[12:43] <dystopianray> robdeman: do you see anything suspicious though?
[12:44] <robdeman> dystopianray: haha I dont knw.. not an expert.. where is pastebin?
[12:44] <dystopianray> !pastebin
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:44] <Nom-> root            (hd2,2)
[12:45] <Nom-> It actually (hd0,2) :(
[12:45] <Nom-> So I just have to edit it manually ?
[12:45] <pramso> hallo
[12:45] <rasputnik> dystopianray: would you usually see something in dmseg? wouldn't think so if the system is locked
[12:45] <robdeman> dystopianray: ok -- pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11634/
[12:45] <marcagio> alright 2nd try since I think no one read my issue : I changed the resolution for 800X600 to fit on my TV... when I came back to widescreen (1280x800) my icons were all messed up in the top menu bar and the trashcan is now laying in the middle of the bottom bar and cannot be moved...
[12:46] <dystopianray> rasputnik: it's not a lock up, it's just periodic momentary pauses
[12:47] <pramso> does anybody know much about s3 graphics?
[12:47] <rasputnik> dystopianray: yes, but that isn't going to be logged anywhere
[12:47] <wols_> ask your real questiob pramso
[12:47] <dystopianray> rasputnik: it might be caused by something that is being logged
[12:48] <robdeman> dystopianray: have you guys seen this 'momentary pauses' issue before?
[12:48] <dystopianray> robdeman: not that I can recall
[12:48] <marcagio> prasmo, I know theyr support sucks
[12:48] <dystopianray> robdeman: you're using the ata_piix driver, does your bios allow you to turn on AHCI support for your ata controller?
[12:48] <rasputnik> dystopianray: i guess. i've been wishing it would for about eight years though :)
[12:49] <dystopianray> rasputnik: you have momentary pause problems too?
[12:49] <pramso> I want to change TV-out to PAL from NTSC, but the command "s3switch PAL" will not work! Does anybody know why?
[12:49] <rasputnik> robdeman: yeah now and then. it's very hard to track that sort of thing down
[12:49] <robdeman> dystopianray: AHCI support for ATA? ok let me check that I will be back in a minute
[12:49] <robdeman> rasputnik: yeah.. I was afraid of that
[12:49] <rasputnik> dystopianray: not at the moment, but i've had several (shitty dell) servers that have done things like that before
[12:49] <robdeman> let me check the AHCI support
[12:50] <dystopianray> robdeman: it's usually a bios option that you need to turn on, becuase windows doesn't support AHCI properly
[12:51] <AnAnt> !ldap
[12:51] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[12:53] <Nom-> blah, anyone got any experience using dmraid?  I trying to configure a new RAID array (nForce4 chipset)
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> okay folks
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> i need instructions on how to ijnstall 6.10 on an intel mac... specifically dual booting osx and ubuntu
[12:53] <shadeofgrey> on the 15" macbookpro
[12:54] <shadeofgrey> but before we even go there - do the ati display drivers still blow rancid moose balls or what?
[12:54] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: yes, ati still suck
[12:54] <Seph2409> shadeofgrey, have you partitioned?
[12:54] <shadeofgrey> so theres no point then  i take it?
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> if its going to completely blow graphically i guess theres no point in suffering through the install process no?
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> whats the best setup for ubuntu installs
[12:55] <Nom-> shadeofgrey: I dont know about mac, but I was able to use it on Windows no problems...
[12:55] <shadeofgrey> nvidia still rules the roost?
[12:55] <rasputnik> shadeofgrey: have you thought of parallels? it's like 40 pounds.
[12:55] <Seph2409> Well Ubuntu is running very nicely on my old G3 iMac
[12:55] <Nom-> ie. Ive run Windows + ATI no problem
[12:55] <Nom-> And Linux + ATI (without gaming) no problem
[12:55] <Seph2409> I would also suggest Parallels
[12:56] <shadeofgrey> what does parallels accomplish?
[12:56] <shadeofgrey> okay wait
[12:56] <shadeofgrey> hold it
[12:56] <Seph2409> It's virtualization software
[12:56] <Seph2409> It makes virtual hard drives which are basically just disk images and installs OSes onto them
[12:56] <Seph2409> So you don't need to partition
[12:57] <Seph2409> And you can boot up another OS within Mac OS and run both at the same time
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> i should give you more backstory.  im VERY VERY VERY physically handicapped.  i type one handed with 4 fingers - http://youtube.com/watch?v=xL6svX577Bw for those of you that want to see it.  im interested in running vista so i can run dragon naturally speaking
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> because my typing fiungers are dying
[12:57] <shadeofgrey> but i really want to get back into ubuntu because ubuntu is a gold mine
[12:58] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: linux has no speech recognition software
[12:58] <shadeofgrey> you wouldnt believe how many college students ive got that want to pay me $300 each to move from win to ubuntu
[12:58] <shadeofgrey> so
[12:58] <spikeb> it doesn't?
[12:58] <Seph2409> You could use iListen for Mac
[12:58] <shadeofgrey> its definately in my best interest to start running ubuntu in a permanent dualboot config
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> iliosten blows
[12:59] <edmondt> it would be cool if we can run MAC apps
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> it cant touch DNSpro
[12:59] <Seph2409> Yes, I know
[12:59] <spikeb> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Speech-Recognition-HOWTO/index.html
[12:59] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: you charge $300 to install ubuntu??
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> no
[12:59] <shadeofgrey> thats what i was offered
[12:59] <Seph2409> DNS is just for Windows though, you want to use it in Linux through Wine?
[01:00] <fabiim> chm ?
[01:00] <dystopianray> DNS is only for windows? huh?
[01:00] <shadeofgrey> yes';
[01:00] <Zewey> shadeofgrey: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/13/1445211
[01:00] <dystopianray> oh!, dragon natural speaking :S
[01:00] <dystopianray> I thought the other DNS was meant
[01:01] <Seph2409> :D Sorry
[01:01] <dystopianray> i very much doubt that dragon naturally speaking can be used in wine
[01:01] <dystopianray> I don't think wine apps can communicate with linux apps
[01:01] <Seph2409> That's a point
[01:01] <dystopianray> and dns has lots of application specific hooks, like for explorer.exe
[01:02] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: so you are this chris ryan guy?
[01:02] <shadeofgrey> yeah
[01:02] <shadeofgrey> thats me
[01:03] <Seph2409> So you want to use DNS inside Ubuntu? I don't think you can.
[01:03] <shadeofgrey> ive seen other gimps (disabled folks) mention - mostly paralysis victims (amazingly one of them actually uses DNSpro to wwrite C++ source code because hes paralyzed from the neck down
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> anyway
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> he runs macosx and ubuntu and windows all on a macpro
[01:04] <dystopianray> i believe there are speech recognition apps for linux, but all proprietry and costly
[01:04] <Seph2409> So what do you want to run DNS in?
[01:04] <shadeofgrey> and says that through parallels that DNSpro actually runs faster on the quadcore mac than it doerss on a xps dell
[01:05] <Seph2409> Then you should install Windows onto your Mac with Parallels
[01:05] <shadeofgrey> but he has to have 8gig of ram to make all that shit work right
[01:05] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: you didn't mention linux in that news story :(
[01:05] <Nullbyte> Do any of you guys know how I speed up ripping CDs a bit? This is kind of horrible.
[01:05] <pramso> I want to change TV-out to PAL from NTSC, but the command "s3switch PAL" will not work! Does anybody know  why? Please help!
[01:06] <Nom-> hmmm...ok any suggestions?  dmraid is installed, it finds my nvidia controller, but its not creating the entries in /dev ?
[01:06] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: buy a faster cdrom, or check that DMA is enabled
[01:06] <shadeofgrey> dystopianray, thats because the bitch that interviewed me chopped 2 minutes of the interview where i gave shoutouts to the ubuntu developers and the makers of openogffice
[01:06] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: ah, stupid media
[01:06] <shadeofgrey> anywaay
[01:06] <Nullbyte> Dystopianray: DMA is enabled, but it still rips at 1x or so
[01:06] <mfd> shadeofgrey: What interview was this?
[01:06] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: is it ripping digitally?
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> the deal breaker for me is whether or not running ubuntu on macpro's is feasible and as easy as installing ion intel pc's
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=xL6svX577Bw
[01:07] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: I have no idea, heh
[01:07] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: is it an intel mac pro?
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> yes
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> well it will be
[01:07] <Seph2409> I don't understand what you want to achieve? Running Ubuntu, running DNSpro or both?
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> i havbe an amazing credit score... 830 out of 850
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> I want to run macosx, Windows Vista, and ubuntu all on the same machine
[01:08] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: I'm pretty sure you can install linux on those, both with and without bootcamp and it works fine
[01:08] <Seph2409> Then make three partitions in Disk Utility of the sizes you want
[01:08] <Nullbyte> More than three
[01:08] <Seph2409> Why's that?
[01:09] <dystopianray> you need a swap partition
[01:09] <Nullbyte> Exactly
[01:09] <Seph2409> Ooh, I'm out of my depth, listen to these guys. I'll shut up now.
[01:09] <dystopianray> well, you don't really
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> it would cost me about 10 granbd in hardware to do it all very quickly but idont mind the cost as lolng as three things are possible 1.) i xcan still run mac, and riun windows on mac, which is far safer than running vista on a PC, and run ubuntu on my macpro so i can keep up with ubuntuj and make a small fortune transitionming pc college students to ubuntu so they arent victims of windsows worms every sejmester
[01:09] <dystopianray> you could use a swap file
[01:09] <dystopianray> but the installer doesn't handle that case
[01:10] <marcagio> 3rd try, I think no one reads my issue : I changed the resolution for 800X600 to fit on my TV... when I came back to widescreen (1280x800) my icons were all messed up in the top menu bar and the trashcan is now laying in the middle of the bottom bar and cannot be moved...
[01:10] <virgule> hi..i use ubuntu 6.10 and i havean ati mobilty radeon x1400 ..how can i install it?
[01:10] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: it should be possible to run all three without issue
[01:10] <Nullbyte> !ati | virgule
[01:10] <ubotu> virgule: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:11] <ahmet_> Bonjour, SVP je recherche une version de linux pour une viellie machine ( HP Pavillion 6345, Processeur AMD-K6, 32 Mo de memoire SDRAM, DD d'une capacite de 3,2 Go ) ?
[01:11] <shadeofgrey> so the seconmd wuestion is...  if running ubuntu and windows and macosx all on a macpro is borderlkine insanity inducing then should i just say fuck it and build  a PC god box?
[01:11] <Nullbyte> !fr | ahmet_
[01:11] <ubotu> ahmet_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:11] <marcagio> ahmet_ Xubuntu
[01:11] <Nom-> So noone has experience getting NRAID going? :/
[01:11] <Nom-> NVRAID even
[01:11] <rickympl> !fesity
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fesity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <rickympl> !feisty
[01:11] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:11] <shadeofgrey> because 10k would buy me a SWEET voodoopc machine
[01:12] <shadeofgrey> the thinmg i dont like is the 4 gig of ram limit
[01:12] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: do you want to run them simultaneously in a vm of some kind? or just triple-boot?
[01:12] <Seph2409> Running it on the Mac shouldn't be a problem
[01:12] <shadeofgrey> no..  hell no.  just triple boot
[01:12] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: get a 64-bit capable computer, then you can use as much ram as you want
[01:12] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: triple-boot is not insane at all, pretty standard
[01:12] <mfd> shadeofgrey: You're Chris Ryan?
[01:12] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  yes!
[01:13] <Seph2409> As long as you have a nice big hard drive then there's no reason not to triple-boott on the Mac
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> i really wish i could findsomeplace that would help me defer the cost of a mac because of my handivcapp and my need for a really fast machine for diuvctation
[01:13] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: if you want to use >4GB of RAM, then use 64-bit vista and 64-bit ubuntu, and use osx leopard when it comes out
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> i only make $560 a month
[01:13] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Typing with one hand is pretty ereet
[01:13] <Seph2409> I'm sure you could email apple
[01:13] <mfd> I'd like to code one handed
[01:13] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: write a letter to apple, maybe they'll help you out
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> i did
[01:13] <Seph2409> No joy?
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> they told me they diont give harsdware orsoftware away to anybody
[01:13] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Buy a refurbished macbook
[01:13] <mfd> dystopianray: :\
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> i HAVE a 15" macbookpro
[01:13] <pramso> Could anybody recommend a channel that is specialized on graphic problems?
[01:13] <shadeofgrey> but its a coree duo
[01:14] <shadeofgrey> not a core2duo
[01:14] <mfd> shadeofgrey: hahaha, loser.
[01:14] <shadeofgrey> which pisses me off because the core2s started shipping 6 weeks after ibought mine
[01:14] <mfd> I'm getting a black macbook intel core 2 duo.
[01:14] <mfd> You should have waited for a few months man.
[01:14] <mfd> Yeah
[01:14] <kazaly> woohoo for you!
[01:14] <marcagio> mfd respect man... wtf are you doin' callin ppl losers?
[01:14] <mfd> kazaly: Hi douche :)
[01:15] <mfd> marcagio: I was jesting.
[01:15] <marcagio> oh
[01:15] <xipietotec> shadeofgrey: the actor or the SAS guy? =)
[01:15] <shadeofgrey> but see thats always how it goies... i waited as long as i possibly could... i transitioned from a pentium 3 with 384 megs of ram and an nvidiaII card
[01:15] <shadeofgrey> which cost me $2700 when i bought it brand new from dell on credit
[01:15] <highneko> How can I get a python script with gui to execute when ubuntu starts up? I tried -> System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs -> then adding the name like "testing", which is a symbolic link to "~/.testing/test.py". When starting the script never gets run. Any ideas?
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> this is goingto sound stupid but my dream is to be a professional blogger and exclusively online based novelist
[01:16] <xipietotec> oh oh, quite different
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> thats why i need the dictation software
[01:16] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Like Robert Spencer?
[01:16] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: why do you need core 2 duo?
[01:16] <shadeofgrey> because writing 90,000 words onehanded is very painful
[01:17] <virgule> tnx
[01:17] <mfd> So a core2duo would make things better?
[01:17] <shadeofgrey> it takes serious balls to     type onehaned anyway.  it took me 12 years toget as fast as i am now
[01:17] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows if there's a program like Speedfan for linux?
[01:17] <shadeofgrey> if i take 4 or 5 painkillers at a time i vcan cruise at a top speed of 62wpm
[01:17] <mfd> shadeofgrey: lol, what's your blog link?
[01:17] <Zaggynl> I tried searching through /proc, but nothing of use
[01:17] <xipietotec> shadeofgrey: have you seen frogpad?
[01:17] <Zaggynl> acpitools didn't help either
[01:17] <xipietotec> It's a 1 handed keyboard
[01:17] <robdeman> rasputnik: ok I did the AHCPI thing, desg is pasted again here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11641/
[01:18] <phaethon_> anino>?
[01:18] <mfd> Hmm I can type 200wpm.
[01:18] <shadeofgrey> yes i have seen frog pad
[01:18] <robdeman> dystopianray: oops sorry that was for you -> ACPI thing done see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11641/
[01:18] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  yeah!  you ghave ten fingers!  i only have four that work
[01:18] <dystopianray> robdeman: AHCI?
[01:18] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Yeah, well.. You're still pretty elite
[01:18] <mfd> My mother can't type 40wpm with 10 fingers
[01:19] <robdeman> dystopianray: ehrm now wait a second AHCI it is right
[01:19] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  christopher-ryan.net is my personal which is nothing right now -- www.thetruthdirective.com is my political commentary site
[01:19] <xipietotec> shadeofgrey: I have a friend who's in a similar boat, she has to use windows, but she uses cygwin on top of it, and has some other tools too, she's a unix/linux wiz, completely blind
[01:19] <dystopianray> robdeman: AHCI is what I mentioned, not ACPI
[01:19] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Lol, ok
[01:20] <shadeofgrey> but political commentary from the USA perspective is so goddamned depressing these days i havent kept up with it
[01:20] <shadeofgrey> im almost 4 weeks behind
[01:20] <JuJuBee> I wish to create  a folder called /home/DropBox and allow students to drop files into it, but not cd into, delete from, ls either.  I have a group called users and all my students are a member of users.  What perms do I put on the folder so they can drop files into it?
[01:20] <robdeman> dystopianray: lemme double check
[01:20] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Do you go to #politics
[01:20] <shadeofgrey> but i HAVE to get dragon running before i can write anything at high speed
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> i think it will be easier when leopard deploys
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> because parallels and bootcamp are supposed  to be standfardby then
[01:21] <mfd> It's coming out next month.
[01:21] <dystopianray> JuJuBee: I think if you give it nothing but write permissino it'll work as you want
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> but theres rumors ill havbe to buy a copy of windows ultimate to get virtualization on Vista
[01:21] <PirateHead> What is? Feisty?
[01:21] <shadeofgrey> no - leopoard
[01:21] <PirateHead> Ah. Leopoard. x.x
[01:22] <shadeofgrey> thats my big struggling point
[01:22] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: if you want to virtualize vista you'll need vista ultimate, but there is nothing stopping you from virtualising other OSs on any vista version, afaik
[01:22] <mfd> PirateHead: OSX.
[01:22] <mfd> Apple. PirateHead.
[01:22] <JuJuBee> Thanks dystopianray
[01:22] <shadeofgrey> i cant decide whether its best to go highend mac or highend pc
[01:22] <mfd> I'm going to run Vista/OSX/Ubuntu on my macbook when it comes.
[01:22] <mfd> It'll be like w04h
[01:22] <dystopianray> JuJuBee: be sure to test it though
[01:22] <PirateHead> mfd: I know how it works. Apple names its OSX releases after big cats. I'm waiting for OSX Tabby to switch over, though.
[01:22] <shadeofgrey> i KNOW i can get DNSpro working on windoiws no problem
[01:22] <JuJuBee> I will
[01:23] <shadeofgrey> but the instructions for mac are so complicated
[01:23] <laskin1> dystopianray How to switch gnome to kde
[01:23] <ferronica> from where i can download Theme for ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake.
[01:23] <dystopianray> laskin1: you want to install kde?
[01:23] <mfd> PirateHead: I prefer OSX names to ubuntu names.
[01:23] <laskin1> installed
[01:23] <shadeofgrey> because mac stuff is so muvh more expoensive
[01:23] <mfd> Feisty Fawn
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> but its by far the nicest machine ive ever owned
[01:24] <PirateHead> laskin1: do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and it will enable KDE.
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> i spent $675 and bought a 24" dell flatscreen to hook it to and now my setup rules
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> the only thing  i havent upgraded is the internal dfrive to 7200
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> i maxed out the ram the day i bought the machine
[01:24] <Nom-> bleh
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> got the ram from other world computing
[01:24] <shadeofgrey> they rule
[01:25] <Nom-> Where did the X64 specific kernels go? :(
[01:25] <mfd> shadeofgrey: This is an ubuntu help channel.
[01:25] <JosefK> JuJuBee, you need to 'chown root:users /home/DropBox; chmod 330 /home/DropBox'
[01:25] <ThomasZ> I'm running kubuntu-edgy with libc 2.4-1ubuntu12.3   I'm wondering if there are known problems since my own software started to crash in things like malloc() (according to gdb)
[01:25] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: why do you need such high performance?
[01:25] <mfd> Enough blogging in irc.
[01:25] <laskin1> i have KDE  but how to switch to gnome
[01:25] <mfd> laskin1: sudo apt-get install gnome
[01:25] <dystopianray> laskin1: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:25] <shadeofgrey> dys:  because Dragon Naturally speaking pro has a HUGE footprint
[01:25] <IdleOne> laskin1, sudo apt-get instll ubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <mfd> Toast: You go to #phrack?
[01:25] <defrysk> laskin1, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop gdm
[01:25] <dystopianray> laskin1: oh sorry, you want to siwtch too gnome
[01:25] <mjr> laskin1, ubuntu-desktop is the correct one of the above :]
[01:25] <PirateHead> laskin1: to enable Gnome, do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[01:26] <mfd> :o Yeah, ubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <mfd> & gdm
[01:26] <defrysk> laskin1, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:26] <robdeman> dystopianray: there is no setting that deals with AHCI
[01:26] <defrysk> laskin1, then set it to gdm
[01:26] <dystopianray> robdeman: ok then
[01:26] <dystopianray> robdeman: I don't know what else could be causing your problem then
[01:26] <defrysk> laskin1, then restart x and set session in gdm to gnome
[01:26] <dystopianray> robdeman: maybe try other distros, operating systems, version of ubuntu, etc.. to see if the same problem exists
[01:27] <virgule> ...trying to install ati..after update i got this eror E: Couldn't find package xorg-driver-fgrlx
[01:27] <rambo3> mm e17 update.
[01:27] <defrysk> laskin1, then sudo apt-get remove kubuntu desktop
[01:27] <defrysk> laskin1, then sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:27] <laskin1> session can choose kde and gnome?
[01:27] <defrysk> laskin1, then sudo apt-get remove kdm
[01:27] <robdeman> dystopianray: really, should I try Fedora then?
[01:27] <shadeofgrey> no
[01:27] <robdeman> dystopianray: why is Ubuntu depending on AHCI ?
[01:27] <shadeofgrey> fedora blows
[01:28] <laskin1> i need both
[01:28] <shadeofgrey> its a ridiculous resource hog
[01:28] <dystopianray> robdeman: it isn't.. it was just a suggestion of mine, but you don't have it, so forget I mentioned it
[01:28] <rambo3> we
[01:28] <PirateHead> shadeofgrey: fedora isn't so bad. Perhaps a bit heavy, yeah, but many GNOME desktops are!
[01:28] <defrysk> laskin1, then do not remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <tuqann> hi, need help with setting up a straight-forward ether LAN connection, unproxied
[01:28] <dystopianray> robdeman: it might be useful to try fedora, or one of the feisty releases, or something else, just to see if the pause problem still exists
[01:29] <mfd> I tried fedora out.
[01:29] <PirateHead> tuqann: 1) find a network cable. 2) plug one end into your router. 3) plug the other end into your machine. 4) enjoy interwebs.
[01:29] <mfd> It couldn't recognize my brodacom ethernet card.
[01:29] <mfd> So I dropped it.
[01:29] <dystopianray> mfd: b44?
[01:29] <tuqann> haahaa, I wish it was that easy, I'm running Edgy (6.10) and I selected wireless as my main connection
[01:29] <mfd> dystopianray: Yes.
[01:29] <laskin1> have a easy way to do it?  like a command switch to gnome   and startx
[01:30] <tuqann> my wireless adapter that is, and now I can't seem to get internet running with the LAN cable
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> is beryl a viable option for ubuntu users yet or no?
[01:30] <mfd> Is there a patch?
[01:30] <defrysk> laskin1, in your login manager you can switch your session
[01:30] <mfd> shadeofgrey: It is.
[01:30] <rambo3> tuqann, just remove auto from wireless in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:30] <mfd> Do you 'run' ubuntu, shadeofgrey
[01:30] <dystopianray> tuqann: plug in the cable and run $ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> it looks  cool as hell
[01:30] <defrysk> laskin1, from gnome > kde and vice versa
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  not since moving to mac no
[01:30] <robdeman> dystopianray: I think we had Ubuntu before on this machine, but then it was using 2x 120GB drives. We replaced them with 2x 500GB and reinstalled Ubuntu. Maybe this is part of the problem?
[01:30] <laskin1> text mod?
[01:30] <dystopianray> tuqann: if you have dhcp it should 'just work'
[01:30] <PirateHead> tuqann: try what rambo3 suggests, or try downloading the gnome-network-manager and asking it to configure your ether LAN for you.
[01:30] <mfd> shadeofgrey: Yeah, it's grand.
[01:30] <dystopianray> robdeman: hrrm, maybe
[01:30] <mfd> Not a resource hogger either.
[01:31] <mfd> shadeofgrey: You can run ubuntu on your macbook friend.
[01:31] <tuqann> yes
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> dystopianray, do you think you could talk me through how to install ubuntu on my macbookpro?
[01:31] <spikeb> i used to run ubuntu on my ibook before it died
[01:31] <tuqann> but I don't have internet on ubuntu to download the gnome-network-manager online
[01:31] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: well, I can assist, I don't have a mac though so I have no experience
[01:31] <Stormx2> Hey folks. Is there any way I can add a certain server cetificate as trusted globally? davfs says it can't be, but it is for my school...
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> mfd: do you think you could talk me through how to install ubuntu on my macbookpro?
[01:31] <dystopianray> shadeofgrey: if you look on the forums, or in the wiki, there are probably guides on doing it, I don't know how it differs from a normal install
[01:31] <rambo3> tuqann, bring down wireless , and start LAN
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> yeah
[01:31] <tuqann> I don't want to keep switching between Vista and Ubuntu, so I just want to get all the info I think I need in one go
[01:31] <PirateHead> tuqann: that might be a problem. Try rambo3's suggeswtion: remove auto from wireless in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:32] <tuqann> I'm paying for this connection by the hour :P
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> unfiortunately the existing guides are ridiculously complicated
[01:32] <laskin1> dystopianray you earn salary from here?
[01:32] <robdeman> dystopianray: Im using this machine, maybe you can tell me something about it wheter it should run Ubuntu or not? http://tyan.com/support_download_manuals.aspx?model=B.GS12B5103
[01:32] <mfd> shadeofgrey: I haven't installed it on a mbp. But there are installation manuals.
[01:32] <rambo3> tuqann, sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup eth0
[01:32] <tuqann> alright, bringdown wireless, I'm assuming ifconfig wlan0 down?
[01:32] <dystopianray> laskin1: umm no, i'm just 'some guy'
[01:32] <mfd> Check the Gentoo installer guide for mbp.
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> mfd:  could you find me a url to the best one?
[01:32] <dystopianray> robdeman: I have no idea, sorry
[01:32] <ferronica> how to burn DVD ripped Video???
[01:32] <robdeman> dystopianray:ok thanks anyway buddy :)
[01:32] <tuqann> ahhh, okay, I'll give that a shot, I had pages scrapbooked with all the toturials but Vista ate them up when I installed it :P
[01:32] <mfd> check the gentoo wiki
[01:33] <tuqann> brb
[01:33] <dystopianray> ferronica: you have *.vob files?
[01:33] <ferronica> which software should i use???
[01:33] <laskin1> always see you hmm  8-)
[01:33] <dystopianray> laskin1: only been using ubuntu for a week or two
[01:33] <laskin1> a week
[01:33] <ferronica> dystopianray: i think NO
[01:33] <dystopianray> ferronica: what do you have that you want to burn?
[01:34] <dystopianray> laskin1: I used gentoo for over 2 years previously
[01:34] <rambo3> what you want a cookie?
[01:34] <laskin1> i can't upgrade to 7.04   i have a problem
[01:34] <Chai_Sangeen> hello
[01:34] <mfd> laskin1: poor you
[01:34] <Nom-> am i going mad, or is there no x64 kernel available in edgy ?
[01:34] <ferronica> dystopianray: i have downloded one movie from www.demonoid.com which is DVD Rip now how to burn it
[01:34] <Seveas> Nom-, you're going mad
[01:35] <shadeofgrey> okay i got my answer
[01:35] <dystopianray> ferronica: you want to burn it as a dvd? or just burn the file onto a dvd?
[01:35] <Nom-> Seveas: Its not showing up in Synaptic ?
[01:35] <shadeofgrey> installing on mac with nothing but the ubuntu install CD will work when Feisty is no longer beta
[01:35] <ferronica> dystopianray: should i burn DATA CD
[01:35] <dystopianray> ferronica: is it a dvdrip that has been reencoded into another format, or is it an .iso image?
[01:35] <Seveas> Nom-, then you're on a 32bit system
[01:36] <laskin1> dystopianray    why you speak so quickly?   =-O
[01:36] <ferronica> dystopianray: You tell me what to do with these type of file
[01:36] <Nom-> No, im not...I think I got the bloody 32-bit installer though :(
[01:36] <dystopianray> laskin1: what?
[01:36] <Chai_Sangeen> i just reinstalled edgy on my macbook but for some reason the trackpad is extremely slow it almost not usable, i also experienced the same when booting into the live cd... i never used to have this prob on my previous install
[01:36] <Seveas> Nom-, then you're on a 32bit system :)
[01:36] <Nom-> Damnit, you need to get the 64-bit installer? *cry*
[01:36] <dystopianray> ferronica: what is the type of file? I don't know whether you have an iso, an avi, vobs or what...
[01:36] <laskin1> why you can ask all guys
[01:36] <laskin1> question
[01:36] <Seveas> Nom-, indeed
[01:36] <ferronica> dystopianray: its .avi
[01:36] <rambo3> !synaptics
[01:36] <Nom-> What a PITA
[01:36] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:37] <Nom-> Thanks, Seveas
[01:37] <dystopianray> laskin1: I don't know what you mean
[01:37] <mfd> "Do you need the 64bit installer"
[01:37] <IdleOne> dystopianray, he is wondering how come you can type so fast
[01:37] <mfd> Man.
[01:37] <dystopianray> ferronica: do you want to make a dvd movie out of it? one that you can play in a dvd player?
[01:37] <dystopianray> IdleOne: :S becuase I have been using computers for years
[01:37] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen read what ubotu sad
[01:37] <Nom-> Seveas: I assume youve used the 64-bit version?  What should I know before I go and install it? :)
[01:37] <laskin1> i mean you are very ....  very ...  (good words   ):-P
[01:38] <tuqann> haahaa, yeah, as easy as pie
[01:38] <Seveas> Nom-, that flash won't work and neither will .wmv or .wma files
[01:38] <dystopianray> laskin1: I have only been using ubuntu for a short time, but have used other distros previously for several years
[01:38] <tuqann> ok
[01:38] <pramso> does anybody know another tool then s3switch for s3 graphics that can change NTSC to PAL?
[01:38] <tuqann> damn, need to change my nick back to tuqann
[01:39] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, ubotu  thanks guys ill check ti out and update u if problem persists
[01:39] <laskin1> i just know redhat before ubuntu
[01:39] <Nom-> Seveas: Well, that kind of sucks....better just use 32-bit for now?
[01:39] <Seveas> Nom-, if those things are important to you: yes
[01:39] <dystopianray> Seveas: wmv will as of feisty
[01:39] <laskin1> wait a moment upgrade err
[01:40] <IdleOne> dystopianray, on the 64bit version?
[01:40] <dystopianray> IdleOne: yes, ffmpeg has a native wmv3/vc-1 decoder now
[01:40] <Seveas> nice
[01:40] <ferronica> dystopianray: If i burn it as DVD then full screen will come
[01:40] <Nom-> Last question for now, I hope... How do I turn off this thing which keeps converting all my normal quotes into extended characters
[01:40] <Nom-> ie. s =
[01:41] <dystopianray> ferronica: ah.. I'm not sure what you mean, you'll need some software that can convert an avi to a proper dvd, although I don't know of any
[01:41] <Nom-> it most annoying...
[01:41] <ferronica> dystopianray: because right now  small view area
[01:41] <tuqann> (aka tuqann) I've downloaded and ran "make install" two files, ipw2200 and ieee802.11, how will that affect my wireless if I just leave them be and get gnome-network-manager
[01:41] <Seveas> Nom-, you're looking for 'dead keys' in system -> prefs -> keyboard and you want to turn it off :)
[01:41] <billy> could i backup my system by copying it to another partition.  like, mount the other partition and then cp to the mount point?
[01:41] <dystopianray> tuqann: ubuntu supports ipw2200 right out of the box
[01:41] <laskin1> dystopianray you not work?  come here help us:-P
[01:42] <tuqann> I must have been reading an old thread
[01:42] <dystopianray> billy: I think using tar would be preferable, and be sure to preserve permissions
[01:42] <ferronica> dystopianray: 879 kbps xvid (Q.F.:0.231 bits*pixel)
[01:42] <dystopianray> laskin1: I'm a student
[01:42] <tuqann> can I fix it or should it be okay just to forget about it
[01:42] <N6REJ> I'm having problems getting ubuntu-server to install on my laptop.  It installs fine and then just continously reboots
[01:42] <billy> dystopianray:  great idea.  thanks for the tip.
[01:42] <fiqh> dystopianray, what box
[01:42] <dystopianray> tuqann: what is the problem?
[01:42] <ferronica> dystopianray: you mean it will convert it as before
[01:43] <ferronica> dystopianray: full screen will come
[01:43] <laskin1> me too8-)  but i know less than you
[01:43] <dystopianray> ferronica: sorry, I have no idea when it comes to converting avis to dvds
[01:43] <tuqann> okay, I want to get wireless to work, the gnome-network-manager, cause I have a WPA secured wireless network
[01:43] <Nom-> Seveas: I have looked in there, I see a keyboard layout with dead keys on it, but removing it has no effect (it auto re-adds itself)
[01:43] <tuqann> I downloaded and ran make install for two files, ipw2200 and ieee, becausae I didn't have this lan connection before I'm using now
[01:44] <dystopianray> tuqann: ipw2200 and iee80211 have nothing to do with lans
[01:44] <N6REJ> Seveas: good morning long time no speak
[01:44] <tuqann> okay
[01:44] <tuqann> for wireless
[01:44] <dystopianray> tuqann: oh, you mean you installed them to get wifi working
[01:44] <tuqann> yes
[01:44] <dystopianray> tuqann: well as I said, ubuntu supports ipw2200 out of the box, since at least 6.06
[01:44] <naught101> anyone know why firefox can't "open target directory" when downloading?
[01:44] <ferronica> dystopianray: can i burn it in VCD?
[01:44] <mike1o> !scanner
[01:44] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[01:44] <dystopianray> ferronica: I don't see why not, you'll need some program that can convert it though
[01:45] <tuqann> so I just grab gnome-network-manager with apt-get and that's the end of the story?
[01:45] <phaethon_> can anyone recommend a video card w/ open source drivers thats of comparable performance to a 7600gs, at least for beryl and minimum games like GW via wine?
[01:45] <ferronica> dystopianray: you its possible to convert DVDrip to DVD and VDC right ????
[01:45] <isak>  /whois CNU
[01:46] <isak> damn
[01:46] <dystopianray> ferronica: yes it is certainly possible, I don't know how to do it though i'm afraid
[01:46] <dystopianray> phaethon_: such a beast does not exist
[01:46] <phaethon_> :( so were struck with binary drivers? :(
[01:46] <thee3> why do programs keep crashing with the generic kernel but work ok with 386 on my computer?
[01:46] <ferronica> dystopianray: LOL dont scare i am with you :)
[01:46] <phaethon_> erm stuck
[01:47] <CNU> isak dont hoax me =(
[01:47] <dystopianray> phaethon_: intel and early ati cards have open source drivers, the performance is a bit crap though
[01:47] <isak> CNU :P
[01:47] <dystopianray> phaethon_: the nouveau project is making open source nvidia drivers, but there is still a long way to go
[01:47] <ferronica> dystopianray: you dont know  any software ?
[01:47] <dystopianray> ferronica: maybe ffmpeg, but it's a fairly complicated command line tool
[01:48] <AliceD> nero for windows can do it so the linux one may
[01:48] <tuqann> so I just install network-manager, problem sover???
[01:48] <dystopianray> ferronica: if you look in the forums there is probably guides on how to make a dvd
[01:48] <dystopianray> AliceD: I don't think nero for linux supports any of the multimedia stuff of the windows version
[01:48] <dystopianray> tuqann: yeah network-manager will do it
[01:48] <AliceD> that sucks
[01:48] <dystopianray> tuqann: edit /etc/network/interfaces to remove all but the 'lo' interface too
[01:48] <tuqann> okay
[01:49] <phaethon_> yah, i have intel i9515 gfx card in my laptop .. runs beryl good enough.. no such luck w/ gaming.. so were stuck till nvidia / ati release specs for O/S drivers pretty much? or at least optimized drivers for linux vs windows. so were like windows vista atm, whereas using there drivers will actually slow your framerate
[01:49] <gambit> hi guys
[01:49] <ferronica> dystopianray: Give me the link let me check it out ....
[01:49] <n33o> Hi, how can i set up local ftp server for my network >??
[01:49] <dystopianray> !forums
[01:49] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[01:49] <dystopianray> ferronica: http://www.ubuntuforums.org.
[01:49] <n33o> Im using 6.06
[01:49] <fiqh> !sex
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <n33o> ftp
[01:49] <phaethon_> the latest vista drivers dropped my framerate in vanguard by over 12 fps :(
[01:49] <n33o> !ftp
[01:49] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[01:50] <n33o> !ftp server
[01:50] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[01:50] <tuqann> how to I add the daemon to my startup session?
[01:50] <dystopianray> phaethon_: I have i915 as well, it's not too bad, and it will get faster eventually, there is still lots of work being done in non-mainline branches, like native modesetting and that new texture thing
[01:50] <tuqann> I installed it, it said "starting daemon [ok] " but I don't see it
[01:50] <dystopianray> tuqann: networkmanager? should do it automatically when you install it
[01:50] <Chai_Sangeen> ubotu, does the link u sent me apply to edgy to ? or no diff ?
[01:50] <dystopianray> tuqann: you need to install a frontend for it, like network-manager-gnome or knetworkmanager
[01:50] <gambit> could anybody help re. my problem with wifi card it is RT61,how can i install the driver?m using 6.10
[01:51] <thee3> why do programs keep crashing with the generic kernel but work ok with 386 on my computer?
[01:51] <phaethon_> my laptop with i915 is more .. happy than my nvidia 7600gs atm. least it doesnt require me re running envy every kernal update :D cmon drivers....
[01:51] <dystopianray> Chai_Sangeen: ubotu is a bot
[01:51] <jft_> hey all
[01:51] <CheshireViking> !botsnack
[01:51] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:51] <tuqann> hmmm, restart perhaps?
[01:51] <rambo3> !synaptics | Chai_Sangeen,
[01:51] <ubotu> Chai_Sangeen,: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:51] <Chai_Sangeen> dystopianray, hahaha
[01:51] <tont> i have compiled the kernel 2.6.20..it's ok..but when i start him firm to the following messages: waiting for root filesystem..what can i do?
[01:51] <jft_> has anyone tried ubuntu on the dialouge flybook?
[01:51] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, it works for all ubuntu version
[01:51] <phaethon_> dystopianray: thx for the help :)
[01:51] <thee3> why do programs keep crashing with the generic kernel but work ok with 386 on my feisty?
[01:52] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, just scroll down to the bottom of that page to read for apple
[01:52] <billy> dystopianray:  for the backup, create a tar.gz better, you think?  easier to transfer?
[01:52] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, yeah but when i did the grep there was no "Synaptics Touchpad"
[01:52] <dystopianray> phaethon_: I think feisty will have the i915tex driver, which improves performance
[01:52] <quiet> i'm not gonna break anything if i install kubuntu-desktop on a ubuntu that already has gnome, right?
[01:52] <tuqann> I remember setting up wpa_supplicant for my WPA wireless connection
[01:52] <phaethon_> dystopianray,  awesoem :)
[01:52] <dystopianray> billy: hrrm, how much data?
[01:52] <quiet> nor should it be a problem to remove kubuntu-desktop in the even i don't want it.
[01:52] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay let me check that out...
[01:52] <billy> dystopianray: well, it's the entire shabangabang.  5Gig, about.
[01:53] <tuqann> I'm gonna restart (or logoff/on) and see if I get the daemon to run
[01:53] <dystopianray> billy: ah, well 5GB is not that much, gzip might allow it to fit on a dvd, which could be handy
[01:53] <n33o> how do i apt get and install pure adimin
[01:53] <phaethon_> dystopianray,  but for my desktop, theres neither a reason or a card to move to from my 7600gs? thats too bad :( i thought matrox was O/S friendly, though that was many years ago
[01:53] <n33o> ?
[01:53] <billy> dystopianray:  gzip?  what about -z flag into tar?
[01:53] <dystopianray> phaethon_: I don't think matrox has made a card in years
[01:53] <Mortuis> How do I list what ports are open?
[01:54] <n33o> !ftp server
[01:54] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[01:54] <phaethon_> dystopianray, its been a while :)
[01:54] <dystopianray> billy: yes, the -z flag makes it gzip the tar file, hence .tar.gz
[01:54] <dystopianray> phaethon_: intel is the most friendly modern graphics manfacturer
[01:54] <billy> dystopianray: ok.  so long as it's the same sort of deal.  :-)
[01:54] <dystopianray> billy: the -j flag will use bzip2 instead, might end up smaller, but will take considerably longer to compress
[01:55] <priich> matrox still makes cards but they focus on 2d multihead cards for eg banking, stock brokers etc that needs lots of screens but no 3d acceleration-.
[01:55] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay that looks good but that for the ibook... does the macbook use the same touchpad ? of so what section of the xorg.conf do i insert the code?
[01:55] <phaethon_> dystopianray, well my desktop has no onboard video. do they make a pci x video card that'll handle beryl and the occasional game through wine?
[01:55] <pariviere> hi all
[01:55] <Chai_Sangeen> hi
[01:55] <billy> dystopianray: thanks for the tip.
[01:55] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, first backup the xorg.conf . save it as xorg.conf_backup
[01:56] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay
[01:56] <dystopianray> phaethon_: pci-x or pci express?
[01:56] <phaethon_> dystopianray, PCI-X
[01:56] <dystopianray> phaethon_: your machine doesn't have agp?
[01:56] <dystopianray> phaethon_: I don't think anyone makes pci-x graphics cards :S
[01:56] <Mortuis> Is there a way to list what ports are open?
[01:57] <phaethon_> dystopianray, pci x only .. its a brand new mobo
[01:57] <dystopianray> Mortuis: netstat -tulp
[01:57] <pariviere> i've a problem with GtkFileChooser. it shows me hidden files too (the option "Show hidden files" is inactive in nautilus). What's wrong?
[01:57] <`nicola> is there any avant-window-navigator channel for support ?
[01:57] <dystopianray> phaethon_: do you mean pci express?
[01:57] <Mortuis> thanks dystopianray
[01:57] <pariviere> same problem on ubuntu edgy and feisty
[01:57] <phaethon_> dystopianray, apparently so... in the manuel its referred to as pci-x .. whats the diff? :)
[01:57] <frojnd> hello
[01:57] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay its backed up sorry im slow cause of the touch pad lol
[01:57] <jrib> pariviere: right click > show hidden files
[01:57] <tuqann> dystopianray, I still can't see the network-manager daemon
[01:58] <dystopianray> phaethon_: pci-x is a faster pci slot that is found usually only on server systems, pci-express is something different and is on all modern desktop systems
[01:58] <aoirthoir> does anyone know of a way to tell gnome to open windows unmaximised? and at a particular size and place?
[01:58] <frojnd> why is my usb key so slow ?? do I have to install some additional drivers for it? It's (2gb space)
[01:58] <dystopianray> phaethon_: pci express supersedes pci and pci-x
[01:58] <pariviere> jrib: dude!
[01:58] <pariviere> never though to right click on GtkFileChooser!
[01:58] <AliceD> The Matrox Parhelia PCI 256MB is PCI-X compatible
[01:58] <jrib> pariviere: heh maybe that's a bug then
[01:58] <dystopianray> phaethon_: intel don't make dedicated graphics cards yet, however there are many rumours that they'll go into the market with one of their latest graphics chipsets, which are supposed to be significantly faster than the i915 stuff
[01:58] <phaethon_> dystopianray, well most definitly pci express then.. :) works like a charm w/ my nvidia 7600gs, i'd just like to support  a company that provides a card w/ OS drivers
[01:59] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, find Section "Input Device" for mouse
[01:59] <Paddy_EIRE> hello wonderful people of ubuntu
[01:59] <xerox__> hi any tips on how to install Flash Player 9 on 64 bit Linux (fiesty)?
[01:59] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, you can paste your xorg.conf at pastebin
[01:59] <LjL> !feisty > xerox__    (xerox__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:59] <Paddy_EIRE> is there a debian installer for ubuntu in the same vein as the Goodbye Microsoft one???
[01:59] <aoirthoir> Paddy_EIRE: Eire cad  mar at tu?
[02:00] <rambo3> !pastebin | Chai_Sangeen
[02:00] <ubotu> Chai_Sangeen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:00] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[02:00] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, thats what i've been trying to do but it seems down
[02:00] <dystopianray> frojnd: how slow is it? is it usb2 compatible? does your computer have usb2? have you tried plugging it into different usb ports?
[02:00] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, ill try the link the bot sent me
[02:01] <aoirthoir> usb flash drives are always slow.
[02:01] <frojnd> dystopianray: it is very slow, well first 30% are fast and than it goes like forever.
[02:02] <dystopianray> frojnd: how fast and how slow?
[02:02] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, nice pastbin very clean interface :) anyways here is the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11644/
[02:02] <dystopianray> frojnd: is that first 30% of the drive? or first 30% of any given transfer?
[02:02] <pariviere> jrib: yup. thks by the way ;)
[02:02] <Night-Fire> hello
[02:02] <frojnd> dystopianray: well first 30% is done in about 10 sec and other 70% 10-15 min
[02:02] <Night-Fire> i want to be able to play MP3s and listen/talk in teamspeak
[02:02] <frojnd> we are talking about 350mb of data
[02:02] <dystopianray> frojnd: do you get anything suspicious in dmesg while it happens?
[02:02] <Night-Fire> any one solved this issue?
[02:02] <frojnd> dystopianray: stalled..
[02:03] <dystopianray> Nikolas: make teamspeak use alsa
[02:03] <frojnd> and than speed goes like 300kB/s 1mb/s and 30kB/s
[02:03] <dystopianray> frojnd: hrrm strange, is it being mounted with the sync or async options?
[02:03] <Night-Fire> how?
[02:03] <frojnd> dystopianray: usb is mounted when I put it in comp..
[02:03] <Night-Fire> i have xmms using also wich is using /dev/dsp
[02:04] <Night-Fire> and if i make it use dsp1 in teamspeak it blocks offsound
[02:04] <dystopianray> Nikolas: /dev/dsp is not alsa
[02:04] <rambo3>  Chai_Sangeen  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11645/
[02:04] <frojnd> dystopianray: i was thinking about enabling dma
[02:04] <dystopianray> whoops that was meant for Night-Fire
[02:04] <Nikolas> dystopianray, I am not Night-Fire
[02:04] <Night-Fire> also uses dsp
[02:04] <dystopianray> frojnd: you should have dma
[02:04] <N6REJ> does anyone have a compaq 1685?
[02:04] <arruah> hi
[02:04] <dystopianray> Nikolas: sorry, tab completion mixup
[02:04] <arruah> anybody from Kazakhsstan ?
[02:04] <Nikolas> :)
[02:04] <Nikolas> np
[02:04] <Night-Fire> any how can i make teamspeak use alsa
[02:05] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: /dev/dsp is oss, configure xmms to use alsa, and configure teamspeak to use alsa
[02:05] <Night-Fire> xmms is using alsa
[02:05] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay thanx let me try it out and restart x and update u
[02:05] <Night-Fire> but how can i make TS use alsa
[02:05] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: does it have no option to select alsa?
[02:06] <Nikolas> You might have to use either alsa-oss or the kernel oss emulation if you can't configure teamspeak to use alsa
[02:06] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: assuming the teamspeak binary is named 'teamspeak' try this as root (sudo su to get root) # echo "teamspeak 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:06] <Night-Fire> theres only three options in TS for sound devices: 1.default (oss/dev/dsp), 2.default network 3.other
[02:07] <pressureman> hi, i've just compiled a custom kernel "the old fashioned debian way", and i've ended up with a gigantic kernel package, about 220MB. the initrd is about 40MB! what have i done wrong?
[02:07] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: try what I said, replacing 'teamspeak' with the name of the teamspeak binary
[02:08] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: running teamspeak through 'aoss' might also work
[02:08] <Chuan> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/widows-ntfs-partitions-readwrite.html
[02:09] <AJIEXA_> is there sombody who make from Ubuntu - Kubuntu ???
[02:09] <Night-Fire> the echo command didnt help
[02:09] <Rawh> say what ?
[02:09] <dystopianray> AJIEXA_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <Rawh> that just made no sense at all :)
[02:09] <dystopianray> Night-Fire: you replaced 'teamspeak' with the exact name of the teamspeak binary?
[02:10] <AJIEXA_> dystopianray, yes I kniw that, but I want to ask about this
[02:10] <rambo3> !ro
[02:10] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[02:10] <rambo3> you are dosvidanja ru not ro
[02:10] <Night-Fire> yes
[02:10] <Robe_> How I can set an environment variable?
[02:10] <Nullbyte> Hey, do anyone know why glxgears says this when I run it? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:10] <LjL> Robe_: export VARIABLENAME=value
[02:11] <Robe_> LjL, thanx
[02:11] <morgWork> got a question- http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu_GNU/Linux   implies that dapper runs mediawiki 1.7 ... yet on edgy, 1.4 is what comes up- does this make sense to anyone?
[02:11] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: you are lacking direct rendering
[02:11] <Night-Fire> direct
[02:11] <Night-Fire> woops
[02:11] <tuqann> Linux will remain a big box of mystery to me, everything just seemed to work after a couple of restarts :S
[02:11] <Night-Fire> root@davidb-laptop:/home/davidb/TeamSpeak2RC2# echo "Teamspeak.bin 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:11] <dystopianray> tuqann: what did you do?
[02:11] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: How do I get that then?
[02:11] <Hadi360> hi
[02:11] <AJIEXA_> Kubuntu and ubuntu use one repositaries or no ???????
[02:12] <jrib> AJIEXA_: yes
[02:12] <LjL> AJIEXA_: yes
[02:12] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: what video card do you have?
[02:12] <nhy> Is beryl in the official repositories?
[02:12] <LjL> nhy: yes but a very old version
[02:12] <dystopianray> AJIEXA_: they both use the same repos
[02:12] <Hadi360> hi
[02:12] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: ATI x800
[02:12] <tuqann> installed:
[02:12] <tuqann> network-manager
[02:12] <tuqann> network-manager-gnome
[02:12] <tuqann> wpa_supplicant (but it was already installed)
[02:12] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: I know, ATI sucks
[02:12] <dystopianray> nhy: not right now, but it will be in feisty soon, afaik
[02:12] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: Especially their drivers
[02:12] <dystopianray> Nullbyte: ah, sorry I know nothing about ati, except that they suck
[02:12] <tuqann> a couple of restarts and the thing started on its own
[02:12] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay i rebooted the latop but it a little better but not normal
[02:12] <nhy> for powerpc?
[02:12] <Nullbyte> dystopianray: ;)
[02:12] <karthick> hi
[02:12] <tuqann> which brings me to another question
[02:12] <Night-Fire> any ideas any one?
[02:12] <dystopianray> tuqann: did you remove everything but 'lo' from /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:13] <nhy> if not than I may create my own repo for ppc
[02:13] <LjL> morgWork, i guess that site is wrong, i see 1.4.something in Dapper and 1.4.something as well as 1.5.something in edgy
[02:13] <AJIEXA_> dystopianray, OK THX that i want to know
[02:13] <nhy> I've built debs for ppc
[02:13] <dystopianray> nhy: I don't see why not
[02:13] <eimajentha1> I have a system running Ubuntu server (ie. no GUI).  When it boots, I want it automatically login to a specified user account, and start a specifiec commandline application.  How would I do that?
[02:13] <nhy> ok
[02:13] <tuqann> dystopianray, whenever I restart my screen goes all pixally with different colors and the machine halts, but it doesn't turn off
[02:13] <nhy> fine
[02:13] <LjL> nhy, try asking in #ubuntu-effects, there they'll probably know what repositories for beryl are out there
[02:13] <dystopianray> tuqann: umm, that is strange, I don't know why that would be though
[02:13] <morgWork> LjL: this doesn't bode well :/
[02:14] <tuqann> I have an ATI card, when I boot the system the splash screen load meter goes one third before it gets disorted then the login screen for ubuntu loads up
[02:14] <LjL> morgWork: well, Feisty does have 1.7 though, and Feisty should be out in April
[02:14] <LjL> morgWork: perhaps there's also a backport...
[02:14] <morgWork> LjL: yeah, I just saw it mentioned on backports
[02:14] <tuqann> so far this hadn't cause a problem, so  I don't care, but the restart is a problem, I didn't try yet shutdown -r now
[02:15] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, try configuring mouse acceleration , and get one of those synaptics programs ksynaptics
[02:15] <LjL> morgWork: correct, there's "mediawiki1.7" (which in feisty is simply called "mediawiki") in the edgy backports
[02:15] <kaptengu> is there any xmms plugin that let's you play mp3s backwards?
[02:16] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay do i just leave the xorg.conf the way u edited or revert it back to the original?
[02:16] <dystopianray> kaptengu: you can use sox to reverse sound files
[02:16] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, leave
[02:16] <morgWork> LjL: yup- gonna run with that.
[02:16] <Night-Fire> any one??
[02:16] <Night-Fire> root@davidb-laptop:/home/davidb/TeamSpeak2RC2# echo "Teamspeak.bin 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:16] <kaptengu> great! ty dystopianray
[02:16] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, i mean this is wierd it was working perfectly fine with the previous install
[02:16] <Night-Fire> didnt work
[02:17] <dystopianray> kaptengu: sox can do lots of other thigns too, very nice cli app
[02:17] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, vette fan
[02:17] <shnastybiznastic> So I just installed edgy, and my 9800 pro isn't working.  I followed the directions to get everything running (downloaded fglrx, ran the xorg configurator, disabled compisiting), but it dosent work, worse, even though the fglrx driver is in xorg.conf, glxinfo shows that I don't have direct rendering.
[02:17] <shnastybiznastic> any ideas?
[02:17] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, i'm using gnome so i should go with "sudo apt-get install qsynaptics"
[02:18] <tuqann> I installed my ati x700 using the lastest drivers from the ati page, everything is running smoothly, but every time in the program menu I start ati control it doesn't run and gives me a "child process fireglcontrolpanel" error, any thoughts?
[02:19] <rambo3> sounds right
[02:19] <JonRob> hi, i was in here yesterday asking about the ubuntu livecd and making a few customizations, wondered if anyone might be able to help me out?
[02:19] <ikonia_> JonRob whats up
[02:19] <rambo3> @chuck
[02:19] <dystopianray> JonRob: have you seen this? http://code.google.com/p/reconstructor/
[02:20] <fiqh> dystopianray, is that what linux mint is based off?
[02:20] <tuqann> thanks dystopianray for your help with the network manager
[02:20] <ikonia_> linux mint ?
[02:20] <JonRob> dystopianray: thanks but not quite what i'm looking for
[02:20] <dystopianray> fiqh: I don't knwo what linux mint is
[02:20] <ikonia_> JonRob whats the problem
[02:20] <fiqh> ikonia_: yes.
[02:20] <ikonia_> fiqh what is linux mint ?
[02:20] <dystopianray> tuqann: no problem
[02:20] <fiqh> a distro
[02:20] <tuqann> linux mint? isn't that the linux based off ubuntu that has everything ready out of the box?
[02:20] <fiqh> an ubuntu based distro
[02:21] <JonRob> iknoia: i'm trying to put some custom media on the desktop but there's quite a lot - about 400mb
[02:21] <ikonia_> o
[02:21] <ikonia_> oh
[02:21] <wick2o> good morning
[02:21] <ikonia_> JonRob ok
[02:21] <ikonia_> JonRob and whats the problem ?
[02:21] <fiqh> tuqann: yeah, i thought it was based off reconstructor.
[02:21] <JonRob> so, my plan is to leave it in the root directory of the disc (dvd)
[02:21] <fiqh> I'd like to make an ubuntu based distro
[02:21] <tuqann> I downloaded the image, but got 2.0 by mistake instead of 2.2, so I dumped the idea and went back to ubuntu
[02:21] <fiqh> With some stuff added on
[02:21] <ikonia_> fiqh why ?
[02:21] <JonRob> but i can't symlink to it because it's readonly
[02:21] <fiqh> and some stuff removed
[02:21] <fiqh> how would i go about that tho :P
[02:21] <JonRob> is there a way to mount it?
[02:21] <robe_> I need to use Synaptic Package Manager but I'm behind a proxy that require user and password. Can somebody tell me how to configure it?
[02:21] <fiqh> i mean, making a distro from lfs is easy
[02:21] <fiqh> but how do you make an ubuntu based distro
[02:22] <tuqann> gonna go test my wireless connection, thanks for all the help guys
[02:22] <fiqh> ikona_: because i want my own optimizations
[02:22] <ikonia_> JonRob thats not how the livecd works, it uses a compressed filesystem (based on squash FS I think) you have to modify the uncompresed file system and repackage that so that the cd uncompresses it properly
[02:22] <ikonia_> fiqh no its not - copying the LFS book is easy - creating that book is hard
[02:22] <dystopianray> fiqh: have you tried this? http://code.google.com/p/reconstructor/
[02:22] <wick2o> can anyone recommend a linux program for recovering zip passwords?
[02:22] <ikonia_> fiqh such as ?
[02:22] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, ran the program but it asks me to install the synaptics touch pad drivers
[02:22] <fiqh> dystopianray, yes
[02:22] <fiqh> well no
[02:22] <fiqh> but i will
[02:22] <JonRob> iknoia: yes that's waht i've done...mounted the iso and extracted everything and tried to put the symlinked directory under /etc/skel on the root of the livecd
[02:23] <fiqh> ikonia_: there are things that i'd like to implement.
[02:23] <fiqh> things like pax/selinux
[02:23] <fiqh> and distribute it
[02:23] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[02:23] <billy> whatever you do, don't tar your entire filesystem with other OS partitions mounted.  :(
[02:23] <fiqh> based on ubuntu
[02:23] <ikonia_> fiqh /another/ distro - why not just contribute to ubuntu
[02:23] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, bash: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: command not found
[02:24] <fiqh> ikonia_: Hmm..
[02:24] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[02:24] <ikonia_> JonRob ok, I don't quite see why its read only if you've modified it before you compressed and package it
[02:24] <fiqh> 'contribute' ?
[02:24] <bulmer> fiqh there is a new book out on creating your liveCD 35 bux if i recall
[02:24] <ikonia_> fiqh yes contribute
[02:24] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay installing
[02:24] <JonRob> iknoia: i think it's because i'm trying to point the symlink to /cdrom/Free\ Culture\ Example\ Media
[02:24] <fiqh> ikonia_: what like, write patches and find bugs?
[02:24] <ikonia_> fiqh impliment selinux for example as an option at install time
[02:24] <JonRob> there's no problem if i point it elsewhere
[02:24] <vladi_here> hi
[02:25] <ikonia_> JonRob Hmmmm thats very strange
[02:25] <fiqh> ikonia_: yeah, maybe.
[02:25] <wick2o> fiqh: white scripts to make remastering easier
[02:25] <ikonia_> JonRob /etc is not even a file system it comes of the root file system, so if root is not read only you should have no problem
[02:25] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[02:25] <Rooy> hi, does anyone know what the key for http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs is?
[02:25] <Rooy> or what's pitti's name?
[02:25] <LadyNikon> i dont even know what that is
[02:25] <JonRob> ikonia: sorry i didn't get that last bit, could you explain?
[02:26] <ikonia_> JonRob /etc is not a mount point, its a dir of / - so if you can write to / its mounted read-write therefore you should not have a problem
[02:26] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen,
 Chai_Sangeen,
[02:26] <rambo3> apt-cache search synaptics
[02:26] <JonRob> ikonia: hmm ok
[02:26] <ca> hi
[02:26] <JonRob> i'll try again and let you know what i get
[02:26] <ikonia_> JonRob please do, I'm curious
[02:26] <robe_> I'm trying to use Synaptic Package Manager but I get the following error "Failed to fetch ..., unauthorized". Can somebody tell me why happen that?
[02:27] <fiqh> well i'm getting the hurd5
[02:27] <fiqh> feisty's hurd5
[02:27] <fiqh> so i can dev on it
[02:27] <ikonia_> fiqh go on then, instead of telling us about it
[02:27] <jrib> Rooy: google for "ubuntu pitti"
[02:27] <fiqh> ikonia: It's downloading friend.
[02:27] <Rooy> jrib: thanks
[02:28] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, okay http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11647/
[02:28] <lefrenchy> hello people!
[02:29] <Chai_Sangeen> hellooo
[02:29] <billy> -cvzf are standard flags for tar.gz'ing for backup purposes?
[02:29] <lefrenchy> how do you avoid a package to be updated?
[02:29] <jrib> !pinning > lefrenchy    (lefrenchy, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:29] <JonRob> ikonia: i realised what i did wrong
[02:29] <vladi_here> I can choose between 1074x768 800x600 640x480 with gnome's resolution management. What command can do it in the terminal?
[02:29] <JonRob> but now i have a new problem
[02:30] <jrib> billy: the v is optional, "verbose"
[02:30] <dystopianray> vladi_here: xrandr
[02:30] <rambo3> Chai_Sangeen, does are programs for synaptics driver. I don't know what coude help you there . try : sudo apt-get install libsynaptics0 tpconfig
[02:30] <lefrenchy> thanks
[02:30] <JonRob> btw...quick side note - people in here might be interested to know i've just released an interview with mark shuttleworth at http://questionsplease.org/new/
[02:30] <vladi_here> dystopianray, thanks i'll see
[02:31] <JonRob> ikonia: back to my new problem, because the disc isn't mounted while i'm editing it the folder /cdrom/Free\ Culture... doesn't exist yet
[02:31] <billy> jrib: ok.  i kinda like the verbose.  gives me something to stare at.  and that's how i realized that I had other partitions (with another operating system) mounted, being tarred with everything else.  :-)
[02:32] <ikonia_> JonRob nothing you can do about that
[02:32] <JonRob> do you have any suggestions of how i could achieve my goal?
[02:32] <ikonia_> mount the cd ?
[02:32] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, i guess ill just do a fresh install again i mean the only reason i reinstalled ubuntu is to insure that it a clean install cause i completely ditched osx and my lappy is only running ubuntu
[02:33] <JonRob> ikonia: lol
[02:33] <ikonia_> JonRob you should have a local copy of the cd file systems on your harddisk for editing before making the squashfs packages
[02:33] <JonRob> yeah i do
[02:33] <KeNroM> Hi to all
[02:33] <JonRob> which is what i'm editing now
[02:33] <ikonia_> JonRob ok - so there should be no problem
[02:33] <bullgard4> Netzwerk-Manager-Applet 0.6.4 shows 3 WLANs . Network Administration Tool shows a '-' sign next to 'radio connection'. How can one explain this inconsistency?
[02:34] <KeNroM> i recently got a cd in the mail from ubuntu...and when i place it in my pc to boot
[02:34] <JonRob> how do you mean?! sorry if i'm slow - i think i'm punching above my weight with this project!
[02:34] <ikonia_> JonRob no no its fine, I may be understanding
[02:34] <KeNroM> it is loading from the cd
[02:34] <ikonia_> not understanding I mean
[02:34] <freezey> is there a tool that can edit code for you... the code is in plain text using like nano... i have thousands of files i have to edit and alls i have to do is change the directory... so i am wondering if there is a tool that i can use that will replace certain lines of code for me?
[02:34] <KeNroM> but i would like to install it on my pc hdd
[02:34] <superm1> i've got a cd containing packages that is added to my apt/dpk database via apt-cdrom.  these packages are the same versions as on the repos, but it appears that apt still wants to download them from the repos.  is there a way to change this behavior?
[02:34] <ikonia_> freezey sed
[02:34] <Chai_Sangeen> rambo3, thanx for all the help and effort u put to make things work i really appreciate it... many thanks :)
[02:35] <KeNroM> anyone?
[02:35] <freezey> ikonia_: what ?
[02:35] <ikonia_> KeNroM click the install icon
[02:35] <ikonia_> freezey use sed
[02:35] <Chai_Sangeen> do you guys recomend if i install ubuntu on my laptop using the desktop cd version of the alternate?
[02:35] <KeNroM> there is none:S
[02:35] <ikonia_> Chai_Sangeen doesn't matter
[02:36] <ikonia_> KeNroM you got a cd from ubuntu.com- and there is no install icon in the top left of the screen ?
[02:36] <KeNroM> let me recheck
[02:36] <Chai_Sangeen> ikonia, okay i guess ill trying using the alternate, thanx though
[02:36] <JonRob> KeNroM could you not run ubiquity from a terminal to get the install?
[02:36] <KeNroM> there is menu
[02:36] <billy> Chai_Sangeen:  if you're certain you want to install, use the alternate.
[02:37] <KeNroM> i see start or install ubuntu
[02:37] <KeNroM> and when i select that and hit enter
[02:37] <KeNroM> it starts the OS
[02:37] <KeNroM> not install it
[02:37] <KeNroM> :S
[02:37] <ikonia_> KeNroM "install ubuntu" installs it
[02:37] <Chai_Sangeen> billy yeah im sure no choice ubuntu rocks!
[02:37] <billy> word
[02:37] <ikonia_> KeNroM how can the OS not be "started" if you see an icon - where do you think that icon is being displayed from.....the OS
[02:38] <Chai_Sangeen> billy, ikonia, i guess ill see u guyz after the fresh install and i hope my touchpad problem gets fixed!
[02:38] <babo> guys, what's the command line touchpad interface called again ?
[02:38] <jrib> babo: synclient?
[02:38] <billy> Chai_Sangeen: there's usually a fix, my man.  good luck!
[02:38] <babo> I've disabled my touchpad by accident, and now it won't work
[02:38] <babo> jrib: hmm
[02:39] <babo> I can't try it until i boot up again. Can you check for me ?
[02:39] <babo> it sounds right ...
[02:39] <Chai_Sangeen> billy, thanx bro...
[02:39] <Miss-Ashi> Hey
[02:39] <jrib> babo: synclient - query and modify Synaptics TouchPad driver for XOrg/XFree86 server parameters on the fly.
[02:39] <babo> jrib: :-) thanks dude
[02:39] <jonaskul> i have 30 gb hdd, how much should i give ubuntu?
[02:39] <KeNroM> i see start or install ubuntu when i hit enter it begins to load the linux kernel
[02:39] <ikonia_> KeNroMok - then let it load
[02:40] <Miss-Ashi> is unbuntu really good?
[02:40] <JonRob> lol yeah, just realised where he is
[02:40] <KeNroM> and the desktop cums up
[02:40] <Chai_Sangeen> laterz..
[02:40] <ikonia_> KeNroM then when it brings up a desktop there is an "install" icon on the desktop
[02:40] <JonRob> Miss-Ashi: despends what you want :D
[02:40] <jrib> Miss-Ashi: a lot of us think so, use the live cd and just try it out
[02:40] <billy> will copying one OS containing partition onto another produce a partition that I can boot into and use normally?
[02:40] <KeNroM> ok
[02:40] <ikonia_> jrib good job you responded I had sarcasm all ready
[02:40] <Miss-Ashi> live cd?
[02:40] <ikonia_> billy no
[02:40] <JonRob> Miss-Ashi a live cd is a disc that lets you try it without installing anything
[02:40] <billy> ikonia_:  darn.
[02:40] <JonRob> runs entirely off the disc
[02:41] <vladi_here> dystopianray, thank you once again: xrandr  -q and xrandr  -s 1 made it.
[02:41] <soundray> billy: when you've copied, you have to adapt /etc/fstab and the bootloader.
[02:41] <jrib> Miss-Ashi: it's just referred to as the "desktop cd" on the download site.  It can be used as a live cd and to install as well
[02:41] <billy> soundray:  that sounds simple enough.
[02:42] <Miss-Ashi> really
[02:42] <Miss-Ashi> what about my drivers/
[02:42] <Miss-Ashi> i hav Dell laptop
[02:42] <aoirthoir> Does anyone know how to make ubuntu open my windows unmaximized and at a certain size and place? (Thank you kindly).
[02:42] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi the livecd sorts it
[02:43] <JonRob> Miss-Ashi - I'd say just go for it with the livecd
[02:43] <inoex135> halo
[02:43] <exs> I'm making the wubi homepage, but I need some help on the CSS. is there any css gurus here?
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> ofcourse
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> thanks..
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> i will try
[02:43] <Andeh> How would i burn the ubuntu cd while running ubuntu?
[02:43] <jrib> exs: #css
[02:43] <billy> soundray: i had the notion of putting my functional edgy on another partition and doing a test upgrade, just to see how it would go, theoretically.
[02:43] <JonRob> Miss-Ashi - cool, ask in here if you have any trouble :D
[02:43] <esperegu> Hi
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> how?
[02:43] <Miss-Ashi> email?
[02:43] <exs> jrib:  I'm in there too, just wondeirng if there's additional helpers
[02:44] <robe_> There's a way to download some package avoiding the use of Synaptic Package Manager?
[02:44] <esperegu> what is the prefered filesystem to use?
[02:44] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi email ???
[02:44] <jrib> !apt > robe_    (robe_, see the private message from ubotu)
[02:44] <soundray> billy: it's a good idea, but it involves some mildly risky steps, so ensure that your backup is current.
[02:44] <Miss-Ashi> yeah
[02:44] <JonRob> the same way that you're chatting in here now
[02:44] <Miss-Ashi> if i need ur hel
[02:44] <Pici> esperegu: ext2 or ext3.  I think Ubuntu uses ext3 by default.
[02:44] <Miss-Ashi> help
[02:44] <billy> soundray: just produced it.
[02:44] <Miss-Ashi> oooooooooooo
[02:44] <esperegu> Pici, thx. will use ext3 then
[02:44] <soundray> billy: if you have trouble, join #ubuntu+1
[02:45] <robe_> jrib, How I can do that? I'm new here
[02:45] <Andeh> How would i burn and download the Ubuntu Live CD in Ubuntu?
[02:45] <jrib> robe_: what irc client are you using?
[02:45] <billy> soundray: k.  thx
[02:45] <JonRob> i'm going to go and try and get my ahead around my problem - cheers for the help Iknoia
[02:45] <Andeh> *burn, not download
[02:45] <robe_> jrib, xchat from ubuntu 6.10
[02:45] <ikonia_> JonRob let me know how you get on
[02:45] <JonRob> lol i'll try
[02:45] <JonRob> if you're interested what it's for
[02:45] <JonRob> http://questionsplease.org/freeme
[02:45] <ikonia_> thansk
[02:45] <Miss-Ashi> will i be able to use opera msn messenger and other software on unbuntu
[02:45] <aoirthoir> Andeh:  if yo uare running from an installed copy of ubunut..just right click on the ISO file for your CD and choose write cd..or something like that
[02:45] <JonRob> a dvd/livecd to promote free culture
[02:46] <soundray> billy: will you know what to do with grub?
[02:46] <jrib> robe_: you should have another tab at the bottom that says "ubotu".  If you click on it, you can read the information ubotu sent you about APT.  See it?
[02:46] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi you can read all about ubuntu on http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <Andeh> So ISO burning utilites are already installed, aoirthoir?
[02:46] <Andeh> Yay
[02:46] <aoirthoir> Andeh: yup..so is most everything else you need
[02:46] <Andeh> Good for me
[02:46] <robe_> jrib, yes
[02:46] <Andeh> I know about that
[02:46] <JonRob> cheerio
[02:46] <aoirthoir> Andeh: office apps..music apps..programming apps...apps to create ISOs..apps to make your own cds...dvds...
[02:46] <Andeh> Now whats the most Live Messenger like linux MSN client?
[02:47] <Andeh> Cause gaims missing all the live features, most of them
[02:47] <ikonia_> Andeh amsn or gaim
[02:47] <aoirthoir> Andeh: if you want to burn multisession you will need to get gnomebake or something from the repos
[02:47] <Andeh> i mean it doesnt even have ink
[02:47] <aoirthoir> Andeh: ubuntu comes installed with GAIM from the rip
[02:47] <Andeh> Multisession disc?
[02:47] <KeNroM> thanks for your help
[02:47] <Andeh> I know i am running gaim :-D
[02:47] <KeNroM> it is installing
[02:47] <aoirthoir> Andeh: i hate gaim myself...yes multisession where you keep on writing to a cd until it is full
[02:47] <aoirthoir> gaim = sucky.... but at least it doesnt crash like yahoo messenger does
[02:48] <KeNroM> this is my first time in contact isntalling linux...i`m so friggin exicting:)
[02:48] <robe_> jrib, I've used Synaptic Package Manager to install my package and it work well. But now the network administrator set passwords in the proxy for each user and the Synaptic Package Manager failed to download the package. Do you know why happen that?
[02:48] <billy> soundray:  i was thinking producing an identical kernel title that's used for sda1 (where edgy now is) for sda4, moving the root filesystem.  my vocabulary may be off.  still learning.
[02:48] <Stormx2> Whats the problem with gaim?
[02:48] <aoirthoir> Andeh: a lot of the features of the messengers are Internet Explore Specific..it bites..but you might not get them
[02:48] <dyrne> i didnt know people actually like messenger..
[02:48] <CheshireViking> Miss-Ashi, most software you'd use on Windows has equivalents on ubuntu, I use Firefox for web browsing, Kopete/Gaim/aMSN for MSN access, Evolution for email, Open Office for an MS Office (Word, Excel etc)
[02:48] <aoirthoir> Stormx2: i dont like it..i prefer x-chat for instance
[02:48] <Andeh> From what i know, Windows live doenst work in Wine
[02:48] <aoirthoir> Stormx2: one problem is you are stuck with GTK font sizes..you cant change them
[02:48] <Andeh> Does it work in Crossover Office?
[02:49] <aoirthoir> andeh crossover uses wine..so if it wont work with wine it likely wont work with crossover
[02:49] <Andeh> Oh LOL
[02:49] <soundray> billy: the trick is to place the new title section after the ###AUTOMAGIC... line, so you boot into the old install by default, but can manually select the new one.
[02:49] <Andeh> So what the heck is the difference?
[02:49] <Andeh> Between getting WINE and Crossover i mean
[02:49] <aoirthoir> Andeh: gaim might not have all of the fancy stuff in the others...but it will work
[02:50] <jrib> robe_: did you go to system > preferences > network proxy and set up the proxy including your password?
[02:50] <gary> I'm trying to run X-window application over ssh.  The problem is with my computer, but I don't know what is wrong.  The $DISPLAY variable on the host machine is set to myip:0.0 and I get the following error: Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly
[02:50] <soundray> billy: you will then have to keep that section up to date manually, according to whatever latest kernel you have on the upgraded install.
[02:50] <CheshireViking> Miss-Ashi, you said you use a Dell laptop, which one is it? I've got Ubuntu running on my two Dell laptops with no problems, a Lattitude D400 and an older Inspiron 8100, everything works fine on both of them
[02:50] <billy> soundray:  new title section after AUTOMAGIC.  Gotcha.
[02:50] <aoirthoir> Andeh: as with most things free and open source, support is the main difference. Crossover can make sure that if something DOES work on wine..it WILL work on wine..theyve already set everything up for it
[02:50] <gary> Any thoughts on what may be the cause of this issue?#
[02:50] <shnastybiznastic> okay, the 3d acceleration issue cleared itself up after an upgrade and reboot
[02:50] <Andeh> I know but since yesterday i have received 63 messages along the lines of "Your MSN client sucks and doesnt support this feature"
[02:50] <aoirthoir> Andeh: but if something WONT run under wine...it wont run under crossover either
[02:50] <Miss-Ashi> latitude D600
[02:50] <jrib> robe_: and synaptic also has proxy settings in it's edit menu:  preferences > network
[02:50] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi you can read all about ubuntu on http://www.ubunt.com
[02:50] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi you can read all about ubuntu on http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:50] <aoirthoir> Andeh: msn messenger sux frankly...but thats my (correct opinion):)
[02:50] <Miss-Ashi> Thanks
[02:51] <Andeh> OK, wonderful, now where do i get a clinent that supports INK, WEBCAM and VOICE?
[02:51] <dystopianray> Andeh: the only 'features' you're lacking are crap like those stupid animations that people can send you, and that screen shaking rubbish
[02:51] <shnastybiznastic> I have another question though.  I'm used to using xscreensaver-demo to configure my screensavers, and I was wondering why I can't access the options of the screensavers in the default frontend/
[02:51] <dystopianray> Andeh: what is 'ink'?
[02:51] <dystopianray> Andeh: kopete and amsn support msn webcam
[02:51] <billy> soundray: hmm ... I think I need to do some tweaking.  make /boot its own partition.  setup now isn't too clean, imo.
[02:51] <Andeh> No wonder you arent helping if you dont know what ink is LOL.
[02:51] <soundray> gary: make sure you connect with ssh -X. $DISPLAY should then be set to localhost:10.0, from where the X protocol data will be forwarded.
[02:52] <dystopianray> Andeh: that msn plugin thing that lets you draw?
[02:52] <rsunny> hello everyone.
[02:52] <CheshireViking> Miss-Ashi, the only problems people seem to have with laptops are setting up the display to a normal resolution - both of mine worked straight off, and Wireless access can be awkward, but the Dell 400 worked from installation without any messing around
[02:52] <Zaggynl> Err, I just put my noisy sata disk to sleep with hdparm -Y /dev/sda but now my pc freezes every 30 seconds or so
[02:52] <rsunny> I have a query about configuring a static IPv6 address
[02:52] <frojnd>  I have some problems installing dma.. My usb device is /dev/sdc1 and now I don't know how to start dma. Should I like sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc  ?
[02:53] <Andeh> Oh sorry, some random key combination closed this chat tab
[02:53] <Andeh> Now, kopete supports voice too?
[02:53] <robe_> jrib, I've configured the network proxy in System/Preference/Network proxy but anyway I can't download any package
[02:53] <dystopianray> Andeh: no idea
[02:53] <Andeh> And how is my crappy webcam that hardly works at all going to work on linux?
[02:54] <jrib> robe_: right, how about in synaptic's network settings?
[02:54] <ikonia_> Andeh do you want help with anything or do you want to moan about messager support ?
[02:54] <soundray> frojnd: don't try to set dma on sdX devices. It will not make a difference at best and will cause trouble if you're unlucky.
[02:54] <catxk> how do I autostart (add to session) something that is to be run in terminal, like irssi?
[02:54] <iratik> Miss-Ashi: Ubuntu is currently a popular alternative to microsoft windows operating systems - in many cases it is more powerful and cost-effective than using windows systems ... whether or not to attempt to switch to it depends on what you do -- frankly ... if you are used to just checking email and chatting - it may not be for you - if you are feeling adventrous - there wouldn't be any harm in the live cd... just eject and re
[02:54] <iratik> start
[02:54] <dystopianray> Andeh: you'll have to find out if it's supported by v4l
[02:54] <frojnd> soundray: how else can i fasten USB stick?
[02:54] <robe_> jrib, I've tried there but I don't see the option to set the user and password
[02:54] <Andeh> OK thanks
[02:55] <Andeh> But i dont think anything officially supports it D:
[02:55] <jrib> robe_: ok, I'm not on edgy atm... butunder the Network tab, there is no "authentication" button?
[02:55] <rsunny>  is there a way to assign a static IPv6 ddress?
[02:55] <paljas> Anyone preseeding auto install? I can't get the 'user-account' question being skippen (6.10). I have "d-i passwd/make-user    boolean false" in my preseed.cfg
[02:55] <robe_> jrib, no
[02:56] <Andeh> How do i change my IP address through terminal?
[02:56] <ikonia_> Andeh ifconfig or ip route
[02:56] <dystopianray> Andeh: ifconfig
[02:56] <soundray> frojnd: make sure it's USB 2.0 and connected to a 2.0 port. Then the bottleneck is the speed of the flash memory, which you have no influence over.
[02:56] <Andeh> ifconfig
[02:56] <Andeh> hmm
[02:56] <Andeh> ok
[02:56] <jrib> !aptproxy | robe_
[02:56] <ubotu> robe_: apt-proxy is a program that acts as a local apt repository server for a LAN, only fetching from the internet when required. To set it up see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[02:56] <Miss-Ashi> how can i burn the cd
[02:56] <robe_> jrib, I've tried in the form "http://user:password@server:port" but it doesn't work
[02:56] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi use some burning software on your windows PC
[02:57] <dystopianray> Andeh: what is the model of your webcam?
[02:57] <robe_> jrib, OK, I'll see it right now!
[02:57] <billy> soundray:  besides, I won't need to get into it more than once.  just long enough to see how an dist-upgrade would leave me.
[02:57] <Miss-Ashi> oh k
[02:57] <Miss-Ashi> burn as a data cd?
[02:57] <jrib> robe_: sorry, I thought that was simpler... see this post: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/55599-configuring-proxy-synaptic-package-manager-ubuntu.html
[02:57] <nisse> Miss-Ashi: no
[02:57] <iratik> Miss-Ashi:Many windows pc's don't come with iso burning software already loaded - there are some programs you can download to enable you to do so --- if you get lost it may be a better idea to order the cd... they send free copies out
[02:57] <Andeh> Speed Link Crap-Cam
[02:57] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi its an iso image
[02:57] <Andeh> lol
[02:57] <nisse> Miss-Ashi: google: how to burn image cds with windows
[02:57] <ikonia_> Miss-Ashi join #windows for help using windows software
[02:57] <robe_> jrib, Ok, thanx
[02:57] <Miss-Ashi> to australia?
[02:57] <iratik> they ship world wide
[02:58] <iratik> ?i think?
[02:58] <nisse> Miss-Ashi: yes to australia.
[02:58] <Miss-Ashi> really?
[02:58] <soundray> billy: in that case, don't bother modifying menu.lst -- drop to the grub command line at boot with the C key and enter root, kernel, initrd and boot manually
[02:58] <Andeh> OK whats the command to CHANGE my IP, ifconfig just lists boring hardware details
[02:58] <dystopianray> Andeh: man ifconfig
[02:58] <ikonia_> dystopianray beat me to it, lazy spoon feeder
[02:58] <Razor44> Miss-Ashi- use freeware program called infra recorder
[02:59] <Andeh> That lists boring technical details
[02:59] <ikonia_> Andeh then your out of luck
[02:59] <billy> soundray: think a super grub disc will do the trick?  not too keen with the manual boot commands, though I'm not opposed to learning.
[02:59] <Miss-Ashi> thanks
[02:59] <soundray> billy, well, they're the same as the ones you would put in menu.lst
[02:59] <Andeh> Uh, it only says the options on displaying hardware info in more boring ways
[02:59] <frojnd> soundray: how can I do that, how can I check what kind of USB's ports do I have?
[02:59] <iratik> Andeh: i'm not sure if there is a single command to change your ip address - - /etc/network/interfaces contains your ethernet setup
[02:59] <ikonia_> Andeh man ifconfig
[03:00] <ikonia_> Andeh you'll learn how to use the command
[03:00] <Andeh> I did that, that displays options on how to display hardware info in different ways...
[03:00] <iratik> You would comment out the line containing dhcp -- and essentially - yeah... you'd need to just look up how to do it -- save and restart networking
[03:00] <ikonia_> Andeh no it doesn't
[03:00] <ikonia_> Andeh READ it instead of not bother
[03:00] <iratik> interfaces(5)
[03:00] <Andeh> ORLY?
[03:00] <dystopianray> Andeh: actually read the page and you'll discover you can use it to change all manner of options about the interface
[03:00] <billy> soundray:  i'll copy the one for sda1 down then, and replace sda1 with sda4.
[03:00] <Andeh> lol
[03:00] <Andeh> ok sorry
[03:00] <dystopianray> Andeh: YA RLY
[03:00] <cwmajors> Hopefully someone can help here: I have a computer with two NVidia 6600's in SLI mode, and I'm trying to install Feisty herd 5 on it. I get a black screen where I should get the Gnome login prompt. I've followed the instructions to edit xorg.conf to use "vesa" drivers, but the same thing happens. I cannot get the live CD to boot to a graphical interface. However, I can get the KANOTIX distro to boot from livecd, so that may
[03:00] <cwmajors>  be a starting point for someone. Can anyone help?
[03:00] <Andeh> NORLY
[03:00] <Andeh> This is fun
[03:00] <dystopianray> Andeh: buttsecks?
[03:01] <soundray> billy: note the different way in which grub names partition devices
[03:01] <Miss-Ashi> This is Fun
[03:01] <JosefK> tu+1
[03:01] <binary0> ummm
[03:01] <ikonia_> Andeh not with your lazy approach its not
[03:01] <Andeh> That is debatable.
[03:01] <billy> soundary:  (hd0,3), I think?
[03:01] <nisse> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[03:01] <nisse> There you can place an order.
[03:01] <nisse> They should arrive ~3 weeks.
[03:01] <binary0> i'm trying to compile an application, but i dont have any compilers.. what is it i need to install again ?
[03:01] <iratik> lol --- changing your ip address is pretty boring - if you don't like boring things then you won't like changing your ip address - why do something you don't like to do
[03:01] <ikonia_> binary0 gcc
[03:01] <soundray> billy, yes
[03:01] <binary0> i cam across it sometime ago as well
[03:01] <billy> pimpin
[03:02] <binary0> thanx ikonia
[03:02] <Andeh> OK i got it working but it seems that i cant change my IP from this end due to my highly stupid ISP
[03:02] <soundray> frojnd: look through your dmesg output. If the USB ports appear alongside messages about ehci, they are USB 2.0. If they are uhci or ohci, you have USB 1.1
[03:02] <ikonia_> Andeh nothing stupid about that
[03:03] <dystopianray> Andeh: you're trying to change your external ip? of course that isn't going to work
[03:03] <Andeh> Cause afaik, my ip address is ALWAYS <IP_ADDRESS> no matter what device i use and any attempts to change it fail from ANY OS.
[03:03] <CreepyCrawly> hi guys can anyone have a look at this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11653/
[03:03] <ikonia_> Andeh  you can't change internet addresses
[03:03] <Andeh> Uh...
[03:03] <binary0> ikonia_ : sorted, thanx
[03:03] <Andeh> Twitch twitch
[03:03] <iratik> Andeh: you don't seem to be using DHCP
[03:03] <Andeh> I dont seem to know what that may be, either.
[03:03] <iratik> Andeh: this means you are likely hooked up to a cable or dsl modem and might be the only system on your network
[03:04] <ikonia_> Andeh if you start READING and listening to things you won't make silly comments like that a look silly trying to blame everyone else for your lack of understanding
[03:04] <CreepyCrawly> can anyone help out here ?
[03:04] <Andeh> I'll pretend i understood that and ask more stupid questions.
[03:04] <rasputnik> CreepyCrawly: you need the gnome-window-decorator command?
[03:04] <Andeh> So i would need to go through a proxy to change my external IP, right?
[03:04] <iratik> Andeh: you are assigned an ip address- its pretty boring to change your name too -- and try changing your street address -- they are both similar to changing your IP if you are not using dhcp
[03:04] <ikonia_> Andeh no, and this is not the place to learn about networking, this is ubuntu support
[03:05] <CreepyCrawly> rasputnik, yes i know that what package is ti part of ?
[03:05] <iratik> Andeh: consult #networking
[03:05] <rasputnik> CreepyCrawly: no idea. have you tried googling?
[03:05] <CreepyCrawly> long live freenode :) #ubuntu
[03:05] <Andeh> Great, let's all go to the "learn about networking" channel and continue this conversation there
[03:05] <dystopianray> Andeh: why do you need a new ip? trying to avoid ip bans?
[03:05] <Andeh> Maybe
[03:05] <ikonia_> dystopianray $20 says your right
[03:05] <iratik> does freenode have support for displaying ages next to nicks?  j/k
[03:05] <Andeh> So i would literally need to phone my ISP and ask for a new IP or something?
[03:06] <BlueEagle> andeh: #ubuntu-offtopic is for such things.
[03:06] <iratik> Andeh: probably
[03:06] <rasputnik> Andeh: why do you want a new IP anyway?
[03:06] <Andeh> Crap
[03:06] <Andeh> I dont want a new one, i want to see if i can change it.
[03:06] <iratik> omg
[03:06] <Andeh> oyg.
[03:06] <cwmajors> Could I get some help with an Ubuntu installation question? I like my IP address just the way it is. ;)
[03:06] <soundray> units undisclosed
[03:06] <iratik> you want to see if you can change it?
[03:06] <iratik> unplug your ethernet cord
[03:07] <Andeh> Something like that...?
[03:07] <iratik> then hook it back up
[03:07] <rasputnik> Andeh: how is that different?
[03:07] <Andeh> That... Never... works
[03:07] <billy> soundray: i'd enter it manually like root=(hd0,3) kernel=/boot/vmlinuz2.6.17......  typed out linearly like that eh?
[03:07] <BlueEagle> !ask cwmajors
[03:07] <iratik> nuts
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask cwmajors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <BlueEagle> !ask | cwmajors
[03:07] <ubotu> cwmajors: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <dystopianray> Andeh: does your isp give you a static ip?
[03:07] <Andeh> Ive tried millions of modems and all kinds of IP refresh methods and commands, it is ALWAYS <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:07] <soundray> billy: yes, that looks right
[03:07] <iratik> Andeh: are you running ubuntu ?
[03:07] <Andeh> So probably
[03:07] <cwmajors> I did. Nobody noticed. ;)
[03:07] <Andeh> Yes
[03:07] <cwmajors> Hopefully someone can help here: I have a computer with two NVidia 6600's in SLI mode, and I'm trying to install Feisty herd 5 on it. I get a black screen where I should get the Gnome login prompt. I've followed the instructions to edit xorg.conf to use "vesa" drivers, but the same thing happens. I cannot get the live CD to boot to a graphical interface. However, I can get the KANOTIX distro to boot from livecd, so that may
[03:07] <cwmajors>  be a starting point for someone. Can anyone help?
[03:08] <dystopianray> Andeh: well then you can't change it without contacting your isp
[03:08] <ikonia_> Andeh why do you want to change your IP
[03:08] <billy> soundray: thanks.  here goes nothin'!
[03:08] <Andeh> BRB telephone
[03:08] <rasputnik> Andeh: that's like trying to change your phone number by looking in your cellphone settings. can't be done. move on.
[03:08] <Pici> cwmajors: Feisty support in #ubuntu+1
[03:08] <iratik> Aneh: er... why do you want to "see if you can " change your address
[03:08] <PriceChild> cwmajors, btw SLI isn't supported in Linux yet... you just have to use them as two seperate cards
[03:08] <ikonia_> PriceChild the nvidia binary module does have limited sli functionality
[03:08] <iratik> yeah... like   going to the land lord to change your address -- really...  doesn't ... what are doing.. running from the internet cops ?
[03:08] <dystopianray> cwmajors: try taking one card out and installing, then configuring the nvidia driver, and then put in the second card
[03:08] <rasputnik> iratik: because he's been banned from a forum, I expect
[03:08] <CheshireViking> Andeh, does you ISP give you a fixed IP? maybe thats why it doesn't change
[03:09] <PriceChild> ikonia_, lol "limited"
[03:09] <ikonia_> PriceChild it "works"
[03:09] <iratik> rasputnik: i was thinking banned on everquest or some rpg thing
[03:09] <rasputnik> iratik: yeah, one of those
[03:09] <mzanfardino> is there a way to resize and existing partition?  I'd like to shrink my home partition by say 40gb so I can create a new 40gb partition.
[03:09] <iratik> hey Andeh: if you sign up for a new isp -- even a dial isp .. I guarantee that you wont have the same IP -- there is your answer
[03:10] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell cwmajors about feisty
[03:10] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: what filesystem is /home on?
[03:10] <dystopianray> mzanfardino: the gparted livecd can shrink partitions and do other things
[03:10] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: one sec
[03:10] <CreepyCrawly> meh i f***in hate beryl
[03:10] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly why swear ??
[03:10] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly it just so uncalled for
[03:11] <rasputnik> ikonia_: that's not swearing
[03:11] <ikonia_> rasputnik ***'ing out words is
[03:11] <cwmajors> BlueEagle: I know all about feisty- I'm running it on one desktop computer and my laptop. It's just this other computer that's giving me trouble. :)
[03:11] <BlueEagle> cwmajors: Well then you also know that feisty isn't supported in this channel, right?
[03:11] <ikonia_> BlueEagle genius
[03:11] <CreepyCrawly> ikonia, if i wanted to swear i wouldnt of ***** done that
[03:11] <Pici> !ohmy
[03:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:11] <ikonia_> exactly
[03:11] <rasputnik> ikonia_: i'd call that 'making an effort' - a lot of us curse as a matter of course.
[03:11] <ikonia_> om my !
[03:12] <CreepyCrawly> ikonia, then help me fix compiz
[03:12] <ikonia_> rasputnik how about don't use **** just don't imply bad language
[03:12] <iratik> yeah... its cursing -- but i never did get in trouble for the f asterisk asterisk asterisk n word
[03:12] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly join the right channel and I may
[03:12] <CreepyCrawly> and that is ?
[03:12] <cwmajors> No, I don't. But the same problem exists with Edgy, so I figured the main channel would suffice.
[03:12] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly #ubuntu-effects
[03:12] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: hmmm... well, I installed with the default parameters from kubuntu 6.10.  when I look at the results of mount I only see root (/) and it's ext3.  I thought I had a /home as well, but I"m not seeing it.  Maybe there is a better tool than mount?
[03:13] <mzanfardino> dystopianray: thank you, I wil check that out
[03:13] <iratik> so ... is that all of the questions ?
[03:13] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: nope, that's what you have. default install on edgy doesn't slice up the root partition. In that case you need to shrink everything, which means you'll have to boot off a rescue cd or something
[03:13] <quaal> hey
[03:14] <CreepyCrawly> ikonia, and ?
[03:14] <quaal> i moved my windows serial drive from one serial card to another
[03:14] <quaal> the windows drive was there when i installed ubuntu
[03:14] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly what ?
[03:14] <quaal> and i could boot to it from grub
[03:14] <quaal> i can no longer boot to it on the new serial controller
[03:14] <CreepyCrawly> i joined and ...?
[03:14] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: something like gparted livecd I take it...
[03:14] <ikonia_> CreepyCrawly ask for help in there
[03:14] <quaal> is there a way to make grub boot it ?
[03:14] <quaal> or do i need to put it back on the old serial card
[03:14] <CreepyCrawly> Bleh
[03:14] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: I've not tried, but that sounds like your best bet. it's possible to shrink ext3, so you should find a way
[03:15] <dystopianray> quaal: does it actually get to windows at all? or is grub saying it can't boot it?
[03:15] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: trick is to shrink the filesystem, *then* the device
[03:15] <quaal> dystopianray, grub says it cant boot it
[03:15] <dystopianray> quaal: I'd be surprised if windows can survive an ata controller change
[03:15] <priich> well he could try some dhclient magic and say refuse the dhcp server he normally uses. (most ISPs have a bunch.) if he then released and renewed, the odds that he got assigned a different IP should increase.
[03:15] <quaal> like it cant even find it
[03:15] <quaal> dystopianray, hmm
[03:15] <kabtoffe> feisty beta, when?
[03:15] <iratik> quaal: its not there at all
[03:15] <dystopianray> quaal: you'll probalby have to change where grub is looking for windows
[03:15] <iratik> wel... switch back -- that'll work
[03:15] <quaal> i'm guessing grub is attached to a different /dev/name than it is located at now ?
[03:15] <Pici> kabtoffe: Later.
[03:15] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: ok, thank you.  I'm reviewing the gparted livecd site now.  looks like this cd is dedicated to just this issue.
[03:15] <iratik> you have both installed?
[03:15] <kabtoffe> :(
[03:15] <binary0> trying to compile an application, i now get this error :-
[03:15] <quaal> dystopianray, know how to edit grub ?
[03:15] <binary0> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:16] <binary0> any idea ?
[03:16] <rasputnik> mzanfardino: good luck
[03:16] <rdesh> ux
[03:16] <dystopianray> quaal: grub doesn't use /dev/ names, it's seperate from linux
[03:16] <mzanfardino> rasputnik: thank you
[03:16] <iratik> binary0: wild guess.. apt-get install build-essentials     - is  that right ?
[03:16] <quaal> dystopianray, hmm
[03:16] <quaal> dystopianray, what does it use?
[03:16] <dystopianray> quaal: /boot/grub/menu.lst, iirc
[03:16] <rasputnik> binary0: do an 'apt-get install build-essential'
[03:16] <dystopianray> quaal: (hdx,y) syntax
[03:16] <binary0> ah, that was what i was looking for... :)
[03:16] <binary0> thanx all
[03:16] <rasputnik> iratik: sorry, should've looked up
[03:17] <rasputnik> binary0: you'll still need some extra packages - depends what you will be linking against
[03:17] <iratik> nothing to be sorry bout ---  my wild guess clause indemnifies any errors i make
[03:17] <rasputnik> iratik: :)
[03:17] <binary0> rasputnik: ok, lemme get that install done then i'll check whats next
[03:17] <robe_> jrib, That doesn't work :-(
[03:18] <quaal> dystopianray, awesome thankyou
[03:18] <bas> does anyone have an  idea how to rerun the package install from the installer? e.g. i would like to have the lamp suite which the installer offers...
[03:18] <robe_> jrib, I'm downloading the package through "apt-get install"
[03:18] <dystopianray> quaal: how many drives do you have?
[03:18] <quaal> uhh
[03:18] <robe_> jrib, exporting the variable "http_proxy" ;-)
[03:19] <quaal> dystopianray, currently 7
[03:19] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell bas about lamp
[03:19] <iratik> bas : that's not as easy as you might hope -  but is nevertheless easy...
[03:19] <dystopianray> quaal: ah, well you'll have to find out what number to use in grub to boot whichever drive has windows
[03:19] <quaal> dystopianray, right
[03:20] <slimz> anyone know if i can use a live cd to make an image of a winxp nfts drive that can be resotred later?
[03:20] <bas> iratik: ok.. how easy? :)
[03:20] <ikonia_> slimz not really as things like that registry can cause problems, you can "tar" it up
[03:20] <BlueEagle> bas: ubotu should have sendt you a mesasge with a link to the information you probably need.
[03:20] <dystopianray> ikonia_: you'd make an image of the whole partition, not backup the files off the partition
[03:20] <iratik> bas: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:21] <BlueEagle> bas: Unless you are also looking to remove some stuff already installed due to space restrictions et al.
[03:21] <iratik> a couple pages easy : )
[03:21] <slimz> ikonia_ : i was thinking something like a ghost image which can be restored, but i cant ghost to the network with the version of ghost i have
[03:21] <dystopianray> slimz: it's not that easy to do, becuase ntfs doesn't survive being moved around on a drive
[03:21] <iratik> but if you are going to actually use your lamp server-  it'll warm up your fingers
[03:21] <dystopianray> slimz: ntfsprogs has the utility 'ntfsclone' that can safely move an ntfs partition
[03:21] <bas> BlueEagle: ah thx
[03:22] <slimz> dystopianray : you think it could be run from a live session?
[03:22] <dystopianray> slimz: I dont see why not
[03:22] <dystopianray> slimz: maybe partimage can do what you need, that is on the systemrescuecd livecd
[03:23] <slimz> dystopianray : ok ill check it out, im on their website now
[03:23] <slashjamiec> hey
[03:23] <slashjamiec> hey, thought i'd join the ubuntu forums.. Since i've never been here
[03:23] <slashjamiec> i mean ubuntu irc*
[03:24] <slashjamiec> How is everyone?
[03:24] <noobi97> hell hel
[03:24] <noobi97> van itt magyar?
[03:24] <slimz> dystopianray : with this live cd, you think ill be able to get onto a domain to dump the image on a network drive?
[03:24] <epimer> hi guys
[03:24] <slashjamiec> Hey n00bi
[03:24] <slashjamiec> hey epimer
[03:24] <slashjamiec> How are you?
[03:24] <iratik> whats the language suffix for hungarian
[03:24] <epimer> can someone tell me what package i need to use "tunctl"? i'm getting a command not found
[03:24] <dystopianray> slimz: I don't see why not
[03:24] <iratik> thats what n00bi is speaking
[03:24] <elementz> need help installing nvidia drivers:
[03:25] <slimz> dystopianray : this is amazing, thanks man!
[03:25] <elementz> can't get into real console via > 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' - anybody got an idea why it is not working?#
[03:25] <dystopianray> slimz: I'd be surprised if it didn't have samba, or scp or nfs
[03:25] <noobi97> any1 speak hungary?
[03:25] <noobi97> i sad that
[03:25] <epimer> elementz, control alt F1 first
[03:25] <iratik> wow ... aolbonics are universal
[03:25] <slashjamiec> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:25] <epimer> elementz, then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , then run the installer script
[03:25] <Andeh> OK, im back
[03:25] <iratik> you speak any more popular languages ?
[03:25] <slashjamiec> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx to install nvidia drivers
[03:25] <elementz> epimer, thx man
[03:26] <slashjamiec> then sudo nvidia-config
[03:26] <Andeh> for all those of you who still think i WANT a new IP, NO.
[03:26] <CreepyCrawly> what package is gnome-window-decorator a part of
[03:26] <epimer> nobody have any idea about tunctl? trying to get seamless integration with virtualbox working
[03:26] <eyalw> is macbook 64 bits?
[03:26] <iratik> Andeh: i'd like to say some care - but i don't -- you can't get someone to care about something they don't know the motivation behind
[03:26] <slashjamiec> compiz is gnome-window-generators partner package
[03:26] <iratik> eyalw: #mac
[03:27] <dystopianray> Andeh: you're saying you 'need' a new ip?
[03:27] <CreepyCrawly> slashjamiec, i have compiz
[03:27] <slashjamiec> ok
[03:27] <dystopianray> eyalw: core 2 duo is 64-bit
[03:27] <iratik> froflmao
[03:27] <catxk> eyalw: guess you want a more definate answer but yes, I'm pretty sure :)
[03:27] <Andeh> I AM SAYING I DO NOT NEED OR WANT IN ANY WAY A NEW INFORMATION POINTER ADDRESS.
[03:27] <Andeh> Thank you!
[03:27] <slashjamiec> creepyCrawly: do you have xgl ?
[03:27] <CreepyCrawly> yes
[03:27] <rasputnik> Andeh: information pointer??
[03:27] <billy> soundray: boot hanged at the very last.
[03:27] <slashjamiec> umm
[03:27] <CreepyCrawly> it was working fine
[03:27] <iratik> wow.. that probably isn't allowed
[03:27] <Andeh> IP
[03:27] <slashjamiec> yeah?
[03:28] <iratik> its internet protocol
[03:28] <CreepyCrawly> unjtil i got beryl
[03:28] <iratik> is it ?
[03:28] <iratik> yeah... it is
[03:28] <rasputnik> heh
[03:28] <dystopianray> Andeh: IP = internet protocol
[03:28] <CreepyCrawly> then it fscked up
[03:28] <Andeh> Thats what i though
[03:28] <Andeh> But apparently...
[03:28] <fqh> hi
[03:28] <erUSUL> !caps > Andeh
[03:28] <iratik> Andeh: just say whats wrong in a nutshell -- whats the matter ?
[03:28] <Andeh> IALREADYKNOWABOUT!CAPS > erUSUL
[03:28] <lagunaloires> Hi
[03:28] <iratik> wow --- that'll get you kicked out andeh
[03:29] <slashjamiec> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194272
[03:29] <rasputnik> iratik: we live in hope
[03:29] <Andeh> Lol sorry
[03:29] <nhy> what is the default keyboard shortcut to show your desktop?
[03:29] <slashjamiec> try that link for the gnome-window-decorator
[03:29] <Andeh> I'll stop spamming you now
[03:29] <noobi97> what way install the 915resolutiont?
[03:29] <dystopianray> nhy: in kde, ctrl+alt+d
[03:29] <billy> noobi97:  sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[03:30] <slashjamiec> why do you want to edit your bios?
[03:30] <nhy> in gnome?
[03:30] <slashjamiec> nhy: whats the issue?
[03:30] <nhy> never mind
[03:30] <iratik> Andeh: alright - what the matter andeh ?  are you running ubuntu ? because it sounds like you are trying to circumvent something - and maybe you aren't - i'm not accusing you ... but you can't be helped if you are approaching the problem the wrong way
[03:30] <Andeh> Ok, my need to make everyone feel horrible ended now.
[03:30] <Andeh> I'll come back incase i feel like not using google for a bit
[03:30] <slashjamiec> Andeh, do you need help on an issue you're having or not? Everyone here is trying to help, and you're annoying people.
[03:31] <Linuxor> HI, Is there a way to recover delated files?
[03:31] <rasputnik> Linuxor: backups ?
[03:31] <dystopianray> Linuxor: try 'foremost'
 I mean software
[03:32] <rasputnik> Linuxor: sorry, cheap laugh
[03:32] <michaelpo> hi.. how do i edit a config file as root? i have problem accessing my canon a80 camera... "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device."
[03:32] <bill_> Linuxor: depends on how recently they where deleted, whether there have been writes to the disk, etc.  if you catch it right away you can usually undelete a file or a few
[03:32] <michaelpo> i've looked at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/91250
[03:32] <dystopianray> michaelpo: sudo <editor> /path/to/config
 is it like filerecovery in winxp?
[03:33] <slashjamiec> michaelpo: sudo gedit /path/to/config/file
[03:33] <dystopianray> Linuxor: I don't know about winxp, sorry
[03:33] <Andeh> Hello again
[03:33] <slashjamiec> oh, dystopianray, got in before me.
 IOI thx man
[03:33] <bill_> Linuxor: you should umount the partition ASAP to prevent overwriting it
[03:33] <PriceChild> Andeh, explain your problem afresh to me :)
[03:34] <bill_> Linuxor: then install sleuthkit
[03:34] <Andeh> Ok, i am typing
 what's ASAP?
[03:34] <slashjamiec> as soon as possible
[03:34] <slashjamiec> =
[03:34] <slashjamiec> asap
[03:34] <brianves> Hey there, hope I'm not interrupting.   I'm a complete noob.. anyway I've got Ubuntu Edgy.  and my problem is that my audio balance is very off.  The right side is probably 2 times louder than the left.
[03:34] <bill_> As Soon As Possible, == NOW
 IOI
[03:34] <rasputnik> brianves: there's a balance control in 'gnome-volume-manager'
[03:34] <dystopianray> brianves: for a work around, put your right speaker twice as far away as your left
[03:35] <brianves> very funny
[03:35] <slashjamiec> Brianves: I have/had the same issue. If you're using xmms or something. configure your equalizer.
[03:35] <Andeh> Apparently certain settings in Windows XP limit your internet bandwitdth but this can be fixed using automated scripts that modify these settings in the registry.
[03:35] <Andeh> In other words, does linux have a way to up your bandwidth, because speedtests say my windows up was 200 kb/s and my linux one is 20 kb/s
[03:35] <brianves> how do I do that?
[03:35] <slashjamiec> Mine distort really bad. But the equaliser configuration in xmms works a charm
[03:35] <Orfeous> how do i install kernel 2.6.20 when i have 2.6.20-12 installed?
[03:35] <xNinja> hello
[03:35] <iratik> KiB vs. Kbs ?
[03:35] <Orfeous> there are no linux-image.
[03:35] <slashjamiec> Hey xNinja!
[03:36] <ikonia_> Orfeous you already have 2.6.20 installed
[03:36] <Andeh> the 1024 bytes one
[03:36] <iratik> what speed test are you using?
 thx friend I'll try it
[03:36] <Andeh> and i mean my upload speed
[03:36] <xNinja> i have amd 64/2gb ram/512vga nvidia.....using ubuntu 6.10 or something else ?
[03:36] <Slart> Andeh: I don't think there are any bandwidth limiting settings, by default, in linux.. might be something driver related
[03:36] <josef> whats faster: ntfs or fat32?
[03:36] <ikonia_> xNinja or something else ?
[03:36] <Andeh> i used the same speed test on www.dslreports.com/speedtest
[03:36] <ikonia_> josef ntfs
[03:36] <slashjamiec> Cool xNinja!
[03:36] <bill_> Linuxor: if it's important stuff, i work for a forensics company, but it will cost you dearly :)
[03:36] <slashjamiec> I have similar specs, except i'm running 3gb ram.
[03:36] <xNinja> i am thinking what to use for my desktop
[03:36] <fabiim> i'm trying to read some pdf's , they have some images that are not shown , instead a square is displayed . Someone has some tip on what to do?
[03:36] <josef> thanks ikonia
[03:37] <fabiim> (i'm using evince and acroread )
[03:37] <erfdain> Can anyone help me with setting up the my windows network printer on my Ubuntu client?
 :)
[03:37] <iratik> simply put --- you might try getting a cheap nic card -- most of them work fine with ubuntu
[03:37] <iratik> its odd that there would be any issues at all
[03:37] <Andeh> I used my "slower" usb modem on windows and i had to buy an ethernet modem for linux which works fine on windows too but...
[03:37] <erUSUL> erfdain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[03:37] <ikonia_> iratik either that or its another one of his time wasting questions
[03:38] <iratik> yeah... what the heck man
[03:38] <iratik> these are still in general networking questions
[03:38] <Andeh> So either linux internet is slower (dont think so) or my new modem is crap (dont think so either, costed 50 euro)
[03:38] <brianves> I can set the audio so it's balanced,  but I use music programs..  and when they access the volume.  it reverts to even lock.  back to uneven balance
[03:38] <slashjamiec> Andeh, we're trying to help you.  You have like 10 different questions, changing them each time.
[03:38] <PriceChild> Andeh, "or" the tests you are using aren't accurate
[03:38] <rasputnik> Andeh: or you're using a different browser to do the test, or the testsite is wrong, or...
[03:38] <mike1o> !pastebin
[03:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:38] <PriceChild> Andeh, I think that is the most likely one.
[03:38] <Andeh> Ok, whatever.
[03:39] <slashjamiec> okay :)
[03:39] <slashjamiec> haha, okay.
[03:39] <iratik> just fiddle with it ...   different browsers - actually downloading files and timing them ... do some research into it --- you are frustrating yourself from a conclusion based on not necessarily the most reputable and infaliable source
[03:40] <michaelpo> dystopianray, slashjamiec: thanks... it works...
[03:40] <slashjamiec> You're more than welcome michaelpo :)
[03:40] <Andeh> OK, as for real problems (forget everything else i said earler), Ubuntu isnt getting any input from my microphone.
[03:40] <Andeh> This is NOT hardware related as exactly the same thing works on WinXP.
[03:40] <Andeh> Do i need drivers or something?
[03:40] <slashjamiec> You're more than welcome michaelpo :)
[03:40] <PriceChild> Andeh, usb or standard?
[03:41] <Orfeous> ikonia, ok, but how do i install 2.6.19?
[03:41] <AnRkey> You know the more I work with Ubuntu server and desktop the more I love it
[03:41] <Andeh> I am using my crappy little speakers plugged in a microphone port, this seems to work just fine.
[03:41] <AnRkey> life is so easy now
[03:41] <Andeh> Standard it is
[03:41] <slashjamiec> Yeah
[03:41] <PriceChild> Andeh, Its probablly just muted
[03:41] <slashjamiec> it took me 2 weeks to get used to
[03:41] <Andeh> Ok, how do i unmute it
[03:41] <iratik> u aren't running an HP compaq  built in the last -- i don't know ... yeah
[03:41] <PriceChild> Andeh, right click the volume icon and raise the volume on the mic input
[03:41] <iratik> yeah = year?
[03:41] <Andeh> uh... ok. wait a sec
[03:41] <iratik> are you?
[03:42] <Andeh> Ok its at the top
[03:42] <Andeh> ill try stuff with audacity
[03:42] <iratik> they have this quircky (senseless) audio driver that let's you plug in any plug to any port - and in windows. . it asks you what you meant to plug in
[03:42] <slashjamiec> i test my stuff with xmms, and the equalizer settings.
[03:42] <iratik> try xmms:  open url --  linein://
[03:42] <n33o> helo
[03:43] <Andeh> Nope, no input
[03:43] <slashjamiec> hey neeo
[03:43] <slashjamiec> n33o*
[03:43] <n33o> hi
[03:43] <slashjamiec> Whats the issue?
[03:43] <Andeh> audacity shows a straight line at 0db
[03:43] <Andeh> not even a hum
[03:43] <n33o> Want to get sound working on my install of ubuntu
[03:43] <n33o> finally got it online
[03:43] <n33o> lol
[03:43] <slashjamiec> ok, i'll help you with that
[03:43] <n33o> using DHCP now
[03:43] <slashjamiec> Congrats on that!
[03:43] <n33o> thanks slash
[03:43] <slashjamiec> :)
[03:43] <Andeh> Before my head explodes, what is DHCP?
[03:43] <PriceChild> Andeh, open up alsamixer in a terminal and raise the volume of the port
[03:44] <n33o> im running 6.06
[03:44] <PriceChild> Andeh, automatic ip address assignment
[03:44] <Andeh> OK
[03:44] <slashjamiec> Cool
[03:44] <rasputnik> Andeh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhcp
[03:44] <babo> EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
[03:44] <babo> EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[03:44] <babo> Adding 1959920k swap on /dev/sda3.  Priority:-1 extents:1
[03:44] <Andeh> Oh, volume control
[03:44] <n33o> so how do i configure sound. im using onboard on this pc
[03:44] <Andeh> I just turned it up a second ago
[03:44] <babo> is someone mounting something on my computer ? or is that just a normal startup in dmesg ?
[03:44] <slashjamiec> okay, it should automatically pick it up
[03:44] <erUSUL> ubotu tell n33o about sound | n33o see priv msg from ubotu
[03:44] <rasputnik> babo: that's the kernel mounting the disks
[03:45] <mluser-work> Anybody know how I can add gnome applets to my icewm taskbar?
[03:45] <mzanfardino> what utility might one use to encrypt files? gpg?
[03:45] <n33o> hmmm
[03:45] <mluser-work> Sofar the only one I can find is nm-applet
[03:45] <slashjamiec> you will need to install some codes for the mp3's, either i or someone will get you a link.
[03:45] <n33o> slash im going to look to see if it picked it up
[03:45] <iratik> enable full duplex sound?
[03:45] <catxk> how do I autostart (add to session) something that is to be run in terminal, like irssi?
[03:45] <slashjamiec> okay :)
[03:45] <Andeh> As i said earlier, turning up the mic volume slider doesnt change anything. And it is'nt muted either.
[03:46] <rasputnik> catxk: you make a new application launcher, tell it to run irssi as the command and tick 'run in terminal'
[03:46] <predaeus> Andeh, what sound card have you got?
[03:46] <Andeh> No idea, how can i check?
[03:46] <iratik> Andeh:
[03:46] <n33o> Default sound device says SAA7234
[03:46] <iratik> in the mixer -- are you on playback?
[03:46] <n33o> *7134
[03:46] <EkUmBa> hello
[03:46] <babo> rasputnik: why would the kernel be mounting a disk like that ? It's a dedicated remote server ...
[03:46] <rasputnik> catxk: you can have it run irssi everytime you open a terminal too, but that might drive you mad
[03:46] <CorrosionX> Hey everyone, i'm trying to connect via VNC to a headless server. I'm trying to run tightvncserver but I get this error msg: Couldn't start Xtightvnc; trying default font path. Please set correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script. Couldn't start Xtightvnc process.
[03:46] <crimsun> Andeh: have you in fact toggled (selected) an element to Capture?
[03:46] <rmaugusto> hey, I'm using ubuntu edgy and a use keyboard layout cedilha that gives suport to  every time I restart config ubuntu lost the configuration, I have to open Preferences, Keyboard, change keyboard model to Generic 101-key (Intl) PC and after to Generic 105-key (Intl) PC, and it works... any ideia why ubuntu loosing configuration ?
[03:47] <Med-Wei|Sara> Do everyone interest in modifying the theme for another CMS?
[03:47] <Andeh> Capture?
[03:47] <Zic[Laptop] > hello
[03:47] <n33o> It also shows an option for Ensonique PCI sound
[03:47] <iratik> aNdeh : double click on your volume
[03:47] <Andeh> That sounds useful, how do i toggle something to capture?
[03:47] <rasputnik> babo: the kernel mounts the disk so it can read/write from/to it?
[03:47] <EkUmBa> i have some language problem with ubuntu....i have installed a german language version and support,but the  and  don't appear correct
[03:47] <slashjamiec> Cool :)
[03:47] <Zaggynl> since when does ubuntu exist?
[03:47] <Andeh> I am already in alsa mixer
[03:47] <Zic[Laptop] > I have a problem with gnome-panel, since the last update, it refuse to start
[03:47] <brianves> ok,  I feel stupid..  but how is the eq in xmms going to change the balance?  How do I change the balance in the eq?
[03:47] <slashjamiec> it's successfully picked up your sound hardware.
[03:47] <Zic[Laptop] > and bug buddy notice it
[03:47] <crimsun> Andeh: space bar
[03:47] <Med-Wei|Sara> (modifying The ubuntu site theme for another CMS)
[03:47] <slashjamiec> Now, go to your terminal and type: "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad".
[03:47] <Zic[Laptop] > any ideas ?
[03:47] <catxk> rasputnik: ok, thanks, I guess I'll have to make an extra launcher then... where do I put stuff like that? I can't really figure out allt hese folders in my "file system" dir :)
[03:48] <babo> rasputnik: right thanks. I'm wondering why my host is mounting drives to my computer ?
[03:48] <Andeh> Spacebar unlocks the left/right channel sincronisation lock.
[03:48] <iratik> so... (i'm not even sure if your mixer looks the same) --just like in windows. .. you have to switch to record - rather than playback
[03:48] <rasputnik> catxk: do you just want it on your desktop as an icon? i'm assuming that's what you meant
[03:48] <iratik> recording i mean....  you switch to capture ..  - choose the appropriate levels. and make sure capture is enabled
[03:49] <rasputnik> babo: no, look - when your sytem boots, it mounts it's local filesystems. that's what that error is saying. it has nothing to do with network services
[03:49] <Andeh> The only things in capture are Line In
[03:49] <Andeh> Line In is the only option i mean
[03:50] <babo> rasputnik, uname -a should give me the time when the system did it's last reboot right ? I think my host may have taken my system down ...
[03:50] <BrendanM> Help! When I plug in a flash drive it mounts as a "read only file system" it never used to do that. How do I make it mount so I can modify it?
[03:50] <catxk> rasputnik: ah no, I want it to launch when I login... so I go to sys - pref - sessions and add it there, works with GUI stuff like GAIM, but with irssi I get a problem... I guess I could make a launcher and refer to that, but where would I put this icon? (I don't want it on my desktop, don't ask, personal issue :))
[03:50] <iratik> Brendan: some flash drives have a switch that is easy to slip and toggle so the drive can't be written on
[03:50] <babo> BrendanM: mount it with read permissions ...
[03:50] <catxk> add it to start up programs that is
[03:50] <priich> Anyone with experience with xpad.ko ? (I compiled a newer version, insmodded it into my kernel but now i'd like to know if anyone has gotten the rumble feature of the newer xpad.ko to work)
[03:50] <rasputnik> babo: 'uptime'
[03:50] <iratik> i've done that befoer
[03:50] <babo> s/read/write/
[03:50] <predaeus> Andeh, try running alsamixer from a console and switch between it's screens with the tab key. what sound card does alsamixer show in the upper left corner?
[03:51] <Andeh> ALI 5451
[03:51] <rasputnik> catxk: oh, i see. not sure to be honest.
[03:51] <BrendanM> I don't think there's a switch. What's the command to mount it with write permissions?
[03:51] <slashjamiec> $ cat /proc/uptime
[03:51] <Pici> babo: uname -a gives the kernel build time
[03:51] <babo> ah
[03:51] <rasputnik> catxk: (i don't run gnome any more)
[03:51] <Andeh> And the tab key does not switch screens
[03:51] <n33o> says totem could not establish connection to sound server
[03:51] <catxk> rasputnik: ah hehe, ok, thanks though
[03:51] <n33o> when trying to play mp3
[03:51] <babo> rasputnik: hmm ... so someone took my host down, then mounted a sda3 device on it and brought it back up ...
[03:51] <Andeh> Oh, run in terminal
[03:51] <Andeh> i used alt-f2
[03:51] <slashjamiec> n33o: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:51] <Andeh> ok wait a seconds
[03:52] <n33o> slash? any ideas
[03:52] <n33o> ?
[03:52] <babo> Does that seem a little weird, that the host would do something like that without warning ?
[03:52] <slashjamiec> n33o: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:52] <babo> rasputnik, ^^
[03:52] <slashjamiec> And try to play an mp3 in there
[03:52] <rasputnik> babo: no, look - there's nothing odd about that message. /dev/sda3 is the third partition on the local disk. if it wasn't mounted, nothing mould work
[03:52] <aoupi> hi, is there some app that lets me control the volume for individual applications? (like a window with a volume bar for each app)
[03:52] <Andeh> ALI 5451
[03:52] <Andeh> REALTEK ALC203 rev 0
[03:52] <babo> rasputnik, my uptime is only 30 mins
[03:52] <babo> there's something strange about that though ...
[03:52] <Andeh> Ok, so what do i have to do again, im running it in terminal this time
[03:53] <babo> I couldn't take my system down even if i wanted to ..
[03:53] <rasputnik> babo: yes, then it's been rebooted - but nothing odd about the sda3 message per-se. look in /etc/fstab to see where that is mounted.
[03:53] <n33o> says i need to install without verification.
[03:53] <Pici> babo: Perhaps you should contact your hosting provider in this case then
[03:53] <Andeh> OK, never mind, It's WORKING!
[03:53] <Zaggynl> why does the menu in ubuntu dapper take ages to load?
[03:53] <BrendanM> how do I mount the drive with write permissions???
[03:53] <Zaggynl> *click* *hdd grind* *pop*
[03:53] <Andeh> It was audacity's aquard default settings that left the input at 0
[03:53] <slashjamiec> That's weird
[03:53] <slashjamiec> n33o: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:54] <slashjamiec> that will have all your answers to running mp3 files on ubuntu
[03:54] <Andeh> I fixed the input problem, thanks for the help though.
[03:54] <n33o> it does install ... just says cant verify first
[03:54] <babo> rasputnik, what would you do to look for intruders on your system ? I've checked history, netstat and done an nmap scan. Everything seems to be in order.
[03:54] <aoupi> Zaggynl: sounds like your HD was sleeping
[03:54] <n33o> do i wisht to install wihtout verification?
[03:54] <slashjamiec> yep
[03:54] <Zaggynl> hmm
[03:54] <slashjamiec> It just means it's third party repostories.
[03:54] <n33o> oh ok
[03:54] <n33o> ;l-)
[03:54] <slashjamiec> Yeah
[03:54] <slashjamiec> ;)
[03:54] <rasputnik> babo: is the box up to date? do you 'apt-get update/apt-get upgrade' often?
[03:54] <n33o> ;-)
[03:55] <slashjamiec> I'm pretty new to linux myself. But i help out where needed. Only being using it for about a week :)
[03:55] <n33o> ok .. so now its done a bunch of stuff.. does tha mean its fixed?
[03:55] <slashjamiec> Yep!
[03:55] <Zic[Laptop] > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391409&highlight=gnome-panel
[03:55] <slashjamiec> n33o: Did you: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:56] <n33o> I have done apt get for xmms but now hwat?
[03:56] <n33o> *what?
[03:56] <n33o> wondering if that was the problem
[03:56] <slashjamiec> just type "xmms" in the terminal.
[03:56] <n33o> ok
[03:56] <n33o> ;-)
[03:56] <slashjamiec> And open an mp3 file :)
[03:56] <rasputnik> babo: your paranoia does you credit, but as long as you keep everything patched you should only be worrying about things listening on the network
[03:56] <dystopianray> the best way to test sound is $ cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[03:56] <n33o> cool
[03:56] <xNinja> is the new ubuntu beta stable to use or not good yet ?
[03:56] <n33o> how do i create a shortcut to that!
[03:56] <n33o> thaniks
[03:56] <dystopianray> xNinja: the beta is not yet released
[03:57] <quaal> where do i get the hard drive code for grub.. i need to change the setting of a drive since it has moved.. this is the current line in grub for the drive root  (hd2,0)
[03:57] <slashjamiec> n33o: are you using gnome ?
[03:57] <babo> rasputnik: I guess I don't update it as often as I should. I'm adding an update to the crontab as we speak ...
[03:57] <dystopianray> xNinja: and don't consider it 'stable' until the final release in april
[03:57] <n33o> says couldnt open soundcard
[03:57] <n33o> yes am usin gnome
[03:57] <n33o> sound not accessible
[03:57] <nn531> does anyone know why my mailer desklet doesnt come up while my  other ones do?
[03:57] <slashjamiec> Ah, damn
[03:57] <n33o> card isnt accessable
[03:57] <n33o> any ideas?
[03:57] <slashjamiec> Well, i'm not too tech with hardware in ubuntu. Maybe one of these guys could help you out?
[03:57] <rasputnik> babo: no, just do them by hand (about once a week). there's a security advisory mailing list you can sign up to if you want to be told when new fixes are out
[03:58] <babo> rasputnik: why do them by hand ?
[03:58] <Zic[Laptop] > anybody for that : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391409&highlight=gnome-panel ?
[03:58] <viller> where can I find a tutorial for installing Ubuntu (I don't need it myself)
[03:58] <rasputnik> babo: just so you know what changed (for testing etc)
[03:58] <slashjamiec> Can someone help out n33o with installing sound drivers?
[03:58] <babo> rasputnik: the system has come up this time, python-django seems to be parsing php pages all of a sudden, so all my sites are down :-(
[03:59] <babo> I didn't reboot.
[03:59] <n33o> anyone can help with hardware on ubuntu?
[03:59] <n33o> here
[03:59] <n33o> ?
[03:59] <slashjamiec> Sorry n33o.
[03:59] <rasputnik> babo: are you on a VPS?
[03:59] <n33o> ok no prob.
[03:59] <n33o> ;-0
[03:59] <n33o> ;-)
[03:59] <slashjamiec> ;)
[03:59] <brianves> My balance still sucks
[03:59] <rasputnik> n33o: what are you doing ? trying to get a soundcard working?
[03:59] <n33o> yes
[03:59] <n33o> want to get working
[04:00] <babo> rasputnik: I hope not ;-) ... I was on a dedicated server to begin with ...
[04:00] <rasputnik> n33o: what model?
[04:00] <n33o> how do i check what has been detected?
[04:00] <viller> where can I find a tutorial for installing Ubuntu (I don't need it myself)
[04:00] <n33o> I have onboard sound
[04:00] <rasputnik> babo: call your hosting guys up. sounds like they bounced it, so start by shouting at them
[04:01] <babo> hmm
[04:01] <Pici> !install | viller
[04:01] <n33o> find tutorial for installing ubuntu.. try ubuntu.org
[04:01] <ubotu> viller: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate