[07:55] <nalioth> reka: do you know how to build your own ubuntu pkgs?
[07:56] <ksoze> Maybe this is the wrong platform.
[07:56] <nalioth> IIIEars: its all your fault, you tease that poor bot so
[07:56] <ksoze> it does a lot of things very well
[07:56] <pfp> dennis_: self-extracting zip files can be opened with 'zip' or 'unzip'
[07:56] <reka> nalioth: nope.  i haven't written any s/ware...
[07:56] <ksoze> just not this
[07:56] <erb> how can i start/stop network services?
[07:56] <nalioth> reka: no software knowledge needed
[07:56] <dennis_> good to know pfp. thx
[07:56] <IIIEars> nalioth - ubotu likes "encapsulated quotes"
[07:56] <Stargazer> reka: Playing a divx off my cd.. I'm going to try copying the avi to the hard drive.. perhaps it's the cd not having dma enabled or something..  I'm only on a G3 333 powerbook.. so it's not the quickest thing around.
[07:56] <reka> nalioth: uh, i'd assume you would if you're making a package yourself.
[07:56] <anacron> pfp: yeah, but how 'bout exe installs?
[07:57] <reka> Stargazer: yep, DMA is not enabled.
[07:57] <reka> by default on ubuntu
[07:57] <onno> If I install ubuntu or kubuntu on a windows machine. Wil ubuntu resize my harddisk
[07:57] <reka> iirc
[07:57] <nalioth> reka: using "apt-get source -b <pkgname>" you can build your own ubuntu binary (if the proggy you are looking for isnt available as a binary, but the source is
[07:57] <onno> so that windows have a partition and ubuntu
[07:57] <reka> onno: yep, just select the size value of the windows partition and you can resize it.  just make sure you backup your data
[07:57] <anacron> Stargazer: you should enable dma instead copying all your movie files to harddrive :)
[07:58] <nalioth> reka: i run PPC and there are lots of binaries not available for me
[07:58] <reka> onno: the size value in the partitioning stage in ubuntu's install that is.
[07:58] <pfp> anacron: dont know, probably job for wine then
[07:58] <anacron> pfp: yeah, as i said
[07:58] <onno> its on a new computer
[07:58] <reka> reka: see, *you* are the guru on the top of the mountain buddy. :-)
[07:59] <anacron> isn't that a bit weird to say that to yourself
[07:59] <Zzzippo> i must not be burning the linux cds correctly cause they aint booting ;-(
[08:00] <reka> nalioth: : see, *you* are the guru on the top of the mountain buddy. :-)
[08:00] <reka> hehe
[08:00] <reka> anacron: whatchu talkin' 'bout?
[08:01] <Kartagis> is dpkg --ignore-depends=phpmyadmin --instdir=/www a correct syntax
[08:02] <anacron> reka: < reka> reka: <- that
[08:03] <reka> anacron: yes i suppose it was weird wasn't it?
[08:03] <anacron> nah, actually it was somewhat hilarious
[08:03] <IIIEars> Zzzzippo - are you using k3b?
[08:03] <Kartagis> guys, is dpkg --ignore-depends=phpmyadmin --instdir=/www a correct syntax
[08:04] <anacron> reka: it's like faking yourself :D
[08:04] <IIIEars> Zzzzippo - gnomebaker is pretty straightforward
[08:04] <orhs> can anyone help me with installing my WLAN card?
[08:04] <soulfly> anyone know how to build a source package (xorg) with athlon optimization?
[08:05] <reka> anacron: you've never done a typo?
[08:06] <orhs> i got a HP pavilion ze2000
[08:06] <IIIEars> Zzzzippo - if gnomebaker doesn't do it for you i'll buy you lunch. (Is a FAXED flat bread sandwich okay?)
[08:06] <radxx> hmm how do I fix Rhythmbox to play mp3 files? I get the error "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type application/x-id3
[08:06] <ksoze> hrm...
[08:06] <GazaM> go to synaptic and download the gstreamer-mad plugin
[08:06] <radxx> thanks
[08:07] <zenrox> radxx,  read www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:07] <reka> radxx: wiki/RestricedFormats
[08:07] <anacron> reka: well actually i think i make typo's in every english phrase i write
[08:07] <airox> Hi!
[08:07] <anacron> hello!
[08:07] <GazaM> I agree with zenrox, the ubuntuguide.org is great for this type of thing
[08:07] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad
[08:07] <airox> I'm compiling rivatv modules and get an error about wrong GCC version. Would it harm to alter the configure script so it skips this check ?
[08:07] <reka> anacron: well then give me a break please. :-)
[08:08] <anacron> Seveas: why
[08:08] <GazaM> PS, just downloaded vlc, it's far better than totem, mplayer or xine IMO
[08:08] <crimsun> airox: generally a bad idea
[08:08] <Seveas> misinformation, no explanations...
[08:08] <anacron> GazaM: i totally agree
[08:08] <Seveas> and plain errors
[08:08] <airox> Can I paste 4 lines here with the error ?
[08:08] <crimsun> airox: use #flood
[08:08] <GazaM> anacron, what's your opinion on vlc?
[08:08] <mp_> which desktop should one choose with 192Mb RAM - which is lightest, but still useable?
[08:08] <IIIEars> If you get into display trouble or are just stuck at the command line "links" will let you look at ubuntuguide to make things right.
[08:08] <anacron> GazaM: that it's all you need
[08:09] <airox> crimsun: Did you saw it ?
[08:09] <crimsun> airox: you DON'T want to ignore that
[08:09] <GazaM> exactly, it's great
[08:09] <GazaM> ... although the mozilla plugin isn't
[08:09] <airox> crimsun: How would I get it compiled ? Using gcc 3.3.... ?
[08:10] <reka> GazaM: i've heard it's good.  but isn't it gtk1?
[08:10] <wikichipi> hola
[08:10] <GazaM> Guys, in xchat how can I change the colour of my typing... reka, vlc isn't gtk1, i think it's gtk2
[08:10] <reka> mp_: xfce4 is nice.  fluxbox maybe...
[08:10] <wikichipi> hi?
[08:10] <wikichipi> hey
[08:10] <crimsun> airox: correct
[08:11] <reka> GazaM: settings prefs.
[08:11] <wikichipi> there is anyone that can tell me how to install on ubuntu
[08:11] <airox> crimsun: So I should just use the normal GCC that comes with ubuntu ?
[08:11] <GazaM> reka, which setting? I can't change it
[08:11] <wikichipi> ?
[08:11] <mp_> reka: cheers, and wmaker? opinion?
[08:11] <crimsun> airox: no, you should use CC=gcc-3.3 ...
[08:11] <airox> ah oke
[08:11] <GazaM> I've tried
[08:12] <crimsun> airox: familiarise yourself with rivatv's build system and tell it to use gcc-3.3 instead
[08:12] <airox> crimsun: check #flood
[08:12] <reka> interface->colors  (hint: use settings->advanced->textevents to match up the number index with the event you want to change)
[08:12] <reka> mp_: never tried it.
[08:12] <airox> It's the same GCC version now isn't it ?
[08:13] <Kartagis> guys, I want to retrieve a single package to a specific location without retrieving its dependencies. how do I do that?
[08:14] <pfp> Kartagis: you can extract (!= install) packages with dpkg-deb
[08:14] <Seveas> Kartagis, use a browser and go to packages.ubuntu.com
[08:14] <GazaM> Ok I think i did it
[08:14] <GazaM> nope
[08:14] <mp_> reka: ok, thx
[08:15] <GazaM> ok
[08:15] <GazaM> Nope
[08:15] <Kartagis> thanks pfp and Seveas
[08:15] <crimsun> airox: as long as 3.3.5 is used for both, you're fine
[08:15] <anacron> whoa, i seems like my soundservice crashed
[08:16] <anacron> what was the command to kill it?
[08:16] <reka> killall esd
[08:16] <crimsun> you don't need no stinkin sound service anyhow :p
[08:16] <GazaM> Anyone here know how to make gtk1 apps look nicer, I'm using dvd::rip and looking at it is crap
[08:16] <anacron> crimsun: well i'd like to hear something while watching videos
[08:16] <reka> GazaM: did you ask this yesterday?
[08:16] <bob2> GazaM: port it to gtk2
[08:16] <bob2> there's nothing else you can do
[08:17] <GazaM> no
[08:17] <dennis_> can someone tell me how to install linux headers
[08:17] <GazaM> I can't port it to gtk2
[08:17] <reka> GazaM: what bob2 said.  gtk1 apps are ugly.
[08:17] <crimsun> dennis_: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:17] <bob2> GazaM: then you'll have to deal, unfortauntely
[08:17] <bob2> GazaM: or use thoggen, which is awesome
[08:17] <crimsun> anacron: is your player configured to use esd?
[08:17] <GazaM> thoggen? I'll check that out now
[08:17] <bob2> (and gtk2)
[08:18] <bob2> you want to find the mmx-enabled theora libs, tho
[08:18] <dennis_> awesome, thanks crimsun
[08:18] <anacron> crimsun: i don't have any idea, but i think so
[08:19] <crimsun> anacron: which player are you using?
[08:19] <anacron> vlc
[08:19] <anacron> killing esd won't work
[08:19] <anacron> maybe i have to kill it by pid
[08:19] <GazaM> bob2, thoggen seems to use gstreamer, which means that I shouldn't really need a thoggen lib, just the gstreamer plugin
[08:19] <onno> is kubuntu as ready as ubuntu?
[08:19] <reka> onno: i'd say so.
[08:19] <crimsun> anacron: install vlc-esd
[08:19] <GazaM> Love the fact that it uses theora
[08:20] <crimsun> anacron: or if you want to use alsa directly, install vlc-alsa
[08:20] <anacron> onno: i'd say as well that no
[08:20] <GazaM> dvd::rip doesn't support it
[08:20] <bob2> GazaM: yes, I said theora, tho
[08:20] <bob2> which gstreamer uses :)
[08:20] <anacron> crimsun: ok
[08:20] <crimsun> anacron: if you want to use vlc-esd, however, esd will need to be running
[08:20] <reka> onno: same thing underneath, just that kubuntu uses kde instead of gnome
[08:20] <Kartagis> Seveas: do I download .deb or source?
[08:20] <anacron> crimsun: can you tell what advantages i have running with alsa and without?
[08:21] <reka> alsa works. :-P
[08:21] <Seveas> Kartagis, .deb
[08:21] <crimsun> anacron: using alsa directly results in better performance (better a/v sync, lower latency, ...)
[08:21] <onno> reka, anacron why would you say no?
[08:21] <crimsun> anacron: however, using alsa directly requires more configuration by the user
[08:21] <GazaM> bob2, nice recomendation, have you used it a lot?
[08:21] <bob2> GazaM: yes
[08:22] <reka> onno: i never said 'no'.
[08:22] <crimsun> anacron: out of the box, esd works for most things
[08:23] <GazaM> So hows the quality, it's still at version 0.3, does it have any major bugs?
[08:23] <anacron> onno: well i changing some themes i lost my taskbar for an exsample
[08:23] <Seveas> judax_away, please turn that off in this channel
[08:23] <bob2> GazaM: gstreamer does all the encoding, thoggen is just a simple gui wrapper for it
[08:23] <anacron> crimsun: so it goes, use alsa if you can?
[08:23] <GazaM> Yes, I guess you're right
[08:24] <BoD_SWAT> bob2, My Ubuntu doesn't recognize my Pioneer DVD drive, and someone pointed out that you may hold the answer.  my problem is also described on       http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516    (sorry for the pm)
[08:24] <anacron> how can i check out my esd pid?
[08:24] <orhs> what is the command for refreshing the gnome panel?
[08:24] <orhs> reloading*
[08:25] <J0el> how can i write to my ntfs partition?
[08:25] <seth_k> orhs: killall gnome-panel
[08:25] <orhs> seth_k tnx
[08:25] <crimsun> anacron: pgrep esd
[08:25] <reka> J0el: i wouldn't.... not safe afaik
[08:25] <seth_k> J0el: I wouldn't, data corruption is possible
[08:25] <bob2> I'm not going to read the forums at this hour, sorry
[08:25] <seth_k> J0el: if you still want to try, use captive_ntfs
[08:25] <bob2> if you post to the list, I'll try to answer in the morning
[08:25] <r152355g> holaa
[08:25] <bob2> or I'll read that if I remember
[08:26] <J0el> seth_k .. hmm so i guess ill have to convert it back to fat :\
[08:26] <Zzzippo> `
[08:26] <r152355g> hellooooo
[08:26] <anacron> crimsun: that won't do a thing
[08:27] <seth_k> J0el: recommended. No benefits in not using FAT for a windows-linux share partition
[08:27] <crimsun> anacron: then esd isn't running
[08:27] <anacron> crimsun: ok
[08:27] <BoD_SWAT> bob2, my Pioneer dvd reader/writer doesn't work. fstab doens't work and if I do it manually I get "special device hdc does not exist" (btw, which list?)
[08:27] <chombee> I have an IBM laptop and just installed xfce4 on Ubuntu. The keyboard map is all wrong, does anyone know how I can change it? Is there an app out there?
[08:28] <J0el> seth_k i have xp installed on the ntfs part and most of my files are there.
[08:28] <anacron> chombee: loadkeys <keymap you want to load>
[08:29] <J0el> well anyway , is there a way i cud place my home directory some place else like on another drive?
[08:29] <reka> hmmm, how do you scroll the process list in 'top'?  or is that the full list?
[08:29] <anacron> chombee: and you might wan't to change locales too so run dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:29] <BoD_SWAT> J0el, I really don't recommend writing to NTFS. Just write to FAT32 or ext2/ext3/etc. Reading NTFS isn't a problem (doing it here)
[08:29] <J0el> BoD_SWAT, yea i can read too but cant write , thx for the warning though
[08:30] <GazaM> Could someone tell me what colour my text is?
[08:30] <seth_k> J0el, rather than converting the whole partition, just make a share partition so you can swap files back and forth between OSes
[08:30] <reka> GazaM: colour settings are LOCAL.
[08:30] <anacron> GazaM: :)
[08:30] <anacron> "white"
[08:30] <J0el> Seth_k , yea i might just do that ..thx.
[08:31] <seth_k> J0el, or you could use explore2fs
[08:31] <GazaM> So how come your text is red?
[08:31] <GazaM> Mines just grey
[08:31] <seth_k> J0el, it's a windows program that lets you r/w ext2, ro ext3
[08:31] <reka> seth_k: explore2fs is useful. but could be better.
[08:31] <J0el> seth_k yea ill try that.
[08:31] <seth_k> reka, agreed. I wish it were a driver layer
[08:31] <seth_k> rather than a standalone program
[08:31] <anacron> GazaM: it's local as reka said
[08:32] <reka> i wish it could copy directories :-/
[08:32] <GazaM> ok, doesn't matter anyway
[08:32] <anacron> then why are you asking?
[08:32] <seth_k> reka, still worth a shot if you can't set up a fat partition
[08:32] <GazaM> Because It's a bit annoying that my text is grey
[08:32] <GazaM> I'd rather it be full black
[08:33] <GazaM> But it's a trivial problem
[08:33] <reka> seth_k: true.  just thought i'd vent as i had to copy a lot of files over and hadn't worked out how to use tar and gzip yet. :-)
[08:33] <anacron> GazaM: well we can't say what colour your text is, since we all have our own settings
[08:33] <anacron> except if you use mirc colors
[08:33] <GazaM> I understand that, settings are LOCAL
[08:33] <forsaker8k6> a question: i'm running a 64bit ubuntu system. If i want to compile as a 32 bit application, what can i do?
[08:33] <ksoze> ok, one more ask:
[08:34] <forsaker8k6> *if i want to compile a source
[08:34] <ksoze> any sound recording package that "just works" without much fiddling?
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> forsaker8k6 : cross-compile.. but... a chroot is easier
[08:34] <GazaM> KDE or GNOME, which one is better in peoples opinions?
[08:34] <lsuactiafner> ie, install a 32bit system somewhere and chroot to it
[08:34] <anacron> i support gnome
[08:34] <Burgundavia> GazaM, whatever is better for you. I prefer Gnome
[08:34] <seth_k> GazaM: go to #kubuntu and ask again :D
[08:34] <anacron> but that's just opinion
[08:34] <GazaM> I'm new to linux and use gnome cos of ubuntu, but kde looks very nice
[08:34] <ksoze> I'm a GNOME fan
[08:34] <GazaM> But at the same time I really like gnome
[08:34] <forsaker8k6> ok understood tnx a lot
[08:35] <GazaM> Think I'll stick with gnome
[08:35] <GazaM> Very clean
[08:35] <forsaker8k6> wow another GNOME vs KDE pre-flame
[08:35] <anacron> GazaM: i thought also that kde looks better at first, but now it actually looks worse
[08:35] <radxx> I used Gnome for the first time about 5 years ago and at that time KDE was better, now it's changed and Gnome seems a lot better imo
[08:35] <GazaM> pre-flame? It's just a question
[08:35] <ksoze> but I really want to record my guitar...
[08:35] <forsaker8k6> but we are on #ubuntu.. here we are all gnomist
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> blackbox > all
[08:35] <ksoze> and I'm finding that very..."frontier" territory on ubuntu
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> actually
[08:35] <anacron> forsaker8k6: yeah right :D
[08:35] <reb> hey... im having a problem with upgrading to breezy that im not able to fix on my own
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> blackbox < all.. and thats a good thing
[08:35] <reka> lsuactiafner: that's interesting.  i would have guessed that 32bit apps would work, they just wouldn't make full use of the h/ware.
[08:35] <J0el> GazaM, Gnome looks gr8.
[08:36] <GazaM> ok, but people don't need to have a flame war just cos i asked which people liked
[08:36] <J0el> kde looks messy.. and evrything is named k k  k k  k
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> reka : yeh, i run 32bit appz no problem
[08:36] <reka> lsuactiafner: : sort of like an agp8x card in a 4x slot
[08:36] <forsaker8k6> you should try enlughtenment
[08:36] <forsaker8k6> enlightenment
[08:36] <anacron> GazaM: well it's like you ask if nintendo or playstation is better?
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu has thee best emulation of all distros as i understand
[08:36] <GazaM> yeah, i noticed... konquerer, kontact
[08:36] <GazaM> etc
[08:36] <forsaker8k6> it's cool and e17 looks even better
[08:36] <radxx> J0el: yeah, it's Krap ;)
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> enligh' has too many menus ect
[08:36] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  not necessarily, a lot of Kubuntuists hang on out on this channel as well (such as myself) :-)
[08:36] <lsuactiafner> i like plain simple fast interface
[08:36] <GazaM> anacroni like both
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> i only use firefox in the gui
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> am in console...
[08:37] <J0el> yea atleast the naming in Gnome is much sensible.
[08:37] <ksoze> ok, how about this: favorite jukebox app, anyone?
[08:37] <forsaker8k6> what wm are you using lsuactiafner
[08:37] <forsaker8k6> ?
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> mp3blaster (;
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> forsaker8k6 : blackbox
[08:37] <chombee> uhhh. I dunno what to do here. Is there any way to get GNOME to tell me what layout it uses and then set xfce to the same thing?
[08:37] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  however I won't be startin' a flame war about which is better :)
[08:37] <ksoze> I'm using FLAC encoding, not mp3, if it matters
[08:38] <forsaker8k6> firasR, i was just joking :P
[08:38] <anacron> chombee: what do you mean by layout?
[08:38] <forsaker8k6> because GNOME vs KDE is one of the most debated topics on the web i think
[08:38] <anacron> chombee: system -> pref -> themes
[08:38] <J0el> In the live cd when you boot you get to seen an image as the loading screen ,how do i add it to my currently installed system?
[08:38] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  just teasin' back my friend :>
[08:38] <chombee> anacron - the map of which keys cause which characters to appear. Locale. I dunno
[08:38] <forsaker8k6> :)
[08:38] <reka> chombee: US-keyboard?
[08:38] <J0el> do i have to mess with grub there?
[08:39] <chombee> reka - yeah I guess, but its an IBM one
[08:39] <ksoze> so are there other linux distros with better "just works" sound recording?
[08:39] <GazaM> Is anyone here using ubuntu as a first linux distro like myself>
[08:39] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  i can't count how many times i've jumped back and forth between KDE & Gnome
[08:39] <goldfish> GazaM: Yes.
[08:39] <ksoze> I am really hoping to use one box as a nice home demo recording thing - need not be pro-level stuff, but I don't want to spend a ton of time fidgeting with it, either
[08:40] <ksoze> Gazam: first in a long time, although I also have a Fedora box
[08:40] <ksoze> installed both on two machines simultaneously
[08:40] <GazaM> Goldfish and ksoze what do you think of linux so far?
[08:40] <ksoze> I like it, but it still has some "it doesn't matter if you have to tinker a ton, becase we assume that's fun" culture that does nothing for me
[08:40] <forsaker8k6> firasR, i always used Gnome indeed
[08:41] <forsaker8k6> i tryed KDE some time ago.. but i don't liked it
[08:41] <GazaM> ksoze, I agree slightly, but I do like tinkering with config files and the terminal
[08:41] <forsaker8k6> as someone said: too many K
[08:41] <GazaM> It's a learning experience
[08:41] <kano_> hi, i installed nvidia binary drivers + transset
[08:41] <goldfish> GazaM: It rocks.
[08:41] <kano_> should this work with gnome or not?
[08:42] <goldfish> kano_: got xcompmgr?
[08:42] <lxuser> hi every one
[08:42] <reka> ksoze: yeah, having to tweak is annoying, but it's getting better and other benefits outweigh staying with windows
[08:42] <GazaM> goldfish: I agree completely
[08:42] <goldfish> you need xcompmgr to work transset kano_
[08:42] <ksoze> reka: apaprently, not when it comes to sound
[08:42] <ksoze> as I've found that to be a real PITA
[08:42] <lxuser> im from Nicaragua
[08:42] <lxuser> and i need to add some packages to my ubuntu
[08:42] <goldfish> kano_: there is a howto on ubuntuforums.org , search for "compositing"
[08:42] <kano_> ok, that was missing
[08:43] <goldfish> :)
[08:43] <GazaM> I still can't believe that I am getting 1000% more functionality from a free OS than Windows
[08:43] <ksoze> And since it doesn't appear to be the interest of many people here or on the forums, no one really has any answers for me
[08:43] <goldfish> GazaM: ofc, linux rocks.
[08:43] <ksoze> which isn't their fault, of course
[08:43] <ksoze> but has me seriously considering switching OSes
[08:43] <ksoze> as I really do need this to just work
[08:43] <goldfish> lxuser: what packages?
[08:43] <anacron> heh
[08:43] <anacron> finaly i got my sounds back
[08:44] <ksoze> sound works fine...
[08:44] <ksoze> but...
[08:44] <reka> ksoze: so it's sound recording you're trying to fix?
[08:44] <goldfish> ksoze: macs rock for audio stuff, producing etc...
[08:44] <ksoze> No good recording packages do
[08:44] <anacron> vlc was running in somewhere backround stealing soundservice
[08:44] <GazaM> ksoze, have you tried audacity?
[08:44] <ksoze> goldfish: I have no money for another machine
[08:44] <firasR> forsaker8k6:  funny coincidence, they just started a why do u think kde is better at #kubuntu discussion :) hehe
[08:44] <lxuser> java
[08:44] <goldfish> ksoze: ah :/
[08:44] <ksoze> Gazam: it won't play nice with esd
[08:44] <lxuser> java runtime enviroment
[08:44] <ksoze> goldfish: and honestly, I did tons more sound work under Windows
[08:44] <forsaker8k6> firasR, stralol
[08:45] <GazaM> have you tried the guides on ubuntuforums, they worked for me
[08:45] <goldfish> lxuser: www.ubuntuguide.org
[08:45] <geetergod> Whoever can get my sound working, i will give them money :)
[08:45] <GazaM> just make sure you don't have music playing cos audacity uses oss
[08:45] <ksoze> GazaM: well, I'm avoiding that.  Like I said, I was drawnt o ubuntu for "just works" ability
[08:45] <ksoze> and I want both jukebox and recording on the same machine
[08:45] <reka> goldfish: i'd recommend this instead for java install: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php
[08:45] <asew34> im stuck at 25% at install at the "configuring apt"...im sure you've all been asked, but i cant fix it, can someone please help me?
[08:45] <ksoze> I am trying to make this a unified music box
[08:45] <reka> apparently the ubguide steps suck
[08:45] <GazaM> the guide will allow you to use oss emulation in alsa, trust me the guides not hard, just copy and paste stuff
[08:46] <lxuser> there's alist of packages?
[08:46] <geetergod> reka, is there a way i can just reset everything? even if i lose my stuff? ide do it
[08:46] <airox> Where is the modules.conf in ubuntu ?
[08:46] <crimsun> lxuser: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:46] <ksoze> GazaM: but I can't play music then?
[08:46] <crimsun> airox: don't use modules.conf, it's deprecated
[08:46] <reka> geetergod: did you try that ubguide fix?
[08:46] <GazaM> ksoze, you can, just not when recording from mic
[08:46] <reka> lxuser: http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php
[08:46] <ksoze> what do I have to do?
[08:46] <ksoze> I mean, is it configure every time I switch?
[08:46] <geetergod> reka, i cant seem to get it to work
[08:46] <J0el> how do I set up a graphical bootscreen in ubuntu?
[08:46] <ksoze> because that won't work
[08:47] <GazaM> ksoze, you only have to configure once
[08:47] <reka> geetergod: you followed the steps?
[08:47] <J0el> like the one the live cd has
[08:47] <GazaM> go to the ubuntuforums.org
[08:47] <ksoze> I did
[08:47] <asew34> can someone help me with the install of ubuntu?
[08:47] <geetergod> reka, i lost the link
[08:47] <GazaM> asew34
[08:47] <GazaM> I have that aswell
[08:47] <asew34> were u able to fix it?
[08:47] <GazaM> I'll tell you how to fix it
[08:47] <reka> asew34: how long have you waited? i've seen 3 cases where it starts up again after ~15mins
[08:48] <seth_k> J0el, you want a bootsplash, or a graphical grub menu?
[08:48] <reka> geetergod: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[08:48] <reka> ksoze: that might be helpful if you're desperate
[08:48] <GazaM> At the setup user step, press back before you do it and go straight to install boot loader step
[08:48] <J0el> seth_k, a bootsplash .. if thats what its called.
[08:48] <lxuser> may i program with gambas or anjuta or QtDesign
[08:48] <J0el> not a grub menu.
[08:48] <seth_k> J0el, check out Splashy
[08:48] <GazaM> after reboot it will ask you to insert cd, it will say it's not a ubuntu cd, just select http
[08:49] <GazaM> then you can setup user and all
[08:49] <seth_k> J0el, http://wiki.nanofreesoft.org/index.php/Splashy
[08:49] <J0el> seth_k, its a package?
[08:49] <asew34> i tried that
[08:49] <GazaM> worked for me
[08:49] <J0el> seth_k, hrm k.
[08:49] <ksoze> reka: I guess I'm confused.  If the sound is bad, why is it in the distrib?
[08:49] <seth_k> J0el, there are sources there to add to your sources.list
[08:49] <asew34> but i need to configure PPPoe for my internet to use http?
[08:49] <seth_k> J0el, then apt-get install splashy
[08:49] <Amaranth> http://www.realistanew.com/dsc_097.jpg <--iowa is fun!
[08:50] <J0el> seth_k,  k ill try that. thx.
[08:51] <reka> ksoze: i agree, sound needs work.  but those instructions should fix problems with multiple apps using sound, something you might be having trouble with.
[08:52] <amonkey> at the console, how can i find out the current throughput of eth0?
[08:52] <nalioth> reka are we compiling the world now?'
[08:52] <lxuser>  may i program with gambas or anjuta or QtDesign?
[08:52] <Amaranth> yeah, you can use those
[08:52] <Amaranth> you can just use gedit or vim too
[08:52] <ksoze> reka: my main problem is simply that no recording app works
[08:52] <ksoze> audacity hates esd
[08:52] <reka> nalioth: hehe no.  i'm marvelling at the number of people with sound problems
[08:53] <ksoze> but killing esd every time I want to record seems no fun
[08:53] <crimsun> ksoze: that's being addressed for breezy
[08:53] <reka> thank god
[08:53] <ksoze> I sure hope so
[08:54] <ksoze> I mean, sound is what this box is for, first and foremost
[08:54] <ksoze> but breezy is about wht, 4 months away?
[08:54] <JDahl> lxuser, for small programs, there's probably not much gained by using Anjute etc. - it takes time to understand and appreciate a complicated IDE
[08:54] <nalioth> reka: ya send a distro out where the sound daemon is precocious, and this is what happens
[08:54] <Pithlit> guys... how do I add a module to boot ?
[08:54] <lxuser> so whats your advice
[08:55] <ksoze> hrm
[08:55] <smallfoot-> when is cd shipped?
[08:55] <ksoze> I have no idea what to do here
[08:55] <crimsun> ksoze: you could configure all your apps to use alsa directly, for instance
[08:55] <ksoze> I really don't want to nuke the install, but music is pretty important to me
[08:55] <Burgundavia> ksoze, breezy is going to be released in Oct, so yes
[08:55] <HappyFool> Pithlit: not sure what you mean, but you can add it to /etc/modules if you just want it to be loaded during boot
[08:55] <JDahl> lxuser, use a simple editor, e.g., gedit, and compile programs directly with gcc
[08:55] <reka> nalioth: i've lost count of the number of times i've directed people to ubguides soundfix and telling them to change the output plugin in xmms
[08:55] <crimsun> ksoze: then configure gstreamer-properties to use alsa as the default audio sink
[08:55] <Pithlit> HappyFool: you understood me
[08:55] <Pithlit> thanks
[08:55] <ksoze> ugh
[08:55] <crimsun> ksoze: it's really not a big step
[08:56] <ksoze> I'm your target demographics, folks.  I have no idea how to do what you're talking about
[08:56] <ksoze> and when breezy arrives, will I need to undo it?
[08:56] <crimsun> ksoze: no, you won't need to undo it when breezy is installed/upgraded onto your machine
[08:56] <lxuser> im talkin about real appliactions with db like programing with visual basic
[08:56] <crimsun> there are how-tos on the forum and on ubuntuguide if you wish to read them
[08:57] <nalioth> reka: me too, hopefully there is a more responsible daemon in breezy
[08:57] <ksoze> what are they listed under?
[08:57] <reka> ksoze: you do realise that part of using linux is the fiddly stuff?  which can be either good or bad depending on the person.
[08:57] <dulouz> hi folks, question about uninstalling something. Rythmbox that comes with Ubuntu uses GStreamer. I want to use Xine, which means building from source. If i select Rhythmbox to uninstall it says it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop as well. ubuntu-desktop says it's safe to uninstall but recommends not to. so would it be better to uninstall Rhythmbox and ubuntu-desktop, or just build Rhythmbox from source and install to someplace like
[08:57] <dulouz> /usr/local/share?
[08:57] <crimsun> I'm happy to walk you through the process, but I need to grab lunch after talking with my manager
[08:57] <ksoze> reka: well, like I said, I was drawn by the "just works" mantra
[08:57] <ksoze> I guess I underestimated the fiddling angle
[08:57] <rZr> is there a package to make appear disk volume on desktop ?
[08:57] <ksoze> I have a lot of stuff that I want to do, and I don't want the time cut into by fiddling
[08:58] <ksoze> crimsun: don't worry about it, but thanks
[08:58] <nalioth> ksoze: if you don't want to fiddle, use <ugh> linspire
[08:58] <smallfoot-> please when my ubnutu cd come in my home??
[08:59] <smallfoot-> i order it many many time long ago before!!
[08:59] <reka> ksoze: i understand.  what can i say? it's a sales pitch ... but compared to other distros, ubuntu's support is great.  i mean people are willing to help you out in here are they not? crimsun for one.
[08:59] <ksoze> nalioth: even I know better than that
[08:59] <ksoze> reka: no, I agree.  I guess I'm just a little crankier than I shoudl be.
[08:59] <lxuser> im talkin about real appliactions with db like programing with visual basic
[08:59] <ksoze> I had the wrong set of expectations
[08:59] <slept>  is there a way to create the initrd image  for the precompiled kernels ?
[08:59] <thenuke> Help! "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcairo/libcairo1_0.3.0-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch.  E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?"
[09:00] <ksoze> I suggest they change the sales pitch :)
[09:00] <crimsun> thenuke: known issue: don't use us. or ca.
[09:00] <crimsun> thenuke: any other mirror should be fine
[09:00] <Mez> hmm
[09:00] <HappyFool> lxuser: you can try gambas -- it's supposed to be visual-basic like, and it's in Hoary's universe repository
[09:00] <JDahl> lxuser, I probably missed part of your question... are you asking how to develop DB applications under Linux?
[09:00] <Mez> I really ought to like - resize windows or something
[09:00] <Mez> but it's such a pain in the arse to do
[09:00] <Mez> it hates me doing it
[09:00] <reka> ksoze: or put one of those fine print things: "may require fiddling" :-]
[09:01] <thenuke> crimsun: so to what I change those US?
[09:01] <HappyFool> lxuser: or you can try python, which is a similar level of language, and also has DB interfaces
[09:01] <Mez> I'm very tempted to delete it all together.
[09:01] <ksoze> reka: then you're no better than the commercial weenies.  :)
[09:01] <Mez> but i know I'd kick myself for it
[09:01] <thenuke> crimsun: I live in europe/Finland
[09:01] <RzR> is there a package to make appear disk volume on desktop ?
[09:01] <J0el> Is there any software i could use a remote control for xawtv?
[09:01] <reka> ksoze: take that back! :-)
[09:01] <Stargazer> Anyone know what might be causing white shimmering pixels all over my videos when watching them..I'm using 5.04 PPC on a G3.. I switched colour depths from 24 to 16 with no luck..
[09:02] <HappyFool> RzR: my impression is that usb sticks / cd-roms / etc already do that
[09:02] <JDahl> lxuser, HappyFool, there's even a Delphi version for Linux, isn't there?
[09:02] <Stargazer> Also my mouse sometimes leaves behind pixel garbage when moving it.
[09:02] <HappyFool> RzR: for hard drive partitions, you can just create shortcuts (or launchers, or whatever they're called), i imagine
[09:02] <J0el> or just one that would acept commands from my remote controller ? .
[09:02] <HappyFool> JDahl: yeah, kylix i think
[09:02] <ksoze> reka: sorry
[09:02] <HappyFool> JDahl: that's more pascal though -- slightly lower level than vb / python, i would've thought
[09:02] <ksoze> reka: so is there a jukebox app that fits the "just works" criterion?
[09:03] <Ubuntian> to create "/mnt/blabla" as an empty mount point, can I just "sudo mkdir /mnt/blabla ?
[09:03] <crimsun> thenuke: try archive in sweden
[09:03] <onno> Would you install ubuntu or kubuntu or mandrake for some one who nows nothing of GNU/Linux?
[09:03] <seth_k> Ubuntian: yep
[09:03] <Ubuntian> thanks
[09:03] <HappyFool> ksoze: sorry to come into the conversation late, but what's a jukebox app ? something different from rhythmbox / xmms, i take it?
[09:03] <ksoze> crimsun: I don't need a walk-through, but where is the article?
[09:03] <Seveas> onno, newbies should not use mandrake :)
[09:03] <thenuke> crimsun: ookey, thank you
[09:03] <reka> ksoze: beep-media-player
[09:04] <JDahl> HappyFool, he was asking for VB :-)
[09:04] <ksoze> HappyFool: something that will take a big colelction of FLAC-encoded songs and play them for me in whatever order
[09:04] <onno> why not mandrak?
[09:04] <nalioth> Seveas: not only to stay away from the RPM hell, either
[09:04] <Ubuntian> true mandriva was my first distro and i still have nightmares about it
[09:04] <penguinparty> anyone know how to search on the "notes" field in the thunderbird address book?
[09:04] <seth_k> ksoze: beep-media-player, rhythmbox, amaroK if you're on kubuntu
[09:04] <ksoze> JDahl: no I wasn't.  That was someone else.  :)
[09:04] <Seveas> mandrake is much more difficult than ubuntu
[09:04] <HappyFool> ksoze: err, dunno what flac is, but rhythmbox plays my mp3 collection just fine. i would guess if there's a flac gstreamer library it should work
[09:04] <Seveas> rpm hell indeed
[09:04] <slept> Seveas, there is no rea
[09:04] <slept> sorry
[09:04] <ksoze> HappyFool: lossless codec.  I am not an MP3 fan
[09:05] <nalioth> onno: different linux distros use differnet packaging methods for their software
[09:05] <Seveas> flac is good, very good
[09:05] <seth_k> ksoze: gstreamer0.8-flac is the lib you need
[09:05] <ksoze> seht_k/reka: looks like I'll try beep
[09:05] <reka> ksoze:actually, you'll need to fiddle with bmp as well: you might have to change the output plugin from the default "oss"
[09:05] <reka> :-)
[09:05] <ksoze> good lord
[09:05] <Grim76> Quick question:  I am doing apt-get install for several packages, and I keep getting md5sum errors on some packages is everyone getting that or am I using the wrong mirrors?
[09:05] <HappyFool> ksoze: well, try gstreamer0.8-flac and rhythmbox
[09:05] <seth_k> grim76: us and ca mirrors are wack
[09:05] <nalioth> onno: mandrake uses the RPM system, which provides valuable linux lessons (the diffecult, curse filled lessons)
[09:05] <seth_k> grim76: use archive.ubuntu.com for now
[09:06] <nalioth> Grim76: lots of md5 errors the last couple days
[09:06] <HappyFool> ksoze: use synaptic to install the flac library; rhythmbox is already installed with ubuntu
[09:06] <nalioth> Grim76: i don't know why
[09:06] <Seveas> nalioth, very valuable lessons in how not to design a packaging system
[09:06] <ksoze> I need to approach this when I have a lot more patience.
[09:06] <Ubuntian> guys you know what?
[09:06] <Ubuntian> NFS works!
[09:06] <slept> Seveas,  got the wrong key wated to press  delete not enter after I read "not" which I missed the first time
[09:06] <Mez> wewt! ?
[09:06] <Ubuntian> o my godness i'm so happy
[09:06] <onno> but would you give gnome or kde?
[09:06] <nalioth> Seveas: mandrake and redhat taught me a lot about linux
[09:06] <seth_k> grim76: us and ca mirrors were down for about 1h15m yesterday
[09:06] <ksoze> happyfool: where is rhythmbox?
[09:06] <seth_k> grim76: don't know why
[09:06] <Mez> calm down ubuntian - you dont wanna dirty your keyboard
[09:06] <seth_k> ksoze: might be preinstalled and called "Music Player"
[09:06] <Ubuntian> lol
[09:06] <reka> ksoze: it's already installed
[09:06] <HappyFool> ksoze: Applications -> Sound and video -> Music Player
[09:07] <Seveas> seth_k, / Grim76 us and ca still give errors
[09:07] <ksoze> ahh...Music Player
[09:07] <nalioth> Seveas: a lot of "use debian instead" lessons
[09:07] <Grim76> seth_k, ok thanks I appreciate it.  I will work my sources.list over.
[09:07] <HappyFool> ksoze: sorry, i guess i could've called it 'Music Player' ;)
[09:07] <Seveas> it's known and worked on
[09:07] <ksoze> I assumed that was just some basic thing
[09:07] <Mez> seth_k
[09:07] <reka> ksoze: another thing to worry about: double labelling for the same program
[09:07] <Mez> is that who i think it is?
[09:07] <reka> :-)
[09:07] <lxuser> o yeah Kylix i mean
[09:07] <seth_k> seveas, what was the cause?
[09:07] <lxuser> but its supported by Ubuntu
[09:07] <lxuser> ???
[09:07] <Seveas> seth_k, ENOIDEA
[09:07] <J0el> How can i set shortcut keys to specific operations like ctrl+x for 3ddesktop?
[09:07] <seth_k> no touchee
[09:07] <seth_k> :P
[09:08] <J0el> or any other operation.
[09:08] <onno> What do you think is better for an older person who is new to GNU/Linux Gnome or KDE?
[09:08] <ksoze> reka: heh
[09:08] <ksoze> same old linux :)
[09:08] <Seveas> onno, Gnome, definitely gnome
[09:08] <ksoze> I haven't had my own linux box since 1998
[09:08] <Seveas> gnome is clear, easy and not easy to mess up
[09:08] <onno> ok I install gnome then
[09:08] <ksoze> the more things change...
[09:08] <ksoze> :)
[09:08] <Seveas> KDE is over-configurable and very easy to create a mess with
[09:08] <sniper_> french here?
[09:08] <nalioth> onno: KDE is more familiar if you are coming from windoze, and gnome is more after the macOS look
[09:08] <Seveas> sniper_, #ubuntu-fr
[09:09] <sniper_> ok
[09:09] <sniper_> thx
[09:09] <nalioth> sniper_: #ubuntu-fr
[09:09] <dulouz> onno: i had been using KDE running on SuSE for the last year. Ubuntu + Gnome seems a lot less troublesome for a simple desktop
[09:09] <ksoze> it looks like Sound Juicer can encode FLAC by default...
[09:09] <ksoze> but Music Player can't play FLAC?
[09:09] <seth_k> ksoze: did you install gstreamer0.8-flac ?
[09:09] <reka> nalioth: Seveas is fast isn't he?
[09:10] <ksoze> seth_k: not consciously, no :)
[09:10] <HappyFool> lxuser: it doesn't look like kylix is in the ubuntu repositories; you may need to install it by other means
[09:10] <ksoze> I'll check adn see if it's there
[09:10] <Seveas> HappyFool, iirc the licensing of kylix makes a .deb package impossible
[09:11] <ksoze> seth_k: yeah, it's installed.  It must have come along for th ride when I brought down Audacity and ardour to try out.
[09:11] <HappyFool> Seveas: their loss
[09:11] <Seveas> HappyFool, indeed
[09:11] <RzR> HappyFool: .. and what about adding entries to fstab ?
[09:12] <RzR> HappyFool: this requiere "advanced" unix skills :)
[09:12] <Seveas> *gasp* just cleaned out a 2-month backlog of bills :)
[09:12] <HappyFool> RzR: sorry, a little more context? What do you want to do ?
[09:12] <lxuser> i had installed Kylix in SuSE and think there is nothing different from one distro to another, isnt it?
[09:12] <Seveas> some companies will now stop sending letters :)
[09:12] <HappyFool> lxuser: how did you install it in suse?
[09:12] <nalioth> RzR: iirc, adding to sources.list takes a simple text editor
[09:12] <RzR> HappyFool: i hoped a noob can access his windows drives through his desktop
[09:13] <CarlFK> lxuser - Kylix is sitll alive?!
[09:13] <seth_k> RzR: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[09:13] <onno> ok I'm installing ubuntu for this person!
[09:13] <HappyFool> RzR: you can easily cause youe windows partitions to be mounted (ie., made available) on boot
[09:13] <CarlFK> lxuser - I checked it out a few years ago - looked pretty cool
[09:13] <HappyFool> RzR: then you just need to create desktop launchers for the partitions
[09:14] <HappyFool> RzR: note that NTFS is read-only from linux
[09:14] <RzR> well i know how to do that
[09:14] <ksoze> ok, so I'm FLAC encoding a CD now, and we'll see if rhythmbox works
[09:14] <RzR> but a n00b will not handle to RTFM and lunch an editor
[09:14] <ksoze> if so, that's a big positive
[09:14] <HappyFool> RzR: ok, what's the question? You want to know what the fstab line is?
[09:14] <RzR> no
[09:14] <nalioth> onno: you are a good person
[09:14] <RzR> I know how to fix it
[09:15] <ksoze> if it plays, I'll be more willing to compromise on recording for a little while.
[09:15] <HappyFool> RzR: you're saying it should automagically happen for the benefit of those who can't edit fstab?
[09:15] <RzR> but a newbee complains about that
[09:15] <RzR> HappyFool: exactly
[09:15] <raz> I want to uninstall mplayer, but the Add/Remove never loads. Is there a way to do it using the terminal?
[09:15] <onno> On this computer ther is one windows, fresh install... How do I repartition it so that 40 GB and 40 GB ubuntu is
[09:15] <seth_k> raz: sudo aptitude remove mplayer-386
[09:16] <nalioth> raz: sudo apt-get remove mplayer
[09:16] <Seveas> remove --purge that is :)
[09:16] <flodine> ok guys tried everything but ubuntu wont take my screen resolution now what
[09:16] <HappyFool> RzR: hrm. maybe. it's not entirely simple -- in some situations (for security/privacy) one might not want that to happen
[09:16] <RzR> question 2 reported : what to install to using totem to read divx (or any weird codec)
[09:16] <seth_k> Seveas: if using aptitude, use simply aptitude purge and not aptitude remove --purge
[09:16] <ksoze> flodine: what everything did you try?
[09:16] <RzR> HappyFool: that's what i thought too , but u know what i mean
[09:16] <Seveas> seth_k, indeed :)
[09:16] <flodine> everything google offered
[09:16] <ksoze> including editing xorg.conf?
[09:17] <flodine> edit shit all day
[09:17] <flodine> still no dice
[09:17] <onno> On this computer ther is one windows, fresh install... How do I repartition it so that 40 GB and 40 GB ubuntu is
[09:17] <ksoze> well it's hard for me to know the deal, if you know what I mean
[09:17] <lxuser> ./install_fg
[09:17] <lxuser> jejeje
[09:17] <HappyFool> RzR: a utility to do that would be useful. i'm afraid i don't have enough desire to write it though ;)
[09:17] <RzR> same here :)
[09:18] <CarlFK> lxuser - Kylix is sitll alive?!
[09:18] <lxuser> but your rigth its a little old
[09:18] <nalioth> onno: is the windows install NTFS?
[09:18] <RzR> fdisk -l | sed | awk > /etc/fstab :)
[09:18] <lxuser> its alive cause its still in the Borland Site
[09:19] <flodine> is there anyone in here on 1900x1200 that can help me get this befora i format ubuntu
[09:19] <ksoze> 1900x1200?
[09:19] <ksoze> wide screen?
[09:19] <onno> nalioth, yes
[09:19] <flodine> yes
[09:19] <Seveas> RzR, excellent idea!
[09:19] <Seveas> i'm gonna write one now
[09:19] <onno> what should I choise for repartition?
[09:19] <raz> Want to uninstall Mplayer. Did not install it with Synaptics. Followed guide to 'make' it. Any easy way to remove it from the system?
[09:19] <ksoze> what monitor and video card?
[09:20] <onno> isn't ntfs a proble?
[09:20] <nalioth> onno: then unless you want to reinstall windoze, you'll need partition magic to move partitions
[09:20] <whimsy> onno: the safest solution for you is to use partition magic
[09:20] <seth_k> raz, ohhhh, you built it from source
[09:20] <CarlFK> lxuser - how may other people do you know that are using it? (know personaly or even just know of)
[09:20] <nalioth> onno: if you know you are installing windoze into a dual boot machine, install windoze as fat32 filesystem
[09:20] <flodine> ksoze nvidia geforce 6200 and a dell 2405fpw 24 inch
[09:21] <seth_k> raz: if you still have your source dir available, you might try sudo make uninstall
[09:21] <geetergod> Is there someone in here that can help me with my sound?
[09:21] <catgermany> hi
[09:21] <nalioth> raz: you should check out "checkinstall" for future compiling projects
[09:21] <ksoze> flodine: and you've included all of the resolutions in the xorg.conf?
[09:21] <catgermany> anybody can help me?
[09:21] <nalioth> raz: it makes debs so as to keep track of what all is installed
[09:21] <ksoze> catgermany: depends.  what's the issue?
[09:22] <catgermany> today i bought a DVD Writer LG
[09:22] <flodine> yes
[09:22] <Stargazer> Ok.. Sound and video play in Totem for divx but the video is alwfully jumpy.. Now in VLC the video is smooth, but no sound will play.. what needs to be done?
[09:22] <seth_k> raz: to use checkinstall, simply replace "sudo make install" with "sudo checkinstall" after installing the checkinstall package
[09:22] <catgermany> it's extern und with usb
[09:22] <flodine> ksoze yes sir
[09:22] <ksoze> hrm...
[09:22] <geetergod> anyone that can help me with my sound it'd be greatly appreciated
[09:23] <catgermany> and wenn i want to copy with k3b
[09:23] <flodine> ksoze it on goes to 1600x1200
[09:23] <seth_k> geetergod, what issue are you having?
[09:23] <ksoze> but did you add in 1900x1200?
[09:23] <geetergod> seth_k, my sound is gone
[09:23] <catgermany> i have this error
[09:23] <flodine> ksoze even if i include 1900x1200
[09:23] <geetergod> seth_k, its acting like theres something else open is why the sound wont work
[09:23] <catgermany> input/output error.Not necessarily serious
[09:23] <geetergod> seth_k, ive tried just about everything there is to try
[09:24] <ksoze> flodine: then maybe someone else here knows better.  I troubleshot my own video problem witht eh xorg.conf
[09:24] <ivoks> doh!
[09:24] <ivoks> is here anyone from backports team?!
[09:24] <Memedhi_sawah> ono seng iso boso jowo raaaaaaaaaa
[09:24] <seth_k> poke Mez, he makes backports
[09:24] <flodine> dont trip ksoze headed back to suse 9.3 it works there
[09:24] <ivoks> seth_k: thanks
[09:24] <Memedhi_sawah> kok gak ada nick cew yaaa
[09:25] <Mez> ivoks, I make backports, but not part of the team
[09:25] <catgermany> my dmesg is
[09:25] <ivoks> ok
[09:25] <ksoze> No tripping here
[09:25] <ivoks> where can team be contacted?
[09:25] <ksoze> I am fairly new to ubuntu
[09:25] <lxuser> Well in Nicaragua just a little group
[09:25] <catgermany> usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[09:25] <catgermany> scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[09:25] <catgermany> usb-storage: device found at 4
[09:25] <catgermany> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[09:25] <catgermany>   Vendor: HL-DT-ST  Model: DVDRAM GSA-5163D  Rev: A102
[09:25] <catgermany>   Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 00
[09:25] <catgermany> sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[09:25] <catgermany> Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[09:25] <ksoze> just trying to help out, since others here have helped me
[09:25] <catgermany> Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 5
[09:25] <catgermany> usb-storage: device scan complete
[09:25] <Stargazer> How does one get vlc to play mp3's?
[09:26] <catgermany> anybody can help me?
[09:26] <lxuser> really little maybe all are in the National University of Engeenerin
[09:26] <Memedhi_sawah> someone can help mee...
[09:26] <Jormundgand> Stargazer: gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:26] <nalioth> Stargazer: did you not see ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats   ?
[09:27] <nalioth> Stargazer: this question was answered earlier for you
[09:29] <JDahl> lxuser, maybe Python, as happyfool suggested, would be worth checking out...
[09:29] <HappyFool> JDahl: is it good cop / bad cop night? ;-)
[09:29] <BurgerMann> Hi. Does anyone know how to change the charset in MySQL?
[09:30] <nalioth> HappyFool: good cop? is there such a thing?
[09:30] <JDahl> HappyFool, hehe... it sure looks like it :P
[09:30] <lxuser> ok i will try it
[09:30] <Seveas> catgermany, do not paste in here
[09:30] <lxuser> do you know LinEX
[09:31] <lxuser> its a Spanish Distro
[09:31] <BurgerMann> Hmn, Does anyone know anyone who knows how to change charset in MySQL?
[09:31] <HappyFool> BurgerMann: tried #mysql ?
[09:31] <BurgerMann> HappyFool, trying atm
[09:32] <nalioth> BurgerMann: if anyone knows, they will answer. give it a few minutes tween the same question
[09:32] <crimsun> ksoze: I don't think there's an "article," but ubuntuguide has the steps
[09:32] <seth_k> burgermann: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/charset-conversion.html
[09:33] <raz> my "add/remove progs" window doesn't show the apps.. keeps the mouse busy.. any ideas?
[09:33] <nalioth> raz: use synaptic
[09:33] <nalioth> raz: the "add/remove' is kinda limited
[09:33] <seth_k> burgermann: basically use ALTER TABLE `foo` MODIFY COLUMN `thiscolumn` CHARACTER SET `mynewset`
[09:33] <raz> nalioth, aighty.. but it aint normal, is it..?
[09:34] <BurgerMann> Oh
[09:34] <sladen> hi lxuser.  The next version of LinEx will be based on Ubuntu
[09:34] <BurgerMann> seth_k, thanx =D
[09:34] <nalioth> raz: i've never had any luck with the add/remove thing
[09:34] <RzR> Seveas: knoppix provide a such script
[09:35] <lxuser> it will be super because Ubuntu install in auto but LinEX its imposible to start the gdm
[09:35] <Seveas> RzR, mine is almost finished alreasy, it is easier for me to create one than to loke it up
[09:35] <Seveas> look*
[09:35] <ksoze> crimsun: ok
[09:35] <ksoze> well, on the positive, the jukebox stuff works beautifully
[09:36] <concept10> Why does synaptic and apt keep reminding me: Warning: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  whats up with people not sigining these packages?
[09:36] <RzR> Seveas: keep in touch if you release it :)
[09:36] <ksoze> so all I really need to troubleshoot is recording
[09:36] <nalioth> concept10: they're lazy?
[09:36] <ksoze> and then I can throw in a huge hard disk and start ripping.  :)
[09:36] <HappyFool> concept10: are they ubuntu (main, restricted, uni- or multiverse) packages ?
[09:37] <concept10> Ubuntu is nice, I might be staying with this distro - I need to install development packages though. I love the fast boot
[09:37] <ksoze> I now have three boxes
[09:37] <ksoze> one ubuntu, one fedora, onw windows.
[09:38] <ksoze> one, even
[09:38] <concept10> HappyFool, Im not sure yet.  Im trying to get a understanding of Ubuntu's repositories
[09:38] <lxuser> im agree with concept10
[09:38] <mic_> Ubuntu is my first foray into linux and so far I am really liking it with one little issue
[09:38] <nalioth> ksoze: so you meant to say you had 2 boxes and one doorstop, yes?
[09:38] <concept10> Whats your issue?
[09:38] <ksoze> nalioth: hey, I need wireless on one,  Don't get me started :)
[09:38] <lxuser> i got in my PC suse, ubuntu and XP
[09:39] <ksoze> mic_: sound?
[09:39] <mic_> I have linksys wireless pci card and ubuntu loses the settings when I reboot
[09:39] <concept10> hmm...
[09:39] <ksoze> ahh...wireless
[09:39] <HappyFool> concept10: the ubuntu packages *should* all be signed, afaik
[09:39] <lxuser> mmm i have no experiences with wireless :(
[09:39] <concept10> It must be the last repo on the list (backports?)
[09:39] <mic_> rt2500 is the chipset,I followed the instructions from ubuntuguide.org but still lose the settings on reboot
[09:39] <ksoze> nalioth: also, sound recording works on the Windows box :)
[09:40] <slept> how can you ssh to the livecd ? ssh ubuntu@ip doesn't work (without password) :(
[09:40] <nalioth> ksoze: it works on my OSX boxen, too, and i'm not wading in #*R#ER)$ while using it
[09:40] <crimsun> ksoze: start by describing what sound chipset you have
[09:40] <nalioth> slept: don't thing sshd is running on the livecd
[09:40] <ksoze> crimsun: It's not that complex.  The issue is just that audacity doesn't like esd
[09:40] <HappyFool> concept10: possibly. i'm not sure
[09:40] <ksoze> if a package did, it'd be no biggie
[09:41] <concept10> Everything just works with Ubuntu right out the box, very good for desktop use. Printer setup 3 secs.  Now I have to try getting this wireless working
[09:41] <ksoze> otherwise, I have to get audacity to use something else
[09:41] <ksoze> nalioth: granted - just have no Mac budget
[09:41] <slept> nalioth, oh should have thought about that
[09:41] <concept10> I just hope Ubuntu will be around for awhile
[09:41] <ksoze> I can play sounds just fine - just got done doing fun stuff with the Music Player
[09:42] <mic_> wireless on my laptop worked straight off it's the desktop card that's giving me trouble
[09:42] <nalioth> ksoze: they're $499 msrp (means they're cheaper if you can find them)
[09:42] <concept10> Oh, question: Does anyone have the problem where Firefox reports the wrong version #?
[09:42] <ksoze> nalitoh: a price without a monitor isn't a price.  :)
[09:42] <ksoze> and mind you, I'm no Mac hater
[09:42] <geetergod> Can someone help me with my sound, i think i can show you the problem
[09:42] <ksoze> I used to have a PowerBook for years
[09:43] <nalioth> concept10: fix it using about:config in the url box. change the vendorsub line to 1.0.4
[09:43] <geetergod> and you'd understand it more than me
[09:43] <ksoze> I just aon't going out to buy a machie to replace a functioning machine for some sort of loyalty oath :)
[09:43] <nalioth> ksoze: that price is a bargain. you use your doorstop in front of an actual door once you buy a mac mini
[09:44] <ksoze> oh please
[09:44] <ksoze> I'm not doing it, so you can turn off the advocacy script.  :)
[09:44] <ksoze> I have nothing against macs.  Just don't have any reason to spend money ona  new system.
[09:44] <geetergod> Can i message someone and show them what it says when i type esd in root?
[09:44] <ksoze> if I could switch to OSX on an existing box, I would
[09:44] <nalioth> more business
[09:45] <ksoze> Apple doesn't let me do that, so there ya go
[09:45] <crimsun> ksoze: what is your default_options line in /etc/esound/esd.conf?
[09:46] <geetergod> can anyone explain something to me?
[09:46] <kengur> depends
[09:46] <concept10> nalioth_wrkn, are they going to release a official package for that or just wait to the next firefox release?
[09:46] <HappyFool> geetergod: try asking specific questions in channel
[09:47] <ksoze> crimsun: empty
[09:47] <ksoze> default_options=
[09:47] <ksoze> that's it
[09:47] <geetergod> Happyfool, when i type esd in root i get a message but might be a little big for here
[09:47] <schuma> holaaa buenas
[09:47] <geetergod> and my sounds not working and it might be saying why
[09:47] <schuma> hi.!.
[09:47] <crimsun> ksoze: the parameters for spawn_options should be copied to default_options
[09:47] <HappyFool> geetergod: put it up on a pastebin, e.g., http://rafb.net/paste/
[09:47] <geetergod> k
[09:47] <HappyFool> geetergod: then paste the url here
[09:48] <crimsun> ksoze: then try restarting esd
[09:48] <schuma> i speakin spanish
[09:48] <ksoze> crimsun: is this for audacity to work?
[09:48] <HappyFool> geetergod: i'm not a sound guru (mine Just Works (TM) ) but i'll take a look
[09:48] <crimsun> ksoze: it's an attempt to see if esd will in fact release /dev/dsp, which would allow audacity to use it
[09:48] <nobile> schuma, hola
[09:48] <geetergod> http://pastebin.com/299029
[09:48] <ksoze> gotcha
[09:48] <geetergod> there ya be
[09:48] <schuma> hola nobile..
[09:48] <vicks> it seems like i don't have a cups server running. what is the exact way to check if it's running?
[09:49] <schuma> nobile: tngo problema al instalar el desklest
[09:49] <HappyFool> geetergod: ok, looks like esd is already running
[09:49] <nobile> si necesitas ayuda en espanol, busca #ubuntu-es
[09:49] <nobile> =)
[09:49] <geetergod> Happyfool, i dont know where esd is running though
[09:49] <HappyFool> geetergod: try 'pgrep esd' and see if you get a respone
[09:49] <slept> Got a big  problem : kernel-panic : not syncing : VFS : unable to mount rootfs . It's the second kernel I tried both are precompiled - any ideas ?
[09:49] <nobile> =P
[09:49] <ksoze> crimsun: best esd restart method?
[09:49] <geetergod> happyfool, no response, should i type it in root?
[09:49] <HappyFool> geetergod: you should see a number, probably in the thousands (i get 6956)
[09:50] <HappyFool> geetergod: no, you don't have to be root, i don't think
[09:50] <HappyFool> geetergod: hm
[09:50] <geetergod> k
[09:50] <geetergod> happyfool, i get no response then
[09:50] <HappyFool> that means that esd probably *isn't* running
[09:50] <crimsun> ksoze: easiest is probably ,,pkill esd'' then restarting it manually (from Terminal)
[09:50] <konrad> Hi, I need wuick answer - what is default linux-headers after Ubuntu installation?
[09:50] <ksoze> but when I restart it form terminal, it never exits...
[09:50] <crimsun> konrad: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:50] <konrad> or another - apt-get comman will be nice :)
[09:50] <crimsun> ksoze: esd &
[09:50] <ksoze> ok
[09:51] <ksoze> ok, restarted
[09:51] <konrad> crimsun: thanks
[09:51] <ksoze> now let's see what audacity thinks
[09:51] <HappyFool> geetergod: i'm not sure how to clean this up, but i would guess erasing that socket ought to do it
[09:51] <Stargazer> Is there a graphic gui for mplayer under Ubuntu to download from one of the repositories?
[09:51] <HappyFool> geetergod: try 'rm /tmp/.esd/socket'
[09:51] <geetergod> happyfool, thats what i was thinking
[09:51] <ksoze> oooh.
[09:52] <ksoze> no complaints yet
[09:52] <geetergod> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/.esd/socket': No such file or directory
[09:52] <ksoze> crimsun: ok, that was pretty cool  :)
[09:52] <geetergod> should i do it in root?
[09:52] <ksoze> now let's see if this works.
[09:52] <HappyFool> geetergod: try it as normal user first
[09:52] <geetergod> i did
[09:52] <geetergod> still cant :(
[09:52] <HappyFool> ok, try with sudo
[09:53] <HappyFool> do you have multiple users ?
[09:53] <geetergod> i did
[09:53] <HappyFool> and.. ?
[09:53] <geetergod> Happyfool, i dont believe so, im the only user on this computer
[09:53] <geetergod> happyfool, wont work with sudo either
[09:53] <HappyFool> geetergod: what's the error message ?
[09:53] <ivoks> bye
[09:54] <nickrud> hey, ivoks, before you go, thanks for the glimpse of e17
[09:54] <geetergod> Happyfool, in root it does nothing at all
[09:54] <HappyFool> ?
[09:54] <geetergod> maybe it actually erased it
[09:54] <raz> Installed mplayer throu synaptics. Is there any way I could *not* use the skin-based version? Just normal GUI ?
[09:54] <Rickie> Hey
[09:54] <HappyFool> no message should mean it worked
[09:54] <Rickie> How can i make my scroll wheel scroll faster in Ubuntu?
[09:54] <geetergod> root@cpe-66-24-86-121:/home/geetergod # rm /tmp/.esd/socket
[09:54] <geetergod> rm: cannot remove `/tmp/.esd/socket': No such file or directory
[09:54] <HappyFool> oh
[09:55] <geetergod> Happyfool, thats what it says when i do it in root
[09:55] <HappyFool> well, then it's removed ;)
[09:55] <HappyFool> try starting esd (but not as root -- just as a normal user)
[09:55] <geetergod> happyfool, you make me happy... fool :)
[09:55] <HappyFool> ;)
[09:55] <airox> Hi :)
[09:56] <geetergod> http://pastebin.com/299035
[09:56] <geetergod> Happyfool, thats what i get
[09:56] <Strife> anyone know if there's some configuration file for alsa where I can set the default volume for everything on startup?
[09:56] <Rickie> How can i make my scroll wheel scroll faster in Ubuntu? < Anyone?
[09:56] <crimsun> geetergod: when you reboot, /tmp should be cleared
[09:56] <Strife> (I have a laptop, so basically I want it to be muted by default)
[09:57] <ksoze> hrm...doesn't seem to hear now
[09:57] <Rickie> sorry for repeating, but it can't be that hard :p
[09:57] <ksoze> I'll have to mess with it more later
[09:57] <geetergod> crimsun, ive rebooted a lot, never seems to work still
[09:57] <avild001> hi
[09:57] <crimsun> Strife: mute it before shutting down, and the settings are saved on shutdown and restored on (re)boot
[09:57] <concept10> Rickie, move you finger faster
[09:57] <Rickie> lol
[09:57] <Rickie> seriously..
[09:57] <kengur> Strife, why don't u save your gnome session?
[09:57] <Strife> crimsun: that's what I had thought, but that did not occur
[09:57] <avild001> hi rickie
[09:58] <concept10> Rickie, seriously there is a setting somewhere
[09:58] <ksoze> crimsun: thanks again.  looks like I'm getting closer.
[09:58] <Strife> kengur: that does nothing for the sounds that occur before gnome is loaded :p
[09:58] <avild001> I'm from Chile
[09:58] <avild001> South America
[09:58] <Rickie> concept10: Well i kinda guessed, but telling me where would help ;)
[09:58] <ksoze> now I just need audacity to hear
[09:58] <Strife> althought, now that I think about it...
[09:58] <kengur> Strife, what? your HDD making creepy sounds? =)
[09:58] <Strife> it's possible that it was only the headphone volume that wasn't muted... strangely enough, master volume isn't controlling my headphone volume
[09:59] <Strife> I have no idea why that is, though...
[09:59] <Strife> that seems even stranger
[09:59] <Rickie> Thanks man
[09:59] <geetergod> Happyfool, any idears?
[09:59] <crimsun> Strife: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[09:59] <crimsun> Strife: make sure it's configured to save settings on shutdown
[09:59] <HappyFool> geetergod: sorry, no. a bit over my head.
[10:00] <kalias> Hi can some someone answer a program install question?  When I tried to install a program it couldn't find everything in the repository.  How do I get around this?
[10:00] <ksoze> got it
[10:00] <geetergod> happyfool, if theres a way to just reboot linux so everything goes back to default i would, even if i lose everything
[10:00] <Strife> crimsun: thanks
[10:00] <crimsun> geetergod: lsattr /tmp/.esd/socket
[10:00] <ksoze> input volume was hosed
[10:00] <ksoze> OK< now I'm cooking
[10:00] <ksoze> cri8msun: many thanks
[10:00] <crimsun> np
[10:00] <Strife> that still leads to the next question, why doesn't my master volume control the headphone volume?
[10:00] <geetergod> crimsun, lsattr: No such file or directory while trying to stat /tmp/.esd/socket
[10:00] <ksoze> one line edit is not too much tweaking to ask
[10:00] <ksoze> :)
[10:00] <crimsun> Strife: there's a logical separation between the master and its slave controls
[10:01] <crimsun> geetergod: ls -a /tmp/.esd
[10:01] <nickrud> hey, kalias
[10:01] <geetergod> ls: /tmp/.esd: No such file or directory
[10:01] <kalias> nickrud: hey man :)  How is life?
[10:01] <crimsun> geetergod: are you using an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc ?
[10:01] <nickrud> good overall, but I'm tied to the desk again thisafternoon
[10:01] <Strife> crimsun: ... a logical separation between "master volume" and every other volume???
[10:01] <Strife> that's not logical at all
[10:01] <Strife> I expect master volume to make EVERYTHING go up or down
[10:01] <Strife> hence the term master
[10:02] <geetergod> crimsun im not sure, i though ~/.asoundrc but maybe not
[10:02] <geetergod> thought*
[10:02] <nickrud> kalias if you're getting a package from the repository, there should be any unfulfilled dependencies
[10:02] <concept10> Rickie, sorry I forgot where that is. I checked gconf also
[10:02] <nickrud> what are you installing?
[10:02] <nickrud> *shouldn't
[10:02] <Rickie> No problem man
[10:02] <ksoze> ok, now I'll stick around a while and see if I can be of use to someone else at some point  :)
[10:03] <kalias> nickrud:  I get the following: W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib+png2/gdk-imlib1_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[10:03] <kalias>   MD5Sum mismatch
[10:03] <crimsun> Strife: no, master is separate, as in a master safety. You wouldn't expect a master control to toggle everything, would you? For instance, many chipsets simply do not have capability in hardware to have both analog and spdif output simultaneously. Would it even make sense then to allow a Master setting to control both? I think not.
[10:03] <nickrud> kalias it was in the topic yesterday that us was down, it must still be. try a different mirror in your sources.list
[10:03] <crimsun> kalias: use another mirror, like se.
[10:04] <kalias> nickrud: how do I redirect?
[10:04] <Strife> crimsun: ok, well at the very least, I want master volume to control my volume output regardless of what I am using :P
[10:04] <Strife> eveyrthing else I have ever used has just worked
[10:04] <seth_k> kalias: us and ca are messed, use http://archive.ubuntu.com or another mirror
[10:04] <seth_k> kalias: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:04] <Strife> I don't know why alsa on ubuntu doesn't do that properly
[10:04] <seth_k> remove the us.
[10:04] <Howitzer> Is there a way that i can make a little server(on this pc)and that i can choose what folders can be acessed en when the server is up?
[10:04] <nickrud> in /etc/sources.list, replace us with another country, or just remove it (us.)
[10:04] <crimsun> Strife: then you want to script it to use amixer to set both headphone and master
[10:04] <Seveas> Howitzer, sure
[10:04] <geetergod> crimsun, should i try anything else?
[10:04] <kalias> okay, I will give it a go.
[10:04] <mp_> erhm, how to install a .deb from cmd line (like rpm -Ivh package.rpm) w/ apt ??
[10:04] <Seveas> mp_, dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:05] <Turoq> i have ubuntu 5.04 and framebuffer is my problem, how can i disable framebuffer from starting when my kernel boots up?
[10:05] <mp_> hehe ;(
[10:05] <crimsun> geetergod: did you check for the existence of either/both?
[10:05] <Howitzer> Seveas, what program would i need then?(very lightweight and low on resources)
[10:05] <mp_> ups ;)
[10:05] <mp_> Seveas: i am happy ;)
[10:05] <Seveas> Howitzer, depends on the protocol you need
[10:05] <mp_> thx
[10:05] <Howitzer> ehh
[10:05] <geetergod> crimsun, im looking but i dont know where exactly to look
[10:05] <Seveas> ftp/http/windows filesharing...
[10:05] <Howitzer> hmm
[10:05] <Howitzer> tp
[10:05] <Howitzer> Ftp
[10:05] <xolotl_> Can anyone give me some input on why my sound card might not work?  Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev. 04)
[10:05] <Howitzer> but also http :x
[10:06] <Seveas> Howitzer, vsftpd and apache2 then
[10:06] <Howitzer> but more ftp based
[10:06] <CKonT900> ms0000:02:0c.0 0280: 14e4:4320 (rev 02)
[10:06] <CKonT900> g CarlFK
[10:07] <kalias> which of the http addresses do I replace?  All of them?
[10:08] <nickrud> kalias yes
[10:08] <geetergod> crimsun, i dont know which one im using
[10:09] <xolotl_> Does anyone have any experience with Audigy cards?
[10:09] <seth_k> xolotl_ I have an Audigy 2 ZS
[10:09] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre1.tar.gz  	149 KB  	05/03/05  	17:04:00
[10:09] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz 	150 KB 	12/03/05 	22:53:00
[10:09] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz.asc 	1 KB 	12/03/05 	23:03:00
[10:09] <Howitzer> which do i need? :/
[10:09] <crimsun> geetergod: which exists
[10:09] <Seveas> Howitzer, use apt-get...
[10:10] <crimsun> Howitzer: just get the version in main
[10:10] <Howitzer> oh
[10:10] <Seveas> and please do not paste in here
[10:10] <crimsun> sudo aptitude install vsftpd
[10:10] <crimsun> xolotl_: sure, what's up?
[10:10] <Howitzer> i always forget apt >_
[10:10] <Davey> How is it that the Google search box in FF support ctrl+shift+arrow keys, but the location box will not?! :/
[10:10] <seth_k> Howitzer: apt is your friend, use it :)
[10:10] <Howitzer> i know :D
[10:11] <geetergod> crimsun, i dont know , says i have no audio output available
[10:11] <pepsi> wooo.. ive got breezy working... 59 packages that i cant upgrade..
[10:11] <pepsi> i avoided anything that would install x-common, cause i think thats when x starts complainging about fonts
[10:11] <seth_k> pepsi: it's not hard to fix the font issues
[10:11] <Howitzer> wth
[10:11] <crimsun> geetergod: no, it's as simple as ls /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc
[10:12] <seth_k> pepsi: I'm running a fully upgraded Breezy
[10:12] <Howitzer> i can't find the Resolution tab in FluxBox :/
[10:12] <pepsi> seth_k, how is that possible? some packages are completely broken
[10:13] <seth_k> pepsi: true, I do have some that are simply uninstalled
[10:13] <geetergod> /etc/asound.conf does nothin and ~/.asoundrc says no such file or directory
[10:13] <seth_k> pepsi: but none held back
[10:13] <xolotl_> crimsun: I was just in winblows about 1 hour ago - decided to try Ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 8300.  so, I start up, most things seem OK, but I get /no/ sound what so ever - not even if I do a # cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp (etc.)
[10:13] <Howitzer> i don't get any sound either
[10:13] <geetergod> crimsun... wait a sec..
[10:13] <crimsun> geetergod: did you list them?
[10:13] <geetergod> crimsun. geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ ls ~/.asoundrc
[10:13] <geetergod> /home/geetergod/.asoundrc
[10:13] <crimsun> hah!
[10:14] <crimsun> toldya
[10:14] <xolotl_> crimsun: yes, everything works properly under winblows.
[10:14] <geetergod> crimsun, yes you're good, i suck, you're king, im a dweeb :)
[10:14] <xolotl_> howitzer: what kind of sound card are you using?
[10:14] <crimsun> xolotl_: that's expected. Paste the output of amixer onto pastebin.com
[10:14] <Howitzer> onboard one
[10:14] <nalioth> geetergod: please
[10:14] <crimsun> you just need to unmute one mixer element.
[10:14] <Howitzer> Via **97
[10:14] <geetergod> nalioth haha
[10:14] <Howitzer> oh wait
[10:14] <Howitzer> my dad said i have to use alsamixer
[10:15] <xolotl_> crimsun: ? pastebin.com?
[10:15] <geetergod> crimsun, and that mixer element is what?
[10:15] <pepsi> seth_k, what about mozilla-firefox?
[10:15] <crimsun> geetergod: that was directed to xolotl_
[10:15] <geetergod> crimsun, ok sorry
[10:15] <Kano_Ubuntu> hi, did someone else have systemlocks with 2.6.11-k7 kernel?
[10:15] <crimsun> geetergod: please paste the contents of ~/.asoundrc onto pastebin
[10:15] <crimsun> xolotl_: http://pastebin.com
[10:15] <Howitzer> how do i use the search function in apt?
[10:15] <seth_k> xolotl_ please see http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=329208
[10:15] <Kano_Ubuntu> with installed nvidia 7664 it locks up when gnome is starting
[10:15] <Howitzer> apt-cache?
[10:15] <Howitzer> apt-cache?
[10:15] <seth_k> xolotl_ I helped someone with your card last week and they were running Ubuntu too
[10:15] <Howitzer> oh
[10:16] <Howitzer> srry :x
[10:16] <ksoze> ok...now firefox doesn't work
[10:16] <seth_k> pepsi: the package is now called firefox in Breezy
[10:16] <ksoze> connection?  doubt it
[10:16] <xolotl_> seth_k: thanks
[10:16] <geetergod> crimsun, i type ~/.asoundrc into terminal and get /home/geetergod/.asoundrc
[10:16] <ksoze> but time to reboot to be sure
[10:16] <nalioth> Howitzer: apt-cache search (and run apt-cache --help for more)
[10:16] <seth_k> pepsi: not mozilla-firefox. firefox provides -> mozilla-firefox
[10:16] <xolotl_> crimsun: will try seth_k's suggestion first - if not...  brb
[10:16] <Kano_Ubuntu> i know that 2.6.11 can run fine....
[10:16] <Howitzer> i''m in the apt-cache man nd its damn confusing :x
[10:16] <crimsun> xolotl_: that's the precise resolution
[10:16] <pepsi> seth_k, but firefox wants to remove mozilla-firefox, which barfs when trying to be removed
[10:17] <Kano_Ubuntu> have it running usually
[10:17] <seth_k> pepsi: really? maybe try uninstalling mozilla-firefox first?
[10:17] <pepsi> ok
[10:17] <crimsun> geetergod: no, cat ~/.asoundrc (but don't paste here; use pastebin.com instead)
[10:17] <Kano_Ubuntu> someone should enable /proc/config.gz kernel option
[10:17] <nalioth> Howitzer: easier using the --help
[10:17] <geetergod> k
[10:17] <Cirus_hxc> hola!
[10:18] <Kano_Ubuntu> and disable IO_APIC
[10:18] <geetergod> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/299050
[10:18] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: why? Don't you have a /boot/config-$(uname -r)?
[10:18] <kalias> nickrud:  I updated the sources list and tried to rerun synaptic.  I get the following:  E: I wasn't able to locate file for the gdk-imlib1 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.
[10:18] <kalias> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[10:18] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, yes, but that other way is better
[10:19] <Kano_Ubuntu> just a tiny option
[10:19] <Howitzer> if they made windows more like linux, i would've bothered asking a cd rom the neighbour and reformat, but hey!
[10:19] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: because it's in ram instead of on secondary storage?
[10:19] <jseattle> nalioth i am trying to reach you here
[10:20] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, because it is quite common that way.
[10:20] <jseattle> nalioth...call 713-501-....
[10:20] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre1.tar.gz  	149 KB  	05/03/05  	17:04:00
[10:20] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz 	150 KB 	12/03/05 	22:53:00
[10:20] <Howitzer> File: vsftpd-2.0.3pre2.tar.gz.asc 	1 KB 	12/03/05 	23:03:00
[10:20] <crimsun> geetergod: wow, your ~/.asoundrc is useless
[10:20] <Howitzer> i've done apt-get update
[10:20] <geetergod> crimsun, hm the sound was working last night
[10:20] <ksoze> crimsun: bad news
[10:20] <crimsun> geetergod: you could get by without having ~/.asoundrc at all, since the contents of that file are precisely default
[10:20] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: file a bug against linux then.
[10:20] <geetergod> crimsun, all i want is my sound back, thats all, whatever it takes
[10:21] <ksoze> crimsun: after making that sound change and using the sound apps for a while, Firefox stopped working (wouldn't run), and now the box won't reboot (I'm typing from another machine
[10:21] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: bugzilla.u.c
[10:21] <ksoze> just hag son Sending processes the TERM signal
[10:21] <ksoze> so I'm gonna hard reboot the thing
[10:21] <xolotl_> crimson seth_k: that wasn't the same card.  I don't have the same options in alsamixer.
[10:21] <nickrud> kalias, wait one, please
[10:21] <crimsun> ksoze: ok
[10:21] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, i wont use ubuntu for long time, i just adopted my nvidia script for it
[10:21] <crimsun> xolotl_: then paste your amixer output onto pastebin.com
[10:22] <ksoze> three finger solute appears to have done the trick
[10:22] <kalias> nickru: no worries.
[10:22] <Kano_Ubuntu> because i wanted to add xorg support
[10:22] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: that's fine, I know you have your own distro
[10:22] <kalias> nickrud: no worries :)
[10:22] <nalioth> my fan club reaches from all directions
[10:22] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, just wanted to tell you some things to improve, i dont file bug reports for u.
[10:22] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: but if you want to actually contribute and hopefully make a change, then file a bug.
[10:22] <ramphis02> Hello, I want to know about How long it takes that Ubuntu Company can send me my CDs of Ubuntu.
[10:22] <geetergod> crimsun, is there a way i can just get my sound back?
[10:22] <seth_k> xolotl_ okay ^_^ crimsun's turn
[10:22] <ksoze> now sitting at stopping cupsd
[10:22] <nalioth> jseattle: are you here?
[10:23] <crimsun> Kano_Ubuntu: don't whine uselessly. Be proactive.
[10:23] <nickrud> kalias, I just rebooted into breezy (I do that now and then when someone say's it's still working) and have to look around
[10:23] <Kano_Ubuntu> crimsun, if i wanted to use it, i would instlal my own kernel
[10:23] <ksoze> man...this thing is indeed shuttign down, but godawful slowly
[10:23] <nickrud> kalias, gdk-imlib1 isn't in hoary, according to packages.ubuntu.com, so, what extra repositories to you have :)
[10:24] <Kano_Ubuntu> so will wipe it out now
[10:24] <Kano_Ubuntu> bye
[10:24] <kalias> nickrud:  ooh, good question. I think I have universe.
[10:24] <nickrud> kalias, no, thats a good section, how about pasting your sources into pastebin.com
[10:25] <xolotl_> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/299056
[10:25] <kalias> nickrud: Where would I find the sources?
[10:25] <dogfoodbrain> Le franais est-il parl dedans ici ?
[10:25] <ksoze> I strongly adocate the end of the "it just works" manta.  :)  It sets people up with unrealistic expectations.  :)
[10:25] <kalias> nickrud: you mean from sources.list?
[10:25] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: il faut utiliser #ubuntu-fr
[10:26] <nickrud> kalias, yeah :)
[10:26] <geetergod> crimsun, anyway i can just get my sound back?
[10:26] <crimsun> geetergod: will you be patient please? Thanks.
[10:26] <kalias> nickrud: sure I can do that.  I just go to pastbin.com and put them there?
[10:26] <geetergod> crimsun, sorry
[10:26] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: peut-tre il y en a quelques-uns, mais #ubuntu-fr, c'est meilleur
[10:26] <nickrud> kalias, yeah, then paste the link here
[10:27] <crimsun> xolotl_: quite a few of your mixer elements are unmuted, which presents a problem
[10:27] <ksoze> ugh...I may have to unplug this thing
[10:27] <ksoze> it is non-responsive to the power button
[10:27] <crimsun> xolotl_: it will take me a couple minutes to compile a list of changes you need to make; hang on.
[10:27] <seth_k> ksoze: hold power btn for 5 seconds
[10:27] <nalioth> ksoze: really really unresponsive?
[10:27] <xolotl_> crimsun: most of them were muted to start - still no sound
[10:27] <ksoze> seth_k: that worked
[10:27] <seth_k> hammer!
[10:27] <Howitzer> what does the command 'sh' do?
[10:27] <ramphis02> Hello, I want to know about How long it takes that Ubuntu Company can send me my CDs of Ubuntu.
[10:27] <seth_k> Howitzer: sh runs a shell script
[10:28] <Howitzer> oh
[10:28] <nalioth> Howitzer: starts a sh shell
[10:28] <kalias> nickrud: okay done.  Look for kalias.
[10:28] <ramphis02> Who knows ?
[10:28] <crimsun> geetergod: the first thing I recommend you do is move ~/.asoundrc out of the way
[10:28] <ksoze> "it mostly works"  that's actually still cool
[10:28] <seth_k> lol
[10:28] <crimsun> ramphis02: hoary? anywhere from a few weeks to a few months.
[10:28] <nalioth> ramphis02: they'll be there when they get there, if you're in a hurry, find a university or linux users group and get some burnt copies
[10:28] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, merci. I nettoient mes oreilles avec mes pieds.
[10:28] <geetergod> crimsun, remove it or move?
[10:28] <kalias> nickrud:  Crumbs I am learning alot from you guys :)))
[10:28] <crimsun> geetergod: move
[10:28] <nickrud> kalias, after you clicked send, your location bar will have pastbin.com/<some numbers> that's the link I need
[10:28] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain, bonne chance ^_^
[10:29] <ksoze> well, it restarted just fine
[10:29] <ramphis02> Nalioth and crimsu, Thank u
[10:29] <ksoze> so I'm guessing it'll be ok until I try any more esd acrobatics
[10:29] <Howitzer> i'm going to try ET i think
[10:29] <geetergod> crimsun, whats the move command?
[10:29] <Doonz> hey guy is there a friendly way to add hdds
[10:29] <seth_k> geetergod: mv
[10:29] <seth_k> Doonz: you want to mount another partition?
[10:30] <Doonz> well
[10:30] <Doonz> basically i have 4 hdds all on a controller card
[10:30] <kalias> nickrud: 299058
[10:30] <Doonz> i lost my hdd and mobo over the weekend
[10:30] <Doonz> so i had to reinstall
[10:30] <benjamin123> anyone here know how to get spell checking working in  openoffice?
[10:30] <nickrud> kalias, http://pastebin.com/299058 ?
[10:30] <benjamin123> is there a package to install?
[10:30] <geetergod> crimsun, where to?
[10:30] <nalioth> geetergod: used improperly, mv can also be 'delete"
[10:30] <Doonz> but now i have no idea howto get those hdd into this install
[10:30] <kalias> nickrud: yes
[10:30] <Howitzer> Doonz, don't you have to edit a file and add hda/hdb an all? :x
[10:31] <seth_k> benjamin123, what language?
[10:31] <geetergod> nalioth so mv ~/.asoundrc to where?
[10:31] <Curtis_> Hey everyone.
[10:31] <Choubaka> Hm.
[10:31] <ksoze> does KDE have the same connection to esd that GNOME does?
[10:31] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, J'apprcie le got de mon cire d'oreille. Je la mange avec mes orteils. :)
[10:31] <ksoze> maybe I could switch to KDE and get rid of esd?
[10:31] <Curtis_> I just ordered some CD's for my Linux convention that is going on.
[10:31] <Choubaka> I wish I had the patience to wait for Breezy to be released before buying a laptop.
[10:32] <seth_k> Doonz, see: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows to mount more partitions
[10:32] <Doonz> ok
[10:32] <crimsun> geetergod: anything other than ~/.asoundrc
[10:32] <crimsun> geetergod: for instance, ~/.asoundrc.bak
[10:32] <seth_k> ksoze: KDE uses Alsa + Artsd
[10:32] <seth_k> iirc
[10:32] <geetergod> ok
[10:32] <nalioth> geetergod: to your desktop perhaps? just givin ya notice, that "mv" is very close to "delete" if not used properly.
[10:32] <Doonz> but there not ntfs or fat there ext
[10:32] <Curtis_> What kernel does Ubuntu use , 2.4.x or 2.6.x ?
[10:32] <crimsun> 2.6
[10:32] <Seveas> 6
[10:32] <Curtis_> Great :)
[10:33] <ramphis02> 2.6.x
[10:33] <seth_k> Doonz: ext2 or ext3, just replace with the appropriate type
[10:33] <Doonz> umm
[10:33] <ramphis02> I guess 2.6.11
[10:33] <Curtis_> I hoping to hand out 99% of the CD's i have ordered , Anyone here Ubunto staff ?
[10:33] <Doonz> what would have ubuntu made it last time?
[10:33] <nickrud> kalias, hmm, they're not the best, but I there're no odd ones.
[10:33] <geetergod> crimsun i did geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ mv ~/.asoundrc ~/.asoundrc.bak
[10:33] <run|help> hi guys
[10:33] <geetergod> crimsun, and it showed nothing, does that mean it worked?
[10:33] <run|help> grub has hosed me
[10:34] <crimsun> geetergod: good. Now use aplay to test.
[10:34] <ksoze> sth_k: then maybe that's the answer
[10:34] <run|help> when i run grub and type setup (hd0)
[10:34] <run|help> i get
[10:34] <kalias> nickrud: okay so where to from here ace?
[10:34] <ksoze> seth_k, even
[10:34] <Howitzer> Can POP work with mail-folders?
[10:34] <run|help>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2
[10:34] <run|help> /boot/grub/menu.lst"... failed
[10:34] <nalioth> geetergod: yes
[10:34] <geetergod> crimsun, 8-1118516774-649269: Permission denied
[10:34] <geetergod> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:898:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to connect client
[10:34] <geetergod> aplay: main:508: audio open error: Permission denied
[10:34] <geetergod> sorry for big post
[10:34] <nickrud> kalias, are you typed the lib name correctly?
[10:34] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: je ne comprends pas cette idiome :P je suis amricain et j'tudie le franais
[10:34] <crimsun> geetergod: do you have an /etc/asound.conf ?
[10:34] <Choubaka> Any idea when the breezy GCC4 transition will be complete? ie. When will it be relatively safe to upgrade to Breezy?
[10:35] <nalioth> seth_k: is there nobody in -fr?
[10:35] <run|help> grub-install is giving me: The file /mnt/lnx/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[10:35] <seth_k> Choubaka: it's over, for the most part
[10:35] <seth_k> nalioth: dunno
[10:35] <kalias> nickrud:  I copied the old one and inserted the new http address.
[10:35] <Choubaka> seth_k: oh. cool.
[10:35] <seth_k> ksoze: I hear Breezy is toying with dumping ESD
[10:35] <nalioth> Choubaka: relatively save when it says "release candidate"
[10:35] <Choubaka> seth_k: so how's breezy now?
[10:35] <dogfoodbrain> Why is it when I use XFCE the Start menu formats correctly but when I use Gnome or KDE in Ubuntu, there appears a "Debian" submenu with numerous submenus of programs (many of which do not show as they should in KDE/Gnome Start menu and subfolders of)
[10:35] <nickrud> kalias, ack, I read your initial message wrong, as usual, a sec
[10:35] <seth_k> ah, l'anglais :P
[10:35] <geetergod> crimsun, i'll pastebin it for u
[10:35] <Choubaka> nalioth: I don't mind having to fix borkness.
[10:35] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k :D
[10:35] <kalias> nickrud:  you can see the old addresses from the initial installation.  I left them there for reference.
[10:36] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: are you using repositories that are not Ubuntu's?
[10:36] <nalioth> Choubaka: then use it and post lots of bug reports
[10:36] <nickrud> kalias, no, it was something else
[10:36] <Mez> hmm
[10:36] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k I am using ubuntu respoitories
[10:36] <geetergod> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/299071
[10:36] <Choubaka> nalioth: Perhaps.
[10:36] <Mez> anyone interested in an acroread backport for hoary (perfectly working with default hoary (+universe)
[10:36] <kalias> nickrud: oh, do I need to change it back?
[10:36] <nalioth> Choubaka: cuz borkness is afoot in packs and waves
[10:36] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k I read about this issue on the ubuntuforums
[10:36] <ksoze> sth_k: sounds like it'd bea  real good idea
[10:36] <ksoze> seems esd is ass  :)
[10:36] <Choubaka> How's the laptop mission advancing btw?
[10:36] <Howitzer> are there any big changes in 5.10? and is it worth to dl it?
[10:37] <nickrud> kalias, no, the problem was mine, not yours, I read the E: message wrong, a sec
[10:37] <nalioth> Mez: why that over xpdf?
[10:37] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k and I experience it too but I notice there's no debian subfolder in the start menu when using XFCE4 and the start menu is formatted correctly.
[10:37] <benjamin123> seth_k: english
[10:37] <anacron> is there a way to make gnome windows snap to each other, like in kubuntu?
[10:37] <mjr> anacron, drag with shift pressed
[10:38] <anacron> (more like in kde)
[10:38] <nalioth> amd to produce 4x CPUs. WOWZERS!
[10:38] <anacron> mjr: damn it was that easy :D
[10:38] <anacron> thanks though
[10:38] <seth_k> benjamin123, dogfoodbrain asked for help in French, so I was using French. English now though
[10:38] <Mez> nalioth - cause it works proerplky with like - mozilla and stuff :D
[10:38] <Rugmonster> Afternoon all
[10:39] <benjamin123> so you know how to get spell check to work in openoffice2? seth_k?
[10:39] <xolotl_> geetergod - what card do you have?
[10:39] <nalioth> Mez: ah, my browsers open up with the f/oss pdf thing
[10:39] <crimsun> geetergod: mv /etc/asound.conf /etc/asound.conf.bak
[10:39] <anacron> mjr: do you know if there's a way also resize so that windows "snaps"?
[10:39] <geetergod> xolotl_, Chaintech 7.1pci
[10:39] <Mez> ah fair enough nalitoh - just some people ewill be happier with acroread
[10:39] <geetergod> crimsun, ok
[10:39] <seth_k> benjamin123, one sec, I'll chase it up for you (I thought you were telling me to speak English; had forgotten I asked you a question :P )
[10:39] <Rugmonster> I've got a new x86-64 install going and I'm trying to install automake, but I'm getting an MD5sum error. Any suggestions? I've tried apt-get update, but I'm still getting it.
[10:40] <benjamin123> ok, thanks
[10:40] <crimsun> geetergod: then test with: aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[10:40] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: XFCE uses its own menu system and I'm not familiar with it, sorry :(
[10:40] <geetergod> crimsun, it wont let me move it, permission denied
[10:40] <mic__> hello shewolf how goes it?
[10:40] <nickrud> kalias, try in a terminal, apt-get -f install , if it's a simple problem, that should fix it
[10:40] <crimsun> geetergod: you need to use sudo
[10:40] <SheWolf> scary
[10:40] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, Je me demandais si je pourrais marier Ubuntu. J'ai plaisir  employer Ubuntu beaucoup, il peut sembler trange pour vouloir marier une distribution de Linux, mais il n'y a aucun autre que mon coeur dsire. Ubuntu est mon amour.
[10:40] <mp_> have an USB wireless working (dwl-g122 w/ndis), but it keeps losing connection - ideas?
[10:40] <ksoze> so...supposing I am actually going to dig through this beast...can esd be replaced while staying with GNOME?
[10:40] <mic__> lol sit back and watch sis
[10:40] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k thank you
[10:40] <ksoze> by something less assy?  :)
[10:40] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: LOL
[10:40] <SheWolf> ok????
[10:40] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: Ubuntu < une femme
[10:40] <mic__> back to pm shewolf
[10:41] <Stew2> I've got a fat32 drive I want to see under ubuntu. How do I mount it?
[10:41] <SheWolf> please
[10:41] <geetergod> crimsun, was there sposed to be a sound when i tested?
[10:41] <Stew2> sh
[10:41] <seth_k> Stew2: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[10:41] <pepsi> seth_k, http://pastebin.com/299076
[10:41] <run|help> anyone have info about grub-install dooming with a 'stage1 not read correctly' ?
[10:41] <havoc> hiya
[10:41] <crimsun> geetergod: yes
[10:41] <pepsi> all those packages complain of an MD5Sum mismatch
[10:41] <nalioth> mez, i just prefer f/oss over proprietary and "free"
[10:41] <crimsun> xolotl_: sorry, getting around to your paste
[10:41] <Mez> dogfoodbrain, you scare me
[10:42] <geetergod> crimsun, dang it
[10:42] <crimsun> pepsi: have you tried using another mirror?
[10:42] <seth_k> benjamin123: I believe you want metapackage language-support-en
[10:42] <havoc> hmm, new install, and init is all ot of wack;  load average in 'top' is steadily climbing
[10:42] <crimsun> pepsi: there's a known issue with us/ca
[10:42] <pepsi> oh fun
[10:42] <pepsi> ok
[10:42] <alexwillmer> I'm trying to access a share on a Windows XP SP2 host from my Hoary laptop. If the XP host's windows firewall is disabled all is well, but if the firewall is up I'm unable to connect. Openning ports on the XP host isn't the problem, they're already open. Is there some tweak I might be missing to have Ubuntu get through?
[10:42] <seth_k> benjamin123: sudo aptitude install language-support-en
[10:42] <xolotl_> crimsun: no worries - I've been searching elsewhere too.
[10:42] <Mez> I understand nalioth, ubt when it's proprietary i think its good to have the actual proprietary software available
[10:42] <benjamin123> ok
[10:42] <benjamin123> ill try thanks:)
[10:42] <kalias> nickrud: I got a big listing when I did that. Reading package lists... Done
[10:42] <kalias> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:42] <kalias> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packag es (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Pa ckages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_restricted_bi nary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Pa ckages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary -i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:42] <pepsi> woah
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/mai n Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_mai n_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:42] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/res tricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updat es_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:43] <nickrud> kalias, don't do that :)
[10:43] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-security/ma in Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-security_m ain_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:43] <Mez> kalias - #flood
[10:43] <kalias> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-security/re stricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-secu rity_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:43] <kalias> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:43] <seth_k> ah pepsi, should have guessed that was the error you got >_< sorry, forgot about the archive issues
[10:43] <nickrud> kalias, that's what pastebin is fore
[10:43] <seth_k> pepsi, use http://archive.ubuntu.com temporarily
[10:43] <pepsi> thanks
[10:43] <kalias> oh, sorry, I didn't realize it did a flood, my mistake :((
[10:43] <geetergod> crimsun, i cant get any sound
[10:43] <crimsun> geetergod: paste amixer output to pastebin
[10:44] <geetergod> crimsun amixer output?
[10:44] <Howitzer> 75mb complete for RTCW:ET \ o /
[10:44] <Stew2> I've got a Lucent Winmodem 56k. How do I make it work in Ubuntu?
[10:45] <crimsun> geetergod: yes. Type amixer, then paste its output onto pastebin.com
[10:45] <nickrud> kalias, a simple error.
[10:45] <kalias> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/299079   I just learned my first what not to do. Sorry :(((
[10:45] <nickrud> after you change the sources.list, you must run update the package list
[10:46] <geetergod> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/299081
[10:46] <littlezoper> let's see if this channel is more helpful than #debian :)
[10:46] <littlezoper> i'm getting an md5sum mismatch when installing a package.  how do i tell apt not to check m5sums?
[10:46] <pepsi> heh
[10:46] <littlezoper> on kubuntu 5.04
[10:46] <seth_k> littlezoper: there's an issue with us and ca archives
[10:46] <littlezoper> in case that matters
[10:46] <ksoze> crimsun: this might interest you: after I rebooted, Audacity won't run again, despite the esd.conf file changes still being in place
[10:46] <seth_k> littlezoper: use http://archive.ubuntu.com
[10:46] <ksoze> it's as though they are ignored on starup
[10:46] <littlezoper> seth_k: kinda figured so...
[10:47] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, L'OH, sguardo, l  Mario. Osserva cos divertente in quel cappello dell'idraulico.
[10:47] <seth_k> littlezoper: you can change those in /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[10:47] <truz24> I have two nics in my box, each one is connected to a different router, how do i tell ubuntu which nic to use for internet access ?
[10:47] <theNeonGod> how can i improve the speed of audio extraction?
[10:47] <ksoze> but if I restart esd, it then works
[10:47] <ksoze> interesting
[10:47] <littlezoper> seth_k: what do you..that worked :)
[10:47] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: no comprendo....
[10:47] <littlezoper> seth_k: thanks :)
[10:47] <ksoze> well, I am gonna undo the change to prevent another hang
[10:47] <seth_k> littlezoper: not a problem ^_^ come again
[10:48] <seth_k> littlezoper: will want to change it back eventually, the local mirror will be faster
[10:48] <crimsun> geetergod: mute 'IEC958 Output' and unmute 'External Amplifier'
[10:48] <littlezoper> #debian refused to even attempt to tell me how to disable mdsum checking ("don't do that!" "it's important") and when I mentioned kubuntu, they slammed on the brakes
[10:48] <Doonz> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:48] <Doonz> /dev/hde1               1        9732    78172258+  83  Linux
[10:48] <Stew2> seth_k, Thanks for the mounting info
[10:48] <Doonz> what file system is that?
[10:48] <littlezoper> seth_k: thanks...i'll do that in a week or so :)
[10:49] <randabis> Doonz: probably ext2/3
[10:49] <ksoze> guess for now I'll kill esd every time I want to record, then bring it back
[10:49] <dogfoodbrain> littlezoper, you should thank them. Disabling md5sum checking is normally unwise.
[10:49] <ksoze> not cool, but easiuer than a reinstall :)
[10:49] <crimsun> Doonz: mount|grep '/dev/hde1'
[10:49] <nalioth> littlezoper: they're not as friendly as we are in here
[10:49] <alexwillmer> Doonz: you can't tell that from the partition table, but normally it will be ext2
[10:49] <geetergod> crimsun, done
[10:49] <Doonz> crimsum what does that command do?
[10:49] <littlezoper> dogfoodbrain: i realize that, but I'm just checking out ubuntu to see if I want to stay on it, so md5's aren't that important to me right now
[10:49] <littlezoper> nalioth: i've noticed :)
[10:49] <crimsun> Doonz: it will tell you what filesystem type it is if the partition is mounted.
[10:50] <littlezoper> i'm a long time redhat and gentoo user, so...
[10:50] <Doonz> ok
[10:50] <randabis> dancin' in the desert blowin' up the sunshine
[10:50] <seth_k> littlezoper: Debian children are fun. Apt is wonderful
[10:50] <loply> evening folks
[10:50] <littlezoper> seth_k: i've used apt4rpm on my RH/fedora boxes...love it
[10:50] <randabis> I don't miss gentoo. :)
[10:51] <littlezoper> so far, (k)ubuntu is impressive...
[10:51] <geetergod> crimsun, is checking them muting them or unmuting?
[10:51] <crimsun> geetergod: if there is no checkmark, it is muted.
[10:51] <littlezoper> randabis: yeah...so far, kubuntu has been as responsive as gentoo without the install pains :)
[10:51] <loply> does ubuntu store the drive/partition it thinks its installed on somewhere? As some packages failed to install because they were trying to access hdd1 (ive now moved the drive to hda1 instead).. i cant find where to change this
[10:51] <xolotl_> crimsun: I have been checking a few things and it looks like the onboard intel8x0 soundcard is somehow being detected and used even though it's disabled in the bios
[10:51] <crimsun> geetergod: I'd use alsamixer or amixer myself.
[10:51] <Doonz> so if i want to mount that whole drive into a folder it would be
[10:51] <Doonz> /dev/hde1       /home/***/windows  vext2    umask=000       0       0
[10:51] <geetergod> crimsun, ok thats done that
[10:51] <crimsun> xolotl_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:51] <crimsun> xolotl_: (in #flood)
[10:51] <geetergod> ok
[10:52] <Stew2> I've got a Lucent Winmodem 56k. How do I make it work in Ubuntu?
[10:53] <geetergod> crimsun, in alsamixer for external speaker how can i unmute?
[10:53] <xolotl_> crimsun: done
[10:53] <randabis> littlezoper: I don't find the install process of gentoo that painful. I find the gentoo way of doing things painful :/
[10:53] <seth_k> randabis: I dunno, nothing like installing Gnome for 3 days...
[10:54] <littlezoper> ok...another question...i have gcc-3.4 installed, but gcc is not in the path (gcc-3.4 is, though).  if i install gcc, it requires 3.3.  is there a way around that
[10:54] <geetergod> crimsun, i think i did it
[10:54] <littlezoper> randabis: yeah, once you've done it once or twice, it's not too bad... i do like how a gentoo system works, though.  portage is pretty cool
[10:54] <jadam> yo
[10:55] <jadam> I just installed ubuntu, and im wondering how I can get rythmn box to play mp3 files
[10:55] <randabis> seth_k: meh, took under a day on mine. ymmv
[10:55] <randabis> littlezoper: portage has its ups and downs
[10:55] <nalioth> jadam: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:55] <seth_k> randabis, was exaggerating for effect ;)
[10:56] <randabis> seth_k: :) you should have said openoffice.org then :p
[10:56] <nalioth> seth_k: for real! shoulda only taken you 1.5 days! j/k
[10:56] <jadam> ok thanks
[10:56] <jadam> on to package manager now =)
[10:57] <jadam> awesome
[10:57] <crimsun> xolotl_: ah.
[10:57] <nalioth> synd: check this out http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000717046384/
[10:57] <crimsun> xolotl_: would you like to use your audigy by default?
[10:57] <crimsun> geetergod: press 'm' to mute/unmute
[10:58] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain, might look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32220
[10:58] <geetergod> crimsun, im all set then for that part
[10:58] <Doonz> @server:~$ sudo mount -a
[10:58] <Doonz> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hde1,
[10:58] <Doonz>        missing codepage or other error
[10:58] <Doonz>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:58] <Doonz>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:58] <xolotl_> xolotl_: hmm - that's interesting: didn't even think to try that, but now I've got "sound" of sorts.  the microphone works.  # alsamixer -c 1 instead of just # alsamixer
[10:58] <jadam> hrmm ubuntu is a pretty slick distro
[10:59] <Doonz> whats that mean?
[10:59] <nalioth> jadam: welcome
[10:59] <nalioth> jadam: to ubuntu
[11:00] <xolotl_> Heads up to everyone with two sound trouble: you may have two sound cards..!  X-/
[11:00] <crimsun> xolotl_: if you want to use the audigy by default, do: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:00] <crimsun> geetergod: ok, test again.
[11:00] <TheCan> hi my mbr got overridden by installing windows. how can i get my grub back? grub-install /dev/hda doesnt seem to work when trying it from a chroot using knoppix? (using the ubuntu partition as chroot)
[11:00] <crimsun> sorry, but I have to go now for errands
[11:00] <crimsun> I'll be on much later tonight
[11:00] <Deffy> How should I format my HD so that way I can use it as general storage by both Win Parition and ubuntu?
[11:00] <seth_k> have fun crimsun
[11:00] <xolotl_> crimsun: thanks for the help
[11:01] <run|help> TheCan, im in the same boat ;-(
[11:01] <seth_k> if you were really serious about signing my key
[11:01] <geetergod> crimsun, still nothing :(
[11:01] <seth_k><EMAIL_ADDRESS>shoot me an e-mail, I can buy you lunch on your way through :P
[11:01] <TheCan> run|help, i know i already fixed this a few days ago but i forgot how i actually did it
[11:01] <nalioth> Deffy: with lots of fat32
[11:01] <xolotl_> Deffy: good question - as I think Linsux will read but not write to Winblows NTFS
[11:02] <anacron> how can i increase my audio volume without volume control?
[11:02] <xolotl_> geetergod: still having issues with your sound?
[11:02] <geetergod> yes
[11:02] <TheCan> run|help, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html maybe this helps
[11:02] <loply> is there no package in the repository for VLC?
[11:02] <seth_k> Deffy: you'll want to avoid doing that as much as possible though, because fat32 does not support user permissions
[11:02] <geetergod> xolotl_, or lack there of
[11:02] <xolotl_> anacron:  try alsamixer from the command line
[11:02] <dogfoodbrain> seth_k, thank you for forums url, you are very helpful to people here I am thankful
[11:02] <nalioth> Deffy: i always install client machines with a 4gb partition for jsut windows (helps during the bi-annual cleansing) and the rest for everything esle (program files, etc)
[11:02] <nalioth> Deffy: both partitions in fat32
[11:02] <anacron> xolotl_: tnx a lot!
[11:03] <xolotl_> geetergod: what's the issue specificly
[11:03] <seth_k> dogfoodbrain: de rien
[11:03] <Deffy> nalioth: alright, I use the Windows OS for my Pro Tools work, but also want to use Linux for general use, and I want to make sure that I still can store the huge Pro Tools files on my 160GB storage drive
[11:04] <geetergod> xolotl_, i have no sound, i had it last night and when i was trying to get my surround sound to work i lost all sound
[11:04] <Deffy> while using the original 40GB for OS and OS related stuff
[11:04] <nalioth> Deffy: fat32 will work well
[11:04] <run|help> what is /dev/dm ?
[11:04] <Deffy> thanks
[11:05] <nalioth> Deffy: all ya need for linux is about 4 gb (linux can actually run proggys off other filesystems)
[11:05] <xolotl_> geetergod: did you keep a hand written og of what you were doing?
[11:05] <nalioth> Deffy: mind the bloat, tho
[11:05] <geetergod> xolotl_, no but ive been doing that ever since it happened
[11:05] <xolotl_> geetergod: good idea  ;-)
[11:05] <geetergod> xolotl_, sometimes good ideas come too late :)
[11:06] <xolotl_> geetergod: what kind of system do you have?
[11:06] <ksoze> ok...I scripted something that kills esd, runs audacity, then restarts esd after audacity exits
[11:06] <geetergod> xolotl_, Chaintech 7.1 sound card with Logitech x-530 speakers
[11:06] <ksoze> it's a kludge, but it'll work
[11:06] <xolotl_> geetergod: specificly is there multiple sound cards
[11:06] <geetergod> xolotl_, i have the new sound card i put in last night and the old ones still in
[11:07] <xolotl_> geetergod: this could be an issue as I just found out with my system
[11:07] <geetergod> xolotl_, i was using the new sound card last night, sounded sweet... maybe the 2 are fightin
[11:07] <xolotl_> geetergod: which card are you trying to use by default
[11:07] <geetergod> xolotl_, i have the speakers plugged into the 7.1
[11:07] <xolotl_> geetergod: if you don't want to use the old card, I suggest taking it out and trying again
[11:08] <geetergod> xolotl_, it didnt look like it could really come out, i dunno, like its hooked to other stuff
[11:08] <geetergod> xolotl_, how can i set my new card to be the default?
[11:08] <xolotl_> geetergod: it may be hooked to other stuff, but the new card should provide those functions - depending...  X-/
[11:09] <geetergod> xolotl_, the new card is bigger and wont fit where the old one it
[11:09] <geetergod> xolotl_, is*
[11:09] <djm62> you can change the priority of the sound cards in /etc/modprobe.d
[11:09] <xolotl_> geetergod: crimsun gave me a command to try - haven't done it yet: echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:09] <djm62> yeah, like that :)
[11:10] <xolotl_> geetergod: what are the connections / cords going to on the old card?
[11:10] <geetergod> xolotl_, can you type that out so i can copy and paste?
[11:10] <djm62> but with the module name for your soundcard (which you can find out easily)
[11:10] <xolotl_> echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:10] <geetergod> xolotl_, theres nothing going into the back of the old card
[11:10] <xolotl_> so what are you worried about it being hooked to?
[11:11] <djm62> S/DIP or whatever to the CD drive?
[11:11] <geetergod> options snd-intel8x0 index=-2 it gave me this, xolotl_
[11:11] <pepsi> only 17 packages held back now :)
[11:11] <geetergod> geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$  echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:11] <geetergod> options snd-intel8x0 index=-2
[11:11] <geetergod>
[11:11] <pepsi> mozilla-firefox is official broke-ass though
[11:12] <xolotl_> geetergod: oops, sorry - snd-intel8x0 neds to be changed to what your card / driver is
[11:12] <seth_k> haha
[11:12] <DaSkreech> Hello
[11:12] <DaSkreech> What are the breezy Repo urls?
[11:12] <geetergod> oh, hmm.. where do i find my card?
[11:12] <xolotl_> one sec...
[11:12] <seth_k> you just change all instances of Hoary to Breezy
[11:12] <seth_k> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <DaSkreech> Ah Thanks
[11:12] <pepsi> and then cross your fingers :)
[11:12] <randabis> and break your system :) yay
[11:12] <djm62> geetergod: tee means that that phrase gets output to you as well as to the file (a T-junction)
[11:13] <xolotl_> geetergod: run # lspci and # cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:14] <robert__> I am trying to setup a dhcp client at eth0. I have modified /etc/networking/interfaces and added 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[11:14] <xolotl_> then go to the ALSA-project.org website and look for the driver that corresponds to your card (new one)
[11:14] <geetergod> 0 [AUDIO2000      ] : ICE1724 - AMP Ltd AUDIO2000
[11:14] <geetergod>                      AMP Ltd AUDIO2000 at 0xd800, irq 16
[11:14] <geetergod>  xolotl_
[11:14] <robert__> also..., ive added alias eth0 via_rhine in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[11:14] <Efwis> hello, can anyone help me with a little help with a new sound problem??
[11:15] <xolotl_> geetergod: then run the command like this:  echo "options snd-<YOUR DRIVER HERE> index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:15] <robert__> restarted /etc/init.d/networking, did ifup eth0, and it brings up the eth0 in ifconfig, but it doesn''t grab an IP from the Comcast DHCP server
[11:15] <geetergod> xolotl_, AMP Ltd AUDIO2000 is my driver?
[11:15] <thenuke> robert__: try commanding dhclient
[11:15] <robert__> thenuke: i have
[11:15] <robert__> doesn't bring it up
[11:16] <xolotl_> geetergod, nope, that'd be your card
[11:16] <dancec0mmander> can someone help me troubleshoot an internet connection issue?
[11:16] <geetergod> ICE1724?
[11:16] <synic_> anyone use a tablet pc?
[11:16] <geetergod> xolotl_, ICE1724?
[11:17] <robert__> thenuke: I have another PC with the exact same configuration, also running Ubuntu, but it grabs the IP just fine
[11:17] <geetergod> geetergod@cpe-66-24-86-121:~$ echo "options snd-ICE1724 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:17] <geetergod> thats what i did
[11:18] <xolotl_> geetergod, by the looks of things, your card is brand: AMP, model: AUDIO2000 - this is likely your old card
[11:18] <geetergod> k
[11:19] <jadam> is there anyway to get ubuntu to be capable of writing to my ntfs windows partition?
[11:19] <seth_k> jadam: not recommended
[11:19] <robert__> thenuke: is there anyway I can just copy all the files from the Ubuntu config that works into the one that doesn't?
[11:19] <geetergod> xolotl_, ive been at this for hours, i'll have to let my brother take a look at it, im gettin frustrated
[11:19] <Dilkes> of these three restricted files, which one will I need for Ubuntu Hoary release 5.04 on a Pentium II 350?
[11:19] <Dilkes> #  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[11:19] <Dilkes> # linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686-smp_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[11:19] <Dilkes> # linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[11:19] <nalioth> jadam: there is a way, but it is not proven
[11:19] <seth_k> jadam: captive_ntfs if you realllly want to try
[11:19] <jadam> ohh
[11:19] <Dilkes> < to add support for a lucent winmodem
[11:19] <xolotl_> geetergod, looks like you're going to have to do some searching to find out what chipset that card has.  AMP and Audio2000 are not listed on the ALSA soundcards list
[11:20] <geetergod> xolotl_, ok
[11:20] <nalioth> jadam: will send the URL in a minim
[11:20] <geetergod> im gunna give it a break now
[11:20] <jadam> nah its ok
[11:20] <jadam> I dont want to ruin my windows partition
[11:20] <geetergod> xolotl_, thanks anyway, maybe i'll get it straightened out someday
[11:20] <xolotl_> geetergod, ok - I'm off to install the true system - a little advice...
[11:20] <dancec0mmander> does anyone here use roadrunner cable?
[11:20] <nalioth> jadam: check it out anyway, ya might like it  http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[11:20] <jadam> dance0mmander: I do
[11:20] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: i have a roadrunner account
[11:21] <robert__> anyone?
[11:21] <dancec0mmander> did you have any problems with the connection being extremely slow with ubuntu?
[11:21] <jadam> nalioth: thanks
[11:21] <jadam> no
[11:21] <jadam> I get 600kb/s
[11:21] <xolotl_> geetergod, find out which chipset your card has - then write it down - this will be the easiest way to get your card working properly.  most 3rd party cards have non proprietary chips - I mean - at the least they're likely Intel or something.
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> its not a latency issue or something with the DNS
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> it just downloads at a really crap speed
[11:22] <geetergod> xolotl_, ok i will
[11:22] <CarlFK> xolotl_ - geetergod has the lspci ID's somewhere
[11:22] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: my connection works fine under OSX, ubuntu and the dreaded winduhs
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> i reinstalled XP to troubleshoot it
[11:22] <jadam> dunno, I download at 600kb/s with ubuntu
[11:22] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: do you recycle the power at least every 2 weeks?
[11:22] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: on the modem?
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> yeah
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> the connection is fine now that XP is back up
[11:22] <dancec0mmander> but when i booted the liveCD again same deal
[11:23] <xolotl_> geetergod, come back and look for me here later if you like.  I'll try to get back in and help out once I get my system up
[11:23] <xolotl_> CarlFK, thanks
[11:23] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: so this is not on an installed ubuntu?
[11:23] <robert__> so can anyone help me figure out why one installation of Ubuntu isn't grabbing an IP from the Comcast DHCP server, but one (with the exact same hardware config) is?
[11:23] <dancec0mmander> no i did install ubuntu
[11:23] <geetergod> xolotl_, ok thanks a ton!
[11:23] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: cuz the pkgs are a little old on the cd
[11:23] <zerokills> anyone know anything about making ethernet cables? im having trouble.
[11:23] <dancec0mmander> but it happens on both the livecd and the install
[11:23] <xolotl_> geetergod, no prob
[11:24] <xolotl_> robert__, are they identical hardware?
[11:24] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: do yourself a 2x favor. go buy a cheap linksys wired router
[11:24] <robert__> yep
[11:24] <xolotl_> robert__, identical OS installs?
[11:24] <dancec0mmander> what is that going to do?
[11:24] <robert__> yup
[11:24] <zerokills> anyone?
[11:24] <zth_> hey, would somebody mind helping me setting up alsa dmix?
[11:24] <xolotl_> robert__, are they hooked into the same switch / router / device?
[11:24] <robert__> Ethernet card is fine, my connection works fine with Windows
[11:24] <jadam> yeah the lynksys is awesome
[11:24] <nalioth> zerokills: what is the trouble? its purty simple
[11:25] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: it will take out any OS questions you have
[11:25] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: iow, the OS will have nothing to do with talking to time-warner
[11:25] <zerokills> nalioth: we made a ethernet cable to run to my brother's system from the router. but we're getting no connection
[11:25] <dancec0mmander> i guess that makes sense
[11:25] <nalioth> zerokills: did you test for continuity?
[11:25] <dancec0mmander> do you have a URL for a good model
[11:26] <zerokills> nalioth: how do we do that?
[11:26] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: r u in the US?
[11:26] <dancec0mmander> this is something i can pick up at a bestbuy/circuit city right?
[11:26] <dancec0mmander> yeah
[11:26] <dancec0mmander> san diego
[11:26] <nalioth> zerokills: with a multimeter
[11:26] <Miks> why when i try to open my "users & groups" preferences, i get some error saying "child terminated with status 1" ?
[11:26] <zerokills> nalioth: nope, is that what we should do?
[11:26] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: go and buy a router from walmart, they sell a lower-brand version of linksys productes (don't remember the brand name, but its a rebranded linksys)
[11:27] <nalioth> zerokills: yes, when you manufacture something, it should be tested b4 use
[11:27] <robert__> nalioth: or he could pick up a dirt cheap 802.11b wifi modem from ebay
[11:27] <loply> how can I get the resolution above 1024x768 on gnome in ubuntu? I cant find XF86Config-4 :S (perhaps im old fashioned)
[11:27] <robert__> i wouldn't recommend anyone buying anything from walmart regardless how cheap it is
[11:27] <nickrud> loply, it's xorg.conf now
[11:27] <Dilkes> nalioth The walmart version can be reprogrammed with the alternate firmwares?
[11:28] <dancec0mmander> they are the devil but sometimes you have to be an agent of entropy, you know?
[11:28] <dancec0mmander> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124001
[11:28] <dancec0mmander> something like this?
[11:28] <loply> nickrud: Whats all this crazy change! In my day...
[11:28] <nalioth> robert__: they got dirt-cheap wireless at wally world (or frys if you're lucky enough to be near one of those)
[11:28] <zerokills> robert__: very true, i once purchased an item from walmart for a real cheap price, and the product did not work.
[11:28] <nalioth> Dilkes: depends on which one you get
[11:28] <dancec0mmander> i can get to a frys
[11:28] <nickrud> heh, I was pissed at the -4 change
[11:29] <robert__> returning stuff to walmart will give you gray hair
[11:29] <zerokills> nalioth: can you tell me some basics about setting up the wires in an ethernet cable?
[11:29] <nalioth> loply: ubuntu hoary uses xorg, not xfree86
[11:29] <Howitzer> how do i open a .run file?
[11:29] <loply> nalioth: Ah right, I didnt know anything about that, is xorg a modern fork or something?
[11:29] <zerokills> nalioth: for instance are the wires supposed to be in a certain ordeR?
[11:29] <xolotl_> returning stuff to walmart in canada is stupid easy - even stuff that's not exactly "new"
[11:29] <Stew2> zerokills. Orange stripe orange, green stripe blue, blue stripe green, brown stripe brown
[11:29] <jadam> ok so I downloaded the nvidia glx drivers from synaptic package manager, do I have to load them? or restard the computer?
[11:29] <loply> havent used a linux desktop in qutie a while, and then it was an oldschool one
[11:29] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: then getcha a cheap wired router, unless you want a wireless (wired goes faster)
[11:29] <robert__> xolotl_: not here, the people are pricks
[11:30] <nalioth> dancec0mmander: and is more secure (no wifi eavesdropping)
[11:30] <dancec0mmander> no i don't need wireless
[11:30] <robert__> it used to be easy
[11:30] <dancec0mmander> thanks for the advice i never would have thought of it
[11:30] <robert__> but now i think they started cracking down since they got screwed
[11:30] <nalioth> loply: something like that
[11:30] <zerokills> stew2: cool, thats what we just set it up as, we're gonna try it now
[11:30] <robert__> my grandmother once returned an HP PC she bought there, after using it for four months
[11:30] <xolotl_> robert__, did you get my question about wether the systems are hooked into the same device
[11:30] <robert__> xolotl_: they're not connected to a router
[11:31] <nalioth> zerokills: each terminator has 8 sockets i believe, wire a should go from socket 1 on one end to socket 1 on the other end
[11:31] <Stew2> zerokills and it's handy to have your own 44 dollar ratcheting telemaster crimp tool
[11:31] <nalioth> zerokills: and on and on
[11:31] <xolotl_> robert__, what /are/ they connected to - same net connection?
[11:31] <Stew2> zerokills unless you have pre-made cables.
[11:31] <nickrud> loply, as I understand it, the xfree leads changed the licensing, and some others took the opportunity to fork
[11:31] <robert__> xolotl_: well, i only have 1 connected to the 3com officeconnect cable modem at a time since i don't have a router yet
[11:31] <robert__> mine died and i haven't picked up a new one yet
[11:31] <Stew2> Does anyone know where the 686 or 386 kernal package runs by default on a P2 350?
[11:32] <eyequeue> okay, a possibly dumb, completely off-topic question, but i imagine this is the population to ask it of
[11:32] <nalioth> Stew2: 686
[11:32] <dancec0mmander> ok i'm going to go pick one up, hopefully by the time i'm back here it won't be in windows
[11:32] <dancec0mmander> thanks
[11:32] <eyequeue> someone is asking me, they have one opportunity to see the revenge of the sith, basically right now, but they have not seen its predecessors.  should they go, or will they not enjoy it because they won't know the backstory?
[11:33] <xolotl_> robert__, The issue is probably that the ISP is only accepting 1 computer onto their network - the mac address of the 1 network card is the only mac addy the dhcp server will likely respond to
[11:33] <nalioth> eyequeue: they'll love it
[11:33] <mz2> hmm. is it possible to convert .tgz's to .debs?
[11:33] <robert__> xolotl_: they are the same ethernet card
[11:33] <Yea`baby`> How long does the Ubuntu free shipping take ?
[11:33] <mz2> a bizarre problem :)
[11:33] <nalioth> mz2: what kind of tgz?
[11:33] <eyequeue> nalioth:  even without the backstory?  cool, thanks, i'll tell him :)\
[11:33] <mz2> the slackware sort of tgz's
[11:33] <Efwis> ok, I have all sound events disabled. Every few minutes I have to go to terminal and do a killall esd because I start getting this "alarm" sound, How can I stop this from happening all the time
[11:33] <Stew2> nalioth  if I get #  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb, is there an easy way to install the lt_modem.ko and lt_serial.ko into the kernal?
[11:33] <robert__> xolotl_: are you sure there's something else I haven't missed?
[11:34] <xolotl_> robert__, you mean you take the 1 network card and put it into each separate computer every time you change computers???
[11:34] <nalioth> Yea`baby`: weeks? you acn go to a local university or linux users group if you want burnt copies now
[11:34] <Yea`baby`> How long does the Ubuntu free shipping take to get shipped ?
[11:34] <robert__> xolotl_: no, i mean the hardware is the same.
[11:34] <nalioth> mz2: not sure about slack to deb
[11:34] <Yea`baby`> sorry for the repeat
[11:34] <Stew2> nalioth, Or into the folder /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/char/... which is what I meant..
[11:34] <Yea`baby`> nalioth: No one has them around :S
[11:34] <xolotl_> robert__, right - the mac address for /every/ network card is different - think of the VIN numbers on a vehicle - same colour, same make, same model, same options - different vin
[11:34] <nalioth> Stew2: moving files is easy, i'm not sure about kernel stuff
[11:35] <Stew2> nalioth, I'm reading the wiki page on the lucentwinmodem and how to get it working in ubuntu, though it assumes I'm online already, and I won't be until I get the modem installed!
[11:35] <robert__> okay, I thought the mac addys were the same
[11:35] <xolotl_> robert__, just for giggles, if you've worn out every other option, try changing the network cards
[11:35] <nalioth> robert__: mac addresses on individual parts are always the same
[11:35] <robert__> xolotl_: the thing is, I have also tried to move the HD into the PC that had it working, and that didn't work
[11:35] <Stew2> nalioth, Well, the wiki says I have to install the restricted module because the licensing is different: it's not included with ubuntu
[11:35] <robert__> the OS booted, the connection stil didn't work
[11:35] <robert__> still
[11:35] <kuntu> how do i change my mac adress ?
[11:36] <robert__> xolotl_: I am pretty sure that there is something I must've missed
[11:36] <xolotl_> robert__, ok - still just a dhcp issue then
[11:36] <nalioth> Stew2: yes, ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats is one place to look (if there is no link there)
[11:36] <nickrud> Stew2, getting that deb under windows  and doing dpkg -i  under ubuntu will work fine, I had to do something similar once
[11:36] <xolotl_> robert__, ok, lets go with that then
[11:36] <kuntu> can i apt-get tor ?
[11:36] <nalioth> kuntu: you dont, it's hard coded
[11:37] <xolotl_> robert__, *thinking*
[11:37] <bucky> kuntu, why because you got banned from #debian for trolling ?
[11:37] <kuntu> nalioth, im just like you a reall god damn lier
[11:37] <robert__> lol
[11:37] <robert__> lier
[11:37] <kuntu> you just have to set it up on the procs dir
[11:37] <seacyd> I need to transfer evolution to a new installation. How can I transfer all POP server accounts? Copying gnome2_private/Evolution does not work.
[11:37] <nickrud> Stew2, but, after it's installed, and you've got a good connection, apt-get install  the package to get apt's database up to date
[11:38] <bucky> kuntu, your hardware is too cheap and you're too stupid
[11:38] <afroman> hi guys
[11:38] <Stew2> nickrud So once I get the  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb package for my P2 350 and save it to the windows partition, and mount the partition, what is the 'dpkg -i' command?
[11:38] <MetalWolf> hiya...
[11:38] <Stew2> nickrud: tricky, i'm in cork ireland and the phone line is shite.
[11:38] <MetalWolf> i might be doing something *really* stupid here so bear with me...
[11:38] <kuntu> bucky how do you know what hardware iv got ?
[11:38] <xolotl_> robert__, try running unpluggin the network cable, run tcpdump, plug in the network cable and see what it gives you
[11:38] <afroman> I'm having a prob...
[11:38] <nickrud> Stew2, it's roughly equivalent to rpm -i
[11:38] <robert__> xolotl_: ok, what else can you give me to try?
[11:39] <xolotl_> robert__, I assume you've checked to see if the dhcp client process is running
[11:39] <MetalWolf> I get this Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wmaker/libwraster3_0.91.0-2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch when I try to apt-get install wmaker
[11:39] <nickrud> Stew2, it that helps :)
[11:39] <afroman> I changed screens and now I can only have 640 as resolution
[11:39] <Stew2> nickrud Does it extract the .deb package to it's individual files?
[11:39] <robert__> xolotl_: well when I run dhclient it just crashes
[11:39] <MetalWolf> I did an apt-get update and I'm all up-to-date
[11:39] <MetalWolf> something I'm doing?
[11:39] <robert__> well, not sure if it crashes
[11:39] <nalioth> MetalWolf: its a problem today with us. and ca. repos
[11:39] <xolotl_> robert__, haha - ok - /now/ were getting somewhere
[11:39] <nickrud> Stew2, what it will do is unpack it, and run any configuration necessary for that package
[11:39] <kuntu> can i apt-get tor ?
[11:39] <afroman> I changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution
[11:39] <xolotl_> robert__, what's the error
[11:40] <MetalWolf> can I use the same but a gb. ?
[11:40] <Stew2> nickrud Cool
[11:40] <robert__> I haven't done ps aux|grep dhclient... so I'm not sure
[11:40] <robert__> maybe I should
[11:40] <afroman> I changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution
[11:40] <robert__> lemme boot up the other PC
[11:40] <Jorkar> Where can i find a complete list of software in Ubuntu?
[11:40] <robert__> hang on
[11:40] <xolotl_> robert__, if it's a base Ubuntu install it should be running...  worth checking though
[11:41] <nickrud> Stew2, the apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 may not be necessary, but it won't hurt
[11:41] <afroman> anybody can help me
[11:41] <robert__> xolotl_: What can I do if it's not up?
[11:41] <Stew2> nickrud Which kernal do I have if I have the one that comes with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04? Is it the 2.6.10 kernel?
[11:41] <kuntu> why are so many ppl being broght to use ubuntu ?
[11:41] <robert__> and it does just crash
[11:41] <decaf> afroman: may be, if you ask
[11:41] <kimo> afroman: problem ?
[11:41] <afroman> I changed screens and now I can only have 640x480 as resolution
[11:41] <kuntu> is it because its easlly hackable ?
[11:41] <xolotl_> robert__, what message does it give when it's crashing
[11:42] <kimo> afroman: explain
[11:42] <robert__> 1sec
[11:42] <Stew2> afroman The monitor is not sending info through the video card as to the resolution, I think
[11:42] <nickrud> Stew2, uname -r will tell you specifically what kernel version you have, but it is a 2.6.10 variant
[11:42] <Stew2> afroman, I had a similar problem.
[11:42] <xolotl_> afroman, changed screens? what do you mean? did you change a config file?
[11:42] <munki> kuntu , why are you full off stupid questions ?
[11:42] <nalioth> Jorkar: packages.ubuntu.org
[11:42] <Stew2> afroman, There's a file you need to edit and tell it what the refresh rates of the monitor are.
[11:42] <dizzie> :)
[11:42] <afroman> I meant I changed monitors, sorry
[11:42] <kuntu> because im smart
[11:42] <MetalWolf> gb. works nickrud
[11:42] <Stew2> afroman, At least that's what I needed to do.
[11:43] <Jorkar> thanks nalioth
[11:43] <kuntu> i just dont know anything about programing
[11:43] <dizzie> Define smart please :)
[11:43] <munki> kuntu , I see .
[11:43] <kuntu> smart != stupid
[11:43] <afroman> Stew2, what file
[11:43] <MetalWolf> cheers
[11:43] <Stew2> afroman I think it's the /etc/xorg.conf file
[11:44] <nickrud> nalioth, I think that thanks was yours
[11:44] <chaps0063> How can I adjust the brightness on my laptop, the current function keys do not work.
[11:44] <xolotl_> afroman, Stew2, that would be it
[11:44] <VoL_afk> XD
[11:44] <kimo> Stew2: lol, I suppose it's not easy to specify some refresh rate, right
[11:44] <Stew2> afroman I dunno too much, it wasn't this computer i'm on, so I don't have access to what I did to modify it. It was weird, a fairly nice monitor that didn't have DDC
[11:44] <nico8481> hi
[11:44] <kuntu> i think many folks here think ppl should be punished for trying to use free open software
[11:44] <afroman> and how do I edit the file?? wot do I change??
[11:44] <psychonate> kimo, easier than you think. IMO the best way is to specify the manufacturer's sync ranges; X should use the best refresh rate for each resolution then.