[01:28] <callmepk> good morning
[01:31] <jamesh> hi callmepk
[01:32] <callmepk> hey jamesh
[04:52] <jibel> Good morning
[04:56] <Maik> good morning jibel
[04:56] <jibel> Hi Maik
[06:02] <didrocks> good morning
[06:04] <Maik> good morning didrocks
[06:09] <didrocks> hey Maik
[06:15] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:15] <Maik> heya oSoMoN
[06:18] <oSoMoN> hey Maik
[07:03] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[07:44] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:46] <didrocks> salut seb128
[07:47] <seb128> lut didrocks, comment ça va aujourd'hui ?
[07:54] <didrocks> seb128: ça va mieux, merci ! et toi ?
[07:55] <seb128> ça va mieux aussi, je pense que je devrais être retapé d'ici le weekend :-)
[07:55] <didrocks> héhé, de quoi en profiter :)
[07:55] <seb128> j'espère !
[08:01] <didrocks> do you know if we can extract the xml from a gresource file to repack it?
[08:01] <didrocks> or do we have to recreate it from scratch?
[08:03] <Laney> morning!
[08:03] <seb128> didrocks, did you try using the gresource command line utility?
[08:04] <seb128> gresource list <resource>
[08:04] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, extract will allow extracting each file independently
[08:04] <didrocks> but we need to repack it afterwards
[08:04] <didrocks> and for this, you need the xml file for glib-compile-resource
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:04] <seb128> ah
[08:04] <didrocks> it seems you have to recreate the xml file by hand
[08:04] <seb128> :-/
[08:05] <didrocks> (unsure even if it’s part of the gressource file)
[08:05] <seb128> hey Laney, how is it going today?
[08:05] <seb128> didrocks, I've no idea
[08:05] <didrocks> no worry, recreating the xml is easy, just need to write the script
[08:05] <didrocks> this was just in case…
[08:06] <Laney> moin didrocks seb128
[08:06] <Laney> going well!
[08:06] <Laney> you?
[08:06] <Laney> maybe that encrypted text reveals the answer
[08:06] <seb128> the night could have been better so a bit tired but the cold is getting better
[08:07] <seb128> so not complaining
[08:07] <seb128> I might be fit to enjoy the rainy weekend :p
[08:07] <Laney> how long have you had this cold for now?
[08:07] <Laney> feels like you have been complaining for like 2 weeks
[08:07] <seb128> one week today
[08:07] <didrocks> but it felt like 2 weeks apparently :p
[08:08] <seb128> it feels like a month to me :p
[08:08] <didrocks> heh
[08:08] <seb128> on other news they are starting closing bars and restaurants again :-(
[08:08]  * seb128 should stop complaining!
[08:09] <didrocks> oh, they are doing that there as well?
[08:10] <seb128> I was speaking about France, here they only decided to close the bars at midnight
[08:10] <seb128> I fail to see how that can have a big impact...
[08:10] <seb128> for sure it's not that one last round after midnight which is creating the problems
[08:11] <Laney> 10pm here
[08:11] <seb128> if people get drunk together from 9pm to midnight or to 1pm I don't understand how cutting the hour is removing the risk
[08:12] <seb128> or they believe the virus to be a Gremlins? :p
[08:12] <seb128> don't feed it after midnight!
[08:13] <didrocks> this is the line between keep the economy working and take measures to tell we are taking some I guess
[08:14] <Laney> people were pointing out here that shops selling alcohol don't have to close at 10pm
[08:14] <Laney> so leave the pub, go buy some more beer, go home with your friends
[08:15] <seb128> at least they can blame it on the people now right?
[08:15] <seb128> way to not solve the issue but just try to avoid the blame...
[08:18] <didrocks> I would bet this is it, avoid getting sued for inaction or so
[08:23] <seb128> RAOF, re that tracker SRU, I agree that renaming blacklist to blocklist in a source file wasn't really something important to commit to a stable serie, at the same time it's probably not worth the effort to revert and redo an upload, wdyt?
[08:23] <seb128> also I'm not wanting to start an argument about how important the change is or not with upstream
[08:24] <seb128> it's quite a political topic some people seem to care strongly about...
[08:28] <RAOF> [seb128](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_seb128:matrix.org): I'm ok with that change; it's pretty low risk. I would like to know some justification for the new feature in that point release, though.
[08:30] <seb128> RAOF, you mean the export command? I commented on the SRU bug and updated the description yesterday
[08:34] <RAOF> Ah, I haven't rechecked the bug that, sorry.
[08:35] <seb128> no worry, let me know if that sounds enough of a reason when you do :-)
[09:26] <Laney> If anyone's got a spare cycle or two
[09:26] <Laney> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html <- these packages need updating to drop the build-dep on gstreamer1.0-doc
[09:27] <Laney> and same for -base
[09:27] <Laney> and the binary dep too... *cough*
[09:27]  * Laney is concise in instructions
[09:40] <seb128> Laney, ack, I added that to my backlog list after seeing smcv and slomo discuss it
[09:42] <seb128> I though britney would be smart enough to block updates to transitioning in those cases, seems it's not
[09:44] <Laney> that would be good
[09:52] <Laney> looks like Simon did already do some of them
[09:52] <Laney> in git at least, not sure if uploaded
[09:58] <seb128> right
[14:13] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:39] <seb128> hey Heather, how are you?
[14:41] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth
[14:41] <hellsworth> hi guys! i'm well and hope yall are too :)
[14:45] <Laney> hey hellsworth
[14:45] <hellsworth> hi there Laney
[14:48] <Laney> jibel: don't suppose you have an nvidia system spare do you?
[14:48] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1871268 keeps getting a steady stream of comments and I'm wondering if you could confirm it
[14:49] <Laney> do an install with the proprietary option selected
[14:50] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center signed tags c5f9126 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.38.0-1ubuntu2 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.38.0-1ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/ip4qc
[14:50] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 28a412c Sebastien Bacher debian/ changelog patches/series patches/0033-sound-update-the-profile-list-after-getting-the-sign.patch * https://deb.li/jGlx
[14:50] <KGB-1>   - signal to update profile combo list after the PA changes the
[14:50] <KGB-1>     active profile, this patch fixes the empty profile combo list issue
[14:50] <KGB-1>     after selecting the hdmi/dp audio in the g-c-c. (LP: #1896919)
[14:50] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 2d6f339 Sebastien Bacher debian/changelog * upload to ubuntu * https://deb.li/3Z4AE
[14:55] <jibel> Laney, I've never been able to reproduce it but I can try again
[14:55] <Laney> if it's to do with the shitty list in debian-cd
[14:55] <Laney> then it could get broken when new drivers are released
[14:56] <Laney> thanks
[15:09] <Laney> not sure if it matters if you're online or not
[15:09] <Laney> could do, something to do with being able to find new versions?
[15:22] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center signed tags 7970f87 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.36.4-0ubuntu2 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.36.4-0ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/3nm5i
[15:23] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/focal fa5adce Sebastien Bacher * pushed 7 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/cG2v
[15:23] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/focal b2acb8c Sebastien Bacher debian/patches/gitlab_ucm_mixer_control_select.patch * Revert "remove backup file that shouldn't have been commited" * https://deb.li/394Gn
[15:23] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/focal de93674 Sebastien Bacher debian/patches/gitlab_ucm_mixer_control_select.patch~ * remove really the backport copy and not the original * https://deb.li/3wNCs
[15:23] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/focal 1c53748 Sebastien Bacher debian/ changelog patches/series patches/0033-sound-update-the-profile-list-after-getting-the-sign.patch * https://deb.li/illXU
[15:23] <KGB-1>   - signal to update profile combo list after the PA changes the
[15:23] <KGB-1>     active profile, this patch fixes the empty profile combo list issue
[15:23] <KGB-1>     after selecting the hdmi/dp audio in the g-c-c. (LP: #1896919)
[15:23] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/focal 2a3ac1f Sebastien Bacher debian/ changelog patches/series patches/git_row_collide.patch * https://deb.li/HpG
[15:23] <KGB-1> * debian/patches/git_row_collide.patch:
[15:23] <KGB-1>   - backport a fix for items of the connection details colliding
[15:23] <KGB-1>     (lp: #1873184)
[15:24] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/focal 40d8092 Sebastien Bacher debian/ changelog patches/series patches/git_useraccount_segfault.patch * https://deb.li/3x9bM
[15:24] <KGB-1> * debian/patches/git_useraccount_segfault.patch:
[15:24] <KGB-1>   - don't segfault trying to get the user initials when accountsservice
[15:24] <KGB-1>     is not responding (lp: #1873378)
[15:24] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center tags 7970f87 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.36.4-0ubuntu2 * tag deleted
[15:24] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center signed tags bd03e6a Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.36.4-0ubuntu2 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.36.4-0ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/3nm5i
[15:24] <KGB-1> gnome-control-center ubuntu/focal 6c12196 Sebastien Bacher debian/changelog * upload to focal * https://deb.li/bfHy
[15:33] <seb128> Trevinho, do you have your cheese update on disk to push maybe?
[15:33] <seb128> the vcs is outdated it seems
[15:51] <oerheks>  /clear
[18:30] <kenvandine> the USN refreshes are going to take a while, the amd64 builders seem really backed up :/


[08:32] <tbarat>  /query karni
[08:50] <tbarat> do you know anybody about karni?
[09:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Chocolate Covered Raisins Day! :-D


[00:20] <computer_> hey
[00:20] <computer_> whats up?
[00:20] <lintsniffer> Does anyone talk here?
[00:20] <netdaemon> no
[00:20] <netdaemon> :D
[00:20] <lintsniffer> Fun
[00:21] <lintsniffer> anyone know why I wouldn't be able to connect to any other network but this one?
[00:21] <lintsniffer> I'm probably entering the information incorrectly for the servers
[01:15] <Roey> hi
[01:15] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/FVMeEDYj  <--- which packages do I need to enable this?  Which Medibuntu packages, even?
[02:05] <cvd> its there away to setup the mouse-pad for a laptop in kubuntu; its so sencible, clicking everywhere
[02:32] <bjb1959> any idea why x won't start with nvidia drivers?
[02:44] <Logomachist> Hi. I just added kde to Ubuntu 9.10, but when I try to log in with the KDE desktop (after I enter my username and password) the screen more or less freezes- the glowing white bar stops moving(but I can still move the mouse).
[02:45] <dommytee> hi
[02:45] <phoenix__> hello everyone
[02:45] <Logomachist> jhi
[02:46] <Logomachist> -j
[02:47] <george__> can anyone tell me why I don't have sound when watching videos in youtube?
[02:48] <phoenix__> george__: my friend too suffers from the same problem
[02:48] <Logomachist> I don't have sound either, but I attribute that to my running one of the open source flash plugins.
[02:49] <Logomachist> If I really cared about Youtube I'd probably switch to the Adobe one... which I probably will do eventually.
[02:49] <george__> I've installes flash plugin but still nothing. I am using a 64 bit kubuntu 9.10
[02:49] <george__> installed
[02:49] <phoenix__> george__: check this link->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279497
[02:51] <phoenix__> george__: i think this should work for you ->http://www.simonandjun.com/wordpress/2009/05/23/youtube-on-ubuntu-firefox-no-sound/
[02:56] <george__> I can't find that package for the sound
[02:56] <george__> it says impossible to find the package
[03:05] <CPrgmSwR2> Where is the best place to report a sound problem
[03:23] <DoubleD84> Hey all.. So I apparently felt the urge to overwrite my entire data partition tonight using mkfs.ext4 over a NTFS partition. Is there anything I can at this point to reverse it or retrieve the data?
[04:14] <mooglinux> Im haveing a problem setting the dns server. i set it to the google dns in the network settings, but it never uses those. How do i make it accept the changes?
[04:20] <phoenix__> hello everyone
[04:20] <phoenix__> i have a problem with the nepomuk . can anyone help me
[04:22] <phoenix__> i have been come here everyday for the past one week and no one is helping me out. everyone is silent, the kde channel never respond
[04:23] <phoenix__> if i am not going to get help today, iam not coming back here again
[04:26] <allengaller> 123
[04:31] <pteague> ok, this is really weird... i'm having issues with my color settings when i'm playing a dvd... i get a blueish color skin
[05:09] <Flater> good morning all :)
[05:09] <Flater> how are we all doing today? ;)
[05:47] <a32> hiyah
[05:47] <trennor> I need some help please.
[05:52] <a32> choose for me: C or C++
[05:52] <trennor> how do I turn off xterm or get into runlevel 3 without an xterminal starting up?!
[05:53] <trennor> please!!!!
[05:54] <trennor> how do I turn off xterm or get into runlevel 3 without an xterminal starting up?!
[05:56] <ericG> can you use ctrl alt f1 to switch to a different virtual  terminal trennor?
[05:57] <trennor> yes
[05:58] <trennor> I'm trying to install an Nvidia driver ... there cannot be an Xterm running on the system during the install.
[05:58] <trennor> however, no matter how I try it, I'm either in too low a runlevel or the gui starts up.
[05:59] <trennor> I'm VERY frustrated right now.
[05:59] <trennor> all I need is gui-free runlevel 3 for five minutes. how do I get that?!
[05:59] <ericG> can you use "telinit 3" in the other terminal to switch to run level 3?
[05:59] <trennor> telinit? okay, I was trying to use "init 3"
[06:00] <ericG> probably would need to do sudo telinit 3...
[06:00] <trennor> awesome! I hope this works!
[06:00] <ericG> its been forever since i've had to switch runlevels
[06:00] <trennor> I'll be back if it doesn't work
[06:00] <ericG> good luck
[06:00] <trennor> thank-you Eric
[06:01] <trennor> didn't do bugger all
[06:01] <trennor> all I got back was my prompt again
[06:01] <ericG> sorry trennor

[06:01] <ericG> does the automatic nvidia installer not work for you?
[06:02] <trennor> there IS one? where? all I got was the one off the nvidia site
[06:02] <ericG> there is a restricted driver manager
[06:02] <trennor> that won't run no matter what I do
[06:03] <ericG> i'm not on my kubuntu machine so i can't look it up..it should appear if you start typing "restricted" into the kicker menu
[06:03] <trennor> kicker menu .....
[06:03] <ericG> the k button
[06:03] <trennor> going to a web search
[06:03] <ericG> the Kickoff Application Launcher
[06:04] <trennor> it wants to do a web search
[06:04] <ericG> hmm
[06:04] <ericG> are you on kubuntu 9.10?
[06:04] <trennor> no, 9.04
[06:05] <ericG> ah, well it should still have the restricted hardware manager

[06:06] <ericG> in the kickoff menu type in hardware
[06:06] <ericG> its under Hardware Drivers
[06:06] <trennor> I have hardware driver up
[06:06] <trennor> when I hit "activate" nothing happens
[06:06] <ericG> oh i see
[06:06] <trennor> wait .... something is  now
[06:06] <ericG> does it list some drivers ?
[06:07] <trennor> yes.... omg it's actually doing it
[06:07] <ericG> my desktop machine lists 3  different nvidia drivers; clicking on one and selecting "activate" installs it
[06:08] <trennor> downloading and running ver 180 I think
[06:08] <trennor> okay..... it wants a restart .... thanks Eric... I think we got it.
[06:08] <trennor> it wouldn't do it before though!! don't ask me why
[06:08] <ericG> no problem, hope everything works
[06:09] <trennor> so do I .... thanks again
[06:21] <bigbrovar> ever since upgrading to kde 4.4.1 from karmic. I cant seem to get my mic to work on skype
[06:22] <bigbrovar> never had a problem with it before.. from jaunty to karmic. seems some settings change in kde 4.4 most have had things reset for me
[07:28] <kaniiNIX> anyone around?
[07:46] <jussi01> kaniiNIX: some people, just ask! :)
[07:46] <kaniiNIX> ok :)
[07:47] <kaniiNIX> i accidentally the whole touchpad ;)
[07:47] <kaniiNIX> tbh, i used "sudo modprobe psmouse"
[07:47] <kaniiNIX> now i need the command to enable my touchpad
[07:47] <kaniiNIX> :D
[07:48] <jussi01> dxu_: please fix your connection
[08:25] <kaniiNIX> how to create a script which disables the normal vertical scrolling but keeps the two finger scrolling enabled?
[09:49] <beyondcr> is there a gui to share a wireless connection
[10:18] <Roffe> Hello Boys! I recently install Kubuntu 8.04 on a computer,, however when I get to the login screen the display is just a mess of different colours and stuff
[10:19] <Roffe> I actually edited the xorg.conf so That I could login with 800x600
[10:29] <shadeslayer> is there a alternative for Microsoft Visual Studion 2005 in kubuntu?
[11:14] <brakel> morgä
[11:42] <prem> Hello
[12:07] <alumno00> Hallo, Can I configure my ubuntu 9.04 for routing. This is what I have: http://pastebin.be/23822
[12:10] <alumno00> Nobody here?
[12:16] <shadeslayer> alumno00: routing as in sharing a net connection?
[12:17] <alumno00> Yes, you can see what I have in: http://pastebin.be/23822
[12:17] <alumno00> It's not working for me...
[12:18] <shadeslayer> !share | alumno00
[12:18] <shadeslayer> umm
[12:19] <alumno00> I can connect form Destop to Laptop, but not from Destop to main router (and Internet)
[12:20] <shadeslayer> alumno00: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[12:22] <alumno00> Ok, I'm going to try...
[12:27] <HandyGandy> Is there anyway to size my widgets?
[12:34] <shadeslayer> HandyGandy: theres a resize button on every handle
[12:37] <HandyGandy> shadeslayer: What's a handle?
[12:41] <shadeslayer> HandyGandy: just hover over a widget
[12:42] <HandyGandy> I get a dark window.
[12:43] <shadeslayer> HandyGandy: can you paste a screenshot?
[12:44] <HandyGandy> shadeslayer: Can you recommend a image pastebin? I don't paste screen shots often.
[12:45] <shadeslayer> HandyGandy: pastebin.ca
[12:54] <HandyGandy> shadeslayer: http://imagebin.ca/view/ex6g9Q.html
[12:56] <shadeslayer> HandyGandy: just a moment
[13:01] <shadeslayer> HandyGandy: is that a taskbar?
[13:02] <HandyGandy> A panel.
[13:03] <shadeslayer> HandyGandy: yeah thats what i meant... i dont think you can resize it then
[13:03] <shadeslayer> HandyGandy: youll have to resize the whole panel
[13:06] <mefisto__> I'm wondering about the keyboard shortcut that can be set in all plasma widget preferences. What is the shortcut supposed to trigger?
[13:17] <mefisto__> I'm wondering about the keyboard shortcut that can be set in all plasma widget preferences. What is the shortcut supposed to trigger?
[13:24] <shadeslayer_> sidharth: oh hi :)
[13:24] <sidharth> ok
[13:24] <eagles0513875> hey sidharth
[13:24] <eagles0513875> :)
[13:24] <sidharth> :)
[13:25] <shadeslayer_> sidharth: eagles0513875 is going to help you out ;)
[13:25] <eagles0513875> sidharth: im the one relaying the info to shadeslayer_ to relay to you
[13:25] <eagles0513875> shadeslayer_: going to try
[13:25] <eagles0513875> shadeslayer_: hes on karmic right
[13:25] <sidharth> ok
[13:25] <shadeslayer_> eagles0513875: karmic 64 bit,stock kernel
[13:25] <sidharth> thanks for the help
[13:25] <sidharth> :)
[13:25] <shadeslayer_> eagles0513875: hes installing vlc right now ;)
[13:25] <eagles0513875> no prob
[13:26] <eagles0513875> sidharth: how are you installing vlc using command line or kpackagekit
[13:26] <sidharth> commandline
[13:26] <eagles0513875> :)
[13:26] <eagles0513875> i only go to kpackagekit when i switch from using my local mirror to another set of servers
[13:27] <sidharth> #eagles0513875 i find the command line of linux interesting
[13:27] <eagles0513875> sidharth: :) glad to see your learning the command line
[13:27] <Machtin> i have a folder with german chars in it.. when i click it, it's not recognised.. can i somehow (via console?) change that folder's name?
[13:27] <sidharth> #eagles0513875 just hope this wifi problem gets fixed
[13:28] <eagles0513875> ya
[13:28] <shadeslayer> Machtin: um mv old_name new_name
[13:28] <eagles0513875> sidharth: you can alsotry out in bcm-users i found out
[13:28] <eagles0513875> channel specific to broadcom linux drivers
[13:28] <eagles0513875> sidharth: :) commandline is the best
[13:28] <sidharth> #shadeslayer ok explain
[13:28] <shadeslayer> sidharth: oh youll need : /join #bcm-users
[13:29] <Machtin> shadeslayer: that doesn't work
[13:29] <shadeslayer> Machtin: whats the error?
[13:29] <Machtin> no such file or dir..
[13:30] <shadeslayer> Machtin: hmm... just do : mv <press tab> : and copy the dir name you need to rename there
[13:31] <Machtin> won't work.. tried it
[13:31] <shadeslayer> Machtin: no idea then :P
[13:31] <Machtin> but i remember some kind of tool with which i could rename files that had that problem..
[13:31] <Machtin> shadeslayer: thanks :)
[13:38] <freaky[t]> hi all. how can I get thunderbird 3 for (k)ubuntu?
[13:40] <shadeslayer> freaky[t]: that probably will need a ppa
[13:40] <freaky[t]> is there any?
[13:40] <freaky[t]> if yes, how do I add it?
[13:43] <Machtin> harr. convmv did it.
[13:43] <shadeslayer> freaky[t]: idk
[13:44] <freaky[t]> hm :/
[13:45] <shadeslayer> freaky[t]: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[13:45] <shadeslayer> freaky[t]: they have 3.0.3
[13:46] <freaky[t]> ok thanks :D
[13:46] <shadeslayer> freaky[t]: just open a console and type : sudo add-apt-repository  ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[13:46] <freaky[t]> but this is daily
[13:46] <shadeslayer> freaky[t]: then update and install the new one ;_
[13:46] <freaky[t]> i only want the recent stable version not daily builds?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> freaky[t]: yeah thats what i could find
[13:48] <shadeslayer> freaky[t]: yeah,thats it... nothing else on lp
[13:48] <freaky[t]> hm ok thanks
[13:53] <gazra> CAn someone please tell me how to create an ISO image from a Music CD
[13:53] <gazra> from Kubuntu
[13:54] <gazra> I have tried cat /dev/cdrom0 > /tmp/XXXXX.iso
[13:54] <shadeslayer> gazra: and?
[13:54] <shadeslayer> gazra: any errors?
[13:55] <gazra> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/XXXXX.iso
[13:55] <gazra> And I get errors
[13:55] <gazra> [21414.011234] end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 72
[13:55] <gazra> [21414.011239] __ratelimit: 56 callbacks suppressed
[13:55] <gazra> [21414.011242] Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 18
[13:56] <gazra> Any idea how I can copy it}?
[13:56] <gazra> I tried to clone it with k3b and also didn't work
[13:57] <shadeslayer> gazra: try k9copy
[14:00] <gazra> k9copy doesn't work
[14:02] <mefisto__> gazra: k3b, create iso instead of burning a disc
[14:05] <freaky[t]> how do i install w32codecs? oO it says no installation candidate
[14:05] <mefisto__> !medibuntu | freaky[t]
[14:06] <freaky[t]> thank you :D
[14:07] <mefisto__> !info non-free-codecs
[14:07] <mefisto__> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:07] <mefisto__> freaky[t]: installing kubuntu-restricted-extras should also work
[14:08] <freaky[t]> thanks
[14:08] <freaky[t]> ive allready installed that package ;D
[14:09] <mefisto__> I'm wondering about the keyboard shortcut that can be set in all plasma widget preferences. What is the shortcut supposed to trigger?
[14:19] <AssociateX> I bought an LG Chocolate, it comes with an USB cord and should connect but it's not working for me... although it is charging from the USB. Is there a phone setting I need to change or a package I need to add to my desktop?
[14:20] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: you need to use : Mass storage mode on the ohone
[14:21] <shadeslayer> *phone
[14:22] <AssociateX> right on, I'm looking into it now. thanks a ton
[14:25] <Galvatron> HI
[14:26] <spencerreid> hi... You speak italian?
[14:27] <Galvatron> I don't
[14:28] <spencerreid> nobody speaks italian...
[14:28] <spencerreid> I have a big problem with my printer canon
[14:28] <AssociateX> shadeslayer: looks like that's with a memory card only.
[14:29] <Galvatron> I'm using Kubuntu 9.10 + KDE 4.3.5 + Compiz-Fusion with Radeon 9200SE (open drivers). My system freezes on almost each boot, after I type password to log-in. Sometimes before KDE loading bar, sometimes during showing up the desktop. All I can do is hard reset - Alt + SysRq + B, Alt + Backspace and Alt + F1/F2/F7 don't work.
[14:30] <Galvatron> After reset usually everything's fine
[14:32] <rork> !it | spencerreid
[14:33] <rork> although you might get an answer in english here if you can specify what problem you have exactly
[14:34] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: hmm
[14:34] <shadeslayer> Galvatron: try 4.4.1
[14:34] <shadeslayer> !phone | AssociateX
[14:34] <AssociateX> thanks
[14:35] <AssociateX> shadeslayer: look like I need to get a mini SD card. I can move everything to it
[14:35] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: nope not that factoid
[14:35] <AssociateX> I didn't get it anyway
[14:35] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: well i can just mount my blackberry fine here
[14:35] <AssociateX> lucky
[14:35] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: whats the output of dmesg | tail when you plug in the phone?
[14:36] <AssociateX> oh let me look
[14:36] <shadeslayer> !nokia | AssociateX : got it ;)
[14:37] <AssociateX> thanks, I'll check that out
[14:37] <AssociateX> do you want a paste bin of my dmesg output?
[14:37] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: yeah sure
[14:37] <AssociateX> still*
[14:38] <AssociateX> http://pastebin.ca/1825219
[14:39] <AssociateX> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/LG <--- weird, this is not working for me yet
[14:40] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: hmm well after you attach it,does anything happen in dolphin?
[14:40] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: also can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[14:40] <AssociateX> no
[14:40] <AssociateX> nothign
[14:40] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:40] <AssociateX> nothing
[14:41] <AssociateX> shadeslayer: nothing, just my hard drives
[14:42] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: does the phone have internal memory?
[14:42] <AssociateX> http://pastebin.ca/1825224
[14:42] <AssociateX> yes
[14:43] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: how much?
[14:43] <AssociateX> and an empty slot for a mini SD card
[14:43] <AssociateX> I think 100mb
[14:43] <Galvatron> I'll let you know if upgrading to 4.4.1 helped
[14:43] <AssociateX> I can check though
[14:43] <Galvatron> Cya
[14:44] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1078245
[14:44] <mefisto__> AssociateX: on my phone, I can't access the internal storage, but with a miniSD in it, it works fine
[14:44] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: also 100 MB might just be the amount of space the phone os uses
[14:45] <shadeslayer> so effectively leaving you with no space for kubuntu to detect
[14:47] <AssociateX> shadeslayer: no, there is about 46 mb available
[14:47] <AssociateX> I think mefisto__is right
[14:48] <AssociateX> s/available/free
[14:48] <shadeslayer> hmm
[14:48] <shadeslayer> never had any problems with my storm ;)
[14:49] <shadeslayer> plug n play is the way :P
[14:53] <AssociateX> thank you shadeslayer for all of your time and effort
[14:53] <shadeslayer> AssociateX: yaw
[14:54]  * shadeslayer wonders when voip+gtalk+kopete will occur
[14:57] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:18] <boesmans> Hi
[15:19] <boesmans> I was wondering how I am supposed to add songs to my library in Sonata :s Linux noob and i rly can't find this :p
[15:20] <shadeslayer> boesmans: why would you want a gnome app running on kubuntu?
[15:21] <boesmans> No idea shadeslayer. Isn't gnome something to be able to run windows apps on linux?
[15:22] <mefisto__> boesmans: you may be thinking of wine
[15:22] <mefisto__> !wine
[15:24] <boesmans> oh ye i am -_- well what is gnome then? ^^
[15:24] <mefisto__> !gnome
[15:25] <Galvatron> After upgrading KDE from 4.3.5 to 4.4.1 I get a plasma crash right after loading desktop and I'm left with black screen, cyrsor and Kadu window. All I can do is switching to terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and rebbot. Now I'm writing from LXDE.
[15:25] <mefisto__> boesmans: kubuntu uses KDE rather than gnome for desktop environment
[15:26] <ezro> Can someone help me? I restarted my comp and now I can't log onto x server.
[15:26] <ezro> I tried restarting KDM from the terminal
[15:26] <ezro> But it won't work.
[15:26] <ezro> The screen flashes then goes back to terminal.
[15:27] <boesmans> Oh ok mefisto__ . Well what media player do you recommend then? I don't rly care as long as it's a good/quick one
[15:28] <mefisto__> boesmans: the default in kubuntu/KDE is amarok. it's really good, but maybe not that quick, depending on your hardware
[15:28] <ezro> Can someone help please? lol
[15:29] <ezro> I need to get onto my comp, but I'm starting at the terminal.
[15:29] <boesmans> No probs with my hardware mefisto__got 4gig ram/core 2duo but i didn't like amarok tbh
[15:30] <zeko> hi, guys where do i disable the startup programs, cause i have installed LMMS and it always pops up at startup.
[15:33] <mefisto__> ezro: try startx
[15:33] <ericG> zeko: system settings -> advanced tab -> Service Manager
[15:34] <ezro> Little too late for that.
[15:34] <ezro> Got my windows 7 cd booting as we speak.
[15:34] <boesmans> so mefisto__ any others media players? Or do you know how to add songs :)
[15:34] <ericG> if its not there zeko you could see if there is a symlink to it in ~/.kde4/Autostart
[15:35] <zeko> ericG: its not in system settings, will try the other one
[15:35] <mefisto__> boesmans: add songs in amarok?
[15:35] <boesmans> no mefisto__ , in sonata ;) or any other media player because i didn't like amarok, that's why i installed sonata
[15:37] <zeko> ericG: no files in ~/.kde/Autostart,   no kde4 folder in my home directory
[15:37] <mefisto__> boesmans: someone in #ubuntu channel may know about sonata, since it's a gnome app
[15:37] <mefisto__> boesmans: btw, what do you not like about amarok?
[15:38] <ericG> sorry zeko, i don't know where else to have you look =\
[15:38] <boesmans> mefisto__:  the layout.. might sound stupid but ye :)
[15:38] <zeko> ericG: ok, i am gonna search in the forums now :)
[15:41] <mefisto__> boesmans: fair enough. but you do know that the layout of the 3 main panels can be rearranged?
[15:41] <boesmans> not just that mefisto__ , dunno why when I was using it it kept crashing
[15:48] <slow-motion> hi
[15:52] <boesmans> mefisto__: I'm trying amarok once again but it asks me passw for the KDE wallet.. When i type my admin passw it's not the same. i can't remember i ever put someone in, so how can i retrieve it?
[15:54] <mefisto__> boesmans: I think if you ignore kde wallet (click the cancel button?) amarok should still work. I find kwallet annoying so I've disabled it completely
[15:55] <boesmans> well what is it for mefisto__ :p can't understand it's purpose tbh
[15:56] <mefisto__> boesmans: you could also create a new wallet and password in systemsettings, advanced tab
[15:57] <mefisto__> boesmans: it stores your passwords in encrypted form so you don't have to remember them all, just one password when kwallet starts. but I don't find it that useful
[15:58] <sometux> nice work kubuntu go forward!
[16:00] <sometux> if i installed compiz, will it run on startup?
[16:01] <ac_> hi i have problem , i user kubuntu 9.10 , and i install fluxbox , when i run it from the kdm session it could n`t run , i try to run it from console and i have this error ( xmodmap: unable to open display , Error: couldn`t connect to xserver
[16:02] <sometux> logout and choose the type of session fluxbox
[16:02] <ac_> i will try and did`t run
[16:02] <Ites> hi mefisto__, sry I had to leave.. I wasn't able to type ANYTHING at all. Not in konvers, not in kopete.. any idea how this would come? I had that last time i was on kubuntu also, and i could only type in facebook chat
[16:03] <sometux> Kubuntu rocks!
[16:03] <ac_> lol
[16:04] <sometux> hi mefisto , so your the boss here!
[16:05] <Buthapest> Hi guys! I'm "new" to KDE and i just switched from Gnome to KDE, Is there anyway to get KDE 3.5 in Ubuntu 9.10?...I cant stand the newer KDE
[16:05] <mefisto__> not me, sometux
[16:05] <Peace-> Buthapest: go back to gnome
[16:05] <Peace-> Buthapest: kde4 is much more betterthan kde3
[16:05] <Peace-> .
[16:05] <Buthapest> Peace-: ok
[16:05] <Peace-> old kde user here.
[16:06] <Buthapest> Peace-: Think I will go back to gnome
[16:06] <sometux> I agree with you Buthapest
[16:07] <Buthapest> when I got Kubuntu 8.04 I was so happy, but after that everything went downhill for KDE imo
[16:07] <sometux> is it planned that compiz be run on startup  or its left for the user to do it?
[16:08] <ericG> sometux: kde uses kwin and the compositing effects are disabled by default. you can turn them on in system settings -> desktop
[16:08] <ericG> sometux: or press shift + alt + f12.
[16:09] <sometux> but still you can install compiz , right?
[16:09] <Peace-> Buthapest: that is your opinion ...
[16:09] <Ites> so does anyone know why i was not able to type anything at all anymore please?
[16:09] <Buthapest> Peace-: yes it is but it's also your opinion that kde4 is better than kde3
[16:09] <Peace-> so...
[16:10] <Peace-> what's the point to saying your opinion on official channel (only support is allowed  for opinion #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:11] <Buthapest> nothing, just that I dont feel comfortable anymore
[16:11] <Peace-> Buthapest: it's only because you don't know  that is
[16:11] <Peace-> i think people like that should use gnome
[16:11] <Buthapest> lol?
[16:12] <Peace-> kde4 = improving stuff
[16:12] <Peace-> improving = changes
[16:12] <Peace-> changes = people like you don't like kde
[16:12] <dmatt> Buthapest: you can set kde4 to be very kde3 like...
[16:12] <Peace-> = people like that shoudl use gnome
[16:13] <Buthapest> dmatt: okey
[16:13] <dmatt> old style menu, icons and files on desktop...
[16:13] <mefisto__> Buthapest: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html
[16:13] <Buthapest> mefisto__: thank you
[16:14] <sometux> any one tried kde 4.4?
[16:14] <mefisto__> don't know how well it works, but there's a forum post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[16:14] <Peace-> sometux: i am on kde 4.4
[16:15] <dmatt> knotify is crashing for me all the time, I installed 4.4 over 4.3.5 and after some play with .kde folder and updates it went wrong :(
[16:15] <Peace-> well kde4.4 is on backport repository
[16:15] <sometux> is it faster?
[16:15] <ac_> hi i have problem , i user kubuntu 9.10 , and i install fluxbox , when i run it from the kdm session it could n`t run , i try to run it from console and i have this error ( xmodmap: unable to open display , Error: couldn`t connect to xserver
[16:16] <Peace-> and backport repository IS NOT SAFE
[16:16] <Peace-> for everyone
[16:16] <Peace-> expert only should use it
[16:16] <Ites> how can i install rutorrent?
[16:16] <sometux> is there a big difference?
[16:17] <Peace-> sometux: it's like kde 4.3.5
[16:17] <Ites> i only find things for rtorrents
[16:17] <Peace-> sometux: for speed on my pc
[16:17] <Peace-> sometux: but it's better in some aspects
[16:17] <sometux> like what?
[16:18] <sometux> most intresting?
[16:18] <Peace-> sometux: tabbing , animations
[16:18] <Peace-> sometux: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kde+4.4&search_type=&aq=f
[16:18] <Peace-> sometux: first 2 videos
[16:18] <sometux> OK nice!
[16:21] <sometux> anyone installed compiz?
[16:21] <Peace-> sometux: luckly kde doesn't need of compiz
[16:22] <sometux> I know
[16:22] <sometux> someone asked me about installing compiz in addition to kwin effects
[16:22] <sometux> he prefers compiz
[16:23] <sometux> he switched from gnome
[16:23] <sometux> but still want to use compiz
[16:23] <pider> I have problem with my printer configuration, it says that my printer are idle when its not
[16:23] <Peace-> pider: printer? name ?
[16:24] <Peace-> hp?
[16:24] <sometux> go to printer porperties and change to online
[16:24] <pider> yes hp deskjet 710c
[16:24] <Peace-> damnit
[16:25] <Peace-> pider: open konqueror and write localhost:631
[16:25] <Peace-> should appear cups interface
[16:25] <Peace-> you can manage your printer in that way
[16:32] <sometux> is there a DVD for Kubuntu?
[16:33] <alakoo> yes
[16:33] <sometux> CD vs DVD?
[16:33] <Peace-> dvd = more packages
[16:33] <alakoo> DVD if you have an extra one
[16:33] <shadeslayer> sometux: just extra translations
[16:34] <alakoo> but nothing you can't get after CD installation
[16:34] <sometux> so no extra apps
[16:34] <shadeslayer> Peace-: um i dont think so,DVD's have all the translations...
[16:34] <shadeslayer> sometux: just a few... for eg choqok
[16:34] <sometux> I think with text based installer
[16:34] <sometux> ????
[16:35] <shadeslayer> sometux: eh?
[16:36] <alakoo> I think he means 'no graphical interface'
[16:36] <alakoo> (s)he
[16:37] <alakoo> sometux: you might have some problems installing it if not default
[16:37] <alakoo> not an issue with kubuntu, though
[16:39] <pider> I open localhost:631 and I still got this:"printer  HPdeskjet  Loftstue  HP DeskJet 710C Foomatic/pnm2ppa (recommended)  Idle"
[16:41] <Peace-> pider: well but your problem is ... my printer is not idle, or i can't print with my pronter becaise is not idle
[16:44] <pider> I cannot print anything
[16:45] <Peace-> pider: ok so your problem is the driver
[16:45] <basajaun> have my music on an external usb storage drive but letter assigned to dive changes on every reboot how do i get the drive to have a fixed letter?
[16:45] <shadeslayer> basajaun: hmmm.... youll need to label the drive
[16:45] <pider> are there any other driver...
[16:45] <Peace-> pider:  sudo hp-setup
[16:46] <shadeslayer> basajaun: and to do that youll need to format that drive i think
[16:47] <Peace-> pider: read this i could not be usefull but... http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/hp-fucking-photosmart-7762/
[16:48] <pider>  sudo hp-setup gives me"No devices found on bus: net
[16:48] <pider> "
[16:48] <Peace-> wow
[16:48] <Peace-> lsusb?
[16:49] <Peace-> shows your printer?
[16:50] <basajaun> the drive is recognized shadeslayer , my problem is the letter assigned to it keeps changing
[16:50] <pider> it's not a usb printer, network printer on <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:50] <Peace-> oh...
[16:51] <Peace-> pider: i guess you have to set it better on cups .
[16:51] <Peace-> but i dunno how
[16:51] <pider> adress:ipp://printersrv.bastille.no-ip.org:631/printers/deskjet
[16:52] <Peace-> pider: have you tried to print test page?
[16:52] <pider> yes
[16:52] <pider> no result
[16:52] <Peace-> pider: this printer is connected with windows ?
[16:54] <basajaun> how can I assign a permanent drive letter to an external usb nfts storage drive?
[16:56] <lynxgeeknyc> hello people
[16:57] <lynxgeeknyc> anyone actually talking here?
[16:57] <lynxgeeknyc> :-p
[16:57] <Peace-> ,,
[16:57] <pider> no have not tried yet with windows
[16:57] <Peace-> i mean
[16:57] <Peace-> pider: if that printer is under windows , you need of samba
[16:57] <Peace-> pider: and then you need to configure samba..
[16:58] <lynxgeeknyc> Windows? Ewww lol joke
[16:58] <lynxgeeknyc> people actually still use Samba?
[16:58] <Peace-> pider: if it's a pure network printer  i dunno
[16:58] <pider> no it is gentoo on the server
[16:59] <Peace-> mmm
[16:59] <pider> I will try cups config, so I see you later, have to go
[16:59] <Peace-> bye
[17:00] <pider> bye and thanks
[17:00] <lynxgeeknyc> sorry to kinda bump in to convo, but i'm kinda a moderate user with linux and learning the server side of it now. anyone here familliar with Asterisk?
[17:01] <dmatt> basajaun: drives do not have letters in linux...
[17:04] <lynxgeeknyc> can someone help me out? i'm kinda stuck in setting up SSH
[17:05] <Peace-> lynxgeeknyc: i thin you could get more help on other channel like #ssh if  there is that channel
[17:05] <Peace-> i think
[17:05] <lynxgeeknyc> ohhh
[17:05] <lynxgeeknyc> i will try
[17:06] <lynxgeeknyc> haha like two people there an no one answering
[17:07] <raindog> lynxgeeknyc: What are you stuck on?
[17:07] <lynxgeeknyc> i installed SSH and I know that supposidly it's on but when I try to connect to it it wont
[17:07] <basajaun> dmatt I am aware of that hence my desire to find a solution since music programs will look for music on a drive which has changed name....
[17:08] <lynxgeeknyc> I even set my router for port 22 and port 1 redirection
[17:09] <raindog> Are you trying to connect to your ssh server from outside your local network?
[17:09] <lynxgeeknyc> outside
[17:09] <lynxgeeknyc> that is the key
[17:09] <lynxgeeknyc> :-p
[17:09] <raindog> yep
[17:09] <raindog> look in the config, you'll find it.
[17:09] <lynxgeeknyc> it's bad enough that my host blocked port 80 on me lol
[17:10] <lynxgeeknyc> 80 and 8080
[17:12] <dmatt> basajaun: what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:15] <dmatt> lynxgeeknyc: usually it is because you do not exact rights for files and folders, which ssh needs... try to google it
[17:18] <basajaun> dmatt I have my music collection on an external ntfs usb storage drive , which gets mounted on boot and assigned a name currently sdc... so if a music program scan s the drive and buids a library the path will point to scd but on reboot the drive will be assigned another label so the music application won find music unless you rescan every time in the case of a large collection its a pain so...
[17:18] <basajaun> ...what I want is the drive to get a permanent address dmatt
[17:19] <dmatt> basajaun: isn't it always sdc? I can imagine putting in on network and access it through samba
[17:22] <basajaun> dmatt it isn't http://paste.ubuntu.com/389727/
[17:23] <raindog> Wouldn't an entry in fstab take care of it?
[17:27] <dmatt> basajaun: i see 4 disks in that pastebin. your disk is sometimes sdc and sometimes sdd or what?
[17:28] <basajaun> dmatt  I have two internal drives and two external dives one of circa 80 gb one of 250 gb
[17:29] <Benkinooby> hi i am using wikidpad, a "private wiki" software. it is able to use latex, gnuplot and so on. also graphviz is among. usually i write the pages in some kind of pseudo code and render it later, to see the graphics. all the plugins are working fine (mimetex, gnuplot...) except for graphviz. it tells me permission denied. http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8785/wikidpad.png the point is that the important files of gnuplot & co are also
[17:29] <Benkinooby>  uns usr/bin. any advice?
[17:29] <Benkinooby> uns = using
[17:30] <basajaun> the order wont be the same on reboot dmatt
[17:30] <dmatt> use UUID
[17:30] <dmatt> i believe it should work
[17:32] <dmatt> or, label them, as i read right now, "Labeled devices that automount will be mounted in the /media directory using their label as the mount point, /media/<label>"
[17:34] <szymon> hello i've got problem after upgrade kde to 4.4.1 i don't have plasma, and this is log http://pastebin.com/fvRfSP6L
[17:35] <szymon> kdeinit4 PID: 1720 Singal 11 (segmentation fault)     // how to start plasma :?
[17:36] <basajaun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/389735/ dmatt well how do I labell them?
[17:37] <dmatt> szymon: if i remember it well, it might be alt-f2 plasma-desktop
[17:37] <dmatt> basajaun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[17:39] <szymon> dmatt: it's still the same error :(
[17:41] <dmatt> szymon: try to delete that disk from fstab file
[17:43] <basajaun> I think the label has nothing to do with the boot order od disks dmatt
[17:44] <dmatt> doesn't matter if it is sdc or sdd, it will still get mounted to same folder, which is /media/label  isn't that what you need?
[17:47] <dmatt> basajaun: i do not have means to test it, but try to read through https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-May/147312.html it should help
[17:48] <basajaun> dmatt ok I will try that thanks
[17:50] <dmatt> szymon: did you finished installing? try to boot in recovery console and chose the option, which runs dpkg upgrade (i do not remember exact word)
[17:57] <inteliwasp> i am on a fresh install of karmic, with all the updates and i just installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia's website but now x will not start, any sugestions to fix(yes i rebooted after the kernel updates)
[17:57] <Peace-> inteliwasp: remove the driver
[17:57] <Peace-> the rebbot
[17:57] <Peace-> choose recovery kernel
[17:57] <Peace-> choose xfix
[17:58] <inteliwasp> how do i remove the driver?
[17:58] <daskreech> rmmod
[17:58] <daskreech> or modprobe -r
[18:01] <inteliwasp> does kubuntu have it's own version of the nvidia drivers?
[18:02] <zeko> hi guys, how do i enable the shutdown option at the launcher
[18:03] <pucko-> zeko, if it's not enabled it probably has to do with kdm. you can tell it which users can shut off the computer
[18:03] <Benkinooby> i want to use graphviz (via wikidpad). if i try to it tells me [Dot Error: /bin/sh: /usr/bin: Permission denied]. if i call dot from commandline it works fine. any ideas?
[18:03] <juanc> Hola a todos ubunteros
[18:06] <pucko-> inteliwasp, easier to just remove the nvidia package. you can do it with apt-get or aptitude if you can get to the console. don't know what the package is called though
[18:08] <inteliwasp> pucko-: ok, i need the drivers somehow, i'll try the one in apt-get see if i have more luck
[18:09] <dmatt> inteliwasp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20 Need to fully remove -nvidia and reinstall -nv from scratch
[18:10] <dmatt> eeeew, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[18:11] <zeko> pucko-: systemsettings> advanced> login manager> shutdown,.....here at the 'allow shutdown' option, 'local shutdown' is enabled for everybody
[18:39] <rethus> how can i check my hdd themprature ?
[18:41] <bandicoot_> rethus: errr thermometer?
[18:43] <jesnor_> ijuma:
[18:44] <jesnor_> openjdk version "1.7.0-internal"
[18:44] <jesnor_> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0-internal-jesper_2010_03_06_13_29-b00)
[18:44] <jesnor_> OpenJDK Server VM (build 17.0-b10, mixed mode)
[18:44] <alberto> some vary can help my
[18:44] <alberto> ??
[19:00] <daskreech> alberto: Asking a questionwould help
[19:00] <HandyGandy> Is there a way to reload the application launcher after installing new applications?
[19:02] <daskreech> HandyGandy: reload? Which application launcher?
[19:02] <HandyGandy> kickoff
[19:03] <daskreech> !es
[19:03] <daskreech> HandyGandy: Ah probably but I can't think of an easy way right now
[19:04] <HandyGandy> Well there is an easy way--reboot. But it's not very convenient.
[19:04] <daskreech> HandyGandy: Logout and back in should work faster :)
[19:05] <daskreech> And you can have a script that reloads it in place
[19:05] <daskreech> I don't know if switching it to classic then back would do that as well
[19:14] <HandyGandy> Well changing style didn't help. But changing settings did.
[19:21] <r00t_> Hi,im trying to setup this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8925988#post8925988 to run via cron every 30 mins. How do i do that?
[19:33] <sithlord48> when ever something has to use my sound i get a snap (as if its turning on ) then the sound.. everytime
[19:33] <sithlord48> any ideas?
[19:34] <sithlord48> ok never mind its caused by my monitor (since i use it for audio pass thru)
[19:35] <sithlord48> ok wait its still there and even does it on the headphone jack.
[19:47] <rudi> hei.
[19:48] <r00t_> system sounds dot hat with my machine as well. no idea how to fix it. also i loose my aabillty to output sound every now and again.
[19:49] <r00t_> I tried sacrificing one of my goats in an unholy ceramony but it had no effect. I even used on of my virgin goats.
[20:13] <Ites> OC Palermo #pav.oc need crew
[20:15] <Ites> OC Palermo #pav.oc need crew
[21:19] <cvd> ?
[21:23] <slow-motion> n8
[21:29] <alcidi> bonsoir
[21:55] <ubuntu___> hey anyone around atm?
[21:56] <ubuntu___> hi all im new to Linux and am not sure what to use either Ubuntu or Kubuntu.... what do you guys suggest?
[21:57] <mefisto__> this is the kubuntu channel, so I guess most would say kubuntu
[21:58] <ubuntu___> oh ok ;) - What do you think performs better Ubuntu or Kubutntu? - Or have you only used Kubuntu?
[21:58] <mefisto__> ubuntu___: you could install both and decide which you prefer, or just switch from one to the other
[21:59] <ubuntu___> ok thank you very much :)
[21:59] <mefisto__> ubuntu___: they're about the same performance-wise.
[21:59] <ubuntu___> thanks :)
[22:00] <mefisto__> ubuntu___: the choice you're making is gnome desktop vs kde desktop. look for screenshots or youtube demos and see what looks more inviting
[22:06] <Peter_> Hi all
[22:08] <Peter_> I have really odd pixel corruption on the edges (left and bottom) of my plasmoids, any ideas on how to debug this?
[22:11] <Daskreech> Peter_: on all the plasmoids?
[22:11] <Peter_> Yes, in the task bar as well
[22:12] <Peter_> well some of the sometimes gets a pass, like the cartoon viewer sometimes looks as it should
[22:12] <Peter_> *them
[22:13] <mefisto__> compositing on?
[22:14] <Peter_> Same with or wothout
[22:15] <Peter_> but with compositing on I sometimes get hard locks, so Im guessing is a gfx driver thingy. Its a t60 laptop (love the lappy) with what I think is a x1300 card
[22:16] <Daskreech> Peter_: Check in #plasma and #kwin
[22:16] <Peter_> will do thanks, I think kwin is my target
[22:17] <mefisto__> Peter_: lshw -c display   will tell you what video hardware you have
[22:17] <Peter_> Thanks for that nugget mefisto
[22:17] <Peter_> is lshw anything like list hardware ? =)
[22:18] <mefisto__> yep
[22:18] <Peter_> gotta love this game were playing =)
[22:18] <Daskreech> Solid really needs a easy pretty page of all your computer
[22:19] <Tm_T> Daskreech: kinfocenter?
[22:19] <Peter_> The program 'kinfocenter' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[22:19] <Peter_> sudo apt-get install kinfocenter
[22:19] <Peter_> kinfocenter: command not found
[22:24] <Peter_> kinfocenter misses to state my gfx hw
[22:24] <mefisto__> kinfocenter gives me nothing at all!
[22:30] <Daskreech> Peter_: http://imagebin.ca/view/nlwI5BT.html
[22:31] <Peter_> Daskreech: My 9.10 microBlog would have a very oddlooking right edge
[22:32] <mefisto__> Daskreech: that's what I got, but after running kbuildsycoca4 and restarting kinfocenter, things were better
[22:32] <Peter_> But my infocenter actually had entries =)
[22:32] <Peter_> what does kbuildsycoca4 do?
[22:33] <Daskreech> It Builds sycoca :)
[22:33] <Daskreech> That's informative but not "easy"
[22:33] <Daskreech> lshw -html > Mycomp.html is better than that
[22:33] <Peter_> No manual entry for syscoca
[22:33] <Tm_T> Daskreech: I agree, most of the time
[22:34] <Daskreech> Tm_T: Most?
[22:34] <mefisto__> it (re)builds system configuration cache
[22:38] <Daskreech> Tm_T: When do you stop agreeing?
[22:39] <Peter_> Daskr: < 50% of the time
[22:39] <Daskreech> Peter_: lol
[22:40] <Daskreech> fine Why would be a greater attempt at a question
[22:40] <Tm_T> Daskreech: I mean "...is better than that" yes, most of the time
[22:41] <Daskreech> Tm_T: Right I got that :) I meant when is kinfocenter better?
[22:42] <Tm_T> Daskreech: depends on what you like, it doesn't show what your kde session gets, for example
[22:42] <Daskreech> Hmm Right but that has nothing to do with Solid
[22:43] <Tm_T> true
[22:43] <Peter_> This was one of those > 50% times
[22:44]  * Tm_T shuts up and goes to sleep (;
[22:44] <Daskreech> Solid should have a Technical mode and a hi I hate computers but need e-mail outputs
[22:45] <Peter_> I get my emails served by an exchange server, with pretty much adds up to I dont get my emails server
[22:45] <Peter_> *served
[22:46] <Peter_> Is that a know issue with kmail or is it a known issue with exchange?
[22:46] <Daskreech> Kmail
[22:46] <Daskreech> Look at   OPenChange
[22:47] <Peter_> Im not doing their odd mail protocol, Im doing old school 821/822
[22:48] <mefisto__> Peter_: btw my video hw is listed in OpenGL section of kinfocenter
[22:48] <Peter_> openchange isnt reliable for the 2007? exchange server it seems too, for me. and the caveats of dont do this, you might lose all your mail really doesnt work for me
[22:49] <Peter_> Yep I just noticed. but lshw -c display was kinda to the point
[22:57] <mefisto__> each plasma widget has a place to set a keyboard shortcut. what does that shortcut trigger?
[23:01] <Daskreech> mefisto__: Depends on the plasmoid. Might be nothign
[23:01] <rubasub> hello, any kubuntu whizz people here?
[23:02] <rubasub> does anyone know anything about moving files to partitions which tell you you have no permission to do so???
[23:02] <mefisto__> Daskreech: every plasmoid I've tried, it seems to do nothing. but every plasmoid has a place to set a shortcut. it's been bugging me for a while now
[23:03] <stackhouse> How do you change your hostname on Kubuntu?
[23:04] <Daskreech> mefisto__: Tehre are a few that use it but since I run without plasma most of the time I'm kinda at a loss as to which use it now
[23:04] <mefisto__> Daskreech: I take it all back :) I just set one for device notifier, and it pops up the widget just like clicking the icon
[23:05] <Daskreech> mefisto__: Ah right that was one of them :)
[23:06] <rubasub> hi does anyone know how to change the permissions on a new partition...I can't sort it :-(
[23:07] <mefisto__> stackhouse: edit /etc/hostname
[23:07] <stackhouse> No way to do it through the GUI?
[23:10] <Daskreech> rubasub: huh?
[23:10] <Daskreech> Partitions don't have permissions
[23:12] <rubasub> Hi Daskreech I was tying to move a file onto a new partition and failing...just managed it with mc
[23:12] <Daskreech> rubasub: oh you mean a newly mounted partition?
[23:13] <Daskreech> Mount it with a umaskoption
[23:14] <rubasub> Daskreech I'd mounted it using Mountmanager but couldn't copy things to it...is umaskoption a command?
[23:21] <mefisto__> rubasub: umask is a mount option. you can see the options in mountmanager by turning on "show default options"
[23:22] <rubasub> ok thanks mefisto it's all abit of a stretch lol
[23:22] <mefisto__> rubasub: what type of partition is it?
[23:23] <rubasub> sda
[23:23] <rubasub> ext3
[23:24] <rubasub> mefisto it's mounted but I had to su and open mc before I could move anything to it and it seemed a bit much
[23:25] <mefisto__> rubasub: in mountmanager, what do you have for "what users can do at this partition"? Read and write? or just read?
[23:26] <rubasub> mefisto: I'd changed it to read and write
[23:27] <rubasub> and clicked apply
[23:29] <Ites|sleep> nn all :w
[23:29] <mefisto__> rubasub: well assuming mountmanager does what it's supposed to, you'll probably have to unmount and mount it for new settings to take effect
[23:30] <rubasub> ok thanks
[23:31] <mefisto__> rubasub: the info is written to the file /etc/fstab if you want to check. the line with the partition should have rw somewhere and not ro
[23:32] <rubasub> Mefisto: yeah I noticed something like that in a pop up window during the mountmanager settings so I should check!
[23:34] <Daskreech> rubasub: it gets applied on mount so unmount and remount
[23:34] <mefisto__> rubasub: also, the files you copied as root will now be owned by root rather than your normal user, so you won't be able to edit them or delete them unless you become root, or change the file's ownership
[23:35] <mefisto__> rubasub: at least that's how I think it works
[23:35] <rubasub> Mefisto: your right...it gets complicated
[23:35] <Daskreech> mefisto__: correct
[23:35] <Daskreech> rubasub: mount it with user read write options to uncomplicate things :)
[23:36] <rubasub> Daskreech...I'll try
[23:52] <nightrid3r> just did a clean install of kubuntu netbook and can't get my usb 3G modem working


[03:27] <lwizardl> i know this is a dev channel but what if both the ubuntu/kubuntu channels aren't helping with issues?
[05:10] <Discerer> what's the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server?
[06:25] <Burgwork> Discerer: -server is ubuntu without any of the graphical stuff, currently
[06:27] <Discerer> ok
[06:27] <Discerer> guess I'll install desktop then get apache, mysql and php ontop myself


[17:54] <roddy> Is there a problem with dell motherboards and kernel 6.6? I have noble installed and crashed half a dozen times using kernel 6.6. Only kernel 6.5 works.
[17:56] <roddy> Anyone?
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> roddy: kernel 6.6 just came out recently on noble
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> roddy: do you have a bug ID on your issue yet?
[17:56] <roddy> Yes, unable to use it.
[17:57] <arraybolt3> also *what* Dell machine are you using? A Dell Alienware failure is probably going to be very different than a Dell Optiplex failure.
[17:57] <roddy> No bug issue filed.
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> can you elaborate at wich point exactly things go wrong roddy
[17:58] <roddy> It starts up then freezes halfway running kernel 6.6. Have to revert to 6.5. I think the issue is Intel TPP.
[17:59] <roddy> I'm using XPS 8940.
[18:00] <roddy> I also have problems booting the Optiplex 7070 with 6.6 kernel.
[18:01] <arraybolt3> I have an Optiplex 9020 here, I can give it a whirl.
[18:01] <arraybolt3> might be too old though
[18:02] <roddy> Where do you go to file bug reports about noble and kernel 6.6?
[18:02] <arraybolt3> run `ubuntu-bug linux` in a terminal and follow the prompts
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> package linux might not work anymore currently due that apport bug the devs are working on
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> bug #2018128
[18:03] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2018128 in apport (Ubuntu) "Apport does not collect all logs when the package is HWE kernel" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2018128
[18:03] <arraybolt3> oh fun
[18:03] <roddy> 9020 is way too old I had a couple.
[18:03] <arraybolt3> though the kernel in Noble isn't HWE I don't think.
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> arraybolt3: i know, but due the devs are working on it, seems to be not working on package linux currently
[18:04] <arraybolt3> bleh
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> try it, see if you can reproduce
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> i also filed that cloud init warning
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> bug #2044159
[18:05] -ubottu:#ubuntu-next- Bug 2044159 in apport (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu-bug triggers an error cloud-init run data not found on system. Unable to add cloud-specific data" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2044159
[18:06] <roddy> Ubuntu isn't the only one having problems with 6.6. Archlinux flavors also have issues. Why release a kernel that's full of bugs?
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> roddy: ubuntu 24.04 is in devel branch currently, bugs 'can' occur in this stage
[18:06] <arraybolt3> and not everyone tests on exactly your hardware
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> and kernel versions can also influence things on specific hardware indeed
[18:07] <arraybolt3> regressions are treated seriously in the Linux project and should be treated seriously by Ubuntu, but it's impossible to catch every single thing
[18:07] <arraybolt3> which is why the kernel version doesn't change very frequently once an Ubuntu release is released
[18:08] <roddy> I suspect the worst issue has to do with TPM2 and PTT and other brand's Security settings.
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> roddy: also, some brands can benefit OEM kernel versions, maybe thats an idea for your case
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> roddy: a good starting point would also be collecting your errors/logs/dmesg on booting kernel 6.6 and share with the volunteers here
[18:12] <roddy> I cannot successfully boot kernel 6.6. It freezes/crashes midway through the run.
[18:14] <roddy> I tried ubuntu-bug linux-image and it cannot find cloud-specific data ... hmmmm...
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> roddy: you can try to catch journal logs from a previous boot
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> journalctl -b -1
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> or journalctl --list-boots , to find your 6.6 boot
[18:18] <roddy> I have been using ubuntu since it was formed first. Been using development versions until this version with kernel 6.6 is crazy.
[18:19] <roddy> Yeah I have reinstalled ubuntu at least half a dozen times fighting kernel 6.6...
[18:21] <roddy> Warty Warthog 4.10 was the initial ubuntu version. Ubuntu user 12 years running now.
[19:06] <johnjohn101> hi arraybolt3
[19:06] <arraybolt3> johnjohn101: heya! long time no see :)
[19:19] <johnjohn101> we'll talk soon
[19:58] <ChmEarl> grep UBSAN /boot/config-6.6*   <-- still turned on in 6.6?
[19:58] <ChmEarl> I rebuilt the 6.5 kernel with UBSAN off


[04:45] <tbs> hello, startup disk creator only works for debian based iso it seems, which app do you suggest for others?
[04:53] <guiverc> tbs, we really only support Lubuntu here
[04:57] <tbs> guiverc: i understand, well, i have another question, how to set vivaldi as  main browser?
[04:59] <guiverc> tbs, i'm busy next ~30 mins
[05:00] <tbs> guiverc: okay, tyt ^^
[05:30] <guiverc> tbs, have you had a go with preferences->Default.Applications.for.LXSession (you were on 18.04 as I recall) x-www-browser is the default browser  (or have you tried that and aren't getting anything helpful)?
[05:43] <tbs> guiverc: i use 19.10
[05:45] <tbs> what i did is configuration center>session settings>default apps, i guess i culd add vivaldi, im not sure, but i replaced firefox at least, still firefox is default browser
[05:47] <guiverc> sorry, I'll point you to https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/default-browser-issue/450
[05:53] <tbs> i readed it now, it seems it s hard to do
[05:53] <tbs> well i have another qestion
[05:54] <tbs> guiverc: how can i install this? https://download.kde.org/unstable/isoimagewriter/0.8/
[05:55] <guiverc> it looks like a tarball, usually you expand and follow instructions enclosed within (INSTALL, README or a like named text file) though some tarballs have the instructions where you download it (not package inside)
[05:57] <guiverc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwarePackagingFormats and https://help.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/manual-install.html maybe helpful
[06:07] <tbs> guiverc: i understand now, thanks
[06:12] <guiverc> :)
[06:30] <Guest_46> Ok, this is driving me nuts. Does anyone know how to change the content of windows to a arker color in lubuntu? For example the file manager, it doesn't matter if I choose dark themes, the panels and content itself is still light... hop you know what I mean.
[06:31] <Guest_46> *darker
[06:34] <Guest_46> That is, I would like the light gray parts of the GUI to be dark, as the rest of theme. Currently it looks like this https://ibb.co/f222ccq
[06:45] <diogenes_> Guest_46, try adwaita-dark.
[06:47] <Guest_46> After sitting an hour playing around I got it working, all of a sudden I could choose gtk as qt style in lxqt apperance configurator...:)
[06:48] <Guest_46> Been installing some plugins, and one of them must have enabled it
 execuse me, How do I upgrade from lubuntu 18.04 to lubuntu 19.10?
[06:50] <diogenes_> !upgrade
 I just read a few messages at the start of the backlog. tbs: the ability to scroll through desktops by scrolling on the taskbar is available as a extension on gnome desktop. Not supported as of now in lxqt. Maybe you can file an issue with lxqt-panel on GitHub and request the upstream.
[08:36] <tbs>  @LoudSpeaker, after trying to learn about how to do it from this  chat and saw that it is a unique request, i opened new topic here https://discourse.lubuntu.me
[10:26] <tbs> Somehow, probably while installing some apps, some kde apps installed without my request. i uninstalled most but idk how to uninstall Kde System Settings. Can anyone help me?
[10:28] <tomreyn> do you know the package name or any file which belongs to it?
[10:29] <tbs> @@, sorry, it seems a whole package groub installed!
[10:30] <tbs> when i try to uninstall one it wants me to uninstall nearly 20 package...
[10:30] <tbs> i ll try and come back here
 Careful. Might end up uninstalling half of your own system. I did that last time I tried to remove some packages from a PPA that were no longer required.
[10:36] <tbs> seems it went fine, but im not experienced enough to check them via muon, i could only use discover to be sure not doing anything wrong
[10:36] <tbs> tomreyn: how can i know package name?
[10:37] <tomreyn> if you know a file which belongs to the package you can use   dpkg -S /path/to/file    to determine the package name
[10:37] <tomreyn> this only works for packages which are currently installed
[10:38] <tomreyn> apt-file can be used to search for packages and files whether or not they are installed
[10:39] <tomreyn> to search for packages based on key words, use    apt search 'KEYWORD1 [KEYWORD 2]'
[10:40] <tomreyn> "apt search" is short for "apt-cache search". see the man page of "apt-cache" for more information on how the search parameters work, which syntaxes are supported.
[10:40] <tbs> i said when i try to uninstall a kde package it wanted to uninstall about 20 more with it, it seems  Kde System Settings s uninstalled too
[10:41] <tbs> tomreyn: sorry to take your time :/
[10:42] <tomreyn> no problem. feel free to take note of the above, you might need it again soon
[10:45] <tbs> i tried apt search, it may be usefull in future really
[10:45] <tbs> i learned a new thing at least :)
[10:56] <tbs> i have another question, i cant make bigger the icons on quick launch with panel settings, and quick launch doesnt have settings. how to do?
 (Photo, 1280x124) https://i.imgur.com/8wPEbwS.jpg execuse me, is there someone know, what happen to my laptop ?
 all my directory become corrupted file
 (Photo, 799x581) https://i.imgur.com/wjjafKm.jpg all my files on /home/user become x-corupted file
[12:21] <tango> 大家好
[12:21] <tango> 朋友们好！
[12:21] <tango> 都在干山呢
[12:22] <tango> 哈哈哈
[16:05] <tbs> i have another question, i cant make bigger the icons on quick launch with panel settings, and quick launch doesnt have settings. how to do?
[20:14] <tbs> , i cant make bigger the icons on quick launch with panel settings, and quick launch doesnt have settings. how to do?
[21:30] <tbs>  i cant make bigger the icons on quick launch with panel settings, and quick launch doesnt have settings. how to do?