[00:03] <fobelx> hi. i want to install 32-bit SDLnet library on my 64-bit ubuntu install.
[00:04] <fobelx> what is the package name?
[00:04] <jrib> !multiarch | fobelx
[00:04] <jrib> fobelx: use multiarch (i.e. just append :i386 to the package)
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> fobelx: libsdl-net1.2:i386   appears to be the right one
[00:06] <jrib> fobelx: why do you want this package by the way?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> fobelx: sorry: there are some later versions. what version are you looking for?
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> fobelx: there's also libsdl2-net-2.0-0:i386
[00:08] <zzxc> And it works
[00:08] <zzxc> Aint exactly pretty but it does work.
[00:17] <weissbier> hi, one question, why is the net-tools package that outdated? there is "net-tools 2.10" but ubuntu ships with "net-tools 1.60"
[00:17] <zzxc> daftykins: Hey, its up and running.
[00:17] <weissbier> any specific reason, or is it because people should use iproute2?
[00:17] <zzxc> daftykins: Ain't exactly pretty but its running for the first time in a while.
[00:18] <Beldar> weissbier, You would have to ask the ubuntu developers, in gneral the release your running can be a factor.
[00:18] <weissbier> i'm using ubuntu 13.10
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> weissbier: according to the upstream source 1.6 is the latest
[00:19] <Beldar> weissbier, Is there an actual attached to this other than "the latest"?
[00:19] <Beldar> issue*
[00:19] <weissbier> nah, just the output of the newer versions is more verbose
[00:19] <Beldar> thats an opinion
[00:20] <weissbier> i was compiling http://sourceforge.net/projects/net-tools/
[00:20] <weissbier> huh
[00:21] <weissbier> thats not a bug for me, i just was curious
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> weissbier: http://sourceforge.net/projects/net-tools/files/?source=navbar  is current stable. you're probably compiling the dev build
[00:22] <weissbier> yeah, i was cloning the git
[00:22] <litropy> how can I check why a package has been held back by apt-get?
[00:22] <weissbier> any ppa with the git-build anywhere?
[00:22] <Jordan_U> weissbier: If you look at git HEAD of a project you're almost never going to be looking at a stable release.
[00:23] <weissbier> interesting that fedora uses some newer release of it
[00:24] <zykotick9> litropy: does "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" offer to install them?  regular "upgrade" can't install new packages, or removing blocking packages.
[00:24] <clynamen> I'm on ubuntu 12.04, How can I install a package that is on latest ubuntu versions without conflicting with other packages?
[00:25] <zykotick9> clynamen: you can't really.  check for a PPA for the software you're interested in updating.  good luck, going down this road - you might need it ;)
[00:25] <zykotick9> !ppa | clynamen if your not familiar
[00:25] <Ari-Yang> clynamen: you can, but could be tricky
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> clynamen: like download the .deb of the ppa of a different ubuntu version and then install them
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> clynamen: or just find a PPA....
[00:26] <litropy> zykotick9, I imagine it does. But that doesn't tell me why
[00:27] <zykotick9> litropy: don't know what to tell you...  there should be some aptitude advanced search for what you want though... i certainly don't know it ;)  good luck.
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> !dist-upgrade | litropy because there are depenency changes
[00:29] <litropy> Thanks, all
[00:29] <clynamen> I see, thanks, let's try ...
[00:29] <Quest>  ARM cortex vs     intell pentium 3 legacy.    1ghz both. which will be faster?
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Quest
[00:30] <zykotick9> Quest: didn't make it to ##hardware?
[00:48] <koodoo> anyone here good with steam on ubuntu
[00:48] <koodoo> They arent answering on the other channe
[00:49] <daftykins> ask away describing what you're doing and what's going wrong
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> koodoo: actually you were answered several times in the other channel
[00:49] <koodoo> Which one is that hitsuji?
[00:49] <koodoo> Ubuntu-steam?
[00:50] <koodoo> No one is answering there.
[00:50] <koodoo> And now it is a different question...
[00:50] <daftykins> do you want to stop spamming and ask then?
[00:50] <koodoo> Ok my problem: I open steam and play Gmod and it just closes with no error. I tried running with terminal(nothing there) .
[00:50] <koodoo> It "crashes"
[00:51] <koodoo> and it does not show anything big in terminal.
[00:51] <daftykins> force re-check the cache?
[00:51] <koodoo> daftykins: What does that mean?
[00:51] <daftykins> the game cache.
[00:51] <aaas> anyone using nfs for windows 8, can recommend a client to connect nfs on ubuntu
[00:52] <koodoo> daftykins: Will it delete anything if not, how do I do it?
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> aaas: install the Services for Unix-based  in windows
[00:53] <daftykins> koodoo: right click properties on the game in the game list, then local data tab or something like that, 'verify integrity of game cache'
[00:53] <aaas> hitsujiTMO it's no longer in win 8 for the version i have
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> aaas: ahh sorry . win 8 enterprise only :(      try https://code.google.com/p/nekodrive/
[00:55] <Klojum> Hi people, having a sudden error via GRUB2 here. FYI: laptop with 1TB HDD and triple boot: WinXP / Ubuntu 12.04 / OpenELEC Gotham. Things worked fine for a couple of weeks, now I get a "invalid magic number" when selecting OpenELEC, and it won't boot. Ubuntu still boots (as you can see). This is the partition list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6471527/ .
[00:56] <Beldar> Klojum, Have you run sudo update-grub
[00:56] <Klojum> yep... one and only thing I did sofar, but to no avail.
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> aaas: you might also want to ask in ##windows        that channel is more appropriate for that question
[00:57] <Beldar> Klojum, That has to be a gpt setup with that many partitions
[00:57] <aaas> hitsujiTMO yeah i tried...no luck yet
[00:58] <Beldar> I see no extended
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> Klojum: can you pastebin the output of: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:00] <Klojum> Sorry, my bad. It's only a 750GB  (it's late here already ;-) )
[01:00] <Klojum> Coming up..
[01:00] <Beldar> I would guess sda4 is the extended not posted
[01:00] <Klojum> hmm... no gdisk installed
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> Klojum: sudo fdisk -l
[01:01] <Klojum> Okay, here's a noob question: how come it has worked for almost a month now?
[01:02] <Klojum> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6471580/
[01:03] <Beldar> Klojum, Your problem is on a OS not really supported here try #grub maybe or their support maybe
[01:03] <[LMZ]> Beldar: Well I got video to work, but I feel there is a few other issues; SSD. Going to replace that tomorrow and see, if not going to use the normal 1TB 5400RPM drive that came with it.
[01:04] <Klojum> Already tried in #grub, but no response so far.
[01:04] <Beldar> [LMZ], Go full ssd if you can.
[01:04] <Klojum> Thanks anyway :)
[01:04] <[LMZ]> Beldar: Yeah, this laptop I am on has 200GB SSD. It's very nice!
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> Klojum: where exactly do you get the "invalid magic number"  error?
[01:05] <Beldar> [LMZ], I have a 246 gigger, very nice.
[01:05] <Beldar> 256*
[01:06] <gTupac> Can anybody help me to get the bluetooth working on my hp pavilion 15 please?
[01:06] <eminentdomain> can anyone help me figure out getting utorrent installed in ubuntu
[01:06] <Klojum> When selecting the bottom item of GRUB's menu items, being OpenELEC.  This item has been added via /etc/grub.d/40_custom.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6471601/
[01:06] <eminentdomain> i'm having issues getting the latest version of glibc
[01:06] <[LMZ]> Beldar: Nice nice, anyways I am heading out. Thanks for your help! If I get it working with the new SSD, I will let you know.
[01:07] <eminentdomain> i need to have 2.16 but i'm stuck at 2.13 and i cant figure out how to upgrade it
[01:07] <gTupac> Can anybody help me to get the bluetooth working on my hp pavilion 15 please?
[01:07] <Beldar> eminentdomain, 3rd party not really supported there are hand fulls in the ubuntu repo that are.
[01:08] <gTupac> eminentdomain: why not use transmission? :p
[01:08] <eminentdomain> gTupac i'm afraid of resetting all my rss feeds
[01:08] <eminentdomain> i have quite alot of them being exported from another utorrent install
[01:09] <Eighga> Hello, I was wondering if I could pick the rooms brain about an issue I'm having with Ubuntu. I will go into detail here and try to be a thorough as possible.
[01:09] <Eighga> My friends computer stopped working and asked if i knew of a way to get a couple files off the hard drive to fix it. I did a bit of "Googling" and came across an Ubuntu Community posting regarding Data Recovery (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery) from what I could tell, is that it's rather involved and I'm still a novice user.
[01:09] <Eighga> Something else I noticed, When i first plugged the hard drive into my computer and was running windows 8, It showed up saying it was (not that it was needing formatting but the word escapes me). So I went and installed Ubuntu on my computer and Ubuntu doesnt actually recognize the hard drive, It notices every other Hard Drive i plug into it but this one.
[01:09] <FloodBot1> Eighga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <gdos> how can i configure leafnode for a local network (or ssh tunnels)? i do not want to subscribe to the 'BIG 8' news groups...just create my own.
[01:09] <Guest32526> nick 华仔
[01:09] <spydon> Did anybody else pledge for the Linux Voice magazine? :) http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/linux-voice
[01:09] <Eighga> sorry, just learnt about flood
[01:09] <gTupac> eminentdomain, oh then, im sorry, as I'm not using utorr for ubuntu, not sure if  can help you out on this one :/
[01:09] <reisio> pledge...
[01:10] <eminentdomain> also utorrent lets me control it from my phone
[01:10] <eminentdomain> can transmission do that?
[01:10] <Beldar> Eighga, W8 is uefi and gpt partitioning, go to ##windows and ask about recovery.
[01:10] <Myrtti> spydon: why not ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:10] <jrib> eminentdomain: if the hard drive failed, just use backups
[01:10] <gTupac> hey, anybody could help me get my bluetooth on? please?
[01:10] <jrib> Eighga: if the hard drive failed, just use backups
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> Klojum: run fsck on the partition
[01:11] <Klojum> hitsujiTMO: okay... brb
[01:11] <Eighga> there are no back ups of the hard drive
[01:12] <Eighga> also it originally had a windows 7 installation on it
[01:12] <jrib> Eighga: do you get output to dmesg when you plug it in?
[01:12] <jrib> Eighga: also, tell your friend, if there are no backups, then there is no important data
[01:13] <Eighga> output to dmesg, I dont quite follow.
[01:13] <Klojum> hitsujiTMO: FYI, gdisk information.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6471621/
[01:13] <Eighga> Well, my friend would do backups but you know how that goes, hasnt been done for a while, etc etc.
[01:13] <clynamen> How can I force apt-get to install without worring about dependencies?
[01:14] <Beldar> Eighga, W8 is a ##windows issue this is not ubuntu recovery on windows support.
[01:14] <jrib> Eighga: plug in drive, type "dmesg" see output.
[01:14] <Beldar> clynamen, bad idea.
[01:14] <clynamen> Beldar: I don't care, just tell me please
[01:14] <Beldar> I do
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> clynamen: can you pastebin the exact errors
[01:15] <th0r> clynamen: apt-get install -nodeps (or something close...I am not on linux right now)
[01:15] <clynamen> Beldar: I don't want to criticize or rant, but man apt-get is so broken
[01:15] <Eighga> jrib: what in the list of output am i looking for?
[01:16] <clynamen> hitsujiTMO: I'm trying to install boost libs from a PPA
[01:16] <clynamen> and some dependecies are not satisfied since I'm replacing old boost packages
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> clynamen: sounds like a broken ppa then
[01:17] <Klojum> hitsujiTMO: fsck on sda6:  OE_SYS: clean, 20/131072 files, 51251/524288 blocks
[01:17] <clynamen> btw, I know the risks, what is the command to ignore dependecies?
[01:18] <Beldar> clynamen, Just the fact you don't care is a huge red flag of you being back asking for more non-supported help, ppa's are not supported here.
[01:18] <spydon> Myrtti: good idea :)
[01:18] <quidnunc> Anyone know why mini-dinstall is creating "Packages" with filename that contain subdirs like "raring/mypackage"???
[01:18] <clynamen> Ok, I will shot myself in the foot, then I will not ask help anymore ;)
[01:19] <Beldar> yeah right, and I have bridge for sale, you interested?
[01:19] <SchrodingersScat> Beldar: network bridge?
[01:19]  * Beldar sees way to much help that is not supported here
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> clynamen: if your getting such an error from a ppa then there's a problem with the ppa itself. it has nothing to do with the fact that you already have a version of libboost installed already. infact any lib boost can be installed alongside another without any issue
[01:19] <Beldar> SchrodingersScat, London
[01:20] <Eighga> jrib: I got a message that says nss-myhostname
[01:20] <Eighga> got that a couple times
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> clynamen: purge that ppa and find a non broken one
[01:21] <clynamen> no ppa... I will install directly from the source
[01:22] <clynamen> or, at least, there is no way to install a package from a newer version?
[01:24] <MrDyne> Hey i'm just getting ready to point my domain name at my internet's static ip address using A record. My domain provider is mydomain. I was wonder, there this huge list of mail, mx, www, email etc that can all be A recorded to a diffrent IP... can I just delete them all and leave the * wild card cuz it's all going to the same ip?
[01:25] <MrDyne> not totaly a linux question but the ip address goes to my linux server.
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> MrDyne: you will need an A entry for domain.xxx  and you can use a CNAME for * to domain.xxx
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO> MrDyne: just remember that * will have to be after all other records
[01:32] <assassingj> part
[01:33] <jessica91>
[01:34] <zzxc> Hey is there something simalar to genfstab from arch in ubuntu?
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> zzxc: is nano/vim not good enough?
[01:36] <Eighga> jrib: so I went through the dmesg and it doesnt mention this hard drive ever being pluged into it, I looked for the serial number, and any other number off the actual hard drive. Nothing at all came up in the dmesg report
[01:36] <reisio> zzxc: if it works on arch it probably works on ubuntu
[01:36] <zzxc> hitsujiTMO: With how many times I've been unable to access a machine after doing that I try to avoid it alot.
[01:36] <zzxc> reisio: Currently no package let me see if exist in apt
[01:37] <zzxc> reisio: Yeah it doesn't exist.
[01:37] <reisio> zzxc: it's unlikely something named 'genstab' is more than a very small script or the like
[01:38] <reisio> 'genfstab'*
[01:38] <reisio> https://github.com/falconindy/arch-install-scripts/blob/master/genfstab.in
[01:39] <tool> how do I find the control panel
[01:39] <zzxc> tool: Flavor of ubuntu are you on
[01:39] <tool> ubuntu 7
[01:39] <zzxc> reisio: Cool thanks. I'll have to read through to double check thats compadible
[01:40] <zzxc> tool ubuntu 7?
[01:40] <tool> yup
[01:40] <zzxc> tool: like Feisty Fawn?
[01:40] <tool> yes
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | tool
[01:41] <tool> I like ubuntu 7
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> tool: that lost support, like 5 years ago
[01:42] <tool> ive tried new ubuntu
[01:42] <zzxc> tool: Wow,I'm impressed. It should be gnome2. Seriously though
[01:42] <zzxc> tool: it was a LTS.
[01:42] <tool> control panel does nothing when clicked
[01:42] <zzxc> Sorry not tool, hitsujiTMO it was a LTS
[01:43] <zzxc> tool: Mmm interesting. What are you trying to access?
[01:43] <tool> everything really
[01:43] <tool> evrrything in CP
[01:44] <tool> I use it a lot
[01:44] <zzxc> hitsujiTMO: Sorry I stand corrected 8.04 was the LTS.
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> zzxc: no, it wasn't ... even april releases are lts
[01:44] <jefferson> como crio um time regional ubuntu da Bahia
[01:44] <jefferson> ?
[01:45] <xangua> !pt | jefferson
[01:45] <zzxc> hitsujiTMO: Hahaha.  Yeah I just looked it up again. Supported ended in 2008.
[01:46] <zzxc> tool: I'm serisouly not sure. You could try launching it through alt+f2 or command line.
[01:46] <zzxc> tool: but I'm not sure what it would be called.
[01:47] <DGTX> yoyo
[01:47] <tool> where do I get help
[01:47] <zzxc> tool: I'm not going to be of much use but seriously I have to admire your staying power on it.
[01:47] <zzxc> tool: uhmmm also a good question. Archives of forum chats may be your best bet or poke around here until you have someone who knows more.
[01:49] <alimb> hi
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> tool: i'll jokingly say archive.org
[01:51] <zzxc> You know it might be because I have a background in stat mech, but I after to wonder why pandora would have thought that was sense in trying to trace back by roots rather than taking a large amount of agregate data and finding relevance amoung user preferences.
[01:52] <zzxc> hitsujiTMO: On a tanget. I heard something about there servers going up in a fire. Do you know what all would have been lost?
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> zzxc: they had backups, just non money for new servers
[01:53] <zzxc> hitsujiTMO: Alright cool, thanks for the info.
[01:54] <veryhappy> hey guys, want to install skype http://paste.ubuntu.com/6471712/ any suggestions?
[01:54] <veryhappy> thank you in advance
[01:58] <zzxc> veryhappy: How are you trying to install this?
[02:00] <veryhappy> zzxc: i'm trying to add the repository and then i install skype
[02:00] <zzxc> veryhappy: So via a ppa I take?
[02:00] <Beldar> veryhappy, The ubuntu repo has the latest skype use it.
[02:01] <zzxc> Beldar: Since when?
[02:01] <zzxc> Beldar: It used to be on a super old version.
[02:01] <veryhappy> Beldar: ok 1st off: if you didn't see i have issues and 2nd off i didn't find any skype version in the ubuntu repos.
[02:02] <Beldar> !skype
[02:02] <zzxc> !Ekiga | zzxc
[02:03] <zzxc> Huh. Interesting I didn't know about that.
[02:03] <zzxc> veryhappy: Out of curoisty what version and flavor are you using?
[02:04] <Beldar> veryhappy, This from the skype site this repo?
[02:04] <zzxc> veryhappy: Additionally you could try apt-get install xemacs21-mule xemacs21-nomule: xemacs21-mule-canna-wnn
[02:05] <GrendelT> anyone dealt with an "Input Signal Out of Range" issue in X?
[02:05] <GrendelT> GRUB is set fine, it's only after X loads
[02:05] <GrendelT> no video signal is displayed and the monitor shows "Out of Range"
[02:05] <Beldar> veryhappy, really, what release you running, skype is in the releases not eol, and 3rd I saw your errors 4th did you read the bots info?
[02:06] <zykotick9> GrendelT: you need to lower the resolution to something your display can handle
[02:06] <GrendelT> it's at 1024x768
[02:06] <GrendelT> that works on a different monitor
[02:06] <GrendelT> when i hook up this other monitor (a HannsG) it won't show
[02:07] <b0x> is there a safe way to install nvidia drivers?
[02:07] <veryhappy> sorry guys, got many conversations running on here
[02:07] <b0x> every attempt ive tried generally ends in a black screen after login
[02:08] <zykotick9> b0x: are you talking about downloading the driver from nvidia.com, OR using the Ubuntu install method?
[02:08] <b0x> but my system seems to be running very hot when on ubuntu, suggesting its running flat out the whole time (even though ive got onboard intel gfx also)
[02:08] <veryhappy> 12.04.3 LTS amd64
[02:08] <b0x> any method
[02:08] <b0x> ive tried before from the software center
[02:08] <zykotick9> b0x: DON'T download the driver from nvidia.com!  that is all ;)
[02:08] <utusan> why not?
[02:10] <zzxc> veryhappy: Is it from the deb from the skype webpage.
[02:10] <GrendelT> the monitor is an HW191D ... says it supports 1440x900 @ 70Hz... I'm just trying to get it do to 1024x768 as a starting point
[02:11] <zykotick9> utusan: i posted "why nvidia installer sucks", a debian dkpg factoid to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6471795/ (no line wrap, sorry)
[02:12] <veryhappy> well, when i add the repository i get the error i've already shown and when i try to use the .deb file it said something is missing...
[02:14] <Beldar> veryhappy, where did you get this repository?
[02:15] <kkkkkkk> hi all, i have pentium B960 processor and it is 64 bit capable, i have 2 gb ram, is it beneficial to use 64 bit ubuntu, instead of 32 bit, what performance gain i will get, if i switch from 32 bit to 64 bit
[02:16] <kkkkkkk> right now , i am using ubuntu 32 bit, 12.04 LTS
[02:16] <veryhappy> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-skype-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ - but that was the 2nd page i tried out
[02:16] <veryhappy> it actually tells you the same the first page did
[02:16] <a_l_g> 64 bit is for more then 4g of ram
[02:17] <kkkkkkk> a_l_g: nothing more advantage for laptop users
[02:17] <kkkkkkk> a_l_g: instead of RAM
[02:17] <a_l_g> lol low end loptops
[02:18] <kkkkkkk> i read somewhere that 32 bit can also address 64 GB of RAM , with the help of PAE
[02:18] <Beldar> veryhappy, Can you just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and pastebin all of it, always pastebin commands.
[02:19] <zykotick9> kkkkkkk: tbo, i consider 2gb kinda a small amount of RAM, to begin with.  SO, if you go 64bit, due to the overhead - you'll have even LESS, then if you stick to 32bit.  there are a couple of cases where you'd want 64bit, but mainly media-encoding and number crunching (if you're doing either of those, primarily, then go 64 else stick to 32 (unless you upgrade your ram)
[02:19] <Beldar> pae kernels allow more ram in 32 bit
[02:19] <veryhappy> what do you mean "always pastebin commands"?
[02:19] <veryhappy> include the commands as well?
[02:19] <veryhappy> i just know how to make pastebinit write everything online
[02:19] <Beldar> veryhappy, Your first pastebin of errors shows no command leading to them.
[02:20] <a_l_g> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback and kill the 3d look of ubuntu
[02:20] <kkkkkkk> i am asking about advantages of 64 bit processor and hardware, i don't need more RAM i am happy with 2 GB, as by default i use only 500 Mb of it, after opening firefox, chrome, etc, if i need to do some other work, i close one and work on another
[02:20] <veryhappy> ah gotcha
[02:20] <veryhappy> :D
[02:20] <Beldar> ;)
[02:20] <veryhappy> but how?
[02:20] <veryhappy> 1&>2?
[02:20] <zykotick9> kkkkkkk: media encoding & math/number crunching - those are the main two benefits (besides supporting more ram)
[02:21] <Beldar> veryhappy, run that command as a copy and paste to a terminal and copy and paste all of the text to a pastebin.
[02:21] <kkkkkkk> zykotick9: i do none of them :)
[02:21] <kkkkkkk> zykotick9: no simulations
[02:21] <veryhappy> well you want me to copy everything manually right_
[02:21] <veryhappy> ?
[02:22] <Beldar> veryhappy, What ever works for you.
[02:22] <veryhappy> ok
[02:22] <a_l_g> kkkk yes it will work but if your doing server to may need to use 32 bit
[02:22] <kkkkkkk> so, it is a safe idea to use 32 bit , for most of normal users
[02:22] <Beldar> veryhappy, You can copy and paste all of the terminal info in one full sweep.
[02:22] <zykotick9> kkkkkkk: there is that 2035 (or whatever) year issue... if your in high finance or something ;)
[02:23] <a_l_g> 64 bit will work but it a little more work as a new user i would use 32 bit and call it a day
[02:23] <Beldar> !tab | a_l_g
[02:24] <a_l_g> no shit
[02:24] <Beldar> !language | a_l_g
[02:24] <Beldar> geez
[02:24] <Lothsahn> Every time I add a new item in alacart (the menu editor for the "applications" menu in gnome classic), it puts it under the Other group.  How do I edit groups like Internet and Sound and Video?
[02:25] <kkkkkkk> a_l_g: i am a normal user with no specific task, watching some movies, surfing internet for my work, sometimes on facebook, that's it
[02:25] <kkkkkkk> thanks all
[02:25] <a_l_g> yw
[02:26] <zzxc> Hey how do I install an audio compoent to a ubuntu server install?
[02:28] <veryhappy> is there a way to copy terminal text with > 2>&1?
[02:28] <zzxc> What do you mean >2>&1?
[02:29] <Beldar> veryhappy, click where the command starts and move the cusor to the bottom of the terminal or double click the terminal.
[02:29] <Beldar> the menu has a choose all I believe
[02:29] <a_l_g> Using PulseAudio rm -r ~/.pulse*; pulseaudio -k for 12.04 rm -r ~/.config/pulse; pulseaudio -k for 13
[02:29] <veryhappy> Beldar: NOT helpful
[02:30] <veryhappy> it doesn't fit on the screen, so i wanted to know a better way not a NOOB way
[02:30] <Beldar> veryhappy, bummer well good luck than. ;)
[02:30] <Beldar> hehe I'm far from being a noob but you go girl/boy
[02:31] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  If you want help from people, it's best not to insult them.
[02:31] <Beldar> you get ignored
[02:31] <veryhappy> Beldar: i'm also not quite a noob anymore but the hint you gave me was more than superfluous
[02:32] <Lothsahn> Anyone know how to edit groups in the applications menu other than the "Other" group using a GUI?  It seems like the default menu editor always puts them in Other, and the old "type" dropdown no longer exists.
[02:32]  * Beldar wonders when they put open source in kindergartens
[02:32] <tool> how do you share a printer
[02:33] <Lothsahn> Oh sweet..  I just found the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1244087
[02:33] <zzxc> Beldar veryhappy: Hey seriously guys, Enough the the snide comments.
[02:33] <veryhappy> Beldar: i'm quite often helping people in here and i'm sometimes even doing it for hours without my problems getting solved, then i might have the possibility to complain at least once!
[02:35] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: You have the right to complain all you want--however, the only significant result of that complaint would be that you'll get ignored and not get the help you seek.
[02:36] <GrendelT> complaints > /dev/null
[02:36] <veryhappy> seriously guys, i'm sorry, but sometimes i can't hold it anymore.
[02:36] <tool> save me
[02:36] <Lothsahn> GrendeIT: In most cases, yes.  People in here aren't a paid company to whom they need to actually please others.
[02:36] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: Now, what did you mean by "copy terminal text"?  Did you mean redirect to a file AND also see it?
[02:36] <GrendelT> you mean, nobody here is paid to listen to it :)
[02:36] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: if that's what you were referring to, the utility you're interested in is called "tee"
[02:37] <Beldar> or even care
[02:37] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: If not, please rephrase your question. :)
[02:37] <tool> pls save me
[02:37] <zerocircle> Hi!
[02:37] <GrendelT> :)
[02:37] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: i just wanted to have everything i typed and saw on the terminal in a file or concatenate it straight to pastebinit
[02:37] <Beldar> !details | toobluesc
[02:37] <Beldar> !details | tool
[02:37] <tool> help
[02:37] <GrendelT> if anyone has experience with monitor resolution being out of range, hit me up
[02:37] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  I'm not sure about pastebinit, but if you want to redirect to console output as well as a file, you can output it to "tee".
[02:38] <Beldar> toobluesc: sorry
[02:38] <veryhappy> ok
[02:38] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: http://embraceubuntu.com/2007/05/17/using-tee-to-write-to-files-and-the-terminal/
[02:38] <GrendelT> it works on one monitor, i've dropped the res to 1024x768, but still no love
[02:38] <tool> im using ubuntu 13.5
[02:38] <GrendelT> monitor works in higher resolutions in windows, and card works on higher resolutions on other monitors
[02:38] <zzxc> tool: If you're talking about this conversation people let me join you. If you need help with the printers I have no clue.
[02:38] <tool> id like to share a printer
[02:38] <PDilyard> i installed 13.10 and my laptop won't wake from suspend. it worked on 12.04
[02:38] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  You, of course, may need to install the tee utility.  However, it's very helpful if you want to both see output and send it to a file.  As for pastebinit, I'm not familiar with that.
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> Hey, I have something of a strange issue I need some help with. For my work I need to set up a softphone. That I have done, but I am trying to set the program to use my headphones and not my speakers
[02:39] <Beldar> !pastebinit
[02:39] <tool> help
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> But I can't find any way to get ubuntu to recognize my rear headphone's jack
[02:39] <GrendelT> it seems to be using the "radeon" driver... is that good or no? do i want to use the fglrx instead? Radeon HD 6310 chip
[02:39] <tool> help
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> I can get it to work if I disconnect my my speakers and plug the headphones into the speaker jack
[02:40] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: it is already installed :) btw: pastebinit just needs to be piped with "command | pastebinit"
[02:40] <geekmasterflash> But that means I can't listen to music while working, which would be tragic
[02:40] <tool> help
[02:40] <Beldar> tool, Stop posting garbage and give some details.
[02:40] <tool> I did
[02:40] <shin1> hai hai
[02:40] <veryhappy> tool: but then please write more than just "help"
[02:40] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: Ah.  In that case, tee will work for you.  You'll just have to redirect the output to tee first (which will copy to the console), and then pipe/redirect to pastebinit
[02:40] <tool> I did
[02:41] <Beldar> tool, Name of OS and printer and share info would be a good start.
[02:41] <GrendelT> tool: don't spam. post, be patient and continue to google while you wait
[02:41] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: "command | tee | pastebinit" ?
[02:41] <tool> share info?
[02:41] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: Don't remember the exact syntax.  Go read the page I linked--it's pretty detailed with examples.
[02:41] <fobelx> hitsujiTMO: hi. i tried to install libsdl-net1.2:i386 but it wants to remove a lot of packages and says the move could be dangerous.
[02:41] <veryhappy> ok
[02:41] <Beldar> tool, from-to is there a network, is this wifi...etc
[02:41] <PDilyard> i installed 13.10 and my laptop won't wake from suspend. it worked on 12.04. any ideas?
[02:41] <GrendelT> what version are you running, what sort of printer is it? is the print server built into the printer?
[02:41] <fobelx> hitsujiTMO: so i opted out.
[02:42] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: that's in all cases better than the manually copy and paste thing :)
[02:42] <veryhappy> thank you
[02:42] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: of course.  :)
[02:42] <fobelx> hitsujiTMO: i couldn't figure out how to install version 2 of sdl net though...
[02:42] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: Tee is a very common command.  if the page I linked isn't descriptive enough, I'm sure you can figure it out with Google.
[02:42] <tool> cannon mx 395
[02:43] <veryhappy> k
[02:43] <tool> ubuntu 13.5
[02:43] <geekmasterflash> Anyone have any experiance with getting headphones to play nice with speakers?
[02:44] <GrendelT> ?
[02:44] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, hmm, no details?
[02:44] <GrendelT> you can't just unplug one and plug in the other?!
[02:44] <GrendelT> or plug headphones into any ext jack on the speakers?
[02:44] <esde> trying to uninstall opera. ubuntu 12.04, not installed in software center but still showing in unity, and with which, and i can open and run it. i am not able to remove it with dpkg or apt, both say it is not installed
[02:44] <tool> help
[02:44] <GrendelT> oh tool...
[02:44] <Lothsahn> If I have a specific bug in ubuntu that's irritating to me, is there some way that I could pay to get it fixed?
[02:45] <shin1> ngak ada ubuntu 13.5 yang ada 13.4
[02:45] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, red wine, empathy and positive reinforcement. ;)
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: Using pulseaudio, I am trying to get both my speakers and rear headphone jack to play nice. Currently, I can get the rear input to work, but my read headphone jack doesn't appear to be an option in sound control
[02:45] <GrendelT> tool: help spam is not cool - patience
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: I can get the headphone to work if I plug them into the speaker port, but that means I can't use my softphone and listen to music
[02:45] <tool> you no listen
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: Which is my end goal
[02:45] <jrib> Lothsahn: sure, you can create a bug bounty
[02:46] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: I'd be happy to provide more details if you know which commands I should be throwing down to get them?
[02:46] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, Not sure if it is not in the sound control, you sure it's not a input?
[02:46] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: you indeed helped me a lot.
[02:46] <Lothsahn> jrib:  Where can you do a bug bounty?
[02:46] <Beldar> like for a mic
[02:47] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: I am positive, as I have the mic portion of my headset plugged into the mic port and it works
[02:47] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, I would address this to the channel.
[02:47] <jrib> Lothsahn: I don't know.  Check if launchpad has such a functionality
[02:48] <Lothsahn> jrib:
[02:48] <Lothsahn> jrib: Thanks
[02:48] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: anyway i didn't get the 2>&1 work for me
[02:48] <jrib> Lothsahn: if there isn't such functionality there (or you can't find it), try #ubuntu-bugs or the mailiing list
[02:48] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: 2>&1 just means redirect stdout and stderror
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Alright, so the issue is this: I have set up a softphone on my machine for work. I like to listen to music while I work, so my goal is to have my sound from the softphone go to my headphones and mic and everything else my speakers. My headset is plugged into the rear headphone and mic jack. My mic is working, but in sound control I have no rear headphones option
[02:49] <jrib> Lothsahn: eh?
[02:49] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, no sign of it with alsamixer in the cli?
[02:49] <veryhappy> yea i did apt-get update and upgrade but i just got 4 lines instead of all the lines normally shown
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: Let me check
[02:49] <Beldar> just a guess
[02:49] <GrendelT> tool : you'll find this hilarious. I just googled for linux printer sharing canon and guess what model was in an example on the top 10 search results? yeah. cool huh?
[02:49] <GrendelT> so RTFM and Google away
[02:50] <john_doe_jr> how do you set the FQDN on ubuntu server?
[02:50] <richringer> When I run sudo apt-get update I get an error when it reads the cache at 98% is there a way I can fix this? I can't do any updates at all.
[02:50] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: Yeah, I see a headphone option in AlsMixer
[02:50] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  So the syntax would be:  command 2>&1 | tee (filename) >> pastebinit
[02:50] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, is it off?
[02:50] <tool> help
[02:50] <aaas> anyone using samba 4 or 4.1 in production?
[02:50] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: i need a filename?
[02:50] <tool> help
[02:50] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: That'd send it to pastebinit and a file.  I'm not sure how to send it to pastebinit as well as stdout, as there's only one stdout stream
[02:50] <tool> help
[02:51] <geekmasterflash> Beldar: Good question. I see multi-colored bars which seems to suggest to me that it's not
[02:51] <veryhappy> tool: stop writing help again and again
[02:51] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  Well, yes--there's only one stdout stream, so unless pastebinit supported splitting the stream, I don't know of a way to send stdout to console and redirect it
[02:51] <tool> help
[02:51] <Beldar> richringer, Are you sure all the repos are up for your release?
[02:51] <tool> help
[02:51] <veryhappy> tool STOP WRITING HELP
[02:51] <tool> help
[02:51] <tool> help.
[02:51] <tool> help.
[02:51] <BuntuFuntu> !ops
[02:51] <tool> help
[02:51] <veryhappy> can anyone please kick this bastard?!
[02:51] <tool> help
[02:51] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, I have rarely messed with the alsamixer and am in windows so can't really directly help is all.
[02:51] <veryhappy> tool shut the fuck up
[02:51] <tool> help
[02:52] <IdleOne> tool: what do you need help with?
[02:52] <richringer> Beldar it reads the repo's then bombs on reading my cache at 98% I don't see any repo errors
[02:52] <IdleOne> !language | veryhappy
[02:52] <tool> help
[02:52] <tool> help
[02:52] <Beldar> richringer, You might change the repo in software sources.
[02:53] <richringer> Beldar I'm running 13.10
[02:53] <BuntuFuntu> He stopped o.O
[02:53] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  if you had to see it in the console, you could either open a second terminal and tail -f the file that tee is writing to, OR you'd have to write a program, I think
[02:54] <Beldar> richringer, and that means?
[02:54] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: it's strange i always just get Reading package lists...
[02:54] <veryhappy> Building dependency tree...
[02:54] <veryhappy> Reading state information...
[02:54] <veryhappy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:55] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  There are two streams to capture--stdout and stderr.  The 2>&1 should capture them both
[02:56] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[02:57] <seryph> anyone happen to have a Thinkpad T530 working on a docking station in Ubuntu? Nvidia gfx.
[02:57] <jimmy_bananas> hey is there any pulseaudio experts out there who might help me configure my alc268 soundcard with pulseaudio in ubuntu 13.10?
[02:58] <Beldar> jimmy_bananas, state the actual details to the channel for help.
[02:58] <richringer> Beldar apparently my local cache is corrupted. I get an input/output error says status file could not be opened or parsed.
[02:59] <Beldar> richringer, hmm, this from the cli?
[02:59] <apb1963> What is the ubuntu way of using a scanner on 12.04 ?
[02:59] <richringer> Beldar huh?
[03:00] <zykotick9> richringer: i'd check your "dmesg" are you getting a lot of I/O errors?  could point to a failing drive (hopefully not).
[03:00] <Beldar> richringer, just wondering where and when you see "an input/output error says status file could not be opened or parsed."
[03:01] <richringer> Beldar I ran apt-get update in a terminal.  it showed the error in the terminal window.
[03:02] <Beldar> apb1963, you tried xsane?
[03:02] <Beldar> richringer, I would follow what zykotick9 suggests.
[03:02] <Beldar> apb1963, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Scanners
[03:03] <richringer> Beldar yea... I just checked and that's what it's looking like.
[03:03] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: it doesn't help anything
[03:03] <veryhappy> :D
[03:03] <jimmy_bananas> Ive got a Toshiba Satellite X205-S9800 with the realtek alc268 soundcard configured for 2 channels in alsa. This laptop has 4 speakers and a subwoofer capable of 5.1 surround, however I am unable to successfully enable the pulseaudio settings to work as such. I am running (Ubuntu 13.10). I have done some suggested modification to the /etc/pulse/daemon.conf file with only confusing results.
[03:03] <GrendelT> FYI - i got my Out of Range error resolved by uninstalling the fglrx drivers completely and rebooting.
[03:04] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  So I can help you get it redirecting to a file and console--but you're on your own for pastebinit
[03:04] <Lothsahn> what command are you trying to redirect?  apt-get update?
[03:05] <jimmy_bananas> both alsa and pulseaudio are up to date, but I am teaching myself how to configure them via ubuntu forums, and trial & error so its been an education lol
[03:05] <DarthExpeditor> doing a design layout for a game
[03:05] <DarthExpeditor> Out of all the sci-fi shows and what not, who had the coolest lab?
[03:06] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  The following command will run an "apt-get update" and send all output both to test.txt and the console: "sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | tee test.txt"
[03:06] <veryhappy> ok
[03:06] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  I don't know of a way to redirect standard out to pastebinit and also have it go to stdout.  There may be a way--but I can't help with that.  But at least if you send it to a file, you could monitor that file with tail -f
[03:06] <Lothsahn> (in another terminal).
[03:06] <veryhappy> yea i'll try that
[03:07] <gp5st> Why is my apt broken, and more importantly what I do to fix it.  I've found various references to similar errors, but no solutions. http://bpaste.net/show/iKh7LkCgKVcyJIbXpe9q/
[03:08] <Lothsahn> gp5st: What specific error are you getting?
[03:08] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: I believe this would be your command to redirect to pastebinit and a file: "sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | tee test.txt"
[03:08] <Lothsahn> Do check to see if pastebinit has a flag that can cause it also to output to stdout
[03:08] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: "sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | tee test.txt > pastebinit"
[03:09] <zykotick9> gp5st: my question, why is bash-completion not even installed?  is this some stripped down install of some sort?
[03:09] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: really strange, i did it all the time the way you did but it didn't work now i see it just worked with .txt ?!
[03:09] <hggdh> procps failed to start
[03:10] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: The specific filename should not matter.   :D i didn't do it that way
[03:11] <pgrytdal-2> Hello. Every time I try to install Ubuntu 13.10 (both 32bit and 64bit) the isntaller freezes.
[03:11] <zykotick9> gp5st: good luck.  i got nothing.
[03:11] <gp5st> zykotick9: why did initramfs-tools get messed up?
[03:11] <gp5st> :(
[03:11] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: i did command1 && command2 | tee something and of course only saw the output of command2!
[03:11] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Is the hardware up for it?
[03:11] <Lothsahn> veryhappy:  Well.  Yep!  You would.  :)
[03:11] <john_doe_jr> is there a way to install vmware tools using sudo apt-get?
[03:11] <veryhappy> so i need to make an append for tee then
[03:12] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Have you checked the sums of any iso or changed install media?
[03:12] <Lothsahn> john_doe_jr:  Not that I know of.  Copy the installer from the virtual mounted CD and run it manually from your home directory
[03:12] <veryhappy> thank you guys for solving this issue :)
[03:12] <john_doe_jr> Lothsahn: alright thanks
[03:12] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: Tee will append if you pass -a
[03:12] <gp5st> Lothsahn: I think it's do to this error: invoke-rc.d: initscript procps, action "start" failed.
[03:12] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: tee --help :)
[03:13] <gp5st> Lothsahn: but i don't know how to fix it or why it broke
[03:13] <pgrytdal-2> Beldar What do you mean "is the hardware up for it"? I have tried a different install media. How do I check the sums?
[03:13] <veryhappy> ok
[03:13] <Beldar> !md5sum | pgrytdal-2
[03:13] <Lothsahn> gp5st: Do not know solution offhand.  Sorry man.  Google shows: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965734
[03:13] <azio_m> i want to use updatedb shouid i install mlocate or locate
[03:14] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, You have 64 bit so I would assume the chip os fast enough is there enough ram, this is checking the hardware.
[03:14] <birdsnacks> so i'm used to using iptables, but not that used to ubuntu server, i just want to put an iptables rule to route 80 through to localhost:8081 and am not sure how to do it without conflicting with networkmanager
[03:14] <birdsnacks> (so that it survives reboot)
[03:15] <gp5st> Lothsahn: i've seen that, but i don't have /etc/sysctl.d/30-iscsitarget.conf
[03:15] <pgrytdal-2> Beldar I know the LiveUSB runs just fine with the 64bit (except for the installer.) There is 8gbs of RAM.
[03:16] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Cool, we just on occasion have people trying to install on computers to old and weak to really run ubuntu.
[03:16] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Is this a dual boot perchance?
[03:18] <BuntuFuntu> Beldar: Is a Lenovo S100 too weak to run Ubuntu?
[03:18] <zykotick9> !firewall | birdsnacks
[03:19] <zykotick9> birdsnacks: just in case ;)  good luck.
[03:19] <Lothsahn> BuntuFuntu: Depends on how patient you are!
[03:19] <BuntuFuntu>      System Type Netbook     Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Starter     Notebook type Budget,     Netbook  Processor / Chipset      CPU Intel Atom N455 / 1.66 GHz     Cache L2 cache - 512.0 KB     Chipset Intel NM10 Express     Features Integrated memory controller,     Hyper-Threading Technology  Memory      RAM 1.0 GB ( 1 x 1 GB )     Max RAM Supported 2.0 GB     Technology DDR3 SDRAM     Speed 1333.0 MHz / PC3-10600     F
[03:19] <Beldar> BuntuFuntu, should be okay
[03:20] <Lothsahn> Buntufuntu: (mostly kidding)  That thing should be fine, depending on how much ram you have installed.  I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on a bunch of boxes with similar specs, but a slower processor.
[03:20] <KnownSyntax> BuntuFuntu: It'll be slow with a lot of things open, assuming it only has 1GB RAM default.
[03:20] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: how much?
[03:21] <veryhappy> Lothsahn: how can i printf a newline into a file? \n?
[03:21] <BuntuFuntu> Well it's running fine and yes it only has 1gb ram. And Reisio: I got mine for free(:
[03:21] <Lothsahn> BuntuFuntu:  If you upped it to 2GB RAM your experience would be a lot better, but the machine I'm on right now really isn't all that much faster than that one--and I have about 50 deployed machines in production with smaller specs than that.
[03:21] <KnownSyntax> I use that same netbook as a Ubuntu Server, although I'd highly recommend upgrade the RAM (although it's a pain with netbooks) as you will see the difference right away.
[03:21] <reisio> veryhappy: echo -e '\n'
[03:21] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: if you're talking C, you want fprintf
[03:21] <reisio> BuntuFuntu: oh, nice
[03:21] <reisio> think my cousin might give me one of those
[03:21] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: and for a newline, it's \n on Linux and \r\n on Windows
[03:21] <reisio> she might be under the delusion that a 5-year-old netbook is worth something, though
[03:21] <reisio> \n works fine on Windows
[03:22] <veryhappy> YEEHAW you guys i did it with your help! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472046/
[03:22] <veryhappy> thanks
[03:22] <BuntuFuntu> I think the S100 was released in 2010
[03:22] <Lothsahn> reisio: Not if you want to edit it in notepad.  yes, I know it's a dumb editor, but a lot of windows programs expect \r\n.  many do not.
[03:22] <reisio> the kind of people who use notepad will not be using things from a Unix system
[03:22] <Lothsahn> veryhappy: :)  Now you're VERY HAPPY.  (pun intended)
[03:22] <veryhappy> :D
[03:23] <Lothsahn> reisio: Depends on if they're planning to ship to other users.   I think not
[03:24] <BuntuFuntu> o.o
[03:24] <reisio> anyways, you don't put a \r into a text file on the offchance it will go to Windows
[03:24] <pgrytdal-2> Beldar No. It is not dual boot. The 32bit does not come out correct. The 64bit does.
[03:24] <reisio> just unix2dos as required
[03:24] <Lothsahn> reisio: Yep.  Wish those ubuntu folk hadn't renamed that package.
[03:25] <reisio> did they?
[03:25] <reisio> to what?
[03:25] <Lothsahn> tofrodos
[03:25] <reisio> :/
[03:25] <BuntuFuntu> Device 'LGL35G' (E8:92:A4:12:BF:2F) wants access to the service '0000111f-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb\
[03:25] <Lothsahn> There's a compatibility package, but like...  seriously?
[03:25] <reisio> think that's just a separate package
[03:25] <BuntuFuntu> WHat service is that?
[03:25] <Lothsahn> Reisio: Yeah, but, by default, dos2unix and unix2dos doesn't work on Ubuntu unless you install extra packages
[03:25] <Lothsahn> reisio: Or didn't in one of the previous releases, like 12.04 LTS
[03:26] <reisio> well that would mean tofrodos is superior
[03:26] <Lothsahn> reisio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1540180
[03:26] <BuntuFuntu> Lothsans, what service is my device trying to access?
[03:26] <BuntuFuntu> Device 'LGL35G' (E8:92:A4:12:BF:2F) wants access to the service '0000111f-0000-1000-8000-00805f9b34fb
[03:26] <Lothsahn> reisio: superior or not, I don't expect to code an application for any mainstream linux and have dos2unix nonpresent!  It was rather annoying :)
[03:26] <BuntuFuntu> That would be bluetooth, right?
[03:26] <Lothsahn> BuntuFuntu: No idea.
[03:27] <reisio> yeah
[03:27] <reisio> they should've made it a drop-in replacement (use same name)
[03:27] <Lothsahn> reisio: Agreed.
[03:27] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, So when and where does the installer freeze on the 64 bit, and are there any errors?
[03:27] <Lothsahn> reisio: I mean, also, how much can you REALLY improve that package!  I mean...  regex replace \n with \r\n!
[03:27] <Lothsahn> reisio: </soapbox>
[03:28] <reisio> yeah I mean, really all the convenience is in the name
[03:28] <reisio> you can do it with tr from coreutils, after all
[03:28] <Lothsahn> reisio: I saw a software vendor do it with a regex.
[03:28] <Lothsahn> reisio: and they screwed up their regex in shell.
[03:28] <reisio> heh
[03:29] <pgrytdal-2> On the 64 bit, if I decide to encrypt my whole installation, it freezes after I put in my name, computer name, username, and password. If I do not do that option, it happens somewhere during "copying files"
[03:29] <pgrytdal-2> ^ Beldar
[03:29] <Lothsahn> reisio: And they did it because they didn't select dos2unix when they compiled busybox.    Given their volumes of like 10,000 units/year, that was like...  a full $5?
[03:30] <thejhawk> Wow, so apparently Ubuntu 13.10 and Windows don't play nice together share wise
[03:30] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, I have never encrypted so that is a dead end for me. Any other info though like a custom computer build, if it had another OS and what it was, just variables that could be the root of the problems.
[03:31] <thejhawk> I love how samba just freaking breaks for no reason
[03:31] <Beldar> me too
[03:31] <Lothsahn> thejhawk: You mean samba?  Haven't had any problems.  Normally I find samba works better than windows file shares
[03:31] <thejhawk> I did too
[03:31] <Lothsahn> thejhawk: was an absolute PAIN to setup, though
[03:31] <thejhawk> Everything worked perfect
[03:31] <geekmasterflash> Hmm, so I am not getting sound to my headphones, but it's mirrored what's being played on my speakers. Is there any way to have my front headphones be different outputs from my built in sound?
[03:32] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: That's very dependent on your soundcard.
[03:32] <thejhawk> I made three folders sharable I even put files in them from both PCs last night
[03:32] <thejhawk> worked great. Then I come back to my computer tonight and can't share anymore
[03:33] <thejhawk> authentication error on Windows side and I can' access Windows shares on ubuntu side
[03:33] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Realtek ALC892
[03:33] <Lothsahn> thejhawk: Weird.  Check /var/log/samba and make sure it's running?
[03:33] <evilbug> ok. scrapped unity and now back to xfce.
[03:33] <thejhawk> If it wasn't running wouldn't I not be able to see them?
[03:33] <reisio> evilbug: :)
[03:33] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: I am trying to have my front mic be sepearate outputs from my default so I can make phone calls and listen to music
[03:33] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Other helpful info might be the install media and how you are loading the ISO to it.
[03:33] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: I don't know anything about which card you have.  I'm just saying that some cards would support multiple output streams, and some do not.  I wouldn't normally expect an embedded chip like a realtek to do that.
[03:33] <thejhawk> I can see my PC on the Windows workgroup in Windows 7
[03:33] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: but I have no experience with a Realtek ALC892.
[03:34] <DoverMo> gp5st, okay
[03:34] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: I'm not even sure if Ubuntu supports that with multiple sound cards.  It might.  You could pick up a soundblaster audigy dirt cheap on ebay and play with that in addition to your realtek
[03:34] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: If you find it's impossible with the realtek
[03:34] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: ...Unless it's a laptop.
[03:34] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: It's a desktop
[03:34] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: According to Realtek, this built in can handle multiple outputs
[03:35] <gp5st> DoverMo: the mention of ubuntu there gets you kicked. happened to me before as well. I was hoping someone there might know something. I didn't spam the channel, and even acknowledged it was in contract to normal conduct and that I've tried other avenues first
[03:35] <thejhawk> I've already installed in the last day Ubuntu about 4 times so I am guessing this isn't for me
[03:35] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: So I doubt you can do what you're trying to do, but you might be able to.  I'm not sure how to set it up.
[03:35] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922860
[03:35] <DoverMo> gp5st, : P. that's freenode for us
[03:35]  * thejhawk just doesn't have the time to spend days trying to find out why I can't do something as simple as share folders across a network. oh well =(
[03:35] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: I can do it in windows, so I am positive it's not a hardware issue.
[03:36] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: that website talks about setup for multiple sounds cards in ubuntu.  if it's just showing one stream, I would suspect it's not possible.
[03:36] <gp5st> DoverMo: it's annoying. i know they don't want to get over run as an ubuntu support channel, but still. no way to build a community
[03:36] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: That means the hardware supports it, which is good.  Now the question is does the Linux driver support it
[03:36] <BuntuFuntu> thejhawk: Let me see what I can find out.
[03:36] <thejhawk> The OS still looks nice though. Linux has come a long way from years ago
[03:36] <DoverMo> gp5st, indeed. bad sentiments
[03:36] <BuntuFuntu> Thejhawk: Linux is just the Kernel, not the OS(:
[03:36] <thejhawk> I give Ubuntu credit as far as linux finding drivers
[03:36] <thejhawk> I kno
[03:36] <thejhawk> I am speaking on Linux as a whole
[03:36] <DoverMo> gp5st, anyways, the output from that command should tell you what you need to configure first
[03:37] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: If the linux driver doesn't show it as multiple outputs, it's probably not possible.  But you can buy one of these for $7 (including shipping) and have two soundcards: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Creative-Labs-Sound-Blaster-Audigy2-GOLD-PCI-Sound-Card-SB0060-Tested-Working-/321258355975?pt=US_Sound_Cards_Internal_&hash=item4acc7d7d07
[03:37] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Just need a spare PCI port.
[03:37] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash:  You might find that your easiest solution.
[03:37] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Which I don't have.
[03:37] <thejhawk> Ubuntu looks fantastic though. Perhaps 5 or 6 years down the road you may see ubuntu machines that rival OS X and Win
[03:37] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: I am running SLI
[03:37] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: You don't have $7?
[03:37] <thejhawk> That would be fantastic
[03:37] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Oh, a spare PCI port.  I wasn't talking PCI-X...  I meant the olstyle PCI port
[03:38] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: No room in the case?
[03:38] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: My PCI ports are filled by 2 video cards and system blowers
[03:38] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: To keep it from roasting alive
[03:38] <themill> gp5st: there is no part of that question that is debian related or even close to anything #debian can possibly help you with. Asking in ##windows would be just as likely to get you an answer.
[03:38] <pgrytdal-2> Beldar It *is* a custom computer. I received it from my church, after the Windows XP installation got a virus, so they replaced the entire computer(??). I know the CPU is an Asus P5K3 Deluxe. Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500.
[03:38] <BuntuFuntu> Thejhawk: My school district replaced one of two Computer Labs at the high school with Ubuntu computers(:
[03:38] <thejhawk> The whole "your computer can completely break at any point in time after doing nothing" thing I think is still a hangup.
[03:38] <BuntuFuntu> OS'S* Not computers
[03:38] <thejhawk> I mean not to those that have the time
[03:38] <BuntuFuntu> And I think it's Edubuntu :3
[03:39] <pgrytdal-2> beldar The grpahics card (if it maters) is a Evga E-Geforce 8800GT
[03:39] <scientes_> !es
[03:39] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: what about a USB headset?
[03:39] <thejhawk> BuntuFuntu: Good to hear. I hope they have knowledgable people working with them
[03:39] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash:  This all assumes that you don't see two outputs in the pulseaudio configuration tool
[03:39] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Wouldn't that have the same problem? Or would the USB headset use it's own audio driver?
[03:40] <thejhawk> BuntuFuntu: Linux as a whole I think still requires people with a whooooooole lot of time to be able to troubleshoot.  I mean my opinion Doesn't mean I am right
[03:40] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: USB headsets usually have their own decoder--I *think*
[03:40] <BuntuFuntu> thejhawk: They do(:
[03:40] <zzxc> Hey is there a ubuntu server channel?
[03:40] <thejhawk> BuntuFuntu: But I think distros like Ubuntu will get past that
[03:40] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: You should double check me on that.
[03:40] <veryhappy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472111/
[03:40] <thejhawk> eventually
[03:40] <reisio> zzxc: /msg alis list *ubunt*serv*
[03:40] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penguin-USB-2-0-Audio-Adapter-Card-for-Linux-Ubuntu-/270791927280
[03:40] <veryhappy> there you go guys
[03:40] <gp5st> themill: I don't really care to talk to you about this. I acknowledged that and as a last ditch someone there would know someone or something about procscp. I didn't spam the channel and honestly didn't expect much to come of it.
[03:40] <pgrytdal-2> beldar I used both a 2gb SD card (connected to a SD to USB converter thing), a 8gb SD card (same thing), and a 1tb external hard drive. I do not have an actual USB drive right now xP
[03:40] <BuntuFuntu> THejhawk: the only problem I've had with ubuntu is my laptops touchpad stopped working yesterday but even that fixed itself XD
[03:40] <DoverMo> thejhawk, helps if you brain can telepathically read machine language
[03:40] <gp5st> themill:  But +q me, it's fine. w/e I'm not going to login to another box and rail against it or anything.  I don't care to squabble about someone's fiefdom
[03:41] <BuntuFuntu> Thejhawk: After like 20 minutes of using a usb mouse. my laptops came back :3
[03:41] <scientes_> !es
[03:41] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash you could check out that one.  it's built to work with Linux, which would be a big plus in terms of messing around with drivers.
[03:41] <thejhawk> It might!
[03:41] <DoverMo> O:
[03:41] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, To be honest I'm not sure I never have install problems, so I'm just going through possibilities which there are a lot of. How are you loading that ssd?
[03:41] <themill> gp5st: it's not about fiefdoms. Debian doesn't support upstart and Debian does support openvz. #ubuntu or ##linux might.
[03:41] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Hmm, that might be just what the doctor ordered, that or Realtek offering real linux support on their drivers.
[03:41] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: This is all non-ideal.  I mean, theoretically, ubuntu should work like windows and let you do what windows does.  But I don't know what options you ahve in the pulseaudio.  if the driver doesn't expose multiple output streams, you're hosed.
[03:41] <thejhawk> I love Linux and I think ubuntu is great, I just don't like being afraid everytime I open up my laptop praying to the OS gods that everything still works
[03:42] <zeek> So I need help with pgadminIII. I already tried #pgadmin channel and I counld'nt find help there, can anyone point me to a better channel?
[03:42] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Start by looking at pulseaudio's configuration and see if you only see one output device.  if you only see one, you're done. :(
[03:42] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, You are doing the install to an internal HD?
[03:42] <BuntuFuntu> Thejhawk: I've ran that risk almost this whole month.
[03:42] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: a thought strikes me, can I duplicate the card in alsa and just have the second "card" have every channel but mic and headphone muted and do it that way?
[03:42] <pgrytdal-2> Beldar Yes
[03:42] <thejhawk> That sucks too because samba was working great. the only hangup I had with my install was getting java to work with chromium and oidentd
[03:42] <thejhawk> two things that I didn't care that much about
[03:42] <BuntuFuntu> Thejhawk: I full installed Ubuntu, no fall back os's:D
[03:42] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Possibly.  I'm not 100% clear on how the audio configuration works down to that level
[03:43] <gp5st> themill: it is about fiefdoms and i know that, hence why i said so from the outset. I was hoping to find someone to point me someone where i could get help or help me outside of the channel. shooing people away for seeing if anyone knows anything that they could discuss out-of-band isn't anyway to run anything
[03:43] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: The mic isn't really the problem anyway--you don't care if the mic goes everywhere, you just want to capture it in skype or your telephone program or whatever
[03:43] <themill> gp5st: it's not. But good luck.
[03:43] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: The problem is the sound output
[03:43] <thejhawk> BuntuFuntu: Yea =( I wish I knew what made it break.
[03:43] <gp5st> themill: in theory, this issue isn't about #ubuntu so why are you talking about it here?
[03:43] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: True.
[03:43] <thejhawk> BuntuFuntu: I thnk it has something to do with libpam-smbpass
[03:43] <thejhawk> BuntuFuntu: Everytime I use the software center to install samba
[03:43] <thejhawk> it would hang on that
[03:43] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Here is something: When I look in alsamixer, I can see it has a headphone channel
[03:44] <gp5st> themill: you're breaking your own philosophy just to make me upset and make sure i've learned my lesson
[03:44] <thejhawk> last time it hung I went into term and manually installed it via apt-get
[03:44] <BuntuFuntu> Thejhawk: Hmm. did you google search it? Thats probably a stupid question lol
[03:44] <thejhawk> and it worked
[03:44] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: It's just mirrored to the base output
[03:44] <pgrytdal-2> Beldar To create the live USB, I have used Unetbootin, usb-creator-gtk and the terminal method. (http://anl4u.com/blog/how-to-create-live-bootable-usb-via-terminal-in-linux/)
[03:44] <thejhawk> BuntuFuntu: Yea. can't find anything that seems usefull
[03:44] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: I can't guarantee that the card I linked will show up as a second soundcard, but I think it will.
[03:44] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Ah.  yes, you do not want to mirror that
[03:44] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: If you could set it to non-mirrored and have two output sources, that's what you want
[03:44] <thejhawk> I installed Ubuntu, shared a folder and natuilus asks to install samba which I did
[03:45] <thejhawk> I noticed though it hung on libpam-smbpass
[03:45] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Indeed, I am just not sure I can
[03:45] <thejhawk> So I went to terminal, apt-get installed and then my shares worked
[03:45] <thejhawk> for a day
[03:45] <thejhawk> now they broke
[03:45] <BuntuFuntu> Thejhawk: Hmm. PM me thejhawk.
[03:45] <veryhappy> did you guys see?
[03:45] <thejhawk> Sure
[03:45] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Do you have any dvd's, the ssd going through a usb converter could be a problem, one never knows.
[03:46] <HereticLocke> Hi
[03:46] <pgrytdal-2> Beldar No I do not. Besides, the DVD player on the computer I am using does not work. x(
[03:47] <HereticLocke> Ubuntu keeps returning me to login screen when I login
[03:47] <HereticLocke> Can someone please help?
[03:47] <eb0t> hereticlocke just delete ubuntu and install archlinux
[03:47] <HereticLocke> Haha
[03:47] <HereticLocke> Seriously, this is an emergency
[03:48] <eb0t> im being serious
[03:48] <zzxc> eb0t: Yeah not a fast thing.
[03:48] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: You using ubuntu?  Open sound in the control panel
[03:48] <DoverMo> HereticLocke, i would recommend lunar linux
[03:48] <thejhawk> I wonder if it's better to use apt-get instead of the software center
[03:48] <gp5st> HereticLocke: what's the error log say?
[03:48] <thejhawk> I mean I know the software center is just a GUI
[03:48] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Just "sound"?
[03:48] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Applications->System Settings->Sound
[03:48] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: AFK.  Be back in a couple
[03:48] <eb0t> or fedora if you dont want to get into the guts of linux
[03:48] <HereticLocke> gp5st: something about a .so file
[03:49] <zzxc> HereticLocke: So when you sign in it automatically signs out.
[03:49] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Got sound open
[03:49] <gp5st> HereticLocke: not very informative
[03:49] <thejhawk> Any samba gurus?
[03:49] <eb0t> maybe turn off caps lock
[03:49] <thejhawk> opps
[03:49] <thejhawk> sorry about the any
[03:49] <thejhawk> I need a good seasoned samba guru
[03:49] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Thats about it for me I'm assuming your limited to this install media. If it were me I would look there IE a USB, and look on askubuntu in regards to to hardware and computer model if relevant for this release your trying.
[03:50] <thejhawk> I would be greatful for your assistance
[03:50] <gp5st> eb0t: interesting, i didn't see that in all caps..i wonder if pidgeon auto-converts that?
[03:50] <zykotick9> HereticLocke: log into console (ctrl+alt+f1) and run "ls -la .Xauthority" is it owned by root?
[03:50] <HereticLocke> gp5st: error while loading shared libraries /use/lib32/libc.so.6: invalid ELF header
[03:50] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Thing is it could be any number of things really.
[03:50] <eb0t> dont know ...im using weechat-curses on archlinux
[03:50] <zzxc> thejhawk: Whats your issue?
[03:51] <HereticLocke> zykotick9: I have done that It is not
[03:51] <zykotick9> HereticLocke: ok.  good luck.
[03:51] <HereticLocke> Thanks
[03:51] <thejhawk> zzxc: I had 3 folders shared on a network, everything worked. I could get into the folders and add/remove files. I could also do the same on my Win PCs
[03:52] <HereticLocke> gp5st: Does that help?
[03:52] <thejhawk> zzxc: And now they broke and I don't know why. Authentication problems for both
[03:52] <thejhawk> zzxc: on the Win side Win 7 is asking for a pass
[03:52] <zzxc> But it is getting the auth page?
[03:52] <thejhawk> zzxc: and Ubuntu is asking the same
[03:52] <Beldar> pgrytdal-2, Better help might be good, I am not a file checker for errors and there may be places to look in this freeze, I just don't know where
[03:52] <thejhawk> I get a diag, on Win 7 asking for a username and password.
[03:52] <gp5st> HereticLocke: well, it's more informative than "something about an so" :)
[03:53] <pgrytdal-2> Beldar Okay. Thank you anyway. At least you tried. =)
[03:53] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash:  Do you see multiple devices under the output tab?
[03:53] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Like I have analog output and digital output on my computer
[03:53] <thejhawk> zzxc: When the software center installed samba it hung on libpam-smbass (did not install it)
[03:53] <thejhawk> zzxc: I did so via apt-get and that made them work before
[03:54] <thejhawk> but I don't know now
[03:54] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: I see HDMI/Display 4, HDMI/Display, Digital Output (buildin) and Analog Output (built in)
[03:54] <gp5st> HereticLocke: from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/error-while-loading-shared-libraries-libstdc-so-5-wrong-elf-class-elfclass64-723830/ does installing 'ia32-libs' help any?
[03:54] <thejhawk> libpam-smbpass was on there
[03:54] <thejhawk> is on there I mean
[03:54] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: That would indicate that it's not aware that your soundcard can output both
[03:54] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: But if you hooked your speakers up on digital and your headphones on analog, it might work
[03:54] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Have to feed and tuck in baby.  Will be back in like 30 mins.
[03:54] <thejhawk> I've had this trouble before and that corrected it. But now seing as how its installed I don't know what the issue is
[03:55] <apb1963> Beldar that's the page I've been looking at... not able to get my scanner working properly... it prints... but xsane can't find it.
[03:55] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: if you don't have digital speakers, though, that's not going to work.  There may be another way to do it--but given that it only shows one analog output device I suspect it doesn't know your card can do them separately.
[03:55] <zzxc> thejhawk: Wait so what is the change. Are you under the new OS on windows/ did you reinstall samba/ or did it just break?
[03:55] <thejhawk> it just broke.
[03:55] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: I have noticed something troubling
[03:55] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: I normally use pavucontrol for sound
[03:55] <thejhawk> zzxc: to trouble shoot I removed/installed samba
[03:55] <HereticLocke> gp5st: package not available
[03:55] <thejhawk> that didn't work
[03:56] <apb1963> beldar: sane-find-scanner finds it, I followed the directions and put the ids in the conf file... no joy....  I'm sure I'm missing something obvious
[03:56] <thejhawk> zzxc: I removed/installed libpam-smbpass
[03:56] <thejhawk> that didn't work either
[03:56] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: In pavucontrol, I get the option to set my built in a analog output+input
[03:56] <zzxc> thejhawk: Did you do a remove or purge?
[03:56] <thejhawk> --purge
[03:56] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Bunt in this sound screen, it doesn't even mention my mic
[03:56] <gp5st> HereticLocke: even after doing an apt-get update? are you on a 64-bit machine?
[03:56] <thejhawk> should I not have?
[03:56] <zzxc> No that was the right option.
[03:56] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Or give the option to set input
[03:56] <Beldar> apb1963, Have you googled the scanner and your release?
[03:57] <zzxc> Purge removes all user files as well (supposely)
[03:57] <thejhawk> zzxc: I just wished it worked
[03:57] <thejhawk> zzxc: not sure what happend
[03:57] <apb1963> Beldar: I don't understand
[03:57] <thejhawk> zzxc: they were working earlier today. I
[03:57] <xsi_> Why zorinOS isn't supported here and I should fight with that offtopic? ZorinOS just uses the same ubuntu kernel, doesn't it? My tryings were crudely interrupted by "we are not abliged"?
[03:57] <zzxc> thejhawk: Yeah I'm trying to set up audio on server. I know what you mean.  Still does not work
[03:57] <apb1963> Beldar: do you mean on the project sane page?  That page won't come up.
[03:58] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: not sure why that would be
[03:58] <thejhawk> zzxc: The only thing I think I can do is reinstall Ubuntu entirely
[03:58] <zzxc> thejhawk: with the samba share after you put in the user and password?
[03:58] <Beldar> apb1963, askubuntu is a good resource. Many time the hardware yhou using IE a scanner or computer or printer and the actual release like 13.04 brings up info, same at askubuntu.
[03:58] <thejhawk> zzxc: because I have no idea and no advance knowledge of samba
[03:58] <zzxc> thejhawk: I would hold off on that until you're completely out of options.
[03:58] <Beldar> your*
[03:58] <zzxc> thejhawk: ehh I've only used it about as much as you honestly.
[03:58] <zzxc> Though it was a different usecase.
[03:59] <thejhawk> zzxc: It asks for a user/pass and I give it one and still asks for one
[03:59] <Beldar> apb1963, if others are having a problem chances are its on the web,
[03:59] <thejhawk> I give it the user pass for my account
[03:59] <gp5st> HereticLocke: from http://askubuntu.com/a/179818 try 'sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libgcc1:i386 gcc-4.6-base:i386 libstdc++5:i386 libstdc++6:i386' what version of ubuntu. should have asked that sooner
[03:59] <zzxc> thejhawk: when you did the reinstall did you tell it which users to allow?
[03:59] <thejhawk> I do the same when Ubuntu asks me for a pass to open a windows share
[03:59] <ubuntu_ashley> Can I restore files from a windows backup to ubuntu?
[04:00] <HereticLocke> gp5st: This all started when I ran sudo MV /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:00] <Beldar> ubuntu_ashley, files of?
[04:00] <ubuntu_ashley> I backed up everything in windows before installing but I can't figure out how to restore the backup
[04:00] <geoffmcc> HereticLocke: if your using 13.10 use  apt-get install gcc-multilib
[04:00] <thejhawk> zzxc: About 30 min ago. And I have not beenin the config at all other than to change the workgroup
[04:00] <HereticLocke> gp5st: Reverse that. xorg.conf first and then xorg.conf.bak
[04:00] <zzxc> Have you restarted your machine since?
[04:00] <thejhawk> I restarted the service
[04:00] <thejhawk> and the name service
[04:00] <thejhawk> both
[04:00] <thejhawk> smbd nmbd
[04:00] <ubuntu_ashley> its a .VHD file
[04:01] <HereticLocke> geoffmcc: Already installed
[04:01] <geekmasterflash> Lothsahn: Thanks for you help, but for my own sanity I think I will buy that usb sound expansion you showed me
[04:01] <Beldar> ubuntu_ashley, This from a windows backup using its tools?
[04:01] <ubuntu_ashley> yes
[04:01] <gp5st> HereticLocke: which version of ubuntu and can you install those packages? xorg.conf touches so much stuff, I won't be able to help you other than saying to switch it back
[04:02] <zzxc> Hmmm: well its acting like it doesn't like the user info you're providing.
[04:02] <gp5st> HereticLocke: the libc6:i386 line, not ia32-libs
[04:02] <HereticLocke> gp5st: 13.10
[04:02] <Beldar> ubuntu_ashley, Not sure other than windows does not read the linux partitions without a driver and that is some old stuff.
[04:02] <gp5st> try the line from the stackoverflow HereticLocke, ia32-libs is apparently for older version of ubuntu
[04:02] <ubuntu_ashley> :(
[04:02] <ubuntu_ashley> it has all my photos and poems
[04:02] <zzxc> thejhawk: I'm kind of clueless on it though. I would try removing and reinstalling it again, and setting the user list up again, but I'm clueless as to what is going wrong.
[04:02] <Beldar> ubuntu_ashley, Load it to a usb or external HD and try
[04:03] <HereticLocke> gp5st: How can I switch it back? The packages are not available
[04:03] <ubuntu_ashley> I have the usb connected it sees the files
[04:03] <ubuntu_ashley> I can't open it though
[04:03] <gp5st> HereticLocke: the xorg.conf file. do the libc6:i386 and company packages install?
[04:03] <apb1963> Beldar: Good idea... sadly, there is only 1 hit for my  12.04 Epson XP-310; and the question was about printing.  I have printing working... it's scanning that is a problem. The link they provide on that page leads to the Epson website... but the page isn't found.
[04:04] <apb1963> oops.  xp-300
[04:04] <Beldar> ubuntu_ashley, If it's made with the windows backup utility, its to just reload through that utility, not open
[04:05] <HereticLocke> gp5st: Already installed
[04:05] <ubuntu_ashley> that just sucks
[04:05] <Beldar> apb1963, I have seen problems with combo printer and scanners, you migh try posting at askubuntu and the ubuntu forums if you get no answer here.
[04:05] <gp5st> HereticLocke: not sure then, you can try to remove and then reïnstall but they prob have tons of things depending on them. Someone else here might know how to force-install something
[04:06] <Beldar> ubuntu_ashley, You might ask in ##widows they would know more on this I would think.
[04:06] <apb1963> Beldar: nvm... I found the epson page.  Thank you for your help!  Hopefully that driver will do the trick.  Time will tell.... very shortly :)
[04:06] <Beldar> ubuntu_ashley, Is this the whole OS saved?
[04:07] <ubuntu_ashley> I dont know
[04:07] <Beldar> ubuntu_ashley, A recovery or install disc has a reloading utility for images.
[04:08] <geoffmcc> ubuntu_ashley: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202571/how-to-mount-a-virtual-hard-disk
[04:08] <ubuntu_ashley> why does my firefox crash every 10 minutes or so
[04:08] <Lothsahn> geekmasterflash: Okay, I hope that works out for you.  I can't guarantee it will. :)
[04:09] <birdsnacks> any idea why a script will run fine from the command line (as ubuntu user) but not on crontab @reboot as the ubuntu user, i can't work it out, i've printed 'whoami' listed the dir, made sure the script goes into the right wd, etc, but i am getting permission denied on accessing the file the shell script (that cron fires) is running (http://dpaste.com/1481982/plain/ output showing the file is there and readable)
[04:10] <birdsnacks> crontab -l @reboot /home/ubuntu/assembly_flight_mearth/sandbox/echo_server/run.sh >> /home/ubuntu/echo_server.log 2>&1
[04:10] <birdsnacks> i wonder if something isn't reading on @reboot
[04:11] <ubuntu_ashley> is there a good book for beginners?
[04:11] <DoverMo> ubuntu_ashley, hard to say. maybe check your plugins + extensions. You can do a clean install with "apt-get purge firefox && rm -rf ~/.mozilla && apt-get install firefox*
[04:11] <zykotick9> birdsnacks: if i where you, i'd check line 26 of /home/ubuntu/echo_server/echo_server.js <-what's that?!
[04:12] <DoverMo> ubuntu_ashley, meant to put " not "*"
[04:12] <ubuntu_ashley> DoverMo, what does that do? lol
[04:12] <birdsnacks> zykotick9: $(which nodemon) $@ ${BASE}/echo_server.js - all parts of this are correct upon printing individually
[04:12] <DoverMo> ubuntu_ashley, it uninstalls, deletes local files, reinstalls
[04:12] <BuntuFuntu> Ubuntu_Ashley, that command will fully delete firefox and then reinstall it.
[04:12] <birdsnacks> and it runs fine if i execute my cron line from the shell as ubuntu
[04:13] <birdsnacks> wonder if eth0 isn't actually up
[04:13] <zykotick9> birdsnacks: ? that's way over my head.  but that's in the error, so it's your biggest lead right now ;)
[04:13] <birdsnacks> i wrote it, it runs fine in debian :\
[04:14] <birdsnacks> can't figure out what resource is missing at @reboot
[04:14] <privacyplease> ubuntu_ashley: Try just deleting extensions from the ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.profile/extensions before removing everything. I couldn't open firefox at all earlier, so I had to do this
[04:15] <MVanDruff> my soundblaster audigy sound card is no longer being detected. anyone know how to fix?
[04:17] <BuntuFuntu> gonna try my new LiveCD brb
[04:19] <birdsnacks> looks like @reboot is a bit of a disaster
[04:19] <chadmandoo> Hey everyone.  I was curious if Expect is still a common technology?
[04:20] <HereticLocke> I have no xorg.conf file
[04:22] <MVanDruff> my soundblaster audigy sound card is no longer being detected. anyone know how to fix?
[04:22] <somsip_> HereticLocke: this is  normal on more recent versions
[04:23] <HereticLocke> Okay thanks
[04:23] <HereticLocke> I can't login. It keeps logging me out
[04:23] <HereticLocke> Won't display my desktop
[04:24] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Can you access a tty? Perhaps try adding another DM , gdm/kdm I'm not sure what your original problem is
[04:25] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: Yeah I can. I've tried those but it still returns me to login. That is just the problem
[04:26] <muteboy> can anyone help me with an ffmpeg job?
[04:26] <somsip_> !anyone | muteboy
[04:28] <muteboy> how do I use ffmpeg to rotate an mp4 90 degrees clockwise, and scale it down to 600px tall?
[04:28] <muteboy> i've searched and found examples, but none seem to work
[04:29] <somsip_> muteboy: you tried -vf "transpose=1" for rotate?
[04:32] <muteboy> just tried it, and the output is the same as the input
[04:32] <somsip_> muteboy: works for me but I'm no ffmpeg expert. Maybe you should try an ffmpeg channel
[04:33] <muteboy> that is an exellent idea!
[04:33] <muteboy> (didn't occur to me there was one)
[04:33] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: I'm not sure the steps you've taken so far, but are you using a propietary driver? Could you dump the Xsession log and upload it?
[04:34] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: I cannot because I cannot login. I am via mobile
[04:35] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Press ctrl + alt + f2 ? You should be able to login if the graphical login screen appears. Unless you really messed something up
[04:35] <HereticLocke> privacy please: I can but no gui
[04:35] <digitalw00t> Anyone know of an audio streaming client.. one that just sits there waiting to have data streamed to it?
[04:36] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: You can use pastebinin after logging in via tty to upload the file
[04:36] <privacyplease> pastebinit, rather
[04:37] <muteboy> digitalw00t: do you mean like https://launchpad.net/audio-recorder
[04:37] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: How? No gui no browser
[04:38] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: ctrl + alt + f2 should bring up a terminal, you do not need a gui
[04:39] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: yes but how do I pastebin?
[04:39] <digitalw00t> Looking for something I can run in a raspberry pi.  Wanted to put it on the back deck and just stream music to it.
[04:39] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: sudo apt-get install pastebinit, it is a command line tool to upload to pastebin
[04:39] <somsip_> digitalw00t: then the raspi forum is probably a better idea seeing how you need something that is built for that
[04:40] <digitalw00t> I haven't decided on a platform.  Raspberry, beaglebone, etc.
[04:40] <somsip_> digitalw00t: still, if it isn't ubuntu, you are asking int he wrong place. This is for ubuntu support
[04:41] <digitalw00t> I'm asking opinions in a linux irc channel.
[04:41] <somsip_> digitalw00t: this is for ubuntu support only...
[04:41] <DoverMo> digitalw00t, there's ##linux
[04:41] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: paste.ubuntu.com/6472253
[04:41] <digitalw00t> Wow.. there's always someone in each place like that.
[04:42] <somsip_> digitalw00t: and when you leave, he'll be gone ;-) IT's just a suport channel. That's all
[04:42] <digitalw00t> I can RUN ubuntu on a beaglebone black.  If you don't have an opinion you don't have to speak.
[04:42] <DoverMo> digitalw00t, always
[04:43] <digitalw00t> I normally use Ubuntu DoverMo, so I figured I would ask here.
[04:44] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Can you explain the steps you took before the problem started?
[04:45] <DoverMo> digitalw00t, try searching 'icecast'
[04:46] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: I sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[04:46] <HereticLocke> Then
[04:46] <digitalw00t> Thanks DoverMo.. started eyeing vlc, but REALLY didn't want to run a gui.  Hate to lose horsepower on a gui if it's not needed.
[04:46] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: Then I sudo apt-get install fglrx
[04:47] <somsip_> digitalw00t: doesn't omxplayer suport streaming on raspi?
[04:47] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: Then mv /etc/X11/xorf.conf /etc/X11/xorf.conf.back Then I restarted and could not login
[04:49] <BuntuFuntu> Greetings from Pear OS 8
[04:49] <BuntuFuntu> :D
[04:49] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: I see, did you try the steps here http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers?
[04:49] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: I have done this myself before, and something like that fixed it
[04:50] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: I think that is where the trouble started
[04:50] <HereticLocke> Should I finish the steps?
[04:51] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: I would concentrate on removing the drivers completely, without reinstalling the proprietary ones until you login again
[04:52] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: The way I understand it, you removed the proprietary drivers, and then you haven't put them back in correctly and it's still using them and has nothing else to fall back to because nothing is setup correctly
[04:54] <blognewb> Hi guys? I did try to verify a file by doing this on the terminal: gpg --verify --with-fingerprint x.html.sig x.html
[04:54] <wheatthin> if they are truly installed, then just run   sudo aticonfig --initial
[04:54] <blognewb> then it printed an RSA Key Id, then what should i do next to check?
[04:55] <blognewb> is it enough that the RSA key id matches or do i have to do any more step?
[04:56] <privacyplease> wheatthin: Would that work with missing shared objects?
[04:57] <wheatthin> nope.. which objects were missing?
[04:57] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: It didn't work. By the way there was no xorg.conf to remove I did as you said :(
[04:59] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Did you remove all of the flgrx? and then restart?
[04:59] <privacyplease> wheatthin: paste.ubuntu.com/6472253
[05:00] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: I don't think so I will try again
[05:00] <C200> Anyone here use Spotify to sync local music to an iPod?
[05:01] <blognewb> Hi guys? I did try to verify a file by doing this on the terminal: gpg --verify --with-fingerprint x.html.sig x.html // then it printed an RSA Key Id, then what should i do next to check? is it enough that the RSA key id matches or do i have to do any more step?
[05:07] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: No it still does not solve the problem
[05:07] <C200> One further question: Does sudo apt-get install spotify-client ring a bell?
[05:07] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Well your answer is in between removing the proprietary drivers completely and getting xorg dependencies working so you can login and maybe reinstall them
[05:07] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Has the Xsession file changed?
[05:08] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: No it has not
[05:10] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Ok, do the steps to reinstall xorg?
[05:10] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Then be sure to reconfigure it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <ziikutv> Hello, I have ASUS Maximus Gene Z mother board with the graphical bios (EFI), I made a partition by decreasing volume of C drive, and converting the unallocated space to a drive H: which i intended to install Ubuntu on. I did this using EaseUS partition manager. BY aplying the changes in the software, i had to reboot windows. As it was rebooting I changed boot order to goto Sandisk usb with iso files in it. When I selected any of the options (try ubunt
[05:13] <ziikutv> Latter is the ISSUE # 2 i am having.
[05:13] <yhusha_> anyone familiar with any apps for ubuntu that do search and replace in every file in a specific directory case sensitive, the TextWrangler app for osx does this.. but that is osx.
[05:14] <somsip_> yhusha_: gui or cli?
[05:14] <privacyplease> yhusha_: I think linux can handle that just fine, perhaps uses the software centre to search for a gui version
[05:15] <wafflejock> yhusha_: sed may serve your purposes... jedit is a nice graphical option for doing regular expression search and replace if that's what you're looking for
[05:15] <MrCleanWithHair> yhusha_: sed
[05:16] <ziikutv> anyone?
[05:16] <ziikutv> can anyonee help me with these issues?
[05:16] <ianorlin> !anyone
[05:17] <ziikutv> Am I allowed to report a question i had?
[05:17] <blognewb> Hi guys? I did try to verify a file by doing this on the terminal: gpg --verify --with-fingerprint x.html.sig x.html // then it printed an RSA Key Id, then what should i do next to check? is it enough that the RSA key id matches or do i have to do any more step?
[05:18] <privacyplease> ziikutv: Your question was truncated it appears.
[05:21] <yhusha_> much appreciated! l8er
[05:22] <blognewb> yhusha_,
[05:22] <ubuntuaddicted> if i install a mainline kernel into my Precise Xubuntu and I am currently running the AMD binary drivers, do I have to reinstall the AMD driver for me to get a display to work?
[05:22] <blognewb> ubuntuaddicted
[05:22] <ubuntuaddicted> blognewb
[05:23] <privacyplease> blognewb: It depends what you are matching it to, it should match the correct signature of the author, I believe.
[05:23] <ziikutv> privacyplease: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472333/ I pasted the question I asked here
[05:24] <blognewb> privacyplease, the next line after i did that was it said the RSA Key ID, then the sender's RSA Key ID matched. But Isn't that a public key? His Public RSA Key ID Matched, is that enough as verification?
[05:24] <blognewb> matched = i checked it manually
[05:28] <privacyplease> blognewb: Well you are importing the signature file and then verifying it with the file you downloaded. The signature or fingerprint is the public key that was used to sign the file with authorship. I'm not an expert though but I think that is how it works.
[05:29] <ziikutv> privacyplease: Got any idea about what to do with that question i asked?
[05:30] <blognewb> The signature or fingerprint is the public key that was used to sign the file with authorship. = so you think it's verified in your opinion, privacyplease ?
[05:30] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: It does not work. :(
[05:30] <privacyplease> blognewb: I think so, best asked in a security channel though to be sure.
[05:31] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: It's hard for me to imagine where you are at in the process. Can you try to get in with failsafe mode?
[05:31] <privacyplease> ziikutv: I am reading your question
[05:31] <HereticLocke> Alright I will yry
[05:31] <HereticLocke> *try
[05:34] <apb1963> Beldar: I did a bunch of different things, I'm not 100% sure which of them did the trick.  The key was to unplug and replug my USB cable.  I suspect, but am not sure that some of the instructions on this page helped, in particular installing the libsane-extras package, but again... not really sure which of the dozen things I did was required other than replugging my cable.  Just thought you might like to know.  Thanks again for the help.
[05:34] <apb1963> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[05:34] <privacyplease> ziikutv: First of all, resizing a partition is a high risk process.
[05:34] <privacyplease> ziikutv: However, did you remove the recovery partition in the process?
[05:35] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: I can't. The screen goes blurry
[05:36] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Could you try using lightdm? Install and make sure it is set to use it? It's a long process to figure out graphic problems :(, especially from my limited memory of past problems.
[05:36] <zzxc> So what is the huge appeal in using rtorrent?
[05:36] <ziikutv> privacyplease: I did not have it
[05:37] <privacyplease> Can you do a sudo startx in a tty and see if it produces a message
[05:37] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Or not because it will probably throw a display mode error?
[05:38] <ziikutv> me?
[05:38] <privacyplease> ziikutv: Ok, well can you get a copy of windows 8 start up repair and fix the corrupt system?
[05:38] <ziikutv> k
[05:39] <privacyplease> ziikutv: Do you have a MBR installed correctly, I'm not sure what you meant by goes in to Power Saving Mode? You've not managed to install linux?
[05:39] <ziikutv> no
[05:39] <privacyplease> ziikutv: You click the install option, how far do you get in the process? The screen goes black?
[05:39] <ziikutv> as soon as the iso boots u
[05:39] <ziikutv> up
[05:40] <ziikutv> and i select any of the option from the grub menu my monitor goes to power saving mode
[05:40] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: lightdm is the default already. Choosing gdm presents me with no login screen at all
[05:40] <ubuntuaddicted> if i install a mainline kernel into my Precise Xubuntu and I am currently running the AMD binary drivers, do I have to reinstall the AMD driver for me to get a display to work?
[05:41] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: sudo startx logs me in with no unity I can see my desktop and files
[05:41] <apb1963> !nomodeset
[05:41] <ziikutv> thnx
[05:41] <ziikutv> i g2g
[05:42] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Can you purge your display managers and reinstall one of them?
[05:43] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Also are there any changes to your Xsession files or other log files
[05:43] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: Okay I will try again  yes
[05:44] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: paste.ubuntu.com/6472373
[05:45] <armenb> hello...I accidentally ran do-release-upgrade on the wrong machine, and now my 12.04.3 LTS system wants up grade to trusty. I'm pretty sure I hit ctrl-c before anything was really upgraded though. How can I reverse this?
[05:50] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: I'm not seeing anything within that log file. Mostly warnings due to the use of sudo on the x server
[05:51] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: I love you. :)
[05:52] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Well, is that good news? or just a moment of madness?
[05:53] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: Good news. :)
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !downgrade | armenb
[05:53] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: Ok great :)
[05:54] <HereticLocke> privacyplease: Thanks for your help
[05:54] <privacyplease> HereticLocke: No problem
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | privacyplease
[05:54] <n72230> hello?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> n72230: what can we do for you?
[05:55] <n72230> Well, I seem to have an issue with the wifi on my PC
[05:55] <privacyplease> Excellent, another cookie for my computer :)
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !details | n72230
[05:56] <n72230> it's running cylon linux 12.04 and I'm using ndiswrapper with the netwg121v2 driver, the connection drops every 5 minutes
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> privacyplease: lol :p
[05:57] <n72230> D: any suggestions?
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> n72230: not sure we can support cylon holdon
[05:57] <n72230> it runs off of Ubuntu 12.04
[05:57] <n72230> Kernel 3.2
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> n72230: normally we can only support official ubuntu versions
[05:58] <n72230> Anything that works with Ubuntu works with Cylon
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> n72230: i know, many other Os run ubuntu based, but have specific channels for support
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> n72230: did you try askbuntu like the website suggested?
[06:00] <n72230> Just help me out :/
[06:01] <n72230> Anyone?
[06:03] <n72230> :/
[06:06] <n72230> That's cool you don't want to help, thanks for wasting my time!
[06:06] <saad_> I'm trying to install gcc on Ubuntu 10.04 I get the following error
[06:06] <saad_> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[06:06] <saad_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:06] <saad_>   g++: Depends: g++-4.4 (>= 4.4.3-1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:06] <saad_>        Depends: gcc-4.4 (>= 4.4.3-1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:06] <saad_>   gcc: Depends: gcc-4.4 (>= 4.4.3-1) but it is not going to be installed
[06:06] <FloodBot1> saad_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> saad_: are you on 10.04  server or desktop?
[06:07] <saad_> how do you check that?
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> saad_: do you have a desktop, or you run all in terminal?
[06:08] <saad_> all in terminal
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> saad_: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[06:08] <unicornjedi>  i need help making my web server accessible to the internet. I want to be able to put my public Ipaddress in firefox and get my webpage
[06:10] <SchrodingersScat> unicornjedi: from a home line? did you port-forward?
[06:11] <unicornjedi> SchrodingersScat, hello. I am on a home-line. I running ubuntu server saucy in a virtualbox. So how do I port-forward>?
[06:11] <rahuldroy> Hi
[06:11] <rahuldroy> Can someone help me with the wireless issue I am having
[06:12] <SchrodingersScat> unicornjedi: normally through your router
[06:13] <unicornjedi> SchrodingersScat, uh so how can I do that?
[06:14] <Jeet-> Hi All
[06:14] <boss> Hello from Alaska
[06:14] <SchrodingersScat> unicornjedi: log into your router and look for port forwarding in the menu, then add port 80 to your machine.
[06:15] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: What is the issue that you are having?
[06:16] <madsailor> unicornjedi, also, beware that you should have security setup before forwarding ports....especially port 80
[06:17] <unicornjedi> madsailor, if I port forward 80 , will that affect all local computers?
[06:17] <unicornjedi> madsailor, or just my computer
[06:18] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Please keep the conversation in the main chat :), I have alot of window activity already :P
[06:18] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | rahuldroy
[06:18] <madsailor> that depends on how you set up your router config
[06:18] <madsailor> you can and will want to forward port 80 only on your computer
[06:19] <rahuldroy> Sorry everyone :(
[06:20] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: It is ok, more people can help you in the main chat so it is better for you too
[06:21] <wachpwnski> Is there a reason I cannot resolve my host name over dns on my local network?
[06:22] <wachpwnski> some of my hostnames I have to hit doing ping hostname.local
[06:22] <rahuldroy> i am currently using Ubuntu 12.04. My wireless chipset is Qualcomm Atheros AR5416. It works perfectly on the live-cd but not after install. I tried ubuntu 13.10 before this with the same result. Ethernet works fine
[06:23] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Could you post the output of dmesg | wlan0 in the command line onto paste.ubuntu.com
[06:24] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: If you interface is wlan0, use ifconfig in the terminal to find out perhaps
[06:25] <privacyplease> wachpwnski: Could you explain a bit more information? So I can get a clearer picture of your issue
[06:25] <wachpwnski> privacyplease: so I used to be able to ping from one host to the other by host name
[06:26] <rahuldroy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472479
[06:26] <wachpwnski> So on my LAN i could do "ping node01" and get a response
[06:26] <wachpwnski> No I get ping: unknown host node01
[06:26] <wachpwnski> but some boxes I can ping with ping node01.local and get a response
[06:27] <wachpwnski> Is this an OS thing or a dns thing from DHCP?
[06:27] <privacyplease> wachpwnski: Did the avahi configuration change?
[06:27] <rahuldroy> My Wireless hardware information - http://paste.ubuntu.com/647248
[06:28] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: The last paste does not exist :(
[06:28] <wachpwnski> privacyplease: not sure, I am using 12.04 LTS
[06:28] <rahuldroy> My Wireless hardware information - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472481 (Take 2)
[06:29] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: also try dmesg | grep wlan0
[06:29] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: I am a little tired so I forgot the grep :)
[06:29] <wachpwnski> privacyplease: is there a way I can refresh with taht?
[06:31] <privacyplease> wachpwnski: I am not entirely sure, the avahi will lookup the host names, part of the settings are in /etc/nsswitch.conf which applies the .local to hostnames
[06:32] <rahuldroy> output of dmesg | grep wlan0 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472486  (Thanks for you help everyone)
[06:32] <privacyplease> wachpwnski: Perhaps if all local machines aren't on the same configuration they aren't communicating correctly
[06:32] <wachpwnski> privacyplease: yah, i have linux mint as a desktop on here
[06:33] <wachpwnski> looks like one of my boxes don't have avihi on it
[06:33] <Adblocker> Hey all. I have a folder that I had to make for a program to create files in....but for some reason the program cannot create it. Someone that understands the software has explained to me that I need to check that I have the right permissions and ownership over the file? Can someone explain to me what I might need to do?
[06:34] <buu> Adblocker: How are you running this program and what is its name?
[06:35] <Adblocker> buu: using terminal, the program is tor
[06:35] <buu> oh, um.
[06:35] <buu> Adblocker: This isn't exactly a subtle and exact solution, but try the command: chmod 777 <foldername>
[06:36] <Adblocker> thanks buu
[06:36] <Adblocker> h.o
[06:36] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Thanks for the information, you are being deauthenticated, I think perhaps it is an issue with the encryption you are using
[06:36] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Have you tried, for a test, to use a basic encryption like WEP and see if that atleast works?
[06:37] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Not for a permanent change, but perhaps a configuration needs to be altered.
[06:37] <Adblocker> buu: didn't work :/
[06:37] <rahuldroy> Yepp, I have tried turning authentication off completely & also tried WEP with no luck
[06:38] <buu> Adblocker: A) what do you mean "didn't work"? Always tell us the exact error message. B) Before that, please paste the *single* line returned by ls -l <foldername> and tell me your username on that computer.
[06:38] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Which ubuntu version are you working with currently, 13.10?
[06:40] <rahuldroy> Ubuntu 12.04.3. The computer is getting its internet from my laptop (internet sharing)
[06:40] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: I see, that is often problematic :)
[06:40] <Adblocker> buu: total 0 is the output. username is servu. the error is, "Error creating directory home/servu/hidden_service/: No such file or directory
[06:41] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: I had tons of issues with that in the past, WEP normally worked using that but not between different ubuntu version or with windows
[06:41] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Are you at university or something?
[06:42] <buu> Adblocker: That error looks like you're missing a leading slash: /home/servu...
[06:43] <rahuldroy> I am a uni student but at home at the moment. I use ubuntu on my laptop fulltime but now I am trying to switch my desktop in my room. Stuck at this problem :'(
[06:44] <Adblocker> buu: I love you
[06:44] <elementary-site4> hi guys! can someone help me install elementary os plz :(
[06:44] <buu> =]
[06:44] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: My advice would be to avoid this approach altogether if possible, it is never stable it was a nightware with ICS for me
[06:44] <buu> elementary-site4: This is #ubuntu
[06:44] <buu> Also its #ubuntu
[06:45] <buu> It is a channel with some number of 'U's in the name
[06:45] <buu> Unlike the word 'elementary' which possesses zero 'U's
[06:45] <elementary-site4> I understand, but someone from the elementary site said ppl here would be willing to help,,,,
[06:45] <balsaq> i am installing a game thru terminal (ubuntu 12.04 LTS) and I found instructions online from a ubuntu member forum...it seemed to be going well...now i am stumped because terimnal is asking me "what direfctory do i want to install the game into"? i don not know the proper way to command terminal and respond?
[06:46] <balsaq> directory*
[06:46] <elementary-site4> so is anyone willing to help?
[06:46] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: However, if you can you would likely need to upgrade your kernel, test different network manager versions, wpa_supplicant versions, everything
[06:46] <rahuldroy> I am only using ICS on my Desktop because of the wireless problem :(, once the wireless is fixed I won't have to do it
[06:46] <balsaq> i chose home  but terminal sais..."cant intall it to the same directory it is in"...
[06:47] <SchrodingersScat> balsaq: /home/balsaq/game-name/ ?
[06:47] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Ok great, so you are not doing ICS through the wireness then? it is through cabling? Perhaps I misunderstood
[06:47] <rahuldroy> how would you upgrade those. I have tried sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:47] <privacyplease> wireless*
[06:47] <balsaq> is that what i am supposed to type in terminal SchrodingersScat ?
[06:47] <rahuldroy> I am doing ICS from my laptop (wireless is working perfectly) to my desktop using Ethernet
[06:47] <SchrodingersScat> balsaq: idk, but making a directory for it to be in might help
[06:48] <balsaq> so i have to make a directory
[06:48] <balsaq> hmmm, never did that
[06:48] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Because the wireless is not working on the Desktop? Correct? and the desktop is 12.04 or 13.10?
[06:49] <balsaq> so how do i make a directory and then command terimanl to finish the installation?
[06:49] <rahuldroy> Desltop is Ubuntu 12.04.3 and Laptop is 13.10.
[06:49] <balsaq> it is right after i type    sudo ./install.sh                                   that the terminal asks me...what directory do i want it in
[06:50] <elementary-site4> I would really appreciate the help guys :(, it saying that I it has a problem installing the grub-efi package into target
[06:51] <balsaq> is a directory a file or was i supposed to have made a partiton for stuff like this when i did my install schmidtm ?
[06:51] <SchrodingersScat> balsaq: idk what you are working with, if you had typed a directory that you had permission to make, it might have made it for you, it is a mystery
[06:52] <buu> balsaq: A directory is a ... folder.. it contains other things like directories and files
[06:52] <buu> balsaq: When it asks you for a place to install, try typing: ~/game
[06:52] <buu> And see what happens
[06:53] <Darryl> Hi everyone
[06:53] <reisio> Darryl: hi
[06:53] <balsaq> ok schmidtm ill try that thank u
[06:54] <Darryl> I am planning to setup a Django production server on Ubuntu. Has anyone setup Django production server?
[06:54] <reisio> Darryl: I'm sure someone has
[06:54] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Ok, do you have the kernel version for the desktop?
[06:54] <babinlonston> Hi , i have a server which was installed with post-fix mail server in VPS, now i can send mail from VPS to any emails, and even i can send mails from any email to vps too, is it possible to use this post-fix to send and receive mails from any other vps which holding applications without installing or configuring post-fix in that vps ?
[06:54] <balsaq> way terminal asks me the question, it leads me to believe there are various terminals for me to put installs? i dont know what a directory is so i dont know how to answer...it is the final step and my install is done
[06:54] <deepblue_> come and join #Kanaan for a test
[06:55] <rahuldroy> Kernel version : 3.5.0-43-generic (64 bit)
[06:55] <balsaq> i mistyped that sch let me try again...does ubuntu already has places that are know as directories ?
[06:56] <balsaq> or is a directory something i have to create when i install a game ?
[06:56] <SchrodingersScat> balsaq: it's just where you want it to place files.  folder/directory/etc.
[06:56] <balsaq> ok here goes
[06:56] <reisio> Darryl: something kind of like http://eshlox.net/en/2012/09/11/nginx-uwsgi-virtualenv-and-django-ubuntu-1204/
[06:56] <balsaq> ill try your idea now
[06:57] <reisio> Darryl: just keep in mind a howto is no substitute for reading the package docs
[06:57] <Darryl> Thanks reisio
[06:57] <gdoteof> i used xmodmap to map capslock to ESC, which is wonderful and i don't know why it took me five years to do it
[06:58] <gdoteof> but i am wondering if there is a way to map shift+capslock to capslock
[06:58] <reisio> gdoteof: :)
[06:58] <gdoteof> or something like that
[06:58] <gdoteof> since like 2 times a year i actually want it
[06:58] <wafflejock> gdoteof: xbindkeys?
[06:58] <reisio> gdoteof: not tab?
[06:58] <Darryl> I would be using Ubuntu 13.10 server for Django because 12.04 does not work well on my old laptop server for some strange reason
[06:59] <gdoteof> reisio: not tab what?
[06:59] <reisio> gdoteof: ESC used to be where TAB is these days
[06:59] <gdoteof> i use tab all the time; i am happy to keep it the same
[06:59] <Darryl> I think i should give 12.04.3 a try before trying 13.10 :D
[07:00] <ianorlin> !tab
[07:00] <reisio> ...
[07:00] <gdoteof> reisio: am i missing a point of yours?
[07:00] <reisio> I don't think so, no
[07:00] <elementary-site4> can someone help me install grub?
[07:00] <reisio> elementary-site4: what's the trouble
[07:00] <Romance> Hello, i used another partition (ntfs) as my download default directory for firefox, but whenever i want to delete some of the files, it wont move to trash but delete it immediately, how do i fix it to move to trash first?
[07:01] <wafflejock> Darryl: honestly 13.10 has been better on my system
[07:01] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: Ok, if you had previous kernel versions work for you, then select a previous kernel at grub. Otherwise, the only option is an upgrade really that I can see would be useful
[07:01] <reisio> Romance: how're you deleting?
[07:01] <wafflejock> Darryl: I don't normally recommend going up to the cutting edge but in my case it's worked out pretty darn well.. using Kubuntu
[07:01] <Romance> reisio: right click, move to trash
[07:01] <elementary-site4> Reisio: I am attempting to install elementary os on my computer, but the installer says cannot install grub-efi package to target
[07:02] <reisio> Romance: mmm, well if it's another FS, it'd actually be copying the data to trash
[07:02] <reisio> Romance: you sure you want that?
[07:02] <gdoteof> okay i got xbindkeys; are you suggesting i basically bind something to a script that turns off my capslock->esc binding? or can i do smething else
[07:02] <Darryl> I will give 13.10 a try then. older version of Ubuntu gave kernel panic on long run on my old system :(
[07:02] <privacyplease> rahuldroy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472561/
[07:02] <Romance> reisio: of course, its my safe bet to restore something if i deleted wrong files
[07:03] <reisio> Romance: so this is... nautilus?
[07:03] <Romance> reisio: yes? ubuntu 12.04 gnome
[07:04] <elementary-site4> Would there be any way to install grub to a different partition?
[07:04] <elementary-site4> its an uefi problem i guess
[07:04] <wafflejock> gdoteof: sorry not sure I understand the issue entirely... xbindkeys will let you setup key bindings that don't ordinarily work through the key mapping settings but I'm not sure I understand your issue
[07:04] <Romance> elementary-site4: grub is supposedly to be always in /dev/sda
[07:05] <reisio> well, no grub can be installed to a partition
[07:05] <elementary-site4> It's trying to install it there, but I don't think it can :C
[07:05] <reisio> it's just ordinarily not
[07:05] <gdoteof> wafflejock: well i have 2 issues.  i used xmodmap to map Caps to escape; which works to hit escape but actually still turns caps on which is really annoying; and 2) if 1. wasn't an issue i would like to have some way to still turn on capslock
[07:05] <gdoteof> wafflejock: like, shift+capslock
[07:05] <gdoteof> or ctrl+capslock
[07:05] <reisio> Romance: that does sound like a bug, so despite being able to fix it yourself, you should probably first just see what upstream thinks about it
[07:06] <reisio> Romance: it may just be a pref, though :)
[07:06] <gdoteof> wafflejock: it appears xbindkeys is primarily a way to bind keys to commands; so i was wondering if it was being suggested that i write a command that can turn on and off capslock; then bind a key to that
[07:06] <gdoteof> or if there is some more direct way
[07:06] <Romance> reisio: i dont know, maybe i set fstab incorrectly, would it effect it?
[07:07] <reisio> Romance: no
[07:07] <reisio> it's a bug for a few reasons
[07:07] <reisio> it says "move" and does not move
[07:07] <Romance> yeah
[07:07] <rahuldroy> thanks for that , ill try it out now
[07:07] <reisio> it also is a different behavior depending on FS
[07:07] <reisio> for one it moves, for one it deletes
[07:07] <reisio> now they may have done it on purpose, but it's still a bug :p
[07:08] <wafflejock> gdoteof: I've used xbindkeys to setup key bindings for the keypad in kubuntu to run system commands... it may also help to remap keys but it sounds like that's what you're using xmodmap for already so not sure how it'll come into play tehre
[07:08] <Romance> reisio: is there somthing i can do to at least "view" the deleted files
[07:08] <wafflejock> gdoteof: as you said xbindkeys basically allows you to run some command when a key or key combo is hit though so it may still come in handy but not sure exactly how to apply it to your situation
[07:08] <reisio> Romance: that's involved, did you lose some important files?
[07:09] <Romance> reisio: not really, just wanna try to find a way
[07:09] <reisio> Romance: well that's another matter :p
[07:10] <reisio> Romance: as to the original, do you see something about 'behavior' in the nautilus prefs?
[07:10] <gdoteof> okay; well maybe someone can help me understand why caps lock now maps to capslock and escape key
[07:10] <RagBal> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome 3 and on my secondary monitor I have this small area in the right where I can't mouse-click or scroll, any idea what could be causing this?
[07:10] <gdoteof> pressed seemingly simultaneously
[07:10] <reisio> Romance: oh nevermind
[07:12] <Romance> reisio: what kind of behavior, oh but when i `ls` in the terminal, it highlights them green which mean they are all readable writeable and executable no matter what files are they
[07:12] <reisio> Romance: ...huh?
[07:12] <Romance> reisio: yeah i was like 'huh?' too, i dont know why its like that
[07:14] <nixm> hello i have my windows vista disk for installation i am running ubuntu 13.10 and i installed virtual box i want to install the vista in he virtual machine how do i create an ISO of my vista disk to the drive or can i install it from the disk?
[07:15] <privacyplease> nixm: I think you can officially download the vista iso from the net
[07:16] <nixm> i have the real disk
[07:16] <nixm> its in my drive
[07:16] <munz> nixm: just connect the optical disk in your settings for the vbox
[07:16] <reisio> nixm: 'install it from the disk?' yes
[07:20] <helmut_> hi
[07:21] <gothmasterflash> I have a co-worker gifting me a 1.2 Ghz SPARC desktop (dual processors) from Sun. Is 10.04 worth installing at this point, or should I just stick with Solaris?
[07:21] <nixm> munz thanks got it
[07:21] <nixm> reisio thank you
[07:22] <munz> sweet!
[07:23] <reisio> gothmasterflash: solaris is deader than disco
[07:23] <gothmasterflash> reisio, True, but 10.04 is older than dirt. Even other linux distros have nothing but old libs for SPARC as far as I can see
[07:24] <reisio> gothmasterflash: the arch is pretty dead, too :)
[07:25] <gothmasterflash> reisio, Still sees some use in server rooms, but yes.
[07:25] <gothmasterflash> reisio, I think that is why he's just giving it away
[07:25] <kcj> Hello. I'm getting "Requires installation of untrusted packages" whenever I try to install something from the Software Center. Could anybody help please?
[07:26] <wafflejock> I have SPARC NAS :(
[07:26] <gothmasterflash> kcj, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:26] <gothmasterflash> wafflejock, That's basically what I plan to do with it. What are you running on it?
[07:26] <wafflejock> only 200Mhz too so building anything on it is a marathon
[07:26] <kcj> gothmasterflash: Already have restricted extras install.
[07:27] <wafflejock> It's a readynas duo mostly basic stuff just have some custom config for rsync
[07:27] <wafflejock> it works fine for what it does, backup and RAID 1, not a completely custom setup though
[07:27] <reisio> well the hardware you can't do anything about
[07:27] <wafflejock> it's OS is sarge
[07:28] <reisio> but if you use something other than solaris, you _can_ have modern software
[07:28] <xangua> kcj: it's better when you explain further and pastebin error messages so you don't get random asnwers like 'install extras' :)
[07:28] <dinosrule> kcj: does sudo apt-get update help at all?
[07:28] <xangua> and that :)
[07:29] <munz> kcj: near the bottom of the updates you will find some 3rd party app you installed and it is causing it
[07:29] <munz> you can unselect it, not sure another solution
[07:29] <kcj> Can't really pastebin a dialog box but I can screencap.
[07:29] <munz> spotify has done it to me
[07:31] <kcj> dinosrule, munz: Here's what apt-get update spits out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472643/
[07:32] <gothmasterflash> kcj, Odd
[07:32] <wafflejock> gothmasterflash: this is the output of my uname -a Linux NETGEARNAS <IP_ADDRESS>ReadyNAS #1 Wed Jun 20 20:08:20 PDT 2012 padre unknown and here's my sources.list on the box, beyond that I can't really tell you much  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6472647/
[07:32] <gothmasterflash> Thanks wafflejock
[07:32] <kcj> gothmasterflash: Yes.
[07:33] <xangua> !gpgerr | kcj just add the standard ubuntu keys
[07:34] <elementary-site4> can someone help me install Ubuntu 13.04?
[07:34] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Which part has you stuck?
[07:34] <liamz> Hey all, I have a question relating to sandboxing of apps. My problem is that occasionally I will run an app that will take up all available system resources and crash the Unity shell. Is there a way of sandboxing programs so they don't crash Unity? I was thinking maybe using ulimit +/ renice
[07:34] <munz> kcj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89198/the-following-signatures-were-invalid
[07:34] <elementary-site4> I put the iso onto the usb and then booted it up, and slected install ubuntu, but after that i get a black screen and nothing happens
[07:35] <liamz> Question on SE here, not much discussion though http://askubuntu.com/questions/372335/is-there-a-way-of-sandboxing-applications-so-when-they-fail-they-dont-crash-ubu
[07:35] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, How did you create the boot usb, exactly?
[07:35] <elementary-site4> I used usb creator
[07:35] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, In ubuntu?
[07:35] <elementary-site4> yes sir
[07:35] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Did you remember to set the persistence?
[07:36] <elementary-site4> I'm not sure what that means
[07:36] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, in usb creator, this is an option that asks you to select how much space you want to reserve for persistence
[07:37] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, I had to set it manually myself, otherwise I would get the same problem you did on USB boot
[07:37] <elementary-site4> oh its set to to 1gb it seems
[07:37] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, How big is the usb device?
[07:37] <elementary-site4> 8gb
[07:37] <grendal_prime> is there a way to create a desktop shortcut to a remina entry?
[07:38] <grendal_prime> remmina that is
[07:38] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, How big the iso?
[07:38] <elementary-site4> roughly 800 mb
[07:38] <elementary-site4> 883 mb to be exact
[07:38] <elementary-site4> I actually had it to discard on shutdown
[07:39] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Yeah, I would recreate the boot usb
[07:39] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash should i change that?
[07:39] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash: okay
[07:39] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, And make sure to change the reserved space to it's max
[07:39] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash could this possibly be an ueif problem?
[07:39] <munz> grendal_prime: i think so
[07:40] <munz> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Remmina
[07:40] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Not likely. the image you are using should have UEFI capabilities
[07:40] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Unless you are using an old image?
[07:41] <munz> remmina -c ~/.remmina/file-name.remmina
[07:41] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash I am using the 13.04 image
[07:41] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, That should be fine.
[07:41] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, are you dual booting?
[07:41] <elementary-site4> yes sir
[07:41] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, What are the installed OSes?
[07:42] <elementary-site4> Windows 8 only so far
[07:42] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Yikes.
[07:42] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash yes :'(
[07:42] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, I have had nothing but nightmares with trying to dual boot with win8
[07:42] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash i need to keep windows 8 however to keep my warranty alive
[07:42] <elementary-site4> :(
[07:43] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash did you manage to do it?
[07:43] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, You're probably breaking the warranty trying to install Linux.
[07:43] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Yes, but not until after learning the hard way that GPT is difficult and can brick your disc
[07:44] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash ur scaring me 0.0
[07:44] <elementary-site4> curse u microsoft
[07:44] <elementary-site4> T>T
[07:45] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, My warranty was voided when I installed Linux. Best Buy are nazis like that.
[07:45] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Which is why I don't buy pre-build PCs
[07:45] <grendal_prime> munz,  ya that does not seem to do what i want
[07:45] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Now I just build my own and each piece has it's own warranty
[07:45] <elementary-site4>  gothmasterflash if i keep the windows partitions it makes it easy to erase any evidence of linux ;3
[07:46] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, http://apcmag.com/how-to-dual-boot-windows-8-and-linux.htm
[07:46] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, This will probably take you were you want to go
[07:46] <munz> sweet!
[07:46] <munz> er not..
[07:46] <munz> misread lol
[07:47] <elementary-site4> I saw that guide and was confused on how to install the grub
[07:47] <elementary-site4> :C
[07:48] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, The win8 tool they are showing tells you how
[07:48] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Step Three: Chain Load Grub
[07:48] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, They are just dropping down menus
[07:49] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Easy as windows, I guess.
[07:49] <elementary-site4> that doesnt install grub however
[07:49] <elementary-site4> only makes a menu for it
[07:49] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, I think you need to read it again
[07:50] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, the step one: Installation order is just telling you Windows first.
[07:50] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, And that when you install linux, be sure to make /boot partition to throw grub on
[07:51] <elementary-site4> yes I understand that
[07:51] <elementary-site4> which is why i said I not sure how to create partitions well
[07:51] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, The graphic interface is pretty good on that iso
[07:51] <elementary-site4> I usually use the install alongside windows 8 option
[07:51] <elementary-site4> and it does it for me
[07:51] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Don't do that since you need to create a special partition
[07:52] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Instead select the option to create your own partition
[07:52] <elementary-site4> Yes and then I should create an ext4 swap and boot partition correct?
[07:52] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, How much memory do you have?
[07:52] <elementary-site4> 150gb
[07:53] <elementary-site4> I can allocate more though
[07:53] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, Memory, not storage
[07:53] <elementary-site4> ohh
[07:53] <elementary-site4> 8gb
[07:53] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, you probably don't need swap
[07:53] <elementary-site4> so only ext4 and boot?
[07:53] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, first I'd create /boot
[07:53] <Jordan_U> elementary-site4: You don't need a separate /boot/.
[07:54] <gothmasterflash> Jordan_U, He does if he wants to use the windows 8 OS loader
[07:54] <elementary-site4> so I can just make one partition for boot and select install?
[07:54] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, No, you'll also need /
[07:54] <Jordan_U> gothmasterflash: Your statement doesn't make sense. Please explain what you mean.
[07:55] <gothmasterflash> Jordan_U, If he wants to use grub boot loader, that's fine. However, he wants to avoid putting it on the MBR
[07:55] <gothmasterflash> Jordan_U, So that win8's boot loader can be used
[07:56] <Jovial> meaning there will be one partiotion for /boot and one for / (main dir) :)
[07:56] <Jovial> right ?
[07:56] <gothmasterflash> Jovial, That's the idea.
[07:57] <Jordan_U> gothmasterflash: 1: Grub's boot sector should go in the MBR, or nowhere (if needed, a more reliable method of using a file loaded by BCD can be used) 2: Installing grub's boot sector to a partition (still not recomended) does not require a separate /boot/ partition.
[07:57] <kcj> xangua: How do I find the key for the repo that's failing?
[07:57] <elementary-site4>   gothmasterflash ohh okay I understand now. However I have never created a parition for boot before. how many space should i allocate for it?
[07:57] <Jordan_U> elementary-site4: Do not create a separate /boot/ partition.
[07:58] <xangua> (01:33:22) ubottu: kcj just add the standard ubuntu keys: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> » reading helps
[07:58] <Jovial> its a good practice to have a /boot partition - 300-500mb so if something go wrong you can boot somekind of recovery options in that partition :)
[07:58] <kcj> I have read it.
[07:58] <Jovial> atleast that's what they say in the books :)
[07:59] <elementary-site4> I must read these books. x3
[07:59] <kcj> "Find the GPG keyword for the repository" the one that won't auth right?
[07:59] <kcj> xangua: ^
[07:59] <elementary-site4> wait jordan is saying to not create two seperate ones
[07:59] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, You may not want to create a /boot/ partition
[07:59] <gothmasterflash> elementary-site4, I think Jordan is correct.
[08:00] <kcj> I didn't come here to be patronised thanks.
[08:00] <Jordan_U> elementary-site4: Also, going back to swap, do you want to be able to suspend to disk (hibernate)?
[08:00] <elementary-site4>  Jordan_U  yes that would be very helpful sir
[08:01] <Jordan_U> elementary-site4: Then you need either a swap partition or a swap file, and it should be the same size as your available RAM or larger.
[08:01] <gothmasterflash> Jordan_U,  0_0
[08:01] <gothmasterflash> Jordan_U, You want him to create 8 gigs of swap space?
[08:02] <Jordan_U> gothmasterflash: If they want to be able to suspend to disk while all 8 GiB of their available RAM is in use (for more than cache), then they will need 8 GiB of swap space to hold that data.
[08:03] <elementary-site4> Jordan_U: So from what I understand I only need to create a 142 gb of ext4 / and then 8gb of swap?
[08:03] <elementary-site4>  Jordan_U  a guide i was reading earlier said to make 130 of ext4 and the rest swap
[08:07] <jonascj> Hi all. I've installed a package (Xmonad 0.11) via "dpkg -i" and a .deb file downloaded from launchpad. Another version of that software (xmonad) was already installed (xmonad 0.10) via apt-get. I would like to go back to this previous version (xmonad 0.10).
[08:07] <jonascj> How to?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> elementary-site4: A 142 GiB root partition using ext4 and an 8 GiB swap partition makes sense, yes. Using 20 GiB for swap though is much more than needed, the only time you would need that is if you had programs allocating so much that they needed 28 GiB (highly unlikely, and would indicate something being very broken already), or if you needed to suspend to disk while programs were allocating 12 GiB, (still unlikely).
[08:09] <dissolve> can anyone help me with some basic eigrp setup?
[08:09] <reisio> dissolve: eigrp?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> dissolve: You're using Ubuntu for a router?
[08:09] <dissolve> lol
[08:09] <elementary-site4>  Jordan_U  thank you so much sir!!
[08:09] <dissolve> no but if i ask in there the cisco guys laugh and dont answer
[08:10] <dissolve> they are too smart to answer simple questions
[08:10] <_joey> what's a good djvu plugin for chromium and firefox? Thanks!
[08:12] <Jordan_U> elementary-site4: You're welcome.
[08:12] <elementary-site4>  Jordan_U can you help me with one more problem
[08:13] <shamskabra> Hello guys, it may sounds crazy, I had beet trying for 8 days 14-15 hours a day, setting up my computer for Ubuntu 12.04 with Nvidia GeForce 640 with CUDA for supporting GPU Cycle Rendering on Intel i7 machine. All the information I get on forum is so jumbled for newbie like me. I did try many times and succeeded but each time I try to improve following the instruction I messed up with the
[08:13] <shamskabra> whole setup then start over. I don’t want anything just to run my Nvidia, CUDA , along with Blender 2.69 if any expert out there please help, now I have fresh installed Ubuntu.
[08:13] <elementary-site4>  Jordan_U when i boot the iso, and select install ubuntu, nothing comes up except a black screen
[08:13] <elementary-site4> I just finished reinstalling the os to make sure it wasnt corrupt also
[08:14] <dissolve> download YUMI and its so much easier for installing any OS
[08:14] <ikonia> shamskabra: I'd be checkoing a lot of things at a basic level first, such as does your card/the nvidia drivers you are using support enabling CUDA external processing, look at if blender is actually built to be able to take use of this, I'd check those two important facts before doing anything else
[08:14] <jonascj>  /last jonascj 10
[08:15] <_root_> how could I find out how many network card NIC i have and what are thier names?
[08:15] <Jovial> _root_ ifconfig  .... ?