[22:05] <suudy> I'm working on porting plymouth to a customized ubuntu distro (based on 12.04).  I'm having trouble getting the Image.Text() to render while in the initramfs.  It works fine when plymouth is used after the switch to the rootfs.
[22:06] <suudy> Also, the '--debug --debug-file=<path to file>' doesn't seem to produce anything in the initramfs.
[22:06] <suudy> I asked on #ubuntu, but was directed here.
[22:21] <xnox> suudy: do you have needed fonts in the initramfs?
[22:21] <xnox> suudy: on ubuntu, ubuntu-logo theme does work from initramfs and can render Image.Text(), compare your initramfs with the one produced in stock ubuntu (when plymouth has been added into the initramfs) and check what's different / missing.
[22:21] <suudy> I have the same packages installed in both the initramfs and rootfs.  But I'll double check the fonts.
[22:21] <suudy> But I can't figure out why debug and debug-file aren't doing anything in the initramfs.
[23:00] <suudy> xnox: I figured it out.  I had to hack the source to get plymouth to log in the initramfs, but I narrowed it down to find out that libgobject wasn't found.


[07:04] <flexiondotorg> o/
[07:04] <flexiondotorg> Just wondering how the Xubuntu 16.04.1 image testing is going?
[07:05] <flocculant> not started yet
[07:05] <flocculant> well
[07:05] <flocculant> just started :p
[07:05] <flexiondotorg> :-)
[07:05] <flexiondotorg> Yep, I was up early to day to do the same :-)
[07:06] <flocculant> I'll get a couple done before work and see if anyone has responded to the mail thread
[07:07] <flocculant> resize left to check on 64 bit now
[07:08] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: tbh I don't expect to see any issues with the installer at this point, so mostly a smoke test issue
[07:08] <flexiondotorg> Yep. Community testing feedback is good.
[07:08] <flocculant> more interested in if the lts - lts upgrade explodes or not
[07:08] <flexiondotorg> I'm just making sure the OEM install works.
[07:09] <flexiondotorg> Fortunately, I don't have that test case ;-)
[07:09] <flexiondotorg> LTS to LTS.
[07:09] <flocculant> yup
[07:09] <flocculant> not this time at least :)
[09:25] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, Just to advise about i386 iso testing (can't log it at moment, as works internet provider, is having dns issues and cannot get back onto ubuntu or xubuntu sites)
[09:25] <akxwi-dave> Full dsk install worked fine, live session fine and post install fine
[09:27] <akxwi-dave> however boot session had a problem.. not option to choose "Try" i.e live or "install".. iso booted staright to live session.. so install was direct from live.
[10:57] <bluesabre> flocculant: known fix for the disappearing cursor? https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fproyectosbeta.net%2F2016%2F07%2Fcomo-hacer-que-no-desaparezca-mas-el-puntero-del-mouse-despues-de-suspender-ubuntu-16-04%2F&edit-text=&act=url
[11:32] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: thanks - I'll check - then try the ubuntu 32bit too
[11:33] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: can't confirm that issue here (not vbox) looks ok to me
[11:34] <flocculant> bluesabre: I have *seen* that - but I've not actually tried it - also while that maybe works - how would someone with intel xenial and that workround know when it wasn't needed (after sru)?
[11:35] <bluesabre> flocculant: dunno, just keeping our options open
[11:35] <bluesabre> :)
[11:35] <flocculant> :)
[11:36] <flocculant> not sure I'll have time to check it works or not today - but no mad rush imo - we can always add to the release note on x.org I guess
[11:36] <bluesabre> yeah
[11:37] <flocculant> just trying to get as much smoketesting of installs done before tomorrow
[11:37] <bluesabre> I should be able to pick up some tests this evening
[11:38] <flocculant> 64bit are all done - 32bit will be lacking I expect
[11:38] <flocculant> depends what I manage to fit in later
[11:39] <flocculant> but - any tests by someone other than QA are welcome for sure :p
[11:39] <bluesabre> certainly
[11:40] <flocculant> I've got 64 bit lts to lts done - passed ok - obviously a vanilla install
[11:42] <bluesabre> cool
[11:42] <bluesabre> I can try it on my home desktop
[11:42] <flocculant> bluesabre: if you got to the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1568604
[11:42] <bluesabre> It's gone through 12.04 to 14.04
[11:42] <flocculant> and search for uxa - that works - but with issues arising
[11:42] <bluesabre> I see
[11:43] <flocculant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1568604/comments/82
[11:43] <flocculant> for instance
[11:44] <flocculant> and comment 75 for an easier way to do that 20-intel
[11:45] <flocculant> bluesabre: so not sure about telling people to do that - I will leave the decision to the Tech Lead :p
[11:45] <flocculant> if he says ok then I'll say ok then ... :)
[11:48] <bluesabre> ok
[11:48] <bluesabre> wait
[11:48] <bluesabre> :P
[11:48] <bluesabre> I'll think about it and look at whats up
[11:48] <bluesabre> do we have draft release notes on x.org already?
[11:49] <flocculant> bluesabre: don't be silly billy :)
[11:49] <flocculant> not looked at any sort of note yet - far down the list it is
[11:50] <flocculant> I'll try and get that started before you're about again this evening
[11:50] <bluesabre> flocculant: cool, maybe knome, ochosi, Unit193, etc etc might help with that as well
[11:51] <flocculant> pretty much all we need is link to original release note - I'm pretty sure all bugs are still there - I will double check those
[11:52] <flocculant> certainly the 2 big bugs are still current e.g. intel and thunar
[11:52] <flocculant> 32 bit lts to lts on the go now
[11:52] <flocculant> couple of 32 bit .1 tests to deal with
[11:52] <flocculant> bluesabre: back to work for me - have a good day :)
[11:54] <bluesabre> same here, cya flocculant
[12:19] <akxwi-dave> flocculant, Yep, mine was under vbox, also got a graphics anomaly during boot up..will test on real hardware tonite
[14:05] <flocculant> knome pleia2 - something happening to x.org which would stop me being able to login and create new?
[14:05] <flocculant> all I seem to get is option to play with profile ...
[14:18] <flocculant> davmor2: do you know offhand if the lts to lts upgrade path is turned on yet?
[14:19] <flocculant> still having to force the upgrade here
[14:19] <davmor2> flocculant: no that will be 14.04.5 I think but infinity can comfirm
[14:19] <flocculant> oh
[14:20] <flocculant> so when 16.04.1 releases there'll still be no 14.04> 16.04 update?
[14:20] <flocculant> how odd
[14:21] <flocculant> that said now I think about it - I saw mention of sometime August ...
[14:23] <flocculant> davmor2: reading -release now :p
[14:24] <davmor2> it seemed sensible to ask the people that might know :)
[14:24] <flocculant> :)
[14:25] <flocculant> so we might actually manage to get our big SRU sorted prior to 14.04>16.04 which would be rather awesome :p
[14:25] <flocculant> not much fun having a bug with rather high heat ...
[14:25] <flocculant> till I bothered to turn of notifications from the bug
[14:27] <flocculant> or not
[14:47] <flocculant> bluesabre: so - lts upgrade should be turned on early next week apparently, just .1 release this week
[16:49] <pleia2> flocculant: no, when you logged in, were your team memberships checked in the ubuntu one screen?
[16:49] <pleia2> it's still working ok for me
[17:37] <flocculant> pleia2: yep - both
[17:38] <flocculant> unless I got wrong url ... https://xubuntu.org/wp-login
[17:38] <pleia2> no, that's right
[17:39] <flocculant> mmm
[17:39] <pleia2> probably have to ask IS, we have no admin power to see other users these days
[17:39] <flocculant> pleia2: working now - logged in with them unchecked, logged out, logged in with teams again
[17:40] <flocculant> must be the Mysterons playing games
[17:41] <pleia2> :)
[19:52] <flocculant> bluesabre: do we actually need to say much about the .1 release?
[19:53] <flocculant> there doesn't appear to be any of our stuff changed - will be general updates though
[22:24] <bluesabre> hey flocculant


[12:17] <godbyk> Hey, thorwil.  Do you think you'll stick to the same title page for the Maverick edition or design something new?
[12:21] <thorwil> godbyk: same design, unless i stumble over a magically hidden time slot and can then design something better :)
[12:23] <godbyk> thorwil: Duly noted. :)
[12:24] <godbyk> I'll change the title text on the one in the maverick repository and regenerate the PDFs then.  (Unless you'd prefer to do it yourself.)
[12:24] <thorwil> godbyk: i do that myself sometime later
[12:25] <godbyk> thorwil: Okay, cool. Thanks!
[12:25] <godbyk> (I only ask because I know that somebody will inevitably freak if they see a 10.04 title page on the maverick draft PDF.)
[12:26] <thorwil> godbyk: so the branch is ready, cleaned up and the templates are all there?
[12:26] <godbyk> thorwil: yeah, I wiped the maverick branch and created a brand new one.
[12:26] <godbyk> then I copied over the .tex files and svgs from the lucid-e2 branch.
[12:28] <nisshh> oh that reminds me...
[12:29] <nisshh> godbyk: we are going to need a title page for the dev manual soon
[12:29] <godbyk> nisshh: thorwil's your man! :-)
[12:29] <godbyk> (you can thank me later, thorwil!)
[12:29] <nisshh> hahaha
[12:29] <nisshh> thorwil: are you willing to create a title page for the dev manual?
[12:32] <thorwil> nisshh: rather not
[12:33] <nisshh> thorwil: <puppy eyes> please? </puppy eyes>
[12:34]  * godbyk suspects thorwil has suddenly become more of a cat person.
[12:34] <nisshh> hehe
[12:34] <thorwil> lol. i have always been more of a cat person :)
[12:35]  * nisshh hands thorwil a cat over irc
[12:35] <nisshh> how about now?
[12:35]  * thorwil sees the operation fail as the cat claws nisshh
[12:36] <nisshh> your so cruel thorwil :)
[12:36] <nisshh> thorwil: ok, so you wont do it?
[12:38] <thorwil> nisshh: do you see a way how the same icon approach could work?
[12:38] <nisshh> thorwil: your suggesting using the title page already created for the dev manual as well?
[12:39] <thorwil> nisshh: it's worth a thought. what's the title?
[12:40] <nisshh> thorwil: Ubuntu Developer Manual
[12:41] <nisshh> thorwil: the icons would look kind of out of place, i was planning on using some more appropriate ones
[12:41] <thorwil> nisshh: of course. that would be the idea
[12:41] <nisshh> yea
[12:41] <godbyk> there's a cricket in my room that won't SHUT UP!
[12:41] <nisshh> hehe
[12:42] <godbyk> finally.. he's quiet now.  wonder how long it'll last.
[12:43] <nisshh> godbyk: i know how you feel, my motherboard has a habit of making my computer case rattle REALLY LOUDLY
[12:43] <nisshh> all the time
[12:43] <nisshh> godbyk: i estimate about 40 seconds
[12:44] <godbyk> I think I've startled it into silence for a bit.
[12:44] <godbyk> Oh, great. Apparently, there's now a debate on the text justification issue.  thorwil, make it all go away!  :)
[12:45] <nisshh> godbyk: it probably saw you and thought "oh shit, he is looking at me weird"
[12:45] <godbyk> frak.. the cricket's chirping again.
[12:45] <godbyk> So the answer is: 3 minutes.
[12:46] <nisshh> lucky i didnt bet anything
[12:47] <godbyk> This may be a more irksome version of The Tell-Tale Heart.
[12:48] <nisshh> thorwil: sorry to bother you (again) but you didnt actually tell me if you were going to do it or not :)
[12:50] <thorwil> nisshh: my "rather not" still stands
[12:51] <nisshh> thorwil: ok, ill either find someone more willing, or ill try it myself, thanks anyway dude :)
[12:51] <thorwil> nisshh: in any case, you could go through the same thought process that got as the getting started title page. think of possible motives, be it a new set of icons, or something else
[12:52] <thorwil> nisshh: if you can present something i can build on, it will become much more likely taht i do the rest
[12:53] <nisshh> thorwil: good idea
[12:53] <nisshh> ok
[12:53]  * nisshh starts thinking
[12:54] <nisshh> thorwil: so if i get all the required stuff like title, other text, icons, etc you MIGHT be happy to just blend it together for me?
[12:54] <thorwil> yeah
[12:56] <nisshh> ok
[13:45] <godbyk> thorwil: I'll let them duke out the icons stuff. I'm headed to bed. :)
[13:46] <thorwil> godbyk: icons stuff?
[13:46] <godbyk> thorwil: in #ubuntu-meeting.
[13:47] <thorwil> godbyk: you want to leave such a productive discussion? ;)  have a nice dream
[13:50] <godbyk> thorwil: It's pretty hard to tear myself away. ;-)
[18:48] <flan> jenkins needs more being-around.
[18:48]  * flan needs to know what interfaces need to be implemented.
[19:38] <thorwil> godbyk: we had it easy with font selection: http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/type_is_in_the_details.php
[19:39] <jenkins> flan: have you contacted sampath ?
[19:39] <flan> I have.
[19:39] <flan> No response.
[19:41] <jenkins> k thanks we shall wait and see
[19:42] <flan> Can you remind me which ways a user will have to choose a project?
[19:42] <flan> There's loading a .qsproj file, entering a project URL directly...
[19:43] <flan> Was there anything else? Aside from accessing a recently opened project, which is just a special case of entering a URL directly./
[19:49] <jenkins> I have not done loading yet. I thought the main server was going to act as a list as well
[19:49] <flan> That's just a special case of qsproj, once we've got it working.
[19:49] <flan> I'm just wondering for my purposes, for the interface module I'll need to hand to you very soon.
[19:50] <flan> Basically, I'll just have you call "load_qsproj(path_to_file/url)" or "load_url(url)".
[19:51] <flan> And have it return a session object or raise an exception.
[19:51] <flan> Other arguments, like username and working language and stuff, will be needed, of course.
[19:53] <jenkins> sounds good to me :)
[19:54] <flan> Yay.
[19:54] <flan> I'm still on track to have that for you by sometime on your Saturday.
[19:54] <jenkins> wow thats great I will get learning
[19:54] <flan> With all server functionality on Sunday.
[19:54] <flan> So I can help you next week.
[19:55] <flan> I've got someone who can help tweak the UI, appearance-wise, while we make the internals function, if we need him.
[19:55] <jenkins> and I am off all next week so lots of time
[19:55] <jenkins> that also sounds good
[20:16] <jenkins> be back later
[21:48] <flan> It's safe to assume anyone authoring documentation in the F/OSS world has something than can handle CSV, right?
[21:48] <flan> (I have Quickshot generating a list of people who've uploaded screenshots as a CSV file)
[22:09] <flan> jenkins, CSV seems like it should be a universally viable format for transporting simple tabular report-data, right?
[22:10] <jenkins> yep makes sense to me just read wikipedia
[22:10] <flan> I'm lazy. tl;dr me.
[22:11] <flan> I implemented contributor reports using CSV and just wanted to make sure nobody'd object.
[22:11] <flan> But the channel is silent.
[22:11] <flan> Kinda strange, considering how near the writing freeze happens to be.
[22:12] <jenkins> yep it is strange but unfortunatly most of us have jobs :(]
[22:12] <flan> You people and your gainful employment.
[22:14] <jenkins> I am enjoying my job but it does make me tired. I will get use to it. When I get back to uni I will have some time
[22:14] <flan> Mine needs less-legacy.
[22:15] <flan> Why can't programmers program? D:
[22:17] <flan> Yay. Just two more variables to define and then stuff to compile-test and then I can convince myself that there's no way I could do anything productive in the remaining thirty minutes and write another QS client-interface component.


[00:05] <Seeker`> who is bobertdos?
[00:05] <LjL> someone who was concerned with the bot being borken, i spose
[00:06] <LjL> gwyo has joined this channel (n=lala@65-101-171-249.desm.qwest.net). <- this guy gives me a highlight, might be a false positive since i have a lot of highlights, but for the record
[00:07] <Seeker`> LjL: any idea which highlight it triggers?
[00:07] <LjL> Seeker`: no :)
[00:07] <Seeker`> :(
[00:08] <LjL> the highlight list should have a searchbox...
[00:09] <LjL> oh, it triggers desm.qwest.net
[00:09] <LjL> guess it's a false positive then
[00:10] <Seeker`> :)
[00:10] <stdin> the only thing I see from the tracker is someone from desm.qwest.net who used the exploit in #u
[00:11] <LjL> well maybe they did it in other channels too so i put them on highlight
[00:12]  * LjL seriously ponders clearing - gasp - the entire list
[00:12] <Pici> golly
[00:15] <LjL> but then i also always say i should get a decent bouncer, i've said that for the past year, and i'm still on muh
[05:41] <Myrtti> Good morning!
[06:38] <Myrtti> Shalala
[06:40] <Myrtti> Tis a bit nippy outside...
[10:25] <bazhang> @bansearch daft_punk
[10:26] <ikonia> bazhang: he's been walking the line for a few days
[10:26] <bazhang> @btlogin
[10:26] <ikonia> sorry you got lumbered with that
[10:26] <bazhang> ikonia, I saw from the bantracker he was kicked earlier
[10:26] <bazhang> sorry not to be around much lately
[10:27] <ikonia> he's making random comments like all theexports are in ##linux because ubuntu is easy (paraphrasing) getting annoying and it's miss-leading
[10:27] <bazhang> I saw that.
[10:30] <ikonia> bazhang: keep your eye on rohan too, I'm %99.9 certain he's teh user dmseg (the little painful troll) he's been in / out a few times as r2r and roha and is concerning me a bit
[10:30] <bazhang> ikonia, will do.
[10:47] <ikonia> is ubuntu QA a different auth system than launchpad ?
[10:48] <Myrtti> yes
[10:49] <ikonia> ughh another account needed
[10:49] <ikonia> not sure if I should raise a blueprint or a brainstorm
[11:27] <Myrtti> *flipflop
[11:28] <Myrtti> I feel like I need a whack on the head
[11:30] <jussi01> *thwack*
[11:30] <jussi01> Myrtti: there you are :D
[11:33] <Myrtti> thanks
[12:30] <Pici> Hrm.
[12:31] <Pici> ikonia: I think we need a factoid that explains the Ubuntu packaging/release philosophy.  With mention of !backports and !worksforme.
[12:31] <ikonia> yes, that sounds good
[12:31] <ikonia> I'm pondering wording
[12:32] <Pici> As am I.
[12:32] <jussi01> !release | Pici
[12:32] <Pici> jussi01: /me looks
[12:32] <ikonia> not quite fitting for the dicussion
[13:50] <Myrtti> MUST HAVE BRAINZZZZZ
[13:50] <Myrtti> BRAINZZZZ
[13:50] <Myrtti> OMNOMNOM
[13:50] <Pici> We're all out here.
[13:50] <Myrtti> I CAN HAZ COAFFEEEEZ?
[13:51] <Pici> How about Caffeinated Brains?
[13:51] <Myrtti> mmmmmmm
[13:52] <Myrtti> schnappi das kleine krokodiiiillll
[13:52] <Myrtti> *doing*
[14:08] <jrib> done
[14:08] <Myrtti> native English speakers around?
[14:08] <Myrtti> co-operation, co operation or cooperation?
[14:09] <jrib> last one
[14:09] <Myrtti> thx
[14:10] <Myrtti> if that word were Finnish, it would be the first
[14:11] <Pici> English often doesn't make any sense.
[14:12] <ikonia> co-operation#
[14:12] <ikonia> according to my english graduate desk buddy
[14:12] <Myrtti> lol
[14:12] <ikonia> (I had to check, even as an english speaker)
[14:13] <nalioth> ikonia: archaic usage, i imagine
[14:13]  * nalioth never got any red marks for spelling it "cooperation" in school
[14:13] <Myrtti> but it has a hyphen-ish ring to it
[14:13] <ikonia> it's a funny one
[14:13] <Myrtti> nalioth: where did you got to school again...?
[14:14] <nalioth> Myrtti: i suspect the British used a hyphen with it
[14:14] <Myrtti> I'll go with the hyphen then
[14:14] <Myrtti> if in doubt, use en_GB
[14:15] <nalioth> Myrtti: as i said 'used" (past tense)   http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Acooperation&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[14:15] <nalioth> i've not seen co-operation in years (and then only in ancient books)
[14:16] <nalioth> hmmm "alternative spelling of cooperation"  > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=define%3Aco-operation&btnG=Search
[14:16] <nalioth> Myrtti: i suspect cooperation is the accepted version
[14:29] <Myrtti> mmm
[14:29]  * Myrtti moar coffee
[15:43]  * Pici buys ikonia a new keyboard and/or fingers
[15:49] <ikonia> hmm ?
[16:10] <Seeker`> I suspect that cooperate and cooperation are valid, as the word is based on the latin word cooperari
[16:11] <ikonia> check out Seeker` mr brain box
[16:12] <Seeker`> ikonia: "askoxford.com" ftw
[17:30] <LjL> Pici: why, what time zone was i in? :P
[17:30] <LjL> also, it says "now with maps!", except that all i get is an annoying "the google maps api rejected your request" dialog...
[17:31] <Pici> LjL: I was playing around with the IRCTeam map, I wasn't sure it was working though, since I didnt see any of the 'thumbtacks' on the maps.
[17:31] <LjL> Pici: well, at least you can see the map
[17:32] <Pici> LjL: Yes! A blank map of the world. How exciting.
[17:33] <LjL> argggh
[18:07] <stdin> someone's having fun in -bots
[19:19] <jdong> I think I need to clean up some of my street^H^H^H^H^H alt nicks...
[19:25]  * PriceChild wonders whether this is the end of j-dizzle
[19:26] <jdong> nah that's staying
[19:26] <jdong> some of the other ones are pretty absurd :D
[19:26] <Tm_T> hi kids
[20:12] <LjL> jdong: well, why do you want to get rid of nicknames that suit you so well then?
[20:55] <stdin> wasn't mibbit (or all web gateways) banned in -ot sometime before?
[20:55] <LjL> no
[20:56] <LjL> i'm pretty sure, because -proxy-users always said in the topic that people could join it
[20:56] <stdin> I just had a vague memory of some mibbit user in here asking about -ot some time
[22:03] <Pici> It was banned at some point, because I remember unbanning it.
[22:11] <LjL> oh wait
[22:11] <LjL> perhaps i remember too, i have some vague memories of screaming about it
[22:18] <Myrtti> Hello kids
[22:26] <ompaul> Pici, ?
[22:26] <ompaul> Myrtti, you lie
[22:26] <Myrtti> Oh?
[22:26] <ompaul> Myrtti, have a hot cup of tea
[22:26] <ompaul> I can has older age than kidz
[22:27] <Myrtti> Sure, when I get home
[22:27] <Myrtti> ompaul dear, I love you
[22:27] <ompaul> Myrtti, thanks :)
[22:29]  * Myrtti huggles jussi01
[22:29] <jussi01> :)
[22:29] <jussi01> Im off to bed. got to drive to helsinki tomorrow. nini all
[22:29] <Myrtti> Life, my friends, is magnificent
[22:30] <Myrtti> Nini j
[22:33] <Myrtti> When do birds suddenly appear every time you are near...
[22:33] <Myrtti> Oh.
[22:33] <Myrtti> Damn.
[22:34] <Myrtti> Nevermind
[22:34]  * Myrtti continues only with humming
[23:58] <LjL> messed up Gutsy, wrong version of libc6 (don't know where from, current sources.list is fine), it's a server that cannot be rescue booted, suggestions?


[06:50] <fabrice_sp> bdrung, sbuild (and in amd64 for ari-tczew)
[06:53]  * fabrice_sp now reads backlog
[09:27] <Sarmad> Question: I used to request free CDs and distribute them mostly to computer professional who haven't tried Ubuntu before. Now I can see "becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby becoming eligible for more CDs". Kindly tell me how I can contribute and how eligibility process works?
[09:47] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: thanks for sponsoring
[09:57] <ari-tczew> how can I hide my IP address on IRC?
[09:58] <geser> ari-tczew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Cloaks
[09:59] <ari-tczew> thanks geser
[10:09] <ari-tczew> geser: I'm not an Ubuntu Member directly. is it a problem?
[10:09] <geser> shouldn't be
[10:12] <fabrice_sp> ari-tczew, yw. Did you saw my post on bug 598684 ?
[10:12] <fabrice_sp> you can upload the Debian package to your ppa, and see what happends
[10:12] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: just saw it. please don't think that I'm not test build, because I have i386 architecture.
[10:13] <ari-tczew> s/not/did not
[10:13] <fabrice_sp> no: that's why when I find a FTBFS, I always ask the bug reporter to check
[10:13] <fabrice_sp> this difference between adm64 and i386 is what made me insall the amd64 variant
[10:14] <fabrice_sp> with adm64, you can build 32/64 bits
[10:14] <fabrice_sp> and also sbuild, as pbuilder sometimes builds fine but sbuild fails
[10:15] <fabrice_sp> and sbuild is nearer from buildds than pbuilder
[10:15] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: did you tried sbuild for this one?
[10:16] <fabrice_sp> I always uses sbuild
[10:17]  * fabrice_sp switeched to lvm partitions to be able to use sbuild some time ago
[10:17] <fabrice_sp> s/switeched/switched
[10:18] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: hmm, what do you think, B-D on libavformat-dev will fix the issue?
[10:19] <fabrice_sp> ari-tczew, I don't think so: it seems to be only a missing function, and not a missing build-dep
[10:19] <fabrice_sp> so perhaps the function is not experted anymore in libavformat
[10:19] <fabrice_sp> s/experted/exported/
[10:20] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: then we can't sync this one. closing bug?
[10:20] <fabrice_sp> we have to wait until this issue is fixed
[10:20] <fabrice_sp> I'm seing that during latest build test, player also FTBFS with the same error
[10:21] <fabrice_sp> on amd64, also
[10:21] <BlackZ> please, someone could ACK bug #598874 ?
[10:21] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: hehe I'm watching on it also right now
[10:22] <fabrice_sp> BlackZ, this was the next sync request I was going to check
[10:22] <fabrice_sp> but I have some stuff to do before, wo probably will check it this afternoon
[10:22] <fabrice_sp> 11h30 AM here
[10:22] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: look @ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=584232
[10:23] <ari-tczew> guy have attached a patch
[10:24] <fabrice_sp> ari-tczew, donsn't seem to be the same
[10:24] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: here 11:24 AM :p
[10:24] <ari-tczew> BlackZ: propably fabrice_sp lives in other place like you (timezones)
[10:24] <fabrice_sp> hey: we are in the same timezone :-)
[10:24] <BlackZ> ari-tczew: indeed
[10:24] <fabrice_sp> Italy and Spain aren't very far ;-)
[10:26] <fabrice_sp> ari-tczew, it seems to be more a problem in opencv package. Will check later on.
[10:26] <fabrice_sp> Have to go now. CU
[10:26] <BlackZ> bye fabrice_sp
[10:27] <ari-tczew> ok thanks fabrice_sp
[10:27] <ari-tczew> see you
[10:27]  * ari-tczew is going to learn about IRC clocking
[13:31] <sniderDK> hello all, a fellow php-gtk developer and I wish to maintain a php-gtk package (with its extras) is the best way to get them into the universe to start a PPA and get back in touch when thats been going for awhile?
[13:33] <tsimpson> the best way is to use revu
[13:33] <tsimpson> !revu
[13:34] <sniderDK> thank you very much, thats perfect
[13:39] <Laney> sniderDK: I see that there is a Debian request for packaging, you should probably look to maintaining it there
[13:39] <Laney> see http://wiki.debian.org/PHP#ForpackagersofPHPapplications.2BAC8-modules.2BAC8-libraries
[15:44] <nigelb> soren: can you moderate my mail to #ubuntu-motu? (accidentally sent from @gmail instead of @ubuntu)
[15:58] <ScottK> nigelb: It's generally easier to just cancel the post and send it again.
[15:59] <geser> is the ubuntu-motu ML moderated at all?
[15:59] <nigelb> ScottK: contemplating that
[15:59] <ScottK> geser: You have to be subscribed to post.
[16:00] <geser> ah
[16:01] <nigelb> geser: forgot to change the "from"
[16:03] <geser> nigelb: moderated
[16:04] <nigelb> geser: thank you :)
[16:41] <geser> DktrKranz: did you see the u-d-t branch from Andrew with the manpages update?
[16:42] <DktrKranz> geser: only now.....
[17:12] <shadeslayer> question for MOTU's , why cant we upload a new version mentioned in bug 565206
[17:13] <shadeslayer> we have a debdiff and all for the package
[17:16] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: comment 3 answers that quite well. It'd be easier to wait for debian to upload, then sync
[17:17] <JontheEchidna> though it hasn't been sponsored in debian for a few months now...
[17:17] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i saw the comment,but still,the package has been on mentors.debian since a month and no one has looked in it
[17:17]  * shadeslayer pokes around on oftc
[17:17] <JontheEchidna> 6 MB debdiffs are unweildy, blegh
[17:18] <Laney> debdiffs arent suitable for new upstream releases
[17:23] <shadeslayer> Laney: true
[17:23] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: i gave Riddell a 5MB diff recently :P
[17:23] <shadeslayer> i think it was for kptc... not sure :D
[18:16] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It's not true no one looked at it on mentors.  I did and mailed the maintainer some comments, but I don't see it got updated.
[18:16] <shadeslayer> ScottK: oh.. i thought mentors had a comment section like debian?
[18:17] <shadeslayer> s/debian/revu
[18:17] <ScottK> Nope.
[18:17] <shadeslayer> ah.. i didnt realize that..
[18:19] <shadeslayer> anyone here watch 24 btw?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> whoops.. wrong channel
[18:56] <fabrice_sp> dupondje, ping
[18:56] <fabrice_sp> about bug #593100
[19:02] <fabrice_sp> BlackZ, libmpcdec seems to have been deprecated in favor of libmpc
[19:03] <fabrice_sp> (libmpc is not in squeeze anymore)
[19:03] <fabrice_sp> s/libmpc/libmpcdec/
[19:03] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: did you see my sync request?
[19:03] <fabrice_sp> BlackZ, yes. that's why I checked the 2 packages
[19:04] <fabrice_sp> as libmpcdec is in main, it's not so easy
[19:04] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: so what should we do?
[19:04] <fabrice_sp> check rdepends on libmpcdec3
[19:04] <fabrice_sp> and try to build them with libmpc packages
[19:04] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: I checked that with quadrispro
[19:05] <BlackZ> (yeah, there are a lot of packages)
[19:07] <fabrice_sp> 15 packages
[19:13] <fabrice_sp> BlackZ, I've just commented on the bug, and updated the bug report so that it affect also libmpcdec
[19:14] <fabrice_sp> let see what happens
[19:14] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: however that situation should be really solved soon
[19:14] <fabrice_sp> as it involve a main package, it will take a bit more time
[19:15] <fabrice_sp> do you have a list of packages that FTBFS because of that?
[19:15] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: currently no
[19:16] <BlackZ> but I indicated a bug on the sync request
[19:16] <BlackZ> s/on/in
[19:20] <fabrice_sp> lastest rebuild shows only mpc123
[19:32] <dupondje> yea fabrice_sp  ?
[19:41] <fabrice_sp> dupondje, did you see that bhavani posted an updated  debdiff
[19:42] <dupondje> yea I saw :) got an email :p
[19:42] <fabrice_sp> shall I upload it?
[19:42] <dupondje> didn't check it yet, but if its good ...
[19:43] <fabrice_sp> it's just that you did a first work, and it's a pitty not to follow up
[19:43] <fabrice_sp> however, this is the second time that Bhavani jump on an exisitng bug to post an upstated debdiff ,without letting the original reporter to post a new ine
[19:44] <fabrice_sp> so I was going to ask him to speak with the original reporter, before posting
[19:44] <dupondje> will check his patch in some minutes
[19:44] <dupondje> got to do something else first :)
[19:44] <fabrice_sp> np: I have to lunch :-) bbl
[20:04] <dupondje> fabrice_sp: patch seems fine
[20:46] <fabrice_sp> dupondje, even if the patch seems fine, would you like to attach your own debdiff, or shall I upload the one from Bhavani?
[20:47] <dupondje> feel free to upload his
[20:47] <dupondje> its quite useless to create the same one again imo :)
[20:54] <fabrice_sp> I know :-/
[20:54] <fabrice_sp> but I feel bad, as you began to work on it
[20:58] <dupondje> hehe no problem
[20:58] <dupondje> got to reboot
[20:58] <dupondje> brb
[21:07] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: ptlib is uploaded now, the other dependence to merge is opal, coolbhavi said he's on it
[21:08] <fabrice_sp> BlackZ, did you checked that there is no more dependencies required
[21:08] <ScottK> geser: python-defaults (and python3-defaults) are merged now so the stack of packages that were depwait on those should start to clear.
[21:08] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: seems not
[21:08] <geser> ScottK: thanks
[21:09] <BlackZ> fabrice_sp: no worries about that, I'll try a build of it once opal is uploaded
[21:09] <fabrice_sp> BlackZ, ok
[21:17] <ScottK> lucas: I am noticing there are more than a couple packages that FTBFS due to docbook dtd changes in KDE.  The build logs all have "make[3]: *** [doc/en/index.cache.bz2] Error 1" in them.  I was wondering if you could teach the rebuild system about that so it doesn't just yield [UNKNOWN] XXX for the error.  kcheckgmail in the latest rebuild is an example.
[21:47] <ripps> hmm... why isn't my hardy/jaunty packages with backported debhelper and quilt not running dh_quilt_patch and dh_quilt_unpatch?
[21:48] <ripps> debhelper=7.4.3 quilt=0.48
[22:03] <ripps> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50996739/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.gmpc_0.20.0%2Bgit20100627.7f762dd-0ubuntu1~ripps3~hardy_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:07] <ripps> Does dh --with-quilt $@, not work with launchpad buildd for some reason?
[22:11] <lifeless> ripps: it should if you have the build deps right
[23:44] <dupondje> E: Release signed by unknown key (key id 9AA38DCD55BE302B) => when trying to create sid pbuilder env. Any idea how I can fix that ? :)
[23:47] <RAOF> Install the debian keyring, I believe
[23:48] <dupondje> didn't solve it :(
[23:48] <Laney> I believe they recently did something with the archive keys
[23:48] <Laney> maybe it takes some time for uploads to happen or whatever
[23:49] <Laney> (...#debian-devel/-ftp might know more)
[23:55] <dupondje> debian-archive-keyring
[23:55] <dupondje> :D
[23:55] <dupondje> fixed it


[15:44] <Rocket2DMn> hey mdke , are we planning on doing another release of the docs before Final Freeze?


[15:30] <Guest19> Hi, I don't know if anyone can help me with a netplan configuration.
[15:30] <Guest19> The computer has two network interfaces (eno1, eno2) connected to the same network. What I want to do is that if the connection comes from eno1, it goes out on eno1, if it comes from eno2, it goes out on eno2.
[15:30] <Guest19> I try this config:
[15:30] <Guest19> #cat /etc/netplan/00-installer-config.yaml
[15:30] <Guest19> network:
[15:30] <Guest19>   ethernets:
[15:30] <Guest19>     eno1:
[15:30] <Guest19>       dhcp4: no
[15:30] <Guest19>       addresses:
[15:30] <Guest19>       - <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[15:30] <Guest19>       gateway4: <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:30] <Guest19>       nameservers:
[15:30] <Guest19>         addresses:
[15:30] <Guest19>         - <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:31] <Guest19>         search:
[15:31] <Guest19>         - domain.com
[15:31] <Guest19>     eno2:
[15:31] <Guest19>       dhcp4: no
[15:31] <Guest19>       addresses:
[15:31] <Guest19>       - <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[15:31] <Guest19> but netplan generate show me this
[15:31] <Guest19> ** (generate:26443): WARNING **: 15:15:42.939: Problem encountered while validating default route consistency.Please set up multiple routing tables and use `routing-policy` instead.
[15:31] <Guest19> Error: Conflicting default route declarations for IPv4 (table: main, metric: default), first declared in eno1 but also in eno2
[15:31] <Guest19> any idea?
[16:10] <slyon> Guest19: sorry I'm afk right now. But as the error message suggests, you need to make use of policy routing, e.g. using a "from:" rule, to route a package depending on its source address
[16:23] <Guest19> I set that in the configuration and it still shows the error


[02:27] <bluesabre> Unit193: any idea what's wrong with my watch file? https://github.com/Xubuntu/sgt-launcher/blob/master/debian/watch
[02:27] <bluesabre> > gbp:error: Uscan failed: In debian/watch no matching files for watch line
[02:28] <bluesabre> > https://github.com/bluesabre/sgt-launcher/releases (?:.*/|)sgt-launcher(?:-|_|_v|\.|V|)(\d\S*)\.(?:tar\.(?:gz|bz2|xz)|tgz|tbz2|txz|zip)
[02:30] <arraybolt3[m]> bluesabre: You already tried uscan -vv --download-current-version?
[02:31]  * arraybolt3[m] clones to see if I can help debug it
[02:34] <bluesabre> I notice that the list of assets seems to load in ajax-y now, I wonder if GitHub broke releases with uscan
[02:36] <arraybolt3[m]> It doesn't look like it's even finding the right links to scan.
[02:36] <arraybolt3[m]> I don't see https://github.com/bluesabre/sgt-launcher/releases/download/sgt-launcher-0.2.8/sgt-launcher-0.2.8.tar.gz anywhere in the list of scanned URLs.
[02:38] <arraybolt3[m]> Doing a View Source on the Releases page and then searching for tar.gz reveals no results.
[02:38] <bluesabre> Looks like recent breakage: https://groups.google.com/g/linux.debian.devel/c/StmWbDMsvlo?pli=1
[02:38] <bluesabre> Thankfully, there's workarounds!
[02:39] <arraybolt3[m]> Yeah, but wow. This is going to break a lot of packaging in Lubuntu too.
[02:44] <arraybolt3[m]> bluesabre: I think this is your ticket to fixing it: https://api.github.com/repos/bluesabre/sgt-launcher/releases
[02:47] <arraybolt3[m]> Just dropping that in didn't work yet though and I don't know why.
[02:47] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh, because it likes HTML code and this is not HTML. Hmm...
[02:50] <Unit193> bluesabre: GitHub is currently broken in d/watch, basically.  I have a hack that works though. :P
[02:51] <bluesabre> :)
[02:51] <arraybolt3[m]> I'm just on the verge of getting it to work, but if you have it working, do share, since much (or maybe even all) of Lubuntu's packaging is probably going to need some major overhauls now, too.
[02:51] <Unit193> Debian #1019696
[02:52] <Unit193> tl;dr: use /tags if you can, otherwise use a hack. :D
[02:53] <Unit193> My hack is in uscan, so you shouldn't need to modify d/watch.  I'm waiting to see what the common fix is.
[02:54] <arraybolt3[m]> ROFL "GitHub re-write rule.  Abandon all hope ye who enter here."
[02:55] <arraybolt3[m]> Well, here's hoping your fix gets officially accepted. Otherwise we are all going to have a lot of "fun" working with this curveball.
[02:55] <bluesabre> Nice :D
[02:56] <Unit193> Erm, no that won't ever be officially accepted as-is.
[02:57] <arraybolt3[m]> Well OK but it's good progress. At least someone has it working.
[03:00] <Unit193> Doesn't work for this one.
[03:01] <bluesabre> https://github.com/Xubuntu/sgt-launcher/commit/0e3aaea50b4af572a19773144f9a8d0b1eaffc01 seems to work
[03:04] <arraybolt3[m]> Horrible and nicely done.
[03:04] <arraybolt3[m]> It works for me over here too.
[03:09] <bluesabre> Thanks you guys for the help!


[02:23] <rokclimb15> Greetings bug team, I'm requesting SRU nomination for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/proftpd-dfsg/+bug/1246245
[02:23] <rokclimb15> Please let me know if you have any questions, thanks


[01:40] <arraybolt3> hmm... houston, we have a problem: https://i.imgur.com/CyVUj1s.png
[01:41] <arraybolt3> Why. On earth. Is Calamares popping up LXQt sudo?
[01:41] <arraybolt3> Also Oxygen icons seem to have entered the chat
[01:42] <arraybolt3> (note Back, Next, and Cancel buttons in Calamares itself)
[01:44] <arraybolt3> The LXQt sudo thing seems to have been transient? I rebooted my ISO in QEMU and now it's not happening, so Idk what it was doing.
[01:45] <arraybolt3> oh, I see how LXQt sudo started being used.
[01:45] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: Any particular reason you (I assume you did it) changed the installer to be launched with lxqt-sudo rather than just plain-ol sudo? It broke theming and is making a strange window pop up.
[01:48] <arraybolt3> guiverc: I think I found a hint about the issues you noticed with being detected as being in New York.
[01:49] <arraybolt3> 20:48:15 [2]: void Config::completeGeoIP()
[01:49] <arraybolt3>      WARNING: GeoIP returned invalid result.
[01:49] <arraybolt3> So something's making Cala think it's getting invalid data. Either a Cala bug or a problem with Canonical's GeoIP service I guess.
[01:52] <guiverc> thanks arraybolt3, I suspect temporary internet issues thus we can ignore (I've noted 50x issues on a few ubuntu sites recently for whatever reason(s))
[01:56] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: The theming looks *better*, you'll have to show me a specific example of where it's *broken*... :P
[01:57] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: As for this popup, yeah let's patch lxqt-sudo to not prompt at all on the live session... we could move that to like a pkexec -E though.
[01:57] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: I mean the colored icons don't fit with any other app in Lubuntu that I know of. :P
[01:57] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: I mean, if Xubuntu is going to be using this, I don't see why not.
[01:57] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Well, we should make it fit with those icons, instead of just using the default Qt ones. :P
[01:57] <arraybolt3> pkexec -E is a thing?
[01:57]  * tsimonq2 *thinks*, yeah
[01:57] <arraybolt3> I didn't think pkexec had that feature
[01:57] <tsimonq2> Or at least sudo -E
[01:57] <tsimonq2> One of em does :P
[01:58] <arraybolt3> yeah, it's sudo
[01:58] <arraybolt3> `man pkexec` `/-E` "Pattern not found"
[01:58] <tsimonq2> Literally, lxqt-sudo just calls one of those on the backend and wraps it in a GUI.
[01:58] <tsimonq2> So maybe we *should* move it back, but ensure the theming is set right.
[01:58] <arraybolt3> sudo -E seems to give me consistent theming.
[01:59] <arraybolt3> lxqt-sudo -e is doing *something* (no clue what) that causes the wrong icon set to be used, which looks out-of-place.
[01:59] <arraybolt3> s/-e/-E/
[01:59] <arraybolt3> (capitalization matters :P)
[01:59] <tsimonq2> sudo -E uses *our* icons, not the default Qt icons?
[01:59] <arraybolt3> Correct.
[01:59] <arraybolt3> pkexec is the one that uses the default Qt theming which is all broken.
[01:59] <arraybolt3> (well, not broken, just... different)
[01:59] <arraybolt3> sudo -E does the theming right
[02:00] <arraybolt3> and lxqt-sudo -E does something between the two for <unknown reasons>
[02:00] <tsimonq2> Can I see a picture, pretty please? :)
[02:00] <arraybolt3> Posted it up above.
[02:00] <arraybolt3> 19:40 <arraybolt3> hmm... houston, we have a problem: https://i.imgur.com/CyVUj1s.png
[02:00] <tsimonq2> No, of the *right* theming.
[02:00] <tsimonq2> With sudo -E.
[02:00] <arraybolt3> ah, right. https://i.imgur.com/EKKvzUj.png
[02:00] <tsimonq2> WOAH, I like that MUCH better.
[02:00] <tsimonq2> JFDI :)
[02:01] <arraybolt3> kk, will change it.
[02:01] <tsimonq2> Thanks.
[02:01] <tsimonq2> Also, side note, the installer prompt uses a different invocation of Calamares.
[02:01] <tsimonq2> Might want to either create a helper Bash script that both point to, or just update it to use the same command.
[02:01] <arraybolt3> re different invocation of Calamares:. Nice. Ugh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c32oIb0ESZs
[02:02] <tsimonq2> hah :D
[02:09] <arraybolt3> Whoa, Calamares provides LVM management buttons?
[02:10] <arraybolt3> Don't remember seeing those before, either I just went right past them or they're new
[02:17] <arraybolt3> Must be preliminary support, as it's glitchy :P
[02:18] <arraybolt3> All partitions on the disk disappear the moment you try to make a new volume group.
[02:18] <arraybolt3> That... should probably be fixed.
[03:20] <tsimonq2> Good catch!
[05:34] <tsimonq2> Whew, finally landed that code today for $dayjob, diffstat says +/- something like 350/200 :P
[05:34]  * tsimonq2 EOD o/
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/2045410 cc mkukri guiverc arraybolt3
[18:01] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2045410 in calamares (Ubuntu) "calamares install (grub-install?) issue - jammy" [Undecided, New]
 mkurki: You're very popular here this week, thanks again for idling here :)
 Look at @Roberalz go :D this is amazing! https://github.com/lubuntu-team/lubuntu-update-notifier/pull/7
[18:06] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Pull 7 in lubuntu-team/lubuntu-update-notifier "Update es.po" [Open]
 @kc2bez All I'm doing to merge this is cloning the Gitea repository, adding the GitHub remote and fetching it, merging the changes into my local branch, then push right to origin which automatically claps back to GitHub
 Feel free to give it a try, otherwise I'll JFDI later/tomorrow and write instructions :)
 Good to know, thanks for the information. Not sure I will get to it before you but I will try to keep an eye on it better than I have in the past.
 Either way, thanks for the +1 on the review! Translations don't *need* it, but I always love a good +2 before merging :) so keep that up if you can!
 Sure thing.
[18:14] <arraybolt3> Not quite "clocking in", but this is more-or-less my plan for today:
[18:14] <arraybolt3> * Finish the blog post draft I started yesterday about Cala vs. Flutter Installer
[18:15] <arraybolt3> * Finish an upstream Calamares pull request I accidentally left undone, redoing the Cala patch for encrypted installations accordingly
[18:16] <arraybolt3> * Universe maintenance / MOTU changing
[18:16] <arraybolt3> er, training, not changing
[18:16] <arraybolt3> * Maybe cram in some lubuntu-connection-editor coding (though sadly I don't expect this to be production-ready until 24.10)
 Sounds like a great plan! I have to knock out 8 hours of $dayjob sometime today, otherwise I want to get to some of those rejected source NEW packages, maybe do a little piloting, and follow up a bit on the installer prompt since I think that's one of our next bears to really tackle.
 If you need help just let me know - otherwise I'll be floating around as usual.
[18:23] <arraybolt3> I just realized it's Friday, I probably will only be able to tackle two of the items on my list.
[18:23] <arraybolt3> hmm, which two...
[18:23] <arraybolt3> I'll start with the Cala PR since it's the most important IMO.
[19:31] <arraybolt3> Testing new patch.
[19:33] <arraybolt3> hrm, patch fail.
[19:35] <arraybolt3> gah, missing parentheses
[19:42] <arraybolt3> and now I'm trying to read from a string. Great.
[20:10] <mkukri> tsimonq2, no worries, off for the weekend tho, so might be worth subscribing me to the LP bug otherwise the possibility of it being forgotten is quite high
[20:16] <arraybolt3> alright, hopefully last patch iteration :P
[20:16] <arraybolt3> nope
[20:17] <arraybolt3> lol, I *may* want to be using print() instead of write().
[20:17] <arraybolt3> since I made the entire /etc/default/grub file one massive comment XD
 @Roberalz Hey! Feel free to provide further translations updates in other PRs. Otherwise, we can get you access on git.lubuntu.me to push those directly. :)
 @Roberalz We can make exceptions as necessary, but in general I think our target date for getting things fully translated is April 18th, so if you or anyone else see something missing, please say something: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-release-schedule/35649
 The Lubuntu Manual is exempt from the Documentation String Freeze, by the way. I mean, in general @lynorian should work towards getting the vast majority of the changes done for the next release by that time, but it's in no way a "hard deadline," since it's not actually a package we ship by default.
[20:27] <tsimonq2> mkukri: Ack, will do.
[20:29] <tsimonq2> Anyway, one other thing before I forget. The Lubuntu Manual icon uses help-browser, and it actually calls Firefox directly. Looking for suggestions on a new icon, and for what the replacement command would be to just call the default browser.
[21:08] <tsimonq2> Fixed.
[21:09] <tsimonq2> I think you all will be very happy with it. :)
[21:22] <tsimonq2> https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1730698463669583989
[21:22] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: Sounds like you're hard at work :)
[21:22] <tsimonq2> >:D
[21:22] <arraybolt3> (I'm learning that I don't know Python :P)
[21:22] <arraybolt3> Oh NICE I love that icon!
 CC @lynorian ^^^^^ :)
[21:27] <arraybolt3> you should have seen some of the mistakes I've made trying to rewrite a Python function in Calamares - first I forgot a parenthesis, then I tried to read lines from a filename rather than a file, then I was looping through the file in question one character at a time rather than one line at a time, and I may have even been doing writes in such a
[21:27] <arraybolt3> way that they didn't have newlines in between them.
[21:28] <arraybolt3> So... yeah, took me a while to get things just right, but I think I probably have it right now.
[21:30] <tsimonq2> Yesterday I was going between Ruby on Rails and JavaScript. I did that a few times (started including parentheses in Rails functions, no parentheses in JavaScript functions, etc. :P)
[21:30] <tsimonq2> It comes over time. You can only kick yourself so much before you learn ;P
[21:30] <tsimonq2> Also: https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1730700704040304797
 Yes that icon looks really good
[21:31] <tsimonq2> I'm glad :D
[21:32] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: lol at switching between language issues :P
[21:33] <arraybolt3> for me I didn't forget which language I was using or get features confused, I just typoed all over myself and threw a smattering of logic errors in to the mix for me to solve XD
[21:35] <arraybolt3> gah, and now I forgot the newlines! AGAIN!
[21:36] <arraybolt3> oh my gosh because I accidentally reverted earlier changes
[21:36] <arraybolt3> 🤦
 https://github.com/Roberalz/lubuntu-update-notifier/commit/7e35fac160b1facf224d2b557f04063e0cf1bea5
[21:38] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit 7e35fac in Roberalz/lubuntu-update-notifier "Merge pull request #1 from Roberalz/Roberalz-patch-3"
 Do you have an account on git.lubuntu.me? (re @Roberalz: https://github.com/Roberalz/lubuntu-update-notifier/commit/7e35fac160b1facf224d2b557f04063e0cf1bea5)
 Ah yes you do
 Yes
 @Roberalz You now have push access here: https://git.lubuntu.me/Lubuntu/lubuntu-update-notifier

 Feel free to push translation updates directly to ubuntu/devel (which in this case is ubuntu/noble). For any other changes please use a merge proposal.
[21:41] <arraybolt3> WOOHOO the install is working! Finally!
 Ok, perfect, thankssss
[21:41] <arraybolt3> Only took me like six or seven tries.
 It's Best Practice to create a new branch for each changeset, and merge (with fast forward) onto ubuntu/devel. You don't have to push your new branch to your fork, you can push it to the main repo, just remember to delete it when you're done.
 If you have any questions, or need help with your Git-fu, please do let us know @Roberalz - thanks in advance for patience in yourself ;)
 GitHub works, but it's automatically overwritten with what's in git.lubuntu.me on push
 If you need access to any other repos for translations, let us know. :)
[21:43] <arraybolt3> Alright, final test since I stumbled everywhere, then submitting to upstream.
[21:43] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Hah nice :D
 Ahhh ok, perfect (re @tsimonq2: GitHub works, but it's automatically overwritten with what's in git.lubuntu.me on push)
[21:47] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Speaking of old branches needing cleanup ;P https://git.lubuntu.me/Lubuntu/lubuntu-update-notifier/src/branch/arraybolt3/upgrade_repair
[21:47] <arraybolt3> nice :P
[21:47] <tsimonq2> @Roberalz: If you do plan on creating separate branches, I'd suggest the scheme Roberalz/my-branchname-here
[22:02] <arraybolt3> Alright, the patch works.
[22:20] <tsimonq2> \o/
 https://git.lubuntu.me/Lubuntu/lubuntu-update-notifier/commit/18afebb4df593c1b5d3e682d6250ebc48db6e262 (re @tsimonq2: GitHub works, but it's automatically overwritten with what's in git.lubuntu.me on push)
[22:21] -ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit 18afebb in Lubuntu/lubuntu-update-notifier "Galician translate."
 Galician translate
 Perfect!!!!!!!! Feel free to add another bullet point under your name in debian/changelog :)
 Ok
 Thank you so much!! :)
 I'm really excited to see some momentum here :D
 Done (re @tsimonq2: Perfect!!!!!!!! Feel free to add another bullet point under your name in debian/changelog :))
 The extra newline is not needed, feel free to append to your commit/force push or create a followup one :) otherwise I can fix it!
 Ok, thanks for the info
 Thank you for giving me permission to upload more translations
 No, thank *you* for your help! :)
 https://github.com/lubuntu-team/calamares-settings-ubuntu/tree/ubuntu/noble may also need it - if you find yourself wanting commit access to that one too, just let me know :)


[06:00] <Kilos> oo yay
[06:01] <Kilos> morning africa
[06:01] <Kilos> :-)
[06:31] <Kilos> elacheche  morning, do you have any contact with neo?