[05:01] <karthik> Hi I've created a HTML5 tabbed UI project in Ubuntu SDK. It is getting created but i'm unable to run it as I get the following error
[05:01] <karthik> Starting ubuntu-html5-app-launcher --www=/home/karthik/Ubuntu-sdk/example Failed to start program. Path or permissions wrong? ubuntu-html5-app-launcher exited with code -1


[16:48] <elopio> ping barry: do you know how to call the python3 pep8 binary?
[17:15] <barry> elopio: good question! doesn't look like python3-pep8 has a /usr/bin script
[17:23] <elopio> barry: I'm calling it like this: python3 -m pep8 .
[17:23] <elopio> but I'm not sure if I can use that in a debian/rules file
[18:02] <barry> elopio: that's probably fine!
[18:02] <elopio> awesome. barry: are you a motu?
[18:03] <barry> elopio: i'm a core dev :)
[18:15] <elopio> barry: in order to get a package to the archive the wiki says I need the approval from two motus, but I guess two core devs are just as good.
[18:15] <elopio> barry: could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/motu/+merge/229905 when you have some time?
[18:19] <barry> elopio: i'll put it in a tab :)
[18:20] <elopio> thanks. No need to hurry as the other reviewer won't be back until tomorrow.


[01:05] <zillah> hey all
[01:22] <krakrjak> hey what's up?
[01:31] <zillah> trying to fix my ubuntu server lol
[01:34] <zillah> i'm having issues with iptables and can't figure out what i'm doing wrong
[02:18] <krakrjak> pastebin it up
[02:18] <krakrjak> sorry got distracted by iscsi again.
[02:22] <zillah> i'm not sure what to paste
[02:26] <zillah> i think i may have it if i can figure out how to paste into vi on ubuntu from putty on windows that i'm logged into from a Mac
[02:27] <zillah> haha, i got it
[02:30] <zillah> well, i was able to paste...i still haven't fixed my problem...i can't ssh into the server from outside the network
[02:30] <zillah> i added:
[02:30] <zillah> /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[02:30] <zillah> to /etc/rc.local
[02:30] <zillah> and ran both from a shell, but i still get a time-out when i try to connect
[02:39] <krakrjak> what's the other one?
[02:39] <krakrjak> I see the harmless rule.
[02:41] <krakrjak> you've stumped me.  have any console access?
[02:43] <krakrjak> ok...  so can you see port 22 filtered on the host using nmap -P0 -p 22 <host>?
[02:43] <zillah> i can get in by using terminal services to a Windows server then putty from there
[02:44] <krakrjak> right, but from outside the network can you see the host at all?
[02:44] <krakrjak> just no ssh after using -A INPUT?
[02:44] <krakrjak> you might want the rule higher in the list.
[02:44] <zillah> yeah i'm not sure what nmap says though...i don't have any boxes with it here
[02:45] <zillah> i think i can put it on the mac real quick
[02:45] <krakrjak> ok so check the iptables -L INPUT and see if there's a block all before the specific ACCEPT
[02:47] <zillah> ok
[02:47] <zillah> here is my /etc/rc.local
[02:47] <zillah> http://pastebin.com/kH9X9a3X
[02:47] <zillah> all of the port forwards work
[02:50] <zillah> yeah, they are at the bottom
[02:50] <krakrjak> hrm..  I think the OUTPUT rule is bad.  I think I'd just set -P OUTPUT ACCEPT at the top.
[02:50] <krakrjak> I don't know why this isn't working though...  seems like it should.
[02:52] <zillah> ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:ssh
[02:52] <zillah> oops, didn't mean to paste that
[02:52] <krakrjak> http://pastebin.com/QBTXpbCN
[02:53] <zillah> http://pastebin.com/4cu1A3MN
[02:53] <krakrjak> Yeah that looks good.
[02:53] <zillah> there is the INPUT chain
[02:53] <krakrjak> ok let's see here.
[02:55] <krakrjak> OUTPUT have any hints...  I think 23 should be higher.  I don't think anything makes it past #14
[02:57] <zillah> http://pastebin.com/1GgCYe2b
[02:58] <krakrjak> #17 and #18 are not needed.
[02:58] <krakrjak> What is managing your firewall besides rc.local?
[02:59] <krakrjak> There's a lot of rules in there for the small bit of iptables in the rc.local.  Like the DROP policy on INPUT for example.
[02:59] <zillah> that's what i was wondering
[02:59] <krakrjak> ufs?
[02:59] <krakrjak> ufw?
[02:59] <zillah> maybe these don't need to go in rc.local
[03:00] <krakrjak> I think you can leave the forwards there if you want :)
[03:00] <zillah> root@ubuntu:/home/mitchell# service ufw status
[03:00] <krakrjak> just need to find the other program fiddling with the firewall.
[03:01] <krakrjak> 11.04?
[03:03] <zillah> no older...i can't remember what to cat to find it
[03:03] <krakrjak> hrm...  what's in /etc/init.d
[03:04] <krakrjak> any of those sound like firewall programs?
[03:05] <zillah> not any that i recognize
[03:06] <zillah> ufw is in there but says it isn't running
[03:06] <zillah> oh...firestarter is in there
[03:06] <krakrjak> hrm...  that sounds likely
[03:06] <zillah> it's running
[03:07] <zillah> isn't firestarter a GUI tool?
[03:07] <krakrjak> yeah, but I guess you can use it from the command line...
[03:08] <krakrjak> it can be used as a daemon and just managed as files from the ubuntu page I found.
[03:09] <krakrjak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firestarter
[03:09] <krakrjak> You can try just turning it off invoke-rc.d firestarter stop and see what the new rules look like then run your rc.local again.
[03:09] <krakrjak> if you're fixed just uninstall firestarter
[03:10] <zillah> i'm gonna try it
[03:11] <zillah> yay!!!!
[03:11] <zillah> it works!
[03:13] <zillah> that is soooo much better
[03:15] <zillah> haha, now my eggdrop is open to the outside, not sure i like that
[03:15] <zillah> but now I now how to fix it  :)
[03:16] <zillah> thanks for the help
[03:24] <krakrjak> anytime
[03:36] <zillah> lol now i can't get irssi to compile on it or install via apt
[03:36] <krakrjak> ack!
[03:36] <zillah> i need to upgrade this box, but when i do it breaks vmware
[03:38] <zillah> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.04"
[03:38] <zillah> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.04"
[03:46] <krakrjak> dang, going way back in Ubuntu terms.
[03:46] <krakrjak> it's only one Debian back though :)
[03:46] <zillah> lol this box is just a little over two years old
[03:47] <krakrjak> this box is much older, but the OS is newer.
[03:49] <zillah> i've resisted upgrade/reinstall because of vmware...i have a free license for vmware infrastructure and it seems like you can't get that anymore
[03:49] <zillah> and if i re-install vmware it will have to reactivate the license or whatever
[03:50] <zillah> and the virtual machine on it is my PDC for my Windows domain
[03:59] <zillah> hey TommyT
[03:59] <TommyT> howdy
[03:59] <zillah> how are you tonight?>
[04:00] <TommyT> doing OK... trying to do six things at once, though. I forgot I had irc open on this netbook
[04:00] <zillah> lol i know how that goes
[04:01] <TommyT> were you in on the Google+ meeting last night?
[04:01] <zillah> yeah, i'm Mitchell
[04:02] <TommyT> Ah... I don't know everyone. Maybe I will learn names better if I use the Google+ thing
[04:02] <TommyT> I did get my sound going
[04:02] <zillah> what did you have to do?
[04:02] <TommyT> The workaround for this model on 11.04 is run pavucontrol then run the LEFT mic volume to zero
[04:03] <TommyT> I don't know why
[04:03] <TommyT> This is an Acer Aspire D260
[04:03] <TommyT> Wal-mart special
[04:03] <zillah> heh, well at least it works
[04:03] <TommyT> The stock control re-locks the volume controls together
[04:04] <TommyT> If I was smart enough to understand what was going on there's probably a config file to fix it for good
[04:05] <zillah> oh, you have to change it after every re-boot?
[04:07] <TommyT> the place I read it says it pops back easily, but so far it has persisted
[04:08] <TommyT> I think various applications mess with it and make it stop working
[04:08] <TommyT> Skype is one that was mentioned
[04:09] <TommyT> I'm getting the "time for bed" message from the other room...
[04:09] <zillah> ah
[04:09] <zillah> lol
[04:09] <TommyT> I'll try to have proper hardware for the next Google+ thing
[04:09] <zillah> i'm hoping to be on linux instead of mac next time
[04:10] <TommyT> whatever works... I may have to move to the Mac if I can't get things working otherwise. This netbook is ALMOST too underpowered
[04:10] <TommyT> We have a Mac Mini that can probably handle it though
[04:10] <TommyT> But we don't keep a camera on it
[04:10] <zillah> I miss my Mini, i sold it when i got my macbook pro
[04:11] <zillah> i got an iSight but the audio wouldn't work on Snow Leopard, but it would on older MacOS
[04:12] <TommyT> THat's weird. Is it the old old firewire iSight?
[04:12] <TommyT> I have a generic Logitech that works fine
[04:13] <zillah> yeah, it was the old old firewire i think
[04:13] <TommyT> if it says Plug & Play in Windows XP, it will generally work on linux, and many Mac apps work fine with them too.
[04:13] <zillah> yeah, i had a logitech working using Macam
[04:14] <zillah> framerate was horrible though
[04:14] <TommyT> I don't do video much... but the Google+ was impressive especially for a "free" service
[04:15] <TommyT> I was shopping around for a conference service awhile back and that did fine
[04:15] <zillah> yeah, same here.  I've  played with FaceTime a little, but hasn't been that useful yet
[04:15] <zillah> i was impressed with Google+
[04:15] <TommyT> So as the article they linked to said, I think for Google+ the hangouts (is that what it's called?) will be the killer app
[04:15] <TommyT> I haven't done the circle stuff much yet
[04:16] <zillah> yeah
[04:16] <zillah> you mean as far as making new circles, or just putting people into them?
[04:16] <TommyT> putting people in...somewhere here I had an article with the 15 people you should follow with Google+ so I added some "celebrity" stuff
[04:16] <TommyT> BUT
[04:17] <TommyT> the article listed Newt Gingrich as someone worth following... but he got called out for having like 80+% fake followers on twitter
[04:18] <zillah> lol
[04:18] <TommyT> I have used FaceBook for awhile but so far few people I have known for a long time are on Google+
[04:18] <TommyT> It wouldn't even let ME in until Tony sent me the invite
[04:18] <TommyT> and _I_ thought Google loved me
[04:18] <TommyT> they even sent me a shirt
[04:19] <zillah> LOL
[04:19] <TommyT> (I was a paid Blogger user and they sent a nice shirt to people when they made it free)
[04:19] <TommyT> but what have I done for them lately?
[04:19] <zillah> i'm not sure how i got signed up
[04:20] <zillah> i think i just logged into gmail one day and it was there
[04:20] <TommyT> That's what _I_ expected to happen... that's how lots of stuff has been with them for me
[04:20] <TommyT> sites, voice, etc.
[04:20] <TommyT> I have the phone number, several sites, even domains they manage
[04:21] <TommyT> host, I mean
[04:21] <TommyT> But I guess I'm not social enough or something
[04:21] <zillah> everything i have i had somewhere else before google bought it
[04:21] <zillah> like grandcentral and picasa
[04:21] <zillah> lol
[04:22] <TommyT> OH and I have an Android phone. Surely that counts for something. Yeah I had GrandCentral.
[04:22] <zillah> i'm thinking about switching to Android
[04:22] <TommyT> I used Flickr instead of Picasa, though
[04:22] <TommyT> Android has been OK but it has amazingly rough edges
[04:23] <TommyT> I have a Verizon Motorola Droid2, and the stuff you have to do to make it acceptable is a pain
[04:23] <zillah> i have a chinese tablet running 2.2
[04:23] <zillah> it's ok for what it is, but i can only use the amazon market
[04:24] <TommyT> That's odd... I tried the Amazon market and it didn't manage the apps as well as the Android one
[04:24] <TommyT> But maybe I didn't give it a chance
[04:25] <TommyT> I noticed everything I wanted was in both places and sometimes cheaper (free) on Android
[04:25] <zillah> yeah thats what i've heard
[04:26] <TommyT> well maybe that is the signal to go to bed. the trackpad just put me into Facebook chat
[04:26] <TommyT> and I sent a message to an old friend of mine who is offline
[04:27] <TommyT> so I told her "oops"
[04:27] <zillah> lol
[04:27] <zillah> take care man
[04:27] <zillah> ttyl
[04:27] <TommyT> bye
[04:46] <zillah> yay, i finally got irsii compiled


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[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
[07:53] <MooDoo> morning
[08:00] <dholbach> hi MooDoo
[08:01] <MooDoo> :)


[00:00] <The_LoudSpeaker> shouldn't we just keep it lubuntu there?
[00:00] <The_LoudSpeaker> It's going to be there for next relases also
[00:00] <The_LoudSpeaker> *releases
[00:00] <The_LoudSpeaker> "Lubuntu" I mean
[00:00] <wxl> we can change it each version or not
[00:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> why keep that work of changing?  if we are not changing it then what's the use? one can see from changelog that it was infact introduced in 20.04.
[00:02] <wxl> for the same reason we discussed having version-specific wallpapers or version-specific plymouth splashes
[00:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> ah!
[00:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> keeping it then
[00:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> updated
 Sorry. I entered late in this screensaver talk. My question is. Why an screensaver? Purpose? Lock the screen? There are lighter tools: … - i3lock  … - i3lock-fancy … - slock (suckless, it's damn small)
 @glpzzz those are good options but less secure.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@glpzzz those are good options but less secure.], Can you explain me more on this?
 https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html
 This kinda nicely explains why xscreensaver is most secure one.
 Thanks!
 Also, I just checked i3lock-fancy on github. It has it's share of issues there. Monitor one, blur issues, etc.
 Xscreensaver is far more better and with flurry - water as preset + dialogue box that wxl designed, it just looks awesome.
 We just need to fix that new login button, it currently doesn't take you anywhere. It should take us to a page which allows to log into another user.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, I just checked i3lock-fancy on github. It has it's share of issues there. …], This is a fancy fork on the first. But the last from suckless.org people, is so simple that is hard to have a bug on it.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Xscreensaver is far more better and with flurry - water as preset + dialogue box …], I have not seen this yet
 Checkout phab.lubuntu.me/D58
 Also, yup! Now reading on the last screensaver you mentioned.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, yup!  I personally use the original: https://tools.suckless.org/slock/
 Yup! That one is for too much paranoid users. I would like to have access to tty even on lock screen.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, yup! Now reading on the last screensaver you mentioned.], Bad thing. It just displays a color on input and another on error. No images
 Also, from what I see, it runs as a part of X server that's why it has that protection of shutting down if someone tries to kill X. But xscreensaver runs separate from X server.
 Now shutting down was a good choice. But what if the user has automatic login enabled? On next boot, this is exploitable
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, from what I see, it runs as a part of X server that's why it has that prot …], Interesting.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Now shutting down was a good choice. But what if the user has automatic login en …], And how does others protect from this. I think is not a part of locker responsability
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, from what I see, it runs as a part of X server that's why it has that prot …], Also, it has that protection for X server, or X11 but what if the op has Wayland?
 @glpzzz [And how does others protect from this. I think is not a part of locker responsab …], Yup! Even in xscreensaver you can't save if system shuts down on lock screen. And user has auto login enabled. But atleast it doesn't purposefully shut down the system.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, it has that protection for X server, or X11 but what if the op has Wayland …], 👍👍 … They don't consider wayland as some other things. Have you read their philosophy?
 @glpzzz [👍👍 … They don't consider wayland as some other things. Have you read their philo …], Umm no I haven't. Enlighten me.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Yup! Even in xscreensaver you can't save if system shuts down on lock screen. An …], Well. That's the paranoid fork 😂😂😂
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Umm no I haven't. Enlighten me.], https://suckless.org/
 @glpzzz [Well. That's the paranoid fork 😂😂😂], A bit too much paranoid I should say.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Umm no I haven't. Enlighten me.], I love some of their software, but they are kind of radical 😂 … I'm currently using dwm (wm), st (terminal emulator), slock (locker), surf (web browser for certain things), dmenu (launcher and more)
 Noice.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [A bit too much paranoid I should say.], He tells in the title. You cant blame him later
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Noice.], ?
 @glpzzz [?], I mean nice.
 @glpzzz [He tells in the title. You cant blame him later], Yeah yeah not blaming him. Blaming the paranoid users who use that. His target audience.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [I mean nice.], Ha, sometimes I get lost with English
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Yeah yeah not blaming him. Blaming the paranoid users who use that. His target a …], Yep. I think is more a joke.
 @glpzzz [Ha, sometimes I get lost with English], I actually picked it from TV show named "Brooklyn 99"
 @The_LoudSpeaker [I actually picked it from TV show named "Brooklyn 99"], 👍👍
 So pro just messaged me, about this: … https://github.com/google/xsecurelock
 from the readme page, looks kinda a fork of xscreensaver with various libraries.
 xscreensaver is actually one of the requirements.
 gotta read its cpp manual now.
 but do we want this? I see a big warning in its name: "Google"
 @The_LoudSpeaker [but do we want this? I see a big warning in its name: "Google"], Agree!!!!
 looks like its used by arch users mostly.
 pro is the one who actually introduced me to arch and its capablities.
 pro= A senior named "Nischay Pro"
 he's earned that title _/\_
 A big con in it, have to call it manually to lock screen. sometimes auto locking after a set timeout fails.
 Interesting. I have been tempted to try arch but I'm very comfortable with Ubuntu. Just trying to make it slimmer
 I would be on arch if it wasn't for the ease of setting up dev env on debian base.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [A big con in it, have to call it manually to lock screen. sometimes auto locking …], workaround is to set it up with systemd lock. too much wok. I am just gonna dig through sddm's source code for the switch user command/utility. easier.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [I would be on arch if it wasn't for the ease of setting up dev env on debian bas …], Yep. I have an already prepared sudo apt install ..... For the next fresh install
 @glpzzz [Yep. I have prepared a file with my sudo apt install ..... For the next fresh in …], @teward001 is working on a script that eases setting up the dev env according to our packaging guide.
 I need to create a script for my usage tho. need synapse and plank and sublime and some other small tweaks in every distro that I use. can't survive without them.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@teward001 is working on a script that eases setting up the dev env according to …], Nice! Good to know. In lxqt wiki, to build on  Debian, there are 2 missing dependencies. At least for 19.04
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packaging-guide/
 ^ this doesn't give me any missing dependancy errors on any version of ubuntu or flavours since 18.04
 not tried in debian tho.
 missing dependencies remind me, @UniversalSuperBox please fix unity8
 XD
 @The_LoudSpeaker [https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packaging-guide/], * https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packaging-requirements/
 oops! I sent wrong link earlier
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 wxl: ping, I want to kick around an idea when you're around
 Doesn't have to be just me and you but you're the only one currently on the team who has been in my position at one point :)
 I have 2 questions - … I have Lubuntu 18.04 iso with lxde, would 19.10 with Lxqt be better for developing it? … My display has a resolution such that normal dpi is quite small and hidpi is huge.Would it be possible by any tweak to set a custom dpi/fontdpi?
 @Rutvikm [I have 2 questions - … I have Lubuntu 18.04 iso with lxde, would 19.10 with Lxqt b …], The second question's motive is that if the answer is yes, I can use Lubuntu as a proper distro and simultaneously contribute
 If not then I'd have to use it only for contribution purposes along with some other daily driver distro
 @Rutvikm I don't have an answer for the display in 1, try live and, for developing is better lxqt because you will have the latest libraries. for 2, I do that, and you could use containers and virtual machines if don't want to mix environment
 myself have machine with 19.10 and container or virtual machine with 20.04
 @HMollerCl [@Rutvikm I don't have an answer for the display in 1, try live and, for developi …], 👍🏻👍🏻
 @HMollerCl [myself have machine with 19.10 and container or virtual machine with 20.04], Oh
 We aren't focusing on 18.04 anymore
 It's reached a stage where only critical/high prio bugs are fixed
 If you want to contribute, install the development release, otherwise try 19.10
 @tsimonq2 [If you want to contribute, install the development release, otherwise try 19.10], Ok
 I have no Linux development experience untill now, and am a beginner in programming, but this group makes me think that I should contribute.. Probably next year😁
 @Rutvikm [I have no Linux development experience untill now, and am a beginner in programm …], You should contribute now :)
 We'll be happy to teach you what you need to know
 @tsimonq2 [You should contribute now :)], I'd work on wxl's yesterday's suggestion and would try as I get time👍🏻
 @tsimonq2 [We'll be happy to teach you what you need to know], Noice
[17:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rART5c0b9859f384: Replace wall.png with a symbolic link to the default wallpaper.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rART5c0b9859f384
 replace Simon with a symbolic link.  Um, I mean, what?  :)
[17:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T123: 20.04 Artwork] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T123#2685
[17:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T123: 20.04 Artwork] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T123#2687
[17:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T123: 20.04 Artwork] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T123#2689
[17:56] <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl: Regarding your comment to T123, do you think it's worth it to investigate having the manual as a menu icon or a desktop icon?
[17:57] <tsimonq2> So, below "About LXQt"
[17:57] <tsimonq2> That would be a nice task for a developer. I could certainly see the use for distro-customizable menu entries.
[17:57] <tsimonq2> As with the SDDM thing, I can do it, but I'd prefer to have some fresh blood on it. :)
[17:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMETA67ce1db326b3: add lubuntu-update-notifier to seed, add dch -r to update script] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMETA67ce1db326b3
[18:01] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/20.04.1 :)
[18:02] <tsimonq2> Off I go for now.
[18:02] <tsimonq2> Keep up the great work everyone.
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl: Regarding your comment to T123, do you think it's worth i …], maybe an "about lubuntu" menu icon next to "about lxqt"?
 an "about lubuntu" entry in the menu would be easy to do as an entry project, most can be done with qt designer.
 @HMollerCl [an "about lubuntu" entry in the menu would be easy to do as an entry project, mo …], 😂
 @HMollerCl [an "about lubuntu" entry in the menu would be easy to do as an entry project, mo …], we could add a tab with lshw maybe.
 (since we don't have hwinfo)
[19:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T17: Write a Welcome Center] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T17#2690
 I don't know about the New login button is it completely broken?
 Is the button fixable?
 Not sure what you mean
 need steps to reproduce :P
 +1 on the lshw for about lubuntu
 There are some lxqt apps (I don't know if this is right here) that are not consistent in the baout dialog also. Instead of the pretty one, is the simple with the original author only
 And OLD date
[20:45] <tsimonq2> Wait, is standup in 15 minutes?
[20:45] <tsimonq2> Hmm.
 lets reschedule it for tomorrow... *yawns*
 :P
[20:46] <tsimonq2> :P
[20:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9a8ff90e56c7: Add summary of first tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9a8ff90e56c7
[20:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T128: Alt-Tab and Alt-Shift-Tab feature request (openbox conf)] EinarMostad (Einar Mostad) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T128#2691
[20:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL645cccb4f62f: Summarize Interface tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL645cccb4f62f
[21:00] <tsimonq2> Ignore me if I got DST wrong.
[21:00] <tsimonq2> !standup
[21:01] <tsimonq2> It's either now or in two hours, I can't tell. XD
 you need a time converter :P
[21:01] <tsimonq2> Ah, so it is now.
[21:01] <tsimonq2> o/
[21:01] <lynorian> yes it is now oops forgot my time changed
 https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20191107T210000&p1=179&p2=137&p3=1440
 use accordingly :P
[21:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/
[21:04] <tsimonq2> Anyone else?
 \o
 describe all icons  … add missing obscure Qlipper prefrences for synchronization  … start first tab summary of prefrences as many of these were missing
[21:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5913bf545ef2: Add behavior tab summary] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5913bf545ef2
[21:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> My turn?
[21:26] <tsimonq2> Go for it.
[21:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> here it is.
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> * Tasks
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T119
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> Set Added default theme for xscreensaver.
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D58
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
[21:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Dialogue for Lock screen: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T119
[21:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added default theme for Xscreensaver.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D58
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D59
[21:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added xscreensaver-gl and xscreensaver-gl-extra: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D59
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> Modified dialoguebox to match the theme.
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> * Misc
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> Uploading the Ubuntu Talk photos to drive now.
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> ToDo:
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> Grub theme SRU
[21:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> done.
[21:29] <tsimonq2> Nice! Thanks.
[21:31] <tsimonq2> I'm currently trying to wrap my head around how KPMCore implements ZFS and how I can take an LVM-type approach to implementing it.
[21:31] <tsimonq2> No guarantees on anything.
[21:31] <tsimonq2> However, if I'm successful, we'll have improved ZFS support, which means support in Calamares.
[21:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> whats kpmcore?
[21:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9357d9d58191: Add Ark general tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9357d9d58191
[21:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> noice. zfs seems a good option we should have it.
[21:31] <tsimonq2> The_LoudSpeaker: KPMCore is the library which handles the partitioning backend for both Calamares and KDE Partition Manager.
[21:32] <tsimonq2> I agree.
[21:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> k. noted.
[21:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> I have had not so good experience with kde partition manager tho.
[21:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> 200+ gigs lost in a blink of an eye.
[21:33] <tsimonq2> Aww, jeez.
[21:33] <tsimonq2> When was this?
 ouch
 I have had that when trying to install ghost bsd which was a dumb idea
 I'm back
[21:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> some 2-3 months back. using kubuntu / kde partition manager to move a partition to create space to install kubuntu.
[21:35] <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl: Go for it.
[21:35] <tsimonq2> The_LoudSpeaker: Which version?
[21:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> After that I just went ahead with lubuntu 18.04 install. kubuntu 18.04 was that.
 ok, so I did https://phab.lubuntu.me/D57
[21:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] add lubuntu-update-notifier to seed, add dch -r to update script: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D57
 which was adding lubuntu-update-notifier to seed and updated the meta script
[21:36] <tsimonq2> As of one hour ago, users have that. :)
[21:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> and if it was my system I would have backup. it was my friend's. Lost some good photos from the mountains. ;_;
 o, sorry @The_LoudSpeaker I thought you had finished
[21:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> Lite. actually I am the one who disturbed you. sorry!
[21:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> pleaas econtinue @HMollerCl
[21:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> * please
 ok
 I did the initial commit to repo https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/redshift-qt/ with the new release including my fixes. Not sure how to continue with it
 Don't know if it's compiling or not.
 that's on my end
[21:39] <The_LoudSpeaker> harbourmaster doesn't tell if its compiling?
[21:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4c675a213a88: Rewoerd tab description for Featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4c675a213a88
[21:40]  * guiverc apologizes for missing standup
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> harbourmaster doesn't tell if its compiling?], don't know where to see it
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> Actually I shows up in Diffs if its building or not.
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> Maybe try a commit with arc patch and check build status on the link whic arc build gives you?
[21:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> simillar to this: https://phab.lubuntu.me/B134
[21:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^^ *a commit with arc diff
 I think some configuration of the repo needs to be done
[21:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also we have redshiift as a upstream project and not native? I see only debian folder up there on phab.
[21:45] <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl: What do you mean?
[21:45] <wxl> building would depend on ci config, no?
[21:45] <tsimonq2> The_LoudSpeaker: Yes.
[21:45] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:45] <wxl> also, @HMollerCl, if you need a bike, i know a guy
[21:45] <tsimonq2> XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[21:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
 @wxl [<wxl> also, @HMollerCl, if you need a bike, i know a guy], jejeje
 sharing bikes
 @wxl [<wxl> also, @HMollerCl, if you need a bike, i know a guy], oO
 xDD
[21:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl I meant its not native like lubuntu-default-settings ?
[21:46] <tsimonq2> The_LoudSpeaker: Nope.
[21:46] <genii> If you need a bike, I can lend you my bolt cutters
[21:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> why? @tsimonq2
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl I meant its not native like lubuntu-default-setting …], yes, the code comes from github
[21:46] <tsimonq2> (For those who don't know, wxl works at a bike company.)
[21:46] <tsimonq2> The_LoudSpeaker: It has upstream releases elsewhere.
[21:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl from your github or original one?
 wxl: like this https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2018/may/01/unexpected-beauty-china-bicycle-graveyards-share-bikes-in-pictures
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl from your github or original one?], original one
[21:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> oh! I thought it was from yours. So you forked it, made changes, then PR and then phab repo. right?
 yes
 so, wxl  @tsimonq2 how can I put it into CI?
[21:49] <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl: Is the package ready for me to go through it?
 yes
[21:50] <tsimonq2> I'll do that, and we can go from there.
[21:50] <wxl> all i did was activate the repo so he could push to it
 please, lintian +pedantic
 I mean, I build it here with those flags
 worked ok
[21:50] <tsimonq2> wxl: How many pitchforks do I receive as punishment for trying to compare LVM to ZFS?
[21:51] <tsimonq2> As in, how off would I be to make the comparison that LVM PVs are to LVM VGs as ZFS pools are to ZFS datasets?
[21:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T128: Alt-Tab and Alt-Shift-Tab feature request (openbox conf)] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T128#2692
[21:51] <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl: On it.
[21:51] <wxl> @tsimonq2: to be fair i don't know lvm as well as zfs so can't say
[21:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'm the other way around.  I guess I am an hour off.
 @tsimonq2 lintian says somehing about an ITP code, that's different from a launchpad bug?
[21:52]  * kc2bez hangs head
[21:53] <wxl> @tsimonq2: not great. i don't think i could write something *good* from scratch. i could probably maintain existant code. can certainly read through it if it's not too clever
[21:53] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'm currently banging my head against the wall reading this KPMCore code. I figured out what they do for LVM, but it's going to be, heh, uncharted territory for me, to say the least.
[21:53] <tsimonq2> kc2bez, guiverc: Go for it.
[21:53] <wxl> @HMollerCl Intent To Package.. remember what i linked you from debian?
 aaa, ok
[21:54] <tsimonq2> $ uscan --download-current-version
[21:54] <tsimonq2> uscan: warning:     debian/changelog(l1): version 'unknown' is invalid: version number does not start with digit
[21:54] <tsimonq2> LINE: PACKAGE (unknown) eoan; urgency=medium
[21:54] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[21:54] <tsimonq2> uscan warn: Couldn't chdir PACKAGE, skipping: No such file or directory
[21:54] <tsimonq2> That's your first thing. ;)
[21:54] <wxl> oops XD
[21:54] <kc2bez> Not too much really
[21:54] <kc2bez> plugging away on the keyboard layout switch issue and still messing with Lubuntu on a pi3
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> That's your first thing. ;)], pff, ok, sorry
[21:55] <wxl> yeah that's weird. i didn't even notice that
[21:55] <tsimonq2> I'll assume you're trying to package 0.5.
 0.5-1
[21:55] <tsimonq2> I'll fix it locally so I can continue.
[21:56] <tsimonq2> Okay.
[21:56] <wxl> also s/eoan/focal/
[21:56] <tsimonq2> Well, if we're uploading this to Debian (which we should if it isn't there!), then that's correct.
[21:56] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, 0.5-0ubuntu1
[21:56] <wxl> it should be debian, no?
[21:56] <tsimonq2> Yeah, I agree.
[21:56] <tsimonq2> wxl: Wanna check if there's already an ITP?
[21:56] <wxl> 1s
[21:57] <tsimonq2> /usr/bin/fakeroot: 175: debian/rules: Permission denied
[21:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> 2s, 2p, 3s. 3p...
[21:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[21:57] <tsimonq2> chmod +x debian/rules is all that's needed there.
[21:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> sorry!
[21:58] <tsimonq2> What's up with the patch name? :)
[21:58] <wxl> no redshift nothing
[21:58] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[21:58] <tsimonq2> wxl, @HMollerCl: Who wants to file an ITP?
[21:59] <tsimonq2> wxl: And where's your ITS for that one package?  XD
 wxl's  old @tsimonq2
 Understand
 Hah
[22:02] <wxl> time is relative remember
[22:02] <kc2bez> I subscribe to that thought
[22:02] <wxl> anyways https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1afVtYotDnnPu93UFUSn6SZqJEa-IZbcK is my fav pic from the talk because it puts the star of the show front and center
 @wxl [<wxl> time is relative remember], Agreed. But you still old. :P
[22:04] <wxl> the correct word is "wise," young buck
 ITS???
[22:04] <wxl> ignore that
[22:04] <wxl> you want an ITP
 @wxl [<wxl> the correct word is "wise," young buck], Ok boomer.
 XDDDDD
 Uh oh XD
 And I think you sent the folder's link there and not of a particular picture.
[22:06] <wxl> ugh google sucks
[22:06] <kc2bez> ^
[22:07] <wxl> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14M0K6OAYwZ3I2xC1BrYpYS25bT0m7hsG/view
[22:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rREDSHIFTQT4ca56bd0f861: fixes changelog and chmod +x rules] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rREDSHIFTQT4ca56bd0f861
 @tsimonq2 fixed changelog and rules
 I'll PM you the raw Lintian output and then paste here the ones you should worry about
 @wxl [<wxl> https://drive.google.com/file/d/14M0K6OAYwZ3I2xC1BrYpYS25bT0m7hsG/view], You were the star. I was behind the screen all time.
[22:09] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker naw, you made it happen
[22:10] <kc2bez> The PACKAGE should have a name, no? ^
[22:10] <tsimonq2> I: redshift-qt source: debian-control-has-empty-field field "recommends" in package redshift-qt
[22:10] <tsimonq2> Same with "suggests"
[22:10] <tsimonq2> I: redshift-qt source: out-of-date-standards-version 4.4.0 (released 2019-07-07) (current is 4.4.1)
[22:10] <wxl> yep
 @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker naw, you made it happen], Couldn't have been possible without your support.
[22:10] <wxl> s/PACKAGE/redshift-qt/
[22:10] <tsimonq2> P: redshift-qt source: rules-requires-root-missing <-- never seen that before.
[22:10] <tsimonq2> X: redshift-qt source: debian-watch-does-not-check-gpg-signature <-- if you want to try to fix, go for it.
[22:10] <tsimonq2> I: redshift-qt: desktop-entry-lacks-keywords-entry usr/share/applications/redshift-qt.desktop
[22:11] <tsimonq2> And of course, if you're uploading to Debian, ITP bug.
[22:11] <wxl> have to make the bug first tho XD
[22:11] <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl: Also, if you want an adventure, go find a Debian Developer to keysign with in person.
[22:11] <tsimonq2> https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning
[22:12] <tsimonq2> If you get it signed by one, we can get you upload access to this in Debian.
[22:12] <tsimonq2> wxl: I've already signed your key, so you could totally do that too.
[22:13] <tsimonq2> Vcs-Browser: https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt/commits/master
[22:13] <tsimonq2> Vcs-Git: https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt.git
[22:14] <tsimonq2> These are incorrect; they should be https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/redshift-qt/ and https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/redshift-qt.git
[22:14] <tsimonq2> OOOOOOOOO I totally forgot.
[22:14] <tsimonq2> wxl: ^^^^ all of our packages still have 2222 in Vcs-*
[22:14] <tsimonq2> Beginner task.
[22:15] <tsimonq2> Please upstream the manpage too.
[22:15] <tsimonq2> hmm
[22:15] <tsimonq2> Same with .desktop
[22:16] <tsimonq2>         /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmake redshift-qt.pro
[22:16] <tsimonq2> Seems a little suspect but I'll let it slide.
[22:16] <tsimonq2> I can't see anything else.
[22:17] <tsimonq2> Overall, you did a great job on this. :)
[22:17] <kc2bez> It will be a nice addition!
[22:17] <tsimonq2> Correct those and file the ITP, and I'll happily get it uploaded for you. :)
[22:17] <tsimonq2> +1 kc2bez
[22:19] <tsimonq2> I'm even looking at your upstream work; overall I'm impressed.
[22:21] <tsimonq2> Breaks: redshift-gtk
[22:21] <tsimonq2> Replaces: redshift-gtk
[22:21] <tsimonq2> What's the rationale here?
[22:21] <tsimonq2> I could see Conflicts and/or Breaks, but what's up with Replaces? :)
[22:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5f423cdb833c: Add show volume for input devices] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5f423cdb833c
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> X: redshift-qt source: debian-watch-does-not-check-gpg-signature <-- …], uff, never heard of that
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> I could see Conflicts and/or Breaks, but what's up with Replaces? :)], maybe my understand of replace is different, meaning, why you need both?
[23:10] <tsimonq2> Replaces is intuitively named; it means that this package *literally* replaces an older package.
 aaaa ok
[23:11] <tsimonq2> An example would be a new version of Qt vs LXDE to LXQt. You would use it for the former, not the latter.
 perfectly clear.
[23:14] <tsimonq2> Cool. :)
[23:14] <tsimonq2> If you have any other questions, please do let me know.
[23:27] <wxl> @HMollerCl if you need help with the gpg watch thing.. it's purdy easy
[23:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2019-11/msg00000.html
[23:28] <wxl> wow i didn't know it had a json header
 Knock me over with a feather. Nice.
[23:30] <wxl> the fact argon2 is not implemented is not necessarily a problem, me thinks
[23:31] <wxl> soooooooooooooooooooooooooo pull the patch into debian XD
 @wxl [<wxl> soooooooooooooooooooooooooo pull the patch into debian XD], Debian. Reeeeeeeeeeeee
[23:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T123: 20.04 Artwork] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T123#2693
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl if you need help with the gpg watch thing.. it's purdy easy], thing.. ?
 @tsimonq2 why is needed that manpages and .desktop upstream?
 *are in


[09:59] <dragan> ok... noone here knows anything 'bout BT?
[10:00] <dragan> !cs
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <claydoh> BT?
[10:00] <cntb> !generic
[10:00] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[10:01] <chupa-chups> helloooooooooooooo
[10:02] <chupa-chups> plz i want any one help meeeeeeeeeeee
[10:02] <chupa-chups> i made a stupid thing
[10:02] <server_> chupa-chups:  o que que pega?
[10:03] <eilker> !lvm
[10:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:03] <claydoh> chupa-chups: just feel free to ask your question, and someone will help if they are able
[10:04] <chupa-chups> i made encryption for a big folder in my disk then i re installed the win xp and i forgot to decrypt the folder
[10:04] <chupa-chups> now i cant read any of content under win or linux
[10:04] <chupa-chups> what shall i do
[10:04] <claydoh> I don't tknow
[10:05] <chupa-chups> ??????????????????????????
[10:06] <claydoh> unless you have the encryption tools, you probably can't
[10:07] <cloakable> chupa-chups: You still have the encryption key?
[10:07] <chupa-chups> no i dont know it
[10:08] <chupa-chups> i made an ordinary encryption from properties of the folder
[10:08] <chupa-chups> :(
[10:08] <cloakable> In which OS?
[10:09] <cloakable> There's no encrypton option in Konqueror that I can see.
[10:10] <chupa-chups> i was under winxp
[10:10] <afm\colossus> well, wrong channel then, i suppose
[10:10] <cloakable> afm\colossus: Indeed.
[10:10] <chupa-chups> ??
[10:10] <chupa-chups> mmmmmmmm
[10:11] <chupa-chups> any one have solution
[10:11] <cloakable> chupa-chups: We can't support WinXP :P
[10:11] <chupa-chups> mmmmmmmmmmmm
[10:11] <chupa-chups> i c
[10:12] <chupa-chups> but i thought i can find any one can help me
[10:12] <BluesKaj> what is Zope ?
[10:12] <cntb> how to tune alt-shift change   of two languages on  keyboard
[10:12] <claydoh> maybe, but there might be better luck in a Windows related channel
[10:12] <angasule> chupa-chups: if it's a windows issue, go to ##windows ?
[10:13] <cloakable> chupa-chups: Or, #windows
[10:13] <chupa-chups> thank u very much
[10:13] <claydoh> !zope
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zope - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <PhinnFort> Zope is a webserver
[10:13] <PhinnFort> thingy
[10:14] <cloakable> chupa-chups: Though, the encryption on XP might suck as badly as everything else on that OS. Try looking for programs to crack the encryption.
[10:14] <PhinnFort> chupa-chups: you're out of luck if you don't have your hash still, i believe
[10:14] <PhinnFort> !glest
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <cloakable> !winxp
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winxp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <chupa-chups> ok i will try any thing else
[10:16] <BluesKaj> !Zope
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Zope - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: http://www.zope.org/
[10:17] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, I already looked ")
[10:17] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: so?
[10:17] <PhinnFort> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=zope+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[10:18] <BluesKaj> it's not what i need , ... i need zope 2.8 for mythtv database I guess
[10:18] <PhinnFort> zope for a mythtv database?
[10:18] <PhinnFort> that sounds very wrong
[10:18] <BluesKaj> that's what the terminal says
[10:19] <BluesKaj> it 's arepos for some of the plugins
[10:20] <No1Viking> Question: In settings in KDE there are alot of possibilities to set things in a default mode. How do I change things to factoryu default, like it was when the machine was newly installed?
[10:20] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: can't find anything on mythtv.org about zope...
[10:20] <PhinnFort> No1Viking: very carefully delete settings from under .kde/
[10:21] <PhinnFort> do not delete .kde, though
[10:21] <blackflag> how can I uninstall software without all the depencies with it?
[10:21] <blackflag> dependencies^
[10:22] <PhinnFort> is ubuntugames.com supposed to be in spanish?
[10:22] <BluesKaj> not gonna delete kde ...I'm a noob but not that nooby
[10:23] <BluesKaj> adept update says to remove it ...something very strange
[10:23] <Raztafari> is there anyone that knows how to fix resolution problem with nvidia and ubuntu/kubuntu? I can only get 800x600 res. I've installed the latest nvidia drivers from the site with the installer
[10:23] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: sure it's just not a meta-package
[10:23] <PhinnFort> or wtf it's called under ubuntu/debian
[10:23] <PhinnFort> !resolution
[10:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:24] <BluesKaj> perhaps
[10:24] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: if it's just one package named "KDE", that's probably it
[10:24] <megapig> Why can't I change the screen resolution to 1280*800?
[10:24] <PhinnFort> megapig: look up
[10:25] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: if it wants to delete kwin, kicker, konqueror et al, then don't do it;)
[10:25] <cntb> !nvidia
[10:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:25] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort,  "K Desktop Environment official modules"
[10:26] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: sorry, i'm not too familiar with debian/(k)ubuntu, just installed it today
[10:26] <dan__> can anyone tell me why firefox keeps crashing with edgy
[10:26] <PhinnFort> dan__: bad karma
[10:27] <dan__> lol
[10:27] <PhinnFort> have you run over old grandmas with your car lately?
[10:27] <dan__> not for a while no
[10:27] <PhinnFort> then try running it without plugins and stuff
[10:27] <kalmah> dan__: 1.5 or 2? 2 seems to crash on me a lot
[10:27] <dan__> 2
[10:27] <PhinnFort> i think it's "--safe-mode"
[10:27] <dan__> it worked alright untill i upgraded to edgy
[10:28] <cntb> how do I see Device PCI ID of nvidia ?
[10:28] <PhinnFort> dan__: tried running it in a konsole?
[10:28] <PhinnFort> cntb: lspci
[10:28] <PhinnFort> sudo lscpi
[10:28] <cntb> lspci says nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[10:28] <dan__> still crashes
[10:28] <dan__> it opens up a page appears then it just closes
[10:29] <PhinnFort> what does it output to the konsole?
[10:29] <dan__> nothing
[10:29] <dan__> it just closes
[10:29] <dan__> its really weird
[10:29] <PhinnFort> dan__: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode
[10:29] <PhinnFort> try it
[10:30] <megapig> I can't change it to Widescreen Resolution
[10:30] <PhinnFort> to sum that up: run "firefox -safe-mode"
[10:30] <dan__> oh wait i'll show you hold on
[10:30] <PhinnFort> megapig: !resolution
[10:30] <megapig> >.>
[10:30] <PhinnFort> !resolution
[10:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:30] <PhinnFort> clicken sie das linken bitte
[10:30] <dan__> ya einen moment bitte
[10:31] <BluesKaj> !de
[10:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:31] <PhinnFort> it was a joke...
[10:31] <dan__> ubotu is sure on top of it today
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is sure on top of it today - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <dan__> lol
[10:31] <PhinnFort> lol
[10:32] <BluesKaj> dan said something in german
[10:32] <dan__> well i can run it in safe mode bu then what
[10:32] <The_Machine> so, for some reason there's a bug with vncserver, where it 'forgets' my password all of the time
[10:32] <PhinnFort> in response to this: [22:30]  <PhinnFort> clicken sie das linken bitte
[10:32] <PhinnFort> The_Machine: safety first;)
[10:32] <The_Machine> lol
[10:32] <PhinnFort> dan__: does it still crash?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> mythtv GUI sucks , can't seem to get it to setup right ...no mouse access
[10:33] <dan__> hold on lemme do it
[10:33] <PhinnFort> if it doesn't crash, it's one of your extensions
[10:33] <dan__> ya it crashed
[10:33] <PhinnFort> hrm
[10:34] <PhinnFort> dan__: well, only one thing left: get Opera;)
[10:34] <PhinnFort> or stick to konqi
[10:34] <dan__> i'll run debug
[10:34] <dan__> if i cant figure it out
[10:34] <dan__> maybe i'll resort to the other two options
[10:34] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:34] <PhinnFort> you won't regret it
[10:35] <ehird> any chance of getting cddbd in the repositories?
[10:36] <scott__> I have not learned how to download a package and install it into linux...can anyone help me?
[10:37] <PhinnFort> scott__: look under "system" on your menu for Adept Manager
[10:37] <scott__> lets say I want to download a package directly from a website?
[10:37] <scott__> how would I do about doing that?
[10:38] <PhinnFort> hold on, trying it meself now;)
[10:38] <PhinnFort> just downloaded the Opera .deb
[10:38] <eilker> konqueror is opening slow, is there a way for making it faster ?
[10:40] <Lynoure> scott__: you download it and then do   sudo dpkg --install pathtothepackagefile
[10:41] <Lynoure> scott__: But please be careful about what you install.
[10:41] <kalmah> Lynoure: What if we install via source?
[10:41] <PhinnFort> Lynoure: isn't there some adept frontend for handlig .deb's?
[10:42] <Lynoure> kalmah: do you a source of packages or from source code?
[10:42] <PhinnFort> eilker: look into http://linuxreviews.org/kde/konqueror/#toc8
[10:42] <Lynoure> PhinnFort: I would not know, I'm not that much a fan of the GUI administration.
[10:42] <lee> hi how can i connect a printer
[10:42] <eilker> PhinnFort: thanx
[10:43] <kalmah> Lynoure: Just the source, anyway to add it to the OFFICAL  list of installs?
[10:43] <PhinnFort> lee: plug it in;)
[10:43] <BluesKaj> lee, system settings /printers
[10:44] <PhinnFort> is it possible to have good old kcontrol back somehow?
[10:44] <Lynoure> kalmah: Source of packages aka repository, sure, add it to /etc/apt/sources.list  but that is not _official_ it's just for that computer
[10:44] <eilker> PhinnFort: hey it is flying now :)
[10:44] <scott__> if I want to download java from their website...how would I then install it into linux?
[10:44] <PhinnFort> eilker: yw;)
[10:45] <claydoh> PhinnFort: kcontrol is still there, you just would need to make a menu entry for it
[10:45] <claydoh> or run it from "Run Command"
[10:45] <PhinnFort> claydoh: i already had one, but kubuntu assimilated it;)
[10:45] <eilker> !mount
[10:45] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:45] <PhinnFort> scott__: right click, open with, and type in "dpkg -i" i think
[10:45] <kalmah> Lynoure: Just for an example, say i wanted to install http://test.org/myapp.tar.gz into the port tree, what would i add to my sources.list?
[10:45] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ??
[10:46] <claydoh> !java
[10:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:46] <Lynoure> kalmah: so, you meant compiling from source code after all.
[10:47] <PhinnFort> tar.gz doesn't necessarily mean source
[10:47] <Lynoure> PhinnFort: no, but good luck compiling anything else
[10:47] <lee> thanks ;
[10:47] <lee> thanks
[10:47] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:47] <eilker> !udev
[10:47] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB
[10:47] <kalmah> I know tar.gz doesn't mean source, that's just an example
[10:47] <musya> what gui is good for webdesingn in linux like dreamweaver in windoews
[10:47] <kalmah> Lynoure: and yeah, compiling from source
[10:48] <PhinnFort> musya: i prefer kate, but there are WYSIWYG editors
[10:48] <PhinnFort> musya: NVU
[10:48] <kalmah> musya: try quantra
[10:48] <PhinnFort> *quanta
[10:48] <eilker> kalmah: quoanta plus
[10:48] <PhinnFort> *quanta plus
[10:48] <eilker> !quanta > kalmah
[10:49] <Lynoure> kalmah: There is no way to get it automatically tracked for updates like .debs, unless of course you make a .deb out of it, put it in an apt repository and add that to sources.list. And that's not worth it for one computer.
[10:49] <eilker> sorry kalmah it was for lynoure :)
[10:49] <kalmah> eilker: np
[10:49] <The_Machine> anyone know how i can easily configure vncserver in KDE?  (Gnome has "Remote Desktop" under system..)
[10:50] <Lynoure> eilker: quanta plus what?
[10:50] <kalmah> Lynoure: Thanks, i was just curious
[10:50] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ??
[10:50] <eilker> !quanta > Lynoure
[10:50] <Lynoure> eilker: h?
[10:50] <PhinnFort> Lynoure: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[10:50] <Lynoure> eilker: why are you quantaing me?
[10:50] <Lynoure> PhinnFort: and same question to you too.
[10:51] <PhinnFort> because eilker is confusing me;)
[10:51] <kalmah> I must say, (k)ubuntu kicks some ass as far as a desktop OS goes, watch out windows =p
[10:51] <PhinnFort> musya: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[10:51] <eilker> oh so sorry  :) i am confused )
[10:52] <PhinnFort> it's contagious
[10:52] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:52] <Lynoure> eilker: heh :)
[10:52] <eilker> midnight here :)
[10:52] <PhinnFort> 22:52 here
[10:52] <eilker> 23:53
[10:52] <musya> ok thank you!
[10:53] <PhinnFort> np
[10:53] <Lynoure> eilker: I already started wondering whether there is a version of quanta plus that makes debs for you as soon as new source version is released, and turns them into an apt repository for you =)
[10:53] <cloakable> :P
[10:54] <ubuntu_> hi! i see my irc client is running, but my keyboard has got a wrong layout...
[10:54] <ubuntu_> can i change this so that y and z is not mixed up
[10:55] <The_Machine> anyone know how i can easily configure vncserver in KDE?  (Gnome has "Remote Desktop" under system..)
[10:55] <eilker> Lynoure: now i wonder it too:) i have read an article for it, but forgot it, but there is sth that what makes it
[10:56] <PhinnFort> The_Machine: alt+f2, type kcontrol, enter, search for remote, click on desktop sharing
[10:56] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:58] <dan__> ok so firefox keeps crashing i need help
[10:59] <dan__> can someone help me with firefox2 please
[11:00] <ryanakca> whats the command to add console input?
[11:04] <The_Machine> thanks PhinnFort!
[11:05] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ??
[11:05] <bLaZeD> if i "share" a printer in windows....will i easily be able to print to it from linux?
[11:06] <bLaZeD> or is there anything special i have to install?
[11:06] <eilker> !cups
[11:06] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:07] <cntb> bLaZeD,  in control panel of XP install printing for UNIX
[11:07] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ??
[11:09] <bLaZeD> cntb, sweet then i should be able to?
[11:10] <kerwonz> hii
[11:11] <kerwonz> i have  a problem, my soundcard doesn't work... :/
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> !sound
[11:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:17] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago:  "options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3"
[11:17] <jbruckman>  sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:22] <ehird> anybody know a way to test cddb servers in linux?
[11:22] <ehird> i.e. a client that supports showing the cd data and submitting with a configurable server
[11:23] <trappist> ehird: only software I ever used cddb with is grip
[11:23] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ?? thegatekeeper ?
[11:23] <ehird> trappist: g.g.g..g....gnome? :)
[11:23] <ehird> *:0
[11:24] <trappist> ehird: I think it's g.g.g.g..graphical :)
[11:24] <ehird> trappist: o-o-o-o-oh
[11:24] <ehird> trappist: s-s-s-s-o it's q-q-q-q-qt based?
[11:24] <trappist> no
[11:24] <themistocles> blueskaj
[11:24] <cox377> does anyone here know of winavi? it's a windowz app for converting all sorts of video media files?
[11:24] <ehird> *gags*
[11:25] <cntb> bbl installing nvidia driver
[11:25] <trappist> ehird: my mistake, it is a gnome app... but who cares, really
[11:25] <cntb> bbl installing nvidia driver
[11:26] <trappist> ehird: try abcde for a console app
[11:27] <cloakable> cox377: On Linux we have ffmpeg and transcode.
[11:27] <trappist> ehird: or kaudiocreator for a kde app
[11:27] <ehird> ffmpeg is probably the best swiss army knife ever that's avoided bloat
[11:27] <cox377> cloakable: do they have a front end?
[11:28] <cox377> cloakable: as it's telling me it's already installed
[11:29] <cloakable> cox377: Not really, but it's really simple.
[11:29] <cox377> cloakable: ok, just g0t the help options up..cheers for that
[11:29] <cloakable> ffmpeg -i <video file in> <video file out>
[11:30] <cox377> cloakable: whats better ffmpeg or transcode?
[11:30] <cloakable> cox377: I find ffmpeg simpler, but trancode is much more powerful.
[11:31] <LjL> Jonty has left this server (""I personally believe that Visual Basic did more for programming than Object-Oriented Languages did." --Linus Torvalds"). <--- isn't Visual Basic object oriented anyway? :P
[11:32] <ubuntu> hi, i want to install kubuntu and have 3 partitions hda1 7gb, hda2 2gb and hda3 66gb. ok,hda2 is linuxswap,but the first and the last, what do they have to be called? /home and /boot?
[11:33] <LjL> ubuntu, err, you want a root ("/") partition too i think =)
[11:33] <LjL> ubuntu: i'd use hda1 as /, and hda3 as /home.
[11:33] <ubuntu> ehm, ..ok
[11:33] <ubuntu> so the first one schould be "/"
[11:34] <ubuntu> ?
[11:34] <cloakable> ubuntu: the way i would do it, is hda1 /, hda2 swap, and hda /home
[11:34] <ubuntu> ah ok, thanks
[11:36] <cox377> cloakable: lol ok, i'm thinking maybe something with a gui
[11:36] <kerwonz> when i connect my audiculares on my computer doesn't works only the internat spekers for the computer, what can i do???
[11:36] <kerwonz> when i connect my headphones on my computer doesn't works only the internat spekers for the computer, what can i do???
[11:37] <scott__> I am trying to install java through kunbuntu...how do I do that?
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> !java > scott__
[11:37] <cloakable> cox377: Hmm. There's probably a frontend for transcode somewhere.
[11:37] <cox377> cloakable: ok, i shall take a look, cheers
[11:38] <cloakable> cox377: gtranscode is in the repos. multiverse.
[11:38] <eilker> LjL: i have hda7 as / , and i dont have /home... i mean /home is in hda7 too, is this strange ?
[11:38] <steve___> Did a fresh install of Kubuntu 6.06 last night now Adept wont let me selet new packages to install whats going on
[11:39] <trappist> cloakable: dvdrip
[11:39] <trappist> !dvdrip
[11:39] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[11:39] <ehird> steve___: hd full?
[11:41] <LjL> eilker: no. many people have everything on a single partition, but many people also prefer having /home on a separate partition, and since he's already got two suitable partitions, it might be a good idea for him
[11:42] <cloakable> trappist: dvdrip is DVDs only, right?
[11:42] <trappist> cloakable: yeah, what were you looking for?
[11:42] <eilker> for now , can i carry my /home to new partition ? or you did it during your first install ?
[11:42] <eilker> LjL:for now , can i carry my /home to new partition ? or you did it during your first install ?
[11:42] <Vladdy> ripping cd's is even easier ;p
[11:42] <cloakable> trappist: A general frontend. I'll use my mythtv box to rip DVDs when I get that running.
[11:43] <LjL> eilker: i didn't do it during install. however doing it "after the fact" is harder
[11:43] <eilker> LjL: in fact, i am gonna mount hda5 to /mnt/extra
[11:43] <steve___> ehird: it cant be full as it was formated before i did a fresh install, sorry if this is a stupid question but just how do u go about checking how full a disk is in kubuntu
[11:43] <LjL> eilker: you'd have to repartition (unless you already have a partition that's good for that), then copy your /home there, then modify /etc/fstab to point to the new home, taking care to never break the system in the process
[11:43] <LjL> if you're not too comfortable with that idea, perhaps it's best to leave it like it is
[11:44] <eilker> LjL: in fact, trying to learnt "mount" and "linux file structure"
[11:45] <Vladdy> evil thing
[11:45] <LjL> eilker: filesystem structure is trivial... everything is seen as a single "disk" called /, and other (real) disks are just mounted on directories that reside somewhere on /
[11:45] <Vladdy> i swear, why can't i just put capitals in packages, without having to modify 2 different scripts :S
[11:47] <LjL> eilker: "mounted" meaning "let's just pretend that the contents of this CD, or whatever, are just a directory inside one big disk"
[11:47] <Vladdy> another script to change it seems..
[11:47] <cox377> cloakable: gtranscode being the front end?
[11:47] <eilker> LjL:but only one partition or hard disk can be mounted directly to / , right ?
[11:47] <LjL> eilker: right, that's called the "root" partition
[11:48] <LjL> eilker: well, actually, you can probably mount multiple partitions on / using unionfs or something, but forget about that right now
[11:48] <cloakable> cox377: Yeah. Doesn't seem to be a good frontend, but eh.
[11:48] <cloakable> Exposes none of the power :(
[11:48] <eilker> LjL:this made me confusing, now understanding :) i always mixed  / and /root , until now
[11:49] <LjL> eilker: basically / serves two functions: it represents the actual contents of an actual partition (the root partition), *and* it serves as a "skeleton" to mount other drives/partitions on
[11:49] <kerwonz> somebody can help me please??
[11:49] <eilker> LjL:/root is not / :)
[11:50] <LjL> eilker: they're unrelated. /root is the home directory of the user "root". (you may ask, why isn't it in /home/root, like for all other users? well, because /home can often be a separate partition, but the "root" user may need to access the system without that partition mounted, for recovery, emergencies, etc... so root's home directory has to reside on the main partition)
[11:50] <Vladdy> it's ok to use capitals in package names, why do scripts think otherwise? O_O
[11:50] <cox377> cloakable: lol i dont actually know what u can convert with it haha, it doesnt seem to have options like what format
[11:50] <LjL> Vladdy: must say i've never seen a package with capitals...
[11:50] <cox377> : )
[11:51] <eilker> LjL: thank you so much, now started to understand...
[11:51] <trappist> Vladdy: yeah I've never seen a package with capitals in debian or ubuntu
[11:51] <Vladdy> because it requires changing in 3 different places
[11:51] <trappist> I remember em from mandrake and redhat, though
[11:51] <easytiger> how do i change the keyboard to a uk keyboard? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg messed it up
[11:51] <Vladdy> . /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl (search for illegal, and change a-Z to a-zA-Z)
[11:51] <Vladdy> and /usr/bin/dpkg-gencontrol (same)
[11:51] <Vladdy> also for kernel since it checks there too :S
[11:52] <eilker> easytiger: u can do it from "system settings" too
[11:52] <Vladdy> now I have a linux-image-2.6.19-rc6-andromeda_2.6.19-rc6-Andromeda-10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[11:52] <Vladdy> WITH capital..
[11:52] <easytiger> where is that? eilker?
[11:53] <kdefreak> why doesn't my console's text habe any color? I have it setup so that it does in .bash(something)... I'm on vt[1-6] ... colored terminal text only works in konsole/xterm
[11:53] <eilker> easytiger:it is in (start-bar)/k-menu
[11:53] <eilker> easytiger:than click on regional settings
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[11:54] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 05 2006, 16:54:26
[11:55] <janfbr> hi
[11:55] <Vladdy> now i should patch initramfs to work with encrypted loop :-/
[11:55] <BluesKaj> @now Toronto
[11:55] <janfbr> I'm trying to get Kaffeine to run at a specific time, but using "at" doesn't seem to work...
[11:55] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Toronto: December 05 2006, 17:56:00
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hehe
[11:56] <janfbr> anyone have any idea on how I can do this?
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> janfbr: check out cron
[11:57] <easytiger> janfbr: cron is the way
[11:57] <Dragen> Ok so here is my question, are the Keyboard shortcuts (like ALT-F2) part of KDE's Window Manager  Kwin?  cuz i circumvented KDE's window manager by using the environment variable KDEWM=/usr/bin/beryl-manager (so beryl starts automatically) but now my ALT-F2 shortcut is broken.  Funny part is, the other keyboard shortcuts WORK though.  I even checked my Keyboard shortcuts, and it's mapped correctly to the RUN command.. so what gives?
[11:58] <janfbr> but I want to only run it once
[11:59] <easytiger> janfbr: then delete the cron job when your done
[11:59] <easytiger> or have the script remove it
[12:00] <fdoving> janfbr: you can use the 'kalarm' utility from kdepim. kmenu -> utilities -> kalarm if it's installed. if not the package name is 'kalarm'.
[12:01] <scott__> I can not find java 5 on kubuntu?
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Dragen: ~/.kde/Autostart is where that should have gone
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> no idea about the other thingc
[12:01] <kerwonz> aahmmmm
[12:02] <janfbr> fdoving: ok, thanks. I will try that
[12:02] <kerwonz> what can i do if kubuntu doesnt work my headphones when i connect it .... but on windows works...
[12:02] <dan__> does any one know what this meens
[12:02] <BluesKaj> well,  the mythtv installation went fine but the setup is "arcane" at best ... lack of mouse access is curiously absent ...the GUI in the setup is system awful
[12:02] <dan__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:02] <dan__>   Major opcode:  144
[12:02] <dan__>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:02] <dan__>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:02] <dan__> Failed to open device
[12:03] <Dragen> Admiral_Chicago: I used to put beryl-manager in the autostart, and i'm glad I don't anymore.. because it would "randomly" work on startup, and sometimes not startup.  after reviewing the '/usr/bin/startkde' script, this is more streamlined and works flawlessly
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Dragen: ah it's always worked for me
[12:03] <claydoh> scott__: look for the package sun-java5-jre
[12:03] <claydoh> sun-java5-plugin
[12:03] <claydoh> in adept
[12:03] <scott__> I looked in adept...but did no see it?
[12:04] <Dragen> Admiral_Chicago: Yea it's weird for some people.  it's nice to know Kwin never ever starts.. I go straight in to my Beryl Window manager, rather than starting up Kwin, killing it with Beryl and so forth.  I also noticed Beryl is more stable doing it this way too
[12:04] <claydoh> you will need to enable multiverse
[12:04] <BluesKaj> anyone using mythtv ? ...the ppl over at the #mythtv room aren't responding
[12:04] <scott__> I will look...
[12:04] <dan__> any help with this X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:04] <dan__> please
[12:04] <Admiral_Chicago> beryl is fickle
[12:05] <claydoh> scott__: i grab a link for you
[12:05] <mango12> Hello
[12:05] <scott__> ok...thanks
[12:05] <claydoh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:05] <mango12> ive a little problem, i cant install any package with apt-get install
[12:06] <a8s0lut0> hey all i am new to ubuntu / linux altogther, but i get to the install screen of either ubuntu OR Kubuntu and itjust hangs, anyone know how to resolve that?
[12:06] <mango12> it found 0 packages... whatever i search
[12:06] <mango12> the installation is new
[12:06] <BluesKaj> !acidrip
[12:07] <ubotu> acidrip: ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.14-0.2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 54 kB, installed size 288 kB
[12:07] <claydoh> scott__: and once thats done, :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:07] <claydoh> for multimedia bits
[12:07] <poningru> mango12: sudo apt-get update
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[12:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 05 2006, 17:07:45
[12:07] <poningru> mango12: then do apt-cache search packagename
[12:07] <mango12> i done.. but the same error
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i have a minute or two
[12:08] <mango12> Cant find Package gcc oO
[12:08] <cntb> how to check nvidia 3d install ? like dxdiag in ms windows  ?
[12:09] <mango12> noone else has an idea?
[12:10] <claydoh> mango12: install the package build-essential
[12:10] <claydoh> it will install gcc and needed tools to get you started
[12:11] <mango12> dont find the package ^^
[12:12] <claydoh> cntb: the command 'glxinfo' I think
[12:13] <mango12> it found no packages
[12:13] <scott__> is there a good dvd player in the multiverse?
[12:13] <Otis> hi all, will kde 3.5.5 work on Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:13] <wizard> 6.10 ships with 3.5.5


[04:30] <newz2000> Hi, I'm giving Natty a try since I had to replace the boot drive in my box… I've got the PVR-150 for my tuner but it's not being listed as an option for a video input
[04:31] <newz2000> Any suggestions for getting it working? Google's not showing me anything recent
[04:44] <newz2000> IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card does not seem to be an option under Capture card setup -> Card type
[16:24] <zuixro> I have two tuner cards in my myth box. Both Hauppauge, one hvr-1600 and one pvr-500. Every time I reboot, it gives the analog tuners different names. Right now video0 and 2 are the 500 and video1 is the 1600. Earlier video0 was the 1600 and video1 and 2 were the 500. Is there a way to force them to stay the same?
[23:37] <cal_> i somehow messed up gdm and autologin .. is there any way to go back to default with that?


[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
[07:52] <Tm_T> morning
[07:55] <Unit193> Howdy
[11:04] <TiMiDo> man 5 days been waiting, still no luck, with my email, forward any help,?
[11:07] <Tm_T> your ubuntu.com email?
[11:08] <AlanBell> did you send a request to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:30] <TiMiDo> yes i did
[11:30] <TiMiDo> just right now
[11:30] <TiMiDo> [rt.ubuntu.com #19208] AutoReply: Timido
[11:44] <TiMiDo> is that it,?
[11:45] <popey> TiMiDo: the update of ubuntu.com email addresses is a manual process, not automated. Sometimes it drops to the bottom of the pile because other more important stuff is ahead of it
[11:46] <TiMiDo> right, got it that's fine.
[11:46] <TiMiDo> i'll wait
[11:46] <popey> TiMiDo: you can ask in #canonical-sysadmin though, thats where your rt goes - to that team
[11:47] <TiMiDo> which nick does rt uses,
[11:47] <TiMiDo> rt?
[11:50] <popey> rt is the request tracker
[11:50] <christel> i suspect the email reaches the entire team, and that rt@ simply stands for request tracker :)
[11:50] <popey> many people have access to it
[11:51] <TiMiDo> oh lol
[11:51] <TiMiDo> got it now
[11:53] <TiMiDo> but i cannot login to it though, is odd
[11:54] <TiMiDo> Your username or password is incorrect
[11:56] <christel> i suspect you will need to communicate via emails to the RT and that only the sysadmin team has actual RT accounts :)
[11:57] <popey> ubuntu / ubuntu is username/password
[11:57] <christel> ah! how wrong am i!
[11:57] <christel> :)
[11:57] <popey> as I said, drop in #canonical-sysadmin and ask there
[17:50] <Fuchs> dholbach: ping :)
[17:50] <dholbach> Fuchs, pong
[17:50] <Fuchs> dholbach: kurz query ist okay?
[17:51] <dholbach> klar
[18:39] <funkyHat> Actually I'm pretty sure any old launchpad account witll work with rt
[23:18] <m4v> IRCC: I need help with #ubuntu-es-cafe, the channel is registered but has no founder that I can see. Can I get control of the channel? My intention is to move our -es-offtopic channel there.
[23:20]  * AlanBell has a look
[23:21] <AlanBell> needs more superpowers than I have
[23:21] <AlanBell> I wonder if super Myrtti is wearing the cape
[23:24] <topyli> needs staff i think, yes
[23:24] <topyli> the move itself is fine by me
[23:26] <topyli> and i like the cafe idea for an offtopic channel. i've often compared #ubuntu-ot to a 'lounge'
[23:27] <Myrtti> you asked 10 minutes too late for me even to try anything, not going to attempt doing it with my phone
[23:28] <Myrtti> sorry :-(
[23:29] <topyli> np, we'll ask someone else <3
[23:29] <Myrtti>  I love you anyway
[23:31] <topyli> i'm talking to staff
[23:32] <marienz> so you are!
[23:32] <marienz> ah, nvm, dax is faster
[23:32] <Myrtti> ♥
[23:34] <topyli> :)
[23:40] <m4v> thanks everyone for helping :)