[05:23] <Clutchsama> trying to be patient!
[05:23] <Clutchsama> scary stuff
[05:23] <zengen> err, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41792
[05:23] <don-o> Humanzy: your question is too generic - ask about your specific problem - it gets better results.
[05:23] <matx> grab a coffe Clutchsama
[05:23] <matx> lots of coffee!
[05:23] <zetheroo> has anyone had success with Screen Expansion in Gutsy?
[05:23] <Humanzy> I have no idea what's wrong
[05:23] <dzer0> hmmm... for some reason I get an error when I try to navigate to any NTFS drives... it says it cant mount them
[05:23] <ianm1> fujin: btw help to prefix messages with a person's name in here
[05:24] <stupidgirl> what errror dzer0
[05:24] <kevin_121> Humanzy: are you getting sound at all? help us out
[05:24] <ianm1> fujin: then it tells me I have a message, in case I'm not watching the scroll (which I'm not)
[05:24] <dzer0> says something like logfile indicates unclean shutdown, operation not supported, mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use
[05:24] <matx> dzer0, are you using ntfs-3g
[05:24] <clay> kevin_121, ahh  not problem thanks for helping kevin_121 , I almost had to bitch slap ianm1
[05:24] <Humanzy> no sound, i had all the codecs installed, because it was only playing the login sound, and it worked until the recent kernel upgrade
[05:24] <Humanzy> and now i don't even get that
[05:24] <dzer0> matx: I didn't change any of that from the default install so I'm not sure
[05:24] <Clutchsama> what does LVM  do?
[05:24] <stupidgirl> dzer0, u tried rebooting eh
[05:25] <Clutchsama> forums are less than clear
[05:25] <eyeRmonkey> Question: I have XGL and compiz installed. But only some of the effects are responding. I can get wobbly windows and rain and such, but the rotating cube isn't responding to the hot keys I'm assigning. Any ideas where i should start
[05:25] <dzer0> nope but I guess I'll try that
[05:25]  * clay holds his hand up and says "This can be a hand of guidance, and a hand that feeds you" then he balls it into a fist and says "or it can be a hand of destruction, and pain"
[05:25] <stupidgirl> eyeRmonkey, try #compiz-fusion 8-]
[05:25] <zetheroo> has anyone had success with Screen Expansion in Gutsy?
[05:25]  * hydrogen holds up a sign with the topic on it for clay
[05:25] <eyeRmonkey> stupidgirl, i meant compiz fusion ;)
[05:25] <hydrogen> see what I did there?
[05:25] <snowglobe> humanzy: if you turn up all your volumes all the way, can you hear it softly in the background?
[05:25] <Humanzy> nope
[05:26] <jambon> I've been trying to find an answer to changing my screen refresh rate and monitor preference, but I can't seem to find anything on the forums. Some help please?
[05:26] <bluefox83> is there a way to remove *everything* left over from feisty, after a gutsy upgrade?
[05:26] <eyeRmonkey> Question: I have XGL and compiz fusion installed. But only some of the effects are responding. I can get wobbly windows and rain and such, but the rotating cube isn't responding to the hot keys I'm assigning. Any ideas where i should start
[05:26] <RB2> eyeRmonkey, As stupidgirl said, try #compiz-fusion (the room).
[05:26] <Clutchsama> the partition tool is saying that i'm lacking an apple_bootstrap partition, do i want to go back to the menu and resume partitioning?
[05:27] <kevin_121> humanzy: please go to a shell and type "aplay -l"
[05:27] <eyeRmonkey> RB2: ahhhhh. i didn't realize you meant the channel
[05:27] <nownott> ianm1:how esle am i suppost to edit them
[05:27] <Clutchsama> or will that get fixed after when i install os x again?
[05:27] <RB2> eyeRmonkey, ;)
[05:27] <lomez> alright, i got a question. i have 2 partitions on my HD, /sda1 and /sda2, when upgrading to gutsy for some reason sda2 does not mount anymore. suggestions?
[05:27] <John117> Hey guys. What is a good Object/Application dock for Ubuntu?
[05:27] <jmg> lomez: check /etc/fstab
[05:28] <ianm1> nownott: edit what
[05:28] <ianm1> nownott: ...too much happening...
[05:28] <lomez> ok jmg, i see it there
[05:28] <davubuntu> Hey wonderfully helpful ubuntu irc people. I have a poser (well at least from my POV). Is it possible that my latest gutsy install could be somehow knocking out my net connection? What happens is: I log in and the machine connects to the wifi router no trouble, then I have a connection for 5 minutes or so and then the connection drops. Not just for me though. For another machine connected via wifi and for a machine connected via cable
[05:28] <Humanzy> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[05:28] <Humanzy>   Subdevices: 0/1
[05:28] <Humanzy>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[05:28] <Humanzy> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]
[05:28] <Humanzy>   Subdevices: 1/1
[05:28] <Humanzy>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[05:28] <nownott> ianm1: iptables
[05:28] <jmg> !paste > Humanzy
[05:28] <jmg> davubuntu: doesnt sound possible
[05:28] <kevin_121> Humanzy: ok, that means ubuntu is detecting your soundcard
[05:29] <zengen> Is there any way to go back to a previous svn version?  Fromm 500 to 498?
[05:29] <jmg> davubuntu: does it happen when you dont connect from your gutsy install?
[05:29] <jmg> zengen: man svn
[05:29] <ianm1> nownott: well, what are you trying to do exactly?
[05:29] <jmg> you can check out specific versions
[05:29] <davubuntu> jmg, I thought it was a dns problem but then why would it work for XP and my neighbours have the same ISP and they have no problems. I'm not sure what you mean with your question?
[05:29] <Humanzy> alright, thanks, does that mean there's something wrong with alsa?
[05:30] <nownott> ianm1: open up ftp, http, ssh, and get it setup for vpn
[05:30] <davubuntu> jmg, if I log into XP all three machines connect and stay connected just fine
[05:30] <jmg> davubuntu: very strange
[05:30] <davubuntu> jmg, the net actually starts working for them just fine.
[05:30] <ianm1> nownott: have you tried Firestarter ?  not sure how much it can do but worth a look
[05:30] <hydrogen> firestarterse not that bad
[05:30] <jmg> maybe your ubuntu is running a rogue dhcp server
[05:30] <John117> Is there an application launcher like ObjectDock for Ubuntu?
[05:31] <kevin_121> Humanzy: probably, just one second, im trying to figure out what driver your soundcard uses.. i think stac92xx using hda-intel
[05:31] <nownott> well im just on a terminal ssh'd in right now
[05:31] <davubuntu> jmg, how would it do that?
[05:31] <jmg> what actually happens? can you continue to ping the router? can you see your other machines on the network?
[05:31] <jmg> davubuntu: if its running dhcp it may override the one running on your server. apt-get remove dhcpd
[05:31] <davubuntu> jmg, it's just like a dns server outage.
[05:31] <jmg> er router
[05:31] <Humanzy> it's onboard sound with ati graphics and amd 64 proccessor
[05:31] <davubuntu> jmg, I can still get email and i can chat use skype etc but I can't get webpages at all
[05:31] <jmg> davubuntu: so you can continue to access via ip address, just the dns goes away?
[05:32] <nownott> ianm1: im ssh'd in right now
[05:32] <davubuntu> jmg, correct
[05:32] <xnitebreedx> how do i access compiz
[05:32] <jmg> and what happens when you try to resolve a dns name?
[05:32] <xnitebreedx> waittt
[05:32] <nextse7en> Really stupid question, how do I check what ver of ubuntu I'm running?
[05:32] <xnitebreedx> which repo is it in?
[05:32] <davubuntu> jmg, Hmm, what does that mean?
[05:32] <jmg> nextse7en: lsb_release
[05:32] <spacewrench> nextse7en: cat /etc/issue
[05:32] <xnitebreedx> can be found in synaptic?
[05:33] <nextse7en> Thanks both.
[05:33] <jmg> davubuntu: for instance open a terminal and type "host www.google.com"
[05:33] <usser> davubuntu: in terminal do host google.com
[05:33] <ianm1> nownott: ahh, in that case I recommend you hit a #linux or a #debian, it's more focused on the hardcore command line stuff
[05:33] <usser> davubuntu: does it show info about google ips etc
[05:33] <lomez> man, i dont think they did a good job on gutsy, or at least the upgrade. i am having all kinds of problems
[05:33] <davubuntu> jmg, I get output. What do you want me to tell you?
[05:33] <jmg> lomez: reinstall
[05:34] <davubuntu> ussr, yes
[05:34] <kevin_121> Humanzy: try typing "sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel"
[05:34] <davubuntu> usser, yes
[05:34] <canii> hi guys i have an interesting problem
[05:34] <lomez> jmg nah, ive got too much important stuff on here. is there any way to downgrade?
[05:34] <jmg> davubuntu: what is the result?
[05:34] <usser> davubuntu: and it pings fine too?
[05:34] <jmg> lomez: downgrade is not supported. did you use automatix on your old install?
[05:34] <lomez> jmg no
[05:34] <davubuntu> however, right now I have a connection.
[05:34] <jmg> lomez: reinstall to a different partition
[05:34] <co_cool_fz> #irc.plasa.com
[05:34] <davubuntu> I don't know how long it will last though
[05:34] <canii> i cant burn iso image right somehow
[05:34] <spacewrench> jmg: d'you think a reinstall would fix LiveCD network OK, 7.10 network drops many packets?
[05:35] <Humanzy> there was no output
[05:35] <lomez> jmg but for example, now ive got two different sessions, Gnome, and Gnome with XGL. but both of them load up Beryl now
[05:35] <jmg> spacewrench: possibly, are there any open bugs in launchpad?
[05:35] <lomez> so i cant get any hardware acceleration
[05:35] <jmg> lomez: that is broken
[05:35] <pyr3> Upgrading to Gutsy screwed up my "default pointer" cursor theme.  The DMZ and HumanAzul2 themes are still there, but GDM and XFCE won't see them.
[05:35] <spacewrench> jmg: haven't found any that match.
[05:35] <jmg> lomez: you must have had a third party package
[05:35] <davubuntu> jmg, okay I just loaded firefox and now the machines have all lost connection
[05:35] <pyr3> Gnome does though.
[05:35] <pyr3> :-\
[05:35] <nownott> wtf when i type startx i get cannot start /etc/x11/x
[05:35] <old-ass_p2> hey, I have a noobish openoffice question. what function would I use to devide collumn 2(gross pay) by 3 to get collumn 3(taxes)?
[05:36] <jmg> davubuntu: ok so what does the console do now?
[05:36] <lomez> jmg isnt beryl a third party package?
[05:36] <spacewrench> jmg: (I posted one, but no joy yet)
[05:36] <canii> guys gusy
[05:36] <davubuntu> jmg, same thing
[05:36] <Humanzy> i think beryl comes with gutsy
[05:36] <kevin_121> Humanzy: try and test something to see if you have sound now. remember to unmute thins. theoretically that should load your soundcard
[05:36] <canii> whats the right way to burn the iso image
[05:36] <Humanzy> alright
[05:36] <jmg> davubuntu: telnet www.google.com 80
[05:36] <jmg> GET /
[05:36] <spacewrench> old-ass_p2: try =c2/3
[05:36] <hydrogen> old-ass_p2: you should be able to do = (click on the first cell)/3 while having cell 3 selected
[05:36] <jmg> GET / HTTP/1.0
[05:36] <hydrogen> do that on one row.. then fill down
[05:36] <macogw> lomez: beryl in feisty was in ubuntu's repos, unless you were using ati with xgl in which case you were using beryl's 3rd party repo
[05:37] <canii> i cant burn gutsy iso to cd
[05:37] <xnitebreedx> !compiz
[05:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[05:37] <canii> it gives error everytime
[05:37] <lomez> arg
[05:37] <Auslegung> I have mp3, AAC, and DRMed WMA that I'd like to play.  What media player do you suggest?
[05:37] <lomez> thanks
[05:37] <irieKEN> canii, you burning from windows or Linux?
[05:37] <Bonster> wat buring software u using?
[05:37] <macogw> lomez: uninstall beryl
[05:37] <davubuntu> jmg,  "Trying <IP_ADDRESS>...
[05:37] <davubuntu> Connected to www.l.google.com.
[05:37] <davubuntu> Escape character is '^]'.
[05:37] <davubuntu> "
[05:37] <Humanzy> i still don't have anything
[05:37] <hydrogen> Auslegung: you willl not be able to play anything with drm
[05:37] <canii> winwows
[05:38] <irieKEN> canii: go get imgburn from imgburn.com...
[05:38] <Bonster> nero?
[05:38] <macogw> canii: get the windows xp power toy
[05:38] <irieKEN> It will handle everything for you.
[05:38] <jmg> davubuntu: type GET / HTTP/1.0
[05:38] <jmg> in the session
[05:38] <canii> i have vista
[05:38] <macogw> canii: or, get better blank cds
[05:38] <macogw> canii: oh.  ew.
[05:38] <Humanzy> would it effect it that i had an mp3 on playback while entering that command?
[05:38] <lomez> sigh, now ive gotta reset all the settings
[05:38] <macogw> lomez: you would have to anyway
[05:38] <macogw> lomez: beryl and compiz fusion put their settings in different places.  they changed too much to keep the settings
[05:38] <irieKEN> canii: Again, go grab imgburn, it works with Vista.
[05:38] <jmg> davubuntu: any output?
[05:38] <kevin_121> Humanzy: that should mean theres is a problem with your drivers themselves, I would try reinstalling them from source from alsa-project.org
[05:38] <davubuntu> jmg, oh sorry. Done... what's supposed to happen...
[05:39] <Bonster> hammer to pc
[05:39] <davubuntu> jmg, no nothing
[05:39] <canii> ok
[05:39] <lomez> alright, how would i install Compiz Fusion now?
[05:39] <RabidWeezle> internet connection sharing, who knows how to do it?
[05:39] <qmf> hi there, is there a way to run an application on usb connection? i would like to load gnome-obex-server when i plug in my bluetooth dongle, and possibly terminate the application when it's unplugged. any ideas?
[05:39] <macogw> lomez: it's installed by default
[05:39] <canii> ill try that
[05:39] <canii> ill be bak
[05:39] <ianm1> anyone doing OpenSoundControl stuff in ubuntu?
[05:39] <canii> thanks
[05:39] <Whisperkiller> anyone in here play eve online?
[05:39] <macogw> lomez: i suggest installing compizconfig-settings-manager to be able to have more control
[05:39] <Humanzy> alright thank you
[05:39] <jmg> davubuntu: push enter twice
[05:39] <nownott> how do i install the desktop i dont think gnome is installed
[05:39] <lomez> ok macogw, but how do i disable composite rendering so i use hardware acceleration?
[05:39] <macogw> lomez: http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2007/10/compiz-fusion-notification-area-icon.html if you want a notification area icon (like beryl's gem)
[05:40] <davubuntu> jmg, done... nothing
[05:40] <kevin_121> nownott: why do you say that?
[05:40] <nownott> nvm i got it i think. when i did install gnome it had 400+ packages to install
[05:40] <macogw> lomez: idk.  what kind of card do you have?
[05:40] <lomez> ATI x300 radeon, i think, not sure
[05:40] <RabidWeezle> has anyone succesfully setup internet connection sharing?
[05:40] <prohna> whats fluxbox
[05:41] <kevin_121> nownott: gnome should come and install automatically with ubuntu
[05:41] <RabidWeezle> fluxbox is a window manager like blackbox...
[05:41] <nownott> i ahve the server edition if that matters any
[05:41] <macogw> fluxbox <3
[05:41] <RabidWeezle> it's simplistic
[05:41]  * prohna just upgraded to gutsy gibbon
[05:41] <kevin_121> prohna: fluxbox is a lightweight window manager
[05:41] <old-ass_p2> got error messages when I tried =c2/3
[05:41] <RabidWeezle> fluxbox is great for speed
[05:41]  * lomez is going nuts from gutsy, messed up firefox, beryl, my fstab settings, aya
[05:41] <irieKEN> Prohna: http://www.google.com/search?q=fluxbox
[05:41] <prohna> is there a benefit to it?
[05:41] <kevin_121> highly configurable
[05:41] <prohna> what are the cons?
[05:42] <kevin_121> you have to configure it :)
[05:42] <macogw> lomez: ati anything newer than radeon 9250 needs xgl to do the compositing.  i think the X series is the one that's being just plain craptastic though (at least, it was in feisty)
[05:42] <prohna> i see
[05:42] <matx> lol lomez
[05:42] <prohna> that is a con for me lol
[05:42] <hydrogen> fluxbox is not really a good choice for most users
[05:42] <obso> ubutnu really sucks
[05:42] <obso> and i will never use it after this upgrade
[05:42] <Humanzy> what's the make of the STAC 92xx?
[05:42] <obso> k thix
[05:42] <hydrogen> its really really really stoneage in terms of configuration
[05:42] <lomez> macogw so i cant have my cake and eat it too anymore, huh.
[05:42] <matx> fluxbox is really useful for kernel hackers tbf
[05:42] <hydrogen> obso: thanks for the feedback!
[05:42] <spacewrench> old-ass_p2: sorry, it's something close to that. Try clicking in the cell where you want the result, type = then click the cell you want to divide.  That should pop a cell name into the text bar.  Put "/3" after that, then return.
[05:42] <macogw> lomez: well i dont know how it works
[05:42] <hydrogen> err
[05:42] <kevin_121> Humanzy: sigmatel
[05:42] <lomez> damnit i should not have upgrade
[05:42] <lomez> d
[05:43] <prohna> i only asked cause i was looking at gnome themes and saw one i really liked
[05:43] <macogw> lomez: you could ask in #ubuntu-effects and see if someone there knows about a way to do both
[05:43] <prohna> but it was fluxbox
[05:43] <hydrogen> I'm not really sure what a desktop has to do with programming for the kernel
[05:43] <Humanzy> thank you
[05:43] <hydrogen> but!
[05:43] <jmg_> lomez: its not ubuntus fault
[05:43] <mrunagi> is it just me or is epiphany slow
[05:43] <hydrogen> its slow.
[05:43] <hydrogen> its built on the same core as firefox
[05:43] <hydrogen> what do youe xpect
[05:43] <jmg_> poor obso
[05:43] <nefoia> expect
[05:43] <matx> hydrogen, fluxbox uses low resources ^_^
[05:43] <usser> too bad opera isnt oss
[05:43] <hydrogen> matx: so what?
[05:43] <toodlez> how do i download compfiz?
[05:44] <matx> quote handy if you want to optimise kernel code ^_^
[05:44] <hydrogen> opera is still the best browser out there currently
[05:44] <matx> *quite
[05:44] <usser> yep
[05:44] <hydrogen> matx: err.. that makes no sense
[05:44] <node357> opera isn't best for me... too complicated
[05:44] <nefoia> has safari been ported to linux yet?
[05:44] <hydrogen> optimizing kernel code because your desktop uses low resources?
[05:44] <jmg_> hydrogen: let the wookie win
[05:44] <matx> :(
[05:44] <prohna> 500+ homes lost in san diego so far
[05:44] <chaosrl> toodlez: synaptic package manager search for "compiz"
[05:44] <davubuntu> jmg, I hit enter twice.... nothing happened. What do I do now?
[05:44] <jmg_> nefoia: no but there is a webkit based browser i forget its name
[05:44] <RabidWeezle> blah, tell me no one here has ever setup a dhcp server or setup internet connection sharing?
[05:44] <xnitebreedx> :\
[05:44] <hydrogen> nefoia: qt will have a webkit based browser (and theres one in the works for gtk) soon
[05:44] <usser> 1 minute before i go to sleep
[05:44] <jmg_> davubuntu: here is what it looks like on my side http://www.pastebin.org/5659
[05:45]  * LiMaO trying some other linux distro's using virtualbox
[05:45] <mrunagi> my god ubuntu now randomly dims my lcd screen
[05:45] <mrunagi> why
[05:45] <node357> never set up ICS for a GNU/Linux machine before
[05:45] <mrunagi> WHY!?
[05:45] <spacewrench> Rabid: long time ago, dhcp.  no internet connections haring on Ubuntu
[05:45] <macogw> lomez: could you do it on feisty?
[05:45] <usser> RabidWeezle: search google for bridging thats one way or packet forwarding the other
[05:45] <eyemean> ive forgotton how to list usb device sin linux
[05:45] <kevin_121> thatsss very odd mrunagi
[05:45] <hydrogen> lsusb
[05:45] <matx> lsusb
[05:45] <usser> RabidWeezle: i only did it the first way
[05:45] <matx> :( beat me to it :P
[05:45] <lomez> macogw yes, i just had to switch between XGL and non-XGL sessions
[05:45] <red22> how do i access a graphical process manager pls?
[05:45] <eyemean> cheers hydrogen
[05:45] <macogw> nefoia: that's pretty much what konqueror is, except the other way around.  safari is based on konqueror's rendering engine
[05:45] <chaosrl> does anyone know how to get steam to work in gutsy?
[05:45] <RabidWeezle> bridging will work ehh?
[05:45] <mrunagi> theres got to be a setting somewhere thats doing it
[05:45] <usser> RabidWeezle: u have to have bridge utils installed
[05:45] <prohna> i dont like the gnome version of xchat
[05:45] <LiMaO> red22: open system monitor
[05:45] <LiMaO> red22: system > administration > system monitor
[05:45] <davubuntu> jmg, of course, I can't look at that because my connection is gone.
[05:46] <jmg_> davubuntu: :(
[05:46] <node357> chaosrl, wine or cedega
[05:46] <nefoia> macogw: i wasn't aware of that
[05:46] <kevin_121> my brightness settings reset on start-up.. brightness is evil
[05:46] <node357> cedega costs money
[05:46] <red22> LiMaO: got it, ty
[05:46] <matx> chalcedony, use wine, dont use cedega
[05:46] <spacewrench> whoa, too many peoples!  you kids are too fast for me!
[05:46] <chaosrl> i actually have it installed through wine
[05:46] <matx> cedegais a rip off
[05:46] <chaosrl> it's just i can't get it to run
[05:46] <LiMaO> red22: remember that sometimes your gui may hang aswell.. then you gotta use 'top' on a terminal to kill some process
[05:46] <macogw> nefoia: yep, it's KHTML, and then Safari uses Webkit which is a framework built on KHTML
[05:46] <nefoia> i'll get 7.10 running on my macbook if and when i find myself bothered
[05:46] <node357> yeah it is matx... virtually nothing works with it
[05:46] <chaosrl> it locks up when the "install gecko" window comes up
[05:46] <usser> RabidWeezle: it should
[05:46] <RabidWeezle> can I bridge to a router via eth0 and get my net on wireless with bridging? usser
[05:46] <macogw> nefoia: lots of apps in OSX are built on Webkit
[05:46] <riotkittie> perhaps it'd work better if more people were willing to contribute
[05:47] <matx> theres some good tutorials on google for installing steam
[05:47] <ujamaatech> I'm using ubuntustudio and I can't play CD's
[05:47] <nefoia> i wonder if 7.10 supports it properly
[05:47] <macogw> riotkittie: to what?
[05:47] <nefoia> macogw: that's rather interesting
[05:47] <usser> RabidWeezle: dont really understand what are u trying to do
[05:47] <chaosrl> i followed one
[05:47] <node357> chaosrl, it migth work without gecko, try to cancel out of gecko installation
[05:47] <usser> RabidWeezle: sorry i gotta catch some sleep
[05:47] <chaosrl> well, i did that in feisty, but the whole window locks up in gutsy
[05:47] <RabidWeezle> lol
[05:47] <RabidWeezle> k
[05:47] <node357> that means that the news flashes won't appear in Steam
[05:47] <ujamaatech> I'm a newbie
[05:47] <node357> ugh
[05:47] <davubuntu> jmg, so does it sound like my machine is doing this to you? I mean symptomatically it appears to be. I log into XP it works fine. I log into gutsy it works fine for 10-15mins then everything goes haywire.
[05:48] <chaosrl> lol
[05:48] <chaosrl> ought it try to uninstall and reinstall?
[05:48] <macogw> ujamaatech: so is most of the channel
[05:48] <riotkittie> macogw: cedega
[05:48] <Omneh> Hey there, I have a Realtek 8185, I have heard via the bug list that you can't hook up to encrypted wireless networks with it.  Indeed, I seem to be getting a kernel panic whenever I try.  Any good ideas for making this work?  Is there a fix or a workaround?  I have attempted to use ndiswrapper; however, I got an invalid driver error, I assume this has something to do with the driver being one made for vista.
[05:48] <macogw> riotkittie: its closed source
[05:48] <node357> maybe chaosrl
[05:48] <macogw> Omneh: maybe ndiswrapper + windows driver?
[05:48] <riotkittie> macogw: really? oh in that case, cedega sucks.
[05:48] <chaosrl> does using "uninstaller" in terminal completely uninstall the programs?
[05:48] <macogw> Omneh: nevermind. i dont read
[05:49] <kevin_121> 0mneh: is there an xp driver?
[05:49] <aldraughan> haha
[05:49] <mrunagi> ubuntu teases me
[05:49] <matx> steam works fine for me in wine 0.9.47 :D
[05:49] <mrunagi> just letting you know
[05:49] <Omneh> kevin_121, not to my knowledge, there isn't one on the Gateway website.
[05:49] <red22> ok so i think i read somewhere that it should be perfectly safe to write to your ntfs drives (winxp) from linux now (7.10) ?
[05:49] <Omneh> But that's not saying much at all.
[05:49] <ujamaatech> can some one help
[05:49] <nefoia> but is 7.10 a 'great' improvement from 7.04?
[05:49] <chaosrl> matx: 0.9.47? is that newer than 0.9.46?
[05:49] <Venomous> is there any way to define a software raid setup using gparted?
[05:50] <matx> apparently it is chalcedony
[05:50] <macogw> riotkittie: it uses Wine libraries, but Wine is LGPL so they can link to Wine without releasing their other code (just modifications to Wine's libraries)
[05:50] <davubuntu> jmg, do you have any other advice as to what I can do? Should I just post a forum entry and hope someone has an idea there. I just don't even know where to start.
[05:50] <LiMaO> nefoia: 7.10 is great. it just doesn't work properly yet ;)
[05:50] <mrunagi> when is ubuntu 8.04 out
[05:50] <matx> the numbers are a good hint
[05:50] <macogw> red22: yes
[05:50] <lomez> red32, with ntfs-3g if was perfect for 7.04
[05:50] <ianm1> nefoia: incremental improvement...
[05:50] <jmg_> davubuntu: im inclined to blame an upstream proxy
[05:50] <Venomous> mrunagi: april 2008
[05:50] <nefoia> :P
[05:50] <mrunagi> i like 7.10 i just really wish hibernation would  work
[05:50] <riotkittie> ahh macogw :T
[05:50] <LiMaO> mrunagi: by 04 (April) 2008, as the version number suggests
[05:50] <jmg_> what about if you turn off all your other machines, does the connection still dorp?
[05:50] <davubuntu> jmg, meaning at the isp level?
[05:50] <jmg_> drop*
[05:50] <jacquesmerde> yo, my monitor conks out with "out of range" about 4 seconds into boot...does this correspond to X beign started VERY early? or the boot loader passing onto linux a little late?
[05:50] <macogw> chaosrl: of course. is 47 > 46?
[05:50] <ujamaatech> Im using ubuntustudio
[05:50] <LiMaO> probably 24th April
[05:51] <mrunagi> version number suggest?
[05:51] <izz> 7.10 wont even install on my computer :(
[05:51] <izz> "not enough HD space, it says :(
[05:51] <jmg_> izz: try the alternate cd?
[05:51] <matx> lol
[05:51] <aldraughan> yeah my display does the same thing
[05:51] <matx> use a smaller distro :P
[05:51] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: was that to me?
[05:51] <LiMaO> mrunagi: if you haven't noticed, the version numbers mean the YEAR . the MONTH
[05:51] <macogw> izz: can't install to a floppy disk these days :p
[05:51] <node357> web site says you need 4 GB..
[05:51] <mrunagi> i didnt notice
[05:51] <izz> i tried upgrading through my current install
[05:51] <chaosrl> macogw: yeah, that was a dumb question.
[05:51] <izz> really? cuz it told me i needed 16 gb free
[05:51] <red22> macogw + lomez: ty. just trying to spare future grief... does 7.10 use ntfs-3g by default now?
[05:51] <jmg_> davubuntu: thats the only thing i can think of
[05:52] <node357> ouch
[05:52] <nefoia> 'm just looking for a distro i can develop on with my macbook
[05:52] <macogw> red22: yes
[05:52] <jmg_> davubuntu: very very bizarre
[05:52] <node357> I think 4 gb is for a fresh install, not an upgrade.. maybe?
[05:52] <macogw> izz: that's silly.  i installed it on a 5gb hard drive before
[05:52] <lomez> red22 i believe 7.10 has ntfs support out of the box, but not positive
[05:52] <izz> really? now thats weird
[05:52] <gerro> anyone got an app out yet to brute force every damn .inf file for ndiswrapper? I'm getting sick and tired of these remodeled broadcom wireless devices :(
[05:52] <macogw> izz: you only need 2gb
[05:52] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: no?
[05:52] <davubuntu> jmg, sorry. what's the only thing? trying to turn the other machines off or the upstream proxy thing?
[05:52] <casiox> hallo! after installing gutsy-gibbon i have no windows-borders using using beryl with emerald - can someone help please?
[05:52] <riotkittie> 16gb to upgrade? what they hay do you have installed?!?
[05:52] <aldraughan> sorry, what?
[05:52] <LiMaO> you know what.. i really love ubuntu.. but i gotta admit that i'm testing opensuse on a virtualbox hehe
[05:52] <macogw> izz: my root partition is 2gb.  that computer now runs debian though because debian+e17 is faster than ubuntu
[05:53] <jmg_> davubuntu: both, i cant see how your machine would stop port 80
[05:53] <warriorness> Hey all, which repository contains the package "linux-tree"?
[05:53] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: were you saying you had the same display problem as me? or were you talkign to someone else?
[05:53] <jmg_> warriorness: check packages.ubuntu.com
[05:53] <vbabiy> Hey how can set set a directory that says if any person from the user group has read and wire premission
[05:53] <elninja> Any chance anyone has any idea how I can mute my dv6604nr laptop speakers and use my headphones? or preferably as soon as I plug in my headphones?
[05:53] <aldraughan> yes my display goes out of range right after boot as well, it has a time there before the drivers kick in
[05:54] <riotkittie> virtualbox <3
[05:54] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: what monitor and graphics card do you have?
[05:54] <kevin_121> elninja: so headphone jack sensing is not working?
[05:54] <davubuntu> jmg, okay the other mahcines are off and now my firefox pages are loading
[05:54] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: i get around it by booting via recovery mode, you?
[05:54] <aldraughan> nvidia with viewsonic
[05:54] <izz> hmm strange
[05:54] <davubuntu> jmg, I hit reload and it's all back.
[05:54] <casiox> after installing gutsy-gibbon i have no window-borders using beryl with emerald - can someone help please?
[05:54] <aldraughan> i ignore it it does come up on its on
[05:54] <jmg_> davubuntu: yay
[05:54] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: i'm using nvidia too. viewsonic lcd? i've got a dell lcd...
[05:54] <venomousice> is there any way to define a software raid setup using gparted?
[05:55] <aldraughan> yes lcd
[05:55] <jmg_> venomousice: its not defined in gparted
[05:55] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: oh, i get out of range and thats it
[05:55] <davubuntu> jmg, ... sort of yay! what about the other mahcines? One is my girlfriends and the other is my son's and we all need them at the same time.
[05:55] <macogw> casiox: reload emerald?
[05:55] <red22> macogw + lomez: yeah ntfs-3g is installed by default in 7.10 BUT, how can i verify that my windows mounts are using this driver/package to be absolutely sure pls?  fstab only says type "ntfs" not something calming like "ntfs-3g" so i'm not sure.
[05:55] <aldraughan> ububtu and suse where the only two distros i got to work with my graffix card
[05:55] <philwhln> hi, gutsy gibbon upgrade left me with a really slow rendering screen. scrolling in windows is really slow
[05:55] <lomez> red22, i couldnt tell you, im having problems with ntfs on gutsy myself
[05:55] <venomousice> jmg: let me rephrase. Can I create and change a software raid in gparted?
[05:56] <macogw> red22: try to write to it. if you get permission denied, it's not in-use. if you don't, you're dandy
[05:56] <aldraughan> oh sorry to hear that mine comes up after like 20 seconds
[05:56] <eyemean> hi i been trying to find easy cam to install but i think all versions are french which i wont be able to understand, cn any1 help pls/
[05:56] <jmg_> red22: dmesg
[05:56] <aldraughan> wait a little longer on next boot and see
[05:56] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: so your monitor conks out when its finished with the bootloader and goes back when the X graphics driver taks over?
[05:56] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: which exact nvidia card do you have?
[05:56] <aldraughan> yes it comes back when drivers load, an nvidia screen apears forst
[05:57] <robbster1> Hello, I am having trouble installing my sound drivers on Ubuntu
 : reloading window-manager or window-decorator doesn't work :-(
[05:57] <aldraughan> i have old card, old geforce
[05:57] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: ah, maybe i should try waiting longer.
[05:57] <red22> jmg_: dmesg | grep ntfs returns nothing...
[05:57] <eek> hi all
[05:57] <aldraughan> this an old pIII machine here
[05:57] <prohna> anyone else have a problem with firefox right after installing gibbon?
[05:57] <macogw> red22: what about grep fuse?
[05:58] <aldraughan> yeah wait a little longer it wil load
[05:58] <prohna> wont let me download anything
[05:58] <izz> has anyone used xubuntu?
[05:58] <eek> i need a hand mv a file in a terminal
[05:58] <old-ass_p2> is there a function in openoffice to get a dropdown box?
[05:58] <izz> or is that completely different
[05:58] <prohna> XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
[05:58] <prohna> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/unknownContentType.xul
[05:58] <prohna> Line Number 1, Column 7:Target(mimeSource, valueProperty, true);
[05:58] <prohna> ------^
[05:58] <node357> izz, I've used Xubuntu, it's nice, but games don't work right on it
[05:58] <monkey__> which package is the on, where i can right-click inside a gnome windows, and say open terminal (run terminal in current directory)>
[05:58] <monkey__> ?
[05:58] <robbster1> hELLO?
[05:58] <robbster1> Hello?*
[05:58] <red22> macogw: yes that returns something about "fuse init" and version
[05:58] <robbster1> i need help with my sound drivers
[05:58] <kevin_121> elninja: updating alsa should make hp jack sensing work
[05:58] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: i have an old geforce too! i have a geforce4 mx420, you?
[05:59] <red22> macogw: what does that mean / what is fuse?
[05:59] <jmg_> !sound
[05:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:59] <davubuntu> jmg, so... what does this mean to you? The other mahcines are running feisty and edgy
[05:59] <ianm1> anyone doing OpenSoundControl stuff in ubuntu?
[05:59] <aldraughan> sec ill look
[05:59] <PurpZeY> Can anyone recommend a package or software that I can use to identify wifi networks in my area, and see what frequency they are on, so I know where I'll get the least interruption?
[05:59] <omegaweopon> Is there any way to emulate MAC OS X  on linux, much like I did windows with virtualbox?
[05:59] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: (lspci)
[05:59] <macogw> red22: fuse has to do with filesystems. i know ntfs-3g uses it
[05:59] <jmg_> davubuntu: FIIK
[05:59] <xJonnyx134> does anyone know why i might be having problems loading into ubuntu? i have it installed via the alternate CD because it would seem nothing graphical was loading and now I am having the exact same problem trying to actually boot into it after it is installed.
[05:59] <jmg_> PurpZeY: kismet
[05:59] <ninnemana> can anyone tell me why i get this error when running ccsm from command line "AttributeError: 'compizconfig.Plugin' object has no attribute 'Initialized'"?
[05:59] <kevin_121> anyone know why my some icons wont show up on my desktop (trashcan/home/volumes) but folders will
[05:59] <xJonnyx134> if that made any sense..
[05:59] <jmg_> xJonnyx134: what graphics card?
[06:00] <myusrnm> i i need to view a page with shockwave, how can i do this in ubuntu?
[06:00] <antiwhack> anyone else upgrade to gutsy and have their wireless fail on them?
[06:00] <xJonnyx134> 8800gts
[06:00]  * eek waves hello & has ?
[06:00] <davubuntu> jmg, FIIK too.
[06:00] <mrunagi>  how do you empty the trash in terminal
[06:00] <elninja> thanks kevin_121
[06:00] <aldraughan> yeah gforce2 4oo
[06:00] <jmg_> xJonnyx134: you might need to install another nvidia driver for that, i dont know which
[06:00] <jmg_> !nvdia
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvdia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <jmg_> !nvidia
[06:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:00] <macogw> mrunagi: rm -rf ~/.Trash
[06:00] <Alien18> how do i search for a file in my hard drive please?
[06:00] <power78> does anyone know how to enable digital audio out?
[06:00] <davubuntu> jmg, what was that thing you said about dhcp again?
[06:01] <omegaweopon> Is it possible to run MAC OS X in virtualbox?
[06:01] <prakriti> how can I change the resolution of the desktop on the livecd?
[06:01] <csc`> omegaweopon: no
[06:01] <xJonnyx134> how would i install a different driver for something i cannt load into?
[06:01] <macogw> omegaweopon: not legally
[06:01] <jmg_> davubuntu: i wondered if your machine was running dhcpd. ps aux |grep dhcpd
[06:01] <aldraughan> everything works great after drive kicks in
[06:01] <kevin_121> Alien18: places->search for files
[06:01] <aldraughan> driver*
[06:01] <scriptdevil> prakriti: ctrl alt +
[06:01] <xJonnyx134> woudl it make a difference that i am running a dual boot of windows?
[06:01] <navaburo> during a from source compile I get checking for X... no
[06:01] <ianm1> mrunagi: be very careful with such commands :D
[06:01] <prakriti> it tries to boot at 1024x768 but my screen can only handle 800x600
[06:01] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: i assume if you booted into recovery mode, you'd be fine like me. i'm trying to find out from someone here the difference in graphics between recovery mode and vanilla mode, but noone will tell me
[06:01] <navaburo> How do I install XLib to make it happy
[06:01] <mrunagi> ?
[06:01] <prakriti> scriptdevil : I need to do it at boot time
[06:01] <philwhln> how do i reinstall the drivers to Intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device? The screen seems to be rendering really slowly since my upgrade to gutsy
[06:01] <robbster1> that sound thing didn't work
[06:01] <ianm1> mrunagi: don't mistype it!
[06:01] <jmg_> navaburo: apt-get install the source package
[06:01] <davubuntu> jmg, "dave     10510  0.0  0.0   4780  1388 pts/0    R+   23:01   0:00 grep dhcpd
[06:01] <davubuntu> "
[06:01] <scriptdevil> well.. i dont get you
[06:01] <prakriti> scriptdevil : can i force it? is there a kernel switch?
[06:01] <mrunagi> i copied and pasted
[06:01] <myusrnm> i need to view a page with shockwave, how can i do this in ubuntu?
[06:01] <aldraughan> youll get an nvidia screen first then computer loads
[06:02] <scriptdevil> yeah.... i suppose vga=774
[06:02] <davubuntu> jmg, does that look all normal.
[06:02] <kevin_121> myusrnm: are you using gutsy?
[06:02] <aldraughan> im happy the way it is this machine never gets turn off anyways, haha
[06:02] <scriptdevil> i am not sure
[06:02] <omegaweopon> From the looks of it I can emulate it in windows.... but that means I have to emulate windows..... oh god no, I just divided OS's by zero
[06:02] <prakriti> scriptdevil : will that affect X?
[06:02] <macogw> mrunagi: there are commands with very very similar syntax that can delete a lot more than you meant to
[06:02] <scriptdevil> no
[06:02] <eek> i'm moving stuff in a term put canr enter the proper place how does the line complete?  /wp-content/plugins/subscribe2$ mv subscribe2/
[06:02] <robbster1> im running a gateway ml3109, and the sound doesn't work. i don't know how to do the commands, but when i try, all these error messages come up
[06:02] <jmg_> davubuntu: yes
[06:02] <myusrnm> kevin_121, no i'm not on gusty yet
[06:02] <eek> i want it in plugins
[06:02] <macogw> scriptdevil: isnt framebuffer still broken on gutsy?
[06:02] <Gun_Smoke> Is there anyone around to discuss in detail why certain upgrade methods behave differently?  I would like to hear why a clean install is better than gksu "update-manager -c" and why sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard is the least reliable.
[06:02] <scriptdevil> macogw: i dunno
[06:02] <amagle> amagle
[06:03] <amagle> jjjjjj
[06:03] <robbster1> im running a gateway ml3109, and the sound doesn't work. i don't know how to do the commands, but when i try, all these error messages come up
[06:03] <jacquesmerde>  aldraughan: yeah, me too. but it still bothers me. i must be anal
[06:03] <aldraughan> the only diference is the 3d accelleration has been disabled and the all the perks removed from os
[06:03] <kevin_121> myusrnm: then I recommend u download a program called automatix. It will help you install flash
[06:03] <PurpZeY> jmg_: Last time when I read the description, it said kismet only identified B networks, that just inaccurate?
[06:03] <macogw> scriptdevil: i had to disable framebuffer because the tty's run but there's no text on them if framebuffer's enabled. i dont know if that's been fixed since beta though
[06:03] <davubuntu> jmg, okay. I will go post a forum comment and hope for the best. Thanks so much for trying. Cheers
[06:03] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: once i'm in X i'm fine, can run full effects with compiz, etc..
[06:03] <amagle> there not's man
[06:03] <robbster1> im running a gateway ml3109, and the sound doesn't work. i don't know how to do the commands, but when i try, all these error messages come up
[06:03] <scriptdevil> macogw: i gave a solution.. i never needed a greater resolution for my vte
[06:03] <amagle> exit
[06:03] <amagle> exit
[06:03] <Gun_Smoke> What I'm getting at is... If Linux is built on modules and packages.. why does it matter how they are obtained?
[06:03] <amagle> bye
[06:03] <jmg_> PurpZeY: it definately does G
[06:04] <PurpZeY> k thx
[06:04] <scriptdevil> Gun_Smoke: well.. if all food was carbohdrates and proteins, why does it matter if it was chinese or indian?
[06:04] <jmg_> PurpZeY: even does N
[06:04] <robbster1> Can someone please help me? im running a gateway ml3109, and the sound doesn't work. i don't know how to do the commands, but when i try, all these error messages come up
[06:04] <aldraughan> just try waiting longer on your next boot, it will come up, i just about bet on it, it takes a moment and it be all good
[06:04] <scriptdevil> robbster1: checked alsamixer if mute wasnt on?
[06:04] <PurpZeY> jmg_: is it in the repos?
[06:04] <robbster1> aldraughan, are you talking to me?
[06:04] <aldraughan> sure
[06:04] <red22> macogw: alright i found fuse+nfts-3g project site and am looking into these. thnx for the info.
[06:04] <aldraughan> haha
[06:05] <robbster1> its not on mute
[06:05] <jmg_> PurpZeY: yes
[06:05] <jacquesmerde> does the "screen and graphics" part of administration effect ONLY X???
[06:05] <robbster1> its something to do with the drivers
[06:05] <robbster1> hello?
[06:06] <jacquesmerde> aldraughan: i'm gonna reboot now and see!
[06:06] <nownott> i just did apt-get install gnome but i still cant startx
[06:06] <aldraughan> cool man good luck
[06:06] <scriptdevil> robbster1: well.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511876
[06:06] <macogw> jacquesmerde: what *else* would it affect?
[06:06] <aldraughan> afk sec
[06:06] <riotkittie> Y maybe. possibly Z.
[06:06] <riotkittie> har har. i am so not funny. <shuts up>
[06:06] <robbster1> ive already looked at this forum, i don't know how to run the commands, but when i do, all the error messages come up
[06:06] <macogw> nownott: do you have gdm?
[06:06] <jacquesmerde> macogw: i'm having bad display problems BEFORE X is even loaded..
[06:07] <macogw> nownott: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:07] <Gun_Smoke> scriptdevil: so you agree
[06:07] <kevin_121> robbster1: what error messages? (pastebin)
[06:07] <macogw> jacquesmerde: that's framebuffer.  it's broken in gutsy AFAIk
[06:07] <robbster1> umm, just a sec
[06:07] <macogw> jacquesmerde: it was broken as of a week and a half ago
[06:07] <philwhln> how do i reinstall the drivers to Intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device? The screen seems to be rendering really slowly since my upgrade to gutsy. i heard someone mention framebuffer is broken. could it be that?
[06:07] <riotkittie> if you dont know how to run commands... ah forget it. !pastebin your errors and tell us what your sound device is (lspci if youre unsure)
[06:07] <munk__> what does apt-get build-dep do?
[06:07] <scriptdevil> Gun_Smoke: no i dont.. i personally dislike certain types of packaging
[06:07] <macogw> philwhln: framebuffer is only in tty and before X starts
[06:07] <robbster1> do i use 'terminal' for the commands?
[06:07] <Clutchsama> anyone have a moment to help?
[06:07] <jacquesmerde> macogw: yeah, exactly. does it effect the framebuffer? i would presume all those settings are in grub to be passed to the kernel
[06:08] <omneh> Hey there, I have a Realtek 8185, I have heard via the bug list that you can't hook up to encrypted wireless networks with it.  Indeed, I seem to be getting a kernel panic whenever I try.  Any good ideas for making this work?  Is there a fix or a workaround?  I have attempted to use ndiswrapper; however, I upon attempting to connect again it locked up again, is there any way to make sure that you're using the ndiswrapped driver automagically?
[06:08] <scriptdevil> robbster1: of course
[06:08] <robbster1> ok
[06:08] <philwhln> macogw: ah ok, thanks
[06:08] <macogw> jacquesmerde: framebuffer is sent in grub. if you enable it there, it will disable your tty
[06:08] <riotkittie> omneh: blacklist the other driver
[06:08] <davubuntu> jmg, additional info: I just lost my connection again. I decided to try unchecking enable networking and then reenable it. and I got the connection back. Does that help?
[06:08] <Clutchsama> i finished my install of ubuntu, and now it's rebooted
[06:08] <macogw> philwhln: use the screens and graphics thing to pick the driver. you should probably use the i810 driver
[06:08] <omneh> riotkittie, how?
[06:08] <riotkittie> omneh: add blacklist drivername to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:08] <munk__> what does apt-get build-dep do?
[06:08] <Alien18> how do i create a passworded archive that a windows user could access (zip or rar)
[06:08] <robbster1> tar: alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:08] <robbster1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:08] <robbster1> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:08] <robbster1> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:09] <scriptdevil> munk__: tried man apt-get?
[06:09] <scriptdevil>        build-dep
[06:09] <scriptdevil>            build-dep causes apt-get to install/remove packages in an attempt
[06:09] <scriptdevil>            to satisfy the build dependencies for a source package.
[06:09] <kevin_121> robbster1: what command was that? that is for installing alsa from source
[06:09] <jacquesmerde> macogw: hold on, ubuntu doesn't seem to use a framebuffer by default. what are you talking about?
[06:09] <Gun_Smoke> scriptdevil: Why have different types.  To stay with your food analogy, doen't really matter how we eat it.. It's all going to the same place.... Right?
[06:10] <bullgard4> How many thermal sensors does the Intel Pentium M processor have?
[06:10] <kevin_121> robbster1: and you need to download that package to do that. but that may not be necessary just yet
[06:10] <philwhln> macogw: yeah, it seems to be set to i810 ok
[06:10] <munk__> scriptdevil but does it do it even if everything is ok? or that only installs packages that i need and i dont have?
[06:10] <robbster1> the forum tells me to follow the instructions, so i just assumed put in these commands...
[06:10] <robbster1> tar xfj alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1.tar.bz2
[06:10] <kevin_121> *file not package
[06:10] <scriptdevil> robbster1: download the package first
[06:10] <macogw> philwhln: the "intel" driver might also work, but it makes ugly screen corruption when X is killed
[06:10] <kevin_121> robbster1: thats telling you to extract the files from that archive
[06:10] <robbster1> i have downloaded all the packages it tells me to
[06:10] <robbster1> oic
[06:10] <macogw> philwhln: when X starts back up, it goes back to normal though
[06:10] <robbster1> ok
[06:10] <kevin_121> robbster1: are you in the same folder as the archive
[06:10] <logyati> hello
[06:11] <Alien18> is it possible to create a passworded archive that a windows user could extract please? (rar or zip)
[06:11] <eek> hi little help on a path line please
[06:11] <vladim> is anyone having toruble with a very bad picture during video playback on gutsy? any pointers on forum posts to read to fix it?
[06:11] <logyati> i have to export an variable right after i login
[06:11] <logyati> wich file should i edit?
[06:11] <scriptdevil> well.. munk_ what you need is built
[06:11] <aldraughan> exit
[06:11] <philwhln> macogw: thanks. i'll give it a try
[06:11] <sirjoebob> anyone get kiba dock running in gutsy???
[06:12] <troopperi_> Alien18:yep. use 7-zip progr
[06:12] <logyati> sirjoebob, use awn :D
[06:12] <munk__> scriptdevil so do i need to do that or not?
[06:12] <eek> i'm looking to move wordpress/wp-content/plugins/subscribe2$ mv subscribe2/
[06:12] <eek> in to plugins
[06:12] <kevin_121> awn-curves is sexy
[06:12] <eek> can't finish the path correctly
[06:12] <sirjoebob> logyati, i will give you a shot... sell me on AWN over kiba :)
[06:12] <logyati> hehe
[06:13] <scriptdevil> munk__: i think i missed your conv. but.. what do you need it for?
[06:13] <macogw> sirjoebob: kiba is crashy.  awn is not.
[06:13] <sirjoebob> nice
[06:13] <sirjoebob> lol
[06:13] <munk__> scriptdevil im not sure if i need it or not thats what im trying to figure out...
[06:13] <PaPaFD> Anyway to keep AWN from always being on top?
[06:13] <macogw> sirjoebob: last i checked, kiba crashes every time you change a setting
[06:13] <macogw> PaPaFD: it's in the settings
[06:13] <macogw> PaPaFD: you can tell it to be below maximized windows
[06:13] <sirjoebob> i will probably try it. I havent used awn in a while... i had kiba running on 7.04
[06:13] <scriptdevil> well.. munk__ for what purpose?
[06:14] <munk__> scriptdevil lol im a newb i dont even know what it does i read what man apt-get says about it but im not sure what it means and whats it for...if i need to use it for anything or not or when i do..
[06:14] <sirjoebob> how do i install awn?
[06:15] <scriptdevil> munk__: not at the moment
[06:15] <macogw> sirjoebob: there's a howto on ubuntuforums.org
[06:15] <scriptdevil> ok;. people.. am leaving.. catch you later
[06:15] <sirjoebob> macogw, thanks. I will give it a shot
[06:16] <kevin_121> sirjoebob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[06:16] <jacquesmerde> woohoo, i fixed it! where did you go??
[06:16] <logyati> hey pleelp hehease h
[06:16] <munk__> scriptdevil ok now that im here i have one last question...why whenever i go to adept manager and check for updates it says that i have an dist upgrade but whenever i go to upgrade it gives me an "error" and says that my system its up to date and closes it?
[06:16] <PaPaFD> macogw:  that turns on auto hide also
[06:16] <logyati> :D
[06:16] <jacquesmerde> !splash
[06:16] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[06:16] <macogw> PaPaFD: i think they can be done separately..
[06:16] <logyati> !applet
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <jacquesmerde> !splash kernel boot parameter
[06:17] <logyati> hey, i have an applet installed that should appear int "add to panel" window
[06:17] <logyati> how do i put the applet on this list manually?
[06:18] <macogw> PaPaFD: just uncheck "maximized windows dont cover the bar" i think...
[06:19] <Omneh> Hey there, I have a Realtek 8185, I have heard via the bug list that you can't hook up to encrypted wireless networks with it.  Indeed, I seem to be getting a kernel panic whenever I try.  Any good ideas for making this work?  Is there a fix or a workaround?  I have attempted to use ndiswrapper; however, I upon attempting to connect again it locked up again, so I followed some advice and added the offending driver to the blacklist.  I don't h
[06:19] <Omneh> ave wireless now, how can I make sure my ndiswrapped driver loads?
[06:19] <logyati> no one knows how to help me?
[06:19] <logyati> ehehe
[06:20] <PaPaFD> macogw: Thats better  then trying to read through it   thanks
[06:20] <jacquesmerde> is compiz SUPPOSED to not have any borders? it makes it impossible to resize windows...
[06:20] <Omneh> jacquesmerde, run emerald
[06:20] <novanosis> who can remote desktop with me and fix my compiz?
[06:20] <fabio> hello in my ubuntu desappear the butons on top to maximize minimise and close in all windows
[06:21] <jacquesmerde> Omneh: how do i do that? gimme a url so i can rtfm. though i'd rather just go back to metacity so i can be "vanilla"
[06:21] <Omneh> jacquesmerde, then just run metacity
[06:21] <fabio> how to restore?
[06:21] <Omneh> fabio, you should run metacity as well.
[06:21] <fabio> huh?
[06:21] <jacquesmerde> Omneh: done
[06:22] <Omneh> jacquesmerde, fixed?
[06:22] <novanosis> who can remote desktop with me and fix my compiz?
[06:22] <fabio> Omneh u know what butons i talking=???
[06:22] <shawn___> what's the recommendation for migrating from 32bit to 64bit remotely?
[06:22] <fabio> top right
[06:22] <Omneh> fabio, yes, the ones on the border of the window.
[06:22] <fabio> yes
[06:22] <fabio> thats it
[06:22] <eyemean> does any1 know where i can get the older version off skype, 1,4 reacts funy with audio wen watchin tv
[06:22] <Omneh> run metacity fabio.
[06:22] <jacquesmerde> Omneh: yeah, i was already running metacity, i just wanted to know whether i have to give up on the bling. compiz was also bringing up Terminals as completely blank windows...so i just gave up
[06:23] <corevette> how do you print your ssh keys for launchpad
[06:23] <fabio> how Omneh
[06:24] <Omneh> metacity is only a window decorator, jacquesmerde, it shouldn't be preventing or supplanting compiz.
[06:24] <Omneh> Unless it's late and I'm tired and the gnome window decorator is called something different.
[06:24] <Omneh> Which is likely.
[06:24] <MrGreencastl1> Anyone want to tell me why the "Deskbar" applet in Gutsy is in a window now? Or is it just me?
[06:24] <vladim> is anyone having toruble with a very bad picture during video playback on gutsy? any pointers on forum posts to read to fix it? ive tried different players, different video formats..
[06:25] <fabio> i have compiz?
[06:25] <Omneh> But your problem, jacquesmerde, is that you don't have a window decorator running, Kwin, Metacity, and Emerald are the most common ones.
[06:25] <q_a_z_steve> can anyone help me with OpenOffice?
[06:25] <macogw> Omneh: metacity is a window manager
[06:25] <jacquesmerde> Omneh: well, metacity is a window manager, not just a decorator. my understanding was that compiz replaces metacity, not emrely augments it, but i may be wrong
[06:25] <macogw> Omneh: gtk-window-decorator is the window decorator
[06:25] <aliase> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop from a base installed system, but everytime I tried to install it asked for my cd, and the cd is kind of corrupted, so is there anyway to change it to a network install?
[06:25] <Omneh> macogw, thanks.
[06:25] <Omneh> jacquesmerde, run that.
[06:25] <macogw> jacquesmerde: you're right
[06:25] <fabio> Omneh i have compiz
[06:25] <Omneh> fabio, do the same.
[06:25] <q_a_z_steve> macogw: any idea how to open a .pub file in OOo?
[06:25] <macogw> q_a_z_steve: why would you want to?
[06:26] <macogw> q_a_z_steve: that's a public gpg key.  it's plain text. open it in Text Editor or vim or nano or emacs...or just import it
[06:26] <Omneh> How can I make sure my ndiswrapped driver loads (at startup or at all)?
[06:26] <ChrisC36> Doesn anyone konw the difference between VMWare workstation and MVWare player?
[06:26] <novanosis> why after i close a program the desktop leaves a outline of the window and does not dissapear?
[06:26] <q_a_z_steve> macogw: per OSALT.com I should be able to, some stupid newsletter...
[06:26] <Omneh> VMWare workstation allows you to create images. ChrisC36
[06:26] <macogw> q_a_z_steve: well since it's plain text, OOo *should* be able to open it, but tbat' be just plain silly
[06:27] <murlidhar> can anybody help me setup a epson all in one (printer,scanner and copier in) in linux.?
[06:27] <patricknev> is there a ubuntu command/window comparable to the task manager in windows and how do you force quit and application?
[06:27] <fabio> Omneh: but say is alredy a windows manager running
[06:27] <jacquesmerde> macogw: i AM right? wow, that's a first.
[06:27] <q_a_z_steve> macogw: it's not plain text, I'm positive it's not gpg
[06:27] <aliase> I'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop from a base installed system, but everytime I tried to install it asked for my cd, and the cd is kind of corrupted, so is there anyway to change it to a network install?
[06:27] <Mith36> Does anyone have an idea as to why my  ubuntu would crash anytime I ran fglrxinfo ??  I've had this problem since 7.10 came out and I am about ready to nuke ubuntu off my hdd cause I can't get any help
[06:27] <mao42> patricknev: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[06:27] <ChrisC36> Omneh I'm not sure what you mean. I need to run a dev server as a vm in side ubuntu - with a separate ip and port forward apache to it from my router
[06:27] <Omneh> jacquesmerde, not very hard when you're up against me. ;)
[06:27] <ChrisC36> which vmware product should I use?
[06:28] <fabio> Omneh: but say is alredy a windows manager running
[06:28] <macogw> q_a_z_steve: *shrug* only thing ive ever seen end in .pub were gpg things.  you could try just changing the file extension to something else and seeing if OOo will open it
[06:28] <Bonster> whats a good program to unrar files like  file.r00 , file.r01 , file.r02 ?
[06:28] <zetheroo> Screen expansion in Ubuntu just does not work....!
[06:28] <zetheroo> why do they say it does?
[06:28] <jacquesmerde> macogw: so i take it compiz isn't supposed to have window borders and titlebars? that means i can only resize from right-clicking in the taskbar, and selecting resize, but i can only resize horizontally, not vertically
[06:28] <jacquesmerde> Omneh: dude, i make ANYone look smart
[06:28] <kishan> Bonster, use 7zip
[06:29] <Mith36>  /sigh, you hear so much about the *community* but when I have a legitimate problem I get zero help, not even an "I don't know".
[06:29] <dystopianray> Bonster, unrar
[06:29] <jacquesmerde> Omneh: the "00" in "n00b", is a reference to MY iq
[06:29] <kevin_121> Mith36: whats up?
[06:29] <patricknev> thanks mao42
[06:29] <murlidhar> are there any application for all in ones (printer. scanner and copier)
[06:29] <fabio> Bonster my friend u know how to enable the 3 butons of windows control in the top right?
[06:29] <mao42> jacquesmerde: Sounds like your window decorator plugin is turned off
[06:29] <Omneh> ChrisC36, Do you already have a bootable VMWare image? (As in, have you gotten the OS for VM player from a third party?)
[06:29] <Mith36> anytime I run fglrxinfo my computer crashes back to the login menu
[06:29] <Bonster> 3 button wat?
[06:29] <mao42> jacquesmerde: ALT-F2, then run ccsm, and see if it's enabled.
[06:29] <patricknev> mao42, is there a way to make this come up with ctrl+alt+del?
[06:30] <Mith36> I have tried everything to get my video drivers to work ( I have an ati x1800) and nothing has worked
[06:30] <fabio> Bonster: the 3 buttons minimize maximize close
[06:30] <Omneh> jacquesmerde, you're running linux, that's a start.
[06:30] <macogw> jacquesmerde: yes it should have them. you were right that metacity+compiz=impossible.
[06:30] <Omneh> :)
[06:30] <dystopianray> Omneh, there are websites that will create VMs for free that you can use with vmware-player
[06:30] <Fyda> jacquesmerde: Try running "gtk-window-decorator --replace &", that's to launch the window decorator which provides titlebars and borders.
[06:30] <jacquesmerde> mao42: ccsm, no such thing in PATH
[06:30] <Mith36> I can't troubleshoot without fglrxinfo either
[06:30] <Bonster> use ur mouse?
[06:30] <macogw> jacquesmerde: you should be able to use either emerald or gtk-window-decorator with compiz though
[06:30] <jacquesmerde> macogw: what's the n00b way of settign that up?
[06:30] <q_a_z_steve> !pastebin | Mith36
[06:30] <ubotu> Mith36: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:31] <macogw> jacquesmerde: i suggest installing http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2007/10/compiz-fusion-notification-area-icon.html so you have the nice little icon like beryl had that makes things easy
[06:31] <murlidhar> patricknev: system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[06:31] <fabio> Bonter i mean the 3 butons exists in all windows
[06:31] <ChrisC35> I need to run a dev server as a vm in side ubuntu - with a separate ip and port forward apache to it from my router. Which VMWare product should I use?
[06:31] <patricknev> thanks murlidhar
[06:31] <fabio> Bonster i dont know what i did and disapear
[06:31] <Fyda> jacquesmerde: "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" would get you the app called "ccsm"
[06:31] <q_a_z_steve> Mith36: error messages?
[06:31] <izz> hi again all. i'm attempting to upgrade to 7.10.. i don't have any problems as of yet but i think i'll hang out here just in case, if that's ok
[06:31] <Omneh> Anyone know how to make an ndiswrapped driver load?
[06:31] <kevin_121> Mith36: I'm looking around, not finding much though..
[06:31] <Mith36> WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[06:32] <murlidhar> are there any application for all in ones (printer. scanner and copier)
[06:32] <Bonster> in ubuntu?
[06:32] <fabio> yes
[06:32] <Mith36> here is my thread:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583337
[06:32] <mao> Blah
[06:32] <kevin_121> Mith36: out of curiosity, does glxgears do the same thing?
[06:32] <Bonster> try folder options
[06:32] <Mith36> no, glxgears runs, but very slowly
[06:32] <jacquesmerde> thanks for you help, but i'm still confused... has something gone wrong with my setup that most people don't get hit with who use restricted graphics drivers, or is EVERYONE who uses them in my position
[06:33] <mardi_soir> hello
[06:33] <macogw> jacquesmerde: i dont know. i dont use restricted drivers, so mine always "just work"
[06:33] <hylinux> hi, all. I got one issue in ubuntu 7.10, when my dell computer start, the screen is black.
[06:33] <murlidhar> please name the applications for all-in-ones (printer,scanner and copier)
[06:33] <Mith36> I am close to just reformating and doing a clean 7.10 install, but I am not even sure if that will help.
[06:33] <hylinux> but when gdm begin work, it will show the gdm interface.
[06:33] <macogw> jacquesmerde: i couldnt get compiz working right in kubuntu with nvidia on friday though
[06:33] <Mith36> I may just reinstall 7.04
[06:33] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: welcome to my world! lcd monitor i assume?
[06:33] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: yes. lcd monitor.
[06:33] <fabio> Bonter where in sistem>appearce
[06:34] <mao42> Has anyone has any success installing the newer version of the ALSA drivers?
[06:34] <jacquesmerde> macogw: i'm sticking with metacity. i honestly don't see the point of compiz
[06:34] <hylinux> benq pf71G
[06:34] <mao42> My sound card isn't supported properly by the version that loads with Ubuntu
[06:34] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: remove the "splash" parameter from grub is what i did
[06:34] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: but in my home, my dell ewp228 lcd monitor work success.
[06:34] <mao42> jacquesmerde: It's funny watching your friend who spent $200+ on Vista cuss himself
[06:35] <xnitebreedx> http://i23.tinypic.com/2i6yvz5.jpg
[06:35] <nikolai> im having a problem with compiz or something, when i open a new program on one of the 4 desktops, i would flip the cube and it still shows the program open or the cube does not flip to the next  window, so now I have two programs opened showing on the task bar
[06:35] <xnitebreedx> <33333
[06:35] <sainry> mao42 what card?
[06:35] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: yes, I did, but I want to how to fixed that in splash
[06:35] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: any idea?
[06:35] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: huh?
[06:35] <mao42> sainry: It's onboard, AD1985something
[06:36] <mao42> I forgot the letter that followed 1985
[06:36] <hylinux> I remeber, in Fedora, Fedora use rhgb, we can configuration it. use a single X configuration.  ubuntu can do that like Fedora?
[06:36] <murlidhar> can anybody help me setup a epson all in one (printer,scanner and copier in) in linux.?
[06:36] <murlidhar> please name the applications for all-in-ones (printer,scanner and copier)
[06:36] <fabio> bounter: dont work
[06:36] <mao42> AD1985A
[06:36] <fabio> shit
[06:36] <fabio> -_-
[06:36] <sainry> mao42 What board?
[06:36] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: i have no idea what you're talking about
[06:36] <nikolai> im having a problem with compiz or something, when i open a new program on one of the 4 desktops, i would flip the cube and it still shows the program open or the cube does not flip to the next  window, so now I have two programs opened showing on the task bar
[06:37] <hylinux> jacquesmerde:  do you know rhgb?
[06:37] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: are you saying you CAN get rid of splash and have no black screen, but you want to KEEP the splash screen?
[06:37] <Bonster> try loging out u might get ur screen back
[06:37] <hylinux> in Fedora.
[06:37] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: no
[06:37] <Reng> is there a log where linux keeps all the commands that you entered(modified) to the system?
[06:37] <Mith36> Hrm, I guess noone has any idea what's wrong with my ubuntu then :(
[06:37] <hylinux> jacquesmerde: yes. keep splash, and have no black screen.
[06:38] <Mith36> I can't be the only person with an x1800 card.
[06:38] <murlidhar> hylinux: somebody told me it is still a bug in this release. ppl are working on it
[06:38] <mao42> sainry: The motherboard is a A8S-X
[06:38] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: i think you have to fiddle with resolutions and refresh rates in the splash config file for that, check the forums. i'd rather keep it vanilla til the fix comes
[06:38] <mao42> I'm trying to figure out the sound board chip
[06:38] <hylinux> yes. I googled it. someboday said that usersplan.conf problem.
[06:38] <mao42> SiS17something
[06:38] <dennisharrison> help me please :)  I have googled for like 2 hours
[06:38] <hylinux> let me take a look.
[06:38] <dennisharrison> 8600 gts on a fresh gutsy install
[06:38] <fabio> Bounter loool
[06:39] <aliase> anyone know why i need to insert my cd, everytime i want to install something?
[06:39] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: its been reported as a bug, btw
[06:39] <hylinux> yes. I had finger out that bug.
[06:39] <murlidhar> please name the applications for all-in-ones (printer,scanner and copier)
[06:39] <dennisharrison> works fine with nv as driver but nvidia is all wacky (only shows part of the gdm on the bottom half of my monitor)
[06:39] <hylinux> in bugzilla
[06:39] <hylinux> ;)
[06:39] <dennisharrison> switching back to nv works fine
[06:39] <jacquesmerde> aliase: because you didn't have an Internet connection when you installed?
[06:40] <dennisharrison> I have tried, envy, and compiling the stock nvidia driver from source
[06:40] <Bonster> lame had to do unrar from terminal
[06:40] <mao42> sainry: card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012], device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012]
[06:40] <aliase> jacquesmerde, but i did, is there anyway to change it?
[06:40] <dennisharrison> anyone here have a an 8600 gts working in gutsy ?
[06:40] <Bonster> ufc 77 baby
[06:40] <dennisharrison> with the nvidia driver ?
[06:40] <murlidhar> Bonster: u can do unrar from graphical interface too
[06:41] <jacquesmerde> aliase: you're asking the wrong person. do you have all the repos enabled?
[06:41] <Bonster> nah not for .r00 types
[06:41] <dennisharrison> xorg log doesn't give me errors either
[06:41] <dennisharrison> the geometry for the monitor is off
[06:41] <murlidhar> Bonster: i am not sure of that
[06:41] <dennisharrison> and I have even tried limiting the monitor modes to just the native resolution
[06:41] <aliase> jacquesmerde, im not sure, how do i check?
[06:41] <robbster1> Hi, i am still having problems with my sound after extracting the files
[06:41] <Bonster> i just did it
[06:41] <dennisharrison> but not so sure about the Horiz hz
[06:42] <avis> is installing opera possible on gutsy without a canonical account ?
[06:42] <robbster1> Can someone help me with my sound?
[06:42] <rredd4> I am using gutsy,  is anyone using Paltalk with wine?  What version should I use?  I have the latest version, it logs on, but does not show the rooms.
[06:42] <hylinux> I try to change the /etc/usplash.conf
[06:42] <an0n1m0us> hello can anyone please tell me how to determine the exact version of ubuntu (server/desktop) I have installed from the terminal?
[06:42] <jacquesmerde> aliase: System -> Administration -> software sources
[06:42] <hylinux> set the xres and yres to 1024 and 768
[06:42] <Mith36> If I want to delete 7.10 and revert to 7.04 can I save my settings at all? :/
[06:42] <robbster1> HELLO? CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH MY SOUND??
[06:42] <hylinux> try restart the computer,  and take a look.
[06:42] <thedonvaughn> an0n1m0us, cat /etc/debian_version ?
[06:42] <Bonster> opera is in the repos
[06:42] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: why not just disable splash? i'd rather see what my computer is doing than some ugly image
[06:42] <rredd4> !caps
[06:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:42] <nikolai> when i flip the cube in compiz to the next desktop it still shows my programs from the first , like it never moved? any help please
[06:42] <jacquesmerde> hylinux: that worked??
[06:43] <robbster1> sry
[06:43] <robbster1> the caps was on on accident
[06:43] <thedonvaughn> an0n1m0us, cat /etc/issue
[06:43] <hylinux> jaceuesmerde: hrmm,  let me check
[06:43] <robbster1> can someone PM me to help?
[06:43] <dennisharrison> seriously, most people in here have very solveable and well documented problems
[06:43] <dennisharrison> go use google
[06:43] <an0n1m0us> thedonvaughn: that just tells me testing/unstable
[06:43] <aliase> jacquesmerde, I'm at a console right now, I'm actually trying to install ubuntu-desktop, but it asking me to insert the cd everytime, except my cd's a little corrupted
[06:43] <avis> opera isn't in the free repos.  i think you need a canonical account
[06:43] <thedonvaughn> an0n1m0us, read my second reply to you
[06:43] <dennisharrison> now, does anyone in here have a pci express 8600 gts in gutsy working with the nvidia driver ?
[06:43] <an0n1m0us> thnx
[06:43] <Bonster> is there
[06:44] <robbster1> hello, can someone help me pretty please?
[06:44] <Bonster> u probally need to update
[06:44] <Ademan> avis: no you just need to add the "commercial" repository is all
[06:44] <Ademan> !ask robbster1
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask robbster1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <iceslice> I'm looking for help with encryption of a /home partition, while using a USB pen drive key
[06:44] <avis> dennisharrison, i have a 8500GT working in gutsy
[06:44] <Ademan> !ask | robbster1
[06:44] <ubotu> robbster1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:44] <dennisharrison> avis, did you just use the restricted driver manager to isntall nvidia-glx-new ?
[06:44] <robbster1> i have been
[06:44] <an0n1m0us> thedonvaughn: Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[06:44] <kevin_121> robbster1: highly recommend you follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting   before you really worry about installing alsa from source
[06:44] <murlidhar> and i never knew there was a commercial repository
[06:44] <an0n1m0us> is that server or desktop
[06:45] <robbster1> i have already troubleshooted
[06:45] <zetheroo> Does S-video work in Gutsy?
[06:45] <robbster1> i need to install the drivers
[06:45] <avis> dennisharrison, yes i sure did.  when i installed from desktop cd i selected to use restricted drivers so when i booted into X the first time it had them ready for me.
[06:45] <kevin_121> robbster1: ok, what commands are you using to compile and install them
[06:45] <robbster1> but the darn thing wont let me
[06:45] <Ademan> an0n1m0us: if you've got GNOME there's a very good chance it's the desktop (you can install GNOME on the server install, and remove it from desktop, but that's rare)
[06:46] <Ademan> zetheroo: i dunno about gutsy, but in feisty i used my s-video out several times
[06:46] <avis> dennisharrison, that would be during the installation.  choose to use restricted drivers.  then when i boot first into X its good.  i had to adjust my resolution manually.
[06:46] <Ademan> nvidia geforce go 6600
[06:46] <dennisharrison> avis, that has been the experience with my laptop as well, what display are you using for the 8500 ?
[06:46] <zetheroo> Ademan; was it just automatic?
[06:46] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone know how to change what is displayed in audacious
[06:46] <murlidhar> Bonster: i don't see any commercial repository in my synaptic
[06:46] <kevin_121> robbster1: are you following any instructions for installing alsa from source?
[06:46] <avis> dennisharrison, 1680x1050
[06:46] <[chr0n0s]> you use s-video out in what type of devices ?
[06:46] <mao42> sainry: Know anything about installing the new drivers? I followed the quick install guide on ALSA's Wiki, but the compiling of the libraries gives me an error. Permission denied (even when running with sudo) when accessing something called cards.lo
[06:46] <dennisharrison> avis, same here... trying to use a samsung 226bw
[06:46] <Ademan> zetheroo: no :-/, i had to dick around in xorg.conf (and then restart X), but the new GUI should handle that for you now
[06:46] <an0n1m0us> thanks Ademan it's definitely got GNOME but isnt there an absolute way to be sure whether it's server/desktop? Reason it I know I upgraded it but don't remember from what, to what/how
[06:47] <Reng> whats the command to give write access to your external drive?
[06:47] <Ademan> an0n1m0us: well if you've got GNOME, i'd be willing to bet a lot of money it's desktop
[06:47] <avis> dennisharrison, it should work did you do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after booting into X from the wrong resolution ?
[06:47] <zetheroo> Ademan: well the new Screens and Graphics GUI is useless
[06:47] <robbster1> yes, i am following instructions, but i don't understand them
[06:47] <Ademan> Reng: chmod the mount point?
[06:47] <dennisharrison> avis, you changed resolution in xorg.conf ?
[06:47] <Mith36> agreed zetheroo
[06:47] <Ademan> zetheroo: really? i haven't used it personally but it looked pretty good
[06:47] <robbster1> the forum keeps telling me to follow the directions on the patch thing, but there's no instructions!
[06:47] <avis> dennisharrison, yes i sure did doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but be sure to make a backup first if your not familiar
[06:47] <Bonster> loL
[06:47] <dennisharrison> avis, that is the funny part, I did that, but no matter what I set in x, I get the same geometry on the monitor
[06:47] <an0n1m0us> Ademan: thanks, I'll run on that assumption for now
[06:48] <Reng> thanks
[06:48] <an0n1m0us> how do I convert to Server?
[06:48] <davubuntu> jmg, just FYI there are bunch of people with the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3607235#post3607235 . Sorry for bugging you. I would have looked at the forums first but I wasn't even sure it was a gutsy problem.... and I couldn't get to the forums because the connection problem prevented it :)
[06:48] <zetheroo> Mith36 Ademan  ..... agreed .. it looks good... but just does not work!
[06:48] <an0n1m0us> is that possible without a completefresh install?
[06:48] <butu> hello. could anyone tell me how to find a program that i installed on my machine? (i'm fairly a newbie, can you guess?)
[06:48] <Mith36> I think messing with it messed up my system enough I am going to format
[06:48] <Reng> what does "sudo chown" command do?
[06:48] <mao42> Once you enabled the third party repos and update Synapitics list, Opera will show up
[06:48] <avis> dennisharrison, i have been told that all nvidia cards should work.  did you restart your x server ?  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  (then again with start)
[06:48] <mao42> But Firefox is better IMO
[06:48] <butu> and how to set up the system to *always* show me the hidden files?
[06:49] <zandos> hey all hows it going.. my question would be what is the easiest way to setup a dual boot ubuntu/xp system.. using 1 harddrive... i just intalled gutsy and was only offered the guided and manual partition options.. i'm doing a presentation over the installation of a dual boot system and i don't want to be on the end of the clubs members flames
[06:49] <murlidhar> Bonster: and when i sudo apt-get install opera it says Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:49] <zetheroo> Ademan: its really a sore point for Ubuntu because many people want to plug into external displays... for me its doing presentations..... Ubuntu is useless in this regard
[06:49] <dennisharrison> avis, I just did used a script to bring the init level down and up
[06:49] <Mith36> Anyone know where amarok stores the mySQL database?
[06:49] <murlidhar> Bonster: E: Package opera has no installation candidate
[06:49] <[chr0n0s]> zandos : go for manual
[06:49] <mao42> zandos: The way I did it was Vista first, resize partition, then Ubuntu.
[06:49] <[chr0n0s]> Mith36, it's on mysql server
[06:49] <dennisharrison> avis, this is REALLY hurting my brain :)  Just want my gorgeous new monitor to work.  Been on a 21 inch crt for years! heh
[06:49] <robbster1> Kevin_121: Do you mind if i PM you?
[06:50] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone here use audacious alot?
[06:50] <Mith36> [chr0n0s]: can the database be retrieved?  I am going to format and I don't want to lose all my tags
[06:50] <JohnRobert> sudo chown -R john ubuntu-source/ < I keep getting permission denied...even though I'm root..any ideas?!
[06:51] <avis> dennisharrison, i dont know what to tell you.  i have the dkpg-reconfigure detect my lcd rates.  i also tell it to only use 1680x1050 and then restart the x server  should work.  if you've given up you might want to try "envy" for gutsy and rebuild your kernel using that though alot of people frown on it, its worked for me, if you suspect the restricted driver doesn't work
[06:51] <zandos> well i personally don't have a problem setting up a dual boot system manually.. just looking for something simple of the club members
[06:51] <mao42> zandos: I think you can used gparted from Ubuntu to resize the driver for a second partition
[06:51] <novato_br> what does mean this error: " Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault." ?
[06:51] <mao42> Then try installing XP
[06:51] <dennisharrison> avis, I have gone a step further and even just built the nvidia driver from source in the official download script
[06:51] <JohnRobert> ah, proc and sys were mounted
[06:51] <Airwulf> hey to you all
[06:51] <avis> dennisharrison, i'm going to assume you unchecked the resolutions you dont want the only one you do.  there is a way to switch between them but i never learned it
[06:52] <dennisharrison> avis, thanks for the leg up though, I am thinking now I might have a doa card
[06:52] <novato_br> what does it mean this error: " Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault." ?
[06:52] <avis> dennisharrison, you just might
[06:52] <mao42> zandos: I dunno if XP will play nice and create a boot menu though, so look up info online about that
[06:52] <Bonster> murdl
[06:52] <eyeRmonkey> Question: My fans are constantly running at 100%. how do i stop this? (in gutsy)
[06:52] <Bonster> check ur add/remove
[06:52] <zetheroo> Has anyone reported bugs about the Screen and Graphics functionality?
[06:52] <Borat> hey guys
[06:52] <Airwulf> can someone give me a hint how i can disable the 'low  graphics  dialog/check' in gutsy?
[06:52] <Bonster> and search opera
[06:52] <princex> sweet, right to a ubuntu channle :) hi
[06:52] <murlidhar> Bonster: ok
[06:53] <dennisharrison> avis, yeah, was hoping it was a bug .. and someone had a fix :)  like "OH! yeah... 8600 gts, just put this modeline in your x, devs forgot to do blah blah blah with refresh detect on those.. haha *chuckle*"
[06:53] <dennisharrison> oh well :)
[06:53] <Borat> I need some help, every time i try to install some dependecies for awn, it asks me to insert my Gutsy install cd, how do i get rid of this annoying mesage?
[06:53] <rredd4> any wine paltalk users here, via gutsy?
[06:53] <murlidhar> Bonster: how it is there but not in repos
[06:54] <Bonster> =)
[06:54] <n2diy_> Borat: install the CD! :)
[06:54] <Bonster> donno just gotta check all place
[06:54] <robbster1> Ok, I have a gateway ml3109. If you send me a forum about it, ive read it. I am having problems with my sound, i can't get it to install the drivers. The "instructions" that come with the patch aren't instructions, its a list of commands. When i put the commands in to install the driver, it comes up "no such directory exists" i have a file named "alsa" and subfiles on my desktop. I am following the instructions on the forum, but they are
[06:54] <Borat>  n2diy_ but i dont have mine :)
[06:54] <robbster1> they just don't make sense
[06:55] <n2diy_> Borat: hmm, can you DL one?
[06:55] <robbster1> Ok, I have a gateway ml3109. If you send me a forum about it, ive read it. I am having problems with my sound, i can't get it to install the drivers. The "instructions" that come with the patch aren't instructions, its a list of commands. When i put the commands in to install the driver, it comes up "no such directory exists" i have a file named "alsa" and subfiles on my desktop. I am following the instructions on the forum, but they are
[06:56] <Borat> n2diy_ i fixed the problem, all i needed to do was uncheck the cd thing in the software sources,
[06:56] <n2diy_> Borat: Excellent.
[06:56] <robbster1> Ok, I have a gateway ml3109. If you send me a forum about it, ive read it. I am having problems with my sound, i can't get it to install the drivers. The "instructions" that come with the patch aren't instructions, its a list of commands. When i put the commands in to install the driver, it comes up "no such directory exists" i have a file named "alsa" and subfiles on my desktop. I am following the instructions on the forum, but they are
[06:57] <n2diy_> ! repeat | robbster1
[06:57] <ubotu> robbster1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait.  However, if I run lshal -m and then close the lid, the screen stays blank.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[06:59] <axjv> !ohmy | robbster1
[06:59] <ubotu> robbster1: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:59] <n2diy_> robbster1: you get what you pay for.
[06:59] <Clutchsama> anyone have a moment to help?
[06:59]  * rob looks in
[06:59] <JohnRobert> robbster1, you certainly won't get any help like that.
[06:59] <[chr0n0s]> true
[06:59] <Jimd1> don't ask to ask for help, just ask the question
[06:59] <JohnRobert> !smartquestions | robbster1
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartquestions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <robbster1> im a newb, i don't know what im doing...i was being polite at first, but the people that were trying to help me all of a sudden quit
[06:59] <JohnRobert> bah!
[07:00] <Jimd1> !anyone
[07:00] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:00] <[chr0n0s]> robbster1, they listen to you, and probably they don't have a solution
[07:00] <thedonvaughn> robbster1, they have no obligation to help you.  they might know how to help you.  you have no right to get an attitude because no one is helping you.
[07:00] <zandos> robbster1 if all else fails read and search
[07:00] <n2diy_> robbster1:  we are all volunteers. Maybe the others had to go to the bath room?
[07:00] <Mith36> can anyone with an x series ati radeon card PM their xorg.conf file?
[07:00] <Clutchsama> i have just reinstalled os x...created 3 partitions.  i'm now installing ubuntu.  if i want to share the ubuntu partition with os x what file format do i select?
[07:00] <robbster1> i have been
[07:00] <robbster1> im sorry for my language
[07:00] <zandos> your not the only person that has the problem i'm sure
[07:00] <axjv> Can anyone help me fix my laptop display? It doesn't blank when I close it, but if I run lshal -m in terminal before closing it, it blanks.
[07:01] <tritium> robbster1: what's going on?
[07:01] <Fyda> robbster1: Where are these instructions you followed?
[07:01] <xTheGoat121x> BRB
[07:01] <[chr0n0s]> Mith36, that wud be a bad, some ATi cards are working nicely
[07:01] <zandos> is that gateway a laptop?
[07:01] <robbster1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511876&page=3
[07:01] <Jimd1> Clutchsama:  i'm not sure.  does ubuntu have a driver for the osx file system?
[07:01] <Fyda> robbster1: if it says it can't find the directory, it's possible that you need to switch to that directory first.
[07:01] <robbster1> i dont know how
[07:01] <axjv> Nobody?
[07:01] <Jimd1> is there an ext2fs for osx?
[07:01] <ChrisC35> Does anyone know what the difference between VMWare workstation and VMWare server is?
[07:01] <axjv> robbster1: Change directory by typing cf.
[07:01] <axjv> cd*
[07:01] <n2diy_> robbster1:  /cd/new/directory.
[07:02] <Mith36> Mine isn't [chr0n0s] which is why I want someone's xorg.conf that is working :)
[07:02] <robbster1> k
[07:02] <robbster1> thank you
[07:02] <[chr0n0s]> Mith36, have you installed drivers ?
[07:02] <zandos> robbster1: is the machine your talking about a laptop?
[07:02] <rouben> Jimd1: for OS X, check out macfuse (Google it) and on Linux, use hfsplus
[07:02] <robbster1> it says no such file or directory when i put that
[07:02] <Captain_Haddock> I would like something like an RSS reader widget stuck _on_ my desktop - something like a desktop widget that's part of the background.. is there something like this?
[07:02] <Mith36> I've installed them about 20 times actually.  They just don't seme to be working for me.  Fglrxinfo crashes my system
[07:02] <Mith36> 7.04 worked fine
[07:02] <axjv> Erm, can anyone help me with my display problem? It's somewhere up there.
[07:02] <Captain_Haddock> a sidebar or something that is viewable only when the minimise all windows?
[07:03] <JohnRobert> robbster1, it may be worth trying Ubuntu 7.10, rather than still using 7.04 - lots of fixes in 7.10, especially for laptops.
[07:03] <nalioth> Jimd1: yes there is
[07:03] <Jimd1> rouben:  I was trying to give Clutchsama a place to start.  i wasn't actually asking
[07:03] <robbster1> i am on 7.10
[07:03] <Captain_Haddock> 9with clickable links etc.)
[07:03] <Fyda> robbster1: According to the instructions, you downloaded a file called "alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1.tar.gz", no?
[07:03] <[chr0n0s]> Mith36, try envy? !envy
[07:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell robbster1 about cli
[07:03] <JohnRobert> in your forum post it says 7.04
[07:03] <JohnRobert> :p
[07:03] <rouben> Jimd1: heh, my bad. :)
[07:03] <Fyda> robbster1: Where did you put it?
[07:03] <robbster1> yes, i did
[07:03] <JohnRobert> or is that someone else
[07:03] <[chr0n0s]> !envy | Mith36
[07:03] <ubotu> Mith36: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:03] <Mith36> I've used envy the last 5 or 6 tries.  didn't work either
[07:03] <Fyda> robbster1: If you just used Firefox to download it, then it probably saved to your desktop.
[07:03] <[chr0n0s]> axjv, one question, why are you using that command
[07:03] <n2diy_> robbster1:  try "touch /cd/new/directory."
[07:03] <JohnRobert> heh
[07:03] <Clutchsama> jimd1 and rouben: thanks for your input!  i don't see hfs in the ubuntu selecter...ext2 is the way to go?
[07:04] <robbster1> i moved them from my desktop to a file on my desktop named "alsa"
[07:04] <robbster1> all of the files it tells me to are in there
[07:04] <Fyda> robbster1: cd ~/Desktop/alsa
[07:04] <axjv> [chr0n0s]: I saw it posted in a forum to test for errors in the monitor sending the "I'm closing" command.
[07:04] <JohnRobert> robbster1, this channel is a bit busy to understand people sometimes...it may be worth asking in #ubuntu-uk (or wherever you're from)
[07:04] <Mith36> it's really odd that fglrxinfo crashes my system. I can't find any other reports of that on the whole web.
[07:04] <rhYaN`> hello
[07:04] <SAVVYDKP> i just installed nvidia drivers, it's good, my xorg.conf file looks good, all of the resolutions i want, but i cannot seem to enable them thru the resolution manager gui, how do I change the default resolution without that gui?
[07:04] <axjv> [chr0n0s]: It's strange, because if I just monitor the output, it works properly.
[07:04] <rhYaN`> i have a problem with my internet connection
[07:04] <Mith36> it is unbelievably frustrating :|
[07:04] <Clutchsama> or is ext3 better?
[07:05] <rhYaN`> im using ubuntu 7.10
[07:05] <Jimd1> clutchsama:  the issue is whether ubuntu can read/write hpfs+ through built in drivers for via drivers you can add.  the  other side of the coin is to get osx to see and use the ext2/3 file system.  (ext3 is ext2 with journaling).
[07:05] <ndckweaver> ckerthreads.org
[07:05] <nalioth> Clutchsama: hfs ? what?
[07:05] <JohnRobert> Mith36, it could be something as random as overheating
[07:05] <[chr0n0s]> Mith36, i haven't heard it before, sorry abt that
[07:05] <robbster1> thank you
[07:05] <rhYaN`> my internet connection is not stable
[07:05] <Jimd1> hfs=macintosh file system
[07:05] <Mith36> Overheating? my box is ice cold :P
[07:05] <[chr0n0s]> axjv, sorry, you have to ask others
[07:05] <axjv> [chr0n0s]: Okay.
[07:06] <axjv> I'm having some problems with my laptop display: When I close the lid, the screen blanks and then turns back on. However, if I run lshal -m and then close the lid, the screen stays blank. Any ideas?
[07:06] <[chr0n0s]> Mith36, some ice cubes please ;)
[07:06] <nalioth> Jimd1: yes, i run Apple hardware.  i'm trying to find out what Clutchsama wants to do with hfs
[07:06] <Mith36> but then I'd have to hack apart my precious PC!
[07:06] <Jimd1> he wants to install ubuntu and wants to share his partitions nalioth
[07:06] <zandos> SAVVYDKP: system>prefs>screens and displays i believe
[07:06] <Clutchsama> jimd1: thx for the help...it sounds like i can get an app that will let OS X read ext2
[07:07] <axjv> No ideas from anyone?
[07:07] <nalioth> Jimd1: Clutchsama sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[07:07] <Mith36> Does anyone here using an ATI radeonhave an xorg.conf they could PM me?  Mine is ruined
[07:07] <murlidhar_> is there any application that can show my printer's inks level?
[07:07] <Clutchsama> thx nalioth
[07:07] <BHSPitMonkey> Is the blurry icons problem being addressed?
[07:07] <JohnRobert> murlidhar, if there is, I'd like to know about it!
[07:07] <[chr0n0s]> axjv, can you give the link to that post ?
[07:07] <zandos> what type of laptop axjv
[07:07] <axjv> [chr0n0s]: Hold on just a second.
[07:08] <robbster1> OK, can the person that was helping me kindly PM me, i don't know what i am doing. please
[07:08] <nalioth> Clutchsama: you really really really do NOT want to mount your OSX system partition under linux for writing (read-only is ok)
[07:08] <Mith36> You all use nvidia then? 8(
[07:08] <JohnRobert> murlidhar, yes... http://libinklevel.sourceforge.net/ - I searched for 'hp ink level linux' in google to find that, you should learn to google :)
[07:08] <[chr0n0s]> Mith36, i am on ATi x2300M
[07:08] <murlidhar_> JohnRobert: i have epson printer
[07:08] <Mith36> can you pm me the contents of your xorg.conf then?
[07:09] <axjv> zandos: Inspiron E1505
[07:09] <Clutchsama> ok nalioth
[07:09] <Mith36> it can't make things worse than they are
[07:09] <loogyman> Nvidia 7600GT
[07:09] <n2diy_> robbster1:  most folks don't PM here. Your answer could help others, so ask away, here.
[07:09] <rhYaN`> my internet connection is not stable
[07:09] <Clearzen> !compiz
[07:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[07:09] <Clutchsama> nalioth: is it ok to install ubuntu on hfs?
[07:09] <axjv> [chr0n0s]: This person had a similar problem on a different dist: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/41994
[07:10] <Mith36> not really, they're talking about their laptop lid ><
[07:10] <Mith36> I've read that post hehe
[07:10] <JohnRobert> murlidhar, http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Inkblot << you'll have to install from source (hard if you're a beginner). Google 'installing from source linux' on google to find out how to do it.
[07:10] <robbster1> ok, can you walk me through with what i am supposed to do?
[07:10] <robbster1> i don't understand how to do it
[07:10] <axjv> Mith36: My laptop lid won't shut off when I close it.
[07:10] <murlidhar_> JohnRobert: i am a noob :(
[07:10] <BHSPitMonkey> How can one use gnash in firefox?
[07:10] <Mith36> then that po st will benefit you more than me
[07:10] <BHSPitMonkey> It doesn't seem to be there ootb.
[07:10] <robbster1>
[07:10] <Jimd1> axjv:  go into bios and tell it to suspend when you close the lid
[07:11] <JohnRobert> murlidhar, you must learn how to install from source first (and understand what you're doing) for it to work really.
[07:11] <axjv> Jimd1: Err, so restart and press F12?
[07:11] <JohnRobert> murlidhar, I recommend you don't bother if you don't want to spend a couple of hours
[07:11] <space-man> hi
[07:11] <JohnRobert> :p
[07:11] <murlidhar_> JohnRobert: i am dual booting
[07:11] <robbster1> JohnRobert: Can you possibly walk me through with installing this please?
[07:11] <Jimd1> axjv:  different machines have different hotkeys.
[07:11] <axjv> Jimd1: I think that's already set... I just switched from windows and it worked there, so unless the liveCD reset my BIOS settings?
[07:11] <Mith36> I feel kind of special knowing I somehow managed to create a bug on my system noone else has ever had before
[07:12] <Jimd1> axjv:  the livecd did not reset your bios
[07:12] <Clutchsama> is anyone able to tell me the options to select in the partition tool during ubuntu install?  i want to dual boot os x and ubuntu
[07:12] <axjv> Jimd1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure of that... o.o
[07:12] <Fyda> robbster1: Sorry, you're still having problems? What does it say now?
[07:12] <space-man> 5.1 Audio channel problem: i have an onboard sound card supporting 5.1 channels. i have tested and ran all 6 channels. but when i play an AC3 video with totem player, it only outputs stereo despite the sound settings set on AC3 passthrough.
[07:12] <zandos> hey axjv if you haven't already take a look at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html
[07:12] <robbster1> umm, it just says that the command is not found
[07:13] <murlidhar_> robbster1: which command
[07:13] <JohnRobert> robbster1, I am at work.
[07:13] <robbster1> i am following the instructions, i have read them so many times, i don't know
[07:13] <axjv> zandos: Thanks, I'll take a look.
[07:13] <JohnRobert> robbster1, the instructions may have been written by a complete idiot
[07:13] <zandos> i didn't see any mention of that bug but i didn't go through all the 1505 stuff
[07:13] <robbster1> tar xfj alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1.tar.bz2
[07:13] <robbster1> tar xfj alsa-lib-1.0.15rc1.tar.bz2
[07:13] <robbster1> tar xfj alsa-utils-1.0.15rc1.tar.bz2
[07:13] <robbster1> patch alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1/alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_sigmatel.c < patch_sigmatel.c.patch-1.0.15rc1-simple
[07:13] <robbster1> cd alsa-lib-1.0.15rc1/
[07:13] <robbster1> ./configure && make && make install
[07:13] <JohnRobert> robbster1, you'd have better luck on the ubuntu forum
[07:13] <robbster1> cd ../alsa-utils-1.0.15rc1/
[07:13] <robbster1> ./configure && make && make install
[07:13] <JohnRobert> !paste
[07:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:13] <robbster1> cd ../alsa-driver-1.0.15rc1/
[07:13] <robbster1> ./configure && make && make install
[07:13] <robbster1> alsaconf
[07:13] <robbster1> alsactl store
[07:14] <JohnRobert> seeya
[07:14] <axjv> zandos: Sorry, no info in there.
[07:14] <zandos> and try all the distros not just ubuntu. might mention the be else where
[07:14] <zandos> be=bug
[07:14] <JohnRobert> robbster1, it looks like you're trying to recompile alsa
[07:14] <axjv> I still don't get why my problem is fixed when I use lshal -m.
[07:14] <JohnRobert> this isn't a good idea if you don't know what you're doing.
[07:14] <Mith36> brb going to reboot
[07:14] <JohnRobert> as you're more than likely to get nowhere
[07:14] <robbster1> well........i don't know what i am supposed to do then.
[07:15] <JohnRobert> well, have you written what the exact problem is on the forum?
[07:15] <robbster1> what do you mean?
[07:15] <JohnRobert> 'it doesn't work' isn't a good description
[07:15] <Fyda> robbster1: One command at a time. It tells you that "tar" isn't a valid command, first of all?
[07:15] <robbster1> yes
[07:15] <JohnRobert> when you try and play something with sound, does it throw up an error, or can you just not hear anything?
[07:16] <robbster1> i just don't hear anything
[07:16] <JohnRobert> right
[07:16] <jak1> hello. i know i'm totally in the wrong room, but i'm new to irc and trying to join #python but it says i need to be identified, even though i've set up a screen name and password. can anyone help? i know this has to be a stupid question, so forgive me
[07:16] <zandos> axjv: just throw it in the river and start over :P
[07:16] <JohnRobert> hmm
[07:16]  * JohnRobert tries to think how to fix sound problems
[07:17] <Fyda> I had that kind of problem with sound on a laptop. I broke my system trying to compile ALSA from scratch. It turned out that the problem was fixed by a newer kernel version that came with Feisty.
[07:17] <Fyda> Also, some mixer settings needed tweaking.
[07:17] <E-mu> anyone please help. How to make a file permissions from -rwxr-xr-x to -rw-r--r--
[07:17] <Clutchsama> when setting a swap area in the partition tool during install can i select any partition?  or does it need to be a particular one?
[07:17] <E-mu> chmod 755 is not doing it?
[07:17] <robbster1> the sound works fine on my desktop, but it won't on my laptop
[07:18] <robbster1> what do you mean, the mixer settings need tweaking?
[07:18] <Fyda> robbster1: Well, in some cases, the mixer starts out muted. Also, in my case, I needed to enable an option called "External Amplifier" to get sound on my laptop.
[07:18] <varun0> anyone know how to make windows *not* maximize across dual monitors?
[07:19] <robbster1> where is external amplifier?
[07:19] <murlidhar_> *me gets jealous with dual monitors
[07:19] <Fyda> robbster1: Since I don't know which sound card model you have, I can't guarantee that you would have the same settings.  But for me, it's in the sound mixer.
[07:20] <robbster1> i have a sigmatel...i don't know what model tho
[07:20] <axjv> zandos: All of the local rivers were closed.
[07:20] <zandos> :P
[07:21] <z3wb> arrgh. im waiting for fluxbuntu
[07:21] <robbster1> Hello?
[07:21] <JohnRobert> robbster1, type in a terminal: dmesg | grep -i sigma
[07:21] <z3wb> it was supposed to be out hours ago
[07:21] <cjb> Hi!  I'm trying to install Gutsy on a laptop that has no CD drive, but can boot from USB.
[07:21] <JohnRobert> and then paste the results if there are any
[07:21] <cjb> I did:
[07:21] <Fyda> robbster1: Okay, you did say you've seen all the forum stuff on this problem, but this thread mentions the External Amplifier option: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=276343
[07:21] <cjb>  % sudo dd if=/dev/scd0 of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
[07:21] <z3wb> but the fluxbuntu people still havent uploaded the images
[07:21] <J-_> Where does Avant store localized data?
[07:21] <cjb> with a Gutsy CD in the drive, but that doesn't boot.  is there another way to prepare a bootable USB stick?
[07:22] <z3wb> cjb: check your bios
[07:22] <tanner_> anyone know if you can use a PCI based wifi card and make it a wireless hotspot/gateway/router ?
[07:22] <z3wb> make sure your cd drive has higher boot priority than your hard drive
[07:22] <robbster1> robby@bacon-laptop:~$ dmesg | grep -i sigma
[07:22] <robbster1> robby@bacon-laptop:~$
[07:22] <zetheroo> is there any documentation for Gutsy like there was for Feisty?
[07:23] <Fyda> zetheroo: Documentation for what sort of thing, specifically?
[07:23] <cjb> z3wb: already have.
[07:23] <JohnRobert> hmm
[07:23] <z3wb> hurm
[07:23] <zetheroo> Fyda: well there is the ubuntuguide.org for Feisty
[07:23] <z3wb> can you comp boot usb drives?
[07:23] <zetheroo> Fyda: I am looking for documentation on the Screen and Graphics GUI in Gutsy
[07:24] <desertc> Hello - question - I used to have an indicator on the GNOME task bar that told me when I received new mail.  I think it was called the Notifier Applet.  It's gone now after the Gutsy upgrade.
[07:24] <cjb> z3wb: yes
[07:24] <murlidhar> !graphics | zetheroo
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <Fyda> zetheroo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy I guess you've seen this already, and it isn't what you're looking for?
[07:24] <Fyda> !search graphics
[07:24] <ubotu> Found: dri, svg, xgl-#ubuntu-effects, xfs, inkscape
[07:24] <z3wb> do you have an os currently installed on the system?
[07:24] <JohnRobert> bah
[07:25] <JohnRobert> anyone know whether /var/log/messages gets anything about sound devices any more?
[07:25] <zetheroo> Fyda: actually I have not seen that.... but now that I look at it ... its VERY small and insufficient
[07:25] <zetheroo> Fyda: thanks though...
[07:25] <zandos> cjb: you can't just unpack the iso onto a usb flash drive and boot from it?
[07:26] <Fyda> zetheroo: I guess they are looking for help in that department :)
[07:26] <z3wb> how big is the usb drive?
[07:26] <robbster1> Fyda: The external amplifier option isn't there for me
[07:26] <zetheroo> Fyda: I desperately need to get screen expansion working....
[07:26] <Fyda> zetheroo: Multi-head?
[07:27] <z3wb> if you already have an os installed on the computer, you may be able to install gutsy with vmware server
[07:27] <nicholaspaul> Did Pidgin replace Gaim?
[07:27] <Wisteso_> yes
[07:27] <zetheroo> Fyda: I am not sure .... in Windows Xp its Screen Expansion...
[07:27] <Fyda> nicholaspaul: Yes. It's the new name for Gaim.
[07:27] <zetheroo> Fyda: not cloning but extending the desktop
[07:27] <murlidhar> robbster1: the external amplifier option is in open volume control > switches
[07:27] <nicholaspaul> oh right. i wondered how this new app got configured automatically!
[07:27] <JohnRobert> robbster1, do cat -ls /dev/audio
[07:28] <JohnRobert> (at the moment, I'm just trying to see if the kernel has detected a sound card)
[07:28] <Casey> Is it possible to use rm and remove files in subdirectories?
[07:28] <JohnRobert> (I'm also trying to think of easy ways of finding that out)
[07:28] <Fyda> zetheroo: Sounds like dual-head (sometimes also called multi-head, if there are >2 monitors), which I don't know much about.
[07:28] <milestone> hi all
[07:28] <nicholaspaul> Casey: yes
[07:28] <nickrud> Casey: rm -r
[07:28] <Fyda> Casey: rm -r
[07:28] <zetheroo> Fyda: ok...
[07:28] <nickrud> Casey: -r for recursive
[07:28] <Fyda> Casey: That's for "recursive" removal
[07:29] <J-_> Is there a way I can completely remove packages, or purge the packages so when I reinstall the data is back to normal and I can reconfigure Avant, or any other software?
[07:29] <Fyda> nickrud: Oops :P
[07:29] <milestone> when i install clamav packages under feisty i am asked for a password ... which one is that?
[07:29] <nickrud> lol, quickerest
[07:29] <z3wb> im worried; if the fluxbuntu people can't seem to get the iso ready to upload at the deadline they advertised on their main page, then how can they manage to make a decent distro?
[07:29] <desertc> Is there a way to get back the new mail indicator that I used to have on my GNOME task bar in Feisty?
[07:29] <space-man> 5.1 Audio channel problem: i have an onboard sound card supporting 5.1 channels. i have tested and ran all 6 channels. but when i play an AC3 video with totem player, it only outputs stereo despite the sound settings set on AC3 passthrough.
[07:29] <patricknev> how can i create a partition in ubuntu?
[07:30] <flask-> Is anyone else having trouble with the respositories?
[07:30] <robbster1> OK, update
[07:30] <Casey> Fyda: rm -r info.txt will remove info.txt in /subdir1/, /subdir2/, /subdir3/ from the root directory?
[07:30] <z3wb> patricknev: gparted
[07:30] <nickrud> z3wb: the other way to look at that is they were unwilling to release something that wasn't decent
[07:30] <z3wb> perhaps
[07:30] <J-_> !info gparted > patricknev
[07:30] <Necrosan> How come all my dvds are pink scrambles?
[07:30] <nickrud> z3wb: true also
[07:30] <Necrosan> I've installed libdvdcss2
[07:30] <Fyda> milestone: If you're doing something as root, then the password is your own (for your regular user account)
[07:30] <robbster1> I went to switch devices, and my sigmatel is installed, but it just doesn't want to play the sounds
[07:30] <JohnRobert> !info something > JohnRobert
[07:30] <milestone> Fyda: i am root
[07:31] <BHSPitMonkey> Necrosan, try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:31] <patricknev> thank you z3wb
[07:31] <milestone> not as root
[07:31] <JohnRobert> robbster1, chances are the mixer is just turned all the way down..
[07:31] <JohnRobert> or is on mute
[07:31] <Necrosan> trying
[07:31] <robbster1> i checked the mixer, full blast
[07:31] <robbster1> not on mute
[07:31] <milestone> i am doing as root apt-get install clamav-freshclam
[07:31] <prohna> woot got fluxbox working!!!
[07:31] <JohnRobert> robbster1, I don't mean to offend, but did you check the volume control on the laptop?
[07:32] <Airwulf> hello to you all
[07:32] <Fyda> milestone: If you were already logged in as root, you wouldn't be asked for a password.
[07:32] <[chr0n0s]> milestone, antivrus ?
[07:32] <JohnRobert> (stupider things have happened)
[07:32] <robbster1> yeah
[07:32] <[chr0n0s]> milestone, antivirus ?
[07:32] <JohnRobert> hmm
[07:32] <flask-> Hey guys I'm trying to run an 'apt-get update' and I'm getting errors like "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found" -- this is with a fresh sources.list generated by synaptic.
[07:32] <milestone>  * Starting ClamAV virus database updater freshclam password
[07:32] <milestone> [chr0n0s]: yes
[07:32] <Xacarith> Another one having issues with no sound in kde after the update?
[07:32] <z3wb> are blackbox styles and fluxbox styles completely interchangeable?
[07:32] <Fyda> milestone: It could just be asking for a password specifically set within clamav, then?
[07:32]  * nickrud remembers spending a lot of time on someone's sound, and the speaker jack was just a bit loose
[07:32] <[chr0n0s]> z3wb, on site the say it;s compatible one way
[07:32] <BHSPitMonkey> Anyone know how to get gnash set up in firefox?  (I thought canonical said it was going to ship with gutsy?)
[07:32] <milestone> Fyda: clamav was never installed before
[07:32] <Fyda> milestone: It doesn't come with any defaults?
[07:33] <milestone> nope
[07:33] <milestone> Fyda: it won't install
[07:33] <robbster1> nickrud: I am on a laptop. no external speakers
[07:33] <[chr0n0s]> BHSPitMonkey, i could not get it working, ended up with usual player
[07:33] <milestone> Fyda: that is what i am trying to say
[07:33] <z3wb> but yeah gparted just totally fucked up my harddrive today
[07:33] <BHSPitMonkey> [chr0n0s], *cough*AMD64
[07:33] <murlidhar> !themes
[07:33] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:33] <z3wb> i was planning on dualbooting windows and ubuntu
[07:33] <JohnRobert> robbster1, go into system/preferences/sound (on the menu)
[07:33] <Fyda> milestone: Ah. But why can't you install it with sudo?
[07:33] <nickrud> BHSPitMonkey: I think you need to install mozilla-plugin-gnash
[07:33] <JohnRobert> robbster1, then hit test on the sound playback button
[07:33] <z3wb> gparted destroyed my ntfs partition when i tried to resize it
[07:34] <milestone> Fyda: where would be the difference
[07:34] <z3wb> i think its because i didnt shut down windows properly
[07:34] <z3wb> so do that
[07:34] <JohnRobert> !backup
[07:34] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:34] <murlidhar> z3wb: shouldn't destroy it
[07:34] <Xacarith> Well is any one else having trouble with sound in KDE?  I can get it working in Gnome just fine but not kde.....  And flashplayer also has no sound anywhere
[07:34] <nickrud> z3wb: did the same to me, don't know why. Ubuntu booted, but windows was toast
[07:34] <Fyda> milestone: Sudo asks for your regular user password. Logging in as root would require a password which doesn't exist in the standard Ubuntu setup
[07:34] <`eric-> <3 awn
[07:35] <milestone> Fyda: i will try it
[07:35] <robbster1> johnrobert: no sound
[07:35] <BHSPitMonkey> nickrud, hrm, still nothing comes up.
[07:35] <nickrud> BHSPitMonkey: that was based on a package search, I haven't tried to run gnash yet
[07:35] <JohnRobert> robbster1, what is the sound playback drop down set to?
[07:36] <robbster1> johnrobert: autodetect
[07:36] <nickrud> BHSPitMonkey: are you sure you're pointing gnash at flash 7 or 8, it doesn't run 9 (and not sure about 8)
[07:37] <BHSPitMonkey> nickrud, trying various flash instances, the pages just have blank areas on them
[07:37] <BHSPitMonkey> nickrud, let me try something.
[07:37] <JohnRobert> robbster1, what are the options on that dropdown?
[07:37] <nickrud> BHSPitMonkey: none of the devs seem to be hanging around right now, maybe if you ask later
[07:37] <Necrosan> its still pink
[07:37] <Necrosan> wtf
[07:38] <B_166-ER-X> chown -R us ./base
[07:38] <nicholaspaul> my dvd burner wont eject. how do i make it eject?
[07:38] <robbster1> AutoDetect
[07:38] <robbster1> Modem
[07:38] <robbster1> Analog
[07:38] <robbster1> Asla
[07:38] <robbster1> ESD
[07:38] <robbster1> OSS
[07:38] <beasty_> flood! :p
[07:38] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: try sudo eject
[07:38] <z3wb> unmount it
[07:38] <robbster1> nicholaspaul: stick a paperclip in the hole
[07:38] <z3wb> lol yeah
[07:38] <z3wb> or that
[07:38]  * Xacarith starts to wonder if part of the problem is lack of any volume control in kde....
[07:38] <monkey__> /join
[07:39] <nickrud> monkey__: welcome ;p
[07:39] <nicholaspaul> nickrud: wow. Thanks!
[07:39] <JohnRobert> robbster1, it seems the kernel hasn't detected your sound card
[07:39] <robbster1> oh
[07:39] <JohnRobert> you must have a very weird sound card.
[07:39] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: yw. A holdover from the bad old days of cd's :)
[07:39] <robbster1> lol
[07:39] <JohnRobert> very.
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> nickrud: hahah
[07:40] <JohnRobert> what's the model of laptop again?
[07:40]  * Xacarith wonders too why he talks to him self in here any more...
[07:40]  * nickrud mumbles a lot too
[07:40] <JohnRobert> (hint: buy a lenovo/ibm laptop next time)
[07:40] <monkey__> nickrud: ??
[07:40] <jak1> hello room. question: i'm running ubuntu 7.10 and just installed vim via synaptic, but can't find it in the either the menu or the menu editor. any thoughts?
[07:40] <nickrud> monkey__: an attempt at humor on your /join
[07:40] <JohnRobert> jak1, you can add it to the menu manually, but vim is a console application
[07:40] <robbster1> it looks like it recognized it, because the name is right there "Sigmatel STAC9200"
[07:41] <JohnRobert> oh right
[07:41] <JohnRobert> where's that?
[07:41] <zoidberg_> guy i'm currently installing all the updates in edgy before upgrading to gutsy
[07:41] <Myrtti> jak1: it's a console app, start console and type vim
[07:41] <BHSPitMonkey> nickrud, success
[07:41] <bohem> Hey all. I just updated to gutsy but now my sonata mpd can't find my library. I have changed to /media/hda6/music (my folder) in both the program and mpdconf but it still finds nothing. Have I missed anything?
[07:41] <robbster1> in change device
[07:41] <nickrud> jak1: install gvim to get the gui version, it'll show up on the menu
[07:41] <zoidberg_> i had beryl not fusion ...instsalled before...should i remove it before the upgrade?
[07:41] <JohnRobert> jak1, there is gvim, which is a gui(ish) version of vim which will appear on your menu.
[07:41] <JohnRobert> btw, vim ftw
[07:41] <monkey__> nickrud: the / come out twice and too many keys to delete =_)
[07:41] <BHSPitMonkey> nickrud, I had old libflashplayer.so's sitting around in plugin dirs, cleaned them out, all is well
[07:41] <nickrud> BHSPitMonkey: cool
[07:41] <bernd__> Good morning
[07:42] <desertc> Anyone know a new email notification icon for Gutsy ?
[07:42] <robbster1> JohnRobert: In change device
[07:42] <jak1> imsry. my mistake. gvim is the version i installed via synaptic
[07:42] <bernd__> i have a "small" problem :( anyhow i am not possible to get Dualscreen running with Ubunutu 7.10
[07:42] <desertc> bernd__: card?
[07:42] <bernd__> can someone give me a suggestion?
[07:42] <MSTK> firefox has been quite uncooperative since I upgraded to gutsy.  are there any known extensions that might cause problems on 7.10?
[07:42] <bernd__> geForce Go 7600
[07:42] <jak1> i've heard its the best python ide and i'm looking to try that language out
[07:42] <bernd__> works perfect with ZETA and Windows
[07:42] <zoidberg_> i had beryl not fusion ...instsalled before...should i remove it before the upgrade?
[07:42] <zoidberg_> guy i'm currently installing all the updates in edgy before upgrading to gutsy
[07:42] <desertc> bernd__: Monitor types?
[07:42] <nickrud> jak1: try killall gnome-panel, it will auto restart. Also something from the bad old days, the panel has been better behaved recently
[07:42] <bernd__> its a Laptop and a TFT (external)
[07:43] <desertc> bernd__: Try defining the external monitor using Generic LCD and the max resolution
[07:43] <robbster1> is JohnRobert still here?
[07:43] <JohnRobert> yes
[07:43] <nickrud> zoidberg_: going from edgy directly to gutsy isn't really supported; only one release jump at a time.
[07:43] <xTheGoat121x> So... why would certain MP3s in my collection play fine in XMMS but come out double-speed on Audacious?
[07:43] <desertc> bernd__: Then, try different resolutions, until you find one that works
[07:43] <JohnRobert> I'm just doing real life work at the same time as speaking to you.
[07:43] <robbster1> it says that in "change device"
[07:43] <desertc> bernd__: That's what I had to do with my two monitors.  Took a while
[07:43] <robbster1> lol
[07:44] <JohnRobert> where is 'change device'
[07:44] <bernd__> desertc: the problem is that my configuration for the Screen only shows me one screen
[07:44] <Jureg> how do i install a FlashPlayer (which by default uses mozilla install path) into Opera without Wine, any parameters?
[07:44]  * Xacarith is running dual screens with a Geforce 6600le  Took installing nvidia drivers and enabling xinerama
[07:44] <bernd__> is there a different way to configure the external one?
[07:44] <robbster1> uhh,  Open Volume Control>File>Change Device
[07:44] <MSTK> does anyone know where I can adjust compiz settings?
[07:44] <[chr0n0s]> MSTK, try typing ccsm
[07:44] <desertc> bernd__: say again?  Your configuration where?
[07:44] <MSTK> thanks
[07:44] <nickrud> MSTK: install compizconfig-settings-manager , it'll be in the prefs menu as advanced desktop settings
[07:44] <bernd__> desertc: when i click to system and then Screenresolution
[07:45] <bernd__> there is onle the Laptopscreen i can setup
[07:45] <MSTK> nickrud - yeah, i got that.  thanks
[07:45] <chinasky> hello, yesterday i tried to install the gutsy version and i got a udevd message error when the cd is booting, i tried with three differents cds. thanks
[07:45] <JohnRobert> hmm robbster1
[07:45] <Ademan> does tracker not index hidden files? and if it doesn't can i force it to?
[07:45] <JohnRobert> sounds like it should work
[07:45] <desertc> bernd__: I never used that application ---- it gives me an error.  I used Screen and Graphics
[07:45] <robbster1> :-(
[07:45] <jak1> nickrud: thx the killall worked. appreciate it
[07:46] <it> hiiii
[07:46] <nickrud> jak1: yw
[07:46] <robbster1> but the problem is, the sounds isn't there
[07:46] <desertc> Can no one tell me what they are using for email notification?  You all aren't going to check your web mail every couple minutes, I know that.
[07:46] <zoidberg_> nickrud, edgy was the last one...gutsy is the next...it should be supported
[07:46] <Xacarith> does any one here use kde?
[07:46] <jmg> guys any idea how to remotely disable compiz?
[07:46] <it> hiiiii
[07:46] <jmg> desertc: gmail manager
[07:46] <robbster1> HIII
[07:46] <nickrud> zoidberg_: you missed feisty in there, it's in between
[07:46] <zoidberg_> nickrud, i'm sorry i meant i have feisty...my bad dunno what i was thinking...lol
[07:47] <Fyda> D, E, F, G :) Hence the next one is H.
[07:47] <nickrud> zoidberg_: np, that's good to hear
[07:47] <JohnRobert> robbster1, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/134351 << you might find this interesting read
[07:47] <desertc> jmg: Thank you
[07:47] <mtholdenss> is the new wine going to be added to the community repository?
[07:47] <mtholdenss> im trying to get itunes 7 running under wine on ubuntu 7.10
[07:48] <rredd4> wine  yes
[07:48] <rredd4> just d/l it
[07:48] <JohnRobert> surprised the fix didn't make it to gutsy though...
[07:48] <`eric-> mtholdenss: let me know if you accomplish that :P
[07:48] <nickrud> mtholdenss: I don't use wine much, but winehq usually hosts builds of the latest version
[07:48] <Madpilot> mtholdenss, when the next version of Ubuntu is released, yes. No version changes in Ubuntu repos in between releases.
[07:49] <rredd4> ntholdenss  follow these instrucions   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[07:49] <bernd__> desertc: what is the other way to set my resolution if not thru the menubar?
[07:49] <mtholdenss> so im going to have to manually go to the wine hq  site and get the deb package of the update?
[07:49] <JohnRobert> robbster1, it looks like you'll have to install a more recent version of alsa from source....this isn't a very easy task.
[07:49] <JohnRobert> !source
[07:49] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[07:49] <JohnRobert> bah!
[07:49] <Madpilot> mtholdenss, afraid so.
[07:49] <nickrud> !wine | mtholdenss (I believe this shows how to add winehq as a repository, so apt-get works)
[07:49] <ubotu> mtholdenss (I believe this shows how to add winehq as a repository, so apt-get works): WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:49] <power78> anyone here know how to enable digital audio out in ubuntu?
[07:50] <Detra> hi ... Im having trouble with installing my wan ... I'm installing zydas1201 ... but I get an error saying  make get version error 1 ... what does that mean ?
[07:50] <z3wb> fuck it, ill just download gutsy and install blackbox
[07:50] <desertc> bernd__: Do you not have a Screen and Graphics menu item?
[07:50] <bernd__> i am in the german version
[07:50] <bernd__> so i must switch to tell you :)
[07:50] <z3wb> i dont feel like waiting all night for some jerk to upload an iso
[07:50] <z3wb> lol
[07:50] <desertc> !ohmy
[07:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:50] <rredd4> bernd__  dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver    or is it xserver-org
[07:50] <nickrud> z3wb: considered yourself ohmy'ed
[07:50] <z3wb> ohmy'ed?
[07:50] <nickrud> lol, don been got
[07:51] <glen> I have ndiswrapper setup and everything should be working but comp says I got no wireless interface :(
[07:51] <mtholdenss> eric, so u don't think i'll be able to get itunes to work under wine, its been a iffy situation lately, any other windows app works fine haha
[07:51] <zetheroo> can someone help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773544
[07:51] <zetheroo> I am trying to do this Dual Monitor Support With Binary, ATI-Only Big-Desktop
[07:52] <bernd__> desertc: xorg-server is not installed
[07:52] <Detra> hallooo ?
[07:52] <desertc> bernd__: How are you running Xwindows without xorg-server ?
[07:53] <mtholdenss> and another question, when firefox 3 comes to a final release, will 7.10 just upgrade to it or will we have to wait till 8.04?
[07:53] <bernd__> oh sorry, i run GNOME
[07:53]  * nickrud mutters xserver-xorg
[07:53] <desertc> GNOME and KDE are both built on Xwindows
[07:53] <nickrud> mtholdenss: wait
[07:53] <bernd__> ok
[07:53] <bernd__> so thats the error message:
[07:53] <Detra> nobody able to help me ?
[07:53] <bernd__>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[07:53] <bernd__> Paket »xorg-server« ist nicht installiert und es ist keine Info verfügbar.
[07:53] <bernd__> Verwenden Sie dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) zum Untersuchen von Archiven,
[07:53] <bernd__> und dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) zum Auflisten ihres Inhalts.
[07:53] <bernd__> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xorg-server ist nicht installiert
[07:53] <bernd__> bernd@ubuntu:~$
[07:53] <nickrud> mtholdenss: or install the binary, a lot of people run the mozilla builds of both firefox and thunderbird
[07:54] <Reng> what is Xwindows?
[07:54] <Myrtti> !paste | bernd__
[07:54] <ubotu> bernd__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:54] <z3wb> i really love being able to download stuff at 500 kb/s. i remember when it was 5kb/s in the 56k days
[07:54] <rredd4> bernd__ use pastebin
[07:54] <desertc> bernd__: Oh, the package is xserver-xorg, btw
[07:54] <nickrud> bernd__: it's actually named xserver-xorg
[07:54] <Fyda> Detra: What were you trying to compile that gave you the error?
[07:54] <z3wb> i ought to get fiber
[07:54] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone in here have experience with Audacious?  B/C it's playing certain files in my collection at double speed.
[07:54] <Detra> Fyda, zydas
[07:54] <nickrud> z3wb: try cheerios
[07:54] <Detra> Fyda, chipset for my wifi
[07:54] <bernd__> ah that worked desertc
[07:54] <z3wb> lol
[07:55] <z3wb> does anyone here know if FIOS is any good, or is it just a ripoff?
[07:55] <Fyda> Detra: Ah, could you pastebin the make output including the error?
[07:55] <desertc> reng: Xwindows is a wonderful desktop engine for Linux
[07:55] <Detra> !pastebin
[07:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:55] <rredd4> any wine paltalk users here, via gutsy?
[07:55] <kraut> moin
[07:55] <nickrud> evening
[07:56] <Detra> Fyda, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41795/
[07:58] <nicholaspaul> if i'm partitioning a spare drive, what should it be if i want it accessable by OSX and ubuntu?
[07:58] <Xacarith> Ok, one more time.  How do you adjust volume in kde?  I have no volume adjustment showing up any where
[07:58] <thr1lljockey> !initrd
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initrd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <jmg> nicholaspaul: hfs+?
[07:59] <z3wb> Xacarith: alsamixer
[07:59] <z3wb> :3
[07:59] <kekZpriester> yesterday i tried to convert a lexmark driver from rpm to deb and install it. install aborted with an errorcode 127. now update-manager tells me to do a sudo apt-get install -f which aborts with: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/16691/
[07:59] <thr1lljockey> how do i remove the need for an initrd when booting?
[07:59] <zetheroo> can someone help me with this..... I enter sudo aticonfig --query-monitor in my terminal and I get this error msg -- Warning: Could not find configuration file. Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11 -
[07:59] <nickrud> Xacarith: I don't know kde much, but if you're not getting a volume control I'd bet you have deeper problems
[07:59] <jmg> anyone know how i could resize/reposition the output of my screen?
[07:59] <Dima51> Can some body describe how to set sintax hilighting in Vi
[07:59] <nicholaspaul> jmg is that ext2?
[07:59] <jmg> nicholaspaul: no that is the apple file system
[08:00] <rredd4> what is the best driver I should use for my Epson stylus CX3200 all in one printer?
[08:00] <nicholaspaul> jmg:  oh. ext 3?
[08:00] <thr1lljockey> Dima51: you need vim-full for syntax highlighting
[08:00] <z3wb> jmg: see those buttons on your monitor?
[08:00] <Dima51> I'have instal Ubuntu 7.04 but I do not have any colors when
[08:00] <Xacarith> nickrud I'd think so to but my sound works in gnome, and both my sound cards are showing up, and it worked before upgrading to 7.10
[08:00] <jmg> z3wb: i dont have any buttons, this is an aquos
[08:00] <Dima51> I already have vim-full pocket
[08:00] <Killdahl> j #ubuntu-dk
[08:00] <monkey__> for some reason, i feel gusty is slower than feisty on my lappy
[08:01] <Dima51> I have install it, but steel have no sinax highlighing
[08:01] <thr1lljockey> Dima51: test it in vi by doing :set syntax
[08:01] <nicholaspaul> should i use fat32?
[08:01] <rredd4> monkey__  maybe you should use xubuntu
[08:01] <Greencookie> Man I can't even get to install gutsy
[08:01] <monkey__> rredd4: i am
[08:01] <nickrud> Xacarith: ps -A | grep arts , do you get output? That's the kde sound server, I think
[08:01] <Dima51> Ok, I'll try to do it right now
[08:01] <[chr0n0s]> can anyone help me with this --> http://pastebin.ca/746492
[08:01] <nickrud> Xacarith: and probably you'd get better help on #kubuntu , if anyone's there
[08:01] <jmg> z3wb: the menu doesnt let me resize
[08:02] <z3wb> hmm
[08:02] <rredd4> monkey__ i am using 7.10 ubuntu on a dell c810  1.3ghz 512 ram
[08:02] <Xacarith> nickrud Thanks
[08:02] <monkey__> rredd4: xbuntu running gui feels the same as ubuntu runs the same gui app. i.e. xchat
[08:02] <z3wb> does anyone know if icewm is any good?
[08:02] <thr1lljockey> z3wb: the only way for you to know is to try it yourself
[08:02] <nickrud> jmg: there's an old app called xvidtune, lets you fiddle with timings to resize your screen.
[08:03] <rredd4> monkey__ xfce?
[08:03] <teratoma> resuming-from-hibernation only works for me if i choose booting into 'recovery' mode, is that intentional?
[08:03] <z3wb> i like blackbox