[03:41] <AWOSDev> Hello.  I have a CD with data and audio, and I can access neither.  When I try and run a CD player it says "no audio disc or you have no permissions".  When I mount it, it does mount but it shows nothing when I ls.  What can I do to fix it?
[03:41] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: I'm sorry, there's just nothing we can offer you that isn't illegal for you. No solution exists because of DRM. = /
[03:41] <nkayhan> Whenever I play a video that's more than like aminuit long, all I see is grey with a statis bar.  Any ideas?
[03:41] <lenny> anyone know their way around initNG?
[03:41] <byteshack> some_guy: glx :)
[03:41] <bieb> Mega.. there are better ways than iTunes
[03:41] <blackgraz> ok
[03:41] <Megaqwerty> ArrenLex: Argh
[03:41] <ivx> arrenlex i am trying to play an avi, i couldn't play it so i installed the w32codecs. it still won't play
[03:41] <blackgraz> I have a problem with GRUB
[03:41] <ArrenLex> ivx: what media player?
[03:42] <nkayhan> any ideas?
[03:42] <some_guy> Can GLX run with any grafix card?
[03:42] <rdouglas> home depot has Grub remover... lol
[03:42] <mikm[laptop] > some_guy no
[03:42] <_aasics_> some_guy, I have it running on intel graphics
[03:42] <some_guy> ATI 9200?
[03:43] <blackgraz> hahah
[03:43] <blackgraz> well
[03:43] <ivx> arrenlex it just says media play. it came installed by default
[03:43] <blackgraz> GRUB locks up on me
[03:43] <rdouglas> :-)
[03:43] <bieb> ok.. I have a permissions question...
[03:43] <Megaqwerty> bieb: I know, but my Sister gets all her stuff from there, and it is all too convenient for her due to the fact that she has an iPod, so yeah. (She uses Windows) I haven't been able to find a decent Content Protection program for linux, so he won't let me install Ubuntu on her computer
[03:43] <blackgraz> now when i boot from the CD and tell the CD boot my HD it loads
[03:43] <ArrenLex> ivx: that's probably VLC. Ubuntu compiled it so that it doesn't support w32codecs AFAIK. You'll need to install something else.
[03:43] <blackgraz> whats up?
[03:43] <Megaqwerty> if anyone has any suggestions on a Content Protection program though...I'd be open to suggestions
[03:44] <ivx> arrenlex alright i'll see what happens. thanks
[03:44] <Seeker2599> can ubuntu run rpms?
[03:44] <Megaqwerty> (Content Protection=Parental Controls)
[03:44] <bieb> I have a small webserver running Ubuntu, I have been editing the pages directly on the server with pico.. no problems...
[03:44] <GhostFreeman> What are the prospects of IceWeasel officially taking over Firefox in the releases following Edgy?
[03:44] <ArrenLex> Megaqwerty: why is your sister interested in parental controls? o_O
[03:44] <RogerRabb> Seeker2599, no, but you can use alien to convert an rpm to deb
[03:44] <Seeker2599> !alien
[03:44] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[03:44] <sig> whats the command to see what channels someone is in?
[03:44] <ArrenLex>  /whois, sig?
[03:45] <Megaqwerty> ArrenLex: no she isn't, my dad won't let me give her linux unless he can install them on Ubuntu
[03:45] <k1d> sudo alien package_file.rpm
[03:45] <bieb> I have Dreamweaver on my work PC and want to be able to ftp the updates from work.. what group should I add the regular user to? the web stuff is owned by root:root
[03:45] <ArrenLex> Ouch.
[03:45] <GhostFreeman> if your sister (or I assume parent) wants to use content protection, then she's probably not being a decent sister or parent
[03:45] <Seeker2599> ty k1d
[03:45] <lw> cant log into system using another account , anybody can help me???0000
[03:45] <Megaqwerty> ArrenLex: indeed
[03:45] <Megaqwerty> lol
[03:46] <Megaqwerty> it's mostly so we don't accidentally click a misleading link in google that would take us to a porn site
[03:46] <k1d> u r welcome
[03:46] <GhostFreeman> that's why you ask in IRC if this link is going to lead you to Last Measure
[03:46] <GhostFreeman> =)
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> ?
[03:47] <kitche> Megaqwerty: there is a few programs that dow hat you want
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> kitche: are they in the repos?
[03:47] <krazykit> Megaqwerty: content protection?  squid proxy + setup
[03:47] <AWOSDev> Megaqwerty, I read an article online about Squid.
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> ah, thanks
[03:47] <bieb> someone mentioned adding the regular user to the "wheel" group
[03:47] <Megaqwerty> anywho, I need to work, so thanks for all your help! bye.
[03:49] <kjon> I have a question. Is there a way to use the ACPI features of a non-original toshiba laptop? I got one, but it has a phoenix bios, so it spits toshiba_acpi out and I got no advanced acpi support.
[03:50] <krazykit> kjon: it should have the BIOS features that any other semi-decent BIOS has.
[03:50] <sethk> anybody have a URL about the nvidia security problem in the channel subject?
[03:50] <sethk> sorry, channel topic is the correct word
[03:50] <krazykit> sethk: eh... it was on slashdot recently
[03:51] <krazykit> sethk: not really an issue unless you're exporting X-sessions to untrusted users.
[03:51] <sethk> krazykit, hmm, I'm not sure I believe it, if it's only on slashdot  :)
[03:51] <kjon> krazykit: sure, but I've got no hotkeys nor good battery performance.
[03:51] <sethk> krazykit, I only export sessions to myself at work, so I'm probably safe.  :)
[03:51] <kjon> without toshiba utilities, my machine drains its battery in 1:30 hrs.
[03:51] <Pierre> sethk: http://download2.rapid7.com/r7-0025/
[03:52] <sethk> Pierre, thanks
[03:53] <sethk> hmm., says it's been around since 2004.  That doesn't really prove anything but it probably isn't virulent.
[03:53] <bieb> ok.. I have a permissions question...
[03:53] <bieb> I have a small webserver running Ubuntu, I have been editing the pages directly on the server with pico.. no problems...
[03:53] <bieb> I have Dreamweaver on my work PC and want to be able to ftp the updates from work.. what group should I add the regular user to? the web stuff is owned by root:root
[03:54] <bieb> someone mentioned adding the regular user to the "wheel" group
[03:54] <Jeaton> what app is that for X that pretty much resembles MS Office
[03:54] <Jeaton> well, not resemble
[03:54] <Jeaton> but it's more of a replacement
[03:54] <Seeker2599> does ubuntu come with alien installed?
[03:55] <bieb> Jeaton... Open Office or Star Office
[03:55] <sethk> Seeker2599, it doesn't come with anything installed.  It comes on a cd as a set of packages
[03:55] <Jeaton> Open Office, that's it
[03:55] <k1d> no, seeker2599
[03:55] <sethk> Seeker2599, whether it is installed depends on which install options you choose.
[03:55] <bieb> what is alien?
[03:56] <sethk> bieb, a thing that lets you use rpm packages.
[03:56] <GhostFreeman> !alien
[03:56] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[03:56] <sethk> bieb, dangerous
[03:56] <Seeker2599> can i get alien from the add/remove programs?
[03:56] <k1d> u can
[03:56] <sethk> Seeker2599, probably.  synaptic has better searching
[03:56] <ruda> hey n00bs
[03:56] <bieb> gotcha
[03:56] <Seeker2599> whats synaptic?
[03:56] <ruda> Seeker2599: is what you got in your brain
[03:57] <sethk> Seeker2599, a front end for the package manager
[03:58] <starsky> synaptic != alien ; alien is from slacker's world, synaptic is from human world. :)
[03:58] <host`> what's a good mp3 player for linux?
[03:58] <krazykit> ruda: no, those are synapses
[03:58] <fatbrain> !libpng
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libpng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <starsky> !vlc
[03:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:58] <sethk> krazykit, his may be missing.
[03:58] <fatbrain> Why can't I install the libpng / libpng-dev package?
[03:58] <kitche> host` umm it depends on your taste really
[03:59] <ruda> fatbrain: because something is wrong
[03:59] <fatbrain> ruda: indeeds
[03:59] <pike_> host`: xmms is my choice usually
[03:59] <host`> I want something that you don't have to do a lot of clicking to edit playlists, unlike mplayer
[03:59] <ruda> fatbrain: what have you tried?
[03:59] <fatbrain> cies (manly)
[03:59] <fatbrain> apt-get install lilbpng-dev
[03:59] <fatbrain> (sudo ofc)
[03:59] <host`> I was about to get xmms
[04:00] <krazykit> host`: amarok, maybe?
[04:00] <ruda> fatbrain: and what do you got?
[04:00] <kitche> host` amarok or banshee
[04:00] <fatbrain> I did toy with the sources.list a couple of days ago...
[04:00] <fatbrain> hrm...
[04:00] <lw> exaile
[04:00] <pike_> host`: amarok might be a little better then..
[04:00] <ruda> fatbrain: so rollback your souce.list , apt-get update and then try to install again
[04:01] <kitche> host`: if you have gnome I would use banshee
[04:01] <fatbrain> will try that, thanks
[04:01] <fatbrain> worked now
[04:01] <timfrost> !info libpng3
[04:01] <fatbrain> thanks
[04:01] <ubotu> libpng3: PNG library - runtime. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.8rel-5 (dapper), package size 0 kB, installed size 24 kB
[04:03] <marcusgrazette> hi, i'm having problems with swapon -a command.
[04:04] <richie> hello does anyone know the correct plugins i should get to run m4a audio files?
[04:04] <marcusgrazette> getting the error message "swapon: /dev/hda4: Operation not permitted"
[04:04] <krazykit> richie: faad, i think.
[04:04] <sheriff> is there anybody who can help me about Java
[04:04] <pike_> marcusgrazette: thats 'sudo swapon -a' right?
[04:04] <ruda> marcusgrazette: try to reset the swap partition
[04:04] <kitche> sheriff: yes what is wrong exactly
[04:04] <richie> krazykit: cheers.
[04:04] <mphill> when gdm starts it goes into a out sync error on the screen, I do a control+alt+back space then it works.  any idea on how to fix it? so i don't have to do that?
[04:04] <marcusgrazette> how do i reset the partition?
[04:05] <ruda> marcusgrazette: sudo mkswap /dev/hda4 (be sure)
[04:05] <ruda> marcusgrazette: and then sync
[04:05] <ruda> marcusgrazette: and after , try to activate again
[04:05] <sheriff> kitche: i just downloaded java creator and installed it was working well but now it starts without any menu or screen
[04:05] <k1d>
[04:05] <[1] BigBadHoss> hey how do i get tftpd to work with ubuntu server 6.06
[04:05] <sethk> mphill, the default resolution is too high for your monitor
[04:06] <sethk> mphill, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and remove it.
[04:06] <Abst> Anyone know where to obtain libmono1.0-cil
[04:06] <marcusgrazette> ruda: thanks! that worked great
[04:06] <Elohimus> I'm having issues configuring my xorg. I have a radeon 9200, I've installed the fglrx driver but now I'm getting the error: "no devices detected"
[04:06] <marcusgrazette> ruda: i've been trying to figure out how to do that for 2 days
[04:06] <kitche> sheriff you mean Sun Java Studio Creator right?
[04:06] <ruda> marcusgrazette: cool
[04:06] <sheriff> kitche : well after i had installed java installed beryl.. could it be the problem
[04:06] <wastrel> Elohimus:  i believe the open source driver supports 3d for the 9200
[04:06] <sheriff> kitche : yeah
[04:06] <sethk> Abst, try the libmono and libmono-dev packages, if you haven't already
[04:06] <spinz8r> Hv this msg" hda/dev4 mounted 32 times without being checked, checked forced. and then countdowntimer. Boot normally after that. Is this normal?
[04:07] <sethk> spinz8r, yes.  you can override it
[04:07] <Abst> !info libmono
[04:07] <ubotu> Package libmono does not exist in any distro I know
[04:07] <Abst> >_>
[04:07] <sethk> spinz8r, tune2fs can be used to set the check interval, or turn it off completely
[04:07] <kitche> sheriff: might be due to beryl but what do you see on the screen when Creator loads exactly?
[04:07] <sethk> spinz8r, turning it off completely is not recommended, but you may want to disable the auto check so you can decide when to take the time hit.
[04:07] <sheriff> kitche : just an empty form
[04:08] <ruda> au revoir
[04:08] <sethk> Sherdog, try file/new, IIRC
 tks. how do i override it? or shall i leave it as it?
[04:08] <sethk> Sherdog, sorry, tab completion
[04:08] <sheriff> kitche : it says it loads everything but nothing comes up except an empty form
[04:08] <sethk> sheriff, , sorry, tab completion
[04:08] <argoe> I'm a linux noob...when Ubuntu says I have updates to linux-headers and linux-image and that stuff...is it safe to install or is it going to blow up my system?  Seems like I did that once some time ago and ended up reformatting.
[04:08] <sethk> sheriff, , sorry, tab completion
[04:08] <kitche> sheriff: yeah probably a beryl problem
[04:08] <sethk> sheriff, , try file/new, IIRC
[04:08] <sethk> got it.  :)
[04:08] <MTecknology> What GDM was it that gives you a desktop like a cube that you can rotate?
[04:09] <Elohimus> wastrel: this tutorial I'm reading says to use the fglrx.
[04:09] <sethk> argoe, not completely safe, no.
[04:09] <kitche> sethk: kinda hard to do that with a menubar isn't it
[04:09] <kitche> without/with
[04:09] <sethk> kitche, with a menu bar?  do you mean without a menu bar?
[04:09] <Sherdog> sethk np pal :)
[04:09] <argoe> sethk: thanks.  I thought so.  So it's ok to just let those be, right?
[04:09] <sethk> kitche, and, no, it isn't, because there are shortcuts
[04:09] <sethk> argoe, right
[04:09] <Elohimus> It says no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:10:0) found
[04:09] <argoe> sethk: thank you very much
[04:09] <sethk> argoe, I always wait a few days and let someone else be the guinnea pig  :)
[04:09] <sheriff> sethk : what \ sorry i didnt understand what you said
[04:09] <marcusgrazette> also, i'm having a problem backing up some data to dvdr. i'm moving from windows, and want to backup my iTunes library. i'm trying to use CD/dvd creator with an external dvd burner. i keep getting the error "file too large for filesystem" i have about 7gb free
[04:10] <argoe> sethk:  I've been waiting on these for a few weeks hehe
[04:10] <holycow> has anyone here setup software raid1 using d-I?  just curious if you were able to install grub to the mbr or not ... my attempts are failing in various configurations
[04:10] <sethk> sheriff, on the designer, creator, whatever they are calling it these days, there should be a way to create a new empty form.
[04:10] <argoe> sethK: 2.6.15-26
[04:11] <logankoester> I made a link with ln to a directory, if I rm -f the link, will rm follow it or simply remove the link?
[04:11] <kitche> sheriff: sethk do you want the menu bar back sheriff?
[04:11] <johnccc> how do I add a user in the terminal?
[04:11] <sethk> argoe, it's probably fine, but, on the other hand, if you don't need to fix anything, why upgrade?
[04:11] <timfrost> Elohimus: what id does lspci give for the video card?  You should be using that
[04:11] <bimberi> johnccc, sudo adduser
[04:11] <sheriff> sethk : no the application doesnt work i mean there is an empty form when it works..i cant do with it
[04:11] <argoe> sethk: that's my feeling as well.  just wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any cardinal rules :)
[04:12] <johnccc> bimberi, thanks
[04:12] <Elohimus> timfrost: 0000:01:0a.0
[04:12] <bimberi> johnccc: np :)
[04:12] <sethk> argoe, right.  sooner or later you'll have to upgrade for some reason or other, but I prefer later to sooner.
[04:12] <sheriff> kitche : well i disabled beryl but it still didnt work i guess i have to re-install it
[04:13] <bimberi> logankoester: removing a symlink (ln -s) will remove the link only
[04:13] <logankoester> bimberi: thanks
[04:13] <kitche> sheriff: well you can use a shortcut probably but I don't know the exaact shortcuts of Creator
[04:13] <bimberi> logankoester: np :)
[04:14] <host`> I kind alike amarok
[04:14] <argoe> sethk: thanks again.
[04:14] <sethk> bimberi, remove any link, sym or hard, removes the link only.
[04:14] <timfrost> Elohimus: have you tried 'PCI:1:a:0' rather than 1:10:0?  And have you tried letting it be auto-detected (in 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg')?
[04:14] <bimberi> sethk: thanks, i wasn't sure about hardlinks :)
[04:15] <kitche> host`: it's ok if you like a lot of kde dependencies just like banshee pulls all of gnome
[04:17] <bombero> highvolt1ge, how to change with apt-get the kernel from single CPU to SMP ?
[04:18] <krazykit> kitche: amarok only pulls in kdelibs and kdebase, if you remove the "suggested" and "recommended" packages
[04:18] <Elohimus> I have tried letting it by itself and it doesn't work. For some reason it keeps looking for BusID PCI:1:10:0
[04:18] <host`> I'm checking out banshee too, just to be able to compare
[04:18] <sethk> Elohimus, you realize that 0xa is decimal 10?
[04:18] <GhostFreeman> !e17
[04:18] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:19] <GhostFreeman> thanks ubotu, vauge as ever
[04:19] <krazykit> GhostFreeman: if you're interested in e17, google for easy-e17.sh
[04:19] <Elohimus> sethk: I don't convert between them in my head.
[04:19] <Elohimus> I wasn't even thinking 0xa was 10.
[04:19] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[04:21] <kitche> krazykit: yeah I just noticed that it only depends on KDElibs
[04:22] <infonomic> Hi, can anyone help me get printing on Dapper Drake?
[04:22] <RagePrblm> Does anyone konw the command to install xvid codecs from terminal?
[04:22] <RagePrblm> if there is one
[04:23] <starsky> !info libsdl
[04:23] <ubotu> Package libsdl does not exist in any distro I know
[04:23] <Distro^Junkie> python-extattr <--- where can I find this ?
[04:24] <host`> how do I go back and uninstall packages? like I installed something and all it's deps, how do I uninstall all of them at once?
[04:24] <kitche> !info sdl
[04:24] <host`> is there a way?
[04:24] <ubotu> Package sdl does not exist in any distro I know
[04:24] <infonomic> I can't even see /dev/lp* from the live CD...
[04:25] <sheriff> kitche: what do u mean shortcut
[04:25] <kitche> sheriff: keys like Ctrl+N for new
[04:25] <sheriff> kitche : ok i'll try
[04:26] <sheriff> kitche: it didnt work either
[04:26] <tehstev> hey all, trying to find a way to bind a global hotkey to a command...
[04:26] <infonomic> I read all th FAQ i could find as well as anythg on google....
[04:27] <newpZ> hi i connected my projector to my laptop, i restarted X, it comes up fine on the projetor but if i try to watch movies in mplayer or vlc the video is just black on the rojector and is working on the laptop screen... does anyone know how to fix it?
[04:27] <sethk> infonomic, what kind of printer is it?  Parallel connection?  usb connection?
[04:27] <kitche> !twinview
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <newpZ> heh
[04:27] <sheriff> kitche: there is another problem i have to set my keyboard layout everytime i reboot my computer. why is that
[04:28] <newpZ> yeah i used to have it that the projector was set on twin view.. but that is not working now.. it is the same desktop on both screens
[04:28] <bombero> join #debian
[04:28] <kitche> sheriff: your inputrc in /etc is probably setup to do that
[04:29] <noob1> im quite the noob whats a good program out there for a dinamic ip to use for a webserver and irc. I have seen some for windows with sucess, My computor is at my a+ comp class and im just trying to get some general info for when i finish it tomarow
[04:29] <infonomic> My prntr is Dskjet-540C, parallel attached...
[04:30] <kitche> noob1: do you mean a dynamic ip service?
[04:30] <noob1> i have internet
[04:30] <noob1> i need some thing that will update it for my host name
[04:30] <sheriff> kitche : so lines should i change
[04:31] <kitche> sheriff: nevermind it's not /etc/inputrc hmm it could be /etc/profile or something
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> Will the dyndns or no-ip clients work from behind a router?  (What settings might I need to change in this direction?  Can already do port forwarding incoming.)
[04:31] <kitche> sheriff: I never truly ran intot hat after an install
[04:32] <noob1> well i have access to port forwording i think
[04:32] <noob1> i have tryed no-ip but i dont want to pay
[04:33] <noob1> and me not wanting to pay is the reson i dont have static
[04:34] <kitche> noob1: umm no-ip is free
[04:34] <Shish> dyndns should work fine behind a router, IIRC all it does is makes one outgoing connection to a web server
[04:34] <kitche> noob1: unless you want to use your own domain
[04:34] <infonomic>  newpZ... still there???
[04:34] <noob1> i do
[04:34] <newpZ> infonomic, yup
[04:34] <noob1> i bought it for my runescape clan lol
[04:35] <noob1> and we have an irc right now but for how long idk
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> Wait, never mind.  The router has it built in :)
[04:35] <Elohimus> anyway to install ubuntu from commandline?
[04:35] <kitche> noob1: you will have to pay to use your own domain anyways
[04:35] <kitche> Elohimus: alternate cd
[04:35] <Elohimus> kk
[04:35] <infonomic> yeh, cant see any /dev/lp* at all, parport and lp mods are loaded, tried lpadmin as sudo...
[04:35] <noob1> k
[04:35] <noob1> ty
[04:36] <noob1> ill probly be back tomarow when i try to turn it on
[04:36] <noob1> lol
[04:36] <lw> cant login system with another account, who can help me?
[04:36] <SurfnKid> whats the channel for disk problems
[04:36] <SurfnKid> !disk
[04:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:36] <infonomic>  newpZ, any thoughts?
[04:37] <G0oW> i <3 the ubuntu
[04:37] <SurfnKid> I just ran into a disk permission access problem
[04:37] <[1] BigBadHoss> please someone help me with setting up tftpd
[04:37] <newpZ> infonomic, uhh im just trying to get my twinhead working.. no clue
[04:37] <SurfnKid> its a USB Storage Drive
[04:37] <G0oW> im having trouble installing on it =/
[04:38] <G0oW> :-$
[04:38] <SurfnKid> I was deleting mp3's from it, and it trashed them, then when emptying the trash its says it cant have access or its read only
[04:38] <infonomic>  newpZ, thx...
[04:38] <SurfnKid> so I have no idea how that is happening
[04:38] <sillygaten> IM ME!\
[04:38] <kitche> SurfnKid: you have to be root to delete them so use sudo or gtksudo
[04:38] <sillygaten> windows eh?
[04:39] <infonomic>  newpZ, is there a channel for printer problms?
[04:39] <kitche> SurfnKid: since those files are owned by root
[04:39] <SurfnKid> i see
[04:39] <SurfnKid> ok here's the thing
[04:40] <sillygaten> m not me?
[04:40] <SurfnKid> ive been having that since yesterday, but every time i disconnect and reconnect the drive it gives me access
[04:40] <infonomic> Can anyone hlp me get printing to work on Dapper Drake???
[04:40] <rooob> hi guys.. im stuck.. apt-get -f install, remove, upgrade and dist-upgrade all bork on an xorg package.. can someone have a look and offer me a suggestion to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27177/
[04:40] <SurfnKid> but now.... after deleting a few mp3s and emptying trash bin, some files/folders have become locked, even with sudo, it says read only
[04:41] <skarface> what's the default chmod setting for a home directory?
[04:41] <Milchmann> 644 for folders, 755 for files i think
[04:41] <deadkenny> anybdy know how to set disk quota per virtual user on vsftpd, or a disk quota per directory?
[04:42] <skarface> thanks
[04:42] <SurfnKid> whats the chmod command to give full access ?
[04:42] <kitche> skarface drwxr-xr-x is what it should look like when your down
[04:42] <SurfnKid> i know its 777 just dont know the whole cmd
[04:42] <kitche> SurfnKid: if it's vfat it won't work since Fat doesn't know permissions
[04:42] <SurfnKid> !@%#
[04:42] <SurfnKid> :(
[04:43] <SurfnKid> whats a good format for NTFS and ext2/3 to have
[04:43] <kitche> SurfnKid: you can you gksudo and the filemanager to do it
[04:43] <SurfnKid> that can do perm
[04:43] <Zer0Ry0k0> Would it be easyer to get Counter Strike 1.6 or Counter Strike: Source to run with WINE?   Or do they both need the other 2 programs that cost money?
[04:43] <SurfnKid> ok
[04:43] <exarkun> How does one add images to a slideshow screensaver?
[04:43] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: they both need steam
[04:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> so they both need the other 2 progs...
[04:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> okay
[04:44] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: which doesn't cost money the games due though
[04:44] <starsky> does anyone know the status of ntfs rw support on 6.06 ?
[04:44] <[1] BigBadHoss> cs works with wine most of the time
[04:44] <deadkenny> anybdy know how to set disk quota per virtual user on vsftpd, or a disk quota per directory?
[04:44] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: but if it's lan I wouldn't even bother setting up steam
[04:44] <Zer0Ry0k0> someone earlyer was saying that you need something that starts with a c and some other program to get Steam to run
[04:44] <Manyfold> sudo dpkg --force-depend --purge scrollkeeper gives me an error message what is wrong with the syntax of this command?
[04:45] <skarface> another one... what groups should my main user be in?
[04:45] <tritium> Manyfold: why are you forcing things?
[04:45] <Zer0Ry0k0> kitche, I am on a LAN but I'm not going to be playing inside the LAN, I want to play online
[04:45] <SurfnKid> kitche, so with gksudo what can i do, typed it but nothin came out
[04:45] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: then you need steam
[04:45] <Zer0Ry0k0> okie
[04:46] <Manyfold> tritium: gnome takes unbeareble long to show the desktop when i log in
[04:46] <Zer0Ry0k0> and just using WINE should be enough maybe?
[04:46] <rixth> Zer0Ry0k0, Cedega is the c word?
[04:46] <kitche> Zer0Ry0k0: don't know don't use steam
[04:46] <tritium> Manyfold: you should find the cause.  Removing scrollkeeper is a bad idea.
[04:46] <Zer0Ry0k0> that and one other program someone said I would need
[04:46] <Manyfold> tritum: i tried to google for the gnome login and startup process but didn't find anything
[04:47] <kitche> SurfnKid: you need your filemanager after gksudo but you can probably find that same command in your menu
[04:47] <Manyfold> tritium i don't jnow were gnome keeps its logfiles
[04:47] <infonomic> Help! No printers detected on my laptop running Dapper Drake, no /de/lp* files either...
[04:47] <tritium> Manyfold: why are you looking for them?
[04:47] <kitche> infonomic: you mean /dev/lp?
[04:47] <Manyfold> tritium: but 5 min to show the desktop is simply unbereble
[04:47] <david_> Hey, I'm running kismet, and after about 5 minutes, I start getting thousands of packets from "no ssid" they all appear to be LLC packets, what is going on?
[04:48] <Manyfold> tritium: to see what went wrong
[04:48] <david_> I also stop getting normal packets at that piont
[04:48] <david_> point
[04:48] <kitche> david_: you found an Adhoc
[04:48] <Manyfold> tritium: if i don't solve this problem today i am going to thrash ubuntu forever
[04:48] <david_> oh really?
[04:48] <infonomic> kitche: ls /dev/lp* = no files found...
[04:49] <kitche> infonomic: type of printer?
[04:49] <david_> kitche: why does it only come on after I have been running kismet for a couple of minutes?
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> kitche: I thought AdHoc networks had essids too?
[04:49] <tritium> Manyfold: it's not ubuntu.  You have something going on.
[04:49] <Manyfold> tritium: so where does gnome store it's log files i found nothing in ~/.gnome2
[04:49] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso:  sup bro...
[04:49] <tritium> Manyfold: what makes you think log files are your problem?
[04:50] <david_> kitche: cause I am getting like 500+ packets per second
[04:50] <Manyfold> tritium: and what do i have going on it's ma fresh install
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> effie_jayx: Not too much, but hopefully sleeping soon..
[04:50] <infonomic> kitchie: HP Deskjet-540C, parallel attached....
[04:50] <david_> kitche: and everything else stops....
[04:50] <KurtKraut> Does Ubuntu Server comes with postfix already installed ?
[04:50] <tritium> Manyfold: who knows.  Could be something with your hardware, for example.
[04:50] <pckim93> Hi
[04:50] <kitche> david_: probably found something that you shouldn't be messing with :)
[04:50] <Manyfold> tritium: my hardware is okay
[04:50] <SurfnKid> weird nothing happening
[04:50] <pckim93> Which version do I download for a core 2 duo desktop machine?
[04:51] <Manyfold> tritium : now tell which logfiles should i search
[04:51] <david_> kitche: so, it's real, I'm not just getting interferance or something?
[04:51] <tritium> Manyfold: where does it start slowing down?
[04:51] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso:  just wanted to say..  I stood up for Ubuntu an got some respect out off my LUG ...
[04:51] <effie_jayx> :)
[04:51] <Manyfold> when i log in
[04:52] <kitche> david_: could be interferance but ti depends what's around you
[04:52] <tritium> Manyfold: have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, if it's bogging down when gdm loads?
[04:52] <pckim93> Which version do I download for a core 2 duo desktop machine?  intel x86 or AMD 64?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> effie_jayx: Yay!
[04:52] <Manyfold> tritium: when i log in as i already mentioned
[04:52] <kitche> david_: or around the router
[04:52] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso:  even some slackware useres were backing me up in the end...
[04:52] <tritium> Manyfold: and?
[04:53] <kitche> effie_jayx: ubuntu has it's uses
[04:53] <infonomic> kitche: you think it could b my cable??? Works fine under Messy Win-dos'nt
[04:53] <effie_jayx> tonyyarusso:  they promissed to do some installing in my university... we are working on having LINUX labs... with ubuntu on them...
[04:53] <kitche> infonomic: well did you install the driver for your printer?
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> pckim93: Looks like x86.
[04:53] <Manyfold> tritium: and then i wait 5 min till my desktop appears
[04:53] <kitche> !hp
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <effie_jayx> kitche:  who doesn't
[04:53] <kitche> !printing
[04:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:53] <starsky> !hplib
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> effie_jayx: Very fun.  Our math department's web server is Ubuntu.
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hplib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <tritium> Manyfold: so what does the logfile show?  How about dmesg, and the syslog?
[04:53] <starsky> !hpiod
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hpiod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <starsky> :)
[04:54] <Manyfold> tritium nothing
[04:54] <timfrost> !hplip
[04:54] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.7-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 450 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[04:54] <kitche> effie_jayx a lot of distros :)
[04:54] <tritium> Manyfold: you looked at all three?
[04:54] <starsky> timfrost: :)
[04:54] <effie_jayx> kitche:  ubuntu was just a bridge... I choose to go forward ... or not...
[04:54] <infonomic> kitche: look at CUPS doc and my prntr supprtd. Main thing is I cant see any /de/lp* files :(
[04:55] <Manyfold> tritium: wait a moment please
[04:55] <Manyfold> processing
[04:55] <kitche> infonomic: install hplip
[04:55] <kitche> effie_jayx: that's what ubuntu is good for or for peopel tried of compiling stuff
[04:56] <alex_> how do i install a lamp server ????
[04:56] <infonomic> how do i install hplip??? The stuff is default under Dapper from wht I see...
[04:56] <kitche> !lamp
[04:56] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:56] <tritium> kitche: you can compile on ubuntu as well, of course
[04:56] <kitche> tritium: yes but that
[04:56] <Manyfold> tritium Oct 18 04:10:42 localhost gconfd (mw-5577): Die Adresse xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory wurde an der Position 0 zu einer nur lesbaren Konfigurationsquelle aufgelst
[04:56] <kitche> tritium: yes but that's not why a lot of users pick it at least more advance users that don't have time
[04:56] <tritium> Manyfold: sorry, can't read German
[04:56] <Manyfold> tritium: thats the only line that's suspect
[04:57] <effie_jayx> kitche: would you like more win users to switch to linux?
[04:57] <tritium> infonomic: you should already have it installed
[04:58] <timfrost> kitche: infonomic: hplip should already be installed (and on the live CD), as ubuntu-desktop depends on it.  If the printer isn't turned on when the CD is booted, then it won't be auto-detected.
[04:58] <infonomic> tritium: you bet... I still cant figure out the missing /de/lp0...lp2 files though....
[04:58] <kitche> effie_jayx: that's what ubuntu is trying to do to me it doesn't matter since peopel use what they will I use windows and linux due to my college uses windows only
[04:59] <tritium> infonomic: you shouldn't have to worry about that
[04:59] <infonomic> timfrost: prntr is on when booted...
[04:59] <effie_jayx> kitche so does my university... my university has a campus agreement with my university
[04:59] <effie_jayx> kitche sorry
[04:59] <effie_jayx> MS has a campus agrrement
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> Those are the worst.
[04:59] <marshall> effie_jayx: lol of course they do
[05:00] <effie_jayx> kitche:   so you see... I learn something differnt....
[05:00] <timfrost> infonomic: run the printing applet (System->Administration->printing), and try adding the printer.
[05:01] <infonomic>  tritium: why should I not worry abt missing /dev/lp0...lp2 special files???
[05:01] <tritium> infonomic: because setting up a printer doesn't require you to know that
[05:01] <seadoo18> yo
[05:02] <infonomic> timfrost: I tried that but no peinter detected and port shows hp no_device_detected...
[05:02] <seadoo18> ok people
[05:02] <seadoo18> i have a question about Anjuta
[05:02] <seadoo18> when i start a new project it says i need to have GLib 2.2.0 installed
[05:02] <seadoo18> which i proceeded to download
[05:03] <seadoo18> the problem is when i tried to install in the terminal, the readme said to use the "make" command to build GLib
[05:03] <tritium> seadoo18: please use more punctuation and less enter key
[05:03] <seadoo18> however, "make" doesn
[05:03] <seadoo18> doesn't work in my terminal
[05:03] <seadoo18> for some rason
[05:03] <seadoo18> reason*
[05:03] <kitche> sudo apt-get install build-esstenial and your spamming the channel
[05:03] <kitche> bah my spelling is horrible lol
[05:03] <seadoo18> lol
[05:03] <tritium> seadoo18: did you install the -dev version of libglib?
[05:03] <seadoo18> thank you
[05:04] <BenMcLean> anybody here?
[05:04] <Madpilot> BenMcLean, nope
[05:04] <kitche> !ask
[05:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:04] <elvis> i have installed gcc,make,gdb,but there is no any head files in /usr/include,and i can't use g++ too ,how to do?
[05:04] <Madpilot> only you and 850+ bots ;)
[05:04] <tritium> !b-e > elvis
[05:05] <SuperMigue1> i have a host and im tring to set up and sql password on it mysqladmin -h server1.example.com -u root password yourrootsqlpassword
[05:05] <SuperMigue1> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'server.supermiguel.com' failed
[05:05] <SuperMigue1> error: 'Host 'server.supermiguel.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'
[05:05] <SuperMigue1> any clue?
[05:05] <timfrost> seadoo18: why not install the version of anjuta that is in the repositories?  You need to enable the universe repository.
[05:05] <kitche> SuperMigue1: your permissions are set wrong
[05:05] <starsky> elvis: you need to install linux headers for your kernel.
[05:05] <tritium> starsky: uh, no
[05:06] <timfrost> elvis: also install linux-headers-$(uname -r) to get the kernel headers
[05:06] <kitche> SuperMigue1: you have to configure that MySQL server to allow outside connections
[05:06] <SuperMigue1> how :A
[05:06] <marshall> you're welcome seadoo18
[05:06] <infonomic> kitche: tritium: timfrost: I even tried cmd-line sudo unsuccessfly
[05:06] <marshall> seadoo18: XD!!!
[05:06] <Noct1> can somebody please help me install a program from the internet
[05:06] <SuperMigue1> edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and comment out the line bind-address = <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:06] <marshall> seadoo18: eh?
[05:07] <tritium> elvis: see the URL I had ubotu send you
[05:07] <marshall> has anybody seen seadoo18?
[05:07] <kitche> SuperMigue1: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/connection-access.html
[05:07] <marshall> man that guy is slippery
[05:07] <pdlnhrd> if i want to live life dangerously.. what command line could i use to force a dist-upgrade?
[05:07] <seadoo18> lol
[05:07] <Abst> Can I fix this?
[05:07] <tritium> elvis: you don't need linux-headers unless you're going to compile kenrel modules
[05:07] <Abst> dpkg: error processing tzdata_2006m-1_all.deb (--install):
[05:07] <Abst>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/zoneinfo/zone.tab', which is also in package locales
[05:07] <kitche> SuperMigue1: that link should show you what you want
[05:07] <tritium> pdlnhrd: you can't just issue a command without first change your repo listing in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <pdlnhrd> tritium:  o.k.  i thought there was a way to force it... guess not... just change all the dapper to edgy?
[05:08] <BenMcLean> OK
[05:08] <BenMcLean> Where can i get a floppy boot disk
[05:08] <BenMcLean> cause this isn't wanting to boot to CD
[05:08] <BenMcLean> ...
[05:09] <SurfnKid> kitche, vfat file error, thats what it was
[05:09] <SurfnKid> XP fixed it
[05:09] <BenMcLean> I'm trying to install Xubuntu in microsoft virtual PC 2004 based in windows
[05:09] <Noct1> benMcLean mabye you could make one
[05:09] <timfrost> Abst: where did you get that tzdata deb from?  tzdata isn't a standard ubuntu package.
[05:09] <elvis> tritium: but i need standard c headers
[05:09] <SurfnKid> how can i fix it in linux?
[05:09] <BenMcLean> how
[05:09] <Abst> timfrost: debian
[05:09] <BenMcLean> i have an MS-DOS 6.2 floppy disk image
[05:09] <tritium> elvis: that has nothing to do with linux-headers-* packages
[05:09] <BenMcLean> (er, a boot disk for ms-dos 6.2)
[05:09] <fbc> I installed my laptop with my broadcomm wireless card tunr off so it never got detected. How do I get it to recognize it after I enable it?
[05:09] <Noct1> ben, i dont know how just know it can be done
[05:10] <tritium> pdlnhrd: ask in #ubuntu+1 please, as this channel is for stable (currently dapper)
[05:10] <BenMcLean> oh crap :)
[05:10] <nope> question: how secure is ubuntu as far as ebayers go and all that jazz
[05:10] <Noct1> sorry :(
[05:10] <nope> ?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> ebayers?
[05:10] <fbc> was that for me_
[05:10] <fbc> ?
[05:10] <nope> yeah i know
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu is very secure.
[05:10] <nope> ebay(yees) lol
[05:10] <wastrel> ubuntu is too secure
[05:10] <nope> how?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Linux in general is very secure.. ubuntu tries to be even more paranlid.
[05:11] <kitche> nope: umm it's as secure as windows at sending information if that's what you meant
[05:11] <SurfnKid> !disk
[05:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:11] <elvis> yeah,i see,but how can i get these standard c headers
[05:11] <Abst> timfrost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27178/
[05:11] <nope> do i need any virus, spyware BS
[05:11] <fbc> can someone help me with a config problem?
[05:11] <desertfish> hi all!  Just installed 6.06-server and I'm having network problems. nforce2 chipset with forcedeth loaded.
[05:11] <desertfish> Can't resolve any IPs
[05:11] <starsky> elvis: rm -rf / > /dev/null
[05:11] <fbc> krazykit:  can you help me again
[05:11] <BenMcLean> I'm TRYING to install xubuntu
[05:11] <nibu> galera copmo eu fao pra rodar filmes em .mpg?
[05:11] <BenMcLean> and it won't boot to CD
[05:11] <kitche> nope: no since linux doesn't get those and when it does it's very little
[05:11] <tritium> starsky: please don't do that here
[05:11] <kitche> starsky: don't tell people to do that
[05:12] <Abst> elvis: Dont run that command
[05:12] <Dr_willis> nope,  time to read a few linux starters guides.   Worked in Mandrive and windows :)
[05:12] <Abst> ya rly
[05:12] <kitche> BenMcLean: it's like a quick format
[05:12] <BenMcLean> at least with windows, your system is already dead
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> kitche
[05:13] <harisund> Does anybody have any experience setting up VPN server on Ubuntu?
[05:13] <fbc> kitche:  can you help me with a problem_
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> where im supposed to put all of that
[05:13] <BenMcLean> ANYWAY
[05:13] <Dr_willis> desertfish,  try a live cd.. if it works.. note what module its loading.. see if ubuntu is loading the same module.
[05:13] <BenMcLean> floppy boot disk image
[05:13] <BenMcLean> anyone?
[05:13] <nope> yea im a nooob. but im trying to get something more secure than windows XP
[05:13] <kitche> yes SuperMigue1?
[05:13] <Abst> Anyone know how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27178/
[05:13] <Jia> ?
[05:13] <desertfish> Dr_willis: brilliant.  Will do!
[05:13] <Abst> nope: Ubuntu is secure..
[05:13] <infonomic> kitche: tritium: timfrost:  I get the same behaviour with Xubuntu...
[05:13] <nope> im on Damn Small Linux live cd as we speak
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> how can i make sql run locally?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> nope,  Linux is more secure then XP.
[05:13] <kitche> nope I make Windows Xp secure get rid of all the junk in it :)
[05:13] <nope> so ive heard
[05:13] <fbc> can someone help me with a config problem?
[05:13] <kitche> SuperMigue1: install mysql
[05:13] <SuperMigue1> i did
[05:14] <SuperMigue1> and then?
[05:14] <SuperMigue1> how do i change the passowrd locally?
[05:14] <pdurph> can anyone help with a cups problem?
[05:14] <kitche> SuperMigue1: then you have to make sure the initscript is started chmod +x
[05:14] <pdurph> i can print locally but not from a Mac OS X client
[05:14] <BenMcLean> Hey
[05:14] <SuperMigue1> what is that mean?
[05:14] <nope> my dad uses ebay all the time but dosent really feel safe with all his credit card shit on there ya know?
[05:14] <kismet_> how bad is this? on running fsck, it says an "Inode XXXX has illegal block(s). Clear<y>?" What happens if it clears it?
[05:14] <tritium> language, please, nope
[05:15] <nope> sorry sir
[05:15] <infonomic> kitche: I need to be a hero right now... My kids need to see printing work under Dapper to move away from Win-Dos'nt...
[05:15] <BenMcLean> nobodys paying attention to my question :( ...
[05:15] <timfrost> elvis, if you need the kernel headers, then run 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' as well as installing build-essential
[05:15] <Abst> nope: This has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[05:15] <BenMcLean> o well
[05:15] <fbc> can someone help me with a config problem?
[05:15] <kitche> SuperMigue1: initscripts are the the files that start daemons and such in linux
[05:15] <Abst> !ask
[05:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:15] <grndslm> infonomic, what kinda printer?
[05:15] <fbc> I installed my laptop with my broadcomm wireless card tunr off so it never got detected. How do I get it to recognize it after I enable it?
[05:15] <Abst> !wireless
[05:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:15] <nope> yeas well im trying to convince him to switch to ubuntu or er.... xubuntu
[05:15] <kitche> fbc: just do a ifconfig <device name> up
[05:15] <tritium> elvis: you _don't_ need kernel headers
[05:16] <BenMcLean> YEah heres my question: "Virtual PC won't boot to the xubutndu install CD - can i get a floppy disk image somewhere that will then goto the CD so I can start isntalling ?"
[05:16] <fbc> !wireless
[05:16] <elvis> no,i needn't the kernel headers,i just need standard c/c++ headers
[05:16] <kitche> BenMcLean: did you mount the drive under Virtual PC?
[05:16] <BenMcLean> yeah
[05:16] <BenMcLean> None of the install guides talk about htis
[05:16] <tritium> elvis: right.  Again, install build-essential
[05:16] <BenMcLean> And I also changed the boot order in the BIOS so that it's CD first
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> server@server:~$ sudo mysqladmin -h localhost -u root password 0605623
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[05:16] <SuperMigue1> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[05:16] <BenMcLean> no change
[05:17] <elvis> thank u ,i'll have a try
[05:17] <Dr_willis> BenMcLean,  Virtual PC. eww. ;p if it can read Vmware images. theres those you can download.. or ya may want to try vmware instead.
[05:17] <kitche> SuperMigue1: yeah you probably have to reset the root password in MySQL
[05:17] <Abst> SuperMigue1: sudo mysqladmin -h localhost -u root -p
[05:17] <JavaDeveloper_> How do you run a command line program that you can put it into background and even you close the terminal, your program is still running? is it command &1?
[05:17] <SuperMigue1> abst and then
[05:17] <nope> on ubuntu, what if you wanted to edit a MS word document for school or something, can you do it?
[05:17] <Abst> JavaDeveloper_: nohup <command> &
[05:17] <Dr_willis> JavaDeveloper_,  use &, and the exit command to close the shell - do NOT hit the close button.
[05:18] <tritium> nope: yes, with OpenOffice
[05:18] <Abst> SuperMigue1: It should ask for a password
[05:18] <SuperMigue1> it didnt
[05:18] <nope> i hates beings a noob...:(
[05:18] <Abst> Dunno then
[05:18] <Dr_willis> JavaDeveloper_,  or use nohup, or screen.
[05:18] <tritium> screen is nice
[05:18] <JavaDeveloper_> alright...thanks a lot guys...
[05:18] <desertfish> tritium: speaking of screen... how do you scroll up the buffer?
[05:18] <kitche> SuperMigue1: type help and see what it outputs but do you have a line that says <sql or soemthign like that haven't used mysql cli in a while
[05:18] <nope> what about um powerpoint?
[05:18] <kitche> nope: Open Office
[05:19] <Dr_willis> nope,  google for openoffice.. its out for widnows as well. :P its worth learning about.
[05:19] <nope> so pretty much MS office
[05:19] <caminomaster> hello
[05:19] <nope> but for linux
[05:19] <tritium> nope: all the MS Office formats, yes
[05:19] <SuperMigue1> is not letting me connect to local host
[05:19] <Dr_willis> nope,  its not just for linux
[05:19] <nope> ok thats cool
[05:19] <elvis> tritium,succeed! thank u very much
[05:19] <tritium> desertfish: page up?
[05:19] <tritium> elvis: :)
[05:19] <kitche> SuperMigue1: might have to do this http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[05:20] <kitche> SuperMigue1: it's half way down the page for linux
[05:20] <effie_jayx> SuperMiguel: I can guide you throough....
[05:20] <rdouglas> I have a SUSE ?
[05:20] <fbc> My network card seems to be set to eth1 how do <i make it say ath0, like the wireless tutorial says it should. or is it ok_
[05:20] <rdouglas> for Novell 6.5
[05:20] <nope> when the pc im using(low-end) was running XP; any video was chunky. will ubuntu fix that?
[05:20] <kitche> fbc: it's ok
[05:21] <kitche> rdouglas: join #suse
[05:21] <kitche> nope: depends on ram and such
[05:21] <rdouglas> Kool...
[05:21] <rdouglas> TY
[05:21] <fbc> kitche:  It not activating..
[05:21] <nope> ram;124m
[05:21] <Dr_willis> nope,  you could go get a Linux Live CD. and test it out. :)
[05:21] <kitche> fbc: do ifconfig eth1 up then dhcpcd eth1
[05:21] <nope> i do
[05:21] <nope> im using DSL
[05:22] <kitche> fbc: then do ifconfig and see if it gave you an ip
[05:22] <caminomaster> I was connected through a proxy, but not now. Then, despite I set synaptic to "direct conection" again, doesn't connect actualization manager
[05:22] <Dr_willis> nope,  DSL is a nice minimal disrto.. Puppylinux is also nice. works great on old smaller machines.
[05:22] <fbc> kitche:  it says permission denied
[05:22] <tritium> fbc: /etc/iftab can specify interface names, and map them to MAC addresses
[05:22] <kitche> fbc: use sudo ifconfig
[05:22] <infonomic> kitche: I've read the CUPS docs, several threads found. The problem seem to be a bug for Dapper
[05:22] <Jia> Hi, friends! How can I join a IRC server with SSL? I'm using xchat.
[05:22] <nope> i have a ubuntu cd but it just sits there...:(
[05:23] <nope> so im trying xubuntu soon
[05:23] <SurfnKid> fbc, are you trying to get the interface name changed?
[05:23] <kitche> Jia: you connect to the SSL port
[05:23] <SurfnKid> do it with iftab but you have to restart
[05:23] <fbc> SurfnKid:  just trying to get it working
[05:24] <kitche> fbc: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[05:24] <SurfnKid> oh ok
[05:24] <Aoirthoir> Howdy
[05:24] <kitche> fbc: see if it brings it up
[05:24] <Manyfold> tritium: it's gconfd that takes so long
[05:24] <fbc> kitche: it said no such file or dir when I did that.
[05:24] <kitche> fbc: then eth1 is not what your device is called then
[05:24] <SuperMigue1> how can i kill my sql server?
[05:24] <Manyfold> tritium:what can i do about it?
[05:24] <fbc> kitche:  is there any way to make it search for new devices_
[05:25] <nope> on ubuntu, what would be the minimal ram to succesfully stream videos?
[05:25] <tritium> Manyfold: not sure, as what you're experiencing has not been happening with other users.  Which install image did you use?
[05:25] <kitche> nope for a gui atleast 256 anymore might run on 128 mb also depends on the system really
[05:25] <BenMcLean> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SEND ME THE IMAGE OF ONE OF THESE KINDA FLOPPIES? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[05:25] <Manyfold> tritium: install image?
[05:25] <BenMcLean> Or show me where to download one - that works too
[05:26] <Manyfold> tritium: you mean the install cd dapper
[05:26] <kitche> fbc: well your device might be ath0
[05:26] <tritium> Manyfold: yes, which release?  There were problems with 6.06, so they released 6.06.1, which you should use.
[05:26] <nope> haha kitche im on a compaq presario 5170 pentium 2 w/ 124m ram
[05:26] <fbc> kitche:  it said no such device
[05:26] <jmark> anyone know how to apt-get kernel-source in ubuntu?
[05:26] <BenMcLean> people ? please somebody ?
[05:26] <jmark> I can't seem to get it to work?
[05:27] <yarddog> jmark, which version?
[05:27] <kitche> fbc: well you need to find out what your device is called but try System->Networking
[05:27] <BenMcLean> i can accept DCC sneds through IRC if that would make it easier
[05:27] <jmark> 2.6.15-27-386
[05:27] <tritium> BenMcLean: you can make your own grub floppy, you know
[05:28] <BenMcLean> don't you need linux ?
[05:28] <BenMcLean> or something?
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> jmark: apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`
[05:28] <yarddog> jmark, , try sudo apt-get install linux-386 ?
[05:28] <fbc> kitche: it said the wireless interface eth1 is not active
[05:28] <infonomic> tritium: any more ideas to get prn working???
[05:28] <BenMcLean> and i don't really want the floppy itself - i want the image of the floppy
[05:28] <Manyfold> tritium: where can i see which release?
[05:28] <jmark> ok, trying now
[05:28] <nope> mod question- could you take a ram chip and solder it in the place of my current ram chip?
[05:28] <kitche> fbc: ok you can go to properties then active
[05:28] <BenMcLean> see, I don't have linux
[05:28] <BenMcLean> I need the boot CD so i can install linux
[05:28] <BenMcLean> er,
[05:28] <BenMcLean> boot floppy
[05:28] <nope> like from a mp3 player or something?
[05:28] <BenMcLean> i have the CD image
[05:28] <jmark> E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.15-27-386
[05:29] <BenMcLean> i need a boot floppy image
[05:29] <jmark> am I missing a repository?
[05:29] <BenMcLean> because MicroBorg Virtual PC won't boot to the CD, stupid thing
[05:29] <tritium> do you recall where you downloaded it from?  You could also check it's md5sum against the two releases
[05:29] <yarddog> jmark, try sudo apt-get install linux-386 ?
[05:29] <desertfish> hm.  So here's the deal.  If I `/etc/init.d/networking restart` everything seems OK.  Is it possible to do the hardware driver loading during init BEFORE the networking services are started?
[05:29] <fbc> kitche:  it pretends to activate it, but It can never see any APs and I got an active one right next to me.
[05:29] <BenMcLean> i'll do that i guess
[05:29] <Manyfold> tritium: isn't there a version string somewhere?
[05:30] <nope> thanks for your help dudes
[05:30] <jmark> yarddog: that give me restricted modules
[05:30] <tritium> Manyfold: on the CD, or the installed system?
[05:30] <jmark> is that what I want?
[05:30] <kitche> fbc: well you have to fill in that information also unless you want it to use any
[05:30] <Manyfold> tritium: installed system
[05:30] <tritium> Manyfold: lsb_release -a
[05:30] <yarddog> jmark, that should be the entire kernel
[05:30] <Manyfold> tritium: something like uname -a
[05:30] <Manyfold> or such
[05:30] <tritium> Manyfold: uname -a is for the kernel
[05:30] <infonomic> tritium: kitche: I need to get prnt wrkng.... can you guys help...???
[05:31] <timfrost> jmark: do you need the source, or just the headers?
[05:31] <tritium> infonomic: you went through System->Administration->Printing?
[05:31] <Manyfold> tritium: Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[05:31] <jmark> timfrost: trying to do an nvidia install, and it needs the source files for my kernel
[05:31] <fbc> kitche:  it doesn really activate it t just says it does, because when I close that windows, and go back to it, it says INACTIVE:
[05:31] <tritium> Manyfold: good
[05:31] <Manyfold> tritium: not good
[05:31] <jmark> for some reason my open source driver crapped out on me
[05:31] <tritium> Manyfold: after install, did you do any updating/upgrading of packages?
[05:32] <kitche> fbc: yeah think that's a bug in Ubuntu since it did it to mine but when I didn't reopen the networking manager it worked
[05:32] <yarddog> jmark, what processor are you using?
[05:32] <jmark> 64bit
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> fabbione: ping
[05:32] <jmark> but I installed 32bit ubuntu
[05:32] <fabbione> tonyyarusso: pong
[05:32] <Manyfold> tritium: x server is ok no probs with the hardware it's only when i log in and it's only when gconfd is running everything else is fine
[05:33] <infonomic> tritium: yes but still not working...
[05:33] <tritium> Manyfold: I understand that.  How about the answer to my question?
[05:33] <Manyfold> tritium: of course i installed linux-image-k7
[05:33] <tritium> infonomic: which printer?
[05:33] <fbc> kitche:  if there any way of forcing it to redetect hardware_
[05:33] <ForceTen> if anyone has a second I have a question i have not been able to resolve in the ubuntu forums ....  Question is this ...since upgrading to Edgy Eft I no longer can use my wireless nic in my laptop... it is not in /etc/network/interfaces  I did configure the interface into the interfaces file but could not ping the gateway from the wireless nic.  now my eth0 interface works fine as i am on the net now with my laptop...thanks
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> fabbione: Wondering how you keep the ubuntulog files separated by day.  Is that a script/cronjob kind of setup?  I'd like to do the same, not for public logs, but just organizing mine.
[05:33] <Manyfold> tritium: installed nvidia-glx
[05:33] <tritium> Manyfold: yes, but did you update/upgrade packages?
[05:33] <fbc> kitche: ?
[05:33] <fabbione> tonyyarusso: logrotate
[05:33] <kitche> fbc: um there might be not sure if ubuntu has that feature
[05:33] <Manyfold> tritium: installed linux-restricted-modules
[05:33] <tritium> Manyfold: if not, please try doing so to get the latest/greatest
[05:34] <desertfish> can someone tell me how to list available packages (e.g., anything that matches 'ssh') using apt-get?
[05:34] <fbc> Does anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware_
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> fabbione: No way...just install and away we go?  That easy?
[05:34] <fbc> Does anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?
[05:34] <jmark> apt-cache search ssh
[05:34] <tritium> Manyfold: i.e., "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"
[05:34] <infonomic> tritium: add print in gnome-app does nada
[05:34] <fabbione> tonyyarusso: you need to confgure it to do the right thing.
[05:34] <caminomaster> Hi. Where can I configure actualization manager to connect without a proxy? I've set synaptic to direct connection but don't connect...
[05:34] <tritium> infonomic: which printer?
[05:34] <fabbione> logrotate is already on your syste
[05:34] <infonomic> tritium: DJ-450C, parallesl
[05:35] <Manyfold> tritium: my system is up to date
[05:35] <fbc> Does anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> fabbione: I assume the manpage shall cover that.  Anyway, awesome; thanks.
[05:35] <tritium> Manyfold: okay, I'm out of ideas, other than searching for bugs reported against gconfd
[05:35] <desertfish> THANK YOU jmark
[05:35] <fabbione> tonyyarusso: or check in /etc/logrotate for some examples
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Cool
[05:35] <Aoirthoi1> How all..I am back
[05:35] <Aoirthoi1> :)
[05:36] <Manyfold> tritium: my system is up to date
[05:36] <timfrost> jmark, you may find that you actually only need the headers. try installing linux-headers-$(uname -r), then try rebuilding the nvidia driver.
[05:36] <Manyfold> tritium: where to search?
[05:36] <mighty_falcon> does amarok not support network shares?
[05:36] <Aoirthoi1> If anyone has time Ive a couple of questions (broke my system)
[05:36] <fbc> Does anyone know of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?
[05:36] <tritium> jmworx: why are you not using the ubuntu packages?
[05:36] <infonomic> tritium: HP is very well supprtd under Dapper... nt sure what to chk nxt...???
[05:36] <tritium> !repeat > fbc
[05:36] <tritium> infonomic: right, it should "just work"
[05:36] <mathieu_> hibernation is failing and I don't know why, just purchased a new laptop
[05:37] <mighty_falcon> anyone know if there is any way to add a network share in amarok?
[05:37] <tritium> mathieu_: do you have a swap partition?
[05:37] <fbc> tritium:  what does that mean?
[05:37] <infonomic> tritium: but it does not and I've seen other with same symptoms on the net...
[05:37] <tritium> fbc: it means ubotu should send you a message about repeating
[05:37] <mathieu_> tritium: yes and it is activated
[05:37] <mathieu_> tritium: and it is 2 gigs and i only have 750mb ram
[05:38] <tritium> mathieu_: hmm...
[05:38] <infonomic> Is the symptom i'm exprncg a bug???
[05:38] <tritium> infonomic: it comes up in my printer setup utility
[05:38] <pluto> Hello.  How can I detect the make & model of my sound card?
[05:38] <tritium> infonomic: you select HP, and search for it?
[05:39] <timfrost> jmark, is there a reason for not using the nvidia driver that is packaged with Ubuntu ( nvidia-glx 1.0.8762 for dapper)
[05:39] <infonomic> I see the driver but: get ho no_device_found and no printerdetctd
[05:40] <fbc> Does anyone know where I can find someone who knows of a way to make Ubuntu redetect hardware?
[05:40] <tritium> fbc: what's the issue?
[05:40] <jmworx> tritium: why am I not using what?
[05:40] <baxter_kylie> Hi. I need a little help. I've just set dapper up on a new machine with an atheros based wifi card. I can connect to my network and ping objects on the lan and out of the lan but I'm not getting any dns resolution. The interfaces and resolv.conf file are identical to the one on this system (xubuntu). What could be the problem?
[05:40] <tritium> jmworx: sorry, wrong nick, due to tab completion
[05:40] <fbc> tritium: I need to have it detect my wireless card.. It was disabled during installation.
[05:40] <tritium> fbc: you don't need to re-detect hardware.  Is it enabled now?
[05:41] <fbc> tritium:  yes
[05:41] <tritium> fbc: okay, does iwconfig list it?
[05:41] <fbc> tritium:  standby
[05:41] <tritium> fbc: operators are standing by
[05:41] <Aoirthoi1> tritium...im having a similar issue
[05:41] <fbc> tritium:  yes it lists it..
[05:42] <fbc> tritium:  broadcom 4318
[05:42] <tritium> fbc: cool, you're in business.  Now, you can configure it with the gui tool, or via command line.  Your choice.
[05:42] <tritium> !wireless
[05:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:42] <tritium> Aoirthoi1: see URL above
[05:42] <Aoirthoi1> I tried to get my wifi up..and it seemed to recognized..but I had wired eth0 set to static ip..so I thought that was the cause of the wifi not working and deleted all settings in my lan sections
[05:42] <infonomic> tritium: I see no /dev/lp0...lp2 and even if I tr to MAKEDEV them they dont seem to work (pmssns are ok)
[05:42] <desertfish> Damnit.    What happens?
[05:43] <infonomic> tritium: why not??? I have missing /de/lp* files....
[05:43] <baxter_kylie> Aoirthoil: it's sudO
[05:43] <baxter_kylie> (little 'o')
[05:43] <Aoirthoi1> baxter thats a type but yes I know
[05:43] <desertfish> and a whole lotta sud
[05:43] <fbc> tritium:  the networking tool in ubunto wont do it is there something else_
[05:43] <CientificoLoco> hello wverybody I wanna know whic one manager of wireless o Lan is better??
[05:43] <fbc> tritium: ?
[05:44] <bluefox83> !multimedia
[05:44] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[05:44] <tritium> fbc: you may need to use ndiswrapper.  She the wiki page for details
[05:44] <tritium> infonomic: just answer please
[05:44] <Aoirthoi1> when I type sudo I get the msg: sudo: unable to lookup joe-nb via gethostbyname()
[05:44] <rdouglas> :-)
[05:45] <desertfish> is there something like a network config utility (command line)
[05:45] <Aoirthoi1> (joe-nb is the hostname on my laptop..but as I said I deleted all network settings without realizing what I had done)
[05:45] <baxter_kylie> desertfish: There are the files related to network in /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/hosts
[05:45] <bluefox83> !restricted formats
[05:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:45] <infonomic> tritium: search for model find it in HP list, suggest HPLIP, apply but no printr added
[05:45] <tritium> infonomic: udev creates and removes device nodes in /dev when hardware is discovered or removed from your system.  Don't be so sure you're mising /dev/lp*
[05:45] <grndslm> infonomic, is there a /dev/usblp0?
[05:46] <baxter_kylie> desertfish: you can also reset your network with the command /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:46] <fbc> tritium:  the wiki tells me the ndiswrapper is the defunct method, as dapper now has it build in..
[05:46] <baxter_kylie> desertfish: other commands include ifup, ifdown, ifconfig, iwconfig, and iwlist
[05:46] <wastrel> Aoirthoi1:  you'll need to boot into rescue mode and fix the /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts  files
[05:46] <bieb> has anyone configured a Dell DJ30 (ipod like) with Ubuntu?
[05:46] <grndslm> infonomic, what kinda hp is it?
[05:46] <fbc> tritium: eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[05:46] <fbc>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[05:46] <fbc>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[05:46] <fbc>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[05:46] <fbc>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[05:46] <kitche> grndslm: it's parallel printer from what he said just so you know :)
[05:46] <fbc>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[05:46] <tritium> fbc: yes, that should be true. Ack, please don't paste.
[05:47] <grndslm> ahh...nevermind
[05:47] <desertfish> thank you, baxter_kylie.  those files are useful.  Resetting my networking isn't getting me a valid DHCP lease, so I'm going to try to manually configure an IP address
[05:47] <tritium> fbc, infonomic: sorry, I have to get going.
[05:47] <Geoffrey2> anyone know if the Windows version of Adobe Acrobat reader will work under Wine?
[05:47] <fbc> tritium: ok thanks.
[05:47] <Aoirthoi1> wastrel rebooting now:)
[05:47] <tritium> Geoffrey2: there is an ubuntu package
[05:47] <kitche> fbc: do sudo ifconfig essid <yourAP essid>
[05:47] <Aoirthoi1> ok is that the same as recovery mode?
[05:47] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: May I ask why you would want to do that?
[05:47] <tritium> fbc: try installing network-manager-gnome
[05:47] <wastrel> yes
[05:48] <desertfish> oh, jeezis.  this 'interfaces' thing is quite robust
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> tritium, yes, I know....but apparently there are some features that the Linux version doesn't support
[05:48] <fbc> tritium:  ok
[05:48] <tritium> Geoffrey2: maybe so
[05:48] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: which?
[05:48] <infonomic> tritium: grndslm: no /dev/usblp* found
[05:48] <kitche> Geoffrey2: it's almost the same application
[05:48] <Aoirthoi1> Thanks Wastrel..coming up in recovery mode now
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, in particular, the ability to fill in documents and then save the changes
[05:49] <starsky> ***Ubuntu is the best****
[05:49] <infonomic> grndslm: any clue on wht's going south???
[05:49] <michael___> !nonfree codecs
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nonfree codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <kitche> Geoffrey2: umm Reader doesn't do that anyways not even in Windows sine it can only Read pdf's
[05:49] <Aoirthoi1> ok I am there.. /etc/hostname has the name of my notebook (joe-nb)
[05:49] <Geoffrey2> kitche, in Windows, yes it does
[05:50] <Aoirthoi1> I assume that is correct?
[05:50] <fbc> tritium:  I installed it but where do I find it__
[05:50] <michael___> !codecs
[05:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:50] <starsky> !evince
[05:50] <ubotu> evince: Document (postscript, pdf) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 676 kB, installed size 3176 kB
[05:50] <baxter_kylie> Anyone have *any* idea whatsoever why I wouldn't be getting dns resolution?
[05:50] <infonomic> !printers
[05:50] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:50] <starsky> !lpr
[05:50] <ubotu> lpr: BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2005.05.01 (dapper), package size 111 kB, installed size 404 kB
[05:51] <timfrost> Aoirthoi1: that is correct.  But is there a line with that name in /etc/hosts?
[05:51] <fbc> kitche:  where do I find the netwrok-managergnome?? it didn seem to make an icon..
[05:52] <Aoirthoi1> timfrost no..I just did a search on the forums and came up with this link http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273344&highlight=%2Fetc%2Fhosts
[05:52] <kitche> Geoffrey2: yeah I see it know but linux version does the same thing so why waste RAm on Wine
[05:52] <Aoirthoi1> So I am assuming I have to have a line like that in order to sudo aetc?
[05:52] <wasabi_> Geoffrey2 is correct. Adobe Reader on Windows lets you edit fields.
[05:52] <wasabi_> And fill in forms.
[05:52] <wasabi_> And hit buttons.
[05:52] <ArrenLex> And cure cancer.
[05:52] <kitche> Geoffrey2: but the form has to be able to do that to save what you type in
[05:52] <wasabi_> Never ever seen a reason to ever use that. Even on windows.
[05:52] <kitche> fbc: Systems
[05:52] <ianmacgregor> fbc: System -> Administration -> Networking?
[05:53] <baxter_kylie> wasabi_: I occasionally use it to clear up melanoma.
[05:53] <timfrost> Aoirthoi1: yes.
[05:53] <baxter_kylie> I like dark suntans. ;-)
[05:53] <wasabi_> And no, Evince does not support it. Evince is a document viewer, not a web browser.
[05:53] <utnubu> for ubuntu after doing su how do you get back out of su?
[05:53] <starsky> everyone compare it. acroread is no competition for evince. Evince *is* the fastest pdf reader you can get for Gnu/Linux
[05:53] <Aoirthoi1> thanks Timfrost and wastrel
[05:54] <ianmacgregor> utnubu: type: exit
[05:54] <ArrenLex> starsky: kpdf.
[05:54] <Aoirthoi1> going to give it a try now
[05:54] <wasabi_> Adobe does release a native LInux version of their reader software.
[05:54] <utnubu> thanks
[05:54] <wasabi_> Dunno how good it is though. It used to be very poor.
[05:54] <wasabi_> It's also closed
[05:54] <timfrost> Aoirthoi1: good luck
[05:54] <starsky> ArrenLex: do some calculations. you'll see what I'm talking about.
[05:54] <fbc> kitche:  Is there another network mamanger I can try that might work with my card_
[05:55] <kitche> fbc: don't know I only use ifconfig myself
[05:55] <ArrenLex> starsky: they're based on the same backend -- poppler. That means render speed is the same. kpdf is faster because it is more integrated into a qt system than evince is into a gtk system, and because kpdf is written in c++, as is poppler, whereas evince is written and c and has to use code to interface with poppler.
[05:55] <baxter_kylie> Anyone... dns resolution issues... ? Madwifi? Is there a special client module I'm supposed to have? Was madwifi supposed to be compiled with a certain flag?
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> so, am I correct that the Linux version of Adobe Reader does NOT let you edit fields?  or is something on my version just not set up properly?
[05:56] <starsky> kpdf, will have it's own bottlenecks because it needs kdelibs
[05:56] <kitche> baxter_kylie: make sure your card is active and dhcpcd
[05:56] <wasabi_> ArrenLex: There's no measurable speed thing moving from C to C++.
[05:56] <Aoirthoi1> ok Ive changed it so I assume just a reboot is in order?
[05:56] <kitche> Geoffrey2: it does let you edit fields
[05:56] <baxter_kylie> kitche: It's a static network. Card is active. I can ping lan and wan objects successfully.
[05:56] <starsky> btw, gnome is the wm of choice for ubuntu <winks>
[05:56] <ArrenLex> KDE is life.
[05:57] <kitche> baxter_kylie: have you set up /etc/resolv.conf correctly
[05:57] <timfrost> Aoirthoi1: yes.
[05:57] <Aoirthoi1> Thanks again Timfrost...rebooting
[05:57] <baxter_kylie> kitche: Yup. It's a direct copy/past resolv.conf from /this/ machine.
[05:57] <wasabi_> Geoffrey2: You mean Adobe's Reader, from Adobe's web site? Or do you mean Evince?
[05:57] <Aoirthoi1> I only have one ethernet cable (for some reason my others went bad on me) so after the reboot I might switch cables and see if I can get the eth0 going again
[05:58] <DaveyJ> quick question.. whats the kde equiv for init.d's gdm
[05:58] <wasabi_> kdm
[05:58] <DaveyJ> to stop the service
[05:58] <DaveyJ> kdm! i'm an idiot!
[05:58] <DaveyJ> thanks lol :)
[05:58] <wasabi_> LAWL!
[05:58] <joeCoT> hey kids
[05:58] <kitche> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/acrruserguide.pdf read that it says the you can edit the fields and save them only if the form allows it
[05:58] <rexkwando> What would be some symptoms of a motherboard going terminal?
[05:59] <Aoirthoi1> aha that got me to the networking information
[05:59] <Aoirthoi1> so I can sudo again..thanks tim
[05:59] <Madpilot> rexkwando, random crashes & freezing?
[05:59] <omkarenator> problems on sata hdd
[05:59] <Geoffrey2> Adobe's reader...ok, then something isn't set up right on mine, because I keep getting an error message about a plug-in not being available
[05:59] <omkarenator> ubuntu cannot detect partitions on my sata hdd
[06:00] <omkarenator> can anyone help?
[06:00] <Aoirthoi1> ok changing cables...going to the laptop so brb
[06:00] <wasabi_> Geoffrey2: Did you install Adobe's reader, from Adobe's web site?
[06:00] <wasabi_> Oh looks like we've got it in multiverse.
[06:00] <starsky> Davey3: if you are talking about the display manager then it's kdm
[06:00] <wasabi_> acroread.
[06:01] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: First start up parted on the drive device... parted /dev/sd[]
[06:01] <wasabi_> acroread-plugins
[06:01] <rexkwando> Madpilot:  yup, I was afraid of that
[06:01] <starsky> acroread has so many bo!. don't use it.
[06:01] <wasabi_> acroread is going to be the thing that supporst PDF forms.
[06:01] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: Then use the 'print' command to see what is printed out in the partition tables
[06:01] <wasabi_> evince most certainly does not.
[06:01] <starsky> :)
[06:01] <wasabi_>  If you need to complete fillable forms, you will need to install the
[06:01] <wasabi_>  acroread-plugins package.
[06:01] <wasabi_> ^ from the package description
[06:01] <Jia>
[06:02] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: If parted finds your partitions and their filesystems then it's probably a mount issue.
[06:02] <epp> I have a lenovo thinkpad z60m. I run winecfg and when i click on the audio tab the gui freezes. No sound works in my games run with wine... what can i do?
[06:02] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: if parted does not find your partitions then either the drive is bad or the partition tables are just screwed.
[06:03] <omkarenator> yeah , u know in device manager i can see the partitions but gparted isnt showing them
[06:03] <starsky> wasabi_: forms are coming soon to evince. http://live.gnome.org/Evince/Forms
[06:04] <wasabi_> Nifty.
[06:04] <omkarenator> i even mounted partitions using mount
[06:04] <omkarenator> but gparted is showing them as unallocated
[06:05] <Aoirthoir> Timfrost and Wastrel, thanks again, you got me back up.
[06:05] <Aoirthoir> Thought I was going to have to reinstall
[06:05] <omkarenator> where does the device manager get its information?
[06:05] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: I'm not interested in gparted... I don't usually trust the gui tools.
[06:05] <ianmacgregor> I'm getting a weird error from nautilus: http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9060/httperrorvn3.jpg Why is this error happening?
[06:05] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: just run old-school parted and use the print command
[06:06] <omkarenator> but isn't it the only tool available for install
[06:06] <ArrenLex> ianmacgregor: because nautlius is not a browser?
[06:06] <Aoirthoir> I will figure out how to do wireless another day:)
[06:06] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: what tool? are you in the gui installation or text mode?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> ianmacgregor: if you want a file manager which doubles as a browser, you want konqueror =P
[06:06] <rexkwando> I'll just be bubbling along, connected to the 'net and suddenly, my wifi card will just stop, lights out.  Rebbot, and it's back again, but it's happening more frequently lately and my sound locked into a loop yesterday that required a hard reboot.  So, that's probably a dying mobo, right?
[06:06] <omkarenator> gui
[06:06] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: you can just open a terminal window
[06:06] <Geoffrey2> wasabi_, thanks, that took care of it
[06:06] <ianmacgregor> ArrenLex: I realise that, but since it can do ftp and ssh I just figured it would call gnome open and launch Firefox.
[06:07] <ianmacgregor> ArrenLex: KDE?  Thanks
[06:07] <wasabi_> 's web dav)
[06:07] <baxter_kylie> *throws another line* Anyone want to help a fella with some STRANGE dns issues?
[06:07] <omkarenator> what if i see ptns , what next, how to proceed form thereon in text mode
[06:07] <mallorie> question...the best file sharing program that is a easy install???
[06:08] <LinuXubuntu> Hello you all people! I have a little doubt: why do I unistall samba? (I used apt-get install samba to install it)
[06:08] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: well if the partitions appear and have filesystems you're probably in good shape and it's just a matter of mounting.
[06:08] <enyawix> the cd will not boot on my system. can i install from inside debian somhow
[06:09] <omkarenator> where do i mount ptns ?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> enyawix,  did you burn this cd yourself?
[06:09] <joeCoT> baxter_kylie: only if you help me build a working 64-bit iceweasel ;P
[06:09] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: whereever you want.
[06:09] <enyawix> Dr_willis yes
[06:09] <capt-rogers> i finally figured out the root user issue when using ubuntu.  just login using the standard user account you made during the install, then when your logged in 'sudo bash' (not suer if thats right, but thats what i use)
[06:09] <omkarenator> ok what after mounting ptns?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> enyawix,  and how did you burn it.. check the cd.. what files are on it..
[06:09] <enyawix> boots cd crashes
[06:09] <Syd_Barrett_> guys... good night... i would like to know if Ubuntu Dapper uses NPTL or Linux-Threads
[06:10] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: generall you just create an empty folder in /media or /mnt
[06:10] <Dr_willis> enyawix,  Hmm crashes where? first you said it dident boot.. now its crashing. :)
[06:10] <enyawix> sorry
[06:10] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: I'm still not certain what you want to do with this drive.
[06:10] <capt-rogers> any if anything goes wrong...press ESC during the grub menu and choose the RECOVER option...you logged in as root.
[06:10] <enyawix> i do not count a crash as a real boot
[06:11] <SuperMiguel> i just install an email server how can i use it?
[06:11] <baxter_kylie> joeCOT: It can't be that bad. You just get a 64 bit firefox source replace the artwork and trademarks and you're done... right?
[06:11] <enyawix> i hate the version of debian i have installed
[06:11] <cheesy> hi
[06:11] <omkarenator> i have a sata hdd, having 6 to 7 ptns, on which one is reiserfs and one swap (of prev disrto) I want ot install ubuntu on that reiserfs ptn
[06:12] <ArrenLex> Once movies came out with sound many actors/actresses such as VilmaBanky  were fired because they didnt have the voice that the producers wanted.
[06:12] <menko> Hi, how do I set keyboard shorcuts for menu items in nautilus permanently? I went over, e.g, show hidden files and changed it to , . When I log in again it's back to ctrl+H.
[06:12] <ArrenLex> ...
[06:12] <ArrenLex> that was totally the wrong window.
[06:12] <ArrenLex> Sorry. xD
[06:12] <omkarenator> but gparted isnt showing my ptns saying unallocated
[06:12] <whyso> could anyone possibly link me to a list of cool pachages
[06:12] <ClayG> what is the general thought on Edgy? is it stable enough to play with?
[06:12] <Dsbeerf> Hi, is there a way to see those flash they ask for flash 8 ? in ubuntu ?
[06:13] <joeCoT> baxter_kylie: I'm getting runtime errors when i'm using the Gnuzilla release, or using the firefox source tar with the gnuzilla cvs changes. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278869 i'm stumped. i emailed gnuzilla's mailing list about it
[06:13] <ianmacgregor> menko: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/KeyboardShortcuts
[06:13] <whyso> i tried edgy kubuntu clay and it totally crashed
[06:13] <cheesy> i want to have a partition with data used by ubuntu and win. what would be the best format?
[06:13] <Syd_Barrett_> guys... good night... i would like to know if Ubuntu Dapper uses NPTL or Linux-Threads
[06:13] <ArrenLex> cheesy: fat32
[06:13] <cheesy> kk
[06:13] <ianmacgregor> menko: You might also be interested in this: http://ianmacgregor.org/wiki/Linux/NautilusScripts
[06:13] <crimsun> Syd_Barrett_: latter.
[06:13] <menko> ianmacgregor: thanks, I'll look at that, and that as well.
[06:14] <Syd_Barrett_> crimsun, thanks :-)
[06:14] <crimsun> Syd_Barrett_: one of the first 'transitions' in Edgy was for NPTL.
[06:14] <cheesy> just read linux could read n write ntfs too
[06:14] <ianmacgregor> menko: You're welcome :)
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> I seem to have turned off the ability to display images in Thunderbird, and am not sure how it happened.
[06:14] <whyso> i think its risky to write to ntfs
[06:14] <cheesy> but the good ol' fat32 should be save :)
[06:14] <BelialMkII> cheesy, It can Write to ntfs, but from experience, its hardly reliable, fat32 is much safer
[06:14] <cheesy> k
[06:15] <cheesy> thanks for your help
[06:15] <BelialMkII> I did see a ext3 driver for nt/xp s well
[06:15] <omkarenator> baxter_kylie: r u there?
[06:15] <BelialMkII> but i think it was read only, cant remember offhand
[06:15] <cheesy> next thing i do is format c:
[06:15] <cheesy> good night
[06:15] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: It sounds like the partition table is not loved by gparted. I'd copy any necessary data off that drive to spare and use old-school parted to and mkfs to make a new partition table and set everything up with the right file system
[06:15] <enyawix> is a small iso offered like 100mb?
[06:15] <joeCoT> the ext3 drivers for windows are fine, using fuse for for ntfs writing works fine. worst thing i've seen happen is the file _not_writing and no changes being made. and it's fast
[06:16] <omkarenator> but how device manager is showing ptns?????????
[06:16] <joeCoT> and can handle higher than 4gb files (dvd rips?). I'd go with either ext3 or ntfs and just deal with the setup in windows or linux
[06:16] <omkarenator> and not gparted
[06:16] <host`> are you saying that using fuse won't do damage to the ntfs partition?
[06:16] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: I don't know. To be quite honest I've never had good luck with the gui installation cd. I'm a text-mode installer kid all the way.
[06:17] <BelialMkII> heh joe, last time i used an ntfs with writing on linux, i deleted a directory of irc logs (Loits of smal . mid sized files) few ours later put a video on it, rebooted never to be seeeing that partitionj again
[06:17] <Metalcore> I'm trying to configure the QT JACK control interface, and whenever i try to start the server, it says it can not connect to the Jack server as a client
[06:17] <joeCoT> The info i've seen on fuse says it's safe. I haven't tried it, your mileage may vary
[06:17] <omkarenator> yea i use slackware, which uses text mode for whatching movis
[06:17] <enyawix> ?
[06:17] <enyawix> joke
[06:18] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: Save yourself the heartache. Get the alternate install cd.
[06:18] <crimsun> Metalcore: you need to install jackd, too.
[06:18] <omkarenator> alternate install cd.??
[06:18] <enyawix> alternate install cd.??
[06:18] <enyawix> what is that
[06:18] <enyawix> url
[06:18] <Metalcore> crimsun, I already have.
[06:19] <joeCoT> text-mode install. it's the different iso
[06:19] <starsky_> omkarenator: parted /dev/[s-d] [a/b/c]  print ??? what was so hard about this?
[06:19] <enyawix> text-mode install. yes that is what i want
[06:19] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: If you've used slackware you'll be perfectly happy with that. It's, essentially, a text-mode installer.
[06:19] <enyawix> where is that
[06:19] <crimsun> Metalcore: dpkg -l jackd|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[06:19] <baxter_kylie> Right on the same page as the download links for the full isos.
[06:19] <mikey> can someone help me with my wireless connection
[06:20] <omkarenator> ok i will try txt mode and then i wil com eback
[06:20] <omkarenator> if failed, thank u
[06:20] <baxter_kylie> omkarenator: Best of luck
[06:20] <Metalcore> crimsun: 0.100.0-4
[06:20] <Jia> I downloaded a .tar.gz file, which folder should I extract it to and install best?
[06:21] <mikey> i have a hawking HWP54G and i cannot connect to the internet with it
[06:21] <crimsun> Metalcore: pidof jackd
[06:21] <SuperMiguel> mikey why
[06:21] <Metalcore> 15062
[06:21] <Metalcore> man pidof
[06:22] <Aoirthoir> thanks for the help yall
[06:22] <Metalcore> oops. sorry bout that >_>
[06:22] <Aoirthoir> it is much appreciated
[06:22] <Aoirthoir> exit
[06:22] <Aoirthoir> er
[06:22] <Xaphoo> is there a gnome dictionary/thesaurus program like kdict ?\
[06:23] <Juhaz> gnome-dictionary?
[06:23] <wastrel> Xaphoo:  if you find out, let me know
[06:23] <mikey> i am new to ubuntu and i don't know how to make the wireless work
[06:23] <SuperMiguel> Juhaz: a dictionary is a book wher you can look for the meaning of a word
[06:23] <whyso> a cool feature for gnome would be a one line terninal that sits in  the top bar
[06:23] <Metalcore> crimsun: 15062
[06:24] <whyso> is there anything like that out there yet?
[06:24] <whyso> that way you could enter single commands without having to open terminal
[06:24] <Juhaz> SuperMiguel, I'm quite aware of dictionary definition of dictionary
[06:24] <SuperMiguel> Juhaz: you dont you make ** comments like dictionary :O whats that
[06:25] <crimsun> Metalcore: was jackd started by qjackctl, or did you start it prior (by hand)?
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> is there a command to check how much memory my box is reading in the console?
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> I need to make sure all my ram is registering
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> Xaphoo: would you like to use a web page?
[06:25] <wastrel> whyso:  there is one
[06:25] <wastrel> whyso:  deskbar applet
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> sure
[06:25] <SuperMiguel> Xaphoo: would you like to use a web page?
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> just anything to check my hardware
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> def
[06:25] <AdamMK> i'm trying to share a folder over a home network to a windows comp, but when i try to access the folder on the windows comp, it asks me for a username and pass. i try putting in every1 i know but it still doesn't allow access. can i turn this off/fix it?
[06:25] <nosoapdotorg> yes
[06:26] <Xaphoo> I don't care, I was just wondering if there was anything as handy as a panel applet where I could look up the word
[06:26] <Xaphoo> I don't care what the output is like
[06:26] <whyso> thanks wastrel
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> AdamMK: add a new user and put it on samba, reboot samba and your computer
[06:26] <timthelion> hey. I managed to make it so that all gtk apps segfault emediatly. any clue how I would go about fixing this issue?
[06:26] <SuperMiguel> Xaphoo: will www.dictionary.com works?
[06:26] <bimberi> AdamMK: sudo smbpasswd -a <yourusername>  (sets up an account in Samba's password database)
[06:26] <Juhaz> Xaphoo, have you ever looked? there's "dictionary lookup applet" installed by default
[06:26] <mon^rch> is there a keystroke in xchat to show/hide the userlist???? (for some reason there isn't one)
[06:27] <bimberi> AdamMK: shouldn't need to restart anything
[06:27] <Juhaz> and deskbar can look up dictionary words too, if you want
[06:27] <Xaphoo> ah damn, that was dumb of me not to see that
[06:28] <Xaphoo> thanks :)
[06:28] <Xaphoo> sorry for cluttering the channel
[06:28] <astroboy> Any news on a release date for Edgy Eft ?
[06:28] <crimsun> !schedule > astroboy
[06:28] <bimberi> astroboy: Oct 26 is the target
[06:28] <SuperMiguel> !news
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <astroboy> Good, I can wait ..
[06:29] <ClayG> anyoner know anything about buying a hp dv6000 laptop and getting the cheap one but later adding/replacing the cpu for a goodone? (as in better can you do this without soldering?")
[06:29] <AdamMK> thanks i'll try it
[06:29] <astroboy> crimsun: thanks.
[06:29] <bug_> hi.. does anyone know if the module (in modconf..) kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt250 will work with the nintendo usb wifi adapter? (or if the thing is supported in linux--i know that it is supported with ralink/"ral-rt2561" drivers in openbsd...)
[06:30] <SuperMiguel> !release
[06:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[06:30] <Metalcore> crimsun, it was started by qtjackctl
[06:31] <crimsun> Metalcore: I need verbose debug spew pastebinned.
[06:33] <GhostFreeman> !root
[06:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:33] <SuperMiguel> !imbored
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imbored - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <SuperMiguel> what can you do with a server
[06:34] <SuperMiguel> ?
[06:34] <foo> http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4900981 - I am going to buy this 19" widescreen. Should I be worried about ubuntu compatibility with fluxbox?
[06:34] <mikm[laptop] > host webpages, files
[06:35] <mikm[laptop] > have an email server
[06:35] <mikm[laptop] > Stream media
[06:35] <joeCoT> run a torrent, fold at home
[06:35] <SuperMiguel> when you install a email server how do you use it?
[06:35] <mikm[laptop] > Servers aren't needed for fold@home
[06:35] <joeCoT> milk: yeah, but it can't hurt :)
[06:36] <starsky> does launchpad go offline often ?
[06:36] <SuperMiguel> umm?
[06:36] <mikm[laptop] > True, but if it's going to be under load, installing unnecessary things like f@h, boinc, etc. isn't the best idea
[06:36] <mighty_falcon> is there any setting in beryl to hide ur menuar? i loged on and my meny bar (the bar with maximize, minimize etc) is complete gone, and even when i try to apply a new emerald theme nothing happens
[06:36] <mighty_falcon> menubar*
[06:36] <starsky> launchpad.net
[06:37] <SuperMiguel> beside web hosting any other good intersting thing about home servers?
[06:37] <mighty_falcon> no ne?
[06:37] <mighty_falcon> one*
[06:38] <wastrel> beryl is edgy isn't it?
[06:38] <mighty_falcon> nop
[06:38] <mikm[laptop] > beryl = compiz fork
[06:38] <wastrel> i mean it's in edgy
[06:39] <mikm[laptop] > No
[06:39] <mikm[laptop] > It's separate
[06:39] <david_> hi, my wireless card detects other networks, but I can't connect to anything
[06:40] <wastrel> cdrecord is barfing
[06:40] <SuperMiguel> beside web hosting any other good intersting thing about home servers?
[06:41] <joeCoT> um, myth tv server? general file server? print server? router? firewall?
[06:41] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: if you have a laptop you can set it up so it forwards connection details to your server every time it starts up... can help if it gets stolen...
[06:41] <SuperMiguel> what is an general file server
[06:42] <joeCoT> as in, a server to host files on the network
[06:42] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: you put files on it. And then, when you need them, you get them back.
[06:42] <SuperMiguel> like ftp?
[06:42] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: add it to a compile farm? A render farm?
[06:42] <SuperMiguel> umm
[06:42] <SuperMiguel> anything else fun
[06:43] <wastrel> imap
[06:43] <joeCoT> lol. what do you expect out of the server?
[06:43] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: you can put a cape on it and call it SuperComputer.
[06:43] <wastrel> music server - stream music off of it
[06:43] <SuperMiguel> i tried but the cape was to big so i wasnt able to see my computer
[06:44] <ArrenLex> Why am I not surprised?
[06:44] <SuperMiguel> cuze you know me
[06:44] <david_> anyone know about wireless?
[06:44] <SuperMiguel> i do
[06:44] <SuperMiguel> you dont use cables xD
[06:45] <omkarenator> baxter kylie: parted /dev/sda9 print , showed me my ptn as reiserfs
[06:45] <david_> my card can see access points, but can't connect
[06:45] <SuperMiguel> what card is it?
[06:45] <david_> even if the strength is reasonable
[06:45] <SuperMiguel> broadcon?
[06:45] <david_> awlh3025
[06:45] <david_> I believe it is TI chipset
[06:45] <omkarenator> that means its understanding ptn table
[06:45] <SuperMiguel> imm any wep key?
[06:46] <omkarenator> but how to tell ubuntu installer that install ubuntu on /dev/sda9
[06:46] <RagePrblm> Anyone awake
[06:46] <SuperMiguel> me
[06:46] <mighty_falcon> is there any setting in beryl to hide ur menuar? i loged on and my meny bar (the bar with maximize, minimize etc) is complete gone, and even when i try to apply a new emerald theme nothing happens
[06:46] <RagePrblm> Do you know what uname means in this sentence?
[06:46] <RagePrblm> sudo apt-get update
[06:46] <RagePrblm> err wrong sentence
[06:46] <omkarenator> baxter_kylie: ?
[06:46] <ArrenLex> There are 841 people in the channel right now, RagePrblm. Someone is bound to be awake.
[06:46] <RagePrblm> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:47] <david_> no wep key
[06:47] <RagePrblm> would I just paste that in, or is uname like my username
[06:47] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: sounds to me like beryl crashed. Can you run it manually?
[06:47] <mikm[laptop] > uname is a command
[06:47] <mikm[laptop] > paste it in directly
[06:47] <RagePrblm> oh ok
[06:47] <RagePrblm> thanks
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> uname is a command
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> lol
[06:47] <SuperMiguel> slow :(
[06:47] <ArrenLex> Now say "polly want a cracker".
[06:47] <david_> mighty_falcon: I have that problem also all the time
[06:48] <SuperMiguel> "polly want a cracker"
[06:48] <david_> mighty_falcon: type sudo killall gnome-panel
[06:48] <ArrenLex> Good boy!
[06:48] <mighty_falcon> even though im in kde?
[06:48] <omkarenator> how to install ubuntu in text mode using parted??? anybodY?
[06:48] <david_> mighty_falcon: oh, d'oh
[06:48] <david_> mighty_falcon: nvm.... i dunno how to do equiv in kde
[06:48] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: hmm nop cuz other then that everything is working just fiine here
[06:49] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: ad yes it did crash the first time once i rebooted so had to reboot again
[06:49] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: the equivalent to killall gnome-panel to KDE is killall kicker. I don't know how it will help you, though.
[06:49] <host`> how do I list the things that are running in order to kill them?
[06:49] <mighty_falcon> david_: :(
[06:49] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: once it crashed would i have to go through a pecial procedure?
[06:49] <omkarenator> ps
[06:49] <david_> mighty_falcon: didn't fix it?
[06:49] <lightspeedbiker> empty
[06:50] <david_> mighty_falcon: did you try what arren said?
[06:50] <Metalcore> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/808797
[06:50] <mighty_falcon> it killed everything along with the menu at the bottom
[06:50] <mighty_falcon> whats the shortcut to log off?
[06:50] <mighty_falcon> nvm got it, brb then :S
[06:51] <CppIsWeird> u do a su in terminal, and it askes for a password, i give it the password for the only account created on the ubuntu system.
[06:51] <CppIsWeird> and it says the password is wrong
[06:51] <CppIsWeird> forgot to finish that :-P
[06:51] <ArrenLex> CppIsWeird: su wants a root password. There is no root account for ubuntu. There is no right password you could ever give it. Use the "sudo" command.
[06:52] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: try passwd root first
[06:52] <CppIsWeird> thanks mon
[06:52] <mon^rch> er, sudo passwd root
[06:52] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: i installed superkaramba recently would that conflict with beryl?
[06:52] <ArrenLex> mighty_falcon: I don't see how, no.
[06:52] <omkarenator>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[06:53] <CppIsWeird> thanks lots mon
[06:53] <mighty_falcon> hmm and you do not know such an option that would disable this in beryl?
[06:53] <mon^rch> np CppIsWeird
[06:53] <host`> I'm getting an error when trying to uninstall something, it's saying that it's running and it won't kill it
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> Please enter the host name (e.g. www):server.example.com
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> Please enter the domain (e.g. xyz.de):http://example.com/
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> The URL is not reachable!
[06:53] <host`> how do I kill the process?
[06:53] <SuperMiguel> what is wrong there :S
[06:53] <mighty_falcon> well let me try this again lo off without superkaramba
[06:53] <omkarenator> baxter_kylie:r u there?
[06:54] <crimsun> Metalcore: pastebin.com is taking abnormally long to load
[06:54] <CppIsWeird> also, I seem to only have a max resolution of 800x600 (which is rather annoying). Any way to fix that?
[06:54] <ArrenLex> crimsun: pastebin.com always takes abnormally long to load. use pastebin.ca or ubuntu's pastebin
[06:54] <crimsun> ArrenLex: (yes, I know.)
[06:55] <ArrenLex> CppIsWeird: have you tried going into gnome display settings? If so, and it only offers you up to 800x600, you're going to have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and give yourself more resolutions.
[06:55] <david_> again, no ideas about wireless?
[06:55] <CppIsWeird> yeah, i waent into display properties
[06:55] <host`> wireless?
[06:55] <SuperMiguel> ti ti tio ta ta ta
[06:55] <david_> yea
[06:55] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: make sure you change youre video drivers... also reebooting works sometimes
[06:56] <david_> I can see networks, but I can't associate with any of them
[06:56] <CppIsWeird> oh, ok,
[06:56] <host`> david_, have you done /sudo iwconfig essid (essid)?
[06:56] <david_> yes
[06:56] <host`> david_, have you done '/sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid (essid)'?
[06:56] <host`> oh
[06:56] <mon^rch> I get 640X480 sometimes without an updaated vid driver
[06:56] <host`> david_, did you set any wep encryption?
[06:56] <Metalcore> crimsun: well, here: http://pastebin.ca/207737
[06:56] <david_> host`: no
[06:57] <host`> did you do dhclient wlan0?
[06:57] <host`> or did you do ifup?
[06:57] <duckdown> Hey all, what package installs the binary "php" that you run from the command line?  I need it for a de-hexing tool
[06:57] <david_> host`: actually, ironically, this I live in mountain view, this is google wifi
[06:57] <duckdown> I've installed php5
[06:57] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: yes superkaramba did conflict
[06:57] <mighty_falcon> ArrenLex: all good now
[06:58] <weex> anyone had some luck installing yahoo messenger on dapper?
[06:58] <david_> host`: i was looking on the forums and there was someone in a similar situation, since there are mulitple connection points, they actlike bridges
[06:58] <crimsun> Metalcore: what app are you attempting to connect?
[06:58] <weex> seems like it's complaining that openssl is too new
[06:58] <mighty_falcon> weex:  y not use gaim?
[06:58] <ArrenLex> weex: why not use gaim?
[06:58] <david_> host`: so they all have same channel/essid
[06:58] <weex> i wanted to try voice
[06:58] <glutGlobe> can somebody help me figure out why I have an open port on my machine, but no pid matched to it?
[06:58] <david_> host`: I thought I'd connect using the mac address, but that hasn't worked either
[06:58] <weex> i use zinc most of the time anywya
[06:58] <mighty_falcon> anyways im off for the night, tnx ArrenLex  for the advice tonight
[06:59] <Geoffrey2> sigh....whoever said patience is a virtue obviously used linux......
[06:59] <Sketcher24> hey all
[06:59] <david_> host`: part of the problem is that I don't really have a frame of reference for how powerfull the connection should be. iwconfig doesn't list decibles, it uses x/100
[06:59] <ArrenLex> weex: voice doesn't work in yahoo manager for Linux.
[07:00] <david_> host`: my connection might just not be strong enough, but I don't know how strong it should be....
[07:00] <crimsun> Metalcore: I would try doing it from a Terminal instead of through qjackctl just to test that jackd's not at fault.
[07:00] <excelblue> what does LTS mean? does it basically mean that software will be updated for a long time?
[07:00] <weex> oh too bad...still it'd be nice if could be installed
[07:00] <ArrenLex> Long Term Service.
[07:00] <host`> david_, try 'iwlist wlan0 ap'
[07:00] <baxter_kylie> hi everyone. DNS. Can someone please point out all of the modules / files related to dns client resolution?
[07:00] <host`> it will tell you the ap's available and how strong the signals are
[07:00] <crimsun> excelblue: security-wise for the main component, yes
[07:00] <excelblue> eg. if I install Ubuntu 6.06.01 LTS, will I get updates on all the software until the time?
[07:00] <david_> ok
[07:01] <excelblue> ok... so the idea is: security updates, but not version updates
[07:01] <david_> host`: spits out a list of like.... 10 mac addresses
[07:01] <host`> or iwlist wlan0 peers
[07:01] <crimsun> excelblue: correct, new upstream versions are not included by default
[07:01] <ArrenLex> excelblue: Ubuntu is basically doing what Debian already does and calling it something special.
[07:01] <Metalcore> crimsun: is that not just qtjackctl trying to connect to the jack server?
[07:01] <excelblue> ah, never used Debian for a long time before
[07:01] <glutGlobe> baxter_kylie: you should just be able to run dhclient from the base install
[07:01] <host`> it should tell you a signal strenght
[07:01] <david_> host`: the second from the top is the one i wanna connect to
[07:01] <crimsun> Metalcore: qjackctl doesn't need to.
[07:01] <Metalcore> hmm
[07:01] <host`> david_, they all have the same essids?
[07:02] <david_> with a "link quality" of 39/100
[07:02] <david_> it doesn't show essids with that command
[07:02] <david_> it shows mac addresses
[07:02] <Metalcore> and running from terminal works fine
[07:02] <baxter_kylie> glutGlobe: it's a static network.
[07:02] <host`> right, if you just do iwlist wlan0 scan
[07:02] <host`> it should still be the second from the top, maybe not, but most likely
[07:02] <oxyride> david_, 39% is fair enough
[07:02] <crimsun> Metalcore: and you can connect your jack-aware app to the running jackd instance?
[07:03] <excelblue> so, by default, is Sypnatic only set up to get security updates?
[07:03] <host`> can you set it to connect using a specific mac address?
[07:03] <glutGlobe> baxter_kylie: ... then why not just setup static ips?
[07:03] <david_> oxyride: that's what I thought, but I told iwconfig to connect to that ap and it just won't associate
[07:03] <excelblue> as well as packages associated with that specific Ubuntu version?
[07:03] <glutGlobe> can somebody help me figure out why I have an open port on my machine, but no pid matched to it?
[07:03] <crimsun> excelblue: security and small updates.
[07:03] <david_> host`: that's what I have tried to do
[07:03] <oxyride> david_, O.o
[07:04] <host`> I mean, is it possible to tell it to connect to a specific mac address
[07:04] <crimsun> excelblue: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates also
[07:04] <host`> I haven't ever tried that
[07:04] <baxter_kylie> glutGlobe: I am using static ips. DNS resolution, not dhcp problems. I can ping the wan. I can ping the lan, the gateway, the dns server itself. I'm even using the exact dns server on this machine with success but new ubuntu 6.06 install refuses to use dns resolution.
[07:05] <glutGlobe> baxter_kylie: sorry...I misread your original request...DHCP!=DNS...
[07:05] <david_> host`: you can the command is "iwconfig wlan0 ap 12:12:12:12:12:12
[07:05] <baxter_kylie> glutGlobe: No problem.
[07:05] <host`> after that did you do 'sudo dhclient wlan0'? or are you doing ifup?
[07:05] <baxter_kylie> I just want to know if some module or something is missing.
[07:06] <david_> i was using ifup
[07:06] <menko> hi, I set a new keyboard accelerator/shortcut for showing hidden files in nautilus (by pushing the key while hovering the menu item), but when I restart the application it is back to the old one (ctrl-H). So how do I make it stay permanently?
[07:06] <host`> david_, try dhclient, 'if' came broken on my install both times I installed it
[07:06] <harisund> Does anybody here have any experience with setting up OpenVPN on Ubuntu?
[07:06] <host`> it actually locks up my computer
[07:07] <david_> host`: trying now
[07:07] <host`> it's possible that it has conflicts with other peoples configurations too
[07:07] <dbglt> hey all, on upgrading to edgy, the font in openoffice is very odd and jagged (looks horrid). All other applications are fine. Is there anything I can do to fix it?
[07:07] <david_> host`: others on google wifi?
[07:08] <host`> what is google wifi?
[07:09] <david_> host`: you haven't heard? google is based in mountian view, and I live in mountian view
[07:09] <Dasnipa> google gives free wireless connection to the residents
[07:09] <host`> ahh
[07:09] <Dasnipa> of mtn view
[07:09] <david_> host`: to give back to the community, they are offering free wifi to the whole city
[07:09] <host`> that's awesome
[07:09] <david_> indeed
[07:09] <david_> if only it worked with ubuntu linux, right....
[07:09] <host`> you'll all have cancer within 10 years
[07:09] <tj_> is there a way to disable the pc speaker on a laptop?
[07:09] <SilentDis> hello :)
[07:09] <host`> it should work with linux
[07:09] <david_> david`: I know, but it will be good till then
[07:10] <host`> their end would be no different than hooking up to my router
[07:10] <Dasnipa> david_, im sure it should work with ubuntu. especially since the bulk of google employees run a modified version of ubuntu at work
[07:10] <SilentDis> quicky question:  what plugin am I looking for to play flv files in totem?
[07:10] <host`> something's bunked in your end
[07:10] <menko> hi, how do I change menu entry keyboard accelerator/shortcuts permanently? I set the for showing hidden files in nautilus (by pushing the key while hovering the menu item), but when I restarted it, it was back to the old one (ctrl-H). So how do I make it stay permanently?
[07:10] <david_> Dasnipa: I know, that's what I am thinking to myself all the time, but I am still getting nowhere
[07:10] <host`> david_, how did the dhclient work out?
[07:11] <david_> host`: nothing
[07:11] <host`> did you let it run?
[07:11] <david_> host`: tried over and over, and still didn't connect
[07:11] <baxter_kylie> host': Hehe. I think if put my wireless card at full 400mW strength with its 11db antennae birds would fall out of the sky. ;-)
[07:11] <david_> host`: yea
[07:11] <host`> it takes a while to resolve and IP
[07:11] <tj_> when i plug in headphones, the pc speaker refuses to mute... so i am looking to disable the pc speaker all together, how can i go about doing this?
[07:11] <host`> hmm
[07:11] <david_> host`: yea, it ran for like 5 min
[07:11] <host`> david_, try removing the essid
[07:11] <host`> iwconfig wlan0 essid
[07:12] <host`> iwconfig wlan0 essid nul
[07:12] <host`> or something like that
[07:12] <mon^rch> tj_:  doesn't the "volume mixer" have a mute pc speaker funct?
[07:12] <host`> and removing the mac address that you wanted to connect to
[07:12] <david_> "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid any"
[07:12] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to print out a document using Adobe Reader, the document is shifted down 1-2 inches on the page, and prints off the right side of the page...any idea how to fix this?
[07:12] <host`> essid off
[07:13] <david_> host`: k
[07:13] <tj_> mon^rch: not that i can see...
[07:13] <SilentDis> totem runs off of gstreamer, right?
[07:13] <baxter_kylie> anyone want to share their two cents on my DNS problems?
[07:13] <mon^rch> tj_: well, mine does....
[07:13] <mon^rch> hmph
[07:14] <host`> david_, 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed'
[07:15] <ZirJoker> espaol
[07:15] <host`> david_, 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap auto'
[07:15] <timfrost> !es
[07:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:15] <david_> host`: k one sec
[07:15] <host`> david_, basically reseting all the options in iwconfig, then try 'sudo dhclient wlan0'
[07:16] <david_> host`:d'oh, it connected to my neighbors
[07:16] <host`> lol
[07:16] <host`> is there something wrong with that?
[07:17] <david_> heh, it won't work on the other side of the house
[07:17] <host`> is it a laptop?
[07:17] <david_> actually it's a desktop, i just move it a bit
[07:17] <david_> long story
[07:18] <glutGlobe> *
[07:18] <host`> lol
[07:18] <david_> basically, i want the google wifi to work
[07:18] <host`> ahh
[07:18] <david_> I had some other ideas with it too tho
[07:18] <glutGlobe> -
[07:18] <david_> google wifi caps download to 1mbps
[07:18] <david_> but they also cap upload to 1mbps
[07:18] <david_> and 1mbps up is really really fast
[07:18] <host`> ehh.. yeah
[07:18] <host`> I used to bet better with my dsl
[07:19] <host`> but really it is pretty good
[07:19] <drivera90> I want a 100mbit connection. Where should I move to?
[07:19] <david_> well, down it's mediocre
[07:19] <david_> but up it is nice
[07:19] <host`> drivera90, EU
[07:19] <david_> south korea
[07:19] <david_> EU is good too
[07:20] <SilentDis> nm, found my answer.  appears you can't play flv files directly, but converting them to mpegs works - http://jadmadi.net/2006/06/22/ubuntu-howto-converting-flv-to-mpg/
[07:20] <host`> david_, had you gotten that computer to connect to your neighbors wifi before?
[07:21] <kivio> drivera90, sweden :)
[07:21] <oxyride> what's gooogle wifi?
[07:21] <drivera90> I'm paying about $200/mo here for the best available. Namely, 512kbps that doesn't ever get anything higher than 10KB/s.
[07:21] <oxyride> where?
[07:21] <SilentDis> drivera90 - a town close to me, Reedsburg, WI, offers 10mbps up/down over fiber for like $60/month.
[07:21] <david_> yea
[07:21] <host`> my up speed is 512 kb/sec
[07:21] <mon^rch> has anyone (else) had problems with themes not displaying pproperly in edgy???
[07:22] <CppIsWeird> also, I seem to only have a max resolution of 800x600 (which is rather annoying). Any way to fix that?
[07:22] <omkarenator> anybody using SATA on ubuntu ??
[07:22] <david_> oxyride: google wifi is free wifi in all of mountian view
[07:22] <SilentDis> cppisweird - try reconfiging the xserver?
[07:22] <kivio> CppIsWeird, type 'xrandr'
[07:22] <david_> oxyride: because google felt like giving back to the community
[07:22] <kivio> it lists all resolutions
[07:23] <oxyride> david_, never heard of that
[07:23] <CppIsWeird> right, and "All" the resolutions are 800x600 and below]
[07:23] <host`> david_, maybe try moving the computer to resolve an IP
[07:23] <kivio> CppIsWeird, are you using the vesa driver?
[07:23] <host`> shouldn't be needed
[07:23] <SilentDis> cppisweird - what vid card do you have, and which driver are you using?
[07:23] <host`> but I don't know what else to tell you
[07:24] <host`> you said all the essid's are the same?
[07:24] <CppIsWeird> i have no idea
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> omkarenator: I believe mine is an IDE drive but SATA interface to it.
[07:24] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: are you using the stock drivers for your video???
[07:24] <david_> oxyride: http://wifi.google.com/support
[07:24] <CppIsWeird> i installed ubuntu... what you know is what i know
[07:24] <SilentDis> ahhh
[07:24] <omkarenator> yea thats right
[07:24] <kivio> ok
[07:24] <kivio> ati or nvidia CppIsWeird?
[07:24] <CppIsWeird> there is a string identify my card in the conf file, is that what x11 picked it up as?
[07:24] <oxyride> david_, gooogle has out of my life for a long time
[07:24] <omkarenator> did u have any problem installing?
[07:25] <CppIsWeird> if that is the case, it is an ATI card
[07:25] <hollaback83> is there an uninstall disc for ubuntu
[07:25] <david_> oxyride: I don't understand
[07:25] <hollaback83> no
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> hollaback83: You don't need one..
[07:25] <host`>  Open your Internet browser, and log into the network by using your Google Account. You will be able to create an account if you need one. Please note that if you do not see the Google WiFi login page immediately, open another site such as www.google.com. This should automatically load the Google WiFi login page.
[07:25] <oxyride> david_, I cannot receive any data from gooogle
[07:25] <hollaback83> how do u uninstall
[07:25] <SilentDis> < switched to nvidia as well
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> hollaback83: Just overwrite with anything else.
[07:26] <david_> oxyride: why is that?
[07:26] <hollaback83> ok
[07:26] <david_> host`: don't I have to associate first tho?
[07:26] <oxyride> david_, not sure
[07:26] <SilentDis> hollaback83: if you installed Ubuntu, then an 'uninstall' would basically leave your machine with NOTHING (no operating system at all).  if you just booted off the cd, simply choose to reboot, and remove the cd when prompted, and you'll be back in windows land :)
[07:27] <host`> yeah
[07:27] <host`> I would think so
[07:27] <jrsims> hey, what's the edgy repo I need to hook into to upgrade my dapper?
[07:28] <david_> oxyride:
[07:28] <david_> Google WiFi is a free wireless Internet service offered in the city of Mountain View, California, as part of Googles ongoing community outreach efforts. The service is available for anyone to use, provided they have what is required to access the Google WiFi network. Google WiFi is primarily an outdoor network, although there are ways to access the Google WiFi network from inside your home or office. An exception to this is t
[07:28] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28ATI.29   (try that, but be careful!!!)
[07:28] <tec> hi i installed opera using synaptic....now i cant run it where do i load the progg....im new to linux i dont know where theprogram files folder is and opera is not in the applications button
[07:28] <oxyride> david_ , someone told me that FON is much better
[07:28] <sandy16> how to get ntfs write support in dapper 6.06 i have tried ntfs-3g but no use
[07:28] <david_> host`: tried to do the open web browser thing, didn't work....
[07:29] <david_> oxyride: FON? either way... Googlewifi is here now....
[07:29] <starsky> sandy16: ntfs write is safe (atleast that's what linux-ntfs say).
[07:29] <SilentDis> tec - did you try opening a console and just typing opera to see if that launches it?
[07:29] <oxyride> david_, ...
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> tec: Alt-F2, opera.  (You can add it to the menu later)
[07:30] <overrider> how can i start the sshd service from the command line in ubuntu?
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> overrider: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start most likely
[07:30] <starsky> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:30] <sandy16> starsky, so do i need to apt-get that linux-ntfs?
[07:30] <SilentDis> tec - if that works, you can add it to the menu using Menu > Applications > Alacarte menu editor
[07:30] <starsky> sandy16: if you are using 2.6.x kernel, it's already there
[07:30] <david_> wow, it's 10:30pm later, thanks for the help
[07:31] <oxyride> david_, if you use gooogle wiki, does it mean gooogle can collect all information about you legally?
[07:31] <tec> alt f2 did launch it though it is searching for missing pluigins it says pls install motif
[07:31] <mon^rch> CppIsWeird: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide   (this looks a lil' more promising)
[07:31] <overrider> hmm it says privilege seperation user sshd does not exist
[07:31] <oxyride> david_?
[07:31] <starsky> try mounting ntfs with -rw
[07:32] <starsky> sandy16: uname -r gives your kernel version
[07:32] <starsky> 'uname -r'
[07:32] <mnepton> overrider: how did you instal the ssh server?
[07:32] <mnepton> +l
[07:32] <SilentDis> tec - did you use an apt-get command, or synaptic, to install opera?
[07:33] <overrider> mnepton just apt-get install openssh-server
[07:33] <sandy16> starsky, mine is 2.6.15
[07:33] <mnepton> overrider: then "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start" should work
[07:33] <tec> synaptic
[07:34] <tec> i cant seem to find alacartemenu editor
[07:34] <sandy16> starsky, shall i need to edit the /etc/fstab?
[07:34] <tec> would a different menu editor just do the same
[07:34] <wastrel> ubunto
[07:34] <mnepton> tec: what version of Opera is this? IIRC, Opera 9 did away with the libmotif dependency
[07:34] <jezza> anyone know how to install kernel source for 2.6.15-27?
[07:35] <SilentDis> tec - yes
[07:35] <tec> 8.51
[07:35] <mon^rch> tec: try system>preferences>menu layout
[07:35] <starsky> sandy16: sudo mount -rw -t ntfs /dev/[s-h] d[a/b/c]  /your/mount/directory.
[07:35] <starsky> sandy16: e.g., mount -rw -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/ntfs
[07:35] <Geoffrey2> I'm looking at a long list of video drivers for the X server that are intstalled....any reason why I couldn't uninstall the drivers I don't need?
[07:35] <wastrel> because they're part of the kernel package
[07:36] <tec> hmmm there is no menu layout in system preferences either im running 5.10 , anyway im in a menu editor now im adding opera but to which folder is the equivalent of program files where can i find its executable file
[07:36] <SilentDis> brb...
[07:36] <wastrel> there was no menu editor for gnome in 5.10 iirc
[07:36] <wastrel> was added in dapper
[07:37] <sandy16> starsky, no use still its read only filesystem
[07:37] <tec> application > system tools>then application menu editor with a big foot sign
[07:37] <griffindodd> good evening all you fine people
[07:37] <mnepton> tec: aha! you have an antique version of Ubuntu!
[07:37] <tec> really?
[07:37] <mnepton> tec: why 5.10 and not 6.06?
[07:38] <tec> i dont know really i jsut popped in a cd a friend gave me
[07:38] <mnepton> lol
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> heh
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> well, you're about a year behind I'm afraid
[07:38] <tec> how can upgrade with having the same things not erased i did a lot of tweaking already..
[07:38] <mnepton> tec: the newer version with its newer repos has a better Opera
[07:38] <tuxxee> can't you completely upgrade ubuntu without reinstalling ?
[07:38] <starsky> sandy16: I am running 2.6.15-27-386 and I can mount it with read/write ? what's your ntfs driver version ?
[07:38] <Madpilot> tec, you can upgrade 5.10 to 6.06
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> mnepton, even our repo doesn't have the latest opera though
[07:38] <mnepton> tec: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell tec about upgrade
[07:39] <mnepton> BHSPitLappy: but at least it's Opera 9, and doesn't throw a hissy fit over Motif.
[07:39] <Madpilot> mnepton, Breezy->Dapper has the graphical upgrader, remember?
[07:39] <mnepton> Madpilot: eh, i like the CLI :)
[07:39] <tec> im looking at the 5.10 to 6.06 right?
[07:39] <BHSPitLappy> yes
[07:39] <tec> is 6.06 the latest?
[07:39] <Madpilot> tec, ys
[07:40] <tec> my...the numbers itself
[07:40] <tec> lol
[07:40] <mnepton> tec: yes, it is the latest final release
[07:40] <rashi> I need kernel source for 2.6.15-27 in Dapper. When I type apt-get install kernel-source it starts downloading 2.4.something. How do I get the right source package?
[07:40] <mnepton> (6.10 is still cooking)
[07:40] <lrm> am trying to automount an nfs share. have this in my fstab: <IP_ADDRESS>:/	/media/server	nfs4	rw,hard,intr	0	0
[07:40] <crimsun> rashi: linux-source-2.6.15
[07:40] <mon^rch> 6.10 is pretty damn stable over here... everyone
[07:41] <sandy16> starsky, i got it
[07:41] <sandy16> starsky, i i have used sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda5 /media/d -o force
[07:41] <lrm> how do i do this? currently, i have to issued this command to mount the share: sudo mount -a
[07:41] <rashi> crimsun, I get error Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.6.15. Any other ideas?
[07:42] <crimsun> rashi: read carefully.
[07:42] <starsky> sandy16: ~8)
[07:42] <rashi> oops, sorry
[07:42] <tec> i go log in different account this account cant access synaptic... and do majorchanges be back
[07:42] <sandy16> starsky, but how can i add tht in /etc/fstab
[07:42] <tuxxee> tec: switch to a different console and login as - oh never mind
[07:42] <griffindodd> anyone know the trick for getting amarok to run in Gnome???
[07:43] <crimsun> griffindodd: install it and libxine-extracodecs, then run it.
[07:43] <starsky> sandy16: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:43] <lrm> anybody who could help me with my prob?
[07:43] <griffindodd> crimsun: thanks
[07:44] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me with a gpg problem?
[07:44] <sandy16> starsky, not that man, how can i implement this same functionality using fstab?
[07:44] <mon^rch> is libxine-extracodecs still missing in dapper?
[07:45] <griffindodd> weird, I have Libxine installed, when I try and run Amorak nothing happens - any ideas?
[07:45] <crimsun> mon^rch: it's not at all "missing".
[07:45] <starsky> sandy16: insert this (last line) /dev/sda1 /media/ntfs ntfs rw,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0     0
[07:45] <crimsun> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:45] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:45] <bozo_> (please forgive my newb-ness) anyone here good with ndiswrapper?
[07:45] <bozo_> I have provided lots of info: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279469
[07:46] <mon^rch> crimsun: it waaaaaaaas at one point :(
[07:47] <starsky> sandy16: all good ?
[07:47] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me with a gpg problem?  I keep getting errors complaining about unsafe ownership of the gpg.conf file.....
[07:47] <sandy16> starsky, i think i need to restart to check fstab? is n`t it?
[07:48] <starsky> sandy16: restart ubuntu ?
[07:48] <ian_> im back....pls send me the plink on how to upgrade to 6.06 thnx
[07:48] <sandy16> starsky, so catch you later , thanks alot
[07:48] <wastrel>
[07:49] <UFDF_DAVID_DONG> I have installed Ubuntu, the maximum Resolution it will give me is 800x600. I have an ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB]
[07:49] <starsky> sandy16: no probs. no need to restart ubuntu.. once /etc/fstab is written, just do mount /media/ntfs.. that's it. :) tata Sandy..
[07:49] <mon^rch> UFDF_DAVID_DONG: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:50] <sandy16> starsky, ok i will try tht
[07:51] <griffindodd> nope still can't run Amarok here in Gnome
[07:51] <sandy16> starsky, no use
[07:51] <mon^rch> I guess I shouldn't give out advice on ATI since I don't got a ATI card
[07:51] <mon^rch> :P
[07:52] <hollaback83> if i plugged a digital camcorder into my computer wut program would i use to play the the movie
[07:52] <IceCreamMatt> anyone know why my /var/backup folder is shared in samba?
[07:52] <Hit3k> hollaback83, totem?
[07:52] <sandy16> starsky, here update manager is running so may be i should restart after that
[07:52] <hollaback83> thanks
[07:52] <ian_> guys anyone who can help me uprade from 5.10 to the latest?
[07:52] <IceCreamMatt> sudo apt-get update
[07:53] <IceCreamMatt> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:53] <bimberi> !upgrade
[07:53] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:53] <Hit3k> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:53] <mon^rch> you guys are forgetting to tell to edit the sources.lst file....
[07:53] <bimberi> there are a few prerequisites before dist-upgrading, see the site above.
[07:54] <bimberi> that's one of them :)
[07:54] <mon^rch> :D
[07:54] <IceCreamMatt> anyone know why my /var/backup folder is shared in samba?
[07:54] <IceCreamMatt> i never shared it but i happend to come across it shared by accident
[07:54] <ian_> yep i read it awhile ago in a different user account i change because i cant access synaptic int hat account now i cant find the exact link
[07:55] <RagePrblm> Anyone still awake?
[07:55] <mon^rch> chan never sleeps
[07:55] <mon^rch> :P
[07:55] <RagePrblm> groovy
[07:55] <RagePrblm> Can you recommend a good newsgroup binaries downloader
[07:56] <whyso> how do i check for software updates in terminal
[07:56] <whyso> never mind
[07:57] <marcrosoft> so i updated init.d and now hal is not initializing
[07:57] <godtvisken> How can I make my own custom keyboard layout? I mean, i see the layouts in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts..
[07:57] <starsky> macrosoft: is hald running?
[07:58] <whyso> whats this mean? Reading package lists... Done
[07:58] <whyso> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[07:58] <weex> wow godtvisken how might you  be using a totally custom kb layout?
[07:58] <marcrosoft> starsky, ps -A | grep hald comes up empty
[07:58] <starsky> pe -ef  | grep 'hald' ?
[08:00] <marcrosoft> starsky, pe?
[08:00] <starsky> ps
[08:00] <starsky> *)
[08:00] <starsky> q::q
[08:00] <Geoffrey2> can anyone help me with a gpg problem?  I keep getting errors complaining about unsafe ownership of the gpg.conf file.....
[08:00] <marcrosoft> mark     11638 11410  0 00:00 pts/3    00:00:00 grep hald
[08:01] <linlin> where do i get the ubuntu with the non-graphical installer?
[08:01] <marcrosoft> linlin, from their website..
[08:01] <marcrosoft> linlin, look for server version
[08:01] <linlin> i cant find it
[08:01] <lrm> thanks guy, maybe next time
[08:01] <starsky> macrosoft: hald isn't running.
[08:01] <linlin> oh its the server version?
[08:01] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: Set it like this: -rw------- 1 tomcat tomcat   8084 2006-06-02 16:20 gpg.conf
[08:02] <mon^rch> linlin: I think the "alternate" has text install too...????
[08:02] <marcrosoft> starsky, yeah,  thats what it means when it says couldn't initialize right?
[08:02] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: Or move it away, run gpg, then edit the new file... that will fix it as well.
[08:02] <starsky> so ? start hald. :)
[08:03] <linlin> ok thanks
[08:03] <marcrosoft> /etc/init.d/hald start?
[08:03] <jrsims> I want to upgrade to edgy! What repo do I need to add?
[08:03] <starsky> if it'
[08:03] <marcrosoft> nm
[08:03] <starsky> 's there..
[08:03] <marcrosoft> just hald I take it
[08:03] <ian_> can i im getting this error W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[08:03] <starsky> otherwise use the binary somewhere in /usr/bin
[08:03] <starsky> daemonize it.
[08:04] <bimberi> jrsims: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[08:05] <marcrosoft> hal-device              hal-find-by-capability  hal-get-property
[08:05] <marcrosoft> hal-device-manager      hal-find-by-property    hal-set-property
[08:05] <marcrosoft> error: dbus_bus_get: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[08:05] <marcrosoft> when trying to run hal-device
[08:05] <Geoffrey2> Tomcat_, what's the command line to do that?
[08:05] <starsky> you don't seem to have hald intalled.. do 'find / -name hald -print0'
[08:06] <starsky> report it here.. just output..
[08:06] <mon^rch> man, this distro has such a future...
[08:06] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: From your home: "cd .gnupg", "chown <youruser>.<yourgroup> gpg.conf", "chmod 600 gpg.conf"
[08:07] <starsky> I don't understand why hald wasn't installed when you isntalled hal ?
[08:08] <marcrosoft> starsky, that didn't do anything...
[08:08] <ReinH> quick bash question: how could I remove all files ending in .swp from a directory and its subdirectories?
[08:08] <starsky> didn't find.
[08:08] <starsky> what's your hal version ?
[08:08] <marcrosoft> starsky, i never remember installing hal... does it come with the os?
[08:08] <ian_> guys is kubuntu as solid as ubuntu? well i tried kubuntu twice but it always seems to just get faulty along the way
[08:08] <Geoffrey2> Tomcat_, so I could just blow away the .conf file, and have gpg create a new one?
[08:09] <Tomcat_> Geoffrey2: Yes, that should work as well.
[08:09] <starsky> are you running edgy or dapper ? breezy ?
[08:09] <starsky> yeah it does.
[08:09] <marcrosoft> synaptic says 0.5.7-1ubuntu18
[08:09] <ian_> because i cant seem to upgrade to 6.06 and i really have little knowledge of linux so i would just have to install it over again and just add evereything again with kubuntu ill jsut download kbuuntu 6.06
[08:09] <marcrosoft> starsky, dapper
[08:10] <starsky> does 'whereis hald' report anything ?
[08:10] <marcrosoft> starsky, hald: /usr/sbin/hald /usr/share/man/man8/hald.8.gz