[08:19] <amitphukan> hi all! i had installed Ubuntu on my flash drive. yesterday i updated it but since then, the mouse, the touchpad is not working. i tried to do a sudo apt-get upgrade and now whenever i boot up, i land in a initramfs shell
[08:19] <sacarlson> linuxinor: I think I would just take it out of /etc/fstab until you find a solution or add the noauto
[08:19] <BlueEagle> Guest1: Yes, that would fit the context perfectly.
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> amitphukan:  a live-cd install or a full normal install?
[08:19] <fishbait> how do i hide the bottom bar in gnome?
[08:20] <amitphukan> Dr_Willis: it was from the USB creator software in Windows
[08:20] <amitphukan> I had downloaded the DVD ISO from Ubuntu
[08:20] <sacarlson> linuxinor: I have a scripts to mount and umount  encrypted file systems from files
[08:21] <amitphukan> i am having to try to run application using alt+f2
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> amitphukan:  so its a live install wwith a pereistant save file. those can break if you update/upgrade them and the kernels tries to get updated i find.. I always do full normal installs to flash drives for  'real work'
[08:21] <Guest1> BlueEagle Another thing I'm noticing is the cursor doesn't click at the point, it clicks at the bottom of the cursor. Is there a way to align that?
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> the live cd setup on flash - is good for light ussage. if you dont install to muuch and dont try to upgrade the whole os.
[08:21] <amitphukan> Dr_Willis: how to do full normal installs in a flash drive ?
[08:22] <amitphukan> using the same Windows software ?
[08:22] <BlueEagle> Guest1: I have never encoutnered such a scenario so I don't know. May be an issue with your graphics driver.
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> amitphukan:  boot the cd or flash and install to  a differnt flash/external usb. be sure grub installs to the external hd/flash also
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> thew windows tool only makes 'live cd' setups with a optional  persistant save file
[08:23] <amitphukan> currently i am on Fedora. from here (if I have the DVD ISO), can i make my pen drive (8GB) a full normal Ubuntu install ?
[08:23] <Guest1> BlueEagle, does ubuntu keep a log of what errors occured? I'm going to try to make the PC name something random, but I doubt thats the problem.
[08:24] <fishbait> how do i hide the bottom bar in gnome on ubuntu 12.04
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> fishbait:  using the gnome fallback session?
[08:25] <fishbait> yes
[08:25] <joel135> amitphukan: i was where you are now a couple of years ago. back then, i should have just booted the livecd and installing on the usb like any other disk. don't know about now though
[08:25] <BlueEagle> Guest1: Do you boot the LiveCD and then start the installation from the desktop or do you start the installation from the GRUB boot menu?
[08:25] <killer_> when i  minimize the applications it just disappears and does not show in unity panel...any help?
[08:26] <Guest1> BlueEagle LiveCD. I'm seeing the menus in that link I sent you, and between figure 7 and figure 8 is where it dies.
[08:26] <Ritchie> hello
[08:27] <joel135> amitphukan: or, if you don't fancy rebooting, you could install the proprietary version of virtualbox to get usb support
[08:27] <amitphukan> joel135: i am just trying to figure out what will make my Pen Drive a working Ubuntu OS so that I can use it, update it, install software etc in future ?
[08:28] <psycose> I am using Ubuntu 11.04 32 bit, with an encrypted home folder for user bob. All was great until I made an upgrade (still on 11.04), without bob connected to the system, there are lot's of /home/bob/.Private/ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED* folders. When I log usign bob, there are some missing file and folders. How could i try to recevoer the missing files ?
[08:28] <joel135> amitphukan: just install on it like you would install on any hard drive. i can give you instructions for setting up virtualbox, if you like?
[08:28] <Ritchie> could someone help me a bit, please? What does it mean when in termanal after executing a command the next line is empty and only the cursor is blinking?
[08:28] <Guest1> BlueEagle, do you think using ext3 instead of ext4 could help? I originally wanted to use NTFS, since I know what that was, but everyone told me that you can't use NTFS for installing ubuntu this way.
[08:28] <amitphukan> joel135: let me download the ISO. it was on a different laptop and I don't have it now :)
[08:29] <joel135> amitphukan: i'll be around for some hour
[08:30] <darknite> Allo
[08:31] <jollynips> darknite: hallo
[08:31] <darknite> Hallo
[08:31] <Kartagis> Turkish repository is giving me a hard time. how can I get a complete list of us repositories?
[08:32] <BlueEagle> Guest1: You didn't answer my question. When you first boot from the CD you are asked if you want to start Ubuntu or install Ubuntu (not sure of the exact wording). One will start the installation procedure directly. The other will boot a Ubuntu desktop and then you have to click on the "Install ubuntu" icon.
[08:32] <darknite> i want to ask something about ubuntu
[08:32] <BlueEagle> Guest1: This is an important distinction because it does effect memory consumption and may even effect which modules that are loaded.
[08:32] <jollynips> darknite: go ahead
[08:32] <Guest1> BlueEagle, I go straight to install
[08:33] <darknite> I want to change settings of my ubuntu but need root password where i forgot
[08:33] <BlueEagle> Guest1: Then I suggest you try booting the desktop. (If you had booted the desktop I would have suggested the direct install). :)
[08:33] <darknite> so how to get the root password?
[08:33] <amitphukan> joel135: thanks
[08:33] <BlueEagle> !root | darknite
[08:33] <jollynips> darknite: what are you wanting to do exactly?
[08:34] <BlueEagle> jollynips: He's breaking into someone elses computer. :)
[08:34] <darknite> i want to change my normal user settings
[08:34] <jollynips> blueEagle: this was my first thought lol
[08:34] <Guest1> BlueEagle what if after I go straight to install, it fails, and then it goes to the desktop, and I tried from there? Or do you want me to start over, turn the PC off, and start from scratch going straight to desktop?
[08:35] <fidel> darknite: what setting would that be?
[08:35] <jollynips> darknite: if you want to change normal user settings theres many things you can change through the noraml settings menu
[08:35] <darknite> my display settings
[08:35] <BlueEagle> Guest1: Well, I ofcourse do assume you have rebooted and tried again before asking for help. Especially since you already asked yesterday. If however you have tried and have the desktop check the /var/log directory for an installation log that may help shed some light on stuff.
[08:36] <BlueEagle> darknite: Did you read the link Ubottu posted for you?
[08:36] <darknite> yeap..i have BlueEagle
[08:37] <sacarlson> darknite: many if not most display settings don't even require sudo to change,  each user sets his own preferences
[08:37] <BlueEagle> darknite: So the question is no longer how to get root access but how to change your desktop resolution?
[08:37] <darknite> ok..
[08:37] <HaltingState> AHHH windows wont stay where I put them, they keep moving to bottom of screen and snapping; WTF!?!?!
[08:37] <HaltingState> who design 11.10, this is a nightmare
[08:38] <BlueEagle> HaltingState: Did you turn on gravity on your desktop? </joke>
[08:39] <Guest1> BlueEagle, I'm at the Home folder, from here how do I go to /var/log ?
[08:39] <HaltingState> BlueEagle, I want to kill someone; this is ridiculous; why is this happening; i just rebooted and it was not happening before
[08:39] <HaltingState> i cant even click outside of the windows focus without it moving the window!?
[08:39] <jollynips> HaltingState: download compizconfig-settingsmanager and check window management settings, see if it can tell you anything
[08:39] <BlueEagle> Guest1: you want to find "Filesystem" in the menu to the left. There you will find the folder "var" and under that a folder called "log".
[08:40] <HaltingState> jollynips, I disabled CCS
[08:40] <HaltingState> i disabled everything i can in cssm
[08:40] <darknite> thanks for the help..i'm still new in ubuntu 12.04
[08:40] <jollynips> HaltingState: you did this after the windows starting going funky?
[08:41] <Guest1> BlueEagle thank you, I'll see if any of these files/folders can tell me anything
[08:41] <HaltingState> jollynips, it only happens on xterm terminal and only on certain windows soi just open windows until i get one that does not move when i defocus it
[08:43] <BlueEagle> Guest1: I am guessing /var/log/installer/syslog (requires sudo to access) could tell you something useful. The last few pages would most likely hold some clue.
[08:43] <jollynips> HaltingState: thats preeetty odd by the sounds of it! can't really think of why it would go like that
[08:43] <juan_> hola
[08:44] <ronrom> i have installed kde and login in kde but the gtk apps appear with big fonts, already tried "kcmshell4 kcmgtk" but the fonts remain the same, any help?
[08:44] <BlueEagle> HaltingState: Just to be sure. It only happens to xterm terminals and no other windows? Not even gnome-terminal?
[08:44] <Guest1> BlueEagle I'm in /var/log/installer/ but see no syslog. Whats this sudo I need?
[08:44] <HaltingState> BlueEagle, i dont know
[08:44] <juan_> hola alguien me puede decir al go de xubuntu
[08:47] <BlueEagle> HaltingState: Could you try opening a gnome-terminal and see if it happens to it?
[08:47] <jollynips> juan: if you want the spanish ubuntu channel, i think its #ubuntu-es-es
[08:47] <BlueEagle> !es | juan_
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> !es
[08:47] <BlueEagle> !xubuntu | juan_
[08:51] <BlueEagle> Guest1: Hmm.. I would have expected there to be a syslog in there. It may be that it is moved to that catalog only upon successful completion. Check if you find a /var/log/syslog that may help. You might have to scroll back to the time when the installation failed though.
[08:53] <x26s> Migrated my dual boot (win7 and BT5R2) to a larger hdd and resized the partitions. Now BT throws a shell after the message "alert /dev/~ uuid does not exist"
[08:53] <x26s> tried some forums.... renamed the right uuid in fstab after checking with sudo blkid
[08:54] <Guest1> BlueEagle, yes there is, and i'm looking through it now, although its a bit over my head
[08:54] <BlueEagle> x26s: You may also have to regenerate an initrd.
[08:54] <x26s> fdisk -l shows physical/logical endings different
[08:54] <x26s> BlueEagle:thnx... how to do that
[08:55] <Kartagis> Turkish repository is giving me a hard time. how /where can I get a complete list of US repositories?
[08:56] <digitalrain> hello
[08:56] <BlueEagle> Guest1: cat /var/log/syslog |grep -iC5 error
[08:56] <BlueEagle> Guest1: That will show 2 lines above and below any line in syslog that contains 'error'
[08:57] <BlueEagle> !initrd
[08:57] <huhmaster> FUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuu assholes
[08:58] <Guest1> BlueEagle, I use the search for text feature, and enter what you typed?
[08:58] <BlueEagle> x26s: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InitramfsUpdates may help
[08:58] <psycose> I use Ubuntu 11.04 with an encrypted home folder, if i connect througgh ssh, there are some folders that are duplicated, like Documents appear twice, but the only one I can ls is empty, do you know if this is normal ?
[08:58] <BlueEagle> Guest1: No, that's a terminal command
[08:58] <BlueEagle> Guest1: You could use it in conjunction with !pastebinit
[08:58] <digitalrain> anybody know why a terminal would freeze up?
[08:59] <BlueEagle> !pastebinit > Guest1
[08:59] <BlueEagle> digitalrain: Because it's too cold?
[08:59] <ronrom> i see that the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesnt exist, where is xorg.conf now?
[09:00] <BlueEagle> ronrom: In most cases you don't need xorg.conf any more. However if you do need one feel free to create it in /etc/X11/
[09:00] <jollynips> digitalrain: define freeze up, does the prompt not appear?
[09:00] <ronrom> BlueEagle: so how am i gona configure my graphc crads drivers?
[09:00] <Guest1> BlueEagle, ok, and now where do I find the terminal?
[09:01] <digitalrain> jollynips:   when i use terminal then go do somthing else when i come back its froze
[09:01] <jollynips> guest1: press ctrl + alt + t for terminal
[09:02] <Guest1> ubottu thanks
[09:02] <x26s> BlueEagle: I have booted from a usb bt5. I have to update initrd for the internal hdd partition.
[09:03] <jollynips> digitalrain: sorry so as in you cant input commands, does it seem busy with a process or does the whole terminal window freeze up and you can't move it or anything?
[09:03] <Guest1> jollynips nothing happened.....if it matters, I'm on a liveCD desktop session
[09:03] <digitalrain> jollynips: yup the whole terminal frezzes and it wasent in proccess
[09:03] <BlueEagle> !chroot | x26s
[09:04] <jollynips> guest1: well you need to make sure you press them all @ the same time, its just a shortcut, otherwise search for the terminal in dash home if you're in 12.04
[09:04] <BlueEagle> x26s: What you want to do is to mount your root partition, bind mount your dev and sys and then chroot into that environment before running the ramfs-update.
[09:05] <x26s> BlueEagle: One last question: on fdisk -l, I also get physical and logical endings are different. Can this be the reason for my problem (alert no uuid, dropping a shellshell)?
[09:05] <jollynips> digitalrain: got no clue sorry
[09:05] <Guest1> jollynips, yeah, I was holding it down all down for a good 5 seconds, luckily searching for it did bring it up, and I am on 12.04
[09:05] <BlueEagle> x26s: It should not be. All that indicates is that there is disk space going to waste. Usually not more than a fraction of a percent of the total capacity.
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> theres that round to  boundries that the partition tools try to do these days. may be the reason x26s
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> round to nearest cylinder? (i cant rember now) its 5 am ;)
[09:06] <x26s> BlueEagle: so this is a grub2 and initrd problem. Thanks again!
[09:07] <x26s> Dr_Willis: thnx!
[09:07] <jollynips> guest1: hm strange, maybe you dont have that shortcut then, should do though im sure its a standard shortcut
[09:07] <BlueEagle> x26s: I don't think grub is part of it
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> the logical ends befor the  physical = ok..   physical ends first.. well thats not ok. ;)
[09:07] <bipul> BlueEagle:  grub is a part of wht ?
[09:07] <BlueEagle> (unless I've misunderstood something, that is)
[09:08] <BlueEagle> bipul: The problem
[09:08] <Guest1> BlueEagle I typed this exactly "cat /var/log/syslog/ |grep -iC5 error" without the quotes. It says "Not a directory"
[09:08] <x26s> bipul: I had a problem with the bt5 dropping to a shell coz uuid does not exist
[09:09] <bipul> BlueEagle: what problem you have?
[09:09] <BlueEagle> Guest1: Seems you've got a / too many.
[09:09] <omido> hi.newbie here. i have few questions about java. why java is not available by default? which java package i have to install ? java 6 or 7 or icedtea? and what about Oracle(sun) java? where can i find it ?
[09:09] <bipul> x26s: ? can you explain you problem
[09:09] <BlueEagle> Guest1: syslog is a file, not a directory so it should be /var/log/syslog
[09:09] <DJones> !java | omido
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> omido:  the gpl iced tea java is in thee repos..
[09:09] <BlueEagle> bipul: I'm not the one with the problem.
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> !java | omido
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> omido:  what are you going to be doing ith your java?
[09:10] <bipul> BlueEagle:  i need to know the problem ?
[09:10] <x26s> bipul: hold on
[09:10] <DJones> omido: Its not available by default because of the licencing required, you had to manuall download & install from the official website now
[09:10] <bipul> ok x26s
[09:10] <x26s> bipul: Migrated my dual boot (win7 and BT5R2) to a larger hdd and resized the partitions. Now BT throws a shell after the message "alert /dev/~ uuid does not exist"
[09:10] <x26s>  tried some forums.... renamed the right uuid in fstab after checking with sudo blkid
[09:10] <x26s> bipul: still no use
[09:11] <bipul> x26s:  give me a time
[09:11] <x26s> bipul: windows booting ok.... can get a entry to bt5 from easybcd
[09:12] <ikonia> why are we discussing backtrack in here ?
[09:12] <x26s> bipul: but the boot from bt5 drops a shell
[09:12] <x26s> ikonia: not specific to bt5
[09:12] <Dr_Willis>  x26s  check the /boot/grub/grub.cfg to se eif its got the right uuid for the linux install also.  both that and fstab need to be correct
[09:13] <Guest1> BlueEagle. Ok, I have a copy of the log file. If I were to e-mail it to you, would that be the fastest way to show you it's contents?
[09:13] <ikonia> x26s: backtrack and it's components can be discussed in #backtrack-linux, not here
[09:13] <bipul> x26s:  let's move to #backtrack-linux
[09:13] <x26s> ikonia: this is not a problem about backtrack
[09:13] <ikonia> x26s: but you're testing it with backtrack
[09:13] <x26s> ikonia:it is a problem about linux installation failing
[09:14] <x26s> ikonia: u can assume it is ubuntu
[09:14] <ikonia> x26s: tack it to #backtrack-linux please.
[09:14] <ikonia> x26s: no, I'm not, take it to #backtrack-linux please.
[09:14] <bipul> x26s:  are you facing this ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell
[09:15] <x26s> ikonia: my problem is i have moved my  dual boot os to a larger hdd; the linux is going into a shell
[09:15] <ikonia> bipul: stop
[09:15] <x26s> bipul: yeah
[09:15] <ikonia> x26s: so take it to #backtrack-linux
[09:15] <BlueEagle> !pastebinit | Guest1
[09:15] <ikonia> bipul: this channel picks up ubuntu support, not variations like backtrack
[09:15] <abhinavmehta> I want to transfer files between 2-computers, within the local network using peer-to-peer mechanism. I know smb and servers-side methods…but as I said, I'm looking for peer-to-peer mechanism..is that possible..? Like this app does: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/worml/id463103644?mt=12
[09:15] <x26s> ikonia: u a moderator?
[09:15] <ikonia> x26s: yes
[09:15] <x26s> bipul: lets move to bt
[09:15] <x26s> ikonia: am surprised
[09:15] <bipul> x26s: Hy just come here #backtrack-linux
[09:15] <x26s> ikonia: lol
[09:15] <x26s> ikonia: cant you see?
[09:16] <BlueEagle> Guest1: cat /var/log/syslog |grep -iC5 error |pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:16] <Guest1> BlueEagle, the computer I am on in this chat is not the ubuntu computer.
[09:16] <ikonia> x26s: I can see fine,
[09:16] <BlueEagle> Guest1: Is the ubuntu computer connected to the internet?
[09:16] <bipul> ikonia:  i am not discusing anything here regading bt5
[09:16] <abhinavmehta> want to transfer files between diff. os'es like windows, mac, ubuntu…and my current local network is have wireless wifi setup.
[09:16] <Guest1> BlueEagle yes
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> abhinavmehta:  not clear on what you mean by peer to peer.. comapred to using scp for example
[09:17] <x26s> ikonia: yeah i just realized.... see you dude
[09:17] <ikonia> thank you
[09:17] <BlueEagle> Guest1: Then I suggest you install pastebinit if it is not already installed and apply the command.
[09:17] <abhinavmehta> Dr_Willis: in sep, router will play the role or not..
[09:17] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  I am sshing into an embedded version of ubuntu (beagleboard hardware)  I want to know:  if I shut down the BB ssh won't automatically log me out. In that case for example <ctrl>-<c>  or <ctrl>-<z>  will not work anymore, I guess, because ssh "swallows" those key combinations..  is there a workaround?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> oh. a peer peer networked.. ;) not  a peer to peer service.
[09:18] <abhinavmehta> Dr_Willis: is it possible to do direct nic-connection between the computers…provided the initial handshake is done using wit router support.
[09:18] <abhinavmehta> Dr_Willis: yeap
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> ad-hoc networking. :)
[09:18] <abhinavmehta> Dr_Willis: yes.
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> i got to many cheap routers sitting around. :) rarely do ad-hoc - rarely ever got it working either..
[09:20] <abhinavmehta> Dr_Willis: the benefit of doing this…you may get good transfer rates. SO, for example in current setup my wifi-router is of G-series..but nic-cards are of N-series…and thus router max transfer rate is 54Mpbs while nic-cards can transfer my data at much higher rates..
[09:21] <abhinavmehta> ..and I found this in CrashPlan-app…they are transferring data between two computers at 100Mpbs++ rates…so now I also want to have my own such setup.
[09:22] <abhinavmehta> so anyone who can tell me how to setup simple and quick per-to-peer file sharing service for a local-network..?
[09:22] <abhinavmehta> *peer-to-peer
[09:24] <Guest1> BlueEagle, the only software I found in the Ubuntu software center by searching for that is nautilus pastebin configurator. Thats not it, is it?
[09:26] <eddie> join #UaPush
[09:27] <Guest1> BlueEagle, would this work? Installing from the links on here? http://linuxers.org/article/pastebinit-command-line-pastebin-client
[09:29] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: I guess samba as that will also work for window boxes as well
[09:29] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: thats very slow…I want something which can transfer at 100Mbps++ rates.
[09:29] <k1l_> Guest1: "sudo apt-get pastebinit"
[09:30] <k1l_> Guest1: "sudo apt-get intall pastebinit"  sry typo
[09:31] <k1l_> *install that is. sry its too early for me :/
[09:31] <Guest1> k1l_ it says unable to locate package pastebinit
[09:31] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: I'm not sure why samba might be any slower than others but might compare it to sshfs
[09:31] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: is it like sep/sftp..?
[09:32] <Ritchie> why does it happen that after executing "apt-key add -" nothing happens, I only see the cursor blinking?
[09:32] <k1l_> Guest1: can you show a "lsb_release -a" in nopaste.info ?
[09:32] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: yes sftp  all that is needed is install of ssh-server
[09:32] <elky> k1l_, new  rule: consume caffeine before trying to help people :D
[09:32] <Guest1> k1l_ i'm not sure what your asking.....should I type that in terminal?
[09:32] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: thats again a CLI tool…is there some good GUI-app for that..?
[09:33] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: nautilus supports sftp
[09:33] <k1l_> Guest1: yes, type that in terminal and copy the output into the page and show the link here (like uploading a picture :) )
[09:33] <k1l_> elky: yep, it was too early, i even forgot that :)
[09:34] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: ohh..interesting. lemme check.
[09:34] <amitphukan> i have downloaded Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop ISO image. Can I install it to my Pen Drive using a dd command ? Or is there any other way ?
[09:35] <Guest1> k1l_ says no LSB modules are available
[09:35] <k1l_> Guest1: and the other lines?
[09:35] <buharin> kurde
[09:35] <buharin> kto podpowie jak naprawic ten debilizm
[09:35] <buharin> wlaczam skype
[09:35] <buharin> albo wesnoth
[09:36] <k1l_> !pl | buharin
[09:36] <buharin> i jak gdzies przeklikne np. na przegladarke
[09:36] <buharin> sorry
[09:36] <buharin> :D
[09:37] <Guest1> k1l_ Distributor ID: Ubuntu, Description: Ubuntu 12.04LTS, Release 12.04, Codename: Precise
[09:37] <rob_> hi, any upstart gurus about? im having a strange problem where i can run 'start myscript' and it works fine but for some reason the job isn't starting on boot even though i have 'start on started network-services'
[09:38] <k1l_> Guest1: so this is a clean original ubuntu? or any spin off?
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> amitphukan: dd can work
[09:39] <Guest1> k1l_ clean original ubuntu, and at the moment its running off of a liveCD because for some odd reason, I cant install it. I've tried over 12 times now. Keeps dieing in the same place every time.
[09:40] <sacarlson> Guest1 did you try boot a usb instead of cd?  as I have problems with my old cd drivers
[09:40] <amitphukan> Dr_Willis: dd if=/ubuntu-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb1 ?
[09:41] <sacarlson> Guest1 also maybe try some older versions of ubuntu like 10.04 or other
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> amitphukan:  sdb  not sdb1
[09:41] <k1l_> Guest1: you shold try the alternate installer
[09:41] <k1l_> !alternate | Guest1
[09:41] <Guest1> sacarlson the only USB I have is an SD card and then an SD card reader. I dont have a thumb drive
[09:42] <amitphukan> Dr_Willis: ok
[09:42] <sacarlson> Guest1 I think those should work as well as it's seen the same as a usb flash as long as it has at least about 700mb in size
[09:43] <Guest1> sacarlson, and it doesn't matter which usb port it is?
[09:46] <sacarlson> Guest1 seems some of usb ports work better than others, I just trail and error but I think some are usb 1.0 and the other is usb 2.0 ports
[09:46] <jollynips> im currently dual booting 12.04 with win7, intend to delete it after 1yr warranty goes, when i eventually get to it, do i use grub to delete windows or do i have to do it another way?
[09:46] <BlueEagle> k1l_: He's in a recovery system.
[09:46] <sacarlson> Guest1 they maybe both work but one is slower
[09:46] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: I started experimenting using ssh-method, but file transfer rates are < 1 MB/sec :(
[09:47] <k1l_> jollynips: remove the windows partitions. extend you ubuntu partitions. run update-grub. thats it
[09:47] <Ironbutt> hey, I'm trying to watch a secure video on 3dbuzz.com and it won't load
[09:48] <jollynips> k1l: kk thanks
[09:48] <k1l_> BlueEagle: ok. but he should use the alternate installer.
[09:48] <Ironbutt> this is an issue with linux. I think it's to do with the fact it's a secured video, that needs authentication
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> ironbutt if secure means it has 'drm'  protection.  most likely linux cant play it
[09:49] <Ironbutt> it means that it establishes a secure connection before loading
[09:50] <Ironbutt> because it's a subscription based video streaming site
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> hulu and hulu plus work in linux.. and it has a subscription option.
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> so im not sure how the ';secure' part would be causing the issue.
[09:51] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: this guy notes getting  90 MB/s out of samba and 9mb/s from sftp http://www.freelance.com/en/mission/view/Development-of-a-Windows-USB-driver/dbf92bec379da3c00137c0c70c2270b2   so maybe you have some other problems
[09:51] <Guest1> If I type multiple peoples names in a row, will all those people see their name in red?
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> guest1  their irc clients normally look for mention of their own nicks in any line.. so yes.
[09:52] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: what systems do you have on each side?  both ubuntu?  if so what versions?
[09:53] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: what bandwidth are your hard disks?  as that can also be the slow point in the chain,  what is copy speed from one local hard disk to another?
[09:54] <Ironbutt> Guest1, Dr_Willis, sacarlson well does it?
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> when someone mentions my nick on this irc client THEIR nick shows up in green. ;)
[09:54] <Guest1> BlueEagle, sacarlson, k1l_, ubottu, thank you all for your help, but now it's time I went to bed. So I guess I'll keep trying tomarrow.
[09:55] <Guest1> Ironbutt, I saw it
[10:01] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: so sorry for late-reply..I was away from syste,.
[10:02] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: I'm having Ubuntu12.04 and Mac, with 7200rpm and SSD on each side respectively. And my nic-cards are of N-series, but router is of G-series. (nic=wifi cards)
[10:02] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: and thanks, lemme check that link.
[10:03] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: oh you expected wifi transfer rates of faster than 100mb/sec ?
[10:04] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: try a wired net to verify what the real limits might be
[10:04] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: yes…
[10:05] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: hmm..thts good for smb tests.
[10:05] <amitphukan> Dr_Willis: the dd command is still going on .. seems like it will not end.. is there any other parameter to pass ? it does have a VFAT formatted partition in it
[10:05] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: don't expect every packet to even make it in wifi, maybe 10% failure rate with retry
[10:06] <abhinavmehta> but what I'm saying was: I've seen wifi-transfer rates at 100Mbps++ while using CrashPlan-app…and thus I found that this is possible rate for data-transfer within local-network….now I'm pretty sure that can't have same with my G-series router…but thought this is possible with peer-to-peer networked.
[10:07] <abhinavmehta> so..know coz I know that this could be achieved over current setup with wifi…now question is how to get same in-general file/folder sharing.
[10:07] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: are there rates calculated before or after compresion?
 hi ... i want to know  how to change the default setting in linux of python 2.7 to python 3.x
[10:08] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: compression is definitely could be the factor..and I don't know whether that app does that compression or not.
[10:08] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: but even though if its a runtime compression..100Mbps is still a awesome rate.
[10:09] <abhinavmehta> infact sometime it hits 200Mbps++ rates
[10:09] <abhinavmehta> so that rate is awesome, I guess.
[10:10] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: well if crashplan works faster then use that
[10:11] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: what is your local hard disk to local hard disk transfer rate?
[10:11] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: hmmm:) guess I could…but that do only for its own…it doesn't provide me interface for file-transfer…it just backups the data..and that too with the encryption.
[10:11] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: mac is having SSD and Ubuntu is having 7200rpm
[10:11] <abhinavmehta> BTW: crash plan screen: http://cl.ly/3j2n2n0a1a2u373W1d3N
[10:11] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: that's not a speed what mbps?
[10:12] <abhinavmehta> ohh..lemme check
[10:12] <Ironbutt> lol, that's not a speed
[10:12] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: but they should blaze
[10:12] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: lemme check.
[10:13] <snigil> hi
[10:13] <abhinavmehta> Ironbutt: than what else you think is that..?
[10:13] <sacarlson> abhinavmehta: rpm is revolutions per second
[10:14] <abhinavmehta> sacarlson: I know. I thought Ironbutt is saying about screenshot.
[10:14] <pengw> hi all
[10:15] <pengw> fffffff is =???
[10:15] <pengw> how can i check my GPU mem size
[10:15] <Ironbutt> looks good to me
[10:15] <Ironbutt> hehe
[10:16] <abhinavmehta> 7200RPM disk having 6GB/sec and SSD having 230Mb/sec
[10:16] <Ironbutt> I don't think it's possible
[10:16] <Ironbutt> for a 7200rpm to have 6gbps
[10:16] <scriptwarlock> pengw: could it be lspci -v | less
[10:17] <Ironbutt> if you have a hard drive of those speeds, send it back to the labs so they can make more of them
[10:17] <serdotlin> pengw: terminal> lspci -v -s `lspci | awk '/VGA/{print $1}'`
[10:17] <pengw> thx
[10:17] <abhinavmehta> Ironbutt: sorry, my mistake..7200rpm having 1030Mb/sec
[10:18] <abhinavmehta> can find more details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive (Under heading Data transfer rate)
[10:19] <Ironbutt> I doubt it can sustain that for lots of small files
[10:20] <abhinavmehta> Ironbutt: there could be several such factors…which can hinder or lower the rate…but that the max I guess, under controlled env.
[10:20] <Ironbutt> yeah, that makes sense
[10:20] <Ironbutt> ooh new overgrowth video
[10:21] <abhinavmehta> and thats why I never think-off to have 1000Mbps transfer rate…but can think of 10% of it, I mean 100Mbps..isnt it..?
[10:21] <vampirnata> I'm having some issues with byobu keybindings. I can't seem to get C-a! working to disable byobu. Also Shift-F2 to split window doesn't work. Haven't tried any others. Anyone have a second to try and help?
[10:22] <Ironbutt> general transfer rate for a 7200rpm should be between 40 and 100mbps
[10:22] <Ironbutt> I use green drives and sometimes get 100mbps on them, usually 40mbps though
[10:22] <joachibl> is it still true that NetworkManager's dnsmasq configuration is hardcoded?
[10:23] <abhinavmehta> Ironbutt: ok…I'm happy with 10Mbps too….but not with 1Mbps….but how to get even 10Mbps speed..?
[10:23] <joachibl> i'd like to add a few lines to the dnsmasq to add PXE/TFTP booting, but i can't figure out where do change this
[10:23] <joachibl> s/do/to/
[10:23] <Ironbutt> maybe your sata cable is busted
[10:23] <abhinavmehta> Ironbutt: hmmm ;)
[10:23] <Ironbutt> I've had that before
[10:23] <Ironbutt> with a dvd drive
[10:23] <abhinavmehta> Ironbutt: ohh..and even after busting it could work...?
[10:24] <Ironbutt> busted sata cables work, just very slowly
[10:24] <abhinavmehta> Ironbutt: okay..if you insist…I check local-file-transfer rates on both of my machines.
[10:25] <Ironbutt> seek times are what kill speeds on a good hard drive, because they just physically cannot move a write head faster than they can spin a disk
[10:26] <abhinavmehta> On ubuntu I'm getting around 25Mb/sec and on Mac getting 42Mb/sec…
[10:26] <joel135> amitphukan: i'm sorry i left. my irc client crashed or something
[10:27] <Zehle> Hello! :)
[10:28] <Ironbutt> hi
[10:29] <Ironbutt> ooh, you can buy magazines here
[10:31] <Zehle> lly just need to write EXIT and it starts to boot, but it would be nice to be able to skip that for all because it's a server pc, I don't want to need to use screen and keyboard to start it :)
[10:31] <Zehle> Why did all my text dissapear? :S
[10:31] <Zehle> Two problems with Ubuntu:
[10:32] <Ironbutt> one
[10:32] <Ironbutt> and don't forget two
[10:32] <Zehle> 1. I get a boot menu. I just want to boot the first alternative directly.
[10:32] <Zehle> 2. I get Busybox with initframs. i can write EXIT and it starts ubuntu but it would be nice to be able to start the PC without using keyboard and Screen
[10:32] <Ironbutt> yeah, sometimes I get that boot menu, sometimes I don't... it's weird
[10:33] <Zehle> I want it to go wawy :P
[10:33] <Ironbutt> try eating your keyboard
[10:33] <Zehle> It's just interupting....
[10:33] <Zehle> Naa
[10:33] <Zehle> Someone serious here?
[10:36] <joel135> Zehle: you want to follow these instructions http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/bootmenu
[10:37] <joel135> Zehle: setting "GRUB_TIMEOUT" to 0 should skip the boot menu
[10:39] <Zehle> Jowl1135: Thanks, I'll try that, what about the BusyBox? You know anything about it?
[10:43] <RhumAin> bonjour
[10:47] <AnwarShah> Can anyone help me?
[10:47] <ikonia> AnwarShah: if you ask a question/explain the problem, people can try
[10:48]  * nafcool agrees with ikonia
[10:48] <AnwarShah> I want to configure nautilus to open ntfs partition with `exec` permission
[10:49] <ikonia> AnwarShah: this maybe a silly question, but this isn't because you can't open something in wine is it ?
[10:50] <AnwarShah> No, I can mount ntfs partition, but i want them with exec permission like Lucid, because there are some scripts there, which i have to regularly execute
[10:50] <ikonia> AnwarShah: scripts ? as in shell scripts, or Windows scripts ?
[10:51] <AnwarShah> In Lucid, whenever i double click on a script, it asks to execute
[10:51] <AnwarShah> shell script
[10:51] <ikonia> AnwarShah: that's interesting so you are suggesting the partion needs an executable flag, rather than the actual script ?
[10:52] <AnwarShah> may be. I am not sure
[10:52] <ikonia> AnwarShah: give me a moment, I'm just checking, the exec mount option does appear to be valid
[10:54] <ikonia> AnwarShah: I'm alarmed to read the default nautilus mount options for NTFS are compiled in, but I find that hard to believe, so I'm just researching
[10:54] <developer> hello
[10:54] <AnwarShah> @developer, hello
[10:54] <nafcool> developer: hello!
[10:55] <ikonia> AnwarShah: there is an interesting suggestion that these settings can be edited with gconf editor, I have the path to the option if you want to check ?
[10:55] <AnwarShah> yes, very good.
[10:56] <AnwarShah> Sorry, i am new to irc. first time
[10:56] <ikonia> /system/storage/default_options/ntfs/mount_options
[10:56] <ikonia> see if that is still valid
[10:56] <AnwarShah> so i don't know how to ping
[10:56] <AnwarShah> thanks
[10:56] <fAz4> i've added my test.conf to /etc/init/ , should i add anything else to bringing up my service ?
[10:56] <ikonia> AnwarShah: if that doesn't appear valid any more it does suggest that the options are compiled in, which is terrible
[10:56] <developer> AnwarShah, ping<space>IP
[10:57] <AnwarShah> thanks, how to know the IP
[10:57] <tga> hey, for quickly setting up a temporary mail server is there anything better than postfix?
[10:58] <AnwarShah> ping AnwarShah
[10:58] <ikonia> tga: better is really down to personal opinion
[10:58] <ikonia> tga: it works fine
[10:58] <tga> in your personal opinion then
[10:58] <edwinkcw> tga: use gmail
[10:58] <ikonia> tga: there is nothing wrong with using postfix if your comfortable with it
[10:58] <tga> well, I'm not, what's the easiest one to configure?
[10:59] <edwinkcw> tga: gmail as smtp , almost no config is needed
[10:59] <ikonia> tga: depends on your skill/awareness, postfix is pretty straight forward
[10:59] <AnwarShah> ping ikonia: can you please paste that key again.
[10:59] <tga> edwinkcw: thanks, but the reason I need a temporary mail server is because a gmail screwup
[10:59] <AnwarShah> i accedently cleared all the messages
[10:59] <ikonia> AnwarShah: you don't need to type "ping", just say my name
[10:59] <tga> ikonia: mmkay, just checking
[10:59] <ikonia> AnwarShah: /system/storage/default_options/ntfs/mount_options
[10:59] <tga> thanks
[11:00] <ikonia> tga: if you're ok editing text files and understand how MTA works, you'll be fine with postfix
[11:00] <tekonivelo> i'm getting an decoding error with Deja-dup... should i report it under duplicity or deja-dup?
[11:00] <tekonivelo> the error is "log.Debug(_("Selecting %s") % subpath.name)
[11:00] <tekonivelo> UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 44: ordinal not in range(128)"
[11:00] <mustinet> Hi all, how can i see server status of repos. my repo adresses prefix is tr. but i cant fetch any content from repos. always returning "failed to fecht http...... connection failed"
[11:01] <ikonia> mustinet: view the repo in your browser, it's just http
[11:01] <AnwarShah> ikonia I do not find the key in gconf-editor.
[11:01] <ikonia> AnwarShah: how dissapointing
[11:01] <ikonia> AnwarShah: it does appear the settings are compiled in then.
[11:02] <mustinet> ikonia: server not found. connection is aborted
[11:02] <ikonia> mustinet: there you go then
[11:03] <TheBadger412> on eagle pcb all of my windows are opening up but unity is not showing them, every time I click the eagle icon it just opens another version of eagle
[11:03] <TheBadger412> if i minimise the windows they just dissapear
[11:03] <ikonia> eagle pcb ? what has that got to do with ubuntu ?
[11:03] <TheBadger412> no forget its eaglepcb, just another program.. I created the unity icon for the program
[11:04] <AnwarShah> ikonia , so i cannot edit them, without recompiling? am i correct?
[11:04] <TheBadger412> but i dont know how to get unity to display the open windows, the icon i made just opens up another full package
[11:04] <ikonia> TheBadger412: please don't lie
[11:04] <ikonia> TheBadger412: you've just told us it's eagle pcb
[11:04] <TheBadger412> I think you are massively confused
[11:04] <ikonia> am I  ?
[11:04] <ikonia> how ?
[11:05] <TheBadger412> I created the icon myself, for a program I want to use. Say it was my own program, how do I get unity to integrate open windows in it
[11:05] <ikonia> oh I see
[11:05] <ikonia> my apologies.
[11:05] <wasanzy> hi
[11:06] <wasanzy> please how do I restart or reset my dchp on ubuntu?
[11:07] <TheBadger412> wasanzy: $ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[11:10] <snigil> hi  all
[11:11] <sacarlson> wasanzy:  or do you mean dhcpd  the server side?
[11:12] <abc__> msaily
[11:12] <wid_> hi
[11:12] <Kartagis> !info svn
[11:12] <Kartagis> !find svn
[11:12] <abc__> test
[11:15] <Kartagis> how do I know what repo <package> is in?
[11:15] <wasanzy> sacarlson: may be yes
[11:16] <SkippersBoss> Kartagis, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=svn&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all
[11:17] <sacarlson> wasanzy: then it might be sudo /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server restart or equiv upstart
[11:17] <fAz4> i have to call " start task" to bringing up my app in Upstart
[11:18] <fAz4> is it anyway to register it ?
[11:18] <Kartagis> SkippersBoss: svn is in universe, I have the line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise universe multiverse in my sources.list, yet I get subversion has no installation candidate
[11:19] <sacarlson> Kartagis: you should look at git instead of svn but that's just my preference
[11:20] <Kartagis> sacarlson: kvirc is on svn
[11:21] <scriptwarlock> is there any way we can lock unity panel or icons?
[11:21] <SkippersBoss> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505276
[11:21] <scriptwarlock> is there any way we can lock unity panel or icons from changing?
[11:22] <yandex2318> scriptwarlock: Yes, I think it's possible
[11:22] <scriptwarlock> yandex2318, how, i'd like to use precise for my cyber cafe and limiting the guests
[11:23] <Mrokii> Hello. Not sure if this is directly Ubuntu related, but I have recently downloaded a game that uses Flashplayer. The problem is that when I put Flashplayer in Full screen, it doesn't accept keyboard-input anymore. What I noticed is that Flashplayer seems to be V.10, even though the Flash-plugin is 11.
[11:23] <SkippersBoss> !find subversion
[11:24] <yandex2318> scriptwarlock: Create a custom user group for the guests, and restrict their permissions
[11:24] <optikx> ..
[11:25] <scriptwarlock> yandex2318, yes i know guest limits but locking the unity panel from changing is what i was looking for. does guest account limits the use or editing of unity panel?
[11:26] <JediMaster> I'm having problems trying to get Ubuntu 12.04 64bit installed on a XCP 1.5 host (aka XenServer 6), I couldn't get it to recognise the CD ROM, but I've got the netinstall to get past that and I get: "failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-depends", looking on the console logs, I can see "Illegal Instruction" - the host has 2x12 core AMD 6238 cpus, and the VM is assigned 16 of those
[11:26] <JediMaster> cores and 100GB of ram
[11:27] <yandex2318> scriptwarlock: Not specifically, it might be a bit of work for you to set it up
[11:28] <sacarlson> Kartagis: oh seems I see it on gitorios and github also https://github.com/Voker57/kvirc/commits/master
[11:29] <sacarlson> Kartagis: maybe not the same version or branch
[11:29] <scriptwarlock> yandex2318, pessulus is a nice idea but i think they pulled from repo
[11:30] <SkippersBoss> !find pessi
[11:31] <SkippersBoss> !find pessulus
[11:31] <yandex2318> scriptwarlock: If you can find how the Unity panel is configured (an XML file or similar), it would probably be easier to just initialize it upon login each time rather than lock it down
[11:31] <sacarlson> Kartagis: I also note it's in the ubuntu repository kvirc precompiled
[11:32] <scriptwarlock> yandex2318, guest acc and unity lockdown from changing is a win for public use i think.
[11:34] <marco> scriptwarlock: what exactly is this unity lockdown?
[11:34] <Kartagis> sacarlson: I was told to get svn, as I have issues with the current one
[11:35] <fAz4> what's runlevel [!2345] ?
[11:35] <angga> how to make link from /var/www to /home/user/www ??
[11:36] <Kartagis> fAz4: runlevel 1
[11:36] <Kartagis> angga: man ln
[11:36] <angga> how to use ??
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> angga:  apache has a feature to allow users to host web sites in their home. Or you can set /var/www where the users can access it.
[11:37] <angga> yap.. but i want to set in my home folder. its to complicated if still in /var/www
[11:38] <scriptwarlock> marco, i tried one machine from my shop and configured the usual icons customer uses like firefox, g chrome, libreoffice and some. problem is the customer keeps changing the app shortcuts in the panel so i was thinking of limiting them by locking the panel
[11:38] <Kartagis> angga: load user module
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> angga:  link /home/user/www TO /var/www  not the other way. that way teh actual data is still in /var/www
[11:38] <angga> ahh..
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> then set the groups for the user where they have access to /var/www   would be the 'best' way i belive
[11:39] <angga> i'll try :D
[11:39] <angga> one more.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> angga:  askubuntu.com has variantions on your question....
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53677/give-apache-permission-to-write-to-home-www-directories
[11:39] <marco> scriptwarlock: and what prevents you from giving him a guest account or an account for him only to use?
[11:39] <angga> oke
[11:39] <angga> thanks
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=users+write+www&submit=search
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> several good hits there.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> best one seems to be --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www
[11:42] <greg606> hi
[11:42] <greg606> I need your help
[11:42] <scriptwarlock> marco, an account for every customer?
[11:42] <greg606> I have two monitor I cannot set next to each other
[11:43] <marco> scriptwarlock: hmmm, you mean the machine is exposed for anyone to use?
[11:43] <greg606> requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(2541, 0), size=(1920, 1200), maximum=(4096, 4096)
[11:43] <greg606> could you help?
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> greg606:  what video card/chipset are you using?
[11:44] <scriptwarlock> marco, es for the public anyone can use thats why i was thinking of just putting some standard panel setup for commonly used app
[11:44] <greg606> ati hd4870x2
[11:44] <greg606> it always worked
[11:44] <greg606> not in 12.04
[11:45] <marco> scriptwarlock: wait.. I'll think of something
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> You are using the flgrx driver? or are you using the open sourced driver?
[11:45] <mortisha> there is a problem while I was trying to install ubuntu, error was no proper bios file found. Can anyone help me???
[11:45] <greg606> flgrx
[11:45] <greg606> proprietary
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> greg606:  you tried the ati/amd config tool to rearange monitors?
[11:46] <greg606> yes
[11:46] <greg606> same
[11:46] <greg606> it only works stacked under each other
[11:46] <L3top> greg606: it should be noted that the 12-5 version of fglrx/catalyst has dropped support for your card.
[11:46] <scriptwarlock> marco, is it possible to edit in unity shell.qml?
[11:47] <greg606> L3top: i guess i have 12.4
[11:47] <marco> scriptwarlock: I'm thinking of changing the permission of the files that store the configuration
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> whats the pixle with of the monitors greg606 ?
[11:47] <marco> scriptwarlock: btw, not sure, but I think that .qml is only for unit-2d
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> whats their resolutions
[11:48] <greg606> 2560x1600 + 1920x1200
[11:48] <scriptwarlock> marco, right
[11:48] <Kartagis> heh, I rebooted and my problem with chrome not appearing in alt+tab list goes away
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> so 2560 is the width. (wow thats a wide one) and  2560+1920 =
[11:49] <L3top> greg606: Just a heads up is all... http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?70500-AMD-To-Drop-Radeon-HD-2000-3000-4000-Catalyst-Support
[11:49] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: how do I replace unity launcher with cairo-dock?
[11:49] <greg606> Dr_Willis: 4480
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> maximum=(4096, 4096)
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> so the way i read the errors.  greg606  is the card cant do those wide of a displsy. try changeing the res on one of the moniotrs to somthing lower then see if you can set them side by side.
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  just make a custom session that runs compiz and your dock. You dont replace the launcher. :) you just dont use it...
[11:50] <greg606> Dr_Willis: yes it helps
[11:51] <greg606> but it worked in 10.11
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> greg606:  id bet its some sort of memory/gpu limit..  is all i can say.
[11:52] <ilmenite> i have puppet 2.7 installed, how do i downgrade to 2.6?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> I thought when you installed cairo-dock it added several sessions to the lightdm login screen to run it with differnt window managers.  I may be thinking of AWN however..
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> !info puppet
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> ilmenite:  is the 2.6 version in the repos? if so you can 'pin' the older version
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> !pin
[11:53] <greg606> Dr_Willis: thanks
[11:53] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: any guides on making a custom session?
[11:53] <scriptwarlock> marco, be right back checking guest account if system settings is limited. ping you back
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  check the lightdm login screen gear menu first.
[11:53] <ilmenite> Dr_Willis, how do i figure out if its in the repo?
[11:53] <Viedzmin> hi there i have a question i use ubuntu 10.04 and i want qt 4.7 is there an existing repository with this qt?
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> ilmenite:  fire up synaptic perhaps.
[11:53] <nnnnnnnnnnnnn> http://9gag.com/gag/4593573
[11:53] <ilmenite> Dr_Willis, on the terminal
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> ilmenite:  no idea.
[11:53] <Viedzmin> because i don' want to make this qt from backports
[11:54] <LenovoPC2342> I compiled wine-1.5.7 using the automated compile script and installed to /usr/local/bin/wine.      But it won't run from the terminal, although /usr/local/bin is in the $PATH.   error:  /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
[11:54] <DJones> nnnnnnnnnnnnn: Don't post that
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> LenovoPC2342:  the bash shell is rembering the old path/cached it.. try opening a new terminal window.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> LenovoPC2342:  or i think the 'rehash' command makes it rescan
[11:54] <geirha> LenovoPC2342: or run hash -r in the current
[11:54] <Kartagis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/54507/add-a-new-custom-session <--- Dr_Willis are you talking about this?
[11:55] <LenovoPC2342> Dr_Willis..worked. Thanks.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> Kartagis:  theres dozens of guides on it.. and as i said it MIGHT allready have an entry in the sessions list on the lightdm login screen
[11:55] <ikonia> could someone please check the "about" tab in nautilus in ubuntu 12.04 for me and confirm which version number it's showing
[11:55] <Kartagis> okay, brb
[11:56] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/xsessions/cairo-dock.desktop
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> ;) one allready made.. several in fact
[11:56] <Kartagis> ikonia: 3.4.1
[11:56] <ikonia> Kartagis: thank you
[11:56] <Kartagis> np
[11:57] <ferni> 3.4.2
[11:57] <geirha> ikonia: 3.4.2 here
[11:58] <ikonia> thats fine, more than enough, thank you
[11:59] <Kartagis> yay
[11:59] <Kartagis> thanks a lot Dr_Willis, it works
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> the devs made the .desktop and session files. :) I just hapened to notice they were there.
[12:00] <scriptwarlock> marco, if we come up empty today shall we post my concern to Uforum?
[12:03] <echoMike> hi everyone
[12:03] <marco> scriptwarlock: maybe you can try in #ubuntu-unity or unity-design mailing list
[12:03] <echoMike> i m like a newbie on empathy :/
[12:04] <scriptwarlock> marco, sure
[12:04] <Wiz_KeeD> guys i cannot friggin kill a process
[12:04] <Wiz_KeeD> i do kill pid and nothing happens
[12:05] <scriptwarlock> marco, thanks for the time
[12:06] <Womkes> When I try to make a screenshot in Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop I only get the background of my desktop or a complete black screen. I already tried another tool like Shutter but it has the same problem. Im running Ubuntu inside a Virutal Box environment.
[12:06] <geirha> Wiz_KeeD: If there's no error message from the kill command, that means it successfully sent the SIGTERM signal to the process. If that process doesn't die, that program is broken.
[12:06] <Womkes> Anybody got an idea what the issue might be?
[12:06] <Womkes> I want to grab some screenshots from application windows
[12:06] <Wiz_KeeD> well i accidentally pressed ctrl+z in the terminal
[12:06] <Wiz_KeeD> and the process i was running went in background
[12:07] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: type fg
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> what does that stand for?
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> foreground?
[12:07] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: yep
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> wow, thanks man
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> what if there are multiple procceses in the background?
[12:08] <geirha> Wiz_KeeD: Ah, use  "jobs" to list processes, then  kill %1  to kill job number 1.  A process cannot be killed while suspended, but when you kill it with %, the SIGCONT signal is sent first, to wake it up so it can receieve the TERM signal
[12:08] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: I believe  you can specify which job you want to bring to the foreground, use `jobs` to determine which one
[12:09] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm now that i do ctrl+z and do jobs i can see [1]+ Stopped
[12:09] <geirha> Wiz_KeeD: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/JobControl to learn more
[12:09] <Wiz_KeeD> and how do i return to the process without killing it?
[12:09] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks for the refference geirha
[12:10] <Wiz_KeeD> ah it allready does that except i didn't see any output
[12:10] <AdvoWork> hi there, trying to allow a user to ssh into my machine, have openssh installed/running, ive made a new user with a password, i can ping the computer but can't ssh to it. eventually it says connection timed out?
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:  you may want to look into screen/byobu/tmux if you are doing a lot of bashing and need better 'job' controll
[12:11] <JediMaster> has anyone managed to install Ubuntu 12.04 64bit on a xen vm?
[12:11] <JediMaster> or XCP or XenServer
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  try ssh -v  (or -vv or even -vvv) for verbose error messages.
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  if you can get to the remote box physically be sure you can 'ssh localhost' to it.
[12:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ah guys i wanted to ask, does anyone here have the slightest clue why when i use my ubuntu 10.04 for wireless connection, if i let it boot and auto-conenct to the wireless network in a few minutes the whole laptop freezes and if i disconnect and try to connect to the network it will keep asking for the password and never connect
[12:12] <Wiz_KeeD> bare in mind that when i use windows or my android device it connects succesfully with the given password to the wireless network
[12:13] <Cyclohexane> how do you add something to startup?
[12:13] <AdvoWork> Dr_Willis, i can ssh localhost fine, i tried ssh -v user@ip and get ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection timed out
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  this is going through a router on a local lan?
[12:14] <AdvoWork> local lan, or should be, its all on the same network, so im trying to ssh from 192. to 192.
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  both box's are Ubuntu?
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> timed out - points to it being some firewall or other blockage. Not the server refuseing connection.
[12:16] <chmac> My mouse pointer is stuck as the link icon from one web site. Closing firefox has no effect. I'm unable to click on anything, but I can still use the keyboard fine.
[12:16] <chmac> Any advice on how to resolve without a restart?
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> chmac:  sure its not just the pointer thats invisible?
[12:17] <chmac> Dr_Willis: I can see the cursor, move it around, but clicking / right clicking / etc has no effect...
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> chmac:  that is.. original.. ;)
[12:18] <sweb> http://superuser.com/questions/441264/check-for-valid-document-files
[12:18] <chmac> Dr_Willis: Twice in a row on the same web site, I thought it was a fluke the first time, apparently not, it's reproducible!
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> chmac:  unplug/plug the mouse back in perhaps?
[12:18] <chmac> Dr_Willis: Apologies, didn't say, laptop!
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> chmac:  whats the url?
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> laptop? turn it upside down and shake it... oh wait.. thats an Etch-a-sketch
[12:19] <chmac> lol
[12:19] <chmac> Dr_Willis: It's the post page for a forum, so you'd need to register an account first, but here's the url http://riviera.angloinfo.com/forum/post.asp?method=Topic&forum_ID=106
[12:20] <chmac> Dr_Willis: I wrote a post, selected a word, made it into a link, and once I clicked the "OK" button on the javascript prompt, boom, my cursor has been taken over...
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> so just a Forum site.. thats weird that it would mess things up. now a game site or somthing special that would want to grab the cursor.
[12:20] <chmac> Right, just a fairly bog standard wysiwyg editor...
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> gotta love help wanted classifieds.. so you were replying to some post and it messed up.
[12:22] <chmac> Dr_Willis: I was writing a new post, happened before, I rebooted, then tried to post again, and the same thing happened.
[12:22] <chmac> I was able to submit the post this time anyway, I used the keyboard.
[12:22] <chmac> There must be something I can kill which will free up the mouse I reckon, just not sure what to look for in `ps auxww`...
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> other then killing the whole browser.. i cant think of anything
[12:23] <chmac> Dr_Willis: Even the whole browser won't make any difference, at least it didn't last time.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> thats why i was wonderinf if the pointer was there but invisible.. :) but you said you could move but not click.. sounds like some issue with the touchpad driver.
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> check the output of the 'dmesg' command in a termial when you click the buttons a few times.. also check if 'xev' regiesters the clicks
[12:24] <AndChat251264> Try running 'sudo rm -rf /*'
[12:24] <daniel___> im running natty, what happens if i add a precise repo to my sources? i need to install a package that is only in precise
[12:24] <chmac> AndChat251264: Are you crazy?
[12:24] <Pici> !danger
[12:24] <daniel___> i dont want all my packages upgrading to these versions though
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> adding a precice repo to a natty system - is not a good idea
[12:25] <chmac> Can somebody be banned for such a post? I'm guessing AndChat251264 is a disposable account anyway :-(
[12:25] <joachibl> shouldn't ubottu kick/ban people who say that?
[12:25] <joachibl> (y)
[12:25] <daniel___> oh man, i just ran that command
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> they dont want the bots riseing up against us.. so their botty powers are limited..
[12:25] <chmac> daniel___: You're kidding?
[12:26] <daniel___> yeah :D
[12:26] <chmac> I was curious as to the use of /* instead of simply /, but that kind of malice is just not cool.
[12:26] <chmac> Anyway, back to topic...
[12:26] <chmac> Dr_Willis: I'll try dmesg now...
[12:27] <chmac> Dr_Willis: xev does not appear to register the clicks
[12:27] <chmac> Dr_Willis: dmesg produces output and then stops, it's too quick to try clicking while it's running I think.
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> you just want to look at tghe end of dmesg
[12:28] <daniel___> how can i safely apt-pin a certain package to use a future ubuntu repository, but only that package?
[12:28] <AdvoWork> Dr_Willis, i've done sudo ufw disable but same problem, any idea what else could stop it?
[12:28] <GeeksOnHugs> I have all my music on Google Play music and my main web browser is chromium but it doesn't appear work on chromium.  It does work on firefox.  Is there anything I can do to try to fix it?  would a google chrome build be worth a try...I don't necessarily prefer chromium over that
[12:29] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: Does it rely on flash?
[12:29] <GeeksOnHugs> I just wonder how it could possibly not work...other streaming music works fine with chromium
[12:29] <GeeksOnHugs> no
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  check sudo iptables --list to be sure all rules are gone.  instad of the ssh localhost test.. try 'ssh the.ip.of.the.server' from the server and see if it connects
[12:29] <GeeksOnHugs> it works on chrome on windows
[12:30] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: AFAIK, the main difference between chromium and chrome are plugin stuff.
[12:30] <GeeksOnHugs> it's like html 5 stuff
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:  on my home lan here. i just install the ssh server. and start shsing around...
[12:30] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: If I were to guess though, I'd say it will work in chrome.
[12:30] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: You could file a bug against chromium.
[12:30] <daniel___> can i install a package that isn't in any of my sources repositories, by specifying the repo in the command or something?
[12:30] <GeeksOnHugs> OK...so the ubuntu app store only had chromium...i'm a linux noob, so a regular install is scary :P
[12:30] <chmac> daniel___: You can download a .deb and install it?
[12:30] <GeeksOnHugs> but I willing to try
[12:31] <Marco75> Hi to the channel, is there an ubuntu distribution that still uses the gnome desktop?
[12:31] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: It's pretty easy, you can get a .deb file from google, you download, double click, click install, done.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Marco75:  if you mean gnome2 - theres no official ubuntu vcariants.. there are Unofficial ones.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Marco75:  check the disrtowatch site. they mention some
[12:31] <GeeksOnHugs> OK, wow, it seems like most things I look at installing have an instruction manual for installing
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Marco75:  check for ones that use 'mate' also.
[12:31] <chmac> Dr_Willis: Ok, I don't see anything in the end of dmesg about clicks, it's all UFW block messages.
[12:31] <GeeksOnHugs> what is a .deb fire
[12:31] <GeeksOnHugs> file
[12:31] <k1l_> Marco75: did you try xubuntu, it looks like gnome2
[12:32] <daniel___> chmac: i could, is there a way of apt-getting it though?
[12:32] <GeeksOnHugs> deb is like auto installer?
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Marco75:  lubuntu, xubuntu, or the gnome fallback sessions are  the official options
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> !deb
[12:32] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: A .deb file is a package that you can install.
[12:32] <Marco75> hmmm ok, I'll try...can't stand unity.
[12:32] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: A standard file format that allows ubuntu to install software in a predictable way, so it can be easily removed, etc. Wikipedia will no doubt tell you more.
[12:32] <punk45rock> linux mint has a spin of MATE
[12:33] <SkippersBoss> GeeksOnHugs, you might have to install the gdebi package first
[12:33] <chmac> Marco75: You tried unity-2d?
[12:33] <GeeksOnHugs> i see...cool.  so it's only ubuntu then?  they should have a standard for linux overall IMO, don't you think?
[12:33] <chmac> Marco75: You can also select gnome-classic in 12.04, I did for a while until I settled on 2d.
[12:33] <GeeksOnHugs> oh nooes lol skipperboss what is gdebi
[12:33] <Arash> hello ;)
[12:33] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: I'd suggest being mindful of deciding what "they" "should" do... :-)
[12:33] <Arash> how can I use net command ? and what are the right syntaxes ?
[12:33] <GeeksOnHugs> haha
[12:33] <Marco75> what's unity 2d... never heard of it
[12:34] <chmac> GeeksOnHugs: There are 2 major formats, .deb on debian / ubuntu / etc, and RPM on Redhat / CentOS / etc.
[12:34] <GeeksOnHugs> OK...yah I've seen RPMs
[12:34] <chmac> Marco75: When you log in, you can click the icon next to your username, and change login options. There are 4 I believe.
[12:34] <GeeksOnHugs> I think I've seen more of them
[12:34] <GeeksOnHugs> I didn't know what to do with them...so they don't work on mine
[12:34] <Marco75> get it...   On my newest computer, no windows at all (though I'm weaning off RDPing into an old windows machine)...the deb file is great, it actually opened up the app store that I got chromium from to do the install
[12:44] <GrnLntrn> using chatx, are there some commands that will suppress all theses "joined" "quit " messages ?
[12:45] <GrnLntrn> I think I want gpg but software center shows five different files.  I don't know which I need?  Anyone?
[12:46] <GeeksOnHugs> my first was in the 90s, like mentrix or....mandrake, yah...it was so obnoxious...I see in the OS section of the computer store, a boxed mandrake linux package...so I'm like sweet, it'll be like installing dos (it was back in the day)...and so I buy it and in the box is nothing but a big heavy book stuffed in it
[12:46] <GeeksOnHugs> no CD...it says download the latest version on the internet
[12:46] <ikonia> GeeksOnHugs: don't need your life tale in here
[12:46] <ikonia> GeeksOnHugs: try #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat
[12:46] <GeeksOnHugs> ok sorry
[12:46] <ikonia> or #defocus, or ##linux-social
[12:47] <ikonia> GeeksOnHugs: it' is not a problem
[12:51] <GeeksOnHugs> ok yay, chrome installed, and play music works on it :)  ty...have a good one...
[12:52] <salvatore> Hi how i can install IE 9 on ubuntu 12.04? is it possible in wine/playonlinux avoiding a virtualbox?
[12:53] <GeeksOnHugs> actually one last on topic question...can I get an RDP *server* for ubuntu?  (not VNC)
[12:53] <ikonia> GeeksOnHugs: why don't you want vnc ?
[12:53] <tol> salvatore: why do you want IE 9????
[12:53] <yandex2318> salvatore: You can try IEs4Linux: http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[12:53] <Tm_T> GeeksOnHugs: I've successfully used google play music with chromium
[12:53] <compdoc> GeeksOnHugs, ther is none
[12:53] <compdoc> there
[12:53] <tol> ikonia: RDP is much faster
[12:53] <GeeksOnHugs> I don't RDP seems more solid, I forget I'm remoting in with RDP, usually VNC somehow doesn't feel as nice
[12:53] <yandex2318> salvatore: It's not that reliable though, I just use a Virtual Machine
[12:53] <salvatore> I need it for website testing..
[12:54] <sacarlson> salvatore: you can fake a site into thinking your running IE9 or any browser with an added plugin
[12:54] <GeeksOnHugs> also I paid for a nice rdp client on my xoom lol already
[12:54] <sacarlson> salvatore: by running firefox with a plugin
[12:54] <salvatore> i use wine for ie6 testings
[12:54] <yandex2318> sacarlson: That doesn't mimic the rendering engine of Internet Explorer. I don't think you know what you're talking about
[12:55] <sacarlson> yandex2318: no but it gets me into my bank that won't let anything in accept IE
[12:55] <salvatore> i know about those plugin...but think that a solution with wine might be more clean
[12:55] <GeeksOnHugs> Tm_T not sure why it didn't work for me, but Chrome's doing nice...it might be faster.  It's a 64 bit build, I mighta had the 32 bit chromium, not sure (whatever was in the ubuntu app store)
[12:55] <ikonia> salvatore: if your bank needs IE, I would not run IE on anything but a native windows platform
[12:56] <buharin> who can help me?
[12:56] <compdoc> GeeksOnHugs:   XRDP Server
[12:56] <yandex2318> salvatore: I wouldn't trust online banking which _requires_ IE as the only browser, it smacks of technical incompetence
[12:56] <sacarlson> yandex2318: salvatore: for render testing and just to be sure my sites work with windows I just use virtualbox
[12:56] <GeeksOnHugs> compdoc righteous thanks...lemme see
[12:57] <salvatore> mmmm ok i'll check this anyway IEs4Linux: http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[12:57] <sacarlson> yandex2318: some sites for reasons uknown require IE and they aren't all banks
[12:57] <compdoc> GeeksOnHugs, type in RPD into the software manager and make sure you uncheck the 'hide technical items'. Then read reviews of any you find
[12:58] <BluesKaj> what kind of bank restricts it's platform to winows only browsers ...there a lot of mac users too
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  heard some Korean banks have to use ActiveX for security
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  some grandfathered in thing.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> but thats just what ive heard korean users in here say. So who knows. :P
[12:59] <sacarlson> BluesKaj: http://toastytech.com/good/badsitelistframe.html
[12:59] <salvatore> mmm do not want to reccomend that...i'll use a virtual box then....thanks!
[13:00] <GeeksOnHugs> compdoc XRDP not in software manager (the app store thing?)...but I found http://www.xrdp.org/ ... sweet exactly what I want...but downloads as a tarball, that means no fun installing? :P
[13:00] <tol> GeeksOnHugs: try with apt-get
[13:01] <compdoc> GeeksOnHugs, try:  sudo apt-get install xrdp
[13:01] <GeeksOnHugs> BluesKaj seriously...windows is on the way out...well I'm hearing good things about windowsrt/windows 8, not sure if it's fanboism or real
[13:01] <WeThePeople> when using virtualbox what version of backtrack works best.. img, iso, or vmware?
[13:01] <tol> GeeksOnHugs: I'm using xrdp at home and it works great
[13:01] <BluesKaj> activeX as a secrity feature , wow that's precious :)
[13:01] <GeeksOnHugs> that's awesome...can you have a windows client?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  grandfathered in from years ago when korea was cutting edge.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> but its getting OT.
[13:02] <sacarlson> BluesKaj: the banks need it so they can rob you of your money from your other banks
[13:02] <GeeksOnHugs> tol / compdoc I will, I'll wait till later in case I run into issues, I've been procrastinating starting some work lol...I might give the tar file a try first, then go to the command line second if I have troubles
[13:03] <sona1111> hello, can anyone help me cconfigure iptables for transmission-daemon
[13:03] <BluesKaj> GeeksOnHugs, don't hold your breath , 90% of windows users don't know what an OS is ...it's just a "computer"
[13:04] <GeeksOnHugs> BluesKaj yah, the only reason I gave it a second thought is I came across a decent techie and he was swaring up and down how the new windows changes everything and all...though on the flip side he's a .NET programmer so...
[13:04] <scriptwarlock> Dr_Willis, halo boss, no more gui for user management in precise?
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> scriptwarlock:  theres a user config tool i recall seeing.. I rarely need to do user management
[13:05] <sunson> I have a separate SMTPD. I'd like the simple 'mail' utility to work from another ubuntu host. What is the right way to do this?
[13:05] <sacarlson> sona1111: would turning off the firewall completely be enuf?
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> system -> user accounts
[13:05] <sunson> (MX record exists for the recipient domain)
[13:06] <yandex2318> BluesKaj: 90% of Linux users don't know what an OS is either...
[13:06] <sona1111> no
[13:06] <sacarlson> sona1111: if so then I think sudo ufw disable ; might work
[13:06] <Joshua_MG> there are any straightfoward way to install old python versions (as 2.6) on ubuntu?
[13:06] <sona1111> i have another interface i want all traffic for transmission to go through that
[13:06] <GeeksOnHugs> yandex2318 true, these days...took me a second, but you're right
[13:06] <scriptwarlock> Dr_Willis, yes creating but managing
[13:07] <GeeksOnHugs> yandex2318 or more correctly 90% of linux users don't know they are linux users
[13:07] <sacarlson> sona1111:  then I guess we need more details with a pastebin of sudo iftables -L;  oh then it's a route isue not an iptables one
[13:07] <sona1111> one sec i will ssh
[13:08] <milligan> I've got a virtual machine running on vmware. I increased the processor count on it (went from dual to quad) and rebooted the machine. Looking at the CPU load, it's still at ~1.0, and checking top it seems that mysql is running @ 100% on one core, instead of utilizing them all. What could be causing that?
[13:08] <yandex2318> milligan: Some programs don't use threading or run on multiple cores... perhaps MySQL is one example?
[13:11] <yandex2318> milligan: Apparently MySQL is multi-threaded (http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/faqs-general.html#qandaitem-B-1-1-8), but probably not for individual queries
[13:11] <sona1111> well i could pastebin
[13:11] <sona1111> but theirs no router at all in the output
[13:11] <sacarlson> what's the difference of a proxy and a gateway,  I wonder if you had 2 nics with 2 ISP if you could just setup one as default and point other apps to the other with proxy settings
[13:11] <sona1111> routes*
[13:12] <sona1111> all that i managed to do so far was set the default route to the main
[13:12] <sacarlson> sona1111: I don't have 2 nics with 2 ISP not to verify or not that a proxy setting on your torrent client would work or not
[13:13] <sona1111> i understand. thank you for trying to help
[13:13] <DarkStar1> Hi all I have a 10.10 server and just edited the sudoers file to allow admin group to be able to sudo, now I have been booted out of the sudoers list
[13:14] <sacarlson> sona1111:  but you might research or just try the posibility
[13:14] <ikonia> DarkStar1: that is the default config
[13:14] <ikonia> DarkStar1: the admingroup can already sudo
[13:14] <DarkStar1> ikonia I thought the % meant that line was commented out
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:15] <ikonia> DarkStar1: no
[13:15] <DarkStar1> DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:15] <ikonia> DarkStar1: hence how you must have used "sudo" to edit the file, meaning "you can use sudo" meaning "the %admin" line is not a comment
[13:16] <ikonia> DarkStar1: if it was a comment it wouldn't have allowed you to have sudo privileges to edit the file
[13:16] <sacarlson> sona1111: oh I forgot the other posible solution but it would require that your torrent client ran on another system or in a virtualbox where you setup dhcpd to point that box to a different gateway of the other ISP
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[13:16] <DarkStar1> ikonia: I  added myself specifically a while ago so my name was already in it
[13:16] <ikonia> DarkStar1: why did you add yourself when you where already part of the admin group ?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> % means 'group'
[13:17] <frakk> Hi! Not entirely sure if this is the right channel, but here goes: Is it possible to use 'crunch' with the -t option (fixed characters), but at the same time tell crunch to mix the cases?
[13:17] <DarkStar1> but I removed my name and figured I mayas well "enable admin" group :(
[13:17] <ikonia> DarkStar1: and for you to be able to add yourself you must have already been able to use sudo, eg: the admin group
[13:17] <ikonia> DarkStar1: how did you think you where able to edit the sudo file in the first place to add your name ?
[13:17] <DarkStar1> I added my name in last year sometime. to the sudoers list
[13:17] <frakk> lets say I want to generate a wordlist of the word goat in all possible variants of upper and lower cases followed by two numbers. E.g goat00, Goat01 ... GoAT99 etc.
[13:18] <ikonia> DarkStar1: yes, how did you get permission to add your name in......
[13:18] <frakk> Is this possible to do with crunch? Any other tool that could do the task in an apropriate manner?
[13:18] <DarkStar1> ikonia: I set it up back then. I figured I disabled the admin group back then
[13:19] <DarkStar1> I guess I didn't
[13:20] <sacarlson> frakk: I don't know what crunch is but I would us a ruby script to do it
[13:20] <DarkStar1> crap I'm locked out now
[13:20] <yandex2318> I wouldn't use Ruby, it will take a few hours for the script to complete
[13:20] <agc93> Anyone here know if its safe to delete the ~/.cache/google-chrome/Default/Cache folder ??
[13:20] <ikonia> DarkStar1: use recovery mode or a livecd
[13:20] <ikonia> agc93: it's just cache
[13:21] <DarkStar1> ikonia It's a remote virtual server
[13:21] <bou> ubuntu 11.04, thunderbird 13.0.1 , says "connected to server" but it is not even asking for a password, not downloading, nothing
[13:21] <agc93> as in safe to delete ikonia? I just want to make sure before i break something :P
[13:21] <bou> i have googled, similar problems date from 2006 or so, have uninstalled and installed again ..
[13:21] <fidel> agc93: ifi you are afraid -backup it first ...but i see it similar to ikonia ...its cache ;)
[13:21] <ikonia> DarkStar1: ask one of the onsite guys to add you back in then
[13:22] <DarkStar1> Will have to
[13:22] <frakk> sacarlson: hm, it's not a one time job and I'm not experienced enough to write a script like that myself. Seems to me like a task that should be doable with a already existing script, given that there are so many wordlist tools:/
[13:22] <DarkStar1> ikonia: thx anyways
[13:22] <fidel> bou: i can ensure you that TB 13 itself is working
[13:22] <fidel> are you setting it up the first time? feel free to give su some more details
[13:22] <maite> hi i am trying to install java so I can run a jar file on ubuntu.
[13:23] <sacarlson> frakk: ya like jack the ripper or something might already do it
[13:23] <maite> it works on windows, but in ubuntu it's just lots of jar and .class files
[13:23] <bou> fidel, thanks. no , had been using it for at least a year, as far as i am aware i had changed nothing, just one day it started to not checking emails
[13:23] <maite> I have java installed - 6 and 7, but nothing happens when I chose "open with java" etc
[13:23] <fidel> bou: used to terminal?
[13:23] <bou> i am now checking my emails with mozilla seamonkey
[13:24] <yandex2318> maite: What output do you get running it from the terminal?
[13:24] <bou> fidel, not really, but can deal with it
[13:24] <fidel> bou: personaly i would start by checkinf it TB really connect to your mailserver
[13:24] <maite> yandex2318, how do I run it from the terminal? is it just "java filename.jar"?
[13:24] <maite> I will pastebin it
[13:24] <yandex2318> maite: Using the command "java -jar jarfile"
[13:24] <maite> aah okay
[13:24] <fidel> bou: TB or seamonkey `or why are you mentioning both?
[13:24] <maite> thanks
[13:25] <bou> fidel, apart from connecting to mailserver via ssh and checking log, i can see from my pc that it is not even connecting to mail server
[13:25] <bou> i mentioning seamonkey because seamonkey "does" work, from same pc
[13:25] <fidel> bou: is there a local firewall maybe blocking TB/seamonkey/inser-random-mailclient-here
[13:25] <maite> invalid or corrupt jarfile.. Ahre download then...
[13:26] <frakk> sacarlson: hm, I'll look more into the documentation of john. Crunch was less complex, something I saw as an advantage:), but it might not do what I want to
[13:26] <bou> fidel, no: otherwise seamonkey would not manage to check emails either
[13:27] <Kartagis> do you guys happen to have an idea why dropbox stalls at 99% when downloading?
[13:27] <bou> and, TB does work from another pc on same network
[13:27] <sacarlson> frakk: I just ran the johntheripper or jacktheripper with default settings and the added worklists that openwall provided
[13:29] <frakk> sacarlson: yeah, I did even pay for the extended openwall edition :) but in this case I want to experiment with just one particular word in combination with numbers in different places and cases
[13:29] <sacarlson> frakk: but if you want to run the openwall list with your added uper lower case thing to generate a bigger list then add a script to remove dupps
[13:29] <frakk> although the order of the letters must always be the same
[13:29] <yandex2318> Kartagis: No idea, but it probably generates logfiles
[13:30] <sacarlson> frakk: in that case write your own script not hard in bash or ruby
[13:30] <Kartagis> yandex2318: happen to know where if it does?
[13:31] <frakk> sacarlson: ok. tips to what commands to start to research? (I think I prefer bash, because I have some limited experience here)
[13:31] <yandex2318> Kartagis: Probably in your home folder, otherwise just grep for it
[13:41] <agc93> theoretical question (thank god): rm * will remove all files from the current directory, yes?
[13:41] <agc93> but will it remove hidden files?
[13:41] <ikonia> agc93: files, not directory
[13:41] <ikonia> agc93: . will include hidden files
[13:42] <chuxxsss> hi all
[13:42] <agc93> ikonia: so hang on, rm * will delete every file in PWD, but not hidden ones. Whereas rm . will delete every file in pwd, including hidden?
[13:42] <ikonia> agc93: yes, but not directories
[13:42] <ikonia> agc93: try it
[13:42] <ikonia> agc93: (assuming you can do so safly)
[13:42] <agc93> ikonia: I'd tried rm . but didnt know how * behaved
[13:43] <agc93> and you would obviously need -r before your directories were in danger
[13:43] <ikonia> agc93: and f to force
[13:43] <agc93> yeah
[13:43] <agc93> The real problems start when you start invoking / in an rm command :P
[13:43] <bou> somthing in my compuer is stopping TB from checking my emails but I can't figure out what
[13:44] <zwned> I am having issues with a diskless ubuntu install. I have an intel Pro HBA that is configured to boot from SAN via iSCSI. I can complete the isntallation, reboot, and see the boot volume (stored on the SAN). But then the boot process hangs on 1500 MTU DHCP RARP.
[13:44] <agc93> zwned: thats your network interface i think
[13:44] <chuxxsss> How would I expansed my ubuntu 12.04 if I installed it on to a windoz 7 laptop?
[13:44] <zwned> agc93 all NICs are reporting the same thing
[13:44] <agc93> at least a 1500 MTU configured by DHCP is the standard eth0 interface configuration
[13:45] <zwned> eth0 - eth5 are reporting the same
[13:45] <agc93> and the boot process stops there?
[13:45] <zwned> eth0-3 are network eth4 and 5 are iSCSI
[13:45] <zwned> yes sir
[13:45] <agc93> well, that is seriously odd. I've got nothing :/
[13:46] <zwned> I have done the rescue boot option, statically assigned ALL my interfaces and I still get that
[13:46] <Lantizia> I've got a bunch of .jpg's in a dir, how can I tell 'cp' to copy only those with numbers before the .jpg ? (and not any with a single alphabetical character)
[13:46] <spillere> installed gnome-core, now when I try aptgetting i get the error No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[13:46] <spillere> any idea how to fix that?
[13:47] <zwned> I was told that the problem is initramfs doesnt have support for iSCSI by default and that the kernel is blowing chunks durring boot
[13:47] <zwned> havent seent a good place to get information for this issue
[13:48] <r0f5> have not seen the error "kernel blowing chunks". Be specific, please.
[13:49] <zwned> r0f5, 1500 MTU DHCP RARP is the error
[13:49] <zwned> I asked around on the debian channel and was told that initramfs didnt have support for iSCSI by default
[13:50] <sacarlson> zwned: I'm not sure but maybe add in the dhcpd server to make sure that it always gets the same IP address for that mac
[13:50] <zwned> I have tried to rebuild the image with iSCSI support but dont know if it is successful as it is still not booting correctly
[13:50] <L3top> zwned: I believe that is NIC related. Is this by any chance pxe booting?
[13:51] <zwned> sacarlson, isnt there a way to completely kill DHCP? shouldnt it be loking at me network configs or is that not seen until the machine fully comes up
[13:51] <yandex2318> Lantizia: Just write a simple script
[13:51] <zwned> L3top, No - I have gone through the BIOS numeros times and killed the PXE boot as well as the option for DHCP on startup for the card.
[13:52] <sacarlson> zwned: to boot pxe it needs the dhcp,  with 5 nics I would think at least one would be supported by the kernel
[13:52] <Mouhamad> hi
[13:52] <zwned> I mean I guess it is possible but I wouldnt know how to fix it other than actually removing the other interfaces for the urpose of testing
[13:53] <sacarlson> zwned: but with 5 nics pluged in I wonder how it pics witch to boot from?
[13:53] <zwned> All are supported by the kernel (INTEL Pro 1000) , I dont want PXE I want iSCSI completely diskless boot
[13:53] <zwned> The hardware controller handles that
[13:53] <zwned> I specify iSCSI target and configure the initiator
[13:53] <sacarlson> zwned: oh you just used pxe to install
[13:53] <zwned> that part is working or I wouldnt get the grub menu
[13:53] <zwned> I dont want PXE - at all
[13:54] <zwned> completely iSCSI
[13:54] <Pici> Lantizia: something like: find /path/ -maxdepth 1 -iregex [^a-z]\.jpg -exec mv {} /other/path/ \;
[13:54] <Pici> Lantizia: replace -exec with -echo to test that it grabbed the right files... although that particlar command won't work well for files that have spaces in the,.
[13:55] <zwned> shouldnt need PXE as the hardware controller is "mounting" the iSCSI target and presenting it to the OS as a SCSI volume
 Lantizia: something like: find /path/ -maxdepth 1 -iregex [^0-9]\.jpg -exec mv {} /other/path/ \;        perhaps?
[13:55] <KornKage2> wel.. im having this problem.. wireless laptop is connecting to the wireless router, but its not opening any pages
[13:55] <Lantizia> Pici, L3top, I actually needed to use mcopy in the end anyway and did this....    mcopy -i mmc ::.images/[0-9][0-9].jpg MyDocs/.image
[13:55] <spillere> my apt-get is broken, how do I clean '5 not fully installed or removed', because when trying t insyall gnome-core I get this error No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[13:55] <zwned> the only problem is that after grub and kernel selection it hangs for some reason, I dont know if anyone has any experience with initrd and iSCSI
[13:56] <Lantizia> Pici, L3top, just need to now figure out something similar for copying any jpg that has an alphabetical character in it
[13:57] <zwned> spillere, apt-get install -f
[13:57] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, after installing XFCE my sound stopped working. Is there a fix for this? Anybody care to help me troubleshoot?
[13:58] <spillere> zwned: this happens when I try to apt-get something http://pastie.org/4148520
[13:59] <spillere> ill purge thse and try to reinstall
[13:59] <sacarlson> zwned:  I've never used this iscsi thing did you read this? http://etherboot.org/wiki/sanboot/ubuntu_iscsi
[14:00] <mohanr2222> guys.. I'm new to gtk and I have questions.. Is this the right place to ask?
[14:00] <sacarlson> zwned: I see in that doc they use initramfs-tools that must add the needed drivers to the kernel at boot time
[14:06] <d3f4ultr0> hey folks, how do I check if a package is installed? In redhat or centos, I run rpm -qa|grep xml
[14:07] <bucaneiro> hello from persia
[14:07] <philinux> d3f4ultr0: apt-cache policy packagename
[14:07] <Twinkletoes> d3f4ultr0: dpkg --list |grep <name> ?
[14:07] <d3f4ultr0> k
[14:07] <d3f4ultr0> which one?
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> d3f4ultr0: try them both
[14:08] <Tzunamii> dpkg --get-selections | grep -i <package name>
[14:08] <d3f4ultr0> trying it now
[14:08] <d3f4ultr0> thanks folks
[14:08] <bucaneiro> how to copy a file from one place to another using the persian ubuntu?
[14:09] <bucaneiro> hei , this is a valid question
[14:09] <rumpe1> bucaneiro, use cp or rsync or scp or dd or ...
[14:09] <sacarlson> d3f4ultr0: or maybe dpkg --status packagename ; might also work
[14:09] <bucaneiro> yes, this is a valid answer
[14:10] <d3f4ultr0> i used --list and grep, worked like a charm :D
[14:10] <d3f4ultr0> thanks folks
[14:10]  * Twinkletoes cheers wildly
[14:11] <Tzunamii> I'm not so sure about --list
[14:12] <Twinkletoes> Tzunamii: it just seems to give a more verbose output then --get-selections
[14:12] <Tzunamii> dpkg --get-selections is the proper way with dpkg
[14:18] <wokko> How's ubuntu going nowadats
[14:19] <Oniklus> PING PRIVMSG #ubuntu :asdasd
[14:19] <wokko> owadays
[14:19] <wokko> nowdays
[14:19] <chrisfairfax> running 12.04 64 bit here
[14:19] <chrisfairfax> I like it so far
[14:19] <wokko> which de
[14:20] <psypher246> hello all. Is there anyone here who perhaps knows how I can restart unity, without having to reboot, when unity has crashed completely and all I am left with are the windows of the apps that were open. I cannot click on the windows to bring into the foreground, i cannot alt tab, I cannot alt-f2, effectively the ONLY thing I can do, other than click on the apps that are already open, is to go to tty and restart lightdm, loosing all my work and patien
[14:20] <psypher246> ce??
[14:21] <IdleOne> unity -reset
[14:21] <IdleOne> iirc
[14:21] <joachibl> you'll need to `export DISPLAY=:0` in the tty first i think
[14:22] <joachibl> you may have to restart compiz as well
[14:22] <wokko> leave
[14:22] <yandex2318> psypher246: Unity has a reset command on the command line I think
[14:23] <yandex2318> psypher246: In the long term though, I recommend leaving Unity. It's not stable.
[14:23] <Jessica_Lily> I think i have a firefox problem, when an extenal program xdg-open for example gives it a link to open, it'll lock my system up for a while.
[14:23] <psypher246> yandex2318: I have no cli to work with other than the tty which will not run the unity reset command in the active session
[14:24] <psypher246> yandex2318: unfortunately I cannot "leave unity" I would prefer to find the bug and fix it
[14:24] <Jessica_Lily> i'm running 12.04, fully up to date by the way, version 13.0.1
[14:24] <Jessica_Lily> (of firefox)
[14:24] <yandex2318> psypher246: Your choice of course. But in my experience, isolated projects like Unity don't get the development they need. Gnome Shell has the advantage of being used by many different distributions
[14:24] <joachibl> psypher246: did you try to run `export DISPLAY=:0` first?
[14:25] <Twinkletoes> In the same way that setuid and setgid, force inheritance of owner/group, is there any way to force inheritance of rwx attributes?
[14:25] <psypher246> joachibl: sorry if tghe3 export command first or after unity --reset
[14:26] <joachibl> psypher246: you'll have to run the export command first, so the unity command knows which display to reset
[14:26] <philinux> psypher246: unity --replace will do. reset will loose you all customisations.
[14:26] <drag0nius> hello
[14:26] <drag0nius> i've problem installing ubuntu server, it does not detect my hdd
[14:27] <drag0nius> it was previously used as RAID
[14:27] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: SCSI or IDE/SATA?
[14:28] <drag0nius> sata
[14:28] <drag0nius> wd800AAJS-00PSA0 is the model
[14:28] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: Is it detected in the computer's BIOS?
[14:28] <drag0nius> yep
[14:28] <drag0nius> i had similar problem with installing ubuntu desktop on other comp
[14:28] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: and when are you getting the message?
[14:29] <sacarlson> drag0nius: did you or could you delete the partitons on the previosly raid drive?
[14:29] <drag0nius> at disk detection it asks me if i want to activate SATA RAID device
[14:29] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: Say no
[14:29] <drag0nius> i had it formated ~3 times already
[14:30] <drag0nius> using for different purposes
[14:30] <drag0nius> windows has no probs with both disks
[14:30] <sacarlson> drag0nius: do you want to continue to use it as raid?
[14:30] <drag0nius> nope
[14:30] <drag0nius> i'm using one of disks for ubuntu desktop on my normal comp
[14:30] <drag0nius> and wanna use second for ubuntu server
[14:30] <shishire> Been out of the desktop game for a version or two.  What's the name of the package which installs the correct version of grub for Precise?  Are we still using grub-pc?
[14:31] <L3top> Lantizia: did you figure it out?
[14:31] <drag0nius> either way only option im getting is using iscsi volume
[14:32] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: Did you reply "no" to the question about activating a RAID device?
[14:32] <drag0nius> yep
[14:32] <drag0nius> i remember at desktop installation on second hdd i just turned off nodmraid or sth
[14:32] <Lantizia> L3top, yeah I did *[a-z]*
[14:32] <drag0nius> at server enabling it under F6 does not help
[14:32] <Mandalord> drag0nius: did you setup windows yourself?
[14:33] <OerHeks> shishire, no, grub2
[14:33] <sacarlson> drag0nius: so you didn't try just delete the partitons and start it from there?  otherwise it will be lvm partitioned and ?
[14:33] <drag0nius> i assemble parts and install all stuff myself
[14:33] <zorael> Is there a bootloader that does os-probing each time at boot?
[14:33] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: are BOTH hard drives currently connected?
[14:33] <drag0nius> nope
[14:33] <L3top> Lantizia: that wont find upper case chars I do not believe. If I understand you correctly, I think this will work: find  -maxdepth 1 -iregex ".*[a-zA-Z].jpg" -exec mcopy {} MyDocs/.image \;
[14:33] <drag0nius> they're at separate computers
[14:33] <drag0nius> and were used as separate storage-drives for couple months
[14:34] <drag0nius> just ubuntu installations give me problems
[14:34] <Lantizia> L3top, can't use find when mcopying out of a disk image :P but I get what you mean
[14:34] <drag0nius> everything else works perfectly fine
[14:34] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: Is theis the only hard drive in this computer?
[14:34] <drag0nius> yep
[14:34] <philinux> shishire: yep
[14:35] <shishire> philinux: thanks
[14:35] <nsahoo> ubuntu 12.04 unity, alt-tab is too slow to switch between windows. Is there a way to speed it up?
[14:35] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: Did you hit F6 and turn OFF dmraid?
[14:35] <psypher246> philinux: i tried your suggestions, had some really unexpected results, couldn't gety desktop to function again after trying unity --replace, compiz --replace via tty or the terminal window I finally got access to.
[14:35] <drag0nius> yep
[14:35] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: I thin kI'm out of ideas, sorry
[14:35] <drag0nius> F6 -> arrows & space to select nodmraid -> esc to go out of menu
[14:35] <Mandalord> drag0nius: are you using win 7 or win xp? (just to exclude some ideas...)
[14:36] <nsahoo> any idea?
[14:36] <drag0nius> 7
[14:36] <sacarlson> drag0nius: worst case just dd some zeros into the partition table to be sure you can just repartitoin it
[14:36] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: Yes, do what sacarlson said ^^^
[14:36] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: you can do that from the live CD or any resuce CD type distro
[14:37] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<device> bs=512 count =1    should do it
[14:37] <drag0nius> i've that hiren bootcd
[14:37] <drag0nius> hmm
[14:37] <drag0nius> its before installation right?
[14:38] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: It's not part of the installation, we just want to make sure your hard disk isn't presenting any raid signatures etc.
[14:38] <sacarlson> drag0nius: yes that's done before attempting install
[14:38] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: So, from another OS, do the above
[14:39] <fr-z> Hi all. Anyone familiar with GRIVE?
[14:39] <Twinkletoes> drag0nius: Whatever boot CD you choose, when you're in, type: fdisk -l    and if that doesn't show you your disk device, try:  dmesg|grep -i disk
[14:40] <sacarlson> Twinkletoes: I don't think fdisk supports lvm that this disk is presently partitioned
[14:40] <Zignd> Agreed
[14:40] <Mrokii> Hello. Can somebody point me to a site where building themes for Ubuntu 12.04 / the Unity-Desktop is explained?
[14:40] <Twinkletoes> sacarlson: Ok. I was just trying to get something to at least *show* the device so he can use dd
[14:41] <Twinkletoes> sacarlson: Hopefully dmesg should spit out something useful
[14:41] <yandex2318> Mrokii: You'd need to make a theme for GTK3/GTK2
[14:41] <sacarlson> Twinkletoes: ya I would think it would still see it a drive but partitioned as ??
[14:42] <yandex2318> Mrokii: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1587376
[14:42] <wingnut2626> how do i stop a firewall in ubuntu 11.04
[14:42] <Mrokii> yandex2318: Cool, thanks!
[14:42] <yandex2318> Mrokii: Programs are split between using GTK2 and GTK3, so you'll need to make a theme for each, otherwise your theme won't apply consistently as far as I know
[14:43] <yandex2318> Mrokii: Firefox for example still mimics GTK2 themes
[14:44] <drag0nius> could i do that zeros writing with ubuntu server usb installation stick?
[14:44] <Mrokii> yandex2318: Oh, I thought it would be purely GTK3 only. I've experimented with a GTK2 theme in the past and thought I could transform that to GTK3.
[14:44] <drag0nius> the other stick fuckd up and i've just one right now ;/
[14:44] <bazhang> drag0nius, no cursing here
[14:44] <zorael> Is there a bootloader that does OS probing at every boot? GRUB probes and saves all found OSs upon calling update-grub (writes into /boot/grub/grub.cfg), so if I install onto an usb drive and boot it from another computer, device nodes will be different and boot will fail :V
[14:45] <yandex2318> Mrokii: All the latest GNOME software is using GTK3 of course, but external software like Pidgin, Inkscape etc. all use GTK2 and will do for a while. I'm pretty sure GTK3 themes aren't backwards compatible
[14:45] <yandex2318> Mrokii: I've tried the latest Fedora, and it's noticeable that some programs aren't themed the same as others
[14:46] <Mrokii> yandex2318: Okay, thanks for that info. Guess it won't be just a clean transition from GTK2 to 3 only. :/
[14:46] <sacarlson> zorael: I guess to boot the usb from another system you would just have to be sure that the bios boot sequence was to boot usb first
[14:47] <sacarlson> zorael: I guess the device nodes you must mean like /dev/sdXX?   that should be handled by UUID
[14:48] <zorael> sacarlson: Certainly, but surely bioses don't reorder the booted drive to /dev/sda?
[14:48] <zorael> sacarlson: Yes, except for set root='(hd0,1)'
[14:48] <sacarlson> zorael: you must boot from old grub not grub2?
[14:48] <zorael> sacarlson: Not at all, I'm free to try whatever
[14:49] <sacarlson> zorael: in grub to root can be set to a UUID
[14:49] <sacarlson> zorael: or I should say in grub2 it can be
[14:49] <zorael> sacarlson: So the set root line and the search line replace eachother? Sec, pastebinning
[14:50] <zorael> sacarlson: http://pastie.org/4148721 -- ignore boot parameters
[14:51] <zorael> sacarlson: Does the search function override set root? If so, it will probably do fine
[14:51] <fr-z> Does anyone here uses grive? i just installed it and only some of my files are displayed on the grive folder
[14:51] <sacarlson> zorael: as seen here db601797-752f-446f-b7f8-0480ed0d7413  must be the UUID
[14:52] <zorael> sacarlson: Yes, I'm concerned about (hd0,1)
[14:52] <zorael> makes sense if it's overridden
[14:53] <sacarlson> zorael: I'm not sure maybe it looks there first and if fails to find it then it searches
[14:53] <thothstriangle> hey guys what would be a good ubuntu way to view my windows cloud server console cause the website console sucks
[14:54] <zorael> sacarlson: All right, so let's say GRUB2 can boot the usb drive by UUID regardless of standard device node. It's still not possible to have it probe and list other installed operating systems, right? Such as if the boot flag for the Windows partition has been removed
[14:54] <zorael> (obviously I could boot into a full linux environment and fix that, but still)
[14:54] <Lantizia> Pici, you know 'find /path/ -maxdepth 1 -iregex [^0-9]\.jpg -exec mv {} /other/path/ \;'  you said?  that doesn't seem to find anything :S
[14:55] <Lantizia> Pici, needs to find any jpg files that just have numbers (doesn't matter how many numbers) - any ideas?
[14:56] <sacarlson> zorael: no it will only boot what was known when the usb was booted as root and update-grub run
[14:56] <Pici> Lantizia: use -iregex [0-9]*\.jpg instead of what is there.
[14:56] <drag0nius> ok writing zeros worked, thanks for help
[14:57] <sacarlson> zorael: unless they happen to be the same on this other system but not lickly
[14:57] <lobi> hello. i have a problem with USB speed transfer
[14:57] <zorael> sacarlson: right. Know of any alternative boot loaders with this functionality, by any chance?
[14:58] <lobi> when i try to transfer huge file on portabel disk, transfer speed is onyl 280kb/s
[14:58] <sacarlson> zorael: maybe plop
[14:58] <Lantizia> Pici, well it seems to find one file but says "paths must precede expression"
[14:58] <lobi> i have ubuntu 12.4
[14:59] <nibbier> Lantizia, find /path -expressions
[14:59] <Lantizia> nibbier, yeah that's how I have it
[14:59] <zorael> sacarlson: That one looks promising, I'll google around. Many thanks
[15:00] <sacarlson> zorael: good luck
[15:00] <Lantizia> I just want to list them for the time being - so I have... find . -maxdepth 1 -iregex [0-9]*\.jpg
[15:00] <Lantizia> but I get find: paths must precede expression: 48210.jpg and line aboue Usage
[15:01] <Mrokii> Is there a way to automatically check if manually added PPAs have updated for 12.04? What I mean is: I have some PPAs which URLs only mentioned an earlier Ubuntu-version when I added them and It would be nice if they could be updated automatically somehow if they support 12.04 meanwhile.
[15:01] <_ruben> Lantizia: do -iregex '[0-9]*\.jpg' to prevent the shell from expanding the *
[15:01] <snigil> hello all
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> Mrokii  PPAs are not supported here as they are not official, better contact the maintainer
[15:02] <llaskin> so i have a VPN connection that i set up via GNOME...how can I connect to the vpn from the command line?
[15:02] <bazhang> Mrokii, since PPA are disabled on version upgrade, you'd need to re-enable them if a higher compatible version exists
[15:02] <llaskin> lets say I called it "VPN connection"
[15:03] <bazhang> Mrokii, some PPA *might* work with a difference in version, though that would be risky and depend on the nature of the PPA
[15:03] <LTxda> hi all, anyone available to help me iron out an Apache2 and SSL issue?  I think I have it figured out but wanted confirmation.
[15:04] <fajar> hallo all
[15:04] <bazhang> LTxda, tried #httpd yet
[15:04] <Mrokii> bazhang > Mrokii, since PPA are disabled on version upgrade, you'd need to re-enable them if a higher compatible version exists
[15:05] <Mrokii> I know but the real problem is that I have to check each PPA manually if they're updated.
[15:05] <bazhang> Mrokii, thats correct, was there some question about that?
[15:05] <LTxda> bazhang, will do that now, thanks.
[15:06] <bazhang> Mrokii, thats what is necessary to the best of my knowledge, as the ubuntu system wont check it for you
[15:06] <Mrokii> bazhang: I'm not talking about re-enabling as such. As it stands at the moment, I have to visit each of the PPAs and check if they have updated the source to 12.04
[15:06] <Mrokii> okay.
[15:06] <GFW> hello where is chinese channel??/
[15:06] <Mrokii> That's what I wanted to know, thanks.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> !cn | GFW
[15:06] <bazhang> Mrokii, it would complain if the version was causing problems, thats about it
[15:06] <GFW> thanks
[15:07] <Mrokii> MonkeyDust: Contacting the maintainer wouldn't solve the problem, as I was wanting something to check all the PPAs I have added.
[15:07] <bazhang> Mrokii, I think he missed the context of your question
[15:08] <berker> hi
[15:08] <Mrokii> That's why I explained it. :)
[15:08] <bazhang> ok
[15:09] <lobi> slow usb transfer ubuntu 12.4
[15:09] <lobi> any hint???
[15:10] <OerHeks> !details | lobi
[15:11] <sweb> what is package name for file mime magick data ?
[15:12] <Lantizia>  find . -maxdepth 1 -iregex '[0-9]*\.jpg' does zip all
[15:15] <erkules> does having a apparmor profile, automatically load that profile( apparmor is activated)? Having a look into /etc/init/mysql.conf it looks like it is loaded by the init script
[15:16] <Lantizia> perfect: :D find -maxdepth 1 -regex './[0-9]*.jpg' -exec echo {} \;
[15:18] <sacarlson> erkules: yes as far as I know apparmor is active in ubuntu as default,  not sure what apps use it like bind9 and apache2 ??
[15:18] <jxk> Any idea why, when I boot Ubuntu from the live CD, my speakers work fine; but, when I install Ubuntu to my HDD, the speakers don't work?
[15:19] <bazhang> jxk, check alsamixer in terminal and see nothing is muted
[15:19] <sacarlson> jxk: sure it's not just muted?
[15:19] <jxk> sacarlson: Yah, I'm sure.
[15:20] <jxk> bazhang: I checked alsa from terminal. My sound is on max on all speakers and headphones.
[15:20] <bazhang> jxk, set PCM to around 80%
[15:21] <xreal> I hate this ... "Can't find the Boost unit test libraryIs it bad, if LD_LIBRARY_PATH starts with a : ?; install libboost-test-dev." ... but it's installed...
[15:21] <xreal> sorry, messed up post.
[15:21] <jxk> bazhang:  Just curious, why would that work?
[15:21] <xreal> Is it bad, if LD_LIBRARY_PATH starts with a : ?
[15:22] <sacarlson> jxk: I would assume that the live cd and installed end up with the same kernel version?   uname -a to verify
[15:23] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, after installing XFCE my sound stopped working. Is there a fix for this? Anybody care to help me troubleshoot?
[15:23] <axisys> how to request the hash of shadow so I can paste it in /etc/shadow before a user can login with his known password? openssl passwd only prints des3 hash
[15:23] <sipior> xreal: setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH is considered poor practise in general. you might have a go unsetting the variable and see if that improves the situation.
[15:23] <jxk> sacarlson: yep. it's the same kernel.
[15:24] <csaba_pap> Hi! Anyone know a solution for the slow startup on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:24] <DeltaHeavy> csaba_pap: WHat's your hardware like? CPU?
[15:27] <sacarlson> axisys: I guess it's sha512 http://www.infond.fr/2010/04/linux-ubuntus-password-management-with.html
[15:28] <OerHeks> csaba_pap, disable IPv6 if you have an IPv4 adress, solved me 9 sec boottime
[15:28] <sacarlson> csaba_pap: and slow is what?  10 minits?
[15:28] <DeltaHeavy> Why in gods name does Ubuntu come with IPv6 enabled by default?
[15:29] <axisys> sacarlson: so I need to tell openssl to generate sha512 hash of the  passwd, I guess
[15:29] <axisys> sacarlson: thanks
[15:29] <csaba_pap> [   12.339978] EXT4-fs (sda4): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)    [   33.496618] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[15:29] <DeltaHeavy> I doubt IPv6 will ever take off for intranets. Maybe for Ubuntu Server I could see that bu I don't understand why people would use it otherwise.
[15:29] <sacarlson> DeltaHeavy: because we were suposed to run out of ipv4 numbers like 2011
[15:29] <BluesKaj> jxk, pastebin the output from , sudo lshw -C sound
[15:29] <DeltaHeavy> sacarlson: But no internal networks are running out of IPv4 addresses. IPv4 will still be used via LAN over IPv6.
[15:30] <sacarlson> DeltaHeavy: so what heppens when the internal networks need to start access the ipv6 wan addresses?
[15:31] <sipior> DeltaHeavy: sacarlson: #ubuntu-offtopic.
[15:31] <DeltaHeavy> sacarlson: That's all taken care of by the routers
[15:32] <xxiao> hadoop+openstack, anyone tried that on ubuntu 12.04
[15:34] <csaba_pap> sacarlson: 20 sec
[15:35] <DeltaHeavy> csaba_pap: Without knowing your hardware, or at very least your CPU, for all we know everything is fine and dandy.
[15:35] <r0f5> sacarlson: You can disable ipv6 by adding the following line to /etc/sysctl.conf : net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
[15:36] <csaba_pap> DeltaHeavy: i3 M330 2.13GHz
[15:36] <Hellz_Bellz> hello, I'd like two things, succinct informtaion on how to prevent ANY window from stealing focus in ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin, and I would like one of the knowledgable members or staff of the ubuntu community to tell me why this latest version of ubuntu is beginning to remind me of windows...
[15:37] <Hellz_Bellz> is the menu bar REALLY the only part of the "Appearance" i should be allowed to control?
[15:37] <csaba_pap> DeltaHeavy: 3GB RAM
[15:37] <Hellz_Bellz> what happened to all the options to configure the OS from the menus that I had previously?
[15:37] <bazhang> Hellz_Bellz, looking like windows is pure opinion, and not on topic here
[15:38] <Hellz_Bellz> "LOOKING" is not what i meant
[15:38] <bazhang> Hellz_Bellz, try myunity
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> Hellz_Bellz  there's MyUnity to modify Unity, or you could use something different, like LXDE or XFCE
[15:38] <bazhang> Hellz_Bellz, its still not on topic here
[15:39] <Hellz_Bellz> intersting that the configuration gui for unity does not come installed with it
[15:39] <bazhang> Hellz_Bellz, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[15:39] <Hellz_Bellz> yet ubuntu comes with things not necessary for operation like OO
[15:39] <bazhang> Hellz_Bellz, libre office
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Hellz_Bellz  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[15:40] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, he's gone
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> ok
[15:40] <drag0nius> is there some tutorial how to set up ubuntu server to run without graphics?
[15:40] <bazhang> drag0nius, thats the default
[15:40] <drag0nius> i mean i turn off gpu
[15:40] <drag0nius> and access it only through lan
[15:41] <bazhang> drag0nius, you mean ssh?
[15:41] <drag0nius> yeah think so
[15:41] <Jagst3r15> so, when ubuntu 12.10 is released that means 12.04 just stays the same correct?
[15:42] <Jagst3r15> 12.04 will only get minor updates from what i understand
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> drag0nius  that's what I have, a remote headless PC, I connect to it over SSH and NFS
[15:42] <drag0nius> i'm kinda newb into servers
[15:42] <drag0nius> whats the tool to set up ssh?
[15:42] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, point releases. 12.04.1 etc
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> drag0nius  openssh-client and openssh-server
[15:43] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: nfs across internet?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  I must have missed that part, it's my local network
[15:43] <Jagst3r15> bazhang but for a personal user u should upgrade to 12.10 when its out?
[15:43] <Jagst3r15> because it seems like the LTS are more for businesses?
[15:43] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: ok, "remote" through me off ;)
[15:44] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, matter of choice. the LTS are five years support (12.04) for both desktop and server
[15:44] <Jagst3r15> ok thanks :)
[15:44] <drag0nius> ok so i guess i'd set up NFS too
[15:44] <drag0nius> prolly main reason to run home server :)
[15:45] <r0f5> drag0nius: I guess you could tunnel NFS through SSH if you were determined enough.
[15:46] <drag0nius> to be honest right now i've no idea what to do
[15:46] <zykotick9> r0f5: ssh can do file transfers, why tunnel nfs over it unnecessarily?
[15:46] <drag0nius> its first server im ever using and didnt use ubuntu itself for long enough ;d
[15:46] <BluesKaj> r0f5, drag0nius , NFS is sufficient all by itself for servers
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  it's two rooms away, with powerlan/powerline :-) </offtopic>
[15:46] <drag0nius> i want to run ts3 server etc on it too
[15:47] <r0f5> BluesKaj: You have a point.  Maybe I am complicating things too much.
[15:47] <Segnale007> I am trying to make an h.264 movie with kdenlive
[15:47] <BluesKaj> drag0nius, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:47] <Hellz_Bellz> myunity doesnt allow control of window focus , why did you tell me to use it?
[15:47] <Segnale007> the problem is that it renders no sound
[15:48] <Hellz_Bellz> how do i remove focus stealing behavior?
[15:48] <Segnale007> I tried using libmp3lame instead of acc as someone suggested on internet
[15:48] <Segnale007> but no difference .. any idea ???
[15:48] <Segnale007> sometimes I hell miss my make sigh :(
[15:49] <Segnale007> *mac
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> Hellz_Bellz  maybe this link helps (10.10) http://askubuntu.com/questions/8494/prevent-windows-from-stealing-focus
[15:50] <Hellz_Bellz> MonkeyDust, you can see in the other replies that that does not stop focus stealing
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> Hellz_Bellz  maybe you find something useful in it
[15:50] <Hellz_Bellz> i did...
[15:51] <Hellz_Bellz> BUT... are you certain that that is not something i have already tried?
[15:51] <sipior> Hellz_Bellz: how the hell would he know that?
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Hellz_Bellz  i wasnt sitting on your lap while you tried
[15:52] <Hellz_Bellz> oh yeah... also, that post IS FOR MAVERICK
[15:52] <graingert_ufo> I want to install a copy of apache 2.2.16
[15:52] <graingert_ufo> what's the easiest way of doing this?
[15:53] <carpediembaby> hi. i installed phpmyadmin on ubuntu and added a symbolic link to /var/www but i see a directory listing instead of phpmyadmin interface
[15:53] <graingert_ufo> carpediembaby: you don't need any symlinks
[15:53] <graingert_ufo> carpediembaby: the standard install should do
[15:53] <graingert_ufo> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[15:54] <carpediembaby> graingert_ufo: well, i think i do. it never works since the last 5 years i've been using it. didn't work this time also (got 404), so i added the symlink
[15:54] <graingert_ufo> carpediembaby: let it install using the autoconfig script
[15:54] <graingert_ufo> remove that symlink, purge phpmyadmin and apache
[15:54] <graingert_ufo> then install phpmyadmin
[15:55] <carpediembaby> graingert_ufo: what do you mean by the autoconfig script? the screens that follow after the install, which asks for mysql password? i already installed it that way
[15:55] <graingert_ufo> carpediembaby: and there comes a stage where if you just press enter fails
[15:55] <graingert_ufo> it's where it asks if you want to config apache or https
[15:55] <graingert_ufo> httpd*
[15:56] <carpediembaby> graingert_ufo: i chose apache2
[15:56] <graingert_ufo> yep it should "just work"
[15:56] <alecjw> hi, how can i enable speaker output in precise?
[15:56] <graingert_ufo> alecjw: that's a very wide question
[15:56] <carpediembaby> graingert_ufo: ok, purging and reinstalling if you insist.
[15:57] <graingert_ufo> describe your hardware
[15:57] <alecjw> graingert_ufo: thinkpad t400. only get sound through headphones
[15:57] <graingert_ufo> alecjw: does it work on other OSes?
[15:57] <genii-around> graingert_ufo: Have you tried like: sudo apt-get install apache2.2=2.2.16-1ubuntu3.5
[15:58] <alecjw> this happened on and off. i used to get around it by changing the sound profile from analog stereo duplex to something else and back again but now that doesnt work
[15:58] <graingert_ufo> E: Version ‘2.2.16-1ubuntu3.5’ for ‘apache2.2-common’ was not found
[15:58] <alecjw> graingert_ufo: i havent tried, but i dont think its a hardware problem
[15:58] <graingert_ufo> genii-around: ^
[15:58] <oCean> carpediembaby: after install and choosing apache, you should have a /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf, this file is symlinked to /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[15:59] <Jagst3r15> bazhang does chromium recieve updates through the update manager mate?
[15:59] <graingert_ufo> /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf is symlinked to  /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf afaik
[15:59] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, should do
[15:59] <graingert_ufo> Jagst3r15: yes mat
[15:59] <graingert_ufo> e
[16:00] <zykotick9> Jagst3r15: do you mean security updates, or version updates?
[16:00] <oCean> graingert_ufo: oh, that can be (I did that from memory..)
[16:00]  * zykotick9 doesn't think chromium has the same exception to versioning that firefox does... could be wrong?
[16:01] <genii-around> graingert_ufo: The versions in repository are here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/apache2/    the 2.2.16 versions look to be just 2.2.16-1ubuntu3 and 2.2.16-1ubuntu3.5
[16:01] <trism> it does, but we are way behind at the moment
[16:01] <aithox> hello.. i've got problem with installing software..
[16:02] <genii-around> graingert_ufo: Maybe use apache2 as packagename instead of apache2.2
[16:02] <zykotick9> aithox: what software? and more importantly - how are you trying to install it?
[16:02] <aithox> dpkg error:
[16:03] <aithox> dpkg: error: cannot read info directory: No such file or directory
[16:04] <drag0nius> so basically when i run ubuntu server without monitor connected it will automatically listen on ssh?
[16:04] <Jagst3r15> zykotick9 chrome for windows and mac gets auto update but chromium does not i see
[16:04] <Jagst3r15> therefore i wonder if it gets upodate thru update manager for both cosmetic updates and security/bug fix
[16:04] <zykotick9> Jagst3r15: "chromium" should only get updates from ubuntu
[16:04] <israel> drag0nius, that's right
[16:04] <Jagst3r15> so yes through update manager zykotick9?
[16:04] <israel> drag0nius, but you need to install it first ssh
[16:04] <aithox> zykotick9: here is my output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1059277/
[16:04] <drag0nius> yeah i installed it
[16:05] <zykotick9> Jagst3r15: what you need to understand - is it won't get version updates
[16:05] <Jagst3r15> zykotick9 oh ok. thnx for clarification :)
[16:05] <zykotick9> aithox: you apt database seem messed up.  try "sudo apt-get update" then try again
[16:05] <mystiiq> hey, is ther any way to safely resize Windows 7 partition in order to install Ubuntu onto the PC along with win7
[16:06] <qdb> is there ready way/script published in the internet, to automatically regenerate c:/grub.mbr  for windows/bcd loader, after new kernel is added as default in grub boot menu.
[16:06] <OerHeks> mystiiq, yes, use the diskmanagment tools in win7, this will tell you how much you can decrease safely
[16:06] <aithox> zykotick9: i've done it before
[16:07] <mystiiq> OerHeks: ok, will look into this
[16:07] <drag0nius> well
[16:07] <drag0nius> how do i properly turn off ubuntu server? xD
[16:07] <israel> drag0nius, sudo halt -p
[16:08] <israel> drag0nius, sudo init 0
[16:08] <israel> drag0nius, sudo shutdown -h
[16:08] <zykotick9> aithox: dpkg appears to be missing something.  it's what is erroring out - and that's bad, 'cause dpkg does all the physical installs onto the system.  sorry i don't really have any suggestions :(  the "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code" isn't very helful (to me).  good luck.
[16:09] <zykotick9> aithox: actually i guess the "dpkg: error: cannot read info directory: No such file or directory" is the real error - but still no help for me.  good luck
[16:09] <aithox> thx zykotick9
[16:10] <zykotick9> aithox: "i accidentally deleted /var/lib/dpkg" is that you - it is.
[16:10] <aithox> zykotick9: is there another way to reinstall apt-get ? or some things that needs to get it work?
[16:11] <joachibl> i'm trying to set up an encrypted partition with an lvm volume group on it that isn't automatically mounted on boot – how would I go about doing that?
[16:11] <Kitty_> Guys, I was wondering exactly how I hide the navigation bar on the side when I maximize an app. Any help?
[16:11] <joachibl> this will be a remotely administered system, so I can't enter a password on boot
[16:12] <zykotick9> aithox: not that i'm aware of.  i can't help further.
[16:12] <nibbier> aithox, you can copy the deleted folder over from somewhere else
[16:12] <DJones> Kitty_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/101415#101415
[16:12] <zykotick9> nibbier: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2009399 aithox already did ;)
[16:13] <DJones> Kitty_: About half way down that page, it shows where the Auto-hide the launcher settings can be changed
[16:13] <zykotick9> nibbier: or whatever "status" is?
[16:13] <spanther> Kitty_, nothing more easy than that :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975692
[16:13] <drag0nius> hmm
[16:13] <nibbier> aithox, run strace -eopen sudo apt-get install php5
[16:13] <drag0nius> when i disable integrated gpu in bios, how could i possibly turn it back on?
[16:14] <ikonia> drag0nius: re-enable it in the bios
[16:14] <drag0nius> yeah, but how do i know where am i without a screen ;d
[16:14] <spanther> I have some issues with sound inside 12.04 64bit. With VLC while playing videos (skype too) sound effects or sound output is scratchy as if you would play sound with 8bit SID commodore 64 chipset XD
[16:14] <ikonia> drag0nius: get a screen then
[16:15] <genii-around> aithox: If it just can't read whatever is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/       then just do sudo apt-get update ...
[16:15] <rymate1234> yo
[16:15] <Humble313> i tried to do a live demo of ubuntu on my pc. using the same cd i installed for my dad. it just ends up freezing when loading
[16:15] <zykotick9> drag0nius: don't disable your gpu in bios - even without a monitor connected - you want to be able to plug a monitor in for emergencies
[16:15] <rymate1234> how do I get fixed bitmap fonts in ubuntu?
[16:15] <Humble313> but it works when i put it in my dads dvd drive
[16:15] <drag0nius> k ty
[16:15] <spanther> Humble313, your dad has another pc does he? :)
[16:15] <ikonia> Humble313: sounds like a problem with that computer / incompatiability with ubuntu
[16:16] <Humble313> i installed ubuntu on his pc. only problem with wireless settings. so i tried to see if that problem would happen with my pc. it's all in one with built in wireless.
[16:16] <Humble313> the cd hangs at one point
[16:16] <zykotick9> Humble313: have you tried nomodeset?
[16:16] <Humble313> whats that?
[16:16] <zykotick9> !nomodeset
[16:17] <Humble313> basically mine get so the part where you see ubuntu
[16:17] <Humble313> then you have the bars under it that change colour
[16:17] <Humble313> at one point the colour stays the same and nothing happens
[16:18] <oCean> !afk> VGoff_afk
[16:18] <Kitty_> Okay, so it says to run MyUnity, but for some reason it won't launch for me. Any ideas?
[16:18] <rango> Nokia dismissed Qt department, but I am just at the beginning of qt study, I am wondering the future of qt, but I like qt,what shall I do?
[16:18] <ikonia> rango: ask the QT guys
[16:19] <ikonia> rango: not really an ubuntu issue
[16:19] <rango> but I want to develop ubuntu application with qt
[16:19] <ikonia> rango: yes, but ubuntu doesn't maintain QT, so can't answer the question of "what is the future of QT"
[16:19] <IdleOne> but it isn't an ubuntu issue. ask the Qt people
[16:19] <rango> lack of applications is where linux sucks
[16:20] <zykotick9> lol another /ignore
[16:21] <Humble313> can i do a live demo of ubuntu from a 250gb portal hard drive?
[16:21] <IdleOne> zykotick9: no need to advertise ignores, it just aggravates the person being ignored and making them continue to do whatever it is that caused the ignore
[16:21] <musculi> hello, how can i start videos without sound using vlc and ubuntu 12.04?
[16:21] <musculi> vlc settings dont work
[16:21] <yandex2318> rango: Qt is widely used by lots of companies. It's not going to disappear anytime soon.
[16:22] <drag0nius> is there way to hmm open multiple terminal windows through ssh?
[16:22] <DeltaHeavy> Ever since installing XFCE (xfce-desktop) my sound hasn't been working at all. I'm on Ubuntu 11.10, and was using GNOME2 fallback mode priorr to this. Anybody know of a fix or care to troubleshoot it?
[16:22] <zykotick9> IdleOne: i'm sorry.  i usually don't.  but some statements are just so annoying.  i won't repeat sorry.
[16:22] <yandex2318> drag0nius: GNU Screen
[16:22] <IdleOne> zykotick9: we have #ubuntu-offtopic where you can express frustration within the !guidelines of course :)
[16:22] <Wavelight> hello
[16:23] <spanther> this is how ubuntu 12.04 can look like with some theme tweaks and gnome classic mode :D  http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/2932/ghq4px4q_png.htm#
[16:23] <ikonia> spanther: we don't need to see that, you've already posted it in #ubuntu-offtopic with no relevence to any discussion
[16:23] <Wavelight> I have a securitty related question - is it easier to hack a router with a small flash "" plastic router "" or a special distribution like Ubuntu Server?
[16:24] <ikonia> Wavelight: makes no difference
[16:24] <sacarlson> drag0nius: yes
[16:25] <dwakar> musculi see vlc --help
[16:25] <Wavelight> so, it is possbile that a "" plastic router "" to be compromised without even know it, I mean even all the setting in the GUI are allright?
[16:25] <ikonia> Wavelight: this isn't an ubuntu question, nothing to do with ubuntu, try "##security"
[16:25] <DeltaHeavy> Wavelight: I doubt it hacked. Without any background information nobody can help you.
[16:27] <Wavelight> let-s make it clearer - I want to install a Ubuntu Server distribution, then make a live cd from it, already configured, IS THIS POSSBILE ?
[16:27] <ikonia> Wavelight: yes, although I can't see a value to it
[16:28] <yandex2318> Wavelight: it's possible for almost anything to be hacked, look at Stuxnet, that was incredible. It's unlikely your router has been hacked however
[16:28] <ariana> Wavelight, it seems U wanna your server on CD
[16:28] <ariana> :)
[16:28] <Wavelight> yes, it-s safer, no ?
[16:28] <genii-around> ikonia: Could be usefule for something like NAS
[16:28] <ariana> Wavelight, it is better idea to have it on USB stick
[16:28] <spanther> he just wants everything pre-configured perfectly to his needs on a CD he can use to reset if needed :-)
[16:28] <ikonia> genii-around: I wouldn't want to run something like that in ram,
[16:28] <nibbier> Wavelight, if the server on cd is for security: either it has a security flaw, so it will be rehacked after reboot in no time, or it does not have, then a harddisk would just be... nice to have :)
[16:28] <ariana> Wavelight, you can rewrite it
[16:28] <ariana> :)
[16:31] <ariana> Wavelight, but interesting idea
[16:31] <musculi> dwakar: isnt working either; ubuntu audio preferences seam to remind the last settings of vlc
[16:31] <Pecker> Anyone have any ideas as to why ubuntu 12.04 wont boot after installing nvidia drivers? (sits at blinking _ screen)
[16:32] <OerHeks> Pecker, try nomodeset
[16:32] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[16:32] <Wavelight> I-am thinking what would look like a dual media router - a part that has all the major command written on a cd or on tape, and the other part on a regular hdd
[16:32] <musculi> dwakar if i close i muted video the next will start without sound but if i turn it on the next video will start with this volume
[16:32] <ikonia> Wavelight: that is a bad design
[16:33] <aithox> i've run apt-get update, but still got the same errors.
[16:33] <aithox> dpkg: error: cannot read info directory: No such file or directory
[16:33] <genii-around> aithox: Does that directory exist?
[16:33] <rymate1234> bitmap fonts are so much better than ttf fonts for terminal
[16:34] <Arash> what does ln -s do ?
[16:34] <Arash> ?!
[16:34] <ikonia> Arash: creates a symbolic link
[16:34] <Arash> I know It creates a symlink
[16:34] <Arash> but why -s ?
[16:34] <ikonia> Arash: ln is a link, -s is symbolic
[16:34] <drag0nius> what is some good way to share files on ubuntu server with windows clients?
[16:34] <ariana> Wavelight, like mirrors??
[16:34] <IdleOne> !samba
[16:34] <ikonia> drag0nius: samba
[16:34] <zykotick9> ikonia: soft isn't it?
[16:34] <Wavelight> if, for example, I put acces to router only from ip ..., mac ..., at the time from .... to ... on the cd part, how in the world would some hacker change this ?
[16:34] <aithox> genii-around: where can i find that dir?
[16:34] <dwakar> musculi you wanted to start a video without a sound right? if not i did not understand your problem
[16:34] <ikonia> zykotick9: symbolic = soft yes or "not hard"
[16:34] <ikonia>        -s, --symbolic
[16:35] <drag0nius> does it support like real-time access to videos?
[16:35] <Arash> Thanks for answer guys
[16:35] <ikonia> drag0nius: it's a file share, it supports real time access to the file system
[16:35] <DarthExpeditor> Hey everyone!
[16:35] <DarthExpeditor> :)
[16:35] <genii-around> aithox:  /var/lib/dpkg/     should have a subdirectory there called info
[16:35] <DeltaHeavy> drag0nius: Do you want to stream these videos or just have people access it?
[16:35] <Arash> @DarthExpeditor hi
[16:35] <ariana> DarthExpeditor, heya
[16:35] <detrate> anyone using a panel alternative in 12.04?
[16:35] <h00k> Wavelight: you're probably better to talk with ##security, as this isn't necessarily Ubuntu related.
[16:36] <zykotick9> ikonia: tisk, tisk on me - should have read the man first ;)  my bad.
[16:36] <drag0nius> i mainly want to get access to videos from wifi
[16:36] <aithox> genii-around: there is no , can i create it manually?
[16:36] <DeltaHeavy> Wavelight: You will probably never have anybody attepmt to hack you, or succeed.
[16:36] <drag0nius> like when i share it windows - windows i can just open the file in media player
[16:36] <DarthExpeditor> When you guys get a sec, I have a version of ubuntu on a diagnostic CD and I would like to clone it to my flash drive so I can use that instead of the CD.
[16:36] <DeltaHeavy> drag0nius: Ask #web
[16:36] <ikonia> zykotick9: to be honest, it could have been either, it means exactly the same thing "not hard link"
[16:36] <genii-around> aithox: sudo mkdir  /var/lib/dpkg/info
[16:36] <zykotick9> ikonia: i was just thinking hard vs soft
[16:36] <Wavelight> yes, I want in the first step to do a mirror from one Ubuntu Server allready configured and running
[16:36] <genii-around> aithox: Then try again with: sudo apt-get update
[16:36] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: why ask #web for file system shares ?
[16:37] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: It seems he wants to stream video from his server.
[16:37] <ikonia> zykotick9: that's exactly what it is, "not a hard link" so -s = soft is correct also
[16:37] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: so why is that "web"
[16:37] <ariana> DarthExpeditor, I have ubuntu on my usbstick and I wanna clone on DVD :)
[16:37] <DarthExpeditor> LOL
[16:37] <ariana> :D