[16:26] <cajun> I'm running awn-trunk and Gnome on Kubuntu Intrepid and i want to know if anyone knows of a setting to keep a maximized window from maximizing the height completely. Over the weekend I reinstalled everything but on my prior installation, a maximized window did not go behind th AWN bar, but right now the AWN bar is on top of the bottom portion of the window.  This interferes with any use of the bottom portion of the window.
[16:26] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[16:27] <tschaub> sebsebseb: any list of cards known not to work?
[16:27] <sebsebseb> tschaub: no
[16:27] <sebsebseb> tschaub: don't think so
[16:27] <sebsebseb> tschaub: well maybe some where. Google?
[16:27] <pluscool> hello all! A quick Q: Is something wrong with mic sound in 8.10? I cant get a understandable sound in skype. If I uninstall pulse audio does it help?
[16:28] <G8_Zer0> I Need to build a new cheap and good ubuntu server. It will only host ftp server. any brand for mainboard/motherbaord you'll recommed so it will work with Ubuntu?
[16:28] <sebsebseb> pluscool: you will need to configure the sound in Skype, but I am not so sure as how to do that
[16:28] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: no, but 8.04  as the Ubuntu version
[16:28] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: since that's recommended for servers
[16:28] <n2diy> anybody suggest a good time trakker suitbale for billing customers?
[16:28] <Lucky58> cia a tt
[16:28] <Lucky58> !list
[16:29] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: ask  in  #linux about  Linux compatible hardware
[16:29] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: or maybe even #hardware
[16:29] <G8_Zer0> Cuz I tried to rebuild it out of an former packard bell dekstop, and ubuntu wont install, so will order some newstuff
[16:29] <G8_Zer0> ok thanks
[16:29] <pluscool> sebsebseb: Tnx. I tried that and skype says all ok. the sound I send is bad, not understandable.-
[16:30] <sebsebseb> pluscool: just wait, someone else will be able to help
[16:30] <cognitiaclaeves> Does ubuntu's implementation of screen suffer from not the message "termcap does not specify how to change the terminal's height" when trying to change height with:  "^a:height" ?
[16:30] <pluscool> sebsebseb: thanks anyway!
[16:30] <sebsebseb> G8_Zer0: good luck!
[16:31] <G8_Zer0> thx ;)
[16:31] <bennina> salve. mi è morta una pennetta/lettore mp3 da 1 gb come posso fare a formattarla/ recuperarla? quando la inserisco mi dice: "impossibile montare il volume "
[16:31] <LjL> !it | bennina
[16:31] <bennina> oops sorry!
[16:32] <lyhana8> hi, does anyone here installed digikam 0.9.5 ?
[16:32] <thm> hi! is there a way of putting the 9.04 beta usb image on an usb stick without wiping the stick's data?
[16:32] <jamiejackson> Is Subversion 1.6 available in any repos or as a .deb anywhere?
[16:32] <sebsebseb> thm: find out in #ubuntu+1
[16:32] <oCean_> thm: all jaunty issues go in channel #ubuntu+1, since it is still beta
[16:33] <demontager> How to share pppoe connection in order to connect windows machines via router?
[16:33] <thm> oCean_: sebsebseb ok, fine. the question itself is not related to a certain release, but anyway.
[16:33] <lyhana8> is a digikam 0.9.5 avaible into repo ?
[16:34] <arvind_khadri> !find digikam
[16:34] <LjL> lyhana8: no, version 0.10 will be available in Jaunty though
[16:34] <lyhana8> arvind_khadri: don't find the v0.9.5
[16:35] <Mellie> Hi is there anyone who needs help?
[16:35] <exitist> anyone here using 7.10 gutsy gibbon and is it worth upgrading to 8.10?
[16:35] <lyhana8> LjL: i'm on hardy => 0.9.5
[16:35] <Mellie> If nor Il leave
[16:35] <LjL> Mellie: if someone needs support, they'll ask, usually.
[16:36] <Mellie> fine
[16:37] <Mellie> Good bye enjoy your day.
[16:40] <thm> ok. #ubuntu+1 redirected me back here. how do I put *any* install/live .img on an usb stick without completely wiping it?
[16:40] <oCean_> exitist: you might want to consider upgrading to 8.04, which is LTS release. Or wait till end of april when 9.04 is released
[16:40] <LjL> thm: netbootin is one way
[16:41] <n2diy> anybody suggest a good time tracker suitable for billing customers?
[16:41] <LjL> thm: unetbootin, even
[16:42] <thm> LjL: thx, will have a look.
[16:42] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: you there?
[16:42] <LjL> shadeslayer: can you use PM to ask that...
[16:43] <energetic> where can i find the alt-tab or windowskey-tab appswitching UI code? compiz, ubuntu or gnome?
[16:43] <shadeslayer> LjL: its actually a ubuntu problem i left yesterday
[16:43] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: hi; what's up
[16:43] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: did you check the link i gave you?
[16:44] <erUSUL> energetic: in the code of the window manager you use. if it is compiz or metacity or whatever
[16:44] <energetic> ok, gracias
[16:44] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: you will have to refresh my memory...
[16:44] <michael__> hi! can anybody tell me how i find out whether there is a 32bit or a 64bit version of ubuntu installed on the current pc?
[16:44] <erUSUL> michael__: uname -m
[16:45] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: my ntfs mounts only with root,possibly bad fstab
[16:45] <michael__> erUSUL: so x86_64 means for sure 64 bit ?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> erUSUL:i couldnt "see" the ntfs in ' Places '
[16:45] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: i recomended using ntfs-config but that failed... didn't it?
[16:45] <erUSUL> michael__: yep
[16:45] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: yes
[16:46] <michael__> erUSUL: thx
[16:46] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: then i posted a link which described the problem as not having ,user, as on of the options in fstab
[16:47] <erUSUL> !ntfs
[16:47] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[16:47] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: ive already queried the bot :)
[16:47] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: there you will find the correct options
[16:48] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: specificaly here in that section https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Editing%20Ubuntu%27s%20filesystem%20table
[16:48] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: sure ill give it a spin
[16:49] <ihminen> I'm running a live cd  (8.10) but have trouble with the network - the computer does get an IP address and the right primary DNS, but it cannot ping, browse the internet or local network and also the routing table is empty. Trying to add a default gateway results in SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted. What can I do_
[16:49] <StR|Sangreal> hello, pls could you advise me some sw for editing images, but not layer based, so that its capable enough but not too compex to learn?
[16:49] <Mehdi> hello, for some reason I am banned from #ubuntu-offtopic, any clues how to get around it (no idea why)
[16:49] <LjL> Mehdi: ask in #ubuntu-ops please
[16:49] <supermouse> Hi Guys, can other users be added to a users primary group? i.e adding a user to the mysql users mysql primary group so that the user can access /usr/lib/mysql
[16:50] <shadeslayer> ping shadeslayer
[16:50] <shadeslayer> oops
[16:52] <michael__> erUSUL: just a last question about the 32/64bit stuff ... isnt an amd64-version ab better choice than x86_64? because i run a amd athlon 64bit?
[16:52] <suigeneris> hello
[16:52] <erUSUL> michael__: it is the same thing amd64 is just the name given in cd's and other places x86_64 is what the kernel gives when answered but it is the same thing
[16:53] <the10nitro> supermouse: if you go to System->Users and Groups->_username_->Properties->Advanced
[16:53] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: should i change /dev/sda3 /media/OS ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_IN 0 0 to /dev/sda3 /media/OS ntfs-3g ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[16:53] <suigeneris> under System | Preferences | Screen Resolution, I don't have 1024x768 anymore but I used to have it. how can I bring it back?
[16:53] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: yes but use rw instead of ro
[16:53] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:54] <michael__> erUSUL: i just ask because i ve got 2 installation cds right here ... one labelled 32bit and one 64bit ... and i am not sure which one i used for installation ...
[16:54] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: whats rw for btw?
[16:54] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: rw--> read/writte || ro --> read only
[16:55] <erUSUL> michael__: your cpu supports 64 bits ? how much ram do you have ?
[16:55] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:55] <akazawa> can someone reccomend the easiest way to migrate from one hard drive to a new hard drive? I have an external usb case for the new hard drive so I can transfer partitions
[16:55] <michael__> erUSUL: it is a athlon64 4000+ with 2gb ram
[16:56] <erUSUL> michael__: with 2 Gb of ram 32 bit is safest choice (althought your cpu supports 64 bits)
[16:56] <akazawa> what is the easiet way to migrate to a new hard drive?
[16:56] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: will it work only after reboot?
[16:56] <erUSUL> akazawa: partimage can copy partitions (i think gparted can too)
[16:56] <thiebaude> michael__: 64bit
[16:57] <michael__> erUSUL: ok ... but why safer? i jsut want it more performant :-)
[16:57] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: try "sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda3"
[16:57] <akazawa> erUSUL: does it also copy the bootlaoder?
[16:57] <nmpribeiro> hi there. Any dvd player to ubuntu?
[16:57] <epaphus> hey guys, is it easy to use wine.. to be able to play none free formats of movies?
[16:57] <zamba> Seeb: server
[16:57] <zamba> sebsebseb: server
[16:57] <Sonderblade> nmpribeiro: totem and mplayer can play dvds
[16:57] <erUSUL> michael__: welll thwere are some things that not work to well in 64 bits... w32codecs the java firefox plugin and a few others
[16:57] <suigeneris> under System | Preferences | Screen Resolution, I don't have 1024x768 anymore but I used to have it. how can I bring it back?
[16:58] <zamba> sebsebseb: running dapper on a server, that is :)
[16:58] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: Remounting is not supported at present. You have to umount volume and then mount it once again.
[16:58] <zamba> so it's supported until 2011
[16:58] <nmpribeiro> sonderblade: and it's structure also?
[16:58] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: well "sudo mount /dev/sda3"
[16:58] <UbuntuCop>  where do I get the official list of improvements of 9.04 ?
[16:58] <suigeneris> !dapper
[16:58] <fosco__> epaphus, wine is easy to use, but you can play any media with native linux players
[16:58] <suigeneris> !lts
[16:59] <michael__> erUSUL: so is x86_64 the best choice for the actual hardware?
[16:59] <Sonderblade> nmpribeiro: there may be bugs in the menues, but i've never seen a dvd that couldn't be played at all
[16:59] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: cant it mount without sudo?
[17:00] <erUSUL> michael__: no. again if you have 2 GB of ram there is no reason to go 64 bit... you can if you want and can live withe the very few drawbcks
[17:00] <nmpribeiro> Sounderblade: well... these ones are produced by me... but function in allmost any device. thanks anyway
[17:00] <erUSUL> shadeslayer: it will be mounted automatically at boot. you do not need to worry anymore
[17:00] <michael__> erUSUL: ok :-) thanx for your help, have a nice day ;-)
[17:00] <shadeslayer> erUSUL: i think my best bet it to upgrade to beta with ext4,im quite excited to try out jaunty since i have a pretty messed up install right now
[17:00] <erUSUL> michael__: no problem
[17:00] <shadeslayer> oh ok
[17:01] <epaphus> fosco_, apparently i was told here that certain .wmv have a none free encryption.. that involed a DMF identifier.. which i cannot play in linux...
[17:01] <Lego> hello could someone help me. i have re-installed kubuntu, (yes i know this is the kubuntu channel) but when kdm boots and I log in it kde4.1 splash freezes.. and when i try the failsafe i get this error  Xsession: unable to launch failsafe X session --- x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting.
[17:01] <suigeneris> hello?
[17:01] <nmpribeiro> what to do with unsupported devices in linux? how can one help to give info about the problem and to who will I give it? any kernel module developer there?
[17:01] <akazawa> suigeneris: hello
[17:02] <Antec-0303> I could use some help installing ubuntu 8.10
[17:02] <suigeneris> under System | Preferences | Screen Resolution, I don't have 1024x768 anymore but I used to have it. how can I bring it back?
[17:02] <akazawa> suigeneris: did you install a new videocard?
[17:02] <suigeneris> akazawa, nope
[17:03] <akazawa> suigeneris: nothing new?
[17:03] <suigeneris> akazawa, nope
[17:03] <UbuntuCop> any improvements with notebooks> specially wireless?
[17:03] <akazawa> suigeneris: have you already reset your machine?
[17:03] <the10nitro> If I swap 2 paragraphs in a text doc, would GNU diff tell me that I moved one, or that one was deleted, and another added?
[17:04] <suigeneris> akazawa, reset how?
[17:04] <akazawa> suigeneris: power-cycle
[17:04] <epaphus> how do I play windows media player within wine??
[17:04] <Heimark> UbuntuCop: compaired to when?
[17:04] <suigeneris> akazawa, there was a power failure yesterday
[17:04] <akazawa> suigeneris: was the resolution fine before the power failure?
[17:04] <UbuntuCop> Heimark> UbuntuCop: compaired to when?// previous version
[17:05] <suigeneris> akazawa, yes
[17:05] <MidnighToker> epaphus: in wine?
[17:05] <Picassotamus> epaphus: wine name_of_windows_media_player_executable.exe
[17:05] <magnetron> !appdb | epaphus
[17:05] <Heimark> UbuntuCop: are you talking 8.10 to 8.04?
[17:05] <UbuntuCop> 8.10
[17:05] <epaphus> Picassotamus, for that i need to grab the windows media player executable.. from somewhere right?
[17:05] <Heimark> 9.04*
[17:06] <MidnighToker> epaphus: why not just install the codecs and use totem/whatever media player you use?
[17:06] <akazawa> suigeneris: did you get an error when you started up after the power failure?
[17:06] <suigeneris> akazawa, from X? no
[17:07] <Picassotamus> epaphus: what MidnighToker said... plus you would need to check that WMP is supported by wine checking their app db first
[17:07] <akazawa> suigeneris: any error
[17:07] <suigeneris> no
[17:07] <Heimark> UbuntuCop: I was having a hell of a time with 8.10 on my netbook. Wireless wasn't much of a problem, but audio didn't work at all. An update to Jaunty alpha fixed everything.
[17:07] <UbuntuCop> I just don't to go through all the hassle of installing it in my laptop if wireless connection will suck. Heimark
[17:07] <MidnighToker> Heimark: is it intel HDA audio?
[17:07] <epaphus> MidnighToker, iinstalled the codecs... and use totem but a .wmv video still wont play
[17:07] <Heimark> yes it is
[17:07] <MidnighToker> epaphus: strange :S
[17:07] <Heimark> it is working now
[17:07] <MidnighToker> Heimark: ah right, nicely
[17:08] <EvilAIM> epaphus, try VLC
[17:08] <EvilAIM> sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:08] <VoodooDance> Greetings..
[17:08] <VoodooDance> Does anyone know how to mount a boot partition on ubuntu?  It's not defined in my fstab...
[17:08] <EvilKnight>  :)
[17:08] <epaphus> EvilAIM, is that a codec?
[17:08] <Heimark> now how do I go about getting my Canon MP970 to work?
[17:09] <Heimark> trade someone for an HP?
[17:09] <EvilAIM> heimark: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612164
[17:09] <grawity> LjL: O.o Bot broken?
[17:09] <amigo_rich> VoodooDance: mount -t <type> /dev/<device> /boot
[17:10] <LjL> grawity: just a bit, old bug
[17:10] <the10nitro> !help
[17:10] <VoodooDance> amigo_rich: ty
[17:10] <amigo_rich> VoodooDance: You can probably leave the type out though.
[17:10] <puttblug> Question about /etc/network/intefaces ... i've got an alias IP configured for eth0; last line of 'interfaces' has: auto eth0 eth0:1 .... upon system boot, it hangs on 'configuring network interfaces' for about a bloody year before finally continuing with boot process.
[17:10] <VoodooDance> amigo_rich: cool
[17:10] <swiftarrow> Hi I have a problem.  I'm using xubuntu 64, and recently it has started acting up on boot.  During the boot, it goes to text mode, scrolls a bunch of messages quite fast, and then the system starts beeping, continuously, just as something about initrd comes up in the messages.  Then It starts the normal boot messages (something ..... [OK]), with the beep continuing.  Finally, the beep switches from very loud to very quiet (but still on) and it goes int
[17:11] <puttblug> Once I get to a command line, ifconfig indicates that eth0 & eth0:1 are indeed active.  ... anyone have insight about this interminable hang-up?
[17:11] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: you got cut off at "and it goes int"
[17:11] <UbuntuCop> with all this trouble with Chinese and Russians Hackers I definitively want to dish Windows once and for all. in fact They are tracing Conficker back to Russia
[17:11] <swiftarrow> ok.. and it goes into graphical mode.  Sometimes it goes into the proper gdm login screen, but the last few times it has just turned up a screen with a seemingly random pink cloud like structure on the screen, and stops.  Nothing works.  Any Ideas?
[17:11] <swiftarrow> [9:41pm] puttblug: Once I get to a command line, ifconfig indicates that eth0 & eth0:1 are indeed active.  ... anyone have insight about this interminable hang-up?
[17:12] <swiftarrow> eh? i didnt say that.
[17:12] <swiftarrow> All the way up to Any Ideas is mine.
[17:12] <amigo_rich> puttblug: Is there anything pertinent in /var/log/messages?
[17:13] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: I 'spect you're going to have to dig up some error messages, unless someone here has a case of the crystal balls. :)
[17:13] <puttblug> amigo_rich: Not that I can see.
[17:13] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, any idea how I can do that?
[17:13] <Heimark> EvilAIM: I've seen that before. I don't really want to have to buy turbo print though.
[17:14] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: wee-ell, /var/log/messages is a good place to start spelunking
[17:14] <swiftarrow> Rytmis: ok, I will try. Thanks.
[17:14] <UbuntuCop> Heimark My experience is that Canon Has given more trouble driverwise than any other brand I still can not make my Combo printer work specially that scanner.
[17:15]  * puttblug thinks something is up w/resolv.conf ... odd.
[17:15] <puttblug> I thought the dns-nameservers section of an eth* block in /etc/network/interfaces was responsible for setting /etc/resolv.conf ... am I mistaken?
[17:15] <Heimark> UbuntuCop: yeah, I think I'll probably just switch it out for my parents cheaper HP, I'm sure it will work just fine with XP for them.
[17:16] <suigeneris> akazawa, any help for me?
[17:16] <UbuntuCop> I was fired on April fool's day I was expecting To receive a call saying it was all a joke, nothing so far  T_T
[17:17] <epaphus> EvilAIM, is that a codec?
[17:17] <amigo_rich> puttblug: Are you using DHCP or is the connection static?
[17:18] <xs67634> i love ubuntu!
[17:18] <Heimark> we all do
[17:18] <epaphus> EvilAIM, the movie plays but fuzzy
[17:18] <oCean_> UbuntuCop: This channel is for support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for other chatter
[17:18] <epaphus> and no sound
[17:18] <xs67634> the best OS the world
[17:18] <Tiefenrausch> maybe it is
[17:18] <UbuntuCop> I need some moral support
[17:18] <ikonia> xs67634: ok - if you could keep this channel to support questions only, that would be great
[17:19] <Tiefenrausch> but they really should integrate a support system which is connected with their website
[17:19] <Tiefenrausch> that would be really nice
[17:23] <zamba> i want to get rdiff-backup package from a newer version of ubuntu.. how can i do this?
[17:23] <xs67634> i love ubuntu!!
[17:23] <zamba> i'm currently running ubuntu dapper
[17:23] <oCean_> !away > Mud|shower
[17:23] <Jostein> I'll find out
[17:23] <xs67634> the best OS of the world
 i love ubuntu!!// didn't you say that already ?
[17:24] <oCean_> xs67634: as pointed out before: this channel is for support issues only. Stay on topic.
[17:24] <UbuntuCop> I's pretty cool but not the best
[17:24] <prince_jammys> I is pretty cool myself
[17:24] <xs67634> no,it is the best
[17:24] <xs67634> it is true
[17:25] <oCean_> UbuntuCop: xs67634  stop this discussion please. You can take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:25] <xs67634> in the magazine pcs ...you read any..
[17:26] <ikonia> xs67634: please stop
[17:26] <UbuntuCop> ok Let's talk about some issues so you can fulfill the reason of your existence, Canon mx310 , Scanner does not work. Any solutions oCean_ ?
[17:26] <xs67634> what?
[17:26] <ikonia> xs67634: it's been made clear to you this channel is for support discussion ony
[17:26] <xs67634> it's true come on
[17:26] <ikonia> xs67634: no - stop now, this will be your final warning
[17:26] <ikonia> UbuntuCop: what have you done to set it up, and where is it failing ?
[17:27] <oCean_> !work | UbuntuCop
[17:27] <oCean_> UbuntuCop: besides that, you can address the channel, not just me
[17:28] <UbuntuCop> I have a multifunctions printer and the scanner it is simply no recognized
[17:28] <ikonia> UbuntuCop: not recognised where, what have you done to set it up/ use it ?
[17:28] <xs67634> UbuntuCop ???
[17:28] <bpr> I'm using 8.10 on a thinkpad t61.  I've just recently pulled updates for my nvidia drivers and xserver, and now my machine will not properly resume from suspend.    Is anyone familiar with this issue and perhaps a fix?
[17:29] <ikonia> bpr: which nvidia updates, from where ?
[17:29] <bpr> through the restricted drivers manager
[17:29] <ikonia> bpr: and it won't wake from suspend at all ?
[17:29] <njk123> hi all
[17:29] <Excell> I have a problem: I (in sessions) tried to get fire starter to load on boot...i was not aware it was pass word only start...I deleted it from sessions...(now) the gui still wants to start asking for permissions...how do I stop this?
[17:29] <xs67634> UbuntuCop is a ignorant
[17:30] <UbuntuCop> Well what would be the proper way to set it up. since there is an app in ubuntu use to scan documents but it does not recognize my device, like it does not exist
[17:30] <grawity> \o/
[17:30] <bpr> ikonia: i get a black screen.  It looks like it might be awake though.  Sorry for the poor answer there
[17:30] <spanther> ikonia, lol you ask weird questions sometimes xD
[17:30] <ikonia> bpr: no no, thats fine
[17:30] <ikonia> spanther: what weird question ?
[17:30] <mate1> hi
[17:30] <njk123> my laptop takes years to start, I m using intrepid and it shows activating swap file for a long time
[17:30] <veritos> The Ubuntu server edition just installs ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard (as well as kernel, language pack, and other stuff)?
[17:30] <njk123> plz help
 UbuntuCop is a ignorant// yes I am an ignorant
[17:30] <ikonia> UbuntuCop: please ignore it - he's gone
[17:30] <spanther> ikonia, he said it doesnt come out again and the next time you asked for the exactly same he answered before ^^
[17:31] <mate1> ill just go ahead and ask the question
[17:31] <ikonia> spanther: re-read what I asked and his response
[17:31] <spanther> i do :)
[17:31] <ikonia> bpr: so it looks like it's actaully awake, but the screen is not alive
[17:31] <shawn_> when does jaunty officially come out?
[17:31] <mate1> how can i see a pc from my ubuntu??
[17:31] <shawn_> the 10th?
[17:31] <Minor723> Anyone help me with my ubuntu crashing? I installed the nvidia 177 drivers and now my ubuntu wont startup
[17:31] <oCean_> mate1: if you have network activated, you can 'reach' other computers
[17:31] <bpr> ikonia: yes.  though i haven't tried sshing in from remote
[17:31] <bpr> ikonia: so i can't be sure
[17:32] <mate1> how do i do that?
[17:32] <ikonia> bpr: that would be a helpful test so we can look at your logs while it's in the unknown state
[17:32] <mate1> its a computer with windows..
[17:32] <Excell> Minor723: .. recovery mode?
[17:32] <UbuntuCop> With ubuntu 8.10 was also havin a probling with the header of every windows , it did vanish
[17:32] <Rytmis> mate1: what do you mean by "see a pc"?
[17:32] <bpr> ikonia: ok.  I can't do that right now though :-/
[17:32] <UbuntuCop> *problem
[17:32] <shawn_> matel: if it has file sharing enabled you should be able to just search for it
[17:32] <mate1> mean reach a computer
[17:32] <ikonia> bruenig: understood
[17:32] <ikonia> bruenig: oops, sorry
[17:32] <ikonia> bpr: understood
[17:32] <Rytmis> mate1: you and I probably have wildly different definitions for "reach"
[17:32] <oCean_> mate1: Do you know the name or ip-address the windows machine uses? Then (for starters) you can "ping" that computer.
[17:33] <CrIp> how do i roll back / edit my video card drviers ?
[17:33] <mate1> aha
[17:33] <CrIp> cos they have shat emselves
[17:33] <shawn_> matel: if you're using gnome, you can just go to "Places"-->"Network". assuming you have sharing enabled on the windows machine
[17:33] <Rytmis> oCean_: I 'spect he means SMB shares. :-)
[17:33] <Minor723> Excell I have tried all the options inrecovery mode none of them work. I can get to the login screen with regurlar mode. It just says kinit: No Resume image
[17:33] <CrIp> i cant change visual effects
[17:33] <amigo_rich> njk123: what does cat /proc/swaps show?
[17:33] <asdasd> hi, how can I set up a wireless network
[17:33] <oCean_> Rytmis: ah, that is very well possible
[17:33] <mate1> i want to acces a computer thats on my network to get some files from it
[17:33] <shawn_> matel: do you have file sharing enabled on the windows machine?
[17:33] <mate1> the computer i want to acces has windows
[17:34] <mate1> yes
[17:34] <spanther> asdasd, is your wireless network an intel WiFi ? :)
[17:34] <CrIp> how do i roll back / edit my video card drviers ?
[17:34] <Excell> Minor723:  did you try to re-do X in recovery mode?
[17:34] <asdasd> I have no clue, how can I find it out?
[17:34] <njk123> hello does anyone have the answer to my question?
[17:34] <shawn_> matel: do you have the files you're trying to get listed as available to share? you have to do this physically on the windows machine
[17:34] <ikonia> bpr: do you still have the old kernel installed (I believe there was a kernel update with the nvidia package)
[17:34] <spanther> asdasd, your manual :)
[17:34] <mate1> yes
[17:34] <Minor723> Yes, I will try again, but its doing the same thing. Is there a command I can run to redo x? I dont think thats whats wrong though because I restored xorg.conf from a backup i made and its still not working
[17:34] <bpr> ikonia: let me check
[17:35] <asdasd> I'd guess it is
[17:35] <shawn_> matel: are you using standard ubuntu, i.e. gnome?
[17:35] <CrIp> . how do i roll back / edit my video card drviers ?
[17:35] <mate1> yes
[17:35] <eterna1> woot woot 29 mins left of   update.
[17:35] <asdasd> I'm assuming it is an Intel WiFi
[17:35] <shawn_> matel: if so, just go to "Places" then click on "Network" and you should be able to see your computer there
[17:35] <mate1> ok
[17:35] <mate1> ill try that
[17:36] <mate1> and let you know..
[17:36] <bradly> Is there to increase the scroll length of my terminal?
[17:36] <bpr> ikonia: yes i have many kernels haha.  2.6.27-14-generic is the newest.  I do have 2.6.27-13-generic and more available
[17:36] <spanther> asdasd, if so then just click the network icon on the upper left side and you see some wireless networks
[17:37] <piglit> hello there what was the command (in command line) to check if your hard disk is working in the right order?
[17:37] <shawn_> piglit: you'll have to install smartmontools
[17:37] <shawn_> piglit: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[17:37] <saerg> CrIp: did you install them with apt or synaptic?
[17:38] <Minor723> I just did xfix and rebooted, same problem. How can I find out why ubuntu is not booting
[17:38] <Machtin> piglit: maybe a "sudo fdisk -l" already gives you what you want
[17:38] <shawn_> piglit: then use the command sudo smartctl -H /dev/sdX where X is the drive you want
[17:38] <CrIp> not sure
[17:38] <piglit> oke thank i'll try that!!! :-))
[17:38] <Rytmis> saerg: is there a difference?
[17:38] <CrIp> somethng happened on one of the updates
[17:39] <rox>
[17:39] <Rytmis> saerg: or were you just going for the "dis you use a package manager" angle? :)
[17:39] <UbuntuCop> noone there
[17:39] <CrIp> saerg,
[17:39] <ikonia> bpr: I think you have the proposed repo enabled
[17:39] <ikonia> bpr: that could well be the problem, those packages are not stable
[17:39] <bpr> ikonia: ah. let me see
[17:39] <saerg> Rytmis: he might have used a binary driver with some installer
[17:39] <shawn_> piglit: if you have a SATA drive it'll be /dev/sdX if its an IDE it'll be /dev/hdX
[17:39] <bpr> ikonia: yes i do
[17:39] <bpr> ikonia: is there a way to gracefully downgrade?
[17:40] <Minor723> Excell, are you still here. I am still having problems with this new kernel / nvidia driver
[17:40] <ikonia> bpr: ok, I suspect that will cause you pain, disable it, and use the 2.6.27-11 kernel and see how you get on
[17:40] <sequethin> is there an alternative server i can tell update manager to use? it's crawling so slowly right now :(
[17:40] <ikonia> bpr: the next round of updates will tidy up for you
[17:40] <shawn_> piglit: an easy way to find out is to type "df -h" and see which is mounted on /
[17:40] <bpr> ikonia: ok thanks
[17:41]  * bruenig shakes fist at ikonia
[17:41] <saerg> CrIp: you can install a specific version of a package with: sudo apt-get install packe-name=version-number
[17:41] <bpr> ikonia: should i disable backports as well?
[17:41] <mate1> shawn_: i can see the network, but i still can see the files i want
[17:41] <CrIp> how do i find out what bloody driver i need saerg
[17:41] <CrIp> and check settings ?
[17:42] <CrIp> ive just hit re download and re-install on all vid drivers
[17:42] <CrIp> ill see if that werks
[17:42] <CrIp> ill be back
[17:42] <CrIp> maybe :)
[17:42] <asdasd> I'm having problems with installing wireless networks. Is there a way to configure my already existing wireless chip?
[17:43] <zamba> i want to install a package on ubuntu dapper from a newer ubuntu version.. how can i do this?
[17:43] <sequethin> asdasd: if your card is supported it's not so hard
[17:43] <asdasd> I'm not sure if it is
[17:43] <asdasd> How do I configure it if it is supported?
[17:44] <shawn_> zamba: I'm not sure that can be done
[17:44] <zamba> shawn_: ok?
[17:44] <shawn_> zamba: the easiest thing to do is search getdeb or build it from source
[17:44] <zamba> shawn_: isn't that what's called backporting?
[17:44] <saerg> CrIp: how do you know that your video driver is faulty?
[17:44] <CrIp> cos it was werking
[17:44] <CrIp> now im getting sketchy lines on bootup
[17:44] <CrIp> and vide playback is slow
[17:44] <shawn_> zamba: I mean, its potentially possible but you'll have to find the actual deb file and make sure you can meet all the requirements
[17:44] <CrIp> saerg,
[17:44] <shawn_> zamba: the easiest method would be to simply compile it from source
[17:45] <bpr> ikonia: thanks for your help.
[17:45] <CrIp> saerg,  ?
[17:45] <CrIp> ill try re-booting with these updated drivers
[17:45] <CrIp> if not i spose i can format
[17:45] <saerg> CrIp: xorg.log shows what driver is used
[17:46] <sequethin> asdasd: iwconfig
[17:46] <wez_> list
[17:46] <sequethin> asdasd: iwconfig from the terminal is how i set mine up initially
[17:46] <shawn_> asdasd: ifconfig is easier
[17:46] <Minor723> Is there a way to remove the nvidia drivers from command line
[17:47] <shawn_> Minor723: just boot into xsafe-terminal or use the last successful login script
[17:47] <Soyo> how do you uninstall xwindows? sudo apt-get autoremove something I imagine
[17:48] <asdasd> I just found out what my wireless chip is
[17:48] <asdasd> So, could someone please explain step by step how do I configure it?
[17:48] <manojo> sudo apt-get uninstall should be okay
[17:48] <shawn_> Soyo: if you're not sure what the package is, do a sudo apt-cache search PACKAGENAME
[17:48] <Soyo> shawn_ thanks!
[17:49] <shawn_> asdasd: do a "lspci | grep -i wireless"
[17:49] <shawn_> asdasd: and paste the output here
[17:49] <asdasd> Alright
[17:49] <marie_blubb> I installed samba, now I dont know how to find the other computers. where can I enter the Ip of the other pc?
[17:49] <asdasd> I'll do that
[17:49] <asdasd> No output actually
[17:49] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: ok
[17:49] <asdasd> lspci | grep -i wireless
[17:49] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: places > computer
[17:50] <shawn_> asdasd: hmm no output... is the wireless card you're using set up with a PCI or USB port?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: no try something else first. places > network
[17:50] <shawn_> asdasd: you could also try the same thing with lsusb
[17:50] <asdasd> It should be internal
[17:50] <asdasd> I have a laptop
[17:50] <sequethin> internal doesn't mean it's not using usb
[17:50] <asdasd> Hmm
[17:50] <asdasd> ALright
[17:50] <shawn_> asdasd: I have a laptop and it shows up as lspci, it could still be using usb internally
[17:50] <asdasd> so what do I type?
[17:50] <shawn_> lsusb | grep -i wireless
[17:50] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: and then windows network, you can get on it?
[17:51] <asdasd> No output again
[17:51] <asdasd> =X
[17:51] <asdasd> Does this mean I'm fucked?
[17:51] <shawn_> hmm
[17:51] <sebsebseb> !language |  asdasd
[17:51] <shawn_> it just means its not recognized by the system bus
[17:51] <asdasd> Oh, sorry
[17:51] <shawn_> it might just not include the word "wireless" in the name
[17:51] <asdasd> I'll keep that in mind
[17:51] <sequethin> not looking good, but there may be hope
[17:51] <sebsebseb> asdasd: saying screwed would have been better
[17:51] <shawn_> do you know what kind of computer you have?
[17:51] <asdasd> Sorrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy
[17:52] <sequethin> shawn_: would it show up in dmesg? the wireless i mean
[17:52] <sebsebseb> asdasd: personally I don't care that much, but the ops do
[17:52] <nperry> asdasd, Pastebing lspci
[17:52] <shawn_> sequethin: potentially at the start of dmesg
[17:52] <shawn_> sequethin: when initializing the system bus
[17:52] <nperry> I mean pastebin
[17:52] <sequethin> shawn_: i would suggest it to asdasd but wasn't sure it would show up there
[17:53] <sequethin> i had a card that needed some additional firmware once
[17:53] <asdasd> nperry: http://pastebin.com/m72de7b8c
[17:53] <sequethin> but even that showed up in lspci
[17:53] <shawn_> sequethin: well dmesg typically tells it what driver to load, for instance mine outputs: [   26.060155] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4318 WLAN found
[17:53] <shawn_> [   26.516632] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PLR, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
[17:54] <sequethin> shawn_: so it might show up and some unknown device in dmesg output
[17:54] <shawn_> sequethin: possibly
[17:54] <leminhvuong1512> hi hi hi!!!
[17:54] <shawn_> aha!
[17:54] <Lint> where can I get "libltdl3"?
[17:54] <shawn_> asdasd: you have a broadcom
[17:54] <asdasd> I found that one out
[17:54] <shawn_> asdasd: thanks for the pastebin btw
[17:54] <shawn_> #
[17:54] <shawn_> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[17:55] <shawn_> asdasd: have you tried using the restricted hardware tool? that's what I used an it works fine
[17:55] <asdasd> I'll try
[17:55] <marie_blubb> sebsebseb yes, thanks, i found it, also something similar if I go into Konqueror or also in Samba itself. but where do I tell samba where to find the other PCs (they all linked with one router)
[17:56] <Lint> what is "libltdl3" and where I can get this one?
[17:56] <nperry> asdasd,  Youve got #
[17:56] <nperry> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[17:56] <asdasd> No proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[17:56] <Rytmis> You don't really tell Samba where to find things. The computers sort of announce themselves to each other on the network, far as I know, anyway.
[17:56] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: not sure, but in the location bar you can try like  smb://internal ip address
[17:56] <shawn_> asdasd: did you just recently install the system and is the system hooked up to a wired connection?
[17:56] <asdasd> I did just recently install the system
[17:56] <nperry> asdasd,  Are you on the laptop at the min?
[17:56] <asdasd> And the system _is_ hooked up to a wired connection
[17:57] <leminhvuong1512>
[17:57] <Rytmis> One thing that affects smb access is the workgroup/domain name -- it should match the one in use on the Windows machines.
[17:57] <leminhvuong1512> hello
[17:57] <asdasd> And yeah, I'm on the laptop right now
[17:57] <leminhvuong1512> hello
[17:57] <shawn_> asdasd: sometimes it'll take a restart or two for everything to show up (which mine did with my ATI driver)
[17:57] <FloodBot1> leminhvuong1512: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <shawn_> asdasd: try doing a "sudo aptitude update"
[17:57] <leminhvuong1512> exit
[17:57] <shawn_> and then rechecking
[17:57] <sebsebseb> leminhvuong1512: hi
[17:57] <sebsebseb> leminhvuong1512: no don't exit, what do you want help with
[17:57] <uber> anyone know how to fix choppy video?
[17:58] <nperry> asdasd, Got the near enough same card and there is ATA WIRELESSS in hardware drivers
[17:58] <nperry> Try sudo apt-get update
[17:58] <nperry> then look again
[17:58] <shawn_> asdasd: from what I'm seeing, I'm betting you have an HP or dell computer
[17:58] <asdasd> I have an Acer actually
[17:58] <tuxforce> goodevening to all
[17:58] <shawn_> asdasd: ah, just a really similar setup to my HP
[17:58] <tuxforce> :)
[17:58] <asdasd> Alright
[17:58] <shawn_> asdasd: LOTS of the same hardward
[17:59] <nperry> and my Dell :P
[17:59] <shawn_> hardware*
[17:59] <asdasd> right now upgrading
[17:59] <tuxforce> i have a old pentium 3 533 Mhz width 32 mb di ram.. i can installa ubuntu ?
[17:59] <leminhvuong1512> what about are you talking?
[17:59] <shawn_> asdasd: so yeah do a sudo aptitude update, and the sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:59] <tuxforce> it is a very old pc
[17:59] <asdasd> How does it differ from sudo apt-get upgrade?
[17:59] <shawn_> asdasd: it might tell you to restart, if it does, you should listen and then come back
[17:59] <asdasd> or does it?
[17:59] <shawn_> asdasd: apt-get is technically deprecated, but far more common
[18:00] <asdasd> Will it do the job?
[18:00] <shawn_> asdasd: aptitude has better system checking
[18:00] <shawn_> asdasd: yeah, they have the same overall goal
[18:00] <asdasd> awesome
[18:00] <asdasd> 8min 30sec left
[18:00] <asdasd> =/
[18:00] <shawn_> asdasd: aptitude also has a better CLI (if you just type sudo aptitude, there's a DOS like GUI)
[18:00] <shawn_> asdasd: oh wow, you must have like literally just installed
[18:00] <asdasd> I HAVE
[18:01] <asdasd> I literally
[18:01] <asdasd> installed it like 20 minutes ago
[18:01] <jardi> Hi all
[18:01] <Picassotamus> !enter
[18:01] <shawn_> asdasd: shoulda waited like 8 days, jaunty jackalope is coming out then
[18:01] <shawn_> asdasd: jaunty has ext4 support and such
[18:01] <Machtin> 8 days? more like 21, or not?
[18:01] <Rytmis> shawn_: ITYM Ubuntu 9.04 ;)
[18:01] <asdasd> I'll just upgrade it when it comes out
[18:02] <_VIM_> yep more like 21 days
[18:02] <mate1> i have a question!
[18:02] <shawn_> asdasd: yeah, I typically do clean installs purely because its overall easier
[18:02] <shawn_> rytmis: itym?
[18:02] <Rytmis> shawn_: I Think You Mean
[18:02] <jardi> I'm trying to build GnomeShell, but I have this message : "configure: error: Python headers not found". Any idea what package I need to install ?
[18:02] <Ienorand> mate1: ask the question, do not ask to ask the question...
[18:02] <shawn_> rytmis: 9.04 is jaunty jackalope
[18:02] <mate1> if i have lets say ubuntu 8.0, does it upgrade automatically to 9.0??
[18:02]  * sebsebseb will clean  install  and do Ext4  when  9.04 is out and the reviews are good enough for Ext4.  in the mean time this beta on  Ext3
[18:03] <Jeruvy> !upgrade | mate1
[18:03] <sequethin> mate1: you'll get a message saying "hey theres a new distro out"
[18:03] <shawn_> matel: yes, upgrade tool will give you the option to do a distribution upgrade
[18:03] <sebsebseb> mate1: no and for Ext4 the new file system, you would have to clean install.  or do something for limited functionality in Ext3
[18:03] <nperry> sebsebseb,
[18:03] <Rytmis> shawn_: I was trying to humorously refer to the fact that jaunty isn't the official name. :)
[18:03] <saerg> jardi: http://bloc.eurion.net/archives/2008/installing-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-intrepid/
[18:03] <joa_> Can someone explain how I could get X11 to work with both ATI and Nvidia cards? E.g. on one laptop I have an ATI and on another I have an Nvidia -- but X is of course always screwed..
[18:03] <sebsebseb> nperry: what?
[18:03] <nperry> Woops pressed enter to early, my bad, Ive read so many problems with ext4 just havent had any myself
[18:03] <joa_> Once I switch between the laptops
[18:03] <Ienorand> mate1: depending on your settings, it will inform you when a new release is available and allow you to update yes.
[18:03] <UbuntuCop>  what is a good size for the swap partition. 250 Gb HD?
[18:03] <shawn_> sebsebseb: you can load ext3 as ext4, you just lose a lot of the new features
[18:03] <jardi> thanks saerg
[18:03] <sebsebseb> shawn_: I know
[18:03] <mate1> so it doesent upgrade?
[18:03] <shawn_> rytmis: isn't it?
[18:04] <mate1> because some said yes others said no
[18:04] <shawn_> matel: it'll upgrade your distribution, but not your filesystem
[18:04] <Rytmis> shawn_: Nah, the official name is always Ubuntu Y.MM
[18:04] <sebsebseb> mate1: you have to tell it to upgrade, but you won't get Ext4 after a Ext3 upgrade
[18:04] <sequethin> UbuntuCop: if you have enough ram your swap doesn't need to be so big, more of an emergency "omg i ran out of ram" thing, imho
[18:04] <shawn_> rytmis: well yeah, but they all have codenames and "jaunty" is 9.04
[18:04] <mate1> aha
[18:04] <Rytmis> shawn_: I know, I know. Hence the "humorously".
[18:05] <shawn_> rytmis: haha, ok
[18:05] <Ienorand> UbuntuCop: If you want hibernation, about the size of your total RAM.
[18:05] <UbuntuCop> 4 GB
[18:05] <sequethin> Ienorand: good point, i forget about hibernation
[18:05] <amgarching> cannot find the "frontline" app in Ubuntu repositories. This was a simple interface to "autotrace" bitmap-to-vector conversion tool. Any idea?
[18:05] <shawn_> ubuntucop: my swap is only about half of my total ram, but you can also look into suspend2ram instead of using hibernate
[18:05] <jelly-bean> i want to listen to shoutcast internet radio in linux (ubuntu). can anyone recommend any good clients? preferably with built-in shoutcast radio directory browsers like WinAMP has.
[18:05] <sebsebseb> nperry: yeah I would have done the beta  on Ext4 maybe,  if I didn't have so much data to  deal with on my seprate home partition.  yep in my case all as Ext4 or nothing.   blah de blah anyway off topic here
[18:06] <Rytmis> joa_: I'm inclined to think that when you switch from one laptop to another, you also switch from one ubuntu install to another, and hence the X configurations are independent of each other?
[18:06] <shawn_> sebsebseb: you could always recompile with ext4-trunk support and modify it now
[18:06] <Lint> I cannot install package due to inresolved dependencies, what can I do?
[18:06] <joa_> Actually, is there any way to install both drivers at all?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> shawn_: not sure what you mean
[18:06] <jardi> saerg: I had some package to add, but the result is the same. By the way, I'm on jaunty, not intrepid
[18:06] <Ienorand> UbuntuCop: So I guess something like  4.2GB would work there...
[18:06] <shawn_> Lint: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:06] <joa_> Rytmis: No, I have it on an external hard drive
[18:06] <shawn_> sebsebseb: you can map your ext3 to ext4 if you want now
[18:07] <Rytmis> joa_: that's just *weird* :)
[18:07] <Lint> sudo apt-get update what?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> shawn_: Ext3 can't be properly changed to Ext4
[18:07] <shawn_> Lint: that's it, sudo apt-get update
[18:07] <shawn_> sebsebseb: well it sort of can, that's why you need the dev ext4 kernel compile
[18:07] <shawn_> sebsebseb: it kidn of upmaps current ext3 partitions
[18:07] <shawn_> kind*
[18:07] <UbuntuCop> Does Acronis  work to back up a partition In EXT3 ?
[18:07] <shawn_> sebsebseb: you can get more of the new features, but still not all of them
[18:08] <joa_> Well a small hard drive is more leightweight than a laptop, so I carry the harddisk arround. But I home I have an ATI card and at work Nvidia ... That's my problem
[18:08] <mate1> whats ext4 and ext3? and whats does it mean that i wont get an ext 4 if i upgrade??
[18:08] <sebsebseb> shawn_: well I have issues in my beta, that I don't think are the betas. fault, but this was an upgrade from 8.10 to  9.04 alpha6, to the beta.  and we are off topic here
[18:08] <macman_> how can i make a bootable .img file out of a folder in linux / ubuntu ?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> shawn_: so yeah I may as well re install
[18:08] <nperry> asdasd, Any luck?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> shawn_: once final is out of 9.04 and the Ext4 reviews are good
[18:08] <Rytmis> joa_: Yeah, I get that, but still I'd just keep /home on the portable drive and install everything else per-machine. :)
[18:08] <shawn_> sebsebseb: oh yeah, that's what I recommend too, its what I'm gonna do, I just thought you were saying you had too much data to move around
[18:08] <Rotlaus> I just installed ubuntu-minimal with awesome as Windowmanager. Web, Chat, Flash and Mail is working as excepted, but what packages do i need to install to get sound working?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> shawn_: yep  I got data to go through, delete stuff, move stuff about,   would be easier if I had my own external, but no not yet
[18:09] <shawn_> sebsebseb: I'm running out of room with two 500 GB externals, a 30 GB external, and a 100 GB internal
[18:09] <shawn_> sebsebseb: =/
[18:09] <saerg> jardi: i don't run jaunty, sorry. maybe ask in #gnome-shell on irc.gnome.org
[18:09] <sebsebseb> shawn_: most of my data is downloads anyway, so not exactly important
[18:10] <shawn_> sebsebseb: well I'm currently in the process of backing up all my wii games (hooray for the USB backup loader)
[18:10] <shawn_> sebsebseb: but that's taking up a good 100 GB itself
[18:10] <sebsebseb> shawn_: we are off go pm?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> we are off topic
[18:12] <ezzieyguywuf> my xorg is consuming 95% of one of my cores. I'm running 8.10 with an ATI V5200. I've tried both the open source and the proprietery drivers and the problem persists. any help?
[18:12] <UbuntuCop> anybody knows what wubi.exe is on ubuntu 9.04 iso ?
[18:13] <graingert> UbuntuCop-> it is wubi
[18:13] <Nasra> sebsebseb: do I have to make folder for other distro in the /home?
[18:13] <graingert> !wubi | UbuntuCop
[18:13] <LjL> !jaunty > UbuntuCop    (UbuntuCop, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:13] <Nasra> sebsebseb: an then burn the iso...
[18:14] <sebsebseb> Nasra: ok your here again,  chat to me on  Pidgin or  IRC pm.   what your doing now is off topic  here
[18:14] <Nasra> off-topic
[18:14] <Nasra> ?
[18:15] <UbuntuCop> Is there a way to modify Grub so the primary os to boot is Windows longhorn?
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Nasra: yes running other distros in vm's is not exactly  on topic here.  in this situation
[18:15] <Doonz> Hey guys, Ok heres what i have. I have a headless server running 8.10 i want to be able to remote desktop into it. I only have ssh access to the box. Can someone point me in the direction of a tutorial to follow
[18:15] <shawn_> Doonz: man ssh?
[18:15] <Doonz> no
[18:16] <Doonz> want to install a remote desktop sever so i can from my windows desktop use vncviewer and utilize the ubuntu desktop
[18:16] <arvind_khadri> UbuntuCop, yes
[18:16] <UbuntuCop>  how?
[18:16] <mafsi> Doonz: teamviewer in wine?
[18:16] <arvind_khadri> UbuntuCop, edit menu.lst present in /boot/grub/
[18:17] <Doonz> ok the problem is i dont have physical access to the pc so no keyboard or monitor
[18:17] <Doonz> i have to install everything through ssh
[18:17] <Jeruvy> Doonz: just use a vnc client and use it.  If your going from linux to windows you may want to use rdp instead of vnc.
[18:17] <mitc0185> Is there a comprehensive document on how to get pulseaudio working correctly in hardy? I was having intermittent sound issues, so I decided to apply a fix from ubuntuforums which seemed authoritative, now I have no sound at all. Pulseaudio sucks.
 UbuntuCop, edit menu.lst present in /boot/grub/ do you work that from the terminal?
[18:18] <UbuntuCop> nautilus maybe?
[18:18] <Doonz> Jeruvy: wich is all good except like i posted i dont have physical access to the box. i need to set up all this through ssh
[18:18] <grout> I have to say the jaunty beta is amazing
[18:18] <saerg> mitc0185: what sound hardware do you have?
[18:18] <marie_blubb> i'd like to use samba. how can I see another PC? in the konquerer just the server finds itself and at another pc it doesnt find the server?
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> UbuntuCop, press alt+f2 and then type gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:19] <clearscreen> Is there a way to re-run grub's autodetection of operating systems and kernels and write it to menu.lst? Basically whatever happens at ubuntu install, but after the install has been done
[18:19] <Lint> how can I delete a package? dpkg -r --force-all doesn;t work
[18:19] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: try typing this in konq
[18:19] <Ropechoborra> Lint, apt-get remove ?
[18:19] <mitc0185> saerg: one sec
[18:19] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: smb://internal ip address
[18:19] <clearscreen> Lint: if you've installed it through apt: sudo apt-get remove (package)
[18:19] <saerg> clearscreen: ubuntu's installer does that...
[18:20] <Lint> apt call dpkg
[18:20] <Lint> it;s of no help
[18:20] <Doonz> Hey guys i have a headless 8.10 server. WHat im trying to do is install a desktop on it so i can vnc from my xp box to that boxes desktop. can anyone point me to a guide that i can follow
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> Lint, its advised to use sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[18:20] <mitc0185> saerg: Intel ALC883 Analog
[18:20] <clearscreen> saerg: no shit, I was asking how to do it AFTER installation
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> !repeat | Doonz
[18:20] <Lint> apt-get remove iscan
[18:20] <mitc0185> saerg: Intel ALC883 Digital
[18:21] <Nasra> !iso
[18:21] <Doonz> !explaining better
[18:21] <kharloss> hi there. i have this MB :   http://forums.tweaktown.com/f19/intel-core-2-quad-q8200-biostar-tp45-hp-oc-review-27213/     but i can`t make it start. i have JATXPWR1 connector, but my PSU doesn`t have this connector. what can i do ?
[18:21] <Lint> so apt-get calls dpkg which reports error, so how can I remove a package?
[18:22] <Rytmis> Lint: well... you could try fixing the error dpkg is choking on?
[18:22] <LosFrijoles1> can anyone help with a gpg problem? none of the solutions on the forums have worked. http://pastebin.com/m6d17bb5d
[18:22] <saerg> mitc0185: it's not the known-broken list of devices at least
[18:22] <arvind_khadri> Lint, what error?
[18:22] <mitc0185> saerg: It was working 90% of the time. I was having periodic flash and skype issues, but otherwise it was fine
[18:23] <Zuko> alguem fala brasileiro ae
[18:23] <clearscreen> !br | Zuko
[18:23] <Lint> /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package name>.postrm: 50: Bad substitution
[18:23] <mitc0185> I left Skype on overnight and this morning no sound, so I said "I'm going to fix this"
[18:23] <jakeriver> anyone using easypeasy version of ubuntu?
[18:23] <Ienorand> I'm using an alias "get" for "sudo apt-get install", but how do I get tab-completion to work?
[18:23] <mitc0185> anyway the guide I followed (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578) did not fix it for me
[18:23] <mitc0185> now I have no sound at all
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> Lint, in place of package name you need to put the package's name, in this case its iscan
[18:23] <marie_blubb> sebsebseb smb://<IP_ADDRESS> (the router) it says in the konquerer not such protocol supported and in the bash something similar
[18:24] <mitc0185> pulseaudio seems to be working, when I look at the volume meter
[18:24] <saerg> mitc0185: flash 9.x's fault. Try 10.x or sfwdec. dunno about skype
[18:24] <mitc0185> but it's not getting sound out the device
[18:24] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, i've been able to boot, luckly, but it's not behaving right.
[18:24] <mitc0185> saerg: it's not working with rhythmbox or anything
[18:24] <sebsebseb> marie_blubb: ok it's been awhile since I did anything with Samba
[18:24] <sebsebseb> !samba
[18:24] <swiftarrow> how can I give you the logs?
[18:25] <mitc0185> and I have Flash 10.0 r22 installed
[18:25] <Lint> apparently I do it, if dpkg finds post-remove script. Some constructive propositions, please
[18:25] <LosFrijoles1> anyone know how to fix apt signing problems with intrepid? http://pastebin.com/m6d17bb5d
[18:25] <mitc0185> I'm going to go bug them in #pulseaudio
[18:25] <saerg> mitc0185: did you restart since then? something might block the sound. flash 9.x did that
[18:25] <mrwes> er
[18:26] <mitc0185> saerg: I have done a couple of restarts -- no luck
[18:26] <saerg> mitc0185: they can't do much about closed source apps like skype and flash
[18:26] <hbekel> Ienorand: you have to find the function that does the completion (/etc/bash_completion.d) and use it for "get" as well (using the complete builtin)
[18:26] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: that's not much to go on, I'm afraid.
[18:27] <mitc0185> saerg: understood, but I'm sure that once I have basic sound working then flash and skype will work too
[18:27] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, I can get you the logs, if you know what to do with them!  they're worse than greek to me.
[18:27] <Mehdi> oh awesome! I didn't know that chan existed
[18:27] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, more clues: the beeping starts BEFORE initrd is read, about half a second before
[18:27] <hbekel> Ienorand: there's probably a file called apt or apt-get in there, complete is usually called at the bottom of those scripts
[18:28] <yowshi> i need help dualbooting windows
[18:28] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, could it be a problem with the kernel or kernel modules?  if so, how to reinstall them?
[18:28] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: weirdness. Stick the logs in a pastebin, mayhaps they'll reveal something.
[18:28] <Rytmis> !paste
[18:28] <saerg> mitc0185: do eg. headphones work?
[18:28] <Lint> rewrote the damned script to return 0 always
[18:28] <arvind_khadri> !dualboot | yowshi
[18:29] <arvind_khadri> Lint, you shouldnt have done that
[18:29] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/142954/
[18:30] <allquixotic> Can anyone recommend a DDS (DirectDraw Surface) editor that runs on Ubuntu? These are often used as textures in games, I believe they are similar to Targa files, but Pixel Image Editor and The GIMP don't open them.
[18:31] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: problem is windows didnt overwrite grub might have something to do with how i installed it on a different hdd then ubuntu but i dont know
[18:31] <saerg> allquixotic: http://registry.gimp.org/node/70
[18:31] <Nasso> had anyone here ever gotten a nvidia 6600gt to work in ubuntu?
[18:31] <l337ingDisorder> Hey can anyone help with an FTP question? In a web browser I can load ftp://user:pass@host to have it connect without prompting for login info... I'd like to do the same with the command-line client, so I can just create a bash script to immediately drop me into a specific FTP account connection. Does anyone know how to do that on the command line?
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> yowshi, i cant understand what you mean
[18:31] <allquixotic> saerg: Thanks, I'll try building that
[18:32] <Nasso> i cant seem to get it working. gdm doesnt start up and in gdms logs i can read things like "no screens found" and "No devices selected". im using nvidias driver
[18:33] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: i installed windows to a third hard drive that i have ubuntu is on the second but after installing windows ubuntu is what booted. i am checking now to see if it is as simple as i forgot to make the windows partitinion a boot partition
[18:33] <hbekel> l337ingDisorder: ncftp supports ftp:// url like that
[18:33] <Lint> ok, back to my question. where I can get missing dependencies?
[18:34] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: sorry, I don't spot anything that looks obviously wrong to me. The trace at the end might be related, and then again, might not. :/
[18:34] <l337ingDisorder> hbekel: thanks I'll look into it
[18:34] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: mayhaps someone smarter will have an answer for you.
[18:34] <dual> Can someone explain what PUT/LIST Requests are, and how to count?
[18:34] <saerg> l337ingDisorder: man netrc
[18:34] <clearscreen> Lint: apt
[18:34] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: no it has the boot flag
[18:34] <arvind_khadri> yowshi, grub doesnt see boot flags
[18:34] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, ok. Thanks for going through it.  what do you think about re-installing the kernel and modules?
[18:35] <cemc> is there a nice applet for gnome which will show me the free space on mounted partitions?
[18:35] <l337ingDisorder> saerg: thanks, yeah I'm in the middle of researching netrc right now as a matter of fact :)
[18:35] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: hmmm well either way i cant get windows to boot
[18:35] <Lint> I've said it's *missing* dependency.  Sorry but gimpnet is under spambots attack and is closed
[18:35] <De-Mentor> dose anyone know why in apt-get update you would get some packages with Translation-en_US in the end that Fail to download?
[18:35] <ChrizC1> my panels have gone and they're not starting up by themselves, is there a terminal command to start the panels? (8.10 Intrepid)
[18:35] <arvind_khadri> yowshi, make a entry into menu.lst
[18:35] <jastonas> there is a way chrizc1
[18:35] <De-Mentor> sorry not packages i ment respetories
[18:35] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: thats what i did
[18:35] <ChrizC1> jastonas: which is?
[18:36] <jastonas> there is a way ive had the same problem
[18:36] <jastonas> have you tried google?
[18:36] <hbekel> l337ingDisorder: sorry, not quite, but it has commandline options for user/pwd
[18:36] <arvind_khadri> yowshi, after that install grub again
[18:36] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: ??? how do i do that?
[18:36] <yowshi> !!grub
[18:37] <yowshi> arvind_khadri: ok that doesnt really tell me how to reinstall greub
[18:37] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: you can always try that.
[18:37] <sendric> Hello to everybody, i have installed Ubuntu Desktop 8.10 on my laptop at home with ADSL internet connection. What i need to install and how to configure to be able to send email from my laptop via PHP:
[18:37] <sendric> <?php
[18:37] <sendric> $to =<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:37] <sendric> $subject = "Test mail";
[18:37] <sendric> $message = "Hello! This is a simple email message.";
[18:37] <FloodBot1> sendric: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <sendric> $from =<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:37] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: however, it's rather unlikely that the kernel would break.
[18:38] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: but something in the system configuration may have, so I'm not ruling it out entirely.
[18:38] <jastonas> now i have a difficult question. Any way to add a custom resolution?
[18:38] <jastonas> Cant find anything......
[18:38] <yowshi> ok ni think i found it brb i hope
[18:39] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, how do I do it? is it an easy synaptic thing?
[18:39] <saerg> jardi: i can get there...
[18:39] <De-Mentor> dose anyone know why in apt-get update you would get some repositories with Translation-en_US in the end that Fail to download?
[18:40] <zanberdo> I have a head-less server running ubuntu and I need a way to observe the output that is usually directed to tty1 during the boot.  I can ssh to the server, but I'm not sure what log file I can review that will show me the results of the last boot.  Any help?
[18:40] <sendric> hello people what i must to install and configure the ubuntu 8.10 to be able to send email's from my home laptop via php ???
[18:40] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: I don't remember synaptic, but if you know the package names, sudo apt-get install packagename --reinstall
[18:40] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, ok, thanks
[18:40] <De-Mentor> sendric: you need to install an smtp server
[18:40] <De-Mentor> sendric: like postfix or sendmail
[18:40] <swiftarrow> Hey, does anyone know the package name to re-install the kernel and drivers?
[18:41] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: for the kernel, linux-image-`uname -r`
[18:41] <clearscreen> De-Mentor: if you're from the netherlands, the dutch apt repo's have been struggling the past couple of weeks
[18:41] <jonathan__> hello! i'm trying to install libgpod to make gtkpod support my ipod nano 4g. i downloaded the trunk svn version and started the configure script autogen.sh. I installed all the dependencies that the script told me to install. Now the script ends with success, except the warning about cover artwork. It's an ptional dependency, but i would like to use artwork on my ipod. so i installed "libgdk-pixbuf" with success, like in the warning the
[18:41] <jonathan__> script gave me. But at the end of the script it still tells me that artwork support is disables. I tried to enable it with --enable-libgdk-pixbuf, but that didn't work to... :/ any ideas what I'm doing wrong? By the way: I'm using kubuntu... Thanks in advance... :)
[18:41] <Tokenekie> "/search" searches for text in man pages and highlights them, how do I unhighlight the text?
[18:41] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: the `uname -r` will expand to your running kernel version
[18:41] <De-Mentor> clearscreen: nope i'm from the US
[18:41] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: pay attention to the backticks. It's `, not ' or ´
[18:41] <clearscreen> De-Mentor: alright, then I wouldn't have a clue, you could try a different repository
[18:42] <yoshi> !grub
[18:42] <De-Mentor> clearscreen: I tried diffrent servers but its in the default ubuntu respository
[18:42] <Tokenekie> "/search" searches for text in man pages and highlights them, how do I unhighlight the text?
[18:42] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, thanks.  the ` is the one under the ~, right?  Also, does that install the kernel modules too?
[18:43] <eterna1> would sudo apt-get install java update to lastest java ?
[18:43] <jastonas> that thing about adding a custom resolution with nvidia cards? anyone knows if its doable?
[18:43] <hbekel> jonathan__: did you run ldconfig after installing libgdk-pixbuf?
[18:43] <jonathan__> hm i'm not sure what ldconfig is, but isn't it running automatically when using apt-get??
[18:43] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: um, on my keyboard it's the key just left from backspace. Press shift, that key and then space.
[18:44] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: then again, my keyboard has a Finnish layout, so your mileage may vary.
[18:44] <Lint> how can I reset 'sources.list' file to default?
[18:44] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, ok I think I know which one.   does that do the modules too, or is it a different command?
[18:44] <eterna1> .
[18:45] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: you may want linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` too
[18:45] <clearscreen> eterna1: yeah, but only the latest one in your currently configured repository
[18:45] <hbekel> jonathan__: don't know really. if ldconfig doesn't help, look at the config.log to find out if the test for gdk-pixbuf happens and where it fails exactely
[18:45] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: the non-restricted modules come in the kernel package, IIRC.
[18:45] <jonathan__> ok ldconf didn't help
[18:45] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, what's IIRC mean?
[18:46] <zilleplus> ubuntu server 8.10 and ubuntu desktop 8.1 on a LAN router with dhcp, thye desktop has internet but the server gives error on the dhcp server can someone help mee i can give more info on reactions
[18:46] <clearscreen> if I recall correctly
[18:46] <nathan7> If I Recall Correctly
[18:46] <Rytmis> IIRC IIRC is If I Recall Correctly ;-)
[18:46] <eterna1> Clearscreen i just updated everything then from update so it should be listed as the version 6?
[18:46] <jonathan__> Package gdk-pixbuf-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[18:46] <jonathan__> thats the error
[18:46] <clearscreen> eterna1: depends on what ubuntu release/repositories you are using
[18:47] <eterna1> 7.10 gutzy
[18:47] <Rytmis> jonathan__: you need libgdk-pixbuf-dev or somesuch.
[18:47]  * nathan7 chews on Rytmis
[18:47] <clearscreen> why would you even still be using 7.10 :P
[18:47] <eterna1> i am just installing tomcat and all the java installs with it
[18:47]  * Rytmis is chewy
[18:47] <eterna1> lol
[18:48] <eterna1> it has the update to 8.04 about to happen
[18:48]  * Rytmis is also moist and delicious, like cake
[18:48] <Soyo> <-- Has a blank blue screen for a desktop whether he uses gnome or XFwm... can move the mouse around, load firefox, or other programs with no problem, but there are no menus or anything...
[18:48] <hbekel> jonathan__: sorry, i shouldn't try to help people on ubuntu
[18:48] <hbekel> dev packages, pft
[18:49] <Soyo> !desktop
[18:49] <eterna1> lol soyo someone has the same problem before i think it was to resart the x server or so
[18:49] <Rytmis> pkg-config .pc files come in -dev packages.
[18:49] <hbekel> ok this is definitely not my distro
[18:49] <Soyo> !xfce
[18:49] <hbekel> bye
[18:49] <Tokenekie1> Hi, how do I unhighlight text in man pages after I have searched for a term within a page?
[18:49] <Guest28690> grrr how do i find the damnable partition i need to mount. cant remember which command lists drives
[18:50] <Nasso> when i installed the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu graphical restricted drivers tool, my xorg stopped working. gdm says no devices could be detected. can anyone help me with this?
[18:50] <vetus6oo> boa tarde pessoal, estou com problemas de instalaçao do snort alguem quer ajudar a configurar
[18:50] <jonathan__> thanks
[18:50] <Tokenekie> Guest28690: fdisk -l
[18:50] <jonathan__> that solved my problem i think
[18:50] <Tokenekie> Hi, how do I unhighlight text in man pages after I have searched for a term within a page?
[18:51] <Tokenekie> Hi, how do I unhighlight text in man pages after I have searched for a term within a page?
[18:53] <eterna1> lol
[18:53] <diop> ciao a tutti
[18:54] <swiftarrow> Rytmis, Ok, thanks so much for your help.  I have to sleep, but I will go through those commands, educate myself about them, and perhaps run them, tomorrow.  Thanks again
[18:54] <Rytmis> Tokenekie: esc-u seems to do the trick
[18:54] <saerg> Tokenekie: ESC-u
[18:54] <Rytmis> Tokenekie: assuming your pager is "less"
[18:54] <diop> c'è un che parla italiano qui?
[18:54] <Rytmis> swiftarrow: welcome *tips hat*
[18:54] <eterna1> !update
[18:55] <Yowshi2> ok so my find command in grub says stage1 is in (hd1,0) doesnt that mean i need to run setup (hd1)? and if so why does it keep saying invalid device request
[18:55] <Rytmis> !it | diop
[18:55] <diop> grazie
[18:55] <Griliath> Bonsoir tout le monde
[18:55] <Griliath> Buenos Noche
[18:55] <nathan7> Italian is quite much like French.
[18:55] <Tokenekie> Rytmis: saerg: That did the trick, thanks.
[18:55] <Rytmis> Ethethethethe pethethethethe Boutros Boutros Ghali
[18:55] <nathan7> !nl
[18:55] <Griliath> ok i m sorry
[18:55] <nathan7> Woot.
[18:55] <diop> je parle aussi le français
[18:56] <Griliath> diop tu parles francais
[18:56] <Rytmis> Javisst, och jag talar lite svensk.
[18:56]  * grawity lols at ubottu
[18:56] <diop> oui griliath
[18:56] <Soyo> !fr
[18:57] <diop> ok
[18:57] <eterna1> !cz
[18:57] <Griliath> ok tkx i go on ubuntu .fr See you
[18:57] <diop> ciao
[18:57] <Rytmis> !fi
[18:57] <D4T> hi all, every reboot I get "kicking non-fresh sdX from array!" then the md device re-syncs with its hot spare. anyone ever seen this before?
[18:57] <eterna1> !au
[18:58] <kyle__> does any one have a command that will display taskbar, not system monitor, program names
[18:58] <kyle__> any thoughts would be great
[18:59] <Soyo> <-- lost his taskbar months ago and still can't figure out how to get it back
[18:59] <jelly12gen> kyle__: conky?
[18:59] <Rytmis> Soyo: if you're using Gnome, you should be able to add a new panel, and then add the window navigator applet to that panel. :)
[19:01] <zamba> which is better (especially performance): cifs/nfs?
[19:01] <Soyo> Rytmis: I just installed XFce and I got a desktop with the XFce session option!
[19:01] <Rytmis> Soyo: I seem to recall that GDM has an option to boot to the default session of a desktop.
[19:01] <Rytmis> Soyo: in case your session options are borked.
[19:02] <Soyo> what does borked mean? f#%$ed?
[19:02] <eterna1> borked aka broken aka stuffed
[19:03] <Soyo> yeah somethings wrong with it, and reinstalling doesn't help
[19:03] <zanberdo> does anyone have experience with enabling boot logging?  I've read on the ubuntu forum that one merely needs to change /etc/default/bootlogd BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=yes, however when I do this I find I do not end up with a log at /var/log/boot as expected.  Anyone aware of any problems/fixes related to this?
[19:03] <grauss> hola uenas
[19:04] <Jimi_Neutral_> Hi Guys, i have just partitioned / home and swap and i have tried to install but when i click on the install icon on the desktop (im using live) nothing happens
[19:04] <grauss> alguien me puede echar una mano, tengo un problemita con una compact flash que no la puedo abrir
[19:04] <eterna1> !it
[19:05] <regeya> UM.
[19:05] <regeya> !ES
[19:05] <eterna1> um!
[19:05] <dual> I have scanned a paper, and I want to convert the text on it to text on my computer. Are there any good tools for this?
[19:05] <kyle__> here is the link for fixing the taskbar
[19:05] <Rytmis> !um
[19:05] <kyle__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=877358&highlight=bottom+pannel
[19:05] <eterna1> !find me
[19:05] <regeya> Um, um um um, um, um; um um um, um.
[19:05] <scunizi> Can anyone explain why a directory and recursive files have permissions of 766 and owned by me can't be seen or written to by a VM windows guest but can when the permissions are 777?
[19:05] <segin> !find freebasic
[19:06] <Lint> dual: abbyy finereader
[19:06] <segin> !info libfreebasic
[19:06] <dual> Lint: Thanks
[19:06] <segin> !files libfreebasic
[19:06] <Jimi_Neutral_> its ok, nevermind, it was on the other desktop lol
[19:06] <Jimi_Neutral_> bye yall
[19:06] <dual> Lint: Not free?
[19:06] <eterna1> !define freebasic
[19:07] <scunizi> eterna1: you can play with the bot in #ubuntu-bots
[19:07] <eterna1> thanx
[19:07] <Lint> dual: all quality OCR software is not free
[19:07] <dual> Lint: Ok :(
[19:07] <regeya> indeed.
[19:07] <Guest51686> thnks
[19:08] <regeya> gocr and ocrad does a good job with fantastic source material.  if it's not fantastic, forget it.
[19:08] <regeya> do a good job
[19:08] <regeya> rather
[19:08] <grauss> how i can open and see the files of a compact flash
[19:10] <thomasdelbeke> Hi there
[19:10] <scunizi> I have a shared directory that has permissions of 766 (or -rwxrw-rw-) that cannot be written to by another machine on the lan. However it does work when the permissions are 777 or -rwxrwxrwx.  What gives? I thought the x bit was to execution of a program..?
[19:10] <allquixotic> Does anyone know how I can render text that looks like this as a bitmap of some sort? (e.g. for use in games). http://tiyukquellmalz.org/login_s2.png   I'm not as interested in *the font* being used, so much as the fact that the middle parts of the letters are _not_ a solid color... I don't think FreeType can even do that. Any idea how that might be done besides hand editing?
[19:10] <eterna1> hi
[19:10] <thomasdelbeke> I want to change the debuggingprocedures wiki
[19:10] <scunizi> allquixotic: you can do that in gimp.. and maybe in inkscape.. save or export as png
[19:11] <Lint> scunizi, x bit for directories allows browsing
[19:11] <Jimi_Neutral> hey bit confused with this install, im not sure what to press....im at the prepare partitons screen
[19:11] <grauss> some chat in spanish, i don't speak english
[19:11] <zhurai> <Jimi_Neutral> hey bit confused with this install, im not sure what to press....im at the prepare partitons screen  <-- do you still want your old partitions?
[19:11] <allquixotic> scunizi: I tried rendering fonts of all sorts in GIMP, but it won't come out the same because the inner parts of the letters are always just solid colors
[19:11] <arvind_khadri> scunizi, x bit is for execution
[19:11] <Lint> Jimi_Neutral, and waht exactly you want to achieve
[19:11] <yowshi> grrr i cant get it to boot no matter which numbers i put in (hdx,x) i wouldnt even have to try fi i could have gotten wine fixed
[19:11] <scunizi> Lint: ok.. I'll go with that.. but at the original permission level it won't even let me write.. I don't understand that.
[19:12] <thomasdelbeke> At this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures; this link: Kernel Team bug policies should be replaced with: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[19:12] <scunizi> arvind_khadri: I mentioned that ..
[19:12] <thomasdelbeke> Anyone can help?
[19:12] <Jeruvy> scunizi: are you sure it's not a chown problem..?
[19:12] <anr78> anyone running Ubuntu on the latest MacBook Pro?
[19:12] <thomasdelbeke> The first link is dead.
[19:12] <Jimi_Neutral> Lint: Well i have the root home and swap partitions already set up, i just ant to install now...its dual boot cause im migrating from xp to linux for the firs time
[19:13] <scunizi> Jeruvy: the directory was originally created by the windows guest and had ownership of none:none which is not a user on my system. so I chown'd it to myuser:myuser
[19:13] <Jimi_Neutral> zhurai: yes i want all th partitons as they are, i hav already set them all up
[19:13] <trent> Question:  I recently updated my ubuntu partition via the update manager, I am using grub as my boot manager.  During the install I did not get any warnings about any changes to the boot manager, when I boot up and try to go into m windows vista partition (hd0,1) it gives the following message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/142977/  How do I go about fixing this?
[19:13] <Jeruvy> scunizi: your not using a ntfs filesystem are you?
[19:14] <coreyman> I want windows users to be able to write to my samba shares, what do i need to do
[19:14] <scunizi> Jeruvy: shouldn't make a difference.. the shared directory is on the ubuntu box with ext3
[19:14] <scunizi> Jeruvy: the guest is Win2kPro VM in Virtualbox and is NTFS
[19:14] <bach> Hey, wonder if someone can help answer a question i have ? it is regarding the possibility of setting up a virtual enviroment in linux pointing to my windows particion ?
[19:15] <Jeruvy> scunizi: shouldn't I agree with, but ACL's don't migrate very well and I've seen bizarre permission issues.  But I think if its ext3 then you should be ok.  Just thought I'd check if that might be a culprit, doesn't sound like it tho, sorry.
[19:15] <thomasdelbeke> Ok, someone plz replace the dead link on the debugging wiki page, as I do not know howto.
[19:15] <thomasdelbeke> At this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures; this link: Kernel Team bug policies should be replaced with: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[19:15] <thomasdelbeke> The first link is dead.
[19:15] <scunizi> bach: if you want to run your windows as a virtual machine you have to install a VM first then install windows into the VM.. otherwise if you're just looking to access the file structure of the windows side that should be an issue.. but it's not a virtual environment at that ponit
[19:16] <thomasdelbeke> Going down for reboot now, cheers, Thomas.
[19:16] <scunizi> Jeruvy: thanks..
[19:16] <Jimi_Neutral> i click next but it says no root is defined but i did all the partitions earlier
[19:16] <knut> what is the best kind of file compression format to use with working in a network of windows pcs? .zip, .tar.gz or gz. ...?
[19:16] <regeya> .zip generally
[19:17] <trent> .zip or .rar
[19:17] <kyle__> .zip
[19:17] <trent> .rar is better compression
[19:17] <bach> scunizi: thanks for the reply, i wanted to have access to use/run apps (mainly games) under my windows partition with out rebooting my PC to log back into Windows each time.
[19:17] <trent> Jimi_Neutral: You can also try .7z
[19:17] <trent> Question:  I recently updated my ubuntu partition via the update manager, I am using grub as my boot manager.  During the install I did not get any warnings about any changes to the boot manager, when I boot up and try to go into m windows vista partition (hd0,1) it gives the following message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/142977/  How do I go about fixing this?
[19:17] <knut> ok thx
[19:17] <knut> :P
[19:17] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: if you did the partitions earlier you may not have tagged the partitions for what they were intended.  "/' = root ... /swap = swap.. /home = home
[19:18] <coreyman> I want windows users to be able to write to my samba shares, what do i need to do
[19:18] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: well i labelled then and followed someones advice...hey by the way :) im not sure what to do now....im on a bit that has boxes next to the partitions saying format? and im a bit confuzze dlol
[19:18] <MrElendig> coreyman: give them write permission in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:19] <scunizi> bach: that's not dooable. you can't run what's on that dual boot side from inside ubuntu or any linux for that matter.  If the games are able to be installed and run from inside ubuntu you will most likely have to do that with Wine or Cedega.. check Winehq.org for compatability of the games with linux.
[19:19] <coreyman> MrElendig that is my question more specifically, how do i give them permission let me show you the line i have written.
[19:19] <fbn> hi, how can I mount linux raid autodetect filesystem on ubuntu?
[19:19] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: are you in the ubuntu installer doing the manual partitioning portion?
[19:20] <MrElendig> coreyman: there are about 20 ways to do it, depending on what level and scheme of security you want
[19:20] <coreyman>       [LINUXSHARE]
[19:20] <coreyman>         comment = Some files
[19:20] <coreyman>         path = /mnt/windows
[19:20] <coreyman>         browseable = yes
[19:20] <coreyman>         read only = no
[19:20] <FloodBot1> coreyman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <Ludo> can somebody please reset their ubuntu forum password and tell me if it works? http://ubuntuforums.org/login.php?do=lostpw
[19:20] <trent> Coreyman use pastebin
[19:20] <MrElendig> coreyman: not that you also have to give the user write permission on the share itself
[19:20] <trent> Do not flood the channel
[19:20] <coreyman> thx minimod trent
[19:21] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: Earlier on i insterted the live CD and ran gparted (is that what its called) anyway i di all the partitions but didnt have time to install so i have now come home turned it all on again to run from the live cd and just double clicked the install icon on the desktop...im now on step 4 of 7 and it iasking me to prepare partitions
[19:21] <trent> Can anyone answer this? Question:  I recently updated my ubuntu partition via the update manager, I am using grub as my boot manager.  During the install I did not get any warnings about any changes to the boot manager, when I boot up and try to go into m windows vista partition (hd0,1) it gives the following message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/142977/  How do I go about fixing this?
[19:22] <MrElendig> trent: try fixmbr and then reinstall grub to mbr
[19:22] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. does it have the option of doing the partitions manually?
[19:23] <coreyman> MrElendig get my private message?
[19:23] <MrElendig> I don't do support in /queryt
[19:23] <MrElendig> /query*
[19:23] <coreyman> ....
[19:23] <coreyman> here is my samba conf
[19:23] <coreyman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/142989/
[19:23] <MrElendig> it's counter-productive
[19:23] <coreyman> everything looks right to me
[19:23] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: yes that was step 3...it says u want to use the whole disk (will wipe xp) or set up manually so i chose manually and now im on step 4
[19:24] <MrElendig> coreyman: check the permission on the share itself
[19:24] <coreyman> MrElendig good thinking
[19:24] <MrElendig> you probably want 766 on it
[19:24] <Nasso> i get a "Saw signal 11. Server aborting." error in my Xorg.0.log when trying to start up x after installing the nvidia restricted drivers on my new install of ubuntu. does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:24] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: sorry make that step 4 and 5 respectivley
[19:24] <trent> MrElendig: Do I just run fixmbr with terminal or are you talking about using windows vista recovery disk?
[19:24] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. it's been a while.. how many partitons did you previously create for the install?
[19:24] <coreyman> MrElendig I'll do 777 for the sake of testing
[19:24] <MrElendig> trent: windows cd
[19:24] <trent> ok thanks
[19:25] <MrElendig> you will have to reinstall grub after you do it, since it will overwrite it
[19:25] <MrElendig> make sure you install grub to mbr
[19:25] <shumpi> Hello, I am trying to make my usb -microphone work in Audacity, have been surfing forums for a while now, but no luck...
[19:25] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: i have one for xp which i shrunk and then with what was left i did three partitions / home and swap
[19:25] <MrElendig> and not to the vista partion
[19:25] <shumpi> So, if someone could help Id be really thankful
[19:25] <trent> MrElendig, when I run fixmbr via windows recovery console it will get rid of grub and automatically boot into windows?  then from windows I will need to restore grub?
[19:26] <MrElendig> trent: after doing the fixmbr, try to boot windows once, if it boots, then boot the ubuntu install cd, chroot to your ubuntu install, and reinstall grub to mbr
[19:26] <trent> ok thanks
[19:27] <UbuntuCop> how do i go with making my scanner work in Xsane
[19:27] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. hang on I"m trying to google a page with pics of the install process .. if you know which partition is which (by size), the installer I'm use to makes you go through each partition one at a time.  Pick the first tagg it to format and then tag it for the right "label" ie root swap home
[19:28] <J_A_X> so, I'm trying to get flash to have sound, but there isn't a freaking firefoxrc file anyone
[19:28] <J_A_X> anywhere*
[19:28] <J_A_X> anyone can help>?
[19:28] <pw-toxic> hi
[19:28] <trent> MrElendig:  Any resources on chroot, i do not know how to do that
[19:28] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: forget the h
[19:29] <MrElendig> trent: there probabl is a page on the ubuntu wiki
[19:29] <beware> can i boot an ubuntu desktop cd into non-gui mode?
[19:29] <trent> ok thanks
[19:29] <MrElendig> about reinstalling grub
[19:29] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: forget the "Hang on " portion. I can't find a page.. did what I said make sense?
[19:29] <MrElendig> Jimi_Neutral: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=ubuntu+install&aq=f
[19:29] <pw-toxic> i'm looking for a good dictionary from german to english - offline
[19:29] <pw-toxic> any suggestions?
[19:29] <randum_user> I think Google can help you, pw-toxic.
[19:30] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: stardict?
[19:30] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: AH HA! found one.. you're in the "Prepare partitions" page right?
[19:30] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: or ding
[19:30] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: no idea about how good ding is tho
[19:30] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: yes and it is not leting me go forward cause "no root is defined"
[19:31] <pw-toxic> MrElendig: that's why im asking for ;)  asking for some expierences with such programs ;)
[19:31] <flippo> Does ubuntu "uname" return "linux64" for 64-bit, or just "linux"?
[19:31] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: No root file system is defined.
[19:31] <Jimi_Neutral> Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[19:31] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: pro tip: just try them(tm) and find out which you like the most
[19:31] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. highlight the partitions that is suppose to be root and then in the bottom of the window click the "Edit Partition" button
[19:32] <MrElendig> flippo: it should return Linux
[19:32] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: done
[19:32] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: in there you should be able to definie the "Mount point"
[19:32] <flippo> MrElendig, thanks.
[19:32] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: the mount point should be / or root
[19:32] <flippo> Any other way to detect whether I'm looking at a 64-bit machine?
[19:32] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ah yes i saw them earlier but i didnt know what it was so i didnt touch it, if it has said 'root' i would have chosen that lol
[19:32] <MrElendig> flippo: umane with no arguments == uname -s == kernel name
[19:32] <MrElendig> flippo: so when you are on GNU/Linux, that would be 'Linux'
[19:33] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: do that for each partition and define what it should be
[19:33] <MrElendig> flippo: uname -m
[19:33] <Quetschman> moin
[19:33] <flippo> MrElendig, i686 doesn't sound much like 64-bit.
[19:33] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: mount point is greyed out until i choose 'Use As'
[19:33] <MrElendig> flippo: of if you want the hardware, /proc/cpuinfo
[19:33] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: that's fine
[19:33] <MrElendig> flippo: uname -m is what the software is, not what the hardware is
[19:33] <coreyman> MrElendig the permissions on the folder itself was the problem
[19:34] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: "Use As" and then define it .. right?
[19:34] <flippo> MrElendig, yes, not seeing it there either.  I must have a brand-new 32-bit machine.
[19:34] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: hehe what do i choose? under 'use as'  there are loads of options...im gussing ext3
[19:34] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: yes.. that is the defacto standard at this point..
[19:34] <abstrakt> should i go with 8.04, 8.10 or 9.04 for my Dell Vostro 1500 laptop?
[19:34] <MrElendig> flippo: pastebin the output of `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[19:34] <pw-toxic> MrElendig: i think stardict is not for offline use
[19:34] <abstrakt> i just need/want a developer workstation with LAMP
[19:35] <abstrakt> right now i'm using windows, and XDebug seems to crash apache *hardcore*
[19:35] <abstrakt> i'm hoping that maybe this won't be such a problem on *nix
[19:35] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok just to let you know Use As is a seperate choice to mount point...the mount point options are greyed out i have to choose a 'Use As' option first
[19:35] <MrElendig> pw-toxic: you can download the dictionart file to your machine and use it offline
[19:35] <MrElendig> abstrakt: 9.04
[19:35] <UbuntuCop> !offtopic
[19:35] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: gotcha.. I typically install with the alternate cd and it doesn't have a gui on install so I'm not use to the pretty pictures.
[19:36] <lakeoftea> OMG I CANT WAIT FOR 9,04 !
[19:36] <scunizi> lakeoftea: so don't.. install now
[19:36] <MrElendig> lots of improvements in .29
[19:36] <abstrakt> MrElendig, isn't 9.04 still "beta" or whatever?
[19:36] <lakeoftea> but i dont want the beta lol
[19:36] <Jimi_Neutral> yes it is and im using it right now lol
[19:36] <abstrakt> Jimi_Neutral, laptop?
[19:36] <flippo> MrElendig, thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/142998/
[19:36] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok bud i see it now, dont go no where tho lol
[19:36] <kilj> Anyone here experienced with ATI x1900 raedon cards overheating in Intrepid?
[19:36] <sebsebseb> lakeoftea: nothing that amazing  with 9.04  except optional Ext4 suppourt
[19:36] <scunizi> lakeoftea: just keep updating and by the release date it will be the release version
[19:36] <Jimi_Neutral> abstrakt: yeah laptop
[19:37] <vetus6oo> i ppl
[19:37] <MrElendig> flippo: you can run x86_64 on that cpu
[19:37] <sebsebseb> lakeoftea: well clean install for proper Ext4 suppourt
[19:37] <abstrakt> Jimi_Neutral, what specific make/model ?
[19:37] <vetus6oo> i have some problems to install snort with mysql
[19:37] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I'll be here.  Unless my son turns off my laptop again.. I'm remoting into it with my desktop and using IRC via ssh on irssi.. if that makes ANY sense to you at this point in your linux adventure. :)
[19:37] <abstrakt> and should i go with 64 bit? or is it still the case that the nvidia drivers and flash are only 32 bit?
[19:37] <vetus6oo> can you helpe..
[19:38] <flippo> MrElendig, dandy.   Is that a matter of installing and selecting a different kernel for booting?
[19:38] <abstrakt> scunizi, makes perfect sense to me :P
[19:38] <scunizi> abstrakt: :)
[19:38] <abstrakt> scunizi, would make better sense if it was in a borderless transparent aterm :)
[19:38] <flippo> MrElendig, strangely, this is what Dell installed for me.
[19:38] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: Flash is also 64bit
[19:38] <Jimi_Neutral> abstrakt: a cheap novatech one that has no model as such....it just says novatech on the top and its a m541n
[19:38] <MrElendig> flippo: that's just dell
[19:38] <scunizi> abstrakt: well I have too much stuff going on , on my desktop and my eyes hate that type of thing.. older eyes.. :)
[19:38] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, so they've got 64 bit flash available for *nix ?
[19:39] <cfed8> hi
[19:39] <Ven]n> when I updated the kernel in Ubuntu to 2.6.27-11 from -7, most icons were replaced with different icons and nautilus got a blue frame instead of the normal brown. a reboot fixed it. but what happened?
[19:39] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, and 64 bit nvidia drivers?
[19:39] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: lol show off
[19:39] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: yeah and that's been ages
[19:39] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: for Flash and I think nivida have drivers to
[19:39] <flippo> MrElendig, does this require a new install?
[19:39] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, remember that this is a laptop...
[19:39] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: Naw!.. it's just fun stuff :)
[19:39] <vetus6oo> snort not configure mysql . can help
[19:39] <MrElendig> flippo: only if you want to use 64bit
[19:39] <abstrakt> at least on windows, you have to get special Dell display drivers
[19:39] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: try the 64bit Live CD?  altough with 9.04 in a few weeks.  it's  a bit pointless putting 8.10 on now
[19:39] <abstrakt> you can't use the nVidia ones
[19:40] <beware> is it deliberately impossible to boot an ubuntu cd without desktop?
[19:40] <flippo> MrElendig, thanks
[19:40] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok im stuck on swap....what do i use for tht or does tht not have a mount point?
[19:40] <kilj> Anyone here able to assist with an ATI card overheating in Intrepid?
[19:40] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: plus for the optional  file system Ext4,  you would have to clean install for proper suppourt
[19:40] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, i'm just still very wary of moving to 64 bit... last time i tried there were just way too many problems
[19:40] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: actually .. to clarify.. I'm remoting into my laptop with ssh and using screen with irssi.. swap is /swap and for file type you simply choose swap
[19:40] <sebsebseb> abstrakt:  works fine for most people
[19:40] <abstrakt> sebsebseb, i don't particularly care about Ext4... i mean... should i?
[19:41] <MrElendig> abstrakt: I run x86_64 on 7 different boxes, with no problems at all
[19:41] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: well it will be much better than Ext3
[19:41] <abstrakt> like... how much better?
[19:41] <abstrakt> performance improvements?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: a lot
[19:41] <abstrakt> hmm
[19:41] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: yep  much faster, etc
[19:41] <abstrakt> so i should probably just wait 2 weeks and get 9.04 when it's officially released
[19:41] <lakeoftea> sebsebseb whats a ppa
[19:41] <ska_> Anyone know if Att wireless broadband cards are easy to configure?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: there was/is  some dataloss issue with development versions of  9.04 though.   so  I am waiting for good reviews before I get rid of this set up, which is the beta on Ext3
[19:42] <MrElendig> abstrakt: if you encode ogg, then you can expect 40-60% better performance on 64bit :p
[19:42] <abstrakt> ska_, i doubt honestly that *any* cell card is easy to configure on *nix
[19:42] <abstrakt> but i would like to know the same thing too...
[19:42] <sebsebseb> abstrakt: waiting for final  and  good Ext4 reviews, before I clean install
[19:42] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok i chose 'swap area' as 'use as' but 'mount point' is gryed out...wont give me the option to use anything is tht right?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> !ppa |  lakeoftea
[19:42] <abstrakt> the main critical app for me on windows is my Verizon wireless card
[19:42] <MrElendig> sebsebseb: disable writeahead, and ext4 becomes much safer when it comes to data loss from unclean shutdowns
[19:42] <Flannel> Jimi_Neutral: swap doesn't get mounted anywhere, it just gets used, so that's nothing to worry about.
[19:42] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: it already knows because of the file system type.. not to worry
[19:42] <Jimi_Neutral> nice
[19:42] <prjktdtnt> In firefox does anyone know how to make it remember it's last size and position when opening it again and if so can you point me to a tutorial
[19:43] <sebsebseb> MrElendig: well well  not sure what you mean quite, and I expect 9.04 final will have  that kind of thing sorted out?
[19:43] <MrElendig> I asume it will use the default ext4 settings
[19:43] <scunizi> sebsebseb: maybe by 9.04.1
[19:43] <sebsebseb> lakeoftea: Ubuntu only does security updates, if you want later programs,  ppa
[19:43] <kaigeos> anyone here using gnome-xchat?
[19:43] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: The file system on /dev/sda3 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting.  Directories containing system files (/etc, /lib, /usr, /var, ...) that already exist under any defined mountpoint will be deleted during the install.
[19:43] <Jimi_Neutral> Please ensure that you have backed up any critical data before installing.
[19:43] <scunizi> kaigeos: avoid it and install xchat
[19:44] <kaigeos> kk. I'll do that.
[19:44] <zilleplus> how do i change my netmask on ubuntu server 8.1 ???????????????????????????????????????,
[19:44] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: go ahead.. It's going to format
[19:44] <sebsebseb> scunizi: hummmmmm  I am hoping  9.04  can do a Ext4 that is all good, and then can be upgraded untill the computer dies, or Ext5
[19:44] <kaigeos> something wronge with the gnome version?
[19:44] <MrElendig> kaigeos: irssi/weechat is even better
[19:44] <ska_> IS wifi different from wireless cell?
[19:44] <scunizi> sebsebseb: it might.. I'
[19:44] <sebsebseb> scunizi: I mean the Ubuntu partition that is installed on that partition
[19:44] <kaigeos> oh? i'll check them both out.
[19:44] <scunizi> sebsebseb: I'll wait until 9.04.1 to upgrade. but I'll play with 9.04 in a vm
[19:44] <MrElendig> sebsebseb: you can change the ext4 options yourself, so it's a moot point
[19:44] <zilleplus>  how do i change my netmask on ubuntu server 8.1 ???????????????????????????????????????
[19:45] <kaigeos> I'm using Intrepid should both be available with apt-get? MrElendig?
[19:45] <kilj_> Hmm.  I am having issues with my ATI x1900 card overheating when I installed updated Ubuntu to Intrepid.  If anyone has a second to assist me perhaps?
[19:45] <MrElendig> sebsebseb: http://www.h-online.com/open/Kernel-developers-squabble-over-Ext3-and-Ext4--/news/112937
[19:45] <sebsebseb> MrElendig: well  when the time is right with Ext4 and 9.04  I will clean install, that's the plan
[19:45] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: do i want to import my user accounts from my xp install?
[19:46] <zilleplus>  how do i change my netmask on ubuntu server 8.1 ???????????????????????????????????????
[19:46] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: ok.. if you want.. which accounts? email?
[19:46] <Flannel> !repeat | zilleplus
[19:46] <Jimi_Neutral> easy on the ?
[19:46] <kaigeos> kilj I just setup with using ATI x1200 I was running fine once I got the latest driver from ati.amd.com  and took out compiz
[19:46] <OscarTgrouch> how do i show all running processes from the command line?
[19:46] <MrElendig> zilleplus: man ifconfig
[19:46] <kaigeos> ps -x
[19:46] <Ranakah> OscarTgrouch
[19:46] <Ranakah> ps aux
[19:46] <OscarTgrouch> thanks
[19:47] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: it just says do u waana import the accounts 'administrator' and 'jimi' my user accounts
[19:47] <kilj_> I am using the proprietary ones that come with Intrepid.  Should I take compiz out?
[19:47] <scunizi> OscarTgrouch: YOu can also use top or install htop (better)
[19:47] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: says docs from there will be available after install......from linux??
[19:47] <eterna1> i been sitting here searching for java6 and it was in restricted packages :/ they love hiding things on you
[19:47] <Jatz> Hey, is there any way to have ubuntu not lock the screen when I put it to sleep? so I can open my laptop up and not have to re-enter the password each timre
[19:48] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: say yes.. what's the worst that can happen.. it won't mess with your windows install
[19:48] <sebsebseb> MrElendig: I don't understand about this stuff enough, so what are you or the article trying to say?
[19:48] <the10nitro> is there a tool to convert encodings and Unix/MS-DOS returns?
[19:49] <MrElendig> sebsebseb: the article explains why some people are experinecing data loss on ext4, and what you can do to avoid it
[19:49] <Veratyr9> Anybody here running 9.04? I dont know if i can wait any longer to try it, considering moving over now.  Is it stable enough to not make you rip your hair out?
[19:49] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ohh its just a migration of my docs folder...i thought it meant i could access it from my linux install...i dont use the my docs folder lol
[19:49] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: whatever it migrates you can always delete.. :)
[19:49] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: no point doing it now, unless your going to clean install and do Ext4
[19:49] <Lint> how can I scan something without root permissions?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: ,but not much point in that even
[19:50] <Veratyr9> sebsebseb: ext4? didnt know that was part of the deal, sweet.  guess i'll wait then
[19:50] <Lint> the10nitro, iconv
[19:50] <serenity> Mythbuntu is ubuntu setup for a system with a TV card right?
[19:50] <BlackCoffee> is there a way that i can create my own ubuntu cd?like for example with all my current installed apps,drivers and so forth?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: minor changes, and newer packages such as KDE 4.2
[19:50] <scunizi> serenity: yes
[19:50] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: yeah, but that's not properly stable yet etc
[19:50] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: Ext4, just wait. only a few weeksn ow
[19:51] <scunizi> BlackCoffee: you won't have enough room on the cd.. there is a way to create an easy install of your apps after a fresh install of ubuntu.
[19:51] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: and make sure the file system is stable enough before putting it on
[19:51] <Veratyr9> sebsebseb: hope 4.2 is better than 4 was.  damn i was looking forward to trying out a new toy, but not willing to do a drive wipe yet
[19:51] <Veratyr9> sebsebseb: yea that makes sense
[19:51] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: ok there it goes :)
[19:52] <soweto> I dont think its a good idea for your dad to know mpume's salary -- I agreee - it can raise expectations -indeed
[19:52] <Doonz> Can someone point me to a tutorial that will show me howto enable remote desktop access through the terminal
[19:52] <sebsebseb> Veratyr9: http://www.h-online.com/open/Kernel-developers-squabble-over-Ext3-and-Ext4--/news/112937
[19:52] <soweto> Doonz; run vncserver
[19:52] <kilj_> So do you think Compiz is causing my ati card to constantly overheat?  Every 10 minutes my pc shuts down from the card going over 80 celsius.
[19:52] <soweto> Doonz; run vncserver :2  --> this will open session 2 on port 5902
[19:52] <Jimi_Neutral> ouch
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !vnc | Doonz
[19:52] <BlackCoffee> 80 celsius!
[19:53] <Veratyr9> sebsebseb: good article, thx reading now
[19:53] <soweto> Doonz; unless of course you want to connect to Windows machines
[19:53] <kilj_> When I used Hardy it did not have this problem.
[19:53] <Doonz> Thanx guys this assumes i DO NOT have access to the current desktop
[19:53] <BlackCoffee> i had a similar problem,installed a vent for the graphics card and voila,problem solved
[19:53] <Jimi_Neutral> i only work in degree centigrade
[19:53] <sebsebseb> soweto: better way to do WIndows machines :d
[19:53] <sebsebseb> soweto: then that
[19:53] <sebsebseb> soweto: no need to do putty on Windows anymore :)
[19:54] <sebsebseb> soweto: for VNC
[19:54] <soweto> sebsebseb; say again
[19:54] <dnul> cant install JJ from pendrive
[19:54] <kilj_> Well i was not having these heating issues when I was using Hardy.  It just started happening when I did a new install up to Intrepid.  Could anything on the software end assist in lowering the temperature minus removing Compiz?
[19:54] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: still grinding away?
[19:54] <dnul> need help
[19:54] <eterna1> .
[19:54] <soweto> sebsebseb; i used rdesktop to reach Windows machines
[19:54] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: 60%
[19:54] <sebsebseb> soweto: just use one of those sites that  provide a java applet for vnc,  to connect to Windows
[19:54] <soweto> sebsebseb; it works for me,, tell me this new application you know..
[19:55] <kilj_> I do not use the Xorg drivers as I enjoy use of 3d capibilities.
[19:55] <soweto> sebsebseb; wont the Java kill my CPU
[19:55] <sebsebseb> soweto: no need to  use putty on WIndows to use ssh anymore, for VNC.  http://www.showmypc.com or more specifically  http://www.showmypc.com/mac  java won't kill anything, but  uac in vista will kill that one
[19:55] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: and just think.. when your done you won't have to install motherboard drivers, do 3 hrs of updates etc.. you will have to do updates and there will be several hundred probably but it doesn them in one shot
[19:55] <soweto> sebsebseb; I know that using COMPIZ is out of the question for me when I use rdesktop -- even firefox behaves badly and any other scrolling application
[19:55] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: and the updates won't take that long.. :)
[19:56] <chuckh1958> Is there a way to search for new packages added to the repositories after a certain date, or since the previous synaptic refresh?
[19:56] <kilj_> I will reboot the pc since I just removed compiz.  Do I have to goto all the programs that was associated with compiz or just remove its core?
[19:56] <Doonz> ok thanx for the tutorial. now is there one that doesnt assume you have access to the desktop
[19:56] <bitwiser> sebsebseb: you answer a lot of stuff here ... impressive
[19:56] <Jimi_Neutral> sunizi: ok to talk in private?
[19:56] <scunizi> kilj_: you don't have to reboot the pc.. just ctrl+alt+F2 and log in then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:56] <sebsebseb> bitwiser: sure, but basic stuff mainly
[19:56] <kilj_> Ok.  Thank you.
[19:56] <dnul> how can i install JJ beta from pendrive?
[19:57] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: I'm there..
[19:57] <sebsebseb> !usb |  dnul
[19:57] <sebsebseb> dnul: jj beta?????
[19:58] <serenity> sebsebseb, jaunty
[19:58] <Ienorand> dnul: If you're on windows, use unetbootin.
[19:58] <sebsebseb> serenity: don't bother.
[19:58] <ari> how do i automatically load a kernel module on boot, rather than having to do sudo modprobe module ?
[19:58] <dnul> will try
[19:58] <dnul> thank
[19:58] <sebsebseb> serenity: wait for final and Ext4 to be stable   then put it on a hard disk :)
[19:59] <serenity> sebsebseb, don't bother? I was only explaining what JJ means. Also, he wants to install it from a USB stick, not to.
[19:59] <anarkiabmx> hey somebody speak spanish?
[19:59] <serenity> !es | anarkiabmx
[19:59] <vigo> !es
[19:59] <Nico`> Hi =)
[19:59] <Nico`> !es
[19:59] <sebsebseb> serenity: maybe I missed something
[19:59] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: hey
[19:59] <vigo> whoops
[19:59] <^paradox^> im in need of some 1 on 1 help syncing my palm z22. keep getting error messages. anyone can assist?
[19:59] <scunizi> Jimi_Neutral: actually yellow here.
[19:59] <Jimi_Neutral> scunizi: nice
[20:00] <Nico`> i have a probleme with my ubuntu server 8.10... can you help me?
[20:00] <serenity> sebsebseb, from the article link posted earlier i'll probably stay far away from ext4 for anything i want to keep safe.
[20:01] <sebsebseb> serenity: heh yeah,  well  loads of people say it works well for them
[20:01] <Nico`> pff
[20:01] <sebsebseb> serenity: ,but I don't know.   I think best to wait before getting rid of Ext3 to be replaced by Ext4
[20:01] <rhythmsou1> hi folks, I have a nasty problem when I try to play AVI files: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7001455#post7001455
[20:01] <serenity> sebsebseb, as long as the system it is used on doesn't crash, i'm sure it works fine. But if the system crashes while data was on its way to the disc, you're in big troubles.
[20:02] <sebsebseb> serenity: and in that case I would recomend most people stay with 8.10, because jaunty isn't really worth it, espesailly when can get ppa's or whatever for  most of the later stuff anyway
[20:02] <serenity> rhythmsou1, please say in here what your problem was rather then posting a link. Many will not click links unless they are of interest to us.
[20:02] <Picassotamus> serentiy: I think I'm with you on that one
[20:02] <redrebel> i'm running out of disk space.... what are some things I can get of to free up some space?
[20:02] <zilleplus> ubuntu server 8.10 can't get internet on it its on a simple route tryed things for 4 weeks
[20:02] <zilleplus> can someone help
[20:02] <rhythmsou1> serenity: sorry, basically the whole desktop locks up when i play an AVI file
[20:02] <gabriel> hi everybody, i'm new with ubuntu 7.04 and i'm havong some problems installing openoffice
[20:02] <gabriel> can anyone help e with this?
[20:02] <serenity> sebsebseb, i actually like jaunty better then 8.10 atm. It seems to run much smoother on my laptop. Anyway, that's personal opinions. Care to discuss this onwards in offtopic?
[20:02] <zilleplus> ubuntu server 8.10 can't get internet on it its on a simple route tryed things for 4 weeks
[20:02] <zilleplus> <-- pneves is vertrokken
[20:03] <^paradox^> can someone just pm me and give me a quick hand with this? need help syncing my palm z22. dont know settings to tick
[20:03] <sebsebseb> gabriel: 7.04 is not supopurted anymore, as  far as I now, you should upgrade to at least 8.04
[20:03] <zilleplus> ubuntu server 8.10 can't get internet on it its on a simple route tryed things for 4 weeks pneves is vertrokken
[20:03] <gabriel> thanks!!
[20:03] <gabriel> but...how do i do that?
[20:03] <serenity> rhythmsou1, i'm not an expert on video settings. You'll have much better luck asking the channel. I tried to point you out how to get a better support reaction from people around here.
[20:03] <gabriel> i need to download it and install all over again?
[20:03] <Flannel> !upgrade | gabriel
[20:04] <sebsebseb> serenity:  juanty with Ext3?   and nah file system talks get boring,  I done it I don't know how many times the last 2 or so weeks
[20:04] <gabriel> thanks everyone!
[20:04] <Flannel> serenity, sebsebseb: mind taking the Jaunty/misc discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic? thanks
[20:04] <wo0f1> zxczxc
[20:04] <vigo> zilleplus: Check the MD5 and sums, it maybe a bad image
[20:04] <serenity> Flannel, i just asked him the same question. Was dropping the topic.
[20:04] <sebsebseb> Flannel: indeed and that's what he was asking me as well
[20:04] <rhythmsou1> serenity: which channel would you recommend?
[20:05] <sebsebseb> serenity: well use my name in offtopic if you want, because I am there as well
[20:05] <serenity> rhythmsou1, this channel. Just point it at the general channel, not to me personally.
[20:05] <Flannel> gabriel: If its a recent install, you should just reinstall though.  Upgrading won't be worth the effort/bandwidth.
[20:05] <rhythmsou1> serenity: ok :)
[20:06] <kilj> I removed compiz from my system but the graphics card is rising over 70 celsius again.  It still shuts down after 10 minutes.
[20:06] <Doonz> So is there a way to enable remote desktop access without having local access to login to the desktop
[20:07] <kilj> Are there any programs that lower the gpu speed or something?
[20:07] <chrislsp> hello
[20:07] <Tophu> I'm trying to install drivers from the nvidia website .. I had the 180.29 working and when I tried to install the 180.44 it seems to be messing up X
[20:07] <vigo> kilj: Yes, but I have to look it up....
[20:07] <Tophu> I get errors on start up and either have to reconfigure X server or run in "low graphics" mode
[20:08] <chrislsp> i need help with my ipod..i connected it and then lost all my files from ipod...disk is still full but i can not access
[20:08] <chrislsp> anyone??
[20:08] <chrislsp> i use ubuntu
[20:08] <burg> hello. do you know if 9.04 will fix the issue with nvidia 8200 chipset?
[20:08] <Flannel> burg: You should ask in #ubuntu+1, they may know.
[20:09] <^paradox^> well then is there a more specific channel for my palm z22 matter?
[20:10] <burg> thanks
[20:10] <Tophu> is there a way to completely uninstall all nvidia drivers so I can just do a fresh install?
[20:11] <jemark> VLC player is playing the BBC .ram Real Media 3&4 mostely now :)
[20:11] <ewook> !finch
[20:11] <|PaperTiger|> Does anyone here use the program Picaxe?
[20:11] <Ienorand> Tophu: what drivers do you have? "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-glx-xxx" (xxx is version e.g. 173) might work?
[20:11] <MrElendig> Tophu: depends on how you installed them
[20:12] <ewook> Anyone else got a suggestion for a ncurses-based msn/jabber/im-client?
[20:12] <iceroot> !anyone | |PaperTiger|
[20:12] <Flannel> ewook: Try centerim
[20:12] <piglit> is it whise to install a 64 bits linux version (on a E7400 dual core cpu) or is it beter to install a 32 bits version ? the system has got 4 gigs of ram
[20:12] <adrian3> ewook: bitlbee + irssi
[20:12] <MrElendig> piglit: use 64bit, there is no real reason not ot
[20:12] <MrElendig> to*
[20:13] <ganymede> piglit, with 32 bits, you may not get all the RAM visible under the OS
[20:13] <ewook> !bitlbee
[20:13] <iceroot> MrElendig: there a a lot of reasons not to install 64bit
[20:13] <ganymede> piglit, although you may not even need 4 gigs, depending on what you're going to do
[20:13] <MrElendig> iceroot: like what?
[20:13] <Jimi_Neutral> !pastebin
[20:13] <iceroot> MrElendig: driver support for xample
[20:13] <Tophu> well I had the 180.29 then I was stupid and tried to install 177 through the "hardware drivers" then I got 180.44 to work (at least that what the 180.44 installer is telling me is already installed)
[20:13] <MrElendig> iceroot: what drivers?
[20:13] <piglit> MrElendig, someone told me that a lot of 64 bits software simply doesnt work
[20:13] <iceroot> MrElendig: drivers for hardware like printers, webcams, usb-wifi
[20:14] <Tophu> but on boot I get a bunch of errors and only way I can get to desktop is to load into "low graphics" moe
[20:14] <piglit> i want to put windows in a window with vmware and so i ques i need the 4 gigs of ram
[20:14] <MrElendig> iceroot: 99.9% the same support on 64bit as 32bit
[20:14] <Tophu> @Ienorand let me try that purge thing thanks ^_^
[20:14] <MrElendig> piglit: only crappy apps, mostly
[20:14] <iceroot> MrElendig: .... lol
[20:14] <sebsebseb> piglit: 1GB is good for VM's 512MB probably ok, and I would recommend virtualbox
[20:14] <rhythmsou1> Does anyone know if there is correct drivers in ubuntu for the "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) "
[20:15] <MrElendig> rhythmsou1: xf86-video-intel
[20:15] <billenium> How do i setup a wireless network on my Laptop running Ubuntu 8.04 (8.04 was the only CD i had)
[20:15] <rhythmsou1> MrElendig: just use synaptics?
[20:15] <ewook> !centerim
[20:16] <piglit> sebsebseb, for what reason would you recomend virtualbox ?
[20:16] <billenium> Also, i do not think my wireless card is installed... Since when i go to System -> Admin -> Networks it cannot find anything.
[20:16] <n8tuser> billenium -> find out which chip your wifi nic card uses via  sudo lshw -C network
[20:16] <s3r3n1t7> piglit, it runs like a truck on steroids
[20:16] <billenium> okay thanks, ill try that.
[20:16] <n8tuser> billenium -> and post that in pastebin please
[20:16] <n8tuser> !who | billenium
[20:16] <MrElendig> iceroot: last time I saw a 32bit only driver, it was a printer driver, that also included spyware
[20:17] <brightjoker> hey how do you tell a program in Sessions to open in a specific desktop? I have a 2x2 wall want it in bottom right
[20:17] <piglit> iceroot, which drivers are hard ? i have got a 9400 nvidia card and P45 chipset btw
[20:17] <s3r3n1t7> piglit, if your CPU supports hardware virtualisation, it'll run incredifast. My laptop has an XP boot time of 10 seconds, cold boot. VMware has it clocked at 45 seconds.
[20:17] <rhythmsou1> Ok I have xf86-video-intel installed already but lshw shows the display as "UNCLAIMED"?
[20:17] <billenium> n8tuser: i wasn't talking to anyone.
[20:17] <sebsebseb> piglit: ,because for a Windows virtualmachine that isn't on some server/network   it's better
[20:17] <kilj_> My computer is still shutting itself down after removing compiz from my system.  Anyone know how to stop the gpu from overheading in intrepid?  The fan is running at full speed.
[20:17] <sebsebseb> piglit: I mean if you just want to run WIndows inside Ubuntu for some apps, Virtualbox is the way to go
[20:17] <piglit> s3r3n1t7, does virtualbox suport usb etc?
[20:18] <n8tuser> billenium -> well, just make sure you prefix with a nick, so it (your message) does not get lost
[20:18] <sebsebseb> piglit: http://www.virtualbox.org  and  the binary for Linux hosts, for USB suppourt
[20:18] <MrElendig> piglit: the puel version does
[20:18] <s3r3n1t7> piglit, the latest (non-opensource) version from their site does IIRC. Current one from repo's doesn't.
[20:19] <Iraimbilanja> Hey
[20:19] <sebsebseb> hi there
[20:19] <billenium> n8tuser: yes, i know, thanks.
[20:19] <kilj_> Hello.
[20:19] <Iraimbilanja> Could you help me out? I've posted here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1113857
[20:19] <Iraimbilanja> It's a brasero problem.
[20:19] <vigo> kilj: It depends on a lot of other factors, what CPU, what is it stepping, normal specs, laptop or desktop, bet here: http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=ac985caac6543dcad4d36df25b7a3954&t=922505&highlight=cpu+scaling
[20:20] <piglit> hhmmm i'll look in to it sometime in the virtualbox i rather first find out what version i need to download the 64 bits or the 32 bits version
[20:20] <ez> hello All
[20:20] <Tophu> WOOOT that worked thank you all
[20:20] <spaceBARbarian> hey i dont have access to internet on my ubuntu laptop, how can i download vpnc without using 'sudo apt-get' ?
[20:20] <s3r3n1t7> piglit, what does your OS run? 64 or 32bit? then get that version.
[20:20] <ganymede> piglit, i'd also recommend using virtual box's own repo for vbox packages, it seems more up to date last time i checked
[20:20] <sebsebseb> piglit: if your running 32bit ubuntu, 32bit virtualbox,  if your running 64bit ubuntu, 64bit virtualbox
[20:20] <sebsebseb> ganymede: yeah it is
[20:20] <|PaperTiger|> Doesn't anyone know how well the program Picaxe works on Linux?
[20:20] <sebsebseb> ganymede: and only OSE  in Ubuntu repo
[20:21] <bach> hey, does anyone know if you can get openoffice 3.0
[20:21] <bach> ?
[20:21] <iceroot> piglit: as i said, webcam, printer, usb-wifi, some notebook chipsets
[20:21] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: you're thinking about somethink like "dpkg -i" ?
[20:21] <rhythmsou1> everytime i play an avi file the whole PC locks up, no keyboard only mouse movement
[20:21] <sebsebseb> bach: yes from the PPA
[20:21] <ez> I'm having problems running third party apps. xbmc and google earth opens and then crashes immediatley
[20:21] <ez> any help?
[20:21] <bach> sebsebseb: PPA  = ?
[20:21] <iceroot> piglit: so there is not a 99,9% support for 64bit
[20:21] <sebsebseb> bach: or wait for 9.04 and you get it by default
[20:21] <piglit> well i have got new hardware a E7400 and in the weekend i can put it together p5q mainboard and 9400 nvidia videocard
[20:21] <ganymede> are you guys running vbox with the virtualization extensions? (AMD-V Intel VT-x) i'm running it without and i was just wondering how much better it can get with those virtualization extensions
[20:21] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, i have access to the internet only thru windows, i want to install VPNC on my ubuntu install, but i cant use apt-get
[20:22] <bach> sebsebseb: when 9.04 due for release/
[20:22] <sebsebseb> bach: oh  yeah the file systme stuff etc.   nevermind about 9.04 for now then
[20:22] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, a lot
[20:22] <kilj_> It is a desktop model.  It is not the CPU.  The CPU is running comfortable at 35 celsius.  The GPU is an ATI x1800 model.
[20:22] <billenium> I just downloaded a wireless network driver from Intel for linux. it is a .tgz file. How do i install it?
[20:22] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, i'm running xp VM's at a boot time of 10 seconds with the extensions.
[20:22] <kilj_> But the CPU is a Athlon 64 4000+
[20:22] <sebsebseb> bach: 8.10 uses Ext3,   9.04 has  Ext3 as an option.  and I don't want to go on about that again right now,  I already did awhile ago
[20:22] <piotr> YOO :)
[20:22] <ganymede> s3r3n1t7, and can you test how it boots without the extensions?
[20:22] <sebsebseb> !ppa
[20:23] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: download via windows the .deb packages, put them on a USB stick, and use the packages with "dpkg -i" in ubuntu
[20:23] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, sure, gimme a second. Last time i did it was like 40 seconds. 2 secs while i'll test that
[20:23] <bimberi_> bach: https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
[20:23] <sebsebseb> bimberi: yeah I was going to tell him to Google :d since I coudn't be bothered to get the link :d
[20:23] <bach> bimberi: thanks for the link.
[20:23] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, where can i go to get the deb ?
[20:23] <bimberi> np :)
[20:23] <sequethin> anyone have any luck connection evolution to an exchange 2007 server with the exchange connector?
[20:24] <vigo> rhymthsou1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=ac985caac6543dcad4d36df25b7a3954&t=843012&highlight=avi
[20:24] <spaceBARbarian> adrian, nvm i found it
[20:24] <adrian3> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/vpnc
[20:24]  * bimberi thinks ubottu needs a !ooo3
[20:24] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, will this include all the dependent packages ?
[20:24] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, 30 seconds without extensions.
[20:25] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, if you want i'll test it with again to confirm that 10 second claim.
[20:25] <baz> whats the proper way to share folder between ubuntu machines? When I go to sharing options it wants to install a windows service but there are no windows boxes...
[20:25] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: it's reccomended to get them also, because you may never know that packages are missing
[20:26] <LjL> !ooo > bimberi    (bimberi, see the private message from ubottu)
[20:26] <ganymede> s3r3n1t7, it's fine. i believe you. but it makes me wonder whether it is only a boot time difference or also a normal-use difference
[20:26] <bach> bimberi: I am new to ubuntu (today) and so the packages etc is all still new
[20:26] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, each dependent has like 10 other dependents XD
[20:26] <ganymede> s3r3n1t7, at any rate, the boot time difference is good enough for me to consider buying a newer processor
[20:26] <s3r3n1t7> ganymede, yeh it does make that difference. Jst checked it again to be sure. Well my server also has a huge boost in speed with whatever it does.
[20:26] <n8tuser> baz -> look into sshfs
[20:26] <rhythmsou1> does anyone know what "UNCLAIMED" means in the lshw display section?
[20:26] <sebsebseb> bach: ok this covers most, but not all of the basics http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[20:26] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: I think only the libgcrypt and resolvconf are needed ...
[20:27] <bimberi> LjL: Fair enough ;)
[20:27] <s3r3n1t7> baz, samba isn't a windows option. It can use the windows way of sharing, but it's not the same.
[20:27] <LjL> bimberi: i can make an alias if you insist
[20:27] <LjL> !ooo3 is <alias> ooo
[20:27] <spaceBARbarian> adrian3, meh maybe i should just wait and use apt-get on a wired connection :P
[20:27] <bach> sebsebseb: thanks i have it stumbled lol, take some time to read though and get a grip on things.
[20:27] <rhythmsou1> if it says "unclaimed" does it mean i havent got the right drivers installed
[20:27] <trent> Question:  I am trying to work with the program wireshark, however I cannot begin capturing because it lists no interfaces, I know this is incorrect as I have always been able to access the internet via wifi, I am right now, yet wireshark does not recognize my wireless card, I am running a Thinkpad T61, any ideas?
[20:27] <n8tuser> rhythmsou1 -> post in pastebin your results of sudo lshw -C network
[20:27] <baz> n8tuser, i want my girlfriend who will never use the command line to be able to share folders - by clicking, selecting share, etc.
[20:27] <sebsebseb> bach: ok no problem
[20:27] <adrian3> spaceBARbarian: that way also works ;)
[20:28] <bimberi> LjL: No, that's fine imo.  ooo3 will date.
[20:28] <rhythmsou1> trent: use "sudo wireshark"
[20:28] <baz> s3r3n1t7, oh so its acceptable/effeicient to use it between linux boxes?
[20:28] <rhythmsou1> n8tuser: can i post my ubuntu forums link?
[20:28] <kilj_> My CPU is an Athlon 64 4000+ and the graphics card is an x1800 ATI Raedon.  The CPU is not overheating as it remains at 25-30 Degrees Celsius.  It is my GPU that is going upwards of 85+ Degrees Celsius.  All the dusk is cleaned out and it did not do this until I went from hardy to Intrepid.  Anyone have any ideas?
[20:28] <rhythmsou1> n8tuser: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7001455#post7001455
[20:28] <n8tuser> rhythmsou1 -> im not going to wade through lots of text, a concise explanation would do
[20:28] <s3r3n1t7> baz, it's acceptable and easy to use in my opinion. However, i'd recommend going for SSHFS. A bit more setup, much more secure, and much easier to integrate for a longer period of time.
[20:29] <trent> rhythmsoul:  Thanks, running as root has the devices
[20:29] <rhythmsou1> n8tuser: its right on the first post
[20:29] <Crazylink> i would like to know if its possible to set up you desktop to either shut down or go into hibernation mode after not being used for a set time
[20:29] <rhythmsou1> trent: yw
[20:29] <bach> kilj_: u seem to have similar spec as my pc what up.
[20:30] <billenium> I have the 2915ABG wireless network card thing on my computer... Is there any easy way to install a driver for it?
[20:30] <jonathan__> hello! can anyone tell me how to connect two mp4 videos to one? i didn't find anything with google...
[20:30] <Crazylink> i would like to know if its possible to set up you desktop to either shut down or go into hibernation mode after not being used for a set time
[20:30] <kilj_> I think it is around the proprietary drivers.  When i try to change the options in aticonfig it says it cannot go any further without it being initialized.
[20:30] <kaptengu> how can I list a users details from command prompt? (I want to do something like sudo userinfo)
[20:31] <n8tuser> rhythmsoup -> does it match what is shown on xdpyinfo ?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: yes  gshutdown
[20:31] <kilj_> Do you have any ideas on how to lower the overheating of the GPU?
[20:31] <Crazylink> sebsebseb: what does that command do?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: it's a program for what you want
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: install it
[20:31] <adac> Is it possible to install ubuntu from cd on an usb stick, so that I can start ubuntu after from stick?
[20:32] <ez> i have repositories added under software soureces"... for google earth and xbmc... they both starts and then immediately craches... any idea why?
[20:32] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: sudo apt-get install  gshutdown
[20:32] <jackoloco> change for nvidia... always works! always up2date drivers
[20:32] <rhythmsoup> n8tuser: http://rhythmsoup.pastebin.com/d4a1dc5f9http://rhythmsoup.pastebin.com/d4a1dc5f9
[20:32] <Crazylink> sebsebseb: installing now
[20:33] <n8tuser> rhythmsoup -> i dont  know then, what Unclaimed meant
[20:33] <Crazylink> i got it, i think this will do sebsebseb thank you very much
[20:33] <Dreamglider> Jimi_Neutral: any luck ?
[20:34] <bach> sebsebseb: bimberi : not sure which package to download are you able to help
[20:34] <rhythmsoup> n8tuser: whats that
[20:34] <ez> on xbmc i get error message "cannot find mode 0x3d is this an Ubuntu problem or xbmc?
[20:34] <sebsebseb> Crazylink: yep no problem, and then set up a time to shut down yeah
[20:34] <rhythmsoup> n8tuser: whats that xdpyinfo
[20:34] <n8tuser> rhythmsoup -> man xdpyinfo
[20:34] <coreyman> How do I get my mx620 logitech cordless mouse working on linux
[20:34] <vigo> kilj: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[20:34] <Juhaz> coreyman, you plug it in.
[20:35] <Juhaz> the receiver, that is.
[20:35] <coreyman> Juhaz thanks for being a smartass
[20:35] <coreyman> It doesn't work.
[20:35] <s3r3n1t7> coreyman, if it's usb, you do plug it in. If that doesn't make it work, then tell us what it does/doesn't, post what dmesg says about it, check syslog etc ...
[20:35] <coreyman> ok
[20:36] <h4ck3rs0nly> hello!
[20:36] <h4ck3rs0nly> can i ask questions here?
[20:36] <Dreamglider> Hello
[20:36] <Dreamglider> !ask
[20:36] <adrian3> h4ck3rs0nly: h3110 :))
[20:36] <h4ck3rs0nly> cool
[20:37] <chuckh1958> Is there a way to search for new packages added to the repositories after a certain date?
[20:37] <h4ck3rs0nly> sorry i dont know
[20:37] <bach> I would like to download the latest version of oo, been give this link https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa but having problems with the right package.
[20:37] <LjL> chuckh1958: uhm, i don't think so... but if you're after a way to check for "new" packages, aptitude can do that
[20:38] <coreyman> s3r3n1t7 here is my dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/143046/
[20:38] <chrislsp> pleeease someone who use ipod with ubuntu
[20:38] <h4ck3rs0nly> is there a way to put that "user loggen on thing" off?
[20:38] <Dreamglider> bach: you can get the latest OOo from http://www.openoffice.org/
[20:38] <orifice_work> I'm doing a manual install from a livecd but I'm not sure where I can install grub stage1,stage2 etc
[20:38] <Bacon> I need some help with auth.log, apparently none of my SSH attempts are being logged
[20:39] <Dreamglider> h4ck3rs0nly: you can set Ubuntu toautologin
[20:39] <Dreamglider> h4ck3rs0nly: you can set Ubuntu to autologin *
[20:39] <s3r3n1t7> coreyman, that's with the receiver plugged in? Does it blink any lights or something? is the mouse on? Are the batteries charged?
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> no i mean with this here
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> * max|- heeft verlaten (No route to host)
[20:39] <bach> Dreamglider: how would you go about installing the download.
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> that stuff here
[20:39] <progenitus> Hello everyone
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> all the time
[20:39] <h4ck3rs0nly> hello
[20:39] <coreyman> s3r3n1t7 I am not a retard.
[20:39] <chrislsp> pleeease someone who use ipod with ubuntu?
[20:40] <h4ck3rs0nly> i can a little
[20:40] <LjL> !attitude | coreyman
[20:40] <h4ck3rs0nly> ryhtmbox supports it
[20:40] <sebsebseb> !ipod
[20:40] <Bacon> !auth.log
[20:40] <Bacon> ...
[20:40] <coreyman> !attitude | s3r3n1ty
[20:40] <LjL> bach: i don't think you'll have to install any particular package - just add that PPA repository, then sudo apt-get update
[20:40] <progenitus> I have trouble with modules. I added a module (ssb) to the blacklist list, and I am trying to get the wl module to load at boot. So I added it to the /modules config file. It seems like both keep loading at boottime. I have to rmmod them manualy then modprobe wl to get my wireless working. Any idea? Running Jaunty.
[20:40] <h4ck3rs0nly> ubuntu rocks
[20:41] <s3r3n1t7> LjL, thank you.
[20:41] <bach> when u know how it works ;-)
[20:41] <eterna1> i like ljl he is a normal user then boom a operator
[20:41] <LjL> bach: it's easy - do you see those two lines at the  https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa  page?
[20:41] <Dreamglider> h4ck3rs0nly: if auto login is good enough have a look at > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[20:41] <h4ck3rs0nly> yeah but still
[20:41] <Bacon> I cannot get auth.log to register any failed ssh attempts...
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> sorry but im not english, i dont ask it well
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> i mean
[20:42] <h4ck3rs0nly> here