[00:20] <Snoopy> ok I am using Ubuntu 10.04
[00:20] <Snoopy> and it is stable.... or atleast, for me
[00:21] <Snoopy> which makes me very happy with ubuntu working :)
[00:54] <h00k> I'd also be interested if there is any "Beginner Training" available
[00:54] <Snoopy> I think you have to pay for that
[00:55] <Snoopy> But I do plan on making free stuff
[00:55] <Snoopy> to teach people how to use ubuntu
[01:33] <_diablo> h00k: are you still around?
[01:34] <h00k> _diablo: indeed, I am
[01:35] <_diablo> h00k: mr_steve and I are going to be holding Ubuntu Hour in the afternoons at some point
[01:35] <_diablo> probably starting next week at a starbucks downtown
[01:35] <_diablo> if you're interested in help, you're more than welcome to come hang out with us there
[01:36] <_diablo> I think it was Friday, but I'd have to look over the logs from the meeting to be sure
[01:36] <h00k> _diablo: where would this be?
[01:37] <_diablo> at a starbucks downtown. I'm not sure
[01:37] <h00k> Downtown twin cities?
[01:37] <Takyoji> Folks: be sure to participate and spread the following information: http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/01/youtube-20-needs-your-input.html
[01:37] <_diablo> h00k: yup
[01:37] <h00k> _diablo: gotcha. unfortunately, I'll be in Superior, WI so I'll probably not be able to attend
[01:37] <h00k> but I could ... er...participate remotely or something
[01:38] <Takyoji> All you have to do is vote for the idea(s) of having HTML 5/Theora available on YouTube
[01:39] <h00k> and somehow help
[01:43] <_diablo> h00k: okay, we'll keep you posted. :)
[01:43] <_diablo> Takyoji: I'm doing it right now. I really want html5 integration everywhere
[01:43] <Takyoji> I'm DYING for HTML5-based players.
[01:45] <Takyoji> Flash just kills performance, and it's a bit pathetic that people resort to Flash as it's the most widely used (across browsers and operating systems) with builtin support for H.264; the primary reason there's Flash-based players to begin with.
[01:46] <_diablo> Takyoji: true. it uses something like 75% of my cpu with a dual core 2.2 ghz hyperthreading processor.
[01:46] <_diablo> sa.
[01:46] <_diablo> s/sa./sad
[01:47] <h00k> _diablo: make sure to document these Ubuntu Hours!
[01:47] <h00k> tonyyarusso: does your team have Team Reporting?
[01:47] <kermit> why is flash's h.264 rendering so slow?
[01:48] <kermit> i think there's an mplayer plugin to play flash videos, at least for firefox
[01:48] <_diablo> h00k: kk
[03:20] <Snoopy> anyone on right now?
[03:20] <Snoopy> I have a question
[03:20] <Takyoji> Such as?
[03:21] <Snoopy> I am having an issue playing certain videos. More specifically .asf
[03:21] <Snoopy> I need something called a windows speech decoder
[03:22] <Takyoji> ASF is a container format of Microsoft, preferably for streamed content. Is VLC not able to play such for you?
[03:23] <Snoopy> it does not seem to be installed.... should I download it via the website or in the synaptic package manager?
[03:24] <Takyoji> When any Linux distributions, it's most preferred to install through the package manager, as the package manager will update any installed software whenever there's updates as well.
[03:25] <Takyoji> Just go to Applications > Ubuntu Software Centre (previously called "Add/Remove Programs"). And search for "vlc"
[03:26] <Snoopy> ok I am using Synaptic and I am downloading the software and installing it... hope this works
[03:27] <Snoopy> okay an error message popped up
[03:27] <Snoopy> No suitable decoder module:
[03:28] <Snoopy> VLC does not support the audio or video format "wmas". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[03:28] <Snoopy> ok so now what can i do?
[03:28] <Takyoji> "wmas" or wma?
[03:29] <Snoopy> the video format I tried was a .asf
[03:29] <Snoopy> but the error message, I just copied and pasted it
[03:33] <Takyoji> Refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:35] <Snoopy> not much help... I already had Ubuntu restricted extras installes
[03:35] <Snoopy> *installed
[03:41] <Snoopy> Can anyone help me?
[03:42] <Snoopy> When I play .asf videos, I cannot get any audio out of the video.
[03:42] <Obsidian1723> Do you get audo with oog?
[03:43] <Snoopy> oog... what is that?
[03:43] <Obsidian1723> video file type.
[03:43] <Obsidian1723> ogg rather
[03:44] <Snoopy> I have no videos with that format
[03:44] <Obsidian1723> what about with AVI?
[03:44] <Obsidian1723> or WMV?
[03:45] <Snoopy> I might be able to try but I don't have any videos with that format
[03:48] <Snoopy> well that didn't work....
[03:48] <Obsidian1723> hmm
[03:48] <Snoopy> connection timed out
[03:49] <Obsidian1723> hang on
[03:49] <Obsidian1723> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/914191/Windows_Vista_Aero_vs_Ubuntu_Linux_Beryl.avi
[03:49] <Obsidian1723> dl that
[03:49] <Obsidian1723> let me know if vid and audio work.
[03:50] <Obsidian1723> I suspect you may have some codec issues.
[03:50] <Snoopy> both audio and video work
[03:50] <Snoopy> I have ubuntu restricted extras installed
[03:51] <Snoopy> i gotta go soon.....
[03:51] <Obsidian1723> dl that and let me know
[03:51] <Snoopy> download it and try? would i get different results?
[03:52] <Obsidian1723> Its an AVI. I want to see if you can see video and have audio.\
[03:52] <Takyoji> AVI and ASF are merely container formats rather than the actual format itself
[03:52] <Snoopy> i am watching it in firefox and i get both
[03:52] <Takyoji> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_format_%28digital%29
[03:55] <Snoopy> avi worked
[03:55] <Snoopy> asf still doesn't work
[03:55] <Snoopy> gotta go in 5 minutes
[03:56] <Obsidian1723> Its a codec issue.
[03:56] <Snoopy> i will be back in 3 minutes from now
[03:56] <Snoopy> ok
[04:00] <Snoopy> ok back
[04:00] <Snoopy> how can i solve the issue
[04:00] <Snoopy> ?
[04:01] <Obsidian1723> checkout the codecs.
[04:01] <Obsidian1723> Obviously the audio/video does work. COULD be a driver issue, but I doubt that. I'm leaning towards codec.
[04:03] <Snoopy> would you happen to know what I have to search for in the package manager?
[04:03] <Obsidian1723> HOW to fix it EXACTLY? I can't give you step-by-step on that; but I think I've pointed you in the right direction. AVI clearly worked, so you know it's possible. It's just for whatever reason, ASF doesn't work, and that to me, points towards a codec / handling issue.
[04:03] <Obsidian1723> Is w32codecs installed?
[04:03] <Obsidian1723> or if you are on a 64 bit system/OS, w64codecs ?
[04:04] <Snoopy> I can't find then in the package manager
[04:04] <Obsidian1723> sudo apt-get search w32codec
[04:05] <Obsidian1723> ron@anubis:~$ search w32codec
[04:05] <Obsidian1723> non-free-codecs - Non-free codecs
[04:05] <Obsidian1723> w32codecs - Win32 codec binaries
[04:05] <Obsidian1723> ron@anubis:~$
[04:05] <Obsidian1723> I found em
[04:05] <Obsidian1723> Enalbe the universe and non-free repos.
[04:06] <Snoopy> looks like everything on the front page of software sources is enabled but I am having troubles installing it
[04:07] <Snoopy> what is the exact name?
[04:07] <Obsidian1723> it wont let you install it?
[04:07] <Obsidian1723> w32codec
[04:07] <Snoopy> nothing
[04:07] <Obsidian1723> or w64codec dpeending on your OS.
[04:07] <Obsidian1723> What OS are you running?
[04:07] <Snoopy> ubuntu 10.04 32 bit but on a 64 bit computer
[04:07] <Obsidian1723> I know.. Ubuntu, but version, specifics.
[04:08] <Obsidian1723> 10.04 isn't out yet.. unless you are running some Alpha version of it.
[04:08] <Obsidian1723> Well, youd want the w64codec
[04:08] <Snoopy> Aplha 1... lpha 2 comes out on the 14th
[04:09] <Snoopy> what ubuntu version are you using?
[04:09] <Obsidian1723> Well, you are running Alpha software.. chances of anything working at that stage is a miracle.
[04:09] <Obsidian1723> I'm on 8.04.3LTS
[04:09] <Obsidian1723> It goes Alpha, Beta, Developmental, Final (usually) when it comes to software development stages.
[04:10] <Obsidian1723> Is this your production PC or a testing PC?
[04:10] <Snoopy> both
[04:11] <Snoopy> still cannot find the codec
[04:11] <Obsidian1723> well, you may be SOL with that.
[04:12] <Obsidian1723> just my 2 cents worth, but I only upgrade to LTS to LTS +1 and later. Safer and more stable that way.
[04:12] <Obsidian1723> When 10.04 comeso ut in April, I won't upgrade until June when 10.04.1LTS is out.
[04:13] <Snoopy> doesn't ake very much sense to me but ok
[04:13] <Obsidian1723> Just too many issues otherwise. 64bit too, while the future, is behind in many ways (like with Flash)
[04:13] <Obsidian1723> LTS - Long Term Support.
[04:13] <Obsidian1723> I think you may just need to wait until that Alpha comes out with a new build.
[04:14] <Obsidian1723> Hopefully they support what you neeed, otherwise, go back to 9.04 or 8.04.x
[04:14] <Snoopy> I tried looking for the codec stuff on Jaunty and Karmic... I don't have any discs older than 2009
[04:15] <Snoopy> What is 8.04 codenamed?
[04:16] <Obsidian1723> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/914191/custom-ubuntu-8.04.3-desktop-i386-version-5.iso
[04:16] <Obsidian1723> Thats my version of it.
[04:16] <Obsidian1723> Hardy Heron
[04:17] <Snoopy> what is the difference between your custom one and the official normal one?
[04:18] <Obsidian1723> LOTS.. updated OpenOffice, added a bunch of networking apps, 3rd party apps not normally installed, codecs, etc
[04:18] <Snoopy> does it have windows wireless drivers?
[04:18] <Obsidian1723> You can burn it to DVD or use unetbootin to make a bootable USB drive.
[04:19] <Obsidian1723> No Windows drivers. It's Linux, not Windows.
[04:19] <Snoopy> an application called "windows wireless drivers"
[04:19] <Obsidian1723> ah no, didnt install that.
[04:20] <Snoopy> I need that one program to do anything with ubuntu
[04:20] <Obsidian1723> What kind of wifi card do you have?
[04:20] <Obsidian1723> You can download and install it I'm sure.
[04:20] <Snoopy> belkin f5d8053 v3
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>    1.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>       Obtain the Windows Driver for your system and locate the file that ends with .inf.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>    2.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>       Install ndisgtk (System → Administration → Synaptic Package Manager).
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>    3.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>       Open ndisgtk (System → Administration → Windows Wireless Drivers).
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>    4.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>       Select Install new driver.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>    5.
[04:21] <Snoopy> i know that part
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>       Choose the location of your Windows .inf file and click Install.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>    6.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723>       Click OK.
[04:21] <Obsidian1723> ez enough to do :D
[04:21] <Obsidian1723> Have you tried ndiswrapper ?
[04:22] <Snoopy> well I need an internet connection to get the driver installed
[04:22] <Obsidian1723> also, just my 2 cents worth, go with either the Cisco or Atheros cards.
[04:22] <Obsidian1723> WAY better support. With the Atheros stuff you can run them in promiscious mode with the 512A chipset.
[04:23] <Obsidian1723> I suppose you could just download the DEB file, toss it onto a USB.
[04:23] <Snoopy> yeah
[04:23] <Obsidian1723> may not be a bad idea anyway
[04:24] <Snoopy> but for me, I redo my hard drive like every month due to crashes, mistakes, and other silly things I do to it
[04:25] <Obsidian1723> Well, you may want to try Remastersys , thats how I made the version.,
[04:25] <Snoopy> would you know how to make a bootable backup of the system?
[04:26] <Snoopy> I think the current one woule be "ubuntu Customization kit"
[04:26] <Obsidian1723> Remastersys
[04:27] <Obsidian1723> Google that it wil ltake u to the page for it. Add the PPA, install it. easy app.
[04:29] <Snoopy> do you know how someone would download ubuntu by bit torrent?
[04:30] <Obsidian1723> I dont use torrents.
[04:30] <Obsidian1723> but Ubuntu has a BitTorrent installed.
[04:31] <Snoopy> i know that much....
[04:31] <Snoopy> I gotta go
[04:31] <Snoopy> bye
[04:33] <Obsidian1723> ye
[04:33] <Obsidian1723> bye
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> h00k: Not yet, no.
[05:19] <mr_steve> Anyone see this yet? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html
[06:07] <_diablo> mr_steve: yeah, I saw that
[06:07] <_diablo> very good
[06:07] <_diablo> although, now I'm realizing you posted that over an hour ago
[06:07] <_diablo> or less.
[06:07] <_diablo> argh. I'm drunk. Well. yeah. Ignore me. But I'm glad Google is stepping up.
[06:08] <mr_steve> indeed
[20:45] <Takyoji> That is insane: http://ajaxian.com/archives/gordon-flash-runtime-implemented-in-javascript
[22:58] <Takyoji> I wonder if we'll see Microsoft becoming an absolute minority in the smartphone industry (if it isn't already, supposedly)