[00:14] <dx9s> I am sure this is the wrong channel but figured this is the channel where developers that build LiveCD images might be.. I'm working on my own LiveCD and got everything working find except on little detail... casper during boot into the squashfs makes an icon on desktop and updates the icon under system for the install to HD... I just want the icon in System -> Administration -> Install (RELEASE)
[00:16] <broder_> dx9s: go look at the scripts in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom
[00:16] <dx9s> can't seem to find any docs on WHERE that is (Python scripts assuming) and I think it's apart of the ubiquity-casper package that does the actual branding of the icon to the live desktop
[00:16] <broder_> one of them is probably responsible
[00:16] <broder> though i don't know for sure
[00:16] <dx9s> is that in the initrd ?
[00:17] <broder> it's copied there from the real filesystem
[00:17] <dx9s> I'll poke around.. thanks
[00:19] <dx9s> broder, possibly 47une_ubiquity I am thinking
[00:21] <dx9s> broder, or 10adduser
[00:23] <broder> dx9s: i haven't looked at those scripts in a long time, so i can't really provide much more guidance at the moment
[00:23] <dx9s> you've pointed me in the correct direction .. that much is appreciated!
[00:29] <SpamapS> jcastro: ping re: summit
[00:29] <SpamapS> jcastro: 1) https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-mysql  <-- that *must* be on Monday
[00:29] <jcastro> SpamapS: yessir
[00:29] <SpamapS> jcastro: 2) edge?! really? ;)
[00:30] <SpamapS> jcastro: does summit take into account when essential people are only registered to be there on a certain day? It looks like summit doesn't list ccharles yet, but he's essential in lp
[00:32] <jcastro> SpamapS: fixed.
[00:32] <jcastro> and yes it does
[00:32] <SpamapS> jcastro: woot! :) ty
[00:32] <dx9s> okay now to remember how to update the initrd from inside the chroot :P
[00:33] <jcastro> SpamapS: we had some import errors, once the cron job runs a few more times we'll be set
[00:33] <jcastro> SpamapS: now that I've moved it by hand summit won't touch it, so you're good to go now
[00:33] <dx9s> update-initramfs -u
[00:34] <dx9s> broder, I think I found the code to comment out... making ISO now and gonna test it soon
[00:34] <dx9s> broder, thanks much
[00:34] <broder> dx9s: np
[00:35] <dx9s> slick .. super slick... it's basically done :P just a little more tweaking broder you rock!!
[01:02] <Sweetshark> kenvandine: ping?
[01:09] <lifeless> ugh, sudoers.d is a massive foot-gun
[01:09] <lifeless> vs visudo
[01:11] <ion> Perhaps there should be a file /etc/sudoers.d.merged which is updated by a dpkg trigger based on files in /etc/sudoers.d and goes via visudo-style checking before getting updated.
[01:12] <lifeless> something like that would have saved me needing to go reboot this box and sit in front of its boot sequence ;)
[01:14] <soren> lifeless: sudo visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/whatever
[01:14] <soren> lifeless: Not particularly convenient, but usable.
[01:15] <lifeless> soren: should be mentioned in the README of that dir
[01:15] <soren> lifeless: Good point.
[01:16] <soren> lifeless: Are you filing a bug or shall I?
[01:16] <ion> Can multiple sudoers files have unforeseen effects *when combined*? If yes, checking the final combination on the system might be appropriate.
[01:16] <lifeless> soren: I'm trying to decide between interrupting a 6GB rsync of a vm over wifi to reboot and fix my file
[01:16] <lifeless> soren: plus right now I suspect I would use inappropriate language in such a bug report.
[01:17] <lifeless> soren: so, if you could, that would be win.
[01:17] <lifeless> ion: I suspect they can but am not completely sure.
[01:18] <ion> rsync is somewhat good at not doing too much extra work when restarting after being interrupted.
[01:19] <soren> ion: Really?
[01:20] <soren> ion: It syncs into a temporary file. I didn't think it found this temporary file again if it were restarted.
[01:20] <soren> lifeless: bug 772822
[01:21] <james_w`> pitti, cdbs branches should be good to go now
[01:21] <ion> soren: --partial
[01:21] <ion> I always use that, mostly in the form of -P
[01:22] <soren> ion: Hm... ACtually, so do I :)
[01:22] <soren> ion: I just forgot.
[01:22] <soren> ion: Muscle memory makes me always do "rsync -aHAPiv", but I forgot what the P was for :)
[01:29] <TheMuso> @pilot in
[01:42] <lifeless> ion: if you supply --partial *when you start*
[01:51] <soreau> There is a bug I've found in the 11.04 installer. Select manual partitioning, then select and existing partition and select which file system type it is. Now in all other installers, you could type a custom mount point but in 11.04 you cannot. I found a workaround is to copy it into clipboard buffer then right click on the mount point text area and select paste manually
[01:53] <TheMuso> soreau: I suggest filing a bug against ubiquity in launchpad.
[01:53] <soreau> TheMuso: Ok thanks (wasn't sure where to file it)
[01:54] <TheMuso> np
[01:54] <micahg> soreau: I believe it's release noted
[01:55] <micahg> soreau: bug 769043
[01:57] <soreau> Ah yes, was just searching through existing reports on launchpad
[01:57] <soreau> thanks micahg
[02:01] <soreau> Hmm, it didn't find any suitable OS to import settings from.  Cool.
[07:24] <RAOF> Yeah; I got a 24" Dell UltraSharp.
[07:24] <didrocks> nice, which resolution? :)
[07:24] <RAOF> 1920x1080
[07:25] <RAOF> So (disappointingly) around 96 DPI.
[07:25] <RAOF> I don't regret not getting the 27", though :)
[07:25] <TheMuso> Yeah I recently picked up a new 24 inch monitor, as my previous one was starting to fail... Coloured line throught eh centre.
[07:25] <didrocks> my 22'' has the same resolution as well, it's already nice :)
[07:26] <TheMuso> My previous 22 inch that is.
[07:26] <didrocks> (I was with my laptop monitor 17 inch, with 1920x1200), so the zoom in is impressivev ;)
[07:26] <RAOF> It makes the Unity semi-maximise snapping much more useful when the screen is wide enough to have two 80-column windows happily on each side.
[07:29] <StevenK> RAOF: Unity stealing Do's summon key makes me sad.
[07:29] <TheMuso> I'm looking forward to the extra resolution for when I need to magnify stuff.
[07:29] <RAOF> StevenK: It made me sad, too.
[07:29] <RAOF> ctrl+alt+space isn't a bad alternative, and I filed a bug with unity.
[07:30] <StevenK> Can has number?
[07:30] <RAOF> Which looked like it might get resolved for a while.
[07:30] <StevenK> I'd like to subscribe
[07:30] <RAOF> bug #704231
[07:33]  * StevenK glares at his laptop
[07:33] <StevenK> That looks like a GPU hang ...
[07:34] <didrocks> StevenK: blame compiz on the stealing :)
[07:35] <didrocks> StevenK: sam made a branch to fix that, but it was basically breaking everything else…
[07:35] <StevenK> didrocks: I wonder if it is possible to fix safely
[07:36] <didrocks> StevenK: not really, in Oneiric yeah, but in Natty, this will ask for etoomanyrewritings of plugins
[07:36] <StevenK> Grrr, bug spam
[07:36] <didrocks> it's basically the whole way compiz is handling Xorg key grab which has to be changed :/
[07:36]  * StevenK hides it
[07:46] <dholbach> good morning
[07:46] <ion> that.
[07:46] <dholbach> pitti, cjwatson: can you confirm bug 759534?
[07:47] <dholbach> it's the closest to what I found today: I couldn't set Norwegian as language in gnome-language-selector
[08:04] <pitti> Good morning
[08:05] <pitti> james_w`: awesome, thanks!
[08:06] <pitti> dholbach: is is not really a bug..
[08:06]  * pitti comments in the report
[08:08] <pitti> done
[08:09] <abhinav-> pitti: what do you think about this ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/772336
[08:11] <pitti> abhinav-: it's on my list of stuff to look at, but I won't have time today, sorry
[08:12] <abhinav-> pitti: alright. no problem. :)
[08:13] <dholbach> pitti, can you try to install "norwegian" on your machine and select it as your language?
[08:13] <dholbach> pitti, it doesn't work for me on 2 machines
[08:14] <pitti> dholbach: in language-selector?
[08:14] <dholbach> pitti, even if the bug I quoted is not "a real bug" I think there's a real problem
[08:14] <dholbach> pitti, yes, please
[08:18] <pitti> hm, doesn't install the langpack nor the locale
[08:19] <dholbach> pitti, I have no idea how to track it down - you can just select the spellchecker options for it on my machines
[08:21] <pitti> dholbach: how did you learn about this, is there a bug report for it already for keeping notes?
[08:22] <dholbach> pitti, I tried to install Norwegian as additional language
[08:22] <dholbach> and set it for a user
[08:25]  * pitti wonders which Norwegian one -- Nynorsk (-nn) or Bokmål (-nb)
[08:26] <pitti> language-pack-nn installs fine here
[08:26] <pitti> so does language-pack-nb; bummer
[08:30] <pitti> oh
[08:30] <pitti> it tries to install -no
[08:31] <pitti> but there is no -no langpack; it's either -nn or -nb
[08:33] <diwic> pitti, I'm checking a Lucid install here, seems like it installs both myspell-nn and myspell-nb
[08:34] <pitti> diwic: yes, that's language-support-writing-no
[08:34] <dholbach> pitti, is the bug I mentioned related to it all?
[08:34] <pitti> but that shouldn't really exist
[08:34] <pitti> dholbach: not really I think
[08:34] <dholbach> I didn't search very long to find a suitable one
[08:34] <pitti> dholbach: there is no en_NO locale
[08:34] <dholbach> ok
[08:48] <dholbach> pitti, I'll file a bug on this - maybe there are other languages affected as well - not sure how to test this
[08:49] <pitti> dholbach: sounds like a special case; thanks for filing the bug, please let me know the number when you are done
[08:52] <dholbach> will do
[08:55] <dholbach> pitti, bug 773009
[08:56] <dholbach> dpm, ^
[08:56] <Sweetshark> hmmm, I am having a strange Ubuntu only issue: "LANGUAGE=C LC_ALL=C gcc -print-file-name=libgcc_s.so.1" according to the man-page should print a full path, but does not. And it seems to be a ubuntu only issue.
[08:57] <dpm> dholbach, thanks, looking...
[08:58] <pitti> dholbach: cheers, updated
[09:06] <mvo> cjwatson: bug #772514 looks like it might be caused by a incomplete perl state during the upgrade (isc-dhcp-client.postinst fails in debconf it seems) do you have a idea how to make that more robust (if that is actually the problem, but it looks like it is)?
[09:07] <dholbach> hey mvo
[09:07] <mvo> hey dholbach
[09:12] <seb128> mvo, he's off today I think, they got a bank holiday due to some weeding ;-)
[09:13] <mvo> woah, must be a important one, we don't get anything like this in my part of the world
[09:13] <mvo> seb128: thanks seb128
[09:14] <seb128> ;-)
[09:14] <seb128> yw
[09:43] <Sweetshark> hmm, my build expects a /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.5.2/libgcc_s.so.1 symlink -- which seems to work on other distros. Can anyone shed a light on which lib one should expect where?
[09:44] <seb128> seems like a doko's question
[09:53] <corno> i would appreciate it if someone can give me some advice or point me in the right direction, my story as follows:
[09:54] <corno> i'm new to the LaunchPad system, joined a few days ago and would love to get involved with bug-fixing/development
[09:54] <corno> i've found a specific bug that i'm interested in (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/484252)
[09:54] <corno> a patch has been submitted to the bug item, this patch is made on top of usb-creator version 0.2.28 as far as i can tell
[09:54] <corno> when i checked out the latest TRUNK i see that other fixes/changes have been committed in the meantime
[09:54] <ogra_> Sweetshark, mutiarch ?
[09:54] <corno> if i want to test (for education purposes) this aforementioned patch, should i test it against the latest trunk (involving some merging first as the patch affects already changed areas)?
[09:54] <ogra_> err
[09:54] <ogra_> *multi
[09:54] <corno> any pointers are most welcome thanks
[09:56] <seb128> hey corno
[09:56] <Sweetshark> ogra_: there is a /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.5.2/libgcc_s.so, so it the .1 which confuses the build
[09:56] <corno> seb128:  hi :)
[09:57] <seb128> corno, ubuntu-sponsors should be subscribed to the bug for the patch to be in the review queue
[09:57] <seb128> corno, it would be best to test on trunk if you can update the patch to apply to that version
[09:58] <seb128> corno, but testing on 0.2.28 is better than nothing
[09:58] <ogra_> Sweetshark, ah, yeah, then its doko :)
[09:59] <corno> seb128:  thanks for the pointers, appreciated.  think i will get my hands dirty with the trunk testing instead, after applying/merge patch to trunk version.  think i will learn more following that route.
[09:59] <seb128> corno, do you have specific questions?
[10:00] <seb128> corno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu might be worth reading if you need infos
[10:00] <corno> seb128:  and when i can confirm the patch does what it should, i'll just generate a patch (should find instructions on wiki) and just attach to bug again right?
[10:00] <seb128> yes
[10:00] <seb128> corno, or do a merge proposal on launchpad
[10:01] <corno> seb128:  have read most wiki pages RE contributing/dev/bug fixing.  just a lot to wrap my head around and thought i'd come and make contact here to fast track my learning curve.
[10:01] <seb128> corno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff as well
[10:02] <seb128> corno, that page explains merge proposals and debdiffs, usb-creator is maintained as an upstream project on launchpad so merge proposal might be the easier way
[10:02] <seb128> corno, ok, feel free to ask questions if you block on something, otherwise ev is maintaining usb-creator but he's off today since it's an uk bank holiday
[10:04] <corno> seb128:  he was probably invited to the Royal Wedding ;)
[10:04] <corno> seb128:  thanks again for all the pointers.
[10:06] <seb128> ;-)
[10:06] <seb128> you're welcome
[10:06] <corno> seb128:  awesome page ->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff
[10:08] <seb128> we have nice documentation, there is just a lot on the wiki so it's not always easy to find what you need
[10:08] <seb128> but yeah ;-)
[10:11] <corno> seb128:  yep, the wiki is very helpful, just a question of filtering out the exact information i need to start my ubuntu dev journey.
[10:28] <corno> seb128:  the "bzr branch" command will actually create a new branch dir on the LP system?
[10:29] <seb128> corno, no, it gives you a local one
[10:29] <seb128> but you can push it tp lp:~user... then
[10:29] <seb128> to
[10:29] <seb128> that will create a new one
[10:31] <corno> seb128:  thanks
[10:40] <corno> seb128:  feeling a bit stupid, need some help with the branch command
[10:41] <hrw> ok, natty released. time to switch to oneiric?
[10:41] <corno> seb128:  i'm having a look here:  https://launchpad.net/usb-creator and when i do the branch
[10:42] <corno> seb128:  bzr branch lp:usb-creator lp-checkout
[10:42] <corno> seb128:  am not sure about the part after "lp:"
[10:43] <ogra_> hrw, definitely ! oneiric-changes already has 6 packages !
[10:44] <hrw> ogra_: german mirror lacks oneiric dirs - so I will wait few days
[10:44] <chrisccoulson> that reminds me - must subscribe!
[10:45] <ogra_> hrw, bah, these german slackers ...
[10:45] <hrw> ;D
[10:58] <dpm> cjwatson, hi, where is the Chinese iso available for download?
[12:08] <seb128> corno, sorry I was out, that should work, what error do you get? did you try without the lp-checkout bit?
[12:43] <GunnarHj> ScottK: Hi Scott, Could you please approve bug 771661. It's a pure update due to a proposed SRU. Thought I'd prevent that regression bugs start dropping in this time. ;-)  (Pls let me know if participation by ubuntu-backporters is redundant in a case like this.)
[12:43] <ScottK> GunnarHj: Done.
[12:44] <GunnarHj> ScottK: Thanks! 47 seconds, not bad. :)
[12:46] <ScottK> I think ubuntu-backporters is not redundant in this case, but it's easy to say if it's good enough for SRU, it's good enough for me.
[13:30] <dpm> pitti, I was about to go back to the nouveau driver after having installed nvidia r173. However, when starting jockey-gtk, I'm no longer presented with the option of choosing the nouveau driver. Is this a known bug, or expected behaviour?
[13:33] <corno> seb128:  was my turn to be out now :)
[13:34] <corno> it checked out successfully, my command:  bzr branch lp:usb-creator lp-checkout
[13:34] <corno> and i ended up with the latest in my "lp-checkout" dir
[13:55] <pitti> dpm: if you merely disable the nvidia one you should get back to nouveau automatically
[13:58] <dpm> pitti, yes, that works, thanks. Out of curiosity, why is the behaviour like that instead of just showing all the available drivers?
[14:10] <hrw> question: someone moved main machine to oneiric?
[14:11]  * ogra_ never upgrades before A1
[14:12] <hrw> ogra: your ac100 was not safe even at B1 iirc
[14:12] <ogra_> it is now
[14:12] <ogra_> we have a proper kernel source now ... got a lot better ... still not finished though
[14:13] <hrw> ogra: so which kernel ver now?
[14:13] <ogra_> .37
[14:13] <hrw> nice
[14:13] <hrw> android device based or mainline + patches?
[14:14] <ogra_> mainline + patches
[14:14] <ogra_> and a good chunk already went to .39
[14:14] <hrw> awesome
[14:14] <hrw> audio or smp works?
[14:14] <ogra_> by the time you cant buy the device in stores anymore we will have a proper mainline kernel :)
[14:15] <ogra_> smp, CPU PM and backlight work
[14:15] <ogra_> there is a fake sound driver but the actual codec isnt there yet
[14:15] <ogra_> (i have input and output devices but no actual sound)
[14:16] <hrw> ogra: there will be other tegra2 deives too
[14:16] <ogra_> yeah, but they will all need different kernels i fear
[14:16] <ogra_> ac100 and folio 100 have nearly the same boards for example
[14:17] <ogra_> but the kernel isnt interchangeable
[14:21] <corno> seb128:  regarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff.  no 2 and 3, do they both create branches/dirs on local hdd?
[14:21] <corno> seb128:  or does no 3 create the branch/dir remotely on LP side?
[14:22] <seb128> corno, sorry if you get a local copy working I'm not sure what your question or issue is
[14:23] <seb128> corno, oh, yes, 2 does a copy from the server version
[14:23] <seb128> n°3 does a new copy which you can use to hack on your modified version$
[14:23] <seb128> so you get a checkout from trunk and a patch directory where you can work
[14:24] <seb128> you could just checkout the trunk hack directly in it and push that on you personal space, not sure why the page suggest doing a copy in 3- but that works as well
[14:25] <seb128> it has the advantage to keep you a trunk checkout so you can use it again or update it and keep working on your patch in the new copy you do in 3
[14:26] <corno> seb128:  ah, makes sense to have the "untouched" copy, espeically when the source in question is relatively large. thanks for clearing up.
[14:26] <seb128> yw
[14:42] <lool> Hmm I get a signature rejection when uploading to oneiric:
[14:42] <lool>   Uploading linaro-image-tools_0.4.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes: 1k/2k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ["(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')"] : Permission denied.
[14:42] <lool> but gpg --verify ../linaro-image-tools_0.4.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes passes
[14:42] <lool> (and on the .dsc as well)
[14:43] <mdke> I've had the error a few times recently when uploading to natty
[14:43] <mdke> the upload seems to work though
[14:44] <ScottK> lool: LP bug.
[14:44] <seb128> lool, could have worked, the errors seems to be a false warning
[14:44] <ScottK> The upload went through.
[14:44] <seb128> that's happening for a month or so
[14:44] <lool> Ok; thanks
[14:44] <ScottK> wgrant was making vague promises it would be fixed soon recently.
[14:53] <pitti> dpm: please feel free to report (or check for) a bug report of this
[15:01] <cdbs> Whoa? Oneiric open for development?
[15:01] <cdbs> Okay, its just a misleading blog post on UbuntuUser
[15:02] <charlie-tca> it was announced through the mailing lists
[15:02] <cdbs> No wait, it IS open! Did we break the world records for quickest opening?
[15:03] <cdbs> charlie-tca: yes I just got the mail
[15:09] <rigved> so does that mean that i can download and install onieric? is this a pre-alpha release?
[15:10] <cdbs> rigved: In theory, yes. But its severely unstable right now
[15:10] <rigved> cdbs: ok. so maybe in a vm then?
[15:10] <cdbs> rigved: Daily builds should start to come up in 1-2 weeks
[15:11] <rigved> cdbs: oh ok. i think i'll wait till the daily build is out. i always find that better to download via zsync
[15:11] <cdbs> rigved: until then the only way to use oneiric is to upgrade the hard way i.e. change all appearances of natty in /etc/apt/sources.list to oneiric and apt-get dist-upgrade. WARNING: unstable software
[15:11] <rigved> cdbs: no i don't want to do that. thanks :)
[15:12] <cdbs> rigved: Even I never did that. I've always installed from the daily builds
[15:12] <wgrant> cdbs: We were nearly able to open 12 hours ago, but the mirrors were overloaded :(
[15:12] <wgrant> ScottK, lool: That bogus warning should be gone now.
[15:13] <cdbs> wgrant: hmm, why such a hurry? All previous openings were a week after release of previous version
[15:13] <cdbs> or even more
[15:13] <barry> wgrant: yeah, even doing sbuilds yesterday was painful ;)
[15:13] <wgrant> cdbs: It's normally only a couple of days nowadays.
[15:13] <cdbs> wgrant: But this was by far the quickest
[15:13] <wgrant> Indeed.
[15:13] <wgrant> The toolchain was prepared in a PPA, so no iteration in the primary archive was required.
[15:13] <cdbs> I remember cjwatson terming the natty opening to be the quickest, still it took 5 days
[15:21] <AndreaAzzarone> hello! in gtk3 there is libglade?
[15:27] <lool> wgrant: Cool; thanks
[15:29] <andrea__> hello! in gtk3 there is libglade?
[15:41] <cdbs> andersk: You mean in Natty? yes
[15:41] <cdbs> andersk: you'll need to install glade-3 though
[15:42] <cdbs> oops
[15:42] <cdbs> sorry andersk , wanted to answer andrea__ who eft
[15:42] <cdbs> *left
[15:48] <seb128> cdbs, not sutre your reply was correct, libglade is deprecated for a while in favor of gtkbuilder
[15:49] <seb128> glade is just the gui used to edit those
[15:49] <cdbs> seb128: yes I did realize that, would have said it in the next line if he was around
[15:49] <cdbs> seb128: It is non-existant in GNOME3 isn't it?
[15:50] <seb128> libglade? it's deprecated yes, there is no gtk3 version
[16:06]  * stgraber will need to write a new release procedure for his work environment (VMs + chroot + bzr branches + e-mail filters + ...), this all take a lot of time :)
[16:37] <corno> i have a question RE https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/GettingSetUp
[16:37] <corno> in there it has a step:  "pbuilder-dist <release> create"
[16:38] <corno> where <release> means:  Replace this with the codename of the version of Ubuntu or Debian you want to use.
[16:39] <corno> does that just mean for the distribution/release you are going to test/dev on?
[16:40] <corno> i see that it will download all the necessary packages for a "minimal installation".
[16:41] <ScottK> Yes
[16:42] <corno> ok cool, just wanted to make sure that it has nothing to do with the TARGET milestone or release.
[16:42] <corno> and that it is all about the environment that you have currently installed and on which you want to dev & test.
[16:48] <Laney> jcastro: Can you get the DMB session scheduled please? If too much stuff gets scheduled into that slot then it increases the chance of conflicts (there's already one with me)
[16:52] <james_w`> Laney, which session?
[16:52] <Laney> james_w`: do you mean which one am I conflicted with?
[16:53] <james_w`> Laney, it's already scheduled and you want it re-scheduled?
[16:53] <Laney> james_w`: it's not scheduled, I need it to be so that the scheduler doesn't create conflicts which would make other DMBers unable to attend
[16:54] <james_w`> Laney, ok, which session do you mean?
[16:54] <james_w`> I'm trying to debug why some things aren't getting autoscheduled
[16:54] <Laney> the regular DMB meeting
[16:54] <Laney> there's no blueprint or anything for it
[16:55] <jcastro> cjwatson or pitti: can one of you add scottk to ~uds-organizers? I need him to be able to approve/decline kubuntu topics.
[16:55] <james_w`> Laney, why no blueprint?
[16:55] <ScottK> cjwatson or pitti: LP username kitterman
[16:56] <ScottK> (scottk in LP is entirely someone else)
[16:56] <Laney> james_w`: because it's nothing which needs discussion or will result in WIs or anything like that
[16:56] <Laney> should there be one anyway?
[16:57] <Laney> it is just our fortnightly meeting to approve new people
[16:57] <james_w`> Laney, that's how required participants are set, which is what stops the scheduler from creating clashes
[16:57] <james_w`> so there's not much point in scheduling it without that
[16:57] <Laney> alright I'll file one
[16:57] <jcastro> Laney: right, just create a blueprint and mark the required people
[16:57] <jcastro> and post UDS we'll just delete it or whatever
[16:58] <Laney> figured there would be a way to do it without creating a noop blueprint, but ho hum :-)
[16:58] <james_w`> what do you want, a system that caters to all your needs?!?!?
[16:59] <Laney> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-o-dmb-meeting there you go
[17:01] <james_w`> jcastro, can you accept that? ^
[17:02]  * SpamapS is still quite confused why summit uses .edge.
[17:03] <Laney> I didn't check the essential button for cody-somerville, sorry :'(
[17:04] <jcastro> SpamapS: which part is referring to edge? I've not run into edge URLs
[17:05] <Laney> the blueprint links all go to edge
[17:06] <james_w`> https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/no-edge/+merge/59526
[17:07] <Laney> beat me to it!
[17:07] <Laney> still uses the edge api though
[17:08] <jcastro> ah
[17:17] <ScottK> slangasek: Do I need to prod you about spec approval or can I assume you'll read your LP mail and get to it?
[17:30] <kirkland> mvo: lifeless: howdy!  what does it take to get a system installing via the server or the alternate cd to use a squid-deb-proxy?  is it possible?
[17:32] <mvo> kirkland: iirc the altnerate install ask for a proxy during the network setup step, but its probably only done in manual mode. not sure if its possible to put that into the dhcp data
[17:46] <kirkland> mvo: hmm, i should be able to preseed it, right?
[17:46] <kirkland> mvo: but it's not a generic http proxy;  it's just a deb proxy, so i'm unsure
[17:54] <mvo> kirkland: yeah, preseed should work. right, its not a generic proxy, maybe its best to seed it only for the install and have something that removes it afterwards. altneratively you could install squid-deb-proxy-client for auto-discovery, but that would have to be done pretty early in the process. or just write /etc/apt/apt.conf with the acquire::http::proxy early
[17:54]  * mvo needs to go for dinner now
[17:54] <kirkland> mvo: is there a udeb that can be installed early enough?
[17:54] <kirkland> mvo: i didn't see one in my first look
[17:56] <mvo> kirkland: I think there is none, but that should be straightforward to create, that is a nice idea
[17:57] <kirkland> mvo: cool
[17:57] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ^
[17:59] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok... what I'm trying to do is netboot the mini ISO but use the mirror synced by cobbler
[17:59] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: and trying to tell that in the preseed
[18:05] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok I got it
[18:05] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: this is sweet!
[18:07] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: using the mirror info from http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/example-preseed.txt ?
[18:14] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah, I added the mirror part to your preseed like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/600874/
[18:14] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: which points to the mirror location (which in fact is a full server ISO import)
[18:15] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: but the idea is to have a template seed that automatically sets the mirror for each ISO imported
[18:15] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: *exactly* !!!
[18:17] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: so basically we can use the reposync feature in cobbler to do this when importing mini ISO's, or/and have squid-deb-proxy to handle the updates
[18:18] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: yeah
[18:19] <soreau> Guys I'm totally lost here and I can't find anyone who knows what's going on.. I open sound-preferences from the volume icon on gnome-panel in natty and it also automatically opens a terminal that starts orca (and starts talking). I exit the terminal and it restarts itself automatically. What is going on here?
[18:22] <slangasek> ScottK: let's assume for the moment that prodding me is the safer option until I tell you otherwise :)
[18:27] <SpamapS> mvo: that software-center upload to natty-proposed is massive
[18:29] <SpamapS> kirkland: for s-d-p .. I don't think the client updates d-i's proxy information.. just apt.. so you'll need to have that udeb specifically talk to d-i
[18:30] <SpamapS> soreau: you will probably have better luck getting support in #ubuntu
[18:35] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok so after installation, /etc/apt/sources.list points to the cobbler mirror
[18:36] <SpamapS> kirkland: I like the idea of automatically making use of an s-d-p during installs eventually. Not sure if we want to make it that easy to mitm installs though (even w/ the cryptographic protections.. seems like asking for trouble)
[18:37] <kirkland> Sp4rKy: right
[18:38] <Sp4rKy> :)
[18:39] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: why not do this? 1. Create repos with cobbler. 2. Every time we import an ISO use a preseed that points to the cobbler's repo/mirror. 3. let cobbler update the repo/mirror (it's just matter of cobbler reposync)
[18:39] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: obviosly the first sync of the mirror will take quite a long time
[18:40] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i don't think it's reasonable to *require* 500GB+ of disk space to run orchestra, out of the box
[18:41] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: squid-deb-proxy gives us the benefit of caching a subset of the archive locally
[18:41] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and if every Orchestra deployment came to require mirroring the archive, we'd kill the main mirrors with everyone's initial sync :-)
[18:43] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: you are right :)
[18:43] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: that said, we should definitely support/allow people to run their own mirros
[18:43] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: as many large ubuntu deployments may well have one
[18:44] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: I agree!
[18:49] <soreau> SpamapS: I already asked several times in #ubuntu
[19:12] <geser> kees: Hi, is it ok if I take the vim merge of you?
[19:14] <till_> [not strictly ubuntu-devel, so excuse the OT, but] does anyone else have trouble resolving ppa.launchpad.net?
[19:14] <kees> geser: sure thing! thanks!
[19:15] <kees> $ host ppa.launchpad.net
[19:15] <kees> ppa.launchpad.net has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:15] <kees> till_: ^^
[19:15] <till_> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release.gpg Could not connect to ppa.launchpad.net:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[19:16] <till_> kees: yeah, sorry, resolving works, anything else doesn't
[19:16] <geser> till_: the connection might be a little stressed right now due to release
[20:08] <bdmurray> @pilot in
[20:09] <stgraber> Laney: thanks for schedulding the DMB uds session!
[20:10] <Laney> np :-)
[20:10] <Laney> stgraber: hope it gets scheduled soon. there's one session I'm essential for at that time already
[20:13] <cnd> jcastro, I created blueprints for uds named "dx-o-touch-<blah>", do I need to recreate them as "desktop-dx-o-touch-<blah>"?
[20:14] <stgraber> jcastro: ^ can you schedule Laney's session (other-o-dmb-meeting)
[20:14] <jcastro> cnd: no you need to rename them that
[20:14] <cnd> jcastro, how do I rename them?
[20:14] <cnd> maybe I just didn't see the button :)
[20:14] <jcastro> on the bp page
[20:14] <jcastro> top right, details link
[20:15] <cnd> jcastro, found it, thanks!
[20:15] <jcastro> stgraber: accepted it, it should hit the scheduler on the next cron job (hourly)
[20:16] <Laney> jcastro: it needs to be scheduled at a specific time
[20:16] <Laney> monday 16:00
[20:20] <mvo> SpamapS: the s-c upload is massive  ? to proposed? let me double check, should not be. I mean, not tiny, but not massive
[20:22] <mvo> SpamapS: this is what diffstat shows  for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/600934/ - is that what you see too?
[20:27] <stgraber> Laney: I can move it then if it's not scheduled at the right time.
[20:27] <Laney> stgraber: ok sounds good
[20:28] <m4n1sh> anyone here knows about firefox addons debugging?
[20:37] <abhinav-> m4n1sh: try #ubuntu-mozillateam :)
[20:38] <m4n1sh> abhinav-: thanks. even on irc.mozilla.org :)
[20:38] <abhinav-> oh yea :)
[20:46] <corno> i have a question RE the command "pbuilder-dist natty create"
[20:46] <ohsix> where can i see the build status for main archive packages?
[20:48] <corno> i get the following output from it:   initramfs-tools : Depends: udev (>= 147~-5) but it is not installed
[20:48] <corno>  libc6-dev : Depends: linux-libc-dev but it is not installed
[20:48] <corno>  mountall : Depends: udev but it is not installed
[20:48] <corno>  plymouth : Depends: udev (>= 166-0ubuntu4) but it is not installed
[20:48] <corno>  python2.7-minimal : Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1) but it is not installed
[20:48] <Sarvatt> ohsix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds
[20:48] <ohsix> Sarvatt: thanks :D
[20:49] <ohsix> ahh i see, the package i was interested in wasn't even uploaded for my arch; the upload for proposed was finished for i386 hours ago
[20:50] <ohsix> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=pithos&build_state=all how do you get someone to copy it to another arch?
[20:50] <corno> is that normal? or should i fix that for my dev env to work properly?
[20:53] <ohsix> Sarvatt: is that something i can just ask an archive admin to do or should i ping the maintainer
[20:56] <corno> i think i might have a bigger problem
[20:56] <corno> when i execute this:  "pbuilder-dist natty build ../usb-creator_0.2.29.dsc"
[20:57] <corno> i sit with this [error] output:  I: Building the build Environment
[20:57] <corno> I: extracting base tarball [/home/corno/pbuilder/natty-base.tgz]
[20:57] <corno> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[20:57] <bdmurray> check your dmesg for hardware errors
[20:58] <corno> any ideas how to fix this problem? i'm probably doing something silly.
[21:03] <corno> bdmurry:  was the dmesg msg for me?
[21:03] <corno> *bdmurray
[21:03] <bdmurray> corno: yes
[21:04] <corno> bdmurray:  nothing in dmesg
[21:04] <bdmurray> corno: okay, it was just a thought
[21:05] <corno> bdmurray:  i'm correct in saying that archive is built when running "pbuilder-dist natty create"?
[21:07] <bdmurray> corno: I'm not really familiar with pbuilder
[21:07] <Laney> sounds like the basetgz is broken
[21:07] <Laney> i'd delete it and recreate
[21:07] <corno> Laney:  meaning re-run "pbuilder-dist natty create"?
[21:08] <Laney> corno: yeah
[21:08] <corno> Laney:  thanks, will give it a shot.
[21:09] <Sarvatt> ohsix: its arch all which always builds on i386, not sure why its not in proposed yet though because it looks like it should be
[21:09] <corno> Laney:  oh btw, i think it is safe to assume the tgz is broken, i just checked its size:  0K  :)
[21:09] <ohsix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pithos/+bug/759699 well this is the bug i was going by
[21:10] <Sarvatt> ohsix: oh its just not on some of the mirrors yet
[21:10] <ohsix> ah ok
[21:10] <Sarvatt> ohsix: it's on archive.ubuntu.com
[21:11] <Sarvatt> now its on us.archive.ubuntu.com too, wasnt a few minutes ago
[21:11] <ohsix> it'll probably be on my mirror by the time i need it :D
[21:42] <ScottK> Meep.
[21:43] <ScottK> Not what you want to see in your build log: /usr/bin/apt-cache exit status 11
[21:43] <ScottK> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/70709627/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.boost-mpi-source1.46_1.46.1-4ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[21:44] <ohsix> har
[21:44] <penguin42> ScottK: I'd check to see if the apt-cache got built with the compiler with shrink-wrap on or off
[21:44] <ScottK> penguin42: It's an in archive build, so ...
[21:47] <corno> when doing "pbuilder-dist natty create"
[21:47] <corno> i see msgs like:  W: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl0.9.8_0.9.8o-5ubuntu1_i386.deb was corrupt
[21:47] <corno> W: Couldn't download package libssl0.9.8
[21:47] <corno> anyone else seen those?
[21:49] <ohsix> did you check and see if you were having hardware/disk problems yet?
[21:49] <corno> ohsix:  yep, and i didn't see anything suspicious
[21:51] <ohsix> aside from the file verification failures ;]
[21:52] <corno> ohsix:  lol, yeah :)
[21:59] <corno> natty-base.tgz keeps on being 0K
[21:59] <corno> would this have anything to do with it?  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:59] <corno>  initramfs-tools : Depends: udev (>= 147~-5) but it is not installed
[21:59] <corno>  libc6-dev : Depends: linux-libc-dev but it is not installed
[21:59] <corno>  mountall : Depends: udev but it is not installed
[21:59] <corno>  plymouth : Depends: udev (>= 166-0ubuntu4) but it is not installed
[21:59] <corno>  python2.7-minimal : Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1) but it is not installed
[21:59] <corno> i guess not?
[22:01] <penguin42> anyone know how long it's taking for a ppa upload to do anything?
[22:02] <ohsix> penguin42: look at the build status for the package, there are links on the pages after a successful upload
[22:02] <ohsix> you'll get an email if the upload fails too; theres kind of a few minutes of dead time after an upload, just need to wait a bit
[22:02] <penguin42> ohsix: I did the upload about 4 hours ago, it said it successfully uploaded and their is nothing on the web page
[22:03] <ohsix> url to the ppa?
[22:03] <penguin42> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-treblig/+archive/kdefixes
[22:03] <Ampelbein> penguin42: there was a problem with ppas few hours ago
[22:03] <ohsix> did you already add a public key to your account and sign your upload with it?
[22:04] <penguin42> ohsix: Yes, I've done a few before
[22:04] <ohsix> ah ok
[22:04] <penguin42> Ampelbein: Does that mean it'll eventually bubble through or that it needs reuploading?
[22:05] <Ampelbein> penguin42: you can never be wrong by reuploading ;-)
[22:05] <penguin42> haha
[22:05] <corno> when doing a "pbuilder create", surely one shouldn't get the msg that some of the files on the server is corrupt?  done it now the 4th time, always give the corrupt msg for the same group of files.
[22:06] <penguin42> Ampelbein: Ah - ppa.launchpad.net is giving connection refused so something is obviously still borked
[22:06] <Ampelbein> corno: most likely you have a faulty piece of hardware on your side
[22:06] <Ampelbein> penguin42: http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus says it is fixed, maybe ask in #launchpad
[22:07] <penguin42> corno: : I've seen that happen with bad ram
[22:07] <corno> penguin42, doing it on the same files, every time?
[22:08] <penguin42> corno: I've got to admit that's more unusual unless it's the big file
[22:08] <penguin42> corno: Or it's in a cache somewhere that's corrupt
[22:08] <penguin42> Ampelbein: Thanks, asked
[22:09] <corno> penguin42, am doing the pbuild differently now, and didn't see the corrupt message again for some of the files
[22:09] <corno> have been breaking like that when i ran this:  pbuilder-dist natty create
[22:09] <Ampelbein> penguin42: I just noticed elmo changed topic 20 minutes ago in #launchpad
[22:09] <Ampelbein> "PPA uploads are down"
[22:09] <corno> this time around i'm using this:  sudo pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd
[22:10] <corno> and i'm getting [better] results.
[22:10] <corno> so far it has only broke on a locale file
[22:10] <penguin42> Ampelbein: Oh yeh; I really should read topics :-(
[22:10] <corno> and there it still breaks on udev :(
[22:11] <corno> can i somehow force this pbuild process to contact a different server perhaps?
[22:11] <corno> as a test?
[22:12] <Ampelbein> corno: with the --mirror option, yes
[22:12] <corno> Ampelbein, thanks
[22:18] <corno> will try again tomorrow, for now i'm out. thanks for all help so far.
[23:37] <ScottK> Laney: RE your blog post: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-backports-bof/
[23:50] <timholum> Does anyone know where the source for the ubuntu search menu is that is new in 11.04?
[23:50] <timholum> I would like to write a small patch for it
[23:58] <achiang> timholum: that is called the dash
[23:58] <timholum> achiang: thanks that will probably help me find it :)
[23:58] <achiang> timholum: so i guess you can do: apt-get source unity
[23:58] <achiang> and start reading. :)
[23:59] <timholum> :) ok, do you know what language the dash is written in by chance ?
[23:59] <achiang> timholum: although depending on what you want to do, you may find that writing a "lens" is closer to what you want
[23:59] <achiang> a lens would be used to extend dash functionality
[23:59] <achiang> a patch would be to change/fix existing functionality
[23:59] <timholum> ok so if I wanted to make \\<IP_ADDRESS> open up a smb connection
[23:59] <timholum> that would probably be a lens


[00:34] <j1mc> hi jjesse
[08:02] <mdke> sommer: well, it's really the 20th. But if the feature is going to be in hardy, it's a shame that there is no documentation - is it going to be?
[12:27] <sommer> mdke: cool, I'll try to contact the developer working on it and get the status.  If nothing else I'll document how it should work and hope that it does by relaese :-)
[13:00] <ubotu> New bug: #110983 in ubuntu-docs (main) "translation english-german" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110983
[16:21] <ubotu> New bug: #203198 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Broken CompizFusion's wiki link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203198
[20:06] <ubotu> New bug: #203286 in ubuntu-docs (main) "about-ubuntu page for es_ES locale is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203286
[20:10] <mdke> sommer: cool thanks
[21:47] <dsas> oops mdke I think I just stole your commit some how
[21:47] <dsas> I hope this doesn't mean that I get the blame if you broke something!
[21:58] <mdke> mdke: hmm?
[21:58] <mdke> ah, i see
[21:59] <mdke> looks alright
[21:59] <mdke> dsas: you should bind your branch...
[22:04] <dsas> mdke: That means any commits are automatically pushed right?
[22:04] <mdke> dsas: yes, and it won't let you commit without updating if there are new revisions
[22:05] <dsas> mdke: aha, done.
[22:05] <mdke> it's cool


[00:08] <su> got a question about k panels
[00:09] <su> I have a panel at the top and would like to add more application launchers
[00:09] <su> http://i51.tinypic.com/rbhyr5.jpg
[00:09] <su> http://i55.tinypic.com/1214qb9.jpg
[00:10] <su> can't remember how I added the first set of launchers, but I think I added them from the desktop.  Could be wrong though
[00:11] <su> ha i got it, nvm -- need to add them via the application launcher menu
[00:11] <su> :D  ::cheers::
[00:19] <DiogenesW> gute nacht
[00:29] <Roey> hey all
[00:29] <Roey> Riddell:   kdebase-workspace-bin amd64 4:4.5.80-0ubuntu5~maverick1~ppa1  ->  4.6 beta?
[00:29] <Roey> Riddell:  I was surprised it was not tagged 4:4.5.4
[00:37] <xoma> how to install additional locale?
[00:41] <phoenix_firebrd> i want a dictionary. i dont want to install the front end app and the dictionary file seperately. any dictionary that comes bundled with the dict file?
[02:42] <dibs> is the current kde with maverick pretty stable? is it worth checking out?
[03:15] <abhifx_> i have a wired broadband and my internetis working partialy. can someone help?
[03:17] <moetunes> what do you mean by "partially" ?
[03:18] <surunveri> hi
[03:19] <surunveri> anyone know how to change mouse sensitivity to slower than what system settings allows using kubuntu 10.04
[03:20] <moetunes> surunveri:  you can look at man xset - something like xset m 3/2 4 might work for you
[03:20] <surunveri> i think i tried that
[03:20] <surunveri> but i'll try again :D
[03:21] <surunveri> what's the slowest possible option for xset?
[03:22] <moetunes> it takes a fractional valie - 3/2 = 1.5 so you could try 1/1
[03:22] <surunveri> kk well i dont tihnk that slows it down to any further than what systemsettings allows
[03:23] <surunveri> i think the 3/2 part means teh acceleration which can be set to 0.1 from settings.. well i didnt notice any difference at least :/
[03:23] <moetunes> the default is 2/1 iirc
[03:24] <moetunes> try with the threshold set to 0 then
[03:24] <surunveri> that wont work either
[03:25] <moetunes> just saying won't work isn't really useful...
[03:25] <surunveri> yea it doesnt
[03:25] <surunveri> :D
[03:28] <surunveri> anyhow i've had this problem for quite soem time and it would be really nice to find a solution for it
[03:30] <surunveri> wel changing OS Would be one but it's troublesome D:
[03:54] <saprophyte> i have kubuntu installed. then installed a second distro for dual boot.  after reboot, the second distro boots fine, but when i select kubuntu in grub, i get a blank screen with a blinking curser. any ideas?
[04:30] <valorie> !grub
[04:30] <valorie> saprophyte: ^^^
[04:31] <valorie> sounds like your MBR got corrupted by the second install
[04:32] <valorie> dibs: I'm running KDE 4.5.4 in 10.10 -- no problems yet
[04:35] <dv6> ciao
[05:23] <valorie> urgh, I take that back about KDE updates
[05:24] <valorie> my headphones no longer work
[05:24] <valorie> :(
[05:41] <wedo> hi
[05:41] <wedo> I need help please
[05:42] <wedo> I was updating my system but by mistake I shutdown the system and now can not get it run again
[05:42] <coder2> how can i make kdm default manager instead  of gdm??help
[05:42] <wedo> it freezes at the login screen
[05:43] <moetunes> wedo:  boot into the recovery option and do   sudo apt-get install -f
[05:44] <wedo> moetunes: when I choose recovery mode it freezes before reach the recovery menu
[05:46] <moetunes> wedo:  you'll have to boot into the live cd and chroot into the broken install then
[05:46] <sayakb> hey. using kde 4.5.4 on meerkat with fglrx (ati) driver. appears that the sliding of plasma tooltips when shifting focus from one object to another is now gone. is there a setting for that or was it removed (or is my driver the culprit)?
[05:46] <moetunes> !chroot
[05:46] <moetunes> wedo:  ^^
[05:46] <coder2> how can i make kdm default manager instead  of gdm??help
[05:47] <wedo> moetunes: I think the problem happened because it was updating the kernel from 2.6-32-25 to 2.6-32-26 but it did not complete
[05:48] <moetunes> wedo:  yep that'll break things
[05:49] <moetunes> wedo:  do you have an older kernel to boot into?
[05:49] <wedo> moetunes: there are another kernel listed in the grub menu but it freezes too when I choose any of them
[05:51] <moetunes> wedo:  sounds like you only choice is the chroot environment - or a reinstall...
[05:51] <sayakb> wedo: chroot from liveCD and reinstall linux-headers.
[05:51] <moetunes> it is probably alot more that's wrong then just the headers
[05:52] <wedo> ok thank you guys
[05:52] <DarkriftX> anyone here know their way around the plasmoid yasp-scripted?
[05:52] <DarkriftX> mine stopped showing any data for lines that use "systemmonitor:" in them
[05:52] <sayakb> moetunes: yes, but reinstalling the headers shoould reinstall the kernel, no?
[05:53] <moetunes> sayakb:  not afaik - they are different packages
[05:53] <sayakb> moetunes: ah, looks like headers is a metapackage, my bad..
[05:53] <moetunes> np :)
[06:00] <DarkriftX> anyone know how to make kde re-read your plasmoids?  i Just recompiled a newer version of one i have but it still shows the old one in the list
[06:36] <dhq> need help remove alsa
[06:36] <dhq> i messed up
[06:36] <dhq> i wanna start over ?
[06:38] <moetunes> dhq:  doing   sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa   should get the configs return to the default
[06:39] <dhq> moetunes: Package `alsa' is not installed and no info is available.Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents./usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: alsa is not installed
[06:40] <moetunes> try dpkg -l | grep alsa
[06:40] <moetunes> !find alsa
[06:41] <dhq> dhq@dhqlaptop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[06:41] <dhq> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: alsa-source is broken or not fully installed
[06:41] <moetunes> I would have thought alsa-base would be the one - try sudo apt-get install -f then
[06:43] <dhq> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[06:44] <moetunes> sudo apt-get install -f   is to fix broken packages
[06:44] <moetunes> sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[06:45] <dhq> those commands return to next line
[06:46] <moetunes> check the alsa configs to see if they were reverted back
[06:47] <dhq> i did use a script to build from source
[06:47] <moetunes> did you use checkinstall to make a deb?
[06:47] <moetunes> !checkinstall
[06:50] <dhq> i dint use check install
[06:51] <moetunes> you'll have to manually edit the files or install it again and hope the files get rewritten then
[06:52] <dhq> how do i do that
[06:53] <moetunes> I have no idea what files are involved in whatever it was you installed - try using checkinstal;l to make theapp again
[06:53] <dhq> isnt there a way to purge entire alsa from the system and then reinstall it
[06:55] <moetunes> only if it was installed from the package manager - how can stuff be managed if it was just added any old how
[06:56] <moetunes> and not by the package manager
[06:57] <dhq> :(
[06:58] <dhq> i have no sound
[06:58] <moetunes> live and learn...
[07:00] <dhq> moetunes: thanks for your help
[07:18] <enderw99> has anyone else had an issue with kde 4.6 beta 1 with intel driver in mesa?
[08:13] <an1> I want to install kubuntu 64 bit. But it says amd64 on the filename. Is it amd specific or will it work on intel as well?
[08:13] <maco> intel licenses the amd64 architecture from amd
[08:13] <maco> unless you have an itanium, it'll work
[08:14] <maco> (i know it sounds odd. amd made a backwards-compatible-with-32-bit arch, and intel didn't, so then amd's architecture became more popular, and eventually intel kinda gave up on itanium outside the server market)
[08:19] <an1> oh cool!
[10:48] <emniyet> #pardus
[10:48] <vorreiesserlo> good morning :)
[10:49] <emniyet> thank u
[10:49] <emniyet> good afternoon
[10:50] <emniyet> :))
[10:50] <MidnightGlow_> huhh
[10:51] <MidnightGlow_> nick Midnight_Glow
[10:51] <Midnight_Glow> clear
[10:57] <emniyet> ubuntu-tr
[10:57] <emniyet> #ubuntu-tr
[11:52] <speedvin> Hello
[11:52] <dmoyne> one of my partition on /dev/sda3 for "/usr" is almost full
[11:53] <dmoyne> I have created another one by doubling the size on /dev/sda4
[11:53] <dmoyne> then I have done dd if=/dev/sd3 of=/dev/sda4
[11:54] <dmoyne> at the end the new partition is also full !
[11:55] <dmoyne> what is wrong when you copy byte after byte with  dd
[11:56] <dmoyne> any idea ?
[11:57] <dmoyne> it looks like the information on occupation of partition has also been copied !!!
[12:16] <yofel> dmoyne: thanks to dd copying byte by byte, you also copy the filesystem information over to the new partition, so it still thinks it has the same size as the old one
[12:16] <phoenix_firebrd> bluedevil is not working . i am getting this error  "Can not get ibus-daemon's address. IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon"
[12:16] <yofel> 'sudo resize2fs /dev/sda4' should help there
[12:17] <yofel> dmoyne: assuming you use ext*
[12:17] <dmoyne> yofel thanks but why this situation ?
[12:17] <dmoyne> yofel I iuse for both partitions ext4
[12:18] <yofel> dmoyne: because with dd you copied over the filesystem meta information that contains the partition block count, and filesystem size too, thus overwriting the new filesystem on sda4
[12:18] <yofel> dd doesn't just copy the filesystem contents but also the filesystem itself
[12:19] <dmoyne> so by doing sudo resize2fs /dev/sda4 it will resize coorectly the target partition correctly ?
[12:20] <yofel> that should do it I think
[12:21] <dmoyne> I try and tell you afterwards
[12:22] <dmoyne> funny when I did it the systemm asked me to do first 'e2fsk -f /dev/sda4' which I did
[12:23] <dmoyne> then I did what you said and my occupation ratio on /dev/da4 partition is now correct
[12:23] <dmoyne> yofel thanks
[12:24] <yofel> np
[12:24] <dmoyne> ok by !
[12:28] <DiogenesW> servus
[12:30] <phoenix_firebrd> installed obexd sending files are possible now, but still browsing mobile doesnt work
[12:54] <emniyet> #pardus
[13:46]  * CRACK05 is away (Gone)
[14:14] <GWild> Hello.
[14:15] <eMyller> hello all
[14:15] <eMyller> is anyone there with an elantech touchpad?
[14:15] <GWild> Anyone here have an issue installing Kub 10.04 AMD64 where the installer sees a drive as a RAID mirror volume (but it isn't)?
[14:15] <eMyller> i can't make it visible in the input settings.
[14:23] <shr> hi
[14:23] <shr> can i have one question?
[14:23] <shr> well,
[14:24] <shr> i have just installed kubuntu in a powerbook g4 machine
[14:24] <shr> it works well, but without hardware acceleration
[14:25] <shr> someone knows -i have an ati 9600 mobile- if there are drivers avalaible?
[14:25] <GWild> so hardware video acceleration?
[14:25] <GWild> ati, hmm
[14:25] <GWild> check the ATI site
[14:26] <GWild> I hear they are not known for always being up to speed on Linux drivers tho
[14:29] <shr> well
[14:30] <shr> there is no ati official -an unofficcial too- driver for powerpc :(
[14:30] <shr> so, i know about a open source driver for earlier versions
[14:30] <shr> till radeon 9000
[14:30] <shr> but not for 9600
[14:31] <shr> so my old machine has 3d capabilities and my new one not
[14:31] <shr> its frustrating
[14:31] <shr> linux has made an old g4 machine rebird
[14:32] <shr> but without 3d the system sometimes is laggy
[14:32] <shr> and of course, i cannot watch videos nor playing games lol
[14:33] <Sting> Tach
[14:33] <shr> please, some help will be very apreciated. thanks
[14:35] <shr> so, no ideas, maybe porting de x86 source code for the 9600 to power architenture?
[14:35] <shr> any help?
[14:36] <GWild> really can't say, sorry
[14:36] <GWild> I run nVidia
[14:36] <GWild> got tired of Linus/ATI issues about 5 years and abandoned ATI under Linux.
[14:37] <GWild> so much has changed since then
[14:38] <shr> ok, thxs, i will try googling a bit more, maybe i will be lucky -sic-
[15:17] <fozo> Is Kubuntu like ubuntu and with only opensource legal in the US \drivers?
[15:18] <Rioting_Pacifist> fozo: NO kubuntu is kubuntu with a different interface
[15:18] <fozo> I know it uses KDE not Gnome I like it better
[15:19] <Rioting_Pacifist> fozo: all the drivers in ubuntu are legal, all the drivers that come by default are opensource
[15:19] <fozo> I was wondering if the philsophy is the same?  No illegally used items agianst softwear patents
[15:19] <fozo> sorry for spelling
[15:19] <Rioting_Pacifist> fozo: No drivers do that in ubuntu
[15:19] <fozo> what?
[15:19] <fozo> They are legal that is all I care about
[15:20] <fozo> Softwear patents
[15:20] <fozo> so is it the same?  Legal to download in the U.S
[15:21] <Rioting_Pacifist> fozo: gobuntu is completly foss, but nothing in ubuntu infringes software patents, some software you can install "may" do that (mplayer, ffmpge, etc) but this has never been shown
[15:21] <fozo> SO back to my first question Kubuntu is the same as ubuntu in this area completly legal
[15:22] <Rioting_Pacifist> kubuntu is the same as ubuntu with a different front end, the legallity of the backend (drivers) is the same, yes
[15:22] <fozo> tank u all I needed
[15:46] <m477> any1 knows adress chanel for scientific linux?
[16:01] <sysop1> hi
[16:01] <sysop1> what happened to the visualtionz in amarok?
[16:01] <sysop1> I have libvisual and libvisual-plugins installed.
[16:02] <sysop1> but I dont see any option in amarok for a visualtions. dont see a script for it either.
[16:02] <sysop1> what gives?
[16:02] <emniyet> #ubuntu-tr
[16:04] <freesoft> Hola Speak Spanish?
[16:04] <maco> #ubuntu-es
[16:04] <freesoft> thenks Bye :D
[16:13] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[16:31] <phoenix_firebrd> is the opensource nvidia drive active by default in a new installtion?
[16:46] <Roey> hey all
[16:48] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: hi
[16:48] <Roey> anyone else having an issue with the Keyboard Settings not being respected in the new PPA debs?  My "[x] Make Capslock an additional Control" setting, "Both shift together" to switch keyboard layouts setting, keyboard repeat rate and repeat delay are set, but I don't see this behavior....
[16:49] <Roey> *I do not see any apps respect this
[16:49] <Roey> hey phoenix_firebrd
[16:50] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: you have upgraded to kde 4.5.4 right?
[16:50] <Roey> yes, latest PPA debs
[16:51] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: what do you mean by "[x] " ?
[16:52] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  I am quoting the keboard system settings option
[16:52] <Roey> *chekbox
[16:52] <Roey> *checkbox
[16:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: oh
[16:56] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: what is your switching policy set to ?
[16:58] <Roey> just what I wrote above, two shifts together
[16:58] <Roey> and in System Settings it reflects that
[16:58] <Roey> I just do not see apps following that policy
[16:58] <Roey> and this changed when I upgraded last night
[16:58] <Roey> to 4.5.80
[16:59] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: is the switching policy set to global?
[16:59] <Roey> yes
[17:00] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  (but it's not just that... it's all the options for keyboard configuration like I listed above
[17:00] <Roey> My "[x] Make Capslock an additional Control" setting, "Both shift together" to switch keyboard layouts setting, keyboard repeat rate and repeat delay are set, but I don't see this behavior....
[17:00] <Roey> *but I do not see apps following this policy
[17:02] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: my kde vesion is 4.5.4, so i want be able to help you. there might be a bug
[17:03] <Roey> absolutely there's a bug :)
[17:03] <Roey> I mean, my version is also 4.5.4
[17:03] <phoenix_firebrd> also?
[17:03] <Roey> the 4.5.80 thing confused me too
[17:03] <Roey> yup
[17:03] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  I just saw some packages marked 4.5.80
[17:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: oh
[17:04] <maco> 4.5.80 = 4.6 alpha
[17:04] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: is 4.5.80 -->4.6 beta 1?
[17:04] <maco> s/alpha/some pre-release thingy/
[17:04] <phoenix_firebrd> maco: oh
[17:05] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: why did you use a alpha version?
[17:05] <Roey> that's what I assume
[17:05] <maco> i forget what 4.6 thing just came out
[17:05] <maco> i just know very high .x means its the pre-release for the next one
[17:05] <maco> hmm yeh must be beta 1
[17:06] <maco> because -devel /topic says "lets package beta 2"
[17:06] <phoenix_firebrd> maco:can Roey be directed to the ubuntu+1 channel?
[17:06] <maco> why should he?
[17:06] <maco> he would only belong there if running kubuntu 11.04
[17:06] <maco> if he's running 4.6 on 10.10 he belongs here
[17:06] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/wvfmFxL2   <-- those packages have been released as 4.5.80
[17:07] <Roey> woohoo!
[17:07] <phoenix_firebrd> maco: but kde 4.6 beta is part of 11.04 right, there he might get some help
[17:07] <Roey> so this is beta 2, got it.
[17:07] <maco> no beta 1
[17:07] <maco> beta 2's not packaged yet
[17:07] <maco> beta 1 just came out a couple days ago
[17:07] <Roey> got it.  Point is, it's an alpha of 4.6 and that's what I wondered about the .80 designation, that's all :)
[17:08] <Roey> er
[17:08] <Roey> beat of 4.6
[17:08] <Roey> *beta
[17:09] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: have you upgraded your regular os to the beta?
[17:10]  * maco sees little reason not to upgrade the regular os to alpha at all possible opportunities... best chance of finding bugs to fix! (cant fix em if ya cant find em)
[17:11] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  no
[17:11] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: good
[17:11] <Roey> ya know, funny thing is I bought Windows last month
[17:11] <Roey> intending to switch
[17:11] <maco> O_o
[17:11] <Roey> but I lasted all of...two days
[17:11] <Roey> the environment feels so stifling
[17:12] <Roey> I wanted to use an OS that works
[17:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: do you play games?
[17:12] <Roey> I wanted to
[17:12] <Roey> Half-Life 2, for example
[17:12] <Roey> games and Netflix streaming.
[17:12] <Roey> and to be able to put a CD in and have a program pop up and play the darned thing.
[17:12] <Roey> which did /not/ work under KDE.
[17:12] <Roey> (Kubuntu, rather)
[17:13] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: tried xbmc?
[17:13] <Roey> that's still windows-based, right?
[17:13] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  yeah I play that at friends' places
[17:18] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  But I really do not like Windows.  Don't get me wrong, I am a Linux user.
[17:18] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  I am wondering if I can return this Windows for a refund
[17:18] <Roey> if I should, even
[17:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: counter strike will be available for linux shortly
[17:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: more game developers are starting to support linux
[17:19] <Roey> sigh
[17:19] <Roey> I don't think so
[17:20] <Roey> I do not agree
[17:20] <Roey> I think that it does not matter since Microsoft keeps inventing new strategies to lock customers and developers into Microsoft.
[17:20] <Roey> One example is Silverlight
[17:20] <Roey> which Netflix Streaming uses
[17:20] <maco> silverlight / moonlight works fine
[17:21] <Roey> naw.  I think Desktop Linux will remain niche in the US.
[17:21] <Roey> unfortunately.
[17:21] <maco> the actual problem with netflix is not moonlight being bad, it's encryption
[17:21] <maco> there's DRM
[17:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: there will always be an alternative to microsoft's
[17:21] <Roey> maco:  and that's why silverlight works
[17:21] <Roey> and the Linux ecosphere fails.
[17:21] <Roey> (not that I'm blaming Linux here... it's squarely Microsoft's fault)
[17:21] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  not for netflix streaming
[17:22] <Roey> until another firm like Redbox comes up with an alternate provider that uses an open format
[17:22] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: nokia stopped  providing drm protected music
[17:23] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: soon it will
[17:23] <phoenix_firebrd> Roey: change
[17:23] <Roey> phoenix_firebrd:  video is the next big thing to conquer then
[17:23] <Roey> also, why am I limited to .mp3?
[17:23] <dthacker> as this discussion on DRM is not really a support topic,  perhaps it could be moved to kubunu-offtopic?
[17:23] <Roey> and not the CD-quality track
[17:23] <Roey> sure
[17:23] <Roey> but I have other things to get to
[17:26] <Goliath> hey,  does camera and laptop-tools work automatically in kubuntu?
[17:26] <Goliath> or i have to adjust it
[17:26] <sysop1> hey what happeend to the voice control that was bulit into kde 3.5?
[17:26] <sysop1> is there something similar in kde4?
[17:27] <dthacker> sysop1:  I've been away from KDE3 for awhile, could you refresh my memory on what the voice control did?
[17:27] <phoenix_firebrd> sysop1: kmouth
[17:27]  * dthacker reads
[17:39] <arturo> Hi guys, I come from another distro, but I am curious about what gtk-engine kubuntu uses to display GTK+ applications under KDE?
[17:39] <arturo> As it looks damn good
[17:46] <arturo> exit
[17:46] <dthacker> Isn't there a Soundconverter for KDE4?
[17:46] <dthacker> My package search foo has failed me
[17:52] <Snowhog> dthacker: pacpl  - Perl Audio Converter is a tool for converting multiple audio types from one format to another using various external encoders/decoders.
[17:52] <dthacker> Snowhog: thanks, will take a look
[17:52] <crissi> hello
[17:53] <crissi> i use kubuntu 10.10 and kde 4.5.4. I have problems that some websites at konqueror cause high cpu load during scrolling. for example this page: http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man5/dhcpd.conf.5.php
[17:53] <crissi> can someone confirm it?
[17:55] <olskolirc> this key gives my repository errors sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 2B8638D0 when trying to get kde 3.x on my karmic from this site http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html
[17:55] <an1> I am trying to install kubuntu 64 bit on dell xps - i5 with 4 GB RAM and nvidia. I get errors saying process 417: glib-warning : getpwid_R(): failed due to unknown user id (0)
[17:55] <an1> what do i do?
[18:02] <dthacker> an1: just a sec
[18:03] <dthacker> an1:  potential solution down in the comments on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/532984
[18:12] <olskolirc> how do i remove a pgp key please?
[18:16] <dthacker> olskolirc:  for ssh or for something else?
[18:17] <olskolirc> i just installed kde 3.x on karmic and the pgp key doesn't work when i update how do i remove this key please where is it?
[18:18] <olskolirc> dthacker,
[18:20] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, sudo remove-apt-repository ppa:nameofppa-ppa/name
[18:20] <olskolirc> the key BluesKaj is somewhere i took the repository out by hand
[18:21] <drcode> I have nvidia gt430 , I have installed ubuntu 10.10, how can I setup this card?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, I assume you want to remove the repos too
[18:22] <olskolirc> no the repo is correct, (my bad) just that long key that doesn't exist it says
[18:22] <BluesKaj> drcode, look in the kmenu/applications /system/additional drivers
[18:23] <olskolirc> i already installed the kde 3 x BluesKaj but i can't update correctly b/c of this W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 079A381C44869960
[18:23] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, was there a website that gave you the key
[18:24] <olskolirc> yes BluesKaj http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html that site
[18:25] <olskolirc> what file is that key in BluesKaj so that i can just delete it please
[18:27] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, try adding the key again , then sudo apt-get update
[18:27] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 2B8638D0
[18:30] <olskolirc> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 079A381C44869960 BluesKaj
[18:32] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, maybe you should ask in #kde , they might know something about  the problem
[18:33] <Snowhog> olskolirc: Issue the command sudo gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 079A381C4486996
[18:33] <Snowhog> olskolirc: Issue the command sudo gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 079A381C44869960
[18:34] <nbnds> does anyone know examples of enterprise desktop use of kubuntu?
[18:43] <synet92> Всем привет
[18:45] <Snowhog> !ru
[18:45]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[18:46] <m477_> what does 'which' commend?
[18:46] <Snowhog> m477_: Open a console and type: man which to find out.
[18:47] <BluesKaj> nbnds, uhm , pls define enterprise desktop
[18:48] <BluesKaj> which gives the path to the application . m477_
[18:49] <m477_> thix BluesKaj Snowhog
[18:54] <sima> Привет всем
[18:55] <sima> ping
[18:55] <sima> Есть люди тут?
[18:55] <maco> !ru
[18:55] <Peace-> !ru | sima
[18:56] <sima> sank
[18:56] <sima> I quit. :)
[18:57] <sima[bb> Ы
[19:00] <nbnds> BluesKaj, Enterpise means here stability of the standart software stack like Kmail, Kofice, Kopete, Konqueror, no crashes and users do no changes to the software.
[19:30] <BluesKaj> nbnds, oh ... I thought Enterprise meant a kubuntu in a "business environment" :)
[19:38] <dthacker> How do I suppress part join messages in Quassel?
[19:42] <harleen> hi
[20:04] <an1> dthacker: installation works like a charm when you remove quiet splash! Thanks a lot!
[20:04] <an1> harleen: hi
[20:06] <dthacker> an1: you're welcome!
[20:08] <an1> but it doesnt login via x! im yet to try console login. after entering username and password there is a black screen. thats it
[20:10] <wilhart> ok i have a question
[20:11] <wilhart> is there any possibility in kubuntu could damage my grapic card?
[20:11] <dthacker> wilhart:  I can't think of any way Kubuntu could do that
[20:12] <wilhart> dthacker: okok, even tho i fiddle with nvidia settings?
[20:13] <wilhart> like v-sync to monitor etc?
[20:13] <wilhart> dthacker: my card got damaged dunno why probably was so old.. 3y old
[20:13] <wilhart> dthacker: now i have a better card
[20:13] <wilhart> dthacker: btw, should i use kde effects or compiz?
[20:14] <wilhart> dthacker: disable effects? and enable compiz?
[20:15] <dthacker> wilhart: couldn't say.  I just run generic setup with 2 monitors
[20:15] <sh1ft3d> is there a way you can start ubuntu in the terminal other than having the x server boot up?
[20:16] <wilhart> dthacker: nvidia-settigns - multiple monitors?
[20:16] <wilhart> dthacker: and then save settings
[20:16] <wilhart> dthacker: what card do you have?
[20:16] <an1> dthacker: any solutions to my second problem? i tried removing quiet splash, but i dont think it removes. how do i save and quit in the grub edit command screen?
[20:18] <dthacker> wilhart:  I'm not running propietary drivers
[20:18] <wilhart> ok well i'm off to ubu
[20:18] <sh1ft3d> dthacker: you trying to install updated nvidia drivers?
[20:20] <RightLegRed> I need some help with installation, could someone assist me with the manual partitioning, I can't understand it and need help, I fear I might erase my windows partition or accidentally remove something I shouldn't
[20:21] <sh1ft3d> Do you already have the drive partitioned?
[20:22] <RightLegRed> I have a partitioned drive already, I did it while on my windows
[20:23] <marxjohnson> I'm trying to record a screencast on Maverick with XVidCap. I've got my microphone working and showing the input volume on the PulseAudio volume monitor, but I don't know which device to select in xvidcap to record from it. The default is /dev/dsp, which records nothing
[20:23] <marxjohnson> anyone got any pointers?
[20:24] <wilhart> where do i setup line-in, and mic-in
[20:24] <wilhart> i hard distortion
[20:24] <wilhart> linein
[20:25] <wilhart> it's probably +decibel
[20:26] <wilhart> ok alsamixer <tab> did the trick
[20:31] <wilhart> what's nicer kde effects or compiz?
[20:39] <glen_> katy perry
[20:40] <glen_> help?
[20:43] <dthacker> !question
[20:44] <glen_> Is this just a chat room or torrent site, can someone help?
[20:45] <dthacker> glen_: this is the kubuntu help channel.  Ask your question and if someone knows the answer, they will respond
[20:49] <JUaskajuaska> Hello. Where is the download files by Ktorrent?
[20:50] <anton__> привет всем
[20:53] <anton__> чо нет никого?
[20:54] <maco> !ru
[20:54] <kaddi> hi, after a powerloss my kubuntu no longer boots. it shows "mount: ,mounting  /dev/disk/by-uuid/lonng uuid on /root failed: invalid argument. There are a couple of follow up errors mounting folders in root and then it says target filesyste,m doesn't have requested /sbin/init. No init found. Try bypassing init=bootarg. and it opens a command line called busybox v1.15.3
[20:55] <kaddi> i believe the system is a corrupt file system and it might be fixable with a fsck, however the busybox does not seem to know that argument. How else can I do this
[21:04] <dthacker> kaddi: you could boot from repair CD or Ubuntu Server and run fsck that way
[21:05] <kaddi> dthacker:  sadly my cd drive is broken and right now i have no big enough flash drive here to create a bootable one. I can get one tomorrow, but i'd rather fix it today
[21:06] <kaddi> dthacker: is there a way in recovery mode to get a normal shell from which i can run fsck
[21:12] <dthacker> kaddi:  If you can't mount root, you're going to have to boot from an external device.
[21:12] <kaddi> dthacker there's no way to run a fsck on it from recovery mode or some such?
[21:14] <alesan> hi
[21:14] <alesan> I think the latest update changed the KDE font to "Ubuntu"
[21:14] <alesan> how bad is that? I really want to go back to the usual one...
[21:14] <maco> that change happened 10.10
[21:15] <maco> not in a post-release update though...
[21:15] <alesan> well but yesterday I did not have this font
[21:15] <alesan> anyway
[21:15] <alesan> how can I set a normal one?
[21:15] <maco> did you upgrade from10.04 to 10.10?
[21:15] <maco> as always, system settings
[21:15] <alesan> yes but several weeks ago
[21:15] <maco> i think font settings are in the application settings section
[21:16] <alesan> maco, ok but what was the default?
[21:16] <maco> then i suspect you only *noticed* yesterday
[21:16] <maco> probably Deja Vu Sans
[21:16] <alesan> no yesterday it was good, believe me
[21:16] <dthacker> kaddi:  I'm not familiar with this recovery mode you speak of.    How are you accessing it?
[21:16] <alesan> this morning I start it and BOOM the bad surprise
[21:16] <maco> did you not reboot til now?
[21:16] <alesan> maco, thanks I will try immediately!
[21:16] <alesan> I did a reboot yesterday
[21:17] <alesan> actually, a regular shutdown
[21:17] <alesan> normally I always "suspend" or "hibernate"
[21:17] <maco> but i mean between your upgrade and yesterday...did you not log out / shutdown / reboot at all?
[21:17] <maco> because it shouldve gone into effect the first time you logged in after the upgrade
[21:17] <alesan> maco, who knows...
[21:18] <kaddi> dthacker: when you install standard ubuntu it will always install too options per kernel: normal kernel and kernel (recoverymode). From what I can tell, recovery mode shows you a boot log and won't start x, but give you a terminal if it loads successfully
[21:18] <alesan> ok I put "Sans Serif" and it seems to be the correct one
[21:22] <dthacker> kaddi:  If you get a command line booting into the recovery mode, then try to run /sbin/fsck  -t [fslist]
[21:24] <kaddi> dthacker: i get the same as i get when trying to boot normally. for what it's worth when i try to mount the partition to /test I get this error ext4-fs (sda5): error loading journal. Will try your command next, but i don't believe it knows fsck
[21:25] <kaddi> dthacker: there's mount.ntfs. mount.fuse, wait-for-root. udevadm, pkill, dumpe2fs. udevd,modprobe. rmmod, hwclock, blkid and dmsetup in /sbin
[21:30] <dthacker> kaddi: /sbin is where fsck lives, so you'll have to boot from liveCD or other device to get it.
[21:33] <kaddi> >.< thanks anyways dthacker
[21:55] <drcode> hi all
[21:55] <drcode> I try to switch between hebrew and en
[21:55] <drcode> in ubuntu 10.10
[21:55] <drcode> it dosn't let me add hebrew keyboard layout , any idea?
[22:09] <BluesKaj> drcode, ask in #ubuntu
[22:16] <drcode> BluesKaj: I can't find reginol and settings in kubuntu 10.10
[22:18] <dthacker> drcode: System Settings--> Locale   perhaps?
[22:19] <drcode> its only language
[22:19] <drcode> of system
[22:21] <BluesKaj> drcode, /sysyem settings /input devices/keyboard/layouts tab/configure layouts/add layout
[22:21] <BluesKaj> drcode, then you'll see a drop down list of choices
[22:23] <drcode> BluesKaj: thanx
[22:23] <drcode> I have found it now
[22:23] <drcode> thanx alot
[22:24] <BluesKaj> np drcode :)
[22:27] <drazzen_> salve a tutti
[22:28] <drazzen_> salve a tutti
[22:28] <drazzen_> !list
[22:55] <amichair_> trying to suspend to disk on a netbook with wubi gives error "swap header not found" and doesn't work (it stays on, and pressing any key goes back to the desktop). How does one make hibernation work?
[23:03] <xoma> who tried to run ragnarok online under wine?
[23:18] <vl_> hello all
[23:19] <vl_> here is a russian ?


[00:48] <grunt_> is this channel still active
[00:54] <arraybolt3> yep
[00:54] <arraybolt3> grunt_: ^
[00:55] <grunt_> aight was just curious
[01:08] <fcekalovic_> anyone knows the fix for the GUI crashing after the screen turning off?
[01:09] <fcekalovic_> installed the LTS kubuntu back in september last year
[01:53] <retep> Is the crash regularly related to screen being turned off, or is that just a single occurrence?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:44] <skramer> Hi
[12:51] <skramer> Yesterday I had some strange issue. Clicking anywhere was impossible with both, mouse and touchpad while moving the cursor worked jsut fine. Unplugging the mouse made clicks with touchpad possible again & plugin the mouse stopped it again. Even reboot did not help. Today after standby for few hours everythin works again fine as expected. Any idea what might have caused that issue? Thanks.
 K37H
 X37H
[23:37] <frakbox> On kubuntu 22.04, Discover keeps crashing when I click on the Applications section. It has done this on two of my computers. I reinstalled Kubuntu and it solved it on the desktop, but my laptop has the same problem after everything is reinstalled and back up to date. Is this a known issue?
[23:53] <frakbox> Welp. I tried clicking the check box to deactivate the Flathub - dl.flathub.org in discover, it seems to work just fine when I make the box uncheck, but when I recheck the box, it crashes. This is frustrating.
[23:54] <frakbox> It crashes when I click on applications, that is.
[23:57] <tomreyn> frakbox: if it's a known bug then it'll be listed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[23:58] <frakbox> Wonderful, thank you
[23:58] <tomreyn> you're welcome


[07:01] <deffrag> Hello! Is <sudo cat /dev/sda5 | md5sum> the right way to get md5sum for sda5 partition? Or what exactly will the command do?
[13:46] <ryant5000> how would I go about building a 3.4 kernel on/for Amazon EC2? i'm on Precise, and I grabbed a clone of the git repo, but i don't see how to build the "virtual" flavour
[15:36] <bjf> ryant5000, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel , down in the "Building the Kernel" section substitute "binary-virtual" for "binary-generic"
[15:37] <bjf> ryant5000, i just kicked one off myself, if that doesn't work, i'll know in a little bit
[15:37] <ryant5000> bjf: hm, i tried that, but it said it couldn't find binary-virtual
[15:37] <ryant5000> bjf: where did you get your sources?
[15:38] <ryant5000> bjf: i was building from a tag in git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-precise.git
[15:39] <ryant5000> bjf: i got the impression that somehow the sources i had didn't include a virtual flavour
[15:43] <bjf> ryant5000, i did: fakeroot debian/rules clean; fakeroot debian/rules binary-virtual
[15:44] <bjf> ryant5000: and it's building as we speak
[15:44] <ryant5000> hm, ok; and was your source from that same git repo?
[15:45] <bjf> ryant5000: i am building precise which was cloned from the ubuntu precise repo
[15:45] <ryant5000> bjf: ok, i guess maybe it was a mistake to check out a tag; i'll give it a try from master
[15:46] <bjf> ryant5000: which tag did you use ?
[15:46] <ryant5000> bjf: i don't recall exactly, but i think it was the latest tag with a 3.4 version number
[15:47] <bjf> ryant5000: that should work
[15:47] <bjf> ryant5000: um, actually ... 3.4? precise is based on 3.2
[15:48] <ryant5000> bjf: right :) i was hoping to upgrade
[15:48] <ryant5000> bjf: i'd like to use a couple of features from the new kernel
[15:49] <bjf> ryant5000: so you have a different option, use the "lts backport" kernel which is a quantal kernel built to run on precise userspace
[15:49] <ryant5000> bjf: ah, ok; i think i recall seeing that branch
[15:49] <bjf> ryant5000: it's not really a "backport" just what we call it
[15:49] <ryant5000> bjf: right; makes sense
[15:49] <bjf> ryant5000: there's one all built
[15:50] <bjf> ryant5000: it is built everytime the regular quantal kernel is built
[15:50] <ryant5000> bjf: oh, can i just grab the deb? i'm not trying to do anything fancy, just a stock 3.4 or later kernel
[15:50] <ryant5000> (i did try searching for it, but I wasn't able to find it)
[15:50] <bjf> ryant5000: yes, or it's in a ppa ... one sec
[15:52] <bjf> ryant5000: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[15:53] <bjf> ryant5000: there are other packages there but you want "linux-lts-quantal"
[15:53] <ryant5000> ok, cool
[15:53] <ryant5000> bjf: thanks; i'll give that a shot
[15:54] <bjf> ryant5000: easier than building your own (though that isn't too bad)
[15:55] <ryant5000> bjf: yeah, definitely; the build process is way easier than the last time i tried (years ago)
[16:30] <ryant5000> bjf: so, that backports ppa doesn't seem to have the -virtual packages either
[16:30] <ryant5000> bjf: if i'm going to build myself, should i be building out of the precise or quantal repositories?
[17:47] <bjf> ryant5000: in quantal the virtual flavour was eliminated
[17:47] <ryant5000> bjf: hm; so i guess i'll have to tell pv-grub to take the generic flavour
[17:48] <ryant5000> bjf: it says something about ignoring the generic kernel when it updates grub
[17:48] <ryant5000> maybe i'll just run on the quantal daily for a while
[18:55] <dileks> hi
[18:55] <dileks> I used a quantal kernel-config as base for my linux-next kernel
[18:56] <dileks> diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1091987/
[18:56] <dileks> now there are new variables CONFIG_MEDIA_*_SUPPORT to sort camera|tv|radio|rc
[18:57] <dileks> what I did was a 'yes "" | make oldconfig'
[18:58] <dileks> as CONFIG_MEDIA_*_SUPPORT=n turned off all dvb|radio|rc|camera modules/built-in stuff
[18:59] <dileks> any other magic make-option where I can keep old media-configs?
[19:33] <deffrag_> Hello! I've a question related to ARM. As mentioned in line comment 23-28 here - http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/arch/arm/kernel/kprobes-common.c - R15 gives PC+8 in the first cycle of an instruction then PC
[19:49] <deffrag_> Oops! R15 gives PC+8 in the first cycle of an instruction then PC+12 in subsequent cycles. What is the reason for that?