[11:31] <rafflesdude> yes dli?
[11:31] <dli> exn, sudo iwconfig eth0
[11:31] <dli> rafflesdude, are you sure you set enable video for video in bios? like more than 8MB
[11:31] <gmi01> dli, thanks, I will have a look at that cron job
[11:31] <rafflesdude> ok i'll try that again
[11:32] <rafflesdude> 8MB?
[11:32] <rafflesdude> or more?
[11:32] <chunky_munkey> how do you unpack a tar?
[11:32] <dli> rafflesdude, sudo 855resolution -l
[11:32] <darx> ic56: i'd like to release the DHCP lease and reset the saved leases
[11:32] <rafflesdude> i type that into command?
[11:32] <dli> rafflesdude, anything more than 640x480?
[11:33] <alexandros_se> Where can I get in contact with someone working on the Ubuntu?
[11:33] <BlueEagle> grats corey.
[11:33] <rafflesdude> no...only show 640 *480
[11:33] <corey> :-D
[11:33] <rafflesdude> no other options dli
[11:33] <corey> i like
[11:33] <ic56> darx: to cause a script to be executed during shutdown, put it in /etc/init.d and then link it to the /etc/rc?.d directories
[11:33] <corey> now i just need help getting my wifi to work :(
[11:33] <BlueEagle> !wifi
[11:33] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:33] <dli> rafflesdude, check bios, reboot, enter bios, find out howmuch video ram is reserved, make it larger than 8MB
[11:33] <BlueEagle> corey: You probably also want support for mp3 and nvidia
[11:34] <corey> lol thanks
[11:34] <corey> nope
[11:34] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell corey about mp3
[11:34] <corey> just wifi
[11:34] <corey> ;)
[11:34] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell corey about nvidia
[11:34] <ic56> darx: the scripts in /etc/init.d have a specific format.  Make sure to immitate it -- you need to provide start, stop, and restart methods at minimum.
[11:34] <darx> ic56: thanks buddy.
[11:34] <BlueEagle> what? No mp3? I'm proud of you. :)
[11:34] <chunky_munkey> darx, where do i get frost wire
[11:35] <Edgy_Eft> my systemsounds are not played anymore....i restartet alsa-utils restart and heared two knacks
[11:35] <Edgy_Eft> but with no effect
[11:35] <rafflesdude> ok will do that and be nback here again
[11:35] <darx> chunky_munkey: ther's a .deb at the frostwire website
[11:35] <rafflesdude> thanks dli
[11:35] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:35] <chunky_munkey> how do i install debs and tars?
[11:35] <darx> ic56: wouldn't a normal shell script suffice??
[11:35] <curley_sue> dli, Fujitsu, I'm working on the fatback installation. in the meanwhile I wanted to b sure: % fatback -a -o ~/recoverydir /dev/hda5 (where hda5 was the partition mounted to mountpoint)
[11:35] <ic56> darx: note the presence of /etc/init.d/networking .  To release your DHCP leases, it may be more appropriate to add your code in there.
[11:36] <alxwind> OFFTOP: any canadians chat here?  :)
[11:36] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13135
[11:36] <dli> curley_sue, still read docs of fatback, make sure it won't write anything to /dev/hda5
[11:37] <darx> ic56: as i said before i'd also like to reset the saved leases. ubuntu for somereason defaults to the expired leases
[11:37] <alxwind> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:37] <chunky_munkey> darx, whats a good server on amule for music/.
[11:37] <chunky_munkey> or where can i get more servers cause its all porn
[11:38] <darx> chunky_munkey: any server would suffice do a global search for more hits.
[11:38] <curley_sue> dli, i could not find anything rearding this matter neither in info nor in man
[11:38] <darx> chunky_munkey: filter you searches for whatever formats you are interested in
[11:39] <chunky_munkey> where do i do a globel search
[11:40] <darx> chunky_munkey: its in the search window, enable the extended parameters
[11:40] <chunky_munkey> seekin music
[11:40] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:40] <chunky_munkey> think its workin
[11:41] <chunky_munkey> what do you think about apollon?
[11:42] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13136
[11:42] <tombs> hi all
[11:42] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13136
[11:43] <darx> chunky_munkey: haven't tried it yet
[11:43] <chunky_munkey> well amule is amazing
[11:43] <chunky_munkey> lots of hits so far
[11:43] <chunky_munkey> i havent even made it to frost wire yet
[11:44] <chunky_munkey> thanks for the tip
[11:44] <darx> chunky_munkey: the edonkey network has the most files
[11:44] <darx> chunky_munkey: just download the .deb from frostwire's website and double click to install
[11:44] <curley_sue> dli, Fujitsu pls check the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13137
[11:44] <darx> its easy as that
[11:45] <darx> chunky_munkey: but you need java as well for frostwire
[11:45] <chunky_munkey> oh well thats another process then
[11:45] <muhammed> can anyone help me with mount
[11:45] <darx> chunky_munkey: but you need java as well for frostwire
[11:46] <chunky_munkey> i dont know much about linux
[11:46] <Fujitsu> Ask away, muhammed.
[11:46] <darx> chunky_munkey: there's a guide in the ubuntu wiki for java
[11:46] <dli> curley_sue, maybe, fatback's fault :( google for another tool
[11:46] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:46] <darx> chunky_munkey: it's quite easy just look around
[11:46] <chunky_munkey> edonkey is on frostwire?
[11:46] <darx> chunky_munkey: nope gnutella
[11:47] <muhammed> well I  can se the hardrive in my desktop hda1 but when i press its says no permission
[11:47] <darx> chunky_munkey: its faster than edonkey most of the time but less hits
[11:47] <doms> you need to mount your hda1
[11:47] <Fujitsu> No.
[11:47] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:47] <Fujitsu> doms, the issue is the NTFS umask.
[11:48] <chunky_munkey> ok im downloading forstwire now
[11:48] <Ocult> ompaul, HELLO !!
[11:48] <ic56> forget justask
[11:48] <ic56> justask is <reply> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:48] <doms> umask=0222
[11:48] <darx> chunky_munkey: remember to install java
[11:49] <darx> chunky_munkey: before frostwire
[11:49] <chunky_munkey> ok
[11:49] <doms> /dev/hda1 media/windows ntfs umask=0222 0 0
[11:49] <johndoe> anybody successfully using a bluetooth keyboard?
[11:49] <chunky_munkey> ok 1 sec got to find the wiki
[11:49] <curley_sue> dli, Fujitsu how can I create an image of my partition?
[11:50] <Fujitsu> dd if=/dev/partition of=somefile
[11:50] <dli> it's not needed now :)
[11:51] <doms> yes even me i use a wireless monitor of my dapper drake
[11:51] <doms> so far so good
[11:51] <darx> ic56: thanks a ton mate
[11:52] <johndoe> doms: and you also use a bt keyboard?
[11:52] <johndoe> may i ask which one
[11:53] <FearMoth> I have a problem.. in ubuntu breezy/dapper the sound worked fine. now I installed kubuntu and I have no sound .. anyone have any ideas what's going wrong?
[11:54] <rafflesdude> how do i save a document in nano text editor?
[11:54] <overrider_> is geom stable enough to build a raid1 and use it on a production fileserver?
[11:54] <overrider_> rafflesdude, ctrl+w
[11:54] <ic56> !justask
[11:54] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[11:54] <overrider_> ctrl+x
[11:55] <rafflesdude> thanks!
[11:56] <corey> how can i open an exe file?
[11:56] <delta> Hi. Anyone "working" with/for the ubuntu-shop?
[11:58] <spiritz> corey: you  don't want to open .exe file; .exe run on windows, linux bascially doesn't use .exe files
[11:58] <corey> ;(
[11:58] <corey> well the ubuntu site gives an exe
[11:58] <corey> blah
[11:59] <corey> will win64 drivers work?
[11:59] <spiritz> no, not any windows driver/program works basically; it's not made for... there's workaround but you don't want to to this
[11:59] <spiritz> which .exe are you trying to launch?
[11:59] <corey> well i know that
[12:00] <corey> im trying to get my wifi working
[12:00] <spiritz> what's your wifi card?
[12:00] <corey> and the guide on ubuntus site says i need the .sys and .inf
[12:00] <corey> from the windows driver
[12:00] <corey> broadcom
[12:00] <corey> pciid 14e4:4318
[12:00] <spiritz> ok, the it might be an exception
[12:00] <corey> there are 3 ones listed
[12:00] <corey> and im not sure which will work
[12:00] <corey> the one i thought would work is .exe :(
[12:01] <spiritz> try doing unzip .exe
[12:01] <corey> nope
[12:01] <corey> ;9
[12:01] <corey> idk why they link to an exe
[12:02] <spiritz> there must be a way
[12:02] <corey> yea if i could get the link on my windows machine
[12:02] <corey> and somehow send a zip to this machine
[12:02] <spiritz> can you show me the webpage u're reading?
[12:02] <corey> hold on let me just dl it on my windows machine and zizp it
[12:03] <corey> its the wifidocs ndlswrapper ubuntu
[12:03] <spiritz> ok ic
[12:03] <corey> lemme try and email this to myself then go and do it on the windows machine
[12:08] <corey> agh! why wont it unzip it
[12:09] <darden> salut
[12:09] <darden> je n'arrive pas  installer democracy
[12:09] <ic56> !fr
[12:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:10] <darden> en fait je ne sais pas installer tout court je crois ;)
[12:13] <Storkme> how can i find out the model of my ATI graphics card?
[12:13] <bimberi> Storkme: 'lspci' (in a terminal) may tell you
[12:13] <Storkme> bimberi, okay, thanks
[12:14] <Storkme> '0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] '
[12:14] <Storkme> so that means my card is a 'Radeon Mobility 7500' ?
[12:15] <bimberi> Stork: i think so - i'm not familar with models of ati cards though
[12:15] <Storkme> okay, nor am i
[12:15] <kimrhh> could someone tell me how to get tetex-extra into my package lists ?
[12:16] <Storkme> bimberi, do you know if my card supports 3d accelleration?
[12:16] <dli> Storkme, I think yes
[12:18] <bimberi> Storkme: i think dli probably knows better than me :)
[12:18] <bimberi> !info tetex-extra
[12:18] <ubotu> tetex-extra: (Additional library files of teTeX), section tex, is optional. Version: 2.0.2c-8 (breezy), Packaged size: 10222 kB, Installed size: 39160 kB
[12:18] <Storkme> okay thanks dli. Do you know which driver i should be using for 3d gaming?
[12:18] <kimrhh> ubotu: yes, but I can't install it
[12:18] <ubotu> kimrhh: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:19] <kimrhh> it doesn't exist in my packagelists
[12:19] <bimberi> kimrhh: put your sources.list on the pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ )
[12:20] <bimberi> !ati
[12:20] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:20] <corey> W00T
[12:20] <corey> i think i got wifi installed
[12:21] <mc44> Hey I cant remeber the name of the program which shows yoer disk space usage like a pie chart divided by folders, anyone know what its called?
[12:21] <kimrhh> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13140
[12:23] <bimberi> !repos
[12:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:23] <corey> brb unplugging wired connection!
[12:23] <bimberi> kimrhh: i would completely replace that with the contents of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (from above)
[12:23] <loothinker> what's the default user and password of PostgreSql-8.1?
[12:24] <rysiek|pl> hi there, everyone
[12:24] <bimberi> loothinker: 'sudo su - postgres' and you should get administrative access (iirc)
[12:25] <loothinker> bimberi:thanks
[12:25] <Doat> mc44, baobab?
[12:25] <rysiek|pl> does anybody know(man, I love this phrase!) in which group(s) a user has to be to be able to run a daemon, listening on localhost:<some_port>?
[12:25] <bimberi> loothinker: not yet, make sure it works first :)
[12:25] <loothinker> i sure
[12:26] <Storkme> bimberi, sorry to bother you again but xserver says my graphics card is a 'Radeon Mobility 9000 (M7 LW)', not a 'Radeon Mobility 7500'
[12:26] <kimrhh> bimberi: thx, that worked
[12:26] <bimberi> Storkme: ooh then https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI might work for you then
[12:27] <bimberi> kimrhh: np :)
[12:27] <Storkme> bimberi, so i shouldn't believe lspci?
[12:28] <Storkme> bimberi, okay, i'll try that. brb
[12:28] <bimberi> Storkme: actually i'd probably believe lspci first - but you never know
[12:28] <Stork> bimberi: didn't work
[12:29] <ic56> rysiek|pl: each daemon is different.
[12:29] <Stork> bimberi: my error was '(EE) No devices found' :(
[12:29] <bimberi> Stork: :(
[12:29] <rysiek|pl> ic56: yeah, I know. I am starting *my own* daemon and I am sure there must be a group that has access to TCP/IP
[12:30] <rysiek|pl> ic56: just like the audio and video groups have access to the audio and video hardware, respectively
[12:30] <ic56> rysiek|pl: not a group.  You are probably thinking of the need to access privileged ports (TCP ports below 1024).  And for that, you need to be uid root.
[12:31] <rysiek|pl> ic56: nope - the port I need access to is 1314 (actually, I can set that up for any port)
[12:31] <doms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13141
[12:31] <doms> i cant search a record
[12:31] <ic56> rysiek|pl: if the port is above 1024, you don't need any special privige.  You could run the daemon as yourself.  However, for better security, you should...
[12:32] <ic56> rysiek|pl: create a uid and group specific to the service offered by that daemon and run the daemon under that uid/gid.  A final alternative is
[12:32] <rysiek|pl> that's just what I am trying to do
[12:34] <ic56> rysiek|pl: to run the daemon as nobody:nogroup which is meant for deamons that have *no* private data.  That id and gid should not own any files at all on your system.  Thus, if the daemon becomes compromised, the cracker won't gain access to any resources.
[12:34] <rysiek|pl> great, thx for the hint
[12:34] <Doat> when i try to mark pcsx for installation it tells me that dependencies psemu-video-x11 OR psemu-video can't be installed. what can i do?
[12:35] <Rafael> high room. does anyone use a video camera with ubunt ? i am looking for basic video capturing and editing software ... help, anyone ?
[12:36] <bimberi> !info kino
[12:36] <ubotu> kino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-7ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 725 kB, Installed size: 2676 kB
[12:36] <priyank> hey
[12:36] <Rafael> bimberi: ty!
[12:36] <priyank> whats the pacakge name for tightvnc?
[12:36] <bimberi> Rafael: np :)
[12:37] <fred__> join #ubuntu-fr
[12:37] <bimberi> priyank: tightvncserver (tip: search in synaptic or 'apt-cache search tightvnc')
[12:37] <priyank> bimberi: apt-get install tightvncserver doesnt work
[12:38] <bimberi> !info tightvncserver
[12:38] <ubotu> tightvncserver: (virtual network computing server software), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.9-6build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 610 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB
[12:38] <bimberi> priyank: it's in the universe repository ...
[12:38] <cornernote_> hello
[12:38] <bimberi> ubotu tell priyank about universe
[12:38] <blixtra> Is anybody able to view the videos at http://www.firefoxflicks.com/ with mplayer-plugin?
[12:39] <Doat> !pcsx
[12:39] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Doat
[12:39] <cornernote_> i want to run a barebones ubuntu.. i need X but i dont need a window manager...   what debs do i need to get ?
[12:39] <blixtra> for me it hangs at 99% and does nothing
[12:39] <doms> theirs something like a amarok for gnome
[12:39] <blixtra> doms: try banshee
[12:40] <doms> banshee
[12:40] <blixtra> yep
[12:40] <doms> that has a online radio
[12:40] <priyank> thanks bimberi
[12:40] <bimberi> priyank: np :)
[12:40] <blixtra> doms: I'm not sure I never use it for that
[12:41] <bimberi> cornernote_: a 'server' install plus x-window-system-core would be my guess
[12:41] <Rafael> how can i find out which device name is used by a connected ffirewire video camera
[12:42] <Rafael>  is there something like lsusb or lspci for firewire ?
[12:45] <doms> someone knows a online radio for gnome
[12:45] <Rafael> you may use rythmbox
[12:45] <Rafael> if u like it
[12:45] <Rafael> or xmms
[12:46] <chandscomb> hey where can i go to find people with music?
[12:46] <Rafael> live365.com
[12:46] <chandscomb> presumably this works like the windows 'Mirc'?
[12:46] <chandscomb> thankkooo
[12:47] <doms> novell for music online radio
[12:47] <Rafael> bestter shoutcast.com
[12:47] <Rafael> s/bester/better/
[12:47] <Rafael> anyone here with firewire knowledge ?
[12:48] <chandscomb> firewire being the ipod cable firewire?
[12:48] <Rafael> well, it's a video camera .... blockdevice also (the block device is working)
[12:48] <chandscomb> hmm
[12:48] <chandscomb> your using it on linux?
[12:49] <Rafael> well, not i use windows .. .that's why i ask here ... j/k
[12:49] <Storkme> where are the xserver detailed output files?
[12:49] <cornernote_> hi, on windows if i give a computer a name, other computers can see it using that name... can i setup linux the same ?
[12:49] <doms> where i can download novell client and novell server for linux server and windows client
[12:49] <Rafael>  ... /var/X.NN.log
[12:49] <cornernote_> so that i can have a computer using DHCP with a static name on the local network
[12:50] <Rafael> err .... / var/logs/X.NN.log
[12:50] <nikusan> cornernote_, system > admin > networking > general > hostname
[12:50] <Rafael> Storkme: /var/logs/Xorg.0.log
[12:51] <cornernote_> nikusan: other computers on the network dont seem to be picking up the hostname of my linux box
[12:51] <doms> where i can a download a free novell server  for my ubuntu box running on server  and i hav a 7 client running on windows download a windows client too
[12:51] <cornernote_> unless i have an internal DNS server or use hosts files or something
[12:51] <nikusan> cornernote_, windows computers?
[12:51] <Ocult> hello
[12:51] <cornernote_> yes
[12:51] <Ocult> somebody here use vnc ?
[12:51] <nikusan> cornernote_, you need to install samba
[12:52] <cornernote_> i dont want to share files across the network... i just want to see apache on my linux box
[12:52] <cornernote_> i still need samba ?
[12:52] <nikusan> cornernote_, oh sorry, I'm not sure
[12:52] <cornernote_> * and i dont want to type the IP cos its DHCP
[12:53] <ic56> cornernote_ when you say you want other computers to see the ubuntu computer's name, what do you mean?  In which applications do you want the computer's name to be visible?
[12:53] <Ali> hi all
[12:53] <Ali> how can i limit the /var/log size ?
[12:54] <Rafael> ali: you may use logrotation ... on a nightly basis (via cron)
[12:54] <Ali> logrotate ?
[12:55] <WarOfAttrition> could someone tell me where 'glib-config' 'xmms-config' and 'gtk-config' are found on ubuntu?
[12:55] <cornernote_> ic56: i want to be able to ping my ubuntu
[12:55] <cornernote_> from windows... using a name not an IP
[12:55] <WarOfAttrition> or what their equivalents are?
[12:56] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: i thing you need the glib-devel package
[12:56] <Hoodster> Hi All, does anyone know what this message means? "Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon!"
[12:56] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: not sure as i have a gentoo background
[12:56] <corey> woot!
[12:57] <corey> got wifi to work
[12:57] <corey> quite easily i might add
[12:58] <WarOfAttrition> Ali: I already have libglib2.0-dev is that it?
[12:58] <WarOfAttrition> same with the devel of gtk
[12:58] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: i think yes
[12:58] <ic56> Ali: logrotate config files are in /etc/logrotate.d/.  You can set the frequency of rotation and size of logfiles there.
[12:59] <WarOfAttrition> then it's a mystery where their 'config' files are
[12:59] <WarOfAttrition> so I can't compile jack
[12:59] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: it's weird, i have it here
[12:59] <WarOfAttrition> in what location?
[01:00] <Ali> /usr/bin
[01:00] <Ali> $ which glib-config
[01:00] <Ali> /usr/bin/glib-config
[01:00] <Ali> thank you ic56
[01:00] <ramless> hi.. starting achilles i received the message Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". i use nv driver, i have load "glx" in config file.. any suggestions??
[01:01] <WarOfAttrition> all I have there about glib is glib-genmarshal  glib-gettextize  glib-mkenums
[01:01] <WarOfAttrition> but I'm guessing that's not what I'm looking for
[01:01] <si|vercat> cornernote_, make a static dhcp lease and assign it a name, depending on the server it should add an entry to the dns-server
[01:02] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: if you know an equivalent for equery in ubuntu, i can tell you to which package it belongs
[01:02] <Steff_breezy> Hi, I have a massive problem: when I open my home folder with nautilus, the window opens, but the files/folders in it are not to be seen, just an empty space in the window. You have to kill this window to close it. After a few minutes, I have an intense disk activity and have to restart X, cause it hangs then. Reboot didnt help. Other nautilus windows react normally. Please help
[01:02] <bakert> Steff_breezy: what the hell you got in there?
[01:02] <WarOfAttrition> I do not
[01:02] <bakert> Steff_breezy: can you do an ls in a terminal?
[01:02] <Steff_breezy> bakert, nothing special..
[01:02] <Steff_breezy> bakert, yes
[01:02] <bakert> Steff_breezy: how many files?
[01:03] <bakert> Steff_breezy: ls -la | wc -l
[01:03] <Ali> Steff_breezy: killall -9 gnome-thumbnailer
[01:03] <Ali> or something like that
[01:03] <delta> Excuse me, someone "working" with/for the ubuntu-shop?
[01:03] <Steff_breezy> bakert, 99 files
[01:04] <Steff_breezy> Ali, I have rebooted, so this will probably without effort?
[01:04] <bakert> Steff_breezy: hmm ... are any of them images?  that is not a terrible thought from Ali .. could be something to do with trying to generate a thumbnail?
[01:04] <ic56> cornernote_: it seems I had a bug which made it appear like people were sending me private messages.
[01:04] <bakert> Steff_breezy: mind you it does thumbnails for lots of things
[01:04] <Ali> Steff_breezy: it's run when you open a folder with thumbnailable thingies
[01:04] <bakert> Steff_breezy: like pdfs, etc.  Perhaps you can get into list view first then go there and see if it is better behaved?
[01:05] <bakert> Steff_breezy: oh no that doesnt work, views are per folder ... it might be a setting?
[01:05] <soundray> Steff_breezy: if I were you, I would just leave the window for 10 or 15 minutes. Once the thumbnails are in the cache, it shouldn't take this long to open it again.
[01:05] <bakert> Steff_breezy: yes - Edit, Preferences and its there
[01:05] <WarOfAttrition> Ali: btw are you on dapper?
[01:05] <Steff_breezy> bakert, theres no image or media file in it
[01:06] <bakert> Steff_breezy: i would try changing pref to list view and see if it helps ... just to eliminate the possibility
[01:06] <bakert> Steff_breezy: and because i dont have any better ideas!
[01:06] <bakert> sorry!
[01:06] <soundray> I've installed r-cran-rmysql. What else do I need to do to use it? Right now, "m <- dbDriver("MySQL")" gives me "couldn't find function "dbDriver""
[01:06] <Steff_breezy> bakert, ok, Ill try
[01:06] <Steff_breezy> thx for your help, 1 sec
[01:06] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: yes
[01:07] <WarOfAttrition> I see, that might be it then
[01:07] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: oO
[01:07] <WarOfAttrition> I'm still on 5.10
[01:07] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: that's weird, glib-config had been there for ages
[01:08] <Steff_breezy> you were right, in list view it opens!!
[01:08] <WarOfAttrition> then I guess it's a conspiracy, doesn't want me to compile
[01:08] <bakert> Steff_breezy: hmm ... ok so now it is a question of what is the culprit.
[01:08] <Steff_breezy> I also turned thumbnails off
[01:08] <bakert> Steff_breezy: you could try moving half the files somewhere else and keep doing half again and find the culprit(s) by process of elimination?
[01:09] <bakert> Steff_breezy: or it could be that there is something wrong with thumbnail generation on your machine, period
[01:09] <bakert> Steff_breezy: or perhaps this is enough of a fix?
[01:09] <Ali> ic56 ???
[01:09] <Steff_breezy> i changed to symbol view again and it frooze again. what do i have to type to restart nautilus
[01:10] <Steff_breezy> ?
[01:10] <soundray> Steff_breezy: just give it a bit of time.
[01:10] <Steff_breezy> soundray, it did many times, it wont help
[01:10] <soundray> Steff_breezy: 10 minutes?
[01:10] <bakert> soundray: you think that's normal behaviour?  it shouldnt freeze, just not show the icons for a while if it is working ok?
[01:10] <orbin> Steff_breezy: what are your system specs?
[01:10] <bakert> orbin: good question
[01:10] <Steff_breezy> soundray, really, so long?
[01:10] <Ali> Steff_breezy: open the gconf-editor
[01:11] <Steff_breezy> orbin, amd 2100+ 256 ram
[01:11] <soundray> bakert: like orbin says, it depends on the specs of course.
[01:11] <WarOfAttrition> btw does anyone know if xmms plugins are compatible with bmp?
[01:11] <Steff_breezy> Ali, yes?
[01:11] <Ali> Steff_breezy: and disable all thumbnailers
[01:11] <ramless> hi.. starting achilles i received the message Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". i use nv driver, i have load "glx" in config file.. any suggestions??
[01:11] <Ali> Steff_breezy: they are somewhere on /desktop
[01:11] <Acidic> anyone had experience with webmin
[01:11] <orbin> WarOfAttrition: yes, they are
[01:12] <Ali> WarOfAttrition: not all of them
[01:12] <Steff_breezy> soundray, do you really think I should wait ten minutes for nautilus
[01:12] <Steff_breezy> ?
[01:12] <Ali> anyone willing to help me reducing my /var/log size ?
[01:12] <black_hwk> hi is there any softwares like SQLYog that I can download via apt-get?
[01:13] <soundray> Steff_breezy: I think it's a matter of doing it just once. Then the thumbnails will be cached (I assume)
[01:13] <Ali> Steff_breezy: i am running dapper on an old 600 Mhz with 196Mb
[01:13] <bakert> black_hwk: what is SQLYog?
[01:13] <WarOfAttrition> probably running fluxbox?
[01:13] <Acidic> Can anyone help me with a poblem im having with webmin...
[01:14] <Steff_breezy> soundray, I have turned thumbnail previews completely off, but I have switched from list to symbol view and it froze again
[01:14] <soundray> Ali, edit /etc/logrotate.conf
[01:14] <bakert> Steff_breezy: so it is something other than thumbnails about icon view??  Odd.
[01:14] <Ali> soundray: and ?
[01:15] <soundray> Steff_breezy: okay, I guess you've proved me wrong.
[01:15] <bakert> anyone know the xchat keyboard shortcut for "next window"?
[01:15] <xerophyte>  If i understood correctly if i wanna setup small business envoriment with file server + printer server i need samba on the linux server .. is there any other way to setup ??
[01:15] <soundray> Ali: ...use your head.
[01:15] <Ali> lol
[01:15] <bakert> xerophyte: samba is best if you want to talk to windows machines
[01:15] <soundray> Ali: sorry, that was rude
[01:16] <Ali> not at all
[01:16] <soundray> Ali: but you have to decide for yourself what the best balance is between having a log history and disk usage.
[01:16] <Ali> :)
[01:16] <black_hwk> bakert, its an SQL client, with GUI. I can export and import SQL tables and structures as .csv files.
[01:16] <bakert> xerophyte: of course ideally you dont have any windows machines and therefore dont need samba
[01:16] <orbin> bakert: ctrl + pgdn/pgup
[01:16] <bakert> black_hwk: there's mysql control center but that is no longer supported
[01:16] <WarOfAttrition> ok, im mad enough, gonna ask in the forum, probably to no avail
[01:16] <Ali> soundray: i'd go for a 1 day log file
[01:16] <soulfreshner>  I can hear my mic if I unmute it, so it is working, but for some reason I can't record from it using the sound recorder
[01:16] <bakert> black_hwk: and there's the program that replaced it Query Something I think
[01:16] <bakert> black_hwk: i dont like that so much
[01:17] <soulfreshner> what should I check?
[01:17] <Ali> soundray: 4.2G used for log on a 8.7 disk is not fun at all
[01:17] <black_hwk> bakert, i see. any other programs with gui and import/export facility?
[01:17] <bakert> !mysql
[01:17] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:17] <bakert> hmmm
[01:17] <bakert> not that useful
[01:17] <soundray> Ali: oh, you've got a problem. Something is logging excessive errors.
[01:18] <Ali> soundray: i know
[01:18] <orbin> Steff_breezy: just for the hell of it, maybe try deleting ~/.thumbnails ?
[01:18] <bakert> black_hwk: i havent used anything else.  there's the godawful phpmyadmin that people somehow use - web based
[01:18] <soundray> Ali: do a 'ls -srS /var/log | tail -n 1' to see what the biggest file is.
[01:18] <Ali> soundray: it's the kernel logging about my cdrom
[01:18] <Acidic> Can anyone help me with a problem I'm having getting webmin to start
[01:18] <Fujitsu> mysql-admin?
[01:18] <bakert> black_hwk: i dont like that though
[01:18] <soundray> Ali: why don't you solve that then?
[01:18] <xerophyte> bakert, what if you have apple ox boxes ??
[01:18] <Fujitsu> What's the issue, Acidic?
[01:18] <Ali> soundray: cannot, it's a false error
[01:18] <soundray> Ali: what does it say/
[01:18] <bakert> xerophyte: good question!  i guess they can samba too, being unix, but i've not done it
[01:18] <soundray> ?
[01:18] <Acidic> Fujitsu: Well, i apt-get install'd it and it said it was started.. So i tried to connect http://ip:10000 and nothing
[01:19] <blazemonger> anyone here on the ubuntu development team
[01:19] <noiesmo> Acidic, isnt it localhost by default and https
[01:19] <Ali> soundray: drive hdc ... appears confused
[01:19] <Acidic> Fujitsu: So i go and look if it's running, and it's not.. So i did a /etc/init.d/webmin start
[01:19] <Acidic> Fujitsu, im trying to access from another pc
[01:19] <billytwowilly> hi, in dapper my sound is WAY too loud and adjusting the sound with the audio control in the top right corner doesn't change the volume at all.. how do I fix this?
[01:19] <Fujitsu> Acidic, it runs on localhost only by default, and uses HTTPS on port 10000.
[01:19] <Fujitsu> You need to modify the config from within webmin...
[01:20] <soundray> Ali, have you stfw for that error?
[01:20] <bakert> billytwowilly: PLAY SOME MOTORHEAD!
[01:20] <Acidic> Fujitsu: But the problem is, it's not in the process lists... and when i try to "start" it... it never comes on the processes :/
[01:20] <Ali> stfw ?
[01:20] <soundray> Ali, "searched the fine web"
[01:20] <Ali> no
[01:20] <Ali> soundray: i always had it with that drive
[01:20] <Acidic> noiesmo: Should i not see it in a ps aux | grep webmin
[01:20] <Ali> so i don't care much
[01:20] <immolo> Acidic, webmin is not a process it just like a web server
[01:21] <billytwowilly> ok.. adjusting the pcm sound setting changes the sound level, but adjusting the headphones or pc speakers sound setting does nothing..
[01:21] <Fujitsu> PC Speaker and headphones shouldn't change the speaker level!
[01:21] <noiesmo> Acidic, miniserv is its own server or it'll run on apache
[01:21] <billytwowilly> in the volume control app
[01:21] <Acidic> noiesmo, do i need apache for webmin to run?
[01:21] <billytwowilly> there's "headphones", "pcm" and "pc speaker" sound sliders
[01:21] <noiesmo> Acidic, no
[01:22] <soundray> Ali: well, I suggest you solve this problem instead of messing with your log settings.
[01:22] <Acidic> noiesmo, nevermind.. i just reread what you said.
[01:22] <Fujitsu> billytwowilly, PCM is the one you want.
[01:22] <noiesmo> Acidic, it should use miniserv part of webmin but localhost or https
[01:22] <Acidic> noiesmo, what is the name of the config file i need to change then.. because from my pc here (not the one with webmin) https://ip:10000 does not work either
[01:22] <soundray> I've installed r-cran-rmysql. What else do I need to do to use it? Right now, "m <- dbDriver("MySQL")" gives me "couldn't find function "dbDriver""
[01:22] <billytwowilly> Fujitsu, but changing the volume slider that pops down from the applet in the top right doesn't do anything to the sound level...
[01:23] <noiesmo> Acidic, should be in /etc/webmin/ not sure what fill porb config
[01:23] <Acidic> noiesmo: the only conf file in /etc/webmin is update.conf and is empty
[01:23] <noiesmo> Acidic, havnt used it in awhile
[01:23] <blazemonger> anyone here use ubuntu for music production
[01:24] <Acidic> Fujitsu: This config from within webmin... how do i access that
[01:24] <bakert> blazemonger: i made a mash up mp3 with audacity once.  it was shit!
[01:24] <noiesmo> Acidic, miniserv.conf
[01:24] <Fujitsu> You need to access it from the local machine.
[01:24] <Fujitsu> Or try that.
[01:24] <Fujitsu> miniserv.conf.
[01:25] <bakert> blazemonger: but that was my talentlessness not audacity's fault!
[01:25] <Acidic> no file :/
[01:25] <Acidic> 3f7c2efe.0 acl miniserv.pem miniserv.users servers update.conf webmin webmin.acl webmin.acl.bak webminlog
[01:25] <Acidic> the next webmin folder is empty
[01:25] <Ali> soundray: it's related to irq, i have a very old mother board with weird irqs
[01:25] <blazemonger> bakert, :you should try Rosegarden
[01:25] <blazemonger> or soundtracker or cheesetracker
[01:25] <noiesmo> Acidic, is there anything in /usr/share/webmin
[01:26] <orbin> blazemonger: http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Welcome,_Musicians!
[01:26] <Acidic> noiesmo: yes
[01:26] <noiesmo> Acidic, if miniserv.conf check it then restart webmin
[01:26] <Acidic> noiesmo: no
[01:26] <Acidic> noiesmo: there is no miniserv.conf in /usr/share/webmin
[01:27] <noiesmo> Acidic, how did you install webmin
[01:27] <Acidic> noiesmo: apt-get install webmin
[01:27] <soundray> Ali: are you on kernel 2.6.12?
[01:28] <soundray> Do you guys know where the R statistics experts hang out?
[01:28] <soundray> IRC-wise?
[01:28] <noiesmo> Acidic, did it install webmin-core
[01:28] <Acidic> noiesmo, where would that be
[01:29] <noiesmo> Acidic, try sudo apt-get install webmin-core
[01:29] <blazemonger> bakert, :want to send me what you did with audicaty?
[01:30] <nikosgr> hello
[01:30] <Acidic> noiesmo, done
[01:30] <bakert> blazemonger: sooooo nooooo - it was Song2 by Blur and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band run together very amateurishly!
[01:30] <EnUm> hello
[01:30] <nikosgr> guys why apahces /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty?
[01:31] <Steff_breezy> Its me again, nautilus works as usual now, man- I had very bad 30 minutes .. :), this is what I did, dont now what solved the problem: deleted all ~./thumbnails, moved some files in "home" to another folder  in list view, now everything is ok again, thx for your help again
[01:31] <noiesmo> Acidic, did it install something if so check /etc/webmin folder again for files
[01:31] <blazemonger> bakert, :i might like it bakert
[01:31] <bakert> nikosgr: look under /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[01:31] <Acidic> noiesmo, there are new files in /etc/webmin
[01:31] <soundray> Steff_breezy: good troubleshooting, well done.
[01:31] <bakert> nikosgr: ubuntu does this funny thing using symlinks and multiple config files
[01:31] <Acidic> noiesmo, still not a miniserv.conf
[01:31] <noiesmo> Acidic, wooho the ones we need hopefully
[01:31] <soundray> Ali: are you on kernel 2.6.12?
[01:31] <bakert> nikosgr: its actually quite smart when you get to grips with it
[01:31] <EnUm> i need help concerning avi to dvd burning.i have a avi file and want to watch it on my tv dvd player.how can i convert the avi into a dvd file to burn it on dvd and watch it on the player?
[01:31] <noiesmo> Acidic, dam
[01:32] <noiesmo> Acidic, check this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507&highlight=webmin
[01:32] <nikosgr> you eman th conf i foudn is a symlink
[01:32] <nikosgr> and not the actuial file?
[01:32] <noiesmo> noiesmo, it doesnt recommend using the apt version
[01:32] <noiesmo> Acidic, maybe it might be the go
[01:32] <bakert> nikogr: no i mean they moved where apache2 config goes
[01:32] <bakert> nikosgr: you put all config files in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[01:33] <Steff_breezy> cu, have a nice day
[01:33] <nikosgr> yes you were right
[01:33] <EnUm> i try to use avidemux 2,and convert the avi into "dvd" or mpeg 2.and how can i then burn it to watch it on the player?
[01:33] <noiesmo> Acidic, i'm running dapper so i cant install it via apt so i cant help anymore it's been to long since i used it :)
[01:33] <nikosgr> its there names as default
[01:33] <MisterN> hi
[01:33] <nikosgr> but man ima used to httpd.conf
[01:33] <bakert> nikosgr: and if you want them live you symlink to them in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[01:33] <bakert> nikosgr: for just one site/config file you just edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default (or whatever it is called)
[01:33] <Acidic> noieso, ok, thanks for the link.. I tried using a wget to get those files but i didntseem to get the whole thing.. ill be trying again
[01:33] <soundray> EnUm: have you seen this article: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/2058219
[01:34] <nikosgr> may i anme it httpd.conf?
[01:34] <soundray> nikosgr: why don't you make a soft link?
[01:34] <EnUm> soundray:no i haven't
[01:34] <darx> greeting guys
[01:34] <EnUm> oh,thx
[01:34] <darx> what is the command to delete the contents of a file
[01:35] <nikosgr> ln -s httpd.conf /etc/apache2/sites-availabe/default
[01:35] <edu> hey
[01:35] <ic56> darx: you mean you want the file to continue existing but be empty?
[01:35] <roryy> > thefile
[01:35] <Acidic> darx, do you want to keep the file there, just clean it out?
[01:35] <darx> yup
[01:35] <edu> when you instal vlc it comes with mp3 codecs etc.?
[01:35] <noiesmo> Acidic, the only other think is there might be some more webmin packages need so do apt-cache search webmin see whats avail
[01:35] <darx> yup
[01:36] <soundray> nikosgr: that's the wrong way round
[01:36] <ic56> darx: in bash, type:  >file
[01:36] <nikosgr> why?
[01:36] <Ali> soundray: 2.6.15
[01:36] <nikosgr> i just want the conf file to be named as iam sude too
[01:36] <nikosgr> httpd.conf not like this
[01:36] <soundray> nikosgr: ln -sf linkedfile softlink
[01:36] <darx> ic56: thanks
[01:37] <EnUm> soundtray:can i also use avidemux to convert avi to mpeg2?i selected there the option auto-dvd
[01:37] <nikosgr> a yes
[01:37] <EnUm> now it is converting
[01:37] <darx> ic56: i didn't follow your private message to me
[01:37] <nikosgr> the other way around my mistake
[01:37] <nikosgr> i wlasy do this msitake when ti comes to ln
[01:37] <soundray> EnUm: I don't know the specific answer to the problem, just noticed that this article might be relevant to you.
[01:37] <ic56> darx: you're welcome
[01:37] <darx> okies
[01:38] <darx> i'm a noob
[01:40] <edu> i have a question, maybe a stupid question
[01:40] <EnUm> soundtray:ok,thank you
[01:40] <soundray> !ask
[01:40] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[01:40] <Acidic> edu, you may get a stupid answer :) :P
[01:41] <nikosgr> wait am inute
[01:41] <nikosgr> are you sure tha default is the same as httpdc.conf used to be ?
[01:41] <edu> why kubuntu hasn't got free ship, like ubuntu? i think kde rocks ^^
[01:41] <ProN00b> how can i get the current development release ?
[01:41] <nikosgr> its very small
[01:41] <Riddell> edu: it will do
[01:41] <Acidic> noiesmo, you still there?
[01:41] <noiesmo> Acidic, yes
[01:42] <edu> really?
[01:42] <Acidic> noiesmo, that worked... apparently the apt-get stuff is screwerd
[01:42] <edu> i would love to try kubuntu dapper
[01:42] <noiesmo> Acidic, cool
[01:42] <nikosgr> are you sure the default is the same as httpd.conf used to be ?
[01:42] <edu> but i have a 56k connection, you know :-P
[01:42] <noiesmo> Acidic, have installed via apt on debian must ubuntu packages
[01:42] <noiesmo> Acidic, well at least its working
[01:42] <Acidic> yea
[01:43] <Acidic> "First of all, and most important... DON'T use the webmin from apt-get or Synaptic. These are older files, and they will require 'root' as the login."
[01:43] <kremsner> Hy @ all
[01:43] <kremsner> question
[01:43] <kremsner> I got a *.deb package....
[01:43] <xerophyte> with apt-cache search how can i only search apple not applet ??
[01:43] <kremsner> how can I install it?
[01:43] <soundray> !enter
[01:43] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[01:43] <Acidic> lawl
[01:43] <noiesmo> ;)
[01:44] <soundray> xerophyte, try "apple "
[01:44] <edu> have you ever tried xgl? it must be cool, I guess
[01:44] <orbin> kremsner: what is it?
[01:44] <kremsner> alacarte 0.8
[01:44] <orbin> !dpkg
[01:44] <noiesmo> Acidic, the root things not that big a deal you can make a user after first logon aanyway
[01:44] <kremsner> thx
[01:44] <Acidic> noiesmo, yea.. but there may be more problems with more recent stuff :/
[01:44] <orbin> !deb
[01:44] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[01:45] <noiesmo> Acidic, true true
[01:45] <edu> oh yeah
[01:45] <xerophyte> soundray, thx
[01:45] <nikosgr> dpkg -i also wont inclde dependencies
[01:45] <Acidic> noiesmo, i was trying to get a snort module running on it, (that was kinda the whole point of getting webmin) and that seems to have a problem installing from apt-get also (prolly now since i didn't get webmin from apt)
[01:46] <sparklink> hi guys
[01:46] <kremsner> k thnx.... but it didn't helped *g*... how can I edit the Places?
[01:46] <noiesmo> Acidic, yeah prob you'll have to download module from webmin then install
[01:47] <Acidic> noiesmo, they don't have snort on their site.. and the only place i can find it has a broken link
[01:47] <Acidic> noiesmo, Q Q
[01:48] <kremsner> anyone? in the TopBar there are Application Places and System.... how to edit the Places?
[01:48] <knanand> Hello everybody!!
[01:48] <nikosgr> how do i copy paste fiels in  ubuntu?
[01:49] <nikosgr> why ctrl-c and ctrl-v wont work?
[01:49] <dli> nikosgr, right click :)
[01:49] <knanand> Can ny 1 sugest a Download Manager?
[01:49] <nikosgr> i cant drag and drop with rightclick
[01:50] <nikosgr> it open properties panel
[01:50] <edu> maybe beacuse it has different key codes
[01:50] <ben_underscore> nikosgr, just select them in nautilus and copy them then paste into the directory of your choice
[01:50] <ben_underscore> nikosgr, or in terminal use the "cp" command
[01:50] <kremsner> anyone? in the TopBar there are Application Places and System.... how to edit the Places?
[01:50] <nikosgr> yes
[01:50] <`Acidic> noiesmo, pm?
[01:50] <nikosgr> iam tryuign to do wit with file browser
[01:51] <nikosgr> but ic ant
[01:51] <noiesmo> np
[01:51] <MenZa> kremsner: open nautilus and drag a folder into the sidebar
[01:51] <nikosgr> and it alsl tells em i dont have properties for that
[01:51] <sparklink> i've a problem: in this pc the optical drive is not connected in the seconday master of tha main boad but is connected to a controller ide pci (silicon image chipset is natively supported by kernel), i set as first boot device in bios SCSI then i reboot...but after reboot i obtain an error like ISOLINUX FAILED ETC...do you know how i can install ubuntu with my optical drive also if is not connected directly to the mainboard?
[01:51] <nikosgr> on cmd i can switch to root
[01:51] <kremsner> MenZa it didn't work this way
[01:51] <MenZa> kremsner: It does for me.
[01:51] <kremsner> hmmmm....
[01:51] <nikosgr> but on gui how will i notify the sytem that i want to copy file as root
[01:51] <nikosgr> sixcne ima loggen in as nikos?
[01:51] <MenZa> nikosgr: sudo nautilus ;)
[01:52] <MenZa> nikosgr: but using the terminal is preferably
[01:52] <MenZa> prefferable*
[01:52] <nikosgr> ok but why file broswer isnt any good?
[01:52] <MenZa> Argh
[01:52] <MenZa> Preferrable*
[01:52] <MenZa> nikosgr: you risk breaking things
[01:52] <knanand> Is der a Download Manager for that i can use? I need to download a large file Plz :(
[01:52] <kremsner> MenZa does I have to be root?
[01:52] <soundray> MenZa: preferable ;)
[01:52] <edu> bye
[01:52] <MenZa> kremsner: use wget
[01:52] <nikosgr> root@dell:~# sudo nautilus
[01:52] <nikosgr> (nautilus:6524): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open displa
[01:52] <MenZa> kremsner: nope.
[01:52] <MenZa> nikosgr: it should open anyway
[01:52] <MenZa> soundray: thank you, my English is rubbish on a Sunday afternoon :P
[01:53] <Dark-Night> Should i install the latest drivers for my GPU and chipset?
[01:53] <MenZa> Dark-Night: whenever possible, keep everything updated :)
[01:53] <Dark-Night> ok thanks :D
[01:53] <kronoz> !glxgears
[01:53] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[01:53] <nikosgr> weill it aint open
[01:53] <delta> uh
[01:53] <nikosgr> damn how cna i make a copy from gui?
[01:53] <MenZa> nikosgr: the easiest thing would to just use the cp command :p
[01:53] <orbin> knanand: d4x if you want a gui
[01:53] <patrizia> Hello everybody
[01:53] <nikosgr> MenZa,  ok
[01:54] <bsch> hello, everybody
[01:54] <patrizia> I'm trying to burn an audio cd from mp3s on breezy
[01:54] <nikosgr> cp -R for also copying subdirzs?
[01:54] <knanand> orbin :wer can i get dat
[01:54] <MenZa> lo bsch
[01:54] <MenZa> nikosgr: umm, try cp --help
[01:54] <patrizia> What packages do I need to get that working?
[01:54] <bsch> Is chinese here?
[01:54] <orbin> knanand: it's in the universe repository
[01:54] <immolo> patrizia, k3b with the k3bmp3 plugin
[01:54] <MenZa> patrizia: I think k3b does that
[01:54] <MenZa> !ch
[01:54] <ubotu> MenZa: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:54] <MenZa> ;\
[01:54] <orbin> !zn
[01:54] <ubotu> orbin: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:54] <nikosgr> root@dell:~# cp -R /home/nikos/Desktop/www/* /var/www/
[01:54] <MenZa> !chinese
[01:54] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MenZa
[01:54] <nikosgr> thsi workd fine :)
[01:54] <orbin> !zh
[01:54] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[01:55] <patrizia> immolo: Ok. I'll try that. Alltough I don't want to install all the kde libs... :)
[01:55] <bsch> MenZa, are you chinese?
[01:55] <MenZa> bsch: nope ;p
[01:55] <patrizia> immolo: Is there any possibility to burn mp3s with gnomebaker?
[01:55] <bsch> my Emacs cound'n not display Chinese font
[01:55] <immolo> patrizia, k3b is the best burner for linux it's worth the 100mb for kdelibs
[01:55] <bsch> maybe the X trouble
[01:55] <patrizia> immolo: ok ;)
[01:55] <immolo> patrizia, maybe but gnomebaker sucks
[01:56] <immolo> you can do more with the windows buner :P
[01:56] <dli> immolo, I use k3b, ksnapshot, kstars, but I install the whole kde for 3 programs
[01:56] <patrizia> dli: Hm. So I guess i'll have to install the kde libs ;)
[01:56] <bsch> ft
[01:56] <immolo> dli, why? kdelibs isn't the whole of kde
[01:57] <ProN00b> patrizia, you might try serpentine
[01:57] <knanand> orbin : thankx :)
[01:57] <patrizia> ProN00b: Ok
[01:57] <nikosgr> guys why is the htttpd.conf file spo different that in 2.0.54 ?
[01:58] <bsch> what the engine of display  for Emacs?
[01:58] <Quan-Time> whats a linux RAR handler ? as i cant seem to open .rar - .r09
[01:58] <bimberi> nikosgr: #apache
[01:58] <patrizia> immolo: Still get the error: Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
[01:58] <nikosgr> iam there
[01:58] <nikosgr> thay dotn care to answer
[01:58] <bimberi> !rar
[01:58] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:58] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!I've a problem with cups... how can i allow an IP address of my private LAN to connect to Cups' website (port 631)? I can reach it only from localhost:631
[01:58] <bimberi> !find rar
[01:58] <Quan-Time> bimberi, cheers :)
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'rar' (11 shown): guile-library ;; libdata-hierarchy-perl ;; lush-library ;; musiclibrarian ;; partlibrary ;; rar ;; rarpd ;; sdcc-libraries ;; unrar-free ;; unrar-nonfree ;; xml-resume-library.
[01:58] <orbin> bsch: have you asked in #emacs?
[01:58] <immolo> patrizia, you apt-get the mp3 plugin
[01:58] <bsch> Quan-Time, you could down rar for linux
[01:59] <immolo> should be callled k3bmp3
[01:59] <bsch> Ok
[01:59] <knanand> orbin: do you know the how to see my ipaddress in (like ipconfig)
[01:59] <bsch> thanks
[01:59] <patrizia> immolo: Did so "Richte k3b-mp3 ein (0.12.2-0ubuntu2)"
[01:59] <bimberi> Quan-Time: np :)
[01:59] <immolo> and you restarted k3b?
[01:59] <orbin> knanand: ifconfig
[01:59] <patrizia> immolo: Yes, I did
[01:59] <immolo> check the settings to see if it's active
[01:59] <patrizia> immolo: Tryin it again...
[02:00] <Quan-Time> unrar ;) simple
[02:01] <patrizia> immolo: Should be under plugins, shouldn't it?
[02:01] <knanand> orbin: ok! thankx
[02:01] <knanand> bye
[02:01] <patrizia> immolo: There are several. But no mp3 :/
[02:01] <immolo> patrizia, just checking my k3b
[02:02] <knoppix> i've got a /dev/hdb1 free and a /dev/hdb2 with my root linux partition, why can't i expand my /dev/hdb2 with qparted ?
[02:02] <creatureofSpace> q
[02:02] <bsch> how did i know the X using the chinese font or not for Emacs?
[02:02] <nikosgr> someone please that want to help em with apache?
[02:03] <immolo> patrizia, mine isn't under plugins but it does just work
[02:03] <orbin> bsch: have you asked in #emacs?
[02:03] <knanand> hi again
[02:03] <_jason> nikosgr: it's best to just state your problem or question, then someone will help if they know how
[02:03] <nikosgr> ok
[02:03] <nikosgr> and iam just tryign to find the httpd.conf file i was used to
[02:03] <patrizia> immolo: hm. i'll try it by restarting gnome
[02:03] <_jason> nikosgr: are you using apache2 from the repositories?
[02:03] <nikosgr> neither httpd.conf neither fefault file in sites directorie looks like a normal file
[02:03] <nikosgr> jason no
[02:04] <creatureofSpace>       ?
[02:04] <_jason> nikosgr: what are you using then?
[02:04] <Quan-Time> hmm... unrar not as easy as i 1st thought
[02:04] <nikosgr> i installed it from the officila apacxhe site half an hour ago
[02:04] <knanand> orbin: i wud b happy if you cud help me in 1 more probs..
[02:04] <soundray> nikosgr: how about /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[02:04] <fishscience> gcc is not the default install options?
[02:04] <nikosgr> that what i also though
[02:04] <nikosgr> but this doese look a normal apache file
[02:04] <orbin> knanand: shoot
[02:04] <_jason> fishscience: build-essential package will give you gcc
[02:05] <fishscience> 3x
[02:05] <nikosgr> wait
[02:05] <nikosgr> yes this is it!
[02:05] <nikosgr> youa re right
[02:05] <nikosgr> so httpd.conf is now called apache2.conf ?
[02:05] <_jason> nikosgr: yes, the comments in httpd.conf /should/ explain
[02:05] <nikosgr> ok
[02:05] <Quan-Time> bimberi, i cant seem to find / install unrar-nonfree via synaptic,, is it installed via apt-get ? (i have all the respositories, i think) im on dapper
[02:05] <nikosgr> iam also put my website in /var/www/
[02:06] <_jason> Quan-Time: #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions please
[02:06] <soundray> Quan-Time: it's just called unrar now
[02:06] <knanand> orbin: Recently i changed my NTFS partitions to FAT32 i had problems mounting it, somehow i cud do that but now i cannot change permisions for the files is it not possible to do that all files have attr "777" can i change it
[02:07] <patrizia> immolo: After restarting gnome, it worked
[02:07] <patrizia> immolo: Thanks for your help
[02:07] <immolo> patrizia, no problem, enjoy
[02:07] <bimberi> Quan-Time: soundray has it :)
[02:08] <Quan-Time> soundray, i only see unrar-free in synaptic
[02:08] <soundray> knanand: use umask=0000 under options in fstab
[02:08] <Quan-Time> which is installed
[02:08] <orbin> knanand: ntfs is readonly, whereas fat32 is rw.  did you change the mount permissions?  check out this oage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:08] <soundray> Quan-Time: you need multiverse enabled. Done that?
[02:08] <anm81> hola
[02:08] <nikosgr> is it ok to place my website in /var/www ?
[02:09] <_jason> nikosgr: yes
[02:09] <creatureofSpace> hello! here be present russian?
[02:09] <Quan-Time> i thought i had.. obviously not.. ill look into that now. cheers
[02:09] <nikosgr> ot should i place it in another place?
[02:09] <_jason> !ru
[02:09] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:09] <nikosgr> ok
[02:09] <nikosgr> i also have some cgi-bin/*.pl files
[02:09] <anm81> algn espaol?
[02:09] <_jason> !es
[02:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:09] <nikosgr> and my index.html points to index.pl
[02:09] <knanand> orbin: this is what my fstab entry looks like: "/dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,users,defaults,fmask=0000,dmask=0000,uid=0000,gid=0000 0 0"
[02:09] <nikosgr> is it ok to have cgi0bin dir also there?
[02:09] <simplydazed> is squidGuard needed to get user based reports via sarg?
[02:10] <nikosgr> i must change ServerRoot "/etc/apache2" to ServerRoot "var/www/" ??
[02:10] <_jason> nikosgr: since you installed from apache's site and not from the repos I'm not really sure about that
[02:10] <soundray> knanand, looks all right.
[02:11] <nikosgr> it must be the smae
[02:11] <nikosgr> why would it be any different?
[02:11] <tolan> can anyone tell me where i could find a copy of the last revision of nvidia-glx?
[02:11] <creatureofSpace> where is find speak russian?
[02:11] <roryy> !ru
[02:11] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:11] <knanand> soundray: but my permissions is "777" can i change it
[02:12] <dli> tolan, the one in breezy failed?
[02:12] <soundray> knanand: what do you want them to be?
[02:12] <ygetartson> hi all
[02:12] <tolan> it's dapper actually
[02:12] <tolan> should i goto +1?
[02:12] <delta> Excuse me, someone "working" with/for the ubuntu-shop?
[02:12] <ygetartson> I have a "Where was that again?" question.
[02:12] <tolan> i need 8178 drivers as the latest have problems with cgl
[02:12] <tolan> xgl
[02:13] <creatureofSpace> roryy: thank you very much :)
[02:13] <soundray> ygetartson: those are banned here!
[02:13] <Quan-Time> how can i change file associations.. .avi to play in VLC instead of TOTEM by default ?
[02:13] <soundray> ygetartson: just kiddin'
[02:13] <roryy> creatureofSpace: no problem
[02:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell Quan-Time about defaultapp
[02:13] <knanand> soundray: 744
[02:13] <roryy> delta: maybe you want http://www.ubuntu.com ? what are you looking for ?
[02:13] <ygetartson> where was the file where to define keycode-to-keysym mappings?
[02:13] <ic56> knanand: FAT32 filesystems don't have permissions per-file.  So it makes sense that ls displays 777.
[02:14] <delta> roryy, I've a stupid question about an article on the shop.
[02:14] <Howitzer> It's funny, i've given up on linux with every distro, then i crawl back to Ubuntu again and all is fine
[02:14] <dli> ic56, fat doesn't have any permission, right?
[02:14] <roryy> delta: what shop is that?
[02:14] <Quan-Time> _jason, mucho thanx
[02:14] <soundray> knanand: try umask=0033
[02:14] <Howitzer> Arch Linux, Slackware, Red Hat, Fedora, Debian, Zenwalk
[02:14] <Quan-Time> on that note, bed time.. cheers for the help everyone. you rock !
[02:15] <Howitzer> All of 'm suck imho
[02:15] <delta> roryy, http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/
[02:15] <soundray> ic56: but you can still change them globally, can't you?
[02:15] <lastnode> Howitzer, general chatter goes in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:15] <Howitzer> meh
[02:15] <Howitzer> this is Ubuntu prime news!
[02:15] <knanand> soundray what does that mean?
[02:15] <Howitzer> I will not be pushed to offtopic!
[02:16] <leggy> how can i install the package with full kernel sources for my distribution?
[02:16] <ic56> soundray: I suppose you can but what would be the point?
[02:16] <ProN00b> oh noes mozilla somehow got my default browser, how do i change it back to firefox ?
[02:16] <soundray> ic56: I don't know, I'm just trying to tell knanand how to do it, because he wants it.
[02:16] <roryy> delta: sorry, i don't know who is responsible for that, or anything about it. looks pretty cool, though.
[02:16] <_jason> ProN00b: system > preferences > preferred applications
[02:16] <dli> leggy,  I think it's called linux-source
[02:16] <lastnode> leggy, apt-cache search kernel sources
[02:17] <soundray> ic56: I suppose it can make sense to restrict access to a file system.
[02:17] <delta> roryy, I agree :)
[02:17] <nikosgr> how do i restart apache?
[02:17] <Dark-Night> Im getting a Hat!
[02:17] <nikosgr> apache2 -k restart?
[02:18] <knanand> ok, ill try..
[02:18] <leggy> i want to install alsa 1.0.11rc5! but when i use ./configure he stopps with the message: The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[02:18] <leggy> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[02:18] <leggy> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[02:18] <leggy> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[02:18] <dli> nikosgr, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:18] <ic56> soundary: I think is confused.  Previously he had an NTFS filesystem, and those do have permissions similar to unix filesystems and so ls displays interesting information.  Now he's switched to FAT32 and thinks something is wrong because the ls output doesn't vary from one file to the next.
[02:18] <stevietool> someone familiar with wireless failures?
[02:18] <ic56> soundray: I meant knanand is confused
[02:18] <nikosgr> dli,  thnk but what i told also worked fine
[02:19] <dli> stevietool, just ask :(
[02:19] <doms> monitor wireless
[02:19] <lastnode> leggy, you need linux-source, iirc
[02:19] <nikosgr> it seems is alreasy in path
[02:19] <lastnode> stevietool, relatively, but er, just ask?
[02:19] <lastnode> :)
[02:19] <lastnode> !ask
[02:19] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[02:19] <leggy> apt-get linux-source?
[02:19] <creatureofSpace> roryy: in #ubuntu-ru nobody speak
[02:19] <soundray> ic56: I see
[02:19] <ProN00b> _jason, uhm, can you tell me the binary name of that preferred applications chooser ?
[02:19] <nikosgr> iam gettting this
[02:19] <nikosgr> The requested URL /cgi-bin/index.pl was not found on this server.
[02:19] <lastnode> leggy, like i said earlier apt-cache search kernel sources
[02:19] <stevietool> ipw2200:failed to send wep_key command ??
[02:19] <benoitc> hi
[02:20] <nikosgr> but why the folder cgi-bn is on place allright
[02:20] <lastnode> stevietool, ooh, my chipset! :) when does this happen?
[02:20] <benoitc> anyone here ave an apple pro keyboard ?
[02:20] <roryy> leggy: please don't paste again, and you probably want linux-headers-386 (or possibly -686 or something else)
[02:20] <leggy> lastnode:  i did it already
[02:20] <benoitc> would like to configure it on my pc
[02:20] <_jason> ProN00b: gnome-default-applications-properties (but I am in dapper so if it doesn't work please ask again)
[02:20] <lastnode> leggy, so what did you get?
[02:20] <benoitc> afrench apple pro keyboard
[02:20] <lastnode> what packages, leggy ?
[02:20] <Eftarjin> hi
[02:20] <lastnode> hello Eftarjin
[02:21] <stevietool> lastnode: maybe with some apt-get upgrade I think, I has worked,
[02:21] <roryy> creatureofSpace: hmm. Well, you can try english here; do you speak any other languages?
[02:21] <leggy> lastnode: a lot things
[02:21] <ProN00b> was it, thanks, _jason
[02:21] <lastnode> stevietool, breezy or dapper?
[02:22] <lastnode> leggy, well like roryy said, it's probably linux-headers-386 (or 686)
[02:22] <stevietool> lastnode: breezy serverinstall with xfce4
[02:22] <orbin>  any way to get apt-get to list upgradeable packages?
[02:22] <lastnode> stevietool, so after the last apt-get upgrade it b0rked?
[02:22] <leggy> linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[02:22] <lastnode> orbin, your update widget should tell you that
[02:22] <lastnode> gui widget, in system tray
[02:23] <roryy> orbin: and an easy cli answer is to run 'sudo aptitude' with no arguments.  Should give a list of upgradeable packages at the top
[02:23] <soundray> orbin: apt-get -us upgrade
[02:23] <leggy> sry...i'm a linux newbie :\
[02:23] <nikosgr> how i tell ubuntu to start gami at boot time?
[02:23] <lastnode> leggy, try apt-get linux-sources
[02:23] <nikosgr> gaim i mean
[02:24] <orbin> lastnode: widget as in update-mgr? thanks but no thanks
[02:24] <dli> leggy, sudo apt-get install linux-sources
[02:24] <roryy> nikosgr: system -> preferences -> sessions, startup programs
[02:24] <lastnode> nikosgr, when you boot in to your wm? both gnome and kde have that option, o think
[02:24] <ompaul> nikosgr, system preferences sessions has a tab for starup
[02:24] <stevietool> lastnode: I'm not really sure...after a fresh install where my wired-eth was the primary...I added my config of my wireless ...that worked for weeks
[02:24] <lastnode> *i
[02:24] <nikosgr> from console?
[02:24] <lastnode> steveb, what does iwconfig -a give you?
[02:24] <ompaul> nikosgr, no gaim is graphic and so is that method
[02:24] <steveb> lastnode: huh?
[02:24] <Eftarjin> i'm trying to build a kernel with the "Realtime-Preemtion" patch (as explained here : http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Dapper:Vanilla_Kernel_With_Realtime_Preemption ) but i've an error while compiling (about a missing reference to "debug_check_no_locks_freed")
[02:24] <Eftarjin> can I solve this ?
[02:24] <nikosgr> i see
[02:25] <lastnode> steveb, sorry, bad nick completion
[02:25] <lastnode> :)
[02:25] <nikosgr> the executable of gaim is in /usr/bin ?
[02:25] <leggy> he couldnt find linux-sources
[02:25] <orbin> roryy: thanksthanks soundray
[02:25] <steveb> ah
[02:25] <dli> leggy, sudo apt-get install linux-source , sorry for the wrong line :(
[02:25] <lastnode> stevietool, what does iwconfig - agive you?
[02:25] <steveb> stab the tab
[02:25] <zool2005> do many people use voip on linux?
[02:25] <lastnode> leggy, sorry for the s at the end
[02:25] <soundray> zool2005: how much is many?
[02:25] <lastnode> zool2005, ive used skype
[02:25] <dli> leggy, anyway, learn to use "apt-cache search linux-source"
[02:25] <Giorno> This channel seems to be moving at a million miles per hour and I have a very noobish question, how do I install Flash Player on ubuntu?
[02:25] <lastnode> ubotu, tell Giorno about flash
[02:26] <ompaul> nikosgr, gaim is /usr/bin/gaim
[02:26] <zool2005> i use skype but its a bit buggy somtimes, does anyone use anything else?
[02:26] <lastnode> Giorno, check your pm :)
[02:26] <simonpca> plop
[02:26] <dli> zool2005, ekiga
[02:26] <ubuntu> ,llklkk
[02:26] <soundray> ubuntu: test worked
[02:26] <ubuntu> zes
[02:27] <Eftarjin> Giorno: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28formats%29%7C%28restricted%29#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[02:27] <ubuntu> yes
[02:27] <zool2005> dli, what's it like?
[02:27] <stevietool> lastnode:he gives my essid, key...radio off; link quality 0, channel 0...
[02:27] <soundray> Eftarjin: posting the URL up to the question mark is sufficient.
[02:27] <steveb> stevietool: do you have a button for turning wifi on and off?
[02:27] <leggy> now i have to install linux-source-2.6.12?!
[02:27] <lastnode> stevietool, no gui i assume? so where exactly does it fail?
[02:28] <doms> what is blimp
[02:28] <creatureofSpace> bay
[02:28] <Giorno> thanks lastnode
[02:28] <steveb> an RF kill switch i think its called
[02:28] <lastnode> leggy, the appended number is your kernel number
[02:28] <leggy> yes i think so
[02:28] <lastnode> er not think so leggy , it is :)
[02:29] <lastnode> do a uname -r, and you should see that
[02:30] <stevietool> lastnode: my wireless works, config is ok, I just give ifup eth1 in and he says that he cant send my web_key
[02:30] <leggy> yes...but for what do i need it? i want to install alsa 1.0.11
[02:30] <leggy> and maybe i need the linux source...
[02:30] <doms> what is blimp
[02:30] <tech> humm... im totely new to this but aint it more easy to just dobble click on a install file than going in to terminal and write a hole much things :P ?
[02:30] <leggy> because he doesnt find it while installing alsa
[02:31] <stevietool> lastnode: message: ipw2200 failed to send web_key command...have no idea
[02:31] <orbin> tech: heard of synaptic?
[02:32] <tech> im not good in english but what is synaptic+
[02:32] <tech> ?
[02:32] <beta_m> tech:  synaptic package manager
[02:32] <tech> where do i get that?
[02:32] <orbin> tech: sys > admin > synaptic
[02:32] <tech> thanks
[02:33] <orbin> tech: installing stuff manually is usually for specialised cases.  usually you can find what you need in there
[02:33] <orbin> ubotu: tell tech about synaptic
[02:33] <orbin> ubotu: tell tech about repos
[02:33] <tech> orbin: okey thanks =) but i have firefox in english here and I want it in norwegian. how do I upgrade it to norwegian?
[02:34] <orbin> tech: dunno. i only speak english so have never had to convert apps...i think it's something to do w/ localisation (or something)
[02:34] <soundray> tech: install the package mozilla-firefox-locale-nb-no through synaptic
[02:35] <orbin> tech: there you go :)
[02:35] <tech> soundray: thanks gonna try =)
[02:35] <nono> join #ubuntu-fr
[02:36] <orbin> bruinm: ooi, what was the point of that?
[02:37] <xeiter> hi how do add a second language in Ubuntu and make it change between languages with Ctrl + Shift?
[02:37] <expat> Anyone have any experience with Kubuntu as a virtual machine on VMWare?
[02:37] <bsch> yes~~
[02:37] <tech> orbin: okey i found it but how tha h*** do i install it? :P hehe
[02:37] <bsch> i use VMWare in XP
[02:37] <dli> xeiter, sudo apt-get install scim
[02:38] <yereth> hi girls
[02:38] <xeiter> dli: thanks
[02:38] <yereth> anyone know what happened to my repository?:
[02:38] <yereth> Err http://no.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Sources
[02:38] <yereth>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[02:38] <yereth> for example
[02:38] <dli> xeiter, sudo apt-cache search scim|less , find your language, and install the package also
[02:38] <Howitzer> Does anybody know of any Ubuntu news sites?
[02:38] <orbin> tech: did you see the synaptic howo page ubotu sent you?
[02:38] <expat> bsch: I'm having trouble installing vmware tools.
[02:38] <orbin> tech: right-click > mark for install ... then click on apply at the top
[02:38] <bsch> what's trouble?
[02:38] <dli> xeiter, you may have to choose your language before login in gdm
[02:39] <bsch> yes
[02:39] <bsch> the guess OS, which OS?
[02:39] <tech> orbin: thanks I made ity work GOD bless linux :D
[02:39] <expat> bsch: XP
[02:39] <orbin> tech: firefox is in norwegian now?
[02:39] <yereth> people, why can't I access the no.archive.ubuntu.com repository?
[02:39] <bsch> what's trouble?
[02:39] <tech> orbin: yes ;)
[02:40] <orbin> Howitzer: ubuntu.com/news
[02:40] <xeiter> dli: thanks man    working on it now
[02:40] <bsch> i'm install XP in VMWare have not any trouble?
[02:40] <creatureofSpace> !ru
[02:40] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:40] <maswan> yereth: do you have a non-working ipv6 setup?
[02:40] <Howitzer> ty
[02:40] <Howitzer> oh
[02:40] <yereth> maswan: no idea.. why?
[02:40] <bsch> the guest OS is XP, and the HOST OS is XP
[02:40] <Howitzer> but i mean like a community-driven newssite
[02:40] <expat> bsch: it says it can't find the correct vrrhgfs module to run the kernel.
[02:41] <stevietool> lastnode-afk: any ideas?
[02:41] <maswan> yereth: Well, I can access it fine. But it also resolves with a v6 adress. Which is no problem if you either don't run ipv6 at all, or if you have a working ipv6 setup. If you have a non-working setup it might cause breakage, I think.
[02:41] <expat> Oops: The host is XP, the guest is Kubuntu.
[02:41] <ocult> hello
[02:41] <yereth> maswan: so any suggestions?
[02:41] <ocult> after install vnc server .. need configure something ?
[02:41] <yereth> last week I could still do my updates
[02:42] <ccc_> Howitzer: http://fridge.ubuntu.com (community news) http://planet.ubuntu.com (dev blogs)
[02:42] <maswan> yereth: what is the error message?
[02:42] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i want to create a new partition beside ubuntu, do i have to defragmentate just like in windows
[02:42] <bsch> expat: i don't know what's trouble with you
[02:42] <orbin> Howitzer: the forum maybe?  dunno.
[02:42] <Fujitsu> No, Azertyuuu.
[02:42] <yereth> maswan: hold on.. will put it in pastebin
[02:42] <Howitzer> ty ccc_  :-)
[02:42] <expat> bsch: thanks anyway
[02:43] <orbin> ccc_: ah, sweet links
[02:43] <orbin> Azertyuuu: depends on what FS you make the partition
[02:43] <bsch> expat, are you chinese?
[02:43] <Azertyuuu> and i think to format it as FAT32, than it is possible to write on it in MS and Linux right ?
[02:43] <expat> bsch: no, I'm American, but living in Thailand.
[02:43] <fishscience> bsch, you are chinese ?
[02:44] <orbin> Azertyuuu: yes, fat32 has rw support
[02:44] <bsch> fishscience, yes i'm chinese
[02:44] <ocult> hello
[02:44] <ocult> somebody here have vnc server ?
[02:44] <yereth> maswan: http://pastebin.com/690208
[02:44] <bsch> expat, what's HOST OS?
[02:44] <yereth> sources.list + output of apt-get update
[02:44] <fishscience> bschso am i
[02:44] <expat> bsch: XP
[02:44] <bsch> ^:^
[02:45] <sHaDe> Melandri c'
[02:45] <maswan> yereth: ok, so no clue from me there.
[02:45] <fishscience> I am first time here  :)
[02:45] <maswan> yereth: sorry, I don't know
[02:45] <bsch> HOST OS is XP, and GUESS OS is XP also?
[02:45] <soundray> ocult, do you have a support query or is this a survey?
[02:45] <yereth> ... :(
[02:45] <Azertyuuu> orbin: do you know a good prog to partionionate in KDE
[02:45] <expat> bsch: No, I misspoke. The guest is Kubuntu.
[02:45] <yereth> anyone else who knows what's up with ubuntu repository?
[02:45] <soundray> Azertyuuu: qtparted
[02:45] <lastnode-afk> yereth, try another repo
[02:46] <yereth> maswan: thanx for your time :)
[02:46] <merio> hello
[02:46] <yereth> lastnode-afk: do you have one? Or a website to find a local up-to-date repository?
[02:46] <bsch> your mean your are use XP, and install VMWare in XP, and want to install Kubuntu into VMware?
[02:46] <bsch> ??
[02:46] <lastnode-afk> yereth, try lk.
[02:46] <Dark-Night> http://skype.com/download/skype/linux/ which one of them should i download?
[02:46] <yereth> lk?
[02:47] <soundray> Dark-Night: better get skype through easyubuntu
[02:47] <expat> bsch: Yes, exactly.
[02:47] <soundray> !easyubuntu
[02:47] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:47] <ocult> soundray, i wanna use vnc here..
[02:47] <luisito> in the upgrade to dapper the login.defs file should be replaced with the new version?
[02:47] <ocult> soundray, after install vnc server. need configure something ?
[02:47] <fishscience> bsch: where are you from?
[02:47] <BSCH> in fact, you maybe not install VMWare tools
[02:48] <benoitc> mmm how toonfigure a french apple pro keyboard for X & console?
[02:48] <Dark-Night> what is easyubuntu?
[02:48] <BSCH> Henan ~~
[02:48] <soundray> ocult: are you on Ubuntu?
[02:48] <benoitc> s/tonfigure/to configure/
[02:48] <_jason> luisito: backup your old one and use the newer version is what I would recommend.  After the upgrade is over take a look at the differences using the 'diff' command
[02:48] <Azertyuuu> if i select the linux partitiion, i can choose from "property, format, delete and set active" . Which one do i have to choose to make a new part.
[02:48] <raptros-v76> !tell Dark-Night about easyubuntu
[02:48] <ocult> soundray, yes
[02:48] <BSCH> if the guess OS is linux, i always not to intall VMware~
[02:48] <creatureofSpace> !help
[02:48] <expat> bsch: You're saying it's not possible?
[02:48] <orbin> ubotu: tell yereth about sources
[02:48] <BSCH> YES, if GUESS OS is linux
[02:49] <orbin> yereth: there's also #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues
[02:49] <xeiter> is there any way to check if a program is already installed in Ubuntu ? for example i want to get apache and mysql...... how can I check whather i have apache and mysql already sintalled but they are just not turned on
[02:49] <BSCH> but if the guess os is MS OS, it's possible
[02:49] <dli> isn't ubuntu easy enough?
[02:49] <merio> i have a geforce256 and i want to install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com for it. the driver version is 7174; it complains that i'm using gcc4.0 and not 3.4 as im supposed to. how can i make the installer use gcc-3.4 (which i got from apt-get install gcc-3.4)....?
[02:49] <yereth> bless you orbin
[02:49] <soundray> xeiter, dpkg -l
[02:49] <dli> merio, read the ubuntu nvidia howto
[02:49] <gfxstyler> hi
[02:49] <bakert> hi
[02:49] <BSCH> if you not install VMWare tools, it not have display driver and not have other driver
[02:50] <dj-fu> GCC_VERSION or something like that. I forget.
[02:50] <gfxstyler> how can i mount a specific partition so that it has certain user rights ?
[02:50] <Azertyuuu> orbin:  i can't resize the ext3 part
[02:50] <xeiter> soundray: thanks man
[02:50] <bakert> gfxstyle: to do with umask,dmask settings???  (i dont really know)
[02:50] <gfxstyler> i mounted an ext3 partition to /data and i can even write/read from it as user, but i cant run any apps from that one
[02:50] <BSCH> if the guess OS is Linux, the Linux support VMware simulate hardware~
[02:50] <soundray> gfxstyler: you don't. You set access rights per file/directory
[02:50] <orbin> Azertyuuu: i'm deferring to soundray. i've never use qtparted
[02:51] <gfxstyler> soundray: the problem is: i cant compile anything on that partition, and i cant run any app too
[02:51] <FabParmaITA> sorry, i downloaded Ubuntu and installed, but unfortunetelly was a "live version". where can i find the installing Ubuntu version, thank you
[02:51] <gfxstyler> but if i copy it to the root partition, its working
[02:51] <Chri[s] > hrm
[02:51] <soundray> gfxstyler: have you mounted it with the noexec option?
[02:51] <gfxstyler> soundray: no, i think i mounted it with noatime,users
[02:52] <orbin> FabParmaITA: get the install cd off the website
[02:52] <gnomefreak> FabParmaITA: what version of ubuntu did you get?
[02:52] <crisen__> can i install the basesystem via http/ftp apt-get with the normal install cd?
[02:53] <gfxstyler> soundray: example: make: execvp: ./bin/app: Permission denied
[02:53] <FabParmaITA> gnomefreak: 5.10
[02:53] <crisen__> ive burnt an install cd, though the cd is scratched and is having problems completing the baseinstall
[02:53] <soundray> gfxstyler: try chmod -R u+rwx /data/dir-with-sources ; then try again
[02:54] <FabParmaITA> Ubunto is only live cd or there is an installing version?  thank you
[02:54] <bakert> FabParmaITA: there is an installing version too
[02:54] <Curtman> Why is creating a deb such a royal pain in the butt?  Isn't there an easy way if I want to just make a deb for a newer version of some already existing deb?  (the graphviz deb in dapper is disgustingly old BTW)
[02:54] <gnomefreak> FabParmaITA: dapper (not yet released) has a live cd installer
[02:55] <bakert> FabParmaITA: or with "dapper drake" you can install FROM the livecd
[02:55] <gfxstyler> soundray: still the same :/ thats bugging me for weeks already
[02:55] <gnomefreak> FabParmaITA: if you want breezy download the install cd
[02:55] <orbin> ubotu: tell Curtman about motu
[02:55] <Curtman> orbin: Thanks
[02:55] <soundray> crisen__: try entering "server" at the boot: prompt. If you're lucky, it'll install a minimal ubuntu, which you can then update via the network.
[02:56] <orbin> Curtman: that wasn't how to create a deb btw, it was how to bug the universe maintainers to update a package :)
[02:56] <luisito> _jason: thank you
[02:56] <FabParmaITA> gnomefreak: so, all people usin Ubuntu in live mode?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> FabParmaITA: no we install ubuntu ;)
[02:56] <gfxstyler> soundray: i maybe know why, the directory is just a symbolic link
[02:56] <soundray> gfxstyler: when you enter 'mount' by itself, does it report anything significantly different between / and /data ?
[02:57] <gfxstyler> soundray: like this: /home/gfxstyler/dir  -> points to /data/bla/dir
[02:57] <Curtman> orbin: Ahhhh..  Gentoo packages are soooo simple to update, but the system is a PITA otherwise..  If only debs were that easy, Ubuntu would rule the universe.  ;)
[02:57] <soundray> gfxstyler: that shouldn't really matter
[02:57] <gfxstyler> soundray: what?! it says noexec
[02:58] <gfxstyler> /dev/hda5 on /data type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime)
[02:58] <soundray> gfxstyler: there you go ;)
[02:58] <gfxstyler> soundray: but why? i didnt put noexec in fstab
[02:58] <FabParmaITA> please, i sak again. All Ubuntu users has to start form a bootable cd every time?
[02:58] <orbin> Curtman: re: making deb files from source...heard of checkinstall?
[02:58] <FabParmaITA> ask
[02:58] <soundray> gfxstyler: try mounting with defaults
[02:58] <gfxstyler> soundray: okay
[02:59] <Curtman> orbin: Nope.. I've been wading through various forms of 'Debian maintainers guide', and my head is spinning.  I'll google it, thanks.
[02:59] <KenSentMe> FabParmaITA: what do you mean? When u first install ubuntu u have to do that from a bootable device
[02:59] <orbin> ubotu: tell Curtman about checkinstall
[02:59] <soundray> FabParmaITA: perhaps people aren't quite clear what you mean. Have you asked in #ubuntu-it ?
[03:00] <gfxstyler> soundray: its working !!
[03:00] <gfxstyler> soundray: thank you so much!
[03:00] <FabParmaITA> soundray:  no, i don knew that channel
[03:00] <Curtman> orbin: Thanks again.
[03:00] <soundray> gfxstyler: it's possible (just guessing) that users implies noexec
[03:00] <orbin> Curtman: no worries
[03:00] <_jason> soundray: it does
[03:01] <_jason> heh I just read that a few hours ago
[03:01] <ic56> FabParmaITA: there are both live and an installed versions of ubuntu.
[03:01] <soundray> Thanks _jason. There you go, gfxstyler
[03:01] <gfxstyler> soundray: i used to use the "users" option as the partition was vfat, but now i formatted it as ext3, maybe thats different
[03:01] <Pluk> defaults are nosuid nodev and noexec
[03:01] <soundray> gfxstyler: yes, vfat always makes everything executable by default
[03:01] <FabParmaITA> soundray: i just wuold like to know if Ubuntu is live cd only, or it is possible to install it on an hard disk
[03:01] <ic56> FabParmaITA: you need to download the right one.
[03:01] <gfxstyler> soundray: so that was the reason :)
[03:01] <ic56> FabParmaITA: there are both live and an installed versions of ubuntu.
[03:02] <soundray> FabParmaITA: you can install it on a hard disk drive, but you have to get the installer CD (same place where you got the live one)
[03:02] <FabParmaITA> ic56: i didnt find in the site,
[03:02] <orbin> FabParmaITA: there's a livecd, an installcd and a dvd which you can run live and install from.  all can be found at ubuntu.com/download
[03:03] <FabParmaITA> soundray: please, can you give me the relese name or code, thankx
[03:03] <dli> orbin, what's the liveDVD link?
[03:03] <bakert> FabParmaITA: 5.10 Breezy Badger
[03:03] <strav> he.
[03:04] <orbin> dli: i'm pretty sure you get it via: www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:04] <FabParmaITA> bakert: is it a stable release?
[03:04] <orbin> FabParmaITA: it's the latest stable release, yes
[03:04] <ic56> FabParmITA: it's on the site.  Goto: http://www.ubuntu.com/Welcome  There are links for "Install CDs" and "Live CDs"
[03:04] <FabParmaITA> orbin: thankx a lot
[03:04] <FabParmaITA> bye
[03:04] <dli> orbin, good, dvd by bittorrent
[03:05] <orbin> dli: yep
[03:08] <steel_> everytime one of my friends trys connecting to my computer (through windows) it asks for a password, i try putting in the pass for my username and it doesnt work. Any ideas? I'm using samba
[03:08] <soundray> Friends, have you any idea where I can get support for R (statistical computing) related stuff?
[03:08] <soundray> steel_: samba usernames and passwords are independent of the standard ones.
[03:08] <lolownik> Can I install ubuntu on a dos extended partition ?
[03:09] <soundray> lolownik: no
[03:09] <steel_> how do i set and preferably remove the need
[03:09] <soundray> lolownik: you have to create a logical partition inside the extended one.
[03:09] <soundray> steel_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba ; look for smbpasswd
[03:09] <lsuactiafner> steel_ : use user nobody
[03:10] <lsuactiafner> when prompted
[03:10] <Hexidigital> has anyone here that tried to use XGL experienced a compiz.real - could not find display error?
[03:10] <steel_> thank you
[03:10] <lolownik> soundray,  logical in extended??
[03:10] <soundray> lolownik: yes, that's how it works.
[03:11] <orbin> what's the easiest way of deleting my windows partition on this dualboot machine and making a new partition for backup purposes w/ the freed space?  and will it impact grub?
[03:11] <lolownik> this can be done with linux's fdisk, yes?
[03:11] <lolownik> ah. ok right
[03:11] <soundray> orbin: keep the partition, just format it with mke2fs -j, won't bother grub
[03:11] <lolownik> thanks.
[03:12] <dli> Hexidigital, #ubuntu-xgl
[03:12] <dli> Hexidigital, or #xgl
[03:12] <orbin> soundray: sweet. so as easy as mke2fs -j <windows partition>?
[03:12] <Hexidigital> dli, they were no help
[03:13] <Hexidigital> i didn't try ubuntu-xgl
[03:13] <soundray> orbin: to be safe, remove the 'title' section from /boot/grub/menu.lst that refers to the windows partition.
[03:13] <Hexidigital> thanks, dli
[03:13] <soundray> orbin: exactly
[03:14] <soundray> orbin: after you've backed up everything you loved about your windows partition of course ;)
[03:14] <orbin> soundray: nothing on there really. :)
[03:14] <orbin> soundray: can i run that command now safely? or should i boot into recovery mode or something?
[03:15] <sword-> what's a good program to determine your case temperature, etc?
[03:15] <orbin> sword-: gkrellm works for me
[03:15] <soundray> orbin: it'll be fine. Recovery mode is recommended if you want to change the partition table, which you don't.
[03:15] <ic56> orbin: but you should umount the filesystem first
[03:16] <stevietool> someone who can help me out with the following wirelles failure message: ipw2200 cna't send wep_key command ?
[03:16] <soundray> orbin: well, maybe you do. You should change the partition type to 83, but you can do that before the next reboot.
[03:16] <orbin> sword-: http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4tz.png gkrellm's on the right
[03:17] <orbin> soundray: change partition type?  how would i do that?
[03:18] <Godis> HI
[03:18] <sword-> cool orbin , yeah for some reason certain sensr software hasn't worked in the past
[03:19] <soundray> orbin: first, heed ic56's advice of course. Call sudo fdisk and hit p <return> to see the partition table, t for type (answer the questions), w to actually write the changes, then reboot immediately.
[03:20] <orbin> soundray: doesn't fdisk just print the table?  do you mean cfdisk?
[03:20] <ic56> soundray,orbin: no need to reboot after the fdisk.
[03:20] <soundray> orbin: no
[03:20] <mirak> can grub boot on a /boot partition which is in fat32 ?
[03:20] <doms> php so rid
[03:20] <orbin> soundray: oh, sorry....too used to fsidk -l :)
[03:20] <soundray> ic56: the whole change is cosmetic anyway -- isn't it?
[03:20] <orbin> s/fsidk/fdisk
[03:21] <orbin> ok, i'm gonna run the mke2fs command now
[03:21] <soundray> orbin: have you unmounted?
[03:22] <ic56> sounday: changing the partitition type to 83? yes, it isn't necessary -- just good maintenance.
[03:22] <orbin> soundray: it wasn't mounted in the first place.  basically i only installed windows b/c i though i might need it for work (this isn't a gaming computer)...turns out i don't.
[03:22] <Godis> HOW DO I GET MA FLOPPY TO WORK
[03:22] <Godis> MA COMP THINKS ITS A HARDDRIVE
[03:22] <stevietool> any wireless specialist here?
[03:22] <ic56> orbin: umount the filesystem first.
[03:23] <Steff_breezy> hello, from time to time, my nautilus desktop behaves strange, new icons are not shown anymore, can this somehow be "resettet"?
[03:23] <soundray> Godis: turn of your caps lock first
[03:23] <soundray> *off
[03:23] <orbin> ic56: as in / ?
[03:23] <Godis> so
[03:23] <soundray> orbin: no
[03:23] <Godis> thanx
[03:23] <orbin> what filesystem then?
[03:24] <ic56> orbin: no. as in the windows partition you want to destroy.  If it's mounted, unmount it first.
[03:24] <Godis> sondray
[03:24] <soundray> Godis: have a look at the mtools package.
[03:24] <orbin> ic56: yeah, like i said, already unmounted
[03:24] <ic56> orbin: good.
[03:24] <Godis> Soundray , did u get my question
[03:24] <Godis> oki
[03:24] <orbin> ok, mk32fs finished, (that was quick), but fdisk -l still shows ntfs
[03:24] <orbin> soundray, ic56 :  is that what you meant by changing the part. type?
[03:25] <soundray> orbin: exactly.
[03:25] <orbin> soundray: ah
[03:25] <orbin> ok, running fdisk now
[03:25] <Godis> Soundray, where do i find MTOOLS
[03:25] <orbin> soundray: ok, sudo fdisk just prints out the command usage
[03:26] <Exxcaliber> Hey Guys.. I just deleted a file called /etc/mediaarpm or something like that
[03:26] <soundray> Godis: sudo apt-get install mtools
[03:26] <ic56> orbin, soundray: mk32fs? is that the one for windows filesystems?
[03:26] <Exxcaliber> Would anyone please paste it to me in priv?
[03:26] <soundray> orbin: sudo fdisk /dev/hda or whatever
[03:26] <Steff_breezy> when I put a new file on the desktop, the file is not shown on the nautilus desktop,  is there any solution to this?
[03:26] <orbin> soundray: yeah, forgot the device :)
[03:26] <Steff_breezy> this happens every once in a while
[03:27] <_jason> Steff_breezy: are you sure it is not behind another icon? (that happens to me sometimes)
[03:27] <_jason> Steff_breezy: try right clicking on desktop and doing ``clean up by name''
[03:28] <Exxcaliber> I Just deleted a file called /etc/mediaarpm, would anyone please care to paste the file in a private message to me, so that i can restore it?
[03:28] <Steff_breezy> _jason, ok, that solved it, thanks
[03:28] <orbin> soundray, ic56 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13144
[03:28] <orbin> what do i enter?
[03:28] <soundray> orbin: 83
[03:28] <orbin> ah
[03:29] <orbin> soundray: sweet.  part. table reflected the change
[03:29] <soundray> Exxcaliber: why don't you just apt-get --reinstall install fdutils
[03:30] <Exxcaliber> soundray i didn't know I could do that, what will then happen?
[03:30] <rambo3> esplode
[03:31] <soundray> Exxcaliber: it will overwrite all the files in the fdutils package (dpkg -L fdutils to list them all), regenerating your /etc/ file in the process.
[03:31] <Exxcaliber> soundray, anyways something with my internet connection is messed up so no connection to the repositories
[03:31] <soundray> Exxcaliber: it will work without if the deb is still in the cache.
[03:32] <Exxcaliber> cool
[03:32] <Exxcaliber> I'll check it out.. Thx for ya help
[03:32] <orbin> soundray: ok, i made an fstab line by copying the one for /home but i can't get write access to the new partition it seems.  here's the line i used: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ext3    defaults        0       2  ... does that look okay?
[03:33] <Exxcaliber> soundray are you like the author of fdutils, since you knew that mediarpm was part of that package!? :D
[03:33] <soundray> orbin: looks good. Did you do mount /media/hda1 after that?
[03:33] <soundray> Exxcaliber: no, I looked it up.
[03:33] <orbin> soundray: i did a mount -a after i edited fstab
[03:34] <soundray> orbin: with sudo, you should get write access.
[03:34] <tkhobbes> Hi all, I testwise started an ubuntu 6.06 beta 2 from cd. My Intellimouse works all of a sudden. :) where can I find the mouse settings in order to investigate its entries?
[03:35] <_jason> tkhobbes: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <soundray> tkhobbes: they'll be part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <orbin> soundray: yep, sudo worked.  how come i need root privileges w/ this partition, but not with /home if i just copied the line?
[03:35] <tkhobbes> jason: that's right - I found them already. however, it's more about the scrollwheel and thumb-buttons
[03:35] <jablotronik> hi, please do you know any software for control cpu fan speed ?
[03:35] <soundray> orbin: because fstab doesn't determine permissions for directories.
[03:35] <_jason> tkhobbes: not sure what you are asking
[03:36] <soundray> orbin: they are determined per file and per directory. Change them with chmod.
[03:36] <orbin> soundray: ah, so chmod /media/hda1?
[03:36] <rambo3> it can be some gnome thing with mouse buttons
[03:36] <tkhobbes> _jason: Mousewheel and thumb buttons do not work in my other distro and I never got them working. However, the settings in Ubuntu seem right from scratch - where do I find them?
[03:36] <soundray> orbin: if you want to change the base dir of the new file system, which is probably not recommended, unless you trust all of your users.
[03:36] <ic56> orbin: /media is meant for removable media not internal disks.  Think up a good name, like /backup and mount your new filesystem there.
[03:37] <soundray> orbin: and you need to give chmod the permissions you want. Read info chmod
[03:37] <orbin> ic56: i see, thanks
[03:37] <orbin> soundray: yep, i'll read the man page.  thanks for all your help
[03:38] <orbin> ic56: you too
[03:38] <soundray> orbin: it's in the info page, not that man afaik
[03:38] <nikosgr> hello
[03:38] <nikosgr> iam still ahving prolem configuring apache2.conf
[03:39] <ic56> orbin: the root of your new filesystem is owned by user root.  How do you intend to use it?  Will you be manually copying stuff in there as user orbin or will you be running some kind of automated backup tool tht will back files not just owned by but by everyone in the system?
[03:39] <_jason> tkhobbes: afaik the xorg.conf file is what will get X to properly recognize the buttons.  Are you asking which part in specific would affect those buttons?  In that case, probably Buttons and Zaxis
[03:39] <mikomiko> Hello, how do i run my gmail notifier
[03:39] <mikomiko> I have downloaded it but dont know how to start it
[03:39] <_jason> mikomiko: did you install gmail-notify from the repositories?
[03:39] <mikomiko> No
[03:40] <orbin> ic56: well, i just wanted to get rid of windows first off :)  i dunno, i'll probably just end up chucking stuff there when i feel like it
[03:40] <mikomiko> I downloaded it dont know how to install it to repositories
[03:40] <tkhobbes> _jason: got that. don't I need imwheel or something additionally?
[03:40] <orbin> ic56: i don't plan to do an automated backup or anything if that's what you mean
[03:40] <mikomiko> i downloaded it to /home/mikomiko/gmail-notify/
[03:40] <_jason> mikomiko: do you know how to use synaptic?
[03:40] <_jason> !info gmail-notify
[03:41] <ubotu> gmail-notify: (gmail new mail notifier), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[03:41] <ic56> orbin: in that case, the best strategy is to leave the permissions as they are, then sudo mkdir /backup/orbin then chown orbin:orbin /backup/orbin then chmod 700 /backup/orbin   Thereafter, you can just dump files into /backup/orbin -- you own that directory and noone else can see what's inside it.
[03:41] <_jason> tkhobbes: I doubt that dapper would set that up for you, have you tried using 'xev' to see if your buttons are being properly recognized?  If they are then all you would need is imwheel or xbindkeys to make them do what you want
[03:42] <mikomiko> got it
[03:42] <mikomiko> TY
[03:42] <ic56> orbin: this allows for a future use of creating /backup/orbin's-wife :-)
[03:42] <_jason> mikomiko: it should show up in the internet menu under applications once you install it
[03:42] <orbin> ic56: lol, thanks very much for the step-by-step rundown.
[03:43] <steel_> how do i view windows computers' shared files with samba?
[03:43] <_jason> tkhobbes: but I can't say with certainty that dapper isn't doing something behind the scenes.  Might want to try #ubuntu+1 where more dapper users tend to be
[03:43] <tkhobbes> _jason: that's what I was asking: buttons and wheel are recognized correctly - at least, they are working "out-of-the-box" (life-cd). How's that? my other distro's xorg.conf settings are exactly the same and wheel / tumb-buttons don't work
[03:44] <beta_m> i have a FAT32 partition mounted with read and write priviledges for all, but i can only write to that partition via sudo, what is wrong?
[03:44] <|lostbyte|> balrog-kun: i get "vfs: cannot open root device "hda5" pr unknown-block(0,0)" and "Please append a correct root= boot option" "Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" any idea ?
[03:44] <|lostbyte|> pr/or*
[03:44] <mjr> beta_m, clearly you don't have it mounted with read and write priviledges for all
[03:44] <immolo> you didn't mount with the users opion beta_m
[03:44] <_jason> tkhobbes: does your other distro catch the back and forward buttons when you run xev?
[03:44] <|lostbyte|> i just compiled my new kernel.. and i get the abbove ?
[03:44] <tkhobbes> _jason: no (it's gentoo, btw)
[03:45] <mjr> beta_m, how do you figure you have it rw for all?
[03:45] <soundray> steel_: you don't. Samba is for sharing local filesystems.
[03:45] <_jason> tkhobbes: same Xorg version?
[03:45] <steel_> how do i view windows shared files then?
[03:45] <beta_m> error, it's only read/write for my user not for all... simple ls -l tells me this, and i see that in fstab file
[03:45] <tkhobbes> _jason: is dapper already on 7.0?
[03:45] <soundray> steel_: try Places-Network Servers
[03:46] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| maybe you forgot to include the drivers for your filesystem!? or maybe you wrote the wrong parameters for your bootloader!?
[03:46] <steel_> heh ok *blush*
[03:46] <orbin> ic56: ok, hope i'm not being ignorant here, but why can't i create the dir?  i get: mkdir: cannot create directory `/backup/orbin': No such file or directory ... and yes, i used sudo
[03:46] <beta_m> immolo:  what are "users option?
[03:46] <_jason> tkhobbes: yes 7.0, mind moving to #ubuntu+1 ?
[03:46] <immolo> beta_m, where you put rw also put users
[03:46] <ic56> orbin: it should work.  Did you umount /media/hda1 and mount it on /backup/orbin ?
[03:47] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: cant be the first, because i did make oldconfig.
[03:47] <_jason> tkhobbes: (just to keep the channels organized)
[03:47] <tkhobbes> _jason: yep
[03:47] <orbin> ic56: it's still mounted.  but that wouldn't matter would it?  this is just a dir creation
[03:47] <beta_m> immolo:  it's a usb drive, how where do i have it then?
[03:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell simonpca about away
[03:47] <soundray> orbin: try mkdir -p
[03:47] <ic56> orbin: does /backup exist?
[03:48] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| strange.. I have had that error a couple of times.. did you backup your old kernel!?, and almost everytime it had something to do with the disks, like arpm / acpi or the filesystem modules
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: which part in grub you feel is wrong ?
[03:48] <orbin> ic56: no
[03:48] <ic56> orbin: i.e. did you mkdir /backup ?
[03:48] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| the one defining your root partition
[03:48] <Exxcaliber> and you boot directory
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: i'll type it here..
[03:49] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| dont paste too much
[03:49] <ic56> soundray's advice (mkdir -p) will work but it won't do what you need done.  Since your intent is to mount the filesystem at /backup, you don't want to create /backup/orbin until you've mounted the filesystem.
[03:49] <orbin> soundray: thanks
[03:49] <orbin> ic56: oh?
[03:49] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: ok
[03:49] <orbin> so what should i er, do...
[03:49] <ic56> orbin: you want the orbin directory to be created *insdie* the filesystem.
[03:49] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: title kernel_name
[03:50] <beta_m> ok, i really don't understand now... it is definitely rw. when i type mount it gives me "/dev/sdb1 on /media/REMOVE type vfat (rw,[...] )"
[03:50] <ic56> orbin: when you mount a filesystem, it hides whatever was at the mount point.
[03:50] <soundray> ic56: you are much better than I at sussing out what people actually want... I'll try and pick that up from you.
[03:50] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: root        (hd0,4)
[03:50] <Exxcaliber> and your  root partition is on /hda4?
[03:50] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: nope ! hda5
[03:51] <Exxcaliber> okay...
[03:51] <ic56> soundray: just paying attention to what orbin's been saying.  You're fielding questions from many more people, so your attention is more devided.
[03:51] <Exxcaliber> try (hd0,5) <- im not certain.. but it makes sense to me :)
[03:51] <ic56> (divided)
[03:51] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-rc3 root=/dev/hda5
[03:51] <|lostbyte|> Exposure: ok !
[03:52] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: and last is "boot"
[03:52] <Das-Herrkurm> btw, how do i uninstall applications/programs whicjh i have installed from .run packages
[03:52] <soundray> ic56: that's a very benevolent way of framing it ;)
[03:52] <odin_> okay, this might not be a linux question, but is there any way to force-delete something that says it's on a read-only disk when it's not
[03:52] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| i must admit im not much into the grub config, but if changing it to (hd0,5) doesnt help, then check out the documentation for the grub config
[03:52] <ic56> soundray: you're doing a great job of answering questions here. Thank you!
[03:52] <orbin> ic56: so i don't need to make /backup/orbin ?
[03:52] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: ok ! i changed it. rebooting now..
[03:53] <Exxcaliber> kk
[03:53] <verdee> i'm a ppc user and i'm reading the wiki about the codecs... i discover i can't see mpeg, mov etc, that's right?
[03:53] <Das-Herrkurm> btw, how do i uninstall applications/programs which i have installed from .run packages such as enemy territory. The add/remove doesnt show it
[03:53] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: Now i get Error 15:File not found
[03:54] <Exxcaliber> else just grab a standard kernel from the ubuntu livecd ;) and then change your kernel, step by step, so that you'll eventually figure out what module you are missing / what module is wrong
[03:54] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte|.. sux..
[03:54] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| try using a standard kernel, just to get the grub config right..
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: before that error it tells me the grub config..
[03:54] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| well, to make sure its right
[03:54] <soundray> ic56: thanks for your encouragement.
[03:54] <ic56> orbin: let's put it this way: you want to create directory `orbin' inside the new filesystem.  If the filesystem is still mounte at /media/hda1 then you can create with: mkdir /media/hda1/orbin  When you unmount it and then mount it at /backup , you will discover that orbin is now under /backup . Which makes sense.  You created the directory inside that filesystem.
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: standard kernel ?
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> meaning..
[03:55] <Exxcaliber> Sry |lostbyte| but this is as far as i can help you..
[03:55] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: np :)
[03:55] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| standard kernel!? I mean, if you grab a ubuntu livecd, it'll contain a kernel, like any livecd.. This kernel is stable and designed to run on almost any configuration.. Which means.. IT'll work !
[03:56] <Das-Herrkurm> btw, how do i uninstall applications/programs which i have installed from .run packages. The add/remove doesnt show it nor can i find it in synaptic
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: i have my preveous kernel..
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| so you could use that kernel, if you can't access your system in any other way
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> which i am boot with to change the grub.
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| oh.. greate :)
[03:56] <flankk> Hello
[03:56] <ic56> !justask
[03:56] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:56] <Rorviker> How can I disable apt-get to install from the install cd? I want it to only download from internet since I have removed my cd drive.
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| have you got a backup of the config file for your last working kernel?
[03:56] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: actually.. the resone to getting this latest kernel is because it contains my wifi drivers..
[03:56] <Exxcaliber> ;)
[03:57] <soundray> Das-Herrkurm: by installing from a .run file, you bypassed the apt system.
[03:57] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: yes..
[03:57] <soundray> Das-Herrkurm: if you're lucky, you can call that .run file again, and it'll give you an option to uninstall.
[03:57] <|lostbyte|> Exxcaliber: the whole builing stuff went smooth..
[03:57] <Das-Herrkurm> soundray , im willing to uninstall it through teh konsole, i just dont know how ;)
[03:57] <Das-Herrkurm> thx soundray
[03:57] <beta_m> sorry for repeating. here is my problem. I have a vfat (fat32) usb drive, which is mounted in rw mode (i can see that in mtab) but only sudo can make me write to that drive. The owner of the directory that it's mounted on shows up as my user, and i have read and write priviledges for it. What is wrong?
[03:57] <Exxcaliber> |lostbyte| strange..
[03:58] <Exxcaliber> It's out of my leauge.. but hey, don't compile that wifi stuff as a part of your kernel, compile it as a module :)
[03:58] <Exxcaliber> GLHF :)
[03:58] <nikosgr> hi
[03:59] <nikosgr> i ahve 3 temsinal session open in tabs
[03:59] <nikosgr> and when i tri with ctrl+2 to chnage irssi window
[03:59] <nikosgr> it changes terminal sessions isntead
[03:59] <nikosgr> what can i do?
[03:59] <soundray> beta_m: did you mount it manually?
[03:59] <beta_m> no
[04:00] <verdee> highvoltage, sorry for repeating, i'm a ppc user and i'm reading the wiki about the codecs... i discover i can't see mpeg, mov etc, that's right?
[04:00] <verdee> gh
[04:00] <verdee> no highvoltage, sorry
[04:00] <nikosgr> anyone knows?
[04:00] <|lostbyte|> Exposure: yes ! its as a module..

[04:00] <nikosgr> also when i minimizw windows it wont go to panel down bu the just dissapear
[04:01] <orbin> ic56: ah, now i get you..
[04:01] <nikosgr> anyone knows?
[04:01] <Das-Herrkurm> soundray, if it doesnt give me the option to uninstall how can i uninstall it through konsole?
[04:01] <ic56> orbin: good!
[04:01] <truz24> How do I get some of my old kernel entries off my menu.lst, I tried deleting but it seems that automagic is putting them back.  Do i have to remove the kernels?
[04:01] <nikosgr> please help
[04:01] <XxDeMoNxX> Hi all! I have a problem with my sound, i keep hearing some sort of Cracking.....
[04:01] <nikosgr> windows dissapear
[04:02] <XxDeMoNxX> Any Idea how I can fix this?
[04:02] <soundray> Das-Herrkurm: you have to find out which files are part of that program and remove them all with 'sudo rm file'
[04:02] <nikosgr> soundray: ?
[04:03] <in10city> is there anyone here who could help me mount a VFAT drive??
[04:03] <soundray> nikosgr: hold on
[04:03] <Das-Herrkurm> does ubuntu have like registry with all the entries from programs in it? i know where i installed my program. may i just delete those files?
[04:03] <XxDeMoNxX> Hi all! I have a problem with my sound, i keep hearing some sort of Cracking..... help, please? :s
[04:03] <Das-Herrkurm> with the rm
[04:03] <nikosgr> mount -t vfat /dev/device /media/mountpointdir
[04:03] <orbin> ic56: er, would a mount point of / be bad?   e.g. say i create a dir called "backup" on the filesystem.  would that be mounted as /backup?
[04:03] <Rorviker> How can I disable apt-get to install from the install cd? I want it to only download from internet since I have removed my cd drive.
[04:03] <Plouj___> hi
[04:03] <_jason> !apt_cd
[04:03] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason
[04:03] <beta_m> in10city:  you can do "man fstab" in console window, it will tell you how to mount it automagically
[04:04] <_jason> !aptcd
[04:04] <ubotu> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:", or in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[04:04] <Rorviker> thx
[04:04] <Plouj___> can someone help me figure out to configure wlan0 and wifi0? I have only one wireless card in the laptop, but both exist, and I'm getting a similar problem to this: http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2004-August/007556.html but I don't know how to not assign an ip to wifi0 while keeping it enabled.
[04:04] <soundray> beta_m: what options are shown for the drive when you type 'mount'?
[04:05] <beta_m> "/dev/sdb1 on /media/REMOVE type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[04:05] <beta_m> "
[04:05] <ic56> orbin: / is already taken.  / is where the root filesystem is mounted -- the one that contains excutables like ls and mount in /bin and config files like /etc/fstab
[04:05] <soundray> Das-Herrkurm: that should work.
[04:05] <Das-Herrkurm> ill try it, thanks soundray
[04:05] <highvoltage> verdee: np, i get that a lot ;)
[04:05] <ic56> orbin: so you should mkdir /backup
[04:05] <ic56>  mount /dev/hda1 /backup
[04:06] <ic56> orbin: so you should mkdir /backup ; mount /dev/hda1 backup
[04:06] <orbin> ic56: yes, that's why i asked if it was bad or not.  thanks. :)
[04:06] <ic56> orbin: (sudo both commands, of course)
[04:06] <orbin> yep
[04:07] <soundray> beta_m: what's your uid? (Find out from /etc/passwd)
[04:07] <beta_m> soundray:  1000
[04:08] <verdee> ok highvoltage :P
[04:08] <soundray> beta_m: what does 'touch /media/REMOVE/touchtest say?
[04:09] <soundray> beta_m: what does 'touch /media/REMOVE/touchtest' say?
[04:09] <Howitzer> Is it bad to only have 1.8GB left on your / partition?(/home is on a seperate partition)
[04:09] <beta_m> nothing at all
[04:09] <Howitzer> NOTE: i can't resize the / partition
[04:09] <beta_m> i don't need to sudo it do i?
[04:10] <soundray> beta_m: does /media/REMOVE/touchtest exist now?
[04:10] <soundray> beta_m: no
[04:10] <ic56> Howitzer: 1.8GB sounds like plenty of space to me.  Are you worried it's too big or too small?
[04:10] <beta_m> yes it does
[04:10] <bluelotus> Hey, I'm looking for a dock-app to manage wifi-connections...  kinda like wifi-radar and network manager combined...
[04:10] <Howitzer> too small :/
[04:10] <beta_m> it's empty file
[04:10] <in10city> there is nothing in media to connect to when i run that command to mount the drive
[04:10] <in10city> and I cant create folders in there
[04:10] <Plouj___> why does ubuntu setup wifi0 as a bridge interface of some sort?
[04:11] <beta_m> wtf, it's working now... i don't understand
[04:11] <beta_m> i couldn't move files to that drive a second ago, and it's moving them now
[04:11] <ic56> Howitzer: you want to install lots more stuff, then?
[04:11] <Howitzer> not exactly
[04:11] <Howitzer> but i might :/
[04:11] <soundray> beta_m: perhaps it took a while to mount?
[04:11] <beta_m> but this was a problem for days already
[04:12] <soundray> beta_m: did you plug the drive while you were logged in?
[04:12] <beta_m> it was plugged in during the boot up
[04:12] <ic56> Howitzer: try reading the man page for resize2fs.
[04:12] <soundray> beta_m: that explains it (I think)
[04:12] <Howitzer> okay
[04:13] <Howitzer> i'll keep that in mind when i run out of space..
[04:13] <Nadimar> yay! got my Broadcom wireless card working =)
[04:13] <beta_m> well, isn't there a way to make it work propperly even though i have it connected during the boot up?
[04:13] <orbin> ic56, soundray : thanks again.  all setup now :)
[04:13] <Howitzer> but it's just, i once installed Dapper and set everything up really nice how i like it, turns out 2GB was too small for a root partition so i had to start all over again since i used reiserfs -_-
[04:13] <soundray> beta_m: yes
[04:13] <Howitzer> now i'm a bit scared for it -_-
[04:14] <soundray> beta_m: you'd have to make an entry for that drive in /etc/fstab
[04:14] <LordFalcon> How can I upgrade to the latest dapper release with apt ?
[04:14] <beta_m> soundray:  hmm, but then sometimes it's not plugged in during the start up. won't that make an error?
[04:14] <baconbacon> !upgrade
[04:14] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[04:15] <soundray> beta_m: under "options" use the options that you saw on the "mount" command, plus the option 'noauto'
[04:15] <soundray> beta_m: with noauto, it won't try to mount it immediately on boot.
[04:15] <ic56> Howitzer resize2fs is for ext2 and ext3 filesystems.  It won't work on reiser.   I don't know if there's a resizing tool for reiser.  Keep in mind that resizing filesystems isn't a traditional unix operation so resizing tools tend to be hacks written later.
[04:16] <beta_m> but will it mount it when i'll log in, or will i have to do sudo mount?
[04:16] <macho> hi
[04:16] <LordFalcon> thnx
[04:17] <Das-Herrkurm> is it possible to delete whole folders with the sudo rm command?
[04:17] <Tomcat_> Das-Herrkurm: Yes. with -f
[04:17] <Das-Herrkurm> how should the cmd look like?
[04:18] <HymnToLife> isn't it -r ?
[04:18] <Das-Herrkurm> where should the flag be?
[04:18] <soundray> beta_m: you will be able to do mount /mountpoint as user (you can add that in System-Prefs-Session)
[04:18] <macho> bbbb
[04:18] <[D] ARKFENIX> does anybody knows about a video editor like windows movie maker but for linux
[04:18] <baconbacon> rm -r ./folder
[04:18] <ic56> Howitzer: aha.  There *is* a resize tool for reisser: read manpage resize_reiserfs.
[04:18] <Tomcat_> Das-Herrkurm: HymnToLife is right... it's -r
[04:18] <Das-Herrkurm> ill try it :>
[04:19] <HymnToLife> [D] ARKFENIX> kino or cinelerra (<= or whatever the hell it is spelled)
[04:19] <soundray> Tomcat_, Das-Herrkurm, HymnToLife, you will need rm -rf, unless the dir is empty, in which case rm -r is enough.
[04:19] <beta_m> soundray:  thanks a lot... q;-)
[04:20] <[D] ARKFENIX> where i can download cinelarra?
[04:20] <lucas> cinelarra is quite advanced
[04:20] <HymnToLife> [D] ARKFENIX> it is in the repos
[04:21] <Das-Herrkurm> thx a lot for your help soundray , HymnToLife and Tomcat_
[04:21] <Chris_Tucker> is there a way to mount an ftp share in a folder just like sshfs would?
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> root@sherneyko:/home/shpr# apt-get install cinelerra
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> Creando rbol de dependencias... Hecho
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete cinelerra
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> root@sherneyko:/home/shpr#
[04:22] <[D] ARKFENIX> isn't in the repositories
[04:22] <Chris_Tucker> !paste
[04:22] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:22] <soundray> Chris_Tucker: I think there is... Look at package lufs-utils
[04:22] <sword-> question
[04:22] <sword-> http://www.zimmertech.com/images/kubuntu_full.jpg
[04:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> ahh ok sorry
[04:23] <hob> Hi, is it possible to make my desktop = my home directory?
[04:23] <sword-> does anyone know what program that is that is showing the cpu stats?
[04:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> gkrellm
[04:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> gdesklets
[04:23] <[D] ARKFENIX> superkaramba
[04:23] <soundray> sword-: top
[04:23] <sword-> but that is a different version of top
[04:23] <|lostbyte|> how to make an initrd ?
[04:23] <sword-> you see what im talking about? to the right?
[04:23] <ic56> hob: it is but you won't like the effect.
[04:24] <hob> ic56, why not? Does it show the hidden dirs?
[04:24] <bence_> hi
[04:25] <soundray> sword-: sorry, missed the first part of your question... look at [D] ARKFENIX's suggestions.
[04:25] <doms> Depends: zope-cmfplone how to install that dependencies
[04:25] <ic56> hob: I think so.  Try creating a file that begins with a dot in your desktop and see if it's visible or hidden.
[04:26] <sword-> soundray, no posted a link
[04:26] <sword-> and there is a program here
[04:26] <sword-> http://www.zimmertech.com/images/kubuntu_full.jpg
[04:27] <sword-> that is giving system stats including temperature
[04:27] <sword-> i was wondering what it was
[04:27] <Rorviker> When I do apt-get install , where will it put programs ?
[04:27] <soundray> sword-: yes, I saw that meanwhile.
[04:27] <ic56> hob: apparently hidden files are *not* displayed on the desktop.  Interesting.
[04:27] <soundray> sword-: it could be any one of those that [D] ARKFENIX has listed.
[04:27] <elkbuntu> hob, however, you will be dramatically limited by what can be in your home root
[04:27] <sword-> ah
[04:28] <macho> i am using ubuntu 64 bit . i am the begineer . i need some guide to configure from basic to active my adsl modem over ethernet.
[04:28] <soundray> sword-: probably superkaramba since it's KDE
[04:29] <lucas> !pppoe
[04:29] <ubotu> somebody said pppoe was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[04:29] <Tomcat_> macho: If it's connected to one of the ethernet interfaces, it should be as easy as "sudo pppoeconfig"
[04:29] <hob> elkbuntu, in what way?
[04:29] <[D] ARKFENIX> sword : if you want a lightweight desklet -> gkrellm
[04:29] <lucas> macho, look at that link
[04:29] <elkbuntu> hob, does your desktop have a scrollbar?
[04:29] <[D] ARKFENIX> sword : if you want a beauty desklet -> superkaramba or gdesklets
[04:29] <[D] ARKFENIX> sword : if you want a normal desklet -> adeslets
[04:29] <sword-> i need something specifically that tells me the temperature of my cpu
[04:29] <sword-> etc
[04:29] <[D] ARKFENIX> gdesklets
[04:30] <hob> elkbuntu, no...is this a bunch of rhetorics to try and put me off? :)
[04:30] <macho> it says cant find the directory
[04:30] <[D] ARKFENIX> shows you all
[04:30] <soundray> sword-: mbmon, or look at the files under /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/
[04:30] <void^> acpi -V, or lm_sensors for annoying mainboards
[04:30] <elkbuntu> well... you asked how you would be limited, i responded in a way to make you figure it for youself ;)
[04:30] <ic56> hob: alright, you can be our guinea pig.  To change your homedir, sudo vipw and edit the 2nd-last field in the line for your username.  Change it from /home/hob to /home/hob/Desktop
[04:31] <sword-> sword@ubuntu:/proc/acpi/thermal_zone$ acpi -V
[04:31] <sword-> No support for device type: thermal
[04:31] <ic56> hob: then, move all the hidden files from /home/hob to /home/hob/Desktop
[04:31] <bence_> hello
[04:31] <lucas> macho, are you running "sudo pppoeconf"?
[04:31] <ic56> hob: finally, log in on a console window to make sure you still *can* login.  If all is ok, try logging out of the GUI and back in again.  Good luck!
[04:32] <bence_> two
[04:32] <soundray> lucas, are you sure that macho needs pppoe and not pppoa?
[04:32] <macho> i need a flash plugin for my 64 bit firfox browser. i downloaded it from macromedia. but it dont support. can u hlp me get the compactible plugin and guide to install that. i am currently using k package to manage downloaded application. also guide me to get custom application for 64 linux.
[04:33] <ic56> hob: BTW, vipw defaults to invoking vi.  if your favourite editor is something else, use VISUAL=youreditor sudo vipw
[04:33] <lucas> soundray, well, he said "adsl modem over ethernet."
[04:33] <mumbles> any people here who have gotten a dlink airepluss DWL-G650+ working ?
[04:33] <soundray> macho: you can't use Macromedia Flash with amd64.
[04:33] <macho> it displays command not found
[04:34] <soundray> macho: you can reinstall ubuntu i386, then it'll work
[04:34] <hob> ic56, is that moving my home dir to my desktop dir? I want to do it the other way round, and have my desktop viewing my home dir...i thought there was an option to do that somewhere, i just can't find it
[04:34] <elkbuntu> soundray, what about openGL?
[04:34] <soundray> elkbuntu: what about it?
[04:34] <macho> then is there any third party . or any browser that support
[04:34] <AnAnt> can I upgrade from Breezy to Drapper using the Install icon in Drapper's LiveCD ?
[04:34] <Tomcat_> hob: Just link ~/Desktop to ~?
[04:34] <ic56> hob: ah. Yes the instructions I gave you take you in the opposite direction.
[04:34] <macho> what i386 means
[04:34] <soundray> macho: swf-player, but it's experimental
[04:35] <macho> i586 means
[04:35] <macho> waher to get swf player
[04:35] <hob> Tomcat, then I've got a useless folder in my home dir...
[04:35] <Tomcat_> macho: i386 is the CPU standard based on the intel 386... most CPUs can use that.
[04:35] <soundray> macho: i386 is the 32-bit architecture with which Athlon 64 CPUs are compatible.
[04:35] <macho> does it support 64 bit
[04:35] <Tomcat_> hob: Well, it's only a workaround. No other ideas, sorry. :)
[04:35] <soundray> macho: you are asking too many questions at once.
[04:36] <Tomcat_> macho: amd64 CPUs can do i386, yes.
[04:36] <hob> Tomcat, no probs. That was my first thought too
[04:36] <elkbuntu> err.. what did i say before... opengl.. my mistake... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f4b5a0e592cf89fac0bb7f5388c8e1733413af21
[04:36] <soundray> macho: it is not clear who you are asking.
[04:36] <macho> sorry i am trying to reply
[04:36] <elkbuntu> macho, what is your native language?
[04:36] <soundray> macho: use the nicknames.
[04:36] <AnAnt> can I upgrade from Breezy to Dapper using the Install icon in Dapper's LiveCD ?
[04:36] <macho> tamil
[04:37] <Tomcat_> AnAnt: I doubt it. But I don't know for sure.
[04:37] <macho> any one knows kindly guide me
[04:37] <hob> ic56, hmm, can't figure this one out. Not worries, it was only a whim. Thanks anyway
[04:37] <ic56> What's the name of the program that displays the GNOME desktop?
[04:37] <AnAnt> ic56: gnome-session ?
[04:38] <macho> is that 64 bit architecture is stable or unstable
[04:38] <curley_sue> HELP NEEDED. I made the stupedest mistake: "sudo rm -R /media/mountpoint". any ideas how to recover the deleted files?
[04:38] <soundray> macho: it is exceedingly stable
[04:39] <Dark-Night> lol My CD drive wont eject even when i righ tclick eject, it says its got an invalid argument
[04:39] <white_lightning> I'm running 64-bit right now
[04:39] <elkbuntu> Dark-Night, did you try from command line?
[04:39] <soundray> curley_sue: first, unplug the drive if it is pluggable.
[04:39] <Dark-Night> what should it type in?
[04:39] <macho> soundtray i had downloaded upto 1gb of sofware . if i migrate all will be waste
[04:40] <elkbuntu> try umount /media/cdrom0
[04:40] <sbassett516> curley_sue: what was the filesystem on the media?
[04:40] <Dark-Night> ok thanks :D
[04:40] <macho> sdtray do can u guide me
[04:40] <elkbuntu> it worked?
[04:40] <Godis> blue lotus , how do i open rar files??
[04:40] <curley_sue> sbassett516,  soundray, it is a FAT32 partition on my HD(forgot to mention) already unmounted
[04:40] <[D] ARKFENIX> must I put an extra line in the repositories for installing cinelerra?
[04:41] <sbassett516> Dark-Kight: also sudo eject /media/cdrom0
[04:41] <macho> sdtray i need lot of guidelines
[04:41] <Dark-Night> umount: /media/cdrom1 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[04:41] <Dark-Night>  <-- thast what it says
[04:41] <elkbuntu> try what sbassett516 said then
[04:41] <ic56> AnAnt: thanks!  Looks like gnome-session starts nautilus to display the desktop.
[04:41] <soundray> curley_sue: you may be able to undelete files from DOS/Windows.
[04:41] <macho> are u ther
[04:41] <sbassett516> Dark-Night: Is this cdrom0 or cdrom1
[04:41] <sbassett516> ?
[04:42] <ic56> hob: try man nautilus and, if you can figure out the right options, modify /usr/share/gnome/default.session
[04:42] <[D] ARKFENIX> must I put an extra line in the repositories for installing cinelerra?
[04:42] <orbin> [D] ARKFENIX: there's deb files: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html
[04:42] <ocult> hello
[04:42] <ocult> my sound card isnt installed in system
[04:42] <Dark-Night> cdrom0, it says that its not mounted
[04:42] <ocult> in system preferences  Audio
[04:42] <macho> sda
[04:42] <elkbuntu> [D] ARKFENIX, please dont spam us with the same question over and over
[04:42] <[D] ARKFENIX> thanks
[04:42] <ocult> is in blank
[04:42] <ocult> how i solve this problem ?
[04:42] <macho> a
[04:42] <ocult> please somebody ????????
[04:42] <ocult> is one realtek ac` 97
[04:42] <macho> are u there
[04:42] <curley_sue> soundray, how is that done (I am using a dual-boot with XP) haven't rebooted since the deletion (of about 15G)
[04:42] <ocult> ompaul, help me please.
[04:43] <sbassett516> Drak-Knight: your other post says cdrom1?
[04:43] <soundray> curley_sue: was XP on the partition you deleted?
[04:43] <sbassett516> typo?
[04:43] <doms> zope2.8:
[04:43] <doms>  Depends: python2.3-xml  but it is not installable
[04:43] <macho> as my root account is refusing to login . it strucks in loading
[04:43] <soundray> !tell ocult about sound
[04:43] <macho> how to repair it
[04:43] <Dark-Night> oh sorry i was seeing if it was cdrom1 or cdrom0
[04:43] <ocult> soundray, it dont solv
[04:43] <ocult> i was reading
[04:43] <ocult> =/
[04:43] <elkbuntu> ocult, you cant depend on people to be around, try being patient and waiting for others to get to your question
[04:43] <Dark-Night> must have copyed the wrong one
[04:44] <macho> without loosing downloaded
[04:44] <Tomcat_> doms: Does sudo apt-get upgrade report any not upgradable packages?
[04:44] <ocult> elkbuntu, thanks, when u have time please help me
[04:44] <ocult> ^^
[04:44] <ocult> arigatou
[04:44] <elkbuntu> s/people/certain people/
[04:44] <Godis> Someone who knows how to open RAR-files?
[04:44] <elkbuntu> ocult, i have no idea about soundcards
[04:44] <Tomcat_> Godis: Install some type on unrar or rar. :)
[04:44] <sbassett516> Dark-Knight: no problem. what does "mount" show from the terminal
[04:44] <elkbuntu> ocult, but others here will, and when they finish with people who asked before you, they will move on to you
[04:44] <curley_sue> soundray, no, XP is on a third partition (NTFS), the one deleted using rm is a FAT32 (used for archives) and I have a linux partition which is ext3 I belive (Dapper)
[04:44] <mythica> could someone tell me how to unpack a .tz file ?
[04:44] <Tomcat_> Godis: Like unrar-nonfree
[04:44] <doms> how to use report
[04:45] <orbin> mythica: use nautilus, or tar zxf <file>
[04:45] <elkbuntu> mythica, tar xvvzf filename.tz
[04:45] <Dark-Night> sbassett516 : alot of things
[04:45] <Tomcat_> doms: "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:45] <Godis> Where do I find it?
[04:45] <mythica> thanks guys
[04:45] <Tomcat_> Godis: unrar-nonfree is in multiverse
[04:46] <Tomcat_> !multiverse
[04:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:46] <maerk> hello, is this the place to ask for help with installing ubuntu?
[04:46] <Tomcat_> maerk: Absolutely.
[04:46] <soundray> curley_sue: deleting in fat filesystems works by removing the first two bytes from the filename in the fat (file allocation table) entry. So there is a chance to recover. I don't know about any linux utilities that do this though.
[04:46] <maerk> excellent!
[04:46] <orbin> ic56: i have a lost+found folder in the new partition.  is this necessary to keep?
[04:47] <ic56> orbin: Yes, it's *very* important.
[04:47] <doms> Package python2.3-xml is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:47] <curley_sue> soundray, is there a way ,after deleting using linux, to recover using XP?
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> it is? i always found it getting remade if needed.
[04:47] <Godis> I dont understand, I am not to smart about ubuntu...
[04:47] <orbin> ic56: lucky i asked then :)
[04:47] <|lostbyte|> how to make an initrd under ubuntu ?
[04:48] <ic56> orbin: lost+found is where fsck (the filesystem checker, which is run when you boot, if you didn't shutdown cleanly) will place any files it discovers which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[04:48] <Chris_Tucker> whats the equivilant of mkpasswd?
[04:48] <maerk> i have two hard drives, and I'd like to install ubuntu on one of them without erasing any of the original data...
[04:48] <Dark-Night> sbassett516:ithink i need to reg my username before i can PM thast what the Ubuntu Servers are saying
[04:48] <soundray> curley_sue: earlier versions of Windows had an undelete utility. I don't know about XP. You can probably mount your XP partition and search for a file with undel in the name.
[04:48] <Yokalosh> how can i uninstall kde and all the dependencies it installed with it?
[04:48] <sbassett516> curley_sue: there is a prog called autopsy. This seems to work with vfat
[04:49] <ic56> orbin: if there's no lost+found directory, fsck can't re-attach the files it is able to glean from a corrupt filesystem.
[04:49] <_jason> Yokalosh: how did you install it?
[04:49] <Yokalosh> apt-get install kde
[04:49] <rinke> Yokalosh: sudo apt-get remove kde
[04:49] <Yokalosh> but that just removes kde and not all the programs it also downloaded
[04:49] <sbassett516> Dark-Knight: understood. Any rogue processes showing up under ps -A that might be locking the tray? Are you using gnome or kde?
[04:50] <_jason> Yokalosh: in the future you should try to use aptitude, it will remember dependencies that get installed with a package and act appropriately when you remove a package.  In your case you will have to eitehr use deborphan or remove a lib that kde things depend on, for example: libqt3-mt
[04:50] <Dark-Night> i'm useing Gnome I was listning to music but it stoped so i loaded up another music player and then it played again ... hmm 2 sec
[04:50] <mkoby> Hi all, I'm running Breezy through a KVM switch, and the only thing that the resolution applet shows is 640x800, how do I change this?  It used to let me use 1024x768 before I got a KVM.
[04:51] <curley_sue> soundray, sbassett516, is it for linux or XP, is it free, how is it used, is it safe to reboot without risking loosing the deleted file? (sorry for the loads of Qs)
[04:51] <Yokalosh> thnx _jason
[04:51] <maerk> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a partition of my hard drive, how can i do this without erasing any of the data it alread contains?
[04:51] <sbassett516> curley_sue: autopsy is for linux, free of course.
[04:51] <mkoby> maerk: In the installer, if you go to the size on any partition, it will usually let you change it non-destructively.
[04:51] <tacticalcron> Howdy all..
[04:52] <yereth> guys.. I just removed my /boot partition and added /boot on my main partition with all the original contents, so nothing changed in that way. Should I do anything but "update-grub"?
[04:52] <ic56> orbin: every filesystem has *one* lost+found directory.  If /home doesn't have such a directory, it's either not a separate filesystem, or someone deleted it and will later regret it :-)