[16:18] <OerHeks> nopel0rd, from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware >> in order to run the configure and autogen.sh files that come with many programs: sudo apt-get install automake
[16:20] <helloworld69> When I log into phpmyadmin I get this error: The phpMyAdmin configuration storage is not completely configured, some extended features have been deactivated
[16:20] <TJ-> Skyrider: Pro Tip: if you want to control the Wifi interface completely you can use the WPA supplication's command-line, with "sudo wpa_cli -i <DEV>" ... and then at its command-line type "help" for a list of commands
[16:22] <home> please anyone help me to install glibc in ubuntu 15.10
[16:23] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: Okya, I'll follow the instructions on it. Thanks.
[16:23] <OerHeks> home, what makes you think you have no glibc? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc
[16:23] <Skyrider> strange..
[16:24] <makk> home, glibc should be installed allready, glibc is kind of a standart based library that is aleway istalled if iam not minformed
[16:24] <Skyrider> I have the option to make a 5ghz hotspot, yet I can't.
[16:24] <TJ-> Skyrider: what country are you in?
[16:24] <Skyrider> nl
[16:24] <Skyrider> This is on my mobile btw.
[16:25] <Skyrider> aha
[16:25] <Skyrider> now it works
[16:25] <Skyrider> nvm, lol
[16:25] <makk> helloworld69, you should maybe ask in the ##php channel about phpmyadmin
[16:25] <BlackFate> helloworld69, if you google that error, you will find tons of posts
[16:25] <TJ-> Skyrider: 802.11a has to detect local RADAR and other sources so as not to interfere with them; so sometimes the device will refuse to operate in some channels in the band
[16:26] <home> then please help me to resolve this error when I am trying to install MS ODBC DRIVER
[16:26] <Skyrider> TJ- can you suggest a package for me to remote control (the main desktop) on ubuntu?
[16:26] <home> [Sat Jan 2 17:08:50 IST 2016] The glibc library was not found installed in the RPM database.
[16:26] <Skyrider> I prefer not to keep walking to my pi.
[16:26] <OerHeks> home, this is ubuntu support, we don't use rpm
[16:27] <TJ-> Skyrider: well, my preference is always using the command-line, so I'd recommend using SSH (openssh-server on the 'server' side)
[16:27] <helloworld69> I allready used all tons of options to solve it but none helps
[16:27] <OerHeks> home find support in  #fedora or #opensuse or #redhat?
[16:27] <helloworld69> I tryid to get into php room but I need to be invited
[16:28] <OerHeks> you might need to register first, helloworld69
[16:28] <OerHeks> !register
[16:28] <olpirn> Hello. I'm having an Ubuntu issue and have found this channel. Can somebody please help?
[16:28] <OerHeks> some channels are not open like ubuntu, to stop spambots and trolls.
[16:29] <makk> helloworld69, wich php channel you joined i had no problems zo join ##php
[16:29] <OerHeks> olpirn, just ask, wait and see
[16:29] <home> then please help me to install MS ODBC DRIVER in ubuntu 15.10
[16:29] <Skyrider> TJ- I prefer ssh as well
[16:29] <Skyrider> But these KDE manager is GUI
[16:29] <Skyrider> *this
[16:29] <OerHeks> home, with RPM ?
[16:29] <TJ-> helloworld69: it's ##php  channel not #php
[16:30] <olpirn> Thanks, OerHeks.
[16:30] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: Package gcj is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[16:30] <TJ-> Skyrider: you don't need the GUI to control those though. there's 'nmcli'
[16:30] <helloworld69> thanks
[16:30] <Skyrider> Ya, no idea how to use that
[16:30] <home> what ever method you think it is possible
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> !find odbc
[16:30] <Skyrider> Then again
[16:31] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: What do I do now? Should I install Java or something?
[16:31] <TJ-> home: what does "cat /etc/issue" report ?
[16:31] <Skyrider> with nmcli -g I can see the wifi connection I set up
[16:31] <Skyrider> No idea how to disable that though..
[16:32] <TJ-> Skyrider: "nmcli con [up|down] id <connection-name> "
[16:32] <home> Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[16:32] <Skyrider> How do I make it connect again hidden with the wifi?
[16:32] <TJ-> Skyrider: if the connection name has spaces in it, then surround the <connection-name> with " .. " marks
[16:33] <TJ-> Skyrider: e.g "nmcli con down id wireless.lan.iam.tj && nmcli con up id wireless.lan.iam.tj"
[16:33] <TJ-> home: OK, so glibc is already installed
[16:33] <OerHeks> nopel0rd, no idea, gcj-4.9 and gcj5 are available in softwarecenter
[16:33] <OerHeks> !find gcj
[16:34] <Skyrider> thats...
[16:34] <Skyrider> confusing, lol
[16:34] <home> okay how should I install the MS ODBC driver
[16:35] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: There's so many gcj's. Which one should I choose to install?
[16:35] <k1l> home: does it come with a readme or install?
[16:35] <home> yeah
[16:35] <TJ-> home: what do you mean by "MS" ?
[16:36] <TJ-> home: Do you mean a Microsoft Windows exectuable?
[16:36] <k1l> home: so read it, then install the depencies then follow the steps
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> ms = main stream   (joke)
[16:36] <home> no no
[16:36] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: or MonkeySilly :p
[16:38] <TJ-> !info odbc-mdbtools | home
[16:39] <home> thank you very much
[16:39] <home> all
[16:40] <olpirn> I tried shutting down my system and it got stuck (black screen, no response, but computer still on). I forced it to shut down through the hardware. I've switched it on again, but it doesn't behave normally. Every few seconds it gets stuck for a few seconds, the mouse cursor keeps disappearing and reappearing, windows keep changing their appearance
[16:40] <olpirn> (as if fluctuating between two themes). There are some applications I can't start (like the system monitor and some of the system settings), and the system does not react to my keyboard shortcuts (such as ctrl-alt-T to open a terminal). I have no idea what's going on, but I think Unity is not setting itself up properly: ps shows /usr/lib/unity-sett
[16:40] <olpirn> ings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon, each time with a new pid, and there are hundreds of instances of usd-locate-pointer. It seems to me that Unity keeps running some setup, never completing it and always rerunning it again and again. Does this make sense? And does anybody here know what might be causing this and how to solve it?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> olpirn  so Unity is unstable
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> olpirn  which ubuntu version and where/how did you get it
[16:43] <olpirn> I'm using 15.10.
[16:43] <k1l> olpirn: try to rename the .config folder to .configbackup. then relogin. see if that solves it
[16:43] <olpirn> Have been using it since it came out.
[16:45] <olpirn> Thanks for the idea, k1l - will try it and be back in a few minutes.
[16:48] <hasiduha> does anyone have problems with nvidia drivers and xbacklight? when i run intel gpu, xbacklight works fine, but when i switch to nvidia gpu, i cant change / retrieve backlight using xbacklight..
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[16:53] <CarolzinhaSG> Hi, someone recomwnd me the best ubuntu for beginners?
[16:53] <Skyrider> rsad, spammers.
[16:53] <Skyrider> **sad
[16:54] <k1l> CarolzinhaSG: start with original ubuntu.
[16:54] <CarolzinhaSG> Thanks
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> CarolzinhaSG  get used to it, like you got used to windows or mac: by using it
[16:54] <makk> CarolzinhaSG, xubuntu is good it at looks a bit like windows
[16:54] <Skyrider> TJ- >?
[16:55] <olpirn> Thanks again, k1l, I'm back.
[16:55] <Skyrider> wlx00259c96f84c  Interface doesn't support scanning : Device or resource busy
[16:55] <Skyrider> Its not connected though.
[16:55] <CarolzinhaSG> I'm downloading the original ubunto, to test.
[16:55] <CarolzinhaSG> Ubuntu*
[16:56] <TJ-> Skyrider: might be worth re-inserting it for now, in case all the playing about has confused something
[16:56] <Skyrider> TJ- I removed the "hotspot"
[16:56] <Skyrider> I can scan now
[16:56] <Skyrider> What am I looking for? list is quite big
[16:56] <Skyrider> Ah, Freq.
[16:57] <TJ-> Skyrider: Yes, check if you can get it to use the 802.11a 5GHz band, and do a scan that sees an 802.11a access point
[16:57] <Skyrider> Frequency:5.58 GHz
[16:57] <Skyrider> Found one
[16:57] <olpirn> By removing my .config directory I managed to cause the problem to disappear immediately: the ongoing setup process ceased, and things started working normally (except I didn't have everything set up properly, but that's not that big a deal). However, the minute I logged out and logged back in, the same problem returned (in addition to me not havin
[16:57] <olpirn> g any of my old settings).
[16:57] <Skyrider> Oke, so it can scan for a 5ghz freq.
[16:57] <k1l> olpirn: yes, the old settings are stored in .configbackup now. but to rule out what is causing that issue we needed a clean setup.
[16:58] <k1l> olpirn: but i still dont know what you mean with "its still doing a setup process"
[16:59] <Skyrider> TJ-: Running sudo iwlist frequency shows me a list of channels.
[16:59] <Skyrider> both 2.4 and 5.2+
[16:59] <olpirn> When running ps I see among the processes: /usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon. When I run ps again and again, I keep seeing it, always with a different PID. I think something causes it to run again and again.
[16:59] <TJ-> Skyrider: YAY!
[16:59] <Skyrider> So why cant it use 5ghz through the kde network manager.
[16:59] <TJ-> Skyrider: so, you've narrowed it down to a problem when trying to operate infrastructure mode in the 802.11a band
[17:00] <Skyrider> So it appears.
[17:00] <olpirn> When I remove .config this stops: from that moment on I see it with the same PID all the time, and my system behaves normally.
[17:00] <makk> olpirn, is journalctl -f reporting somethinkg over and over again?
[17:00] <TJ-> Skyrider: You can, if you configure a regular wireless client connection to an xisting 802.11a AP
[17:00] <nopel0rd> TJ: There's so many gcj's. Which one should I choose to install?
[17:00] <k1l> olpirn: are you sure your system is in a good state? hardisk, ram, etc?
[17:00] <TJ-> Skyrider: your issue is the 802.11a + infrastructure mode
[17:01] <Skyrider> Im lost.
[17:01] <makk> Skyrider, the best solution might be to get a nother wirlestick :-)
[17:01] <Skyrider> I get the second line though.
[17:01] <Skyrider> another?
[17:01] <Skyrider> why
[17:01] <olpirn> k1l: lemme logout and login again so I can tell you.
[17:01] <Skyrider> I have another.. but..
[17:01] <Skyrider> not sure if that supports 5
[17:02] <olpirn> Oh wait, before I go: something else that has happened in this last login is that I don't have the top bar anymore!
[17:03] <makk> Skyrider, because it looks like that the hardware you are using dies not support the mode you trying to run in with the supported driver for ubuntu. But maybe a nother wirlessstick has less problems
[17:03] <TJ-> Skyrider: the driver can only do infrastructure mode if the firmware binary blob (no source code available for it) supports it. It looks like it doesn't. That is understandable due to the stiff legal requirments for preventing interference in 802.11a
[17:03] <k1l> olpirn: check the dmesg/syslog if that system is healthy at all
[17:04] <olpirn> k1l: How do I check that? Where do I find it?
[17:04] <k1l> "dmesg" is the command and syslog is in /var/log
[17:05] <Skyrider> Would you guys mind sharing the cmds to see the new USB network adapter I plugged in?
[17:05] <olpirn> I've tried dmesg. Got a long list of segfault's and a few other things. Anything in particular I should look for?
[17:06] <k1l> olpirn: "a long list of segfaults" that doesnt sound like a good shape.
[17:07] <Skyrider> makk Referring to the pi hardware or the stick itself.
[17:08] <olpirn> They're caused by unity-settings-[sum number].
[17:08] <k1l> olpirn: please pastebin those logs
[17:08] <Skyrider> no one?
[17:08] <k1l> Skyrider: "lsusb" will list all usb ports
[17:09] <makk> Skyrider, sorry i'am lost in the conversation. It's just what i would do after such a long fixing period like u did, to try another wlan device.
[17:09] <Skyrider> ty
[17:09] <Skyrider> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter
[17:09] <Skyrider> That should be my second.
[17:09] <Skyrider> 802.11n (2.4GHz)
[17:09] <Skyrider> no dual.
[17:10] <makk> Try to set it up in the way you would like to use it and look if it is working.
[17:10] <makk> If you need dual than thats maybe not the best one^^
[17:10] <TJ-> Skyrider: which uses the very same driver, and firmware, so you'll be no better off
[17:10] <Skyrider> need? not exactly.. want? ya.
[17:11] <TJ-> Skyrider: however, if that device will work with 802.11a + infrastructure mode, then you know the WUSB600N has a problem
[17:11] <Skyrider> TJ-: I'm lost.
[17:11] <Skyrider> My dual works fine with 2.4
[17:11] <Skyrider> Just 5ghz refuses to work
[17:11] <olpirn> OK, k1l.
[17:11] <olpirn> http://pastebin.com/nKiCQv3T
[17:12] <k1l> olpirn: did you change things on libc?
[17:13] <olpirn> k1l: if I changed things on libc would I know it?
[17:13] <k1l> well, you should know when you replace system programs
[17:13] <olpirn> So I don't think I have.
[17:13] <Skyrider> So ya.. I'm quite lost.
[17:14] <makk> Skyrider, if the usecase you need this is ok with 2.4GHz than you ok, but if not you might have to look for another device.
[17:14] <TJ-> Skyrider: right, as I said earlier, 802.11a requires DFS (RADAR detection) functionality. Apparently that device doesn't support it though it claims to
[17:14] <k1l> olpirn: any themes or fonts or curser themes?
[17:15] <olpirn> No.
[17:15] <makk> Skyrider, i guess there are devices out there who can handle what you need, you just have to look them up in the internet.
[17:15] <olpirn> I don't think I've done anything unusual.
[17:15] <TJ-> Skyrider: to do DFS wpa_supplicant needs to be using the "nl80211" driver, not the "wext" driver. So, check which it is using
[17:15] <PIYUSH> HI
[17:15] <olpirn> Was just "minding my own business".
[17:16] <ioria> olpirn, have you made a back-up  of ~/.config ?  if yes, try to back-up  also ~/.compiz
[17:16] <olpirn> ioria, you mean backing it up and removing the original .compiz?
[17:17] <k1l> olpirn: yes, just rename that folder.
[17:17] <ioria> olpirn, no, just rename it
[17:17] <k1l> olpirn: after that relogin.
[17:17] <ioria> olpirn, and try the Guest Account too
[17:17] <k1l> olpirn: if that doesnt help look in /var/crash what the crash reports in there talk about
[17:18] <olpirn> OK, thanks. Will be off for a few minutes trying it.
[17:20] <ioria> olpirn, and be sure your hw supports unity        run    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[17:20] <S_J> Are all the typefaces in Pinta free to use commerically?
[17:24] <TheEagerPadawan> hi, what do you guys recommend to use to get a connection with a serial port
[17:24] <ioria> !info minicom
[17:24] <TheEagerPadawan> irc does it again ;)
[17:25] <TheEagerPadawan> +1 penguin for ioria
[17:32] <Lurchy> morning everyone
[17:32] <Lurchy> cold here in california
[17:33] <Lurchy> can i move my ubuntu install over to a new ssd drive i got?
[17:33] <Lurchy> take a snapshot of this IDE drive that has my ubuntu installation on it...then copy it onto this SSD drive
[17:34] <makk> Lurchy, maybe dd can do somethink like it
[17:34] <Lurchy> what issues would I face?  would it work as easy as I have moved windows images in the past?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> Lurchy  clonezilla is popular
[17:34] <Lurchy> kk
[17:34] <k1l> Lurchy: i dd'ed my install from a hdd to a ssd. works.
[17:35] <k1l> just make sure your partitions are aligned
[17:35] <Lurchy> cool
[17:35] <Lurchy> you have any issues?
[17:35] <Lurchy> ok...can you elaborate?
[17:35] <makk> k1l, does the hd and the ssd has to be at the same size?
[17:36] <daftykins> Lurchy: i'd use clonezilla instead
[17:36] <Lurchy> my IDE is 500GB the SSD is only 64GB...and I want to make the 500GB one of two mirrored drives on a RAID
[17:36] <k1l> makk: well, you can resize and move them afterwards. but best is if the ssd is not too small.
[17:36] <k1l> Lurchy: well, that sounds like more than "just putting the old install onto a ssd"
[17:37] <daftykins> Lurchy: makes more sense to clean install to the SSD then, and remake the mechanical disk as /home
[17:37] <Lurchy> hmmm
[17:37] <Lurchy> ok...
[17:37] <BluesKaj> if the target partition is smaller then the source partition dd copy will fail
[17:37] <k1l> i i think a raid ist just not right in that setup
[17:37] <BluesKaj> than
[17:37] <k1l> *and i
[17:37] <daftykins> RAID is only right if Lurchy means there will be 2 x 500GB mechanicals to either stripe or mirror
[17:38] <Lurchy> well...I want to make the ssd the boot and OS drive...and the dual 500GB the archives....
[17:38] <daftykins> stripe (mode 0) would be a mistake there
[17:38] <k1l> and even then its not a backup which most people confuse raid and backup
[17:38] <olpirn> I'm back, and my problem is solved. Thanks k1l and ioria - I wouldn't have been able to do it without you (at least not that fast).
[17:38] <Lurchy> dual 500GB will mirror
[17:39] <ioria> olpirn, good job, mate !
[17:39] <Lurchy> well crap
[17:39] <makk> olpirn, nice! What was the fix to the problem?
[17:39] <daftykins> Lurchy: so make a package list of what's installed now, save it - clean install to the new SSD, import the package list and install those, then set up the RAID storage and move /home
[17:39] <Lurchy> I guess I need to reinstall onto the 64GB SSD
[17:39] <daftykins> not reinstall, *install*
[17:39] <alepando> hello Ubuntu Word... i'm testing Mate with VirtualBox in my debian
[17:40] <Lurchy> lol...yes
[17:40] <Lurchy> dafty...how does one make a package list?   pen and paper?  or is there a util that I use?
[17:41] <Lurchy> I use belarc in windows......
[17:41] <daftykins> Lurchy: dpkg --get-selections > file
[17:41] <daftykins> i think ^
[17:43] <Lurchy> kk...sounds like a plan...perhaps it can help if i reinstall apache and php it will help me figure out zoneminder also
[17:43] <olpirn> In case someone is interested: the problem was not .config or .compiz - I looked at the dmesg logs more closely and saw that not only unity-settings was sefaulting, but also the keyboard indicator. I then remembered I added a new keyboard layout recently (apparently after the last reboot). I restored the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml (whi
[17:43] <olpirn> ch, among other things, maintains a list of keyboard layouts) to a previous state, and that solved the problem. I guess something was wrong in the new version of the file (though I still don't know what it was, it all seemed perfect to me), which caused indicator-keyboard to crash (why crash? why couldn't it be a nice error message?), which caused
[17:43] <olpirn> the whole unity-settings-daemon to crash (why crash? why couldn't it be a nice error message and running without the keyboard indicator), and I guess something kept causing it restarting again and again, causing the whole system to falter.
[17:44] <olpirn> Everything's back to normal now, and I'll try and see how I can add this new layout _without_ crashing the system.
[17:44] <TJ-> Skyrider: You can check on which frequencies (and DFS) are supported with "sudo  wpa_cli get_capability freq"
[17:44] <olpirn> Thanks again!
[17:45] <Lurchy> thx for info guys....
[17:45] <TJ-> Skyrider: Try configuring your AP mode to use a channel from the Mode[A] channels that does *NOT* require DFS
[17:45] <makk> olpirn, sounds strange :-)
[17:46] <TJ-> Lurchy: you can use "debfoster" to create a list that will preserve the install dependencies
[17:46] <Lurchy> ok tj
[17:46] <keli> wow
[17:47] <keli> im new here
[17:47] <makk> Clonezilla will not work for Lurchy?
[17:47] <daftykins> makk: no
[17:47] <Lurchy> makk.....appparently not
[17:47] <daftykins> keli: support questions only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:47] <Lurchy> since target ssd drive is smaller than source IDE drive
[17:48] <makk> Lurchy, ah ok like i dought
[17:48] <Lurchy> if I understand correctly
[17:48] <olpirn> makk, it is indeed strange.
[17:48] <olpirn> I think there's a lot to improve in there...
[17:48] <TJ-> Lurchy: you could shrink the file-system(s) on the HDD first, so they would fit on the SSD, then copy them over
[17:49] <daftykins> the guy wants to add RAID for /home anyway so it sounds like a clean approach would be handy to me
[17:49] <makk> oh home as raid, i dont got this than it will not work
[17:51] <TJ-> I thought it was 'archives' on the RAID array?
[17:51] <daftykins> who knows what that means :>
[17:51] <malikilam> hhh
[17:51] <daftykins> 64GB certainly won't be enough for all
[17:52] <Lurchy> hmmm
[17:52] <Lurchy> well....I plan on makign this a media server...among other things
[17:53] <Lurchy> want to keep media archives on another disk...since I have 150GB+ of MP3s and such
[17:54] <daftykins> best way is full install to the SSD then, with /home/username/$media_folder symlink'd to the mechanical storage
[17:54] <daftykins> where $media_folder is Pictures, Music, Video, etc.
[17:54] <Lurchy> yes
[17:56] <tgm4883> Anyone else seeing cdimage and/or the ppa's being super slow to download from right now (currently getting 33kB/s)
[17:59] <daftykins> tgm4883: any difference from releases. ?
[17:59] <tgm4883> daftykins: nope, slow there as well
[18:00] <daftykins> torrent? :)
[18:00] <ioria> tgm4883, idk if it's what you meant, but ff gives me 9 h to download the ubuntu iso
[18:00] <tgm4883> daftykins: there isn't a torrent for dailies and/or PPA
[18:00] <daftykins> ah, forgive my mind reading inability :P
[18:01] <TJ-> tgm4883: nothing being reported on the server status page
[18:01] <ioria> tgm4883, yep, 33 kb
[18:01] <tgm4883> ioria: yea that's roughly what I'm getting to
[18:01] <tgm4883> TJ-: where is the status page?
[18:02] <TJ-> tgm4883: http://status.admin.canonical.com/
[18:02] <nicomachus> I take it the guys at #canonical-sysadmin are still on holiday
[18:03] <invisime> I have a brand new Mint install that's crashing intermittently. first the mouse sort of "sticks", then stops responding altogether, then the whole system locks up (no keyboard input accepted, Ctrl+Alt+Del and Ctrl+Alt+F# don't do anything). is there a log I should check to see what's wrong?
[18:03] <nicomachus> !mint | invisime
[18:04] <invisime> ouch. directing me to another server, entirely?
[18:04] <invisime> I was under the impression that the vast majority of mint was actually ubuntu.
[18:05] <ioria> tgm4883, no proble with lubuntu 890 kb
[18:05] <daftykins> invisime: wrong, i'm afraid - Mint has its' own problems.
[18:05] <tgm4883> invisime: that is where their support is. We don't control that
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> invisime  it's a different distro, like ubuntu is different from debian
[18:07] <makk> Does someone know what the ~/.cache/oneconf/ folder ist storing? I got a warning in journalctl -f
[18:07] <stevej> if you add the mint repository to debian 8.2 stable, and install the mint packages, you get lmde 2
[18:08] <makk> WARNING:oneconf.hosts:Error in loading other_hosts file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/makk/.cache/oneconf/b5dab7d4a52740acae2ce4007af8a5c8/other_hosts'
[18:08] <olpirn> By the way, as I've just had a major issue that was all caused by the keyboard indicator and a change to /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml - is this channel a good place to talk about issues with keyboard layouts, or are there better places for this?
[18:08] <daftykins> stevej: off topic
[18:10] <six86> Hello. I hve problems creating a usb install stick. No matte what I try, I get "boot error" when trying to boot. I tried the startup disk creator on ubuntu 15.10. What I want to create is a 14.04 install stick. I also tried unetbootin, which took much much longer to create, but resulted in the same error...
[18:11] <julien12> six86, did you try to format the stick before ? I had the same problem
[18:11] <boxmein> can I tell unity not to let me move windows in the workspace switcher so that the window decoration ends up between two workspaces
[18:12] <ioria> olpirn, you can't  change layouts or what  ?
[18:12] <boxmein> (eg http://snag.gy/6DJBw.jpg and http://snag.gy/sgsRa.jpg )
[18:13] <ioria> six86 can you give us the complete error ?
[18:13] <Skyrider> TJ-
[18:14] <Skyrider> Sorry for the less replies, wife's around.
[18:14] <Skyrider> I ran he command.
[18:14] <Lurchy> wife?  you mean the "Boss"
[18:14] <Lurchy> ?
[18:14] <makk> lol
[18:14] <Skyrider> In a way, ya.. lol
[18:14] <Skyrider> Mode[G] Channels: - Mode[A] Channels and Mode[B] Channels:
[18:14] <Lurchy> I feel ya brother....I am hiding...told her I am "working"
[18:15] <Skyrider> on some 5GHZ channels it says NO_IR and others NO_IR) DFS
[18:15] <olpirn> ioria, I sure can. But I've got some specific issues. For example, when changing the layout list in evdev.xml, the changes don't seem to take effect until I logout and login again. Is there a way to restart indicator-keyboard without having to logout and back in?
[18:15] <Lurchy> my wife...not yours
[18:15] <Lurchy> lol
[18:16] <TJ-> Skyrider: try to use a channel that doesn't have "NO_IR DFS" after it
[18:16] <Skyrider> oke.. trying.. 36
[18:17] <TJ-> Skyrider: if it still fails doing that, it suggests that the problem isn't directly due to missing support for those functions
[18:17] <TJ-> Skyrider: but as we're talking about a very thin layer of code in the kernel that is passing requests to the chipset's firmware blob, we can't know for sure what is going on
[18:17] <six86> julien12: I tried two different sticks and formatted/partitoned them with gparted
[18:18] <ioria> olpirn, well, i could be wrong, but that file it's not supposed  to be edited .... you do what you need from System Settings -> language Support   ( i know that not an answer to your q)
[18:18] <TJ-> Skyrider: I couldn't find any mention of 802.11a infrastructure-mode working, or not working, for the WUSB600N/rt2800usb
[18:18] <Skyrider> :-\
[18:19] <six86> ioria: It's just "Boot error" after the line that shows some Info: "SYSLINUX 6.03 EDD [...] Peter Alvin et al"
[18:19] <Skyrider> no ide
[18:19] <Skyrider> **dice
[18:19] <TJ-> tgm4883: I tested cdimages. ... was getting full speed on my link
[18:20] <ioria> six86  you did the usb with startup disk creator ?
[18:20] <six86> 3 times on 2 Systems. And then one time with unetbootin.
[18:21] <olpirn> ioria, one needs to change that file when installing new layouts (not just choosing existing ones to use).
[18:21] <ioria> olpirn, ah... i see
[18:21] <makk> six86, i got this problem a time ago with archlinux and i hade to use dd command to get the iso on the usb
[18:21] <TJ-> six86: "boot error" is a Syslinux report (the boot-loader) and can be caused by certain bugs in the BIOS/firmware. Try holding down the Ctrl key as the system is booting to cause one of the inbuilt workarounds
[18:21] <Skyrider> weird stuff that it aint working.
[18:22] <TJ-> Skyrider: the error report in the kernel log is triggered directly via a call into the kernel, which calls into the device itself and passes back the error report
[18:22] <sudomarize> how would i create an alias like "cat myfile.txt | somefunction"? where i can just call "newfunction myfile.txt"?
[18:22] <Skyrider> so I'm stuck with 2.4
[18:22] <TJ-> sudomarize: create a function instead
[18:22] <ioria> olpirn,  and now , what are you trying ?    (you can always use   sudo if=/file.iso   of=/dev/sdx)
[18:22] <sudomarize> TJ-: how would i do that?
[18:22] <ioria> sorry
[18:23] <ioria> six86  and now , what are you trying ?    (you can always use   sudo if=/file.iso   of=/dev/sdx)
[18:23] <six86> I resd something about not being able to use startup disk creator for older versions...
[18:23] <nicomachus> hmm... this is a new one "spotify: error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:23] <six86> ioria: I will try dd
[18:23] <ioria> olpirn,    sudo dd if=/file.iso   of=/dev/sdx
[18:24] <makk> olpirn, for the of= part dont use /dev/sdx1 or somethink use the hole device not apartion
[18:26] <nicomachus> looks like spotify needs libgcrypt 11, but ubuntu only has 20.
[18:26] <TJ-> As well as creating aliases, you can create shell functions that are in the .bashrc or similar. E.g. "function newfunction() { cat "$1" | "$2"; }" and then be able to call it as "newfunction myfile.txt somefunction"
[18:26] <olpirn> ioria and makk: I don't understand - what is this dd and if and of and /file.sio and /dev/sdx?
[18:27] <olpirn> (Maybe it was meant for another user?)
[18:27] <makk> olpirn, yes it was meant for another user
[18:27] <ioria> olpirn,    convert and copy a file
[18:27] <makk> olpirn, srry
[18:27] <TJ-> nicomachus: you could try symlinking "ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcrypt.so.20 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcrypt.so.11"
[18:27] <ioria> olpirn,  yep, not for you :þ
[18:28] <six86> dd works! :-D
[18:28] <six86> Forget the fancy tools :D
[18:28] <makk> you allready booted it?
[18:28] <six86> yep
[18:28] <makk> nice
[18:28] <ioria> six86  good
[18:29] <nicomachus> thanks TJ-. Makes me curious what happened to break it... Trying to remember the last time I used Spotify on this machine.
[18:29] <ioria> olpirn,  that's for you  : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions
[18:29] <TJ-> nicomachus: 14.04 possible?
[18:29] <TJ-> !info libgcrypt trusty
[18:29] <nicomachus> I'm *sure* i've used it since upgrading to 15.10
[18:29] <TJ-> !info libgcrypt11 trusty
[18:29] <TJ-> !info libgcrypt11 vivid
[18:30] <nicomachus> yep... vivid has 20. huh. guess I haven't used it in awhile...
[18:31] <olpirn> Thanks, ioria, I've visited that page already. Unfortunately, there's no answer there. (Other than removing the cache files, which helps load new layouts, but not the new layout list.)
[18:31] <tarvid> is there an easy way to locate the mouse pointer on a high resultion screen?
[18:32] <ioria> olpirn,  sorry about that
[18:32] <alph_> hallo
[18:33] <Skyrider> TJ- I give up on 5ghz support.
[18:33] <alph_> exit
[18:33] <Skyrider> I however want to thank you for the support, I'm glad the hotspot is working.
[18:33] <Skyrider> So I appreciate it.
[18:34] <TJ-> Skyrider: if you do find a way, please let me/us know
[18:35] <Skyrider> Will do, but I doubt I'll find a way atm.
[18:35] <olpirn> It's OK, ioria, thanks. I also have much more specific questions. There seems to be a serious lack of information on the web regarding xkb :-(
[18:35] <nicomachus> TJ-: well, here's the answer to pretty much all of my questions, in case someone else wanders in looking for help with that issue: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/09/install-spotify-client-ubuntu-15-10/
[18:36] <nicomachus> I was on stable instead of testing, and stable only works in 14.04 atm
[18:36] <olpirn> If anybody knows a forum or a channel or something where there are people who can answer questions about the inner workings of xkb, please do tell.
[18:37] <sjoshi> !info shareit
[18:37] <makk> olpirn, maybe in #xorg someone can help
[18:38] <TJ-> nicomachus: ahhh!
[18:38] <Dynamicwork> !info wine-staging
[18:38] <Dynamicwork> !info wine-staging trusty
[18:38] <olpirn> Thanks, makk! If somebody somewhere can help it's most likely there :-)
[18:39] <Dynamicwork> !info wine-staging-amd64 precise
[18:39] <makk> olpirn, or in ##linux
[18:39] <Dynamicwork> !info wine-staging precise
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | Dynamicwork
[18:39] <ioria> olpirn,  well, xkb is part of xorg,  so ...
[18:40] <olpirn> ioria: Yes, I'm sorry, I'm very new to this IRC thing. It will take me some time to figure it all out. But you guys have been very helpful - thanks!
[18:41] <ioria> olpirn,  np, http://www.x.org/wiki/XKB/
[18:42] <olpirn> ioria, Yes, I've seen that page as well. Lots of good information, too! Unfortunately, no answers to my (indeed very specific) questions... A knowledgeable person willing to help is worth much more than thousands of thousands of non-interactive words...
[18:43] <makk> olpirn, thats true, there for irc is nice
[18:44] <ioria> olpirn, maybe i'm too curious.... what's you specific issue ?
[18:45] <ioria> olpirn,  i mean, why you need to edit evdev.xml ?
[18:45] <olpirn> ioria: I'm creating my own special keyboard layouts.
[18:46] <ioria> olpirn,  ok
[18:47] <makk> olpirn, is there no better hobby around? :-)
[18:50] <sudomarize> TJ-: awesome, thanks
[18:53] <ralph4100> does anyone know of a good guide for storing passwords as environment variables? would like to move to that instead of storing them in various config files, but don't want to do it wrong as these are passwords, and can't seem to find anything helpful.
[18:54] <olpirn> makk: It's not my only hobby, but I do like it. And I enjoy not only the process of creating them, but also using them afterwards. Being able to type the way I like really makes my life better - considering the number of hours I spend with a keyboard each day...
[18:54] <olpirn> I'll be off now. Thanks again, makk, ioria and k1l!
[18:54] <makk> olpirn, sound cool have fun cu
[18:55] <ioria> olpirn,  np, good luck
[18:57] <makk> ralph4100, you coud store your passwart as a hash variable, and build a function that hashes the input of an password and compare it to the stored hash
[18:58] <ralph4100> makk, well I mean to store passwords for various things ... like instead of putting a password in a muttrc, reference the var in bashrc
[18:58] <bh> I'm running into a bit of trouble configuring an Ipsec/LT2P vpn. Tips for debugging would be appreciated. At the moment I'm not seeing anything in syslog when I attempt to connect, ipsec verify returns a clean bill of health
[18:58] <makk> ralph4100, oh ok than i missread your comment
[18:58] <ralph4100> makk, that way 1) my config files don't need to be secret, 2) all passwords in one place, can be easily changed
[19:00] <makk> ralph4100, at least i would never store my password as envirement variables in clear text. Everyone has acces to the envirement variable if i not missleaded
[19:01] <tgm4883> ralph4100: you wouldn't make them enviroment variables. You would just source the password file when launching the application
[19:04] <lordleojz> hola
[19:06] <Finetundra> Can someone tell me how I can write a .img to a floppy disk?
[19:07] <bekks> Finetundra: Using dd.
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra: unpack it and drag contents to the floppy
[19:07] <bekks> lotuspsychje: That will not leave you with anything usable.
[19:07] <Finetundra> bekks: could you explain?
[19:07] <bekks> lotuspsychje: an "img" file is just a full clone of the contents of a device. So you need to transfer it to the device.
[19:08] <bekks> Finetundra: dd if=/path/to/your.img of=/dev/yourfloppydevice bs=2M; sync; sync
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> bekks: i mean unpack with some program that handles iso, img etc
[19:08] <SchrodingersScat> bekks: why the double sync?
[19:09] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Neither iso not img are archive formats.
[19:09] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: For ensuring the IO buffer is written down to the device.
[19:10] <barnyard_animal> hey guys, new to linux, wondering how I install packages?  Is there no software center?  I could use command line but unsure if there's somewhere else I should be doing it
[19:10] <SchrodingersScat> !software | barnyard_animal
[19:11] <barnyard_animal> thanks!
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> barnyard_animal: software center, synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, apt should all do about the same things, so it's your preference for which you choose.
[19:15] <Finetundra> bekks: if I have of=/dev/media/<username>/disk returns no such file or directory
[19:15] <bekks> Finetundra: Then you issued the wrong path.
[19:18] <Finetundra> bekks: if I set the file path to /media/<username>/disk I get told that it's a directory
[19:18] <bekks> Finetundra: Then use a valid path instead.
[19:18] <bekks> Finetundra: We dont know where you stored the img file.
[19:19] <Finetundra> the first path should be to the .img file, yes? not the second one
[19:19] <Finetundra> ?
[19:19] <makk> Finetundra, you know wherre your floppy device ist located in /dev?
[19:19] <Finetundra> makk: no
[19:20] <makk> Finetundra, yes the of part ist the device
[19:20] <makk> the if part is the image
[19:20] <makk> Finetundra, you need to know where your floppy device is located to put the path to it in the of part
[19:21] <Finetundra> makk: where would it be normally?
[19:21] <tomasq> Hello! Is here any Ubuntu developer?
[19:21] <makk> Finetundra, but i never did somethink with floppy disk so i have no idear how they are stored in /dev
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> tomasq: #ubuntu-devel
[19:21] <MiningMarsh> /dev/fd0
[19:22] <MiningMarsh> fd is the name of floppies usually
[19:22] <MiningMarsh> iirc
[19:22] <makk> Finetundra, there you have it from MiningMarsh
[19:24] <barnyard_animal> Where is the ubuntu software center on ubuntu mate desktop 1.10.2?
[19:24] <barnyard_animal> I installed synaptic but am following the tutorial and cannot find the software center
[19:24] <makk> barnyard_animal, open a temrinal and type software-center
[19:25] <makk> barnyard_animal, this should open it
[19:25] <Finetundra> MiningMarsh: how would I determine what the disk number is?
[19:26] <Grimm_> Hello can someone helpout? I tried to dual boot Ununtu 15.04 with Android x86. I had just 1 partition [/] on ubuntu so when I was asked during installation to create a new partition, I could not shrink sda1 (where Ubuntu was)
[19:26] <makk> Finetundra, if you type /dev/fd and than tab you should get some otions, hopefully only 1
[19:27] <barnyard_animal> Thanks makk, wasn't installed by default.
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> Grimm_  backup ubuntu to a safe place - boot live dvd or usb - delete partition with gparted - create new partitions - install what you want
[19:27] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: Do you have something on the disk already?
[19:27] <MiningMarsh> if so, sudo blkid
[19:27] <MiningMarsh> will usually find it
[19:28] <Finetundra> MiningMarsh: there shouldn't be. I can try a fresh disk
[19:29] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: ls /dev/fd* and just look for whatever number is listed.
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[19:29] <makk> lol i have no floppy drive at all and i got number 0 to 3^
[19:30] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: oh wait a minute shit don't use fd
[19:31] <MiningMarsh> I just double checked, apparently fd is an alias for /dev/pts/*
[19:31] <henvio> q
[19:31] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: yeah I have no idea what path the floppy drive is at, I apoligize.
[19:33] <makk> MiningMarsh, is ist save to just dry the /dev/fd/numbers with dd or yould this harm somethink?
[19:33] <henvio> sfdas
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> henvio  it works, we see you
[19:36] <makk> Finetundra, did it work?
[19:39] <Grimm_> I canged the sector to begin at 4096 from 2048 then changed it back and wrote changes to the partion table. Before writting changes a warning pop up said I might expirence data loss if I continue
[19:39] <Quantos> And?
[19:40] <Quantos> Did you experience data loss?
[19:40] <Grimm_> I continued but I did not install Android again I did ctrl+alt+delete
[19:40] <Grimm_> But it does not boot Ubuntu
[19:40] <Finetundra> makk: no
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> Grimm_  if you made a backup, you can do what you want, then data loss is no drama
[19:41] <Quantos> ^^^
[19:42] <makk> Finetundra, "lsmod | grep -i floppy" to se if a floppy module is loaded
[19:42] <ioria> Finetundra, i downloaded a .img  file , and did   dd if=disk1.img of=/dev/fd0
[19:42] <Grimm_> It lands me on the display when I used to press F12 before seeing
[19:44] <ioria> Finetundra, with sudo, i mean
[19:47] <ravster> hello all
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> ravster: welcome
[19:48] <ravster> I'm on Wily, and trying to get nodejs v4, but http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/nodejs is referring to nodejs v0.10.  Is there something I'm missing about nodejs versioning in ubuntu?
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> !latest | ravster
[19:50] <MiningMarsh> ravster: everything past node 0.10-14 is usually considered unstable
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> ravster: its reccomended to use package versions, specific for your ubuntu version
[19:50] <MiningMarsh> on various distros
[19:50] <MiningMarsh> I believe the version jump causes a lot of NPM package breakage
[19:50] <JanC> that hhy66 is/was a spammer
[19:51] <MiningMarsh> I know it did for me when I tried 4.1...
[19:51] <ravster> oh ok.  thanks for the heads up
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> JanC: maybe report to the ops channel?
[19:54] <OerHeks> hjgy87, please don't spam here, thanks
[19:55] <GoChargers> Hello!  Looking for help with remote connections.  I have Ubuntu set up as a media server, but I can't seem to access it remotely.  Wondering what sort of things I should look at.  Already checked ufw, it is disabled.
[19:56] <OerHeks> GoChargers, how would you connect, ssh? vnc?
[19:56] <Turnip_Green> Guys any news on a fix for 15.10 and Catalyst drivers?
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> Turnip_Green: wich card you havin?
[19:57] <Turnip_Green> R9 270
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> Turnip_Green: talk to the #gamingonlinux guys, their always up to date
[19:57] <Turnip_Green> Cool thanks
[19:58] <GoChargers> OerHeks:  Previous install worked fine.  Used mythmote (on android), vsftpd (for fsync on android), occasional vnc with vino, and two smart tvs would find my plex server.  Now, only vsftpd works.
[19:58] <OerHeks> seems like the releasebug is solved, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[19:59] <OerHeks> GoChargers, so ... vnc + vino?
[20:01] <GoChargers> OerHeks:  just tried to start vino, and it says "The desktop sharing service is not enabled, so it should not be run"
[20:02] <ioria> GoChargers,  try /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[20:02] <Finetundra> makk: that yields floppy 		55416 1
[20:02] <GoChargers> ioria:  That's how I launched vino.
[20:03] <ioria> GoChargers,  ps -A | grep vino
[20:03] <GoChargers> ioria:  no output for that command.  When launching vino, I get this:  ** (vino-server:5590): WARNING **: The desktop sharing service is not enabled, so it should not be run.
[20:04] <Finetundra> ioria: doing it that way it does run but it says 0 bytes copied
[20:04] <ioria> Finetundra, what .img is ?  is good ?
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> GoChargers: cant you use openssh for the management? vnc is a danger to use
[20:06] <Finetundra> ioria:  for the rhapsody beta OS from apple(circa 1997). As best I can tell, yes it's good, though I don't know how I'd check it
[20:06] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: what command did you run?
[20:06] <ioria> GoChargers,  go in dash and type vino
[20:07] <Finetundra> MiningMarsh: I cd'd over to the directory with the .img and did "sudo dd if=<long disk name>.img of=/dev/fd0"
[20:07] <ioria> Finetundra, so you can format the floppy with Disks and try again dd
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: yeah, like I said, I was wrong, /dev/fd0 is not in fact a floppy disk
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> as far as I can tell
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> on my system at least, it is a symlink to /dev/ptc
[20:08] <ioria> MiningMarsh, no, it is
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> *pts
[20:08] <ioria> MiningMarsh, i just did it
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> ioria: Oh okay. I went to double check and my /dev/fd was linked to /dev/pts/*
[20:09] <MiningMarsh> ioria: Good to know then.
[20:09] <GoChargers> ioria, lotuspsychje:  vino is fixed now, turns out I just needed to go into vino-preferences.
[20:09] <ioria> MiningMarsh,  not fd  /dev/fd0
[20:09] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: try ddrescue maybe to see if it complains about bad sectors?
[20:09] <GoChargers> still no luck with the media sharing though.
[20:09] <MiningMarsh> ioria: Yeah, I see.
[20:09] <ioria> GoChargers,  gooooooodddddddddd
[20:09] <MiningMarsh> ioria: I thought fd0 was floppy, wasn't 100% sure
[20:10] <ioria> MiningMarsh,  yeah
[20:10] <ioria> Finetundra, it's also possible that your floppy (as many of mine) is old  and ruined ....
[20:11] <daftykins> ^ i had to repeatedly read over 15x from the last floppy i used to remagnetise the thing (my assumption) before it'd get data off a disk again
[20:11] <daftykins> thing being the drive
[20:12] <ioria> yeah
[20:14] <atif089> Hey guys, I understand this is an official Ubuntu channel and I'm here to ask a question that might be to specific for my needs and not relevant to most of the users here. Can anyone recommend me a right channel to seek advice for my Ubuntu based remote desktop setup?
[20:15] <Finetundra> ioria: can they just go bad with age?
[20:15] <ioria> Finetundra, i'm afraid , yes
[20:15] <Finetundra> well crap
[20:15] <daftykins> atif089: just ask the question, as long as it's really ubuntu it's fine.
[20:16] <ioria> Finetundra, it's not a cd, it's mylar (like the old music cassette)
[20:16] <ioria> Finetundra, that's why i told you to format it again
[20:16] <Finetundra> ioria: using?
[20:17] <ioria> Finetundra, Disks
[20:18] <Finetundra> ioria: shold that be preinstalled?
[20:18] <ioria> Finetundra, yes
[20:18] <Finetundra> ioria: what would the terminal command be?
[20:19] <daftykins> call me crazy but try just formatting the diskette and putting a text file on it before trying the intended data, whatever form it may be in
[20:19] <daftykins> Finetundra: disks is a GUI program
[20:19] <bekks> Finetundra: Throw the floppy away, use a new one.
[20:19] <ioria> Finetundra, what ubuntu are you on ?
[20:20] <Finetundra> ioria: 14.04
[20:20] <ioria> Finetundra, Unity ?
[20:20] <Finetundra> ioria: XFCE
[20:21] <ioria> Finetundra, http://askubuntu.com/questions/577002/how-do-i-open-disk-utility-in-xfce
[20:22] <Finetundra> this may be more trouble than I thought
[20:22] <atif089> daftykins: Thanks.
[20:22] <atif089> I have a Windows laptop on which I want to install Ubuntu so that I can use it as my development laptop for developing Android apps. The reason I want to install Ubuntu is because I want to connect remotely from a desktop on same network. If all of this doesn't sound stupid, here are the few questions?
[20:22] <atif089> * Is Ubuntu a good choice or should I go with some other OS?
[20:22] <atif089> * Can multiple users connect on Ubuntu like RHEL5? I remember using NoMachine on RHEL5 where I could get 2 GUIs, 1 on the original PC and 1 on the remote PC?
[20:22] <atif089> * Is VNC also same as NoMachine?
[20:22] <bekks> Finetundra: Still on putting an img onto a floppy?
[20:23] <atif089> ^^ sorry about white spaces, I typed in a different editor and it added extra line characters I think
[20:23] <MiningMarsh> atif089: Yes on the first two questions.
[20:23] <Finetundra> bekks: yes. ioria has advised me to format the disk
[20:23] <ioria> Finetundra,  or change it, if you can
[20:23] <MiningMarsh> atif089: and apparently nomachine supports VNC sessions.
[20:23] <bekks> Finetundra: What for? using dd and putting a file on it destroys and overwrites every format.
[20:23] <bekks> Finetundra: Which dd command did you use?
[20:24] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: try ddrescue.
[20:24] <MiningMarsh> I imaging the issue is probably a dead disk.
[20:24] <bekks> Finetundra: No need for ddrescue.
[20:24] <MiningMarsh> *imagine
[20:24] <deskwizard> Hi :)
[20:24] <Finetundra> bekks: sudo dd if=<long disk image name>.img of=/dev/fd0
[20:24] <bekks> Finetundra: And what is the output of that command?
[20:25] <deskwizard> quick question for you knowledgeable people... on 14.04, the volume change popups... anywhere I can change the timeout for those ?
[20:25] <atif089> MiningMarsh: in laymans terms, I can connect to that computer and do my work without disturbing my wife's web browsing activity (except consuming all the CPU of course)
[20:25] <MiningMarsh> atif089: Yeah, that shouldn't be an issue.
[20:25] <deskwizard> well, all those kind of popups
[20:25] <MiningMarsh> atif089: Any linux distro should support that no-problem.
[20:25] <ioria> Finetundra,  if the format fails, could mean that the disk is bad ....
[20:26] <bekks> ioria: Only if you used a full format using badblocks before.
[20:26] <atif089> MiningMarsh: perfect! Thanks for saving my $1000 on a new computer.  I was contemplating in getting a new i7 but I have an i5 laptop lying around. So I can use it now :-) AWesome!
[20:27] <Finetundra> 0+0 records in  0+0 records out 0 bytes (0 b) copied 0.000359464 s, 0.0kb/s. bekks
[20:27] <bekks> Finetundra: Full, exact command, full exact output into a pastebin.
[20:27] <bekks> Finetundra: Not just random lines.
[20:30] <Finetundra> bekks: http://pastebin.com/mSZBLbU6
[20:30] <Finetundra> I am cd'd into the directory with the img file
[20:30] <zza> hello, how to zip a lot of files individually and with pass-> for f in *.txt;do;aaa=`echo "$f" | sed s/txt/zip/g`;zip -e "$aaa" "$f";done
[20:30] <bekks> Finetundra: And you are in the same directory as that image file AND fd1 is your second floppy?
[20:31] <zza> how to write the same password in for?
[20:31] <sw0rdy> hey guys
[20:31] <sw0rdy> my camera won't work on skype
[20:31] <sw0rdy> its available in the options
[20:32] <Finetundra> bekks: yes
[20:32] <sw0rdy> but not in calls
[20:32] <bekks> Finetundra: Then your image file is zero bytes, since nothing was written.
[20:32] <sw0rdy> ffs
[20:32] <Finetundra> bekks: well you see, that's where the issue is
[20:33] <bekks> Finetundra: the issue is either using a 0 byte image or the wrong floppy device.
[20:33] <ioria> Finetundra,  can you give me the link to the  .img ?
[20:33] <daftykins> sw0rdy: not much we can do given skype is proprietary, tried other programs to see if they view it ok?
[20:34] <sw0rdy> like what other programs can i use?
[20:34] <daftykins> cheese
[20:35] <sw0rdy> ok
[20:36] <sw0rdy> thanks
[20:40] <ioria> Finetundra,  sorry, don't find .img on that site , can you provide the file url ?
[20:40] <bekks> Finetundra: Whats the output of "dmesg | grep -i fd"?
[20:42] <sw0rdy> daftykins, cheese works
[20:42] <sw0rdy> i found this v
[20:42] <sw0rdy> http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Camera-does-not-work-with-Skype-on-Ubuntu-14-04/td-p/3162718
[20:42] <tsapii> hello i have a problem with installing ubuntu on a laptop with a pre-existing windows 8 installation. the whole disk is currently used by the windows 8 disk and i'd like to cut its size in half
[20:43] <sw0rdy> didn't work but maybe i should restart
[20:43] <sw0rdy> for it to work
[20:43] <tsapii> however the partition manager is not able to detect the used size of the windows partition so i cannot resize it
[20:43] <tsapii> i can mount it fine, and if i do the partition manager sees the used size correctly
[20:43] <daftykins> tsapii: resize Windows from inside Windows, alternatively - you may've booted your ubuntu media non-EFI when it needs to have been EFI booted
[20:44] <tsapii> i am pretty sure i booted it with efi but may also be wrong
[20:44] <tsapii> in any case i shall try resizing from within windows
[20:44] <tsapii> thanks
[20:44] <Finetundra> bekks: http://pastebin.com/pZauUe8E
[20:44] <daftykins> boot, run diskmgmt.msc, right click and shrink
[20:45] <tsapii> thanks
[20:45] <sw0rdy> daftykins, what you think?
[20:45] <daftykins> sw0rdy: didn't look
[20:45] <sw0rdy> well
[20:45] <sw0rdy> its ok
[20:45] <donna> irc.freenode.net
[20:45] <Guest9969> hello as of recently ctrl-alt-f(1-6) hasn't been working for me.  Anyone have any ideas why this'd happen?
[20:45] <sw0rdy> I'll just restart anyway
[20:45] <sw0rdy> brb
[20:45] <bekks> Finetundra: As can be clearly seen, you a) dont have a second floppy device, but just one and b) that one device is named fd0
[20:46] <Guest80268> Hello, i was wondering if anyone could answer me a question
[20:46] <bekks> Guest80268: You have to ask your question instead.
[20:46] <Finetundra> bekks: changing it to fd0 returns the same
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest80268  let's hear it, in oneline
[20:47] <daftykins> one cannot answer what has not been asked (:
[20:47] <Guest80268> would i be able to take an ssd that has ubuntu pre-installed and configured and swap it into a nuc without any trouble?
[20:47] <bekks> Finetundra: Which doesnt make fd1 magically existing, suddenly ;)
[20:47] <daftykins> Guest80268: yes depending on graphics drivers that may've been added
[20:47] <sw0rdy> well that was a quick reboot :D
[20:48] <Finetundra> bekks: irrelevant
[20:48] <sw0rdy> time for the moment of truth
[20:48] <bekks> Finetundra: Absoluetly not. Using the wrong device is nothing you should be expecting to work out successfully.
[20:48] <sw0rdy> the tipping point between xubuntu and windows 7 haha
[20:48] <Guest80268> Well my main rig has a gtx970, but I've not added any drivers
[20:48] <bekks> Finetundra: So pastebin "ls -lah filename" of that image file, and the full output when writing it to /dev/fd0
[20:48] <Finetundra> bekks: it is irrelevant if both fd1 and fd0 return the same
[20:49] <bekks> Finetundra: It is NOT irrelevant.
[20:49] <ioria> Finetundra,  how big is it this .img ?
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> Guest80268: clean installs are very reccomended
[20:49] <sw0rdy> fuck it
[20:49] <al_nz1> Morning
[20:50] <bekks> sw0rdy: can you please watch your language?
[20:50] <sw0rdy> daftykins, I have to remove ubuntu and put windows 7 for this :S
[20:50] <al_nz1> whats the easiest way to install stuff from github on Ubuntu?
[20:50] <rom1504> al_nz1: using git clone
[20:50] <rom1504> next question
[20:50] <sw0rdy> ahh, sorry bekks forgot that this is a family-friendly channel
[20:50] <al_nz1> rom1504: ta
[20:51] <rom1504> ta
[20:51] <Guest80268> lotuspsychje, it kind of defeats the point of me swapping it out in the first place
[20:51] <daftykins> sw0rdy: or get another camera you mean... i wouldn't give up so easily though if you've only been at it like 10 minutes.
[20:51] <CruelDualBoot> I'm looking to dual boot Windows 8.1 and Xubuntu, and I need a little insight into UEFI. Anyone willing and able to assist?
[20:51] <sw0rdy> daftykins, thanks for the help the past couple a days bro, you've been tremendous
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | CruelDualBoot
[20:51] <Ceees2> Can someone shine me some light on the order of a chain in iptables? I want to block a range of ports, but allow one port inside the the same range. Should I first drop the range of ports, and then allow the one port?
[20:52] <Finetundra> ioria: 1.44MB
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | Ceees2
[20:52] <sw0rdy> but i give up because this is for my dad's friend and I'd rather be focusing on how to make money so i can have a little more than 10 bucks in my pockets
[20:52] <tsapii> bleh, it appears that the windows partition suffers from filesystem corruption
[20:52] <bekks> Finetundra: Pastebin ls.
[20:52] <sw0rdy> don't have time daftykins bro
[20:52] <tsapii> need to chkdsk.exe this
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> Ceees2: the #netfilter guys might also assist
[20:52] <sw0rdy> see you from home, I'll be there in 5 min :D
[20:52] <daftykins> sw0rdy: oh that's you - yeah this is why converting others is often a mistake
[20:52] <ioria> Finetundra,  send me, (if you want)
[20:52] <sw0rdy> brb
[20:52] <Ceees2> thanks
[20:53] <tsapii> this may be the reason the partition manager was so unable to find the pratition size
[20:53] <tsapii> unable to find the used size, rather
[20:53] <Finetundra> bekks: http://pastebin.com/87xqeHb7
[20:53] <daftykins> tsapii: you need to shutdown out of windows properly yeah, "shutdown -s -t 1" tends to be a good method in 8 and 10, or hold shift when clicking shutdown
[20:53] <Finetundra> ioria: send you what?
[20:54] <ioria> Finetundra,  the file. i cannot find it ...
[20:54] <Guest9969> ctrl-alt-f(*) switches to a black screen for me, ctrl-alt-f7 works normally. I'm not sure how to debug this
[20:54] <daftykins> Guest9969: sounds like you're using proprietary graphics drivers - is it on a TV by any chance?
[20:55] <bekks> Finetundra: Bingo. That file is ZERO bytes.
[20:55] <bekks> Finetundra: Fix it, try again.
[20:56] <CruelDualBoot> Thanks, lotuspsychje. I was a little concerned because I've already partitioned and installed Xubuntu. It's on my comp, but the boot menu isn't reading. And I know, there are methods to get it to recognize grub, but I've biffed it before on an OS install like this, and I'd really like to avoid as much pain as I can.
[20:56] <senaps> i can't lower down my screen brightness in acer 4750.... any help?(tried fn+ > or < that used to control screen brightness in windows)
[20:56] <ioria> Finetundra,  bekks is right ... is '0'
[20:56] <Guest9969> daftykins: am I Guest9969?
[20:57] <daftykins> senaps: you may need to add the kernel boot parameter "acpi_backlight=vendor" for this to work.
[20:57] <daftykins> Guest9969: yes, do you not see it when you type?
[20:57] <ioria> Finetundra,  you have nothing in that file
[20:57] <Finetundra> bekks: I swear to god it read as 1.44MB
[20:57] <senaps> daftykins: anymore instructions?
[20:57] <Guest9969> daftykins: I see me name as me2. I'm still new to irc so this is a bit weird for me
[20:57] <bekks> Finetundra: Even without being religious, you can SEE that the file is 0 bytes. So there is no point in discussing it.
[20:58] <NomadJim> if I just want an ubuntu for a long time, should I install 14.04.0 or 14.04.1?
[20:58] <ioria> Finetundra,  try to send me
[20:58] <daftykins> senaps: well you would boot up, hold left shift to get the GRUB menu, press 'e' to edit the normal boot entry highlighted and edit it so what i mentioned is after 'quiet splash' on the kernel= line
[20:59] <bekks> ioria: Send you a 0 byte file?
[20:59] <bekks> ioria: What do you expect from it? :)
[20:59] <CruelDualBoot> Mainly, I need to know: If I was able to start a Live Session from a flash drive without any trouble on a UEFI machine, does that mean that it's already a UEFI version of Xubuntu, or do I have to go through the steps listed here (http://linux.about.com/od/howtos/ss/How-To-Create-A-UEFI-Bootable-Ubuntu-USB-Drive-Using-Windows.htm)?
[20:59] <ioria> bekks, yep
[20:59] <senaps> daftykins: anyway to do that while im logged in? from my own terminal?
[20:59] <ioria> bekks, nothing
[20:59] <bekks> ioria: So we can omit that nonsense and continue. Thanks.
[20:59] <daftykins> senaps: it's better to test it this way to see if it works instead of apply it permanently.
[21:00] <Finetundra> bekks: I just recopied the file and it now writes
[21:00] <Bashing-om> NomadJim: 14.04.0/1/2/3 will upgrade t0 14.04.4 when the next point release is released . presently we are at 14.04.3 .
[21:00] <Guest9969> daftykins: anyways I'm using fglrx-updates as my amd graphics driver.  It's on my pc. It used to work correctly as of a few weeks ago
[21:00] <bekks> Finetundra: Check the size.
[21:00] <CruelDualBoot> To put it another way, since I used unetbootin to make the flash drive, does unetbootin automatically make the ISO image "play nice" with UEFI?
[21:00] <daftykins> Guest9969: yeah so that driver is what's ruining TTY usage.
[21:01] <NomadJim> Bashing-om:  is upgrading to .4 going to require a reboot?
[21:01] <ioria> Finetundra,  this is good
[21:01] <daftykins> Guest9969: you could confirm it's being used properly via "sudo lshw -C video" and also "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" then share the resulting link here
[21:01] <sw0rdfish> here i am D
[21:01] <sw0rdfish> :D
[21:01] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: we don't need announcements
[21:01] <sw0rdfish> daftykins sir yes sir!
[21:01] <Finetundra> ioria: did you dl the file?
[21:01] <sw0rdfish> daftykins I see you're not in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <Bashing-om> NomadJim: Yeah, when it is released and you have updated . ( it is in the plans that a install of a new kernel will not require rebooting ) .
[21:01] <liam> Hi all...long time user f Ubuntu, just after getting a Chromebook and installing Ubuntu 14.04LTS. Everything working quite well except...a sound issue. Basically, the earphones/Speakers have to be manually chosen each time, and the sound is muffled for a while at frst until played at full volum, then it comes right. Any directions gladly accepted
[21:02] <sw0rdfish> daftykins can I pm you
[21:02] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: what about
[21:02] <NomadJim> Bashing-om:  thanks
[21:02] <ioria> Finetundra,  yep... porting to the old pc
[21:02] <Finetundra> bekks: http://pastebin.com/2dduKL0V
[21:02] <sw0rdfish> daftykins a friendly conversation
[21:02] <daftykins> if it's support related, no.
[21:02] <Finetundra> bekks: does that provide enough information?
[21:02] <bekks> Finetundra: That seems to work.
[21:03] <Guest9969> daftykins: thanks for letting me know about automatically creating pastebin like that it's pretty cool.  Here's the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375259/
[21:04] <Tynach> Hi, installing a program using Synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, and pretty much any other source works fine... But the new application isn't showing up in Unity's Dash until I log out and back in. How can I fix this? Usually if I install a program from Software Center, it will show up - but not always.
[21:04] <Guest9969> liam: I remember I had to mess around with pulseaudio after installing ubuntu on my chromebook
[21:04] <Tynach> This is a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[21:04] <bob2017> Hey — is it possible to install ubuntu without using the installer?  Just by decompressing an archive over a partition?
...change your nick with /nick (name)
[21:05] <daftykins> Guest9969: yep so fglrx is definitely in use, that could well be why you can't reach any TTYs - assuming you're not connected to a TV as i mentioned which could be printing the text off-screen
[21:05] <daftykins> bob2017: don't think so.
[21:05] <NomadJim> does the 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image work for 64 bit intel cpus?
[21:05] <Lurchy> lol
[21:05] <me2> Lurchy: thanks!
[21:05] <Lurchy> just so you have a unique name
[21:05] <daftykins> NomadJim: yes
[21:05] <Tynach> NomadJim, yes.
[21:05] <NomadJim> thanks
[21:06] <bob2017> let me try differently — can someone help me install ubuntu without using the installer, by expanding an archive over the target partition?
[21:06] <Tynach> NomadJim, AMD64 is just called that because AMD created the x86-64 instruction set extension first.
[21:06] <Tynach> Intel then started using it.
[21:06] <NomadJim> ah ok
[21:07] <ioria> Finetundra,  seems to issue in dd it
[21:08] <Tynach> Does anyone know how to refresh the list of installed applications in Unity's dash, without logging out and back in?
[21:08] <ioria> Finetundra,  seems no issue in dd it
[21:08] <Bashing-om> bob2017: Maybe of interest : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive using GRUB 2 and eliminates the need for burning a CD/DVD.
[21:08] <me2> daftykins: okay I'll try switching the graphics driver and see if that helps.  Can you let me know how you found out that fglrx is being used from my pastebin?
[21:09] <daftykins> me2: read it
[21:09] <SchrodingersScat> bob2017: you may want something like, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[21:10] <Finetundra> ioria: yes, there is no issue with dd. It was an issue that occured during the copying to the img file
[21:11] <bob2017> schrodingersscat - that looks like what i’m looking for but the key is finding an image :p
[21:11] <bob2017> bashing-om - I don’t have GRUB installed, i’m afriad
[21:11] <ioria> Finetundra,  let me try again
[21:12] <CruelDualBoot> I'm booting a live session from USB onto a UEFI comp with Windows 8.1 installed, but the boot menu isn't coming up after I install. Some tutorials have said I need to make a "UEFI bootable USB" to install it right, but if I'm already booting from the USB, doesn't that mean it's UEFI-compatible already?
[21:13] <ioria> Finetundra,  dd : writing to '/devfd0': input/output  error ?
[21:13] <[Mew2]> anyone using fail2ban?
[21:13] <senaps> daftykins: tried but didn't work :( (the screen brightness thing)....
[21:13] <ed__> Disk priority in BIOS?
[21:13] <Finetundra> ioria: are you asking me?
[21:13] <ioria> Finetundra,  yep... what error you got ?
[21:13] <senaps> daftykins: any other solution?
[21:14] <liam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375483/
[21:14] <Tynach> CruelDualBoot, have you made sure that your UEFI settings (like, the BIOS setup thing in your system) is set to try to boot Ubuntu's bootloader first?
[21:14] <ed__> Many failures to boot are resultant from not setting th ebootable disk as the priority in the BIOS.
[21:14] <liam> Problems with sound on Ubuntu Chromebook...earphones would start automatically, sound poor at first. Anyone help?
[21:14] <daftykins> senaps: are you booted in having tried to add that parameter right now? confirm it was taken by showing me "cat /proc/cmdline"
[21:14] <Finetundra> ioria: the only error I encountered was that it wasn't writing to the floppy. This has been resolved
[21:14] <[Mew2]> hey guys can anyone help me with fail2ban?
[21:15] <ioria> Finetundra,  ok.... so solved . good
[21:15] <vince_> CruelDualBoot, http://www.rodsbooks.com/linux-uefi/ this has quite a bit of useful information about installing Linux with on a computer with UEFI
[21:15] <daftykins> [Mew2]: not without an actual question
[21:15] <senaps> daftykins : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-26-generic root=UUID=07b219ef-8714-4449-91d7-33c1930958c2 ro quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor vt.handoff=7
[21:16] <SchrodingersScat> bob2017: you would need to make it
[21:16] <[Mew2]> well im configuring it and i dont know what sopme of these things are like dropbear, ssh-ddos
[21:16] <CruelDualBoot> I've opened setup at the start, and turned off "fast boot" as well as changing a few other settings, trial-and-error style. All I've accomplished is adding a system beep when the comp powers on that is apparently permanent now... :/
[21:16] <[Mew2]> i want to enable all of them
[21:16] <daftykins> senaps: ok, you'll probably have to look up the right parameter for your model system
[21:16] <daftykins> [Mew2]: doesn't sound wise.
[21:16] <daftykins> read the man page for it :)
[21:16] <senaps> daftykins : how to find it?
[21:16] <Finetundra> ioria: of course it helps to let dd finish writing the disk
[21:17] <daftykins> senaps: your favourite search engine...
[21:17] <[Mew2]> ok daftykins thx
[21:17] <ioria> Finetundra,  sure :þ
[21:17] <CruelDualBoot> My main concern is my next step... do I follow the steps to make the UEFI-Bootable USB drive, or do I try messing with the bootloader so it will recognize GRUB?
[21:17] <liam> Sound problem anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375483/
[21:17] <senaps> daftykins, : :) okay thanks...
[21:18] <nicomachus> liam: what log is this?
[21:18] <daftykins> nicomachus: the wrong one
[21:18] <daftykins> :D
[21:18] <nicomachus> looks like xOrg... definitely not related to sound
[21:19] <BenLubar> If I do sudo do-release-upgrade -d, can I go from that to the released LTS in April or am I stuck on development versions?
[21:19] <nicomachus> liam: what's your exact sound problem?
[21:19] <senaps> daftykins : i can't lower my brightness from power options too, that make any difference?
[21:19] <bekks> BenLubar: Depends on which version you are on, currently.
[21:19] <BenLubar> bekks: I'm on 14.04 LTS
[21:19] <daftykins> BenLubar: that takes you to 16.04 because it *is* the current dev version, but it's generally not advisable to use.
[21:19] <Bashing-om> BenLubar: The 'd' argument is for (D)evelopment version .
[21:20] <bekks> BenLubar: Then you can use do-release-upgrade in April an update to 16.04 directly.
[21:20] <BenLubar> yeah, I need some packages that aren't available on trusty-backports
[21:20] <nicomachus> !pm | liam
[21:21] <liam> Ubottu, i did ask in the channell
[21:21] <liam> I will ask again
[21:21] <liam> lol.....fair enough
[21:22] <liam> nico...my apologies, its a long time since i was on this
[21:23] <liam> My sound is muffled and patchy at first until i turn volum up, then it becomes clear. Also, the earphones are not automatically selected
 I have to manually choose between earphones and speakers, and to get them to work properly I need to run at full volume to kick in
[21:23] <nicomachus> liam: what's your ubuntu version?
[21:23] <liam> 14.04LTS the complication is i am running on a Chromebook
[21:25] <nicomachus> liam: ok, so it does work it just sounds bad at low volume?
[21:26] <liam> Yes, that's right...it sounds bad, until you push it to full volume, then it sounds fina and can be varied without problem. Also, it will not auto connect to earphones, it has to be manually chosen
[21:28] <EFrost7th> Drone
[21:28] <EFrost7th> Ikonia
[21:28] <EFrost7th> any responses?
[21:29] <EFrost7th> gh0st
[21:29] <EFrost7th> hello
[21:29] <k1l> EFrost7th: what is the ubuntu issue?
[21:29] <[Mew2]> how do i know if fail2ban is running?
[21:29] <Elixio> very strange question, i post this question because this is a large channel, but i am looking for someone who speaks chinees
[21:30] <nicomachus> liam: I'm looking at this thread: https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton/issues/791
[21:30] <Ben64> Elixio: if its not about ubuntu support, it doesn't belong in this channel
[21:30] <nicomachus> liam: it seems they were able to fix by switching from a beta channel (of crouton, I suppose?) to a stable channel. any chance that could apply for you?
[21:30] <k1l> [Mew2]: there is a process running
[21:30] <Elixio> you are right Ben64
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> !cn | Elixio
[21:30] <EFrost7th> how do i bounce my connections on the whole world and then connect to the target computer?
[21:30] <Elixio> and its not about ubuntu,
[21:30] <liam> Thanks, but I am not running off crouton...I did a direct install of Ubuntu..wiped ChromeOS,
[21:30] <Elixio> thanks
[21:31] <keli> cant find the minimize and all other buttons after iinstalling compiz
[21:31] <[Mew2]> ubuntu@ip-xxx:~$ fail2ban-client start
[21:31] <[Mew2]> ERROR  Directory /var/run/fail2ban exists but not accessible for writing
[21:31] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: so send him to the chinese ubuntu channel to be offtopic there?
[21:31] <[Mew2]> this means its not running?
[21:31] <liam> thanks nico
[21:31] <keli> any help
[21:31] <nicomachus> liam: ok. still looking. it's an odd error.
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  i wasnt aware it wasnt about ubuntu
[21:31] <EFrost7th> any hacker here?
[21:31] <nicomachus> !coc > EFrost7th
[21:32] <k1l> EFrost7th: this is not a malicious hacker channel. so please stop with that topics in here.
[21:32] <Bashing-om> !ask | keli We wont know 'til you say
[21:32] <BPTtone> hello, all. I have a question about apt-get
[21:32] <k1l> [Mew2]: you run it as a service (since its a daemon): sudo service fail2ban start
[21:33] <[Mew2]> ubuntu@ip-:~$ fail2ban-client start
[21:33] <[Mew2]> ERROR  Directory /var/run/fail2ban exists but not accessible for writing
[21:33] <[Mew2]> ubuntu@ip-:~$ fail2ban-client status
[21:33] <[Mew2]> ERROR  Unable to contact server. Is it running?
[21:33] <Ben64> [Mew2]: why do you need fail2ban
[21:33] <EFrost7th> wrong channel then
[21:33] <k1l> [Mew2]: how did you install fail2ban? did you use the ubuntu package from the repo?
[21:33] <[Mew2]> yes
[21:33] <nicomachus> liam: what's the hardware model? perhaps there's someone with the same notebook having a similar issue
[21:33] <EFrost7th> im looking for the typical channel, any help?
[21:33] <k1l> [Mew2]: so start the daemon, not the client
[21:34] <[Mew2]> how?
[21:34] <keli> minimize button is missing after installing compiz
[21:34] <nicomachus> !alis > EFrost7th
[21:34] <k1l> EFrost7th: not on freenode.
[21:34] <k1l> [Mew2]: scroll back up, i already told you
[21:34] <liam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375483/
[21:34]  * [Mew2] looks
[21:34] <nicomachus> liam: your xOrg log isn't gonna tell me anything here...
[21:34] <james99> Can someone help me? How do I run a df-h command to check for disksapce and run it in cron at 13:00 pm everyday and email it to me?
[21:35] <liam> what should I pasrebin?
[21:35] <nicomachus> liam: lshw would help.
[21:35] <[Mew2]>  * Starting authentication failure monitor fail2ban                                                                                [ OK ]
[21:35] <[Mew2]> 1. how can i verify its running, and 2. will this auto start on reboot?
[21:36] <k1l> [Mew2]: see the process list.
[21:36] <[Mew2]> ps?
[21:36] <k1l> yes
[21:36] <climjark> hello all :)
[21:36] <liam> what directory is lshw again?
[21:36] <k1l> and yes, it should autostart now.
[21:36] <k1l> liam: no directory. its a command
[21:36] <[Mew2]> ubuntu@ip-:~$ ps
[21:36] <[Mew2]>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[21:36] <[Mew2]>  4314 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[21:36] <[Mew2]>  5264 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[21:37] <nicomachus> liam: it's a command. :) "sudo lshw | pastebinit"
[21:37] <k1l> [Mew2]: ps ax | grep fail2ban
[21:37] <BPTtone> can anyone tell me what apt-get -f install does?  Tried Google without luck
[21:37] <[Mew2]>  5181 ?        Sl     0:02 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/fail2ban-server -b -s /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock -p /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.pid
[21:37] <[Mew2]>  5269 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto fail2ban
[21:37] <[Mew2]> good?
[21:38] <liam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375902/
[21:38] <k1l> [Mew2]: what you think? does this look like a process is running?
[21:38] <[Mew2]> it looks like its running twice
[21:38] <[Mew2]> 2 pid's?
[21:39] <k1l> no, the second on is the grep process itself. look at the output. its quite self explaining
[21:39] <MarcL> kubuntu has the same update of ubuntu or is less mainteined? I like KDE so what is the ubuntu community advice.. to install ubuntu and kde or kubuntu?
[21:39] <[Mew2]> ok thanks k1l !
[21:39] <[Mew2]> <3
[21:39] <Ben64> MarcL: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde, so do whatever you want
[21:39] <nicomachus> liam: ok, is this a Toshiba or HP?
[21:39] <[Mew2]> reboot brb
[21:40] <k1l> MarcL: the kubuntu community maintaines the kde packages. the rest of the packages are the same like on ubuntu. choose what you like most.
[21:40] <liam> Neither...Dell Chromebook 11 (Candy) Intel Baytrail
[21:40] <BPTtone> can anyone tell me what apt-get -f install does?  Tried Google without luck
[21:41] <xeth> question, would anyone here know how to move ubuntu from a vmware VM running in windows to its own hdd as a full system?
[21:41] <nicomachus> BPTtone: https://askubuntu.com/questions/58378/what-exactly-does-sudo-apt-get-f-install-do
[21:41] <nicomachus> first google result.
[21:41] <k1l> BPTtone: forces an install on all packages that are in cue
[21:42] <BPTtone> thank you....my browser kept crashing and that was recommended
[21:42] <BPTtone> I will try...thanks again
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> xeth  very basic: backup your /home ... use it for the new installation
[21:43] <qu4nt1n> !s star wars the force awakens
[21:43] <k1l> !warez | qu4nt1n
[21:43] <nicomachus> liam: ok, I found someone with similar issues on that model, and they were able to play with the settings in "alsamixer" (equalizer program) to get the sound better.
[21:44] <liam> Thanks dude, I will try Alsa mixer a little more
[21:44] <MarcL> Ben64, k1l  I just was not sure because i did not see anymore any link from the ubuntu website to the derivates so I thought that they don't advice anymore them to the users but just ubuntu and then to add later the favourite environment..
[21:45] <k1l> MarcL: "....and other flavours" that links to the cdimage site with all official versions
[21:47] <[Mew2]> fail2ban doesnt work, i ssh in 5 times with incorrect password and still able to continue guessing
[21:48] <MarcL> k1l, Ben64    thanks
[21:48] <k1l> [Mew2]: then look at the config
[21:49] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban
[21:49] <[Mew2]> what should i be looking for
[21:50] <xeth> MonkeyDust: Thanks, ill give that a shot and see how it works
[21:53] <[Mew2]> what is dropbear?
[21:54] <nicomachus> [Mew2]: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dropbear
[21:54] <[Mew2]> thanks nicomachus
[21:57] <[Mew2]> that doesnt tell me
[21:57] <[Mew2]> im looking for these config options definitions
[21:58] <[Mew2]> dropbear ssh sshddos xinet etc
[21:59] <nicomachus> [Mew2]: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/fail2ban.1.html
[22:03] <sorin-mihai> i'm trying to disable all messages from dmesg showing up on boot. I tried with /etc/sysctl.d/20-quiet-printk.conf set to 0 0 0 0 and loglevel=0 rd.udev.log-priority=0 quiet on the kernel command line. nothing actually works, I get some errors from drm/i915 and some udev related to a usb disk. any idea?
[22:03] <climjark> hello
[22:04] <climjark> can someone send me a link to a pdf of something along the lines of linux documentation and such?
[22:04] <[Mew2]> i dont see the fail2ban config option definitions in there anywhere nicomachus
[22:04] <k1l> !docs | climjark
[22:05] <SpaceAce> How can i check the temperature of my server via command line?
[22:05] <nicomachus> [Mew2]: under "Description". 3rd paragraph.
[22:05] <k1l> SpaceAce: lm_sensors is the thing to use
[22:05] <nicomachus> SpaceAce: lm-sensors
[22:05] <daftykins> SpaceAce: install lm-sensors and run 'sensors' - but it needs to be a real bare-metal OS
[22:05] <SpaceAce> thanks guys
[22:05] <climjark> ahh thanks.ill check that out! im a computer science enthusiast and want to learn as much as i can haha
[22:06] <[Mew2]> nicomachus
[22:06] <[Mew2]> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/jail.conf.5.html
[22:06] <[Mew2]> did U read it?
[22:06] <[Mew2]> cuz it aint got what im asking
[22:06] <nicomachus> no [Mew2] I didn't, that's your job... I don't need to learn about fail2ban
[22:06] <[Mew2]> yea
[22:07] <[Mew2]> it doesnt have what im asking
[22:07] <k1l> [Mew2]: there is still the official fail2ban docs: http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[22:07] <[Mew2]> i looked there also, nothing
[22:07] <nicomachus> I'm sure there's something. look again.
[22:07] <MiningMarsh> SpaceAce: If you want to script something using temperature, `find /sys | grep temp`, most newer systems I see use coretemp at /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp%i_input
[22:08] <[Mew2]> why dont you verify yyour statements before making them
[22:08] <MiningMarsh> SpaceAce: Can be a bit faster than trying to parse the output of `sensors`
[22:08] <SpaceAce> thanks MiningMarsh. running sensors has given me enough info, though :)
[22:08] <nicomachus> [Mew2]: because this is a troubleshooting and support forum, not a teaching one.
[22:08] <SpaceAce> I just wanted to see if my NAS was overheating after i cleaned the CPU fan
[22:09] <[Mew2]> nicomachus u giving me info that i already read
[22:09] <[Mew2]> and its not helpful
[22:09] <k1l> [Mew2]: why do you want us to do your job and reading about it? we are providing help to help yourself.
[22:09] <nicomachus> well sorry, I'll just stop then.
[22:09] <[Mew2]> nicomachus i appriciate you trying tho
[22:13] <[Mew2]> anyone else use fail2ban?
[22:13] <bekks> A lot of people do.
[22:13] <den-3local-den> hi. i am try to figure out bash and write some simply script`s. one of them install in vagrant zsh. all installed done but have question about post install.  by step chsh -s /bin/zsh; shell ask me a password. how can use chsh -s /bin/zsh without input password?
[22:13] <stacks88> if i want /home/file.sh to be launched upon system startup, do i add it to /etc/rc.local ? if so, ive got a freshly installed 14.04 system, do i add /home/file.sh BEFORE the exit 0 or after ?
[22:14] <daftykins> den-3local-den: ask in #bash
[22:14] <daftykins> den-3local-den: ah nm i should've finished reading before pointing ;)
[22:14] <Ben64> stacks88: depends what that script is and what it does
[22:14] <k1l> [Mew2]: did you actually read the config files? they got extended explanaition itself. even the ubuntu wiki help page had lots of info. so what is your specific issue now?
[22:14] <stacks88> launches a few processes
[22:14] <den-3local-den> daftykins, ))
[22:14] <Ben64> stacks88: cool, very descriptive
[22:15] <jaqent> Hi, I'm trying to run mosix/vcl and I'm getting this error -> /etc/init.d/vcl: 107: /etc/init.d/vcl: checkproc: not found <-- could someone point me in the right direction?
[22:15] <[Mew2]> i cant find a single explanation of jail.conf options
[22:15] <k1l> stacks88: rc.local will run on every boot and will run as sudo. so witht hat less info, no dont run "some stuff" as root on every boot.
[22:15] <k1l> [Mew2]: what options?
[22:16] <k1l> [Mew2]: its self explaining.
[22:16] <stacks88> k1l but should things be placed before the exit 0 ? i am assuming so
[22:16] <Ben64> stacks88: you're likely doing it very wrong
[22:17] <k1l> [Mew2]: where is your specific issue? did you read the header of the file? what dont you understand?
[22:17] <senaps> i have done the instructions in here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight/
[22:17] <jaqent> I'm running on Ubuntu 14.04 btw
[22:18] <stacks88> in /home/test.sh ive got ( while true ; do uptime >> /home/sites/$(hostname)/public_html/uptime.txt ; sleep 25 ; done ) & .. so my goal is to run this upon the system boot. so ive already got /home/test.sh in /etc/rc.local before the 'exit 0' line.. and it works fine.. but was wondering if i was doing it wrong.. though there is no issue, its working fine
[22:18] <senaps> Please comment on if the brightness changes.     so the brighness changes but how and where should i make a comment?
[22:18] <stacks88> Ben64: so there you have it, im likely doing it wrong, whats the right way? if thatst what is inside the .sh file
[22:19] <Ben64> stacks88: what are you trying to run
[22:19] <stacks88> i just told you.. /home/test.sh i want to be ran upon system startup.. and inside test.sh is 1 line: ( while true ; do uptime >> /home/sites/$(hostname)/public_html/uptime.txt ; sleep 25 ; done ) &
[22:19] <daftykins> senaps: write up some info on http://paste.ubuntu.com to tell us what's working maybe
[22:19] <stacks88> ive already got /home/test.sh in /etc/rc.local before the 'exit 0' line.. and it works fine.. but you say im doing it wrong, so what is the right approach ? to launch /home/test.sh upon system startup
[22:20] <okay19> I have some questions about fixing bugs. Is this the right place to ask them?
[22:20] <Ben64> stacks88: ooh yeah don't put that there, put it in cron
[22:20] <daftykins> okay19: as in... what?
[22:20] <stacks88> what is the downside to putting it in rc.local ?
[22:20] <stacks88> or why not rather*, just trying to understand the mistake
[22:20] <Ben64> stacks88: you're running some weird crap as root every 25 seconds
[22:21] <okay19> daftykins: Once the change has been made on a local branch, should I attach a patch to the bug tracker or submit a merge proposal to the original branch?
[22:22] <daftykins> !bug
[22:22] <daftykins> hmm no talk of a channel specifically
[22:23] <k1l> okay19: honestly i would ask the maintainer of that package how its best practice
[22:24] <senaps> daftykins : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376636/
[22:25] <okay19> I read the bug fixing page from the packaging guide, but it gives instructions for both.
[22:25] <[Mew2]> [ssh][dropbear][pam-generic][pam-generic][xinetd-fail][ssh-ddos][ssh-route]
[22:25] <[Mew2]> this is my issue
[22:25] <[Mew2]> an explanation fo what these do
[22:25] <[Mew2]> no where to be found
[22:25] <daftykins> [Mew2]: no that's just spam from where i'm sitting.
[22:25] <Ben64> ssh is for ssh, dropbear is for dropbear.....
[22:26] <Ben64> [Mew2]: what are you actually trying to accomplish
[22:26] <[Mew2]> Ben64 please scroll up and read
[22:26] <Ben64> no, what are you actually trying to accomplish
[22:26] <Ben64> different from what you're trying to do right now
[22:26] <[Mew2]> read or dont respond
[22:26] <Ben64> what is your end goal
[22:26] <[Mew2]> doesnt matter
[22:26] <Ben64> it does
[22:26] <[Mew2]> this is what im askin
[22:26] <bekks> [Mew2]: thats the fast.forward way to not get help. ;)
[22:27] <[Mew2]> [ssh][dropbear][pam-generic][pam-generic][xinetd-fail][ssh-ddos][ssh-route]
[22:27] <daftykins> [Mew2]: You are the one asking for help, it is YOUR job to work to get answers. Note that you're going to get ignored by all the volunteers for presenting an utterly terrible attitude very shortly.
[22:27] <k1l> [Mew2]: its the names of the services
[22:27] <bekks> [Mew2]: those are random words, enclosed in brackets. Whats your question?
[22:27] <[Mew2]> how hard is it to understand
[22:27] <Ben64> you keep asking questions here, since yesterday i've seen you repeating very easily googable questions, and getting all uppity when people try to have you explain
[22:27] <[Mew2]> im tryign to get an explanation fo these item in the config file
[22:27] <[Mew2]> [ssh][dropbear][pam-generic][pam-generic][xinetd-fail][ssh-ddos][ssh-route]
[22:27] <daftykins> [Mew2]: i ask myself the same of how you can't work out how to use the program from its' documentation.
[22:27] <Ben64> so explain yourself
[22:27] <k1l> [Mew2]: its like asking us "what is ford, bmw, mercedes?"  its kind of obvious
[22:28] <[Mew2]> right so i enabled them
[22:28] <Ben64> [Mew2]: what are you trying to accomplish with all of your questions here over the past day or so
[22:28] <[Mew2]> and they dont work
[22:28] <amanojaku> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 14.04, LTS. I cannot seem to be able to run ANY third party apps including Lightworks, Aftershot Pro, and Shotcut. I get segfault errors, core dumps, and other similar issues.
[22:28] <k1l> [Mew2]: to be 100% precise. its the name of the filters.
[22:29] <[Mew2]> so glad i came here
[22:29] <daftykins> amanojaku: where are those installed from? ubuntu repos, or otherwise?
[22:29] <amanojaku> Lots of 'Ubuntu internal errors' as well.
[22:29] <Ben64> [Mew2]: it seems to me that you're looking at some guide that says "you should use fail2ban" and so you're trying to do that without having a clue what it does or why you need it
[22:29] <daftykins> [Mew2]: drop the attitude immediately.
[22:29] <k1l> [Mew2]: the exact service that will be listened to is named some few lines below
[22:29] <daftykins> amanojaku: hmm is it possible your system has a hardware issue?
[22:30] <amanojaku> daftykins, These are third party applications that claim theor programs rung on Linux, including Ubuntu
[22:30] <daftykins> amanojaku: right but how are they *installed* ? :)
[22:30] <amanojaku> daftykins, I have an AMD CPU, quadcore with 16 gigs of ram and a radeon graphics card
[22:30] <bob3247> can someone on ubuntu check something for me?
[22:30] <senaps> daftykins : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376636/  this is the file you wanted?
[22:31] <nicomachus> !ask | bob3247
[22:31] <amanojaku> daftykins, There is a .deb package that is installed through the ubuntu software centre or a ppa
[22:31] <amanojaku> daftykins, Where I do a sudo-apt-get update
[22:31] <bob3247> the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d what should be the file owner/group and chmod?
[22:31] <amanojaku> daftykins, But it is possible there could be hardware issues
[22:32] <Ben64> bob3247: root, don't mess with them
[22:32] <amanojaku> daftykins, Do you suggest a re-install, perhaps?
[22:32] <nicomachus> amanojaku: those are all video editors, right? what's the GPU chipset?
[22:32] <amanojaku> nicomachus, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240]
[22:32] <amanojaku> 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cape Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7700/7800 Series]
[22:33] <amanojaku> nicomachus, A graphics card and an APU
[22:33] <bob3247> Ben64, sorry that dont answer my question
[22:33] <daftykins> amanojaku: could be that those programs don't enjoy a lack of propietary graphics driver if one hasn't been added yet
[22:33] <bob3247> the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d what should be the file owner/group and chmod?
[22:33] <Ben64> bob3247: did  you do something to them already?
[22:34] <bob3247> can someone check their system?
[22:34] <Ben64> bob3247: why won't you answer this simple question
[22:34] <daftykins> amanojaku: but the other errors don't sound too good, i'd memtest the install or have a look at whether "dmesg | tail" is showing anything bad (don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com )
[22:34] <k1l> bob3247: root. and 644
[22:34] <daftykins> senaps: yep one moment reading
[22:34] <amanojaku> daftykins, I did install the ATI radeon graphics driver, updated version. (There are two choices, radeon and radeon update, the former just blanks out on my monitors)
[22:34] <daftykins> AMD, not ATI.
[22:34] <bob3247> thanks kll
[22:35] <amanojaku> daftykins, AMD/ATI are the same company, no?
[22:35] <daftykins> they haven't been called ATI for a large number of years ;)
[22:35] <rww> AMD bought ATI a few years ago.
[22:35] <k1l> bob3247: fiddeling there needs root/sudo permissions. you should be more aware using that superpower in future.
[22:35] <HoloPed> hey all, I enabled remote desktop on my ubutnu 14.04 and I can't connect. "No supported authentication methods"
[22:35] <HoloPed> what do I do now ?
[22:35] <daftykins> senaps: as i suggested earlier, try adding: video.use_native_backlight=1
[22:35] <Ben64> HoloPed: get a better vnc client
[22:36] <bob3247> who says i fiddled with them kll
[22:36] <HoloPed> Ben64, tried with TightVNC and with UltraVNC
[22:36] <HoloPed> same
[22:36] <HoloPed> same results
[22:36] <amanojaku> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376800/
[22:37] <k1l> bob3247: else you would not have to worry about them
[22:37] <daftykins> amanojaku: sounds like VLC has also had issues running?
[22:37] <Ben64> HoloPed: different does not equal better, the default vnc server in ubuntu uses encryption that some clients don't support
[22:37] <amanojaku> daftykins, On occassion, yes. I just reboot when that happens
[22:37] <HoloPed> Ben64, can you recommend a client that does support it ?
[22:37] <Ben64> HoloPed: for windows, right
[22:37] <HoloPed> yes
[22:37] <daftykins> amanojaku: definitely not good. which kernel? "uname -r" (it's one line so you can paste here)
[22:38] <amanojaku> 3.19.0-42
[22:38] <nicomachus> amanojaku: it sounds like you're getting a lot of the errors I got when I was running on bad RAM.
[22:38] <bob3247> kll, i just needed to do a sanity check to make sure they were correct, which they were, thx for checking for me
[22:38] <k1l> bob3247: ok
[22:39] <amanojaku> daftykins, Perhaps a later version of Ubuntu is called for instead of LTS?
[22:39] <nicomachus> amanojaku: 3.19.0-42 isn't LTS. what's the output of "lsb_release -a"?
[22:39] <daftykins> amanojaku: that or a newer graphics driver, something is definitely sick - i'm assuming a memtest is fine also
[22:39] <nicomachus> ah .3 IS the 3.19. oops.
[22:40] <Ben64> HoloPed: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ssvnc.html
[22:40] <amanojaku> daftykins, Yes, the memtest is fine
[22:41] <senaps> daftykins : i add this like after that splash thing right?
[22:41] <daftykins> senaps: yep
[22:41] <KNNNI> When I make a startup disk
[22:41] <KNNNI> does it delete everything on the USB stick?
[22:41] <amanojaku> daftykins, You know, it could also just be a matter of filing aseries of bug reports with third party providers and Ubuntu forums
[22:41] <daftykins> amanojaku: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep fglr | pastebinit"
[22:41] <KNNNI> Or can I leave my files there and still make it work as a bootable USB?
[22:42] <HoloPed> Ben64, that worked. thanks.
[22:42] <gaby_> Hi everyone :) I'm currently facing some problem with the installation of a PPA, and I wanted to know if someone could help me with it (I don't think it's a big deal, I'm just told that the package couldn't be found)
[22:42] <daftykins> amanojaku: i'm focussing on what can be done in the here and now rather than the long-game really ;)
[22:42] <nicomachus> gaby_: did you run "sudo apt-get update" after isntalling the ppa?
[22:42] <Ben64> HoloPed: :D
[22:42] <amanojaku> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376900/
[22:42] <Dylan____> Is LIbreoffice 4 the latest version for ubuntu 14.04 or can it be updated to 5 through a ppa?
[22:42] <gaby_> nicomachus: yes I did :)
[22:42] <KNNNI> Why do so few Ubuntu users use GNOME?
[22:43] <amanojaku> nicomachus, Indeed, I did. I am pretty vigilant about updates
[22:43] <tsapii> it appears that chkdsk gets stuck at 10% when fuxing the disk
[22:43] <nicomachus> gaby_: what's the ppa, and what version of ubuntu are you on?
[22:43] <daftykins> amanojaku: and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[22:43] <tsapii> the drive may be more faulty than i anticipated..
[22:43] <Ben64> Dylan____: there might be a ppa, but ppas aren't supported here, you're on your own with that
[22:43] <k1l> KNNNI: its some sort of taste. and the typical gnome distribution is fedora.
[22:43] <Dylan____> Hmm ok thanks ben
[22:44] <amanojaku> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376922/
[22:44] <tsapii> the laptop wad once spilt drink on and recently came back to life
[22:44] <tsapii> so this doesn't really surprise me
[22:44] <gaby_> @nicomachus: the ppa is the following: ppa:iacobs/au6601 ; I'm currently on the 15.04
[22:44] <daftykins> tsapii: this the win8 factory install still? can you run crystaldiskinfo on it (Windows) or run some commands from an ubuntu live session?
[22:45] <nicomachus> gaby_: it doesn't appear that ppa has a version for 15.10
[22:45] <tsapii> the laptop saw use for 3 weeks before the incident
[22:46] <tsapii> i believe that windows was installed on it once only
[22:46] <daftykins> amanojaku: yep looks like many graphical issues are being caused by a bad driver
[22:46] <tsapii> i can mount the drive from a live sessio
[22:46] <tsapii> session*
[22:46] <gaby_> @nicomachus: so ut explains that I can't install it? It's a patch made to fix a bug with a card reader (card not detected)
[22:46] <amanojaku> daftykins, Maybe I need to try the beta graphics drivers...
[22:47] <amanojaku> daftykins, Thank you very much for isolating the issue
[22:47] <nicomachus> gaby_: no, you can't install that. sorry.
[22:47] <daftykins> amanojaku: np, good luck
[22:47] <gaby_> @nicomachus: aargh, ok thank you very much, I'll keep looking for other solutions then
[22:48] <alexxx> hello
[22:48] <tsapii> daftykins: what is this crystadiskinfo?
[22:48] <tsapii> crystaldiskinfo*
[22:49] <nicomachus> gaby_: you can add your name to this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1270676
[22:49] <daftykins> tsapii: a Windows SMART disk info utility
[22:50] <senaps> daftykins : wow, man it did work.... thank you...  just edit the grub file and make changes in it to make it perminant right?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: Dual AMD cards ??/ what does ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' reveal ?
[22:51] <daftykins> senaps: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" ; place it at the right variable and then "sudo update-grub" yep
[22:51] <gaby_> nicomachus: thanks, I was on this page. I'm going to add my name, but I'm quite hopeless ahah, this issue hasn't been solved for quite a while now ^^
[22:51] <nicomachus> gaby_: cross your fingers for a fix in 16.04 then. :)
[22:52] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14377039/
[22:52] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, They are compatible, it is called 'crossfire'
[22:53] <gaby_> nicomachus: I'll do that, thank you anyway :)
[22:53] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, Merging an APU with the graphics card
[22:53] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: K; look'n .
[22:53] <tsapii> i'll give it a spin when i have a chance to, and will report back
[22:55] <daftykins> tsapii: a couple of commands from the ubuntu live session would be easier to get an idea if the disk is damaged
[22:56] <KNNNI> Is Fedora preferred for GNOME than Ubuntu GNOME?
[22:56] <tsapii> what kind of commands?
[22:56] <daftykins> KNNNI: ash in #gnome
[22:57] <daftykins> tsapii: depends, do you have a live session booted on that system right now?
[22:57] <tsapii> KNNNI: ehy are you asking in here about it?
[22:57] <tsapii> daftykins: not at the moment. it is shut down
[22:57] <KNNNI> tsapii: Because I'm thinking of switching to Ubuntu GNOME
[22:57] <daftykins> user is struggling with channels for appropriate support ;)
[22:57] <KNNNI> tsapii: But now I found out that Fedora is the Gnome distro most love best.
[22:58] <daftykins> that would make #ubuntu an unwise channel to discuss it, then
[22:58] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: After the driver was installed, did you ' aticonfig --adapter=all --initial -f ' ?
[22:58] <tsapii> well i'd suppose that people in here would have some bias as to what they would find their most suitable os to be
[22:59] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, I used 'settings' and 'additional drivers'
[22:59] <daftykins> tsapii: yeah hence trying to direct to the right channels to ask
[22:59] <tsapii> right
[23:00] <tsapii> anyway i can boot to both windows and the live session when i get to the laptop again
[23:00] <lyzya> i use lubuntu 15.10 ... i installed "browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash" and "pepperflashplugin-nonfree" ... is pepperflash stuck to a <IP_ADDRESS> version
[23:00] <daftykins> tsapii: when'll that be?
[23:01] <tsapii> i remain curious as to what the commands are
[23:01] <daftykins> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[23:01] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: Let's verify that the FGLRX drivr is loaded . what returns ' sudo lshw -C display ' ? Then we run the aticonfig command IF the driver is loaded .
[23:01] <tsapii> i'll be at my laptop shortly, say in 15 minutes
[23:02] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14377182/
[23:02] <daftykins> tsapii: well curiosity is nice but there's not much point until you're in front of it :)
[23:02] <tsapii> i suppose so
[23:04] <Malgorath> do you guys think a dual core amd at 1.8Ghz 3G Ram and a 60G SSD is good enough to run ubuntu 15.10?
[23:04] <daftykins> pretty pitiful specs, depends what the use-case is.
[23:05] <Malgorath> basically gonna be a dev box for web apps
[23:05] <daftykins> so server only install, that you'll deal with remotely from elsewhere...?
[23:05] <Malgorath> yes
[23:05] <rww> will be fine
[23:06] <daftykins> as long as it's on lovely wired LAN ;)
[23:07] <Malgorath> can't run a server from wifi?
[23:07] <k1l> KNNNI: gnome and fedora are made by redhat.  but nevertheless, the gnome team does a great job on the ubuntu gnome flavour.
[23:07] <daftykins> Malgorath: it's idiotic
[23:07] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: That syas no driver is loaded .. How have you tried to install the proprietary driver ? does ' /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh ' apply ?
[23:07] <Guest31374> Que onda!
[23:08] <KNNNI> kll: The actual GNOME team is behind GNOME for Ubuntu?
[23:08] <lyzya> newest pepperflash is <IP_ADDRESS>7 and mine is <IP_ADDRESS> and won't update to a newest by command ... does anyone know why
[23:08] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, I used the GUI graphical drivers installer
[23:08] <KNNNI> kll: In your opinion does Ubuntu GNOME run slower than Ubuntu MATE?
[23:09] <Malgorath> daftykins, do you have some logic or data to back that up? or is that just a personal opinoin?
[23:09] <ssfdre38> i am trying to set up a vhost on apache but im getting an error 403 and i did set it up right to read the vhost to send to the right docroot
[23:11] <daftykins> ssfdre38: you moved the default config and edited it to reflect the new vhost yes? or were there already multiple on this server?
[23:11] <k1l> KNNNI: dont know about actual comparisons in speed of gnome-shell and mate.
[23:11] <daftykins> ssfdre38: the facts speak for themselves - since it doesn't work, you can't have done it right ;)
[23:12] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, But you make an interesting observation.
[23:12] <KNNNI> "Even to this day people keep complaining about GNOME 3, how the interface doesn’t make sense, how the developers don’t listen, and how the design is brain-dead."
[23:12] <Guest31374> Drone!
[23:12] <KNNNI> Appears GNOME 3 should be relegated to a niche segment. Most dislike it.
[23:12] <daftykins> !es | Guest31374
[23:12] <ssfdre38> daftykins, i made a copy of 000-default.conf and changed all the variables to match what im trying to do and it is no longer reading the default doc root but it is just showing a 403 error code
[23:13] <amanojaku> Iam gonna reboot and see what happens
[23:13] <k1l> KNNNI: its the same with unity. you only hear the loudest voices complaining.
[23:13] <daftykins> ssfdre38: you then enabled the site by name? so it's present in both sites-available and sites-enabled?
[23:13] <Guest31374> Contesta
[23:13] <ssfdre38> yes
[23:13] <daftykins> ssfdre38: restart apache2 and see if it errors out
[23:13] <KNNNI> Look at this:
[23:14] <ssfdre38> already did several times
[23:14] <KNNNI> "Happy GNOME 3 user here. I would go so far as to say I don’t think I could go back to GNOME 2 at this point, and if GNOME 3 were to change rather drastically I’d probably look for something with at least some similar to GNOME 3 (although unfortunately Unity is the only thing I’m aware of and it’s still not even close)."
[23:14] <daftykins> ssfdre38: wouldn't be surprised if the apache user hasn't got the correct permissions on the path you set it to
[23:14] <daftykins> KNNNI: you're going way too off topic now, this is support not desktop religion
[23:14] <k1l> KNNNI: do you have an actual ubuntu issue? else i would ask you to switch to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat about gnome.
[23:14] <ssfdre38> so i need to change the chown to www
[23:15] <mesho> الله يسعدك ي اسامه ..
[23:15] <mesho> اقصد انها موجوده على يسار البرنامج ..
[23:15] <daftykins> ssfdre38: i'd rather see some evidence of what i'm asking rather than you just start throwing permission changes around :)
[23:15] <daftykins> mesho: english only channel.
[23:15] <d21anthony> Anyone have a UI based solution/package for altering suspend behavior? Resuming using keyboard for example
[23:16] <arkangel> ?
[23:19] <lmw> hi
[23:19] <daftykins> hello
[23:19] <d21anthony> Arkangel: was that ? for me
[23:22] <ssfdre38> daftykins, http://ssfdre38.info/img/screenshot.1.jpg http://ssfdre38.info/img/screenshot.2.jpg http://ssfdre38.info/img/screenshot.3.jpg
[23:25] <liam> Can anyone help with a sound problem on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS running on a Dell Chromebook 11?
[23:26] <daftykins> ssfdre38: drop the www. ; add yourself to the group 'www-data' then own the docroot as www-data:www-data and restart apache
[23:26] <daftykins> ssfdre38: and for the love of Tux, use http://paste.ubuntu.com or pipe commands into "pastebinit" in future, full desktop screenshots of text are horrific
[23:31] <tsapii> daftykins: i'm back. it appears that windows cannot boot anymore because it goes back into chkdsk.exe which got stuck at 10% forever
[23:31] <daftykins> live session it is then
[23:31] <tsapii> so now i've booted to the live session, yes
[23:34] <notarobot039> hi
[23:34] <daftykins> lo
[23:34] <tsapii> daftykins: so what would these commands be, then?
[23:35] <daftykins> sudo apt update && sudo apt install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[23:35] <notarobot039> question: can someone please direct me to a hardware channel or one that can answer a question regarding about why a battery would discharge on a portable personal computer while it is turned off.
[23:35] <tsapii> let's see
[23:35] <Ben64> notarobot039: ##hardware
[23:36] <daftykins> notarobot039: that's a sign the cells are old and failed, time to buy a new one.
[23:36] <notarobot039> darius93: reply: the computer is new.
[23:37] <zykotick9> nottrobin: ##hardware is a channel on freenode
[23:37] <tsapii> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14377758/
[23:37] <tsapii> zykotick9: he left already
[23:38] <zykotick9> tsapii: doh.  i have all the join/part stuff hidden...  thanks.
[23:39] <daftykins> tsapii: looks like someone's been dropping that thing :P no issues though, purely file system related by the sounds of it.
[23:40] <tsapii> well it has been spilt drink on. i suppose that's equivalent
[23:40]  * zykotick9 notes he is also an ass, and has guest* set to ignore...  nick is your friend.
[23:41] <tsapii> anyway, if chkdsk.exe cannot complete, then the partition must be corrected by something else
[23:42] <daftykins> tsapii: the whole laptop? yeah i'd put the disk in another system and chkdsk it there ; no other program is going to help
[23:42] <tsapii> hmm i came to this while googling: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows
[23:42] <tsapii> the case seems mostly the same
[23:43] <OerHeks> i would use the ultimateboot-cd *if* i had no windows
[23:43] <tsapii> well with the exception that the smart diagnostics say the disk is fine
[23:43] <daftykins> tsapii: boot Windows install media, shift+F10 to run a command prompt, then chkdsk it from there... however this topic will need to be moved to ##windows since it's not appropriate here
[23:43] <OerHeks> opensource, legal, and enough bios mbr file tools to choose from
[23:44] <tsapii> OerHeks: i'll keep that in mind
[23:44] <tsapii> daftykins: i don't have any windows install media at hand currently. i'll give this ntfsfix a try in case something spectacular happens
[23:44] <daftykins> no, that's a really BAD idea
[23:45] <tsapii> why so?
[23:45] <daftykins> tsapii: just download one, it's freely available to grab a boot CD.
[23:45] <tsapii> well then. i'm going to need something to install it to
[23:45] <daftykins> because those utils may not have been worked on recently enough to factor in windows 8 and 10's changes to how things work
[23:45] <tsapii> hmm.
[23:45] <daftykins> no as i said above you can chkdsk it solely from the preinstallation environment
[23:46] <OerHeks> oh, nice, better way
[23:46] <tsapii> what does the preinstallation environment mean here?
[23:47] <daftykins> the thing you're looking at when you boot win7, 8 or 10 install media
[23:47] <daftykins> as i say cmd can be run from inside it
[23:48] <lmw> ctrl+f10
[23:48] <daftykins> shift i think
[23:48] <lmw> yes, correct
[23:48] <lmw> thanks
[23:48] <tsapii> but i do not have the install media at hand
[23:48] <multimedia> Hey. Problem statement: I have 4GB of RAM, but 32-bit Ubuntu 14.04 only detects 3GB. PEA is supposed to be enabled by default, and I've even added some extras to FORCE it...  http://pastebin.com/wB3r6vrx
[23:48] <daftykins> tsapii: yeah so get it, like i said it's freely obtainable...
[23:48] <tsapii> ah, alright
[23:48] <lmw> multimedia: try #ubuntu
[23:49] <tsapii> sorry, i misunderstood
[23:49] <shumno> Hi
[23:49] <multimedia> lmw: I am in ubuntu :)
[23:49] <akik> tsapii: you can enable the windows boot menu with bcdedit
[23:49] <lmw> multimedia: oops, didn't seen, thanks, haha
[23:49] <multimedia> lmw: np )
[23:49] <akik> tsapii: "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} DisplayBootMenu true"
[23:49] <shumno> Hello guys
[23:49] <tsapii> hm
[23:50] <k1l> multimedia: is the video card using some ram?
[23:50] <shumno> Welcome auronandace2
[23:50] <shumno> welcome cloner93
[23:50] <cloner93> hi
[23:50] <daftykins> akik: that's not even the situation - it's Windows only right now
[23:50] <daftykins> also bcdedit seems to have claimed many folks installations :P
[23:51] <akik> daftykins: tsapii by enabling the boot menu you gain access to the same preinstallation environment without having to use the install dvd
[23:51] <k1l> multimedia: and since kernel 3.16 there is no -pae kernel package, because all kernel have pae then. you cant boot a non-pae system anymore.
[23:51] <multimedia> k1l: good thought, but 1G OF RAM? It has like a 1MB or 8MB option IIRC, -- anyway I'm using standalone graphics anyway
[23:51] <daftykins> akik: but the fs is creamed, so it's not worth risking
[23:52] <OerHeks> multimedia, if your motherboard supports up to 4 gb, your missing space is occupied by your videocardmem/controllercache/processorcache.
[23:52] <multimedia> k1l: how could I confirm this via OS?
[23:52] <daftykins> multimedia: why did you install 32-bit? that makes no sense on such a system in 2016.
[23:53] <akik> tsapii: you said that you're able to boot windows?
[23:53] <multimedia> daftykins: it's not a 64-bit processor:  model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
[23:53] <multimedia> address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
[23:53] <daftykins> no, akik
[23:54] <tsapii> akik: no, windows goes into chkdsk which appears to hang forever
[23:54] <daftykins> Pentium 4 ugh :( i'd have buried that years ago
[23:56] <OpenSorce> Guys I'm trying to get aircrack (or the equivalent) working on a live usb so I can connect at work (yes I have permission they just don't know the ssid) is it no longer in the repositories?
[23:57] <tsapii> it seems that i can edit the windows registry to disable the pending chkdsk
[23:57] <k1l> !info aircrack-ng
[23:57] <tsapii> though i'm not sure if it's anyhow sensible to boot a system that chkdsk was interrupted on
[23:57] <multimedia> k1l: lspci confirms ,VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450, Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[23:57] <daftykins> tsapii: that's obviously not a solution
[23:57] <tsapii> probably not
[23:58] <multimedia> afaik, that card uses dedicated memory; even if not, 256M doesn't account for 1GB
[23:58] <tsapii> i need to get the installation media somewhere
[23:58] <daftykins> tsapii: take this to ##windows now - it's clearly not ubuntu support
[23:58] <tsapii> alright. sorry for going off-topic