[05:16] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:17] <ToddEDM2> thx
[05:17] <intelikey> ooooh yuch !   apt just removed dash and left /bin/sh pointing at nothing....  that's a bug.
[05:20] <Jucato> intelikey: maybe bash is still installed?
[05:21] <ubunturos> /oeave
[05:21] <brian__> i cant seem to remove the klam av system tray icon, any takers?
[05:21] <intelikey> yeah it is.   and root uses a custom shell so i'm in no trubble but still that broke apt/dpkg until i fixed the symlink
[05:21] <intelikey> @ Jucato
[05:21] <Jucato> :/
[05:22] <intelikey> brian__ why are you using klamav ?
[05:22] <intelikey> if i don't mind you asking this
[05:23] <brian__> curiosity
[05:23] <mtv> i cannot hear sound with my intel ch5 sound card.  Where should i begin to fix this problem.  I checked out also alsa-mixer, everything is unmuted
[05:23] <brian__> mostly
[05:23] <intelikey> hehhe same reason i did one time...
[05:23] <brian__> kid in a candy store, well more or less killing time
[05:23] <intelikey> mtv the wiki
[05:24] <intelikey> !sound | mtv
[05:24] <ubotu> mtv: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:25] <brian__> it multiplied?! lol
[05:25] <intelikey> brian__ makes all kinds of sense,  but i can't help with that.   :)
[05:25] <brian__> sallright I tried
[05:25] <intelikey> brian__ i would try right clicking it tho
[05:26] <jrenato> i
[05:26] <brian__> will just remove :D
[05:26] <jrenato> good nigth
[05:26] <intelikey> jrenato ttfn
[05:28] <draik> intelikey: Watch Dexter to even it out.
[05:28] <intelikey> no thanks.
[05:28] <draik> intelikey: No, not Dexter's Laboratory, Showtime's Dexter.
[05:28] <intelikey> never heard of.  and prolly don't want to .
[05:29] <intelikey> ah!  there went my mouse
[05:29] <intelikey> must be down to the g's  cause it just ate 'gpm'
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, why exactly are you doing this?
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, trying to rebuild more or less from scratch?
[05:30] <intelikey> cause i couldn't remember any one package to get rid of all kde*
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, ok, fair enough
[05:31] <brian__> yay, removed it effortlessly..love linux
[05:32] <Jucato> intelikey: kdelibs4c2a?
[05:34] <khammlyon> I am getting this message when I am trying to play a DVD
[05:34] <khammlyon> No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/scd0
[05:53] <darkrift> ok... i installed turboprint, but it requires a key (which im not gonna buy) so im trying to uninstall it.... anyone got an idea how i go about that part?
[05:53] <lasking> guys i install kvideoencoder in gnome .show me this Please install the KDE development packages! which packages need i to install it?
[05:55] <Jucato> lasking: kdelibs4-dev
[05:56] <lasking> Jucato: thank you
[05:57] <darkrift> anyone? :(
[05:59] <lasking> Jucato: show it again  Please install the KDE development packages................
[06:00] <lasking> i can't configure it
[06:02] <wolferine> I am having permission issues with using NFS, can someone help me to troubleshoot?
[06:09] <wolferine> I cannot copy to another system on my LAN, permission issue
[06:10] <wolferine> and when I try and mount this system, from that one, I also have a permission issue
[06:10] <gnomefreak> lasking: you cant configure it because you didnt read the instructions that i keep tellin gyou to read
[06:12] <rathel> How do I get the cardreader in my printer to work?
[06:14] <contraY> hi
[06:14] <rathel> Hi!
[06:14] <contraY> what are the required Multimedia packages for xine and Kaffeine to work proeprly?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !multimedia
[06:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:14] <spawn57> anyone have any repositary for w32codecs?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:14] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !mediaubuntu
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <spawn57> ah, i'll google it, thanks
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !mediabuntu
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <spawn57> mediabuntu =D
[06:15] <Dr_willis> spawn57,  that just gave the url to the repository :)
[06:15] <rathel> What about my question? lol
[06:16] <wolferine> NFS issues, anyone willing to help?
[06:16] <spawn57> haha I see
[06:16] <spawn57> nfs3 or 4?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> rathel,  i dident see you ask anything. Other then say 'hi' :)
[06:16] <contraY> the problem is that I installed 7.04 command line without the FULL blown GUI so I am installing stuff one by one
[06:16] <wolferine> ports open, /etc/exports is setup properly, still not able to copy files from A to B
[06:16] <rathel> How do I get the cardreader in my printer to work?
[06:16] <wolferine> spawn57, its latest, 4
[06:16] <spawn57> wolferine: i dunno much about 4, i never got it working
[06:16] <Dr_willis> contraY,  installing 'kubuntu-desktop' should get most of that stuff.
[06:17] <contraY> Dr_willis: didn't at all
[06:17] <rathel> I asked awhile up.. lol That's why you didn't see it.
[06:17] <wolferine> ok
[06:17] <Dr_willis> rathel,  the few printer/cardreaders ive seen - require special driver for the windows box to even see them. :( so thats not a good sign for linux.
[06:17] <spawn57> i switched to cifs
[06:17] <wolferine> spawn57, did you run into any issues, and how did you resolve them?
[06:17] <rathel> Dr_willis: aw. :(
[06:18] <spawn57> nfs 3 was fiairly easy to set up, espeically with a how to
[06:18] <spawn57> i couldn't find anything useful for nfs4 so I gave up on it
[06:18] <Dr_willis> rathel,  i got a card reader built into my laptop that linux cant use either.
[06:18] <wolferine> this has an excellent howto
[06:18] <spawn57> where at?
[06:18] <wolferine> but its not working
[06:18] <rathel> Dr_willis: So I can't get my card reader in my HP Photosmart to work?
[06:18] <wolferine> http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s01.html
[06:18] <spawn57> rathel: hp printer? hp provides drivers for it
[06:19] <Dr_willis> rathel,  id say google for it.. Ive not tried that brand/reader.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> My Canon Printer with reader aint supported by linux at all. :(
[06:19] <rathel> Okay, I got the printer portion working, but no reader yet. :(
[06:19] <contraY> for mplayer what kinda VO should I set? I have a Geforce 5200. Oddly the VO was set to Matrox
[06:19] <spawn57> wolferine: this is for nfs 3
[06:20] <Dr_willis> contraY,  i saw that same thing the other day. I think theres a "x11' or xvid - one to use. I ended yp trying them all. :)
[06:20] <wolferine> ah
[06:20] <spawn57> wolferine: it's exactly what I used
[06:20] <wolferine> and?
[06:20] <spawn57> what error do you get?
[06:20] <contraY> Dr_willis: ok
[06:20] <wolferine> permission errors
[06:20] <wolferine> and I cannot mount A from B
[06:20] <Dr_willis> xv X11/xv is what i am using contraY
[06:20] <spawn57> oh
[06:21] <spawn57> the main thing you gotta do is make sure your uids and gids are both in sync
[06:21] <contraY> Dr_willis: I am trying Xvix working like a charm
[06:21] <contraY> wow real slow!!!
[06:21] <contraY> out
[06:22] <wolferine> spawn57, how do I do that?
[06:23] <rathel> LinuxPrinting.org shows my printer as fully compatible..
[06:23] <spawn57> check your /etc/passwd on both computers by hand
[06:25] <Dr_willis> rathel,  i dont think they consider the media-reader cards..
[06:25] <contraY> Dr_willis: with XV I get this error with mplayer TOO many packets in buffer
[06:27] <Dr_willis> no idea
[06:27] <wolferine> spawn57, yeah, they are both the same
[06:27] <wolferine> :/
[06:27] <rathel> Dr_willis: I think if I use the HPLIP driver it'll work.. I don't kow website is a bit confusing for me.. lol
[06:28] <spawn57> did you try using rpcinfo -p <computerB> on computer A and get a response?
[06:29] <wolferine> do the NFS ports have to be the same on both?
[06:29] <wolferine> thats the only thing I can see thats different between the two
[06:30] <Biovore> wolferine: you doing rootsquash ?
[06:30] <wolferine> nope
[06:30] <wolferine> just getting my systems to share via NFS
[06:30] <Biovore> you get permissions doing stuff to the filesystem as root?
[06:30] <spawn57> what's you mount command?
[06:30] <Biovore> I use NFS here.. no problems..
[06:31] <wolferine> oh well thats great :)
[06:31] <Biovore> the server a linux box?
[06:31] <darkstar> Hello all.
[06:32] <darkstar> I'm unsure as to how to install 3d grapics support in Ubuntu. Can anyone direct me to a good how to site?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:32] <wolferine> B:/home/user /home/user/user nfs rw 0 0
[06:32] <darkstar> Thank you, very much!
[06:32] <wolferine> thats on B, sorry, that should say A:/home/user
[06:33] <Biovore> wolferine: on  the server you install nfs-common and nfs-server and setup a exports file?
[06:33] <wolferine> correct
[06:33] <wolferine> wait
[06:34] <wolferine> there are lots of NFS packages
[06:34] <wolferine> let me compare them
[06:34] <Biovore> you entries on your export look something like this..  /path/to/share ipaddress(rw,async)
[06:34] <wolferine> exports is perfect
[06:34] <wolferine> thats the easy part
[06:34] <Biovore> is rpc.mountd running?
[06:34] <Biovore> and rpc.statd
[06:34] <wolferine> yeah, same NFS are installed on both
[06:35] <wolferine>  5880 ?        00:00:00 rpc.mountd
[06:35] <wolferine>  6012 ?        00:00:00 rpc.statd
[06:35] <wolferine>  6038 ?        00:00:00 rpc.idmapd
[06:35] <wolferine>  5880 ?        00:00:00 rpc.mountd
[06:35] <wolferine>  6012 ?        00:00:00 rpc.statd
[06:35] <wolferine>  6038 ?        00:00:00 rpc.idmapd
[06:35] <wolferine> ops
[06:35] <wolferine> sorry
[06:35] <Biovore> nfs-common, nfs-kernel-server, portmap packages installed?
[06:35] <spawn57> what's the mount command you used?
[06:36] <wolferine> i gave it already spawn
[06:37] <Biovore> I use <server_ip>:/server/path  /local/mount/point nfs noauto,user 0 0   here
[06:37] <wolferine> no rw?
[06:37] <Biovore> rw is specified in exports
[06:37] <Biovore> on the server
[06:39] <wolferine> well, I used it before
[06:39] <Biovore> example exports line on my server:  /home/user    <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,async)
[06:39] <Biovore> where is <IP_ADDRESS> is the ip of the client
[06:40] <wolferine> Biovore, I am a bit beyond that
[06:40] <wolferine> as I said, the exports is perfect
[06:40] <Biovore> what the permissions error then?
[06:42] <Biovore> dose it mount and an you see files?
[06:43] <Biovore> ls -n is usefull in these cases as well..  NFS works by numric UID (don't look at the names)
[06:43] <wolferine> error while copying, ' You do not have perm to write to this folder'
[06:44] <Biovore> The client UID -> Name must match whats on the server..
[06:44] <Biovore> when its mounted..
[06:44] <wolferine> and if I mount A from B, I get:
[06:44] <Biovore> well 1 is a server..   I guess it works..
[06:45] <wolferine> hmm
[06:45] <Biovore> yeah spaces are a pain in the butt
[06:45] <wolferine> copy from A to B
[06:45] <wolferine> doesnt work yet
[06:46] <Stratys> crowbar how goes it
[06:46] <Biovore> if A is a server.. the user on A just copys a file into the share directory on the local filesystem
[06:46] <Biovore> the user on B has to go into a mounted filesystem to get files from the server..
[06:47] <Carnage\> Does someone know where I can change the keyboard binding for ksnapshot which is currently PrintScreen?
[06:48] <Biovore> Carnage\: yes you can change it..  but I have forgoten where..   Its in the kde control panel somewhere..
[06:48] <Biovore> use kcontrol
[06:51] <Carnage\> Biovore: Okay, I'll take a look, thanks
[06:51] <Carnage\> Biovore: There are several shortcuts defined there, but I can't find the one for ksnapshot in that place...
[06:52] <illmortal> Anyone know if 55C/131F is an ok temperature for a PC? Should it be cooler?
[06:52] <Biovore> Carnage\: I thought it was in there.. but I don't see it in there.. :-/
[06:53] <Carnage\> :/
[06:53] <Carnage\> That binding really annoys me :>
[06:53] <Biovore> illmortal: thats an ok tempature if its running hard..
[06:53] <heret|c> illmortal: thats fine
[06:53] <heret|c> illmortal: my old pc ran 129 most of the time
[06:54] <illmortal> Biovore... it was runnin for ten minutes in BIOS.
[06:54] <heret|c> F
[06:54] <heret|c> illmortal: you may need to check your heatsink. it may be clogged with dust
[06:54] <Biovore> its not bad..
[06:54] <Biovore> but not great
[06:55] <Biovore> 68c is the temp the themal throttle back kicks in..
[06:55] <heret|c> ~$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[06:55] <heret|c> temperature:             40 C
[06:55] <Carnage\> Biovore: if you come across the setting again, pls let me know
[06:56] <illmortal> heret|c what command do I type right now in order to see my Processor's temperature? By the way, it's a P4
[06:57] <heret|c> illmortal: the same one i just did
[06:57] <heret|c> do it in a terminal
[06:57] <illmortal>  40 C
[06:57] <illmortal> i don't think that's correct...
[06:58] <illmortal> why would my processor be exactly the same temperature as yours, but in BIOS before I logged on... I waited 10 minutes and it reached 55C
[06:58] <heret|c> illmortal: dunno
[06:59] <illmortal> is that command accurate heret|c?
[06:59] <illmortal> i mean the information it processes.
[06:59] <Biovore> Carnage\: Can always try posting something to the forums I guess..
[06:59] <heret|c> maybe 40c is the default on non acpi enabled systems
[06:59] <Biovore> Carnage\: Looks like its something new to feisty 7.04 that they embedded it into kde..
[06:59] <Carnage\> Biovore: That's supposed to be my next step yes :)
[07:00] <mtv> does alsa-utils need to be running to have sound?
[07:00] <heret|c> lol.. silly kubuntu
[07:01] <Biovore> mtv: not running here..
[07:01] <heret|c> cd /sys/bus/acpi/devices/bus/acpi/devices loop loop loop. looping symlinks that lead nowhere
[07:01] <mtv> ok well, i guess that is not the reason my sound is not working
[07:01] <Biovore> I think it just sets up your previous sound settings when you reboot and saves the current mixer on shutdown.
[07:01] <contraY> ok besides Beryl what's the other EYE-CANDY for Kubuntu? I am not finding kicker-kickoff in apt-get
[07:02] <Biovore> mtv: what sound card?
[07:02] <contraY> what else is kewl out there?
[07:02] <mtv> intel ICH5
[07:02] <Biovore> oh..   What's the issue?  Inaudible audio?
[07:02] <Biovore> mtv: yeah its some non-sesical mixer setting on playback
[07:03] <Biovore> something about surround and the number of channels
[07:03] <Biovore> I ditched it and got a audigy 4
[07:03] <contraY> si Gimp the one for Kubuntu?
[07:03] <Biovore> best $70 bucks I spent
[07:03] <contraY> or is there specifically for Kubuntu?
[07:03] <mtv> Biovore: i have played with alsamixer a lot today trying to get it to work
[07:03] <crimsun> mtv: pastebin the output from ``asoundconf list && amixer'', then tell me the url.
[07:03] <Biovore> I use gimp on kubuntu
[07:04] <mtv> this is my fathers sony vaio
[07:04] <Biovore> but there is krita
[07:04] <mtv> which pastebin do we use here?
[07:04] <Biovore> mtv: laptop?
[07:04] <mtv> nah desktop
[07:04] <contraY> is SuperKaramba supported still?
[07:04] <Biovore> mtv: see topic
[07:04] <contraY> or is there a new type of EyeCandy?
[07:04] <mtv> i see it
[07:04] <Biovore> contraY: I think it is..
[07:04] <contraY> thanks
[07:05] <Biovore> I think it even integrates into kde-look.org for theme retrival for karambas
[07:07] <mtv> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26076/
[07:07] <redl> technical help can not wright or deleate from usb key ?
[07:08] <Biovore> is it mounted read-only for your user?
[07:08] <redl> How can I tell
[07:09] <Biovore> redl: in a shell type mount
[07:09] <Biovore> and look who ones the mount point
[07:09] <Biovore> (owns)
[07:09] <crimsun> mtv: your 'PCM' is muted and zeroed.
[07:09] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'PCM' unmute && amixer set 'PCM' 80%
[07:11] <mtv> crimsun: that setting is due to my latest flurry of changes.  I set PCM to unmute and 80 percent volume.  Still nothing coming out of the speakers
[07:11] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'IEC958' mute
[07:12] <redl> The mount point is root
[07:13] <robotgeek> crimsun: is this a nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) card you are debugging?
[07:13] <mtv> crimsun: still no audio
[07:13] <crimsun> robotgeek: doesn't seem so from the list.
[07:13] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[07:13] <crimsun> robotgeek: those are normally displayed as 'CK804' in the list.
[07:13] <robotgeek> crimsun: i have that card and i have seen this IEC958 thing there (dunno what it is)
[07:14] <robotgeek> crimsun: yes, i have the same
[07:14] <robotgeek> i have managed to get everything except the center speaker to work on my 7.1
[07:14] <mtv> crimsun: set to mute nothing
[07:14] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[07:15] <crimsun> robotgeek: it really depends on the AC'97 codec's revision.
[07:15] <crimsun> some STAC*/ALC* require it set to particular value.
[07:15] <mtv> crimsun: no sound with that set to 0
[07:15] <crimsun> mtv: amixer set 'Line Jack Sense' mute && amixer set 'Headphone Jack Sense' mute
[07:16] <robotgeek> crimsun: i really did not find a setting for it, so i did not bother. however, i could only get my other side speakers to work in the "duplicate front" mode
[07:16] <mtv> crimsun: still without sound
[07:16] <crimsun> mtv: cat /proc/asound/version
[07:17] <mtv> crimsun
[07:17] <mtv> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC).
[07:18] <crimsun> mtv: lsb_release -r
[07:19] <mtv> 7.04
[07:19] <crimsun> ...
[07:19] <crimsun> that's a /really/ different alsa-kernel version.
[07:19] <robotgeek> for what its worth crimsun , i have 1.0.14
[07:20] <mtv> crimsun: yeah its says release   7.04
[07:20] <crimsun> mtv: I presume you inserted a different alsa-kernel version manually?
[07:20] <jordo23> How do you install gnome without switching over to Ubuntu with metapackages and stuff?
[07:20] <crimsun> cos we definitely didn't ship 7.04 with 1.0.12rc1
[07:20] <robotgeek> jordo23: you just install ubuntu-desktop
[07:20] <mtv> crimsun: nope, all i did was upgrade from dapper to edgy to fiesty in one day.  Now no audio
[07:20] <Dr_willis> jordo23,  'switching over' ? you install ubuntu-desktop - and it mught change some default boot/splash gfx. but thats about it.
[07:21] <crimsun> mtv: ah, so you're still running an older kernel
[07:21] <crimsun> mtv: uname -r
[07:21] <mtv> crimsun: 2.6.17-11-386
[07:21] <crimsun> mtv: right, as I suspected.
[07:22] <crimsun> mtv: you should reboot into 2.6.20-16-386 or 2.6.20-16-generic
[07:22] <mtv> need upgrade that bad boy kernel huh.
[07:22] <mtv> alrighty
[07:22] <crimsun> mtv: be aware that one extra step is likely necessary
[07:22] <premier_> Hello, I'm was trying to get a tv to work with an s-video cable and my ati card (fglrx) and now the kcontrol center crashes when I load up the monitors section
[07:22] <crimsun> ...or you can /quit
[07:23] <premier_> is there a way to automatically fix my system?
[07:24] <jordo23> Dr_willis: That's what I mean....is there a way to keep the Kubuntu art and screens....?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> jordo23,  ya can always chnge them back. i tend to disable the silly splash screens and logos.   so i never notice the differance
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !splash
[07:24] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> !bootsplash
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. what was the other factoid
[07:26] <premier_> !x
[07:26] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:26] <Jucato> !usplash
[07:26] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[07:27] <Jucato> Dr_willis, premier_ ^^^^
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Yet somthing else i disable. :)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> I must be old-skool
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. the wife would love it - if i could put the Grandbabies pic on the splash screen.
[07:28] <premier_> Jucato: whats is it?
[07:28] <Jucato> usplash == *buntu bootsplash
[07:28] <Jucato> nuff said. thank you
[07:29] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: my computer allows to put a custom image on boot. i have a kubuntu image i made :). sadly, it has to uploaded into firmware from windows :)
[07:29] <crimsun> mtv: right, you parted before I could finish...
[07:29] <Dr_willis> rob_,  heh  one on the bios. I think mine did that also.. one i had even 'talked'  during the POST messages.. but only with the onboard sound.
[07:29] <mtv> crimsun: yes i saw you wrote something as everything was restarting
[07:29] <crimsun> 01:22 < crimsun> mtv: be aware that one extra step is likely necessary
[07:29] <Dr_willis> rob_,  such silly features eh. :)
[07:30] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: hmm, incorrect tab completion :0
[07:30] <mtv> crimsun: i imagine that one step may be actually installing the kernel :)
[07:31] <crimsun> mtv: if you had linux-image installed, that should have happened already.
[07:31] <robotgeek> you must have woken a poor soul up :)
[07:31] <Dr_willis> heh. :)
[07:31] <Dr_willis> i still think irc clients should put the last person that chatted at the top of the nick-completion list
[07:32] <mtv> well 2.6.17-11-386 is the latest installed on this system, as i saw on grub
[07:32] <Dr_willis> when ya get 300+ peopkle in  the rooms - its getting to be a needed feature
[07:32] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: doesn't irssi do that?
[07:32] <Dr_willis> robotgeek,  not that ive seen. using xchat here.
[07:32] <Dr_willis> of course xchat seems to keep LOSEING features. :)
[07:32] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: yes, i'm pretty sure irssi does that
[07:34] <mtv> crimsun: what is that step i would have to take?
[07:34] <Dr_willis> well night all
[07:36] <a1> i am biginer / ubuntu  or  kubuntu  is beter version ?
[07:36] <robotgeek> a1: heh, kubuntu
[07:36] <robotgeek> a1: anyways, it is pretty easy to switch over, so no worries there
[07:36] <a1> thecs  robotgeek
[07:36] <crimsun> mtv: sudo aptitude install linux-image
[07:36] <crimsun> mtv: or, sudo aptitude install linux-generic
[07:37] <crimsun> mtv: if you have a compelling reason to want -386, use sudo aptitude install linux-386
[07:42] <intelikey> why would x11-common depend on laptop-detect ?
[07:42] <robotgeek> intelikey: maybe the mouse support?
[07:43] <intelikey> thats like saying,  if you run linux laptop-detect has to be installed
[07:43] <intelikey> the more /me despizes *buntu
[07:43] <robotgeek> ooooh noes, don't say that intelikey  :)
[07:44] <rollerskatejamms> Whenever I open Konquerer to browse files my load goes to like 8 and disk IO goes through the roof
[07:44] <intelikey> note*   x11-common   has nothing (or extreemly little) to do with xorg.
[07:44] <rollerskatejamms> any ideas?
[07:44] <crimsun> intelikey: on gutsy, it doesn't appear to at all
[07:45] <robotgeek> anyways, i gotta go to work tomorrow, so night
[07:45] <intelikey> hmmm  well that's a good thought.  but try removing laptop-detect and look at the list of things it will take with it....
[07:45] <intelikey> robotgeek gooday
[07:46] <Jucato> intelikey: apparently that's only true on dapper
[07:46] <intelikey> Jucato well good...   maybe there is hope.
[07:47] <harcol> Holaaa
[07:48] <intelikey> i've been installing things without their dependancies lately,   heh  kinda tricky but so far so good
[07:48] <jontec> O_o
[07:49] <Jucato> no surprise there... that's highly likely of intelikey :)
[07:49] <intelikey> :)
[07:51] <intelikey> ooops.   setting the clock caused that   if it broadcast the away
[07:52] <intelikey> is it ok to timestamp system files say 10 years ago ?
[07:52] <intelikey> or 60 years ago even ?
[07:53] <jontec> absolutely
[07:53] <jontec> yes
[07:53] <mod_config> question: I'm wanting to switch to ubuntu, and I'm also wanting to remove traces of kde, to install Ubuntu, I run ubuntu-desktop package. But how do I remove the kde packages?
[07:54] <intelikey> mod_config apt-get remove --purge '*qt*'     then install the gnome package
[07:54] <mod_config> intelikey: that's it?
[07:55] <intelikey> try it and see
[07:55] <mod_config> heh, okay thanks.
[07:56] <mod_config> intelikey: now, do I use the ' around qt also?
[07:56] <intelikey> i added the '' so the shell wouldn't try to expand the stars...           you can do gnome that way with '*gtk*'    both are a bit messy
[07:57] <mod_config> okay
[07:57] <intelikey> but generally affective
[07:57] <jontec> T_T I hate just about all gnome apps...
[07:57] <jontec> 'cept gparted... it's the man
[07:58] <intelikey> hate ?    well that's hate speach if there ever was any
[07:58] <mod_config> this is the error I got back: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
[07:58] <mod_config> with and without the ''
[07:58] <intelikey> 'libqt*'  maybe
[07:58] <vecina> How come if i log into ubuntu without going through safe mode first my monitor loses signal? o.O
[07:58] <mtv> crimsun:  you there?
[07:59] <crimsun> mtv: yes
[07:59] <mtv> crimsun: i have sound with the update kernel, though it only works with headphone enabled and there is a lot of static or white noise i guess
[07:59] <intelikey> vecina cause the xorg.conf is misconfigured i would assume
[08:00] <jontec> what's that command that fixes that that never helps
[08:00] <crimsun> mtv: 'Headphone' or 'Headphone Jack Sense' ?
[08:00] <vecina> intelikey: I wish i knew exactly how to fit it. shall i post my xorg?
[08:00] <mod_config> ah, working without the first * . thanks intelikey
[08:00] <jontec> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... or something
[08:00] <jontec> no, that's not it
[08:00] <vecina> no that screws things up
[08:01] <mtv> crimsun: headphone
[08:01] <jussi01> could someone tell me the peice of software to use for crating a dvd out of several avi's (xvid)
[08:01] <jussi01> ??
[08:01] <crimsun> mtv: right, that's expected.  It should be left unmuted.
[08:01] <contraY> what's a open PDF viwer?
[08:01] <intelikey> vecina see jontec ^   "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:01] <contraY> thanks
[08:01] <jontec> vecina: exactly, don't do it. If it works in live cd I'd look and see if there's somethign special about your video card
[08:01] <jontec> intelikey: are you sure that's the right command?
[08:01] <vecina> jontec: It DIDNt work in live cd, i had to do some sort of weird stuff.
[08:02] <jontec> intelikey: I don't think it is :D
[08:02] <vecina> and i have an ATI Radeon x700... the evilest of all
[08:02] <crimsun> mtv: make sure 'Master Mono' is unmuted and non-zero (80% seems tolerable on the affected AC'97 codecs)
[08:02] <ryan__> Has anyone been able to install Kubuntu on a usb external hard drive and boot from it?
[08:02] <intelikey> jontec the live CD will probably be using vesa driver.   yes that's the command
[08:02] <crimsun> mtv: you /might/ need 'Headphone Jack Sense' unmuted, too
[08:02] <contraY> what's a good PDF viwer?
[08:02] <crimsun> kpdf
[08:02] <intelikey> is there any such thing as "good pdf" ????
[08:03] <jontec> vecina: intelikey will have the expert advice, but I usually just go to ubuntuforums and search
[08:04] <jontec> lol
[08:04] <mtv> crimsun: no sound with settings changed with jack sensor and with master mono and master at 80 percent
[08:04] <vecina> intelikey: I know dpkg-reconfigure, but when i do that it screws up the settings that envy made. ATI isnt very well supported
[08:04] <jontec> vecina: oh and what kind of weird stuff? do you mean like safe graphics mode? or like editing the xorg.conf file?
[08:04] <intelikey> vecina if it doesn't work without safe mode then how can it "screw it up"   it's already wrong.
[08:04] <vecina> jontec: As in, it iwll set my graphics driver to something wrong like NV
[08:05] <vecina> intelikey: why dont i just paste my xorg?
[08:05] <crimsun> mtv: then do the following:  rm /etc/udev/rules.d/85-alsa.rules, then reboot
[08:05] <vecina> intelikey: so at least ill know what to do
[08:05] <intelikey> well postbin that jo jo
[08:05] <vecina> !pastebin
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:05] <crimsun> mtv: sudo rm, that is
[08:05] <vecina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26080/
[08:05] <ryan__> Has anyone been able to install Kubuntu on a usb external hard drive and boot from it?
[08:05] <vecina> Lets see if thats any good :/
[08:06] <jontec> vecina: my ATi card was fine before proprietary drivers and worked even better after
[08:06] <intelikey> hmmmm you know,  i don't have a browser installed yet.....
[08:06] <jontec> hehe
[08:06] <ringo> is there any way in kubuntu to recover removed files ? (help please, n00b)
[08:06] <vecina> jontec: the ATI works great... its the loading screen that crashes my monitor
[08:07] <vecina> Something about its format or something is causing a signal crash
[08:07] <contraY> ok
[08:07] <intelikey> ringo possable  how important are they?   are you running the system in question?   how many seconds has the fs been mounted sense the rm ?
[08:08] <jontec> vecina: (I was debating the comment 'ATI isn't very well supported' :D) do you have proprietary drivers for your card (not sure if that would help... just doing some information collection)
[08:08] <jontec> installed that is
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> R
[08:08] <lordofthepigs> Hello!
[08:09] <vecina> jontec: i installed via envy, so yes. the non-proprietary drivers sucked.
[08:09] <lordofthepigs> I was wondering why I had an SMTP server on my machine
[08:09] <ringo> 8/10 in importance. yes. don't understand the third :(
[08:09] <lordofthepigs> and if it is really required that it listens on *:smtp
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> err...i'm trying to use an intel intergrated chipset for my graphics card
[08:09] <lordofthepigs> instead of just localhost
[08:09] <jontec> vecina: I've heard of envy, I'll look it up, but okay.
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> xorg is not detecting it correctly, which driver do i use?
[08:10] <vecina> jontec: it goes to the site and gets the latest upgrade so you dont have to :)
[08:10] <ryan__> Has anyone been able to install Kubuntu on a usb external hard drive and boot from it?
[08:10] <intelikey> ringo eeeek.   the more disk activity (fs read/writes) after the rm the less likely a full recovery.   ext# fs does not facilitate any form of "undelete"  and auto defrags constantly    "sorta"
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: maybe you can help...
[08:11] <vecina> The problem is the LOADING SCREEN. Safe mode lets me skip it, its when it tries to load it up that i get an issue.  (I've been having problems with my loading screen, too... like it relaoding several times and still not shutting down, though I'm not sure if it's a recognized problem)
[08:13] <vecina> Well one of them is screwing up. Nexuiz locks up unless i reinstall both... or just one, dunno which
[08:13] <jontec> vecina: also is this amd64 or 32-bit?
[08:14] <vecina> heck, sometimes nexuiz locks up anyway...
[08:14] <vecina> jontec: yes, feisty. AMD64
[08:15] <intelikey> the latest and greatest in 64bit soup
[08:15] <contraY> bye
[08:15] <contraY> soup?
[08:15] <vecina> I wish dearly that i had not gotten a 64 bit
[08:16] <intelikey> vecina they'll run the 32bit version too
[08:16] <jontec> vecina: yeah, me too sometimes :D...
[08:16] <jontec> si
[08:16] <jontec> or you can explore chroot, which I am investigating
[08:16] <vecina> intelikey: any idea why dbus gets borked? thats what automounts stuff like flash drives
[08:16] <jontec> but I guess if it's failing on a normal boot, you probably don't care about it
[08:17] <intelikey> dbus serves as an interprocess communication vehical
[08:17] <vecina> intelikey: so... it being ruined every time i start up could have a lot of bad effects
[08:18] <intelikey> well enough if dbus is hosed then automounting will probably crap out also
[08:18] <mtv> crimsun: i am back after a long reboot
[08:18] <vecina> intelikey: So what could be destroying it? how can i stop it?
[08:18] <intelikey> vecina yes   lots of things expecting to use dbus
[08:19] <intelikey> vecina file a bug and hope  ?
[08:19] <intelikey> !bug
[08:19] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:19] <vecina> intelikey: ... oy
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: can you help me out with my video problem
[08:19] <mtv> crimsun: i still have the same problem.  Sound but only with headphone enabled
[08:19] <vecina> intelikey: well hold on... is there any way to read a log of what happened last time i logged out?
[08:20] <intelikey> vecina /var/log/*
[08:20] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago what it is ?
[08:20] <crimsun> mtv: your phrasing is a bit unclear.  Are you saying only headphones (not speakers) are audible, or are you saying that sound is audible only if 'Headphone' is unmuted?
[08:21] <vecina> :P
[08:21] <mtv> crimson: when headphone is unmuted
[08:22] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago   lshw | less   see if   i810   is not the driver you want.
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: would it list the driver I need?
[08:23] <intelikey> lshw will list the card
[08:23] <intelikey> you use the driver for the card
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know the driver
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i have the card though
[08:24] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago probably   i810   but better to check.    i'd say pastebin the vidio section of   lshw   but i still haven't installed a browser......
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> paste.stgarber.org/1653
[08:25] <intelikey> nah i'm enjoying the freedom to much to mess it up.
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.stgraber.org/1653
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry thats the real link.
[08:27] <intelikey> same link
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> no, typo in the first one
[08:30] <mtv> crimsun: i think sticking headphone as my default will be fine.  I appreciate your help very much.
[08:30] <crimsun> mtv: ok
[08:36] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago not bad.     revisit your post    see line 99
[08:37] <intelikey> i don't have a web browser installed   hehhhe
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: i'm trying somethings out
[08:38] <epimeth> good morning folks!
[08:38] <intelikey> epimeth shalom
[08:40] <nickgraber> how do I find out what speed my network link is running at from the terminal?
[08:41] <dvm>    How to catch USB interrupts in 'C'. I am in a situation that i need to call a particular function that written in 'C' whenever an USB device is plugged.
[08:50] <fusiogen> hi
[08:50] <fusiogen> french?
[08:50] <intelikey> !fr
[08:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:50] <fusiogen> merci les filles :)
[08:50] <intelikey> merci buco

[08:52] <fusiogen> on Konversation irc   where i can go to @qnet  where is the onfiguration for tape it and go to qnet?
[08:52] <fusiogen> ou doisje aller pour configurer konversation irc pour pouvoir aller dans quacknet
[08:55] <sivaji> !shipit
[08:55] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[08:55] <intelikey> gooday all. and peace be with you.
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, any ideas on how to fix my sound issue? I'm not getting anything out
[09:00] <vecina> *sigh*
[09:00] <vecina> is there any reason why the kubuntu loading screen would crash my computer? what drivers and such does it try to use?
[09:01] <crimsun> usplash vs. fglrx/nvidia?
[09:01] <vecina> crimsun: usplash?
[09:01] <crimsun> vecina: the blue kubuntu logo (not in KDM)?
[09:02] <crimsun> (black background)
[09:02] <crimsun> or is it purple?
[09:02] <crimsun> I haven't seen the usplash logo in some time
[09:02] <vecina> crimsun: yes, that one
[09:02] <crimsun> right, are you using fglrx or nvidia?
[09:02] <vecina> it crashes my monitor
[09:02] <vecina> fglrx
[09:02] <vecina> it did this on the install disk too, i had to use the text installer
[09:02] <crimsun> try booting without usplash
[09:02] <sivaji> how to see my knoqueror history
[09:03] <vecina> without usplash?
[09:03] <sivaji> how to see my konqueror history
[09:03] <vecina> how do you edit the grub entries again?
[09:03] <crimsun> vecina: well, to test, just choose the recovery boot option in the grub boot menu, then when a prompt is presented after it boots, type: telinit 2
[09:04] <vecina> telinit 2? okay... brb
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, just did "sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> didn't work, did I want intel8x0m?
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> perhaps I made an error. its an intel controller...hmm
what card
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ultimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> perhaps I want ac97-codec?
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Intel#matrix
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> insmod: thank you looking...
[09:09] <vecina> okay removing 'splash' did it....
[09:09] <vecina> OMG!
[09:09] <vecina> And now DBUS is working!!!!!
[09:09] <vecina> So, safe mode shuts off dbus.... huh!
[09:09] <vecina> *slaps face*
[09:10] <illmortal> Does anyone know how to tweak/overclock NVIDIA video cards?
[09:10] <obvio171_> i want to split a big flac into individual tracks according to the cue sheet, does anyone know of a program that does that?
audacity
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> insmod: okay i may sound like an idiot here, which card do I have then?
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> also, if i need intel8x0m, how do i unload 8x0?
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i think I have ICH4
 rmmod
[09:11] <obvio171_> insmod: it does that automatically or do i have to check the times in the cue sheet and do it myself?
 try till one works there are only three
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> okay trying
 flac audio ?
[09:12] <obvio171_> insmod: yep
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> its "in use"...trying something else
 what cue sheet
[09:13] <obvio171_> insmod: it's a text file that comes with it saying the names of the tracks and the start times of each of them.
[09:13] <obvio171_> amarok recognizes this and lets you jump to a specific point in the file given by the cue sheet
[09:13] <obvio171_> but i wanted to have separate files for different tracks
no idea sorry -- uadacity is an audio recorder editor
[09:14] <insmod> audacity that is
[09:15] <obvio171_> hm, ok
[09:15] <obvio171_> insmod: thanks anyway. i'll look into it :)
[09:15] <Rictoo> What would be the best KDE partition manager which can also handle NTFS and hopefully won't screw up my system? :)
[09:19] <bryan> hi, can anyone tell me why my OS X install disc wont mount in Ubuntu? little frustrated, need to re-nstall OS X, but cd wont mount, and isnt booting?
[09:19] <jontec> rictoo: I don't know of one.... install gparted
[09:19] <osinkin>    mc
[09:20] <jontec> Rictoo: qtparted it a piece of crap
[09:20] <jontec> is*
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> insmod: a reboot worked...I feel like a windows user. Thanks
[09:23] <epimeth> bryan: could be the disc is busted....
[09:23] <bryan> epimeth- it mounted fine in osx
[09:24] <epimeth> bryan: but like you said, the computer won't boot from it
[09:24] <epimeth> brb folks... something is screwy with my network :-(
to not reboot just rmmod or kill the pid or program eg rmmod nvidia or kill 1809 or killall -9 gedit
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll remember that
[09:27] <emin3m95> hi all/ Salut tout le monde
[09:31] <fusiogen> emin3m95: salut
[09:31] <fusiogen> :)
[09:43] <emin3m95> un francais?(ou du moins francophone)
[09:51] <fusiogen> ouyi
[09:51] <fusiogen> oui francais
[09:52] <emin3m95> tu t'y connais bien en ubuntu?
[09:54] <fusiogen> non
[09:54] <fusiogen> je debute :(
[09:54] <fusiogen> et je suis sous Kunbuntu depuis talheur ^
[09:54] <fusiogen> ^^
[09:54] <fusiogen> et jarrive pas a faire marcher le wifi
[09:54] <fusiogen> et encor moins steam
[09:55] <emin3m95> erf
[09:55] <emin3m95> moi je pexu peu t'aider
[09:55] <emin3m95> peux*
[09:55] <bjwebb_> please can someone help
[09:55] <jontec> hola
[09:55] <bjwebb_> ctrl + esc won't show any processes
[09:57] <fusiogen> cool
[09:57] <fusiogen> :)
[09:57] <bjwebb_> http://two.xthost.info/linux/snapshot1.png
[09:57] <fusiogen> on peut faire une convers vocal?
[09:58] <jontec> no
[09:58] <emin3m95> ha on peut pas parler en pv, vive le flood alors
[09:58] <jontec> (lol, sorry)
[09:58] <fusiogen> mdr
[09:58] <emin3m95> une converse en vocal ou ca?
[09:58] <fusiogen> sur msn
[09:58] <jontec> bjwebb_: why do you need to see the processes? (I've never used ctrl + esc)
[09:59] <emin3m95> y'a pas msn sur kubuntu ^^
[09:59] <bjwebb_> because i can't use any apt program because it says apt is already running
[09:59] <bjwebb_> and i don't have it open
[09:59] <fusiogen> bha si mdr
[09:59] <jontec> bjwebb_: is syntaptic/adept running?
[09:59] <bjwebb_> not that i know of
[09:59] <fusiogen> demarer internet kopete
[09:59] <fusiogen> demarer internet kopete
[09:59] <bjwebb_> theres no window
[10:00] <fusiogen> ^^
[10:00] <bjwebb_> which is why i want to find wat it is and end it
[10:00] <emin3m95> j'ai lopete et gaim, je prefere gaim
[10:00] <emin3m95> mais je peux pas t'envoyer mon addresse ici, y'a pas de pv...
[10:01] <jontec> bjwebb_: everyone here looks dead, ask on #ubuntu, tell them that you need to get into apt, but you can't close adept/synaptic... or just that you need to unlock apt-get
[10:02] <fusiogen> k
[10:02] <fusiogen> moi cest<EMAIL_ADDRESS>cest mon msn
[10:03] <fusiogen> tape /join #pvici
[10:19] <fusiogen> fr
[10:19] <fusiogen> francais
[10:19] <fusiogen> french
[10:20] <pag> !fr
[10:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:20] <emin3m95> c'est pas faux
[10:20] <fusiogen> merci
[10:20] <fusiogen> !fr
[10:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:20] <emin3m95> !fr
[10:20] <fusiogen> !fr
[10:20] <fusiogen>  he  he
[10:20] <emin3m95> lol
[10:20] <fusiogen> wp :) fp
[10:21] <emin3m95> bon go sur kubuntu-fr
[10:25] <sivaji_> hi epimeth
[10:25] <epimeth> hi sivaji_
[10:25] <epimeth> :-)
[10:26] <sivaji_>  !gpg
[10:26] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[10:26] <epimeth> sivaji_: you actually check to see who logged in?
[10:26] <sivaji_> ho
[10:27] <epimeth> you calling me a garden instrument?
[10:27] <sivaji_> are u asking me
[10:31] <Lynoure> hmmm
[10:32] <ciacon> hi @ all... I have a question. How can I best make my files acessable over the internet using apache... best login based
[10:35] <dev_> hello
[10:37] <ciacon> hi dev_
[10:40] <dev_> I am using 7.04, but since last 2-4 days I am having problem.
[10:40] <dev_> When I start machine and start typing anything then after some characters, it start removing from last (like backspace).
[10:40] <dev_>  so I just can't type anything. It get solved automatically after some restart
[10:40] <chuen> !info Amarok
[10:40] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.5-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 14853 kB, installed size 33992 kB
[10:40] <FisherPrice> !nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <chuen> Hi. Does anyone know whetehr, if I upgrade from Edgy to Feisy apps are automatically upgrded to the latest version for the Feisty?
[10:42] <Fr0de> chuen: assuming there are updated versions available in the repos, yes
[10:44] <Fr0de> chuen: are you upgrading by using apt-get ?
[10:45] <oOpusOoperandi> hi
[10:45] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: hi :)
[10:45] <oOpusOoperandi> hi
[10:45] <fusiogen> !fr
[10:46] <fusiogen> fr
[10:46] <fusiogen> !fr
[10:46] <oOpusOoperandi> why can you use a number and it didn't let me?
[10:46] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:46] <oOpusOoperandi> does Kaffeine work best with xine?
[10:46] <oOpusOoperandi> that's what I've I installed
[10:46] <fusiogen> merci
[10:47] <oOpusOoperandi> what else is important to get ALL multimedia RIGHT?
[10:47] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: you mean the number in my nick? I dunno why, maybe I'm just lucky..
[10:47] <fusiogen> merci :)
[10:47] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: I prefer vlc - kaffeine scews up sound sync in mp4 playbacks
[10:48] <oOpusOoperandi> oh
[10:48] <fusiogen> merci :D
[10:48] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: at least, it does for me
[10:48] <Fr0de> YMMV :P
[10:49] <oOpusOoperandi> Fr0de: so what's a bulletproof line for VLC?
[10:49] <oOpusOoperandi> to get it right at first shot
[10:49] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: you mean to install it?
[10:50] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: sudo aptitude install vlc
[10:50] <oOpusOoperandi> yeah
[10:50] <fusiogen> merci merci :D
[10:50] <oOpusOoperandi> w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t
[10:50] <oOpusOoperandi> that's it?
[10:50] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: from memory, yeah..
[10:50] <fusiogen> non merci :D
[10:51] <uwe_> uwe, sorry :)
[10:53] <oOpusOoperandi> ok any of you guys using either TASTY MENU or KICKOFF?
[10:53] <oOpusOoperandi> I can't find neither in apt-get
[10:53] <fusiogen> so st :)
[10:53] <fusiogen> su
[10:53] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: you can't find them because they're not ther :)
[10:53] <Jucato> there*
[10:53] <oOpusOoperandi> why??!!!
[10:53] <oOpusOoperandi> they are kewl
[10:54] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: not me..  Like KDE embodies the qualities of simplicity
[10:54] <oOpusOoperandi> ha ha ha
[10:55] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: simple, but not braindead :P
[10:55] <PolitikerNEU> and - by the way: http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/kubuntu/feisty/
[10:55] <oOpusOoperandi> LMAO you got me in stitches with that
[10:56] <oOpusOoperandi> PolitikerNEU: mm... it's tempting
[10:56] <oOpusOoperandi> wtf is FALF
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> http://falf.sourceforge.net/
[10:57] <PolitikerNEU> A media player for kde
[10:58] <oOpusOoperandi> I don't know about ksmoothdock, looks it's no longer maintained ---> Updated:  Apr 19 2007
[10:59] <Jucato> what's your definition of no longer maintained? O.o
[11:00] <Jucato> er.. that's*
[11:00] <oOpusOoperandi> Jucato: hasn't  been updated since then
[11:00] <oOpusOoperandi> could brake havoc on my shiny new Fiesta
[11:00] <Jucato> and??? there are apps that are still working and being used today that might have not been updated since... hm.. say 2006?
[11:00] <Fr0de> less than 2 months = not maintained now?
[11:01] <oOpusOoperandi> what about tastymenu, is that in developement?
[11:01] <Jucato> there is this little thing called "development period", you know... when you do development stuff, fix bugs, add features, etc... a period where you don't really release anything... can last for weeks, months...
[11:02] <chuen> Fr0de: So sorry, I had to answer a phone call ...
[11:02] <Fr0de> chuen: that's ok, no problem :)
[11:02] <oOpusOoperandi> what's the most popular O$ X type of taskbar?
[11:02] <oOpusOoperandi> I mean those icons that jump?
[11:03] <chuen> I was going to use Adept, but had errors - if I put my sources.list on pasteboard, would you mind having a look?
[11:03] <Fr0de> sure thing
[11:03] <chuen> Fr0de: Thx - one sec...
[11:05] <oOpusOoperandi> how do I install those .deb packages?
[11:05] <oOpusOoperandi> I click on them and don't install
[11:05] <Fr0de> oOpusOoperandi: download them, then dpkg -i <package.deb>
[11:05] <chuen> Fr0de: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26094/
[11:06] <Fr0de> chuen: looking now.. :)
[11:06] <chuen> Fr0de: kk
[11:06] <oOpusOoperandi> ok I did
[11:06] <PolitikerNEU> right click --> ubuntu package menu --> install
[11:06] <oOpusOoperandi> now whre are they supposed to be?
[11:06] <oOpusOoperandi> snoothdock is not showiwng up
[11:06] <oOpusOoperandi> by the way is smoothdock the most popular O$ X type?
[11:07] <Fr0de> chuen: what do you get if you 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[11:08] <oOpusOoperandi> both aren't showing up
[11:08] <chuen> Fr0de: A few fetch errors - shall I pste here? About 6 of them.
[11:08] <oOpusOoperandi> nor Tasty Menu nor Ksmoothdock
[11:08] <Fr0de> chuen: actually, you're mixing a lot of different version repos..
[11:09] <Fr0de> chuen: you want it to be all feisty, right?
[11:09] <chuen> Fr0de: That's right.
[11:09] <lithiumX>  does anyone know where tour applications go when their installed?
[11:10] <Fr0de> chuen: does your ISP provide a mirror to download from?
[11:11] <chuen> Fr0de: I doubt it.
[11:11] <oOpusOoperandi> mm... I am not too hot about ksmoothdock, I would call it kstiffdock
[11:11] <Fr0de> chuen: it's worth checking, especially if you have a download quota
[11:11] <chuen> Fr0de: Thy want nothing to do with Linux :)
[11:12] <chuen> Fr0de:  no d/load quota - could download (K)ubuntu image in one go.
[11:12] <Fr0de> chuen: that's ok, then.. :)
[11:12] <chuen> Fr0de: Shall I paste errors?
[11:13] <darkrift_> the guy in xchat channel is an *@#&
[11:13] <oOpusOoperandi> great it just crashed
[11:13] <Ayabara> I have a dual monitor setup in kubuntu, and I would like focus to follow the screen my pointer is in. Is there a way to do this?
[11:13] <chuen> Fr0de: Thos one looks weird: http://archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <oOpusOoperandi> as I  said, no longer in development. I was kinda right
[11:13] <darkrift_> i remember open source help providers being less egotistical back in the day
[11:14] <Fr0de> chuen: yeah paste the errors
[11:14] <darkrift_> must be too many windows users going over
[11:14] <chuen> Errhttp://archivey.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages
[11:14] <chuen>   Could not resolve archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <chuen> Fetched 7B in 1s (7B/s)
[11:14] <chuen> Failed to fetch http://archivey.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/Release.gpg  Could not resolve archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <chuen> Failed to fetch http://archivey.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2  Could not resolve archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <chuen> Failed to fetch http://archivey.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not resolve archivey.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <oOpusOoperandi> on top of that not compatible with berl
[11:14] <chuen> Reading package lists... Done
[11:14] <chuen> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:14] <Fr0de> chuen: lol - I meant paste in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:15] <chuen> Fr0de: Sorry, thought it was shorter :(
[11:15] <Fr0de> chuen: but never mind..
[11:15] <Fr0de> lol
[11:15] <jordo23> How do you set your default Torrent program in Kubuntu?
[11:15] <oOpusOoperandi> it has an ugly scratched white and black bllock above, icons are jagged and mad pixelated, no transparency
[11:15] <darkrift_> I understand this is not the proper place to ask, but having many helpfull and knowledgeable ppl around, im hoping for a hint.. Does anyone here know how to unload a .tcl file from xchat?
[11:16] <Fr0de> chuen: I think you want 'archive.ubuntu...' not 'archivey.ubuntu...'
[11:16] <Fr0de> chuen: drop that rogue 'y'..
[11:16] <darkrift_> dont typo's suck?
[11:17] <chuen> Fr0d: That's what I thought :) Don't know hwere the 'y' came from
[11:17] <oOpusOoperandi> Tasty Menu doesn't even show up on the Start Menu
[11:17] <oOpusOoperandi> so I can't configure it
[11:17] <Fr0de> chuen: kill it... :P
[11:17] <oOpusOoperandi> that's great
[11:17] <chuen> Fr0de: OK - just delet the 'y', right?>
[11:17] <Fr0de> chuen: and change every spo where edgy or dapper is mentioned to feisty
[11:18] <Fr0de> spot
[11:18] <chuen> Fr0de: OK Thx
[11:18] <Fr0de> chuen: save a backup of the file first!
[11:18] <Fr0de> :P
[11:18] <chuen> Fr0de: OK :)
[11:19] <Fr0de> chuen: then run 'sudo apt-get update' and see how it goes
[11:19] <jordo23> Where in KDE to you set file associations for torrent files? They open in Bittorrent and I need them to open in Ktorrent
[11:20] <Fr0de> jordo23: right-click on a .torrent file, then click the little spanner
[11:22] <galathalion> why aint my screensaver working?
[11:22] <oOpusOoperandi> OMG kiba is installing 3/4 of Gnome stuff
[11:22] <oOpusOoperandi> OMG what have I done!!!
[11:23] <jordo23> Fr0de: Thanks.....forgot how to do that...
[11:23] <Fr0de> jordo23: all good now? :)
[11:24] <jordo23> Fr0de: yep....
[11:24] <Fr0de> jordo23: I meant to say right-click, get Properties, then click spanner, of course :P
[11:24] <jordo23> If In installed ubuntu-desktop, is there a way to uninstall Gnome and stuff and leave my KDe setup intact?
[11:24] <Fr0de> missed the middle step.. hehe
[11:25] <Fr0de> jordo23: hmm.. should be a matter of making sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, then remove ubuntu-desktop, I think
[11:25] <Fr0de> jordo23: disclaimer: I've never tried it! :P
[11:25] <jordo23> Fr0de: I want to get rid of all the Gnome stuff too....gnome apps, etc...
[11:25] <chuen> Fr0de: Ok, I'll do that now . TTYS (hopefully!)
[11:26] <Fr0de> chuen: good luck
[11:26] <Jucato> jordo23: hold on a sec
[11:26] <jordo23> Jucato: Hey Jucato...
[11:26] <Jucato> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[11:26] <Fr0de> jordo23: it *might* all go when you kill the gnome desktop stuff..
[11:27] <jordo23> Jucato: Thanks....but which should I do, the top method or the complete (bottom) method?
[11:28] <knubbe> hi, im trying to install the java-plugin for my mozilla web browser. even though ive installed java6-plugin it simply wont work. (it says the plugin is missing then im going to a web page with a java applet)
[11:28] <knubbe> anyone who knows why?
[11:28] <Jucato> jordo23: the "top" method is "Remove Ubuntu", while the bottom is "Remove Xubuntu". can you figure out which one you should use? :D
[11:29] <knubbe> i have the exact same problem with mplayer, so i think there might be something wrong with my plugins-folder (wherever i find that one)
[11:29] <Fr0de> chuen: I'm going now, so if you have problems, I'm sure someone here will help you further! or check the ubuntu forums on the web.. :)
[11:29] <Fr0de> see you, all!
[11:30] <Jucato> by frodo
[11:30] <Jucato> er... Fr0de :)
[11:30] <Fr0de> lol
[11:30] <Fr0de> byeee
[11:30] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: btw, kiba-dock isn't a KDE app :)
[11:30] <jordo23> Jucato: Does this look right?   http://pastebin.ca/573864
[11:31] <oOpusOoperandi> WOW kiba dock is HOOOT
[11:31] <oOpusOoperandi> hawt!!!
[11:32] <Jucato> jordo23: looks ok
[11:32] <jordo23> Jucato: here goes nothing...
[11:32] <Jucato> jordo23: you can always install "kubuntu-desktop" to make sure you have a working kubuntu in the end
[11:32] <jordo23> Jucato: Will do
[11:33] <jordo23> thanks
[11:33] <chuen> Jucato: Would you mind having a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26095/
[11:33] <chuen> Jucato: Fr0de was helping me but had to go ...
[11:33] <chuen> Jucato: Was tring to upgrade after editing sources.list.
[11:34] <oOpusOoperandi> by the way, you'd need a physics engine to run Kiba-dock
[11:34] <Jucato> chuen: 1) there's not amarok-latest for Feisty. might as well remove that
[11:34] <chuen> Jucato: OK
[11:34] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: kiba-dock comes with it's own, called akamaru
[11:35] <chuen> Jucato: Shoul I just run it again after deleting that entry?
[11:35] <chuen> Will it be any esier if I use Adept?
[11:35] <Jucato> chuen: yes you can run apt-get update again. whether it will be easier in Adept, dunno
[11:36] <chuen> Jucato: I was wondering whethe it might be easier to 'interact' with Adept because of the GUI :)
[11:36] <Jucato> chuen: btw. the "E" stands for errors, you absolutely must fix those to be able to continue working. "W" are for warnings, you can still continue using if you don't fix those
[11:37] <Jucato> chuen: well, yes and no, depending on which version of Kubuntu :)
[11:37] <chuen> Jucato: Current;y , Edgy
[11:37] <danielw> anyone know how to disable the EDC with the DD command?
[11:37] <Jucato> ah well, I'd say that it's a bit of a no...
[11:39] <jordo23> Jucato: Would running all that remove Cedega?
[11:39] <jordo23> I don't see it anymore
[11:40] <Jucato> well looks like it... it may have depended on some GTK library..
[11:40] <Jucato> you can reinstall it. your user-specific cedega settings are usually saved in $HOME anyway
[11:42] <jordo23> Jucato: yeah.....was python-glade2
[11:42] <chuen> Jucato: Didn't get any '"E's" that time.
[11:43] <Jucato> chuen: good. later on, you might want to remove those duplicate entries that it mentions.
[11:43] <chuen> Jucato: OK, thanks. What do I need to do next?
[11:43] <Jucato> chuen: um.. I don't know. what were you trying to do in the first place? :)
[11:44] <chuen> Jucato: Upgrade to Feisty :)
[11:44] <Jucato> !upgrade
[11:44] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:44] <jordo23> Jucato: Got it back....thanks Jucato
[11:44] <Jucato> hm...
[11:45] <Jucato> chuen: you manually changed your sources.list?
[11:45] <chuen> Jucato: Yes.
[11:45] <Jucato> chuen: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (or in Adept, Full Upgrade)
[11:45] <chuen> Jucato: Fr0do advised.
[11:46] <chuen> Jucato: OK, will try Adept
[11:46] <chuen> Jucato: Thx for help.
[11:46] <Jucato> chuen: Full Upgrade -> Preview Changes (just to make sure everything's ok) -> Apply Changes
[11:46] <chuen> Jucato: OK
[11:48] <oOpusOoperandi> a good P2P program?
[11:49] <oOpusOoperandi> anyone got an idea?
[11:49] <oOpusOoperandi> need one ASAP
[11:52] <PolitikerNEU> amule, mldonkey, ktorrent, azureus ...
[11:52] <PolitikerNEU> what do you need it for?
[11:52] <darkrift_> ktorrent is p2p and not just torrent?
[11:54] <PolitikerNEU> torrent is p2p
[11:54] <vista> how do i get prozilla ?
[11:55] <vista> whats the link to ubuntu-effects chat room ?
[11:55] <PolitikerNEU> #ubuntu-effects
[11:55] <Jucato> vista: #ubuntu-effects
[11:55] <jordo23> Jucato
[11:55] <vista> how do i get prozilla?
[11:56] <PolitikerNEU> what is prozilla?
[11:56] <jordo23> Jucato: I think when I ran that before it deinstalled flash.....which package to reinstall?
[11:56] <vista> download manager
[11:56] <jordo23> For Macromedia
[11:56] <Jucato> jordo23: flashplugin-nonfree
[11:56] <jordo23> Jucato: Thanks
[11:57] <PolitikerNEU> vista: http://prozilla.genesys.ro/?p=download
[11:57] <PolitikerNEU> debian package should work
[11:58] <vista> PolitikerNEU: there are no debain packages
[11:58] <vista> PolitikerNEU: cant find a debain package
[11:59] <vista> should i try prozgui
[11:59] <PolitikerNEU> yes ... but you could also try d4x
[12:00] <vista> whats d4x ?
[12:00] <vista> can ony help me with kbfx
[12:00] <vista> how do i get this theme working http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Just+Vista?content=59013
[12:01] <vista> PolitikerNEU: i cant install prozgui
[12:01] <PolitikerNEU> d4x = another download manager; what is the error message with prozgui?
[12:01] <PolitikerNEU> of course you need to install the console version first
[12:02] <vista> how do i do that
[12:02] <vista> package libftk1.1c102 not found
[12:02] <vista> dependencey problem
[12:03] <vista> ?
[12:04] <PolitikerNEU> ubuntu somewhat has deleted the prozgui packages ...
[12:04] <vista> so i cant use prozilla nor prozgui ?
[12:05] <faidillinger> ruthless: my style as a juvenile
[12:05] <PolitikerNEU> maybe you can try to install it from source
[12:05] <vista> how?
[12:07] <PolitikerNEU> download the source
[12:08] <PolitikerNEU> then go into the console, cd to your folder, extract the archive (with tar xvfj prozi [TAB]  [ENTER] ), go into the created folder and then run ./configure && make && sudo make install
[12:18] <darkrift_> this mnight be a stupid q, but what do you do with a .bin file (dont think its an image)
[12:18] <darkrift_> nvm
[12:19] <darkrift_> ./ worked
[12:22] <dvm> how to catch usb interrupt using d-bus and hal in  my 'c' code?
[12:26] <oOpusOoperandi> has anyone installed VmWare Workstatoin aruond here?
[12:26] <oOpusOoperandi> I am in the process
[12:26] <oOpusOoperandi> is it difficult?
[12:36] <ethanjulio> My audio just lowered down it's volume...anyone can help me "energize" it back?
[12:37] <oOpusOoperandi> to install Vmweare I am supposed to do this line ln -s linux-headers-2.6.20-16-uname -r linux
[12:38] <oOpusOoperandi> yet I don' have that ln -s linux-headers-2.6.20-16-uname
[12:38] <oOpusOoperandi> I don't have anything with uname at the end
[12:38] <oOpusOoperandi> am I supposed to make that up?
[12:38] <oOpusOoperandi> I don't         have linux for that matter
[12:39] <Jucato> oOpusOoperandi: linux-headers-`uname -r` (back quotes)
[12:39] <holger> hi
[12:39] <Jucato> or better yet, just install 'linux-headers-generic"
[12:39] <oOpusOoperandi> Jucato: I did install that one
[12:40] <oOpusOoperandi> with the backspaces
[12:40] <oOpusOoperandi> am I supposed to reboot or something?
[12:40] <oOpusOoperandi> is not showing up
[12:40] <oOpusOoperandi> I already did install it
[12:41] <holger> i have a problem with konsole, if i want to start another konsole with a command. for example: konsole -e "echo hello", this will result in an error:
[12:41] <holger> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11
[12:41] <holger> konsole: WARNING: Unable to open a pseudo teletype!
[12:41] <holger> Uh oh.. can't get terminal attributes..
[12:41] <oOpusOoperandi> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:41] <oOpusOoperandi> that's the line I used
[12:42] <oOpusOoperandi> Jucato: does uname mean the result of MY uname?
[12:42] <oOpusOoperandi> or the file is CALLED with uname at the end?
[12:42] <oOpusOoperandi> I  know uname is a command
[12:42] <Jucato> the uname of the kernel you are currently using
[12:42] <oOpusOoperandi> ahh lol
[12:43] <Jucato> no, the back quotes means that the command inside is executed and then replaced in the line
[12:43] <oOpusOoperandi> so ln -s to my current one?
[12:43] <Jucato> sort of like embedding a command inside a command
[12:43] <Jucato> dunno really. haven't used vmware workstation
[12:44] <oOpusOoperandi> this is my   uname 2.6.20-16-generic
[12:44] <StErGi0s> anyone knows how to use a vodafone mobile connect card under kubuntu?
[12:45] <oOpusOoperandi> ln: invalid option -- r
[12:45] <oOpusOoperandi> what the
[12:54] <oOpusOoperandi> make: *** No rule to make target `oldconfig'.  Stop.
[01:00] <oOpusOoperandi> I don't care
[01:03] <oOpusOoperandi> I am getting this error
[01:03] <oOpusOoperandi> sudo: vmware-install.pl: command not found
[01:03] <mcarthur> Do you mean sudo ./vmware-install.pl?
[01:12] <piumaz> !it
[01:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:14] <PolitikerNEU> !de
[01:14] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:18] <epimeth> anybody here know ASP? I'm trying to write to a file in hebrew but it breaks my script...
[01:19] <_4strO> epimeth: ASP --> berk !
[01:19] <epimeth> _4strO: ???
[01:20] <_4strO> epimeth: asp like active server pages ?
[01:20] <epimeth> _4strO: do you know any other asps?
[01:20] <epimeth> besides the snake of course
[01:21] <happytiger> typing   sudo sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=134217728 at the cmd line set this kernel param for me, then to get that effect on each reboot I need to alter /etc/sysctl.conf. I tried adding " kernel.shmmax=13421772" to it but it didnt work what do I need to type?"
[01:22] <_4strO> epimeth: we never know with 3 letters acronym :p
[01:23] <epimeth> do you want me to show you how I use these???
[01:25] <_4strO> happytiger: think it's about /etc/sysctl.conf
[01:26] <_4strO> argh i didnt read enoiugh
[01:31] <chuen> Hi. I was just upgrading to Feisty using Adept and about half way through got a message that  libqt3 (I think) was 'broken', so the upgrade stopped.
[01:31] <chuen> What's the best thing to do?
[01:32] <julius> so yeah, when i shutdown i get error messages about applications "crashing"
[01:33] <julius> any ideas?
[01:33] <chuen> Jocato: Are you there?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> it's Jucato
[01:35] <chuen> nosrednaekim: Oops :)
[01:35] <chuen> Jucato: Are you there?
[01:36] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: what up amigo?
[01:36] <epimeth> you wouldn't happen to maybe be a web developer, would you?
[01:37] <paolo> > hi, can you suggest me a good linux networking guide? thnks
[01:37] <epimeth> paolo: what, specifically, about networking do you need?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: nope, thankfully
[01:37] <paolo> epimeth: general
[01:38] <epimeth> paolo: that has got to be the single most useless answer I've ever gotten :-) ... what is it you need to know?  there is a *lot* of topics in networking
[01:38] <Gerrit> !fonts
[01:38] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:39] <chuen> Anyone? What should I do if my upgrade was interrupted by broken package msg.
[01:50] <Aattila> Hi! Do anybody know where can be found the configuration files of katapult?
[01:52] <pag> Aattila, ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc   ?
[01:55] <Aattila> pag: I tried this but somehow there's no katapultrc here
[01:56] <pag> Aattila, do you have katapult installed?
[01:58] <Aattila> pag: yes, I'm using it, but when I searched for katapult I get no seach results
[03:43] <ivin> hello all
[03:51] <Ayabara> do you use the default fonts for firefox and thunderbird?
[03:57] <fer> :O
[04:07] <anon32> stupid join floods..
[04:07] <allenuts> #biyj-xdcc
[04:08] <BluesKaj> morning folks :>)
[04:08] <anon32> BluesKaj, here to continue FUDing? ;-)
[04:09] <BluesKaj> nope anon32, I just don't let ppl get away with insults & personal attacks
[04:09] <anon32> not again.... way too early in the morning for this spiel...
[04:10] <BluesKaj> should I say the word "windows" and get flamed  :) ?
[04:10] <anon32> I broke a window the other day
[04:11] <BluesKaj> it's raining here and i have a leaky window ...
[04:11] <anon32> too bad windows are made from that cruddy fiberglass stuff these days
[04:12] <BluesKaj> we' ordered new ones but they haven't arrived yet... custom sizes n all that
[04:13] <BluesKaj> next door neighbour runs tha local Home Hardware and he keeps avoiding me , cuz i keep bugging him to let his son install kubuntu on his pc
[04:15] <jordo23> Does anyone else find that Ktorrent crashes a lot?  It seems Ktorrent crashes every 45 minutes or so...
[04:16] <anon32> jordo23, nope, but then again, I don't use KTorrent
[04:16] <SlimeyPete> jordo23: I use ktorrent  ot and it hasn't crashed once
[04:16] <SlimeyPete> *a lot
[04:16] <anon32> jordo23, try running it in a terminal. Maybe there's some kind of obvious error.
[04:17] <jordo23> anon32: Yeah....will do...
[04:21] <Daisuke-Ido> i leave ktorrent running (quite literally) 24/7 and have had zero crashes
[04:21] <anon32> I leave azureus running 24/7.... it works, but I have to keep adding RAM
[04:22] <jussi01> ktorrent ftw!
[04:25] <zipper> jordo23, i've had it crash many times
[04:25] <zipper> although not nearly every 45 mins
[04:26] <zipper> give uTorrent for linux please =/
[04:26] <jordo23> zipper: It seems to be crashing on a schedule or something, like in intervals every time....testing it now...
[04:26] <zipper> okay
[04:30] <chuen> Hi. I just upgraded from Edy to Feisy. All seem's OK *except* a couple of USB devices don't seem tobe mounting / responding. They show up in Device Manager on ports though.
[04:32] <xrokos> what's the default program for image preview?
[04:32] <xrokos> sth ....view?
[04:32] <jthomas> can anyone tell me why Launchpad won't accept my bug report?  It always says there is 1 error, but doesn't say where.  I have added text to make it acceptable length but it still won't take it.
[04:36] <icecruncher> how can I ener the root password if I'm using sudo?
[04:36] <SlimeyPete> icecruncher: there is no root password unless you set one up
[04:37] <anon32> !root | icecruncher
[04:37] <ubotu> icecruncher: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[04:37] <icecruncher> SlimeyPete: yes, so when an app asks for the root wassword, what should I do?
[04:37] <icecruncher> anon32: I know, thnks
[04:37] <SlimeyPete> icecruncher: quit the app. Then run "sudo passwd" o set a root password, then run the app aan and give it that password.
[04:38] <SlimeyPete> *app again
[04:38] <icecruncher> lol
[04:38] <icecruncher> k
[04:39] <Gerrit> I am having locale problems. My locale is nl_NL.utf-8, but gnumeric (which claims to respect the locale) still interprets "12/6" as 6 December rather than 12 June. What might cause this?
[04:42] <codec>  can someone help me with 3d acceleration on an ati card?
[04:43] <anon32> codec, yes. Maybe.
[04:43] <emonkey-f> !ati
[04:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <emonkey-f> !envy
[04:43] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[04:43] <codec> thank you
[04:50] <chuen> Hi. Can anyone help me out with USB problem after upgrade to Feisty pls?
[04:56] <snake> hi to all
[04:57] <snake> does anyone know any good soft to convert avi to any other format possible that a DVD player can read ??
[04:58] <athena> snake, tovid
[04:58] <athena> but please please please please please don't do that
[05:01] <snake> athena: thank you
[05:02] <athena> snake, might I point out that DVDs suck in general? Use the TV-out on your video card for crying out loud.
[05:02] <flami> Hi, is there a app i can fill out pdf forms with ( best would also be to save them ) . right now i can just view the pdf with ghostview or kpdf
[05:02] <snake> yes i know but in my conditions
[05:02] <snake> i have no other choice
[05:03] <snake> :S
[05:03] <mtv> how would i go about adding hdc and hdd back to my /dev?
[05:03] <athena> flami, probably you need acroread
[05:03] <flami> ok
[05:04] <snake> flami: for saving the pdf
[05:04] <snake> you can use even the print 2 file option in firefox
[05:04] <athena> mtv, with symlinks probably. Why bother?
[05:05] <mtv> athena: well i had a lot of programs setup to detect media on hdd, and hdc.  Those are my dvd drives
[05:05] <athena> mtv, symlink /dev/hdX to /dev/scdX then
[05:05] <athena> or just upgrade your programs
[05:06] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:06] <imlostagain> Hey people. Im a noob so please help me out. :)   ### I got this file on my desktop and i want to install it (its wolfenstein enemy territory) i doubble clik on the icon but nothing happends...... et-linux-2.55.x86.run ### I got an AMD 64 bit machine.
[05:06] <mtv> athena: the latest round of updates got rid of those.  scdx huh
[05:07] <ubuntu__> any boby here to help?
[05:07] <athena> mtv, eh?
[05:07] <athena> they're still here for me..
[05:08] <JuJuBee> When I try to mv *.* ../  from a folder (php manual local copy), It tells me "bash: /bin/mv: Argument list too long", how do I override this?
[05:08] <athena> /dev/scd0, /dev/scd1, etc
[05:08] <mtv> athena: thanks that will also fix my swap issue.  My swap disapeared last night with both those
[05:08] <jthomas> JuJuBee: try mv * ../
[05:08] <athena> mtv, um, I suggest a closer inspection of your system. It sounds b0rk3d
[05:08] <mtv> i just hope those scdx dont dissapear as well
[05:09] <JuJuBee> jthomas : same t hing.
[05:09] <JuJuBee> *thing
[05:09] <mtv> oh tell me about.  I did an aweful thing.  Upgraded dapper-edgy-fiesty one night
[05:09] <jthomas> JuJuBee: otherwise it only moves the files with a dot in them (unlike Windows, Linux files don't need a name.ext
[05:09] <JuJuBee> All files have a dot.
[05:09] <JuJuBee> But I see your point.
[05:09] <athena> JuJuBee, not all files have dots...
[05:09] <athena> /etc/fstab for example
[05:09] <JuJuBee> In this dir...
[05:09] <Gerrit> I configured my locale to be nl_NL.UTF-8, but gnumeric still interprets 'xx/yy' as 'mm/dd' rather than 'dd/mm'. In my previous installation (FC4) it was interpreted as 'dd/mm' like I want to. How can I fix this?
[05:09] <jthomas> JuJuBee: how about mv '*' ../
[05:09] <jthomas> ?
[05:10] <JuJuBee> mv: cannot stat `*': No such file or directory
[05:10] <JuJuBee> There are many files I need to move...
[05:11] <jthomas> can you move up a level?  <<cd ..; mv ___/* .>>
[05:11] <JuJuBee> I got it...
[05:12] <jthomas> what was it?
[05:12] <JuJuBee> mv /php_manual_en/html ./php_manunal
[05:12] <JuJuBee> simpler to rename/move the entire folder.
[05:12] <Gerrit> How do I configure KDE in Kubuntu to scroll through desktops with ctrl+tab?
[05:13] <jthomas> aah, yes, you cannot move a folder without adding the -R (recursive) if you just try to move files/folders all at once
[05:14] <Jucato> Gerrit: System Setttings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:14] <Gerrit> Jucato: Ah, thanks. I was looking at multiple desktop configuration.
[05:16] <JuJuBee> Jucato : any ideas where i might get some assistance getting NIS to work under feisty?  Been trying for over a week now.
[05:16] <Gerrit> That leaves my gnumeric problem then. I'll ask the gnumeric mailing-list.
[05:16] <JuJuBee> Had it working using 6.10.
[05:16] <Jucato> JuJuBee: sorry....
[05:17] <JuJuBee> K
[05:17] <JuJuBee> Other than NIS and LDAP, are there any other centralized authentication options?
[05:19] <mtv> where is power management on kde?
[05:20] <Tm_T> !info kde-guidance-powermanager
[05:20] <ubotu> kde-guidance-powermanager: HAL based Power Manager Applet. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 62 kB, installed size 328 kB
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. what does :(){ :|:& };:  do?
[05:26] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: you know what happens when you next time mention that
[05:26] <mtv> kde-guidance-powermanager was already installed.  I am looking for where i can setup options for power management.
[05:26] <Tm_T> mtv: have you looked around in systemsettings?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  just seen it pasted/ then the guy kickbanned. :) never did actually see/understand what it did.
[05:27] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: well, perhaps you see pattern there then? (;
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  so i found some info on it.  I recall  some discssion about ever growing userscripts/loops/issue like this befor. I forget the fix however.
[05:27] <Tm_T> mtv: I recommend to use search capabilities
[05:28] <mtv> Tm_T: yeah i just thought it would be out there in the open like gnome.   System settings has nothing for hibernate
[05:28] <jacques> je voulais demander quelques chose ici
[05:28] <Tm_T> mtv: if you use searchword "power" ?
[05:28] <Tm_T> !fr | jacques
[05:28] <ubotu> jacques: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:29] <mtv> will do sir
[05:29] <Jucato> nah, the settings for guidance-power-manager is in the app itself.. right-click I think
[05:29] <Jucato> (in the system tray)
[05:30] <mtv> jucato: nothing like that in system tray
[05:30] <Jucato> maybe it's not running, then. is that a laptop?
[05:30] <mtv> desktop
[05:30] <Jucato> ah...
[05:31] <Jucato> try System Settings -> Monitor & Display -> Power tab (I think)
[05:31] <Jucato> g-p-m is only for laptops I believe
[05:32] <mtv> jucato: alright i will checkout kpowersave
[05:33] <livingdaylight> two questions... 1. installed webilder but it doesnt work...2.i have attached vga cable from laptop to external monitor and it isn't working...any help with either would be welcome
[05:33] <Solifugus> How can I make Konqueror show html as html, again?  I had it show a text once.. and cannot change it back.. don't see the normal kde tools on kubuntu
[05:44] <mtv> what is the best usenet program with nzb support for linux
[05:44] <pimpin> i have no sound and i have kubuntu 7.04
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> pimpin: did you turn everything up in the mixer?
[05:45] <pimpin> yeap but still nothing
[05:46] <imagine> pimpin: it's a known issue if you have the sndintel driver
[05:46] <imagine> pimpin: have you upgraded your system to the latest update?
[05:46] <pimpin> yeap what else can i do
[05:46] <imagine> dunno I know there's a ALSA dev that hangs out here ... he helped me out few weeks ago with that... it's an ALSA problem
[05:55] <PsySine> I have problems setting monitor resolution
[05:55] <Dr_willis> read up on the !fixres site yet?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[05:55] <PsySine> I can choose 50,51,52,53,54 Hz
[05:56] <PsySine> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto this one yes
[05:56] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:56] <PsySine> but I know kde is the problem
[05:58] <JuJuBee> How come kubuntu 6.10 is not available for download from kubuntu.org/download.php ?
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> JuJuBee: why do you want edgy?
[06:00] <JuJuBee> Feisty won't work for me (NIS does not work properly)
[06:00] <JuJuBee> I'm sick of fighting with it to get it working.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> http://mirrors.csumb.edu/ubuntu/kubuntu/
[06:00] <JuJuBee> And failing...
[06:01] <Dr_willis> or any of the other mirror sites have it. the links just go to the feisty dir.
[06:02] <JuJuBee> Damn, I just rememberd why I installed feisty on the server.  Edgy won't install (hardware is very new)  Edgy wouldn't install/
[06:11] <a-865> is there an alternative to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats that speaks KDE instead of Gnome?
[06:15] <athena> a-865, um, RestrictedFormats are restricted no matter what your desktop environment is
[06:15] <a-865> athena: page says applications -> add/remove which doesn't exist in KDE menu
[06:15] <athena> a-865, follow the detailed instructions...
[06:15] <athena> alternatively, just install mplayer. It's the only media player that doesn't suck
[06:15] <BluesKaj> a-865, look at the kicker, jus tbelow utilities add/remove -adept
[06:15] <BluesKaj> adept can add and remove programs from your enabled repositories
[06:16] <a-865> adept is running and has found mplayer, but I can't figure out how to get it to install it :-p
[06:17] <BluesKaj> a-865,  highlight the app , click on apply changes
[06:17] <a-865> no context menus exist
[06:17] <a-865> there is no apply changes
[06:17] <MaTiAz> athena: IMO VLC is great too
[06:17] <athena> MaTiAz, uh, VLC fails.
[06:18] <BluesKaj> did you request install , a-865 ?
[06:18] <MaTiAz> athena: Why?
[06:18] <athena> horrible H.264 support, irritating configuration scheme, and no support at all for subtitles
[06:19] <a-865> adept is inept - apt-get is installing mplayer
[06:20] <Gerrit> What's the difference between "Add/Remove Programs" and "System -> Adept Manager"? Are those two different frontends to apt-get?
[06:20] <Gerrit> Hm
[06:20] <Gerrit> No
[06:20] <Gerrit> Never mind
[06:20] <athena> Gerrit, yes. And the only tool you should use is apt-get.
[06:20] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: yes
[06:21] <hagabaka> athena: vlc does support subtitles. research before making claims
[06:21] <fdoving> Gerrit: yes, add/remove programs is a selection of the "most commonly used programs" or something like that, adept manager is more advanced with all those packages and features.
[06:21] <Gerrit> athena: I see
[06:21] <athena> hagabaka, no it doesn't.  That is why I like it, really.
[06:21] <athena> they're the only kind I ever see...
[06:21] <hagabaka> you said "no support for subtitles at all"
[06:21] <athena> Gerrit, true enough
[06:21] <Gerrit> That's the only reason
[06:22] <athena> hagabaka, fine. "crappy support for the only real subtitles".
[06:22] <hagabaka> it has had some support for all types of subtitles i've encountered. only prolematic with substation alpha
[06:22] <athena> it doesn't exactly take a lot of work to support SRT and VOBsub..
[06:22] <hagabaka> and that's only new code
[06:22] <athena> and SSA is ancient
[06:22] <hagabaka> those work for me
[06:23] <nullkuhl> guys, i have a laptop that has 2 speakers and a subwoofer in it,, am currently using the very default drivers of fiesty (alsa).. but when i play something , sound comes out of the speakers only and the subwoofer is not working at all .. plz HELP
[06:23] <athena> hagabaka, they work for me too.  The point is it doesn't play SSA/ASS
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: you ARE old..
[06:24] <Gerrit> The xv image viewr
[06:24] <Gerrit> I am not old
[06:24] <athena> Gerrit, oh... lol
[06:24] <Gerrit> But it's fast
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[06:24] <Gerrit> It's faster than Image Magick
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Heh - xv sort of shot itself in the foot with its licensing. so out came a dozen+ replacements.
[06:25] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: well, old to linux I mean
[06:25] <Dr_willis> wine irfanview.exe
[06:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:25] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: Yes
[06:25] <athena> lol, I actually tried using irfanview in wine... speaking of slow..
[06:25] <hagabaka> athena: i'm not a one-sided supporter for any alternative media player; i'm just critical of your tone
[06:25] <Dr_willis> i never notifed it being slow.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> It shows images...  what speed does it need. heh
[06:25] <damageDOne> Hi, If I'm not using a usbdisk but it won't eject because it says it's busy, what do I do?
[06:25] <athena> hagabaka, .....
[06:26] <nullkuhl> nosrednaekim: yea
[06:26] <athena> this isn't on topic anyway, but the point is that VLC has a bunch of usability flaws
[06:26] <nosrednaekim> damageDOne: do you have a window with it open?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> everything has usability flaws
[06:26] <damageDOne> No
[06:26] <athena> Dr_willis, "hello" has no usability flaws
[06:27] <Dr_willis> athena,  it would to a chinease speaker. :)
[06:27] <Gerrit> Apart from programs like Skype and Google Earth, xv is the only program that I couldn't install by apt-get install
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: right click on the mixer window and select channels. Make sure all channels in that list are enabled
[06:27] <Gerrit> Heh: "Note: if you're going to try compiling this on RedHat Linux 6, READ THIS FIRST.  You'll be glad you did."
[06:27] <athena> Dr_willis, ...
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Gerrit,  theres unofficial repos with googleearth and skype packages I thought.
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> yeah it does... ever heard someone say "hello?" in a very mean tone? ;)
[06:27] <damageDOne> nosrednaekim: ... but I was in the drive in the CLI. I just backed out of it and now it works. Cheers
[06:28] <Gerrit> Dr_willis: Oh cool
[06:28] <nullkuhl> nosrednaekim: yes its all selected and enabled
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> damageDOne: k
[06:28] <Gerrit> I installed them already anyway
[06:28] <damageDOne> nosrednaekim: Had no idea that would happen.
[06:29] <jthomas> has anyone installed the newer LinuxMCE on Kubuntu 7.04?  any bugs?  is it difficult to set up?  can a net-boot PC be used to record TV shows?
[06:29] <athena> say, where's xv's homepage?
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> nullkuhl: no clue then..... go to #alsa?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> jthomas,  i think that MCE thing is very much a work in progress. :) they may have an official channel .
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> jthomas: no experience with LInuxMCE, but MythTV can do all those
[06:30] <jthomas> hmm i'll check into that, thanks Dr_willis
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Using MythTV here at the moment on my 2nd Ubuntu machine
[06:30] <jthomas> nosrednaekim: yes i think they're kinda the same code base, but not sure i guess
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> jthomas: mythTV is pretty good, but it may not be easy to set up.
[06:45] <alex> jukato i stil havent fix the problem
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i find mythtv easy to set up.. now that i spent a lot of time learning it. :)
[06:45] <alex> do u remember me from yesterday?
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> alex: its Jucato.
[06:47] <Jucato> O.o
[06:47] <alex> sr
[06:47] <Jucato> not quite. sorry... have a lot on my mind lately
[06:47] <Jucato> how can I help?
[06:47] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: he didn't desert.. he's back!
[06:47] <alex> do u rember my problem?
 not quite. sorry... have a lot on my mind lately
[06:48] <asaup> anyone using tovid here
[06:48] <athena> uh, nope
[06:49] <alex> can you remind where i have to write big scripts?
[06:49] <a-865> error opening/initializing the selected video_out device :-(
[06:49] <athena> asaup, I'm right here. Stop messaging me
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:50] <athena> a-865, are you using the GUI? open the settings and under video, change the driver to xv.
[06:50] <daquino> where is the sources helper ... there was a url were you could add a bunch of sources and get a list
[06:50] <menencia> hi; can someone help me on commands about unzip a file to a specific destination?
[06:50] <a-865> athena: it was on mga :-p
[06:50] <athena> lol
[06:50] <athena> yeah, there's a bug about that actually
[06:51] <athena> menencia, sure
[06:51] <athena> "man unzip"
[06:52] <a-865> athena: changing it to xv didn't help
[06:52] <menencia> man unzip? what means?
[06:52] <menencia> xD
[06:52] <hackers> ya des franais?
[06:52] <menencia> oui
[06:52] <menencia> lol
[06:52] <hackers> doit pas y en avoir bcp XD
[06:52] <kharloss> hi, i have a problem  i have a sis900 pci Lan card, but isn`t recognized by my kubuntu. if i "lspci" output contain an entry "01:07.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS900 PCI Fast Et                        hernet (rev 02)
[06:52] <kharloss> any solution ?
[06:52] <menencia> mouais..
[06:52] <alex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26142/
[06:52] <athena> a-865, do you still get "error initializing blah blah blah"?
[06:53] <a-865> athena: yes, exact same error
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> menencia: it gives you the manual page for unzip
[06:53] <athena> a-865, tried restarting mplayer? and if xv doesn't work, use x11
[06:53] <Jucato> !adeptfix | alex
[06:53] <ubotu> alex: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: and ifconfig doesn't give you anything?
[06:53] <menencia> ok
[06:53] <kharloss> i have two network cards
[06:54] <kharloss> just one appear
[06:54] <a-865> athena: that worked :-)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> appears where?
[06:54] <kharloss> just eth0 is shown
[06:54] <daquino> help....
[06:54] <daquino> isn' there a source wizard ?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> source wizard?
[06:54] <athena> a-865, hehe, brief explanation of outputs. xv draws the video directly onto the screen, i.e. fast. x11 tells X to draw the video, i.e. slow. gl/gl2 uses openGL to draw the video, i.e. fast :-)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[06:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: and does if config show you two devices>
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[06:55] <kharloss> just eth0 and lo
[06:55] <a-865> athena: system has cheap old video card
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> try "ifconfig eth1 up"
[06:55] <athena> a-865, ah, it might not support xv then
[06:55] <daquino> thank you!
[06:55] <athena> is it one of those no-name ones?
[06:55] <kharloss> ifconfig eth1 up
[06:55] <kharloss> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> xv is faster than GL though
[06:56] <athena> nosrednaekim, not in all situations
[06:56] <athena> if you need to transform the video, GL is faster.
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: but that command didn't return an error?
[06:56] <a-865> athena: 10 year old rage pro agp
[06:56] <kharloss> what command ?
[06:56] <athena> a-865, oh, that should actually have xv, but if x11 works, oh well :-)
[06:57] <alex> stil nothink
[06:57] <kharloss> ifconfig eth1 up ?   return "eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: ok, well... hmmm.
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> kharloss: search google for that chip and linux
[06:57] <alex> it shows the same problem
[06:57] <a-865> athena: 11 year old kid's puter anyway
[06:57] <athena> hehe
[06:58] <Dr_willis> sounds like the module for the other nic isent loaded
[06:58] <a-865> athena: only reason I installed feisty was could figure out how to get sound to work with normal user instead of just root after pulling ISA sound card and installing PCI sound card
[06:59] <athena> a-865, ah
[06:59] <a-865> athena: only reason I installed feisty was I could'nt figure out in breezy how to get sound to work with normal user instead of just root after pulling ISA sound card and installing PCI sound card
[06:59] <athena> uh.... don't repeat. Especially something that long.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> he fixed a typo. :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis> so it MADE sence! :)
[06:59] <athena> haha
[06:59] <a-865> major typo :-p
[07:03] <balaji> my speakers dont appear to blow in full volume what should i do to customize them?
[07:03] <athena> balaji, um, use the volume control?
[07:03] <frojnd> does Bluez works with 2.0 adapteres?
[07:03] <athena> also, that's not good for your ears..
[07:04] <dhq> i have infrared on my pc which module do i use
[07:04] <balaji> athena its not that simple
[07:04] <balaji> i mean i am not getting the right performance
[07:04] <athena> balaji, try using alsamixer to tweak it some more then
[07:05] <balaji> got it thanks
[07:05] <frojnd> anyone?
[07:05] <beardbar> after i installed i changed my xorg.conf file, now i get a blank screen, so i popped in my kubuntu disk to boot in to safe mode so i can restore my backup, but no dice, it just sticks at loading when i select any option from the boot loader.
[07:07] <tristan_> Hey, could anynody tell me how to enable scanning on my lexmark x1270 printer
[07:11] <tgrotan> c
[07:11] <_Shade_> hi there
[07:12] <_Shade_> how can i change the kdm login theme?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> !kdm
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <r3d5h1ft> System Settings -> Login manager
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm theres a tool that can change the KDM theme.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> not sure its installed by defaut
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !find kdmtheme
[07:14] <ubotu> Found: kdmtheme
[07:14] <Dr_willis> !info kdmtheme
[07:14] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 103 kB, installed size 268 kB
[07:14] <a-865> _Shade_: did u try in kdmrc to set UseTheme=No?
[07:15] <daquino> can kaffien play ms media player  formats ?
[07:15] <_Shade_> a-865: no i didn't...should I?
[07:15] <a-865> _Shade_: try it first, it's my fav
[07:15] <a-865> looks just like KDE :)
[07:16] <_Shade_> Dr_willis: that's it, thanks
[07:16] <_Shade_> a-865: but i don't want to disable it :)
[07:16] <a-865> _Shade_: I'll be u don't even know what the default KDE theme looks like
[07:16] <a-865> _Shade_: that's how u find out
[07:17] <a-865> _Shade_: the distro's default theme makes KDM look like GDM
[07:17] <bene> where are the apt repositories located?
[07:18] <athena> bene, archive.ubuntu.com
[07:18] <bene> on the file system
[07:18] <bene> the list
[07:18] <NaAzZ> question : its possible to write on windows partition with livecd ??  i tryed , but cant ( sry for english )
[07:21] <daquino> what is the kubuntu-desktop package ?
[07:21] <NaAzZ> last
[07:21] <NaAzZ> but i try to write on ntfs part
[07:21] <NaAzZ> without succes
[07:21] <daquino> i just installed mplayer and this thing removed kde and kubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <menencia> another probleme : no sound under kunbuntu T_T
[07:22] <alex> jucato can you help me?
[07:23] <tema> 3263+2+6666666666666666+6+82+2+92+2+92+
[07:24] <crowbar> daquino: kubuntu-desktop is a "meta" package.  It only contains references to other packages.   You only need it when upgrade to a new release.  Your system will continue to function normally without it.
[07:25] <daquino> crowbar:  but why is kde and kde-core not installed now ?
[07:27] <a-865> I can now play mp3 and mpeg with mplayer, but nothing wants to open a music CD :(
[07:27] <daquino> crowbar:  how could kde possiblly show up as not installed in the list
[07:27] <crowbar> daquino: those aren't installed for me either and i have kubuntu-desktop installed.
[07:27] <blekos> is there a way to use aptitude install for multiple packages eg. firestarter, superkaramba etc?
[07:28] <daquino> crowbar:  so where does kde come from ?
[07:28] <crowbar> daquino: kdebase
[07:28] <a-865> konq sees that it is a music CD, but won't show any files on it
[07:29] <BluesKaj> a-865, have you tried amarok ?
[07:29] <a-865> BluesKaj: I removed kaffeine and amarok in order to have mplayer do everything
[07:30] <BluesKaj> amarok runs circles around mplayer when it comes to music
[07:30] <frojnd> does anyone here know if BLUEZ stack works with USB 2.0 adapters ????
[07:31] <a-865> eventually something ejects the music CD after nothing opens it :(
[07:33] <a-865> I guess I'll just have to tell the kid to use windoz when she wants to play music :(
[07:33] <BluesKaj> why would you reject amarok in favour or mplayer ...I'm not telling what you should do , but I'm just curious ?
[07:33] <a-865> Windoz Media player plays everything simply and easily, which is what I would expect of something named MPlayer on Linux
[07:33] <BluesKaj> in favour of mplayer
[07:34] <BluesKaj> a-865, wrong
[07:34] <daquino> you can play any music file now i think in linux
[07:35] <a-865> I can now play mp3 and mpeg with mplayer, but nothing wants to open a music CD :(
[07:35] <a-865> really dumb
[07:35] <daquino> wtf are you talking about
[07:35] <llutz> a-865: you better use win, but u can try mplayer cdda://
[07:35] <dthacker> a-865: kscd
[07:36] <daquino> of course you can play a music scd
[07:36] <a-865> dthacker: there is no kscd in my kde menus
[07:37] <a-865> Windoz Media Player is smart enuf to play a music CD. Why isn't MPlayer smart enuf to play a music CD?
[07:38] <dthacker> a-865: pop open adept and pull it down.   bbl
[07:38] <llutz> a-865: why don't you stopp asking stupid questions? join the mplayer-team and help to improve it
[07:38] <BluesKaj> amarok will play cds ... a-865,  who told you mplayer was the only player to use with windows media ?...cuz whoever told you that or if it's an asumption on your part , it's wrong
[07:38] <a-865> BluesKaj: All I know is WMP will play music CDs
[07:39] <a-865> simplicity for the kid - one player for all standard media is a not unrealistic expectation
[07:39] <BluesKaj> a-865, welcome to linux where youcanuse up 10 differnt players if you want, not just one
[07:39] <llutz> BluesKaj: don't feed the troll, it's not worse
[07:39] <llutz> worth
[07:40] <a-865> fine - let everybody else use 10 tons of software to do 3 jobs
[07:40] <a-865> I'm not trolling
[07:40] <BluesKaj> windows is not std media
[07:40] <a-865> I'd like to know how linux can have come so far and still be so near impossible to use. I've been 15 hours on this install just because of a sound card.
[07:41] <athena> a-865, we trolling? what's the issue?
[07:41] <BluesKaj> a-865, you are ignoring perfectly good advice with inane answers
[07:41] <joseph> can anyone help me ?
[07:41] <athena> !ask | joseph
[07:41] <ubotu> joseph: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <joseph> im triying to set up a samba network
[07:41] <a-865> I read somewhere that upgrading *buntu 2 versions was not recommended, so did a fresh install instead of an upgrade
[07:42] <joseph> and when i try to connect to my pc it says error : sucess
[07:42] <athena> a-865, cmon, let's all be friends. What's your question?
[07:42] <a-865> athena: can or cannot mplayer play a music CD?
[07:42] <llutz> a-865: once more (last time): mplayer cdda://
[07:42] <athena> a-865, it can. As far as I know at least.
[07:43] <athena> mplayer cdda://<device> I think. Maybe even mplayer /dev/cdrom
[07:43] <a-865> athena: well I have mplayer playing mp3 and mpeg files, but nothing wants to open a music CD
[07:43] <BluesKaj> llutz, yer right ...it actually sounds like a bot answering , not a troll.... a broken record ,we used to call it  :)
[07:43] <daquino> where would i setup the hotkeys ?
[07:43] <athena> a-865, forget it. We've already given you the answer....
[07:43] <joseph> how do i setup NFS on kubuntu ?
[07:43] <llutz> BluesKaj: 400GB space for ignore-files :)
[07:43] <athena> !nfs | joseph
[07:44] <ubotu> joseph: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:44] <r3d5h1ft> I continue to have problems with Azureus under Feisty. I can get the splash screen every time; after that, however, the application window shows up for maybe 2 seconds, then disappears forever.
[07:44] <joseph> !nfs
[07:44] <a-865> mplayer /dev/cdrom; playing /dev/cdrom; seek failed; exiting (end of file)
[07:44] <BluesKaj> llutz, I think i might turn the ignore switch on ... i don't like doing it but i get the feeling it'
[07:45] <BluesKaj>  it's almost time
[07:45] <athena> a-865, what about mplayer cdda:// ?
[07:45] <athena> BluesKaj, ignoring people isn't good. Then you get interesting conversation gaps.
[07:45] <llutz> athena: forget it, he ignores all answers and keeps trolling
[07:45] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: shutdown azureus, delete all files in ~/.azureus/logs
[07:45] <BluesKaj> hehe ..well athena your patience is certainly remarkable :)
[07:45] <a-865> athena: that sorta worked briefly, then the CD ejected
[07:46] <r3d5h1ft> groovy, i'll try that
[07:46] <athena> huh..
[07:46] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: works for me atleast :)
[07:46] <athena> you sure your CD drive isn't broken? but it's lunch break for me, so I'm out
[07:46] <a-865> athena: same CD drive I installed feisty from
[07:47] <Assid> nfs rocks
[07:47] <a-865> BluesKaj: your advice seems to be install 10 apps to do 3 jobs
[07:48] <daquino> i turned off the device desktop feature and devices still show up
[07:49] <BluesKaj> err, my advice is there are many options...why restrict yourself to just one that is actually meant for video, and then complain about it :)
[07:50] <a-865> BluesKaj: why should a child need more than one media player?
[07:50] <a-865> BluesKaj: is there  no Linux media player that will do the 3 majors - mp3, mpeg, music CD?
[07:50] <r3d5h1ft> Hmm, still having trouble with azureus... Deleting the logs helped, but it still vanished (after about 30 seconds this time).
[07:50] <joseph> how do i fix the error sucess when triying to share files between my xbox and computer ?
[07:51] <n8k99_> a-865: try installing restricted codecs- then use any player
[07:52] <BluesKaj> a-865, do listen to the radio thru yer tv ?
[07:52] <n8k99_> a-865 do you read the newspaper with your toaster
[07:52] <a-865> BluesKaj: my only radio is satellite - same speakers as TV
[07:52] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: whats the error youre getting?
[07:53] <r3d5h1ft> no error message... the azureus windows just "goes away" after a short period of time
[07:53] <a-865> n8k99_: my toaster over makes all kinds of food - it isn't picky
[07:53] <a-865> n8k99_: my toaster oven makes all kinds of food - it isn't picky
[07:54] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: try starting it from a console
[07:54] <n8k99_> yet it does not make newspapers more readable
[07:54] <flami> Hi , i just installed my printer and the cups testpage is perfect , however if i print something in KDE ( tried kghostview , firefox , OO ) the "image" is set too far to the to right , so im missing parts. anyway i can correct that ?
[07:54] <r3d5h1ft> notlabled: how would one do that?
[07:54] <r3d5h1ft> sudo start azureus?
[07:54] <a-865> n8k99_: my car takes me where I want to go - it isn't picky about where I want to go
[07:54] <r3d5h1ft> (i'm obviously new here)
[07:55] <r3d5h1ft> haha
[07:55] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: no, just type azureus, it should be in your path
[07:55] <r3d5h1ft> alright, i can do that
[07:55] <joseph> how do i enable beryl ??
[07:55] <BluesKaj> ic , so sat radio is it ,no other options ... interesting pov , a-865
[07:55] <a-865> n8k99_: my web browser takes me where I want to go - it isn't picky about whether the site is crap from M$ Front Page or made by someone who knows how to build a standards compliant site
[07:55] <n8k99_> a-865: the toaster oven and the car have different functions- just like teh video player and teh audio player
[07:56] <flami> seems as if KDE ignores margins
[07:56] <n8k99_> a-865: carry thhis discussion over into #kubuntu-offtopic if you like
[07:56] <a-865> my TV doesn't car if the source is satellite or cabul or DSL or DVD player
[07:57] <a-865> it seems my real problem is feisty doesn't like my CD ROM drive
[07:57] <DarthFrog> Ribbet!
[07:57] <a-865> breezy didn't seem to have a problem with it
[07:57] <r3d5h1ft> okay, i'm getting two errors from X (BadDevice, invalid input device 169)
[07:57] <r3d5h1ft> but they show up during the splash screen phase
[07:58] <r3d5h1ft> then nothing comes up when the window disappears
[07:58] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: hmm, perhaps you have to enable debugging, let me check
[07:58] <joseph> how can i enable beryl with kubuntu ?
[07:58] <r3d5h1ft> wait, those errors aren't specific to azureus
[07:58] <r3d5h1ft> i get them when opening kate too
[07:58] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: i know
[07:59] <DarthFrog> Can anyone tell me how to force Kmail to use Kwallet?  Yesterday, Kmail launched and asked for a password to open Kwallet.  I didn't want to do a mail run (wanted to upgrade to Feisty), so I cancelled.  Now, it doesn't use Kwallet anymore, asks for individual passwords for each account.
[07:59] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: those are due to x not finding a drawing board, which ubuntu is configured to, (i think) :)
[08:01] <r3d5h1ft> notlabled: i just noticed that a .log file was created when i tried to open it again
[08:01] <r3d5h1ft> in ~/.azureus
[08:01] <a-865> n8k99_: apt-get install restricted codecs; E: Couldn't find package restricted-codecs
[08:01] <joseph> how do i enable beryl ?
[08:01] <n8k99_> !codecs
[08:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:02] <vonderer> hi there. %)
[08:02] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: yeah, those are created upon start
[08:02] <vonderer> I've got a stupid problem %)
[08:02] <vonderer> I seem to be unable to remember the name of a system monitor I once used %)
[08:02] <crdlb> !beryl | joseph
[08:02] <ubotu> joseph: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> notlabled:
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> An unexpected exception has been detected in native code outside the VM.
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> Unexpected Signal : 4 occurred at PC=0x0
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> Function=[Unknown.]
[08:02] <r3d5h1ft> Library=(N/A)
[08:03] <r3d5h1ft> oops, that should have been in one line
[08:03] <r3d5h1ft> sorry
[08:03] <a-865> n8k99_: I was there b4 I came here
[08:03] <a-865> n8k99_: it said install lib* and *cod* so that's what I did
[08:03] <n8k99_> so did you install the restricted codecs by following those directions?
[08:04] <athena> vonderer, conky? gkrellm?
[08:05] <vonderer> athena, conky works from the terminal?
[08:05] <n8k99_> a-865: so can you play mp3 yet?
[08:05] <athena> vonderer, oh? so I guess it's not conky then
[08:06] <vonderer> athena, thanks a lot. :) Going to check this out :)
[08:06] <vonderer> yeah, that one :)
[08:06] <vonderer> good bye
[08:06] <a-865> n8k99_: AFAIK, but there were a lot of installs and a lot of directions and I don't remember the whole sequence, nor even a significant portion thereof. If I knew how to get apt-let to list installed packages the way rpm does than I could find out if restricted codecs are already installed. As I've already said several times here, mplayer is succesfully playing mp3 and mpeg files, but not...
[08:07] <a-865> ...playing a music CD. Fiesty apparently does not like my CD drive.
[08:07] <morph_> hello all
[08:07] <n8k99_> a-865 try another application
[08:07] <n8k99_> a-865 just perhaps its not feisty but mplayer
[08:07] <a-865> n8k99_:  in order to install feisty I had to use ide=nodma and irqpoll
[08:07] <morph_> wow just got beryl and kiba dock working
[08:08] <morph_> looks awesome
[08:08] <a-865> n8k99_: I had to hdparm -d0 /dev/hdd
[08:08] <a-865> n8k99_: without that the whole desktop freezes up
[08:08] <steffen> i have installed apache2,php and mysql and then restarted my computer. but i cant see the website. help?
[08:09] <th1> Hi, in Kubuntu 7.04 I have set up a wireless ethernet connection with KNetworkManager. but it asks for the Wallet password each time I log in. Is it possible to set it up "system wide" so it doesn't prompt, and also so it connects to the network before I log in?
[08:09] <n8k99_> a-865: ok- not sure of what relevance that has to playing your cd
[08:09] <n8k99_> a-865: if you do then i'm not who you want to talk to
[08:09] <notlabled> r3d5h1ft: i guess i have no clue. you might try downloading the latest azureus from their site, i think they might have fixed this bug. Atleast the "log" bug
[08:09] <morph_> having a problem when booting up
[08:10] <r3d5h1ft> notlabled: thanks a lot, i'll do just that
[08:10] <Ze_M> ?
[08:10] <morph_> says kinit trying to resume from
[08:10] <Ze_M> whats the bit name
[08:10] <Ze_M> bot*
[08:11] <morph_> then it says No resume images, doing normal boot
[08:11] <morph_> hangs there for a bit,  anyone know hwy?
[08:11] <morph_> why
[08:11] <Ze_M> whats the bot name?
[08:12] <BluesKaj> !kinit
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kinit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <BluesKaj> !init
[08:13] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:16] <waltercool> Hi there... someone know how open real videos?
[08:17] <Blissex> waltercool: look for the prioritary/binary formats page on the Wiki
[08:17] <Ze_M> !ssh
[08:17] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[08:18] <waltercool> Blissex: seeking...
[08:19] <waltercool> Blissex: I have propietary drivers..., but i have a lib problem with xine
[08:19] <BluesKaj> waltercool, you could DL and install real player for linux,  http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&am
[08:20] <waltercool> BluesKaj: But works me too slow
[08:20] <waltercool> BluesKaj: Appear be a gnome app
[08:21] <BluesKaj> no it's for kde and gnome
[08:21] <flami> im trying to change the margins of my printer , they are 0 , and i cant seem to change them, when i change them the values are not saved , when i print a cups testpage its perfect , when i something in KDE its in the top right border ( and missing stuff )
[08:22] <waltercool> BluesKaj: I have installed RealPlayer10 Gold... but videos have a 5 seconds of frameskip :S (very slow)
[08:23] <Blissex> waltercool: look at whether your X video driver supports Xvideo.
[08:23] <waltercool> Blissex: Where i can see that?
[08:23] <BluesKaj> waltercool, what aboutvideos other than realmedia ?
[08:24] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg too, xine-extracodecs
[08:24] <fusiogen> yo les frenchy
[08:24] <fusiogen> !fr
[08:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:24] <waltercool> BluesKaj: I have it... and dont works
[08:25] <BluesKaj> waltercool, what about dvd ?
[08:25] <waltercool> dvd?
[08:25] <BluesKaj> do dvds play ?
[08:25] <waltercool> yes
[08:28] <daquino> whats backports ?
[08:28] <waltercool> is rarely... because i have direct accel
[08:30] <Quack> how can i get drivers for my 9600xt ati card ?
[08:31] <arkaikon> mmm i have problems with teh same card
[08:31] <Quack> just doesnt work ?
[08:32] <arkaikon> in 3 years i never have 3d aceleration on linux
[08:32] <arkaikon> red hat, suse 10.2, ubuntu 6.10, kubuntu 7.06 ubuntu 7.10
[08:33] <BluesKaj> ok gents with ATI cards, check this out : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[08:33] <arkaikon> but i dont search modes to run it in 1 year.... maybe now yes can run it
[08:33] <waltercool> i have direct rendering... (fglrx)
[08:34] <hdwow> Hi. The vlc firefox plugin just crashed and did something to my firefox profile that means KDE's "Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications" no longer affects firefox's menu fonts. It did before. What could have happened? Thanks.
[08:34] <BluesKaj> arkaikon, the above tutorial give 3D on feisty , run google earh etc to your heart's content :)
[08:35] <Jabapyth> how do I access a printer through samba?
[08:36] <Ze_M> if im ssh in remote host, to copy a file from remote to local host i would have to run: scp file <my_ip>:/home/user    correct?
[08:37] <Gerrit> How can I get a list of installed packages by install date?
[08:37] <BluesKaj> Jabapyth, sys/settings/printers/add printer/ ...the printer wizard will pop up ..samba runs the cups app for printing
[08:38] <Jabapyth> BluesKaj: is that a file path? (sys/settings...)
[08:38] <BluesKaj> hdwow, the vlc plugin is buggy on feisty ... my experience told me to dump the plugin , but keep the player
[08:38] <athena> BluesKaj, that howto is ridiculously out of date
[08:39] <athena> and yes, the VLC browser plugin is not for general video playback, use mplayer-plugin instead
[08:39] <BluesKaj> err athena ...it works
[08:39] <hdwow> BluesKaj: yes, i've uninstalled the plugin, and am now looking to fix the damage it caused.
[08:40] <BluesKaj> hdwow, perhaps a relogin or reboot ?
[08:40] <athena> BluesKaj, actually, it won't work since it's missing the step where you link /lib/blah/volatile/fglrx.ko with /lib/blah/misc/fglrx.ko
[08:40] <hdwow> ok, i was hoping it wouldn't come to that, but i'll try.
[08:40] <athena> hdwow, the damage? vlc plugin is 1 file with no permanent settings...
[08:40] <BluesKaj> that's odd athena , since it solved my #D and DRI prob :)
[08:41] <BluesKaj> 3D
[08:41] <athena> guides like that have never worked for me, go figure :-
[08:41] <athena> I'm just using the free driver, since fglrx permanently broke for me when I tried to enable dual head
[08:42] <coreymon77> gi guys
[08:42] <coreymon77> hi*
[08:42] <Jabapyth> BluesKaj, how do I get to add printer?
[08:42] <coreymon77> i updated my nvidia dirvers with the restricted manager
[08:42] <coreymon77> and ever since i did, hibernate stopped working
[08:42] <coreymon77> how can i change it back
[08:42] <athena> coreymon77, uh... by downgrading?
[08:42] <hdwow> success! thank you, a relogin worked!
[08:42] <coreymon77> bw\how?
[08:42] <athena> or just disable hibernate, it's useless anyway
[08:43] <coreymon77> not for me
[08:43] <coreymon77> i like it
[08:43] <athena> coreymon77, force a package version using adept/apt-get/synaptic
[08:43] <coreymon77> cant i jsut reset it
[08:43] <coreymon77> i had the default driver before
[08:43] <athena> .......
[08:43] <coreymon77> cant i just reset it?
[08:44] <athena> what does that even mean?
[08:44] <BluesKaj> athena, I didn't use the tutorial's xorg.conf file ... but i did a side by side and edited what made sense for my setup
[08:44] <coreymon77> athena, reset the driver back to default
[08:44] <Gerrit> How can I find when a package was installed with dpkg/adept/apt-get/synaptic?
[08:44] <Assid> err. is there a jigdo image for kubuntu CD ?
[08:44] <athena> BluesKaj, every time I followed one of those, the fglrx kernel module wouldn't load... and then DRI wouldn't work because of that
[08:45] <BluesKaj> bummer athena , what card ?
[08:45] <athena> coreymon77, ...didn't you just say you installed a new version? that means you have to downgrade using the package manager...........
[08:45] <athena> X300
[08:46] <dromer> hi all, somehow I can't get nvidia-settings to twinview to my 2nd monitor. It definetly sees the monitor and it's type/settings, but when I extend, or do cinerama, it does nothing. when I put the monitor to another port it works
[08:46] <Assid> whats the alternate install cd for ?
[08:46] <BluesKaj> wow, and mine's an elcheapo onboars X200G ... like you say , go figure, athena :(
[08:46] <athena> Assid, proper installation
[08:46] <Assid> and whats the desktop cd then ?
[08:47] <athena> for testing and fixing b0rk3d systems?
[08:47] <Assid> eh ? so i need the alternate one ?
[08:47] <athena> well no, you can use the desktop to install too, but the alternate is a better choice
[08:47] <athena> especially if you need custom mount points or you have low RAM
[08:48] <Assid> okay.. so good..
[08:49] <Assid> now i can use the dvd image i downloiaded before
[08:49] <athena> was that a question?
[08:49] <Assid> nah
[08:49] <coreymon77> athena: do, how do i revert back to waht i was
[08:49] <coreymon77> athena: i was probably using the nvidia or the nonfree thing
[08:50] <Assid> i had downloaded the dVD image of kubuntu.. but my lappy doesnt have a dvd rom.. so now i was gonna sit and dl the cd version.. but i didnt know whether i need the alternate or desktop
[08:50] <Assid> which is why i was soo confused
[08:50] <Assid> i asked earlier.. but no one responded.. so its been downloading ever since
[08:50] <athena> hehe
[08:50] <coreymon77> Assid: do you have atleast 256mb of ram
[08:50] <coreymon77> ?
[08:50] <athena> coreymon77, we already figured it out, but thanks
[08:50] <coreymon77> oh
[08:51] <athena> coreymon77, so, maybe I'm misunderstanding your question. What was your system like before the b0rk4ge happened? and what's it like now?
[08:51] <Assid> yeah.. the machine im going to instrall it on.. yes.. it has 768MB
[08:51] <athena> as a side note, the alternate starts up faster :-P
[08:51] <Assid> so the desktop disc is just a live cd ?
[08:51] <athena> yeah, with an installer tacked on
[08:51] <snake> i do not have the admin button in kde theme manager in feisty. can anyone help me with this ? its so strange
[08:52] <Assid> how come there is no jigdo for that ?
[08:52] <athena> no idea, I don't use jigdo
[08:52] <athena> wget's fast enough for me :-P
[08:52] <coreymon77> athena: before hand i was just using the normal, basic nvidia driver provided by kubuntu, recently i used restricted-manager to install the actual nvidia binary driver
[08:52] <Rami> hi
[08:52] <Rami> i need help
[08:52] <athena> coreymon77, so, you want to go back to the unaccelerated one, right?
[08:52] <coreymon77> athena: i want to switch back to the way it was before
[08:52] <snake> i do not have the admin button in kde theme manager in feisty. can anyone help me with this ? its so strange
[08:53] <athena> just uncheck "proprietary nvidia driver" or whatever in the restricted manager
[08:53] <coreymon77> oaky
[08:53] <athena> !repeat | snake
[08:53] <ubotu> snake: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:53] <Rami> I installed kubuntu but KDE isnt running:(
[08:53] <Rami> only GNOME
[08:53] <athena> Rami, eh? you have to choose KDE at the login screen
[08:53] <athena> hit the "change session" button
[08:53] <Rami> ok,,,,
[08:53] <Rami> i'm logging out again then
[08:54] <BluesKaj> Rami, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <athena> BluesKaj, he already has KDE, try reading first? :-P
[08:54] <BluesKaj> athena, FYI , the fglrx driver in that tutorial is a modded and patched to work with ATI cards on feisty ... I really think you should give it a chance.
[08:55] <Rami_> I appreciate your help
[08:55] <athena> BluesKaj, modded or not, that howto does not mention a symlink to fix driver not found issues so I don't trust it
[08:55] <athena> besides, I'm tired of fglrx's shit
[08:55] <BluesKaj> ok , fine athena , have it your way
[08:55] <rathel> What is Konqueror using to play embeded WMV files, and how do I get that in Firefox? I've tried both the VLC and Kaffeine plugin for firefox, and they won't play.
[08:55] <Rami_> ty athena!
[08:56] <BluesKaj> Rami, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:56] <athena> rajib__, Konqueror is probably using kaffiene, which uses Xine.
[08:56] <athena> rathel, ^^ *
[08:56] <athena> rathel, use the mplayer plugin... apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:56] <Rami_> no, i fixed it now
[08:57] <Rami_> thanks anyway
[08:57] <rathel> athena: Okay thanks I'll try that.
[08:57] <athena> oh yeah, you should grab w32codecs if you don't have it
[08:57] <athena> back to movie.... but send me a message if you actually need me
[08:58] <blekos> amarok doesnt play mp3 could u help me
[08:59] <BluesKaj> blekos, xine-extracodecs
[08:59] <athena> blekos, apt-get install libxine1-extracodecs
[08:59] <blekos> ok thnx
[08:59] <athena> or apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg if you're on feisty
[09:00] <Rami_> how can i make 4 desktops?
[09:00] <BluesKaj> ok bbl
[09:00] <athena> Rami_, explain
[09:00] <Rami_> not really the GNOME way
[09:00] <Rami_> but you know where ther stand 1 and 2
[09:01] <athena> Rami_, ok.. you want more workspaces right? in GNOME or in KDE?
[09:01] <blekos> E: Couldn't find package libxine1-extracodecs
[09:01] <Rami_> in KDE
[09:01] <athena> !repository | blekos
[09:01] <ubotu> blekos: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:01] <athena> you need to enable some extra repositories
[09:01] <sharir> what mail prog to use in kubuntu ?
[09:01] <athena> Rami_, shouldn't there already be 4? in the pager somewhere in the bottom-right corner?
[09:01] <Rami_> nope!
[09:02] <Rami_> only 1 and 2
[09:02] <athena> can you right click it and change that? I don't use KDE, sorry :-\
[09:02] <Rami_> aah i dont care...
[09:03] <waylandbill> you should be able to right click just about anything anywhere. That's one of the standardized things with a kde based app.
[09:04] <justin123558> I have a dumb question about Amarok.  I switched to the mini player window and I have no clue how to get back to the regular window.  Anyone that can help?
[09:05] <athena> justin123558, hit the playlist button
[09:06] <justin123558> Wow, athena, now I truly feel like a tard.
[09:06] <justin123558> Thank you much for your assistance
[09:06] <athena> nah, that confused me too :-P
[09:07] <justin123558> Have a nice day.
[09:07] <sharir> do you know if yahoo work with kmail or evolution ?
[09:07] <sharir> which one is beetter for home office as mail program?
[09:07] <athena> sharir, no. Unless you have that premium thingy.
[09:08] <sharir> like mail plus ?
[09:08] <athena> because that webmail crap won't let you download messages over POP/IMAP
[09:08] <athena> sharir, yes, mail "plus"
[09:08] <philipp__> hi
[09:08] <sharir> no i dont have it
[09:09] <sharir> it even not working so good with firefox
[09:09] <sharir> and thunderbird ?
[09:10] <waylandbill> sharir: you could get gmail account and forward the yahoo mail to it and then you'd have POP access, or just use gmail directly.
[09:11] <frederick_> hi
[09:11] <waylandbill> sharir: or any other free service that has pop access of course.
[09:12] <frederick_> does anyone know how to switch the nicklist in konversation to alphabetical order?
[09:12] <frederick_> plz
[09:12] <blekos> does anybody know how to train spamassin?
[09:12] <blekos> is this done automaticaly from kmail ?
[09:13] <waylandbill> frederick: settings,  configure konversation, nickname list.
[09:13] <frederick_> oh ic, found it
[09:13] <waylandbill> blekos: after you configure kmail to use spamassasin, you can mark as spam or not spam in kmail and it should teach spamassasin
[09:13] <frederick_> thx waylandbill
[09:14] <sharir> so better to move to google mail
[09:14] <blekos> ok
[09:14] <sharir> and is there any diffrent between evolution kmail and thunderbird ?
[09:14] <blekos> thnx
[09:14] <waylandbill> sharir: they all have pro
[09:14] <waylandbill> s and cons.
[09:15] <waylandbill> sharir: they are basically an email client. You'll have to decide what you like best. I use thunderbird because it handles junk mail and openpgp very good.
[09:16] <tresko22> Hi! Is it possible to get Ark to extract directly "here" and not trough /tmp?
[09:17] <tresko22> seems like waste of time automagicaly moving the files around...
[09:21] <massimo> tfukyfy
[09:21] <massimo> funziona?
[09:28] <stan_> has anyone had a similar problem?
[09:28] <crdlb> stan_, you might want to wait a few minutes
[09:28] <stan_> :)
[09:29] <stan_> ok
[09:29] <coreymon77> wow
[09:29] <coreymon77> netsplit>
[09:29] <coreymon77> ?
[09:30] <crdlb> yep
[09:30] <BluesKaj> splittseville
[09:30] <cadkins> Was wondering the best way to upgrade from Edgy to Fiesty?  Update Manager?  Last time I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, I ended up having to do a fresh install.  Would love to avoid this again. :(
[09:32] <daquino> why dont i have mkmf ?
[09:33] <crimsun> it was removed as part of the X.Org modular transition/sync/merge with Debian a long time ago.
[09:33] <daquino> what ?
[09:34] <BluesKaj> cadkins, change the debs in your sources.list from edgy to feisy then , sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[09:34] <BluesKaj> err feisty
[09:34] <BloodyTux> you guys getting spammed too?
[09:34] <coreymon77> with what
[09:34] <coreymon77> prono sites?
[09:34] <coreymon77> yup
[09:34] <Kjellviz> nope
[09:34] <athena> yeah, spam? where?
[09:34] <yknott> cadkins: or dist-upgrade
[09:35] <BluesKaj> splitsville
[09:35] <coreymon77> pm spam
[09:35] <cadkins> BluesKaj : ok.  That's the way I did it last time and I had to do a fresh install as some things were missing
[09:35] <Telemako> I need help installing from cvs, it looks like not updating >,<
[09:35] <BloodyTux> the ubuntu channel is getting spam joined...
[09:35] <BloodyTux> >.<
[09:35] <coreymon77> oh
[09:35] <coreymon77> thats because of a netsplit
[09:35] <Telemako> can anyone help me installing from cvs ?
[09:36] <BloodyTux> !netsplit
[09:36] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:36] <Kjellviz> are there any alternative to Beryl when it comes to desktop effects ?
[09:36] <Arwen> Kjellviz, yes. Beryl is dead. Use compiz.
[09:36] <Kjellviz> Arwen: aint that potato potato ?
[09:36] <Arwen> ?
[09:36] <Minataku> Huh, I see no spam
[09:36] <Kjellviz> Arwen: they joined forces and are the same
[09:36] <BluesKaj> cadkins, well afresh install is always the cleanest , but now that feisty is relatively mature and stable it should work fairly well ...you may have to tweak here there of course
[09:36] <Kjellviz> what i heard at least
[09:36] <Arwen> Kjellviz, ...same thing
[09:37] <Kjellviz> ye
[09:37] <Kjellviz> ok let me rephrase
[09:37] <Arwen> if you want to try KDE 4, kwin 4 has 3-d effects too
[09:37] <Minataku> And I disabled the unregistered user restriction
[09:37] <Kjellviz> are there any alternative to beryl/compiz
[09:37] <Minataku> KDE4 is nowhere near practical use status
[09:37] <cadkins> BluesKaj : gotcha.  Make sure to do those backups at any rate ;)
[09:37] <Arwen> Kjellviz, yes. kwin4. But it's not done yet.
[09:37] <BluesKaj> Minataku, uhoh
[09:37] <BluesKaj> yeps cadkins :)
[09:37] <Minataku> It's still early in development
[09:37] <Kjellviz> ok, not done prob means it exceeds my knowledge
[09:38] <Kjellviz> ><
[09:38] <Arwen> I think there's project looking glass too
[09:38] <mneptok> Arwen: that's a different DE. and far from finished.
[09:38] <Minataku> The use of KDE4 in a production or desktop environment is not recommended at this time.
[09:38] <Arwen> mneptok, he just asked if they existed...
[09:38] <Arwen> not if they were good choices
[09:39] <Minataku> Arwen: Typically when one asks for such, they want ones that ARE good choices
[09:39] <Minataku> Think before being an asshole :P
[09:39] <Kjellviz> ^^
[09:39] <Kjellviz> im with Minataku on that one :P
[09:39] <Arwen> hey, I said they weren't done yet...
[09:39] <mneptok> Arwen: but PJL is not a compistor. it's a different environment.
[09:39] <mneptok> +o
[09:40] <Arwen> oh? my apologies
[09:40] <Kjellviz> project looking glass you say ?
[09:40] <Kjellviz> its a KDE alternativ rather than beryl alternative ?
[09:40] <Arwen> yeah, some kind of Java 3d desktop.
[09:40] <Kjellviz> hmmkk
[09:40] <mneptok> Kjellviz: yes. and far from feature complete.
[09:40] <Minataku> Java. That's enough to make you run away right there.
[09:41] <cadkins> so what happened with Beryl?  Seemed like it was doing well.
[09:41] <mneptok> and 100% Java
[09:41] <Arwen> cadkins, it's now part of Compiz.
[09:41] <Arwen> /j #opencompositing
[09:41] <cadkins> oooooooo...........ok.  I think the only thing I use on Beryl is the cube thing anyway :)  Very productive tool
[09:42] <Kjellviz> well basically
[09:42] <Kjellviz> im just looking for wobbly windows