[00:13] <Que20> Bonsoir
[00:14] <Que20> Je cherche de l'aide : J'ai une tres mauvaise connexion depuis que je suis sous Xubuntu, je ne sais pas pourquoi. J'ai pourtant éssayé de réinstaller le driver de mon dongle wifi (rtl8187) mais rien y fait... Help! :'(
[00:14] <GridCube> !fr | Que20
[00:15] <Que20> Thank you
[00:30] <hansin> Recently installed Xubuntu 12.10 in a virtual machine so I could code in a Linux environment while also in Windows. This is probably the best Linux desktop experience I have had to date, and I have installed many distros. So kudos on that.\
[00:30] <Siilence> Felt exactly the same way the first time I installed it.
[00:30] <Siilence> :)
[00:31] <hansin> The fonts look really nice, and it is cool to finally be able to add TT fonts by dropping them in the appropriate folder and have then just work (not sure when that transition happened.
[00:31] <hansin> What I am excited for, and I know this is some time off, but seeing Xfce transitioned to GTK3 and then able to be run from Wayland.
[00:33] <hansin> But basically wanted to give a kudos out to the dev team. I always end up dumping Linux because the desktop experience just is not up to par from me, but I am writing more web type code, and nice to code in a decent Posix environment, in fact for me better than OSX in that most server are Linux based. So really happy with the Xubuntu 12.10 experience.
[00:37] <hansin> Btw, see that Xfce 4.12, which is a transition towards GTK3 (cool) is set to be released in early March. Any chance it will make it into Xubuntu 13.04 as default, or has that not been decided yet? Thanks Btw.
[00:53] <nicholosophy> hansin, as long as it doesn't transition to looking like gnome3, I'll be happy :p
[00:53] <nicholosophy> For someone who has used linux on and off for over a decade, I love xubuntu. I just switched full time to it and deleted Windows 8 last night.
[00:54] <nicholosophy> although I do have a couple of windows VMs (Win 8 and XP) for work stuff
[00:56] <hansin> nicholosophy: From what I have seen said about this in various places, the Xfce devs are committed to keeping a more "traditional" desktop paradigm that many people are used to and actually find productive for their workflow. Many of us who use computers to do certain tasks don't care about the distractions that the "social" desktop brings about, or will ever use a tablet or similar for most...
[00:56] <hansin> ...productivity. Let's face it, screen real estate matters, along with other issues.
[01:01] <hansin> There are maybe some interesting ideas that could available to the traditional desktop, things like Spotlight in OSX or the cross-platform open source Launchy, both app launchers triggered by Alt-Space (Alt-2 is not ideal, but I suppose I could re-map). I also like to install Guake for a drop-down terminal. Basically, a solid core desktop where maybe some cool supplemental programs that...
[01:01] <hansin> ...people could pick and choose (so if you wanted HUD type thing, you could add it.) Anyway, solid Xfce on Wayland might be a great core.
[01:01] <nicholosophy> hansin, amen!
[01:02] <hansin> As they say, KISS, but not so simple that you cannot customize to your liking.
[01:02] <hansin> Just simple in the sense of a well thought out solid core.
[01:04] <hansin> At least that is my take ;)
[01:50] <fmjunkie> Hi guys,, I was hoping someone could answer some questions for me about getting compiz to work in Xubuntu 12.04?
[01:51] <pleia2> we won't know until you ask :) but keep in mind that it's not an official supported configuration
[01:52] <fmjunkie> oh ok,, well i seem to be having trouble with the whole decorator part.. this is that terminal says after i run compiz --replace "Couldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators
[01:52] <fmjunkie> Found no decorator to start
[01:52] <fmjunkie> "
[01:54] <fmjunkie> anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[02:21] <nicholosophy> anyone know if there is a ppa for thunar dropbox plugin?
[02:42] <Cheri703> wadapdoc: best to ask in a public channel before pm'ing people. if you have questions you can ask here.
[02:43] <wadapdoc> oh okey
[02:50] <wadapdoc> Cheri703 I hope you can help me out cause I'm kinda lost. Anyway this is the problem... yesterday while I was updating some software on a Win7 the screen froze and I waited for a couple of minutes and decided to reboot the PC. After rebooting the PC I couldn't get past a screen that kept on showing up no matter what I did. The error that it was showing was 0xc000009 and that's effecting some I/O device or something.
[02:53] <xubuntu395> How do I create RAID-1 across two partitions before installing XUbuntu 12.10?
[02:53] <wadapdoc> Friend of mine told me to do a Xubuntu-to-desktop boot and using the try out setting see if my HDD is alive and if I can recover some files which I did now is the funny part. After I recovered everything I decided to erase everything and install the Xubuntu package but after getting several errors while installing and constant rebooting somehow it worked but I'm getting stuck again after the Ubuntu booting map.
[02:54] <wadapdoc> After I choose to boot ubuntu the screen frezes and after a while I get some error and few more kernel fails.
[02:55] <Unit193> wadapdoc: Pretty sure you have a dead/dieing harddrive.
[02:55] <wadapdoc> Can it be stuck on a bad sector that over loops somehow?
[02:56] <wadapdoc> I haven't used any error fixing commands like chkdsk
[02:57] <Unit193> What's the brand?
[02:57] <wadapdoc> it's an old SATA Hard
[02:58] <wadapdoc> the funny thing is I atm while I'm booted from the usb I can acsses the HDD via Gigolo
[02:58] <Unit193> If it is seagate, try http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/seatools/seatools-test-codes.html
[02:58] <wadapdoc> I can connect to it.
[02:58] <wadapdoc> I remember the thing failing on some vmlinuz file or command
[02:59] <wadapdoc> I don't know I'm new to Linux and learning but I like it.
[03:09] <wadapdoc> Unit193: Any other ideas?
[03:11] <Unit193> As I said, check the harddrive.  Using seatools for seagate, WD ones for wd, or maybe mhdd.
[03:13] <wadapdoc> Haha I'm not sure how.
[03:15] <wadapdoc> I can't use the for Windows file I guess the only option is the dos one.
[03:19] <wadapdoc> Unit193: what do I do once I dl the dos iso? I'm a complete noob.
[03:19] <wadapdoc> Oh crap I don't have a DVD rom to burn the thing to a CD.
[03:19] <GridCube> !unetbootin
[03:20] <wadapdoc> Is that for me?
[03:23] <GridCube> if you dont have dvd's you can use a pendrive yes, wadapdoc
[03:23] <wadapdoc> but I got the Xubuntu boot thingy on the USB
[03:26] <GridCube> oh
[03:26] <GridCube> what do you want to burn to a dvd then?
[03:27] <wadapdoc> Unit193 suggested that I try seagate tools to see what's wrong with my HDD.
[03:29] <wadapdoc> Also when I was installing Xubuntu I never configured the partitions.
[03:29] <wadapdoc> And I just learned that I need to configure them.
[03:32] <wadapdoc> It looks like I got one ext4 type partition without any mount command which is 248gig and 2 others swap that are each 1071mb
[03:32] <GridCube> if you just choose to use the whole disk the installer takes care of that
[03:34] <wadapdoc> but at the Used subpanel thingy it shows Unknown for the 248gig partition
[03:34] <wadapdoc> damn this is weird
[03:35] <GridCube> wadapdoc, open a terminal and type: sudo fdisk -l
[03:35] <GridCube> and paste the result to a pastebin
[03:36] <GridCube> !pastebin
[03:37] <GridCube> also you could paste the results of df
[03:38] <wadapdoc> http://pastebin.com/Z0qcZ9JZ
[03:40] <Juvenal> hello, long time linux/ubuntu/gnome user here. am installing xubuntu for the first time ever as we speak
[03:40] <Juvenal> anyone have any tips or extensions or 'need to have/know' things for xfce?
[03:41] <wadapdoc> Glad to have you here
[03:41] <Juvenal> glad to be here, gnome was making me sick
[03:41] <wadapdoc> Yeah those gnomes
[03:42] <wadapdoc> Anyway I'm new here and new to linux/gnome/ubuntu
[03:42] <Juvenal> i was using gnome 2 on ubuntu 11.10 before, and there were quite a few awful ui bugs introduced when ubuntu shifted to gnome 3
[03:43] <wadapdoc> GridCube: any info?
[03:44] <GridCube> wadapdoc, can you paste the results of df aswell please
[03:45] <Juvenal> wadapdoc, whats the issue you were having?
[03:45] <wadapdoc> sure just tell me how do I do that
[03:46] <wadapdoc> I'm having some issues with my HDD as it looks like
[03:47] <GridCube> wadapdoc, on a terminal, type df and press enter
[03:47] <wadapdoc> oh
[03:48] <wadapdoc> here it is GridCube http://pastebin.com/rpERi16k
[03:48] <GridCube> df -h to get human readable numbers :P
[03:48] <wadapdoc> one sec
[03:49] <GridCube> D:
[03:49] <GridCube> i... what?
[03:49] <GridCube> your partitions are all sort of weird
[03:49] <wadapdoc> http://pastebin.com/hNQyjRyg
[03:50] <wadapdoc> yeah I know!
[03:50] <wadapdoc> I just don't know what the hell happened
[03:50] <Juvenal> are you booted to a livecd?
[03:50] <wadapdoc> yes from a USB
[03:50] <hansin> Juvenal: maybe just dig around in the settings manager ( Start | Settings Manager ) a bit and explore. I am not an expert, but finds it pretty intuitive. I like to clean up to my liking like removing icons from menus, set background, move to a single Gnome/Windows style panel to the bottom (so delete launcher at bottom and move top panel to below), etc. I guess just explore it a bit, but I...
[03:50] <hansin> ...really like Xfce in the latest Xubuntu. They did a good job with this distro I think.
[03:50] <GridCube> oh... right... XD live session
[03:50] <GridCube> thats why the all sort of weirds
[03:50] <Juvenal> lol
[03:51] <Juvenal> GridCube, you did the same thing i did "wtf, that looks like a live session"
[03:51] <wadapdoc> I don't know what you guys saw but all I saw was bunch of numbers and went "wtf do all these numbers mean!?"
[03:51] <GridCube> i forgot about that part
[03:51] <wadapdoc> lol
[03:51] <GridCube> wadapdoc, its pretty simple if you take the time to read it
[03:52] <GridCube> not the fdisk -l part though, that might take more time
[03:52] <wadapdoc> :D
[03:52] <hansin> wadapdoc: I am not totally following, but do you know for sure you installed, or are you just running from the LiveCD and have not installed to the harddrive yet?
[03:52] <wadapdoc> so any ideas how we should fix this GridCube?
[03:52] <hansin> LiveUSB I mean ;)
[03:52] <GridCube> wadapdoc, you see the problem is here: Disk /dev/mapper/nvidia_ffbfhbci1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[03:53] <wadapdoc> I have installed but when I boot Xubuntu without the LiveUSB it fails
[03:53] <GridCube> thats what fdisk -l is saying, thats your / partition
[03:53] <Juvenal> hmm, well this isnt a great start. not booting after install
[03:53] <Juvenal> likely the ufi bootloader wasnt installed correctly..
[03:53] <wadapdoc> but when I connect to the drive whie Gigolo from the LiveUSB
[03:53] <wadapdoc> I can see the installation files
[03:53] <GridCube> yes
[03:54] <wadapdoc> I think the issue might be I haven't installed the thing properlly with the partitions
[03:54] <GridCube> your partition tables are broken, you can try using testdisk to recover it
[03:54] <wadapdoc> how? where?
[03:54] <GridCube> but i dont recommend you to use testdisk because its fairly complex
[03:54] <wadapdoc> oh
[03:54] <GridCube> !testdisk
[03:55] <GridCube> well
[03:55] <GridCube> !info testdisk
[03:55] <wadapdoc> how do I use that
[03:56] <GridCube> wadapdoc, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[03:56] <GridCube> but as i said, fairly complex
[03:56] <GridCube> i've done it a few times though
[03:56] <wadapdoc> oh so what do you suggest?
[03:57] <GridCube> you can try that, or reformat and use some tool like chkdsk to separate faulty sectors
[03:58] <GridCube> and try the installation again
[03:58] <wadapdoc> lets go with the option of reformat
[03:59] <wadapdoc> can you gudie me through pretty please
[03:59] <GridCube> sorry, gotta go, but do read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsck
[03:59] <wadapdoc> aww man ty anyway
[03:59] <wadapdoc> have a nice day
[04:00] <GridCube> :D night actually, sleepy sleep tiems
[04:00] <GridCube> !uefi | Juvenal if you are having problems with uefi please read this
[04:01] <GridCube> bye :)
[04:02] <hansin> wadapdoc: you might have issues with raid (looks like you ION board might have a RAID setting in the BIOS ???). At least, this is what made me thing so - see #8: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305811
[04:03] <hansin> And then there is fail because GRUB cannot access these partitions. Well, something like that. Though was an issue with an earlier Ubuntu release.
[04:03] <wadapdoc> what do you suggest?
[04:06] <hansin> wadapdoc: maybe read through the thread. I have not done much with RAID set ups, and I have never seen these alternate device entries for Nvidia. If you know how to access the BIOS, maybe see if there are RAID setting for the SATA controller, and just disable RAID. Of course you would then need to do a reinstall. But do take a look at the thread from the above link as there seemed some info.'
[04:06] <wadapdoc> Alright thank you very much.
[04:09] <hansin> wadapdoc: me personally, if I was only going to use one drive (do you know what RAID is by the way, just curious?), I would get into the BIOS and disable any RAID. But the whole thread seems to be a pretty good read and I actually learned something ;)
[04:10] <hansin> wadapdoc: just curious, but what is your computer or motherboard brand/model?
[04:13] <wadapdoc> I don't know what RAID is but I read earlier on some thread something about it and honestly I was trying to do something there but only ended up as I remember clearing the whole HDD.
[04:13] <wadapdoc> The motherboard model on this PC is very old one it's a MSI n1996 if I'm not mistaken
[04:15] <wadapdoc> but I'm pretty sure that I disabled the RAID thing and set it to IDE.
[04:17] <hansin> wadapdoc: Ok. Well, RAID (redundant array of independent/inexpensive disks) is for using multiple drives where you can do things like mirror the drives so if one crashes you do not lose data, or you can "stripe" data so things things are accessed twice as fast (data split between drives), etc. But you wouldn't need that with one drive.
[04:17] <wadapdoc> Yeah I was just looking through it's settings what it does.
[04:18] <hansin> Btw, I am only guessing it is a RAID thing from what I was seeing, but could be wrong. You must have had some sort of Nvidia chipset in there if it is giving you /dev/mapper/nvida... entries in your partition table. But I am not an expert.
[04:19] <wadapdoc> anyway I tried fsck /dev/sdb1 and it says the filesystem is mounted and that if I continue it can cause filesystem damage.
[04:19] <hansin> yeah, because /dev/sdb1 is you USB stick.
[04:20] <wadapdoc> Oh
[04:21] <hansin> I would probably dig through the BIOS a bit again and make sure things look good for you SATA controller and hard drive settings. In fact, I would set the SATA controller to SATA if you can (not IDE). Then I would boot again into the USB and do a clean install (tell it to use the whole drive.) It should repartition it all for you.
[04:21] <wadapdoc> I wrote fscsk /dev/mapper/nividia/ffbfhbci1 to try and enter the HDD but it says Permission denied and that I Don't have access to it hmm
[04:22] <wadapdoc> I have AHCI, RAID and IDE
[04:22] <dancat> I am using gmusicbrowser and it seems not to support m4a ... is there a work around anyone knows about?
[04:23] <dancat> asking here since this is the stock audio of xubuntu
[04:24] <hansin> FYI, you hard drive should be /dev/sda -- the whole drive, and each partition /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 etc.
[04:24] <hansin> Btw, I'd probaly go with AHCI: http://www.diffen.com/difference/AHCI_vs_IDE
[04:25] <wadapdoc> alright
[04:25] <wadapdoc> I'll be back just to try these things
[04:27] <Juvenal> ah, silly me
[04:27] <hansin> wadapdoc: one last thing...
[04:27] <Juvenal> didnt use the right efi boot partition
[04:28] <hansin> wadapdoc: Just for your info, you sda1 is a primary partition, and your sda2 in the second primary which contain the extended sda5 as SWAP. Basically, that part looks like it should be. Give it a go ( change to ACHI and do a clean reinstall ), and let us know how it goes!
[04:29] <hansin> wadapdoc: Or you could first try and just change the BIOS setting and see if current install boots (worth a try) and only reinstall if no boot.
[04:30] <Juvenal> dancat, it looks like gmusicbrowser claims support for m4a in 1.1.x
[04:30] <Juvenal> which is an RC
[04:31] <Juvenal> v1.1.2 added support
[04:33] <Juvenal> dancat, what release are you using? anything over 10.04 should have gmusicbrowser 1.1.x
[04:34] <dancat> Okay, I am learning the vocab. My m4a(s) are encoded with AAC and they do not show up in gmusicbrowser but show and play in other media programs
[04:34] <dancat> version:
[04:34] <dancat> 1.1.9
[04:35] <Juvenal> sounds like a bug in gmusicbrowser then
[04:35] <Juvenal> or an issue with your specific m4a's
[04:35] <Juvenal> since 1.1.2+ claims support for m4a
[04:36] <dancat> I've looked everywhere for an answer and the only thing I am seeing is http://forum.gmusicbrowser.org/index.php?topic=604.msg2859#msg2859
[04:36] <dancat> which didn't make that much sense to me but...
[04:39] <Juvenal> do your m4a files have id3v2 tags?
[04:40] <dancat> let me see... I believe they are tags with the aac version tagging tool but standby
[04:41] <Cheri703> is there a way to run the "normal" (gnome?) ubuntu clock applet on an xfce panel? I miss my world clock...
[04:42] <Cheri703> nvm, I think I found something
[04:42] <Juvenal> Cheri703, share? just switched to xfce and world clock is nice
[04:42] <Cheri703> haven't tried it yet, but: http://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/run-gnome-applets-in-the-xfce-panel/
[04:43] <Cheri703> going to in a sec
[04:43] <dancat> no id3tag
[04:43] <Cheri703> getting my ctrl-alt-t set up to open terminal, I miss that too :)
[04:43] <dancat> will id3 tags on a AAC file corrupt the file?
[04:44] <Juvenal> heh, same Cheri703
[04:44] <Cheri703> hmm...ok, so it's saying that program isn't available, one sec
[04:45] <Juvenal> xfce4-terminal messed me up
[04:45] <Juvenal> so used to 'gnome-terminal'
[04:45] <Cheri703> heh
[04:45] <Cheri703> (for the record, you can set the keyboard shortcut under settings > keyboard
[04:45] <Cheri703> )
[04:46] <Juvenal> yep, found that a minute ago
[04:46] <Cheri703> looks like "xfce4-goodies" is the thing that'll give xfapplets
[04:47] <Juvenal> hmm
[04:47] <Cheri703> and xfapplets allows gnome applets
[04:47] <Juvenal> ok, so dual monitors here
[04:47] <Cheri703> me too :)
[04:47] <Juvenal> where do i change that
[04:47] <Juvenal> right now its just mirrored
[04:47] <Juvenal> and in display i dont see options to change that
[04:47] <Cheri703> ah, so....if you're using xubuntu out of the box you have to set it up with arandr
[04:48] <Cheri703> I am using xfce 4.12 (which is pre pre beta at the moment) and it allows it
[04:48] <Juvenal> brilliant
[04:48] <Cheri703> this explains both options: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html
[04:48] <Juvenal> works ;)
[04:49] <Juvenal> Cheri703, did you recently switch from gnome to xfce too? lol
[04:49] <Cheri703> yeah :) like....thursday
[04:50] <Juvenal> hah, i did the same, but like an hour ago xd
[04:50] <timaaa> Hello im in the middle of setting up xbuntu and im wondering what it means when it. Says no root file.
[04:50] <Cheri703> brb, rebooting
[04:51] <holstein> timaaa: no root partition.. i would just clear out some empty space, and let the installer do the work automatically
[04:51] <holstein> otherwise, you need a partition specified as root, as / ...and you'll want a swap file
[04:52] <timaaa> So what do i do.
[04:52] <timaaa> I have a 200 gig partion do i set it to use that?
[04:52] <holstein> timaaa: depends really.. i suggest, clearing out some free space and letting the installer do it automatically
[04:53] <holstein> if you want the entire 200 for xubuntu, then just choose "use entire drive" or "replace existing OS"
[04:53] <timaaa> I want to keep windows too.
[04:55] <holstein> timaaa: there is an "install alongside windows" option
[04:56] <holstein> i would have my data backed up, and i usually use a live CD and shrink the windows partition, reclaiming some empty space, as i suggested above.... then i let the installer use the empty spcae
[04:56] <holstein> space*
[04:57] <holstein> there are lots of guides and tips.. and different ways to do it... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:57] <Cheri703> Juvenal: ok, bad news :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2004216
[04:57] <Cheri703> looks like xfapplets won't work anymore -_-
[04:57] <Juvenal> ah, lame
[04:57] <timaaa> I have a full backup. So i have to go and configure the partion from windows.
[04:57] <Cheri703> I want world clock dangit!
[04:58] <holstein> timaaa: nope.. you dont have to, but you can,.. windows wont make you an ext4 partition
[04:58] <holstein> timaaa: what do i usually do? make *empty* space, and let the installer do it, automatically
[04:58] <Juvenal> Cheri703, indeed. i collaborate with people all over the world
[04:58] <Juvenal> world clock will be missed
[04:58] <Juvenal> rip
[05:00] <timaaa> Cause i have three partions.
[05:00] <timaaa> Windows, recovery, and windows info
[05:00] <Cheri703> Juvenal: ooo, I had an idea, give me a sec
[05:00] <Juvenal> timaaa, do you want to replace windows, or install along side windows?
[05:01] <holstein> timaaa: its up to you.. i usually simplify, and shrink one
[05:01] <timaaa> Alongside
[05:01] <holstein> Juvenal: dual boot
[05:01] <holstein> timaaa: that page i linked lays out the options pretty well
[05:01] <Juvenal> timaaa, then boot the livecd, use gparted to shrink the partition and install on free space
[05:02] <wadapdoc> hansin I got good and bad news
[05:02] <holstein> timaaa: i think you are trying to create a linux install partition from windows, and windows wont do that (not easily, nor by default)
[05:02] <Cheri703> Ok Juvenal, on your panel, add a "launcher" then from that, add "orage globaltime" then you can set it up. not nearly as easy as the other one, but it'll get you a clickable worldtime thing. will keep poking around
[05:02] <wadapdoc> I got a fresh install and even logged into Xubuntu but after that the system start crashing showing crash reports and froze
[05:03] <hansin> wadapdoc: Good news it installed and booted, bad new after 10 minutes the hard drive started smoking and burst into flames ;)
[05:03] <Cheri703> or you could just have multiple orage clocks with the various time zones :)
[05:03] <wadapdoc> haha not exactlly but it sounded like it was strugling to pass some bad sectors and few errors showed up
[05:04] <hansin> wadapdoc: You used the regular Xubuntu 12.10 release for  LivdCD right? 23 or 64 bit? I don't think it really matter. My guess is that based on the fact that Windows started locking up the way it did, you may have a drive that has seen better days.
[05:04] <wadapdoc> It was something about I/O error, dev sda, sector 588391 and 563176
[05:04] <hansin> Just a guess, but sounds like it. Are you booted from drive or USB right now?
[05:04] <wadapdoc> yes
[05:05] <wadapdoc> It sounds to me as the HDD can't get past the bad sectors
[05:05] <hansin> Just for the fun of it, can you post output from fdisk -l to pastebin again and post link?
[05:05] <wadapdoc> sure
[05:05] <hansin> Just want to see if the Nvidia entries disappeared.
[05:05] <timaaa> Im firing up windows and will resize the windows partion.
[05:06] <holstein> timaaa: you dont use windows for that, though you can.. you can use the ubuntu installer, or gparted from a live CD
[05:06] <Juvenal> Cheri703, nice, ill give that a look
[05:07] <wadapdoc> hansin when I write the fdisk command now nothing happens
[05:07] <holstein> wadapdoc: you trying to recover some data from a dying disk? i use photorec from testdisk
[05:07] <Cheri703> grr, trying to figure out how to make it display in HH:MM am/pm 12 hr clock instead of HH:MM 24 hr clock
[05:07] <hansin> try 'sudo fdisk -l' and then it will ask for your password. This because in HD boot you are not root like in UDB boot.
[05:07] <wadapdoc> nah I got the data recovered I'm trying to run a checkdisk and fix the errors on the hard
[05:08] <Unit193> Cheri703: man strftime  has all the choices.
[05:08] <Cheri703> well, the normal panel clock is fine
[05:08] <Cheri703> but orage globaltime is different
[05:08] <Cheri703> -_-
[05:08] <holstein> wadapdoc: errors, or bad sectors?
[05:08] <wadapdoc> I think both
[05:08] <dancat> Juvenal: by chance, do you know of a better forum to ask media related questions?
[05:08] <holstein> wadapdoc: i would trash it.. you can trust them after they start loosing a bunch of sectors
[05:09] <hansin> personally, I'd just replace the drive since it is a clean boot, but only because I don't know how to get good use out of a drive with bad sectors and all that. Okay, yeah, what holstein said...
[05:09] <Juvenal> dancat, i would ask on the gmediawhatever forum
[05:09] <hansin> I mean clean install.
[05:09] <Juvenal> since the issue is with their application
[05:09] <holstein> dancat: what media? audio? #opensourcemusicians #ubuntustudio
[05:10] <Cheri703> Juvenal: WAIT! There might be a way
[05:10] <Cheri703> hang on
[05:10] <dancat> audio specifically the tagging of AAC and differences between it and id3 and how it effects media programs like gmusicplayer
[05:10] <dancat> thanks juvenal
[05:11] <timaaa> So i just cleared 84 gigs free space
[05:11] <holstein> dancat: i would just edit the tags, and test
[05:11] <dancat> okay
[05:11] <wadapdoc> here it is hansin http://pastebin.com/H2TZ4REc
[05:11] <Cheri703> \o/ I found it I think!
[05:11] <holstein> dancat: i wouldnt trust anything i read or see or that anyone says anyways... i would want to see it
[05:12] <holstein> dancat: its easy to run a few files through there and see first-hand
[05:12] <Cheri703> Juvenal: add the orage clock, then at the far right next to "line 1" and the font setting, click the down arrow, it'll give an "add" option
[05:12] <Cheri703> then you can add more I *think*
[05:12] <Cheri703> maybe?
[05:12] <wadapdoc> I think if I run something like chkdsk that will fix errors and bad sectors this sick little baby might walk again.
[05:12] <Cheri703> wait...ok, nvm >_<
[05:13] <holstein> wadapdoc: nope.. bad sectors are just that... bad.. they can be remapped to a certain degree, but if its failing, its failing
[05:13] <dancat> holstein: is there a reason why adding a id3 tag to an AAC m4a should damage it?
[05:13] <Cheri703> bah, you can add more lines, but not other timezones -_-
[05:13] <holstein> wadapdoc: i would get a diagnostic live CD such as the ulitmate boot cd and run a test that takes more than an hour or so
[05:13] <holstein> dancat: i keep backups, so not for me
[05:13] <wadapdoc> I don't have a DVD rom
[05:13] <holstein> dancat: the tag shouldnt effect the file in that way.. its just  a tag
[05:14] <holstein> or should be...
[05:14] <dancat> ok
[05:14] <hansin> wadapdoc: weird, you still have all the /dev/mapper/nvidia entries, but seems like it booted. I would agree that a new drive would be smart, but maybe do the diagnostics for fun and learn something new and just know for sure.
[05:14] <wadapdoc> Yeah.
[05:14] <dancat> holstein: thanks
[05:14] <holstein> wadapdoc: ?.. live USB.. or a tool from something else
[05:14] <wadapdoc> I got a working laptop next to me
[05:15] <wadapdoc> I'll try to find some software that is alternative to SpinRite
[05:15] <wadapdoc> and try something like a HDD recovery
[05:15] <holstein> wadapdoc: thats why i suggested the ultimate boot cd
[05:15] <wadapdoc> im gonna look into it
[05:16] <holstein> thats my go to live diagnostic.. but you can install something somewhere else.. you just *dont* want to work from that drive while trying to fix it
[05:16] <holstein> thats why i suggested a live CD.. or USB or whatever you have accesss to.. pull it out and put it in the work machine if you want
[05:16] <holstein> you wont fix/scan that drive in any way i would trust while booting an OS from it
[05:17] <wadapdoc> it's such a weird thing
[05:17] <holstein> best case, you force an fsck on reboot and it just automagically fixes it.. but if it has a lot bad sectors, that will just get worse and worse with use
[05:17] <wadapdoc> I never had a harddisk die on me
[05:17] <holstein> wadapdoc: its not really.. *all* hard drives fail
[05:17] <wadapdoc> but had several video cards
[05:18] <hansin> holstein: do you like the ultimate boot CD? I just discovered it because I converted an old Win98 drive to a virtual image that had GRUB installed and I needed to repair the MBR to Win (because converted just the Win partition to virtual image.) Seemed cool.
[05:18] <Cheri703> Juvenal: sorry about all of the rambling, looks like adding a launcher for orage globaltime will be the easiest answer as far as I can tell
[05:19] <holstein> hansin: works for me.. has the vendor tools in there.. its small... fast.. we should discuss in the OT channel though
[05:19] <Juvenal> Cheri703, ok. thanks
[05:20] <hansin> holstein: Okay, well I can explore it more, that is all I was wondering. True, not really Xubuntu. Just glad to see it mentioned so maybe I'll keep a 'physically' copy around, not just mount iso in a VM.
[05:21] <Riberty> what is the keyboard shortcut for minimizing windows?
[05:22] <hansin> wadapdoc: Good night and good luck! Seems you are making progress.
[05:23] <holstein> Riberty: try alt+f9 real quick
[05:23] <hansin> holstein: Thanks for info just listening in. Goodnight (or day) as well.
[05:23] <holstein> hansin: cheers!
[05:23] <Riberty> holstein: it doesnt work. im on xfce
[05:24] <holstein> Riberty: did you browse the shortcuts?
[05:24] <Riberty> yeah it says alt+f9
[05:25] <Riberty> doesnt work tho
[05:25] <holstein> Riberty: doesn anything alt work? doesn alt+4f close?
[05:25] <holstein> open something else, and test alt+f4
[05:25] <Riberty> that works
[05:25] <holstein> Riberty: i would just put it in again, and test
[05:25] <Riberty> i think its cause i installed gala
[05:26] <Riberty> or pantheon
[05:26] <holstein> Riberty: could be.. if you broke it, it might be broken
[05:26] <holstein> Riberty: you can try as a different user, or test with the live CD to make sure its working with your hardware
[05:27] <holstein> i would just add it back in to the shortcuts and try it again
[05:27] <timaaa> Holstein, how do you shrink a partion?
[05:27] <timaaa> From command line
[05:27] <timaaa> ?
[05:28] <holstein> timaaa: i dont
[05:28] <holstein> timaaa: i boot a live CD, and use gparted
[05:29] <holstein> timaaa: OR, i just do it from the installers partitioner
[05:37] <timaaa> Okay i have the xbuntu on a flash drive is that enough?
[05:39] <timaaa> Holstien, ^
[05:40] <holstein> timaaa: ?
[05:40] <holstein> timaaa: you can use tab complete.. you type "hol" and hit tab
[05:40] <holstein> timaaa: enough for what?
[05:41] <timaaa> To do everything i need to
[05:41] <timaaa> For a dual boot
[05:41] <holstein> timaaa: depends on what you want to do
[05:41] <holstein> timaaa: can i setup dual boot with a xubuntu live CD? sure
[05:42] <holstein> timaaa: i would do it much like that link i gave you... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[05:47] <Juvenal> ^me
[05:47] <Juvenal> starting to get things installed :P
[05:47] <Cheri703> yay Juvenal :) I just got my panels sorted since the way I originally wanted to do it isn't possible
[05:48] <Cheri703> fun note Juvenal: if you have a panel on each monitor, you can make the window buttons only display open apps from that monitor, which is handy for my use
[05:49] <JewVanEl> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-01272013-124756am.php
[05:50] <JewVanEl> this looks much cleaner than gnome
[05:50] <Cheri703> nice!
[05:50]  * Cheri703 tries to get s screenshot
[05:50] <JewVanEl> idk what that zimagez thing is
[05:51] <JewVanEl> but it was the option when i prtscn's
[05:54] <Cheri703> http://ubuntuone.com/54emKVVJomjrRiOLwDG7Go
[05:55] <Cheri703> I like my dark themes :D
[05:55] <JewVanEl> since when does netflix support linux?
[05:56] <Cheri703> :D it doesn't, someone band-aid-ed a thing together and it works pretty well
[05:56] <JewVanEl> lmao, nice
[05:56] <Cheri703> http://doctormo.org/2012/11/19/netflix-on-ubuntu-try-this-ppa/
[05:56] <JewVanEl> ill have to play with xfce themes
[05:57] <JewVanEl> i like dark too
[05:57] <Cheri703> I have the quassel dark theme, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/2-beautiful-dark-themes-for-gtk-36-or.html the delorean dark, and I'm running a chrome extension called "hacker vision" that inverts webpages :D
[05:58] <Cheri703> my eyes are really sensitive to light, and even on 15% brightness, staring at a page of black on white all day was giving me headaches from eye strain
[05:58] <Cheri703> (I work from home full-time)
[05:59] <JewVanEl> ah, so its just firefox in wine lol
[05:59] <JewVanEl> kinda figured as much
[05:59] <Cheri703> heh, yeah, with some custom stuff sorted out
[05:59] <Cheri703> apparently
[05:59] <holstein> its more that just FF though... a few other key tweaks
[06:02] <JewVanEl> mmm, hacker vision
[06:02] <JewVanEl> i like this
[06:02] <Cheri703> yus
[06:02] <Cheri703> if you combine it with "change colors" it helps on sites that were dark or colored to start with. You can create a standard point for it to work from (if that makes sense?)
[06:03] <Cheri703> I can show examples, I took screenshots trying to explain this to someone else last night :)
[06:04] <JewVanEl> i think ill figure it out :)
[06:04] <Cheri703> happy eyeeeees
[06:13] <donnie> True or False. I read that if I want to get rid of Thunderbird. If and when it asks to remove xubuntu-desktop. That, that is perfectly safe without ruining the distro, or having to fix anything.
[06:14] <Cheri703> you can just remove thunderbird, it doesn't (or at least didn't for me) ask to remove xubuntu-desktop
[06:16] <Unit193> donnie: If it were to ask you, it'd be fine.  As it is a recommends of the package, don't think it'd ask though.
[06:17] <donnie> Ok. So I am safe just incase? Because I am on xubuntu
[06:17] <JewVanEl> it will only ask if there is nothing else that depends on it
[06:17] <Unit193> xubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it's fine if uninstalling something removes that as well.
[06:18] <donnie> Ok thank you.
[07:57] <Linuxland> can i remove a gnome shell?
[08:21] <firefenix> Добрый день!
[08:21] <firefenix> Есть проблема с caffeine на xubuntu 12.10 x64
[08:22] <firefenix> Установился, но не запускается и не открываются настройки
[08:24] <baizon> !ru | firefenix
[08:25] <firefenix> Thanks!
[08:53] <devdel> hello and good morning.
[08:54] <devdel> im installing xubuntu on a dell inspiron 1150 as we speak.
[08:54] <devdel> it's a real old laptop. :)
[08:57] <devdel> tried installing debian on it but it didnt have the drivers for the disk. xubuntu has though. :)
[09:27] <firefenix> Sorry for my english.  In russian's chat not want help me.
[09:31] <firefenix> I cannot launch caffeine on xubuntu 12.10 x64. establish normal.
[09:58] <tion_> anyone in here?
[10:06] <nicholosophy> hey guys
[10:07] <nicholosophy> I'm having some issues with my xfce indicator plugin stuff
[10:07] <nicholosophy> some of the items are just a black box with a red crossed out circle
[10:07] <nicholosophy> but sometimes they come up ok
[10:07] <nicholosophy> is it something I can fix through configuration or is it just going to be hit and miss?
[10:31] <c2tarun> in xfce-look.org there are many themes without zoom option in there screenshots. I click on the images and they don't zoom out.
[10:37] <difo> hello :)
[10:37] <c2tarun> difo, hello
[10:38] <difo> is there anyone who can i ask for php and mysql app running like xamp on windows
[10:38] <c2tarun> difo, I think you are in wrong channel. Try #php
[10:39] <difo> thanks
[10:39] <difo> must be invited to join there
[10:39] <difo> :(
[10:40] <c2tarun> what??
[10:40] <c2tarun> difo, try ##PHP
[10:40] <difo> is there is any default "root" password in xubuntu?
[10:41] <c2tarun> difo, root password for what?
[10:41] <difo> to install mysql
[10:42] <difo> [12:39] == #php Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited [12:40] == ##PHP Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[10:42] <nicholosophy> the root password for mysql is not the system root password
[10:42] <nicholosophy> you should set it to something secure
[10:42] <nicholosophy> difo, register with services then (type /ns help
[10:42] <difo> so is there default root password?
[10:42] <nicholosophy> I just answered your question
[10:43] <difo> im just installing xubuntu
[10:43] <difo> and its not asking me for the root pass
[10:43] <difo> only userpass
[10:43] <difo> u know
[10:44] <nicholosophy> mysql does not need your root password to install
[10:44] <c2tarun> difo, Xubuntus password is not same as mysql password
[10:44] <nicholosophy> mysql will ask you to set the mysql root password, which is different
[10:46] <c2tarun> nicholosophy, BTW do you have any idea how to change the image of close button in my current theme?
[10:47] <nicholosophy> c2tarun, no idea, sorry
[10:51] <tion_> how do i get res over 640x480 after installing nvidia drver?
[10:51] <tion_> how do i enable compiz?
[10:52] <tion_> caompiz configuration util lets you set costume res will that work?
[12:32] <herpaderpa> Hello, ive got a nVidia GeForce 8400M GT GPU that i would like to get working in xubuntu 12.04. Any advice on where to start?
[12:35] <herpaderpa> goto reboot brb
[14:06] <akafakir> Hi guys, I've installed xubuntu-desktop over ubuntu. It runs fine, but I have a little inconsistency between the themes in different application. In some menu's are gray, and in some they're still dark like it was in ubuntu. Here is the screenshot: http://storage1.static.itmages.com/i/13/0127/h_1359295469_2259154_f9b180137d.png
[14:06] <akafakir> How can I fix it?
[14:07] <Os_Maleus1> Hi guys!
[14:10] <Os_Maleus1> I am running xubuntu 12.04.1 3.2.0-36-generic-pae running on this machine. yesterday, I was taking with my router to the working place. since that, I am not able to log on on that anymore. with other machines, it is no problem - may it effect Win7 or Xubuntu.
[14:10] <Os_Maleus1> can You give me a proposal, how to deal with this?
[14:44] <genoobie> morning all
[14:44] <genoobie> I am having trouble with my xubuntu install
 whats happen?
[14:49] <genoobie> well
[14:49] <genoobie> I am sort of compulsive about certain things
[14:49] <genoobie> I am now using the livecd to modify the partition table
[14:49] <genoobie> because for some reason, the installed starts at /sda5
[14:50] <genoobie> but there is only sda1 with something installed on it
[14:51] <genoobie> I think my etc/fstab must be a bit screwed up
[14:51] <River> s
[14:56] <genoobie> holy crap, using a live-cd on an old machine sucks
[15:40] <genoobie> the xubuntu installer is confusing
[15:40] <genoobie> I know it should be simpler
[15:40] <torax> what about it is confusing?
[15:41] <genoobie> well the partitioning tool is asking for things that I'm not really sure about
[15:41] <genoobie> I have three partitions
[15:42] <genoobie> sda1 is for an xp install, ntfs
[15:42] <genoobie> sda2 is 1GB swap
[15:42] <genoobie> sd3 is ext4 and I want to install xubuntu there
[15:42] <genoobie> although, i am not sure why swap needs its own partition
[15:42] <genoobie> is that "normal"?
[15:43] <torax> It is
[15:43] <genoobie> when I try to install xubuntu on /sda3 it mentions something about no root filesystem defined
[15:43] <genoobie> I'd rather have it installed on sda2
[15:43] <genoobie> and have sda3 as the swap
[15:44] <genoobie> the installer's "install besides xp" is confusing, there's a slide, but I'm not really sure what the slider is adjusting
[15:44] <genoobie> so I'll probably boot to the live-cd swap the partitions
[15:44] <torax> it adjust the space left for xp and space for xubuntu
[15:44] <genoobie> i.e. make sda2 an ext4 and sda3 a swap
[15:45] <genoobie> but when I get to the install screen its asking for a root filesystem to be defined
[15:45] <genoobie> is that just formatting?
[15:47] <torax> you choose the partition where you like to install xubuntu, that is the root, and you can format it as ext2,3,4. I suggest using ext4 in normal use
[15:47] <genoobie> I know this is compulsive, but I'd rather have the OS on sda2
[15:48] <genoobie> should I not care?
[15:48] <torax> I dont know if that matters, but you can do that way also
[15:49] <genoobie> okay, I will put this on "sda3" then
[15:50] <genoobie> I am planning to use openbox most likely as the wm
[15:50] <genoobie> anyhow that doesn't really matter
[15:50] <genoobie> torax, are you still here?
[15:50] <torax> yes
[15:50] <genoobie> okay, so I am going to leave the partitions alone
[15:50] <torax> ok
[15:51] <genoobie> "/sda1 is for ntfs - xp, /sda2 is for swap, /sda3 for xubuntu
[15:51] <torax> looks good
[15:51] <genoobie> but here's the thing, when then installer says "install beside xp" or "do something else" I am going to pick "do something else"
[15:52] <genoobie> at this point is where I become a bit confused
[15:53] <torax> just a sec
[15:53] <genoobie> torax, ok
[15:55] <torax> ok, click the sda3, the xubuntu partition. then click change "uset as ext4" and "mount point /"
[15:56] <genoobie> tx!
[15:57] <genoobie> that's what I was looking for
[15:57] <torax> :)
[16:26] <bennett1> hi! anyone knows how to change the appearance of lightdm's login box?
[16:27] <bennett1> in special, I wanted to change the color that goes behind a selected text from blue to red
[16:28] <genoobie> no idea sorry
[16:28] <bennett1> ok :)
[16:35] <daswort> Hi, i upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and two different maschines. On one the xscreensaver loginwindow is black and the other is in xubuntus colors. I reinstalled xubuntu-artwork but that doesnt work. Any suggestions?
[16:41] <bullgard4> daswort: "doesn't work" is no precise statement. Please try to find a relevant error message in ~/.xsession-errors. Also, dmesg may have a hint.
[16:42] <xubuntu663> hello
[16:42] <xubuntu663> anyone here?
[16:42] <xubuntu663> hola
[16:42] <xubuntu663> alguien aqui?
[16:42] <bullgard4> xubuntu663: no
[16:42] <daswort> bullgard4: sorry. i mean that the theming of the login window is black (xscreensaver).
[16:43] <xubuntu663> hi daswort
[16:44] <xubuntu663> hi bullgard4
[16:44] <xubuntu663> I am ruben
[16:45] <daswort> hi xubuntu663 this is not the offtopic channel. this one is just for support.
[16:45] <xubuntu663> HI
[16:45] <xubuntu663> you
[16:45] <xubuntu663> all
[16:46] <xubuntu663> ah ok
[16:46] <xubuntu663> thanks
[16:46] <xubuntu663> thank you
[16:47] <xubuntu663> Can I ask a question regarding grub?
[16:48] <daswort> bullgard4: any idea how to change the theming of xscreensaver windows?
[16:49] <xubuntu663> how to change the drive where grub is installed?, I wish it boots from the usb pendrive where I have installed xubuntu
[16:50] <xubuntu663> now (my error) it is installing on the hard drive
[16:53] <xubuntu663> did I was clear?
[16:53] <bullgard4> daswort:  With me, Xfce-menu > Settings > Screensaver > Screensaver Settings > Display Modes. (Often with me there appeears a message window too: "Warning! Apparently your XScreenSaver service for display does not run. Should it be started now? OK | Quit")
[16:58] <daswort> thats my problem: http://imgur.com/pbY5Ebf the theming is wrong
[17:00] <bullgard4> xubuntu663: I can recommend ou an article in German: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GRUB_2/Reparatur
[17:00] <xubuntu663> ok
[17:01] <xubuntu663> thankyou I will take a look on it
[17:03] <bullgard4> daswort: All what I can see from http://imgur.com/pbY5Ebf is that you need to type your password.  Can you elaborate.
[17:08] <daswort> I want that xscreens. shows it windows in the colors of the xubuntu artwork, like it does if you make a fresh install.
[17:13] <bullgard4> daswort: Right. But at the moent you can only escape by keying in your password.
[17:13] <daswort> Thats not the point.
[17:13] <bullgard4> I see.
[17:14] <bullgard4> That's why I asked you to elaborate.
[17:17] <daswort> I just want the right color scheme for xscreensaver :(
[17:18] <Cheri703> daswort: did you see this?http://askubuntu.com/questions/85109/how-do-i-theme-the-xscreensaver-unlock-screen
[17:19] <daswort> thats what i want. but where can i get the file without starting a live cd?
[17:20] <Cheri703> I'd just create a file called .Xresources and copy/paste from that answer
[17:20] <Cheri703> because it says "create/amend the file"
[17:20] <Cheri703> so...you should just be able to make one
[17:20] <Cheri703> I believe
[17:21] <Cheri703> The final answer says they made custom colors "Following fossfreedom's example, I chose the following settings in a a newly created ~/.Xresources file, and I found the result quite attractive (a dark-background theme with gentle blues):"
[17:21] <daswort> yes, but i want the xubuntu 12.10 default one :)
[17:22] <Cheri703> I installed fresh for xubuntu 12.10
[17:22] <Cheri703> I do not have a .Xresources file
[17:22] <Cheri703> so....I don't know that you will have a "default" one
[17:22] <Cheri703> you can either leave it as is, or give it a config
[17:22] <daswort> weird. okay, thanks.
[17:23] <Cheri703> yeah, I dunno WHY it is like that, just...apparently it is
[17:23] <Cheri703> some other thing might have changed it in its config, thus the weird colors, so now you have to say "disregard that, use this one" ...apparently
[20:17] <unanything> Hello
[20:18] <Guest33032> hi
[20:18] <unanything> i have a problem with installation from usb and from cd: the program hangs up when i click "next" (at second dialog).
[20:18] <Guest33032> do you need help
[20:19] <unanything> i read about this bug about 4 month ago. and nothing changed. yes. i want to know what to do
[20:20] <unanything> thanks.
[20:20] <Guest33032> take it out then reload
[20:24] <Guest33032> hello you there
[20:28] <unanything> i'm booting from livecd. how reloading can helps with bug of installation?
[20:29] <unanything> after choosing language and confirming third-party software. program hangs on "next" button
[20:29] <kgb> unanything: how did you make the USB, what version of Xubuntu?
[20:31] <kgb> if from windows, try both: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ and http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[20:33] <kgb> or if you can load the liveusb, try re-making it with the Startup Disk Creator
[20:48] <unanything> i used unetbootin for usb and k3b for cd
[20:49] <kgb> and you've tried, both 12.04 and 12.10?..
[20:50] <unanything> ох и глючный у вас дистр.
[20:50]  * kgb isn't russian :)
[20:50] <unanything> i tried 12.10
[20:50] <unanything> ok. i'll try 12.04
[20:50] <kgb> maybe 12.04 will install, you can always upgrade :s
[20:50] <unanything> )
[20:51] <kgb> just.. make sure that the disk is simple - like no left-over bootloader for windows, if dual booting
[20:51] <kgb> lots of things can mess the installer up.. don't make a partition, let it use blank space
[20:52] <unanything> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[20:52] <unanything> making 1 partition with fdisk
[20:52] <kgb> no need
[20:52] <unanything> and mkfs.vfat -n label /dev/sdb1
[20:53] <unanything> unetbootin wants fat partition
[20:53] <kgb> the installer can do it
[20:53] <unanything> it is standard procedure
[20:53] <kgb> *for HDD
[20:53] <unanything> it's about usb
[20:55] <kgb> when mine messes up, i repair windows from the cd, delete the ubuntu partitions (at the end of the drive) and let the live usb use the empty space while keeping windows
[20:56] <kgb> *fixboot and fixmbr
[20:57] <unanything> thanks) but i don't have windows at all. i have gentoo and arch with custom grub2.0 on hdd
[20:57] <kgb> ok, so that may be where the problem lies
[20:58] <unanything> in my opinion the problem in Xubuntu install program. it's obviously
[21:00] <kgb> right, but you have 2 distros and install a third one - might take some work to get it to install..:)
[21:00] <kgb> *installing
[21:00] <drc> Of course, the xubuntu installer has never worked for any other thousands of uses before you, so it must be that.
[21:00] <drc> stupid people
[21:03] <unanything> problem occurs Before the installer start working  with the disks. where is the stupidity ?
[21:06] <kgb> no stupidity, perhaps just something that's not easy 2 do
[21:06] <unanything> 12.04 seems working
[21:07] <kgb> oh :-0 nice, lol
[21:07] <unanything> thanks for help!
[21:07] <kgb> :)
[21:07] <unanything> but you have a big bug there. look to the internet. everybody have the same problem...
[21:09] <kgb> upgrading to 12.10 will try to change grub as well i think, btw.
[21:10] <unanything> will see)
[21:19] <petergk> hi all
[21:41] <davit> Khe-khe... Test.. Test...
[21:41] <davit> Is anybody here?
[21:41] <davit> Hey!
[21:42] <davit> I'm bored...
[21:42] <davit> Is ANYBODYBODY ALIVE HERE??
[21:42] <davit> Blyaaa
[21:43] <davit> time
[21:43] <davit> #time
[21:43] <davit> echo
[21:43] <davit> fdl
[21:43] <davit> dsf
[21:43] <davit> asdfds
[21:43] <davit> af
[21:43] <davit> ads
[21:43] <davit> fads
[21:43] <davit> f
[21:43] <davit> ads
[21:43] <davit> f
[21:43] <davit> sad
[21:43] <davit> fds
[21:43] <davit> f
[21:43] <davit> dasf
[21:43] <davit> dsaf
[21:43] <davit> ads
[21:43] <davit> f
[21:43] <davit> dsa
[21:56] <petergk> I was alive
[22:18] <perlo> hello! i've been having trouble with upgrades on my asus eee, i'm not sure which upgrade because i haven't been able to pinpoint this, but i'm wondering if you know of anyone else having had this problem, and if you've found a solution?
[22:18] <perlo> what happens is that i'm prompted to reboot, and after it's rebooted, the blue flash screen runs through and then the screen goes black, but it appears xubuntu is running properly except for this. Ctrl-Alt-F1 switches to terminal and i can run commands. the only solution so far is to reinstall xubuntu, but having to do this every other day becomes a bit tiresome.
[22:19] <genoobie> hey all
[22:22] <perlo> hi :)
[22:22] <genoobie> ugh, i think i made a mistake to go with xubuntu vs lubuntu
[22:23] <genoobie> seems really slow on this older machine
[22:23] <genoobie> was wondering if there were some easy ways to improve performance
[22:24] <genoobie> I mean it is slower than xp
[22:24] <genoobie> and that really should not be...
[22:25] <genoobie> any tips?
[22:25] <knome> windows xp is from 2001, xubuntu 12.xx is from 2012.
[22:25] <knome> how much ram?
[22:26] <genoobie> little, 384, going to 512 in a few days
[22:26] <knome> 512 might be doable, but lubuntu might be better for you any way
[22:26] <genoobie> ok
[22:26] <genoobie> tx!
[22:27] <genoobie> if i changed wm or de would that make a diff?
[22:29] <genoobie> how can i check if the swap is being used?
[22:32] <genoobie> ok
[22:32] <genoobie> it says 360K of mem is being used
[22:32] <genoobie> how can I check what is using it...
[22:34] <genoobie> urgh
[22:41] <Boom_Farmer> How would I go about getting XFCE 4.10 in Xubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:42] <Boom_Farmer> Is it as simple as adding a ppa, apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade? http://it-diary.com/tutorials/install-xfce-4-10-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin/
[23:02] <genoobie> is it normal for something like 120 processes to be running in the background?
[23:07] <Boom_Farmer> genoobie: I've got 141 with about 15 tabs of Chromium, Apache, MYSQL, some PDFs and some terminal stuff.
[23:08] <Boom_Farmer> 37 of those are system processes running as root.
[23:26] <saltmiser> so
[23:27] <saltmiser> realistically
[23:27] <saltmiser> what problems would I have on xubuntu that I wouldn't have on ubuntu?
[23:28] <Boom_Farmer> Well, the base system is the same. Any issues would be with the XFCE system, so the core apps, the window manager, the desktop.
[23:28] <Boom_Farmer> Not sure about the specifics.
[23:39] <Cheri703> I was using regular ubuntu and had been having weird glitches and issues, I was thinking it was my computer dying in some way. Switched to xubuntu, and at least since thursday have had NONE of the same issues.
[23:39] <Cheri703> so...for me the opposite.
[23:55] <satanx> hi
[23:55] <satanx> can i ask a question?
[23:56] <satanx> is their problems mounting ssd in xubuntu?


[00:41] <EvilResistance> how do you tell what package contains which command?
[01:21] <astrostl> i have a dummy entry in my hostfile: <IP_ADDRESS> fake.derp
[01:22] <astrostl> my nsswitch is configured to search files first: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[01:22] <astrostl> getent hosts <IP_ADDRESS> returns what i expect: <IP_ADDRESS>      fake.derp
[01:22] <astrostl> host <IP_ADDRESS> (a generic reverse lookup) fails: Host <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[01:22] <astrostl> any ideas?
[01:42] <astrostl> wondering if host doesn't call gethostbyname...
[01:48] <astrostl> got it, nm.  i was looking at this to investigate a mysql rdns issue, for some reason the client was reaching out via its vpn rather than its lan ip.  it was failing because that (understandably) didn't have rdns.
[03:37] <axisys> T_A_N_K: http://paste.ubuntu.com/972745/ <-- is there to shrink it?
[03:38] <twb> Is your question "how do I shrink an LV" ?
[03:38] <axisys> twb: yes.. i like to shrink the swap lv
[03:39] <twb> First do "swapoff /dev/vg0/swap" so that it doesn't show up in /proc/swaps anymore
[03:40] <twb> Then, once you're sure it's not in use, you can "lvreduce --size 2g /dev/vg0/swap" or whatever.
[03:42] <axisys> swapoff success.. top shows 0 swap total
[03:42] <virusuy> before swapon your swap LV again, remember to execute mkswap
[03:44] <axisys> http://paste.ubuntu.com/972795/ <-- should I use -f ?
[03:44] <twb> virusuy: oh good point, thanks
[03:44] <twb> You will also need to update /etc/fstab to have the new UUID after a mkswap
[03:44] <virusuy> twb: you're very welcome
[03:45] <axisys> twb: so use -f ?
[03:45] <twb> axisys: yes, I think so, lvreduce -f before mkswap
[03:45] <virusuy> axisys: that's not necessary
[03:46] <virusuy> just swapon your swap and see if it's 2G
[03:46] <axisys> virusuy: thanks
[03:46] <virusuy> no problem :)
[03:46] <axisys> virusuy: yep 2g
[03:46] <virusuy> :)
[03:46] <virusuy> as you can see in your mkswap output
[03:47] <virusuy> at the end says something like
[03:47] <virusuy> "Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 2097148 KiB"
[03:47] <virusuy> that size it's 2G
[03:47] <axisys> virusuy: right
[03:48] <axisys> virusuy: what's the don't erase bootbits sector for ?
[03:52] <virusuy> axisys: not sure
[03:53] <twb> axisys: where do you see that?
[03:54] <virusuy> twb: when he execute mkswap
[03:54] <twb> It probably just means that the first few blocks are not used in case they contain boot information
[03:54] <twb> e.g. if you did mkswap on a whole disk
[03:55] <twb> But that's just a guess
[03:56] <virusuy> yes, seems like that
[03:57] <virusuy> and also, it's a warning message
[03:59] <virusuy> philipballew: are you at UDS ?
[04:01] <philipballew> virusuy, yeah. you at the hotel?
[04:01] <philipballew> Im on the first floor
[04:01] <virusuy> nop... just at home
[04:01] <virusuy> far, really far away
[04:01] <philipballew> ahh man
[04:01] <virusuy> philipballew: i hope to be there next cycle
[04:02] <philipballew> where do you live?
[04:02] <virusuy> Uruguay, South America
[04:02] <philipballew> Ive never been there!!!
[04:02] <virusuy> you should!
[04:02] <philipballew> wanna fly me out there?
[04:03] <virusuy> you should be here for next UbuconLA
[04:03] <philipballew> if you fly me out i will
[04:03] <virusuy> http://www.ubuconla.org/
[04:03] <virusuy> philipballew: i would love .. but i can't
[04:04] <virusuy> would be great have you here givin a talk
[04:04] <philipballew> virusuy, on what exactly?
[04:05] <virusuy> i don't know.. ubuntu is the main topic
[04:05] <virusuy> could be community, your own experience at UDS
[04:05] <philipballew> I have several topics I can do them on. If you want to fly me out there, I will do them
[04:06] <virusuy> i'm not part of the organization team.. but i'll talk to them to see what they can do
[04:06] <virusuy> this year is in Buenos Aires, Argentina
[04:06] <virusuy> next one, in my city, Montevideo, here in Uruguay
[04:07] <philipballew> what times throughout the year
[04:07] <virusuy> this year is June 1st and 2nd
[04:07] <virusuy> and next year will be someday near those
[04:08] <philipballew> i can do that. I can do that this year
[04:08] <virusuy> next one ?
[04:09] <philipballew> yes. I can
[04:09] <virusuy> well, i'll send an email to ubunconLA staffs to see what can they do
[04:09] <philipballew> haha, sure
[04:09] <virusuy> this year or next one
[04:09] <philipballew> well, have a good time!
[04:09] <philipballew> i gtg
[04:10] <virusuy> you too
[04:54] <virusuy> http://eindbazen.net/2012/05/php-cgi-advisory-cve-2012-1823/
[04:55] <virusuy> for those of you who manage apache + php + cgi servers
[04:55] <virusuy> please, update your php :-)
[04:56] <twb> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/
[04:57] <twb> IMO the correct solution is to remove (not upgrade) PHP
[04:57] <virusuy> :)
[04:57] <virusuy> the "sad" part here is, php release a bug fix, and the bug fix itself has a bug
[04:57] <virusuy> that's really weird
[04:58] <twb> Brooks says the chance of introducing a new bug, in a bug fix, is 20% to 50%
[04:58] <virusuy> well, PHP is in between those percents :-=
[04:58] <virusuy> :-)
[04:59] <twb> Adding a remote execution attack when they tried to fix the md5 checksum issue was pretty pathetic though
[04:59] <virusuy> yeah
[04:59] <virusuy> true
[05:04] <virusuy> well, seems like php folks will have a rough time
[05:07] <koolhead17> ?
[05:07] <virusuy> http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ koolhead17
[05:07] <virusuy> ups, wrong link
[05:07] <virusuy> http://eindbazen.net/2012/05/php-cgi-advisory-cve-2012-1823/
[05:19] <virusuy> gents, it's 2:20 am here in Uruguay
[05:19] <virusuy> time to bed
[05:19] <virusuy> see you tomorrow
[05:20] <virusuy> time for* bed
[06:13] <Auckla> I would just like to say, that I am pretty sure there is something incompatible with 12.04 and my AMD Sempron 1.5ghz machine. :*(
[06:13] <Auckla> Checked MD5, downloaded via HTTP and torrent, and three USB keys. Gets stuck looking for linux kernal.
[06:13] <Auckla> Not that it really matters, it is a dated machine. Just thought I would say.
[07:03] <sh_t> has anyone noticed any issues with precise and the ixgbe driver/10GE cards? my fresh install "times out" and drops to a busybox shell at boot immediately after some ixgbe messages during boot
[07:11] <twb> What evidence do you have that the 10g cards are the issue
[07:11] <twb> i.e. couldn't they just be the last *working* thing before the unrelated failure?
[08:38]  * kokyu waves
[08:39] <Ztane> PostgreSQL: FATAL:  could not load private key file "server.key": key values mismatch
[08:39] <Ztane> why on earth the pg package STILL tries to use the snakeoil key by default, when it never works
[08:39] <kokyu> Hey. I still don't actually get what *MAAS* is there for. I know that it means "Metal as a Service" and that it is meant to be some kind of server provisioning system, but what does it mean? Is it a OpenStack/etc competant, like manager for virtual machines (KVM/LXC/XEN/etc) on it or what?
[08:51] <journeeman> kokyu: MaaS helps you install an OS and other software like Openstack on top of it (using Juju) remotely, using the web GUI on the MaaS server. For eg., you can remotely install Ubuntu Server + Openstack on say 5 machines using the MaaS web GUI.
[08:52] <kokyu> ah
[08:52] <kokyu> so speaking of layers, MaaS is for setting up machines (remotely)
[08:55] <lifeless> more or less
[08:55] <lifeless> and tearing them down
[09:13] <twb> kokyu: pfft, that's what PXE and cunning preseeds are for
[09:45] <Destreyf> anyone have an idea on how long juju initalizes? i can ssh the node but juju -v status hangs on "DEBUG Environment still initializing. Will wait."
[09:50] <blendedbychris> anyone in here using glusterfs?
[09:50] <blendedbychris> i can't get my drive to mount without it hanging when trying to access the mount point
[11:00] <Jernej_Work> hello everyone
[11:00] <Jernej_Work> i need to upgrade whois
[11:00] <Jernej_Work> how do i do this?
[11:01] <Jernej_Work>  whois <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:01] <Jernej_Work> Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program.
[11:01] <Jernej_Work> apt-get install whois
[11:01] <Jernej_Work> Reading package lists... Done
[11:01] <Jernej_Work> Building dependency tree
[11:01] <Jernej_Work> Reading state information... Done
[11:01] <Jernej_Work> whois is already the newest version.
[11:01] <Jernej_Work> so i need to update whois somehow, because it's causing large amout of issues.
[11:36] <oCean> Jernej_Work: what is you current version? I have no issue doing that whois in ubuntu 12.04
[11:37] <Jernej_Work> if i knew how to check..
[11:37] <oCean> Jernej_Work: for whois:  apt-cache policy whois
[11:38] <oCean> for your ubuntu version: lsb_release -a
[11:38] <Jernej_Work> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[11:38] <Jernej_Work> Description:    Ubuntu 10.10
[11:38] <Jernej_Work> Release:        10.10
[11:38] <Jernej_Work> Codename:       maverick
[11:38] <Jernej_Work> whois:
[11:38] <Jernej_Work>   Installed: 5.0.7ubuntu1
[11:38] <Jernej_Work>   Candidate: 5.0.7ubuntu1
[11:38] <oCean> Jernej_Work: Ubuntu 10.10 is end of life
[11:38] <oCean> so no upgrades provided
[11:38] <oCean> eh, updates that is
[11:38] <Jernej_Work> well i just need to get a new whois
[11:38] <Jernej_Work> apparently
[11:39] <oCean> Jernej_Work: yes, those updates are no longer provided, since the release is end of life
[11:39] <Jernej_Work> can't i get a whois from newer release?
[11:40] <Jernej_Work> i need just that
[11:40] <oCean> Sure you could try, but remember mixing software versions might get you in all kinds of trouble (dependencies and all....)
[11:40] <Jernej_Work> it's just a whois tool
[11:40] <Jernej_Work> i don't get it why it even needs updating
[11:42] <oCean> See, the whois from most recent ubuntu version: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/whois
[11:42] <Jernej_Work> how would i install just whois from that package?
[11:42] <oCean> however, it depends on a more recent glibc6 version than available in 10.10
[11:42] <oCean> !info libc6 maverick
[11:47] <memoryleak> I get \e[1;31mnot running:\e[0m instead of colored "not running" - what I'm doing wrong?
[11:52] <Jernej_Work> so how do i install those 2 specific things?
[11:53] <oCean> Jernej_Work: you don't update your glibc6 package, it is one of the core packages of your system
[11:53] <Jernej_Work> well
[11:53] <Jernej_Work> i'll consider a upgrade with the owner of the server then
[11:53] <oCean> that is probably wisest thing to do :)
[11:53] <Jernej_Work> NO IT IS NOT
[11:54] <Jernej_Work> it's a whois program
[11:54] <Jernej_Work> why does it even need updating?!
[11:54] <Jernej_Work> seriously
[11:54] <oCean> I have no idea, maintainers of whois databases might know
[11:54] <Jernej_Work> they need a demonstration of napalm.. :(
[11:54] <oCean> Jernej_Work: no need for that kind of attitude here
[11:56] <Jernej_Work> attitude..altitude..aptitude.. :D
[11:56] <Jernej_Work> it was a joke anyways
[12:53] <elspuddy> hi each time i run the command byobu on my ubuntu server it keeps drawing the stats bit and makes the page go up, how do i fix this ?
[12:56] <benji> elspuddy: what terminal are you using?  I've seen that happen under some very odd circumstances relating to poor terminal emulation
[13:02] <gary_poster> elspuddy, try making sure your terminal is in utf8 encoding?
[13:09] <elspuddy> sorry about that, my desktop boz ent funky
[13:09] <elspuddy> boz - box
[13:10] <elspuddy> benji, putty
[13:11] <benji> elspuddy: hmm, wild guess: run it under screen and see if it behaves better
[13:17] <elspuddy> screen run fine
[13:17] <elspuddy> just trying to find out if putty is useing utf8 enconding
[13:19] <benji> elspuddy: running screen and then byobu didn't cause the unwanted scrolling?
[13:20] <elspuddy> sorry i missunder stood, iv just ran byobu still give's me the unwanted scrooling
[13:32] <hex20dec> Hey everyone.
[13:32] <hex20dec> So I'm just testing my site, and I sent myself an email and suddenly, the email was not received on my gmail.
[13:32] <hex20dec> So I looked at the mail reports and it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/973532/
[13:32] <hex20dec> By the way, it was working fine for a few months and it just now stopped.
[13:33] <patdk-wk> stop sending so much junk to gmail, and they won't block you :)
[13:33] <patdk-wk> that is exactly what it tells you
[13:34] <hex20dec> patdk-wk: I realized that, but my site isn't just at all, it's not even fully running, and the only email address that emails were sent to is mine, because I'm testing it.
[13:34] <hex20dec> junk***
[13:34] <patdk-wk> are you *sure*?
[13:34] <hex20dec> 100%
[13:34] <patdk-wk> you haven't been hacked? or abused?
[13:34] <hex20dec> 100% sure
[13:35] <hex20dec> No one even knows about my site.
[13:35] <patdk-wk> gmail doesn't do that unless someone keeps clicking *spam* to All your emails
[13:35] <patdk-wk> if it's on the internet, someone knows about it
[13:35] <hex20dec> patdk-wk: You're right about that.
[13:36] <hex20dec> But, my site does not even send emails randomly, it only sends emails to either verify email address or forgot password function.
[13:36] <reide> Could someone help me with an install and setup? It's a question that has been asked a million times on the internet, but I can't seem to get things to work.
[13:36] <hex20dec> So it can never be abused.
[13:37] <patdk-wk> your positive there is no possible way for someone to crack that code?
[13:37] <hex20dec> Yes.
[13:37] <jandrusk> You can never have 100% assurance in security.
[13:37]  * RoyK mumbles something about famous last wods
[13:37]  * RoyK mumbles something about famous last words
[13:38] <patdk-wk> dunno, I'm used to locating hacked websites multible times a day
[13:38] <hex20dec> jandrusk: You're right, but it's not the case.
[13:39] <xranby> reide: i think this is what you are looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installation.html
[13:39] <patdk-wk> I'm not sure what the offical gmail unusual rate is, but it's not low, it's a few hundred emails per hour, min
[13:40] <hex20dec> Lol, I haven't touched my site for about a month and all of a sudden this happened.
[13:40] <hex20dec> Meaning, emails weren't sent out for a month.
[13:40] <hex20dec> Can I check to see all the sent emails from my server?
[13:40] <patdk-wk> nope
[13:40] <patdk-wk> you can only check for emails sent via your mta
[13:40] <patdk-wk> you can't check for ones sent via some scriptkiddie
[13:41] <danp_> Hello, I was having some trouble setting up FastCGI with apache2. I have the module loaded but when I attempt to execute any kind of FastCGI script the request hangs
[13:43] <urthmover> Am I able to look at the date/timestamp on dmesg.0 to identify when the last reboot occurred?
[13:44] <hex20dec> patdk-wk: One more thing I forgot to mention that might help solve this case. Whenever I looked at the headers of the emails that were sent from my site, it was always on "Received-SPF: neutral", I tried getting this to work properly, but I don't have much knowledge about this.
[13:49] <danp_> At the very least is there any way I can view packages that depend on a package? I found the command dpkg-deb -I but you are apparently supposed to give it a .deb file as an argument and I installed the package through apt-get
[13:49] <hex20dec> patdk-wk ?
[13:57] <elspuddy> going mack to my scrooling byobu problem, it runs fine if i log into my desktop pc, so it cant be putty
[13:58] <benji> interesting; as a workaround you could disable the status line (if that's even possible with byobu, I don't know much about it)
[14:00] <urthmover> I'm having trouble with the nouveau driver and my monitor.  nouveau 0000:0a:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for DP-1  Thinking that I could just change "nouveau" to "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf would fix it.  But there is not xorg.conf.  Will someone give me some help with resolving this?
[14:03] <xranby> urthmover: you can add a xorg.conf
[14:03] <urthmover> xranby: I'm doing that now actually. maybe this will help
[14:03] <urthmover> xranby: thanks for speaking up
[14:11] <kpettit> Is there any good tools for monitoring the number of active users and/or pages Apache is doing?
[14:12] <kpettit> I'm getting some complaints about a website not working good so I want to monitor load and such.  Top just isn't doing it for me.  Any suggestions?
[14:13] <ahxcjb> sure
[14:13] <ahxcjb> kpettit: opsview.com
[14:13] <jsmith-argotec> Having a problem upgrading slapd... using some proposed fixes but there's a dependency issue I don't understand... if someone has a moment to discuss
[14:13] <kpettit> ahxcjb, thanks I'll check it out
[14:14] <ahxcjb> http://www.opsview.com/whats-new/blog/website-monitoring-opsview
[14:14] <ahxcjb> you can monitor apache internals also with it
[14:14] <ahxcjb> number of hits per second, threads, etc
[14:15] <kpettit> ah cool. thanks.
[14:21] <jsmith-argotec> says to run apt-get -f install to correct but that fails with dependency problem
[14:22] <jsmith-argotec> now I'm stuck halfway upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04
[14:22] <jsmith-argotec> "slapd depends on libperl5.10 (>= 5.10.1); however:
[14:22] <jsmith-argotec>   Package libperl5.10 is not installed."
[14:23] <jsmith-argotec> Depends: libperl5.10 (>= 5.10.1) but it is not installable
[14:23] <jsmith-argotec> libperl5.14 is installed...
[14:24] <xranby> thats odd.. since the latest slapd   depend on libperl5.14  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/slapd/2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4
[14:25] <xranby> jsmith-argotec: you can possibly try remove  slapd     then upgrade the rest of your system and finnaly install the latest slapd
[14:26] <jsmith-argotec> xranby: still have slapd 2.4.21-0ubuntu5.7 installed... because it couldn't upgrade it on first try of release-upgrade
[14:27] <jsmith-argotec> xranby: ok - no way to force the upgrade of slapd to clear up the issue?
[14:28] <xranby> jsmith-argotec: maybe.. might be someone here with a better suggestion than mine
[14:28] <jsmith-argotec> xranby: I don't mind removing and reinstalling... just not sure if I'll have reconfigure it after if I go that route (hope not)
[14:29] <xranby> jsmith-argotec: take a backup of your ldap config, thats the only tip i can give you
[14:30] <jsmith-argotec> xranby: ok thanks
[14:30] <fixxxermet> Hey guys, how I can use ubuntu-vm-builder (or virsh) to specify which bridged adapter the vm should use?
[15:10] <koolhead17> hi all
[15:42] <discopatrick> fresh install of ubuntu server 10.04 - what's the default state of the firewall?
[15:44] <discopatrick> i'm using an install given to me by a hosting provider, which on first load is opening port 22 and nothing else. i'm trying to figure out if that's the default, or something that the hosting provider have configured
[15:45] <patdk-wk> discopatrick, as the default state of ubuntu install, is not to have any firewall at all
[15:47] <discopatrick> patdk-wk: i guessed as much. so my hosting provider have added custom configuration.
[15:48] <patdk-wk> or just installed something that does that, like ufw
[15:48] <discopatrick> right.
[15:51] <oCean> ufw is installed by default, just disabled
[16:02] <lynxman> morning o/
[16:03] <NobodyHere> Greetings - I just upgraded a natty server to oneric and then precise, and now SSH is broken: "openssl version mistamtch. Built against 1000007f, you have 1000100f"
[16:03] <NobodyHere> I tried doing an apt reinstall of ssh, no go.
[16:05] <NobodyHere> same with re-installing libssl and openssl
[16:10] <discopatrick> so, seeing as my new server automatically boots with firewall on, my hosting provider must have written in a script to do this. unfortunately, they're not being very good so far at telling me where this script is... it's not too much to expect really... is it?
[16:10] <discopatrick> i'm currently looking through the contents of /etc/rc2.d
[16:13] <discopatrick> does anyone have an idea of where a default firewall configuration might be located?
[16:26] <med_> At UDS, what's the format of the IRC channels for the rooms?  I didn't see it on my badge.
[16:27] <frankban> hi hallyn, I am preparing a diff for bug 994752. I have build lxc 0.8.0~rc1 with my changes, and seen that the shared library (liblxc) is now under /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/lxc/. Is this an error in my build or should I assume the path will change in quantal? In the latter case, I should fix lxc-ip to reflect the change.
[16:29] <Pici> med_: Its all in the topic of #ubuntu-uds: http://paste.ubuntu.com/964790/
[16:30] <med_> Pici, thanks.
[16:30] <NobodyHere> unnnnnbelievable.  the precise upgrade failed - I can't get openssh to install because it has unresolved dependencies with libc6 versions and more
[16:31] <NobodyHere> it looks like I was half upgraded
[16:31] <NobodyHere> any ideas?
[16:31] <NobodyHere> is there anyone actually in this channel?
[16:32] <ogra_> many are, but many also are sitting at UDS in marks opening talk atm
[16:32] <ogra_> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/
[16:33] <ogra_> so be patient
[16:34] <med_> NobodyHere, how did you do the upgrade?  What version were you upgrading from?
[16:35] <NobodyHere> nevermind, I figured it out on my own.  I was able to use the dependency list in aptitude to install the missing packages...but I have no idea why, say, libc6 wasn't the right version.
[16:36] <NobodyHere> or why apt-get refused to do anything at all, claiming it couldn't download the package.
[16:36] <NobodyHere> the whole mess may have been caused by the hpn-ssh PPA we were using.
[16:36] <NobodyHere> I don't know.
[16:36] <NobodyHere> don't care.
[16:36] <NobodyHere> it's working.
[16:43] <philpem> Is there any way to force Cobbler/Orchestra to discard the cached ISO images and redownload them? I seem to have a Precise Pangolin beta mini-ISO from December which won't run the installer
[16:43] <philpem> I'm getting a "no kernel modules were found" error when the installer boots
[16:44] <philpem> Syslog: <12>May  7 16:29:05 anna[8269]: WARNING **: no packages matching running kernel 3.2.0-7-generic in archive
[16:44] <ogra_> use a more recent build
[16:45] <ogra_> the installer images are closely tied to the kernel version, use the final release, not something from december
[16:45] <philpem> um, yeah, I'd like to. EXCEPT: this is being installed from Orchestra.
[16:45] <philpem> which is why I asked: how do you make Orchestra ignore the fact it already has the ISOs, and force it to re-download mini.iso
[16:46] <philpem> and update all the PXE netboot images too
[16:46] <philpem> orchestra-import-isos just bails out because it already has the isos :(
[17:03] <philpem> ok, short answer: you can't. long answer: you can, but only if you can live with the fact you'll lose your entire Cobbler configuration
[17:09] <philpem> solution:   sudo rm -rf /var/lib/cobbler/isos/* /var/www/cobbler/ks_mirror/* ; for i in $(distro-info --supported); do for j in i386 x86_64; do sudo cobbler-ubuntu-import -v $i-$j; done; done
[17:40] <some1_2> Should MAAS work running on VirtualBox?
[17:41] <oal> I need a quick way to set up a simple mail server so that I can see/send mails. Either if they're sent for real, or if they're just stacked up in /var/mail or whatever. Any tips?
[17:41] <some1_2> It seems to install the MAAS server just fine, have that all set up according to docs, but when I try to add a MAAS node using installer as soon as I select to enlist the vm powers down
[17:42] <oal> The only thing I need is to be able to somehow see mail contents
[17:42] <hex20dec> So I'm officially desperate for help with my mail server, I need to setup SPF and secure it somehow. I will pay. Anyone?
[17:43] <some1_2> The master NAAS lists the nodes in the web interface, but the nodes won't start, and if I try to start them manually they have no OS installed
[18:17] <apetrescu> I feel stupid for asking this, but how do I add user accounts for the OpenStack Dashboard in 12.04? It won't take my normal user credentials. What does it auth against?
[18:17] <apetrescu> I can't log into it at all
[18:20] <HIGG5_BO5ON> Hey, guys! Can any of you help me with a problem I'm having with installing utorrent on ubuntu 11.10?
[18:58] <Delemas> Anyone else running check_mk on Ubuntu 12.04 out there? I'm trying to setup a server but I'm only getting content encoding errors from /check_mk/ in my browser...
[19:00] <aboSamoor> is maas ready for usage? what does maas-enlist mean? \
[19:33] <hallyn> frankban: hey - yeah the move to //usr/lib/x86*/lib is hurting me...  but yeah, lxc-ip should change in q to use the new location
[20:43] <cwillu_at_work> !info linux-generic
[20:53] <Delemas> Sweet fixed it. Never mind...
[20:56] <LMJ> hi
[20:56] <LMJ> kinda tricky question here : I have a domain foo.com, my local machines are configured in resolv.conf to search .foo.com and domain foo.com. I have a machin called netstation, ping netstation works, ping netstation.foo.com works also.  My PC try to find it in local, it can't, it says it doesn't not exist, is there a w
[20:56] <LMJ> ay to make this configuration resolving local first and if it doesn't find it, try public DNS ?
[21:07] <hallyn> stgraber: what was the lxc-ubuntu change you were saying you needed to make?  (some bug-fix)?
[21:08] <hallyn> oh i see it, nm, sorry
[21:20] <stgraber> hallyn: did you have a chance to poke Daviey to reschedule the LXC session
[21:33] <hallyn> stgraber: i couldn't find him, talked to Michelle.  It's now set for 9am fri
[21:33] <hallyn> should be locked
[21:33] <hallyn> stgraber: care to review a lxc debdiff?  it's gotten bigger than i intended as i keep finding little bugs
[21:45] <stgraber> hallyn: sure, can do a review
[21:46] <aboSamoor> can someone help me with maas? I would like to access the nodes, I can not find the credentials of the usernames and passwords!
[21:46] <hallyn> stgraber: thanks, it's http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxc.debdiff3   last set of tests is running but it finally seems good
[21:47] <hallyn> stgraber: if you think it's worth keeping the scripts dash instead of bash i'm fine with that, but it broke your macaddr fix to lxc-clone :)
[21:47] <hallyn> (or was that my fix?  maybe it was mine)
[21:48] <hallyn> (either way, it broke with switch to dash)
[21:53] <stgraber> hallyn: quick spot check looks good, I tend to prefer writting posix shell script when possible, but we'd have to run all of upstream through checkbashims and fix them if we want to use dash
[21:53] <stgraber> so for now, bash sounds safe
[21:53] <hex20dec> Hi, can someone please help me. I contacted my hosting company, but I don't really understand. http://pastebin.com/dajZV0TP
[21:54] <hallyn> stgraber: i guess this is worth mentioning at the friday session:  i agree switch to dash would be nice, maybe we should send the debian patch upstream?
[21:54] <hallyn> then we should be safe :)
[21:54] <hallyn> anyway, thanks, i'll push it then - ttyl
[21:55] <Resistance> hex20dec:  they're offering you a service to set up a mail sending relay, since google's blacklisted your cloud based IP
[21:55] <Resistance> hex20dec:  as for setting up a relay, that'd normally require an additional (secondary) machine, or routing all your emails through a separate smtp server
[21:55] <hex20dec> Resistance: Oh, I see.
[21:55] <Resistance> but i'm also not the most knowledgeable on that one, but that's the general gist of what they're saying
[21:56] <Resistance> (in more technical terms)
[21:56] <Resistance> they also tell you how to (a) register for their email sending relay system
[21:56] <Resistance> and (b) that you need to configure your system to send via that relay
[21:56]  * Resistance can't help you much more than that
[21:56] <Resistance> since there's not much other info there
[21:56] <Resistance> (you should probably read how to sign up for their service that they mentioned, as they tell you where to look)
[21:57] <hex20dec> Resistance: My biggest question is, how did I get black listed, meaning why? I didn't do anything wrong.
[21:57] <Resistance> hex20dec:  the cloud servers IP blocks are blacklisted/greylisted
[21:57] <Resistance> they say that
[21:57] <Resistance> "Cloud Server" IP blocks are normally blacklisted/greylisted
[21:58] <Resistance> at least, by Google they are
[21:58] <aboSamoor> can someone help me with maas?
[21:58] <hex20dec> Does that means that all of their IPs are blocked by Google by default?
[21:58] <Resistance> hex20dec:  for their cloud servers, yes
[21:58] <Resistance> thats probably why the offer a mail relay service
[21:58] <Resistance> which sits on a different IP (non-cloud, probably)
[21:59]  * Resistance isnt an expert on google, though, he's only interpreting what the rackspace people are saying
[21:59] <hex20dec> You think they did it on purpose to make me buy the relay thing?
[21:59] <Resistance> hex20dec:  i recommend you look into the service they told you to look at
[21:59] <Resistance> since its a free service
[21:59] <Resistance> (according to theM)
[21:59] <Resistance> as for Google blacklisting...
[21:59] <Resistance> that's at google's end
[21:59] <Resistance> not rackspace's
[21:59] <Resistance> so you cant make that comparison/relationship between the two
[22:01] <hex20dec> Any way to get the IP  whitelisted by Contacting google?
[22:01] <hex20dec> Would you know?
[22:02] <hex20dec> Resistance:
[22:02] <Resistance> hex20dec:  nope
[22:02] <Resistance> they rarely whitelist IPs, because they use reliable DNS blacklists or greylists in their spam filtering
[22:03] <Resistance> so you'd have to get a removal on those DNS blacklists, and its impossible to tell which one(s) they're using
[22:04] <Resistance> hex20dec:  see privmsg
[22:05] <elspuddy> hi i got a  byobu problem, each time i use it on my ubuntu server box it scrools each time the sats update, any one know how to stop this ?
[22:38] <JonEdney> Any word on when 12.04 will be available for openvz?
[23:06] <Destreyf> anyone got an instance of juju working on 12.04?
[23:08] <Destreyf> hmm
[23:10] <Resistance> Destreyf:  patience :P
[23:36] <med_> smoser, you're being pinged in the openstack charms in junior-ballroom-1
[23:37] <med_> perhaps you could pop-over
[23:37] <med_> I guess hallyn could be helpful as well.  (LXC, local charms, etc.)
[23:38] <aboSamoor> how can I install a package on a cluster of nodes running ubuntu?
[23:49] <Destreyf> like th5....
[23:49] <Destreyf> that*
[23:52] <Destreyf> when my nodes install they try to go to ubuntu-mirror.localdomain is this normal??
[23:52] <Destreyf> for their apt source


[04:36] <Takyoji> So apparently my poor brother has pretty much had it with his Vista laptop due to lack of performance, that he's had me assist him with choosing between certain HP laptop models (with Windows 7 obviously) which he bought at Best Buy today. I've setup the system (AMD 64-bit dual-core 2.4GHz processor, 4GB RAM, 500GB storage, etc) and it doesn't seem all that different from his original laptop.
[04:38] <Takyoji> And to additionally make his wife "happy", he would hand down his current laptop to her (which is several years newer). But she doesn't want his original laptop at all due to being slow, and apparently both of them have noticed her laptop (which was his first laptop, and currently runs Ubuntu 9.04) operates a lot faster than his original laptop at even tasks like simply opening a picture and so forth. xP
[04:39] <Takyoji> and while it seems as if he just wants her rid of Ubuntu or something, as if it's a plague or something, even though he himself dislikes his original laptop with Vista. xP
[04:40] <Takyoji> It'll be interesting to see how this all turns out...
[04:41] <Takyoji> Anyone know of a decent NAS?
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: sure, the one you build yourself.
[14:14] <h00k> Brittany(significant other)'s family has a new machine that is dualbooting Win7 and Karmic, after Windows Updates, it's overwriting part grub, I'm going to assume it has to do with Restore Points or something
[14:14] <h00k> :(
[14:14] <h00k> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/482757
[14:14] <ubot3`> Malone bug 482757 in grub2 "Grub loading. The symbol ' ' not found. Aborted. Press any key..." [Undecided,New]
[14:14] <h00k> It's really annoying to have to have them boot from a USB drive and reinstall grub that way.
[21:20] <mr_steve> I've got a new netbook coming.. *glee*
[21:20] <h00k> mr_steve: what one?
[21:20] <mr_steve> Acer Aspire One, AOD250-something
[21:21] <h00k> Ah, cool.
[21:21] <mr_steve> Yeah, I needed something with better battery than this old clunker for school. It's got the six-cell battery
[21:22] <mr_steve> Now I'll be testing out Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[21:48] <h00k> I use it on my EEE and I love it
[21:48] <mr_steve> i hear good things. A 1024x600 screen is definitely gonna take a little getting used to
[22:54] <d3jake> Yay! Minnesotan folk!
[22:55] <jenkinbr> :D
[23:03] <d3jake> Nice to know that there are those in the community who cam help me that would have half a chance to actually be able to meet....
[23:03] <d3jake> Anyhow.. to the task at hand.
[23:04] <d3jake> I run an older version of Kubuntu, simply because it works, and I don't want to mess with it, but this computer is a laptop and I've always had issues allowing a second monitor connect to it and allow me to duplicate my desktop to the second monitor or projector, or to add a second monitor.
[23:04] <d3jake> Any FAQs or tips to troubleshoot the issue?
[23:05] <jenkinbr> what version of kubuntu?
[23:06] <d3jake> Uhh.... I wish I remembered... I think there's some command to pull it up....
[23:09] <d3jake> I think... 6.10
[23:10] <d3jake> possibly 7.10
[23:11] <jenkinbr> d3jake: run this in a terminal window: "cat /etc/issue"
[23:13] <d3jake> My mistake: Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS
[23:13] <d3jake> But using KDE, of course.
[23:16] <d3jake> The laptop is a Compaq NC6000
[23:18] <jenkinbr> aw, cool :)
[23:18] <jenkinbr> lemmi look
[23:18] <d3jake> Cool? O.o
[23:19] <jenkinbr> it's still supported, so that's good :)
[23:19] <d3jake> Ohh, that's what the LTS means, right?
[23:37] <jenkinbr> d3jake, yep
[23:37] <jenkinbr> LTS = Long Term Support
[23:39] <d3jake> Nice!
[23:43] <jenkinbr> d3jake, my googleing isn't turning much up
[23:43] <d3jake> That's the problem... I've encountered the same problem.
[23:44] <d3jake> This coming semester it may come in handy that I be able to connect my laptop to a projector, but I really don't want to boot into Windows to do that if I can help it...
[23:44] <jenkinbr> i wouldn't either
[23:46] <d3jake> On campus they have us install a service on Windows before they'll let us access the internet... The annoyign part is that they want our Windows completely updated otherwise we're not allowed to connect :/
[23:49] <jenkinbr> campus is lame :/
[23:49] <jenkinbr> windows only, most of the time :(
[23:49] <jenkinbr> On the bright side, my local community college sysadmins run linux :)
[23:50] <d3jake> hehe
[23:50] <d3jake> Which college(s)?
[23:53] <d3jake> Century? MCTC? North Hennepin?


[08:17] <dholbach> good morning
[09:25] <dholbach> czajkowski: which Mark was the Mark in the ngo team notes?
[09:26] <czajkowski> Mark A. Hershberger
[09:27] <dholbach> thanks
[09:27] <czajkowski> no bother
[09:28] <dholbach> czajkowski: did the guy who gave the talk later on give you the list of groups of websites and list of organisations?
[09:28] <czajkowski> dholbach: Andrew, nope he's just sent me an email asking for the gobby doc as he couldn't find it
[09:28] <czajkowski> dholbach: shall poke him about that
[09:29] <dholbach> ok, so I'll assign the work item to you
[09:29] <dholbach> ROCK :)
[09:30] <czajkowski> grand :)
[13:31] <txwikinger> Morning
[13:31] <Pendulum> hiya
[13:31] <txwikinger> hi Pendulum
[13:32] <czajkowski> aloha
[13:32] <txwikinger> hi laura
[13:32] <highvoltage> good... afternoon! everybody!
[13:33] <czajkowski> highvoltage: missed you!
[13:33] <highvoltage> I should be there next time at least :)
[13:33] <czajkowski> excellen
[13:33] <czajkowski> highvoltage: so do you have your Canadian Visa yet?
[13:34] <highvoltage> czajkowski: I begged them more than month ago to send me my passport so long so that I can at least go to the uds... until today I got absolutely no response back from the Canadian Embassy
[13:34] <czajkowski> mate of mine is living over there and has her application returned 4 times, they are driving her somewhat more insane than she already was
[13:35] <highvoltage> czajkowski: I mailed them by registerd post today telling them that I have missed the conference and that they don't need to send it back anymore until the visa application is approved... hopefully that won't take too much longer
[13:36] <highvoltage> czajkowski: there was a South African recently who got assylum in Canada because he said that all the black people in South Africa wants to kill all the white people... and he actually got assylum
[13:37] <highvoltage> since then a lot of crazies have been applying for all kinds of canadian visas... I think that's messing it up for people like me who just want to go over for 2-3 months
[13:37] <txwikinger> highvoltage: Visa process is always a mess
[13:38]  * txwikinger has gone through too many of those
[13:38] <txwikinger> However the Canadian High Commission was very good when we got our immigration visas
[13:43] <highvoltage> txwikinger: yeah I guess it's a bit of a gamble. sometimes you'll have a great experience and other times not, and it might just be luck of the draw what kind of service you get
[13:44] <txwikinger> highvoltage: true
[13:45] <txwikinger> highvoltage: Which area of Canada do you want to visit?
[13:45] <highvoltage> txwikinger: Quebec
[13:45] <txwikinger> Ah cool


[06:00] <mlankhorst> raof ping?
[06:00] <RAOF> raof pong?
[06:01] <mlankhorst> piglit no longer works nicely on my system and seems to be hanging on nouveau, which makes mre verification for mesa 9.0.3 hard
[06:02] <mlankhorst> however there have been 0 nouveau related commits between 9.0.2 and 9.0.3, so is it ok if i skip piglit for nouveau?
[06:02] <RAOF> Uuuuum.
[06:02] <RAOF> Can we get someone else to try piglitting nouveau?
[06:03] <mlankhorst> doubtful
[06:04] <RAOF> I'm not entirely sure “our test suite no longer runs on $HARDWARE, but I'm pretty sure that's an unrelated failure” is a good standard for MRE :)
[06:05] <mlankhorst> RAOF: it no longer runs on 9.0.2 either :P
[07:10] <RAOF> mlankhorst: You're not filling me with confidence :)
[07:11] <mlankhorst> RAOF: I'm going to need a time machine for this one, from the dmesg output it feels like I'm hitting a kernel regression
[07:11]  * RAOF <shudders>
[07:11] <mlankhorst> I'm running with some crack kernel though
[07:12] <RAOF> Maybe running piglit on the stack that we're trying to test would be appropriate? ☺
[07:12] <tjaalton> yeah.. :)
[07:12] <mlankhorst> but but hybriddddd
[07:13]  * mlankhorst tries
[08:12] <mlankhorst> g
[08:12] <mlankhorst> [  137.761860] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: PFIFO_CACHE_ERROR - Ch 4/3 Mthd 0x1b04 Data 0x20211000
[08:12] <mlankhorst> [  137.761949] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Unexpected pageflip in channel 4.
[08:12] <mlankhorst> ugh
[08:32] <mlankhorst> removing parallelism seems to help slightly
[08:35] <mlankhorst> probably that's what I did before
[08:41] <mlankhorst> yep without running in parallel, it's fine
[08:50] <mlankhorst> RAOF: ^ solved, doing nouveau tests again now
[18:14] <bjsnider> any major borkage on intel/raring at the moment?
[18:14] <bjsnider> snb specifically
[18:21] <bryce> bjsnider, tghe usual gpu hangs and such - http://www.bryceharrington.org/Arsenal/ubuntu-x-swat/Reports/totals-raring-workqueue.svg
[18:27] <bjsnider> there's a guy over in the other channel having a problem. i'll send him here if he rejoins
[20:01] <tjaalton> bjsnider: make sure he updates to kernel -13.23 first
[20:01] <tjaalton> a couple of stable commits reverted in that one compared to .22
[20:02] <tjaalton> that caused issues
[20:04] <tjaalton> aka http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2013-March/025767.html