[00:00] <PythonSnake> Thank you Ddpbf
[00:00] <James147> or find a project you really want to help and contact the developers/grab the source :)
[00:01] <Ddpbf> PythonSnake: :)
[00:01] <BATi> sea4ever: you can find maintainers of upstream KDE packages at http://techbase.kde.org/
[00:02] <PythonSnake> Ddpbf: what is the command to add ppa please ?
[00:02] <Ddpbf> BATi: gcc is not kde package :)
[00:03] <BATi> sea4ever: he asked "If I wanted to contribute some code to KDE who would I speak to?" :)
[00:03] <Ddpbf> PythonSnake: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[00:03] <Ddpbf> BATi: sorry, my bad
[00:04] <BATi> Ddpbf: and my bad to send reply to sea4ever instead of you :)
[00:04] <PythonSnake> Ddpbf: it worked thanks again. :)
[00:04] <PythonSnake> lol
[00:05] <Ddpbf> PythonSnake: now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:06] <PythonSnake> I know :)
[00:26] <PythonSnake> Ddpbf: do I need to restart ?
[00:27] <Ddpbf> you do
[00:27] <PythonSnake> ok
[00:41]  * mete_ is new around here...
[00:44] <Oer> hi mete_
[00:45] <mete_> hi
[00:50] <PythonSnake> hi mete_
[00:52] <mete_> hi, just trying to see what's going on
[00:57] <Oer> i'm just waiting for the solution of bug 1
[00:58] <Oer> does this involve you too ?
[01:06] <Aerosonic> Where do I go in settings to set up the mouseover on corners?
[01:07] <Aerosonic> When I mouseover on top left corner I get a dashboard, I don't want that.
[01:08] <ArchangelSe7en> system settings
[01:08] <BATi> Aerosonic: system settings -> desktop behavior -> screen edges
[01:09] <ArchangelSe7en> there ^^^
[01:09] <Aerosonic> Thanks BATi
[01:09] <Aerosonic> Except it's not in Desktop Behavior, there is no such thing
[01:09] <Aerosonic> I just typed screen edges in search..
[01:10] <Aerosonic> Oh. Workspace behaviour.
[01:10] <BATi> Aerosonic: eh... sorry my bad, I have desktop in czech language
[01:10] <ArchangelSe7en> which version of KDE ?
[01:10] <Aerosonic> latest and greatest :P
[01:10] <ArchangelSe7en> hm .. 4.6
[01:11] <Aerosonic> yes
[01:11] <ArchangelSe7en> shouldnt be somwhere deferent from 4.5
[01:11] <ArchangelSe7en> sec
[01:11] <Aerosonic> No it's Workspace Behavior
[01:12] <ArchangelSe7en> Look & Feel > Desktop > Screen Edges
[01:13] <Aerosonic> Look & Feel? I thought we got rid of that
[01:13] <Aerosonic> that was waaay back in 3.x
[01:13] <Aerosonic> Or even 2.x
[02:14] <naught101> has anyone else's mouse trackpad stopped working since the last kernel update?
[02:31] <jordan__> i have a question where are the theme files store at?
[02:32] <jordan__> they suppose to be in /usr/share/icons/ ?
[02:32] <jordan__> the theme folders appear
[02:32] <jordan__> i just cant locate them on my hard rive everywhere
[02:33] <jordan__> i try using kfind searching for "folder" which the theme im using the main icon has folder in it but im not finding them
[02:34] <jordan__> im using MIB
[02:35] <jordan__> they suppose to be stored in places correct?
[03:01] <jmichaelx> on several machines upgraded to 11.04, i am finding that bash history is often not being saved.....i primarily use konsole and yakuake, if that has any relevance. anyone else seeing this?
[03:08] <jordan__> jmich, how frequently does it mess up?
[03:19] <soee> hi anybody here ?
[03:22] <jordan__> I am but im not much help
[03:39] <bomber> hello folks
[03:41] <bomber> i have been using the newer kubuntu 11.04 for a few days now and flash was working fine...it said it had an update to the flash player and after i installed it now i cant watch flash videos.... any ideas?
[03:55] <Oer> my current <IP_ADDRESS> works fine, on 64 bit kubuntu
[04:07] <bomber> did you get the update today via the system settings/software mgmt tool?
[04:09] <bomber> maybe i have to uninstall firefox completely and flash and then reinstall them.... maybe it all the pluggins for flashblocking and script blocking isnt allowing the new installation to run flash
[04:26] <Oer> bomber what version do you have ? the  <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is the latest > http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/312469
[04:29] <bomber> kewl thanks
[04:47] <diman> ku
[05:09] <makuseru> I just upgraded to 11.04 from 10.09, keramik doesn't seem to be included in the window decorations, and I can't find anyway to download it. Does anyone know how?
[05:13] <bomber> gnash fixed me up
[07:43] <livio> hello
[07:43] <livio> !list
[07:45] <gr8m8> !bot | livio
[08:33] <the_p_> hi. i'm trying to use a ubuntu with kde. now i deinstalled gdm and puleaudio but somehow it gets always reinstalled.
[08:34] <the_p_> does anyone have an idea what could cause this reinstallation?
[08:35] <the_p_> is it possible that this is done via the update manager?
[09:15] <newbie|7> hello
[09:16] <newbie|7> any help on setting dispaly resolution on kubuntu 11.04
[09:16] <newbie|7> ?
[10:23] <subnormal> I have Ubuntu server, and installed Kubuntu onto it, is there a way I can make the Kubuntu not auto start when the computer restarts? I want to be able to boot straigt into the console, and then have the option to start kubuntu if I want to
[11:31] <aravel> hi, installing kubuntu 11.04, where's the option to install as a dual boot?
[11:31] <aravel> it only gives me delete everything or sort it out myself
[13:20] <scott__> Hey everybody, I've been having problems with my 3rd gen ipod nano with Kubuntu 11.04.  I added Paul McEnry's PPA and did an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  It's recognizing the ipod's plugged in, but won't let me do anything with it in Banshee.
[13:21] <scott__> I know it's a noobish question, but I've really tried to find it on Google first
[13:24] <scott__> *bump
[13:27] <soee> scott__, why noobish question ? :) its not, sadly i cant help i do not have ipod and im not using banshee :D
[13:28] <scott__> soee, it's okay...I just hate asking for help :D
[13:34] <szal> hmmm..  I have a print job in the print queue that I canceled, but it doesn't disappear and even survived a reboot..  at least it doesn't block the printer though (11.04, KDE 4.6.4 from kubuntu-ppa, HPLIP w/ HP LaserJet 1100)
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:21] <mtngan88> hi
[14:24] <PythonSnake> hi mtngan88 and BluesKaj
[14:24] <S74rk7> hi everyone!  Anyone know where flash player is located... it was working fine yesterday but I got an update for chromium (daily build ppa) and it seems to have killed it :S
[14:25] <S74rk7> I downloaded flash from adobe website but where I am meant to place the files... tried using the search tool but hasnt turned anything up :S
[14:25] <BluesKaj> hi PythonSnake
[14:27] <BluesKaj> S74rk7, have you tried reinstalling flashplugin-installer ...chromoium daily build is also to blame btw ..if you want stability use the default version
[14:29] <S74rk7> yeah...gonna change to stable ppa - thought it to be more secure to use the daily build ppa... security wise n all that...
[14:29] <szal> lol
[14:29] <S74rk7> BluesKaj: I ran sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer --- says its already the latest version...
[14:30] <szal> daily/nightly build = bleeding edge, work in progress..  chances are that it doesn't even work
[14:31] <BluesKaj> S74rk7, security wise? ..run , sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[14:31] <S74rk7> szal: we'll have to say it seems to have been fine up until now... but you'd b right... it isnt working... :)
[14:32] <S74rk7> BluesKaj: Respect my friend!  Cured it - and a neat trick I've now learnt... reinstall things... thanking you kindly...
[14:33] <BluesKaj> S74rk7, np :)
[14:34] <S74rk7> BluesKaj: Just a question though... that flashplugin ... is that system wide?? as in... does it work for rekonq n everything too... or with the likes of rekonq and firefox because they're installed as plugins I presume they're stored within some config files under /.mozilla n that?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> yes, it's global
[14:36] <BluesKaj> flashplugin is a bit of a misnomer
[14:38] <S74rk7> BluesKaj: flashplugin is a bit of a misnomer ... meaning?  (and I dont mean the word misnomer haha)
[14:38] <S74rk7> its not used globally all the time or something?
[14:38] <S74rk7> that what you mean... because firefox can use its own plugin?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> it'ss more than just a plugin
[14:39] <BluesKaj> ppl think it's just a link but it also contains the player afiak
[14:40] <S74rk7> yeah I'd imagined it as platform as such... you know.. like a programing language that can be used for playing video ... audo ... and interactive content...
[14:40] <S74rk7> same as you..
[14:41] <S74rk7> you mean people just think of it as a media player for youtube?
[14:41] <S74rk7> and sites likewise..
[14:41] <tsimpson> "plugin" refers to the way a program uses the software, it's just a software library that is loaded on-demand
[14:42] <S74rk7> tsimpson: ahh get you now.. thanks for that :)
[14:42] <S74rk7> makes sense the name "plugin" now :)
[14:43] <tsimpson> technically, "extension" would be a more descriptive word for that kind of thing
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yeah , the flashplayer itself is contained in restricted-extras  package
[14:49] <S74rk7> how would I go about restarting kde?  When it seems to glitch out??  Just logout and back in?
[14:49] <S74rk7> what I mean by glitching out... you know if you right click and the drop down menu does quiet draw correctly...
[14:50] <S74rk7> takes you to move the mouse over it to tidy it up...
[14:50] <S74rk7> or I try to restore a window after it being minimized... and it brings the window up but its just a shade... transparent..
[14:54] <BluesKaj> there are a few odd glitches with kde 4.6.3.and .4, but they seem different for different users...depends on graphics cards/drivers etc
[14:55] <BluesKaj> and desktop settings of coursew
[14:55] <mranima> have you tried disabeling desktop effects?
[14:59] <S74rk7> Nah.. its a pretty much an out of the box setup.. try turning off desktop effects now ---pity though.. visually pleasing as it is :D
[15:00] <S74rk7> I'm going back to "Linuxfromscratch" to do a bit of homework lol... no easy way to learn linux ... always end up having to backtrack and learn something else lol
[15:00] <S74rk7> cool though! :)
[15:03] <S74rk7> 1 last question and I'll leave you all in peace :)   ---- anyone any suggestions for an offline blogging client in linux...
[15:03] <S74rk7> personal recommendations and all that welcome!
[15:20] <szal> hmmm..  I have a print job in the print queue that I canceled, but it doesn't disappear and even survived a reboot..  at least it doesn't block the printer though (11.04, KDE 4.6.4 from kubuntu-ppa, HPLIP w/ HP LaserJet 1100)
[15:34] <koyote> anyone around who can help with a sound issue?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> koyote, tell us about it in more detail
[15:39] <koyote> BluesKaj: okay, I have two microphones, brand new
[15:39] <koyote> neither of them works, so it's a setting
[15:39] <koyote> sound card is ..... hang on
[15:40] <koyote> nvidia alc888
[15:40] <BluesKaj> koyote, just open alsamixer in the terminal , it will show your soundcard in the top left
[15:41] <koyote> yeah hda nvidia
[15:41] <koyote> realtek alc888
[15:42] <koyote> okay, possibly I need to use alsamixer instead of phonon
[15:43] <koyote> nope, nothing
[15:43] <koyote> (testing skype)
[15:43] <BluesKaj> koyote, bring up the vol ctrls on the mics
[15:44] <PythonSnake> BluesKaj: are you an op please ?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> also koyote do you have pulseaudio installed ?
[15:44] <koyote> BluesKaj: yep.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> PythonSnake, no I'm not an op
[15:45] <PythonSnake> ok can you whois me ?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> koyote, ok what about pavucontrol  ?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> PythonSnake, I whois'd you ...what is it you need to know?
[15:46] <koyote> hang on
[15:46] <PythonSnake> BluesKaj: I want to hide ip and things
[15:48] <koyote> pavucontrol is installing
[15:48] <BluesKaj> PythonSnake, join #freenode and ask the ops there to cloak you , your nick has to be registered first tho
[15:48] <PythonSnake> ok i'll try thanks BluesKaj
[15:48] <PythonSnake> By the way is rekonq or firefox faster ?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> dunno..don't use them
[15:50] <koyote> okay, now that pavucontrol is installed, what's next?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> setup pavucontrol settings for mics if it sees them
[15:51] <koyote> okay, let's see what happens
[15:57] <koyote> okay, the microphone in the webcam is showing in pavucontrol, with obvious detection of ambient
[15:57] <koyote> the internal analog is present but nothign I do hooking up a microphone seems to work
[15:57] <koyote> (under input devices in pavucontrol)
[15:59] <koyote> just not getting anything
[16:04] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio pavucontrol used to be a requirement for skype audio to work .. not sure if that's stil the case , some have skype working without pulseaudio and pavucontrol installed ...skype works with alsamixer in some cases ...the mics should work on their own with alsamixer
[16:04] <BluesKaj> koyote, ^
[16:04] <koyote> skype is insisting my only option ins pulseaudio
[16:04] <koyote> and pavucontrol is registering mic input
[16:06] <BluesKaj> well koyote, personally i don't use pulseaudio , alsamixer fits my needs and skype static works well with it , not requiring pulseaudio
[16:07] <koyote> I can possibly do that. have to check
[16:07] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio is basically redundant on integrated sound cards ...it's meant for fancier pci soundcards that have a lot of options
[16:15] <koyote> pulse seems to have been a default installation.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> koyote, yes, unfortunately ...there are some canonical politics behind that decision :)
[16:18] <koyote> well, I can just remove packages....... alsa is present, so do I need to add anything before I reset?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> well, dunno if your skype version works with alsa , but if not try the static version
[16:20] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:21] <Erthe> G'day
[16:22] <Erthe> Does anyone know how to edit the labels displayed for places in Dolphin?
[16:23] <PythonSnake> Hi
[16:24] <PythonSnake> I just removed rekonq but when i search "Rekonq" i still see it.
[16:24] <PythonSnake> how t ofix that ?
[16:29] <PythonSnake> please help
[16:30] <chachan> PythonSnake, what do you mean with "search"?
[16:30] <PythonSnake> chachan: In the search bar I type "rekonq"
[16:30] <PythonSnake> and rekonq appear
[16:30] <chachan> can you execute it?
[16:30] <PythonSnake> no
[16:30] <PythonSnake> it shows nothing
[16:31] <chachan> restart plasma or sign out and sign in
[16:31] <PythonSnake> chachan: ok I'll try be right back
[16:32] <erikdecker> hi
[16:32] <erikdecker> just got kubuntu im a huge fan
[16:33] <erikdecker> so
[16:33] <ArchangelSe7en> 'grats
[16:34] <chachan> erikdecker, you can add it in your G+ sparks :p
[16:34] <erikdecker> ?
[16:34]  * erikdecker is very confused
[16:34] <chachan> Google+, sparks, add interest...
[16:35] <Erthe> Anyone been having issues with rekonq in natty?
[16:35] <Erthe> Keeps crashing on me.
[16:35] <erikdecker> i cant get oracle java to work
[16:37] <ArchangelSe7en> melmantheman, explain
[16:37] <PythonSnake> chachan: it worked thanks
[16:40] <BluesKaj> melmantheman, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:43] <BluesKaj> PythonSnake, I see your cloak request is a success :)
[16:44] <PythonSnake> yeah :)
[16:47] <PythonSnake> BluesKaj: do you prefer chromium or firefox ?
[16:49] <Oer> install both, always handy if you want to test a website. i prefer chromium as standard.
[17:04] <shane2peru> I'm back, I did a fresh install of kubuntu and my one monitor is only getting 640x480 resolution!  should be 1024x768  I have nvidia but don't seem to be able to set it with the nvidia-settings
[17:04] <shane2peru> Any ideas?  640x480 is unacceptable
[17:06] <yoyo> jockey
[17:06] <shane2peru> in my previous Kubuntu installation I had dual screen setup nice with both at 1024x768
[17:07] <chachan> shane2peru, did you try changing it in system settings > Display and Monitor?
[17:07] <shane2peru> yes, but I didn't see how to change it, there it is setup as dual monitor with something like 2048xxxx
[17:07] <shane2peru> chachan:
[17:08] <chachan> I have dual monitor
[17:09] <shane2peru1> oooooops, changed my network. :)
[17:10] <chachan> shane2peru, try with krandrtray
[17:10] <shane2peru1> chachan: before I always used nvidia-settings manager and that worked, I'm not opposed to krandrtray, but if I can limit my variables I would prefer to
[17:11] <PythonSnake> do anyone know a good bouncer for quassel please ?
[17:13] <shane2peru1> chachan: do I need to install krandrtray? or is it installed?
[17:14] <chachan> I guess you don't have to, but you can try executing it
[17:15] <shane2peru1> chachan: lol, well, that seems to be the exact same settings as in the system configuration -> monitors     and it was installed
[17:16] <shane2peru1> I can't seem to change it in there either
[17:55] <shane2peru> chachan: ok, got it, but I had to cheat!  I took a different xorg.conf file that I had from a different install, and used that, now I'm in good shape, poor solution, but worked.
[17:59] <Ddpbf> hi
[17:59] <PythonSnake> Hi Ddpbf
[18:00] <Ddpbf> hi PythonSnake
[18:00] <jwash> hi everyone, how do i add workspaces manually, the option isn't showing in the workplace switcher, this is what appears when i hit properties: http://www.imagebam.com/image/092a91138781322
[18:01] <PythonSnake> right click on workspace switcher
[18:01] <chachan> shane2peru, ;)
[18:02] <jwash> PythonSnake, you didn't read my message
[18:02] <jwash> look at the picture, that's what i get when i hit properties oon the switcher
[18:03] <BATi> jwash: are you aware that you are using gnome? :)
[18:03] <shane2peru> BATi: from Suse?
[18:04] <PythonSnake> jwash: please join #ubuntu for ubuntu questions.
[18:10] <jwash> PythonSnake: nice way to get out of it, eh?
[18:14] <proog> good evening today I come to my friend and he has problem that sound isnt working on his PC, when I open phonon sound settings in kubuntu I see only jack connection kit and puls
[18:14] <proog> pulse audio servfer is grayed out
[18:14] <proog> is there anz way how to disable jack and reenable playing trough pulse audio?
[18:15] <Ddpbf> of course
[18:15] <Ddpbf> did you remove pulse
[18:16] <proog> I dont know, but when I do ps -A I see pulse running
[18:16] <Ddpbf> or just changed what vould be background for phonon?
[18:16] <proog> in  pavucontrol it seems, that vlc output sound to pulse, but it isnt playing and in kmix I see classic alsa control
[18:17] <Ddpbf> again go in allmighty system settings
[18:17] <proog> and in kde sound settings pulse is grayed out
[18:18] <proog> should be jack installed by default, or something gone wrong and sound output is set to jack server instead pulse?
[18:19] <proog> he told me that i got bugged after installing some media player
[18:21] <proog> it seems that sound package got reinstalled to jack, and pulse is now disabled
[18:22] <Ddpbf> proog: how did you disable pulse?
[18:23] <proog> I dont know it isnt my PC, but he told me that he installed some alsa packages
[18:23] <Ddpbf> it is no matter
[18:23] <Ddpbf> alsa is base for pulse
[18:23] <Ddpbf> pulse wont work without it
[18:24] <Ddpbf> is there ~/.pulse/client.conf?
[18:24] <proog> I know but it seems, that KDE output sound to jack, and pulse dont transfer sound to alsa backend, but I cant enable pulse in KDE settings
[18:25] <Ddpbf> or ~/.pulse-a11y-nostart
[18:25] <proog> no only this
[18:25] <proog> proog@proog:~/.pulse$ ls
[18:25] <proog> 62005e24c2cab58fd8e56e1f4dc51e3d-card-database.tdb  62005e24c2cab58fd8e56e1f4dc51e3d-default-source      62005e24c2cab58fd8e56e1f4dc51e3d-runtime
[18:25] <proog> 62005e24c2cab58fd8e56e1f4dc51e3d-default-sink       62005e24c2cab58fd8e56e1f4dc51e3d-device-volumes.tdb  62005e24c2cab58fd8e56e1f4dc51e3d-stream-volumes.tdb
[18:25] <FloodBotK1> proog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:27] <proog> none of .pulse/client.conf or ~/.pulse-a11y-nostart is there
[18:30] <Ddpbf> proog: try thic
[18:30] <Ddpbf> make backup of ~/.pulse
[18:30] <Ddpbf> and then
[18:31] <Ddpbf> pulseaudio -D
[18:31] <Ddpbf> *rename ~/.pulse to ~/.pulse.old
[18:32] <proog> Ddpbf: ok, Ill try
[18:34] <proog> pulseaudio -D outputs E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[18:34] <Ddpbf> huh
[18:35] <Ddpbf> maybe you could ask on forums?
[18:35] <proog> ok, Ill try
[18:35] <proog> than you for help)
[18:55] <Deltaiuhui> hi.
[18:55] <Deltaiuhui> any one here using kde 4.7 rc?
[18:57] <yofel> Deltaiuhui: the packages aren't ready yet, so probably not (except on other distros or using project neon)
[18:57] <juso> Im not sure how you guys run linux as your main desktop OS..... i just don't
[18:57] <juso> I can't use half my stuff on a linux desktop - I thought they would of advanced by now.
[18:58] <Deltaiuhui> juso, hlaf of what
[18:58]  * Deltaiuhui is running win 7
[18:58] <juso> my software and hardware
[18:58] <Deltaiuhui> juso, what software?
[18:59] <PythonSnake> Anyone know a good  bouncer ?
[18:59] <Ddpbf> you do have cloack @unaffiliated
[18:59] <Ddpbf> what is wrong with it?
[18:59] <Ddpbf> :)
[18:59] <juso> itunes / netflix / cannon dslr software for viewing through camera / and my all in one printer/scanner/etc
[19:00] <Deltaiuhui> juso, then use windows
[19:00] <juso> OR osx, but yes I've figured that out now.
[19:00] <Deltaiuhui> juso, yea or osx.now go install your os
[19:01] <juso> Do you guys just chose hardware/software to work with linux - instead of just choosing it because of the actually features of the hardware/software?
[19:01] <yofel> well, we can't do much about the fact that sofware that's written for OS X or Windows doesn't work right in linux...
[19:02] <Deltaiuhui> juso, I bought my laptop without keeping linux in mind and boom everything of my laptop works with Linux
[19:02] <juso> Yes - mine as well.
[19:03]  * yofel admits he does check whether printers work with linux or not
[19:03] <yofel> there's no usable linux driver for my dads canon printer for example
[19:04] <juso> I like the OS - its great, but its making working on what I want to more of a hassle not less - do any of you guys experience that as well?
[19:13] <PythonSnake> ddpbf_: just wanting to be connected 24/7 :)
[19:17] <Deltaiuhui> juso, no
[19:25] <juso> Deltaiuhui, ummm okay - your are a minority I bet then.
[19:26] <Deltaiuhui> juso, millions of scientists use it. so it is not a minority
[19:29] <juso> Deltaiuhui, italian greyhound dogs have a odorless fur coat
[19:30] <juso> thats my irrelevant fact to match yours
[19:30] <Deltaiuhui> juso, whatever
[19:32] <S74rk7> ok...I have no idea what that conversation is about but least now I wont feel as guilty asking a possibly slightly off-topic question as mine :)
[19:32] <S74rk7> lol
[19:32] <S74rk7> which is;  does anyone have any recommendations for a home server version of linux? :)
[19:33] <Deltaiuhui> S74rk7, if I understand correctly, you want to run a linux home server?
[19:33] <S74rk7> tried in the off-topic channels but theres rows going on in there too :)
[19:33] <S74rk7> Deltaiuhui: yeah..?
[19:34] <Deltaiuhui> S74rk7, just use ubuntu server edition
[19:34] <S74rk7> ohh..
[19:34] <S74rk7> have you tried it?
[19:35] <yofel> it's the same as the desktop system with some different kernel settings and no graphical environment installed
[19:35] <Deltaiuhui> S74rk7, I have worked for about 2 years
[19:35] <anahak> hello
[19:35] <anahak> why kde users hate kubuntu?
[19:35] <yofel> huh?
[19:36] <Deltaiuhui> anahak, they don't
[19:36] <S74rk7> anahak: I dont :)  -- I just dont understand it enough :)
[19:37] <S74rk7> Deltaiuhui: Thanks for the info...  :)
[19:38] <S74rk7> anahak: my point is that may be the case... people like to complain about stuff they dont fully understand
[19:38] <S74rk7> actually... sometimes people just like to complain in general :/
[19:40] <anahak> many people say kubuntu is very weak because it is based on ubuntu :S
[19:40] <anahak> well i would like to see a firewall or something like yast :S
[19:47] <PythonSnake> :D
[19:47] <PythonSnake> I got proxy, cloak and ssl connection
[19:50] <shane2peru> chachan: ok, got it the correct way, System -> Additional Drivers, and used the current, that worked great.
[19:51] <chachan> shane2peru, interesting :D
[19:52] <PythonSnake> :D
[20:46] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[20:46] <LINKSWORD2> The server identified me twice...
[21:37] <danimal5> hello
[21:38] <test_> www.tipico.de
[21:40] <paolo_> ciao
[21:40] <paolo_> !list
[21:41] <paolo_> !list
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[21:43] <paolo_> ciao
[21:43] <paolo_> !list
[21:44] <paolo_> ciao
[21:44] <paolo_> !list
[21:45] <paolo_> cia
[21:45] <paolo_> ciao
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[21:49] <paolo_> ciao
[21:49] <paolo_> !list
[21:51] <Guest55908> hallo
[22:04] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: happy now? :P
[22:05] <JontheEchidna> :P
[22:59] <PythonSnake> Hi soziety
[22:59] <soziety> hello, what distro of linux recommend me?
[22:59] <soziety> for a portable 64 bit
[23:00] <PythonSnake> Kubuntu
[23:00] <soziety> 11.04?
[23:00] <PythonSnake> Yes, for the latest stuff. If you want stability, you can choose 10.04.
[23:01] <soziety> can I encrypt the system partition with 10.04?
[23:02] <PythonSnake> Yes
[23:02] <soziety> ok thnks
[23:02] <PythonSnake> soziety: You're welcome. :)
[23:04] <PythonSnake> Hi fro
[23:38] <areichman> hello. I have a pretty large movie collection (mostly DVD's of TV shows) that I'd like to rip. Right now I'm making iso files of all the discs but I'd like to have another, smaller copy for streaming. I downloaded k9copy to try and to that but it's giving me some issues. Has anybody here tried this before?
[23:48] <PythonSnake> !k9copy
[23:48] <PythonSnake> !k9copy | areichman
[23:48] <ubuntu__> what would be the best/fastest way to transfer a 44 GB file off my computer onto another that is on the same LAN
[23:49] <areichman> PythonSnake: thanks for the tip but that's actually not my problem. It takes my DVD's just fine but when I encode with x264 the audio lags behind by about half a second
[23:49] <areichman> very annoying when I'm trying to watch
[23:49] <ubuntu__> I was thinking scp maybe with some flags?
[23:49] <ubuntu__> or smbclient?
[23:49] <PythonSnake> ubuntu__: do you use ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[23:49] <areichman> and when I use other encoding methods there's no compression so the files are still huge (1-2GB)
[23:49] <PythonSnake> for ubuntu support, please join #ubuntu
[23:49] <ubuntu__> PythonSnake: im in kubuntu right now
[23:49] <ubuntu__> but its a pretty general question
[23:50] <areichman> ubuntu__: external hard drive? I know you'll have to do it twice but USB should be at least twice as fast as ethernet, even over LAN, I think
[23:50] <ubuntu__> actually that's a good point
[23:51] <areichman> and I've had less problems with usb than ethernet when copying large files
[23:53] <ubuntu__> looks like i need gparted to wipe this disk  weird
[23:53] <ubuntu__> cfdisk won't even let me look at it
[23:54] <PythonSnake> areichman: tried DVD::RIP ?
[23:55] <areichman> PythonSnake: no, I haven't. Looks like no updates for over a year, though
[23:56] <PythonSnake> areichman: HandBrake is a good one
[23:56] <ubuntu__> how can I run gparted from a kubuntu liveCD?  I am getting asked for a password and its not letting me authenticate
[23:56] <ubuntu__> probably because the default user is not in wheel
[23:56] <areichman> both gtk applications. I know that I can run them on kubuntu but I'd really like to stay with qt/kde apps
[23:57] <areichman> no idea how to get k9copy to adjust the audio correctly, PythonSnake?
[23:57] <areichman> ubuntu__: why do you need to run it from a livecd?
[23:57] <areichman> gparted has their own livecd if you need it
[23:57] <ubuntu__> sigh
[23:58] <ubuntu__> will you tell me how to do it if I explain it to you?
[23:58] <areichman> otherwise, unless you're trying to wipe the main drive you should be able to run it as a local user
[23:58] <areichman> no?
[23:58] <James147> ubuntu__: the kubuntu live cd comes with partitionmanager now... the kde vversion of gpatered
[23:58] <areichman> I don't know that I can help you from the livecd
[23:58] <areichman> I usually just use the alternate cd and do an install, then run programs from there
[23:58] <areichman> sorry :-(
[23:58] <areichman> if I knew how I would help
[23:58] <ubuntu__> James147: I don't see it in the menu
[23:58] <James147> ^^ but there should be no password for the default user in the livecd and the default user should be able to sudo
[23:59] <James147> ubuntu__: what version is the livecd?
[23:59] <ubuntu__> well I need to figure out how to export the display when I sudo su
[23:59] <ubuntu__> 11.whichever is current
[23:59] <iDanielSan> hey everybody
[23:59] <ubuntu__> James147: I can sudo, but when I sudo su.. hmm maybe sudo gparted will work
[23:59] <areichman> hello iDanielSan
[23:59] <ubuntu__> got it
[23:59] <areichman> ubuntu__: congratulations :-)


[03:27] <rww> gods, Rurd2di's still hopping in and out of ##f_y_c since I banforwarded them from -unregged. Some peoples' clients.
[05:41] <bullgard4> rww: ping
[05:42] <rww> bullgard4: Howdy. As I mentioned in PM, ikonia banned you from #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 earlier today for crossposting between the two channels.
[05:42] <bullgard4> rww: I know that.
[05:43] <rww> I'm guessing at some point in the past, you've read our IRC Guidelines. They do say not to do this, and you've probably seen us say in #ubuntu a lot that #ubuntu is for support with released versions of Ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 is for the current devel release.
[05:43] <rww> That rule is in place because getting support in two different channels at the same time duplicates our helpers' efforts and causes confusion.
[05:44] <rww> According to ikonia, you've also been told not to do this several times over the past few weeks.
[05:44] <rww> Given all the above, please explain why you continued doing it?
[05:46] <bullgard4> rww: The statement: "causes confusion." in general is not true. I t may be true in some special cases.
[05:47] <rww> bullgard4: I disagree with that. Regardless, it's the reason why the rule is in place, and is based on the experience of our IRC team. If you disagree with that reason, you may bring it up at an IRC Council meeting, but you may not ignore it while it's in effect.
[05:48] <bullgard4> rww: I'd like to bring it up at an IRC council meeting. How can I do this?
[05:49] <rww> bullgard4: The agenda for the IRC Council meetings is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda . You'd add it there, and the meeting information is on that page
[05:59] <Myrtti> sisters moving day... if theres anything that needs specifically my attention, I most likely wont be online
[05:59] <Myrtti> just as FYI
[05:59] <rww> Myrtti: k
[05:59] <Myrtti> ♥
[06:02] <bullgard4> rww: I cannot be online at  that time because I have an obligation in a social project in real live in my home town. Reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda, I did not understand  i.) Are these meeting public onlin? ii.) Where do they meet in cyberspace iii.) Can I make an agenda proposal in advance to the next meeting on the coming sunday although I cannot take part?...
[06:02] <bullgard4> ...iv.) Can you explain what means the line 'Fixed Action Items' > Send meeting minutes to 'ubuntu-irc mailing list'?
[06:03] <rww> bullgard4: i) yes, see irclogs.ubuntu.com ii) #ubuntu-meeting, iii) that wouldn't be useful, since nobody agrees with you on the crossposting rule who will be attending afaik, iv) fixed action items are actions that take place every meeting
[06:03] <rww> you could email irc-council at lists.ubuntu.com instead if you wanted them to go over it with you outside of a meeting, I guess
[06:09] <bullgard4> rww: Thank you very much for your information.. I need more time to think the matter over. At this moment I am sympathetic to email irc-council at lists.ubuntu.com at some later date.
[06:30] <IdleOne> bullgard4: if there is nothing else please don't idle in this channel.
[06:31] <bullgard4> rww: I will leave now this channel.
[07:52] <ikonia> ignore
[07:53] <bazhang> now in #freenode
[07:53] <ikonia> yup
[07:55] <topyli> i think bullgard might be best served by writing a (good) email to the irc list with such policy change suggestions. if the team likes the suggestion, it might be easier to push through in a meeting
[07:55] <topyli> (not this particular suggestion though)
[07:55] <ikonia> nothing wrong with making a request
[07:56] <ikonia> I don't think allowing cross-posting for stable/non-stable in #ubuntu/+1 is a good suggestion personally either.
[07:56] <topyli> nope
[07:56] <bazhang> overturning the crossposting rule? is that even remotely likely to happen?
[07:56] <rww> no
[07:56] <ikonia> to be honest, I don't think it's a genuine request
[07:56] <ikonia> I think he's just trying to argue as he won't stop doing it
[07:56] <ikonia> I spoke to him a few times and he understand and said he's stop doing it,
[07:56] <topyli> bazhang: nope, i was just musing on the general idea of suggestions and how to best go about them
[07:57] <bazhang> topyli, ok thanks
[07:57] <topyli> ikonia: heh, more likely
[07:58] <ikonia> just my opinion, he's finally got busted, so he's trying to argue it
[08:17] <bazhang> s0126h trolling ##linux earlier seems similar now
[08:19] <ikonia> thanks bazhang
[08:19] <ikonia> his last question/comment seems to confirm that too
 does linux run better on intel or amd   etc etc etc
[08:20] <ikonia> yeah, I saw it
 Hello all. I am a new user to Ununtu, and need some help, anyone free?
[08:27] <bazhang> huh?
[08:27] <rww> Amaranth1 != Amaranth
[08:27] <ikonia> 09:27 < Amaranth1> Hello all. I am a new user to Ununtu, and need some help,
[08:27] <ikonia> ahhh beat me to it
[08:27] <bazhang> yep odd though
[08:27] <rww> Not really. It's a word :)
[08:28] <Amaranth> heh
[08:28] <rww> Maybe both of them really like Nightwish :3
[08:28]  * rww runs
[08:28] <ikonia> they must be the only two
[08:29] <Amaranth> arg
[08:29] <elky> it's also a pretty purple crystal
[08:29] <Amaranth> stupid nightwish stealing my name
[08:29] <Amaranth> it means immortal, leave me alone :P
[08:30] <rww> so what you're saying is you can't be /killed
[08:30] <bazhang> :0
[08:30] <elky> hah
[08:30] <elky> it's also a type of grain
[08:55] <rww> ikonia: recently unvoiced in #defocus for chatting about the same thing, btw.
[08:56] <ikonia> ta, he's had his warning
[08:56] <ikonia> netsplitting has messed up my channel list again
[08:57] <ikonia> rww: just hit ##slackware with it despite being told not to
[09:44] <pythonsnake> Hello
[09:44] <rww> hi
[09:45] <pythonsnake> Can I get an unban for #ubuntu ?
[09:51] <pythonsnake> Could I get an unban for the channel #ubuntu please ?
[09:52] <bazhang> pythonsnake, why were you banned in the first place
[09:52] <pythonsnake> because of bad helping and mocking
[09:52] <pythonsnake> I'm sorry
[09:55] <pythonsnake> does that mean a "no" ?
[09:55] <LjL> pythonsnake: he's probably just looking up things in the logs
[10:06] <pythonsnake> ah ok
[10:06] <bazhang> pythonsnake, lets be 100% clear on this
[10:07] <bazhang> if there is a continuance of the past mocking/bad advice etc the ban will be much longer term
[10:08] <bazhang> pythonsnake, please read the code of conduct and the guidelines for the ubuntu channels
[10:08] <bazhang> !coc | pythonsnake
[10:08] <bazhang> !guidelines | pythonsnake
[10:16] <pythonsnake> ok
[10:19] <pythonsnake> bazhang: I won't do it again
[10:20] <LjL> pythonsnake: see if you can rejoin
[10:21] <pythonsnake> Thank you & have a nice day
[10:29] <pythonsnake> Hello
[10:29] <ikonia> pythonsnake: sorry, that was totally my fault
[10:29] <pythonsnake> ikonia banned me for ban dodging
[10:29] <pythonsnake> ah okay
[10:29] <ikonia> it was totally my mistake, very sorry, please re-join with appologies
[10:29] <pythonsnake> No problem
[10:30] <ikonia> thank you
[10:30] <ikonia> pythonsnake: you're welcome to leave this channel, again with applogies
[10:31] <pythonsnake> ?
[10:31] <pythonsnake> why
[10:31] <ikonia> because there is a no idle rule in this channel, as you know.
[10:31] <LjL> pythonsnake: people are not supposed to idle here
[10:31] <pythonsnake> ah this channel? SOrry
[10:35] <ikonia> (sorry chaps) he joined with a different nick and changed to his other nick as I came back to my desk, didn't see LjL remove the ban
[11:06] <elky> o.O
[11:06] <elky> Because the first thing that comes to mind when someone says "linux from scratch" is ubuntu...
[11:07] <ikonia> I didn't help him in LFS ans he was just spamming the channel with
[11:07] <ikonia> 12:04 < firas> Kernel.org is down so i cant install some packages
[11:07] <ikonia> 12:04 < firas> Kernel.org is down so i cant install some packages
[11:07] <ikonia> etc
[11:07] <ikonia> over and over again
[11:07] <ikonia> and he's just rejoined and started again so I'll ban him
[11:08] <ikonia> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter03/packages.html
[11:08] <ikonia> the book even gives him the urls
[11:08] <ikonia> he's not going to get very far....
[11:08] <elky> mhm
[11:11] <jrib> so backtrack logs you in as root and the irc channel bans root as ident... that's somewhat amusing...
[11:12] <rww> I find it hilarious, personally.
[11:12] <ikonia> jrib: that's changed in the currect dev release.
[11:12] <ikonia> (so obviously a target for the next release)
[18:27] <oCean> was pythonsnake's ban removed?
[18:27] <oCean> It seems he's still ban dodging, right?
[18:28] <IdleOne> last i checked it was removed
[18:28] <IdleOne> this is about 12-15 hours ago
[18:28] <oCean> hm, by LjL apparently?
[18:28] <IdleOne> hmm maybe a little less, more like 8 hours ago
[18:29] <oCean> but BT says ikonia removed him for ban dodging, after that
 (sorry chaps) he joined with a different nick and changed to his other nick as I came back to my desk, didn't see LjL remove the ban
[18:30] <oCean> aah, ok
[18:32] <oCean> IdleOne: thanks. Let's see how that goes
[19:36] <ikonia> daddy_ pm'ing me with abuse
[19:37] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu daddy_ tried to talk to stop in channel abuse, responded with pm abuse
[23:57] <bazhang> check Logan_ 's quit message? excessive, or OK
[23:57]  * rww shrugs


[10:19] <mup> Bug #1915642 opened: snapd: dbus avc permissions denied <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1915642>
[22:57] <popey> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/need-to-run-as-root-or-suid-on-all-snaps/22745
[22:57] <popey> this is a worry for me.


[15:27] <zoobab_> just tried pxe-kexec
[15:27] <zoobab_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnuSlQuLeMM
[15:28] <zoobab_> it reboots into the Edubuntu kernel, but it seems to fail to recognise my pcmcia network card
[15:28] <zoobab_> trying the same config with another laptop
[15:45] <alkisg> zoobab_: Boot normally. Run lspci -nn -k|grep -A 2 Ethernet. Then add the pcmcia network card module to the initramfs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AddingModules
[15:51] <zoobab_> pxe-kexec works fine with the other laptop with an onboard NIC
[15:51] <zoobab_> adding the modules...
[15:52] <alkisg> zoobab_: when you're done, please write a how-to somewhere, many people will want to do this
[15:52] <zoobab_> I knoz
[15:55] <zoobab_> root@ubuntu:~# echo yenta_socket | sudo tee -a /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[15:55] <zoobab_> tee: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/initramfs-tools/modules: Read-only file system
[15:55] <zoobab_> I use the liveltsp on a DVD
[15:55] <zoobab_> maybe that is why
[15:55] <alkisg> Yup
[15:56] <alkisg> You could work around it, but if you're going to work on this, better install it
[15:56] <zoobab_> will try to install it on a USB key
[21:47] <zoobab_> finally installed edubuntu on a USB HD
[22:16] <HedgeMage> :)
[22:20] <zoobab_> I followed this tutorial:
[22:21] <zoobab_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/AddingModules
[22:21] <zoobab_> but my network does not work
[22:21] <zoobab_> any idea how to check which modules are in the initramfs?