10:51] <ubuntu__> bhgdjgjhgjg
[10:52] <TheVault> ghata1: Did you set 915resolution properly?
[10:52] <robokop> erUSUL void^: thanks
[10:52] <erUSUL> Sam__: beryl is a fork of compiz
[10:52] <Flannel> Sam__: #ubuntu-effects for Beryl/XGL/et al. support, thanks.
[10:52] <ghata1> TheVault: When i updated to Fiesty, the 3D was avaiable but resolution problem still did not get solved.
[10:52] <administrador> hola
[10:52] <nox-Hand> If I install Ubuntu with the install.exe, is it 100% sure that my Windows will not be affected?
[10:52] <Sam__> so I should just get beryl
[10:52] <administrador> any spanish?
[10:52] <Flannel> !es | administrador
[10:52] <ubotu> administrador: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:52] <TheVault> ghata1: Oh, then I can't help ya cause I'm not sure about whats new in Fiesty.
[10:52] <erUSUL> !es | administrador
[10:52] <ghata1> well i changed the /etc/default/915conf file.
[10:52] <TheVault> can someone help ghata1?
[10:52] <Flannel> ghata1: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[10:53] <TheVault> Thanks Flannel
[10:53] <Howdy125> Help ! .. sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[10:53] <Howdy125> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[10:53] <jpjacobs> nox-Hand, wth... now there is a "windows ubuntu-installer" or what?
[10:53] <ghata1> TheVault: Flannel: I switched back to Edgy as Fiesty was not stable on my system. I was noticing crashes etc and kernel Panic
[10:54] <erUSUL> Howdy125: sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[10:54] <Verithrax> Speaking of beryl... Beryl-core seems to be missing from the herd5 repos.
[10:54] <void^> Verithrax: beryl isn't in feisty.
[10:54] <Howdy125> ty erUSUL  .. I'll try that.
[10:54] <erUSUL> Verithrax: compiz is used in feisty
[10:54] <TheVault> ghata1: Well 915resolution was my problem for the resolution stuff. If you need help, then go to http://absolutebeginner.wordpress.com/2006/08/20/absolute-beginner-guide-915resolution/
[10:54] <Verithrax> void^: Ah. I considered that, but it's odd given how the beryl config app is in the repos.
[10:55] <nox-Hand> jpjacobs: Yes sir
[10:55] <void^> just some leftovers
[10:55] <nox-Hand> jpjacobs: wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
[10:55] <void^> Verithrax: the beryl folks have a working repo online themselves
[10:55] <TheVault> ghata1: Cause I myself I think i have a 945gm chipset
[10:55] <Verithrax> Pity; Compiz won't work on my system under Ubuntu (Although it worked under Fedora)
[10:55] <kuzmaster> !compiz
[10:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:55] <Ohana> can someone please help. ive installed ubuntu using the alternate desktop cd, however i have the same problem: just before xserver is up, my monitor goes blank and i lose keyb/mouse input
[10:55] <kalin> using a super grub boot disk to boot into a fresh ubuntu install i get 'Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7'. As far as i can tell, 0x7 is a ntfs partition, but i'm not sure why the boot disk is trying to load off that, it appears to be selecting the correct partition to boot from, any ideas?
[10:56] <X86echo> I got to set auto spell checking in Konqueror when I type it does not do it anymore anyone know a trick ?
[10:56] <Ohana> can someone tell me how to boot ubuntu from a grub command line that will go straight to console please?
[10:56] <ghata1> TheVault: that is supported in i810 driver
[10:57] <kuzmaster> !Beryl
[10:57] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:57] <asc> Ohana: No, but I have two things that you might try, even if they probably won't work.  You can't switch to a console with ctrl-alt-F1?
[10:57] <TheVault> ghata1: Oh. Well I wish I could help. You said something about resolution problem and the first thing that came to mind was the 915resolution
[10:58] <Ohana> asc: tried that, didnt work unfortunately
[10:58] <ghata1> TheVault: I appreciate mate
[10:58] <Heroin> can somone help me setup a postfix mail server?
[10:58] <Ademan> how does ubuntu work on ppc?   Are there ppc versions of all(or most) of the binary packages? or what?  Do you have to compile all of the packages yourself?
[10:58] <TheVault> ghata1: Thnx. Just trying to be supportive and help as the same people do for me
[10:58] <asc> Ohana: Hit alt-sysreq (same as print screen key)-k.  I find that still works when they keyboard freezes.
[10:59] <asc> If that does work, you might be able to switch to a console then.
[10:59] <TheVault> ghata1: returning the favor is what i'm trying to do
[10:59] <bengb> Hi everyone, I am a beginner to ubuntu and just installed 6.10 via live cd.  documentation has referred to a disk manager in order to partition disks/create more space.  My problem is there is not any Disk Manager nor anything with "Disk" on it via System/Administration.  Any suggestions??
[10:59] <Ohana> asc: ok, ill give that a try. so its alt-sysrq-k... is that right?
[11:00] <asc> Ohana: Yeah.  Hey, I never realised I didn't know how to spell that....
[11:00] <Ohana> asc: lol. also, when this happens, i can't even ctrl-alt-del.... you think ths may work even though that doesnt?
[11:02] <asc> Ohana: I think it *might*.  It seems to bypass the X server; it works for me when nothing else does (even the numlock key).
[11:02] <jpjacobs> bengb: try gparted
[11:02] <Ohana> asc: ok, ill give it a try. you mind if i bug you again in the next 5 mins if it doesnt work? :p
[11:02] <jpjacobs> but there should be some diskmanager thing
[11:03] <asc> Ohana: Sure, but if it doesn't there's probably not a lot I can to to help. :p
[11:03] <Ohana> asc: no worries, ill let you know how i go, thanks again
[11:03] <kalin> is there any way to kill the graphical boot screen?
[11:03] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:03] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:03] <asc> kalin: Once, or permanently?
[11:04] <firefoxman> help! Ubuntu installer is hanging at the partitioning table. I clicked forward twice, and now it is on th e BUSY curser. Been like this for 20 min
[11:04] <hateyla> !install > hateyla
[11:04] <cyphase> *sigh* when will there be a good GUI configuration tool for X in Ubuntu..
[11:04] <kalin> asc, once, either via keyboard command or boot options from live cd boot screen
[11:05] <asc> kalin: switch to a console with control-alt-F1 and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[11:05] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:05] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:06] <orehon>  I have HP dv 2120us. When i plug in my headphone my speakers keep working. How can i fix it?
[11:06] <kalin> hmm, i tried ctrl-alt-f1, but it did not take me to a console
[11:06] <hateyla> cheeseboy: i m new but i would say first try to remove it. then try to install it again
[11:06] <cheeseboy> i did
[11:06] <bengb> jpjacobs, forgive me but what do you mean when u say try gparted? I am a serious newbi both to IRC and linux/ubunto.  I have been windows since 3.1, but can only be described as a user.
[11:07] <sdac221x_> how do i remove the ear-splitting system  beep sound in xubuntu edgy ?   Everytime im on earphones and im working on some document i get this annoying sound.
[11:07] <asc> kalin: Hrm.  Is the screen frozen or something?
[11:07] <kuzmaster> !pastebin
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <covert> erUSUL: SBM doesn't recognize my cd drive
[11:07] <covert> Does anyone know what to do if SBM doesn't recognize the drive?
[11:08] <livingdaylight> Q: can somone help me setup samba?
[11:08] <kalin> it does freeze during startup and usually displays some corrupt loading screen graphics - but since i was busy typing here after a long time it actually made its way into ubuntu successfully but there is no mouse control and gnome has some error during startup
[11:08] <hateyla> !samba > livingdaylight
[11:08] <kalin> trying to figure out how to get into console for now, but ctrl-alt-f1 or f7 doesn't seem to do it
[11:09] <kalin> or ctrl+alt+backspace/esc, i'm sure i used to use something like that once
[11:09] <thak> does anyone know how to change the desktop environment (from xfce to enlightenment, for example)?
[11:09] <livingdaylight> hateyla: i installed swat but where is it?
[11:09] <covert> Does anyone know what to do if SBM doesn't recognize the drive?
[11:09] <erUSUL> covert: what sbm is?
[11:09] <jim> livingdaylight: dpkg --help
[11:10] <Ohana> asc: well.... it didnt work :(
[11:10] <Pollywog> !samba > pollywog
[11:10] <livingdaylight> jim: what?
[11:10] <covert> SmartBootManager...it is supposed to allow you to pick any drive to boot frome
[11:10] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:10] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:10] <covert> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:10] <asc> kalin: Heh, you're the second person in five minutes I wish I had a spare machine to test this on.  If you kit alt-sysrq-k, it should (hopefully) kill the display, and then might let you switch to a console.
[11:10] <asc> *hit
[11:10] <asc> Ohana: Did it do anything at all?
[11:11] <jim> livingdaylight: you just asked a question... running the command will give you a partial answer in addition to whicyh
[11:11] <recon39> can someone help me add to the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:11] <jim> you will see all the little things dpkg can dop
[11:11] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:11] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:11] <Ohana> asc: well.... i tried it before and after the problem occurs. if i did it after the screen dies, nothing. same prob. if i did it before: the startup process halts, but we blank screen again
[11:11] <livingdaylight> jim: what does dpkg have to do with swat?
[11:12] <Ohana> asc: it obviously does SOMETHING... just not what i hoped it would do :(
[11:12] <jim> did it come from a package?
[11:12] <recon39> i am trying to get a dvd to play and need to add to a /etc/apt/sources.list file
[11:12] <livingdaylight> Can someone actually help me with samba and dont' give me !samba and all that coz it is goobledeegook to me
[11:12] <recon39> help me please
[11:12] <jim> think things through... it's good for you
[11:12] <kuzmaster> eh eh eh eh... i seem to be having troubles with my sources.list (my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10823/)
[11:12] <livingdaylight> i need a samba guru, who can walk me through
[11:12] <Ohana> asc: i was speaking to someone else about this yesterday and they thought that i would need to reconfigure my xserver. if i could just get to the console, i might be able to fix this
[11:13] <asc> Ohana: Hrm.
[11:13] <kuzmaster> when ever i do sudo apt-get update i get this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10822/
[11:13] <jim> why would one be here? what about #samba?
[11:13] <kuzmaster> alot of 404's
[11:13] <kuzmaster> :(
[11:13] <quaal> anyone know of a guide that explains the chmod command. i just did chmod 777 on my new drive's mountpoint but i have no idea what 777 means
[11:13] <livingdaylight> jim: wtf has dpkg to do with swat?
[11:13] <orehon>  I have HP dv 2120us. When i plug in my headphone my speakers keep working. How can i fix it?
[11:13] <livingdaylight> Yea, Anyone can go !samba
[11:13] <asc> Anybody know if there's a GRUB option to boot to runlevel 1 instead of 2?
[11:13] <jim> did swat come from installing a package? yes or no
[11:13] <livingdaylight> does anyonen know something about samba?
[11:13] <orehon> livingdaylight: i am trying to configure it! :P
[11:13] <recon39> does anyone know how to get a dvd to play on ubuntu
[11:13] <Lynoure> !anyone | livingdaylight
[11:13] <ubotu> livingdaylight: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:13] <hexidigital> !anyone > livingdaylight
[11:14] <jim> if YES and the question is WHERE IS SWAT, dpkg can tell you.
[11:14] <jim> you don't need a guru for that
[11:14] <air0day> Anyone here familiar with how to use Groovy as a unix scripting language?
[11:14] <kalin> Ohana, my bootup eventually went through to X after leaving it for a very long time, but froze within here
[11:14] <livingdaylight> orehon: i asked my real question, if you only bothered to read it
[11:14] <asc> Ohana: Do you have access to the drive it's booting from, right now?  Can you access the files?
[11:14] <Sam__> should I get beryl or just xgl
[11:15] <Ohana> kalin: sounds like we're having the same troubles
[11:15] <brokenbin> hi guys
[11:15] <livingdaylight> orehon: sorry, i am trying to configure it too
[11:15] <brokenbin> how do you install ubuntu from harddrive
[11:15] <kalin> yeah, i managed to boot from th super grub boot disk now
[11:15] <brokenbin> i have read stuff on the net
[11:15] <brokenbin> but they don't seem to work
[11:15] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: please do not do that
[11:15] <kalin> it got to drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c, v2.6:USB HID core driver
[11:15] <Ohana> asc: not really, im dual booting xp :( unless you know of a way to acess a linux partition from xp...
[11:15] <livingdaylight> !anyone | Lynoure
[11:15] <kalin> then it hung for about 4min
[11:15] <ubotu> Lynoure: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:16] <orehon> livingdaylight: first i need to fix my sound driver
[11:16] <Flare183> can't stay bye
[11:16] <livingdaylight> orehon: do you know how to configure this samba
[11:16] <jim> Sam__: fvwm2 or mwm or twm or sawfish or enlightenment or scwm or windowmaker or ... (lots more, pick one, try it)
[11:16] <recon39> am I in the wrong room for help on ubuntu?
[11:16] <Ohana> asc: im doing a google atm on how to boot runlevel1 w/ grub
[11:16] <kalin> and now it dropped to a (initramfs) shell with '/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off'
[11:16] <asc> Ohana: It's possible, but I don't know how to do it.
[11:16] <orehon> livingdaylight: no too much... but you can find a lot of tutorials at google.com
[11:16] <brokenbin> anyone?
[11:16] <skull> Sam_ well both :>
[11:16] <air0day> how do I make the whole #!/usr/bin/env shebang work for shell scripts? it can't seem to find executables i need...
[11:16] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: ok, I get it, you do not want to be helped.
[11:16] <kalin> Ohana, i have xp on primary drive and ubuntu on a secondary drive, is your configuration similar?
[11:17] <bruce1354> can browse from my root directory to files and folders on a network server?
[11:17] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: no you don't get it you moron
[11:17] <Ohana> kalin: my primary is partitioned: 10gb to xp and 10gb to linux
[11:17] <jim> orehon: s/he is evidently unwilling to help himself, and is also fairly hostile as well
[11:17] <livingdaylight> !anyone | Lynoure anyone can do that
[11:17] <hexidigital> livingdaylight:  that's not necessary
[11:17] <ubotu> Lynoure anyone can do that: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:18] <kalin> hmm, ok, i'm wondering if my input devices are causing a problem, the g15 keyboard seems to be detected ok, and i think the g5 mouse is, i'm not sure what input device it seems to be hanging on
[11:18] <recon39> 8-)
[11:18] <livingdaylight> hexidigital: i'm frustrated especially with people like Lynoure who give their !anyone commands
[11:18] <kalin> i thought maybe it was the USB portable drive too
[11:18] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: You clearly have a bigger problem with me than with samba, I hope you solve both
[11:18] <hexidigital> livingdaylight:  ask more specific questions....
[11:18] <air0day> /usr/bin/env doesn't seem to work for me in the first line of scripts - how do i fix it?
[11:18] <wazzles> i can't get on my wpa encrypted access point; i just got ubuntu installed
[11:18] <BigLebowskiMac> livingdaylight: As i imagine it's frustrating to be asked vague questions all the time
[11:19] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[11:19] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: I would have helped you with samba, but understandably not anymore.
[11:19] <recon39> help me please!
[11:19] <livingdaylight> hexidigital: specifically, i need help setting up samba full stop. i dont know where the guis are or how to configure
[11:19] <BigLebowskiMac> livingdaylight: the support is free, people offer up their own time to help people, if you cant be bothered to form a good question, why should they help
[11:19] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i do to all of my internet conenctions going through my privoxy tor proxy?
[11:19] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: you never were going to otherwise you would have instead you gave me your !anyone command
[11:19] <sirwilliam> do you guys know if amd turion64 mobile proc should be considered athlon-xp athlon-mp athlon64 or k8??  trying to configure apt-build btw...
[11:20] <livingdaylight> BigLebowskiMac: if someone really wanted to help they could ask. As it is i have been specific.
[11:20] <air0day> hey can you take a quick break from arguing with each other and help me real quick? i think it's probably an easy fix
[11:20] <recon39> am I in the wrong room for help with ubuntu setup?
[11:20] <jim> livingdaylight: if you take out your frustrations on a channel full of people who might otherwise have been willing to help you and THEN you are seen by all these helpers calling someone a moron, why in HELL should anyone help you now? (unless you are prepared to pay their rate for consultation of course)
[11:20] <BigLebowskiMac> livingdaylight: You don't think describing the problem as apposed to 'anyone know anything about samba'  would help?
[11:20] <Ohana> asc: i think ive figured it out
[11:20] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: I only anyone people I could possibly help. But, well, I'll stop wasting my time on you
[11:20] <asc> Ohana and kalin: It looks like to boot to a runlevel you just add the number to the beginning of the kernel boot line.  You'll want to boot to runlevel 1, in order to not start X.  Information from here: http://www.fedorafaq.org/basics/ ; hopefully it's distro independent.
[11:20] <BigLebowskiMac> livingdaylight: Also, i would attempt to help, but i have never had the need to set up samba
[11:21] <Ohana> asc: i was just about to say that! :p
[11:21] <livingdaylight> BigLebowski i have posed my question regarding samba several times in differnt ways
[11:21] <Ohana> asc: i just found that in google
[11:21] <Ohana> asc: ill try and report in ;)
[11:21] <asc> Ohana: So who wins the race? :)
[11:21] <jim> but I digress... assuming you keep your frustration (something you built up in your own mind) to yourself, someone will be along shortly
[11:21] <recon39> can anyone help me
[11:21] <sirwilliam> i'm trying to configure apt-build...do you guys know if amd turion64 mobile proc should be considered athlon-xp athlon-mp athlon64 or k8??
[11:21] <Ohana> asc: bah, you take the medal, you've been a big help. ill let you know how i go
[11:21] <air0day> god. this channel is such a waste of time
[11:21] <asc> Ohana: good luck.
[11:22] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: please stop it. You have really winded me up with your ! command. I have been very clear i need help with samba, configuring settging up the whole 9yards.
[11:22] <livingdaylight> jim: wow...
[11:22] <asc> kalin, you catch that?
[11:23] <kalin> yep thx :)
[11:23] <jim> livingdaylight: getting the picture yet? :)
[11:23] <asc> Righto.
[11:23] <kalin> trying it now from the live install disc
[11:23] <recon39> livingdaylight can you help me get a dvd player set up need to add libdvdcss to ubuntu
[11:23] <jim> either be nice to the volunteers or hire someone
[11:23] <livingdaylight> recon39: sure
[11:23] <recon39> thank you
[11:23] <BigLebowskiMac> recon39: look at restrictedformats on the wiki
[11:23] <kalin> well that's neat, it started the graphical bootup and i hit alt-sysrq-k and it drew a nice green line across the center of the screen
[11:24] <livingdaylight> recon39: go to ubuntuguide.org and scroll down to adding libdvdcss
[11:24] <recon39> I have looked at them
[11:24] <mbac> developers developers developers developers
[11:24] <livingdaylight> recon39: i think it is sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[11:24] <asc> Well that's something. :p
[11:24] <livingdaylight> jim: are you enjoying yourself at my expense?
[11:24] <kalin> indeed lol
[11:24] <lisapc> my download speed is 1.59 MB/s (1632 KB/s).  Is that good?
[11:24] <BigLebowskiMac> You may need to add repos, not sure
[11:24] <asc> I mean, you can't argue with green.
[11:25] <kalin> yeah, it was a particularly nice hue
[11:25] <asc> lisapc: Yes, that's good.
[11:25] <recon39> ok I read where i need to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list this line here deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[11:25] <recon39> but I dont know how to add it
[11:25] <livingdaylight> jim: i asked plenty of times before Lynoure vexed me and i called him a moron which was personal to him. Ofcourse i didn't hear from you before..
[11:25] <mrbrdo> anyone knows anything about this error "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode"? i'm getting it while trying to run video4linux (v4l-conf) or xawtv.. so tv tuner related
[11:26] <mrbrdo> i use nvidia's drivers from envy
[11:26] <linuxnewbie755> i just upgraded from dsl to charter cable, and it doesnt work with my dapper drake, but works fine on this windows pc. why?
[11:26] <asc> kalin: Hmm, okay.  You're trying to boot from the desktop install CD?
[11:26] <mrbrdo> and direct rendering works.. and i'm not using beryl at the moment
[11:26] <BigLebowskiMac> recon: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:26] <dmitri> hello, how can i use apt to install some program if i already have the .deb packages?
[11:26] <mrbrdo> dmitri: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:26] <BigLebowskiMac> dmitri: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[11:26] <mrbrdo> lol.
[11:26] <BigLebowskiMac> Damnit, got beat :P
[11:26] <linuxnewbie755> my dapper drake box worked fine with the dsl, but isn't working at all with this cable.
[11:27] <livingdaylight> jim: i think samba is a hot-potato no one reall wants to help with coz its complicated
[11:27] <asc> dmitri: put the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives and do what they said.
[11:27] <mrbrdo> asc: there's no need for that
[11:27] <linuxnewbie755> dmitri, can't you just install the .deb by clicking on it?
[11:27] <BigLebowskiMac> why would he need to put the package in the apt cache?
[11:27] <razzorz> is there a way for ati capture card tro work with ubuntu..
[11:27] <livingdaylight> jim: so now you have a good excuse because i called your cousin a moron
[11:27] <recon39> ok thanks
[11:27] <dmitri> mrbrdo: BigLebowski no, I want to use the apt-get install mozilla for example
[11:28] <asc> mrbro: News to me, but my system's a little screwy.  Presumably they have to be in the current directory, then?
[11:28] <BigLebowskiMac> dmitri: what's wrong with using dpkg if you already have the .deb?
[11:28] <asc> *mrbrdo
[11:28] <mrbrdo> dmitri: if you have the deb package downloaded, then you must use dpkg and not apt-get
[11:28] <asc> Oh, dpkg/apt, never mind.
[11:28] <void^> livingdaylight: if you need generic samba help you might want to try #samba or ask a specific question here
[11:28] <livingdaylight> i asked for help with samba but no one wants to help but when i call someone a moron suddenly everyone has wise words abouthow they were just about to help me but now they won't and how my quesiton is not clear. Common Guys!
[11:28] <mrbrdo> dmitri: if you want to install a package from the ubuntu repos then just use apt-get install whatever
[11:28] <livingdaylight> void^: i need ubuntu samba help
[11:29] <void^> livingdaylight: interesting.
[11:29] <dmitri> I know but I have 2 cds of packages and the packages are named different
[11:29] <dmitri> you understend?
[11:29] <livingdaylight> void^: besides they'll just give me more websites to look at
[11:29] <kalin> asc, yeah, live install cd.. it seems to have booted into it now, but it's in the install-mode, not from the drive
[11:29] <mrbrdo> dmitri: dpkg -i each package..
[11:29] <dmitri> I try to put them on /var/cache/apt/archives/ but still not working
[11:29] <razzorz> anyone?
[11:29] <linuxnewbie755> anyone use charter internet with dapper?
[11:29] <asc> kalin: Oh, we can work with that.  Shiny.
[11:29] <mrbrdo> dmitri: are you trying to do an offline update\install of some sort?
[11:29] <hateyla> Where i can found Vlc And mplayer?
[11:29] <dmitri> exact
[11:29] <kalin> it is shiny
[11:29] <BigLebowskiMac> dimitri: you still haven't said whats wrong with just installing with dpkg?
[11:29] <briguyd> hateyla, have you installed them?
[11:30] <orehon>  I have HP dv 2120us. When i plug in my headphone my speakers keep working. How can i fix it?
[11:30] <BigLebowskiMac> And if its on the cd, you could add the cd to sources.list
[11:30] <mrbrdo> dmitri: check around the ubuntu wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com type offline update or something like that, maybe only offline
[11:30] <wazzles> is there any way to get wpa to work out of the box in ubuntu 6.10?
[11:30] <hateyla> briguyd:  want to download them..
[11:30] <briguyd> hateyla, "sudo apt-get install mplayer vlc"
[11:30] <briguyd> in the terminal
[11:30] <briguyd> or you could use synaptic
[11:30] <firefoxman> Help. I am installing xubuntu, it freezis when I tell it to resize the partition table to 40%.
[11:31] <asc> kalin: You'll want to mount the partition that Ubuntu is installed on somewhere.  something like 'mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/ubuntu-partition /mnt/ubuntu'
[11:31] <dmitri> BIgLebowski for example I want to install mozilla, I am shure that I have the .deb package but in hundred packages I dont know witch it is and maybe it needs some depencies
[11:31] <dmitri> understend?
[11:31] <shadowhywind> anyone have any ideas why nvidia drivers will work on external monitor and not on my laptop monitors?
[11:31] <hateyla> briguyd:  something problem..
[11:31] <hateyla> Package vlc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:31] <hateyla> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:31] <hateyla> is only available from another source
[11:31] <hateyla> E: Package vlc has no installation candidate
[11:31] <poningru> hateyla: please dont paste
[11:31] <BigLebowskiMac> ahh, add the cdrom
[11:32] <hateyla> poningru:  sorry
[11:32] <BigLebowskiMac> apt-cdrom add
[11:32] <BigLebowskiMac> i believe
[11:32] <BigLebowskiMac> And then apt-get update
[11:32] <BigLebowskiMac> you should be able to install the packages then
[11:32] <dmitri> BigLebowski something like that :)
[11:32] <bayziders> In kde how do you manage start up programs?
[11:33] <kalin> asc, is mount /dev/sdb -t ext3 /mnt/ubuntu valid?
[11:33] <jonathan_> hola q tal
[11:33] <briguyd> is VLC in universe?
[11:33] <firefoxman> Help. I am installing xubuntu, it freezis when I tell it to resize the partition table to 40%. This happens wheter I am installing ubuntu, xubuntu, or kubuntu
[11:33] <ardchoille> bayziders: I haven't used kde in a while but I think it's ~/.kde/config/startup os some such.
[11:33] <jonathan_> alguien habla espaol
[11:33] <briguyd> hateyla, i think you have to enable some extra repositories
[11:33] <kalin> it syas 'wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb'
[11:33] <xtknight> !es | jonathan_
[11:33] <ubotu> jonathan_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:33] <hateyla> briguyb : how ?
[11:33] <bayziders> It isn't grahpical like in gnome?
[11:33] <hateyla> briguyd:  i m Newbie
[11:33] <jonathan_> gracias
[11:33] <asc> kalin: sounds like it should work, though you can probably exclude the -t ext3; it should be able to detect fs type.
[11:34] <mbac> kalin, mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /mnt/ubuntu ?
[11:34] <xtknight> kalin: sdb is not a partition
[11:34] <briguyd> hateyla, try "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:34] <BigLebowskiMac> Yes vlc is in universe
[11:34] <mbac> to me it looks like you have the options in the wrong order
[11:34] <kalin> ah, i was wondering that, i'll try sdb1 :)
[11:34] <hateyla> briguyd:  then?
[11:34] <briguyd> hateyla, then uncomment the lines having to do with the universe repositories
[11:34] <firefoxman> Help...
[11:34] <asc> Ooh, yeah.  sdb1 or something.
[11:34] <void^> livingdaylight: i've grep'd the log for your samba question. why not use system->administration->shared folders to set up a simple share? if you want to access it from windows without using a password you have to set "security = share" in smb.conf. i think that about covers your question, as far as i can see.
[11:34] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: with what, exactly?
[11:34] <xtknight> kalila: unless you have some freak partition table.  but 99.999999% of the time you'll want sdbx where x is the partition number
[11:34] <asc> ./slap self
[11:34] <mbac>  /dev/sdb COULD be a partition ;)
[11:34] <briguyd> hateyla, (by uncomment, I mean remove the "#")
[11:34] <xtknight> mbac: beat you to that
[11:34] <xtknight> :D
[11:34] <kalin> yeah, sdb1 worked
[11:34] <firefoxman> BigLebowskiMac: I am installing xubuntu, it freezis when I tell it to resize the partition table to 40%.
[11:35] <kalin> hurrah, now i can hax the files
[11:35] <mbac> *sigh* let me just give up
[11:35] <firefoxman> The installer.
[11:35] <livingdaylight> void^: coz i know nothing about setting up and using samba ^^
[11:35] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: I'm not sure what to suggest, other than do it manually with fdisk, unless you're trying to resize an ntfs partition
[11:35] <firefoxman> It is a NFTS
[11:35] <bayziders> well how do you do it in gnome?
[11:36] <firefoxman> Is that a problem?
[11:36] <Sebboh> I want to create a dummy package that "provides" evolution.  How do I do that, or something else that will achieve the same goal?  (I want to keep ubuntu-desktop installed but not evolution...)
[11:36] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: in which case it may be bad blocks on the ntfs partition, etc, too full, etc.
[11:36] <firefoxman> Only using 50 gb of a 111 gb disk
[11:36] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: try doing a chkdsk and defrag, see if that helps, and make sure atleast 40% of it is free.
[11:36] <oopsy> can someone help me out?
[11:36] <void^> livingdaylight: i don't see why you'd have to know about setting up samba when using a shiny gui for it.
[11:36] <firefoxman> So, what should I do??
[11:36] <asc> kalin: Now we just need to know how to disable gdm without breaking things.  One way would be to 'gedit /mnt/ubuntu/etc/inittab' and change the fourth line to 'id:1:initdefault:', but there's probably a better way.
[11:36] <BigLebowskiMac> oopsy: with what?
[11:36] <oopsy> BigLebowskiMac
[11:36] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: see my above comments, that would be the first step, the second being manual partition with fdisk.
[11:37] <oopsy> my pc won't boot in ubuntu
[11:37] <aedes> has anyone gotten a usb2ps2 connector to work?
[11:37] <hateyla> briguyd:  yeah i edit and save the file now ?
[11:37] <BigLebowskiMac> oopsy: thats a little vague, what's happening when you try?
[11:37] <oopsy> it just sits there, in Configuring Network interfaces
[11:37] <firefoxman> So, I just defrag?
[11:37] <livingdaylight> void^:  well, i mean i didn't even know that was a gui i could use for that. :( NOw i've found it :) and wondering how to set it up so i can access windows
[11:37] <briguyd> hateyla, "sudo apt-get install mplayer vlc"
[11:37] <Sebboh> aedes, I've done that for a mouse, but not a keyboard.
[11:37] <oopsy> with no "ok" confirmation
[11:37] <hateyla> ok
[11:37] <oopsy> then it switches from graphical boot screen to plain text
[11:37] <oopsy> and stays that way
[11:37] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: Yeah, defrag then chkdsk, if the problem persists, try using fdisk.
[11:37] <aedes> Sebboh: was it automatically recognized?
[11:37] <hateyla> briguyd:  still same error
[11:38] <mbac> has anyone developed an open source alternative to mathematica?
[11:38] <asc> kalin: Um, I've never tried it, but if you 'apt-get install sysv-rc-conf' then 'chroot /mnt/ubuntu sysv-rc-conf' it might work correctly and let you edit startup services for the installed copy.
[11:38] <firefoxman> thx
[11:38] <briguyd> hateyla, hmm
[11:38] <briguyd> hateyla, i have to go, im sorry, you're going to have to ask someone else
[11:38] <firefoxman> Thanks, BigLebowskiMac!
[11:38] <kalin> asc, hmm, there appears to be no inittab file there
[11:38] <Sebboh> aedes, uh, I don't know what you mean by automatically recognized.  ..Well, yes, I guess so.  I've never had a ps2 mouse fail to be recognized..
[11:38] <firefoxman> I will try that.
[11:38] <BigLebowskiMac> firefoxman: hope that helps.
[11:38] <livingdaylight> void^: so, i've added a shared folder
[11:38] <hateyla> briguyd: : np man thanks :)
[11:38] <briguyd> can someone help hateyla install VLC and mplayer?
[11:38] <oopsy> BigLewboskiMac, any ideas?
[11:38] <asc> kalin: Okay, that's... um, interesting.
[11:39] <aedes> Sebboh: I've got things plugged in, but the kernel isn't creating any devices and dmesg doesn't say anything about it
[11:39] <BigLebowskiMac> oopsy: Try booting from the livecd, mount your ubuntu partition, and comment out the lines in /etc/network/interfaces, then try booting and see if you can fix, only thing i can think of, i never had that problem
[11:39] <Sebboh> hum
[11:39] <asc> kalin: Does the directory /mnt/ubuntu/etc exist?
[11:39] <Sebboh> dunno aedes
[11:39] <BigLebowskiMac> I'll brb, gotta get a drink
[11:39] <livingdaylight> void^: i've left comment out
[11:39] <ardchoille> hateyla: I installed mplayer with: sudo apt-get install mplayer mplayer-fonts
[11:40] <kalin> asc, yeah, most things appear to be there - init.d and other things that look normal (i dont know linux filesystem all that well though)
[11:40] <oopsy> how do I mount my ubuntu partition BigLebowskiMac?
[11:40] <xtknight> Sebboh: i believe what you want is called  a "virtual package"  perhaps ask #debian  http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html#s-virtual_pkg
[11:40] <hateyla> ardchoille:  not going install here.
[11:40] <ferronica> my ubuntu 6.06 LTS never show me correct time what i do????
[11:40] <BigLebowskiMac> oopsy, mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/ubuntu
[11:40] <asc> kalin: Hum, it looks as though there's no inittab in Edgy.  I've been doing upgrades since breezy, so I guess mine is a leftover.
[11:40] <BigLebowskiMac> brb
[11:40] <ardchoille> !mplayer
[11:40] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[11:40] <hateyla> ehmm damn i aint update the apt-get :>
[11:40] <ardchoille> hateyla: Did you enable the multiverse repo?
[11:41] <oopsy> thanks
[11:41] <Sebboh> thank you xtknight
[11:41] <hateyla> ya
[11:41] <kalin> asc, well, i suppose that's better than a missing file :)
[11:41] <linuxnewbie755> is there any reason my dapper install shouldn't work with charter cable? it worked fine with dsl, and right now the cable works fine on this windows machine.
[11:41] <xtknight> Sebboh: actually you could just add something to your debian status file to fake it into thinking it has a virtual package installed, without the need for an actual deb at all
[11:41] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:41] <ardchoille> hateyla: What does it say when you try to install it?
[11:41] <hateyla> ardchoille:  well i forget to update apt.
[11:41] <cheeseboy> how do i fix?
[11:41] <ardchoille> hateyla: lol
[11:41] <hateyla> ardchoille:  now i update it maybe now it will be fine
[11:41] <livingdaylight> void^: where in the smb.conf do i put "security=share" ?
[11:41] <asc> kalin: I'll work on that.  Edgy uses a different system... try the sysv-rc-conf thing for now.
[11:42] <void^> livingdaylight: you don't need samba/a shared folder to access a share on your windows box. you should be able to browse windows shares on your network with nautilus out of the box (sorry, i'm a little occupied here)
[11:42] <ardchoille> hateyla: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer mplayer-fonts
[11:42] <Ohana> asc: well, i got to console...
[11:42] <ardchoille> hateyla: I think it will
[11:42] <xtknight> where is the master debian status/control file that contains all the package names and version/dependencies/etc information?
[11:42] <livingdaylight> void^: will i also be able to print from either computer?
[11:42] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:42] <cheeseboy> how do i fix?
[11:42] <void^> livingdaylight: it should have commented out line with security = user, just modify that (and the ;)
[11:42] <hateyla> ardchoille:  can i paste ya in pm
[11:42] <BrendanM> Ok, so for some reason touching near the bottom of my touchpad makes firefox navigate forward/backward. This feature is really annoying. Anyone know how to turn it off?
[11:42] <helfrez> dang feisty keeps geting stuk at 90% installing
[11:42] <cheeseboy> help
[11:42] <ardchoille> hateyla: Sure
[11:42] <Ohana> asc: and i was able to use the command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:43] <Ohana> asc:
[11:43] <devtrash> BrendanM: what touchpad?
[11:43] <kalin> asc, sysv-rc-conf has no installation candidate (but is referred to by another package), perhaps it has been removed too?
[11:43] <Ohana> asc: but i get an error when i finish configuring
[11:43] <lolole> hi
[11:43] <BrendanM> laptop touchpad, it's synaptics
[11:43] <void^> livingdaylight: yes, you can print to samba printers.. but due to the nature of the smb protocol you need to setup the printer with drivers as if it was a local printer.. read the wiki about that.
[11:43] <lolole> is there a mac-os-x equivalent for wine?
[11:43] <lolole> or a mac os X emulator
[11:43] <BrendanM> devtrash, I have qsynaptics installed and I disabled horizontal scrolling
[11:43] <xtknight> Sebboh:  gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:43] <devtrash> BrendanM: look in your xorg.conf file should be a setting in there
[11:43] <asc> kalin: gah.
[11:43] <BrendanM> devtrash, it's only in FF
[11:43] <devtrash> BrendanM: hmmmmm odd
[11:43] <kalin> lolole, i think some people have managed to get macosx running on a VM
[11:44] <asc> Ohana: When you try to start GDM, or does the configuration tool itself break?
[11:44] <BrendanM> devtrash, I think it's a FF feature somewhere
[11:44] <cheeseboy> im trying to install vmware server but get  A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:44] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:44] <zach> how do I configure X
[11:44] <linuxnewbie755> does ANYONE use charter internet? with dapper?
[11:44] <lolole> kalin, ah i see... thing is i don't have mac os ;)
[11:44] <BigLebowskiMac> cheeseboy, remove the previous installation?
[11:44] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755, i did
[11:44] <kalin> lolole, i hear the OS image is on the internets :)
[11:44] <Sebboh> xtknight, cool!  Thanks!
[11:44] <cheeseboy> BigLebowskiMac , yes
[11:45] <Ohana> asc: the tool itself breaks as far as i can tel. this is the error: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.[random numbers]
[11:45] <xtknight> Sebboh: you know how to add a virtual pkg there?
[11:45] <zach> how do I configure X
[11:45] <jrib> zach: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <cheeseboy> Help!
[11:46] <jrib> !helpme | cheeseboy
[11:46] <ubotu> cheeseboy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:46] <BigLebowskiMac> cheeseboy: try apt-get remove <packagename>
[11:46] <asc> Ohana: That sounds okay - it's just saying that you're making a new configuration.
[11:46] <Sebboh> xtknight, I think so.  The document you linked to has a lot of information.
[11:46] <BigLebowskiMac> Cheeseboy: if it still fails, sudo dpkg -P <packagename>
[11:46] <Ohana> asc: hmm... yet it still blanks on me
[11:46] <Ohana> asc: its literally just like if someone were to unplug my monitor
[11:47] <asc> Ohana: Um, interesting.  This happens when you start gdm?
[11:47] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, did you have to do anything extra?
[11:47] <Ohana> asc: like it has no signal. its not like the screen just turns black. it literally is not being sent any signal from my pc
[11:47] <ab12> hello!
[11:47] <dg10050> is "apt-get clean" safe? It just removes cached packages, right?
[11:47] <Ohana> asc: here's a noobie question. whats GDM?
[11:47] <ab12> what's the repo name that include package skype
[11:47] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755, no
[11:47] <BigLebowskiMac> dg10050: yes.
[11:48] <dg10050> ok
[11:48] <dg10050> thx
[11:48] <asc> Ohana: gnome display manager.  The graphical login screen.
[11:48] <cheeseboy> -p isnt working
[11:48] <Ohana> asc: and whats the console command to load that?
[11:48] <asc> ohana: sudo gdm
[11:48] <livingdaylight> void^: i can't find security=user  in teh smb.conf
[11:48] <livingdaylight> Ohana: do you know samba?
[11:48] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, i don't get it. my box worked fine with bellsouth dsl, but won't work at all with this charter. i don't understand why. maybe because i disabled ipv6, i am just downloading 6.10 right now, going to start from their. any ideas?
[11:48] <Ohana> asc: well i spose ill give that a try too
[11:48] <asc> Ohana: I can't imagine any reason it would blank while you're at a console.
[11:48] <Ohana> livingdaylight: probably not enough to be of any real help :(
[11:49] <BigLebowskiMac> cheeseboy, uppercase P
[11:49] <cheeseboy> i did
[11:49] <cheeseboy> im still gettin sme error
[11:49] <asc> khana: Well, Edgy doesn't have sysv-rc-conf either.  Fascinatin'.
[11:49] <Ohana> asc: it doesnt blank while in console. only just as xserver or gdm (i dont know which one) Is about to load
[11:49] <asc> *khalin
[11:49] <asc> *kalin
[11:49] <kaiden> Anyone else experienced this problem with the nVidia Drivers to where they will work fine, except if you ctrl+alt+f1 etc out to a different tty you can't get back into X (it freezes when you ctrl+alt+f7) then when you reboot you get errors everytime you start X until you reinstall the nvidia driver?
[11:49] <asc> ./slap self again
[11:49] <xtknight> asc: sure it does
[11:49] <xtknight> !info sysv-rc-conf | asc
[11:49] <xtknight> :)
[11:49] <ubotu> asc: sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[11:50] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 , you can always get a router
[11:50] <asc> xtknight: Then why is there no installation candidate for kalin?
[11:50] <xtknight> asc: no idea
[11:50] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, well, i tried directly to the modem, didn't work, i tried through a switch, (works fine for this windows machine, modem and switch). i have an old dsl router thing, would that do it?
[11:50] <xtknight> kalin: what version of ubuntu and what architecture?
[11:50] <Ohana> asc: ill try sudo gdm and report
[11:50] <firefoxman> Help.
[11:51] <asc> Ohana: It'l most likely break in the same way.
[11:51] <firefoxman> I have norton GoBack installed, will it not work with linux?
[11:51] <kalin> xtknight, 6.10 desktop, x86
[11:51] <xtknight> sysv..rc installs fine here
[11:51] <xtknight> hmm
[11:51] <jrib> firefoxman: ask norton
[11:51] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 , is internet just not working?
[11:51] <firefoxman> how
[11:51] <kalin> xtknight, strange
[11:51] <asc> xtknight: Yeah, me either.  I've been upgrading; I figured that it might be a leftover, like my inittab file.
[11:51] <cheeseboy> or you not getting connected?
[11:51] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, on this windows, working fine, but hasn't worked at all with my linux box.
[11:52] <purpleplether> i'm having trouble
[11:52] <firefoxman> also computer will not let me run chkdisk
[11:52] <slipttees> OSx86 Development Platform CPU: Intel Pentium D 2.80GHz @ 2.8GHz [SSE3/PAE/XD/EM64T/DualCore]  L2 Cache: 1024K FSB: 200MHz RAM: 351.5MB/512.0MB Virtual: 543.69M/1024.00M Disk: 57.4GB/113.69GB Display: GeForce FX 5200 [256 MB/CI/QE/Q2DE/Natit]  1024x768@60Hz OS: Mac OS X 10.4.8 (8L2127) Kernel: Darwin 8.8.1 Net: [en0/In: 205.99MB/Out: 8.25MB]  Uptime:
[11:52] <slipttees> 2:16
[11:52] <jrib> firefoxman: http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/support/index.jsp
[11:52] <kkrusty> Im having some problems with apt-get update, there are a couple of "404 not found" and one with "public key not found".
[11:52] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755, usb or ethernet?
[11:52] <peija-kas> slipttees no posts like that here plz
[11:52] <firefoxman> !pastebin | slipttees
[11:52] <linuxnewbie755> ethernet on both
[11:52] <ubotu> slipttees: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:52] <c01100011> happy st pats day everyone, i have a peculiar problem. T60p installed 686-smp kernel (apt-get install  linux-68....) rebooted, it isn't in the grub menu. Did a grub-update, still not there. tried all options there doing uname-r they are all what they say they are (not 686-smp)
[11:53] <purpleplether> everytime i download something from the synaptic package manager, i can never find it
[11:53] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, do you know if charter uses/requires ipv6?
[11:53] <void^> livingdaylight: pastebin your smb.conf
[11:53] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 , and otherstuff has worked on that ethernet port on linux?
[11:53] <asc> kalin: Eh, run synaptic.  Go to settings->repositories->Ubuntu 6.10 and make sure all the boxes are checked.
[11:53] <kalin> hmm, i can't see how to change the default runlevel without inittab
[11:53] <jrib> firefoxman: note that the system requirements do not list linux, but do list various windows version
[11:53] <kkrusty> does anyone know whether the media.blutkind.org repository is working?
[11:53] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, yes, bellsouth dsl, i spent forever trying to disable ipv6, because it made dsl slow, now im thinking maybe charter needs it to work.
[11:53] <asc> universe should be checked by default I think, but maybe it isn't for some reason.
[11:54] <matthew_> what is a good spam filter for Linux that will work with thunderbird?
[11:54] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, you using charter and dapper now?
[11:54] <kane77> is there any benchmarking utility?
[11:54] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 , im on charter on edgy now
[11:55] <jpjacobs> kane77, apt-cache search bench
[11:55] <asc> kalin: after doing that, but 'reload' in the main window and search for sysv-rc-conf
[11:55] <asc> *hit
[11:55] <kalin> yeap, dling package info now
[11:55] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, well, im downloading that right now, 370k a sec (so fast compared to dsl), almost finished, i'll see what a fresh install does. (booting off the live disk should work shouldn't it?)
[11:56] <lolole> is there a floor plan designer for linux?
[11:56] <Ohana> asc: sudo gdm.... same problem :(
[11:56] <antotos> hi all from Italy
[11:56] <asc> kalin: If we're really lucky it may just be that your package list was unhappy.
[11:56] <livingdaylight> void^: thank you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10827/
[11:56] <lolole> or some architecture design program
[11:56] <jpjacobs> lolole, try qcad/xfig with their libraries
[11:56] <asc> Ohana: Yeah, you probably need to get a working xorg configuration before starting GDM.
[11:56] <cheeseboy> linuxnewbie755 ya if your internet works on the livecd ull be fine
[11:56] <Ohana> asc: im thinking of trying to reinstalling using vmware to test this as opposed to rebooting all the time
[11:56] <purpleplether> everytime i download something from the synaptic package manager, i can never find it......can anyone help
[11:56] <lolole> jpjacobs, ah ok thaks
[11:57] <asc> Ohana: Are you by any change using an ATI video card?
[11:57] <cheeseboy> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.
[11:57] <cheeseboy> Failure
[11:57] <cheeseboy> Execution aborted.
[11:57] <aild> what program can I use to create a torrent file... someone know?
[11:57] <void^> livingdaylight: line 91, remove ; and replace user with share
[11:57] <Ohana> asc: yeah i am
[11:57] <cheeseboy> how do i fix it?
[11:57] <Ohana> asc: ati radeon x800se
[11:57] <asc> Ohana: Oh, well in that case we can just blame everything on ATI and go on our merry way. :p
[11:58] <Yeason> I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on an old ibook but the computer isn't showing the cd at the boot selection screen. anyone know where to start?
[11:58] <Ohana> asc: lol, i thought that might be coming :p
[11:58] <asc> Ohana: I'll do a little searching.
[11:58] <Sebboh> xtknight, I added these lines to the status file: Package: hobbes-evol-blocker, Status: install ok installed, Version: 1.0, Provides: evolution  .. Then I do an apt-get install hobbes-evol-blocker and it says already newest version..  But then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop still tries to install evolution...  I missed something.
[11:58] <Ohana> asc: thanks so much
[11:58] <livingdaylight> void^: ahh..under the authentication section.
[11:58] <kraypius> How do i install new screensavers?
[11:58] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, go into somewhere and delete /vmware. i think it is wherever you installed it before. or at least tried to.
[11:58] <c01100011> upgraded kernel to smp-686, it does not show up in grub even after grub-update. any advice ?
[11:58] <void^> livingdaylight: and restart samba, something like sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:58] <linuxnewbie755> cheeseboy, you have to sudo rm -R ~~~~/vmware.
[11:58] <asc> Ohana: When you did 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', what video driver did you choose?
[11:59] <Ohana> asc: ati
[11:59] <livingdaylight> void^: i have to take the ';' semicolon away to uncomment yes? and replace user with 'share'?
[11:59] <francois> hi, when i try to install sun-java5-jre is says that there is no installation candidate, but refered to by other packages, solution ?
[12:00] <Sebboh> linuxnewbie755, cheeseboy, uh, manually deleting directories that vmware was installed to isn't a good idea, because it installs to /usr/bin, and other main system directories.  You want to run the uninstaller script that it came with.
[12:00] <purpleplether> please help me
[12:00] <Sebboh> francois, I think that you need to select the right repository..
[12:00] <linuxnewbie755> Sebboh, well, it worked for me, but i agree with you, i just didn't know it came with one.
[12:00] <asc> Ohana: Out of curiosity, how old is that card, about?
[12:00] <Sebboh> dpkg tell francois about java
[12:00] <kalin> x800 is only a few years old