[00:03] <elfy> unless you are me bluesabre - in which case one package removal does all manner of things :p
[00:04] <elfy> I think I've got about 4 or 5 different visual things going on here now :)
[00:04] <bluesabre> :)
[00:04] <Unit193> elfy: Purge bash.
[00:04] <bluesabre> greybird's checkboxes and progress bars get funny when switching to other themes
[00:04] <elfy> purge bash !!!
[00:04] <elfy> Unit193: I need more than that
[00:04] <bluesabre> as I have found
[00:05] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, that happens in some apps like firefox
[00:05] <bluesabre> ochosi: its happening even in normal gtk
[00:05] <ochosi> strange
[00:05] <ochosi> gtk2 or gtk3?
[00:05] <elfy> clementine refuses to change twice - quit and start again
[00:05] <ochosi> elfy: well that one is qt
[00:06] <elfy> but it does work like a music player ...
[00:06] <elfy> ochosi: yea :)
[00:06] <bluesabre> a bit of both.. noticed the other day in thunar file properties and session logout, and just now in file-roller
[00:07] <ochosi> hm, not sure, but i'm not guessing that's something we wanna investigate for real...
[00:08] <elfy> I've installed a couple of things of late which must bring in nautilus, any file *job* calls that and then it looks really odd
[00:08] <elfy> jars a bit
[00:08] <bluesabre> yeah, nautilus likes to take over
[00:08] <elfy> dropbox does it
[00:09] <elfy> oh - disks does it
[00:09] <elfy> but then it would I guess being gnome-disk-utility
[00:09] <Unit193> bluesabre: At least it doesn't clash with xfdesktop though.
[00:10] <bluesabre> Unit193: it no longer draws on top? woot
[00:10] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, since that was mentioned earlier, i might inhibit the symbolic icons for the open-file dialog sidebar
[00:10] <ochosi> bluesabre: or at least try that, to make it look more consistent with thunar again
[00:11] <bluesabre> ochosi: all right, let me know if anything needs to change in any of my apps to avoid color
[00:11] <ochosi> nah, i think catfish can stay as it is
[00:11] <Unit193> bluesabre: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/xfdesktop4/vivid/view/head:/debian/patches/xubuntu_improve-nautilus-interactions.patch ?
[00:12] <bluesabre> Unit193: oh right
[00:15] <Unit193> ochosi: Still here?  You were okay with xscreensaver ending up getting pulled in with core, but light-locker in desktop.  You still feel this way?
[00:16] <ochosi> Unit193: well sorta. do the two packages mutually exclude each other?
[00:16] <ochosi> what i wouldn't want is ppl ending up with both, that could cause hickups
[00:16] <ochosi> was there a specific/good reason for this?
[00:17] <Unit193> You can install both.  If you install the core though, you're more likely to have a clue in general and not likely to "upgrade" to desktop.
[00:17] <ochosi> yeah, but what would be the reason to include two different lockers?
[00:18] <Unit193> Just wasn't added, mainly.  core doesn't depend on any locker.
[00:18] <ochosi> so xscreensaver implicitely gets pulled into core?
[00:19] <Unit193> Yep.
[00:20] <ochosi> hmm
[00:20] <ochosi> i'm not a huge fan, let's put it this way
[00:20] <ochosi> and i don't see a good reason to (potentially) include two different lockers
[00:21] <Unit193> ochosi: Just flip  * (light-locker)  to the 'other' section in core, problem solved.
[00:22] <ochosi> yup, +1 on that
[00:22] <ochosi> bluesabre: ^ ?
[00:22] <ochosi> brb
[00:23] <bluesabre> probably be a worthwhile change
[00:23]  * Unit193 calls 'not it' on this one.
[00:23] <elfy> :)
[00:27] <bluesabre> alrighty
[00:28] <Unit193> Later on I'll actually sort the whole seed...
[00:29] <elfy> Unit193: so during the meeting today there's "ACTION: Unit193 to tie up with elfy for xubuntu-core upgrade testing needs " which was about the core upgrade issue
[00:29] <elfy> nicely got 2 pings in there
[00:29] <bluesabre> Unit193: lol, tempted to upload this
[00:29] <bluesabre> "d/p/lid-closed.patch: Take patch from upstream branch that does something."
[00:29] <elfy> heh
[00:30] <Unit193> bluesabre: Well you told me to package it, but I hadn't paid enough attention as to what it did. :P
[00:30] <bluesabre> (same here)
[00:30] <bluesabre> I'll reword it a bit
[00:31] <Unit193> Oh, you're actually uploading that?  I thought it was for a PPA. ;P
[00:31] <Unit193> bluesabre: Danke.
[00:31] <Unit193> elfy: Right, well only way to test right now would be for me to throw up a mirror of their upgrade stuff. :P
[00:31] <Unit193> Do I need to do that?
[00:33] <elfy> Unit193: well
[00:34] <elfy> the way I see it currently - is there any rush for it?
[00:34] <Unit193> Hope not.
[00:34] <Unit193> Heck, don't think it's on a blueprint so it must not be that important.
[00:34] <elfy> if not would we not be better to work out exactly what scenarios we need to test first?
[00:34] <elfy> Unit193: yea - it's post -blueprint :)
[00:37] <elfy> I just wonder if we get it on something now (BP) as an exercise in working out what needs to be done
[00:37] <elfy> then use next cycle to test it properly - so it's mostly done for LTS
[00:43] <elfy> Unit193: ^^ does that make sense? not sure what time frame we've got here ofc
[00:43] <elfy> QA <- last to know ...
[00:43] <elfy> :D
[01:19] <ochosi> folks, with the latest release of libxfce4ui we should check whether shortcuts with and without the Super key still work
[01:19] <ochosi> regression-testing against this bug: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10373
[01:20] <ochosi> there used to be a launchpad report for that too, can't seem to find it now
[01:20] <elfy> given that I make an inordinate amount of use of Super I'll look forward to seeing that land in ppa :)
[01:20] <ochosi> heh
[01:20] <ochosi> good good
[01:20] <ochosi> just wanted to let you know in advance
[01:21] <bluesabre> should land in vivid soon
[01:21] <elfy> no media kbd here ochosi
[01:21] <ochosi> so if you notice a problem between "super + shift + a" and "super + a" you'll know where to look
[01:21] <ochosi> (as an example ^ )
[01:21] <elfy> so Super+various Fx buttons control music here
[01:21] <ochosi> k
[01:22] <ochosi> try super plus a modifier like shift
[01:22] <ochosi> that is reportedly a good way to reproduce the bug
[01:22] <elfy> yep
[01:22] <elfy> once I see it land I'll change them all
[01:22] <knome> ochosi, elfy: re website: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/.webdev/x-desk-lap.png
[01:22] <elfy> if I see it I will tell you :D
[01:22] <knome> "Desktop and Laptops alike..."
[01:22] <knome> +s
[01:22] <ochosi> a bit sketchy
[01:22] <elfy> yay
[01:23] <ochosi> but why not
[01:23] <knome> ochosi, i thought you ack'd that direction :P
[01:23] <ochosi> yeah yeah :)
[01:23] <elfy> Roobarb and Custard
[01:23] <elfy> love it :)
[01:23] <ochosi> heh
[01:23] <knome> that being public, i'm taking in all suggestions of artwork that we could use on the website
[01:24] <knome> eg. if you have an idea of a drawing we could have on the tour page, tell me
[01:24] <knome> bluesabre, Unit193: ping since you're here anyway ^
[01:24] <knome> sidi isn't allowed to comment.
[01:24] <elfy> I /ignore anyway :p
[01:26]  * sidi comments.
[01:26] <elfy> I didn't see that
[01:26] <elfy> :p
[01:27] <ochosi> knome: the more i look at it the more i like it
[01:27] <knome> mhm, i was considering adding some kind of pencil-drawing filter to it
[01:28] <knome> to make it even a bit rougher...
[01:28] <elfy> I like that my pen slipped sideways as I drew art :)
[01:28] <ochosi> knome: yeah, that could work
[01:28] <knome> we can definitely straighten up some of the lines if that makes this feel clumsy
[01:29] <knome> thing is, it would need to be an inkscape filter...
[01:31] <elfy> oh words ...
[01:33] <ochosi> knome: nah, not sure straightening would be a good idea
[01:33] <ochosi> but feel free to give it a shot if you disagree
[01:33] <knome> well not completely
[01:33] <ochosi> wow, didrocks and pitti contributed to systemd
[01:34] <Unit193> Of course pitti did.
[01:35] <bluesabre> It's a pitty ochosi didn't expect that
[01:35] <bluesabre> It's a pitti ochosi didn't expect that
[01:35] <bluesabre> joke's not funny once I screw it up :'(
[01:35] <ochosi> oh, pun times
[01:38] <knome> haha
[01:39] <knome> ochosi, you mean phun times?
[01:39] <ochosi> :]
[02:02] <ochosi> Unit193: quick comment, i can't technically approve/reject that MR, i can only approve/reject the intention: https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubuntu-release-upgrader/core-upgrades/+merge/250224
[02:02] <ochosi> but i presume you're primarily looking for the latter anyway
[02:04] <ochosi> anyway, i can also ack that tomorrow
[02:04] <ochosi> night all
[02:04] <knome> nighty ochosi
[02:05] <knome> and with that, i'm out too
[02:05] <knome> nighty everybody
[02:05] <Unit193> G'night.
[02:46]  * bluesabre works on image testing until bed time
[02:48] <elfy> what a lovely chap
[02:49] <elfy> as long as you noticed my ping about 32bit :)
[02:49] <bluesabre> yes, that's what I'm doing
[02:49] <elfy> what a lovely chap
[02:49] <elfy> :)
[02:49] <elfy> any smoketests on those is one less I'll do tomorrow ;)
[02:50] <bluesabre> jjfrv8 also seems to have kick some 32bit butt today too
[02:50] <bluesabre> +ed
[02:50] <elfy> really
[02:50] <elfy> >
[02:50] <elfy> usually slickymaster hammers into 32 bit and jjfrv8 64bit
[02:51]  * elfy has numbers ;)
[02:51] <bluesabre> heh
[09:23] <Akusari> good morning! I hope everything runs fine with the releasing
[09:23] <ochosi> morning everyone
[09:38] <ochosi> Unit193: you haven't really replied to my MR question yesterday
[10:07] <knome> ochosi, almost the last chance... is there something in the staging site that irks you before i start the process to push it to production?
[10:08] <knome> ochosi, the last thing i'm going to look at now is the header background, which has been WIP/PoC for now
[10:08] <knome> and i'll do other things before that, so you have approx. a few hours to reply :)
[10:11] <ochosi> approx a few? :D
[10:11] <ochosi> k, i'll take a look in a bit
[10:11] <ochosi> but since i monitored it's progress continuously (more or less), i think i'll just be fine with it
[10:12] <knome> well, i have no idea how long it'll take to do those $other_things, nor how long i'll poke around with the header img
[10:12] <knome> but it's 1+ h for sure until i do the IS ticket
[10:12] <ochosi> k k
[10:13] <knome> i have small updates planned for a 2.0 version for this theme, so it's also possible to postpone other things for that
[10:13] <knome> slickymasterWork, you too, last chance to whine about the staging site, will start the process later today
[10:14]  * slickymasterWork is no whiner :P
[10:14] <knome> :P
[10:14] <slickymasterWork> and won't start now
[10:14] <knome> sorry, winer :P
[10:14] <slickymasterWork> I already told you knome that I liked it
[10:14] <knome> i know
[10:15] <slickymasterWork> so no whining from this side
[10:15] <knome> but it's always different when i threat clients with "now i'm going to push it to production"
[10:15] <knome> they always find things to nag about then
[10:15] <knome> that's why i've started doing fake calls for pushing :P
[10:15] <slickymasterWork> you have my thumbs up
[10:16] <slickymasterWork> not sure if you noted knome, but I pushed a small change to the opening paragraph of the index yesterday
[10:17] <elfy> mmm - so I've got like about 25 things to whine about that
[10:17] <knome> elfy, go ahead ;))
[10:17] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy
[10:17] <elfy> :)
[10:17] <knome> slickymasterWork, nope, but good good :P
[10:17] <knome> elfy, even if you had... this would be a good time to tell them
[10:17] <knome> elfy, i changed the menu arrows a bit today
[10:18] <elfy> knome: I can tell
[10:18] <knome> not much and the logic/feature is still the same
[10:18] <knome> except it also has one more logic error fixed :D
[10:19] <knome> but i'm off for some real work now
[10:20] <elfy> :)
[10:20] <knome> will read the rants when i'm back
[10:20] <knome> -->
[10:37] <elfy> ochosi bluesabre - ok then - all trusty images tested, I'm good to mark ready if you 2 are
[10:37] <elfy> next thing ... release notes for it
[10:38] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy, I'm still testing :P
[10:38] <elfy> :)
[10:53] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Are you available?
[10:53] <ochosi> @work, so only so-so
[10:53] <meetingology> ochosi: Error: "work," is not a valid command.
[10:54] <ochosi> good point, meetingology :)
[10:54] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I see you add Ubiquity panel compatibility to greybird.
[10:54] <ochosi> oh right, that
[10:55] <ochosi> well that's only a very trivial patch to show a custom background on ubiquity's panel
[10:55] <flexiondotorg> Which required a new image, right? Anything else?
[10:55] <ochosi> that is if you use/show that panel
[10:55] <ochosi> (although i think you should, mostly xfwm4/xfce was exempt of showing it)
[10:55] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, So I do use the ubiquity-dm and it's panel.
[10:55] <ochosi> it's a new image-bg and you also need to patch ubiquity
[10:55] <ochosi> lemme dig up my patch (it's really trivial)
[10:55] <flexiondotorg> By default, the ubiquity panel is themed like Ambiance.
[10:56] <ochosi> there you go: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/ubiquity/xubuntu-panel-bg/+merge/247001
[10:56] <ochosi> yes, indeed
[10:56] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Thanks very much.
[10:57] <ochosi> n
[10:57] <ochosi> np
[10:57] <ochosi> elfy: almost there, i'll do a quick smoketest for 14.04.2 myself in a few
[10:58] <elfy> \o/
[11:19] <ochosi> phew, zsync finally finished
[11:19] <ochosi> brb
[11:21] <bluesabre> elfy: a-ok from me
[11:25]  * ochosi already boots the vm
[11:25] <ochosi> can't take much longer i guess
[11:26] <ochosi> elfy: the black bg on the try/install ubiquity screen is still expected in 14.04.2?
[11:28] <elfy> afaik - certainly not seen that any different since last year
[11:28] <ochosi> guess we could've backported the fix from vivid, then again...
[11:28] <ochosi> it's not really that crucial
[11:28] <elfy> yep
[11:29] <ochosi> ok, live-session looks good.
[11:29] <elfy> :)
[11:29] <ochosi> certainly a good start :)
[11:30] <elfy> :D
[11:30] <elfy> better than 2 weeks ago for sure :p
[11:30] <ochosi> knome: even a year later, i still like the trusty wp, nice work on that one
[11:32] <elfy> bluesabre: by any chance got a list of fixes that made it back to trusty since .1  for the release notes?
[11:34] <bluesabre> not a good one, several of our updates got stopped because they introduced a flurry of new bugs
[11:35] <ochosi> "14.04.2 Release notes: This release contains *moar fixes*."
[11:37] <bluesabre> looks like this one is in -updates
[11:37] <bluesabre> xfdesktop4 (4.11.8-0ubuntu0.1)
[11:38] <bluesabre>   * New upstream development and bugfix release (LP: #1365965)
[11:38] <bluesabre>   * debian/patches/xubuntu_set-accountsservice-user-bg.patch: update
[11:38] <bluesabre>     patch to only update on first workspace filename change
[11:38] <bluesabre>  -- Sean Davis<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:53:04 -0400
[11:38] <bluesabre> xubuntu-default-settings (14.04.6) trusty; urgency=medium
[11:38] <bluesabre>   [ Bruno Nova ]
[11:38] <bluesabre>   * etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus/xfce-applications.menu
[11:38] <bluesabre>   - Add Settings submenu to main menu to make launchers in the Settings
[11:38] <bluesabre>     category appear in Whisker menu (LP: #1310264)
[11:39] <bluesabre>  -- Sebastien Bacher<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:19:10 +0100
[11:40] <elfy> I've got draft .2 started on x.org - running off for a bit to do some things before the day runs away
[11:40] <elfy> bluesabre: thanks for ^^
[11:41] <bluesabre> going through http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/allpackages to see if there is anything else since .1
[11:41] <ochosi> elfy: ok, smoketest completed, looks fine to me!
[11:44] <bluesabre> xfce4-weather-plugin (0.8.3-1ubuntu0.1) trusty; urgency=medium
[11:44] <bluesabre>   * Add patches from upstream git to use locationforcast-1.2 (LP: #1377612)
[11:44] <bluesabre>  -- Sean Davis<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:12:57 -0400
[11:45] <bluesabre> the usual firefox, thunderbird updates
[11:45] <elfy> ochosi: ta - I assume that's an ack to mark ready :)
[11:45] <ochosi> yup
[11:46] <bluesabre> xchat (did we ship that for trusty?), pidgin both have had security updates (POODLE, etc)
[11:46] <bluesabre> that seems to be it
[11:46] <elfy> ok thanks :)
[11:46] <ochosi> brb
[11:46] <elfy> biab
[11:47] <bluesabre> byob
[12:02] <knome> ochosi, mhm, it's better than utopic...
[12:07] <knome> now for some stretching and then preparing the website push...
[12:09] <knome> FINALLY
[12:09] <ochosi> indeed
[12:10] <bluesabre> :D
[12:10] <bluesabre> :D :D
[12:10] <bluesabre> :D :D :D
[12:11] <knome> ochosi, one question
[12:11] <knome> ochosi, in the screenshots page, do you prefer the current order, or would you like to see the page content before the screenshots?
[12:52] <bluesabre> Unit193: how long does it take for germinate to recognize a new package?
[12:52] <bluesabre> ? Unknown desktop package: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings
[12:53] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[12:53] <ochosi> ttyl
[12:57] <knome> ochosi, did you see my question?
[12:59] <ochosi> knome: sorry, was distracted with other stuff
[12:59] <ochosi> do you have some links for me? (current vs proposed)
[13:00] <knome> no, i only have the current style
[13:00] <knome> and it's on the staging site :P
[13:00] <knome> which i apparently just broke
[13:00] <ochosi> just wanted to say, i don't see anything there :D
[13:01] <elfy> best version ever
[13:04] <knome> yes
[13:10] <elfy> 94 tests reported for trusty .2 :)
[13:12] <knome> nice
[13:14] <ochosi> awesome
[15:31] <Unit193> bluesabre: Has to get out of -proposed.
[15:53] <slickymasterWork> elfy, can you try to reproduce and confirm bug 1423602
[15:55] <ochosi> apart from theming issues, this works surprisingly well... http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/use-global-menu-in-xubuntu-or-linux.html
[15:55] <ochosi> (i know sean already linked it in -ot)
[15:56] <knome> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/theme/revision/57
[16:03] <elfy> slickymasterWork: is pkexec even in trusty?
[16:03] <elfy> was it not brought in during utopic?
[16:03] <slickymasterWork> yes, it was
[16:03] <slickymasterWork> damn
[16:04] <slickymasterWork> I have way to many virtual boxes
[16:04] <elfy> :D
[16:04] <knome> elfy, did you see the latest header bg?
[16:04] <elfy> try it here I've got a bunch of those open and I'm trying to work kvm out too
[16:04]  * slickymasterWork as to clean up is virtual environment
[16:04] <knome> elfy, ^ it's pushed now so no complaints, but for the laughs :P
[16:05] <elfy> knome: not sure what I should be seeing here :)
[16:05] <knome> elfy, make sure you double refresh
[16:06] <knome> elfy, once you're done, you should see blueish blues
[16:06] <knome> elfy, instead of cyanish blues
[16:06] <elfy> in staging?
[16:06] <knome> elfy, and some lines instead of blurred spots
[16:06] <knome> yapp
[16:06] <Unit193> So 4 new po files, lost fr and picked up de.
[16:06] <Akusari> hello! I hope the release day was or is still successful :-)
[16:07] <elfy> knome: I see a slightly darker triangle at right top
[16:07] <knome> elfy, yes, that must be it ;)
[16:07] <elfy> :)
[16:07] <elfy> Akusari: on going ...
[16:08] <knome> are you sure it's a triangular triangle?
[16:08] <knome> ...
[16:08] <elfy> well it's got three angles ...
[16:08] <knome> what if the rest are hiding?
[16:08] <elfy> then they're doing an awesome job :D
[16:08] <knome> they actually are ;)
[16:09] <knome> yep
[16:18] <Unit193> Hm.  We'll actually need to poke the wallpaper before release because of UIF.
[16:18] <knome> yes.. how so? :)
[16:22] <elfy> right - going to try and crack out the basic release note so that someone else can make it pretty and friendly
[16:31] <slickymasterWork> knome, the finnish strings that presently are having issues with the whitespaces within tags -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10310226
[16:32] <knome> because <placeholder-1/> ?
[16:33] <elfy> ochosi knome : draft release notes at x.org now should be ok - obviously not got download links yet
[16:33] <ochosi> elfy: awesome! thanks a lot for taking care of that
[16:34] <slickymasterWork> can't say exactly why knome. There's also issues with ? </guilabel>
[16:34] <slickymasterWork> ? </guimenuitem>
[16:35] <knome> why would there be?
[16:35] <elfy> ochosi: welcome ofc
[16:35] <knome> that's completely normal
[16:35] <slickymasterWork> duno
[16:35] <knome> well get your act togerther before you tell me my strings are broken ;)
[16:43] <qwebirc645608> knome, why do we have those extra spaces in between tags in the first place?
[16:44] <knome> which tags?
[16:44] <qwebirc645608> is it something forced by DocBook markup?
[16:44] <knome> the space between the placeholders and the text after that is intentional
[16:44] <qwebirc645608> this for example ->  <filename><placeholder-1/> /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/</filename>
[16:44] <qwebirc645608> can you explaine me the reason?
[16:44] <knome> it makes the space between the icon (placeholder) and the text part sane
[16:44] <qwebirc645608> -e
[16:45] <knome> we could do that even without that space in the markup, but now that it is like it is...
[16:45] <knome> one whitespace is meaningful
[16:45] <qwebirc645608> hmmm, ok
[16:45] <knome> as long as it's outside tags
[16:59] <slickymasterWork> es.po presently has 7 strings with invalid markup -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10310596/
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> fr.po presently has 1 string with invalid markup -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10310613/
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> knome: ^^
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> I think of downloading those two correct the markup and upload them back
[17:01] <slickymasterWork> any argues with that?
[17:01] <slickymasterWork> s/I/I'm
[17:15] <elfy> ochosi: we going to do wiki release notes? there should be the common bugs list available for that
[17:16]  * ochosi shrugs
[17:16] <ochosi> why not
[17:17] <elfy> I'll see if there's a .1 to base off
[17:18] <ochosi> cool cool
[17:36] <Unit193> Right, so merge "needs information"...
[17:36] <Unit193> I'm having an elfy moment.
[17:39] <ochosi> you could discuss it with bdmurray directly on irc as well
[17:40]  * ochosi wasn't aware that "having an elfy moment" was a thing
[17:40] <elfy> lol
[17:41] <elfy> ochosi: re wiki release note - seems we just linked to the main 14.04 one
[17:43] <Unit193> It's not, I'm just bad.
[17:44] <elfy> mmm
[17:44] <elfy> so an elfy moment is being bad :(
[17:50] <ochosi> lol
[17:50] <ochosi> poor elfy
[17:50]  * ochosi pats elfy on the head
[17:51] <ochosi> elfy: i'm fine with doing that again...
[17:51] <ochosi> (and now that you mention it i remember)
[17:52] <elfy> though ... i'm going to try running something for infinity which drags common bugs and fixes - so it may be worth doing a .2 page
[17:52] <elfy> .1 was really the first release
[17:53] <knome> everybody interested, RT ticket 26131 for the website process
[17:53] <knome> ochosi, pleia2: you're CC'd on the website push ticket
[17:54] <ochosi> elfy: ok, that's totally fine as well
[17:54] <elfy> knome: thanks - I'll add it to my list of 100 rt tickets :p
[20:33] <Unit193> bluesabre: You may have to poke someone about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings to get it to migrate so you can update -meta before the end of the day.
[21:01] <andrzejr> Is there any way to push unity guys to release their stuff? I wanted to use a "libido" library but the latest released version is 12.10: https://launchpad.net/ido/12.10/12.10.2
[21:01] <andrzejr> there were quite a few unreleased versions since
[21:01] <knome> andrzejr, if there is, it's not whining in this channel ;)
[21:02] <andrzejr> Is this intentional? I mean, are they trying to make this framework Ubuntu only?
[21:02] <knome> no idea, you really should talk with them
[21:03] <andrzejr> It is not whining - I'm seriously considering using this lib but I need to know what is their development plan
[21:05] <Unit193> Honestly, it does kind of seem like they only want that stuff in house. :P
[21:05] <knome> you won't find unity developers here though, so what's the agenda?
[21:05] <elfy> got some r/l for a while - draft notes on x.org and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr.2/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu drafted
[21:05] <Unit193> andrzejr: They all hang out in #ubuntu-desktop.
[21:06] <andrzejr> thanks Unit193
[21:06] <Unit193> andrzejr: Good luck, you're going to need it.
[21:09] <elfy> and there's not an Ubuntu general known issue page, but there is a change summary for .2 if we want to <<include>> that
[21:09] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.2
[21:14] <jjfrv8> elfy, looks like both 32 and 64-bit versions of today's vivid daily have the missing try/install problem.
[21:14] <jjfrv8> in vbox, that is
[21:15] <elfy> ok thanks, not had time to even think about those today :)
[21:16] <elfy> going to set up kvm - seems that we'd get more traction if can reproduce in there
[21:16] <elfy> tomorrow's task ;)
[21:20] <Unit193> qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -boot d -m 2048 -cdrom 'openbox-desktop-14.04-amd64.iso' -localtime
[21:21] <elfy> Unit193: I managed to get it half set up - then it kept whining about disk space - I want it to use space on other drives
[21:21] <elfy> be tomorrow - got r/l walking up the road now :)
[21:37] <slickymaster> knome, Unit193 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/02/19/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t16:59
[21:37] <slickymaster> just so you know
[21:38] <knome> no complaints
[21:38] <slickymaster> ack knome
[21:40] <Unit193> Okay..
[21:47] <ochosi> andrzejr: i think tedg and larsu (re: libido and libindicator) are in a european timezone, but if you want i can ping them tomorrow about this
[21:50] <andrzejr> ochosi, thanks, that would be helpful. I've sent an email to charles and asked the question on #ubuntu-desktop. Since the license of ido is compatible (lgpl 2) it may be possible to simply distribute a couple of files with the plugin.
[21:51] <ochosi> sure, no problem!
[21:52] <ochosi> andrzejr: btw, if you and eric (and maybe even matias) really plan to work on the pulseaudio plugin, i can sit down and draw some serious mockups
[21:53] <andrzejr> is eric interested? I haven't heard from him about it.
[21:53] <Unit193> Check users ml.
[21:54] <ochosi> yeah, he and matias both replied there
[21:54] <ochosi> and in fact it's true that the xfpm plugin uses a similar layout
[21:54] <ochosi> so it shouldn't be too hard to port that over
[21:55] <ochosi> then again, i still think it'd be ideal to start doing that in gtk3
[21:55] <ochosi> so that the xfpm plugin can benefit too
[21:57] <andrzejr> yup, xfpm menu is a good start.
[22:04] <jjfrv8> ochosi, having a little trouble getting things to look right in latest vivid version: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/xfwm.php
[22:04] <jjfrv8> I've got all these settings: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds-xfdesktop
[22:04] <jjfrv8> has something changed with the recent packages?
[22:04] <ochosi> yeah, that looks ok
[22:06] <slickymaster> yeah, but jjfrv8 is right, that's completely different from what we always use
[22:06] <ochosi> the window border theme has
[22:08] <ochosi> i don't think other things should have
[22:09] <jjfrv8> so you're saying go with it like shown?
[22:09] <ochosi> i'd say so, but lemme quickly check in #xfce-dev
[22:12] <ochosi> jjfrv8: ok, suggestion: we start out without the screenshots and i'll come up with a strategy tomorrow
[22:12] <jjfrv8> wfm
[22:12] <ochosi> it's possible we'll go for something completely different
[22:12] <ochosi> e.g. adwaita or greybird
[22:13] <ochosi> nobody really uses the xfce themes anyway...
[22:13] <ochosi> so the "reference factor" seems low
[22:13] <jjfrv8> ok
[22:22] <Unit193> bluesabre: Weren't you going to commit something to the seed before EOD today?
[22:41] <bluesabre> Unit193: just got home
[22:41] <Unit193> Good for youuuuu./
[22:41] <Unit193> Did you have a nice drive?  :D
[22:47] <knome> wat?
 bluesabre: I'm mildly entertained that the only translation that contains is Russian. :)
[22:48] <knome> what then?
[22:48] <knome> cia-handbook?
[22:48] <bluesabre> lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings
[22:48] <knome> :)
[22:48] <bluesabre> which is an alternate to cia-handbook
[22:48] <bluesabre> provide the same binaries
[22:49] <ochosi> haha
[22:49] <knome> point me to the translation interfaceeeh
[22:49] <knome> i'll tap it in today, so infinity can be more entertained
[22:51] <bluesabre> https://translations.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings
[22:51] <knome> tat-tara
[22:51] <ochosi> knome: you mean infinity lulz?
[22:51] <knome> ochosi, DA
[22:51] <bluesabre> saw the awesome news that translations should no longer timeout all the time
[22:52] <ochosi> hah, for realz?
[22:53] <bluesabre> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2015-February/006773.html
[22:56] <elfy> evening bluesabre
[22:56] <bluesabre> hey elfy
[22:57] <elfy> and the rest too of course :)
[22:57] <bluesabre> getting to relax a bit now?
[22:57] <elfy> kind of
[22:59] <elfy> bluesabre: doing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.2 wasn't particularly relaxing given that the script to get info from launchpad did what you'd expect
[22:59] <elfy> timeout a lot ...
[23:00] <slickymaster> yeah bluesabre, for those translating in LP, with Rosetta, those constant time-outs are/were a real pain in the neck
[23:01] <bluesabre> lp = "later please"
[23:01] <ochosi> lol
[23:01] <elfy> ha ha ha
[23:01] <ochosi> nice one
[23:01] <ochosi> i'll remember that
[23:01] <knome> hmm, i could come up with other acronyms
[23:01] <knome> but i'll keep them to myself
[23:01] <knome> :P
[23:01] <elfy> ok - so now that we've got links has anyone done the release notes? and posted it?
[23:01] <knome> no
[23:01]  * knome hides
[23:04] <elfy> can someone check over http://xubuntu.org/?p=2951&preview=true then please :)
[23:05] <elfy> or http://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=2951&action=edit
[23:05]  * knome checks and at the same time, hopes the new theme would be up already
[23:05] <knome> looks good to me
[23:06]  * knome remembers the download links should be updated
[23:07] <knome> elfy, tell me when you've posted and i'll hit the update button on the download page
[23:09] <bluesabre> looks good to me as well
[23:10] <elfy> bluesabre: has lock - can post it :)
[23:10] <bluesabre> crud
[23:10] <ochosi> looks good to me too
[23:10]  * bluesabre lets go of lock
[23:10] <ochosi> even trustier tahr
[23:11] <elfy> bluesabre: GO !!!
[23:11] <knome> thrustier :P
[23:11] <elfy> then tell knome :)
[23:11]  * bluesabre cannot publish
[23:11] <bluesabre> only submit for review
[23:11] <knome> bwaha
[23:11] <elfy> published then
[23:11] <knome> updated
[23:11] <elfy> knome: I published it :p
[23:11] <knome> too late
[23:11] <knome> :(
[23:11] <elfy> bah
[23:12] <elfy> blame slickymaster
[23:12] <bluesabre> #undo
[23:12] <slickymaster> wtf elfy !?!
[23:12] <elfy> hi slickymaster :D
[23:12] <knome> slickymaster, tut tut, watch the language
[23:12] <slickymaster> it's in your mind only knome :P
[23:12] <slickymaster> ñot in mine's
[23:12] <slickymaster> WhatTheFunk
[23:13] <knome> slickymaster, señor coconut is steady now.
[23:13] <slickymaster> lol
[23:13] <elfy> oh buggar
[23:13]  * bluesabre keeps hitting update until "? Unknown desktop package: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings" goes away
[23:13] <knome> :D
[23:17] <elfy> fiddled about with some wiki and x.org info so it's current
[23:17] <knome> for all you good people who worked on 14.04.2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kJJXqihboE
[23:18] <bluesabre> better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF5C04CB-VQ
[23:18] <knome> bluesabre, you are trolling me :(
[23:18] <slickymaster> lmao bluesabre
[23:19] <bluesabre> knome: surely not
[23:33] <Unit193> Eh, I'd look into updating thunar, but so many LP bugs. :3
[23:34] <bluesabre> >.<
[23:35] <Unit193> No really, '40 new', and this seems to be a bugfix release. :/
[23:35] <bluesabre> yeesh
[23:36] <elfy> oh noes :(
[23:36] <elfy> indicator-sound update :|
[23:36] <Unit193> Oh gee.
[23:36] <bluesabre> hiiiiiide
[23:37] <elfy> sigh
[23:39] <elfy> and it's broken it ...
[23:39] <elfy> pavucontrol won't start from there
[23:39] <Unit193> Really? >_<
[23:39] <elfy> yep
[23:42] <Unit193> So, might be time to check out xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin afterall...
[23:42] <elfy> so how can I mark bug 1423752 as a regression?
[23:43] <ochosi> hmpf
[23:43] <ochosi> great
[23:44] <ochosi> i'll check tomorrow and fix it then i guess :/
[23:44] <elfy> how can it be you?
[23:44] <ochosi> what?
[23:44] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#line-152
[23:45] <elfy> lol - talking about different things I hope then ochosi :)
[23:45] <bluesabre> Unit193: look good? https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/vivid/xubuntu-meta/vivid/revision/217
[23:45] <Unit193> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/198208378/indicator-sound_12.10.2%2B15.04.20150205-0ubuntu1_12.10.2%2B15.04.20150219.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[23:45] <elfy> knome: thanks :)
[23:45] <ochosi> elfy: didn't you say the most recent update for indicator-sound broke the pavucotnrol link?
[23:46] <elfy> ochosi: yes - but I blame Ubuntu for that :)
[23:46] <Unit193> krytarik: Look, should be happy now. :P
[23:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: Aye!
[23:46] <knome> deja vu...
[23:46] <ochosi> elfy: me too, but as i said, i'll look into tomorrow
[23:47] <ochosi> can't be too hard to fix that part
[23:47] <knome> ochosi, famous last words...
[23:47] <ochosi> hehe
[23:47] <elfy> tagged it
[23:47] <ochosi> elfy: add it to v-bugs too please
[23:47] <elfy> ochosi: okey doke
[23:48] <Unit193> bluesabre: Also, thanks for removing that file.
[23:48] <bluesabre> Unit193: noticed it was still lingering around :)
[23:49] <Unit193> Seed looks good too.
[23:49] <krytarik> Unit193, bluesabre: light-locker is still in desktop recommends now. though.
[23:50] <Unit193> krytarik: As it should be.
[23:50] <ochosi> nice, it's FF and the features blueprint is almost complete
[23:50] <Unit193> krytarik: Just the double xubuntu-core isn't.
[23:50] <ochosi> great work folks!
[23:50] <elfy> :)
[23:52] <krytarik> Unit193: Wasn't it planned to *move* it to -core, rather than just *add* it? The last paste also indicated otherwise.
[23:53] <Unit193> krytarik: At this point, you can't "move" anything to the core, since desktop is a layer atop of it.  Also note that this is the meta refresh, not the seed commit.
[23:53] <krytarik> The seeds are fine though indeed.


[00:30] <AskUbuntu> Where is the unofficial toro (most recent) version? | http://askubuntu.com/q/312322
[01:41] <TetraFlash> trying manual install of ubuntu touch since I have a windows PC (and not enough room for a ubuntu partition right now)
[01:41] <TetraFlash> not going well
[01:42] <TetraFlash> when I have my device in recovery mode I cannot use the push command
[01:42] <TetraFlash> it gives me "error: closed"
[01:43] <TetraFlash> I can push no problem when booted into android with debug on... but following the steps for manual install in that mode doesnt do anything at all
[01:43] <TetraFlash> anyone able to help?
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> TetraFlash, You could use a ubuntu live cd to load it.
[01:44] <TetraFlash> haha thought of that too... cant find a damn blank to save my life
[01:44] <TetraFlash> tried installing ubuntu in virtualbox... that went just as poor... not my day haha
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> no usb's?
[01:45] <sergiusens> TetraFlash: there's adb for Windows as well...
[01:46] <TetraFlash> sergiusens: I am using adb for windows and when my device is recovery mode and I attempt "adb push...." it says "error: closed"
[01:46] <sergiusens> TetraFlash: oh, can't help with that, but it's sometimes solve by just restarting adb
[01:47] <TetraFlash> wilee-nilee: none... I was really hoping the manual method would work for me
[01:47] <TetraFlash> sergiusens: I did try that... perhaps a system restart could help
[01:48] <TetraFlash> im going to try a system reboot for the adb driver I installed... perhaps that will help
[01:56] <AskUbuntu> when is the consumer ubuntu touch image set to release | http://askubuntu.com/q/312347
[02:09] <kalakj> hellO EVERYONE
[02:09] <kalakj> I AM HAVING A modem
[02:09] <kalakj> which is working properly but i am unable to send USSD
[02:09] <kalakj> and check my balance
[02:09] <kalakj> how to do that
[02:12] <awe> kalakj, you can't...  USSD functions have not been implemented yet.
[02:13] <kalakj> ahhh, this should be there for prepaid customers
[02:13] <kalakj> when there is meter on your internet usage
[02:13] <awe> yes, I know
[02:13] <awe> it will be in the final product
[02:14] <awe> but probably won't be available in our images till sometime later this Summer
[02:39] <cdesai> sergiusens: thanks
[06:49] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <usman> how to install ubuntu in galaxy s3 T- Mobile
[07:12] <usman> anyone plz tell me. how to install ubuntu in galaxy s3 T- Mobile?
[07:13] <RAOF> I'm not sure if that's been ported?
[07:14] <RAOF> usman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices is the wiki page you're looking for.
[07:52] <popey> Hmm, flipped image 20130624 on mako has no network on first boot... works on second boot
[07:57] <JamesTait> Good morning all! :)
[08:42] <phix> I think ubuntu touch is what I am after, or do I want ubuntu arm?
[08:42] <phix> ZTE V9 is the device
[08:43] <RAOF> phix: Depends on what you're after. Do you want a phone operating system?
[08:45] <phix> I want Ubuntu on my tablet, I want it to work :)  Don't really care if it is the full blown Ubuntu or a stripped down version, aslong as it works :)
[08:47] <phix> I don't really want to make phone calls on it if that is the question, I want to use it more as a desktop
[08:47] <RAOF> Then you want the arm builds of regular desktop Ubuntu.
[08:47] <RAOF> Until we've got more of the phone-tablet-desktop convergency bit happening :)
[08:48] <phix> ah ok, is that in the mix?
[08:49] <phix> RAOF: Which version will run better on a lower powered / resourced tablet?
[08:50] <RAOF> Well, Ubuntu Touch is not like a desktop at all.
[08:50] <RAOF> So it's difficult to really make any comparisons :)
[08:53] <phix> 512Mb ROM, 512Mb RAM, 2Gb SD, ARMv6 rev 5 (399 bogomips lol) 7" TFT Resistive touch screen
[08:54] <phix> RAOF: I supose my question was more of which verison will run faster on a crappier tablet
[08:55] <popey> thats not a spectacular set of specs phix
[08:55] <RAOF> armv6? I'm not sure we actually support that architecture.
[08:55] <phix> popey: IKnow
[08:55] <phix> ah ok, so it is arm 7 and above?
[08:55] <popey> yes
[08:55] <phix> ok, that's all I really wanted to know :)
[09:00] <popey> phix: thanks for dropping by
[09:03] <phix> Any time popey
[09:03] <m-b-o> hey, I have a QML question:
[09:03] <m-b-o> Are there any signal available when "ToolbarItems.back" is triggered? For ToolbarActions.back  there was onTriggered()
[09:03] <phix> popey: I am considering getting a nexus 10 and assist in testing and development if possible
[09:04] <popey> phix: that would be awesome, I don't think as many people test on the Nexus 10 as the Nexus 4 and nexus 7.. so that would be very helpful
[10:11] <ogra_> popey, do you happen to run a flipped image on your N4 ?
[10:11]  * ogra_ is looking for /var/log/udev and /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules from such an install
[10:12] <popey> yes
[10:12] <popey> ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798095/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798096/
[10:12] <ogra_> thx !
[10:13] <mehow> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trbtVeUj664&hd=1
[11:31] <nik90> mehow: ping
[11:58] <AskUbuntu> Error while executing standard Ubuntu Touch program | http://askubuntu.com/q/312507
[12:36] <AskUbuntu> Is a nook reader app for ubuntu touch being developed? | http://askubuntu.com/q/312522
[13:09] <nik90> popey: are you in the mood for some testing :) ?
[13:11] <nik90> or mhall119?
[13:12] <popey> nik90: always!
[13:13] <nik90> popey: Awesome :D
[13:13] <nik90> popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/new-timer-design
[13:13] <nik90> popey: please check if the bug you reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1186396 is fixed
[13:13] <popey> k
[13:14] <popey> hmm, well this is sub-optimal. _all_ of the icons in the apps lens are blank
[13:14] <popey> and no text under them
[13:15]  * popey updates and upgrades and reboots
[13:20]  * nik90 waits eagerly for good news
[13:21] <popey> yeah, icons are back ☻
[13:22]  * popey adds bzr to his post-install script
[13:26] <popey> nik90: so, i rotate to start a time, and then hit the middle to start the timer?
[13:26] <nik90> yes
[13:27] <popey> hmm
[13:27] <popey> you might want to prevent people changing the time while the timer is running ☻
[13:28] <nik90> popey: yes, I removed that code and still need to add that bit
[13:28] <popey> nik90: it's supposed to clock up hours when rotating?
[13:28] <nik90> popey: not yet atleast.
[13:29] <popey> it only clocks hours, not minutes or seconds
[13:29] <nik90> popey: I am not sure if that is still required with the new visual designs
[13:29] <popey> let me get a video
[13:30] <nik90> popey: do you mean that if you set a timer for 04:30 it does not change the minutes but only the seconds?
[13:30] <davidcalle> Hello ubuntu-touch, I think I've done some bad things to my amd64 Saucy install and I would need a hand. It doesn't boot : it's now apparently trying to mount an android FS and (obviously) fails with "No root device found. Spawning adbd ..."
[13:31] <popey> nik90: easier to show you, uploading video now
[13:31] <ogra_> davidcalle, sounds like you installed initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch
[13:32] <ogra_> davidcalle, remove it in recovery mode, rebuild your initrd and you should be fine
[13:32] <cdesai> ogra_: where do you guys switch ramdisks in the android boot image (if that's what you do to the ones generated by the android build system) ?
[13:33] <ogra_> we dont switch ramdisks :)
[13:33] <FunkyPenguin> rsalveti: you're such a lier - the missing icons are still there after flashing just now ;-p
[13:33] <ogra_> the ubuntu initrd is  used to normally boot the ubuntu rootfs
[13:33] <ogra_> with only minor difference to a laptop or desktop install ...
[13:33] <popey> FunkyPenguin: i just had missing image, so I "adb shell" and then "apt-get update" then "apt-get upgrade" and "reboot" and it's all good again
[13:34] <ogra_> then ubuntu fires up an pxc container on boot which contains the whole android system (including the initrd)
[13:34] <davidcalle> ogra_, recovery mode fails to go to the point where it would give me a cli, but I have another partition here. /me chroots and tries
[13:34] <cdesai> okay, so let me rephrase it - where is the boot image assembled? (android kernel + ubuntu initrd = boot.img ?)
[13:35] <popey> nik90: http://youtu.be/LZspoyLsuqc it'll be there in ~3 mins or so
[13:35] <nik90> popey: okay. will take a look
[13:35] <ogra_> cdesai, during image build
[13:35] <popey> nik90: will do a video on the nexus 7 too in a moment
[13:35] <ogra_> cdesai, and yes, bootimg is exactly that
[13:36] <ogra_> cdesai, i'm working on a package containing a prebuilt generic initrd that can be used by porters
[13:36] <cdesai> ogra_: are the tools used to build the image open source? (I guess, if so, can you provide me with a launchpad link?)
[13:36] <cdesai> ogra_: yea that's what I wanted it for, porting :)
[13:37] <ogra_> and that will be integrated into the android boot.img creation process of phablet.ubuntu.com
[13:39] <ogra_> cdesai, the image creation infrastructure of ubuntu is quite complex (it builds all images of all possible supported ubuntu variants) ... essentially the touch images are built by live-build with configs that live in the livecd-rootfs package ... the whole thing is managed by cdimage (look it up on LP, there is a bzr branch for it)
[13:39] <ogra_> the former two are packaged, you can just apt-get source them
[13:40] <ogra_> to just roll an initrd you can just use a chroot though
[13:40] <popey> nik90: http://youtu.be/7x6g5tRtNBw is the video for the nexus 7, again will take some minutes to upload
[13:40] <ogra_> or just wait til tomottow, then i should have the initrd packaged
[13:41] <cdesai> I'll wait then, don't have ubuntu installed currently
[13:42] <nik90> popey: just saw your nexus 4 video. What I observed is that while trying to grab the hour hand, the upward animation steals it sometimes
[13:42] <morphis> awe: ping
[13:42] <popey> yes
[13:42] <nik90> popey: that can be fixed easily
[13:43] <popey> hard to grab the hand too
[13:43] <nik90> popey: however I do agree that the hand itself is small
[13:43] <nik90> imagine trying to grab the seconds hand
[13:43] <nik90> :)
[13:43] <popey> hah
[13:43] <popey> i want a timer to measure picoseconds!
[13:43] <popey> make an appropriately sized hand please! :D
[13:44] <nik90> I have already informed the designers about this. Let see what solution we can come up with this thursday meeting
[13:44] <awe> morphis, hey... can we chat a little later?  I have ~1hr  or so before our stand-up and I need to get some stuff done.  Can I ping you when I'm done?
[13:45] <cdesai> thanks ogra_
[13:45] <ogra_> np
[13:45] <morphis> awe: yes, but have a meeting around one hour from now myself so lets say in 2-3 hours?
[13:45] <popey> ok nik90
[13:45] <awe> morphis, sure
[13:46] <nik90> popey: something is wrong with the nexus 7 video
[13:46] <nik90> cannot play it ... video length is 0 seconds
[13:47] <popey> hmm
[13:47] <popey> still processing nik90
[13:47] <nik90> ah
[13:48] <popey> nik90: works now
[13:49] <dobey> is there a way to change the area of a Page in QML to having a text entry box or such?
[13:59] <dholbach> sergiusens: what do I do in this case? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798586/ :)
[13:59] <dholbach> unfortunately it now tells me "error: device not found" - but I didn't change anything
[14:03] <sergiusens> dholbach: what's currectly installed?
[14:06] <davidcalle> ogra_, just managed to work things out, I had other issues on top of the android initramfs, thanks for the pointer :)
[14:08] <dholbach> sergiusens: saucy-23
[14:09] <sergiusens> dholbach: do an adb kill-server
[14:10] <sergiusens> I thought I was catching that exception though... I'll double check later
[14:10] <dholbach> aha! trying that
[14:10] <dholbach> thanks
[14:10] <dholbach> sergiusens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798620/
[14:11] <FunkyPenguin> popey: two things, apt-get upgrade results in no new packages; and i called ricardo out as he said it would be fixed in the new image ;)
[14:11] <popey> FunkyPenguin: worked for me ☻
[14:12] <FunkyPenguin> popey: well whoopdeedoo for you :)
[14:13] <sergiusens> dholbach: dumb question, but did your device get unplugegd? :-P
[14:13] <dholbach> sergiusens: no, it also has enough battery, it just blanked screen in the meantime
[14:14] <popey> FunkyPenguin: ☻
[14:16] <sergiusens> dholbach: what if you adb kill-server; sudo adb start-server ?
[14:17] <dholbach> sergiusens: same
[14:17] <sergiusens> dholbach: reboot the device?
[14:19] <dholbach> sergiusens: same :-/
[14:19] <ogra_> jdstrand, so i finally got around to do a fresh install on my maguro ... /etc/apparmor.d/cache is still empty after a few reboots
[14:20] <jdstrand> weird
[14:20] <jdstrand> mako was fine. let me try grouper
[14:20] <sergiusens> dholbach: is your cable working at all?
[14:21] <dholbach> sergiusens: it worked fine when I flashed the device this morning - it's maybe 2-3 weeks old :)
[14:21] <ogra_> syslog show the partser running for NM when it brings up an interface and i see some relepathy related lines too
[14:21] <ogra_> *parser
[14:21] <ogra_> *telepathy
[14:21] <ogra_> (god, my typing ...)
[14:22] <jdstrand> ogra_: yeah, that sounds right if the cache files don't exist
[14:22] <jdstrand> ogra_: is this supposed to work: phablet-flash -d grouper --flipped
[14:22] <jdstrand> I'm getting a 404
[14:22] <ogra_> yes
[14:22] <jdstrand> ok, tried again, and it is working (weird)
[14:23] <ogra_> well, it should try to pull from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[14:23] <jdstrand> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com//ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip was what failed, but tried again and it worked
[14:24] <ogra_> might just have been replaced that moment
[14:24] <ogra_> the build just finished
[14:25] <jdstrand> ogra_: I don't have a maguro. on the device, can you do: /etc/init.d/apparmor reload and then see if cache files exist in /etc/apparmor.d/cache?
[14:26] <ogra_> jdstrand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5798667/
[14:26] <ogra_> there we go
[14:27]  * ogra_ kind of knew it was a kernel issue :)
[14:27] <jdstrand> ogra_: ok, pull requests went out earlier today which once applied will fix that
[14:28] <ogra_> k
[14:28] <jdstrand> ogra_: I guess the mako kernel sans compat patches had just enough for caching to work, but the 3.0 kernel didn't
[14:29] <ogra_> yeah
[14:29] <ogra_> that should make booting a lot more pleasant :)
[14:29] <ogra_> i.e. you wont have to burn your hand anymore :)
[14:30] <jdstrand> ok, good, mystery solved then. if this is slowing down your work-- you can just remove the apparmor package
[14:30] <jdstrand> hehe, yes! :)
[14:30] <ogra_> nah, my work is to stabilize that crack :)
[14:30] <jdstrand> (please only remove apparmor in your local system, not the image :)
[14:30] <ogra_> i want to see it start working :)
[14:30] <jdstrand> hehe
[14:38] <AskUbuntu> how to transfer files from galaxy nexus running ubuntu? | http://askubuntu.com/q/312566
[14:49] <heythere> hey folks
[14:49] <heythere> wehere ca i get a virtual machine with ubuntu mobile?
[14:50] <heythere> somehow lost
[14:50] <ogra_> you cant yet
[14:50] <heythere> so how to develop apps?
[14:51] <heythere> a bit weird since theyre site ist cluttered with the phone os
[14:52] <pmcgowan> heythere, you can develop apps on the desktop to some good extent using the sdk
[14:52] <heythere> hm, ok
[15:05] <nik90> popey: I have increased the grab area for the clock hand. So they remain the same size (for now) but have increased their grab area. So it should be much better now.
[15:05] <nik90> popey: http://ubuntuone.com/3oZj9gkYOi99yJSyVPHtjz
[15:06] <nik90> popey: I havent pushed it yet. I will think about it more. In the screenshot, the lightgreen spots represents the area you can grab on for each clock hand
[15:06] <popey> nik90: nice one
[15:06] <popey> nik90: let me know what you want me to test ☻
[15:07] <nik90> popey: definitely :)
[15:25] <ogra_> rtg_, did the latest maguro upload have a fix for ureadahead ?
[15:25] <rtg_> ogra_, nope, forgot. I just started looking at it a few minutes ago.
[15:26] <ogra_> ok
[15:26] <rtg_> ogra_, which one is maguro? Samsung or LG ?
[15:26] <ogra_> samsun omap :)
[15:26] <ogra_> +g
[15:27] <ogra_> the frankenphone :)
[15:28] <rtg_> ogra_, I got this phone from Ivanka, so it is likely the 3G image from Android ?
[15:28] <rtg_> its toast right now.
[15:28] <ogra_> toast ? how ?
[15:29] <rtg_> tried flashing, but wouldn't boot the touch image. I'm back to fastboot
[15:29] <rtg_> that was a few weeks ago and I never got back to it
[15:57] <sil2100> didrocks: on apps stack the check job failed with one failure on one machine, looks like a flacky test - I would opt for a publish anyway if you don't mind, the usual thing
[15:57] <sil2100> didrocks: since oSoMoN is not around today it seems
[15:57] <didrocks> sil2100: fine with me, please note it down so that we can poke him :)
[16:01] <jdstrand> mhall119: hi! so I have a work item: ubuntu-calculator-app runs under application isolation using aa-exec in the .desktop file via Debian packaging
[16:02] <jdstrand> mhall119: I have a modest change to its packaging to achieve that, but wasn't sure how to go about it
[16:02] <jdstrand> mhall119: like, how to get it into right ppa, etc
[16:02] <mhall119> jdstrand: not sure how to change it, or how to submit the change?
[16:03] <jdstrand> mhall119: I can produce a debdiff/merge fine, but not sure to where and then how to get it into the necessary ppa to have it show up on the image
[16:03] <mhall119> jdstrand: if you can submit an MP to the bzr branch that would be better: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app
[16:03] <mhall119> it has inline packaging
[16:04] <jdstrand> mhall119: assuming the MP is accepted, what is the next step to get it onto an image?
[16:05] <jdstrand> mhall119: well, all the images :)
[16:05] <mhall119> jdstrand: once the MP is approved, everything else is automatic
[16:05] <jdstrand> mhall119: awesome. was I right in coming to you?
[16:06] <mhall119> jenkins will land it in trunk and build it in the PPA, and the daily device image script will pull the latest package on the next run
[16:06] <mhall119> jdstrand: yup, me or popey for the core apps
[16:06] <jdstrand> mhall119: great, thanks!
[16:06] <mhall119> np
[16:09] <popey> \o/
[16:11] <jdstrand> mhall119: my MP is saucy specific, is that a problem?
[16:12] <jdstrand> (currently using a versioned Build-Depends-- I could relax that and just wait for the right version to end up in saucy if that makes things easier)
[16:20] <popey> nik90: do you have a branch in progress for bug 1188800 ?
[16:28] <morphis> awe: I have time now
[16:29] <awe> morphis, I'll ping you in a few...  I just started another IRC conv with someone.  ;)-
[16:30] <morphis> :)
[16:38] <glukosio> hello, what's the password of root in terminal?
[16:42] <nik90> popey: I had a local branch for that bug, however due to the new visual design changes made, I did not plan on pushing my local branch for review.
[16:43] <nik90> popey: I guess I need to mark it Triaged until I get my other branches reviewed and merged in
[16:43] <marianne> anyone have ubuntu running on a Galaxy tab?
[16:44] <popey> nik90: i was oing to take a look at it
[16:44] <popey> *going
[16:45] <nik90> popey: its not going be easy since the toolbar API has also changed. So any autopilot test you write which uses them will become invalid very soon.
[16:45] <nik90> popey: That's why I have been postponing that particular bug for almost 2 weeks now.
[16:45] <popey> yeah. will look at another app.. ☻
[16:45] <nik90> popey: :-)
[16:47] <awe> ogra_, ping
[16:48] <ogra_> yo
[16:48] <awe> hey.. I pushed my socket MR, however I'm seeing odd behavior
[16:48] <awe> was just discussing with jodh
[16:48] <awe> ofono starts, gets a socket failure, and exits
[16:49] <awe> is respawned once... gets a socket failure and exits again
[16:49] <awe> and then is never respawned a third time
[16:49] <ogra_> and on and on ?
[16:49] <awe> however upstart thinks it's running
[16:49] <ogra_> oh
[16:50] <ogra_> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#expect probably
[16:50] <awe> ogra_, in theory, on and on, and on... although we could craft a respawn limit which terminates after some point
[16:50] <awe> ogra_, don't think so
[16:50] <awe> in the good case, upstart has the correct PID for ofono
[16:50] <awe> which means expect is correct
[16:50] <ogra_> no forsk or anything ?
[16:51] <awe> ofono just calls daemon(), which AFAIK, does a single fork on Linux
[16:51] <ogra_> *forks
[16:51] <awe> and the job has "expect fork" not "expect daemon"
[16:51] <ogra_> yeah, sounds okayish
[16:52] <awe> so was wondering how I go about starting upstart with --debug so that we can track this down?
[16:53] <ogra_> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
[16:53] <ogra_> like that ?
[16:56] <awe> ogra_, according to jodh --debug and --verbose both work, but you get more output with --debug
[16:56] <ogra_> abootimg -u /part/to/boot/partition -c "cmdline=--verbose"
[16:56] <ogra_> (or --debug)
[16:57] <ogra_> that sets the option on kernel cmdline
[16:57] <ogra_> note that on grouper the boot partition is called LNX
[16:57] <jodh> ogra_: does that blank the rest of the options or just add --verbose to the existing options?
[16:57] <ogra_> (in case you test on one)
[16:57] <awe> ogra_, just testing on maguro
[16:57] <awe> so i run that command, then reboot?
[16:57] <ogra_> jodh, it gets sled in between the hardcoded bootloader and kernel default options
[16:58] <awe> what's the boot partition on maguro
[16:58] <ogra_> jodh, by default our boot.img cmdline is empty
[16:58] <ogra_> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# find /dev -name *boot*
[16:58] <ogra_> /dev/disk/by-name/boot
[16:58] <ogra_> /dev/disk/by-partlabel/boot
[16:58] <ogra_> awe, ^^ pick one :)
[17:00] <awe> so 'abootimg -u /dev/disk/by-name/boot -c "cmdline=--debug"
[17:00] <ogra_> right
[17:01] <xnox> ogra_: I shake fist at http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57221
[17:01] <ogra_> lovely
[17:02] <awe> ogra_, works!  And to clear, I just re-run the command with -c ""?
[17:02] <ogra_> with -c "cmdline="
[17:02] <awe> ogra_, ack
[17:04] <ogra_> xnox, so we need that backported i guess
[17:04] <xnox> ogra_: i started to eliminate libraries which work/don't work when replaced from linaro-4.8 build. and hit up libc and then quickly found that.
[17:05] <rtg_> ogra_, think I figured out maguro ureadahead problem, what are the magic runes for flashing a maguro kernel ?
[17:05] <xnox> ogra_: i'll try rebuilding linaro toolchain with that patch included, and hopefully get to fully booting gcc-4.8 based build.
[17:05] <xnox> ogra_: then it should be ready to be packaged....
[17:06] <ogra_> rtg_, abootimg -u /dev/disk/by-name/boot -k /path/to/zImage
[17:06] <rtg_> ogra_, thanks
[17:06] <ogra_> xnox, yay
[17:07] <iBelieve> I've been working on an updated UI using a page stack for the File Manager, and am about to submit it to be reviewed. Is there anyone I should I request it to be reviewed by in the Reviewer field?
[17:08] <awe> morphis, ping
[17:08] <morphis> awe: pong
[17:08] <awe> thanks for adding the analysis to the SMS bug.
[17:08] <morphis> no problem
[17:08] <awe> any ideas on the double-free?
[17:09] <awe> it works fine for me, and the existing code works as well
[17:09] <awe> I'd rather understand the crash first before trying to work around it
[17:10] <morphis> awe: still hadn't time to reproduce it after we talked last time
[17:10] <awe> ok
[17:10] <rtg_> ogra_, are you sure ? there is no /dev/disk in my image (in either android or ubuntu)
[17:10] <morphis> but I would say I should do that and try to play with the contraints
[17:11] <morphis> like --enable-optimizations/disable-optimizations configure switch
[17:11] <ogra_> rtg_, oh, are you still on unflipped ?
[17:11] <morphis> awe: which image are you using?
[17:11] <morphis> saucy based?
[17:11] <rtg_> likely. should I reflash ?
[17:11] <awe> yes
[17:11] <morphis> flipped/unflipped?
[17:11] <ogra_> rtg_, find /dev -name *boot*
[17:11] <awe> mostly flipped
[17:11] <awe> as we're trying to switch this week
[17:11] <ogra_> rtg_, its puried deeper in android
[17:12] <ogra_> *buried
[17:12] <morphis> awe: ok, I am here on unflipped
[17:12] <awe> saucy?
[17:12] <rtg_> ogra_, block/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/by-name/boot ?
[17:12] <ogra_> yeah
[17:12] <awe> morphis, I'm also building in a pbuilder chroot as well...
[17:12] <morphis> hm
[17:13] <morphis> so you're doing package builds?
[17:13] <morphis> I am currently compiling on the device
[17:14] <morphis> awe: btw. you saw the Mer people already have SIM PIN/PUK functionality?
[17:14] <ogra_> rtg_, i would recommend to go to flipped soon though, its a lot more convenient to have a plainn ubuntu to work with
[17:15] <awe> morphis, no I didn't
[17:15] <awe> that said, it's next on my plate
[17:16] <awe> just to get done via command-line
[17:16] <awe> for now
[17:16] <awe> the UI won't land till mid-to-late July
[17:16] <morphis> should be enough to either implement it or take the work from the Mer people
[17:20] <awe> morphis, are the Mer people using RILD?
[17:20] <morphis> awe: yes
[17:21] <awe> from us, or separately developed?
[17:21] <Stskeeps> we rebase on your branch once in a while, though we're in git instead, you're free to cherry-pick - all legal/open source
[17:22] <morphis> awe: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/tree/master/ofono
[17:22] <mhall119> jdstrand: jenkins will build for quantal, raring and saucy
[17:22] <mhall119> jdstrand: is your change only applicable to saucy?
[17:23] <jdstrand> mhall119: yes, it is
[17:23] <jdstrand> I forgot there is one other bit that needs to be done that I can't relax the deps on
[17:23] <jdstrand> meh
[17:23] <jdstrand> where relaxing the deps doesn't help
[17:24]  * jdstrand has to adjust the desktop file
[17:26] <jdstrand> mhall119: I guess I could do a conditional adjustment of the desktop file
[17:26] <jdstrand> this will go away once we have application lifecycle all together (ie, upstart jobs to launch apps)
[18:25] <awe> rsalveti, minor comments on your IMEI MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~rsalveti/phablet-extras/ofono-imei-revision/+merge/171221
[18:26] <rsalveti> awe: awesome, thanks
[18:26] <awe> np
[18:27] <jdstrand> mhall119: ok, I figured out what to do
[18:30] <mhall119> jdstrand: cool, will this be something we can start applying to other core apps and collection apps too?
[18:31] <rsalveti> awe: just pushed the update
[18:31] <jdstrand> mhall119: yes. I am going to blog about it once it is merged. I'll give the 'normal' way for uploads to the archive and then how to do it for daily builds with earlier Ubuntu releases
[18:32] <jdstrand> mhall119: the more we get profiled, the more we can fine-tune
[18:33] <awe> rsalveti, k
[18:46] <mhall119> jdstrand: we'll probably need extra help and guidance with things like the terminal and file manager apps
[18:46] <mhall119> s/probably/definitely/
[18:47] <jdstrand> mhall119: if we choose to confine those at all, they will likely need to be hand-confined for the forseeable future
[18:55] <mhall119> hmmm, I guess if we leave them as "developer mode" installs, confinement isn't necessary
[18:57] <popey> good learning exercise for everyone if they are
[18:57] <ryanlee> Hello, got a Nexus 7 that I can't get to boot past bootloader, this following an attempted install of Ubuntu Touch.  Any ideas on what I can do?  Tried booting to recovery mode and that didn't help either.
[18:57] <popey> we tend to find holes in the SDK / foundations when we try things like this which are outside the box
[19:00] <nfgfg> hello. im trying the manual install for nexus 7. i followed all of the steps and i did a final reboot....so im still on the google logo...how long does it normally take?
[19:01] <awe> rsalveti, happroved
[19:03] <rsalveti> awe: thanks
[19:03] <awe> np
[19:14] <nfgfg> herro?
[19:16] <AskUbuntu> importing C++/Qt module in QML | http://askubuntu.com/q/312672
[19:20] <baebbe> hello! Can anyone tell me, with which samsung galaxy ubuntu phone will work? I am not very familiar with hardware, just read that ubuntu phone was presented on a samsung galaxy cellphone.
[19:21] <iBelieve> I'm new to autopilot and am trying to run it for the File Manager app. After about 12 seconds, I get RuntimeError: Unable to find Autopilot interface. What am I doing wrong? Am I missing any packages?
[19:21] <popey> iBelieve: do you have autopilot from ppa:autopilot/ppa installed?
[19:21] <popey> (if not that's probably it, right balloons ? )
[19:21] <popey> baebbe: see the devices link at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[19:22] <popey> nfgfg: doesn't normally take that long
[19:22] <eexer> upsetting :/ its fully unlocked.......ideas?
[19:23] <iBelieve> popey, I originally installed it without the PPA, then I added the PPA, and ran apt-get update && dist-upgrade.
[19:23] <popey> iBelieve: apt-cache policy python-autopilot, does it show 1.3 or so?
[19:23] <popey>   Installed: 1.3.1daily13.06.25bzr249raring0
[19:24] <balloons> iBelieve, yes you need the ppa
[19:24] <balloons> iBelieve, are you on raring?
[19:24] <iBelieve> popey, Shows exact same thing
[19:24] <iBelieve> balloons, Yep, I'm using raring
[19:24] <balloons> iBelieve, ok hmm.. one sec
[19:25] <balloons> popey, does it still work for you on raring?
[19:25] <balloons> lol
[19:25] <popey> well done, you have exhausted my knowledge on the subject:)
[19:25] <popey> hah
[19:25] <balloons> I think there might be an issue..
[19:25]  * popey looks
[19:25] <popey> list shows one test for filemanager
[19:26] <balloons> right.. try runing int
[19:26] <balloons> *running it
[19:26] <popey> Tests running...
[19:26] <balloons> and working fine? no autopilot error?
[19:26] <popey> balloons: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799479/
[19:26] <balloons> hah!
[19:26] <balloons> success
[19:27] <popey> you have a strange defintion of success
[19:27] <iBelieve> That's the error I'm getting.
[19:27] <balloons> sorry... you've confirmed it as an issue
[19:28] <balloons> let me grab you an older version to install and work around it
[19:28] <balloons> I'll get bugs filed and figure out why they pushed a broken build
[19:28] <balloons> for QA that's success, lol.. confirming it's broken!
[19:29] <popey> \o/
[19:32] <nfgfg> so android is gone and im stuck with only recovery.....could i install ubuntu like this? im using clockwork recovery btw
[19:32] <popey> nfgfg: does the manual adb push not work?
[19:32] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Installation like that?
[19:33] <nfgfg> popey: i did all the steps but i got nothing.............
[19:33] <nfgfg> i did this as root btw
[19:33] <popey> and the file is /sdcard/autodeploy.zip ?
[19:33] <nfgfg> yeah
[19:34] <nfgfg> for me it was adb push /home/user1/Downloads/saucy-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip /sdcard/autodeplu.zip
[19:35] <popey> Hmm, never seen that, sorry
[19:35] <nfgfg> upsetting :/
[19:36] <pmcgowan> deplu or deploy?
[19:36] <nfgfg> could it be because im running 13.04 on the desktop?
[19:36] <nfgfg> deploy*
[19:36] <pmcgowan> ok
[19:37] <pmcgowan> 13.04 is fine
[19:37] <nfgfg> i mean it says it has been written to the device
[19:38] <nfgfg> saucy-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip  and saucy-presinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip right?
[19:38] <balloons> popey, iBelieve try this: https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa/+files/python-autopilot_1.3.1daily13.06.15bzr248raring0_all.deb
[19:38] <pmcgowan> nfgfg, and you went back into recovery and did the second step?
[19:38] <nfgfg> nexus 7 32 gig wifi
[19:38] <nfgfg> yeah
[19:38] <iBelieve>  balloons, will try it.
[19:38] <balloons> tks
[19:38] <nfgfg> im redoing it as we speak
[19:39] <ryanlee> nfgfg, I'm having similar issues.
[19:39] <nfgfg> similar how?
[19:40] <ryanlee> With the the same model of Nexus 7.
[19:40] <nfgfg> well damn. that is depressing. i was hoping it was my failing....
[19:41] <ryanlee> For me it says install was complete and successful.  But upon actually trying to boot the Nexus it either (1) Acts as though there is no OS installed (after which I reflash Android) or (2) It just reboots to Android.
[19:41] <nfgfg> it just boots like it has no OS for me....
[19:41] <iBelieve> balloons, doesn't work, same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799522/
[19:42] <balloons> iBelieve, ok, can you try the next one :-)
[19:42] <ryanlee> nfgfg, Yeah, this is my third go around with it.  I've successfully flashed Ubuntu Touch to other devices.
[19:42] <balloons> we'll see when it broke
[19:42] <nfgfg> is this a bug that is well known? i mean im sure people have been putting ubntu touch on this model before
[19:42] <ryanlee> I'm going to try it again and see what happens.
[19:42] <nfgfg> this is my second time trying it as well
[19:42] <balloons> iBelieve, https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa/+files/python-autopilot_1.3.1daily13.06.15bzr247raring0_all.deb
[19:43] <balloons> It that's broke I'm going to assume the 6/14 build was the last good one
[19:44] <popey> same balloons
[19:44] <iBelieve> balloons, yeah, it works!
[19:44] <balloons> iBelieve, ok great.. So we know when the error was introduced :-)
[19:44] <pmcgowan> nfgfg, had you tried using the flash tool before, is that why you used the manual method?
[19:44] <balloons> so don't upgrade for a bit.. I'll file the bug
[19:45] <nfgfg> yeah i did but adb always has been bitchy to me
[19:45] <popey> still fails for me balloons
[19:45] <balloons> really?
[19:45] <ryanlee> pmcgowan, For me the flash tool is what kills the OS guaranteed so far.
[19:45] <rsalveti> popey: can you check if latest is working for nexus 7?
[19:45] <nfgfg> the tablet wouldnt ask for the rsa key to be accepted
[19:45] <popey>   Installed: 1.3.1daily13.06.15bzr247raring0
[19:45] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/~autopilot/+archive/ppa/+files/python-autopilot_1.3.1daily13.06.15bzr246raring0_all.deb is the 6/14 build.. I can't imagine it's the last good one
[19:45] <popey> rsalveti: sure, running now
[19:45] <balloons> but you can try that one
[19:45] <rsalveti> ryanlee: also, which image are you using, normal or flipped?
[19:46] <iBelieve> now time to fix the errors caused by my local changes to the file manager :)
[19:46] <ryanlee> rsalveti, I believe I'm using the normal.  Following guide found here for both manual and flash install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[19:47] <balloons> popey, potentially the issue is in a library, but I didn't think that was the case given the infro you presented
[19:47] <rsalveti> ryanlee: right, and trying to manually install both zips?
[19:47]  * jppiiroinen has nexus 7 (grouper) and has flashed flipped and non-flipped images to it today several times
[19:47] <nfgfg> jppiiroinen: any special steps you needed to take?
[19:47] <jppiiroinen> nope
[19:48] <popey> balloons: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799549/
[19:48] <ryanlee> rsalveti, One issue I've run into when trying the manual install is it won't boot into the recovery mode.  I'm actually reflashing Android now to try manual install again.
[19:48] <nfgfg> ryanlee: for me i at least still have recovery
[19:48] <jppiiroinen> just with phablet-flash
[19:48] <balloons> popey, so bzr246 didn't work for you either?
[19:49] <rsalveti> nfgfg: which recovery are you using?
[19:49] <rsalveti> you could try flashing our recovery as well
[19:49] <rsalveti> and then manually installing the zip files
[19:49] <popey> balloons: correct, just installed the one you told me to
[19:49] <nfgfg> clockwork mod v <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:49]  * jppiiroinen have experienced weird issues with bad usb-cables too when flashing
[19:49] <balloons> popey, so I wonder if it's a library issue for you then.. so bizarre
[19:49] <rsalveti> yeah, clockworkmod should in theory work fine as well
[19:50] <nfgfg> ubuntu touch has its own recovery?
[19:50] <nfgfg> jppiiroinen: well that is a pain because if so i have no other cable that work
[19:51] <popey> clockwork mod <IP_ADDRESS> here
[19:51] <rsalveti> nfgfg: a custom version based on the original clockwork mod
[19:51] <jppiiroinen> nfgfg: i have flashed today my n7 about 4 times and the images works with qtc
[19:51] <rsalveti> also available in the same download path where you got the image
[19:52] <jppiiroinen> nfgfg: so the images should boot, the qtc does not (yet) have the flipped image support in the ppa, as i was working on that one
[19:52] <nfgfg> qtc?
[19:53] <jppiiroinen> nfgfg: qt creator
[19:53] <nfgfg> ah
[19:55] <netcurli> popey: did you get the 0.3 version of my akari puzzle game into the collection ppa yet?
[19:55] <popey> netcurli: nope, it's on my to-do list though
[19:55] <netcurli> ok
[19:59] <popey> nfgfg: rsalveti my n7 just finished flashing, booted up and I am getting tweets and stuff
[19:59] <rsalveti> awesome
[20:01] <iBelieve> I don't understand why an autopilot test for File Manager (with my changes) is failing, where is the best place to ask for help?
[20:01] <nik90> popey: if you are free, you can test the new timer again. I have fixed the upward animation issue, small grab area and also 60 second value bug.
[20:01] <popey> sure thing nik90
[20:01] <popey> got a branch?
[20:01] <nik90> popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/new-timer-design
[20:02] <popey> k
[20:02]  * popey hugs debuild -uc -us
[20:04] <popey> nik90: 1000% better!
[20:04] <popey> much easier to grab and it didn't flip the screen up at all
[20:05] <nik90> popey: awesome :)
[20:05] <popey> nice work nik90 !
[20:05] <nik90> popey: it was important to get this right since it will also be used for the alarm implementation
[20:05] <nik90> popey: thanks for the feedback. I will look to clean and then merge this when it is ready
[20:08] <popey> nik90: great, still concerned that the time shows 00:00 before I set the timer, and as I spin it, it goes from that to 01:00:00 to 59:00:00...
[20:09] <nik90> popey: will try to reproduce and fix
[20:11] <nfgfg> it worked with the touch recovery!
[20:11] <nfgfg> woot!
[20:11] <popey> huzzah
[20:11] <nfgfg> thanks guys :) appreciate the help greatly
[20:11] <nik90> popey: going from 00:00 to 01:00:00 is fine as long as you spin the hour hand. Does it go from 01:00:00 to 59:00:00 when you go backwards?
[20:12] <pmcgowan> nfgfg, nice
[20:12] <nik90> popey: the hour is shown only when hours > 0. It was a design decision
[20:12] <popey> oh hah!
[20:12] <popey> didnt realise I could spin the other hand ☻
[20:12] <sergiusens> nfgfg: not sure people mentioned this, but check the md5sums when copying
[20:12] <popey> ignore me ☻
[20:12] <nik90> popey: :D
[20:12] <sergiusens> nfgfg: it _should_ work with a standard recovery though
[20:13] <nfgfg> ok
[20:13] <nfgfg> interesting
[20:13] <mterry> racarr, the instructions for Mir on devices says not to use the mesa in the PPA.  Is there a reason we don't just delete the packages from the PPA?
[20:15] <racarr> mterry: I'm not sure ;) I dont know why we would need the arm packages, no...
[20:16] <ryanlee> Just started over and everything worked upon flashing it this time.
[20:16] <mterry> racarr, but they are useful on other arches?
[20:17] <racarr> mterry: Required on desktop yes
[20:17] <racarr> contains the mir EGL platform
[20:17] <mterry> racarr, hmm, do you know why they are broken on arm?  Seems like a bug that would be nice to fix
[20:18] <racarr> Well I don't know they aren't
[20:18] <racarr> useful on arm
[20:18] <racarr> because we get the EGL from the
[20:18] <racarr> uh
[20:18] <racarr> well the android drivers
[20:18] <racarr> so it's just the headers
[20:18] <racarr> are used to build things
[20:19] <racarr> I don't know why the mesa from the ppa doesnt work to build packages on the phone right now (or apparently does not)
[20:21] <ChickenCutlass> racarr, mterry the package libhybris provides the EGL and GL drivers for touch
[20:23] <mterry> ChickenCutlass, OK.  I'm just troubled that the PPA mesa breaks the phone.  It's a pain to keep the mesa packages at saucy versions
[20:25] <thomi> iBelieve: either in #ubuntu-quality, or in #ubuntu-autopilot probably
[20:27] <racarr> ChickenCutlass: It seems like a bunch of things depend on mesa for the headers?
[20:27] <racarr> i.e. qtubuntu builds against the mesa EGL headers and defines MESA_EGL_NO_X11 or whatever
[20:27] <racarr> I have never quite understood why but assumed it was something annoying about hybris
[20:30] <iBelieve> thomi, Even though the problem is in a Ubuntu Touch app?
[20:31] <thomi> iBelieve: I guess it depends if it's a problem in the app, or a problem in autopilot or the test. If it's the app, I guess this is the correct place to ask
[20:31] <rafaelement> hi people.
[20:31] <popey> hello
[20:32] <popey> iBelieve: also, thomi and balloons lurk here anyway, so .. ㋛
[20:32] <ChickenCutlass> racarr, right, we use the headers from MESA but link against the libGL and libEGL provided by libhybris
[20:32] <rafaelement> i m new to qml, and i want to stack 3 sliders, value selectors and text areas in some kind of list, so when the valueselector is expanded, no elements will overlap
[20:32] <nfgfg> hey i though wifi worked for ubuntu touch
[20:32] <popey> nfgfg: works here
[20:33] <popey> nfgfg: although i did have to reboot my nexus 4 earlier to make it work
[20:33] <nfgfg> hell cant even get the soft keyboard  to work. does it support wpa2?
[20:33] <nfgfg> ill use a usbotg cable and type in the pass
[20:33] <nfgfg> always says its empty though
[20:33] <pmcgowan> nfgfg, use the phablet-network-setup tool
[20:34] <pmcgowan> not sure about wpa2
[20:34] <nfgfg> pmcgowan: in the tablet's terminal app or desktop?
[20:34] <pmcgowan> desktop
[20:34] <nfgfg> ok
[20:34] <pmcgowan> it will copy the config over
[20:35] <iBelieve> I've been working on converting File Manager to use a page stack (https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/page-stack/+merge/171368), but autopilot is giving errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5799683/. I'm not sure what is wrong, since I don't think I've changed anything related the ActionSelectionPopover. Could someone take a look at it and explain what I'm doing wrong?
[20:37] <thomi> iBelieve: from the error, it looks like there used to be a single  ActionSelectionPopover in the introspection tree, but now there are several
[20:37] <thomi> iBelieve: if you use select_single("ActionSelectionPopover"), and you get multiple returns, that's an error
[20:38] <thomi> iBelieve: so, either specify a more restrictive filter ( like: select_single("ActionSelectionPopover", objectName="foobar") ) or use select_many (like: select_many("ActionSelectionPopover"))
[20:38] <balloons> ^^ what thomi said :-)
[20:38] <iBelieve> thomi, printing the results from select_single show 3 objects all with the same objectName.
[20:38] <balloons> yikes
[20:38] <iBelieve> thomi, ^^ select_many
[20:39] <nfgfg_> do i need to be in recovery to write this file?
[20:39] <thomi> iBelieve: so there's two possible reasons for that - either they're all the same object (which is possible, thanks Qt), or the developers (i.e.: you) used the same object name in several places
[20:40] <nfgfg_> do i need to be in recovery to write this file?
[20:40] <nfgfg_> for wifi
[20:40] <balloons> iBelieve, do you have a branch on lp? I can have a closer look
[20:41] <pmcgowan> nfgfg_, no it goes over adb
[20:41] <balloons> my guess is the duplicate objectname.. we can fix the qml file
[20:41] <iBelieve> thomi, there is only one object - print when it becomes visible and invisible only show one.
[20:41] <nfgfg_> pmcgowan: Network connection file "uuid=d8191f7d-12e0-4498-ae7c-716db0fe36bc" cannot be read gives me this error
[20:42] <iBelieve> balloons, nope, first the three returned objects show empty names, because I didn't have an objectName, then I set it, and all three showed the new name.
[20:42] <iBelieve> balloons, here is the branch: lp:~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/page-stack
[20:42] <balloons> perfect, let me grab and i'll help more directy ;-)
[20:43] <iBelieve> balloons, and here is the merge request showing the diff from the main version (which passes all tests): https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/page-stack/+merge/171368
[20:47] <mhall119> hmm, I seem to have lost rotation support in the latest n7 image
[20:48] <pmcgowan> mhall119, it broke a while ago
[20:48] <nfgfg_> wont work :/ anyway i  could manually put it in?
[20:49] <popey> nfgfg_: all it does is copy a file from your own network manager config, you can read /usr/bin/phablet-network-setup and see what it does, and manually do that?
[20:55] <balloons> iBelieve, ok so your still doing a select single on ActionSelectionPopover
[20:57] <iBelieve> balloons, yes, though I had some local changes to print what select_many return after getting that error. I don't really understand how autopilot works - shouldn't I be using a select single there? I haven't changed anything related the the ActionSelectionPopover at all.
[20:58] <fgfgw> still not working. im using a desktop....i tried putting in a wifi usb adapter
[20:58] <thomi> iBelieve: unfortnately, something is exporting that object several times in the introspection tree, so autopilot sees it several times
[20:58] <balloons> iBelieve, it's fine. You don't have objectName's set however
[20:58] <balloons> so inside the qml you can add the objectName property
[20:59] <balloons> this allows you to get a specific object at runtime
[20:59] <balloons> so I'm looking in FolderListView.qml
[20:59] <balloons> is that the proper ActionSelectionPopover you want?
[20:59] <iBelieve> balloons, sorry, I had it set in a local version but scrapped that change along with printing the select_many results.
[21:00] <balloons>     ActionSelectionPopover {
[21:00] <balloons>         id: actionSelectionPopover
[21:00] <balloons> objectName: folderViewPopver
[21:00] <iBelieve> balloons, yes, it's returning the right object, but I think it is returning it three times
[21:01] <iBelieve> thomi, so it isn't a problem in my code? Will just using the 1st result from select_many work?
[21:01] <thomi> iBelieve: if they really are all the same object - check their ids
[21:02] <thomi> that is: print [obj.id for obj in foo.selectmany("ObjectName") ]
[21:02] <thomi> or simlar :)
[21:04] <UnderSampled> anyone here built cm for an unofficially supported device?
[21:05] <UnderSampled> I'm trying to get build one before I try learning how ubuntu-touch works and how to port it
[21:05] <UnderSampled> but both #android-root and #cyanogenmod-dev are super quite
[21:05] <UnderSampled> *quiet
[21:05] <iBelieve> thomi, same objectName but three different ids. Weird.
[21:07] <UnderSampled> specifically, i'm having trouble getting the proprietary stuff. I thought device/samsung/infuse4g/extract-files.sh would have gotten me my vendor/samsung/infuse4g/proprietary/modem.bin, but it's not there
[21:08] <iBelieve> balloons, thomi, I just figured out that I think it is returning one instance for each page on the page stack, though why I don't know.
[21:08] <popey> UnderSampled: if you get no answer here, you can try on the mailing list?
[21:09] <UnderSampled> popey: I'll try on xda-developers next
[21:09] <UnderSampled> it's rather not related to ubuntu development
[21:09] <UnderSampled> but I need it before I can start, if you understand
[21:11] <rsalveti> stgraber: were you able to find out which kernel patches are needed to get lxc tty to work with touch?
[21:13] <balloons> iBelieve, sorry caught up here for a few mins, I'll look back at this in a min
[21:13] <stgraber> rsalveti: sorry, been busy with alpha1 stuff, it's on my todo for today/tomorrow (most likely tomorrow at this point)
[21:13] <rsalveti> stgraber: sure, np
[21:40] <nolinuxnoparty> I don't understand the guide you people have written on Porting
[21:40] <nolinuxnoparty> Its confusing :|
[21:45] <balloons> iBelieve, ok back mate :-) Where did you end up?
[21:47] <iBelieve> balloons, I figured out that select_many is returning one for every page, but the currently active one is first, so I'm using the first result from select_many.
[21:48] <iBelieve> balloons, that works and the test passes.
[21:48] <balloons> iBelieve, ok great. Have you seen the sdk emulator I started? I'd encourage you to adopt it for the testcases
[21:49] <balloons> it makes things easier and it helps standardize and do best practices for all the apps
[21:49] <iBelieve> balloons, no, what is it? All I've seen is a directory in the test dir for the filemanager app called emulator
[21:49] <iBelieve> and where can I find it?
[21:50] <balloons> at the moment, it's in my personal branch, but it's going to get a proper home :-)
[21:50] <balloons> lp:~nskaggs/+junk/ubuntusdk_autopilot_emulator
[21:51] <balloons> there's just ubuntusdk.py in that branch
[21:51] <balloons> add it to your emulators folder and feel free to use it
[21:51] <netcurli> balloons: did you get my email regarding an issue in the sdk emulator?
[21:51] <iBelieve> balloons, cool, I'll take a look at it.
[21:52] <balloons> netcurli, which issue? I've got to round up the changes I want to make and make them :-)
[21:52] <iBelieve> So about my merge request - now that I've fixed the autopilot test, is there anything I need to do to have it reviewed again?
[21:52] <balloons> I know some people suggested enhancements and I remember seeing a bug.. I'm guessing it was yours :-)
[21:53] <balloons> iBelieve, simply commit the changes to your branch and the merge request will update with them
[21:53] <netcurli> with stopY not being an integer in open_toolbar
[21:53] <balloons> a comment saying it's ready to be reviewed again is a good idea :-)
[21:53] <balloons> ohh right! the toolbar issue, I do remember
[21:53] <balloons> can we fix it?
[21:54] <iBelieve> balloons, okay, will add a comment, thanks for all the help!
[21:55] <balloons> your welcome.. thanks for writing the test!
[21:55] <balloons> netcurli, so hmm.. we could force return integers.. it's funny it got a no-integer value. I guess gu units can be non ints
[21:56] <netcurli> well it gets multiplied by 0.95
[21:56] <balloons> netcurli, indeed :-)
[21:57] <balloons> let's wrap those into ints to keep sanity
[22:00] <balloons> netcurli, which app had the issue?
[22:02] <netcurli> it was my own app https://launchpad.net/catchpodder, I have changed the height to a value where it works for the moment
[22:02] <iBelieve> Did I accidentally mark my merge request as approved? https://code.launchpad.net/~mdspencer/ubuntu-filemanager-app/page-stack/+merge/171368
[22:03] <balloons> netcurli, ok I just wrapped all the calls with int to return a non-floating number
[22:03] <iBelieve> If so, what do I do to undo it?
[22:04] <balloons> it's ok :-) Arto still has to review and approve
[22:04] <balloons> netcurli, would you like to try the new version and see if it fixes things?
[22:04] <netcurli> yes
[22:05] <iBelieve> balloons, oh thanks. Oops :)
[22:05] <balloons> netcurli, k let me push it up for you
[22:05] <balloons> one moment
[22:06] <balloons> k, lp:~nskaggs/+junk/ubuntusdk_autopilot_emulator
[22:10] <balloons> netcurli, ^^.. It worked for my tests (so did the old version, heh) See if that fixes things for you
[22:11] <netcurli> works now for me, even if my app has a height of units.gu(71)
[22:11] <balloons> hurray.. good catch, thanks for letting me know
[22:11] <balloons> shouldn't have been sending floating point numbers anyway
[22:14] <kgunn> its been a while for me, but i just tried "phablet-network-setup" and it's complaining "no wifi"...which is definitely working on my device
[22:14] <kgunn> n7
[22:14] <kgunn> any ideas ? or is that an "old thing" ?
[22:15] <netcurli> balloons: btw, the toolbar button should with the current sdk version be easier to select, shouldn't it?
[22:15] <kgunn> sergiusens: ricmm ^
[22:15] <sergiusens> kgunn: it doesn't work on flipped if that's what you are using
[22:16] <kgunn> sergiusens: supposing flipped is what you get if you do phablet-flash?
[22:16] <sergiusens> kgunn: I will fix it once me make the official move to flipped by default
[22:16] <sergiusens> kgunn: nah, phablet-flash --flipped is required
[22:16] <kgunn> sergiusens: thanks...hmmm, i didn't opt-in for flipped
[22:17] <balloons> netcurli, what is difficult about it now?
[22:17] <balloons> I'm not understanding the question :-)
[22:17] <sergiusens> kgunn: so the no wifi may be because you are not connected with the workstation you are using
[22:17] <sergiusens> connected over wifi
[22:17] <kgunn> sergiusens: oh, ok...yeah, i'm on cable
[22:18] <netcurli> the get_toolbar_button function seems complicated
[22:18] <kgunn> sergiusens: ta ...will unplug and try
[22:18] <sergiusens> easily workedaround by either connecting or using the -n option with the path to a network file
[22:19] <netcurli> balloons: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg02441.html
[22:19] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, we really need a sergiusens faq
[22:20] <sergiusens> pmcgowan: lol, I really did add a good deal of helpful --help -h messages :-)
[22:20] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, hah ok maybe its one q long then
[22:21] <balloons> netcurli, nice, I hadn't seen that yet!
[22:21] <balloons> I'll add that to the list of improvements to make ;-)
[22:21] <nik90> fginther: can you check if the daily build core apps bot is down? It seems to be not merging stuff.
[22:23] <nik90> balloons: is the jenkins bot only merging sutff if the autopilot tests pass?
[22:24] <nik90> balloons: not sure if jenkins bot is down or if it is only allowing stuff if the tests pass
[22:24] <fginther> nik90, I'll check
[22:24] <fginther> nik90, do you have a merge proposal?
[22:25] <nik90> fginther: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/new-stopwatch-design/+merge/170923
[22:26] <nik90> fginther: normally I get a message saying that the code is alrite without any conflicts from the jenkins bot, but I havent got that yet
[22:28] <fginther> nik90, I found the problem, should have results shortly
[22:31] <nik90> fginther: grt
[23:09] <bjv> is there a diagram of the Ubuntu Touch application technology stack?
[23:10] <bjv> I see it runs atop CM10 kernel, with a chroot, and supports qt5 and not x11
[23:10] <bjv> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/FAQ#How_is_Ubuntu_Touch_connected_to_Android.3F
[23:12] <bjv> but how is qmlscene rendered?
[23:13] <bjv> oh wait, there it is .. /system/bin/surfaceflinger
[23:13] <bjv> so mir is not being used on this 24June daily


[00:30] <lifeless> fg
[00:30] <lifeless> bah, typo ;P
[07:13] <lifeless> 5 fails.
[07:13] <lifeless> the countdown continues
[10:08] <lifeless> wgrant: what do you think of my storm/sqlobject suggestion ?
[10:08] <lifeless> wgrant: its taken considerable time tracking down essentially all cases of this, for *one* function that returned a SQLObject query becoming storm.
[10:09] <wgrant> lifeless: Storm.__nonzero__ should certainly fail.
[10:09] <wgrant> Not sure about the warning, though.
[10:10] <lifeless> well
[10:10] <lifeless> making it fail always would be a bit harsh
[10:10] <wgrant> True.
[10:10] <wgrant> s/Storm/ResultSet/ in my above, oops.
[10:10] <wgrant> But true.
[10:10] <lifeless> the warning is for catching problems early - I'm thinking one could do a run again ec2 and generate a list of callsites
[11:14] <lifeless> \o/
[11:14] <lifeless> fingers crossed, the damn branch is done
[11:15] <wgrant> Which?
[11:15] <wgrant> The search one?
[11:15] <wgrant> BugTaskSet.search?
[11:18] <lifeless> yeah
[11:18] <lifeless> the one that became
[11:18] <lifeless> 'convert a workhorse function to storm, somehow'
[11:19] <wgrant> Hah.
[11:20] <lifeless> buildQuery + search is not a simple thing :<
[11:38] <lifeless> hah
[11:38] <lifeless> 988 __metaclass__ = type
[11:38] <lifeless> just under the 1000 line limit
[11:41] <wgrant> What 1000 line limit?
[11:41] <wgrant> You mean the 800 line review limit?
[11:42] <lifeless> ah heh
[11:42] <lifeless> used to be 1K
[11:42] <lifeless> I think
[11:42] <lifeless> anyhow
[11:42] <lifeless> I'll beg :P
[11:45] <lifeless> hmm
[11:45] <lifeless> can't search for private bugs ?
[11:45] <lifeless> gnight
[18:41] <lifeless> anyone seen this before ?
[18:41] <lifeless> WARNING:root:Memcache set failed for pt:testrunner:lp/bugs/templates/bugtarget-portlet-latestbugs.pt,10721:243652:1,0:1,http_//<IP_ADDRESS>?IXiDEgHZPmgHvZKrJmNvh
[19:52] <james_w> could someone clear out old things from lp-source-dependencies?
[20:01] <maxb> lp-source-dependencies?
[20:03] <maxb> oh, the download-cache project :-)
[20:03] <maxb> And yes, please could someone do that? :-)
[20:13] <james_w> I don't think we need a copy of the tarball of the bzr 1.16 release on everyone's machines, nor a dozen releases of lazr.restful.
[20:22] <maxb> nor python 2.4 eggs :-)
[20:23] <maxb> or 10 versions of storm :-)
[20:38] <lifeless> bombs away
[20:40] <jelmer> 'morning lifeless, james_w, maxb
[20:40] <lifeless> hi jelmer
[20:41] <lifeless> jelmer: you should ask for a db review from stub too
[20:45] <jelmer> lifeless: ok
[20:45] <lifeless> I have done it in this instance
[20:45] <jelmer> lifeless: do I need two reviews or just because either of you can review?
[20:45] <lifeless> but he is authoritative
[20:45] <lifeless> you need two
[20:45] <lifeless> one to land, once you have a db patch id
[20:45] <lifeless> this is documented on the wiki
[21:44] <mwhudson> morning
[21:47] <jelmer> hellow
[22:06] <thumper> morning
[22:09] <mwhudson> thumper: congrats on that canonical_url fix finally landing
[22:09] <thumper> mwhudson: thanks
[22:27] <jml> hello antipodeans
[22:28] <mwhudson> jml: hello ex-antipodean
[22:29] <lifeless> hawwo
[22:32] <thumper> jml: are you skypable?
[22:32] <jml> thumper, sure. gimme a few minutes first though.
[22:33] <thumper> jml: sure, ping me when you are ready, I'm on a different v.desktop
[22:35] <jml> thumper, ping
[22:36] <weather15> Hello Everyone
[22:37] <weather15> I am trying to install Launchpad on my own server and I seem to be getting this error: Logging bzr into Launchpad (it's okay if this errors)... Making local branch of Launchpad trunk, this may take a while... Permission denied (publickey). bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. ERROR: Unable to create local copy of Rocketfuel tru
[22:41] <weather15> seems to be an SSH key problem
[22:42] <weather15> Just re-created mu ssh key and then updated it on the Launch Pad site and everything is working now
[23:04] <thumper> I'd like to welcome wallyworld to the LP dev team
[23:09] <lifeless> wallyworld ?
[23:10] <wgrant> Yay, more Australians :)
[23:12] <thumper> lifeless: Ian Booth :)
[23:14] <lifeless> welcome
[23:14] <lifeless> wgrant: you had me up to australians :P
[23:15] <weather15> It seems when trying to install Launch Pad I get this error: bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/shipit/trunk/
[23:15] <weather15> I browsed to the url and I get Unauthorized
[23:17] <weather15> If this an error I should ignore or is it more serious?
[23:19] <weather15> *Is
[23:19] <wgrant> You can ignore it, and everything will still work fine. ShipIt isn't accessible to community devs
[23:23] <weather15> okay can I ask one more question?
[23:24] <weather15> I ran cd devel then  ./utilities/launchpad-database-setup $USER and then make schema for some reason the command seems to hang
[23:24] <weather15> Heres the output: utilities/shhh.py PYTHONPATH= python bootstrap.py\                 --setup-source=ez_setup.py \                 --download-base=download-cache/dist --eggs=eggs rm -f /home/weather15/launchpad/lp-branches/devel/bin/py utilities/shhh.py PYTHONPATH= ./bin/buildout \                 configuration:instance_name=development -c buildout.cfg
[23:24] <weather15> It is still running yet how ever
[23:25] <wgrant> How long has it been running?
[23:25] <weather15> Should I stop the script? Or ..
[23:25] <weather15> or is there a problem because i ran the command in the dev directory?
[23:25] <weather15> The wiki says to
[23:31] <weather15> ?? ^
[23:31] <wgrant> weather15: How long has it been running?
[23:31] <weather15> 10 minutes
[23:32] <wgrant> Is it doing anything?
[23:32] <weather15> Nope
[23:32] <weather15> Just gave the output I posted above and then nothing else it's just hanging
[23:32] <weather15> New Output
[23:33] <weather15> Unknown entry URL:                     translation_file
[23:33] <weather15> and a few more like that
[23:33] <wgrant> It's working.
[23:33] <weather15> any idea as to what ^ this means?
[23:34] <wgrant> It's building.
[23:34] <wgrant> Give it a couple more minutes.
[23:34] <weather15> Okay I will
[23:34] <weather15> Never know what I might come across though
[23:36] <weather15> Warning: No permissions specified for [u'public.openidnonce', u'public.openidauthorization']
[23:37] <wgrant> that's normal.
[23:37] <weather15> the script has completed
[23:37] <weather15> I just sent my system down for reboot before I start to run it
[23:37] <weather15> Linux Core was updated
[23:38] <weather15> Then we wil see what happens
[23:38] <weather15> Okay once you start it it tells you to access that url from a local web browser
[23:39] <weather15> I am runnign Ubuntu Server so there is no web browser
[23:39] <weather15> *running
[23:40] <weather15> Error Starting: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/tmp/mailman/data/master-qrunner.pid' Is qrunner even running?
[23:42] <weather15> wgrant any idea as to what to do about this ^?
[23:42] <wgrant> weather15: Ignore it. It's not a problem.
[23:42] <weather15> Okay Great Thanks
[23:43] <weather15> What should I do about the Web Browser?
[23:43] <wgrant> https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/RemoteAccess
[23:44] <weather15> Okay Great Thanks for all of your assistance.


[01:06] <mup> Bug #1451490 changed: Installation failed with exception: Unexpected error while running command. <curtin:Triaged> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451490>
[08:10] <jgrassler> Good morning.
[08:11] <jgrassler> Is there some kind of trick to getting a hwe-u Kernel into a MAAS controller's boot images?
[08:12] <jgrassler> http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs1.5/hardware-enablement-kernels.html seems to suggest it being a simple matter of adding 'hwe-u' to the 'subarches' key for the release in question, but reality looks otherwise:
[08:12] <jgrassler> It works fine for a hwe-t Kernel, but for the hwe-u nothing gets added.
[13:27] <etbusch> Good morning all, I'm doing my first install, and am having trouble gettign my second NIC to act as a dhcp server, after putting in settings, ifconfig states that the interface is still down. Nodes connected to the second nic don't see a DHCP server when they boot PXE. What am I doing wrong here?
[14:29] <mup> Bug #1451852 was opened: Legacy VMware "add chassis" option should be removed <MAAS:Triaged by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451852>
[14:29] <mup> Bug #1451856 was opened: maas-proxy squid file limit reached <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451856>
[14:29] <mup> Bug #1451857 was opened: Probe-and-enlist for VMware needs to update VM config to use PXE boot <MAAS:Triaged by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451857>
[15:17] <mup> Bug #1451591 changed: MAC Address UI fields appear to disallow the selection of field content <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451591>
[16:17] <mup> Bug #1427160 changed: d-i allocates all disk space to /home <cts> <openstack> <MAAS:Invalid> <partman-auto (Ubuntu):Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1427160>
[22:32] <mup> Bug #1452053 was opened: Edit node name on node details page switches between '*.maas' and '*.local' <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1452053>