[00:00] <winXPuser> !proxies
[00:00] <winXPuser> *FIXME* ?? maybe it really needs a fix
[00:01] <MTecknology> !lts is <reply>LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)
[00:04] <MTecknology> !lucid is <reply>Ubuntu 10.04-LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 - See !lts for more details.
[00:05] <tsimpson> the version is not "10.04-LTS", just "10.04"
[00:11] <MTecknology> tsimpson: oh, I thought -LTS was just added to that if it was an LTS release
[00:11] <tsimpson> but "LTS" is not part of the version number
[00:12] <MTecknology> it's part of the 8.04 release number?
[00:12] <tsimpson> no
[00:13] <MTecknology> OH!
[00:13] <MTecknology> !hardy
[00:13] <tsimpson> http://releases.ubuntu.com/ <-- see any -LTS?
[00:13] <winXPuser> :P
[00:13] <MTecknology> Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS <- that's why the 8.04 has -LTS appended?
[00:14] <tsimpson> it's "8.04.4" as it is _an_ LTS, not "8.04.4-LTS"
[00:14] <MTecknology> but !hardy has 8.04-LTS
[00:15] <tsimpson> !hardy
[00:15] <tsimpson> not any more :)
[00:15] <MTecknology> :P
[00:15] <MTecknology> !lucid
[00:15] <MTecknology> alrighty
[00:15] <MTecknology> tsimpson: thanks for the info :)
[00:15] <tsimpson> !lucid ~= /num/num LTS/
[00:15] <tsimpson> lies
[00:16] <tsimpson> !lucid ~= /04/04 LTS/
[00:16] <tsimpson> !lucid
[00:16] <tsimpson> !dapper
[00:17] <tsimpson> there, now I feel the world is in order
[00:17] <MTecknology> so... it does regex updates too.... nice
[00:17] <MTecknology> tsimpson: agreed - the whole world is happy :D
[00:17] <MTecknology> I move my last two production systems to 10.04 at 19:00
[00:18] <MTecknology> 21:00 - 2.5hr
[00:18] <tsimpson> I still need to schedule upgrades
[00:18] <MTecknology> I scheduled it about a month ago
[00:19] <MTecknology> only found one (security) bug
[00:20] <tsimpson> I always wait until the http servers are less hammered
[00:20] <MTecknology> that sounds friendlier
[07:08] <whore> hi,wverybody, i am a new ubuntu user
[07:09] <TheOracle> Hey, whore.
[07:09] <whore> hi
[07:09] <TheOracle> whore: Please see the /topic
[07:09] <whore> oh
[07:09] <whore> see topic for what
[07:09] <whore> ?
[07:11] <topyli> whore, your nick is very offensive. if you would like to enjoy ubuntu channels, please change it
[07:12] <whore> do you know, you are not right , i think this name is a sign for me
[07:12] <whore> you are offensive to this name actually
[07:12] <whore> every name or words is equal
[07:13] <topyli> no. to make it simple for you, it has to go. change it or we'll remove you
[07:13] <whore> if you think that this name is offensive so that this words will become offensiive
[07:13] <whore> whatever
[07:13] <whore> your right
[07:14] <topyli> just do it please
[07:14] <whore> you remove me away
[07:15] <whore> byebye
[07:15] <whore> do you know , you are all bullshit!!
[07:15] <whore> fuck shit free whores
[07:16] <whore> fucking words
[07:16] <elky> ugh
[14:28] <AkShams> Hello!
[14:29] <AkShams> Anybody here?
[14:31] <Tm_T> hi
[14:34] <erUSUL> AkShams: hi
[14:50] <AkShams> hi all
[14:52] <AkShams> im here to ask for an ubuntu Cloak
[14:54] <AkShams> anoyone can help?
[14:54] <IdleOne> AkShams: are you an approved ubuntu member?
[14:54] <IdleOne> !membership
[14:54] <AkShams> Yes I think
[14:54] <Tm_T> AkShams: if you are ubuntu member, have registered nick and then post your launcpage here...
[14:54] <erUSUL> !nicksetup
[14:54] <Tm_T> launchpad page that is
[14:55] <AkShams> OK
[14:55] <AkShams> Here is my launchpad Account url: https://launchpad.net/~akshams
[14:55] <Tm_T> jussi: ^
[14:56] <AkShams> I've followed the freenode nickname setup instructions
[14:56] <AkShams> my nickname is AkShams
[14:56] <jussi> !member >AkShams
[14:56] <IdleOne> AkShams: you still need to verify your account. check your email
[14:57] <jussi> and actually become a ubuntu member...
[14:59] <IdleOne> jussi: can I get a @not/ubuntu/member/yet cloak :)
[15:00]  * IdleOne goes off to work
[15:00]  * topyli grants hangaround member status to IdleOne
[15:01] <IdleOne> haha
[15:01] <IdleOne> ten years of being topyli's lacky and I might get friend status
[15:01] <IdleOne> ok I am off
[15:02] <topyli> no guarentees, but i strongly recommend it to everyone
[15:35] <AkShams> IdleOne : I have Verfied my Account
[15:35] <AkShams> what else?
[15:36] <jussi> AkShams: as we have mentioned, you need to become an ubuntu member
[15:38] <IdleOne> AkShams: there is a process that needs to be followed
[15:39] <IdleOne> !member | AkShams
[15:39] <IdleOne> read that
[15:41] <AkShams> IdleOnn & ubottu: Thank you.


[09:44] <ogra_> infinity, did you disable the system-image import job on nusakan in your hunt for the arm64 snappy issue ?
[09:44]  * ogra_ tries to find out why it was disabled
[09:48] <infinity> ogra_: I don't know anything about any part of that sentence.
[09:48] <ogra_> lol, ok
[09:48] <ogra_> then i guess it was slangasek
[09:48] <infinity> ogra_: Unless by "the arm64 snappy issue", you mean the firewall issue.
[09:48] <infinity> ogra_: But I was just hunting firewalls, slangasek might have dropped the crontab bits.
[09:48] <ogra_> yeah, your conversation in the backlog starts with slangasek trying to enable arm64 builds
[09:49] <ogra_> i could imagine he switched off the importer for that ... then ran into the keyserver issue and forgot to switch it back on ...
[09:49] <infinity> Possibly.
[09:50] <infinity> He's on VAC this week, but if you yell loud enough, he might hear you.
[09:50] <ogra_> would really be nice to announce it here if he switches it off ..
[09:50] <ogra_> (we have some unwritten rule that we do this among all others that are able to disable it :) )
[09:51] <ogra_> aha, seems my manual run just finished
[09:51] <infinity> ogra_: I tend to announce when I'm disabling things.  Usually.  But that could mean either that he didn't announce or that he didn't turn it off. :P
[09:51] <ogra_> right
[09:55]  * ogra_ switched the importer back on now ... seems to have run fine
[11:25] <doko> infinity, can you overwrite/disable the taskcoach autopkg test?
[11:28] <infinity> doko: It did actually regress on Oct 26, would be nice to figure out what's up with that.
[11:28] <doko> infinity, tell that the debian maintainer, they disabled the autopkg test now
[11:29] <doko> just kept it for the last upload to see how it behaves in vivid
[11:32] <infinity> doko: Diffing the logs, it looks like the difference is that the successful one pulls in wx*2.8, and the failed one pulls in wx*3.0
[11:32] <infinity> doko: Half done transition, I guess?
[11:33] <doko> infinity, no, I tried reverting back to 2.8, didn't work either
[11:33] <infinity> doko: No, I mean the test deps pull in 3.0
[11:33] <infinity> doko: When the deps pulled in 2.8, it worked fine.
[11:34] <infinity> doko: So, maybe taskcoach needs to move to 3.0, now that other bits seem to have moved on.
[11:35] <doko> infinity, please don't speculate. if you are interested, please have a look at the sources
[11:37] <infinity> doko: Oh, I missed that you merged a new version a few days ago that uses 3.0.  Hrm.
[11:39] <infinity> doko: My speculation made more sense without that context.
[11:41] <doko> infinity, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-zodb/ another one, always failing
[11:41] <doko> jibel, ^^^
[12:00] <flexiondotorg> I'd like to help an FFe get through. Who here can I discuss it with?
[12:38] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Which FFe?
[12:41] <flexiondotorg> infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1434412
[12:42] <flexiondotorg> Marcos has already got Folder Color in the 15.04 archive. Folder Color debuted in the 15.04 archive.
[12:42] <flexiondotorg> Ubuntu MATE is including it.
[12:43] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Does this affect anyone other than MATE?
[12:43] <flexiondotorg> Marcos has discovered he needed to change Folder Color to interact with icon themes correctly.
[12:43] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Nope. Not yet.
[12:43] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Then go for it.  Quickly.  Beta on Thursday. :P
[12:43] <flexiondotorg> infinity, How should I proceed?
[12:43] <flexiondotorg> Does someone need to approve the FFe?
[12:43] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I just did.
[12:44] <flexiondotorg> infinity, OK. Now what? Debdiff?
[12:44] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Uploads, ideally.
[12:44] <flexiondotorg> infinity, So I can ask the MOTU to do that?
[12:44] <infinity> flexiondotorg: *nod*
[12:44] <doko> tumbleweed, do you still track the python-cffi FFe?
[12:45] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Perfect. Thanks very much.
[13:38] <jamespage> please can the oslo-log uploaded to vivid NEW last month be rejected; I have a more Debian future-friendly version to replace it with.
[13:42] <infinity> jamespage: Done.
[13:42] <jamespage> infinity, thankyou
[13:43] <jamespage> zul, ^^
[13:43] <jamespage> uploading the revised one now
[13:43] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[13:49] <jamespage> that sync is under bug 1434526
[13:51] <jamespage> I also need a willing AA to deal with another oslo package required for OpenStack kilo-3 (oslo-policy)
[13:51] <jamespage> another refactoring into a shared common library
[13:51] <jamespage> (condition of the release team ack)
[13:51] <flexiondotorg> infinity, ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu recently merge some Ubuntu MATE changes. Changes I really need to test in the next Beta.
[13:52] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Please can you direct me towards someone who could build a new ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu package?
[13:52] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I'd ask cyphermox nicely, if I were you.
[13:52] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks.
[14:05] <cyphermox> let me get this done nao
[14:08] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, Thank you very much! :)
[15:08] <doko> hrm, what keeps gcc-4.8 in main?
[15:10] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.vivid/rdepends/ALL/gcc-4.8 -> gcj-4.8-jdk in supported-development-common seed, gcj-4.8-source in development seed
[15:10] <cjwatson> I see libstdc++-4.8-pic in the former and gcc-4.8-source in the latter too
[15:11] <doko> argh ...
[15:11] <doko> ok, didn't think about the seeds
[16:03] <doko> infinity, please can we get python-defaults into the release pocket?
[16:03] <infinity> doko: Yes.
[16:03] <Mirv> could the mesa 10.1.3-0ubuntu0.4 be released to trusty, it keeps on hitting people trying to install SDK on Ubuntu 14.04.2?
[16:04] <Mirv> the mlankhorst's proposed upload is now 11 days old
[16:05] <infinity> Mirv: Looking.
[16:06] <infinity> Mirv: Done.
[16:06] <Mirv> thank you!
[16:07] <Mirv> bzoltan_: ^ the SDK installability issue on 14.04.2 being resolved now(ish)
[16:33] <flexiondotorg> cyphermox, I see version 94. Thank you.
[16:34] <mlankhorst> goodie :)
[17:08] <rbasak> infinity: mysql-5.6 is pretty broken right now. I'll be uploading a fix shortly. "I will be freezing the archive later today" means that's OK, right?
[17:09] <infinity> rbasak: Yeahp.
[17:09] <infinity> rbasak: As the email noted, I intend to sleep before I freeze anything.
[17:09] <rbasak> Thanks
[18:43] <slangasek> ogra_: sorry - yes, I had disabled the cronjob because I was starting to clean up some of the phone channels, then I was down all weekend with a fever so didn't get it reenabled
[18:43] <ogra_> slangasek, can you try to remember to leave a note in the channel ?
[18:44] <slangasek> I can try
[18:44] <slangasek> :)
[18:55] <rsalveti> slangasek: or at least in the cron job :-)
[18:55] <rsalveti> hope you're feeling better today
[19:06] <sil2100> slangasek: hey! Shouldn't you be away resting btw.? ;)
[19:11] <balloons> infinity, when can we see a milestone for final beta?
[19:11] <infinity> balloons: When I do the builds $later.
[19:11] <infinity> Though, if someone wants to create the empty milestone now, I won't mind.
[19:11] <infinity> stgraber: ^ :)
[19:12] <infinity> stgraber: (One of these days, you need to show me if there's some QnD way to do that and I'm bugging you for no good reason)
[19:12] <stgraber> infinity: it's about 5 click in a web UI :)
[19:12] <infinity> stgraber: Today isn't that day, cause I need sleep between now and spinning images.
[19:12] <infinity> stgraber: FIVE?!
[19:12] <infinity> stgraber: Yeah, screw that.  Too many clicks.
[19:12] <stgraber> well, not exactly the most user friendly web UI :)
[19:13] <balloons> infinity, lol.. Just wondering on timing so I can tell folks to attack some images :-)
[19:13] <stgraber> infinity: did you turn off cron already? otherwise all daily builds will show up in the milestone
[19:13] <infinity> stgraber: It's pretty hostile, but at least it's not Jenkins?
[19:13] <infinity> stgraber: I didn't.  I will. :P
[19:13] <stgraber> oh yeah, it's beautiful and user friendly compared to Jenkins
[19:14] <infinity> stgraber: Alright, cron disabled.
[19:15] <stgraber> milestone ready
[19:15] <infinity> balloons: Images will be many hours out still, I'm waiting on a new kernel, need to force some things to migrate, do a d-i upload, and I need a nap before all that happens.
[19:16] <infinity> balloons: If there are people bored and wanting to test things, bugs reported against the last daily would still be worth knowing about.  Nothing particularly magical about the next image.
[19:17] <balloons> infinity, yes tis true. thanks for the heads up
[23:54] <slangasek> anyone else seeing debconf failures under update-manager in vivid?
[23:55] <slangasek> nothing that uses debconf in postinst is configuring successfully for me
[23:55] <slangasek> (and this is a recent regression, no more than a week or two since the last successful update)
[23:59] <slangasek> last successful update on 2015-03-18, which brought in a qt update and probably nothing that talked to debconf.  first failing update on 2015-03-20, which pulled in a lot of new packages, including glib2.0 which but nothing that would obviously account for debconf breakage


  Looking interested at the Intel thingy once they drop prices?
[23:05] <skellat> Unit193: Nope, no BeagleBone Black.  That's a different beastie from the BeagleBoard-xM.  My acquisitions budget is non-existent right now.
[23:06] <skellat> I haven't looked at the Minnow much yet.  Been having to help with recertification/initial certification for Precinct Election Officers.
[23:08] <skellat> That and there was that two page fast briefing note I had to whip up from scratch yesterday...


[00:05] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, is it possible to badtest therion/i386 please? autopkgtest for therion/5.4.4ds1-5ubuntu1: amd64: Pass, arm64: Test in progress, armhf: Pass, i386: Regression ♻ , ppc64el: Pass, s390x: Pass
[00:05] <LocutusOfBorg> it is NBS there
[00:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [amd64] (focal-proposed) [2.9.10+dfsg-4]
[00:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [armhf] (focal-proposed) [2.9.10+dfsg-4]
[00:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [2.9.10+dfsg-4]
[00:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [arm64] (focal-proposed) [2.9.10+dfsg-4]
[00:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [s390x] (focal-proposed) [2.9.10+dfsg-4]
[00:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libxml2 [i386] (focal-proposed) [2.9.10+dfsg-4]
[00:19] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: committed before you asked
[00:20] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: everything not in the i386 whitelist is an automatic badtest on i386, but I don't have a complete list of what needs hinting so they only get added when I see them in update_excuses
[02:29] <xnox> vorlon: Yeap, I did do retry with all-proposed=1 and it did work. We can start new glibc srus!
[04:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kodi [arm64] (focal-proposed/universe) [2:18.5+dfsg1-0ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[05:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: azure-functions-devops-build [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [0.0.22-3] (no packageset)
[05:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ruby-rubydns [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [1.0.3-3] (no packageset)
[05:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux-firmware [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.173.16]
[06:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: trilinos [s390x] (focal-proposed/universe) [12.14.1-3] (no packageset)
[06:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: trilinos [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [12.14.1-3] (no packageset)
[06:26] <cpaelzer> Hiho, trying to clean up a tail of a set of packages that got uploaded to Debian recently to complete and get unstuck
[06:27] <cpaelzer> I've found that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azure-functions-devops-build/0.0.22-3 is stuck in the new queue (passed in Debian a bit ago)
[06:27] <cpaelzer> that holds back https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azure-devops-cli-extension/0.17.0-2 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azure-cli/2.0.81+ds-2 for build dependencies
[06:28] <cpaelzer> if the former could eb accepted in the new queue all of that should get out of our way completely I'd hope
[06:28] <cpaelzer> therefore if an AA is around ^^ vorlon: apw: doko:
[06:29] <vorlon> cpaelzer: done
[06:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted trilinos [amd64] (focal-proposed) [12.14.1-3]
[06:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted azure-functions-devops-build [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.0.22-3]
[06:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted trilinos [s390x] (focal-proposed) [12.14.1-3]
[06:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ruby-rubydns [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1.0.3-3]
[06:31] <cpaelzer> thank you so much vorlon
[06:33] <cpaelzer> vorlon: I was searching my inbox for the freeze mail just minutes ago and wondered, and now here it is :-)
[06:33] <vorlon> magic
[06:33] <cpaelzer> vorlon: it is late for you right as it says "eoan-proposed" :-)
[06:33] <vorlon> oops
[06:34] <cpaelzer> I mean everybodey knows what is meant, but that way you can reply before ohters do :-)
[06:34] <vorlon> nah, I'm not going to bother replying
[06:34] <cpaelzer> k, I also see yesterday ocaml and python seem to have moved as things depending on them migrated
[06:34] <cpaelzer> this is a good start of the day
[06:35] <vorlon> yes indeed
[06:35] <vorlon> now, php and ruby
[06:35] <vorlon> which are intertwined
[06:35] <vorlon> do we need some retries of these ruby tests with --all-proposed?  and should we dump the arm64 ones from the queue that don't have it?
[06:36] <cpaelzer> kanashiro: was not giving me any details on ruyb-* yesterday so I can only guess
[06:36] <cpaelzer> but I assume yes
[06:36] <cpaelzer> he was going for a next-stage in the transition and maybe that is what you see
[06:36] <cpaelzer> those would most likely indeed need all-proposed to pick up the new defaults
[06:37] <ginggs> vorlon: if you have a chance, please LP: #1863596
[06:41] <vorlon> ginggs: done and deployed, feel free to resubmit the tests
[06:42] <ginggs> vorlon: thanks!
[06:50] <vorlon> rafaeldtinoco, kanashiro: what is the version of jruby you're trying to build?  because the only one I see in Debian is the one we have in focal
[06:52] <vorlon> ah, same version but different dependencies
[07:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: azure-cli [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [2.0.81+ds-2] (no packageset)
[07:20] <cpaelzer> umm, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azure-cli/2.0.81+ds-2 is now the next in the new queue to be stuck
[07:20] <cpaelzer> same context as above and yesterday
[07:20] <cpaelzer> they resolve biuld deps once the former one passes
[07:20] <cpaelzer> and then the next one hits new queue
[07:20] <cpaelzer> vorlon: ^^ if you are still around
[07:20] <cpaelzer> the enxt one to follow later (the last one) will then be https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azure-devops-cli-extension/0.17.0-2
[07:49] <cpaelzer> might be offline now, pinging the other AAs that come to mind and being around now apw: doko: didrocks: ^^
[07:49] <didrocks> hey cpaelzer
[07:49] <cpaelzer> o/
[07:50] <didrocks> cpaelzer: if I get you you need a NEW BIN review of azure-cli (amd64)?
[07:51] <cpaelzer> yes it is in the new queue atm
[07:51] <didrocks> downloading and looking
[07:55] <didrocks> cpaelzer: done (in universe)! bonus point if you get the small lintian warning (not the manpage one but the package description) in next upload :p
[07:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted azure-cli [amd64] (focal-proposed) [2.0.81+ds-2]
[07:56] <cpaelzer> I know someone who can do that ... :-)
[07:57] <didrocks> heh :p
[07:57] <cpaelzer> thank you didrocks
[07:58] <didrocks> yw
[08:47] <LocutusOfBorg> ocaml is done <3
[08:50] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, the I think we should bootstrap it, I can copy the binaries and do it on bileto
[08:50] <LocutusOfBorg> rafaeldtinoco, ^^ will you do it?
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kodi [amd64] (focal-proposed) [2:18.5+dfsg1-0ubuntu2]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kodi [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [2:18.5+dfsg1-0ubuntu2]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [amd64] (focal-proposed) [20.2.1~0ubuntu1]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [armhf] (focal-proposed) [20.2.1~0ubuntu1]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [s390x] (focal-proposed) [20.2.1~0ubuntu1]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kodi [arm64] (focal-proposed) [2:18.5+dfsg1-0ubuntu2]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [arm64] (focal-proposed) [20.2.1~0ubuntu1]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kodi [s390x] (focal-proposed) [2:18.5+dfsg1-0ubuntu2]
[08:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntu-advantage-tools [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [20.2.1~0ubuntu1]
[09:26] <juliank> Laney: I'm confused why _everything_ on arm64 is in huge queues
[09:27] <Laney> juliank: that's what proposed-migration does, you can find the logic in the code there
[09:27] <juliank> hmm
[09:27] <Laney> It's if there are more than 20(?) triggers for a migration item
[09:28] <juliank> I see
[09:28] <juliank> it seems to be somewhere around there, yes
[09:28] <Laney> so now if some smaller things come in, the idea is that they will not be starved out by the big stuff
[09:46]  * Laney smacks bileto
[09:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: azure-devops-cli-extension [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [0.17.0-2] (no packageset)
[10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ipe-tools [amd64] (focal-proposed/universe) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ipe-tools [armhf] (focal-proposed/universe) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ipe-tools [s390x] (focal-proposed/universe) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ipe-tools [arm64] (focal-proposed/universe) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ipe-tools [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/universe) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[10:54] <mvo> is 1865055 on someones radar? file-overwrite issue when upgrading to focal in iptables
[10:56] <Laney> jdstrand: ^- your upload (probably)
[11:02] <rafaeldtinoco> release team, I still got: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/html/ruby2.7-add.html to finish
[11:03] <rafaeldtinoco> they're all no-change rebuilds so I guess its fine
[11:06] <rafaeldtinoco> vorlon: With the binaries ruby-psych and libpsych-java (from sid) I can submit a new rebuild for Jruby. After that, ruby-psych and libpsych-java will get rebuilt based on latest upload and dead lock is gone for ruby2.7.
[11:41] <bluca> azure-devops-cli-extension mentioned above in NEW is the very last in the azure-cli rigamarole. Phew!
[12:18] <cpaelzer> HI AAs (again) to finish the azure-* packages now the last one finally built and is now itself stuck in the new queue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azure-devops-cli-extension/0.17.0-2
[12:18] <cpaelzer> didrocks: FYI I got a confirmation that the lintian warning of the one this morning will be looked at
[12:19] <cpaelzer> seb128: didrocks: doko: apw: if anyone of you has time to accept that from the new queue that would be great
[12:19] <cpaelzer> bluca: ^^ FYI
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted azure-devops-cli-extension [amd64] (focal-proposed) [0.17.0-2]
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ipe-tools [arm64] (focal-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1]
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ipe-tools [ppc64el] (focal-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1]
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ipe-tools [amd64] (focal-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1]
[12:21] <bluca> thank you!
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ipe-tools [s390x] (focal-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1]
[12:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ipe-tools [armhf] (focal-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-4ubuntu1]
[12:23] <locutus_> rafaeldtinoco, are you working on it?
[12:24] <locutus_> I can do it
[12:25] <rafaeldtinoco> locutus_: on what, sorry
[12:25] <rafaeldtinoco> locutus_: the transition ?
[12:26] <rafaeldtinoco> missing a few rebuilds and blocked by jruby / ruby psych
[12:27] <rafaeldtinoco> will be in about 1hr to continue
[12:27] <kanashiro> rafaeldtinoco, I think locutus_ is talking about jruby and ruby-psych
[12:27] <rafaeldtinoco> oh I'd love that, yep
[12:28] <rafaeldtinoco> having both pkgs for all arches coming from Sid would allow us to rebuild jruby and unblock them
[12:29] <locutus_> yes sure
[12:29] <locutus_> https://bileto.ubuntu.com/log/3957/build/1/
[12:29] <locutus_> I prepared a bileto
[12:30] <locutus_> rafaeldtinoco, I'll rebuild jruby without psych support
[12:30] <locutus_> rebuild psych
[12:30] <locutus_> rebuild jruby with the support
[12:30] <locutus_> rebuild psych
[12:30] <locutus_> publish
[12:30] <locutus_> end
[12:31] <kanashiro> thanks for tackling this locutus_ :)
[12:33] <locutus_> you can see progresses here https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3957/+packages
[12:34] <locutus_> please avoid uploads unrelated to them until I say that is green to go
[12:34] <locutus_> I want a no-change rebuild of them after they publish in the archive
[12:36] <kanashiro> locutus_, ack
[13:11] <ginggs> satpy now has a test dependency on python3-zarr which is non-installable on s390x due to python3-numcodecs not being available there, what's the way forward?
[13:30] <Laney> would be nice if someone could nbs-cleanup mutter in focal-proposed
[13:30] <Laney> seb128: ^?
[13:30] <seb128> Laney, k
[13:30] <Laney> thanks!
[13:30] <seb128> np!
[13:31] <seb128> we will need a libreoffice rebuild and to clear gnome-desktop/poppler for things to migrate though
[13:31] <seb128> so probably not going to be this week :/
[13:31] <seb128> well, maybe better to not risk breaking focal before w.e/travelling :)
[14:36] <jdstrand> mvo, Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iptables/1.8.4-3ubuntu2 (and submittodebian'd)
[14:36] <mvo> jdstrand: \o/
[14:55] <rafaeldtinoco> LocutusOfBorg:
[14:55] <rafaeldtinoco> +	tar xvf debian/data.tar.xz -C debian
[14:55] <rafaeldtinoco> +	cp debian/usr/share/java/psych.jar lib/psych.jar
[14:55] <rafaeldtinoco> i see your technique now
[14:55] <rafaeldtinoco> loved it
[14:55] <rafaeldtinoco> and thanks for doing it
[15:06] <Laney> jdstrand: thanks!
[15:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1057.61] (kernel)
[15:50] <locutus_> rafaeldtinoco, I feel dirty :D
[15:50] <rafaeldtinoco> haha its like cheating
[15:50] <locutus_> I started doing that with nodejs stuff
[15:50] <locutus_> embedding the node_modules.tar.gz and unpacking it :p
[15:51] <rafaeldtinoco> whatever it takes!
[15:51] <rafaeldtinoco> im just glad this will be unlocked, thx a lot
[15:51] <locutus_> I'm uploading a ruby-psych that hopefully will build fine
[15:51] <rafaeldtinoco> cool! kanashiro ^
[15:52] <locutus_> if it builds on the ppa, two rebuilds and publish in 1h or so
[15:52] <locutus_> so, before tonight, I'll give green light
[15:52] <rafaeldtinoco> sounds great.
[15:52] <rafaeldtinoco> ruby transition almost finishing
[15:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.15.0-1057.61]
[15:52] <kanashiro> awesome, thanks again locutus_
[17:15] <ahasenack> vorlon: thanks for the bind-dyndb-ldap rebuild, I was going to trigger that today
[17:15] <ahasenack> vorlon: I'll check update_output.txt to see what's left
[17:17] <vorlon> ahasenack: debian-installer is all that's left, and it needs linux-meta to drop the snapdragon metapackages for a kernel flavor we're no longer building
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected livecd-rootfs [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.525.41]
[17:18] <ahasenack> I checked its build logs the other day, it did seem to have picked up the new bind9-libs, but also some old udebs
[17:19] <vorlon> right
[17:19] <vorlon> I reuploaded debian-installer too to fix that
[17:20] <ahasenack> vorlon: can you please reject https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/britney/bind9-i386-dnsutils/+merge/379886 ?
[17:20] <vorlon> ahasenack: done, thanks
[17:20] <ahasenack> o/
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[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.4.0-176.206]
[20:33] <seb128> could an archive admin nbs mutter from focal-proposed?
[20:34] <seb128> I forgot to do it this afternoon and I'm on a laptop without my credentials to do it atm...
[20:34] <seb128> vorlon, ^ if you are around today?
[20:37] <vorlon> looking
[20:38] <vorlon> seb128: done
[20:40] <seb128> vorlon, thanks
[21:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: crash (eoan-proposed/main) [7.2.6-1build1 => 7.2.8-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
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[23:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-1005.5] (core, kernel)
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[23:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted docker.io [source] (bionic-proposed) [19.03.6-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]


[13:59] <dbarth_> we're starting in 1 minute now
[14:02] <alecu> hello!
[14:04] <dbarth_> hi
[14:05] <dbarth_> you can ask questions during the presentation
[14:05] <dbarth_> and you can also join the hangout
[14:10]  * dbarth_ waves at marcustomlinson :)
[14:10]  * marcustomlinson \o
[14:12] <alecu> QUESTION: can you guys publish the url to the slidedeck?
[14:18] <alecu> QUESTION: what does the name "Repeater" mean in that example?
[14:18] <alecu> dbarth_: mardy: ^
[14:18] <dbarth_> alecu: the deck is at https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1_BnaAASynFES-kwHoiIh2e9V2nBpYak5h_vmLfAbSIA/edit#slide=id.g187887df3_20
[14:18] <dbarth_> i will also share it on the event page afterwards
[14:19] <alecu> thanks
[14:19] <alecu> ah, I understand about the Repeater now, I thought it was part of Online Accounts.
[14:19] <alecu> thanks too :-)
[14:28]  * alecu loves the Online Accounts API for Scopes
[14:28] <dbarth_> :) thanks alecu
[14:29]  * marcustomlinson me too! :)
[14:33] <tedg> mardy, Does the plugin UI have to be QML? Or just connect to Mir?
[14:34] <alecu> QUESTION: what's the security model for the Online Accounts Plugins? Is the QML run confined or in the same process as the Online Accounts main UI?
[14:36] <tedg> Specifically thinking about things like HTML UIs
[14:37] <tedg> That seems like a bug :-/
[14:38] <tedg> Cool, it'd be nice to make them confined and just rely on the Mir connection.
[14:38] <alecu> getting rid of the manual review sounds great, thanks for working on that.
[14:39] <tedg> That way we don't restrict app devs who might have a different toolkit already working.
[14:39] <dbarth_> tedg: yep, makes sense; it's coming soon, as mardy had just started a sprint on that very task
[14:40] <dbarth_> has just started
[14:40] <tedg> mardy, dbarth_, is there a diagram or doc on how it's expected to work in *the future* :-)
[14:41] <dbarth_> tedg: hmm, not really, but we could start from the detailed diagram in the presentation
[14:42] <dbarth_> you guys want to join the hangout at the end?
[14:42] <tedg> dbarth_, Eh, don't know that I have anything to add, just want to stay ahead of the changes.
[14:42] <dbarth_> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gtfwtxznvtczgp3nti4tcfy2vya
[14:43] <dbarth_> nw, we could interview alberto to draw that diagram update for ex.
[14:53] <alecu> I'm also using online accounts via the scopes API for the click scope
[14:53] <alecu> thanks guys for this session
[14:57] <dobey> it's not oauth at all
[14:57] <alecu> thanks, cheers!
[14:57] <dbarth_> thanks mardy, marcustomlinson, alecu and tedg for contributing to this session
[14:58] <mardy> dobey: OK, my mistake
[14:58] <dbarth_> and dobey!
[14:59] <dobey> it's a password authenticated REST API which you can get a token from, and that token is compatible with OAuth 1.0a. so the signing requests side is the same as oauth, but the token acquisition is completely different
[15:00] <dobey> which is why we have the library and are storing things differently
[15:00] <popey> mihir: I'll paste the link
[15:00] <popey> mihir: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeQJLw8gmBlyU2wetYPVBTMwXHJQkEilB-ZHePxp9ing5XXrQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:01] <dobey> anyway, different session now :)
[15:01] <popey> kunal: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeQJLw8gmBlyU2wetYPVBTMwXHJQkEilB-ZHePxp9ing5XXrQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:01] <kunal> ok
[15:03] <kunal> I will come back, I need to change my laptop
[15:04] <DS-McGuire> lmao
[15:04] <popey> kk
[15:05] <popey> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-calendar-planning
[15:06] <mihir> hi WIP pad http://pad.ubuntu.com/DnXPSYyHVF
[15:06] <mihir> kunal: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeQJLw8gmBlyU2wetYPVBTMwXHJQkEilB-ZHePxp9ing5XXrQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:09] <DS-McGuire> QUESTION: Are we only talking about it on the phone? Or are we talking about the tablet as well?
[15:09] <mihir> gventuri: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeQJLw8gmBlyU2wetYPVBTMwXHJQkEilB-ZHePxp9ing5XXrQ?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:10] <gventuri> mihir: still doing the email revew ;-)
[15:10] <gventuri> mihir: 5 minutes
[15:10] <mihir> gventuri: no issues, whenever you get time :)
[15:16] <popey> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-calendar-planning
[15:18] <SidPayton> QUESTION: Sorry for beeing of topic. Will there be a weather app session? Can't find it. I'm really burning to See the new design.
[15:19] <DS-McGuire> SidPayton, I can't see one for this week: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/2014-11-13/
[15:24] <mihir> popey: re-joining
[15:26] <popey> gventuri: http://pad.ubuntu.com/DnXPSYyHVF
[15:33] <DS-McGuire> You need a license to sync with exchange? God damn...
[15:34] <DS-McGuire> What about getting events from an email?
[15:34] <DS-McGuire> popey, What about getting events from an email?
[15:35] <kunal_> DS-McGuire, Can you provide some example for the same ?, do you mean to parse email and create evnt ?
[15:36] <DS-McGuire> kunal_, Like this on the iPhone: http://www.imore.com/how-send-calendar-event-invitations-using-iphone-or-ipad
[15:37] <kunal_> DS-McGuire, thanks
[15:38] <DS-McGuire> kunal_, No problem :)
[15:39] <DS-McGuire> popey, Yes, and you can add it to your calender.
[15:40] <dobey> popey: calendar invitations have a special MIME attachment
[15:40] <dobey> MIME was developed and added to e-mail explicitly for such things
[15:41] <dobey> gmail sees the ical attachment
[15:42] <DS-McGuire> popey, using the content hub?
[15:43] <popey> thanks dobey
[15:43] <popey> DS-McGuire: perhaps, yes.
[15:44] <dobey> if you send yourself an event e-mail, you can see what evolution, thunderbird, gmail, etc all do for it
[15:44] <DS-McGuire> Nope, I am all out.
[15:51] <dobey> why not automatic? if you have location magic enabled in the calendar app, why not have location automatically show you "today is a public holiday"
[15:52] <dobey> don't add events to the calendar, but just have it be a separate calendar source
[15:53] <DanChapman> it would be cool to import ical/ics from dekko. We have it in place to export the attachments but no where to send them to atm
[15:54]  * dobey recalls his time of working on evolution
[15:56] <popey> thanks everyone
[15:56] <popey> dobey: noted ☻
[15:57] <DS-McGuire> Thanks guys :D
[15:57] <didrocks> mhall119: want me to join this one?
[15:57] <mhall119> didrocks: if you can, I think you'd add valuable insight
[15:57] <mhall119> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeMQsFeC6JDpf1_tvsWfXh3L6DvrdFqpNLS8RuLpEMovXJZIQ?authuser=0&hl=en for anybody who wants to join
[15:57]  * didrocks remove the hl=en :p
[16:09] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/reference/packages.html
[16:15] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/training/basics/activity-lifecycle/index.html
[16:15] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/design/material/index.html
[16:15] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/index.html
[16:16] <didrocks> http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/actionbar.html
[17:54] <dholbach> popey, mhall119: is anyone of you guys going to run this one?
[17:54] <mhall119> I assume you are, since you're the creator
[17:55] <dholbach> ooooooook
[17:57] <popey> dholbach: not me.
[18:00] <dholbach> anyone wants to join the hangout?
[18:02] <dholbach> http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/cookbook/
[18:02] <dpm> http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/cookbook
[18:06] <dpm> https://djangosnippets.org/
[18:07] <dpm> https://djangosnippets.org/snippets/
[18:07]  * alecu looks
[18:07] <dpm> https://djangosnippets.org/snippets/10423/
[18:17] <dholbach> any more input from IRC?
[18:19] <dholbach> https://djangosnippets.org/users/adamlofts/
[18:19] <alecu> dpm: I see that djangosnippets.org is based on Cab: https://github.com/django-de/djangosnippets.org/tree/master/cab so, QUESTION: were you able to find out if forking from djangosnippets is better than just using cab?
[18:20] <alecu> I found out about that while checking if this would support syntax highlight in languages other than Python and HTML/css
[18:20] <alecu> (the answer is: yes, since it's using Pygments which supports way too many languages)
[18:22] <alecu> awesome that the devels are interested in us using it, and willing to help
[18:22] <alecu> sorry, the bit about pygments was not supposed to be a question :-)
[18:25] <dpm> np :)
[18:30] <dpm> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-appdev-1411-more-code-examples
[18:31] <alecu> I think it's a great idea. I've used the "Python Recipes" site hundreds of times, and having something similar for scopes and apps would be great.
[18:31] <dholbach> +1
[18:31] <dpm> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/langs/python/
[18:32] <dpm> alecu, is it this one? ^
[18:32] <alecu> yes, that one
[18:33] <alecu> I don't know
[18:33] <dobey> did stream just die?
[18:33] <alecu> dobey: I still hear it
[18:34] <dholbach> guys
[18:34] <dholbach> do you want to join the hangout too? :)
[18:34] <dobey> it's back after reloading. i just suddenly got the fuzzy "an error occurred" screen
[18:34] <alecu> dpm: dholbach: on the other hand, more and more snippets in python are being posted in stackoverflow, which seems to have a nicer voting/comenting mechanism...
[18:34] <alecu> and stuff in stackoverflow always shows up first in google.
[18:35] <alecu> I mean, any stackoverflow result always shows up first.
[18:35] <alecu> so, it would be great if this had good SEO
[18:36] <dobey> SO's pagerank is funky, because there's like 10,000 SO sites, and they all link to each other :P
[18:36] <dobey> it's like a spam newtork that's actually helpful
[18:37] <dholbach> linkfarm.snippets.developer.ubuntu.com
[18:37] <alecu> lol
[18:39] <dpm> any more feedback/ideas?
[18:40] <dobey> all my ideas are crazy :)
[18:41] <dobey> if you want a site that has comments and voting and launchpad integration, you could just bring back brainstorm and fix up the theme :P
[18:42] <dobey> (see, it's crazy)
[18:43] <alecu> thanks guys for the session!
[18:45] <alecu> dholbach: something nice about the python recipes site: "Fork this recipe" in each page.
[18:45] <dholbach> nice one
[18:45] <dpm> oh, nice
[18:46]  * dholbach notes down in the pad
[18:49] <alecu> what I find nice about the djangosnippets is that there's a place for markdown... something that's missing in a recipe site like https://gist.github.com/ (where forking seems to be very well done, though)
[18:50] <alecu> dpm: so, if I had it my way, I'd like to have gist's forking capabilities, stackoverflow SEO and djangorecipes' flexibility :-)
[18:51] <dpm> dholbach, I think that sounds like alecu is volunteering to help in the project? ;)
[18:51] <alecu> dpm: to test it, sure :-) I can't commit time for coding, sorry :-(
[18:51] <dpm> np :)