[19:01] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yes, I know. I am doing my final thesis though so I am not in the right mood now to install 12.04 yet. But I will do it. Thanks for remembering me about it.
[19:01] <ryan_> that only displays my ethernet, not wireless
[19:02] <Chakravanti> there's no way my netbook will handle a live install.  I have always needed alternate images. what am I to do with 12.10 for it?
[19:02] <Pici> Chakravanti: I'm not sure what WDE is.  If you trying to install a customizable install, the minimal install image offers that.
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: oh for sure, if time isn't a luxury I wouldn't upgrade. EVen if my release was EOL
[19:02] <Pici> !minimal | Chakravanti
[19:02] <mazhar> can anyone tell, how to configure slapd
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> mazhar: http://www.debuntu.org/ldap-server-and-linux-ldap-clients
[19:03] <on5sl> ikonia: when i do ./darkstat start it does say start deamon and done. But it's not running afterwards...
[19:03] <Chakravanti> That should work then thanks Pici !
[19:03] <ikonia> on5sl: ok, so you'll need to work through the script
[19:04] <on5sl> ikonia: pff so this package sucks
[19:04] <on5sl> it should work by default imo
[19:04] <ikonia> on5sl: how do you know ?
[19:04] <on5sl> ikonia: why doesn't it start then?
[19:04] <ikonia> on5sl: it probably does, you may have a problem with your config for example
[19:04] <aleksandar22> anyone know how to link skype and empathy
[19:04] <aleksandar22> and chat with skype contacts from empathy 20:02:29
[19:04] <aleksandar22> I tried http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/run-skype-as-a-daemon-and-manage-it-from-empathy-in-ubuntu-11-04 20:02:44
[19:04] <aleksandar22> but in Ubuntu 12.10 20:02:48
[19:04] <FloodBot1> aleksandar22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <aleksandar22> emptahy uses ubuntu online accounts 20:02:56
[19:05] <on5sl> ikonia: i got to go now but thx for the help!
[19:05] <mazhar> i ahve also intalled LUMA, how to use that <ActionParsnip>
[19:05] <aleksandar22> sorry
[19:05] <aleksandar22> here is goes
[19:05] <aleksandar22> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1356165/
[19:05] <aleksandar22> it  goes*
[19:05] <FloodBot1> aleksandar22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:07] <hceylan> Hello, having upgraded to 12.10 I am having problems with spell checker in browsers. Both Firefox and Chromium has no spell checker available.
[19:07] <hceylan> Anyone can confirm it is not me but generic error?
[19:10] <mike_papa> hey, I get really low resolution on 12.10 loading screen (the maroon, or whatever this color is, I'm a man. I recognize 7 colors ;), the one with Ubuntu 12.10 and dots changing colors. It's annoying. How can I change it? Boot cd has this nice high resolution screen...
[19:10] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: But I will get an external HDD to borrow for a while soon hopefully so I can copy over all my important documents and then install 12.04.
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: why do you not have a backup already?
[19:11] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I just followed your kind instructions on the reinstallation of Flash. I am now testing it on Chromium.
[19:11] <aleksandar22> anyone willing to help me
[19:11] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Since I am a poor student, do not have enough money to buy an external HDD at the moment
[19:12] <mazhar> How to add 10 user accounts to your ldap server using *.ldif ? plz help me someone
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: dropbox is free for about 2GB. UbuntuOne is 5Gb free
[19:12] <killer> anyone able to run age of empire 3 warchiefs in crossover or wine
[19:12] <aleksandar22> DrGrov: And both have support for 500 mb increase per invitation :)
[19:12] <aleksandar22> killer: try wine hq
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> killer: did you check the appdb?
[19:13] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I actually got an HTC One X so I get 20GB on Dropbox. I got it actually so I could easily transfer a few big files there of my backup.
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: especially the thesis ;)
[19:13] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: BTW, thanks for the Flash help. It is running now brilliantly.
[19:13] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yes, especially that one LOL :)
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: no worries dude
[19:14] <magesing> Any mdadm gurus here?
[19:14] <killer> ActionParsnip:rated gold with wine 1.4
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> killer: scroll down, there will be a how to to make it ok
[19:14] <aleksandar22> killer: That's good
[19:14] <shojo> aleksandar22: im willing, not sure if able :)
[19:14] <DrGrov> Any big fans of Football Manager here and testing FM with Wine?
[19:14] <shojo> but ill try
[19:14] <aleksandar22> shojo: cool
[19:15] <shojo> just state your problem, then if people know the answer ,they tell you... That's how it works
[19:15] <aleksandar22> I already did :D
[19:16] <aleksandar22> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1356165/
[19:16] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Are you up to help with a small other issue I have with Synaptic/Update Manager?
[19:16] <mazhar> How to add 10 user accounts to your ldap server using *.ldif ? plz help me someone
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: ask away, i've not got long
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> mazhar: tried in #ldap too ?
[19:16] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I have a libreoffice library file that it wants to update but it refuses to update so it keeps hanging on there for ever and it is not an irritation but it still picks my eyes every time I do some updating.
[19:16] <dimitri> salve ieri l'altro ubuntu è passato dalla <IP_ADDRESS> alla <IP_ADDRESS> ed ora non parte più la grafica e mi chiede di andare in grafic low ma poi si blocca. per farlo partire debbo mettere a mano la <IP_ADDRESS> come risolvo ?
[19:17] <aleksandar22> DrGrov: I fixed a similar proble mby installing a package which depends on the problematic package. Boost in my case.
[19:17] <jrib> !it | dimitri
[19:17] <mazhar> yes, it should be a script
[19:18] <aleksandar22> shojo: ?
[19:18] <DrGrov> aleksandar22: Okay, it might have been left out for some reason.
[19:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: So here goes the text again.
[19:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I have a libreoffice library file that it wants to update but it refuses to update so it keeps hanging on there for ever and it is not an irritation but it still picks my eyes every time I do some updating.
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: close the updater and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      pastebin the text please
[19:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Will do.
[19:20] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1356194/
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: looks fine..one package kept back which will come down once its deps are met in the repos
[19:21] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Okay, no worries then. It is picking it from a LibreOffice PPA since I wanted to have LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.
[19:21] <ses1984> i'm trying to install
[19:22] <ses1984> ubuntu on a machine, the live cd works fine, but after installing and rebooting i see a message that unable to set mode on crtc
[19:23] <insmod_> my flash in full screen is small?
[19:23] <ses1984> i've tried to add nomodeset to /etc/default/grub and i continue to have the same problem
[19:23] <hhhzzzarn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/216825/recovering-deleted-ext4-ubuntu-partitions-using-testdisk-none-partition-media-t
[19:24] <hhhzzzarn> ses1984, what is your problem again? no GUI (black screen and text mode on boot)?
[19:25] <ryan_> I have downloaded a driver for my Wireless COntroller, I know that it is located in Firefox's Downloads folder. How do I install this step-by-step?
[19:26] <hhhzzzarn> ryan, is it a .deb file?
[19:26] <ses1984> hhhzzzarn: yes, in ctrl-alt-f7 it just says '...failed to set mode on [CRTC:10]' whenever i try to do something but i can log in via text mode in any other screen like ctrl-alt-f1
[19:27] <ses1984> i have tried to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and nothing happens but it does send a '...failed to set mode on [crtc:10]' error to the f7 screen
[19:27] <hhhzzzarn> ses1984, what version of ubuntu is the problem occuring on? 12.10?
[19:27] <ryan_> it is a .zip
[19:27] <ses1984> 12.04 and 12.10 both. live cds work, reboot fails to get the gui going
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ryan_, it's most likely in ~/Downloads , are you sure you need this driver and not a kernel source driver (alreadyin ubuntu ,but not activated)  for your wifi ?
[19:28] <ses1984> i'm using a geforce 6150 integrated graphics which apparently is troublesome to a lot of people but none of the fixes i've tried have helped, like reconfigure xserver xorg or use nomodeset in /etc/default/grub
[19:29] <hhhzzzarn> ses1984, I was thinking of this other problem/bug where: only in ubunutu 12.10 the live cd nor the installed version of 12.10 would boot with gui. This is a problem with the graphics driver and 12.10.
[19:29] <ryan_> when i lspci, my wireless controller does not display although everything else does along with the ethernet controller.
[19:29] <hhhzzzarn> ses1984, that other problem was with intel gma.
[19:30] <ryan_> I am not sure if I already have the proper driver installed and just turned off or something
[19:30] <hhhzzzarn> need help with: http://askubuntu.com/questions/216825/recovering-deleted-ext4-ubuntu-partitions-using-testdisk-none-partition-media-t
[19:30] <zykotick9> ryan_: is you wireless a pci card?  or something usb?  lsusb for later
[19:30] <ses1984> i just tried to enter the command startx and it seemed to do something, but then went back to text mode, the last few lines might be relevant. it says "resize called 1920 1080" then on the next line
[19:30] <ryan_> it is pci
[19:30] <ses1984> xinit: connection to x server lost
[19:31] <ses1984> maybe it doesn't like that resolution or something like that?
[19:31] <hhhzzzarn> ryan_: sometime, your wireless is off by hardware switch (hold down the wireless switch on your laptop and try internet again. Also right-click on network icon and make sure "enable networking" and "enable wireless" is on.
[19:31] <ses1984> but i believe i had 1920x1080 in the live cd environment
[19:31] <moonvoniron> hello 'vrybody , looking for something who opens .mpx files please
[19:31] <ryan_> The physical wireless switch is "On" and I am able to connect via ethernet, my networking is enabled.
[19:32] <CoffeeIV> My libreoffice is complaining about not having a JVM.  What is the most standard, common jvm I can install ?  I'm on 12.04
[19:32] <BluesKaj> ses1984, have you updated and upgraded lately , that bugfix should be in the repos ..I had the same issue  afew days ago
[19:33] <hhhzzzarn> coffeeIV, openjdk-jre (go to software center and search for java)
[19:33] <moonvoniron> need to open a .mpx file , help please
[19:33] <CoffeeIV> hhhzzzarn: thanks !
[19:34] <Pici> moonvoniron: whats an mpx file?
[19:34] <holstein> moonvoniron: http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/mpx
[19:34] <moonvoniron> swifi.mpx
[19:34] <hhhzzzarn> ryan_ can not help you more at the moment.
[19:34] <Pici> moonvoniron: okay, but that doesn't tell me what that file is.
[19:34] <holstein> http://mpxj.sourceforge.net/ in particular
[19:37] <ryan_> How do I install a .zip file once I cd into the directory?
[19:37] <Mmike> Hi. Can I somehow 'split' notifications that come from pidgin from emails? I'd like to have separate icon for pidgin, is that possible?
[19:37] <Mmike> (i'm using ubuntu 12.04)
[19:38] <jrib> ryan_: what program are you trying to install exactly?
[19:38] <holstein> ryan_: there should be a read.me... it really depends on the package
[19:38] <Kart> if you mean unzipping a file, try the unzip command
[19:38] <ryan_> Not installing a program, merely Wireless Controller Drivers
[19:38] <ryan_> they are contained within a .zip
[19:38] <Derp> nem um brasileiro aki ?
[19:38] <holstein> i would unzip it... and see if there is a read.me
[19:39] <Pici> !br | Derp
[19:39] <Kart> ryan_: have you tried unzip
[19:39] <Sta1ker> hello, thunderbird doesn't recognizes firefox as default, checked /usr/share/applications/defaults.list, mimeinfo.cache, update-alternatives and all set to firefox
[19:39] <Sta1ker> hello, thunderbird doesn't recognizes firefox as default, checked /usr/share/applications/defaults.list, mimeinfo.cache, update-alternatives and all set to firefox can anyone help?
[19:39] <X2_BI> hi guys, whats the difference between starting a additional qcoreapplication or a qeventloop ?
[19:40] <ryan_> There is an install.sh within the zip that has a ton of technical information.
[19:40] <Star_Light> is there any room about Mathematics?
[19:41] <jrib> Star_Light: ##math
[19:41] <Star_Light> thank you
[19:41] <jrib> ryan_: what drivers...?  What wireless card...?
[19:42] <Sta1ker> hello, thunderbird doesn't recognizes firefox as default, checked /usr/share/applications/defaults.list, mimeinfo.cache, update-alternatives and all set to firefox can anyone help?
[19:43] <ryan_> I am unable to view my Wireless Controller using lspci, I have looked up the manufacturer's specs and found the drivers online. I am looking to install them and have opened the .zip file within which is an install.sh
[19:44] <juggernat> alguem que fala minha lingua ai ?
[19:44] <jrib> !pt | juggernat
[19:44] <moonvoniron> pdfcreatorsetup.exe doesn'r want to open,help please
[19:45] <bekks> moonvoniron: You cant run windows .exe files on Ubuntu.
[19:45] <jrib> moonvoniron: why don't you use an application from the repositories?  .exe are meant for windows
[19:46] <jrib> Sta1ker: did you check the user-specific versions of those files?
[19:46] <Kart> hello ryan..if you are aware that the zip file has been downloaded from a trusted source .. just run ./install.sh
[19:46] <Kart> and see what you get
[19:46] <Kart> ryan_: if there are any errors, copy to paste bin and post a link
ok ok thank you,what means repositories? I'm french
[19:47] <jrib> !software | moonvoniron
[19:48] <Sta1ker> jrib: where are those?
[19:48] <moonvoniron> thank you !
[19:48] <jrib> Sta1ker: ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list, ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list, you should also check what opens when you run x-www-browser
[19:49] <jrib> Sta1ker: there's also gnome-www-browser, what opens when you run that?
[19:50] <Anaphaxeton>  i am using parted to recover a lost ntfs partition. i type rescue and i am asked for the area that needs to be searched. i want parted to search from the beggining (0) till the end. how do i designate the end? i dont know what the actuall number would be
[19:50] <komputes> moonvoniron: A server that holds packages available for download "depot de logiciel"
[19:50] <komputes> moonvoniron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[19:50] <moonvoniron> thank you :)
[19:50] <Sta1ker> jrib: seems ok
[19:51] <jrib> Sta1ker: too vague of an answer
[19:51] <Xeli> Does anyone know how to 'fix' the buggy wpa2 enterprise support(eduroam) on 12.04?
[19:53] <Sta1ker> jrib: all files seems ok. thunderbird is not. i'll try chromium for a sec
[19:53] <jrib> Sta1ker: so what opens when you run x-www-browser?  What happens when you run gnome-www-browser?
[19:55] <moonvoniron> i'm lost
[19:55] <Danielss89> if i have a command "leerory" that i want to keep running, when the server starts and start again if it stops.. what program would i use?
[19:56] <jrib> Danielss89: upstart
[19:56] <jrib> !upstart | Danielss89
[19:56] <jrib> Danielss89: see the cookbook
[19:56] <Danielss89> thx
[19:56] <jrib> Danielss89: you may be interested in "respawn"
[19:56] <jrib> moonvoniron: about?
[19:58] <Strategos> Heya hiya.
[19:58] <Danielss89> jrib: can i install it without breaking anything? :D
[19:58] <Danielss89> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:58] <Danielss89>   sysvinit
[19:58] <jrib> Danielss89: what ubuntu version is this...?
[19:59] <Danielss89> how can i check that ? xD
[19:59] <jrib> Danielss89: lsb_release -c
[19:59] <Danielss89> squeeze
[19:59] <jrib> Danielss89: that's debian, not ubuntu
[19:59] <zykotick9> Danielss89: squeeze is debian...
[19:59] <Danielss89> wtf.. lol
[19:59] <Danielss89> i'm on the wrong server xD
[20:00] <theadmin> Danielss89: Wrong channel, more of
[20:00] <moonvoniron> how to go on the ubuntu oftware center ?
[20:00] <Danielss89> theadmin: no i'm asking for my ubuntu server :D
[20:00] <moonvoniron> mine is uninstalled
[20:00] <Danielss89> i just ssh'ed to the wrong server
[20:00] <theadmin> moonvoniron: sudo apt-get install software-center then
[20:00] <jrib> moonvoniron: you run "software-center" in a terminal and what happens?
[20:00] <Danielss89> jrib: ok, the version is precise
[20:01] <jrib> Danielss89: you should already have upstart
[20:01] <narcos> Doh, connection dropped. Not sure if anyone answered me re the GSM modem sending SMSs ?
[20:01] <moonvoniron> thank you :)
[20:01] <jrib> narcos: I don't even see your question in my scrollback
[20:01] <narcos> jrib: Hm, maybe my connection timed out before you saw it, lemme repaste
[20:02] <narcos>
[20:02] <narcos> Hi all. I'm trying to get my Huawei GSM USB modem to send SMSs from Ubuntu. I've used usb_modeswitch to get it out of mass storage and into modem mode, and I have a /dev/ttyUSB[0-3]
[20:02] <narcos> I'm now trying sms_client - but I get timeout errors
[20:02] <narcos> I suspect when it tries to communicate with the modem
[20:02] <FloodBot1> narcos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:02] <narcos> Err - not sure if you got those 3 lines before FloodBot1 intervened
[20:03] <jrib> narcos: yes, but next time just use a '.' instead of the enter key
[20:03] <theadmin> narcos: We did.  This is going to sound really silly, but I think I need help filing a bug report on Launchpad.
[20:04] <Shihan> you could always try talking directly to the gsm modem via minicom with at commands and see what happens
[20:04] <theadmin> narcos: When I inserted my Huawei modem first, it was detected as /dev/sr1 (cd-rom device). I mounted that and installed the driver off there
[20:04] <Stuz719> narcos, theadmin - I think theadmin is right re Huawei stuff
[20:04] <hhhzzzarn> need advanced testdisk user
[20:05] <theadmin> ArcticLight: Normally you just do "ubuntu-bug packagename" from a commandline
[20:05] <moonvoniron>  Edit, Software Sources error
[20:05] <narcos> theadmin, Stuz719: OK - mine was noted as a mass storage device - I'll dig around in there and see if there are some drivers. What exactly would I be looking for? .ko files?
[20:06] <jrib> ArcticLight: you can also visit #ubuntu-bugs where they are basically dedicated to helping you file bugs
[20:06] <ArcticLight> theadmin: yes, I've got a .crash file, and I'm using ubuntu-bug, but when I press S to send the report, ubuntu-bug exits and I don't get the crash report page in my web browser...
[20:06] <theadmin> narcos: Ah no, if I recall right there was a "Linux" directory with an "install.sh" inside or somesuch
[20:06] <ArcticLight> jrib: Thanks, I'll check there.
[20:07] <theadmin> ArcticLight: Eh. Sounds like you don't have a default browser set, or it's set to a non-existing file
[20:07] <theadmin> ArcticLight: What desktop are you on?
[20:07] <narcos> theadmin: Great, thanks!
[20:07] <Stuz719> just done a g--gle for "huawei linux modem driver", try that. may come as a deb or rpm or sh script
[20:07] <jrib> why do you censor "google"...
[20:07]  * narcos goes  hunting
[20:08] <Stuz719> for the lulz. maybe I should have said Bing ha ha#
[20:08] <theadmin> narcos: You *may* need to copy all the files in "Linux" to a local directory due to the fact that the filesystem on the modem is read-only
[20:08] <theadmin> I don't remember if I needed that
[20:08] <ArcticLight> theadmin: I'm on ubuntu 12.10 (64 bit) on a laptop. Until just recently, ubuntu-bug worked correctly and would open reports in Chrome, which I have installed.
[20:08] <Snicers-Work2> When I pull from a source server to my local server using  --perms and sudo it does not retain ther source permissions. Am I doing something wrong?
[20:08] <Snicers-Work2> this is with rsync
[20:08] <AcidRain2012> is there any software for linux that will allow you to read text from an image? what im wanting to do is read the text on the back of a lottery ticket, and on the front. so i dont have to type out 2000 tickets
[20:09] <moonvoniron> how to run edit-software source ? please
[20:09] <Stuz719> acidrain you mean OCR stuff?
[20:09] <theadmin> AcidRain2012: There's "gimagereader"
[20:09] <theadmin> AcidRain2012: But I can't guarantee you the results will be great
[20:09] <AcidRain2012> Stuz719: correct
[20:09] <Shihan> i have a huawei modem myself, it didnt require anything special to talk to it tho
[20:09] <Lisbeth> Hello.
[20:09] <moonvoniron> how to run edit-software source ? please
[20:10] <theadmin> moonvoniron: gksudo software-properties-gtk
[20:10] <Stuz719> acidrain: tricky depends on font etc. try gimagereader as theadmin says... I think acrobat used to include OCR functionality...
[20:10] <moonvoniron> thank you :)
[20:10] <Stuz719> but so long since i used it i can't remember
[20:10] <theadmin> moonvoniron: Or just "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list"
[20:10] <theadmin> Stuz719: You're thinking of ABBYY Finereader
[20:10] <theadmin> Stuz719: Adobe never had any OCR...
[20:11] <Stuz719> theadmin: you sure? convinced that acrobat had it... so long since i used it tho i cud be wrong
[20:11] <theadmin> Stuz719: Oh Acrobat Reader, I'm not using that since version... 5? came out... Switched to Okular/Evince
[20:12] <Stuz719> theadmin: nah, full acrobat. had some nice features but ultimately even the security features (sigs etc.) cud be bypassed by using other s/ware
[20:12] <lastleo85> chrome or ubuntu os?
[20:12] <moonvoniron> it tells me "erreur logiciel"
[20:13] <theadmin> moonvoniron: Well that's not English so I can't read that
[20:13] <moonvoniron> permission invalide
[20:13] <Stuz719> theadmin: i think it means "logical error" ;-)
[20:13] <farciarz84> hi, is the unity bar movable to bottom in 12.10?
[20:13] <theadmin> Stuz719: Which makes no sense
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> i speak french, it means software error
[20:13] <farciarz84> I have 4:5 proportion on my screen
[20:14] <Stuz719> theadmin: unless you enter TRUE != TRUE or something?!
[20:14] <moonvoniron> yes logical !
[20:14] <theadmin> Stuz719: That's not an error... (True != True) == False
[20:14] <Stuz719> sad... just read "rastamouse is now known as nothingspecial". What would Wensley Dale say?
[20:14] <theadmin> Stuz719: Just some crazy mashup
[20:15] <nothingspecial> Stuz719: lol
[20:15] <Stuz719> theadmin: depends on which logic you're using ;-)
[20:15] <crackerjackz> what is the name of the program "movie player" in ubuntu?
[20:15] <farciarz84> hi, is the unity deskbar movable to bottom in 12.10?
[20:15] <jrib> crackerjackz: totem
[20:15] <crackerjackz> jrib: ty
[20:15] <T|ASK> Hi since I upgraded some PCs to12.10 they are pretty slow and they are getting even slower the longer the system is up. Any suggestions how to solve this?
[20:15] <moonvoniron> CPMMAND NOT FOUND
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> guys, logiciel means program or software -- logical = logiquement in frech
[20:16] <Stuz719> cheers monkeydust :-)
[20:16] <blackness> T|ASK, with that statement, you dont exactly explain exactly whats wrong..
[20:16] <blackness> what did you upgrade from T|ASK ?
[20:17] <AcidRain2012> ah. did anyone ever figure anything about about the OCR?
[20:17] <AcidRain2012> my comp timedout
[20:17] <T|ASK> blackness: I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and focusing windows takes up to 2 seconds
[20:17] <blackness> Did you install a updated nividia driver?
[20:17] <blackness> nvidia*
[20:18] <moonvoniron> Software error when i want to do any things !
[20:18] <T|ASK> blackness:  yes, on my system I updated to the newest one 310
[20:18] <Stuz719> acidrain google suggests tesseract
[20:18] <spajderix> I really need help because this really blew my mind just now. I have external hdd encrypted with luks, unmounted it somewhere around an hour ago and password doesn't work anymore. Check on other pc and same effect. Does anyone have any idea of what happend and how to turn it back?
[20:18] <blackness> have you ran a simple benchmark? or checked top for a run away process?
[20:19] <T|ASK> blackness: but I use bumblebee, and it's running Intel chip right now, but is still slow
[20:19] <blackness> i dont know what bumblebee is, let me google.
[20:19] <moonvoniron> Software error please help me
[20:19] <InTheZone> Hey. I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 with the Windows Installer. Everything went well, and now on Start Up when it prompts me to choose an operating system, after I select Ubuntu the screen goes black. I waited for a couple of minutes but nothing ever changes
[20:19] <zykotick9> blackness: bumblebee is for hybrid graphics setups
[20:19] <theadmin> > windows installer
[20:19] <theadmin> > everything went well
[20:19] <blackness> T|ASK, bumblebee is supported up to 12.04..did you know this?
[20:19] <theadmin> I doubt it
[20:19] <T|ASK> bumblebee.org
[20:20] <theadmin> InTheZone: Is your Windows system 64-bit?
[20:20] <InTheZone> no 32 bit
[20:20] <Stuz719> inthezone sounds like you're lacking vid drivers. had the same myself and had to step from 10.10 thru 11.04 to 11.10. Not fun
[20:20] <theadmin> InTheZone: Apparently WUBI doesn't work with 32-bit anymore for some insane reason and they never even warned anyone :/
[20:20] <moonvoniron> can someone help me?
[20:20] <theadmin> InTheZone: I have the same thing and dunno if I can help. I suggest doing a proper install
[20:21] <Stuz719> spajderix: how did you umount?
[20:21] <linux> problems: velocity of ubuntu in the virtual machine and ocr no function
[20:21] <Stuz719> moonvoniron: anything?
[20:21] <T|ASK> blackness: I can't imagine, because it's just switching graphic drivers on demand. I suppose, they just didn't update the info?!
[20:21] <InTheZone> I heard you can do something in the GRUB, like writing some code and stuff.
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> linux  that may virtualbox related, not ubuntu related
[20:22] <Stuz719> linux: what spec if machine you're running ubuntu in a VM?
[20:22] <spajderix> Stuz719: Well I just shut down my laptop and unplugged the hdd
[20:22] <ArcticLight> I'm still having trouble filing this bug and #ubuntu-bugs is silent. Any ideas?
[20:22] <T|ASK> blackness: also, the other system is a normal PC (no bumblebee) but standard NVidia running with same issues
[20:22] <Stuz719> did you umount first?
[20:22] <Stuz719> spajderix: i guess it's USB?
[20:24] <Strategos> Does anyone know of a decent printer/scanner (preferably network based) printer that'll work in Ubuntu 12.04?  My searches result in minimal success.
[20:24] <Stuz719> spajderix: can you see the drive when you plug it in?
[20:24] <Stuz719> strategoc: home use- try Epson 435SX
[20:25] <Stuz719> strategos: sorry Epson 435SX
[20:25] <Strategos> Stuz719: I'll look at that.  Thanks.
[20:25] <spajderix> Stuz719: Positive, it asks for pasword and shows me a message that there's no available key for a given one
[20:25] <dr_willis> need to look into one of those myself...
[20:25] <Stuz719> Strategos: may identify as a 430SX
[20:26] <spajderix> Stuz719: I also tried to open it up from terminal with cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc1 encr, but same effect
[20:26] <Stuz719> spajderix: try umounting it and then remounting
[20:26] <T|ASK> Is this ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1356382/
[20:26] <Stuz719> spajderix: no available key sounds... bad
[20:27] <T|ASK> Looks like my system is running the INtel graphics chip... but why do I have these performance issues?
[20:27] <spajderix> Stuz719: I've unplugged it and plugged it back if that's what you mean, I could try to reboot if it's going to help
[20:28] <Stuz719> spajderix: reboots often work miracles :-) but be careful of trying hotplugging it. I know USB is supposed to be resilient but.....
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> T|ASK  try removing old kernels and sudo apt-get autoremove obsolote packages
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> T|ASK  try removing old kernels and sudo apt-get autoremove to delete obsolote packages*
[20:29] <spajderix> Stuz719: ok, I'll try the reboot and get right back here
[20:30] <Stuz719> hope it works out for spajderix
[20:31] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: ok
[20:31] <yello> Hellow hellow, anyone know how to unlock an external hard drive with pass (hdparm). Problem is, it doesnt recognize USER. I try --user-master marcus, and it says "User=master", I try --user-marcus and it says "User=user", its ridiculus..
[20:31] <ArcticLight> Still having trouble with ubuntu-bug, and #ubuntu-bugs isn't helping (it's silent)
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> T|ASK  is internet slow, or the whole pc?
[20:32] <hhhzzzarn> need advanced help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/216825/recovering-deleted-ext4-ubuntu-partitions-using-testdisk-none-partition-media-t
[20:33] <yello> Hellow hellow, anyone know how to unlock an external hard drive with pass (hdparm). Problem is, it doesnt recognize USER. I try --user-master marcus, and it says "User=master", I try --user-marcus and it says "User=user", its ridiculus..
[20:33] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: I just can say that focusing a window takes up to 2 seconds ... internet is ok
[20:34] <yello> plz? or i might install windows.. then its byee ubuntu :{
[20:34] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: and the longer the system is up the slower it gets
[20:34] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: but 2 seconds is after runnnign the system for a whole day eg
[20:34] <Stuz719> yello: that's a bit extreme - have you tried parted magic or similar?
[20:35] <yello> it has an "Unlock.exe" that doesnt work with wine, i googled only way is hdparm..
[20:35] <yello> im not sure gparted or anything will solve :[
[20:36] <Xix19> how can I pass images continuously to ffmpeg and have it stream as webm?
[20:36] <yello> any clue?
[20:36] <yello> its a western digital drive...
[20:36] <Stuz719> yello: hmmm... sounds a tricky one.
[20:38] <Stuz719> yello: why would gparted or parted magic not work? they include hdparm
[20:38] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: Why did you select the option for a non partitioned disk?
[20:38] <Stuz719> yello: according to wikipedia anyway
[20:38] <Stuz719> spajdxerix: any joy?
[20:38] <yello> ok, so how do i do? + is it dangerous?
[20:38] <Stuz719> spajderix: any joy?
[20:38] <spajderix> Stuz719: not a bit :/
[20:39] <Strategos> :\
[20:39] <spajderix> now that sucks big times
[20:39] <Stuz719> yello: need a live CD/USB of relevant distro. And yes, playing with HDDs is always dangerous. Read the instructions. Read them again.  Check your backup works. Do it again. And then execute the command.
[20:40] <hhhzzzarn> Jordan_u because I just tried and I saw my parititons listed in quick search
[20:40] <yello> kk, but i rather download virtualbox tomorrow, and run password unlock on windows
[20:40] <yello> just wanted an iso b4 i sleep, but nvm:D bye, and thanks;]]
[20:41] <Stuz719> spajderix: Grrr. Frustrating. I'm afraid I'm at the limits of my knowledge here... sorry :-(
[20:41] <Stuz719> spajderix: other than trying a live distro to try and access and back up the files elsewhere
[20:41] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: How much do you care about getting the data back and how much do you care about having a working system?
[20:42] <uponatree> why does iconv 2.15 convert ö, ü, ä to o, u, a instead of oe, ue, ae? while iconv in version 2.11 on debian is fine...
[20:42] <spajderix> Stuz719: no problem, thanks for your time man, kudos, I'm almost sure that the important data sits some other place one of my machines
[20:42] <binary_glitch> hello, apparently the ubuntu community just jumps right on the logon channel? well hello everyone.
[20:42] <spajderix> Stuz719: Yeah I tried another machine just a second ago with some older ubu/kernel with the same effect so no update did it
[20:42] <Stuz719> spajderix: YVW - hope it was of help. And at the risk of stating the obvious, here's a salutory lesson in data management.  Test your backup. Then do it again. And then encrpyt!
[20:43] <Stuz719> Afraid I've got to go all. Thanks for having me along. See you all again soon.
[20:44] <binary_glitch> I'm having an issue with Hydra/xHydra and the lack of ssh2 anyone care to take a crack at helping me figure it out?
[20:44] <Stuz719> \quit
[20:45] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: My guess is that what is happening is that you have a configuration which can't currently be represented with an msdos partition table (needs more than 4 primary partitions or a second extended partition, neither of which is possible), and that is why testdisk isn't showing the lost partitions when using the "Intel" option (which is a terrible name for the option, IMHO).
[20:45] <BluPhenix316> hey guys i got ubuntu 12.10 installed, and I installed xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, fine(i just want to try out the different DEs), but when I installed kubuntu-desktop apt-get gets to Updating Initramfs and just hangs there and does nothing
[20:46] <binary_glitch> anyone?
[20:46] <hhhzzzarn> Jordan_U: ok. I don't care about the data on those because I could recover the data alone, I wanted to recover the partition so I don't have to install my programs again, do everything again.
[20:46] <BluPhenix316> i finally closed the terminal, changed initramfs.conf to not update and ran sudo dpkg --configure -a, but is there something seriously wrong? i've reinstalled and tried it again and its the samething, it hangs on updating initramfs
[20:47] <BluPhenix316> or is this a question for #kubuntu?
[20:47] <uponatree> hey guys, why does iconv 2.15 convert ö, ü, ä to o, u, a instead of oe, ue, ae? while iconv in version 2.11 on debian is fine...
[20:47] <sysadamin> if i was buying a graphics card for a htpc, running ubuntu - AMD / ATI?
[20:47] <sysadamin> which is prefereable / better supported
[20:47] <Strategos> Uponatree: Those are the English equivalents.
[20:48] <Strategos> Err, sorry - misread.  Disregard.
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> binary_glitch  technically, your question is for this channel, but a distro like backtrack is specialized in network intrusion - guess you better ask there, but mind: it is not supported here
[20:48] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: Well, I can't help you there then. If you want the data, you can probably choose to have testdisk treat the disk as GPT, but that will break Windows (irreparably) and Ubuntu (temporarily).
[20:48] <uponatree> Strategos: but why does the Debian version work fine? do I have to change some language settings?
[20:48] <zykotick9> uponatree: newer/less tested version i'd guess.  search/file a bug.
[20:48] <Macphisto> Has anyone had any successing using pbuilder and getting past a "failed to connect to MYSQL: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'" error during a build for a package?  The package's tests attempt a connection.
[20:49] <uponatree> zykotick9: thanks, I'll have a look over there
[20:49] <Macphisto> successing... not a word.  cripes.
[20:50] <hhhzzzarn> Jordan_U, I will just go ahead and reinstall the ubuntu, thank you anyways
[20:50] <binary_glitch> blackbox... and nobody's on our official channel plus we're on an italian server... I'm american, I don't speak italian, I don't even speak english, I speak american, and 5 other languages.... but no It.
[20:50] <Strategos> Uponatree: I presume you would need to change them.  But I misread your question initially; I didn't see that you had typed "o, u, a instead" for whatever reason.
[20:50] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: You're welcome.
[20:51] <Strategos> Uponatree: As for myself, I'm still tinkering with trying to figure out how to actually make umlauts and accent marks. :)
[20:51] <binary_glitch> anyone else interested in my question?
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> binary_glitch  as soon as someone else has an answer, they will most probably help you - repeat your question every 15 minutes or so
[20:53] <thibaut> Hi
[20:53] <Strategos> Heya hiya.
[20:53] <uponatree> Strategos: I had a look at the LANG var it states "C.UTF-8" on the Ubuntu system and "de_DE.UTF-8" on the Debian system. Then I changed the LANG var but the iconv output didn't change
[20:54] <chaingun> binary_glitch: what problem are you having specifically?
[20:54] <binary_glitch> okay... yeah this whole one channel on the server... everyone talks about everything is strange to me... oober busy to get herd...lol
[20:54] <binary_glitch> I'm having an issue with Hydra/xHydra and the lack of ssh2 anyone care to take a crack at helping me figure it out?
[20:54] <chaingun> what issue
[20:54] <chaingun> specifically
[20:54] <thibaut> I would like to know where to save yelp help pages so that they show up in Yelp under: Go -> All Documents
[20:55] <binary_glitch> Hydra doesnt take ssh2 option, so I looked in xHydra, and it's not in the dropdown menu... wtf?
[20:56] <puggle12> guys off topic but does anyone know a quick way to edit a price list in word to add $50 to each price automatically?
[20:56] <binary_glitch> I want to know how to get it back w/o downgrading a whole release ...
[20:56] <chaingun> so it was working in the past?
[20:56] <SeNO_> hel p plz
[20:56] <chaingun> and you updated
[20:56] <chaingun> and now it isn't?
[20:57] <binary_glitch> on blackbox 2 yes, now on blackbox 3 no
[20:57] <SeNO_> i tried installing ubuntu from usb but when it comes to the partition choose page it crashes without any partitions appearing
[20:59] <binary_glitch> SeNO_>I'v had that same isue before let me look at my install issue records and see how i fixed it... what's your basic spex/
[20:59] <tziOm> What is the proper way to add mount options for proc in 12.10?
[20:59] <chaingun> did you compile for source or install via some package maanger?
[20:59] <binary_glitch> It comes pre installed
[21:00] <binary_glitch> it's like bt, it's a pen-test'n distro'
[21:00] <chaingun> oh
[21:00] <SeNO_> binary_glitch im totally noob
[21:00] <chaingun> do you have it installed or are you running off a live CD?
[21:00] <chaingun> If you have it installed, I'd make sure I had the latest version
[21:01] <chaingun> and if the version available from the package manager isn't the latest, I'd grab the source and compile it myself. I believe the problem you are having is related to hydra not being compiled with LIBSSH support
[21:01] <binary_glitch> SeNO_>okay while I try to find a record of how I solved a simular issue, why dont you tell us about your hardware specifications.
[21:02] <SeNO_> i guess rthe problem can be with my hard disks as there are two 500 hdd and 32 sd
[21:03] <SeNO_> processor intel i5 3317u
[21:03] <SeNO_> ddr3 4 gb ram
[21:03] <SeNO_> intel hd4000
[21:03] <binary_glitch> I couldn't see why it wouldn't be set up with libssh support, and I do have the op for ssh, just not ssh2... but I'm dl'dng hydra now... just incase.
[21:04] <bekks> binary_glitch: You are still using ssh1?!
[21:04] <SeNO_> binary_glitch , sorry i didnt get anything from what u were saying
[21:05] <binary_glitch> lol it is setup by default...lol but I had support for both in bb2
[21:05] <bekks> binary_glitch: ssh1 is... outdated, insecury, messy. Dont use it. Dont. Never. Even if the world stops turning.
[21:06] <binary_glitch> oh, I'm also trying to find a solution to a password cracker for myself... lol
[21:07] <pradeep_> bekks, lol at "Even if the world stops turning."
[21:07] <booboo64985> Do you think the you could run a password cracker on a android proclaim? Theres gotta be a way to root it.
[21:07] <binary_glitch> oh, SeNO_  I found my notes... do you have imos sata sdd controler on your systemboard?
[21:07] <BluPhenix316> ok i tried some things and now i can be more specific
[21:08] <BluPhenix316> when i try sudo update-initramfs -uv it hangs at Adding module /lib/modules/3.5.0-18-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/vmwgfx/vmwgfx.ko
[21:08] <BluPhenix316> anyidea how to fix this?
[21:08] <chaingun> booboo64985: rooting the phone isn't just a matter of cracking the root account's (if it even exists) password
[21:09] <booboo64985> write just curious if the sbc code was there somewhere where you could run a number crunch or something.
[21:11] <BluPhenix316> how can i remove vmwgfx.ko from initramfs? i'm now using vmware
[21:12] <Snicers-Work2> Can you use Linux ftp command to transfer only changed files?
[21:12] <LucaPuca> Hi
[21:12] <pradeep_> BluPhenix316, is your vmware licensed?
[21:12] <coin3d> hi there. when setting up a software raid 1, should i create two partitions with the full disk size first, or directly use /dev/sda and /dev/sdb for that raid array?
[21:12] <cherr> anyone know a repository with some useful third party software packages for a newly installed ubuntu system?
[21:12] <BluPhenix316> pradeep_: I don't have vmware installed
[21:12] <chaingun> BluPhenix316: try removing that module from the area where update-initramfs is pulling them from
[21:12] <BluPhenix316> i'm running this natively
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> Snicers-Work2  you can with rsync -vv -- it's called 'incremental'
[21:13] <pradeep_> okAY
[21:13] <Snicers-Work2> I am needing to push code to a windows server from linux, but I want to do it without pushing unchanged files, rsync is out.
[21:13] <pradeep_> BluPhenix316, just a honest question
[21:13] <runixo> heyas. In Quental, I would like dnsmasq to use the DNSs provided by the ISP as upstream servers, how can I do this?
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> Snicers-Work2  ok
[21:14] <mens> Are working FN + F4 command in ubuntu 10.04? (switch monitor)?
[21:14] <mens> What is the name of command in keyboard shortcuts?
[21:15] <BluPhenix316> hmm i removed it now it is hanging at adding module sis.ko
[21:15] <chaingun> did you rebuild your kernel?
[21:15] <BluPhenix316> no
[21:15] <chaingun> are you sure it is actually hanging?
[21:15] <chaingun> and not just taking a while?
[21:15] <jkbbwr> how can I let a normal user listen to port 80
[21:15] <BluPhenix316> well the first time, i let it sit there for a hour and it didn't get anywhere
[21:16] <chaingun> ok something is definitely up then
[21:16] <BluPhenix316> well i know what causes the problem sort of
[21:16] <BluPhenix316> i'm using ubuntu 12.10 and it happens when i install kubuntu-desktop
[21:16] <Honvai> http://www.linuxassist.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=23
[21:16] <cje2> hi,
[21:17] <BluPhenix316> i've reinstalled ubuntu 12.10 and it happens again if i install kubuntu-desktop
[21:17] <BluPhenix316> guess i'm not suppose to mix them eh?
[21:17] <pradeep_> BluPhenix316, using kubuntu 12.04
[21:17] <pradeep_> so use to gnome
[21:17] <mens> HELP, FN + F4 question!
[21:18] <cje2> Hi, you can get Ubuntu necklaces and earrings here for Christmas if you like.  I do not benefit from this program.  Proceeds go to putting Ubuntu computers in needy public schools:  http://blog.partimus.org/?p=414
[21:18] <BluPhenix316> pradeep_: well i'me experimenting with what DE I like the best
[21:18] <pradeep_> sorry what is DE
[21:18] <pradeep_> ?
[21:18] <BluPhenix316> i've gotten kinda use to unity but i'm still a fan of xfce, but i haven't tried lxde or kde(last time i used KDE was back in the 90s)
[21:18] <BluPhenix316> Desktop Environment
[21:19] <BluPhenix316> well more specifically unity and gnome-shell are shells for the GNOME DE
[21:19] <mens> FN + F4 command in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:19] <cje2> BluPhenix316, we use LXDE and Unity in public schools we support with Ubuntu computers (We = Partimus.org)
[21:19] <mens> Name in keyboard shortcuts...
[21:20] <SeNo_> sorry got dc
[21:20] <chaingun> BluPhenix316: are you specifying the correct kernel version when doing update-initramfs?
[21:20] <BluPhenix316> but this initramfs problem is bugging me, usually I can narrow it down to either figure out exactly where the problem is but i'm stumped
[21:20] <BluPhenix316> chaingun: i'm just doing a sudo update-initramfs -uv
[21:21] <pradeep_> i have dropped ubuntu for linux mint
[21:21] <pradeep_> using linux mint mate
[21:22] <BluPhenix316> chaingun: i did a sudo update-initramfs -uvk 3.5.0-18 and it finished but there was some errors
[21:22] <BluPhenix316> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.5.0-18/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[21:22] <BluPhenix316> i think that is because i changed MODULES=most to MODULES=dep in initramfs.conf
[21:23] <BluPhenix316> nope changed it and same error
[21:24] <cje2> Is there anyone here in the SF Bay Area who would like to meet IRL to discuss what Partimus.org is doing with Ubuntu in public schools?
[21:25] <Pepote> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
[21:25] <Pepote> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
[21:25] <FloodBot1> Pepote: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <BluPhenix316> chaingun: i figured out how to fix the problem, just don't install kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu hehe
[21:25] <k1l> cje2: that issue woul suit better in #ubuntu-offtopic . or the locochannel from SF
[21:25] <Veryhappy> Hi guys.  There is no reason why it shouldn't work
[21:26] <alusion> What's a good platform for VOIP communication via android / PC / IOS
[21:26] <k1l> Veryhappy: which desktop are you running and why would you start compiz fusion=
[21:26] <k1l> ?
[21:26] <BluPhenix316> chaingun: well other than that problem everything works fine
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> pradeep_  Desktop Environment
[21:27] <cje2> k1l, thanks for the tip. I put it here because all we use in the public schools we support is Ubuntu.  It is quite exciting, so I thought that ppl here might be stoked to learn that Ubuntu is making it into public schools
[21:27] <BluPhenix316> ah i think i might also know what the problem is
[21:27] <pradeep_> MonkeyDust, i got that
[21:27] <BluPhenix316> all the kernel modules that are causing this problem i installed from x-edgers
[21:27] <cje2> k1l, Where is the local Ubuntu channel, do you happen to know?
[21:27] <Veryhappy> K1l I use kde and I thought that I'd have to use compiz fusion to get advanced effects like water and fire effects and the popular cube
[21:28] <k1l> Veryhappy: no, kde got own stuff for that
[21:28] <k1l> (as far as i know, im not using kde myselv)
[21:28] <BluPhenix316> kde has it's own compositing manager
[21:29] <BluPhenix316> unity, gnome-shell and I think xfce and lxde use GNOME as the backend so you can use compiz with them, but KDE is a completely different enviornment
[21:29] <Veryhappy> K1l oh, ok how do I get that? I have the proprietary driver for my graphics already installed. What to do now?
[21:30] <alusion> Is Tango available for ubuntu
[21:30] <Lachezar> Hello all... I am having trouble with Xubuntu, ssh-agent, ssh-add and pkcs11 library. That is after running 12.10. Was OK in 12.04 :(
[21:31] <SeNo_>  i tried installing ubuntu from usb but when it comes to the partition choose page it crashes without any partitions appearing, help plz
[21:32] <jCuber> SeNo_: tried installing from a live-cd?
[21:32] <BluPhenix316> hmm this is annoying, you can use a metapackage like kubuntu-desktop to install everything but it you remove kubuntu-desktop it just removes the metapackage not the packages that it installed
[21:33] <Lachezar> BluPhenix316: Doesn't autoremove remove the left-overs?
[21:33] <SeNo_> jcuber what is live cd ?
[21:33] <BluPhenix316> Lachezar: nope
[21:34] <Lachezar> BluPhenix316: Then I suppose you could dig the /var/log/apt/history to take the package names.
[21:34] <BluPhenix316> Lachezar: aye, I was just think if you can install it one way you could remove it the same way to save myself some time
[21:35] <jCuber> !livecd | SeNo_
[21:35] <gustav__> Is Ubuntu closing down if you don't get donations?
[21:36] <jCuber> SeNo_: You can burn the ubuntu disk image (.ISO) file on a DVD, then works the same as a Live-USB
[21:36] <gaussblurinc_> hello! how to know a size of application (MS Office 2010 that installing under wine)?
[21:36] <jCuber> gaussblurinc_: You want to know the size before or after installing?
[21:37] <kbrosnan> gaussblurinc_: use the disk analisys tool after installing?
[21:37] <gaussblurinc_> jCuber: both, if this is possible
[21:37] <Lachezar> gaussblurinc_: Check the ~/.wine
[21:37] <gaussblurinc_> Lachezar: i want to know a size of application before installation
[21:37] <jCuber> gaussblurinc_: You should find the info from the developer's website
[21:38] <e66> I dont see any popup-menu on my ubuntu 12.04 Classic Ubuntu Desktop
[21:38] <e66> Everytime I click any type of menu it just dont show it. Right click, appplication menu etc. Just any type of menu
[21:38] <gaussblurinc_> jCuber: developers of MSOffice or wine'developers?
[21:39] <Lachezar> gaussblurinc_: *shrug* Under Windows/Wine: tough luck.
[21:39] <guruguy> ok i'm at wits end - TRYING to install 12.10 / 4 hdd / raid 10;  that failed miserably; i've rm'd sda from the raid and 0-superblock, trying to install on it; but partman continues to hang @50%. I've chk'd log, seen LOTS of hits about bugs, and NO solutions....
[21:40] <guruguy> i would be happy to deal with this manually - have already partitioned sda, and mkfs; but installer complains disk not part'd yet
[21:41] <Lachezar> gaussblurinc_: You can find out how much space it wasted by checking the size of the .wine directory before and after the installation, but other than that it's a guess-work.
[21:41] <ceran> gaussblurinc_, doesn't the office installer tell you how much space it's going to need when you're selecting what to install (in custom install)?
[21:41] <jCuber> gaussblurinc_: Under whoever made Office 2010 (Microsoft). Their website shows you need a minimum of 3GB
[21:42] <jCuber> gaussblurinc_: Be sure to check out the open-source alternative, OpenOffice
[21:42] <shwaiil> Q: When not using the terminal but the graphic interface, how can I have admin permissions sudo ? I want to move a folder to /opt/ thanks!
[21:43] <gaussblurinc_> jCuber: yeah, my neighbour said me about it now, i will install it
[21:43] <jCuber> shwaiil: open the file manager with sudo
[21:43] <_axel_> shwaiil, use "gksudo nautilus"
[21:44] <shwaiil> jCuber: _axel_ thanks a lot!
[21:44] <jCuber> shwaiil: No problem.
[21:45] <shwaiil> Installing programs in /opt/ is that ok ? I feel like I'm always forgetting where to find them installing it here
[21:45] <mike_papa> I'm trying to access folder shared from Ubuntu with W7. I've managed to make it visible for windows, but whatever I do with samba users it says I have no permission. It never asks for password, or anything. Any ideas how to fix it?
[21:45] <jCuber> shwaiil: Aren't the executables in /usr/bin/ ?
[21:46] <shwaiil> jCuber: I've installed "Blender" under /opt/ just moved the folder and then I then think I did a simlink there in /usr/bin/
[21:46] <shwaiil> then had to create a file to place a shortcut in the left sidebar in this new ubuntu
[21:46] <shwaiil> so complicated :P
[21:46] <alof> mike_papa, is ubuntu on a vm or a separate computer?
[21:46] <shwaiil> jCuber:  I just wonder if I did the right think
[21:46] <blackness> heres a weird thing, ubuntu 12.10. random my sound will fade from LSpeaker, to Rspeaker, then equal out. any ideas?
[21:46] <mike_papa> alof: seperate.
[21:46] <blackness> s/random/randomly
[21:47] <mike_papa> alof: Ubuntu asks me for password when I try to access it, and... none of paswords I've entered works... strange.
[21:47] <jCuber>  shwaiil Uhh I don't really pay attention to such things myself :D I just take the easiest way to make it work
[21:47] <_axel_> shwaiil, why not installing blender from sofware center?
[21:47] <urlwolf>  is there any way to get 'inertia scrolling' (like we have for touchpads) on a mouse wheel?
[21:48] <shwaiil> jCuber:  yeah I used to do the same thing, but got this new computer with SSD and just wanted to make thinks correctly, so I could have readonly stuff in the right place
[21:48] <theslow2> guruguy: did someone help you out, or are you still waiting?
[21:48] <shwaiil> _axel_: oh yeah because the latest version wasn't available there :X
[21:48] <guruguy> still waiting
[21:48] <ceran> shwaiil, that's the right place for external software if you want to follow standards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard)
[21:48] <shwaiil> _axel_:  it's behind some versions :P
[21:48] <mike_papa> alow: is there any way to get rid of authorization at all? I don't need it.
[21:48] <shwaiil> ceran: thanks! Isn't there a fast or easy way to put shortcuts in the sidebar ?
[21:49] <shwaiil> don't understand why I had to create a file to create a shortcut..why not just drag and drop, strange
[21:49] <theslow2> guruguy: when you did it manually, what partition type did you use?
[21:49] <alof> mike_papa, samba uses specific user groups and user names to access/share files. i'm shooting in the dark here but guessing that your windows username doesn't have sufficient permissions w/i samba to access the files
[21:49] <ceran> shwaiil, sorry, can't comment, I usually run commands by bringing up the Run dialog and typing the command name; my default desktop is basically empty
[21:50] <shwaiil> ceran: ok tks
[21:50] <guruguy> am using gpt part table, with normal linux part's using ext2 and ext3
[21:50] <guruguy> sorry - how do you reply?
[21:50] <alof> mike_papa, have you read this: http://milindpadalkar.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/sharing-folders-using-samba/
[21:50] <shwaiil> Q: Anyone know how to easily place Shortcuts into the left sidebar ? Without having to create the "file" to show stuff there (can't remember the name)
[21:50] <shwaiil> Thanks!
[21:51] <mike_papa> alof: no... I haven't read this one. thanks. I'll try it.
[21:52] <theslow2> the parition table is fine to use as gpt, but the parition TYPE must be set to Linux RAID
[21:52] <theslow2> what paritioner are you using?
[21:52] <jCuber> urlwolf: I think if somebody made that kind of software, you'd have a lot if delay because the software would need to smoothen the hardware's input. Logitech used to make mouses which had hardware-based kinetic scrolling
[21:53] <guruguy> sorry - i did have part type as raid - when i tried raid 10 install - such a fail.... so i dropped sda from raid and reset part's to nbormal linux
[21:54] <jCuber> guruguy: You might want to try the Ubuntu Forums if you can't get an answer here
[21:54] <guruguy> i'm using parted - only thing the install provides me that understands gpt - hate it
[21:54] <Jordan_U> guruguy: Do you have the individual drives partitioned?
[21:55] <guruguy> i do have ind. drive partitioned - sda is now a "stand alone" drive; sd[b-d] are still in raid 10
[21:55] <auronandace> !raid
[21:55] <cje2> Does anyone know of a Ubuntu list for the SF Bay Area?
[21:56] <mike_papa> ok, and how can I delete user that is not logged in, and userdel says he is?
[21:56] <jCuber> !tab | guruguy
[21:56] <jCuber> :)
[21:56] <cje2> Oops, what I meant was does anyone know of an IRC channel for Ubuntu for the San Francisco Bay Area?
[21:56] <Jordan_U> guruguy: Your last comment seems contradictory. If you have the individual drives partitioned, then it should be "sda1" and "sdb1" which are RAID members, not "sda" and "sdb" (it may sound like an esoteric distinction, but it's important).
[21:56] <guruguy> TAB! TYVM!! :)
[21:58] <jCuber> cje2: Isn't the global one enough? If we have less than 2k users here, I don't think we need channels for individual cities :D
[21:58] <Jordan_U> !pm guruguy
[21:58] <Jordan_U> !pm | guruguy
[21:59] <Jordan_U> guruguy: To put it another way, are your RAID members whole drives or partitions?
[22:00] <alusion> I'm trying to install a .run file and whenever I try to enter chmod +x file.run
[22:00] <guruguy> ok - the raid install failed in more ways than i want to try explain :-)   so i've removed sda from raid - re-partitioned w/ 0x83 part's; and attempting standalone install on only sda
[22:00] <alusion> It tells me it cannot access, no such file or directory exists
[22:00] <guruguy> sd[b-d] remain in raid 10 array
[22:01] <deadmund> alusion: You're making a typo (probably you're in the wrong dir)
[22:01] <Xaratas> blsecres: found the solution. after the last server reinstall there was no german locale, so the iconv transliterate could only use the english locale which leads to a instead of ae
[22:01] <alusion> I am in the right directory I am sure  >_< deadmund
[22:01] <alusion> OH
[22:01] <alusion> I see now.
[22:01] <guruguy> my intent is to install on only sda as a "normal" install; and then i will <u> manually </u> move entire installation to raid, and re-add sda afterward
[22:01] <alusion> I didn't finish typing it
[22:02] <Jordan_U> guruguy: You aren't answering my question.
[22:02] <alusion> I had an older version and I forgot to enter the last of the version # haha
[22:02] <Guest13329> hello. I have a question that is completely not relevant to linux/ubuntu. can I ask?
[22:02] <guruguy> sorry - to complete that thouigyht - raid members are partitions
[22:02] <deadmund> Guest13329: not in here
[22:03] <jCuber> !ot
[22:03] <Guest13329> where can I?
[22:03] <deadmund> Guest13329: What's the question about?
[22:03] <Guest13329> it's a bit complicated
[22:03] <guruguy> so i have multiple md's (md[1-6] )
[22:03] <Guest13329> long story short I need to download a file
[22:03] <Guest13329> but the site will only let users of a russian ISP download
[22:03] <urlwolf> jCuber: you mean that scrollwheel without stops?
[22:03] <Guest13329> I need someone with said isp to download the file for me
[22:03] <Guest13329> heh
[22:03] <FloodBot1> Guest13329: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <Guest13329> ops, sorry, I type too fast
[22:03] <guruguy> and sda matches that exact layout - sda[1-6]
[22:03] <deadmund> Guest13329: maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:04] <Guest13329> thank you
[22:04] <jCuber> Guest13329: Proxy?
[22:04] <urlwolf> there's an autohotkey script (windows) that implements this.
[22:04] <Guest13329> it requires a specific ISP, do proxies cover that?
[22:04] <dsenator> hey all
[22:04] <alusion> Anyone familiar with teamspeak here?
[22:04] <jCuber> urlwolf: What type of script?
[22:04] <guruguy> i know teamspeak
[22:04] <urlwolf> just measure the number of 'clicks' per second, if faster, then increase the nb of lines scrolled
[22:05] <graft> anyone know a good cli utility for browsing an xml document?
[22:05] <jCuber> urlwolf: Tried searching online for "linux equivelant to (script or program herr)"?
[22:05] <veryhappy> graft: links or lynx?
[22:06] <veryhappy> graft: perhaps it might also w3m do the job
[22:06] <dsenator> help with bluetooth adapter not present
[22:06] <dsenator> ubuntu 12.10
[22:06] <urlwolf> jCuber: it was in an obscure post on a forum
[22:06] <urlwolf> no name
[22:06] <jCuber> !bt
[22:06] <dsenator> quantal, bluetooth adapter not present... help pls
[22:07] <jCuber> !bluetooth | dsenator
[22:07] <veryhappy> see you guys
[22:07] <theslow2> alusion: yes familiar with TS, what you need?
[22:07] <dsenator> jCuber, ubottu  thanks let me check it out... it was there but it broke at some point I guess
[22:08] <FireStorms> Hi I was updating from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12 and my update got interrupted. Ubuntu will now not boot up. I inserted the Live CD and booted, what I'm using now. Can I repair my partion this way?
[22:08] <theslow2> graft: just browsing, try lynx
[22:08] <alusion> I don't know how to start it
[22:08] <alusion> theslow2, ubuntu 12.04, I just installed it
[22:08] <ddash> Hi all, I am having some upgrading issues (from 12.04 to 12.10). Is this a good place to ask?
[22:09] <ddash> I am unable to do release upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 (even after ticking the "For any new version" option in the synaptic package manager). When I run do-release-upgrade, it says "No new release found". Any suggestions?
[22:09] <FireStorms> I've tried sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo chroot /mnt apt-get update; apt-get upgrade with no luck
[22:09] <theslow2> alusion: the client or server, and how did you install TS?
[22:09] <alusion> theslow2, the client -- I installed it via the main linux download, TeamSpeak3-Client-Linux_amd64.run
[22:10] <dsenator> ubottu, the page only has documentation tof 10.04 and 11.04 not 12.10
[22:10] <binary_glitch> sorry mormans came to talk to me... SeNO_ did you get your issue resolved?
[22:10] <Daxter> nyone know why moving a 10.04 install to a new computer causes virtualbox VMs (and minecraft too) to fail to start?
[22:10] <benedict> hi, my wireless suddenly stops working and i can only use it again after reboot. any ideas?
[22:10] <ikonia> Daxter: how did you move it ?
[22:10] <Daxter> benedict: what ubuntu version, what adapter, are you using linux drivers for adapter
[22:11] <lelouch> Wanna Delete some Windows Viruses from My Data Driver Some One Can drop me a Name of AV Works in Ubuntu well
[22:11] <Daxter> ikonia: moved physical HDD containing install and its swap partition
[22:11] <ikonia> lelouch: your "data driver" ?
[22:11] <deadmund> lelouch: I think the only one is clamav
[22:11] <alusion> theslow2, should I get version 2 or version 3?
[22:11] <Daxter> lelouch: ClamAV
[22:11] <ikonia> Daxter: what happens when you try to start them ?
[22:11] <ikonia> deadmund: is the hardware the same ?
[22:11] <theslow2> alusion: version 3
[22:11] <lelouch> ikonia: hard drive  i mean
[22:11] <ikonia> Daxter: is the hardware the same ?
[22:11] <benedict> Daxter: ubuntu 12.04, Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 - how do i find out drivers?
[22:11] <ddash> any ideas on why do-release-upgrade is not showing any new releases (12.04 to 12.10)?
[22:12] <ikonia> lelouch: just boot windows and run a virus scan
[22:12] <Daxter> ikonia: minecraft blackscreens, virtualbox vms is stuck at 0% starting
[22:12] <theslow2> alusion: if you open a terminal/shell and navigate to the TS folder, there should be some files there ending in .sh
[22:12] <deadmund> ikonia: Sorry?
[22:12] <Daxter> ddash: LTS release are by default set to upgrade to LTS only. check out software sources
[22:12] <ikonia> Daxter: different video card ?
[22:12] <ikonia> deadmund: sorry, waasn't meant for you
[22:12] <lelouch> well thanks all deadmund Daxter ikonia
[22:12] <deadmund> :P
[22:12] <ddash> Daxter: I have set that option already in the synaptic package manager
[22:12] <ikonia> Daxter: no they are not, LTS releases can upgrade to non-LTS releases just fine
[22:12] <deadmund> benedict: Need help?
[22:13] <benedict> deadmund: yes - that's why i am here :)
[22:13] <guruguy> ok - let me try a different approach - partman hangs at 50% - there appear to be complaints and bug reports all over the place about this. i've seen no solutions. does anyone know how to fix the hanging partman (on install) issue?
[22:13] <ddash> Daxter: I have set it to "For any new version"
[22:13] <theslow2> alusion: give me 1 minute and my download will be complete. (then i'll be able to tell you exactly how to start it)
[22:13] <deadmund> benedict: I am really good with these drivers.  PM me?
[22:13] <Daxter> ikonia: different everything. old cpu: AMD athlon 64 new cpu: Intel core i5-750 old gfx: nvidia geforce gt240, new: geforce gtx280
[22:13] <ddash> Daxter: even then it is not working, any ideas? Thanks for your reply
[22:13] <mike_papa> alof: it helped. thanks. does user's group need to be in valid users for every user? user name isn't enough?
[22:13] <b0w> hello! im having problems with the new lens thing on ubuntu 12.10, i installed some of them but not seem to work when i type something on the unity thing
[22:13] <ikonia> Daxter: , so that's something I'd look at resolving
[22:14] <xangua> b0w: did you restart your session¿
[22:14] <homecable> whats the most used desktop ?
[22:14] <alusion> theslow2, thanks, I found the .sh and started it. how can I create a hardlink to the .sh to the desktop?
[22:14] <b0w> xangua, yeah like 3 times now
[22:14] <Daxter> ikonia: for the lts release software sources isnt set to show upgrade to non-lts releass, at least in 10.04
[22:14] <alusion> via command link of course
[22:14] <homecable> xubuntu or what
[22:14] <ikonia> Daxter: yes, so you can get set it to what you want
[22:14] <ikonia> Daxter: that does'nt mean it's not designed to be upgraded to non-lts releases.
[22:14] <lelouch> and How can i delete Ubuntu Or From my laptop i used Gparted to delete partition but got Grub rescue problem
[22:14] <jCuber> homecable: Ubuntu I guess?
[22:15] <ddash> Daxter, ikonia: yes, Daxter is right, it was set to only lts releases in 12.04
[22:15] <b0w> xangua, installed the wikipedia lens and when i tipe something it shows nothing, just the amazon lens its working
[22:15] <zvacet> homecable: depends what you like it is your choise  I use cinnamon
[22:15] <ikonia> ddash: yes, and you can set it to what you want
[22:15] <ddash> Daxter, ikonia: for some reason for me even if I set it to non-lts versions, I cannot do a release upgrade
[22:15] <ikonia> ddash: please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a"
[22:16] <lelouch>  How can i delete Ubuntu Or From my laptop i used Gparted to delete partition but got Grub rescue problem
[22:16] <ikonia> lsb-release -a sorry
[22:16] <theslow2> alusion: in a terminal run ln ~/Download/Teamspeak/file.sh ~/Desktop
[22:16] <ikonia> lelouch: you need to put a new boot loader on the machine
[22:16] <LifeIsGood169> Hello everyone, I have a fairly specific question regarding LVM2 on Ubuntu Server 12.04. I would like to send a picture of my HDD partition list, so I can set one up without erasing data. Thank you.
[22:16] <dsenator> how do I enable bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 12.10
[22:16] <ddash> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/3NDwhDbG
[22:17] <dsenator> how do I enable bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 12.1
[22:17] <Daxter> anyways what do you mean by something to resolve? only reason why new machine is running this install is due to the old computer dying.
[22:17] <dsenator> how do I enable bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 12.10, say not present
[22:17] <dsenator> how do I enable bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 12.10, say not present
[22:17] <FireStorms> My system won't boot because of an "Upgrade" failure. Can anyone help? I'm booted via Live CD of 10.04. Here's some steps straight from the Ubuntu Help Guide I've taken http://pastebin.com/3dMcChd5 what are these errors?
[22:17] <zvacet> lelouch : do you have other os on your laptop
[22:17] <Daxter> !repeat | dsenator
[22:17] <ikonia> Daxter: so your hardware has changed, there will be modules that will need to be loaded and old ones stopped, especially around the video card
[22:17] <xangua> b0w: doesn't show an icon for it in the dash¿
[22:18] <lelouch> zvacet: Windows
[22:18] <b0w> xangua, no i dont see it, should i got it? i installed the lens from terminal
[22:18] <xangua> b0w: is this what you are talking about¿ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/how-to-add-a-wikipedia-lens-to-unity-for-faster-fact-finding
[22:18] <Daxter> ikonia: reinstall graphics drivers? its the same family of gfx cards tho
[22:18] <FireStorms> anyone?
[22:18] <lelouch> ikonia: already used a live cd to delete partition  with gparted
[22:19] <ikonia> lelouch: that's not what I said
[22:19] <Daxter> FireStorms: what were you upgrading from and to, and when/where did it fail?
[22:19] <ikonia> Daxter: also look at the virtualisation modules,
[22:19] <ddash> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/3NDwhDbG
[22:19] <Daxter> ikonia: what I dont get is ive reinstalled virtualsbox a few times now
[22:19] <ikonia> Daxter: i didn't say reinstall
[22:19] <Daxter> i would think that would reset the modules
[22:19] <zvacet> lelouch: can you boot in it?
[22:20] <b0w> xangua, yes that one
[22:20] <Daxter> have to check that out
[22:20] <ikonia> ddash: and what happens when you follow the upgrade process
[22:20] <FireStorms> Daxter: from 10.04 to LTS 12.??. The failure occured 2/3 through the instillation of the upgrades. Since my syetm won't boot.
[22:20] <zvacet> FireStorms: try sudo apt-get -f install
[22:21] <lelouch> ikonia: so explain
[22:21] <ikonia> lelouch: you need to put a new boot loader on the master boot record as you've deleted the partition that grub needed to work
[22:21] <ikonia> lelouch: join ##windows and ask them how to put your windows MBR back
[22:21] <lelouch> zvacet: i reinstall ubuntu and i can boot in it now but i dont know how to delete it
[22:21] <b0w> xangua, well actually i swa it here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available
[22:21] <xangua> b0w: well then you should see an icon for wkipedia in the dash like the image shows
[22:22] <ddash> ikonia: when I run do-release-upgrade, it says "No new release found"
[22:22] <chris_> I desperately need help!  I get the same problem with ALL of them. I keep loosing internet after being on it for a while and I cant get it back. im back on ubuntu and i got it back by connecting to another local isp. I know soon i'll loose this connection. I don't want to keep hoping from one connection to another to get internet.
[22:22] <ddash> ikonia: Do I have to manually add the quantal repositories before doing a do-release-upgrade?
[22:22] <lelouch> ikonia: already reinstall ubuntu but i just wanna know how to delete it Just in Case
[22:22] <guruguy> is this a community only channel, or does ubuntu troll here?
[22:22] <zvacet> lelouch: read http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html#MbrFix.exe after that you can remove ubuntu
[22:22] <ikonia> guruguy: it's an ubuntu support channel
[22:23] <ikonia> lelouch: no you know
[22:23] <ikonia> "now"
[22:23] <guruguy> ikonia: ok tx!
[22:23] <chris_> i don't know why i get connection for a few hours then loose internet connection
[22:23] <b0w> xangua, yeah, not working at all, i dont know whats going on... just installed 3 of those lens but no one works, just the preinstalled one for amazon
[22:23] <chris_> please help me.
[22:23] <jCuber> chris_: What kind of network adapter do you have?
[22:24] <chris_> i'm not sure how to find out. im on a HP g60 notebook
[22:24] <xangua> b0w: no idea really, i use the same ppa but only installed the the pirate bay lens
[22:24] <tinkster> Can I somehow install 10.04 using a newer kernel?  I need to run a cluster of 2 servers, the server product is tied to 10.04.  But 10.04 won't install on one piece of hardware (12.04 would).
[22:25] <mrdavid> chris_: you can run lspci
[22:25] <maslo> Hi guys, I have a virtual private server that I'm using as a web hosting, I'd like to install a mail server but don't really know which one to take or how to ;x, I'd like one that can do simple redirects like this: (if you get<EMAIL_ADDRESS>send it ot<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and possibly will use some piping in the future to a php script but that's not important right now
[22:25] <b0w> xangua, its there any activate deactivate lens thing?
[22:25] <chris_> jCuber i'm not sure how to find out. I just came from windows last week.
[22:25] <chris_> lspci
[22:25] <bekks> tinkster: Which cluster software do you use?
[22:25] <chris_> sudo lspci
[22:25] <chris_> how do i run that?
[22:25] <FireStorms> zvacet: I tried sudo apt-get -f install but it did not work. This is what I got http://pastebin.com/8emJDELh
[22:25] <Daxter> chris_: Ctrl+Alt+T
[22:25] <L3top> chris_: lspci | grep -Ei '(wlan|wireless|802)
[22:25] <xangua> b0w: no that i know
[22:25] <Daxter> opens terminal
[22:25] <jCuber> !cli | chris_
[22:25] <Daxter> then paste the code others have been tellnig you to run
[22:25] <tinkster> bekks, it's not a cluster software as such ... we use drdb for a zimbra set-up, with one being a cold standby ... however, one of the old machines is hopelessly underspeced.
[22:25] <b0w> xangua, any ideas?
[22:25] <chris_> lspci
[22:26] <tinkster> The replacements machine is too recent to install 10.04 of CD
[22:26] <Daxter> oh cli factiod? nic3e
[22:26] <xangua> b0w: contact the ppa maintainer
[22:26] <bekks> tinkster: drbd has nothing to do with clustering at all :)
[22:26] <tinkster> I know
[22:26] <chris_> I desperately need help!  I get the same problem with ALL of them. I keep loosing internet after being on it for a while and I cant get it back. im back on ubuntu and i got it back by connecting to another local isp. I know soon i'll loose this connection. I don't want to keep hoping from one connection to another to get internet.
[22:26] <chris_> oops sorry
[22:26] <chris_> how do i paste? lol
[22:27] <jCuber> chris_: Cr
[22:27] <tinkster> Back to the question of using a more recent kernel during install ? :)
[22:27] <L3top> chris_: ctrl shift v
[22:27] <auronandace> !paste | chris_
[22:27] <chris_> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[22:27] <chris_> did you get that?
[22:27] <ikonia> tinkster: not going to happen
[22:27] <chris_> looks like atheros communications inc ar9285
[22:28] <L3top> yes chris_.
[22:28] <chris_> I own a HP G60 notebook
[22:28] <tinkster> ikonia, bother :) ... i was afraid that was going to be the response.
[22:28] <b0w> xangua, do you know how to get the alt+f2 command execution function? on ubuntu 12.10 it doesnt seem to work
[22:28] <zvacet> FireStorms: something is not right with your source list that is all I can tell sorry
[22:29] <pradeep_> chris_, what is te problem?
[22:29] <FireStorms> zvacet: thanks for your help it almost worked
[22:30] <b0w> anyone here knows how to get lens working on an ubuntu 12.10 64 bits pc?
[22:30] <ikonia> b0w: it works and is insalled by default
[22:30] <jCuber> pradeep_: chris_: his network adapter goes offline/stops working after a few hours of browsing
[22:30] <zvacet> FireStorms : try with sudo apt-get update to be sure everything is O.K. with source list
[22:30] <pradeep_> lspci
[22:30] <benedict> back
[22:31] <L3top> chris_: this doesn't have anything to do with the OS it doesn't look like... but the adapter itself most likely. Does this hardware work on ANY operating system?
[22:31] <chris_> windows
[22:31] <jCuber> pradeep_: Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[22:31] <chris_> NEVER a problem on windows
[22:31] <chris_> but every distro of linux it's doing the same thing
[22:31] <bdeluca> Im using the nvidia driver, but need to specify some thing in the xorg file, but they dont appear to exist any more
[22:31] <chris_> so i know it's not just the specific distro
[22:31] <FireStorms> zvacet: I try but I get a lot of: "W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)"
[22:31] <Kart> chris_: any power management or battery management software ?
[22:32] <jCuber> chris_: You sure you're not just accidentally hitting the wifi switch?
[22:32] <L3top> chris_: on the same hardware, on the same network, it never drops... but on all linux distro's it does?
[22:32] <benedict> deadmund: back
[22:32] <chris_> I don't have a wifi switch
[22:32] <Daxter> chris_: have you tried blackisting the linux driver and using ndiswrapper for the adapter driver?
[22:32] <chris_> (looking), no no buttons or anything. just the one way up on my keyboard, but that's always blue
[22:32] <b0w> ikonia, i got some problems getting some new lens to work, installed the wiki lens and i dont figure out how to use it, when i type somehting nothing shows
[22:32] <chris_> yes l3top that's right
[22:32] <chris_> no, Daxter i havent. how would i do that?
[22:32] <zvacet> FireStorms: change server to main maybe that help
[22:33] <bdeluca> has the xorg.conf gone away forever?
[22:33] <magma> hi. What's the best gmail notifier that has integration with unity?
[22:33] <FireStorms> zvacet: thanks again I will try now :)
[22:33] <chris_> perhaps it's jumping drivers for what ever reason.
[22:33] <magma> gm-notify doesn't work anymore
[22:33] <moonvoniron> re, on Configuration de ttf-mscorefonts-installer , the 'ok' button is locked,please help !
[22:33] <Daxter> !blacklist | chris_
[22:34] <Daxter> !ndiswrapper | chris_
[22:34] <L3top> chris_: I find no bugs, or issues with that hw on linux. What I would do, if I were you, is create a new dmesg/syslog log and recreate the problem, then look over those logs.
[22:34] <k1l> bdeluca: its not needed because the automatism is doing a good job. but if you need it you can make a xorg.conf
[22:34] <xangua> mmm too many mentions of ndiswrapper lately
[22:34] <Daxter> lol yeah
[22:34] <ddash> ikonia: do-release-upgrade -d works!!!! Mmike@xubuntu irc helped
[22:35] <ikonia> ddash: that's bad
[22:35] <chris_> where is the error log file?
[22:35] <ikonia> ddash: you should not use -d
[22:35] <zvacet> moonvoniron: did you tried with arrow keys
[22:35] <xangua> it's sad makers are again with 'do not make/release drivers for linux'
[22:35] <k1l> ddash: 12.04 to 12.10?
[22:35] <ikonia> ddash: that will upgrade it to the instable platform
[22:35] <chris_> daxter what is the command for the blacklist?
[22:35] <chris_> !blacklist
[22:36] <jCuber> chris_: Alt+F2 then "sudo gedit" and open the file in the msg ubottu sent you
[22:36] <zvacet> chris_ : gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:37] <Daxter> blacklisting your atheros driver will render all internet unusable, unless you have a replacement driver (ndiswrapper?) or un blacklist driver
[22:37] <zvacet> chris_ :put name of module you want to lacklist at the end of file
[22:37] <chris_> Excelent! ok im in gedit
[22:37] <chris_> how do i know which one to blacklist?
[22:38] <zvacet> chris_: witch one you are trying to blacklist?
[22:38] <jCuber> Fellaa remember that chris_ here just installed linux for the first time some time ago
[22:38] <chris_> Im very very new to this :)
[22:39] <dsenator> seems no solution to bluetooth adapter not found issue
[22:39] <Daxter> ah chris_ there is a module that your adpater runs off of. bliacklsiting it preventsit from loading, so you can use a replacement driver.
[22:40] <chris_> oh i see. where do i get this replacement driver and keep it active for ever?
[22:40] <moonvoniron> zvacet no,
[22:40] <chris_> i see this blacklisted in the gedit
[22:40] <chris_> # causes no end of confusion by creating unexpected network interfaces
[22:40] <chris_> blacklist eth1394
[22:41] <smj> purging removes the left-over configuration files, right? is it possible to reset the configuration files without uninstalling the packages, after several dist-upgrades, to get a "clean" install?
[22:41] <chris_> im on wifi, so not sure if this effects anything
[22:41] <Daxter> your module wont be lsited normally in there
[22:41] <zvacet> moonvoniron: sorry no what?
[22:41] <moonvoniron> for arrow keys
[22:41] <jrib> smj: I suppose it's possible.
[22:41] <jCuber> smj: apt-get install --reinstall (package)?
[22:42] <smj> jCuber: how about all the packages?
[22:42] <chris_> where would I get this wifi module and make it my default so no others will try to take over killing my internet connection?
[22:42] <smj> and does that remove the configurations?
[22:42] <Daxter> as far as replacement driver, this is where it gets tricky. its never the same for different hardware it seems. to use another dirver youll have to google or something for it. not fun. or use ndiswrapper, which piggybacks off of the windows driver for the hardware.
[22:42] <zvacet> moonvoniron : is it just hiting enter or you have to select ok
[22:43] <chris_> ok sounds like ndiswrapper is easy. How do i launch this app?
[22:43] <ikonia> it's not easy
[22:43] <jCuber> smj: So you want a completely new install, or just certain packages?
[22:43] <smj> completely new install
[22:43] <Daxter> !ndiswrapper | chris_
[22:44] <jCuber> smj: Why not just reinstall via a Live-DVD/USB?
[22:44] <chris_> !ndiswrapper
[22:44] <moonvoniron> arrow keys doesn't works
[22:44] <smj> jCuber: I don't have an USB stick or empty discs
[22:45] <chris_> chris@chris-HP-G60-Notebook-PC:~$ ndiswrapper
[22:45] <chris_> The program 'ndiswrapper' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[22:45] <chris_> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[22:45] <chris_> it's not installed.
[22:45] <FloodBot1> chris_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:45] <jCuber> smj: Then it's a bit hard to reinstall
[22:45] <Daxter> duh..you have to install ndiswrapper
[22:46] <chris_> ndiswrapper is not installed it sais
[22:46] <Daxter> you have to install ndiswrapper
[22:46] <Daxter> in order to sue it
[22:46] <Daxter> use*
[22:46] <jCuber> smj, maybe ask your friends to borrow an USB disc or buy some DVDs from a store (probably 0,50 - 2€ per disc)
[22:46] <chris_> ok installing it now
[22:46] <chris_>  i did the command sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[22:47] <POVaddct> is ubuntu 12.10 still using upstart as init process?
[22:47] <jCuber> smj: Haa I meant usb-drive, not disc
[22:47] <jrib> POVaddct: yes
[22:47] <POVaddct> jrib: thanks
[22:47] <Daxter> guys wasnt there a GUI for ndiswrapper?
[22:47] <blackness> !ndis
[22:47] <Seveas> !info ndisgtk
[22:48] <blackness> there it is.
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> !upstart | POVaddct
[22:48] <chris_> Im installing on the market "windows wireless drivers"
[22:48] <chris_> sorry, i mean software centre
[22:49] <POVaddct> MonkeyDust: i know upstart. just wanted to know if ubuntu is still using it or maybe switched to some other init system.
[22:49] <bekks> POVaddct: It is using it, and there is no effort in switching in near future.
[22:49] <chris_> Ok ndiswrapper is installe
[22:50] <chris_> how do i work this thing?
[22:50] <Daxter> youll need the windows driver, extracted, not a .exe
[22:50] <benedict_> deadmund: didn't work :(
[22:50] <Daxter> its been so long since i used this....
[22:50] <deadmund> benedict_: What exactly isn't working?
[22:51] <chris_> ok no problem. where does one find drivers for the hp G60 - 635DX notebook ?
[22:51] <Daxter> hp's website?
[22:51] <litropy> Hi, all - I forget the package name for the most commonly used flash plugin.
[22:51] <pradeep_> chris_, did it come with windows pre-installed
[22:51] <chris_> yes
[22:51] <Daxter> litropy: flashplugin-installer iirc
[22:51] <chris_> windows was preinsalled, but now it's gone
[22:51] <jrib> !flash | litropy
[22:51] <pradeep_> you can copy it from there
[22:51] <chris_> its a new hard drive
[22:52] <pradeep_> or rather download the network driver
[22:52] <chris_> sorry, the old hdd is gone, burned out
[22:52] <chris_> can i put in my windows 7 torrent?
[22:53] <chris_> i have a torrent windows 7, but with an invalid cd key. will ndiswrapper auto extract it from there?
[22:53] <Kart> chris_: no
[22:53] <Daxter> chris_: no
[22:53] <Daxter> download the driver from hp's website
[22:53] <chris_> ok. It's not an exe?
[22:53] <magma> hi. What's the best gmail notifier that has integration with unity?
[22:54] <pradeep_> basically what is the name of your cad
[22:54] <Daxter> it is, you will need to extract it
[22:54] <jCuber> oh my dear god..
[22:54] <pradeep_> aethros?
[22:54] <chris_> ok, i'll download that .exe wifi adapter driver from hp
[22:54] <Kart> magma: https://launchpad.net/gm-notify
[22:54] <pradeep_> good
[22:55] <magma> Kart: I liked that one, but it does not work in version 12.10 of ubuntu
[22:57] <Kart> magma: check out this thread. i guess you can in later versions as well ..
[22:57] <Kart> magma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980509
[22:58] <magma> Kart: no... The api changed
[22:58] <magma> I used it on 12.04 also
[22:59] <magma> but since I upgraded to 12.10 it stopped working
[23:00] <LifeIsGood169> I have a fairly specific question regarding LVM2 on Ubuntu Server 12.04. I would like to send a picture of my HDD partition list, so I can set one up without erasing data. Thank you.http://s216.beta.photobucket.com/user/lalabby/media/UBUNTUSERVER2-diskinfo.png.html
[23:00] <LifeIsGood169> I meant to add, I don't completely understand the current partitions.
[23:01] <ryan_C> Hi room
[23:02] <LifeIsGood169> Hi
[23:02] <Gyro54> My Thunderbird takes out all the menus and the Unity side bar. I reinstalled the Thunderbird-globalmenu but this didnt fix the problem
[23:02] <Kart> magma: when you say you updated, did you run distro upgrade command or from scratch ?!
[23:03] <Gyro54> Everything else work fine?
[23:03] <magma> Kart: distro-upgrade. And also tried reinstalling that app
[23:03] <magma> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1040259
[23:04] <blackness> heres a weird thing, ubuntu 12.10. randomly my sound will fade from LSpeaker, to Rspeaker, then equal out. any ideas?
[23:05] <Kart> magma: i am wondering if the distro upgrade is what messed up the associated libraries . i am one of those guys who really does not like distro upgrades via command line ..
[23:05] <maslo> did something stupid and messed up my mysql priviledges....is there any way to reset all the priviledge for root ? :X
[23:05] <holstein> blackness: bad hardware? i would test with a known good file and a live CD
[23:06] <blackness> ive already tested VIA LiveCD..
[23:06] <Kart> magma: was there any error messages when you re-installed it in 12.10 ?
[23:06] <blackness> and i played 3Hrs of mp3s...this didnt happen till i went 12.04->12.10
[23:07] <magma> Kart: no error messages. gm-notify does not work because of the new api https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1040259
[23:07] <walex> maslo: many web pages explain how to reset the MySQL admin password as 'root'.
[23:07] <holstein> blackness: could be that alsa version or kernel that is not supporting your hardware.. i would test with a 12.04 live CD.. and try and determine that the hardware is not bad
[23:07] <maslo> because I can't even use mysql from ssh it says Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[23:08] <magma> Kart: Do you want to port gm-notify to the new api libmessaging-menu
[23:08] <blackness> holstein, i came from 12.04 and its never acted like this til 12.10..my audio works fine when im in windows.
[23:08] <blackness> is there a newer kernel i can test? how far back can 12.10 go?
[23:08] <holstein> blackness: cool.. then i would upgrade all packages... and test in a 12.04 live CD.. and consider staying on 12.04
[23:09] <blackness> i like 12.10..but how would i downgrade?
[23:09] <holstein> blackness: you can test mainline.. or make your own... i would see what kernel and alsa version supports you in 12.04 and go from there
[23:09] <alinmear> hi all! whats the differnce between /etc/localtime and /etc/timezone! thx
[23:09] <Kart> magma: try that. the thing is i am not on my ubuntu machine .. at least for another day or two ..
[23:09] <holstein> blackness: i would reinstall 12.04
[23:09] <Kart> magma: so you would have to test that sir
[23:09] <blackness> eep! ill stay with 12.10 and wait for a LTS
[23:09] <holstein> blackness: its likely soemthing you can sort out in 12.10... 13.04 is the next lts.. reinstall takes about 8 minutes
[23:10] <jCuber> Fellas, about this chris_ 's case, is there a wlan blacklist somewhere?
[23:10] <blackness> 8 minutes? using what method?
[23:10] <holstein> blackness: any for me. on most hardware..
[23:11] <jrib> holstein: 13.04 is the next LTS?
[23:11] <holstein> blackness: i not saying you need to downgrade.. just that its an option
[23:11] <blackness> ill just stay with 12.10. where would i check alsa/kernel ?
[23:11] <holstein> jrib: you're right.. its 14.04
[23:11] <holstein> blackness: 14.04.. april of 2014
[23:11] <blackness> i cannt wait for 13.04
[23:12] <holstein> blackness: i would check in the 12.04 live CD.. see what kernel and alsa version there supports you.. there are backports and other options
[23:12] <xangua> blackness: 13.04 won't be lts if that is what you are saying
[23:12] <holstein> yeah... 14.04**.. i had a typo...
[23:13] <alinmear> hi all! whats the differnce between /etc/localtime and /etc/timezone! thx
[23:13] <blackness> so next LTS is 2yrs away? but the next rls is 13.04 ?
[23:14] <jrib> blackness: 18 months away; yes
[23:14] <holstein> blackness: there is a release every 6 months.. 12.10. 13.04... etc
[23:15] <walex> blackness: where .04 means april and .10 means october
[23:15] <holstein> blackness: the lts's are usually 2 years.. and likely will always be.. 8.04, 10.04 12.04... etc
[23:15] <blackness> oh..got'cha
[23:16] <blackness> yay installing 3.6.0..hope we get better results ;P
[23:16] <jCuber> has a .10 ever been released on the 22nd?
[23:17] <bekks> sure.
[23:17] <jrib> jCuber: I don't know, but why?
[23:17] <jCuber> jrib: My bd's then, lol
[23:17] <bekks> .10 of what? :D
[23:18] <jCuber> Ubuntu, like 12.10 or 10.10 lol
[23:18] <bekks> 12.10 is officially released, yes.
[23:18] <cje2> Does anyone know of a San Francisco Bay Area Ubuntu IRC channel?  Thx.
[23:18] <jrib> !loco | cje2
[23:18] <blackness> brb
[23:19] <OerHeks> jCuber, check these dates >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:19] <jCuber> bekks: Lol I know, just wanted to know if one would have happened to been released on my birthday in october, lol
[23:19] <cje2> ubottu, thx.
[23:20] <cje2> jrib, what is !loco | cje2.  It looks like a BASH command.  Thx.
[23:20] <bekks> cje2: 1114 001841 < ubottu> cje2: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[23:21] <bekks> Thats "loco" ;)
[23:21] <ikonia> /window 37
[23:21] <ikonia> oops
[23:21] <jrib> cje2: "!factoid" is just a trigger for our bot, ubottu, to send information.  The "| cje2" tells him to address you with the information (yes, inspired by bash's pipe syntax)
[23:22] <digitalirony> hello
[23:22] <blackness> well..got 3.6
[23:22] <bekks> blackness: 3.6 of what?
[23:22] <digitalirony> is there something wrong with ubuntu repos in 12.04?
[23:22] <blackness> 3.6.0 kernel on 12.10
[23:23] <digitalirony> all of my desktops here are 'hanging' on apt-get update
[23:23] <digitalirony> all seemingly in different places
[23:23] <blackness> digitalirony, hanging?
[23:23] <holstein> digitalirony: your internect connection is a constant as well
[23:23] <bekks> blackness: Thats no official kernel package, isnt it?
[23:23] <digitalirony> yeah, its fiber
[23:23] <svip> Anyone has experience with dependency issues, where Aptitude's solution is to remove a lot of packages?
[23:23] <digitalirony> just sitting on 100% waiting for headers
[23:24] <ikonia> svip: support for aptitude has been dropped
[23:24] <jrib> svip: what ubuntu version?
[23:24] <cje2> jrib, wow, thx for that tip.  Kinda cool.
[23:24] <svip> jrib: 11.10.
[23:24] <jrib> ubottu: tell cje2 about yourself
[23:24] <digitalirony> so, this isn't happening to anyone else?
[23:25] <jrib> svip: yes, aptitude in before 12.10 has issues with multi-arch.  It should be in the release notes (and you can find a bug in launchpad)
[23:25] <jrib> s/in//
[23:25] <ikonia> jrib: has 12.10 resolved this ?
[23:25] <ikonia> jrib: I thought it had just been removed ?
[23:25] <cje2> bekks, thx for that link
[23:25] <jrib> ikonia: yes (well at least according to the changelog and the bug report)
[23:26] <svip> ikonia: Aptitude hasn't come standard with Ubuntu for a long time.
[23:26] <Agrajag-> g'day, i'm trying to get usb redirection in qemu-kvm workgin with 12.04, however when i add a usb redirection device to a guest and try to start it, i get "USB redirection is not supported by this version of QEMU". is there something i'm missing or does the qemu-kvm that comes with 12.04 really not support this?
[23:26] <ikonia> jrib: aptitude is back in 12.10
[23:26] <ikonia> svip: I know this, I've just said it's not supported
[23:26] <LifeIsGood169> I'd like to setup a single volume group across multiple pv's.  But sdb5 is listed as swap space? & sda{1,2,3} = linux, extended, linux lvm.
[23:26] <LifeIsGood169> How do I set aside the system files & swap space on 1 hdd. & partition everything else as a volume group?  I have a picture of 'fdisk -l' if it helps.
[23:26] <acuozzo> Does anyone here use Ubuntu on an HP laptop with "Beats Audio"?
[23:26] <cje2> jrib, heh, thanks again for prompting the bot.  Rather amazing, actually.  I will put that info in my list of resources.
[23:26] <svip> ikonia: That's not the same.
[23:27] <deephect> im using chatzilla on firefox anyone know a good version for opera
[23:27] <ikonia> svip: errrr, so ubuntu would ship unsupported software with it by default.....
[23:27] <svip> ikonia: No, but just because it doesn't ship with it, doesn't make it unsupported.
[23:27] <svip> jrib: Can I make it work with apt-get then?  Or something?
[23:27] <ikonia> svip: yes, but it IS unsupported
[23:27] <ikonia> svip: hence why it was removed
[23:28] <jrib> svip: make what work?
[23:28] <deephect> no on opera
[23:28] <acuozzo> I can't get ALSA to recognize the subwoofer of my 4.1 surround sound system (yes, 4.1, not 5.1)
[23:28] <svip> jrib: The dependency issue.
[23:28] <jrib> svip: what dependency issue?
[23:29] <svip> jrib: I'm confused, should one add :i386 to its name to install a 32bit package?
[23:29] <svip> e.g. libasound2:i386
[23:30] <jrib> svip: I don't recall what version that was introduced.  At least in 12.04 it was that way
[23:30] <svip> jrib: Yeah, I've seen that as well. :/
[23:30] <jrib> svip: I suppose if that functionality is available to you in 11.10, then that's how you should do it.
[23:30] <acuozzo> Any tips?
[23:30] <jrib> svip: (you still haven't stated your actuall issue)
[23:31] <svip> jrib: My actual issue seems to be something to do with multiarchitecture.
[23:31] <jrib> svip: ok, but can you just tell us what your issue is?
[23:31] <svip>               Depends: libjpeg-turbo8:i386 but it is not installable
[23:31] <Jordan_U> svip: Do you have any problems when using apt-get rather than aptitude?
[23:31] <svip> Jordan_U: Yes, the same problems.
[23:31] <jrib> svip: you should pastebin full input and output
[23:32] <acuozzo> Using "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv7-4000" gets me 4.0 out of my 4.1 speakers
[23:32] <svip> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1356799/
[23:32] <LifeIsGood169> Is this a bad place to ask my lvm question? I honestly don't need help with lvm. I just don't understand why my second hd: sdb{1,2,5} = linux, extended, linux swap.... While my first hd: sda{1,2,5} = linux, extended, linux lvm. I just don't know what I'm allowed to format and what it means.
[23:32] <Jordan_U> svip: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install".
[23:33] <digitalirony> hrmm
[23:33] <digitalirony> its the 'extras' repo
[23:33] <digitalirony> it seems to be lagging or something
[23:33] <chris_> I just downloaded the HP60 wifi drivers. Can someone please teach me how to install them? I keep getting kicked off the internet every hour and have to connect to another wifi to get online again. I'm running out of wifi connections in my building to connect to :P
[23:33] <svip> Jordan_U: That just removed the package causing trouble for now.
[23:34] <jrib> svip: you simply don't have the requirements for that steam package available afaict
[23:34] <digitalirony> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main
[23:34] <digitalirony> ^ thats the line that causes apt-get update to hang
[23:34] <chris_> can someone help me install them please?
[23:34] <svip> Jordan_U: (So I am gonna do that for now, so I can upgrade.)
[23:34] <svip> jrib: You mean those packages are not available for 11.10?
[23:35] <blackshirt> tinah ?
[23:35] <jrib> svip: well libc6 is what I checked, and yes, you don't have libc6 that satisfies that version requirement in ubuntu 11.10
[23:35] <svip> Hmmm, sad.
[23:36] <jrib> svip: why not upgrade ubuntu?
[23:36] <ryan_C> Why stay with ubuntu 11.10
[23:36] <svip> ryan_C: For now?  To avoid Unity, but then again, I am using XFCE, so I don't think it matters.
[23:36] <jrib> svip: right, xfce is still there :)
[23:37] <ryan_C> I upgraded to 12.10 then had to downgrade to 12.04 because i keep getting error message then my pc would freezethen i would have to restart
[23:37] <svip> ryan_C: I think I am gonna stay at 12.04.
[23:37] <ryan_C> And ubuntu 12.04 works very very nice for me its fast
[23:38] <Jordan_U> svip: It's explicitly stated multiple times that the Steam Beta requires Ubuntu 12.04 or newer, it was never going to work in Ubuntu 11.10.
[23:38] <ryan_C> But i need to learn some more commands for the terminal i only know sudo apt-get install wine
[23:38] <svip> Jordan_U: Make sense.
[23:38] <ryan_C> I saw that on youtube when i was looking for commands lol
[23:38] <digitalirony> ryan_C: until you try to use the extras repository....it seems to be down
[23:39] <LovesLinux> ryan_c check box-admin.com
[23:39] <PedroP> While using 12.04 LTS is there any way to upgrade a package to its latest version, whichever the repository?
[23:39] <digitalirony> PedroP: apt-get install 'packagename'
[23:40] <PedroP> digitalirony: well, but my repositories don't have the latest package
[23:40] <digitalirony> PedroP: then you can download a .deb package of the newer version and try to do it manually, or look for 3rd party repos
[23:40] <digitalirony> however if you do it manually you will see allll kinds of dependancy issues most likely
[23:41] <OerHeks> PedroP, what package ? maybe the dependencies don't match
[23:41] <digitalirony> or may not even be able to find a .deb package, and have to compile it from source
[23:41] <PedroP> I guess the package I want is available
[23:41] <PedroP> but not on my repositories
[23:42] <PedroP> at least, it's here: https://launchpad.net/backupninja
[23:42] <digitalirony> PedroP: then you have to use other repositories, or download and install with dpkg -i
[23:42] <digitalirony> ahh, just add the launchpad.net repos if you want
[23:42] <digitalirony> make sure you read on what that entails though
[23:42] <digitalirony> the pros and cons of using a 3rd party repo
[23:42] <LovesLinux> you could compile from source as long as no dependency issues, ./configure;make;make test;make install
[23:42] <PedroP> digitalirony: ok, but will that have any impact on my other packages?
[23:42] <digitalirony> there is usually a reason its not included in the official repos
[23:43] <digitalirony> PedroP: yes, it can
[23:43] <digitalirony> PedroP: thats why I say you will want to read what implications it might have
[23:43] <PedroP> digitalirony: I'm not really sure how, to be honest
[23:43] <zykotick9> LovesLinux: a better suggestion would be to use checkinstall (see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for details)
[23:43] <LovesLinux> pedrop yes it wont update your package managers db and unless you use check install probbably wont have an uninstaller
[23:44] <digitalirony> PedroP: how to do what
[23:44] <LovesLinux> pedrop use it as a last resort
[23:44] <marcio> hey guys, i installed the steam beta and want to remove it, its not in my lubuntu software center, any idea how i can remove it? thanks
[23:44] <PedroP> I'm kind of getting confused
[23:45] <PedroP> I just wanted to install a single package from a different repo. "Raring", for example
[23:45] <digitalirony> marcio: apt-get remove packagename
[23:45] <homecable> any one have screen shots of there desktops ?
[23:45] <digitalirony> PedroP: just download the package from that website, there should be a link for a .deb file
[23:45] <dr_willis> homecable:  why does it matter?  theres web sites out with eyecandy desktop screenshits
[23:45] <LovesLinux> pedrop Im old skool linux people more familiar with Ubuntu can probably give more user friendly advice
[23:45] <digitalirony> then do 'dpkg -i package.deb'
[23:45] <homecable> i think i might convert just want to see whats out there as to what people are using as there desktop
[23:45] <PedroP> digitalirony: ok, that's an idea, thanks.
[23:46] <digitalirony> BUT
[23:46] <zykotick9> marcio: did you use a DEB to install?  if so, "dpkg -l | grep steam" to find the package name, then "sudo apt-get remove STEAMNAMEHERE"
[23:46] <digitalirony> you will probably end up chasing dependancies if you do that
[23:46] <dr_willis> homecable:  ubuntu uses Unity as the default. youtube has dozens of videos of it in use
[23:46] <marcio> digitalirony, i tried that but it didnt work
[23:46] <PedroP> digitalirony: ah...
[23:46] <marcio> zyko i did, let me try that
[23:46] <PedroP> digitalirony: i get that...
[23:46] <LovesLinux> steam beta :) beyond support if you ask me
[23:46] <PedroP> thanks
[23:46] <zykotick9> marcio: sorry, you might need to use "dpkg -l | grep -i steam"
[23:47] <homecable> i want something light abd useable for steam and videos mp3s firefox
[23:47] <digitalirony> PedroP: ok, np. Thats really the only simple way to do it without adding a 3rd party repo
[23:47] <zykotick9> !tab > marcio
[23:47] <digitalirony> homecable: try FVWM-crystal
[23:47] <dr_willis> homecable:  lubuntu is the lightest full featured desktop , then xubuntu, then its a tossup which is heaver. ;) kde, unity, gnome-shell..
[23:48] <digitalirony> homecable: or if you are technical, try awesome...but you prolly won't like it
[23:48] <digitalirony> but if you really WANT to go super light weight, get ratpoison o.0
[23:48] <digitalirony> but, you won't like that either
[23:48] <dr_willis> homecable:  if you got a system good enough to play most of the games on steam.. then the system should handle unity fine
[23:48] <gordonjcp> be careful though
[23:48] <gordonjcp> lxde isn't very fast
[23:49] <marcio> zyko it worked! thanks a lot man!
[23:49] <dr_willis> lxde seems fast at what it does here.. given how little it does. ;)
[23:49] <LovesLinux> homecable xfce or mate are the ones you want to try if you like gnome2
[23:49] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: yeah, but it's written to be small, not fast
[23:49] <digitalirony> marcio: I think FVWM-crystal will be something you would like if you try it. super fast
[23:49] <LovesLinux> tty1 suits me :)
[23:49] <dr_willis> cant say ive noticed it being slow at all.
[23:49] <digitalirony> I like awesome
[23:49] <marcio> i really love this irc, the ubuntu community and this room, you guys are always such great help
[23:49] <marcio> digitalirony, what is that?
[23:49] <dr_willis> should my menus be poping up faster or somthing. ;)
[23:49] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: if memory isn't an issue, it can be outperformed by "heavier" WMs
[23:50] <digitalirony> marcio: its a desktop system as you call it
[23:50] <digitalirony> replacement for gnome
[23:50] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I tried awesome but I couldn't get it to work at all
[23:50] <digitalirony> its super light, and has many features
[23:50] <digitalirony> yeah awesome is hard for most people to use
[23:50] <marcio> i am using lubuntu right now
[23:50] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: yeah, I don't really want "hard to use"
[23:50] <dr_willis> jwm ;) + rox filer
[23:50] <digitalirony> I use arch linux + awesome on my PC
[23:50] <digitalirony> I only use ubuntu for my 'customers' here
[23:50] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I used to use arch, but it got in my way
[23:51] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: yeah use FVWM-crystal then
[23:51] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I spent more time fixing it than actually getting work done
[23:51] <digitalirony> its easy, and light weight, its reaaaly neat
[23:51] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: gosh, fvwm, that's a blast from the past
[23:51] <LovesLinux> mate looks good ?
[23:51] <pigeonor> awesome is great, had it running on my arch laptop
[23:51] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: I don't have that issue at all
[23:51] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: no thanks, I'll stick with Unity
[23:51] <digitalirony> ewww
[23:51] <pigeonor> @digital irony, i agree with you
[23:51] <digitalirony> why waste RAM on that shit
[23:51] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: because it's fast and makes my life easier
[23:51] <gordonjcp> which is kind of the whole point of using computers
[23:52] <digitalirony> I think as my technical skill goes up, using that stuff gets in my way
[23:52] <digitalirony> I like to not have to move my hands
[23:52] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: maybe, maybe not
[23:52] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: how do you type, then?
[23:52] <jCuber> Matter of opinion
[23:52] <digitalirony> I think the linux community at large tends to agree
[23:52] <digitalirony> hehe
[23:52] <moonvoniron> in system settings>hardware>additional drivers is locked , why ?
[23:52] <digitalirony> all of the 'old skool'/programmers aren't using unity or gnome I promise
[23:53] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: I move my fingers not my hands
[23:53] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I disagree
[23:53] <jCuber> Guys
[23:53]  * kickingvegas uses Unity, happy with it.
[23:53] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: anyway, this is more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:53] <jCuber> #offtopic or PM :))
[23:53] <digitalirony> yeah
[23:53] <digitalirony> I know
[23:53] <digitalirony> im off my rant
[23:54] <moonvoniron> can someone help me ?
[23:54] <digitalirony> moonvoniron: maybe
[23:54] <marcio> anyone know if quakelive works in lubuntu? i downloaded a plug in thats needed but cant seem to install it
[23:54]  * jCuber knows you know, but someone did ask a question
[23:54] <liricmig> how?
[23:54] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: stuff like awesome where you need to edit 2000 lines of Haskell is *great* if you want to use a computer for playing with computers
[23:54] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: it's less fun if you actually want to *use* the thing as a tool
[23:54] <dr_willis> marcio:  it should work in  most any desktop
[23:54] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: awesome doesn't use haskell
[23:54] <digitalirony> thats xmonad
[23:54] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: whatever it is that it uses, to get it to not be tiny grey-on-grey text
[23:54] <StR> I can't find a way to get the a field value having the request or the form objects, anyone?
[23:54] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: ah, you're right
[23:54] <digitalirony> so stfu until you know what youa re talking about
[23:54] <cje2> moonvoniron, How can we help you
[23:55] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: anyway, it's not fun
[23:55] <LovesLinux> makes me laugh Linux has xfce gnome-shell, xfce, mate and yeah even kde m$ has explorer32.exe
[23:55] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: you dont' have to do that on awesome....
[23:55] <marcio> dr_willis, when i try it i get an .xpi plug in
[23:55] <digitalirony> at least not anymore than any other system
[23:55] <marcio> how do i install it?
[23:55] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: in order to avoid incurring the wrath of the ops, we should move this discussion to #u-ot
[23:55] <majin> any brasilian here?
[23:55] <gordonjcp> !br | majin
[23:55] <digitalirony> im done
[23:55] <digitalirony> hush
[23:56] <cje2> moonvoniron, just go ahead and ask your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will tell you.
[23:56] <majin> thanks gordonjcp im just looking for ppl to talk :)
[23:56] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: anyway, there is at least one "old school" programmer using Unity
[23:56] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I used to use my own WM, but let's be honest, there are more useful things I can do with my time
[23:56] <digitalirony> I am sure there is atleast one, exceptions prove rules
[23:56] <LovesLinux> stallman using unity?
[23:56] <LovesLinux> lol
[23:57] <digitalirony> but REAL hackers use consoles
[23:57] <jCuber> cje2: His "Additional Drivers" in the Hardware menu is locked
[23:57] <LovesLinux> +1
[23:57] <digitalirony> and use sed/ed/awk/cat
[23:57] <digitalirony> not even vim
[23:57] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: no, real hackers use the right tool for the job
[23:57] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: which isn't unity lolol
[23:57] <cje2> jCuber, Oh, I don't know anything about that.  sorry
[23:57] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: anyone who starts all that "oh I only ever use CLI" nonsense is wasting their time and yours
[23:57] <digitalirony> anyway hush, im done, im not argueing with a wall
[23:58] <k1l> !ot | digitalirony LovesLinux
[23:58] <LovesLinux> Real hackers use Linux if your a new Linux user think good of yourself you know more than that person next to you using windows!
[23:58] <gordonjcp> LovesLinux: maybe, maybe not
[23:58] <jCuber> digitalirony: Who are you to define "real hackers"? I use BackTrack's fancy GUI metasploit. Jesus christ everyone has their opinion, and you obviously need to go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:58] <gordonjcp> LovesLinux: the person using Windows might know more about Windows
[23:58] <LovesLinux> why not then gordonjcp?
[23:58] <digitalirony> jCuber: thats a script kiddie bro
[23:59] <gordonjcp> LovesLinux: I can guarantee the person sitting next to me using Windows knows a lot more about Windows than me...
[23:59] <digitalirony> again, stop asking me stuff, I will keep answering it
[23:59] <digitalirony> this is offtopic convo,