[02:07] <fwiffo> Rake`, refreshed your package list?
[02:07] <Rake`> Yep.
[02:07] <Rake`> I see a big white nothing.
[02:08] <fwiffo> Rake`, and it refreshes your repositories properly?
[02:08] <William_Cain> I have installed the proper drivers, and it worked well at first, but suddenly things went slow again
[02:08] <Rake`> I believe so, yes
[02:08] <William_Cain> .*
[02:08] <fwiffo> Rake`, what happens when refreshing?
[02:09] <Rake`> Downloads / compares lists or whatever it does, window closes, statusbar says "Building dependancy tree" then it goes back to how it was
[02:11] <flosch> hi
[02:11] <fwiffo> Rake`, are you sure you have your repositories set up properly?
[02:12] <Rake`> It updates from them without error
[02:13] <Rake`> I can do a search and it'll say for instance, "17 packages listed" ... so I think the list of packages is fine. it just doesnt display them for some odd reason.
[02:13] <fwiffo> ok, that seems odd yes
[02:14] <Rake`> keep in mind im a linux idiot and i probably broke something.
[02:14] <fwiffo> Rake`, perhaps some filter is enabled
[02:14] <Rake`> Last time it worked i was trying to install some packages relating to samba/smb.
[02:15] <Rake`> Hmm ..
[02:16] <fwiffo> Rake`, how about if you choose Status + Not Installed?
[02:17] <Rake`> im not sure how to sue these filters, though i havnt played with them before
[02:18] <Rake`> should i just delete the filters, or?
[02:19] <BenZor> anyone here know of some software for windows than can read ext3?
[02:20] <peca> BenZor: uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[02:20] <BenZor> ta
[02:21] <peca> or uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[02:21] <fwiffo> Rake`, no no, just press the Status button in the bottom left
[02:21] <fwiffo> Rake`, and then choose Not Installed in the left part of the window
[02:23] <Linforcer> Hey, a friend of mine just installed ubuntu, and he was wondering how he could get his cheap-O brand tablet to work. Anyone have any cleus? All I can find about is wacom.:(
[02:24] <Rake`> fwiffo - stil nothing
[02:24] <ZellSF> Can anyone help me? I need to auto mount my USB harddisk on startup...
[02:24] <BenZor> Rake`- omg irc.!
[02:24] <DaRyN> my system keeps hanging on Starting hotplug subsystem, any ideas?
[02:24] <Rake`> BenZor - omg irc.!
[02:24] <fwiffo> Rake`, ok, then I have no idea what it might be
[02:25] <ZellSF> ...?
[02:25] <Rake`> like i said, synaptic says how many packages are being displayed according to the filters and such .... just doesnt show the list. nor is there any of the top boxes which say 'Package name' etc
[02:26] <fwiffo> Rake`, ok :/
[02:26] <Rake`> hmm, thanks anyway
[02:26] <mpnw> http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/
[02:27] <mpnw> is my problem
[02:27] <mpnw> can anyone help?
[02:27] <aquarius> I have a box running a not-very-frequently-updated Debian testing; it has mostly not been updated since about June 2004, but a few packages have been installed since then. Can I upgrade it to warty with the Ubuntu CD?
[02:28] <ZellSF> I have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(
[02:28] <ZellSF> Is there a way to fix that?
[02:30] <mpnw> http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/
[02:30] <mpnw> anyone?
[02:31] <Tarumino> *sigh* Ok, I've got the latest wxPython, but it's in the python2.4 site-packages, and python2.3 is the default at the moment
[02:31] <mpnw> printer problem, need assistance:  http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/
[02:31] <mpnw> please:)
[02:32] <ZellSF> mpnw: is Windows sharing the printer?
[02:32] <Tarumino> How do I change what happens when I type "python" at the command prompt
[02:32] <mpnw> yes
[02:32] <ZellSF> hmm, and the "guest" user of Windows is enabled?
[02:32] <Tarumino> (from loading python2.3 to loading python2.4: both are installed)
[02:32] <ZellSF> (or might as well ask, can you connect to your printer from another Windows computer?)
[02:32] <mpnw> yes
[02:32] <mpnw> that works fine
[02:33] <mpnw> im not sure about "guest" tho
[02:33] <scizzo> mpnw: I thought you where trying to share it from samba?
[02:33] <mpnw> i have "everyone"
[02:33] <ZellSF> And you've installed all the Samba client stuff...?
[02:33] <mpnw> no... using samba to access it
[02:33] <mpnw> yes
[02:33] <mpnw> file sharing works fine
[02:33] <scizzo> GAH!
[02:34] <ZellSF> so, you can connect to a Windows shared directoy?
[02:34] <ZellSF> *directory
[02:34] <spiral> does anyone here know if the testing version of OOO2 will be updated in hoary ?
[02:35] <mpnw> yes
[02:35] <mpnw> connect to a shared directory
[02:35] <mpnw> can even connect to the printer through smbclient (as the site says)
[02:35] <mpnw> but that shows up that annoying undeletable document
[02:36] <ZellSF> That's... weird :/
[02:36] <ZellSF> Tried turning Windows firewall off? :P
[02:36] <mpnw> yes
[02:36] <mpnw> didnt do anything
[02:36] <mpnw> same prob with it on and off
[02:37] <ZellSF> hmm. *Hate* Synaptic Package Manager
[02:37] <nevyn> oh?
[02:37] <ZellSF> I try to uninstall Totem, and it uninstalls Gnome :/
[02:37] <ZellSF> Or not Gnome, but the ubuntu desktop :/
[02:38] <gabaug> anybody else get "Error: failed to initialize HAL!" on login to Gnome on Hoary?
[02:38] <nevyn> ubuntu-desktop depends on totem
[02:38] <ZellSF> Yes, but I want do install the *xine* version of Totem :/
[02:38] <ZellSF> Because Totem can't open files :/
[02:39] <gabaug> ZellSF: I don't think it'll really hurt you too much not to have ubuntu-desktop installed, you'll just miss out on a little of it's meta goodness
[02:39] <SuSE|UsER> Hello, where can i find libcrypto.dylib?
[02:39] <ZellSF> Why can't Totem play files? :/
[02:39] <linux_mafia> anyone else using hoary had devices dissapear from "places -> computer"?
[02:40] <SuSE|UsER> ZellSF, you need w32 codecs
[02:40] <gabaug> linux_mafia: yeah, they used to auto show when plugged in (two diff. usb drives) ... are you getting a HAL error on Gnome login?
[02:40] <ZellSF> And what is the package name for those?
[02:41] <SuSE|UsER> w32codecs <- ;)
[02:41] <linux_mafia> gabaug, nah my dvdrom and burner not showing up anymore, device manager is not working, although i have no error on login
[02:41] <SuSE|UsER> ZellSF, add this to your repository : ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[02:42] <ZellSF> both deb and deb-src ?
[02:42] <linux_mafia> gabaug, i think its this line from my dmesg : PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
[02:42] <SuSE|UsER> ZellSF, only deb
[02:43] <ZellSF> Ok... trying that now
 I have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(
[02:44] <ZellSF> Anyone?
[02:44] <mpnw> http://dave.ozweb.nu/printer/smb.conf
[02:44] <mpnw> is the samba config
[02:45] <ZellSF> if you have problems connecting to another server, I don't think your server config matters much :/
[02:45] <mpnw> umm
[02:45] <mpnw> what do i need then?
[02:45] <mpnw> what do u need then?
[02:46] <ZellSF> I don't know, I probably can't help you anyways. I know nothing about ubuntu :/
[02:46] <mpnw> scizzo?
[02:49] <SuSE|UsER> Maybe someone know where can i find libcrypto.dylib?
[02:51] <website> SuSE|UsER, i don't know, but if you use ubuntu open the repo to universe and search it with aptitude or sinaptic
[02:52] <aquarius> Can I use the warty release CD to upgrade a Debian testing box directly to warty?
[02:52] <mlambie> I'm looking at replacing the last windows machine in my house with Ubuntu (I already use it on my laptop, and g/friends desktop). This machine runs a java bit torrent client. I currently use VNC to connect, add any torrents, and disconnect. Does a linux VNC server offer the same capabailities as the windows server? Or can I use XDMCP (this appears to kill any open apps when i log out, as you'd expect)
[02:52] <aquarius> mlambie: yes. See x11vnc.
[02:52] <snowblink> hi - want to figure out if this is just me or a thunderbird issue. Anyone using thunderbird got a minute?
[02:52] <mlambie> aquarius: thanks for the pointer
[02:53] <SuSE|UsER> website, of course im using Ubuntu but there are no such package
[02:53] <website> SuSE|UsER, have you opened your repo to universe section?
[02:53] <aquarius> mlambie: there's also vino, a VNC server for gnome, which might be even better.
[02:54] <tritium> just what I was about to suggest
[02:54] <mlambie> aquarius: thanks (again) :)
[02:54] <SuSE|UsER> website, of course i did it , i'm not such big newbie ;)
[02:54] <website> is it enought that i run "dpkg-reconfigure locale" and set locales to change language to my ubuntu?
[02:54] <maggi> act 1
[02:54] <mpnw> Paused: ERRDOS - ERRbadaccess (Invalid open mode.) opening remote file Test Page
[02:54] <mpnw> im now getting that
[02:55] <mpnw> when printing test page
[02:55] <website> SuSE|UsER, if you don't find it try using google, i don't know anything about it
[02:55] <SuSE|UsER> website, i'm trying :)
[02:56] <mlambie> does anyone know how to enable XDMCP in the login chooser? I am sure I've seen it before, but it's not ther ein the session windows anymore for me
[02:56] <maggi> !help
[02:56] <maggi> exit
[02:57] <mlambie> i have enabled XDMCP on the target machine, and can connect with xnest, but i don't get an XDMCP option from the login screen
[02:58] <a-x-e-l> hye all, Is anyone have already install Ubuntu 4.10 on a Compaq Armada 1592DT ?
[02:58] <SuSE|UsER> mlambie, i founded XDMCP option in login screen setup
[02:59] <Falstius> what does acpi=off apm=off really do?  Obviously some of these functions still work (power off) so what is turned off?
[03:00] <Schaap> Hi, where can i find more information about the packages?
[03:00] <Schaap> becuase i installed phpbb and the phpbb2-conf-mysql thing
[03:00] <Schaap> but id like to know tha password
[03:00] <Schaap> the
[03:00] <tritium> mlambie, did you use "Login Screen Setup"?
[03:00] <Schaap> cant be found in the documentation deliverd with it
[03:01] <SuSE|UsER> Ok libcrypto.dylib is in libssl-dev package :D
[03:01] <tritium> mlambie, under Security tab, is "Allow running XDMCP chooser from the login screen" checked?
[03:03] <[S] pick> anyone know how to get sound working in flash?????!?!?!
[03:03] <snowblink> never mind. It was a rogue samba mount causing hassle...
[03:03] <[S] pick> FLASH + SOUND = Help...
[03:03] <mpnw> i guess noone can help me with my problem
[03:04] <[S] pick> woot radeon 9600xt working in ubuntu... alont with realtek audio.. but no sound in FLASH!! so help!
[03:04] <SuSE|UsER> mpnw, if nobody can help you here try post your problem on forum www.ubuntuforums.org ;)
[03:04] <website> [S] pick, look to the configuration of you browser
[03:04] <[S] pick> where at?
 I have a problem with my external USB harddisk, /dev/sda1 isn't created before I plug it out and back in again :(
[03:04] <website> mpnw, problem?
[03:04] <ZellSF> Anyone? :(
[03:05] <scizzo> mpnw: if the access to the printer is access denied then you should start to look at the server that is sharing the printer
[03:05] <website> ZellSF, put it on and it is automounted
[03:05] <ZellSF> website: eh, what do you mean?
[03:05] <[S] pick> i'm using firefox.. i have a realtek sound.. flash works.. but tiwhout sound...
[03:05] <[S] pick> i got sound working in stuff like Enemy territory... and i can play music and movies.. etc..
[03:05] <website> ZellSF, link your pen to usb device, and it will work
[03:05] <snowblink> [S] pick: do you have any other things using the sound card at the same time?
[03:06] <[S] pick> no
[03:06] <ZellSF> Link *what* to usb device? And how do I do that? :/
[03:06] <snowblink> [S] pick: try stopping ESD
[03:06] <[S] pick> ESD =??
[03:06] <website> ZellSF, are you using gnome?
[03:06] <ZellSF> Enlgihtment Sound Daemon
[03:06] <ZellSF> Yes, I'm using Gnome
[03:06] <[S] pick> ah
[03:07] <website> ok so get you usb harddrive
[03:07] <[S] pick> so run off just alsa?
[03:07] <website> and plug it with an usb cable
[03:07] <ZellSF> yes, I've done that.
[03:07] <ZellSF> I don't want to plug it out and in again just for Linx to add it to /dev/
[03:07] <website> and then your harddrive will be detected (by hotplug) linked (by udev) and mounted
[03:08] <ZellSF> Yes, it is, but when I restart I have to replugin my USB drive, because it isn't in /dev/ anymore
[03:08] <[S] pick> best way to disable and re-enable ESD is?
[03:08] <ZellSF> which is kind of irritating :(
[03:08] <ZellSF> Any ideas website`?
[03:09] <Falstius> ZellSF, if your problem that you can't read it when you first plug it in, or you want to do something fancy with /dev/sda1 during boot?
[03:09] <website> as i know (it can be wrong) udev organize /dev and creates links accordind to hotplug
[03:09] <website> you harddrive should be detected when you will reeboot
[03:09] <website> and linked again
[03:09] <ZellSF> Falstius: I want it to automatically mount
[03:09] <website> automatically
[03:09] <ZellSF> but it isn't added to /dev/ before I plug it out and in again.
[03:10] <ZellSF> ...?
[03:10] <[S] pick> oh.. i have another problem..  i have this network mount in samba.. to my windows pc.. it work when i start up.. and i can play music off it etc.. but it stops working after a while..
[03:10] <ZellSF> Any suggestions on how to fix that?
[03:11] <Falstius> Zell, sounds like it isn't being recognized the first time you plug it in ... maybe you don't leave it in long enough
[03:11] <website> ZellSF, i can't help you since when i plug my usb pen and reebot it is seen by hotplug and relinked
[03:11] <ZellSF> Well, after I restart, I fully start Gnome
[03:11] <ZellSF> Still no sign of sda1
[03:11] <ZellSF> I have to reinsert the usb cable for it to work :/
[03:12] <Falstius> Zell, have you checked dmesg for errors?
[03:12] <ZellSF> No
[03:12] <ZellSF> That in /var/log ?
[03:12] <Falstius> Zell, just sudo dmesg
[03:12] <website> ZellSF, my usb is detected at boot time
[03:13] <[S] pick> i followinstruction from ubuntu site on setting up samba.. i did it.. and created a mount to a folder on my windows pc.. i can play music off it for a while.. but it just stops working.. and when i try to access it again..  nopthing pops up in the folder view of the mount
[03:13] <ZellSF> I can't see any obvious errors...
[03:14] <[S] pick> i can acess the share otherwise and move files to ubuntu pc.. then play them.. but i want the moujnt to always work..
[03:14] <Boohbah> can i get an ubuntu iso image in a torrent?
[03:14] <ZellSF> yes
[03:14] <Falstius> Zell, after a reboot, plug in your usb device and then do it.  That way any messages about the usb are at the end.
[03:14] <ZellSF> you can download torrents from the main page
[03:15] <ZellSF> usb messages are at end now
[03:15] <ZellSF> scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[03:15] <ZellSF>   Vendor: ST94811A  Model:                   Rev: 3.05
[03:15] <ZellSF>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
[03:15] <ZellSF> SCSI device sda: 78140161 512-byte hdwr sectors (40008 MB)
[03:15] <ZellSF> sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[03:15] <ZellSF>  /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[03:15] <ZellSF> Attached scsi disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[03:15] <ZellSF> USB Mass Storage device found at 3
[03:15] <ZellSF> Anything seems wrong there?
[03:17] <ZellSF> the problem really isn't with the device itself, it works fine, but it isn't added to /dev/ before I reinsert the USB cable.
[03:17] <ZellSF> So no automounts at all  :(
[03:17] <nevyn> ummm.. that should just work out of the box.
[03:17] <ZellSF> It doesn't work.
[03:18] <nevyn> it's not automount's problem btw.
[03:18] <nevyn> it's hotplug's
[03:18] <ZellSF> Yeah, I figured something like that, but any idea how to *fix* it?
[03:18] <nevyn> ZellSF: it doesn't just appear in computer?
[03:18] <thully> hi - I recently saw some openoffice.org2 packages in Hoary - is a working snapshot of OO.o 2 in Hoary, or just parts of one?
[03:19] <ZellSF> nevyn: it does, after I reinsert the USB cable
[03:19] <ZellSF> disabling any sort of automatic mounting.
[03:19] <SuSE|UsER> thully, OOo2 works in Hoary
[03:19] <nevyn> hangon so you're trying to setup automount. for something that works without automount?
[03:20] <ZellSF> It does *work*, but it doesn't automatically work, I have to reinsert the USB cable to find it :/
[03:20] <nevyn> ok it doesn't work if the device is plugged in at boot time?
[03:20] <ZellSF> Exactly
[03:21] <thully> is it the default or is OO.o 1.1.3 still the default?
[03:21] <ZellSF> Any way to do anything about that?
[03:21] <[S] pick> cant you just run a command when you need it?
[03:21] <[S] pick> or are you really that lazy?
[03:21] <ZellSF> Well, it does work if the device is plugged in at boot time, but I have to reinsert the USB cable
[03:21] <nevyn> [S] pick: that's not the point.
[03:21] <ZellSF> [S] pick: yes, I'm really, really lazy.
[03:22] <ZellSF> That, and it really annoys me when stuff doesn't work as it's supposed to
[03:22] <[S] pick> lol
[03:22] <nevyn> ZellSF: no that means that the behavior is different when hotplugd runs at boot to when hotplugd runs on a actual hotplugging of a device that's wrong.
[03:22] <haggai> thully: 113 is still the default
[03:22] <haggai> thully: openoffice.org2 is in universe
[03:22] <ZellSF> nevyn: is there anything to do about that?
[03:22] <[S] pick> isn't there a way to restart hotplug automatically
[03:22] <[S] pick> ?
[03:23] <tritium> /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[03:23] <thully> will oo.o 2.0 be the default in hoary final if it is released in time?
[03:24] <ZellSF> yes, but I don't want to restart hotplug at each restart either :/
[03:24] <[S] pick> make an icon :/
[03:24] <[S] pick> or have it autoload
[03:24] <[S] pick> and the command run easily when you need it
[03:24] <nevyn> ZellSF: why not. if that solves it that'd be fine
[03:24] <[S] pick> a 1 letter script or something
[03:24] <[S] pick> lmfao
[03:24] <ZellSF> oh...
[03:24] <ZellSF> SCSI errors
[03:24] <ZellSF> I/O erros
[03:24] <ZellSF> *errors
[03:24] <nevyn> bleh
[03:24] <ZellSF> nice.
[03:25] <nevyn> probably just a dodgy connector.
[03:25] <[S] pick> lol
[03:25] <nevyn> there's no actual scsi controller on a usb block device so.. you know.
[03:25] <[S] pick> my firend plugged his laptop drive enclosure to my pc through usb no prob...
[03:25] <[S] pick> wasnt exactly a brand name one either..
[03:26] <simon> hi, I installed ubuntu yesterday and now i just noticed i cant boot in to osx. I have checked the yabbot.conf and that is fine. I'm using a dual 2x2 G5
[03:26] <[S] pick> are you sure you didnt overwrite os X?
[03:26] <simon> yes :)
[03:26] <[S] pick> lol
[03:26] <simon> i pulled the second HD
[03:26] <[S] pick> ;)
[03:26] <simon> and osx booted fine
[03:26] <[S] pick> i love my g-FO
[03:26] <ZellSF> hmm, any more suggestions what I can do?
[03:27] <Schaap> becuase i installed phpbb and the phpbb2-conf-mysql thing, but what is the default login/password?
[03:27] <ZellSF> or at least a way to automatically do a restart of hotplug at restart to see if that works?
[03:27] <[S] pick> cron?
[03:28] <nevyn> hrm what happens if you have a service symlinked multiple times in /etc/rc2.d/?
[03:28] <ZellSF> I have no idea how to use that.
[03:28] <[S] pick> ibm.com/developerworks
[03:28] <ZellSF> nevyn: I don't know :/
[03:28] <[S] pick> cron can execute that..
[03:28] <website> nevyn, it is executed many times
[03:28] <nevyn> cron is a bad idea.
[03:28] <simon> do anyone here succesfully dualboot osx from a second HD on a g5?
[03:28] <nevyn> website: excellent
[03:28] <website> as how may files have in your dir
[03:28] <nevyn> only as many as you specified. right?
[03:28] <website> yes
[03:28] <[S] pick> what if you linked the hotplug restart to x-server quit? so ctrl-alt-bacspace
[03:29] <shock> m00h
[03:29] <[S] pick> remounts your drive
[03:29] <[S] pick> ?
[03:29] <ZellSF> [S] pick: Why would I want to kill the x-server to restart hotplug? :/
[03:29] <[S] pick> lmfao
[03:29] <[S] pick> simple
[03:29] <[S] pick> lmfao
[03:30] <nevyn> that'd be dumb.
[03:30] <[S] pick> i know
[03:30] <asdfasdfasdf> Hello, I have working dlink network card, (it works in win98) but now I have installed Ubuntu Linux and internet wont work, how/where I can set it up?
[03:30] <[S] pick> it was supposed to be
[03:30] <nevyn> you could just move the simlink for hotplug to be later.
[03:30] <nevyn> I suspect it is starting before filesystems are r/w or something
[03:31] <snowblink> asdfasdfasdf: you may need ndiswrapper
[03:31] <asdfasdfasdf> Whats that?
[03:31] <snowblink> snowblink: it wraps up a windows driver for use in linux
[03:31] <ZellSF> nevyn: I do get some hotplug errors about that :/
[03:31] <snowblink> asdfasdfasdf: it wraps up a windows driver for use in linux
[03:31] <otroean> HI. I'm downloading Ubunto 4.10 because my Libranet crashed. Can i just install the Ubuntu over Libranet?
[03:31] <ZellSF> But I thought that was normal :/
[03:32] <Schaap> is my question that impossible :(
[03:32] <bigbubba> anyone here have experience with vmware, i'm curious how do you get it to use your current internet connection? do i have to install the real drive on windows xp in vmware? or how does that work
[03:32] <ZellSF> So, nevyn, how do I move the simlink for hotplug? :/
[03:32] <simon> anyone know a irc channel for yaboot?
[03:34] <ZellSF> ...?
[03:35] <ZellSF> nevyn...?
[03:38] <tezem> Is there a way to get also the 32bit repos with the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[03:41] <mjr> tezem, only in a separate chroot
[03:41] <mjr> multiarch support will come Someday
[03:41] <shock> ok - advanced question: how do I reset evolution to 0 without removing .gconf*
[03:42] <|m0rph|> hello !
[03:42] <|m0rph|> i'm need some printer support ..
[03:43] <bigbubba> anyone have an idea about vmware as i mentioned?
[03:44] <ZellSF> "scsi5 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device
[03:44] <ZellSF> FAT: Directory bread(block 19114) failed"
[03:45] <ZellSF> Any ideas?
[03:45] <arthur__> hey, guys.. I have problems mounting vfat floppies and trying to access them with OpenOffice Writer..
[03:45] <arthur__> any idea?
[03:46] <tezem> mjr: ok thx do you know if it's simple to switch from amd64 to normal x86?
[03:46] <tezem> or is a complete newinstall needed?
[03:47] <Lathiat> Has anyone else noticed a *big* slowdown in start-time for gnome in hoary within the last couple weeks?
[03:48] <|m0rph|> anyone has a printer shared by samba ?
[03:48] <ZellSF> sigh...
[03:48] <shock> no - I rarely restart gnome :P
[03:48] <tuxJr_14> hi
[03:48] <shock> nope... am using CUPS for my printers
[03:48] <shock> hoi tux
[03:49] <|m0rph|> the printer manager just quits , it think it is a bug ..
[03:49] <tuxJr_14> hi shock
[03:50] <shock> er.... question: balckbox broken for anyone else @ hoary-powerpc
[03:51] <|m0rph|> what is the url sintax for the printer in CUPS ?
[03:52] <Falstius> |m0rph|<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:52] <tritium> Wow, http://www.no-name-yet.com still resolves.
[03:56] <Falstius> oh, and for the samba password you can't use some characters (! for one)
[03:57] <ZellSF> Ok... So, when I restart hotplug, it works fine :/ ...
[03:57] <sirukin> hmm
[03:57] <nevyn> ZellSF: so it's just bits being not yet mounted or whatever.
[03:57] <sirukin> hey guys
[03:57] <nevyn> can you send restart from init?
[03:57] <sirukin> how would I go about setting up internet connection sharing with ubuntu?
[03:57] <ZellSF> nevyn: no idea. Hotplug still refuses to work at startup :(
[03:58] <ZellSF> Send restart from init? what do you mean?
[03:58] <nevyn> ZellSF: but if you do /etc/init.d/hotplug restart it works?
[03:58] <ZellSF> yes
[03:58] <nevyn> ok.
[03:58] <ZellSF> but not when starting the computer :/
[03:58] <nevyn> ZellSF: what do you think happens when the computer starts?
[03:58] <sirukin> hmm
[03:58] <ZellSF> Eh, with hotplug or what?
[03:58] <nevyn> that script is one of the ones that get's run.
[03:59] <ZellSF> yeah. and so?
[03:59] <nevyn> it's just being run too early before some other bit of the system is initialised
[03:59] <nevyn> so change when it runs
[03:59] <ZellSF> Yes, but you disappeared when I was asking you *how* to fix that :/
[03:59] <ZellSF> ...?
[03:59] <sirukin> anyone?
[04:00] <nevyn> ZellSF: mv /etc/rc2.d/Snnhotplugd /etc/rc2.d/Syyhotplugd
[04:00] <nevyn> where nn is the orriginal execution priority and yy is the new priority
[04:00] <ZellSF> mv: cannot stat `/etc/rc2.d/Snnhotplugd'
[04:01] <ZellSF> oh
[04:01] <ZellSF> I see, what do I change the priority to?
[04:01] <nevyn> ZellSF: assuming ubuntu havn't changed it too much it's actually /etc/rcS.d/S40hotplugd
[04:01] <zygan> hi...i'm fairly new to linux, and i'm trying to compile postgresql 8 and i keep getting a "readline not found error", realine is installed according to apt-get...anyone know what i can do to fix it?
[04:01] <lifeless> install readline-de
[04:01] <lifeless> v
[04:01] <nevyn> ZellSF: does /etc/init.d/hotplug start also fix the problem or do you need restart?
[04:02] <sirukin> hmm
[04:02] <ZellSF> eh, good question, I'd have to restart to check that :/
[04:02] <nevyn> hrm looks like start will do.
[04:02] <nevyn> ZellSF: just do this.
[04:02] <sirukin> share my internet from my dial-up computer?
[04:02] <ZellSF> nevyn: do what?
[04:02] <nevyn> ZellSF: cp /etc/rcS.d/S40hotplug /etc/rcS.d/S99hotplug
[04:02] <otroean> Hi. I've installed Libranet 2.81, but i want to install ubuntu. Is it just to overwrite the Libranet installation?
[04:03] <nevyn> that makes hotplug run at 40 for anything that needs it to be then and last of all
[04:03] <tritium> otroean, you can overwrite it if you want to
[04:03] <sirukin> exit
[04:03] <sirukin> exit
[04:04] <otroean> thnx
[04:07] <ZellSF> didn't work :/
[04:08] <ZellSF> which directory was it again?
[04:08] <nevyn> ZellSF: tell me when automount starts?
[04:08] <ZellSF> automount?
[04:08] <ZellSF> Dunno :/
[04:08] <nevyn> ok.. stuff in /etc/rcS.d is executed according to numeric priority
[04:09] <seth_> wxPython isn't at the repository is it ?
[04:09] <nevyn> then stuff in /etc/rc2.d is executed according to numeric priority
[04:09] <ZellSF> and what is the automount file named?
[04:09] <nevyn> umm
[04:09] <nevyn> S??automount
[04:09] <nevyn> it's in one of either /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rcS.d
[04:10] <M3ta> You mean, rc2.d if you don't mess with your inittab to change your runlevel :)
[04:10] <nevyn> ZellSF: just sudo mv /etc/rcS.d/S99hotplug /etc/rc2.d/S99hotplug
[04:10] <ZellSF> Can't find it :/
[04:10] <nevyn> M3ta: given ZellSF's current understanding of init I'm assuming he hasn't done that.
[04:11] <nevyn> bah I just blew away my ubuntu system and installed sid again.
[04:11] <oly> just a quick question, when accessing windows shares i get asked for passwords in samba but not any set
[04:11] <ZellSF> /etc/rcS.d/s99hotplug': No such file or directory
[04:11] <ZellSF> O_o
[04:11] <tritium> nevyn, :(
[04:11] <oly> so what should i type to access the shares, or why is it even asking me
[04:11] <nevyn> tritium: ubuntu annoyed me.
[04:12] <nevyn> gnome 2.8 annoyed me a lot.
[04:12] <ZellSF> oly: because the folder you're trying to connect isn't set as a public folder :/
[04:12] <nevyn> and my wife hated it.
[04:12] <Lathiat> my mum loves it
[04:12] <tritium> isn't gnome 2.8 in sid?
[04:12] <oly> but if i access it on another windows machine it does not ask for a password or user
[04:12] <M3ta> Funny, heh, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop because i wanted Gnome 2.8. To each his own :)
[04:13] <Boohbah> tritium: but who would ever use debian?
[04:13] <tritium> M3ta, yeah, me too.  I found out about ubuntu from hanging out in #gnome-debian
[04:13] <tritium> Boohbah, nevyn does
[04:15] <Se7h> o.0
[04:15] <Se7h> wxPython isn't at the repository is it ?
[04:15] <oly> the windows machines are set up using simple sharing, and definately have no username or password account
[04:15] <oly> but it still asks
 tritium: but who would ever use debian? <-- me
[04:16] <shock> used it happily for 5 years the least
[04:16] <oly> i tried entering my windows username, with no password but that does not seem to work
[04:16] <nevyn> the only thing that would interest me in ubuntu at this point is if I needed commercial backup support for something
[04:16] <Boohbah> i would probably use debian too if i needed a binary distro for an old server...
[04:16] <nevyn> oly: try guest with no password
[04:16] <tritium> I still have sid on a few machines
[04:16] <oly> the windows machine do not even have passwords to login and use them
[04:17] <oly> okay will try
[04:17] <tritium> for now...
[04:18] <M3ta> nevyn: Maybe you can tell me something, please. I got a sarge, but i really want to test the unstable stuff. Is sid comparable to ubuntu, in 'unstable packages versions'? I mean, is Gnome 2.9 on sid too, for example?
[04:18] <oly> nope, its poped up and asked for a password again
[04:18] <nevyn> M3ta: you need to understand that unstable refers to the packaging not the software
[04:18] <M3ta> I know. that's why i stated it as en example. :)
[04:19] <M3ta> *an
[04:19] <code> how do get rid of the old irefox after upgrading it?
[04:19] <code> firefox*
[04:19] <wezzer> via synaptic?
[04:20] <Guardiann> good morning everyone
[04:20] <nevyn> M3ta: the current gnome in sid is 2.8
[04:20] <code> i see
[04:20] <code> i didnt know thats what that was
[04:20] <code> thank you
[04:20] <M3ta> Hmm good enough, time to edit the spt-sources and try it. thanks nevyn.
[04:21] <nevyn> M3ta: my desktop workstations always run sid.
[04:22] <code> so what is mozilla browser?
[04:22] <M3ta> nevyn: so you agree with me when i say that "unstable is really unstable only if you can't handle it"? ;)
[04:22] <M3ta> I've always been using "unstables".
[04:26] <jgedeon> hi. i got a problem getting my tape device to run. i added "alias /dev/ht0 ide-tape" to /etc/modules.conf (not directly, i used the script as recommended). anyway, after a reboot, neither does /dev/ht0 exist nor does lsmod show an entry for ide-tape (resp. ide_tape). any ideas? thanks in advance
[04:26] <ZellSF> Ok, it actually finds sda1 now, yai!
[04:27] <ZellSF> But it still isn't automatically mounted :/
[04:27] <shock> anyone else having epiphany crashing when doing: edit->toolbars ?
[04:29] <ZellSF> Anyone can help explain me how to automount the disk now that I don't have to reinsert it to detect it?
[04:30] <trey3> shock: most people don't use Epiphany
[04:31] <shock> probably
[04:31] <shock> but its alot faster then firefox
[04:31] <shock> :)
[04:31] <ZellSF> what does Rhythmbox use to play MP3 files?
[04:31] <shock> And I grew fond of it
[04:31] <shock> hm
[04:31] <shock> dunno? gstreamer?
[04:31] <ZellSF> Probably not.
[04:32] <trey3> shock: not so much... it uses the same exact engine... except it doesn't require full mozilla, so saves space  :/
[04:32] <trey3> ZellSF: 'gstreamer0.8-mad'
[04:32] <trey3> Its in Universe
[04:33] <bur[n] er> it uses gstreamer
[04:33] <shock> well.... I prefer some minor issues in epiphany
[04:33] <bur[n] er> without a doubt
[04:33] <ZellSF> oh.
[04:33] <ZellSF> great
[04:33] <ZellSF> now ubuntu has no internet connection
[04:33] <ZellSF> ...
[04:33] <trey3> ZellSF: haha
[04:33] <shock> like the fact that firefox places the curser @ pos 0 in input-filds you mark that have something in them - epiphany uses ->gettext()->length()
[04:34] <ZellSF> Wtf. Why did ubuntu suddenly start hating the internet? :(
[04:34] <shock> my ubuntu loves the internet
[04:34] <shock> maybe its a user-thing
[04:34] <shock> ;)
[04:34] <klaym> my ubuntu literally dives in the waves of internet
[04:34] <ZellSF> my ubuntu can't resolve enough servers to love the internet :/
[04:35] <jgedeon> anybody?
[04:35] <Se7h> o.0
[04:35] <shock> add some more nameservers then
[04:35] <ZellSF> Oh, well, anyone know how to automatically mount harddrives?
[04:35] <ZellSF> shock: ehm, why would I need to do that?
[04:35] <raydogg> is smb4k not in the warty release ?
[04:35] <trey3> raydogg: in universe I believe
[04:35] <Se7h> ZellSF fstab
[04:36] <trey3> its KDE... nothing for KDE is in main
[04:36] <shock> so u get more server-addies resolved?
[04:36] <ZellSF> fstab doesn't execute late enough
[04:36] <raydogg> Is there a gnome tool that does what smb4k does ?
[04:36] <Se7h> uh?
[04:36] <raydogg> i do not have kde installed
[04:36] <ZellSF> My harddrive is detected *much* later than fstab now :/
[04:36] <ZellSF> hotplug didn't like its original priority.
[04:36] <shock> jgedon - is that drive detected at all?
[04:36] <trey3> raydogg: not well... heh
[04:36] <raydogg> well, i can't play mp3s over the network using the default network browser tool :-(
[04:37] <raydogg> I guess i could mount them myself
[04:37] <santiago> Hi, I have a problem with my wirless network card
[04:37] <shock> rhathmbox works absolutely smoothy for me
[04:37] <Se7h> and my alien is fu**ed up
[04:37] <trey3> raydogg: huh? throw them into Rhythmbox?  :/
[04:37] <Se7h> lol
[04:37] <santiago> when I try to load de ndiswrapper module, i get this: # modprobe -v ndiswrapper
[04:37] <santiago> insmod /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[04:37] <santiago> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format
[04:37] <santiago> it's a bcm94306
[04:38] <santiago> anyone could help me?
[04:39] <snowblink> santiago: did you compile it or apt-get?
[04:39] <weblin> Hi all. I've got problems with ubuntu being very sluggish. when I run gnome-system-manager as root, I've got a load of processes running with nice -10, could that be why?
[04:40] <raydogg> trey3, i use xmms
[04:40] <ZellSF> I've got problems, more of them O_o. Sound doesn't work in Rhythmbox.
[04:40] <trey3> raydogg: that sucks  :/
[04:40] <santiago> snowblink, apt-get
[04:40] <snowblink> weblin: yes, possibly.
[04:40] <trey3> raydogg: xmms-mad though...
[04:41] <snowblink> santiago: you did ndiswrapper -i yourdriver.inf ?
[04:41] <trey3> ZellSF: you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[04:41] <weblin> snowblink they all seem to be kernel processes i think. udev, kblockd and resier. should they have -10 nice?
[04:41] <ZellSF> yes
[04:42] <ZellSF> codecs are ok
[04:42] <trey3> weblin: yes.. and those aren't kernel processes...
[04:42] <weblin> oh right
[04:42] <shock> hmpf... heise.de is under DoS :/
[04:43] <shock> I hope they get those........
[04:43] <shock> *grml*
[04:43] <ZellSF> Hmm, just volume control reseting to 0% without a reason O_o
[04:43] <weblin> trey3, so what could explain the sluggishness on this system?
[04:43] <ZellSF> or maybe it just starts like that.
[04:43] <santiago> snowblink, mmm, the guide that i found use modprobe first, thanks, the module has loaded
[04:43] <trey3> weblin: no idea...
[04:43] <santiago> snowblink, :$
[04:43] <snowblink> santiago: cool
[04:44] <trey3> weblin: those are background processes though... not related to anything running  :/
[04:44] <ZellSF> Any idea on how to automatically mount a drive *after* init?
[04:44] <snowblink> weblin: what's the load on your box?
[04:44] <weblin> it's weird, sometimes the system 'feels' fine, but othertimes it's terrible.
[04:45] <jgedeon> shock: yes, at boot time the kernel recognizes it, but doesn't map it to /dev
[04:45] <klaym> weblin: hoary or warty? I run the latest warty and this is working like a charm
[04:45] <code> ok i just updated my firefox....how do i put it in the applicatins menu?
[04:45] <weblin> klaym, warty
[04:45] <klaym> k
[04:45] <trey3> code: it should already be there.... in hoary, you can't edit menu's currently though  ://
 shock: yes, at boot time the kernel recognizes it, but doesn't map it to /dev <--- running udev?
[04:46] <shock> have you googled ybout your specific drive and checked?
[04:46] <weblin> snowblink, the load says: cpu1 1% (goes between 1 and 4 constantly) and cpu2 is between 1 and 3%. thats from gnome-syustem-monitor
[04:46] <code> it was there...the old version.....but i gor rid of that for the new....theres no way to put it in there?
[04:47] <mpnw> help with printer please!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13543
[04:47] <weblin> snowblink, it's a hyperthreaded p4 so I'm running 2.6.10 from k.org with smp
[04:47] <snowblink> weblin: how much disk space do you have left?
[04:47] <mpnw> hello
[04:47] <davexc> can someone help me with some printer issues?
[04:48] <weblin> snowblink, on root 16G, on home 35G, on boot 42m
 <-- if all else fails - try restarting gnome
[04:48] <shock> but usually firefox should be detected by the menu
[04:48] <snowblink> weblin: check your logs for any errors or strangeness
[04:48] <trey3> code: don't DCC, only /msg if you have to  :/
[04:48] <code> soryy...im new to all of this
[04:49] <shock> no need to feel sorry - be proud!
[04:49] <shock> :)
[04:49] <davexc> haha
[04:49] <code> restarting gnome???restart my comp
[04:49] <davexc> can someone help me with printer/samba crashing
[04:49] <shock> just logout and then login again
[04:49] <davexc> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13543
[04:49] <shock> should do
[04:50] <shock> I have no clue about samba printing :/
[04:50] <davexc> oh okay...
[04:50] <davexc> samba crashes on startup when i have more than 1 printer installed
[04:50] <davexc> and its really annoying me
[04:50] <shock> thats one advantage of running a debian-stable server.... runs and runs and runs
[04:50] <code> brb
[04:50] <shock> :)
[04:50] <weblin> dont see any weirdness in messages or syslog
[04:51] <weblin> it's acting ok again now. jeeze
[04:51] <shock> lol... windoze style!
[04:51] <jgedeon> shock: udev? yes, i googled but didn't find anythin so far
[04:51] <shock> hm
[04:51] <snowblink> weblin: maybe run top -i next time to see if you can see anything nasty
[04:52] <shock> have u modprobed the driver for your tape?
[04:52] <shock> well
[04:52] <shock> what kind of tape is it anyways?
[04:54] <ZellSF> <<what's the name of Gnome's VNC server again?
[04:54] <ZellSF> Any which program do you all think is best for remote control?
[04:55] <jgedeon> shock: a seagate ST8000 ATAPI-Streamer
[04:55] <snowblink> ZellSF: vino
[04:57] <shock> well my father runs the same darn thingy..... now why is yours protesting
[04:58] <shock> well
[04:58] <shock> not 100% same
[04:58] <shock> but a seagate
[04:58] <shock> *grml*
[04:58] <jgedeon> shocK: well it's being recognized... it just doesn't map it
[04:59] <code> firefox still didnt show up
[05:00] <snowblink> code: warty or hoary?
[05:00] <code> warty
[05:00] <jgedeon> hdd: Seagate STT8000A, ATAPI TAPE drive
[05:00] <jgedeon> hdd: IRQ probe failed (0xffffbff8)
[05:01] <jgedeon> (from dmesg)
[05:01] <snowblink> code: right click where you want the icon to appear in the menu
[05:01] <shock> weird thing
[05:01] <punkrockguy318> how can I change the default "Open" folder?  It always opens to ~/Documents... I want it to be ~/
[05:01] <code> ok
[05:01] <snowblink> code: entire menu->Add new item to this menu
[05:02] <occy> trey3: yeah, I concur.
[05:03] <occy> trey3: it's odd there hasn't been one yet.
[05:03] <trey3> occy: using hoary?
[05:03] <occy> trey3: hoary scares me.
[05:03] <ZellSF> what's a good site for Gnome themes?
[05:03] <code> ok where do the programs save at?
[05:03] <punkrockguy318> ZellSF, gnome-look.org
[05:03] <occy> trey3: I don't know enough to use it.
[05:03] <trey3> occy: yeah... especially considering its after freeze  :/
[05:03] <ZellSF> thanks
[05:03] <trey3> occy: oh  :(
[05:03] <snowblink> code: where did you install firefox from? Source or apt-get?
[05:04] <occy> snowblink: or tarball.
[05:04] <code> the firefox site....i made a folder to extract it to....then installed it
[05:04] <occy> snowblink: sounds like he installed from the tarball. :)
[05:04] <snowblink> code: try /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin
[05:04] <snowblink> occy: yup
[05:05] <occy> snowblink: it's going to be in his home dir more than likely
[05:05] <snowblink> code: or where you downloaded it to
[05:05] <occy> snowblink: and not in his $PATH
[05:05] <snowblink> occy: he just wants an link in the menu, so not fussed about PATH
[05:06] <occy> oh ok... /me shushes
[05:06] <snowblink> occy: probably best to link it anyway I guess
[05:06] <snowblink> occy: less problems down the line
[05:06] <Deviad> Hello
[05:06] <Deviad> I have got some problems with ubuntu and grub
[05:07] <Deviad> VFS: Cannot open root "hdb5" OR unknown-block (0,0)
[05:07] <code> ok its not in any of those
[05:07] <Deviad> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[05:07] <snowblink> code: where did you download it to?
[05:08] <trey3> Deviad: where did you put /  ?
[05:08] <Deviad> kernel panic: VFS: Cannopen root on unknown-block(0,0)
[05:08] <PuGz> i have heard that a development release of hoary was just recently released. I REALLY cant wait to get hoary... anyone know when it might be released? I apologise if this is a question that gets asked often and annoys people... but there didnt seem to be anywhere else that could give me a decent date for the release... i understand it might not be exact... but is it gonna be weeks? or months?
[05:08] <snowblink> Deviad: grub doesn't use hda or b or c ...
[05:08] <Deviad> wait
[05:08] <Deviad> wait
[05:08] <Deviad> ok
[05:08] <Jonathan_C> Hi Deviad
[05:08] <Deviad> I have /boot on /dev/hdb1
[05:08] <Deviad> and I checked device.map
[05:08] <PuGz> (hd1,0)
[05:08] <Deviad> and it is hd0,0
[05:08] <Deviad> according to device.map
[05:09] <trey3> PuGz: in April .... you can download ISO's of it now though... LiveCD and Install CD's are available etc...
[05:09] <Deviad> in fact it works with the default things ubuntu created
[05:09] <PuGz> trey3: are they the actual release or development ones? and whats the difference?
[05:09] <Deviad> I just want to run a kernel without initrd
[05:09] <Deviad> that I feel uncomfortable with
[05:09] <Deviad> so
[05:09] <Deviad> this is what I have
[05:09] <PuGz> same! i cant stand initrd
[05:09] <PuGz> i dont know why... it just annoys me
[05:09] <code> i found where it is.....but which file actually opens the program???????????????
[05:09] <trey3> PuGz: there are no releases of Hoary yet...
[05:10] <PuGz> trey3: so what are these ISO's you speak of?
[05:10] <Deviad> title           Herumor, kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[05:10] <Deviad> root            (hd0,0)
[05:10] <Deviad> kernel          /vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386 root=/dev/hdb5
[05:10] <snowblink> code: mozilla-firefox probably
[05:10] <Deviad> it should work according to the gentoo manual I have followed to configure grub
[05:11] <trey3> PuGz: there are 2... Daily snapshots... and Sounders (more complete etc) ... also LiveCD gets a daily snapshot release too...
[05:11] <Deviad> and some past knowledge
[05:11] <code> there is a bunch of different files in the folder.....which ione opens firefox??
[05:11] <code> icon*
[05:11] <Deviad> trey3, what sucks it's that you can't install hoary gnoppix on the HD
[05:11] <trey3> PuGz: what was announced was the first milestone for Hoary's LiveCD's on PowerPC, IA64, and AMD64
[05:11] <Deviad> because it misses the hdd install script since it's just a beta
[05:12] <snowblink> code: is there one called mozilla-firefox or firefox?
[05:12] <Deviad> and you can't use moprhix installer on the new gnoppix
[05:12] <Deviad> anyways, can you help me with my issue?
[05:12] <PuGz> trey3: so they make daily ISO's?
[05:12] <trey3> Deviad: sure you can... its exactly the same as the instlal CD  :/
[05:12] <Deviad> I have to fix the monitor refresh as well
[05:12] <trey3> PuGz: yes
[05:12] <PuGz> trey3: woah!
[05:12] <PuGz> i didnt know that!
[05:12] <PuGz> i have never heard of daily ISO's before!
[05:12] <PuGz> crazy!
[05:13] <PuGz> those sick bastards!
[05:13] <PuGz> hehe
[05:13] <PuGz> how very kind of them indeed!
[05:13] <trey3> :)
[05:13] <Deviad> well, if there some bastards out there who can help me I'd be thankful to him...
[05:13] <PuGz> Deviad: whats your biff?
[05:13] <Deviad> I typed it above
[05:13] <Deviad> :(
[05:14] <code> ok.....lets start over....i d/l firefox....made a folder to unzip it in....installed it....and i guess when i installed it...the files went to the same folder
[05:14] <Deviad> just few lines above
[05:14] <Deviad>  kernel panic: VFS: Cannopen root on unknown-block(0,0)
[05:14] <PuGz> trey3: I want to use ubuntu. I currently have a pre-release of WARTY on cd... but it doesnt work well... alsa sucks on it etc... i goto uni and they have a mirror of ubuntu... what do  you think the best way for me to get ubuntu is?
[05:14] <PuGz> i could lug my computer into uni and do it that way...
[05:15] <Deviad> can anyone get my menu.lst file so he can tell me what wrong is in it?
[05:15] <PuGz> or download the stuff at uni and put it on a dvd to bring home...
[05:15] <snowblink> Deviad: pastebin.com
[05:15] <Deviad> true
[05:15] <Deviad> I forgot that
[05:17] <code> ok...i found it
[05:17] <PuGz> what are universe, multiverse, restricted and main all about?
[05:18] <Deviad> http://pastebin.com/236248
[05:18] <Deviad> Have a look at this.
[05:18] <PuGz> and where in the directories of the mirror i use can i find the ISO's?
[05:19] <code> now can someone help me with my sound card not working?
[05:19] <trey3> PuGz: these are all things that you can find easily on the site   :/
[05:19] <snowblink> Deviad: hd1,0
[05:20] <PuGz> Deviad: your "root's" are wrong... hdb5 should have root (hd1,4) etc
[05:20] <Deviad> well
[05:20] <PuGz> trey3: aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
[05:20] <Deviad> according to device.map
[05:20] <Deviad> coming with grub
[05:20] <Deviad> hdb is hd0
[05:20] <Deviad> ^^
[05:20] <Deviad> I can't understand it either but it simply works
[05:21] <Deviad> at least with recovery mode, that was autoconfigured anyways
[05:21] <Deviad> at least with recovery mode, that was autoconfigured automatically
[05:21] <PuGz> hdb is hd1
[05:21] <PuGz> hda is hd0
[05:21] <Deviad> PuGz, the device map says hdb is hd0
[05:21] <Deviad> I read a guide on gentoo that says what you are saying
[05:21] <Deviad> but the device.map file says we are wrong
[05:21] <Deviad> ^^
[05:21] <PuGz> it shouldn't... do you understand the counting system?
[05:21] <Deviad> in my case at least
[05:21] <Deviad> yes
[05:21] <trey3> PuGz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view   < main restricted universe multiverse explained
[05:22] <Deviad> a = 0
[05:22] <Deviad> b = 1
[05:22] <snowblink> Deviad: okay, so what about the partition number?
[05:22] <Deviad> and so on
[05:22] <Deviad> 1 = 0
[05:22] <Deviad> 2 = 1
[05:22] <Deviad> and so on
[05:22] <PuGz> a=0, b=1, c=2, d=3 etc.... then the number trailing the a or b you subtract 1 from... ie 1=0, 2=1 etc
[05:22] <Deviad> I know that PuGz
[05:22] <PuGz> trey3: cheers
[05:22] <Deviad> but the device.map
[05:22] <Deviad> says that hdb = hd0
[05:22] <trey3> PuGz: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/  <-- the daily images... clearly marked...
[05:22] <Deviad> on my computer
[05:22] <Deviad> hdb1 = /boot
[05:22] <PuGz> why would it say that?
[05:22] <Deviad> hdb5 = /
[05:22] <Deviad> I dunno
[05:22] <Deviad> I can make a screenshot
[05:22] <Deviad> ^^
[05:23] <PuGz> do you nah... i'll be alright
[05:23] <snowblink> Deviad: hd1,5
[05:23] <snowblink> Deviad: hd0,5
[05:23] <Deviad> why is it like that?
[05:24] <jce> What is the major difference between ubuntu and debian?
[05:24] <snowblink> Deviad: I thought you said hdb5
[05:24] <Deviad> yes
[05:24] <trey3> Deviad: cuz its how grub defines it..   :/
[05:24] <Deviad> infact
[05:24] <Deviad> but in grub you count from 0
[05:24] <Deviad> not from 1
[05:24] <Deviad> so it's 0,4
[05:24] <Deviad> according to you
[05:25] <trey3> jce: Ubuntu has a more frequent release cycle... thats about it  :/
[05:25] <Deviad> but on gentoo it's explained that 0,0 is refeared to where /boot is located
[05:25] <trey3> jce: if you're using Sid... not much...
[05:25] <Deviad> so it should be 1,0
[05:25] <Deviad> but dev.map says hdb=0
[05:25] <Deviad> so it must be 0,0
[05:25] <Deviad> as reported for the other automatically configured devices
[05:25] <snowblink> Deviad: ah you have a separate /boot
[05:25] <Deviad> the problem is that it works just the recovery mode
[05:25] <jce> trey3: ahhh.
[05:25] <Deviad> Yes
[05:25] <Deviad> snowblink, exactly
[05:25] <Deviad> I have got a partition for boot
[05:26] <Deviad> that is hdb1
[05:26] <trey3> Deviad: no... first number defines disk... second number defines partition... it doesn't care about /boot etc... it just points at such things...
[05:26] <snowblink> Deviad: hd0,0 sounds good then
[05:26] <bitfoo> ubuntu uses the sarge installer :|
[05:26] <jce> trey3: so is there a reason to use ubuntu instead of sid?
[05:26] <Deviad> jce, if you have sid then stay with it
[05:26] <Deviad> ^^
[05:26] <Deviad> I got ubuntu just 2 try
[05:26] <Deviad> I have been using slackware for 2 years so far
[05:26] <trey3> jce: xorg and gnome devel without compiling yourself....
[05:27] <Deviad> jce, I still have xfree on ubuntu
[05:27] <Deviad> :|
[05:27] <Deviad> where do you see xorg?
[05:27] <stvn> Deviad: it's in hoary
[05:27] <trey3> Deviad: cuz you're using warty  :/
[05:27] <Deviad> uff
[05:27] <jce> I may move my home machine over to give it a try.
[05:27] <Deviad> are you using gnoppix?
[05:27] <bitfoo> use the livecd and decide for yourself
[05:27] <Deviad> anyways
[05:27] <Deviad> I want to fix this shit
[05:28] <trey3> jce: If you like Gnome and Debian... I'd recommend giving it a try as a desktop...
[05:28] <Deviad> well, gnome is just stable
[05:28] <Deviad> anyways I saw a better one
[05:28] <jce> can I just add lines to my sources for ubuntu?
[05:28] <bitfoo> ubuntu is particularly suited for laptops as well :)
[05:28] <jce> or do I need to do a clean install?
[05:28] <Deviad> Enlightenment 0.17
[05:29] <Deviad> this one must be really great
[05:29] <snowblink> Deviad: what happens if you change the device when you're at the menu?
[05:29] <stvn> Deviad: so i'm told 3 years ago
[05:29] <trey3> jce: sure... 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary(or warty) main restricted universe multiverse'
[05:29] <jce> cool.
[05:29] <Deviad> mmm
[05:29] <punkrockguy318> how can I change the default "Open" folder?  It always opens to ~/Documents... I want it to be ~/
[05:29] <trey3> jce: if you're using Sid though... Ubuntu hoary is a little behind...
[05:29] <Deviad> it says that it can't read after the cylinder number 1024
[05:30] <Deviad> or something like that
[05:30] <Deviad> I get errors 18 or 17
[05:30] <jce> thats unfortunate.
[05:30] <snowblink> Deviad: how large is your /boot?
[05:30] <Deviad> 64 MB
[05:30] <Deviad> and I have got an NFORCE 3 card
[05:30] <Deviad> ^^
[05:30] <Deviad> so it isn't old at all
[05:30] <Deviad> :D
[05:30] <Deviad> Gigabyte branded
[05:30] <Deviad> ^^
[05:31] <Deviad> I'm starting to think that grub just sux
[05:31] <PuGz> The weekly DVD's that are made... are they basically the same as the weekly cd's which have the install and some packages... but with the dvd just having more packages?
[05:31] <PuGz> Deviad: grub rocks once you get it
[05:32] <trey3> PuGz: its a bootloader... so long as it does its job... it neither sucks nor rocks  :/
[05:34] <Deviad> (hd0)   /dev/hdb
[05:34] <Deviad> (hd1)   /dev/sda
[05:34] <Deviad> (hd2)   /dev/sdb
[05:34] <Deviad> This is what I have for those who don't believe me
[05:34] <Deviad> :D
[05:34] <snowblink> Deviad: the only glaring omission I can see is the initrd
[05:34] <Deviad> snowblink, I just don't want to install it.
[05:34] <shock> re
[05:34] <Deviad> I mean, I don't wanna use initrd
[05:34] <Deviad> and I checked the config file
[05:34] <Deviad> ext3 is labeled as yes
[05:34] <PuGz> trey3: but i just dislike the way that lilo needs re-running after each new kernel install, and how if u get the configuration wrong.. or forget to re-run it, it gives you no possible way to boot your distro... u need a repair cd (or the install cd) of your distro... grub allows you to enter the details manually
[05:35] <Deviad> so I should be able not to use it.
[05:35] <trey3> PuGz: grub does too... just most package managers issue update-grub... whereas more lilo implementations don't   :/
[05:35] <PuGz> what does grub also do?
[05:36] <PuGz> need updating... yes
[05:36] <trey3> PuGz: require you to update config after any changes... basically what 'lilo' does...
[05:36] <PuGz> but if u forget to you arent screwed!
[05:36] <trey3> PuGz: just as screwed as with lilo  :/
[05:36] <trey3> ie... can't boot new kernel  :/
[05:37] <Deviad> ok
[05:37] <PuGz> i know it can be recovered with lilo, but its a longer process
[05:37] <Deviad> for those who thought I was just a lamer
[05:37] <Deviad> now they have the proof that in my case
[05:37] <Deviad> hdb = hd0
[05:37] <snowblink> Deviad: I think you need it if you are using ext3
[05:37] <PuGz> trey3: yeah... when u boot, if the configuration is wrong, you can do it manually at boot time to boot your pc!
[05:37] <Deviad> snowblink, are you sure?
[05:37] <PuGz> what initrd?
[05:37] <PuGz> no you dont
[05:38] <trey3> Deviad: that makes NO sense... but ok...
[05:38] <snowblink> Deviad: google for it
[05:38] <Ng> trey3: it's really quite hard to screw grub up enough that you can't boot
[05:38] <Ng> so long as the kernel is on a filesystem in your machine, grub can access it
[05:38] <Deviad> maybe
[05:38] <Deviad> I get it
[05:38] <PuGz> if you manually compile your kernel using ext3 or whatever, you dont need initrd
[05:38] <snowblink> Deviad: from what I can see it's needed
[05:38] <Deviad> tell me how to set / and /boot
[05:38] <Ng> and its built in console makes it pretty easy
[05:38] <Deviad> wait wait
[05:38] <Deviad> I got the clue
[05:39] <Deviad> tell me how to set / and /boot
[05:39] <Deviad> in fstab
[05:39] <Deviad> I'm sure it is that.
[05:39] <PuGz> trey3: The weekly DVD's that are made... are they basically the same as the weekly cd's which have the install and some packages... but with the dvd just having more packages?
[05:40] <Deviad> can you plz tell me how to set /boot and / in fstab?
[05:40] <trey3> Deviad: no, because the errors you're getting are related to GRUB, its not getting as far as mounting...
[05:40] <trey3> PuGz: no idea... I don't use the DVD's  :/
[05:41] <trey3> PuGz: I really don't recommend trying either though... lots of issues according to the report.html files...
[05:42] <snowblink> Deviad: can I ask why you don't want initrd?
[05:44] <PuGz> trey3: so how you recommend i get hoary? the current array?
[05:44] <snowblink> trey3: I wonder how I can make windows always on top...
[05:45] <trey3> PuGz: daily iso  :/
[05:45] <trey3> snowblink: right click "On Top"...
[05:45] <PuGz> ok
[05:45] <Lathiat> snowblink: click the icon in the top left, its an option
[05:45] <trey3> or what Lathiat said... same thing...
[05:45] <snowblink> trey3, Lathiat: I want it to remember that settig though
[05:45] <PuGz> i am also on dialup... i think i might have to take my pc to uni to download the stuff
[05:46] <snowblink> I hope Deviad worked out that he needs initrd since he's likely got ext3 as a module...
[05:46] <trey3> snowblink: file an enhancement to gnome bugzilla?
[05:46] <snowblink> trey3: heh - I might just wait for kubuntu...
[05:47] <Ng> you can control how windows appear with something called devilspie, but it's a real pita to configure
[05:47] <trey3> snowblink: uhh... ok  :/
[05:47] <snowblink> trey3: I've been spoiled by KDE apparently
[05:47] <trey3> snowblink: what do you think kubuntu will be?
[05:48] <snowblink> trey3: broke vim last time
[05:48] <trey3> snowblink: huh? enless you install kvim, kde won't even touch vim  :/
[05:49] <bitfoo> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:49] <bitfoo> [OS]  Debian testing/unstable (2.6.10-2-686) :: [Uptime]  14:17 :: [CPU]  2-Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz @ 1700MHz (2048 KB/0% load) :: [Memory]  263M Used, 1011M Total (74% Free) :: [Video]  RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]  (1280x800/24 Bit/) :: [Disk]  5.99G Used, 55.04G Total (84% Free) :: [Network]  Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet (eth1: 55.17M In, 4.60M Out)
[05:49] <bitfoo> :|
[05:50] <snowblink> trey3: I installed KDE. I think apt-get kde
[05:50] <snowblink> trey3: but was miffed when I typed vi and it said command not found
[05:50] <trey3> snowblink: yeah... that drags down half the archive  :/
[05:50] <Stinky_Taco> WOW! I just noticed GNOPPIX is now Ubuntu hoary :)  What a neat project.. Thanks guys!
[05:50] <Stinky_Taco> 64 bit too!
[05:50] <trey3> snowblink: 'apt-get install kde-core' and don't install kvim  :/
[05:52] <wm_eddie> I'm talking to you from the new kiosk for the Language media center in the University of pittsburgh.
[05:52] <snowblink> trey3: will give that a go. :)
[05:52] <Pluk> bitfoo, dont you have powernowd installed?
[05:52] <wm_eddie> An old G3 running Ubuntu
[05:52] <Pluk> cuz your cpu is running 1.7Ghz on 0% load
[05:52] <Pluk> while it could run 600mhz
[05:53] <bitfoo> hmm
[05:53] <bitfoo> i guess not
[05:53] <bitfoo> powernowd is already the newest version.
[05:53] <bitfoo> :/
[05:53] <Pluk> is it started?
[05:54] <Lathiat> perhaps your cpu doesn tsupport scaling?
[05:54] <bitfoo> modprobe powernowd ?
[05:54] <Lathiat> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/affected_cpus
[05:55] <Lathiat> hrm /proc/cpuinfo is broken while scaling
[05:55] <Lathiat> like it thinks by cpu is at 418mhz and thats not right, bogomips are wrong too. hrm.
[05:55] <bitfoo> why i guess it isnt scaling :|
[05:55] <bitfoo> it should though :|
[05:55] <Lathiat> bitfoo: hrm?
[05:56] <bitfoo> cpuinfo shows it at 1700 :(
[05:56] <Lathiat> bitfoo: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq
[05:56] <bitfoo> that doesnt do anything :?
[05:56] <bitfoo> no such file or directory :|
[05:56] <Pluk> sudo powernowd
[05:56] <Pluk> what does that give?
[05:56] <bitfoo> lots of errors :|
[05:57] <bitfoo> couldn't open file x 3
[05:57] <bitfoo> couldn't open govn's file for writing: No such file or directory
[05:57] <bitfoo> Couldn't get per-cpu data: Illegal seek
[05:57] <bitfoo> PowerNowd encountered and error and could not start.
[05:57] <bitfoo> :/
[05:57] <Pluk> powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.90, (c) 2003-2004 John Clemens
[05:57] <Pluk> powernowd: Found 1 cpu:
[05:57] <Pluk> powernowd:   cpu0: 600Mhz - 1700Mhz
[05:57] <Pluk> should look like this
[05:58] <Pluk> do you have an asus laptop?
[05:58] <bitfoo> yes
[05:58] <Pluk> educated guess
[05:58] <bitfoo> i have everything it says i should have :/
[05:58] <stvn> bitfoo: warty or haory?
[05:58] <stvn> Pluk: heh
[05:58] <bitfoo> 2.6 kernel, sysfs mounted, and cpufreq driver loaded :O
[05:58] <bitfoo> warty
[05:58] <Pluk> ive read that asus isnt showing its scaling freqs correctly
[05:58] <bitfoo> ahh so maybe it is scaling though
[05:59] <bitfoo> im pretty sure it scales independent of the os?
[05:59] <stvn> bitfoo: it didn't work in warty for me either, but in hoary it works on my asus laptop
[05:59] <bitfoo> :|
[05:59] <stvn> my batterystatus doesn't work though
[05:59] <bitfoo> which laptop do you have :|
[05:59] <stvn> bitfoo: M6000Ne
[05:59] <bitfoo> me too
[05:59] <bitfoo> you have to patch the kernel or fix the dsdt table :|
[06:00] <bitfoo> m6n.ath.cx
[06:00] <bitfoo> :|
[06:00] <Pluk> that fix is prolly on hoary then
[06:00] <bitfoo> no
[06:00] <stvn> bitfoo: yeah discovered that site, haven't bothered yet
[06:00] <bitfoo> because i think the kernel hack will break other manufacturers :/
[06:00] <bitfoo> its assus' fault :(
[06:01] <stvn> bitfoo: oh and my poweroff doesn't work properly in hoary, whereas it worked in warty (IIRC)
[06:01] <wm_eddie> asus is a name therefore it's asus's :p
[06:01] <bitfoo> yeah when i go to shutdown it wont shutdown
[06:01] <stvn> yep
[06:01] <bitfoo> it will hang on "powering down" or some crap
[06:01] <bitfoo> so them i am :(
[06:02] <stvn> bitfoo: look at the bright side: the scaling can be fixed
[06:02] <Pluk> :)
[06:02] <bitfoo> i think the scaling is independent :|
[06:02] <bitfoo> i think it works even if it says it doesnt :/
[06:02] <stvn> bitfoo: i think so
[06:03] <bitfoo> :|
[06:03] <bitfoo> other than that i like the laptop :/
[06:05] <code> can someone help me....i cant get any video or music files to play
[06:07] <code> hello??
[06:07] <jcoxon77> hello
[06:07] <code> can u help me?
[06:07] <jcoxon77> maybe whats your problem?
[06:08] <code> i cant get any video or music files to play
[06:08] <jcoxon77> okay, what programs are you trying to use?
[06:08] <code> i think one is called totem
[06:08] <wm_eddie> Anybody remember that ipv6 fix to firefox?
[06:09] <stvn> code: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:09] <jcoxon77> yup, and what are the file type you are trying to play?
[06:09] <code> i tried em all
[06:09] <code> avi, mpeg,mov
[06:09] <stvn> code: you need to enable support for mp3, avi etc
[06:09] <code> how do i do that?
[06:10] <code> could it be that my sound card isnt reconized?
[06:10] <Amaranth> code: sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins
[06:10] <stvn> code: see the page I gave
[06:10] <Amaranth> you'll need to enable universe
[06:10] <Seminole> wm_eddie: type in about:config in the browser box
[06:11] <Seminole> then filter for "ipv"..  You'll see network.dns.disableIPv6 - need to change it to "false"
[06:11] <shock> actually I got totem-xine, xine and all that concerning stuff from marillat installed... er... multiverse
[06:12] <Seminole> wm_eddie - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#disableipv6-mozilla
[06:12] <code> ok and how do i do the sudo thing?
[06:12] <wm_eddie> thanks
[06:12] <Seminole> np
[06:12] <wm_eddie> I've been searching the wiki with no luck this whole time
[06:13] <stvn> code: sudo <whateveryouwanttorun>
[06:13] <stvn> code: and the password is your own password
[06:13] <Seminole> That site is great.   One of the best tools for actualy getting my friends to consider Linux..   :)
[06:13] <code> ok so i have to goto that site d/l shit....then use the sudo?
[06:14] <stvn> code: er.. follow the instructions on that site, you need to add repositories
[06:15] <code> what is a repositorie???
[06:15] <code> sorry im really new to this
[06:17] <stvn> code: the place where you get your software from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-09-30.5359349801
[06:17] <stvn> code: and https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-20.3414506543/
[06:19] <wm_eddie> ok, now to make a session that only runs firefox.
[06:19] <wm_eddie> anyone know where I can find information on that?
[06:20] <dr_willis> hmm
[06:20] <dr_willis> on what? :P
[06:20] <tsw> any idea for a math program in linux like mathcad and matlab on windows?
[06:20] <Pluk> you prolly need to google for kiosk mode wm_eddie
[06:20] <Riddell> tsw: GNU Octave
[06:20] <tsw> Riddell: thanks Ill check that out
[06:22] <Se7h> BeatrIX Linux 2005.1 Final represents more than 19 months' work by three programmers, and input from hundreds of users. It is a Debian/Ubuntu derivative, and tracks the Ubuntu repository
[06:22] <Se7h> they even track ubuntu
[06:22] <Se7h> :D
[06:23] <CreeVal> Im going to install a new harddrive and replace the one with the Master boot record and GRUB, and of course install Windows 2000 on it... Any ideas on how to install GRUB and keep my current Ubuntu install?
[06:30] <nF3r> is ubuntu better than suse in ease of install and use ?
[06:30] <code> hey stvn??????
[06:30] <stvn> code: ?
[06:30] <code> i did that
[06:30] <code> now what
[06:30] <stvn> code: you are using synaptic?
[06:31] <code> yeah
[06:31] <shock> nF3r: dont think there is so much of a difference in usability
[06:31] <stvn> code: hit the reload button
[06:31] <shock> installation - if you get lucky ubuntu is darn easy to install
[06:31] <code> i already did
[06:31] <shock> and use... well... getting newer versions of software is alot nicer using apt
[06:32] <stvn> code: ok, install gstreamer0.8-mad and totem-xine
[06:32] <code> how do i do that?
[06:32] <stvn> code: don't worry about ubuntu-desktop being removed
[06:33] <stvn> code: search and than click on the square
[06:33] <dr_willis> hmm
[06:35] <code> ok found it
[06:35] <code> now what?
[06:35] <stvn> click on the square infront of it
[06:35] <code> mark for installation?
[06:35] <stvn> yep
[06:36] <code> it says its not installable
[06:36] <stvn> code: which one?
[06:37] <code> both
[06:37] <jono> hi all
[06:38] <stvn> code: does it give any reason?
[06:38] <code> unresolvable dependacies
[06:38] <jono> is OpenOffice 2 intended for hoary?
[06:39] <code> make sure all required repos are added and enabled
[06:39] <stvn> code: you are sure you enabled both multiverse and universe and you did not disable aything else?
[06:39] <Deviad> hello guys
[06:39] <Deviad> I'm on windows right now
[06:39] <code> i dont think
[06:40] <Deviad> I read through google that is a problem related to the kernel 2.6.8
[06:40] <Deviad> exactly the one that comes with the old ubuntu
[06:40] <Deviad> so I'm thinking to get the new hoary
[06:40] <Deviad> are you downloading gnoppix?
[06:40] <stvn> code: can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin.org?
[06:40] <tritium> jono, I don't know if that's been decided yet
[06:40] <code> should i just ebable all repos?
[06:40] <jono> tritium, oh right
[06:40] <stvn> code: that's the easiest way ;)
[06:41] <jono> tritium, when OOo 2 due for release?
[06:41] <tritium> jono, don't know that either :)
[06:41] <code> ill do that then try again
[06:41] <stvn> code: btw it's not pastebin.org but .com
[06:42] <Docta> Is there a convenient way to install swat?  I'm using the warty/universe set, but I've been getting the same version conflict (with samba) for weeks now
[06:42] <tritium> jono, but don't go reporting my ignorance on lugradio now ;)
[06:43] <jono> tritium, heh, a listener :)
[06:43] <stvn> code: i'm away now, so if you need more help, ask in general
[06:43] <tritium> jono, and an article reader
[06:43] <code> ok thanks for your help
[06:44] <jono> tritium, :)
[06:45] <Deviad> how can you install gnoppix hoary on the hard disk?
[06:45] <Docta> "swat: Depends: samba (= 3.0.7-1ubuntu6) but 3.0.7-1ubuntu6.3 is to be installed" <-- is there a nice way to get around this or am I just going to have to override the versions?
[06:46] <zAo^> who can help me on this error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control
[06:46] <zAo^> I tried to install a .deb file with dpkg -i <file.deb>
[06:46] <Deviad> Can you plz tell me how you install gnoppix on the hard drive?
[06:49] <Deviad> Can you plz tell me how you install gnoppix on the hard drive?
[06:52] <klaxnek> hi all ubuntu-ers ;) anyone knows a site with ubuntu based wallpapers?
[06:52] <tritium> jono, this is all I can find: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ChrisHalls/
[06:52] <shock> gnome-look.org has some
[06:52] <Pluk> Deviad, isnt gnoppix just a live cd without option to install it to hd?
[06:52] <zAo^> www.unbuntuforums.org
[06:52] <Soap_On_A_Roap> anybody know where I can get a program that plays either .mov or .wmv?
[06:52] <zAo^> Soap_On_A_Roap, Totem
[06:52] <Lathiat> Soap_On_A_Roap: see totem-xine
[06:52] <klaxnek> thx shok, forgot to watch that web
[06:52] <ubuntu> Soap_On_A_Roap: and codecs
[06:53] <ivar> if I have some iptables rules I want to take effect every time I boot, where's the 'ubuntu standard' place to store them ?
[06:53] <Deviad> Pluk, older versions could be installed on the HD
[06:53] <Deviad> :|
[06:53] <Deviad> :(
[06:53] <Pluk> ivar, place the script in /etc/init.d/
[06:53] <Pluk> then update-rc.d scriptname defaults
[06:53] <tritium> jono, looks like openoffice.org2 is a "Target of Opportunity" for Hoary: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals/
[06:54] <ivar> Pluk, thanks..
[06:54] <Pluk> yw
[06:54] <klaxnek> other question: in ubuntu64, when setting a 32bits chroot, all the base packages needs to be installed?
[06:55] <Soap_On_A_Roap> I have totem
[06:55] <Soap_On_A_Roap> but where could I get the codecs?
[06:55] <jmhodges> ok, init.d/dbus-1 is giving me an error about a missing system.conf (this is in hoary).. i've tried reinstallation, but it seems that the initscript for dbus is not installed when i reinstall
[06:56] <Soap_On_A_Roap> I have totem
[06:56] <Soap_On_A_Roap> but where could I get the codecs?
[06:56] <jmhodges> Soap_On_A_Roap: check the wiki, and stop repeateing questions
[06:57] <pielorus> Hi everyone. Can someone please tell me what the minimum system reqs for Ubuntu are?
[06:57] <jmhodges> pielorus: you'll want 2 gigs to install the base system though and a moderate amount of RAM to handle gnome well
[06:58] <MeMa|Sorcerer> hallo
[06:58] <Pluk> hiya MeMa|Sorcerer
[06:58] <pielorus> how much is moderate 128 MB? or 256 MB? what kind of CPU will I need?
[06:59] <jmhodges> pielorus: 128 MB can handle it, with some swap
[06:59] <jmhodges> i put it on my lil bro's computer, and he's running something godawful... 450 MHz or some such? can't remember
[06:59] <jmhodges> one sec
[07:00] <jmhodges> bah, itll run on most anything
[07:00] <pielorus> nice
[07:00] <jmhodges> you'll want swap of course..
[07:00] <pielorus> 'cause I'm looking to buy a laptop to run it on and basically just screw around a bit
[07:00] <nF3r> does anyone know a link for the latest stable iso ubuntu ?
[07:01] <pielorus> thanks alot, cheers
[07:04] <pierre_> install problem on a 200mhz pentium with atapi cd-rom, hangs at loading ide-cd module
[07:08] <Cindux> roare
[07:08] <Cindux> Does anyone know by chance how much ram Ubuntu uses on its own
[07:08] <Cindux> by default without me having anythung open ?
[07:09] <cowbud> why ohh why is bugs.ubuntu.com not setup?!
[07:09] <cowbud> what ist his bugzilla nonsense
[07:09] <cowbud> mooo
[07:09] <pybe-lappy> cowbud: it is
[07:09] <website> how to change language to entire the system?
[07:10] <cowbud> pybe-lappy: bugzilla.ubuntu.com is
[07:10] <Lathiat> cowbud: you want http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[07:10] <raydogg> nautilis can't display samba shares ?
[07:10] <Boohbah> what is the projected hoary release date?
[07:11] <pybe-lappy> cowbud: you want something different?
[07:11] <cowbud> pybe-lappy: yah I wants just bugs :)
[07:11] <cowbud> ala debian style
[07:11] <cowbud> and gnome
[07:11] <Cindux> hm
[07:11] <pybe-lappy> cowbud: is it just the name or a different system?
[07:11] <cowbud> different name
[07:11] <cowbud> :)
[07:11] <code> can someone tell me how to play mp3's???????
[07:11] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: search the wikki
[07:12] <Boohbah> Our next release, sometime early 2005, will be roughly 5.04.
[07:12] <cowbud> code: www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:12] <Boohbah> pybe-lappy: does that mean april?
[07:12] <pybe-lappy> cowbud: add bugs.blah to your /etc/hosts file as an alias for bugzilla.blah
[07:12] <cowbud> pybe-lappy: NO
[07:12] <cowbud> haha
[07:12] <pybe-lappy> lol
[07:12] <raydogg> code apt-get install xmms
[07:12] <cowbud> does ubuntu's website have a equiv to packages.debian.org ?
[07:12] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: means what it says
[07:13] <cowbud> so I can see the patch they use for their packageS?
[07:13] <Boohbah> pybe-lappy: so warty is the only release for now?
[07:13] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: yep
[07:13] <varla> hey how can I install the xine-lib
[07:13] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: hoary is in beta or whatever
[07:14] <Boohbah> pybe-lappy: i can get the latest gnome with warty, right?
[07:14] <pybe-lappy> varla: apt-get install xine or xine-ui or totem-xine
[07:14] <encryptio> varla: install xine-ui. it installs xine-lib as well afaik
[07:14] <klaxnek> cowbud: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ? Inside http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[07:14] <website> how to change the language of the whole system
[07:14] <website> ?
[07:14] <code> so in synaptic i searched for xmms and do i just use the one that says xmms?
[07:14] <code> theres a bunch
[07:14] <pybe-lappy> Boohbah: maybe by adding the hoary repos or something
[07:15] <raydogg> well
[07:15] <varla> encrypto: I did that and the xine-lib are not included I Think
[07:15] <raydogg> just open a console and type apt-get install xmms
[07:15] <raydogg> or sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:16] <encryptio> varla: why do  you say that?
[07:16] <code> ok
[07:16] <code> ill try that if this doesnt work
[07:16] <raydogg> k
[07:17] <varla> encrypto:I am trying to play a dvd with encryptions and it is looking through the another lib that I can't write the name of right now
[07:17] <encryptio> varla: libdvdcss2, right?
[07:17] <code> so that is a program right?
[07:17] <varla> encrypto: yes
[07:17] <raydogg> yeah
[07:17] <raydogg> its like winamp
[07:17] <raydogg> a clone
[07:17] <code> so now how do i make my mp3's play in that?
[07:17] <raydogg> for X
[07:17] <raydogg> right click on an mp3
[07:17] <raydogg> a mp3
[07:18] <raydogg> properties
[07:18] <raydogg> the open with tab
[07:18] <raydogg> click add ( if xmms isn't already in the list )
[07:18] <encryptio> varla: if you run xine from a terminal and try to play the dvd, it'll tell you the path to a shell script. run that script with sudo, and quit and relaunch xine.
[07:18] <raydogg> type xmms in the box and hit "add"
[07:18] <raydogg> then click the radio button
[07:18] <raydogg> note that it won't play mp3s from a network share for some reason
[07:19] <varla> encrytio:I ran xine from a terminal and it freezes looking for the css plugins for region 1 so I don't get to a shell script
[07:21] <code> it says my sound card isnt working right....may be bloacked....configured
[07:21] <code> ???
[07:22] <weblin> hi all, I think i've broke my apt install :S
[07:22] <encryptio> varla: check this out: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:22] <varla> encryptio:ok
[07:22] <weblin> i'm running warty, but i installed hoary mono packages, and now I'm getting crashes when I try to use synaptic
[07:23] <weblin> i can run synaptic, but when i click to install a package it just closes
[07:23] <encryptio> my my my. mixing hoary and warty. that's why i reloaded the last 2 times...
[07:23] <weblin> damn
[07:24] <encryptio> weblin: can you still use apt from the terminal?
[07:24] <weblin> encryptio, yeah i can
[07:24] <encryptio> weblin: have you tried removing and installing (reinstalling) synaptic?
[07:24] <asdfasdfasdf> "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" <-- What does that means
[07:24] <weblin> hmm, no. i'll give it a try
[07:26] <prego> just for curiosity... is there any way to perform an ubuntu network install (share the CD via nfs or ftp)?
[07:26] <iRocha> Hello
[07:27] <weblin> encryptio, still crashing after a reinstall
[07:27] <iRocha> Can I install Ubuntu by ftp?
[07:27] <prego> iRocha, just have asked that!! ;-)
[07:27] <iRocha> :)
[07:27] <weblin> i'll just try installing it from sources
[07:27] <prego> iRocha, no yet an answer
[07:27] <iRocha> prego, thanks :)
[07:28] <prego> iRocha, having problems with the CD?
[07:28] <iRocha> exactly
[07:28] <asdfasdfasdf> "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" <-- What does that means?
[07:28] <iRocha> prego: "Can't mount CD" or something like that.
[07:28] <weblin> prego, iRocha, i dont think you can install ubuntu by ftp. but you can install debian, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:28] <prego> iRocha, when??
[07:28] <encryptio> weblin: one more thing...
[07:29] <prego> weblin, thanks for the answer
[07:29] <iRocha> prego, after choosing the language and keyboard mapping
[07:29] <prego> iRocha, did you check the md5sum prior to burning?
[07:29] <iRocha> weblin, that will upgrade debian to ubuntu?
[07:29] <asdfasdfasdf> What does this means: "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS" ?
[07:29] <iRocha> prego, they are the original ubuntu cd's
[07:29] <Zindar> any of the canonical guys here?
[07:30] <Boohbah> asdfasdfasdf: your BIOS doesn't support that large of a disk
[07:30] <cmarqu> Hi all.
[07:30] <iRocha> prego, they worked at home, but not in the computer i'm trying to install it now
[07:30] <asdfasdfasdf> But, last time it works fine
[07:30] <encryptio> weblin: your synaptic problem... try removing /root/.synaptic
[07:30] <prego> iRocha, :-((. In my case, I had to dump the iso and burn it again with 1x so the installation seems to be working right now in an old machine...
[07:30] <weblin> encryptio, i'll have a go
[07:30] <prego> iRocha, but this is not the case of the original CDs!!
[07:31] <shock> hello again *sing*
[07:31] <weblin> encryptio, no luck. damn
[07:31] <iRocha> prego, the original warty live cd works fine, but the latest hoary live cd doesn't work too, very strange.
[07:31] <prego> iRocha, then, just install Warthy and upgrade to Hoary, isn't it?
[07:32] <encryptio> weblin: i'm out of ideas
[07:32] <iRocha> prego, i can't install warty, only the live cd runs.
[07:32] <prego> iRocha, oh, wait, sorry
[07:32] <weblin> encryptio, cheers anyway. I'll try the latest sources
[07:33] <iRocha> prego, i guess this friend of mine won't have ubuntu installed so soon :(
[07:33] <Lathiat> iRocha: define doesnt work
[07:33] <prego> iRocha, he he. I'm not an expert... but the debian way might solve the problem as weblin says
[07:34] <iRocha> it boots, i enter the language and keyboard mapping then it says it can't find the cdrom
[07:35] <spiral> hmmm... Anyone here knows about smart battery gestion in ubuntu ?
[07:35] <prego> iRocha, did you check the messages on console 3rd or four (ALT+F3, ALT+F4,...)?
[07:37] <weblin> encryptio, building the latest sources works now :)
[07:38] <prego> anyone has installed glademm in ubuntu?
[07:39] <tasuki> hello, does anyone have problems with azureus in ubuntu?
[07:39] <weblin> tasuki, works ok for me. whats up?
[07:40] <rob_m> hellooo
[07:40] <encryptio> yo
[07:40] <encryptio> .google test
[07:40] <encryptio> damnit
[07:40] <rob_m> hey man have you tried out libflash for gplflash from the hoary repos?
[07:41] <encryptio> nope
[07:41] <Gigs> are there no seeds for the torrents?
[07:42] <encryptio> i don't do much with hoary, i'm warty with a little testing on the side
[07:42] <rob_m> it hardcrashed firefox on my amd64
[07:42] <Gigs> I tried several of the normal mirrors, all were very slow, now trying the torrents, and it's been sitting there for 15 minutes with no seeds
[07:43] <rob_m> has anyone heard of or used skype?
[07:43] <prego> rob_m, I did, in SuSE
[07:43] <snowblink> rob_m: yes
[07:43] <rob_m> is it worth trying out?
[07:44] <snowblink> rob_m: definitely
[07:44] <prego> rob_m, is free as in beer :-P
[07:44] <klaym> is it better than gaim?
[07:44] <rob_m> yes :-(
[07:44] <snowblink> klaym: It's voice over IP
[07:44] <klaym> oh
[07:44] <rob_m> klaym: i will still live by gaim
[07:45] <klaym> I thought it was a messenger thing
[07:45] <prego> snowblink, did you alien the rpm to install it into ubuntu?
[07:45] <snowblink> klaym: you can also IM
[07:45] <klaym> ok
[07:45] <snowblink> prego: I followed the instructions on ubuntuguide
[07:45] <tasuki> weblin: azureus says: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/swt/internal/Library
[07:45] <klaym> so it's like messenger with voice?
[07:45] <prego> snowblink, sweet. Where is ubuntuguide?
[07:45] <rob_m> just one of those webphone services
[07:45] <klaym> that might get awful when you're very popular :D
[07:46] <rob_m> if you pay money they will make calles outside of the web too
[07:46] <snowblink> klaym: primarily voice, but can dial real phones too
[07:46] <weblin> tasuki: what jre are you using?
[07:46] <snowblink> prego: see topic
[07:46] <tasuki> weblin: I tried both 1.5 and 1.4
[07:47] <weblin> tasuki: have you set the JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="" variable in the azureus startup script?
[07:47] <prego> snowblink, thank you very much ;-))
[07:47] <tasuki> weblin: hmm, no :)
[07:47] <snowblink> prego: np
[07:48] <weblin> tasuki: i've installed java into /opt/java/, so in the azurureus script i just put JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="/opt/java/bin/"
[07:48] <weblin> tasuki: try it with the path to your 1.5 jdk
[07:49] <Zomb_> hi
[07:49] <tasuki> weblin: I also tried to run it as $java -jar Azureus2.jar
[07:49] <Zomb_> who's the cdrtools maintainer for Ubuntu?
[07:49] <tasuki> weblin: it had worked before :-(
[07:49] <Zomb_> daniels: you?
[07:50] <occy> has anyone here bought a new computer lately?  I'm looking for something that I can stick Ubuntu on.
[07:50] <weblin> tasuki: weird. what does "java" point to in your path? did you set the JAVA_HOME env variable and add it to the system path?
[07:50] <drnobes> Hi all.  Here's a quick question.  My wireless networking is working, after I compiled and installed the driver, but the link monitor applet is not showing it.  It's set to the correct device (ra0) but it shows no connection.
[07:50] <ZellSF> Totem won't play video? why?
[07:50] <Pit> stairs?
[07:51] <snowblink> ZellSF: you've installed the codecs?
[07:51] <ZellSF> some of them
[07:51] <ZellSF> which ones do I need?
[07:51] <snowblink> ZellSF: depends what you're trying to play
[07:52] <ZellSF> Everything, Totem doesn't display any kind of video
[07:52] <ZellSF> works fine in vlc
[07:52] <snowblink> drnobes: you're sure there is traffic?
[07:52] <Stefano> italian ? ;D
[07:52] <drnobes> snowblink, I'm using it right now.
[07:52] <ZellSF> ...?
[07:53] <rob_m> damn totem for crashing at my porn
[07:53] <tasuki> weblin: I do not have JAVA_HOME variable, but all other java apps run without problems
[07:53] <mxpxpod> is there a flash plugin for powerpc?
[07:53] <mxpxpod> that doesn't crash firefox?
[07:54] <weblin> tasuki: not sure whats wrong. have you tried with setting the path in the azureus script?
[07:54] <snowblink> ZellSF: maybe check ubuntuguide for the codecs - check you have them all
[07:54] <occy>  * Entries close on January 31st, 2005.
[07:54] <richx> ah, nice - some ubuntu channels ;-)
[07:54] <richx> hello
[07:54] <tasuki> weblin: the path should point to java/bin directory?
[07:54] <occy> why do I always find this crap out after it's over with.
[07:54] <occy> heh
[07:54] <rob_m> hello richx
[07:54] <weblin> tasuki: yeah
[07:54] <richx> hello to the world!
[07:55] <richx> is anybody speaking german?
[07:55] <weblin> ZellSF: have you installed totem-xine? i dont know if totem-gstreamer(default) supports win32 codecs
[07:55] <tasuki> weblin: still the same :-/
[07:55] <ZellSF> oh, good point.
[07:55] <weblin> tasuki: weird. try removing the azureus dir and reinstall it
[07:56] <richx> no?
[07:56] <tasuki> weblin: ok :)
[07:56] <weblin> tasuki: let us know how it goes.
[07:59] <dbt`veritas> how many of you still boot into windows?
[07:59] <tasuki> weblin: ohh, I am silly, I am *really* sorry for wasting your time, and thanks for trying to help me
[07:59] <dbt`veritas> from time to to time at least
[07:59] <weblin> tasuki: hehe thats ok :)
[07:59] <Zindar> dbt: lot's of people do to play games
[07:59] <Zindar> I do to play poker :)
[07:59] <Lathiat> tasuki: everyone has bad days :)
[07:59] <Zindar> that's it
[08:00] <ZellSF> How do I get Gnome to list videos as thumbnailS?
[08:01] <weblin> ZellSF: nautilus-media
[08:01] <weblin> i think
[08:01] <wasabi_> Totem should just do it
[08:01] <ZellSF> Well, on Mandrake, the it showed thumbnails by itself, so I have no idea how to do it :/
[08:02] <ZellSF> ...?
[08:02] <Lathiat> ZellSF: just works for me, hrm
[08:02] <weblin> you might need to restart nautilus once you've installed totem-xine
[08:02] <wasabi_> what videos types?
[08:02] <ZellSF> different types.
[08:02] <ZellSF> I've already restarted
[08:04] <weblin> ZellSF: the nautilus-media packages says it has:   gst-thumbnail: thumbnails videos for nautilus
[08:04] <ZellSF> ok
[08:04] <ZellSF> Not that I'm going to use Totem anyways, since it likes drawing random blue stuff at video output :/
[08:04] <shock> my totem runs like a charm
[08:05] <shock> except for wmv files
[08:05] <Ribs> you have wmv files?
[08:05] <Ribs> shame on you
[08:05] <weblin> gstreamer can play wmv now..in cvs i think
[08:05] <ZellSF> I can only view mvoies fullscreen, or I get blue lines or something
[08:05] <ZellSF> And 1x looks... not nice.
[08:05] <ZellSF> :/
[08:05] <Ribs> sounds like overlay isn't working properly
[08:06] <ZellSF> And is there a way to fix that?
[08:06] <Ribs> ZellSF: It's likley to be a hardware problem
[08:07] <Ribs> something isn't behaving properly
[08:07] <ZellSF> damn
[08:07] <Ribs> you could try it without overlay
[08:07] <Ribs> dunno if you can turn that off in totem
[08:07] <ZellSF> I don't think so :/
[08:07] <Ribs> or try another player
[08:07] <Ribs> it *could* be a software problem
[08:07] <Ribs> but I doubt it
[08:07] <weblin> ZellSF: totem-xine gets it's options from ~/.gnome2/totem_config - try setting it in there
[08:08] <dbt`veritas> anyone here have wine or cedega and play CS 1.6?
[08:14] <iRocha> prego, anything yet?
[08:15] <iRocha> prego, i wasn't here
[08:17] <rob_m> hey whats the address for the news server again?
[08:17] <rob_m> the ubuntu news group server?
[08:18] <no0tic> on hoary, fade out from screen lock doesn't work
[08:19] <no0tic> what is the problem?
[08:21] <Orbo> help with apt repositories?
[08:21] <rob_m> oh i finally found it its gmain.linux.ubuntu
[08:21] <Orbo> Which repositories do I need to get the latest versionso fhings such as xchat for warty release?
[08:22] <Orbo> versions of things*
[08:22] <Orbo> gotta run
[08:22] <rob_m> the latest versions are kept for hoary
[08:22] <no0tic> Orbo: backports
[08:22] <Orbo> right thats what it is
[08:22] <Orbo> which ftp is it?
[08:23] <rob_m> same one, just change the distro name
[08:23] <no0tic> go to bpubuntu.sourceforge.net
[08:23] <Orbo> got in nm
[08:24] <no0tic> Orbo: no, I'm wrong
[08:24] <no0tic> Orbo: I don't remember it
[08:26] <Guardiann> good afternoon
[08:27] <rob_m> man i cant connect to gmane.linux.ubuntu
[08:28] <Guardiann> I have discovered an interesting problem with the last updates I made this morning ( I am using Hoary) up untill this am my printer has worked great. Now when i attempt to print a test page through gnome it wont print. When I reboot the test page prints any ideas ??
[08:30] <AndyR> lo ppl
[08:30] <Guardiann> hello AndyR
[08:31] <Guardiann> damm its this transparent text
[08:32] <Guardiann> what a neat option
[08:32] <iRocha> Anyone had problems installing ubuntu because of a "can't mount cd" message?
[08:33] <dbt`veritas> nope
[08:33] <sabdfl> iRocha: do you have SATA drives, and an ATA CDROM?
[08:33] <dbt`veritas> did you dl the iso?
[08:36] <cowbud> wow it makes sense that I sohuld have to download 1 meg worth of text data to submit a bug
[08:38] <klaym> it's the price you have to pay to make ubuntu a better OS :) it's all logical!
[08:38] <cowbud> klaym yah well if I was a modem user i'd just not bother
[08:39] <klaym> me neither
[08:40] <rempresent> i accidently deleted my wastebasket from my panel how do i get it back
[08:40] <klaym> damm you, you're now wasted!
[08:40] <plagerism> what kernel version does warty use??
[08:41] <linux_mafia> anyone else finding hal does not start in hoary? i can see the problem but im not sure which package is at fault
[08:41] <Guardiann> system tools configuration editor  apps   nautilus  desktop
[08:41] <khinester> hello
[08:42] <Guardiann> hi
[08:42] <khinester> i have setup ubuntu and apache, but i am having difficulty in setting up WebDAV and FTP
[08:42] <tux_> hi
[08:42] <khinester> to access and change pages
[08:42] <sabdfl> rempresent: right click on the panel
[08:43] <sabdfl> add to panel
[08:43] <sabdfl> near the bottom: wastebasket
[08:43] <sabdfl> voila
[08:43] <cowbud> how do you attach files in this badness called bugzilla?
[08:44] <cowbud> I am at the commit a bug page and I see nothing for Attach file..
[08:44] <rempresent> ahh
[08:44] <rempresent> found it, it is called a trash applet
[08:44] <rempresent> thanks
[08:44] <khinester> i have enabled the dav_ modules
[08:44] <khinester> but still no luck
[08:45] <Dethread> moin
[08:46] <iRocha> sabdfl, SATA drives... i don't think so.
[08:46] <iRocha> ATA cdroms i have no ideia.
[08:48] <iRocha> sabdfl, if i have an ATA cdrom, can i install ubuntu?
[08:49] <khinester> how do you open the WebDAV on UBUNTU?
[08:49] <Slaven> I have a problem with XMMS in Ubuntu.
[08:50] <sabdfl> iRocha: yes
[08:50] <zazeem> can someone help me
[08:50] <Slaven> it's been like this since I did an imbecile apt-get update && apt-get upgrade with an unstable repository added to sources.list.
[08:50] <iRocha> sabdfl, how? floppy drivers?
[08:50] <sabdfl> iRocha: there is a known glitch for Warty on some systems that have SATA drives, and a PATA cd rom
[08:50] <sabdfl> the solution is a little funky
[08:50] <Slaven> since then, XMMS sometimes complains that sound drivers can't be found/another program is blocking the output.
[08:51] <sabdfl> during the install, before it tries to detect the cdrom, you need to switch to VT2 and manually modprobe the ide-cd modules
[08:51] <Guardiann> zazeem hello whats up today?
[08:51] <Slaven> other times it works fine but freezes every now and then.
[08:51] <sabdfl> search bugzilla for the exact procedure
[08:51] <iRocha> ok, thanks
[08:51] <zazeem> i get this error when i start enemy territory game, ----- R_Init -----
[08:51] <zazeem> ...loading libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display
[08:51] <zazeem> ...setting mode 6: 1024 768
[08:51] <zazeem> Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2
[08:51] <zazeem> XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized
[08:51] <zazeem> XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768
[08:51] <zazeem> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[08:51] <zazeem> why does it paste that many lines?
[08:51] <zazeem> ant it be one line?
[08:51] <iRocha> sabdfl, bye dinner time now
[08:52] <zazeem> thats error
[08:52] <zazeem> sup guardiann :)
[08:52] <Guardiann> every time you paste that it floods
[08:52] <zazeem> i know why though it used to not
[08:52] <Guardiann> isnt that the same error you have had for a few days?
[08:52] <zazeem> yes
[08:53] <francis> Hi everyone
[08:53] <zazeem> hoping the same guys are on that heped me last weekend
[08:53] <Guardiann> hello
[08:53] <zazeem> i had it fixed  but reinstalled
[08:53] <francis> Does anyone know of a way that I can change the partition of /home without re-installing?
[08:53] <Guardiann> and you dont remember the fix?
[08:53] <khinester> francis perhaps you can ln -s the home dir
[08:54] <_axel> hi, i tried setting the RenderAccel and NvAGP options in xorg.conf to use acceleration in the desktop but i get the following message in dmesg output: NVRM: not using NVAGP, AGPGART is loaded!!
[08:54] <_axel> wtf is that?
[08:54] <tarzeau> does xorg also have setxkbmap ?
[08:54] <francis> khinester, hmm, that's a good idea. Thanks.
[08:54] <khinester> np
[08:56] <Slaven> tarzeau: yes.
[08:56] <francis> Ubuntu so far seems great :D
[08:56] <francis> not quite at home yet without KDE though; downloading. =)
[08:56] <lordan> _axel, try unloading agpart
[08:58] <_axel> lordan: agpart seems to be in use by sis_agp
[08:58] <Slaven> hm
[08:58] <Slaven> creepy fact:
[08:59] <Slaven> it's only when I start mp3s from nautilus that I get the error with an occupied output - when I run xmms <songname> from the commandline, it works perfectly!
[08:59] <lordan> hmm... kde..
[08:59] <tarzeau> Slaven: do you know where the files/data is with all keymaps that setxkbmap understands? not xlibs-data, is it?
[08:59] <lordan> i do miss one thing from kde
[08:59] <danil1> Slaven: have you tried "lsof /dev/dsp"?
[09:00] <Slaven> tarzeau: no, sorry, very new to debian myself.
[09:00] <Slaven> coming from gentoo.
[09:00] <lordan> fish://user@server actually works
[09:00] <Slaven> danil1: same error running from nautilus, no difference running from commandline
[09:00] <lordan> and so does samba
[09:01] <Slaven> maybe I should just reboot.
[09:01] <lordan> nautilus + networking == bleech
[09:01] <danil1> lordan: just install Konqueror
[09:02] <Slaven> ok, reboot, then.
[09:03] <_axel> gah, dunno what's going on but since i upgraded to hoary, fonts look total crap in X
[09:03] <zazeem> we got like 2 new grapes in our school
[09:03] <lordan> danill, don't think so
[09:03] <_axel> i've tried playing with the settings in preferences->fonts but i still get ugly looking antialiasing and some characters even appear chopped
[09:03] <sampsa> anyboyd know why vncserver wouldnt be available throuhg apt-get?
[09:03] <danil1> _axel: what do you mean? Have you tried "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" ?
[09:03] <lordan> i want to keep kde completely off
[09:03] <lordan> _axel u have 2 video cards?
[09:04] <lordan> but if the kde ui is cleaned up I'll have a look again
[09:04] <danil1> lordan: I know what you mean... It's much more cleaner when you use only one DE and not a mix of Many
[09:04] <_axel> lordan: i have one video card, and btw dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig just totally hosed my system for 5 seconds
[09:05] <hitu> how do i enable/disable firewall ? :/
[09:05] <danil1> hitu: there's no firewall, since by default there are no open ports
[09:05] <hitu> danil1: i aint able to dcc send anyone :)
[09:06] <hitu> what else could be the problem
[09:06] <hitu> i m able to receive though
[09:06] <_axel> i'll re-login brb
[09:07] <danil1> hitu: hmm... I don't know. Maybe some kind of proxy/router/hardware thing is preventing you to receive incoming connections?
[09:08] <hitu> danil1: cant be .. i had same kind of problems on FC3 .. i just added the port address to my firewall and enabled it
[09:08] <hitu> and my dcc send's were workin again
[09:09] <Guardiann> hitu i think thats what danill was saying by default there are no open ports on ubuntu
[09:09] <hitu> okay
[09:10] <danil1> Guardiann: but if a port is opened, it should receive connections
[09:10] <hitu> how do i disable Clock Sync. thats on the startup
[09:10] <Guardiann> danil1 he does receive
[09:10] <danil1> hitu: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[09:10] <hitu> kind of hangs my machine for a minute or two
[09:10] <Guardiann> he cant send
[09:10] <hitu> yah i can receive ..  cant send :P
[09:10] <francis> Hi. Where could I go to change display settings? Normally detects my Monitor as Samsung SyncMaster (it is), but it works better with the "Generic" option... In Fedora KDE it was something like Settings > Display, but don't see that around here.
[09:10] <danil1> Guardiann: er... sorry :-/
[09:10] <_axel> hmm, fonts still look crap
[09:10] <hitu> aah never been able to use Sudo
[09:10] <Guardiann> np :)
[09:10] <hitu> whats the password for it
[09:11] <danil1> hitu: your own :)
[09:11] <hitu> i did change the passwd for su
[09:11] <hitu> oh cool
[09:11] <hitu> lol
[09:11] <Guardiann> :)
[09:11] <snowblink> hi trying out ACPI suspend to RAM. It suspends, but has problems coming out. Any pointers?
[09:11] <hitu> so now that clock sync wont bug me again right ? :P
[09:11] <danil1> hitu: su -> enter root password (you need to set it first, and you did). sudo -> your password (cool!)
[09:12] <danil1> hitu: aye
[09:12] <hitu> okay cool \m/
[09:12] <hitu> now back to compiling kernel :|
[09:12] <Guardiann> I have discovered an interesting problem with the last updates I made this morning ( I am using Hoary) up untill this am my printer has worked great. Now when i attempt to print a test page through gnome it wont print. When I reboot the test page prints any ideas ??
[09:12] <hitu> getting a really bad error
[09:13] <|QuaD-> Guardiann: thats interesting?
[09:13] <Slaven> The problem persisted after reboot, but I managed to script my way out of it.
[09:13] <hitu> VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" on unknown block(0,0) on my upgrade of kernel to 2.6.11-rc1
[09:13] <scizzo> Guardiann: what does the logs tell you?
[09:13] <Slaven> Which is weird.
[09:13] <Slaven> But I'm just glad it works.
[09:13] <zazeem> can someone help me
[09:13] <zazeem> XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[09:13] <hitu> well not the kind of topic i should discuss in here anyway :P
[09:13] <Guardiann> no errors test print just sits and waits
[09:13] <hitu> ehehe zazeem u still havin probs with ur X
[09:13] <hitu> :P
[09:13] <scizzo> Guardiann: /var/log/something?
[09:13] <danil1> snowblink: there's something in the wiki...
[09:13] <zazeem> yes :'(
[09:13] <scizzo> Guardiann: I mean those logs
[09:14] <zazeem> no one wants to help
[09:14] <zazeem> :|
[09:14] <Guardiann> :)
[09:14] <hitu> zazeem: maybe no body knows about it
[09:14] <zazeem> they do
[09:14] <scizzo> zazeem: take it easy....
[09:14] <snowblink> danili: I've read the SuspendHOWTO, but no go on coming out of a suspend
[09:14] <hitu> lol
[09:14] <Slaven> would help if I knew.
[09:14] <zazeem> what?
[09:14] <zazeem> lol
[09:14] <scizzo> zazeem: it takes time to answer also
[09:14] <zazeem> i know what it was
[09:14] <Slaven> myself I can't even get cedega to work :P
[09:14] <danil1> snowblink: search for suspend in the website, you should find some pages
[09:15] <Slaven> but, I was wondering, is there a guide on how to setup a bootsplash with Ubuntu?
[09:15] <zazeem> i need to edit my cfg that has resolutions at login screen
[09:15] <zazeem> delete the high ones
[09:15] <danil1> Slaven: how did you solve?
[09:15] <zazeem> dunno what one
[09:16] <Guardiann> hmmm looks as though it detects the printer fine
[09:16] <Slaven> danil1: I wrote a small python script that ran the command the way I would run it from commandline. It though that's how nautilus would run it too, but guess I was wrong.
[09:17] <danil1> snowblink: have you tried with HoaryPMResults? Are you listed?
[09:17] <liquid> whats the command to move one folder to another one in the terminal?
[09:17] <snowblink> danil1: have looked. But my laptop is not listed. Nothing similar either. :(
[09:17] <danil1> liquid: mv
[09:18] <tux_> liquid, mv
[09:18] <Slaven> heh
[09:18] <paer> liquid: mv folder to_another_folder/
[09:18] <danil1> snowblink: maybe you'll just have to wait... :-(
[09:18] <nicodiemus> Er. Anyone know much about Alsa?
[09:18] <liquid> so its mv *folder address* *second folder address* ?
[09:18] <Slaven> if you want to copy it with cp, you need the -R flag (cp -R <source> <dest.>)
[09:18] <scizzo> nicodiemus: ask the question instead please
[09:19] <paer> Anyone here knows where I should look for ways to get Firefox and Thunderbird in my local language (I choose swedish on installation of ubuntu, but my browser and thunderbird (which I installed later via apt-get) is in english.
[09:19] <nicodiemus> scizzo, my Mini-ITX doesn't seem to get on with the ALSA installation in Ubuntu. It won't detect or use it.
[09:19] <paer> liquid: yep pretty much that. you may have to have a look at the "-r" option, though
[09:19] <scizzo> nicodiemus: are you sure it is supported?
[09:20] <scizzo> nicodiemus: and if it is....in what version of alsa is it supported and kernel?
[09:20] <nicodiemus> Well, i had it working in Fedora. It's just an AC'97.
[09:20] <snowblink> danil1: Thanks anyway. Will have a look at acpi@sf
[09:21] <danilo_> snowblink: good luck!
[09:21] <Slaven> paer: if you find out, please tell me.
[09:21] <danilo_> paer: install mozilla-*-locale-se
[09:21] <danilo_> (if it is packaged...)
[09:21] <liquid> so something like : "cp /mnt/hdb5/bin /mnt" so im wanting to move the bin file to the mnt file...
[09:21] <paer> danilo_: ah so I will need to do a apt-get remove firefox and remove mozilla-thunderbird first?
[09:22] <liquid> *hte bin folder rather*
[09:22] <Slaven> se isn't packaged :(
[09:22] <danilo_> paer: no, they're just addons
[09:22] <nicodiemus> scizzo: Hm. I was pretty sure AC'97 was pretty generic, but i'll look into it.
[09:22] <paer> liquid: cp -r /mnt/hdb5/bin /mnt/
[09:22] <zazeem> hi
[09:22] <Slaven> even norwegian is packaged, but not swedish. :(
[09:22] <randabis-laptop> wow, laptop is lookin' good heh
[09:22] <randabis-laptop> http://img16.exs.cx/img16/9708/desktop14ml.jpg
[09:22] <hitu> could someone gimme the correct line for fstab to load a windows partition ?
[09:22] <danilo_> isn't it available as extension?
[09:23] <help> :)
[09:23] <paer> danilo_: that will copy the bin-folder to /mnt/
[09:23] <hitu> right now its : /dev/hda3               /mnt/windows  vfat    defaults        0 0
[09:23] <randabis-laptop> hitu, www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:23] <liquid> paer what does the -r do, i think i missed that part
[09:23] <hitu> i aint able to mount/umount it with a regular non-root user
[09:23] <hitu> okay randabis-laptop :)
[09:23] <Slaven> hitu: "users"
[09:23] <Slaven> in opts
[09:23] <paer> liquid: it copies subfolders too
[09:23] <scizzo> nicodiemus: well I don't know much more then to look if it is really supported
[09:23] <help> how do i edit my resolution on my nvidia logo and login screen so its 1024x768?
[09:23] <liquid> ah right
[09:23] <nicodiemus> scizzo: looks like it needs some kernel recompilation. :D fun.
[09:24] <danilo_> hitu: just add 'user' to the mount options
[09:24] <hitu> k
[09:24] <scizzo> hehe..
[09:24] <paer> danilo_: do you know where I should turn to offer my help to package it for ubuntu? is it a ubuntu-group that handles that, or is it the mozilla project?
[09:24] <danilo_> paer: just use cp -a (as root): it will preserve times, symlinks, etc. and copy recursively
[09:24] <help> how do i edit my resolution on my nvidia logo and login screen so its 1024x768?
[09:25] <paer> danilo_: ah, like cp -rp ?
[09:25] <danilo_> paer: ubuntu-devel, I think
[09:25] <paer> danilo_: ok thx i'll have a look
[09:25] <danilo_> paer: yes. if you're copying a whole file system, cp -ax is the best way
[09:26] <paer> danilo_: aha i've never seen either the -x or the -a options. nice to learn something :o)
[09:26] <help> ?
[09:27] <paer> help: are you looking for a way to change your screen resolution?
[09:27] <danilo_> help: what is the resolution now?
[09:27] <help> it is
[09:27] <help> dunno
[09:27] <help> really high
[09:27] <help> like 1600x1200 probably
[09:27] <danilo_> help: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[09:27] <paer> help: Computer -> System config -> Screen resolution (maybe just resolution)
[09:28] <liquid> paer, will it just sit there untill its done (its over a gigs worth of stuff that im shifting) ?
[09:28] <help> naa paer thats desktop :P
[09:28] <liquid> paer, cos it doesnt sound like its doing anything
[09:28] <netty> hi everyone! i've followed the guide at the ubuntu wiki to enable acpi suspend to disk, but nothing happens when i close my laptop lid. how can I debug it?
[09:28] <paer> liquid: yep it will.
[09:28] <liquid> but it hasnt given me any errors
[09:28] <help> can edit res in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[09:28] <paer> liquid: log in to another terminal window and do a df -h
[09:29] <paer> liquid: then wait some and do another one, and watch if the size has changed. if it has, you're copying :o)
[09:29] <liquid> now the terminal is giving me an inputoutput error
[09:29] <danilo_> liquid: you could use -v to see every file it copies/moves around
[09:29] <paer> liquid: what does it say?
[09:30] <liquid> paer then wait some and do another one, and watch
[09:30] <liquid> oops didnt past the right one
[09:30] <help> danilo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesnt have anything in it about res
[09:30] <paer> liquid: hehe no u didn't :o)
[09:30] <liquid> paer, cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/sda1/files/audacity/voice samples_data': Input/output error
[09:30] <paer> help: so you are fine with the desktop resolution, just not with the gdm resolution? or what?
[09:31] <danilo_> help: at the end it should. Anyway, just backup your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and try to edit it :-)
[09:31] <liquid> paer, im on a live cd, if that makes a difference
[09:31] <paer> liquid: i have no idea about the live cd. maybe you're trying to copy to cd? that may not work...
[09:31] <liquid> i installed windowsxp and it stuffed up the grub installation, im trying to copy files from linux to a usb hd
[09:31] <liquid> nope, im defenitely not :P
[09:31] <help> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ sudo /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[09:31] <help> sudo: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4: command not found
[09:32] <paer> liquid: ok. maybe there is some problems with the usb driver?
[09:32] <liquid> the usb hd only has write privelages for root, so i typed sudo fierst
[09:32] <paer> help: sudo gedit ...
[09:32] <paer> help: or sudo cp ... ... for bkup first
[09:32] <help> k
[09:32] <liquid> threr used to be a bunch of files on the hard drive, now theres only 2...;
[09:33] <help> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ sudo cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[09:33] <help> cp: missing destination file
[09:33] <help> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[09:33] <nicodiemus> scizzo: i found this: http://www3.sympatico.ca/howlettfamily/epia/epia_howto/x822.html
[09:33] <paer> liquid: ok maybe the mounted disk was unmounted for some reason?
[09:33] <danilo_> help: .../etc/X11/XF86-backup
[09:33] <paer> help: man cp
[09:33] <liquid> paer, i dont see why.. :P
[09:33] <danilo_> help: or just use the file manager (as root) to copy and edit the file
[09:33] <liquid> im gong to try with "-v" instead
[09:33] <liquid> see if that makes any difference
[09:33] <paer> help: that will tell you that u need to enter a destination file too.
[09:34] <help> zazeem@workgroup:~ $ /etc/X11/XF86-backup cp
[09:34] <help> bash: /etc/X11/XF86-backup: No such file or directory
[09:34] <paer> liquid: yep, that sounds smart. :o)
[09:34] <danilo_> help: Apps->Sys tools->File man. (as superuser) or something like that
[09:34] <danilo_> liquid: use -u to skip files already copied (if you want)
[09:34] <paer> danilo_: how did u get that entry in the menu?
[09:34] <liquid> /mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files
[09:35] <liquid> warty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo cp -v /mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files /mnt/sda1
[09:35] <liquid> cp: omitting directory `/mnt/hdb5/home/matthew/Desktop/files'
[09:35] <danilo_> paer: it's here in hoary... isn't in warty?
[09:35] <liquid> ommitting directory?
[09:35] <paer> help: cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4-backup
[09:35] <danilo_> liquid: cp -axv
[09:35] <paer> danilo_: not what I can see :o)
[09:35] <paer> danilo_: but it sounds like a good idea. I can't wait for hoary to be stable.
[09:35] <liquid> danilo_, axv?
[09:36] <apokryphos> Hey everyone. Could anyone help me out with some Ubuntu apt sources?
[09:36] <help> anyone know the wii where it showed how to install nvidia or ati stuff? it was really useful
[09:36] <paer> apokryphos: please include what apt sources you are looking for in your question
[09:36] <help> wwiki*
[09:36] <paer> help: google for ubuntu install nvidia
[09:37] <danilo_> paer: -a: include subdirs, etc. -x: skip other filesystems. -v: report progress
[09:37] <help> done that i know its in the wiki just cantt find
[09:37] <apokryphos> paer: Sorry; I just meant an apt sources repository in general. The Universe one I have is *very* dated (just installed Ubuntu today); it has KDE 3.2.... while 3.3 (and even 3.3.2) has been out for quite some time.
[09:37] <paer> help: also, I would believe the wiki has a search function
[09:37] <danilo_> paer: just sudo nautilus in the meantime ;-)
[09:37] <liquid> danilo_, i tried the cp -axv option, it went straight into the input output error
[09:38] <paer> danilo_: yep
[09:38] <paer> apokryphos: you may try multiverse, but I don't know if you will find kde 3.3. I do gnome
[09:38] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, that's because warty's packages froze quit a while ago
[09:39] <danilo_> liquid: is there valuable data on the usb disk? or only a copy?
[09:39] <liquid> its a backup
[09:39] <liquid> but its not my disk
[09:39] <randabis-laptop> if you want kde 3.3, you either need to get it elsewhere, or use hoary (development release)
[09:39] <paer> apokryphos: just you have to know that multiverse apps may be unstable or make your system unstable
[09:39] <randabis-laptop> it is in hoary's universe
[09:39] <apokryphos> paer: Right, will try that now.
[09:39] <paer> apokryphos: also have a look at randabis answer :o)
[09:39] <liquid> cp: failed to preserve ownership for `/mnt/sda1/files': Operation not permitted
[09:39] <liquid> - could tht be cos im on a live cd? (i just used "sudo"
[09:39] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: I see; thanks.
[09:39] <Slaven> uh
[09:40] <danilo_> liquid: no, if you are root, you are root everywhere on the system.
[09:40] <Slaven> where the h3ll is my grub.conf?
[09:40] <apokryphos> Not many KDE users on Ubuntu, then?
[09:40] <paer> Slaven: /boot/grub?
[09:40] <liquid> danily_ what im saying is that im not proper root
[09:40] <Slaven> paer: nope
[09:40] <danilo_> liquid: what filesystem is on the usb disk? is not fat, or is it?
[09:40] <liquid> i cant use the perminant root command, cos im on the live cd
[09:40] <liquid> its fat
[09:40] <paer> apokryphos: I have no idea, but I would guess kde users do debian or mandrake
[09:41] <Slaven> don't even have a /boot/grub
[09:41] <danilo_> liquid: fat has *no* support for perms
[09:41] <liquid> oh
[09:41] <liquid> it says that root can write to it
[09:41] <liquid> but noone else
[09:41] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, not really, it's meant to be a gnome-based distro...there is a kubuntu team out there though that are working to bring the latest kde to hoary (as I said, kde 3.3 is in universe)
[09:41] <Slaven> eh... either I'm blind or stupid, or... I don't have a kernel image in /boot.
[09:41] <paer> Slaven: uhm ok. I do.
[09:42] <wm_eddie> anybody know where I can get the documentation on how to add a new session to GDM?
[09:42] <randabis-laptop> I use XFCE personally :)
[09:42] <paer> Slaven: not that I'm implying anything ;o)
[09:42] <help> how do i get into the nvidia settings panel to set stuff??????
[09:42] <Slaven> oh, boot wasn't even mounted :P
[09:42] <Slaven> hahaha
[09:42] <Slaven> but there's stuff in there anyway
[09:42] <danilo_> liquid: if you want a reliable backup, you should reformat the backup disk as ext3, or reiserfs, or another linux fs
[09:42] <paer> help: nvidia-settings i think
[09:42] <randabis-laptop> Slaven, /boot/grub/menu.lst is probably the closest thing...your kernels should be vmlinuz-*
[09:42] <paer> Slaven: hehe.
[09:43] <randabis-laptop> heh
[09:43] <Slaven> randabis: ofcourse.
[09:43] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: It's in Universe? Perhaps I'm not following properly... but I've got the Universe repository and it's 3.2
[09:43] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, you're using ubuntu warty
[09:43] <paer> apokryphos: universe for hoary. maybe that's someting else..
[09:43] <randabis-laptop> that's why
[09:43] <liquid> danilo_ i dont know if im allowed to
[09:44] <liquid> danilo_ could i use a dvd writer with this? or do i have to install software?
[09:44] <danilo_> liquid: is there enough space for your root partition?
[09:44] <linux_mafia> any devs here? or anyone else here running hoary noticed hal dosen't start
[09:44] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Sorry, what's the difference? =)
[09:44] <marcin_ant> hello - any news about website contest?
[09:44] <liquid> danilo_ root partition?
[09:44] <randabis-laptop> ubuntu hoary has a lot of bleeding edge packages and is in active development
[09:44] <randabis-laptop> it receives daily package and security updates
[09:44] <paer> marcin_ant: website contest?
[09:44] <danilo_> liquid: the root for ubuntu, the one you are trying to copy
[09:45] <randabis-laptop> warty only receives security updates
[09:45] <randabis-laptop> since hoary is still in development it's considered "unstable"
[09:45] <marcin_ant> paer: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/websitecompetition
[09:45] <liquid> danilo_, theres 70gig free space, so i think so :P
[09:45] <danilo_> liquid: how large is it? (show me df output)
[09:45] <paer> marcin_ant: thx
[09:45] <netmonk> anyone with ubuntu on iBook g3?
[09:45] <randabis-laptop> things might break from time to time, etc...but broken things are generally fixed very quickly
[09:46] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: But.. it's not a different platform? Technically, what are Warty and Hoary?
[09:46] <randabis-laptop> I currently run hoary on 3 different systems
[09:46] <website> randabis-laptop, how can i upgrade to hoary?
[09:46] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: If it's got better KDE support, then I'll most probably get it
[09:46] <website> randabis-laptop, do you knwo the differencies between a debian and an ubuntu package?
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, it's the version of ubuntu currently in active development. When it is released in April, it will replace warty
[09:47] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Ah, I understand. Will get it now... stability is boring ;-)
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> website, check the ubuntu wiki, HoaryHedgehod section
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> Hedgehog een
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> even
[09:47] <randabis-laptop> blah, laptop keys :p
[09:48] <randabis-laptop> website, generally ubuntu packages have ubuntu in their package name or description
[09:48] <help> k now when i start an opengl game it restarts to login, it changes resolution, hen rebooots to login and nvidia screen :| any idea why this is te error i get -----R_Init ----- ...loading libGL.so.1: Initializing OpenGL display ...setting mode 6: 1024 768 Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 XF86DGA Mouse (Version 2.0) initialized XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1024x768 X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server
[09:48] <danilo_> liquid: you can use a nasty trick to create an image of the whole file system and store it in a file
[09:48] <apokryphos> GrumpyGroundhog :D What an excellent name
[09:49] <randabis-laptop> GrumpyGroundhog has actually been renamed to Bendy iirc
[09:49] <[amasimak] > website, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary
[09:49] <magnon> Bendy what?
[09:49] <randabis-laptop> Grumpy is going to be something else entirely I think
[09:49] <website> randabis-laptop, it seems to be not true since synaptic determinates if the package is supported into ubuntu
[09:49] <bigbubba> two part question: one is there any place to download new screeensavers for linux and two: where are they to be places so the gnome screensaver option finds them?
[09:50] <website> not by name (i changed the name of a downloaded package)
[09:50] <marcin_ant> paer: "Entries close on January 31st, 2005" so, it could be nice to see some news about this competition
[09:50] <website> thanks [amasimak]
[09:50] <randabis-laptop> I don't know...it hasn't been officially announced (the name change), but it is likely that the change will be announced soon
[09:50] <paer> marcin_ant: yea I saw that. sad I didn't see it before, would have been nice trying to participate
[09:50] <Slaven> are there any good video editing programs for Linux out ther?
[09:51] <randabis-laptop> website, synaptic will do dependency checks yes
[09:51] <Slaven> like the ones that come out of the box with Windows and Mac OS X?
[09:51] <randabis-laptop> Slaven, I've heard good things about Kino
[09:51] <randabis-laptop> it's pretty basic though
[09:51] <nicodiemus> Good video editing programs come out of the box with Windows/
[09:51] <tux_> Slaven, theres a few, check synaptic
[09:51] <randabis-laptop> there are others
[09:51] <nicodiemus> I think i've been using the wrong version!
[09:51] <website> randabis-laptop, dependencise check if different to discover if a package is stable inot ubuntu system or not
[09:51] <Slaven> nicodiemus: No... that came out wrong. :D
[09:52] <nicodiemus> Hehe.
[09:52] <nicodiemus> :D
[09:52] <Slaven> but I've heard some good stuff about the OS X program, though.
[09:52] <liquid> danilo_ will i be able to retrieve the files at the end of it?
[09:52] <Slaven> I'm checking Kino out.
[09:52] <randabis-laptop> website, yeah, and thus a lot of debian packages can work seemlessly with ubuntu
[09:52] <nicodiemus> Yeah, OSX is actually good for video editing.
[09:52] <otroean2> hi i'm using a Epson Stylus Photo R300 through an windows xp machine and the priting from linux is very slow. The test page took 10-15 minutes
[09:52] <randabis-laptop> Slaven, iMovie?
[09:53] <nicodiemus> And most camcorders i've seen just... work.
[09:53] <liquid> danilo_ the files i want add up to 9.2 gig s
[09:53] <randabis-laptop> supposedly it is very good
[09:53] <Orbo> hi, I just reinstalled ubuntu after a brief and semi-unsuccessful stint with gentoo
[09:53] <Slaven> randabis: yes.
[09:53] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: I must be real silly, but I can't see the location for the download of Hoary...
[09:53] <hitu> hey i have a ps2 mouse .. so should i select /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mice ?
[09:53] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Cancel that. I am being silly. =)
[09:53] <randabis-laptop> apokryphos, you don't have to download an iso
[09:53] <randabis-laptop> change your sources.list
[09:53] <Orbo> I'm currently adding servers back to my repository list and I can't seem to remember one of them, I think It had something to do with source9 or something similar?
[09:54] <website> hitu second one
[09:54] <Slaven> we're shooting a couple of movies this year, and I thought I'd give Linux software a try.
[09:54] <hitu> thanks
[09:54] <apokryphos> randabis-laptop: Just realised. Thanks. =)
[09:54] <nicodiemus> Tbph, Slaven, i don't know any good F/OSS video editing packages for LInux.
[09:54] <randabis-laptop> you may have to run apt-get -f install if anything fails during your dist-upgrade
[09:54] <nicodiemus> If you find one, i'd certainly like to know. ;)
[09:55] <sirjackalot> sorry xchat closed on me before i could get the answer to my questions if anyone answered
[09:55] <thundrcleeze> I'm sure they exist, Slaven
[09:55] <nicodiemus> There are some neat commercial packages around.
[09:56] <paer> sirjackalot: what is your question?
[09:56] <nicodiemus> Smoke and Mirrors or something. Big workstation style stuff.
[09:56] <HrdwrBoB> nicodiemus: Broadcast 2000c
[09:56] <HrdwrBoB> Broadcast2K is dead, you should try Cinelerra (http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3) and Kino/dvgrab (http://kino.schirmacher.de/).
[09:56] <sirjackalot> anyone know how to make a virtual network card with vmware? that was one of them and the is how do you add new screensavers and is there a place to find new ones?
[09:56] <nicodiemus> HrdwrBoB, Really? /me hits google
[09:56] <sirjackalot> err sorry about the name
[09:56] <bigbubba> there
[09:56] <LinkMasterSab> Anyone have any idea why my sound quality might be shit on Ubuntu and great on Windows?
[09:57] <paer> bigbubba: i have no idea, sorry
[09:57] <bigbubba> no big deal
[09:57] <nicodiemus> It appears to have been superceded.
[09:57] <bigbubba> just have winblows running in a vm and thought i would try to get it to connect to the net
[09:57] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Missing drivers.
[09:57] <Slaven> lsmod | grep snd
[09:57] <liquid> danilo_ , if i use the '-r' command to try to move a folder, it giive s m the input output error, if i use the 'v' command it says "ommitting directory"
[09:58] <bigbubba> only rpoblem is i don't know how to link it to the existing ethernet card
[09:58] <help> hpw do i edit my x config
[09:58] <help> need to change color depth
[09:58] <help> ?
[09:58] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven: Okay, so what am I looking at here?
[09:58] <paer> help: sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86Config
[09:59] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Your loaded sound modules (drivers).
[09:59] <paer> help: add "-4" to that
[09:59] <LinkMasterSab> Okay, but how does that help me?
[09:59] <Slaven> check lspci as well
[09:59] <Slaven> see if you can find your sound card.
[10:00] <randabis-laptop> hey I've found some links for you guys looking for video editing on linux
[10:00] <Slaven> randabis: post.
[10:00] <LinkMasterSab> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05)
[10:00] <help> how do i edit my resolutions in x cfg without messing it up??
[10:00] <help> and how do i make a backup whats cmd
[10:00] <randabis-laptop> here's one
[10:00] <randabis-laptop> more to follow
[10:00] <randabis-laptop> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxCommercialApplications.html
[10:01] <paer> anyone here knows if I can make a desktop link to a X-Chat channel? that is, just double-click the icon and it will open XChat and connect to #ubuntu@freenode?
[10:01] <randabis-laptop> http://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml
[10:01] <LinkMasterSab> If you tell me I need to buy a new sound card, I'll just go back to Windows :|
[10:01] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: lsmod | grep snd_ac97_codec <-- that give you anything?
[10:01] <paer> help: cp thefile thefile-backup
[10:01] <randabis-laptop> http://kino.schirmacher.de/
[10:01] <randabis-laptop> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[10:01] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven, yes.
[10:01] <randabis-laptop> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
[10:02] <LinkMasterSab> A few things.
[10:02] <help> any one gunna answer
[10:02] <Slaven> hm... I hade the same problem
[10:02] <Slaven> on Gentoo
[10:02] <randabis-laptop> those are probably the most common ones
[10:02] <LinkMasterSab> ... Did you fix it?
[10:02] <help> ...
[10:02] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Yes, by compiling the ac97_codec and loading it.
[10:03] <LinkMasterSab> Okay.
[10:03] <Slaven> but you already have it loaded.
[10:03] <LinkMasterSab> :(
[10:03] <Slaven> so I don't think my situation is applicable here.
[10:03] <randabis-laptop> yeah was just gonna say that
[10:03] <bitfoo> HEY
[10:03] <bitfoo> that cinelerra looks cool O_O
[10:03] <Slaven> randabis: thanks, I'll check them out.
[10:03] <randabis-laptop> you're welcome
[10:03] <sampsa> quit
[10:04] <LinkMasterSab> For some reason, adjusting the Master volume doesn't do anything
[10:04] <bzbb> how do I connect to a printer shared over samba?
[10:05] <Slaven> LinkMaster: Hm.
[10:05] <randabis-laptop> have to know the path to the printer
[10:05] <randabis-laptop> then you can use that path to add the network printer with the gnome printing utility
[10:05] <Slaven> do you use the volume controller in gnome?
[10:05] <LinkMasterSab> The volume changes if I mess with PCM, PCM2, or Headphone
[10:05] <LinkMasterSab> That's what I'm trying
[10:05] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me how to set misc-fixed as gnome-terminal font?
[10:05] <LinkMasterSab> marcin_ant: Edit > Current Profile
[10:06] <terry_> can I upgrade to hoary??
[10:06] <liquidboy> can you burn dvds  with the ubuntu live cd? or cds if i have another cd burner drive
[10:06] <liquidboy> ?
[10:06] <randabis-laptop> if you want to yes you can terry_
[10:06] <marcin_ant> LinkMasterSab: there is no misc fixed on this list
[10:06] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Is PCM at highest possible volume?
[10:06] <LinkMasterSab> Oh.
[10:06] <terry_> what are the repositories??
[10:06] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven: No, that really blasted the speakers.
[10:06] <LinkMasterSab> marcin_ant, sorry, no idea.
[10:06] <randabis-laptop> generally all you have to do is change "warty" to "hoary" in your sources.list terry_
[10:06] <Slaven> LinkMasterSab: Even if you turned down the volume on the speakers? 8)
[10:07] <thundrcleeze> Why does the printer default to postscript in almost all my apps, and how do I get remove the postscript stuff, since I don't own a postscript printer?
[10:07] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven: No, don't be stupid :)
[10:07] <LinkMasterSab> Slaven: It seems to be sounding pretty good now
[10:07] <Slaven> cause I just remembered, I had this problem in Ubuntu just recently as well, and it turned out that I'd set the volume control to low volume and then turned up the speakers.
[10:07] <LinkMasterSab> But still, it's weird that Master doesn't do anything
[10:07] <Slaven> by reversing this, setting the volume at max and turning down the speakers, the sound got much clearer.
[10:08] <marcin_ant> LinkMasterSab: do you use gnome-terminal
[10:08] <marcin_ant> ?
[10:08] <LinkMasterSab> marchin_ant: Yes
[10:08] <liquidboy> for who ever was heloping me copy files, for some reason, now i have write permission ... so it's all good *scratches head* but at least its working
[10:08] <randabis-laptop> I use Terminal :)
[10:08] <marcin_ant> LinkMasterSab: and with which font?
[10:09] <LinkMasterSab> system default :|
[10:09] <LinkMasterSab> monospace 12
[10:09] <terry_> what are the repositories for hoary??
[10:09] <bzbb> how do I connect to a windows printer?
[10:09] <terry_> Is there a hoary-security??
[10:09] <Slaven> (I'm using gnome-terminal with AR PL KaitiM GB 12)
[10:09] <Slaven> (a little corny but I like it)
[10:09] <randabis-laptop> terry_, yes
[10:10] <danilo_> liquid: sorry, I was away... r u still here?
[10:10] <randabis-laptop> he just quit :/
[10:10] <shock> I LOVE MY GIRL! :D
[10:10] <shock> sorry about the screaming
[10:10] <shock> *g*
[10:10] <Milda> hi, i have gnoppix <IP_ADDRESS> now (i've used 0.6.0-rc2 before) a there isn't mplayer, what can i use to play movies?
[10:10] <twentyone> hop hop
[10:10] <danilo_> randabis: oh, well...
[10:10] <[amasimak] > toem ?
[10:10] <Slaven> Milda: xine?
[10:10] <[amasimak] > totem ?
[10:10] <randabis-laptop> gnoppix is a liveCD :p
[10:11] <dholbach> bzbb: can't you search for a network printer in the system's printing dialog, once you shared it in windows?
[10:11] <Milda> Slaven: xine isn't here :(
[10:12] <randabis-laptop> Milda, what about totem?
[10:12] <bzbb> dholbach, system printing dialog?
[10:12] <balc> im trying to get safepeer for azureus to run correctly, but im getting a java error.  I followed the ubuntu guides instructions for java installation.  azureus works, but gives a error when loading the safepeer plugin.  Has anyone else encountered this?
[10:12] <dholbach> bzbb: desktop -> system -> printer
[10:12] <terry_> is warty only for amd64??
[10:13] <randabis-laptop> no
[10:13] <bzbb> dholbach, I run KDE
[10:13] <paer> terry_: no
[10:13] <dholbach> terry_: no
[10:13] <terry_> is hoary newer or older than warty??
[10:13] <Orbo> bzbb, which repository didyou use to get KDE
[10:13] <randabis-laptop> warty has i386, ppc, and AMD65
[10:13] <dholbach> bzbb: don't know how to do it there
[10:13] <randabis-laptop> 64
[10:13] <paer> terry_: newer
[10:13] <apokryphos> terry_:  Newer
[10:13] <randabis-laptop> hoary is newer
[10:13] <terry_> is there an amd64 for hoary??
[10:13] <dholbach> terry_: of course
[10:13] <bzbb> Orbo, I have multiverse, universe, and marrilon enabled
[10:13] <bzbb> for warty
[10:14] <bzbb> its kde 3.2.3
[10:14] <randabis-laptop> he got it from warty universe
[10:14] <terry_> so if I change my sources.list to hoary will it grab the 64 bit packages automagically??
[10:14] <dholbach> terry_: if you use amd64 packages already, yes it does
[10:14] <randabis-laptop> terry_, probably...
[10:14] <terry_> okay cool
[10:14] <liquidboy> ok, so ive got write permission for my usb hard drive, i tried to write a file to it, but it gave me an I/O error
[10:14] <liquidboy> no idea why
[10:14] <terry_> yea I installed from an amd64 netinst iso
[10:15] <dholbach> terry_: it won't ever try to do something else ;-)
[10:15] <bzbb> Orbo, I found the print manager, NM
[10:15] <danilo_> liquidboy: hello again. Isn't it flawed?
[10:15] <Milda> randabis-laptop: thx, i didn't know about totem, but it can't play it ("don't know how to handle video/x-divx... audio/mpeg...")
[10:15] <AndyR> wow i have skype working at last on hoary \o/
[10:15] <terry_> okay amd64 chroot and all that jazz, anyone know a tutorial on installing mplayer??
[10:15] <liquidboy> danilo_ and ti's not displaying all the stuff on the drive
[10:15] <terry_> I want the 32bit windows binaries to work
[10:15] <liquidboy> now its only showing 1 file
[10:15] <liquidboy> but i know theres hepas more on there
[10:15] <randabis-laptop> Milda, probably because it's using totem-gstreamer and doesn't have w32codecs
[10:16] <danilo_> liquid: what file?
[10:16] <paer> liquidboy: you're sure the disk is properly mounted?
[10:16] <dholbach> terry_: it's on the wiki... isnt it?
[10:16] <liquidboy> lol, now its showing none
[10:16] <terry_> dholbach, could be