[00:00] <Riddell> ScottK: but paul wants to do the testing on 4.6 because that's the bit that will need and benefit from testing
[00:00] <ScottK> Riddell: I think we should plan on packaging both and decide later which is on the CD.
[00:00] <Riddell> ScottK: sure
[00:00] <Riddell> ScottK: I'd expect a decision before feature freeze though
[00:00] <ScottK> Yep
[00:01] <Riddell> so his testing is timed to be able to inform that
[00:02] <ScottK> I think that having both in the archive is a good general plan.
[00:02] <Riddell> ScottK: conflicting packages?
[00:03] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  I don't see a use case for having them co-installable.
[00:04] <Riddell> in such a case it would be good to keep the 4.6 mobile bits co-installable with the normal 4.4 bits, then mobile can go on kubuntu-mobile without conflicting with kubuntu-desktop
[00:04] <ScottK> Yes.
[00:27] <stefan`> hey ninjas :)
[00:27] <stefan`> i was jsut upgrading using the staging repo
[00:28] <stefan`> after some fiddeling with tiny steps forward i have a problem with akonadi
[00:28] <stefan`> i wnat to install kdebase-workspace but if i try so aptitude gives the following error:
[00:29] <stefan`> libakonadiprotocolinternals1: Breaks: libakonadiprivate1 but 1.4.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[00:30] <Riddell> you want libakonadiprotocolinternals1
[00:30] <Riddell> is kdepim upgraded?
[00:30] <JontheEchidna> anybody seen this one yet? http://paste.ubuntu.com/538497/
[00:31] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: yes..
[00:31] <yofel> that was fixed in runtime ubuntu2 I think
[00:31] <stefan`> but libakonadiprivate1 is not installed - i can install akonadi-server, though
[00:31] <JontheEchidna> hmm, I thought I had apt-get update'd
[00:31] <stefan`> which gives me the protocol internals but still the same error
[00:31] <yofel> stefan`: you want to remove libakonadiprivate1
[00:33] <Riddell> stefan`: pastebin   apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace
[00:34] <stefan`> Riddel: sorry, i cannot pastebin - i have no browser, no mouse :D
[00:34] <stefan`> i try the ccommand nevertheless
[00:35] <yofel> there's pastebinit for the command line
[00:35] <stefan`> installed says none, candidate is ppa2 4.5.80, and i have three versions in the table
[00:36] <stefan`> yofel: thanks :)
[00:37] <stefan`> Riddel: http://pastebin.com/vdruGVCp
[00:37] <stefan`> sorry, s/Riddel/Riddell
[00:38] <Riddell> stefan`: hmm, well I'm not sure why it would think libakonadiprivate1 wants to be installed
[00:38] <Riddell> stefan`: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[00:40] <stefan`> no, i can't - trying to put that on pastebin. just a sec
[00:42] <stefan`> Riddell: pastebin.com/0a9ZuXdE
[00:42] <stefan`> Riddell: this is what happens when i try to install kubuntu-desktop
[00:43] <Riddell> stefan`: what command did you use for that?
[00:43] <stefan`> aptitude
[00:44] <stefan`> i might have one issue - kdepim-runtime comes from the experimental ppa - its 4.5-beta3 ppa1
[00:44] <stefan`> could that be a problem?
[00:44] <Riddell> it could
[00:44] <stefan`> Riddell: for kubuntu-desktop i tried apt-get as well
[00:44] <Riddell> but why would it want to do that?
[00:44] <stefan`> ;) waht?
[00:44] <stefan`> i mean, do what?
[00:46] <Riddell> stefan`: ah, yes that's the problem
[00:46] <stefan`> Riddell: ohhhh :) removing the experimental ppa indeed helped
[00:46] <Riddell> it won't work with the pim beta in experimental
[00:46] <Riddell> you'll need to remove that first
[00:46] <Riddell> the other problem is plasma-widget-quickaccess
[00:46] <Riddell> maybe I can upload that to the PPA
[00:46] <stefan`> Riddell: wonderful. thanks for the help.
[00:47] <Riddell> stefan`: thanks for testing, let us know if it works after that
[00:50] <stefan`> Riddell: at least it installs the rest of the packages now
[00:52] <stefan`> Riddell: looks very good - i'll be back in a minute. hopefully from within kde ;)
[00:55] <stefan`> Riddell: it works. thanks a lot for the apckages to all of you
[00:56] <Riddell> stefan`: awooga, thanks again for testing
[01:08] <claydoh> Riddell: t machines up and running 4.6, only had to force-overwrite kdebase-runtime
[01:09] <ScottK> claydoh: What specifically?
[01:10]  * yofel does one last 4.6 maverick upgrade test before going to bed
[01:12] <claydoh> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538506/
[01:13] <ScottK> I fixed that one in Natty already.
[01:13] <ScottK> Someone should fix the PPA.
[01:14] <claydoh> both my ancient laptop and my dual core 64bit htpc box got this
[01:15] <yofel> PPA is updated, but not built/published yet
[01:15] <ScottK> Cool.
[01:16] <yofel> erm, huh? this was me setting up a maverick chroot, installing kubuntu-desktop, kde-full and the debug packages and then adding staging ppa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538507/
[01:16] <yofel> ok, kdebase-runtime comes from i386 not being built yet
[01:16] <ScottK> yofel: It's not suprising with kde-full though.
[01:17] <ScottK> There will be things we didn't rebuild for 4.6 yet.
[01:17] <yofel> yeah, but I didn't expect it to break this bad
[01:17] <ScottK> I'm in the middle of doing a maverick -> natty upgrade in a chroot and it's going ~fine.
[01:18] <ScottK> Try it with apt-get.
[01:19] <yofel> that indeed gives a much saner picture http://paste.ubuntu.com/538512/
[01:20] <Riddell> yofel: am testing kdevelop now, ok if I move to updates and announce if it's all good?
[01:20] <ScottK> My advice on aptitude is just stay away.
[01:21] <ScottK> Riddell: How do you feel about another runtime upload to fix file overwrites?
[01:21] <yofel> Riddell: fine with me, should I copy them somewhere so you can copy them or do you want to re-upload?
[01:21] <Riddell> yofel: hmm, you build kdevelop against kde from updates?
[01:22] <yofel> Riddell: I did
[01:22] <Riddell> ScottK: I'm all for fixing things
[01:22] <ScottK> OK.
[01:22] <ScottK> Mind if I fix hal at the same time?
[01:22] <Riddell> ScottK: go ahead
[01:22] <ScottK> OK
[01:23] <Riddell> ScottK: will you do maverick as well as natty?
[01:23] <ScottK> Riddell: Probably not.
[01:23] <ScottK> PPA uploads for Kubuntu make my head hurt.
[01:24] <ScottK> yofel: The apt-get answer looks pretty much like what you want.
[01:28] <claydoh> arr everytime I see 'natty' i read 'nasty' I hope that doesn't jinx anything
[01:44] <Riddell> hmm well launchpad is down
[01:44] <Riddell> guess that means it's time for bed
[01:48] <ScottK> yofel: ~12 hours ago you reported file overwrite problems with /kdebase-runtime-dbg.  Did you report that on LP and what bug number was it?
[01:48] <yofel> ScottK: I fixed that myself already
[01:49] <ScottK> yofel: Fix and uploaded to Natty?
[01:50] <yofel> yes https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/683132 - but launchpad's down
[01:56] <ScottK> yofel: Do the non-debug versions of those files conflict too?
[01:56]  * ScottK checks
[01:57] <ScottK> yep
[02:03] <yofel> sorry, forgot to check that
[02:09] <yofel> well, the update on my last non-4.6 natty pc didn't give any kdebase related error though, what I did get was:
[02:09] <yofel> pkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-dbg_4%3a4.5.80-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[02:09] <yofel>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/okteta', which is also in package kdeutils-dbg 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1
[02:09] <yofel> which was the only thing that failed
[02:09]  * yofel is off to bed
[02:10] <ScottK> Acutally it was gotten already.
[02:10] <ScottK> We should fix that one then.
[02:11] <ScottK> yofel: You can give me a debdiff to upload one LP is back up or I'll sort it out.
[02:11] <yofel> you sort it out or it'll have to wait, I need sleep
[02:14] <ScottK> Good night.
[02:30] <ScottK> Ohhh.  upload.ubuntu.com is either in the good data center or the bad one is fixed.
[09:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: ping
[10:22] <apachelogger> it is amazing how laggy my system gets with effects turned on
[10:32] <Riddell> apachelogger: hola
[10:34] <apachelogger> Riddell: did someone do phonon-vlc already?
[10:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: also 4.6 in staging wants ot remov eall sorts of stuff and install all sorts of useless stuff (e.g. synaptic)
[10:39] <apachelogger>   Removing software-properties-kde:i386 rather than change python-kde4:i386
[10:39] <apachelogger> all very scary
[10:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: no nobody has had time to look at phonon-vlc
[10:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: version 0.3.1 coming probably today
[10:42] <Riddell> good thing we didn't have time then :)
[10:42] <apachelogger> well
[10:42] <apachelogger> the changes are fixing minor problems, of which none would have affected us anyway
[10:43] <apachelogger> just wanted to know if someone stubmled upon anything kubuntu specific ^^
[10:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: oh, seems the staging break comes from missing bindings?
[10:45] <Riddell> I'm recompiling kdebindings now but there shouldn't be a problem with having python-kde4 installed
[10:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: not, it removes it ;)
[10:46] <apachelogger> along with half my akonadi stack
[10:46]  * apachelogger doe snot take kindly to things messing with his perfect akonadi setup :P
[10:51] <Riddell> apachelogger: libakonadiprivate1 got removed, do you have something that depends on that?
[10:52] <hrw> is it normal that nepomuk database takes over 3GB?
[10:58] <apachelogger> hrw: depends on what indexed I suppose
[10:58] <apachelogger> mine is 421M
[10:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: not sure, something is with libakonadiprotocolinternals1 and libakonadiprivate1
[10:59] <Riddell> yes libakonadiprotocolinternals1 is the new one, libakonadiprivate1 the old one
[10:59] <apachelogger> ok
[10:59] <apachelogger>   Holding Back libakonadiprotocolinternals1:i386 rather than change libakonadiprivate1:i386
[11:00] <apachelogger> oh oh oh
[11:00] <apachelogger> I know
[11:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: kdepim4.6 beta is built with akonadiprivate1
[11:00] <Riddell> oh well, there's your problem then
[11:00] <apachelogger> maybe it should provides: libakonadiprivate1?
[11:01] <Riddell> it can't, libakonadiprivate.so is gone
[11:02] <apachelogger> oh
[11:02] <apachelogger> no goody I suppose
[11:02]  * apachelogger will have to switch to kdepim trunk
[11:05] <hrw> apachelogger: one of nepomuk things to do is caching informations of files in indexed filesystems - right?
[11:05] <apachelogger> yes
[11:05]  * hrw needs to reboot ;(
[11:06] <hrw> it is really hard to keep 4 weeks machine working with all updates
[11:06] <hrw> nepomuk took 1GB ram, chromium another one, plasma-desktop stopped refreshing
[11:06] <hrw> etc
 steveire_: is there ever going to be a new pim beta?
[11:55] <steveire_> I don't understand. You mean 4.6?
[11:55] <steveire_> Should be with the rest of the SC
[11:56] <Riddell> bulldog98 is packaging it
[11:56] <Riddell> but it'll go into experimental not beta
[11:57] <apachelogger> oh
[11:57] <apachelogger> ah
[11:57] <apachelogger> that solves my problem then, I suppose
[12:36] <apachelogger> Nightrose, Mamarok, markey: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/broadcast.jpg <-- apachelogger's artwork of the day
[12:36] <Mamarok> apachelogger: lol
[12:41] <apachelogger> wordpress in rekonq is so incredibly slow...
[12:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^^^^^
[12:45] <markey> apachelogger: heh
[12:45] <markey> a masterpiece
[12:45] <markey> Nuno would be proud of you
[12:46] <apachelogger> totally
[12:46] <markey> apachelogger: now get that Phonon release done, chop chop, Dirty Harry!
[12:46]  * apachelogger is wondering when kwin will get more invovled snow effects
[12:46] <apachelogger> markey: waiting for master jb to give me the ok
[12:47] <markey> the master Jim Beam is not Bono from U2 :p
[12:47] <markey> just do it
[12:47] <markey> you are the boss in Phonon
[12:47] <markey> not him
[12:47] <apachelogger> you said that yesterday too
[12:47] <apachelogger> and it did not work :P
[12:47] <markey> yeah, Jim Beam can be rather persistant
[12:47] <apachelogger> I can only use one backend at a time to see what is broken :P
[12:48] <apachelogger> main reason why I am all for burning all backends other than vlc and gst
[12:50] <markey> yeah
[12:51] <markey> no wait!
[12:51] <markey> you got it all wrong
[12:51] <markey> let's create 20 more backends
[12:51] <markey> all broken in different ways
[12:51] <markey> with obscure libraries
[12:51] <markey> and assembler Spaghetti code
[12:51] <markey> good plan?
[12:51] <rgreening> mmm spaghetti
[12:52] <markey> then we will be the heroes of KDE
[12:52] <markey> the guys who finally borked  it all
[12:53] <Nightrose> apachelogger: beautiful! :D
[12:53] <apachelogger> markey: I shall write my own mm framework in asm!!!
[12:54] <apachelogger> NCommander will then port it to arm
[12:54] <markey> you are teh suparstar haxx0r
[12:54] <apachelogger> yes, I know
[12:54] <markey> apachelogger: can you throw in TCL/TK as dependency?
[12:54] <markey> even if it's not used
[12:54] <markey> and M4
[12:55] <releaselogger> markey: sure, why not
[12:57] <shadeslayer> oh
[12:57] <shadeslayer> another minion
[12:57] <shadeslayer> kronos: want to become a minion?
[12:57] <shadeslayer> since your free till January etc
[12:57] <kronos> shadeslayer: whats that ??
[12:57] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[12:57] <kronos> shadeslayer: yeah..
[12:57] <shadeslayer> releaselogger: explain ..... :P
[12:58] <shadeslayer> also
[12:58] <shadeslayer> releaselogger: its wordpress's fault :D
[12:58] <releaselogger> berrumba
[13:00] <shadeslayer> kronos: and, get a *real* irc client
[13:00] <kronos> shadeslayer: k.. just got out from Hot Pursuit.. gotta restart ..
[13:00] <kronos> shadeslayer: brb
[13:00] <shadeslayer> ok
[13:01] <releaselogger> real irc client: darth vader
[13:02] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[13:02] <shadeslayer> we need to get him into ubuntu repos
[13:02] <kronos> shadeslayer, and im back ..
[13:02] <releaselogger> we need more fancy animations
[13:02] <releaselogger> !!!
[13:02] <shadeslayer> along with a "Property of Kubuntu" sticker on him
[13:03] <releaselogger> I shall make more animations
[13:03] <shadeslayer> more QML ftw!!
[13:03] <releaselogger> I shall be the overlord of animations
[13:03] <releaselogger> shadeslayer: that aint got nothing to do with flipping qml
[13:03] <shadeslayer> kronos: so as a minion, you work under releaselogger, who becomes your master
[13:03] <shadeslayer> along with a master of animation ....
[13:03] <kronos> shadeslayer, hmmm ...
[13:03] <shadeslayer> releaselogger: yes, but QML has nice animations...
[13:04] <releaselogger> supreme apachelogger for you
[13:04] <shadeslayer> kronos: so first up, do you have a GPG key and SSH key in  Launchpad?
[13:04] <kronos> releaselogger, done that...
[13:04] <kronos> shadeslayer, yeah .. have those
[13:05] <shadeslayer> kronos: next up is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[13:05] <shadeslayer> so what you see there is a list of stuff that needs to be packaged
[13:06] <kronos> shadeslayer, hmmm... ok ..
[13:06] <shadeslayer> read the plan carefully...
[13:06] <shadeslayer> kronos: err.. have you read the packaging guide?
[13:06]  * shadeslayer remembers teaching kronos some basic packaging earlier....
[13:07] <kronos> shadeslayer, trying to recall stuff ..
[13:07] <kronos> shadeslayer, will read it again ..
[13:07] <shadeslayer> please do :)
[13:07] <shadeslayer> so id suggest starting with kdetoys 4.5.4
[13:08] <shadeslayer> kronos: edit the wiki and put your name in there against kdetoys
[13:12] <shadeslayer> kronos: download http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kdetoys-4.5.4.tar.bz2
[13:13] <kronos> shadeslayer, getting a 403 forbidden on that address
[13:13] <shadeslayer> oh my
[13:14] <shadeslayer> fixed
[13:15] <shadeslayer> kronos: after you download that, download the kdetoys packaging from https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[13:16] <shadeslayer> use dget on the dsc
[13:17] <shadeslayer> after thats done, move the debian folder over to the new unpacked sources, test build using pdebuild and poke someone over here :D
[13:17] <shadeslayer> ( your building for maverick ofcourse )
[13:18] <shadeslayer> dantti: lol... kde 4.6 upgrade wants to remove kpk :P
[13:18] <kronos> shadeslayer, ok..i'll get back after that..
[13:18] <shadeslayer> kronos: i haz to go .... im sure someone here will help you out if you have problems
[13:18] <shadeslayer> or call me.... :P
[13:18] <kronos> shadeslayer, ya..
[13:19] <shadeslayer> cya later :)
[13:19] <kronos> shadeslayer, later :)
[13:52] <yofel> o/
[13:52] <Riddell> hi yofel
[13:57] <Riddell> hmm, 7 compiles going
[13:58] <Riddell> busy busy
[14:10] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1202599 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationBackend.cpp ApplicationWindow.cpp) (log message trimmed)
[14:10] <CIA-24> Get all of our WorkerEvent signals from the ApplicationBackend. This way we can
[14:10] <CIA-24> reload only when the AppBackend says to. This prevents the reload occurring
[14:13] <yofel> ouch, I just tried to test-upgrade maverick to 4.6 in a chroot and got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538657/ :S
[14:19] <Riddell> yofel: hmm, those pesky overwrite errors :(
[14:24] <dantti_work> I'm trying to install doxygen but it only shows doxygen-gui which depends on doxygen, did it change it's name?
[14:29] <yofel> some apt-get install -f and dpkg -i/r later the upgrade finished, now let's go through the log...
[14:31] <Riddell> dantti_work: there's a doxygen package with a doxygen binary in 10.10
[14:39] <yofel> so in the end I got 10 different overwrites: http://paste.ubuntu.com/538672/ (I got the last one too for natty, but LP was down then)
[14:40] <Riddell> wibble
[14:44] <yofel> Riddell: should I file bugs for them or just fix them myself? I think natty should get the replaces too
[14:45] <apachelogger> Nightrose: we could have a phonon panel discussion at fosdem? ^^
[14:46] <yofel> I'll fix them myself, the first 7 are all in kdebase-workspace..
[14:47] <Riddell> yofel: just fix them, in natty then maverick
[14:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you speak autotools?
[14:48] <NCommander> apachelogger: that's E-IVL
[14:48] <apachelogger> NCommander: can you join #zeitgeist and tell them
[14:49]  * apachelogger just suggested cmake, for it is also usable by people without mental condition :P
[14:49] <NCommander> apachelogger: uhhh
[14:49] <steveire_> I upgraded my laptop to 10.10. I had to do the apparmour config change before I could start Akonadi as my development user.  Will it be possible to make that unnecessary at some stage?
[15:08] <ScottK> steveire_: What change?
[15:10] <steveire_> ScottK: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting#Apparmor
[15:13] <ScottK> steveire_: That lists more than one thing.  Which one did you get?
[15:16] <steveire_> I always have to do this: sudo aa-complain mysqld
[15:16] <steveire_> sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload
[15:16] <yofel> well yeah, since kubuntu uses mysqld-akonadi, not mysqld
[15:17] <yofel> I don't know what's the difference though...
[15:17] <ScottK> steveire_: So the problem is that as your development user you use mysqld and not our mysqld-akonadi and the apparmor profile doesn't allow this?
[15:21] <steveire_> I don't know enough about mysql/apparmour/etc to know, but presumably, yes.
[15:22] <steveire_> This is a self complied akonadi, so presumably that's using my system mysqld instead of the mysqld-akonadi you have?
[15:22] <steveire_> What is mysqld-akonadi for?
[15:26] <ScottK> IIRC we use that instead of the regular one in order to minimize the amount of mysql that gets pulled onto desktop systems.
[15:26] <ScottK> Riddell: Do you recall?
[15:27] <kronos> apachelogger, built kdetoys 4.5.4 locally ... buildlog is at http://pastebin.com/wEP4u5iM need to upload to kubuntu-ninjas.
[15:31] <apachelogger> kronos: you want to read https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2010-July/004549.html especially a)
[15:32] <apachelogger> kronos: also checkout the pbuilder hooks section at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment
[15:32] <apachelogger> kronos: currently you are missing a list-missing output, which means we cannot be sure that a new file is not packaged
[15:33] <apachelogger> or rather
[15:33] <apachelogger> not not packaged
[15:34] <ScottK> steveire_: I talked with our security person that does most of the apparmor work and he doesn't see a way to make our mysqld profile work for you without leaving it too unconfined for server users (I think this is why we have the unconfined mysqld-akonadi ).
[15:34] <ScottK> So it's a case of conflicting requirements.
[15:39] <ScottK> steveire_: If you are interested in a slightly more general solution than you have now, you might want to join #ubuntu-hardened.  jdstrand would be glad to review your kernel logs and help you come up with a modified profile for /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.mysqld to solve it once and for all.
[15:39] <ScottK> This could also be put on kde.org so others could avoid the problem too.
[15:44] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1202614 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (5 files in 2 dirs) Feedback for pressing the install/remove button. Still has some kinks to work out.
[15:44] <dantti_work> Riddell: funny this package does not show here :P
[15:48] <kronos> apachelogger, can i remove the D20icecc hook .. it is causing an error while building .
[15:49] <apachelogger> yes we can!
[15:49] <apachelogger> eh
[15:49] <apachelogger> yes you can!
[15:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, could you take a look at http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/4320/ to check if everything is ok? :-)
[15:53] <rbelem> agateau, ^ :-)
[16:00] <Riddell> steveire_: /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi is a copy of the /usr/sbin/mysqld binary, it is so we can give it a different more permissive apparmour profile
[16:02] <steveire_> I see. Do you patch the akonadi server to use that one instead of mysqld?
[16:02] <steveire_> There might be scope for us adding something to akonadi to make the situation better
[16:04] <Riddell> steveire_: we build with  DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS += -DMYSQLD_EXECUTABLE=/usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi
[16:07] <steveire_> I see.
[16:08] <steveire_> I wonder if we can make that come from a desktop file instead or something so that all akonadiis started will use the right mysqld, even self built ones
[16:08] <Riddell> well then all akonadis would have to know to find that desktop file even if that desktop file was not in their path
[16:09] <Riddell> I guess it could be a config file in /etc/kde4
[16:10] <yofel> Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdeartwork/4.5.80ubuntu4/+merge/42384 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase/4.5.80ubuntu2/+merge/42385 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase-workspace/4.5.80ubuntu4/+merge/42383
[16:11] <Riddell> yofel: awesomeage
[16:12] <skfin> Somebody pinged sabdfl's brains after unity and wayland, found nothing :)
[16:13] <skfin> Well, actually, I shouldn't comment on that. I havent been using ubuntu for a while
[16:13] <skfin> 2 years or something
[16:16] <yofel> Riddell: ScottK did the sdk error, just didn't upload yet
[16:16] <ScottK> yofel: I think I fixed that one last night in Natty.  Didn't do Maverick.
[16:16] <Riddell> skfin: eh?
[16:17] <yofel> ScottK: I see it in bzr, but not in natty-changes
[16:18] <skfin> Riddell: Don't care, I feel bit dizzy
[16:18] <ScottK> yofel: I uploaded it, but it was while LP was having problems.  Sounds like the upload got eaten.  I'll push it again.
[16:18] <yofel> heh
[16:18] <ScottK> Done
[16:19] <skfin> Riddell: Mostly that I don't personally like the idea of unity
[16:19] <skfin> Wayland is not that bad, it just needs quite much work
[16:20] <Riddell> skfin: well do try to remain respectful
[16:20] <skfin> Riddell: Yeah, as I said, I shouldn't event comment on that since I havent use gnome for a very long time
[16:21] <ScottK> Riddell: I know it's not your archive day, but would you please do the backports for Karmic/Lucid/Maverick in Bug #683710?  I'll have a newer clamav as soon as the alpha 1 freeze is over and I want to get this backported first.
[16:21] <skfin> But this is ultimate-offtopic.
[16:22] <skfin> /s/event/even
[16:22] <kronos> apachelogger, new build log http://pastebin.com/8p8F7mmC ...
[16:29] <Riddell> ScottK: what was that?
[16:29] <ScottK> Riddell: clamav backport.
[16:29] <ScottK> Just needs the natty clamav backported to karmic/lucid/maverick using the magic script.
[16:29] <ScottK> I'll do hardy and dapper since they need uploads.
[16:32] <Riddell> ok, poke me in an hour if I haven't got to it
[16:33] <Riddell> kronos: how did you get on with kdetoys?
[16:37] <bulldog98> Riddell: I only need one file to package usr/bin/kincidenceeditor
[16:39] <yofel> Riddell: can I do kdeutils 4.5.4? Someone'll have to get me the tar though
[16:45] <Riddell> yofel: yes do
[16:46] <Riddell> yofel: what's your ssh key?
[16:46] <bulldog98> Riddell: ping
[16:47] <Riddell> hi bulldog98
[16:47] <yofel> Riddell: take the first one https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+sshkeys
[16:47] <kronos> apachelogger, what should be done about the list-missing output ?
[16:48] <bulldog98> hi Riddell, I am doing a test build and if that has no errors, I’ll commit the code to a branch
[16:49] <Riddell> bulldog98: great
[16:49] <Riddell> yofel<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:50] <bulldog98> Riddell: but I have to warn you, I added some packages and you have to check my spelling and the contence of the description ^^
[16:51] <yofel> Riddell: thanks
[16:56] <rgreening> is it just my system or did latest updates take kwin compositing for a dump down slow lane?
[16:56] <yofel> rgreening: if you want to say that kwin 4.5.80 is slow as hell then I agree
[16:57] <rgreening> wobbly windows don't wobble
[16:57] <rgreening> and my load avg is >2
[16:57] <rgreening> something is terribly rong
[16:58] <ScottK> It's a beta ....
[16:58] <rgreening> hmmm... how many instances of mepomuk should be running?
[16:58] <ScottK> None IMO.
[16:58] <rgreening> lol. if one has it enabled, how many
[16:58] <rgreening> I see many
[16:59] <yofel> I have 3 instances of nepomukservicestup, with nepomuk on, strigi off
[16:59] <ScottK> Riddell: Looks like there's a chance we may be able to do away with mysqld-akonadi.  jdstrand and steveire_ are going to look into it.
[16:59] <yofel> or more accurate:http://paste.ubuntu.com/538715/
[17:02] <rgreening> ok, it's not nepomuk related. kwin was behaving fine (apparantly) last night, but today, updates seem to have caused load issue and lag in compositing. Maybe kernel related as there was a kernel update. not sure though.
[17:06] <Riddell> kronos: looks like you got kdetoys building fine
[17:06] <Riddell> kronos: can you send me the source package files?
[17:07] <kronos> Riddell, yeah.. how do i send them ?
[17:07] <Riddell> kronos: do you have a web server you can put them on?  if not I can give you access to a server if you have an ssh key
[17:08] <kronos> Riddell, i have an ssh key .. no web server ..
[17:08] <kronos> Riddell, can we use the one on my launchpad profile https://launchpad.net/~bhargav
[17:12] <Riddell> kronos: scp <files><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:13] <kronos> Riddell, should i upload all the files in the pbuilder/result folder ?
[17:13] <maco> not the debs
[17:14] <maco> just need the src, orig, and diff/debian.gz
[17:14] <apachelogger> kronos: with the hooks you should get that automagically
[17:19] <kronos> Riddell, copied ..
[17:21] <Riddell> lovely, thanks kronos
[17:22] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks for the backports.
[17:22] <kronos> Riddell, ty .. :)
[17:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: is 4.6 ready in staging ppa?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> like... is it good to install?
[17:26] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1202629 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationBackend.cpp The worker state is populated when a transaction successfully begins. This meant that the failed transaction would not be removed from the queue if the first transaction done failed.
[17:27] <yofel> shadeslayer: not really, I got 10 overwrite errors on my last upgrade test
[17:28] <shadeslayer> yofel: apart from those :P
[17:28] <yofel> Riddell: can you look at my merges or can I upload to staging anyway?
[17:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: there's some overwrite errors still and kdebindings being done
[17:28] <yofel> shadeslayer: apart from those it was fine I think
[17:28] <Riddell> kronos: kdetoys uploaded, many thanks
[17:29] <Riddell> yofel: you need to give me the URLs again
[17:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: Riddell  i have http://pastebin.ca/2007854
[17:29] <yofel> Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdeartwork/4.5.80ubuntu4/+merge/42384 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase/4.5.80ubuntu2/+merge/42385 https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase-workspace/4.5.80ubuntu4/+merge/42383
[17:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: do you have kdepim 4.6 beta installed?
[17:29] <shadeslayer> hmm.. i dont remember...
[17:30] <shadeslayer> yep
[17:30] <shadeslayer> ah.. thats why it wants to remove them
[17:33] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1202630 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (4 files in 3 dirs) Install/remove button feedback improvements in the App Details Widget too.
[17:33] <apachelogger> kronos: the hooks take care of that
[17:33] <apachelogger> from your last log...
[17:34] <apachelogger> # list-missing files result:
[17:34] <apachelogger> -./usr/share/man/man6/amor.6
[17:34] <apachelogger> I: user script /var/cache/pbuilder/build//19221/tmp/hooks/B10list-missing finished
[17:34] <apachelogger> however manpages yield false positives, so all files are installed :)
[17:34] <kronos> apachelogger, hmm.. Riddell saw that .. i sent him the source files..
[17:35] <kronos> apachelogger, mission accomplished.. :)
[17:35] <apachelogger> terrific
[17:35]  * shadeslayer so hates man pages after UDS-N
[17:35] <yofel> shadeslayer: huh?
[17:35] <shadeslayer> yofel: dont ask....
[17:36] <apachelogger> and now for something completely different... a man with a manpage up his nose
[17:37] <Riddell> yofel: merges all look good
[17:38] <Riddell> yofel: go ahead and upload to staging
[17:39] <yofel> thanks
[17:54] <Riddell> yofel: I've merged in your overwrites changes to bzr packaging branches for natty, can't upload due to alpha 1 freeze, remind me to upload after
[17:55] <yofel> will do
[17:56] <kronos> apachelogger, anything else i could do ..
[17:57] <Riddell> kronos: review the current status of builds in kubuntu-ppa/staging and kubuntu-ninjas
[17:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kde pim 4.6 beta won't work with our kde sc 4.6 beta packages
[17:58] <bulldog98> Riddell: why?
[17:58] <Riddell> you'll need to downgrade or not install 4.6 beta (you could try 4.5.4 testing instead)
[17:59] <Riddell> bulldog98: I mean the old old kde pim 4.6 beta packages
[17:59] <bulldog98> ok
[18:00] <ScottK> Riddell: Could that be solved by rebuilding the pim packages against the new akonadi/pimlibs?
[18:01] <Riddell> ScottK: we have rebuild the 4.4 pim packages against the new akonadi but that doesn't help people who have 4.6-beta which is a larger version number
[18:01] <Riddell> they'll need to wait for bulldog98's new kde pim 4.6 beta packages
[18:01] <Riddell> or downgrade
[18:01] <ScottK> I see.
[18:01]  * bulldog98 is uploading the kdepim-packaging diff
[18:02] <bulldog98> Riddell: ^^
[18:03] <Riddell> bulldog98: uploading to where?
[18:03] <bulldog98> a new branch
[18:03] <bulldog98> Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kdepim/ubuntu-4.6
[18:04]  * bulldog98 now needs to go to bed and will finish that stuff tomorrow evening or afternoon
[18:04] <Riddell> thanks bulldog98
[18:05]  * bulldog98 forgot to commit
[18:05] <CIA-24> [muon] jmthomas * 1202638 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (6 files in 2 dirs) Switch the progressbar back to the action button when a transaction is cancelled via not authorizing/canceling at the authorization screen
[18:05] <crysknife> apachelogger: I'm currently packaging the phonon-backend-vlc-0.3.1 from the git tag and I see that there is still the version number 0.2.0 in ../vlc/vlc.desktop
[18:06] <crysknife> any plans to change this upstream?
[18:10] <Riddell> kronos: there's also plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets needing done, it's an interesting package
[18:10] <Riddell> crysknife: packaging for Kubuntu?
[18:11] <crysknife> Riddel: my maverick PPA
[18:12] <Riddell> crysknife: it would be good to have it in the main kubuntu archive too
[18:14] <kronos> Riddell, where can i get the source tarball for plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets ?
[18:15] <apachelogger> crysknife: thy shall not package from git
[18:15] <Riddell> kronos: it's made by running a rule in  debian/rules  in the packaging
[18:15] <Riddell> it's made from part of another package
[18:16] <crysknife> Riddel: indeed :)  any volunteers ... I'm just starting packaging
[18:17] <Riddell> crysknife: well if you're packaging it for your PPA then it just needs testing to check it builds in natty too
[18:17] <Riddell> crysknife: if you want the packaging reviewed we'd be very happy to do that
[18:17] <apachelogger> Mamarok: what does one have to do to get a new version entry for phonon on bugs.kde.org?
[18:18] <crysknife> apachelogger: what's your suggestion?
[18:19] <apachelogger> using the tarball
[18:19] <apachelogger> also it is not much of a suggestion but an upstream that you can call it 0.3.1
[18:19] <crysknife> where to find?
[18:19] <apachelogger> s/upstream/upstream requirement
[18:19] <apachelogger> crysknife: ftp.kde.org
[18:19] <crysknife> thanks
[18:21] <kronos> Riddell, the debian/rules tries to export it from the anonsvn.kde.org server .. im getting a url does not exist.
[18:22] <Riddell> kronos: so you can't checkout anything from anonsvn.kde.org ?
[18:22] <kronos> never tried..
[18:23] <Mamarok> apachelogger: tell me what version you want, I can change it
[18:23] <apachelogger> Mamarok: 4.4.3
[18:23] <crysknife> apachelogger: found it, that makes things easier
[18:23] <Mamarok> but you can only add versions for phonon, not for backends
[18:23] <Mamarok> OK, will change now
[18:24] <apachelogger> yeah, that is silly on its own, but better 4.4.3 than 4.4.2 :)
[18:24] <apachelogger> silly bugzilla -.-
[18:24] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ping
[18:26] <kronos> Riddell, can it be because of the migration to git thingy ..
[18:28] <apachelogger> kronos: what you trying to do?
[18:28] <Riddell> kronos: no I think some anonsvn servers are flakey
[18:28] <Mamarok> apachelogger: done
[18:28] <kronos> apachelogger, plasma-scriptingengine-googlegadgets
[18:28] <apachelogger> Mamarok: merci beaucoup
[18:29] <kronos> *scriptengine .
[18:29] <apachelogger> kronos: oh, for maverick?
[18:29] <kronos> apachelogger, yup
[18:30] <apachelogger> eh
[18:30] <Mamarok> apachelogger: what will be the next version after 4.4.3, 4.4.4 or 4.5?
[18:31] <apachelogger> dunno yet
[18:31] <apachelogger> preferrably 4.5 with loads of features to kill qtmm dead
[18:31] <Mamarok> yep, that would be great
[18:31] <apachelogger> kronos: make -f debian/rules get-orig-source works fine here?
[18:33] <kronos> apachelogger, that worked ..
[18:33] <apachelogger> kronos: what did you try to do?
[18:34] <apachelogger> or how?
[18:34] <kronos> apachelogger, i tried running the rules script... pretty lame ..
[18:34] <apachelogger> kronos: read the make manual :P
[18:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you too :P
[18:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: pongly
[18:35] <shadeslayer> yeah i read a bit of it on the flight
[18:36] <shadeslayer> not all of it tho
[18:37] <apachelogger> my point exactly
[18:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also I am getting complaints that you are being lazy... why is that?
[18:38] <shadeslayer> not lazy... blame it on exams
[18:38] <apachelogger> dude
[18:38] <apachelogger> you have exams like 90% of the year :P
[18:38] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[18:39] <apachelogger> at some point that excuse is not gonna work no more
[18:39] <shadeslayer> no seriously :P
[18:39] <apachelogger> also you did not read the make manual, so you cannot even appear as if you wre not lazy
[18:40] <apachelogger> if I learned one thing from the manual, it is how to be busy while being lazy
[18:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: when do exams end?
[18:42] <shadeslayer> 6th Jan
[18:42] <apachelogger> hm
[18:42] <apachelogger> hmmmm
[18:42] <apachelogger> that is rather longish
[18:42] <shadeslayer> i know ...
[18:42] <shadeslayer> try telling that to the uni :D
[18:42]  * apachelogger promotes kronos to supreme minion
[18:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you now report to kronos
[18:43] <yofel> lol
[18:43] <shadeslayer> lol :P
[18:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: he has college etc from 3rd Jan
[18:43] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:44] <apachelogger> well
[18:44] <apachelogger> right now one is packaging and one is not
[18:45]  * apachelogger is only reflecting this in the rank
[18:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ill try and get some work done ... but im not sure when ill be available .... ill be free during the weekend probably
[18:47] <kronos> shadeslayer, i think is the htc thats not letting u package ... :P
[18:47] <shadeslayer> kronos: nah... i switched it off
[18:47]  * shadeslayer was looking up capacitor values
[18:47] <apachelogger> hm
[18:48] <apachelogger> a phone that is turned off so no one call
[18:48] <shadeslayer> precisely
[18:48] <apachelogger> wise investement :P
[18:48] <shadeslayer> a phone that is turned off so no one call and disturb you ....
[18:48] <apachelogger> for that you turn it to mute
[18:49] <apachelogger> also that does not make much sense if one can distrub you via irc :P
[18:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ill keep checking it every now and then ....
[18:49]  * apachelogger will announce phonon-vlc 0.3.1 supposedly
[18:49] <shadeslayer> thats why i turn it off
[18:49] <shadeslayer> wha
[18:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: turn off irc
[18:49] <shadeslayer> you just announced 0.3 yesterday ....
[18:49] <apachelogger> yeah
[18:49] <apachelogger> well
[18:49] <apachelogger> you know how it is
[18:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: where does freenode have its off switch :P
[18:49] <apachelogger> while I am at the code I might as well make it good
[18:49] <shadeslayer> oftc as well...
[18:50] <apachelogger> changed 740 sloc :P
[18:50] <shadeslayer> in one day? :O
[18:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also, i was hunting for minions at a Open Source Camp...
[18:53] <shadeslayer> so id say that is some work :D
[18:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where are they?
[18:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: kronos and aakshay
[18:55] <apachelogger> hm
[18:55] <apachelogger> seems you were too successful since kronos is now supreme minion :P
[18:55] <ScottK> New minions are something.
[18:55] <apachelogger> one really should not look for people who are better than oneself ^^
[18:55] <shadeslayer> everyone else wanted to hack on android and drupal
[18:55] <ScottK> He should get credit for that.
[18:55] <apachelogger> yeah
[18:55]  * steveire_ still has a lot to do before grantlee 0.1.8
[18:55]  * apachelogger pets shadeslayer
[18:55]  * steveire_ steveire_
[18:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: they will feel silly
[18:56] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[18:56] <apachelogger> once I have rolled out my animations
[18:56] <apachelogger> animations everywhere
[18:56] <shadeslayer> lol :P
[18:56] <apachelogger> I will animate mouse movement
[18:56] <shadeslayer> uh... no more bouncing icons please
[18:56] <apachelogger> it will fade out at one point and fade in at another point
[18:56] <apachelogger> and then blink and stuff
[18:56] <ScottK> Of course dumping them in here for a master like Riddell to have to teach and be distracted from his other important work is not so great.
[18:56] <apachelogger> and then probably starts rotating or something
[18:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, better him than us I'd think ;)
[18:58] <shadeslayer> ScottK: im also teaching both of them over the phone too
[18:58] <ScottK> True, but surely shadeslayer has absorbed some basic information he could have imparted without burdening someone like Riddell.
[18:58] <apachelogger> yes
[18:58] <Riddell> I don't mind being burdened with some teaching, it's something everyone should do
[18:58] <apachelogger> minus points for that
[18:58] <apachelogger> ScottK: but you see, shadeslayer is busy with exams, or so he claims :P
[18:59]  * apachelogger needs to stop being cynical and announce phonon-vlc
[18:59] <ScottK> Right.  I've heard this excuse before.
[18:59] <Riddell> how can shadeslayer be busy with exams?  all the schools are closed because of the snow
[19:00] <Riddell> universities and colleges are all shut down
[19:00] <apachelogger> yeah
[19:00] <shadeslayer> not here they arent
[19:00] <apachelogger> or so you say...
[19:03] <shadeslayer> btw ... where is Lex ...
[19:03] <shadeslayer> not deflecting the topic or anything... but i havent seen him for a long time
[19:04] <Riddell> no, worrying
[19:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: want to e-mail him and check he's ok?
[19:04] <shadeslayer> last time i did, he replied he was on a break...
[19:04] <Riddell> but they was months ago
[19:04] <Riddell> that
[19:04] <shadeslayer> but that was like about... 5 months ago
[19:04] <shadeslayer> yeah
[19:05] <Riddell> ok kdebindings uploaded to staging with suppport packages
[19:05] <Riddell> kdebindings also just entered the archive so hopefully we'll get CD images sometime to test for alpha 1
[19:05]  * Riddell out for food
[19:06]  * shadeslayer finally understands capacitance codes
[19:07]  * apachelogger hates rekonq so much it hurts his brain
[19:08] <apachelogger> ok
[19:08] <apachelogger> screw it
[19:08]  * apachelogger switches to firefox
[19:08] <apachelogger> enough of that crap
[19:08] <apachelogger> kronos: once you are done with packaging foo please ping me, I have awesome research tasks
[19:09] <apachelogger> loads and loads of things to learn about our ISO building process
[19:09] <kronos> apachelogger, as u say ... master .. :P
[19:10] <apachelogger> kronos: it is ubermaster! :P
[19:10] <rgreening> kmail is no longer asking for passphrase to sign e-mails under 4.6
[19:10] <rgreening> worked up till now
[19:11] <shadeslayer> rgreening: does it sign the mail ? because the passphrase is unlocked for some time ....
[19:12] <rgreening> I was always prompted for my passphrase, now I am not and it complains about "Bad Passphrase" shadeslayer
[19:12] <shadeslayer> otoh it could be because of pinentry-qt4
[19:12] <rgreening> and no, it cannot sign
[19:12] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:14] <shadeslayer> no idea apart from that ...
[19:15] <rgreening> shadeslayer: you using natty?
[19:15] <shadeslayer> nope... maverick... and kmail wants to be removed on the 4.6 upgrade
[19:18] <apachelogger> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/phonon-vlc-0-3-rock-solid/
[19:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also, in order to change project name, we need to file a launchpad question, im not sure who has to file it tho, you or me ... since i have never touched that project etc...
[19:19] <apachelogger> you file it
[19:19]  * shadeslayer read that a few mins ago
[19:19] <apachelogger> I post "ack"
[19:19] <apachelogger> the do it
[19:19] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[19:19]  * shadeslayer files question
[19:22]  * apachelogger pings Nightrose
[19:22]  * Nightrose pongs apachelogger
[19:22] <apachelogger> Nightrose: could you RT my phonon vlc dent?
[19:23] <Nightrose> probably :D
[19:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/136250
[19:25] <apachelogger> Nightrose: :*
[19:25] <shadeslayer> now someone needs to add LOSA's as a assignee
[19:26] <shadeslayer> cya later....
[19:26] <shadeslayer> kronos: have fun ... :D
[19:29]  * apachelogger dances with Nightrose to flogging molly's devil's dance floor
[19:30] <apachelogger> now shadeslayer is playing with his phone again
[19:31] <apachelogger> oh right, someone should tell aakshay that I barely am around at 3:11am
[19:31] <apachelogger> and if I were I probably would not be of much use ^^
[19:34] <kronos> apachelogger, correct me if i am wrong... .. for the plasma-----... i first did a dget on an older package ... took the debian folder to a new place .. updated changelog ... got the orig.tar.gz..extracted it and a pdebuild..
[19:34] <apachelogger> sounds about right
[19:35] <apachelogger> kronos: for natty the workflow would be different
[19:35] <apachelogger> kronos: did anyone tell you about bzr packaging yet?
[19:35] <kronos> apachelogger, nah.. not yet..
[19:36] <apachelogger> it is a more flexiable way of packaging we use for core KDE, you surely will come across it not too far in the future ^^
[19:36] <apachelogger> anyhow, with bzr packaging doing a new plasma-scriptengine-gg release is: edit changelog - build source - upload ;)
[19:36] <apachelogger> just in case you wondered why it is so complicated ;)
[19:37] <kronos> hmmm...
[19:39]  * apachelogger is done with phonon-vlc release and starts analyzing data structures
[19:39] <rgreening> shadeslayer: I think its a gpg option changed issue
[19:39] <apachelogger> hm
[19:40]  * apachelogger beings to think that jussi wants us to kill kubotu
[19:40] <jussi> apachelogger: come again?
[19:40] <apachelogger> why else would he repeatedly shoot him
[19:40] <jussi> apachelogger: your autostart script is broken or doesnt exisit
[19:40] <apachelogger> first you loose my beautiful init script to start kubotu and then you restart it all the time :(
[19:41] <apachelogger> jussi: well, did you backup /etc?
[19:41]  * apachelogger is pretty sure it would work if only it were there
[19:41] <jussi> apachelogger: I think so...
[19:41] <apachelogger> whats worst about it is that I do not even remember how exactly that thing worked
[19:41]  * apachelogger probably wrote it after 3 glasses of captain
[19:42] <apachelogger> kubotu: order tea
[19:42]  * kubotu gives apachelogger a nice hot cup of tea.
[19:42] <jussi> :)
[19:42] <kronos> apachelogger, buildlog http://pastebin.com/Me2CxaXq
[19:42] <apachelogger> kubotu: order tea, earl grey, hot for Nightrose
[19:42]  * kubotu is replicating a hot cup of earl grey for captain Nightrose.
[19:43] <apachelogger> kronos: splenedid, can you send me the source?
[19:43] <kronos> apachelogger, how ? no webserver ..
[19:43] <apachelogger> email
[19:43] <apachelogger><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:44] <kronos> roger
[19:44] <apachelogger> kronos: you should hurry up with becoming a kubuntu member, so you get free web space ;)
[19:44] <kronos> apachelogger, im working on that .... and i am on fire today ... :P
[19:45] <apachelogger> ++fire
[19:49] <kronos> apachelogger, sent mail ..
[19:58] <crysknife> apachelogger: I've downloaded the orig tarball of the phonon-vlc backend but if when I run debuild -S in the extracted directory the .changes file doesn't include the tarball anymore. So upload fails. Any idea?
[19:59] <apachelogger> crysknife: you need to make sure that the tarball is named $name_$upstreamversion.orig.tar{gz,bz2}
[19:59] <apachelogger> oh
[19:59] <apachelogger> no
[19:59] <apachelogger> hold on
[19:59]  * apachelogger reads again
[19:59] <crysknife> it is
[19:59] <apachelogger> crysknife: debuild -S -sa
[20:00] <apachelogger> also make sure you revision is appropriate
[20:00] <crysknife> I'll try that
[20:00] <apachelogger> -S only should leave the tar.gz out of the changes if the revision is >1
[20:00] <kronos> apachelogger, anything for me ..
[20:01] <apachelogger> trying to download
[20:01] <apachelogger> silly kmail convers the file names -.-
[20:01] <apachelogger> kronos: do you need a new task?
[20:02] <crysknife> apachelogger: you are right - thanks
[20:02] <kronos> apachelogger, hmmm.... anything that wont take more than an hour ..
[20:03] <apachelogger> hm
[20:03] <apachelogger> seems 4.5.4 is all done :)
[20:03] <apachelogger> kronos: you could just do some reading
[20:04] <apachelogger> or call it a day and have some proper fun ;)
[20:04] <kronos> apachelogger, hmm... that sounds good.. will have some fifa before going to bed..
[20:04] <apachelogger> kronos: or you could read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/About <-- that is theory of the bzr packaging I was talking about
[20:05] <apachelogger> very well
[20:05] <apachelogger> kronos: have fun :)
[20:05] <apachelogger> good work today
[20:05] <kronos> apachelogger, ty :) ..
[20:05] <kronos> cya ..
[20:09] <apachelogger> plasma-scriptengine-googlegadgets 4.5.4 in ninjas
[20:10]  * yofel runs another 4.6 maverick update test
[20:17] <steveire> Has there been any reports of the computer locking while compiling?
[20:17] <steveire> When compiling something big like kdelibs or kdebase My coputer is freezing, but I can still move the mouse
[20:17] <steveire> 10.10
[20:18] <yofel> could be too much swap or memory I/O if you compile with too many jobs, but maverick worked fine for me
[20:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: project renamed, if you would be so kind as to mark the question solved
[20:18]  * yofel gets overwrite errors again AAARGH...
[20:19] <apachelogger> steveire: it is not frozen if you can move the mouse.... ;)
[20:19] <yofel> kdelibs stuff this time...
[20:19] <apachelogger> steveire: with compositing on?
[20:19]  * apachelogger thinks this sounds more window managy than anything else
[20:19] <steveire> Yeah. I think so. I get annoying animations
[20:19] <steveire> I have to do a hard reset to recover
[20:20] <apachelogger> I would turn off the effects and try without them
[20:20] <steveire> Done, thanks
[20:21] <apachelogger> and poke mgraesslin about it, if it improves performance ;)
[20:23] <Quintasan> grr
[20:23] <steveire> Will do.
[20:23]  * steveire goes home to implement tee
[20:23]  * Quintasan can't make his computer to work
[20:23] <Quintasan> -to
[20:24] <yofel> Quintasan: what did you do?
[20:24] <Quintasan> yofel: nothing, same thing, after some time the damn machine becomes unresponsive until I do alt+sysrq+{RSEIB}
[20:25] <yofel> :(
[20:25] <yofel> hurray, I'm down from 10 overwrite errors to 6 -.-
[20:25]  * yofel goes fixing
[20:32]  * rgreening thinks it's because Quintasan forgets to U in the RSEIUB line :)
[20:33] <yofel> and I ususally use REISUB, not RSEIUB
[20:33] <rgreening> yofel: Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Bizzare (Order should probably matter)
[20:34] <yofel> Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring is how I learned it
[20:34] <rgreening> S is Sync, and should be early (IMO)
[20:34] <yofel> well, it probably doesn't matter much if you kill processes before or after sync
[20:35]  * apachelogger wonders what everyone is talking about
[20:35] <rgreening> though, Sync early means better chance your stuff makes it to disk before you finish executing the rest of the commands
[20:35] <rgreening> one doesn't necessarily wait for the other
[20:35] <yofel> apachelogger: how to break Quintasans PC not as bad as he does himself
[20:35] <apachelogger> I see
[20:35] <rgreening> yah, he forgets unmount :)
[20:36] <rgreening> hah
[20:39] <dantti> shadeslayer: well probably kpk would need a recompile for 4.6:P
[21:08] <crysknife> apachelogger: phonon-backend-vlc package has been successfully built but several mediaplayer (e.g. dragon, amarok)  still crash on exit.
[21:09] <crysknife> apachelogger: do you know such problems?
[21:10] <crysknife> apachelogger: Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)
[21:11] <apachelogger> it is in pulseaudio
[21:12] <apachelogger> crysknife: do you want to fix it
[21:12] <apachelogger> (
[21:12] <apachelogger> (requires a SRU)
[21:12] <apachelogger> !sru
[21:12] <apachelogger> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.pulseaudio.scm/2725
[21:14] <yofel> Riddell: I fear packaging needs some more fixup https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdelibs/4.5.80ubuntu3/+merge/42416 https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdebase-workspace/4.5.80ubuntu4_2/+merge/42419 https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kdeartwork/4.5.80ubuntu4_2/+merge/42420
[21:42]  * rbelem is building latest plasma-mobile snapshot
[21:47] <apachelogger> rbelem: n900 instructions...
[21:48] <rbelem> oh!
[21:48] <rbelem> just one min
[21:49] <ScottK> Riddell, et al: New Kubuntu images need testing for Alpha 1.
[22:09] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'm pretty sure you meant world peace, not world piece.
[22:10] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[22:10] <_Groo_> apachelogger: are you there?
[22:10] <apachelogger> I am always somewhere
[22:10] <apachelogger> ScottK: true, where did I write this?
[22:11] <ScottK> apachelogger: Your phonon + VLC blog post.
[22:11] <_Groo_> ScottK: smae thing
[22:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: ah, cheers
[22:11] <apachelogger> fixed
[22:11] <ScottK> Excellent.
[22:11] <_Groo_> apachelogger: how could you say vlc is stable? is crashing on exit like always
[22:11] <_Groo_> apachelogger: this will piss a lot of ppl :D
[22:11] <ScottK> _Groo_: Just clearing up the mess apachelogger left behind in his rush to be somewhere.
[22:11]  * apachelogger recently has a lot of cases of writing things like that... wonder why that is
[22:11] <apachelogger> _Groo_: no
[22:11] <apachelogger> pulse is
[22:11] <apachelogger> go fix it
[22:11] <apachelogger> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.pulseaudio.scm/2725
[22:12] <apachelogger> there patch
[22:12] <apachelogger> !sru
[22:12] <apachelogger> go for it
[22:12] <_Groo_> apachelogger: so with alsa it works just fine, but crash on exit with pulse?
[22:12] <apachelogger> yes
[22:12] <_Groo_> apachelogger: isnt pulse shipped in 10.10 by default?
[22:12] <apachelogger> cause pulse is a thread mess
[22:12] <_Groo_> apachelogger: yeah im not disagreing with you
[22:12] <apachelogger> despite being not old enough to have an excuse for bad threading
[22:13] <_Groo_> apachelogger: ehehehe touche :D
[22:13]  * apachelogger sees _Groo_ make an SRU for it and is happy
[22:13]  * apachelogger rushes somewhere
[22:13] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i can apply that patch and upload to a ppa with new pulse and vlc included?
[22:13] <apachelogger> no
[22:13] <apachelogger> SRU
[22:13] <_Groo_> apachelogger: is it abi compatible with the one in 10.10?
[22:14] <apachelogger> yes
[22:14]  * _Groo_ doesnt know what a sru is
[22:14] <apachelogger> it only fixes the internal logic
[22:14] <apachelogger> or rather the non-logic
[22:14] <apachelogger> !sru
[22:14] <ScottK> apachelogger: Did you discuss this SRU with crimsun?
[22:14] <apachelogger> bot hates me
[22:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: no, but with the colin, IIRC he even tried to get it done before 10.10, did not quite work out
[22:15] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i hear you did some nasty things to the poor bot
[22:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: Riddell knows all about it AFAIK
[22:15] <apachelogger> _Groo_: no, just see the sru link from above
[22:15] <yofel> _Groo_: that was the other bot
[22:15] <_Groo_> yofel: :D
[22:15] <apachelogger> and jussi did nasty things to that bot...
[22:15] <apachelogger> jussi: any luck with the init script?
[22:16]  * _Groo_ wonders why kubuntu devs sexually abuse all the poor bots that work in this channel
[22:16]  * _Groo_ thinks this could make him a good class suit money :D
[22:16]  * _Groo_ just needs to find an abused bot that is willing to talk
[22:17] <apachelogger> kubotu: config list
[22:17] <kubotu> modules: translator, factoids, lastfm, server, http, remote, twitter, irclog, send, irc, rejoin, greet, nickserv, salut, rss, markov, keyword, plugins, core, poll, google, encoding, auth, log, debug, seen, wheelfortune, host, autoop, wikipedia, chanserv, ri
[22:17] <apachelogger> kubotu: config list markov
[22:17] <kubotu> markov.readonly, markov.delay, markov.max_words, markov.answer_addressed, markov.enabled, markov.ignore, markov.learn_delay, markov.ignore_patterns, markov.probability
[22:17] <_Groo_> apachelogger: gonna check this patch to the current pulse, it it upstream?
[22:17] <apachelogger> kubotu: config get markov.enabled
[22:17] <kubotu> markov.enabled: false
[22:17] <apachelogger> kubotu: config set markov.enabled to true
[22:17] <kubotu> failed to set markov.enabled: to true does not match either 'true' or 'false', and it's not an integer either
[22:17] <apachelogger> kubotu: config set markov.enabled true
[22:17] <kubotu> okay
[22:17] <rbelem> apachelogger, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/n900
[22:18] <apachelogger> kubotu: config get markov.probability
[22:18] <kubotu> markov.probability: 99
[22:18] <rbelem> apachelogger, i'm still writing
[22:18] <apachelogger> rbelem: thank you
[22:18] <kubotu> that's why i'm still figuring out the debs get populated all at once
[22:18] <kubotu> your debugging Windows Vista?
[22:18] <rbelem> it is not complete
[22:18] <kubotu> not complete yet though. Some are missing
[22:18] <apachelogger> kubotu: how can you tell?
[22:18] <apachelogger> kubotu: config set markov.probability 25
[22:18] <kubotu> okies!
[22:18] <apachelogger> _Groo_: here you have a talking bot
[22:18] <apachelogger> _Groo_: sort of
[22:18] <rbelem> hey kubotu
[22:18] <kubotu> re, rbelem
[22:18] <kubotu> I sort of goof I made crimsun sponsor all of his first package :)
[22:19] <rww> I for one welcome our newly verbose robotic overlords.
[22:19] <kubotu> I for one :P
[22:19] <apachelogger> _Groo_: you'd have to talk to coling in #kde-devel
[22:19]  * apachelogger smacks kubotu
[22:20] <_Groo_> apachelogger: you said in the blog post youve been using it for weeks, are you using alsa, or pulse? and if its pulse, do you have some debs/ppa i can pull to test on my system?
[22:20] <kubotu> maybe i can upgrade my system in order to test
[22:23] <apachelogger> I did not say no such thing
[22:23]  * apachelogger is using gstreamer
[22:24] <_Groo_> apachelogger: oh sorry it was mark that said it
[22:24]  * _Groo_ gonna smack mark :D
[22:24] <kubotu> mark) icon" [Low,Assigned]
[22:25]  * _Groo_ thinks kubotu is losing its marbles
[22:25] <kubotu> kubotu is back up ~/.kde ~/.local and ~/.confg
[22:25] <_Groo_> i just updated to pulse 0.9.23~git-g51cb-0ubuntu1~maverick1
[22:27] <_Groo_> and still crashed :P
[22:27] <_Groo_> apachelogger: the patch wasnt applied upstream?
[22:27] <kubotu> I think we should open it up for the patch was removed
[22:29] <apachelogger> well
[22:29] <apachelogger> it is in the stable-queue
[22:29] <apachelogger> whatever that means
[22:29] <kubotu> i mentioned this earlier in the disabled case so people know that this is going to update packages, and to end, and got the debdiff between the 4 of us thought we were able to start playing along dangit!  :P
[22:39] <rbelem> :-D
[22:41] <ScottK> Anyone around running Natty that can do a little test for me?
[22:42] <_Groo_> ScottK: does it involve explosions and mayhem?
[22:42] <ScottK> _Groo_: Unlikely.
[22:42] <ScottK> Worst case is rebooting and adding/removing some packages I think.
[22:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: boring.. then no :D
[22:43] <_Groo_> ScottK: im not in natty, was just joking
[22:43] <ScottK> _Groo_: Got 4.6?
[22:43] <ScottK> I think that would work.
[22:44] <ScottK> In any case, if someone could try adding upower and udisks and removing hal (this will also remove kubuntu-desktop, but don't panic), restart their system and see how solid works, that would be a big help.
[22:44] <ScottK> In the event of failure, reinstalling hal and removing udisks/upower should get things back.
[22:45]  * yofel goes trying
[22:46] <_Groo_> ScottK: not 4.6 yet.. i helped with the packaging but i lack the courage to try it this week :D
[22:46] <yofel> I can't remove libhal1 though, too much depends on that
[22:47]  * apachelogger ponders not handing in the data structure assignment
[22:48] <ScottK> yofel: Not libhal1, just hal.
[22:48] <yofel> ScottK: 'hal' removed, rebooting
[22:49] <ScottK> Cool.
[22:49] <ScottK> I need to run out for a bit,  I'll check in when I get back.
[22:50] <_Groo_> guys when i get this error, whats exactly is going on? make: *** [debian/stamp-makefile-install] Error 2
[22:58] <yofel> _Groo_: can you pastebin a bit more of that...
[22:58] <yofel> ScottK: nothing that's apparently broken so far
[22:59] <yofel> but nepomukfilewatch taking a lot hdd I/O on every login makes logging in painfully slow :(
[23:00]  * yofel wonders if the KDE folks want to increase SSD manufactures revenue :/
[23:01] <_Groo_> yofel: nvm its was a -j racing condition
[23:01] <_Groo_> yofel: gnome packages dont like to be done in pararel
[23:01] <_Groo_> paralel
[23:01] <_Groo_> yofel: i usually disable him
[23:01] <_Groo_> yofel: its common to all file watchers, recoll has the same problem
[23:05] <ScottK> yofel: Does power management work?
[23:07] <yofel> more or less, powerdevil seems to be running, but I don't have any suspend or hibernate options anymore
[23:08] <yofel> battery and AC connectivity are recognised fine though
[23:12] <yofel> ScottK: it might break your plasma-netbook/desktop autodetection, since you have lshal in startkde line 237
[23:12] <kubotu> break your system better now?
[23:12] <yofel> lol
[23:12] <kubotu> lol - well shows I'm losing my mind cant take it that's a good cartton
[23:12] <ScottK> yofel: Thanks.
[23:13] <yofel> was checking .xsession-errors and that had '/usr/bin/startkde: 244: lshal: not found'
[23:15] <ScottK> yofel: Do you have a cdrom or usb stick to check and see if they still work?
[23:16] <yofel> not at hand, and won't have time to create one today
[23:17] <ScottK> OK
[23:17] <ScottK> Thanks for testing.
[23:22] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ looks like a little startkde fiddling will be needed as well.  man udisks seems to indicate this should be doable.
[23:32] <yofel> good night
[23:36]  * apachelogger transforms into a butterfly
[23:39]  * rbelem grabs a mosquito abatement
[23:40] <rbelem> :-D
[23:40] <rbelem> ping apachelogger
[23:40]  * apachelogger dances hula
[23:41]  * rbelem hits apachelogger with the mosquito abatement
[23:41] <apachelogger> computer says no
[23:41] <rbelem> ;-D
[23:41] <apachelogger> *cough*
[23:42] <rbelem> apachelogger, i added more instructions there
[23:42] <rbelem> a brain dump
[23:43]  * ScottK hopes it didn't hurt.
[23:43] <apachelogger> rbelem: now I only need to get the n900
[23:43]  * apachelogger thinks there is a good chance it will arrive tomorrow
[23:43] <rbelem> apachelogger, tomorrow i will finish the kernel part and then organize the page :-)
[23:44] <rbelem> ScottK, there is smoke over my head :-)
[23:44] <apachelogger> stop smoking then
[23:44] <apachelogger> it is unhealthy, dont you know
[23:44] <rbelem> eheheheh :-D
[23:45]  * rbelem is waiting for his microsd 16gb class 10 that he bought on hong kong via ebay
[23:46] <rbelem> apachelogger, do you have a fast microsd?
[23:52] <apachelogger> rbelem: no
[23:52] <apachelogger> rbelem: should I get one?
[23:52] <rbelem> apachelogger, yup
[23:52] <apachelogger> ok
[23:52] <rbelem> apachelogger, you will need
[23:52] <apachelogger> all them requirements
[23:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, same spec that said above
[23:53] <apachelogger> oh right
[23:53] <apachelogger> at the top
[23:53] <apachelogger> how unnoticable ^^
[23:53] <rbelem> apachelogger, and a good brand
[23:54] <rbelem> kingstone, sandisk are the best afaik
[23:54] <apachelogger> *nod*
[23:54] <rbelem> :-D
[23:55] <apachelogger> "This is to inform you that you have won a prize money £250,000.00 pounds in Yahoo/windows live Lottery"
[23:55] <apachelogger> omg!!!
[23:55] <apachelogger> 250,000 quid, that is like 300000000 euros
[23:55] <apachelogger> holy smokes
[23:55] <apachelogger> oh
[23:55] <apachelogger> dear
[23:55] <apachelogger> you got to be kidding me
[23:55] <apachelogger> markey: do the gst people always spam around like that?
[23:56] <apachelogger> couldnt they write one mail?
[23:58] <rbelem> ehehehehe :-D


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[12:35] <kanashiro[m]> sil2100: do you have time to take a look a at runc/containerd/docker.io SRUs today by any chance? They are in -unapproved
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[14:20] <ahasenack> vorlon: this protobuf revert ("Temporary rollback to disentangle python3 transition from regressing protobuf") broke installation of packages that were rebuilt with the new version already. Should we leave those as is, or upload a no-change rebuild so they rebuild against the current (older) protobuf in lunar?
[14:20] <ahasenack> case in point is gnss-sdr (Depends: libprotobuf32 (>= 3.21.12) but it is not installable), but I'm sure there are others
[14:25] <schopin> ginggs: are you looking into the ceph FTBFS on your python 3.11 upload?
[14:26] <ginggs> schopin: i'm aware of it, but haven't looked into it
[14:27] <schopin> it seems to be tangled with my boost-1.74 ticket, so I'll have a look :)
[14:27] <ginggs> schopin: great!
[14:33] <jbicha> ahasenack: I believe he was hoping that qt6-base would migrate today before bringing protobuf back
[14:33] <ahasenack> yeah, it all depends on how long that will take
[14:33] <ahasenack> I'll wait
[14:58] <ginggs> schopin: i think boost1.74 might only need some retries on armhf, which are already scheduled but just waiting for an armhf runner
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[20:55] <vorlon> ahasenack: the intent is that protobuf be uploaded back to -proposed shortly
[20:55] <vorlon> s/uploaded/copied/
[21:34] <RikMills> and now a queued poppler test holding back qt6 :/
[21:36] <RikMills> oh, passed but not on excuses yet
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[23:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rust-radium [amd64] (lunar-proposed/universe) [1.0.0-1] (no packageset)
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[23:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-ufmt-macros [arm64] (lunar-proposed) [0.3.0-1]
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[23:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-laurel [amd64] (lunar-proposed) [0.5.1~pre2-1]
[23:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-radium [armhf] (lunar-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
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[23:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-ordered-stream [armhf] (lunar-proposed) [0.1.3-1]
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[23:44] <RikMills> qr6 migrating \o/
[23:44] <RikMills> qt6
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[18:44] <Dekkard> just test drove YardW0rkOS
[18:44] <Dekkard> Sweatiest distro ever
[18:45] <jrwren> yeah?!?
[18:45] <jrwren> i just did a search. no hits.
[18:45] <Dekkard> yeah.. wriitten entirely in Gr4ss
[18:45] <jrwren> ah, i see. yur high
[18:45] <Dekkard> uses libmow, lib weedwack and lib rake
[18:46] <Dekkard> not for yardwork.. buzzkill


[23:14] <howudodat> I am trying to get systemd to set certain parameters when my tun0 interface comes up.  so I created /etc/systemd/network/10-tun0.network and put in [match]tun0 with [network]DNS and Gateway parameters as a test, but they are not getting set
[23:29] <Sbur3> I need help with an id card problem.  In eid-voewer, the id card is read correctly and displayed. But on the government web site I use it on every year, it doesn't work.
[23:29] <arraybolt3[m]> Sbur3: What web browser are you using? Also Ubuntu version would be helpful.
[23:30] <Sbur3> Ubuntu 22.04. Web browser Firefox ... recen t
[23:31] <Sbur3> To be exact, Ubuntu Studio 22.04
[23:31] <arraybolt3[m]> Sbur3: Ah, 22.04. Then you might be running into Snap issues. Let me see if I can look up how to fix this.
[23:32] <MMzF> Which ubuntu version would be great for Hp Probook 6570b with i7 3rd gen cpu and 4 gb ram?
[23:32] <Sbur3> But eid-viewer works
[23:33] <Sbur3> CSAM doesn't
[23:33] <arraybolt3[m]> Sbur3: Right, but Firefox might not have permissions to access your ID card.
[23:33] <matsaman> MMzF: the latest one
[23:33] <arraybolt3[m]> MMzF: With 4 GB of RAM, you might get away with Kubuntu, but Lubuntu would be better.
[23:34] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: I think he means flavour.
[23:34] <Sbur3> I installed the add on with Firefox
[23:34] <matsaman> MMzF: if you mean flavor, it doesn't matter at all
[23:35] <arraybolt3[m]> Sbur3: So, Snap packages are each put into their own little sandbox, and can only access hardware that Snap lets them access. So if Snap won't let Firefox read the ID card, no amount of Firefox extensions will fix that. But you may be able to change the Snap permissions, which is what I'm going to look up.
[23:35] <Sbur3> And I did sudo pcscd
[23:35] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: In my experience, Lubuntu worked quite well with 4 GB RAM, while Ubuntu (with the GNOME desktop) was too heavy.
[23:35] <MMzF> [ arraybolt3[m] ]: i'll try to get 8gb ram.
[23:35] <matsaman> arraybolt3[m]: graphics would matter more than ram
[23:36] <MMzF> [ matsaman ]: i want to use webgl on linux so i was trying to figure out what will give more performance
[23:36] <matsaman> GNOME is accelerated by default these days
[23:36] <Sbur3> MMzF: Do you have a virtual machine (virtualbox) to test it on?  Or via livecd?
[23:36] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: Heh, tell that to the multiple times I got thrashed to a total halt. :-(
[23:36] <matsaman> okay
[23:36] <MMzF> i've tested default ubuntu de, mate, cinnamon but see freezes and drop in performance
[23:37] <MMzF> [ Sbur3 ]: i'll go with live usb
[23:37] <matsaman> MMzF: if you want a more stable product, I would suggest Xfce
[23:37] <Sbur3> MMzF: for starters to see if it works
[23:37] <MMzF> but i do have currently installed ubuntu 22.04
[23:37] <matsaman> MMzF: but I'd also suggest Debian over Ubuntu
[23:37] <MMzF> hmm
[23:38] <Sbur3> lspci
[23:39] <MMzF> "(<<Sbur3>>) MMzF: for starters to see if it works"
[23:39] <MMzF> what do you mean?
[23:40] <arraybolt3[m]> Sbur3: It does indeed appear that smart card usage in Snapped Firefox is difficult or impossible. I would recommend backing up your personal data (bookmarks, passwords, etc.) out of Firefox, downloading the Firefox tarball from Mozilla, then uninstalling Firefox snap and installing the tarball.
[23:40] <matsaman> you should be able to install it from a deb, not a snap, without having to use some random upstream tarball
[23:40] <matsaman> if not, definitely find another distro
[23:40] <matsaman> and maybe do that anyway
[23:40] <matsaman> snaps, lawl
[23:41] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: You can install it from a PPA, but PPAs are not guaranteed to be maintained. The upstream Firefox tarball is, and it doesn't appear to act in a way that will totally mangle the package manager AFAIK.
[23:41] <Sbur3> arraybolt3[m]: I will try that.  I don't have anything impactful on Firefox, so it wouldn't be a problem
[23:41] <arraybolt3[m]> Sbur3: I'll find the instructions for installation real quick.
[23:41] <matsaman> anything that isn't installed by the package manager is going to mangle your system at some point
[23:42] <matsaman> arraybolt3[m]: isn't the PPA from the same upstream?
[23:42] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: People compile software all the time, that doesn't kill package managers. You just have to stay out of the deep system directories.
[23:42] <Sbur3> matsaman: How would installing something outside of snap screw something up?
[23:42] <matsaman> arraybolt3[m]: no, it kills your system
[23:42] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: I think so, but I'm not positive, and I think it's a testing PPA or something like that.
[23:42] <matsaman> Sbur3: outside of the package manager I said
[23:43] <arraybolt3[m]> Sbur3: It's complicated - it's not installing it outside of Snap, it's outside of Snap and apt.
[23:43] <Sbur3> matsaman: Ok.  I don't know the nuances of that distinction
[23:43] <matsaman> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04
[23:43] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: I'm sorry, but I've copied scripts into /usr/local/bin and my system is working just fine.
[23:43] <matsaman> Sbur3: snaps, as idiotic as they are, are at least still a package management system
[23:43] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: Maybe look at the Mozilla instructions before you declare it a system killer?
[23:44] <matsaman> Sbur3: the normal Debian, and therefore Ubuntu, package management system is dpkg/apt/.deb files
[23:44] <arraybolt3[m]> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux
[23:44] <matsaman> arraybolt3[m]: pass
[23:44] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: They're just untarring it into /opt, making a symlink to /usr/local/bin, and plopping a desktop file in. I don't see how that's going to ever throw a wrench in the works.
[23:45] <arraybolt3[m]> If they were putting stuff in /usr/bin, or in /lib, or something, then I'd be worried.
[23:45] <matsaman> " Install from your distribution package manager (Recommended)"
[23:45]  * matsaman rolls eyes
[23:45] <arraybolt3[m]> (And if there was a sudo make install involved, then I'd be really worried. But there's not.)
[23:45] <matsaman> why do people link to thinks they haven't read
[23:45] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: Yeah, that's Snap. And it's not working for Sbur3.
[23:46] <matsaman> arraybolt3[m]: it's actually dpkg more than snap, even for Ubuntu, even now
[23:46] <matsaman> they have a whole other entry for snap
[23:46] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: I did read it. Recommended and working can be two very different things. Panasonic recommends Windows for their Toughbooks, does that mean we should keep away from Linux when handling Panasonic stuff?
[23:46] <matsaman> it is their 3rd recommendation
[23:46] <matsaman> you did not read it, and still haven't
[23:46] <matsaman> and I'm done talking with you about it =P
[23:46] <arraybolt3[m]> matsaman: Yes, but Ubuntu made the Snap and the package manager method one and the same thing. You do know that Ubuntu 22.04 packages Firefox as a Snap, right?
[23:47] <arraybolt3[m]> Anyway, no need to prolong the argument. Sorry if I'm being annoying.
[23:51] <Sbur3> matsaman: arraybolt3[m] But I still need to install the add on after replacing the snap firefox by the other one?
[23:52] <arraybolt3[m]> Sbur3: I don't know for sure, but you should be able to determine by trial and error (if the smart card doesn't work without the extension, try it with the extension).
[23:53] <Sbur3> But the thing that bugged me is that eid-viewer worked but not in firefox
[23:53] <matsaman> should be pretty straightforward to try it with a non-snap version of firefox, anyway
[23:56] <Sbur3> arraybolt3[m]: matsaman Hats off to you both for your help (and anyone else who I might not have seen).  It works. Thanks
[23:57] <matsaman> well I don't know if I helped you at all, but well done