[12:49] <ArthurArchnix> Is this channel recorded, and if so, where can I go to search for conversations?
[12:49] <Nitroray> Hischild, Thanks
[12:49] <willis_> !install | khalood
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[12:49] <LoLLo> pajaman ... i don't know but i've deleted the Adobe folder of the desktop and then it doesn't run anymore !!!
[12:49] <hischild> !log
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[12:50] <LoLLo> uhm ... i'm scared to delete skype too :D
[12:50] <ArthurArchnix> cheers hischild
[12:50] <hischild> ArthurArchnix, ^
[12:50] <legend2440> dookdook: maybe do a search for *.deb will tell you where they are
[12:50] <brambo> pajamian: did u get what i pasted from cat ?
[12:50] <pajamian> brambo: yes
[12:50] <X-Seti>  Registered: 3 years 17 weeks 4 days (20h 54m 18s) ago
[12:50] <X-Seti> LOL
[12:50] <pajamian> brambo: that looks correct
[12:50] <franz1789> hi, why everytime I access Ubuntu, I have to do "metacity --replace" to see windows border? what can i do to make all work correcly?
[12:50] <X-Seti> guess this is my return
[12:50] <fastfinger> Hmm, any idea  what i should be looking for, at login screen i get a flickring screen (like a tv without cable connected black with gray dots flickring)
[12:50] <Nitroray> Hischild - How to just restart everything?? Like really everything ? not reboot.
[12:51] <khalood> I don't have a cd rom , and unetbootin is hard to deal with
[12:51] <Nitroray> Hischild, maybe this works..
[12:51] <willis_> franz1789,  seems that compiz or somthing is crashing. Try disabling all the desktop effects.
[12:51] <khalood> any simple explaination
[12:51] <pajamian> brambo: give me one min ...
[12:51] <franz1789> willis_, I have not compiz or stuff like these
[12:51] <pajamian> brambo: I'm going to experiment some
[12:51] <hischild> Nitroray, that would be the compiz --replace
[12:51] <LoLLo> pajaman ... i don't know but i've deleted the Adobe folder of the desktop and then it doesn't run anymore !!! i just wanna move that folders in a right position and don't have them in thedesktop
[12:51] <brambo> pajamian: i get a strange message when i open my update manager, i will post a link from pastebin
[12:52] <willis_> franz1789,  are you saying you remioved compiz?  right click desktop -> change wallpaper -> Visual effects  Select NONE.
[12:52] <pajamian> brambo: don't worry about it, the update manager won't work if there's a bad line in the sources.list ...
[12:53] <brambo> pajamian: ok i just thought there was a error somewhere
[12:53] <Nitroray> How to put graphics to none, without using the mouse? I can use Terminal.
[12:53] <hischild> X-Seti, welcome home?
[12:53] <franz1789> willis_, yep, I removed it, but I never used it, so the visual effects are already set to none
[12:53] <LoLLo> how to cut a file from the terminal ? what's the command ?
[12:53] <fastfinger> I wrote everythig down here, if any one could help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4421205#post4421205
[12:53] <franz1789> willis_, the problem is in metacity, don't know what is it
[12:54] <willis_> franz1789,  by removeing it - you broke some things.  - gnome is launching a 'default window manager' and by removeing compiz - you broke how it figures out the default.
[12:54] <fastfinger> LoLLo: cut as in cut and paste? use mv command
[12:54] <Nitroray> Anybody? HOW to put graphics to NONE, without using the mouse ??? ?
[12:54] <willis_> franz1789,  had a similer issue on a laptop.. i forget how i fixed it.
[12:54] <X-Seti> thanks mate
[12:55] <X-Seti> ok, time to get e-uae working
[12:55]  * X-Seti runs away, bbl
[12:55] <willis_> Nitroray,  you meanyou have a pointer but cant move it due to not having a mouse>?  or you dont even have a pointer?
[12:56] <Nitroray> willis_ I have a mouse, but I turned graphiscs to ectra and installed some thing (what was it Hischild? ) and now I can't see my pointer, and I see echo's in the screen :(
[12:56] <Nitroray> Willis_ I have a pointer I mean.
[12:56] <pajamian> brambo: sudo su -c 'echo "deb http://apt.rigsofrods.com/ /" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/rigsofrods.list'
[12:56] <LoLLo> if i cut skype and move it into another folder it doesn't work !! " the son process isn't found " ... !!!!
[12:57] <willis_> Nitroray,  i rember some way to use the numpad as a mouse.. but i forget where i even saw that at.
[12:57] <hischild> willis_, he was missing xserver-xgl
[12:57] <pajamian> LoLLo: you mean how do you move a file in the terminal?
[12:57] <LoLLo> yes i've already done it np paja
[12:57] <LoLLo> but
[12:57] <brambo> pajamian: just goes back to dekstop:~$ also
[12:57] <LoLLo> if i cut skype and move it into another folder it doesn't work !! " the son process isn't found " ... !!!!
[12:58] <Nitroray> willis_ My pointer is okay, but Ubunutu fxxed up the image on my screen. The mouse icons.
[12:58] <pajamian> brambo: I know, it's supposed to
[12:58] <pajamian> brambo: sudo apt-get update
[12:58] <Nitroray> Iwillis_ I can see it some seconds, and then some sedonds it disappears..
[12:58] <pajamian> LoLLo: how did you install skype in the first place?
[12:58] <Nitroray> *seconds
[12:58] <brambo> pajamian: it showed alot of stuff like what i posted at  pastebin
[12:59] <pajamian> brambo: that's fine
[12:59] <LoLLo> i don't remember i've done it a couple of mounths ago ... :s
[12:59] <pajamian> brambo: sudo apt-get install rigsofrods rigsofrods-data rigsofrods-wx rigsofrods-addon
[12:59] <Nitroray> willis_ The only thing that does not work, is the icon of the mouse, the  mouse does work itself.
[13:00] <pajamian> LoLLo: do you remember if you installed it from a .deb or from a repository (apt-get install or synaptic)?
[13:00] <brambo> pajamian: E: Couldn't find package rigsofrods
[13:00] <Nitroray> it did work, before I installed something. for the graphics, what was it again Hischild ?
[13:00] <hischild> xserver-xgl
[13:00] <LoLLo> i think i must keep them in the desktop arrrrrrg
[13:01] <pajamian> brambo: not sure what to say, I tried just those steps and it goes on to list the packages and ask me if I want to install them.
[13:01] <LoLLo> internet explorer doesn't run too
[13:01] <LordCrimson> hello. Could somebody say, what mean that suggestions, that appeared after i entered "scp" and pressed <tab><tab>? after "cat" there are no such things. http://rafb.net/p/e8LyvA13.html
[13:01] <Nitroray> willis_ It was xserver-xgl, thank you Hischild
[13:01] <pajamian> brambo: I actually just tried it on my own computer and it works.
[13:01] <pajamian> LoLLo: Internet Explorer?
[13:01] <brambo> pajamian: then there is a error somewhere on my pc?
[13:02] <pajamian> brambo: I don't know.
[13:02] <Lin> ???
[13:02] <Nitroray> Hischild - is it possible that you take over control over my computer ? I have some app's installed for it, just in case of this would happen.
[13:02] <FD_F> Hello i install 8800GT driver on Ubuntu and the driver work grate but when i restart it not working  so i need install again the nvidia driver  every time i restart
[13:03] <brambo> pajamian: before we started this i was able to use update manager now i can't..
[13:03] <hischild> Nitroray, yes i could, yet there's not much that i can do atm since i'm not sure why it does that
[13:03] <pajamian> brambo: try it now
[13:03] <Nitroray> Hischild - What application would I open, can you help me with it ? Maybe you will be able to see my cursor.
[13:03] <brambo> pajamian: are you on 32 or 64bit?
[13:04] <pajamian> brambo: 32
[13:04] <pajamian> brambo: are you on 64?
[13:04] <brambo> pajamian: yes
[13:04] <brambo> pajamian: maybe that is why
[13:04] <pajamian> brambo: that could be your problem, there are no 64 bit packages in the repo.
[13:04] <hischild> Nitroray, i dont' know how to set up vnc properly. and ssh won't allow me to see your desktop
[13:04] <brambo> pajamian: probably
[13:05] <Nitroray> Hischild - Know anything to do it ? Just any program ???
[13:05] <pajamian> brambo: I tend to recommend that people don't use the 64 bit ubuntu for desktop for reasons like this.
[13:05] <hischild> Nitroray, any general vnc program should be able to do it
[13:05] <Nitroray> Hischild - Can you please use it on me ?
[13:05] <hischild> Nitroray, i don't know how to set up vnc properly so i can't  ... mostly since the most difficult part would be on your end
[13:06] <hischild> what you can do, is hit ctrl alt f2, login and remove xserver-xgl and then reboot
[13:06] <willis_> You really dont want to use vnc over the internet. without a ssh tunnle either.
[13:06] <FreezeS> hi people
[13:06] <brambo> pajamian: how can i send you a image of what i see when i try update manager? asks me to Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible and some other info
[13:06] <FreezeS> I just upgraded from feisty to hardy (64 bit) and there seems to be a problem upgrading update-manager
[13:06] <FreezeS> python throws an error
[13:06] <FreezeS> is this a known bug ?
[13:06] <pajamian> brambo: try this instead ...
[13:07] <willis_> gnome has a 'share desktop' feature that uses vnc.  to share the current desktop. - but ive not used it befor.  Not sure how secure it is comared to normal vnc.
[13:07] <hischild> FreezeS, hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <Nitroray> Hischild - can't I just do something like: Disable xserver-xgl and reboot ?????
[13:07] <pajamian> brambo: sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:07] <FreezeS> hischild: thanks
[13:07] <pajamian> brambo: then copy and paste the results into the pastebin
[13:07] <hischild> Nitroray, it's easier to do sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[13:08] <brambo> pajamian: its doing some updates
[13:08] <pajamian> brambo: that's good, that's the command-line version of the update manager
[13:09] <brambo> pajamian: after this the regular update manager should be working maybe?
[13:09] <pajamian> brambo: hopefully.
[13:09] <brambo> pajamian: ok there is alot of text, should i still post in pastebin?
[13:09] <pajamian> brambo: if it doesn't ask someone else in here for help, unfortunately I have to head to bed, wife is bugging me.
[13:10] <brambo> pajamian: okay, im sorry to keep you
[13:10] <pajamian> brambo: no problem, and good luck
[13:10] <brambo> pajamian: thanks for what you have done
[13:10] <Nitroray> Hischild - While removing it said: 18 packages where not upgraded and/or updated
[13:10] <hischild> Nitroray, so  --> update
[13:10] <hischild> sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:10] <mohamed_> i installed acces point connected to thr router, any computer connected to access point get ip from the router , my question is it possible that computers don't get router ip or i can use different ip for clients any help ?
[13:11] <Nitroray> Hischild - NOw its already removed :(
[13:11] <hischild> Nitroray, yes it has been removed if you executed my previous command. Now , since there are still unupdated packages around, you can update it
[13:14] <Nitroray> Hischild?
[13:14] <Nitroray> it worked.
[13:14] <hischild> yes
[13:14] <hischild> good
[13:15] <brambo> i think im gonna head out for a bit, later everyone
[13:15] <Nitroray> Yeah, but I really need the Extra Grapphics, I need to show my school that we need to use Ubuntu ipo XP...
[13:15] <hischild> Nitroray, but you have your mouse back?
[13:16] <JuJuBee> I am having trouble starting dansguardian.  I get this error ... Error binding server socket (is something else running on the filter port and ip? [8080 <IP_ADDRESS>])  How do I see what else is using port 8080?
[13:16] <[D]ANIEL[a]> dfsdfdhgjn
[13:16] <[D]ANIEL[a]> so prais
[13:17] <Nitroray> Hischild - Yes, but I think I could not update because of my next error: when I close some application like Pidgin, it should be on the Bar right ? like a small icon. well. it keeps me online, but it won't get placed at the toolbar :( how to solve this problem ?
[13:17] <nikon252> anyone know how I can solve this problem:
[13:17] <hischild> Nitroray, usually the apps have their own preferences for that. You can check for pidgin in it's options
[13:17] <nikon252> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libvolume-id0_113-0ubuntu17_amd64.deb: files list file for package `mono-runtime' is missing final newline
[13:17] <soussou> can I ask a little question here? I have a weird color scheme on my box, I like it a lot, but when I use firefox to search for something, the suggestions that pop up are unreadable, as they are black on a black background.
[13:17] <soussou> any ideas how this can be changed?
[13:18] <Nitroray> Hischild - No, it aint that, becus when I use Evolution, it happens too, long time this did not happen, and I did not change configuration.. :(
[13:18] <hischild> Nitroray, that's odd ... :(
[13:18] <hischild> Nitroray, i'm not sure why it'd do that
[13:18] <willis_> JuJuBee,  you are running it as root/with sudo? -  (other then that - i got no clue)
[13:19] <JuJuBee> willis_ : yes
[13:19] <Nitroray> Hischild - Is there a way to get to the very very very 1st settings from Ubunut, I installed some 3rd party progs. I guess its that...
[13:19] <Presario> guys, when i am in the graphical ubuntu desktop and i disable xserver, my monitor says no input
[13:19] <willis_> JuJuBee,  sure you havent accidently ran it twice?
[13:19] <hischild> JuJuBee, netstat -a :-)
[13:19] <hischild> Nitroray, other then a reinstall? not afaik :(
[13:20] <fujin> hiyas. I've got a server which is reporting high disk usage, yet du -sh /* doesn't reveal where the disk usage actually is, and I don't know why, it's like it's hidden or something
[13:20] <Nitroray> Hischild - What means afaik ?
[13:20] <fujin> is there some other cli tool that can better tell me where disk usag eis?
[13:20] <soussou> anybody has an idea how to change the color scheme of firefox pop-up suggestions when one uses the google window for searching something?
[13:20] <surrounder> Nitroray: as far as I know
[13:20] <hischild> Nitroray, as far as i know
[13:20] <Nitroray> thanks
[13:20] <soussou> When I use firefox to search for something, the suggestions that pop up are unreadable, as they are black on a black background.
[13:20] <bod_> hischild, hey dude,.how did the graphics card thing go ?
[13:20] <soussou> any ideas how this can be changed?
[13:20] <hischild> bod_, fine!
[13:21] <Nitroray> Somebody else know how to get to the blanco Ubuntu? So it will only have the standard programs like Evolution Mozilla and Pidgin ???
[13:21] <bod_> soussou, firefox preferences-->colours preference   afaik
[13:21] <hischild> bod_, yet now i'm trying to do the same thing on 7,10, since hardy is a little bit 2 unstable for me atm
[13:21] <soussou> bod: I tried that one, it doesn't work
[13:21] <bod_> hischild, wicked! how did you fix the gdm carsh?
[13:21] <bod_> soussou, chane your theme?
[13:21] <JuJuBee> hischild : no dansguardian listed
[13:22] <hischild> bod_, apparently it works fine when i turn acpi off ... the only thing i'm still thinking about is why the live cd would crash when i turned acpi off
[13:22] <hischild> bod_, and with the i386 kernel instead of the generic :-)
[13:22] <bod_> hischild, sounds painfully complicated,.,.
[13:23] <hischild> bod_, only took me all night :-)
[13:23] <bod_> ;~)
[13:23] <soussou> bod: it's a radical solution
[13:24] <bod_> soussou, allow firefox to use default firefox theme not your theme?
[13:24] <hischild> soussou, which solution ... ?
[13:24] <bod_> hischild, changing whole theme
[13:24] <hischild> ah
[13:24] <soussou> bod: how would u do that?
[13:24] <soussou> I would love to be able to do that
[13:25] <soussou> but I don't know how to
[13:25] <Nitroray> Hischild- Where the f**k you from, Im from holland, you too :D
[13:25] <hischild> yush :-)
[13:25] <Nitroray> Hischild - Only EN huh ?
[13:25] <bod_> !language | Nitroray
[13:25] <Pici> !language | Nitroray
[13:25] <ubotu> Nitroray: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:25] <hischild> Nitroray, #ubuntu-nl ;-)
[13:25] <Digi> ok I think i messed up my add and remove list after trying to install wine and I have tried the sudo apt-get update and the sudo apt-get install -p and not known on line 1 in source list
[13:26] <Nitroray> Hischild - You come there too ?
[13:26] <hischild> yep
[13:26] <soussou> bod: how would u change the color scheme for firefox only?
[13:27] <bod_> soussou, edit-->preferences-->content tab-->advanced-->tick the 'use own coulours box'
[13:27] <legend2440> JuJuBee are you using a proxy server?
[13:27] <JuJuBee> legend2440: yes, squid but after dansguardian and it uses 3128
[13:27] <Nitroray> Bye BYe all! @ #ubuntu-nl
[13:28] <legend2440> JuJuBee: yes, The proxy server must be started BEFORE dansguardian
[13:28] <fujin> hrm.. I just created a disk usage report with 'durep' and well, there's 50GB missing somewhere
[13:28] <soussou> bod: I don't have that option, but thanks anyway
[13:29] <bod_> soussou, what ff version have you got?
[13:30] <itai-michaelson> Digi, can you post your sources list?
[13:30] <soussou> bod: <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:30] <ArthurArchnix> Anyone else see all those network-manager debugging messages before gdm comes up before login, and before usplash comes up on shutdown?
[13:30] <bod_> soussou, then you do have that option,.,.which bit cant you find?
[13:31] <soussou> use own color scheme
[13:31] <hischild> bod_, i just installed it ... and so far it works ... now for gdm ...
[13:31] <Digi> ect/apt/sources.listd/winehg.list
[13:31] <soussou> it's not available, so I must have a non traditional firefox
[13:31] <soussou> I think the firefox i have has been tweaked a lot
[13:32] <Digi> oops i forgot a.
[13:32] <bod_> soussou, sorry, instead of advanced choose -->colours-->box reads "allow sites to use their own colours rather then mine"            (or something close to that)
[13:32] <itai-michaelson> digi i dont understand what error are you getting?
[13:32] <tinman> My X server is failing to load, where can I find the error logs? (I am on live cd)
[13:33] <soussou> bod: I have that one ticked already
[13:33] <bod_> soussou, oh, sorry, thats the only thing i can think of
[13:33] <bod_> soussou, try #firefox or #mozilla
[13:33] <soussou> it's only when I am searching and firefox throws some suggestions that the color scheme gets messy
[13:33] <soussou> bod: thanks man
[13:34] <bod_> np ;~)
[13:34] <soussou> I appreciate your help
[13:34] <fujin> /dev/sda1 64G   55G  5.8G  91% /.. but, http://junglist.gen.nz/usage/0.html
[13:34] <fujin> i can't see the usage
[13:34] <fujin> anyone know of htis?
[13:36] <ks3> fujin, are you saying that the amounts don't add up?
[13:36] <fujin> ks3: indeed
[13:37] <ks3> fujin, by default, an amount is "reserved", i believe 10%. it can be changed with tune2fs
[13:37] <neville_> The options for Ark have disappeared from my context menu. How do I add them back to it?
[13:37] <tinman> Does anyone where when I can find the error logs for the X.org? During boot up it says failed to start
[13:38] <derek> i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to use i guess its binary
[13:38] <fujin> 10% != 50~ GB
[13:38] <legend2440> JuJuBee: have you read this http://www.linux.com/articles/113733
[13:38] <inx-one> tinman: /var/log/Xorg.log
[13:38] <hischild> bod_, acpi=off is the winner for me
[13:39] <tinman> inx-one: # cat Xorg.log
[13:39] <bod_> hischild, god stuff
[13:39] <tinman> cat: Xorg.log: No such file or directory
[13:39] <derek> this is a crazy adjustment from windows
[13:39] <richee> ubotu hi
[13:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:39] <tinman> inx-one: I mounted my root partition and I am actually searching it there
[13:39] <derek> hi
[13:39] <Digi> well I tired to install wine and no I have no add/remove list when i bring up the add/remove list says there in a error and i should fix it but doing a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install -p now I get this when i do the update part E: Type '-- -21:10:01-- -' is not know on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.li
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <rara_jelek_> ;o;o
[13:39] <FloodBot2> rara_jelek_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <itai-michaelson> digi, if you get an error realting to your sources list - its probably better to post your sources list (the command is "cat /etc/apt/sources.list")
[13:40] <inx-one> tinman: full path - or first  do cd /var/log/
[13:40] <CreativeEmbassy> i'm having a rough time with mysql here :-(
[13:40] <LoLLo> pajaman are u in ?
[13:40] <CreativeEmbassy> couldn't start it no matter what I did, so I'm doing a complete removal of all packages
[13:40] <richee> how are you doing ubotu?
[13:41] <tinman> inx-one: cd /mountpoint/var/log is what I am doing
[13:41] <CreativeEmbassy> anyone here have experience with mysql?
[13:41] <derek> howwhen i try to install flashplayer or reader it says in the page  i get error :not supported error ect...
[13:41] <inx-one> tinman: correct
[13:41] <bod_> !anyone | CreativeEmbassy
[13:41] <ubotu> CreativeEmbassy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[13:41] <ks3> fujin, ahh, sorry, didn't look closely enough at the numbers... do the numbers from that web report match up with running du manually?
[13:41] <CreativeEmbassy> I don't have a real question yet. ;-)
[13:41] <derek> i been looking for answers
[13:41] <fujin> ks3: yes
[13:41] <fujin> they match up
[13:41] <derek> almost a week my head hurts
[13:42] <tinman> inx-one: when I booted, it tells me x server failed to load and I should fix it before i can start it, the error was saying something about too many parameter on like 47 or osmethign similar
[13:42] <inx-one> tinman: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:43] <gpellis64> derek: 64 bit ubuntu
[13:43] <tinman> inx-one: thorugh live cd?
[13:44] <inx-one> tinman: ah, no - try booting from the hard drive in recovery mode
[13:44] <inx-one> tinman: you should get a root prompt that way
[13:44] <macafe> I'm using Ubuntu Gutsy with beryl effects and when I try open the program "Jude Community UML" happen this error of Java < http://pastebin.com/d17fdaff6 >. What I can do to solve this?
[13:44] <tinman> inx-one: And I will not need to be connected to the internet right?
[13:44] <inx-one> tinman: then reconfigure X as above
[13:44] <tinman> Okey, thanks
[13:45] <inx-one> tinman:  X has nothing to do with the network - at least for config purposes :)
[13:46] <willit> Hi there all, I was just wondering if I was in the correct place to ask about an Ubuntu installation problem?
[13:46] <Kira> something is wrong with my Apache config
[13:47] <Pendeta> Is there a channel for LAN/WAN discussions?
[13:47] <inx-one> willit: just ask - and yes probably :)
[13:47] <hischild> Pendeta, you're in it if it's about ubuntu :-)
[13:47] <willit> ok thx, I am just not sure as this is the first time I been to anything like this
[13:47] <Kira> some how all requests, regardless of domain name, are being directed to one path.
[13:47] <inx-one> !welcome | willit
[13:47] <ubotu> willit: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[13:48] <Pendeta> hischild, it's mixed Windows XP and Linux (not sure of he flavor).
[13:48] <hischild> Pendeta, and what's the trouble you're having?
[13:49] <willit> well my question was, when I am trying to install ubuntu from a cd and it gets as far as detecting the disks and nothing happens nothing is shown and I don't think it is findinganything and I was wondering if there was a way I can put some drivers somewhree for it o use to recognise my drives
[13:49] <inx-one> willit: how much RAM do you have ?
[13:49] <Slart> I have a ext3 partition, total size about 700 Gb, with about 1300 files in about 250 folders taking up approx 300Gb. If I open this partition in nautilus it takes a couple of seconds to show the files... 1300 files doesn't seem like a lot for ext3 to handle.  Is there anything I can do to speed this up? would another filesystem produce better results?
[13:50] <Pendeta> hischild, can my own DSL modem block me from connecting to my own website on a remote server (running Linux)?
[13:50] <willit> I have a 1GB of ram, ps, how do I message to someone on this
[13:50] <hischild> Pendeta, depending on your dsl modem it can do that yes.
[13:50] <Digi> there is list which one do I get
[13:50] <inx-one> !msg
[13:50] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you.  However, I know what it was set to. How can I set it back?
[13:51] <willit> ah ok thx for htat info, I am learning the eticate of this too :-)
[13:51] <inx-one> willit: 1 Gig is plenty - does anything happen at all?
[13:51] <poeticalsupra> will regular yahoo messenger and other things of that nature work on ubuntu?
[13:51] <erUSUL> Slart: maybe using tune2fs to turn on dir_index
[13:52] <erUSUL> Slart: maybe you can tweak other tunables...
[13:52] <willit> well at the detect drive screen it pops up something detecting drives that disapears then a I get a busy mouse icon and thats it
[13:52] <_maney> So what's with abiword (Gutsy)?  Just installed it to print a student's document from home (amazing - they haven't all shelled out for M$ Offi$e!), and all it does is crash  :-(
[13:52] <Slart> erUSUL: ah... sounds interesting.. I'll give it a try, see if it does any good
[13:52] <inx-one> willit: if you can't get the live CD install to work, try the "alternate" Cd instead
[13:53] <Pendeta> hischild, diagnostics on the modem say PPP Authentication fails. Is that a problem with my modem, or with the ISP itself?
[13:53] <hischild> Pendeta, can you access the internet in general?
[13:53] <CLC> oi pessoal
[13:53] <Pendeta> hischild, yes.
[13:53] <inx-one> willit: many people have more success with the alternate
[13:53] <_damir> can somebody help
[13:53] <_damir> i cant connect as root
[13:53] <_damir> sudo command not work ?
[13:53] <CLC> eu estou com o linux aqui e um grub no inicio
[13:53] <erUSUL> _damir: error msg?
[13:54] <_damir> no
[13:54] <erUSUL> !pt | CLC
[13:54] <_damir> just cant connect :S
[13:54] <ubotu> CLC: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:54] <_damir> tj login
[13:54] <CLC> se eu instalar o windows na particao dele agora vai dar erro ?
[13:54] <itai-michaelson> digi put the command i gave you in the terminal , copy the output to this website :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, click "paste" and give me the URL
[13:54] <inx-one> _damir: Please don't /msg people without asking
[13:54] <CLC> OK
[13:54] <willit> ok I am downloading a cd for the latest ubuntu version so I will try that, but I am unsure its live or alternate, how do I know?
[13:54] <CLC> sorry
[13:54] <hischild> _damir, that's normal. There is no root password.
[13:54] <hischild> !sudo
[13:54] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:54] <hischild> !root | _damir
[13:54] <ubotu> _damir: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:54] <erUSUL> !pm | _damir
[13:54] <ubotu> _damir: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:54] <_damir> i cant connect with
[13:54] <_damir> sudo su
[13:55] <inx-one> willit: does it boot to a desktop or just sit there?
[13:55] <_maney> willit: the alternate's usual filename includes "alternate"
[13:55] <erUSUL> _damir: you are using sudo wrongly
[13:55] <hischild> Pendeta, it is just the server you are unable to access?
[13:55] <erUSUL> !sudo | _damir
[13:55] <willit> thcx maney
[13:55] <hischild> Pendeta, can other access it?
[13:55] <ubotu> _damir: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[13:55] <willit> and yes it boots to the desktop and I click the install icon
[13:55] <erUSUL> _damir: please read that documentation up
[13:55] <tinman> inx-one: i ran that command after i chrooted :s
[13:55] <tinman> inx-one: i am getting a  No X server known for your video hardware
[13:55] <erUSUL> _damir: if you want a root shell use sudo -i
[13:55] <jrib> _maney: abiword works fine here.  Tried running abiword from a terminal and looking for interesting output?
[13:56] <erUSUL> !rootshell > _damir
[13:56] <_maney> $ abiword
[13:56] <_maney> Aborted (core dumped)
[13:56] <inx-one> willit: then you have the live CD + installer - try the alternate CD ( it has a text installer but it is quite easy too)
[13:56] <_maney> tried both "abiword" and "abiword-gtk" packages
[13:56] <Pendeta> hischild, I had my wife go to an internet cafe to see if she could access it from there, and she could. And the Internet cafe uses the same ISP.
[13:56] <Slart> erUSUL: hmm.. no difference.. but I will look into some of the other things you can change using tune2fs.. thansk
[13:56] <inx-one> tinman: ouch
[13:56] <_maney> the latter first - it did NOT install the boatload of dependencies the former did
[13:57] <CLC> hi If I install the windows in the there particion. I going have the problem?
[13:57] <_maney> but they both behave just the same
[13:57] <tinman> inx-one: was working for past 6 months :<
[13:57] <CLC> I speak english verry bad ... sorry ...
[13:57] <jrib> _maney: ubuntu version? architecture?
[13:57] <inx-one> tinman: try choosing vesa when you do  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:57] <willit> thx a load inx-one and others who helped I will try that alternate cd out now see if that helps :-)
[13:57] <erUSUL> Slart: keep in mind that turning up dir_index only aply to new files/folders the one already on the fs do not use it iirc
[13:57] <hischild> Pendeta, it sounds strange. Unless you set up some sort of ip block somewhere along the way, which can be on your modem or your server, you should be able to access it
[13:57] <legend2440> _maney what kind of doc is it?
[13:57] <_maney> jrib: Gutsy, i386.  crashes with no document, see above
[13:58] <inx-one> tinman: at least vesa should get you into X
[13:58] <inx-one> willit: no worries - good luck and come back if you have troubles
[13:58] <Slart> erUSUL: ah.. I saw in the manual that running e2fsck -D on the filesystem orders directories and such.. I'm doing that atm
[13:58] <tinman> inx-one: The X server configuration file associates your video card with a name    │   │ that you may provide.
[13:59] <legend2440> _maney yes i see that but you could try gedit or openoffice if you need to print something quickly
[13:59] <tinman> do i need to name it?
[13:59] <Pendeta> hischild, I'm in Indonesia, and the web server in in the USA. Could that have anything to do with it?
[13:59] <rx-DONNiE> is there an easy way to recover or reinstall ubuntu?
[13:59] <inx-one> tinman: just use the defaults until you come to the driver section - then choose vesa
[13:59] <_maney> legend2440: that's an option, but he XML will take a bunch of cleaning up, reformatting... and the issue HERE is that abiword ralphs
[13:59] <ppibburr> rx-
[13:59] <ppibburr> rx- What is meant by recover?
[14:00] <tinman> inx-one: after i choosed vesa, it asked me that
[14:00] <erUSUL> Slart: also you can play with the journal mode of ext3 (mount option data=whatever)
[14:00] <inx-one> tinman: and choose the "eaasy" option - we are just trying to make X work
[14:00] <hischild> Pendeta, not as far as my knowledge goes
[14:00] <rx-DONNiE> deleted some files that shouldnt be deleted
[14:00] <inx-one> tinman: hmmm - shouldn't matter as far as I know
[14:00] <archman> a little ot: where to find channel xmms?
[14:00] <tinman> inx-one: so i just leave the name as Generic Vedio Card?
[14:00] <Slart> erUSUL: you think the journal is causing it?... well.. it's worth trying
[14:00] <tinman> k
[14:00] <inx-one> tinman: yes
[14:00] <ppibburr> what type of files?
[14:00] <rx-DONNiE> so i need to get ubuntu back in its origional state
[14:00] <inx-one> tinman: in general, the defaults are OK
[14:01] <Pendeta> hischild, ok, many thanks.
[14:01] <Slart> rx-DONNiE: depends on what files you deleted
[14:01] <tinman> inx-one: k ^^
[14:01] <rx-DONNiE> deleted gstreamer via synaptics, and it deleted some files with it
[14:01] <tinman> inx-one: it askes me amount of memory to be used by vedio card? :o
[14:01] <gpellis64> what is the next ubuntu title
[14:01] <piotreek> Hi guys!
[14:01] <rx-DONNiE> getting errors like
[14:01] <erUSUL> Slart: ext3 does full data metadata journalling by default (slower) other fs only journal metadata by default
[14:01] <rx-DONNiE> couldnt find gnome: mix applet
[14:01] <archman> gpellis64 hardy heron?
[14:01] <Slart> rx-DONNiE: I supposed you could boot from a live cd and try copying files from the live system to your harddrive.. I don't think it can get worse by trying that =)
[14:01] <rx-DONNiE> and gnome: trash applet
[14:01] <piotreek> can somebody tell me where in Kubuntu 7.10 default iptables rules are set?
[14:02] <inx-one> tinman: but once you have X working, you might want to google your video card etc - the memory just leave blank
[14:02] <ppibburr> apt-get install gstreamer?
[14:02] <gpellis64> archman:thank you
[14:02] <inx-one> tinman: as I said, just accept the defaults except for vesa
[14:02] <tinman> inx-one: asaik, i have an inbuild graphics card, a tomato mother board with a intel celron processor
[14:02] <archman> gpellis64: no stable release yet....
[14:02] <erUSUL> piotreek: there are no "default iptables rules" on (k,x, )ubuntu
[14:02] <piotreek> i have writed firewall script but when i restart my ubuntu my firewall rules
[14:02] <Slart> erUSUL: yes.. but this is a filesystem that rarely changes.. I didn't think the journal was involved in reading data from a fs.. but I might be wrong.
[14:02] <piotreek> are from out of space
[14:02] <rx-DONNiE> hmmmm
[14:03] <piotreek> and i cannot acces internet etc..
[14:03] <rx-DONNiE> I currently have dualboot
[14:03] <rx-DONNiE> does it still maintain that when reinstalling?
[14:03] <piotreek> i am starting it by /etc/init.d/firewall
[14:03] <erUSUL> piotreek: in a default install 'sudo iptables -L' should return empty rules
[14:03] <inx-one> tinman: you might need to know more than that :) Try running   lspci | grep VGA
[14:03] <piotreek> erUSUL, the problem is not returning empty rules
[14:04] <piotreek> and not returning rules writed by me executed on firewall script
[14:04] <ppibburr> rx-DONNIE if you have dependency problems from removing gstreamer, the apt-get install gstreamer should fix it
[14:04] <jrib> _maney: hmm, first try creating a fresh new user and verify it crashes on that account.  If it does, obtain a backtrace (see ubotu)
[14:04] <erUSUL> piotreek: do a 'iptables -F' to flush everything before adding your own rules
[14:04] <jrib> !backtrace > _maney (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:04] <piotreek> erUSUL, i tried no luck
[14:04] <Slart> erUSUL: remember the default policies.. -f doesn't clear those
[14:04] <tinman> inx-one: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[14:05] <piotreek> something is overwriting rules
[14:05] <piotreek> i followed this howto
[14:05] <inx-one> tinman: OK - so google that with the extra keyword linux and or ubuntu
[14:05] <piotreek> http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/install.html#10
[14:05] <rx-DONNiE> need to do that in terminal?
[14:05] <ph8_> hey all, i have a creative sound system that comes with a remote, i assume that the play/pause buttons pass a signal back to the PC somehow - I imagine ubuntu doesn't recognise those signals by default - how can i see if they're being sent when i press buttons and/or get them recognised?
[14:05] <ppibburr> yes, with sudo
[14:05] <rx-DONNiE> im very new to ubuntu/linux
[14:05] <inx-one> tinman: I know nothing about your card ;)
[14:05] <jrib> _maney: before the backtrace, try 'abiword --verbose', that might give us some more information
[14:06] <ppibburr> sudo apt-get install gstreamer
[14:06] <piotreek> erUSUL, so i am looking for place where this rules come up from
[14:06] <gpellis64> archman: i will give it a try alpha 4
[14:06] <ting> Hi
[14:06] <ting> how is everyone _
[14:06] <Slart> piotreek: check the rc.d folders.. it should be in there somewhere.. might be in the if.up scripts too
[14:06] <_maney> jrib: just uninstalled it :-(
[14:06] <tinman> inx-one: lol, i left EVERYTHIGN to default, i'm gonna reboot :s
[14:06] <archman> gpellis64: upgrading from gutsy?
[14:06] <inx-one> tinman: good luck :)
[14:06] <Slart> piotreek: here's a small script that clears firewall rules for you.. http://pikt.org/pikt/samples/iptables_reset_programs.cfg.html
[14:07] <rx-DONNiE> ill check it out later, and if that doesnt work
[14:07] <rx-DONNiE> ill reinstall
[14:07] <rambo3> ph8_, my first guess would be lirc
[14:07] <gpellis64> archman: no new install
[14:07] <rx-DONNiE> hoping it will preserve my dualboot config
[14:07] <piotreek> Slart, the problem is i can on top of start script clear iptables rules
[14:07] <ph8_> is that a program rambo3 ?
[14:07] <piotreek> but something is clearing it again and sets own rules
[14:08] <piotreek> Slart, i will look in rc.d scripts mayby something left
[14:08] <rambo3> !info lirc | ph8_
[14:08] <ubotu> ph8_: lirc (source: lirc): Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 353 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[14:08] <piotreek> THX
[14:08] <inx-one> bah, pidgin makes a lousy irc client...
[14:08]  * inx-one installs xchat on the live CD
[14:08] <Slart> piotreek: mm.. hang on.. there are scripts that run when your network interface is started..
[14:08] <_maney> jrib: any preference for abiword vs abiword-gnome?  they both seem to crash the same :-/
[14:09] <piotreek> Slart, i now /etc/network/scripts?
[14:09] <ph8_> rambo3: ah well the sound system is wired in and responds in itself to things like mute, it's the signals it might be passing back to the PC (through the sound out plug?) that i'm wondering about
[14:09] <soussou> hi
[14:09] <Slart> piotreek: nope.. in /etc/network/if-up.d and /etc/network/if-pre-up.d
[14:09] <piotreek> Slart, i really dont undestand policy of Ubuntu not having iptables script in init.d
[14:10] <piotreek> Slart, hold on i will check it
[14:10] <soussou> I have some screenlets running, but whenever I shut down my system, they don't reload at startup, how do I make sure that screenlets start running at startup?
[14:10] <Slart> piotreek: I'm not really in a position to second-guess their decisions.. I'm sure they have some kind of reason for doing things the way they do
[14:10] <jrib> _maney: I don't use either so I can't suggest one, but -gnome probably looks nicer if you are using gnome
[14:10] <Slart> =)
[14:11] <piotreek> Alleluja ;-)
[14:11] <jrib> _maney: for debugging purposes, go with simple abiword
[14:11] <dgjones> soussou, when you select the screenlet, there's a tick box to run it at startup
[14:11] <piotreek> Slart, i think i found it
[14:11] <piotreek> Slart, Guardod script is in  /etc/network/if-up.d
[14:11] <ArthurArchnix> Can I create a hidden symlink? I want to move my ./exaile directory to my data partition, then just put a symlink back to its normal location under /home/arthur
[14:12] <piotreek> Slart, but i removed guardod ;-)
[14:12] <ting> hi, i would like to ask if anyone know how to sort the installed programs by size _
[14:12] <ting> ?
[14:12] <rambo3> ph8_, i'll have to go with bunny and a pancake on that. what did you say there?
[14:12] <Slart> piotreek: yea.. things get left behind.. it's annoying
[14:12] <dooglus> ArthurArchnix: yes
[14:12] <Slart> piotreek: did you do apt-get remove --purge ? or just apt-get remove?
[14:13] <ting> hi, i would like to ask if anyone know how to sort the installed programs in the Synaptic Packages Manager by size ?
[14:13] <piotreek> Slart, not just apt-get remove
[14:13] <soussou> dgjones: thanks, found it
[14:13] <tinman> inx-one, didint work
[14:13] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus: Sweet.
[14:13] <Slart> piotreek: try --purge next time.. =)
[14:13] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus: thakns.
[14:13] <Azures> does unbuntu support crossfire edition card from ati ?
[14:14] <erUSUL> ArthurArchnix: yes; you can
[14:14] <piotreek> Slart ok i newbie to Ubuntu i used Fedora and RH based system for years
[14:14] <piotreek> but i want to try something new :D
[14:14] <Slart> piotreek: ah.. first time on a apt-based system?
[14:14] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus beat you to it erUSUL, but thanks.
[14:14] <piotreek> Slart, basically yes
[14:14] <ArthurArchnix> erUSUL: Confirmation never hurt anybody. :)
[14:14] <ArthurArchnix> Well, maybe jesus christ.
[14:14] <erUSUL> ArthurArchnix: ;)
[14:15] <_maney> jrib: abiword --verbose 2 => Aborted (core dumped)  (the useless splash image shows up, then the full window just barely appears, then winks out)
[14:15] <piotreek> Slart, i also found strange rules source ;-) it is /etc/rc.firewall
[14:15] <piotreek> trash from guardog :)
[14:16] <Slart> piotreek: huh? must be.. I don't have that one
[14:16] <dooglus> ArthurArchnix: whether the application will be happy reading its configuration through a symlink depends on the application, but making a hidden symlink isn't a problem
[14:16] <_maney> jrib: and that about uses up my time for chasing after the cause of this for noew, I'm afraid.  too many other things clamoring at me :-(
[14:16] <jworkman01> I want to be able to access my network like a folder on my desktop. How would I do this? I was able to do it easily in windows, it seems a bit harder here. maybe I'm missing something
[14:16] <erUSUL> piotreek: dpkg -S /etc/rc.firewall  should told you which package installed it
[14:17] <Slart> jworkman01: you mean a shared folder on another computer?
[14:17] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus: Well, we'll see. I've setup the symlink, and exaile is playing. I just want to be able to share the settings and album covers and ratings among the various nixes I setup.
[14:17] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, try connect to server - gives you an icon
[14:17] <ArthurArchnix> dooglus: And I don't share home partitions.
[14:17] <fx|RabBit> jworkman01: do you want to connect to a windows or a linux network?
[14:17] <jworkman01> Slart: no actually it is an ftp server. I run a website for my sim racing team and am constantly having to update folders and such on the server. Thought I could do it on here as well
[14:17] <dooglus> ArthurArchnix: it should be ok.  I've had problems in the past doing what you mention, but I don't remember the details.  I think maybe it was with Azureus
[14:18] <spaghetti_knife> I was wondering if there was a good way to reinstall my apt-get.
[14:18] <Slart> jworkman01: as thoreauputic said.. in the Places menu.. connect to network..
[14:18] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, try connect to server as I suggested
[14:18] <spaghetti_knife> I change software sources and talk to my isp and everything, but nothing's working.
[14:18] <ArthurArchnix> I'll keep my eye on it. Cheers dooglus
[14:18] <Slart> spaghetti_knife: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apt
[14:18] <Slart> spaghetti_knife: of course.. you need a working apt to do that =)
[14:18] <jworkman01> Slart: LOL! sorry guys, you were right, I was making more of it than it really was. OMG!  Yes I did it, thank
[14:19] <jworkman01> thanks
[14:19] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, what is the problem with apt?
[14:19] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, no need - it's all new and different :)
[14:19] <Slart> jworkman01: nah.. you're far from idiot-status so far =)
[14:19] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: it doesn't install much of anything.
[14:19] <jworkman01> LOL!
[14:19] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, I mean no need to feel silly :)
[14:19] <piotreek> ok thanks guys ;-)
[14:20] <OleMoudi> hi!, I read 7.10 installer offers the option of encrypting partitions, I am currently in the "Prepare partitions" step of the installation and I don't see any option regarding that, do I have to enable something?
[14:20] <piotreek> i must gone now
[14:20] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I gotcha
[14:20] <piotreek> have a nice day!!
[14:20] <piotreek> bye
[14:20] <erUSUL> OleMoudi: i think that only the alternate installer has that option
[14:20] <Tu13es> doh, I upgraded network-manager to 0.7 but that pwnd my network devices.  I removed it thinking I could install the old version, but realized I can't install without a network connection!
[14:20] <spaghetti_knife> It's not even reinstalling itself.
[14:20] <spaghetti_knife> It can't download apt.
[14:20] <Slart> OleMoudi: I'm only guessing here.. but I think you have to use the alternate install if you want to do anything weird.. (encrypting boot partitions is considered weird in this context) =)
[14:20] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, if you want to see silliness, just hang around for three years like me - you will see pleenty of it ;p
[14:20] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife,  yeah but does it stop at 0 %, are ther broken, do you get error on apt-get
[14:21] <Bo^Dick> hi
[14:21] <OleMoudi> Slart how do I use alternate installer? is one of the other options when booting from the CD?
[14:21] <Slart> OleMoudi: it's a different cd altogether
[14:21] <erUSUL> !alternate | OleMoudi
[14:21] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Oh I'm sure! I know I have come in here and asked some questions that have probably made some people laugh
[14:21] <ubotu> OleMoudi: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:21] <Slart> OleMoudi: there is the live cd.. then there's the alternate cd..
[14:21] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: Reinstallation of apt is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[14:21] <CLC> / bye
[14:22] <OleMoudi> Slart I see, does that mean encryption support is still "unstable" and I should not rely heavily on it?
[14:22] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, there are no silly questions, just silly people who don't listen to answers :)
[14:22] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: That's right
[14:22] <Bo^Dick> i've got two ntfs partitions, on two physical drives, one has a windows installation and the other only some files. they are labelled /dev/sda1 and /dev/hdb1
[14:22] <instructor> hello everyone, I am teaching a class on irc. Can you say hi!??
[14:22] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, offcourse it will say that.
[14:22] <NailK> Hello. I want to use fglrx internal AGP support. How can I dectivate kernel agpgart support?
[14:22] <Slart> OleMoudi: nope.. the alternate install can do lots of things that the regular one can't.. install to raid, install and encrypt etc etc.. I guess they make the live cd as easy as possible for the unwashed masses =)
[14:22] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, well, actually... to be truthful, we do get some genuinely silly questions here as well :)
[14:23] <Bo^Dick> why does partimage crash when i attempt to make an image from the /dev/hdb1 only?
[14:23] <archman> hello school kickers
[14:23] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: so if that's not what i'm looking for, what am i looking for?
[14:23]  * Slart waves to instructor
[14:23] <boris__> hey
[14:23] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I'm new to linux and have had my share of confusion over the past few days but still, I have seen some questions that make me ask, WHAT?
[14:23] <boris__> i got a usb, and want to change its FileSystem. how do i do it ?
[14:23] <OleMoudi> Slart ok thanks a lot
[14:23] <boris__> change it to NTFS
[14:23] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, example "Help, my Ubuntu doesn't work! Help me?
[14:23] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[14:23] <Slart> boris__: try partition editor.. it does all kinds of neat stuff
[14:23] <Slart> !gparted | boris__
[14:23] <_Oz_> Good morning, #ubuntu friends.
[14:23] <ubotu> boris__: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[14:24] <archman> can ext3 partition on which is ubuntu installation be resized? Will resize mess anything?
[14:24] <Bo^Dick> has anyone here experience with partimage?
[14:24] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[14:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:24] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, if apt is not installing then reinstalation wont help couse program works, just that your configuration or some system config is not in order
[14:24] <archman> i know it haven't messed my ntfs...
[14:24] <Slart> jworkman01, thoreauputic: every now and then we get the "my ubuntu doesn't work and it's your fault.. I'll scream at you until you fix it" =)
[14:25] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: how do I put it in order?
[14:25] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: You should have seen me yesterday after upgrading to Hardy, OMG! i had one minor failure and reported the bug, right? anyway the questions that I have seen others ask about the exact same issue are so rediculous.
[14:25] <Isoplast> hey guys
[14:25] <jworkman01> Slart: Oh brother!
[14:25] <Isoplast> could someone give me some advice please?
[14:25] <thoreauputic> Slart, yes - that used to be called "Looking a gift horse in the mouth" I believe :)
[14:25] <Isoplast> i have no sound on my computer
[14:25] <Slart> archman: I think ext3 can be resized.. but as with all disk operations.. do backups.. I'm not kidding.. do backups
[14:25] <Bo^Dick> i'm trying to figure out why partimage crashes when i attempt to make an image of /dev/hdb1
[14:26] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, by explaning the problem , you have terminal output and logs for that
[14:26] <Slart> Isoplast: use sunscreen? =)
[14:26] <Bo^Dick> what happens is that partimage stalls at 0% progress
[14:26] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: i'll pastebin.
[14:26] <CreativeEmbassy> I did a complete removal of every mysql-server and client package, complete reinstall of everything, and I can't get mysql to start
[14:26] <Isoplast> i dont know what sunscreen is, sorry ^^ but im using ubuntu
[14:26] <CreativeEmbassy> are there mysql logs here somewhere?
[14:26] <Slart> Isoplast: no sound at all?
[14:26] <Slart> Isoplast: what kind of computer?
[14:26] <jworkman01> archman: You can definitely do a resize if you need to, but as stated earlier do a backup
[14:26] <Isoplast> normal desktop-pc
[14:27] <Bo^Dick> partimage would be so incredibly convenient if it worked well
[14:27] <archman> ok
[14:27] <Slart> Isoplast: run this in a terminal for me.. "sudo cat /proc/asound/cards"
[14:27] <Slart> Isoplast: tell me if it prints out anything at all..
[14:27] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m71d27877
[14:27] <CCyntrox> Hey, anyone have any idea why my script is not working...? I've added :~/scripts to the path, when I try to run it, it says permission denied - when I try to run it with sudo, it says command not found!
[14:27] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: it's pretty nondescript for me.
[14:28] <thoreauputic> CCyntrox, did you do a chmod +x on the script?
[14:28] <Slart> CCyntrox: what is the permissions on the script? did you chmod it?
[14:28] <Isoplast> Slart: yes it prints out:0 [CMI8738MC6     ]: CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6
[14:28] <Isoplast>                       C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6 (model 55) at 0xbc00, irq 17
[14:28] <Isoplast>  1 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[14:28] <Isoplast>                       HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 18
[14:28] <Blinkiz> I get tons of these error messages: "perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:" http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57704/ .I have tried locale-gen and all that stuff. Nothing. Please help me get rid of ths?
[14:28] <Slart> Isoplast: don't paste stuff into the channel if it's more than one line
[14:28] <archman> jworkman01: already backed-up with remastersys. great tool...
[14:28] <CCyntrox> thoreauputic, Slart, no, doesn't it get set to execute permission by default?
[14:28] <Isoplast> oh sorry
[14:28] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, did you try sudo apt-get -f install
[14:28] <Slart> CCyntrox: nope
[14:28] <thoreauputic> CCyntrox, no :)
[14:29] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Here's one for you, Where can I get a web design software that resembles dreamweaver for linux?
[14:29] <CCyntrox> ah, that explains it =P Thanks, Slart and thoreauputic!
[14:29] <thoreauputic> CCyntrox, think about it - security?
[14:29] <jworkman01> archman: Good deal, you should be fine then
[14:29] <Bo^Dick> maybe i should try something more established than partimage
[14:29] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m9ab3142
[14:29] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. so alsa (the sound system in ubuntu) has found 2 soundcards.. both look like on board sound to me..HDA can be tricky to get to work
[14:29] <erat123> i just mounted a samba share.. i understand there's a auto connect feature, in case the share goes offline for a while.  does anyone know what this is called?
[14:29] <CCyntrox> now it works =)
[14:30] <Isoplast> i think its c-media
[14:30] <Isoplast> its a seperate soundcard
[14:30] <webb0rn> jwok - try scream - not sure if there is a WYSISYG for linux thats any good
[14:30] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, don't know dreamweaver - I have never used it. Try Bluefish or get iceape/seamonkey - it has a "composer" for wysiwyg html
[14:30] <Slart> Isoplast: ah.. so you've got an internal sound card (pci) and one built-in on the motherboard, right?
[14:30] <Isoplast> i think so ^^
[14:30] <boris__> so how do i make my USB NTFS ?
[14:30] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, there is a KDE version but I forget the name
[14:31] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I guess we're just going to have to kick Adobe's rear into gear and get them on the ball with a dreamweaver version for linux
[14:31] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. we'll try with the cmedia card... you're running regular ubuntu 32-bit, gutsy, right?
[14:31] <leon_> can somebody help, i cant login as root
[14:31] <thoreauputic> jworkman01,  bluefish is not wysiwyg, but it's nice :)
[14:31] <leon_> sudo su command not work :s
[14:31] <Isoplast> jep
[14:31] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, that looks ok. try installing some game. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install epiphany
[14:32] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, the "composer" used to be in the mozilla suite
[14:32] <archman> _leon_: try sudo -s
[14:32] <Slart> _leon_: don't log in as root.. if you really really have to, use sudo -i
[14:32] <Slart> !root | _leon_
[14:32] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, personally I just use an editor like emacs, jed or whatever...
[14:32] <ubotu> _leon_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:32] <boris__> !gparted
[14:32] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[14:32] <archman> Slart: what's the difference between those sudos?
[14:32] <_leon_> Slart, i need to active one driver
[14:33] <_leon_> i need to login
[14:33] <_leon_> but it cant
[14:33] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Yeah, I used to be able to do these sites without wysiwyg but I'm forgetful. LOL!
[14:33] <boris__> how do i make my USB's FileSystem NTFS  with gparted ?
[14:33] <Slart> archman: sudo -i is interactive afaik.. gives you a su shell
[14:33] <Slart> _leon_: use sudo. that's what it's for
[14:33] <_leon_> it cant
[14:33] <Slart> _leon_: what are you trying to do? modprobe?
[14:33] <archman> _leon_: sudo -s ?
[14:33] <Isoplast> hmmm
[14:34] <Slart> Isoplast: I'm googling for your soundcard..  be right there
[14:34] <Isoplast> maybe i should tell you, that it used to work usually
[14:34] <boris__> i got to create a new disklabel to make my USB Disk's FS NTFS ?
[14:34] <Bo^Dick> i've updated my system with sudo apt-get update and upgrade but yet my version of partimage is 0.6.4 rather than the latest 0.6.7, why?
[14:34] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: so far, it's been ignoring motherf&cking everything.
[14:34] <Slart> spaghetti_knife: easy with the language..
[14:35] <dupotter> !list
[14:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:35] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: for some reason when I did apt-get for bluefish, it installed the program but I also received a list of unknown media type in *.* various areas, all cd/dvd related
[14:35] <boris__> is it possible that a windoze comp cant read vfat ?
[14:35] <spaghetti_knife> Slart: I can't even substitute characters?
[14:35] <_leon_> anybody have the same problem with login on root ?
[14:35] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, did you delete or truncate /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[14:36] <fx|RabBit> can anybody pls tell me what a raid stride is (i know what raid is)?
[14:36] <Bo^Dick> i've got a question regarding up to date issues with ubuntu software
[14:36] <Bo^Dick> i've updated my system with sudo apt-get update and upgrade but yet my version of partimage is 0.6.4 rather than the latest 0.6.7, why??
[14:36] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I've modified it, probably haphazardly. Where can I copypaste a new version?
[14:36] <Tu13es> hm, now my wifi card doesn't show up regardless of what version network-manager is running
[14:37] <Tu13es> is there an easy way to get it working again?
[14:37] <rambo3> !source-o-matic | spaghetti_knife
[14:37] <ubotu> spaghetti_knife: source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages.
[14:37] <brobostigon> Bo^Dick: apt-get upgrade can only update oyou to the version in the repos, that one may not be the newest version.
[14:37] <rambo3> whatever ubotu
[14:37] <Tu13es> it says the restricted driver is in use
[14:37] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, for wysiwyg, have a look at kompozer
[14:37] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, start synaptic and configure sources.
[14:37] <neoalex> hi, how can I get a touch screen working in ubuntu
[14:38] <nanothief> Hi, I'm having a problem with installing with synaptic, when installing ghc, I get the error W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/linux-libc-dev_2.6.22-14.47_i386.deb
[14:38] <Bo^Dick> brobostigon: ok, how would you recommend me to sort it out?
[14:38] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. it seems that your soundcard should work in ubuntu.. it used to work before?
[14:38] <Tu13es> neoalex: look for wacom-tools or something lik that
[14:38] <Tu13es> neoalex: it's what I used for my tablet pc
[14:38] <Slart> Isoplast: have you tried all the settings in the volume manager?
[14:38] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Got it thanks!  LOL!
[14:38] <gandalfcome> Can anyone recommend a good sip provider? Or any other programm that can call to landlines and is not skype (no P2P)?
[14:38] <Slart> _leon_: what driver are you trying to install?
[14:38] <Isoplast> jep
[14:38] <Tu13es> gandalfcome: Gizmo Project?
[14:39] <Isoplast> and i've just started the audio manager
[14:39] <Slart> _leon_: are you following some kind of howto?
[14:39] <brobostigon> Bo^Dick: the version from the repos is fully tested, so stick with the verions of softwrae in the repos.
[14:39] <gandalfcome> Tu13es: and thats not p2p?
[14:39] <AWysis> Hi. any good wireless detection program besides knetworkmanager or kwifimanager ?
[14:39] <Isoplast> it shows me that autodetection is on
[14:39] <fx|RabBit> gandalfcome: mabe teamspeak but you need a server for that
[14:39] <jworkman01> !gizmo project
[14:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo project - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:39] <bastl> how can one add a custom location to the menu?
[14:39] <Bo^Dick> brobostigon: the problem is that i can't get that version to work well
[14:39] <julio_pe> anybody hire know a patch to see preview of images on firefox? http://doktorseven.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/firefox-preview-images/
[14:39] <Bo^Dick> brobostigon: it simply crashes
[14:39] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, I used to practically live here - but the constant questions assuming that I knew the answer made me a bit jaded :) I've had a bit of a break...
[14:39] <gandalfcome> Tu13es: my university doesn't like p2p because its easily confused with illegal downloading
[14:40] <julio_pe> this link is brooked
 I have a question about how swapping works; is there a way to turn off swapping for a specific device?  (speaking specifically of mounted encrypted volumes)
[14:40] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. try running this "dmesg | grep -i error"  and "dmesg | grep -i fail".. see if you get anything that mentions sound, alsa, cmedia or similar
[14:40] <Tu13es> gandalfcome: I can't remember of Gizmo is P2P
[14:40] <brobostigon> Bo^Dick: yu could manually install the newest one, but no stricltly recommended or tested to work properly.
[14:40] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Who know's maybe i'll catch on to the inner workings of linux and be able to help out someday! LOL! not in the near future though!
[14:40] <edthefox> hey, i just installed clamav and the clamtk virus scanner, now... How do update the antivirus definitions??
[14:40] <Slart> Isoplast: audio manager?
[14:40] <Bo^Dick> brobostigon: ok, thanks
[14:41] <eni191> hi, how can i stop wineserver? (My CPU is always at 100% after ies4linux) i tried sudo kill <pid>, ik tried sudo killall wineserver, but this doesn't work.
[14:41] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, it kind of creeps up on you - then suddenly everyone assumes you are a guru even if you are not ;p
[14:41] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: LMAO!
[14:42] <fx|RabBit> hehehe
[14:42] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, all it takes is answering enough questions, and everyone assumes you know everything *grin*
[14:42] <papito_> guys im not able to make the mic work :S
[14:42] <Isoplast> hmmm
[14:42] <Isoplast> not it shows nothing
[14:42] <jworkman01> papito: I have the same issue, I have sound but no mic, can't figure that one out either
[14:42] <Isoplast> something with security module
[14:42] <Isoplast> but nothing with audio
[14:43] <papito_> jworkman01, uugh :(
[14:43] <Slart> Isoplast: hmm.. what is the audio manager you mentioned?
[14:43] <julio_pe> anybody hire know a program to preview imagens in firefox?
[14:43] <Isoplast> i've searched for "audio" in the Deskbar Applet
[14:43] <Slart> eni191: sudo pkill -9 wine .. or wineserver -k
[14:43] <Isoplast> and it sais: "start audio"
[14:44] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I've configured my software sources, searched for the best server, and changed servers.
[14:44] <spaghetti_knife> It's still dling at 10 kB/s.
[14:44] <lukasz> I would like to know what is the 12 hr time format?
[14:44] <legend2440> _maney did you reinstall abiword?
[14:44] <Slart> deskbar applet? .. ah the search thingy?
[14:45] <julio_pe> guys..
[14:45] <Isoplast> jep
[14:45] <lukasz> I made the workaround :)
[14:45] <eni191> thank you! Works
[14:45] <lukasz> Hopefully there will be a better one soon :)
[14:45] <brobostigon> lukasz: wikipedia and or google will tell you hwat the 12hr time format is.
[14:45] <[CroX]> I can't seem to be able to get any resolution above 800x600, despite having 1280x800 as the only listed resolution in xorg.conf. Anyone care to help sort this out?
[14:45] <julio_pe> is there a mod to preview imagens on firefox? When we need send a photo for example, it only list tha names
[14:46] <lukasz> thnx brobostigon
[14:46] <foobar_> hihi, I wonder if there is a matrix terminal screensaver
[14:46] <revilodraw> is there any way to make the yext 'applications   places    system' in the top utility bar white instead of black?
[14:46] <Frijolie> does anyone know how to fix when none of your windows have the maximize, minimize, and close buttons or any window borders?
[14:46] <Juhaz> [CroX], read /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see why it's discarding other modes.
[14:46] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: CroX nvidia or ati?
[14:46] <revilodraw> frijolie: have you restarted x?
[14:46] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: at least I can probably reinstall apt. and it's going better than before.
[14:46] <Isoplast> CroX??? ... whats that?
[14:47] <fx|RabBit> oops sry hehe
[14:47] <Frijolie> revilodraw: this is a fresh install and it does it everytime I boot
[14:47] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, don't do that
[14:47] <Slart> Isoplast: ok, run this in a terminal.. aplay /dev/urandom .. you might want to lower the volume first..
[14:47] <spaghetti_knife> what do I do, then, rambo3? I want it to run faster than 10 kB/s.
[14:47] <revilodraw> frijolie:hmmm try another theme
[14:47] <celoserpa> Does anyone around own a dv6000 series HP laptop or any HP laptop that has the QuickPlay "feature"?
[14:47] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: have you tried the settings in gnome-volume-control ?
[14:47] <spaghetti_knife> And thank you for your help.
[14:47] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, install first aptitude
[14:47] <spaghetti_knife> Thank you a lot.
[14:48] <spaghetti_knife> ?
[14:48] <Frijolie> revilodraw: just tried that, didn't fix it
[14:48] <[CroX]> Juhaz: The log doesn't say anything about rejecting anything, it seems to load alright.
[14:48] <Slart> Isoplast: it should play regular noise... like tv-static
[14:48] <spaghetti_knife> apt-get install first-aptitude?
[14:48] <Isoplast> dont hear anything
[14:48] <revilodraw> Frijolie: dont know then
[14:48] <fx|RabBit> (03:47:54 PM) fx|RabBit: Isoplast: have you tried the settings in gnome-volume-control ?
[14:48] <Isoplast> jep
[14:48] <Slart> Isoplast: ok.. can you pastebin the output from "aplay /dev/urandom -L"
[14:48] <Slart> !paste | Isoplast
[14:48] <ubotu> Isoplast: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lines texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:49] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, maybe its already installed try : sudo aptitude update
[14:49] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: also went to file/change device in there?
[14:49] <Frijolie> revilodraw: something to do with metacity?
[14:49] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: Once it's done dling software source info.
[14:49] <[CroX]> fx|RabBit: Neither as far as i can tell. It's a Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo Mobile V5515
[14:50] <Frijolie> revilodraw: right now the window is stuck up in the top left corner of my screen without any window borders and 3/4ths the menus dont display anything..
[14:50] <soussou> [08:41] [Notice] -sweet_Man- sir 9alab 3la chi zab 9ad tramtak ;)
[14:50] <lukasz> brb
[14:50] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, other downloads from internet works fine?
[14:50] <archman> Frijolie: i had that problem. Mine was that graphic drivers werent appropriate
[14:51] <Isoplast> yes
[14:51] <fx|RabBit> CroX: if linux does not recognize the capabilities of your monitor you need to manually set a value for hsync and vrefresh in xorg.conf
[14:51] <Isoplast> everything
[14:51] <archman> Frijolie: try reinstalling drivers and then compiz-fusion...
[14:51] <Bo^Dick> when i start partimage with "sudo partimage", how can i figure out its process id?
[14:51] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: how many devices do you get listed if go to file/change device?
[14:51] <Slart> Isoplast: yes, please
[14:51] <Isoplast> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57706/
[14:51] <lukasz> The problem I am having now is whenever I go to System/Administration and put it in 12 hr I still get the 24 hr clock :(
[14:52] <Slart> Isoplast: thanks.. looking
[14:52] <Isoplast> 3
[14:52] <lukasz> Its on the login Window
[14:52] <lukasz> hmm
[14:52] <fx|RabBit> Slart:  here we go
[14:53] <lukasz> I keep wondering how to fix that
[14:53] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast please write the names of who you are talking to infront of your answers;)
[14:53] <Isoplast> ah
[14:53] <Isoplast> got it
[14:53] <Isoplast> thanks guys
[14:53] <Isoplast> the problam was simple
[14:53] <Isoplast> in windows
[14:53] <fx|RabBit> what was it?
[14:53] <FloodBot2> Isoplast: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:53] <Isoplast> i have two sound cards
[14:53] <revilodraw> anyway to make the text in the panel white?
[14:54] <Isoplast> in windows only one of them works
[14:54] <rambo3> !enter | Isoplast
[14:54] <ubotu> Isoplast: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:54] <Slart> Isoplast: you fixed it? what was it?
[14:54] <Isoplast> i just had to change the plug into the other soundcard
[14:54] <fx|RabBit> (03:53:55 PM) Isoplast: i have two sound cards
[14:54] <Slart> Isoplast: oh my.. =).. well.. congrats =)
[14:54] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: although that second souncard should still work
[14:55] <Isoplast> :D
[14:55] <Isoplast> yeah maybe
[14:55] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, to direct your answer to the right nick, use tab completion on the nickname
[14:55] <Trae> anyone know of something like "Front Page" for Linux?
[14:55] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: in that case you would have to change your outputdevice in system/preferences/sound
[14:55] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, otherwise your answers get lost in the flow
[14:55] <fx|RabBit> agree @ thoreauputic
[14:55] <Isoplast> fx|RabBit: but as long as i can hear something i think i dont need the other soundcard ^^
[14:56] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: as you believe:)
[14:56] <thoreauputic> Isoplast,  for example thore <tab> etc  :)
[14:56] <Slart> !default
[14:56] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[14:56] <kilrae> i am having difficulty with WPA on my laptop
[14:56] <Isoplast> thanks anywas to you guys!
[14:56] <Slart> Isoplast: you're welcome
[14:56] <avaloncio> Can anyone help me? When i make right-clic on the upper panel bar, it only shows me two options, Help and About Panels. How can I get whole menu?
[14:56] <fx|RabBit> Isoplast: no problem:)
 like that?
[14:57] <_leon_> i cant login as root, comand sudo su
[14:57] <_leon_> not work
[14:57] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, first few letters, then hit ab
[14:57] <_leon_> can somebody help?
[14:57] <thoreauputic> *tab
[14:57] <Isoplast> thoreauputic:  a ... geniously!
[14:57] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: Did you install the gnome's lockdown thingy?
[14:57] <thoreauputic> Isoplast,  :)
[14:57] <fx|RabBit> hehe Isoplast  type the first few letters of a name like for example fx then press the tab key
[14:57] <fx|RabBit> ->autocompletion
[14:57] <thoreauputic> fx|RabBit, he got it :)
[14:57] <avaloncio> Odd-rationale, I dont know what are you talking about
[14:58] <_maney> legend2440: did.  trace shows it blowing up in something to do with fonts, so I'm going to try restarting X on the chance that something didn't get updated on the fly... as soon as I have time
[14:58] <Odd-rationale> !tab | :)
[14:58] <ubotu> :): You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:58] <Isoplast> thoreauputic:  and can i highlight the things that get written to me too?
[14:58] <webb0rn> anyone have any experience installing and using IRCD-IRC2 on an ubuntu server?
[14:58] <webb0rn> im not having much success
[14:58] <kilrae> running 7.10, it finds the router, detects WPA, asks me for a key, then asks me for a key, then asks... etc
[14:58] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, what client are you using?
[14:58] <fx|RabBit> thoreauputic: didnt see it, wass two finger typing hjehe
 http://brentroos.com/2006/07/07/change-gnome-panel-text-color/
[14:58] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: ok. umm. what it you right-click the menu bar? what do you get?
[14:58] <fx|RabBit> _leon_: what error do you get when you use sudo?
[14:59] <Bo^Dick> was this a good idea? sudo wget -c http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6212&package_id=6269
[14:59] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, try xchat if you aren't using it - pretty easy and better than pidgin for IRC, for example
[14:59] <avaloncio> i get a menu with the last two options, Help and About, notthing else
[14:59] <fx|RabBit> thoreauputic: naaw hehe
[14:59] <Isoplast> thoreauputic: im using pidgin
[14:59] <avaloncio> I am on 7.10
[14:59] <thoreauputic> Isoplast,  install xchat
[14:59] <lukasz> Anyone know how to change the time to 12 hr
[15:00] <lukasz> In GDM
[15:00] <chafka> i have installed broadcom 4311 firmware from ubuntu 7.10 and its working i found some network but i cant connect ?? any help??
[15:00] <thoreauputic> Isoplast, much better for IRC - look in add/remove applications
[15:00] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: did you ever have it before?
[15:00] <[CroX]> How can I get a higher resolution than 800x600. Nothing I do seem to increase this limit.
[15:00] <Frogzoo> lukasz: right click clock - > prefs
[15:01] <_leon_> fx|RabBit , are you look screanshot
[15:01] <avaloncio> the whole menu? yes. One day I lookd and there only were two options
[15:01] <Bo^Dick> it was from this site i was inspired to use that command, http://www.partimage.org/Download
[15:01] <Frogzoo> CroX: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[15:01] <fx|RabBit> _leon_: as far as i can see exactly nothing happens??
[15:01] <[CroX]> Frogzoo: Running. I tried vesa before, I'll try vga now.
[15:01] <fx|RabBit> Crox i gave you an answer on that further up
[15:02] <Bo^Dick> i need help please
[15:02] <thoreauputic> !ask
[15:02] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:02] <[CroX]> fx|RabBit: That i must set the hsync manually?
[15:02] <lukasz> I have utc disabled
[15:02] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: Try going to System --> Administration menu. Do you have any program with the something like the name "lockdown" (I forgot the exact name :( )
[15:02] <lukasz> It just login time to 12 hr
[15:02] <fx|RabBit> CroX: (03:51:00 PM) fx|RabBit: CroX: if linux does not recognize the capabilities of your monitor you need to manually set a value for hsync and vrefresh in xorg.conf
[15:02] <TruQuiNy> Hello everyone :)
[15:03] <Frogzoo> CroX: use the driver that matches your card, not vesa/vga
[15:03] <lukasz> I tried SystemAdministration/Login window
[15:03] <Bo^Dick> how am i supposed to deal with this install? http://www.partimage.org/Download
[15:03] <thoreauputic> !hello | TruQuiNy
[15:03] <ubotu> TruQuiNy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:03] <[CroX]> Frogzoo: I can't find no information about what card I have. Only generic mumbo-jumbo.
[15:03] <[CroX]> Frogzoo:  SiS Mirage 3+ Graphics, 64-256 MB shared memory
[15:04] <fx|RabBit> whch wont provide a user interface like nevidia...
[15:04] <legend2440> _maney can you check in your home dir for AbiwordSuite directory and inside should be preferences file
[15:04] <Frogzoo> [CroX]: well see if there's a driver to match
[15:04] <Bo^Dick> i'm just trying to figure out if this line (contructed by me) was good or not, sudo wget -c http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6212&package_id=6269
[15:04] <Bo^Dick> all derived from http://www.partimage.org/Download
[15:04] <lukasz> Frogzoo, the time on Login Window Id like is to 12 hr
[15:04] <effi> thoreauputic,  hey
[15:04] <thoreauputic> Bo^Dick, try quoting the URL
[15:05] <Bo^Dick> ok
[15:05] <effi> thoreauputic, now i have x.chat
[15:05] <Odd-rationale> Bo^Dick: do you need sudo?
[15:05] <legend2440> _maney if you check toward bottom of file should say posx= and posy=
[15:05] <thoreauputic> effi, and does it highlight your m=nick now ?
[15:05] <legend2440> _maney what are the numbers in there?
[15:05] <thoreauputic> *nick
[15:05] <effi> thoreauputic,  is there any alternative from pidgin for icq?
[15:05] <Bo^Dick> Odd-rationale: don't know for sure
[15:06] <Bo^Dick> i just can't see that i really got version 0.6.7
[15:06] <thoreauputic> effi, pidgin does icq just fine - don't you like it for that?
[15:06] <effi> thoreauputic,  but maybe there is a better choice :D
[15:07] <effi> thoreauputic,  something that makes it just better, or looks better ;)
[15:07] <Bo^Dick> sorry for bothering you but i'm all confused now
[15:07] <avaloncio> Odd-rationale, there no look to be what you say
[15:07] <thoreauputic> effi, try a search on icq in add/remove applications and see what pops up then :)
[15:07] <lukasz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4421813#post4421813
[15:07] <Bo^Dick> when i start partimage it's still 0.6.4
[15:07] <fx|RabBit> effi: bitchx
[15:07] <fx|RabBit> hehe
[15:07] <Bo^Dick> and i got no error message when i installed 0.6.7
[15:08] <thoreauputic> fx|RabBit, aaargh!
[15:08] <Odd-rationale> avaloncio: hmm. ok don't know then. sorry :(
[15:08] <_FReeZ> Hi, tell me something funny about GNU/Linux please
[15:08] <fx|RabBit> hehehe
[15:08] <_leon_> fx|RabBit , are you look screanshot
[15:08] <[CroX]> Frogzoo: Alright, I found a "sis" option when reconfiguring xserver-xorg but even though I choose that and 1280x800 I still get 800x600 as maximum.
[15:08] <effi> fx|RabBit, is that a good tool?
[15:08] <avaloncio> thanks
[15:08] <ting> hi everybody, i would like to ask if anyone know how to sort the installed programs in the Synaptic Packages Manager by size ?
[15:08] <fx|RabBit> _leon_:  yes i have but i cant help you on that as i can only see exactly nothing happening... sry
[15:08] <thoreauputic> effi, don't get bitchx - you won't enjoy it :)
[15:09] <effi> thoreauputic, why? :D
[15:09] <fx|RabBit> effi: it is a no gui client, mabe try xchat
[15:09] <_FReeZ> fx|RabBit, rofl
[15:09] <thoreauputic> effi, unless you like the command line that is :)
[15:09] <mohamed> hi guys anybody there to find me a solution to fix my external usb hard disk
[15:09] <thoreauputic> fx|RabBit, effi is on xchat for IRC now :)
[15:09] <mavi-> dont get bitchx anyway as irssi is sooo much better for commandline
[15:09] <_FReeZ> BitchX is pretty awesome, execute it from shell, don't stay with *buntu $hit, stop being a lamer
[15:09] <fx|RabBit> ah! rofl well hes well off then
[15:10] <_maney> legend2440: both are "0"
[15:10] <thoreauputic> mavi-, +1 but I don't thin effi is reqady for irssi
[15:10] <xGeek> irssi is the way to go. BitchX is out dated.
[15:10] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: leave the channel please XD
[15:10] <_FReeZ> lol
[15:10] <Bo^Dick> question, i followed the instructions here http://www.partimage.org/Download and now i wonder if i'm supposed to do something extra to really obtain 0.6.7 when starting the program
[15:10] <_maney> legend2440: both are "0"
[15:10] <_FReeZ> do you know what's my native GNU/Linux distribution, fx|RabBit ? =)
[15:10] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, angry ops are watching you :)
[15:10] <effi> thoreauputic,  is kopete good?
[15:11] <legend2440> _maney should be posx='34' and posy='143' and flags='2'
[15:11] <_FReeZ> thoreauputic, thank you for a hint
[15:11] <thoreauputic> effi, yes, it's good - although I never use it really
[15:11] <lukasz> well i wait in forums for a while heh
[15:11] <lukasz> :)
[15:12] <sipior> Bo^Dick: what does "which partimage" say?
[15:12] <legend2440> _maney maybe thats why its just opening for a second
[15:12] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: surprise me?
[15:12] <_maney> legend2440: just edited the prefs - no change
[15:12] <Bo^Dick> sipior: it still says it's 0.6.4
[15:12] <thoreauputic> effi, you can try all kinds of stuff - uninstall them if you don't like them :)
[15:12] <mohamed> anybody there
[15:12] <sipior> Bo^Dick: which path does it give?
[15:12] <legend2440> _maney ok well good luck
[15:12] <_FReeZ> effi, one should see the how it looks, http://www.lynucs.org/?bitchx
[15:12] <Frogzoo> [CroX]: probly cos you're actually running the vga driver - /var/log/Xorg.0.log will say
[15:12] <mohamed> i want to fix my external hard disk usb one
[15:12] <Elko> I need a simple irc server (not unrealircd), any suggestions?
[15:12] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I'll be back shortly, I have to reboot
[15:13] <_maney> legend2440: deleted the .AbiSuite directory - no change
[15:13] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, reboot? heresy!
[15:13] <sipior> Bo^Dick: and is that the path you installed 0.6.7 into?
[15:13] <Frogzoo> Elko: apt-cache search ircd
[15:13] <Bo^Dick> sipior: how to i display that?
[15:13] <sipior> Bo^Dick: like i said: which partimage
[15:13] <_FReeZ> fx|RabBit, well, forget about it. Angry ops are spying me and the name of my distribution is unpolite to say here I guess
[15:13] <l815> hey all
[15:14] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: i guess you can dare but you should do it NOW unless we wanna get chased for spamming offtopic:P
[15:14] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, that wasn't what the angry op was worried about :)
[15:14] <_maney> legend2440: interesting, the new profile it created has all three of those zero
[15:14] <Bo^Dick> sipior: the command wget did it all, i didn't do anything
[15:14] <[CroX]> Frogzoo: Yeah, the logs says it's using some failsafe conf.
[15:14] <CreativeEmbassy> do you know why mysql won't start?
[15:14] <l815> is there a programming channel for linux?
[15:14] <_FReeZ> thoreauputic, oh, really? What was it, then?
[15:14] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I was gone for a while, and I returned to find that my xchat was flashing. What did you say?
[15:14] <sipior> Bo^Dick: how about typing "which partimage" into a terminal and seeing what it says?
[15:14] <legend2440> _maney i'm stumped. very strange
[15:14] <Bo^Dick> sipior: ah, sorry
[15:14] <brobostigon> _FReeZ: your bad languadge
[15:14] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you...
[15:14] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, other downloads from internet works fine?
[15:15] <l815> do the conversion functions in c++ work in linux that work in windows?
[15:15] <CreativeEmbassy>  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[15:15] <CreativeEmbassy>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                   [fail]
[15:15] <fx|RabBit> thoreauputic: hahahaha
[15:15] <soundray> thoreauputic: ...and you're shy of the paperwork
[15:15] <_FReeZ> brobostigon thoreauputic thx guys, but what could be wrong with my language?
[15:15] <Bo^Dick> sipior: usr/sbin/partimage
[15:15] <thoreauputic> soundray, exactly :)
[15:15] <Slart> l815: afaik c++ is a standard.. as long as you stay away from the win32 api it should be the same
[15:15] <brobostigon> _FReeZ: using bad words
[15:16] <sipior> Bo^Dick: and you installed the later version (0.6.7) of partimage by doing what?
[15:16] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: I am returned! LOL!
[15:16] <l815> Slart, so things like atio() would work?
[15:16] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: they work excellently.
[15:16] <l815> *atoi()
[15:16] <_FReeZ> brobostigon, hmmf, what are the good words? =)
[15:16] <spaghetti_knife> Now it's, like, 1 B/s.
[15:16] <Bo^Dick> sipior: by following the instructions here, http://www.partimage.org/Download
[15:16] <Slart> l815: I would say yes
[15:16] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3:
[15:16] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: It's really slow.
[15:16] <l815> Slart, thanks
[15:16] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, it was a while ago - forget it... well, no, remember it and watch your step :)
[15:16] <_FReeZ> Who decides whether a word is good or bad?
[15:16] <Dagon> What is the easiest way t0 fix grub error 22?
[15:16] <l815> any recommendations for a compiler alternative to Dev c++ or VC++?
[15:16] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: he who has admin rights hehe
[15:16] <thoreauputic> _FReeZ, now you are just trolling
[15:16] <arturh> gcc
[15:16] <l815> i'm using geany and it's pretty good, but wanna scope the alternatives
[15:17] <soundray> _FReeZ: ask in #ubuntu-ops please
[15:17] <spaghetti_knife> _FReeZ: The christian conspiracy.
[15:17] <fx|RabBit> hahah
[15:17] <fx|RabBit> n1
[15:17] <sipior> Bo^Dick: those aren't really instructions for building it, just grabbing the source code via wget
[15:17] <Slart> l815: try anjuta... or a plain text editor.. emacs or vi if you like torturing yourself.. =)
[15:17] <_FReeZ> ok, #$@#@$# chrisitians // is that better?
[15:17] <Bo^Dick> sipior: and my brain thought it suggested this line sudo wget -c http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6212&package_id=6269
[15:17] <Slart> !programming
[15:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about programming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:17] <Slart> !editors
[15:17] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[15:17] <l815> Slart haha okay I'll check them out
[15:17] <thoreauputic> !coc | _FReeZ
[15:17] <ubotu> _FReeZ: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[15:17] <Slart> !code
[15:17] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[15:17] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: please avoide saying insulting things about religions in this channel, or you will be removed.
[15:17] <_maney> legend2440: well, if I don't get interrupted I'm going to restart the desktop... be back soon
[15:18] <tritium> avoid*
[15:18] <Bo^Dick> sipior: are you really sure about that?
[15:18] <fx|RabBit> ok here i got one: i have a raid 5 with 4X 500 gig that should result in 1,46 tb effective disk space but i only get 1,36 why is that??
[15:18] <sipior> Bo^Dick: yeah, you'll need to extract the files from the tarball by running "tar jxvf <filename>.bz2"
[15:18] <legend2440> _maney ok good luck
[15:18] <Bo^Dick> sipior: cite: "You should download partimage with wget. That's a very simple and reliable download tool. Just type "wget -c address" in a console. If there is a problem with the download, just run the same command again with option -c, and it will continue."
[15:18] <thoreauputic> !offtopic
[15:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:18] <jleza> #alegra
[15:18] <effi> thoreauputic, do you know any good games for ubuntu?
[15:19] <jworkman01> All the hatred in here today, not even safe on the internet anymore. What next, world war? LOL!
[15:19] <erUSUL> fx|RabBit: 5% reserved for root on ext3 ??
[15:19] <sipior> Bo^Dick: you didn't literally type "wget -c address" in a console, though, right?
[15:19] <thoreauputic> effi,  frozen bubble  :)
[15:19] <Bo^Dick> sipior: nope
[15:19] <thoreauputic> effi, I'm not a gamer by the way :)
[15:19] <spaghetti_knife> jworkman01: who's hating?
[15:19] <soundray> fx|RabBit: because advertised drive capacity is "raw", meaning that some of it is lost. Also note the difference between binary and  decimal multipliers
[15:19] <sipior> Bo^Dick: so you have a file named blah.tar.bz2, right?
[15:20] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i interpreted "adress" to be the link to the partimage-0.6.7.tar.bz2 file
[15:20] <jworkman01> spaghetti_knife: I was just making a not so funny joke. LOL! with freeze up there ranting the way he was
[15:20] <legend2440> ting: did you get answer about how to sort installed programs by size?
[15:20] <fx|RabBit> erUSUL: i thougth so too that is why i did sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/md0
[15:20] <sipior> Bo^Dick: yep
[15:20] <effi> thoreauputic, just because i thought you know a lot about ubuntu ^^ and most of the normal games are not supported
[15:20] <fx|RabBit> soundray: that is why it is 1,46 not 1,5
[15:20] <Slart> fx|RabBit: are the drives really 500GB ? not 500000 MB?
[15:20] <spaghetti_knife> tritium: Was what I was saying really insulting?
[15:20] <sipior> Bo^Dick: so that is just an archive of the software, which you'll need to extract and compile
[15:20] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: you know what you said
[15:20] <effi> thoreauputic, is there any homepage where they show the games?
[15:20] <Bo^Dick> sipior: then i misunderstood the instructions fatally
[15:20] <fx|RabBit> Slart: well precisely they are some 476 or so but called 500 blah you know the old story...
[15:20] <sipior> Bo^Dick: btw, do you really need the latest version? I've used 0.6.4 recently, and it seemed okay
[15:20] <soundray> fx|RabBit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
[15:20] <franco> !it
[15:20] <thoreauputic> !games
[15:20] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:21] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[15:21] <sipior> Bo^Dick: no worries, easily fixed
[15:21] <brobostigon> effi: packages.ubuntu.com
[15:21] <Rgem> How do I past by command?
[15:21] <Rgem> paste
[15:21] <Slart> fx|RabBit: yea.. I figure that's where the error is
[15:21] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i'm having serious problems with 0.6.4
[15:21] <DarkSpirit221> Hi, is there any GUI using macro recording tool?
[15:21] <erUSUL> fx|RabBit: also depending on the fs used you get different utilizable space...
[15:21] <Trashlord> is there a program for ubuntu, to convert FLV files to AVI?
[15:21] <fx|RabBit> Slart: nope im still missing 100gig
[15:21] <effi> thanks!
[15:21] <fx|RabBit> erUSUL: it is ext3 on lvm2
[15:21] <Trashlord> or FLV to MPEG
[15:21] <Rgem> how do I paste by command?
[15:22] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Thanks for the tip on Kompozer, that will work just fine. plus I can use the other tips you gave me to refresh my memory on code!
[15:22] <thoreauputic> effi, no worries :)
[15:22] <Slart> Trashlord: mencoder can do almost anything.. perhaps even flv
[15:22] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i've got two ntfs partitions on two physical hds /dev/sda1 and /dev/hdb1 respectively
[15:22] <sipior> Bo^Dick: okay, then you'll first need to unpack the archive by typing "tar jxvf partimage-0.6.7.tar.bz2"
[15:22] <june_> use mencoder
[15:22] <soundray> Trashlord: anything you can play with mplayer can be converted with mencoder. Also note the factoid:
[15:22] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, yes, and kompozer has a code tab option IIRC
[15:22] <soundray> !info clive | Trashlord
[15:22] <ubotu> trashlord: clive (source: clive): Video extraction utility for YouTube and Google Video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 31 kB, installed size 172 kB
[15:22] <Trashlord> nice, thanks guys
[15:23] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: Yeah I saw that, I just did the updates to my teams website solely in code, just to see if I still could.. Woohoo it worked.
[15:23] <fx|RabBit> soundray: Slart i am aware of that i should have 1464.84375 gb but i only have 1360
[15:23] <Bo^Dick> sipior: an error message occured
[15:23] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, heheh
[15:23] <jworkman01> throeauputic: not sure what the coc says about advertising my site but you can check it out if you want.
[15:23] <DarkSpirit221> Is there any GUI using macro recording tool? I want it to save my mouse movements and clicks, then loop them over and over again.
[15:23] <sipior> Bo^Dick: you're not going to make me ask what it says, are you? :-)
[15:23] <Slart> fx|RabBit: well.. 4 drives with 5<IP_ADDRESS> bytes each (=465 GB) makes for a raid with 1396 GB of space.. which is 1.36 TB
[15:23] <Bo^Dick> sipior: maybe i should just delete the bz2 file and give it up (don't even know if 0.6.7 will work better than the current one)
[15:24] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, probably comes under "off-topic" :)
[15:24] <Bo^Dick> sipior: "function 'open' failed"
[15:24] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, but it isn't a coc issue :)
[15:24] <LoLLo> if i cut skype and move it into another folder it doesn't work !! " the son process isn't found " ... !!!!
[15:24] <sipior> Bo^Dick: well, you might try just grabbing the 0.6.6 iso that'
[15:24] <Bo^Dick> sipior: "the file or directory does not exist"
[15:24] <l815> anyone use code::blocks in ubuntu?
[15:24] <sipior> Bo^Dick: that's available at the same page
[15:24] <LoLLo> pajaman ... i don't know but i've deleted the Adobe folder of the desktop and then it doesn't run anymore !!! i just wanna move that folders in a right position and don't have them in thedesktop
[15:24] <sipior> Bo^Dick: simply burn that, no compilation to trouble with
[15:25] <fx|RabBit> Slart: gosh i miscalculated-.-
[15:25] <fx|RabBit> sry to bother*blush*
[15:25] <Bo^Dick> sipior: the worst thing of all is that the download page made me believe that it was compiled and ready to be downloaded and installed
[15:25] <legend2440> l815: i have used code:blocks for c++ now i use netbeans
[15:25] <jworkman01> thoreauputic: is there a whisper option that i could just shoot it to you?
[15:25] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i was seriously double crossed
[15:25] <sipior> Bo^Dick: well, they say very clearly that that is a source-code tarball
[15:26] <Slart> fx|RabBit: no worries.. I'll just put a small mark here on my paper right next to your name.. your highschool math teacher will be calling you in a couple of days or so ;)
[15:26] <fx|RabBit> hahahaha
[15:26] <l815> legend2440 netbeans works on linux?
[15:26] <thoreauputic> jworkman01, well you can do a /query thoreauputic if you wish
[15:26] <sipior> Bo^Dick: try the iso, burn it to a cd, and you should be sorted
[15:26] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i strongly got the idea that the compile stuff was optional
[15:26] <sipior> Bo^Dick: most definitely not optional
[15:26] <chana_> Anyone know how/why Window border of an emerald theme seems to have an abstract picture a bit transparent? I want to make it solid.
[15:26] <legend2440> l815: yes you can use it for developing java, ruby c++
[15:26] <fx|RabBit> Slart: as long as its highscool thats  ok by me but pls dont tell my university profs
[15:27] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: are we clear?
[15:27] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: Why is my apt still running really slowly?
[15:27] <l815> legend2440 thanks
[15:27] <legend2440> l815 yw
[15:27] <spaghetti_knife> tritium: Sure. No god talk. But why were you the only one to voice offense?
[15:27] <Bo^Dick> sipior: many thanks for your help, i'll prolly try out some other imaging tool (that doesn't hang during operation)
[15:27] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: And what should I do again with apt?
[15:27] <LoLLo> i've deleted the Adobe folder of the desktop and then it doesn't run anymore !!! i just wanna move that folders in a right position and don't have them in thedesktop
[15:27] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: I'm an op, so I'm keyed into looking out for others.
[15:27] <sipior> Bo^Dick: no trouble, good luck to you
[15:28] <jworkman01> because tritium holds the key
[15:28] <soundray> Bo^Dick: just curious: what imaging tool have you tried?
[15:28] <robdeman> hi all - I installed the openldap server and phpldapadmin ... but what is the default Login DN + password for the initial login?
[15:28] <Bo^Dick> soundray: partimage only (version 0.6.4)
[15:29] <soundray> Bo^Dick: okay... you may have to look into dd
[15:29] <chana_> Anyone know how/why Window border of an emerald theme seems to have an abstract picture a bit transparent? I want to make it solid.
[15:29] <Bo^Dick> soundray: nope
[15:29] <Bo^Dick> soundray: is it better?
[15:29] <spaghetti_knife> tritium: So it has nothing to do with feeling personally insulted re: religion?
[15:29] <mino> Hi :) my apt-get have a big problem, he always start downloading some packages if install something, but sometimes at some packages he stops downloading(freezes) and only after a few minutes he go on... all other processes installation and so on goes fine... i switched 5x times the mirrors, but it doesnt help
[15:29] <tritium> spaghetti_knife: no
[15:29] <Slart> fx|RabBit: well.. I'll let you go for this time.. ;)
[15:29] <spaghetti_knife> tritium: Okay. I'll take that on faith.
[15:29] <soundray> Bo^Dick: it's very low-level, but there are tutorials and ubuntuforums discussions about using it for your purpose
[15:30] <bartmon> Hey. Does anyone know if flashplugin-nonfree will be updated soon to fix compatibility with Opera?
[15:30] <Bo^Dick> soundray: sounds very instresting
[15:30] <fx|RabBit> Slart: thank you so much buddy what you wanna drink?
[15:30] <Slart> bartmon: I hope they don't mess with it more.. it's finally working again on firefox
[15:30] <soundray> Bo^Dick: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159182 and stfw ;)
[15:30] <sipior> Bo^Dick: what exactly were you planning on doing with imaging, btw?
[15:30] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, do you have a proxy ? also disable ipv6 .
[15:31] <chana_> Anyone know how/why Window border of an emerald theme seems to have an abstract picture a bit transparent? I want to make it solid.
[15:31] <Slart> fx|RabBit: does that work on your university profs? =) never did try that
[15:31] <bartmon> Slart: Yeah, I'm happy that at least ff works. But Opera's been broken ever since the breakage began. :(
[15:31] <Slart> bartmon: it uses the same plugin?
[15:31] <bartmon> Slart: Yes.
[15:32] <sipior> chana_: i think there's an #emerald, the folks there might be better equipped to answer your question
[15:32] <fx|RabBit> Slart: didnt dare yet either but would be worth a try gg
[15:32] <chana_> k,thx
[15:32] <Slart> bartmon: I always thought opera had some kind of built-in flash support... can't you install flash manually? at least until they fix it?
[15:33] <_FReeZ> Hello, would you like to tell me what's the difference between trundle and roll, please?
[15:33] <fx|RabBit> _FReeZ: not unless you tell us what linux you use:P
[15:33] <tritium> !offtopic | _FReeZ
[15:33] <ubotu> _FReeZ: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:34] <_FReeZ> I need it to better understand the ubuntu
[15:34] <bartmon> Slart: I think so... Are you implying that the flash plugin from adobe's website is newer than the one in ubuntu's repos?
[15:34] <soulfury> anyone have a fix for the network drops issue I've seen 100+ posts on the forums about with ubuntu 7.10?
[15:34] <Shinjin> What file do I edit to change my applications menu?
[15:34] <soulfury> or at least some idea of where to continue trouble shooting?
[15:34] <Slart> bartmon: nah... that was just one solution flying around when it didn't work in firefox..thought it might be worth a try
[15:35] <Slart> Shinjin: there is a gui-editor in the system editor, afaik
[15:35] <chana_> sipior> Nobody in the Emerald channel.
[15:35] <Slart> Shinjin: I don't know which file that stores the settings though.
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> gconf-editor
[15:35] <sipior> chana_:  ah well
[15:35] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I'm not using a proxy for anything, and i have no idea how to disable ipv6, or how to determine I'm even using it.
[15:35] <soundray> Shinjin: System-Preference-Main Menu (following up on Slart's reply)
[15:35] <fx|RabBit> Slart: speaking of it do you know how i can fix a flasplayer crashing in firefox whenever opened more then 10 tabs or so problem?
[15:36] <rambo3> !ipv6 | spaghetti_knife,
[15:36] <ubotu> spaghetti_knife,: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[15:36] <soundray> fx|RabBit: open fewer tabs
[15:36] <tremby> anyone have an nvidia 880GT?
[15:36] <fx|RabBit> Slart: i cant reinstall that cr.. cos no 64 version avail at adobe's...
[15:36] <soundray> fx|RabBit: (scnr)
[15:36] <tremby> 8800GT that is
[15:36] <Shinjin> ok, I'm on Xubuntu, would it be the same?
[15:36] <Slart> fx|RabBit: nah.. the current state of flash in firefox (and perhaps elsewhere) is shameful.. I have no solutions for that
[15:36] <chana_> Anyone know how/why Window border of an emerald theme seems to have an abstract picture a bit transparent?  Perhaps  ask in #xubuntu?
[15:39] <Shinjin> start: Yeah thats what it says where all the application groups should be
[15:39] <tritium> fx|RabBit: please avoid that kind of talk here
[15:39] <Shinjin> Okay
[15:39] <ting> hi everybody, i would like to ask if anyone know how to sort the installed programs in the Synaptic Packages Manager by size ?
[15:39] <fx|RabBit> tritium: aye sir...
[15:39] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: does ipv6 have any real uses right now?
[15:39] <Slart> fx|RabBit: yea.. because those guys have had such great success in convincing the world so far.. =).. but this is !ot.. and flammable.. let's not go there
[15:39] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: when should I reenable ipv6?
[15:39] <Bo^Dick> soundray: am i supposed to find "dd" in the synaptic package manager?
[15:39] <spaghetti_knife> when I get a new computer?
[15:40] <soundray> Bo^Dick: it's a standard system tool -- you have it already
[15:40] <fx|RabBit> Slart: ok i admit i got a provolking style of humor sometimes, PLEASE channel police stay in the stables;)
[15:40] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: do you think ipv6 is the thing that's causing me trouble?
[15:40] <ting> or is any kink of way to list all the installed packages sorted by size without using the Sypnatic Packages Manager ?
[15:40] <soundray> Bo^Dick: comes with the coreutils package
[15:40] <Bo^Dick> soundray: oh, how come other software like ghost and partimage even exist for linux if dd is built in to do the job?
[15:40] <Slart> Shinjin: I'm not sure where you find this ---include--- thingy. I have nothing like it anywhere in my editor.. can you make a screenshot and post it somewhere?
[15:41] <rowdy> I am running gutsy with compiz on dell dimension 9150 with a ATO Radeon X300 card. My X restarts whenever i try to lock my screen
[15:41] <sipior> Bo^Dick: because dd likes to write every single bit out to disk, which takes forever on a large disk
[15:41] <coldboot> My system is using the wrong sound card. It's using the onboard sound instead of the sound blaster I installed. It used to work, changed for what I believe to be no reason. Any ideas?
[15:41] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, maybe also install netselect
[15:41] <soundray> Bo^Dick: because dd is very low-level. Many tools like that have optional and exchangeable front-ends
[15:41] <sipior> Bo^Dick: if most of that space is empty, you waste a great deal of time
[15:41] <rambo3> !info netselect | spaghetti_knife
[15:41] <ubotu> spaghetti_knife: netselect (source: netselect): Choose the fastest server automatically. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.ds1-10 (gutsy), package size 21 kB, installed size 96 kB
[15:41] <Slart> coldboot: asoundconf can set default soundcard
[15:41] <soulfury> coldboot: easiest way is to disable your onboard card in the bios =)
[15:41] <Bo^Dick> sipior: oops, that explains everything :(
[15:42] <Bo^Dick> wonder if ghostzilla is good
[15:42] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, you should enable it when they change the internet to ipv6. in 5, 10 ,15 year
[15:42] <rambo3> s
[15:42] <soulfury> hah yeah
[15:42] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I see.
[15:42] <spaghetti_knife> Thank you.
[15:42] <sipior> Bo^Dick: i'd try booting from the partimage CD image first
[15:42] <coldboot> Slart: Is that setting permament?
[15:43] <spaghetti_knife> So this ipv6 was just an attempt for early deployment of ipv6?
[15:43] <Slart> coldboot: afaik, yes
[15:43] <spaghetti_knife> Or at least to facilitate it?
[15:43] <coldboot> Slart: Do you type in the exact same string that appears in asoundconf list?
[15:43] <sipior> Bo^Dick: what exactly are you trying to get done, if you don't mind my asking?
[15:43] <PriceChild> ipv6 being enabled on ubuntu should not cause problems unless you've a dodgy network setup
[15:43] <Slart> coldboot: there is a switch to list soundcards you can use
[15:43] <Bo^Dick> sipior: make an image of my ntfs partition
[15:44] <sipior> Bo^Dick: well, obviously :) but as a backup? are you cloning another box?
[15:44] <coldboot> coldboot: asoundconf list does it, but when I set the default card to "gibberish", it has the same effect as if I set to it "CA0106"
[15:44] <coldboot> Slart: asoundconf list does it, but when I set the default card to "gibberish", it has the same effect as if I set to it "CA0106"
[15:44] <Bo^Dick> sipior: its for backup purpose in this particular case
[15:45] <Slart> coldboot: hmm.. and it doesn't affect the soundsystem? sound is still playing through the wrong card?
[15:45] <coldboot> Slart: Yeah
[15:45] <coldboot> Slart: A stupid program...
[15:45] <coldboot> Slart: Doesn't tell you if it did anything.
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, I do like dd for imaging partitions.. increase the buffer size to speed it up.
[15:45] <cyme> any1 know how to copy folders to wine folder
[15:45] <Slart> coldboot: you could try restarting alsa "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart"
[15:45] <bartmon> Does anyone know of a good guide how to fix hibernation in 7.10? I have a laptop with ATI graphics, using fglrx that the Restricted driver manager installs.
[15:46] <coldboot> Slart: I only have alsa-utils in there.
[15:46] <waylandbill> cyme: usually wine folder is located at ~/.wine. Copy under there.
[15:46] <Bo^Dick> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is that i've got a lot of free space on the drive
[15:46] <Slart> coldboot: try restarting that then
[15:46] <coldboot> Slart: Didn't help
[15:46] <cyme> im noob so what is the command for copy
[15:46] <bartmon> cyme: Wine stores its files under ~/.wine/drive_c/
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
[15:46] <sipior> Bo^Dick: ah, ntfs? ntfs is only supported experimentally on partimage. try installing ntfsprogs
[15:46] <soundray> bartmon: the fix involves using the ati driver instead of  fglrx. The latter is notorious for causing suspend/hibernation problems
[15:47] <sipior> Bo^Dick: there's a lovely little app in there called ntfsclone, which is what you want
[15:47] <Slart> coldboot: hmm.. this is odd.. I get the same behaviour here.. let me check the fine manual.. see if it offers any hints
[15:48] <noroot> how is ubuntu so great with hardware detection... just plugged in my bluetooth and it works like a charm. cant believe i got stuck with windows xp thinking its better with hardware detection..
[15:48] <waylandbill> cyme: use the file manager to copy the files. You can use the toggle button to get a text-based location bar to manually enter into the .wine folder
[15:48] <bartmon> soundray: Hm, but without fglrx I lose powersaving features that fglrx provides. I tried using rovclock to underclock this particular card before but I always get corruption.
[15:48] <Bo^Dick> sipior: there is one particularly inconsistent thing about partimage, it's that it stalls while attempting to pack one ntfs partition and does not while attempting another
[15:48] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: I've blacklisted ipv6, but if anything, the dl's are running slower than ever.
[15:48] <sipior> Bo^Dick: hence "experimental" :-)
[15:48] <Citizen> lo
[15:48] <rambo3> did you install netselect ?
[15:49] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, did you install netselect ?
[15:49] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: sudo apt-get install netselect? Yes.
[15:49] <Bo^Dick> ntfsclone sounds so intresting
[15:50] <Citizen> I have downloaded and 'try' to instal uubntu 3 tims. Same problem everytime, then i boot ubuntu i got a error "boot error"
[15:50] <soundray> bartmon: there is a relevant bug report, #134819. Also see the ATI release notes: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.25.18.html (substitute your version)
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Bo^Dick, See also g4l   ghost4linux
[15:50] <NarbeH> Jack_Sparrow: what is ghost4linux ?
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Let me see if I can find a link..   bootable cd...
[15:51] <Citizen> I get to the ubuntu menu and all
[15:51] <Slart> hmm.. why is nautilus using 1.5 GB memory.. seems a bit excessive... bad nautilus.. bad bad nautilus
[15:51] <sipior> Bo^Dick: see that, you're practically swimming in options!
[15:51] <coldboot> Nautilus is still crap.
[15:51] <cyme> yeah i can reach the folder but if i put my folder there it doesnt excist in the same way as notepad is "note: i use ubuntu ultimate edition"
[15:51] <coldboot> It doesn't even support ctrl+shift+click to make a new sublist of selections that doesn't clobber your existing selection.
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l
[15:51] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, sudo apt-get install netselect-apt
[15:51] <Slart> coldboot: mm.. nautilus seems like a good reason to not use gnome in the future..
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <daba> http://tipovidaba.bloger.hr/
[15:52] <FloodBot2> daba: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:52] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, and then run sudo netselect-apt
[15:52] <danbhfive> Citizen: sounds like you havea  grub problem, can you use the livecd?
[15:52] <coldboot> Slart: I still find there's nothing as good as Windows Explorer, which is awful, because Windows Explorer is also crap
[15:52] <rambo3> spaghetti_knife, wait
[15:52] <coldboot> Slart: Seriously, most software is crap, it's very annoying.
[15:52] <Slart> coldboot: tried thunar?
[15:53] <coldboot> Slart: Nah, maybe I'll have a look given the suggestion from a fellow Nautilus hater. =)
[15:53] <rambo3> don't  it lists packages for debian and not ubuntu. so dont
[15:53] <waylandbill> Citizen: did you try getting an md5sum of the downloaded iso? There is an md5sum executable available for windows if that's all you have now
[15:53] <Citizen> Some kind person want to help me?
[15:53] <Slart> !info thunar
[15:53] <ubotu> thunar (source: thunar): File Manager for Xfce. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.0-6ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 208 kB, installed size 640 kB
[15:53] <Citizen> hOW DO I GET THE MD5 SUM IN WIN
[15:53] <coldboot> Slart: Oh, XFCE's xffm
[15:53] <Citizen> caps sry
[15:53] <thoreauputic> !CAPS
[15:53] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[15:53] <Slart> Citizen: download a md5sum program
[15:53] <Pici> !verify | Citizen
[15:53] <ubotu> Citizen: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[15:53] <coldboot> Slart: It has a disjoint set of features that are better than Nautilus, but it's still crap.
[15:54] <Slart> Citizen: and seriously.. why ask here? we use ubuntu.. find some windows people to ask windows questions too
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Citizen, nero has a free md5 checker for windows
[15:54] <coldboot> Slart: If xffm and Nautilus merged features, and tossed out their crappy parts, they would be really good.
[15:54] <Citizen> Thanks!
[15:54] <Bo^Dick> i'm downloading the file g4l-v0.23.devel.tar.gz right now
[15:54] <danbhfive> Slart: he is trying to install ubuntu...
[15:54] <coldboot> Slart: I'm editing my ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf and it's still not working.
[15:54] <rambo3> !bug 157938
[15:54] <bartmon> soundray: Thanks for the info!
[15:55] <ting> hi ??
[15:55] <Slart> coldboot: or someone could realise that nautilus is one of the apps that most people see as "linux".. it's sad really
[15:55] <coldboot> Slart: The thing is, Windows people tend not to know anything, and don't talk in IRC.
[15:55] <coldboot> Slart: That's use, it's bad public relations. ;)
[15:55] <ting> there is anyonw that could help me ? I am trying to list all the installed packages that i have sorted by size
[15:55] <coldboot> Slart: s/use/true
[15:55] <ting> but i dont know how to do it
[15:55] <Bo^Dick> would apt-get install g4l-v0.23.devel.tar.gz do the job for me?
[15:55] <ting> i would like to remove some of them
[15:55] <coldboot> I'm going to disable my stupid on-board sound
[15:56] <waylandbill> Slart: don't drive someone away for not knowing to md5sum in windows.. nothing positive comes from that.
[15:56] <Slart> Citizen: the channel mates here are correct.. sorry for being snappy
[15:56] <sipior> Bo^Dick: no, i'm afraid not
[15:56] <Slart> Citizen: google for md5sum, there are a few small applications out there..
[15:56] <Bo^Dick> coldboot: what soundcard?
[15:57] <Bo^Dick> sipior: clink'n'go then?
[15:57] <soundray> ting: listing by installed size takes some fairly advanced scripting. You could look at the archive sizes: 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; ls -srS'
[15:57] <Bo^Dick> sipior: feels unnecessary to burn it to a cd
[15:57] <sipior> Bo^Dick: try "tar zxvf <filename>", in the directory in which the file resides
[15:58] <Bo^Dick> sipior: that only unzips it doesn't it
[15:58] <sipior> Bo^Dick: yep
[15:59] <te> hola
[15:59] <Bo^Dick> sipior: then i see some files "makecd" and stuff
[15:59] <te> can anyone help me view network printers in 7.10?
[15:59] <sipior> Bo^Dick: there's a g4l iso there as well, perhaps you should download that and burn it to a cd
[15:59] <Bo^Dick> sipior: what if i just wanna install it on the fly?
[15:59] <te> i changed my cups.conf to allow me to "browse"
[15:59] <te> but i have no idea what else to change
[15:59] <te> any help is greatly appreciated
[15:59] <te> im trying to spread ubuntu to the rest of the office
[15:59] <te> so you will be doing a great service
[16:00] <ting> thanks soundray
[16:00] <ting> i am gonna check it
[16:00] <waylandbill> te: is it a printer that supports IPP?
[16:00] <Konner> hi
[16:00] <sipior> Bo^Dick: if the disks you want to image are in use, problems may arise
[16:00] <DShepherd> anyone know where I can find a helloworld program that I can use to teaching compiling?
[16:00] <te> waylandbill: im not sure
[16:00] <Bo^Dick> sipior: it isn't in use
[16:01] <Citizen> I got the correct md5 sum. but how do I know its the correct one for the ubuntu iso
[16:01] <te> waylandbill: how would i figure that out?
[16:01] <soundray> ting: if you do want to go down the more advanced route, the file /var/lib/dpkg/status holds the raw information you need.
[16:01] <Bo^Dick> sipior: maybe g4l is a bootup tool only?
[16:01] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i thought it was a software like partimage
[16:01] <sipior> Bo^Dick: then you'll have to follow the build instructions, unmount the partitions you want to image, and run g4l on them
[16:02] <Bo^Dick> sipior: i need to install g4l prior to that i guess
[16:02] <waylandbill> te: manufacturer's specs would tell. I assume this is an ethernet printer as opposed to one that is being shared by another computer?
[16:02] <LoLLo> how can i remove an icon manually from the application menu ? ( i've uninstalled adobe but i can see the icon !!! )
[16:02] <ting> soundray ummm thanks, do you know where i can put some request for the next version of ubuntu ?? I would like to ask if it is possible to add the size sorting for the next version of Synaptic Packages Manager
[16:02] <soundray> !bugs | ting, you can file a wishlist bug
[16:02] <ubotu> ting, you can file a wishlist bug: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[16:03] <waylandbill> LoLLo: right click the main menu and select edit menus
[16:03] <sipior> Bo^Dick: honestly, much, much simpler to grab the iso and burn it. Really.
[16:03] <Slart> Citizen: the md5 sums for the cd's should be listed somewhere on the ubuntu site
[16:03] <Slart> !md5
[16:03] <Citizen> Again, I got the md5 sum frm the ISO file I downloaded, how do I know its the correct one?
[16:03] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[16:03] <ting> thanks very much guys
[16:03] <Bo^Dick> sipior: allright
[16:03] <ting> i will do it for sure
[16:03] <Citizen> Thanks
[16:03] <mrunagi> i think i accidently removed my installed lang pakages
[16:04] <LoLLo> way thanks !!!!
[16:04] <mrunagi> how can i find out
[16:04] <soundray> ting: still here?
[16:05] <spaghetti_knife> rambo3: what are you looking up?
[16:05] <ting> soundray: yes
[16:05] <soundray> ting: it's dead easy in synaptic
[16:05] <te> waylandbill: it's an ethernet printer for sure
[16:05] <vee_> hi all
[16:05] <Slart> Citizen: here are the md5sums https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:05] <LoLLo> !iso
[16:05] <te> waylandbill: the cupsd.conf is setup by default to only listen for printers locally i believe
[16:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[16:05] <ting> soundray:  what exactly is dead in synaptic ? sorting by size ?
[16:06] <vee_> Can I send email from a PHP script if I don't have a mail server installed(using 7.10)?
[16:06] <drini> I tried to install msttcorefonts, I got lots of errors about some files not being found. Now I can't REMOVE or PURGE the package
[16:06] <Frijolie> anyone know how to fix your window decorations? I have no minimize, maximize, or close buttions on any of my windows and they're all stuck in the upper left corner of my screen
[16:06] <soundray> ting: in Settings-Preferences-Columns and Fonts, make sure it displays the Installed Size. Then select All in the left part of the window and click on Size in the displayed list. Your window has to be large enough, so you can see the Size column
[16:06] <danbhfive> vee_: I dont think so, but someone might know better.  I personally had trouble with that
[16:06] <drini> since if I run apt-ger remove msttcorefonts, it will still try to DOWNLOAD the fonts
[16:06] <thebloggu> i have a computer with no sound here with ubuntu 7.10
[16:06] <drini> any clue how to go about that?
[16:07] <waylandbill> te: it most likely supports ipp then. You just need to know the ip address. many models this can be gotten from the menu by using the buttons/control panel on the printer itself. You could also look at your router's dns client table if you have one.
[16:07] <hischild> Frijolie, alt f2 --> compiz --replace
[16:07] <ting> soundray: really ???
[16:07] <drini> could I get apt to use the fonts from the windows partition?
[16:07] <thebloggu> already tries to install latest alsa
[16:07] <thebloggu> tried*
[16:07] <Frijolie> hischild: i'm not running compiz
[16:07] <ting> soundray:  ummm i am gonna check it
[16:07] <te> waylandbill: thanks for your help
[16:07] <soundray> ting: no need for a bug report ;)
[16:07] <ting> hehe
[16:07] <ting> true
[16:07] <Skitt> vee_: you can specify a mailserver in the php.ini. this doesn't need to be a local one
[16:07] <hischild> Frijolie, that's the only time i can imagine it being gone ...
[16:07] <vee_> danbhfive hi, yea i cant a script to work on it, that works just fine on my other server - whats a better server to install postfix or exim4?
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Frijolie, metacity --replace
[16:08] <Jerusalem420> hello all
[16:08] <Isoplast> hey
[16:08] <Jerusalem420> i'm running GG
[16:08] <Jerusalem420> and a couple of weeks my usb just stopped working
[16:08] <vee_> Skitt so just pick the current one given by my ISP
[16:08]  * soundray ponders that occasionally, well-made GUIs can have an edge over command-line tools
[16:08] <Jerusalem420> works fine in windbloze
[16:08] <effi> could someone explain me how to install freeciv on ubuntu?
[16:08] <mrunagi> i think i accidently removed my installed lang pakages is this going to be a problm?
[16:08] <Skitt> vee_:  if your isp allows that, why not
[16:08] <ting> soundray: done!!!! Thanks very much
[16:09] <Pici> mrunagi: It may be. Why not just re-install them?
[16:09] <Jerusalem420> how i can 'restart' or 'jump start' the usb system?
[16:09] <mrunagi> because the updated lang packs are broken and lock up your pc Pici
[16:09] <vee_> Skitt IM gonna go edit the ini file and try it out
[16:09] <Frijolie> YES! the metacity --replace worked!
[16:09] <effi> or at least how to install programs on ubuntu?
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Frijolie, There is also a gtk something replace but I could not remember that one..
[16:10] <mrunagi> maybe its just a kde problem
[16:10] <ceil420> !nvidia
[16:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:10] <Pici> mrunagi: Currently thats the only fix for the Kubuntu issue.
[16:10] <Frijolie> I'm also getting this error whenever I boot up "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAF110: Gnome_Panel_TrashAPP"
[16:10] <soundray> !software > effi, please read the private message from ubotu
[16:10] <waylandbill> vee_: if you are going to use mail in scripting, especially mixing php with something else, you could look into masqmail, so you can equate to using sendmail. Would allow easy transfer to other sites if needed.
[16:10] <soundray> !info freeciv-server > effi
[16:10] <thoreauputic> effi, go to add/remove programs, search there, apply - that's it really
[16:10] <drini> effi: have you run apt-get install freeciv-client-gtk  freeciv-server
[16:10] <vee_> waylandbill is that in the repository?
[16:11] <Jerusalem420> anyone know anything about USB stopping functioning in gusty?
[16:11] <thoreauputic> effi, or use the synaptic package manager under System -Admin
[16:11] <effi> thoreauputic, no, i've downloaded the files from their homepage, since it dont download the files with the add/remove program
[16:11] <Jerusalem420> anyone anyone? 1 2 3 testing testing. anyone?
[16:11] <soundray> !patience | Jerusalem420
[16:11] <hischild> no1
[16:11] <linunut> Jerusalem420: Patience, young padawan.
[16:11] <ubotu> Jerusalem420: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:11] <waylandbill> !info masqmail
[16:11] <ubotu> masqmail (source: masqmail): A mailer for hosts without permanent internet connection. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.21-1.2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 138 kB, installed size 548 kB
[16:11] <sipior> Jerusalem420: really? that's obnoxious.
[16:11] <thoreauputic> effi, freeciv server is in the repos as far as I know
[16:11] <linunut> Jerusalem420: All you have to do is right click the usb drive on your deskop and go to unmount.
[16:11] <jeffMASTERflex> Jerusalem420: there was an update today that was a patch to possibly fix this problem
[16:12] <vee_> thanx
[16:12] <thoreauputic> effi, enable all the possibilities - all the repos, reload, search again
[16:12] <Jerusalem420> thank you jeff
[16:12] <thoreauputic> effi, downloading from the web is a last resort - most things are in the repositories
[16:12] <thoreauputic> !repos > effi
[16:12]  * Jerusalem420 takes a dose of !patience
[16:13] <effi> im confused
[16:13] <thoreauputic> effi, how are you confused ?
[16:14] <soundray> effi: shall we go to #ubuntu-classroom and take you through step-by-step?
[16:14] <Jerusalem420> do you know what a repository is effi?
[16:14] <effi> thoreauputic, what is repos? and what do i have to do, when i have already downlaoded the files from the homepage
[16:14] <thoreauputic> effi, most Ubuntu software is installed from Ubuntu repositories
[16:14] <CorruptTerrorist> hey all
[16:14] <hischild> ah man no way not you again :p
[16:14] <thoreauputic> repos | effi
[16:15] <thoreauputic> !repos | effi
[16:15] <ubotu> effi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[16:15] <neverblue> morning
[16:16] <effi> thoreauputic, but i cant download it through synaptiv
[16:16] <soundray> thoreauputic, effi: #ubuntu-classroom ?
[16:16] <linunut> effi: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[16:16] <thoreauputic> soundray, OK
[16:17] <soundray> effi: can you /join #ubuntu-classroom
[16:17] <despai> hello
[16:17] <neoalex> what can I use to calibrate a touch screen
[16:17] <CorruptTerrorist> anyone help me with an nvidia error?
[16:17] <CorruptTerrorist> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57708/
[16:18] <Jerusalem420> jeff, how can i get the computer to update itself ?
[16:18] <ehird`> Jerusalem420: stare at it until it decides to
[16:19] <ehird`> wishing hopefully might help too
[16:19] <ehird`> but they don't generally make many decisions for themselves, computers.
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Jerusalem420, apt-get update  then apt-get upgrade
[16:19] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, you need the kernel sources for your kernel
[16:19] <vee_> Skitt in the php.ini file: do I adjust the part that says ;sendmail_path = ?
[16:19] <CorruptTerrorist> anyone help me with an nvidia error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/57708/ - it says that i need the kernel source code
[16:19] <lukasz> hey guys :)
[16:19] <jeffMASTERflex> Jerusalem420: update manager should start itself on its own when it senses an update. you can, however, just open up synaptic, reload then install the upgrades
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential
[16:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[16:19] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, download the kernel source package
[16:19] <jovitosg> hi people. how can i put the mac bar in ubuntu?
[16:20] <CorruptTerrorist> utkan0s, cant find them
[16:20] <utkan0s> CorruptTerrorist, type uname -a in a shell and tell me the kernel
[16:20] <despai> anybody knows why if i do: strncpy(argu[0],argv[0],strlen(argu)); bzero(argv[0], strlen(argv[0])); strncpy(argv[0],"test",4);   and then i type "ps u" on a shell it returns:  despai   15351 90.0  0.0   1732   364 pts/1    R+   17:13   0:01 testSSH_AGENT_PID=25229
[16:20] <neverblue> jovian, define 'mac bar'
[16:20] <netcrash> Hello , Trying to install hearbeat-2 but crm_mon doesn't get installed ?
[16:20] <vee_> he prolly means the dock
[16:20] <gomoran> Hello, I have problems with the cisco-vpn-client on a 7.10 machine. The client mostly hangs after “Initializing the VPN connection”.
[16:20] <ehird`> despai: because it will have been started with the argument of that
[16:20] <CorruptTerrorist> Linux joe 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:20] <ehird`> dunno why.
[16:20] <Lifeisfunny> Is there a file to install that will edit jpeg height through the command line terminal?
[16:20] <utkan0s> thanks CorruptTerrorist
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jovitosg, get cairo-dosck  and use the mac os bar option
[16:21] <despai> ?
[16:21] <Slart> Lifeisfunny: imagemagick
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> cairo-dock
[16:21] <jeffMASTERflex> when i think mac bar, i think that application bar at the top. when i think "dock" i think of, well, a dock