[17:51] <dysuki> deego, i thought you had to use yum .. sorry, hten how should i install it
[17:51] <deego> installed?
[17:51] <mojtaba> Hi, After upgrading to 13.10, there is a light display manager at the login page and it does not accept my password. Does anybody know what is it? and what is its password? Also after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[17:51] <dysuki> yep im sure
[17:51] <deego> dysuki: how?
[17:51] <oal> Is it possible to hide the top menu bar (clock etc) on the second monitor in Ubuntu?
[17:51] <oal> It's the same on both monitors, and I don't need it twice
[17:51] <dysuki> -bash: apt-get: command not found
[17:51] <dysuki> "which apt-get"
[17:51] <dysuki> returns nothing
[17:51] <deego> dysuki: try /usr/bin/apt-get
[17:51] <crundar> jrib: k1l_ that's so much you all.  and so on, how do I unlock my home directory.  I just want to get my data off that partition, and then start over
[17:52] <dysuki> [root@main]# more /etc/issue
[17:52] <dysuki> CentOS release 6.4 (Final)
[17:52] <dysuki> Kernel \r on an \m
[17:52] <rafael_> Hacking users of XChat now with Ubuntu 13.10.
[17:52] <deego> lol
[17:52] <dysuki> thought it was unbuntu it's centos
[17:52] <dysuki> shame
[17:52] <dysuki> im embarrased
[17:53] <deego> lolol, no need to be embarassed :)
[17:53] <deego> nice guess auronandace  :)
[17:53] <DenSaakalte> I see myself having to do a clean reinstall ONCE again because it's the same problem I had before, Ubuntu 13.10 has serious problems to recognize the Sandybridge card and I keep getting errors, I can't deal with it
[17:53] <crundar> I've made special modifications to my bluetooth-rules and xorg.conf files. Should I be expecting any trouble as a result of upgrading?
[17:53] <dysuki> yes auronandace, thanks
[17:54] <k1l_> crundar: hard to tell
[17:54] <dysuki> ok os should i leave this channel with my tail between my legs?
[17:54] <dysuki> so*
[17:54] <deego> and equivalently, hitsujiTMO :)
[17:54] <crundar> It's also telling me that it's disabled some of the third-party entries in my sources.list file. Is that automatic/expected, or indicative of some particular incompatibility with that repo?
[17:54] <deego> dysuki: No no, ditch those reds. install ubuntu :)
[17:54] <crundar> oh wow. jesus. already done updating.
[17:54] <k1l_> crundar: PPAs get disabled for the upgrade
[17:54] <crundar> see you all on the other side (I hope)
[17:54] <auronandace> dysuki: you are welcome to stay and watch or help people with ubuntu issues
[17:54] <dysuki> cant working under certain confines
[17:54] <deego> ah
[17:55] <dysuki> auronandace, i think i just might :-)
[17:55] <basichash> How can I download torrents in terminal?
[17:55] <reisio> basichash: aria2c is good for one-offs
[17:55] <crundar> oh, not done yet. not done by a long shot.
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> basichash: install transmission-daemon
[17:55] <reisio> aria2, that is (the executable is aria2c)
[17:56] <basichash> thanks
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> basichash: or transmission-cli sorry
[17:56] <Pinch97> Hi
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> basichash: transmission-daemon provides a web based interface
[17:57] <reisio> Pinch97: hi
[17:57] <basichash> hitsujiTMO: no worries, cheers
[17:58] <Pinch97> Can someone help. I tried to install 13.10 alongside windows 7 but when it restarted my pc it said the installation had failed.
[17:58] <pfifo> is ubuntu cloud free?
[17:58] <streulma> hello, is there someone here that can help me with my problem? First of all I have a Dell Vostro 1720. But with 12.04 LTS it has problems with the video card.
[17:59] <mojtaba> Hi, After upgrading to 13.10, there is a light display manager at the login page and it does not accept my password. Does anybody know what is it? and what is its password? Also after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[18:00] <Logan_> mojtaba: I can answer your former question about the Light Display Manager user. It's a bug that needs to be fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1235785
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: as in ubuntu one,   or http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud ?
[18:01] <dysuki> deego, does ubuntu come with apt-get by default? if so, im going to install it right now
[18:01] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: what ever is being offered here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud
[18:01] <dysuki> deego, confies have suddenly changed :-[
[18:01] <dysuki> :-p
[18:01] <basichash> How can I order files by creation date?
[18:02] <deego> dysuki: yes it does.
[18:02] <rafael_> hi
[18:02] <deego> dysuki: fyi the name of the pkg is apt. It provides commands such as apt-get and apt-cache.
[18:02] <rafael_> hi
[18:02] <UrielVigilant> i do : sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree  , and i get : " not able to fin package...
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo: thats just ubuntu server ... its prob referring to maas and juju which are free
[18:02] <dysuki> deego, thanks
[18:02] <yeats> !find linux-firmware-nonfree
[18:03] <jmgk> hm
[18:03] <Pinch97> I tried to install 13.10 alongside windows 7 but when it restarted my pc it said the installation had failed.
[18:03] <mojtaba> Hi after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[18:03] <deego> UrielVigilant: check your sources.list
[18:03] <yeats> !info linux-firmware-nonfree
[18:03] <UrielVigilant> i do :   sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer , and i get no able to find package , iam with ubuntu 13.10 pen usb persiten mode
[18:03] <rafael_> t50
[18:03] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: in my mind 'cloud' means a large amount of computers... if I install ubuntu cloud... im I connecting my computer to someone elses computers?
[18:04] <yeats> UrielVigilant: deego is right - sounds like you're missing a repo
[18:04] <UrielVigilant> yeats: how do i do that
[18:04] <streulma> how can I run Windows 7 in Ubuntu virtually ?
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> pfifo, you can use maas and juju to install and manage your own cloud system
[18:04] <UrielVigilant> i already did : sudo apt-get update
[18:04] <Patero-ng> I have 2 images of a game and I know one of them is corrupt and the other one isn't I have the right hash number but I want to know how to see if a certain file belongs to that hash, both files have the same file size
[18:04] <reisio> streulma: via VirtualBox would be the most straightforward way
[18:04] <UrielVigilant> deego: how do i do that ?
[18:04] <streulma> hi reisio :)
[18:05] <reisio> Patero-ng: what sort of hash?
[18:05] <yeats> UrielVigilant: open 'Software & Updates' and make sure the multiverse source is selected
[18:05] <Patero-ng> one that tells me if a file is the right one
[18:05] <reisio> Patero-ng: can I see it?
[18:05] <Patero-ng> the hash?
[18:05] <reisio> yes
[18:06] <Hackwar> I got a small server with 2 disks for data right now. I later want to extend that to 4 disks. I wanna do a ZFS on that. What type of Vdev do I take? I want the data to be mirrored. Do I have any choice in that case?
[18:06] <Patero-ng> some crc command gave it to me
[18:06] <reisio> Patero-ng: okay
[18:06] <rafael_> how to install t50?
[18:06] <reisio> Patero-ng: probably cksum, then
[18:07] <cybb112> hi guys, can anybody explain to me, why a chess engine has a bigger CPU hunger under Ubuntu (it seems to be a Linux issue in general), than under Windows 7? If I run the Stockfish4 engine, I get around a maximum of 30% CPU load per core under Windows 7, but under Ubuntu 13.10 the chess engine process constantly eats up 95% of the CPU load on all 4 cores.
[18:07] <UrielVigilant> yeats: iam with the window opened, but icant find that word multiverve no where ....
[18:07] <bekks> cybb112: The code differs.
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> Patero-ng: also try md5sum or sha1sum
[18:08] <yeats> UrielVigilant: "Software restricted by copyright or other issues (multiverse)"
[18:08] <__raven> any way to disable power but allow data on usb?
[18:08] <bekks> __raven: No.
[18:08] <UrielVigilant> no i see, just ckeck
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> cybb112: you'd have to ask the developer
[18:08] <rafael_> how to install t50?
[18:08] <pfifo> __raven: with a pair of wire snips
[18:08] <cybb112> bekks: so it's not an issue related to the Operating system.
[18:08] <mojtaba> Hi after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[18:08] <georg> hi, does anyone how to install the intel  graphics installer // libpackagekit-glib2-14 as the depency is broken in 13.10
[18:08] <georg> ?
[18:09] <bekks> cybb112: Correct.
[18:09] <UrielVigilant> yeats: i already ckecked but it still not find the package after :  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[18:09] <UrielVigilant> needs to restart?
[18:09] <yeats> UrielVigilant: do 'sudo apt-get update'
[18:09] <aaron__> Hello all
[18:10] <reisio> 'lo
[18:10] <aaron__> I have a problem with the permissions on a folder.
[18:10] <sarge1221> Hello. Can someone tell me of a bare bones linux where I can build it customly?
[18:10] <bekks> sarge1221: You can do that with every linux.
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> !details | aaron__
[18:10] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: ubuntu minimal
[18:10] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: or debian netinstall
[18:10] <aaron__> working on it....lol
[18:11] <Infandum> I have Windows 8 and I want to bomb the whole thing and put Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 on it. I want to choose the first option to wipe everything, but I also want to use btrfs. How can I use btrfs with an automated installer so I don't have to manually partition?
[18:11] <Pinch97> I tried to install 13.10 alongside windows 7 but when it restarted my pc it said the installation had failed and asked me to send a bug report.
[18:11] <OerHeks> sarge1221, you can use launchpad to start your own repository and use their building service
[18:11] <jetro__> hey guys, I have windows 7, and I tried installing ubuntu through a cd I burned on a partition I created. However, ubuntu failed to install, and windows 7 won't start up any more. Has this happened to anyone before?
[18:11] <supergauntlet> Infandum: Why do you want to use btrfs?
[18:11] <Pinch97> jetro_: i think its like what happened to me
[18:11] <Basil1x> I have 4 ACPI Warnings... System seems to be operating fine, but is there a way to fix them anyway?  Ubuntu13.10 Lenovo G570 i5
[18:11] <pfifo> sarge1221: if you want to build it yourself (as in compile the sources yourself) then you might want to look at a source distro
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> sarge1221: maybe look up http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[18:11] <sarge1221> bekks: right... tell that to apt-get versus aptitude alsa oss pulseaudio blah blah blah. the list goes on and on for annoyances. I want something i can play frankestein's monster with since it seems the dev are more problematic than anything.
[18:11] <supergauntlet> Infandum: It's still very beta, if you do a hard shutdown you'll see data corruption from what I can tell
[18:11] <hp_> Bonjour
[18:11] <supergauntlet> hitsujiTMO: oh lord please no
[18:11] <bekks> jetro__: You messed up the bootloader, I guess.
[18:11] <cybb112> bekks: other topic: Do you know of a way how to install Ubuntu on a partition with custom mount options.
[18:12] <supergauntlet> I don't think that's what he wants hitsujiTMO
[18:12] <jmgk> hm
[18:12] <hp_> Bonjour.
[18:12] <aaron__> its my download folder. It was never like this before. Whenever I try to download from browser it gives me permission denied and the folder shows up locked in my file manager now
[18:12] <hp_> Bonjour
[18:12] <aaron__> I can bypass by running firefox as su, but i dont really want to do that everytime
[18:12] <cybb112> The Ubuntu installer doesn't allow me to set mount options, such as compression for btrfs during installation
[18:12] <aaron__> and chromium wont let me do that
[18:12] <bekks> sarge1221: And how does all that affect the fact that you actually can customize every linux?
[18:12] <sarge1221> also for the record i hate gnome 3 with a passion and unity.
[18:12] <jetro__> bekks, I think you are right. Do you know how I can fix it?
[18:12] <bekks> cybb112: Thats correct.
[18:12] <supergauntlet> aaron__: go to your home directory and run ls -l | grep Downloads and tell us what it says
[18:12] <Infandum> supergauntlet: Yikes, I heard it was in good stable condition. The main reason is that I saw horror storries with SSD EXT4 online.
[18:12] <bekks> !grub2 | jetro__
[18:13] <supergauntlet> Infandum: google about it, I might be wrong
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> supergauntlet: well, thats the answer i given to such an open ended question :P
[18:13] <supergauntlet> Infandum: it's still beta though
[18:13] <T3kniX> join #lubuntu
[18:13] <supergauntlet> hitsujiTMO: lol
[18:13] <pfifo> cybb112: you might want to install with debootstrap
[18:13] <supergauntlet> hitsujiTMO: I think Arch or Gentoo might be more his thing
[18:13] <Infandum> supergauntlet: True, but I figure I wouldn't wear out my SDD though.
[18:13] <cybb112> pfifo: why not make it available in the installer
[18:13] <supergauntlet> hitsujiTMO: or just debian net if he wants to be lightweight
[18:13] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: you should check the permissions, look for who the owner is, you might have changed it to root by mistake
[18:13] <supergauntlet> Infandum: I should look into that too
[18:13] <sarge1221> bekks: go lookup HP pavilion dv5 1004nr and that will answer your question. graphic card issues and soundcard issues on every version of linux thus far.
[18:13] <jetro__> ubottu, I had windows installed already and was trying to install ubuntu
[18:13] <Patero-ng> where is a safe place to download md5?
[18:13] <supergauntlet> Infandum: I have xubuntu on an SSD so..
[18:14] <supergauntlet> Patero-ng: what do you mean?
[18:14] <pfifo> cybb112: go right ahead, software patches can be submitted on launchpad.net
[18:14] <another_georg> hi, does anyone how to install the intel  graphics installer in 13.10 // libpackagekit-glib2-14 as  depency is not available in 13.10?
[18:14] <supergauntlet> another_georg: its in the kernel
[18:14] <jetro__> bekks, I had windows installed already and was trying to install ubuntu
[18:14] <supergauntlet> isn't it?
[18:14] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: you can run: ls -lahd Downloads/  #and get some information
[18:14] <bekks> sarge1221: Which still does not affect the fact that you can customize every linux.
[18:14] <bekks> sarge1221: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[18:14] <jetro__> bekks, it's hard for me to articulate everything in words, here are some screen shots: http://imgur.com/a/vYMQ6
[18:15] <supergauntlet> so many join/part messages
[18:15] <aaron__> drwx------ 7 root  root   4096 Oct  8 15:34 Downloads
[18:15] <another_georg> so why is my graphic performance worse in 13.10 than in 13.04 with the Intel Installer? Laptop getting hotter and louder.... :(
[18:15] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: from there you can try using chown and chmod to make it so you can change those files, but be careful that you don't overwrite the permissions of others
[18:15] <another_georg> ?
[18:15] <sarge1221> bekks: oh but it does when you have no sound and every linux boots into fallback mode every time you boot it up. I want a stripped down basically give me the parts I'll assemble the car since you seem to just break it everytime I start to introduce a couple of new pieces into the mix to fix problems already present.
[18:15] <supergauntlet> aaron__: from the console run sudo chown <your username> Downloads -R
[18:15] <bekks> sarge1221: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[18:16] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: so I would think something like 'sudo chown aaron:aaron Downloads/' might help, where aaron is whatever your user is
[18:16] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: that command can be made recursive, too
[18:16] <another_georg> hm, maybe it is the  second graphic card Nvidia opteron thats used more than before....?
[18:17] <pfifo> so, I guess the 13.10 iso filesize bug is not resolved?
[18:17] <supergauntlet> another_georg: what?
[18:17] <supergauntlet> pfifo: what bug?
[18:17] <Patero-ng> supergauntlet because there are many websites claiming to allow download of that program and I don't want injected spyware
[18:17] <Pinch97> probly not piffo.
[18:17] <supergauntlet> Patero-ng: what program, md5?
[18:17] <Patero-ng> md5sum
[18:17] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: but yes, running firefox as root was not a good answer, you were correct to doubt it as anything more than a temp fix
[18:17] <supergauntlet> Patero-ng: it should be built into ubuntu...
[18:17] <pfifo> supergauntlet: the 13.10 iso filesize bug
[18:17] <supergauntlet> There's a filesize bug?
[18:18] <supergauntlet> first I've heard of it
[18:18] <Guest75387> can i discuss nfs related issues?
[18:18] <aaron__> K, that fixed the problem. Thanks a lot superguantlet and schrod. I just couldnt figure how how I may have accidentally done it and i was reading on chmod and chown but havent used much and wasnt familiar
[18:18] <pfifo> supergauntlet: yes, it seems the iso not being able to fit on a CD is a bug. which sucks for me, I dont have any DVDs
[18:18] <supergauntlet> pfifo: lol
[18:18] <supergauntlet> That's intended I believe, sorry to say
[18:18] <yeats> pfifo: not a bug - that's by design over the last couple/few releases
[18:19] <supergauntlet> pfifo: hold on though
[18:19] <aaron__> although I am sorry that you are dead now that I have seen you schrodinger.....lol
[18:19] <yeats> !mini | pfifo
[18:19] <imark> can anyone give me a tip on how to get the version nickname from the terminal, I need a quick way of grabbing "raring" or "saucy" or whichever to use in a script
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: I think the default chmod for that was 755, but you can do as you please :)
[18:19] <supergauntlet> yeats: basically was gonna say this
[18:19] <imark> literally just the one word,
[18:20] <SchrodingersScat> aaron__: am i dead or not?
[18:20] <pfifo> yeats: I read that it is a bug
[18:20] <yeats> imark: cat '/etc/lsb-release'
[18:20] <another_georg> supergauntlet: I have an asus n76v laptop with 2 graphic cards as an alternative to my macbook
[18:20] <another_georg> and usually the linux is more fun
[18:20] <aaron__> schrodingerscat: yeah, thats where I need to study up on chmod, i dont get the numbers and everything yet
[18:20] <imark> yeats: just the one work, for a script
[18:20] <imark> word
[18:20] <aaron__> only if I see you
[18:20] <imark> lowercase
[18:20] <crundar> for chmod, you can usually use letter combinations to get you by
[18:21] <crundar> chmod a+x, for instance
[18:21] <crundar> x eXecute
[18:21] <malinus> how can I use cd with sudo? It always tells me that command doesn't exsist
[18:21] <sarge1221> a resource on how to build linux from just terminal base. I want to be able to run linux with apt-get and not aptitude. I want app-armor and ufw. I want to run oss audio as much as I am able to. I want a kernal that runs the non-free device drivers from the beginning etc. I want to basically make my own linux I guess? Pick and choose what I know works and remove everythign else that doesn't.
[18:21] <crundar> etc
[18:21] <another_georg> but now my  power consumption is way up ....
[18:21] <yeats> imark: 'lsb_release -c | awk '{print $2}''
[18:21] <MO_Handes> can somebody please give me the regex for this?
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[18:21] <another_georg> and the laptop gets hotter than before
[18:21] <crundar> sarge1221: have you considered a different distro that's a bit more geared toward doing that sort of thing
[18:21] <crundar> arch or gentoo?
[18:21] <Basil1x> sarge1221: Try LFS ;)
[18:22] <shpinog> русские есть?
[18:22] <supergauntlet> Basil1x: lol
[18:22] <yeats> !ru | shpinog
[18:22] <geirha> malinus: You can't. chdir changes the directory of the current process. chdir() is what cd calls, however, sudo is a new child process of the shell, and cd is a builtin (since it doesn't make sense for it to be external)
[18:22] <pfifo> sarge1221: yes LFS is what you described
[18:22] <crundar> if you're into that sort of fun. personally, I'm much happier not /having/ to dig into the entrails to get it doing what I want it to do
[18:22] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: closest you'll get is debian netinstall or ubuntu minimal with a custom kernel
[18:23] <shpinog>  ubottu: how i can registration ?
[18:23] <imark> yeats: thanks
[18:23] <imark> perfect
[18:23] <yeats> imark: happy to assist
[18:23] <geirha> malinus: If you want to run a command with sudo, in a particular dir, either cd first, then run sudo, or wrap a shell around it, e.g.  sudo bash -c 'cd /some/path && the_command'
[18:24] <crundar> I've been having a really strange bug under 12.10
[18:24] <malinus> geirha, yeah the directory is only accessible by root
[18:24] <crundar> ubuntu thinks my wireless keyboard is a laptop battery
[18:24] <yeats> imark: actually 'lsb_release -cs' is even better
[18:24] <crundar> or, more precisely, that my wireless keyboard's battery is a laptop battery, and treating it as such
[18:24] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: I'm using debian 7.0 atm. Not recommended since it is having a slew of development issues. I tried to install cinnamon desktop only for it to have confliction issues with gnome resources and the package managers for aptitude and apt-get have messed up my package list completely.
[18:24] <pixlepix> Hmm
[18:25] <pixlepix> Having a problem
[18:25] <crundar> it's been causing issues with upower, and general unhappinesss with my wireless keyboard (logitech device with proprietary driver)
[18:25] <pixlepix> I'm out in the middle of no where
[18:25] <pixlepix> No USB sticks/blank CD drives
[18:25] <pixlepix> And I want to dual boot ubuntu :P
[18:25] <Basil1x> sarge1221: Hon... ick.  Pick a not-screwed distro, and call me back.
[18:25] <faugusztin> pixlepix: then go in middle of somewhere :)
[18:25] <pixlepix> Macbook pro, OSX
[18:26] <pixlepix> I have grub installed
[18:26] <pixlepix> From a previous installation of ubuntu
[18:26] <sarge1221> Basil1x: I don't think one exists at this time. Why don't you go make us one?
[18:26] <pixlepix> Booting up grub from refit gives 'error: partition not found"
[18:26] <Basil1x> Done and done. :D
[18:26] <SchrodingersScat> pixlepix: so, can grub load the iso then install from there?
[18:26] <supergauntlet> Basil1x: I dunno, debian is pretty solid usually
[18:26] <pfifo> pixlepix: you can get grub2 to boot an iso image
[18:26] <supergauntlet> I don't know what happenned with sarge1221's install, that seems really strange
[18:27] <another_georg> exit
[18:27] <pixlepix> How?
[18:27] <jetro__> So anyone know what I can do about this: http://imgur.com/a/vYMQ6
[18:27] <pfifo> pixlepix: first try to figure it out yourself before asking for support
[18:27] <Basil1x> Well... he's having tribbles, supergauntlet.  Just though taking a butchers at another distro might help.  Even if only in the appreciating-what-he-has arena.
[18:27] <pixlepix> I have been :P
[18:28] <supergauntlet> jetro__: Honestly? Reinstall windows
[18:28] <imark> yeats: even better thanks
[18:28] <supergauntlet> jetro__: then install ubuntu again
[18:28] <Infandum> If I made a system image of Windows 8 including the efi partition, the operationg system partition, etc., if I wipe it all and put ubuntu on and then decide later for critical reasons I need windows, can I restore all of windows onto the empty disk from the image?
[18:28] <supergauntlet> jetro__: I don't know if theres anything else you can do
[18:28] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: it it is so solid why am I forced to use aptitude for package management? and yes if you don't apt-get will break your manager. It tried to get me to basically auto remove my entire gnome 3 base out of linux which would break it. xD
[18:28] <Pinch97> Hi. My Ubuntu 13.10 installed earlier, it restarted and then decided it did not install and told me it was stopped half way through and did not finish. I posted this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1242081) but don't understand the comment.
[18:28] <supergauntlet> jetro__: Unless ubuntu detects the windows installation while windows startup repair doesnt
[18:28] <jetro__> supergauntlet, but then I will lose all my programs, etc :(
[18:28] <crundar> during upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04, the terminal had a message reading in part "this likely means your installation is broken"
[18:28] <crundar> the installation is still going on
[18:29] <crundar> should that be worrying me
[18:29] <shpinog>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:29] <crundar> where's the log file generated during a dist-
[18:29] <supergauntlet> jetro__: Try installing with linux again, perhaps grub will detect it
[18:29] <shpinog> join #ubuntu-ru
[18:29] <crundar> err dist-upgrade
[18:29] <jetro__> supergauntlet, I think ubuntu does detect the windows installation, because if I run ubuntu from the cd, then try to install, it gives the option to install alongside windows
[18:29] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: I've actually never had that happen but that sounds like more of an apt-get bug than a debian one
[18:29] <crundar> I'd like to take a look; the terminal had some suggestion for a workaround, and I'd like to know what that suggestion is.
[18:29] <supergauntlet> jetro__: hmm, interesting
[18:31] <vortex_ape> Hello, I am on ubuntu 12.10
[18:31] <vortex_ape> and want to add a keyboard shortcut for Konsole which I just installed
[18:32] <vortex_ape> what should I write in the command field in keyboard shortcuts in system settings?
[18:32] <pfifo> pixlepix: heres my grub.cfg, it should help http://fpaste.org/48009/38220749/
[18:32] <Authrax> Anyone know if it is possible to force Skype to connect with a SOCKS5 proxy on Ubuntu like you can with Windows registry entries (like so: http://imgur.com/a/NpFdW)?
[18:32] <Pinch97> Can somebody help me with Bug #1242081
[18:33] <jetro__> supergauntlet, if I try to install alongside windows it doesn't work though, it just crashes. If you want, I can take a picture
[18:33] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: Would there be away to customize a linux from scratch? I could pick and choose what package manager it runs, make it run nautilus, ufw, apparmor, idebi package manager, utilize thecinnamon desktop environment. Just want ot pick and choose what I want from the beginning.
[18:33] <SchrodingersScat> Authrax: proxychains was a good wrapper, you'd still have to check for leaks
[18:33] <pfifo> sarge1221: LFS dosent have a package manager
[18:33] <crundar> I've been having a problem getting keyboard shortcuts that use Alt to work in ubuntu 12.10 over my wireless keyboard.
[18:33] <crundar> That seemed strang
[18:34] <vortex_ape> please help to setup custom keyboard shortcuts
[18:34] <crundar> hm. somehow I lost it on my wired keyboard as well.
[18:34] <vortex_ape> what should I add in the command field
[18:34] <crundar> shortcuts with just Ctrl seem to work fine.
[18:34] <supergauntlet> jetro__: Yeah, what error message does it say?
[18:34] <Rexter> when I make a synlink to an executable script, it doesn't open the same. what's the right way to do it?
[18:34] <sarge1221> pfifo: what is LPS?
[18:35] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: ubuntu minimal sounds like what you want honestly
[18:35] <sarge1221> pfifo: what is LFS?*
[18:35] <crundar> Rexter, meaning you execute the symlink
[18:35] <jmgk> hm
[18:35] <jetro__> supergauntlet, 1 second, getting a picture
[18:35] <crundar> is it  a permissioning issue?
[18:35] <pfifo> sarge1221: LFS is, linux from scratch, their website is http:/www.linuxfromscratch.org
[18:35] <yeats> sarge1221: it's another distro, unrelated to ubuntu
[18:35] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: I would prefer to remain away from ubuntu since i ran into strange issues using compiz.
[18:36] <supergauntlet> sarge1221: you can use ubuntu without using compiz
[18:36] <supergauntlet> and ubuntu minimal is basically debian unstable netinstall with upstart and ppas
[18:36] <sarge1221> supergauntlet: would boot up firefox missing close window buttons and was prone ot crash often, I tried to install something else besides compiz and it just made me boot into terminal base.
[18:36] <vortex_ape> What should I add in the command field in the custom keyboard shortcuts?
[18:37] <crundar> vortex_ape: what command you want it to perform or program you want it to execute when you issue that command
[18:37] <crundar> vortex_ape: for instance, gnome-terminal
[18:37] <sarge1221> pfifo: thank you. I'll check them out. :)
[18:37] <crundar> would open a terminal (assuming you're using gnome, etc)
[18:38] <vortex_ape> ctrl+alt+t
[18:38] <vortex_ape> for konsole
[18:39] <crundar> you ought to just be able to write konsole there, and then have it do it's thing when you execute it.
[18:39] <jmgk> hm
[18:39] <crundar> if that's not working, then we'll try a couple of tests, and give that a shot
[18:39] <crundar> my usual go-to test is eog
[18:40] <crundar> 'cause I've never had that program not work
[18:40] <crundar> but whatever the kde equivalent is
[18:40] <yeats> jmgk: do you have a question?
[18:40] <darkelfjuggalo> i got the upgrade notificaion from 13.04 to 13.10 earlier, and began it.. but my power flipped and I lost it... i tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get it back and i didn't get the upgrade i was looking for, how do I restart the upgrade?
[18:40] <whoever> hi all, anyone here using an ups? what appllication do you use to controle it
[18:41] <bekks> whoever: the webinterface of the APS UPS.
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> sarge1221: maybe you should try ubuntu server ... it's effectively just a console install ... you can even install a minimal system with it.
[18:43] <reisio> whoever: nut
[18:43] <sarge1221> hitsujiTMO: Tried server edition and it did work pretty well but that was during gnome 2 days and all this crazy outlandish nonsense going on nowadays. Thanks for the advice anyways though.
[18:43] <jetro__> supergauntlet, after choosing "Install Ubuntu inside Windows 7" within a few secs, it said "Please remove installation media and close tray (if any) then press ENTER" (I did, and the computer just restarted, and I am back where I started, no ubuntu, windows 7 not starting)
[18:43] <sarge1221> hitsujiTMO: before*
[18:44] <supergauntlet> well shit.
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> sarge1221: maybe you should be asking this question in ##linux
[18:44] <jetro__> supergauntlet, no hope?
[18:44] <parduse> any donwside using ubuntu server with win7 using wmware player?
[18:44] <supergauntlet> jetro__: I don't think so
[18:44] <supergauntlet> parduse: hmm?
[18:44] <supergauntlet> what are you trying to do?
[18:44] <sarge1221> hitsujiTMO: maybe there should be a readme on general linux education. Wouldn't that be nice to have in all those outdated and poorly written man pages? :P
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> parduse: it takes up space, and ram and uses your cpu?
[18:45] <parduse> i am thinking of using them at the same time on a server pc
[18:45] <supergauntlet> parduse: okay, so what would be the host?
[18:45] <parduse> win7
[18:45] <whoever> reisio: ok , i just ran across apcupsd, i assume nut is more general(not specific to one brand) does not have a gui (just for s&gs , i know i don't need one ) but notification like libpopup
[18:45] <linuxtech> <darkelfjuggalo: My brother is in a similiar situation and I was thinking he run do-release-upgrade.
[18:45] <supergauntlet> parduse: i mean it'd work
[18:46] <parduse> i think my old pc with 1gb ram and a sempron 1700 cpu will handle it
[18:46] <darkelfjuggalo> do i need to sudo apt-get that, linuxtech?
[18:46] <whoever> err ... i am torrn between two ups , what to pick: apc http://www.amazon.com/APC-BE550G-Back-UPS-Outlet-550VA/dp/B0019804U8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382204624&sr=8-1&keywords=apc  and eaton : http://www.amazon.com/Eaton-US550VA-5-15P-5-15R-4-UPS/dp/B005EIGUDE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1382203360&sr=8-5&keywords=eaton+ups
[18:46] <yeats> parduse: you'd do better dual booting with that little RAM
[18:46] <bekks> whoever: thats not related to ubuntu, isnt it?
[18:46] <whoever> bekks: not directly
[18:47] <linuxtech> darkelfjuggalo: Just run do-release-upgrade.
[18:47] <bekks> whoever: Then please keep it in th offtopic channel :)
[18:47] <whoever> bekks: +-)
[18:47] <parduse> in that case i cannot remote choose which os to start, afaik
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> parduse: i dont even thing win7 will run on that system (not in a usable state anyhow)
[18:48] <linuxtech> darkelfjuggalo: If it doesn't work, you can try apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:48] <yeats> parduse: you wouldn't be happy running a VM of any sort with that little RAM
[18:48] <darkelfjuggalo> it is working... the dist-upgrade didn't
[18:49] <parduse> it wont be doing much, some works for for win7 and some for linux, that was why i was asking. Okay thank you all very much for your participation
[18:49] <Rexter> crundar; I'm truing to put an icon of my desktop for the TOR bundle. start-tor-browser is a shell script. I just want a link to it on the desktop.
[18:51] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | darkelfjuggalo dist-upgrade is very misunderstood.
[18:51] <Guest18750> i'am connect
[18:52] <Reacto> How do I stop xconf/nvidia-settings from resetting on every reboot?
[18:52] <Reacto> I've written the settings to the xconf file as root, but it didn't help
[18:52] <zykotick9> Reacto: use "gksudo nvidia-setting-WHATEVER" then use the "save to xorg.conf" button (should work)
[18:53] <Reacto> I just did, didn't help :/
[18:53] <linuxtech> !upgrade-failed
[18:54] <Reacto> can try unchecking merge with existing file
[18:54] <shpinog> 123
[18:54] <shpinog> help
[18:54] <shpinog> помо
[18:54] <shpinog> !ask
[18:54] <shpinog> !help
[18:54] <ermac_> how do i install intel drivers
[18:54] <TheLordOfTime> shpinog, just ask your question, we can't read your mind about what your issue is.
[18:55] <ermac_> if it asks for dependency
[18:55] <Reacto> however zykotick9, is there anything I can do to make it stop glitching at the edge of the monitor? Sometimes the cursor just gets stuck there for a few seconds, really annoying
[18:55] <shpinog> !login
[18:55] <shpinog> @shpinog
[18:55] <shpinog> @login
[18:55] <zykotick9> Reacto: i have no idea... good luck.
[18:55] <Reacto> hah, thanks anyway
[18:56] <shpinog> !login
[18:56] <presonic> just freshly installed ubuntu 13.10, trying to install xchat but it wont let me install, when i click 'more info', it says 'availabe from the "universe" source'
[18:56] <shpinog> @shpinog 123
[18:56] <shpinog> '
[18:56] <shpinog> !sup
[18:56] <hitsujiTMO> shpinog: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:56] <shpinog> !ask
[18:56] <shpinog> !login
[18:57] <shpinog> !@login
[18:57] <linuxtech> !upgrade
[18:57] <streulma> should I install Ubuntu in English or my main language ?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> streulma  what's suits you best
[18:58] <streulma> MonkeyDust: English is not so good
[18:58] <ermac_> go native
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> presonic, hit edit-software sources and make sure the universal tab is ticked
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> presonic, if it is not tick run a update then install.
[18:59] <lasindi> Hi, I just upgraded to 13.10 and have a Radeon card. I tried going to Settings -> Details and it says "Graphics: VESA" but in my xorg.conf it says to use fglrx. Could it be that the Settings page is wrong? Or is my xorg.conf not working?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> presonic, you have to run a update on a fresh install to sync the repos anyway.
[18:59] <jhutchins> streulma: You can have both.  Probably easiest to do the install in your native language.
[19:00] <jhutchins> streulma: The actual code within the binaries is the same, but output selects from different libraries for different languages, so you can set a different language for just one command if you want.
[19:00] <Dysfucction> I'm having issues with my mouse. I upgraded to 13.04 from 12.10, and installed Steam and TF2 shortly afterwards. Ever since I launched TF2, my USB mouse stopped working.
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> lasindi: run: fglrxinfo
[19:01] <jhutchins> Dysfucction: Have you shut down steam and TF2?
[19:01] <geirha> lasindi: It probably means it tried to load fglrx, but failed to get it to work with your graphics card, and reverted to VESA which is pretty safe. If this is the case, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should contain clues about it
[19:01] <Dysfucction> Yes.
[19:01] <jhutchins> Dysfucction: Have you rebooted?
[19:02] <Dysfucction> Yes.
[19:02] <lasindi> hitsujiTMO, it says: "OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 7520G" ... conclusive evidence?
[19:02] <parduse> .
[19:03] <presonic> wilee-nilee: 'universe' is checked in the Software & Updates dialog
[19:03] <presonic> i need to run an 'update' ? to sync repos?
[19:04] <presonic> wilee-nilee: nm, im having connection problems
[19:04] <presonic> when i first login internet seems to work, then it stops working
[19:04] <jetro__> I cant seem to connect the internet on ubuntu (I am on a laptop and am trying to connect wirelessly), when I run ifconfig I just see eth0 and lo
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> lasindi: does it tell you what display and screen it is using?
[19:05] <lasindi> hitsujiTMO, display 0 screen 0
[19:06] <xtriz> what is vim.tiny ?
[19:06] <AncientTech> Been burning DVDs and now after updating drive media not detected. Ubunto 13,
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> jetro__, run lspci in terminal and identify the wifi hardware
[19:06] <zykotick9> xtriz: vim-tiny is basically vi, not vim.
[19:06] <jhutchins> xtriz: Very minimal implementation of the vim editor.
[19:07] <paulgureghian> hi
[19:07] <jhutchins> xtriz: It's a lot like the original vi without the later conveniences like visual blocks.
[19:07] <xtriz> jhutchins, zykotick9  nice to know.
[19:07] <xtriz> :)
[19:07] <paulgureghian> any ubuntu pros here?
[19:08] <jetro__> wilee-nilee, it seems to be broadcom corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN controller (rev 01)
[19:08] <bekks> !anyone | paulgureghian
[19:08] <jhutchins> xtriz: Most systems install it by default.  Some sytems even constrain the root account to using it for some reason.  (I think it's where it's installed on the system, more likeley to be accessible in an emergency).
[19:08] <jetro__> wilee-nilee, not sure what to do with that information though
[19:09] <jhutchins> paulgureghian: That being someone who is paid to work on or with ubuntu?
[19:09] <xtriz> jhutchins, is vim.tiny ubuntu's implementation ?
[19:09] <auronandace> !b43 | jetro__
[19:09] <jhutchins> xtriz: No, the different versions are all upstream as far as I know.
[19:09] <xtriz> !poll
[19:10] <xtriz> jhutchins, ok :)
[19:10] <tiina> hej hej jag måste ladda ner på min dator helt ny installation av ubuntu ifrån usb stickan men den hittar inte usb stickan och jag kollade bios men den fanns inte där heller?
[19:10] <boran> hi
[19:10] <tiina> hej
[19:10] <bazhang> tiina, #ubuntu-se for svensk
[19:10] <ampw> how do i auto detect displays
[19:10] <boran> İ love boob's
[19:10] <ampw> in terminal
[19:10] <alxy> I have newest ubuntu now (13.10) and no idea how to configure empathy ... instructions in the internet seem to belong to different versions
[19:10] <paulgureghian> I installed 13.04 on a dual boot with windows 7
[19:11] <boran> İ HATE WİNDOWS
[19:11] <boran> WİNDOWS SUCKS
[19:11] <bazhang> boran, wrong place take it elsewhere
[19:11] <jmgk> uh
[19:11] <boran> WİNDOWS İS FOR İDİOT's
[19:11] <bazhang> boran, stop that
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> !ops
[19:11] <boran> ok ok
[19:11] <_Trullo> I just started installing windows, http://i.imgur.com/g0Zgf6q.jpg
[19:11] <yeats> SchrodingersScat: bazhang is an op, FYI
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> k
[19:11] <ampw> lol
[19:11] <tiina> Hi i dont know how to download to my computer a clean ubuntu from usb stick?
[19:11] <paulgureghian> then i damaged it by cutting wubi and wubildr.mbr from the root
[19:11] <boran> lol
[19:12] <crundar> well, I just finished the upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04. Time to restart, and see what I've destroyed
[19:12] <crundar> g'bye butters
[19:12] <boran> 3711
[19:12] <crundar> gooodbaaye
[19:12] <boran> 3711 disc
[19:12] <bekks> paulgureghian: wubi has nothing to do wiuth dualnboot. Wubi is an Ubuntu residing in a file in Windows.
[19:12] <ampw> tiina download ubuntu (version you want) then use dd to install it on a usb
[19:12] <tiina> Hi can anyone tell me how to download ubuntu to my computer from usb stick?
[19:12] <boran> You can use UUİ
[19:12] <jmgk> erm
[19:12] <tiina> what is dd?
[19:12] <genii> boran: As much as most of the people here are Ubuntu types, we still don't care for bashing of other operating systems.
[19:12] <yeats> !liveusb | tiina
[19:13] <jmgk> tiina,  USB burner
[19:13] <boran> UUİ is better
[19:13] <paulgureghian> i couldnt reboot into 13.04 anymore
[19:13] <tiina> Nothing over that link giving me advice I understood sorry?
[19:13] <paulgureghian> so i tried to install 13.10 over it
[19:13] <jmgk> hm
[19:13] <mojtaba> Hi after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[19:13] <jmgk> paulgureghian,  reborn the iso maybe?
[19:13] <paulgureghian> and its not installing
[19:13] <jmgk> reburn
[19:13] <jmgk> odd
[19:13] <bekks> paulgureghian: You should not use Wubi at all, but setup a dualboot by installing Ubuntu alongside your Windows.
[19:13] <jmgk> redownload the iso
[19:13] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <tiina> I already have downloaded and booted ubuntu on usb stick but computer dosent know usb stick?
[19:14] <paulgureghian> on a seperate partition
[19:14] <bekks> paulgureghian: Yes.
[19:14] <yeats> tiina: you might need to enable USB booting the BIOS?
[19:14] <mustafa> hi ....i have a problem with power outage >>>>all the time........this is actially the envioment that are meant for the server to work on >>>>am i going to have a trouble with RAID 1 ....on such enviroment>>>?
[19:15] <yeats> !ot | mustafa
[19:15] <paulgureghian> i have to resize the partition table
[19:16] <Rory> mustafa: If you have bad power, consider purchasing a UPS (uninterruptable Power Supply) which is a short-term battery which sits between your server and the power grid. The size of UPS you get will depend on the power requirements of the server, and how long the power is usually out for.
[19:16] <bekks> paulgureghian: No. The Ubuntu installer when booting the ubuntu installation cd will do it for you if you tell it to do so.
[19:17] <paulgureghian> how bout if i use a usb
[19:17] <paulgureghian> i dont get partioning options
[19:17] <bekks> paulgureghian: Then the above applies exactly the same way.
[19:18] <tiina> Still dont understand how to install ubuntu to computer from usb stick please anyone who could help me?
[19:18] <yeats> tiina: what's not working?
[19:19] <tiina> yeats how do I boot BIOS?
[19:19] <tiina> nothing happens from my usb stick
[19:19] <bekks> tiina: You dont boot BIOS, you have to press a key (which one, is stated in the manual of your computer) to get into the BIOS.
 well i knew that .......but i mean i cant get it work 24/7 always ......the server must be shut down at a certain time .....because there is no electricity ......ups wouldnt going to work like for 12 hours .....and the server must be shut down ...directly from the power .....(envioment .....issue)
[19:19] <lululaplap_> Hello, when updating to 13.10, the software updater has frozen while in the installing the upgrades stage. What should I do?
[19:19] <yeats> tiina: depends on your manufacturer - there's usually a "press F2 to enter setup" or something like that when you first start the computer
[19:19] <tiina> I have boot a ubuntu in usb stick yet it dosent downloaded it on computer?
[19:20] <yeats> tiina: sometimse there's a boot option
[19:20] <tiina> yes but which one of them?
[19:20] <bekks> tiina: "boot from USB".
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> tiina: depends on your machine, often an F key, but sometimes Del or Esc
[19:20] <tiina> I dont have shuch a thing in bios?
[19:20] <tiina> del
[19:21] <yeats> tiina: consult your computer's documentation for how to enter the BIOS or boot from other media
[19:21] <tiina> I have looked around in there yet I dont know what to do there?
 i knew that ubuntu ext4 is actially resistant to power outage ...but i want to make a RAID 1 active ..so i have heared that RAID fails at power outage
[19:21] <tiina> what is it what I need to lokk after at the bios?
[19:22] <tiina> look after at the bios?
[19:22] <yeats> tiina: look around in the menus for boot options
[19:22] <fishscene> tiina: Look for an option to boot from USB/flashdrive/thumbdrive
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> tiina, Your description is confusing lets get some details, what operating system is on the computer already is it windows 8 perchance?
[19:22] <tiina> I had a advanced bios?
[19:22] <bekks> tiina: We dont know which BIOS you have.
[19:22] <tiina> no i have ubuntu maverick yet want a clean ubuntu start
[19:23] <yeats> tiina: you'll need to consult your computer's documentation for that (as said before)
[19:23] <jmgk> hmm
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> tiina, use nicks here.
[19:23] <tiina> i dont have any computer documantaions
[19:23] <jmgk> odd
[19:24] <yeats> !behelpful | jmgk
[19:24] <tiina> just need to konw how to install CLEAN UBUNTU to my computer??
[19:24] <jmgk> oh SOrry
[19:24] <paulgureghian> call me at<PHONE_NUMBER>
[19:24] <jmgk> paulgureghian,  this isnt an ad chat
[19:25] <yeats> tiina: to do that, you need to be able to boot from USB or CD - if you don't know how to do that, no one here can help
[19:25] <fishscene> tiina: It seems you are having trouble booting from the USB drive, so we are trying to assist with that. However, we need to know a bit about your computer to help you figure out how to boot from the USB stick. Do you know anything about the computer? IBM/Mac/Dell, and model number?
[19:25] <jmgk> hi
[19:25] <jmgk> How can I fix a WINE issue with DIrect X
[19:25] <tiina> YES I have troubles booting from usb
[19:25] <jmgk> hm
[19:25] <jmgk> brb
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> paulgureghian, Your phone number is now on the web world wide, not the brightest move.
[19:26] <tiina> I have amd quad core phenom
[19:26] <tiina> ubuntu maverick in it
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> !tab | tiina
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> tiina  maverick is !eol, dead
[19:27] <tiina> i know
[19:27] <Dustinwood> I have tremulous installed using the directions in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341403but it wont open or do anything for that matter. The tremulous icon does show up in applications. HELP PLOX
[19:27] <tiina> thats why i need to have an other ubuntu 12.10
[19:27] <tiina> or 13.10
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> tiina  you can't fix something that's dead
[19:27] <tiina> i dont want to fix maverick i want to install ubuntu 13.10
[19:28] <enthdegree> hello all
[19:28] <Dustinwood> hi
[19:28] <high_fiver> sup
[19:28] <enthdegree> how do i copy the screen clipboard to the X clipboar?
[19:28] <jaymitra> gk
[19:28] <bekks> tiina: Then you have to boot from USB. Maybe the manual of your computer can help you to set the boot option needed for booting from USB?
[19:29] <tiina> Dont have any documantations left of it this is old computer today...
[19:29] <tiina> I dont have any manual
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> tiina, YOu can get the manual on line.
[19:29] <yeats> tiina: if it's too old, it may not boot from USB at all
[19:30] <tiina> AMD QUAD CORE with PHENOM
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> a quad core will boot a usb
[19:30] <tiina> not too old
[19:30] <crundar> really interesting bug. I've got two keyboard layouts setup, us and us-dvorak on a 13.04 box. My keyboard shortcuts work with the first layout
[19:30] <crundar> but the keys don't switch in the second
[19:30] <bekks> tiina: Then you can download the manual.
[19:30] <killer> hey
[19:30] <tiina> dont have  any iPhone
[19:31] <fishscene> tiina: Is there any markings on the computer that say what company and model the computer is?
[19:31] <bekks> tiina: You dont need an iPhone for downloading things.
[19:31] <tiina> my computer is built buy a computer constructor
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> tiina, Find the manual online to find how to get to the bios, there is also a per session boot key press at powering on.
[19:31] <crundar> so, say, even in my dvorak layout, I have to hit Ctrl-Alt-<Location of qwerty T>
[19:31] <killer> how can I share my ubuntu laptop internet with my android phone
[19:31] <crundar> to opena  terminal
[19:31] <crundar> mighty odd
[19:31] <crundar> in addition, it's still doing that thing that it used to do under 12.10, wherein it treats my keyboard's battery like a laptop battery
[19:32] <crundar> mighty odd, that.
[19:32] <tiina> I know how to log in to bios but dont know what I need to look after  there for
[19:32] <cstewart> hi killer ....firestarter might be a easy gui that will share your internet connection
[19:32] <bekks> tiina: "Boot order", "boot options" or similar.
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !ics
[19:32] <guest_____> I installed Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 and then Gnome 3.10 but hidpi is not turned on. How do I turn on hidpi?
[19:33] <Elico> anyone works with KVM on ubuntu as hypervisior to more then one node?
[19:33] <join_rinub> hi
[19:33] <tiina> Boot Advanced I have there...and then? after when I have logged in to that?
[19:33] <Dustinwood> I have tremulous installed using the directions in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341403but it wont open or do anything for that matter. The tremulous icon does show up in applications. HELP PLOX
[19:33] <yeats> !anyone | Elico
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Elico
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Elico  is that ubuntu server? if yes: there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:33] <jesse---> does LoL run on ubuntu?
[19:34] <Dustinwood> no
[19:34] <Dustinwood> i tried
[19:34] <Dustinwood> lol
[19:34] <zykotick9> Dustinwood: try "tremulous" in a terminal, any error output?
[19:34] <Elico> ofcourse server..
[19:34] <jesse---> is it in any way possible.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, LoL?
[19:34] <jesse---> league of legends.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, check the web.
[19:34] <jesse---> i've been looking for months
[19:35] <jesse---> but i can't seem to find an install that will go in-game without crashing.
[19:35] <jesse---> even with crossover
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, probably not if you find nothing. there is wine and play on linux as well.
[19:35] <jesse---> alot of issues with wine crashing
[19:35] <jesse---> even with the pre-reqs
[19:35] <jesse---> winetricks, ect
[19:35] <zykotick9> Dustinwood: in channel please...
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, have you tried #windhq
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> #winehq
[19:37] <jesse---> i'll give both chaneels a try thank you.
[19:37] <Dustinwood> tremulous: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:38] <zykotick9> Dustinwood: well, that's the issue, you need libSDL-1.2.so.0 (for the games arch probably 32bit), best of luck.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> jesse---, only one is correct the first is a typo
[19:38] <Dustinwood> thx
[19:39] <hxm> how can I read an imap account trought console?
[19:39] <Dustinwood> thx zyko
[19:39] <zykotick9> hxm: mutt perhaps
[19:40] <bscrew> How do I install cursors and cursor themes?
[19:41] <yeats> hxm: yeah, mutt works with imap
[19:42] <bscrew> anyone?
[19:43] <Authrax> Anyone know of any alternative proxy wrappers to proxychains that support UDP connections and SOCKS5?
[19:44] <cstewart> hi authrax, could i ask further questions like what are you trying to accomplish
[19:45] <Authrax> cstewart: Trying to force Skype to use a proxy so that people cannot use an IP resolver on my Skype account.
[19:45] <high_fiver> bscrew, unity tweak allows you to change cursor themes
[19:45] <aguitel> when i run :sudo update-grub . it take long time to finish ,why ?
[19:45] <cstewart> so we can use squid proxy to accomplish this
[19:46] <high_fiver> aguitel, how long does it take?
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, You running this in a install?
[19:46] <aguitel> high_fiver, 10 minutes
[19:46] <cstewart> once you install squid proxy then enable a full resource set, after this is done tell the client pc to use a proxy and your away to the races
[19:47] <shdome> Hello, would anyone be able to point me to the right channel to ask a question about c++ coding on ubuntu?
[19:47] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, when i install new kernel or remove old kernel
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, how are you installing and removing kernels?
[19:47] <Authrax> cstewart: I don't want the whole PC to be under a proxy, just the Skype application.
[19:47] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, from synaptic
[19:48] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, i choose the old kernel
[19:48] <MGMT> I'm looking at the compizconfig-settings-manager at grid settings for window tiling... it says ctrl-alt-KP3  what's KP3?  Nothing seems to happen when I press ctrl-alt-#3 key
[19:48] <streulma> what are suitable ntp servers ?
[19:48] <Marlenee> any one use MAAS pkg before i need some info about this pkg ???
[19:49] <Ari-Yang> aguitel: you can remove old kernels for e.g. by typing dpkg -l | grep linux-image in terminal then sudo dpkg -r linux-image-xxxx
[19:50] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, it not fail ,only take long time
[19:50] <aguitel> Ari-Yang, i have not old kernels right now
[19:50] <cstewart> I honestly don't know if this can be done.....i use macs and skype relys on system proxy settings so i have that setup and skype uses a proxy and so does safari, but firefox I have set to use a direct connection so no proxy but can this be done on windows i'm not sure
[19:51] <IdleOne> cstewart: you might try asking in ##windows, this is #ubuntu
[19:52] <cstewart> LOL idleone i'm answer the question SMA
[19:52] <aguitel> Ari-Yang, see that:http://bpaste.net/show/ocfSudlYbYctdTsBmwlB/
[19:53] <Authrax> cstewart: Any idea if there is a way to force the Skype application to connect to a proxy through the application itself, like how you can on Windows through registry entry (http://imgur.com/a/NpFdW)? Because, if I can do that on Ubuntu just like I could on Windows, that would be great.
[19:55] <cstewart> Looks like in windows if you google skype proxy connection the first result will show you the windows answers
[19:55] <Ari-Yang> aguitel: what about it?
[19:55] <Ari-Yang> :|
[19:55] <Authrax> cstewart: I'm not on Windows anymore, I'm on Ubuntu.
[19:56] <aguitel> Ari-Yang, no old kernel i have
[19:57] <Ari-Yang> aguitel: what's the output of uname -r ?
[19:58] <aguitel> Ari-Yang, 3.11.0-12-generic
[19:58] <Ari-Yang> okay, so you don't have old kernels..
[19:59] <aguitel> Ari-Yang,  i know
[19:59] <Ari-Yang> k
[20:00] <lululaplap_> hi, while updating to saucy during the "installing the upgrades" stage, the updater has frozen, what should I do? thanks you
[20:01] <jhutchins> I'm building a boot usb using debootstrap on /dev/sdc - how do I set up grub properly?  It will be /dev/sda on the target system.
[20:01] <CorpusCallosum> hi guys i am oftenly gettin E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. error. for example i am trying to install ruby-rvm. i am using 12.04
[20:02] <streulma> CorpusCallosum: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:02] <cstewart> maybe someone else that uses ubuntu can help....i'm a server ubuntu user to my desktop help is limited sorry bud
[20:02] <CorpusCallosum> streulma, i have already tried it and also clean, autoclean stuff too
[20:02] <jhutchins> cstewart: You are aware that skype is a Microsoft product?
[20:03] <cstewart> yes....for sure...use macs for desktops
[20:03] <streulma> jhutchins: :)
[20:03] <high_fiver> dun dun duhhh
[20:04] <cstewart> microsoft = evil
[20:04] <sumos> anybody know how to make these 3.10 upgrade messages stop?
[20:04] <streulma> sumos: yes
[20:04] <CorpusCallosum> any different solution suggest ?
[20:05] <sumos> i tried the "don't upgrade" button, but they just _keep_ coming
[20:05] <streulma> sumos: you want to stop saying that he wants to upgrade to ubuntu 13.10 ?
[20:05] <sumos> yeah, i want the pop-up messages telling me to upgrade to 13.10 to stop
[20:06] <streulma> sumos: I can help you
[20:06] <streulma> sumos: in the Dash > search for Software Updater
[20:06] <Ari-Yang> streulma: so help him then.
[20:06] <streulma> sumos: go to Settings
[20:07] <high_fiver> sumos, Software Sources > Updates > Notify LTS Only
[20:07] <streulma> sumos: there you can set that you only want LTS versions
[20:08] <sumos> ah, excellent. thanks streulma & high_fiver
[20:08] <streulma> sumos: the next LTS is in April 2014
[20:08] <high_fiver> sumos, np
[20:09] <streulma> sumos: the next upcomming version after 13.10 > 14.04
[20:09] <naty> i need help  Tor bug ubuntu 13.10
[20:10] <Crazyzurfer> when tried to upgrade to 13.10 from 13.04 got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266077/ any way to fix this? :)
[20:10] <high_fiver> naty, whats your questoion?
[20:11] <naty>  can't install Tor browser
[20:11] <high_fiver> naty, ah ok. how are you trying or which guide you following?
[20:12] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: I see you are using the xorg-edgers ppa
[20:12] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: is that bad?
[20:13] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: no, I use this also :) but for upgrade try to disable this ppa: or change to saucy in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:13] <high_fiver> naty, what errors do you get?
[20:14] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: I've disabled all external ppa's before upgrading, with "software sources"
[20:14] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: I think Ubuntu thinks that the packages are newer
[20:15] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: then, what should I do?
[20:15] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: don't know... but I'm thinking... :)
[20:16] <Crazyzurfer> okay :P
[20:16] <lululaplap_> hi, while updating to saucy during the "installing the upgrades" stage, the updater has frozen, what should I do? thanks you
[20:17] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: enable the PPA again, but change in the list file raring to saucy, do a sudo apt-get update and upgrade again
[20:17] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: ok
[20:18] <lessless> how to make card 1: HUDmx2 [Audinst HUD-mx2], device 1: USB Audio [USB Audio #1] a default output?
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, look behind the gui there may be a popup behind it.
[20:19] <lululaplap_> how do I do that?
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, use the alt key and your mouse to move windows around if you can
[20:20] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: is it ok? :)
[20:21] <lululaplap_> oh, right, nope, nothing
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, look around, stoping the install part can be a big problem is all.
[20:21] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: wait a sec
[20:22] <lululaplap_> yeah, I really don't want to stop it, but its been like this for an hour with nothing
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, You sure you still have internet access just to check variables
[20:23] <lululaplap_> yeah, I do
[20:23] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: changed with software and update's tool the ppa from raring to saucy and tried to upgrade, I doesn't offer me the upgrade now, and just shows me the error.. checked the ppa's again and the one I changed to saucy dissapeared
[20:24] <emdub_> anyone know what's up with the syslog-ng package in saucy?
[20:24] <emdub_> seems to have a broken dependency chain or something
[20:24] <cucujoidea> hello, I would like to use the xscreensaver with gnome-flashback. But there seems to be a problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1199074
[20:25] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: do you have sudo apt-get update done ?
[20:25] <streulma> Crazyzurfer: in Terminal I mean, then you can try apt-get -f install
[20:25] <emdub_> http://pastie.org/8415054 -- re: syslog-ng
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, Do you have dropbox installed, I see freezes on the web in this scenario?
 Yes, I do, should I uninstall?
[20:27] <ultim8> how can i install dosbox games in xubuntu?
[20:27] <streulma> ultim8: wine ?
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, I would look on askubuntu and the web in genral, just a guess on it being the problem however.
[20:27] <SchrodingersScat> ultim8: vm?
[20:27] <reisio> ultim8: 1) install dosbox 2) install games
[20:28] <ultim8> Nope, i mean, i installed the dosbox itself. Now where can i get the games and how do i install them in xubuntu?
[20:28] <Munapaa> Damn, I cant get my tor working on ubuntu and I none of people are online in the #tor irc
[20:28] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: oh, thanks
[20:28] <reisio> ultim8: from online
[20:28] <cucujoidea> is there a possibility to install xscreensaver in combination with gnome-flashback?
[20:28] <reisio> ultim8: you install them by running dosbox and imagining you're in DOS
[20:28] <reisio> cucujoidea: what's gnome-flashback?
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> lululaplap_, I never do upgrades myself so I can only google for answers.
[20:29] <cucujoidea> in older versions, it was called gnome-fallback. it is a more gnome-2 like desktop
[20:29] <reisio> cucujoidea: ah
[20:29] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: do you have to install a dos wget?
[20:29] <loa> is it possible to turn off hard drive?
[20:29] <reisio> cucujoidea: if you want GNOME 2, I'd use Xfce, or MATE
[20:29] <reisio> loa: usually, yea
[20:30] <streulma> Munapaa: I can maybe help
[20:30] <loa> for example i have two hard drives and i want trun off one, not primary
[20:30] <loa> how?
[20:30] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: no, you map part of your local FS
[20:30] <Munapaa> Is here anyone that can help me with tor?
[20:30] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: you tell it which random dir full of DOS game executables you have should be c:
[20:30] <reisio> Munapaa: no, but there are some ones
[20:30] <streulma> Munapaa: installing Tor yes :)
[20:30] <loa> i am thinking about buying ssd, and for backup i want to use my hard drive
[20:31] <loa> which will be off 99% of time
[20:31] <reisio> loa: your internal?
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> Munapaa, The easy way is to just use their browser.
[20:31] <loa> reisio, internal sata drive
[20:31] <Munapaa> I have already installed tor browser, but it cant load any pages
[20:31] <reisio> loa: yeah, sdparm, or even hdparm
[20:31] <loa> it is little noisy
[20:31] <reisio> loa: :)
[20:31] <loa> so i want to turn it off
[20:32] <Munapaa> I tried to get some help from tor-irc, but its too silent in there
[20:32] <dklps2> #list
[20:32] <SchrodingersScat> Munapaa: Should make sure tor is running and connected to the network.
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> Munapaa, tor has two parts I forget their names, make sure all of tor shuts off when you close it.
[20:33] <SchrodingersScat> wilee-nilee: you mean vidalia?
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> I think
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> I never use tor
[20:34] <soman> Can I replace some free space from one ntfs disc to another ntfs with gparted?
[20:34] <Munapaa> Yep, its kinda slow, when it works
[20:34] <soman> I mean resize two partitions
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> soman, you can resize yes, any OS involved?
[20:35] <Calinou> loa: turning off the HDD is not always possible, note that it can reduce its lifespawn
[20:35] <Calinou> span*
[20:35] <Calinou> it usually is disabled by default on desktops
[20:36] <dklps2> hey guys
[20:36] <SchrodingersScat> Calinou: how about 'spinning down the disks'?
[20:36] <soman> wilee-nilee: what do you mean? There is Win used but I want to use ubuntu live cd with gparted
[20:36] <Calinou> by turning off I mean spinning down!
[20:36] <Munapaa> Hey! It started workin when I restarted it :)
[20:36] <Munapaa> thanks anyway
[20:36] <Calinou> wilee-nilee: you don't do upgrades yourself? :P
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> soman, does either ntfs you want to resize have windows on it?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, No all fresh installs much faster and a fresh OS.
[20:37] <soman> wilee-nilee: yes, one of partitions has win installed
[20:37] <Marlenee> i cant use clusterSSH from CLI on ssh Server ?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> soman, Use the windows partitioner then to resize it.
[20:37] <SchrodingersScat> Calinou: ok, I wasn't sure if there was a distinction, i'm guessing that the parm commands probably do this manually then
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> soman, What windows release is it?
[20:37] <soman> wilee-nilee: win 7
[20:38] <Calinou> wilee-nilee: ah, ok, I do that too on my desktop. but last time I upgraded on my netbook and it works fine :)
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> soman, W7 has a partitioner use it to resize itself you can do it from admin live, much safer.
[20:38] <soman> wilee-nilee: built-in partitioner?
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Calinou, upgrade here take about 3-4 hours a fresh install with a saved app list and sources and keys less than an hour and I have a frsh OS. I have all my stuff on externals as well.
[20:40] <cucujoidea> reisio: mate desktop seem not to be in the standard repository and not available for ubuntu 13.10 yet. Is there another possibility to use gnome flashback ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_Flashback ) with xscreensaver?
[20:40] <reisio> cucujoidea: I'd use Xfce
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> soman, Yes windows has a disk management a partitioner. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/gg309170.aspx
[20:41] <ultim8> reisi, ty for the response. I was away. Tell me pls, i just download the game.zip and put it in the dosbox folder?
[20:41] <reisio> ultim8: you can put it most anyplace
[20:41] <reisio> it's sensible to put it into a folder just for dosbox data, though
[20:41] <billboss> hello
[20:41] <cucujoidea> reisio: but with gnome i also have ibus which afaik not working in xfce
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> soman, gparted is great, however it will move stuff locked in a windows install partition that can end up bricking it on occasions, much safer to use the windows app.
[20:41] <ultim8> reisi, how can i know where is my dosbox folder? what's the cmd in terminal? Soz, newbie)
[20:42] <Crazyzurfer> streulma: got this: from apt-get -f install http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266239/ by the way My ubuntu is in spanish :)
[20:42] <reisio> cucujoidea: what do you use ibus for?
[20:42] <reisio> billboss: 'lo
[20:42] <Calinou> Crazyzurfer: handy tip: if you write "LANG=C" before a command (sepearated with a space) it'll be in english.
[20:42] <reisio> ultim8: there's no dedicated folder for game data, you can put it anywhere
[20:42] <Calinou> eg: LANG=C sudo apt-get update
[20:42] <reisio> ultim8: r-e-i-TAB
[20:42] <cucujoidea> reisio: for instance, inputting vietnamese letters
[20:43] <reisio> cucujoidea: what, in a term?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> soman, MOst of all you should have a image/clone of windows as a backup.
[20:43] <Calinou> to set it back, you use LANG=your_language_code, or you close and re open terminal
[20:43] <dustinspringman> so.... i'm using 12.04..... been taking another stab at getting my HDMI port on my optimus based dell laptop to work..... 8 hrs of fail....... I just want to use the hdmi port so I don't have to use the mini-display port adapter... anyone ever been successul at that without the use of bumblebee?
[20:43] <Crazyzurfer> calinou: ok, thanks ;)
[20:43] <ultim8> reisio, soz, didn't get u.
[20:44] <cucujoidea> reisio: characters like ê, ệ, â etc.
[20:44] <Calinou> Crazyzurfer: np :)
[20:44] <gianfranco> Hijacked
[20:45] <FijiFresh> Is there a gnome extension where I can click on a file and get its full path, so I could just cut and past it
[20:45] <reisio> ultim8: type 'r', then 'e', then 'i', then hit TAB
[20:45] <reisio> FijiFresh: I'm sure you could make a script for that and add it to the right-click menu
[20:45] <reisio> cucujoidea: those work fine in Xfce IME
[20:46] <ultim8> reisio, where?
[20:46] <reisio> ultim8: right here
[20:46] <Rexter>  Munapaa, I just loaded TOR today. What king of problem are you having?
[20:46] <SchrodingersScat> FijiFresh: I'm in thunar, but when I copy a file and paste it into a text editor, it has path and filename
[20:46] <ultim8> reisi, ?
[20:47] <Blind1337nedm> how do i start a private chat window?
[20:47] <reisio> Blind1337nedm: /query nick
[20:47] <FijiFresh> hmm Schrodinger, I shall try this
[20:47] <reisio> ultim8: r, e, i, tab
[20:47] <Blind1337nedm> THANK YOU , reisio
[20:48] <ultim8> reisio, i did it, nothing.
[20:48] <FijiFresh> Thanks Schrodinger`Cat
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> FijiFresh: it's one of two options I thought would happen, option B was the binary data being thrown in there :3
[20:48] <FijiFresh> It worked
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> FijiFresh: cool, have fun
[20:48] <pfifo> yay, finally got 13.10 installed
[20:48] <GZA-Genius> Hello, anyone know why pastebin interface is not showing up in Nautilus, I have tried completly removing it and configs, choosing dif setting, retarting nautilus, choosing diff pb server adressess? Any clue how i can figure out wtf is going on?
[20:48] <FijiFresh> For years I did it a very slow way
[20:48] <GZA-Genius> o yea sorry on 13.04 x86_64
[20:49] <reisio> FijiFresh: try opening a terminal, and running ls | xclip -selection clipboard
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> FijiFresh: with pwd, ls, and xclip, you could probably make it easier, depending on how many files you are working with
[20:49] <reisio> schoppenhauer: nb4!
[20:49] <reisio> :p
[20:49] <schoppenhauer> reisio: ?
[20:49] <Schrodinger`Cat> SchrodingersScat, hey
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Schrodinger`Cat: Gentlemen
[20:50] <Facepalm> what file am I editing when using crontab -e
[20:50] <Facepalm> as root
[20:51] <cucujoidea> reisio: thx for taking time, bye
[20:51] <SchrodingersScat> Schrodinger`Cat: you don't know if it's Ski-Ba-Bop-Ba-Dop-Bop or not until you look at it.
[20:52] <GZA-Genius> Facepalm: /var/spool/cron/crontabs
[20:53] <GZA-Genius> Facepalm: should only really add/remove crons by crontab -e when your logged into that users shell
[20:53] <GZA-Genius> Facepalm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[20:53] <reisio> schoppenhauer: meant SchrodingersScat
[20:54] <schoppenhauer> ok
[20:54] <geirha> Facepalm: crontab -e copies the current crontab to somewhere in /tmp, then opens your favorite editor on that file. When you close the editor, it copies that eddited file back over the original.
[20:55] <codephobic> ifhi
[20:55] <codephobic> hi* even
[20:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> http://pastebin.com/whkt0KnV
[20:55] <codephobic> I come bearing fresh woes
[20:57] <sam113101> guys
[20:58] <sam113101> GUYS
[20:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> xorg issue http://pastebin.com/whkt0KnV
[20:58] <k1l_> sam113101: no need for caps. just state your issue
[20:58] <sam113101> k1l_: my home folder is broken
[20:59] <sam113101> I get all sorts of bugs on my current user, but if I create a new user and use it instead, the bugs vanish
[20:59] <linuxlite1969> anyone had any luck running ubuntu touch on motorola M? found a couple links on it, but im VERY n00b at flashing phone OS. if anyone has the patience or a very thorough walk thru i would appreciate it.
[20:59] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: full xorg.log might help
[20:59] <codephobic> using Ubuntu 13.10, Apache2 and php5 where would a "500 internal server error" show up in logs? I've searched for it at /var/log/apache2/error.log but not sure where else to look.
[20:59] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: theres your answer
[20:59] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: what? where?
[20:59] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: im gonna say u delted data in hidden directories in your home folder?
[21:00] <wolter> Should there be any difference in system files between a fresh install of 13.04 updated to 13.10 and a fresh install of 13.10?
[21:00] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: create a new user
[21:00] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: I've had this folder for a long long time
[21:00] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> where is the log
[21:00] <SchrodingersScat> linuxlite1969: no offense, but if you aren't used to messing with your phone, are you sure that's the best place to start?
[21:00] <sam113101> I've had it on OpenSUSE, even
[21:00] <sam113101> kept the same
[21:01] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: well thats not very smart
[21:01] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:01] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: I just wanted to, you know, keep my 500 GB of videos at the same place, without having to get a second drive to do a backup
[21:01] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody know how to get to the reinstallation process? it is a laptop with an luks partition. i opened the partition with the files browser and then started the installation process but i have only the option to erase ubuntu, and for sure the other default options, i mean this way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[21:01] <SchrodingersScat> linuxlite1969: does that even leave you with a functional phone? or are you not worried about that?
[21:02] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: saying your home folder is broken means nothing, im telling you what probably happened for a problem you have yet to say
[21:02] <linuxlite1969> SchrodingersScat: no offense taken, but i dont mind learning and have to start somewhere. not a big fan of my moto anyway and if i brick it, it gives me a reason to tell the lady i need a new one :)
[21:02] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: so if u want a answer better than that your gonna have to be more specific
[21:03] <linuxlite1969> i read a few pages where people have gotten a mostly functional phone out of it. with calls and messaging working. few bugs were upside down camera and video once in a while.
[21:03] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1241252 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241258 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241913
[21:04] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> http://pastebin.com/bPNbqVcg  devil__ im sure its a general xorg issue and not os reloaed, your the first to speak up and offer help out of different rooms
[21:05] <linuxlite1969> i've been rooted for a while, just no customization. did get the bootloader unlocked today as well. just a matter of flashing. when i reboot in to recovery, (with it plugged in to USB, or plug it in after booting to recovery) the phone acts like it has an auto-power supply detection and reboots into android on its own
[21:06] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: can't help with freebsd much, but it seems you need something like bumblebee (in debian) to handle both cards
[21:06] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: sorry not a  13_10 user, u can keep your home folder but clean out all the OS config files and folder before changing systems. all the folders and file in your home dir that are hidden (begin with a ".") can be remove without touching your Personal Data
[21:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> bumblebee?
[21:07] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: a tip for future to start clean, i know that does nothing for you now, but if i were you i would just create new name, move data, and wala
[21:07] <devil__> it will most probably not work in freebsd
[21:07] <sam113101> GZA-Genius: but I want to keep some of those
[21:08] <sam113101> ie. my zshrc file, weechat folder, vimrc, etc.
[21:08] <RickyS_> Unable to install Ubuntu 13.10
[21:08] <SchrodingersScat> GZA-Genius: can't pull things from skel?
[21:08] <sam113101> yeah
[21:08] <RickyS_> Could not download the upgrades
[21:08] <RickyS_> The upgrade has aborted. Please check your Internet connection or installation media and try again. All files downloaded so far have been kept.
[21:08] <RickyS_> Failed to fetch http://releases.ubuntu.spd.co.il/pool/main/a/atkmm1.6/libatkmm-1.6-1_2.22.7-2_amd64.deb 403  Forbidden
[21:08] <sam113101> I think that's what I'm going to do next time
[21:08] <sam113101> just rename my home folder before installing
[21:08] <sam113101> and then move everything I need once it's done
[21:09] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> what does bumblebee do, that might give me an idea what to work on'
[21:09] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: it enables/disables your cards
[21:10] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: yea u can keep that data but keeping it were a system is goin to try and install new data and use the same configs your asking for a problem. Atleast you did not loose data ;)
[21:10] <RickyS_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266391/
[21:10] <devil__> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
[21:11] <k1l_> sam113101: there is no guarantee, that a opensuse /home will work on ubuntu. i would start with a new /home and copy the stuff you need manually
[21:11] <lululaplap___> Best course of action after my saucy install failed during "installing the upgrades" stage?
[21:11] <sam113101> that kind of sucks, though, doesn't it?
[21:11] <sam113101> I thought that was one of the purpose of having a seperate /home partition
[21:11] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: would you rather it work or be easy?
[21:12] <k1l_> sam113101: please keep it family friendly in here. and no, its not a wonder, since its different distros and different config and application versions
[21:12] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: agreed^
[21:12] <OerHeks> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04, devil__ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[21:13] <GZA-Genius> sam113101: that what i was trying to say
[21:13] <jhutchins> k1l_: You keep objecting to that word.  It has been accepted by numerous language authorities including the OED as meaning an attribute of inferior quality, and is not considered obscene by most.
[21:14] <sam113101> can I keep app configs, though? such as firefox, weechat
[21:14] <GZA-Genius> bb, have to try and fix my issue, well ill bb if i survive it that is, good day all
[21:14] <k1l_> sam113101: that depends on that specific programs and that program versions
[21:15] <sam113101> ok
[21:15] <glennop> hi i have a problem with ubuntu not video after upgrade to 13.10.
[21:15] <jhutchins> I don't suppose there's some automated way to generate fstab.  debootstrap left it blank.
[21:16] <RickyS_> Could not download the upgrades
[21:16] <RickyS_> The upgrade has aborted. Please check your Internet connection or installation media and try again. All files downloaded so far have been kept.
[21:16] <RickyS_> Failed to fetch http://releases.ubuntu.spd.co.il/pool/main/a/atkmm1.6/libatkmm-1.6-1_2.22.7-2_amd64.deb 403  Forbidden
[21:16] <RickyS_> Can not install 13.10
[21:16] <Sander^lap> Why do mplayer returns: failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied.. When running as my own user.. and unable to play video.. as root works.
[21:17] <reisio> Sander^lap: probably had a process die oddly in the past
[21:17] <reisio> Sander^lap: chown'ing or even deleting that path will probably fix it
[21:18] <rootdigga> hi - classmenu-indicator no longer works in saucy (only shows some system menus but not the rest). anyone else got the problem?
[21:18] <chrmhoffmann> hi, saucy seems to break the hdmi radeon audio?
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> RickyS_, change the mirrors. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/releases.ubuntu.spd.co.il-archive
[21:18] <chrmhoffmann> i have radeon.audio=1 on the kernel cmdline
[21:19] <chrmhoffmann> but nothing gets out and video/mkv play is fast-forward.
[21:19] <chrmhoffmann> is this a known issue?
[21:19] <RickyS_> I will try a different mirror.  Where do I change it?
[21:19] <sam113101> k1l_: would I run into the same problems if I were to upgrade from ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 without reinstalling (ie. using the updater)?
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> RickyS_, software sources
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> RickyS_, Make sure any 3rd party repos are off as well.
[21:20] <k1l_> sam113101: no. in the upgrade process that is not a problem in most times
[21:21] <sam113101> I've always been afraid that upgrading without reinstalling would break everything
[21:21] <sam113101> because it did happen to me in the past
[21:21] <pfifo> jhutchins: why would you want to automate anything after doing a debootstrap? That defeats the purpose of a debootstrap.
[21:22] <Sander^lap> reisio, thanks alot, it fixed it :-)
[21:22] <SchrodingersScat> sam113101: it's happened to me too, seems to have gotten a little better, still no warranty
[21:22] <k1l_> sam113101: upgrades work in general. there can be some specific problems, but in general it works
[21:22] <Mikey^> Hello
[21:22] <Sander^lap> reisio, chown'ing.:)
[21:22] <reisio> Sander^lap: /run/ stuff is usually just "temporary" files for keeping track of things
[21:22] <reisio> Mikey^: hi
[21:22] <sam113101> ok
[21:22] <Mikey^> I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. I am now unable to login. I have tried my normal user account and guest account. It logins and after 3 or 4 seconds it logs out.
[21:23] <Mikey^> I am now connecting from the command line..
[21:23] <k1l_> Mikey^: see .xsession errors or syslog for more details
[21:23] <k1l_> .xsession-errors
[21:24] <OerHeks> Mikey^, sounds like this .Xautoriy issue > http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop old issue after upgrade
[21:24] <codephobic> Anyone know why json_decode() fails in php, after upgrading to 13.10?
[21:25] <OerHeks> if it is owned by root:root remane it and logout/login again
[21:25] <FreezingCold> Paying $5 for anyone how to teach me how to download this crap on Linux: https://stream.queensu.ca/app/plugin/plugin.aspx?insideIFrame=true&styleSheetUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fstream.queensu.ca%2Fapp%2Fplugin%2Fcss%2FensembleEmbeddedContent.css&contentID=y-YutsJovEuQuZMRlFriOg&embed=true&startTime=0&autoPlay=false&hideControls=false&showCaptions=false&width=640&height=386&q=www.queensu.ca
[21:26] <SchrodingersScat> >fiat
[21:26] <pfifo> a whole $5 :/
[21:26] <Mikey^> OerHeks: its owned by my user account, not by root
[21:27] <devil__> pfifo: do not spend it all at once though ;)
[21:27] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: I haven't investigated, but chromium has a really neat "copy as curl" option in the dev network panel, which can be helpful
[21:27] <Mikey^> k1l_: xsession_errors says Fatal IO error 11 : resource not available
[21:27] <FreezingCold> pfifo: hell $10 if it's done in the next 5 minutes
[21:28] <Mikey^> k1l_: anything I can grep from the syslog file?
[21:28] <Mikey^> its a really large file :)
[21:28] <FreezingCold> SchrodingersScat: sorry where?
[21:29] <TheJoker> exit
[21:29] <Blind1337nedm> BAGPIPES <3
[21:30] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: right click somewhere on the page, inspect element, go to the network tab, play video, sort by size, see if anything big pops up on top, if it does then right click on that file and 'copy as curl' then you only need to open a terminal, paste the curl line, add a place for curl to ouput to (iirc a -O /foo/bar/file ) and you might be good, unless it's some rtmp thing.
[21:30] <pfifo> FreezingCold: to download that kind of stuff, you need to find the URL of the video which is usually hidden inside the source of the page. you can view the source by pressing ctrl+u in most browsers... after having a look at this source, it appears it downloads a javascript, so in this case youll need to look at the source of the javascript that sets up the player to find your target URL.
[21:31] <Blind1337nedm> i was just going to say something similar
[21:31] <Blind1337nedm> for exapmle youtube had a downloader website, so it should be relativly simple
[21:31] <sagar> unable to change screen brightness helP!!
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> pfifo: You can also use some of the many tools to sniff your own network and feed it into something like curl or wget :3  but that is ssl and so it probably wouldn't work in this example :(
[21:31] <FreezingCold> SchrodingersScat: thanks. Oddly enough no file gets bigger after starting the download
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> Blind1337nedm: youtube-dl
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: could be cached if you watched it already
[21:32] <sagar> help unable to change screen brightness
[21:32] <Blind1337nedm> if worse comes to worse just screen record it
[21:32] <FreezingCold> SchrodingersScat: skipping around though?
[21:32] <reisio> probably need rtmpdump
[21:32] <sagar> help unable to change screen brightness
[21:32] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody know how to get to the reinstallation process? it is a laptop with an luks partition. i opened the partition with the files browser and then started the installation process but i have only the option to erase ubuntu, and for sure the other default options, i mean this way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[21:32] <Blind1337nedm> this reminds me of the 90's wow i havent been on irc in forever
[21:32] <sagar> help unable to change screen brightness
[21:33] <devil__> sagar: repeating it will not do a thing
[21:33] <pfifo> !info devscripts
[21:33] <bamprok> alias f5
[21:33] <FreezingCold> reisio: oh?
[21:33] <Blind1337nedm> hey what desktop manager are you using ,sagar
[21:33] <devil__> sagar: giving more info might
[21:33] <sagar> dwsktop manager means??
[21:33] <Blind1337nedm> gnome, unity , kde
[21:33] <SchrodingersScat> Blind1337nedm: there are bbs' that scrollback to the 80's I think, it's like time traveling
[21:34] <sagar> look i am using ubuntu 13.10 amdix64
[21:34] <reisio> FreezingCold: where's the page that got you to that page?
[21:34] <Blind1337nedm> SchrodingersScat: :O AMAZING!!! D:    break out the CMI's and lets get retro
[21:34] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: if it's an rtmp stream then he's correct, you would need something like rtmpdump, which is normally more annoying.
[21:34] <Blind1337nedm> okay, sagar
[21:34] <Blind1337nedm> look at your desktop
[21:34] <Blind1337nedm> is there a bar of icons to your left
[21:35] <Blind1337nedm> or something similar to a start menu at the bottom?
[21:35] <FreezingCold> reisio: http://www.queensu.ca/registrar/currentstudents/convocation/websim/Cer13.html
[21:35] <sagar> yes
[21:35] <sagar> no
[21:35] <reisio> https://www.google.com/search?q=%22rtmpdump%22%20%22queensu.ca%22 produces this pastebin content: rtmpdump -r rtmp://streaming.queensu.ca/vod -a vod -y mp4:streams/virtual/psyc-20111025-143006-015_1.mp4 -o PSYCWeek7.mp4 -V
[21:35] <Blind1337nedm> yes you have icons to the side?
[21:35] <reisio> which works fine, so you could potentially adapt it for your different data
[21:35] <Blind1337nedm> okay you are using unity i assume.
[21:35] <FreezingCold> schoppenhauer: hmmm
[21:36] <schoppenhauer> FreezingCold: ?
[21:36] <FreezingCold> oh sorry that was for reisio
[21:36] <sagar> what is unity
[21:36] <Blind1337nedm> its a desktop manager
[21:36] <Blind1337nedm> hmm okay
[21:36] <sagar> okkk
[21:36] <Blind1337nedm> put it this way
[21:36] <reisio> presumably the path is in this .json file
[21:37] <sagar> okk
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> do you know how windows 8 has that shitty tile desktop think
[21:37] <reisio> rtmp://content.queensu.ca/ensemble/OFFICEOFTHEUNIVERSITYREGISTRAR/Watch/june10am.mp4
[21:37] <sagar> no
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> but you can change it to have regular icons
[21:37] <reisio> Blind1337nedm: icons?
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> those are desktop managers
[21:37] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: nice ;)
[21:37] <FreezingCold> reisio: did that work?
[21:37] <sagar> okk
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> anyways
[21:37] <reisio> FreezingCold: no you still need the magic rtmpdump syntax
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> click DASH HOME
[21:37] <reisio> but that's probably the path that will get you half way there
[21:37] <Blind1337nedm> and type settings
[21:38] <sagar> yes i typed
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm> actually
[21:38] <FreezingCold> reisio: hold on
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm> sorry i just tried and you cannot change the brightness thru that
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm>   but
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm> if you know how to use the terminal
[21:38] <FreezingCold> reisio: where diy uo find that url?
[21:38] <Blind1337nedm> this is a helpful article : http://askubuntu.com/questions/145314/how-to-save-brightness-settings
[21:38] <codephobic> Anyone know why json_decode() fails in php, after upgrading to 13.10?
[21:39] <Blind1337nedm> i cannot upgrade my laptop, it puts all the 13.xx files on my HDD
[21:40] <FreezingCold> reisio: ERROR: Closing connection: NetStream.Play.StreamNotFound
[21:40] <Blind1337nedm> then it FORMATS THE WHOLE THING
[21:40] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: sometimes I try to catch the rtmp stream with tcpdump, then work with it later
[21:40] <FreezingCold> SchrodingersScat: see I tried to do that too, except it's in freaking https
[21:40] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: sudo tcpflow -i <interface> port 1935
[21:41] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: did I say tcpdump? i meant tcpflow...i'm running it now while i watch that video, I have a 5.1MB file so far.
[21:41] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: decoding it is the :( part
[21:42] <reisio> FreezingCold: in a json file that's downloaded
[21:43] <chrmhoffmann> is there no poor amd guy here that has some speakers hooked up via hdmi and could tell me a  workaround?
[21:43] <chrmhoffmann> saucy upgrade breaks hdmi audio AFAIK
[21:44] <codephobic> is there a json fix for php 5.5 for ubuntu 13.10?
[21:44] <Blind1337nedm> hey
[21:44] <Blind1337nedm> i heard poor amd guy
[21:44] <FreezingCold> reisio: hmm, why doesn't ' rtmpdump -r rtmp://content.queensu.ca/ensemble/OFFICEOFTHEUNIVERSITYREGISTRAR/Watch/june10am.mp4 -o IHATETHIS.mp4 -v' work?
[21:45] <chrmhoffmann> Blind1337nedm, ;)
[21:45] <reisio> FreezingCold: 'cause :)
[21:45] <Blind1337nedm> lol'd @ "IHATETHIS.mp4"
[21:45] <Schalla> Haha
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> drm protected videos from a university?
[21:45] <FreezingCold> Blind1337nedm: the most annoying part is that I don't even want the video. It's a gift for my father's birthday
[21:45] <FreezingCold> Dr_Willis: of freaking graduation
[21:45] <reisio> it'd be pretty odd if the method used at http://pastebin.com/GXPHNiM1 weren't at least partially applicable
[21:46] <reisio> they probably just bought the first streaming nonsense software they found
[21:46] <FreezingCold> reisio: the annoying as hell part is that flowplayer *is* free
[21:46] <pfifo> reisio: it was like the IT students learning about streaming and drm
[21:47] <loa> how i can rebuild third party modules for ubuntu?
[21:47] <loa> someone said command to me, but i forgot it
[21:47] <Blind1337nedm> FreezingCold: ouf!   I would just get a screen recorder old people cannot define resolution well
[21:47] <Blind1337nedm> he wouldnt be losing anything:P
[21:48] <FreezingCold> ugh but that would take over an hour and a ton of hd space
[21:48] <Blind1337nedm> hmmm
[21:48] <FreezingCold> he's probably going to try and share the shitty video
[21:48] <FreezingCold> because that's what old people do
[21:48]  * pfifo is an old person and requires HD video
[21:48] <pfifo> :(
[21:48] <Schalla> Yeah - On Instragram
[21:48] <high_fiver> lol
[21:48] <Blind1337nedm> hey
[21:48] <Schalla> Like all the hip-dads do.
[21:48] <Schalla> :D
[21:48] <Blind1337nedm> the flv file is hosted on that site right?
[21:49] <Blind1337nedm> just goto ftp and snatch the file
[21:49] <FreezingCold> Blind1337nedm: orly?
[21:49] <Schalla> If the ftp allows anno access, yes.
[21:49] <Schalla> Else, no.
[21:49] <Blind1337nedm> hmmm
[21:49] <Schalla> FreezingCold: How you access the file normally?
[21:50] <Blind1337nedm> you can get a google chrome plug in to download any FLV,, works with firefox too
[21:50] <FreezingCold> Schalla: https://stream.queensu.ca/app/plugin/plugin.aspx?insideIFrame=true&styleSheetUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fstream.queensu.ca%2Fapp%2Fplugin%2Fcss%2FensembleEmbeddedContent.css&contentID=y-YutsJovEuQuZMRlFriOg&embed=true&startTime=0&autoPlay=false&hideControls=false&showCaptions=false&width=640&height=386&q=www.queensu.ca
[21:50] <FreezingCold> Blind1337nedm: did not work
[21:50] <Schalla> whooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> well they work with most flv's ;)
[21:50] <wolter> Should there be any difference in system files between a fresh install of 13.04 updated to 13.10 and a fresh install of 13.10?
[21:50] <Schalla> Link of doomness
[21:50] <reisio> Blind1337nedm: not any :p
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> theres also sites, that you give the url and the site grabs the stuff for you
[21:51] <Blind1337nedm> wolter: yes i think your device would still carry some older files
[21:51] <FreezingCold> reisio: $25 if you figure it out before I come back from dinner (like 20 minutes)
[21:51] <reisio> heh
[21:51] <reisio> what's for dinner?
[21:51] <FreezingCold> paypal gift, I'll pay the fee
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> vegimite samiches
[21:51] <Blind1337nedm> biscotti and liquor
[21:51] <wolter> Blind1337nedm: and is there a tool to get rid of them?
[21:51] <reisio> heh
[21:52] <FreezingCold> reisio: please man, it's a gift :(
[21:52] <Blind1337nedm> wolter:  not that i know of but i havent really looked
[21:52] <FreezingCold> reisio: heh, someone claimed they got it working for me
[21:52] <FreezingCold> we'll see if he really did or not
[21:52] <reisio> FreezingCold: with rtmpdump?
[21:52] <paul_> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 13.10 i386 (on a fresh install) earlier today. Everything seemed to install fine, except that I cannot open the Software and Updates setting; nor can I download from the software center. Furthermore, the software updater doesn't open either. I use Xubuntu on my Desktop PC so I am comfortable with how Ubuntu and Linux work (and not afraid of the command line) but everything that I have tried today has been unsuccessful. Can anyone hel
[21:52] <paul_> p me?
[21:52] <FreezingCold> reisio: with some shitty plugin on windows
[21:53] <wolter> I just made a clean install of 13.04 because updating from 12.10 to 13.04 yielded some unheard-of problems, I don't want the same to happen if I upgrade to 13.10
[21:53] <reisio> FreezingCold: well that's cheating
[21:53] <dklps2> windows is shit
[21:53] <wolter> Blind1337nedm: thanks then!
[21:53] <dklps2> :)
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> !language
[21:53] <dklps2> german?
[21:53] <Blind1337nedm> paul_: have you checked your repositories?
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> do you know how to add respositories with the terminal?
[21:54] <elb0w> If I want to put gnome 3 on ubuntu 13.04 but im using unity is there a guide anywhere?
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> YES
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> I JUST DID IT
[21:54] <paul_> yes, but I'm not sure of which ones to add
[21:54] <jhutchins> wolter: You might want to lurk here and watch the trouble reports on 13.10 for a while first.
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  should be guides at askubuntu.com and webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> elb0w: i had a guy remote do it to my pc last night
[21:54] <SchrodingersScat> FreezingCold: now would be a good time to donate to rtmpdump
[21:54] <sagar> No brightness change using hardware key and xbacklight
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> but i hate gnome
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  and gnome3 is included on 13.04 -
[21:54] <Blind1337nedm> HATE IT
[21:54] <conner_bw> Hi anyone with bug triaging capability in launchpad here?
[21:54] <sagar> No brightness change using hardware key and xbacklight
[21:54] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: yeah I saw that, but I wasnt sure if I just had to enable it or not
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  its in the repos if you mean 'gnome-shell'
[21:55] <wolter> jhutchins: perhaps :( 13.10 doesn't pack features I envy anyway. Unless LibreOffice menus are fixed
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  unity uses gnome3
[21:55] <sagar> No brightness change using hardware key and xbacklight
[21:55] <jhutchins> sagar: We heard you the first time.  Your hotkeys are not automatically detected.
[21:55] <conner_bw> Need bug #1240645 moved to "Unity", not "Light themes" :(
[21:55] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: Ah ok
[21:55] <Blind1337nedm> sagar: it might be only setting is your monitor
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  now getting the latest gnome  3.10 that will take more work.
[21:55] <wolter> All in all, I see 13.10 pretty much as a unity update
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  and if you want the latest gnome - you may want to uopgrade to 13.10 ubuuntu and test out their 3.8 first
[21:55] <sagar> no i am follwing the same procedure i use to do in 12.10 but not working same in 13.10
[21:56] <pfifo> wolter: I just did a fresh install of saucy so that I can try out mir
[21:56] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: No I have been out of the loop in linux for a bit, just got back in. I was having problems getting some software to work with my mac book pro trackpad because of how unity intercepts some gestures
[21:56] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: Ill just live with this I guess
[21:56] <wolter> pfifo: yeah, I use nvidia :(
[21:56] <wolter> pfifo: how is it, by the way?
[21:57] <pfifo> wolter: im downloading 725mb of dev packages right now... will begin building shortly (if you meant 13.10, its ok, nothing special imo)]
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> elb0w:  what gestures? i cant recall seeing unity using any.
[21:57] <paul_> I can't download anything from the software centre; can anyone help?
[21:57] <high_fiver> Dr_Willis, er two fingure scroll :p
[21:58] <high_fiver> *finger
[21:58] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: I want to use 3 finger gestures
[21:58] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: Ill dig up the software one sec
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> high_fiver:  that works for me on my netbook. but personally - i turn off my touchpad and use a mouse
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> i cant even get 3 fingers on my touchpad. ;)
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> may as well just use my whole hand. ;P
[21:59] <high_fiver> 3 fingers aint supported yo
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> paul_: run a update and upgrade from the cli and pastebin all of it.
[22:00] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: https://code.google.com/p/touchegg/ is what I want to use, https://code.google.com/p/touchegg/wiki/FAQ shows some settings that should enable it so you can use the software but it doesnt. I had done some digging and actually changed the unity source and reloaded it. But that didnt work either
[22:01] <munerf> i've updated my ppc lubuntu installation to 13.10 and lost network. when i boot the machine I goes into X but I cannot go to a terminal, and ctrl-alt-fn shortcut does not work (probably because i have an apple keyboard)
[22:01] <high_fiver> wtf "this vid is private"
[22:01] <high_fiver> 1st link
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> !language | high_fiver
[22:01] <high_fiver> sorry!
[22:02] <ampw> if an external hdmi tv isnt appearing then the problem myst be a driver?
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> ampw:  or a bad cable
[22:03] <ampw> i have two working cables, i tried installing the intel on board drivers
[22:04] <ampw> but it says i am missing a dependency
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> ampw:  most intel drivers are included by default.
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> ampw:  this is on a laptop?
[22:04] <ampw> yes
[22:04] <ampw> it was working before
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> tried that fn-monitor toggle button on the kbyarod?
[22:04] <ampw> on mint, then it messedup on mint so i installed ubuntu
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> keybord
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> also the monitors setting tool might show it.
[22:05] <ampw> i tried :
[22:05] <paul_> http://pastebin.com/HNJwhF0B
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> also make sure the tv is pluggd in and powered on when the pc boots.
[22:05] <ampw> okay
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> other then that - im out iof ideas
[22:05] <ampw> i will reboot now
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> mymachines tend to Default to the HDMI tv.  which is annoying at times
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> !pm | paul_
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> I don't pm
[22:06] <paul_> okay
[22:06] <jose> hey guys, are there any known problems with unicode in saucy? because the behaviour is weird right now, when I press Ctrl+Shift+ue9, for example, it auto-deletes
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> paul_: and don't just assume someone does and link
[22:07] <munerf> can anyone help me?
[22:08] <paul_> I'm pretty sure you PMed me first, wilee-nilee
[22:08] <fahadash> munerf: Have you already asked your question ?
[22:08] <munerf> yes
[22:08] <pfifo> plut
[22:08] <pfifo> oops
[22:09] <fahadash> Never used an Apple keyboard on ubuntu, but a google query for "going to tty1 with apple keyboard" might bring up something
[22:09] <munerf> is there any way
[22:09] <jetro__> is ubuntu better at automating stuff than windows?
[22:09] <munerf> I can stop ubuntu from booting in X?
[22:09] <kostkon> jetro__, what do oyu mean by that
[22:09] <munerf> from yaboot
[22:09] <bekks> !nox | munerf
[22:09] <k1l_> !text | munerf
[22:10] <munerf> it's a ppc
[22:10] <elb0w> Dr_Willis: this is what I was referring to http://elscreemo.blogspot.com/2013/05/restoring-three-finger-gesture-in.html
[22:11] <jetro__> kostkon, since you can create bash scripts with ubuntu, is it easier to automate tasks like, open up a webpage logon with your user name and pass, and then navigate somewhere (so you don't have to do this over and over)
[22:12] <jetro__> or say I wanted to check the weather, can I create a terminal command called weather that gives me the weather, so I don't have to google it
[22:12] <SchrodingersScat> jetro__: you might be looking for a program named 'curl'
[22:13] <pfifo> jetro__: I find it to be much easier to do that sort of thing in linux than in windows
[22:13] <wolter> pfifo: oh you have to _build_ Mir?
[22:13] <ampw> can you make ubuntu detect displays?
[22:13] <ampw> on terminal
[22:13] <pfifo> wolter: no, you dont... I want to
[22:13] <bluechaos> hello guys
[22:13] <spongebob58> hi all. just wondering if someone can help me with mounting a samba share from my win 7 pc so that it auto mounts on ubuntu startup. from what i can gather, i need to edit the fstab file, but the combinations dont seem to be working,
[22:13] <wolter> oh ok haha
[22:14] <pfifo> wolter: might join the team and start coding it, if it looks promising
[22:14] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~/Desktop$ sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.8.2-2-installer.run -C /opt
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar (child): xampp-linux-1.8.2-2-installer.run: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar: Child returned status 2
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:14] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~/Desktop$
[22:14] <FloodBot1> bluechaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <wolter> pfifo that sounds awesome, I wish nVidia helped to make Mir work with proprietary drivers
[22:14] <bluechaos> soz
[22:14] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~/Desktop$ sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.8.2-2-installer.run -C /opt
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar (child): xampp-linux-1.8.2-2-installer.run: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar: Child returned status 2
[22:14] <FloodBot1> bluechaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <bluechaos> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:14] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~/Desktop$
[22:14] <wolter> (or that nVidia helped further the nouveau project)
[22:15] <jetro__> SchrodingersScat, with curl can you record browsing activity and then replay it. Say for example, I need to logon to a website and then navigate somewhere often. Can I do that once, have curl log that, then replay it as a terminal command so that a web browser opens up at the final page that I am interested in?
[22:15] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266733/
[22:15] <k1l_> !paste | bluechaos
[22:15] <munerf> i dont think i have grub only yaboot
[22:15] <bluechaos> I paste it
[22:15] <bluechaos> see now ?
[22:15] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266733/
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> wolter  i havent followed, but tip: there's also #ubuntu-mir
[22:15] <k1l_> !xampp | bluechaos
[22:16] <mcgrathj> Is it appropriate to ask about the use of pgp keys in apt-get/apt-key? If not, any suggestions where to ask?
[22:16] <AlwaysSunny> Hey
[22:16] <wolter> MonkeyDust: interesting, will check
[22:17] <mojtaba> Hi after upgrading to 13.10 when my laptop wake up after sleep the network become disconnected and needs a restart to be connected again. Do you know what should I do? (dell studio 1555)
[22:17] <pfifo> its not a very active channel
[22:17] <AlwaysSunny> Would there be any way to remove Ubuntu's top bar on a secondary screen?
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> AlwaysSunny: no it's part of the desktop.
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> not without a unknown hack anyway
[22:18] <bluechaos> k1l_,
[22:18] <AlwaysSunny> Hmm, okay. That's a shame because I don't really need it
[22:18] <nisio> mojtaba: ethernet cable?
[22:18] <bluechaos> if I  install this  sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[22:19] <mojtaba> nisio: wifi
[22:19] <bluechaos> can I join in desktop too ?
[22:19] <bluechaos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> AlwaysSunny: many desktops
[22:19] <ChogyDan> AlwaysSunny: you can try unity tweak tool, there might be an option there: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/introducing-unity-tweak-tool
[22:19] <nisio> mojtaba: you might be able to connect to the web through the ethernet cable without restarting
[22:20] <k1l_> bluechaos: if you install a desktop enviroment you can log into the desktop, yes
[22:20] <ChogyDan> bluechaos: that command just adds to your current install.  It doesn't remove anything
[22:20] <mojtaba> nisio: Yes but the problem is that, even when I reset the wifi with hardware, it does not work.
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> ChogyDan: hardly, due the research
[22:20] <bluechaos> but that command don`t work for me
[22:21] <k1l_> bluechaos: what does not work and brings what error?
[22:21] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~$ sudo tasksel
[22:21] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~$
[22:21] <bluechaos> I've been try to install with this ..
[22:21] <bluechaos> but don`t work
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> ive heard to be very carefull with 'tasksel'  :)
[22:21] <k1l_> bluechaos: please put into a pastebin: "lsb_release -a" and "uname -a"
[22:22] <nisio> mojtaba: I don't know what else you then, sorry
[22:22] <bluechaos> lsb module is not installed in this system ..
[22:22] <mojtaba> nisio: Don't you know how can I fix this problem permanently?
[22:22] <k1l_> bluechaos: please pastebin all the output
[22:22] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~$ lsb_release
[22:22] <bluechaos> No LSB modules are available.
[22:22] <bluechaos> bluechaos@BlueChaosPVS:~$
[22:22] <ChogyDan> bluechaos: I figured you would be running `sudo tasksel install lamp-server` sorry
[22:23] <k1l_> bluechaos: is this even a ubuntu install?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> bluechaos  lsb is installed by default on ubuntu... what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> bluechaos:  the command was 'lsb_release -a'
[22:23] <bluechaos> k just wait
[22:23] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266766/
[22:24] <k1l_> bluechaos: you need to read and write _exactly_ what is written. if you just read half of that advices and keep half of the commands you will break your system
[22:24] <k1l_> bluechaos: did you install tasksel before?  (like this is mentioned in the site the bot gave you)
[22:24] <nisio> mojtaba: this site might help you http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/fix-wireless-or-wired-network-not.html
[22:24] <bluechaos> k1l_,  no
[22:25] <k1l_> bluechaos: so start reading the site from the beginning. dont just look for commands somewhere in the middle. read the site!
[22:25] <mojtaba> nisio: I will check it, thanks
[22:25] <bluechaos> I have allready installed mysql ,phpmyadmin/
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> 'read and follow label directions' if you want your pie to be 'brown and delicous' ;)
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:27] <bluechaos> omg
[22:36] <munerf> anyone here has experience with yaboot?
[22:36] <chare> ok guys why is Saucy datetime indicator missing?
[22:37] <chare> I've just noticed that in the top right the time indicator is missing
[22:37] <chare> WHY
[22:38] <trism> chare: bug 1239710
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | munerf
[22:38] <chare> so Saucy was "rushed out" no testing nice job
[22:39] <bekks> chare: Because one bug was not fixed? :)
[22:39] <munerf> I need help with yaboot to make my instalation boot into text mode
[22:39] <pfifo> chare: its my fault
[22:39] <jhutchins> chare: Did you contribute to the testing?
[22:39] <chare> I contribute to the complaining
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> pfifo: hehe, I thought so
[22:40] <sam113101> guys
[22:40] <sam113101> GUYS
[22:40] <chsados> can anyone help me remove this icon screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/RV02pMp.png
[22:41] <mojtaba> One un-related quesiton: could you please let me know how can I join ##java channel? It says you need to register. (How should I register?) Thanks
[22:41] <sam113101> I need help
[22:41] <k1l_> !register | mojtaba
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> munerf: the channel works with you detailing what you have tried....etc
[22:41] <k1l_> sam113101: just state your issue with details into the channel. that was told alot of times to you
[22:41] <sam113101> I want my home folder to be on my hard drive but my config files to be on my ssd
[22:41] <pfifo> chsados: right click it, choose text entry settings, uncheck box at bottom of that dialog
[22:42] <sam113101> I don't know what would be the easiest, cleanest way of doing it
[22:42] <chsados> thanks pfifo !
[22:43] <Schalla> FreezingCold: Queried you
[22:43] <magdur> guys i cant update ubuntu 13.10
[22:43] <kostkon> magdur, be more specific please
[22:43] <kostkon> magdur, what errors are you getting. if you need to paste them, use paste.ubuntu.com
[22:47] <magdur> kostkon, i solved it
[22:47] <kostkon> magdur, gj
[22:48] <sam113101> how big should my / partition be?
[22:48] <pfifo> sam113101: I use 8192mb
[22:49] <genii> Depends how many apps you're planning to install
[22:49] <sam113101> only a few
[22:49] <Schalla> sami113101: That depends totally on your strucutre.
[22:49] <sam113101> and /home is going to be on a separate partition
[22:49] <Schalla> ah okay.
[22:49] <Schalla> that i wanted to ask.
[22:50] <sam113101> ;p
[22:50] <sam113101> would 10 GB be fine?
[22:50] <pero> is it possible to install okular without the rest of KDE in its entirety?
[22:50]  * Schalla never understood why to seperate / and /home
[22:50] <chare> lets talk about how ubuntu is going to beat windows
[22:50] <Schalla> \o
[22:50] <sam113101> so I can reinstall without having to do a backup
[22:50] <Schalla> \o/
[22:51] <devil__> pero: no
[22:51] <trism> pero: yes it just installs kde-runtime
[22:51] <MGMT> !ot | MGMT
[22:51] <Schalla> sam113101: Hum - How much space your hdd has?
[22:51] <genii> chare: If it's not directly regarding tech support, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:51] <trism> pero: I use it here in unity and I don't have a kde session
[22:52] <pfifo> Schalla: so that you can have both 12.04 and 13.10 installed and have the same homefolder on both
[22:52] <Schalla> I would suggest rather to give it more space and resize it later if required
[22:52] <sam113101> Schalla: ssd has 120 GB, hdd has 1 TB, I plan on putting both / and /home on the ssd
[22:52] <pero> so i can use it without actually being in KDE, but I need to download and install and keep KDE?
[22:52] <sam113101> but move videos and music to the hdd
[22:52] <Schalla> Always keep in mind you can resize with GParted easily
[22:52] <sam113101> and maybe symlink them to my home folder
[22:52] <Schalla> Never had a problem >>>YET<<< with resizing a partition from high to low
[22:52] <devil__> pero: you need kde-libraries
[22:52] <blarghl> debug1: Trying private key: /home/user/.ssh/id_dsa.feral
[22:52] <blarghl> no such t -clear
[22:53] <blarghl> whoops, my bad
[22:53] <pfifo> sam113101: 10GB is fine. anything above 4gb is acceptable
[22:53] <sam113101> ok
[22:53] <trism> pero: no, only the kde-runtime, not all of the kde environment
[22:53] <sam113101> thanks
[22:53] <trism> pero: it is relatively small by comparison
[22:53] <pero> it's asking for 191 mb of stuff
[22:53] <Schalla> "stuff" is always perfect and totally necessary.
[22:54] <kostkon> pero, but you might get a couple of extra running processes after that
[22:54] <Kuroshita> hey guys, I'm trying to theme gnome shell 3.8 in ubuntu but the window bar isn't themeing. Is there a trick to it?
[22:54] <Kuroshita> I have just installed Zukitwo theme
[22:55] <pero> http://pastebin.com/cYRSUCeM
[22:56] <kostkon> pero, a lot of stuff unfortunately
[22:57] <pfifo> I like how recovery mode drops you to a root shell without prompting for a password.
[23:00] <orgon> hi @ all
[23:00] <orgon> anybody use her xbmc
[23:00] <orgon> #???
[23:01] <orgon> ok all drunk or coding ..
[23:01] <kostkon> !patience
[23:01] <pfifo> no one will answer that question
[23:02] <orgon> hmm
[23:02] <orgon> wrong channel
[23:02] <kostkon> orgon, ask the real question
[23:02] <MonkeyDust> orgon  type     /msg alis list *xbmc*     <-- with the asterisks
[23:04] <Paddy_NI> Can anyone tell me why I am still getting the same facebook notifications over and over again on ubuntu 12.10
[23:04] <Paddy_NI> err.. 13.10
[23:04] <Paddy_NI> Every so often it will pop up and tell me a notification from last week
[23:05] <orgon> is it possible if i us an fritz-box-router ( i hate this  brand )  connected to an usb-drive  ,,, xbmc find the files all fine but i cant any movie scraper get working
[23:05]  * ablyss :|
[23:05] <orgon> sorry for my english ,, much work for dad and here was little party after that
[23:06] <orgon> and im from austria not austrialia
[23:10] <Patero-ng> I have 2 harddrives that use to be used as raid0 they're both 200gb each the problem is all partition managers still see them as a raid and some even see one of them as empty unallocated space but I'm using both as individial HD now I can't administer like I should... how to make them appear as individual volumens again?
[23:12] <pfifo> Patero-ng: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[23:13] <linuxtech> Can I attach to a dpkg process?  How can I rescue an Kubuntu upgrade from raring to saucy when Xwindows crashed? Occured from starting a java application and being prompted for a configuration change in NetworkManager just prior to Xwindows crashing. (this is kj, linuxtech's brother).  See:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266977/
[23:15] <jrib> linuxtech: start with "dpkg --configure -a"
[23:15] <boodroscotch> Hi, I recently did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10, and for some reason a while later an inaccessable login option called "LightDM Display Manager" showed up on the login screen. Is there any way to get rid of it?
[23:21] <BrianH> Hey guys.  Because 13.10 server install is disabling my USB keyboard during install, I'm attempting to preseed the entire installation.  It keeps stopping at entering a hostname.  Is there a preseed setting for this?
[23:22] <BrianH> I'm using "d-i netcfg/get_hostname string foo", but it's not working.
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> BrianH  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[23:27] <BrianH> MonkeyDust: awesome, didn't know that channel existed. :)  Thanks.
[23:28] <DarylXian> Where/how can I contact a launchpad sysadmin?  Any to be found in here?
[23:29] <trism> DarylXian: maybe #launchpad
[23:31] <JoeyMonkey> hello everyone
[23:32] <JoeyMonkey> any one here?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> 1719 people here
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> - the bots
[23:32] <JoeyMonkey> right on
[23:32] <JoeyMonkey> im intrested in helping develope this software
[23:32] <JoeyMonkey> who do i need to talk to?
[23:32] <MonkeyDust> !contribute
[23:33] <JoeyMonkey> right on
[23:33] <guest__> I have a high resolution screen. How do I increase the dpi of Ubuntu 13.10?
[23:33] <linuxtech> Killed the dpkg procees and ran --configure -a which prompted me for changes to Network Manager.  do-release-upgrade results in no new release available and there's nothing to install or remove in running apt-get upgrade.  How do I confirm it's done and the find what to remove?
[23:33] <JoeyMonkey> so can any one tell me why there is such a lag between the time you click on an item and it being ececuted?
[23:33] <FijiFresh> Is ranch dressing on french fries any good?
[23:33] <JoeyMonkey> wtf
[23:34] <Random832> FijiFresh: yes
[23:34] <JoeyMonkey> ranch on frenchfries?
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> FijiFresh:  Yes.
[23:34] <JoeyMonkey> really
[23:34] <FijiFresh> No ketchup here, don't feel like going out
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> with bacon!
[23:34] <FijiFresh> Thanks guys
[23:34] <JoeyMonkey> ranch is bomb on ff
[23:34] <FijiFresh> I shall try this
[23:34] <JoeyMonkey> but in the mean time is there any techs here?
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> JoeyMonkey:  we are all kinds of support peoples in here. ;)
[23:35] <Schalla> Define "techs" JoeyMonkey?
[23:35] <JoeyMonkey> sweet....ok first of all what language is this program written in
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> JoeyMonkey:  Ubuntu is an operating system.. not a 'program'
[23:35] <JoeyMonkey> well yes i am aware of this
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> Most linux disrots are useing C, C++ and lots of scripting languages.
[23:36] <JoeyMonkey> ok great so how would i find somone that would want to collabrate on this with me
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> Python and bash are the most common scripting bits. :) perl and others are also common
[23:37] <Schalla> With what?
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> JoeyMonkey:  you havent given us any details at all.
[23:37] <JoeyMonkey> well i want to make the execution time faster
[23:37] <JoeyMonkey> and boot loading
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> excution time of what?
[23:37] <JoeyMonkey> its freakin crazy slow
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> my system boots in under 20 sec..
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> its crazy freaking fast here.
[23:38] <JoeyMonkey> yes dr willis but it should be under 9 secs
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> JoeyMonkey:  why should it?
[23:38] <Marlenee> how can i copy all scroll back in screen tool ??
[23:38] <JoeyMonkey> and execution should be like as soon as you click
[23:38] <Schalla> JoeyMonkey: Wrong Linux Distro
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> execution is as soon as i click here.. unless its some huge app.
[23:39] <OerHeks> JoeyMonkey, depends on what item you click, what program or services have to start.
[23:39] <kostkon> JoeyMonkey, with an ssd it is
[23:39] <JoeyMonkey> ubunto like 12 somthing
[23:39] <DarylXian> trism thx, tried.  not reply so far ...
[23:39] <Schalla> Really 12 Sec, incredeible slow.
[23:39] <JoeyMonkey> no its distro 12
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> firefox  on my netbook.  (slow hd) takes like 20 sec to load the first time.
[23:40] <Schalla> http://xtrabuntu.blogspot.de/2013/03/faster-boot-time-ubuntu-1204.html
[23:40] <JoeyMonkey> takes like 5+ seconds to get anything to execute
[23:40] <kostkon> JoeyJoeJo, something is wrong probably
[23:40] <kostkon> oops
[23:40] <kostkon> JoeyMonkey, ^^
[23:40] <Blind1337nedm> hey
[23:40] <Blind1337nedm> guys
[23:40] <JoeyMonkey> i thought somthing wrong too
[23:40] <trism> DarylXian: yeah it can be slow in that room but they usually reply eventually
[23:41] <DarylXian> will idle ...
[23:41] <Blind1337nedm> some guy put gnome on my ubuntu last night and now when i go back to unity desktop isnt supported
[23:41] <JoeyMonkey> guys i dont have alot of time right now
[23:41] <Blind1337nedm> WHAT DO?
[23:41] <Patero-ng> yes pfifo
[23:41] <JoeyMonkey> but ill be back to throw out some ideas
[23:41] <Patero-ng> one sec
[23:41] <JoeyMonkey> thanks
[23:41]  * JoeyMonkey out
[23:41] <Patero-ng> actually linux hangs my computer
[23:41] <Schalla> Blind1337nedm: Rape the guy who installed Gnome
[23:41] <Schalla> ^^
[23:41] <Marlenee> hello anbody know how can i copy all scroll back in screen tool its more than 8000 lines ??
[23:42] <Schalla> He removed Unity?
[23:42] <xous> Marlenee: it's gone
[23:42] <Pwnna> how do i check what my mesa version is?
[23:42] <xous> you'd have to increase the scrollback first
[23:42] <spongebob58> can someone help me with mounting a smb share in my ubuntu? i just cant seem to get it to work.
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> gnome wont break unity.. driv er updates could...
[23:42] <Blind1337nedm> Schalla: no i get the option to use gnome , gnome classic , or unity
[23:42] <Schalla> Blind1337nedm: And what you miss?
[23:42] <Blind1337nedm> i used to just have unity
[23:42] <Schalla> Oh.
[23:42] <Blind1337nedm> i miss putting the folder on my desktop
[23:43] <Blind1337nedm> just for easy access its a pretty busy folder
[23:43] <Schalla> Blind1337nedm:
[23:43] <Schalla> Check /usr/share/xsessions
[23:43] <kostkon> Pwnna, install mesa-utils, then give glxinfo
[23:44] <guest__> I have a high resolution screen. How do I increase the dpi of Ubuntu 13.10?
[23:44] <Pwnna> hm
[23:44] <Pwnna> 9.2.1
[23:44] <Blind1337nedm> Schalla: check it for what?
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> guest__:  checked askubuntu.com yet?
[23:44] <Pwnna> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70151 anyone know about this?
[23:44] <kostkon> Pwnna, if you are using a open source driver, it will show the mesa version
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> guest__:  i cant recall ever needing to mess with the dpi setting in years
[23:44] <Schalla> Blind1337nedm: Take a look at it, it allows to edit the possible sessions
[23:44] <Pwnna> i'm not sure if my symptom matches that, but my bug got marked as a dup of that
[23:45] <Schalla> guest__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197828/how-to-find-and-change-the-screen-dpi
[23:45] <OerHeks> Blind1337nedm, you can drag any folder to your desktop, you did not try it ?
[23:45] <Marlenee> xous : no its not i can see it by pushing on PageUp button in my keyboard .
[23:45] <guest__> Dr_Willis: There is a solution for 12.04 (what you posted) but it didn't work for the liveusb. Let me check the install.
[23:45] <Blind1337nedm> OerHeks: of course i did! :P    it doesnt let me
[23:45] <guest__> Dr_Willis: Everything is WAY to tiny on this laptop.
[23:45] <kostkon> guest__, maybe unity-tweak or ubuntu-tweak allows you to do that
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> guest__:  I run things at the native res of the monitor with very few issues.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> make your fonts bigger? ;)
[23:46] <guest__> koston: Which is the best of those tools, myunity, ubuntu-tweak, unity-tweak, etc?
[23:46] <xous> Marlenee: then just use hardcopy
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> guest__:  try them all.. they all differ in little ways
[23:46] <kostkon> guest__, try them all and devide yourself
[23:46] <guest__> Alrighty then
[23:46] <Blind1337nedm> ^ i agree with above
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> bbl.
[23:48] <spongebob58> can someone help me with mounting a smb share in my ubuntu? i just cant seem to get it to work.
[23:49] <Marlenee> xous : i cant do hardcopy it more that 8000 lines
[23:49] <xous> hrm
[23:49] <xous> what are you trying to copy
[23:49] <xous> if you know before hand just run script output.log
[23:49] <xous> then run whatever you want to copy to a file..
[23:52] <juanp_> ChanServ ScoutLink
[23:52] <Marlenee> i use before this tool "script" and it mess with my output result
[23:54] <spongebob58> can someone help me with mounting a smb share in my ubuntu? i just cant seem to get it to work.
[23:55] <guest__> The weirdest thing just happened. I closed the lid of my laptop and when I opened it, it had a bunch of console jargon on a black screen and something about a null pointer not found, and the capslock switch turning on and off over and over until I forced the laptop to shutdown...
[23:56] <bekks> guest__: thats called a "kernel panic". Resolution: turn off your computer, wait 10s, turn it back on again.
[23:56] <bekks> guest__: BEFORE:
[23:56] <guest__> bekks: I turned it on and it has a little error in apprtcheckresume
[23:56] <bekks> Try to provide as much detailed information of what you can see, like taking a picture, etc.
[23:56] <guest__> I sent the error to canonical
[23:57] <bekks> guest__: thats good.
[23:57] <guest__> bekks: Problem type KernelOops.
[23:57] <guest__> I'm assuming it won't happen for a while?
[23:57] <odium> After a reboot, I lost my audio device.
[23:57] <guest__> And it isn't a permanent thing
[23:57] <odium> How should I troubleshoot?
[23:58] <chsados> anyone having issues with teamviewer install on 13.10?  I have tried the 32bit/multiarch version and am getting this error still http://pastebin.com/PWBsVqxh
[23:59] <OerHeks> odium,  this is a good start > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[23:59] <odium> much obliged OerHeks.