[00:08] <richard28711> does anyone know how to get freetuxtv to worl
[00:08] <richard28711> wok
[00:08] <richard28711> work
[00:15] <valorie> !info freetuxtv
[00:15] <valorie> what isn't working, richard28711?
[00:16] <richard28711> hi..cannot play any channels...when i click on the channel in list nothing happens
[00:17] <richard28711> !info freetuxtv
[00:19] <valorie> richard28711: have you looked here? http://database.freetuxtv.net
[00:19] <valorie> to check the channels
[00:20] <richard28711> no but i will brb
[00:22] <valorie> hmmm, askubuntu.com/questions/459962/freetuxtv-is-installed-in-14-04-and-not-working
[00:22] <valorie> sounds like there are problems perhaps with the backend (vlc)
[00:26] <richard28711> all that showed was the channels and links
[00:27] <richard28711> what should i do
[00:27] <valorie> that isn't kubuntu software, sorry
[00:27] <valorie> you'll need to talk to the developers of that software
[00:27] <valorie> that said, there is a workaround described in the askubuntu link above
[00:27] <richard28711> thank you
[00:28] <valorie> best of luck; sounds like a great idea
[00:29] <Kal> So, I upgraded to 15.04 Beta 1, but now, plasmashell crashes as soon as I log in on my main account.
[00:29] <Kal> If I create a new user and log in as it, then, everything goes fine.
[00:30] <Kal> Are there some files that I can delete/move to prevent this crash, while keeping the rest of my settings and preferences?
[00:31] <Kal> Or would I be better off making a new user account, and transferring parts from my /home dir later?
[00:31] <valorie> Kal: what I would do is save my ~/.kde, .config, and .local to a dropbox or something
[00:32] <valorie> use the new user, and slowly transfer files back
[00:32] <valorie> only one by one
[00:32] <valorie> until you find the "bad" one
[00:32] <valorie> or ones
[00:33] <valorie> what is complicated right now is that although all applications have been ported to frameworks
[00:33] <valorie> not all have been ported to plasma 5
[00:33] <valorie> plasma 5 uses ~/.config and ~/.local
[00:33] <Kal> Oh
[00:33] <valorie> whereas KDE4 used ~/.kde*
[00:33] <Kal> I tried renaming my ~/.kde before, and that didn't fix it, so, I'll try .config and .local
[00:34] <valorie> yeah
[00:34] <Kal> Thanks!
[00:34] <valorie> yw
[01:15] <VolUTFan> Kal, I believe that was one that I had trouble with under 14.10 Plasma 5, and I am sure it carried over to vivid b1
[01:15] <VolUTFan> btw, I created a completely new account and tried logging in as well, and plasmashell never came back
[01:15] <VolUTFan> sooo... just wanted to let you know
[01:17] <VolUTFan> valorie, should I go ahead and get that reported for Kal?  I doubt he can get to a terminal that can provide him with a gui since vividb1p5 plasmashell is crashed
[01:23] <kubuntubuntu> hey folks
[01:24] <alket> nice nick
[01:26] <virusdunil> bonjour tout le monde,un petit nouveau sous kubuntu
[01:26] <krytarik> !fr | virusdunil
[01:52] <VolUTFan> valorie: dropped you a script link on the offtopic channel.  I thought I was in this room when I sent it
[01:52] <VolUTFan> valorie: hope it helps you next time
[01:56] <VolUTFan> I have a question that I had been wondering about, but just now crossed my mind.  Does anyone use clamav, klamav and does it actually find any trojans/worms/malware etc?
[01:56] <VolUTFan> ive tried it before, but it never really did any good.  At least I didn't notice it catching any type of viruii
[02:36] <VolUTFan> All kinda quiet in here right now
[03:37] <remline> There is a calendar widget stuck on my main screen that I can't get rid of
[03:38] <darthanubis> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339654
[03:38] <darthanubis> has this only been fixed in plasma 5?
[03:56] <VolUTFan> has anyone used the simplescreenrecorder ?
[04:49] <valorie> VolUTFan: better that a person file a bug themselves from the troubled machine using the cli: `ubuntu-bug plasmashell` for instance
[04:50] <valorie> that way hardware and software info are automatically added to the bug report
[05:39] <Finetundra> hello, I'm attempting to install razor-qt however each time I try to install I get a return of multiple broken packages. Anyone have any idaes
[05:39] <Finetundra> ?
[05:40] <valorie> according to Wikipedia: Razor-qt is a now defunct free desktop environment for personal computers. Razor merged with LXDE, another project with similar scope.
[05:41] <valorie> you might prefer lubuntu
[05:41] <valorie> which is LXDE on ubuntu
[05:41] <valorie> here on freenode: #lubuntu
[05:42] <Finetundra> valorie: in truth I just want to try out the desktop enviroment. The reason I'm trying for razor-qt is that I hear LXQt is very unstable
[05:44] <valorie> well, a now-defunct distro doesn't sound very stable either
[05:44] <valorie> neither one is on-topic here
[05:44] <Finetundra> true
[05:45] <valorie> I'm reasonably sure that lubuntu is stable
[05:45] <valorie> they are certainly active
[05:46] <valorie> I seed all the *buntu torrents and people are always downloading it
[05:46] <Finetundra> valorie:  I am aware that lubuntu is stable. I'm intersted in the DE itself. Not a whole distro
[05:47] <valorie> sorry, I don't know, and am not interested in more off-topic discussion here
[05:51] <kaidelong> the wiki article is misleading
[05:51] <kaidelong> razor-qt merged with lxqt, a fork of lxde
[05:51] <valorie> it's a wiki - you can fix it
[05:51] <kaidelong> perhaps you can try installing lxqt if that's packaged?
[05:52] <valorie> please take the discussion elsewhere
[05:52] <kaidelong> how is "how do I install a package on kubuntu" off topic
[05:52] <valorie> !info lxqt
[05:53] <kaidelong> I found a PPA
[05:53] <valorie> ok....
[05:53] <kaidelong> oh apparently
[05:53] <kaidelong> it's in here
[05:53] <kaidelong> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/lubuntu-daily
[05:53] <kaidelong> so umm, yes, lubuntu does have this ubottu
[05:54] <valorie> !lubuntu | kaidelong
[05:54] <kaidelong> go ask there
[05:54] <kaidelong> Finetundra, I meant
[06:07] <VolUTFan> whats a good application that I can use, somewhat like "cheese"  except it will capture audio and video off of your webcam?
[06:10] <valorie> kamoso - not sure what it's state is now though
[06:29] <VolUTFan> better question...  can I use my webcam to record audio without using it as a webcam as well?
[06:30] <VolUTFan> funny thing...  I am running lsusb --verbose and do not see an audio controller, although I can use cheese and know that the webcam is working and plugged in.
[06:34] <valorie> on my laptop at least, the mic and cam are separate
[06:34] <valorie> different devices
[06:35] <valorie> you might look at pulseaudio output, or alsamixer
[06:40] <VolUTFan> thx
[06:42] <VolUTFan> i know how to do alsamixer, but how do I check the pulseaudio output
[06:43] <VolUTFan> i have a all in one usb webcam sitting on top of my screen
[06:43] <VolUTFan> lol
[06:44] <valorie> oh, what is the little widget called - velomix I think
[06:44] <valorie> !info velomix
[06:45] <valorie> pfff
[06:45] <valorie> dead widget
[06:45] <valorie> oh, maybe that is now folded into kmix
[08:42] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:44] <nlsthzn> able to scan to HP Photosmart Plus via network (it is connected wirelessly) using Ubuntu 14.04 but not when I use Kubuntu 14.04... read up on sane and made some changes to config files and made sure daemon is running but non of the scanner utilities finds the scanner... any assistance welcome!
[09:39] <Ante_Gamissu> Hi guys, I'm looking ofr info on a web interface to my irc server: any hint ?
[09:39] <AnteGamissu> Sorry changed client.. but the questino is stille the sam e:)
[09:40] <valorie> AnteGamissu: not sure what you mean?
[09:40] <valorie> isn't a web interface part of the ircd you choose?
[09:41] <AnteGamissu> valorie: I have a working irc server, and I'd like to permit people to connect via web (like mibbit as example)
[09:41] <valorie> not sure this is the proper place for question anyway
[09:41] <valorie> ah
[09:41] <valorie> there are java clients that do that, I know
[09:41] <valorie> nothing in kubuntu that I know of
[09:42] <AnteGamissu> I've find some but all not open source :(
[09:42] <valorie> search for webchat
[09:42] <valorie> right
[09:42] <valorie> freenode has one
[09:42] <valorie> so you might investigate that in freenode.net
[09:42] <valorie> lots of info there
[09:43] <AnteGamissu> umm good idea.. I do not use frq freenode so I did not think about... I'll give  a look.. thanks valorie
[09:43] <valorie> this is freenode, LOL
[09:44] <valorie> good luck, I know having such a service available helps get people on
[09:45] <AnteGamissu> founde it seem it name is
[09:45] <AnteGamissu> qwebirc
[09:47] <AnteGamissu> http://www.qwebirc.org/installation really what I was looking for.. thanks valorie
[09:53] <valorie> excellent, have fun with that
[10:04] <AnteGamissu> valorie: really easy to install and confiure... less than 5 minutes and it's up and running!! Thanks a lot
[10:05] <valorie> you are welcome
[10:08] <MrSassyPants> So ok, I'm using the wireless share NetworkManager thing to share the wired connection. But there's an odditiy which I have observed before, clients in the wireless seem to have "internets", but trying to open youtube videos and some other applications doesn't work.
[10:08] <MrSassyPants> Last time I eventually resorted to turning the notebook into a full blown permanent access point.
[10:08] <MrSassyPants> Which is not an option at this point. So whats the deal with the wonky shared wireless?
[11:17] <MoonUnit`> glad i made a backup of my kscreen file, just tried a game demo which broke my monitor layout, login was broken after i rebooted.
[12:57] <JunkHunk> hello I am running sculptris alpha 6 under wine on Kubuntu 14.04 but shortcuts wont work...is there a way to fix it?
[12:58] <JunkHunk> I only find old test results: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=23839&iTestingId=64841
[13:04] <JunkHunk> hey here a 2012 thread... http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?166327-Sculptris-Wine-Xubuntu-11-10-Keyboard-input-freezes-interface
[13:09] <JunkHunk> but a dead end...still
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:28] <Anoniem4l> hello BluesKaj :)
[14:32] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[14:32] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I add IM Contact accounts?
[14:32] <CountryfiedLinux> Telepathy I think it is.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> hi Anoniem4l
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Anoniem4l, how goes the battle with the radeon driver ?
[15:01] <Anoniem4l> BluesKaj: nothing changed, it's pretty much a dead-end
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Anoniem4l, that's unfortunate, wish I knew more about ati/amd gpus and drivers, but i suppose it's the multiscreen setup and gpu output  that's wonky somehow
[15:05] <Anoniem4l> yeah, i am pretty clueless myself as well on what to search/do next
[15:05] <BluesKaj> according to lordievader, your setup should work, since he uses a multiscreen system too.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> with ati radeon
[15:06] <lordievader> Different card, milage may vary.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> true that
[15:14] <lordievader> Must say I do not run Kubuntu. But I think the Kubuntu install was capable of doing the same.
[15:15] <Ben2> Hey :-)
[15:17] <lordievader> o/
[15:21] <MoonUnit`> amd and multiscreen can be weird, had fun setting up mine.
[15:24] <MoonUnit`> screen has tendency to turn into hieroglyphics when changing screen sizes and rotation.
[15:27] <krillion> quassel
[15:27] <krillion> ignore that... oops
[15:30] <Anoniem4l> lordievader: which one do you run? also how did you install the AMD driver?
[15:31] <lordievader> Anoniem4l: I run Gentoo with the radeon driver.
[15:31] <lordievader> Anoniem4l: Compiled into the kernel, not as a module.
[15:36] <Anoniem4l> lordievader: fair enough :P.
[16:49] <Ben2> Hello everybody :-)
[16:49] <BluesKaj> hi Ben2
[16:50] <Ben2> i got a Problem with my touchpad @Ubuntu 14.04 ! "Funktion+F5" doesnt work ! Had anybody the same Problem ? Thx
[16:51] <BluesKaj> Ben2, what does Fn + F5 do ?
[16:51] <Ben2> maybe Computer goes to sleep-mode
[16:53] <Ben2> iḿ not sure if itś F4 or F5....i dont want to try^^
[16:53] <Ben2> the point is : Mouse got funktion,touchpad not any more :-/ !
[17:07] <wonko_> Hello! I ran into an issue with the 15.04 beta. I switched to the NVIDIA drivers via the driver manager, but the dialog to select the display manager was messed up. Now on booting, it falls back to the Unity greeting screen, from which I can't log in (failed to open session).
[17:07] <wonko_>  I have to start sddm from the VT, which then works fine. How can I get sddm to start properly?
[17:09] <lordievader> wonko_: Vivid support is in #ubuntu+1
[17:09] <wonko_> Ok, thanks.
[17:09] <BluesKaj> wonko_, you're booting into lightdm,  that's why you're getting the unity greet page, just remove lightdm
[17:10] <wonko_> I'd prefer not to remove my fallback, but switch "properly" if thats a thing.
[17:12] <lordievader> wonko_: dpkg-reconfigure sddm
[17:13] <wonko_> Ah, I see, will try. Thanks and sorry for using the wrong channel.
[18:13] <richard28711> does anyone know how to get adobe flash to work on Kubuntu 14.10
[18:18] <BluesKaj> richard28711, install flashplugin-installer
[18:18] <proteusguy> richard28711, I turned on the non-free sources and it installed fine. Works in Firefox. However my Opera doesn't work with it.
[18:18] <avitoholix>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:19] <VolUTFan> May want to copy the flashplugin to the plugins directory of the specific browser if it doesn't work after installation?
[18:19] <richard28711> i will try it
[18:19] <VolUTFan> just a thought
[18:19] <proteusguy> VolUTFan, yeah I never know where those are.... :-)
[18:20] <BluesKaj> proteusguy,  usually in /usr/lib/
[18:22] <esmobg> hi   evry weher
[18:22] <esmobg> what  kubuntu is th best of mint
[18:24] <esmobg> i  have   a quastchon ubuntu  is  not using for blind ?
[18:32] <richard28711> thank  you for your help VolUTFan
[18:45] <VolUTFan> **Note** /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so is the flashplugin-installer plugin.  Just simlink this libflashplayer.so to the plugins directory of your specific browser.  Restart browser and should work
[18:53] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, I just copied the nonfree plugin in previous kubuntus to the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins file and that was enough to make it work
[19:26] <john__> unable to install nvidia driver in kubuntu beta 64 bit,,,,
[19:28] <john__> i did removed ubuntu minimal  and upstart and now using systemd..... does it cause  the problem?
[19:29] <soee> john__: what errors do you have  ?
[19:31] <john__> i used driver managers, i didnt get any errors
[19:32] <john__> while installing  nvidia it goes upto 50% and then it chooses xorg driver again instead of installing new driver
[19:32] <soee> try installing it form cli
[19:32] <john__> what is the command to start it
[19:33] <john__> in kjonsole
[19:37] <soee> john__: sudo apt-get install nvidia- ...
[19:37] <soee> and add teh version you want (pres tab and sjould show you wvailable options)
[19:37] <soee> like:
[19:37] <soee> sudo apt-get install nvidia-346
[19:39] <VolUTFan> BluesKaj: Was you using a test system?
[19:39] <VolUTFan> BluesKaj: Sorry, son had my attention for a bit
[19:40] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, no that was on 14.04 I beleive, after the official release
[19:40] <john__> yeah got it removing upstart was creating the problem, i think installing upstart will resolve the problem...
[19:41] <BluesKaj> it was a bug for quite a while iirc
[19:41] <soee> BluesKaj: nvidia driver depends of upstart ?
[19:42] <BluesKaj> not sure, I thought is was the nvidia-prime bug with sddm
[19:42] <BluesKaj> soee,^
[19:43] <soee> BluesKaj: ok
[19:44] <john__> trying to install from muon showed upstart as a dependency...
[19:45] <john__> yep that solved the issue
[19:46] <john__> now it is working
[19:54] <john__> the problem is if kubuntu releases with systemd as only init system default user may be find it difficult to use driver manager...
[19:59] <john__> thanks soee now restarted with nvidia driver.....
[19:59] <soee> john__: cool :)
[20:19] <VolUTFan> Hey can I get some help for vokoscreen please?  I am trying to set this thing up so I can record a screencast, unfortunally I can't seem to get any audio.  It is a USB webcam that sits on top of my monitor.  http://picpaste.com/vokoscreen-no-audio-n4HDtrH1.jpg
[20:23] <BluesKaj> VolUTFan, check audio capture settings in alsamixer and pavucontrol/pulseaudio
[20:25] <VolUTFan> I did, nothing there, but I think this specific webcam doesn't have a mic built in.  Weird since I swear I used this to record my other screencasts.  lol
[20:32] <BluesKaj> hm , I thought all webcams came with a built in mic
[20:37] <VolUTFan> apparently not this one lol
[20:37] <VolUTFan> vokoscreen isn't recording either, with or without audio
[20:37] <VolUTFan> i click start.. it flashes and doesn't start recordin
[20:41] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[20:41] <CountryfiedLinux> The SD card in my camcorder isn't showing in Dolphin. Any suggestions?
[20:41] <CountryfiedLinux> Thanks in advance.
[20:42] <BluesKaj> CountryfiedLinux, do you have a sdcard reader on the pc , if so try it there
[20:45] <CountryfiedLinux> Yes I do BluesKaj and tried that. But in other OSes I could just turn it on, plug it into the usb, press play, then it would show up in the file manager.
[20:45] <MrSassyPants> ok is it just me or is dnsmasq full of AIDS and fail?
[21:24] <ubarg> hi, anybody's here?
[21:25] <bprompt> *cough* nope *cough*
[21:25] <bprompt> :P
[21:25] <ubarg> kubuntu 14.04.2 with Plasma 4.13... Plasma 4.13!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:25] <ubarg> An UNSUPPORTED version by KDE...
[21:25] <ubarg> this must be a f*k*ng joke!
[21:26] <bprompt> ?
[21:26] <ubarg> what are thinking the devs?
[21:26] <bprompt> well... I use kde 4.8.5  and works fine
[21:26] <ubarg> but is not serious
[21:27] <ubarg> releasing an update
[21:27] <ubarg> with unsupported soft
[21:29] <NotoriuS> русские есть???
[21:30] <bprompt> !ru | NotoriuS
[21:32] <RegexNinja47>  Hi! I'm having trouble getting KDE working with vnc4server in Kubuntu 15.04. It just shows a blank grey screen. The contents of my log can be found here: pastebin.com/dnbuzu88
[21:32] <RegexNinja47> Can anyone pinpoint the error?
[21:36] <NotoriuS> hi, im work ubuntu 14.04, but start OS error. What doing? bag in Temps!!
[21:40] <RegexNinja47> NotoriuS: Se il vous plaît fournir plus de détails
[21:40] <RegexNinja47> Are you french? Sounds like french broken english
[21:41] <RegexNinja47> BTW French (or whatever language you speak) has a very different grammer
[21:41] <RegexNinja47> So I can barely understand what your saying
[21:41] <RegexNinja47> grammar*
[22:03] <lordievader> !info libkdecore5
[22:04] <lordievader> !info libkdecore5 kubuntu-backports
[22:59] <Felishia> how do I connect to wifi on kubuntu?
[23:00] <Felishia> without plasma
[23:00] <Felishia> plasma crashes all the damn time
[23:00] <Felishia> it's getting in my nerves
[23:01] <soee> Felishia: check for example http://askubuntu.com/questions/294257/connect-to-wifi-network-through-ubuntu-terminal
[23:04] <valorie> Felishia: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[23:04] <Felishia> valorie, latest
[23:04] <Felishia> it crashes when I use chrome, just suddenly
[23:04] <valorie> by which you mean 14.10?
[23:05] <Felishia> and I need chrome because I develop with it
[23:05] <Felishia> valorie, yes
[23:05] <Felishia> I need to stay up to date.
[23:05] <valorie> and you didn't install the next ppa?
[23:05] <Felishia> which?
[23:05] <Felishia> o.O
[23:05] <valorie> sure, but Chrome is always behind chromium
[23:06] <Felishia> I see another upgrade
[23:06] <Felishia> valorie, what do you mean?
[23:06] <valorie> Felishia: we used to support a PPA for testing plasma 5
[23:06] <valorie> that has now been deprecated
[23:06] <valorie> I just wanted to be sure that wasn't the cause of your plasma crashing problem
[23:07] <Felishia> ahw... :< but does chromium has the same features as chrome?
[23:07] <Felishia> I need the features more than anything
[23:07] <Felishia> mostly breakpoints and device emulation
[23:07] <valorie> since I don't use it for development, I can't tell you that
[23:07] <Felishia> actually google chrome has a problem with css media queries emulation
[23:07] <valorie> however, I use chromium without problems
[23:08] <Felishia> valorie, my plasma is up to date
[23:08] <Felishia> actually I'm running an apt-upgrade now
[23:08] <Felishia> what do you use?
[23:08] <valorie> !info chromium-browser
[23:08] <Felishia> :<
[23:08] <valorie> you might google around a bit and see if that fills your needs
[23:09] <soee> the only problems i had with chromium was its gpu rendering/support that make browser unresponsive etc.
[23:09] <soee> after i switched off gpu support, it works pretty nice
[23:09] <valorie> and just to clarify: I'm running it in Vivid beta
[23:09] <soee> also a nice browser is Vivaldi
[23:09] <Felishia> valorie, yes I will
[23:09] <Felishia> after I upgrade chrome :<
[23:10] <Felishia> Vivalwhat?
[23:10] <Felishia> o.O
[23:10]  * Felishia needs debugging tests mostly
[23:10] <Felishia> I haven't found anything more verbose than chrome for the moment
[23:10] <soee> Felishia: https://vivaldi.com/
[23:10] <Felishia> it's so verbose that it can get anoying XD
[23:11] <soee> Felishia: bts is like beta version
[23:11] <soee> though super fast :)
[23:13] <Felishia> soee, give me a sec my internet is slow
[23:13] <Felishia> 100kbps at most :p
[23:13] <Felishia> still 25% ¬¬ u kidding me?
[23:14]  * Felishia throws a brick at the modem
[23:14] <Felishia> OMG My_Dog!
[23:14] <soee> :)
[23:15] <Felishia> soee, you seem familiar to me... do I know you from somewhere else?
[23:15] <Felishia> it's running at 50kbps actually :<
[23:16] <soee> oh i doubt, i'm not an linux expert, i'm more web developer :)
[23:16] <valorie> you are too modest, soee
[23:16] <Felishia> so am I...
[23:17] <Felishia> whois doesn't work!
[23:18] <Felishia> it's my internet which got stuck
[23:19] <Felishia> soee, yeah considering ubuntu phone now it's about HTML5 and QML
[23:19] <Felishia> now any webdev knows a lot about linux
[23:35] <Felishia> 90%! yay!
[23:39] <Felishia> soee, alright now reading about vivaldi


[09:54] <mpt> Where do I report bugs in the U1 music store?
[09:54] <mpt> oh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-music-store
[11:11] <gatox> good morning!
[11:49] <alecu> good morning!
[11:51] <gatox> alecu, good morning to you sir!
[11:53] <gatox> alecu, i have a branch stuck in approved since yesterday.... it has a commit message, and i didn't see any reason why it doesn't land...... but it's stuck there....
[12:04] <alecu> gatox: I'm sure you've already tried putting it as "needs review" and back to "Approved", right?
[12:05] <gatox> alecu, no..... i didn't know that trick..... trying...
[12:49] <ralsina> good late morning!
[13:46] <mmcc> good morning everyone.
[13:46] <gatox> brb
[13:50] <ralsina> morning mmcc!
[13:53] <gatox> back
[14:37] <mmcc> Any opinions on the version number for the mac app? For test builds, should we have some per-build number, or include the date in it somewhere? There's both a numerical version number and a localizable string that we can put things like "build 20120808-12" into
[14:38] <gatox> back..... i'm having some issues with my internet connection
[14:45] <ralsina> either tests are getting slower every day or I am getting more impatient every time I run them
[14:45] <ralsina> mmcc: is there a separate version and build number?
[14:47] <ralsina> mmcc: trunk is supposed to be 3.99.x but something like a date is a better idea at this moment
[14:48] <gatox> ralsina, i don't know which one it is.... but i'm having the same problem
[14:49] <ralsina> gatox: it seems to happen every few months, then someone wastes a week making them go fast again
[14:51] <mmcc> sorry, had to step away for a sec.
[14:52] <mmcc> ralsina: there's a version number that has to be period-separated digits, then a "version string" that shows up in finder's get info box, that can be anything - convention is that it includes the version number
[14:53] <mmcc> I just now made it throw the contents of revnos.txt into that version string, so it looks like this: "3.0.0 (ubuntu-sso-client: 988, ubuntuone-client: 1289, ubuntuone-control-panel: 343, ubuntuone-storage-protocol: 159)"
[14:54] <mmcc> A little messy for distribution but seems handy for testing
[14:59] <gatox> ralsina, do you know how to run specific qt tests for u1-cp?? i forgot something..... or something change.... i'm trying to do: u1trial --reactor=qt4 path/to/test.py
[15:02] <briancurtin> me
[15:02] <alecu> me
[15:02] <gatox> me
[15:04] <ralsina> me
[15:04] <ralsina> thisfred, mmcc: say me
[15:04] <mmcc> me
[15:04] <thisfred> ni
[15:04] <ralsina> gatox: --gui ?
[15:04] <gatox> ralsina, don't know.... will try
[15:05] <mmcc> ralsina, gatox it's both - --gui and --reactor=qt4
[15:05] <briancurtin> DONE: installer upgrade testing, 1-1, installer sent for testing
[15:05] <briancurtin> TODO: metaclass/next porting, 2to3 runs to see what else is left
[15:05] <briancurtin> NEXT: alecu
[15:05] <gatox> mmmm it's failing with boths.....
[15:06] <alecu> DONE: reviews, finished a branch for bug #1031197, needing reviews itself
[15:06] <alecu> TODO: more tests of the ported protobuf with python3, catch up with py3k and briancurtin
[15:06] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[15:06] <alecu> NOTE: I'm taking off this friday
[15:06] <alecu> NEXT: gatox
[15:06] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1031197 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) "DownloadFinished signal triggers when file has not yet completed writing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031197
[15:06] <ralsina> gatox: I'll help you after the standup
[15:06] <gatox> DONE:
[15:06] <gatox> Propose u1-client branches for sync menu (need reviews on this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/ipcmenu/+merge/118621)
[15:06] <gatox> TODO:
[15:06] <gatox> Keep working on u1-cp implementation.
[15:06] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:06] <gatox> No
[15:06] <gatox> ralsina, go
[15:06] <ralsina> DONE: calls calls calls (to the tune of Motley Crue's girls girls girls) reviews, some bug triaging, finished contract wrangling (twisted port on the way!)  TODO: fix a bug or two, reviews BLOCKED: no NEXT mmcc
[15:06] <gatox> TODO: 1-1 with ralsina
[15:06] <mmcc> DONE: cert loc code, reviews, looking at filemonitor bug
[15:06] <mmcc> TODO: package for test builds, bug filing
[15:06] <mmcc> BLCK: none
[15:06] <mmcc> NEXT: thisfred
[15:06] <thisfred> DONE: cosas conflict resolution TODO: same BLOCKED: 1/2 (API decisions need to be made that I don't feel comfortable making all by myself, but I can continue on other aspects)
[15:07] <alecu> ralsina: "(twisted port on the way!)" yay!
[15:07] <ralsina> thisfred: happy to give biased unfounded opinions on API matters
[15:07] <thisfred> ralsina, in that case see the backlog in the internal u1db channel ;)
[15:08] <ralsina> thisfred: will do
[15:08] <ralsina> thisfred: it's LONG though
[15:09] <thisfred> yep :)
[15:11] <alecu> mmcc: did you find anything in the filemonitor bug?
[15:12] <mmcc> alecu, well, I noticed that if you kill and restart syncdaemon, the files get uploaded. Still looking at what might be going wrong. I am suspicious of the RPC errors about on_upload_finished.
[15:12] <ralsina> thisfred: the idea of the extra argument in query calls feels natural, but it also feels strange in that, when would the user *not* want to know of conflicts?
[15:13] <ralsina> thisfred: although I am probably misunderstanding because I read it quickly
[15:13] <gatox> can anyone try this on u1-cp: u1trial --gui ubuntuone/controlpanel/gui/qt/tests/test_filesyncstatus.py ??? and tell me if that works for you?
[15:13] <gatox> i'm probably doing something wrong.... but i don't know what
[15:13] <gatox> i thought that should work
[15:14] <ralsina> gatox: --gui without reactor is not going to wrk for qt tests
[15:14] <gatox> ohhhhhhh long time without using both!!!!
[15:14] <gatox> ralsina, thx!!!
[15:15] <gatox> that's why you are the manager!!!! \o/ jeje
[15:15] <ralsina> gatox: jeje
[15:15] <ralsina> gatox: besides, alecu already told you that a ew minutes ago ;-)
[15:16] <gatox> oh.... totally miss that meesage.... sorry alecu
[15:16] <ralsina> Any pending reviews?
[15:16] <gatox> ralsina, yes please
[15:16] <thisfred> ralsina, right. Problem is we can't do the extra argument, because the queries have a *arg parameter
[15:16] <gatox> ralsina, this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/ipcmenu/+merge/118621
[15:16] <thisfred> which means no keyword args allowed
[15:16] <ralsina> thisfred: ugh
[15:17] <ralsina> thisfred: ok, no good suggestions then
[15:17] <alecu> gatox: ralsina, it was mmcc that said it, not me :-)
[15:17] <thisfred> ralsina, discussing with aq now, but I think we're steering towards just always including the information on whether there are conflicts
[15:17] <gatox> sorry mmcc then :P
[15:17] <ralsina> thisfred: that makes more sense
[15:17] <ralsina> thisfred: like I said, why would the caller not want to know that? :-)
[15:18] <alecu> mmcc: hmmm... if sd finds the files after being restarted, it sounds like some events were missed the first time.
[15:18]  * gatox lunch
[15:18] <mmcc> gatox :) no prob
[15:18] <ralsina> alecu, mmcc: could be that argument error is making it drop some events?
[15:18] <thisfred> ralsina, I agree. The only reason it might not want to know if the app never syncs. Then why use u1db ;)
[15:19] <ralsina> thisfred: and willful ignorance is easy to achieve, just ignore the data ;-)
[15:19] <alecu> mmcc: that happesn because after the restart sd has a chance to rescan the filesystem.
[15:19] <thisfred> and it's easy to ignore, you'd just pay a tiny performance price
[15:19] <thisfred> right
[15:19] <mmcc> alecu: on the first run,  it sees the file create, it generates a MakeFile, but no corresponding Upload log entry ever shows up.
[15:19] <alecu> ralsina: which "argument error" ?
[15:19] <mmcc> alecu, right- the restarted daemon sees the files in the local rescan
[15:20] <alecu> mmcc: oh, ok. Were you able to reproduce that consistently?
[15:20] <ralsina> alecu: the "requires 2 arguments, received 3" ior something, it was in mmcc's log
[15:20] <ralsina> alecu: it was on on_upload_finished, IIRC
[15:20]  * alecu needs fosfovita
[15:20] <mmcc> alecu, ralsina: 2012-08-07 12:12:46,689 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Pb - WARNING - Could not emit signal 'on_upload_finished' to <twisted.spread.pb.RemoteReference instance at 0x10512ad40> due to 'on_upload_finished() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given)'
[15:21] <ralsina> OMG *my* fosfovita worked :-)
[15:21] <ralsina> translation: fosfovita is a minerals/vitamins pill that claims to improve memory because it has phosphorus
[15:21]  * ralsina would rather lick a matchbox
[15:22] <mmcc> mmmmmm phosphorus
[15:22] <alecu> ralsina: remember to lick the matches, not the box!
[15:22] <ralsina> alecu: all the phosphorus on safety matches is in the box :-)
[15:22] <ralsina> alecu: that's why you can't light them in your boot like a cowboy
[15:23] <alecu> ralsina: then why do we still call them "fósforos" ?
[15:23] <ralsina> alecu: tradition
[15:23]  * alecu tries licking a lighter
[15:23] <ralsina> alecu: and because "little sticks with some thing that burns on the tip but is not phosphorus" is not marketable
[15:24] <mmcc> ralsina: you've heard of "I can't believe it's not butter," right?
[15:24] <ralsina> mmcc: I even tried it!
[15:24] <ralsina> mmcc: I totally believed it!
[15:24] <alecu> mmcc: I don't think that error has anything to do with the missed events problem.
[15:25] <ralsina> mmcc: http://boingboing.net/2012/07/04/walmarts-i-cant-believe.html
[15:25] <mmcc> alecu - ok, so it just gets logged and ignored, and doesn't leave anything wedged?
[15:26] <ralsina> alecu: the other possibility that comes to mind is a semantic difference or out-of-order events
[15:26] <ralsina> alecu: which is scary
[15:26] <alecu> mmcc, ralsina: right
[15:27] <alecu> ralsina: remember that macfsevents does not get events for individual files, but for some changes in a folder
[15:27] <ralsina> alecu: then maybe there is a bug in the code to figure out the diff
[15:27] <alecu> ralsina: and it's synthezising (wow, that was hard) some events from the changes it sees.
[15:27] <ralsina> right
[15:28] <alecu> hmmm\
[15:29] <alecu> but, mmcc says that the event was received. And it's just the Upload that's missing....
[15:29] <mmcc> alecu - well, I'm not sure it's just the upload missing - I don't know what *should* be there. here's the log: https://pastebin.canonical.com/71687/
[15:29] <ralsina> if there is a makefile, and no upload, maybe it thinks it's still open
[15:30] <mmcc> I'm going to go log in to my u1 account in ubuntu and try the same thing and see what log messages I get so I know what's up
[15:30] <ralsina> and/or the nanny is preventing the upload
[15:30] <mmcc> ralsina: if the nanny was blocking it, would there be a log message? there's no 'nanny' string in the log paste
[15:30] <ralsina> mmcc: no
[15:33] <briancurtin> alecu: if you have a chance, would you mind running the tests on lp:~brian.curtin/ubuntu-sso-client/py3-unicode-part-3 to see what you get. this is that SyncTimestampChecker that is failing
[15:33] <mmcc> IIRC you guys did a sprint a while back with presentations on syncdaemon, right? are those presentations around anywhere for me to refer to?
[15:35] <alecu> mmcc, it was more like a workshop, and there were no slides, sorry.
[15:36] <mmcc> alecu: ok.
[15:36] <alecu> we should definitely record it next time
[15:36] <briancurtin> mmcc: i have the hand-written posters and diagrams if you want them, but like alecu said, it was more of a workshop. there was a lot of talk going along with reading code
[15:36] <mmcc> briancurtin: hand-written posters and diagrams sounds great, got to be better than nothing
[15:37] <briancurtin> mmcc: i'll see if i can take good pictures of them or something
[15:38] <mmcc> briancurtin: oh, I thought you already had pics :) ok, but take your time - and don't worry too much about quality
[16:17] <alecu> briancurtin: here, right? test_server_date_sends_nocache_headers
[16:17] <briancurtin> alecu: yep, that's the one
[16:17] <alecu> briancurtin: I get the same 500. I'll take a further look.
[16:18] <briancurtin> alecu: the odd thing is that i do what that test does in the interpreter just fine. i can also use urllib to hit that URL just fine. it only seems to fail when run in the test suite :/
[16:18] <alecu> briancurtin: what is the url?
[16:19] <ralsina> lunchtime
[16:19] <briancurtin> alecu: "http://one.ubuntu.com/api/time"
[16:20] <alecu> briancurtin: I think we should not be hitting that from the tests. We should be using a mock webserver if needed.
[16:20] <briancurtin> alecu: i don't disagree, but this should work. it works fine on trunk
[16:21] <alecu> briancurtin:         self.patch(SyncTimestampChecker, "SERVER_URL", self.ws.get_iri())
[16:21] <briancurtin> it also works if you just open up an interpreter, import that, and call get_server_time just fine
[16:21] <alecu> briancurtin: so, we are not using that url in the test, as it's being patched.
[16:22] <briancurtin> alecu: ah
[16:25] <alecu> briancurtin: one more thing: I *think* this code is not used anymore.
[16:26] <alecu> briancurtin: oauth_headers and the timestamp_checker module instance of SyncTimestampChecker
[16:27] <alecu> briancurtin: right. I think I forgot to get rid of the SyncTimestampChecker when it was no longer needed. I surely seem to have gotten rid of the AsyncTimestampChecker.
[16:28] <briancurtin> alecu: ah, well then that makes this easier. im doing a double check that we dont need it. i think you're right
[16:29] <alecu> briancurtin: I've done a quick grep in u1-client and u1cp and they are not used either.
[16:29] <briancurtin> alecu: cool
[16:30] <alecu> briancurtin: I think we should do a branch to delete both, and see if anything breaks. And if it breaks, it should be using the new webclient anyway.
[16:31] <briancurtin> alecu: i'll go that route and take SyncTimestampChecker out outside of the unicode branch
[16:46] <alecu> this netsplitting is just awesome.
[16:46] <alecu> briancurtin: don't know if this reached you:
 briancurtin: I think we should do a branch to delete both, and see if anything breaks. And if it breaks, it should be using the new webclient anyway.
 briancurtin: would you mind creating a bug for this and assigning it to me?
 briancurtin: you can skip those fixes in this branch. Thanks for finding it!
[16:47] <briancurtin> alecu: now i got it, and i'll create the bug shortly
[16:47] <alecu> thanks :-)
[16:48] <gatox> alecu, dobey is on vacation?
[16:49] <alecu> gatox: calendar says he returns tomorrow
[16:49] <alecu> hey! it's joshuahoover's birthday today!
[16:49] <gatox> alecu, ok..... usually he knows with the branches are not landing :P
[16:50] <alecu> gatox: we should probably ping sidnei about tarmac when dobey is not around
[16:53] <alecu> lunch time for me.
[17:32] <ralsina> gatox: 1-1?
[17:32] <gatox> ralsina, right!
[17:33] <gatox> mumble or irc?
[17:33] <ralsina> mumble
[17:33] <gatox> ralsina, ack
[17:39] <mmcc> ok, early lunch here. back in a bit
[18:08] <ralsina> mmcc, briancurtin, gatox, alecu: any reviews pending?
[18:09] <gatox> ralsina, nop
[18:09] <briancurtin> none at the moment
[18:09] <alecu> ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntuone/+activereviews
[18:09] <gatox> ralsina, ahhhh yes, tihs one: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/ipcmenu/+merge/118621
[18:09] <ralsina> alecu: prefiero el human touch ;-)
[18:09] <gatox> ralsina, i thought you already approve it
[18:09] <alecu> ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/fix-download-finished/+merge/118759
[18:09] <briancurtin> alecu: i created bug #1034528 for that SyncTimestampChecker. working on it right now
[18:09] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1034528 in Ubuntu Single Sign On Client "Remove SyncTimestampChecker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034528
[18:09] <ralsina> gatox: no, seen it but not reviewed it entirely yet
[18:10] <ralsina> alecu: got it
[18:10] <gatox> ralsina, ahh ok
[18:10] <alecu> briancurtin: ok, great. I can work on that if you want to keep going over the unicode branches.
[18:10] <ralsina> gatox: will +1 as soon as I run the tests
[18:10] <gatox> ralsina, ack
[18:10]  * alecu has just conflated py3 and unicode.
[18:11] <alecu> I wonder how much of that is true :P
[18:11] <briancurtin> alecu: it seems easy enough. i just started on it a few mins ago
[18:11] <alecu> briancurtin: great then.
[18:12] <ralsina> alecu: unicode in python2 is gatox, so you can conflate them only in some cases ;-)
[18:19] <ralsina> grrrr I have to check the assertIn argument order every time I run into it
[18:19] <ralsina> yes, it's arg1 in arg2 but then that reads "assertIn needle, haystack" which makes my eyes stumble
[18:28] <alecu> ralsina: I always remember that bit (thanks fosfovita), but I never type it right.
[18:29] <ralsina> gatox: +1
[18:30] <gatox> ralsina, thx
[18:31] <ralsina> alecu: have to love a 5-line patch with 55 lines of tests, right? :-)
[18:31] <alecu> lol
[18:32] <alecu> I had to refactor one of the tests, that's why :-)
[18:33] <alecu> and yes... 11:1 is too high. Usually it's 3:1 or 4:1
[18:35] <ralsina> at least the problem seems well contained :-)
[18:35] <ralsina> alecu: +1 ran tests only on linux though
[18:36] <alecu> thanks
[18:50] <mmcc> ralsina: I have another high test-to-code branch for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~mikemc/ubuntuone-storage-protocol/fix-1025950-cert-locs/+merge/118603
[18:50] <mmcc> (because there weren't tests before)
[18:50] <ralsina> mmcc: got it
[18:50] <ralsina> mmcc: he
[18:50] <ralsina> mmcc: storage protocol is mostly very old code before we got religion
[18:53] <gatox> ralsina, as some parts of u1-client.......
[18:54] <ralsina> gatox: on some parts of u1-client I expect to see *mold*
[18:54] <gatox> jeje
[19:06]  * mmcc just wrote "import tracebacon".
[19:08] <beuno> mmcc, did it work?
[19:11] <alecu> it's just a whiff away
[19:16] <mmcc> sadly, no… it did not work.
[19:26] <briancurtin> alecu: so i'm looking at this SyncTimestampChecker removal...it doesn't look like TimestampChecker is intended to be used by itself, so it doesnt seem as easy as just replacing its use
[19:27] <briancurtin> unless im misunderstanding it
[19:27] <briancurtin> it looks like its consumed by BaseWebClient, but i dont think the places which used a timestamp checker want a BaseWebClient (or other web client)
[19:28] <mterry> Are U1 oauth credentials stored in my home directory?
[19:30] <mterry> Ah, in the keyring I bet
[19:33] <gatox> alecu, when you have a moment:  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-control-panel/refactor-sync-status/+merge/118809  -  https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-client/ipcmenu/+merge/118621
[19:43] <alecu> hey all, ralsina has just smsd me: his house ran out of power
[19:43] <briancurtin> that sucks
[19:44] <gatox> :S
[19:45] <alecu> briancurtin: afaik SyncTimestampChecker is not used anymore.
[19:45] <alecu> briancurtin: only TimestampChecker is used nowadays.
[19:46] <briancurtin> alecu: there were a few things that seem to have been using SyncTimestampChecker this whole time. they were getting it from utils.timestamp_checker, which pointed to an instance of SyncTimestampChcker
[19:54] <alecu> briancurtin: I can't find any usage of that timestamp_checker other than the tests for it
[19:54] <alecu> briancurtin: in ussoc, in u1c nor in u1cp
[19:54] <alecu> and u1sp
[19:55] <alecu> briancurtin: in which module did you find that usage?
[19:55] <briancurtin> alecu: maybe i'll post the branch in a minute. i removed STC and its tests, but things are still depending on utils.timestamp_checker
[19:55] <alecu> ack
[19:58] <briancurtin> alecu: i guess it's just line 207 in ubuntu_sso/utils/tests/test_common.py - it patches that utils.timestamp_checker (which would be SyncTimestampChecker)
[19:59] <briancurtin> alecu: and the oauth stuff in ubuntu_sso.utils then uses timestamp_checker, which is the SyncTimestampChecker
[20:01] <alecu> briancurtin: right. And that oauth_headers method is not used anymore either.
[20:02] <alecu> briancurtin: I rolled up both into the new webclient.
[20:02] <briancurtin> alecu: alright, i'll remove that then see what happens
[20:02] <alecu> briancurtin: previously every webclient user would check the timestamp and would sign oauth.
[20:03] <alecu> briancurtin: with the new one, this is done automatically by the webclient.
[20:04] <briancurtin> alecu: so i should then remove the entire SignWithCredentialsTestCase? because that was still using oauth_headers
[20:11] <alecu> briancurtin: it looks like it should be gone, yes.
[20:13] <briancurtin> alecu: ah there we go, i think it's good now
[20:13] <alecu> great
[20:14] <briancurtin> i guess that was easier than i thought...it seemed like a whole bunch of important stuff to just be ripping out
[20:16] <gatox> eod here!!! bye all!
[20:20] <ralsina> hello again, sorry, was out of power & internet
[20:28] <alecu> hello back there, boss.
[20:49] <briancurtin> alecu: when you have a minute: https://code.launchpad.net/~brian.curtin/ubuntu-sso-client/remove-SyncTimestampChecker/+merge/118826
[20:55] <alecu> briancurtin: looking
[20:57] <alecu> briancurtin: small needsfixing
[20:57] <alecu> briancurtin: we should also remove the unused imports
[21:00] <alecu> ok, EOD here.
[21:00] <alecu> cheers, all!
[21:12] <ralsina> bye alecu!
[21:22] <ralsina> EOD for me as well. bye!
[22:56] <mmcc> ok, I'm done for today. see you all tomorrow


[08:31] <ikonia> bugsquad, what's the best way to get an old/void bug removed/closed ?
[09:42] <erkan^> hello, is someone there?
[09:47] <game2> erkan^: hi
[09:50] <erkan^> hi game2, i have same problem --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/463847 . my language is dutch. are they fixed ?
[09:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 463847 in ubuntu-translations "Firefox profile manager dialogs are still in English (dup-of: 339326)" [Low,Confirmed]
[09:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 339326 in firefox "[MASTER] some parts of Firefox are not localized" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:52] <game2> that bug is a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/339326 which is not marked as fixed yet.
[09:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 339326 in firefox "[MASTER] some parts of Firefox are not localized" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:53] <game2> if you have the same problem, you can click on "Does this bug affect you?".
[09:55] <erkan^> I did it
[09:55] <erkan^> but how can that -profilemanager is english only, and when i open firefox , than is dutch language, game2
[09:59] <game2> erkan^: comment #23 has the only theory I can see there.
[10:02] <erkan^> http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/ ?
[10:57] <steffen> I have got a problem that in 12.04 adding a google mail account to Evolution fails because online action is required. I think this function is provided by gnome-online-accounts which is disabled in 12.04. How to open it anyways. BTW I cannot create a bug report in launchpad since it always forwards me to the wiki.
[11:18] <erkan^> http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/  game2 ?
[11:20] <game2> erkan^: what is your question?  btw, I'm not familiar with the upstream processes
[11:20] <erkan^> you said: #23
[11:21] <game2> comment #23 has a theory about the cause. But that is not a work-around.  The mozilla website mentioned is an upstream repository.
[11:22] <erkan^> ah i understand it
[12:32] <Medo_313> hi, I want to report a bug at ubuntu 12.4
[12:33] <Medo_313> when is dragging a window up to the main bar and still dragging it down quickly the mouse cursor goes away from the window !!
[12:36] <Medo_313> another one, when I had some apps at more than one workspace & I press "Microsoft button + e" the windows appears in some crazy way !!
[13:07] <bcurtiswx> good morning
[17:39] <lukas123> Hello! I have a question regarding bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/796030. It has a patch attached to it, which has already made its way into the upstream 3.4-rc1 kernel, see http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=be53bfdb8088e9d1924199cc1a96e113756b1075. What would need to happen to get this patch into the precise kernel?
[17:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 796030 in gentoo "intel gma 4500mhd external monitor picture scrambled" [Undecided,New]
[18:39] <njin> bug 962298 , can be sent upstream ?
[18:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 962298 in gnome-shell "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in _clutter_actor_finish_queue_redraw()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/962298
[18:39] <njin> I also think that is better raise the importance to high
[18:41] <njin> om26er ,hy, can i send this upstrem  ? ^^
[18:44] <om26er> njin, i think the crash is happening in clutter
[18:44] <om26er> but yes you should send it upstream
[18:44] <njin> ok I will do it Thanks
[20:27] <steffen> hi, why bug reporting is closed for precise, how should we test?


[03:15] <WebVisitor-2> hi, is there some way to disable three finger dragging of windows in ubuntu?
[03:16] <WebVisitor-2> i like all the other gestures, i just find the three finger dragging to be somewhat irritating.


[03:57] <marcoceppi> Azendale: you still having issues with keystone?
[12:34] <AskUbuntu> Not abel to destory service as agent state is down | http://askubuntu.com/q/346228
[14:22] <marcoceppi> m_3: I know you're on review this week, but I wasn't able to get through the queue much last week. I'm going to plow through most of it today to leave you in a bit of a better state
[14:58] <m_3> marcoceppi: cool... I'm off for part of today and tomorrow
[14:58] <m_3> marcoceppi: so that works out well
[14:58] <m_3> :)
[15:12] <AskUbuntu> juju error: hook failed: "config-changed" | http://askubuntu.com/q/346276
[16:24] <kentb> so what exactly does a "HOOK error: no relation id specified" mean?  I had to restart my nova-cloud-controller node and now it's sitting at a hook error like this along with my glance service (with the same error).
[16:30] <marcoceppi> kentb: is that in the log?
[16:31] <kentb> marcoceppi: yep.  In the unit logs for the nova-cloud-controller and glance services
[16:31] <marcoceppi> kentb: juju 1.13?
[16:31] <kentb> marcoceppi: yes sir
[16:31] <marcoceppi> it's weird a weird error to be getting
[16:33] <marcoceppi> kentb: it means relation-(get/set/id) is being called out of band of a relation hook and is not getting the JUJU_RELATION_ID
[16:37] <kentb> marcoceppi: ok. so how doth one correct that?  juju resolved got the service back on line, but, didn't really seem to fix anything in that keystone and authentication services are totally hosed.
[16:38] <marcoceppi> kentb: right, you'll probably want to use `juju resolved --retry` next time to have the hook retry itself. Which hook actually failed? config-changed ?
[16:38] <kentb> marcoceppi: yep. config-changed
[18:57] <kurt__> marcoceppi: My back search function is horrible in my IRC client - can you give me the link for the bug you created for me on Friday?
[20:08] <sinzui> kurt__, is this the bug you were looking for? https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/nova-cloud-controller/+bug/1225160
[20:08] <_mup_> Bug #1225160: cloud-compute-relation-changed fails, getaddrinfo error <nova-cloud-controller (Juju Charms Collection):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1225160>
[20:18] <kentb> agh! I hit that on Friday...worked around it by including "search master" in my resolv.conf going forward
[21:14] <kurt__> sinzui: yes it was.  thank you!
[21:15] <kurt__> kentb: you could also add your hostnames to the affected node's /etc/hosts
[21:37] <kentb> kurt__: yep. indeed.  What I ended up doing was adding the "option domain-search 'master';" line to /etc/maas/dhcpd.conf and restarting the service so all future machines would get the new settings.
[21:44] <kurt__> kentb: good idea
[21:48] <dalek49> does juju support vps yet?  I can find outdated answers that say no
[21:48] <mhall119> can someone tell me if the postgres charm will create a schema and user for me, or if I have to specify those in my Django app's charm?
[21:49] <kurt__> jcastro: are you on?
[21:57] <marcoceppi> kurt__: he's out sick, anything I can help with?
[21:58] <marcoceppi> mhall119: it /should/ iirc, but it also allows you to send the schema name
[21:59] <kurt__> marcoceppi: nope.  I just wanted to thank him for the threads he sent my way
[22:00] <marcoceppi> kurt__: ah, yeah, he's a bit under the weather today
[22:00] <kurt__> marcoceppi: that's fine.  I got camera/mic set up fixed too.  So next hangout session should go smoother.
[22:00] <marcoceppi> kurt__: excellent, how's the openstack setup going?
[22:01] <kurt__> taking a little break today :)
[22:01]  * kentb got his rebuilt and humming along
[22:01] <marcoceppi> kentb: nice!
[22:01] <kurt__> kentb: with networking and vm's running with horizon 100% ?
[22:02] <kentb> kurt__: so far...that's where I left off on Friday before a hardware failure over the weekend basically forced me to rebuild it all
[22:02] <kentb> kurt__: I've got to upload a couple of images but it should all be working as well as it did before catastrophe hit :)
[22:03] <kurt__> kentb: yeah I managed to get everything but the ability to spin up and access a VM before.  So I hope you get further
[22:04] <kentb> marcoceppi: thanks! If the hardware on these old servers don't die on me again, I hope to be in good shape :)
[22:05] <marcoceppi> kentb: exciting! good luck
[22:56] <sinzui> hi davecheney
[22:57] <sinzui> davecheney, I agree a video call is not needed for the steps.


[09:37] <JamesTait> Happy Fix It Friday everyone! :D
[10:11] <davidcalle> mandel, ping
[10:14] <mandel> davidcalle, pong!
[10:15] <davidcalle> mandel, hi. I have a Soup question you might be able to answer. When I need to set a timeout if the server takes time to answer, do I use timeout or idle_timeout?
[10:20] <mandel> davidcalle, so, idle_timeout is how long you want to keep the connection alive with the server without doing a thing, while timeout is the timeout you will have for the blocking IO
[10:20] <mandel> davidcalle, in your case you should use timeout
[10:21] <davidcalle> mandel, thanks, I wasn't sure about the difference between the two. :)
[10:22] <mandel> davidcalle, yeah, the names are confusing, idle_timeout is for long living connections, some apps need those.. which is a pita with proxy because some are configured not to let you have one
[10:23] <davidcalle> mandel, I see
[11:14] <gatox_> good morrning!
[11:27] <Chipaca> gatox: hola!
[11:28] <gatox> Chipaca, buenas
[11:32] <mandel> gatox, morning!
[11:32] <gatox> mandel, hi there!
[11:33] <gatox> mandel, congratulations about the proxy support! :P i forgot to tell you that
[11:34] <mandel> gatox, well, is just control panel, we have to do some serious work about auth proxies for sd, but we are getting there :)
[11:34] <mandel> gatox, and I'm really please that we are doing it on time hehe
[11:34] <gatox> mainerror, you have to start somewhere :P
[11:35] <mandel> gatox, autocomplete hehe
[11:35] <mandel> gatox, stop using ninja as your irc client ;)
[11:35] <gatox> OMG!! AGAIN!
[11:36] <gatox> mandel, jejejeje nono, i use xchat..... but i'm lazy and i tend to type only the first 2 chars of the name
[11:36] <mandel> gatox,  :)
[11:36] <rye> duanedesign, published the fixed maverick->lucid version to  https://launchpad.net/~rye/+archive/ubuntuone-support
[12:02] <mandel> wtf!! unity just decided to log off
[12:05] <gatox> mandel, maybe it saw you tired :P
[12:06] <mandel> gatox, hehe I don't think we are at that point yet
[12:06] <gatox> mandel, jeje
[12:09] <mandel> ok, restarting system..
[12:19] <duanedesign> you rock rte
[12:19] <duanedesign> rye*
[12:20] <rye> duanedesign, well, now I will wait for dobey to see whether it can be integrated. The thing is if it is reverted, then the nautilus will hang for 2 minutes on startup, this cannot be fixed easily, If it stays, nautilus does not hang but sd does not work if the amount of files is big
[12:28] <nessita> buen día!
[12:29] <gatox> nessita, hi
[12:29] <gatox> nessita, finishing with your review
[12:30] <nessita> gatox: how is it looking?
[12:30] <nessita> (besides long :-/)
[12:31] <gatox> nessita, fine..... i only found one thing that i would suggest to change..... do you want me to tell you here or put it as need fixing?
[12:31] <nessita> gatox: tell me, I may start working on that
[12:31] <gatox> nessita, - In setup_account_page.py you are calling self._set_line_edits_validations() inside the initializePage method, and the function "_set_line_edits_validations()" has 2 connect operations inside, that lines (the connect ones) should be moved to _connect_ui, initializePage is called every time the wizard need to show that page, and i would recommend to not make the connects there.
[12:32] <nessita> gatox: looking!
[12:32] <nessita> (it I moved that initializePage, it was not my intention)
[12:34] <gatox> nessita, it or if?
[12:34] <nessita> if :-)
[12:35] <gatox> nessita, ahhhh yes.... that's the only thing i found
[12:35] <nessita> gatox: I'm looking at my diff (with meld :-P) and self._set_line_edits_validations() was added to def _set_translated_strings(self):
[12:35] <gatox> nessita, i used meld too! :P
[12:36] <gatox> nessita, ahhhh you are right..... too many colors confuse me
[12:36] <nessita> gatox: congrats! :-D let me show you a screenshot
[12:36] <nessita> ah, you saw it already?
[12:36] <gatox> nessita, yes
[12:37] <gatox> nessita, either way....... it's not a problem of your branch because it was like this before, but i think that would be better to do all the connects, in _connect_ui
[12:37] <nessita> gatox: when doing that code, I wasn't sure if
[12:37] <nessita>         self._set_line_edits_validations()
[12:37] <nessita>         self._register_fields()
[12:37] <nessita> should go into _set_translated_strings or _connect_ui
[12:38] <nessita> gatox: I even would like to get rid of those 2 functions, and have a single _setup_page
[12:38] <nessita> gatox: that would be called from the setup_page in SSOWizardPage
[12:38] <nessita> gatox: but if I do that, branch will grow up :-/
[12:39] <gatox> nessita, yes... i'm not sure about putting everythingg together..... it's easy to read if you can identify clearly the scope of each function
[12:40] <gatox> some classes has little code in there, but for example setup_account has a couple of lines
[12:40] <nessita> gatox: yes, that also... anyways, another thing I was in doubt was that
[12:40] <nessita>         title_page = TITLE_STYLE % TITLE.format(app_name=self.app_name)
[12:40] <nessita>         self.setTitle(title_page)
[12:40] <nessita>         self.setSubTitle(self.help_text)
[12:40] <nessita> should not be called in initializePage... what do you think?
[12:41] <gatox> nessita, mmmm if exist the chance that someone is going to do: setup_accont.app_name = "something else"; move_to_setup_account
[12:41] <gatox> yes
[12:42] <gatox> if not..... it's not necessary
[12:42] <gatox> i  mean
[12:42] <nessita> the app_name should never ever change :-) but I will not change that in this branch
[12:43] <gatox> if that text could change during the execution of the same application, and we need that to be refresh just in case every time that page is shown, yes.....  but in any other case, i would leave that in the __init__ or any inialization method and execute it only once
[12:44] <gatox> that's my opinionn
[12:44] <nessita> I understand
[12:44] <nessita> gatox: another thign I just see and is very wrong (and is causing a bug assigned to High to you) is this:
[12:44] <nessita>         self.set_up_button.clicked.connect(self.overlay.show)
[12:44] <nessita>         self.set_up_button.clicked.connect(self.set_next_validation)
[12:44] <nessita> inside initializePage
[12:45] <gatox> nessita, yes, that is not going to connect several times the same signal..... but i prefer to avoid that anyway
[12:46] <nessita> gatox: but it also wrong that both self.overlay.show and self.set_next_validation are connected to self.set_up_button.clicked
[12:46] <nessita> only the first one should
[12:46] <nessita> and on_user_registered should do self.set_next_validation
[12:47] <gatox> nessita, ahhhh.... i understand
[12:47] <nessita> gatox: that's causing bug #934502
[12:48] <nessita> gatox: there is no need to do all the setup for the self.set_up_button there, right? that could be done in _connect_ui, no?
[12:49] <gatox> nessita, yes
[12:49] <nessita> ack, thanks!
[12:53] <gatox> nessita, review please https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/uife-padding/+merge/94450
[12:58] <mandel> I think we should switch to php.. https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61095
[13:00] <nessita> gatox: yes!
[13:00] <nessita> mandel: hola! I started doing reviews for you last night... added a comment to the first one
[13:00] <mandel> nessita, sweet, let me take a look
[13:01] <nessita> mandel: is trivial, I must confess I saw that and stopped (it was very late here, will continue now)
[13:01] <mandel> nessita, no worries, I'm happy you saw that and wrote the comment :)
[13:01] <mandel> nessita, I hate to leave #HACK comments around..
[13:15] <nessita> ralsina: got my email for the review?
[13:25] <alecu> hello!
[13:25] <nessita> hola alecu
[13:41] <nessita> mandel: ping
[13:41] <mandel> nessita, pong
[13:42] <nessita> mandel: can you please mark all the strings in https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/ssl-dialog/+merge/94012 to not be translated? so the  generated method retranslateUi is empty, like in the rest of the uis
[13:43] <nessita> mandel: after my fix to the strings every method in the _ui.py file has this:
[13:43] <nessita>      66     def retranslateUi(self, Form):
[13:43] <mandel> nessita, sure, sorry this was an old branch, let me fix that
[13:43] <nessita>      67         pass
[13:43] <nessita> thanks!
[13:43] <mandel> nessita, quick errands and I'm on that (3 min)
[13:43] <nessita> mandel: no rush
[13:44]  * nessita will make some mate
[13:57] <dobey> neats a preview
[13:57] <dobey> rye: revert what?
[13:59] <rye> dobey, UniqueInterface in maverick was added to allow syncdaemon start w/o being noticed by nautilus plugin. When plugin saw syncdaemon on the bus, it started communicated with the latter. In case metadata loading was long, nautilus and desktop was hanging waiting for the response.
[13:59] <rye> dobey, but it turned out that dbus waits only for 2 minutes for the autostarted app to claim the required bus name and it kills it after that
[14:00] <dobey> ok
[14:21] <nessita> mandel: question when you get back
[14:21] <nessita> are we still ralsinaless?
[14:24] <dobey> you'll have to ask ralsina
[14:25] <ralsina> good morning!
[14:25] <ralsina> You are now ralsinafull
[14:27] <nessita> ralsina: hola! everything ok?
[14:28] <nessita> (besides kid-schedule-issues)
[14:29] <ralsina> nessita: just a lot of kid-related scheduling issues
[14:29] <ralsina> nessita: but have no more of those starting today :-)
[14:30] <nessita> nice
[14:31] <ralsina> nessita: I started the monster review, but I am not finished yet
[14:31] <nessita> ralsina: hey! is not monster
[14:31] <nessita> most of that is red@!
[14:31] <nessita> :-)
[14:31] <ralsina> nessita: yeah, we are supposed to read the red parts too! ;-)
[14:32]  * nessita looks at her branch with care and tells to it "you're not a monster"
[14:32] <ralsina> nessita: mostly trying to understand where everything went
[14:33] <nessita> ralsina: to a common place. A little info: I removed no code at all (except for the first "choose sign in" screen), all the red went to a common class as a little green. We had a lot of duplication...
[14:33] <ralsina> nessita: yes, I am checking that it was really all the same code, just in case
[14:33] <nessita> perfect
[14:48] <joshuahoover> ralsina: if you can, i'd like you around in #ubuntu-meeting at 16:00 utc ...i'll kick things off and point out the freeze exceptions but if there are specific tech questions that come up it would be good to have you or someone from desktop+ there to help answer :)
[14:49] <ralsina> joshuahoover: sure!
[14:49] <ralsina> dobey, nessita, please hang around as well if you can just in case ;-)
[14:49] <alecu> joshuahoover, I can join too
[14:49] <joshuahoover> alecu: cool, the more the merrier ;)
[14:51] <nessita> going
[14:52] <dobey> ok
[14:59] <nessita> me
[14:59] <gatox> me
[14:59] <alecu> nessita, dobey: after the standup I'd like to ask you both on your input on how to add qt4reactor based tests to u1-client
[14:59] <alecu> me
[14:59] <briancurtin> me
[15:00] <dobey> meh
[15:00] <nessita> alecu: ack (though my first reaction was "don't, let's have integration tests somewhere else" :-P)
[15:00] <nessita> ralsina, mandel?
[15:00] <mandel> me
[15:00] <mandel> nessita, and back, sorry there was a huge q in the bank,,
[15:01] <nessita> mandel: ack, after the standup let's talk about your ssl-dialog branch
[15:01] <nessita> ok, I guess ralsina will join us
[15:01] <nessita> DONE: weekly call, fixed bug #939173 and uploaded a patch to Ubuntu, proposed branch for ussoc's part of bug #933576
[15:01] <nessita> TODO: branch to fix u1cp of bug #933576, reviews
[15:01] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[15:01] <nessita> NEXT: gatox
[15:01] <gatox> DONE:
[15:01] <gatox> Proposed padding and sizes branch for SSO, and apply some refactor to that. Review nessita's branch. Working on Bug #938604.
[15:01] <gatox> TODO:
[15:01] <gatox> Finish with Bug #938604.
[15:01] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:01] <gatox> No
[15:01] <gatox> alecu, please
[15:01] <ralsina> me
[15:01] <mandel> nessita, sure
[15:02] <gatox> alecu, ?
[15:02] <alecu> DONE: pipelined tunnel client and server branches, initial cleanup
[15:02] <alecu> TODO: more cleanup, propose for merge, still bug #929207
[15:02] <alecu> BLOCKED: need to add qt4reactor based tests to SD
[15:02] <alecu> NEXT: briancurtin
[15:02] <briancurtin> DONE: proposed notification branch, started on fixing Windows' read_link
[15:02] <briancurtin> TODO: read_link, any reviews i can chime in on
[15:02] <briancurtin> BLOCKED: nada
[15:02] <briancurtin> NEXT: dobey
[15:02] <dobey> λ DONE: finished releases, team call, bug #939691, bug #867803
[15:02] <dobey> λ TODO: finish releases, deal with some twisted upstream stuff
[15:02] <dobey> λ BLCK: none.
[15:03] <dobey> mandel
[15:03] <mandel> DONE: Read about SSL certificates. How do I get the errors from libsoup and qnetwork. Some FF work.
[15:03] <mandel> TODO: Update ssl cert branch to not translate QDesigner text. Some work in FF and a windows file system notifications issue.
[15:03] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[15:03] <mandel> ralsina, please
[15:03] <ralsina> DONE: fixed minor network detection bug, team call, read about Mac development, calls, kid-issues TODO: fix a few bugs, misc BLOCKED: no
[15:03] <dobey> oops
[15:03] <ralsina> also DONE: gave a bit of a hand in a couple of Qt-related things to dobey and nessita (yay, felt smart for 15 minutes!)
[15:04] <mandel> ralsina, and 1-1 with manuel :)
[15:04] <mandel> for the todo I mean :P
[15:04] <nessita> ralsina: and with nessita
[15:04] <nessita> :-)
[15:04] <nessita> any comments anyone?
[15:04] <ralsina> mandel: and that. And with alecu. and nessita. All of you were in "calls" :-)
[15:04] <nessita> alecu, mandel: will join mumble to discuss all those stuff in 5 minutes
[15:04] <gatox> EOM?
[15:05] <ralsina> EOM!
[15:05] <dobey> ralsina: when is our 1-1 supposed to be exactly?
[15:05] <mandel> nessita, , all those stuff means?
[15:05] <gatox> So, Start of Lunch for me :P
[15:05]  * gatox lunch
[15:05] <ralsina> dobey: let me check
[15:05]  * alecu is at a loss regarding "all those stuff", too.
[15:05] <alecu> nessita, ^
[15:05] <ralsina> dobey: yesterday :-)
[15:06]  * mandel joins mumble nevertheless
[15:06] <dobey> ralsina: right; but i'm pretty sure i didn't agree to the time that the calendar thinks it is
[15:06] <ralsina> dobey: re-schedule at will
[15:07] <nessita> mandel: all those stuff == your branch
[15:07] <dobey> because i don't generally agree to things being that early, especially if they recur weekly :)
[15:07] <nessita> alecu: all those stuff == the qt4reactor in u1client
[15:08] <dobey> qt in u1client is going to be a problem.
[15:08] <ralsina> dobey: ok then, choose any time I am marked as free, and it's yours
[15:08] <dobey> ralsina: you have free time? surely you jest
[15:08] <alecu> dobey: I figured that it would be a problem.
[15:08] <ralsina> dobey: I have time marked as free, it's similar.
[15:09] <dobey> alecu: a problem in regards to ubuntu i mean. whether or not we run qtreactor based tests isn't really a problem so much
[15:10] <dobey> but pulling ubuntuone-client off the CD will not be fun
[15:12] <alecu> dobey: I think we can manage qt as an optional dependency; so if pyqt is not installed then the proxy support is not used.
[15:12] <mandel> nessita, screen-shots: http://ubuntuone.com/4ryoeN4idT7WvdlkinX7XB http://ubuntuone.com/6AkotJRrh6AAPiWrTls6iQ
[15:12] <mandel> nessita, that is opened dialog and closed
[15:13] <alecu> dobey: can you join mumble, please? we are with nessita discussing this.
[15:13] <nessita> dobey: could you join us in mumble? alecu is explaining why he needs this
[15:26] <mandel> nessita, branch updated
[15:27] <mandel> ralsina, 1-1?
[15:29] <ralsina> mandel: in 15
[15:29] <mandel> sure
[15:32] <nessita> ralsina: I'm mumbe, let me know when is my turn :-P
[15:32] <ralsina> nessita: mandel, then you, so maybe in 30 or so
[15:32] <nessita> no prob
[15:32] <mandel> nessita, we are all waiting in mumble for him hahaha
[15:33] <nessita> gatox: ping, Why you removed the PASSWORD_HELP constant from ubuntu_sso/qt/setup_account_page.py ?
[15:33] <nessita> ah, was duplicated :-)
[15:33] <nessita> gatox: unping
[15:33] <gatox> nessita, ye
[15:33] <nessita> gatox: well, ping again
[15:33] <nessita> the one you should remove is the second one
[15:33] <gatox> nessita, what happend?
[15:34] <nessita> so the constants get alphabetically ordered
[15:34] <nessita> I guess.
[15:34] <nessita> though I'm not sure :-/
[15:34] <gatox> nessita, i let you choose :P
[15:34] <nessita> gatox: leave it like that
[15:34] <gatox> nessita, ok
[15:36] <nessita> gatox: looks good!
[15:36] <mainerror> gatox lol mate. :D
[15:36] <gatox> mainerror, sorry.... really sorry :P
[15:37] <gatox> hehe
[15:37] <mainerror> No problem. It is kinda funny. :D
[15:38] <mandel> gatox, was that for me?
[15:38] <gatox> mandel, hehe no, it was for the real mainerror
[15:38] <mandel> ok, 'cause I added an alarm for his nickname in my client just in case hehe
[15:38] <gatox> hehehehe
[15:39] <mainerror> rofls
[15:42] <ralsina> finally: mandel, 1-1
[15:43] <ralsina> mandel: can't hear you
[15:43] <mandel> ralsina, weird, I just had a chat with nessita and alecu with no problems..
[15:43] <mandel> ralsina, I did not understand a word..
[15:44] <ralsina> argh
[15:44] <mandel> ralsina, you sound like one of those little robots from doctor who
[15:44] <ralsina> EXTERMINATE!
[15:47] <dobey> mandel: dalkes?
[15:55] <ralsina> nessita: 1-1 when you want
[16:03] <joshuahoover> dobey: any word on bug #939797 getting in for beta1?
[16:04] <joshuahoover> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-installer/+bug/939797
[16:04] <dobey> joshuahoover: not yet. haven't figured it out yet.
[16:04] <dobey> it's pretty odd
[16:04] <dobey> might be a bug in aptdaemon even
[16:04] <joshuahoover> dobey: weird
[16:09] <dobey> alecu: haha
[16:10] <dobey> joshuahoover: hopefully i can figure it out today, or monday at latest.
[16:10] <joshuahoover> dobey: k, thanks
[16:14] <dobey> gatox: btw, have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/939869 ?
[16:15] <gatox> dobey, that is already fixed
[16:15] <dobey> gatox: i knew you were working on it, and thought you already had a bug for it. which is why i'm pinging you with it :)
[16:15] <gatox> dobey, ah, but that is control panel
[16:16] <gatox> nessita, ^
[16:16] <gatox> that will need styling in the control panel
[16:16] <nessita> looking
[16:16] <gatox> now the padding is added to the style of sso
[16:16] <gatox> if we are going to use the same frame for sso, problem solved
[16:16] <nessita> gatox: no, we're not...
[16:16] <gatox> if we are going to take only the wizard from sso and put it in control panel, a styling is needed
[16:17] <nessita> dobey, gatox: this is the design we have for windows as well.... and we have no task in the roadmap to change this
[16:17] <gatox> ack
[16:17] <nessita> gatox: this is related to the "Account info" tab, no sso involved
[16:17] <gatox> ah ok
[16:17] <nessita> is the same styling as we had before, nothing changed in that front
[16:18] <dobey> ah ok
[16:18] <dobey> i thought you were fixing cp as well
[16:18] <nessita> I can guess people will complain a lot about different things in that panel... anyways, my plan is to gather all those bugs reports, put together in a documents with screenshots from all platforms, and take to our design team
[16:19] <dobey> sure. i will complain a lot :)
[16:19] <nessita> I think we need to review the whole Qt controlpanel design, which is not trivial not quick, so we need to start kicking that process
[16:19] <nessita> dobey: I don't expect less from you ;-)
[16:25] <dobey> ok i should get some lunch, and do yet more debugging of aptdaemon afterward :-/
[16:26] <dobey> bbiab
[16:38] <nessita> ralsina: can a window set as transient of another x window id in Qt?
[16:38] <ralsina> nessita: good question. I am weak in answering it though! Give me 1' to check
[16:38] <nessita> sure!
[16:44] <ralsina> nessita: looks like no
[16:45] <nessita> buuuu. But thanks!
[16:45] <ralsina> nessita: you may haveto set the WM_TRANSIENT_FOR XAtom manually
[16:46] <ralsina> nessita: ugly hack: xprop -set WM_TRANSIENT_FOR abcdfgh
[16:46] <ralsina> -id lkjhgf
[16:46] <ralsina> but yuck
[16:47] <nessita> yuck indeed
[16:51] <ralsina> nessita: the Xlib needed to do it is not terribly complicated, and is doable via ctypes
[16:51] <nessita> ralsina: have an example?
[16:51] <ralsina> nessita: let me check
[16:54] <ralsina> nessita: all the examples I see of similar things are done using python-xlib
[17:02] <lamalex> hi, im trying to save a note in the web interface but the save button doesn't work!
[17:02] <lamalex> cancel works just fine though
[17:03] <lamalex> ok it works for editing an old note
[17:11] <nessita> ralsina, joshuahoover: did online services already happened in the ubuntu-meeting?
[17:11] <ralsina> nessita: if it did I missed it
[17:11] <nessita> me too
[17:11] <nessita> I've been reading lots of boring stuff
[17:12] <nessita> waiting for our turn :-D
[17:13] <joshuahoover> nessita: yeah, not sure...seems we got overlooked somehow
[17:13] <nessita> joshuahoover: would you ping or we're better like that? :-P
[17:14] <joshuahoover> nessita: i sent out an email with FEs and the bug about u1-installer so there's nothing new there: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000876.html
[17:14]  * joshuahoover needs to remember to copy ubunet on that
[17:14] <nessita> ok then
[17:14] <joshuahoover> nessita: i thought they'd REALLY want to chat with us today after we dropped 14 FEs on them the past 2 weeks
[17:14] <nessita> gatox: I noticed that since you branch landed, the qt sso is not longer centered on the screen
[17:15] <nessita> joshuahoover: I guess they forgot
[17:15] <joshuahoover> nessita: or they removed us from the distro ;)
[17:15] <nessita> gatox: can we do something about that?
[17:15] <nessita> joshuahoover: ah, yes, that too :-D
[17:15] <dobey> oh right; totaly forgot aobut ubuntu-meeting
[17:15] <gatox> nessita, did you put some code to do that and it was reverted?
[17:15] <nessita> dobey: they no longer care about us :-D
[17:15] <ralsina> nessita: you are going to love the branch I am doing. I am adding tests for arg parsing in u1cp and fixing two bugs at the same time ;-)
[17:15] <nessita> gatox: not that I'm aware of
[17:15] <nessita> ralsina: YEY
[17:16] <dobey> oh well :P
[17:16] <ralsina> nessita: maybe 3, because we are not supporting switch_to in the Qt frontend
[17:16] <nessita> nice
[17:16] <gatox> nessita, so, it was centered just by luck :P because there wasn't code for that..... i'll add that to the sso branch i'm working on right now
[17:17] <nessita> gatox: thanks! please use this bug for that bug #934173
[17:18] <gatox> ack
[17:19]  * dobey wouldn't mind being in spain next week
[17:21] <nessita> dobey: we're sptrinting to spain next week? :-D
[17:21] <briancurtin> i don't know if i can run that far
[17:21] <dobey> joshuahoover: hrmm, i think we might need a UIFe for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox-ubuntuone/+bug/933010 ; it's a regression, but the (full and proper) fix will introduce a new string
[17:22] <dobey> nessita: i wish
[17:22]  * nessita whishes too
[17:22] <nessita> ok, I will have lunch
[17:22] <joshuahoover> dobey: i was hoping you would say that...14 FEs was kind of an odd number ;)
[17:23] <nessita> joshuahoover: let's add UIFe until we get a prime number
[17:23] <nessita> prime numbers are interesting
[17:23] <dobey> joshuahoover: well i can do it without marking the string for translation as well. it's fine by me :)
[17:23] <joshuahoover> nessita: good idea!
[17:23] <joshuahoover> dobey: heh
[17:23] <joshuahoover> dobey: do you know what text change(s) will need to be made?
[17:23] <dobey> is infinity a prime number?
[17:24] <nessita> dobey: no, is even, clearly (?)
[17:24] <ralsina> dobey: no
[17:24] <nessita> gatox, ralsina: branch https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/use-login-only/+merge/94455 is now updated from trunk, would you please finish the review when you have a chance?
[17:24] <ralsina> dobey: infinityis divisible by any integer, so it's *very* not prime
[17:24] <dobey> joshuahoover: it's not a change, but a new string. we need to add a .desktop file
[17:24] <gatox> nessita, ok
[17:24] <nessita> I will have lunch now!
[17:24] <dobey> ralsina: it's only divisible by itself and 1 :)
[17:25] <ralsina> nessita: +1 I had finished itandforgot tocomment
[17:25] <joshuahoover> dobey: k, if you think we need it to fix that bug properly, can you update the description with details on that and i'll take it from there
[17:25] <dobey> ok
[17:25] <ralsina> dobey: nope.
[17:25] <ralsina> dobey: consider the set of integer numbers. It's obviously possible to divide it in2, orin 3
[17:25] <dobey> ralsina: infinity always represents the next prime number higher than the value you think it has :)
[17:25] <ralsina> dobey: So, if by infinity you meant Aleph(0), not prime ;-)
[17:26] <nessita> gatox: please make sure to have the revno 899
[17:26] <ralsina> dobey: divisibility is a matter of cardinality, so no ;-)
[17:26]  * ralsina stops arguing
[17:26] <ralsina> dobey: is --help output covered by string freeze?
[17:28] <dobey> yes (and/or feature freeze)
[17:29] <ralsina> dobey: ok, so there is another exception for u1cp
[17:30] <ralsina> sigh
[17:30] <dobey> eh?
[17:30] <dobey> are you fixing it to do the right thing for arg parsing?
[17:30] <ralsina> dobey: ubuntuone-control-panel-qt --help is completely wrong
[17:31] <ralsina> dobey: I am fixing a bug where it ignored Qt arguments (like -style or whatever) that was needed for QA
[17:31] <ralsina> dobey: also, I noticed it ignores --switch-to and --alert
[17:31] <dobey> right
[17:31] <ralsina> dobey: also, the help of --switch-to is wrong
[17:33] <dobey> altø altø wik
[17:33]  * elopio goes to buy the beer for ralsina.
[17:33] <dobey> beware the møøse
[17:50] <mandel> gatox, ninja does no support proxies!
[17:51] <gatox> mandel, hehehehe..... you win there
[17:51] <mandel> gatox, it should not be a problem, I mean, if you cannot connect to the internet my ide should not block, atm is in the loading thing..
[17:52] <gatox> mandel, what? are you using ninja and it gets block at loading?
[17:52] <dobey> does it handle unicode properly though?
[17:53] <mandel> gatox, yes... and I have to kill it from the process explorer
[17:53] <gatox> dobey, YES! :P (in most situations.... not the crazy hacks for windows)
[17:54] <gatox> mandel, weird..... i'll test that later
[17:54] <mandel> gatox, where do you keep logs?
[17:54] <mandel> gatox, so I can give you some info
[17:55] <gatox> mandel, na.... the logs doesn't have very useful information..... only the things from the plugins are being logged..... we need to improve that
[17:55] <mandel> gatox, ok, look at when ever you get a connection to the outside world and there is the problem
[17:56] <gatox> mandel, ok..... we are going to have a minisprint tomorrow..... so between today and tomorrow i'll test that
[17:57] <gatox> mandel, thanks for the heads up
[17:59] <mandel> gatox, no problem, if you need any help with it let me know
[17:59] <gatox> mandel, ok, thanks!
[18:00] <mandel> gatox, is probably picking the system proxy settings and not handeling the 407 correctly
[18:09] <mandel> EOW for me, see you all!
[18:09] <gatox> mandel, bye!
[18:09] <ralsina> bye mandel!
[18:13] <nessita> bye mandel
[18:16] <Chipaca> ttyl, all
[18:20] <ralsina> nessita, gatox, dobey: maybe a couple of reviews? https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-control-panel/opt-parsing/+merge/94599
[18:20] <nessita> ralsina: ack
[18:21] <gatox> yes
[18:22] <dobey> ralsina: i guess it needs ffe right?
[18:22] <ralsina> dobey: this one looks like a plain bug to me
[18:22] <ralsina> dobey: it doesn't fix the broken options
[18:22] <ralsina> dobey: it just makesithandleonesit should already handlebefore
[18:23] <ralsina> argh, damn spacebar I HATE YOU
[18:23] <dobey> ok; the bugs need to be marked as affecting the ubuntu packages, and targeted to the trunk and stable-3-0 series for the project, and precise for the package
[18:24] <ralsina> dobey: ok, will do it now
[18:24] <dobey> also, i have https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-installer/fix-939797/+merge/94598 just now; which joshuahoover will love :)
[18:24] <ralsina> dobey: trade you! ;-)
[18:24] <joshuahoover> :)
[18:25] <dobey> ralsina: fix your bug targets :)
[18:25] <ralsina> dobey: I am doing it now
[18:27] <ralsina> dobey: so, it should affect distribution ubuntuone-control-panel (ubuntu)?
[18:27] <ralsina> And series precise?
[18:28] <ralsina> dobey: take a look at bug #910834 and tell me if I missed anything please, since I never did this before :-)
[18:32] <dobey> ralsina: yep, that's right
[18:32] <ralsina> dobey: cool, thanks, doing the other bug then
[18:35] <ralsina> dobey: I feel stupid, but I don't have a stable-3 series offered in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-control-panel/+bug/938102
[18:36] <ralsina> Oh, ok, it only offers the series for the last project!
[18:37] <ralsina> And now Ihave all the series to nominate EXCEPT P
[18:37]  * ralsina goes burn launchpad, brb
[18:38] <ralsina> Ok, it nominated itself WTF
[18:38] <ralsina> whatever, done
[18:39] <ralsina> dobey: +1 code review because I can't test that IRL right now
[18:39] <dobey> ralsina: yeah, lp is annoying sometimes in that regard :)
[18:39] <ralsina> dobey: in any case, it seems to be pointed/targeted/nominated/offered/candidated/annointed in all the right clubs now ;-)
[18:41] <nessita> can I haz reviews? https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/fallback-to-gtk/+merge/94601
[18:42] <dobey> ralsina: humm. does the branch even fix the second bug?
[18:44] <dobey> hrmm, i guess so
[18:46] <ralsina> dobey: yes
[18:46] <ralsina> dobey: it's a subtle fix ;-)
[18:46] <dobey> wow. --with-icon really should be disabled on linux :)
[18:46] <ralsina> dobey: no, please. It's useful on KDE ;-)\
[18:47] <dobey> you shouldn't be using kde
[18:47] <dobey> you should be using unity
[18:47] <ralsina> dobey: plus, I want to use it as a playground for indicator work
[18:47] <nessita> ralsina: after the sso branch, would you review https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/use-sso-qt/+merge/92632 ?
[18:47] <nessita> dobey: please take notes that in the next release, u1client 2.99.90 must depend on ussoc 2.99.90 (because of the UI fallbacking if the Qt UI is not available)
[18:47] <ralsina> nessita: sure
[18:47] <ralsina> nessita: I already did the SSO branch, if we are talking of the large one
[18:48] <nessita> ralsina: no, the one I pasted a couple of mins ago: https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/fallback-to-gtk/+merge/94601
[18:48] <ralsina> nessita: ok, missed that one
[18:48] <nessita> is 84 diff line!
[18:48] <ralsina> nessita: ok :-)
[18:48] <nessita> ralsina: to compensate ;-)
[18:51] <nessita> ralsina: any chance you migrate to argparse while you're at that branch?
[18:52] <ralsina> nessita: sure!
[18:52]  * ralsina has no idea how to use argparse
[18:53] <nessita> ralsina: should be simple, you can check out ussoc-gtk and ussoc-qt for reference
[18:53] <nessita> ralsina: thing is that optparse is deprecated, afaik
[18:53] <ralsina> nessita: sure, will doit asap
[18:53] <nessita> no rush
[18:54] <briancurtin> optparse is deprecated only that it is no longer recommended, but it wont be removed (maybe in python 4?)
[18:54] <briancurtin> but argparse is nice
[18:58] <ralsina> briancurtin: let's futureproof this baby for 2050 then! ;-)
[19:00] <dobey> ralsina: so remove all the arguments, and just replace it with "import skynet" ?
[19:00] <ralsina> dobey: #!/bin/skynet -c "sync my files,please"
[19:02] <dobey> "die human."
[19:03] <ralsina> nonono, skynet, I said "sync"! Retry!
[19:13] <ralsina> nessita: typo in line 80 of the diff, other than that, nice!
[19:14] <ralsina> nessita: in fallback-to-gtk
[19:14] <nessita> loooooking
[19:16] <nessita> ralsina: typo "fixied"
[19:16] <ralsina> nessita: +1d already :-)
[19:16] <nessita> nice
[19:17] <nessita> dobey: would you please review that? (https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntu-sso-client/fallback-to-gtk/+merge/94601)
[19:37] <ralsina> nessita: updated opt-parsing with argparse (which works remarkably similar to OptParser, to be honest)
[19:37] <nessita> ralsina: nice!
[19:39] <dobey> nessita: needs a couple of english fixes
[19:39] <nessita> dobey: ack
[19:39] <ralsina> "the english fix" sounds like a very boring drug name.
[19:39] <ralsina> Or brit-pop band.
[19:39] <nessita> dobey: nice correction! though I liked my invention fallbacking
[19:39] <nessita> :-D
[19:43] <dobey> heh
[19:43] <dobey> ralsina: it's the prequel to "the french connection"
[19:43] <nessita> dobey: all fixed and pushed to revno 893.
[19:45] <ralsina> dobey: the string freeze is even if the strings are not translatable?
[19:46] <ralsina> dobey: that's about the --help
[19:50] <dobey> ralsina: if they're not translated then you're probably fine; though changing the help options would be an api or ui change still; maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-release
[19:50] <ralsina> dobey: cool, thanks
[19:51] <dobey> oh man
[19:51] <dobey> a 6 character change, and the qt control panel looks like 20x better
[19:51] <dobey> at least, on default ubuntu theme it does
[19:51] <ralsina> dobey: really? which one? :-)
[19:51] <ralsina> rm -rf ./?
[19:52] <dobey> -    background-color: #aea79f;
[19:52] <dobey> +    background-color: #3c3b37;
[19:52] <ralsina> oh, that's 7
[19:52] <nessita> ralsina: so, I can't run the test as the branch is, I'm getting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/855751/. I know if I setup.py build it gets fixed, but run-tests should work from scratch. And the setup.py build should only be called before the qt tests (where is now). Would you please debug why I'm getting this "new" failure?
[19:53] <ralsina> nessita: sure, I do have it builtso I didn't see it
[19:53] <ralsina> nessita: I moved a delayed import out of main()
[19:53] <ralsina> nessita: I will move it back in (sigh)
[19:53] <nessita> dobey: +100. Would you ping the design people about this?
[19:54] <dobey> nessita: english fixes approved :)
[19:54] <nessita> yey
[19:55] <nessita> dobey, ralsina: http://ubuntuone.com/1lVbN6HjbyyO7blROfk0rg from the branch I'm proposing soon
[19:55] <ralsina> nessita: not bad!
[19:56] <nessita> actually, much better
[19:56] <dobey> nessita: what is that?
[19:56] <nessita> dobey: wanna file  bug, so we run it by cparrino and rtgrant, and then we may ask the UIFe?
[19:57] <nessita> dobey: the controlpanel's new first screen (current first screen has no option for register. Yes, we have an approved UIFe for this)
[19:57] <ralsina> nessita: I would hide the3rd button
[19:57] <ralsina> nessita: and have the user just close the window. But that's just personal taste
[19:57] <nessita> ralsina: why? (and maybe, but I guess we need a complete design-review on that)
[19:58] <dobey> nessita: that shows up always if the token gets deleted or they haven't set up u1 yet?
[19:58] <nessita> ralsina: this is taken from the installer... I would prefer not changing the current design
[19:58] <ralsina> nessita: because it's just a "close this window" button and those are usually a bad idea. Agreed on not doing it, though.
[19:58] <nessita> dobey: yes (I know you'll complain about the "Ubuntu One has installed")
[19:58] <ralsina> dobey: if there is no token
[19:58] <dobey> nessita: yes :)
[19:59] <dobey> i do not like that at all
[19:59] <nessita> dobey: I'm not sure about that either (is in the original mocks). But is also true that that screen will be shown after installation
[19:59] <dobey> and it is confusing
[19:59] <nessita> dobey: yeah, may be
[19:59] <ralsina> nessita, dobey: and talking about logging in, someday we have to make it so ROOT_MISMATCH doesn't happen or gives a friendly warning or something.
[19:59] <nessita> ralsina: add that to the roadmap, make room for it, and you got it :-D
[19:59] <ralsina> nessita: I think that is one of the copy changes we should ask about. Makes no sense on linux
[20:00] <nessita> ralsina: well, if the user just installed U1 from the installer... it might, no?
[20:00] <ralsina> nessita: we are close to the end of our current roadmap! There is a whole lot of space after that! ;-)
[20:00] <ralsina> nessita: yes, but we have no way to know if that's the case
[20:00] <dobey> and it's all full of turtles
[20:00] <nessita> ralsina: and I bet parrino already has some crazy tasks for that :-P
[20:00] <dobey> turtles all the way down
[20:00] <nessita> ralsina: we could if the installer runs the controlpanel with --installed
[20:00] <ralsina> nessita: our next task is the always glamorous backport effort ;-)
[20:01] <nessita> but that will require an exception, I'd guess
[20:01] <ralsina> nessita: yes, option controlpanel doesn't have and we need a FFe for
[20:01] <nessita> right
[20:01] <dobey> ralsina: like i said; turtles.
[20:01] <nessita> ok, so, summing up:
[20:01] <ralsina> nessita: OTOH, we could fix the --help in the same FFe ;-)
[20:01]  * nessita removes the "has installed blah blah" string
[20:01] <ralsina> yes
[20:02] <dobey> nessita: or just change it to "Welcome to Ubuntu One." or something
[20:02] <nessita> dobey files the bug for the UIFe to change the background color to present to bosses
[20:02] <nessita> dobey: yes, like in the current GTK one
[20:02] <dobey> nessita: and center it, because it looks really weird being the only thing left aligned
[20:02] <ralsina> also, padding
[20:02] <nessita> dobey: I was thinking on padding... not center
[20:02] <nessita> center will be "too much" (image is centered, buttons are also...)
[20:02] <dobey> there is way too much whitespace in that window
[20:03] <nessita> yes
[20:03] <ralsina> centered would be better than stuck left. Padding at least
[20:03] <ralsina> ask design for quick input
[20:03] <nessita> yes, I will take some screenshots of this and will email the peopl
[20:03] <nessita> e
[20:04] <nessita> too many teaks to make
[20:04] <ralsina> yep
[20:04] <nessita> also, the orange looks different
[20:04] <nessita> (comparing images vs button)
[20:04] <ralsina> also, are the twitter andacebook buttons misaligned or they just look that way because of the colors?
[20:04] <ralsina> the button is a gradient, it will always look lighter
[20:04] <nessita> ralsina: the latter, I'd guess
[20:05] <nessita> ralsina: I have no changed that at all (facebook and twitter links)
[20:05] <nessita> buttons*
[20:05] <ralsina> amazing how the twitter/facebook logos are vertical mirror images of each other
[20:06] <ralsina> That page looks like a robot's face
[20:06] <dobey> haha
[20:08] <dobey> ralsina: yeah, xmag shows the follow icons are same size
[20:08] <ralsina> nessita: in my options branch: if I move the "import start" into the main(), I will have to remove a couple of tests. Maybe I should try to see why importing that module breaks the tests instead?
[20:08] <nessita> ralsina: sure!
[20:08] <nessita> dobey: since you're in such a good mood, would you also please? (last one of the week I swear) https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/use-sso-qt/+merge/92632
[20:09] <dobey> nessita: didn't you already change DEBUG to be U1_DEBUG there?
[20:09] <nessita> dobey: no :-/
[20:10] <nessita> dobey: well, yes, but in that branch, which I had on hold for more than a week now
[20:11] <gatox> nessita, ralsina i've proposed this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/show-errors/+merge/94617
[20:11] <gatox> whenever you can
[20:11] <nessita> ack
[20:12] <dobey> joshuahoover: btw, the installer fix is uploaded, and just waiting approval now
[20:12] <joshuahoover> dobey: excellent
[20:15] <ralsina> nessita: it's either move "from ubuntuone.controlpanel.gui.qt.ui import mainwindow_ui" or moving "from ubuntuone.controlpanel.gui.qt.gui import start " into one. Doing the second means losing a little bit of test coverage. The first one has no side effects AFAICS.
[20:15] <ralsina> I mean "move one of those into a function"
[20:16] <gatox> EOW here!
[20:17] <gatox> bye people
[20:17] <ralsina> Or put one import in a try/except so it doesn't fail when we didn't do a build
[20:17] <ralsina> bye gatox!
[20:18] <gatox> ralsina, see you later
[20:19] <ralsina> nessita: or, do the build before running the tests
[20:20] <dobey> sigh; more bugs i need to file it seems :(
[20:20] <dobey> ralsina: ./run-tests does the build before running the tests
[20:21] <nessita> ralsina: perhaps we're not ignoring the qt properly?
[20:21] <nessita> the qt part*
[20:21] <ralsina> nessita: could be
[20:22] <ralsina> the test is in ubuntuone/controlpanel/gui/qt/main/tests/test_main.py maybe I should rename it or change the ignores
[20:23] <ralsina> nessita: right, that is not in QT_TESTS
[20:23] <ralsina> QT_TESTS_PATH
[20:34] <nessita> ralsina: so, is fixable? :-)
[20:34] <ralsina> nessita: thinking about it because it's working for me when I try to debug run-tests :-)
[20:35] <nessita> ralsina: what id you do ./setup.py clean before that
[20:35] <ralsina> nessita: yep
[20:35] <dobey> joshuahoover: do i need to update the description too, or is comment good enough?
[20:35] <ralsina> but trying again, it's late and may have had a senior moment
[20:35] <briancurtin> i wish we used filesystem links rather than shell links on windows :/
[20:35] <joshuahoover> dobey: comment should be good enough
[20:35] <ralsina> briancurtin: feel free :-)
[20:36] <dobey> joshuahoover: cool. just added that
[20:36] <ralsina> briancurtin: that is probably just our ignorance showing
[20:36] <briancurtin> ralsina: we'll still have to support shell links which were previously created, but i might propose to move away
[20:36] <ralsina> briancurtin: we may even change/fix those links on startup if needed
[20:37] <ralsina> briancurtin: or on installation of upgrade
[20:37] <briancurtin> good point
[20:37] <joshuahoover> dobey: thanks
[20:43] <ralsina> nessita: could you try running the tests again with revno 274? They like, totally pass for me
[20:43] <nessita> ralsina: sure!
[20:55] <nessita> ralsina: nopes, is not working
[20:55] <nessita> ralsina: what if you branch from scratch?
[20:55] <ralsina> nessita: grmbl
[20:55] <ralsina> nessita: ok, I'll try
[20:56] <ralsina> maybe clean is not cleaning enough or something
[20:58] <ralsina> nessita: hey,got the error at least
[20:59] <nessita> :-)
[20:59] <ralsina> nessita: yes, have to add an ignore
[21:03] <ralsina> nessita: done in revno 275
[21:03] <ralsina> nessita: but it surely can wait until monday if you are EODing
[21:03] <nessita> you mean Tuesday? ;-)
[21:04] <ralsina> O course
[21:04] <ralsina> Tuesday is the new Monday
[21:10] <nessita> dobey: will you review https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/use-sso-qt/+merge/92632 ? I was hoping to implicitly test the nightlies during the long weekend :-)
[21:11] <dobey> nessita: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-control-panel/+bug/940620 is the color build
[21:11] <dobey> do i have to?
[21:11] <nessita> dobey: I would like if you do
[21:12] <nessita> dobey: thanks for the bug report, will put that together with some screenshots
[21:12] <nessita> (on Tuesday, of course)
[21:13] <dobey> nessita: it has a branch even :)
[21:13] <nessita> yeap, saw it :-)
[21:15] <nessita> ralsina: it runs all green!
[21:15] <ralsina> nessita: yay
[21:15] <nessita> ralsina: may I finish on Tuesday? I have pilates and need to buy meat for my coming-back-home-half-orange
[21:15] <ralsina> nessita: it has 2 other approves ;-)
[21:16] <ralsina> nessita: but of course it can wait
[21:16] <nessita> ralsina: thanks
[21:16] <ralsina> nessita: I would like to have it before wednesday though so QA can use the testability driver
[21:16] <dobey> i really don't want to review this branch; because i am against the idea anyway.
[21:16] <dobey> nessita: does it not require a feature freeze exception to do this?
[21:16] <nessita> dobey: I don't  think so... does it?
[21:17] <nessita> is not an API change, nor it adds functionality, nor it removes functionality...
[21:17] <dobey> nessita: well, it's using new functionality from a dependency
[21:18] <dobey> nessita: also, the bug report has no information. it's just a "we must do this" statement, and doesn't help understand why we need to do it
[21:18] <nessita> dobey: I can re-phrase the bug. And, using a new func from a dep requires a FFe?
[21:19] <dobey> nessita: i'm not entirely sure if it does or not. but i think so
[21:21] <nessita> dobey: ok, will check. If you don't want to review, is fine, I guess it can be landed with ralsina's review only (would you agree ralsina?)
[21:23] <dobey> nessita: either way, i'd prefer the ffe question was answered first, and the bug was understandable :)
[21:23] <ralsina> nessita: I have no problem with that, I leave it to your opinion
[21:24] <nessita> ok, will rephrase the bug after pilates and ask in ubuntu-release weather that requires and FFe, and then will land if not
[21:24] <nessita> I'm off crowd
[21:24] <dobey> thanks nessita
[21:24] <nessita> thank you!
[21:24] <nessita> ok, bye all! have a great weekend!
[21:24] <nessita> (3-day weekend for some of us :-))
[22:00] <dobey> have a good weekend all
[22:00] <briancurtin> you too
[22:12] <alecu> ok, this ends my week
[22:12] <alecu> see you guys on tue
[22:23] <mateusz_> hello
[22:24] <mateusz_> i've got problem with ubuntuone
[22:24] <mateusz_> i run it but ubuntuone sso does not appear
[22:24] <mateusz_> previously i've got problem with all ubuntuone but i pugre it and reinstall
[22:24] <mateusz_> and now i cant configure my accountu
[22:24] <mateusz_> could you help me?