[07:49] <fdoving> jari: then they are in /var/log/ divided into different files for different happenings. it's all controlled by either individual apps or /etc/syslog.conf
[07:49] <JuJuBee> Do you mean the ones from ATI?
[07:49] <drsatyri> yeah
[07:50] <JuJuBee> Yes, but not sure if things are messed up enough so even they did not work.
[07:50] <JuJuBee> I had this working fine under edgy...
[07:50] <drsatyri> same xorg conf?
[07:50] <JuJuBee> No, have done fresh install of feisty since then...
[07:51] <drsatyri> does x start?
[07:51] <JuJuBee> Unfortunately I did not save my xorg.conf file.  I have learned my lesson.
[07:51] <JuJuBee> Yes
[07:51] <drsatyri> so its the resolution/color depth thats distorted
[07:51] <drsatyri> ?
[07:51] <JuJuBee> I am set to 1280x800 @ 60Hz
[07:51] <jari> fdoving: thank you
[07:52] <drsatyri> lcd display? if so whats the native resolution
[07:52] <JuJuBee> Nothing distorted on laptop, just that the left 2inches of my desktop not coming through projector...
[07:52] <JuJuBee> Top and bottom 1/4 inch also
[07:52] <JuJuBee> I have a widescreen laptop...
[07:53] <drsatyri> so you have a projector hooked up
[07:53] <drsatyri> im googling as you speak :)
[07:53] <drsatyri> what kind of projector is it?
[07:53] <JuJuBee> Yes
[07:53] <drsatyri> i probably cant help you but im gonna try
[07:53] <JuJuBee> Mitsubishi
[07:54] <JuJuBee> My current working xorg.conf is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572434
[07:55] <JuJuBee> Last year I was able to clone my desktop.  I eventually want to span so I can do work on my laptop without them seeing what I am doing.
[07:56] <drsatyri> anyone know if a modeline would be appropriate for this situation?
[07:58] <drsatyri> from a thread w/ a mitsubishi projector:
[07:58] <drsatyri> Fortunately, Gusty is going to make xorg configuring MUCH easie
[07:58] <drsatyri> well thats helpful :P
[07:59] <drsatyri> sounds like this guy is trying to do something similar: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-541833.html\
[08:00] <JuJuBee> Using Intel video chipset though...
[08:00] <drsatyri> yeah i know :/
[08:01] <drsatyri> even the laptop resolution is the same :P
[08:04] <drsatyri> i know its asinine but do you know the model of the projector?
[08:05] <drsatyri> i actually think a modeline will work, we just have to figure out what modeline we'd use
[08:05] <drsatyri> sounds like a vsync problem
[08:05] <JuJuBee> Yea, XD205R
[08:06] <JuJuBee> Weird that I did not need to do that with Edgy...
[08:06] <drsatyri> well im definitely not an xorg expert
[08:06] <JuJuBee> Any thoughts as to why I only have 60Hz Refresh now?  I used to have more (up to 85Hz)
[08:07] <drsatyri> lemme look at that xorg conf again just a sec
[08:08] <JuJuBee> k
[08:08] <loic> salut
[08:09] <loic> hey
[08:09] <bazhang> hi loic
[08:10] <loic> how are u ?
[08:10] <bazhang> do you have a question loic?
[08:10] <loic> yeah, i'm actually on internet, but when i run Konqueror, he tell me : An error occurred while loading http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org:
[08:11] <bazhang> loic: it loads fine for me; can you access other sites?
[08:11] <loic> no...
[08:11] <JuJuBee> Sounds like dns
[08:12] <loic> oh
[08:12] <drsatyri> opendns is nice
[08:12] <loic> how to check it ?
[08:12] <drsatyri> lemme get an ip, try pinging it
[08:13] <drsatyri> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:13] <drsatyri> thatll tell if its dns or not
[08:13] <loic> what shall i do ?
[08:13] <drsatyri> try pinging the above ip address to see if you can connect w/out dns
[08:13] <loic> ok
[08:13] <JuJuBee> Open a terminal/konsole and type ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:14] <loic> i'm doing
[08:14] <loic> it's ok... :
[08:14] <loic> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:14] <loic> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=50.3 ms
[08:14] <loic> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=97.9 ms
[08:14] <loic> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=68.9 ms
[08:14] <loic> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=80.3 ms
[08:14] <drsatyri> so yeah dns
[08:14] <loic> so ?
[08:14] <drsatyri> in konsole type "sudo kate /etc/resolv.conf"
[08:15] <drsatyri> i think its kate i almost said gedit :p
[08:15] <loic> i'm on KDE
[08:15] <bazhang> it's kate :]
[08:15] <loic> ok ;)
[08:16] <loic> ok it's open, and now ?
[08:16] <drsatyri> sry laptop is dying just a sec
[08:16] <drsatyri> ok now you should see like "nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"
[08:16] <loic> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:16] <loic> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:16] <drsatyri> change the xxx... to "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[08:16] <drsatyri> thats the address for the opendns name server
[08:16] <drsatyri> (s)
[08:17] <drsatyri> save the file, close kate, and open a terminal
[08:17] <drsatyri> or yknow use the one you already opened
[08:17] <loic> hum i don't undersand... Do I add something ?
[08:18] <Anto__> Heya can somone help me install my nvidia drivers, and change my keyboard settings back to swedish__
[08:18] <drsatyri> well you can either add a another nameserver
[08:18] <drsatyri> (ie <IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:18] <drsatyri> or you can replace your existing gateway nameserver (<IP_ADDRESS>) with it
[08:18] <loic> ok
[08:18] <loic> i will try
[08:19] <drsatyri> then save the resolv.conf, and close kate
[08:20] <loic> ok, it is right ?
[08:20] <loic> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:20] <loic> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:20] <drsatyri> yeah thats fine
[08:20] <loic> ok
[08:20] <loic> now, i'm on a new terminal
[08:20] <drsatyri> hm now lemme see
[08:20] <drsatyri> i wanna make sure i give you the right advice :)
[08:21] <loic> And now ? what must i do ?
[08:21] <drsatyri> try going to the site again
[08:21] <drsatyri> you might have to restart the networking services
[08:21] <loic> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[08:21] <loic> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[08:21] <loic> :-/
[08:21] <loic> hum
[08:21] <drsatyri> lemme make sure thats the right dns
[08:21] <drsatyri> er address
[08:21] <loic> whait
[08:22] <loic> i haven't restart the networking services
[08:22] <loic> how to do it ?
[08:22] <drsatyri> well you would normally do so by typing "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[08:22] <drsatyri> into a terminal
[08:23] <TimS> !pidgin
[08:23] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[08:23] <TimS> !pidgin | TimS
[08:23] <drsatyri> thats the right opendns address, it should work
[08:24] <loic> it's ok
[08:24] <loic> do you want see the answer of the konsole ?
[08:24] <drsatyri> pl
[08:24] <drsatyri> plz
[08:24] <loic> it's ok, do you want see the answer of the konsole ?
[08:24] <acomaco> anyone know any good games that don't take alot of computer power with Wine? or even linux? =)
[08:25] <drsatyri> absolutely
[08:25] <loic> it's so long.... ^
[08:25] <drsatyri> ehm
[08:25] <loic> Password:
[08:25] <loic>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          RTNETLINK answers: No such process
[08:25] <loic> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 5909
[08:25] <loic> killed old client process, removed PID file
[08:25] <loic> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[08:25] <drsatyri> maybe not then; but you still arent able to connect to google.com?
[08:25] <bazhang> pastebin?
[08:25] <Zombine>  Guild Wars works nicely
[08:25] <drsatyri> :(
[08:25] <drsatyri> i failed him\
[08:25] <drsatyri> lol
[08:25] <drsatyri> sry about that
[08:26] <drsatyri> ok loic; you still cant find google.com in your browser?
[08:27] <carwash^> how can i change what soundcard alsa outputs audio to by default?
[08:29] <drsatyri> from what im seeing kmix would be a good place to start
[08:30] <BluesKaj> hmmm is there a cli app that records wav files to cd other than "cdrecord" ?... it's old and doesn't regognize my cd drive
[08:31] <carwash^> I googled some more, the answer was setting up .asoundrc correctly
[08:31] <drsatyri> ah
[08:32] <BluesKaj> carwash^, sudo asoundconf list
[08:32] <BluesKaj> carwash^, then : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[08:33] <anto_> Can somone help me install my nvidia drivers please
[08:33] <anto_> !nvidia
[08:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:33] <carwash^> BluesKaj: thanks :)
[08:34] <BluesKaj> carwash^, thank me if it works for you :)
[08:34] <ubuntu> gia54
[08:35] <loic> re
[08:35] <loic> i was eating ;)
[08:35] <drsatyri> lol sry
[08:35] <drsatyri> ok so but you still cant connect to the googles
[08:35] <loic> no
[08:35] <loic> but
[08:35] <loic> i see the favicon googlz
[08:35] <loic> google
[08:36] <loic> you know ?
[08:36] <loic> must i download firefox ?
[08:36] <drsatyri> nope
[08:37] <drsatyri> yeah i know what you mean
[08:37] <loic> yes ?
[08:37] <drsatyri> try pinging google.com
[08:37] <loic> oic@loic-desktop:~$ ping google.com
[08:37] <loic> PING google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[08:37] <loic> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=161 ms
[08:37] <loic> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=138 ms
[08:38] <drsatyri> so its not dns
[08:38] <loic> :/
[08:38] <drsatyri> but when you open a browser it doesnt show
[08:38] <loic> Hey !!!!!
[08:38] <anto_> Can somone help me install my nvidia drivers ??
[08:38] <loic> It's OK !!!!
[08:38] <drsatyri> awesome
[08:38] <loic> Firefox work !
[08:38] <drsatyri> haha thats cool
[08:38] <drsatyri> what were you browsing with before?
[08:38] <loic> I don't know why konqueror doesn't fuction...
[08:38] <drsatyri> oh
[08:38] <drsatyri> well theres that
[08:38] <drsatyri> yeah thats weird
[08:39] <loic> what ?
[08:39] <roleroz> can i make kubuntu to show on a dual monitor layout desktop 1 on screen 1 and desktop 2 on screen 2
[08:39] <drsatyri> that konqueror doesnt work but firefox does
[08:39] <roleroz> ?
[08:39] <loic> yeah
[08:39] <Squidy> loic: did you see if a proxy is configured in konqueror?
[08:39] <loic> Ah ah i'm so happy, it's my first time on Linux :)
[08:39] <Dr_willis> desktop 1 and 2? hmm.. wellwith my 2 monitors - i have one 'wide' desktop - thats spaning both monitors.
[08:39] <loic> i can see in the configuration :
[08:40] <loic> connec to the internet directly
[08:40] <loic> connect*
[08:40] <roleroz> Dr_willis: did that, but want to run programs on fullscreen mode on one of the monitors, and to have two diferent resolution monitors
[08:40] <Squidy> yeah.. it's weird..
[08:41] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I can set apps to be fullscreen. and they fullscreen to whatever monitor they are on.
[08:41] <Dr_willis> and i have different res's on both my lcd's
[08:41] <Dr_willis> and the tv. :)
[08:41] <Dr_willis> of course when switching desktops - that can confuse things a bit.
[08:41] <loic> Thank you very much drsatyri
[08:42] <drsatyri> yeah anytime :)
[08:42] <drsatyri> still confuddling though
[08:42] <roleroz> Dr_willis: that sounds good, is there any howto do this?
[08:42] <Dr_willis> roleroz,  i never needed a howto. it just did it :)
[08:42] <Dr_willis> Using the nvidia drivers/card/ and twinview
[08:43] <drsatyri> nvidia is pretty cool with open source even if theyll never BE open source :P
[08:43] <Dr_willis> I keep MythTV fullscreened on  monitor #2 (the tv) and a my normal desktop on #1
[08:43] <Dr_willis> a few apps are brain dead and dont do it properly.
[08:43] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: sounds like a nice setup
[08:43] <roleroz> Dr_willis: will check that, thanks
[08:44] <drsatyri> mythtv thats the one that works with xbmc isnt it
[08:44] <Dr_willis> !mythtv
[08:44] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[08:44] <Dr_willis> no idea what xbmc is :)
[08:44] <drsatyri> oh sry xbox media center
[08:44] <drsatyri> homebrew original xbox software
[08:44] <Dr_willis> never t5ried it. I got 2 xbox's  - but they are in the closet. :0
[08:44] <Dr_willis> I got spare pc's for my MythTV clients.
[08:45] <drsatyri> aw thats a shame you can do it with a thumbdrive and a copy of splinter cell :P
[08:45] <drsatyri> you could even put ubuntu on them :)
[08:45] <Squidy> Dr_willis: i've got that configurations too... i use a lcd (1440x900) on screen #1 and TV (800x600) on screen #2.. my girlfriend watches a filme on the tv while i work in computer at the same time.. awesome.. :D
[08:45] <Dr_willis> why bother. :) i got spare pc's that i can do that with.
[08:45] <drsatyri> well those xboxs are practically spare pcs
[08:45] <drsatyri> :P
[08:45] <Dr_willis> geexbox + pc = upnp client.
[08:45] <Dr_willis> broken laptop = portable media player
[08:45] <drsatyri> lol yep
[08:46] <Dr_willis> I set up GeeXbox first on my laptop. theninstalled ubuntu, so i got geexbox and ubuntu both on it. I can fast-boot to geexbox to watch videos.
[08:46] <Dr_willis> or boot to ubuntu to do work
[08:46] <drsatyri> do you capture mpeg on any of your systems?
[08:47] <Dr_willis> the mythtv box has a pvr150 hauppage
[08:47] <drsatyri> :o
[08:48] <Dr_willis> not sure what its capturing. :)
[08:48] <drsatyri> those are nice though
[08:48] <roleroz> Dr_willis: is there anything like twinview for ATI cards?
[08:48] <Dr_willis> i gotta watch the shows im recording.
[08:48] <drsatyri> thats what they suggest on the mythtv site i believe
[08:48] <Dr_willis> roleroz,  ati has their own 'thang' i forget what its called.
[08:48] <Yammeh> Can you not type simple arithmetic into the konsole and get answers?
[08:48] <Dr_willis> Yammeh,  huh? try alt-space :) katapult has that feature
[08:49] <Dr_willis> theres command line calculators also.
[08:49] <Dr_willis> !info bc
[08:49] <ubotu> bc: The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator language. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-20ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 65 kB, installed size 188 kB
[08:49] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis :D
[08:49] <drsatyri> thats crazy i never used katapult
[08:50] <Minataku> Can't wait to add some GOOD 68k machines to my collection (Amigas instead of Macs) XD
[08:50] <Minataku> I just very recently added PPC, PA-RISC and Alpha :D
[08:50] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh.. well as of Today.. daimlerchrysler is on Strike.
[08:51] <Dr_willis> i got 2 packed and almost ready to ship. gotta fit in some more bits.
[08:51] <drsatyri> :o
[08:51] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  you want referance books also?
[08:51] <Minataku> Nah, too heavy
[08:51] <Minataku> Plus all that is on the net anyway
[08:51] <xevious> so I idle in here overnight and someone's trying to hack me.
[08:51] <drsatyri> :(
[08:52] <drsatyri> he did it.
[08:52] <xevious> <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:52] <drsatyri> whatd they try to do?
[08:52] <xevious> log in by ssh
[08:53] <drsatyri> and how (un)successful were they
[08:53] <Casey> hide your ip then
[08:53] <xevious> using users: staff, sales, recruit, alias, unknown
[08:53] <xevious> Casey: how?
[08:53] <Minataku> Haha
[08:53] <xevious> also admin
[08:53] <Dr_willis> there are tools that can detect such attempts and block based on ip automaticially
[08:53] <Casey> #freenode ask a staff member for a cloak
[08:54] <drsatyri> :o
[08:54] <Casey> Casey is i=Casey@unaffiliated/casey * Casey
[08:54] <Minataku> "staff" is a Unix _group_
[08:54] <xevious> Casey: thanks
[08:54] <Minataku> It's the Unix equivalent of Linux's "users"
[08:55] <Dr_willis> install a honeypot :)
[08:55] <BluesKaj> Minataku, is there any other cli app besides cdrecord that will record audio?
[08:55] <Minataku> Yeah, offer up some malware and call it "HOT XXX AND SOFTWARE CRACKS PLUS MUCH MUCH MORE.EXE"
[08:56] <Minataku> It's guaranteed to get grabbed
[08:56] <Minataku> lol
[08:56] <drsatyri> you forgot warez
[08:56] <Minataku> Then make it display goatse when it's run
[08:56] <Minataku> And play a very loud, annoying sound
[08:56] <Minataku> Bonus if it locks up the computer
[08:56] <drsatyri> something by metallica
[08:56] <drsatyri> thats ALWAYS annoying
[08:56] <Minataku> What can they do? They logged in illegally and took the file without permission.
[08:57] <drsatyri> legally you could kill them
[08:57] <Minataku> I say at that point, you're within the law to embarass the crap out of them
[08:57] <drsatyri> i mean illegally
[08:57] <Minataku> >:P
[08:57] <Minataku> Nah, you don't want to damage anything in return
[08:57] <Minataku> Since you'd probably still get in trouble for that
[08:57] <drsatyri> people should go to jail for goatse.
[08:57] <Minataku> But a harmless prank isn't gonna damage anything
[08:58] <Minataku> See, that's why you use it in situations like this
[08:58] <Minataku> Though I'm sure most people like that are immune
[08:58] <Minataku> I'm joking of course, though a honeypot set up to waste their time is fine
[08:58] <Minataku> Any of that other stuff I don't actually recommend or condone
[08:58] <drsatyri> anyone see that cover of time magazine about the WTC that looked like goatse?
[08:58] <cloakable> o.o
[08:59] <Minataku> Imagine, a honeypot set up to resemble a 6th Edition Unix machine
[08:59] <Minataku> lol
[08:59] <BluesKaj> is there any other cli app besides cdrecord that will record audio...cdrecord seems old and clunky for my cdrom
[09:00] <Minataku> cdrecord _should_ have been long abandoned
[09:01] <BluesKaj> tovid rocks for video/dvd ..wondering if there's an audio equivalent
[09:02] <BluesKaj> <-- bit of an audio purist , I avoid compressed audio as much as possible lossless like flac etc and wav are my favs
[09:03] <Minataku> Bah
[09:03] <xevious> BluesKaj: i have my whole CD collection in flac. it's over 600 gigs
[09:03] <xevious> and yes, i actually own them all
[09:03] <Minataku> "audiophile" is typically synonymous with "loser"
[09:03] <BluesKaj> cool xevious
[09:04] <Dr_willis> "drinkophile" = alcoholic. :)
[09:04] <Minataku> People who've convinced themselves that they need $500 headphones when $20 ones are just as good
[09:04] <xevious> i have 500 dollar headphones
[09:04] <xevious> :D
[09:04] <Minataku> Noise cancelling headphones? Just turn up the volume.
[09:04] <xevious> i also have 25,000 of recording equipment
[09:05] <jpatrick> xevious: boy, did you get ripped off
[09:05] <Minataku> I just saved you $300
[09:05] <Minataku> lol
[09:05] <xevious> Minataku: uh, the idea is you dont have to turn up the volume to enjoy it, thus saving your ears
[09:05] <xevious> while i understand the idiocy of most audiophiles, i also like to have functioning ears
[09:05] <Minataku> Music is meant to be played fairly loud
[09:05] <xevious> i like it around 83db
[09:06] <Minataku> Even at safe volumes, external noise is typically a non-issue
[09:06] <xevious> which is the point that our ears are actually the most sensitive
[09:06] <Minataku> Unless it's REALLY loud
[09:06] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[09:06] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:06] <xevious> beyond 85db, our ears naturally attenuate sounds
[09:06] <xevious> sorry
[09:06] <Minataku> Nobody is asking for help
[09:06] <Minataku> Except BluesKaj, whom we were talking to
[09:07] <Minataku> blizzzek: You didn't mind, right?
[09:07] <Minataku> Er
[09:07] <Minataku> BluesKaj:
[09:07] <Minataku> Anyway, what did I use
[09:07] <blizzzek> Minataku: ;)
[09:08] <Minataku> I think I used cdda2mp3
[09:08] <Minataku> There's also 2ogg and 2wav
[09:08] <BluesKaj> well, guys I've been in the audio business and mp3 doesn't cut it for me , if you want to be critical of that then fine ...live with your flangy crappy sounding "tunes" ...it's just disposable product to most ppl these days anyway ..  ESS Reorder tone... I don't know why I like that so much
[09:15] <anto_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:15] <anto_> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[09:15] <anto_> Sorry about the spamm but could somone explain how to fix that_
[09:16] <Minataku> !glx
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Minataku> Hm
[09:16] <Minataku> !opengl
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Minataku> >:|
[09:16] <Minataku> !aiglx
[09:16] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[09:16] <anto_> i have already tried
[09:18] <adz21c> anto_: what you tried to fix it up to now?
[09:22] <kaminix> I just got my hands on some audiofiles in the Shorten (.shn) file format, how would I convert these to flac? Metadata is not neccesery.
[09:25] <esperegu> saluton
[09:25] <esperegu> how can I prevent that the interface loses it's settings when unplugging the networkcable??
[09:25] <anto> Geezuz can somone help me fix my glx problem?
[09:26] <esperegu> (I want it to use the static IP I set instead of using dhcp when I replug the cable)
[09:31] <frederic_> salut
[09:33] <anto> Can somone explain why Glx is not loading at startup here is my xorg log http://pastebin.com/m6a7aaab
[09:33] <adz21c> anto: what have you done to try to fix it up to now?
[09:35] <adz21c> anto: can you pastebin your xorg.conf
[09:37] <anto> adz21c: i alread did http://pastebin.com/m6a7aaab
[09:37] <adz21c> thats log, not the config file
[09:38] <anto> adz21c: ohh i read wrong sorry gimmie 2 seconds
[09:38] <adz21c> np :-)
[09:38] <anto> adz21c: http://pastebin.com/m6f2cd0a0
[09:39] <adz21c> i am assuming you have installed the propriatory nvidia drivers
[09:39] <adz21c> ?
[09:39] <anto> yes
[09:39] <anto> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:39] <anto> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[09:39] <adz21c> using debs or manally?
[09:39] <anto> when i try and run glxinfo/glxgears
[09:39] <anto> debs
[09:40] <adz21c> ok, which one u install? legacy, normal?
[09:40] <anto> adz21c: nvidia-glx-new
[09:40] <adz21c> ok 1 moment
[09:40] <New2Linux_ZeroBy> Greetings. New linux user here. Could use some help installing.
[09:41] <adz21c> anto check if this file exists /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[09:41] <adz21c> New2Linux_ZeroBy: just pose your question and someone will answer if they can :-)
[09:41] <New2Linux_ZeroBy> Ok. :)
[09:41] <xevious> sweet. totally cloaked now
[09:41] <anto> adz21c:
[09:41] <anto> anto@anto-desktop:~$ locate libglx.so
[09:41] <anto> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[09:42] <adz21c> ok, in your xorg.conf, where it says load glx change it to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[09:43] <New2Linux_ZeroBy> I want to install to an external usb hard drive. Installer recognizes it and lets me choose it. However, when it starts to install it says the drive is in use and needs to be unmounted. How do I unmount the drive?
[09:43] <anto> adz21c: be right back going to restard kdm
[09:43] <adz21c> anto: Load "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so" :-) that should hopefully do the trick
[09:43] <adz21c> ok
[09:43] <anto> adz21c: same problem
[09:45] <adz21c> hmmm ok
[09:46] <adz21c> New2Linux_ZeroBy: is there an icon for it on your desktop? try right clicking it if so and i think theres an unmount option
[09:47] <anto> adz21c: Be right back going to try somthing
[09:47] <adz21c> anto: oik
[09:47] <anto> adz21c:  didn't work :(
[09:47] <adz21c> same error still?
[09:48] <anto> Yeah its realy annoying because i can't play my favorit games :(
[09:48] <adz21c> ok one moment :-)
[09:50] <adz21c> can u put the log from since the change to ur config in pastebin please
[09:50] <anto> Oki
[09:50] <poison--> is there any emulator like daemon tools for kubuntu?
[09:50] <anto> adz21c: http://pastebin.com/m64448202 brb
[09:50] <adz21c> poison--: mount /somewhere.iso /somewhere/tomount -o loop look on google for something like that
[09:51] <poison--> nice
[09:52] <adz21c> anto: well it seems glx is loading correctly atleast now. does gears atleast start?
[09:52] <anto> adz21c: any new suggestions?
[09:53] <anto> a
[09:53] <anto> nto@anto-desktop:~$ glxgears
[09:53] <anto> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:53] <anto> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[09:53] <anto> be back in 2 minutes
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> anto: do you have an ATI?
[09:53] <anto> don't leave because i realy need your help
[09:53] <adz21c> no he is nvidia
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> oh
[09:53] <anto> nosrednaekim: Nvidia
[09:53] <anto> got any suggestions?
[09:53] <adz21c> according to the xorg log now glx is loading correctly
[09:54] <anto> adz21c: ill restart my computer instead of just X and hope for the best
[09:54] <anto> be back in 2 minutes
[09:54] <adz21c> ok
[09:54] <adz21c> actually no its not, theres a version mismatch
[09:54] <adz21c> oh too late
[09:54] <adz21c> haha
[09:55] <xevious> yeah that's a nvidia driver problem
[09:56] <xevious> i had the same thing happen on my first attempt at getting nvidia glx working
[09:57] <adz21c> yea, i had similar but i was installing manually
[09:57] <adz21c> i assumed the debs would be sorted
[09:57] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[10:00] <anto> adz21c: Somthing weird happend and now i'm on NV drivers going to post the xorg log give me two seconds
[10:00] <adz21c> ok
[10:02] <Shadow_mil> whoa! huge kubuntu update?
[10:03] <anto> adz21c: http://pastebin.com/m7534d083
[10:03] <xevious> Shadow_mil: the kde update?
[10:03] <Shadow_mil> ja
[10:04] <adz21c> anto: anything else of xorg.conf changed? only that line i said?
[10:05] <anto> ill paste it
[10:05] <adz21c> ok
[10:05] <anto> adz21c: http://pastebin.com/m275f4505
[10:07] <andersin> can someone with enough karma please close https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/118254, thanks
[10:07] <adz21c> what happens if u put sudo modprobe nvidia?
[10:07] <anto> Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:08] <anto> o.o
[10:08] <anto> somthing tells me that ain't right
[10:08] <anto> :>
[10:08] <adz21c> wheres it say that?
[10:08] <anto> Sorry for spamm but here
[10:08] <anto> anto@anto-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:08] <anto> Password:
[10:08] <anto> Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:08] <adz21c> hmm
[10:09] <andersin> anto: is your driver nvidia?
[10:09] <andersin> the nvidia load script will only load the kernel module, if you use it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:09] <anto> andersin: Yes it is
[10:10] <anto> andersin: How do i tell xorg to load it then ?
[10:10] <adz21c> you change nv to nvidia
[10:10] <andersin> in your Section "Device"
[10:10] <andersin> it needs to say Driver "nvidia"
[10:10] <tyr> I'm having a slight problem. Perhaps someone would be kind enough to help me. I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 fully updated, however whenever I login, KDE restarts. It should be noted that compiz is installed but not running, and compiz did work prior. In addition it appears like a script tries to run and then KDE blows up
[10:11] <anto> andersin if do that the i wont be able to use this channel because of some stupid error when startup please view the xorg.log
[10:11] <anto> andersin: http://pastebin.com/m64448202
[10:11] <xevious> andersin: my mute button gives OSD
[10:12] <tyr> I created a new account as per someones recommendation from linuxquestions but I get an error when I login to that one. It's unable to load kstartupmanager and stops
[10:13] <andersin> xevious: I reported it and it is fine now, but I cannot close it
[10:13] <xevious> andersin: ah. i see
[10:13] <andersin> anto: I cannot find an error in there
[10:13] <adz21c> anto: stop X, change xorg.conf, then try modprobe and see what it says, then come back here and tell me and see if that provides more useful info
[10:13] <anto> Okidoki
[10:13] <KDEfanboy> how do i tell if kubuntu system is running 32-bit or 64-bit?
[10:14] <nosrednaekim> KDEfanboy: "uname -a"
[10:14] <adz21c> KDEfanboy: uname -a
[10:14] <andersin> xevious: I need to learn launchpad, found the way to close it now, I think
[10:15] <KDEfanboy> ok what do i look for? im on gutsy
[10:15] <adz21c> x86_64 means 64bit
[10:15] <tyr> any ideas anyone? I don't want to be a bother, I just unfortunately have to leave pretty soon
[10:15] <anto> adz21c: Fatal error: WHILE running nvidia install somthing
[10:16] <KDEfanboy> ok i'm 386 so need to upgrade to x86_64.. how to do that?
[10:16] <andersin> anto: try to insmod it
[10:16] <nosrednaekim> KDEfanboy: you have to reload
[10:16] <adz21c> KDEfanboy: not sure if u can upgrade
[10:16] <nosrednaekim> KDEfanboy: and its really not necessary
[10:16] <anto> andersin: Explain
[10:16] <makuseru> hi, im having a problem with amarok, evertime it gets to the end of my playlist it crashes, anyone know what this problem is and how to fix it?
[10:16] <KDEfanboy> nosrednaekim: you mean reinstall the entire system right? i dont remember getting a choice when i installed kubuntu
[10:17] <nosrednaekim> KDEfanboy: you have to get a separate install CD.
[10:17] <anto> andersin: when i try and do insmod i get "insmod: can't read 'nvidia': No such file or directory"
[10:18] <xevious> i believe insmod takes a full file name
[10:18] <KDEfanboy> ok for future reference.. which is it? i think i remember using the dvd.. but im not sure
[10:18] <zooie> anyone know a trick to keep my sound card set as default, kubuntu seems to read the internel speaker as default, I want only my sound card to be on, any clues appreciated!!
[10:18] <andersin> anto: wait a moment, I need to find the correct path
[10:19] <xevious> KDEfanboy: why do you need 64? there's not a major performance increase and it actually makes some things harder to set up. aka: flash is only available in 32bit
[10:19] <KDEfanboy> think it was x86 dvd.. there is pc intel x86, mac powerpc, and 64-bit amd64... though i have intel c2d
[10:20] <KDEfanboy> xevious: no i just want to know.. it's always confused me when eventually everything works in 64-bit what i would need ..
[10:20] <anto> andersin: you will be my hero if you fix this
[10:21] <KDEfanboy> also since i upgraded to gutsy, only one processor is recognized now.. others apparently had the same problems in the forums.. i need to get that fixed too
[10:21] <andersin> anto: does /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile contain nvidia.ko?
[10:21] <andersin> zooie: you need to edit /etc/asound.conf
[10:22] <andersin> zooie: can you post /proc/asound/cards somewhere?
[10:22] <zooie> do i do that as root user?
[10:22] <andersin> you can
[10:22] <anto> andersin: it dose not even contain the folder volatile
[10:22] <andersin> otherwise you can edit .asoundrc
[10:22] <andersin> aha
[10:23] <andersin> anto: lets try to get it to work the easy way first
[10:23] <zooie> k ill try it thx much
[10:23] <andersin> check the alsa faq
[10:23] <KDEfanboy> is there even a 64-bit version kubuntu for intel cpus? only thing i see o nthe 7.10 download page is for AMD
[10:23] <andersin> zooie:http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ
[10:23] <adz21c> KDEfanboy: amd64 one works
[10:23] <anto> andersin: sounds like a good idea to me
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> KDEfanboy: Intel uses the AMD instruction set... it works fine
[10:24] <KDEfanboy> ahhh i see
[10:24] <andersin> anto:when you changed the xorg.conf and restarted X, it did not work, right?
[10:24] <waylandbill> it would probably be clearer saying it's x86_64.
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[10:24] <andersin> anto:lets see if we can figure out why
[10:24] <xevious> i generally don't use beta operating systems
[10:24] <anto> andersin: when i changed device to nvidia from nv it didn't work
[10:24] <andersin> anto:unfortunately I am not sure why not
[10:25] <andersin> the log you posted seemed to work fine
[10:25] <anto> thats an old log let me post a new one after i try and load and it didn't work
[10:25] <anto> be back in a second
[10:25] <andersin> wait
[10:25] <andersin> you need to copy the log file
[10:26] <andersin> otherwise X will overwrite it with the one that works
[10:26] <andersin> it does not append!
[10:26] <andersin> zooie: do you have a usb card?
[10:26] <ScorpKing> "IOError: [Errno 28]  No space left on device." how can i link my /tmp dir to /home/me/tmp ? sudo ln -s /tmp tmp/ wont work.
[10:26] <andersin> zooie: or is it built in?
[10:27] <andersin> ScorpKing: you need to remove /tmp first
[10:27] <andersin> or you can mount a tempfs on top of it
[10:27] <adi_> hi all
[10:28] <adi_> can anybody help....?
[10:28] <ScorpKing> andersin: how do i mount tempfs over it? i don't understand.
[10:28] <andersin> ScorpKing: dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/me/temp.img count=100 bs=1M
[10:28] <anto> andersin: http://pastebin.com/m18121755
[10:28] <adi_> I cant start adept or add/remove programs
[10:28] <andersin> mkfs.ext2 /home/me/temp.img
[10:28] <ScorpKing> andersin: ah i see. got it. thanks
[10:29] <andersin> sudo mount /home/me/temp.img /tmp -o loop
[10:29] <ScorpKing> ty
[10:29] <adi_> any command to start adept from shell??
[10:29] <anto> andersin: the problem is just at the end when its trying to load kernel and fails
[10:29] <anto> adi_: adept_manager
[10:29] <KDEfanboy> anyone know what happened to the smp kernel in gutsy?
[10:29] <clouder> leet console skills by andersin :O  /me jealous
[10:30] <adi_> yes
[10:30] <adi_> adept menager
[10:30] <andersin> anto: it does not load the kernel module!
[10:30] <adi_> cant start normal way
[10:30] <andersin> anto: X loads the X11 nvidia driver
[10:30] <anto> andersin: to be honest that dose not mean much to many 15 year old kids so explain what the problem is.
[10:31] <andersin> anto: I will try to type faster :-)
[10:31] <anto> andersin: i doubt its ment to do that so how do i fix it ??
[10:31] <andersin> what you need to do:
[10:31] <adi_> thanks anto.
[10:31] <anto> adi_: No problem :)
[10:31] <andersin> 1) edit xorg.conf to include nvidia in the drivers section, just like before
[10:31] <andersin> 2) sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:32] <andersin> and tell me if that now works
[10:32] <anto> andersin: modprobe nvidia dose not work, its Says Fatal error: nvidia installing command
[10:33] <andersin> anto: you have linux-restricted-modules installed, right?
[10:33] <andersin> I think it is called linux-restricted-modules-generic
[10:34] <anto> andersin: yes its called so and no it was not installed ?
[10:34] <andersin> you need that
[10:34] <anto> installing it now
[10:34] <ardchoille> apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[10:34] <anto> ardchoille: apt-get install linux-restrited-modules-generc works just as good
[10:34] <anto> andersin: should i try and restart with nvidia as device?
[10:34] <andersin> it should pull that as a dependency
[10:35] <andersin> no, lets first load the kernel module
[10:35] <andersin> try sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:35] <ardchoille> anto: "install" installs it "policy" looks to see if it's installed.
[10:35] <anto> ardchoille: Ahh ok sorry didn't know
[10:35] <anto> Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <andersin> could you post you xorg.conf
[10:37] <anto> andersin i just changed the device to nvidia without restarting X and now modprobe worked what should i do know?
[10:37] <adz21c> thats a good sign
[10:37] <andersin> ok
[10:37] <andersin> good
[10:38] <andersin> now try to restart X
[10:38] <anto> andersin: http://pastebin.com/m132ecea6 is the current conf just after i changed the nvidia device
[10:39] <anto> andersin: what do you suggest i do know then?
[10:39] <andersin> restart X
[10:39] <anto> Okidoki
[10:40] <xevious> have we checked dmesg to make sure he's using teh correct nvidia driver?
[10:40] <andersin> that appears in the X log
[10:41] <andersin> it complains about api mismatch
[10:41] <xevious> k
[10:41] <andersin> but that only appears if you restart X after having updated nvidia-glx to a new version
[10:41] <andersin> so it is pretty rare
[10:41] <xevious> i just glanced back at my screen and saw the nvidia issue was still at hand, so i thought i'd put in my two cents
[10:42] <xevious> bbiab - cigarette
[10:42] <unholyskorn> Can someone help me? I installed Kubuntu 10 on a partition on my hd that has windows xp now windows xp doesnt show up in the grub boot loader...
[10:42] <gnomefreak> andersin: its due to having installed drivers outside of ubuntu
[10:42] <andersin> xevious: nvidia kernel was not installed while the X11 module was
[10:43] <andersin> gnomefreak: true
[10:43] <gnomefreak> andersin: caused by the restricted-modules that it built still being there
[10:43] <andersin> gnomefreak: forgot about that
[10:43] <andersin> unholyskorn: can you post /boot/grub/menu.list in pastebin, please
[10:45] <unholyskorn> http://pastebin.com/m5d914bf9
[10:46] <anto> andersin huge error ill post pastebin 2 sec
[10:46] <andersin> unholyskorn: you see the example at line 39
[10:46] <andersin> unholyskorn: try to add that at the end
[10:46] <etienne> Salut ;)
[10:47] <anto> andersin:http://pastebin.com/m2c9f95c6
[10:47] <paolo_> hi, is it true that build-essential pkgs are not part of kubuntu 7 while they were present in the previous version?
[10:47] <andersin> unholyskorn: which partition is windows on?
[10:47] <unholyskorn> the first one
[10:47] <unholyskorn> i have Windows | Linux
[10:49] <olimpico> Please help me, I can't configure my microphone correctly
[10:49] <anto> andersin: any idea?
[10:49] <olimpico> I can hear myself when using it, but I can't record anything
[10:49] <andersin> anto: is the GPU recent?
[10:49] <olimpico> I selected record on kmix, but still I can't record anything
[10:50] <anto> GPu??
[10:50] <unholyskorn> andersin what do i do?
[10:50] <olimpico> The weirdest thing is that I can hear when I get the MUTE off on the kmix
[10:50] <adz21c> anto what graphics card you got
[10:50] <olimpico> Please, could someone help me?
[10:50] <anto> adz21c: Geforce6600 series
[10:51] <andersin> anto: is the card recent
[10:51] <andersin> anto: or is it older
[10:51] <anto> its notthat old
[10:51] <andersin> ok
[10:51] <anto> il ask my father 2seconds
[10:52] <fawx> hello how do i know whut graphic and sound drivers i need?
[10:53] <frojnd> how can I install knetowork manager ?? here shows a list of packages that relates knetworkmanager http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=knetworkmanager&version=edgy&arch=i386&page=1&number=50
[10:53] <Dr_willis> fawx,  install/run the 'restricted-manager' tool is one wqay
[10:53] <fawx> type that in the quick filter
[10:54] <[Relic] > is there a new version this month?
[10:54] <andersin> anto: please post ls -lFa /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[10:54] <andersin> [Relic] : yes
[10:54] <Dr_willis> gutsy is due out in a fewq days
[10:54] <unholyskorn> Why can I not sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.list ??????????????/
[10:54] <Dr_willis> unholyskorn,  perhaps relay some error message?
[10:54] <andersin> unholyskorn: ksudo kate /boot/grub/menu.list
[10:54] <adz21c> unholyskorn: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:54] <andersin> or do xhost + first
[10:54] <Dr_willis> its .lst
[10:54] <[Relic] > .lst
[10:54] <Dr_willis> for one :)
[10:55] <genii> I wouldn't say a week and a day is a few days
[10:55] <Dr_willis> this is when 'tab completion' comes in handy
[10:55] <anto> anto@anto-desktop:~$ ls -lFa /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[10:55] <anto> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2007-10-10 22:40 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.100.14.19*
[10:55] <unholyskorn> # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
[10:55] <unholyskorn> #            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
[10:55] <unholyskorn> #            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
[10:55] <unholyskorn> #            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.
[10:55] <unholyskorn> ## default num
[10:55] <[Relic] > just trying to figure out when I need to clean out my drive and make my list o installed thingies to reinstall after a clean install  :)
[10:55] <adz21c> anto: are you trying to use the deb or manual install?
[10:56] <unholyskorn> wow why did it do that
[10:56] <anto> adz21c: to be honest i'm not to sure
[10:56] <xevious> anto: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[10:56] <adz21c> anto: well it seems both
[10:56] <Dr_willis> i would guess you select4ed/middleclicked
[10:56] <xevious> that'll tell you which version you need
[10:56] <unholyskorn> http://pastebin.com/m5a47687d
[10:56] <unholyskorn> please tell me why i cant sudo kate or ANYTHING
[10:56] <Dr_willis> i would guess you select4ed/middleclicked
[10:56] <Dr_willis> unholyskorn,  try  kate testfile
[10:57] <Sanne> [Relic] : here are two commands that tell you your installed packages: "dpkg -l" and "dpkg --get-selections"
[10:57] <anto> adz21c: somehow that dosen't seam like a very good idea witch one do you suggest i use and how do i clean up the otherone then??
[10:57] <bw__> test
[10:57] <adz21c> anto: well i would say if u stick to just the deb you should be fine, i doubt the very latest drivers make much different to the 6000 series
[10:57] <andersin> anto: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[10:58] <[Relic] > Sanne, sure I have a 3x5 with some sort of command to flush it into a file  so I can make a quick shell install of it  :)
[10:58] <andersin> anto: it seems that you downloaded the driver from the nvidia website
[10:58] <anto> andersin: i don't have nvidia-glx installed but nvidia-glx-new do you suggestthat i download nvidia-glx?
[10:59] <andersin> anto: are you on feisty or gutsy?
[10:59] <anto> Feisty
[10:59] <Sanne> [Relic] : 3x5?
[10:59] <[Relic] > Sanne, small standard note card 3"x5"  :)
[10:59] <Sanne> [Relic] : ah! :)
[10:59] <andersin> anto: I have a nvidia card and I use nvidia-glx
[10:59] <anto> Ok
[11:00] <andersin> lets give that a try first
[11:00] <[Relic] > Sanne, much better than huge piles o paper  :)
[11:00] <Sanne> [Relic] : yes, that's correct :)
[11:00] <[Relic] > Envy still up to date for installing nvidia drivers?
[11:00] <fawx> i installed nvidia glx and enabled it then i tried to log back in nd it wouldn't and the screen went black after it started up
[11:00] <Dr_willis> i would have to say.. avoid envy. :)
[11:00] <[Relic] > never had a problem with it since I have a really old nvidia card  :)
[11:00] <andersin> anto: did you ever download from nvidia, or did you only use the ubuntu package manager
[11:01] <Dr_willis> theres also i belive 3 different nvidia packages.. dependong on how old your card is.
[11:01] <[Relic] > GF2 mx440  :)
[11:01] <Dr_willis> !find legacy
[11:01] <ubotu> Found: kmilo-legacy, legacyhuman-theme, xkb-data-legacy, nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx-legacy-dev (and 1 others)
[11:01] <fawx> then last night i had to re format my  drive
[11:01] <Dr_willis> nvidia-glx-legacy  - for the older cards
[11:01] <anto> andersin: i did download from nvidiia
[11:01] <andersin> anto: did you install that one?
[11:01] <anto> well that is what i did from the start but then it said somthing about nvidia-glx so installed
[11:02] <andersin> ok
[11:02] <Dr_willis> for a gf2 - i would think the Nvidia-glx-legacy is the proper package to install.
[11:02] <ScorpKing> uga: pm?
[11:03] <TrueFX> hi guys
[11:03] <TrueFX> how can i list printer in my system ?
[11:03] <TrueFX> from commadn line ?
[11:03] <anto> andersin   what do you suggest i do know?
[11:04] <ScorpKing> TrueFX: with cups
[11:04] <andersin> anto: install nvidia-glx
[11:04] <Dr_willis> cups.org has some good docs  on using the command line tools.
[11:04] <anto> anderin:i already done that
[11:05] <andersin> ok
[11:05] <andersin> anto: ls -lFa /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[11:05] <anto> andersin:lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2007-10-10 23:00 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.100.14.19*
[11:06] <adz21c> i think u need to clean out the manual install first
[11:06] <andersin> anto: ok, that is still the new version
[11:06] <andersin> anto: ls -lFa /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9*
[11:07] <anto> andersin; -rw-r--r-- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-06-25 23:31 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9631
[11:07] <TrueFX> scorpking: is there not any other way to do it ?
[11:07] <andersin> anto: strings /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/nvidia.ko |grep "nvidia id"
[11:07] <ScorpKing> TrueFX: i don't think so.
[11:09] <anto> anto@anto-desktop:~$ strings /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/nvidia.ko | grep "nvidia id"
[11:09] <anto> strings: '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file
[11:09] <andersin> really?
[11:09] <anto> Yes
[11:10] <andersin> the nvidia module is loaded right
[11:10] <adz21c> i don't think the debs store it in volatile
[11:10] <feierfox> will there be KDE 3.5.8 in the final gutsy?
[11:11] <anto> andersin what do you suggest that i do?
[11:11] <andersin> anto: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name nvidia.ko
[11:11] <anto> andersin: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[11:12] <andersin> anto: strings /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko | grep "nvidia id"
[11:12] <anto> andersin:nvidia id: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  100.14.19  Wed Sep 12 14:08:38 PDT 2007
[11:12] <andersin> ok, so that is the new kernel module that you got from the nvidia installer
[11:14] <andersin> anto: is nvidia-glx-new still installed
[11:14] <andersin> anto: and do apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[11:15] <andersin> anto: and see if the restricted modules are really installed
[11:17] <ScorpKing> feierfox: i think it will be 3.5.7.
[11:17] <anto> Sorry about sapmmbu
[11:17] <anto> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic:
[11:17] <anto>   Installed: <IP_ADDRESS>-16.29
[11:17] <anto>   Candidate: <IP_ADDRESS>-16.29
[11:17] <anto>   Version table:
[11:17] <anto>  *** <IP_ADDRESS>-16.29 0
[11:17] <anto>         500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Packages
[11:17] <anto>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
[11:17] <anto>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:17] <feierfox> ooooh :/ :(((
[11:18] <andersin> anto: ok, the same for nvidia-glx, please
[11:18] <anto> Candidate: 1:1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.29
[11:18] <anto>   Version table:
[11:18] <anto>  *** 1:1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.29 0
[11:18] <anto>         500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates/restricted Packages
[11:18] <anto>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
[11:18] <anto>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:18] <anto>      1:1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-15.20 0
[11:18] <anto>         500 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages
[11:19] <anto> Andersin iwas thinking of reinstalling my computer tomorrow maybe you could help me from the start ?
[11:19] <andersin> anto: where is the fun in that :-)
[11:20] <anto> true :P
[11:20] <andersin> anto: is there an uninstaller for the driver from nvidia
[11:20] <anto> no
[11:20] <waltercool> kubuntu 7.10 comes with kde3.5.7 and 4.0?
[11:20] <adz21c> i think u can pass a paramater to the installer, but not sure
[11:20] <andersin> anto: sudo dpkg -P nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-new
[11:21] <andersin> anto: rm /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[11:21] <ubuntu> hi
[11:21] <andersin> anto: sudo rm /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[11:21] <andersin> anto: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:21] <ubuntu> i am brazilian
[11:22] <ubuntu> do you speak spanish?
[11:22] <ubuntu> pls]
[11:22] <anto> ubuntu there are spanish helpchannels this one is english
[11:22] <julio> foi mal
[11:22] <julio> mudei
[11:22] <julio> sorry
[11:23] <julio> alguem fala portugues?
[11:23] <julio> alguem fala brasilereis
[11:23] <julio> por favor
[11:24] <andersin> !pt
[11:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:25] <andersin> anto: so reinstalled ok?
[11:25] <anto> andersin yeah goingto gotobed i needtobuy a new keyboard to because thisone isjust screwed
[11:26] <andersin> anto: try to catch me tomorrow
[11:26] <andersin> anto: should you reinstall, keep the xorg.conf around
[11:26] <anto> anderssin iwwilltry
[11:26] <andersin> you only need linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx
[11:26] <anto> Only deps?
[11:26] <anto> Oki
[11:26] <anto> and what if i getthe kernelissueagain?
[11:27] <anto> i must go nowi gotschooltomorrow
[11:27] <anto> thanksfor tryingtohelp
[11:27] <julio> valeu brigaduuuu
[11:27] <poison--> julio?
[11:28] <julio> oi
[11:28] <poison--> rsrsrs
[11:28] <poison--> sampa?
[11:28] <julio> ribeirao preto sp
[11:28] <julio> e vc?
[11:28] <poison--> sp
[11:28] <julio> yesss
[11:28] <poison--> :D
[11:28] <julio> ou foi mal.. blz
[11:28] <poison--> try to keep it in english
[11:28] <poison--> :D
[11:29] <julio>  em portugues mesmo que quero..
[11:29] <poison--> !pt
[11:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:29] <poison--> :D
[11:29] <julio> como fao pra traduzir para portugues o meu Kubuntu
[11:29] <julio> ?
[11:30] <julio> sou novato em linux e nao sei configurar
[11:30] <poison--> julio, read the pm
[11:30] <poison--> and u need to register your nick so u can talk with me in private
[11:32] <poison--> l8r guys, bb tomorrow
[11:35] <waltercool> !pt
[11:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:42] <Dr_willis> All the Spanish I know i Learned on #kubuntu :)
[11:42] <Dr_willis> and dutch, and german, and greek, and...
[11:49] <fawx> Dr willis
[11:49] <fawx> i have the synaptic pkg manager
[11:50] <fawx> but do i have to get nvidia or can i get a different one
[11:51] <Dr_willis> hmm..
[11:51] <Dr_willis>  Not sure what you are asking. The 'nvidia-glx' package you need depends on what video card you have exactly
[11:52] <Dr_willis> I normally install the 'restricted-manager' tool and 'sudo restricted-manager' and let IT install the packages.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> !find nvidia-glx
[11:52] <ubotu> Found: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-dev, nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx-new-dev, nvidia-glx-legacy (and 1 others)
[11:52] <Dr_willis> the glx-legacy is for older cards. new - would be for the newer cards (not sure what ones count however)
[11:53] <fawx> how doi know if i have an old card
[11:53] <fawx> if my comp is old?
[11:54] <Dr_willis> what IS your card
[11:55] <Dr_willis> theres a list  on the Nvidia web site that  details what cards use what drivers
[11:55] <xevious> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[11:55] <fawx> i don't really know..
[11:55] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[11:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:55] <fawx> do i have to open y comp to see whut it is
[11:55] <fawx> i tied those
[11:55] <xevious> fawx: use lspci
[11:55] <fawx> tried8
[11:55] <Dr_willis> lspci | grep -i nvidia
[11:56] <Dr_willis> mine is -->  02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS]  (rev a2)
[11:56] <henrik__> Hey guys, If I want to start a new X session, with like only one program running in it ( not kdm) , how am I supposed to do?
[11:56] <toti_> niente da fare la scheda audio funziona solo quella della motherboard...per stasera mi accontento...grazie mille del supporto
[11:56] <fawx> my comp blacked out last time i used nvidia-glx
[11:56] <xevious> lspci|grep VGA will be more reliable, because teh motherboard could be chock full of nvidia components
[11:56] <fawx> oh
[11:56] <Dr_willis> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html shows what cards use what  (legacy/normal/new)
[11:56] <xevious> mine: 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150]  (rev a2)
[11:57] <xevious> i've pasted that link in here like 8 times in the past 2 hours
[11:57] <fawx> ok...
[11:57] <xevious> i dont think anyone noticed
[11:57] <xevious> fawx: what is yours?
[11:57] <fawx> umm...
[11:57] <mr_marvin> if i run "python ~/Desktop/server/stream.py" i get error that file is not found (required by the script), and the file is in same directory?
[11:57] <Dr_willis> 6150 - use nvidia-glx
[11:57] <xevious> i have it working, Dr_willis
[11:58] <fawx> hold on i went to the site but which 1 is mine i can't figure out
[11:58] <Yammeh> Does konversation not support auto rejoin on kick?
[11:58] <ScorpKing> Yammeh: yes
[11:58] <xevious> fawx: open Konsole, and type lspci|grep VGA
[11:58] <fawx> ok the real question is how do i figure out which card do i have
[11:58] <fawx> ?
[11:58] <ScorpKing> it does support it. :)
[11:58] <xevious> we've told you 17 times
[11:59] <fawx> sorry
[11:59] <Dr_willis> fawx,  lspci|grep VGA
[11:59] <Yammeh> where's the setting, ScorpKing?
[11:59] <henrik__> anyone got a tip for me about starting a new X session with only one program running in it?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> henrik__,   depends on the details as to what you are doing exactly
[11:59] <fawx> rev 03?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> henrik__,  making a new 'session entry' in the kdm sessions is rather trivial.
[12:00] <xevious> fawx: what's teh whole line?
[12:00] <ScorpKing> Yammeh: not sure but it's enabled by default.
[12:00] <fawx> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 03)
[12:00] <xevious> you dont have nvidia graphics
[12:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:00] <fawx> lol
[12:00] <Dr_willis> the old 810.
[12:00] <Dr_willis> !810
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 810 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <Dr_willis> !intel
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <Dr_willis> !find 810
[12:00] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-i810, i810switch
[12:00] <fawx> 810?
[12:01] <Dr_willis> 810 is a rather low end video chipset by intel.
[12:01] <fawx> so go to intel nd find the 810
[12:01] <henrik__> ok, I want to shut down kdm, and only have one program running, so I optimise the memory-use to that program.
[12:01] <Dr_willis> fawx,  are you haveing any specific problems with your video card?
[12:02] <fawx> i don't know if there is one or whut type it is
[12:02] <Dr_willis> henrik__,  thats even easier.. dont run the kdm or gdm service. make a .xinitrc file for the user. have it launch EXACTLY what you want. and start the X session with 'startx'
[12:02] <fawx> cuz i'm trying to play a game but it says my drivers aren't up to date
[12:02] <henrik__> okay, you got a website for me where I lear to write those? :D
[12:02] <Dr_willis> fawx,  are you having Video Card problems? is somthing not working? what Game is this?
[12:02] <henrik__> learn*
[12:02] <fawx> Maplestory
[12:02] <henrik__> dont want to trouble you about that ;)
[12:02] <Dr_willis> henrik__,  its a simple script.
[12:03] <Dr_willis> henrik__,  example .xinitrc  2 lines... xterm &    exec jwm
[12:03] <henrik__> okay, i'm rather new to this, but I'll have a go :)
[12:03] <Dr_willis> assuming ya got jwm installed
[12:03] <fawx> the game guard part says my drivers aren't up to date
[12:03] <Dr_willis> startx then reads the .xinitrc and starts up X using it as what to run
[12:03] <Dr_willis> 'startkde' would launch the full kde session,  jwm starts the mini jwm window manager.. ect...
[12:03] <ubuntu> yahoo.com
[12:03] <Dr_willis> USE & at the end of lines except the last one.
[12:04] <Dr_willis> maplestory - heh - they advertise that like crazy
[12:04] <xevious> fawx: can you give me a link to that game's web site?
[12:04] <henrik__> can i apt-get jwm ?
[12:04] <ubuntu> how do i set up ubuntu?
[12:05] <fawx> yep hold on
[12:05] <Dr_willis> henrik__,  same as you install anything else.. package manager, or sudo apt-get install Whatever
[12:05] <knubbe> isnt it possible to alt-tab back and forth between two windows?
[12:05] <Dr_willis> henrik__,  theres dozens of window managetrs to chose from.
[12:05] <xevious> knubbe: i just did
[12:05] <henrik__> thanks a lot for helping me, I'll give it a shot :D
[12:05] <Dr_willis> jwm is a very light/small one.
[12:05] <henrik__> perfect :)
[12:05] <knubbe> xevious: how does it look like?
[12:05] <ineedhelp> will someone help me write a shell script
[12:05] <Dr_willis> icewm is nice also, fluxbox, openbox, blackbox ect are others..
[12:05] <ineedhelp> step by step
[12:05] <ineedhelp> im really confused and noob to ubuntu
[12:06] <fawx> http://maplestory.nexon.net/
[12:06] <knubbe> xevious: when i alt-tab it takes me to the next window immediately
[12:06] <Dr_willis> fire up an editor.. line 1 #!/bin/bash
[12:06] <Dr_willis> like #2  echo "hello world"
[12:06] <xevious> knubbe: there's a vertically sorted list
[12:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:06] <Dr_willis> save, chmod +x the file. run it.
[12:06] <knubbe> xevious: and the next time i alt-tab it doesnt take me back, it goes to the next one
[12:06] <ineedhelp> i have a specific thing that i need help with
[12:06] <ineedhelp> Write a bash shell script, called phonedir.sh that maintains a phone directory in a file called phonedir.txt in the invoking user's home directory. The script takes two or three arguments, with the first argument being the operation the script is supposed to do (notice this first arg starts with a -).
[12:06] <henrik__> *starting Kedit*
[12:06] <henrik__> :)
[12:06] <ubuntu> i know im on the net but how do i download yahoo.com ect.
[12:07] <Dr_willis> fawx,  thers a linux client for maple story? or are you using wine?
[12:07] <knubbe> xevious: is it possible to change this behaviour? its quite annoying
[12:07] <ineedhelp> someone please?
[12:07] <xevious> fawx: that's a windows game
[12:07] <xevious> knubbe: hold alt, and press tab repeatedly
[12:08] <xevious> knubbe: it should keep the window list as you hold alt
[12:08] <Dr_willis> ineedhelp,  the 'advanced bash scripting guide' has examples of all those features.
[12:08] <toti_> conoscete un programma kubuntu che mi permetta di vedere i programmi dalla scheda tv?
[12:08] <ineedhelp> oh really
[12:08] <ineedhelp> where is this guide?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> google.com, or install it from the repos
[12:08] <Dr_willis> !find abs
[12:08] <ubotu> Found: abuse-frabs, libclass-dbi-abstractsearch-perl, libclass-dbi-plugin-abstractcount-perl, libdbix-abstract-perl, libemail-abstract-perl (and 3 others)
[12:08] <Dr_willis> !abs
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <ubuntu> never mind i was told this system was better than gates bull shit
[12:08] <Dr_willis> !find bash-guide
[12:09] <ubotu> Package/file bash-guide does not exist in feisty
[12:09] <fawx> i know
[12:09] <xevious> knubbe: i havent changed the settings, so what i have is the default
[12:09] <knubbe> xevious: i think compiz screwed up this feature. its really really annoying imo.
[12:09] <Dr_willis> !info  abs-guide
[12:09] <ubotu> abs-guide: The Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.1-1 (feisty), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4332 kB
[12:09] <fawx> i don't think there's a linux client i'm using wine
[12:09] <xevious> knubbe: you're running compiz?
[12:09] <ubuntu> thanks by
[12:10] <xevious> knubbe: or were you formerly running it?
[12:10] <knubbe> xevious: not any more, but its still installed
[12:10] <xevious> huh
[12:10] <xevious> knubbe: well i'm not sure how to change it back, sorry
[12:10] <xevious> knubbe: try #kde
[12:10] <knubbe> xevious: ok, no problem. i might have to do a fresh install.
[12:11] <ineedhelp> the guide is confusing
[12:11] <ineedhelp> grrr
[12:11] <xevious> knubbe: i doubt that's necessary.
[12:11] <Dr_willis> wow - maplestoryinstall.exe is going to take an HOUR to download.. :0
[12:11] <Dr_willis> 240 kb/sec :)
[12:11] <Dr_willis> 660 mb. gesh
[12:11] <fawx> yea
[12:11] <fawx> but it's a good game
[12:12] <xevious> wine wont run it
[12:12] <Dr_willis> no idea on that fawx  i doubt if i find out.. :) i aint waiting an hour.
[12:12] <xevious> www.winehq.org appdb
[12:12] <xevious> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=8356
[12:12] <knubbe> xevious: my computer is quite screwed up anyway nowadays. ive done quite a lot of experimenting lately.
[12:12] <Dr_willis> thank you xevious  :)
[12:12] <knubbe> xevious: running the gutsy beta now ..
[12:12] <fawx> thx anyway
[12:12] <xevious> knubbe: daring. :) i avoid beta OSes
[12:13] <Dr_willis> Using gutsy also. :)
[12:13] <Dr_willis> i avoid beta OSes like windows.. :)
[12:14] <knubbe> xevious: well.. only had a major issue once when my wlan stopped working on the 5.10 beta
[12:15] <xevious> feisty works solid for me
[12:15] <xevious> i like that
[12:15] <xevious> in fact, it was pretty frustrating that there werent any snags
[12:15] <xevious> part of the fun of linux used to be that it took days to get it up and running
[12:15] <xevious> dinner time
[12:15] <xevious> bbiaw
[12:16] <knubbe> i could probably remove my ~/.kde
[12:16] <loccal_host> d\]
[12:16] <localhost> d
[12:16] <localhost> oops
[12:16] <savetheWorld> !langauge > ubuntu
[12:17] <savetheWorld> !language
[12:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:17] <localhost> Anyone know when exactly the release candidate is going to be up????
[12:17] <mneptok> When It's Ready
[12:17] <knubbe> localhost: have you checked the release schedule?
[12:17] <mneptok> (tm)
[12:17] <localhost> yes
[12:17] <localhost> of course
[12:17] <localhost> so at midnight?/
[12:17] <localhost> what time zone...??
[12:18] <mneptok> there is no set time
[12:18] <localhost> ya' know
[12:18] <localhost> oct. 11th right
[12:18] <localhost> so some time on that day probably...
[12:18] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: if i install abs-guide where do i find the files?
[12:19] <Kachna> mmm 2.6.23 final is out?
[12:20] <knubbe> localhost: new kernel in the repo now and lots of other updates, maybe thats the rc.
[12:20] <Dr_willis> - /usr/share/doc is where most docs go.. use the package manager tools to see what files are in a package.
[12:20] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: thanks :D
[12:20] <Dr_willis> abs guide is also avail online of course :)
[12:21] <Dr_willis> and theres dozens of other bash guides/programing tutorials out
[12:24] <Yammeh> Is the default ftp package in kubuntu good? Or is it worth grabbing a different one?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> theres no default ftp server installed.
[12:25] <Yarou> hi
[12:25] <Dr_willis> There are several you can chose from If you want a ftp  server.
[12:25] <Yammeh> client, not server.. sorry
[12:25] <Yarou> why is my networking so slow?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> Most all the file managers can do ftp connections.
[12:25] <Yarou> i get 3 mb/s, but on Kubuntu, i get 16.0 kb/s
[12:25] <Yarou> i'm sorry, 16.7 kb/s
[12:26] <gianluigi_> Ciao
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> Yarou: when do you get these low speeds?
[12:26] <Yarou> nosrednaekim: all the time
[12:26] <Dr_willis> !ftp
[12:26] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[12:26] <Yarou> through apt, konqueror, you name it
[12:26] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heya
[12:26] <Dr_willis> !Kasablanca
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <Yarou> on Win32, however, it's always 3 mb/s
[12:26] <Dr_willis> Hay Minataku  - strike is over.
[12:26] <Dr_willis> Yarou,  its possible that windows is Lieing.
[12:27] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I was gonna say, at the very least, get the three A1200s and the one PSU into the box S3
[12:27] <Yarou> yeah, lying
[12:27] <Dr_willis> Ive seen windows give wrong #'s quite a bit :)
[12:27] <Minataku> *X3
[12:27] <Yarou> which is why i can download a 30 mb file in 3 seconds
[12:27] <Yarou> man, they sure had me going
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> XD
[12:27] <SheeEttin> Yarou: and you have it configured the same?
[12:27] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  its 2 A500's and a A1200 i think.. Unless im confused..
[12:27] <Yarou> SheeEttin: yeah
[12:27] <Minataku> Windows will occasionally quote some time around 847832749 minutes to copy a 1MB file
[12:27] <Dr_willis> got 2 in one box. and  the 3rd in a 2nd.. fitting in the ps's now.
[12:28] <Minataku> So it's numerical capacity is quite suspect
[12:28] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Cool
[12:28] <Dr_willis> and some floppies.. and  i got a CD32 thats quite rare. :) but the PS is missing on it.
[12:28] <Minataku> Send
[12:28] <Dr_willis> its a A500+cd drive + expansion bay. and can use normal PC keborard/mice. :)
[12:28] <Minataku> em along anyway
[12:28] <Minataku> lol
[12:28] <Minataku> Heehee
[12:28] <Minataku> Yeah, send 'em anyway
[12:29] <SheeEttin> Minataku: Windows is suspect? http://www.michaellarabel.com/index.php?k=blog&i=284
[12:29] <Minataku> In the meantime, I'll try to learn how to use my keyboard properly >.<
[12:29] <Dr_willis> You can "parnet" them together even. Or use the serial port to a Unix box and use 'dnet' :)
[12:29] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh. strike is over.. i  may get a chance to actually get them sent now.
[12:29] <Minataku> Sweet :D
[12:30] <Minataku> Then I can get them situated and add them to the collection :D
[12:30] <Dr_willis> Then you can play games on them.
[12:30] <Minataku> Heehee
[12:30] <Minataku> That too, of course
[12:30] <Dr_willis> FirePower  , 2 amigas + null modem serial cable = a blast
[12:32] <Dr_willis> time for some food here. :) this 'watching the strike news' has wore me out!
[12:32] <Minataku> lol
[12:34] <contrast83> Anyone know of an IRC client that allows for split-views?
[12:34] <Zelut> contrast83: irssi + screen ?
[12:35] <contrast83> Zelut: will try that out, thanks
[12:36] <contrast83> Zelut: From my understanding, I'd basically be using multiple instances of irssi for what you're suggesting, right?
[12:37] <Zelut> contrast83: I believe you can just split the screen and be in two channels at once
[12:37] <Airforce55555> what a command to kill a program other then killall. i can use killall if you can tell me what firefox is called in killall
[12:37] <Zelut> contrast83: its been a while since I've done it, but its possible..
[12:38] <SheeEttin> Airforce55555: killall firefox-bin
[12:38] <new2ub> I have an interesting question and I think it's suppose to be here since the game is called KBlackBox......how do you play it?  I can't get the file to come up that explains it at all.
[12:38] <Airforce55555> thanks
[12:38] <Minataku> Actually, better is... nevermind
[12:38] <Minataku> lol
[12:38] <Minataku> That's fine enough
[12:39] <Minataku> I doubt anyone in here will use a Unix where that command takes no arguments and does exactly what it says
[12:39] <Minataku> lol
[12:39] <Minataku> (In some Unixes, that will literally send the signals to EVERY process)
[12:40] <SheeEttin> new2ub: KBlackBox appears in my K Menu and the binary is called kblackbox, in my path and probably yours
[12:40] <Dragnslcr> Just in case you were curious, you can also use "ps aux | grep firefox" to find the pid, then "kill <pid>" to kill the specific process
[12:41] <Minataku> Dragnslcr: Easier way, if you have psmisc, is to do "kill `pidof firefox-bin`"
[12:41] <new2ub> SheeEttin, I just want to know how to play the game,....my son is into games and I wanted to show him the many different choices in ubuntu that we didn't have in windoze
[12:41] <Minataku> Note that the character is the `, which is the unshifted ~
[12:41] <Minataku> Dr_willis: :3
[12:41] <Minataku> Er
[12:41] <Minataku> Dragnslcr: :3
[12:41] <Dragnslcr> True. I'm sure there's a dozen ways to cram it into a signal line of bash


[01:36] <Peng> `bzr selftest --parallel=subprocess` is the reason I can remember it's not spelled "paralell". Thanks, Bazaar. :D
[02:54] <fullermd> Well, bzr is the reason I can't spell "bar" anymore.  Thanks, Bazaaar   :p
[03:16] <Peng> Heh, same


[07:06] <bkerensa> hi ethan
[07:06] <ethan> hi there!
[07:06] <bkerensa> and hi Odysimus (saw you joined earlier was busy :P)
[07:07] <Odysimus> yea i'm one of those OSU LUGers
[07:07] <bkerensa> Cool
[07:07] <bkerensa> :)
[07:07] <bkerensa> we love OSU
[07:07] <bkerensa> :D
[07:08] <ethan> yeah, OSU OSL!!
[07:08] <ethan> Salem, OR here
[07:08] <ethan> will be starting work soon to revive the LUG here
[07:08] <Odysimus> nice, I'm from Stayton
[07:09] <ethan> oh cool!
[07:09] <ethan> my project partner (John Razor) had mentioned that Ubuntu Oregon had gotten in touch with him
[07:10] <ethan> he's in charge of the Salem LUG Meetup group at the moment
[07:10] <ethan> and has the salemlug.org domain
[07:10] <bkerensa> ethan: cool yeah I had e-mailed someone... We have some Ubuntu people in Salem and Keizer areas who are looking to hook up with the LUG
[07:10] <ethan> wonderful!
[07:11] <ethan> so, the group seems to revive and keep dying
[07:11] <ethan> in large part because of a lack of focus
[07:11] <ethan> we want to give it a service-oriented focus
[07:11] <ethan> in the spirit of FOSS
[07:11] <ethan> and philosophy of ubuntu :)
[07:11] <bkerensa> cool
[07:12] <bkerensa> Well my e-mail is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>so feel free to idle and when you get a irc channel going I will idle and we can look into working together
[07:12]  * bkerensa needs some sleep (been at a conference all day)
[07:12] <ethan> sounds great!  i will be in touch soon
[07:13] <ethan> our IRC is #gstep
[07:13] <ethan> it stands for Greater Salem Technology Equity Project
[07:13] <ethan> i will be in touch via email soon
[07:13] <ethan><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:36] <bkerensa> Photo of Canonical Guys & Ubuntu Oregon Guys at PuppetConf: http://bit.ly/mOVSHN