[00:00] <histo> BadK1tty: what desktop environment where they running?
[00:00] <BadK1tty> this one looked like the ship it had the hex pattern in red
[00:01] <BadK1tty> the vid didn't say
[00:01] <BadK1tty> coolest thing i've seen yet
[00:01] <BadK1tty> i'll have to keep lookin
[00:01] <BadK1tty> id say gnome or kde
[00:02] <BadK1tty> it looked like he had cairo dock
[00:02] <Kalel> Greetings..
[00:03] <Kalel> I would like to install 'whatsApp' in my android device from ubuntu raring ringtail. Can I do that without any problem?
[00:04] <histo> Kalel: what do you mean install it from ubuntu?
[00:05] <xenland> How come when i follow these directions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1180792
[00:05] <xenland> my boost still dosen't work in cmake?
[00:06] <xenland> says version 0.0.0
[00:06] <Kalel> histo: From my computer, ubuntu 13.04. My android device is conected in usb.. I already downloaded the app from the website.
[00:07] <histo> Kalel: then copy the apk to your sd card or android device and install it. Why don't you just install it from the android market?
[00:08] <Kalel> histo: Ok. I didn't consedered that. I'll try.. Thank you.
[00:10] <brett2342> i'm trying to set up a local repository for ubuntu 12.04 server following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[00:11] <brett2342> i'm trying to set up a local repository for ubuntu 12.04 server following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository , but after running apt-get update, it says failed to fetch...repository/dists//precise/main/binary-i386/Packages, but i am on x86_64, so not sure why it's looking for i386. any suggestions?
[00:11] <histo> brett2342: there is an extra / in there is that a typo or did you copy and paste?
[00:12] <brett2342> histo: no, that was a typo (not copy & paste)
[00:12] <zipper> wilee-nilee: uh I don't see an option to use it in terminal from here. It just opens the browser
[00:13] <histo> brett2342: did you download the proper contents
[00:13] <histo> and proper packages files or did you download i386 ones
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> zipper, What install of tor?
[00:14] <brett2342> histo: yeah, i'm fairly certain i have the correct packages. i don't see where the i386 is pulling from
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> zipper, Not sure what you mean by use in terminal.
[00:15] <Christoff522> #join #r/linux
[00:15] <zipper> I want to say use it with irssi
[00:16] <zipper> I downloaded the tor browser bundle
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> zipper, never used irssi myself
[00:16] <histo> zipper: tor browser bundle is not tor and has no terminal component that I'm aware of.
[00:16] <histo> zipper: if you want to torify irssi that is another thing all together
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> the tor browser use the tor network
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> uses
[00:17] <zipper> histo: how exactly? When I run tor -v I get valid output so tor is installed?
[00:17] <histo> zipper: most likely  so if you want to use it with a cli app just torify whatever
[00:18] <zipper> okay let me see the command is just << torify irssi >> ?
[00:18] <xatr0z> zipper: you could connect irssi to a port on localhost, and use a proxy to sent traffic on that port to the irc server you want
[00:18] <xatr0z> and torify is one way of doing it
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> zipper, YOu had not mentioned as far as I saw any indication of irc through tor at least to me.
[00:18] <xatr0z> but if you want privacy you arent finished yet
[00:19] <xatr0z> there could be a lot of leaks of your ip addres or other information
[00:19] <xatr0z> zipper: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/irssi here are some methods, but if torify works for you and you just want to evade irc bans no problem
[00:19] <zipper> Well I got the following info from their install instructions.
[00:19] <histo> zipper: typically and that has nothing to do with tor browser bundle
[00:19] <zipper>  To use SOCKS directly (for instant messaging, Jabber, IRC, etc), you can point your application directly at Tor (localhost port 9050), but see this FAQ entry for why this may be dangerous. For applications that support neither SOCKS nor HTTP, take a look at torsocks or socat.
[00:19] <histo> !tor | zipper
[00:20] <zipper> wilee-nilee: true, my bad.
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> zipper, No biggie, I was just helping you get a tor network browser, I ahve not messed with making my irc client torified, and don't use tor in general
[00:22] <zipper> let me try it.
[00:24] <zipper> Well just torify and irssi said that I was banned lol
[00:24] <AcidRain2012> ok, setting up an ftp server has failed me. so im looking into sftp and openssh. what is the difference? can any standard ftp client connect to an openssh server?
[00:25] <jhile> Hey guys has anyone ran into this issue with wine? I ran the game limbo and when I exited the game my desktop was white I couldn't seem to fix it unless i logged out and back in
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> zipper, You have to set it up just right, not sure what that is though.
[00:29] <somsip> AcidRain2012: is it necessary for you to use ftp, or could you use scp?
[00:29] <Kalel> histo, Successfully installed. I paste the .apk to 'apk folder and my device regognized itself...
[00:29] <syntroPi> whats from with the usb kernel modules? they made my kernel froze bad enough that even REISUB couldnt unlock it? do i really need to pull my power plug everytime usb fails?
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> syntroPi, This a iso loaded to a usb and you have updated the kernel?
[00:32] <syntroPi> wilee-nilee, i just was copying some files from/to my usb hdd. then it totaly froze, i have never seen it that bad
[00:33] <syntroPi> did not update it, its last release, but first time i did some heavy copy with this kernel
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> syntroPi, Not sure what a usb kernel module is, you make this up?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> in other words just some name applied
[00:35] <syntroPi> wilee-nilee, well i guess its something like usb_storage together with dependencies
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> syntroPi, So let me get this straight, you using a usb with ubuntu to move packages from your install on the computer to a external HS?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> HD*
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> Thats okay to do you are limited however on the speed of the flash stick and the usb ports, are you sure it actually froze?
[00:38] <syntroPi> wilee-nilee, nope i attached my usb hdd on usb 3 port (which is  NEC Corporation uPD720200) and copied some files from usb hdd to another dir in usb hdd (which has NTFS on it)
[00:39] <syntroPi> on my regular up to date x64 system (which runs from ssd hdd)
[00:39] <AcidRain2012> i need some help setting up an ftp server
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> syntroPi, Ah would run faster with usb 3, I guess you have to investigate what is causing the freeze, not sure how myself efficiently anyway.
[00:40] <syntroPi> wilee-nilee, i couldnt investigate anything, it did not even recognise REISUB
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> syntroPi, There are error files, I have really never had to use them in 6 years so I have not worried to debug stuff.
[00:42] <AcidRain2012> can anyone help with with setting up ftp server? im having some permission issues. i want my username to be able to access /var/www/ from /home/ftpusers/acidrain/[sym_link_to_www]
[00:42] <AcidRain2012> how can i do this?
[00:42] <AcidRain2012> i have the vsftp server running as ftp.ftp
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> AcidRain2012, by having some patience to start with.
[00:42] <syntroPi> wilee-nilee, which are the latest kernel syslogs? i guess sth like /var/log/syslog.1 ?
[00:42] <AcidRain2012> wilee-nilee, at this point i just want it to work. im not sure what i did. but i JUST got it to allow me to login after 10hrs of work
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> syntroPi, Not sure out of my armchair use skills. ;)
[00:43] <somsip> syntroPi: without numbers are the latest. *.1 is the previous one, *.2 is the one before that, etc
[00:44] <syntroPi> somsip, so without number is life?
[00:44] <somsip> syntroPi: yes. Eg: /var/log/syslog
[00:44] <syntroPi> so the last boot is syslog.1? well if so it didnt write anything malicious in there
[00:45] <somsip> syntroPi: they are not rotated every boot. The current log is /var/log/syslog
[00:45] <Silver_Arrow> So, after a hard shutdown from power loss, the mixer plugin and pulse audio no longer detect any audio harware, only dummy output
[00:48] <Silver_Arrow> anybody know what might've cause it?
[00:48] <syntroPi> somsip, oh thanks there it is, damn it looks dirty there: SysRq : Resetting, BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! and lots of debug
[00:51] <syntroPi> Silver_Arrow, try sompin like "sudo alsa force-reload"
[00:52] <loadid_czech> Silver_Arrow: lshw and make sure your audio hardware is still detected
[00:52] <Silver_Arrow> okay, did that, started pulse audio, and it still only reports dummy output
[00:53] <AcidRain2012> hax!!!!
[00:54] <semitones> if I have a program that outputs text, can I pipe that text to a bash program that adds "foobar " to the text, and then pipe that to something else?
[00:54] <somsip> semitones: yes
[00:54] <semitones> somsip, what's the bash program called?
[00:54] <somsip> semitones: pipe, like you said. Maybe I'm missing yourpoint?
[00:55] <somsip> semitones: eg: |
[00:55] <semitones> somsip, but what if I want to add text to that string, and then send it on, how do I add text?
[00:55] <SchrodingersScat> semitones: sed? awk? #bash can probably lead you down a delightful path of various ways to do that :3
[00:55] <somsip> semitones: sed possibly
[00:55] <semitones> yay, thanks!
[00:57] <pepper_chico> .xbindkeysrc makes my keyboard irresponsive after reboot, only modifiers keys working, anyone gone through that?
[00:57] <pepper_chico> "{ echo KeyStrPress Alt_L; echo KeyStr F1; echo KeyStrRelease Alt_L; } | xmacroplay :0"
[00:57] <pepper_chico>   Release+F13
[00:57] <dumb_questions> restoring a backup from a Tar to a new VM. Think I have the drive set right, but now I'm trying to set up Grub. I'm using instructions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR that read: sudo -s
[00:57] <dumb_questions> for f in dev dev/pts proc ; do mount --bind /$f /media/whatever/$f ; done
[00:57] <dumb_questions> chroot /media/whatever
[00:57] <dumb_questions> dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[00:57] <AcidRain2012> can i not bind a certain directory to the ftp directory with different permissions?
[00:57] <FloodBot1> dumb_questions: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <dumb_questions> my problem is here: for f in dev dev/pts proc ; do mount --bind /$f /media/whatever/$f ; done
[00:57] <pepper_chico> this is was I've put at the xbindkeysrc file
[00:58] <Silver_Arrow> description: Audio device product: MCP79 High Definition Audio vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[00:58] <AcidRain2012> i must be missing something major right now, just a year ago i could easily setup an ftp server allowing any user to access where ever i wanted them to, and them have what ever rights i wanted them to, regardless of the local permissions
[00:58] <Silver_Arrow> found that under multimedia
[00:58] <dumb_questions> am I just to replace /media/whatever with the location of the bootable drive? In that case, it's /
[00:58] <loadid_czech> ok, well that's not bad news Silver_Arrow
[00:58] <Silver_Arrow> the only other hit for 'audio' was the dvd drive
[00:59] <pepper_chico> man, how is it hard to map right alt to left alt + F1...
[00:59] <loadid_czech> maybe nvidia drivers got borked? uninstall and reinstall restricted drivers?
[00:59] <forresthopkinsa> Hey everyone, I did something really stupid using sudo and I can't seem to fix it...
[00:59] <Silver_Arrow> opengl is working fine though
[01:00] <loadid_czech> wouldn't see how a power failure would cause that, but i'm sure stranger things have happened Silver_Arrow
[01:00] <loadid_czech> opengl is video driver, you're having an audio issue
[01:00] <Silver_Arrow> hard shutdown, but it didn't want to scan my disks on starting up
[01:00] <Johnny_Linux> Silver_Arrow,   sudo touch /forcefsck  reboot
[01:01] <kabamaro> Silver_Arrow: cd /usr/sbin -> rm -rf * -> reboot
[01:01] <forresthopkinsa> Using sudo, I changed the UID of /etc to 1000. Since the folder 'sudoers' is inside /etc, it cannot be accessed by the system because its UID is set at 1000. For the system to use it, it must be on UID 0. I can't change it back to 0 because I need root permissions to do so, but sudo is not functional because it has the wrong UID. What do I do??
[01:01] <somsip> !danger | kabamaro
[01:02] <kabamaro> ??
[01:02] <forresthopkinsa> Hey hey hey look at what I said please. Not to sound impatient but people are waiting on me. I am running multiple servers on my Ubuntu Server computer. plz help.
[01:03] <kabamaro> forresthopkinsa:  do the same thing i said earlier
[01:03] <kabamaro> it will fix it
[01:03] <forresthopkinsa> oh
[01:03] <somsip> !danger | forresthopkinsa
[01:03] <forresthopkinsa> Er alright
[01:03] <somsip> kabamaro: stop please. Or clarify what you are saying
[01:03] <Silver_Arrow> Not ran as root, or in a /home
[01:03] <forresthopkinsa> Which command exactly
[01:03] <kabamaro> forresthopkinsa: cd /usr/sbin
[01:03] <kabamaro> then rm -rf *
[01:03] <kabamaro> then reboot
[01:04] <forresthopkinsa> Er I don't think that would help my situation in any way...
[01:04] <kabamaro> it will
[01:04] <forresthopkinsa> Alright, how
[01:04] <bazhang> forresthopkinsa, dont run it
[01:04] <forresthopkinsa> ok ok ok i wont but someone tell me what TO run
[01:05] <loadid_czech> i somehow, disabled my touchpad, with an accidental key combination... does anyone know what combination that may have been?
[01:05] <Silver_Arrow> He wasn't saying to run it as root, or anywhere it would cause damage
[01:05] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: don't run what was just suggested
[01:05] <bazhang> Silver_Arrow, yes he was. lets move on
[01:05] <forresthopkinsa> ALRIGHT I am not going to run it, thank you very much everyone. I am more concerned with what TO run.
[01:05] <forresthopkinsa> I am going to rechat my issue.
[01:06] <forresthopkinsa> Using sudo, I changed the UID of /etc to 1000. Since the folder 'sudoers' is inside /etc, it cannot be accessed by the system because its UID is set at 1000. For the system to use it, it must be on UID 0. I can't change it back to 0 because I need root permissions to do so, but sudo is not functional because it has the wrong UID. What do I do??
[01:06] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: what exactly did you run?
[01:06] <hdhzero> Hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 as host and trying to run xubuntu 13.04 on virtualbox as guest. It fails to install guest additions saying that headers for the current kernel couldnt be found. Which kernel? the one from ubuntu 12.04 (host) or xubuntu 13.04 (guest)?
[01:06] <forresthopkinsa> oh yeah i will tell you
[01:06] <forresthopkinsa> sudo chown -r forrest /etc
[01:07] <forresthopkinsa> I tihnk that was it
[01:07] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: backup your data and reinstall
[01:07] <forresthopkinsa> aw crap
[01:07] <forresthopkinsa> is there any other way
[01:07] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: it's going to be faster than you figuring out the correct ownership.
[01:07] <forresthopkinsa> D:
[01:07] <forresthopkinsa> I tihnk I just need a way of setting the UID without sudo
[01:08] <forresthopkinsa> Or how to LOGIN as root
[01:08] <dumb_questions> couldn't you boot from a Live CD and change it?
[01:08] <forresthopkinsa> i still cant login as root >.<
[01:08] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: you don't know what the owner should be.
[01:08] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: (for every file)
[01:08] <forresthopkinsa> the owner should be root
[01:08] <forresthopkinsa> at UID 0
[01:08] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: for most files, sure.
[01:08] <forresthopkinsa> for /etc it must be root
[01:08] <Silver_Arrow> If you didn't set the root password already, it's impossible without sudo
[01:08] <forresthopkinsa> Silver_Arrow i set the password during install, didnt i
[01:08] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: no.  There are some files that are not owned by root.  The proper solution is to either reinstall or use a known-good reference
[01:09] <Silver_Arrow> root is disabled by default
[01:09] <forresthopkinsa> :(
[01:09] <Silver_Arrow> unless you go out of your way to go back and turn it on
[01:09] <forresthopkinsa> alright then. This is extraordinarily inconvenient.
[01:09] <forresthopkinsa> What silver?
[01:09] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: changing everything to be owned by root will probably work mostly, until you encounter some odd issue down the road.  Having said that, I only have files for mpd, couchdb, and privoxy in /etc not owned by root
[01:09] <forresthopkinsa> :(
[01:10] <forresthopkinsa> I needed WinSCP to have access to the files in /etc
[01:10] <forresthopkinsa> thats why I did it
[01:10] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: if you really don't want to reinstall, and just want to deal with things that may break as they come, you can just use a live cd or recovery mode
[01:10] <forresthopkinsa> aauugghh ok thank
[01:10] <forresthopkinsa> ok thank you
[01:10] <dumb_questions> forresthopkinsa: can't you boot from a Live CD or persistant USB install where you could log in anc change it back. If not, you coudl create a user in that other environment with the proper ID to have permissions
[01:10] <Silver_Arrow> forresthopkinsa: do you have a seperate /home partition?
[01:10] <forresthopkinsa> er
[01:11] <forresthopkinsa> I dont knowwwwwww I forgot
[01:11] <forresthopkinsa> I am very new to this
[01:11] <forresthopkinsa> I know what a partition is
[01:11] <forresthopkinsa> I am 99% sure my HDD is not partitioned
[01:11] <Silver_Arrow> probally not then, if you do go for reinstall back up all your data
[01:11] <forresthopkinsa> is you mean THAT kind of partition
[01:11] <forresthopkinsa> ok :/
[01:11] <forresthopkinsa> thanks
[01:11] <forresthopkinsa> One more thing
[01:12] <forresthopkinsa> How do I give WinSCP access without using /chown root
[01:12] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: define "access"
[01:12] <forresthopkinsa> UID 1000 perms
[01:12] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: huh?  What do you want to do?
[01:12] <AcidRain2012> mount --bind /var/www/dev/ /home/ftp_user/www_dev        <---- this does not work without doing chroot_local_user=NO
[01:12] <forresthopkinsa> Modify, create, delete files
[01:13] <forresthopkinsa> :AcidRain2012 was that meant for my
[01:13] <forresthopkinsa> me*
[01:13] <Silver_Arrow> Okay, so not for sure if a sollution to my audio probem was ever found, there was some bickering and a ban, and I'm lost on it again
[01:13] <AcidRain2012> forresthopkinsa, that is my issue.
[01:13] <forresthopkinsa> ohhh lol k sorry
[01:13] <AcidRain2012> im trying to allow my own local user name 'acidrain' to have permission to /var/www/
[01:13] <forresthopkinsa> I know how~!!
[01:13] <forresthopkinsa> :D
[01:13] <jrib> forresthopkinsa: well only root has permissions on those files.  So you need to be root or use sudo with a user that has sudo privileges
[01:13] <AcidRain2012> http://www.ducea.com/2006/07/27/allowing-ftp-access-to-files-outside-the-home-directory-chroot/   <--- reading from here
[01:13] <forresthopkinsa> I just did that yesterday
[01:13] <AcidRain2012> forresthopkinsa, plz tell me. good god
[01:14] <forresthopkinsa> lol
[01:14] <jrib> !permissions | AcidRain2012
[01:14] <loadid_czech> cat /proc/asound/cards Silver_Arrow
[01:14] <AcidRain2012> jrib, according to http://www.ducea.com/2006/07/27/allowing-ftp-access-to-files-outside-the-home-directory-chroot/ it doesnt say anything about changing permissions.
[01:14] <forresthopkinsa> Something along the lines of: sudo chown -r %username% /var/www
[01:14] <forresthopkinsa> :D
[01:15] <AcidRain2012> jrib, also, if i do change permissions, how is that still accessible by apache? this is what i dont understand
[01:15] <AcidRain2012> forresthopkinsa, what if i want multiple users to have access to this directory? im just lost man
[01:15] <forresthopkinsa> I know im using apache too
[01:15] <forresthopkinsa> Errr
[01:15] <dumb_questions> groups.
[01:15] <Silver_Arrow>  0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[01:15] <Silver_Arrow>                       HDA NVidia at 0xfae78000 irq 21
[01:15] <forresthopkinsa> I think they can be separated by colons
[01:15] <loadid_czech> okay, also good Silver_Arrow
[01:15] <forresthopkinsa> forrest:acid:jrib
[01:15] <jrib> AcidRain2012: "accessible" is vague.  Do you just need apache to be able to read the files there?  Because every user has read permissions by default.
[01:15] <forresthopkinsa> i tihnk
[01:16] <dumb_questions> If anyone has time and could help me with setting up Grub on a VM restored from Tar, please let me know.
[01:16] <forresthopkinsa> jrib: I tihnk he needs to be able to access them with WinSCP
[01:16] <forresthopkinsa> is that right
[01:16] <forresthopkinsa> that was my situation
[01:16] <AcidRain2012> forresthopkinsa, hmmm...... ok. lets say i have a folder: "Uploads" located in /var/www/. i want acidrain to be able to upload, and all other users be able to download and a few users upload
[01:16] <forresthopkinsa> upload/download with what
[01:17] <forresthopkinsa> should they be able to modify and/or delete files
[01:17] <jrib> AcidRain2012: the point of setting up a bind mount is so that the *chrooted* user can access things outside his chroot.
[01:17] <forresthopkinsa> alright thanks people for being so helpful. byebye now
[01:17] <loadid_czech> Silver_Arrow: are you sure you're not booted up into a different kernel than your default.. could cause some issues like that
[01:18] <jrib> why is everyone using ftp all of a sudden instead of just using sftp anyway?
[01:18] <loadid_czech> maybe on your reboot it booted into an older kernel that doesn't have the audio modules compiled correctly
[01:18] <SchrodingersScat> jrib: baby duck syndrome
[01:20] <Sillvester> sftp transfer data slower than ftp
[01:21] <Silver_Arrow> loadid_czech: Nope, booted into the latest kernel version I have installed of Xubuntu Quantal, same kernel I was running when it shut down
[01:22] <loadid_czech> i've never seen restricted audio drivers.. maybe can disable and re-enable them from the restricted drivers?  if that's even an option Silver_Arrow
[01:22] <gfeng> deepin
[01:23] <Gabboz> Hi. Two 12.04 servers(different cities on a WAN).  I plan to rsync server 1 with a dir on server 2.  How would I go about making a perm mount on server 2? Thanks.
[01:24] <Silver_Arrow> loadid_czech: erm, what?
[01:26] <Silver_Arrow> Where would I go to play with that?
[01:28] <loadid_czech> Silver_Arrow: cat /proc/asound/modules
[01:28] <Silver_Arrow>  0 snd_hda_intel
[01:28] <loadid_czech> Silver_Arrow: pavucontrol
[01:29] <Silver_Arrow> That just launched the same pulse audio applet I tried from the applications menu
[01:30] <loadid_czech> and you have the correct profile selected Silver_Arrow
[01:30] <Silver_Arrow> it's set to show all output devices if that's what you mean
[01:31] <loadid_czech> Silver_Arrow: is there a configuration tab in there? and on that tab is analog audio selected?
[01:32] <Silver_Arrow> nothing selectable on config tab
[01:33] <Silver_Arrow> < no cards available for configuration >
[01:33] <loadid_czech> there is not a drop down box?
[01:33] <Silver_Arrow> no
[01:33] <Silver_Arrow> just that text grayed out
[01:33] <pepper_chico> can one help me out with this?
[01:33] <pepper_chico> http://askubuntu.com/q/337712
[01:35] <Silver_Arrow> hmm, somebody on anther network recomended I try 'alsamixer' and all the sliders that should be in my mixer applet are there and set correctly
[01:36] <loadid_czech> Silver_Arrow: grep 'audio' /etc/group
[01:37] <Silver_Arrow> audio:x:29:pulse
[01:39] <dumb_questions> Grub help? Anyone?
[01:40] <Silver_Arrow> speaker-test -c 2
[01:40] <loadid_czech> aplay -l
[01:40] <Silver_Arrow> had no effect other than putting text in the terminal
[01:40] <Silver_Arrow> aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[01:40] <loadid_czech> okay, that's a problem
[01:40] <Dr_willis> !grub
[01:42] <loadid_czech> your drivers are not loaded Silver_Arrow
[01:43] <Silver_Arrow> but alsamixer seems to see my card o_O
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, Your trying to get a vm to boot you restored from a tar right?
[01:43] <loadid_czech> your system sees your card saying it's there... but your system doesn't know how to make it do anything
[01:45] <loadid_czech> sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[01:46] <loadid_czech> but i think we found that was loaded earlier?
[01:46] <loadid_czech> hrm.. not sure... try it anyway
[01:47] <dumb_questions> Dr_willis: Yeah, I read through some of that, but don't get it and can't get my system to boot to a newly-restored backup.
[01:48] <Silver_Arrow> no effect I think
[01:48] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  i would use that boot-repair tool and see if it fixs everything
[01:48] <loadid_czech> still can't select anything in pavucontrol?
[01:49] <Silver_Arrow> nyet
[01:49] <dumb_questions> That was my next move. The "Restore from Tar" document makes it look easy. I'll try that out. Thank you.
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, Save the url generated by the bootrepair to post here if you are not fixed with that tool.
[01:50] <dumb_questions> will do. Thank you
[01:50] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  the use of uuid's can cause issues depending on how you restore thingsd
[01:50] <dumb_questions> I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[01:51] <loadid_czech> aplay -l not showing anything is definatly wrong Silver_Arrow.. not sure how to go about fixing it, but it's where I would start
[01:52] <loadid_czech> maybe need to modprobe snd-hda-codec
[01:52] <loadid_czech> lsmod | grep snd may have some helpful data too
[01:58] <aj_> Hey folks, I have a couple questions regarding my graphics on xubuntu 13.04.  I have sandy bridge. when I do lspci -v and look under the VGA controller for the Intel GPU, it's listed and it says the kernel driver in use is the i915.  When I do lsmod, I see for video, it has two modules loaded -- i915, nouveau.  Same thing goes for drm, two modules - i915 and nouveau.  Is this normal?
[02:00] <semitones> hey
[02:00] <semitones> so if I make changes to /etc/network/interfaces, what's the command to make them take effect?
[02:01] <somsip> semitones: sudo service networking restart
[02:01] <AcidRain2012> jrib, i want them to be able to modify/access files. delete/create folders. everything i can do as root. but i only want a few users to be able to do that
[02:01] <semitones> somsip, thanks
[02:01] <AcidRain2012> i also want to host other ftp users to have access to an entirely different hdd
[02:02] <jrib> AcidRain2012: why are you doing this over ftp?  Why not just give ssh access?
[02:03] <AcidRain2012> jrib, good question! now. what type of gui clients do we have for ssh access?
[02:04] <AcidRain2012> jrib, when i am setting up a server, i think to myself 'i have to make this accessible to the most computer illiterate users from a cell phone'
[02:04] <jrib> AcidRain2012: $favorite_terminal?
[02:04] <AcidRain2012> :/
[02:04] <AcidRain2012> jrib, and this is why i am chosing to stay with ftp instead of ssh
[02:04] <jrib> AcidRain2012: computer illiterate users shouldn't be editing /etc from a cell phone
[02:04] <jewfaloosha> im new here
[02:04] <jewfaloosha> i dont even know what this is lol
[02:05] <AcidRain2012> jrib, lulz. point. but the illiterate user we are talking about is a good friend of mine who knows enough about html to put a "<BR>" in a file. which is what im trying to let them do. in a GUI manner
[02:05] <semitones> dpkg -i some.deb, that's how you install?
[02:05] <AcidRain2012> jewfaloosha, #ubuntu-offtopic. kthx
[02:05] <aj_> hello folks
[02:05] <nrogers64> Hi guys, I have 12.04 on a laptop and wanted a quick/easy way to turn off the screen without closing the lid and without waiting for it to turn off by itself. I ended up using a simple shell script that sleeps for two seconds and then runs "xset dpms force off" and then I made a Unity taskbar icon (code: http://pastebin.com/gCrt3rgw). I used Terminal=true because with Terminal=false the icon only works once. Why does it only work
[02:06] <jrib> AcidRain2012: so just give their user permission on the directory with html; ubottu sent you the permissions page
[02:06] <guest__> hi
[02:06] <guest__> anyone there?
[02:06] <nrogers64> guest__ Yes
[02:06] <AcidRain2012> !me | permissions
[02:06] <guest__> so im trying to boot fedora on my pc via usb and i keep getting this error http://imgur.com/XUvFo24
[02:06] <jrib> !permissions | AcidRain2012
[02:06] <AcidRain2012> ah, make it send again
[02:07] <Whiskey`Wonka> AcidRain2012: you wont really beable to do that, ftp is insecure (plain text passwords). you should just use a https file interface
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> guest__, fedora has there own channel
[02:07] <holstein> nrogers64: what errors do you get in the terminal if you run it?
[02:07] <AcidRain2012> Whiskey`Wonka, so what is the most up to date GUI secure method?
[02:07] <guest__> anyone know the reason why?
[02:07] <jrib> AcidRain2012: you can just let them use sftp with, for example, winscp on windows
[02:07] <guest__> r/fedora ?
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> !fedora
[02:07] <Whiskey`Wonka> AcidRain2012: i would need to know a lot more about your real needs
[02:07] <AcidRain2012> jrib, im gonna look up winscp. havent seen a windows logo in about 7 yrs now
[02:08] <dumb_questions> ok, ran the boot repair on my VM. I selected the correct disk and don't get an error now. Instsead it boots to a black screen with a single cursor and just hangs. Here's the URL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6030935/
[02:08] <jrib> AcidRain2012: I assumed you needed a windows client
[02:08] <AcidRain2012> jrib, i assume the world outside of me uses windows. lol
[02:08] <jrib> ok
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> guest__, /j #fedora it is not supported here. ;)
[02:09] <nrogers64> holstein: I don't get an error. The thing I don't like about having Terminal=true is that even though the icon always works, it's kind of ugly having a blank terminal window open before the screen turns off. When Terminal=false, the icon still works, but only once. I'm guessing the terminal opened by the icon is still running in the background
[02:09] <AcidRain2012> Whiskey`Wonka, my needs are to allow certain users to ftp into /var/www/FOLDER and have full access/permissions. i also want to allow ALL users to have read permissions on all of my external hdds
[02:09] <Whiskey`Wonka> wow thats ...
[02:09] <Whiskey`Wonka> use FS2Web i think its caled
[02:10] <holstein> nrogers64: sounds plausible.. you might look into some other way to issue that command.. a script the shortcut references
[02:10] <AcidRain2012> Whiskey`Wonka, now will that also allow ALL users to upload to a folder called 'Uploads' on all external hdds?
[02:10] <nrogers64> holstein: The script already is referencing a script. Exec=/home/nrogers64/Documents/monitor-off.sh
[02:11] <nrogers64> holstein: Sorry, I meant the *shortcut* already is referencing a script
[02:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> it has a lot of config options, last i used it it was just ot get files inhttp://www.macvendorlookup.com/to my smarttv that didnt like my dlna server
[02:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> ba
[02:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> sorry dumped the clipboard
[02:12] <AcidRain2012> Whiskey`Wonka, yea im reading about it. not sure i like that method. im going to do more research on sftp and see what type of gui clients we have
[02:12] <holstein> nrogers64: i think the answer will be in what error you are getting in the terminal when running the command.. if there is none, then the shortcut is the issue.. and the run in terminal option may be the "best" way to deal with it
[02:12] <nrogers64> holstein: Yeah, there is no error
[02:13] <Whiskey`Wonka> you will not be happy with sftp, mostly cause it has crap clients on phones
[02:13] <nrogers64> holstein: I guess I was basically just wondering if I was doing something wrong. I guess not, though, so I'll leave it the way it is. It's ugly, but it works
[02:13] <holstein> nrogers64: no error message? or no problem at all?
[02:13] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee, Dr_willis: did you see the URL?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, No can you post it again.
[02:14] <dumb_questions> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6030935/
[02:14] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: it's just hanging at a black screen with single cursor.
[02:15] <AcidRain2012> http://kpdirection.com/technology/setting-up-sftp-on-ubuntu/   <--- ill be following this guide, and binding folders as needed
[02:15] <nrogers64> holstein: Manually running "xset dpms force off" in a termal window works just fine. It turns the monitor off and doesn't have any errors. Clicking on the taskbar icon that I made for the script also works, but with Terminal=false, it only works once. If I wake the monitor back up and then click the icon again, nothing happens
[02:15] <AcidRain2012> how do i force the removal of config files when uninstalling a program?
[02:17] <nrogers64> Silver_Arrow: Is that a reference to Zelda?
[02:17] <Silver_Arrow> sombody on another network finally resolved it, but thank you for the help
[02:17] <Silver_Arrow> No
[02:18] <Silver_Arrow> The Mercedes-AMG Formula 1 car, and the original 'silver arrow' car from the 1930's
[02:18] <rap424> Can anyone help me figure out why I get this fdisk error: "fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdb: No medium found" when the drive shows up in disk utility?
[02:18] <rap424>
[02:18] <nrogers64> Silver_Arrow: Ah
[02:19] <holstein> rap424: no/bad filesystem?
[02:19] <rap424> holstein: but shouldn't fdisk take care of that?
[02:19] <holstein> rap424: what are you trying to do?
[02:19] <rap424> holstein: The last I checked this drive mounted on a Mac (two partitions)
[02:19] <rap424> holstein: reformat it and DD my computer's hard drive partitions to it
[02:20] <holstein> rap424: since the last time you check, that hard drive chould have failed. im not saying it has..
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, 11.04 is end of life to start with there was an error in the grub install to the mbr, I suspect somewhere in that tar something was not saved correctly, not sure completely to be honest.
[02:20] <holstein> rap424: i would use gparted, and seee if i can format the driver
[02:20] <holstein> drive*
[02:20] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset | dumb_questions
[02:20] <rap424> holstein: Ok, I'll give that a go
[02:20] <rap424> holstein: thanks
[02:20] <holstein> rap424: good luck!..
[02:22] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee, Dr_willis: thanks. Next I'll track down nomodeset. As for 11.04: owner is scared to update anything for fear of breaking. That's why I'm checking their backups.
[02:22] <rap424> holstein: not showing up in gparted
[02:23] <Dr_willis> !11.04
[02:23] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  id be more scared of lack of updated.
[02:23] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  id be more scared of lack of updates and security fixs
[02:24] <dumb_questions> Dr_willis: tell me about it. In reality it has no internet-facing work going on, so not the end of the world. Still...
[02:25] <ironfoot495> Hello is there sdomeone who can help me solve the problem with apache2 not taking php files?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> easyest way to backup would be to  use dd to image the whole hard drive to a spare external USB hd i imagine dumb_questions .
[02:26] <dumb_questions> yeah, they have bacukps. That's what I'm working from. They create a full-drive Tar backup. So messed up...
[02:26] <ironfoot495> I've googled ever place all day and still have'nt found the right answer!!!
[02:27] <somsip> ironfoot495: taking?
[02:28] <Jesse> what is a kernal in regards to fedora?
[02:28] <ironfoot495> somsip: yes can you help me?
[02:28] <somsip> ironfoot495: I don't know. You haven't described your problem very clearly yet
[02:28] <Dr_willis> ironfoot495,  clarify the problem to the channel
[02:28] <mobile> hey has anyone ever got this error before from ssh error: connect_to whatever: unknown host (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
[02:28] <rap424> holstein: drive wasn't seated properly in the external case =/
[02:28] <dumb_questions> Dr_willis: btw, my next project -- once I verify the backups they ahve are good -- is to set up RAID1 internal and to set two or more external drives rotated for backup, probably using rdiff-backup
[02:29] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  i stick to simple solutions for backups. normally i just backup my impiorntant files. i rarely backup the whole OS. i dont see the point
[02:29] <ironfoot495> somsip: Well I have installed 12.04 today and I can get apache2 to see php files
[02:29] <somsip> ironfoot495: Do you mean "can't"?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> !lamp | ironfoot495
[02:30] <{bosco}> i have a logitech c525 hd webcam. I did some research on my own to make sure it would work https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech says it will out of the box. Skype works with video but no voice Gnome-sound-recorder no audio what is wrong?
[02:32] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: yeah. In this case they're overly paranoid and it's a business server. They want to feel like they're as protected as possible. Still, they bought a consumer machine to use as the server. Sometimes I just don't get it.
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> {bosco}, You probably have to go through the sound settings to see if you are set up correctly.
[02:33] <{bosco}> wilee-nilee: i have already went through alsamixer and nothing wrong there
[02:34] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: sorry I'm new to this. I can't set any boot settings on this install. This does not work: To set kernel boot options, you must edit your grub configuration. You can do this temporarily for a single boot by entering the grub menu. If you do not get to see the grub boot menu after the bios automatically, you may have to press SHIFT key after the bios logo to get in to grub:
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> {bosco}, not the alsa mixer but the sound settings gui I have a logitech I forget what I had to do, as far as skype its not the best in linux generally, I always used windows.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  if grub is hidden Hold shift to edit the options. or boot into the os and unhide it by default and edit /etc/default/grub as needed normally.
[02:36] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  so DO you see a grub menu  with or without holding shift?
[02:36] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: I did as those instrcutions say and held shift. no difference at all. I'm not sure what you mean to boot into the OS and unhide it -- machine doesn't boot at all, taht's my problem. I could boot from a live CD, would that do it?
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, The script showed no grub bootloader in the mbr, and an error trying to put it there.
[02:37] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: I get nothing. I get the virtual box intro screen that says to hit f12 for boot options and then it goes straight to black with single cursor
[02:37] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: Trying to learn this. Where do you see that and what do I do to fix it?
[02:38] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  virtualbox? hmm..  so this is a image of a real system you are trying to boot in vbox?
[02:38] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: I see the error at the top (line 4) but don't kow what I do..
[02:38] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: yes.
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, Top of the script starts with saying what the mbr has, its empty, at the end of the script is the run fixes.
[02:39] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: seemed like the best way to be sure a backup is working
[02:39] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions, its very likely the video drivers are confused. and im not sure how well the UUID's would translate to the vm installed system
[02:39] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  is this a text only server?
[02:39] <Dr_willis> no X system at all?
[02:40] <{bosco}> anyone?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, "No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda."  read lines starting at 608
[02:40] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: probably not. I just started working on it and the don't have a monitor at all. They 'administer' it through webmin and ssh.
[02:41] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: thanks. just did. That's curious. Do you think there was a permissions error?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  see if you can ssh into the vm after it boots perhaps.
[02:42] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  and its best to avoid webmin.
[02:42] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: that's what they know and what they were taught. Someone set this thing up for them, showed them how to do a few things and isn't there any longer. Trying to get them out of a hole here.
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, Not sure to be honest, when I read that tar instructions it looked like something I would not even attempt personally, since there are easier ways, and could easily be run without a complete understanding.
[02:43] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  boot a ubuntu iso or a boot-repair iso in the vm and try the boot-repair tool inside the vm to setup a proper bootloader for the system
[02:43] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: I'm very interested. I have a Tar backup of the entire system. If you can get me a better way than those instruciotns, fantastic!
[02:43] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  clonezilla would be a lot easier way to backup a system.
[02:44] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: that's what I did. I booted from a live CD ISO and ran it as root.
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, Dr_willis mentioned one as far as the system backup with a dd, I would have used clonezilla myself.
[02:44] <dumb_questions> dr_Willis: agreed. However, they want multiple versions.
[02:45] <delinquentme> so I'm attempting to use
[02:45] <Dr_willis> and how did they make the backups?
[02:45] <delinquentme> sshfs carl@dopamine:/home/carl/www ~/www  ...  and getting a complaint from bash that fuse: bad mount point `/home/thrive/www': No such file or directory
[02:46] <dumb_questions> I plan to change around the backup scheme soon, but for now this is what I have. They tar / and exclude a few items.
[02:46] <delinquentme> I thought sshfs is supposed to make that dir when it establishes the connection
[02:46] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  so the UUID's for all the drives are totally different.   you will need to check fstab and the grub files  after booting that live cd i imagine
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, I will say though this is a very limited area for me, I know how to read that script quite well, however as it gets more complex Dr_willis is much more knowledgeable in any area I know for sure. ;)
[02:49] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: and from those instructions I thought this was going to be relatively painless--- goes to show you..
[02:50] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: got me beat all-around. good catch on the failed script. I figured, "Heck, it's linux. I can just unpack the files, mount the drive, point to it and go." so much for that.
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> when done right it basically is
[02:51] <AcidRain2012> where are the server logs for sshd located?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Its the bootloader and configs you are having an issue with right nopw. not the OS
[02:51] <dumb_questions> dr_willis, wilee-nilee: I'm booting from a live cd iso again and will see if I can't configure Grub manually using those instructions.
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, I like clonezilla it save the bootloader, a generally easy fix but seems to a bit harder in these circumstances.
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> saves*
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> you might just need to chroot it yourself from the live cd
[02:53] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: I'll do more looking at clonezilla. Seems more efficient space-wise to use rdriff-backup that way I can store many months of backups without using much space.
[02:54] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: you mean like this? sudo -s
[02:54] <dumb_questions> for f in dev dev/pts proc ; do mount --bind /$f /media/whatever/$f ; done
[02:54] <dumb_questions> chroot /media/whatever
[02:54] <dumb_questions> dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[02:54] <dumb_questions> dang cut-paste of line breaks
[02:57] <delinquentme> so im attempting to run sublime text
[02:59] <Alviur> Hi, Do you know some program to serial communication  between ubuntu and microcontrollers?
[03:01] <dumb_questions> dr_willis, wilee-nilee: I'm really failing at understanding grub. I'm trying those commands and getting nowhere. This means almost nothign to me and I don't know how to troubleshoot. I assume I need to change paths, but not sure which and to what.  for f in dev dev/pts proc ; do mount --bind /$f /media/whatever/$f ; done
[03:01] <sepero> pie_image.jpg
[03:01] <sepero> pie_image.jpg
[03:02] <Dr_willis> that would be from the 'root' of  your chrooted system looks like.
[03:02] <sepero> pie_image.jpg
[03:02] <sepero> pie_image.jpg
[03:03] <Dr_willis> if you mounted the system to /mnt/ and chroot /mnt/ it would be  'cd /' (thats the root of the CHROOTED system now) and then do the commands
[03:03] <AcidRain2012> where is the transmission binary file located? when clicking on a torrent link it asks me to choose an application. transmission, nor anything else, is listed
[03:03] <dumb_questions> my first step was "sudo -s" is that what you mean?
[03:03] <Dr_willis> dumb_questions,  that just gave you a root shell.
[03:03] <dumb_questions> gotcha. I bet it's not currently mounted. Silly me
[03:03] <Dr_willis> I dont recall ever needing such a command when i repaired grub in the psat.
[03:03] <Dr_willis> past
[03:03] <dumb_questions> nope, it is. just now where I thought
[03:04] <Dr_willis> the command you pasted dosent make a lot of sence to me really.   i just recall putting /proc/ and /dev/ in the chrooted location
[03:05] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: you just made my night. I was having trouble making heads-or-tails of that. Thougth I was just dumb
[03:06] <Dr_willis> the arch linux wiki pages may have a slightly clearer guide on chrooting and repairing grub. but it wont be ubuntu specific
[03:06] <Dr_willis> i recall you dont even have to chroot these days. 'update-grub' has some option to tell it where the hd is at.
[03:07] <dumb_questions> you'd think that reapir util could do it (and I think it tried, but failed
[03:07] <WACOMalt> hello folks. I am having trouble with sensors/pwmconfig/fancontrol. my fan runs too slow and I can run it much faster in windows. I am on a laptop (HP Elitebook 8540w) I have downloaded sensors, and when I run pwmconfig I get an error about not finding any pwm sensors. Fancontrol gives an error about no config files and that I need to run pwmconfig. This fan is easily controllable on windows via a utility called HWinfo32
[03:08] <Dr_willis> boot-repair tool can make a rather verbose log of what its done and any errors it had found
[03:08] <Dr_willis> ive rarely had it fail. but for all we know your 'backups' may be missing critical files
[03:08] <dumb_questions> I pasted that link before.
[03:09] <dumb_questions> you nailed exactly why we're going through this excercise.
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> WACOMalt, You installed lm-sensors?
[03:09] <WACOMalt> yes
[03:09] <dumb_questions> if it helps any I can show you the command to back up. Not sure what is best at this point. I just ran into another error: chroot: fialed to run command '/bin/bash': exec format error"
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> WACOMalt, sounded like you had just checking.
[03:10] <WACOMalt> no problem, thanks
[03:11] <Dr_willis> mount the system. (i guess you did) cd to the mountpoint and see if theres  a bin/bash file and other system directories
[03:11] <Dr_willis> exec format error - sounds like the binary is bad.
[03:13] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: i see /bin/bash
[03:13] <WACOMalt> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed   Can anyone help with this?
[03:13] <iconex> can I help you ?
[03:13] <dumb_questions> received that exec error when I tried to run the next command ton that list: chroot /media/whatever (changed to the mounted location)
[03:14] <Dr_willis> you arent using a 32bit iso file/live cd - to work on a 64bit install? or visa versa are you?
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, This is what I have used when chrooting it defaults to it line 8 is the actual chroot, Dr_willis may be right as far as missing fixes or broken a broken binary so this is just another chroot method. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[03:17] <dumb_questions> dr_willis: sadly, I don't know what their install is. I have ISOs for either.
[03:17] <Dr_willis> you really dont need to chroot to reinstall grub these days.  you need to  be sure to use the same 'bitness' live cd as the system you are trying to fix also.
[03:18] <Dr_willis> virtualbox can do both 32 and 64bit I belive these days.  I wonder if THAT may be the issue.. if its a 64bit install and you are using 32bit vbox.
[03:18] <Dr_willis> or visa-versa
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> true I have not chrooted for a long time, I have seen it needed for really unknown reasons by other users.
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> I rarely have to fix grub, when I do I use supergrub to get in
[03:20] <dumb_questions> I wonder if you're right. I'll see which cd I'm booting from and switch it up. In fact, I've just been picking one each time and think one time I saw an error about i386 vs x64 and just picked another ISO. I'll give that a run
[03:22] <xmetal> hmm ... fighiting a loosing battle with my old laptop atm
[03:22] <xmetal> losing*
[03:28] <dumb_questions> small update: have to reboot to see if I'm not having trouble with something a little deeper.
[03:28] <krz> gah! hate skype on linux! any other alternatives?
[03:30] <somsip> !voip | krz (also !sip)
[03:36] <dumb_questions> dr_willis, wilee-nilee: managed to boot from a 64-bit cd. I'll try running the boot repair again now.
[03:37] <ice9> how to stop the NetworkManager and disable the auto start of it?
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> ice9, You might look here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> stopping is the easy part
[03:46] <ice9> wilee-nilee, NM starts automatically after stop network-manager
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> ice9, This Ethernet or wifi, just out of curiosity, and why is this important, not sure of an answer just curious.
[03:49] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee, dr_willis: just ran boot-repair and it worked this time. rebooting...
[03:51] <dumb_questions> and I have grub...
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> heh cool
[03:52] <dumb_questions> of course it says the disks weren't properly unmounted (duh) and it's runnign a check.
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> holy fsck batman
[03:54] <dumb_questions> and we're live. Thanks wilee-nilee and dr_willis
[03:55] <dumb_questions> now I can see how corrupted their mysql databases are using this method (they don't shut down connections to them before they tar thewhole thing.
[03:55] <dumb_questions> ls
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> glad you got it figured out
[03:56] <exported> so why do peoples ip's show on this server?
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> you need a mask to block it
[03:57] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: glad you and dr_willis got it figured out. Thanks again.
[03:57] <exported> i know you need a mask it just seems like it should already be masked right?
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> exported, I would ask in #freenode
[03:57] <dumb_questions> btw, the problem was I'm dumb. 64-bit guest OSes wouldn't boot because I had hardware virtualization off in teh bios. Doh.
[04:01] <dumb_questions> wilee-nilee: now looking ahead. how would you handle this? All is one one partition at this point. They use this server for shared documents and for SugarCRM (so php, mysql, apache). I want to plan for quick recovery should the whole place catch fire. So, should i have multiple partitions on the internal drive? Seems like that's obvious. Then I can choose to recover the entire contents or just
[04:01] <dumb_questions> the partitions holding applications and /or user files.
[04:02] <AcidRain2012> what if we recoded this channels conversations since it first started. line for line. then when someone asked a question, it would reply relevant lines in order to the users statements. and they had a conversation with a bot, made up of conversations weve had combine. good idea eh
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, I have never messed with a server I just clone my OS's on occasion to save time, I actually have everything off the computer on externals in general.
[04:03] <dumb_questions> acitrain2012: sounds like Google mixed with a sales rep from a cable provider. I just threw up a little in my mouth.
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> dumb_questions, But I save the sources.list and sources.list.d and the installed apps and any extra keys to do a fast install if needed.
[04:04] <dumb_questions> thanks,wilee-nilee. Time for bed. Got a lot to learn. They're looking at moving to a hosted CMS and then they should move to a simple NAS methinks. At taht point they have less to worry about and might save a lot of money.
[04:26] <pvl1> hey does anyone know the port for l2tp i need to forward
[04:26] <james-ubc> err quick question, how do I get rid of the errros in a print out
[04:26] <james-ubc> like if I do df * but don't want all the cant read x errors
[04:28] <eSoul> Hey guys, I am running an Ubuntu 13.04 server box and I have a 2nd network card for my VirtualBox VMs.  Right now, I have to issue a "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" on boot to start the interface but I was wondering if there something something in /etc/network/interfaces I could put in to bring the interface up at boot.   It have no network configuration on it at all, just looking to "turn-on" the
[04:28] <eSoul> interface
[04:28] <Dr_willis> the thing to rember is that the * is expanded by the shell. not the app.  if theres lines you dont want, use grep to filter them out.
[04:29] <pvl1> james-ubc: u mean like grep -v ?
[04:31] <james-ubc> bad example but say
[04:31] <james-ubc> I wanted to do something like du -hs * but don't want the errors showing up
[04:31] <ubuntu_user> Hi there, while installing ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS from Live DVD, i get some following error in message box: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6031243/
[04:32] <Dr_willis> then dont use *  ;)
[04:32] <Dr_willis> or filter out the errors with grep
[04:32] <Silver_Arrow> is there a way to set up a keyboard shortcut to remove mouse focus from whatever window currently has it?
[04:32] <pvl1> ubuntu_user: uhm... try to clean the disk?
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu_user, Have you checked the md5sum on the disk, and run a smart check from the live cd in disks?
[04:33] <ubuntu_user> And at the below of ubiquity installer progess bar, i get these lines, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6031246/
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> sum the iso actually
[04:33] <ubuntu_user> A second
[04:34] <james-ubc> oh k
[04:35] <james-ubc> got it
[04:35] <james-ubc> thanks
[04:35] <Silver_Arrow> this game locks onto the cursor during play which is fine, the mouse is used for steering, but in the menus when I have a cursor, it's trapped in the window
[04:35] <eSoul> ubuntu_user:  In my own experience, I have a lot more luck using the ISO's to make USB sticks.  My Burners/Readers have been flakey in the past
[04:36] <eSoul> If the md5sum is correct on the iso, the problem could be with your burner, reader, or the disc itself
[04:36] <xmetal>  brb ... going to grab a snack after fighting my old laptop and losing
[04:37] <ubuntu_user> wilee-nilee, eSoul : Here's the output of "md5sum ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso"  >>  7e106efc41cae638aac9dc063b7e4053  ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso
[04:37] <ubuntu_user> Is this correct?
[04:37] <eSoul> ill check
[04:38] <ubuntu_user> wilee-nilee: And how to run smart check from live cd on disks?
[04:39] <joshuag> help
[04:39] <joshuag> trying to install stuff on ubuntu its a .bundle file
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu_user, In the disks app it runs one automatically just look at what it says.
[04:40] <eSoul> ubuntu_user: That is the incorrect md5sum
[04:40] <eSoul> ubuntu_user: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/MD5SUMS
[04:41] <Dr_willis> joshuag,  and where did this come from? i cant recall ever seeing that 'term' for a ubuntu or linux package/app
[04:41] <ubuntu_user> lol. How can it be? I downloaded it with IDM on windows and it was completely downloaded..
[04:42] <Dr_willis> downloads can fail/get messed up.
[04:42] <joshuag> i am tryin to install vmware on ubuntu
[04:42] <ubuntu_user> eSoul: Should i now go for torrent?
[04:42] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[04:42] <eSoul> Try to use a torrent client if you can
[04:42] <ubuntu_user> ok
[04:42] <eSoul> Yes, at least with a torrent client, there is a checksum process as well
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, Try #vmware
[04:42] <joshuag> figured out why my ubuntu was frezzeing it needed nvidia drivers for my video card
[04:43] <eSoul> I am not for sure if it is md5sum, but there is something
[04:43] <joshuag> i dont even know how to install things on ubuntu
[04:44] <joshuag> what kinda file do i need to one click install like an exe file in windows
[04:44] <ubuntu_user> eSoul: Maybe. Does this line at ubiquity installer status bar represent same, "ubuntu kernel: [ 681.498008] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read fragment cache entry [5e45ffa]" ?
[04:45] <Silver_Arrow> joshuag: Use synaptic and install from the repositories
[04:45] <eSoul> ubuntu_user: Just a general "cant read a datablock correctly" error
[04:45] <joshuag> ok so how do i install synaptic
[04:45] <eSoul> ubuntu_user: To be specific, if is trying to read the Live DVD filesystem and failed
[04:45] <rocko88> hi !!
[04:45] <Moseco> Does anyone know a good way to play windows only games on linux?
[04:46] <ubuntu_user> ok
[04:46] <rocko88> steam o wine
[04:47] <Silver_Arrow> Steam doesn't let you play windows games
[04:47] <Dr_willis> !manual | joshuag
[04:47] <rocko88> no games native in linux !!
[04:47] <Silver_Arrow> and the games from it can never be played without steam, and can be revoked easily
[04:47] <Dr_willis> joshuag,  you use the package manager tools - like software center, or synaptic.
[04:48] <Dr_willis> joshuag,  its best to stick with whats in the repos.  downloading stuff to install from web sites - is the exception, not the rule on ubuntu
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Steam, wine, or  the windows Steam via Wine. ;)
[04:49] <rocko88> yeah
[04:49] <Silver_Arrow> Virtual Box running XP or 7 if wine doesn't work
[04:49] <Dr_willis> vbox for games.. id rather just boot to windows. ;)
[04:49] <Silver_Arrow> wine is kinda hit and miss
[04:49] <rocko88> use steam for native games
[04:49] <Silver_Arrow> ewsteam
[04:49] <Dr_willis> Life is hit or miss at times.
[04:49] <Silver_Arrow> :P
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Steam is one of the best 'app market places' out there.
[04:50] <rocko88> no vbox
[04:50] <No_one_at_all> quick question: what address do root emails usually get sent to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:51] <No_one_at_all> quick question #2: what would be a quick way to get some process to send an email to root? I've got a MTA + MDA set up locally with virtual accounts, and I've had trouble getting root emails. Something about "(myserverdomain) loops back to myself"
[05:00] <GamersCorp> Hi there. I'm trying to make apache2 start on boot. How can I do this?
[05:01] <GamersCorp> Can someone help me make apache2 start on boot?
[05:01] <tjfdfs> guys . I have a big problem ----
[05:01] <tjfdfs> the unity is gone
[05:02] <tjfdfs> I install an application, and it put a shortcut icon at desktop
[05:02] <tjfdfs> then unity can't work any more
[05:02] <tjfdfs> even I uninstall the application caused this error
[05:02] <tjfdfs> how can i fix the unity
[05:03] <tjfdfs> I try fix this through ccsm
[05:03] <tjfdfs> but still not luck
[05:03] <tjfdfs> anyone can help?
[05:06] <Kurvivor> hello
[05:06] <Kurvivor> my system is 32-bit
[05:06] <Kurvivor> but i need to compile a library as x64
[05:07] <Kurvivor> i tried passing appropriate switch to gcc command line, but that causes an errir due to missing headers
[05:07] <Kurvivor> what libraries/headers need to be installed for x64 development?
[05:10] <tjfdfs> I find a solution at askubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration/202020#202020
[05:10] <tjfdfs> thanks this guy
[05:10] <tjfdfs> unity comes back!
[05:13] <Dr_willis> tjfdfs,  it was some user setting causing the issue. Most likely not the application.
[05:15] <tjfdfs> Dr_willis,  I don't konw . I didn't configure anything for unity actually. but I'll install that app again to figure out that. Thanks.
[05:17] <netwrkspider> hi
[05:17] <netwrkspider> guys
[05:18] <egorka> qu qu
[05:23] <Moseco> I have a question about how wine works, If you use steam through it can you launch games through steam or do you have to find them in the win db?
[05:29] <Moseco> I have a question about how wine works, If you use steam through it can you launch games through steam or do you have to find them in the win db and launch the game through wine?
[05:33] <xmetal> back
[05:35] <iceroot_> Moseco: you can start them with steam directly
[05:35] <iceroot_> Moseco: there is also steam for linux
[05:35] <iceroot_> Moseco: and for wine specific questions they have there own channel #winehq
[05:38] <Moseco> iceroot_: Thank you
[05:44] <adiaz1701> exit
[05:56] <egorka> 123
[06:04] <nde2hxl> hi Ububegin
[06:08] <nde2hxl> hi Ububegin, are u there?
[06:09] <nisheet_lall> Hi
[06:11] <Ububegin> nde2hxl:  yup.. am here..
[06:15] <John83> Hello, several months ago I upgraded my kernel.  I knew what version it was so I could type it in at the boot menu by hitting e for edit. I thought that I made modifications to the menu.lst file to point to the right kernel but it looks like it didn't happen.  Is there a way for me to look at the hard drive contents for the correct kernel at the boot menu or do I need to boot to a live cd and
[06:15] <John83> look at the hard drive contents?
[06:16] <ps1quiKo> hello! :D
[06:16] <ps1quiKo> do someone know any channel in spanish, pls? :)
[06:18] <netwrkspider> hi nishant
[06:18] <netwrkspider> hi nisheet
[06:20] <nisheet_lall> Hello ntwrkspider
[06:20] <nisheet_lall> :-P
[06:22] <netwrkspider> @nisheet_lall : whats up?
[06:23] <nisheet_lall> Stuck on the flyover on the way to office
[06:23] <AcidRain2012> cat /dev/null > /etc/pam.d/vsftpd    <--- what exactlly does this line do? trying to setup vsftp server
[06:23] <nisheet_lall> :-D
[06:26] <Ben64> AcidRain2012: seems like it'd erase that file
[06:27] <AcidRain2012> Ben64, how sure are you? lol.
[06:27] <netwrkspider> @Acid_rain : erase that file
[06:28] <Ben64> AcidRain2012: about 100%
[06:29] <anonee> hello, any idea about how to have different icons in each workspace? I tried AWN but it didn't work as I expected, no icons are showing at all, if there's a good guide that I can follow?
[06:30] <krz> i have a file ~
[06:30] <krz> what the hell is that?
[06:30] <ikonia> krz: just the name of a file
[06:30] <krz> dont recall creating it
[06:30] <ikonia> probably a typo as ~ = /home/$username
[06:30] <krz> i cant rm ~
[06:30] <ikonia> krz: rm \~
[06:31] <ikonia> krz: need to escape it
[06:31] <krz> ah thanks
[06:31] <anonee> i think the whole idea of having multiple workspaces with the same icons in each one is pointless! just please let me know if there's a proper way to change that!
[06:31] <Fender> Hi there, I have a big problem and I have no clue as to what this is about: Since yesterday some weird things dont work anymore on my Ubuntu PCs: Firefox and Chromium on JS sites (takes ages), sending eMails, Dropbox
[06:31] <Fender> I write this here because on my old XP laptop the stuff still works
[06:31] <krz> ah must have created it accidently using tmux
[06:31] <ikonia> kedder:  common reason
[06:32] <Fender> but I have no clue what connects these things so I dont know what to look for
[06:32] <Fender> maybe its not JS but HTTPS
[06:33] <Fender> anyhow, I cannot communicate outwards now
[06:33] <Fender> except here obviously
[06:33] <anonee> anyone?
[06:34] <ikonia> anonee: anyone what ? saying "anyone" is pointless
[06:34] <egorka> 123
[06:35] <anonee> ikonia: how to have different icons in each workspace? I tried AWN but it didn't work as I expected, no icons are showing at all, if there's a good guide that I can follow?
[06:35] <ikonia> anonee: that is a limitation of the desktop at the moment
[06:49] <xadillax> hey all
[06:49] <xadillax> i can't grub my windows 7
[06:49] <xadillax> SOS
[06:50] <xadillax> it's black screen when i enter win7 selection
[06:50] <xadillax> anyone?
[06:51] <xadillax> emmmmm...
[06:53] <Cookie> Люди, помогите пожалуйста в настройке тачпада(
[06:53] <bazhang> !ru | Cookie
[06:53] <xadillax> i can't grub my windows
[06:53] <xadillax> SOSSOS
[06:53] <bazhang> !grub2 | xadillax have a read
[06:54] <RowBot> hello world!
[06:55] <xadillax> no
[06:55] <xadillax> i tried several methods
[06:55] <xadillax> it was like that:
[06:55] <xadillax> the grub has the selection of windows
[06:55] <xadillax> and when i entered
[06:55] <bazhang> !enter | xadillax
[06:55] <xadillax> it just shows a black screen
[06:55] <xadillax> i tried boot-repair
[06:56] <xadillax> oops, sry
[06:56] <bazhang> xadillax, dont use the enter key so often, and be patient. space out 10-15 minutes between questions, not five seconds
[06:57] <xadillax> ah, sry.
[06:58] <JuicyJ> !enter | bazhang
[06:58] <JuicyJ> =D
[06:58] <JuicyJ> neat
[06:58] <xadillax> the question is: i tried several methods but doesn't work. the grub menu has the selection of windows 7, but when i entered, it just shows a black screen. i tried boot-repair also.
[06:59] <JuicyJ> that's not a question actually...
[06:59] <a-little-rabbit> you can chainloader /bootmgr
[06:59] <bazhang> JuicyJ, play with the bot in /msg      NOT here
[07:00] <xadillax> who knows how to solve?
[07:01] <ikonia> xadillax: if people knew how to solve/help you - they will respond
[07:01] <frinklh> [23:58] (xadillax) can you post the bootinfo script url.that was generated
[07:01] <xadillax> @frinklh, you mean the grub.cfg?
[07:02] <frinklh> No running the boot repair app automatically generates a url that tell you to save it
[07:03] <helmut_> hi
[07:03] <reisio> hi
[07:03] <frinklh> Xadillx
[07:04] <xadillax> i am doing.. @frincklh
[07:05] <frinklh> [00:01] (xadillax) run it again with just the bootinfo script only, it is a detailed script of what is on the he and booting info.
[07:06] <frinklh> He*
[07:07] <xadillax> Please write on a paper the following URL:
[07:07] <xadillax> http://paste2.org/new-paste
[07:07] <xadillax> In case you still experience boot problem, indicate this URL to:
[07:07] <xadillax><EMAIL_ADDRESS>or to your favorite support forum.
[07:07] <FloodBot1> xadillax: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <xadillax> No change has been performed on your computer.it shows that
[07:07] <xadillax> sry
[07:07] <Silver_Arrow> How might I go about setting a keyboard shortcut up to remove mouse focus from the window that has it?
[07:08] <Silver_Arrow> pbt: ?
[07:09] <frinklh> [00:07] (xadillax) a url isgenerated to the script I'm wanting to see the whole script.
[07:09] <xadillax> @frinklh i don't know how to get the script
[07:10] <xadillax> use vim /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:10] <xadillax> ?
[07:10] <frinklh> [00:09] (xadillax) open the app hit the bootinfo scipt button.
[07:11] <xadillax> four buttons: recommended repair, create a bootinfo summary, about, quit
[07:12] <frinklh>  (xadillax) when you ran it the first time a popup told you to save the url to this script, it is a key to using to tool to diagnose the problem.
[07:12] <frinklh> [00:11] (xadillax) run the create a bootinfo summary,
[07:14] <xadillax> http://paste2.org/sP7z8O3t it's the only thing the repairer said. @frinklh
[07:15] <Xentinel> is there some way to verify that Intel Turbo is being utilized on Ubuntu?
[07:20] <xadillax> @frinklh http://paste2.org/Ap2c2ZP9 this is the grub.cfg
[07:20] <frinklh> (xadallix) Then click the "Recommended repair" button. When repair is finished, note the URL (paste.ubuntu.com/XXXXX) that appeared on a paper, then reboot and check if you recovered access to your OSs. Read this on the boot repair wiki
[07:21] <frinklh> [00:20] (xadillax) do you know what a pastebin is
[07:22] <ludwig_> hey guys, i have an external SD card ive hooked up to my pc but for some reason all of the sd cards i put in come up as read only
[07:22] <frinklh> Sorry I see you do the grub.cry does nothing we need that script
[07:22] <frinklh> Cfg*
[07:25] <aegoes> hello all
[07:26] <frinklh> [00:22] (ludwig_) how.is th
[07:26] <aegoes> would be possible to create a server for the chat?
[07:26] <frinklh> [00:22] (ludwig_) how are the cards formatted
[07:27] <ludwig_> fat 32
[07:27] <frinklh> strange should be read and write, any back info why maybe
[07:28] <ludwig_> its a mystery to me
[07:28] <ludwig_> its a usb style plug in reader
[07:29] <frinklh> [00:28] (ludwig_) are they plugged to work or in fstab
[07:29] <auronandace> ludwig_: is there a tiny switch on the sdcards for write protection?
[07:29] <frinklh> To.be mounted
[07:29] <ludwig_> im not quite sure what that means, its plugged in, the card is set to unlock
[07:30] <ludwig_> online it was suggested to try blowing it out.. didn't work.  what is fstab?
[07:31] <frinklh> Heh power outage here at home so having to use the smart phone.
[07:32] <auronandace> !fstab | ludwig_
[07:33] <fidel> hi - is 12.04-3 released? and if so - are there known issues or similar?
[07:34] <DJones> fidel: Yes its released, I've not had any issues with my 12.04 server
[07:36] <fidel> DJones: ok thanks. am i right that it should just come via apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[07:37] <DJones> fidel: Pretty much, I did apt-get dist-upgrade rather than just apt-get upgrade to make sure all updates were included
[07:48] <hatecraft> So I know I can press my super key to open Dash Home and type in "google.com" to start my browser at google.com.  But can I do a google search from the Dash Home bar?
[07:50] <hatecraft> I guess I can just type "google.com/search?q=foo".  That's not so bad.
[07:51] <ikonia> hatecraft: that's interesting to know that works
[07:52] <DJones> Don't know about google searchs but I seem to remember reading that there was an unsupported duckduckgo unity lens that would search via DDG
[07:55] <hatecraft> I might check that out.  Thanks.
[07:55] <DJones> Just trying to find it, seems as though it may have been removed for 13.04
[07:57] <maxvi> hi everyone! how can I set firefox to open magnet links in transmission?
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> maxvi, http://askubuntu.com/questions/122930/how-to-make-firefox-open-magnet-links-in-transmission
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> maxvi, There must be a forum or something of people using this or a irc channel.
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> oops wromng channel
[08:06] <Fender> Regarding my old problem, has anyone an idea why HTTPS would not work on ubuntu (across browsers) since yesterday?
[08:07] <reisio> Fender: what happens?
[08:08] <Fender> using both chromium and firefox, I cannot access HTTPS sites
[08:08] <Fender> ...from my two ubuntu PCs
[08:08] <Fender> from my old XP laptop it works
[08:08] <Fender> also in firefox safe-mopde
[08:09] <moonk> er
[08:09] <Fender> the brwosers repond "wating fore URL-goes-here" and nothing happens
[08:09] <guest-fP2wi8> Hi, guys. Look, my system is wacko.
[08:10] <guest-fP2wi8> A few minutes ago everything froze and I restarted my pc. But now unity is no longer showing up. Just a blank screen after I log... wtf?
[08:10] <guest-fP2wi8> I've tried choosing gnome-shell during the login screen but the error persists.
[08:10] <guest-fP2wi8> I don't know what to do. :(
[08:11] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, what release?
[08:11] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, 13.04
[08:11] <andybrine> Does anyone know howto write a video to a playable dvd for dvd players on ubuntu?
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, you might try a reset. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[08:12] <travisc> Is there someone here that wouldn't mind answering a few questions about Ubuntu installation, regarding using the lvm and full disk encryption?
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, How does the shell look
[08:12] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, it doesn't. :/
[08:13] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, same thing. nothing shows up
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, You might check the memory at the grub menu, maybe a hardware failure, or a overheat.
[08:13] <nothinking> everybody
[08:13] <guest-fP2wi8> (to be precise, the mouse icon appears, and the gdm screen persists on the background, but just the image)
[08:14] <HypnotiX> Hello, does anyone know why i lose internet connection in the virtualbox when i switch between different browsers ?
[08:14] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, I'm logged in with the guest account
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, You can run the reset from a tty from the login gui hit ctrl-alt f1
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, not sure it will run correctly from a guest.
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, you might try #vbox never heard of that happening, if you have it set up normal.
[08:17] <nothinking> i'm  from china! Are you interested in chinese theater?
[08:17] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, but if not even shell is working... ? :?
[08:17] <DJones> !ot | nothinking
[08:17] <guest-fP2wi8> :/
[08:18] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee:  well it didnt change the default adapter settings
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, Can you see the reset link?
[08:18] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, sure, why?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, Have you tried running it?
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> its strange that the shell is not working though.
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> gnome-shell*
[08:20] <guest-fP2wi8> definitely
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, Have you rebooted?
[08:20] <guest-fP2wi8> many times
[08:21] <guest-fP2wi8> which is the best way to see what might have gone wrong?
[08:21] <PapaSierra> raring is telling me that php5-fpm is already the latest version (i.e. installed) but when i do php5-fpm restart is says unrecognised service
[08:21] <guest-fP2wi8> /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[08:21] <ikonia> PapaSierra that is not a service thats why
[08:21] <ikonia> PapaSierra: it's an apache module
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, This is a knock out the variables situation basically, could be hardware, software...etc.
[08:22] <ziadingo> i am istall apache php but does'nt work htaccess
[08:22] <PapaSierra> ikonia: php5-fpm has nothing to do with apache
[08:22] <ikonia> PapaSierra it's a module loaded by apache
[08:22] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, I suppose it's just a configuration that got messed up
[08:22] <starnix> Hello people!
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, possibly the log may have some info.
[08:23] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, I was working with fonts, I've tried moving .fonts to .fonts.bak already
[08:23] <reisio> 'lo
[08:23] <PapaSierra> ikonia: i've only ever run servers with nginx and php-fpm. there is no apache whatsoever in the picture
[08:23] <travisc> Is there someone here that wouldn't mind answering a few questions about Ubuntu installation, regarding using the lvm and full disk encryption?  I have two hard drives but I want them both to be encrypted as one logical volume, but i think this goes beyond what the auto installer is capable of.  I don't need to be spoon fed, just want to know if it is possible and like a general idea of were to look in the man to learn and figure it out.
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> guest-fP2wi8, Ah, the plot thickens.
[08:23] <ikonia> PapaSierra: are you currently running it on nginx now ?
[08:23] <starnix> Why I can't see gedit, preferences in my edit tab? Can somebody help?
[08:23] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, xD
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> starnix, In gedit edit
[08:24] <PapaSierra> ikonia: they are two completely separate things. but yes, nginx is connecting to the php5-fpm service
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> starnix, Hmm not there?
[08:24] <ikonia> PapaSierra ok, so you're actually trying to run it standalone rather than through the web server, correct ?
[08:24] <starnix> wilee-nilee, yep its not there!
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> starnix, You in your regular account?
[08:25] <PapaSierra> ikonia: well yeah, i think so. i.e. it can start and stop and the webserver can do so independently
[08:25] <ikonia> PapaSierra: , so yes you're trying to run it externally rather than as part of the web server
[08:25] <imdea> Hi, I have an app that would like to start up at boot time, but I don't know if it's the same procedure (and script type than in Debian for example) or if it's different since Ubuntu uses upstart instead of sysv-init
[08:26] <ikonia> PapaSierra: ok, so in that case, you need to know if there is an init script provided for it in the package, or if you need to wrap it in a startup script your self
[08:26] <starnix> wha does it mean by regular account, wilee-nilee ? I have only one user account on this laptop.
[08:26] <PapaSierra> ikonia: here's the full story. i was on 12.04 and it installed php 5.3.10 which segfaults every few hours. so i want to install > 5.3.10. i installed 5.4 and it refused to start (using dotdeb ppa)
[08:27] <ikonia> PapaSierra: how did you install php 5.4 ?
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> starnix, Thats the one, just guessing maybe a guest account with limitations, never seen this.
[08:27] <PapaSierra> so now i changed the server to raring hoping it has newer php packages
[08:27] <ikonia> PapaSierra: 5.4 is not in 12.04
[08:27] <ikonia> ahh you used a PPA
[08:27] <ikonia> sorry, missed that in my initial read
[08:27] <starnix> wilee-nilee, okay, its gnome 3.8 it that help!!
[08:27] <starnix> *if
[08:27] <ikonia> PapaSierra: so what is your current OS version ?
[08:27] <ikonia> just to clarify
[08:27] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, found no crash report in Xorg.log
[08:27] <PapaSierra> ikonia: exactly. that's why i used the dotdeb ppa. anyway, that's all history now because threw away that server and now i have a raring server
[08:27] <PapaSierra> 13.04
[08:27] <guest-fP2wi8> wilee-nilee, and apport.log is empty
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> starnix, That may be the problem , this from a ppa, what release are you running?
[08:28] <ikonia> PapaSierra: ok, so now you need to look if the package you've installed provided an init/upstart script - or if you have to wrap it your self.
[08:28] <starnix> wilee-nilee, 13.04
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> starnix, YOu might install leafpad and see if it works
[08:29] <PapaSierra> ikonia: funny thing is it always using to provide a init script on 12.04, but it seems to have lost that functionality. and i'm not experienced enough to know how to provide one
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> starnix, 3.8 is from a ppa though.
[08:29] <nowayride> Er PapaSierra did you apt-get install php5-fpm? Because service php5-fpm restart works on 12.04 server
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> its in 13.10
[08:30] <PapaSierra> nowayride: apt-get install --yes php5-fpm php5-mysql php5-curl php5-cli php5-mcrypt php5-gd php-apc
[08:30] <nowayride> Should be a script in /etc/init.d/php5-fpm
[08:30] <ikonia> PapaSierra: lets check something stupid, ls -la /etc/init.d/php5-fpm
[08:30] <PapaSierra> but we're on 13.04 not 12
[08:30] <ikonia> I don't expect that to be there though
[08:30] <starnix> wilee-nilee,  yeah its from ppa, what is leafpad?
[08:30] <PapaSierra> ikonia: no, it's not there
[08:30] <imdea> anyone? :S
[08:30] <ikonia> PapaSierra: ok, that's actually not a bad thing
[08:30] <PapaSierra> nor is nginx which i also need as a server
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> starnix, a even better text app
[08:30] <PapaSierra> service*
[08:30] <ikonia> imdea: saying anyone is pointless
[08:30] <ikonia> PapaSierra: no, it's probably upstart jobs now
[08:31] <nowayride> PapaSierra: ls /etc/init.d/php5-fpm doesn't show anything?
[08:31] <theadmin> What's the Ubuntu update policy for Chromium? It's stuck on 28.x for now, is it intended or is an upgrade just being delayed?
[08:31] <imdea> ikonia: what?
[08:31] <PapaSierra> nowayride: correct, the instal didn't create it, nor nginx
[08:31] <ikonia> imdea: saying anyone is pointless
[08:31] <ikonia> nowayride: it shouldn't contain an init script any more
[08:31] <imdea> ikonia: I don't know what do you mean.
[08:31] <ikonia> as in old system V init
[08:31] <PapaSierra> ikonia: ok, i literally know nothing about upstart. except it's an event based service manager (i think)
[08:31] <starnix> wilee-nilee, is it customizable? like color schemes fonts hilightmode etc..?
[08:32] <PapaSierra> so how would i get started?
[08:32] <ikonia> imdea: saying "anyone" to the chanel, is pointless, as it means nothing to anyone
[08:32] <ikonia> PapaSierra: so we need to first check if an upstart job is provided, hopefully it will be
[08:32] <PapaSierra> how would i do that?
[08:32] <imdea> ikonia: wtf? and how am I supposed to ask then?
[08:32] <theadmin> imdea: You just ask the question and wait for a reply.
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> starnix, I don't remember you can install it and remove it, you wanted a preference I thought checking if leafpad has its might be prudent.
[08:32] <ikonia> imdea: you ask a question, then wait for a response.
[08:32] <imdea> theadmin: that was what I did.
[08:33] <ikonia> PapaSierra: initctl list
[08:33] <ikonia> imdea: yes, and 5 minutes later saying "anyone" means nothing to people.
[08:33] <imdea> ikonia, whatever..
[08:34] <theadmin> imdea: Basically if you don't get an answer it means nobody who's online knows (or wants to help), you can check out http://askubuntu.com in the meantime
[08:35] <ziadingo> hi, then i try restart apache2 servise i get this:
[08:35] <ziadingo> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440
[08:35] <ziadingo> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[08:35] <ziadingo> sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
[08:35] <ikonia> runing_froger: have you edited the sudoers file ?
[08:36] <[[thufir]]> I can't get a JAR to launch properly.  Rather, it's like the window never shows up.  it's this JAR (or jnlp):   http://www.jamochamud.org/     can someone let me know if it works for them?
[08:36] <PapaSierra> ikonia: http://www.hastebin.com/raw/moqigimefa
[08:36] <reisio> ziadingo: you can try sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers
[08:36] <ziadingo> no
[08:36] <mpajor_op5> ziadingo: try pkexec chmod 0400 /etc/sudoers
[08:36] <ikonia> ziadingo: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[08:36] <mpajor_op5> err, sorry, 0440*
[08:36] <ikonia> I suspect this is yet another VPS provider who lock people out with sloppy work arounds
[08:37] <ikonia> PapaSierra: that's dissapointing, no upstart service there either,
[08:37] <PapaSierra> ikonia: it's flipping strange, not even my user directory was created.
[08:37] <PapaSierra> let me show you a script...
[08:37] <ikonia> PapaSierra that's no unexpected.
[08:37] <ikonia> not
[08:38] <theadmin> [[thufir]]: Works here.
[08:38] <theadmin> [[thufir]]: Using OpenJDK 7.
[08:38] <PapaSierra> ikonia: http://www.hastebin.com/mujucilasi.ruby
[08:38] <mpajor_op5> ziadingo: any success?
[08:39] <reisio> mpajor_op5: how does authentication work with pkexec on Ubuntu?
[08:39] <ikonia> PapaSierra: why am I looking at this ?
[08:39] <ikonia> PapaSierra: as in what is this got to do with what we are discussing ?
[08:39] <mpajor_op5> reisio: I am not quite familiar with the backgrounds of pkexec, unfortunately.
[08:40] <ikonia> ziadingo: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[08:40] <PapaSierra> ikonia: because it's a script that i wrote that creates the linux users, updates packages, installs stuff, etc. basically provisions a server. now that appears to run just fine and comes back saying everything was great. but the server is empty
[08:40] <Karamazov> Kara
[08:40] <reisio> mpajor_op5: got an ubuntu box handy you can check on? I haven't
[08:40] <nukleuz> hi! anyone else having problems sending email to emailadresses with .at-tld?
[08:40] <PapaSierra> ikonia: i'm a freaking idiot. wait one sec...
[08:40] <theadmin> reisio: PolicyKit.
[08:41] <reisio> theadmin: ?
[08:41] <theadmin> reisio: That's what PK stands for
[08:41] <theadmin> reisio: in pkexec
[08:41] <reisio> theadmin: I didn't ask that :)
[08:41] <nukleuz> I have tried to send an email to two different persons/adresses, but it always results in an STMP-error?
[08:41] <PapaSierra> ikonia: i was running the deployment on the wrong server *major blush*
[08:41] <ziadingo> can sambody help?
[08:41] <nowayride> PapaSierra: so is the script even running right? You say user homes aren't being created and there's no php5-fpm upstart, is anything on that working?
[08:41] <ikonia> PapaSierra: PapaSierra no need for blushes, happens all the time
[08:42] <ikonia> ziadingo: if you give the info I've asked for twice, we can try
[08:42] <nowayride> Ah
[08:42] <theadmin> reisio: You asked "how does authenication work with pkexec on Ubuntu", it uses PolicyKit.  I haven't tried it myself to be honest.
[08:43] <nukleuz> One of the errors I get is: Diagnostic-Code: smtp; ***-***.net (xxxxxxxx) Nemesis ESMTP Service not available 554-No SMTP service 554 invalid DNS PTR resource record
[08:43] <reisio> theadmin: sorry I meant, like, does it ask for the user's pass the same way sudo does, etc.
[08:43] <nowayride> ziadingo: did you run the commands people put? A couple of people did help you
[08:43] <theadmin> reisio: Oh, that. Well, yes.
[08:43] <ikonia> nukleuz your mail server does not have a valid reverse dns record,
[08:43] <ikonia> nukleuz: let me guess, you're running this on a home internet connection ?
[08:44] <nukleuz> ikonia: nope, I dont.
[08:44] <ikonia> nukleuz: ok, so then you should be able to setup a reverse dns record for this mail server quite easy then
[08:44] <ziadingo> nowayride, no
[08:44] <mpajor_op5> ziadingo: incase you missed the earlier messages >> chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers should fix it for you.
[08:44] <reisio> theadmin: interesting :)
[08:45] <ikonia> mpajor_op5: how is that going to work if he can't sudo
[08:45] <ikonia> ziadingo: please show me the output of the command "uname -a"
[08:45] <[[thufir]]> theadmin: hmm, ok. thaks
[08:45] <reisio> ikonia: someone suggested pkexec
[08:45] <ikonia> reisio: ok, so then the command should be correct, rather than chmod on it's own
[08:45] <ziadingo> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/sudoers': Operation not permitted
[08:45] <ziadingo> but dont chmod
[08:45] <reisio> ikonia: correct commands? You're no fun anymore, heh
[08:45] <[[thufir]]> theadmin: you get a window?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/337806/
[08:45] <ikonia> ziadingo: please show me the output of the command "uname -a"
[08:45] <theadmin> [[thufir]]: Yeah, as I said 'tis working
[08:46] <[[thufir]]> thx
[08:46] <ziadingo> ikonia: Linux Acer-Aspire-5749Z 3.8.0-29-generic #42~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 14 16:19:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:46] <ikonia> ziadingo well, that's surprised me quite a lot, I was expecting a vps.
[08:47] <ikonia> ziadingo: so "someone" has changed the permissons on your sudoers file,
[08:47] <ziadingo> but why does'nt work? 0777 its bad?
[08:48] <ikonia> ziadingo: the sudors file needs specific permissions
[08:48] <reisio> ziadingo: 777 means a lot more people can read/write it than should be able to :)
[08:48] <theadmin> ziadingo: 777 on sudoers? You *must* be kidding.
[08:48] <ziadingo> ne
[08:48] <ziadingo> nope
[08:48] <reisio> it's not an airplane or holy, after all :p
[08:48] <theadmin> ziadingo: That'll give everyone access to the file, effectively meaning everyone becomes an administrator.
[08:48] <ziadingo> it true
[08:50] <ziadingo> i dont care, i want restart apache, but does'nt work
[08:51] <ikonia> ziadingo it seems pretty important to find out how your sudoers file got set to the wrong permissions
[08:52] <ziadingo> I thing that i'am chmod, because i am testing chmod command it was inadvertently
[08:59] <Eagleman> WHy do i get this error each time i start my computer? /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pygments/plugin.py:39: UserWarning: Module cherrypy was already imported from /opt/media/headphones/cherrypy/__init__.pyc, but /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages is being added to sys.path
[08:59] <Eagleman>   import pkg_resources
[08:59] <theadmin> Eagleman: Because you have installed some messy third-party package that messed with your Python environment
[08:59] <ikonia> Eagleman you've installed software to manage your headphones that is a mess
[09:00] <Eagleman> ikonia, headphones as in headset or?
[09:00] <ikonia> Eagleman: as in whatever cherrypy manages
[09:01] <theadmin> Eagleman: We wouldn't know. The software is out of repos and not supported by Ubuntu (and, since it installs to /opt, it's also likely closed-source)
[09:01] <Eagleman> it is open source, but it is third party, a program to download music, i guess i have to reinstall everything some day, but its so much work
[09:02] <ikonia> Eagleman who said anything about re-installing everything ?
[09:02] <theadmin> Eagleman: Just remove that software, it would likely be sufficient.
[09:02] <ikonia> Eagleman: just remove/fix that bad bit of software
[09:02] <Eagleman> yeh but i still use the program
[09:02] <ikonia> Eagleman ok, so accept the error then, or fix it
[09:04] <opalepatrick> Is is possible to copy mail to another address?
[09:05] <opalepatrick> incoming mail from PLesk
[09:05] <opalepatrick> via PLesk
[09:05] <opalepatrick> or any way really
[09:05] <linuxearth> can i save a word file as 97-2003 doc file in ubuntu?
[09:05] <opalepatrick> sorry wrong channel
[09:06] <reisio> linuxearth: pretty sure, from libreoffice or abiword
[09:06] <DJones> linuxearth: Should be able to do that with Libreoffice
[09:06] <linuxearth> oh
[09:06] <John83> Hello, several months ago I upgraded my kernel.  I knew what version it was so I could type it in at the boot menu by hitting e for edit. I thought that I made modifications to the menu.lst file to point to the right kernel but it looks like it didn't happen.  Is there a way for me to look at the hard drive contents for the correct kernel at the boot menu or do I need to boot to a live cd and
[09:06] <John83> look at the hard drive contents?
[09:06] <theadmin> linuxearth: Sure, just File -> Save As from Libreoffice which comes with Ubuntu
[09:06] <linuxearth> oh
[09:06] <linuxearth> though .doc is windows format
[09:06] <linuxearth> i hope it would still work in ubuntu
[09:06] <theadmin> linuxearth: Eh. LibreOffice supports the weirdest formats :P
[09:06] <reisio> John83: tab is your friend
[09:06] <linuxearth> and already present .doc files can also be edited in ubuntu?
[09:06] <theadmin> linuxearth: You can open and edit Word documents (both .doc and .docx) just fine
[09:07] <linuxearth> okay thank
[09:07] <linuxearth> thans
[09:07] <freeRunner> has anyone been able to run Word on Ubuntu? through Vine possibly?
[09:07] <theadmin> freeRunner: Yes, Word 2007 works fine for example
[09:08] <theadmin> freeRunner: Except copying from other apps messes the text up badly
[09:08] <reisio> freeRunner: yeah, but there's no point
[09:08] <theadmin> freeRunner: But that was on an older Wine version. Probably fixed now
[09:09] <theadmin> freeRunner: But yes, as reisio is saying, it's rather pointless. LibreOffice works nicely enough.
[09:09] <freeRunner> I see. All the text editing I do (tables and the like) get screwed up in Libre, hopefully they open up properly in Word
[09:10] <reisio> best to not rely on a Microsoft format if you want cross platform reliability
[09:10] <theadmin> True enough.
[09:11] <caf4926> installing 12.04 on a hybrid machine and it's running on the intel now, I want to make sure it doesn't try and install the nvidia driver later
[09:11] <reisio> I won't recommend an Adobe format, but ... even those would be more reliable
[09:12] <reisio> caf4926: you can just blacklist the module and banish it from your mind
[09:12] <theadmin> caf4926: The open nvidia driver *does* get installed by default but it usually remains inactive
[09:12] <theadmin> caf4926: The proprietary one you'd have to install yourself
[09:13] <caf4926> theadmin: really
[09:13] <caf4926> install just completed
[09:14] <caf4926> let me see what it wants to install once I get the wireless connected
[09:16] <caf4926> theadmin: this machine is not mine, it's a customers
[09:17] <theadmin> caf4926: Ah. Well, still. Hope you're using the OEM mode then, though.
[09:17] <BananaBob> Hey, anyone here that knows his way around winbind in 12.04?
[09:17] <BananaBob> or her :)
[09:17] <caf4926> theadmin: explain please
[09:18] <theadmin> caf4926: The Ubuntu installer has an "OEM" mode, which can be used if you plan to give the machine to someone else. Basically, it creates a temporary user, you configure the system, then you click "Prepare for shipping" and it removes that user and lets the customer create a new one on the installed system already
[09:18] <caf4926> theadmin: it's OK I'm with the owner he put his user and pass in during install
[09:19] <theadmin> caf4926: Ah, okay then :D
[09:19] <caf4926> theadmin: so you reckon the nvidia driver doesn't need nuking?
[09:20] <theadmin>  caf4926 well, take a look at which one it's using, go to System Settings -> Details
[09:21] <caf4926> theadmin: driver unknown - Eperience standard
[09:21] <theadmin> caf4926: ...huh. That's a strange thing. What is the output of: lsmod | grep '^video\s'
[09:25] <caf4926> theadmin: video  19652  2  i915, nouveau
[09:25] <theadmin> caf4926: Okay, this basically means both drivers are active, the first one is in use though -- the Intel driver
[09:26] <caf4926> theadmin: so it should be OK
[09:26] <caf4926> theadmin: seems to be working OK
[09:27] <theadmin> caf4926: Yes, may I ask why you don't want the NVidia driver active? They tend to give better performance...
[09:27] <caf4926> theadmin: I'm worried with the switchable graphics
[09:27] <caf4926> theadmin: is there a process that should work
[09:27] <theadmin> caf4926: Ah, that... Well, that depends, is this an Optimus card?
[09:28] <caf4926> theadmin: yes
[09:28] <theadmin> caf4926: If it is, you need Bumblebee (which isn't officially supported by Ubuntu, so may be best to avoid)
[09:28] <caf4926> theadmin: I thought so
[09:28] <theadmin> caf4926: Works fine here though :D
[09:30] <caf4926> theadmin: the customer doesn't really need it and I don't want him having issues. It had been running 10.04 and it looked horrid
[09:30] <theadmin> caf4926: Ah, okay... Uh, 10.04 is rather old, you may want to use 12.04, the latest LTS.
[09:30] <caf4926> theadmin: yes 12.04 3 is just installed
[09:31] <theadmin> caf4926: Ah, good :)
[09:31] <caf4926> theadmin: thank for the advices
[09:32] <hexacode> hey u guys i know this would take forever, but wats the shortest command i can do that will traveres every file in my file system and regex search it?  i know i can pipe into grep, should it be some sort of stream command?
[09:33] <reisio> hexacode: find / -exec egrep foo {} \;
[09:33] <reisio> hexacode: or egrep foo / :)
[09:33] <reisio> hexacode: what're you looking for?
[09:33] <reisio> hexacode: or egrep -r foo / :) even
[09:35] <hexacode> well that was easy lol thanks
[09:35] <reisio> hexacode: what're you looking for? :p
[09:36] <hexacode> lol reisio i was writing a php file a while back, and it had a regex pattern that scanned an nginx log file i seem to have lost a while back on my filesystem...sinsce the php program still had the regex in it, im going to grep that
[09:36] <hexacode> to find my log file
[09:37] <hexacode> my bckup log file
[09:37] <reisio> :)
[09:38] <theadmin> Is there a program that'd return how long the user has been "inactive", i.e. no mouse/keyboard activity?
[09:38] <hexacode> now i just hope php regex is compatible with grep regex...i know i had a hard time converting regexes from vim because it had different formats or something.
[09:38] <theadmin> hexacode: PHP uses PCRE. Use grep -P
[09:38] <reisio> theadmin: w?
[09:38] <theadmin> reisio: ...?
[09:38] <reisio> theadmin: 'w'?
[09:39] <theadmin> reisio: Oooh.
[09:40] <spobat> hi
[09:40] <spobat> what it the path to mounted devices?
[09:41] <reisio> spobat: tends to be /media/random-nonsense
[09:41] <theadmin> spobat: Uh. By default, Ubuntu mounts to /media (since 12.10, /media/$USER)
[09:41] <reisio> 'mount' will tell you
[09:41] <spobat> alright!
[09:43] <theadmin> spobat: This does not apply to weird devices like certain Android phones or cameras which are accessed over MTP/PTP, I don't know if it mounts those at all
[09:44] <spobat> good to know
[09:45] <deanrock0> hi, is there any way to restart unity without closing opened programs/windows?
[09:45] <theadmin> deanrock0: unity &disown
[09:45] <caf4926> anyone know textpad for windows, and either use it in wine or know a equiv alt for Ubuntu
[09:46] <deanrock0> theadmin: thanks
[09:47] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I changed the icon theme on my ubuntu (classic). I have an cpu freq indicator whose icon is only getting displayed when I select Ubuntu-Mono-Dark icon set from appearance. I think if I find the location of Ubuntu-Mono icons and copy  the icon of my indicator to my icons location indicator will pick up the icon. Can anyone please tell me where are Ubuntu-Mono-Icons?
[09:47] <reisio> caf4926: try geany
[09:48] <caf4926> reisio: will do
[09:48] <caf4926> thx
[09:51] <flaviuscorhei> Hello. Anyone can help with 3g modem qualcomm? Thx.
[09:52] <mydevilroot> Hello all :)
[09:52] <reisio> 'lo
[09:52] <timbermaniac> Hey guys. My network manager (connection info) shows the correct DNS server entries, yet whenever I run dig or even try to resolve in Firefox, it's not using these servers. Looks to only be using root servers. Any clue?
[09:52] <Ashael> hello. anyone has any idea why can't I drop to the root shell prompt (through grub - advanced options - recovery mode) even though I give the correct root password?
[09:53] <reisio> Ashael: what happens instead?
[09:53] <Ashael> it says incorrect password
[09:53] <reisio> your root has a password?
[09:53] <theadmin> Ashael: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password. You mustn't set one, instead, use sudo.
[09:53] <yellabs-r2> hello there all
[09:53] <yellabs-r2> gksu
[09:53] <reisio> I don't know about mustn't, but it hasn't one by default
[09:54] <reisio> yellabs-r2: hello
[09:54] <reisio> su
[09:54] <Ashael> hmm wait, what is the password it asks of me when I use sudo?
[09:54] <reisio> Ashael: your ordinary user's
[09:54] <theadmin> Ashael: Your user password
[09:54] <Ashael> ok
[09:54] <Ashael> so i need to just type 'Enter'?
[09:54] <yellabs-r2> what can i use these day's to build an locale version of ubuntu ( nl - dutch )
[09:55] <theadmin> reisio: Well, having a root password isn't exactly "insecure" by definition, but it's a flawed access management architecture. You'd give out your root password to everyone who wants to be able to run admin tasks?
[09:55] <yellabs-r2> or is there such a version out there already ?
[09:55] <reisio> yellabs-r2: /msg ubottu locale
[09:55] <Ashael> yellabs-r2: ubuntu supports localization
[09:55] <timbermaniac> theadmin: yet if someone gains access to the primary user's password, they don't need root.
[09:55] <Ashael> (although that's not cusomisable enough, for my taste)
[09:56] <reisio> theadmin: I'm sure this discussion is off topic, it's an old one neither of us will add anything new to :p
[09:56] <reisio> s/it's/moreover it's/
[09:56] <yellabs-r2> hmm ubottu does not know the right answer... lol
[09:56] <Ashael> reisio / theadmin : so just try 'Enter'?
[09:57] <reisio> Ashael: you could try it
[09:57] <Ashael> wait, is it supposed to ask for a root password?
[09:57] <yellabs-r2> is there an nice tool to rebuild iso with just the dutch - nl locale ?
[09:57] <yellabs-r2> gui
[09:57] <reisio> Ashael: it's probably supposed to ask for some password
[09:57] <Ashael> hm ok
[09:57] <Ashael> will give it a try
[09:57] <theadmin> yellabs-r2: UCK may work. *may*. It fails randomly.
[09:57] <Ashael> brb
[09:58] <theadmin> reisio: By default, recovery mode's root shell does not have a password prompt
[09:58] <theadmin> reisio: Only does if you set a root password
[09:58] <c2tarun> nevermind guys, I found it. /usr/share/icons
[09:58] <reisio> theadmin: :/
[09:59] <theadmin> reisio: ...or if you have disk encryption, but then it phrases it differently
[09:59] <yellabs-r2> ok i will check that out... thanks
[10:00] <reisio> theadmin: so you're just given root, or?
[10:01] <theadmin> reisio: Pretty much yes
[10:01] <theadmin> reisio: To address potential security concerns: it's not insecure, anyone with physical access can get a root shell from, say, a LiveCD very esaily
[10:01] <theadmin> easily*
[10:01] <reisio> not as easily as pressing the down arrow :p
[10:02] <reisio> or shift then the down arrow
[10:02] <Guest50981> Is there a real bugfree application to record voice from mic and desktop screen ?
[10:02] <reisio> Guest50981: hrmmmm
[10:02] <reisio> ffmpeg is certainly the most reliable for screen recording that I've used
[10:03] <reisio> you can probably grab the mic input with it, too
[10:03] <Guest50981> reisio,  ffmpeg is a codec i think
[10:03] <reisio> Guest50981: no :)
[10:03] <Guest50981> reisio,  hm. is it GUI app
[10:03] <reisio> nope
[10:03] <reisio> wouldn't be surprised if there are GUI frontends for using it as a screencaster, though
[10:03] <Guest50981> reisio,  is there a GUI for it?
[10:04] <reisio> nope
[10:04] <theadmin> Guest50981: You can use Kazam. It's not based on FFMpeg, but it does the job really, really well
[10:04] <theadmin> Guest50981: Can record from mic and from speakers, or both
[10:04] <theadmin> Guest50981: Well and desktop
[10:04] <Guest50981> reisio,  i used recorditnow for ffmpeg, it doesnt keeps the ratio sequience of the audio and video.  theadmin
[10:05] <reisio> theadmin: isn't it based on it?
[10:05] <theadmin> reisio: Nah, uses GStreamer somehow but not ffmpeg
[10:06] <reisio> that's probably just for the audio?
[10:06] <theadmin> reisio: Yeah maybe :D It doesn't depend on ffmpeg though so
[10:06] <Guest50981> theadmin,  reisio  something tells me that you would not recommend the recorditnow with ffmpeg contrary to mos of others recommendations
[10:06] <theadmin> Guest50981: Try kazam, really. Is good.
[10:07] <Guest50981> theadmin, ok
[10:07] <reisio> http://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/How%20to%20grab%20the%20desktop%20%28screen%29%20with%20FFmpeg audio too
[10:07] <reisio> theadmin: hrmmm, does it depend on libav? :p
[10:08] <reisio> I don't know, you can make a GUI to an ffmpeg command in a few minutes
[10:08] <theadmin> reisio: Nope :P
[10:08] <reisio> the GUIs for screencasters tend to just be start buttons anyways
[10:08] <reisio> not even stop ones, as displaying those would clutter the screen
[10:10] <theadmin> reisio: Close enough: http://i.imgur.com/LwPThvf.png
[10:10] <dsol> How can I change the combination of the Secure Attention Key?
[10:10] <Guest87832> hi, where can i find information about my dvd recorder device?
[10:10] <reisio> Guest87832: what sort of information did you want?
[10:10] <Guest87832> i want the model number reisio
[10:11] <Guest50981> theadmin,  strange, kazam just didnt ran
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest50981: sudo lshw -C drive; sudo lshw -C disk
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest50981: I forget which it is, so use both
[10:11] <theadmin> Guest50981: Huh. That's strange.
[10:12] <Guest87832> thx ActionParsnip
[10:12] <Guest87832> thx, cya
[10:12] <Guest50981> ActionParsnip,  http://pastebin.ca/2438733
[10:12] <reisio> wonder if I used cdrecord -scanbus in the past...
[10:12] <Guest50981> ActionParsnip,  but why did you told that to me
[10:13] <reisio> cdrdao scanbus, mmm
[10:13] <theadmin> Guest50981: Because you have a hamsterous nickname and he confused you with Guest87832.
[10:13] <Guest50981> theadmin,  http://pastebin.ca/2438735
[10:13] <Guest50981> theadmin,  ok :)
[10:14] <Ashael> reisio / theadmin: no avail. I get the same "Login incorrect" reply :/
[10:14] <reisio> Ashael: use your install media
[10:14] <theadmin> Guest50981: Huh, that's an odd one
[10:14] <Ashael> reisio: elaborate please?
[10:15] <reisio> Ashael: if you boot up your ubuntu install image, you can do 'try' instead of 'install' and fix things
[10:15] <Ashael> hm ok
[10:15] <Guest50981> can anyone help me with this error http://pastebin.ca/2438735 ?
[10:15] <Ashael> does that stupid problem means there IS a root password?
[10:15] <Ashael> mean
[10:15] <reisio> Guest50981: you install from the package manager?
[10:16] <reisio> Ashael: maybe
[10:16] <Ashael> bah.
[10:16] <Guest50981> reisio,  yes
[10:16] <reisio> Ashael: you can re/set one or scramble it from the install media
[10:16] <Ashael> i have no idea what it may be, and why it's not what I think it is.
[10:16] <Ashael> anyway, thanks.
[10:16] <Ashael> will try that later
[10:16] <reisio> :)
[10:18] <varun> I am not able to access internet through firefox , when i'm running firefox from GUI. But when running firefox from terminal with sudo internet is working absolutely fine
[10:19] <reisio> varun: over wireless?
[10:19] <varun> ethernet
[10:19] <reisio> varun: look in its menu, make sure it's not in that daft offline mode
[10:19] <varun> but internet is working on same firefox with sudo
[10:20] <varun> Even other browsers are not working
[10:20] <varun> i've tried midori chromium
[10:20] <varun> none of them is working
[10:20] <reisio> Guest50981: done any big system updates recently
[10:21] <reisio> oh okay
[10:21] <reisio> is network manager running?
[10:21] <varun> No updates . I m using ubutu 12.04 lts
[10:21] <Guest50981> reisio, no
[10:21] <varun> yes
[10:21] <varun> its already running
[10:22] <reisio> varun: might need to edit its prefs as root
[10:22] <varun> how ?? I m stuck for last 2 days
[10:23] <reisio> run its gui configurator as root
[10:23] <reisio> dpkg -L network-manager | grep -i bin
[10:23] <Guest50981> reisio,  any other guess?
[10:24] <reisio> dpkg -L network-manager-gnome | grep -i bin
[10:24] <reisio> something like that should tell you what it is
[10:24] <reisio> Guest50981: could be a real bug :)
[10:24] <varun> its showing
[10:25] <varun> /usr/bin
[10:25] <varun> /usr/bin/nm-applet
[10:25] <reisio> actually it should probably just ask you for the keyring password if you click on the applet as your ordinary user
[10:25] <varun> /usr/bin/nm-connection-editor
[10:25] <reisio> look for that checkbox for allowing any user to use a connection
[10:26] <reisio> stuff like that
[10:27] <ubuntivity> Hi, is it true that Richard Stallman said that Ubuntu has spyware?!
[10:27] <reisio> think so
[10:27] <reisio> he probably said it "is" spyware
[10:28] <ubuntivity> And how much is it related to reality?
[10:28] <visualise> chromium  =  spyware
[10:28] <reisio> ubuntivity: Ubuntu comes with software that helps commercial organizations sell you things
[10:28] <rbnielsen> reisio, I seem to remember experiencing some time ago, that installing something from apt, and when running it gave me a similar error. I looked up what python package it was missing, installed it, and then it worked. I actually think it was gnuplot (oddly enough).
[10:28] <reisio> visualise: that's chrome
[10:28] <varun> hey i m not able to get anything
[10:28] <reisio> varun: ?
[10:28] <varun> After tping those commands
[10:29] <varun> i ot just 3 msgs
[10:29] <ubuntivity> I always hated those ads in Ubuntu software center
[10:29] <reisio> rbnielsen: right, which would be a bug :)
[10:29] <reisio> ubuntivity: you and Stallman might get along, then :)
[10:29] <ubuntivity> I wouldn't take it as far as calling it "spyware"!
[10:29] <varun> /usr/bin , /usr/bin/nm-applet, /usr/bin/nm-connection-editor
[10:29] <rbnielsen> I'd rather say an error in package dependencies, than bug. ;)
[10:30] <reisio> ubuntivity: yeah I'd just call it super annoying awfulware
[10:30] <reisio> but it is a privacy concern
[10:30] <varun> reisio ??
[10:30] <reisio> 'spyware' is not really an inappropriate label
[10:30] <Mancent> I used rsync to copy /home/ to my USB a few days ago, now when I want to make a re-backup, how can I make rsync skip files that are already on the USB?
[10:30] <parapan> hi fellows > can someone guide me in installting evolution 3.8.5 for example on ubuntu 12.04 ? the default client 3.2.3 has some bugs with Microsoft Exchange 2010 and it's not working properly . .
[10:30] <reisio> varun: hi
[10:30] <Mancent>  I used rsync to copy /home/ to my USB a few days ago, now when I want to make a re-backup, how can I make rsync skip files that are already on the USB?
[10:31] <reisio> Mancent: same rsync command you used before
[10:31] <varun> what can be the issue here
[10:31] <ubuntivity> I think both sides should reconsider: Canonical should purify Ubuntu, and Stallman should take a less agressive and more constructive approach..
[10:31] <Mancent> reisio: I used rsync /home/mancent /media/zrk
[10:31] <varun> reisio : is this an issue related to permissions
[10:31] <reisio> ubuntivity: doubt that'll happen, Canonical is a for profit company itself
[10:31] <reisio> varun: could be, seems a mere configuration issue
[10:31] <Mancent> reisio: if I do that again, it won't skip files, it'll keep writing the files again in a different folder.
[10:31] <reisio> varun: something you could _try_ is create a new user, log in as that user, and see if networking works
[10:32] <reisio> varun: if it does, that would imply a user-specific corruption or misconfiguration
[10:32] <reisio> as opposed to merely only-root working
[10:32] <ubuntivity> reisio: I'm really interested to hear your personal opinion towards ubuntu...
[10:32] <varun> reisio: i created a new user but same issue there too
[10:32] <reisio> Mancent: rsync -a is what most people use
[10:32] <Mancent> ?
[10:32] <gordonjcp> !ot | ubuntivity
[10:32] <slikts> reisio: or git
[10:33] <Mancent> reisio: I want rsync to skip files that are already on the USB, and copy files over the USB that are not already there.
[10:33] <slikts> is there something nicer to use than postfix or sendmail for sending and receiving emails?
[10:33] <Mancent> any parameter for that, reisio?
[10:33] <slikts> Mancent: that's what it does with -a
[10:33]  * ubuntivity would be interesting in finding reisio on #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:34] <reisio> Mancent: I'm pretty sure you can run the same command
[10:34] <Mancent> alright, it's copying the files again.
[10:34] <Mancent> it's not skipping.
[10:34] <reisio> Mancent: what makes you think it's no skipping?
[10:34] <varun> resisio : can u help ??
[10:34] <reisio> varun: haven't I been?
[10:34] <Mancent> reisio: it's copying over files, that are already on the USB.
[10:34] <Mancent> as I stated above.
[10:35] <varun> because i tried all the things that u just told
[10:35] <reisio> Mancent: what makes you think it is?
[10:35] <reisio> varun: that's all I've got ATM
[10:35] <varun> no one is working
[10:35] <Mancent> reisio: what does -a mean?
[10:35] <slikts> Mancent: archive
[10:35] <slikts> Mancent: read rsync manpage
[10:35] <Mancent> slikts: does it skip files that are already on the USB?
[10:35] <reisio> Mancent: pretty sure it does that by default
[10:35] <Mancent> reisio: it doesn't.
[10:35] <slikts> Mancent: how about you look at the manpage
[10:35] <reisio> Mancent: pretty sure it does
[10:36] <reisio> although you need to use the exact same command
[10:36] <reisio> or the paths might not match
[10:36] <reisio> 'history' might know your last use of it
[10:36] <varun> resiso : can u tell me from where i can select or change pemissions of a normal user
[10:37] <reisio> varun: there is no magic single 'permission to use networking' checkbox that I know of
[10:37] <reisio> not outside of what I've already suggested
[10:37] <varun> thnx fro your help
[10:38] <reisio> np
[10:39] <imdea> I was running a script created to be included into /etc/init directory, I did 'start bewell-app' and it started, then I did 'stop bewell-app' and it didn't do anything, so I killed the process. Now when I try to execute 'start bewell-app' it says: start: Job is already running: bewell-app (but that's not true)
[10:39] <imdea> a 'status bewell-app' gives me: bewell-app start/killed, process 17861.. any ideas?
[10:39] <jpds> imdea: You need to do some research on Upstart.
[10:39] <jpds> imdea: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[10:40] <imdea> jpds, I'm making it, but I haven't found the answer.
[10:40] <jpds> imdea: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[10:43] <imdea> jpds, so I have to read the whole book? great
[10:44] <jpds> imdea: Well, it'll give you a better uderstanding of what's goig on.
[10:45] <jpds> imdea: Right now, you're kind of saying: "I want to fly a jet plane, but I don't know how to turn the engines on, can someone do that for me and I'll take over in the air?"
[10:45] <imdea> jpds yeah sure.. great help
[10:46] <jpds> imdea: De nada, vago.
[10:46] <caf4926> is there any way to stop the request for restricted drivers in 12.04
[10:47] <imdea> jpds: excuse me?
[10:51] <Leighroy> hey
[10:51] <universal> how to disable crash reporter from about:config in firefox ? which entry ?
[10:51] <flavcor> Hello. Anyone familiar with qualcomm 3g modem? Need help to get it working pleass.  Fuck you, that's why
[10:53] <Guest50981> reisio,  ya but i need audio and video both from line in and line out. mic / speakers with video.
[10:54] <[Gentoo]> universal: http://imagebin.org/268887
[10:54] <[Gentoo]> not sure what one of them it would be
[10:54] <reisio> Guest50981: can probably manage that with ffmpeg
[10:54] <derEremit> hi, were there some big changes from yesterday to today in saucy
[10:54] <Guest50981> reisio,  you mean it will do audio?
[10:54] <DJones> derEremit: #ubuntu+1 for saucy queries
[10:54] <ikonia> derEremit: check the #ubuntu+1 channel for Saucy discussion
[10:55] <derEremit> ok, sorry
[10:55] <derEremit> will do
[10:55] <reisio> Guest50981: yes, I said as much ages ago
[10:55] <flavcor> Yes +1
[10:55] <Guest50981> reisio,  right. thanks
[10:55] <Guest50981> reisio,  still looking for guis
[10:55] <reisio> what do you need a gui for? :)
[10:56] <Guest50981> reisio,  you know. nice easy options
[10:56] <reisio> universal: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Breakpad#Can_I_disable_Crash_Reporter.3F
[10:58] <flavcor> Why mobile broadband doesn't see my midem usb?
[10:58] <flavcor> Modem
[10:59] <Guest50981> reisio,  http://pastebin.ca/2438766
[11:00] <airtonix> le-sigh, my google-chrome is opening three about:blank tabs every time i start it up
[11:01] <reisio> Guest50981: what's 100,200 for?
[11:02] <Guest50981> reisio,  i just pasted you link second command. http://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/How%20to%20grab%20the%20desktop%20%28screen%29%20with%20FFmpeg
[11:02] <reisio> ah it says
[11:02] <reisio> x & y
[11:03] <reisio> try just -i :0.0
[11:03] <reisio> I wouldn't use .flv, either
[11:03] <Guest50981> then?
[11:05] <reisio> I'd use whatever format you want to use in the end
[11:05] <aethelrick> hi all, I'm looking to replace my work notebook with a new one... any one using any truly awesome new notebooks on Ubuntu? My existing machine is 1900x1200 17' screen with lots of RAM and disk... but is feeling sluggish on 12.04 LTS due to it's age
[11:06] <Guest50981> reisio,  hm. works. and what does it matter for .flv  what would be the actual output formate? and what .ext should i name it
[11:06] <reisio> Guest50981: depends on what you mean to do with it
[11:10] <caf4926>  is there any way to stop the request for restricted drivers in 12.04
[11:10] <bitbyter> hi, i use dirvish to backup data - but i get  error "(23) -- partial transfer" since dirvish is based on rsync i think it's an rsync problem but i can't make upt what to do - any advice?
[11:11] <bitbyter> oh! if i do it with sudo, it works...
[11:12] <parapan> hi fellows > can someone guide me in installting evolution 3.8.5 for example on ubuntu 12.04 ? the default client 3.2.3 has some bugs with Microsoft Exchange 2010 and it's not working properly . .
[11:13] <reisio> trying to support exchange is rough
[11:13] <reisio> let's see, evolution-exchange is replaced by evolution-mapi is replaced by evolution-ews?
[11:13] <reisio> I think that's right
[11:13] <reisio> irc.gnome.org would remember
[11:14] <universal> reisio: there is no entry in about:config when seearched with report or crash reagrding disabling crash reporter....and when I am creating a new entry moz_crashreporter_disabled with value 1 then nothing is happening
[11:15]  * reisio shrugs
[11:15] <reisio> could ask #firefox, or irc.mozilla.org
[11:15] <universal> hmm
[11:15] <universal> how to change screensaver ? how to set lock screen or logout in ubuntu 13.04 ?
[11:17] <universal> there is no option showing logout in ubuntu13.04
[11:17] <universal> reisio: ^^^
[11:17] <usr13> universal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/292995/configure-screensaver-in-13-04
[11:18] <universal> what about locking and logout ? reisio
[11:18] <Guest50981> reisio,  despite what ever ext i give it. what would be the actual output formate?     e.g if i give it   .somebogusext
[11:19] <usr13> universal: Install gnome-screensaver for locking as well.
[11:19] <reisio> Guest50981: it makes educated guesses, if you make up an extension I assume it will either fail or use some basic raw format
[11:19] <usr13> universal: Screen locking is a function of screensaver
[11:20] <universal> usr13: locking without screensaver ?
[11:20] <universal> and any inbuilt way of doing it than installing gnome-screensaver ?
[11:20] <usr13> universal: Screensavers and locking is just not that useful, many if not most of us don't use them.
[11:21] <usr13> universal: sudo apt-get install gnome-screensaver
[11:21] <reisio> most screensavers do "just locking" as well
[11:21] <universal> it depends on time and situation if one wants to just lock screen otherwise none uses it :)
[11:21] <usr13> universal: As reisio points out, you do not have to enable screensaver in order to use screen lock
[11:21] <universal> reisio: when i am clicking start screensaver then its showing a blackscreen and not locking.....ubunntu 13.04
[11:22] <reisio> yeah... I think that's a GNOME 3 failing
[11:22] <universal> hmm
[11:22] <reisio> try a different one, like xscreensaver
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> universal  the purpose of a screensaver is to start when ypi havent clicked for a long time
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> you*
[11:22] <usr13> reisio: Has universal moved away from unity?
[11:23] <reisio> no idea
[11:23] <universal> usr13: no
[11:23] <Guest50981> reisio,  its a nightmare. http://pastebin.ca/2438781
[11:23] <usr13> Ok, just a bit late in the conversation so....  Ok universal.
[11:23] <gordonjcp> what's the point of screensavers now anyway?
[11:23] <gordonjcp> we all use LCDs, right?
[11:23] <gordonjcp> we no longer use green phosphor Hercules monitors
[11:24] <reisio> gordonjcp: locking? :p
[11:24] <gordonjcp> reisio: fair point
[11:24] <reisio> a lot of "people" do still use savers
[11:24] <reisio> I hate them
[11:24] <raygus> Can any one assist me. I have a new fresh install of 13.04 and after installing a number of packages which appeared to install ok, I noted the recently installed app icons were not listed in the launch bar on the left hand side on screen.
[11:24] <reisio> but not as much as LEDs on monitors that blink
[11:24] <usr13> gordonjcp: It's just eye-candy.  Evne the late model CRTs did not do any screen burns.
[11:24] <reisio> those are even harder to nullify
[11:24] <gordonjcp> reisio: I use a screen saver with power management
[11:24] <usr13> *Even*  not Evne
[11:24] <gordonjcp> reisio: there's this wee button on the front of my monitor...
[11:25] <reisio> gordonjcp: button?
[11:25] <gordonjcp> reisio: yup
[11:26] <reisio> oh
[11:26] <universal> i do not use screensavers....if its possible I disable them......but locking screen is something i want and not screensavers......its just that i clicked start screensaver and it did not start it rather just a blank screen and than back to normal screen thats why asking for screensaver also.....otherwise my priority question is locking screen!
[11:26] <burg> hello. i am trying to install ubuntu server 12.04. i tried to make bootable usb with both 12.04.2 and 12.04.3 from three different computers (two ubuntu and one windows) using three different methods on ubuntu, and using two usb sticks, in case one of them was damaged, and it always fails when i try to check disk contents. and if i try to install it without checking, it tells me that 'your installation cdrom couldn't be mounted'
[11:26] <gordonjcp> reisio: when I press it, it makes the screen go totally black and the power consumption drops just about 100%
[11:26] <usr13> Unlike screensaver, power management applications are installed by default.
[11:26] <reisio> there seem to be a lot of monitors that, while in sleep mode but not off, blink their LEDs as if they're schizophrenic :)
[11:26] <reisio> yeah, but at that point you've touched some coworker's filthy monitor, haven't you :p
[11:27] <universal> blinking tells that they are sleeping and not off.....meaning power is still running inside them
[11:27] <raygus> Can any one assist me. I have a new fresh install of 13.04 and after installing a number of packages which appeared to install ok, I noted the recently installed app icons were not listed in the launch bar on the left hand side on screen.
[11:27] <reisio> universal: right, it's just hugely annoying :)
[11:27] <reisio> plus I can usually tell when a monitor is off by it not emitting any light :p
[11:28] <gordonjcp> reisio: I leave other people's monitors alone.  At work I just throw the breaker for my workbench, at home I hit the button on the front, and in the van I just throw the breaker for the inverters
[11:28] <universal> lol
[11:28] <reisio> I leave them alone, too, 'cause I don't want to wash my hands again
[11:28] <usr13> burg: It's trying to use wrong device.  Watch closely what device it is pointing to.  (Often times when you install from USB, it will look for CDROM for files and sometimes point to wrong device when writing grub to MBR.)
[11:29] <usr13> burg: sudo fdisk -l
[11:30] <burg> usr13, and where should i type that? because i have no console while i am trying to install
[11:30] <usr13> raygus: Click the top icon and start typing
[11:30] <usr13> burg: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[11:30] <burg> usr13, also, i have no cdrom at all on that computer
[11:31] <legend321> Hi there. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Now i want to install flash from Ubuntu Software Center, but "Use this Source" button is grayed out. Why so?
[11:32] <usr13> legend321: Select a source first.
[11:32] <burg> usr13, ctrl+alt+f6 makes the screen black, but i can not type anything
[11:32] <usr13> !flash | legend321
[11:32] <AndroUser> Hello. Why 3g modem is not seen by mobile broadband network manager? Thanks.
[11:33] <IamTrying> I keep getting this "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" the box is online.
[11:35] <IamTrying> I was logged in and then all of a certain when reconnecting, ssh -v user@server keeps giving me "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[11:36] <Xaseron> how can i list all packages from a repository server? (it's an internal repo server)
[11:36] <IamTrying> Tried echo "sshd:ALL" >> /etc/hosts.allow  does not solved
[11:36] <eden_> me
[11:36] <usr13> imcsk8: ls -ld /var/empty
[11:36] <jrib> IamTrying: what did you do between the time of your last successful connect and when you became unable to connect?
[11:36] <usr13> IamTrying: ls -ld /var/empty
[11:37] <usr13> IamTrying: What does that say?
[11:37] <eden_> i could get my nvidia card working,my laptop has a hybrid gpu intel/nvidia optirun works
[11:37] <eden_> but my DE works on intel or nvidia gpu?
[11:38] <IamTrying> jrib, the system is in remotely location , i was connected via SSH last night and in the mean time it was running apache web service, now trying to login via SSH getting that. In the mean time there was no big changes except it was running Apache server services.
[11:38] <usr13> IamTrying: Who are files in  /var/run  owned by?
[11:39] <jrib> IamTrying: so how did you make a change to /etc/hosts.allow?
[11:39] <IamTrying> usr13, its remotely located do u want me to do that in my ssh client??
[11:39] <IamTrying> jrib, /etc/hosts.allow is empty in remote server
[11:40] <jrib> IamTrying: huh?  You said you added "sshd:ALL" to it just now
[11:40] <IamTrying> usr13, ssh client  [ec2-user@ip-10-0-0-108 ~]$ ls -ld /var/empty drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 4096 May  9 14:52 /var/empty
[11:40] <IamTrying> jrib, in my SSh client i did
[11:40] <jrib> IamTrying: ok.
[11:40] <IamTrying> jrib, SSH server is running Ubuntu 12.04, and i am in ssh Client Red hat enterprise 6.4
[11:41] <jrib> IamTrying: so you don't have access to the server now?
[11:41] <uronu> :)
[11:41] <IamTrying> jrib, not at all, i can ping and ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host while doing SSH
[11:41] <eden_> i could get my nvidia card working,my laptop has a hybrid gpu intel/nvidia optirun works i am currently on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit.My DE works on nvidia or intel gpu or i should program it?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> IamTrying: can you telnet to the socket?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> !bumblebee | eden_
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> eden_: look into bumblebee
[11:42] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6032221/ -  ActionParsnip
[11:42] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, yes SSH port is allowed to me still
[11:43] <eden_> ActionParsnip, i looked but i can't understand it
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> IamTrying: does your user have read access to both key files
[11:43] <eden_> ActionParsnip, anything that relates to what i am asking
[11:43] <hdtdi> hi. i have ubuntu 11.10 and i dont know why but it doesnt recognize any of my usb flash sticks. its like they arent connected at all.. any idea why that is happening ?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> eden_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> eden_: its step by step...how can you not unbderstand it?
[11:44] <eden_> ActionParsnip, should i install bbswitch?
[11:44] <usr13> IamTrying: http://edoceo.com/notabene/ssh-exchange-identification
[11:44] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, yes
[11:44] <eden_> ActionParsnip, optirun firefox works finem
[11:45] <burg> usr13, anyway, how can i make it point to the usb device instead?
[11:45] <usr13> !11.10 | hdtdi
[11:45] <usr13> !eol | hdtdi
[11:45] <IamTrying> usr13, grep MaxStartups /etc/ssh/sshd_config  in my ssh client (RHEL 6.4 i am on) to apply or in ssh server (Ubuntu 12.04, where i cant even login remotely) ?
[11:45] <jrib> IamTrying: are you connecting via password or keys?  Pastebin an attempt with "ssh -vvv"
[11:46] <IamTrying> jrib, using password
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> eden_: so where is the issue?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> hdtdi  first upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[11:46] <hdtdi> thanks
[11:46] <IamTrying> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6032235/
[11:46] <eden_> ActionParsnip, i want the DE move more fluently
[11:46] <eden_> ActionParsnip, gpu can help with that right?
[11:47] <eden_> ActionParsnip, i want to add effects and stuff that's why
[11:47] <jrib> IamTrying: so you don't get prompted for a password?
[11:48] <jrib> IamTrying: how are you using 10.* ip?
[11:49] <IamTrying> jrib, not at all, i also tried what usr13 was showing http://paste.ubuntu.com/6032245/
[11:49] <IamTrying> jrib, VPN (RHEL) to LAN ( Another Ubuntu 12.04) from that Box to that LAN
[11:49] <IamTrying> jrib, i am remotely in VPN (RHEL) location.
[11:49] <IamTrying> jrib, from VPN (RHEL) i have direct tunnel to that network
[11:50] <IamTrying> Also have SSL vpn tunnel directly to that network all giving same error.
[11:50] <bariho> are there any Open/LibreOffice Base alternatives available on ubuntu?
[11:51] <linu> whats wrong with libreoffice ?