[06:41] <CIA-59> ubiquity: superm1 * r2980 ubiquity/ (5 files in 4 dirs): merge with mythbuntu-ubiquity branch. this should get rid of the rest of code duplication in mythbuntu_ui. All definitions should be calling their parent for as much common functionality as possible
[07:01] <superm1> cjwatson, I introduced a fair deal of experimental stuff for the mythbuntu frontend in the above commits. i'd like to get these out in a package as soon as possible so there is plenty of testing time on dailies for regressions etc.  are the rest of the pieces that get their source code pulled into ubiquity in a stabilish state that i can do that release?
[09:42] <cjwatson> superm1: I think so, yes
[09:43] <cjwatson> superm1: have you done an upload involving an update of d-i/source/ before?
[10:08] <xivulon> so have been experimenting with grub2 this w/e, and from what I can see it works well with the looback+ntfs module
[10:09] <xivulon> that would allow to avoid the bindmounted /boot dir and all related gymmicks
[10:09] <xivulon> I still need a configuration file in windows though, pointing to the correct loop file
[10:10] <xivulon> would you want me to move to grub2?
[10:12] <evand> We're only adding the option of grub2 this release.  I'm slightly weary of forcing wubi users to it when we don't know what hardware it breaks on yet.  cjwatson, do you have any thoughts on this?
[10:12] <evand> to slightly rephrase, we're only adding grub2 as an option
[10:13] <xivulon> well consider that I am updating from grub4dos not from grub legacy
[10:13] <cjwatson> I think experimentation should come before committing to it (i.e. "move to grub2")
[10:13] <cjwatson> add it as an option first, see how it goes, and then decide
[10:13] <cjwatson> there's just no way to reasonably give a yes/no answer at this point; we do not have enough information
[10:14] <xivulon> I will leave both the grub4dos code in there and add the grub2 code then, I will make it configurable from the makefile
[10:16] <xivulon> grub2 will of course require some changes in other existing ubuntu packages that deal with the bidnmounted boot
[10:16] <cjwatson> superm1: apparently mythweb.postinst configure is hanging during livefs builds. Could you chase it down please? It requires sysadmin intervention every time it happens to avoid breaking all our other livefs builds, so it's pretty urgent
[10:16] <cjwatson> any Ubuntu packages that deal with bind-mounted /boot should be checking whether it is bind-mounted, and therefore no changes should be needed aside from making it not bind-mounted any more
[10:16] <cjwatson> if they aren't checking that, they are already buggy
[10:17] <xivulon> evand, as mentioned at UDS, would you be interested in adding USB creator functionality to wubi?
[10:18] <xivulon> main issue is the boot menu (we would either have to use the grub menu or we would need to add syslinux)
[10:20] <xivulon> the only extra functionality is to write the mbr, and I have already a wubildr.mbr, which should do (in case of grub menu).
[10:25] <xivulon> could be done adding a new UI page or modifying the current installation page.
[10:26] <evand> xivulon: I'm not sure I follow what you mean by "USB creator functionality to wubi"?  If you mean the ability to write USB disks from Wubi, I think that code should live inside usb-creator, and for the latter to grow a MFC/PyGTK/Windows.Forms/whatever frontend.
[10:28] <xivulon> most of the functionality to do usb creator is already available in wubi (including bittorrent, mirror selection, and signature/md5 checks), and that also provides a windows UI for python
[10:28] <xivulon> although not compatible with PyGTK
[10:29] <xivulon> In terms of interface you could come very close to the actual one, and not show the wubi dialogs at all, or add the optionality to the wubi dialog
[10:30] <evand> usb-creator does not download a copy of the ISO yet, but I'm keen to keep a common code path to avoid debugging problems.  I also think we should present a consistent interface.
[10:32] <evand> I think the code for windows should live in the usb-creator package and not diverge too much from the existing frontend and backend.
[10:34] <xivulon> I guess all I am saying is that it would be possible to merge the 2 projects, the current implementation should support multiple backends/frontends
[10:35] <xivulon> so you could think of usb-creator as a wubi for linux, using pygtk, while the windows version uses the win32 wrapper
[10:35] <evand> That seems to violate the unix philosophy of do one thing and do it well, in my humble opinion.
[10:35] <evand> Merging the two projects, that is.
[10:37] <xivulon> not sure I agree, doing a usb bootable device is a strict subcase of what I have to do anyway
[10:37] <xivulon> otehr than dumping the mbr the rest of the code would be very similar
[10:38] <xivulon> This also means that if wubi is ported to linux, you can use that for usb-creator functionality
[10:40] <evand> Hrm
[10:40] <xivulon> anyway I am not going to insist, I thought it would have been beneficial to both, I would have gained a linux port and you a windows one
[10:40] <evand> I'll give it some thought
[10:41] <evand> And at the least give you a better answer
[14:03] <superm1> cjwatson, yeah i chased it down yesterday re mythweb.postinst.  there was an unnecessary db_stop in there.  it should be fixed now
[14:03] <cjwatson> superm1: thanks
[14:28] <CIA-59> ubiquity: superm1 * r2981 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup
[14:31] <CIA-59> ubiquity: superm1 * r2982 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.11.4
[14:40] <superm1> well i think i did the upload right, however bzr doesn't want to push my tag of the revision.  since i was operating on bound branch i had to tag after the commit
[14:56] <superm1> (sorted out the tag.  it's up there now)
[14:56] <xivulon> by the way, I had a couple of issues on the w/e: I did not manage to preseed the password (get asked the question again), and clocksetup (utc) crashed
[15:21] <xivulon> "ClockSetup failed with code 1" (d-i clock-setup/utc boolean false)
[15:26] <cjwatson> xivulon: no idea, need your logs, please file a bug
[15:27] <cjwatson> (as ever, am interested in crashes, but unfortunately summaries of them are usually worse than useless)
[15:27] <xivulon> will do so tonight
[21:41] <TheMuso> cjwatson: If I was to debug the problems with ubiquity+dmraid on a live CD, would it just be a matter of running ubiquity, trying to do an install onto a dmraid array, and getting the logs and recording the UI behavior? I'm thinking this may be worth looking into since users seem to want it on the live CD.
[22:03] <cjwatson> TheMuso: probably a good start at least
[22:04] <TheMuso> cjwatson: Ok thanks, I'll play with that today.
[22:05] <cjwatson> I'd have expected the problems to be either (a) ubiquity/partman interaction or (b) UI
[22:06] <TheMuso> Ok
[22:58] <Rudd-O> hey there
[23:00] <cjwatson> hi
[23:01] <Rudd-O> hey there colin
[23:01] <Rudd-O> did you get my mail?
[23:07] <cjwatson> I did, seems to be in direct competition with evand's usb-creator tool though :-)
[23:08] <cjwatson> anyway, probably more evand's kind of thing to play with
[23:08] <cjwatson> I'm paying more attention to the server installer side of things at the moment
[23:09] <cjwatson> currently working on a cdebconf extension to let us run aptitude during installation, disconnecting properly from debconf and clearing newt out of the way
[23:10] <cjwatson> (I have a new baby at the moment so unfortunately have very little time for anything other than primary-task type stuff, making e-mail responses a bit slow)
[23:14] <Rudd-O> oh, interesting
[23:14] <Rudd-O> so you're basically eliminating the use of newt?  why?
[23:15] <cjwatson> not in the least
[23:15] <cjwatson> just need to clear it out of the way in order to run a full-screen ncurses application at one point, which is too complicated to use debconf
[23:16] <cjwatson> i.e. stop newt, run aptitude, restart newt the way it was - simple enough but requires a cdebconf plugin to do it. Should also fix some of the bugs in the rescue shell
[23:19] <Rudd-O> OH
[23:20] <Rudd-O> so what's your approach?  are you storing the screen state before spawning the fullscreen app?
[23:21] <cjwatson> most of the state's in the frontend already - easier to just tear down newt, save off the few bits and pieces that aren't preserved by doing so, and then let the next debconf protocol command that needs to update the screen set it all back up again
[23:21] <cjwatson> this is already my second try at the same basic idea though so we'll have to see whether it works :)
[23:21] <Rudd-O> ah okay, clever
[23:22] <Rudd-O> quick question though
[23:22] <cjwatson> progress bars are basically the only thing that don't magically resolve themselves, since you can nest another question on top of a progress bar
[23:22] <Rudd-O> can you simply change to an unused VT?
[23:22] <cjwatson> I did consider that
[23:22] <Rudd-O> run the app there, and then chvt back to the original VT?
[23:22] <Rudd-O> that way the console code takes care of preserving your state
[23:22] <cjwatson> if possible, I'd prefer to run it on the same VT in order to force it to be modal
[23:23] <Rudd-O> which is even cooler now that the kernel has code to save the console backboffers
[23:23] <Rudd-O> well, yes, that'd be better and it'd also be compatible with vt emulators
[23:23] <cjwatson> I don't want to have to deal with somebody attempting to interact with tasksel while aptitude is running, or getting confused because they switched to tty4 to look at some logs and now they have to switch to tty5 rather than tty1 to get back


[02:07] <adam_> Can anybody help me with "Case Conflict" zip files?
[02:24] <adam_> figured it out
[04:47] <phillw> anyone about who 'likes' :P Broadcom wifi issues for a newcomer, I'm not really familiar with that particular nightmare.
[11:04] <r4y> Ha ha, OK, yes I know I said this before but this time it's true. I fixed my problem with Ubuntu 10.04 where I would have to login several times until evenually it would let me stay logged in
[11:05] <r4y> I went to system, preferences, monitors and changed the refresh rate from 60 Hz to 70Hz the problem I was having for logging in seemed to stop, but I noticed the screen wasn't fully seen until I chose 75 Hz.
[11:06] <r4y> Apparently this flat sceen monitor must be why this was needed
[11:08] <r4y> I could easily log into the graphical failsafe gnome open from the login screen which is what made me think it must have something to do with graphics. And I thought it had something to do with this motherboard having a built in graphics port, but I was wrong
[11:08] <r4y> bye
[11:27] <r4y> Hello, I know I said bye but I have a questions for the heck of it. I am not in need for the answers but I need to learn
[11:27] <r4y> Is anyone here?
[11:27] <r4y> If not I want to go
[11:28] <r4y> I am looking through questions I asked and am hoping to learn certain things if possible
[11:29] <r4y> does sudo touch /forcefsck only check the filesytem, as in not what's stored in the home folder but just the filesystem?
[11:29] <r4y> I mean why does that take less time then say fsck?
[11:32] <r4y> And does smartctl and smartmontools not just test hard drives?, does it fix problems and not just test?
[11:35] <r4y> Should I run check in Disk Utility to fix problem after doing what?
[11:35] <r4y> running tests with disk utility?
[11:35] <r4y> or?
[11:36] <r4y> I know these are simple things, but sometimes it drives me crazy wondering what order I should do things
[11:36] <r4y> I know that when using disk utility it should be done from a live cd
[11:41] <r4y> My assumsion is that fsck takes longer because it scans the whole hard drive where as sudo touch /forcefsck takes less time because I am assuming it just checks the filesystem, but I don't know
[11:41] <r4y> assumption not assumsion, I forgot to spell check that
[11:43] <r4y> Well, bye I guess. TY all for the help you have given me over the years. And sorry for flooding this place
[11:46] <r4y> Here's another question I would like to know the answer to. Is a Sata hard drive the same as a Pata hard drive?, because Disk Utility says Pata and here I asked: How do I know if this HD supports smart?
[11:46] <r4y> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/11/24/%23ubuntu.html
[11:53] <r4y> OK, never mind: http://superuser.com/questions/201112/how-can-i-use-an-old-pata-hard-disk-drive-on-my-newer-sata-only-computer
[11:54] <r4y> LOL, that's crazy
[11:54] <r4y> well, bye, take care
[18:51] <AJH101> Hi I installed 12.4 and 12.4.1. I would like to install 12.04.2 but I am only offered 12.10 by Update Manager. Am I missing something?
[18:52] <duanedesign> hi AJH101. You might check your settings option.
[18:53] <AJH101> I was on LTS only updates, and then changed it to any release - still no joy...
[18:53] <Unit193> AJH101: Try running  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   in a terminal.  After that, lsb_release -a
[18:57] <AJH101> lots going on...
[19:00] <AJH101> Hmm. The last command said i was running 12.04 but UM is still offering 12.1 only
[19:00] <AJH101> 12.10
[19:00] <AJH101> brb
[19:02] <duanedesign> i would think a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade would take care of that. dot releases are ususaly taken care of as part of your normal package updates. So you wont be offered a new release it will just update the packages as they become available
[19:03] <Unit193> Indeed, that's how it works.
[19:40] <T0077238> Hi - total Ubuntu n00b here.  I am attempting to recover my bricked lenovo with a USB Ubuntu-Desktop and I need to use GPART to check the partitions on my apparently dead LT.  Where on the memory stick can I drop the exe for GPART?
[19:41] <T0077238> Can I create a new folder on the stick or will that kill the bootability?  TIA for any and all assistance.
[19:44] <duanedesign> you ddont want the exe for running on Ubuntu
[19:44] <T0077238> oh right I guess that windows doh
[19:44] <duanedesign> yeah it is habit :)
[19:44] <T0077238> so if I go back and get the linux ver - do I put that in its own folder on the stick?
[19:45] <T0077238> does ubuntu use folders?  ;-D
[19:45] <duanedesign> I dont have a lot of experience running ubuntu on a usb stick. However you should be able to open the Software Center and install gparted
[19:46] <T0077238> hmmm I don't know that term SW Centre.  Is that like ctrl panel on win?
[19:46] <duanedesign> or open a terminal and run the command - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:47] <duanedesign> T0077238: the software center should be in the launcher on the left hand side of the screen
[19:47] <T0077238> I haven't booted into Ubuntu yet, just making the bootable stick at the mo'
[19:47] <duanedesign> or you can click the ubuntu logo in the upper left and when the Dash opens search for Software Center
[19:48] <T0077238> ok then I can collect the gparted file and use it on another machine?
[19:49] <duanedesign> I did read this "If you have created the usb using the live usb creator or a similar tool no, they provide a semi-peristent option which allows to change /home contents but not the root filesystem."
[19:50] <duanedesign> so...if that is the case
[19:53] <duanedesign> you will want to install the application in your Home directory
[19:53] <duanedesign> i need to boot into ubuntu, ill be right back
[19:59] <duanedesign> ok
[19:59] <duanedesign> <.<  >.>
[21:31] <T0077238> I'm back!  So I found that the gparted iso can be made into a bootable USB and it comes with testdisk (TM) onboard!  Sweeeet!  So now I'm waiting more or less patiently while Testdisk tries to recover or make available the files off my dead LT
[21:32] <T0077238> What I'm wondering instead is whether Ubuntu can be installed in place of Win7 but still preserve all my files (family pics, movies etc)?
[21:33] <holstein> photorec from testdisk will get them, if they can be gotten.. wont be labeled though
[21:33] <holstein> and it can take a while
[21:33] <holstein> T0077238: depends
[21:33] <holstein> T0077238: if you have a seperate data partition, then you can just keep that in place and the data will be in place
[21:34] <T0077238> oh that's too bad and yes I see it's taking quite awhile - only 80/60800 done in 10 min
[21:34] <holstein> if you are asking "i have a windows partition, and id like to replace that with linux, reformatting to a linux partition and would like for my data to live through that formatting" then no
[21:34] <holstein> but, thats ok
[21:35] <holstein> you should *always* have backups *before* doing anything like that anyway
[21:35] <holstein> you should have backups since *all* hard drives *will* fail
[21:35] <holstein> T0077238: it can take a long time
[21:35] <holstein> i have let photorec run for days
[21:35] <T0077238> I do have b/u but they're on my horrid Seagate(?) NAS with that mimeo software
[21:36] <T0077238> I think I'm only in Testdisk - still just searching
[21:36] <holstein> then, thats not a backup
[21:36] <holstein> thats a proprietary backup
[21:36] <holstein> you might wnat to consider how you are able to access "your" data
[21:36] <holstein> usually there are ways to connect via ftp
[21:37] <T0077238>  what I'm hoping is that Ubuntu will magically install itself without touching my data files - they're not on a sep part tho
[21:38] <T0077238> my original problem is that my dear husband got impatient and shut down the LT during a Win7 update and now it won't reboot
[21:38] <T0077238> and to make matters worse, the recovery disks I paid someone else to make are frikn corrupted
[21:39] <holstein> hoping?
[21:39] <holstein> its a machine.. hoping wont do anything
[21:39] <holstein> if you format, you lose data
[21:39] <T0077238> and just to make me pull out my hair - the failure of those corrupted disks, killed the lenovo one key recovery that should have been able to restore factory defauts
[21:39] <holstein> has nothing to do with ubuntu or windows...
[21:39] <holstein> you cant partition and format without losing that data
[21:39] <holstein> you *will* also lose that data when that hard drive fails, so having a backup that you can get to is a good use of time
[21:40] <holstein> T0077238: you can use a live CD to mount and recover the data, as it seems you are
[21:40] <holstein> but, you likely can just go in and get them.. not needing to use testdisk
[21:40] <T0077238> I didn't receive a Win CD
[21:40] <holstein> T0077238: you didnt buy it
[21:41] <holstein> T0077238: you bought a machine with windows on it
[21:41] <T0077238> those corrupted recovery disks were supposed to be both
[21:41] <holstein> T0077238: i would ask the person that created them
[21:41] <T0077238> right
[21:41] <T0077238> future shop imbeciles
[21:42] <holstein> yeah?
[21:42] <holstein> could just be a bad burn.. or the way you stored them
[21:42] <holstein> i mean, you can hate them if you need.. but again.. its just a machine
[21:42] <holstein> if you paid for disks, and they are bad, you should be able to get another copy easy enough
[21:42] <T0077238> probably cheap DVDs - they've been inside a plastic bag in their dust jackets in a closet for almost 1 yr
[21:43] <holstein> T0077238: i have disk that are years old that work.. and others that are bad right off the bat
[21:43] <T0077238> yes, I just dread having to talk to those ppl - personality free shut-ins
[21:43] <holstein> also, you dont know that the optical drive is not the issue
[21:44] <T0077238> unlikely b/c it boots and reads/runs for awhile then fails
[21:44] <T0077238> anyway
[21:45] <holstein> T0077238: it?
[21:45] <holstein> the machine?
[21:45] <T0077238> just wondering if I install ubuntu in the small (30GB) unalloc space - can it see the ntfs folders that remain on the big partition?
[21:45] <holstein> the optical drive.. gotcha.. sounds like it could be either
[21:45] <T0077238> right
[21:45] <holstein> you cant rule out bad hardare til you rule it out
[21:46] <holstein> T0077238: you can do that without installing
[21:46] <holstein> T0077238: you can see the "ntfs folders" from the live CD
[21:46] <T0077238> oh - would we have to boot using the usb every time tho?
[21:47] <holstein> T0077238: i would boot the live CD, get the data backedup, and reinstall whatever OS's i want
[21:47] <T0077238> i have to get the live CD from future shop first and i don't expect them to just hand it over - I seem to recall some blather about the recovery disks being given in place
[21:48] <holstein> T0077238: the ubntu installer disc is the live CD im talking about
[21:48] <T0077238> oh sorry
[21:48] <holstein> T0077238: the install cd that you are talkig about using to install to that 30gb partition
[21:48] <holstein> you just dont install there
[21:48] <T0077238> does ubuntu have a speedy app for massive file transfer?
[21:48] <holstein> you just boot live
[21:49] <holstein> T0077238: it has a file manager.. the data moves and the speed it ca
[21:49] <T0077238> oh like in the try before you buy example
[21:49] <holstein> the app is what it is
[21:49] <holstein> the s
[21:49] <holstein> the speediness will be from the drive and the protoco
[21:49] <holstein> protocol*
[21:49] <T0077238> ack
[21:49] <holstein> like, USB has a limit... firewire
[21:49] <holstein> etc
[21:49] <holstein> T0077238: ack?
[21:50] <T0077238> sorry habit    ack = acknowledge
[21:50] <T0077238> as in I understand
[21:50] <holstein> coo
[21:50] <holstein> l
[21:51] <holstein> T0077238: you should be able to do it from whatever live CD you are in now
[21:51] <T0077238> do you know if could I ftp from my LT to my GOFLEX NAS?
[21:51] <holstein> T0077238: i know you can.. the question is, does the goflex support ftp?
[21:51] <T0077238> hmmm not sure even how to check
[21:52] <holstein> T0077238: i usually just google.. just look in the admin page and see for myself
[21:52] <T0077238> Yes - google will know.  Google always knows.  :-D
[21:53] <holstein> Look at chapter 5, section about accessing your GoFlex using FTP
[21:53] <holstein> ^^ that is from the first page that popped up for me
[21:53] <T0077238> do you know if I can interrupt the Testdisk at the search phase without killing everything?
[21:53] <holstein> what would i do? get a usb drive
[21:53] <holstein> T0077238: wont hurt to do both
[21:54] <holstein> T0077238: what is photorec saving to?
[21:54] <T0077238> yes, I think I will attach to it with usb and then boot into the live ubuntu and move everything across to the NAS and then I'll get new recovery disks from FS
[21:54] <holstein> T0077238: sounds like a plan
[21:55] <holstein> you can get your data off, and install ubuntu while you wait
[21:55] <holstein> see if you prefer it
[21:55] <T0077238> I think at the moment it's just searching - I followed this guy's steps:  http://geexhq.com/recover-partition-table/
[21:55] <holstein> i dont think you have a bad partition table
[21:55] <T0077238> on step 8 -
[21:56] <T0077238> no it seemed to read it ok
[21:56] <T0077238> but when i looked in gparted the main part showed UNKNOWN for the file system
[21:56] <T0077238> which is where all the data is, of course
[21:57] <holstein> that doesnt mean you have a bad patition table
[21:57] <holstein> that means, that version of linux doesnt know what partition type that is
[21:57] <holstein> thats all you can assume from that
[21:57] <holstein> the software you are using doesnt know what file system that is
[21:57] <holstein> not.. the file system is corrupt.. or broken
[21:58] <T0077238> I got hopeful that Testdisk might be able to restore access to the files rather than having to do a system restore and lose them all
[21:58] <holstein> you could probbaly instigate a chkdsk or whatever fsck is from windows safe mode and "fix" it
[21:58] <T0077238> unfortunately the LT no longer boots so I cannot get to a dos prompt
[21:58] <holstein> T0077238: thats hardware then
[21:59] <holstein> that has nothing to do with the hard drive.. unless it does
[21:59] <T0077238> lol
[21:59] <holstein> you'd have to elaborate as to "no longer boots"
[21:59] <holstein> that means, "i his the power button, and it dosent boot"
[21:59] <T0077238> i think that b/c my hub restarted the machine mid-update
[21:59] <holstein> T0077238: sure.. but how does it not boot?
[22:00] <T0077238> yesterday a win7 update started and seemed to get stuck at 30% so he used the power button to shut it down
[22:00] <holstein> T0077238: i get that.. but after that. how does it not boot?
[22:00] <T0077238> when he tried to turn it back on and get black scrn with disk read error
[22:00] <holstein> what do you mean by "doesnt boot"? and how? and when?
[22:00] <holstein> T0077238: what error?
[22:01] <T0077238> top right hand corner - something like:  no disk - Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart
[22:01] <T0077238> correction top left
[22:01] <holstein> T0077238: thats different too
[22:01] <holstein> T0077238: that means the machine is not finding a disk that'll boot
[22:02] <holstein> T0077238: that doesnt necessarily mean the hard drive is bad either
[22:02] <holstein> T0077238: you are assuming, and spending time based on that assumption
[22:02] <T0077238> yes but in the multiboot menu hdd is in the list but goes round in a circle
[22:02] <holstein> which is fine, and might be correct
[22:02] <T0077238> no i think this is all b/c of that update not completing
[22:02] <holstein> right
[22:02] <holstein> you think
[22:02] <holstein> thats what im saying
[22:02] <holstein> you think
[22:02] <T0077238> followed by the failure of those corrupted recovery disks
[22:03] <holstein> i know its because of the hard reboot, but what you dont know is what broke and how
[22:03] <holstein> or, if anything is broken
[22:03] <T0077238> maybe so but how to diagnose?
[22:03] <holstein> the hard drive could have been ruined.. and no amount of work you are going to do will fix it
[22:03] <holstein> i dont think that is true.. but its an option
[22:03] <T0077238> you are full of good news
[22:03] <T0077238> sigh
[22:03] <holstein> T0077238: i test
[22:03] <holstein> T0077238: i get a live CD.. i mount the disk i move the data
[22:04] <holstein> if no, i get photorec and restore as much as posssible
[22:04] <T0077238> yes I think that is my only
[22:04] <T0077238> C
[22:04] <holstein> then, i run test.. test that take hours
[22:04] <T0077238> COA (course of action)
[22:04] <holstein> i see that the drive is good, then i rebuild it
[22:04] <T0077238> is Seagate a good name in HDDs?  I always thought so
[22:05] <holstein> T0077238: dosnt matter.. *all* hard drives fail
[22:05] <T0077238> true enough
[22:05] <holstein> new ones. old ones.. all brands.. doesnt matter
[22:06] <T0077238> ok i think i'll stop the quick search of Testdisk and go with the plan
[22:06] <T0077238> to move the data off the drive
[22:07] <T0077238> holstein you've been very helpful  Thanks!
[22:07] <holstein> T0077238: cheers


[05:06] <Pinu> Hi
[05:06] <Pinu> is any one around today ?
[09:04] <mzanetti> Trevinho, hey, can I disable that android like glow on scrollable elements?
[09:05]  * Saviq agrees it probably makes more sense on touch than with mouse wheel
[09:05] <mzanetti> yeah, with 2-finger scroll on touchpads it's particularly annoying
[09:05] <mzanetti> as it always shows on one side of the list at least
[09:05] <mzanetti> because I never scroll exactly vertical
[09:29] <Trevinho> mzanetti: yeah, you've to add some custom css to your gtkrc
[09:29] <Trevinho> mzanetti: I don't know the class, but it's doable...
[09:56] <tsdgeos> Saviq: the qtmultimedia side for https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/audioCardSupport/+merge/271605 seems to be good now
[09:56] <tsdgeos> we just need someone to review it
[10:04] <Saviq> tsdgeos, ack
[10:53] <mzanetti> cimi, Saviq, pstolowski: anyone of you aware of a scope that is using the sharing features?
[10:53] <cimi> mzanetti, nope
[10:53] <cimi> mzanetti, you can hack it uop
[10:53] <cimi> patching a scope and adding sharing to it
[10:53] <mzanetti> it's PM asking about status
[10:53] <mzanetti> cimi, did the docu updates land?
[10:54] <cimi> mzanetti, mmm pstolowski ^^
[10:57] <dandrader> does anyone have some spare minutes to try to reproduce this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1518122
[10:57] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1518122 in QtMir "Launch Falldown/Monster Wars and turn off screen before the app is ready ---> the app keeps reproducing audio" [High,In progress]
[10:58] <dandrader> I can't reproduce it :/
[10:58] <pstolowski> mzanetti, cimi no docu update yet. i'm pretty sure no scope is using it yet
[10:59] <cimi> pstolowski, if we have a doc, we will have scopes :)
[10:59] <pstolowski> cimi, from past experiences i'd argue it's that simple ;) but sure, i'll add docs
[11:00] <cimi> pstolowski, you know better than me on this regard :)
[11:00] <pstolowski> cimi, respective people needs to be pinged about new features, otherwise they won't notice ;
[11:00] <pstolowski> ;)
[11:00] <mzanetti> dandrader, reproduced on krillin
[11:02] <mzanetti> dandrader, I remember we had this issue already at some point... I could've sworn I saw Gerry adding a test for it even
[11:05] <tsdgeos> dandrader: can't repro on the MX4
[11:06]  * mzanetti tries on arale
[11:06] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: what did you use? falldown? mosnster wars? other?
[11:06] <mzanetti> monsterwards
[11:06] <mzanetti> monsterwars
[11:06] <tsdgeos> let me try with that one
[11:06] <mzanetti> reproduced on arale too
[11:07] <dandrader> mzanetti, hmmm. I tried with falldown only
[11:08] <mzanetti> as soon as the splash has shown up, press the power button
[11:08] <mzanetti> then wait another 5 secs or so
[11:08] <mzanetti> sound will start playing
[11:08]  * tsdgeos installs monster wars
[11:09] <mzanetti> interestingly doesn't seem to happen for falldown for me either
[11:15] <dandrader> tsdgeos, anything?
[11:15] <dandrader> mzanetti, ah, good
[11:17] <dandrader> mzanetti, tsdgeos, yeah, reproduced with monster wars!
[11:17] <tsdgeos> dandrader: same here
[11:17] <tsdgeos> random thought, the rotation has something to do
[11:18] <mzanetti> hmm... interesting
[11:19] <mzanetti> that would mean you should be able to repro it with falldown on the nexus7
[11:22] <mzanetti> I wonder what byobu is... I always read bring your own booze and get stuck at the u
[11:23] <dandrader> mzanetti, I think it comes from biombo (image search it)
[11:32] <mzanetti> hmm... indeed...
[11:32] <mzanetti> using Konsole here, that can do this stuff on its own
[11:36] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: should we mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1494820 as fixed since it doesn't happen since august? https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/003f0e8f98fef2cbbb6f8c3800fd04241ededbed
[11:36] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1494820 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/unity8-dash crashes on startup in UbuntuClientIntegration constructor while logging "UbuntuClientIntegration: connection to Mir server failed. Check that a Mir server is\nrunning, and the correct socket is being used and is accessible. The shell may have\nrejected the incoming connectio"" [High,New]
[11:36] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yeah... I guess that's ok
[11:38] <tsdgeos> one bug less \o/ :D
[12:18] <davmor2> 99 little bugs on the wall, 99 little bugs, take one down code it around, there are 101 little bugs on the wall ;)
[13:16] <mzanetti> greyback, do you think we should Unity.Screens to unity-api?
[15:11] <boiko> greyback: hi, any idea on what could be causing this: https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/d4b5f8e8e69986f28fd161d677a4cea7c76e4c7f
[15:11] <boiko> greyback: (connection to Mir server failed)
[15:25] <Saviq> boiko, unity8 not running, really
[15:26] <boiko> Saviq: the weird thing about it is: it could have been any app, right? why it is only happening in dialer-app?
[15:28] <Saviq> boiko, good question, I wonder if this could be the dialer as launched over greeter? how is that launched?
[15:29] <boiko> Saviq: couldn't determine, but in one of the cases it is launched from telephony-service after accepting a call in the snap decision, so very likely over greeter
[15:31] <Saviq> boiko, how does t-s launch the dialer in that case?
[15:31] <boiko> Saviq: it invokes url-dispatcher to open the dialer:///?view=liveCall URL
[15:32] <Saviq> boiko, right, so The Right Thing™...
[15:32] <boiko> Saviq: but in some of error examples there was no command line argument, so there might be other ways to reproduce the problem
[15:33] <Saviq> boiko, yeah, a way to reproduce would be really interesting...
[18:08] <ChrisTownsend> Hey guys, so on the Unity 8 desktop with the latest qtmir and unity8 packages on Xenial, I'm getting an issue when I exit an Xapp, it's also killing the Unity 8 session.  I either get the blank u-s-c screen or the U8 greeter.  AFAICT, no crash is occurring and nothing looks interesting in the unity8.log.  I downgraded both qtmir and unity8 packages to the previous version and the issue goes away.
[18:09] <ChrisTownsend> I've been trying to track down if it's in qtmir or unity 8, but so far I haven't found much success.  Quite a bit changed in the latest landings.
[22:03] <jcastro> What are the latest instructions for trying unity8 on a xenial desktop?
[22:03] <jcastro> I've installed the unity8-desktop-session-mir package but trying to pick that from lightdm doesn't appear to work
[22:13] <Saviq> jcastro, define "doesn't appear to work"?
[22:14] <Saviq> (it should)
[22:14] <jcastro> I login to lightdm with the unity8/mir session
[22:15] <jcastro> and then I get what appears to be the lock screen again, but this time it looks like unity8, and it's asking for a password
[22:15] <Saviq> jcastro, that means it's working
[22:15] <jcastro> but, there's also a sidebar with the ubuntu icon and the browser and settings icons
[22:15] <Saviq> jcastro, that is unity8, can you not log in?
[22:15] <jcastro> oh ok, so how do I get past the lock screen? I can't seem to launch anything
[22:15] <Saviq> jcastro, type in your password :)
[22:15] <jcastro> yeah, it's not accepting my normal password
[22:16] <Saviq> hmm hmm
[22:16] <Saviq> mterry, can you help jcastro ↑
[22:16] <Saviq> or josharenson ↑
[22:17] <jcastro> if I push against the left edge I can see the launcher, but it appears as though the lock screen is over my desktop
[22:17] <jcastro> so like, I get the little arrow showing that things are launching
[22:21] <Saviq> jcastro, yes, that's expected
[22:21] <Saviq> jcastro, it's meant to allow you get to apps... quicker, in a sense... but more than that, later we'll allow launching restricted versions of apps without unlocking (think camera, notes, flashlight...)
[22:22] <Saviq> jcastro, one dumb thing to try, would you care to change your password to something simple?
[22:24] <jcastro> passwd wouldn't let me set it to something simple, but changing it and trying it again results in a freeze
[22:29] <Saviq> ugh, a unity8 crash, by any chance
[22:29] <Saviq> ?
[22:31] <Saviq> jcastro, all else fails, you might go `passwd -d` and log in passwordless, but it would still be interesting to know why you couldn't log in :/
[22:32] <jcastro> looks like it, only thing in the logs afaict is it's complaining that .face is missing
[22:32] <Saviq> jcastro, if you look in `systemctl status whoopsie.service`, does it show an OOPS id by any chance? got a .crash file in /var/crash?
[22:35] <jcastro> ok progress, removing my passwd allowed me to login, I went through the first use wizard, now I have a scopes window that appears to be crashing over and over, but I now am in the desktop!
[22:41] <Saviq> d'oh
[22:41] <Saviq> jcastro, sorry about that experience, we don't know either issue
[22:42] <jcastro> it's fine, I don't mind debugging
[23:55] <josharenson> Saviq: jcastro just reading now... I locked myself out of my appt and just got back in...
[23:57] <josharenson> jcastro: well I'm almost certain the first issue will be resolved when https://code.launchpad.net/~josharenson/unity8/slim_greeter_real_lightdm is merged


[08:02] <dholbach> good morning
[15:14] <mhall119> good morning, I've started on the LoCo Teams docs for the new community portal, if anybody would like to join me: http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-help-meeting-locos
[15:14] <mhall119> czajkowski: ^^ if you have time today
[15:14] <mhall119> cprofitt: too
[15:18] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, sounds really good
[15:18] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, you can ask for helping to the LC too
[15:18] <SergioMeneses> ;)
[15:19] <mhall119> !lc
[15:19] <ubot2`> Factoid 'lc' not found
[15:19] <mhall119> I can never remember how to get the bot to ping everyone
[15:19] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, LocoCouncil
[15:19] <mhall119> !LocoCouncil
[15:19] <ubot2`> The Loco Council is huats, czajkowski, itnet7, SergioMeneses, coolbhavi, and effiejayx - they are there to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:19] <mhall119> thanks SergioMeneses :)
[15:20] <coolbhavi> hey mhall119
[15:20] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, no worries
[15:20] <coolbhavi> good morning!
[15:20] <SergioMeneses> I think I can help but at night
[15:20] <SergioMeneses> coolbhavi, hey hey how are you?
[15:21] <coolbhavi> SergioMeneses, m fine. about you?
[15:22] <SergioMeneses> fine too, thanks
[15:23] <mhall119> SergioMeneses: :P
[15:23] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, jajaja
[15:32] <SergioMeneses> mhall119, I edit it but maybe huats czajkowski coolbhavi or effie want to add more information
[15:34] <mhall119> thanks SergioMeneses
[23:54] <czajkowski> mhall119: on annual leave till tuesday :)


[01:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-7-cross-ports [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [0ubuntu3] (no packageset)
[06:26] <slangasek> nacc: php7.x-xml should be fixed to not Provide: php-xml, that's what was still holding php7.0 in main
[07:21] <acheronuk> contact SRU team in here, or somewhere else?
[07:30] <acheronuk> anyway... got an email about this on phased updates https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2017.04&package=k3b&period=day&version=17.04.0-0ubuntu1
[07:30] <acheronuk> can't see anything in the build and changes that would account for any increased crash rate there.
[07:32] <acheronuk> I suspect is it more a case of, "oooh, and update to something I don't normally use. I'll launch it and have a look". Then managing to trigger a crash I can't replicate, which they may well have got with the previous build had the bothered to do the same with that
[07:50] <acheronuk> oh, and if I look at a timescale of a week or more on that report page and look at all versions (i.e. from before the start of the update phasing or that version was uploaded), I see more occurrences or exactly the same reports
[07:56] <acheronuk> so if there is a crash (that I can't track or reproduce) evidence is very strong that it is not the SRU update build itself
[08:06] <apw> acheronuk, yes SRU is "here"
[08:07] <acheronuk> apw: thanks. glad I wasn't talking pointlessly into the void there :)
[08:07] <Laney> both things could be true :)
[08:09] <apw> acheronuk, there also is "a major uptick" but htat is from 1 to 3 reports if i am reading this right
[08:10] <apw> acheronuk, and i assuem that is because you had none in 17.04 before it released, and then got some users, who are hitting these rare bugs
[08:10] <apw> acheronuk, is it telling you the thing has been stopped ?
[08:11] <acheronuk> apw: agreed
[08:11] <acheronuk> or at least that is the way it seems to me
[08:11] <acheronuk> 2 secs
[08:11] <acheronuk> apw: email "Further phasing of this update has been stopped until the errors have either been fixed or determined to not be a result of this Stable Release Update."
[08:12] <apw> Laney, do you know one determines that ?
[08:13] <apw> or indicates one has ....
[08:15] <Laney> ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[08:15] <Laney> on a case by case basis AFAIK
[08:15] <infinity> acheronuk: You're reading it wrong.  The double free is definitely new.
[08:15] <infinity> A few of these are new.
[08:16] <infinity> https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/ccf29ca2fc3a7fd8440f77fb469260998c2725bc is new.
[08:17] <acheronuk> link does not work for me ^^^
[08:17] <infinity> acheronuk: And I'm not sure how you can confidently say that you see nothing in a 6MB diff to account for that. :P
[08:21] <acheronuk> infinity: the double free says 1 occurrence for version 17.04.0-0ubuntu1, but checking over all versions (which must be pre-SRU builds) it is 3 occurrences
[08:22] <acheronuk> infinity: and the other error certainly has occurrences prior to the SRU build
[08:23] <infinity> I may be having windowing issues indeed.
[08:23] <infinity> And also just diffed the sources to see it was pretty much all po updates.
[08:24] <infinity> Well, and some XML, which could cause random crashes in an XML parser, I suppose, but meh.
[08:24] <acheronuk> infinity: not saying I discount these crashes. I will be keeping an eye on bug reports to see if we get anything concrete to work with and that shows the affect users adversly
[08:27] <infinity> FWIW, one of these double-frees is "new", in that the identical signature hasn't been seen on a previous version, but this software seems to just randomly vomit double-frees all over the place, in many versions, so I don't think this is so much new as just a slightly different codepath with the same bug. :P
[08:28] <acheronuk> infinity: right. this is the 1st time I have really had to use that crash data pages, and can't log in anyway, so may have missed that :/
[08:28] <infinity> Yeah, I'm not sure who you ask to get access, but you should ask nicely for access for things you can upload.
[08:29] <infinity> (It's locked down by default because stack traces of random user cores are potentially very sensitive, so I suspect there's some interview process where you have to promise to be a good person)
[08:29] <acheronuk> infinity: agreed. already submitted the canonical for asking for permission to view them on packages in the kubuntu set
[08:30] <infinity> Anyhow, I think I'm okay with phasing this back up.
[08:30] <infinity> After looking at the mess in more detail.
[08:30] <acheronuk> *canonical online form I mean
[08:31] <infinity> acheronuk: And done.
[08:32] <acheronuk> infinity: thank you. :) As said, will keep an eye on bug reports, forum posts etc.
[08:48] <LocutusOfBorg> interesting, with windows style line endings the #!/bin/sh is not correctly interpreted
[08:49] <LocutusOfBorg> is this a regression? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/v/vtk6/artful/amd64
[08:50] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: /bin/sh^M is very much not a valid interpreter. :P
[08:50] <LocutusOfBorg> well, it is the windows style line ending 0a0d, we might check it and use it anyway?
[08:51] <LocutusOfBorg> in the meanwhile I'll ask anton to stop using that stuff, and I uploaded a fixed one
[08:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I was just curious
[08:51] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Or, don't write shell scripts in notepad.
[08:52] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Pretty sure you won't convince the kernel folks to parse DOS magic.
[08:52] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, right that is a windows line ending, linux uses unix line endings
[08:53] <apw> windows is of course wrong :)
[08:53] <infinity> Can't fathom how or why that upload changed ALL those line endings.
[08:53] <infinity> The diff is a mess.
[08:53] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm not saying windows is right, of course :)
[08:53] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, yes, I don't even find such changes in git
[08:54] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm cloning the repo right now
[08:56] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: He somehow did a unix2dos number on pretty much all of debian/patches and debian/tests.
[08:56] <apw> derp
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg> just on the patch headers, of course
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg> this seems intentional
[08:56] <LocutusOfBorg> and intentionally wrong
[08:57] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Some headers.  A few complete patches.
[08:57] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: It's weird.
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> I think quilt complains
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> or maybe they are not applied
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> nice to see how science team can screw up things
[08:57] <infinity> Absolutely bizarre, at any rate.
[08:58] <LocutusOfBorg> Applying patch 10_allpatches.patch
[08:58] <LocutusOfBorg> (Stripping trailing CRs from patch; use --binary to disable.)
[08:59] <LocutusOfBorg> he did that because the source is probably wrong
[09:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected gcc-7-cross-ports [i386] (artful-proposed) [0ubuntu3]
[09:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected gcc-7-cross-ports [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [0ubuntu3]
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: x11proto-core (xenial-proposed/main) [7.0.28-2ubuntu1 => 7.0.31-1~ubuntu16.04.1] (core, xorg)
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libdrm (xenial-proposed/main) [2.4.70-1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 2.4.76-1~ubuntu16.04.1] (core, xorg)
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libxfont (xenial-proposed/main) [1:1.5.1-1 => 1:2.0.1-3~ubuntu16.04.1] (core, xorg)
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: libxfont1 (xenial-proposed/primary) [1:1.5.2-4~ubuntu16.04.1]
[09:23] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, please accept virtualbox-* in yakkety and zesty unapproved queues? :)
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libwacom (xenial-proposed/main) [0.18-1 => 0.22-1~ubuntu16.04.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: llvm-toolchain-4.0 (xenial-proposed/primary) [1:4.0-1ubuntu1~16.04.1]
[09:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wayland (xenial-proposed/main) [1.9.0-1 => 1.12.0-1~ubuntu16.04.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server, xorg)
[09:29] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, the SRU bug you have used for the zesty one is the same as for xenial, can you some how say the version pairs for the other srus which apply
[09:29] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, perhaps right at the top "Zesty affects version X and fixed in Y"
[09:36] <tjaalton> infinity: ^ uploaded the first batch of hwe-16.04 refresh. have a look when you're back from holidays
[09:42] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, will do shortly (meeting now)
[09:42] <LocutusOfBorg> can we please know what is the plan with src:location-service and boost-1.61^
[09:53] <apw> xnox, ^ ?
[09:58] <sil2100> Do we use location-service for anything besides the now-deprecated touch?
[09:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.1.22-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:02] <infinity> sil2100: Probably not, but following the rdep trail tears out basically all of touch. :P
[10:02] <infinity> sil2100: So, someone should either fix it, unentangle it, or decide WTF to do with the whole stack.
[10:03] <sil2100> hah, I guess we might really start considering just thrashing touch altogether
[10:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-ext-pack [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.1.22-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:04] <Laney> xn_ox is looking at the removals alreaady
[10:05] <infinity> Laney: Unless he's started on a second round, he was originally just looking at a shallow set that directly involved upstart.
[10:06] <Laney> Second round is correct.
[10:06] <infinity> Oh, shiny.
[10:06] <LocutusOfBorg> ok I will disentangle location-service by making it build agasint boost-1.62
[10:06] <LocutusOfBorg> and then ask removal of boost1.61
[10:06] <infinity> Well, I won't lose sleep over it if it all gets torn out.
[10:06] <Laney> https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-seeds/unity8-removals/+merge/323615
[10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-guest-additions-iso [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.1.22-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:07] <LocutusOfBorg> reject? :(
[10:09] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, version numbers of the support packages are newer than artful
[10:11] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: I suspect the version you were looking for there was 5.1.22-1~17.04.1 (or, if there really are Ubuntu changes and it's not just a straight backport, 5.1.22-1~ubuntu17.04.1)
[10:12] <LocutusOfBorg> the first one is good, reuploading
[10:14] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, please accept virtualbox/yakkety and reject the other two :)
[10:14] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: The verb you're looking for is "review", not "accept". ;)
[10:15] <apw> infinity, i've nearly correct that a couple of times too :)
[10:16] <LocutusOfBorg> s/accept/review/g :)
[10:16] <LocutusOfBorg> I forgot, -i irclogs.ubuntu.com/* :D
[10:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-ext-pack [source] (yakkety-proposed) [5.1.22-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-guest-additions-iso [source] (yakkety-proposed) [5.1.22-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[10:19] <LocutusOfBorg> and reuploaded :)
[10:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-ext-pack (zesty-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.18-1 => 5.1.22-2~17.04.1] (no packageset)
[10:20] <LocutusOfBorg> fortunately the virtualbox-* don't suffer from strange versioning schemes
[10:20] <LocutusOfBorg> (they don't suffer anymore)
[10:20] <infinity> They do, however, still suffer from being virtualbox.
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-ext-pack (yakkety-proposed/universe) [5.1.6-2ubuntu1 => 5.1.22-2~16.10.1] (no packageset)
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso (zesty-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.18-1 => 5.1.22-1~17.04.1] (no packageset)
[10:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso (yakkety-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.6-1 => 5.1.22-1~16.10.1] (no packageset)
[10:21] <ginggs> would someone please bump the pysam hint to 'force-badtest python-pysam/0.10.0+ds-2/armhf python-pysam/0.10.0+ds-2/i386'  ?
[10:22] <ginggs> and please rm deepnano:armhf from artful-proposed - it built where it is not installable
[10:22] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, I meant, there was a automatically-evaluated version check in ext-pack against the same virtualbox minor release, but I fixed it
[10:22] <infinity> Laney: ^-- Can we make britney/autopkgtest/whoever forget those arches had results?  Hinting them forever because they're no longer built isn't super sane.
[10:23] <apw> i seem to remeber we have to remove the results in-toto from swift to do that currently (or something)
[10:23] <infinity> ginggs: Removal done.
[10:23] <ginggs> infinity: thanks
[10:24] <Laney> infinity: No, but you can use 'all' for the version
[10:24] <infinity> Laney: Sure, but then if it *does* build on those arches in the future, we'll continue ignoring it until someone notices.
[10:24] <infinity> Laney: Which is why I didn't use /all
[10:24] <Laney> It's that or go hack swift and delete the results
[10:25] <ginggs> Laney: would one have to delete all the past results, or just for the current series?
[10:25] <apw> i wonder if there is something we can do outside to extract the /all/ hints and verify them
[10:26] <infinity> Seems like a bit of a weird bug that we request tests on an arch that has no binaries.
[10:27] <apw> i assume it has some via _all
[10:27] <infinity> Oh, indeed, python-pysam-tests is arch:all.
[10:29] <infinity> Though, that's not the bug.
[10:29] <Laney> ginggs: You would delete all passed results for the series in question so it's alwaysfailed, and then I think there's a cache in britney to remove too.
[10:29] <infinity> I've ignored other stuff that has no arch:all bits.
[10:29] <infinity> We seem to just keep requesting tests on all arches forever.
[10:30] <infinity> Though, it also looks like I used foo/all/arch for lots of those, so not sure why python-pysam is special in my mind.
[10:30] <infinity> I'll /all it for now.
[10:30] <Laney> Write a test for it: tests/test_autopkgtest.py
[10:31] <Laney> Assuming this bug exists and therefore it's not tested for
[10:31] <apw> infinity, i think in the short term we should perioducally check the /all/ for good and rip them, i recon we could that prgramtically pretty easy
[10:32] <infinity> Anyhow, updated the hint for now.  That's all the energy I have for it at 4:30am.
[10:33] <ginggs> infinity: thanks
[10:37] <Laney> I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/1688516
[10:37] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1688516 in Auto Package Testing "No way to mark a test as 'accepted regression'" [Undecided,New]
[10:40] <infinity> Laney: That sounds like a reasonable feature.  I'd bikeshed the key as "force-failtest" to match badtest and skiptest, though.
[10:41] <Laney> Makes sense
[10:59] <apw> infinity, that was the name i came up with too
[11:01] <infinity> apw: Fools seldom differ.
[11:01] <apw> so very true, and we are that :)
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron-lbaas (yakkety-proposed/universe) [2:9.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 2:9.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[12:29] <ginggs> location-service has migrated, can src:boost1.61 be removed from artful please?
[12:36] <apw> won't that show up automatically on the nbs report if you are right it is no longer needed
[12:37] <apw> no i am mixing my metaphors, ignore me
[12:38] <apw> (it is not the same source)
[12:38] <infinity> ginggs: Be a bit more patient for it to stop showing up in reverse-depends.
[12:38] <apw> that
[12:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [3.13.0-119.166]
[12:46]  * ginggs waits patiently
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cgroup-lite [source] (trusty-backports) [1.11~ubuntu14.04.3]
[12:56] <apw> ^ duplicate in the queue
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-ext-pack [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.1.22-2~17.04.1]
[13:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-guest-additions-iso [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.1.22-1~17.04.1]
[13:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: chrome-gnome-shell (xenial-proposed/universe) [8-2ubuntu4~ubuntu16.04.1 => 9-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.2] (no packageset)
[13:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: chrome-gnome-shell (yakkety-proposed/universe) [8-2ubuntu4~ubuntu16.10.1 => 9-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10] (no packageset)
[13:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: chrome-gnome-shell (zesty-proposed/universe) [8.2.1-1ubuntu1 => 9-0ubuntu1~ubuntu17.04] (ubuntugnome)
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apt (xenial-proposed/main) [1.2.20 => 1.2.22] (core)
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[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apt (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.3.5 => 1.3.7] (core)
[14:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nova (yakkety-proposed/main) [2:14.0.4-0ubuntu1.2 => 2:14.0.5-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[14:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-perftools (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.4-0ubuntu5 => 2.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-server)
[14:34] <LocutusOfBorg> soooo somebody please kick boost1.61 out from Ubuntu? :)
[14:35] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, still showing up in reverse-depends
[14:35] <LocutusOfBorg> nah
[14:35] <LocutusOfBorg> location-service is fixed and migrated one hour ago
[14:36] <LocutusOfBorg>  ubuntu-location-service-bin | 3.0.0+16.10.20160912-0ubuntu3 | artful/universe  | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el
[14:36] <apw> and it is still showing up in reverse speends
[14:36] <apw> presuambly because it is out of date, and one wants it to be in date
[14:36] <LocutusOfBorg> a mistake in my upload or I just need to wait?
[14:37] <LocutusOfBorg> ah ok :(
[14:37] <LocutusOfBorg> s/:(/:)
[14:37] <LocutusOfBorg> (dear, isn't this a fork bomb?)
[14:37] <apw> till the location poop goes away one cannot tell what all else in there is a lie
[14:37] <LocutusOfBorg> seems legit
[14:38] <LocutusOfBorg> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/boost1.62.html
[14:38] <LocutusOfBorg> this page is good now
[14:38] <LocutusOfBorg> this is why I requested it
[14:38] <LocutusOfBorg> but I'll prod again when reverse-depends is happy
[14:39] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, right i am sure it is good, but either i have to work it out myself, or i can ignore it for an hour and let reverse-depends sort it out
[14:39] <LocutusOfBorg> I prefer the latter
[14:39] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[14:54] <jamespage> o/
[14:54] <jamespage> the MIR for vine is blocking quite a large number of packages in artful-proposed related to OpenStack
[14:54] <jamespage> via http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#python-amqp
[14:55] <jamespage> if soneone in the MIR team has cycles to review that would be awesome:
[14:55] <jamespage> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#python-amqp
[14:55] <jamespage> bug 1688091
[14:55] <ubot5`> bug 1688091 in vine (Ubuntu) "[MIR] vine" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1688091
[14:57] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, when you are back from VAC, something for you :) LP: #1669578 your opinion is needed :p
[14:57] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1669578 in screen (Ubuntu) "Get ttyname() to work properly in containers" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1669578
[15:08] <nacc> slangasek: i think that's intentional, in case someone does remove php-defaults, php7.1-xml, e.g., will still satisfy php-xml depends? I'll ask ondrej though
[15:30] <cyphermox> slangasek: fwiw, I see trusty's shim update is still in the queue for review, not even in proposed.
[15:57] <slangasek> nacc: it may be intentional but it's still busted (and inconsistent across different modules built from php7.x)
[15:58] <nacc> slangasek: ack, do you have handy an example of a binpkg that doesn't do that? the few i looked at did it like php7.1-xml
[15:59] <slangasek> nacc: uh... ok maybe they all do it but germinate walked a different path in some cases.  I was assuming the bins we did successfully demote didn't have this problem but spot check says they do also
[15:59] <slangasek> nacc: anyway, it's super confusing to have a metapackage that depends on a real package that provides the metapackage
[15:59] <slangasek> cyphermox: is the shim in trusty queue current wrt the last round of xenial+ changes?
[16:00] <nacc> slangasek: yeah it's confusing, i agree :)
[16:00] <nacc> slangasek: i'll work with ondrej on it in debian
[16:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kexec-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:2.0.10-1ubuntu2.2]
[16:13] <LocutusOfBorg> please also review vbox* yakkety? I just setup my VM to test
[16:13] <LocutusOfBorg> qpga
[16:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted iproute2 [source] (xenial-proposed) [4.3.0-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:23]  * apw looks at vbox
[16:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted iproute2 [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4.3.0-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:33] <cyphermox> slangasek: as far as I know, only missing your extra apport changes.
[16:36] <slangasek> cyphermox: ok
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted google-perftools [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted google-perftools [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.4-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron-lbaas [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2:9.0.0-0ubuntu2]
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: e-mem [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.0+20160706-1] (no packageset)
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: node-create-hash [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.1.2+20170429gitd433cd382e6-1] (no packageset)
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: node-verror [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.10.0-1] (no packageset)
[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: e-mem [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [0.0+20160706-1] (no packageset)
[17:23] <santa_> hi
[17:24] <santa_> dear release managers,
[17:24] <santa_> may I poke you about the kdepim new reviews?
[17:24] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/applications_archive/16.12.3_artful_retry_builds.pdf
[17:24] <santa_> ↑ it would be nice if we could get this flying spaggheti monster built
[17:25] <santa_> if we need to correct something in our packaging, just let us know, so we will correct it
[17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-software [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.22.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:30] <jbicha> ^ oh, I guess that's going to clobber the other gnome-software/zesty SRU :(
[17:31] <jbicha> is it too late now to promote the older verified one?
[17:39] <jbicha> slangasek: ^
[17:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted e-mem [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.0+20160706-1]
[17:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-create-hash [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.1.2+20170429gitd433cd382e6-1]
[17:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted e-mem [i386] (artful-proposed) [0.0+20160706-1]
[17:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-verror [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.10.0-1]
[17:56] <xnox> Laney, did you review that removals package list? I will start working on filing removal bugs.
[18:01] <jbicha> that's a lot of bugs…
[18:20] <slangasek> jbicha: it's technically not too late, but AIUI this is a high-priority regression for the desktop team and so I'm ok with also pushing out both SRUs on Monday-ish
[18:21] <slangasek> jbicha: (I don't really want to release an SRU on Friday, so...)
[18:22] <jbicha> ok, that's fine with me
[18:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted keystone [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:9.3.0-0ubuntu1]
[19:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: aodh (yakkety-proposed/main) [3.0.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 3.0.2-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[19:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceilometer (yakkety-proposed/main) [1:7.0.2-0ubuntu1 => 1:7.0.3-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinder (yakkety-proposed/main) [2:9.1.2-0ubuntu2 => 2:9.1.4-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (yakkety-proposed/main) [3:10.0.2-0ubuntu1 => 3:10.0.3-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: heat (yakkety-proposed/main) [1:7.0.2-0ubuntu1 => 1:7.0.3-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron-fwaas (yakkety-proposed/main) [1:9.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 1:9.0.1-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[20:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (yakkety-proposed/main) [2:9.2.0-0ubuntu2 => 2:9.3.1-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
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[21:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: x265 [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.4-1] (kubuntu)
[21:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: x265 [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.4-1] (kubuntu)
[21:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: x265 [arm64] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.4-1] (kubuntu)
[21:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: x265 [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.4-1] (kubuntu)
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[21:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: x265 [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [2.4-1] (kubuntu)
[21:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-initramfs-tools (trusty-proposed/main) [0.25ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 0.25ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-server)
[21:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-initramfs-tools (xenial-proposed/main) [0.27ubuntu1.3 => 0.27ubuntu1.4] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server)
[21:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-initramfs-tools (yakkety-proposed/main) [0.30ubuntu1.1 => 0.30ubuntu1.2] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server)


[02:21] <Madpilot> anyone here? how do I change the email address my Ubuntu wiki/doc-list stuff comes to?
[02:56] <Madpilot> anyone able to tell me how to change my email address for the -docs list?
[03:07] <mpt> Madpilot: Look at the List-Info header for any mailing list message you receive
[03:07] <Madpilot> mpt: thanks
[04:03] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco
[04:03] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:06] <Burgundavia> salut robitaille
[04:07] <robitaille> hello Burgundavia
[04:07] <jsgotangco> hmm im beginning to like OOo 2
[04:08] <jsgotangco> hmm i didnt know there was a kubuntu shop
[04:09] <robitaille> Burgundavia:  to continue on a discussion from the other night, here is the blog entry from joey hess about Ubuntu I mentioned: http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/ubuntu_braindump-2004-10-21-00-43.html
[04:10] <robitaille> jsgotangco:  happy birthday!
[04:10] <jsgotangco> robitaille, thanks
[04:13] <Burgundavia> robitaille, thanks for the info
[04:13] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, Madpilot, myself and robitaille got together the other night at Madpilot's place
[04:15] <Burgundavia> is the wiki down for anyone else?
[04:15] <Madpilot> yeah, the first Victoria Ubuntu meet - it was good to meet robitaille & spread cat5 all over my living room (no wireless here...)
[04:15] <jsgotangco> oohh so you finally had your first loco meeting
[04:15] <Madpilot> the wiki works fine here, Burgundavia
[04:15] <jsgotangco> our first loco meeting didnt have any computers at all (just beer)
[04:15] <Madpilot> we had computers but no beer (I was out...)
[04:15] <Madpilot> ;)
[04:16] <jsgotangco> robitaille, i've read this before somewhere..hmmm
[04:19] <jsgotangco> is it a good idea to show the latest breezy crack in a linuxworld talk?
[04:19] <Burgundavia> ok, now it works
[04:19] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, absolutely
[04:20] <robitaille> Madpilot:  ah...that's why I had to beg for water a couple of hours in the meeting :)
[04:20] <robitaille> a Victoria loco team has a nice ring to it :)
[04:21] <Madpilot> robitaille: heh. sorry about that - I was getting pretty dry from all the talking myself by the time you all left
[04:22] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia, what's our showstopper features? Gnome 2.12, OOo 2, KDE 3.x, LTSP, anything more?
[04:22] <Burgundavia> QuickTourDraft?
[04:22] <jsgotangco> right
[04:22] <robitaille> Evince!
[04:23] <jsgotangco> well i can't fit all those in one slide
[04:23] <jsgotangco> robitaille, Evince is part of 2.12
[04:23] <Madpilot> laptop support?
[04:23] <jsgotangco> Madpilot, right
[04:23] <jsgotangco> (with emphasis on rigorous testing)
[04:23] <Burgundavia> I got the basic html/css stuff going last night
[04:23] <Burgundavia> be porting the contents tonight and then into SVN RSN
[04:24] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: want to send me the HTML/CSS for a look & polishing?
[04:28] <Burgundavia> is one my laptop
[04:28] <Burgundavia> just a sec
[04:29] <jsgotangco> does anyone know what version of KDE we are shipping
[04:29] <Burgundavia> 3.4.2
[04:29] <jsgotangco> gotcha confirmed
[04:31] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: if you're going to send me the HTML/CSS, pls send to my gmail addy (or have you already?)
[04:32] <Burgundavia> not yet
[04:32] <Burgundavia> I will go offline for a short while
[04:57] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:58] <Burgundavia> cool
[04:58] <Burgundavia> maybe swap the order, so that adding it before how to make it?
[04:58] <Madpilot> good point
[05:18] <mpt> Anyone here know if NetworkManager is going to make Breezy?
[05:18] <mpt> I'm trying to write instructions on how to connect with WPA in NetworkManager-less system, and it's horrid
[05:25] <robitaille> is there an easy way to lock a wiki page.  People keep adding themselves to the end of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Requests
[05:28] <Madpilot> robitaille: maybe you should add a big piece of text at the top AND bottom of the page saying it's closed?
[05:29] <robitaille> Madpilot:  yeah...that's what I was thinking.  I'll make it obvious, and point them to the correct testing page.
[05:34] <jsgotangco> mpt, im afraid it was deferred since NM is still quite immature
[05:35] <mpt> woo. hoo.
[05:35] <mpt> ok
[05:35] <jsgotangco> mpt, i believe my baz experience is caused by an old version hence i upgraded
[05:36] <mpt> ah
[05:36] <mpt> Maybe you got the version in main because of my initial incorrect instructions
[05:36] <mpt> rather than the version on bazaar.canonical.com
[05:36] <jsgotangco> yes so basically 1.5 should address it (although i haven't tested yet)
[05:37] <mpt> robitaille: For goodness sake, the page still says "we'll be sending some machines to community members". Before adding big text to the top and bottom, why not just fix the out-of-date info? :-)
[05:39] <mpt> not to mention complaining that people are adding themselves to the bottom of a table where the page says "please add yourself to the table below"
[05:40] <jsgotangco> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeFoot -> are we doing this in Breezy?
[05:41] <Madpilot> I"ve already done it to my Hoary install, just for fun
[05:41] <jsgotangco> i believe mpt griped about it after hoary got released
[05:42] <Madpilot> actually, I should edit GnomeFoot, because the Ubuntu forums have an easier way of doing it...
[05:45] <robitaille> mpt:  first line in bold characters: "This pages is left for the archive. At the current time, no new people will be accepted"
[05:46] <robitaille> personally I would be tempted to simply delete it...
[05:46] <jsgotangco> err where is the temp cache of firefox?
[05:47] <mpt> robitaille: Even so, no point in having it self-contradictory
[05:47] <mpt> but I've fixed the page now
[05:47] <robitaille> jsgotangco:  ~/.mozilla/firefox/[something random] /Cache
[05:48] <mpt> robitaille: Is there a separate page listing the people who actually got the laptops? (As opposed to the entire laptop testing team?)
[05:49] <Madpilot> mpt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[05:50] <mpt> ah, so the page can be nuked then
[05:50] <mpt> I second your proposal robitaille
[05:50] <mpt> Do we have a thirder?
[05:54] <Burgundavia> mpt, Nm will not make Breezy
[05:54] <Burgundavia> mpt, code is not mature enough. Expect it for +1
[05:55] <Madpilot> mpt: you mean nuke the whole /Requests page?
[05:55] <mpt> Madpilot: yes
[05:56] <mpt> Burgundavia: Do you concur?

[05:56] <robitaille> Madpilot: yes.  It is there only for historical purposes.  People keep adding themselves even with the warnings.  And anyway we now have to add big bold links to the LaptopTestingTeam page
[05:56] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, mpt nuke the existing content and leave it as "Requests are closed"
[05:59] <mpt> 'tis done.
[06:00] <Burgundavia> http://verbosio.mozdev.org/
[06:01] <mpt> Darn, I thought you were pointing to some cool plug-in for helping writers pare down their words
[06:43] <Burgundavia> grr
[06:43] <Burgundavia> xchat doesn't handle the network going away very well
[06:46] <Madpilot> what are you doing? swapping one plug back and forth between desktop & laptop?
[06:47] <HrdwrBoB> hey
[06:47] <HrdwrBoB> some people can't afford network cables
[06:50] <Madpilot> routers are a good thing, too (but not very cheap, and they've stayed expensive while other stuff gets cheaper...)
[06:50] <Burgundavia> yes
[06:50] <Burgundavia> I have lots of cable
[06:50] <Burgundavia> should string it now
[06:52] <Madpilot> man - cheapest 10/100 router I can see at either of my usual online comp stores is ~$50 Cdn
[06:52] <Madpilot> which is exactly what I paid for mine two-three years ago... ick
[07:05] <mpt> ok, silly question
[07:05] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, you can get cheaper. 24 for a wired one
[07:05] <mpt> Where should my GPG fingerprint and public key live?
[07:05] <Burgundavia> hmm
[07:05] <Burgundavia> .gpg?
[07:05] <Burgundavia> .gnupg
[07:05] <mpt> what's the exact filename? :-)
[07:06] <rob^> .gnupg
[07:06] <Burgundavia> secring.gpg?
[07:06] <rob^> look at the files under there
[07:06] <mpt> yes, I've already got that far
[07:07] <rob^> cant you just import the key?
[07:07] <mpt> I guess so
[07:07] <Burgundavia> mpt, seahorse is a nice gui program to handle keys
[07:07] <mpt> why didn't I think of that
[07:08] <mpt> thanks rob^ and Burgundavia
[07:08] <rob^> http://webber.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html#toc8
[07:08] <rob^> thats a good howto
[07:09] <rob^> umm elmo takes care of svn access doesn't he?
[07:09] <Burgundavia> indeed
[07:09] <rob^> I need a new password
[07:09] <Burgundavia> ping him
[07:10] <rob^> hes not here
[07:10] <Burgundavia> he is in -devel
[07:10] <rob^> yeah
[07:10] <rob^> I just noticed
[07:11] <mpt> ffs
[07:12] <Madpilot> mpt: you mean the virtual desktop switcher? :)
[07:13] <mpt> yes
[07:13] <rob^> heh
[07:13] <Burgundavia> mpt, I used to think that the virtual desktop thingy was bad for new users, but then I saw the feedback we got when it was suggest we remove it
[07:13] <Burgundavia> mpt, now I think I need more empirical evidence
[07:14] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: in other words, you need to see how Andrea reacts to it?
[07:14] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, ya
[07:14] <Madpilot> badly, I'm thinking
[07:14] <Burgundavia> and more
[07:14] <Burgundavia> I don't know that
[07:15] <mpt> Burgundavia: I;m very used to that kind of feedback
[07:15] <Burgundavia> the thread that was started about it suggested that virtual desktops were easier to understand than main task bars
[07:15] <Burgundavia> mpt, regardless, I would like to see more useful feedback
[07:15] <mpt> I guess the Firefox maintainers are too
[07:15] <Burgundavia> other than people saying "it is not useful"
[07:15] <Burgundavia> mpt, tabbed browsing?
[07:16] <mpt> no, things like everything people want to add to the context menus
[07:16] <Burgundavia> the context menus in FF are total crack
[07:16] <mpt> yeah
[07:17] <mpt> they should have just followed my spec :-)
[07:17] <mpt> but, they're not as bad as those in the Mozilla suite were.
[07:17] <Burgundavia> 12 items by default?
[07:17] <mpt> the Firefox devs have had a lot of practice at saying "no"
[07:17] <Burgundavia> indeed
[07:17] <mpt> as can be seen in their original manifesto
[07:18] <mpt> And I would disagree with people saying virtual desktops are "not useful"
[07:18] <mpt> I'm sure they are useful, for some people
[07:18] <mpt> but not for the sort of people who don't have the skill and courage to configure stuff like that
[07:19] <mpt> therefore they should be something you turn on, not something you turn off
[07:19] <Burgundavia> one major flaw with the desktop switcher is that it doesn
[07:19] <Madpilot> in Breezy are they on or off by default?
[07:19] <Burgundavia> t show you what application is focused on that desktop
[07:19] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, on
[07:19] <mpt> on
[07:20] <Burgundavia> likely one of the major discussions at Montreal
[07:22] <mpt> Was anything like that discussed at Sydney?
[07:22] <Burgundavia> no idea, ask jerome
[07:23] <mpt> The Ubuntu default panel setup could do with a fair bit of improvement
[07:23] <Burgundavia> we don't change much from default
[07:23] <Burgundavia> s/default/upstream default
[07:28] <mpt> hmm, gpg doesn't trust it
[07:28] <mpt> that could be a problem
[07:28] <rob^> check out that howto
[07:41] <rob^> hey, I just sent a patch for the faq guide to the list due to not having commit access until elmo resets my password, can someone apply it for me
[07:44] <Burgundavia> rob^, quite coincidentally, I was just thinking about documenting gstreamer-plugins-multiveres
[07:45] <rob^> yeah, I was doing some asking around
[07:45] <rob^> I asked about gstreamer0.8-lame not being there
[07:46] <rob^> 2 days later it was
[07:48] <rob^> grr I'm having some real issues with cdrecord
[07:50] <rob^> blanking cdrw's isn't working
[10:53] <jsgotangco> hey all
[10:53] <rob^> hey
[10:55] <jsgotangco> rob^: so you did loose your account
[10:57] <rob^> no
[10:58] <rob^> just didn't write down my password and had to do a reinstall
[10:59] <mdke> uhoh
[10:59] <mdke> still got your key?
[10:59] <rob^> nup
[11:00] <rob^> lost that too
[11:00] <rob^> I was playing with my fonts and broke something
[11:00] <mdke> oh no
[11:00] <rob^> it was late.. I wasn't thinking.
[11:00] <mdke> always backup your key
[11:01] <mdke> have you got a revocation cert.
[11:01] <rob^> maybe..
[11:01] <rob^> I did make one
[11:01] <mdke> ok cool
[11:01] <mdke> well for now we are happy to apply your patches
[11:01] <mdke> its no problem
[11:02] <rob^> hmm I must have nuked that too
[11:02] <mdke> i'll bbl
[11:02] <mdke> sorry I haven't done any reviewing of the faqguide yet
[11:02] <rob^> thats ok
[11:03] <mdke> i'm moving house so it's gonna be a bit tricky right now
[11:03] <jsgotangco> hey mdke
[11:03] <jsgotangco> im quite busy myself
[11:03] <mdke> jsgotangco, hi, i'm just on my way off
[11:03] <jsgotangco> i have yet to finish my slides
[11:04] <rob^> any one have any idea how to flip upside down and inverse a video?
[11:04] <rob^> we recorded an install using vmware, but it turned out weard
[11:14] <jsgotangco> i'll review your docs later
[11:14] <rob^> cool
[11:18] <jsgotangco> hmm
[11:18] <jsgotangco> i see you have made an Ubuntu presentation before
[11:18] <rob^> yep
[11:18] <rob^> :)
[11:18] <jsgotangco> i need it for LinuxWorld
[11:18] <jsgotangco> hehe
[11:18] <rob^> cool go right ahead
[12:36] <klepas> moin moin
[12:37] <rob^> .
[12:37] <Madpilot> ?
[12:38] <rob^> "
[12:38] <Madpilot> |
[12:38] <rob^> !
[12:38] <rob^> yay lets chew logs
[12:39] <klepas> hey guys
[12:39] <rob^> hi
[12:39] <Madpilot> someone from the UK just created this quite, quite clueless page on getting to the Montreal confrence: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBelowZero/TravelHints
[12:39] <rob^> heh
[12:40] <Madpilot> there isn't any point in flying to Halifax if you're going to Montreal, it's still another 2+ hrs by air Halifax->Montreal...
[12:40] <Madpilot> I'm not sure how impolite I should be in pointing this out...
[12:41] <rob^> just add it to the page....
[12:41] <Madpilot> am doing that - trying to get Air Canada's useless website to work with Opera to get actual travel times...
[12:46] <klepas> do any of you folks know what happened to the art team as of late?
[12:57] <klepas> anyone home?
[12:58] <Madpilot> hi
[10:01] <mpt> Burgundavia, NetworkManager wiki page seems to need updating :-)
[10:11] <Burgundavia> mpt, not surprised
[10:29] <Burgundavia> mpt, g-a-i is not a userfacing name
[10:30] <Burgundavia> mpt, and g-a-i is most there for SoftwareManager
[10:35] <mpt> "most there"?
[10:35] <Burgundavia> mostly there
[10:36] <Burgundavia> it needs some work with UI and some corner cases (multimedia codecs, etc.)
[10:40] <mpt> If there still needs to be two other graphical programs doing intersecting jobs, I'd disagree with that "mostly" :-)
[10:41] <Burgundavia> you think g-a-i should also do updating?
[10:41] <Burgundavia> that is not hard, just have a button inside it call the update manager
[10:41] <mpt> No, I think what I wrote in the spec
[10:42] <mpt> That doesn't solve the problem, it's still multiple interfaces
[10:42] <Burgundavia> hmm
[10:42] <mpt> This isn't like, say, Gimp, which can perform hugely complicated tasks, so you might reasonably ship a simple paint program as well (but notice that Ubuntu doesn't)
[10:43] <mpt> even installing and uninstalling packages is a pretty trivial task
[10:43] <Burgundavia> there is no simply paint program for linux
[10:53] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences?action=diff
[10:53] <Burgundavia> is that stuff in our svn?


[15:34] <PaulW2U> So who is taking care of the release this weekend? jose? pleia2?
[15:44] <jose> PaulW2U: half and half :D I'm doing both summary writers and editors, and Lyz is taking care of the release itself. I'm travelling all monday and she's on tour now, so we're dividing it :)
[15:44] <jose> PaulW2U: also, if you'd be down for training on how to release a UWN, I'd be more than glad to guide you through the process anytime soon
[15:48] <PaulW2U> Thanks jose, I like to know what's who is doing what. I get a little worried when I don't see anything happening and I know pleia2 is travelling.
[15:49] <PaulW2U> I did do one release but it did not go well as the wiki instructions weren't totally up-to-date.
[15:50] <jose> hehe, happens :)
[15:50] <jose> there's definitely room for improvement there. we can walk through it again and see what needs adding/editing/removing
[15:50] <jose> what do you think?
[15:50] <PaulW2U> But yes, I should really know how to do more even if it is only knowing how to send out the summary writers email :)
[15:51] <jose> it's all in a shared doc, so should be easy
[15:51] <PaulW2U> I'm thinking that some of the summary writers have lost interest as the email often gets sent very late.
[15:52] <PaulW2U> If you want to share some secrets then I'll be around until 2300 UTC :)
[15:53] <jose> it'd have to be another week, getting stuff ready for TXLF right now
[15:53] <jose> sorry about that
[15:53] <PaulW2U> No problem.


[00:11] <SteveH0> I had a harddrive crash and did a clean install of 12.04 mythbuntu.  On previous release, it was in one partition, and I figured that I would have a better chance of saving my programs if I kept prograams and data on separate partitions.  Now I can set schedules, but nothing records.  Before I repartition and reinstall, does anyone have troubleshooting steps that I could use to see why the...
[00:11] <SteveH0> ...programs aren't being recorded?
[00:12] <SteveH0> I partularly would like to verify that my permissions are set properly.
[03:35] <afm> fresh instal of mythbuntu 12.04…having some issues retrieving the lineups from schedules direct… went to manually add, and i notice there are only 2 mysql databases… mythconverg depricated now?  did i somehow miss a step?
[03:35] <afm> 2 default databases that is...
[03:40] <afm> where is my mythfilldatabase going?  heh or am i over thinking things
[10:40] <SteveH0> ...
[13:53] <afm> i can't for the life of me get retrieve lineups to work… manually pulling with tv_grab_na_dd --download-only --dd-data works just fine
[14:08] <afm> i tried editing the timeout on tv_find_grabbers, but it's still bombing after 15 seconds…  where else should i be looking?
[17:56] <qwebirc99789> Can someone please help me figure out why my MCE remote won't work with a new install of 10.04.2? I have tried 2 installs with different media, tried 2 different remotes and 2 different USB IR receivers with no luck. irw doesn't display any codes, and all of the modules seem to be loaded. My lsmod shows this: http://pastebin.com/aADzM8f4


[14:01] <fkd> removed systemd for eudev but mouse and keyboard (maybe poweroff button too) dont work in X is dbus the cause?
[21:19] <Brutus> hi, i've installed lubuntu in a vm. it's still pretty much at default settings. how do you turn on ssh?
[21:20] <wxl> if you mean ssh daemon, you need to install it
[21:20] <Brutus> oh right
[21:21] <Brutus> ok it's installed
[21:21] <Brutus> need to figure out this systemd stuff
[21:21] <wxl> by default it will start at boot
[21:22] <Brutus> ok trying that
[21:23] <Brutus> hmm that doesn't work. also can't ping it
[21:23] <wxl> if you can't ping it, might be a network issue and/or you're using the wrong ip
[21:23] <Brutus> well i can ping my laptop
[21:23] <wxl> usually there are virtual ips
[21:24] <wxl> the fact that it's a vm requires special attention
[21:24] <Brutus> i can update the vm, i can ping from the vm to other devices in my house
[21:24] <Brutus> i can ssh from the vm to my laptop


[06:37] <lissyx> hello
[07:02] <didrocks> good morning
[07:12] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[07:13] <lissyx> seb128, hello
[07:13] <lissyx> do we have news on launchpad ? :)
[07:15] <jbicha> good morning!
[07:16] <seb128> lissyx, hey, they have code changes proposed for review now on https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad-buildd/+git/launchpad-buildd/+merge/426459
[07:16] <didrocks> salut seb128, hey jbicha
[07:16] <lissyx> nice gift
[07:16] <seb128> lut didrocks, t'as passé un bon weekend?
[07:16] <seb128> jbicha, hey, how is Europe?
[07:17] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, au "frais" avant les deux semaines qui s’annoncent, et toi ?
[07:17] <seb128> didrocks, pareil, on est en France pour la plupart de l'été, dans le nord là, on en profite il fait bon pour l'instant :)
[07:18] <didrocks> ah, c’est cool ça :)
[07:18] <jbicha> it's amazing, the weather is wonderful, it's great to see mountains
[07:18] <seb128> jbicha, :-)
[07:19] <jbicha> it's a Muslim country so there's a morning call to prayer broadcast at like 4:30 am 🙂
[07:19] <lissyx> seb128, si tu passes par tours ... fais signe ... :)
[07:19] <seb128> lissyx, ça marche :)
[07:19] <jbicha> (Kosovo)
[07:20] <lissyx> seb128, so reading the changes it uploads next to the current snap file, so what I wrote for the snap lib should work
[07:20] <lissyx> seb128, do you know when this goes into prod ?
[07:21] <seb128> lissyx, yes
[07:21] <lissyx> and if we could do a dry run on firefox-snap and gnome-sdk with my changes ?
[07:21] <seb128> lissyx, needs to get reviewed and uploaded, I hope we can get that in place this week
[07:22] <seb128> then we can try with firefox during a test build, it doesn't need to be on the official channels
[07:22] <duflu> Hi lissyx, didrocks, jbicha, seb128, Europe, Africa...
[07:22] <seb128> hey duflu, did you have some nice tome away from the computer?
[07:23] <didrocks> welcome back duflu!
[07:23] <duflu> seb128, very productive even though I had a cold. Got a lot done. But still, many jobs around the house have been neglected for years so more spring cleaning will be needed
[07:24] <lissyx> seb128, yes as long as it's visible on the API it should work
[07:30] <seb128> jbicha, could you redo the gstreamer1.0-vaapi cherrypicking the fix rather than doing the version update? seems Steve doesn't want to accept the update...
[07:31] <jbicha> seb128: yes
[07:41] <seb128> thanks
[07:43] <lissyx> seb128, it seems like nobody cares about https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/831 ? do you know how we could get things to move?
[07:57] <KGB-2> evolution-data-server Jeremy Bicha 322747 * commented merge request !6 * https://deb.li/3VmAz
[08:00] <KGB-0> evolution-data-server signed tags 4dca44b Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/3.44.3-0ubuntu1 * evolution-data-server Debian release 3.44.3-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/DGxl
[08:08] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy f976229 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 16 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iil0e
[08:08] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy b88abcb Milan Crha CMakeLists.txt * Post-release version bump * https://deb.li/3NMH1
[08:08] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy cf74639 Milan Crha data/webkit/e-editor.js * I#1918 - Composer: Skip STYLE and other tags in convert to Plain Text * https://deb.li/RMmh
[08:09] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy f498b9c Milan Crha src/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * I#1919 - Drag&Drop creates many identical temporary files * https://deb.li/3qZQc
[08:09] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy 93007a6 Milan Crha src/em-format/e-mail-stripsig-filter.c * EMailStripSigFilter: Make sure it doesn't read out of buffer bounds * https://deb.li/3ixuC
[08:09] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy 1126cc9 Christian Kirbach help/de/de.po * Update German translation * https://deb.li/i2JSG
[08:16] <KGB-2> evolution signed tags 622187f Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/3.44.3-0ubuntu1 * evolution Debian release 3.44.3-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3DKkd
[08:16] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy 4210039 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 8 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/B45F
[08:16] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy 2c1eada Pascal Nowack src/grd-rdp-network-autodetection.c * rdp/nw-auto: Turn assertion into normal conditional statement * https://deb.li/3TLZ1
[08:17] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy 3bac20c Pascal Nowack src/grd-session-rdp.c * session-rdp: Use trivial boolean value for condition in graphics thread * https://deb.li/LL9h
[08:17] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy df50dcf Pascal Nowack src/grd-rdp-graphics-pipeline.c * rdp-graphics-pipeline: Fix uninitialized caps mutex * https://deb.li/3qNWc
[08:17] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy 9bb8f2f Pascal Nowack src/grd-egl-thread.c * egl-thread: Release EGL context before destroying it * https://deb.li/3imXC
[08:17] <KGB-0> gnome-remote-desktop ubuntu/jammy 73b9f00 Jonas Ådahl meson.build * build: Bump version to 42.3 * https://deb.li/iQ4LG
[08:17] <enyc> Ooooh activity =)
[08:18] <enyc> tjaalton suggested I ask here while tjaalton away
[08:20] <jbicha> maybe they aren't away now?
[08:22] <enyc> Specifically:  xserver-xorg-video-ati_19.1.0-3_amd64.deb   xserver-xorg-video-radeon_19.1.0-3_amd64.deb   from kinetic  are a tiny patch to the buggy version in jammy/22.04LTS:    fix-rotation.diff: Fix crash on rotation. (Closes: #1009325) (LP: #1970473)
[08:22] <jbicha> right, I'll let him answer your request for that to be SRUd to jammy
[08:23] <enyc> In every way I can tell, this works and stops xserver crashing when you xrandr rotate a display, in a way I'm surprised not more noise about this bug, it affects a huge range of usable pre-amdgpu radeon video cards.
[08:23] <enyc> Hoping  ubuntu-Desktop  team can initiate an SRU or so?
[08:24] <enyc> jbicha: "< tjaalton> but I'm off next two weeks"
[08:25] <enyc> (this was on ~friday)
[08:30] <seb128> sounds like a potential candidate for a SRU yes, even if screen rotation isn't something most users are doing
[08:34] <jbicha> enyc: were you wanting to prepare the SRU yourself?
[08:43] <enyc> jbicha: might create one if nobody more experinced to do it,  alas in various IRL messes myself at the moment
[08:45] <enyc> jbicha: would however definitely test whatever SRU-package or however it works
[08:45] <jbicha> enyc: ok, I'll take a look at it then. I would definitely need your help later to verify that it works on Jammy, later
[08:48] <enyc> seb128: I see a lot of desktop setups using one or two screen rotated, very useful "reading things" -- of course ''coders'' do that but not limited to.
[08:48] <enyc> lots of common dell-stands have built in rotate etc
[09:11] <seb128> enyc, right, I'm not denying it has use, it's only that we got few reports for it so far
[10:00] <lissyx> seb128, one question: $SNAPCRAFT_PROJECT_NAME_$SNAPCRAFT_PROJECT_VERSION_$SNAP_ARCH.debug
[10:00] <lissyx> seb128, this generated "git" as version
[10:00] <lissyx> -rw-r--r-- 1 alexandre alexandre 275M 11 juil. 11:45 gnome-3-38-2004-sdk_0+git.8d932e5_amd64.snap
[10:00] <lissyx> -rw-r--r-- 1 alexandre alexandre  87M 11 juil. 11:45 gnome-3-38-2004-sdk_git_amd64.debug
[10:00] <lissyx> but the snap itself is correctly named
[10:01] <seb128> lissyx, does that require quotes maybe?
[10:02] <enyc> seb128: what I'm saying is I'm surprised so few apparent reports...  maybe the sort of users who go away and get something else  or don't know to dig into ubuntu bugs  or using derivative distros and complaining there etc... ;o
[10:03] <lissyx> seb128, I dont think it's properly expanded from $SNAPCRAFT_PROJECT_VERSION to "git"
[10:05] <seb128> lissyx, weird
[10:05] <seb128> ah
[10:05] <lissyx> and the build log shows
[10:05] <lissyx> + find . -type d -empty -delete
[10:05] <lissyx> Determining the version from the project repo (version: git).
[10:05] <lissyx> The version has been set to '0+git.8d932e5'
[10:05] <lissyx> Snapping |
[10:05] <lissyx> Snapped gnome-3-38-2004-sdk_0+git.8d932e5_amd64.snap
[10:10] <seb128> lissyx, I don't remember what magic snapcraft is doing there :/
[10:11] <seb128> jbicha, ^ do you remember?
[10:14] <seb128> lissyx, https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/use-git-version-during-build-stage-downloading-pre-built-apps
[10:14] <seb128> similar issue there
[10:17] <jbicha> lissyx: here's an example for a similar method: https://github.com/ubuntu/epiphany/blob/stable/snapcraft.yaml#L123-L125
[11:09] <lissyx> ok I'll test that
[11:12] <lissyx> https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/blob/a61c6032a7641036fac78544df316198c43a5d8b/snapcraft/utils.py#L312-L314
[11:43] <lissyx> seb128, that's going to be a source of trouble
[11:43] <lissyx> seb128, because I end up with a snap and a debug file that dont have the same name
[11:45] <lissyx> so I need to rename it when I produce it
[11:49] <lissyx> I have something but it's ugly :[
[13:01] <KGB-0> epiphany-browser signed tags 2c3fef9 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42.2 * Upstream version 42.2 * https://deb.li/itN5V
[13:01] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest c003bd0 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 6 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/VkC
[13:01] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 105d254 Asier Sarasua Garmendia po/eu.po * Update Basque translation * https://deb.li/3OxqG
[13:01] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 6aab17c Asier Sarasua Garmendia help/eu/eu.po * Update Basque translation * https://deb.li/bMZc
[13:01] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 748d06f Michael Catanzaro lib/ephy-string.c * Fix memory corruption in ephy_string_shorten() * https://deb.li/3vDoy
[13:01] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 54a3d57 Michael Catanzaro src/popup-commands.c * Revert "popup-commands: Stop using gtk_native_dialog_run() for downloads" * https://deb.li/hZWd
[13:01] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 8dd7d3e Michael Catanzaro NEWS data/org.gnome.Epiphany.appdata.xml.in.in meson.build * Prepare 42.2 * https://deb.li/3C88V
[13:02] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser pristine-tar 22fbc28 Jeremy Bicha epiphany-browser_42.2.orig.tar.xz.delta epiphany-browser_42.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for epiphany-browser_42.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/oJL1
[14:49] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser signed tags 231a281 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42.3 * Upstream version 42.3 * https://deb.li/2Ysz
[14:50] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 75d2649 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 12 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3HiFs
[14:50] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 8c103d7 Alexandre Franke po/fr.po * Update French translation * https://deb.li/8sUv
[14:50] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 11d45f8 Pawan Chitrakar po/ne.po * Update Nepali translation * https://deb.li/3N71n
[14:50] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest c0ef876 Aleksandr Melman po/ru.po * Update Russian translation * https://deb.li/R7ne
[14:50] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest 177b618 Sabri Ünal po/tr.po * Update Turkish translation * https://deb.li/3zYd0
[14:50] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser upstream/latest fe1df3c Davide Ferracin help/ LINGUAS it/it.po * Add Italian translation * https://deb.li/33S7A
[14:50] <KGB-2> epiphany-browser pristine-tar d799feb Jeremy Bicha epiphany-browser_42.3.orig.tar.xz.delta epiphany-browser_42.3.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for epiphany-browser_42.3.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/37YzD
[14:53] <seb128> jbicha, did you want to handle that ati rotation bug SRU or should I do it? I've a slot now
[14:54] <jbicha> seb128: I didn't start on it so you're welcome to grab it. thanks
[14:54] <seb128> jbicha, k, doing so
[15:25] <lissyx> seb128, so this is kinda ugly but it works and it should be safer than hardcoding the git command in case GitSource evolve: https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-sdk/pull/38/files#diff-e68b9afd67bb77dec8eda77796d3e0b784c7011203114996383eed6533be0cefR1149
[15:26] <lissyx> and now i have local processing of firefox-snap snap+debug as well as gnome-sdk snap+debug to generate what we need to upload :)
[15:27] <seb128> great
[15:27] <lissyx> bugs apart, we should have the tooling end-to-end