[13:50] <funtable> g105b, "rsync" is an application who do this.... read about it.  sync / concatenate file betwen directories, and servers.
[13:50] <dextronic> solution on my proplem " no icons on panel ubuntu " comes here
[13:50] <dextronic> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jconti/gnome3
[13:50] <dextronic> sudo apt-get update
[13:50] <dextronic> sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-complete
[13:50] <dextronic> sudo reboot
[13:50] <dextronic> im gonna check if it works
[13:50] <dextronic> brb
[13:51] <Amnesia> question, in what file are gcc's default flags defined in ubuntu?
[13:53] <Czechton> can anyone help with the error "grub-install /dev/sda failed"?
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !paste | Czechton paste your commands and feedback
[13:53] <g105b> funtable: I know about rsync. I'm asking how to run a sync -- possibly rsync -- when a directory changes.
[13:54] <g105b> *script, not sync
[13:54] <leni1> hello all. I'd like some help editing the GRUB boot menu entries. Anyone who can assist??
[13:54] <tmmunq> if the HWEs arent supported until the end of precise's support, which HWE should i be using? update to the saucy one or downgrade to the precise one?
[13:55] <RAM399> The live DVD should have a built-in grub recovery tool, but the website says i have to download Boot-Repair which isn't much good with no internet connection
[13:56] <varunendra> RAM399, boot-repair is an easy-to-use way, but not the only way. :)
[13:56] <varunendra> RAM399, you can always use "grub-install" command with suitable options
[13:56] <RAM399> grub-install doesn't work so easily, it requires the user to mount --bind varous diretories and chroot into /mnt
[13:57] <renx> pls help
[13:57] <varunendra> RAM399, I never needed the --bind or chroot things. Unless my knowledge is too outdated, they are not necessary either
[13:58] <varunendra> RAM399, check "grub-install --help", is there a "boot-directory" option available?
[13:58] <Chaos_Zero> where can I place a script so it is in the path of all users?
[13:59] <varunendra> Chaos_Zero, /usr/sbin or /usr/bin
[13:59] <tmmunq> i usually put that in /usr/local/bin
[13:59] <mustmodify> I'm using virtualbox to set up an ubuntu server. I'm installing ubuntu now. It says, "Failed to partition the selected disk... this probably happened because the selected disk is too small to be automatically partitioned." How small is too small?
[13:59] <Chaos_Zero> thanks, may I ask what the difference is?
[13:59] <hunzikes> Hi all. I have lost my evolution contacts when upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 - does anyone know why and can help recover?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> hunzikes don't know why, but you can restore from your backup.
[14:00] <hunzikes> cfhowlett, can you elaborate?
[14:00] <ms7> Hi, I'm trying to install 14.04 from USB on my mid 2010 macbook pro. I have followed this guide (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx) but when booting from the USB, I get a black screen with "no bootable device found" in text. Is this a mac hardware issue?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> hunzikes you DID back up your evolution data, did you not?  there is a restore option in Evolution
[14:01] <varunendra> Chaos_Zero, just Linux hierarchy, makes no difference on operation of the script
[14:01] <hunzikes> cfhowlett, no I don't have a separate evolution backup
[14:01] <Czechton> cfhowlett: here is the relevent bit of the syslog
[14:01] <Czechton> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7830399/
[14:01] <ioudas> does anyone know how to enable vcstime on ubuntu 14.04 desktop edition? I have it set to console mode /etc/kbd/config lists do_vcstime=yes yet it doesnt show at boot... also I the power saving modes in the console tools conf are not being applied?
[14:02]  * cfhowlett shakes his head and backs away muttering Backup ... always Backup ... ALWAYS
[14:02] <mauro_> ciao
[14:03] <Czechton> cfhowlett: dw i have a backup
[14:03] <Czechton> but crucially i want to install something that isnt chromeOS on this thing
[14:06] <trondoiyeuem> co ai khong
[14:10] <dextronic> didnt work
[14:10] <theperfectpunk> cfhowlett: anyway to set up grub in another disk from windows?
[14:12] <nearst> howdy ppl
[14:14] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk from windows?  why not from Ubuntu live CD as is recommended?
[14:16] <theperfectpunk> grub is installed on my disk
[14:16] <theperfectpunk> but there is no boot record
[14:17] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk do you have an ubuntu CD/USB?
[14:18] <theperfectpunk> cfhowlett
[14:18] <theperfectpunk> cfhowlett: yes, but boot-repair doesn't work
[14:18] <theperfectpunk> even in UEFI
[14:18] <nearst> theperfectpunk, how u know grub install on ur disk ?
[14:18] <theperfectpunk> says the disk is GPT
[14:18] <theperfectpunk> nearst: yea it is installed
[14:18] <theperfectpunk> nearst: i can see all the folder and files of grub
[14:19] <theperfectpunk> from windows
[14:19] <theperfectpunk> nearst: mounted using Ext2 software
[14:19] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk THAT is not normal.  your ubuntu should not be visible from windows
[14:19] <theperfectpunk> cfhowlett: mounted using Ext2
[14:20] <funtable> g105b, you cant monitor on-line changes on filesystem.  just scheduled routines in crontab.
[14:20] <mustmodify> I'm using virtualbox to set up an ubuntu server. I'm installing ubuntu now. It says, "Failed to partition the selected disk... this probably happened because the selected disk is too small to be automatically partitioned." How small is too small?
[14:20] <nearst> theperfectpunk, check by bcdedit /enum
[14:20] <theperfectpunk> cfhowlett: it is a seperate disk
[14:20] <Guest19074> hello i need help i have 2 hard drives one is almost full is there a way to merge drive to with 1 while keeping all the data on 1 intact
[14:20] <blip-> hi all, I run ubuntu 12.04.4.  I couldn't get official nvidia drive (& nvidia-prime) running on my Optimus laptop.   Anyway I updated to raring 3.8 kernel and now I want to update to xserver-xorg-lts-raring for the full Hardware_Enablement_Stack
[14:20] <funtable> g105b, sorry i didn't understand at first question .
[14:20] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk doesn't matter - you did something strange to enable windows to see your ubuntu.
[14:21] <blip-> however that last package wants to remove ia32-libs from my system.  Which I need for a certain program.  Any idea why it wants to remove it ?
[14:21] <theperfectpunk> nearst: currently m on windows
[14:21] <g105b> funtable: ah, I wonder how sass --watch does it... I'm trying to do something similar with my own tool, you see.
[14:21] <cfhowlett> mustmodify server should fit on 6 gigs IIRC
[14:21] <hebz0rl> hi is there a color picker that supports cmyk under ubuntu?
[14:21] <theperfectpunk> cfhowlett: it's a software to mount an Ext3 partition
[14:21] <theperfectpunk> Ext2 is the name
[14:21] <theperfectpunk> of the software
[14:21] <g105b> hebz0rl: the native colour picker supports that
[14:21] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk default for ubuntu is ext4 ...
[14:21] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, if it is a GPT partition scheme, grub should be on Ubuntu's partition, not on MBR, since there is no MBR in GPT scheme. And not necessary, but if you are dual-booting with Windows, the booting should be EFI based - means there should be a separate partition (EFI or boot/EFI) which should be doing the job of booting the installed OSes
[14:21] <nearst> theperfectpunk, http://superuser.com/questions/696838/installed-updated-windows-8-uefi-after-ubuntu-restore-grub
[14:21] <theperfectpunk> cfhowlett: it's mounted in read only mode for now
[14:22] <g105b> hebz0rl: or if you're looking for a user tool (not developer tool) gpick should sort you out
[14:23] <hebz0rl> g105b, uh what command is the native color picker?
[14:23] <varunendra> cfhowlett, theperfectpunk the "ext2fsd" driver is able to mount ext4 partitions in read/write mode, but that is unrelated to the problem here.
[14:23] <Guest19074> hello i need help i have 2 hard drives one is almost full is there a way to merge drive to with 1 while keeping all the data on 1 intact
[14:24] <hebz0rl> g105b, uh nevermind gpick looks perfect thx!
[14:24] <Guest19074> can people see me :(
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !patience|Guest19074
[14:24] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: my ubuntu is installed on a seperate disk not partition
[14:25] <g105b> Guest19074: nope
[14:25] <Guest19074> :(
[14:25] <varunendra> Guest19074, yes we can see you. The question should be - whether we can understand you as well :)
[14:25] <theperfectpunk> so every disk has it's own bootrecord
[14:25] <theperfectpunk> cfhowlett: nearst: any more ideas guys?
[14:26] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, even if there is just a single partition on a drive, it is installed on the partition (PBR) in GPT scheme, not MBR
[14:26] <theperfectpunk> thanx nearst
[14:26] <theperfectpunk> :-)
[14:26] <theperfectpunk> nearst: checking out bcedit :-()
[14:26] <theperfectpunk> :-)
[14:26] <cfhowlett> theperfectpunk too much I don't know about to provide anything meaningful - sorry.  Your setup sounds quite ... exotic.
[14:27] <nearst> theperfectpunk, gudluck.
[14:27] <Guest19074> can you merge / onto another hard drive
[14:27] <Guest19074> i have the hard drive mounts /home/drive2
[14:30] <funtable> g105b, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-inotify-examples-to-replicate-directories/  , "inotify" a linux service who watch a directory and take actions when something changes. very good article in this site.
[14:31] <g105b> ah nice one, thanks
[14:32] <varunendra> Guest19074, you can merge (mount) the other hard drive partition(s) into your root (or some directory within the tree), but as soon as you do that, the contents of the mount-point will disappear (they will remain there, just not visible anymore) and the mount-point will start showing the contents of the mounted partition (or directory, with 'bind' option)
[14:34] <Guest19074> http://i.imgur.com/Trvybf7.png i want to merge /dev/sda3 with /dev/sdb1 with out erasing data from dev/sda3
[14:34] <BlackBeaver> Hi
[14:34] <cfhowlett> Guest19074 might also ask ##linux
[14:35] <cfhowlett> BlackBeaver ask your ubuntu questions
[14:35] <Guest19074> ##linux :Cannot send to channel :(
[14:35] <Guest19074> everytime i type in there
[14:36] <Beldar> !register | Guest19074 you have to be registered
[14:36] <usuario_> usuario
[14:36] <usuario_> usuario
[14:37] <cfhowlett> usuario_ ask your #ubuntu questions
[14:38] <Allons-y> Hi
[14:39] <Drea> Ayudaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:39] <Allons-y> What can you do when you get the error "out of partition" in grub?
[14:40] <Beldar> Allons-y, when do you see this and can you boot to the OS?
[14:40] <Allons-y> Nop
[14:41] <anonymous__> hello
[14:42] <cfhowlett> anonymous__ ask your ubuntu question
[14:43] <Saurav> this room looks good
[14:45] <lucas_> hi, why do some configuration files have numbers like 10, 20, 50, etc. in front of their names? Example: 10-ubuntu-settings, 50-gtk-whatever, 60-config-stuff. Do they have a meaning?
[14:46] <varunendra> lucas_, the numbers decide the order they will be executed in, when reading that directory.
[14:46] <k1l> lucas_: it depends on the process that is using the config. when they have the numbers it means the priority the get  acitvated.
[14:47] <varunendra> lucas_, in such directories, the files without a number are executed last
[14:47] <lucas_> thanks varunendra, k1l
[14:47] <varunendra> executed or read *
[14:49] <anonymous__> I am from germany. Do anywhere knew how i can use vidalia
[14:49] <cfhowlett> !tor | anonymous__
[14:49] <Symphonym> Is it worth doing a clean install when 14.04.1 releases?
[14:49] <eduardojunio> hi guys! :D
[14:49] <ikonia> Symphonym: only you can really answer that
[14:49] <Symphonym> ikonia: Fair enough
[14:50] <cfhowlett> Symphonym ^^^ this.  if you've got 14.04 installed, just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:50] <cfhowlett> IMHO
[14:52] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me how i can find my internal bluetooth adapter using terminal
[14:52] <ikonia> ghostnik11: what do you mean "find it" ?
[14:52] <ikonia> ghostnik11: what are you expecting ?
[14:53] <ghostnik11> ikonia, i want to know what the inernal bluetooth adapter is, like is it broadcam or altec or intel because my bluetooth doesn't work
[14:54] <Symphonym> Recently installed the fcitx input system, which makes the Text Entry settings pretty much irrelevant. Is it possible to integrate fcitx with the Text Entry settings or should I completely replace iBus with fcitx?
[14:54] <ikonia> ghostnik11 lspci or hwinfo lists your hardware devices
[14:54] <ikonia> ghostnik11: you should see your bluetooth adaptor
[14:54] <robairt> hey anyone know how I can get my mounted shares to let me make changes without using sudo in the terminsal? specifically I'd like the GUI to work
[14:55] <robairt> for some reason I don't have permission and I'm not sure what I missed
[14:55] <ikonia> robairt: fix the share/user permisisons
[14:56] <ghostnik11> ikonia, i see nothing that says bluetooth
[14:57] <ikonia> ghostnik11: is it a usb dongle or internal ?
[14:57] <ghostnik11> ikonia, internal
[14:57] <ikonia> ghostnik11: can you pastebin the output of "lspci" please
[14:57] <ioudas> does anyone know how to enable vcstime on ubuntu 14.04 desktop edition? I have it set to console mode /etc/kbd/config lists do_vcstime=yes yet it doesnt show at boot... also I the power saving modes in the console tools conf are not being applied?
[15:03] <claudio3582458> i have some problem during the upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to the new version
[15:03] <claudio3582458> apt-get update doesn't work
[15:03] <robairt> got it, thanks!
[15:03] <ikonia> claudio3582458: 8.10 is EOL
[15:03] <ikonia> claudio3582458: I'd suggest you do a clean install to a supported version
[15:03] <ilfabri> Hi all.. i've a quite urgent problem to solve... i disabled vga (instead of dvi) in lxde (12.04) via the graphic tool... how can i come back to vga via terminal through ssh (i'm already connected)?
[15:03] <robairt> didn't have uid or gid set
[15:04] <claudio3582458> ikonia: is it possible to update without download a new version?
[15:04] <claudio3582458> i've an old pc and found that ubuntu 14.04 doesn't work
[15:04] <ikonia> claudio3582458 from 8.10 - I doubt it
[15:04] <claudio3582458> i've some graphic glitches during the login
[15:04] <ikonia> claudio3582458: what do you want to update to then ?
[15:05] <claudio3582458> little steps and change from kubuntu to ubuntu
[15:05] <claudio3582458> but the packet manager doesn't work
[15:05] <ikonia> claudio3582458: I'd suggest this is a bad approach
[15:05] <ikonia> claudio3582458: I'd suggest getting a supported version with a light weight desktop such as lxde supplied by lubuntu
[15:05] <claudio3582458> because the servers are too old i think. i tried updating the sources.list to the 12.04 but i got an error
[15:05] <ikonia> claudio3582458 do not change the sources.list
[15:08] <Guest82406> is there a command that allows me to work as  admin ?
[15:08] <Guest82406> when I am in the graphics enviroment
[15:08] <ikonia> Guest82406: your user is admin
[15:09] <cfhowlett> claudio3582458 end of life.  bad on desktop - criminally negligent on a server.
[15:09] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | claudio3582458
[15:10] <ikonia> cfhowlett: I wouldn't recommending trying to upgrade from 8.10
[15:10] <cfhowlett> ikonia oh SNAP!  you're right.  I missed that little detail.
[15:10] <cfhowlett> claudio3582458 old pc?  try lubuntu or xubuntu
[15:13] <_Rocky_> I have a small glitch with the zsh prompt. Its a wierd glitch that I am unable to find the answer to in google. Is this the right channel to ask or is there a more apt channel?
[15:15] <n3vit> Quick question: any reason why I would get the error: Cannot add PPA: ...... Please check that the PPA name or format is correct.
[15:16] <n3vit> A reboot sorted it, but I thought turning it off and on again was a windows kinda thing...
[15:17] <n3vit> Had tried reinstalling certs, no dice. However adding the PPA through software & updates, then downloading the cert from the server manually worked too. It wasn't a practical workaround though.
[15:19] <WXZ> I get this error when trying to open synaptic http://pastebin.com/nauTpnmy
[15:19] <WXZ> tried replacing status with status-old but it didn't help
[15:31] <nbubuntu> varunendra : I guess I know the reason I can't tar it , some file are rename with spacebar at the name like "Document   " rather than "Document"
[15:31] <grendal> i have windows installed on a second drive..i want to plug that into my usb sata adapter block and then point grub to that ...anyone familar with doing that?
[15:32] <varunendra> nbubuntu, enclose the names within double-quotes like I mentioned. You can also use wildcards like "Docu*", but that may cause potential problems in case there are matching names.
[15:33] <theperfectpunk> can anybody tell me what does apt-get install linux install?
[15:33] <theperfectpunk> or what is the linux package in ubuntu repo
[15:33] <theperfectpunk> is it the linux kernel image( latest )?
[15:33] <theperfectpunk> for the bootloader
[15:34] <theperfectpunk> boot-repair instruced me to copy a command which involves apt-get install linux
[15:35] <theperfectpunk> the package linux is not in the linux repo
[15:35] <theperfectpunk> however it was in 10.0
[15:35] <theperfectpunk> can anybody confirm if i am right or not?
[15:35] <nbubuntu> varunendra : nope , double quota doesn't work , a must to have double quota on spacing "Document " because I rename it with a spacing
[15:36] <varunendra> !info linux | theperfectpunk
[15:36] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: boot-repair said to type this command in terminal
[15:36] <theperfectpunk> "sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sdb2" apt-get install -y --force-yes grub-pc linux"
[15:37] <theperfectpunk> varunendra "sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sdb2" apt-get install -y --force-yes grub-pc linux"
[15:37] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, it seems it is just a metapackage that installs the kernel image. It does exist in my old 12.04.1 installation.
[15:37] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: do you suggest that i replace it with linux kernel image?
[15:38] <grobe0ba> yes
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> varunendra: boot-repair is just reinstalling grub
[15:38] <grobe0ba> that's what the linux meta-package referred to
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> grobe0ba: there are three or two packages referring to linux kernel images
[15:38] <grobe0ba> theperfectpunk, there are a lot more than two or three
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> grobe0ba: of same version, with debug tag
[15:39] <varunendra> theperfectpunk, perhaps "linux-image-generic". But I am just suggesting for that part, I am not familiar with the 'chroot' method of grub-install
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> or some other tag
[15:39] <grobe0ba> linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic
[15:40] <theperfectpunk> let's see if it works
[15:40] <grobe0ba> or indeed, linux-image-generic, which should install 3.13.0-32
[15:41] <grobe0ba> varunendra, all it's doing is calling apt-get inside the chroot. it's no different that "chroot /mnt/blah /bin/bash", and then working from there
[15:42] <teggers> \exit
[15:42] <teggers> well that was stupid :P sorry
[15:45] <Dudytz> how to view the default compile options of a oficial ubuntu package? (is possible with any apt tool?)
[15:45] <ikonia> Dudytz: no, they are inside the package manigest
[15:46] <nbubuntu> varunendra : how do I exclude more than a few folder ?
[15:46] <dusf> how do i remove amazon search results etc from ubuntu search?
[15:46] <k1l> dusf: in the privacy settings in system settings
[15:46] <varunendra> nbubuntu, not sure about that.
[15:47] <dusf> k1l: thanks
[15:48] <dusf> i am installing ubuntu and windows dual boot on a laptop for a friend. it's a 1TB drive and i gave windows 200gb. i set 20gb for / and 50GB for /home, i was thinking of assigning the rest of the space to ntfs and asking them to use it for all their media etc
[15:48] <dusf> do you think i would be better off just giving all the free space to /home?
[15:48] <Edward_Snowden> hi
[15:48] <k1l> dusf: that is fine, expecially if they will use windows a lot.
[15:49] <dusf> k1l: i'm trying to encourage them to not use windows at all, but they are old timers and i don't know how well they will adjust to ubuntu
[15:49] <dusf> a problem i forsee with the current setup is that they may run out of space in /home
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> dusf: if they just web browse, they will be fine :)
[15:49] <varunendra> nbubuntu, there are multiple exclude options available for tar, but I've never used them, so can't say which one(s) may work for your cause.
[15:49] <k1l> dusf: if its 1TB you can make that 200GB /home, too
[15:49] <dusf> also, the links in nautilus for document sand pictures etc poitn to /home, instead of the ntgs partitions
[15:50] <nbubuntu> varunendra : ok will search about it
[15:50] <dusf> ActionParsnip: mainly yes, but i am just thinking about small programs they might liek to use for trandferring stuff from their android phones, etc, small programs i cannot forsee
[15:50] <dusf> k1l: can i adjust this with gparted live or something without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> dusf: if you make the folders in $HOME be syminks then you can point them to your NTFS stored folders.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> dusf: I use SFTP to put data on my phone, no need for wires then
[15:51] <grobe0ba> as long as you don't use an lvm, then yes, gparted will work fine
[15:51] <vite> has this been resolved? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1309578
[15:52] <dusf> i think i may just resize home from 50GB to 200GB, create the NTFS partition, let them see how they get on with ubuntu over a month, and if they are using it most of the time I can resize home further
[15:52] <vite> So I can upgrade to 14.04 or do I still have to use 13.10?
[15:52] <grobe0ba> dusf, with that setup, i wouldn't even make seperate partitions
[15:52] <grobe0ba> i'd just make one large ext4 partition, and the large one for windows
[15:52] <grobe0ba> don't bother breaking it up
[15:55] <quadHelix> Hi all.  I am trying to setup the latest version of postfix on an updated 14.04LTS.  I am reading the guide posted at: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/postfix.html.  My problem starts when I get to the `configure sasl` section.  My file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.inf does not have a `socket listen` section.  How should I proceed?
[15:56] <Allons-y--> Hi
[15:56] <Allons-y--> Hi
[15:56] <vite> Hi guys I would like to know if I can upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 without the risk of the infinite reboot issue
[15:57] <Orphis> Is anybody having issues with g++ randomly crashing on 14.04 with latest packages?
[15:57] <linuxthefish> why won't USB audio work in ubuntu?
[15:57] <linuxthefish>  1 [Extigy         ]: USB-Audio - Sound Blaster Extigy
[15:57] <Allons-y--> What can you do when grub returns "out of partition" error?
[15:57] <grobe0ba> linuxthefish, need more info than that
[15:57] <grobe0ba> does alsa detect the device?
[15:57] <grobe0ba> are there any error messages?
[15:57] <linuxthefish> it's not showing in sound settings
[15:58] <Orphis> I couldn't manage to get a core file nor it is reproducible with specific files, so I'm pretty sure it happens for a lot of people but I haven't found a report in the bug tracker
[15:58] <grobe0ba> open a terminal, and type aplay -l
[15:58] <linuxthefish> yet shows in cat /proc/asound/cards
[15:58] <linuxthefish> card 1: Extigy [Sound Blaster Extigy], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[15:58] <grobe0ba> does it show up in alsamixer?
[15:58] <linuxthefish> shows there also
[15:58] <linuxthefish> yes grobe0ba
[15:59] <linuxthefish> i can press F6 and select it
[15:59] <grobe0ba> can you adjust values?
[15:59] <Allons-y--> Can I download grub modules, put them in a USB, and then try to load them in grub recovery?
[15:59] <grobe0ba> do you have your speakers/headphones plugged into the correct holes?
[16:00] <robairt> heh
[16:00] <linuxthefish> yes grobe0ba
[16:01] <linuxthefish> http://linuxthefish.net/ss/Screenshot-2014-0021.png see sound settings :(
[16:01] <grobe0ba> have you tried rebooting?
[16:01] <linuxthefish> yep
[16:01] <grobe0ba> i dunno then. file a PR
[16:02] <grobe0ba> works fine with my m-audio fasttrack pro on 14.05
[16:02] <grobe0ba> *14.04
[16:03] <vite> grobe0ba, do you have an msi amd based mobo?
[16:03] <grobe0ba> vite, no
[16:03] <grobe0ba> why?
[16:03] <vite> grobe0ba, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1309578
[16:03] <pumice> I installed google earth through the ubuntu software center, but will not open up no matter what I do, what can I do?
[16:04] <metaspike> what does it say when it fails pumice
[16:04] <grobe0ba> vite, i also don't have any AMD cpus
[16:04] <pumice> does nothing
[16:04]  * vite recently changed from intel to amd
[16:04] <metaspike> run it from a comand prompt
[16:04] <grobe0ba> all my stuff is Intel Xeons
[16:04] <pumice> I tried that to
[16:04]  * vite intel based pc, burned
[16:05] <pumice> I cannot remove from software center because it does not show in file
[16:05] <MagicSpud> hello I recently used an imac and there you can preview any .dae file by default....the question is how would I get this on ubuntu¿?
[16:06] <metaspike> pumice, have a look under: ~/.googleearth/crashlogs/
[16:06] <WXZ1> running 12.04, after an update all my compiz effects no longer work
[16:06] <pumice> ok thanks
[16:06] <WXZ1> I reinstalled but still not working
[16:07] <metaspike> or remove with command line with "sudo apt-get purge google-earth" or such
[16:07] <pumice> thanks. I will try
[16:07] <metaspike> WXZ1, tried launching with "fusion-icon" ?
[16:07] <metaspike> im not even sure if that's still a thing
[16:08] <WXZ1> metaspike: no, and I don't know what that is
[16:08] <WXZ1> if I do compiz --replace in the terminal, the effects start working again
[16:08] <Slart> MagicSpud: perhaps this helps? http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/dae
[16:08] <WXZ1> but the redrawing of windows is very bad
[16:08] <pumice> terminal says unable to locate google-earth
[16:09] <Slart> MagicSpud: not sure if any of these support previews in nautilus though
[16:09] <metaspike> google-earth-stable?
[16:09] <pumice> is it possible that I may have a 64 bit, and installed 32 bit
[16:11] <metaspike> to find it from installed programs
[16:11] <metaspike> dpkg –get-selections | grep google
[16:11] <MagicSpud> Slart yes of course it helps... you can see there apple preview is among the programs which can open dae files on mac...the question would how do I get glc player perform as the preview program for dae files on ubuntu?¿
[16:11] <pumice> I see that there are crash reports in regards to linux
[16:12] <Allons-y--> Next time I will install grub in a different partition
[16:12] <metaspike> WXZ1, it sounds so bad like, maybe your video driver isn't even installed properly?
[16:12] <WXZ1> metaspike: I'll try reinstalling it
[16:13] <data> hey, I am trying to install nova-common. But nova exists as a user in our ldap already. is there a way to change the name for the service?
[16:13] <metaspike> maybe... play a game or glx_info, glxgears... if that's bad too you know its broke
[16:14] <pumice> I will try re-installing it
[16:14] <Slart> MagicSpud: I'm not really sure. It seems to me that nautilus does less and less for each update.. it might not be possible to get a quick preview-thing running on ubuntu
[16:14] <MagicSpud> oh
[16:14] <MagicSpud> a pity
[16:14] <MagicSpud> I like ubuntu
[16:15] <grobe0ba> data, services shouldn't be in LDAP....
[16:15] <JakePee> Out of curiosity
[16:15] <grobe0ba> they should be in /etc/passwd, since they're local
[16:15] <JakePee> Does 'sudo su -' fully inherit root root environ/priveleges on ubuntu server 14.04
[16:16] <metaspike> yes
[16:17] <Slart> JakePee: there used to be some issues with using "sudo su" instead recommending things like sudo -i  instead..  but sudo has changed in the last release so I'm not really sure what is recommended these days
[16:18] <Slart> !sudo
[16:18] <nearst> back
[16:19] <metaspike> the important thing is the little '-' after su, that means you get the su enviroment variables
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> JakePee: "sudo su -" and "sudo -i" will make you be root and use root's profile. "sudo -s" will elevate your access but keep you using your user profile.
[16:20] <metaspike> "elevate this users privillages so I can have access to the super user account with its enviroment variables"  sudo su -
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> metaspike: sudo su -    will make you root, there is no "super user"
[16:22] <LiENUS> this is a strange networking question.... i'm running ubuntu 14.04 i have no firewall installed, i have a machine at home <IP_ADDRESS> that i ssh into regularly, when im at home ssh works fine, when i go into work (vpn link betwen home and work) i can't ssh into it and pinging it gets no reply, i fired up a sniffer on the router and i dont even see the icmp traffic from ping coming out of my machine
[16:22] <LiENUS> i can access another machine on that network (<IP_ADDRESS>) just fine from work...
[16:22] <LiENUS> i see no static routes and iptables -vnL shows nothing...
[16:22] <pumice> pumice
[16:22] <LiENUS> is there some other place it could be getting blackholed?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> LiENUS: forward port 22/TCP on your router to the server PC, then ssh to your WAN IP on port 22 and it will connect
[16:23] <LiENUS> ActionParsnip, but that doesnt sovle whatever networking problem is going on
[16:23] <LiENUS> clearly theres something blocking the connection
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> LiENUS: if you add a route on the system you are connecting with via VPN back home to push treaffic for <IP_ADDRESS> down the VPN interface
[16:24] <LiENUS> the route is on the router already
[16:24] <LiENUS> the traffic isnt making it from my laptop to the router
[16:24] <jere> What does it mean to build a module against any kernel source tree present on file system and not just those happened to be install in /lib/ at sometime?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> LiENUS: but is it on the client system?
[16:24] <LiENUS> why would it need to be?
[16:25] <LiENUS> my laptop has a route for <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> has the route properly installed in it
[16:25] <LiENUS> why would my laptop need the route?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> LiENUS: is "my laptop" the client or the server?
[16:26] <LiENUS> the vpn runs on the routers, the vpn is properly functioning, the router at work can ping all machines at home
[16:26] <17SAAJ0A5> I get this error: dlopen: /usr/lib/compizconfig/backends/libgconf.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when I try to run compiz --replace
[16:26] <LiENUS> my laptop can't ping one of the machines that can ping another, and the traffic headed for the machine i cant ping isnt even leaving my laptop
[16:26] <LiENUS> ergo the routes are not the issue
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> LiENUS: so you can ping other systems on the <IP_ADDRESS>/24 network?
[16:27] <metaspike> jere, building into the source tree means it's always more of the main assembly, modules are loaded when they are needed
[16:27] <metaspike> always part of*
[16:28] <LiENUS> ActionParsnip, yes
[16:28] <LiENUS> the traffic destined for <IP_ADDRESS> never even leaves my laptop, a traffic sniffer on the router at work isnt even seeing the traffic
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> LiENUS: have you tried adding the route, just to force the traffic...
[16:29] <LiENUS> something other than iptables or an errant static route is blocking the traffic from leaving my laptop in the first place
[16:30] <bserver> hi
[16:30] <metaspike> flush dns and arp caches?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> LiENUS: possibly, have you tried wireshark on the client system?
[16:30] <bserver> hello
[16:31] <metaspike> greetings earthling
[16:31] <bserver> waving
[16:31] <LiENUS> metaspike, i'm not using dns for this connection, direct ip connection and i dont see an entry in arp for the system but i'll try flushing
[16:31] <MoonSlime> hi anyone has a good recommendation for an IP surveilance camera ubuntu server management app? record live motion sensor event memory log.
[16:32] <LiENUS> as soon as i figure out how to flush arp...
[16:32] <metaspike> could be a few things  i guess, dns masquerade even
[16:32] <metaspike> im rusty as a spoon thogh
[16:32] <LiENUS> metaspike, if i'm not using dns at all how would dns be an issue?
[16:33] <metaspike> not you, the router
[16:34] <Resinator> hey ive been having a problem ever since i installed this new ssd
[16:34] <LiENUS> metaspike, dns for what?
[16:34] <Resinator> linux liveusb's dont even want to boot they keep hanging, then even if i can get ubuntu to install i'll reboot and it'll hang
[16:34] <LiENUS> the vpn itself doesnt use dns at all (everythings static) and the router isnt even seeing traffic destined for that one system
[16:34] <LiENUS> a packet sniffer is showing nothing leaving my laptop
[16:35] <metaspike> ah ok
[16:35] <metaspike> LiENUS, in terminal just say "arp"
[16:35] <metaspike> is your router in there?
[16:35] <Resinator> it's running fine right now, but i might reboot and it wont boot just plain black screens
[16:36] <metaspike> or whatever you are trying to connect to?
[16:36] <basketball> how can i sync 2 folders 2 ways
[16:36] <LiENUS> metaspike, my laptop can access everything but <IP_ADDRESS> just fine so the work router (<IP_ADDRESS>) and the other end of the vpn (<IP_ADDRESS>) are in there
[16:37] <LiENUS> naturally what i'm trying to connect to isnt in there because arp doesnt work like that
[16:39] <basketball> OerHeks, you on
[16:40] <metaspike> you confused me also, my laptop can access everything and "the traffic headed for the machine i cant ping isnt even leaving my laptop" are contradictory statements
[16:40] <17SAAJ0A5> I get this error: dlopen: /usr/lib/compizconfig/backends/libgconf.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when I try to run compiz --replace
[16:40] <LiENUS> metaspike, i can access the internet, the work network, and my home network through the vpn
[16:40] <iptable> install libgconf
[16:41] <LiENUS> thats the 3 networks icare about
[16:41] <LiENUS> for some reason though my laptop is blocking traffic destined for <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:41] <metaspike> ah
[16:41] <LiENUS> which is on my home network
[16:41] <dONALD> Hi ppl!
[16:41] <dONALD> Could someone help me with GRUB?
[16:42] <LiENUS> clearly theres got to be something cache'd on my laptop blocking access, but arp looks good, no errant static routes, and iptables is empty
[16:43] <metaspike> i guess the big question is, what are you using as a routing protocol, rip or ospf
[16:43] <LiENUS> bgp
[16:44] <WXZ1> iptable: nope, didn't work
[16:44] <LiENUS> the router itself running bgp can ping <IP_ADDRESS> just fine, and other machines at work can access <IP_ADDRESS> just fine
[16:44] <LiENUS> and from my laptop i can ssh into <IP_ADDRESS> and then from there ssh out to <IP_ADDRESS> just fine
[16:44] <WXZ1> I had all of them installed but I also installed libgconf2.4-cil-dev
[16:48] <basketball>  how to i make a 2 way sync between 2 folders
[16:49] <metaspike> LiENUS, im guessing you left enough space for your laptop to connect within the subnet mask
[16:49] <LiENUS> metaspike, on what?
[16:51] <iptable> WXZ1, changed nick?
[16:51] <blopxop> any idea how to run bash command ~/.profile with root privilege without giving the user full right to said command?
[16:51] <iptable> basketball, use 2-way sync software
[16:52] <basketball> iptable,  which one
[16:52] <iptable> basketball, unison for example
[16:52] <basketball> iptable,  is that a gui
[16:52] <iptable> basketball, alternatively, if you don't want a delete operation in your 2-way sync, use rsync, one way and then another. unison WILL delete files from one host if they got deleted on the other and vice versa
[16:53] <iptable> basketball, no, it's CLI.
[16:53] <basketball> iptable,  is there a gui one
[16:53] <metaspike> ipv4 right LiENUS so...
[16:53] <iptable> basketball, well you should have asked... and searched. Install unison AND unison-gtk2
[16:54] <bb_> hii ..can somebody tell me why update manager is not showing any release upgrade even when there is one
[16:54] <LiENUS> metaspike, the subnet masks on everythign should be fine, at work i'm using a /21 and since i can ping everything at work anyway...
[16:54] <iptable> basketball, in trusty, install unison-all and unison-all-gtk
[16:54] <iptable> basketball, that will give you CLI and a GUI for it
[16:55] <basketball> iptable,  E: Package 'unison-all-gtk' has no installation candidate
[16:55] <metaspike> but you cant ping work, from home. and it's not your laptop itself (tried pluging into something else?)
[16:55] <basketball> E: Package 'unison-all' has no installation candidate
[16:55] <bb_> i want to upgrade to 14.04lts without liveCD
[16:56] <OerHeks> basketball, maybe you need to enable universe in your mint
[16:57] <metaspike> if you got a brand new computer, plugged it in, chances are, you still wouldn't be able to connect right? or don't know
[16:58] <iptable> basketball, I said, on trusty. what's your ubuntu?
[16:58] <iptable> basketball, and did you try searching for "unison" to see what is available?
[17:00] <LiENUS> brb renewing ip address
[17:00] <metaspike> your local network, and your work network, are part of the same vpn network, running bgp - bit your ip addresses are all over the place
[17:02] <basketball> iptable,  — conflict
[17:02] <basketball> pantheon-files.dockitem — conflict
[17:02] <iptable> basketball, conflict what? I need to know what is happening. I cannot see your screen.
[17:02] <basketball> that is all it says
[17:02] <basketball> Synchronization summary
[17:02] <basketball> The synchronization was successful.
[17:02] <basketball> The replicas are not fully synchronized.
[17:02] <basketball> There were 2 skipped items.
[17:03] <basketball>  — conflict
[17:03] <basketball> pantheon-files.dockitem — conflict
[17:03] <LiENUS> back
[17:03] <iptable> basketball, ok, so you managed to install it?
[17:03] <basketball> yes
[17:03] <LiENUS> metaspike, work network <IP_ADDRESS>/21 home network <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[17:03] <basketball> then i ran it and selected my two folders
[17:03] <iptable> basketball, you didn't say that. you just said "conflict". My uess was you had a conflict while installing packages
[17:04] <LiENUS> home router connects via eoip to work network and gets <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:04] <iptable> basketball, so it synced apart from some folder which was conflicting something. check what's happening. maybe you have 2 folders with files inside and files are different.
[17:04] <iptable> basketball, basically, programically unison could not figure out which copy to save.
[17:05] <basketball> iptable,  the folders have the same contents
[17:05] <iptable> basketball, well, looks like either they don't or you did(not) select the right options in unison gtk
[17:05] <steff3> Hi! I have a problem! My Lubuntu session (in a VM) doesnt start anymore. I turned of the PC mechanically after the VM didint react anymore due to a lack of memory. Now I can type in my password but then the password window goes away but nothing shows up except the standard background.... Does somebody have an idea what I can do?
[17:05] <basketball> iptable,  ok ill delte the profile then will you walk me through it
[17:06] <iptable> basketball, I can't remember how to use unison. it's something I always refer to the manual pages for.
[17:06] <iptable> basketball, read available options, it explains which one does what. select what you think you want.
[17:07] <blopxop> Erm, any idea how to run bash command ~/.profile with root privilege without giving the user full right to said command?
[17:08] <iptable> blopxop, .profile is NOT an application/command. it's a bash script, and therefore no.
[17:08] <MagicSpud> when using gksu nautilus my desktop wallpaper resets to default. why and how to prevent this?
[17:08] <blopxop> i mean the command in .profile
[17:08]  * iptable goes to enjoy an evening. laters
[17:09] <iptable> blopxop, oh. look at sudo and /etc/sudoers. lots of examples on google. you can make sudo /some/command work without password prompt
[17:09] <iptable> blopxop, and lock sudo to a single command for nopassword etc
[17:09] <blopxop> ok thankyou
[17:10] <ghostnik11> can anyone help me find my bluetooth adapter here is my pastebin from terminal the internal bluetooth adapter is not shown: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7831317/
[17:12] <ghostnik11> here is my lsusb output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7831324/
[17:13] <ghostnik11> is there any other commands i can run to see and identify my bluetooth adapter because lspci doesn't show it
[17:15] <basketball> iptable,  what kind of synchronization is it
[17:16] <LiENUS> this is interesting dhclient -r && dhclient wlan0 seems to have solved it.... so where is it caching and what?
[17:16] <LiENUS> bug in suspend maybe? i suspended at home, went into work...
[17:16] <Seregas> hi, for what i can use ubuntu cloud ?
[17:17] <OssumPawesome> hello out there - I'm trying to set up a web server on my ubuntu box, and so far everythings working great (with some help from you guys).  I'm trying to solve the problem of my dynamic global ip (75.143.XXX.XXX).  There is a piece of software called a dynamic update client available from my domain host (noip), but its only for windows.  How do I either update my domain host or keep my global ip static?
[17:18] <metaspike> dhclient managed dhcp names
[17:19] <OssumPawesome> there is an option in my router to just leave my global ip static - can I do that without breaking things? my isp said I cannot have a static ip...
[17:19] <metaspike> which would have no effect what so ever
[17:19] <metaspike> if everything was statically defined
[17:19] <metaspike> LiENUS,
[17:20] <LiENUS> metaspike, it forced a refresh of the connection information...
[17:20] <LiENUS> i released the ip address and retrieved a new one from the server (was changing unrelated settings for the transparent proxy to bypass it for my laptop)
[17:20] <OssumPawesome> im going to try using the router option to do a static ip address and see if everything breaks
[17:21] <sergio79ct> ciao a tutti
[17:28] <metaspike> LiENUS, have a look under /etc/dhcp/...  dhclient uses configs there, whats your ip now?
[17:28] <metaspike> i guess it doesnt matter gg
[17:28] <steff3> Hi! I have a problem! My Lubuntu session (in a VM) doesnt start anymore. I turned of the PC mechanically after the VM didint react anymore due to a lack of memory. Now I can type in my password but then the password window goes away but nothing shows up except the standard background.... Does somebody have an idea what I can do?
[17:28] <LiENUS> metaspike, ip stayed the same it just forced the server to push configuration information elsewhere
[17:29] <LiENUS> on the server side it put me in a special address list that bypasses the proxy
[17:29] <metaspike> that's cool
[17:29] <LiENUS> and i fully expect it to come back tomorrow when i show up at work again :/
[17:29] <LiENUS> its always been an "sometimes" problem
[17:30] <metaspike> steff3, ctrl+alt+f2  for a spare terminal, then you can start killing things
[17:30] <metaspike> f2,f3,etc
[17:32] <Joseph___> team
[17:32] <metaspike> htop is good for freeing memory
[17:33] <Joseph___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7831414/
[17:33] <Joseph___> Kindly help
[17:33] <metaspike> LiENUS, just a guess, are you sure arp is correct on the server? IP and Mac adresses?
[17:33] <Joseph___> this is belongs to  ubuntu 12.04 , yet 14.04 is fine
[17:34] <metaspike> maybe set arp to "reply only" or "dont change this mode" or something
[17:34] <LiENUS> metaspike, given that traffic doesnt even leave my laptop and every other machine on the network could access it just fine i dont think arp on the server was the problem
[17:34] <steff3> metaspike: do you mean for solving the problem now or for next time when my system has hang up?
[17:34] <metaspike> next time
[17:35] <steff3> any idea how to solve the problem now?
[17:35] <steff3> metaspike: I need some data from there!
[17:36] <metaspike> ok, steff3 do it now
[17:37] <canaima> hola
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[17:37] <kontoo> hi! do the kernel updates that are marked as "urgency=medium" provide any security fixes? http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/canonical_kernel_team/trusty/main/base/linux-headers-generic
[17:37] <canaima> dfs
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[17:38] <kontoo> asking because i have to explicitely install them on my server
[17:40] <steff3> metaspike: what do you mean?
[17:40] <kontoo> anyone can help?
[17:42] <metaspike> steff3, if you go "ctrl+alt+f3"    at your frozen screen, there's a slight chance you will be able to login, and kill processes with a program called "htop". otherwise, i suggest rebooting into "recovery mode" to preform some mainenence, lookup how to disable startup services and remove unwanted software. basics...
[17:42] <metaspike> maintenance*
[17:42] <OssumPawesome> how do i get jquery with command line?
[17:45] <calzifer> hi, is there a nm-applet alternative?
[17:46] <metaspike> kontoo, have a look at apt-listchanges
[17:48] <kontoo> metaspike: don't have that command, which package do i have to install?
[17:48] <kontoo> never mind, got it!
[17:50] <metaspike> OssumPawesome, what?!
[17:50] <Rohan_m> I'm trying to open a file in C (using fopen()) which is in home directory but i'm unabable to open it see my code http://codejaw.com/vvbd0
[17:50] <metaspike> like coding? vim, emacs...
[17:51] <Allons-y--_> hi
[17:51] <OssumPawesome> i figured it out - its sudo apt-get install libjs-jquery
[17:51] <Allons-y--_> I'm not sure if this is the right channel but my BIOS doesn't detect any DVDs nor USBs. How can I repair it?
[17:51] <super> why the heck everytime I plug in my sata hard drive I always have to type "su -c 'echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan" ?
[17:51] <metaspike> oh cool
[17:52] <Rohan_m> I'm trying to open a file in C (using fopen()) which is in home directory but i'm unabable to open it see my code http://codejaw.com/vvbd0
[17:52] <super> compiled your code or is this just a script?
[17:53] <Rohan_m> super: compiled
[17:53] <super> if it is only a script save the file in xxxx.sh
[17:53] <steff3> metaspike:when I use the ctrl alt f3 command, i get ask for a login and a password. I entered the one of the session I cant login but it says the pw is invalid. What password does it want?
[17:53] <super> Rohan_m, chmod +X or something like that to make it execute
[17:53] <super> chmod 775 nameoffile
[17:54] <eeee> Rohan_m: $HOME doesn't have a "/" at the end
[17:54] <kontoo> metaspike: in the changelog there is only "linux ABI 3.13.xxx"
[17:54] <kontoo> so i guess there are no security updates
[17:54] <Rohan_m> super: no man there is nothing wrong with permissons cause when i type path manually it works
[17:54] <eeee> printf("%s", home); itll probably be /home/usermyfile.txt
[17:55] <Rohan_m> eeee: yeah
[17:56] <Rohan_m> eeee:sorry its "/home/user/myfile.txt
[17:56] <eeee> so add a "/"
[17:56] <acovrig> I just got an AMD 6970 GFX card, and am wondering what the best way to install drivers is (apt-get, some download from their site, ect.)?
[17:56] <Rohan_m> eeee: add a "/" where ?
[17:56] <metaspike> i would have just used ~ lol, is that wrong?
[17:56] <metaspike> i guess so
[17:58] <metaspike> ubuntu  > system / administration > additional drivers  or whatever its called
[17:58] <eeee> Rohan_m: add a "/" after you get the env variable home
[17:59] <Rohan_m> eeee: ok let me try
[17:59] <eeee> Rohan_m: strcat(home,getenv("HOME")); strcat(home,"/myfile.txt");
[18:01] <Rohan_m> eeee: there some rubbish behind the /home i get this output "�����/home/ar/myfile.txt"
[18:01] <metaspike> acovrig, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/drivers or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[18:01] <MeanderingCode> how can i recover from a fatal dpkg error "reading files list for package 'klipper': Bad address"?
[18:03] <acovrig> metaspike, thanks, but this is an AMD card, not Nvidia, so the 2nd link is not correct; I know about the first link, but am wondering if there is a 'better' way...
[18:03] <beanee> do any of you know what this is *** BUG ***
[18:03] <beanee> In pixman_region32_init_rect: Invalid rectangle passed
[18:03] <beanee> Set a breakpoint on '_pixman_log_error' to debug
[18:04] <Guest82406> I tried to upgrade from 13.10 and my ubuntu was destroyed. Now I work through a usb flash to get access to my files but I have no permission to all of them ( of course I remember my pass ) . how can get access to all my files ?
[18:04] <metaspike> if it "just works", i would be happy eh, especially with AMD - honestly though, ive been quite happy with the opensource "gallium" drives though, i dont even see the point in getting the properitory ones
[18:04] <metaspike> for me anyway
[18:06] <Rohan_m> eeee: Solved Thnaks a lot fellla
[18:07] <beanee> please pm me
[18:07] <metaspike> beanee, when does that happen?? :p
[18:07] <beanee> idk you know xD
[18:08] <beanee> *** BUG ***
[18:08] <beanee> In pixman_region32_init_rect: Invalid rectangle passed
[18:08] <beanee> Set a breakpoint on '_pixman_log_error' to debug
[18:09] <metaspike> Guest82406, you might have better luck booting with "recovery mode" and with a xserver with root, just so you can copy stuff without worry about permissions
[18:11] <Guest82406> metaspike xserver ? I tried a recovery mode but it didnt work , I am not sure I uses the right choices ( after choosing recovery mode I get a sreen that asks me stuff but i cant read it cause its in strange non letter symbols  )
[18:11] <metaspike> beanee, it means nothing without context
[18:11] <beanee> what does that means
[18:12] <metaspike> like... when does it give you this message, what are you doing?
[18:12] <beanee> oh
[18:12] <beanee> when i do "gnome-panel"
[18:12] <disappearedng> Hey can anyone explain why when my USER_LIB = Base64 disappears when I include other libs to my makefile? https://gist.github.com/vicngtor/b6d05e02cb31cf8e524a
[18:13] <beanee> in the terminal
[18:14] <metaspike> ok Guest82406, open a terminal alt+ctrl+t . type "sudo nautilus"  , you should be able to copy anything, to anywhere with that, be careful though
[18:14] <eeee> metaspike: isn't gksu nautilus better?
[18:15] <metaspike> yeah true that
[18:15] <beanee> can you help me metastrike?
[18:15] <beanee> can you help me metaspike?
[18:15] <metaspike> ummm.. :)
[18:16] <metaspike> dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel? honestly I have no clue
[18:16] <metaspike> your error is the dodgiest ive heard all day :)
[18:16] <beanee> still  bugs :(
[18:16] <beanee> but thanks :)
[18:17] <Guest82406> metaspike we are talking about working through the usb flash right?
[18:18] <nated> hi, I'm using uupdate to update the libsane package and rebuild it, it fails after issuing "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc" in the updated source dir with a error about not finding the .dsc file for the new package
[18:18] <metaspike> that as well... just right click copy + paste to where its going right?...
[18:19] <nated> is there an inbetween step between uupdate and dpkg-buildpackage I'm missing?
[18:19] <metaspike> beanee, apt-get upgrade, pray someone has fixed it
[18:19] <beanee> cool
[18:19] <beanee> im praying
[18:20] <metaspike> apt-get dist-upgrade... i cant remember
[18:20] <metaspike> one of them
[18:20] <metaspike> first one is... safer
[18:20] <beanee> cool im trying
[18:20] <beanee> thanks
[18:21] <beanee> not fixed
[18:21] <beanee> :(
[18:21] <beanee> trying the other one, non safe
[18:21] <MacDuffMan> hey JO
[18:22] <beanee> nope
[18:22] <MacDuffMan> how is the thing called on an mac laptop when you press the command key?
[18:22] <metaspike> you can always remove gnome altogether, ha
[18:22] <metaspike> xfce4, kde etc
[18:22] <beanee> lol
[18:23] <_Rocky_> MacDuffMan: What thinh?
[18:23] <_Rocky_> *thing
[18:23] <MacDuffMan> When you press the command key on a mac pc
[18:23] <MacDuffMan> a windows appear from a birds view
[18:23] <beanee> im just reinstalling the whole system
[18:24] <Guest82406> well metaspike it opened a window in home from which I couldn't go to my hard-drive . I went to it but again no access. in terminal: " Failed to register client:" or "Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing."
[18:24] <MacDuffMan> you have this in fedora when you press the window key
[18:24] <beanee> i have used more 5 hours on this today
[18:24] <metaspike> hold on beanee ...
[18:24] <beanee> ok
[18:24] <_Rocky_> MacDuffMan: Are you talking about the launchpad?
[18:25] <_Rocky_> MacDuffMan: Where you see all the applications?
[18:25] <OerHeks> MacDuffMan, superkey?
[18:25] <MacDuffMan> yes but in fedora you see all windows at the same time from a birds view
[18:25] <Hanumaan>  with nmap -sP option unable to see the system which is up what could be the reason?
[18:25] <metaspike> beanee, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell  try that i guess
[18:25] <metaspike> if that fails... yeah :p
[18:26] <metaspike> wait that's old news
[18:26] <metaspike> no idea just.. nuke it
[18:26] <metaspike> :(
[18:27] <_Rocky_> WolfInSheepskin: Oh yea I think its called the "Mission Control"
[18:27] <WolfInSheepskin> lol?
[18:27] <eeee> lol :D
[18:27] <eeee> Macpollo ?
[18:27] <metaspike> Guest82406. open a terminal
[18:27] <_Rocky_> WolfInSheepskin: Really. Thats what its called
[18:27] <brokenaudio> How do I increase my audio latency? right now it's 0 and flat out ins't working properly
[18:28] <WolfInSheepskin> ah I see
[18:28] <WolfInSheepskin> ok thx
[18:28] <metaspike> Guest82406 type lsblk
[18:28] <_Rocky_> and it opens when you press the F3 key
[18:28] <brokenaudio> lshw -c multimedia gives driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0  that should be 10
[18:28] <WolfInSheepskin> ahh EXPOSE ??
[18:28] <metaspike> or rather sudo su -  , if you need root access
[18:29] <beanee> metaspike you seam like a nice guy, how can i find you when you got timeoff/abreak ?
[18:29] <metaspike> i'll pm you eh
[18:29] <_Rocky_> beanee: You don't find metaspike. He finds you. ;
[18:30] <beanee> cool, hi Rocky
[18:30] <_Rocky_> Hello
[18:30] <hyper_t> hello :)
[18:31] <Guest82406> metaspike ok done that
[18:32] <metaspike> cool,   so one of those  /dev/somethings   is your drive.
[18:33] <Guest82406> metaspike in mydrive there is also a windows partition :P
[18:33] <Guest82406> but ok sure
[18:34] <metaspike> cool, under MOUNTPOINT  is where they are mounted, where you can find them under /
[18:35] <Guest82406> metaspike ok I thing I know which I want
[18:37] <metaspike> so your either cd to it 'cd /mountpoint/sos/' and 'cp -r ./sosfiles /mountpoint2/'    to get it across or use nautilus.
[18:39] <Guest82406> metaspike cd is like chaing partitions? it sounds scary :P how could I use nautilus ?
[18:42] <metaspike> whats the mountpoints say
[18:42] <metaspike> i'll make this dead simple for you
[18:43] <Guest82406> ├─sda5   8:5    0 180.6G  0 part /media/ubuntu/79a96d13-d5ad-4bf7-8dfa-0786b5b62
[18:43] <Guest82406> this is the one I nees access
[18:43] <Guest82406> d*
[18:44] <NHO> Hi.
[18:45] <metaspike> nautilus /media/ubuntu/79a96d13-d5ad-4bf7-8dfa-0786b5b62
[18:45] <metaspike> put that into the terminal Guest82406
[18:45] <brokenaudio> how do i increase the latency and buffer size for sound? it's skipping right now because it's too low
[18:46] <NHO> I want to change Fedora install to Ubuntu. There is nice LVM thing with encrypted partition that I do not want to maul too much
[18:46] <NHO> Encryption was made by cryptsetup, there is persistent unencrypted partition that should not be touched in reinstall.
[18:46] <Guest82406> metaspike Unable to find the requested file. Please check the spelling and try again.
[18:47] <NHO> Could anyone suggest what should I do to preserve keys to my encrypted partition?
[18:49] <metaspike> cd /media/ubuntu/79a96d13-d5ad-4bf7-8dfa-0786b5b62<hit tab key to autocomplete> press ENTER then ' nautilus . '       or i give up, maybe if you give me both mountpoints i can write a basic script
[18:49] <metaspike> a oneliner for you...
[18:50] <Guest82406> metaspike ok ty
[18:51] <Guest82406> metaspike I have two questions , what the other point you need , is the one the flash uses? . what does cd really does ?
[18:52] <metaspike> brokenaudio, you will need to define this in asoundrc
[18:53] <metaspike> brokenaudio, like these guys from arch... same principle, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=171477
[18:53] <metaspike> or use jack, with a realtime kernel.
[18:54] <brokenaudio> rt kernel is slower in terms of overall performance so i'll try that first
[18:55] <metaspike> Guest82406, i would need  entire output of lsblk again, chuck it onto pastebin.
[18:55] <metaspike> the rest u should really discover for yourself?
[18:58] <Guest82406> metaspike http://pastebin.com/F3jEB5Lu
[18:59] <Guest82406> metaspike ok I thing I got what cd does , its not so scary after all sry :P
[19:01] <trony> !list
[19:03] <metaspike> hmmm
[19:05] <singh> Hi, GoodMorning  Guys, I need help to install whatsapp on my mchaine it is Ubuntu
[19:06] <mavidoritos> singh,
[19:06] <mavidoritos> i am not a perfect ubuntu user but now i use whatsapp
[19:06] <mavidoritos> i want to answer you
[19:06] <singh> thanks
[19:06] <singh> please
[19:06] <mavidoritos> Search for Pidgin whatsapp plugin
[19:07] <mavidoritos> pidgin is a instant messenger maybe you know
[19:07] <mavidoritos> you will see a page about how to install whatsapp in ubuntu
[19:07] <mavidoritos> but it is not healty
[19:07] <mavidoritos> i have big problems with whatsapp
[19:08] <mavidoritos> for example pidgin crashes in every two minutes :)
[19:08] <metaspike> Guest82406: this should do it. cp -rfv --preserve=timestamps /media/ubuntu/OS/home /media/ubuntu/79a96d13-d5ad-4bf7-8dfa-0786b5b62
[19:09] <metaspike> copy your home partition to your other drive...
[19:09] <metaspike> no... wait
[19:09] <metaspike> no, that should work! it should work! *tiwtch*
[19:12] <metaspike> there's always... what's that alternative to pidgin called?
[19:12] <metaspike> that's right, NOTHING!
[19:13] <etronik> err what is the openjdk package used for development? I only see the jre (runtime) package
[19:13] <metaspike> jdk
[19:13] <metaspike> ?
[19:14] <metaspike> openjdk-dev?
[19:15] <mavidoritos> singh,
[19:15] <mavidoritos> http://codemink.com/install-whatsapp-on-linux-operating-system/
[19:15] <trism> etronik: openjdk-6-jdk or openjdk-7-jdk
[19:15] <etronik> it's openjdk-7-jdk
[19:15] <mavidoritos> here a user tells about whatsapp in ubuntu
[19:16] <mavidoritos> i did it, and works. maybe you can try
[19:16] <etronik> trism, yeah thanks
[19:18] <Guest47119> I'm back ... still with an incomplete installation problem that I can't seem to fix myself.  Anyone wanna help me get rid of a partial installation of Wine?
[19:20] <Guest47119> Ben64: You see, I opened the question to the entire room ... ;)
[19:24] <Lunario> Could somebody help me with my trying to boot my newly installed Ubuntu 14.04 via UEFI? GRUB does not start at all anymore, though it is installed.
[19:25] <Lunario> Here's what I explicated in the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2235393
[19:25] <etronik> once I install the openjdk... how do I setup the JAVA_HOME variable ? ie. where do I point it to ?
[19:27] <acovrig> I’m stuck in low graphics mode, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7831982/ is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log (I noticed the Kernel Module version does *not* match driver line) what can I do to fix it?
[19:27] <metaspike> arrgh they just keep coming arrgh
[19:27] <Rohan_m> Hey Does Any Body Know Format Specifier for "long unsigned int" in C language ?
[19:28] <acovrig> I have a Radeon HD 6970 (which seemed do (sorta) work w/out any ATI drivers) and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[19:29] <Guest47119> Anything on $HOME/.PlayOnLinux/wine/linux-x86/ .... is something I can delete without a worry of messing up the system files?
[19:29] <jkitchen> trying to load qla2xxx driver on a fresh 12.04.4 install and getting: [ 4912.671747] qla2xxx [0000:05:00.0]-1020:12: **** Failed mbx[0]=4006, mb[1]=907, mb[2]=d006, mb[3]=6100, cmd=59 ****.
[19:30] <Guest47119> ANYONE OUT THERE?
[19:31] <compdoc> just us pink
[19:31] <jkitchen> the full output from kern.log during the 'modprobe qla2xxx' run is this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7832017/
[19:38] <metaspike> Guest47119, go for it
[19:38] <metaspike> say goodby to wine though
[19:38] <malakas> my no-alert sound doesnt work :(
[19:38] <Lunario> Could somebody help me with my trying to boot my newly installed Ubuntu 14.04 via UEFI?   I've been trying to fix it with so many commands, but I can't remove it or to reinstall it
[19:41] <metaspike> go for gold
[19:41] <eeee> lol
[19:41] <eeee> Lunario: did you try entering the boot options after the pc starts?
[19:42] <Guest47119> metaspike: I'm lost.  Tried "dpkg --configure -a
[19:42] <Ben64> Guest47119: the problem is you never respond in a timely fashion, then you leave
[19:42] <metaspike> anything under $HOME is not a system dependency, it might have something open in there thats all but bleh
[19:42] <eeee> Lunario: on some pc's you can press a button and enter the boot options, it's probably a hard-coded bios issue
[19:43] <Guest47119> metaspike: Tried to remove it, to do a complete removal and to reinstall it -...
[19:43] <metaspike> cd to that directory, you absolutely must remove
[19:43] <Guest47119> Ben64: I'm sorry.  I don't do it on purpose
[19:43] <metaspike> or open a terminal there, make sure its in the right path
[19:44] <Lunario> eeee: I already checked the Bios/Uefi and looked at the Boot Options - first it showed ubuntu next to WindowsBootLoader, now it only shows WindowsBootLoader... as if GRUB had been deleted by Windows
[19:44] <metaspike> sudo rm -r .
[19:44] <Guest47119> metaspike: It's not good.
[19:44] <metaspike> does that work?
[19:44] <Ben64> be very careful with that command
[19:44] <metaspike> yes
[19:45] <Ben64> one typo or being in the wrong directory and bam!
[19:45] <metaspike> its almost the most dangerous command ever
[19:45] <Guest47119> Ben64: My wife keeps criticizing me for the time I spend on the computer
[19:46] <Squall5668> dpkg-reconfigure wife
[19:46] <metaspike> recursive removal, snip the branch from the tree, or fell the whole thing..
[19:46] <eeee> Lunario: do you have a live usb/cd?
[19:46] <Guest47119> metaspike: But I can do that by being specific about the base directory?
[19:46] <etronik> what's the best way to add to the PATH in latest 14.04 ? I see lots of different ways...
[19:46] <Lunario> yes
[19:46] <Guest47119> Squall5668: Well, she's not perfect, but she is good in other ways
[19:47] <eeee> Lunario: try this sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[19:47] <Rohan_m> any ssh expert here ?
[19:47] <Guest47119> BRB
[19:47] <eeee> Lunario: then this sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[19:47] <Lunario> ok, will try
[19:48] <modest_> What are you looking to do Rohan_m? Lets see what I know.
[19:48] <metaspike> Guest47119 anything you specify after ' rm -r  '   will be destroyed
[19:48] <metaspike> rm -r poverty&war
[19:48] <patrick_> heh
[19:49] <patrick_> rm -r hiphop
[19:49] <patrick_> rm -r rap
[19:49] <Guest47119> metaspike: Ok, but what do I do about /usr/share ... ?
[19:49] <lickalott> hey guys.... i'm getting a message on update manager that says there is "new hardware support available"  but when i try to install it I get an error.
[19:49] <Lunario> eeee: do I have to carry out those two commands on the already installed ubuntu partition, or where?
[19:50] <lickalott> i'm guessing this has something to do with the 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade (which hasn't been done on this computer yet).
[19:50] <compdoc> tell your wife, if it werent for the computer, youd be spending more with her. that should shut her up
[19:50] <Rohan_m> modest_: Hey suppose i make a ssh connection from my PC to Remote PC so i create a Public Key and Private Key and i have to Upload public Key to Remote server's .ssh directory ? so that key can have any name like client1.pub or it has to be authorized_keys
[19:50] <lickalott> can I just to the apt-dist-upgrade (if thats the right syntax)?
[19:50] <eeee> Lunario: you have to boot into ubuntu, or access the /boot/efi partition from a live usb/cd
[19:51] <eeee> i mean /boot partition
[19:51] <Ben64> Guest47119: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep -i wine" "dpkg -l | grep -i playon" "sudo apt-get update" "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and "aptitude why-not wine"
[19:51] <metaspike> what of it?   /usr/share is just "shared user resources".... i only remove things outside of $HOME (eg ~/*) if its in /opt/ or i know what it is ;)
[19:51] <lickalott> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[19:51] <lickalott> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[19:51] <Lunario> yes, I understood that. And from that live cd (as I cannot boot into the installed ubuntu) I cd into the installed ubuntu distro?
[19:51] <lickalott> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:51] <lickalott> libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty: Depends: libglapi-mesa-lts-trusty (= 10.1.3-0ubuntu0.1~precise1) but 10.1.3-0ubuntu0.1~precise1 is to be installed
[19:51] <lickalott>                             Depends: libx11-6 (>= 2:<IP_ADDRESS>) but 2:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2.2 is to be installed
[19:51] <lickalott>                             Depends: libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1) but 1:1.1.3-2build1 is to be installed
[19:51] <lickalott> xserver-xorg-lts-trusty: Depends: xserver-xorg-core-lts-trusty (>= 2:1.11) but 2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2~precise1 is to be installed
[19:51] <lickalott> those are the details of the error message
[19:51] <Guest47119> Ben64: I'll be back with that ASAP
[19:51] <acovrig> am I understanding this right: if I use single display desktop (multi-desktop) does that mean I would have different ‘display managers’ on each physical display?
[19:52] <acovrig> oops ‘display manager’ -> ‘window manager’
[19:52] <OerHeks> lickalott, do you mix trusty and precise?
[19:52] <eeee> Lunario: mount the /boot partition, to lets say /mnt/boot, and modify the commands accordingly
[19:52] <lickalott> i'm still on 12.04 (only)
[19:53] <OerHeks> lickalott, undo those trusty repos
[19:53] <lickalott> haven't accomplished any upgrades yet.
[19:53] <Ben64> OerHeks: those are not trusty repos
[19:53] <Lunario> how do I do that?
[19:54] <Ben64> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[19:56] <eeee> Lunario: well, you could type lsblk, see which is the /boot partition if you know the size, or maybe sudo parted -l, (it should be the fat32 partition), then assuming it is /dev/sda1 , you would run mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, then modify the /boot/efi/EFI in the commands to just /mnt/EFI
[19:56] <lickalott> so...don't do anything just continue to update and upgrade?
[19:56] <Guest47119> Ben64: Just before I started this set of commands, I did a rm -r command in .PlayOnLinux
[19:56] <Lunario> Ok, will try that in two mins. Thank you :)
[19:57] <lickalott> Ben64, am i reading that correctly?  my HWE will be supported throughout the life of 12.04 and there is nothing I need to do?
[19:58] <eeee> you're welcome
[19:59] <eeee> Lunario: if grub doesn't load up, then you'll need to run this command:
[19:59] <Lunario> one more question, eeee: Does the newly copied grubx64.efi automatically recognise there's also Windows 8 isntalled on my hdd, so that I can dual-boot?
[19:59] <eeee> sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[19:59] <eeee> it will reverse what we did
[20:00] <eeee> Lunario: well, when grub loaded up, was there a windows entry?
[20:00] <Lunario> yes
[20:00] <modest_> Ronan_m: Your public key has to be appended to authorized_keys (maybe this can change, but all public keys authorized must go into a single file). Typically, your public key has an indicator as to who the key belongs, so you can identify multiple keys in authorize_keys.
[20:01] <rafaht> Hi! Someone can help me with my problem? I have a DHCP server and it's sets the IP for the users in my network. But I use the SARG reports and the reports are write IP by IP. I can't know who is who with the IP only, to analyze better the data. Have a tool when I can see who is the computer with that IP? I have a MAC address list when I know who is who with the MAC listed. And yes, I can fix the IPs for the only MAC, but at this time I
[20:01] <rafaht> I are using Ubuntu Server :)
[20:02] <Guest47119> Ben64: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7832174/ ... I'm going to walk the dog for maybe 5 minutes, ok?
[20:03] <Guest47119> Ben64: I'm not going away, but in 5 minutes, I'll be back, promised ....
[20:03] <Guest47119> Ben64: Besides, I sent a lot of stuff to read ...
[20:04] <eeee_> Lunario: still here? i got d/c
[20:05] <rafaht> In the future, I'll fix the IP address for same MAC I have at my DHCP server, but at this moment, I can't make this.
[20:05] <modest_> Ronan_m: my assumption is you want to easily distinguish which key is whos. Having separate .pubs would make this easier to administer. See: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LGNET/149/misc/lg/multiple_authorized_keys.html
[20:05] <metaspike> rafaht, its called dns
[20:06] <Lunario> yes, currently doing what you told me to do :)
[20:06] <Lunario> will report in some mins if it worked out
[20:06] <rafaht> metaspike: can u explain more please? I don't understand.
[20:06] <walterbit> hi all
[20:06] <walterbit> hi TJ-
[20:06] <rafaht> metaspike: I have the DHCP server associated with a AD server...
[20:07] <TJ-> walterbit: Hi
[20:08] <Lunario> eeee: the /EFI/ubuntu folder has no bootx64.efi in it
[20:08] <Lunario> Actually theres nothing in it
[20:08] <metaspike> rafaht, if you want the name of a host, all you need is it's ip number and the command "host"
[20:08] <eeee_> there should be a grubx64.efi, shimx64.efi
[20:09] <Lunario> nope, nothing
[20:09] <andrej> How do I find out whether a file from a package is considered a config file
[20:09] <metaspike> so... host <IP_ADDRESS>   etc... and you get all  their host names, which are registered with dns
[20:10] <eeee_> try to mount the main filesystem in /mnt
[20:10] <metaspike> if you want to identify computers with names, use the Domain Name Service! it's what it was made for:)
[20:10] <metaspike> or, what it can be used for...
[20:10] <Lunario> You mean the ext4 system on which ubuntu is installed?
[20:11] <eeee_> Lunario: run sudo umount /dev/sd(whatever number you got for /boot).
[20:11] <walterbit> TJ-: did you resolve the walktest thing?
[20:11] <eeee_> Lunario: yes, mount it to /mnt
[20:11] <Lunario> ok
[20:11] <metaspike> or dont whatever im tired... good luck lads
[20:11] <eeee_> then mount /boot again, to /mnt/boot/efi
[20:12] <Lunario> umount /dev/sda7 gives me: /dev/sda7 not mounted
[20:12] <Lunario> ok
[20:13] <Lunario> You mean mount to /mnt/efi/boot? because /mnt/boot/efi doesnt exist
[20:14] <eeee_> try /mnt/boot
[20:14] <Lunario> k
[20:14] <Lunario> says mount point /mnt/boot does not exist
[20:14] <Guest47119> Ben64: I'm back.  Did you learn anything from my pastebin?
[20:15] <eeee_> Lunario: run ls /mnt
[20:15] <rolfy> greets
[20:15] <Lunario> that gives me: EFI (and some FSCK00000.REC files up to FSCK00004.REC)
[20:17] <rafaht> aff
[20:17] <eeee_> Lunario: it should contain your ubuntu installation
[20:17] <rafaht> metaspike is leave :/
[20:17] <rafaht> I think the DNS from computers are defined by AD server
[20:17] <rafaht> :S
[20:17] <rafaht> but I don't know
[20:17] <Lunario> EFI does contain a folder called "ubuntu"
[20:18] <TJ-> walterbit: The source is out-of-date... since OpenGL 3.2 it cannot call "cgGetString(GL_EXTENSION)", but must call "cgGetStringi(GET_EXTENSION)", but it doesn't support newer OpenGL versions
[20:18] <noiano> hi. I've switched to gnome 3 on ubuntu 14.04. When I minimize an app it looks like it disappears, there's no app drawer like in 12.04 (using gnome) .. where are the minimized apps? :)
[20:18] <Lunario> but there's nothing in that folder "ubuntu". Should I try mount /dev/sda7 to that folder perhaps?
[20:19] <walterbit> TJ-: ok so nothing to do
[20:19] <eeee_> when you type lsblk | grep /mnt , what do you get ?
[20:19] <TJ-> walterbit: unless walktest is updated to support newer OpenGL, no
[20:20] <Lunario> I get sda2:   8:2    0    300M    0  part  /mnt
[20:20] <Lunario> while "/mnt" is in red letters
[20:20] <walterbit> TJ-: ok. thnx for your help, i going to read about other open source game engines until they update
[20:20] <Guest47119> Anyone wanna tell me what this means .... -rw-rw-r-- 1 steve steve 489 Jul 20 00:53 wine
[20:20] <eeee_> ok that's your /boot, it's 300M
[20:20] <Slart> noiano: click on the "Activites" thing on the left.. running apps will have a different shortcut.. or just use alt+tab
[20:20] <eeee_> type umount /dev/sda2
[20:21] <noiano> Slart: I know the alt-tab thing but minimized app do not appear there
[20:21] <Lunario> says "device is busy"
[20:21] <Slart> noiano: hmm.. they do on my system... don't think I've installed anything special for that.. sure the app is still running?
[20:22] <noiano> Slart spotify is there, trust me it's playing :D
[20:22] <noiano> Slart: is like "minimized to tray"
[20:22] <eeee_> Lunario: is there a /Boot in /mnt/EFI ? with bootx64.efi in it ?
[20:22] <Slart> noiano: if you put the mouse cursor on the bottom of the screen and move it even further down.. do you get a task tray?
[20:23] <noiano> Slart: no, I get nothing
[20:23] <Lunario> yes there is
[20:25] <Slart> noiano: try pressing Super+M  .. it might be differnt on your system but super is mapped to the left windows key on my computer
[20:25] <Guest47119> Ben64: Did you see my pastebin?
[20:25] <noiano> Slart: found them
[20:26] <noiano> Slart: wth I need to do this thing every time?!?!?!
[20:26] <Slart> noiano: that's the same thing pulling the mouse down should show.. not sure why that didn't work for you
[20:26] <_2_selena> hey
[20:27] <Slart> noiano: regular windows show up in alt+tab.. it might be that spotify decides to not keep it's main window open and just minimize to the tray.. I know deluge does the same thing for me
[20:27] <eeee_> Lunario: try to restart the live cd
[20:27] <eeee_> im going to restart too
[20:27] <Lunario> ok
[20:28] <mithran>  init: plymouth-upstart-bridge respawning too fast, stopped
[20:28] <noiano> Slart: I get that but the winKey+m to get to the tray is super annoying
[20:29] <Slart> noiano: not to sound old and grumpy but that seems to follow the gnome design documents.. I'm starting to think they are aiming for "super annoying" =/
[20:29] <Guest47119> Here's my problem ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7832174/
[20:29] <noiano> Slart: well that's just stupid :)
[20:30] <noiano> Slart: older gnome version worked as you would expect
[20:31] <Slart> noiano: indeed.. you can look at some of the extensions that are available as well.. there are at least a couple of taskbar addons
[20:31] <mithran> Guest47119:  the answer is with ur prolem there  read the last line
[20:31] <kasper> Hello, I'm looking for some help with remote access to ubuntu
[20:31] <noiano> Slart: I will
[20:31] <msx> kasper: shoot
[20:31] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[20:32] <Guest47119> mithran: I've tried....
[20:32] <kasper> I'm trying to access ubuntu from my windows machine using tightvnc viewer but I always get the error that the security types are not supported
[20:32] <mithran> Guest47119:  hmmmmm let me check it
[20:33] <Guest47119> mithran: I'm trying it again
[20:33] <eeee> Lunario: run sudo parted -l , and get the ext4 partition's number
[20:33] <eeee> make sure it's the main installation one
[20:33] <kasper> msx any idea?
[20:34] <Lunario> k
[20:34] <Lunario> got it, its 7
[20:34] <Joel> 13.10 - I've installed the latest libssl/openssl, I'm still showing as volunerable to heartbleed, thoughts
[20:35] <eeee> Lunario: try sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[20:35] <mithran> Guest47119: please purge the wine
[20:35] <Lunario> done
[20:35] <eeee> type ls /mnt/boot
[20:35] <eeee> what's in there?
[20:35] <Guest47119> mithran: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7832324/  (I put the answer to aptitude at the beginning of this pastebin
[20:35] <Lunario> various files and two folders (efi and grub)
[20:35] <eeee> ok
[20:35] <Guest47119> mithran: You have a precise command?
[20:36] <eeee> type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[20:36] <kasper> anyone good with remote connections?
[20:36] <msx> kasper: sorry, i was attending some customers. I never accessed via VNC, you must likely need to enable the VNC server in ubuntu first
[20:36] <mithran> please help me to improve boot speed  init: plymouth-upstart-bridge respawning too fast, stopped
[20:36] <kasper> I did that msx
[20:36] <Lunario> done
[20:36] <lisak> hey, I have to choose between nvidia geforce and quadro, which one should I go with for a laptop workstation
[20:36] <eeee> Lunario: type ls /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[20:36] <msx> kasper: on the other hand i wouldn't recommend you running VNC, the protocl sucks, I would try x2Go instead!
[20:37] <kasper> I need to access from a windows pc
[20:37] <mithran> Guest47119: purge wine
[20:37] <Guest47119> mithran: How do I purge wine?  I think someone had given me a command to purge wine - unsuccessful
[20:37] <Lunario> there's nothing in there
[20:37] <msx> kasper: no prob with that, x2Go is a multi-platform client and server solution, similar than VNC but better
[20:37] <mithran> Guest47119: use the same command and a -f
[20:37] <Guest47119> mithran: I am told that the command doesn't exist
[20:37] <eeee> Lunario: that's weird, let me see online if i can find something
[20:37] <kasper> Can I use it on smarthphones as well? Android, iOS...
[20:38] <lisak> I used to heard that the main thing is to avoid quadro cards on linux, is it correct ?
[20:38] <Lunario> alright, I'll be waiting here :) thanks for your help so far already
[20:38] <eeee> you're welcome
[20:38] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo apt-get -f insta
[20:38] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:39] <eps> How long is adobe-flashplugin <IP_ADDRESS>4 going to languish in -proposed? It's been something like 12 days now (that's about a week and a half longer than usual), and fixes for critical security vulnerabilities are not getting out to people who update from the Canonical partner repository.
[20:39] <Lunario> fyi, I did some research on the whole grub not being shown too, and read about Windows 8.1 overwriting other boot devices quite often... maybe that has to do with it
[20:39] <mithran> Guest47119: did u tried it?
[20:39] <Guest47119> mithran: Same wine installation problem - didn't work
[20:39] <mithran> ok
[20:40] <mithran> sudo apt-get purge wine
[20:40] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo apt-get purge wine
[20:40] <msx> kasper: what's exactly the error you are getting?
[20:41] <mithran> please help me to improve boot speed  init: plymouth-upstart-bridge respawning too fast, stopped
[20:41] <sheap> could someone help with this preseed for trusty? http://paste.fedoraproject.org/119646/14059752/
[20:41] <Guest47119> mithran: can I get rid of /usr/share/ .... ?  /usr/lib/ ...  ?
[20:41] <kasper> msx no security types supported. Sever sent security types but we do not support any of their
[20:42] <Guest47119> mithran: Same problems with wine1.6
[20:42] <msx> what about using other VNC client? Still, I highly recommend you X2Go
[20:42] <kasper> Ive tried it with uvnc as well
[20:42] <msx> and forget about VNC for ever
[20:42] <kasper> its not the viewer that is the problem, it must be some setting in ubuntu
[20:43] <kasper> I'm using the pre installed package
[20:43] <mithran> Guest47119: can u find the application in software  center
[20:43] <msx> I'm not on ubuntu right nowm can't check any of the server settings
[20:43] <Guest47119> mithran: The application ... you mean wine?
[20:43] <kasper> msx: why is X2Go better?
[20:43] <mithran> Guest47119: ya
[20:44] <msx> kasper: if you still want to use a VNC try setting up x11vnc on ubuntu, it's dead easy
[20:44] <Guest47119> mithran: I try to get rid of wine and wine1.6 through Synaptic - never works
[20:44] <msx> kasper: far better protocol, blazing fast compared to VNC, supports strong authentixcation, use of ssh and so on
[20:44] <msx> kasper: check it on their website and ubuntu wiki
[20:45] <kasper> I see, I've just been messing with this vnc for some time I'm exhausted just want something easy :)
[20:45] <eeee> Lunario: i think you should reinstall grub and switch the files, maybe it'll work
[20:45] <mithran> Guest47119:  sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:45] <msx> absolutely. kasper: install the server on ubuntu and it is automatically up and running waiting for conections
[20:45] <Lunario> Can I just reinstall it from the live cd?
[20:46] <msx> *connections
[20:46] <Guest47119> mithran: Done, done, and redone.
[20:46] <eeee> yeah, you can chroot the installation
[20:46] <msx> kasper: then download and install the client on windows and that's it
[20:46] <Lunario> How does that work?
[20:46] <Guest47119> mithran: software center only shows Wine Loader as being checked off as installed
[20:46] <kasper> msx can i connect using android or ios as well?
[20:46] <msx> kasper: you configure the net speed, the quality of the image, etc.
[20:46] <msx> kasper: mmm, i don't know if they already have those clients ready
[20:47] <eeee> Lunario: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[20:47] <mithran> Guest47119: try to reinstall or uninstall from there
[20:47] <kasper> msx: ok installing now
[20:48] <msx> kasper: it'sa beauty and fairly straight to setup. Later when you have time try to connect using VNC and the differences will speak for themselves :P
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Guest47119: As you have run a remove and purge on wine1.6 // what now returns -> sudo find / -name wine1.6 <- . Will take a long time to search the file system , patience.
[20:48] <Guest47119> mithran: From software center?  Just tried - no success. Tried several times through Synaptic to a removal, a complete removal, and a reinstallation - never worked
[20:49] <Guest47119> Bashing-om: I will look ... I had already started a while ago
[20:49] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo nautilus
[20:50] <mithran> Guest47119:
[20:50] <Guest47119> Bashing-om: Incomplete, but here's what I have for find wine and find wine1.6 ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7832398/
[20:50] <Lunario> alright, done, eeee
[20:50] <Guest47119> mithran: sudo nautilus?
[20:50] <Lunario> now reboot?
[20:51] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo nautilus
[20:51] <eeee> Lunario: no, sudo chroot /mnt
[20:51] <Lunario> done
[20:51] <mithran> Guest47119: opened
[20:51] <eeee> ok now to reinstall grub
[20:51] <Guest47119> mithran: It is almost opened
[20:52] <mithran> go to etc
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Guest47119: : ) , Then compare -> sudo dpkg --list | grep wine , cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/wine1.6.list <- (if that file still exist ) .
[20:52] <mithran> dpkg
[20:52] <eeee> Lunario: sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[20:52] <mithran> Guest47119: etc
[20:52] <mithran> Guest47119: dpkg
[20:52] <mithran> Guest47119: dpkg.cfg.d
[20:53] <mithran> Guest47119: is there is the wine
[20:53] <Guest47119> mithran: It takes ages to open up completely ...
[20:53] <Lunario> that gives me: error: cannot open /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi: Input/Output error.
[20:54] <eeee> do you have internet connection ?
[20:54] <Lunario> (just checked if shimx64.efi exists... it doesnt
[20:54] <Lunario> oh, nope
[20:54] <YamakasY> which repo's do I need to add for netinstall on my local mirror ?
[20:54] <Lunario> but I can connect to my wlan
[20:54] <Guest47119> mithran: In a terminal? (dpkg.cfg.d)
[20:54] <eeee> ok cool, maybe if you install grub from the repo it'll install everything
[20:54] <Guest47119> Bashing-om: I have so many suggestions, that I'm doing what I can as fast as I can
[20:55] <Lunario> ok, so apt-get install grub?
[20:55] <kasper> how do I configure x2go?
[20:55] <mithran> Guest47119: go through the nautilus window
[20:55] <infinity_> where can i find this package ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/php5-cli/download
[20:55] <infinity_> its listed as available but gone from everywhere i can see.
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Guest47119: Understnadable .. I am just now arriving to the party .. what is your end goal here in respect to Wine ?
[20:57] <eeee> Lunario: i guess sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[20:58] <giugza66> help me please , what is the command "ip route" equal in windows prompt ????
[20:58] <Guest47119> Bashing-om: Wine and / or Wine1.6 or both are PARTIALLY installed.  Broken dependencies. I can not remove or install anything because of the wine or wine1.6 problem
[20:58] <nintendork> (Lubuntu) How do I write files to a network attached Seagate Central drive? I can access it from "Go" > "Network Drives", but when I try to create a file on it, nothing happens.
[20:58] <Lunario> yeah, just tried apt-get install grub and it says that it needs t remove grub-efi-amd64 and some others for that, which would be wrong I guess. So I'll try yours
[20:58] <kasper> msx: how do I configure x2GO?
[20:58] <mithran> Guest47119: did u find it
[20:58] <Guest47119> Bashing-om: If wine can be totally and correctly installed, I'm not against that.  But ...
[20:58] <Lunario> "grub-efi-amd64 is already the newest version"
[20:59] <Guest47119> mithran: Nautilus is still loading ... I see nothing really
[20:59] <eeee> try apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Guest47119: Yeah, I see that .. but .. are you wanting to (re-)install Wine1.6 to be functional .. or completely remove it from the system ( and no NetFlix then either ) .
[21:00] <mithran> Guest47119: what programes are running now i your system now
[21:00] <giugza66> ??
[21:00] <msx> kasper: on the client side you need to create anew account
[21:00] <Lunario> same error as before (Input/Output error)
[21:00] <msx> kasper: i would recommend you run it vanilla
[21:01] <Guest47119> mithran: I have 4 terminals ... find wine x2, nautilus that is trying to open, and kvirc
[21:01] <mithran> Guest47119: close all othe programes except nautilus
[21:01] <nintendork> Never mind. I can do it from terminal when I right click the folder and click "Open in Terminal". Strange that the file manager can't do that.
[21:01] <msx> kasper: oh, silly me, i almost forgot, check you have running the ssh server on your ubuntu box
[21:01] <msx> kasper: sudo apt install openssh-server
[21:01] <kasper> msx: ok
[21:02] <kasper> ok and then what?
[21:02] <eeee> Lunario: i'm searching my pc for alternate locations (if any)
[21:02] <msx> go to the client and create a connection
[21:02] <giugza66> help me please , what is the command "ip route" equal in windows prompt ? mind if you help me  please ??
[21:02] <eeee> also googling
[21:02] <Lunario> alright
[21:02] <msx> kasper: fill in the ip of your ubuntu, the user name, etc.
[21:02] <kasper> msx: it asks me for a login and ssh port, where do i get this info?
[21:02] <mithran> Guest47119:  Brother am leaving now the time is 2:30 am
[21:02] <Lunario> me too
[21:02] <Guest47119> mithran: I re-started Nautilus through a terminal and I have Kvirc ... and Nautilus still hangs
[21:03] <aljosa> yesterday i connected w/o problems to wifi, today my wifi is not listed but there is a bunch of others. iwlist scan can't find it but my android phone finds it and connects to it w/o problems. any ideas?
[21:03] <msx> kasper: session name is completely arbitrary, just for your own reference
[21:03] <Guest47119> mithran: So it's later for you than me.  It's 11pm where I am
[21:03] <mithran> Guest47119: please close them also
[21:03] <mithran> Guest47119:  am in INDIA
[21:04] <giugza66> ??????
[21:04] <msx> kasper: on ssh port keep 22
[21:04] <kasper> msx: it asks me for a passkey
[21:04] <kasper> msx: its not the same as my linux passkey apperently
[21:04] <Guest47119> mithran: Them?    Nautilus would help me find dpkg.cfg.d
[21:04] <mithran> Guest47119: open a new terminal and type sudo nautilus
[21:05] <mithran> Guest47119: ok dont close it
[21:05] <giugza66> #kali-linux
[21:05] <kasper> it says enter passphrase to decrypt a key
[21:05] <mithran> Guest47119: close the current terminal and type as above
[21:06] <eeee> Lunario: there's also boot-repair, it's an option
[21:06] <mithran> Guest47119: go to /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d
[21:06] <Lunario> eeee: just read through this thread (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1090829).
[21:06] <mithran> Guest47119: are u there
[21:06] <mithran> ?
[21:06] <Guest47119> mithran: In /home/"me", I can't see anything.  In a sub folder, I can
[21:06] <Lunario> dmesg shows a corrupted Fat-fs (sda2) directory
[21:07] <mithran> Guest47119: ur disks are there
[21:07] <Lunario> I already tried installing boot-repair but it gives me an error related to the amd64-version (doesn't exist)
[21:07] <mithran> Guest47119: computer named on
[21:07] <Lunario> And the 64 bit live usb disc I created via unetbootin doesnt boot
[21:07] <mithran> Guest47119: or may be file system
[21:08] <mithran> Guest47119: on the left side the device category there is the computer
[21:08] <mithran> Guest47119: then go to etc
[21:09] <mithran> Guest47119: can u find it
[21:09] <Guest47119> mithran: I'm doing my best, but it hangs
[21:09] <mithran> Guest47119: hmm
[21:09] <Guest47119> mithran: That's what I've been thinking for the past couple days ...
[21:10] <YamakasY> damn are the netinstall files 6,5GB ?
[21:10] <mithran> Guest47119: ok am looking on it
[21:12] <eeee> Lunario: try maybe sudo apt-get install grub-efi
[21:12] <saxgeek> Is it possible to dd a file in parts? Like interrupt it and come back later?
[21:12] <mithran> Guest47119: hai
[21:13] <Guest47119> mithran: Hai?
[21:13] <saxgeek> I need to back up a 1 TB hard drive to a network attached drive, but "dd"ing it all at once would take too long.
[21:13] <Lunario> same error message as with grub-efi-amd64
[21:13] <graingert> saxgeek: tarsnap? rsync?
[21:14] <eeee> Lunario: try update-grub
[21:14] <graingert> Do you want an image or just the files in the same layout on the filesystem
[21:14] <infinity_> anyone know where i can get this package? the link provided does't work. http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/php5-cli/download
[21:14] <Lunario> seems to have worked :)
[21:14] <saxgeek> I need an image.
[21:15] <eeee> i don't know if it copies anything other than the grub.cfg though
[21:15] <Lunario> says "Found ... (several linux(initrd images) and then: Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration - done
[21:15] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo rm /usr/bin/wine64-preloade
[21:15] <eeee> hmm
[21:15] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo rm /usr/bin/wine64-preloader
[21:15] <eeee> Lunario: ls /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[21:15] <Lunario> nothing in there
[21:15] <Lunario> meh
[21:17] <Guest47119> mithran: done
[21:17] <mithran> Guest47119: sudo rm /usr/bin/wine64
[21:18] <Guest47119> mithran: done
[21:19] <mithran> Guest47119:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:19] <Guest47119> mithran: Is anything found for wine that starts either /usr/share  ... /usr/bin  ... or /usr/lib good to rm?
[21:20] <mithran> Guest47119: ya
[21:20] <mithran> no problem
[21:20] <mithran> Guest47119: no problem
[21:20] <mithran> Guest47119: hello
[21:21] <Guest47119> mithran: still sticks
[21:21] <mithran> Guest47119: hmmmmmm
[21:21] <Guest47119> Gonna do the find wine and find wine1.6 and just get rid of everything wine
[21:22] <mithran> Guest47119:  cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:22] <mithran> Guest47119: then ls
[21:23] <eeee> Lunario: i just checked your website, why don't you try the workaround ?
[21:23] <mithran> Guest47119: can u fine that deb file
[21:24] <Guest47119> mithran: Got lots of wine things there
[21:24] <eeee> Lunario: nevermind
[21:24] <Guest47119> mithran: in blue, "partial" and, in red, several wine .... deb
[21:25] <Lunario> would destroy the Windows boot files according to the answer below that workaround
[21:25] <mithran> Guest47119: remove every  thing using rm command
[21:25] <Guest47119> mithran: not just the wine stuff?
[21:25] <Lunario> Maybe its best if I reinstall ubuntu?
[21:26] <mithran> guest every partial and wine stuffs
[21:26] <mithran> Guest47119: every partial and wine stuffs
[21:26] <Lunario> but then the question would be how to prevent that the same thing happens again (Windows overwriting ubuntu boot files/grub)
[21:27] <eeee> Lunario: maybe if you switch the files windows will never know
[21:27] <mithran> Guest47119:  i have to go to sleep the time is 3am now
[21:27] <Guest47119> mithran: thx
[21:28] <rohan> why is the chromium-browser package still at 34.x whereas google chrome stable is now 36.x?
[21:28] <mithran> Guest47119:  is alll are removed
[21:28] <Lunario> switch the files like you suggested at the very beginning? (
[21:28] <mithran> Guest47119: make it faster
[21:28] <Guest47119> mithran: all wine and partial
[21:28] <mithran> Guest47119: yes
[21:28] <mithran> Guest47119: remove
[21:29] <Guest47119> mithran: Yes
[21:29] <Guest47119> I'm going to reboot and then the update and the upgrade comma,d
[21:30] <Guest47119> thx for evertyhing
[21:30] <Guest47119> bye
[21:30] <agent_white> Is the right way to finish an email using vim in mutt, to do a ":wq" and then send?
[21:30] <mithran> Guest47119:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:30] <RedHatter> I just changed my username and home dir with usermod, but now when I try to execute a file in my home dir from the shell it says no such file even though I can see it with ls. What did I do?
[21:31] <trism> rohan: tracking bug 1331375
[21:31] <MaximumTimbo> Hello. I have a trip coming up and I would like to play a game that runs wine while i'm on the plane. I have both Unity and XFCE installed and I would like to know what I can do to optimize the battery life on my laptop while I'm traveling. Maybe there is an even lighter weight UI I have over looked. Or maybe there are some optimizations I don't know about. Suggestions?
[21:31] <rohan> trism: neat, thanks!
[21:31] <agent_white> RedHatter: What commands did you run?
[21:31] <eeee> Lunario: do you want me to upload my grubx64.efi file ?
[21:32] <eeee> it seems that maybe the partition isn't corrupt, just that grubx64.efi is the problem?
[21:32] <Lunario> that would be great, but would it be applicable to my computer?
[21:33] <agent_white> RedHatter: You should've changed your homedirectory AND moved the contents... aka `usermod -md /my/new/home username` -- the "m" flag being the important part.
[21:33] <eeee> i guess, i think it only loads stuff, like the grub.cfg which you need for your pc
[21:33] <studmuf> does anyone know if there is a transmission-daemon channel on the freenode server?
[21:33] <RedHatter> usermod -l old new && usermod -m -d /home/old new
[21:33] <Lunario> ok, then perhaps we should try it
[21:33] <agent_white> RedHatter: That first command should've been reversed? It should be `usermod -l newname oldname`
[21:34] <agent_white> And the second
[21:34] <agent_white> `usermod -md /my/new/home newusername`
[21:34] <RedHatter> Yeah it was sorry typo
[21:34] <agent_white> erm
[21:35] <agent_white> RedHatter: Ah alrighty
[21:35] <agent_white> RedHatter: If you can't execute the file, can you open it?
[21:35] <eeee> Lunario: eeee.bshellz.net/grubx64.efi
[21:36] <Nickd55345353> hello
[21:36] <Lunario> great, thank you :)
[21:36] <Nickd55345353> is amarok good?
[21:36] <Nickd55345353> or audacious is better?
[21:36] <Lunario> now cp that into /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu?
[21:37] <eeee> yeah, also eeee.bshellz.net/shimx64.efi
[21:38] <eeee> that's the shim one
[21:38] <Lunario> k
[21:39] <eeee> try to apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64
[21:39] <Panacea> !bark
[21:40] <RedHatter> agent_white its a binary file how do I open it?
[21:40] <Ziko> Nickd55345353: how about clementine?
[21:40] <agent_white> RedHatter: Well how are you executing it?  In the console?
[21:41] <Lunario> when trying to copy the files to /mnt/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu I get input/output error again
[21:41] <Nickd55345353> clementine?
[21:41] <Ziko> yap
[21:41] <RedHatter> From the terminal ./file
[21:41] <eeee> Lunario: wait, while copying the files, or reinstalling grub?
[21:42] <Lunario> while copying
[21:42] <eeee> maybe sudo cp ?
[21:42] <eeee> i have no idea..
[21:42] <Lunario> I did sudo
[21:42] <Lunario> yeah, it's really strange
[21:42] <Lunario> maybe the efi fat32 partition is damaged?
[21:43] <Lunario> dmesg says Fat-fs (sda2): Corrupted directory (i_pos 131208)
[21:43] <agent_white> RedHatter: Try to execute it by typing the full path instead
[21:43] <agent_white> RedHatter: `/home/username/binary`
[21:44] <RedHatter> agent_white hmm... ls -l shows new as the owner but old as the group
[21:44] <eeee> Lunario: try this sudo dosfsck -r /dev/sda2
[21:45] <RedHatter> Full path does not work
[21:45] <Lunario> 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt. 1) Remove dirty bit  2) No action
[21:46] <Lunario> Just thinking... maybe it has to do with Secure Boot being enabled?
[21:46] <eeee> could be
[21:46] <Lunario> http://askubuntu.com/questions/319419/ubuntu-13-04-does-not-work-after-windows8-update
[21:46] <eeee> it's up to you whether to let dosfsck fix it or not
[21:46] <Lunario> just reading this thread, that guy seems to have the same problem I do
[21:47] <eeee> i don't know if it might fsck the windows efi :-)
[21:48] <Lunario> I won't risk that. Now (after choosing "No Action" it says: /EFI/ubuntu - Start does point to root directory. Deleting dir. Perform changes ?y/n
[21:49] <eeee> i'd just answer no
[21:49] <eeee> back things up first
[21:49] <dlam> is there a way to see when a file or folders ownership last changed?
[21:50] <Lunario> Is there a terminal command to easily back up sda2?
[21:50] <Lunario> I never backed up anything via the command line, only with GUI programs so far
[21:50] <qwerqewqrqrqewr> Lunario:  use dd
[21:51] <agent_white> RedHatter: What is the error it gives?
[21:52] <agent_white> RedHatter: And what's the groupname?
[21:52] <RedHatter> On such file or directory: ./file
[21:52] <eeee> Lunario: yeah i think dd does it
[21:53] <agent_white> RedHatter: Copy and paste the erro in here, verbatim :)
[21:53] <RedHatter> Group name according to L's is the old username
[21:53] <agent_white> s/erro/error
[21:53] <Lunario> isn't that for erasing and reformatting disks? I have only used it for that so far
[21:53] <agent_white> RedHatter: It shouldn't matter... but... `chgrp newusername filename`
[21:53] <iszak> Lunario: can also use it to copy an image to a device or to clone it
[21:53] <agent_white> prolly need to run that as sudo.
[21:54] <eeee> Lunario: i think it copies raw images of the hard disk too
[21:54] <Lunario> alright
[21:54] <iszak> eeee: yep
[21:54] <agent_white> RedHatter: And also... `groupmod -n newname oldname`
[21:55] <RedHatter> chgrp: invalid group: 'new'
[21:56] <agent_white> RedHatter: Is your new name "new" ?
[21:56] <agent_white> That's an odd username...
[21:56] <Lunario> currently trying to find the right command for backupping my dev/sda2... probably dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb ?
[21:57] <Lunario> sdb being an external usb key
[21:57] <RedHatter> It now displays the correct group but still will not execute
[21:57] <iszak> RedHatter: add the execution bit
[21:57] <agent_white> RedHatter: "chmod u+x filename"
[21:57] <iszak> boom
[21:57] <agent_white> RedHatter: And remember, don't just say "still won't execute". We need the EXACT error it says.
[21:57] <agent_white> Otherwise it dun help us to help you.
[21:59] <RedHatter> Already had x and chmod didn't help. Same error as before zsh: no such file or directory: ./adb
[22:00] <iszak> RedHatter: is "adb" in the directory? tyoe "which adb"
[22:00] <iszak> what does it return? is it in your current directory or in one of the many PATH variables?
[22:01] <RedHatter> It is ls ./adb works which ./adb outputs ./adb
[22:02] <agent_white> Lunario: Prolly best to make a backup image instead, then just move that img to your usb. `dd if=/dev/sda2 of=~/sda2backup.img`
[22:03] <iszak> RedHatter: what's the permissions on the file? what's your user? (type whoami), what groups are you? (type groups $(whoami))
[22:03] <agent_white> iszak: Just a heads up, he did "change his username and home directory"... if you didn't see before :P
[22:03] <iszak> agent_white: I didn't
[22:04] <iszak> thanks
[22:04] <agent_white> iszak: Aye. I checked to see if he did it the right way... but he didn't directory copy-pasta his command to me.
[22:04] <agent_white> So could be a fsckup on that part.
[22:04] <Lunario> yeah, just did that
[22:04] <Lunario> :)
[22:04] <agent_white> Lunario: Good deal :D
[22:07] <RedHatter> -rwxr-xr-x timothy timothy ADM CDROM sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[22:08] <agent_white> ADM is caps?
[22:08] <Lunario> What is your suggestion to do next?
[22:09] <agent_white> Lunario: Drag-and-drop that .img file to your usb!
[22:09] <agent_white> :)
[22:09] <iszak> RedHatter: which part is your "whoami" ?
[22:11] <RedHatter> whoami timothy and no not in caps, that was just my stupid auto complete
[22:11] <agent_white> RedHatter: Again... please just copy-paste the command.
[22:11] <agent_white> And the error.
[22:12] <agent_white> Don't hand-type it. -- Correct spelling/capitalization is crucial, and a trivial fix if that's the issue.
[22:12] <RedHatter> Can't computer with the error does not have internet
[22:13] <Lunario> now that's weird - i cp'd the iso to my USB, which turned the name of my USB drive into "SYSTEM", but there is no sda2backup.img file in it.
[22:14] <A1R_> Hi, I'm trying to install irssi on my lubuntu machine, but when I "sudo apt-get install irssi...etc" it shows "E: unable to locate package ____"
[22:16] <agent_white> RedHatter: Oh boy.  Well, then try and be as precise as you can.
[22:17] <RedHatter> Will do, any more things to try?
[22:18] <agent_white> RedHatter: Verify that you did everything correctly for changing the username/home directory, logged out and back in after doing so... etc.
[22:18] <agent_white> RedHatter: Make sure you followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username
[22:19] <Lunario> Oh wait, actually I just plugged it in again, on another computer, and there it is - a complete image of the sda2 partiton  on the usb ey :)
[22:19] <agent_white> RedHatter: Woops! Don't follow that guide!
[22:19] <Lunario> *key
[22:20] <agent_white> RedHatter: This instead (It's an Arch Linux guide, but it applies for all distros): https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/change_username
[22:20] <agent_white> "Make certain that you are not logged in as the user whose name you are about to change!"
[22:20] <agent_white> Lunario: \o
[22:21] <Lunario> So if I do the dosfsck again now, and it somehow destroys my Windows boot option, I can just copy the image back to /dev/sda2 and everything will be fine again?
[22:21] <Baribal> Hi. I've made a slideshow with Impress and recorded a voice track with audacity. How can I make a video presentation from that? I've tried just recording it with kazaam, but after less than two minutes, that reproducibly freezes my computer. (Assuming that it's buffers running full or memory running out due to data not being written to disk fast enough, I tried to just record a small area of the screen, which makes kazaam crash.) Any ideas wh
[22:21] <Baribal> at other tools I can use?
[22:22] <Lunario> Also, is it a problem that the sda2 backup on my USB key is not a .img file, but more like an extracted image file? I mean, how do I copy it back to /dev/sda2 in case its needed?
[22:28] <RedHatter> That is exactly what I did. I logged out and dropped to TTY and logged in as root to run the commands
[22:29] <eeee> Lunario: that should work
[22:29] <Lunario> k, will try
[22:29] <eeee> in case it doesn't, do you have a windows 8 recovery usb or cd ?
[22:30] <RedHatter> Hmm the login screen still has the old username
[22:30] <Lunario> there is a recovery partition preinstalled
[22:30] <eeee> you can always recreate the efi partition and use that to make the efi files
[22:30] <Lunario> But I wonder how to boot that if nothing boots at all
[22:30] <eeee> well usually it's booted with a certain key
[22:30] <agent_white> RedHatter: Try to login under each and see what happens.
[22:30] <agent_white> RedHatter: Also see what all is in /home
[22:30] <Lunario> (in fact, there is a Windows recovery partiton and even a Bios Recovery partition
[22:30] <beanee> i reinstalled the system and is now back up and running
[22:32] <RedHatter> There is only the old one and after I login to it whoami says timothy which is the new one old /home is only /home/timothy
[22:33] <eeee> i don't know if you can access the recovery partition anymore, after the partitioning scheme has been modified sometimes they dont boot anymore
[22:33] <Lunario> hmmm..
[22:33] <jcat4> I have an acer c720p, originally running linuc mint that, out of no where, was suddenly unable to connect to any wireless network. I've tried reinstalling multiple distors, but none could connect to wifi either, and all of the installers chrashed, howveer, I was able to boot into xubuntu although the installer crashed, but I still can't connect to wifi. It will see the networks, I'll enter the passphrases, and it will just sit there fo
[22:33] <eeee> Lunario: if i were you, i would boot into windows, and create a recovery usb, and copy the files to the usb or somewhere on the pc, that way you can always fix the efi
[22:34] <eeee> keep the files in a folder somewhere, you can always copy them to a usb and use them anytime
[22:34] <nosound> I have no sound. My motherboard is a Z97 with ALC1150. I've tried the fix here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1321421 but that has zero effect
[22:35] <jkitchen> I downgraded my kernel to 3.8.0-30 (same as what is running on another machine) and it's back again, so it seems it's a kernel issue.
[22:35] <jkitchen> I'll try to track it down
[22:36] <Lunario> hmm yeah, either that (if my PC and Windows 8.1 make it possible to create such a recovery USB), or reinstall Ubuntu and try to find a workaround for the problem. I read somewhere that it is possible to deactivate Windows' "Automatic Boot-Repair" (which allegedly causes the problems for Grub), though I did not yet manage to deactivate it
[22:36] <JordanJ2> Hi all! I'm getting this error while running 'apt-get update' on a Linode VPS running 14.04 http://pastebin.com/4t4R2U4w
[22:37] <JordanJ2> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:37] <eeee> JordanJ2: delete the /var/lib/apt/lists and run it again
[22:38] <eeee> change your webserver too
[22:38] <eeee> it's probably from the server
[22:38] <JordanJ2> How do I change the webserver?
[22:38] <eeee> dash > software and updates
[22:39] <JordanJ2> Via SSH?
[22:39] <eeee> to delete, do mv /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists.old
[22:39] <eeee> then mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists && mkdir /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
[22:39] <JordanJ2> Alright
[22:40] <eeee> i mean the server where you download files from
[22:40] <eeee> yours is mirrors.linode.com
[22:40] <eeee> try the main server
[22:40] <JordanJ2> Right
[22:40] <JordanJ2> What is the main server?
[22:41] <eeee> it's called main server, i get archive.ubuntu.com and extras.ubuntu.com etc.
[22:42] <eeee> JordanJ2: i think it is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:42] <eeee> if you have to change it from the termina;
[22:44] <SamWiseGamgee> How do you change the control set on a chat site?
[22:44] <eeee> JordanJ2: i have http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[22:45] <SamWiseGamgee> there's a really bad PF filter on a chat site that is filtering all intelligence conversation but enabling profanities galore
[22:45] <ponyofdeath> hi, is it possible to pin packages from main with higher priority than universe?
[22:45] <SamWiseGamgee> We need to change the control set to disable the PF filter on that chat site
[22:46] <SamWiseGamgee> Do you know how that can be done to improve the chat conversation?
[22:46] <OerHeks> SamWiseGamgee, there is no such ting
[22:47] <SamWiseGamgee> is there anyway to disable that really annoyhing PF filter.  It's really bad
[22:47] <SamWiseGamgee> every second word we write gets deleted.  Even simple words
[22:47] <ghostnik11> okay so i can't find my bluetooth adapter but when i run the dmesg command in terminal i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7832910/
[22:48] <OerHeks> SamWiseGamgee, maybe /quit
[22:48] <ghostnik11> how can i turn on my bluetooth adapter
[22:48] <Pici> SamWiseGamgee: Does this have anything to do with Ubuntu?
[22:48] <SamWiseGamgee> I don't know, the site uses Flash
[22:49] <eeee> lol
[22:49] <Pici> SamWiseGamgee: So... you want to get help with some unknown app, on some random website?
[22:49] <SamWiseGamgee> this is a really stupid idea
[22:50] <SamWiseGamgee> but at least I gave it a try
[22:51] <OerHeks> ghostnik11, open the bluetooth-app in dash, there are 2 sliders, on/off and visability on/off
[22:52] <ghostnik11> OerHeks, when i go to bluetooth-app it shows that bluetooth is off but its up as on
[22:53] <ghostnik11> OerHeks, visability is grayed out
[22:54] <levo> does anyone know where chrome keeps unfinished (in failure situation) download? i haven't closed the chrome since it failed.
[22:56] <lickalott> Gents, does anyone know of a good/better program for MTP transfers?  I'm using Gmtp and it BLOWS!!  I've tried using the embedded file transfer but it continuously locks up on me.
[22:58] <rap424> Does anyone know why tab-completion doesn't  go into directories? After I did a dist-upgrade whenever I try to tab-complete a directory it completes the name of the directory but leaves a space after like tab-completing a command
[23:00] <eeee> rap424: tab-completion depends on the command your using
[23:00] <rap424> eeee: it does the same thing even is I am using 'ls'
[23:00] <lickalott> rap424, which shell are you using?
[23:01] <rap424> lickalott: bash
[23:01] <rap424> and I am using Terminal
[23:01] <lickalott> is the outcome the same or different when you're using cd?
[23:01] <eeee> rap424: sorry misread your question at the end
[23:02] <lickalott> oh...so did I.
[23:02] <lickalott> I've had that happen too.
[23:02] <rap424> lickalott: 'cd' works correctly
[23:02] <lickalott> i just backspace and muscle through.  Only seems to happen when ls or trying to run a command/script with a long path name.
[23:03] <brunost> does anyone in here have first-hand experience with the dell xps 13 developer edition?
[23:03] <rap424> lickalott: I know there is a fix =) I've had it happen before, but can't remember what I googled
[23:03] <ghostnik11> is their a way to use the windows driver and then have ubuntu look through that driver and install the driver for ubuntu
[23:03] <lickalott> not the answer you probably wanted to hear, but I've never dug into enough
[23:03] <lickalott> did you just upgrade to 14.04?
[23:04] <rap424> lickalott: I will have to do the same until I can find the page I used before
[23:04] <brunost> ghostnik11: what are you looking for a driver for?
[23:04] <rap424> lickalott: I was on 12.04 and did the dist-upgrade
[23:04] <lickalott> im still on 12.04.  I'd be anxious to see what the fix is if/when you find it.
[23:04] <ghostnik11> brunost, b/c i can't get bluetooth to work so i want to know how i can get it to work.  when i run commands it can't show the adapter name
[23:05] <catalase> hi i need some help with group file permissions
[23:05] <lickalott> ask away catalase
[23:05] <catalase> a user created a folder in my home directory, user:user
[23:05] <catalase> i cannot delete it because they own it
[23:05] <rap424> lickalott: I will post anything I find here
[23:05] <catalase> but i am the server administrator and i own the server
[23:06] <catalase> i added myself to their group
[23:06] <catalase> but i still cannot delete the folder
[23:06] <lickalott> server administrator = root?
[23:06] <catalase> i am the server administrator, i have sudo access, root access etc
[23:07] <catalase> i can add myself to group root if i want to
[23:07] <lickalott> did you try su root and try?
[23:07] <lickalott> just throwing it out there.
[23:07] <ghostnik11> brunost, when i run the lspci command it doesn't show the bluetooth adapter
[23:08] <catalase> lickalott, should i not be able to delete their file if they own it and it is in their group, but i am in their group?
[23:08] <catalase> i shouldn't have to sudo for that, or should i?
[23:08] <brunost> ghostnik11: and you have no clue what adapter this is?
[23:08] <eeee> catalase: i think it depends on the permissions of the file itself
[23:08] <pa> why "set as default" for choosing another application to open file types with does not work?
[23:08] <pa> i click it and nothing changes
[23:08] <lickalott> should....yes.  But I've run into the same issue on a Solaris 10 box coming in from ubuntu on ssh and had to physically su to root (actually su -l root) then it worked.
[23:08] <ghostnik11> i think its atheros or broadcom brunost here is my lspci output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7832992/
[23:09] <ghostnik11> brunost, i can go to virtualbox and sign into windows 7 and see what driver it is.  Also my computer originally came with windows 8 so i went on Lenovo website and downloaded the driver.
[23:10] <lickalott> also I've seen it where new users in a group don't get "published" right away (i.e. a restart or command push to update the group is required)
[23:10] <brunost> ghostnik11: you need linux speciffic drivers, but you might know that
[23:11] <akp> hello
[23:11] <ghostnik11> brunost, yeah can you point me in the direction to get them
[23:11] <akp> where can i get an updated version of wireshark that wont crash for ubuntu 14.04?
[23:11] <ghostnik11> brunost, is it possible to look up the actually driver on google for linux
[23:12] <brunost> if you can find out what bluetooth module you have you will also be able to find the driver
[23:13] <ghostnik11> brunost, give me one sec so i can try and find it on google
[23:16] <akurilin> quick question: what's the defualt ubuntu shell for newly created users? Is it fair to assume it's always bash?
[23:17] <brunost> akurilin: as long as you haven't set them to use anything else I believe it should
[23:17] <ghostnik11> can anyone tell me imagebin site because its not working
[23:17] <Nickd55345353> hello
[23:17] <Nickd55345353> some of the software in the software center is out of date
[23:17] <akurilin> brunost: perfect thank you
[23:17] <Nickd55345353> how can idownload manually?
[23:20] <kendrick_> the terminal command for the software centre?
[23:20] <ghostnik11> brunost, here is an image bin of the bluetooth module: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=18477
[23:21] <monfuentes> hi I have a problem whit the fonts in somme program, some body knows something about?
[23:22] <brunost> ghostnik11: you see the problem is that that is some kind of universal driver package for three different modules, google your exact model number or sku number on the case
[23:22] <lickalott> catalase, did you try that?
[23:23] <ghostnik11> brunost, okay one sec bro
[23:25] <Ziko> kendrick_:  software-center
[23:27] <slacko178981> I'm backing up a hard drive with dd. Does piping dd to gzip affect the copy speed in any way?
[23:30] <ghostnik11> brunost, here it is i think: http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=18478
[23:35] <furkan> is there any way to run Xorg Server 1.16 on Ubuntu 14.04? or do we have to wait for 14.10?
[23:36] <ghostnik11> brunost, i am now reading something that is saying i might to add something to the linux firmware for it to work: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath3k
[23:41] <_1_tomy> hola
[23:42] <Lunario> Sooo, I am currently reinstalling Ubuntu after all the trouble with the deleted EFI bootloader. I am currently in the partitioning process, set up an EFI boot partition which the installer advised me to do, but now after creating one for ubuntu, I get the warning: "Two file systems are assigend the same mount point (/boot/efi):SCSI5 partition 10 [the ubuntu bootloader-to-be that I created] and SCSI5 partition #2 [the windows 8.1 bootl
[23:42] <Lunario> oader which I do not want to lose as I want to dual-boot]. Please correct this by changing mount points.
[23:43] <Lunario> Could anybody tell me what to do so that the bootloader installs correctly without deleting the Windows 8.1 bootloader? (unless it automatically adds its content to GRUB so that I can also boot Windows if I want to)
[23:46] <Henesy> Grub should auto-add the windows partition
[23:47] <Lunario> Ok, but then which mount point do I have to change and to where do I have to set it?
[23:50] <eeee> Lunario: i think you can change the partition's mount point by double clicking on it
[23:50] <eeee> set the sda2 partition not to mount, and set the new one to mount
[23:50] <Chloe1> hello
[23:50] <Lunario> ok, will try, thanks
[23:50] <Chloe1> how can i access the tmp folder ty
[23:51] <Oriiiiiiin> @Chloe1 from commandline?
[23:51] <Oriiiiiiin> or using your gui?
[23:51] <Chloe1> lol
[23:51] <Chloe1> yes
[23:51] <Chloe1> but when i open the folder
[23:51] <Chloe1> it says access denied
[23:52] <Lunario> well actually, I just noticed that it makes probably more sense to just mark the old EFI partition (sda2) from windows as EFI boot partition, doesn't it?
[23:52] <Lunario> then I wouldn't have two, which could conflict with each other
[23:52] <Lunario> guess I will try that
[23:52] <eeee> i quite don't follow..
[23:53] <eeee> *don't quite
[23:53] <Oriiiiiiin> @Chloe1 Sounds like you may have accidentally changed the permissions for /tmp
[23:53] <Chloe1> oh
[23:53] <Chloe1> can u tell mre how to rechange them plz:)
[23:55] <Oriiiiiiin> from a quick google it looks like it should be set to 1777 but you'll probably need root
[23:55] <Lunario> what I did some minutes ago was to create a partition marked as "EFI Boot" for ubuntu, as it told me to do so when I wanted to install it. But after doing so I got the warning message that I pasted above (same mount point of the two efi partitions). So I figure it makes more sense to just change the type of the old EFI partition from Fat 32 (as it is now) to EFI Boot?
[23:55] <Oriiiiiiin> so : sudo chmod 1777
[23:55] <Lunario> The EFI partition for ubuntu was not yet written to disk anyway
[23:56] <Oriiiiiiin> so : sudo chmod 1777 /tmp*
[23:56] <Oriiiiiiin> errr
[23:56] <Oriiiiiiin> without the *
[23:56] <Oriiiiiiin> lol
[23:56] <Chloe1> thank you
[23:56] <Chloe1> <3
[23:56] <Lunario> Does my logic make sense?
[23:56] <Oriiiiiiin> Can you access it now?
[23:56] <Chloe1> YEAH
[23:56] <Chloe1> I LOVE YOU
[23:57] <Chloe1> omg
[23:57] <Chloe1> ty
[23:57] <Chloe1> <3
[23:57] <Oriiiiiiin> Have fun
[23:57] <Chloe1> sereously
[23:57] <Chloe1> i love u
[23:57] <Chloe1> ty
[23:57] <Oriiiiiiin> lol
[23:57] <Oriiiiiiin> anytime
[23:58] <eeee> Lunario: the conflict is due to them having the same mount points though, not partition type
[23:58] <eeee> ?
[23:59] <Lunario> Yes
[23:59] <Lunario> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:59] <Lunario> That page also says it is "strongly recommended" to have just one EFI partition per disk
[23:59] <Lunario> (in the paragraph "Creating an EFI partition")
[23:59] <eeee> true, you're not changing the partition type really though
[23:59] <eeee> (i dont think so)