[09:37] <lucifiel> ant: yep, i hope so too... i just don't really like winxp 'cos it's given me plenty of trouble before.
[09:37] <ivx> hey for dual core processors would i need the smp kernel still? when i do cat /proc/cpuinfo it says dual core, but only lists one processor, do i need the smp kernel
[09:37] <Zewey> kingcobra_: yes, it should work without any additional configuration
[09:37] <rambo3> ivx yes
[09:37] <ant-> |Amon| : thats no big deal
[09:37] <bonifacy> miro12
[09:37] <rambo3> ivx no generic
[09:37] <smtlaissezfaire> Hi all.    Where would the appropriate place to put this?
[09:38] <kingcobra_> Zewey, its just the integration into the interface that will be a bit incorrect
[09:38] <ant-> |Amon| : if you delete the extended anything under it will be deleted
[09:38] <ivx> rambo3, so i can just use the kernel that it ships with and it will fully use the processor
[09:38] <xircx> ok i have hda1 mounted but theres nothing in it
[09:38] <|Amon|> can i recreate a swap partition then?
[09:38] <|Amon|> at a different mount point?
[09:38] <xircx> that should be my windows xp part.
[09:38] <smtlaissezfaire> should I put it into /etc/init.d/, and symbolically link into /etc/rc2.d/ ?
[09:38] <ivx> rambo3, i mean the kernel that ubuntu comes with
[09:38] <rambo3> ivx, just use -generic
[09:38] <|Amon|> i'd like to resize it so it's exactly 1GB anyway
[09:38] <ant-> |Amon| : why do you want to delete the extended?
[09:38] <|Amon|> or is there a way i can move it so that they're not connected?
[09:39] <|Amon|> ant-, because i don't need the extended partition wasting 1GB of space
[09:39] <rambo3> ivx, what kernel does ubuntu ship with ? 386 or generic
[09:39] <Zewey> kingcobra_: yeah, they'll look different compared to your other apps, and you'll need a separate package to configure their theme
[09:39] <lucifiel> ant: phew... well, if everything goes well, i hope to come into this channel in about 1 to 2 hrs' time. :=)
[09:39] <|Amon|> /dev/hda3 is taking 1GB that's extended and /dev/hda5 is taking 1GB for swap
[09:39] <ivx> rambo, i got the 64 bit version, i'm not sure what it came with, i just want to make sure it isn't wasting my processor
[09:40] <|Amon|> so i'd like to disconnect the partitions... if that makes sense
[09:40] <|Amon|> lol
[09:40] <|Amon|> why would they even be connected in the first place ?
[09:40] <ant-> |amon| : you should read up on partitions
[09:40] <lupusbeta> hehe
[09:40] <|Amon|> probably should
[09:40] <rambo3> ivx then you need 64 one
[09:41] <|Amon|> ant-, but my scenario isn't workable?
[09:41] <ant-> |Amon| : it says its 1GB because it adds whatever is under it, and you happen to have a 1GB swap under it.. get it?
[09:41] <ivx> rambo3, i am slightly unclear, so install the smp for full use of dual core processor
[09:41] <PresuntoRJ> smtlaissezfaire: hello
[09:41] <ant-> |Amon| : so if you had a 5GB partition under it with a 1GB swap the extended would say 6GB
[09:41] <PresuntoRJ> smtlaissezfaire: scripts go to /etc/init.d and than run $update-rc.d nome_do_script defaults
[09:42] <lupusbeta> ant-, and it says connected because it's an extended partition?
[09:42] <cables> hey, where's the site where #ubuntu gets logged?
[09:42] <|Amon|> ant-, i assumed that, but i don't like to assume to much when working with partitions so i asked
[09:42] <PresuntoRJ> smtlaissezfaire: sorry: $sudo update-rc.d nome_do_script defaults
[09:42] <|Amon|> :)
[09:42] <|Amon|> too*
[09:42] <PresuntoRJ> smtlaissezfaire: it should work
[09:42] <Jewelthief> #beryl
[09:42] <|Amon|> so is there a way i can disconnect /dev/hda5 from /dev/hda3?
[09:42] <ant-> |Amon| : thats a good rule, but read up on it a little, i didn't explain it too well
[09:43] <PresuntoRJ> smtlaissezfaire: I have a script I made compatible with init.d witch acts as a deamon controling iptables (intead of a bunch of iptables commands) reading a conf file at /etc
[09:43] <ant-> |Amon| : are you asking if you can delete your swap partition?
[09:43] <|Amon|> no, the /dev/hda3 partition
[09:43] <PresuntoRJ> smtlaissezfaire: want to try?
[09:43] <|Amon|> /dev/hda5 is swap...
[09:43] <|Amon|> but they're 'connected'
[09:43] <|Amon|> god i sound ignorant
[09:44] <|Amon|> lol
[09:44] <roshan_s> |Amon|: Your /dev/hda3 partition contains /dev/hda5
[09:44] <|Amon|> yes
[09:44] <PresuntoRJ> |Amon|: are they "mounted", i.e, visible with the Nautilus file manager
[09:44] <PresuntoRJ> ?
[09:44] <lupusbeta> |Amon|, you would kill your container for your swap partition
[09:44] <rambo3> ivx, just go with generic one
[09:44] <|Amon|> /dev/hda3 isn't in my fstab
[09:45] <|Amon|> and i haven't mounted it
[09:45] <ant-> |Amon| : thats because it isnt mounted
[09:45] <PresuntoRJ> |Amon|: /dev/hda3 is a logical partition, not phisical
[09:45] <ivx> rambo3 and this will use all the processor?
[09:45] <|Amon|> okay
[09:45] <roshan_s> |Amon|: If you want get rid of hda3, and therefore hda5, you can probably disable swap, delete the partitions, add a new one, and then enable swap on it.
[09:45] <Fujitsu> /dev/hda3 is the extended partition containing /dev/hda5, |Amon|?
[09:45] <ant-> |Amon| : dont worry, bout it
[09:45] <|Amon|> Fujitsu, yes
[09:45] <PresuntoRJ> |Amon|: it is a partition to contain partitions
[09:45] <rambo3> ivx yes
[09:45] <ivx> rambo3 sweet thanks yo
[09:46] <|Amon|> roshan_s, are there any config files i'll have to edit before doing that?
[09:46] <ant-> |Amon| : why do you want to do that?
[09:46] <roshan_s> |Amon|: No, not really. You'll have to edit /etc/fstab to change the swap partition, but you can do that after the procedure is over
[09:46] <lupusbeta> to get 1GB more space for data
[09:47] <ant-> |Amon| : the extended says 1gig becuase your swap is under it, which is 1gig
[09:47] <|Amon|> ant-, because i want /dev/hda4 which is my fat32 partition at /dev/hda3 and the swap partition at /dev/hda4
[09:47] <|Amon|> ant-, yes
[09:47] <ant-> |Amon| : nevermind i am getting dizzy
[09:47] <|Amon|> me too
[09:47] <MLimburg> Quick question .. I've shared a mounted NTFS via SMB .. so the kids can access video and music on their windows machine .. kids need a user/pass .. any pointers to give them direct (yes, read only) access?
[09:47] <|Amon|> :]
[09:48] <roshan_s> |Amon|: Is there any particular reason you want to do that? You shouldn't mess with your partition table unless absolutely necessary
[09:48] <ant-> |Amon| : i cant figure out why you want to do that
[09:48] <ant-> |Amon| : you wont free any space up
[09:48] <|Amon|> i know
[09:48] <xircx> apt-get install ntfs-config
[09:48] <xircx> is that right?
[09:48] <ant-> |Amon| : then why
[09:49] <smoke> um guys, how exactly do i need to set notls or notsc when i install ubuntu ?
[09:49] <|Amon|> i want all the physical partitions next to each other
[09:49] <|Amon|> heh
[09:49] <ant-> whatever blows your hair back man
[09:49] <lupusbeta> haha
[09:49] <roshan_s> |Amon|: Linux doesn't care if they are, and neither should you :)
[09:49] <smoke> everything stops when saying "booting the kernel"
[09:49] <|Amon|> roshan_s, i'm particular, it's why i use linux
[09:50] <roshan_s> |Amon|: There's no technical reason to want that. It's just an unnecessary risk shuffling partitions around. This sort of thing is best done in the beginning, when creating partitions
[09:51] <|Amon|> roshan_s, but i *didn't* create /dev/hda3
[09:51] <MLimburg> xircx, that allows me to configure write access to NTFS
[09:51] <ant-> |Amon| : your looking at a reinstall trying to do what you want to do
[09:51] <|Amon|> so i didn't get a chance to specify
[09:51] <|Amon|> im gonna reinstall soon anyway :)
[09:51] <|Amon|> prob just do it then
[09:51] <ant-> |Amon| : then reinstall and setup your partitions how you want them
[09:52] <roshan_s> |Amon|: Have you pasted the output of "fdisk -l /dev/hda" already? I'm new to this discussion
[09:52] <|Amon|> what can i use to completely erase my hd for nix?
[09:52] <ant-> |Amon| : just stick the install disc back in and use gparted to manually setup your partitions
[09:53] <|Amon|> i use gparted from the beginning
[09:53] <lupusbeta> |Amon|, /dev/hda3 was created to make it possible for you to create a swap partition and the possibility to create more partitions then that one
[09:53] <|Amon|> dont remember anything about /dev/hda3
[09:53] <ant-> |Amon| : it was there, you just forgot
[09:54] <jen> i want to register my nickname, do i type the /msg stuff in here or somewhere else?
[09:54] <lupusbeta> !register
[09:54] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:54] <roshan_s> |Amon|: It may not be necessary to reinstall Ubuntu
[09:54] <lupusbeta> !register > jen
[09:54] <PresuntoRJ> jenL anywhere
[09:54] <PresuntoRJ> jen: anywhere
[09:54] <|Amon|> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13057/
[09:54] <PresuntoRJ> jen: /msg NickServ HELP
[09:54] <jen> ok, thanks.  I am looking at the faq and it wasn't too clear
[09:55] <PresuntoRJ> !register > PresuntoRJ
[09:55] <lupusbeta> jen,  there you will find commands to add email and make nonregistered possible to /msg you
[09:55] <kingcobra_> is kde easier to customise than gnome
[09:55] <AtlanticBoy> Hello. Is it possible to upgrade from edgy to feisty without having to uninstall the current release ?
[09:56] <chibiace> AtlanticBoy: it updates all the software packages, replacing it
[09:56] <ant-> kingcobra_ : you are asking poeple if they like chevy or ford...
[09:56] <anhunt> Hey y'all, is this a good place to seek specifically help with PPC install?
[09:57] <lupusbeta> ant- is there something like gnome or kde with vector graphics like in flash?
[09:57] <PresuntoRJ> AtlanticBoy: nope, unless u get another partition for it
[09:57] <ant-> lupusbeta : i have no idea, i use fluxbox and stick to it
[09:57] <PresuntoRJ> AtlanticBoy: but then it will be a fresh install, and not upgrade
[09:57] <kingcobra_> ant-, you think kde and gnome are very similar?
[09:57] <roshan_s> |Amon|: hda3 is actually *after* hda4 in your drive
[09:58] <chibiace> AtlanticBoy: feisty should be safe enough by now
[09:58] <PresuntoRJ> AtlanticBoy: try /join #ubuntu+1 for more info on Feisty
[09:58] <ant-> !upgrade | AtlanticBoy
[09:58] <ubotu> AtlanticBoy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:58] <lupusbeta> anhunt isn't there a specificy linux ppc channel in here?
[09:58] <AtlanticBoy> thanks all
[09:58] <otis> Can anyone help with Persistent Mode on Feisty?
[09:58] <ant-> kingcobra_ : no they are like chevy and ford, some people like to drive chevy and hate ford and vice versa
[09:59] <|Amon|> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[09:59] <ant-> kingcobra_ : people will argue all day whether one is better than the other, although i noticed in here more poeple probably like gnome
[09:59] <lupusbeta> both ford and chevy sux :)
[09:59] <roshan_s> |Amon|: exactly. That actual disk order is exactly how you want it
[09:59] <|Amon|> no
[09:59] <ant-> lol
[10:00] <NefariousPrior> Long time debian user going to try ubuntu for the first time.   Any suggestions/tips for a ubuntu newb ??
[10:00] <JenFraggle> go for it, ubuntu rocks
[10:00] <gordonjcp> ant-: I like GNUStep and Citroen ;-)
[10:00] <anhunt> lupusbeta I don't understand your question, I didn't see a room specifically for ubuntu ppc
[10:00] <lupusbeta> coming from debian going to ubuntu? why?
[10:00] <roshan_s> |Amon|: The disk order is like this: hda1, hda2, hda4, hda5
[10:00] <silent_chaos> i have the nvidia drivers and every time i change a setting via applications-->system tools-->nvidia x server settings, it dosent save after i restart the x
[10:00] <ant-> gordonjcp : your going to complicate the situation ;X
[10:01] <gordonjcp> ant-: I always do...
[10:01] <NefariousPrior> lupusbeta: I still use debian for my servers. Wanted to try ubuntu because it's closer to bleeding edge.
[10:01] <ant-> i dunno why i'm up this late
[10:01] <chibiace> silent_chaos: awhile ago i found the same and you can run the command under gnome session thingie which reloads the config only
[10:01] <|Amon|> roshan_s, not according to qtparted
[10:01] <lupusbeta> anhunt, maybe don't restrict your search to ubuntu channels ppc
[10:02] <GolferX> is there a setting to make that will allow you to load a file from a hidden folder into gedit?
[10:02] <rambo3> !cookie
[10:02] <roshan_s> |Amon|: look at the start and end cylinder numbers in the fdisk output
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <xtheblack9x> can anyone help me with compiling a program?
[10:02] <|Amon|> roshan_s, i'm looking at it right here in qtparted
[10:02] <otis> Does Persistence now work with the Feisty live cd?
[10:02] <silent_chaos> Chibiace: would it stay there after a restart?
[10:02] <rambo3> GolferX, just change in filebrowser show hidden files
[10:02] <rambo3> in gedit
[10:03] <|Amon|> /dev/hda3 is an extended file system which contains /dev/hda5 which is swap partition
[10:03] <chibiace> silent_chaos: no it reloads it everytime you login, dont te settings come back when you start the nvidia settings manager?
[10:03] <petfrogg> hello
[10:03] <xtheblack9x> anyone know about gcc?
[10:03] <silent_chaos> chibiace: no
[10:03] <roshan_s> |Amon|: Yes, but /dev/hda3 can be ignored. It's the actual order of partitions that's important. hda3 is not a "real" partition.
[10:03] <petfrogg> is there any domU images available for ubuntu like the one you can get from jailtime.org?
[10:03] <GolferX> rambo3, there isn't one when you are using 'open file' icon in gedit
[10:04] <|Amon|> yes it's a logical partition
[10:04] <lupusbeta> NefariousPrior, bleeding edge ??? you mean new and more neat to look at?
[10:04] <roshan_s> |Amon|: No, it's an extended partition. IT /contains/ logical partitions
[10:04] <NefariousPrior> lupusbeta: yeah
[10:04] <xircx> !ntfs
[10:04] <xircx> ;\
[10:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:04] <silent_chaos> anyone else know why my xorg settings are resetting after a restart?
[10:05] <|Amon|> my brain hurts
[10:05] <rambo3> GolferX, hidden files are the ones starting with .
[10:05] <lupusbeta> GolferX, it's because you don't have the rights to open that file or configure it using editor in gui
[10:05] <NefariousPrior> if ubuntu even works with my mobo.  Last several releases wouldn't even boot the installer on my HP mobo.
[10:05] <|Amon|> i shouldn't be messing with partitions after i've been to the club anyway
[10:05] <|Amon|> lol
[10:05] <lupusbeta> petfrogg, hi
[10:05] <GolferX> lupusbeta, I'm digging a file out from my home folder
[10:05] <roshan_s> |Amon|: Executive summary. You HD can have up to 4 physical partitions. One of these can be an extended partition (hda3, in this case). This extended partition can contain 16 logical partitions (hda5 in this case)
[10:05] <petfrogg> lupusbeta! hi
[10:06] <ant-> |Amon| : i told you to just read up on partitions
[10:06] <dreadknought> does anybody know if there is a commandline installer for ubuntu?
[10:06] <Amon-san> :( everytime he says something i get highlighted
[10:06] <roshan_s> dreadknought: You need the "alternate" install CD
[10:06] <ant-> dreadknought : the alt disc contains a text based installer
[10:07] <GolferX> like I have these settings using the export button I'd like to save to say...   my beryl folder in the home directory and it's hidden
[10:07] <dreadknought> right on
[10:07] <GolferX> how could the devs forgotten that?
[10:07] <petfrogg> lupusbeta: do you know any domU ubuntu images?
[10:08] <PresuntoRJ> dreadknought: try apt-get
[10:08] <GolferX> oh, they didn't want to be like Windows or something.........  personally I think there is a standard protocol for use, it's called friendliness
[10:08] <roshan_s> Is anybody having problems accessing archive.ubuntu.com, or is it just me. The other *.ubuntu.com sites are working, albeit slowly
[10:08] <rambo3> GolferX, no
[10:08] <rambo3> http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6453/x5au6.png
[10:08] <rambo3> i have hidden files
[10:09] <|Amon|> i'm going to bed
[10:09] <|Amon|> i'll be back to bug yall in the morning
[10:09] <|Amon|> :)
[10:09] <Toma-> rambo3: go the e17 :D im using chuthulain too
[10:09] <GolferX> rambo, no duh, everyone does if its Ubuntu
[10:10] <lupusbeta> petfrogg, what is a domU image?
[10:10] <kingcobra_> can you have nome and kde installed at the same time
[10:10] <kingcobra_> gnome
[10:11] <lupusbeta> kingcobra_, i guess that could be possible
[10:13] <xtheblack9x> how do i make a .bin file executable???????
[10:13] <rambo3> Toma-, yes very good WM
[10:13] <GodTodd> xtheblack9x: chmod 700
[10:13] <xtheblack9x> thank you GodTodd :)
[10:13] <kingcobra_> lupusbeta, would you not advise it
[10:14] <GolferX> sort of a bass-ackwards way of using gedit, instead of opening gedit you go to the folder and use the 'open with...'; makes you wonder why gedit is in the taskbar menu  (we can call it taskbar, right?  or is it deskbar)
[10:14] <petfrogg> lupusbeta: it is a basic fileimage containing a complete basic configured ubuntu dist
[10:14] <lupusbeta> kingcobra_, if you have the harddisk space for it but why do you want both of them??
[10:15] <lupusbeta> petfrogg, what is the difference to a normal installation image?
[10:15] <petfrogg> it is not a install image
[10:15] <kingcobra_> lupusbeta, plenty o hd space, to try them both out
[10:15] <lupusbeta> kingcobra_, if you have the harddisk space for it but why do you want both of them??
[10:15] <petfrogg> it is a working system
[10:15] <pavlaras_14> connect global.irc.gr
[10:15] <pavlaras_14> \connect global.irc.gr
[10:16] <pavlaras_14> sry
[10:16] <lupusbeta> kingcobra_, then try it i don't see a problem in doing that
[10:16] <lupusbeta> pavlaras_14, np
[10:16] <GodTodd> kingcobra_: hybrid systems are perfectly fine...i personally run gnome and kde myself
[10:16] <kingcobra_> soon lupusbeta
[10:16] <lHck> in Xfce, when i am typing ~ and  , i need type twice, and if i type  before the s, it become like , what should I do ? but in console everything is fine.
[10:16] <kingcobra_> GodTodd, cool
[10:17] <WorldDomination> heyho
[10:17] <lHck> 789+-*/
[10:17] <lupusbeta> petfrogg, isn't there a torrent for your ubuntu image?
[10:17] <lupusbeta> !hi
[10:18] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:19] <roshan_s> Is anybody here able to access archive.ubuntu.com?
[10:19] <lupusbeta> roshan_s archive.ubuntu.com is accessable for me
[10:19] <ant-> roshan_s : i can access it just fine
[10:20] <GodTodd> i got there
[10:20] <lupusbeta> echo
[10:20] <roshan_s> lupusbeta: ant-: Thanks
[10:20] <NefariousPrior> Ok, after running the install... do I need to manually set up my repositories and if so where do I get the list of repositories to add?
[10:20] <KnowledgEngineer> someone have the webcam Hercules Dualpix HD ???
[10:20] <yell0w> hey folks, after i edit /etc/network/interfaces to set a static ip address (eth0) , how come names are not resolved anymore ?
[10:20] <lupusbeta> !universe
[10:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:21] <lupusbeta> KnowledgEngineer, is your 5Megapixel still not working?
[10:21] <lHck> in Xfce, when i am typing ~ and  , i need type twice, and if i type  before the s, it become like , what should I do ? but in console everything is fine.
[10:21] <KnowledgEngineer> 5 megapix is for photo
[10:22] <otis> yell0w: you were getting DNS config from your DHCP server
[10:22] <KnowledgEngineer> as cam have 1.3 megapixel
[10:22] <lHck> how to set xorg use the same console keyboard layout please ?
[10:22] <KnowledgEngineer> lupusbeta,
[10:22] <regress> hey, having a terribly difficult time with wireles on my laptop, broadcom chip, haven't used it for two months
[10:23] <ant-> !broadcom
[10:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:23] <lupusbeta> KnowledgEngineer, ok 1.3 megapixel
[10:23] <regress> using the command iwlist, I'm able to see that I can scan the nearby wireless networks...can I assume this means the driver/firmware is working alright?
[10:23] <yell0w> otis, yes, i was, but now i want to statsh the box in a corner and so i set it to be static
[10:23] <NefariousPrior> yell0w:  add something simmilar to this to your config -->   dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:23] <rambo3> noooooooooo
[10:23] <yell0w> NefariousPrior, /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:24] <KnowledgEngineer> becouse this device is webcam and photo...
[10:24] <NefariousPrior> yell0w: yep, just below your other options for that card.
[10:24] <ant-> regress : i've heard of people being able to see their wireless extensions but not connect with their broadcom
[10:24] <regress> yeah, pretty frustrating
[10:24] <KnowledgEngineer> lupusbeta, have you idea what can i do for my webcam ?
[10:24] <regress> the network manager doesn't recognize it anymore either
[10:24] <yell0w> NefariousPrior, ok i'll try that
[10:25] <KnowledgEngineer> lupusbeta, root@ubuntu:/home/user# lsusb
[10:25] <KnowledgEngineer> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 06f8:3003 Guillemot Corp.
[10:25] <ant-> regress : there are a lot of problems with the broadcom
[10:25] <KnowledgEngineer> Guilemot is the corporation
[10:25] <regress> yeah, that's too bad...
[10:25] <NefariousPrior> yell0w: Let me know if it doesn't work and I'll put up a link to the one I use.
[10:25] <ant-> regress : you might want to see if they fixed support for it in feisty maybe
[10:25] <lupusbeta> KnowledgEngineer, no sorry i was just remembering you from yesterday evening
[10:25] <KnowledgEngineer> cam name is: Hercules Dualpix HD
[10:25] <regress> hmm, actually, I have a linksys usb wireless one
[10:26] <regress> any idea if those are supported any nicer?
[10:26] <ant-> :X
[10:26] <ant-> regress : probly better than the broadcom
[10:26] <GolferX> one other thing, every time when you go to save a file, the window has to be resized.  nothing ever gets set
[10:27] <ant-> regress : did you see that link for wifidocs, i think it has a list of supported cards and such with support for each one
[10:27] <lupusbeta> KnowledgEngineer, did you search google and ubuntu support forums for your hardware?
[10:27] <ant-> !hardware
[10:27] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:28] <ant-> @chuck
[10:28] <regress> great, I'll read through this
[10:29] <z0rz> Anyone know of a program like voodoopad for windows/linux/mac instead of just mac?
[10:29] <drcode> hi all
[10:29] <drcode> how I can update my clock
[10:29] <lupusbeta> GolferX, remember windows there you had panels that you couldn't even resize sometimes ...
[10:29] <drcode> I am from israel
[10:29] <ant-> regress : feisty does have added support for some wireless cards though
[10:30] <regress> ant-: I don't have enough free space to upgrade :/
[10:30] <KnowledgEngineer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCameras
[10:30] <nessmuk> xubuntu uses an earlier version of xfce than the latest/best installer bundled as xfce 4-4.4RC2. Can one install the latest into Dapper 6.10....or xubuntu itself?
[10:30] <ant-> regress : i feel your pain
[10:30] <regress> I'll try soon though
[10:30] <KnowledgEngineer> there is not Hercules webcam
[10:31] <ant-> edgy is 6.10
[10:32] <nessmuk> erhm....I guess that's what I meant. So can you install it in edgy.....or xubuntu?
[10:33] <GolferX> lupusbeta, yes, I remember,  me being a newb tried to use gxset so my dpms would work, and finally got the script to save. to make a long story short;  so little did I know that I'd be reading a list of commands everytime I ran that script.
[10:33] <ant-> nessmuk : i would assume you can manually upgrade it if you want
[10:33] <ant-> sorry thats not a yes or no
[10:33] <NefariousPrior> xubuntu ??
[10:33] <NefariousPrior> what is that?
[10:33] <ant-> ubuntu with the xfce wm
[10:33] <ant-> !xubuntu
[10:33] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[10:33] <lupusbeta> GolferX, :)
[10:34] <regress> nnniiiiccceee
[10:34] <NefariousPrior> odd
[10:34] <regress> it seems the linksys usb wifi ALSO is not supported
[10:34] <ant-> regress : you got it going?
[10:34] <regress> "None work. AVOID THIS DEVICE LIKE THE PLAGUE."
  I got a highlight on the ops call, I saw that
[10:39] <marcin> to get a dhcp address, you can run dhclient <interface> from the terminal
[10:39] <regress> any link that you followed to get it working?
[10:39] <Mez> I now am off to bed
[10:39] <ant-> nite
[10:39] <Mez> Veni, Vidi, Vici, as they say
[10:39] <GodTodd> works here at home and when i go to my inlaws, i just switch to that location and i'm on in seconds
[10:39] <bigbang> is there a way of making ubuntu perform like a mac for multiple image hadling? is it to do with the graphics card you have?
[10:39] <GodTodd> lemme check if i have it
[10:39] <lupusbeta> how come the network setup and using a profile for your wifi site is not saved so you have to type it in anytime you reboot?
[10:39] <EddyDean> Is it possible to mount a samba share at /home/<username>/?
[10:40] <EddyDean> I usually log in with eddydean, and I want /home/eddydean to be a samba share.
[10:40] <ridhwani> join #ubuntu-de
[10:40] <regress> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy#head-6c8aaf2f6f44f15b670dfe521d12b4164e48fd13
[10:40] <regress> nice
[10:41] <regress> not quite as helpful for the ndiswrapper section as I might have hoped...
[10:41] <immolo> heya, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu to a pc so I was wondering if I installed it in a vmware then dd it across would I need to make the virtual hd the same size as the target?
[10:42] <KnowledgEngineer> a yess
[10:42] <KnowledgEngineer> lupusbeta, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:42] <KnowledgEngineer> there is Hercules
[10:42] <kingcobra> ardchoille, what happens when you try to run a gtk or qt app in fluxbox without gnome or kde running
[10:43] <eyalw> hi, i'm having troubles connecting to my 2wire router with my laptop wireless. it prompts me for a key which i supply and it fails to connect. BUT when i drop the encryption on the router side, i connect successfuly. i saw someone on the forums suggest wpasupplicant, u think?
[10:43] <bigbang> is there a way of making ubuntu perform like a mac for multiple image hadling? is it to do with the graphics card you have?
[10:43] <Ind[y] > Is there any possibility that ubuntu-desktop-i386.iso has problems booting?
[10:43] <Ind[y] > (the current release, 6.10)
[10:44] <lupusbeta> bigbang reformulate you question i don't get it :)
[10:44] <GolferX> psst, I lernt me a thing or tu in 'nudder chnnle.......... I can right click in the save as window ...  major w00t
[10:45] <bigbang> macs perform very well when handeling many images. is it possible to get the same performance in ubuntu? do video cards have some say in how well your system hangles images?
[10:46] <ivx> did anyone get a broadcom 4318 working without ndis
[10:47] <yellow> ivx, i did, for 2 days
[10:47] <ivx> yellow then what
[10:47] <yellow> ivx, and then resuming it from sleep and roam from one network to another kill it
[10:47] <ivx> yellow, what did you do to get it working, install the firmware
[10:48] <lupusbeta> KnowledgEngineer, you have version 7.04 alpha ??
[10:48] <yellow> ivx, yes, there's a guide on the forum
[10:48] <Lucifiel> oh hey cheyenne nice to see you again. =)
[10:49] <ivx> yellow, i got it working with ndis, but the range is bad, i am hoping it will be better with the firmware
[10:49] <Lucifiel> oh man, reinstalled ubuntu again and now it finally seems to be working right. :)
[10:50] <yellow> ivx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[10:50] <ivx> yellow do you think the range will be better than if it was installed with ndis wrapper
[10:50] <eyalw> hi, i'm having troubles connecting to my 2wire router with my laptop wireless. it prompts me for a key which i supply and it fails to connect. BUT when i drop the encryption on the router side, i connect successfuly. i saw someone on the forums suggest wpasupplicant, u think?
[10:51] <yellow> ivx, it works better for me with ndiswrapper (stable, everytime)
[10:51] <ivx> yellow, what about range? any difference
[10:51] <bigbang> macs perform very well when handeling many images. is it possible to get the same performance in ubuntu? do video cards have some say in how well your system hangles images?
[10:51] <kingcobra> does anybody know what happens when you try to run a gtk or qt app in fluxbox without gnome or kde running
[10:51] <Talaman> hey kingcobra what up with that?
[10:51] <yellow> ivx, about range, i'm enjoying 5 bars over 2 bathroom walls ;)
[10:51] <Talaman> hey yellow what up with that?
[10:52] <yellow> Talaman, bcm4318 wifi
[10:52] <lupusbeta> bigbang, maybe check a linux mac specific channel for that kind of question?
[10:52] <Talaman> hey lupusbeta what up with that?
[10:52] <ivx> yellow with ndis? i can't even go to my living room
[10:52] <Talaman> hey ivx what up with that?
[10:52] <Xteven> hi, does ubuntu have a favorite application to send/receive sms-messages using a GSM through bluetooth ?
[10:52] <Talaman> hey Xteven what up with that?
[10:52] <ivx> talaman what up with what
[10:52] <Talaman> eee gads
[10:52] <lupusbeta> Talaman, what's up?
[10:52] <yellow> ivx, yes, the router's in living room, i'm in the bedroom right now
[10:52] <kingcobra> u from tallaght
[10:53] <Talaman> hey fuzzy_logic what up with that?
[10:53] <fuzzy_logic> hi Talaman
[10:53] <Talaman> hmm, seems to be blocking your taliban or talaban comments
[10:53] <fuzzy_logic> nothin special.. u?
[10:53] <ivx> yellow i guess i need bigger antennas, :)
[10:54] <lupusbeta> Talaman, what is your problem?
[10:54] <kingcobra> does anybody know what happens when you try to run a gtk or qt app in fluxbox without gnome or kde running
[10:54] <yellow> ivx, not really, it's the same card 4318, and the router's a crappy bottom-of-the-line dlink
[10:54] <KnowledgEngineer> i do not know lupusbeta
[10:54] <Talaman> hey KnowledgEngineer what up with that?
[10:54] <Talaman> no problem
[10:54] <KnowledgEngineer> i have: Hercules dualpix HD
[10:54] <yellow> ivx, just check back the router and ndiswrapper
[10:54] <Talaman> yellow Now you're just being annoying.
[10:54] <NefariousPrior> Just did a fresh install of ubuntu. Totaly new to it. I edited my /etc/network/interfaces apropriately, but I can't resolve hostnames.  Any ideas?
[10:54] <ivx> yellow, i got a linksys 54g w/ 7db antennas
[10:54] <Talaman> hey NefariousPrior what up with that?
[10:54] <Talaman> just have an auto responder to talaban and taliban
[10:55] <Kassah> kassah@izaban:/$ sudo vi /etc/fstab -> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 31 02:50:59 2007
[10:55] <Talaman> hey Kassah what up with that?
[10:55] <fuzzy_logic> NefariousPrior: what do you want to do?
[10:55] <fuzzy_logic> Talaman plz stop ok?
[10:55] <Talaman> fuzzy_logic Now you're just being annoying.
[10:55] <Kassah> that's the question of the day
[10:55] <lupusbeta> Talaman, SPAM?
[10:55] <Kassah> I can't sudo anything at the moment
[10:55] <NefariousPrior> fuzzy_logic: I want to be able to go to google.com without having to type in it's IP address.
[10:56] <Talaman> not from me
[10:56] <KnowledgEngineer> Talaman, can you help me
[10:56] <Kassah> any idea what's up with sudo?
[10:56] <Talaman> one sec
[10:56] <sec_> cya
[10:56] <Talaman> hey sec_ what up with that?
[10:56] <xircx> what is the swap partition for?
[10:56] <Talaman> hey xircx what up with that?
[10:56] <sec_> Talaman: ?
[10:56] <kingcobra> !ops
[10:56] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[10:57] <Kassah> bot...
[10:57] <sec_> oh
[10:57] <KnowledgEngineer> Talaman, corporation: Guillemot   /   webcam: HERCULES Dualpix HD
[10:57] <KnowledgEngineer> lsusb: Bus 004 Device 003: ID 06f8:3003 Guillemot Corp.
[10:57] <Talaman> KnowledgEngineer>: what wrong?
[10:57] <NefariousPrior> c'mon people. I thought this would be an easy one.   ;-)
[10:57] <Kassah> test
[10:58] <KnowledgEngineer> the cam do not work
[10:58] <ivx> nefariousprior, what was the question, i missed it
[10:58] <Kassah> NefariousPrior: do you have your DNS servers set?
[10:58] <KnowledgEngineer> Talaman, The webcam do not work
[10:58] <NefariousPrior> Just did a fresh install of ubuntu. Totaly new to it. I edited my /etc/network/interfaces apropriately, but I can't resolve hostnames.  Any ideas?
[10:59] <NefariousPrior> Kassah: set how?
[10:59] <Talaman> i see
[10:59] <NefariousPrior> My config resembles this -->  http://clay.servebeer.com/logs/interfaces
[10:59] <lupusbeta> NefariousPrior /etc/hosts
[10:59] <Kassah> NefariousPrior: DHCP should set it in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:59] <ivx> NefariousPrior, why did you do that, are you trying to get a static ip?
[10:59] <NefariousPrior> not useing DHCP
[10:59] <Talaman> mine worked as long as i turned it upside down
[10:59] <Talaman> lol
[10:59] <Wespe> hi, since i am using Ubuntu Feisty my KDE-Shutdown-Button (and all others, except Log out) in the Logout-Screen has gone (http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9835/kdecs8.png). What can I do to get that button back? It's really annoying me
[11:00] <NJigelli> why wont ubuntu run on my pc?
[11:00] <Kassah> NefariousPrior: did you change /etc/network/interfaces to make it into a static IP vs. DHCP
[11:00] <NJigelli> it just stops at a screen with _ on it
[11:00] <NefariousPrior> Kassah: security reasons.  DHCP is disabled on my network and attempts are logged and MACs auto-banned,
[11:01] <Kassah> neat
[11:01] <rambo3> scyco
[11:01] <Kassah> NefariousPrior: so what you need to do is find out what your DNS resolver on the network is... and put that in your /etc/resolve.conf...
[11:01] <ivx> nefariousPrior, you could have configured yout static with a gui if you have to
[11:02] <NefariousPrior> kassah: So  echo "<IP_ADDRESS>" > /etc/resolve.conf     ??
[11:02] <Kassah> note quite
[11:02] <epennings> NefariousPrior: have you tried adding dns-servers in /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:02] <NefariousPrior> epennings: About to, but not sure on syntax/format
[11:03] <Kassah> NefariousPrior: echo "nameserver 10.x.x.x" >> /etc/resolv.conf
[11:03] <stdin> NefariousPrior: use tee, not >>
[11:03] <NefariousPrior> Kassah: thanks. That's what I needed to know. 8)
[11:03] <Kassah> most places provide you with two nameservers
[11:03] <Kassah> you want both
[11:03] <ivx> nefariousprior, if you are new why not start easy
[11:03] <Kassah> it's not uncommon for one to go down for maintaince =)
[11:03] <raul_> buenos dias
[11:03] <raul_> alguien sabe como puedo instalar quake??
[11:04] <NefariousPrior> ivx: I'm only new to ubuntu, been using debian forever.
[11:04] <Kassah> ivx, it doesn't sound like he's new.....
[11:04] <ivx> kassah, he said he was "new", but didn't say just to ubuntu,
[11:05] <rambo3> well back in the days:  man host , would be enough of an answer
[11:05] <rambo3> hoste
[11:05] <Kassah> I remember those....
[11:05] <Kassah> or RTFM... if you're feeling unhappy?
[11:06] <Kassah> kinda kills the nice feeling of community in here...
[11:06] <KnowledgEngineer> i need a list of webcam the linux support
[11:06] <rambo3>  all right :
[11:06] <KnowledgEngineer> and go to shop whit this list
[11:06] <arkaitz> Hey
[11:07] <Kassah> http://www.google.com/linux search: supported wecams
[11:07] <Kassah> err
[11:07] <Kassah> supported webcams
[11:07] <arkaitz> anyone could tell me about a good audio player? such as iTunes for Linux?
[11:07] <Kassah> arkaitz: RythemBox is the closest I've found
[11:07] <arkaitz> Thanks
[11:07] <linuxnooblah> Anyone know why vlc or any media player wont play my audio streams
[11:08] <Kassah> linuxnooblah: does your computer play any sounds yet?
[11:08] <rambo3> linuxnooblah, xmms will
[11:08] <epennings> KnowledgEngineer: try this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:08] <linuxnooblah> yeh i have sound
[11:09] <linuxnooblah> the other problem im having is assigning in firefox which program to use for certain streams
[11:09] <NefariousPrior> Kassah: Well, I have the nameserver in interfaces and resolv.conf, but still a no go with name resolution. Any other ideas?  8)
[11:09] <Kassah> hrrm
[11:09] <hajiko> I have a minor issue, after upgrading from Hoary to Breezy. My firefox isn't displaying anything right. I think it's just the text, becuase most of the images show.
[11:09] <diminthedam> 3ddesktop is only showing one of my desktop screens. how do i get it to see all 3 of them?
[11:09] <linuxnooblah> i want to select vlc for all but what file do i browse for to select as the player
[11:10] <Kassah> NefariousPrior: have you completely restarted firefox or whatever browser you use?
[11:10] <NefariousPrior> Kassah: I'm pinging random host names.
[11:10] <KnowledgEngineer> yes epennings but every Make have different models
[11:10] <Kassah> ahh
[11:10] <Kassah> hmm
[11:10] <KnowledgEngineer> example i have an Hercules
[11:10] <linuxnooblah> anyone know how to associate the stream with a program
[11:10] <KnowledgEngineer> but my model is not supported
[11:10] <rambo3> Kassah is it ipv6 he is talking about ?
[11:11] <NefariousPrior> 4
[11:11] <Kassah> rambo3: could be... my knowledge of how the system works is very very little
[11:11] <rambo3> !ipv6
[11:11] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:12] <epennings> NefariousPrior: did you do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart after you added those dns-servers to /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:12] <linuxnooblah> rambo3: xmms doesnt play the stream either
[11:12] <pdedecker> How can I prevent Rhythmbox from starting when I plug in my iPod?
[11:12] <hajiko> My pango is apparently missing certain fonts? Which ones should I install to resolve this?
[11:13] <lorsche> how is the Places>Bookmarks icon changed?
[11:13] <NefariousPrior> epennings, I just did ifup ifdown. let me try that. lol
[11:13] <rambo3> linuxnooblah, go to shoutcast and download one playlist to desktop . then open it with xmms like in winamp
[11:13] <Kassah> whoa... fstab is neat
[11:14] <Kassah> wonder what these UUID things do
[11:14] <NefariousPrior> epennings: no luck
[11:14] <[WaZ] > !fonts
[11:14] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:14] <KnowledgEngineer> user@ubuntu:~$ modprobe ov511
[11:14] <KnowledgEngineer> user@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep Camera
[11:14] <KnowledgEngineer> [17185715.848000]  drivers/media/video/ov511/ov511.c: v1.64 for Linux 2.5 : ov511 USB Camera Driver
[11:14] <hajiko> Thank you [WaZ]
[11:15] <hajiko>  Wait [WaZ]  firefox doesn't display any text
[11:15] <[WaZ] > ? that was for me :D
[11:15] <v_> hi. trying to boot off 7.04 cd. getting the error "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off." any suggestions?
[11:15] <kingcobra> does anybody know what happens when you try to run a gtk or qt app in fluxbox without gnome or kde running
[11:15] <KnowledgEngineer> rmmod ov511
[11:15] <hajiko> pffft.
[11:15] <hajiko> sry [WaZ]
[11:15] <rambo3> kingcobra, unless its nautilus it will work
[11:15] <v_> kingcobra: should run fine
[11:15] <[WaZ] > hajiko: np
[11:16] <v_> kingcobra: even nautilus --no-desktop works
[11:16] <rambo3> kingcobra, nautilus --no-desktop . in case you want filebrowser
[11:16] <isaks> Has anyone had issues with todays update of firefox (ubuntu edgy)?
[11:17] <NefariousPrior> This is nuts. I'm not gonna enable dhcp just to use ubuntu. lol
[11:17] <lorsche> how is the Places>Bookmarks icon changed?
[11:17] <isaks> Today's set of security updates broke my web browser..
[11:18] <kingcobra> rambo3, does fluxbox have file browser of its own or why will nautilus not work easily
[11:18] <hajiko> Which packages include the following fonts? "Core X windowing system fonts" , "Client-side fonts on X using the Xft library" , "FreeType library" or What should I do to repair my Pango's error pango_cairo_show_glyph_string
[11:18] <v_> i know the cd is good b/c i used it to install on another machine
[11:18] <rambo3> kingcobra, it has no filebrpser by default
[11:18] <rambo3> as far as i know
[11:18] <rambo3> !rox
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <v_> kingcobra: no, and nautilus --no-desktop works fine
[11:19] <kingcobra> rambo3, v_ what is that parameter about
[11:19] <epennings> NefariousPrior: did you add the dns-servers your ISP gave you to /etc/resolv.conf? or just <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:20] <rambo3> kingcobra, its self explaning
[11:20] <piper69> hello everyone
[11:20] <v_> kingcobra: if you don't specify it, nautilus will takeover the desktop basically
[11:20] <kingcobra> rambo3, i suppose
[11:20] <rambo3> kingcobra, it will start gnome like desktop
[11:20] <piper69> i am a debian user and my friend talked me into ubuntu and i would like to check it out
[11:20] <NefariousPrior> epennings, <IP_ADDRESS> .... like I do EVERY time I need a DNS server.
[11:20] <v_> kingcobra: you'll have gnome-panel etc
[11:21] <hajiko> If I mark firefox for complete removal, will it delete my bookmarks?
[11:21] <kingcobra> v_ ok thanx
[11:21] <michup> hi, could you help me install my BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller?
[11:22] <michup>  i'm using ubuntu edgy
[11:22] <yellow_chicken> hajiko: don't know, but just export it and then removal completely and see what was done
[11:22] <kingcobra> michup certainly
[11:22] <anan> hi everyone, 1/10 of my LCD screen is dead (vertically), is there a way to define it in the Xorg ?so it can display only in the right working area ? Plz help
[11:23] <linuxnooblah> !mouse
[11:23] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:23] <yellow_chicken> anan: haha.... that will be cool if it can be done =)
[11:23] <linuxnooblah> anyone know of any ms drivers for an ms intellimouse explorer 4 mouse
[11:23] <michup> kingcobra: i've install ndiswrapper, and download bcm42xx driver
[11:24] <michup> kingcobra:
[11:24] <michup> kingcobra: what should i do next?
[11:24] <michup> kingcobra:
[11:24] <anan> there is no way at all ? sniff sniff :(
[11:24] <rambo3> NefariousPrior, what is the problem
[11:24] <v_> no one ever answers *my* questions s-8
[11:24] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: Can you ping your DNS servers? Try "dig @<dnsserver> www.google.com" to see if the resolvers work
[11:24] <kingcobra> michup, hav a look at this page
[11:24] <kingcobra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[11:25] <michup> kingcobra:ty
[11:25] <NefariousPrior> roshan_s: I can ping the dns servers just fine.  Not sure what you mean by 'dig' though.
[11:26] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: dig is the command you can use to make DNS queries on the shell.
[11:26] <yellow_chicken> anan: i think it's just funny how your screen only die 1/10.  you might be able to find a way for xorg.
[11:26] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: "dig @<IP_ADDRESS> www.google.com" will use <IP_ADDRESS> to look up www.google.com
[11:26] <anan> thank u yellow chicken... will try to find it out ^ ^
[11:27] <me-> hi could anyone say me the grub console command to see my partitions
[11:27] <NefariousPrior> roshan_s: That worked perfectly. I just need that to happen with ALL requests.
[11:28] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: Try just "dig www.google.com" and see what error it gives
[11:28] <NefariousPrior> roshan_s: It  times out.
[11:29] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: Could you paste your /etc/resolv.conf? Note the absence of an 'e'
[11:29] <winxp-ubun> hi i installed windowsxp, i forgot to make partions, now i am wondering if i can install ubuntu and make partiones with out deletin windows
[11:30] <NefariousPrior> roshan_s: Wow, that lack of an 'e' might be my problem. let me fix that.
[11:30] <_muelli_> winxp-ubun: you can shrink windows partitions... but why don't you delete it anyway? ;-)
[11:30] <linuxnooblah> winxp-ubun: u can indeed
[11:30] <winxp-ubun> ok i will give it a try
[11:31] <yellow_chicken> winxp-ubun: use gpartition, it's in ubuntu's installer
[11:31] <arkaitz> One question
[11:31] <NefariousPrior> roshan_s: The issue was that damned "e".  thanks a lot.  lmmfao
[11:31] <arkaitz> can I play .wma files on linux?
[11:31] <winxp-ubun> will it delete windows
[11:31] <linuxnooblah> winxp-ubun: do a quikc google search for dual booting etc and will give u a heads up
[11:31] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: Heh, UNIX tradition and all that...
[11:31] <linuxnooblah> !dual boot
[11:31] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:31] <yellow> NefariousPrior, dweebs ;)
[11:31] <yellow_chicken> winxp-ubun: gparted
[11:32] <NefariousPrior> hehehe
[11:32] <NefariousPrior> It's always something as simple as a semicolon that brings everything.
[11:32] <yellow> NefariousPrior, and i even gave you the right name ;)
[11:32] <NefariousPrior> yell0w: It IS a friday night.... and I'm just not right. heh
[11:32] <epennings> NefarioriousPrior: glad it works now :P
[11:33] <yellow> NefariousPrior, :P
[11:33] <NefariousPrior> aye
[11:33] <yellow> NefariousPrior, hey, i couldn't have down w'o you
[11:33] <yellow> been done*
[11:33] <NefariousPrior> Now to figure out how ubuntu does it's repositories.  It seems odd.
[11:34] <bdunn> Can anyone tell me how I can partition a 3.5 TB drive and format it?  I would prefer to have a huge 3.5 TB formatted volume if possible.
[11:34] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: Ubuntu repos are exactly like Debian, except the release names are things like feisty, feisty-security, etc. instead of unstable, testing, sarge, etc. And the section names are main, restricted, universe, multiverse.
[11:35] <arkaitz> can I play .wma files on linux?
[11:35] <linuxnooblah> 3.5tb wtf
[11:35] <|muelli|> roshan_s: just go ahead... do it...
[11:35] <epennings> NefariousPrior: you can find a list of repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <|muelli|> arkaitz: depends on the codec.. you probably cant out of the box, since its a non-free codec.. but there are some illegal codecs to download
[11:36] <Dell-Net> arkaitz: try vlc player or mplayer
[11:36] <mattik> how do I get scandinaviab characters running in terminal and how can I install finnish language support?  It don't run by synaptic. something broken in sources?
[11:36] <roshan_s> |muelli|: Do what?
[11:36] <yellow> NefariousPrior, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories, consise summary of them
[11:36] <|muelli|> roshan_s: use gparted it's an allinone tool
[11:37] <NefariousPrior> roshan_s: I have only to choose a mirror and specify section/release names?
[11:37] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: Yes
[11:37] <roshan_s> |muelli|: That's bdunn who's asking about that :)
[11:37] <arkaitz> can I play .wma files on linux?
[11:37] <NefariousPrior> roshan_s:   Easy peasy.  Do we have a serverlist?
[11:37] <Dell-Net> mattik: terminal menu > terminal >
[11:37] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: Take a look at the standard sources.list for inspiration
[11:37] <|muelli|> arkaitz: depends on the codec.. you probably cant out of the box, since its a non-free codec.. but there are some illegal codecs to download
[11:38] <bdunn> I am trying to work out how to create a 3.5TB single volume to mount.  I have 3.5 on a large hardware RAID that I really need to treat as one volume if possible.
[11:38] <NefariousPrior> roshan_s: Thanks for everything. You've been a HUGE help.
[11:38] <Dell-Net> arkaitz: install automatix
[11:38] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: You should be able to use <countrycode>.archive.ubuntu.com for the main repos. However, there aren't any mirrors of security.ubuntu.com
[11:38] <vlt|l> Hello. I compiled hplip 1.7.3 in /opt/ltsp/i386 to support my HPLaserjet printer/scanner on Ubuntu Dapper 6.06. When I run `/etc/init.d/hplip start` I get "[OK] " but syslog says "hpiod: unable to bind socket 2208: Cannot assign requested address". I tried to use this port 2208 manually with `netcat` and suceeded. What could be hplip's problem here?
[11:39] <arkaitz> one more question. How do I make Ubuntu load an application at startup
[11:39] <[WaZ] > arkaitz: System>Preferences>Sessions
[11:39] <mattik> Dell-Net: It don't run konsole and gnome-terminal
[11:39] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[11:39] <[WaZ] > then Startup program
[11:39] <vlt|l> arkaitz: or look in /etc/rc.local or similar
[11:39] <roshan_s> NefariousPrior: You're welcome
[11:39] <|muelli|> vlt|l: maybe it wants to bind to another interface, say lo, while netcat listens on all (?) devices... ? (just a guess)
[11:39] <arkaitz> ok
[11:39] <Dell-Net> mattik: what do u run then ?
[11:39] <mattik> feisty
[11:40] <Dell-Net> hmm
[11:40] <mattik> I see scandinavian characters as ?
[11:40] <mattik> And I cannot write it anything
[11:40] <Dell-Net> which program ?
[11:40] <mattik> irssi
[11:41] <Dell-Net> u run irssi in terminal right ?
[11:41] <mattik> yes
[11:41] <vlt|l> |muelli|: Yes, maybe. How can I make it work? What files or directories does hplip (hpiod and hpssd) need write access to?
[11:41] <Dell-Net> klick on terminal
[11:41] <Dell-Net> and the on code something
[11:42] <Dell-Net> add and remove
[11:42] <|muelli|> vlt|l: I'm sorry. I have absolutely no clue, since I dunno hp-foo at all. But you might want to try some general debuggin. Try strace, lsof, gdb and those nifty linux tools :)
[11:42] <Dell-Net> add iso-8859-15 as ex
[11:43] <vlt|l> |muelli|: I tried strace before but can't find any occurence of "2208" which is the port it wants to bind to ... hmmmm ...
[11:43] <mattik> Dell-Net: Thank you :)
[11:43] <Dell-Net> :) np
[11:43] <ulisse> yo tribe!
[11:43] <mattik> Dell-Net How about finnish language support
[11:44] <isaks> Has anyone successfully installed firefox<IP_ADDRESS>+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 and have it work afterwards?
[11:44] <ulisse> what can I check to see why I can't access to cups on licalhost:631 ?
[11:44] <|muelli|> yeah vlt|l. Sockets are rather ugly in linux ;-) You might want to produce an output file and analyze later on. Have you tried rebooting? ;-0
[11:44] <mattik> I cannot install language support
[11:44] <eleftherios> is there a 64bit port that will run on an Intel Q963 chipset with core duo 2?
[11:44] <Shamrock_hh> what determines what is mounted outside of fstab? "mount" is showing one of my usb externals as /dev/mapper/sde1-3, gparted also shows this but my fstab has no sde partitions device mounted.
[11:44] <|muelli|> ulisse: is cupsd running? "pgrep cups"
[11:44] <Dell-Net> mattik: what do u mean ?
[11:44] <|muelli|> Shamrock_hh: the command "mount"
[11:45] <Schalken> eleftherios: the 64bit ubuntu will work on all intel/athlon-based 64bit cpu.
[11:45] <mattik> Dell-Net: It said about dependencies
[11:45] <Shamrock_hh> yes. of course. but I am not calling mount to mount it - only to display what is mounted.
[11:45] <ulisse> |muelli|: with that command I get two numbers, does that means that it is running?
[11:45] <NefariousPrior> What windowmanager does gnome use by default on edgy?
[11:45] <Schalken> eleftherios: if thats what you were asking ;)
[11:45] <vlt|l> |muelli|: rebooting? seriously? on a linux box?
[11:45] <Schalken> NefariousPrior: Metacity
[11:45] <eleftherios> Schalken, thank you
[11:45] <|muelli|> ulisse: yeah. looks good. have you ever telnetted to localhost 631 to see, wether this port is open?
[11:46] <NefariousPrior> thanks
[11:46] <NefariousPrior> brb in ubuntu
[11:46] <Dell-Net> mattik: dependencies
[11:46] <Dell-Net> ?
[11:46] <epennings> isaks: I have it installed and running. Did you do an upgrade or a clean install?
[11:46] <mattik> I can show
[11:46] <Shamrock_hh> this whole uuid thing is a bloody mess.
[11:46] <Schalken> does anyone know of a Gtk/Gnome music player that has crossfading?
[11:46] <|muelli|> vlt|l: well. It's an ubuntu, right? ;-) It might work though... I mean, if a program keeps the port open or the kernel hasn't freed the port yet, then rebooting can be a solution :>
[11:46] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: USB devices are mounted to /media/... when you insert them
[11:47] <Shamrock_hh> these are permanently connected and specificall mounted.
[11:47] <isaks> epennings: I just installed the security updates because the notification bubble told me so
[11:47] <|muelli|> Shamrock_hh actually means, that your'e from hamburg, aight? ^^;
[11:47] <vlt|l> |muelli|: Ok, I'll try ... (Yes, Ubuntu Dapper 6.06)
[11:47] <ulisse> |muelli|: with "telnet localhost 631" I get "trying <IP_ADDRESS>..." and it hangs there.
[11:47] <Shamrock_hh> correct.
[11:47] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: On which path are they mounted?
[11:47] <isaks> epennings: "dpkg --listfiles firefox | grep bin/" indicates that the binary is missing from the package
[11:48] <mattik> Dell-Net: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13065/
[11:48] <|muelli|> ulisse: and specifically what is the problem?
[11:48] <Shamrock_hh> roshan_s: example : /dev/mapper/sde3 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[11:48] <Shamrock_hh>
[11:49] <Shamrock_hh> I dont know how this is so. It should be sdb3.
[11:49] <ulisse> |muelli|: with gnome-cups-add it takes ages to get the printer adding dialog, and after I managed to create a new printer, it doesn't print anything
[11:49] <ulisse> |muelli|: if I go to the printer properties, it takes ages too and the "driver" tab is missing
[11:49] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: But if your /home is fine, that means it's actually sde3
[11:50] <eleftherios> Schalken, at the download page there is a choice for 6.06 LTS and 6.10. Why will the 6.06 will be supported for a year longer?
[11:50] <ulisse> |muelli|: all this in a fresh install of feisty beta
[11:50] <xircx> !ntfs
[11:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:50] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: What's the output of "grep /home /etc/fstab"
[11:50] <Schalken> eleftherios: it has Long Term Support.
[11:50] <eleftherios> I see
[11:50] <Shamrock_hh> no. the fstab line is:
[11:50] <eleftherios> also, is there a netinst for ubuntu?
[11:50] <Shamrock_hh> # /dev/sda3 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[11:50] <Shamrock_hh> UUID=7dbc023b-6777-4dc5-8bac-23c3908d00ca  /home                    ext3         defaults                            0  2
[11:51] <Shamrock_hh> should be sda3
[11:51] <Schalken> eleftherios: not that i know of
[11:51] <Shamrock_hh> and it is too! sde3 is a shadow if you will. I dont know where it is coming from.
[11:51] <eleftherios> I see
[11:51] <|muelli|> well ulisse. I'm not into cups, but I have simililar problems, if I put non existent ServerAdresses or PollAdresses in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf but I assume, yours is perfect.. :-| Have you tried restarting cupsd?
[11:51] <Dell-Net> mattik: private chat
[11:51] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: And what's the output of "readlink -f /dev/disk/by-uuid/7dbc023b-6777-4dc5-8bac-23c3908d00ca"
[11:51] <ulisse> |muelli|: I tried to restart several times, no luck...
[11:52] <eleftherios> Schalken, I see. What version of X is 6.10 on? 7.2?
[11:52] <Shamrock_hh> roshan_s: 08d00ca /dev/mapper/sde3
[11:52] <Shamrock_hh>
[11:52] <Schalken> eleftherios: 7.1
[11:52] <Dell-Net> mattik: try to install it with synaptic
[11:52] <roshan_s> So that means your home directory is actually on sde3, not sdb3
[11:53] <|muelli|> ulisse: maybe you can configure cups to produce a debugging outping and analyze that :-|
[11:53] <epennings> isaks: have you tried reinstalling the firefox package (with Synaptic or "sudo aptitude reinstall firefox"
[11:53] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: Is there any reason you think the home dir is on sdb3, not sde3
[11:53] <Shamrock_hh> yes, I know this. But why?
[11:53] <Dell-Net> mattik: system>admin>synaptic
[11:53] <ulisse> |muelli|: I would, but I dunno how... :P
[11:53] <isaks> No, I will try that. I just wanted to see if it's a local issue or if this affects more people (in which case a warning should be posted somewhere official)
[11:53] <eleftherios> I see
[11:54] <Shamrock_hh> because it always used to be. and the fstab (before the uuid stuff) specifically told it. Somehow sdb has become sde. I dont like gaps in my device names. It is too confusing.
[11:54] <|muelli|> ulisse: since I don't know either, try google. "cups debug" should show up some results
[11:54] <ulisse> |muelli|: ok, thanks, I'll try
[11:54] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: USB devices don't have fixed device names. The name they get depends on the order they were detected. So specifying the UUID in fstab allows the correct drive to be mounted no matter its name
[11:55] <Shamrock_hh> the problem I have is that sdb and sde are mirrors of each other.
[11:55] <|muelli|> roshan_s, Shamrock_hh: well, you can write udev rules to have the devices at, say, /dev/usbhd0 or so :-P
[11:56] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: Do you mean the same device shows up as both "sdb" and "sde"? That seems a bit out of the ordinary
[11:56] <Shamrock_hh> I had googled too, so I know its not just me.  I wonder what went wrong though..
[11:57] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: But in this case, fstab and mount are showing the same thing. Only that fstab refers to it by UUID, while mount shows the actual device name
[11:57] <isaks> epennings: thanks
[11:57] <ferret_0561> s
[11:57] <Shamrock_hh> and where does /dev(mapper come into it?
[11:58] <epennings> isaks: no problem
[11:58] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: That's because you created LVM volume groups on the USB device
[11:58] <Shamrock_hh> I did? What is a LVM colume group and how did I create it?
[11:59] <arkaitz> How can I see where an application is installed? I want to add some applications at startup in the session, but I dont really know where they are placed. e.a. Gaim
[11:59] <ulisse> |muelli|: I enabled the log, the first line is: E [31/Mar/2007:09:31:27 +0200]  Unable to bind socket for address <IP_ADDRESS>:631 - Cannot assign requested address.
[11:59] <ulisse> |muelli|: I think it can be the problem, what do you think about?
[12:00] <Shamrock_hh> ls -l
[12:00] <Shamrock_hh> oops! sorry.
[12:00] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: I assumed you must have created it during installation. If you haven't... Could you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb /dev/sde"
[12:00] <|muelli|> well ulisse. thats rather strange, since you told me, that you can netcat to localhost:631, which means, that a process has opened that port :-|
[12:00] <splashtk> Hey all, I just got a TV Tuner card and was wondering where I would start to try and set it up on ubuntu. :)
[12:01] <|muelli|> arkaitz: try "which gaim'
[12:01] <epennings> arkaitz: most applications are in /usr/bin, like /usr/bin/gaim
[12:01] <|muelli|> arkaitz: most of the stuff is under /usr/bin/
[12:01] <michup> kingcobra: if i turn my wifi on now eaven there is no wireless connection here it should get boot?
[12:01] <roshan_s> splashtk: Have you inserted the card? If so you could start by pasting the output of "lspci"
[12:02] <[WaZ] > /usr/bin are for symbollic links... most apps are installe in /usr/share
[12:02] <[WaZ] > installed
[12:02] <splashtk> roshan_s, ,yep instered, okay :)
[12:02] <splashtk> roshan_s,  *inserted
[12:02] <arkaitz> so adding /usr/bin/gaim would be enough right?
[12:03] <|muelli|> arkaitz: why don't you just try it?
[12:03] <splashtk> roshan_s, 00:06.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port]  (rev 05)
[12:03] <splashtk> 00:06.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port]  (rev 05)
[12:03] <[WaZ] > arkaitz: what are you trying to do?
[12:03] <vlt|l> Hello. I want to run hplip 1.7.3 I compiled and installed successfully the way described in the wiki on the hplip site but get "hpiod: unable to bind socket 2208: Cannot assign requested address". I did an an strace for starting hpssd.py: http://rafb.net/p/QrG2Rd29.html -- Can anynone see what's hplip's problem here?
[12:03] <ulisse> |muelli|: is there a way to check what processes uses that port?
[12:03] <arkaitz> [WaZ] : try to launch some applications at startup
[12:03] <roshan_s> splashtk: Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:03] <|muelli|> yep ulisse. Try "lsof -i" or netstat
[12:03] <splashtk> \k
[12:03] <[WaZ] > arkaitz: didn't work in System/Applications/Sessions?
[12:04] <[WaZ] > euh preferences
[12:04] <adrian_> newbie to ubuntu here - cant get synaptics update to work - can't seem to connect!
[12:04] <Shamrock_hh> roshan_s: I have been an idiot. I was chasing my own tail. I know what it is now and where the hassles have come from. my fstab was upgraded to UUID and for some reason the device "names" (e.g sde) changed. But the upgrade did not change the mount point in /media. So for example the mount in /media for sde2 is sdb2  .....
[12:04] <arkaitz> [WaZ] : Im trying that now
[12:04] <roshan_s> Shamrock_hh: That makes sense.
[12:04] <[WaZ] > in Startup programs just add "gaim"
[12:04] <splashtk> roshan_s, now what?
[12:04] <Shamrock_hh> roshan_s: me being an idiot ot where the confusion came from :-;
[12:05] <|Nihil|> Hey, quick question since I'm unfamiliar with gnome, how do I go about making my icons not orange?
[12:05] <|muelli|> hm vlt|l. what about those missing files like /usr/share/hplip/base/models ? Aren't they supposed to be there?
[12:05] <[WaZ] > |Nihil|: in System>Preferences>Theme
[12:05] <|muelli|> |Nihil|: I think, there is an Art-Manager, which chooses Icons and stuff...
[12:05] <[WaZ] > |Nihil|: then Theme Details
[12:05] <[WaZ] > |Nihil|: then the Icon tab
[12:05] <splashtk> roshan_s, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13068/
[12:05] <epennings> |Nihil| Go to System > Preferences > Themes to change icons
[12:05] <ulisse> |muelli|: it doesn't seems to be anything on that port :(
[12:06] <|Nihil|> WaZ: Thanks!
[12:06] <[WaZ] > |Nihil|: you can install additional icon themes from gnome-look.org
[12:06] <silox> anyone here good on apache2 servers and php5?
[12:06] <|muelli|> ulisse: can you netcat on it? netcat localhost 631 ?
[12:06] <roshan_s> splashtk: Wait a minute
[12:07] <[WaZ] > silox: ask your question
[12:07] <splashtk> k
[12:07] <adrian_> Could anyone give me a hand getting synaptics up and running please?
[12:07] <ulisse> |muelli|: nope: localhost:631: forward host lookup failed: Unknown host : Connection timed out
[12:07] <roshan_s> splashtk: Is this a HDTV tuner?
[12:07] <splashtk> roshan_s, yes
[12:07] <ulisse> oh, sorry
[12:07] <silox> I cant access my index file, if i rename it to something else it works great....
[12:08] <roshan_s> splashtk: Don't have much experience there. I'll see if I can find something
[12:08] <splashtk> k
[12:08] <mrkev1n> i need to setup remote desktop using port 5900.... can someone help this newbie?
[12:08] <ulisse> |muelli|: with the right command (without ":" :P) it hangs there with no response
[12:09] <|muelli|> ulisse: that actually means, that this port is open. So an lsof -i should display the process which own this socket
[12:09] <|muelli|> mrkev1n: try "vino-preferences"
[12:09] <mrkev1n> thanks muelli
[12:09] <diminthedam> how do i assign a command line function to the F keys?
[12:09] <roshan_s> splashtk: What does "ls /dev/video*" give you?
[12:10] <splashtk> /dev/video  /dev/video0
[12:10] <vlt|l> |muelli|: On a second Ubuntu Dapper machine I can run it w/o errors and there files like  /usr/share/hplip/base/models don't exist either. I got a 2nd strace from that machine where it works and it contains dozens of lines matching "no such file" ...
[12:11] <silox> Whet i try to go to my root directory on my server it youst comes up a Save as window, it works great to open other files and index files in subdirs, but for some reason I cant access the root index file :/ Anyone knows whats wrong?
[12:11] <roshan_s> splashtk: Unless you have a webcam or another video device, that's your TV tuner card, already detected and with the driver loaded
[12:11] <splashtk> hm lol
[12:11] <splashtk> k
[12:11] <ulisse> |muelli|: here the result: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13069/
[12:11] <adrian_> when I click on 'reload' a dialogue box comes up telling me it is downloading Package information  1 file of 17 but then I get error messages telling me that there is a possible network problem
[12:12] <roshan_s> splashtk: Try downloading the "tvtime" package and run it
[12:12] <ulisse> |muelli|: I can't see any 631 in there...
[12:12] <splashtk> k
[12:12] <splashtk> i am using it now
[12:12] <splashtk> nothing is coming up :(
[12:12] <|muelli|> ulisse: try "lsof -i | grep 631" ;-)
[12:13] <KnowledgEngineer> someone e a webcam: Hercules Dualpix HD ?
[12:13] <Skylight> What the
[12:13] <ulisse> |muelli|: nothing.
[12:13] <Skylight> There's HD webcams?
[12:13] <Skylight> Cool
[12:13] <|muelli|> strange ulisse. Do have a firewall installed?!
[12:13] <roshan_s> splashtk: Try "lsmod | grep ^cx" and paste the output
[12:14] <seravitae> hey anyone know how to install fonts on ubuntu, i downloaded one off the net
[12:14] <apokryphos> seravitae: /msg ubotu fonts
[12:14] <seravitae> ta
[12:15] <linuxnooblah> !fonts
[12:15] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:15] <splashtk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13070/
[12:15] <ulisse> |muelli|: nope, it is a standard feisty instal
[12:16] <roshan_s> splashtk: Please give me the output of "dmesg | grep cx88"
[12:16] <lolbunnylol> hey guys i screwed up majorly yesterday and my boot loader stalls, stopping me from going into windows.  Error 22.
[12:19] <lolbunnylol> I deleted the partition ubuntu was in, and converted it all into ntfs (windows format)
[12:19] <lolbunnylol> and yes, i know, its gay that i deleted ubuntu, but please help me, i cant get in windows because of the bootloader.
[12:20] <vlt|l> |muelli|: Your first thought was right! hplip tried to listen on <IP_ADDRESS> which wasn't up. Now I can start hplip and will now try to access the scanner ... Thank you ...
[12:20] <splashtk> DViCO FusionHDTV DVB-T1 but it's pro
[12:20] <[WaZ] > lolbunnylol: restroe MBR using windows installation CD
[12:20] <[WaZ] > google it for I have to leave
[12:21] <silox> Im having some problems with my webserver, I cant use PHP code in my index file, if I do it will only  come up a Save as window instead of the website... It works great if i rename it to something else or if i put it in a subdir.... Anyone here know whats wrong?
[12:22] <adrian_> Can anyone here help me with my download manager? Please?
[12:23] <splashtk> roshan_s, is that any help
[12:23] <roshan_s> splashtk: You need to find the "card=<number>" from that list and do "echo options cx88xx card=<whatever> | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/cx88xx"
[12:24] <splashtk> k
[12:24] <roshan_s> splashtk: Finding a close enough model should do fine
[12:24] <splashtk> ok
[12:24] <splashtk> thanks
[12:25] <|muelli|> vlt|l: good to know :) But how come, that lo is not up?!
[12:26] <roshan_s> splashtk: After that you need to unload and reload that module, and the easiest way to do that is to reboot. If it still doesn't work, you'll need to find someone who has used DVB cards before
[12:26] <splashtk> kk
[12:26] <splashtk> thanks
[12:27] <adrian_> As a total newbie here, can someone please tell me if I'm asking the wrong questions or perhaps breaking protocol in some way?
[12:27] <roshan_s> adrian_: Are you able to access websites, etc?
[12:28] <vlt|l> |muelli|: It' an LTSP thin client getting its "/" via NFS from a server ... maybe init script lacks `ifup lo` ...
[12:28] <zyn> I just set up two machines with ubuntu 6.10.  I have files on one that i need on the other.  How do i do that?
[12:28] <|muelli|> vlt|l: maybe ulisse has the same problem. Tell him, what you did
[12:28] <adrian_> yes - I'm on the 'net now
[12:28] <lasking> wine not support 32bit cursor?
[12:29] <lee_> hello can anyone here help me in installation of ubuntu on my pc?
[12:29] <SymmHome> hrm, same person Im talking to elsewhere?
[12:29] <roshan_s> adrian_: Can you try accessing "http://archive.ubuntu.com" in your web browser
[12:29] <splashtk> roshan_s,  echo options cx88xx card=15 | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/cx88xx that comes back with "options cx88xx card=15"
[12:29] <vlt|l> ulisse: |muelli| said you probably got the same problm than me ... What exactly are you trying?
[12:30] <SymmHome> while you're at it can someone see if they can access http://za.archive.ubuntu.com for me, wanna check its all working ok
[12:30] <ghetek> guys, how do i copy everythign in my current directory to the directory right before it? is it "cp * ../"?
[12:30] <roshan_s> splashtk: That's fine. "cat /etc/modprobe.d/cx88xx" should show the same thing in the file
[12:30] <adrian_> roshan_ - yes - opens up straight away
[12:30] <lee_> hi
[12:30] <splashtk> yep, so reboot?
[12:30] <roshan_s> adrian_: Did you need to enter proxy server information in your browser to access the web?
[12:30] <roshan_s> splashtk: Yes
[12:30] <splashtk> k brb :)
[12:31] <lee_> :)
[12:31] <lee_> hello can anyone help me?
[12:31] <adrian_> nope - direct connection via WEP enabled wireless
[12:31] <cypher1> !ask | lee_
[12:31] <ubotu> lee_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:31] <lee_> how do i insatll ubuntu?
[12:31] <adrian_> I did have to disable IPv6 though in about config.......
[12:32] <zyn> How do i move files between two machines with ubuntu 6.10 installed?  we share an internet connection through a router
[12:32] <adrian_> lee: download a disc
[12:32] <lee_> i hav a live cd.
[12:32] <cypher1> zyn: FTP
[12:32] <adrian_> lee - put it in - does it have an install option when it is running?
[12:33] <roshan_s> adrian_: Can you pastebin the contents of your "/etc/apt/sources.list" file
[12:33] <zyn> ok.... is there an ftp server in the generic install or do i need to install and configure one myself?
[12:33] <adrian_> roshan - just a moment..
[12:33] <lee_> yeah when i restart my pc with cd in it it has an install option.
[12:34] <cypher1> zyn: you have to install
[12:34] <lee_> i don't know the installation procedure.
[12:34] <roshan_s> zyn: You can use the samba server. Install the "samba" package. Or install the "openssh-server" package and use the "Places>Connect to Server" menu to connect from one comp to the other. Use "SSH" as the protocol, and your usual username and password
[12:35] <lee_> adrain_ so how do i install?
[12:35] <zyn> Roshan_s:  I don't appear to have openssh-server as an option in my package manager
[12:35] <adrian_> lee - click on the install option, folow instructions!
[12:36] <ghetek> guys, how do i copy everythign in my current directory to the directory right before it? is it "cp * ../"? i just tried it and it copied everything except directories... ideas?
[12:36] <lee_> it shows no option!
[12:36] <cypher1> ghetek: use "-r" command line option
[12:36] <roshan_s> zyn: Are you using Synaptic (System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager)
[12:36] <adrian_> roshan - how do I paste here... can't remember!
[12:37] <zyn> no
[12:37] <ghetek> cypher1: so its "cp * ../ -r"?
[12:37] <zyn> I was using Applications -> add/remove
[12:37] <roshan_s> adrian_: Use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:37] <lee_> adrain_ plz help.
[12:37] <cypher1> ghetek: no cp -r * ..
[12:38] <nazgjunk> hey, i just installed emacs, but for some reason i get a graphical version by default
[12:38] <roshan_s> zyn: Add/Remove only contains GUI apps, not servers and such
[12:38] <nazgjunk> how could i set it to use the non-graphical one?
[12:38] <adrian_> roshan: try here... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13078/
[12:39] <zyn> ok, i just installed the server.  now what?
[12:39] <ulisse> |muelli|, vlt|l, I have to go now, but I think I found the problem: in /network/interfaces is missing the loopback interface, I dunno how it can be happened! I'll bbl and tell you if it was that.
[12:39] <adrian_> lee - when I installed it Ubuntu ran off the CD and an install option appeared on the desktop. I clicked on that and I was away....
[12:40] <vanesp> Hi all, am running todays Fiesty Partial Dist Upgrade... but does not seem to complete. Uses no more CPU but does not go beyond "Stting up openoffic.... industrial". Has anyone else seen this? Do I just wait or can I kill Distribution Upgrade?
[12:40] <|muelli|> thats awesome ulisse, vlt|l. Never thought, that some OS might lack an loopback device (except for windows OS' *fg*)
[12:40] <ghetek> cypher1: thanks!
[12:40] <cypher1> ghetek: ur welcome!
[12:41] <roshan_s> zyn: Now, on the other computer, go to Places > Connect to Server. Use SSH as the protocol. Use the SSH server machine's name or IP address in the "Server" field, and the username you use on the server in the "Username" field
[12:42] <roshan_s> adrian_: That sources.list is really messed up.   I assume ipconfig won't work, ya?
[12:42] <roshan_s> zyn: ifconfig
[12:42] <adrian_> hmm - that bit was probably me trying to add things......  It is a brand new install
[12:43] <roshan_s> adrian_: You should get a standard sources.list file from somewhere and use that.
[12:43] <fufy> people help me :(
[12:43] <zyn> ok.  What port?
[12:43] <cypher1> fufy: what is your problem ?
[12:44] <roshan_s> zyn: Leave the port and other settings blank
[12:44] <fufy> cypher1,  http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothg0.png  watch ;/
[12:44] <adrian_> roshan - yep, probably, but the problem is definitely a network one - look at this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13079/
[12:45] <zyn> roshan_s thank you
[12:45] <cypher1> fufy: is that from the update manager ?
[12:45] <fufy> yes
[12:45] <roshan_s> zyn: np
[12:46] <fufy> i reinstall system changed sources.list to latvian for best speed download all packaged
[12:46] <fufy> all ok
[12:46] <zyn> I have more dumb questions - I have a usb webcam that i use as  a mic in windows.  I can't seem to find anything about setting it up, anyone tell me about that?
[12:46] <fufy> and when i install popup this error ;(
[12:46] <roshan_s> adrian_: Try opening security.ubuntu.com. I've been hearing that it's been a bit slow lately
[12:46] <adrian_> here are the individual source errors - all network ones!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13080/
[12:47] <roshan_s> adrian_: Okay, your DNS resolution is not working. It thinks gb.archive.ubuntu.com is at <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:47] <Priest-of-Psi> hi all
[12:47] <Priest-of-Psi> anyone here using the gnome torrent client?
[12:48] <adrian_> roshan - that sounds hopeful. what does it mean? what do I do?  Thanks for the help by the way.
[12:48] <roshan_s> roshan_s: Try "ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com" and see if it gives the same IP address. I'm surprised it's working in your browser. Try opening gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <Agiofws> hello
[12:48] <fufy> cypher1,  you know wtf ? :( and how can i repair that ..
[12:48] <roshan_s> adrian_: That was for you: Try "ping gb.archive.ubuntu.com" and see if it gives the same IP address. I'm surprised it's working in your browser. Try opening gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:48] <johannes> hey, anyone here can tell me what the correct package is for ubuntu? I get this error during java compilation with ant: "package org.jdesktop.jdic.tray does not exist"
[12:49] <Agiofws> what device manager app does ubuntu use ?
[12:49] <cypher1> fufy: is that error consistent ?
[12:49] <fufy> hmm
[12:50] <fufy> i dont know whats it "Consistent" "D
[12:50] <arkaitz> Hey
[12:50] <adrian_> roshan - ping works v quick in a terminal, http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com opens straight away in my browser.
[12:51] <arkaitz> one question, how can I control remotelly a friend's computer, we both run Ubuntu 6.10  I installed svncviewer, do I need something else?
[12:51] <lupusbeta> was kann es fr einen Grund haben, wenn ich nur noch die tty1 am laufen habe und mein tty7 fr die GUI? tty2-6 sind alle nicht da...
[12:52] <fufy> cypher1,  ok what can i do ?? to repair that ?
[12:52] <cypher1> fufy: can you see whether you have any broken packages or packages which need reinstallation in your machine ?
[12:52] <idefix__> why does installing wine require wine-doc and winesetuptk to be uninstalled?
[12:52] <roshan_s> adrian_: Can you open Synaptic and check that your network settings are alright?
[12:53] <roshan_s> adrian_: That's Settings > Preferences > Network
[12:53] <fufy> cypher1,  wait i copy all
[12:54] <cypher1> fufy: use pastebin
[12:54] <arkaitz> one question, how can I control remotelly a friend's computer, we both run Ubuntu 6.10  I installed svncviewer, do I need something else?
[12:54] <cypher1> !pastebin > fufy
[12:54] <fufy> cypher1,  http://paste.org.ru/?srgypi
[12:54] <fufy> i know ;D
[12:54] <adrian_> roshan - the only options on the Network tab are 'Direct connection to the network' and 'Use Proxy settings'. I have the first option highlighted as the one to use. There are no other settings that I can see to change....
[12:54] <lupusbeta> arkaitz, port forwarding for the vnc ports maybe
[12:55] <roshan_s> arkaitz: Your friend needs to go to System > Preferences > Remote Desktop and enable it. Then you can use xvncviewer <IP address or name> to access their computer
[12:55] <arkaitz> lupusbeta: ports are already opened
[12:55] <Agiofws> what device manage does ubuntu use ?
[12:55] <ph8>  Hey all - memory on my machine (there's 3GB!) seems to getting exhausted at about 4am every morning - the kernel then goes into a oom_killer'ing spree which usually cripples the httpd/email for up to 45 minutes. according to /proc/meminfo I have 1.3GB of memory free pretty routinely.. so two questions, is there a way to see what's taking up the memory besides waiting for it to happen again, and also - shouldn't it be using swap or something?
[12:55] <arkaitz> thx
[12:55] <roshan_s> adrian_: This is really strange. What are the contents of your "/etc/resolv.conf" file?
[12:55] <peterflute_> Hello all, and good morning from Spain
[12:56] <fufy> cypher1,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13084/
[12:56] <Agiofws> ph8,  i think i there is a special  option in kernel for that kind of memory
[12:56] <peterflute_> I have an nvidia issue with feisty beta. Can anyone spare a sec to give advice please_
[12:56] <gdi2k> greetings all. just installed the feisty beta, very sweet! however, the kernel only recognizes one of my two cores. I have an AMD X2. There doesn't seem to be an alternative kernel. any suggestions?
[12:56] <user_> Hello. I've just installed Feisty. Where do I get xine , w32 codecs and the latest flash and java ? thank you
[12:57] <ph8> ph8: For using swap over killing things?
[12:57] <peterflute_> user....Just try to view a file and a window will pop up to allow you to install the codecs
[12:57] <cypher1> fufy: please do ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.1.9ubuntu7.1_i386.deb
[12:57] <adrian_> roshan - just one line in there: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:57] <user_> uauu.. :-)
[12:57] <user_> thanks
[12:57] <Agiofws> hey what device manager doe gnome use ?  a user here is getting device unknown  messages is there anything he can do to stop this messages from showing up in the device manager ?
[12:58] <peterflute_> Any NVIDIA help here??
[12:59] <fufy> cypher1,  ok
[12:59] <roshan_s> !ask > peterflute_
[12:59] <fufy> cypher1,  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36652 2006-08-03 14:10 /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.1.9ubuntu7.1_i386.deb
[01:00] <mickers> weet iemand hoe je  spellen op je psp kan downloaden? kom dan prive of zo
[01:01] <cypher1> fufy: can you try removing that deb file from /var/cache/apt/archives and again doing a upgrade ?
[01:01] <cypher1> fufy: remove base-files*.deb file only
[01:01] <Jowi> peterflute_, feisty support is in #ubuntu+1
[01:01] <fufy> cypher1,  sudo apt-get remove /
[01:01] <roshan_s> adrian_: Can you try an "nslookup gb.archive.ubuntu.com"
[01:01] <cypher1> fufy: no!
[01:02] <fufy> I use linux 5 days :))
[01:02] <fufy> can you say me what i need to remove ;/
[01:02] <cypher1> fufy: i believe the machine has internet connection
[01:02] <vlt|l> Hello. Does anyone know how to tell `scanimage` to access a remote saned? Can't find anything about it in the manpage.
[01:02] <peterflute_> thanks jowi
[01:03] <cypher1> fufy: sudo rm  /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.1.9ubuntu7.1_i386.deb; sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:03] <adrian_> roshan -seems ok... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13085/
[01:04] <fufy> cypher1,  i love you ^^ all fine
[01:04] <fufy> he makes upgrade
[01:04] <cypher1> fufy: great
[01:04] <fufy> very big thanx !
[01:04] <fufy> thanks
[01:04] <fufy> cypher1,  how much you use linux ?
[01:04] <cypher1> fufy: thanks for lovin me too ;)
[01:04] <roshan_s> adrian_: I can't figure out why every program on your system gets the correct address for the Ubuntu archive, except apt-get
[01:05] <cypher1> fufy: quite often
[01:05] <fufy> ^^
[01:05] <fufy> nice
[01:05] <arkaitz> roshan_s: it says Unable to connect to VNC server on my side
[01:05] <fufy> cypher1,  if i have bad video card. beryl lags ?
[01:05] <adrian_> roshan - odd isn't it! This is a new install on a clean disc. Shouldn't be a problem.
[01:06] <zyn> I have an issue with a machine that's capable of 1280x1024 only allowing the res to be set to 1024*768.  How do i solve that?
[01:06] <cypher1> fufy: i think if you have a good video card beryl should run nicely
[01:06] <adrian_> roshan - where does apt-get look up the address?
[01:06] <Terrasque> zyn: xorg.conf
[01:06] <fufy> cypher1,  hmm okey thanks :P
[01:06] <cypher1> fufy: welcome :)
[01:07] <roshan_s> adrian_: Same place every other program does, it uses /etc/resolv.conf
[01:07] <bayziders> Where can I find a list of supported wireless cards?
[01:07] <roshan_s> arkaitz: Probably a port forwarding or firewall issue
[01:07] <adrian_> roshan - Where do we go from here? Is this fixable?
[01:07] <baktaah> Anyone know how to use Screenlets?
[01:08] <roshan_s> adrian_: I'm not sure. I think some kind of stray configuration file is messing things up
[01:08] <arkaitz> no firewall. how can I see which port VNC is using and how can I access to my router to open them? I donno how to do it using linux Im pretty new using this
[01:08] <Jowi> bayziders, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:09] <adrian_> roshan - can I force a system update via a terminal? and if so how? would that help?
[01:10] <arkaitz> roshan_s:  no firewall. how can I see which port VNC is using and how can I access to my router to open them? I donno how to do it using linux Im pretty new using this
[01:10] <roshan_s> adrian_: Paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*"
[01:11] <Jowi> arkaitz, "sudo lsof -i tcp" and see if you can spot the vnc. an alternative to this is to install and use "nmap" or to have a look in your vnc config or log. you will have to look in your router manual on how to access and configure it.
[01:11] <vlt|l> Hello. Does anyone know how to tell `scanimage` to access a remote saned? Can't find anything about it in the manpage.
[01:11] <roshan_s> arkaitz: The ports need to be opened on your friend's router, not on your end
[01:12] <zyn> how do i stop X from a terminal?
[01:12] <Jowi> arkaitz, it is always the router on the server end (not client) that needs to be configured.
[01:12] <arkaitz> roshan_s:  I know how to configure my router but not where to access to it, in windows is using cmd and then telnet, but I donno where to start in ubuntu
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> zyn: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ; sudo killall -9 xorg
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> ^^ should do it, I think
[01:13] <adrian_> roshan - youre help is really appreciated.  Here is the paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13086/
[01:13] <SlimeyPete> (if you just kill xorg, gdm will restart it)
[01:13] <roshan_s> arkaitz: VNC operates on port 5900 and above. You can use telnet on linux too (or rather, your friend will need to do it) Doesn't their router have a webbased configuration
[01:13] <Ultima> hi
[01:13] <Ultima> I'm wondering, i'm using Simple64 to setup WINE, But I don't know where Wine has been installed to
[01:14] <vlt|l> `scanimage --device-name ...` tells scanimage which device to use. Do I have to prepend something like "<IP_ADDRESS>://" to it?
[01:14] <Schalke1> few, a relogin fixed it
[01:14] <roshan_s> adrian_: That looks fine. Also do an "ls /etc/apt/"
[01:15] <adrian_> not a lot there -apt.conf.d  secring.gpg  sources.list  sources.list.d  sources.list.save  trustdb.gpg  trusted.gpg  trusted.gpg~
[01:15] <Jowi> Ultima, "whereis wine" will let you know where all its files are. your user config (with installed applications) are in /home/user/.wine
[01:15] <we2by> !quicktime
[01:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:16] <Jowi> Ultima, if you can not get good wine answers in here there is also #winehq (the official wine channel)
[01:16] <roshan_s> adrian_: That seems fine too. May you can try "sudo apt-get update" once again and see if it works?
[01:17] <Ultima> hi
[01:18] <Snoppy> Hi
[01:18] <adrian_> roshan - I get:  [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]   !!!!
[01:18] <Ultima> is anyone there?
[01:19] <zulfajuniadi> nopr
[01:19] <zulfajuniadi> nope
[01:19] <adrian_> ultima - I'm here!
[01:19] <vlt|l> Prepending saned's ip doesn't work. How to tell scanimage where the saned listens?
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Ultima: the other 1018 people aren't here, really ;)
[01:20] <Ultima> lol
[01:20] <Snoppy> Im logget in as root but every time i try to get in conf files I get "permission denied"
[01:20] <zulfajuniadi> make that 1020
[01:20] <Ultima> ANyway anyone heard of Simple64?
[01:20] <adrian_> I haven't
[01:20] <Ultima> It installs programs like WIne for 64 Bit Ubuntu
[01:21] <roshan_s> adrian_: Finally, there could be some kind of problem in your sources.list, which wasn't complete the last time you pasted it. Do this "grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}"
[01:23] <adrian_> roshan - not sure if this is what you are looking for: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13087
[01:26] <roshan_s> adrian_: Can you check System > Preferences > Network Proxy" to make sure it's correct. Also, paste the output of the "env" command
[01:27] <StoneNewt> anyone using fingerprint authentifcation here?
[01:28] <adrian_> roshan - System > Preferences > Network Proxy is set to 'Direct connection to the internet.    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13088/
[01:28] <StoneNewt> I'm finding that I can't get the auth to work on the first swipe, it always works only on the second swipe & I'd like to change that
[01:28] <vlt|l> It's `scanimage --device-name net:<IP_ADDRESS>:hpaio:/usb/...` in my case. Solved.
[01:30] <roshan_s> adrian_: That's fine too. Does "ps aux | grep apt" return anything?
[01:31] <roshan_s> adrian_: Except the "grep apt" process itself?
[01:31] <adrian_> I got - adrian    8625  0.0  0.2   2812   768 pts/0    S+   12:29   0:00 grep apt  for the first one. Don't understand your second comment - sorry
[01:32] <idefix__> can anyone please help me with a small number input error in some program run by wine?
[01:33] <idefix__> I'm trying to input the 9-digit number and I cannot enter the last figure and when I press tab or enter the first digit is a 0
[01:33] <lucifiel> ughhhh >>;; does anyone know a good wiki or guide for people new to Linux and Ubuntu?
[01:33] <roshan_s> adrian_: I'm running out of ideas here... Could you try replacing "gb.archive.ubuntu.com" with "archive.ubuntu.com" in your /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update again
[01:34] <we2by> faac -m4 -b64 -r48000 -pLC ghost.audio.pcm -o ghost.audio.mp4
[01:34] <we2by> what is wrong with that command?
[01:34] <adrian_> will do..
[01:34] <idefix-desperate> please help me!
[01:35] <messy> anyone help with terminal?
[01:35] <IdleOne> idefix-desperate, wiki.ubuntu.com and try google it is your freind
[01:35] <cypher1> messy: what is your problem ?
[01:36] <roshan_s> adrian_: I found several mentions of your problem on Google, let me find a fix
[01:36] <messy> i was messing around. trying to move a file from the home directory to Desktop. i did this:
[01:36] <messy>  mv apples ~Desktop
[01:36] <cypher1> messy: ok
[01:36] <messy> i wanted to move the file apples to desktop
[01:36] <roshan_s> adrian_: Look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=433314
[01:36] <adrian_> roshan - thanks. I looked on Google, but didn't know what to look for!
[01:36] <messy> i think i did
[01:36] <messy> but cant find it
[01:37] <Jowi> messy, ~/Desktop
[01:37] <cypher1> messy: try ls -l ~Desktop
[01:37] <Jowi> messy, you forgot the slash
[01:37] <roshan_s> adrian_: It appears to be a bug in apt-get
[01:37] <Jowi> messy, the file is probably in the same directory as before but renamed to "~Desktop"
[01:38] <messy> -rw-r--r-- 1 carbon carbon 7 2007-03-31 12:27 ~Desktop         <<< ok thats what i got
[01:38] <cypher1> messy: that is your apple ;)
[01:39] <messy> oo
[01:39] <OrTigaS> where's the files go when you download it?
[01:39] <anvo> What's the location of the C headers files...?
[01:39] <roshan_s> adrian_: Or rather, it's a problem with D-Link routers
[01:39] <adrian_> roshan - how to I find my ISPsc DNS servers?
[01:39] <cypher1> OrTigaS: do you mean the files downloaded by apt ?
[01:39] <Jowi> messy, if ~Desktop would have had drw-r--r-- then it would have been a directory. the "d" in the beginning say so. if that is "-" instead it is a normal file.
[01:39] <OrTigaS> cypher1: yeah
[01:40] <timofeji> Hello
[01:40] <liberty_> How are you gentleman?
[01:40] <roshan_s> adrian_: Log in to your router's configuration page. Look around for Status or something similar. Look for the DNS servers setting
[01:40] <cypher1> OrTigaS: /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:40] <messy> ok. wheree did i put it then? i dont see it on the desktop
[01:40] <Jowi> messy, mv ~Desktop ~/Desktop/apples
[01:40] <cypher1> messy: mv ~Desktop apple; mv apple ~/Desktop
[01:41] <cypher1> mesha: Jowi's version is better :)
[01:41] <adrian_> Thanks roshan - I'll have a search around. I really Appreciate your help. I'd never have found this out myself. :-)
[01:41] <OrTigaS> oh! thanks ! there's alot in there
[01:41] <cypher1> OrTigaS: yes
[01:41] <cypher1> OrTigaS: /var/cache/apt/archives/partial for partially downloaded
[01:41] <ggoogi> what do i need to check to see if the microphone is working properly? i have not been able to record anything using mic. it plays sound just fine.
[01:42] <messy> yeahhh. i got it back : )
[01:42] <messy> though im not entirely sure how
[01:42] <OrTigaS> thanks cypher1
[01:42] <cypher1> OrTigaS: welcome
[01:42] <Jowi> messy, mv is used both to move files and to rename them.
[01:43] <messy> ok thanks
[01:43] <roshan_s> adrian_: This is the relevant bug report https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/81057
[01:43] <messy> im practising using the terminal
[01:43] <Jowi> !commands | messy (this is a good read)
[01:43] <ubotu> messy (this is a good read): The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:44] <cypher1> messy:  nice.. keep on learing
[01:45] <messy> ahh cd is to change a directory.
[01:45] <lucifiel> ugh ... why does ubuntu need to install so many packages and such for simple tasks like playing mp3s, etc. .... *sighs*
[01:45] <LjL> lucifiel: legal concerns
[01:46] <messy> cd/  will change me to root directory?
[01:46] <jrib> messy: no, this will:  cd /
[01:46] <LjL> Jowi, btw, ethtool does work nicely to check link state... the only thing i didn't consider (though you briefly mentioned it) is wake-on-LAN, which means that the NIC stays live even when the computer is *off* ;)
[01:46] <lucifiel> ljl: ah well, this is turning out to be a real hassle. >>;; maybe i ought to start using winxp again(i've it on dual boot)
[01:46] <Jowi> messy, read that link that ubotu gave. it explains alot. "cd" need a space after it.
[01:46] <messy> shouldnt i stay clear of that for a while. isnt root important
[01:46] <LjL> so the link is always marked "on" even if there's no computer =)
[01:46] <messy> could i mess it up
[01:46] <OrTigaS> hi! what plugins do i get to work this video streaming..... fugly.com
[01:47] <jrib> messy: yes
[01:47] <LjL> messy: as long as *you* are not logged in as root (i.e. using "sudo"), you cannot mess with root-owned files even if you want to
[01:47] <LjL> lucifiel: well, installing MP3 support isn't that hard, though. i suppose there's other things you want to get installed besides mp3?
[01:48] <messy> ok . im logged in as the first user from install. so even in the terminal i can t mess it up?
[01:48] <Jowi> LjL, nice that it worked out for you. btw, can you use ethtool to check the link state on remote machines...?
[01:48] <LjL> messy: you can mess up your *own* files, but not the system's files, unless you use "sudo" before a command (and that asks you for a password)
[01:48] <liberty_> All your base are belong to us.
[01:48] <Jowi> LjL, if Wake-on-lan is active I mean
[01:48] <messy> ok
[01:48] <lucifiel> ljl: yeah it isn't that hard but... i'm getting really frustrated. how do i add in a package into synaptic? :/
[01:49] <LjL> Jowi: not sure what you mean there - basically if i type "ethtool ethX" where ethX is connected directly to a remote machine, it will say "link up" whenever the wire is plugged in, irrespective of whether the remote machine is turned on or off
[01:49] <LjL> (of course, if it's not *powered* at all, it'll say "link down")
[01:49] <lucifiel> ljl: somehow, i really don't want to install via Terminal unless absolutely necessary.
[01:50] <LjL> it's quite natural once you think of it - if wake on LAN is supported, it means the interface must be always on - but it's a factor i didn't quite consider
[01:50] <messy> so like say if i go into networking. to change a wireless config. and i get asked for a password "graphical box". am i making an important change ther? is that changing root?
[01:51] <LjL> lucifiel, in order to *see* the relevant packages in Synaptic, you need to enable the relevant *repository* first (which is not enabled by default due, again, to legal concerns mainly)
[01:51] <LjL> !multiverse > lucifiel    (lucifiel, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:51] <lucifiel> ljl: all right, thank you. :)
[01:51] <LjL> lucifiel: enable the Universe and the Multiverse repositories. it can be done through the "Software Sources" control panel, i think (i always use the terminal though, and i don't have GNOME), but that link has all the information anyway
[01:51] <Jowi> LjL, I meant that if there are several nics plugged into, let's say, a switch, I can use this method to check the link to the switch but can ethtool also be used to check the link to other nics connected to the switch...? I don't think it can but would be cool.
[01:51] <varka> what alternatives to teamspeak are there searching for voice-chat programs that aim for conferencing of several people at the same time
[01:51] <LjL> !mp3 > lucifiel    (lucifiel, see the private message from Ubotu) | and this one tells you which packages are needed for MP3
[01:51] <[GuS] > Hi guys!!
[01:52] <LjL> Jowi: ah right - no, it can't. it will just check the state of the switch
[01:52] <[GuS] > i have a doub... i currently running Kubuntu, and i always asked myselft to to use natively the icons of Gnome (or ubuntu) for my GTK apps? cause i awlays see the old icons from Gnome
[01:52] <lucifiel> ljl: thank you again 'cos uhhh...   Thanks so much. Downloads ongoing as I type this. :-) Thank you so much.  This is a nice welcome to the Ubuntu community.
[01:52] <[GuS] > how could i do that?
[01:53] <Jowi> LjL, thanks for the update :)
[01:53] <eternaljoy> if I run and boot ubuntu from my USB 1Gig strick, does it alter the HDD at all?
[01:53] <arkaitz> hey any other program like vnc? I cant use vnc I donno why, it doesnt work.
[01:53] <Jowi> arkaitz, freenx
[01:53] <Jowi> !freenx
[01:53] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:54] <roshan_s> adrian_: Glad to see your problem's fixed. If you really want to get rid of it properly, you might want to see if you router manufacturer has a firmware update. Or you could just leave it as it is now
[01:54] <[GuS] > anyone?
[01:55] <alextj> Are there any lightweight alternatives to Compiz, that have less eyecandy and focus more on productivity?
[01:55] <adrian_> My router needs to go I think. It has problems with IPv6 too and won't let me use Gaim either. Anyway, I'm off now to update and try out ubuntu properly. Thanks once again
[01:55] <roshan_s> adrian_: You're welcome
[01:56] <Seveas> jrib, poke
[01:56] <burkmat> Trying to install Ubuntu from the CD, but as soon as I pass the screen where I can choose "Run/Install, Check Memory" and such my keyboard stops working and NumLock, Caps and ScrollLock all start blinking... How do I make my keyboard work? >_>
[01:56] <BQuadra> salve a tutti :)
[01:56] <variant> does apt use wget for downloading or some custom program?
[01:57] <variant> as i want to set a limmit to it's bandwidth use
[01:57] <Askar> whats name of my wireless cards kernel module..?
[01:58] <Askar> How to find out?
[01:58] <Seveas> variant, it uses something internal
[01:58] <eternaljoy> if I run and boot ubuntu from my USB 1Gig stick, does it alter the HDD at all?
[01:58] <variant> Seveas: any way to set limits?
[01:58] <Seveas> variant, man apt.conf
[01:58] <Seveas> maybe it's in there
[01:58] <variant> Seveas: thanks
[01:58] <Seveas> otherwise no idea :)
[01:58] <variant> hehe
[01:58] <erUSUL> eternaljoy: it shouldn't
[01:58] <IdleOne> eternaljoy, no it doesnt
[01:58] <eternaljoy> erUSUL: if I took out my hdd all together, will it still boot from my USB stick?
[01:59] <eternaljoy> IdleOne: that was meant for you
[02:00] <IdleOne> eteran, I have no idea. I would guess it would because your bios support booting from usb but then you would have absolutely no swap
[02:00] <thcmonkey> how easy is it to record satellite tv onto an ubuntu machine?
[02:00] <IdleOne> and would be running it all from ram
[02:00] <LjL> thcmonkey:  apt-cache search dvb
[02:00] <Askar>  whats name of my wireless cards kernel module..?
[02:00] <Askar> I havve g650+
[02:01] <LjL> thcmonkey: assuming you're using a sat tv card, that is
[02:01] <thcmonkey> how much is one gonna set me back? looking to do the set up today
[02:01] <IdleOne> thcmonkey, google satelite tv card
[02:01] <LjL> thcmonkey: unsure... i'd guess about 70, but maybe less
[02:02] <thcmonkey> sweet
[02:02] <LjL> thcmonkey: check out linuxtv.org for linux compatibility of TV cards
[02:02] <thcmonkey> o okay, cheers mate
[02:02] <lucifiel> lbl: okay man, i've installed the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly plugins but strangely, mp3s still refuse to play. hmmm...
[02:03] <thcmonkey> a tv card is in addition to gfx card, right?
[02:03] <eternaljoy> IdleOne: ok great!  i want to boot Ubuntu from my USB stick if my hdd ever fails
[02:03] <erUSUL> eternaljoy: well if it does not use the hd i can not see any reason not to?
[02:03] <erUSUL> eternaljoy: well if it does not use the hd i can not see any reason not to
[02:03] <LjL> thcmonkey: there used to be all-in-one graphics+tv cards, but yeah, right now they're mostly separate PCI cards or USB cards
[02:03] <thcmonkey> good... i just bought a new gfx card before i thought of doing this and really don't want it to become obsolete :(
[02:03] <thcmonkey> lol
[02:03] <IdleOne> erUSUL, ubuntu live cd does not kodify the HD but it does use the HD
[02:04] <LjL> thcmonkey: at least, the terrestrial tv ones are very popular on USB as well, maybe for sat PCI is the only real choice
[02:04] <thcmonkey> i have a spare pci so that's fine
[02:04] <eternaljoy> erUSUL: ok
[02:04] <eternaljoy> erUSUL: ok
[02:04] <thcmonkey> have a very old 56k modem in a pci so...
[02:04] <IdleOne> */modify not kodify
[02:04] <Firefoxman> Hi, if I am runing windows under qemu, should I format as NTFS or FAT?
[02:04] <LjL> thcmonkey: are you in europe or in the US? i mentioned DVB, but i'm not sure if US satellites use DVB-S as well as the one we point to in europe (though i think they do)
[02:05] <MatthewV> Firefoxman, it should make no difference
[02:05] <Firefoxman> Ok.
[02:05] <variant> Seveas: found it, it's possible to set for http method but i couldn't see anything about setting dl limits for ftp
[02:05] <MatthewV> Firefoxman, it runs as a complete virtual machine, so running ntfs or fat wont change anything...
[02:05] <Firefoxman> Thanks, MatthewV!
[02:05] <MatthewV> Firefoxman, no probs
[02:06] <lucifiel> ljl: okay man, i've installed the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly plugins but strangely, mp3s still refuse to play. hmmm...
[02:06] <LjL> lucifiel: close and reopen rhythmbox or whatever audio player you had running
[02:06] <thcmonkey> LjL: im in the uk
[02:07] <LjL> thcmonkey: DVB it is then
[02:07] <lucifiel> ljl: i already did that at least twice.
[02:07] <thcmonkey> LjL: do you have something similar setup
[02:07] <LjL> lucifiel: unsure. did you only install the one package you mentioned, or also the (many) other ones mentioned on that apt-get line?
[02:08] <Jowi> lucifiel, what player do you use when you try to play mp3?
[02:08] <lucifiel> ljl: yep, only that one package...
[02:08] <LjL> thcmonkey: not really, but since i recently bought a (crappy) DVB-T (i.e. terrestrial digital) USB card, i informed myself a little
[02:08] <thcmonkey> o okay lol
[02:08] <thcmonkey> well i'll be looking for a satellite card then
[02:08] <lucifiel> jowi: amarock, rhytymbox,
[02:08] <LjL> lucifiel: install them all (and for what is worth, just pasting that line verbatim into a terminal isn't going to do any harm, really)
[02:09] <lucifiel> ljl: uhm... you mean pasting that entire line, word for word, huh?
[02:09] <root__> hi
[02:09] <LjL> thcmonkey: i payed the terrestrial card 29, for the record. though i suppose satellite cards are a bit more specialized... given my (not very good) experience, though, i wouldn't aim to the *very* budget ones
[02:09] <Overcross> hi, anyone know how to type mathematic characters like "" in linux ?
[02:09] <Zaqq> any satellite card with cablecard support?
[02:09] <lucifiel> ljl: well, i'll install the other packages first. and then give Terminal a last resort. :-)
[02:10] <LjL> lucifiel, yes, into a terminal - sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[02:10] <thcmonkey> no, i'm looking for linux support so... i need something a little further up there i guess
[02:10] <LjL> lucifiel: if you're uncomfortable with that, just use Synaptic and hunt them one by one, it's the same thing really
[02:10] <thcmonkey> LjL out of curiosity, where do you live?
[02:10] <thcmonkey> holland?
[02:10] <LjL> thcmonkey: italy
[02:10] <thcmonkey> ah oki
[02:10] <root__> <IP_ADDRESS>l
[02:11] <LjL> why did you guess holland? (i suppose because they're almost doing the switch-over, aren't they?
[02:11] <thcmonkey> yeah, i mostly speak to dutch or german people on here
[02:11] <thcmonkey> multilingual
[02:11] <lucifiel> ljl: E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll <----- uhhh what's that mean?
[02:11] <erUSUL> lucifiel: that package is in the seveas repo iirc
[02:12] <LjL> lucifiel: probably that it was available in dapper but isn't in edgy, i'll check. just ignore it for the moment, anyway
[02:12] <erUSUL> !seveas | lucifiel
[02:12] <ubotu> lucifiel: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:12] <jrib> lucifiel: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:12] <LjL> erUSUL: but it's mentioned in the official restricted formats page
[02:12] <LjL> uhm, it *is* in universe, according to the bot - in both dapper and edgy
[02:12] <Firefoxman> Will seamless virtualization work with XP home, or is it jsut working with pro?
[02:13] <LjL> but it's only available for i386, are you on 64bit (and using 64bit ubuntu) by any chance, lucifiel?
[02:13] <MatthewV> Firefoxman, what exactly do you mean by seamless virtualization?
[02:13] <Firefoxman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[02:14] <arkaitz> Jowi: I have installed freenx do you know how to launch it now? I dont really know where it is installed
[02:14] <Overcross> hi, does anyone know how to type math characters in, for example ,kwordquiz, something like this: "(A  (A  B)" (this is copy&pasted) ?
[02:14] <MatthewV> Firefoxman, from what that page says, i would say only xp pro, as xp home does not include terminal services
[02:14] <Firefoxman> :(
[02:14] <LjL> lucifiel, wait, have you enabled just Multiverse, or Universe too? i mentioned Multiverse but if you have Multiverse you really should activate Universe too
[02:15] <NorthernLights> Hi there
[02:15] <erUSUL> LjL: you are right seveas' it's just a newer version, sorry
[02:15] <baktaah> What is the most Winamp looking mp3 player for Ubuntu?
[02:15] <LjL> xmms i suppose
[02:15] <Jowi> arkaitz, for using freenx the first time you're better off to read a guide for it. like this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:15] <erUSUL> baktaah: bmp and xmms
[02:15] <baktaah> What is the most Winamp looking mp3 player for Ubuntu? (that I can add buttons on the panel for it)
[02:15] <LjL> buttons on the panel, hm, checking
[02:15] <burkmat> Trying to install Ubuntu from the CD, but as soon as I pass the screen where I can choose "Run/Install, Check Memory" and such my keyboard stops working and NumLock, Caps and ScrollLock all start blinking... How do I make my keyboard work? >_>
[02:15] <eyalw> can connect to encrypted networks, help? (i am able to connect to not encrypted ones)
[02:16] <Firefoxman> What is te best remote desktop-like app for Ubuntu?
[02:16] <LjL> !info playground-plugin-xmms | baktaah
[02:16] <Odisseo> hi all
[02:16] <ubotu> baktaah: playground-plugin-xmms: XMMS control plugin for playground GNOME applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 68 kB
[02:16] <NorthernLights> firefoxman > freenx
[02:17] <Firefoxman> NorthernLights: Will I be able to use Windows as a client to it?
[02:17] <lucifiel> ljl and the others: oops sorry guys i went to get dinner...
[02:17] <NorthernLights> firefoxman > i think so
[02:17] <Odisseo> Can I ask you some questions about Kubuntu?
[02:17] <jhhsd> what is the difference between /dev/hdb and /dev/sda?
[02:17] <lucifiel> ljl: i have an amd64 processor but i'm running a 32bit version of ubuntu.
[02:17] <LjL> lucifiel: no problem. to summarize, make sure you have Universe enabled besides Multiverse, and also, if you're running 64-bit Ubuntu, that package will not be available
[02:17] <NorthernLights> firefoxman > <Jowi> arkaitz, for using freenx the first time you're better off to read a guide for it. like this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:17] <coty> I just downloaded a rar file with an encrytion but when i go to extract it it just gives an error an no box telling me to enter the passwork
[02:17] <LjL> lucifiel: ok then i suppose you really just don't have Universe enabled
[02:17] <Firefoxman> NorthernLights: Is there a prebuilt version for Fiesty?
[02:18] <arkaitz> Jowi: I read it, and I installed it following the steps, but I got a problem Installing the NX Client. I type /usr/NX/bin/nxclient & and nothing happens
[02:18] <Firefoxman> NorthernLights: I looked at the docs and coulndt find it.
[02:18] <Xtreem_> Odisseo, there is a #kubuntu on freenode which may be more useful to you
[02:18] <NorthernLights> firefoxman > there is for edgy, not sure for feisty
[02:18] <eyalw> can connect to encrypted networks, help? (i am able to connect to not encrypted ones)???
[02:18] <erUSUL> jhhsd: hdb: second hd in an pata ide disk | sda: first hd in a scsi lik bus (scsi, sata, usb)
[02:18] <Odisseo> Thank you xtreem
[02:18] <erUSUL> jhhsd: ide bus*
[02:18] <NorthernLights> firefoxman, you did not find some debian ones ?
[02:18] <LjL> lucifiel: the Ubuntu components are Main (free software maintained by the core developers), Restricted (non-free software by the core devs), Universe (free software by the community), Multiverse (non-free software by the community). where "non-free" includes anything with burdening patents on it (like MP3)
[02:19] <Firefoxman> NorthernLights: Nope.
[02:19] <Odisseo> even if I also have ubuntu...my problem is the same...the start up requires a lot of time because it performs file system check...how can I disable it?
[02:19] <jhhsd> erUSUL: thanks
[02:19] <lucifiel> ljl: yep, i just realised that... i'm enabling universe now. :)
[02:19] <NorthernLights> firefoxman, donesn't the ones for edgy can work on feisty ?
[02:19] <Firefoxman> NorthernLights: Actiauly, Yes, I did.
[02:19] <Jowi> arkaitz, don't know what prob that is. I only used freenx once and it worked on first try so I never needed to do any troubleshooting.
[02:20] <NorthernLights> firefox, that did not work ?
[02:20] <NorthernLights> (firefoxman)
[02:20] <Firefoxman> NorthernLights: I just found it.
[02:20] <NorthernLights> ok
[02:20] <lucifiel> ljl: sorry if i take a bit long to respond. a gal needs to have her food, too. ;)
[02:20] <LjL> lucifiel: Main and Restricted are enabled by default, but Universe and Multiverse aren't. almost everyone enables them, though... they're disabled 1) for legal concerns, patents etc 2) because the core developers cannot guarantee they will work and be updated timely
[02:20] <LjL> lucifiel: but everyone enables at least Universe, unless they're using Ubuntu as a specialized server or somesuch...
[02:20] <lucifiel> ljl: aha, all right, thank you... :)
[02:21] <Firefoxman> Are there any good Ubunut antivirus apps?
[02:21] <Firefoxman> Free ones?
[02:21] <NorthernLights> does someone know how much time it usually needs to have one's package commented on REVU after upload ?
[02:22] <IdleOne> !clamav  Firefoxman
[02:22] <jrib> NorthernLights: #ubuntu-motu is a better place to ask that.  It depends on how busy the reviewers are
[02:22] <IdleOne> !clamav  | Firefoxman
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <NorthernLights> thanks jrib
[02:22] <IdleOne> !info clamav
[02:22] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:23] <thcmonkey> LjL what sort of connectors am i gonna need from satellite box to tv card?
[02:23] <NorthernLights> i'm using clamav on to cleanup dirty windows boxes at work, it's nice
[02:23] <Firefoxman> good.
[02:23] <lucifiel> ljl: so basically, i'm still getting some error when i input the line you told me to paste. this time, it's " Command line option 'e' [from -extracodecs]  is not known."
[02:23] <burkmat> Trying to install Ubuntu from the CD, but as soon as I pass the screen where I can choose "Run/Install, Check Memory" and such my keyboard stops working and NumLock, Caps and ScrollLock all start blinking... How do I make my keyboard work? >_>
[02:24] <Firefoxman> NorthernLights: Actualy, I cannot find any freenx packages for debian.
[02:24] <LjL> thcmonkey: just the normal antenna cable, i think...
[02:25] <NorthernLights> firefoxman, i'm going to try to have a check
[02:25] <Geling> burkmat,  you connect your keyboard through usb right?
[02:25] <IdleOne> !seveas | Firefoxman you can get the freenx package from this repo
[02:25] <erUSUL> burkmat: keyboard leds blinking usually means a kernel panic. You can try some boot options and see if that helps
[02:25] <ubotu> Firefoxman you can get the freenx package from this repo: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:25] <LjL> lucifiel: must be a space that ended up into what i pasted by mistake, one sec
[02:25] <erUSUL> ubotu tell burkmat about boot | burkmat see priv msg from ubotu
[02:25] <NorthernLights> ok thanks idleone ^^
[02:25] <chazco> hi... does anyone know why hibernation breaks bluetooth in Edgy? It didnt on Breezy...
[02:25] <Firefoxman> IdleOne: But, does it work with fiesty?
[02:25] <LjL> lucifiel: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[02:26] <IdleOne> Firefoxman, probably not but maybe
[02:26] <LjL> lucifiel: uhm, it looks good here actually... make sure you don't have a space between "libxine" and "-extracodecs"
[02:26] <auTONYmous> I got problems with fakeraid...anybody here been able to do this yet?
[02:26] <Volks> guys i got a question.
[02:26] <lucifiel> ljl: woohoo, it seems to be working!!! thank you so much! :D
[02:27] <LjL> thcmonkey: peep at Hauppage's site, i think their cards are on average the ones best supported on Ubuntu (i'm thinking mostly of terrestrial TV, but i suppose they've got satellite too)
[02:27] <Volks> since i updated after installing 7.04 i can only run at 1024x768 at 54hertz
[02:27] <LjL> !fixres > Volks    (Volks, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:27] <lucifiel> ljl: you're a lifesaver and i need some real anger therapy. :p I'm so lucky I didn't punch the monitor. :P
[02:28] <dblomber> hello all, quick question, I want to dual boot a laptop I have, however it has pgp full disk encryption.  Trying to install from a live cd or the alternate CD does not work as the partitions aren't recoginzed as they are encrypted.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:28] <Volks> thanks ljl
[02:28] <Volks> hopefully this will work
[02:29] <jhhsd> !fixres > jhhsd
[02:29] <LjL> lucifiel: heh... well, the next version is supposed to have some easier means to activate MP3 and similar "restricted" formats, if that comforts you :)
[02:29] <Volks> and i also own a hauppage card which ive NEVER got to work with neither wind-blows or linux
[02:29] <LjL> lucifiel: (which does *not* mean that you will have to enable them *again* if you upgrade, mind you =)
[02:29] <KalleDK> Hey I got a laptop and wanna run Ubuntu as primairy system and WinXP as "virtuel".. So I thought of Feisty + VMPlayer (For WinXP) + Samba (For sharing files)... Is there a better way - performance way ???
[02:29] <Volks> use wine for your windows apps?
[02:29] <alextj> Can anyone help me with Friestarter? Installation gives me error, Firestarter doesn't start. Removing of firestarter also gives an error message.
[02:29] <LjL> KalleDK: VirtualBox is also an option to consider, i guess
[02:30] <Volks> ljl do you know how to get hauppage wintv cards to work?
[02:30] <LjL> !virtualizers > KalleDK    (KalleDK, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:30] <lucifiel> ljl: phew, that's fantastic. :p I'd probably start fuming otherwise since I basically detest command line after having to use it for almost 10 years.
[02:30] <KalleDK> Ljl I'll look at it.. wine is not an option.. its good but not as good as i want it ;)
[02:30] <chazco> when hibernating via the Ubuntu "quit" menu what actually happens? does it just run /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh ?
[02:30] <LjL> Volks: not really, i just know that many of them are (so they say) well supported by the IVTV drivers
[02:30] <dblomber> alextj, sounds like you have a broken package, have you tried using the broken filter in synaptic to correct it?
[02:30] <LjL> !ivtv > Volks    (Volks, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:30] <KalleDK> Thx Ljl
[02:30] <LjL> Volks: and also that linuxtv.org is a fine source of information about tv cards
[02:31] <jaminkle> i can't get my linksys wifi adapter to work >.< it's pci
[02:31] <Volks> thanks!
[02:31] <alextj> dblomber, no, i never heard or broken filter... ill check it out
[02:31] <dblomber> alextj,
[02:31] <alextj> dblomber, i see the Broken filter options
[02:31] <dblomber> cool
[02:31] <alextj> what should I select there?
[02:31] <LjL> KalleDK: WINE is a compatibility layer, it tries its best (and certainly makes running Windows apps way more seamless than with an emulator), but you must be lucky enough to use Windows apps that *do* work with WINE...
[02:32] <alextj> Lots of checkboxes under Current, Marked, Other...
[02:32] <Firefoxman> What command should I use to install apache, mysql, perl, phpmyadmin, and python? I just need it for a private server, not a production one.
[02:32] <dblomber> alextj, select broken on the left and make sure the checkbox for broken is selected and click OK, that may take care of it
[02:32] <jrib> !lamp > Firefoxman    (Firefoxman, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:32] <alextj> dblomber, well, it WAS already selected actually
[02:33] <Firefoxman> jrib: Will it work w/ fiesty?
[02:33] <teenbeat2007> how is feisty herd 5
[02:33] <StoneNewt> where is the shell PATH initally defined in ubuntu?
[02:33] <dblomber> alextj, select OK, and hopefully that finds the package that won't un-install and take care of it.
[02:33] <jaminkle> i can't get my linksys wifi adapter to work
[02:33] <lucifiel> ljl: Phew... :)  now i'm going to try and install Fuse, so I can get ntfs-3g to work. ;)
[02:33] <jrib> Firefoxman: yes, it should be similar
[02:33] <IdleOne> !feisty | teenbeat2007
[02:33] <ubotu> teenbeat2007: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:33] <dblomber> so, anyone install as a duel boot on a pgp full disk encrypted hard drive?
[02:33] <KalleDK> Ljl I know I've tried it.. and its just to messy atm to use ;) But the best way to share files documents music etc between the virtual and the primar is that Samba or is there a better solution (No Fat32 is not an option :P)
[02:34] <teenbeat2007> is the beta herd 5 usefull on this moment
[02:34] <jaminkle> do i need to install the Ndiswrapper to install pci linksys wifi adapters>
[02:34] <jrib> teenbeat2007: use #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[02:34] <teenbeat2007> ok thanx
[02:35] <alextj> dblomber, I don't know what the hell happened, filter didn't seem to actually do anything, but I was able to uninstall and reinstall Firestarter now!
[02:35] <alextj> dblomber thanks for your help!
[02:36] <dblomber> alextj, no problem
[02:36] <alextj> crazy, i tried many times today and thing didnt work
[02:37] <rNIUS> hi all!
[02:37] <NorthernLights> Hi rNIUS
[02:37] <dblomber> ok, looks like no one hear has installed ubuntu on a pgp encrypted drive, i'm going to check elsewhere.
[02:40] <n33o> how do i install programs in ubuntu
[02:41] <Charl> ?
[02:41] <m_tadeu> Charl: try running synaptic
[02:41] <jaminkle> in network settings it says i have 2 wifi cards
[02:41] <jaminkle> thats bad
[02:41] <apokryphos> Charl: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.
[02:41] <Schalke1> what version of gnome does feisty have?
[02:41] <Charl> what is synaptic?
[02:41] <apokryphos> Schalke1: /msg ubotu packages
[02:41] <jrib> !software > Charl    (Charl, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:42] <m_tadeu> is an openopffice expert around here?
[02:43] <TeReL50> what was the command to check distro version ?
[02:43] <nanoc> hi everybody
[02:44] <apokryphos> TeReL50: /msg ubotu version
[02:44] <Schalke1> apokryphos: 2.18 yay!
[02:44] <busfahrer> Excuse me, how do I get the Updater in the system tray back? I somehow managed to lose it :-)
[02:44] <TeReL50> apokryphos:  tnx
[02:44] <lenger> jullie zijn zeker niet van psp media h
[02:45] <roshan_s> StoneNewt: In /etc/environment
[02:45] <jrib> busfahrer: it should show up in the "notification area" but only when updates are available.  Make sure "notification area" is in your panel
[02:45] <lenger> moparscape sucks
[02:45] <lucifiel> ljl: btw, you mentioned that to add a package, you need to enable official, restricted, multiple and universe, right?
[02:45] <christi> can I boot Ubuntu from a usb flash disk?
[02:46] <NorthernLights> christi, you can
[02:46] <christi> NorthernLights: how?
[02:46] <Charl> I need to install an ftp program
[02:46] <LjL> lucifiel: that's main, restricted, universe and multiverse :P anyway you only have to enable universe and multiverse, since the other two are enabled by default. but now you've got all them enabled at any rate, you shouldn't have to enable them again
[02:46] <Charl> How do i do that with synaptic>?
[02:47] <LjL> lucifiel: make sure you also have Security and Updates checked for all of them (and make sure you do *NOT* have Proposed Updates checked)
[02:47] <NorthernLights> christi, unfortunately i don't have the details in mind. did a google search like "booting ubuntu from USB key site:ubuntu.com" gave something ?
[02:47] <lucifiel> ljl: ahhh okay however, i still can't add in fuse 6.4 tar.gz with Synpatic. :(
[02:47] <christi> NorthernLights: I've tried http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1062799&postcount=100, buyt without any luck
[02:47] <NorthernLights> LjL, why disabling proposed updates seem so important ?
[02:47] <LjL> lucifiel, hm? a .tar.gz file is not a package. packages are only the ones you find in Synaptic, or by using apt-cache search in the terminal
[02:47] <busfahrer> jrib: is the notification area three gray dots when there is no notification?
[02:48] <LjL> NorthernLights: because the reason that they're called "Proposed" is that they weren't tested yet. they'll likely break your system at one point or another.
[02:48] <lucifiel> ljl : oh! lol ahahaha... i guess i learnt something new again. ;)
[02:48] <linuxnooblah> what should i use to dl mp3s?
[02:48] <NorthernLights> LjL, i'll keep that in mind, thanks
[02:48] <ulisse> |muelli|: fixed the cups issue, it was definitely that loopback issue. I think I can have removed the interface accidentally while dealing with network configuration and NM... :P
[02:48] <LjL> lucifiel: a .tar.gz is merely an archive (much like a ZIP file, just different format) - how to "install" whatever is contained in it, depends on what is contained in it
[02:49] <LjL> lucifiel: anyway, FUSE *is* available as a proper package (not sure which version), and you should always attempt to use proper packages anytime you can
[02:49] <LjL> lucifiel: installing things in other ways is just likely to lead to trouble
[02:49] <lucifiel> ljl: yeah... man, that means running "make", "install", etc. lol
[02:49] <ulisse> |muelli|: I would never had guessed it without your tips, thanks ;)
[02:49] <jrib> busfahrer: hmm, I've never seen it empty.  It has a small bar on the left so that you can drag it and gets things like network manager's icon and rhythmbox's icon.  If you right click on the drag bar and go to "about", it should confirm it is the notification area
[02:49] <christi> NorthernLights, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent seems to have what I want; thanks
[02:49] <lucifiel> ljl: well, the proper package seems to only be at ver 2.4.2 while ntfs-3g requires 2.6.0
[02:49] <LjL> lucifiel: sometimes. well, often. (that is, compiling). but the mere fact that you have a .tar.gz file doesn't imply there's source code in it... it could be a precompiled program, or anything
[02:50] <LjL> !ntfs-3g
[02:50] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:50] <NorthernLights> christi, no problem, i did nothing :D
[02:50] <LjL> lucifiel: well, i don't know about it really, i try to avoid that sort of things. be careful
[02:51] <lucifiel> ljl: oh okay...
[02:51] <coffeegrindah> how can I reset my X configuration to allow for one or two more resolutions than what are available to me currently?
[02:51] <LjL> lucifiel: anyway, that howto give you some (unofficial, of course) repositories to add with actual packages for fuse and ntfs-3g
[02:51] <Charl> which ftp client must i install?
[02:51] <LjL> lucifiel: unofficial, so i cannot guarantee anything still, but it's probably still easier than compiling a tarball
[02:51] <lucifiel> ljl: okay thank you, so much. ;)
[02:51] <NorthernLights> Charl, did you give gftp a shot ?
[02:52] <Charl> yes
[02:52] <NorthernLights> not good ?
[02:52] <Charl> is there a better one?
[02:52] <nanoc> hi, is there a way around to ubuntu installer? It's not showing my partitions but the whole drive empty and I want to keep some of those partitions. I've searched the web for answers and it seems this problems keeps arising, is there a solution?
[02:52] <fufy> People i installed wine all fine but .exe files dont install :(
[02:52] <NorthernLights> personally i like this one
[02:52] <czajkoz>  my kubuntu when i restart komputer it newer restarts and i have to reset it manually it is from the begining
[02:52] <Charl> ok.cool
[02:53] <fufy> Wine 0.9.9
[02:53] <fufy> Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]    Run the specified program
[02:53] <fufy>        wine --help                   Display this help and exit
[02:53] <fufy>        wine --version                Output version information and exit
[02:53] <UberPsyX> hi guys, had edgy, wifi drivers installed after much hassle, after re-installing ubuntu (for reasons i wont go in to) the drivers stopped working
[02:53] <NorthernLights> !man wine
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about man wine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <woodrag> white trying to install wifi on my just installed Feisty laptop i get:bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[02:53] <LjL> fufy:  wine programname.exe , and use the pastebin to paste please
[02:53] <gergr> hi
[02:54] <NorthernLights> Hi gergr
[02:54] <fufy> LjL,  sorry ok !
[02:54] <svistx> #wejherowo
[02:54] <coffeegrindah> dumb question but what the next highest resolution up from 1024x768, I'm having a brain fart here..
[02:54] <gergr> I've installed sensors-applet, a gnome applet for lm-sensors, but I can't find the applet to add it to the panel...how can I add it?