[10:36] <abattoir> mr_interweb: try apt-get, it should be more informative
[10:36] <Malician> it keeps failing every time
[10:36] <abattoir> Malician: the same disk?
[10:36] <Malician> i'm trying it on different hard drives, with all different information / settings
[10:36] <mr_interweb> I'll give that a whirl. thanks
[10:36] <Malician> doesn't seem to matter
[10:36] <Malician> i ran the checksum thing and it passed
[10:36] <abattoir> Malician: looking at the logs might be useful
[10:37] <Pie-rate> how would I check the CD without using the cd tester provided on the cd?
[10:37] <londo4> abattoir: It did not ask
[10:37] <abattoir> londo4: which version? dapper or edgy?
[10:37] <binary2k2> londo4: in Konqueror, go to media:/
[10:38] <londo4> abattoir: dapper 06.6 lts
[10:38] <abattoir> londo4: do what binary2k2 said
[10:39] <Malician> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/73715 i posted a bug report here
[10:40] <Pie-rate> well, looks like its almost time to break out the windows disc...
[10:41] <Malician> Maybe kubuntu is doing a bad job of formatting the drive before it installs?
[10:41] <Malician> That's the only thing I can think of..
[10:41] <londo4> abattoir: I see only  my hda
[10:41] <londo4> binary2k2: I see only myn hda
[10:42] <abattoir> londo4: try 'lsusb' in a terminal, see if your device is listed
[10:42] <binary2k2> londo4: what do you see if you run "dmesg|tail" just after you plug it in
[10:42] <Malician> argh.. it just crashed again
[10:43] <Malician> how do I inspect the logs?
[10:43] <Malician> what do I look for?
[10:43] <Pie-rate> is there a <500mb net install for kubuntu 6.10?
[10:43] <londo4> I will  try
[10:44] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation has lots of ways to install
[10:46] <Malician> I don't know what to do.  I don't know what else I can change
[10:46] <Malician> the CD passes checksum, I've tried installing on two different hard drives with different user info every time and it always fails at the creating user stage
[10:47] <Pie-rate> i've seen that, binary2k2. however, i have yet to find something small enough to fit on a 512mb usb stick
[10:48] <mr_interweb> I was able to find the offending package with the command line apt-get, but I don't know how to resolve the issue.  My package sources say that they have the file, but it is still failing
[10:48] <mr_interweb> any ideas
[10:48] <Pie-rate> oh great i can't even find a windows disc...
[10:50] <binary2k2> mr_interweb: if you found the package, install it with apt-get, then try installing the package that failed before
[10:50] <Malician> mweh. does anybody have any idea what I should do or try?
[10:50] <Malician> I'd really like to get ubuntu running
[10:50] <londo4> abattoir: It is not listed
[10:51] <mr_interweb> Package libjack0.100.0-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:51] <mr_interweb> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:51] <londo4> binary2k2: it is not listed
[10:51] <mr_interweb> is only available from another source
[10:51] <mr_interweb> E: Package libjack0.100.0-0 has no installation candidate
[10:52] <mr_interweb> maybe I do not have my sources configured right
[10:52] <seven11> mount ntfs-3g command line ?
[10:52] <binary2k2> mr_interweb: you need universe for that package
[10:53] <binary2k2> londo4: did you try looking at the "dmesg|less" command ?
[10:54] <mr_interweb> binary2k2: thank you.  That did the trick
[10:54] <binary2k2> :D
[10:54] <londo4> binary2k2: yes I did
[10:55] <londo4> binary2k2: its also not listed
[10:55] <binary2k2> londo4: what's the output?
[10:55] <binary2k2> !pastebin | londo4
[10:55] <ubotu> londo4: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:55] <Pie-rate> where can i find a kubuntu installer that will fit on a 512mb usb drive? i can't find one on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[10:56] <Jucato> !netinstall
[10:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:56] <Jucato> bah
[10:56] <mr_interweb> good night everyone
[10:57] <binary2k2> good night mr_interweb
[11:00] <londo4> binary2k2: there is the output:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34726/
[11:01] <binary2k2> londo4: what do you get with "lsmod|grep usb" ?
[11:01] <Pie-rate> well i'm giving up. i can't find any CD-Rs, the one that i did manage to burn didn't work, and i can't even find my windows disc to install kubuntu that way.
[11:02] <binary2k2> sorry Pie-rate
[11:02] <Malician> I can't give up
[11:02] <Malician> but I'm not sure where to go from here
[11:02] <Malician> I can't give up 'cause I don't currently have a running operating system
[11:03] <Malician> and I kinda want one
[11:03] <Malician> heh
[11:03] <londo4> binary2k2: lsmod|grep usb nathing
[11:03] <binary2k2> Malician: have you tried the alternate cd ?
[11:04] <Malician> alternate cd?
[11:05] <Malician> kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso?
[11:06] <Malician> you think i might have better luck downloading / burning that?
[11:06] <binary2k2> Malician: yeah, that's the one, it's a text based install, and has less bugs than the liveCD one
[11:07] <binary2k2> londo4: what do you get when you do: "sudo modprobe usbcore"
[11:07] <Pie-rate> hmm actually, i have a debian 3.1 disc lying around, is there any way i could install kubuntu from debian?
[11:08] <Malician> meh. i'll download that, burn it in the morning
[11:08] <Malician> sure hope it works
[11:08] <Malician> otherwise i'm stuck going back to suse, i guess - assuming i can find a suse disk that works
[11:09] <londo4> binary2k2: also nathing
[11:09] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: you should be able to, but i don't know about that
[11:09] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: try googleing
[11:09] <binary2k2> londo4: anything different with "lsmod|grep usb" ?
[11:10] <cpk1> londo4: having trouble mounting a usb key?
[11:11] <londo4> binary2k2: yes anything different
[11:11] <Pie-rate> i suck at giving up...
[11:11] <londo4> usbcore
[11:11] <binary2k2> londo4: try: "sudo modprobe usb_storage" then remove the usb key and put back in
[11:12] <londo4> binary2k2: USBCORE 130820
[11:12] <cpk1> i noticed the the hal update seems to have fsckd automount
[11:13] <binary2k2> cpk1: usb isn't even being detected on his system
[11:13] <mooreand13213> i know you guys get this a million times a day, but how do i install nvidia drivers under kubuntu?
[11:13] <mooreand13213> total linux newb
[11:13] <binary2k2> !nvidia | mooreand13213
[11:13] <ubotu> mooreand13213: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:14] <cpk1> oh well that could be a problem couldnt it? =P
[11:14] <mooreand13213> lol
[11:14] <binary2k2> londo4: anything happen when you remove and re insert the usb?
[11:14] <milaks> Hi everyone. After I've installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu system, when in KDE my screensaver doesnt start after specified amount of time, instead screen goes black and sometimes it showx (big or small) white 'X'. Can someone please tell me how to enable my screensaver again.
[11:14] <cpk1> but after he does get it to be recognized automount might be messed up for him =)
[11:14] <londo4> nop
[11:15] <binary2k2> londo4: you may have to file a bug report and/or a support request
[11:16] <cpk1> londo4: have you tried mounting it yourself or the hell of it?
[11:16] <binary2k2> cpk1: how can it be mounted, if it's not recognised, no device to mount?
[11:17] <binary2k2> !big | londo4
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about big - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <binary2k2> !bug | londo4
[11:17] <ubotu> londo4: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:17] <binary2k2> londo4: and support requests go here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets
[11:18] <mooreand13213> !nvidia
[11:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:18] <cpk1> londo4: well i was having trouble with a usb stick today and just mounted it from a root login
[11:18] <londo4> binary2k2: I did not mount it
[11:19] <binary2k2> cpk1: if it's not recognised, no device is created, so i can't be mounted
[11:19] <milaks> Anyone?
[11:20] <binary2k2> milaks: search bug reports
[11:20] <londo4> cpk1: Ok, I will try to do that
[11:20] <londo4> cpk1: do you  have comand to do that?
[11:20] <milaks> binary2k2: Is it a but, because while I've had onlu kde (without the rest od kubuntu-desktop) on ubuntu, everything was fine?
[11:21] <binary2k2> milaks: how did you install without installing kubuntu-desktop?
[11:22] <Jucato> kde-core
[11:22] <cpk1> well it would probably be mount -t usbfs /dev/sda1 /media/somefolderyoucreated or it might be /dev/sdb1/ or i suppose if you had 2 sata drives it would be /dev/sdc1
[11:23] <londo4> ok
[11:23] <cpk1> but ever since the hal updat usbmounting has been screwy for me so might be the same for you
[11:23] <milaks> binary2k2: I dont remember exactly it was something like 'kde-core' or only 'kde', it was from ubuntu kde installation guide.
[11:24] <binary2k2> milaks: i think i saw the bug before, so look on the bug reports
[11:24] <binary2k2> milaks: i don't use screensavers, only when I lock the seddion, then it's set to be blank
[11:24] <binary2k2> *session
[11:24] <milaks> If you mean on address on title of this channel, I've already did and havent foung anything about screensaver.
[11:25] <binary2k2> i mean the bugs site on launchpad
[11:25] <binary2k2> !bugs | milaks
[11:25] <ubotu> milaks: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:25] <binary2k2> the 1st link
[11:26] <milaks> !bugs]
[11:26] <milaks> !bugs
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugs]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:26] <seven11> how do i mount with ntfs-3g
[11:27] <binary2k2> !ntfs | seven11
[11:27] <ubotu> seven11: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:27] <milaks> Really strange. Ah almost to forgot, I've also swithced off power saving before it started to bahave like it is now.
[11:28] <binary2k2> !ntfs-3g | seven11
[11:28] <ubotu> seven11: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[11:28] <Jucato> milaks:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork/+bug/70991 and http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137070 and
[11:28] <binary2k2> I thaught i saw it before
[11:29] <seven11> i did that before with sudo mount ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 media/hda1 or so... it did work but i forgot
[11:31] <milaks> Jucato: thanks.  I've manually compiled and installed SVN version of Kdevelop 3.4, because version from official repositry had some bug, but now adept-notifier notifies me that previous package is newer than the one I have and I cannot get rid of it. How can I make adept-notifier to not notify me of upgrades for certain packages?
[11:38] <cpk1> hold the package
[11:38] <binary2k2> and corress it :P
[11:38] <cpk1> and snuggles with it
[11:38] <binary2k2> get marred and have lots of little libs
[11:38] <cpk1> and you will never have problems with it again
[11:39] <milaks> ooooh... :)
[11:39] <Alndr_>
[11:39] <Kabal> can someone explain the following error?
[11:39] <Kabal> http://www.euronet.nl/users/kabal/00/Kubuntu%206.10%20Error.JPG
[11:39] <Alndr_>      squid   (25 110  )?
[11:40] <binary2k2> !ru | Alndr_
[11:40] <ubotu> Alndr_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:40] <milaks> Is there any way for adept-notifier (without meariage proposals) ?
[11:40] <Alndr_> translit?
[11:40] <cpk1> like i said, hold and i think there is something stronger than that too
[11:41] <cpk1> nevermindkeep is the weak one and hold is the strong one
[11:42] <cpk1> there is also forbidversion
[11:42] <cpk1> but what i think you want milaks is hold
[11:43] <milaks> cpk1: I don't understand you, unless youre jocking. When I open adept-notifier list, in package menu there isnt "*hol*" option?
[11:43] <binary2k2> or uninstall the package and install with make install
[11:43] <cpk1> milaks: you need to do it via command line
[11:43] <cpk1> aptitude hold packagename
[11:43] <binary2k2> cpk1: will that work on adept?
[11:44] <milaks> Let me try it... but before that, how can I reeanble upgrades for that package?
[11:44] <binary2k2> milaks: aptitude unhold package
[11:44] <milaks> Ok, thanks, I'll try that...
[11:46] <milaks> Hm, the adept-notifier icon is still on panel.
[11:46] <binary2k2> milaks: do you still have the source compiled?
[11:46] <milaks> yes I do
[11:47] <binary2k2> milaks: why not uninstall the package with adept, then just "sudo make install" in the source and adept won't know it's installed or updateable
[11:48] <milaks> eh, I've installed it using checkinstall... what you propose is somewhat "dirty" way  :)
[11:49] <cpk1> after holding it do aptitude update and see if it goes away
[11:49] <binary2k2> try that then :P
[11:49] <Jucato> milaks: did you remove the old KDevelop before you installed the checkinstalled version?
[11:50] <cpk1> if that doesnt make it go away then there is always trying to pin it i guess
[11:50] <milaks> cpk1: I did that and even restarter the panel but the icon is still there.
[11:51] <Jucato> milaks: try to sudo apt-get update
[11:51] <milaks> Jucato: Yes, I've removed the old kdevelop package and installed with checkinstall, the new one.
[11:51] <cpk1> well i think you might be able to pin it but i never really looked into pinning packages that much
[11:51] <milaks> Jucato: No. It's still there.
[11:52] <Jucato> :(
[11:56] <milaks> Nothing, I'll dirty old verified `make install` way.
[11:57] <cpk1> look into "pinning"
[11:58] <Jucato> noooooh :)
[11:59] <milaks> Uh, I've tried to do "upgrade" anyway, to se just waht happens, but it broke, icon disappeard, and now in adept_manager I see that kdevelop package is marked as "BROKEN (installed) BROKEN (no change)" with red color.
[12:01] <milaks> Now, there is only "request install" option, not "request uninstall".
[12:01] <milaks> How can I focefully remove it?
[12:02] <Jucato> try sudo apt-get -f install?
[12:02] <milaks> here...
[12:03] <milaks> Yes it worked.
[12:03] <bxnp> hi i was wondering is it possible to boot from an usb stick, while the bios is not supporting that
[12:03] <milaks> It returned the things like they were.
[12:04] <bxnp> is there a way maybe via a floppy
[12:04] <milaks> Ands now I'll brutaly uninstall it and install the new version with make install ;)
[12:04] <milaks> Thanks for your help and effort guys.
[12:04] <binary2k2> bxnp: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[12:05] <bxnp> thanks binary2k2 let me check
[12:28] <benjaminkip> please anyone could help me how to use gtalk in kubuntu
[12:30] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: kopete supports google talk, it uses the jabber protocal
[12:30] <benjaminkip> yeah! thanks
[12:30] <benjaminkip> but I wonder if I have kopete
[12:30] <benjaminkip> yeah I have it
[12:30] <binary2k2> its installed by default, under internet
[12:30] <benjaminkip> yeah that true
[12:31] <drarem> here i sit broken-hearted, i came to dump but only g-parted
[12:31] <benjaminkip> but only icq, msn, yahoo, and other
[12:31] <benjaminkip> dear binary2k2 which one shall i click for gtalk on kopete
[12:31] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: gtalk uses jabber
[12:32] <drarem> i'm trying to include a php file into html, when i pull up the html file i don't see the php stuff
[12:32] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support will help
[12:32] <drarem> <?php include ('test.php'); ?>
[12:32] <drarem> it's right after the body tag
[12:34] <benjaminkip> oic... let me try
[12:35] <drarem> nm, think i need a htaccess file
[12:36] <benjaminkip> thank you binary2k2
[12:36] <benjaminkip> have  a good day
[12:36] <binary2k2> your welcome benjaminkip
[12:38] <Bubba_Gump> Is there a way to download youtube videos, and then convert them to AVI's?
[12:38] <Bubba_Gump> There's some brilliant Aldous Huxley videos that I'd like to add to my collection
[12:40] <binary2k2> Bubba_Gump: try searching in firefox extentions: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/
[12:44] <benjaminkip> oh, Binary2k2 r u still there
[12:44] <binary2k2> yeah
[12:44] <benjaminkip> oh thanks
[12:44] <benjaminkip> can we also use skype?
[12:46] <binary2k2> you can install the package from a plf archive
[12:46] <binary2k2> or if ubuntu bot knows?
[12:46] <binary2k2> !skype
[12:46] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:46] <binary2k2> ahh
[12:46] <benjaminkip> plf archive what is that
[12:46] <binary2k2> see that 1st link
[12:47] <binary2k2> !plf | benjaminkip
[12:47] <ubotu> benjaminkip: PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[12:49] <benjaminkip> thanks but I am not sure how to install..
[12:49] <benjaminkip> i hope you don mind teaching me please binary2k2
[12:50] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: if you look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-693284b80e50a26ec5779f4c5fa08519e0796b1d
[12:50] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: it shows you how to install
[12:51] <benjaminkip> I am actually just beginning to use this Kubuntu and I am very interested in this so
[12:51] <benjaminkip> trying to learn much
[12:51] <rag> please anyone use kppp? it say me "modem is busy" always on a laptop
[12:51] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: add the source to your sources.list and install it with Adept/Synaptic or from the command line
[12:52] <rag> good morning! with wvdial is ok, modem works :)
[12:56] <Cuddles_Laptop> morning all.
[12:56] <Cuddles_Laptop> i'm still having one little problem.
[12:57] <binary2k2> Cuddles_Laptop: and what's the problam?
[12:58] <Cuddles_Laptop> running edgy on a dell latitude laptop, with a gigabit wireless card [r818x driver] , and wireless will -not- auto-start.
[12:58] <binary2k2> ahh, i know nothing about wireless, sorry
[12:58] <Cuddles_Laptop> i have to run kwireless, and then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart to get an ip assignment.
[12:58] <larson9999> in edgy should i be booting to -common instead of -686?
[12:59] <binary2k2> you mean generic, and I don't know
[12:59] <crimsun> that's up to you.
[12:59] <larson9999> errr, yeah.
[12:59] <crimsun> I use -generic currently
[12:59] <binary2k2> make sure you have linux-restricted-modules and try asking in #ubuntu
[12:59] <larson9999> crimsun: i don't see a -686.
[12:59] <crimsun> if you don't notice anything odd, you can stick with -386
[01:00] <crimsun> larson9999: because -generic subsumes it.
[01:00] <crimsun> -386 is 486-tuned; -generic is 586-tuned
[01:00] <crimsun> -generic also has SMP support
[01:00] <lupul> hello there
[01:00] <binary2k2> generic is good most
[01:00] <larson9999> crimsun: oh wondered because -generic won't boot for some reason.  just hangs
[01:00] <binary2k2> works well on my intel4
[01:00] <lupul> can anyone tell me pls how to install a new splash screen
[01:01] <lupul> on edgy
[01:01] <binary2k2> lupul: the KDE splash screen, or the boot-up splah?
[01:02] <lupul> kde
[01:02] <lupul> wait. one of them i resolverd in the kcontrol menu
[01:03] <binary2k2> lupul:  K-Menu -> Syetem Settings -> Splash -> Add
[01:03] <lupul> ok
[01:03] <lupul> and the other one? the boot one
[01:03] <binary2k2> !usplah | lupul
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usplah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <lupul> k
[01:04] <binary2k2> lupul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto see this
[01:04] <lupul> well...  i'll manage someway
[01:04] <lupul> i'm new on linux so it's hard
[01:04] <binary2k2> that link will help
[01:04] <lupul> k. thanks
[01:04] <binary2k2> !usplash
[01:04] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:06] <benjaminkip> what is sudo?? Please
[01:06] <binary2k2> !sudo | benjaminkip
[01:06] <ubotu> benjaminkip: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:10] <Lothar> ok i have run dhclient to get my self an ip. i have to manualy edit /etc/resolv.conf to put in my DNS servers as they are not automaticly given out by my router. Is there some way to turn dhclient off or make it so that it dont overwrite the Dns servers
[01:14] <rag> someone use kppp ?
[01:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all !:)
[01:15] <rag> always on several computers kppp say me "modem is busy"
[01:15] <rag> always on several computers kppp say me "modem is busy" , but wvdial its work and i can browse
[01:15] <rag> please!
[01:15] <binary2k2> Lothar: you need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf; look at "man dhclient.conf"
[01:15] <ArmedGeek> rag: are you sure you have the right device selected in kppp
[01:16] <rag> ArmedGeek: yeah
[01:17] <rag> ArmedGeek: with wvdial works withou problems
[01:17] <ArmedGeek> dunno.  i don't use either.
[01:18] <rag> ArmedGeek: is necessary other commands or options in kppp?
[01:18] <deathplanter> hiya guys
[01:18] <deathplanter> im missing first-run assistant in kubuntu's kde
[01:18] <deathplanter> where can i find it?
[01:18] <rag> ArmedGeek: i do only user pwd, choose modem and pulse connect
[01:19] <ArmedGeek> rag: if you're havine modem busy problems, 1) check that no other devices are using the modem, 2) check that kppp is attempting to use the correct device
[01:19] <ArmedGeek> rag: use kppp's query modem button
[01:19] <deathplanter> could anyone tell me what app is responsible for kde's first run assistant?
[01:20] <Lothar> binary2k2: thanks man all solved now
[01:20] <rag> ArmedGeek: this button say me
[01:20] <rag> ArmedGeek: busy :(
[01:20] <binary2k2> Lothar: great :D
[01:20] <rag> ArmedGeek: i tested it all morning
[01:20] <ArmedGeek> try the other devices
[01:22] <rag> ArmedGeek: i test it on 4 computers
[01:23] <rag> ArmedGeek: kppp have a problems on modem is busy
[01:23] <ArmedGeek> dunno then.  i don't use it.
[01:23] <rag> ArmedGeek: do you know other ppp gui?
[01:24] <rag> ArmedGeek: i need it for a friend on village
[01:24] <ArmedGeek> no.  i don't use a ppp gui
[01:25] <BluesKaj> pop3 rag?
[01:25] <ArmedGeek> ppp, not pop3
[01:26] <BluesKaj> what's ppp?
[01:26] <ArmedGeek> point-to-point protocol.  dialup.
[01:26] <rag> BluesKaj: point to point
[01:26] <Jucato> I was about to say Peer to Peer :P
[01:26] <rag> protocol
[01:26] <BluesKaj> pop then ?
[01:26] <Jucato> it's not only for dial up. there's also PPPoE and PPPoA :)
[01:27] <rag> Jucato: pppoe ethernet, pppoa analogic
[01:27] <Jucato> :)
[01:27] <benjaminkip> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[01:27] <benjaminkip> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[01:28] <benjaminkip> binary2k2 ru there
[01:28] <benjaminkip> I think Imess up something
[01:29] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: try replaceing that line with "deb http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free"
[01:29] <ia1da08> \j redondela
[01:30] <benjaminkip> no i can not even open up the adept
[01:31] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: press alt-F2 , then type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:31] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: change it in there
[01:31] <rag> ArmedGeek: its a problem because "modem is busy" it appear me quickly , on pulse connect or query modem
[01:32] <ubuntu> how do I mount my hard drives from the livecd?
[01:32] <ArmedGeek> rag: i *still* dunno.
[01:32] <benjaminkip> yeah
[01:32] <ubuntu> i'm trying stuff like sudo mount /dev/hdb
[01:32] <ubuntu> but it's not working
[01:32] <ubuntu> any ideas?
[01:32] <benjaminkip> some thing came up
[01:33] <benjaminkip> sources.list-kate
[01:33] <benjaminkip> what is that
[01:33] <BluesKaj> BRB , gonna reset the router
[01:33] <guiden> I need some help with a driver I've installed. I have downloaded this driver http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html and it's in rpm
[01:33] <guiden> I've downloaded*
[01:33] <binary2k2> kate is a text editor, you can remove the line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free"
[01:33] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: ^^
[01:34] <rag> ArmedGeek: np, thanks!
[01:34] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: and replace it with "deb http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free"
[01:34] <guiden> how do I convert it to deb?
[01:34] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: then save it
[01:34] <binary2k2> !alien | guiden
[01:34] <ubotu> guiden: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:35] <guiden> damn you ubotu
[01:35] <guiden> :)
[01:35] <binary2k2> ubuntu: what error do you get?
[01:35] <benjaminkip> binary2k2 I jsut saved it already
[01:35] <milaks> Hello again. I've saved profile in Konqueror so it always shows "hidden" files (all directories and files in / direcory), but when I need to open, shose or save something in some other KDE application (like Kdevelop) I always have to right-click and select "Show hidden files". Is there any way to make them all show hidden contentn (all content in /) by default, wihtout the need to first right-click and then select it?
[01:36] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: open up adept, fetch the package list (refresh button) and search for skype
[01:36] <benjaminkip> i can not open adept
[01:36] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: what error do you get?
[01:37] <benjaminkip> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[01:37] <binary2k2> !hidden | milaks
[01:37] <benjaminkip> I am getting this error
[01:37] <ubotu> milaks: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[01:37] <ubuntu> hey, does anybody know how to mount hadr drives w/ a kubuntu live cd?
[01:37] <binary2k2> ubuntu: what error do you get?
[01:37] <Malician> my problem is that there's nothing listed in the fstab
[01:37] <Malician> I try sudo mount /dev/hda1 and it says it doesn't exist in the fstab
[01:38] <binary2k2> ubuntu: you need to put a mount point after, like sudo mount /dev/hda /media/hda
[01:38] <binary2k2> ubuntu: you need to create the mount point first
[01:39] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: open Konsole, K-menu -> System -> Konsole
[01:39] <Malician> okay, done
[01:39] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: type this in:
[01:39] <nilesh> hello
[01:39] <Malician> i'm trying to figure out what my sata drive is listed as
[01:39] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: sudo apt-get update
[01:39] <nilesh> hi
[01:39] <ArmedGeek> Malician: probably sda
[01:39] <Malician> w00t, done
[01:40] <binary2k2> Malician: try sudo fdisl -l
[01:40] <Malician> sda2, actually! at least i know my data's safe
[01:40] <Malician> now if i could only figure out how to get past the kubuntu install bug
[01:40] <Malician> i'd be just fine
[01:40] <binary2k2> Malician:  you need to put a mount point after, like sudo mount /dev/hda /media/hda , after creating the directory
[01:40] <Malician> yeah, got that working
[01:41] <Malician> i'm so happy to see all my data still alive
[01:41] <binary2k2> Malician: if the live CD installer won't work for you, try the alternate cd
[01:41] <rag> ArmedGeek: i installed knet and same error, but with other words! :) unable to create modem lock file.
[01:41] <ArmedGeek> Malician: well even if it wasn't i'm *sure* you have backups ... right ?
[01:41] <rag> ArmedGeek: google...
[01:41] <Malician> >>
[01:42] <binary2k2> !alternate | Malician
[01:42] <ubotu> Malician: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:42] <benjaminkip> binary2k2 i got back my adept manager
[01:42] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: you should find skype in there now
[01:42] <ArmedGeek> rag: er, i guess if the user doesn't have perms to create a lockfile then it might report "busy"
[01:42] <benjaminkip> now I am little scare to try another.. but I am ready to try again
[01:43] <rag> ArmedGeek: is possible yeah, i looking just now
[01:43] <ArmedGeek> rag: there is a dialup/ppp/modem group that your user should be added to
[01:43] <ArmedGeek> can't think of the name of the group
[01:43] <ArmedGeek> rag: but if you check /etc/group it should jump out at you
[01:44] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: migrating to kubuntu (or linux in general), can be a culture shock, but you'll get used to it and wounder how you got along without it :p
[01:44] <binary2k2> ArmedGeek: i think it's called "dialup"
[01:44] <Malician> bash: cd: Documents/: Permission denied
[01:44] <Malician> how do I get past this?
[01:44] <ArmedGeek> rag: check for a "dialup" group
[01:44] <ArmedGeek> binary2k2: i think that's it
[01:45] <Malician> as I can't log into root on ubuntu? when I use "sudo cd Documents"
[01:45] <Malician> it says it can't find the command
[01:45] <benjaminkip> yeah I guess so.. everything is different...
[01:45] <ArmedGeek> benjaminkip: yeah, windows got everything wrong ;)
[01:46] <binary2k2> Malician: 1st un-mount the drive, (sudo umount /dev/sda2), then remount with "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /where/you/mount/it -o uid=ubuntu"
[01:46] <binary2k2> Malician: or just "sudo su - "
[01:47] <rag> ArmedGeek: not exist dialup, modem or ppp, which is?
[01:47] <Malician> Ah, Thanks!
[01:48] <binary2k2> rag, ArmedGeek: group is dialout
[01:48] <guiden> how do I remove my old ati grapic drivers completely, I want to install a new driver from ati
[01:49] <binary2k2> guiden: how did you install it?
[01:49] <rag> binary2k2: sure?
[01:49] <guiden> I followed the guide in ubuntu w8
[01:49] <binary2k2> rag: it's the only group with "dial" in it
[01:50] <rag> binary2k2: uhm but it have my user and cupsys
[01:50] <guiden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:50] <guiden> I followed that one
[01:51] <binary2k2> guiden: which version? edgy, dapper etc?
[01:51] <guiden> edy
[01:51] <guiden> g
[01:53] <binary2k2> guiden: if you installed ir with "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" then it should auto update
[01:53] <ArmedGeek> rag: dialout ?
[01:54] <rag> ArmedGeek: i dont know i going out now, thx for all
[01:54] <ArmedGeek> k
[01:55] <guiden> But I found this one http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html, it's specifik to my amd64 and to my ati radeon  9800
[01:55] <guiden> and their guide says I should remove my old driver
[01:56] <binary2k2> guiden: then just "sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx"
[01:56] <guiden> ok
[02:06] <BluesKaj> anyone use graphics utilities to remove "redeyes" from photos, and if so, which one works best ?
[02:10] <icheyne> BluesKaj, picasa works fine
[02:11] <icheyne> BluesKaj, gimp is OK, but it is not as easy as it should be
[02:13] <BluesKaj> icheyne, yeah i need some thing simple ...gimp is too much like photoshop... more than I need and too difficult to understand
[02:13] <icheyne> well Picasa is nice - but slow on old machines
[02:14] <icheyne> I have not found a simple Linux photo editor yet
[02:14] <icheyne> :(
[02:14] <icheyne> native Linux that is
[02:14] <alexicon> krita is ok
[02:14] <BluesKaj> <---machine AMD64 , 2Ghz , 1G Ram...should be fine
[02:14] <icheyne> I thought krita was a paint program?
[02:14] <icheyne> BluesKaj, yes you'll be fine
[02:15] <icheyne> looks like I was wrong about Krita - probably worth a try
[02:16] <alexicon> its a bit different to use.. but its got all the basic features
[02:16] <alexicon> 13% mem tho.. dunno if youre saving much compared to using gimp
[02:17] <icheyne> it's usability that's the problem with the gimp
[02:18] <icheyne> my favourite image editor is photofiltre, but it's windows - I have heard it runs nicely on Wine
[02:18] <icheyne> simple, quick and easy
[02:19] <alexicon> yeah this krita is kinda like old photoshop 6 or something
[02:19] <alexicon> not all the right click options of gimp
[02:19] <alexicon> everything is in the menu bar
[03:00] <VSpike> Does anyone else find that switching users in Kubuntu Edgy is kind of unreliable?
[03:00] <XVampireX> No
[03:01] <XVampireX> It's rather nice and to the point
[03:04] <binary2k2> it's being worked on for KDE4, to make it better
[03:06] <fragrag> Is there anyway of making each desktop having it's own bar?
[03:07] <binary2k2> fragrag: what do you mean?
[03:08] <fragrag> Underneath the main screen, there is a bar with all open program.
[03:08] <BluesKaj> panel
[03:09] <fragrag> Anyway of giving each desktop it's own panel?
[03:10] <binary2k2> fragrag: you mean show only the windows open on that desktop?
[03:10] <fragrag> yes
[03:10] <binary2k2> fragrag: right click the panel, click on taskbar, and uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[03:10] <fragrag> Ahh, yes, thank you very much
[03:11] <binary2k2> no problem :D
[03:12] <fragrag> Everything is much cleaner now
[03:12] <BluesKaj> is there a way of editing all the repos sources that don't work without having to comment or delete each one seperately? ...seems like some repos ahve gone south on me
[03:13] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: you can use Adept to "disable" them
[03:13] <BluesKaj> such as this Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/Release Unable to find expected entry  multivers/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:16] <VSpike> XVampireX: you don't find that sometimes it fails and you end up with a blank screen?
[03:16] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, that's what i'm trying to avoid ..individual repos editing ...looks like i have about 20 or so that are either dupes or don't work anymore
[03:16] <VSpike> XV
[03:17] <VSpike> XVampireX: Must be something peculiar to mine... better look into it.  I find it's worth asking -- sometimes there's no point trying to make something work because it just fundamentally doesn't work very well :)
[03:18] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: I don't think there is an "easy" way to mass disable them
[03:19] <XVampireX> VSpike: You mean switching PEOPLE to Kubuntu Edgy or switching Users in Kubuntu Edgy?
[03:20] <VSpike> I mean switching between users - i.e. starting new sessions, or switching sessions
[03:20] <XVampireX> binary2k2: Yes there is, adept or some text editor and comment them lines
[03:20] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, yeah gonna manually edit them out
[03:20] <BluesKaj> ppl misunderstand so easily
[03:20] <XVampireX> VSpike: I'm running as my main user (Not root), so I don't know about that :P
[03:21] <VSpike> XVampireX: ah.. well, my wife and I both use this box, so it's useful to switch users
[03:21] <binary2k2> XVampireX: that's what he wated to avoid
[03:21] <Jucato> VSpike: K Menu -> Switch User?
[03:21] <VSpike> XVampireX: used to do it under XP all the time, and mostly it worked although if your box was gonna crash, that's when it would do it :)
[03:22] <VSpike> Ju
[03:22] <VSpike> Jucato: yep
[03:22] <Frederick> folks where does the system hides knetworkconf after it is installed?
[03:22] <pelle_> Can somebody help me a little
[03:22] <pelle_> ?
[03:22] <XVampireX> BluesKaj: Don't use the computer then, the computer doesn't know what you want it to do.
[03:22] <Frederick> pelle_: just ask
[03:22] <abattoir> Frederick: i think it goes into kcontrol
[03:22] <abattoir> Frederick: where did you get it from? kde-apps?
[03:23] <XVampireX> Don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[03:23] <pelle_> I'm dual booting Windows, but I'm sick of it, so I wanna go all Kubuntu, but I can't figure out how to make the partition to fill up the whole hard drive
[03:23] <Frederick> abattoir: I just apt-get it
[03:23] <abattoir> Frederick: 'This is a KDE control center module to configure TCP/IP settings.'
[03:24] <Frederick> abattoir: oki so?
[03:24] <abattoir> Frederick: from 'apt-cache show knetworkconf'...
[03:24] <Frederick> I need it
[03:24] <abattoir> so look in kcontrol
[03:24] <Frederick> not listed should I re-start x or something like that?
[03:24] <Frederick> reboot?
[03:24] <VSpike> pelle_: what size partitions do you have at the moment?
[03:24] <abattoir> Frederick: Alt+F2->kcontro->Internet & Network
[03:24] <abattoir> Frederick: i don't think that's necessary
[03:24] <abattoir> *kcontrol
[03:24] <pelle_> for windows I have 150gb, and for Linux Ive got 50gb
[03:25] <abattoir> Frederick: Alt+F2->kcontrol->Internet & Network
[03:25] <pelle_> but my Windows broke and im sick of it
[03:25] <Frederick> abattoir: not listed
[03:25] <binary2k2> Frederick: use K-Menu -> System Settings
[03:25] <pelle_> and I dont use it anyways
[03:25] <VSpike> pelle_: there's no particular need to change the partitions.  You could just format the windows partition as ext3 and mount it into the filesystem
[03:25] <Frederick> binary2k2: than I can find the kcontrol entry either
[03:26] <pelle_> can I do that from Linux?
[03:26] <pelle_> cause windows is broken
[03:26] <abattoir> Frederick: i think it's 'Network Configuration' or 'Network Settings'
[03:26] <Frederick> oh oki
[03:26] <Frederick> so it is there not as I wantred but it is there
[03:26] <binary2k2> Frederick: kcontrol was replaced with System Settings in kubuntu, but kcontrol is still installed, just the command
[03:26] <abattoir> Frederick: what's it called?
[03:27] <VSpike> pelle_: yeah, you can
[03:28] <VSpike> pelle_: is your windows partition mounted in linux
[03:28] <pelle_> i dont think so
[03:29] <pelle_> how can I tell?
[03:30] <pelle_> and how do I format it?
[03:30] <Frederick> abattoir: knetworkconf?
[03:32] <VSpike> pelle_: you should be able to use Krusader in root mode
[03:32] <VSpike> pelle_: go to Tools->Mountman
[03:33] <pelle_> wheres that?
[03:33] <VSpike> try "sudo krusader &" in a shell
[03:34] <pelle_> doesnt ope
[03:34] <pelle_> n
[03:35] <pelle_> oh, I didnt have it
[03:35] <pelle_> Im installing it
[03:35] <Frederick> abattoir: knetworkconf
[03:44] <pelle_> k i got it
[03:44] <pelle_> so how do I format?
[03:46] <pelle_> VSpike_:  I found MountMan
[03:47] <pelle_> VSpike, although I can't find the hard drive, just the 50 gb partition
[03:48] <abattoir> Frederick: oh, ok, but i was asking for the Entry in kcontrol ;)
[03:51] <pvandewyngaerde> is there a good network layout scheme-maker for linux ?
[03:52] <Frederick> nam?
[03:53] <binary2k2> pvandewyngaerde: kivio can make flowcharts, which is good for making network layouts
[03:54] <pvandewyngaerde> has it network symbols ?? like for routers and stuff ?
[03:55] <binary2k2> dunnow, have only heared others use it for that
[03:59] <ninHer> i need some advice with a curious problem about my graphics
[04:00] <ninHer> in my desktop, or my pics the black colour it is showed badly ...
[04:00] <ninHer> and disrupt the pic or the desktop
[04:01] <ninHer> if i send some pic trough e-mail the receiver doesn't notice this
[04:01] <ninHer> so it must be a problem with my graphics
[04:01] <ninHer> any idea ?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> sounds like a monitor setting adjustment
[04:02] <ninHer> uhm, may be
[04:14] <mefisto__> how do I migrate my current kubuntu install to a new hard drive? will it work if I format/partition the new drive and just copy the files over?
[04:16] <binary2k2> mefisto__: yeah, but you need to change /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst to reflect the change
[04:16] <BluesKaj> ya gotta use a linux equivalent to Norton Ghost
[04:16] <binary2k2> the gparted disk will do the copy
[04:17] <mefisto__> binary2k2: is that all I need to do? just those 2 files?
[04:17] <binary2k2> !gparted | BluesKaj
[04:17] <ubotu> BluesKaj: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:17] <BluesKaj> yes i use GParted all the time ...i thought he was taliking about a new box
[04:18] <binary2k2> mefisto__: yeah, they're the only file that are needed to boot
[04:18] <binary2k2> *files
[04:19] <mefisto__> so I don't need to install grub on the new drive or anything? just copy everything over?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> I used GParted to split the hdd into two 80G partitions ...dual boot with windoze
[04:19] <binary2k2> the k,ubuntu live cd has gparted too iirc
[04:20] <binary2k2> well, the kubuntu one has qtparted
[04:20] <BluesKaj> QParted ... not as useful
[04:21] <binary2k2> the kubuntu one is updated from the stock one, much better than it was
[04:21] <mefisto__> so no need to reinstall grub?
[04:22] <binary2k2> mefisto__: depends on what you're doing with the original hard disk
[04:22] <mefisto__> I want to replace the original with a new, larger one
[04:25] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, can't a mirror be made of the old drive and transferrred to the new one ?
[04:26] <mefisto__> currently my first hd is windows, kubuntu is on a separate hd, that I want to replace. Do I need to reinstall grub so the windows disk accesses the new kubuntu disk properly to boot?
[04:28] <BluesKaj> raid stripe ?
[04:28] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: sorry, call center was tryin to sell me a phone :P
[04:29] <BluesKaj> hehe, hungup i hope
[04:29] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: yeah :D
[04:30] <binary2k2> mefisto__: copy the drive, and reinstall grub, but make sure to change fstab if you're keeping the other harddrive in the same posittion
[04:30] <binary2k2> as IDE primary master
[04:31] <BluesKaj> i got a spam phone call from scholar's choice yesterday...don't even have enuff respect for potential customers to use a real person to pitch their marketing campaign
[04:31] <mefisto__> ok, thanks binary2k2
[04:33] <BluesKaj> if you have trouble with grub , there's a MBR called GAG that rescued my windows MBR after reformatting the parition over Suse
[04:34] <BluesKaj> XP and w2k , other windows can be rescue by FDSK/MBR
[04:35] <BluesKaj> XP doesn't have a dos option ... typical MS oversight
[04:36] <binary2k2> you have to do it from the XP recure disk
[04:37] <BluesKaj> yeah , my rescue disk didn't work cuz the rescue partiton on the HDD was erased
[04:37] <BluesKaj> all the rescue disk does is boot into the rescue partition
[04:37] <binary2k2> mine was on the diak too, now kubuntu is in its place :D
[04:39] <BluesKaj> I still have windows on my machine , cuz there are some things I'm not secure doing with edgy. Mostly video conversionand multimedia stuff
[04:39] <ckd> re
[04:40] <binary2k2> i keep a spair xp box, but mostly use vmware
[04:40] <binary2k2> if at all
[04:42] <guiden> I need to keep track of the temperature on my computer, is there a nice temp program for kde?
[04:44] <binary2k2> ksensors ?
[04:44] <binary2k2> guiden: or ktemperature
[04:45] <berkes> once you have clicked the "never for this site" button, when prompted to "store passwords" in konq,
[04:45] <berkes> is there a way to re-set that?
[04:45] <guiden> ok thanks
[04:45] <guiden> what's the normal temp for a computer?
[04:46] <binary2k2> guiden: depends totaly on your hardware
[04:46] <binary2k2> guiden: google is your friend here
[04:47] <kai_> when ever I try to build my amarok collection it skips thru my mp3's what can I do?
[04:48] <guiden> ok
[04:48] <Jucato> kai_: do you have "libxine-extracodecs" installed?
[04:49] <kai_> when I looked in my package managers I couldn't find it
[04:49] <kai_> where can I get it?
[04:49] <_marcio> ola
[04:49] <Jucato> kai_: you need to enable multiverse first
[04:49] <Jucato> !multiverse | kai_
[04:49] <ubotu> kai_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:50] <_marcio> portuguese here?
[04:50] <Jucato> !pt
[04:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:50] <_marcio> ok
[04:50] <_marcio> obrigado
[04:50] <kai_> wow, I didn't know I had to all that
[04:50] <_marcio> is join?
[04:50] <Jucato> kai_: not all that. just the section about adding Multiverse
[04:50] <kai_> Thanx
[04:50] <binary2k2> _marcio: type /join #ubutnu-pr
[04:50] <kai_> oh, theres more
[04:51] <_marcio> ok thank you
[04:51] <Hawkwind> Or /join #Ubuntu-PT instead of PR
[04:51] <_marcio> is my first day here
[04:51] <kai_> what else do I need to do
[04:51] <binary2k2> damn typos
[04:51] <_marcio> and using ubunto
[04:51] <_marcio> ops
[04:51] <Jucato> or just click on the #ubuntu-pt word
[04:51] <_marcio> ubuntu
[04:51] <Jucato> kai_: after you enabled it, you can search for libxine-extracodecs in Adept
[04:51] <binary2k2> _marcio: click on the blue channel name
[04:52] <kai_> ok
[04:52] <_marcio> ok np
[04:53] <kai_> right this second, im tryin to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06
[04:53] <kai_> I'd figure that would help
[04:54] <Jucato> !upgrade | kai_
[04:54] <ubotu> kai_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:54] <kai_> I ran the commands for that
[04:54] <binary2k2> kai_: you mean help with mp3 support?
[04:54] <kai_> Im just waiting for the downloads and stuff
[04:54] <kai_> that and I would like to have the latest version
[04:55] <binary2k2> kai_: it's the same process on edgy for installing mp3 support
[04:55] <kai_> good....
[04:55] <binary2k2> kai_: unless you upgrade with it already installed
[04:55] <_marcio> iam search for this channel
[04:55] <_marcio> fly for fun
[04:55] <_marcio> is a game
[04:56] <BluesKaj> kai_, try www.imbrandon.com for the latest amarok repository
[05:00] <houssem> can anyone help me to have the 3D acceleration ?? i have an ATI X700 graphic card
[05:01] <binary2k2> !xgl | houssem
[05:01] <ubotu> houssem: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:01] <binary2k2> follow that guide
[05:02] <trappist> !ati | houssem
[05:02] <ubotu> houssem: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:03] <palvarez> epale soy nueva en linux necesito ayuda, tengo un problema con k3b
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Hah, don't think he wants XGL quite yet :)
[05:03] <palvarez> no me quiere copiar
[05:03] <Hawkwind> palvarez: English please
[05:03] <trappist> !es | palvarez
[05:03] <ubotu> palvarez: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:04] <palvarez> thank.!
[05:16] <blind_> can i get some help in installing beryl ??? this page is down http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php
[05:17] <blind_> help
[05:17] <blind_> :)
[05:19] <binary2k2> blind_: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[05:20] <blind_> 10x
[05:22] <blind_> how do i install i915 driver on edgy ???
[05:24] <binary2k2> blind_: it's already installed
[05:27] <blind_> 19x
[05:28] <blind_> what's gksudo ??
[05:28] <Jucato> !gksudo | blind_
[05:28] <ubotu> blind_: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[05:28] <Jucato> kdesu | blind_
[05:28] <Jucato> !kdesu
[05:28] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:29] <blind_> 10x
[05:30] <aqej> #u
[05:34] <blind_> what's better beryl or compiz ????
[05:35] <binary2k2> don't really know, but berly is easier to install on kubuntu
[05:35] <fdoving> !beryl | blind_
[05:35] <ubotu> blind_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:35] <binary2k2> *beryl
[05:35] <blind_> 10x
[05:42] <babob4722> there is no way to play mp3's is there?
[05:43] <binary2k2> !mp3 | babob4722
[05:43] <ubotu> babob4722: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:43] <binary2k2> babob4722: answer: yes, there is
[05:44] <Jucato> in Edgy, it's even easier. just try to play an MP3 in Amarok and a script will run which will let you easily install the needed codec
[05:45] <Gh0st75> yeah, noticed that when i went from dapper to edgy, was pretty sweet
[05:45] <Jucato> they have plans to make such things easier in Feisty, afaik
[05:46] <Jucato> they started with MP3's and Flash in Edgy
[05:50] <BluesKaj> having trouble with quicktime video in FF and konq .... any ideas?
[05:53] <curb> BluesKaj: cant u use mplayer plugin for ff?
[05:53] <PupenoR> Any ideas why Aptitude wants to remove kdelibs when I have kubuntu-desktop installed and it is not being removed.
[06:00] <aib> The various Qt packages don't include the .la library files, but the SoQt package does. Does anyone have any information about this? It seems to be problematic.
[06:03] <Helge> I would like to remove the router and then I would be without a firewall. What are the consequences?
[06:04] <blind_> can i get some repositories for beryl ... the ones on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl are down
[06:05] <Jucato> !beryl | blind_
[06:05] <ubotu> blind_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:06] <binary2k2> blind_: i use "deb http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org edgy beryl-svn"
[06:06] <blind_> can i get some repositories for beryl ... the ones on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl are down
[06:06] <blind_> plz
[06:06] <blind_> :)
[06:07] <RobNyc[] > is there anyway i can have my kde like this http://picasaweb.google.com/jmarrero
[06:07] <Jucato> blind_: people in #ubuntu-xgl might know better
[06:13] <notech> RobNyc[] : you mean the color scheme?
[06:13] <RobNyc[] > no
[06:13] <RobNyc[] > everything
[06:19] <PupenoR> Any ideas why Aptitude wants to remove kdelibs when I have kubuntu-desktop installed and it is not being removed.
[06:20] <BluesKaj> orphaned libs ?
[06:21] <notech> RobNyc[] : not sure of the theme of the red 'jewel' in the task bar suggests beryl
[06:21] <notech> but the red...
[06:22] <RobNyc[] > yea but the kde menu and all that stuff without beryl
[06:23] <PupenoR> BluesKaj: is that to me ?
[06:24] <notech> RobNyc[] : oh, sorry. i'm not very familiar with kde
[06:25] <PupenoR> even the package kde is being uninstalled.
[06:25] <notech> RobNyc[] : might check kde-look.org to see if it's a certain theme or style
[06:26] <notech> Pupeno: what were you doing in aptitude?
[06:27] <PupenoR> notech: cleaning up, I marked all packages as auto and then marked kubuntu-desktop as non-auto, it should have marked all dependencies as needed, but it didn't.
[06:27] <notech> oh
[06:28] <LordOllie> could some one remind me of the command that opened a dialog to install a theme
[06:28] <LordOllie> ?
[06:28] <sorin> hello everybody
[06:29] <sorin> bah oameni care stiti romina?
[06:30] <PupenoR> oh, kubuntu-desktop doesn't depend on kde.
[06:30] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: ping
[06:30] <Jucato> LordOllie: a .kth theme?
[06:30] <sorin> nu mai este vorba de limba romina
[06:30] <LordOllie> jucato: yeah, you told me last night
[06:30] <Jucato> LordOllie: Alt+F2, kcontrol?
[06:30] <Jucato> sorin: English please
[06:31] <LordOllie> jucato, thanks I made a note of that now :)
[06:32] <LordOllie> that last theme I got was horrible
[06:32] <sorin> who know romanian language?
[06:34] <LordOllie> anyone know if there is a kth file for the mac osx theme?
[06:35] <Jucato> might want to check out something called Baghira
[06:35] <sorin> for romanian?
[06:36] <livingdaylight> Can someone explain to me why i have xine Movie player twice in my Menu?? and moreover how i can delete one of the entries
[06:37] <gnomefreak> its kwin-baghira :)
[06:38] <livingdaylight> also i'm looking for an application which facilitates easy printing. One that allows selection of a number of default sizes There is such an application called GnomePhotoPrinter i wonder if there is a KDE equivalent
[06:46] <cossidhon> Anyone knows where to find a package of kaffeine 0.8.3 for edgy?
[06:46] <LordOllie> isn't installed auotmatically?
[06:47] <Jucato> no. Edgy only has 0.8.2
[06:47] <cossidhon> Eh, no edgy has 0.8.2 and I apt-get update daily
[06:50] <livingdaylight> Can someone explain to me why i have xine Movie player twice in my Menu?? and moreover how i can delete one of the entries
[06:50] <livingdaylight> also i'm looking for an application which facilitates easy printing. One that allows selection of a number of default sizes There is such an application called GnomePhotoPrinter i wonder if there is a KDE equivalent
[06:50] <PupenoR> cossidhon: maybe you can get it from edgy+1 according to http://pupeno.com/blog-en/unstable-packages-on-ubuntu/
[06:50] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: if you ask one question at a time you might have more luck.
[06:51] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: right-click on the K lets you edit the menu.
[06:54] <livingdaylight> thx, PupenoR, why did it give me two entries for Xine MOvie player? this is bizzare. Can i trust Edgy? I am feeling very very nervous when weird things like this happen
[06:55] <cossidhon> PupenoR: Thanks for that link, Do I understand that I get the source from Feisty to build on edgy? Why then nog download the source from kaffeine site?
[06:55] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: why do you think i would have more luck if i asked only one question? maybe someone knows the answer to one but not the other...
[06:56] <livingdaylight> Anyone using Feisty yet?
[06:56] <RobNyc> how can i restart kicker?
[06:56] <livingdaylight> even if it is  not the latest
[06:56] <livingdaylight> i'm looking for an application which facilitates easy printing. One that allows selection of a number of default sizes There is such an application called GnomePhotoPrinter i wonder if there is a KDE equivalent
[06:56] <Jucato> RobNyc: Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[06:57] <livingdaylight> Jucato: hi, how are you?
[06:57] <RobNyc> thanks Jucato
[06:57] <Jucato> livingdaylight: doing fine... a bit... :)
[06:57] <PupenoR> cossidhon: you are not just downloading the sources of kaffeine, you are downloading the sources of the kaffeine package wich has the kaffeine sources and some more to build a package.
[06:58] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: people tend to work on one issue at a time, particularly when doing just voluntary work.
[06:58] <cossidhon> PupenoR: OK, thanks, i'll look into that. Another route would be to request a backport :-)
[06:58] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: what are you on about??
[06:59] <RobNyc> Jucato, now my kde looks like this http://picasaweb.google.com/jmarrero
[06:59] <PupenoR> cossidhon: yes, but for that you'll have to wait. With my solution you'll have the package in half an hour or less. The backport might even be denied (the ones I asked for were denied).
[06:59] <Jucato> good for you
[06:59] <PupenoR> cossidhon: and my solution is pretty safe, if it doesn't work just remove the package.
[07:00] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: I don't have a clue why you have two entries, maybe a re-install or an upgrade of a package not so well packaged or some other bug somewhere else. Right-clicking in the K you can edit the menu, delete it and that's it.
[07:00] <cossidhon> PupenoR: OK, thanks, I will try this :-)
[07:01] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: thx, for the right-click K prompt
[07:01] <zorglu_> RobNyc: which os/kde are you running to get this kmenu ?
[07:01] <PupenoR> you are welcome.
[07:01] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: dude, you are masterful. That looks like SUSE SLED
[07:03] <RobNyc> zorglu_, Kubuntu Edgy
[07:03] <RobNyc> livingdaylight, yes
[07:04] <zorglu_> what is this vlos stuff, i looked at their web site and they dont say
[07:04] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: how did you give it the SLED look?
[07:04] <zorglu_> just that 'vlos is a fantastic way to get the best software' :))))))))
[07:04] <livingdaylight> what is VLOS?
[07:05] <Jucato> another distro
[07:05] <zorglu_> http://vidalinux.com/index.php?set_albumName=album01&id=screenshot_0002&option=com_gallery&Itemid=40&include=view_photo.php
[07:05] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok thanks
[07:05] <RobNyc> livingdaylight, www.distrowatch.com/VLOS on irc #vlos
[07:05] <livingdaylight> Jucato: I thought he said it was kubuntu
[07:05] <RobNyc> livingdaylight, I got that look on my kubuntu now
[07:05] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: i thought you said kubuntu
[07:06] <Jucato> I think he meant his Kubuntu looks like that now
[07:06] <livingdaylight> how many os's has this guy got?
[07:06] <RobNyc> whos this guy ?
[07:07] <RobNyc> that link is what the KDE on VLOS looks like.. and its Default now.. but I got that look on my Kubuntu Edgy because I know the vlos guys
[07:08] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: how did you get teh Sled look done?
[07:08] <RobNyc> some directions is on beryl's site but their site is down
[07:09] <hmg4> Is there some software that i can use with TV-card?
[07:09] <zorglu_> RobNyc: you may tell them that their web site make them look as a 'money scam' scheme :) vlos is a fantastic way to get the best software <- this kind of stuff
[07:10] <livingdaylight> why have i got a folder on my desktop called cdrom0?
[07:10] <livingdaylight> i ejected cdrom1 and yet i'm left with this folder on m y desktop mnow
[07:10] <zorglu_> livingdaylight: because you got a cdrom in your drive ?
[07:10] <RobNyc> zorglu_, its the only good gentoo based distro surviving bilingual too
[07:11] <livingdaylight> zorglu_: no, i took it out
[07:11] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: Sabayon is quite nice too
[07:11] <zorglu_> RobNyc: i didnt comment on the real quality of the distribution, i dont know it, but i comment based on my perception of their web site
[07:12] <RobNyc> livingdaylight, well I've used VLOS since 2004 so its been here for a while
[07:12] <RobNyc> it's gotten quite a few review (Gentoo done right)
[07:12] <RobNyc> and now its just better than ever
[07:13] <zorglu_> RobNyc: cool, they just have to find someone to do the website now :)
[07:13] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how to rid the blue cdrom0 icon on my desktop
[07:14] <RobNyc> zorglu_, u can do it :)
[07:14] <zorglu_> no :)
[07:19] <RobNyc> zorglu_, http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ct9.jpg
[07:20] <RobNyc> http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2iw2.jpg
[07:21] <zorglu_> i think i should try edgy some days :)
[07:21] <zorglu_> at least on livecd :)
[07:22] <RobNyc> lol
[07:22] <RobNyc> os[rob@KubuntuPrescott, Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686]
[07:23] <neo_> hello
[07:23] <neo_> ciao
[07:23] <neo_> c' nessuno
[07:23] <neo_> avrei un problema
[07:23] <neo_> i have a problem
[07:24] <neo_> ho fatto l'aggiornamento di kubuntu da 6.06 a 6.10 e ora grub si  aggiornato ma non c' piu windows
[07:24] <Jucato> !it | neo_
[07:24] <ubotu> neo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:24] <neo_> thanks
[07:32] <Flosoft> hey
[07:32] <Flosoft> I have got a problem
[07:32] <Flosoft> when I try to use Kiax for VoIP it crashes when I call something
[07:32] <Flosoft> my console says: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1141ij72.html
[07:33] <PupenoR> most of the 'voip clients' are so crashy.
[07:33] <zorglu_> Flosoft: this is kiax specific
[07:34] <livingdaylight> S.O.S
[07:34] <Flosoft> 0.8.5
[07:34] <Flosoft> it is the default version of Edgy
[07:34] <zorglu_> ok
[07:35] <livingdaylight> s.o.s
[07:35] <livingdaylight> help
[07:35] <hyper_ch> when does the lyrc script in Amarok crash? This happens quite often for me
[07:35] <livingdaylight> i can't get into my kubuntu i
[07:37] <soulrider> hi everyone
[07:37] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: can you be more specific ?
[07:38] <Bubba_Gump> livingdaylight: remove the cd ;)
[07:38] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: i'm seriously up the creek here
[07:38] <livingdaylight> Bubba_Gump: are you making fun of me?
[07:39] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: seriously, can you help?
[07:39] <livingdaylight> i don't want to have to do another fresh install
	can someone tell me how to rid the blue cdrom0 icon on my desktop (no, just very slow)
[07:39] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: I don't know, if you don't tell us more about the problem.
[07:39] <livingdaylight> Bubba_Gump: just have a chocolate mate
[07:39] <Bubba_Gump> heh :D
[07:40] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: i told you. i changed my screenresolution and now i can't get back into kubuntu.
[07:40] <Flosoft> anyone able to help me with my kiax problem?
[07:41] <PupenoR> Flosoft: it's probably a bug, report it to the kiax devs.
[07:41] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: because resolution didn't change i clicked on administration mode and entered passsword.
[07:41] <Flosoft> any other IAX client?
[07:41] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: so, what is going on now.
[07:41] <Flosoft> with a .deb package for edgy?
[07:41] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: then i rebooted and couldn't get in
[07:42] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: what does your screen show ?
[07:42] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: dude, i'm in a live cd here, I can NOT get into Kubuntu
[07:43] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: if you don't tell me what you screen shows when you 'can't get in' I don't know what is going on (I don't even know what "getting in" means).
[07:44] <PupenoR> Flosoft: unfortunately, I boubt it :(
[07:44] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: i said everything already. I cannot login! I changed 1280 x ???? to 1024x780 but it wasn't saving so i clicked on admin mode and entered password and rebooted
[07:44] <Flosoft> damn :(
[07:45] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: no, you haven't say if you see an error and if so what error. You didn't say if you are seeing the loggin screen or not.... and why the heck would you 'reduce' the resolution ?
[07:46] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: it is my busineess why i would chnage resolutoin. I get to login page, enter password like i said but then it returns me to lgon screen
[07:46] <neo_> hello...can you say what utility make the scan of the system bootable?
[07:46] <neo_> this is made with the installer of linux
[07:46] <livingdaylight> PupenoR no there is no error message it keeps knocking me back to login page
[07:46] <PupenoR> Flosoft: I totally agree with you... I also work in VoIP and it sucks... but it seems there's not a big set of interested people in AIX or SIP clients for Linux at all, let alone specific environments like KDE.
[07:46] <livingdaylight> Can anyone help me here?
[07:46] <PupenoR> Flosoft: I'd love to develop one if I get paid for it. :)
[07:47] <Flosoft> hehe
[07:47] <Flosoft> well I can't help you out with that
[07:47] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me get back into Kubuntu?
[07:47] <Dragen> why can't you get in?
[07:47] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: basically you've chosen a resolution that doesn't work. I don't know how to get it back because evidently X is configured properly, you see KDM. I am not sure how the resolution is set afterwards.
[07:47] <PupenoR> Dragen: he changed the resolution to something that doesn't work on a per-user basis.
[07:47] <Flosoft> I am just looking for a .deb of an IAX2 Client
[07:48] <Flosoft> and kiax crashes :(
[07:48] <Varjat_by> How I can check what Kubuntu version a have installed?
[07:48] <PupenoR> Flosoft: BTW, if you find something that is not in a .deb, checkinstall can help you make a deb easily.
[07:48] <doppelganger_> hey guys, i've got a funky problem. I tried to install seti@home a while back, but during part of the installation it tried to connect to the seti servers, but couldn't. Now even when i try to get rid of it, it tries to reach that same server, and won't ever complete. I can't install any packages now because of it being in the way. Any idea how to get it out of the queue to be installed/uninstalled?
[07:49] <livingdaylight> PupenoR 1024x768 is a resolution that works
[07:49] <Flosoft> hmm yeah
[07:49] <Flosoft> I tried to install idefisk, but it has problems with the sound device
[07:49] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: ok, whatever.
[07:51] <animimotus> hi
[07:51] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: run this: grep -R "1024x768" /where/you/installed/kubuntu/home/
[07:51] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: better: grep -R "1024x768" /where/you/installed/kubuntu/home/
[07:51] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: better: grep -R "1024" /where/you/installed/kubuntu/home/
[07:52] <livingdaylight> puppenoR where i installed kubuntu home?
[07:52] <Flosoft> PupenoR: I just opened iaxcomm, but it crashes too
[07:52] <animimotus> doesn't exist a firefox-gnome-support for kde ? ^^
[07:53] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: yes, you'll have to mount the partition where you installed Kubuntu (/dev/hda1 ? /dev/hda3 ?) somewhere, like /media/kubuntu and then run grep -R "1024" /media/kubuntu/home/, that will show some lines. If you show me that I might be able to tell you how to fix it.
[07:54] <PupenoR> Flosoft: I know your strugle, I went thru it less than a month ago.
[07:54] <Flosoft> PupenoR: Any solution?
[07:55] <PupenoR> Flosoft: unfortunately, I haven't found any, but you might be more lucky.
[07:55] <PupenoR> Flosoft: the sound problem might be due to arts using /dev/dsp
[07:55] <wildchild> how do I untar "file"
[07:56] <wildchild> if i am in the path that contains "file"
[07:56] <PupenoR> wildchild: tar xvf file.tar
[07:56] <Flosoft> yeah
[07:56] <Flosoft> afaik it uses ALSA
[07:56] <Flosoft> (iaxcomm)
[07:56] <PupenoR> Flosoft: then, just kill arts to see if it works.
[07:56] <wildchild> PupenoR what xvf mean
[07:57] <PupenoR> wildchild: if it is tar.gz, then tar xvfz file.tar.gz, if it is tar.bz2, then tar xvfj file.tar.bz2
[07:57] <PupenoR> wildchild: man tar will tell you.
[07:57] <Dragen> wildchild: detailed list of commands can be read by typing  "man tar"
[07:57] <jamonation_> why do some .tar.gz files not tab complete even with the correct xvzf options?
[07:58] <wildchild> k tnx
[08:01] <oliver_> hi
[08:01] <oliver_> has someone compiled dazuko.ko for edgy ?
[08:05] <Varjat_by> How I can get current Kubuntu version number?
[08:06] <rag> please do you know drivers or links for Epson TM-U210D ?
[08:06] <swami> tru xzvf
[08:06] <swami> try xzvf
[08:06] <swami> cause the order counts
[08:06] <cloakable> Varjat_by: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <swami> or try gunzip fisrst
[08:07] <Varjat_by> :) lsb_release -ca
[08:07] <Varjat_by> At now: I have installed version 6.06 .. How I can update it to 6.10?
[08:08] <cloakable> Varjat_by: For the love of God, get the CD and install from that.
[08:09] <cloakable> Varjat_by: Updating to 6.10 seems to be an unholy nightmare.
[08:09] <Varjat_by> :(
[08:11] <oliver_> dazuko configure can not find kernel-source files, what could be the reason ??
[08:11] <LeeJunFan> kernel headers not installed.
[08:12] <LeeJunFan> !headers
[08:12] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[08:12] <cloakable> !kernel
[08:12] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:14] <Varjat_by> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - is this manual true for Kubuntu? Or it is Ubuntu only?
[08:15] <LeeJunFan> Varjat_by: basically what's for one is also for the other except for gnome applications.
[08:15] <LeeJunFan> !upgrade
[08:16] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:17] <milaks> Hello. Is there any KDE application, that would be like frontend to 'listen'? I would like to see which programm is sending and receiving in real time.
[08:22] <drarem> is ajax linux-browser friendly for development or is it more a MS thing
[08:22] <trappist> drarem: firefox and konqueror handle it just fine in most cases
[08:24] <drarem> i'll give it a go, ty
[08:30] <otaku-san> ok dumb question....how do you change the color of your desktop font...I'm having a brainfart
[08:31] <Helge> I use Ktorrent 2.1 dev and pnp plugin running and no firewall. I have red crosses on DHT, whats up?
[08:31] <Helge> Google didnt please me on this one
[08:31] <trappist> Helge: I don't know what most of that means, but are you going through a NAT router?
[08:32] <Helge> No router, there is a switch that I dont think there is much to do with
[08:32] <Helge> So I say no, no NAT
[08:35] <icheyne> Helge: can you download normal torrents OK?
[08:35] <trappist> Helge: unless you're irc'ing from somewhere else, you are behind a firewall
[08:35] <icheyne> Helge: do you have this problem with Azureus?
[08:36] <Helge> Yeah, it actually works, but would it work better with this dht thing in order?
[08:36] <Helge> I am behind a firewall? Well I doubt that
[08:37] <Helge> Azureus never worked on linux for me
[08:37] <icheyne> Helge: DHT is useful for old torrents with no tracker
[08:37] <Helge> Bugs
[08:37] <icheyne> it's not essential
[08:37] <icheyne> Helge: try utorrent under wine - that will let you test DHT as well
[08:37] <Helge> I got the dev version and it seems to be better than the normal one, I receive more peers now
[08:37] <icheyne> trappist: how do you know Helge is behind a firewall?
[08:38] <trappist> icheyne: port scan
[08:38] <Helge> Is it ok not be behind a firewall?
[08:38] <icheyne> Helge: well that settles it
[08:38] <icheyne> firewalls are generally good, but not for bittorrent - especially if you cannot open ports
[08:38] <icheyne> trappist: did you use nmap?
[08:39] <trappist> icheyne: yes
[08:39] <Helge> I should do nothing with this, that is your conclusion?
[08:39] <icheyne> thanks trappist
[08:39] <icheyne> Helge: try to find out how to connect to your switch
[08:39] <icheyne> maybe put <IP_ADDRESS> into the address bar of your browser
[08:39] <icheyne> maybe <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:39] <trappist> more likely his isp is blocking this stuff
[08:39] <icheyne> depends
[08:39] <icheyne> trappist: sure
[08:39] <Helge> Ok, I got it today(!) and I was told no setup
[08:39] <Helge> I check it out
[08:40] <icheyne> Helge: good luck
[08:40] <trappist> Helge: switches don't filter traffic.  I really doubt it's your switch
[08:40] <milaks> Hello. Is there any KDE application, that would be like frontend to 'listen'? I would like to see which programm is sending and receiving in real time.
[08:40] <icheyne> Helge: listen to trappist he knows more than me
[08:42] <Helge> I also have a IP phone that is between me and the internet, I was told it worked as a router, but didnt interfer with anything
[08:42] <Helge> I didnt find anything on the switch
[08:42] <icheyne> it might not be
[08:42] <icheyne> as trappist says, it might be your ISP
[08:42] <icheyne> bye
[08:42] <bLaZeD> anyone in here use guarddog?...
[08:43] <cloakable> Not I, but I did, why?
[08:43] <bLaZeD> where does it log to?
[08:43] <conrad_> how do i change screen  resolution?
[08:43] <bLaZeD> i just installed lastnight b4 bed and was wondering where it logs......its enabled to.....
[08:44] <conrad_> is the screen resolution in settings just a token gesture or does it actually work?
[08:44] <conrad_> 1280 is too small for me
[08:44] <bLaZeD> conrad_, u can manualy set it by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:45] <conrad_> i have a 19" widescreen monitor b ut 1400x900 is not detected,   but 1024x768 works best
[08:45] <conrad_> bLaZeD:  so one has to manually edit xorg files in Linux to change screen resolution? what is the Kontrol center for?
[08:46] <bLaZeD> but conrad_ not as i dont use it
[08:46] <bLaZeD> *not sur
[08:46] <bLaZeD> *e
[08:46] <bLaZeD> bah
[08:46] <bLaZeD> conrad_, u can but like u said....it didnt detect it....so u can do it the down and dirty way
[08:47] <conrad_> bLaZeD: can i jut uncomment, and how?
[08:47] <Creeture> Kubuntu box, old AC97 soundcard. Can't get sound when using the alsa driver (snd-via82xx.ko) but the OSS module (via82cxxx_audio.ko) works like a champ. I can't get KDE, XMMS, Firefox, VLC all to agree to share the sound device. Any tips?
[08:48] <bLaZeD> conrad_, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/272 edit that in yours accordingly..then see if it appears in the kcontrol
[08:49] <bLaZeD> conrad_, but
[08:49] <bLaZeD> conrad_, BACK UP your old one 1st
[08:49] <bLaZeD> conrad_, if u mess up this one and dont have a back up.....you are forked
[08:49] <conrad_> !paste
[08:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:50] <conrad_> bLaZeD: i got forked already anyways. this is a fresh install, and if this doens't work out i'm going back to ubuntu
[08:50] <conrad_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34829/
[08:51] <conrad_> bLaZeD: can i uncomment the sizes i dont' want or do i have to take them all out
[08:51] <bLaZeD> and 1440 x 1440 is what u want?
[08:51] <cossidhon> PupenoR: To bad. Feisty is also still on kaffeine 0.8.2, and I want 0.8.3 in edgy
[08:52] <PupenoR> cossidhon: oops!
[08:52] <conrad_> bLaZeD: well, that is the natural size for a 19"widescreen but i've never seen it on linux. I always use 1024x768
[08:53] <PupenoR> cossidhon: if there's something important in 0.8.3, please, fill a bug report. Other than that take a look at checkinstall and/or upgrading a package from upstream.
[08:53] <bLaZeD> wait 1440 x 1440 is a square
[08:53] <bLaZeD> ?
[08:53] <bLaZeD> is it not?
[08:53] <conrad_> bLaZeD: lol, yea, but i know what you eman 1400x900
[08:53] <PupenoR> bLaZeD: if the pixels are square ;)
[08:54] <bLaZeD> oh well in your xorg.xonf its 1440x1440
[08:54] <bLaZeD> not 1440x900
[08:54] <cossidhon> PupenoR: No, its not _that_ important. I will keep the Feisty sources in my sources.list and keep checking if 0.8.3 is in, thanx for the help!
[08:55] <RawSewage> !Java
[08:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:55] <PupenoR> cossidhon: Feisty devs might not notice the new version of kaffeine and for them it is not so much work to upgrade, so, please, fill a bug report about it.
[08:56] <bLaZeD> conrad_, oh yea after u edit your xorg.conf.....u will need to log in and out of x(xtrl alt backspace will do) then see if its in there
[08:56] <cossidhon> PupenoR: Okay, we'll do
[08:56] <PupenoR> thank you.
[09:00] <steveire> Hi. I have a trivial shell script with echo "sometext" >> somefile in it which I can execute from the command line, but when I click the file in konqueror, it does not execute. Any idea why? The script also has a shebang and is mode 777
[09:01] <RawSewage> right-clic it
[09:01] <RawSewage> properties
[09:01] <PupenoR> steveire: tried a .sh extension ?
[09:01] <RawSewage> theres a checkbox to make it executable
[09:01] <steveire> it has one.
[09:01] <PupenoR> RawSewage: mode 777 makes it executable.
[09:01] <RawSewage> ok
[09:01] <trappist> steveire: 777 is bad mkay
[09:02] <steveire> trappist: It's a trivial example to demonstrate that this definitely doesn't work
[09:02] <PupenoR> steveire: even then, konqueror may not run shell scripts because it could be used as a boby-trap.
[09:03] <PupenoR> steveire: right click on it, click on the tool and see how that particular type of flag is being handled.
[09:03] <steveire> There is no tool
[09:06] <PupenoR> steveire: sorry, right-click, properties, and then on the little icon with a tool (I don't know how the tool is called in english).
[09:06] <steveire> application preference order etc, Kate etc.
[09:07] <PupenoR> steveire: maybe you can put there some application that instead of opening the file, runs it, like konsole -e (I am not sure if that's the right argument).
[09:08] <steveire> Yeah, I'm gonna do that now. I don't think I want the -e, that would open a konsole window.
[09:08] <PupenoR> steveire: if you put konsole whatever it'd open a konsole window, maybe you can put bash there ;)
[09:09] <trappist> steveire: or make a shortcut to it, with the 'open in terminal' flag on it
[09:14] <steveire> trappist: Where is the open in terminal flag?
[09:15] <steveire> sorry. I see it
[09:19] <AAA1> Hi all, I'd like to learn a programming language that would be cross platform, like I hear C++ is. Any suggestions (I'm a newbie)
[09:20] <fdoving> AAA1: python is a nice language.
[09:21] <AAA1> It is easy to learn? I've never heard of it.
[09:22] <AAA1> thanks fdoving
[09:24] <AAA1> Can I use Anjuta to compile it?
[09:25] <trappist> AAA1: you don't compile python, usually
[09:25] <AAA1> oh,
[09:26] <trappist> it's a scripting language
[09:26] <AAA1> that might make things easier, and will my Python programs work on other OS's (for when I'm away from home)?
[09:26] <trappist> like perl, ruby, etc.
[09:26] <AAA1> like Javascript?
[09:26] <AAA1> or vbs?
[09:26] <trappist> yes
[09:26] <AAA1> cool
[09:27] <trappist> AAA1: you can do things in python that aren't cross-platform, but if you don't, then yeah, they should run anywhere (if you have a python interpreter installed)
[09:28] <pussfeller> !firefox2
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <pussfeller> !firefox
[09:28] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:28] <Frederick> folks wich program can I use to set up the compression rate of a jpeg file?
[09:28] <snowice> I have a problem playing flac files in amarok, it cuts of the last few seconds of every file. Problem is prob with the xine engine. Any fix for this?
[09:32] <drarem> ack, what's the command again to configure and make to compile source code
[09:32] <drarem> sudo ./configure  ?
[09:33] <cloakable> drarem: Just ./configure
[09:33] <fiyawerx> sudo would just have to be for the make install more than likely
[09:34] <drarem> thanks, it checked the stuff and created a Makefile
[09:34] <fiyawerx> nod, then you just type make
[09:34] <Alzi2> Hey. Whenever I try to enable pseudo transparency in Konsole, only the colors change. It doesn't display any background image. I tried editing the schemes and whenever i tried turning on transparency and saving, the next moment i edit it it went off again. Anyone?
[09:34] <drarem> thanks, i'll add that to my notes for next time
[09:35] <Alzi2> Searched the forums, but couldn't get answers. I hope someone knows...
[09:36] <trappist> Alzi2: I believe there's an open bug on that
[09:36] <trappist> on launchpad
[09:36] <Alzi2> Can you link me?
[09:38] <bunsen> hi
[09:38] <bunsen> where acn i find "all sources" sources.list tu kubuntu edgy ?
[09:38] <bunsen> can
[09:39] <mc__> bunsen: souch a thing wouldnt be a good idea
[09:39] <mc__> bunsen: all addition sources are dangerous
[09:39] <bunsen> mc__: what do you mean ?
[09:39] <bunsen> mc__: so where can i finde good and safe sources.list example ?
[09:39] <mc__> bunsen: it's not a good idea to add all 3rd party repos
[09:40] <bunsen> mc__: ok
[09:40] <mc__> bunsen: google for it
[09:40] <Alzi2>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <bunsen> mc__: i tried to google it .. but i can't find anything
[09:40] <mc__> bunsen: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:40] <Alzi2>  uncomment the universe section and add multiverse to them both.
[09:41] <mc__> bunsen: just follow the link i gave you
[09:41] <MrBallZ> hi, i have 3 packages in adept that won't upgrade, they say they are upgradable but if upgraded they'll break something else ... the packages are: build-essentials, dpkg-dev, g++  ... what should I do ?
[09:42] <Alzi2> mc__: That one doesn't have Edgy...
[09:42] <brainless_> I'm getting kind of scared here :/
[09:42] <bunsen> mc__: theres list's for ubuntu only ?
[09:42] <Alzi2> brainless_: Why?
[09:43] <brainless_> I'm doing a large step ... deleting the Windows partitions...
[09:43] <bunsen> mc__: to kubuntu edgy
[09:43] <Xal2> I attempted to reinstall Grub, but I installed it on the wrong drive (an NTFS drive) and now it appears to be empty, and needs to be formated. I installed it to the partition rather than the MBR
[09:44] <mc__> bunsen: what are you actualy trying to do?
[09:44] <brainless_> after using kubuntu without any problems (well, without any problems worth mentioning) and without booting to Win, I hope I can do without...
[09:44] <Alzi2> brainless_: Why without kubuntu?
[09:45] <brainless_> without Windows
[09:45] <bunsen> mc__: trying to find workins sources.list so i can upgrade ..
[09:45] <mc__> bunsen: just replace all "dapper" in your sources.list with "edgy"
[09:46] <Alzi2> brainless_: don't install it. You still need it at some point in your life.
[09:47] <trappist> Alzi2: what, windows? why?
[09:47] <mc__> bunsen: than do a sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:47] <mc__> bunsen: i meant update
[09:47] <mc__> bunsen: you should NOT upgrade with apt-get
[09:48] <Alzi2> trappist: Just admit it, you need it at some point in your life if you need something you can only do in windows. Be it in vmware, or harddrive.
[09:48] <brainless_> Alzi2: I'll try living the next year without a windows on this laptop and without doing anything on a Win-machine I couldn't do on my laptop - and then we'll talk again ;)
[09:48] <trappist> Alzi2: I haven't used windows at all in years
[09:48] <Alzi2> trappist: I still need it for some things..
[09:48] <lai> how come everytime I open my package manager it say I can't make any changes?
[09:49] <lai> I tryed restarting but I keep getting it, its like theres an open thread or something
[09:49] <trappist> Alzi2: the closest I come is wine, which fills in all the gaps for me
[09:50] <Alzi2> trappist: Well, being anti-windows is not good either. I have them both on my side =)
[09:52] <brainless_> Alzi2: well, I'm not anti-Win anymore ... I just don't want to use it anymore. It should be possible to survive this, shouldn't it?
[09:52] <Alzi2> [21:43]  <Chewy954> Alzi2, i know, im not a n00b, i had my own server b4 lolz <- Masterful. "I'm not a n00b lolz!" :D
[09:52] <lai> can any one help me out
[09:52] <Alzi2> brainless_: Nyah..... i don't want to use it either, but i'm forced to :P
[09:52] <brainless_> sorry to hear that ... I'm not forced to :)
[09:52] <trappist> Alzi2: I'm curious: for what?
[09:52] <brainless_> not yet, that is :/
[09:54] <brainless_> lai: is there some way to be more specific about your packet manager's behavior or just a "Can't make any changes"-message?
[09:54] <Alzi2> trappist: Games..... some documents (although they are getting more and more supported), proper downloading support...
[09:54] <lai> I can't make any changes
[09:55] <lai> Thats it, I can search for packages but I can't apply any
[09:55] <trappist> Alzi2: I can see games, but I'm happy to limit my gaming to what is available natively or via cedega.  I haven't found a document yet that I can't at least deal with in wine.  downloading support?
[09:56] <Alzi2> trappist: I'm not a WINE/Cedega(non-free) wizard (I wish there was WHISKY! :D, and I need my fun...
[09:56] <brainless_> lai: you've typed in your password?
[09:56] <trappist> Alzi2: I can dig that, but that doesn't quite qualify as 'forced' :)
[09:56] <lai> yea
[09:57] <Alzi2> trappist: Some friends want me to play some games :P
[09:57] <lai> It loads and everything, but right before it gets to the main screen it says "can't make any changes" , make sure that something else isn't using adept but I restarted to make sure nothing was using it
[09:58] <brainless_> I feared so ... maybe reconfiguring your packet manager helps? Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure adept"
[09:58] <MrBallZ> I have 3 packages in adept that won't upgrade, they say they are upgradable but if upgraded they'll break something else ... the packages are: build-essentials, dpkg-dev, g++  ... what should I do ?
[09:58] <lai> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.<---the message I get
[09:58] <Alzi2> brainless_: I didn't know you could reconfigure package managers? neat :P
[09:58] <pelle_> hey guys!  I need help!  how do I format my Windows partition and add that memory to my Linux partition?
[09:58] <brainless_> you can try to ;)
[09:58] <Bubba_Gump> is the lyrc server down?
[09:59] <brainless_> pelle_ are you sure you know what you're going to do?
[09:59] <pelle_> yes, I wanna get rid of Windows
[09:59] <pelle_> cause I neveru se it
[09:59] <pelle_> never use it*
[09:59] <pelle_> I asked earlier but the guy didnt ansver
[10:00] <pelle_> it had something to do with Krusader or whatever
[10:00] <B-Minus> I have a dual boot system, i installed kubuntu with 20 GB space, windows got the other 80 GB, now i want to give linux 40 G more, is that still possible ??
[10:00] <brainless_> to make it an ext3-partition, use "mke2fs -j /dev/hdx*"; to check that partition for errors, add a -c behind the -j (and to do real hard error detection, use "-c -c" and go for some camping...
[10:01] <carlos_> Does anyone know how to acess a digital camera on Kubuntu? I have a Kodak CD43.
[10:01] <brainless_> Alzi2: it seems like I am able to reconfigure my adept, at least dpkg-reconfigure adept doesn't give an error message for me...
[10:02] <pelle_> kthx
[10:02] <lai> dpkg --configure -a <--- this command it fixed unexpectdly
[10:02] <brainless_> pelle_: no problem, just don't come asking how to get the partition back...
[10:03] <pelle_> but do does it know wich partition to format?
[10:03] <lai> I know what happend I had an update that could never finish
[10:04] <pelle_> the partition is called dev/sda1
[10:04] <brainless_> lai: can you tell if it's known that this update may never finish? if not, it might be worth a bug report...
[10:04] <jason> pelle_, use the command sudo fdisk -l and it will show you which partitions are on your system
[10:04] <pelle_> so do I go: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda1/hdx
[10:04] <brainless_> pelle_: is it an SATA-hdd?
[10:05] <carlos_> Does anyone know how to acess a digital camera on Kubuntu? I have a Kodak CD43.
[10:05] <pelle_> SATA 2
[10:05] <jason> if you had a pre-existing windows installation before you installed ubuntu, your windows partition will more than likely be hda1
[10:05] <danny500> um I have an extremly bad problem.
[10:05] <danny500> I think some one is hacking me
[10:05] <danny500> and my firestarter won't work properly
[10:05] <Furesho> i just installed superkaramba via adept and i just installed the tuxbar theme from kde-look.org following the instrucs to a tee. problem is, i don't see not dock bar on my desktop like i should and google isn't helpin much. any clues?
[10:06] <danny500> what does that do?
[10:06] <pelle_> brainless:  /dev/sda1 is what I wanna format and add to my /dev/sda3
[10:06] <brainless_> pelle_: ok, I just expected a hardware setup you obviously don't have ... just use "/dev/sda1" (IF sda1 is your windows' partition), "/dev/hdx*" has two variables in it, x and * (with x being the hard drive we're talking about and * the partition number)
[10:07] <pelle_> how do I figure out the x?
[10:08] <danny500> Furesho> what does superkaramba do?
[10:08] <brainless_> pelle_: I am not able to tell you how to add sda1 to sda3 (I've never merged partitions in Linux) but you could just assign a mount point to sda1 and use it...
[10:08] <danny500> never mind
[10:08] <pelle_> brainless:  and how can I do that?
[10:08] <lenscape> !picasa
[10:08] <ubotu> Picasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html
[10:09] <pelle_> brainless:  and I dont know which harddrive it is
[10:09] <brainless_> pelle_: hda: First hard drive on the first IDE controller, hdb: second hard drive on the first controller, hdc: first hard drive on the second controller, hdd: second hard drive on the second controller...
[10:09] <pelle_> oic
[10:09] <BluesKaj> !superkaramba
[10:09] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[10:09] <cloakable> !karamba
[10:09] <pelle_> sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda/hda1
[10:09] <pelle_> is that right?
[10:10] <brainless_> nope
[10:10] <brainless_> "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda1" will probably work for you
[10:10] <cloakable> !Samba
[10:10] <cloakable> :(
[10:11] <pelle_> alot of stuff going on now with the Terminal :S
[10:11] <brainless_> to assign a mount point to sda1, go into the K Menu -> System Settings -> Disk&Filesystems and enjoy the graphical interface or edit the fstab
[10:12] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:12] <pelle_> thank you
[10:12] <brainless_> thank me when it all works out ;)
[10:12] <BluesKaj> !fstab
[10:12] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[10:13] <brainless_> hmm ... the mtab lists everything that is mounted, fstab lists everything that can be mounted, doesn't it?
[10:13] <pelle_> brainless:  ok haha
[10:14] <brainless_> ok, my kubuntu is down for a reboot ... if it all worked out, I'll be back with an encrypted /home...
[10:14] <danny500> if this is your info speak now, c-68-32-68-55.hsd1.ga.comcast.net if no one answers me I'm going to be erasing this guy hard drive!
[10:16] <danny500> ip address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <danny500> anybody?
[10:16] <brainless_> doesn't sound like me...
[10:16] <danny500> ok
[10:16] <brainless_> are you sure the system on that IP address does not equal <IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:18] <danny500> um, why did I get kicked? I'm just asking a question cause somebody is hacking me.
[10:18] <trappist> danny500: you don't threaten to do something destructive to a remote machine, even if you think you're being hacked.
[10:19] <danny500> I'm not
[10:19] <fiyawerx> danny500: you didnt ask a question, you 'threatened to erase someones hard drive' and if you were that competant and able, chances are you wouldn't be getting 'hacked'
[10:19] <danny500> was that an actuall remote machine?
[10:19] <fiyawerx> and would already have known the answer to your original question
[10:19] <trappist> danny500: did you think it was your machine?
[10:20] <danny500> I did that so if anyone in this is the one doing it would stop, sorry.
[10:20] <trappist> danny500: for future reference, don't.
[10:20] <danny500> ok
[10:20] <strlng> I'm trying to remove a package and it's erroring out, is there some way to flush or force remove a package with apt?
[10:21] <hyper_ch> hiya trappist
[10:21] <hyper_ch> hello abbatoir
[10:21] <BluesKaj> yeah there is , strlng, but you may end up with broken pkgs
[10:22] <strlng> BluesKaj: It's a package with no dependencies installed so I'm not too worried.
[10:22] <danny500> strlng< look up the program and erase everthing that is related to it.
[10:22] <BluesKaj> ok
[10:22] <strlng> danny500: and then my package db is still screwed up
[10:24] <ramo1> hi all, im having some problems with getting a phpmyadmin install on ubuntu 6.10 I can not seem to get the apt get. Im new to ubuntu so anything will help I guess....
[10:25] <strlng> BluesKaj: Would you be able to tell me how to force a package removal?
[10:27] <BluesKaj> string , sudo dpkg --force- remove-"filename "
[10:29] <lenscape> !googleearth
[10:29] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[10:30] <lenscape> I do like this little bot
[10:30] <BluesKaj> Google Earth has problems with some ATI cards in Edgy
[10:30] <lenscape> Nvidia innit :-)
[10:31] <eilker> !varrun > eilker
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about varrun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <jakub_> hi all
[10:38] <jakub_> i was running a program in screen on computer A in which i ssh'd to computer B
[10:38] <jakub_> so i background process P and then the screen on computer A is abrupted by a restart
[10:38] <jakub_> so now i have a tty-less process running
[10:38] <jakub_> how do i get the process running foregrounded on computer B again?
[10:39] <bryan_> can someone tell me how in konquerer i can see all the top level folders?  in breezy and dapper i would use the navigation panel and select the root folder tab.  but in edgy it only shows my home and media folders
[10:40] <hanso> hey. when I watch videos in fullscreen I get horisontal stripes in movement. what can be wrong?
[10:40] <LordOllie> has anyone got any version of MSN messenger to install?
[10:41] <hyper_ch> aMSN
[10:41] <hanso> bryan: go to "view" and "view hidden files"
[10:41] <LordOllie> hyper_ch: tried it but it is still lacking features
[10:42] <jakub_> i don't want to kill the process, but i want to make sure i see the output of it
[10:42] <jakub_> how would i do that? i basically want control over the process again
[10:43] <wildchild> !apache
[10:43] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:43] <bryan_> hanso: thanks, that showed all the folders on the right side, but not the left like it used to.  also, why are these folders considered hidden? they don't start with a dot?
[10:43] <fiyawerx> jakub_: the screen was running on the machine that rebooted?
[10:43] <jakub_> fiyawerx: correct (for our purposes, let's call it computer A)
[10:44] <LordOllie> can anyone help me with installing MSN? or is it impossible?
[10:44] <hanso> bryan: that I don't know. and I don't know how to get them to show on the left side
[10:44] <fiyawerx> jakub_: hm, maybe you should have run the process under screen on computer B :)
[10:44] <fiyawerx> good question tho
[10:45] <bryan_> hanso: ok, not showing on the left isn't such a big issue.  but i don't like that i now have to show hidden files no view non-hidden folders
[10:46] <Permafr0st> hallo welt
[10:47] <hanso> bryan: ask again and see if there are other who know a solution
[10:48] <otaku-san> how do you change the background of konqueror?
[10:49] <bryan_> can someone tell me how in konquerer i can see all the top level folders?  in breezy and dapper i would use the navigation panel and select the root folder tab.  but in edgy it only shows my home and media folders.  if i show hidden files, i can view all the folders and files on the right, but they are not hidden and i shoudn't have to do this.  breezy and dapper worked as expected.
[10:52] <Permafr0st> root folders to be shown by clicking one of the left tabs !?  (i use Dappy)
[10:52] <suds> hi, got a strange problem with my kubuntu..on booting, unless i press ctrl-alt-f7, the x windows doesnt start! absolutely nothing in log files...anyone else come across this strangeness?
[10:53] <Permafr0st> oups
[10:53] <suds> btw, i'm using edgy eft
[10:53] <bryan_> Permafr0st: if you press F9 to display the navigation panel then select root folder, you will see al your folders in dapper
[10:53] <LordOllie> has anyone here installed a Java IDE?
[10:53] <bryan_> in edgy you only see home and media folders
[10:53] <Permafr0st> Dapper was recommendet to me - stable - for the beginners
[10:55] <Permafr0st> bryan yeh i know thanx. thought it could be a solution to you..
[10:56] <Permafr0st> oh i'm afraid i have to deal with the JRE one day, unless im not able to launch my DVD apps..
[10:56] <Permafr0st> DVB sorry
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> LordOllie: try Eclipse
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> i installed it once on Ubuntu
[10:57] <bryan_> it's just frustrating that's all because that as always been my primary way to navigate the system and now it's gone
[10:59] <crusty> hallo......my webcam SN0C105 is not working on kubuntu...any help??? thanks
[10:59] <bryan_> it's ok... i'll ask in a few hours, may a different group of people will be here, thanks Perm and hanso
[10:59] <Martijn81> quick question, does every unix system has a file /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> bryan_: it's in /.hidden
[10:59] <Martijn81> the systems which run kde that is
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> everything is still accessible, but you have to search for it, it's kind of a ne feature but I don't like it
[11:00] <Permafr0st> ah ein Deutscher :) hallo Smooph
[11:01] <Smooph> hi
[11:02] <bryan_> admiral: thanks.. i see it... so i just have to rename this file away??  i'm new to linux, coming from windows and navigating from the navigation panel felt natural in breezy and dapper.  i don't see why they would hide this feature.  i like to seeing everything and use the "edit as root" feature
[11:03] <sungam> hi
[11:04] <easytiger> hey... i'm following the instructions http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Installation_HowTo#Distribution_Packages but the package list is apparently wrong
[11:04] <easytiger> how do i get latest amarok?
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> bryan_: the idea is that those are your root files, if you need to edit them, you wouldn't do it in konqueror
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: let me get you a link
[11:04] <Permafr0st> yet another question: anyone successfully installed Klear DVB app. ?
[11:05] <easytiger> Admiral_Chicago: : thanks
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[11:06] <bryan_> Admiral: thanks... i renamed the file away it works as expected.  but i do edit root files in konquerer via the "edit as root" option :)
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> bryan_: if you know the location, you can do a kdesu kate /location
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> anyways i'll bbl
[11:08] <easytiger> Admiral_Chicago: when i run apt-geet update after adding those sources it gives an md5sum error
[11:09] <bryan_> Admiral:  yes i know what you are getting at and i do that.  but i usually browse to the file then edit.  just a windows habit...
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: do you have riddell's key?
[11:09] <easytiger> i added it yea.. i'll try adding it again
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: what line did you use?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> hmm.. ./make  isn't working  ...sometimes ./config works and sometimes it doesn't ...it worked this time  , but now ./make isn't .. WTH ?
[11:11] <Permafr0st> Blues  as plain user or with "sudo" ?
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: what does the INSTALL file tell you?
[11:11] <eukaryote> Anyone know how to turn off kasbar? It doesn't seem to have a 'close' capability. What am I missing?
[11:11] <easytiger> Admiral_Chicago: line
[11:11] <easytiger> ?
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: ./configure && make && sudo make install is the chain, sudo shouldn't matter
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: what line did you add to your sources.list
[11:13] <Permafr0st> Admiral  tnx i will try (have the same prob as BluesKaJ)   .. but bash: "  ./configure: No such file or directory  "
[11:13] <easytiger> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: what does ls say?
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe try a pwd to make sure your in the right dir
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: hold on a suc
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, no such file or directory
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> sec*
[11:14] <Permafr0st> the bash is at /home/pino/klear-0.6.0
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: btw, are you on dapper?
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> okay give me a sec
[11:15] <Permafr0st> k
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste > Permafr0st
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> paste the ls output of the dir
[11:16] <Kr4t05> Question. I just transfered my install to a new hard drive, and now I have some permission problems. What can I do to set perms to default?
[11:16] <Kr4t05> I'm using the LiveCD right now.
[11:17] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:  oups ok, im new to this bot functin
[11:17] <Permafr0st> function
[11:17] <ubuntu__> hey i have a question, can kubuntu be installed on an external hard drive via firewire?
[11:17] <afm\colossus> installed of course
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> just open the link, and enter the ls output and hit enter. then post it to me
[11:17] <afm\colossus> if your system is able to boot from ieee1394
[11:18] <afm\colossus> that's more of a question
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> the link after you submitt it to the page thaht is
[11:19] <ubuntu__> well i am on a mac, so if i install it, and reboot while holding down the option key, then it whould work right??
[11:19] <Permafr0st> ooh cool
[11:19] <Permafr0st> Admiral   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34847/
[11:19] <Kr4t05> How would I set the file permissions for my entire system to the default?
[11:20] <afm\colossus> by reinstalling ;)
[11:20] <Kr4t05> afm\colossus: Not my first choice... But, I suppose I may as well...
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: what does the INSTALL.README.FIRST file say?
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> open it. "nano INSTALL.README.FIRST"
[11:21] <Frederick> folks wich program can I use to browse newsgroups in kde?
[11:21] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34848/
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install scons
[11:23] <Frederick> Admiral_Chicago: for me?
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> no to Permafr0st
[11:23] <Frederick> k
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Frederick: what do yoe mean newsgroups/
[11:23] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:   tnx i ll try now
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: then ./build.sh
[11:25] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:  scons successful tnx.  but he misses qt:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34849/
[11:25] <henk> hi I seach a Driver for a Canon MP130
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: look for qt-headers, same for libxine and kde
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search qt headers
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm going to bbl, PM me if you wish Permafr0st
[11:27] <sungam> Frederick, Think Thunderbird has built in usenet news reader. There's KNews and PAN too, but I haven't used them
[11:27] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:  tnx.  im not registered it will block my pm
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: email me
[11:27] <henk> help please
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !printing
[11:27] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:28] <henk> i seach a driver for a Canon mp130 printer
[11:28] <afm\colossus> www.linuxprinting.org
[11:28] <Permafr0st> !qt
[11:28] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[11:30] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is your addy?
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> no i PMed you
[11:31] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:  k, tnx so far very much :)
[11:31] <bLaZeD> is there a way to tell if a program is trying to axx the internet...and if so on what port(s)....long story short i have a few programs that use some weird port...and i need to open it in my firewall....
[11:32] <afm\colossus> man netstat
[11:32] <bLaZeD> well if the firewall is blocking it...will netstat still show it trying to connect?
[11:33] <afm\colossus> netstat can only show established connections
[11:33] <fiyawerx> if the firewall is blocking it, can't you check the firewall program or its logs?
[11:33] <lalo> hello all
[11:34] <afm\colossus> there's the LOG target for packets caught by netfilter
[11:34] <lalo> can someone help me about getting the free space of my disk on kubuntu?
[11:34] <afm\colossus> df -h
[11:35] <lalo> i mean...i have kubuntu on a partition...i would like to know the free space of the kubuntu partition
[11:35] <BluesKaj> well, i don't understand the inconsistencies with ./configure , make, make instakk commands ...must be that the pkges are lacking some required components
[11:35] <BluesKaj> install
[11:36] <bLaZeD> afm\colossus, im a litle confused...is it possible to lets say open programA and tell what ports its trying to axx the inet with>
[11:36] <fiyawerx> BluesKaj: those commands are (usually) fairly consistant with telling you what you're missing when they fail
[11:36] <melecio_> question. I'm on Kubuntu Edgy and i have a HD of 160 GB wich i have partitioned for Windows XP and Linux... so, every time i log on with Kubuntu i have to mount a partition i wich i keep my files but, kubuntu doesn't seem to save this config, everytime i restart de PC i have to mount the partition... i was told that i had to edit /etc/fstab, help?
[11:36] <sungam> lalo, afm\colossus already answered you.  We can read lowercase too.
[11:37] <Frederick> eukaryote: yup
[11:37] <bLaZeD> well how with it....didnt u just say that netstat can only show connections established
[11:37] <afm\colossus> yeah well, outbound connections too ;)
[11:37] <eukaryote> Frederick: knode seems quite pleasant; not used it myself, just looked at it
[11:38] <BluesKaj> fiyawerx, like nor directory ?
[11:38] <melecio_> no one?
[11:38] <icheyne> anyone know of a good photo editor. I'm not keen on Krita or the Gimp
[11:38] <bLaZeD> ah
[11:39] <icheyne> ?
[11:39] <afm\colossus> there are virtually no alternatives
[11:39] <icheyne> :(
[11:40] <LjL> there's some non-free alternatives. Pixel32 for instance
[11:40] <afm\colossus> yuck.
[11:40] <icheyne> yeah I've heard of it.
[11:40] <rockprincess> evening all! does anyone know how to configure java on kubuntu?
[11:40] <LjL> !java
[11:40] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:40] <icheyne> afm\colossus:why yuck? non-free or rubbish or both?
[11:40] <afm\colossus> non-free
[11:40] <icheyne> ok thx
[11:40] <afm\colossus> as long as there are viable alternatives
[11:41] <afm\colossus> there's no need to go proprietary
[11:41] <rockprincess> LJL: i've done that....but i can't figure out how to set the classpath and the path :(
[11:41] <icheyne> yeah, but for me gimp and krita aren't too viable :(
[11:41] <icheyne> I'm trying to run Photofiltre over wine now
[11:41] <afm\colossus> for me, both of them are ;)
[11:41] <icheyne> it's my favourite in Windows
[11:42] <icheyne> hey it seems to work!
[11:42] <icheyne> :D
[11:43] <BluesKaj> icheyne, any lil utility for redeye removal ...my sony dhc-50 prog doesn't install in linux
[11:43] <LjL> rockprincess: what are you trying to configure java for? web browsing of java sites, or something else?
[11:43] <sungam> melecio_, yes. Edit /etc/fstab. Syntax varies a bit depending on what kind of file system and such. There's a howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[11:44] <icheyne> it's easier than the others. Like I said earlier - Picasa is good too
[11:44] <rockprincess> LjL: no i need to write a program in java, and i always get errors and i assume it's due to the false path....
[11:44] <Pupeno> Any recomendation of P2P programs for Kubuntu ? Other than ktorrent, I am looking for a traditional P2P protocol... if it includes/is Gnutella, better.
[11:44] <melecio_> sungam: thanks a lot.. i'll give it a shot
[11:44] <afm\colossus> mldonkey
[11:44] <afm\colossus> @ Pupeno
[11:45] <icheyne> !p2p | Pupeno
[11:45] <ubotu> Pupeno: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[11:45] <cloakable> !guarddog
[11:45] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[11:45] <LjL> BluesKaj: digiKam inclues that AFAIK
[11:46] <BluesKaj> ok LjL, thx ...I'll check it out  :)
[11:46] <sungam> melecio_, be careful with it, though. Make sure you take a backup before you try anyhting you're not sure about :)
[11:46] <rockprincess> LjL: also i would need to set the correct CLASSPATH to the Java Media Framework (JMF)
[11:47] <rockprincess> LjL: but again I don't know how...
[11:47] <eukaryote> I tried kasbar but don't like it. How do I get rid of it?
[11:48] <icheyne> BluesKaj: I just tried Dijicam. It does a very nice job of red eye reduction. very sweet indeed
[11:48] <icheyne> out goes picasa!
[11:50] <MidMark> hi
[11:50] <MidMark> I've installed mysql, but there is no init script installed...
[11:50] <MidMark> how can I start it?
[11:51] <afm\colossus> what did you install?
[11:51] <afm\colossus> mysql-server-5.0?
[11:52] <MidMark> yes
[11:52] <afm\colossus> there is an init-script for sure
[11:52] <afm\colossus> i happened to edit it today ;)
[11:52] <MidMark> emm ok sorry
[11:52] <MidMark> I've only the client :)
[11:52] <afm\colossus> ;)
[11:53] <MidMark> I've installed wordpress and thought it have installed also the server
[11:53] <MidMark> but seems not
[12:00] <sungam> melecio,  how did it go?
[12:00] <nickv111> I just reinstalled Kubuntu yesterday, and the CD recognized my sound card as an ATI SB card. However, now that I've rebooted and such a few times, it's now (incorrectly) recognized as a ALC883. When it was recognized as an ATI SB card, it worked really well, but now, though the sound works, I don't have nearly as many options in kmix, and a lot of things don't work right
[12:00] <nickv111> How do I prevent it from labeling it as an ALC883?
[12:01] <kgx> hi. how can start konsole with 2 tabs with 2 session types?
[12:03] <MidMark> kgx: start them and save as default
[12:04] <alm_> hello everybody
[12:04] <alm_> can anybody tell me which version of alsa is in edgy
[12:04] <afm\colossus> colo@spareparts:~$ cat /proc/asound/version
[12:04] <afm\colossus> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC).
[12:06] <kgx> MidMark: hmm..good idea. cheers
[12:06] <melecio> sungam: it worked! thanks a lot!
[12:06] <alm_> afm> thanks..but can I update it to 1.0.13
[12:08] <yiannis> geia
[12:08] <alm_> because i cannot hear sound from my laptop speaker,only can hear it from headphone..will upgrade solve this issue
[12:10] <ubunt> DE or EN?
[12:11] <fiyawerx> alm_: can always try a live boot to see if it does
[12:11] <ubunt> Anybody out there?
[12:11] <ubunt> ups.
[12:11] <fiyawerx> hi ubunt: lots of people usually check in often but not watch constantly
[12:12] <ubunt> short question. Can I install "original" debian packages on ubuntu? For example I would like to run RKWard but the version is 0.3.6 and the current is 0.4.1.
[12:13] <mc__> ubunt: you can but its not guaranted to work
[12:14] <ubunt> mc__:how does it come that the packages is to outdated? Do you know. I use to run Kanotix (which is Debian/Sid).
[12:15] <mc__> ubunt: ubuntu is based on a freezed version of debian testing