[00:36] <bassinboy> how can i get to Restricted Driver Manager from xubuntu?
[00:38] <soldats> applications > system ? restricted drivers
[00:38] <soldats> s/?//
[00:40] <bassinboy> i dont have it
[00:41] <jeriko> select all packages, not just supported
[00:41] <jeriko> top right i think
[00:41] <jeriko> er, nvm
[00:42] <jeriko> my reading comprehension is awol
[00:42]  * jeriko walks away mumbling
[00:48] <fiyawerx> hm
[00:48] <fiyawerx> can't get mp3 to play with xmms either
[00:49] <soldats> do you have the codecs
[00:49] <fiyawerx> have installed w32codecs and xubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:49] <soldats> !mp3
[00:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:50] <fiyawerx> like i said
[00:50] <fiyawerx> that tells you to do Search for ubuntu-restricted-extras and install it. Note that there is also xubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-extras.
[00:50] <fiyawerx> which I did
[00:50] <soldats> hmm i installed them through synaptic
[00:52] <fiyawerx> gah
[00:53] <fiyawerx> i had grabbed an mp3 from easynews to try it with, I think the mp3 was bad :-\
[00:53] <fiyawerx> it does work :)
[00:54] <soldats> :P
[00:54]  * fiyawerx hangs his head in shame
[00:54] <soldats> dont do that
[00:54] <soldats> common mistake
[00:55] <fiyawerx> well after all the stuff i installed i shouldn't have any codec problems for a while
[00:55] <fiyawerx> lol
[00:56] <soldats> yea
[01:02] <mixed> anyone know if I can run Quake III on xubuntu?
[01:02] <soldats> through wine afaik, ask in #winehq some of them are wine experts
[01:04] <mixed> soldats, I already installed it on my ubuntu distro, now i want to use xfce instead of gnome
[01:05] <soldats> sure it should run the same
[01:05] <mixed> ok i just finished downloading xubuntu, I"ll just run quake on xfce and see if it works
[01:05] <soldats> xfce is just less bloated gnome
[01:09] <fiyawerx> altho thunar > nautilus
[01:10] <soldats> > == better
[01:10]  * fiyawerx nods
[01:10] <soldats> its smaller and faster IMO
[01:11] <fiyawerx> I dont think I'd ever use gnome, xfce or kde for me, both are pretty fast on my system, i just like how clean xfce is
[01:11] <fiyawerx> hmm, by default all streams want to open with totem from firefox, how can i change that?
[01:12] <soldats> true. i enjoy e16 as well though since its way smaller
[01:12] <soldats> theres a plugin for it afaik. you can look for it in synaptic since i dont recall the name
[01:13] <fiyawerx> oh wow, lots of plugins
[01:13] <fiyawerx> heh
[01:13] <jeriko> fiyawerx: in FF: edit -> prefs -> content -> manage
[01:13] <jeriko> or just apt-get remove totem
[01:13] <fiyawerx> jeriko, : thats all blank
[01:14] <jeriko> fiyawerx: if blank, then it shouldn't have a default association
[01:14] <soldats> fiyawerx, search synaptic for totem and look for the firefox part. i used gxine for mine
[01:14] <jeriko> meaning you get the popup box asking how you want to play/save the file
[01:14] <fiyawerx> when i click on a stream, it doesnt by default, but the only option ... right
[01:15] <fiyawerx> the only option in the popup is totem
[01:15] <jeriko> so choose something else, then click the box for default
[01:15] <jeriko> once you click that default box, you will see the association in ff
[01:16] <fiyawerx> ah, you have to hit other and browse to the specific /usr/bin/xmms, ok
[01:16] <fiyawerx> its in there now
[01:26] <tehk> Can anyone suggest a xfrun alternative?
[01:47] <bassinboy> anyone have broadcom wireless working on hardy heron alpha 3?
[01:48] <crimsun> yes
[01:50] <bassinboy> did you use ndiswrapper ?
[01:50] <crimsun> no
[01:51] <crimsun> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[01:51] <crimsun> and I used b43-fwcutter
[01:53] <bassinboy> crimsun: i have the exact card, well, rev 2, but i couldn't get it working with (actually, i used bcm43xx-fwcutter)
[01:54] <bassinboy> do you know if b43-fwcutter is significantly different
[01:55] <bassinboy> my lspci will show the device yet there is no wlan0
[01:57] <bassinboy> "b43 offers a newer codebase and hardware crypto support."
[01:57] <bassinboy> sweet
[01:59] <crimsun> you must use b43-fwcutter with b43.ko
[01:59] <crimsun> I don't know offhand if rev 02 will even work
[02:01] <bassinboy> does this look right to you
[02:01] <bassinboy> sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware driver/wl_apsta_mimo.o
[02:02] <crimsun> no
[02:02] <crimsun> I highly doubt you want to use that directory
[02:02] <crimsun> err, sorry
[02:03] <crimsun> my terminal fonts are screwed, and I thought you had an underscore between the 'e' in firmware and the 'd' in driver
[02:03] <crimsun> yes, that should work
[02:04] <bassinboy> crimsun: K, it's throwing "sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter..."
[02:04] <bassinboy> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware
[02:06] <bassinboy> rev 2 is supported, i'm not sure if the "(needs patches for 2.6.24)" is including rev 2 though
[02:07] <bassinboy> it does indeed look like i need a different version of b43
[02:08] <crimsun> I use a self-compiled b43
[02:08] <crimsun> (I'm using <IP_ADDRESS>)
[02:12] <bassinboy> oh crap, i just noticed a link for x.x.24
[02:16] <bassinboy> crimsun: i got the fw to extract, but i am unsure of what to do nect
[02:16] <bassinboy> next*
[02:17] <crimsun> make sure the newer b43 is loaded
[02:17] <bassinboy> as a kernel module?
[02:17] <crimsun> yes
[02:18] <bassinboy> i feel stupid for not knowing fwcutter was a module
[02:18] <bassinboy> dang, i loaded the module and still no wlan0
[02:19] <crimsun> fwcutter isn't a kernel module
[02:19] <crimsun> I have an wlan0_rename
[02:19] <crimsun> have a*, rather
[02:22] <bassinboy> well, i loaded b43 as the module
[02:23] <bassinboy> do you have to generate network devices ?
[02:24] <crimsun> no
[02:24] <crimsun> which drop of compat-wireless are you usinG?
[02:25] <crimsun> -rw-r--r-- 1 crimsun crimsun  1170639 2008-01-15 19:50 compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2
[02:25] <crimsun> so mine's from the 15th
[02:25] <ApacheNoob> hello
[02:25] <ApacheNoob> I have a simple problem
[02:25] <ApacheNoob> I just need to know how to get a good ftp and html server running on this computer
[02:26] <bassinboy> crimsun: i dont have compat-wireless
[02:26] <crimsun> bassinboy: that's where the new drop is
[02:28] <bassinboy> crimsun: is that a package available through ubuntu repos
[02:29] <crimsun> no
[02:29] <crimsun> you'd have to use it to build a newer b43.ko
[02:29] <bassinboy> what is a drop?
[02:30] <crimsun> a codedrop, in this case, a snapshot of the everything branch of the linux 2.6 wireless tree
[02:30] <crimsun> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download#Wheretodownload
[02:31] <bassinboy> interesting
[02:31] <bassinboy> so what purpose does b43-fwcutter hold?
[02:31] <crimsun> it extracts the firmware necessary to use b43.ko
[02:32] <crimsun> ApacheNoob: like vsftpd and lighttpd?
[02:32] <crimsun> ApacheNoob: you can use apt-get, dselect, aptitude, synaptic, $whatever to install them
[02:58] <bassinboy> crimsun: interesting issue, when i try to make install, (as sudo), it's lookign for all the files in root /
[04:09] <bassinboy> crimsun: i finally got compat-wireless to compile, but it is blowing up when i modprobe
[04:13] <bassinboy> i want to try your kernel but it's not on the repos lol
[04:13] <bassinboy> why is life so hard
[07:36] <nikolam> hi to all
[07:36] <nikolam> do you use some programs from hardy?
[07:37] <nikolam> I want to install some newer versions from hardy in my current 7.10/gutsy
[07:37] <nikolam> is it advisable? I am thinking to download packages and install them one by one
[07:38] <nikolam> or should I add hardy repository?
[07:39] <nikolam> i got important security updates and recoomended updates for gutsy selected
[07:46] <nikolam> Maybe I should add hardy repository, select that i want to use gutsy versions in synaptic repository preferences and then just install hardy versions of programs i want, while i remain on gutsy?
[07:46] <TheSheep> nikolam: I think it would be stablier to have a full Hardy installation
[07:47] <TheSheep> nikolam: mixing packages from two distros can be bad
[07:47] <TheSheep> nikolam: then again, upgrading may be a little bumpy when hardy is not ready yet
[07:47] <nikolam> I agree. But Just one program? I already have some programs from getdeb.net, (pidgin, etc) that are newer
[07:48] <TheSheep> nikolam: why do you need a newer one?
[07:48] <nikolam> I will definately stay on gutsy for every day use
[07:48] <nikolam> I dont know, maybe some security patches in iceape invoked me to upgrade
[07:50] <nikolam> Ok, I will not be messing with Hardy packages yet. I had an issue with xfce 4.4.2 manual install with installer, anyway and when i get back to default gutsy packages, everything was fine.
[07:51] <nikolam> Besides that I now use pcmanf instead of always-crashing thunar.
[07:51] <nikolam> pcmanfm
[10:17] <jaggy>  hey , can anyone help me ? whenever i try to connect to nessus , i fail :s
[10:17] <TheSheep> nessus?
[10:17] <jaggy> yes nessus
[10:18] <jaggy> nessus is a port scanner =_=
[10:23] <TheSheep> you connect to a port scanner?
[10:23] <jaggy> yes ...
[11:28] <nanbudh> i cannot access <IP_ADDRESS> my NETGEAR ROUTER from my main machine wired thru ethernet to the router(though  internet is working fine) while i can access it all fine on the same machine when i have booted up windows XP.
[11:28] <nanbudh> the page starts to open but 'hangs' so to say
[11:31] <totalwormface> i dub it 'silly'
[11:32] <totalwormface> it's probably not a question about browser plugins, because i'm personally going to kick someone who makes a non plugin free router control unit
[11:33] <totalwormface> and not one of dynamic / static ip, because you make contact with the router (and have internet)
[11:33] <totalwormface> so, it's silly
[11:34] <nanbudh> :-) yes it must be silly, i have ye another problem. The other machine(which has the wireless card and is running xubuntu7.10) cannot access internet but does access the <IP_ADDRESS> ROUTER ADMIN Page. is this strange or what?
[11:36] <nanbudh> when connecting over wireless does one need to make addresses etc different from ones over a wired connection? i have tried all combinations on my xubuntu box with no success
[11:39] <nanbudh> the system>network>wireless connection>properties has password
[11:42] <nanbudh> the system>network>wireless connection>properties has password type as a drop down list in which i am forced to choose a type, while there is no security password or anything on my router settings. could this be reason that i am not able to access internet over the wireless card? and if yes do i need to set a password in my router settings?
[12:05] <grahamperrin> nanbudh: no two devices should have the same address, if that's what you mean
[12:06] <nanbudh> but none have the same address, the main machine and the wireless one have diff ip addresses?
[12:06] <grahamperrin> ok
[16:02] <bassinboy> has anyone install kde?
[16:03] <predaeus> bassinboy, do you mean kubuntu? or installation of kde in xubuntu?
[16:04] <netpappy> Hey - any Xubuntu IRC Client recommendations?
[16:04] <totalwormface> netpappy: irssi
[16:06] <netpappy> thanks - going to check it out
[16:06] <bassinboy> kde in xubuntu via package installer
[16:07] <bassinboy> predaeus: i want to see what kde4 is like
[16:17] <HlfShell> hello everyone. I'm having an odd bug with xfce4-panel. it seems my panel spawns 4 or 5 nm-applets and i can't seem tog et rid of them....
[16:18] <TheSheep> HlfShell: delete the files in ~/.cache/sessions/ and don't save the session on logout
[16:20] <HlfShell> thats the thing- the sessions been saved....
[16:21] <HlfShell> 0r is that going to work no matter what?
[16:21] <HlfShell> i dont seem to have a /.cache/sessions
[16:22] <HlfShell> nm i do
[16:22] <HlfShell> so if i delete everything in that folder my desktop and panel is just going to return to normal?
[16:27] <HlfShell> TheSheep, just wanted to let you know it worked perfectly. Thanks!
[17:22] <FactTech> Hello, all -- Just upgraded to 7.10 and most things have transitioned well. However, I notice that the volume control knob and mute button on my keyboard are no longer working. Anybody know how to fix this? I found a couple of web pages with similar issues but no solutions.
[18:01] <TheSheep> FactTech: set your keyboard type to the keyboard you actually own
[18:02] <FactTech> TheSheep: Using the Settings, Keyboard Settings control panel? I tried that, but after I close the panel, the checkbox for "Use X configuration" always comes back on.
[18:03] <FactTech> TheSheep: Incidentally, are you literally the only person ever providing answers on #xubuntu? :)
[18:06] <TheSheep> FactTech: no
[18:07] <TheSheep> FactTech: you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and change the X default then...
[18:08] <FactTech> TheSheep: Would the X default setting have been changed by the upgrade?
[18:08] <TheSheep> I don't think so
[18:08] <TheSheep> FactTech: ah, there was an user complaining that the default ocmmands set to "volume up" and "volume down" keys dont' work
[18:09] <TheSheep> FactTech: can you look into your keybindings, see what commands there are, and try to run them in a terminal?
[18:09] <FactTech> TheSheep: Sure, I'd be happy to, but I might need a little guidance... On the keyboard settings control panel, shortcuts tab -- is that what you mean for bindings?
[18:12] <FactTech> TheSheep: If that is what you mean, I see that the command "aumix -v0" is bound to shortcut "XF86 AudioMute", for example.
[18:14] <FactTech> TheSheep: When I try to execute "aumix -v0" in a terminal, I get a response that seems to indicate the package is missing. "The program 'aumix' can be found in the following packages: * aumix * aumix-gtk Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package> bash: aumix: command not found"
[18:14] <FactTech> TheSheep: Should I just install the aumix package and see if that fixes it? Is there any way to see that the input of pressing the button is registering?
[18:15] <TheSheep> yes
[18:15] <TheSheep> isntall it
[18:15] <FactTech> TheSheep: Would that mean a missing or broken dependency somewhere in the upgrade?
[18:15] <TheSheep> you can run 'xev' to see what keys are registered
[18:16] <TheSheep> FactTech: probably
[18:17] <FactTech> TheSheep: xev looks like it's definitely registering both dial-turning and button-pressing. I'll install the aumix package and get back to you. Thanks a bunch for the pointers, TheSheep.
[18:17] <FactTech> TheSheep: If installing the package fixes it, who would be the best person/group to report the bug to?
[18:21] <FactTech> TheSheep: Unfortunately, it didn't fix the issue. I installed the aumix-gtk package. Running "aumix -v0" from a terminal does not mute the sound, and it issues response " aumix:  SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK"
[18:22] <crimsun> is this gutsy?
[18:22] <FactTech> crimsun: Yes, just upgraded to 7.10 from 7.04 via "Update Manager"
[18:22] <crimsun> if so, it's a known issue; aumix source just needs a rebuild.
[18:23] <FactTech> crimsun: Maybe I missed the page that discusses this one. Can you tell me a URL or some keywords to look for?
[18:25] <FactTech> crimsun: Unfortunately, I'm still enough of a newbie that "aumix source just needs a rebuild" does not suggest a course of action to me. :)
[18:25] <crimsun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aumix/+bug/145805
[18:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 145805 in aumix "aumix throws error aumix:  SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK" [Medium,Confirmed]
[18:25] <FactTech> crimsun: Much obliged, I'll look into it.
[18:32] <FactTech> crimsun: I read over the page. Looks like I'm not the first to run up against this one, but I didn't spot any step-by-steps on how to go about fixing it. Is there any way to rebuild the package using an automated tool? I have built packages manually but would really rather not go behind the back of synaptic/apt-get for something that is in the repository and sure to get an update down the road.
[18:33] <crimsun> unfortunately I don't have a good answer for it.
[18:33] <crimsun> I'll see if I can put some work into that SRU this afternoon.
[18:43] <FactTech> crimsun: If you do get a chance, it looks like me and several other users would appreciate it very much. Coincidentally enough, it looks like this bug indirectly made the front page on digg.com. (http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/The_Ubuntu_bug_reporting_culture_) I'm not going to demand instant service for a FOSS operating system I'm not even skilled enough to contribute to, but I will thank you profusely for a published fix. Thank
[18:43] <FactTech> s again.
[18:44] <crimsun> url seems dead?
[18:48] <FactTech> crimsun: Try http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/The_Ubuntu_bug_reporting_culture
[18:50] <crimsun> thanks.
[20:00] <jluk> hello
[20:08] <graelb> Hi there
[20:09] <graelb> I'm trying to either change or remove the need for, the password on my "keyring"?
[20:35] <eagle-101> hey all, I have a copy of xubuntu hardy running, where might I find things to break (ie, what has changed?)
[20:38] <TheSheep> eagle-101: the release notes? probably on the xubuntu website, hang on
[20:38] <eagle-101> TheSheep, thanks, I have a copy in a virtual machine here :)
[20:38]  * eagle-101 notes a few startup problems.
[20:39] <TheSheep> wait, it's hardy, it hans't been released yet, there are no release notes
[20:40] <eagle-101> TheSheep, yeah, but I"m looking for things that have been changed :)
[20:40] <TheSheep> eagle-101: just look into the repository and see the commit history...
[20:41] <eagle-101> ah I found a link, its in the channel topic :D
[20:41]  * eagle-101 will have to take a screenshot of the problematic login window
[20:41] <TheSheep> ah
[20:42] <TheSheep> eagle-101: sorry
[20:43] <eagle-101> TheSheep, you can see it at http://lineagle.unixpod.com/xubuntu-login.png :)
[20:43] <eagle-101> oh TheSheep nothing to be sorry for!
[20:44] <eagle-101> I suppose I should bug report that :) /me goes to read up on what they expect
[20:45] <TheSheep> eagle-101: it would be the xubuntu-default-settings package, I suppose
[20:46] <eagle-101> TheSheep, mmm yeah something is broken there.
[20:46] <TheSheep> eagle-101: but I think they are working on a new login screen for Hardy
[20:46] <eagle-101> TheSheep, so... worth reporting, or no?
[20:46] <TheSheep> eagle-101: every bug is worth reporting
[20:47] <eagle-101> alrighty :D
[20:48] <eagle-101> TheSheep, suspect they will want any more then the screenshot?
[20:48] <eagle-101> lsmod, lspci? anything else?
[20:48] <TheSheep> eagle-101: yes, what kind of emulator is that, what resolution, what settings
[20:49] <eagle-101> alright
[20:49] <TheSheep> eagle-101: the exact version you tested too
[20:49] <eagle-101> alpha3
[20:49] <TheSheep> eagle-101: if it's a nightly build, provide build date
[20:49] <eagle-101> TheSheep, ah, no nightly
[20:49]  * eagle-101 did not realize there was a nightly :P
[20:52] <TheSheep> wow, firefox finally integrates with the system
[20:52]  * TheSheep investigates
[21:03] <eagle-101> TheSheep, bug posted :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/184435
[21:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 184435 in ubuntu "xubuntu alpha3 login display issues" [Undecided,New]
[22:44] <Steve15> good evening, i've a little problem with my x-server: http://phpfi.com/290872
[22:45] <Steve15> instead of using the resolutions from xorg.conf, it does use 800x600 only :/
[22:49] <thruxton> Steve14: it looks like it dosent like your h/v sync settings
[22:49] <thruxton> II) NV(0): ASUS LS201ÿÿ: Using default hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz
[22:50] <thruxton> (II) NV(0): ASUS LS201ÿÿ: Using default vrefresh range of 50.00-70.00 Hz
[22:50] <thruxton> are you sure those are correct for your monitor?
[22:50] <Steve14> thruxton: should be, the lcd has ddc
[22:51] <thruxton> your getting a lot of hrefresh vrefresh out of range errors
[22:51] <Steve14> maybe it's up to the old tnt2 chip :/
[22:52] <Steve14> Is it nvs fault, isn't it?
[22:52]  * thruxton shrugs
[22:54] <Steve14> i'll try nvidia after i've updated my xubuntu system :)
[22:55] <thruxton> :)
[23:01] <Steve14> little restart, cya in a greater resolution soon, hopefully
[23:33] <HipShot> Hey...i'm new with ubuntu and everything, and I downloaded this VIA unichrome driver package from viaarena
[23:33] <HipShot> and I was wondering how do you install it?


[01:10] <anthonyb> ?
[01:10] <anthonyb> holi
[10:13] <hondje> Hi, don't know if this is the right place but the SHA256SUM for the 16.04.4 ISO download is not correct. I have 05f1af0aa27b1c6edbfef9f8b075d1ff0580ec6194eb6c54a196400001b34b47.
[10:14] <hondje> The sum on the download page (x86_64) is ec19ba1280e5a05b78a863f3844864a8b0a3b4336028bcfbf143ad4fda44f2c3.
[10:25] <hondje> I also have 1eaec1c3376b94b7cc4ba8d0c41e447bd6dec6695cdc66621aba0eb22034d75a for 16.04.3 (once again, amd64).
[10:27] <hondje> ...just in case it was the sum for the previous ISO that wasn't updated on the site. It appears to not be the case and I validated it a while back.
[10:45] <hondje> Just downloaded on another machine with identical results (direct download). The file size is also 1.6Gb both times and not 1.73Gb. Apologies for spamming.
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[15:07] <usuario> en el colegio abrente
[16:23] <kendell> I really like how good a job you guys have sone with accessibility in bionic beaver. It works just as good as it always has. However, the indicator applets aren't very accessible. To be specific, they are accessible, you can navigate them. They just don't speak the names of the menus, power, network, etc, only "menu". Should I file a bug against mate, or against the indicator applet package in ubuntu? I was hoping to g
[16:23] <kendell> or applet stuff added into mate itself, but not sure if that's possible
[17:04] <Lirodon> I noticed that with Compiz, some metacity themes break. Is this expected?
[22:08] <drahnier> hallo
[22:09] <kernal> yellow
[22:09] <drahnier> bin neu hier


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[11:35] <KGB-X> mozjs Marco Trevisan 461247 * commented merge request !9 * https://deb.li/Amjn
[13:25] <KGB-X> gnome-bluetooth3 signed tags d3b51ee Jeremy Bicha upstream/42.8 * Upstream version 42.8 * https://deb.li/nBFE
[13:26] <KGB-X> gnome-bluetooth3 upstream/latest fe41252 Bastien Nocera .gitlab-ci.yml * ci: Fix missing glib2-devel dependency * https://deb.li/lBJ7
[13:26] <KGB-X> gnome-bluetooth3 upstream/latest a9c1c1e Florian Müllner lib/bluetooth-client.c tests/integration-test.py * client: Remove device before emitting signal * https://deb.li/3P2pd
[13:26] <KGB-X> gnome-bluetooth3 upstream/latest 9416486 Simon McVittie tests/integration-test.py * tests: Chain up to dbusmock parent class methods * https://deb.li/5XaF
[13:26] <KGB-X> gnome-bluetooth3 upstream/latest 3e8e011 Bastien Nocera NEWS meson.build * 42.8 * https://deb.li/3nFH1
[13:26] <KGB-X> gnome-bluetooth3 upstream/latest 87665ef Jeremy Bícha (5 files in 3 dirs) * New upstream version 42.8 * https://deb.li/cFmh
[13:26] <KGB-X> gnome-bluetooth3 pristine-tar 559d4ed Jeremy Bícha gnome-bluetooth3_42.8.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-bluetooth3_42.8.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-bluetooth3_42.8.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3GBQc
[19:38] <bandali> hey lissyx, re your latest PRs for Bug 1878584, i noticed on the bug you'd left a comment that it's not snap-specific. does this mean your proposed PRs are just to work around it in the snap in the mean time?
[19:39] <bandali> also, with the explicit invocation of 'mach configure' now being deleted, does the "one" time occur implicitly as part of 'mach build'?
[19:39] <bandali> (trying to better understand the proposed change)


[20:39] <zaga> hi guy some one can redirectme to an italian irc support for gnome-ubuntu?
[20:39] <zaga> this is my FirsTime
[20:49] <zaga> ok let's go bed ...
[20:49] <zaga> good night


[22:30] <SteveWV> knock knock....anybody home?
[22:31] <yano> hi
[22:31] <SteveWV> hiya
[22:31] <SteveWV> I'm looking for a little linux help.
[22:31] <SteveWV> would you be willing?


[00:51] <vpa1977> Hi, would it be possible to review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-testtools/+bug/2002923 - this package merge is required for setuptools, python3-defaults, python-pbr and sphinx packages migration. Thank you !!!!!
[00:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2002923 in python-testtools (Ubuntu) "Please merge 2.5.0-4 into lunar" [Undecided, In Progress]
[08:25] <LocutusOfBorg> mwhudson, according to the work we did with debian maintainer and ubuntu developers, I plan to see 1.21.18 migrate if no mayor issues are found (e.g. the lto issue I had to quickly fix9
[08:26] <ginggs> vpa1977: replied
[11:35] <nteodosio> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=bionic&arch=arm64&package=chromium-browser&ppa=canonical-chromium-builds/stage&trigger=chromium-browser/109.0.5414.74-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:35] <nteodosio> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=bionic&arch=amd64&package=chromium-browser&ppa=canonical-chromium-builds/stage&trigger=chromium-browser/109.0.5414.74-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:35] <nteodosio> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=bionic&arch=armhf&package=chromium-browser&ppa=canonical-chromium-builds/stage&trigger=chromium-browser/109.0.5414.74-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:35] <nteodosio> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=bionic&arch=i386&package=chromium-browser&ppa=canonical-chromium-builds/stage&trigger=chromium-browser/109.0.5414.74-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:35] <nteodosio> Can I have these autopkgtests triggered please?
[12:15] <seb128> nteodosio, hey, triggered!
[12:17] <nteodosio> Thx Seb!
[14:08] <ogayot> Hello, may I also request some retriggers for samba & sssd please? Both packages were blocking talloc and have been rebuilt against python3.11. Thanks!
[14:08] <ogayot> ./retry-autopkgtest-regressions --series lunar | grep -F package=samba
[14:08] <ogayot> ./retry-autopkgtest-regressions --series lunar | grep -F package=sssd
[14:27] <schopin> ogayot: on it
[14:30] <schopin> ogayot: I'm seeing failures related to sambamba and shunit in the list, I'm assuming they're unrelated?
[15:00] <nteodosio> Can I have these autopkgtests retriggered please?
[15:00] <nteodosio> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=amd64&package=sabnzbdplus&trigger=ujson%2F5.6.0-1
[15:00] <nteodosio> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=lunar&arch=arm64&package=sabnzbdplus&trigger=ujson%2F5.6.0-1
[15:02] <ogayot> schopin: oh, right, I should have done a more restrictive filter. Thanks!
[16:32] <ginggs> nteodosio: .
[16:34] <ginggs> coreycb: senlin is historically very flaky on s390x, would you take a look please?
[16:36] <nteodosio> Thanks


[00:03] <rharper> hallyn: nothing wrong with adding a second disk, using curtin to install ubuntu to the second disk, and updating grub to boot into the second disk
[00:12] <hallyn> not a bad idea
[00:12] <hallyn> curtin works with kboot or something?
[00:15] <rharper> I think you could just dd the cloud-image to the second disk; and then have main grub chain-load to the target disk
[00:15] <rharper> the cloud-image auto expands the rootfs to the size of the disk on first boot
[00:16] <hallyn> can't get an actual second disk.  maybe i can just chroot into a tree with ubuntu installer
[00:18] <hallyn> well that won't *quite* work...   hm.  turn the huge /home into an installer disk maybe
[00:19] <hallyn> yeah that should work
[00:55] <hallyn> chuckle.  so i just extracted a lxc zesty rootfs into the home device.  tweaked it.  pointed grub at it.  will it work?
[00:55] <hallyn> nah.  i skipped a step.  oh well.  nothing to do but wait for reinstall now
[02:25] <moneylotion> hi all, i have two identical servers... running netatalk (afp)... one can clear gigabit speeds, the other 50 MB/s (max)... any ideas
[02:25] <moneylotion> running zfs... both systems, have very little fragmentation
[02:25] <moneylotion> fresh install on the slow system within the month
[02:26] <moneylotion> slow afp and smb
[02:29] <qman> identical hardware? identical disk layout?
[02:30] <sarnold> identical ashift?
[02:30] <moneylotion> qman - i just noticed something in my pfsense router.... now im getting full bandwidth over afp - huh - sorry
[02:30] <moneylotion> using vlans, and routing things over vpn... needed to local lan route
[02:48] <moneylotion> still only clearing 50 MB/s
[02:49] <moneylotion> the ashift is identical - the drives were migrated from an old install, where I was clearing full gigabit
[02:51] <moneylotion> just realized im running short lengths of cat 5e - would one machine be effected, even though they're right next to one another????
[02:51] <moneylotion> ** 5e isn't certified for gigabit speeds
[05:11] <masber> hi
[05:12] <masber> how could I rename a bond interface?
[09:37] <cpaelzer> rbasak: hiho
[09:37] <cpaelzer> rbasak: any idea why ppa:uvtool-dev/master is rejected on some of my systems as ppa?
[09:37] <cpaelzer> I just started debugging, but it seems not to trigger always
[09:38] <cpaelzer> e.g. a local trusty container works
[09:38] <cpaelzer> while one on horsea has this
[09:45] <cpaelzer> rbasak: fyi not uvtool repo specific
[09:45] <cpaelzer> it seems something (lxd?) sets up and sets http proxy - but that is on a format that is failing
[09:46] <cpaelzer> on the "good" systems there is no http_proxy set at all
[09:46] <cpaelzer> http_proxy=http://[fe80::1%eth0]:13128 seems wrong isn't it?
[09:48] <cpaelzer> ping6 likes it, wget not
[09:48] <cpaelzer> Error parsing proxy URL http://[fe80::1%eth0]:13128: Invalid IPv6 numeric address.
[09:48] <cpaelzer> and apt key doesn't like it either
[09:48] <cpaelzer> ?: invalid HTTP proxy (http://[fe80::1%eth0]:13128): bad URI
[09:53] <cpaelzer> stgraber: maybe another change that came in by 2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2 ?
[09:53] <cpaelzer> that seems to be the diff between good/bad systems
[09:54] <cpaelzer> or .1 more likely given the change in .2 is so small
[09:59] <rbasak> I suspect various things will attempt to validate the address and not pass through the %eth0
[10:00] <rbasak> I'm not sure there's an easy answer to this. I think it probably makes sense to treat the %eth0 thing as valid in http_proxy, but that would mean fixing all the upstreams and fixing all the different parsers out there.
[10:02] <rbasak> cpaelzer: ^ might be worth starting a bug in LP saying "cannot parse %eth0 in http_proxy IPv6 numeric address specifications" or similar and then adding tasks.
[10:02] <rbasak> stgraber: ^ any opinion?
[10:08] <Zero090> does anyone have experience with the self hosted analytic platform piwik?
[10:10] <cpaelzer> rbasak: stgraber: I found it goign deeper with brauner
[10:11] <cpaelzer> it turns out that (recently?) a not "lxd init" install will have LXD_IPV6_PROXY set
[10:12] <cpaelzer> and if set all this cascade of things happens: lxd configs the proxy, sets http:proxy in a format that many tools hat and eventually my apt-add-repository fails
[10:13] <cpaelzer> it is in some sense broken setup, but since proxy seems to be on after lxd install (but off after an all-enter lxd init btw) more people might run into it
[10:13] <cpaelzer> stgraber: not sure it really is a bug or a config issue, let me know if you want a  bug to e.g. change the defaults of  /etc/default/lxd-bridge
[10:16] <cpaelzer> FYI - some related discussion with brauner going on in #server (to somewhat be able to track down logs for you later)
[10:17] <rizonz> does anyone know why I cannot ifdown a nic ? it's specified but it replies with...
[10:18] <rizonz> ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[10:18] <rizonz> but eth1 is configured
[10:18] <rizonz> it is also up
[10:38] <Aison>  rizonz maybe eth1 is configured by some other service
[10:39] <Aison> rizonz, is it listed in /etc/network/interfaces? or is it configured by systemd?
[12:00] <rizonz> Aison: yes, it's some double setting
[12:09] <drab> trying my luck again, anybody knows what would trigger a graphical mode for the ubuntu installer?
[12:09] <drab> I'm installing from mini.iso,but it still goes into a graphical mode (not GUI tho)
[12:10] <drab> and I can't figure out what does that or who would know/where to ask
[12:10] <drab> other than trying to look at the source code...
[12:45] <tsglove2> Good morning everyone o/
[12:53] <drab> moin tsglove2
[12:53] <tsglove2> hey yah drab !
[12:53] <tsglove2> How's it going over there?
[12:53] <drab> let's say it's 5:53 and I've been working for 1hr already :)
[12:54] <drab> how's things on your end?
[12:55] <tsglove2> Superb! 8:55am over here
[12:55] <tsglove2> Eager for today's projects.
[12:55] <tsglove2> Plus working on a side project - virtual lab, trying to setup FreeIPA
[12:55] <tsglove2> I like Canonical's Landscape... yet would like a 100% free solution/alternative.
[12:56] <tsglove2> I think that is missing in order to have a big competition to Microsoft's Active Directory.
[13:35] <ikonia> tsglove2: foreman or katello
[13:36] <tsglove2> ikonia, thanks!  I had not heard of Katello... checking it out now.
[13:36] <tsglove2> Foreman, I read about it... yet... didn't follow through.
[13:36] <ikonia> totally open source, more advanced functions than landscape
[13:36] <tsglove2> I have no "actual" deployment at the moment for this FreeIPA install... (or foreman/katello)... yet would like to know the possibilities out there.
[13:36] <ikonia> designed for the enterprise
[13:38] <tsglove2> Which one? Foreman? Katello?
[13:38] <tsglove2> oh wow... it's the same project
[13:38] <tsglove2> Katello was moved over to Foreman
[13:38] <tsglove2> ok, got it
[13:38] <tsglove2> https://theforeman.org/
[13:39] <ikonia> sort of
[13:40] <tsglove2> This is good.
[13:40] <hateball> That looks neat :o
[13:40] <tsglove2> This is what I want to try.  Foreman says it's for servers... yet I want to use it for servers and workstations (to do simple things like --> map user's network drives, coporate-mandated wallpapers, etc etc)
[13:41] <tsglove2> I am going to setup the FreeIPA lab, play with it, then will do the same with Foreman
[13:43] <ikonia> tsglove2: works great for workstations
[13:44] <tsglove2> ikonia, Foreman?
[13:44] <ikonia> tsglove2: I have it managing 15000 workstations, and another 8000 servers
[13:44] <tsglove2> damn
[13:44] <drab> tomreyn: fwiw the answer was fb=false
[13:45] <tsglove2> ikonia, then let me shoot you a question: What I want, is to not have to touch Microsoft Active Directory.   I have a small client (12-13 workstations), which they want to move over to Linux.
[13:45] <ikonia> ok ?
[13:46] <ikonia> tsglove2: are these 12-13 workstations stand alone or part of a bigger network
[13:46] <drab> ikonia: can foreman work with preseeding and ansible?
[13:46] <tsglove2> Oh no... sorry, just shooting talk.
[13:46] <ikonia> drab: it can
[13:46] <drab> I briefly looked at it, but it seemed more complexity than I needed and I already have most of it automated with preseed and ansible
[13:46] <drab> so wasn't sure what it'd buy me
[13:46] <drab> but we kinda need a ui to give to junior admin
[13:46] <ikonia> drab: depends what you want,
[13:46] <drab> and I'm still lacking an inventory
[13:46] <ikonia> drab: it's much more than a gui
[13:47] <ikonia> is full lifecycle management with public API's for external automation
[13:47] <drab> ikonia: well the provisioning part I have, pxe boot, configs, etc and ansible takes care of settings up hosts as they shuold be
[13:47] <drab> and I have nagios for monitoring of the nodes
[13:47] <ikonia> drab: so that takes approx 90 minutes to port into foreman
[13:47] <drab> but it's all a tad fragmented
[13:47] <ikonia> as foreman just overlays ontop of the pxe process to manage the lifecycle
[13:48] <tsglove2> wow now I want to finish with my FreeIPA lab, so i can jump into Foreman
[13:48] <drab> ikonia: will it be able to kickoff jobs too? one of the things I was looking at that I'm missing is implementing rundeck or similar
[13:49] <drab> to kick off ansible job through an api
[13:49] <ikonia> drab: yup
[13:49] <drab> ok, that sounds interesting
[13:49] <drab> do you know of anybody using it with ansible? homepage says puppet, chef, salt, but no ansible
[13:49] <ikonia> use the katello components and you get things like package lifecycle process etc
[13:49] <ikonia> drab: I have many clients, I have it running with ansible, puppet and chef
[13:50] <ikonia> (as in many differnt client using it in different ways)
[13:50] <drab> good to know, thank you, will try to set it up and maybe hit you up if you don't mind
[13:50] <drab> glad I ran into this convo
[13:50] <ikonia> sure
[13:50] <ikonia> the next release has a terrform extension to the api - so you can call foreman functions from terraform
[13:50] <ikonia> (to give you context)
[13:51] <drab> so the monitoring is also done with external tools? no wheels reinvented?
[13:51] <drab> does it like import data ala pnp4nagios?
[13:51] <ikonia> reporting is internal, but "monitoring" is normally an external service
[13:52] <drab> ok
[13:52] <ikonia> however monitoring tools such as zabbix/nagios/datadog (just examples) all have functions that plugin to it
[13:52] <drab> I was also looking at influxdb, migrating to that from nagios pnp
[13:52] <ikonia> eg: if a host goes down, replace it
[13:52] <ikonia> or scale two more
[13:52] <drab> ok, cool, I don't need anything that fancy, just trying to give ppl here something esier to work with so I don't need to do it all myself
[13:52] <drab> and some cohesive view and admin point is sorely missing
[13:53] <ikonia> I can't give you numbers, but I've used it to create a tiered support system that reduced costs massively
[13:55] <drab> I can believe that, I've seen the benefits of stuff like that before, just not specifically foreman, hence trying to find a solution
[13:56] <drab> most places I've been at before had something custom due to size/internal stuff
[13:56] <drab> so never really looked into it
[13:56] <ikonia> you could look at maas too
[13:56] <ikonia> I don't think it's as advanced/mature/feaure rich though
[13:56] <drab> and from the old days I had the impression it was a provisioning tool for RH... but I guess that was its very beginning
[13:56] <drab> I'll take a look, thanks
[13:57] <ikonia> it's hard to be dissapointed by it, being honest
[14:11] <tsglove> darn it... now I want to try Foreman
[14:28] <smoser> rbasak, upload uvtool
[14:28] <smoser> ?
[14:28] <smoser> to artful. as in.. would you upload uvtool to artful ?
[14:30] <rbasak> OK
[14:31] <rbasak> Oh
[14:31] <rbasak> smoser: artful isn't open yet.
[14:31] <rbasak> But yes, I should when it is.
[14:31] <smoser> oh. i thought it was
[14:55] <stgraber> cpaelzer: that's nothing new, http_proxy being set that way has been happening since before LXD 2.0
[14:56] <stgraber> cpaelzer: and the value we set it is absolutely valid, even a lot of software indeed don't parse it properly
[14:57] <stgraber> cpaelzer: starting with LXD 2.3+ we don't have that proxy anymore, instead just not providing the container with an eth0 if the user didn't configure networking, but for the 2.0.x series we won't be doing any change to that behavior
[14:58] <smoser> bug 1
[15:56] <drab_> ikonia: do you know if there's anything to use foreman with qemu (without libvirt) and lxd (for which there's no frontend really)?
[15:59] <drab> also, urm, just read through the katello page, this is why I guess I stayed away from it... it just soudns like RH/puppet/yum/ruby stuff
[16:00] <drab> does it actually integrate with ubuntu in any decent way? katello's home page starts with "yum and puppet repositories" and continues on that line
[16:05] <smoser> rbasak, why did you not think artful was open ?
[16:06] <nacc> smoser: #ubuntu-release says archive: closed
[16:06] <nacc> smoser: artful has been created but not yet active aiui
[16:06] <Ussat> drab, it is very much RH centric
[16:06] <smoser> xnox, ^
[16:06] <nacc> smoser: i assume there's some latency for the release copy?
[16:06] <smoser> nacc disagrees with you too
[16:06] <nacc> heh
[16:06] <nacc> it's possible /topic just hasn't been updated yet
[16:07] <drab> Ussat: yeah, definitely looks like it, just found a thread where ppl are even asking if katello will ever support debian and it's from last year so not terribly old...
[16:07] <drab> not sure how ikonia has it going
[16:07] <Ussat> drab, I work with it a lot at work
[16:08] <drab> Ussat: so is it like hammering a sqaure peg through a round hole?
[16:08] <drab> to make it work with ubuntu that is
[16:08] <Ussat> a very small round hole
[16:08] <drab> lol
[16:09] <xnox> nacc, .... dude irc topic doesn't matter.
[16:09] <xnox> yes, it is in pre-open freeze, but that simply means the uploads land into unapproved queue, and they will be accepted by hand at the moment.
[16:09] <Ussat> drab, even getting it to work with RHEL involves ancient banned black arts
[16:09] <xnox> or once britney is up, they will accept everything pending there.
[16:09] <nacc> xnox: i wasn't saying it as fact, tbh -- i was just trying to answer smoser's query, as rbasak may not be around
[16:09] <xnox> thus one can upload things into artful.
[16:10] <drab> Ussat: ok, thanks for your input
[16:10] <smoser> nacc, i just like to have people fight :)
[16:10]  * xnox is building artful packages in my ppa, and uploading things into unapproved shortly
[16:10] <drab> Ussat: I guess I'll try it in a VM and see what happens, I'm not wanting too much, just trying to get some central inventory and place to trigger ansible
[16:11] <smoser> and now we all have more info on what is open and such, so end result is good.
[16:12] <nacc> smoser: +1
[16:13] <Ussat> drab, ya it IS doable, because we have some Ubuntu here also that I need to pound it into
[16:14] <Ussat> but not something I am looking forward to.
[16:24] <rbasak> smoser, xnox, nacc: yeah, I was going from the topic in #ubuntu-release. I always considered it polite to wait until the customary "it's open" announcement.
[16:25] <xnox> rbasak, since proposed migration there is no need to wait for anything. because things are appropriately shoved into unapproved; and archive team flush it when things are ready.
[16:25] <xnox> rbasak, we care about developer velocity, and everyone should be able to develop all the time =)
[16:26] <xnox> (and e.g. upload to `devel` even if the name is not known yet)
[16:28] <rbasak> xnox: perhaps then the archive should never be "closed"? :)
[19:56] <drab> ok, this is really weird
[19:56] <drab> it's like a service started inside the chroot is creating stuff in /run outside of the chroot...
[19:58] <drab> I'm trying to get ssh going in the chroot after an install, I do an mkdir /var/run/sshd but the dir isn't there when I look
[19:58] <drab> but there's a sshd dir and sshd.pid in /run on the host/installer
[19:59] <sarnold> can you paste your script?
[20:00] <drab> sure, sec
[20:02] <drab> sarnold: http://dpaste.com/0T71JHF
[20:04] <sarnold> crazy :/
[20:04] <drab> ppl tell me that a lot, yeah
[20:04] <drab> :)
[20:05] <drab>   Apr 21 12:50:24 sshd[8778]: fatal: Missing privilege separation directory: /var/
[20:05] <drab>    run/sshd
[20:05] <drab> that's in sshlog
[20:05] <drab> eeer, syslog
[20:05] <drab> the thing is, if I get a shell, chroot /target bash
[20:05] <drab> and mkdir /var/run/sshd it works
[20:05] <drab> I don't even have to restart sshd
[20:06] <sarnold> drab: normally /var/run/ is a symlink to /run, which is a tmpfs..
[20:06] <tarpman> that wouldn't be systemd's shared mounts thing again, would it?
[20:06] <sarnold> tarpman: oh hell. it might be.
[20:07] <sarnold> drab: read this see if it feels irght https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739593
[20:07] <tarpman> I was pleased to note schroot's latest upload finally started unsharing mounts automatically
[20:07] <tarpman> uh, debian upload
[20:09] <drab> so I need to do mount --make-rprivate /var/run/ ?
[20:12] <drab> but yeah, it sounds like something is going on, because I thought I saw the symlinks in the root host
[20:12] <drab> then chrooted, came out, and they are gone... I swear they were there
[20:14] <tarpman> I think it'd be --make-rprivate /run if anything. but I don't remember clearly
[20:16] <drab> ok, testing that to see what happens
[20:37] <ikonia> drab: I don't think you can use qemu without libvirt, you can use it with lxd with the docker plugin
[20:44] <sarnold> ikonia: oh?
[20:45] <ikonia> sarnold: ?
[20:45] <sarnold> ikonia: I'd love to know more about using qemu via lxd rather than libvirt
[20:46] <ikonia> sarnold: you are missing a bit of backscroll / history there, sorry, it's also a bit off topic for here, but I drab was asking about a differnt tool and I was saying you "can't" use qemu without libvirt using that tool, but you CAN use it with lxd via the docker plugin
[20:46] <sarnold> ikonia: oh. dang. :/ thanks for the explanation
[20:47] <ikonia> sarnold: yeah, I've just re-read what I typed and without the history it does look like an interesting setup
[20:53] <drab> sarnold: the mount rprivate made no diff
[20:53] <drab> still same error
[20:53] <drab> on the host /run has the sshd dir
[20:53] <drab>  /run inside the chroot does not
[20:54] <drab> I've no idea why mkdir is doing nothing when ran from the late-command script
[20:54] <drab> it works just fine if I run it manually
[20:54] <drab> unless there's some sort of namespace thingie that bug was referring to that I don't get
[20:54] <drab> and it exists when I run ssh from the late command, but is delete when the script finshes
[20:55] <drab> in which case... wait... maybe I can move the mkdir to the preseed file
[20:55]  * drab goes to test that
[21:20] <drab> \o/
[21:20] <drab> so adding a "mkdir /target/run/sshd" from the late-command line worked
[21:21] <sarnold> that makes me question everything else in that script
[21:22] <tarpman> you're running an sshd inside d-i? o.O
[21:23] <drab> sarnold: I think it's just because /run is special
[21:23] <drab> and a symlink to a tmpfs
[21:23] <drab> everything else in the script works
[21:23] <drab> tarpman: yes
[21:24] <drab> so the workflow is reboot the box -> pxe boot -> mini.iso install with defaults -> ansible run
[21:24] <drab> ->reboot
[21:24] <drab> this way by the time the host comes back it's fully configured
[21:24] <tarpman> interesting
[21:24] <drab> I've had too many problems with post-reboot being wonky
[21:24] <tarpman> I tried to do a similar thing in the past, with puppet
[21:24] <drab> especially around interfaces and other stuff due to "predictable naming" and netcfg bugs etc
[21:24] <tarpman> run a puppet agent in late-command
[21:25] <drab> yeah, the thing is, I wanna push to the new instance, not pull
[21:25] <tarpman> never got it working reliably, all sorts of weirdness :\
[21:25] <drab> because pulling implies that I have to make the repo available to each instance and that's more problems
[21:25] <drab> tarpman: fair enough
[21:25] <drab> my very first ansible role completed :)
[21:25] <drab> so end-to-end success \o/
[21:25] <drab> sarnold: why would you question the rest of the script? I guess it all makes sense, the sshd was the only service running
[21:26] <drab> and the only thing touching a fs on a tmpfs
[21:26] <sarnold> drab: if a mkdir in the script didn't do what you expected why would anything else in the sciprt/
[21:26] <drab> so per bug you pointed out I guess there's something going on with namespaces and ssytemd maybe, I don't claim to understand it
[21:26] <drab> sarnold: because the mkdir was making ad ir in a "special fs"
[21:26] <drab> like I said everything else touches things that are on the actual device mounted at /
[21:26] <drab> ie the installed system
[21:27] <drab> while that mkdir was touching a symlinked path to a tmpfs location
[21:27] <drab> that is shared with the host
[21:27] <drab> so it was special in respect everything else
[21:27] <drab> s/was/is
[21:27] <drab> to everything*
[21:27] <drab> brb
[23:55] <imightbestupid12> so i set the chmod 777 / for my webserver running as root and i was wondering what do i need to do to revert those changes?
[23:57] <sarnold> chmod 755 /
[23:58] <imightbestupid12> thank you
[23:58] <imightbestupid12> so 755 is the default always right/
[23:58] <sarnold> yes


[00:55] <davidarino> Hi everyone, any developers here? Got some positive feedback
[00:57] <davidarino> anyone in here?
[00:57] <zerwas> Sure.
[00:57] <zerwas> But I'm just another user like you.
[00:57] <davidarino> kk
[00:58] <zerwas> davidarino: Tell us about it!
[00:58] <davidarino> I'll paste the feedback in, and hopefully a dev will see it
[00:59] <davidarino> This comes from see a swarm of negative comments about people's preferences with the OS they use
[00:59] <davidarino> Me = linux noob in about 2012
[00:59] <davidarino> I started with ubuntu, as it was easiest to migrate to using wubi as a hack to begin with then learning how to do it properly with live usbs.
[00:59] <davidarino> I've learnt a lot with ubuntu, but to be honest I didn't like the interface that much.
[01:00] <davidarino> I understand its more aimed at a touch interface
[01:00] <davidarino> and that's just fine
[01:00] <davidarino> I've tried a few flavours then finally, thank goodness tried gnome.
[01:01] <davidarino> I think its excellent, and if I was developing an OS flavour I imagine I would come up with something very similar given I had enough time to write it
[01:01] <davidarino> I also really appreciate that gnome ubuntu people offer previous "classic" interfaces at login for people who aren't inclined to change just yet
[01:03] <davidarino> So for any developers out there, well done! I appreciate huge amount of hours coding something to be that stable and pretty, as well as open source.
[01:04] <zerwas> :-)
[01:04] <davidarino> It actually a little ridiculous that you can have it for free, and for all the people who want it this way or that way or tweak it, including gnome tweak tool as well as extensions was a very good idea.
[01:06] <davidarino> Mmmmm, that's it I hope they find it, as I didn't think this was appropriate for a mailing list
[01:07] <davidarino> gg gnome
[01:41] <ahoneybun> k
[02:38] <ramrebol_> Hi. Someone uses something like "Workspace grid" https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/  ?  I'm looking for something like that, but that is outdated
[02:45] <ramrebol_> :'(
[02:55] <ramrebol_> nobody has that problem?
[03:16] <zerwas> ramrebol_: did you look at the comments?
[03:27] <ramrebol_> thanks for answer zerwas. I read the "fakedrake" answer (2 moth ago) and installed "Worspace grid", but appears "!" symbol http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=zx4312&s=8#.U-BO5taNHeQ
[03:28] <ramrebol_> (I did CTRL+F2 + r to reload gnome-shell)
[03:29] <zerwas> Are you on 3.12?
[03:29] <zerwas> If you hover over the warning symbol, what does it say?
[03:31] <ramrebol_> Says "Extension does not support shell version"
[03:32] <ramrebol_> and I have GNOME Shell 3.10.4
[03:32] <ramrebol_> (comes with ubuntu gnome dvd version 14.04)
[03:36] <ramrebol_> do you think that if I upgrade my gnome-shell yo 3.12 version this would works?
[03:38] <ramrebol_> now I'm ungrading
[03:38] <ramrebol_> wish me look
[03:39] <zerwas> ramrebol_: wow, you are upgrading GNOME because of one extension?
[03:39] <zerwas> ramrebol_: How are you upgrading?
[03:44] <ramrebol_> I guess (or I hope) that updating does not explode. I see that the version 14 is stable :/
[03:45] <ramrebol_> I just add one repository and upgrade (I using ubuntu with gnome)
[03:45] <ramrebol_> Do you think that was a bad idea?
[03:47] <ramrebol_> (version 3.12 not 14)
[03:49] <ramrebol_> this is a bad idea?
[03:54] <ramrebol_> I-ll be back un 2 minuts
[03:57] <zerwas> ramrebol: No, I'm using 3.12 via the PPA, too. But not everyone should/wants to do that
[03:59] <ramrebol> I cut the upgrate and download the paa. I need a lot the pc this week and I can't reinstall the system if the upgrade fail :(
[03:59] <zerwas> I see
[04:00] <ramrebol> but has two rows of workspaces is very comfortable to me. Do you know another way to achieve this?
[04:01] <ramrebol> (my english is terrible, as you see )
[04:07] <zerwas> Your english is fine, don't worry :-)
[04:07] <zerwas> Sorry, I normally don't use workspaces at all
[04:08] <ramrebol> thanks for your kindness (about my languaje )
[04:08] <ramrebol> so, you must to start to use worspace, hehe
[04:08] <zerwas> I just saw that the bitbucket version only has 3.12 in metadata.json, maybe it works if you add 3.10 there
[04:16] <ramrebol> I'm looking inside of the files
[04:17] <ramrebol> ? edited something, but without look.
[13:04] <LinDol> hi all
[14:52] <ramrebol> hi zerwas: do you remember me?
[14:53] <zerwas> ramrebol: welcome back :)
[14:57] <ramrebol> yesterday you gave me the idea (noting that my version of gnome is not the last one). Just searched the version of "workspace grid" to gnome 3.10 (mine gnome version) and it worked perfect whole.
[14:58] <ramrebol> look http://tinypic.com/r/dyqiyh/8
[14:58] <ramrebol> thanks for the idea!
[14:59] <ramrebol> works perfect!
[14:59] <zerwas> ramrebol: Great! Without updating to 3.12 :)
[15:02] <ramrebol> yea. You have right, it was too risky to upgrate the version of gnome (whichalready runs perfect to me) only for detail.
[15:04] <ramrebol> the only detail is the transparent background of terminals (does not work), but I can survive with that
[15:05] <DASPRiD> ramrebol, there's a workaround
[15:12] <ramrebol> DASPRiD: yea? an easy way?
[15:12] <DASPRiD> yep
[15:12] <DASPRiD> lemme see if i find the link again
[15:13] <ramrebol> (so, do you are using that?)
[15:13] <DASPRiD> yep
[15:13] <DASPRiD> ramrebol, http://forum.pinguyos.com/Thread-Get-Back-Transparent-Terminal
[15:13] <DASPRiD> basically: install devilspie, tell it to make all terminals transparent bei 99% (not noticable); then transparency works again
[15:14] <DASPRiD> that's for gnome 3.10 btw
[15:14] <DASPRiD> for 3.12 there's a PPA with a fixed gnome-terminal
[15:27] <ramrebol> thanks DASPRiD, I going to logout now to prove
[15:31] <ramrebol> Now I have the terminal transparency.
[15:31] <ramrebol> terrific!
[16:43] <DASPRiD> ramrebol, you're welcome :)


[22:54] <daker> yo godbyk
[22:54] <daker> i just saw something suspicious, you did approve
[22:54] <daker> someone
[22:55] <daker> this guy joined a lot of teams today https://launchpad.net/~mibtn10/+participation


[00:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New binary: fcitx-qt5 [arm64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.2.2-2] (input-methods, kubuntu, ubuntu-qt-packages)
[00:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New binary: fcitx-qt5 [armhf] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.2.2-2] (input-methods, kubuntu, ubuntu-qt-packages)
[10:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New: accepted fcitx-qt5 [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed) [1.2.2-2]
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New: accepted fcitx-qt5 [i386] (cosmic-proposed) [1.2.2-2]
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New: accepted fcitx-qt5 [s390x] (cosmic-proposed) [1.2.2-2]
[10:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- New: accepted fcitx-qt5 [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [1.2.2-2]
 Fwd from acheronuk: building against -proposed in cosmic for anything Qt is fucked for the time being
 Fwd from acheronuk: the sync of new wayland version before new mesa was merged, leaves qtbase5-dev uninstallable in -proposed
 FYI ^^^
[15:29] <acheronuk> apologies there!
 building against -proposed in cosmic for anything Qt is 'broken' for the time being
 the sync of new wayland version before new mesa was merged, leaves qtbase5-dev uninstallable in -proposed
 Eek!
[21:32] <valorie> just a reminder that this chan is logged
[21:46] <acheronuk> yep :P


[12:40] <crimsun> newz2000: if you're still present, I need /proc/asound/card0/codec* pastebinned/added to #92171
[12:40] <newz2000> crimsun: you just caught me, sure thing
[12:40] <newz2000> crimsun: there are no codec*
[12:41] <newz2000> oh wait
[12:41] <crimsun> there must be.
[12:41] <newz2000> I forgot the ls at the beginning and tab completion was looking for executable files
[12:43] <newz2000> crimsun: done
[12:44] <newz2000> if you need more, let me know, I'll be back for just a little bit in 30 min, then again for longer in a few hours
[12:44] <crimsun> ok, looking now.
[12:44] <crimsun> I'll likely need you to test some kernel modules
[01:10] <crimsun> newz2000: please ping me when you return, thanks.
[02:27] <pradalover> I need some help
[02:27] <pradalover> my sound isn't working
[04:37] <newz2000> crimsun: I'm here, are you still around?
[04:43] <crimsun> newz2000: hi
[04:43] <crimsun> give me a sec to log in
[04:43] <newz2000> crimsun: hey! sure
[04:48] <crimsun> newz2000: can you try the following, please?  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[04:48] <newz2000> crimsun: do I need to save my work before I do this?
[04:48] <crimsun> newz2000: it's a good idea, yes, but I don't anticipate it exploding
[04:49] <newz2000> ok, two things hapened...
[04:50] <newz2000> volume control applet died unexpectedly...
[04:50] <crimsun> the mixer applet should pop up a notification bubble
[04:50] <crimsun> right
[04:50] <newz2000> FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error running install command for snd
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error running install command for snd
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-pcm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error running install command for snd_pcm
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error inserting snd_hda_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <crimsun> ah, blarg
[04:50] <newz2000> wow, tht's a lot
[04:51] <crimsun> kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof: status error on /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof: status error on /dev/audio*: No such file or directory
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof: status error on /dev/mixer*: No such file or directory
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof: status error on /dev/snd/*: No such file or directory
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof 4.77
[04:52] <newz2000>  latest revision: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/
[04:52] <newz2000>  latest FAQ: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/FAQ
[04:52] <newz2000>  latest man page: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_man
[04:52] <newz2000>  usage: [-?abhlnNoOPRstUvVX]  [+|-c c]  [+|-d s]  [+D D]  [+|-f]
[04:52] <newz2000>  [-F [f] ]  [-g [s] ]  [-i [i] ]  [+|-L [l] ]  [+m [m] ]  [+|-M]  [-o [o] ]
[04:52] <newz2000>  [-p s]  [+|-r [t] ]  [-S [t] ]  [-T [t] ]  [-u s]  [+|-w]  [-x [fl] ]  [--]  [names]
[04:52] <newz2000> Use the ``-h'' option to get more help information.
[04:52] <crimsun> yeah, that's ok.
[04:52] <newz2000> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec]
[04:52] <crimsun> it should still continue with modprobe -r
[04:52] <crimsun> you can verify with:  lsmod |grep ^snd_hda_intel
[04:53] <newz2000> yeah, I got a line returned from that
[04:53] <newz2000> snd_hda_intel          21912  0
[04:53] <crimsun> great.
[04:53] <crimsun> Is `aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav' audible?  (It may not be; you may need to adjust the element levels using `alsamixer')
[04:54] <newz2000> I got audible sound!
[04:54] <crimsun> ok, how is the perceptive loudness?
[04:55] <newz2000> ooh, more sounds
[04:56] <crimsun> i.e., is it 2.6.20-8.14-"loud"?
[04:57] <newz2000> Fortunately my laptop has a physical volume control. :-)
[04:57] <crimsun> sorry, but I can't interpret whether that means the perceptive loudness regression is still present with model=auto
[04:58] <newz2000> sorry, I thought you were making a joke... I think the sounds is excellent now
[04:58] <crimsun> ok, then that's a fairly straightforward one-line revert. Thanks for confirming.
[04:59] <newz2000> sweet
[05:02] <crimsun> (Sorry it has taken so long; I've been swamped with work.)
[05:02] <newz2000> no problem, I'lm glad to have a solution in the pipe line. Thought I might have to live with edgy for ever. :-)
[05:23] <dac_> when online, after 10 mins. or so, the page freezes up, WHY?
[07:09] <xipietotec> I have a bad bug related to updating kernel images in feisty I'm not sure how to resolve
[07:11] <xipietotec> but 98911
[07:11] <xipietotec> bug 98911
[07:12] <xipietotec> pfft....okay https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/98911
[04:57] <BenC> mjg59: ping
[04:58] <mjg59> BenC: Hi
[05:18] <gicmo> Any news on: bug 96480 ? Is there something missing?
[06:00] <_ion> benc: How are you planning to implement the nvidia thing? I'm thinking something like this, but you probably have a better idea: have libgl1-mesa-glx, nvidia-glx etc. put libGL.so.1 etc. to /usr/lib/glx/mesa, /usr/lib/glx/nvidia-9631, /usr/lib/glx/nvidia-9755 and so on. Link /usr/lib/glx/default via /etc/alternatives to /usr/lib/glx/$foo and link /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 etc. to the equivalent files under /usr/lib/glx. Then have a program call ...
[06:00] <_ion> ... update-alternatives appropriately based on connected hardware on bootup. The same program should link nvidia.ko to nvidia-$version.ko as well.
[06:05] <_ion> benc: By the way, would it be helpful if i split the l-r-m debian/rules to debian/rules.d/{nvidia,fglrx,...} and have debian/rules include them? It seems to me that it would make things much easier to change.
[06:22] <kkubasik> hey, is someone on top of the 2.6.20-14 bump for restricted-modules?
[10:10] <_ion> benc: Online? :-)
[10:44] <Ng> is there anything I can do to get useful information about why my r8169 powered NIC has stopped sending any traffic?
[10:44] <Ng> not seen this before, so I don't want to bounce it or reboot if I can get something useful
[10:45] <kylem> ethtool -S eth0
[10:49] <Ng> kylem: ta. sadly that's hanging in an ioctl :/
[10:50] <kylem> r8169 is an utter shit driver. :\
[10:54] <Ng> kylem: heh, great!
[10:55] <Ng> I'll dial up debugging for r8169 in case it happens again
[10:55] <Ng> but I am distressed that my spendy new desktop has a realtek in it, despite using intel for seemingly everything else
[10:55] <kylem> rmmod/modprobe might help it.
[10:57] <Ng> kylem: or it might make it oops
[10:57] <kylem> indeed.
[11:00] <Ng> ah well, reboot and debugging it is :)


[22:54] <timClicks_> ideas welcome! what are the features of juju that you quite like but which would not appear in many checkbox matrix comparison with other tools? am trying to compile a list here https://discourse.jujucharms.com/t/some-hidden-features-of-juju/1649?u=timclicks


[13:07] <Gunfus_> Hi there
[13:08] <Gunfus_> anyone with experience on 14.01.?
[13:08] <Gunfus_> I am getting a problem with related to: EXT4-fs (md0): bad geometr: block count 122096646 exceeds size of device (122096624 blocks)


 Forwarded from RikMills: plasma-welcome will also be in 5.27 https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-welcome
 This looks good and we can add custom pages!
 working on the packaging :)
 Very nice!
[15:02] <Fallen> Would be great to connect, indeed separate from the flavor sync. If possible I'd love to chat before the sync.