[05:52] <esi48269> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <|DeasY|> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <segamat_apaADAda> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <badin1975> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <beruang> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <Rizk1e> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <jax_kidd|SleePin> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <Guest81471> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <wei> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <Emp|re> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <cxm> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <SHY_GUY> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <co-JOMBLO^KESEPI> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <SBS-NET-KEDIRI> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <maling^ayam`> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <cewe`cool> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <FLH> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <co_mau_coba2> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <mjrdom0> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <ANI--BRUTAL> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <FaizKL-BoSan-CaR> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <`slaps> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <CO^perkasa> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <cerewet> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <Acqua> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <sa24_165_50mly> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <pinkey> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <Chinese^_^Boy> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <Nurlela> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <co_29_cr_ce_ml_b> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <celessss> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <Guetym> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <K|LL> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <saggath> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <iyam> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <LuXuRiOuS> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <KissU> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <KoZtRad> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <simpleguybf> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <unoid> haha
[05:52] <elvira_36f> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <KapiteN> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
[05:52] <Maenguh> DCC SEND DCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSDCC SEND POOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDSPOOLISCLOSEDDUETOAIDS
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[05:52] <unoid> havne't seen a mass bot flood in long time
[05:52] <LadyNikon> is that th fiesty fawn flood?
[05:52] <unoid> no clue but why would someone flood a help channel
[05:52] <Thirsteh> sigh, got 157 CTCP's as well
[05:52] <LadyNikon> unoid: bored kids
[05:52] <LadyNikon> !ops
[05:52] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:53] <LadyNikon> !staff
[05:53] <danhs> xtknight: it took a while on the spiffy new racecar like workstation they just got me at work....
[05:53] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[05:53] <danhs> xtknight: disconnected for a bit
[05:53] <harry> How do I play a cd from the command line?
[05:53] <unoid> surprised this channel does have a L or Q or something to !KB
[05:54] <Thirsteh> unoid, that's Quakenet, not Freenode
[05:54] <danhs> xtknight: still there?
[05:54] <LadyNikon> well gn all
[05:54] <unoid> well freenode is cheap :P
[05:54] <LadyNikon> happy gutsy gibbon to you all
[05:54] <LadyNikon> !traffic
[05:54] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[05:54] <L0GAN> huh
[05:54] <danhs> good night
[05:54] <astro76> !ops
[05:54] <ubotu> Help!  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[05:55] <xtknight> danhs, ya worthless script kiddies came
[05:55] <xtknight> i think at the first sight of a malformed CTCP the whole channel should just completely lock for 10 mins
[05:55] <xtknight> danhs, yes
[05:55] <ISS_Student> Is there a ubuntu help chat room
[05:55] <xtknight> danhs, are you still there? :P
[05:55] <yell0w> woohoooo
[05:55] <danhs> xtknight: yep
[05:55] <ISS_Student> I'm trying to find out how to make it so everytime I reboot I don't have to do modprobebcm43xx
[05:55] <yell0w> another ride by any chance ?
[05:55] <yell0w> :B
[05:55] <yell0w> >_>
[05:55] <xtknight> danhs, ok still building
[05:55] <localgod14> WTF WAS THAT?
[05:55] <danhs> xtknight: yea xeon 64 bit, 2 quad core 3.0 ghz or something like that....
[05:55] <weirdbro> Has anyone heard of a bizarre bug that makes domains start to point to the wrong websites?
[05:55] <danhs> it's pretty sweet actually....
[05:55] <weirdbro> I have wifi, which could be part of it
[05:55] <xtknight> danhs, sadly compiles use just one core
[05:55] <xtknight> danhs, unless you hack them a bit
[05:56] <RonDamon_> Hola muy buenas
[05:56] <xtknight> danhs, i have a dual and i can barely use it :(
[05:56] <weirdbro> It happened to me a few months ago in the beat
[05:56] <danhs> xtknight, heh.....
[05:56] <weirdbro> I would have assumed it would have been fixed
[05:56] <localgod14> did everyone just get kciked off or was it jsut me?
[05:56] <weirdbro> just you
[05:56] <Comrade-Sergei> Pici, I got it going Im in ubuntu right now! w00t!
[05:56] <xtknight> world fell off its axis temporarily
[05:56] <KLIMUSIC> i think I'm still here
[05:56] <danhs> xtknight: it's nice for not bogging down your machine when you're running something a little intense
[05:56] <anavarro> hi, dell vostro notebook have sound configuration problem
[05:56] <danhs> then your machine still works
[05:56] <test1000oct11> how can i put ubuntu livecd on a flash drive. my laptop is windows but i want to try ubuntu. i do not have a cd-rom drive.
[05:56] <ddcc> isstudent you could try using cron
[05:56] <xtknight> danhs, indeed.  Gutsy seems exponentialyl better than previous versions of ubuntu for multitasking too.  it has a new Scheduler
[05:57] <anavarro> can you help me?
[05:57] <PanzerMKZ> oh nice
[05:57] <xtknight> even at like 200% cpu i can still do stuff
[05:57] <danhs> xtknight: Gutsy?
[05:57] <xtknight> !gutsy
[05:57] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:57] <xtknight> danhs, release in a week or so
[05:57] <danhs> is that the next version after feisty?
[05:57] <Comrade-Sergei> yea
[05:57] <danhs> Can I apt-get that or do I have to do some involved process?
[05:57] <xtknight> danhs, apt-get that too ;)
[05:57] <willwill> test1000oct11$ http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install-for-linux-users/
[05:58] <danhs> nice....
[05:58] <xtknight> !upgrade | danhs, well roughly.
[05:58] <ubotu> danhs, well roughly.: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:58] <xtknight> you can either use apt-get or a simple GUI method
[05:58] <xtknight> and in a utopia it would preserve all your data and everything would work great.
[05:58] <xtknight> sometimes you run into issues though
[05:58] <danhs> xtknight, right....you mean, synaptic, right?
[05:58] <danhs> xtknight, ugghh....
[05:58] <xtknight> danhs, update-manager actually
[05:58] <eulogy_> Would anyone be willing to help me with Emerald theme issues?
[05:58] <anavarro> guys
[05:58] <test1000oct11> willwill: that requires for me to have a cd burner
[05:59] <danhs> xtknight: , can't believe I just installed and now will have update grief too....well at least it's clean so it shouldn't be too big of a deal
[05:59] <xtknight> :o
[05:59] <xtknight> danhs, if you have a separate /home partition it can be even easier
[05:59] <xtknight> you just destroy your system files and replace them with new ones
[05:59] <anavarro> can anybody help me with dell vostro notebook have sound problem
[05:59] <xtknight> of course that's not always perfect either
[05:59] <xtknight> but it's generally good
[05:59] <ezzieyguywuf> anyone here running gutsy on a t60p?
[06:00] <Comrade-Sergei> anavarro, wow arent those the new ones?
[06:00] <danhs> xtknight: I do not.....I'm an inexperienced linux user....a little experience previously, but I thought that for fast computation linux was a better choice then windows 64 bit xp
[06:00] <danhs> which is a crappy OS
[06:00] <danhs> and it'
[06:00] <xtknight> danhs, well linux is easier to control
[06:00] <xtknight> windows is just a black box
[06:00] <danhs> and it's anti-Unix multi user stuff....
[06:00] <anavarro> yes this one
[06:00] <xtknight> you dont know what's going on
[06:00] <ezzieyguywuf> is anyone running gutsy on a t60p?
[06:00] <willwill> test1000oct11$ it seem that it only copy file from cd, you can loopmounting it(u have to create a dir and run sudo mount -o loop imagename.iso nameoffolder)
[06:00] <Comrade-Sergei> anavarro, how is it?
[06:00] <danhs> xtknight: But, I'd have to be an expert of your caliber to really make that knowledge useful
[06:00] <danhs> no?
[06:00] <zach_> what can i use to install nvidia drivers?
[06:01] <Comrade-Sergei> zach envy
[06:01] <astro76> !envy
[06:01] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:01] <xtknight> danhs, is this a rhetorical question?  :P  of course not
[06:01] <Comrade-Sergei> zach_ envy
[06:01] <Geoffrey2> my immediate question would be, is anyone actually running Gutsy?
[06:01] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei: dell vostro 1500
[06:01] <xtknight> danhs, oh do you mean the /home or the control of linux?
[06:01] <Comrade-Sergei> anavarro, there arent any linux drivers on dell?
[06:01] <zach_> thanks mate
[06:01] <ezzieyguywuf> :-) is anyone running gutsy?
[06:01] <danhs> xtknight: Both, I suppose.  Sincere question from a linux newb
[06:01] <anavarro> i can configure some thing
[06:01] <bullgard4> Example 2: (Device Manager) "Platform device (pcspkr)".
[06:01] <thedonvaughn> I am.
[06:01] <Comrade-Sergei> anavarro, or havent you enabled repos and done an update yet?
[06:02] <ezzieyguywuf> i tried it for like, 5 minutes and found it was slightly slower and ran hotter on my t60p so i fresh installed feisty :-/
[06:02] <mmkassem> ezzieyguywuf : Gusty channel is #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'platform device'? Example 1: (Wikipedia) "Linux distributions including Debian GNU/Linux, MontaVista Linux, openSUSE, Yellow Dog Linux, Gentoo Linux and Crux PPC are also available for the Pegasos. Support for the Pegasos as a platform device has been integrated into the Linux kernel mainline as of kernel version 2.6.13."
[06:02] <xtknight> danhs,  everyone can benefit from a separate /home parition easily.  of course, you will have to learn some stuff to control linux fully. but at least you know you can get to that point.  with linux , you can open the box.  with windows, you have to try and cut through diamond
[06:02] <bullgard4> Example 2: (Device Manager) "Platform device (pcspkr)".
[06:02] <duoalex> qui parle FRANCAIS
[06:02] <xtknight> that's not to say cutting through diamond isnt possible it's just more difficult ;)
[06:02] <danhs> xtknight: Good analogy.  Are you a C programming guru, or is that not so necessary?
[06:02] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei: then main problem for me is the soundcard
[06:03] <xtknight> danhs, guess i am a tad  but it's not necessary
[06:03] <Comrade-Sergei> anavarro, its a laptop right?
[06:03] <xtknight> danhs, it's like learning anything else really
[06:03] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei: seams to be a sigmatel
[06:03] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei:  yes
[06:03] <xtknight> danhs, envision your AP physics class, but instead AP ubuntu ;)
[06:03] <thedonvaughn> been using linux for 15 years.  still learning.  never stops :)
[06:03] <xtknight> lol
[06:03] <Comrade-Sergei> anavarro, lol i had problems with a sigmatel card in a desktop i built with linux once
[06:04] <danhs> haha....AP physics required Calculus....
[06:04] <Comrade-Sergei> brb gotta reboot!
[06:04] <danhs> C programming == calculus
[06:04] <anavarro> my good
[06:04] <frostburn> no way, c programming == algebra
[06:04] <xtknight> arithmetic ..
[06:04] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei: do you solve your problem?
[06:04] <L0GAN> is it difficult to make a new live CD-ROM with specific applications installed?
[06:04] <xtknight> !custom | L0GAN
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about custom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <xtknight>  i think so
[06:04] <xtknight> i just forgot the factoid
[06:04] <xtknight> !livecd
[06:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[06:04] <danhs> xtknight, so you're a junior or senior?
[06:05] <xtknight> danhs, senior
[06:05] <danhs> AP physics was great fun btw....
[06:05] <xtknight> HS though
[06:05] <danhs> I got a 780 on physics SAT 2
[06:05] <Konam> hi
[06:05] <xtknight> danhs, hey let's take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:05] <danhs> studied for maybe a month....easiest SAT2 ever
[06:05] <L0GAN> xtknight : thanks
[06:05] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei: i was chating with dell people and they send me with sigmatel people
[06:05] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei: and with ubuntu people
[06:05] <test1011oct12> willwill: sorry i got disconnected. is there a way for me to read your response? i am newbie.
[06:06] <q_a_z_steve> trying to mount VISTA in dapper. I get error device /dev/hdb5 is not removable error: could not execute pmount help?
[06:06] <joshin247> pastebin
[06:07] <Konam> how can I change the name of my username after the install? is it impossible?
[06:07] <willwill> test1011oct12$ if u use xchat, scroll up or use /grep test1011oct12
[06:07] <willwill> test1011oct12$ <willwill> test1000oct11$ it seem that it only copy file from cd, you can loopmounting it(u have to create a dir and run sudo mount -o loop imagename.iso nameoffolder)
[06:07] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei: are you there?
[06:08] <weirdbro> I've got a dns bug that will render Ubuntu useless for me unless someone can help me fix it
[06:08] <q_a_z_steve> what's the syntax for something like: dmesg tail 30
[06:08] <weirdbro> I already looked in the bugs
[06:08] <weirdbro> Firefox
[06:08] <weirdbro> possibly other programs
[06:09] <pike_> docta_v: i think sudo usermod -l newusername oldusername  may be easiest way for you
[06:09] <pike_> Konam: ^
[06:09] <anavarro> Comrade-Sergei: the sound card for my laptop is stac97xx
[06:09] <weirdbro> Some domain names start to point towards other one's I've loaded
[06:09] <Geoffrey2> after running lspci -vvnn, how can I tell what a particular device is?
[06:09] <Konam> pike_ ok
[06:09] <Grundoko> hey. i was wondering how to setup KDE on ubuntu
[06:10] <Grundoko> im using gnome right now
[06:10] <pike_> Grundoko: its one command away
[06:10] <astro76> Grundoko, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[06:10] <Grundoko> how
[06:10] <eulogy_> Im having trouble applying emerald themes in Emerald themer. Clicking on it doesn't seem to apply the settings like the posts I've read in forums.
[06:10] <anavarro> anybody can help me with a sound card problem on dell vostro laptop?
[06:10] <Shrimpy_> Grundoko; use synaptic package manager
[06:10] <Grundoko> pike. what command is it
[06:10] <willwill> Grundoko$ system>administration>synaptic package manager and find a package named "kubuntu-desktop" then install it
[06:11] <weirdbro> Can anyone help me diagnose a serious DNS flaw I have?
[06:11] <Shrimpy_> Grundoko: then when you restart your computer. in the log in screen. change the session to kde
[06:12] <joshin247> anyone in know anything about FPIT
[06:12] <joshin247> drivers
[06:12] <Grundoko> the command Grundoko$ system>administration>synaptic package manager isnt working
[06:12] <willwill>  serv  svn?
[06:13] <willwill> sorry, wrong room
[06:13] <astro76> !synaptic | Grundoko
[06:13] <ubotu> Grundoko: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:13] <Grundoko> so is that like the add remove programs thing?
[06:13] <astro76> Grundoko, it's in the System > Admin Menu
[06:13] <Grundoko> or is that the update manager
[06:13] <Ashfire908> what is a really good tutorial for using a command line interface
[06:13] <notdarkyet> how do i save and exit vim?
[06:13] <notdarkyet> ?
[06:13] <Grundoko> ok
[06:13] <Grundoko> i see it
[06:14] <yell0w> notdarkyet, :wq enter
[06:14] <bullgard4> Was ist gemeint mit 'platform device'? (Wikipdia:)"Linux distributions  including Debian GNU/Linux, MontaVista Linux, openSUSE, Yellow Dog Linux, Gentoo  Linux and Crux PPC are also available for the Pegasos. Support for the Pegasos as a platform device has been integrated into the Linux kernel mainline as of kernelversion 2.6.13." (Device Manager:) "Platform device (pcspkr)".
[06:14] <anavarro> there is no drivers for sigmatel STAC97xx audio card?
[06:15] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'platform device'? Example 1: (Wikipedia) "Linux distributions including Debian GNU/Linux, MontaVista Linux, openSUSE, Yellow Dog Linux, Gentoo Linux and Crux PPC are also available for the Pegasos. Support for the Pegasos as a platform device has been integrated into the Linux kernel mainline as of kernel version 2.6.13."
[06:15] <Ashfire908> !tutorial > Ashfire908
[06:15] <bullgard4> Example 2: (Device Manager) "Platform device (pcspkr)".
[06:15] <yell0w> !pastebin > bullgard4
[06:15] <sc0tch> In /var/cache/apt/archives I see multiple/older versions of packages I have installed, is it safe to delete those manually, or is there an automated tool to maintain that list?
[06:16] <Ashfire908> yell0w that was a question with a large example
[06:16] <yell0w> sc0tch, sudo aptitude clean/autoclean
[06:16] <Ashfire908> yell0w not something for a pastebin
[06:17] <sc0tch> yello0w, is that safe if those packages were not installed via aptitude. (apt-get)
[06:17] <yell0w> yes
[06:17] <yell0w> just delete them
[06:17] <linux_beginner> !tutorial > linux_beginner
[06:17] <eulogy_> Can someone help me with an Emerald issue? I get this error in terminal when I click on a theme in Emerald Theme Manager -(emerald:7295): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_drawable_unref: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed
[06:17] <Ashfire908> sc0tch, aptitude is just an interface for apt
[06:18] <anavarro> heeeellllllppppppp!!!!!
[06:18] <anavarro> drop me a line
[06:18] <yell0w> anavarro, ?
[06:18] <Ashfire908> anavarro, one, don't yell or say "LOOK AT ME I NEED HELP"
[06:19] <sc0tch> I was under the assumption aptitude did its own package tracking, but I'm glad to here I can work with both when needed.
[06:19] <Ashfire908> anavarro, search the ubuntu fourms for STAC97xx
[06:19] <anavarro> this is the problem
[06:19] <anavarro> nothing seams work
[06:20] <yell0w> sc0tch, if you've used one for a while, stick to it
[06:20] <atlfalcons866> how do i defrag jfs
[06:20] <notdarkyet> can you exit vim while in insert mode by typing :wq because its not working for me
[06:20] <Grundoko> ok i found the package manager
[06:20] <Grundoko> now what
[06:21] <sc0tch> I've always used apt-get. most comfortable with command line. Thanks for the info yell0w.
[06:21] <yell0w> notdarkyet, escape to get back to command mode
[06:21] <larson9999> notdarkyet, hit escape first
[06:21] <alex_mayorga> can someone "translate" this guide to ubuntu http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Configure_a_bluetooth_network_access_point
[06:21] <notdarkyet> thank you that worked
[06:21] <larson9999> notdarkyet, you can set the settings so it tells you which mode you're in.
[06:21] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: as you seem to know something, can you help me with a mount error
[06:21] <q_a_z_steve> ?
[06:21] <yell0w> sc0tch, np
[06:21] <pike_> Grundoko: search for whatever package you want.  if youre just begining to learn ubuntu you might consider sticking with gnome. but anyway once its installed you choose which to login to at the login screen by clicking 'sessions' button
[06:22] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, what is the issue
[06:22] <bbardlbradd> Hey, I'm using X11, can someone tell my why, after I ./configure it tells me "XML Parser...configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"?
[06:22] <Grundoko> i selected KDE and theres like a hundred things there to check
[06:22] <Ashfire908> bbardlbradd, you are trying to build X11?
[06:22] <Grundoko> i dont know wich things to check
[06:22] <bbardlbradd> trying to build an app in X11
[06:22] <astro76> Grundoko, one package, kubuntu-desktop, that's it
[06:22] <yell0w> bbardlbradd, you need XML::Parser module
[06:23] <q_a_z_steve> trying to mount VISTA in dapper. I get error: device /dev/hdb5 is not removable error: could not execute pmount... shows as HPFS/NTFS
[06:23] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: ^^^
[06:23] <bbardlbradd> yell0w, where would I get that?
[06:23] <localgod14> how do i mount an external drive?
[06:23] <anavarro> Ashfire908: i just follow the ubuntu forum guide and does not work
[06:23] <yell0w> bbardlbradd, easiest way is to use cpan
[06:23] <bbardlbradd> I don't even know what that is
[06:23] <yell0w> !cpan
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, you need to mount an ntfs drive?
[06:23] <q_a_z_steve> in dapper, yes please
[06:23] <q_a_z_steve> do I have to install -3g?
[06:24] <yell0w> bbardlbradd, cpan is kind of like apt-get but for perl
[06:24] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, what command did you use, and why are you running dapper?
[06:24] <yell0w> bbardlbradd, cpan.org
[06:24] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: LTS.
[06:24] <pike_> Grundoko: kubuntu-desktop is what we call a meta package what that means is that it is kinda a package for packages so it will pull in the whole kubuntu 'suite'
[06:24] <bbardlbradd> yell0w, yeah, I'm there... now how do I find the module... do I only need on or must i be spacific?
[06:24] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: Places > (Mount is called VISTA) > get error I showed you.
[06:25] <astro76> !info libxml-parser-pearl | bbardlbradd
[06:25] <Grundoko> theres nothing called kubuntu desktop there
[06:25] <astro76> !info libxml-parser-perl | bbardlbradd
[06:25] <ubotu> bbardlbradd: Package libxml-parser-pearl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:25] <ubotu> bbardlbradd: libxml-parser-perl: Perl module for parsing XML files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.34-4.2build1 (feisty), package size 285 kB, installed size 704 kB
[06:25] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, LTS just means longer support, it does not mean it's better or more stable
[06:25] <Grundoko> theres kubuntu - default - settings
[06:25] <Grundoko> is that it
[06:25] <Oli``> Guys i'm on Gutsy and just applied the latest update and now all my window borders are MIA... any ideas on how to get them back?
[06:25] <pike_> Grundoko: kubuntu-desktop one word
[06:25] <astro76> !info kubuntu-desktop | Grundoko
[06:25] <ubotu> grundoko: kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[06:25] <theruneking> cal
[06:25] <Grundoko> or kde desktop
[06:25] <Ashfire908> Oli``, ask in #ubuntu+1 Gusty is still beta
[06:25] <Grundoko> is that it
[06:26] <Oli``> k
[06:26] <anavarro> no one can help me with an audio device problem on a dell vostro 1500 notebook???
[06:26] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: LTS = I don't have to upgrade as often...
[06:26] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, did you try manually mounting it?
[06:26] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, is only if you need a stable system.
[06:26] <Grundoko> kde desktop is the right package right?
[06:27] <q_a_z_steve> not as of yet, I don't appear to have anything in my mount list... rather, can you help me check.
[06:27] <astro76> Grundoko, kubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <bbardlbradd> so how do I find libxml-parser-perl
[06:27] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: doesn't everyone need a stable system???
[06:27] <Grundoko> its not there
[06:27] <pike_> Grundoko: sorry i dont know the graphical environment that well.
[06:27] <Grundoko> the closest thats there is kde dekstop
[06:27] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, type mount in a terminal
[06:27] <astro76> Grundoko, you're running feisty? and you're searching in Synaptic (not add/remove) ?
[06:27] <bbardlbradd> Oh, also, if I'm in OS X and using X11, do I get it through OS X or X11?
[06:28] <Grundoko> im running feisty
[06:28] <astro76> bbardlbradd, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, etc....
[06:28] <Grundoko> and im searching synaptic
[06:28] <Grundoko> not add remove
[06:28] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, dapper is like server level OMG IF IT GOES DOWN MY LIFE IS OVER
[06:28] <q_a_z_steve> one sec. AFK
[06:28] <astro76> bbardlbradd, no idea, this is Ubuntu support
[06:29] <yell0w> bbardlbradd, use cpan or hunt down the package and manual install it
[06:29] <bbardlbradd> ok :/
[06:29] <anavarro> ok, thanks any way
[06:29] <bbardlbradd> Tried apt-get and doesn't work
[06:29] <astro76> Grundoko, I don't know what to tell you, hit ctrl+f and search for kubuntu, it's there
[06:29] <yell0w> bbardlbradd, who do you do apt-get in osx
[06:29] <yell0w> :/
[06:29] <localgod14> fug i just got 100% of disk \ is in use
[06:29] <anavarro> good luck everybody
[06:29] <bbardlbradd> X11
[06:29] <yell0w> i didn't know they use the same apt system
[06:29] <bbardlbradd> xterm
[06:30] <q_a_z_steve> no entry for hdb5...
[06:30] <yell0w> interesting
[06:30] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: ^^
[06:30] <boselecta> um XML::Parser module is not part of X11 afaik
[06:30] <bbardlbradd> So then what's the problem?
[06:30] <ashfaq> Hello friends I need help!
[06:31] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, cause it's not mounted!
[06:31] <yell0w> boselecta, it's just a perl module, like million others i believe
[06:31] <boselecta> something to do with have to get a perl module
[06:31] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, where do you want to mount it to
[06:31] <bbardlbradd> It tells me I need it... though I'm trying to build a linux app, it should work the same in X11, right?
[06:31] <q_a_z_steve> '/vista
[06:31] <boselecta> bbardlbradd not necessarily
[06:31] <boselecta> simple apps will work if you have the right libraries and there aren't compatibility issues
[06:31] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, type sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /vista
[06:32] <boselecta> complicated ones require porting
[06:32] <yell0w> bbardlbradd, not all perl modules are loaded by default with X
[06:32] <boselecta> X11 or not.
[06:32] <yell0w> people would scream and pull their hair out if it does
[06:32] <yell0w> hahaha
[06:32] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: I knew it wasn't mounted, and I assume it won't show in 'mount' as I don't know FS and so on.
[06:32] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, type sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /vista
[06:33] <boselecta> anyway it sounds like what you need is to find a precompiled package for OS X. see finkproject.org. but really it's off-topic
[06:33] <q_a_z_steve> Ashfire908: mount point doesn't exist, can I create it?
[06:34] <Ashfire908> q_a_z_steve, did you mean the mount point is /mnt/vista or /mount/vista?
[06:34] <ashfaq> I am a newbee, would someone advise me to go for which version of ubuntu? fiesty or gutsy?
[06:34] <ray_> what
[06:34] <bbardlbradd> So then where do I get them, that's the issue... are there many modules or only one?
[06:35] <ashfaq> Yes I am an average for windows has been using it for last 10 years
[06:35] <Ashfire908> ashfaq, i would wait until the release of gusty comes out on Oct 18
[06:35] <q_a_z_steve> how's about /media/hdb5 also /vista (because I have /XP working fine)
[06:35] <yell0w> bbardlbradd, http://www.cgi-interactive-uk.com/cpan_installing_perl_modules.html
[06:35] <astro76> ashfaq, wait until thursday and install the final release gutsy
[06:35] <bbardlbradd> thx so much yell0w
[06:35] <ashfaq> Now I am running the fiesty live cd, while chatting with you
[06:36] <ashfaq> I thought I will go for installation
[06:36] <yell0w> np
[06:36] <astro76> ashfaq, go for it, you will be able to upgrade to gutsy
[06:36] <Ashfire908> ashfaq, sstill, i would wait for the gusty release
[06:36] <Ashfire908> ashfaq, but yeah hat astro76 said
[06:37] <ashfaq> Well I am losing patience!
[06:37] <ashfaq> I think astro has a point, I will have the feel atleast
[06:37] <astro76> ashfaq, install it and play around, next week you can either upgrade or clean install
[06:37] <joshin247> asfasfdasfdasfdasfdasfdasfdaf
[06:38] <ashfaq> I would like to be familiar with the dos mode as well for linux and I am advised it takes time
[06:38] <Ashfire908> ashfaq, you mean command line
[06:38] <alex_mayorga> can someone chop this thread into tiny bits I can digest http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=561303 please?
[06:38] <astro76> ashfaq, or shell
[06:38] <ray_> hello! everyone
[06:38] <ashfaq> I am just going though the available support channels and getting excited, you all folks are always their to guide
[06:38] <yell0w> ashfaq, http://ss64.com/bash/ is a good start
[06:39] <ashfaq> yeah thanks a lot I am already getting the confidence boost
[06:39] <ashfaq> yes You call it command line! yeah
[06:40] <Demortes> Anyone know if 7.10 will fix the common Realtek issue?
[06:40] <astro76> Demortes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:40] <ashfaq> Well one more thing, I dont see any talk icon in the gaim, is a utility available to talk like in messengers, like yahoo etc
[06:40] <Demortes> Good point
[06:40] <Demortes> Sorry
[06:41] <astro76> Demortes, no worries, plus people that know are there
[06:41] <astro76> ashfaq, voice?
[06:41] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i get my wireless to work in ubuntu?
[06:41] <ashfaq> Yes!
[06:41] <Ashfire908> !wireless
[06:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:41] <yell0w> ashfaq, kopete or gyachi
[06:41] <ashfaq> Is the voice listed somewhere, I dont find?
[06:41] <astro76> ashfaq, no voice in gaim/pidgin
[06:42] <ashfaq> Yellow says kopete/ gyachi?
[06:42] <ashfaq> is this available with ubuntu package
[06:42] <handl3r> hello, i need help installing sbagen on ubuntu
[06:43] <yell0w> ashfaq, gyachi support voice/webcam, kopete is prettier and only does webcam
[06:43] <ashfaq> Again the bit torrent does not have the saving funtion for the session, right!
[06:43] <ashfaq> Thanks yellow I will remember that
[06:44] <ashfaq> Any advise before installing, from you all experts!
[06:44] <dom> anyone know why my bugzilla installation takes a LONG time to respond to POSTs?
[06:44] <astro76> ashfaq, you're keeping windows on this machine?
[06:44] <astro76> ashfaq, dual-booting?
[06:44] <Ashfire908> ashfaq, if you want to keep windows do NOT used "guided enitre disk"
[06:44] <ashfaq> for sometime until I become familiar with ubuntu!
[06:45] <Ashfire908> ashfaq, also back up any important files in case you screw up with partitioning
[06:45] <astro76> ashfaq, then start on backing up important data just in case resizing the partition goes wrong,
[06:45] <pike_> ashfaq: just bite the bullet and overwright whole disk. itll be  a huge relief afterwards and kinda a little high
[06:45] <handl3r> hello, i need help installing sbagen on ubuntu: the ./mk script gives errors like cannot find stdio.h
[06:45] <Ashfire908> astro76, echo :P
[06:45] <yell0w> handl3r, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:46] <handl3r> thx
[06:46] <ashfaq> I had tried it last year and have some feel but my machine was slow and disk was low capacity, now I am equipped with the hardware stuff
[06:46] <Ashfire908> ashfaq: i would keep windows installed until you are ready to totaly switch
[06:46] <Ashfire908> ashfaq: that is if you do.
[06:47] <ashfaq> I have a preinstalled vista ultimate on one partition, and I want ubuntu entirely on one partition
[06:47] <yell0w> ashfaq, if you're loaded with hardware you might wanna do full ubuntu + vmware and windows
[06:47] <yell0w> :B
[06:47] <dom> anyone here install bugzilla?
[06:47] <ashfaq> Yes I have heard of vmware, is it possible, Yellow
[06:48] <yell0w> ashfaq, oh yes
[06:48] <ashfaq> I have amd 64 4400 with 250gb disk space into twom partitions at present
[06:48] <astro76> ashfaq, what are the partitions?
[06:49] <ashfaq> I wish to use one for ubuntu, and keep the dual os for time being
[06:49] <ashfaq> C; and D;
[06:49] <Wolf23> guys who knows about virtualbox, i want to know if usb supports or not?
[06:50] <pike_> ashfaq: youll actually want to make 3 partitions probably. / /home and swap  swap is like page file  in windows just make it like 1GB
[06:50] <ashfaq> And as yellow says, I will try the vm
[06:50] <pike_> ashfaq: default install is just 2 / and swap
[06:50] <ashfaq> Oh yes, i know linux is to be splitted for swap, thanks
[06:51] <ashfaq> Som shall I make the go! thanks for boosting my moral I shall be back to ask you more
[06:51] <astro76> ashfaq, if you don't want to mess with it, delete D, then I believe there's an option to automatically install into the free space
[06:51] <ashfaq> Yes astro I will do that
[06:52] <IcemanV9> guys/gals - i tried to edit & save /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor with SUDO .. it does NOT work .. do i have to enable root ??
[06:52] <ashfaq> Azeurus works in fiesty
[06:53] <punsad> ashfaq: linux mag just released online a how to: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4150/
[06:53] <punsad> it's called "Run your windows with VMWare"
[06:53] <punsad> I never tried it, but looks interesting
[06:54] <ashfaq> I will check that
[06:54] <ashfaq> thanks punsad
[06:54] <pike_> get vmware-server if you do i wouldnt bother with player
[06:55] <ashfaq> Pike do we get it in Ubuntu package vm server i mean
[06:55] <BUDD}{A> can someone tell me were ubuntu themes are stored so i can back them up
[06:56] <pike_> ashfaq: its in repo i guess now days
[06:56] <pike_> !info vmware-server
[06:56] <ubotu> Package vmware-server does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:56] <Wolf23> pike_:  can u help friend?
[06:56] <pike_> ashfaq: nm lol i normally get the installer from vmware website
[06:56] <ashfaq> see what uboto has to say
[06:57] <aguiar> bye ppl
[06:57] <pike_> Wolf23: whats up?
[06:57] <ashfaq> okay I will try the website link than
[06:57] <IcemanV9> !vmware
[06:57] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:57] <ashfaq> Whats the difference, in player and server
[06:57] <Wolf23> pike_:  are u friend with vbox?
[06:58] <pike_> ashfaq: player is pretty limited
[06:58] <pike_> Wolf23: sorry no
[06:58] <L0GAN> I'm on Ubuntu live CD now :)
[06:58] <ashfaq> I thought it is just like windows media player like for music and videos
[06:58] <L0GAN> is there a way to use a USB stick with a particular name to allow saving settings and installed apps?
[06:59] <pike_> ashfaq: its difficult to describe
[06:59] <astro76> !persistence | L0GAN
[06:59] <ubotu> L0GAN: To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[06:59] <heartsblood> is there any package that I can install that will let me mount a ntfs-3g fs?
[06:59] <jimmacdonald> !dist-upgrade
[06:59] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:59] <L0GAN> thanks astro
[06:59] <heartsblood> oh wait I think I just answered my own question
[06:59] <ashfaq> Okay thanks you all pal now let me start with the installation see you all later
[07:00] <ryctor> ntfs-config
[07:00] <Wolf23> astro76:  any request?
[07:00] <zeddicus> Ok I have a question that I can't find an answer to. What does modprobe do?
[07:00] <ryctor> load modules
[07:00] <astro76> Wolf23, what?
[07:01] <Wolf23> astro76:  do u know if usb works on vbox?
[07:01] <nathex> Hey, is ndiswrapper supported in any wireless scanning programs? like SWScanner or Prismstumbler?
[07:01] <astro76> Wolf23, no idea
[07:01] <ashfaq> I am still hanging around
[07:02] <kay> morning all
[07:02] <zeddicus> Everytime my system boots I have to do modprobe bcm43xx, I'm trying to figure out how to make it so I don't have to do that so is there a utility or something I can run to add that command to boot sequence?
[07:02] <ashfaq> astro76 is it advisable at my stage to understand vmware as advised, I am getting jumbled up
[07:02] <ryctor> zeddicus: dude , google modprobe, or rtfm!
[07:03] <kay> can someone help with ubuntu and php install ? i just cant get to my webpage
[07:03] <astro76> ashfaq, if you don't want to install ubuntu, you can install it in vmware in windows, otherwise just install ubuntu
[07:03] <astro76> ashfaq, and dual boot
[07:03] <ryctor> add it to /etc/modules
[07:03] <kay> .
[07:03] <larson9999> zeddicus, if i'm not mistaken, that's blacklisted by default.
[07:04] <BUDD}{A> does any one know were the  themes you make  are stored
[07:04] <astro76> !rtfm | ryctor
[07:04] <ubotu> ryctor: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:05] <ryctor> what about google it?
[07:06] <astro76> ryctor, the channel mo is to either point people to help or not say anything ;)
[07:06] <zeddicus> I've already tried google so I came here to ask other users for help
[07:06] <pike_> !blacklist | zeddicus
[07:06] <ubotu> zeddicus: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[07:06] <q_a_z_steve> Wolf23: working on mounting VISTA in dapper, get error: device /dev/hdb5 is not removable error: could not execute pmount
[07:06] <larson9999> zeddicus, oh, no it's not.  add it to /etc/modprobe.conf will make it start on booting.
[07:07] <nathex> Alright, bcm43xx crashes my machine... and i'm stuck with ndiswrapper. Am I SOL with WirelessScanning? Or is there a program or patch that allows ndiswrapper to work with scanning?
[07:07] <q_a_z_steve> cd /mtn; ls -l [07:07] <q_a_z_steve> (zero)
[07:07] <kiuk> anyone know how to get sound working for a Intel HDA? I've been trying this for a long time please help
[07:07] <neclimdu2> evening everyone
[07:07] <ryctor> depends on the distro
[07:07] <yell0w> nathex, i'm running ndiswrapper with bcm4318 and use wpa-2
[07:07] <yell0w> :B
[07:08] <ryctor>  in ubuntu, to load a module at startup, edit /etc/modules
[07:08] <nathex> yell0w: wpa-2?
[07:08] <nathex> lol
[07:08] <yell0w> nathex, encryption scheme
[07:08] <q_a_z_steve> Wolf23: any suggestions, I want to mount as /media/hdb5 and sort of the same as /xp == /vista
[07:08] <nathex> yeah, I googled
[07:08] <yell0w> nathex, yes, so therefore ndiswrapper is not that bad
[07:08] <yell0w> =)
[07:08] <neclimdu2> so, i think i've got an easy question.
[07:09] <nathex> lol
[07:09] <astro76> q_a_z_steve, the usual place would be /media/vista or /media/whatever
[07:09] <q_a_z_steve> astro76: mount point doesn't exist
[07:09] <nathex> This laptop is perfect for certain activities... it's just the bcm43xx driver doesnt work with my BCM94311 card, and I reallllly want to scan :(
[07:09] <q_a_z_steve> how do I make?
[07:09] <astro76> q_a_z_steve, mkdir /media/whatever
[07:10] <astro76> q_a_z_steve, with sudo
[07:10] <neclimdu2> i'm using the fglrx driver and its crashing on startup in weird situations
[07:10] <yell0w> nathex, scan ?
[07:10] <zeddicus> larson999 Are you getting my messages
[07:10] <yell0w> erhh war driving ?
[07:10] <nathex> yell0w: kismet, SWscanner, "wardriving", lol
[07:10] <yell0w> >_>
[07:10] <neclimdu2> i'm happy to debug it myself at this point but it does this weird "fallback" think that overides the xorg log
[07:10] <yell0w> sheesh
[07:10] <neclimdu2> so i can't see why its crashing
[07:10] <q_a_z_steve> astro76: how do I make Computer > VISTA ? I have this for XP...
[07:11] <astro76> q_a_z_steve, it doesn't show up when you mount?
[07:11] <neclimdu2> anyone know how to get around the fallback thing?
[07:12] <kiuk> anyone know why I don't have the external Amplifier option in alsamixer?
[07:12] <neclimdu2> kiuk: its probably called something else
[07:12] <q_a_z_steve> mount volume name is VISTA, actually I guess I can just make /mnt/vista... however, permissions don't work
[07:13] <nathex> I'm trying to figure out if it's worth rendering my machine usless trying to screw with bcm43xx, or to stick with ndiswrapper
[07:14] <q_a_z_steve> astro76: ^^^
[07:14] <kiuk> I only have "master, PCM, Caller I, and Off-hook"
[07:14] <usser> q_a_z_steve: what doesnt work?
[07:14] <yell0w> nathex, if you've got the time and your data backed up, i don't see why not
[07:14] <q_a_z_steve> permission denied
[07:14] <usser> q_a_z_steve: when mounting or accessing?
[07:14] <q_a_z_steve> ls or opening it.
[07:14] <nathex> meh, maybe I will, lol
[07:14] <yell0w> hehehe
[07:14] <yell0w> let me knwo how it goes btw
[07:14] <yell0w> :B
[07:14] <yell0w> thehehe
[07:15] <usser> q_a_z_steve: thats because root mounted it
[07:15] <usser> q_a_z_steve: try sudo chown <yourname:yourname> /mount/point
[07:15] <nathex> I will
[07:16] <L0GAN> seems percistent doesnt work on 7.04 (stated in the page)
[07:16] <Colro> so on windows I've got a nifty piece of software that came with my motherboard to monitor fan speeds and temperatures and such called CoreCenter, think there's an alternative? most of what I find won't work with my motherboard :[
[07:17] <cube> hey could someone help me with corky
[07:17] <cube> i can't configure it right
[07:17] <pike_> conky you mean?
[07:17] <cube> yeah
[07:17] <usser> Colro: did u try lm_sensors?
[07:18] <pike_> what isnt working?
[07:18] <L0GAN> hmm i need to partition the stick!?
[07:18] <cube> it loads at the bottom i can't configure it
[07:18] <L0GAN> cant I just name it casper-rw?
[07:18] <cube> the how to just doesn't work for me
[07:18] <L0GAN> and have no partition?
[07:19] <neclimdu2> hmm... ok on my own i guess
[07:19] <L0GAN> but I guess settings cannot be saved using 7.04 and 7.10
[07:19] <Bensa> robc4: it sooo did not work.
[07:20] <pike_> cube: conky -a top,left or whatnot
[07:20] <L0GAN> (for live cd)
[07:20] <cube> nah its at the bottom left
[07:20] <cube> and i don't know how to configure it
[07:20] <L0GAN> is there somewhere where I can get specific advise?
[07:21] <jonathans> hey im looking for software to run a virtual pc, any good software out there?
[07:21] <Colro> usser: i don't think i have yet, ill try it in a few minutes
[07:21] <cube> jonathan look up vm ware
[07:21] <jonathans> cube, Vmware server or workstation ?
[07:21] <cube> i would guess workstation
[07:22] <usser> Colro: lm-sensors
[07:22] <jonathans> cube, thanks
[07:22] <neclimdu2> jonathans: i think he's actually refering to the player
[07:23] <jonathans> neclimdu2, ? not the player, i need something like virtual PC in ms
[07:23] <LiMaO> if anyone here using 64bit feisty or gutsy and willing to have java+flash working (thru a firefox32 install along with the one you already have), just let me know. i've written a script that will get all the job done automatically
[07:23] <pike_> jonathans: vmware-server is free
[07:23] <dibblego> if I install the gutsy release candidate, is it just a matter of apt-get upgrade to get the actual release when it comes?
[07:23] <jonathans> pike_, and can i run other distros under that >
[07:23] <jonathans> ?*
[07:24] <ebirtaid> apt-get dist-upgrade I think
[07:24] <L0GAN> im in #ubuntu-livecd
[07:24] <Bensa> Question: Running an old (very old) version of Ubuntu here-  hoary. I don't have an install CD for the latest, so I've been trying to update it to breezy, and then to the next, and so forth. When I attempt to update to breezy, I get a 404 file not found error.  I've tried skipping breezy and going straight to dapper, but that didn't work.  (Ubuntu wouldn't boot after I got past the part of removing the current kernel and replacing it). Any suggestions (usi
[07:24] <Bensa> ng what I have?)
[07:24] <cube> lol click install dude
[07:24] <pike_> jonathans: yes if you want. linux freebsd windows i even ran osx in vmware once but it was crazy slo
[07:24] <kay> can someone help with broken package ?
[07:24] <jonathans> ah ohk thanks
[07:24] <ebirtaid> bensa you will need to download an iso and burn it or order a cd
[07:24] <cube> so how do i configure conky
[07:25] <ebirtaid> cube there is a giant thread on the forums about configuring conky
[07:25] <pike_> cube: what do you want to configure?
[07:25] <Bensa> Obirtaid: Tried that. I can't burn the ISO (something with my hardware). I've ordered a CD, but I'd still like to upgrade to breezy, if possible.  Are the upgrade no longer availible?
[07:25] <pike_> yeah id see the thread
[07:25] <ebirtaid> bensa: breezy nor hoary are supported anymore and the repos are closed
[07:26] <ebirtaid> so no
[07:26] <cube> alright where
[07:26] <ebirtaid> cube: search for beautiful conky
[07:26] <Bensa> ebirtaid: darn.  *lol*
[07:26] <Bensa> ebirtaid: what about Xandros.  Can I still upgrade from 3.0?  (Old versions, I know)
[07:27] <ebirtaid> bensa: not sure, don't run it
[07:27] <xjkx> can i install ubuntu using chroot?
[07:29] <smmagic> Anyone here that can help me?
[07:29] <ebirtaid> maybe?
[07:29] <smmagic> Umm
[07:29] <smmagic> I tried to get direct rendering on my card by using nvidia driver
[07:30] <L0GAN> why do i need to partition the USB stick to use it as storage for settings?
[07:30] <smmagic> But now my max resolution is 860 x 640 or soemthing
[07:30] <ebirtaid> how did you install the driver
[07:30] <smmagic> Restricted drivers manager
[07:30] <FunnyLookinHat> 800x600 right?
[07:31] <smmagic> Yes
[07:31] <FunnyLookinHat> :)
[07:31] <smmagic> Can I switch my resolution to one that isnt supported or something
[07:31] <ebirtaid> you could try using envy
[07:31] <ebirtaid> I've heard lots of good things
[07:31] <FunnyLookinHat> errr...
[07:31] <smmagic> envy?
[07:31] <Don64> !envy
[07:31] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:31] <FunnyLookinHat> Don't use envy unless you are running dapper or something old like it
[07:32] <ebirtaid> gtk-icon-theme-name = "tango-n"
[07:32] <ebirtaid> er
[07:32] <ebirtaid> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:32] <smmagic> "this script may break your machine very badly"
[07:32] <smmagic> Not sure about that
[07:32] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, Don't use it
[07:32] <ebirtaid> I said I've heard good things, never used it
[07:32] <smmagic> I rather not go for scripts or anything
[07:33] <smmagic> Like yesterday someone told me to refresh x windows
[07:33] <smmagic> Or something like that
[07:33] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, what graphics card do you have?
[07:33] <ebirtaid> do you have the resolutions you are looking for listed in your xorg.conf
[07:33] <FunnyLookinHat> And are you running feisty/
[07:33] <smmagic> Yes
[07:33] <smmagic> Nvidia vanta something
[07:33] <smmagic> New card with the computer
[07:34] <Xacarith> hmmm?  Some one has gotten nvidia drivers to work in linux?
[07:34] <smmagic> NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT]
[07:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Xacarith, most have,they work great
[07:34] <smmagic> And PCI
[07:34] <Xacarith> I mean the ones that nvidia provides
[07:34] <smmagic> Might help a bit, when I start ubuntu it says failed to allocate pci mem resource
[07:34] <FunnyLookinHat> Ahh ok, that's a lower end card
[07:35] <smmagic> But did that before custom driver
[07:35] <smmagic> Dang right LOL
[07:35] <kay> how to enable php5 Module on ubuntu server ?
[07:35] <jrib> !nvidia > Xacarith (read the private message from ubotu)
[07:35] <smmagic> So any idea how to get 1024 x 768 resolution?
[07:35] <thedonvaughn> Xacarith: those are the ones from nvidia.
[07:35] <jrib> !php > kay (read the private message from ubotu)
[07:35] <thedonvaughn> Xacarith: ubuntu doesn't write their own :) Just package it
[07:36] <kay> ty jrib
[07:36] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, Yup, we're just going to have to do a bit of editing in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[07:36] <FunnyLookinHat> First, we're going to try to use dpkg-reconfigure
[07:36] <smmagic> gededit something?
[07:37] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, Go ahead and backup your old xorg.conf file (in a console type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_BACKUP
[07:37] <RequinB4> anyone want to help me get a module i'm missing - modprobe doesn't like me
[07:37] <smmagic> Did that I think
[07:37] <smmagic> Asked for password
[07:37] <smmagic> Then nothing else happened
[07:37] <elitepanda> nick y3k
[07:38] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, ok then it worked
[07:38] <smmagic> Do I need to be root?
[07:38] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, now do this in a console:     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:38] <y3k> is there another sound controller other than ALSA?
[07:38] <zeddicus> Ok I've done some research and have my wireless working, however I am having problems on reboot. I do from a terminal and type modprobe bcm43xx then I do ifconfig and it shows the wireless as eth1. I then try and reboot and I have to go through this again. When I add to modeprobe.conf the line alias eth1 bcm43xx it doesn't work. Any help is appreciated
[07:38] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, sudo takes the place of root
[07:38] <smmagic> What do I do now
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, now go through the menu choices after running that command, be sure to choose "nvidia" as the driver when it asks, and also be sure to select 1024x768 when it asks about resolutions
[07:39] <Helmi> hi all - does anyone know where ubuntu/nautilus saves the connections i establish via "places"?
[07:39] <Xacarith> any one off hand know how to get a partitioned hard drive mounted?
[07:39] <joel> any reson why i wouldnt be able to execute a bin file?
[07:39] <smmagic> It doesnt say nvidia
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> joel, you might have to chmod +x file.bin
[07:39] <joel> did
[07:39] <smmagic> Oh nvm
[07:39] <knoppix> hui.
[07:39] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, : )
[07:39] <joel> still same error
[07:40] <smmagic> Do I call it the card name?
[07:40] <knoppix> i am new to heree.
[07:40] <ebirtaid> joel what is the error
[07:40] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, after you go through ALL of those options (you'll have to choose mostly defaults for the values you are unsure of) , just do control + alt + backspace to restart your x server
[07:40] <joel> bash: ./PlaneShift_CBV0.3.019-x86.bin: cannot execute binary file
[07:40] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, yup, just leave the default values for stuff you are unsure of (basically everything except the driver (nvidia) and the resolutions (add 1024,768))
[07:41] <vice> hi!
[07:41] <ebirtaid> is there a readme or install file that came with it?
[07:41] <joel> btw hello everyone
[07:41] <kay> jrib , i have installed that packages, but instead of apache2 i am using lighttpd. when i load page, it drops me a window so webserver is working but it pops out  to save *.php file. can u help ?
[07:41] <joel> negative just that file
[07:41] <vice> why?
[07:41] <smmagic> Do I identify BusID?
[07:42] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, just use the default value
[07:42] <ebirtaid> do you have permission to access the file?
[07:42] <smmagic> I can't press ok
[07:42] <joel> yes
[07:42] <ebirtaid> file might be corrupt then
[07:42] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, what are you options?
[07:42] <joel> i get these kinds of errors all the time, on just about everything i try to run
[07:42] <smmagic> Ok
[07:42] <smmagic> That is it
[07:43] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic,    : )
[07:43] <smmagic> I press enter and it doesn't work
[07:43] <vice> so good
[07:43] <ebirtaid> odd
[07:43] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, what do you mean "it doesn't work" ?
[07:43] <ebirtaid> can you execute any of them as root?
[07:43] <smmagic> Doesn't press ok
[07:44] <smmagic> I press enter and it stays at BusID thing
[07:44] <FunnyLookinHat> You're going to have to hit TAB to make it highlight "OK" then hit enter
[07:44] <FunnyLookinHat> I think
[07:45] <smmagic> Smart one =p
[07:45] <smmagic> Do I live the bus identifer as is?
[07:45] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, : )   I forgot myself, I had to check by running the command
[07:45] <smmagic> PCI : 1 : 0 : 0
[07:45] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, Yeah just leave it
[07:45] <joel> sometimes, i get the errors a few times then i try again later on after reading up a bunch, do the same thing and then it magically works.....
[07:45] <kerry_> i try to install linux on 10gig but it was install on 57 gig.how do i shrink linux?
[07:46] <smmagic> gparted
[07:46] <Demortes> Anyone here know a lot about Ubuntu and Windows? Particularly, how it handles NTFS file systems....
[07:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Demortes, sure do
[07:46] <smmagic> Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[07:46] <ebirtaid> the only things I have read about it are having the binary not identify which shell to use
[07:46] <ebirtaid> dunno
[07:46] <kerry_> Demortes: install ntfs-config
[07:46] <FunnyLookinHat> Demortes, Ubuntu by default can READ ntfs file systems, but you have to install a special driver to get WRITE support
[07:46] <Demortes> OK, this is primarily a windows issue, however I hope that someone here can tell me anyhow.
[07:47] <kerry_> i try to install linux on 10gig but it was install on 57 gig.how do i shrink linux?
[07:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Demortes, yeah just follow what kerry_ said   : D
[07:47] <Demortes> Well, I use Wubi, so it must install it for me
[07:47] <Ste-Foy> ok thx FunnyLookinHat
[07:47] <Demortes> uses ntfs-3g?
[07:47] <kay> webserver works but i have php5 problem i think , can someone help ?
[07:47] <smmagic> Just press no?
[07:47] <FunnyLookinHat> Demortes, yup, it uses ntfs-3g
[07:47] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, yeah just go with the default
[07:47] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, hit enter   :)
[07:48] <smmagic> Auto detect keyboard layout would be a yes?
[07:48] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, mmhmm
[07:48] <kerry_> Demortes: not ntfs-3g just install ntfs-config it comes whit ntfs-3g
[07:48] <Demortes> Anyhow, in Windows, I cut and paste a file and Windows tells me access is denied after that... in certain directories, no pattern found. Anyhow, in Ubuntu, I can read it, and if I copy the file, windows works perfectly. However if I rename, it does nothing... any idea?
[07:48] <ebirtaid> joel:  if you type sh./whatever.bin will it work?
[07:48] <ebirtaid> er
[07:48] <ebirtaid> sh ./whatever.bin
[07:48] <smmagic> How can I tell me keyboard model?
[07:49] <joel> ill try real fast
[07:49] <RequinB4> Can anyone say what the pro/cons are of running windows under virtualbox
[07:49] <ebirtaid> requin:  it depends what you are trying to accomplish
[07:49] <joel> ./PlaneShift_CBV0.3.019-x86.bin: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[07:49] <Demortes> Req, one pro is you can't install WoW under Wine, but you can RUN it.
[07:50] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, plug-n-play technolgy
[07:50] <ebirtaid> joel I am thinking it was compiled for a different architecture
[07:50] <usser> RequinB4: pros: full compatibility with windows software cons: slow, no direct access to hardware, needs at least 1024mb RAM
[07:50] <smmagic> Ok..How do I go back
[07:50] <ebirtaid> you should try and use .deb files when possible
[07:50] <joel> ill check into it from the source
[07:50] <joel> thanks
[07:50] <bullgard4> Is there somebody in this channel running a laptop computer? What value does show Gnome panel > icon Power Manager > laptop battery > design charge? (With me it's 17.3 Wh.)
[07:51] <ebirtaid> yea if you can get the source files compiling it should work
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, why do you have to go back?
[07:51] <Ashfire908> does ubuntu/sshd automaticly logout users whose connections have failed?
[07:51] <Meroigo_> I'm trying to install some updates but it says another synaptic is running, but I can't find any in the system monitor :/
[07:51] <smmagic> I just put PCI: 0: 1 or something
[07:51] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, instead of the default values you mean?
[07:51] <smmagic> That was the default
[07:51] <ebirtaid> meroigo_:  in a terminal type ps -x |grep synaptic
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, then don't go back, keep going
[07:52] <IcemanV9> Meroigo_: pgrep synaptic in the terminal
[07:52] <smmagic> Mouse port?
[07:52] <smmagic> /dev/input/mice?
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, keep hitting enter
[07:52] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, yeah that's fine, keep hitting enter
[07:52] <ebirtaid> chuckle
[07:52] <RequinB4> usser - how slow?  I have 2 gigs RAM and can upgrade to 4, duel core centrino... basically is it annoyingly slow or just moderatly
[07:53] <Meroigo_> hah, how buggy, the synaptic with that ID isn't listed in system monitor =) ok, how do I kill an app with an ID in the termnial?
[07:53] <smmagic> Video modes used by the X server?
[07:53] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hello everyone
[07:53] <smmagic> 1024 x 768 is already ticked
[07:53] <Demortes> Anyhow, in Windows, I cut and paste a file and Windows tells me access is denied after that... in certain directories, no pattern found. Anyhow, in Ubuntu, I can read it, and if I copy the file, windows works perfectly. However if I rename, it does nothing... any idea?
[07:53] <ebirtaid> kill -9 pid
[07:53] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, oh really, well uncheck everything except 1024x768
[07:54] <smmagic> Whoops
[07:54] <usser> RequinB4: it'll work fine what i mean is slow startup, u'll be waiting for windows to boot up for christ sakes it takes at least 2 minutes :)
[07:54] <smmagic> Pressed enter by mistake
[07:54] <smmagic> Need to go bakc..
[07:54] <RequinB4> usser - thank you
[07:54] <ebirtaid> smmagic if you keep going you can add the resolutions later manually
[07:55] <smmagic> Done I think
[07:55] <smmagic> But no 1024 x 768
[07:55] <kay> anyone familiar with enabling php5 in ubuntu ?
[07:55] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, ok do a control + alt + backspace, log back in, and see if you can pick the resoltuion
[07:55] <Meroigo_> thanks ebirtaid
[07:55] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, that's because you hvae to restart your x server
[07:55] <ebirtaid> np
[07:56] <smmagic> Ok..
[07:56] <smmagic> Good resolution
[07:56] <smmagic> LEGEND!
[07:56] <Ashfire908> how do i check if a ssh connection has been droped on the server end
[07:57] <smmagic> You are a legend!
[07:57] <smmagic> Thank you so much!
[07:57] <smmagic> :D :D :D :D
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, haha, no worries
[07:57] <smmagic> And I have to go
[07:57] <smmagic> Thank you again!
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> smmagic, have a good evening  : )
[07:57] <smmagic> 4 in the afternoon
[07:57] <smmagic> =P
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> ;)
[07:57] <bullgard4> Is there somebody in this channel running a laptop computer? What value does show Gnome panel > icon Power Manager > laptop battery > design charge? (With me it's 17.3 Wh.)
[07:57] <Demortes> Heh, it's 1 in the morning here :P
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> midnight aqui
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> good ol' rocky mountains
[07:58] <bullgard4> It's 8 o'clock in Berlin.
[07:58] <thedonvaughn> bullgard4: mine is 38.0 Wh
[07:58] <Demortes> I'm in Idiots Out Walking Around.
[07:59] <bullgard4> thedonvaughn: Thank you very much.
[07:59] <Ashfire908> can i take a look at another user's ssh session on the server? (i mean look at someone's bash shell when they are logged in via ssh). i'm trying to figure out if their connection died
[07:59] <thedonvaughn> np
[07:59] <Hilikus_> hey guys, i installed a new hdd in my pc and ubuntu lists it in the file browser, yet it is not mounted, it tells me some permission error. but what i want to know is, how come the hdd is already there, not mounted and its NOT in /etc/fstab
[07:59] <tomd> Demortes: sounds like a bad independent movie or something?
[07:59] <RequinB4> I'm at 44.4 Wh bullgard4
[07:59] <Demortes> Nah, just Iowa
[07:59] <RequinB4> but that should depend on your battery
[07:59] <tomd> clever
[07:59] <bullgard4> RequinB4: Thank you very much.
[08:00] <Ashfire908> Hilikus_, you problay need to edit the fstab yourself, or at least manually mount the drive
[08:00] <RequinB4> bullgard - as an added note, if you are running a laptop and intel processer, download PowerTOP
[08:00] <bullgard4> RequinB4: Of course it depends on my battery.
[08:00] <Ashfire908> Hilikus_, is the hard drive externel
[08:00] <RequinB4> It cut my power usage almost in half
[08:00] <Hilikus_> Ashfire908 why? cant ubuntu mount it itself??
[08:00] <Hilikus_> no
[08:00] <RequinB4> though its not that great with feisty
[08:01] <Demortes> Hilikus_, you will have to either download ntfs-config (Assuming it's NTFS fs), or edit fstab yourself
[08:01] <bullgard4> RequinB4: I will wait for Gutsy. I believe that Gutsy will provide the powertop program.
[08:01] <Demortes> Hilikus_, the OS doesn't mount every HDD in the computer, just those related to it.
[08:01] <Hilikus_> ah crap, it is ntfs,i forgot about that
[08:01] <Demortes> NTFS you can mount and read, but by default, can't write to
[08:01] <mmkassem> Demortes : By default, Ubuntu mount every HDD in the computer
[08:02] <Demortes> Really?
[08:02] <Demortes> mmkassem, Why doesn't it mount my "WasExternal" HDD when I install...
[08:02] <Hilikus_> so it didnt because its ntfs?
[08:02] <thedonvaughn> gnome-volume-manager will mount the drives, specifically
[08:02] <Demortes> mmkassem, Nvm, it does, forgot that I could read, not write.
[08:02] <Demortes> Hilikus_, It wotn write to NTFS out of the box, so to speak.
[08:02] <Hilikus_> isnt writing going to be supported by defauilt in gutsy?
[08:02] <mmkassem> Demortes, Gusty provides read/write support for NTFS by default
[08:03] <mmkassem> Hilikus_ : yes
[08:03] <nathex> Hmm... I think my bcm43xx error is do too IRQ issues. Is there a setting to make sure all modules/drivers/hardware get their OWN irq, not share one?
[08:03] <Hilikus_> so im guessing its probably stable
[08:03] <tomd> hilikus_: is your user in the disk group
[08:03] <Hilikus_> since its coming out in like a week
[08:03] <thedonvaughn> Hilikus_: incubus fan?
[08:03] <thedonvaughn> sorry off topic
[08:03] <Hilikus_> thedonvaughn yep
[08:04] <Ashfire908> how do i get sshd to check for dead connections
[08:04] <Hilikus_> im guessing theres no way to convert the FS to ext3 without losing the data?
[08:05] <Hilikus_> that sounds pretty crazy to me
[08:05] <tomd> Hilikus_ why not just back the data up and then change the FS type
[08:05] <Demortes> Hilikus_, You realize that windows wont read it if you do.
[08:06] <Hilikus_> yah, i dont mind, its my mp3 hdd, so im going to make an mp3 server now
[08:06] <tomd> solution: delete windows. use linux exclusively
[08:06] <Hilikus_> and i will mount it in windows using samba
[08:06] <Demortes> tomd, Until it has more support for games, no :P
[08:06] <Hilikus_> Demortes i.e. never
[08:06] <Ashfire908> tomd: if only the world was that simple
[08:06] <Demortes> Hilikus_, Oh, it will.
[08:07] <Hilikus_> it wont
[08:07] <tomd> I guess i am a spartan
[08:07] <Hilikus_> first they would have to make games for mac, and not even that is happening
[08:07] <riotkittie> i dont see why it's crazy
[08:07] <Demortes> Hilikus_, they got games for mac
[08:07] <Hilikus_> after all, not even games for pc anymore
[08:08] <Hilikus_> too easy to pirata
[08:08] <Demortes> Hilikus_, And consoles arn't?
[08:08] <Hilikus_> nop
[08:08] <Demortes> Hilikus_, Check the modding scene.
[08:08] <Ashfire908> Hilikus_, you could use a program to copy the files from a old partition to a new one
[08:08] <Hilikus_> its big, yes, but i dont know if its more than 50%
[08:09] <tomd> well, if you do use windows make sure you don't pay for it.
[08:09] <Hilikus_> even if it is, its still harder than in a pc
[08:09] <gregorovius> is it possible to disable the trashbin in gnome for certain drives? (using gutsy beta)
[08:09] <Hilikus_> where its all software. torrent client and run
[08:09] <Demortes> tomd, you support pirates eh? :P
[08:09] <tomd> Demortes: only for select things.
[08:10] <tomd> Demortes: like the destruction of m$
[08:10] <riotkittie> piracy discussion = inappropriate. cough cough.
[08:10] <Demortes> tomd, Good man.
[08:10] <RequinB4> !piracy
[08:10] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[08:10] <Hilikus_> i actually think that microsoft hardening their antipiracy policy is bringing a lot of users to linux, specially ubuntu
[08:10] <Demortes> How can I get those ! commands to me, instead of to the channels?
[08:11] <tomd> Hilikus_ good save, please bring legitimacy to our conversation before I am booted from the channel by pedants
[08:11] <riotkittie> Demortes: /msg ubotu !command
[08:11] <RequinB4> Well their xbox 360 anti-hack system has made a lot of people mad
[08:11] <Bossmanbeta> use | person's name
[08:11] <riotkittie> or !command > yournickhere
[08:11] <Bossmanbeta> but talking to bots is a sign of mental collapse
[08:11] <Demortes> Good to know
[08:12] <Demortes> Nah, I just wanted to know what !040 was and what not
[08:12] <Hilikus_> if i want to access my hdd using samba from windows, does it have to be any particular FS or samba will simulate the FS?
[08:12] <Demortes> err, o4o
[08:12] <Ashfire908> can i kill a ssh connection?
[08:12] <Bone> Bossmanbeta, I think it would only be mental collapse if you carry on a meaningful conversation with a bot. :)
[08:12] <Bossmanbeta> many do, Bone
[08:12] <astro76> Hilikus_, the filesystem is inconsequential
[08:12] <RequinB4> There is always smarterchild
[08:12] <Demortes> Ashfire908, Youc an kill the tty process and it kills it
[08:13] <tomd> i am still pretty impressed that dell is going to distribute their pcs with ubuntu,, ive been running linux on a dell for years... and recently switched to ubuntu.. people are gonna think i went and bought one of those dellbuntus
[08:13] <Demortes> tomd, I work for a competing company.
[08:13] <Ashfire908> Demortes, the sshd for the user?
[08:13] <Redneck|Ubuntu> ok i do not know how to get the beta :(
[08:13] <Demortes> Ashfire908, No, kill the sh or bash process for the user.
[08:13] <tomd> Demortes: a competing hardware company?
[08:14] <Demortes> tomd, Versus Dell
[08:14] <tomd> Demortes: more details?
[08:14] <Demortes> tomd, OEM*
[08:14] <underwatercow> Is it reasonable to assume that Gutsy RC won't change before it's official release?
[08:14] <Demortes> tomd, Gateway/Emachines.
[08:14] <Bossmanbeta> eww
[08:14] <Ashfire908> Demortes, ok. is there a way to check if a user's connection has died?
[08:14] <Bossmanbeta> I have a very poor opinion of gateways/emachines
[08:14] <Bossmanbeta> poor hardware imho
[08:14] <Redneck|Ubuntu> anyone willing to help a n00b trying to get what ever version of gutsy is out?
[08:14] <Demortes> Ashfire908, Hmm, perhaps checking the idle time for the bash/sh shell process?
[08:15] <Demortes> Bossmanbeta, In my expierence, you buy for customer service, not HW
[08:15] <tomd> actually about 1/3 of this computer was found in the l33ttr45h
[08:15] <riotkittie> my dell would be awesome if the keyboard worked =|
[08:15] <cdm10> Redneck|Ubuntu: Nope, because first of all, this is not the place to ask about Gutsy, and second of all, noobs should not be using Gutsy.
[08:15] <Ashfire908> Demortes, if it's not near zreo the connection died?
[08:15] <RequinB4> Red - at this point you may as well just wait 7 days for the final version
[08:15] <cdm10> Redneck|Ubuntu: At least wait until the 18th, when it's released...
[08:15] <Bossmanbeta> i haven't used customer svc for a PC in decades
[08:15] <Javid> Hey, let's be jerks because he asked about Gutsy. It's fun!
[08:15] <Demortes> Ashfire908, Likely
[08:15] <riotkittie> whose being a jerk?
[08:15] <cdm10> riotkittie: probably me
[08:16] <tomd> riotkittie: :( you cant hook it up with synergy or anything?
[08:16] <Redneck|Ubuntu> this is ubuntu am i rite?
[08:16] <Javid> Redneck|Ubuntu, #ubuntu+1
[08:16] <cdm10> !gutsy | Redneck|Ubuntu
[08:16] <ubotu> Redneck|Ubuntu: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[08:16] <Demortes> Redneck|Ubuntu, /join #ubuntu+1
[08:16] <Redneck|Ubuntu> gotcha
[08:16] <Javid> Most of the same people idle in both channels, but they only know about gutsy if you ask in there.
[08:17] <Snuxoll> 'evening all
[08:17] <Snuxoll> .
[08:17] <juannicolas> Hi, I'm running ubuntu 2.6.20-15-server and I don't know why everytime I do a big file transfer from it or to it my internet is sucked up by it. I'm using it as internet gateway also.
[08:17] <riotkittie> i wish people would stop whining about the other channel.
[08:18] <Hilikus_> anyway, my original question was, how come the hdd is not in /etc/fstab and the browser sees it as unmounted?
[08:18] <cdm10> juannicolas: maybe because your big file transfer is using your internet connection up?
[08:18] <Bossmanbeta> juannicolas, file trasnfers usually use all available bandwidth, unless you employ a QoS statement
[08:19] <juannicolas> :S but why is that, i used to run bsd in the same pc and everything works fine :(
[08:19] <Hilikus_> i thought the OS didnt see hard drives unless they were in /etc/fstab
[08:19] <Bossmanbeta> juannicolas, consider employing a QoS statement in your router
[08:19] <Ahadiel> Hilikus_, You can mount them manually
[08:19] <juannicolas> Bossmanbeta can you point me to a how to?
[08:19] <Hilikus_> Ahadiel i know that
[08:20] <Bossmanbeta> what router do u run, juannicolas
[08:20] <Hilikus_> my question is, where does it store information about it EXISTING, i thought everything about partitions was in the fstab
[08:20] <juannicolas> I'm using my server as a NAT server, DHCP, and ftp
[08:20] <Demortes> Hilikus_, fstab is right.
[08:20] <riotkittie> Hilikus_: no.
[08:20] <riotkittie> there's also mtab. :D
[08:20] <Hilikus_> Demortes theres nothing in fstab about that hdd
[08:21] <foug> I am using Debian Etch at the moment and I am planning on switching to 7.10. During installation, is there a way I can select specific folders to save during installation?
[08:21] <Demortes> Hilikus_, So put it in there... copy your other partitions
[08:21] <Hilikus_> but the file browser in ubuntu lists it in the left, unmounted, but its there
[08:21] <juannicolas> Bossmanbeta  ^^
[08:21] <heartsblood> what are the advantages/disadvantages of having a ftp/sql/web/ssh server running as stand alone vs daemon in the inet SS?
[08:21] <Demortes> Hilikus_, You have to enter your own /dev/statement
[08:22] <Hilikus_> Demortes what do you mean
[08:22] <Hilikus_> /dev/statement
[08:22] <Bossmanbeta> juannicolas, you will have to google that, I have not tried to script QoS statements into Ubuntu becuase I don't use ubuntu as a router
[08:23] <juannicolas> ok, arigato
[08:23] <riotkittie> fstab = file system table, mtab = mounted file system table.
[08:23] <Demortes> Hilikus_, Like /dev/hda, or /dev/hdc1
[08:23] <Demortes> Hilikus_, Sata or IDE?
[08:23] <juannicolas> I will state my question later on for someone who maybe knows an answer for my situation. Thx
[08:23] <Hilikus_> IDE
[08:23] <Bossmanbeta> take care juannicolas
[08:24] <cduby1> I can't get mplayer/mozilla/restricted formats to work again......
[08:24] <Demortes> Hilikus_, So it's going to be /dev/hdsomething, what channel on IDE?
[08:24] <Bossmanbeta> juannicolas, you may find this helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7990
[08:24] <Bossmanbeta> just from a quick google search
[08:24] <juannicolas> thx!
[08:24] <Hilikus_> i do have a /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd i dont know if i had them before a installed the new hard drive
[08:25] <Demortes> Hilikus_, well, what's your main HDD?
[08:25] <Hilikus_> hda
[08:25] <cduby1> !restricted
[08:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:25] <Demortes> Hilikus_, Also if you have a CDROM, you'll have one of those as well
[08:25] <Hilikus_> ooh true, thats the other one
[08:25] <Redneck|Ubuntu> what does this mean?
[08:25] <Redneck|Ubuntu> (gksudo:7252): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[08:25] <Redneck|Ubuntu>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[08:25] <Hilikus_> forgot that
[08:25] <Demortes> Hilikus_, so probaly /hdd1 is what you want
[08:26] <nathex> Has anyone seen this error before? Googles not turning up much... "bcm43xx: FATAL ERROR: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR"
[08:26] <Demortes> hdd1 means IDE channel 1, device 2, partition 1 (most likely)
[08:26] <Hilikus_> so does feisty have the read-only ntfs module by defaul or i need to install it?
[08:26] <localgod12> you have to install it
[08:26] <Demortes> Hilikus_, Load terminal, sudo apt-get isntall ntfs-3g
[08:26] <Demortes> err, install, not isntall
[08:27] <Kudak> hey everyone
[08:27] <localgod12> I filled my 10gb linux partition is this normal?
[08:27] <localgod12> i am not sure how idid it
[08:27] <localgod12> its only been 2 months
[08:27] <Hilikus_> mmm i wonder if i should install the pckg, move everything somewhere else, reformat the partition to ext3 and move everything back, or just install the pckg to read AND write in NTFS and live with that
[08:27] <riotkittie> localgod12: "normal" is a relative term.
[08:27] <Demortes> I'd live with the NTFS
[08:27] <Bossmanbeta> i prefer reiserFS
[08:27] <xjkx> localgod12, do you have a home partition ?
[08:27] <Bossmanbeta> over ext3
[08:28] <localgod12> home partition?
[08:28] <Hilikus_> reisener whats better about it
[08:28] <Hilikus_> no, mp3 partition
[08:28] <Bitter> localgod12: :p
[08:28] <riotkittie> only 2 months? hm.  >_>  and i take it you havent installed 5gb of software :P
[08:28] <Bossmanbeta> it's much faster on fsck's
[08:28] <xjkx> localgod12, a separated partition to your /home
[08:28] <Bossmanbeta> and faster overall
[08:28] <localgod12> no
[08:28] <xjkx> localgod12, then its very normal
[08:28] <Hilikus_> whats fsck
[08:28] <Bossmanbeta> file system check
[08:28] <larson9999> yay! orinoco_cs is back
[08:28] <localgod12> damn
[08:28] <Bossmanbeta> like MS's chkdsk
[08:28] <Bitter> localgod12: sudo apt-get autoclean, sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:28] <Bitter> could help a little bit
[08:28] <Bossmanbeta> which ubuntu does every 30 reboots by default
[08:28] <localgod12> do i have options other than using gparted to resize
[08:29] <localgod12> o thanks
[08:29] <Bossmanbeta> or if a system shuts down suddenly
[08:29] <cduby1> is there no other way to get trailers to play in mozilla other than the mplayer plugin
[08:29] <riotkittie> xjkx: ehh. i've never used that amount of  space, and /home's on /root on all of my installs :P
[08:29] <Hilikus_> thats not a good enough reason to use a fs in my opinion
[08:29] <bullgard4> Is there somebody in this channel running a laptop computer? What value does show Gnome panel > icon Power Manager > laptop battery > design charge? (With me it's 17.3 Wh.)
[08:29] <riotkittie> err on / rather
[08:29] <Demortes> bullgard4, You got that answer a while ago... why?
[08:29] <tritium> bullgard4: that's battery-specific information
[08:29] <xjkx> riotkittie, it means you don't download much
[08:30] <Bossmanbeta> bullgard4, try kernel 2.6.21 or better, laptop battery usage has gone down 40-60% with that kernel
[08:30] <xjkx> localgod12, gparted is the better option
[08:30] <xjkx> best~
[08:30] <riotkittie> xjkx: i download quite a bit :P
[08:30] <localgod12> hold on i am running on a laptop tellme how to get there again
[08:30] <Bossmanbeta> localgod12, there is an iso you can download for gparted which will allow you to boot a live cd so you can run gparted on your partitions without issue (it also comes with a copy of clonezilla if you want to migrate whole partitions to other drives or over a network)
[08:31] <bbardlbradd> has anyone here used fink?
[08:31] <localgod12> yah i already burned the iso
[08:31] <bbardlbradd> or fink commander, more specifically
[08:31] <localgod12> iam jsut not looking forward to it
[08:31] <Bossmanbeta> ah ok localgod12
[08:31] <Bossmanbeta> it's very easy to use
[08:31] <localgod12> i got some ntfs partition adn vista on the same drive
[08:31] <Bossmanbeta> you get a boot menu -- usually hte first choice is qhat you want (gparted)
[08:31] <localgod12> that would be the probelm
[08:32] <Bossmanbeta> it handles ntfs just fine
[08:32] <Bossmanbeta> I've used it for dual boots dozens of times
[08:32] <localgod12> its vista freakin im worried about
[08:32] <Bossmanbeta> nah
[08:32] <Bossmanbeta> you plan on resizing vista? or leaving it alone
[08:32] <localgod12> well i would rather be luck than good
[08:32] <bullgard4> tritium: Yes. I wanted a specific user answer.
[08:32] <bbardlbradd> localgod12 that's what she said
[08:32] <localgod12> lol
[08:33] <xjkx> bbardlbradd, isnt fink something up to mac/
[08:33] <tritium> bullgard4: that wouldn't tell you anything about your situation
[08:33] <localgod12> my motto if i dont break something really really bad ill never learn how to fix it
[08:33] <bbardlbradd> xjkx, maybe... where would I find someone who knows mac things?
[08:33] <bbardlbradd> freenode #mac?
[08:33] <xjkx> bbardlbradd, #mac
[08:33] <ferronica> how to replace file from .iso image in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME
[08:33] <bbardlbradd> are there people actually in there.... :/
[08:33] <bullgard4> tritium: Your answer is not helpful. I know what I want.
[08:33] <localgod12> ferronica?
[08:33] <bbardlbradd> This is more about X11 than mac alone...
[08:33] <bbardlbradd> owell...
[08:33] <ferronica> in windows we use ultra iso to do all these stuff what here ?
[08:34] <localgod12> o got it i IDK
[08:34] <Ashfire908> is the package talk the standard and most commonly used?
[08:34] <Bossmanbeta> ferret, you can mouint an iso into an empty directory
[08:34] <ferronica> localgod12: yes
[08:34] <xjkx> bbardlbradd, more than you need
[08:34] <tritium> bullgard4: relax, we're just here to help
[08:34] <localgod12> thanks for your help i got about 10 min till i am done backing up
[08:34] <ferronica> localgod12: do you know how to do it
[08:34] <xjkx> bbardlbradd, you could try #apple too
[08:34] <Bossmanbeta> ferronica, just create an empty directory and mount the .iso file with this command 'mount NameOfTheISO.iso /home/username/iso -o loop'
[08:35] <Cyber_Stalker> !ntfs
[08:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:35] <bullgard4> tritium: What about helping others and not splashing common-places?
[08:35] <Cyber_Stalker> !ntfs-3g
[08:35] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:35] <Bossmanbeta> assuming you made a dir called "iso"
[08:35] <tritium> bullgard4: please, stay on topic
[08:36] <cduby1> I'm confused......QT codecs are listed in /usr/lib/codecs....I installed the w32codecs as suggested.....and I still get nothing in Firefox when I try to view trailers.......
[08:36] <Hilikus_> guys, give me reasons why it would be worth reformating my drive with a native linux partition instead of using ntfs
[08:36] <bruno> hey can i get some help?
[08:36] <Y3k> is sound card's group = sound ?
[08:36] <bruno> i reaaaally noob on this
[08:36] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, you planning on using ubuntu under wubi ?
[08:36] <bbardlbradd> no one is in there...
[08:36] <bruno> i just installed ubuntu
[08:36] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta wubi?
[08:36] <localgod12> i dont think linux will run on a ntfs partition
[08:37] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, nevermind then on wubi .... but ubuntu on ntfs is a bad idea imho
[08:37] <Hilikus_> localgod12 its not to run, its my music hdd
[08:37] <cdm10> I don't think ubuntu on ntfs is possible.
[08:37] <bruno> hey
[08:37] <Bossmanbeta> I wonder if that would even work, actually..........
[08:37] <Hilikus_> no, its not to run it
[08:37] <localgod12> cdm10 yes it is
[08:37] <cdm10> It can read and write ntfs partitions, but it can't be installed on it.
[08:37] <Bossmanbeta> cdm10, it is under Wubi...
[08:37] <cdm10> Hilikus_: oh, ok.
[08:37] <astro76> Hilikus_, for one it will maintain file ownership/permission info when you copy files back and forth to it
[08:37] <localgod12> CDM10 nevermind
[08:37] <Bossmanbeta> But wubi is not officially supported
[08:37] <cdm10> Bossmanbeta: Wubi != running Ubuntu on NTFS.
[08:38] <Hilikus_> astro76 good point
[08:38] <cdm10> Bossmanbeta: you're running Ubuntu on an Ext3 image on NTFS.
[08:38] <localgod12> Hilikus: i use a ntfs partition for the same thing
[08:38] <cdm10> Bossmanbeta: so Ubuntu just sees an Ext3 drive.
[08:38] <astro76> Hilikus_, I'd imagine it would be more reliable/robust
[08:38] <Bossmanbeta> cdm10, well ultimately, it's on ntfs...
[08:38] <Hilikus_> localgod12 you probably dual boot?
[08:38] <localgod12> yes
[08:38] <bruno> well, im using ubuntu feisty
[08:38] <localgod12> but my windows is seperate from my data
[08:38] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, I dont think ubuntu would work on ntfs natively
[08:38] <cdm10> Bossmanbeta: but Ubuntu doesn't really see that... it's not actually booting from ntfs, it's got a preloader that mounts the ext3 image on the ntfs drive and ubuntu uses that.
[08:39] <cdm10> Hilikus_: ubuntu's support for ntfs is quite good.
[08:39] <Hilikus_> i dont, thats my server, i run windows in this computer
[08:39] <bruno> and from nowhere the windows of the aplications disapear
[08:39] <localgod12> Hilikus: your not?
[08:39] <cdm10> Hilikus_: and in the next version, read/write access will be automatic.
[08:39] <bruno> i check on the system and they are running, but i cant open the window
[08:39] <Bossmanbeta> cdm10, I'm familiar with what wubi is... despite the virtualization, ntfs is involved, even if the kernel isn't aware of it.
[08:39] <bruno> its like the window is hidden
[08:39] <cdm10> Bossmanbeta: it's not virtualization, by the way.
[08:40] <ferronica> localgod12: to mount i have to change directory first ?
[08:40] <Bossmanbeta> cdm10, I think it is... <shrug>
[08:40] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta again, i dont plan to run ubuntu on ntfs, its just that i have 11gb of music in an ntfs hdd that i moved to my server (physically) and i want to access them
[08:40] <bbardlbradd> People in Mac Channels are friggin retarded
[08:40] <bruno> hey ... do i have to wait on queue for some help?
[08:40] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, ubuntu reads ntfs just fine natively.... so you should not have a problem...
[08:40] <cdm10> Bossmanbeta: If it were being run off of ntfs for real, you'd see an /etc and stuff right on the ntfs drive... with wubi, you just see a big file that comprises all that stuff in ext3 form. However, it's really just a difference in our definitions of "running on"
[08:40] <L0GAN> hello, I ran live cd with persistent
[08:40] <cdm10> Bossmanbeta: so I'm going to stop arguing :)
[08:41] <L0GAN> is there a way to check if it works?
[08:41] <localgod12> ferronica your lookin for Bossmanbeta
[08:41] <Bossmanbeta> cdm10, that's a good idea, becuase I haven't started..
[08:41] <cdm10> bruno: no, you just need to ask your question.
[08:41] <cdm10> I should get some sleep, I have an installfest to go to tomorrow :)
[08:41] <bruno> im doing this some time for now
[08:41] <bruno> well
[08:41] <bruno> the window of the applications disapear
[08:41] <Bossmanbeta> enjoy that cdm10
[08:41] <bruno> i cant open
[08:41] <ferronica> localgod12: what ?
[08:41] <tritium> !enter | bruno
[08:41] <ubotu> bruno: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:41] <bruno> ok
[08:42] <ChaosParser> Has anyone ever used a Sony Walkman Video MP3 Player with ubuntu?
[08:42] <localgod12> ferronica i am not sure how to do it bossman gave yo the answer last ime
[08:42] <Hilikus_> would it be transparent to programs if i have my mp3s in a ntfs partition, im going to be using ampache, so i dont know if something wont work because it is in a ntfs partition
[08:42] <ferronica> localgod12: i am unable to do ---> cd data file
[08:42] <L0GAN> i dont have audio on live
[08:42] <Bossmanbeta> ferronica, what's your question?
[08:42] <L0GAN> I have Soundblaster Audigy sz2
[08:42] <Ashfire908> what talk program should i use? talk or ytalk
[08:42] <Y3k> woho fixed my sound issues
[08:42] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, if the ntfs drive/partition is on the same system you're running ubuntu on, it will see it and mount it read-only so you can play your mp3's no prob
[08:42] <bruno> the window of the applications just disappear. when i check the system, the softwares is still there and working, but i cant get the window
[08:42] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: how to replace file from .iso image in ubuntu 7.04 GNOME
[08:43] <Bossmanbeta> ferronica, you need to first mount the iso
[08:43] <mmschnei> hello, I am new to ubuntu and I have a few questions. First of all I just got a shiny new quad core CPU, what do I need to do to have ubuntu utilize this properly? I have read about SMP kernels but I don't see them in synaptic anymore (posts were dated about 6 months that mentioned SMP kernels)
[08:43] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta but im wondering about permissions and that crap
[08:43] <Bossmanbeta> make a directory in your home, like "iso" then type mount NameOfTheISO.iso /home/username/iso -o loop
[08:43] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: i have downloded one iso from demonoid
[08:43] <Bossmanbeta> then you can access the iso contents by looking at home/username/iso
[08:43] <astro76> mmschnei, the generic kernel now handles SMP
[08:43] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, you'll default to read-only permissions
[08:44] <bruno> cdm10: i dont know what to do ...
[08:44] <Bossmanbeta> ubuntu does not mount ntfs partitions with any write-permissions by default..read0-only
[08:44] <mmschnei> astro76, ok, thats what I was thinking, so its already ready to go? (just want to clarify) no furhter action is required?
[08:44] <astro76> mmschnei, yes it's automatic
[08:44] <mmschnei> The other major issue I am having at the moment is I am having trouble with video drivers...
[08:44] <Hilikus_> ah crap, i guess ill do the migration to ext3 then. im assuming its more robust anyway, and its not MS
[08:45] <Bossmanbeta> i'd recommend resierFS over ext3
[08:45] <Bossmanbeta> (speed)
[08:45] <mmschnei> I have an Nvidia 8600GT card, ubuntu does not appear to be detecting the card properly and if I try an use the restricted drivers application it tells me I don't need any. However right now I am stuck with VESA @ 1024x768 =(
[08:45] <Ashfire908> what signal tells the process to stop at it's conveince?
[08:45] <bruno> well i gi ve up
[08:45] <Hilikus_> im going to read about the other fs's i use xtfs i think, for mythtv
[08:45] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: BLACKXP_4_DVD_FINAL.iso: No such file or directory
[08:46] <ferronica> tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ sudo mount BLACKXP_4_DVD_FINAL /home/tushar/iso -o loop
[08:46] <astro76> Ashfire908, SIGTERM ? as opposed to SIGKILL
[08:46] <bbardlbradd> Ok, I have looked all over the place (via searchirc) and no one in a mac channel can help me...
[08:46] <Bossmanbeta> u dont need to sudo it, I dont think.... and you need to specify the whole filename -- adding the .iso
[08:46] <bbardlbradd> X11 is nothing like Linux?
[08:46] <bbardlbradd> I have ubuntu... :/
[08:46] <dropety> mmschnei: how about installing the nVidia drivers?
[08:46] <Ashfire908> bbardlbradd, X11 is the windowing system used in Linux
[08:46] <mmschnei> Fellas, any help with nividia drivers? (sorry, ubuntu n00b here)
[08:47] <astro76> !x | bbardlbradd
[08:47] <ubotu> bbardlbradd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:47] <Hilikus_> "I'd go for ext3 myself due to the file system journaling and lack of needing to defragment."
[08:47] <bbardlbradd> Well, Xfree86?
[08:47] <Hilikus_> you dont need to defragment ext3??
[08:47] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, you dont need to defrag ext3 or reiserfs
[08:48] <Hilikus_> wooow
[08:48] <mmschnei> Hilikus_, nope
[08:48] <Hilikus_> i didnt know that!
[08:48] <bruno> i already posted the problem ... i installed ubuntu and ive always heard about the community ... but i cant really get anny help around here
[08:48] <dropety> mmschnei: goto thenvidia site and DL the drivers
[08:48] <Hilikus_> they never told us that in school
[08:48] <mmschnei> dropety, ok, so just ignore the package management system on this one?
[08:48] <Bossmanbeta> bruno, the available help varies becuase it's voluntary ... the forums are more reliable (via googling)
[08:48] <ferronica> Bossmanbeta: tushar@tushar-desktop:~$ mount BLACKXP_4_DVD_FINAL.iso/home/tushar/iso -o loopmount: only root can do that
[08:48] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, there's a lot school never told anyone...
[08:49] <bruno> yeah ... no cookies for me on google either
[08:49] <Bossmanbeta> ferronica, ok so sudo it then....
[08:49] <astro76> bruno, what is the problem exactly?
[08:49] <dropety> yes, just ignore it. In fact, remove the restricted package alltogether
[08:49] <Bossmanbeta> ferronica, but you need a space after the filename n between the directory path and the .iso filename
[08:49] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta of course, but when you discuss so much about disk fragmentation, you wont totally mention something like, but some FS avoid it like this:
[08:49] <Hilikus_> would*
[08:49] <bruno> astro76: the windows dont show up, i start the software, they appear on the running programs, but the window dont show up
[08:50] <L0GAN> well I made save for gaim, and restarted with added persistent and it didnt work
[08:50] <astro76> bruno, what windows? what software?
[08:50] <L0GAN> how can I save settings on USB with 7.0.4?
[08:50] <astro76> bruno, the more detail you provide the more answers you'll get ;)
[08:50] <bruno> astro76: ktorrent, and the icons that were on the system tray disappeared also
[08:50] <localgod12> why is ther 4.9 gb os stuff in my trash folder?
[08:50] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, ext3 is a good filesystem, but resierfs is a lot newer and faster... ext3 these days is used for those who want cross-compatability with other linux distros that may not yet support resier (few) and also since ext3 has a much longer track record by virtue of it being in existence much longer, it's inherently more reliable.. though I have useed reiser for years without issue
[08:51] <astro76> bruno, are you using gnome or kde?
[08:51] <bruno> astro76: gnome
[08:51] <L0GAN> I did follow the tutorials but I cant seem to get it working correct
[08:51] <L0GAN> (using live CD
[08:51] <localgod12> is the trash folder = recycle bin?
[08:51] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta im going to read about it right now
[08:52] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReiserFS
[08:52] <bruno> astro76: this happened with azureus also, the same problem. the software window disappear but the software window keep unreachable
[08:52] <astro76> bruno, can you alt+tab to it?
[08:52] <bruno> astro76: nope
[08:52] <bruno> they arent in either desktops
[08:52] <Bossmanbeta> Hilikus_, you'll notice there's a paragraph on performance.... resier is 10-15x faster than ext3
[08:52] <L0GAN> i just have to add persistent after the parameters, right?
[08:53] <bruno> astro76: and the thing is ... the ktorrent keeps downloading stuff ... but the window is gone
[08:54] <L0GAN> hmm
[08:54] <L0GAN> is there a channel for new users?
[08:54] <bruno> astro76: the gaim icon that were in the system as the fusion-icon icon were gone also
[08:54] <FunnyLookinHat> L0GAN, this one sort of is   : )
[08:54] <astro76> bruno, you're using 3d effects?
[08:54] <bruno> astro76: yes
[08:54] <Colro> is anyone able to help guide me through an install? a bit paranoid that ill have to do it over ;|
[08:54] <FunnyLookinHat> L0GAN, Feel free to ask whatever questions you have
[08:54] <L0GAN> FunnyLookinHat:  its to busy
[08:54] <bruno> astro76: compiz fusion
[08:54] <astro76> bruno, in feisty?
[08:54] <IndyGunFreak> Colro: i will.
[08:54] <bruno> astro76: yeah
[08:54] <Hilikus_> oh its the default fs in slackware
[08:54] <FunnyLookinHat> L0GAN, sorry, it's a popular distro   : )
[08:55] <astro76> bruno, well no doubt it's due to compiz
[08:55] <IndyGunFreak> Colro: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[08:55] <Scunizi> LOGAN,  there's over a thousand people inhere.
[08:55] <L0GAN> all thigns I tried (boting from usb, trying to use persistent) dont seem to work
[08:55] <bruno> astro76: how do i solve this?
[08:55] <Hilikus_> Although it was rumored to be a result of principal author Hans Reiser being charged with the murder of his wife two days earlier, the timing of the announcement was coincidental and unrelated.
[08:55] <astro76> bruno, dunno, that's not supported in feisty, it will be included with gutsy in 5 days
[08:55] <Hilikus_> i dont wanna use a killer's file system
[08:55] <Scunizi> Colro: are you going to use the entire HDD or dual boot.
[08:55] <bruno> astro76: compiz isnt supported on feisty?
[08:56] <FunnyLookinHat> L0GAN, what do you mean "tried" ?   you can't boot the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[08:56] <CH1P> Ethernet Card is not getting identified and i am new to ubuntu please help
[08:56] <bruno> astro76: can i disable the compiz?
[08:56] <astro76> bruno, did you get it from the official repo? no... compiz comes with feisty but even it has a warning that it's a preview
[08:56] <bruno> astro76: i did not
[08:56] <L0GAN> FunnyLookinHat:  i can but cant use persistent to save settings to usb stick
[08:56] <astro76> bruno, sure, but I'm not sure how
[08:56] <FunnyLookinHat> CH1P, you should search for your card type/model on ubuntuforums.org and see if it shows any help results
[08:57] <L0GAN> yesterday I tried getting to boot from usb, also no luck
[08:57] <bruno> astro76: but all the other stuff works so fine, i thought that a problem with compiz would crap all the other applications
[08:57] <FunnyLookinHat> L0GAN, Yeah, booting from USB can be difficult.  And likely impossible unless you're an advanced user.
[08:57] <astro76> bruno, lots of people come in here with odd random windowing bugs, they all are running 3d effects ;)
[08:58] <FunnyLookinHat> L0GAN, You should either just install it if you can, or not bother trying to work off the live cd
[08:58] <bruno> astro76: must be
[08:58] <astro76> bruno, but I imagine it will be working smoothly with gutsy
[08:58] <L0GAN> FunnyLookinHat:  hmm I try restarting and entering usb instead of persistent
[08:58] <L0GAN> FunnyLookinHat:  thanks for the help
[08:58] <FunnyLookinHat> L0GAN, n/p   sorry I couldn't be of more help
[08:59] <L0GAN> FunnyLookinHat: maybe documentation is out of date or it just wont work for me lol
[08:59] <L0GAN> restarting
[08:59] <zeddicus> Ok I'm new to ubuntu and I am running 7.10 Tribes 3 what will I have to do when it is officially released?
[08:59] <localgod11> I figured it out i didnt need to resize the partition i just need to take out the trash
[08:59] <stiev3> how will the feisty > gutsy transition work?  Will it be handled by the update manager when it's released?
[09:00] <astro76> stiev3, yes the upgrade should work perfectly
[09:00] <localgod11> thats a good question
[09:00] <zeddicus> Also what is the command to put the trashcan on the desktop
[09:01] <localgod11> its in the bottom right handle corner if your using gnome
[09:01] <Hilikus_> theres ext4 too?
[09:01] <Hilikus_> wow
[09:02] <cduby1> are there any other means to play .mov files in Firefox?
[09:02] <zeddicus> I removed it from the pannel
[09:02] <localgod11> so but how will the conversion to compufision (supposedly included with gutsy work)
[09:02] <astro76> cduby1, have you installed w32codecs? you can get it from medibuntu
[09:02] <astro76> !medibuntu | cduby1
[09:02] <ubotu> cduby1: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:02] <vroomanj> Ok I have been trolling forums for about an hour now so I think it is time to ask you guys. Trying to install Ubuntu for the first time I get to "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control off (initramfs)" it appears this is a common error however I have been unable to find a working solution.
[09:02] <Bossmanbeta> zeddicus, click on a neutral spot on the taskbar and click ADD TO PANEL, from there u will see the trashcan
[09:03] <Bossmanbeta> (rt click)
[09:03] <cduby1> astro76, sorry, but I've done that whole deal
[09:03] <astro76> vroomanj, yes it is common, it can be all sorts of causes
[09:03] <cduby1> installed w32codecs, mplayer plugin......
[09:03] <vroomanj> Ahhh interesting :P thats what I like to hear.
[09:03] <localgod11> will the transition from fiesty (with beryl) to gutsy be smoth?
[09:03] <cduby1> ubuntu restricted extras
[09:04] <cduby1> astro76, still won't work......any ideas?
[09:04] <cylent77> hello.
[09:04] <vroomanj> astro76, can you deduce what might be the most likely cause based on the computer being a Dell Vostro 1400?
[09:04] <astro76> cduby1, tried vlc? ... if you don't want us to start with the basics, tell us what you've done in your question ;)
[09:05] <astro76> cduby1, is what you are trying to play online? link?
[09:05] <cduby1> trailers
[09:05] <astro76> vroomanj, is that a desktop?
[09:05] <cduby1> on apple.com
[09:05] <cduby1> I had it working before....reinstalled and no joy
[09:05] <vroomanj> astro76, no it is a notebook.
[09:05] <Bossmanbeta> joy is so elusive
[09:05] <cylent77> i am having trouble with ubuntu 7.10. when i boot up the live cd on my laptop which has a i945 graphics card i end up with a white screen. i can only see the cursor and thats it. I KNOW the problem is most likely compiz but how can i stop it from loading? i tried safe mode but safe mode fails to start the X server.
[09:05] <Bossmanbeta> apt-get install bliss
[09:06] <astro76> cduby1, do you have a link to a non-working one?
[09:06] <zeddicus> Another question that I really need help with, my wireless is showing as eth1 and everytime I reboot I have to go to a terminal and do a modprobe bcm43xx. What do I need to put in the etc/modprobe.conf to avoid this problem?
[09:07] <astro76> vroomanj, that could be tough, you can't really swap out hardware in a laptop
[09:07] <cduby1> astro76, link I tried played fine in vlc.....but I don't really want to have to open that app every time.....guess I can set it as the default helper in FF.
[09:07] <cylent77> anybody?
[09:08] <Bossmanbeta> zeddicus,  yes
[09:08] <astro76> cduby1, if you give a link I'll try and see if it plays in my browser with totem plug in
[09:08] <astro76> vroomanj, you could try the alternate cd, also maybe check bios settings
[09:08] <cduby1> astro76, http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/thekingdom/medium_3.html
[09:08] <astro76> cduby1, yeah it plays
[09:08] <astro76> cduby1, what does yours do?
[09:09] <astro76> cduby1, did you check about:plugins?
[09:09] <cduby1> astro76, I can try to force it to use vlc for qt files, but there's no option in the settings for .mov files......
[09:10] <Hilikus_> how can i see a list of my file systems?
[09:10] <astro76> cduby1, do you have totem-mozilla installed?
[09:11] <astro76> !info totem-mozilla
[09:11] <ubotu> totem-mozilla: Totem Mozilla plugin. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:11] <cduby1> astro76, don't think I installed that one.....
[09:11] <astro76> cduby1, with that, under about:plugins there should be a QuickTime Plug-in listed which includes .mov
[09:11] <cduby1> k
[09:12] <ompaul> Hilikus_, in a terminal  ls -al for the ones in your home directory - or cd / and then ls -al - perhaps you too can have fun with ls -al  or ls -alh | less or even du -h   -- to understand the options in a terminal type man ls or man du have a great day
[09:12] <cduby1> bah, it says it's installed
[09:12] <xsho> hi
[09:12] <astro76> cduby1, do you see that under about:plugins?
[09:12] <ompaul> Hilikus_, perhaps the simple df -h might help
[09:12] <cduby1> hold on
[09:13] <projecttt> can anyone suggest some ubuntu utilities that i can use to search for some deleted files on my ubuntu machine?
[09:14] <speedy_> how do i set my wireless on monitor mode?
[09:14] <alecwh> Is there a native P2P program for Gnome (like Limewire or Frostwire)?
[09:14] <cduby1> astro76, in that page I have a QuickTime plugin that says it's supposed to handle .mov files......
[09:15] <astro76> cduby1, how about if you go in Firefox to Edit > preferences > Content tab, and Manage... file types, what is listed as handling QT ?
[09:15] <g0dd3ss> hai i have feisty and I installed wifi-radar then I uninstalled both network-manager and wifi-radar to install wicd.  icd wors ok, but wehn i go to shutdown it says failed to shutdown wifi something-or-other and stopping wifi radar daemon, If i uninstalled wifi-radar why should I still have the daemon? anyone know how i can fix this? sorry i iz n00bish
[09:16] <astro76> cduby1, should be Open with Quicktime plug-in 7.1.3
[09:16] <cduby1> astro76, QuickTime plugin 6.0 /7
[09:17] <astro76> cduby1, I think that's the problem
[09:18] <astro76> cduby1, so what installed plugin 6.0 ?
[09:18] <cduby1> astro76, have no idea. I followed the wiki to install w32codecs, then installed mplayer and it's plugins, then installed ubuntu restricted extras
[09:19] <astro76> cduby1, do you see plugin 6.0 in about:plugins?
[09:20] <yasper> hi. anyone here?
[09:20] <cduby1> astro76, yep
[09:20] <astro76> cduby1, what is the File name: ?
[09:21] <cduby1> mplayerplug-in-qt.so
[09:21] <astro76> cduby1, in a terminal: dpkg -S $(locate mplayerplug-in-qt.so)
[09:21] <astro76> cduby1, then uninstall that
[09:21] <astro76> package
[09:21] <yasper> i have feisty fawn with gnome. I want to try out KDE - do have to do a fresh install?
[09:22] <IndyGunFreak> yasper: not really.
[09:22] <cylent77> well this really really sucks. i very much wanted to install ubuntu on my bro's laptop but with this white screen problem i cant seem to find a way around i may have to opt for Opensuse now.
[09:22] <cylent77> good job ubuntu developers!
[09:22] <IndyGunFreak> yasper: but its gonna put a ton of KDE apps in your menu
[09:22] <yasper> how then please, Indygun?
[09:22] <IndyGunFreak> cylent77: well the way around it is to not use compiz/beryl
[09:22] <yasper> indygun - does that mean it will run slower?
[09:23] <cylent77> IndyGunFreak: i cant disable it. i cant even see my damn desktop.
[09:23] <cylent77> i only see a mouse cursor
[09:23] <IndyGunFreak> yasper: no, it means you'll have about 200 apps spread throughout your menus
[09:23] <cylent77> and why is compiz a problem? it works fine with Opensuse livecd
[09:23] <cduby1> astro76, I show the right plugin now in the FF prefs, but still no joy.....
[09:24] <boselecta> does Pidgin store passwords in cleartext? gaim used to.
[09:24] <astro76> cduby1, hmm restarted firefox?
[09:24] <mattg> yasper: easy way is to download and install kubuntu
[09:24] <cduby1> yep
[09:24] <astro76> cduby1, darn
[09:24] <yasper> indygunfreak - so you don;t think there is much advantage? I am new to ubuntu/ linux so just trying stuff out
[09:24] <don-o> what kernel ver is shipping with Gutsy?
[09:24] <cduby1> astro76, I don't understand, I had the mplayer working before without a hitch.....and I'd had it installed so long I forgot what I did....:P
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> yasper: unless for some reason you really want to try it.
[09:25] <mattg> yasper: stick with what ya got.  i used to like kde, now i love gnome
[09:25] <boselecta> i have mplayer working in firefox
[09:25] <IndyGunFreak> i personally consdier KDE an eyesore, but thats just me
[09:25] <yasper> got fristy and compiz fusion working nicely and getting a feel of the apz and my way around :-)
[09:25] <cduby1> boselecta, what did you do to get it working
[09:25] <caioborg> Hi, I use Windows for 15 years and now I want to change to Linux, or at least learn a little bit more. I have Ubuntu installed in a dual-boot configuration so I can test everything before migration. But I have some problems with my connection configuration. Anyone would like to help?
[09:25] <yasper> got feisty
[09:26] <alecwh> how do I install java on my ubuntu laptop? I just installed frostwire, and it won't run.
[09:26] <IndyGunFreak> yasper: have you considered just downloading a Kubuntu Live CD, and trying it from there?
[09:26] <Enselic> caioborg: you mean internet/network connection? sure, what is not working
[09:26] <Colro> I'm back!
[09:26] <IndyGunFreak> hallelujah!.. :)
[09:26] <boselecta> i had to remove 3 totem packages (everything except the libtotem one), and install mplayer and mplayer-mozilla pkgs.
[09:26] <alecwh> !java > alecwh
[09:26] <yasper> indygunfreak - ok - thats a good idea
[09:26] <boselecta> i'm doing that on gutsy
[09:27] <caioborg> Enselic: everytime I reboot I need to turn off the modem and start the pppoeconf procedure to have the connection working
[09:27] <cduby1> boselecta, any tips on which totem ones?
[09:27] <IndyGunFreak> yasper: ya, and if you like it, which i don't know why anyone does, install it over  your current ve4rsion
[09:27] <Enselic> caioborg: oh modem, I don't have any modem experience on Ubuntu sadly
[09:27] <IndyGunFreak> yasper: only reason i say that, is when you install Kubuntu, it will installl around 100 apps, and if you want to remove it, you'll spend a while getting them out of your menus
[09:27] <caioborg> Enselic, I mean DSL
[09:28] <caioborg> not dial-up
[09:28] <Enselic> caioborg: ah ok, so you have a normal network cable into your computer from your modem?
[09:28] <boselecta> in gutsy there are 4 totem packages that were installed on my box (not sure whether that's the same as out-of-the-box). I had something like...
[09:28] <boselecta> just a sec
[09:28] <caioborg> Enselic: yep, through my network cable...
[09:29] <caioborg> Enselic: I'm using it right now, the problem is only when I restart
[09:29] <yasper> ok guys thanks - c u l8trs
[09:29] <Enselic> caioborg: then its weird that you need any ppp stuff
[09:29] <speedy__> how do i set my wireless card on monitor mode?
[09:29] <IndyGunFreak> yasper: good luck
[09:29] <Enselic> caioborg: when you reboot your computer, do you get an IP adress?
[09:29] <yasper> back for more help later.
[09:29] <boselecta> sorry updates are running. but it was totem (itself), the totem mozilla plugin, and something else. the only thing i left started with libtotem which i couldn't remove due to dependencies.
[09:29] <caioborg> Enselic: I think is my dsl provider that need that stuff
[09:29] <cjae_> http://pastebin.ca/735016
[09:29] <boselecta> anyway get rid of as much totem as you can and install mplayer and mplayer-mozilla
[09:30] <caioborg> Enselic: I have a home network connected to the modem but need to dial to autheticate
[09:30] <boselecta> you can search for "totem" in synaptic and that'll show what you've got.
[09:30] <Enselic> caioborg: I see. what you want to do here is make sure pppoeconf is run whenever your network interface goes up
[09:31] <caioborg> Enseli: Yepn
[09:31] <boselecta> don-o not sure about kernel, but right now gutsy is at 2.6.22-14
[09:31] <Enselic> caioborg:  btw, your IRC client probably has Tab completion. Try Ens<Tab>.
[09:32] <boselecta> i read somewhere that it might go up to 2.6.23 within the week
[09:32] <Enselic> caioborg: have you looked at   man pppoeconf   ?
[09:32] <Enselic> caioborg: there are some configuration files there that looks promosing
[09:32] <caioborg> Enselic: usually I just run the sudo pon dsl-provider command, but I can't connect after reboot, so I have to configure the pppoe again
[09:32] <Enselic> caioborg: I suspect what you need to do is to fill in those configuration files
[09:33] <caioborg> Enselic: where do I find them?
[09:33] <Enselic> caioborg: if you run   man pppoeconf   you will find references to configuration files
[09:34] <caioborg> man pppoeconf is the command?
[09:34] <Scunizi> anyone know what I need to get kaffeine or Konquer to play mpg video files from the browser?
[09:34] <Enselic> caioborg: man pppoeconf   is a command to show the manual page for pppoeconf
[09:34] <boselecta> does Pidgin store passwords in cleartext?
[09:34] <Enselic> caioborg: in UNIX-like systems (like Linux), all programs have a manual page
[09:34] <caioborg> Ok, thanks I will try that.
[09:34] <Enselic> caioborg: you typically use the man program to show those files
[09:34] <boselecta> Enselic: /all/ programs?
[09:35] <zeddicus> Not that I would ever do it but how much diskspace would be used if all 26000+ packages were installed?
[09:35] <caioborg> Enselic: is like a ini file in Windows environment?
[09:35] <Enselic> boselecta: as good as
[09:35] <cduby1> YES....success
[09:35] <cduby1> thanks, boselecta
[09:35] <Enselic> caioborg: yes that's a perfectly fine comparision
[09:35] <boselecta> np
[09:35] <boselecta> glad i could help
[09:35] <cduby1> that was driving me nuts
[09:35] <cduby1> heh
[09:35] <Enselic> caioborg: "ini-files" in Linux systems are in /etc
[09:36] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta do you use raiserfs v3 or 4?
[09:36] <Bossmanbeta> 3
[09:36] <caioborg> Enselic: Thank you very much, I will try now and will be back soon.
[09:36] <boselecta> the only reason i remembered is that i was being driven nuts three hours ago and had to get it sorted myself
[09:36] <cduby1> sweet.
[09:36] <Enselic> caioborg: note that man has Tab completion, to get to the pppoeconf manual page, you can type   man pppoe<Tab>
[09:36] <HarryR> why scrap Ubuntu/PPC!
[09:37] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta the benchmarks dont look too god
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> HarryR: cuz Mac did?
[09:37] <Ashfire908> what do i set my mysql root pass to
[09:37] <MasterAslan> good morning
[09:37] <Enselic> caioborg:   man pppoec<Tab>   I mean
[09:37] <speedy__> wich wireless driver does ubuntu use?
[09:37] <Hilikus_> Bossmanbeta im reading it takes for ever to mount
[09:37] <Enselic> speedy__: depends on your card
[09:37] <IndyGunFreak> HarryR: but there is a comunity project for PPC ubuntu..