[17:01] <markveidemanis> lubuntu: irssi and 3 :D
[17:01] <markveidemanis> #mtmt .
[17:02] <ShawnRisk> when I do lsb_release -a it says Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[17:02] <OerHeks> markveidemanis, please don't spam,
[17:02] <markveidemanis> can people join it plz, need to set record
[17:03] <OerHeks> !coc > markveidemanis
[17:04] <Guest61343> Asking simple questions and getting a simple answer from search engines seems a thing of the past but would anyone know if ubuntu was installed on a raspberry pi would only packages designed for the pi work?
[17:05] <mathi> jrib, I decided to try to install Ubunstu Server again ... too many problems ... but again it doesn't go beyond "Configure the package manager", when it is about 20% "Scanning the mirror"
[17:06] <cariveri> hi there. after a complete crash of ubuntu (from firefox->flash plugin) I get a host unreachable problem, which I cannot solve, get anyone help?
[17:08] <OerHeks> Guest61343, the rPi uses Arm6, ubuntu can only run on Arm7, join #ubuntu-arm for that
[17:09] <cariveri> can anyone help me?
[17:10] <ShawnRisk> cariveri: you have to wait
[17:10] <Coldfire202> Hey
[17:10] <Coldfire202> Can anyone help me?
[17:11] <ShawnRisk> Coldfire202 >  ask
[17:11] <escott> Coldfire202, only if you ask
[17:11] <escott> juk?
[17:11] <escott> juk, sorry misread. poppler-utils may have some tools or pdftk
[17:12] <sorbanos_> Coldfire202: with what
[17:12] <ShawnRisk> what about my question?
[17:12] <escott> juk, pdfseparate is in poppler-utils
[17:12] <escott> ShawnRisk, please dont be rude there isn't a queue its more of a free for all
[17:13] <escott> ShawnRisk, you do NOT have 12.10 installed
[17:13] <Coldfire202> I'm having an issue, I install Ubuntu through the Windows installer to dual boot. And when I reboot it says I need to put my windows disc in and finish my installation proccess. Of course I hit enter and it takes me the boot menu in which I can choose the Ubuntu or my Windows 7. Well, I hit Ubuntu and it gives me an error. Something with the .mbr or something like that.
[17:14] <escott> ShawnRisk, if you want 12.10 but it is not appearing in your upgrade options it is probably because you are configured to upgrade only to the next LTS (ie 14.04) that can be changed through the software settings gui or through /etc/apt it think
[17:14] <sorbanos_> Coldfire202: you have issue with your hdd try in windows chkdsk /f
[17:14] <cariveri> ShawnRisk: alright.
[17:15] <ShawnRisk> escott: which settings?
[17:16] <escott> ShawnRisk, software sources -> Updates -> bottom selector "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version"
[17:16] <Coldfire202> sorbanos_: It's not my HDD. It's some boot loader when installing Ubuntu.
[17:17] <RandomCake> Hi, I've got a server running Ubuntu 10.10, and need to upgrade it, to 12.10 but I'm getting 404s when I do an apt-get update for things like: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz - what can I do to upgrade, as from what I understand, I need to install 'update-manager-core', but I just get 404s when I try to install it!
[17:17] <ShawnRisk> escott: thanks, I will update right now
[17:17] <escott> cariveri, ignore him he doesn't know how the channel works. can you please give more details
[17:18] <juk> escott: oh thanks, and is there something like pdfcombine?
[17:18] <VroomPed> I had a quick question, about installing ubuntu from a flash drive
[17:18] <Guest83585> i have logkeys and aircrack-ng installed in my 11.10 will updating to 12.10 will it create any problem?
[17:19] <escott> juk, pdfjoin which is oddly not in poppler-utils
[17:19] <escott> !find pdfjoin | juk
[17:19] <sorbanos_> Coldfire202: grub is very gentle with hdd errors
[17:19] <OerHeks> Guest83585, probably not, but you have to upgrade 11.10 > 12.04 > 12.10
[17:20] <nizor> Beginner...just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS....what are necessary beginners steps? Pls help :)
[17:20] <escott> juk, i think that embeds in the pdflatex processor, a more direct approach would be to use pdftk to join (you can find examples online)
[17:20] <VroomPed> Where I am at the internet is very slow, so I want to make sure i do this right. I should save the iso from the website, and then put it from my laptop onto the flashdrive (to boot from on another comuputer) right?
[17:20] <Guest83585> DerHeks: any easy way to do it..?
[17:20] <dcope> Hey all, I'm wondering what the support of HIS H675F1GD is. I'm looking to get this video card.
[17:20] <escott> sorbanos_, keep in mind he is using wubi
[17:21] <juk> escott: i think pdfjam is what i need
[17:21] <escott> VroomPed, in the correct way. you cant just put it on the flashdrive like it were a file you downloaded
[17:21] <VroomPed> Alright, then how should I do it? This is my first ubuntu project
[17:22] <sorbanos_> escott: i know and that is why i'm telling him to use chkdsk /f
[17:22] <VroomPed> I DO NOT want ubuntu on my computer, but on the flashdrive attached to my computer. for use in another computer
[17:22] <escott> sorbanos_, ok. just wanted to make sure you caught that fact.
[17:22] <OerHeks> Guest83585, easy way is fresh install, much faster than 2x upgrade
[17:22] <sorbanos_> escott: sure no prob
[17:22] <Coldfire202> Anybody know why I was getting that error when booting?
[17:22] <escott> VroomPed, what OS are you downloading the iso with?
[17:23] <VroomPed> Windows 7
[17:23] <juk> escott: pdfedit is nice, but ridiculously segfaults, and can't properly rotate pictures
[17:23] <Coldfire202> I'm having an issue, I install Ubuntu through the Windows installer to dual boot. And when I reboot it says I need to put my windows disc in and finish my installation proccess. Of course I hit enter and it takes me the boot menu in which I can choose the Ubuntu or my Windows 7. Well, I hit Ubuntu and it gives me an error. Something with the .mbr or something like that.
[17:23] <escott> VroomPed, you will need some kind of special software for that
[17:24] <VroomPed> You sure? Alright then.
[17:24] <escott> Coldfire202, does windows boot properly?
[17:24] <escott> VroomPed, you can find instructions on ubuntu.com for creating a CD on ubuntu.com they may also indicate what you need for the USB
[17:24] <Coldfire202> Yes, it does. Well, after I choose Windows 7 yes
[17:25] <VroomPed> alright, i'll look a little more thanks anyway :)
[17:25] <escott> VroomPed, should be accessible from the download page
[17:26] <kunji> I just noticed something weird in lightdm, I have 3 accounts right, my main user account, the guest account, and the remote login.  If I click on the remote login one, then I cannot click on the guest account, but I can click on my main user account and then on the guest account.  Does anyone know if there is an existing bug report for that?  Also my GUI seems to crash if I try to change accounts from within one (aka, via the menu in the up
[17:28] <kunji> jrib: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man5/xorg.conf.5.html  I find that the Option "BlankTime" "time" with the time being 0 seems to do the trick.  Do updates typically replace the xorg.conf though, say if a video driver receives an update?
[17:29] <jrib> kunji: nothing should touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:29] <Coldfire202> I'm doing the ISO way to see if it gives me different results
[17:30] <jrib> mathi: how are you installing it?  With the ubuntu server cd?
[17:31] <vifanq> Is there 12.10 for 32 bit x86 ?
[17:31] <vivid> vifanq: of course
[17:31] <escott> vifanq, x86 is 32bit
[17:32] <escott> vifanq, x86/i386=32bit x86_64/amd64=64bit
[17:33] <shanky_ty> Hi, i have dlink wifi usb stick but there is problem if i set dns <IP_ADDRESS> (i.e my wifi router) so sometime net wont work but when i change my dns to dns which is in router it works fine
[17:33] <cariveri> thanks escott. I was running ubuntu 11.10 and firefox crashed. logout and reboot stuck so I had to hard reboot. since then the connection to the wlan seems to work (icon tell so), but ping on any address on the network gives me host unreachable now. no wonder firefox and other software cant get a internet connection.
[17:34] <skeuomorf> shanky_ty you shouldn't set DNS to <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:35] <skeuomorf> shanky_ty you can use Google's open DNS service with IPs (<IP_ADDRESS>) and (<IP_ADDRESS>), or you can use your ISP's DNS which is probably set automatically
[17:35] <Dreadneck> shanky_ty, yeah... <IP_ADDRESS> is usually your default gateway... you can try setting your DNS to <IP_ADDRESS> if you want to use openDNS
[17:35] <escott> cariveri, sounds like the WPA handshake failed. not sure why that would be happening after a hard reboot. have you tried a full poweroff/poweron
[17:36] <cariveri> escott: yes I have.
[17:36] <shanky_ty> But should my computer's dns be <IP_ADDRESS> it should work too ..? my question why it doesnt work ..
[17:37] <Dreadneck> shanky_ty, no... <IP_ADDRESS> is usually your default gateway (i.e. your routers IP address)
[17:38] <shanky_ty> Oh.. but then for a period of time it works
[17:38] <Dreadneck> shanky_ty, try setting your DNS to <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> those are the openDNS DNS servers
[17:39] <paradise89> enyone for 5vs5
[17:39] <llutz> shanky_ty: for most soho-routers gateway=dns-server/proxy/cache, so it's nothing wrong with using the router as dns. still doesn't explain why it fails sometime
[17:39] <paradise89> >>
[17:39] <paradise89> ee
[17:40] <paradise89> dsadsa
[17:40] <paradise89> dsada
[17:40] <paradise89> gello
[17:40] <shanky_ty> Dreadneck: how can i specify both as my dns means one as primary other as secondary
[17:40] <Dreadneck> shanky_ty, is your system using DHCP to obtain its IP address and DNS info or are you trying to do it manually?
[17:40] <paradise89> for waht is this chanel
[17:40] <ikonia> ubuntu support
[17:40] <vifanq> escott: yeah I just wanted to emphahis my point
[17:41] <escott> vifanq, ?
[17:41] <shanky_ty> actually when i select automatic still dns field is enabled
[17:42] <vifanq> escott: about the 32bitness of x86
[17:43] <sgtkilljoy> u can use DHCP and manual dns, yes
[17:43] <Dreadneck> shanky_ty, if you're using Automatic DHCP then you shouldn't have to set anything.  If you want to manually enter DNS then click on your network icon, edit connections, select wired or wireless, then enter the info in additional DNS servers
[17:45] <sgtkilljoy> tho ur DHCP server will prob assign ur dns by default
[17:49] <shanky_ty> Dreadneck, kk i will try that thanks for the help\
[17:49] <blbrown_win3> anyone do c++ development. I was going to install the log4cXX? package, which one is more common:  liblog4cxx10-dev  liblog4cpp5-dev
[17:49] <einonm> Hi, during package update on 12.04, I get: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qemu-kvm/qemu-utils_1.0+noroms-0ubuntu14.6_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:50] <einonm> Server pings OK
[17:50] <einonm> any ideas please?
[17:51] <wynn> Is there a touch keyboard, like the one for an ipad?
[17:51] <flow__> blbrown_win3, just install the package build-essential it will get you everything you need
[17:51] <jpds> einonm: sudo apt-get update and try again.
[17:52] <blbrown_win3> flow__, what will that do?
[17:53] <einonm> jpds: Brill, thanks very much!
[17:53] <nizor> hello
[17:53] <flow__> !build-essential
[17:53] <flow__> blbrown_win3, will install everything from the gcc compiler to the other libs you need to develop in cpp
[17:55] <jjgalvez__> going out to get a new wireless card/usb for my computer, having to many issues with the rtl8180 driver. Any recommendations? or better anything I should avoid?
[17:55] <cariveri> escott: I just booted in a live cd of puppy linux and by wizard I could easily connect to the wlan, but still the same problem. looks like my router is the source of evil here ? I rebooted that lately too. maybe something went wrong there.
[17:56] <flow__> jjgalvez__, it's easy to 'fix' the rtl8180 driver
[17:57] <jjgalvez__> flow__: how?
[17:57] <nizor> 9ja p
[17:57] <flow__> jjgalvez__, what driver are you actually using ? if it's not 8180 ... blacklist the one you have
[17:57] <flow__> jjgalvez__, it will force linux to use the next available one
[17:58] <escott> cariveri, could be.
[17:58] <jjgalvez__> I am using the rtl8180
[17:58] <escott> cariveri, don't really have any good diagnostic ideas except disabling WPA temporarily and seeing if that helps
[17:59] <flow__> jjgalvez__, try blacklisting it, maybe it will work; or try the developers website
[17:59] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:00] <RichiH> actually, we killed a server
[18:00] <jjgalvez__> flow__: if I blacklist rtl8180 I do not any wireless, so I don't think the card works with any other driver
[18:00] <juk> escott: how to join using pdfjoin?
[18:00] <cariveri> thanks escott so far. I will reboot the router before that . that means I get disconnected for a minute.
[18:01] <Dizzle> does anyone know of a tool , plugin , something of the sort that can on the fly normalize audio output across the whole system? so like if i have 2 video files and a game with way different volume levels and i play them it adjusts to a set "perceived volume"
[18:01] <flow__> jjgalvez__, when i installed the linux binary driver from the official website, it installed rtl81892 ... so i had to blacklist it
[18:01] <escott> juk, never used it
[18:01] <flow__> jjgalvez__, i'm also using rtl8180
[18:03] <juk> escott: just pdfunite in the same poppler...
[18:03] <juk> \/found :p
[18:03] <jjgalvez__> flow__: I didn't install anything from the vendor, just popped the card in, it workd fine before with 11, but not in 12.04 it has been having issues, dropping connections and horribly slow speed
[18:04] <flow__> jjgalvez__, then install from the vendor! it happened to me too, just remember if you have another driver ... blacklist it
[18:06] <jjgalvez__> flow__: install the driver from realtek? the chip in the card is listed as RTL-8185 or goto the actual manufacture website?
[18:07] <flow__> jjgalvez__, for example i have tp-link ... i went to tp-link's website and found my driver there
[18:08] <jjgalvez__> flow__: BTW how id you know it installed the 81892 driver? or rather were did you find what to blacklist. And do you have to rebuild the driver everytime there is a new kernel?
[18:08] <sgtkilljoy> jjgalvez__: wat driver is currently installed?
[18:09] <jjgalvez__> sgtkilljoy: rtl8180
[18:09] <flow__> jjgalvez__, yes, about the kernel part! It bugs me as well ... about the driver ... type nm-tool and see the driver being used
[18:09] <flow__> jjgalvez__, also, there should just be an install script ... just run that :D
[18:09] <flow__> jjgalvez__, easy as pie
[18:10] <dufa> I have a quick question. Is the hud supposed to work in all applications that use the menus at the top, or does the application specifically need to support the hud?
[18:10] <MK``> does gedit have a function to reopen a closed tab like firefox does?
[18:10] <sgtkilljoy> jjgalvez__: modprobe -l | grep real
[18:10] <flow__> MK``, not that i know of
[18:11] <petermlm> Fastest I know is the recent documents
[18:11] <siavoshkc> firefox does?
[18:11] <petermlm> yes, ctrl+alt+t
[18:11] <petermlm> Chrome also has
[18:11] <MK``> it's ctrl+shift+t, not alt.
[18:11] <petermlm> ups, sorry
[18:12] <Fonsie> so i know this is the ubuntu channel but everybody here has been most helpful in the past and the ##windows channel is dead and nobody is answering anything
[18:12] <Fonsie> i cant seem to get a certain theme to work correctly
[18:12] <sgtkilljoy> Fonsie: in windows?
[18:12] <Fonsie> yes
[18:12] <sgtkilljoy> Fonsie: wrong place
[18:13] <jjgalvez__> flow__: I was hesitant to do that mainly because the linux driver from the realtek sight was for kernel version 2.6x don't I need at least a 3.X version?
[18:13] <jjgalvez__> sgtkilljoy: thanks nice command to know
[18:14] <Fonsie> i had already said that i know this is ubuntu channel but have been here before and received great help and there isnt anybody talking or answering anything in ##windows and was going to see if anybody in here could help if they know anything about windows
[18:14] <flow__> jjgalvez__, just try it, see if it works
[18:14] <DJones> Fonsie: I'm afraid you'll have to ask in ##windows, the channel is strictly ubuntu only
[18:14] <ncsquid22> sorry Fonsie....no windows here
[18:15] <sgtkilljoy> jjgalvez__: the one from realteck should be r8168 no?
[18:15] <Fonsie> is there any other windows channels besides ##windows because right there useless
[18:15] <ncsquid22> Google.com
[18:15] <DJones> !alis | Fonsie
[18:16] <Fonsie> alright, thank you
[18:17] <jjgalvez__> sgtkilljoy: the card says its RTL-8185 (lshw) where did you get r8168?
[18:19] <sgtkilljoy> jjgalvez__: go http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/ install there driver and blacklist kernal driver
[18:20] <sgtkilljoy> el*
[18:24] <kmicu> Anyone here can share daemon.conf for USB X-Fi card?
[18:28] <lessless> hi guys! i have htc vivid ID_VENDOR_ID=0bb4, but udevadm test --action=SUBSYSTEM=="usb" ENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}=="0bb4", MODE="0666" produces error unable to open device '/sysENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}==0bb4,'
[18:28] <lessless> please, help me to get discovered :)
[18:28] <jjgalvez__> sgtkilljoy,  flow__ , tried to build the drivers from realtek and they don't build, I get an error message that says "*** No rule to make target `stuff/rtl8185_linux_26.1031.1207.2009.release/rtl8185'.  Stop." and trendnet does not have linux drivers on their site
[18:29] <lpalomares> Hi all..  have this brand new thoshiba laptop, can't install ubuntu 12:10 on it, how to doit?
[18:30] <flow__> jjgalvez__, hmm, read the instructions first
[18:30] <zetheroo> is there an Ubuntu Phone channel?
[18:30] <jjgalvez__> flow__: I did it said "make, make install"
[18:31] <Dizzle> lpalomares: what do you mean "can't"?
[18:31] <fidel> !phone | zetheroo
[18:31] <zetheroo> fidel: thanks
[18:31] <flow__> jjgalvez__, you should have (./configure [or cmake depends on the case], make , make install
[18:31] <sgtkilljoy> jjgalvez__: there should be an autorun script
[18:32] <lpalomares> Dizzle: have dvd on drive and nothing happend, have tried with usb, nothing, pushing several key's F1>>F12 nothing
[18:32] <sgtkilljoy> jjgalvez__: .autorun, ues that
[18:32] <flow__> jjgalvez__, also, sometimes make and make install require su privileges
[18:32] <zetheroo> another question: how much HDD space does a install of Ubuntu Desktop take?
[18:32] <Dizzle> lpalomares: did you burn the iso as a disk image or just have a disk with an iso file sitting inside it?
[18:33] <lpalomares> Dizzle: I'm reading about UEFI boot system and thinking that this is my problem
[18:33] <sgtkilljoy> jjgalvez__: yes in dir "sudo ./autorun.sh"
[18:33] <Dizzle> lpalomares: what os are you on now?
[18:33] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:33]  * flow__ high fives sgtkilljoy !
[18:34] <lpalomares> Dizzle: I know about Linux, this is from my Xubuntu laptop (Asus),
[18:34] <sgtkilljoy> lpalomares: did u set the boot priority in BIOS settings?
[18:34] <lpalomares> ubottu: thanks for the link, I'm in my way to read that
[18:38] <jjgalvez__> sgtkilljoy, flow__ , no ./configure, autorun script or anything only a Makefile
[18:38] <Sheikhmak> can anyone give me instructions on how to successfully get flash working with no slowing down, lag, or hike in processor usage.
[18:38] <kunji> jrib: Sorry, was away for a bit, by nothing touching xorg, you mean without the user's direct/indirect meddling right?  Because I'm pretty sure the Nvidia proprietary drivers write an xorg when you change the settings and you need to save it to keep those settings across a reboot or something like that.  I would say this is resolved though, good stuff, thanks for all the help ^_^.
[18:39] <jrib> kunji: right, I meant packages.  But if you use a tool like nvidia-settings, then you could possibly overwrite the xorg.conf with it
[18:39] <flow__> jjgalvez__, do you have build-essential ?
[18:40] <flow__> jjgalvez__, and the autorun file shoud be there O.o
[18:40] <kunji> Sheikhmak: You just asked the impossible, it's not going to happen.  I think you mean for it to just be running as intended with MINIMAL slowing down, lag, and not having the processor pegged at 100%.
[18:40] <jjgalvez__> flow__: yes I have build essential
[18:41] <flow__> jjgalvez__, i suggest trying autoconf, and then make, make install; but the chances for this to work are minimal
[18:41] <ubar> can anyone help me with metasploit.. Currentrly installed on ubuntu 12.10
[18:42] <Sheikhmak> kunji, at least the optimal.
[18:42] <kunji> Sheikhmak: If you give more details it will help others to help you, for instance, what have you tried so far?  What specs does your pc have (a slow pc running flash is only ever going to be slow and will probably never be able to watch 1080p videos on Youtube).
[18:43] <tweikable> i seemed to not be connected to any database. and when i use db_connect<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it says perminion denied, basicly wronge password used for use msf
[18:44] <jrib> tweikable: wrong channel?
[18:44] <tweikable> i thought this would be the right channel
[18:44] <tweikable> becusase im using it on ubuntu 12.10
[18:44] <jrib> tweikable: I don't understand your question then
[18:44] <tweikable> i have metaspoit installed on my ubuntu
[18:45] <tweikable> i use msfconsole to access from ubuntu terminal
[18:45] <jjgalvez__> flow__, sgtkilljoy, thanks for the help guys, but I am going to just try a new card, this one is giving me to many headaches today
[18:46] <tweikable> problem that im havcing druing my set up. i forgot my password i put for use msf on metasploit. and im trying to seee if anyone here has used and is of some knowleged of basic metasploit commands. or how can i remove a whole directory beucase i cant figure a way to unistall it. this way i can reinstall it
[18:46] <tweikable> its under dir /opt
[18:47] <tweikable> its /opt/metaspoit-framework
[18:47] <tweikable> i tried rmdir but it tells me there files in that directory
[18:47] <sgtkilljoy> tweikable: see #metasploit
[18:47] <tweikable> aw alright sorry guys thanks though
[18:48] <tweikable> have a good one.... GO 49ers
[18:48] <craigbass1976> There's some google chat app running and I've got no idea what it is.  I odn't see anything with ps -ef that looks suspicious.
[18:49] <lv10> Does anyknow about a desktop motherboard that is fully compatible with ubuntu and that is able to suppor min/max 32 gb ram?
[18:50] <lv10> Does anyone know about a desktop motherboard that is fully compatible with ubuntu and that is able to suppor min/max 32GB ram?
[18:50] <JoseeAntonioR> Hey, guys! After reinstalling nvidia-current and rebooting, I have no Unity. Any idea on what may have happened?
[18:51] <Wulf> lv10: "fully" is a bit much maybe
[18:51] <marcos> hello everyone, may i ask a question?
[18:51] <Gnea> lv10: ubuntu will run on any x86-based motherboard. I suggest Asus.
[18:51] <fidel> !ask > marcos
[18:51] <Gnea> !ask | marcos
[18:51] <sgtkilljoy> lv10: that would be a vary long list, i suggest  u find one u want and then check compatibility
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> lv10  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMotherboards
[18:52] <marcos> is there someone having a strange problem while installing applications through software center?
[18:52] <Gnea> MonkeyDust: funny, it doesn't mention socket1155 under Intel
[18:52] <marcos> some debconf window showing up
[18:52] <lv10> thanks for the link.
[18:52] <flow__> marcos, describe your problem please
[18:52] <Gnea> marcos: how is it a problem?
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> marcos  define "strange"
[18:53] <lv10> It has exactly what I needed. For some reason I wasn't able to get that link on google or searching within ubuntu
[18:53] <marcos> it's a blank debconf window
[18:53] <Blackouter> !
[18:53] <marcos> with no content at all
[18:53] <Gnea> marcos: try pressing the 'tab' key
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> marcos  start from the beginning, what brings you here, what were you doing
[18:54] <Gnea> MonkeyDust: he's pretty much explained that already
[18:54] <marcos> ok, let me start again
[18:54] <Sheikhmak> so here's my CPU stats, a 2 year old computer http://pastie.org/5783889, Browser is  Chromium 23.0.1271.97 on Ubuntu 12.10 [xubuntu x86_64] kernel 3.5.0-17-generic, running flash <IP_ADDRESS>1  when I play a video on any site, even in 720p or lower. cpu usage dramatically increase. I watch my logs, no errors reported. I switch to firefox 18.0, manually install the latest flash I can find <IP_ADDRESS>1, same effect.
[18:54] <lorenzo> hi! where should I put an alias that I created for the bash shell?
[18:55] <lorenzo> I tried .profile but no luck
[18:55] <marcos> when i try to install any app from the software center
[18:55] <marcos> some debconf window shows up
[18:55] <jrib> lorenzo: ~/.bashrc
[18:56] <marcos> but it's a blank window, with nothing at all
[18:56] <lorenzo> jrib: worked. thanks ^^
[18:56] <magma> Anyone here notices that chromium works better with ubuntu than firefox?
[18:56] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: what about cpu/mobo/gpu temperatures?
[18:56] <marcos> the worst is that it doesn't go away
[18:56] <lotus> hey, my mouse cursor is moving on inverted axis -- how can I fix this?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> magma  great, then it's easier to decide which one you prefer
[18:57] <sgtkilljoy> marcos: odd, mabe try a "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update"
[18:57] <Gnea> magma: they both work about the same, chrome is just faster since firefox has more bloat
[18:57] <marcos> and a have to log out then in again
[18:57] <marcos> i tried the clean option but it still happens
[18:58] <Gnea> marcos: perhaps using software center isn't a good idea, try doing it the old fashion way that sgtkilljoy suggests
[18:58] <craigbass1976> anyone?  I'm sure I installed this app, but I've got no recollection.
[18:58] <magma> Gnea, not really. I'm used to firefox and I prefer firefox, but I've noticing that firefox is always slowing down my system
[18:58] <Sheikhmak> Gnea never really checked, i'll find those out for you, laptop does get hot. I have it seating with a kickstand on my table at all time. sort of like a desktop now. to try to get the most air to it.
[18:59] <Gnea> magma: no, really. I've used firefox since its inception due to Netscape becoming bloated. Firefox has since become more complicated, but only to a point... it's still less resource intensive than Chrome is.
[18:59] <marcos> yes, using apt or synaptic this doesn't happen
[18:59] <marcos> only with software center
[18:59] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: okay. also, you may need to take it apart and use a can of air to blow out dust.
[18:59] <Gnea> !pm | magma
[19:00] <marcos> anyone had already seen this?
[19:00] <JoseeAntonioR> !enter | marcos
[19:00] <magma> So how do you Gnea explain that it is always slow after awhile of being running
[19:01] <sgtkilljoy> marcos: can u install apps with apt-get??
[19:01] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys! I'm having a problem when running unity, it gives me this error: Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: glXQueryExtensionsString is NULL for screen 0. It was running fine until I reinstalled nvidia-current from the repos, any idea?
[19:01] <Gnea> magma: it doesn't handle memory very efficiently. it leaves some things running in memory instead of deleting them from memory.
[19:01] <Sheikhmak> Gnea oh that i do often, replaced heat sink back in november. even with windows, the dv7 pavillion is known to get hot. but not normal to get cpu process go from 8 to 65% on a play video.
[19:02] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: so that happens using flash? what about html5?
[19:02] <undrline> "Package libreoffice has no installation candidate" ... 10.04
[19:02] <kunji> Sheikhmak: only to 65% for flash?  That's nothing to worry about.
[19:02] <undrline> ppa added okay ... what's the problem?
[19:02] <marcos> sgtkilljoy: yes, with apt-get and synaptic i can install normally
[19:03] <OerHeks> undrline, so your ppa has no candidate for your ubuntu version, remove it and be happy with the current one
[19:03] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: also, did you replace any thermal grease on the heatsink?
[19:03] <sgtkilljoy> marcos: dont know, reinstall software center app maybe ?????
[19:04] <undrline> so I have to install using the old add-every-deb method?
[19:04] <Sheikhmak> Gnea not sure, lol I just replaced it tat for tat.
[19:04] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge | undrline
[19:04] <Sheikhmak> kunju, that's normal really?
[19:04] <kunji> Sheikhmak: That is normal behavior for flash, remember it doesn't use the gpu in linux like it is able to on Windows.  It is quite cpu intensive.
[19:04] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: well if you didn't put any thermal grease between the heatsink and cpu, that's probably your problem
[19:04] <Sheikhmak> Gnea, you know what I'll find out how to do html5 only
[19:04] <vjacob> Hi! How does one disable the use of Fn keys for Ubuntu purposes, so that I can free them up for other uses?
[19:05] <undrline> libreoffice wasn't in the original packages, I don't understand why I would remove the other repo
[19:05] <shortstraw8> How do I find the document root of apache
[19:05] <kunji> Sheikhmak: Really, very very normal.
[19:05] <przemek_> hello Dears , i have a question is bonnie++ can destroy data on my HDD ?
[19:05] <Gnea> !keybinding | vjacob
[19:06] <vjacob> GNea: I thought I tried that. Let me look again
[19:06] <Gnea> shortstraw8: it's in the apache configuration file
[19:07] <Sheikhmak> Gnea i'll really look into that, god tips though. html, and grease in between sink.
[19:07] <Gnea> vjacob: this is a bit technical, but might be useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopSpecialKeys
[19:07] <Sheikhmak> kunji i see.
[19:07] <marcos> sgtkilljoy: well, that i didn't try yet. It's odd , i dont use the software center often but last time i did it was fine
[19:08] <sgtkilljoy> shortstraw8: in httpd.conf
[19:08] <kunji> Sheikhmak: The heat may or may not be normal, I'm not familiar with the exact model of the laptop.  Right, see if playing html5 video is better, or playing files from your HD.
[19:08] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: yes, without the grease, the fan will only pull away the heat that the heatsink collects, which is less, since the thermal grease makes for a faster avenue for the heat to travel upon.
[19:08] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: it's the same basic reason why engines in cars and trucks need oil: not only to reduce friction, but to reduce heat so that they don't seize
[19:09] <sgtkilljoy> Sheikhmak: use sensors to monitor cpu temp, find out wat normal for yours
[19:09] <magma> Gnea, do you usually have many tabs opened?
[19:09] <tweikable> is there a command for removing a whole dir. with files still in it
[19:09] <kunji> Sheikhmak: There is a good tool for downloading youtube videos (youtube-dl) that you can then play with say vlc.  Remember to run the update function within youtube-dl a few times though, the version in the software center is a few updates behind.
[19:09] <tweikable> when i try rmdir on dir /opt
[19:09] <shortstraw8> sgtkilljoy, is there a way to find it in command
[19:09] <tweikable> it says that can not do that becuase there is files inside of the directiory
[19:09] <Gnea> magma: depends. sometimes just a few, sometimes 20+. firefox never keeps up with chrome. NEVER.
[19:09] <sgtkilljoy> shortstraw8: grep -i 'DocumentRoot' httpd.conf
[19:10] <jhutchins> tweikable: Why do you want to remove /opt?
[19:10] <away> tweikable, rm -r dir_name
[19:10] <Gnea> magma: I can kill 15 tabs in chrome and it will help take the strain off of the system, but if I do that in firefox, it will take a little bit of strain off... sometimes firefox will simply crash.
[19:10] <vjacob> gnea: hmm, those both seem to offer only complicated or "many step approaches" to what it is that I want to do
[19:10] <kunji> Sheikhmak: Also, as Gnea is saying, you should never really be running without thermal grease.  It does work temporarily if absolutely necessary for tasks that don't drive the cpu hard, but you don't want to be doing that long term.
[19:10] <undrline> I still don't understand, I didn't have libreoffice, so I added the ppa, and libreoffice still wasn't available.  wiki says that it's available for 10.04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
[19:10] <tweikable> well i have metasploit on it . and i forgot my password to the metaspliont database
[19:10] <tweikable> so i want to reinstall it
[19:10] <vjacob> gnea, I take it your thinking is that I could assign a short-cut to each Fn key, e.g. F1, F2, etc.
[19:11] <przemek_> hello Dears , i have a question is bonnie++ can destroy data on my HDD when this benchmark is in progress? :)
[19:11] <tweikable> and its under dir . /opt/metasploit-framerwork
[19:11] <vjacob> gnea, I just want to free them up from use of Ubuntu, similar to what one can do in Mac OS X
[19:11] <vjacob> gnea with one check box or a settings file flag?
[19:11] <blkadder> przemek_: It shouldn't.
[19:11] <away> tweikable, why not just rm /opt/metasploit-framerwork ?
[19:11] <magma> Gnea, which one do you use after all?
[19:11] <tweikable> oooo i thought that was the same thing
[19:11] <Gnea> magma: chrome
[19:12] <przemek_> blkadder: thank You
[19:12] <magma> Gnea, you are saying chromium is more advanced than firefox? And that firefox doesn't keep up?
[19:12] <craigbass1976> http://thebestcabinetsite.com/mystery-googletalk-app.png   I can't figure out what this is.  Does it look familiar to anyone?
[19:12] <Gnea> vjacob: well different laptop manufacturers provide that information.. what do you have?
[19:12] <OerHeks> undrline, that wiki is wrong > https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=lucid no candidate
[19:12] <Gnea> magma: in my experience, yes.
[19:12] <vjacob> gnea: this isn't a laptop actually, it's an apple USB keyboard connected to a thinkCentre desktop pc
[19:12] <Gnea> magma: I use chrome across multiple platforms
[19:12] <jhutchins> tweikable: How did you intsall metasploit?  I'm asking these questions because deleting individual items can be a bad idea, it can prevent a package manager or install script from working.
[19:13] <magma> Gnea, right! That's what I said. What do you meant by bloat btw?
[19:13] <Gnea> magma: I already explained it.
[19:13] <tweikable> http://www.darkoperator.com/installing-metasploit-in-ubunt/
[19:13] <undrline> thanks oerheks!  was feeling dumb.  appreciate it.
[19:13] <Gnea> vjacob: hrm.
[19:13] <vjacob> gnea thanks for the links though, I just don't think that helps solving the situation
[19:13] <Sheikhmak> thx for the tips, looking into it
[19:14] <vjacob> I'm looking at the Options window of Keyboard Layout now in the Ubuntu Desktop under Settings
[19:14] <magma> Gnea, no you did not. And I can't find the correct definition in the dict :p
[19:14] <Gnea> vjacob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard#Change_Function_Key_behavior
[19:14] <Gnea> magma: 13:01 < Gnea> magma: it doesn't handle memory very efficiently. it leaves some things running in memory instead of deleting them from memory.
[19:15] <Gnea> magma: yes, yes I did. ^^
[19:15] <magma> ok
[19:15] <koerper> quit
[19:15] <kunji> vjacob: Umm, in what context, just pushing the key by itself?  Or like the ctrl+alt+f1 for the virtual terminals?
[19:15] <jhutchins> magma: "Bloat" means code or features that the commentor did not request and feels is unnecessary and/or inefficient.
[19:15] <vjacob> gnea: wow that looks useful.
[19:15] <vjacob> thanks a bunch, I didn't come across that page until now
[19:15] <Gnea> vjacob: cheers
[19:16] <magma> Cause to swell with fluid or gas.
[19:16] <magma> ok thanks
[19:16] <vjacob> kunji: the difference between your questions isn't clear to me
[19:16] <Sheikhmak> funny never heard of the grease, the retailers should at least say something
[19:16] <magma> jhutchins, which browser do you use btw?
[19:16] <jhutchins> magma: I use firefox.
[19:16] <vjacob> kunji: yes to pressing button, and yes that would also seem to entail answering yes to your second question
[19:16] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: they won't, they assume that you know what you're doing.
[19:16] <marcos> sgtkilljoy: i'll try to reinstall software center to see if it fixes the problem. If not, i don't have problem using apt or synaptic. Thanks for your time!
[19:17] <jhutchins> magma: Looks like I'm on 18.  I use chrome on Windows, and I like it.
[19:17] <Gnea> Sheikhmak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rPqCvCt0g
[19:18] <jhutchins> magma: I used to use konqueror and I really liked it but the developers didn't keep up with the code.
[19:18] <magma> jhutchins, on 18 what?
[19:18] <kunji> vjacob: If that link answered your question then don't worry about it.  I was just wondering if you were trying to assign the f1-f7 keys on their own, or in that particular combination because that combination for keys f1 through f7 is done at a lower level than where you would normally assign hotkeys, i.e. it works even when you can only access the terminal.
[19:19] <jhutchins> magma: version 18 of firefox.
[19:19] <vjacob> kunji: I'm not trying to assign combinations, just have the individual keys useable by applications such as 'mc'
[19:19] <jhutchins> kunji: f1-f7 work differently in console than they do in X.
[19:19] <vjacob> kunji, it hasn't answer yes and incidentally I can not access the console currently when in X
[19:20] <vjacob> -yes +yet
[19:20] <kunji> Sheikhmak: Really?!?!?  Stock heatsinks come with it applied, if you're buying aftermarket heatsinks it's assumed you already know.
[19:20] <magma> oh me too, don't you notice performance problems with firefox 18 jhutchins ?
[19:20] <vjacob> but there appears to be two different issues at work
[19:20] <vjacob> on the function of the individual keys, and one of the combination of keys (reacting to the individual programming)
[19:20] <kunji> jhutchins: I know, that's why I was asking what he was trying to do.
[19:21] <jhutchins> magma: Meh. No real problems. Then again there are bugs in the code that handles the history functions that I reported back when it was Mosaic.
[19:21] <craigbass1976> BAH!  It's a freaking Chromium plugin for Googletalk that runs whether I'm using Chromium or not.  Mystery solved...
[19:22] <kunji> vjacob: I think that post should get your keyboard operating normally, then you can just assign the hotkeys in the keyboard settings like you normally would.
[19:22] <jhutchins> kunji: There's nothing particularly special about those keys.  If you start fewer consoles they don't do anything.
[19:22] <vjacob> actually I hope I don't have to assign them still, since I don't have anything to assign them to
[19:22] <BigC85> Hey everyone is anyone familiar w/ the touchpad gestures in 12.10 every time I try a three finger gesture when I put three fingers on the trackpad the Dash opens any ideas?
[19:22] <jhutchins> kunji: You can also assign consoles to the other function keys.  Common practice used to be to dump the syslog to VT12.
[19:22] <vjacob> in other words I just don't want them to be assigned in X
[19:23] <vjacob> and also I would like that I'm allowed to switch to the console
[19:23] <kunji> jhutchins: Where are they assigned though, it shouldn't be in the Xsession at all, because they're accessible from outside of that.
[19:24] <vjacob> well thanks kunji and jhutchins for chipping in
[19:24] <jhutchins> kunji: I think getty sources the keymap files.  I'd have to look up what files it and X actually use.
[19:24] <jhutchins> vjacob: Ctrl-Alt-F1 should take you to console.
[19:24] <jhutchins> vjacob: How you go about assigning hotkeys varies with the desktop you use, I don't use the current Ubuntu defaults.
[19:24] <vjacob> jhutchins, does not (I have tried more than 5 times)
[19:25] <vjacob> jhutchins, might it be a property of ubuntu-server default install?
[19:25] <LiThiuME3> Hey
[19:25] <BigC85> Hey everyone is anyone familiar w/ the touchpad gestures in 12.10 every time I try a three finger gesture when I put three fingers on the trackpad the Dash opens any ideas?`
[19:26] <kunji> BigC85: I am not familiar with them, have some patience, one should normally wait about 15 minutes or so before asking again.
[19:27] <LiThiuME3> Anyone familiar with compiling lftp with openssl on 12.04 I getting errors when I Make :S
[19:27] <Dizzle> does anyone know of a tool , plugin , something of the sort that can on the fly normalize audio output across the whole system? so like if i have 2 video files and a game with way different volume levels and i play them it adjusts to a set "perceived volume"?
[19:27] <BigC85> sorry for repeating I will control myself from now on ;)
[19:29] <vjacob> Dizzle, isn't that what Pulse or JACK does?
[19:29] <vjacob> or allows
[19:30] <Dizzle> vjacob: no idea thats why im asking? are those packages i can apt-get?
[19:30] <oyvind81> laser
[19:30] <vjacob> Dizzle, that was a rhetorical question I'm afraid :)
[19:30] <vjacob> I guess it was more of a hint or an idea
[19:31] <LiThiuME3> :S
[19:32] <vjacob> LiThiuME3, no me. Is there are good reason you have to get it compiling rather than using a packaged binary?
[19:32] <vjacob> -are +a -no +not :)
[19:37] <kunji> Dizzle: JACK is primarily for those that need low latency in their audio input output, but it could be useful for that.  The Medibuntu people are likely to be much more knowledgeable on the subject.
[19:38] <kunji> Dizzle: You can apt-get it, I think a GUI that uses it is jackd
[19:38] <Dizzle> kunji: im reading pulse audio is default now in ubuntu , is there a quick way to see if thats what im running?
[19:38] <Dizzle> kunji: looks like pulse may be more simple for what i need
[19:40] <kunji> Dizzle: You should be running it unless you've already been messing with your sound, it may do what you want.  Have you looked at the sound settings, and then the applications tab, it should show running applications that are outputting sound and you should be able to adjust the volume of each there.
[19:41] <Dizzle> kunji: my problem isnt nessicarly different applications but different media files within the same application
[19:41] <Gnea> Dizzle: if you're already running Ubuntu, you're already using pulse
[19:42] <Hwkiller> Dizzle: hmm... there is a way to normalize volume in pulse
[19:42] <LiThiuME3> aahhhhhh vjacod left :|
[19:42] <LiThiuME3> :(
[19:42] <Hwkiller> I think you have to make a custom sink and route all audio to it; unfortunately I don't recall how to do that
[19:43] <kunji> Dizzle: Oh, different ones in the same application, the application needs to do it's own leveling then.  Are you playing them at the same time, or going track to track?
[19:43] <BluesKaj_> Dizzle, then you need ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:43] <Dizzle> kunji: track to track , and the software wont do it thats why im looking for a system wide solution
[19:43] <Dizzle> BluesKaj_: ubuntu-restricted-extras for what?
[19:43] <kunji> Dizzle: Which software won't do it?  There are ones that will.
[19:44] <Dizzle> xbmc kunji
[19:44] <BluesKaj_> Dizzle, various media file extentions
[19:44] <Dizzle> it has dynamic range compression for individual tracks but not track to track
[19:44] <kunji> Dizzle: Ah, doesn't xbmc use different players for different filetypes?  Or at least it can, not sure if that's default behavior.
[19:44] <BluesKaj_> er extensions
[19:45] <Dizzle> kunji: audio is going to output over the same device though
[19:45] <kunji> BluesKaj_: That's the issue here
[19:45] <kunji> Dizzle: Indeed, so I see why you're looking for a system wide solution now
[19:46] <BluesKaj_> kunji, ok , carry on
[19:46] <Dizzle> kunji: do you think pulse would be easier to setup than jack , id prefer command line if possible
[19:47] <kunji> BluesKaj_: Well, I don't know if you were going somewhere else with that, but he isn't having problems playing files, he is trying to level sound between them when it may be different apps playing them.
[19:48] <BluesKaj_> use vlc , it plays practically every media file
[19:49] <kunji> Dizzle: I'm not sure, I have use jack mainly through the jackd GUI and I have not found it to be stable, which is I believe why Ubuntu (and most other distros) uses Pulse.  The medibuntu folks use jack though because they need the low latency for mixing and whatnot.
[19:49] <kunji> *used
[19:49] <Dizzle> BluesKaj_: um that defeats the purpose....
[19:49] <Dizzle> BluesKaj_: are you even paying attention
[19:50] <kunji> BluesKaj_: He's trying to do it for XBMC, though configuring XBMC to use VLC for all playback might be possible.
[19:50] <BluesKaj_> Dizzle, sorry guess i came in the middle of something
[19:50] <Dizzle> im not trying to play a vast array of media files , im trying to do system wide volume normalization
[19:51] <BluesKaj_> thought xbmc had a normilze all audio levels option , Dizzle
[19:51] <kunji> BluesKaj_: That's just what I was thinking about
[19:52] <Dizzle> BluesKaj_: no that just sets all files to the same db , but many files have been encoded differently so that db point isnt the same "percieved volume" across multiple files
[19:53] <kunji> BluesKaj_: I think it may depend on the platform though, and I've never tried using it.  For instance, playback on a Raspberry Pi is done with omxplayer, whereas I'm not actually sure what it uses in a standard x86 install, maybe mplayer?
[19:53] <Dizzle> like some stuff is way lower than others when encoded , so if i set the system to -3db one file may be loud while the other is quite even though they have the "same" db level
[19:53] <Dizzle> quiet*
[19:54] <LiThiuME3> anyone familiar with lftp compiling with openssl ?
[19:54] <kunji> Dizzle: Applications have no concept of perceived volume, it varies within the same track -_-, e.g. anything by Beethoven
[19:55] <Dizzle> kunji: i realize that , what im trying to do is system wid e, not by application...
[19:55] <Dizzle> lets say i have a volume value of 1-100 one file is at 45 one is at 80 , i want a max value of 75 and anything below 60 i want boosted to 75 etc
[19:56] <kunji> Dizzle: No I mean, the computer in general has no concept of that, the only way you could manage that is with some custom work and it would require input from a mic to measure that.
[19:56] <kunji> Dizzle: that's exatly the dB levels you were referring to though
[19:56] <kunji> *exactly
[19:56] <BluesKaj_> unless the audio is run thru an audio mixer that set a particular db level in real term
[19:56] <BluesKaj_> terms
[19:57] <Dizzle> in theory wouldnt pulse be the mixere?
[19:57] <Dizzle> mixer*
[19:57] <BluesKaj_> pulse is just a processer layer
[19:58] <kunji> I think BluesKaj_ means a physical mixer, but yes Pulse is a mixer in the software sense of the word.
[19:58] <BluesKaj_> kunji, no there are software mixers available
[19:59] <kunji> BluesKaj_:Well, pulse is one then, though it may not offer that particular functionality
[19:59] <BluesKaj_> but most a re PITA to uyse
[20:00] <Dizzle> i just want 3 reference levels , one lo w, med , and high , if file x is too low boost to medium , if file is too high lower to medium
[20:00] <quick-> Hi can anyone pleas guide me how to install simon in 12.04 ?
[20:00] <kunji> Dizzle: Anyway, I think the Medibuntu people will know more, many of them play with the advanced sound stuff on a regular basis and a fair number do audio work for a living.
[20:01] <Dizzle> kunji: im an audio engineer heh
[20:01] <Dizzle> maybe i can use smart in some way to help with the reference level
[20:02] <kunji> Dizzle: Ah, explains why you want this, I would actually recommend just switching to Medibuntu entirely then.
[20:02] <Dizzle> kunji: ill look into it thanks for the help
[20:02] <Dizzle> kunji: do you know if they have an irc channel?
[20:02] <kunji> Dizzle: #medibuntu
[20:03] <kunji> Dizzle: On this server
[20:03] <Dizzle> thanks
[20:04] <airdem> i finally was able to install mint. but my password does not work. what went wrong?
[20:04] <airdem> thankfully i had enabled autologin but i cant run sudo
[20:04] <bekks> !mint | airdem
[20:04] <BluesKaj_> Dizzle, are you using digital/spdif out?  then alsamixer cyrls seem to do the job in terms of peceived levels on my setup at least
[20:04] <airdem> thank you bekks
[20:04] <airdem> lol thats a dead channel :P
[20:04] <Dizzle> BluesKaj_: unfortunately no :(
[20:05] <bekks> airdem: That doesnt make us support Mint, though ;)
[20:05] <airdem> hehehe
[20:07] <kunji> Dizzle: Ah, sorry, I kept saying Medibuntu... I meant Ubuntu Studio, #ubuntustudio  my bad
[20:08] <Dizzle> kunji: thanks
[20:13] <jhutchins> airdem: One of the reasons not to use mint is that it doesn't have good irc support.  The mint channels on other networks like oftc might be better.
[20:14] <flow__> jhutchins, it's very lightweight, and it also looks goodish ...
[20:15] <quick-> Hi , Can you please tell me hoe to install simon for 12.04 ?
[20:16] <m0ntra> Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to access your Windows 7 drive files from a ubuntu 12.10 installation?
[20:16] <m0ntra> I installed using wubi
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[20:18] <nizor> HELP PLS *New Bee* Just installed 12.04 on ma system.....i'm like 1 month old on Linux Ubuntu.....whats necessary steps for me to take?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> nizor  to achieve what?
[20:19] <martinux> I am trying to install SML/NJ, and adding it to my path in ~/.profile. When i am in my installations /bin folder i can run './sml' to get the interactive prompt, but even though the folder is added to my path (for sure) i still have to be in that folder to make the command work. 'sml' or 'smlnj' does not work either. ubuntu 12.04 by the way
[20:20] <user82_> hello. i am using two displays. when i have a fullscreen video on #2 and the cursor in a window in #1 it shows me the top status bar in screen #2 with the video- can i change this
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> nizor  keep it in the channel, please
[20:21] <nizor> ok
[20:21] <nizor> i have locked wireless close to me...cannot connect...any help....i design so also need corel draw and photoshop on my Linux OS
[20:21] <auronandace> !manual | nizor
[20:22] <nizor> auronandace : on it *manual*
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> nizor  type !wifi for information about wireless connections -- ubuntu has GIMP, blender and inkscape
[20:23] <m0ntra> nevermind...quick little reference for anyone who wants a simple solution to what I asked about
[20:23] <m0ntra> https://sites.google.com/a/landymann.co.uk/landy-mann-online/tech-tips/keeping-windows-7-and-wubi-folders-synced
[20:23] <nizor> monkeyDust  type wifi where?
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> !wifi > nizor
[20:24] <kunji> nizor: You're saying you want to break into someone else's wireless?  That sort of activity is not supported nor condoned here.
[20:24] <nizor> MonkeyDust GIMPm blender and blender and inkspace can do what for me?
[20:25] <nizor> ubottu : on it *wifidocs*
[20:25] <nizor> ubottu :)
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> nizor  graphics
[20:26] <kunji> nizor: They are alternatives to Corel and Photoshop that are native to linux, I do not believe Corel makes a version for linux, and I know that Adobe does not make a version of photoshop for linux.  It may be possible to run them under WINE though.
[20:26] <nizor> ok
[20:27] <nizor> kunji on  it for WINE...leme download
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> nizor  guess this is a useful link http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[20:27]  * TXRoadkill is away: Off to find a shrubbery...
[20:27] <nizor> kunji have an idea on the software size
[20:28] <kunji> nizor: I'm saying it might be possible under WINE, I have no idea if it will actually work or not (I haven't tried those programs before under WINE), and even if it does work, it might be only with a particular version of WINE, it's probably best to ask the WINE people about it, or even better, do some googling on it first.
[20:28] <leonce> hi, compiz(12.10/12.04) does not run properly with my atom n2600 (gma 3600) any ideas???
[20:29] <nizor> kunji ok
[20:30] <kunji> leonce: Nope, but even someone that is knowledgeable on the subject would probably need more details than that, can you find any  error messages in the logs or anything?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> nizor  tip: give yourself some time to un-learn windows and get familiar with ubuntu
[20:30] <nizor> MonkeyDust How long? also Ubuntu is almost totally internet driven! xpensive in my country
[20:31] <nizor> Enjoy it sha MonkeyDust
[20:32] <leonce> it allways uses at least 30% cpu in top, slows down the machine. not sure where to look tbh, my guess is the graphics driver i have no idea where to look for what
[20:33] <leonce> at first it didn't start, went in console to update now it is slow.l
[20:35] <nizor> passworded wireless close by me...any idea?
[20:35] <area51pilot> I can browse a Windows NT Domain network but when I try to browse a network I get unable to retrieve a list from the server?
[20:35] <area51pilot> this used to work in 10.10 no issues
[20:37] <raub> Shouldn't the reverse zone entry (in named.conf.local) for <IP_ADDRESS>/27 look something like zone "64-<IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa" IN { [...] }; ?
[20:39] <leonce> see if i could get a link to where i can check on the graphics drivers version/developer status, that would be very helpfull
[20:41] <daftykins> leonce: if it's the latest ubuntu and fully updated, but compiz is still performing badly, you're likely out of luck
[20:41] <daftykins> especially for the graphics on an atom
[20:41] <Eagleman> I want to make offsite backups to one of my external servers, i think the sftp protocol is the best for copying files once a week. Is it smart to use the credentials and mount the remote sftp folder as local folder ?
[20:42] <daftykins> Eagleman: doubt it. looked into rsync?
[20:42] <raub> daftykins: that is what I would suggest myself: rsync. Can even do incremental madness with it
[20:42] <Eagleman> daftykins rsnapshot yes, however i am running a tar file of weekly.0 and then copy it to multiple locations, and one of that should become my remote server
[20:43] <daftykins> i find the natural aim to try and mount such remote dests a bit of a mistake
[20:43] <Eagleman> I currently have rsnapshot running on my external disk, and since i have only 9.5 GB on my remote server, its not smart to rsnapshot then
[20:43] <Quest> what are the different foip fax over ip software available in ubuntu?
[20:43] <leonce> thank you, i can live with that, time to install a new WindowManager without compiz, let's see wheree the journey ends bye :)
[20:44] <quick-> hi can ayone tell me alternatives od camtesia studio for ubuntu ?
[20:44] <Eagleman> daftykins, How do you get the file there without mounting it then?
[20:45] <kunji> leonce: You can turn it off with the same window manager I believe, if not, there is still a way to force use of Ubuntu 2d
[20:45] <kunji> leonce; err, I mean Unity 2d
[20:45] <daftykins> Eagleman: scp with key based SSH auth i guess
[20:46] <Eagleman> daftykins, it used a key to login. transfer the files, once done, it logs out, and then does the same next week ?
[20:46] <Eagleman> used=uses
[20:46] <gustav__> lol. What's the migration process?
[20:47] <kunji> Eagleman: You can do rsync over ssh with keys, set the task to happen each week with cron
[20:47] <nizor> Need Beginners and Advanced tutorial on the Terminal usage or maybe Python
[20:47] <leonce> kunji: unity 2d removed from 12.10 ... but thank you anyway
[20:48] <Eagleman> kunji, i already have rsync. i only want ONE weekly in a tar archive to the remote location
[20:48] <Quest> what are the different foip fax over ip software available in ubuntu?
[20:48] <kunji> leonce: I know, but you can still force it, I think with a directive in xorg.conf?  I saw something this morning, lemme see if I can find it
[20:48] <daftykins> Eagleman: never looked into it. i think it's do-able though
[20:49] <Eagleman> daftykins, the tar file is also encrypted. I know what i want, the only thing missing is on how to do it
[20:49] <kunji> Eagleman: Yeah, you can use rsync over the ssh connection once a week to just send the changes to the remote location
[20:49] <kunji> Eagleman: cron will automate that.
[20:49] <Eagleman> Ow god
[20:49] <kunji> Eagleman: I'll see if I can find you the guide I used for it
[20:50] <Leon_Lizard> !ai
[20:50] <Leon_Lizard> does anyone know a program i can view ai files in?
[20:50] <bekks> Leon_Lizard: Adobe Illustrator.
[20:50] <Leon_Lizard> in linux.
[20:50] <daftykins> Adobe in Linux? ruh-roh
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> does adobe port programs to linux?
[20:52] <bekks> No.
[20:52] <bekks> No, besides Flash.
[20:53] <kunji> Eagleman: http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html  Though you might want to read other resources on each piece of the puzzle if you're unfamiliar, such as for cron.  Since you just want weekly you should be able to just put it in cron.weekly rather than using the crontab.
[20:53] <kunji> Leon_Lizard: Inkscape is probably the best bet, but I'm thinking it won't work T.T
[20:54] <kunji> MonkeyDust: Only Flash
[20:54] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: sure, adobe flash, adobe acrobat
[20:55] <DJones> Leon_Lizard: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#What_formats_can_Inkscape_import.2Fexport.3F Says Inkscape can import .ai files
[20:55] <fujoor> hey guys, is it possible to install nautilus 3.6.2 on ubuntu 12.04.1
[20:55] <iceroot> !info nautilus precise
[20:56] <fujoor> or do i have to have ubuntu 12.10 to install it?
[20:56] <iceroot> fujoor: maybe with a ppa
[20:56] <kunji> DJones: Score, I guess my guess was right-ish, except that it does work
[20:56] <iceroot> fujoor: why you need 3.6.2?
[20:56] <DJones> kunji: Yep, good guess :)
[20:56] <fujoor> iceroot: i added the ppa, but it says it already has the newest version installed
[20:56] <fujoor> iceroot: because it looks fancy :D
[20:57] <fujoor> iceroot: no seriously, it looks good and im curious to try it,
[20:57] <Quest> what are the different foip fax over ip software available in ubuntu?
[20:58] <dingo311> i have two folders that are highlighted green. ls -l revels different permissions but sudo chmod go=rx does not change perms...help
[20:59] <iceroot> !info nautilus quantal
[21:00] <iceroot> fujoor: 12.10 does not have 3.6 too
[21:00] <fujoor> iceroot: i know, 13.04 has, but there was a guide on how to install it on 12.10
[21:00] <fujoor> iceroot: which i tried, but it wouldnt work on 12.04
[21:00] <jeff4> how do i uninstall grub without using fixmbr?
[21:01] <fujoor> iceroot: ohwell, guess i have to live with it :)
[21:01] <fujoor> iceroot, thanks anyway
[21:01] <jeff4> i want to go back to the windows boot manager but everything online says to use fixmbr
[21:01] <jeff4> my disk is gpt though
[21:01] <bekks> jeff4: You have to use fixmbr
[21:02] <jeff4> bekks: also its windows 8 which does not boot with mbr on uefi
[21:02] <jeff4> only gpt
[21:02] <bekks> jeff4: So, basically, thats a windows problem, isnt it - "reinstall the windows bootloader"?
[21:03] <jeff4> bekks: partially; but i want to know how to remove grub while in ubuntu
[21:03] <kunji> jeff4: I was under the impression that it does use mbr, and it fact uses the same bootloader as Windows 7, just that it goes through UEFI first.
[21:03] <kunji> *in
[21:04] <bekks> jeff4: sudp apt-get remove ... - which does not touch any mbr or whatsoever.
[21:04] <jeff4_> sorry dced 30 seconds ago
[21:04] <jeff4_> did i miss anything?
[21:04] <kunji> jeff4: I was under the impression that it does use mbr, and in fact uses the same bootloader as Windows 7, just that it goes through UEFI first.
[21:04] <iceroot> jeff4_: you have to use fixmbr because you need to write the windows stuff to the MBR
[21:05] <iceroot> jeff4_: grub deleted the windows stuff, so you need fixmbr to restore it
[21:05] <zyngawow> Can anyone help with RT3092 not working after a reboot? it worked with a fresh installed, now it doesnt after reboot.
[21:05] <jeff4_> iceroot: "On EFI systems, windows can only be installed to GPT disks"
[21:05] <jeff4_> does fixmbr keep gpt if its already gpt?
[21:05] <iceroot> jeff4_: ah ok, luckily i never saw a windows 8 or UEFI system
[21:05] <zyngawow> I tried the 4th post here, no luck. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1573370
[21:06] <Helvetin> Hello. Did anyone ever use s3cmd? If yes, how was your experience with it?
[21:07] <leonce> ok i found all the answers on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Poulsbo no 3D support in the driver ... found nothing on unity 2D, i will update.
[21:08] <dingo311> i have two folders that are highlighted green. ls -l revels different permissions but sudo chmod go=rx does not change perms...help
[21:08] <JPeterson> `sudo do-release-upgrade` hanged at `* Removing open-vm-tools modules`
[21:10] <LiquidDemocracy> Is there a program with which one can create professional DVD covers?
[21:10] <kunji> jeff4: The mbr doesn't care if it's gpt or not as far as I know... Is there a problem with GRUB loading windows for you?
[21:11] <jeff4_> kunji: gpt doesn't have mbr afaik?
[21:11] <AaronMT> Random question, anyone know which program this is (green icon with # in a chat bubble), http://i.imgur.com/z3RVxfd.png
[21:12] <jeff4> i thought gpt was entirely a replacement of mbr
[21:12] <kunji> jeff4_: Yes it does have one, how were you planning to boot?
[21:12] <jeff4> i have a windows partition that bootrec /scanos detects fine
[21:13] <jeff4> and bootrec /fixboot says operation completed successfully but grub is still there
[21:14] <jeff4> kunji: i was planning to boot using gpt instead of mbr because win8 doesnt support mbr on efi
[21:15] <Leon_Lizard> !wine
[21:16] <pngl> I can't get my webcam to work under 12.04 - guvcview says "Unable to start with minimal setup - please reconnect your camera". My webcam is integrated into my laptop. The model (using lsusb) is Syntex Sonix USB 2.0 Camera.
[21:17] <pngl> (Also, the command-line of guvcview says "device or resource busy")
[21:19] <kunji> jeff4: I'm reading the spec now, but I don't see why GRUB should fail with GPT
[21:19] <PetiteMoufette> !gnome
[21:19] <socomm> Hey guys can any one tell me what the default font is on firefox?
[21:19] <socomm> I changed my font and now it looks like crap
[21:19] <kewel> I installed 10.04 on an old machine last night, and it runs alright..  however, looking back, I wonder if I should have used ext2 instead of ext4 (default) .. any input?
[21:20] <PetiteMoufette> hmm purge unity
[21:20] <kewel> PIII 1GHz 512MB .. gonna check out lubuntu when I get a cdr
[21:20] <PetiteMoufette> !purge unity
[21:20] <zyngawow> Can anyone help with RT3092 not working after a reboot? it worked with a fresh installed, now it doesnt after reboot.
[21:20] <zyngawow> I tried the 4th post here, no luck. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1573370
[21:20] <socomm> Hey guys can any one tell me what the default font is on firefox?
[21:20] <socomm> I changed my font and now it looks like crap
[21:21] <LiquidDemocracy> Is there a program with which one can create professional DVD covers?
[21:21] <kunji> jeff4: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:22] <Guest470> mel
[21:22] <This> Hi guys. Does anyone know the apt-get command for the disk utility tool?
[21:22] <ross410> need help big time. So I was in Hirens mini-xp and I was trying to get it to recognize my second hard drive and I clicked update driver. Now I can no longer see this drive! BIOS still sees the drive just fine. Wat do?
[21:23] <socomm> Hey guys can any one tell me what the default font is on firefox?
[21:23] <socomm> I changed my font and now it looks like crap
[21:23] <k1l_> !patience | socomm
[21:24] <k1l_> !rootirc > This
[21:24] <k1l_> This: what do you mean with "the apt-get command for the disk utility tool" ?
[21:24] <This> socomm http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/758488
[21:26] <kewel> is there a reason to use ext2 instead of ext4 on an old machine?
[21:26] <bekks> kewel: No.
[21:27] <This> I want to use terminal to do apt-get install (the program that comes up when you search Ubuntu for disc utility)
[21:27] <ross410> i am so screwed if I cant get that hd back. i dont want to resort to recuva if i dont have to
[21:27] <kewel> bekks: awesome thanks =P
[21:28] <k1l_> This: "gnome-disk-utility"
[21:28] <This> kil_: Thank you.
[21:28] <bencc> what tools can I use to sandbox an executable?
[21:28] <bencc> I've found libsandbox with deb package but it's not on the official repos http://sourceforge.net/projects/libsandbox/
[21:28] <k1l_> This: if you are not familiar with "apt-cache search" you can use the website packages.ubuntu.com
[21:28] <bencc> not sure I can trust it
[21:28] <Labradoodle> Hello I just installed LAMP server on my ubuntu  system. I want to know where is the file where I put my php code. I think it's a www folder or something, anyone know?
[21:28] <kunji> jeff4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table There is an mbr, it seems that it's use is optional, but you might not be able to use that considering your win8 setup, This should provide some insight though: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#UEFI_systems  and these may also be helpful: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub2-does-not-boot-with-gpt-4175414534/  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php
[21:28] <This> Thanks Kil_!
[21:30] <Labradoodle> anyone know where that folder is?
[21:31] <Labradoodle> where I can put the php projects
[21:31] <vladimirsanchez> sorry guys bu the instructions on installing the b43-fwcutter are simply ridiculous...
[21:32] <vladimirsanchez> how am I going to 'apt-get' it if my wifi doesn't work?
[21:32] <k1l_> Labradoodle: /var/www ?
[21:32] <rmbell> Labradoodle:  simple google search would have helped you, /var/www
[21:32] <kunji> vladimirsanchez: Umm, I thought you could do an apt-get for that now?  lol, oh, use a wired connection
[21:32] <k1l_> vladimirsanchez: ever thought of putting a lan cable in it?
[21:32] <Labradoodle> ok thanks, I did google but I didn't find it
[21:32] <vladimirsanchez> didn't...
[21:32] <vladimirsanchez> =[
[21:32] <vladimirsanchez> silly me...
[21:33] <vladimirsanchez> thks guys... =P
[21:35] <zyngawow> Can someone please help me with my WiFi not working after a reboot but working on a fresh install?(i guess it downloaded the driver it shouldnt? My WiFi card is a RT3092
[21:37] <_val_> Hi there. After upgrading to gnome 3.6 the keybindings have changed. I used to press ALT+left mouse-button to drag a certain button but now Super-key has taken the functionality of ALT.
[21:37] <_val_> I've tried gconf-editor, dconf-toos/editor  etc... nothing which helps
[21:38] <dbrom> hello Having a issue with a freenas install anyone here
[21:39] <Lars_G_> Hello all.
[21:39] <dbrom> I am back
[21:39] <ross410> anyone know? It seems that the drive is unformatted but it is not. Maybe I could use fsck?
[21:40] <kunji> _val_: you mean gnome shell?... sorry I've only used Unity with Ubuntu, I don't really know my way around Gnome 3.  Is that handled by compiz though?
[21:40] <k1l_> dbrom: better ask the freenas support
[21:40] <jeff4> i fixed my problem by copying the bootmgfw.efi and bootmgr.efi files from the extra copies of it i found in my windows install
[21:41] <_val_> kunji: no there is no compiz
[21:41] <jeff4> fixmbr wouldve bricked my install
[21:41] <_val_> just gnome-shell
[21:41] <Lars_G_> Quick question, I've just upgraded a 10 lts to a 12.04 lts, inside a xen DomU, I had some fights with the thing, finally it boots, but during boot I have an error about /tmp not being started because the fs type is missing (error passed I'm trying to find it to see if I can copy) and thus mount all failed, should I a) regenerate the initrd, b) add /tmp (type tmpfs) on fstab, c) something else?
[21:41] <kunji> ross410: What was the issue again, I missed your original question.
[21:41] <k1l_> _val_: you are sure the 3rd party upgrade to 3.6 didnt break that?
[21:41] <jeff4> ubuntu is still showing up in my efi boot list though even after resetting all bcd stuff and deleting all traces of ubuntu in my efi partition
[21:42] <kunji> jeff4: It wouldn't have bricked it, it just wouldn't have done anything, there is space reserved for the mbr whether or not it is used.
[21:42] <jeff4> kunji: oh good to know
[21:42] <_val_> k1l_: I wish I knew. There is no compiz installed so there is no 3rd party package installed
[21:42] <ross410> I was in Hirens mini-xp and I was trying to get it to see my second hard drive so I clicked "update driver" for that hard drive in device manager and now the drive looks like it is unformatted, tho it is not
[21:42] <jeff4> i was just really afraid it would try to convert the gpt to mbr
[21:42] <ross410> kunji, ^^
[21:42] <k1l_> _val_: which ubuntu do you use and how did you upgrade on gnome 3.6?
[21:43] <kunji> jeff4: Nah, see the protective MBR stuff here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[21:43] <_val_> k1l_: I'm not using ubuntu just gnome-shell on fedora.. but since fedora has no answer I thought there might be one here :) I know!
[21:43] <_val_> don't hit me.
[21:43] <jeff4> kunji: anyways thanks for the help at least
[21:43] <jeff4> cya
[21:43] <k1l_> _val_: m(
[21:43] <ross410> kunji, lots of important data on there (my 9 year olds entire life of pics)
[21:44] <kunji> ross410: So you're looking for the drive using Ubuntu right now?  What is the output of sudo fdisk -l   ? Do you see your partition there?
[21:44] <_val_> k1l_: I don't know what key binding command left mous button posesses.
[21:44] <leonce> done! i installed GDM and gnome-shell and unistalled unity. it works like a charm, good old gnome. i used a german tutorial.
[21:45] <ross410> kunji, here is the important lines - Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>016 bytes
[21:45] <ross410> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
[21:45] <ross410> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[21:45] <ross410> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[21:45] <ross410> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[21:45] <ross410> Disk identifier: 0xb633d4dd
[21:45] <FloodBot1> ross410: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:45] <kunji> leonce: maybe you can comment on the problem _val_ is having then?
[21:45] <Shev> Hi! neebie here, how can i connect to a PySide channel?
[21:46] <Lars_G_> Shev: /join #pyside
[21:46] <leonce> what problem does _val_ have?
[21:46] <Lars_G_> Shev: Not sure if it exists...
[21:46] <Shev> Thanks!
[21:46] <Shev> ok
[21:46] <Lars_G_> Shev: It does
[21:46] <Shev> in the pyside webpage, its says they have a channel on freenode
[21:46] <kunji> ross410: Ok, so there are no lines for the partitions, aka /dev/sdb1 with the types of paritions?
[21:47] <Lars_G_> Shev: Yeah use that command, dont leave spaces before the /
[21:47] <Shev> ok
[21:47] <Shev> thanks!
[21:47] <Fuchs> Shev: you need to be identified with nickserv for that, though
[21:47] <OerHeks> Lars_G_,  upgrade in xen, is this your own  local server or from a provider ? maybe they can provide you with a 12.04 image
[21:47] <Fuchs> Shev: do you have an account here already?
[21:47] <_val_> leonce: what ALT+left-mouse-key supposed to do, now  super-key+left-mous-key does the job. I didn't ask for that change and it's quite annoying.
[21:47] <kunji> ross410: Or that might be it if there is only one partition for the whole disk, but the partition type should be there then.
[21:47] <Fuchs> Shev: if not: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup or /msg nickserv help register  for the short version
[21:47] <ross410> kunji, That disk has no partitions
[21:47] <k1l_> kunji: i dont think we can help with fedora problems here. they should be supported in the fedora channel
[21:48] <Lars_G_> OerHeks: My own server. it is upgraded already.
[21:48] <k1l_> _val_: there is a big difference in that on ubuntu and fedora. please keep it to the fedora support
[21:48] <_val_> k1l_: totally agree. I thought there is some general setting concerning gnome
[21:48] <Lars_G_> OerHeks: I am using -default-pae which I will change to -virtual eventually, I'm in pv mode, yet I need only to solve this /tmp diatribe for now
[21:49] <ross410> kunji, yeah looks like it doesnt list the partiton type for that disk onlu
[21:49] <kunji> ross410: No partitions, or the whole thing is one partition, in the first case you're going to need to do the file recovery stuff... which I am unfortunately unfamiliar with.  In the second case, we need to know what the partition type is so we can mount it with the right driver.
[21:49] <OerHeks> Lars_G_, did 12.04 give you a PAE kernel too ?
[21:49] <ross410> kumo, it was ntfs
[21:49] <kunji> k1l_: Oh, sorry, who was using Debian again?
[21:49] <Lars_G_> OerHeks: Yes, I'm on the default-pae on 12.04
[21:50] <Lars_G_> OerHeks: 3.2.0-36 I think
[21:50] <Lars_G_>  3.2.0-36-generic-pae
[21:50] <k1l_> kunji: i dont think we need to discuss this here :/
[21:50] <zzach> With    socat TCP4-LISTEN:port1,fork,reuseaddr SYSTEM:" sed -u -e 's/pattern1/pattern2/g' | (socat - TCP4:localhost:port2 )"      it is possible to modify client->server traffic with socat (browser access to port1, real server listening at port2). Do other socat options exist in order to also modify traffic in other (server->client) direction?
[21:50] <kunji> k1l_: pm me then
[21:50] <_val_> lol @ kunji ^^
[21:51] <konam> is there a safe way to remove a kernel?
[21:51] <_val_> Yeah, I don't fancy eye-candy but they should have kept things consistent
[21:51] <OerHeks> Lars_G_, oke, i am not sure howto fix your /tmp but i wondered "about /tmp not being started because the fs type is missing (error passed " what error exactly ?
[21:51] <konam> the last kernel update for 12.10 broke a functionality i need
[21:51] <_val_> not change ALT function to Super-key
[21:52] <zyngawow> Please, I need help.. I've tried everything on the internet and nothing worked.. I think I know what my issue is, but I dont know how to resolve it.. I have a RT3092 wifi card and it does not detect any networks and is stated as unavailable. I think the issue is that linux downloaded an incorrect driver, that would explain why it worked on a fresh install but it doesnt now.
[21:52] <Lars_G_> OerHeks: Let me see if dmesg has it, I think the error is pre-root rotation so I'm not sure
[21:52] <k1l_> konam: remove the linux-image- from that kernel. but keep atleast one kernel :)
[21:53] <ross410> kunji, so to sum it up the disk is all one partition and the file system is ntfs, although fdisk does not show this.
[21:53] <konam> k1l_ yeah, i just want to remove the last one because it is the one being point to by the "ubuntu" on the grub main menu... can i make grub point to one of the older ones by default?
[21:53] <toni_> hola
[21:53] <toni_> buenas noches
[21:54] <kunji> ross410: Does sudo parted -l  show it?
[21:54] <ross410> kumo, yes
[21:54] <marko__> hi to all
[21:54] <leonce> _val_: gnome-control-center - keyboard - shortcut, i gues you checked that?
[21:54] <k1l_> konam: im not an expert in grub2 scripts but that should be possible
[21:54] <Lars_G_> OerHeks: Ok does it help if I translate? It's in spanish.
[21:55] <_val_> leonce: sure. Move Windows  <ALT+F7>  but how would that be changed to  <ALT+left_mous_key>
[21:55] <konam> i'm changing the default one but it just seems to point to the menu entries outside of the "advanced" options
[21:55] <_val_> that's the question
[21:55] <OerHeks> Lars_G_, just use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[21:55] <Lars_G_> OerHeks: it's roughly: "The driver for disc /tmp is not ready or not available, continue waiting? press S to skip, or M to recover manually"
[21:55] <ross410> kumo, it says the partition table is msdos
[21:55] <Lars_G_> driver could be "controller" as well
[21:56] <Guest98460> hola
[21:56] <ross410> kunji, it says the partition table is msdos
[21:56] <kunji> _val_: Oh you're the one on Fedora -_-, yeah, Fedora has their own support.. for some reason I was thinking you installed gnome-shell on Ubuntu.
[21:57] <leonce> beats me no clue
[21:57] <kunji> ross410: It doesn't have a line like this from my system for an NTFS drive: 1      1049kB  1000GB  1000GB  primary  ntfs         boot
[21:57] <kunji> ross410: ?
[21:58] <ross410> kunji, that disk is the only one that doesnt have that line. parted says the table is msdos
[22:00] <OerHeks> Lars_G_, oke i found this when / does not mount correctly from 10.04 to 12.04.1 ( note the .1) maybe you just have to mount your /tmp manually and continue the upgrade >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/168485/the-disk-drive-for-is-not-ready-yet-or-not-present-message-on-boot
[22:00] <Note> .1
[22:00] <OerHeks> Lars_G_,  i hope this applies to your xen image too
[22:01] <_val_> leonce: that was the case indeed.
[22:03] <Lars_G_> OerHeks: I'll check, thank you very much
[22:05] <kunji> ross410: Hmm, well, we can try mounting it, but I really don't want to tell you accidentally to do anything that might make things worse.  How about we try mounting it read only?  mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb path/to/mountpoint       You can create a mountpoint first if you don't have one, for instance mkdir /media/NTFSDrive
[22:08] <kunji> ross410: If that doesn't work, then the drive has some issues and you should hold out for help from someone that really knows file recovery well and do not do anything that might write to the drive.
[22:08] <kunji> ross410: Unless explicitly told to by the expert
[22:09] <ross410> kunji, says ntfs signature is missing
[22:10] <orudie> hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 with two monitors. When I switch between desktop spaces (with "ctrl+alt left, right), it shifts two desktop spaces left or right. Is there a way so that it shifts only one workspace, instead of two ?
[22:11] <kunji> ross410: And even then maybe not, I don't think it should need to written to at all for recovery, but then again, I'm not an expert on it
[22:12] <ross410> kunji, says the ntfs signature is missing
[22:12] <kunji> ross410: mmk, hold out for help from someone that knows more than me then, sorry I don't know more
[22:14] <sander__> Do any brand ship servers preinstalled with ubuntu?
[22:14] <marko__s> got problems in skype with sound
[22:15] <ross410> kunji, ok, thanks
[22:16] <wjtaylor> I installed 12.04 from usb stick, but it put the boot loader on the usb stick instead of the hdd... how can I move it?
[22:16] <Guest81621> Whats wrong with the sound?
[22:17] <escott> !grub | wjtaylor
[22:17] <Guest81621> test
[22:17] <Guest81621> tst
[22:17] <wjtaylor> escott: can you confirm if this is a bug with the installer?
[22:18] <truexfan81> what package contains rst2man? can't find it with aptitude search
[22:18] <marko__s> my microphone is not working in skype
[22:18] <escott> wjtaylor, what difference does it make
[22:19] <marko__s> version is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:19] <wjtaylor> escott: just wanted to know if a bug report should be filed...
[22:20] <escott> wjtaylor, if you have sufficient details to make a meaningful and useful bug report sure
[22:20] <elvinz> hi
[22:20] <truexfan81> nevermind python-docutils has rst2man
[22:20] <elvinz> I would like to delete data on the ubuntuone server
[22:21] <ShawnRisk> how to I make Ubuntu 12.10 unmute sounds on startup?
[22:21] <marko__s> didnt have problems in skype on Mint 13
[22:26] <ezrafree> hello
[22:26] <ezrafree> what's a good MTA that provides virtual users?
[22:27] <ezrafree> could I just use vpopmail with postfix? right now I'm using vpopmail, but with qmail.
[22:27] <pingveno> What's the best way to disable visual effects in Unity at this point?
[22:28] <pingveno> I'm running 12.10 in VirtualBox, so the effects are slowing my computer down.
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> pingveno  try using a less graphically demanding desktop environment (DE)
[22:30] <oscar-juvfc> hi im kind of new , i wanted to know what is the correct way to uninstall abiword via the terminal . I want to use Libreoffice but i read in some place that its not appropriate to unistall a program that came with the distro. I am using xubuntu 12.04
[22:30] <wjtaylor> I used the autoinstaller... does this partition table look right?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1556841/
[22:30] <iDM> I am off to bed
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> oscar-juvfc  sudo apt-get purge abiword
[22:31] <pingveno> MonkeyDust: It's mostly okay. I just need the fading effects to go bye bye
[22:31] <oscar-juvfc> Monkeydust is it better to do it before installing libreoffice ??
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> oscar-juvfc  makes no difference
[22:32] <oscar-juvfc> ok thanks man
[22:32] <jhutchins> wjtaylor: Except for the fact that there's a Windows partition, yeah, looks great.
[22:33] <jhutchins> wjtaylor: You don't need that extended partition, but not worth the work to change.
[22:33] <wjtaylor> jhutchins: that's just a usb stick.
[22:33] <hylian> on skype I can hear the person and they can hear me, but I can't hear voice messages, has anyone dealt with this before?
[22:33] <jhutchins> wjtaylor: That's just me giving you grief.
[22:34] <wjtaylor> jhutchins: Do you know why it starts on 2048?  and why there's a gap between sda1 and sda2?
[22:34] <escott> wjtaylor, can you please use sudo parted -l instead of fdisk
[22:34] <hdhzero> hi, is there any developer here that can give tips on how to implement an interface similar to ubuntu software center using gtk or qt?
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> hdhzero  ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[22:35] <hdhzero> thanks!
[22:36] <quick-> \logout
[22:36] <wjtaylor> escott: ok.  Is fdisk not supported or incompatible?
[22:36] <escott> wjtaylor, fdisk doesnt understand gpt
[22:37] <oscar-juvfc> someone has used laptop-mode-tools and worked on ubuntu 12.04??
[22:38] <jbuncher> Is there anyway a firewall rule would prevent ssh from finding a machine via the name, but still allow it to be found by the IP address?
[22:38] <oscar-juvfc> someone has used laptop-mode-tools and worked on ubuntu 12.04??
[22:38] <jhutchins> wjtaylor: Probably just sector alignment, and a bit extra for the MBR area.
[22:39] <escott> jbuncher, sounds like you need to run a DNS server on your network
[22:39] <hylian> on skype I can hear the person and they can hear me, but I can't hear voice messages, has anyone dealt with this before?
[22:39] <wjtaylor> jhutchins: escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1556863/
[22:40] <escott> wjtaylor, nothing unusual about that partition
[22:40] <wjtaylor> I'm guessing that's why it gpt is why it starts at 1049
[22:40] <wjtaylor> I'm used to MBR....
[22:40] <jbuncher> escott, it used to work (on the campus network), but then I tried to tighten up my firewall rules and I could no longer ssh in via the hostname.  I'm not sure if that's the reason why, but if there's a hole I need to put in the firewall to register with DNS, I'd like to find out what it is.
[22:41] <escott> jbuncher, if you were blocking DNS it would be pretty obvious
[22:42] <escott> jbuncher, you are probably just using the wrong dns server
[22:43] <ericfffff> Trying to follow this.  Manually installed the drivers from the website since 13.1 just came out yesterday.  Then when I go and do the apt-get install under Video Hardware Acceleration it installed fglrx anyway, probably an older one.  I https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:43] <jbuncher> escott, is there something that would prevent my machines from registering their hostnames with the DNS servers?
[22:43] <davidjonez> anyone know why the install file while in a live session won't work?
[22:44] <c_smith> davidjonez, what install file?
[22:46] <wjtaylor> can I change the boot partition with parted?
[22:46] <davidjonez> "Install Xubuntu 12.10" when I execute it nothing happens and when I try it in the terminal I don't have permission but I also forgot the sudo line used to have permission.
[22:47] <escott> jbuncher, the fact that no such registration mechanism exists
[22:47] <jbuncher> escott, well, that would do it.  Now I guess I have to try to figure out the right DNS server.  odd that it just stopped working all of the sudden on two machines though.
[22:48] <c_smith> davidjonez, that's ubiquity, try opening an Terminal and running "ubiquity"
[22:48] <kunji> wjtaylor: I don't see why not
[22:48] <davidjonez> do I run it by just simply putting in ./ubiquity ?
[22:49] <c_smith> if nothing happens there, run "ubiquity -d"
[22:49] <wjtaylor> kunji: do you know the command? I can't boot without external media...
[22:49] <c_smith> davidjonez, no, simply "ubiquity"
[22:49] <c_smith> because the executable is in a folder the system looks in by default.
[22:50] <kunji> wjtaylor: Hmm, I don't know it off hand, do you have access to a GUI, I'm guessing you're using the liveCD no?  So why not use gparted?
[22:50] <c_smith> davidjonez, did that work?
[22:51] <wjtaylor> kunji: I'm on an xt2 tablet. It installed the boot loader on the thumb drive, I installed from.. (not sure why). So I need the thumb drive to boot. I just want to move the boot loader to /dev/sda1
[22:51] <escott> wjtaylor, your disk is not GPT. the 1Mb alignment has nothing at all to do with GPT
[22:51] <davidjonez> no, I got a value error : bad marshal data
[22:52] <davidjonez> Did the same thing with ubiquity -d
[22:52] <c_smith> davidjonez, sec
[22:52] <kunji> wjtaylor: Oh, ok, you need to just install it to the right device, maybe you'll need to set a boot flag, but we'll see.  I'll link you the page in a sec
[22:53] <wjtaylor> kunji: exactly!
[22:53] <davidjonez> ok
[22:53] <wjtaylor> I usually do it with fdisk, but can't use it.
[22:53] <c_smith> davidjonez, looks like you may have found a bug.
[22:53] <c_smith> davidjonez, which at that point, you'll want to report it with as much info as possible.
[22:54] <escott> !grub | wjtaylor the first thing i sent you has grub install instructions...
[22:55] <kunji> wjtaylor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2_from_a_Working_System  This should get GRUB2 installed to the right place, that partition might need to have the boot flag set, which you can use gparted for (if you have a GUI and install it, sudo apt-get install gparted) or parted, but you might need to read the man page to figure it out exactly.
[22:55] <dingo311> any ideas why "sudo chmod go=rx storage1" leaves the permissions as drwxrwxrwx?
[22:55] <wjtaylor> escott: thanks. I've read that.
[22:55] <escott> dingo311, what kind of format is the disk
[22:55] <davidjonez> alright is there a way I can send you screen shots on xchat of what's happening while I try to run the file?
[22:56] <wjtaylor> kunji: ok. I'll see if I can change it
[22:56] <c_smith> davidjonez, all I can recommend is imgbin then linking the image, or if it's in Terminal, pastebin.
[22:57] <c_smith> pastebin for copying terminal/other text output, imgbin for screenshots
[22:57] <davidjonez> alright
[22:59] <dingo311> escott: according to fstab, ntfs
[22:59] <hays> is there a channel for chrubuntu?
[22:59] <escott> dingo311, NTFS does not support posix permissions. you can only change the permissions at the entire filesystem level through mount options
[23:01] <dingo311> escott: so edit the fstab?
[23:01] <escott> dingo311, sure
[23:01] <davidjonez> http://pastebin.com/zG7UiLb9
[23:01] <davidjonez> thats the terminal text from running ubiquity/ubiquity -d
[23:02] <dingo311> escott: ok, and the filesystem can stay ntfs?
[23:02] <escott> dingo311, changing /etc/fstab doesn't do anything to the disk
[23:03] <kunji> escott: Hmm, yeah, his partitions don't look like gpt, wonder why he couldn't set the boot flag with fdisk.
[23:03] <ShawnRisk> How do I make Ubuntu 12.10 unmuted on bootup?  Everytime I load Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 the sounds are mute.
[23:03] <c_smith> davidjonez, looks like it's crashing before even drawing anything.
[23:03] <c_smith> hence why it appears to not open
[23:04] <jhutchins> kunji: Is he running DOS?
[23:04] <c_smith> davidjonez, and it looks to be trying to import something that may or may not be corrupt/
[23:05] <c_smith> davidjonez, only thing I can recommend trying is burning the disk again. or making a liveUSB
[23:05] <airglide> can someone help me, I've made an application and I want to link the files with a specific extension to the program and give it an icon, I've tried creating a mime type and then copying a .svg in to /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable, but it doesn't work
[23:05] <davidjonez> alright I'm running it off of a live usb right now
[23:05] <davidjonez> should I just format it and try again?
[23:05] <lkjh> hi
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> airglide  you too, ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[23:06] <airglide> okay thanks
[23:06] <c_smith> davidjonez, I'd say so
[23:06] <bennett13> Hi! I wanted to ask: if I execute a command as root preceeded by a space, so that it is not logged in .bash_history, is there any other way it can be traced?
[23:06] <davidjonez> Alright will do thanks for the help.
[23:07] <bennett13> I mean, without using sudo, so that it is not logged in auth.log
[23:07] <lkjh> i try to ubuntu a usb live disk from my bullshit imac but it is impossible to find this unmountDisk which one is wrong my imac or your tutorial
[23:07] <lkjh> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[23:07] <FloodBot1> lkjh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <lkjh> ?????
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> lkjh  mind your language here
[23:07] <dingo311> escott: my only understanding of what to do would be change the filesystem, which involves formatting, i dont want that
[23:08] <bennett13> anyone? :S
[23:08] <escott> dingo311, i would look at your existing mount options and modify them as you need. check the output of "mount" you need to change dmask and fmask
[23:08] <dingo311> escott: my understanding if what you said is cahnge the perms at mount, which to me means edit fstab
[23:09] <ShawnRisk> any thoughts on my question?
[23:09] <bencc> can I create a sandbox with apparmor?
[23:09] <SierraAR> lkjh: Might help if you specify what mac OS you're running
[23:09] <bencc> it says here that the current version doesn't support it http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/AppArmorSandboxing but why?
[23:09] <lkjh> macosxlion....
[23:12] <fred_ndl> Hello
[23:13] <BlitzHere> HI
[23:16] <cuco> hello guys
[23:17] <cuco> is there anyone?
[23:17] <BlitzHere> Since I had GRUB installed, I get the kernel and initrd.gz for 12.10 and out them into /boot and followed instructions in the wiki. However, the installer doesn't seem to recognize my ethernet connection, which is weird because the debian istaller worked just fine last week and the internet works. Can anyone help
[23:17] <zezikaro> cuco As always, ask your question :)
[23:18] <BlitzHere> I have a P4 1.6 Ghz computer with 512 MB of RAM and I want to install lubuntu 12.10. My CD drive stopped working for some reason and my BIOS isn't doing too well with my USB flash drive.
[23:19] <BlitzHere> My ethernet card is a Realtek 8139d, which has had it's drivers put into the linux kernel a while ago...
[23:19] <fred_ndl> somebody want talk ?
[23:19] <BlitzHere> I'm kind of a noob with linux though...so help will be very much appreciated
[23:21] <k1l_> fred_ndl: we have the #ubuntu-offtopic for regular talking :)
[23:22] <k1l_> !ask | cuco
[23:23] <raven_> hello, can anyone help me? i just installed ubuntu and im abit new
[23:23] <k1l_> raven_: just ask
[23:24] <benedict_> hi, is it normal that users can read other users home directories?
[23:24] <raven_> well i have no sound, when i watched tutorials on youtube they said i should install some package because i have an 8core amd, but i cant find it in the software center, i also havent installed my graphics because theres a few options and i dont know which is best
[23:25] <escott> benedict_, is it usual for a car to be blue?
[23:26] <raven_> :(
[23:26] <escott> raven_, help you with what?
[23:26] <escott> benedict_, if you want to change it you can change your umask
[23:26] <VlanX> I have a server with four NICs, any advice how can i have my routing table fixed w/out having a mess everytime i plug or umplug any interface?
[23:27] <escott> raven_, what is the output of sudo lshw -c sound
[23:27] <benedict_> escott: ok, let me set my question more precisely: can ubuntu usres read each others home directires by default?
[23:27] <benedict_> escott: chmod?
[23:27] <escott> benedict_, default permissions are 755 so yes
[23:27] <BarkingFish> raven_, since you're new - don't paste that in the channel, if you get a result - put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com and post the url here
[23:28] <benedict_> escott: ooohhh! ok , didn't know that
[23:28] <warz> hi all. whats the best way to manage two har d drives? i have ubuntu installed on my small SSD drive, and i have a 1TB drive that i'd like to basically install everything on. how can i set ubuntu up to use that drive for storing most things?
[23:29] <escott> warz, what are you considering "most" you could just put /home on that mechanical disk
[23:29] <benedict_> escott: do i have to remove read/execute for group and/or others?
[23:29] <benedict_> drwxr-xr-x 37 benedict benedict 4096 Jan 21 20:22 benedict
[23:29] <escott> benedict_, chmod -R g-rx o-rx $HOME
[23:29] <benedict_> drwxr-xr-x 17 mister   mister   4096 Jan 21 21:35 mister
[23:30] <benedict_> escott: thank you
[23:30] <escott> benedict_, i dont see why you would remove rx from your own group
[23:30] <benedict_> escott: i am asking if i should
[23:30] <escott> benedict_, if you sleep better at night
[23:30] <benedict_> ?
[23:31] <benedict_> ah i see - each users has its own group
[23:31] <escott> benedict_, *should* you i have no idea. entirely up to you
[23:31] <benedict_> escott: so it's enough to just o-rx ?
[23:32] <escott> benedict_, enough for what? what is your usecase that concerns you?
[23:32] <BlitzHere> I have a P4 1.6 Ghz computer with 512 MB of RAM and I want to install lubuntu 12.10. My CD drive stopped working and my BIOS doesn't like USB flash drives. Since I had GRUB installed, I get the kernel and initrd.gz for 12.10 and out them into /boot and followed instructions in the wiki. However, the installer doesn't seem to recognize my ethernet card. My card is a Realtek 8139d, which has had it's drivers put into the linux kern
[23:32] <escott> benedict_, is that enough for a corporate server with many users. NO. is it enough for a home user again NO
[23:34] <benedict_> escott: it's a ubuntu 12.10, 2 users, one user is used to ssh to the machine by some of my friends. the other user is my private account. i just don't want them to peek around in my data
[23:34] <escott> benedict_, in that case it probably is sufficient
[23:35] <benedict_> escott: ok
[23:37] <benedict_> escott: thank you for your help
[23:37] <wjtaylor> How can I reinstall the wifi drivers?
[23:38] <benedict_> i will dive into the umask for long term solutions
[23:38] <escott> benedict_, it sounds like you just need to change your umask to 007
[23:39] <benedict_> escott: yep - but since i am not going to change the system much the umask will be relevant for future setups only
[23:40] <benedict_> although i think its an 'intersting' choice for default to make home readable for other users - it surprised me
[23:40] <benedict_> but i think that's ot
[23:41] <escott> benedict_, its a choice that is consistent with the ubuntu framework. it makes things "easier" for many use cases. There aren't that many cases where a umask of 007 is substantially more secure than a 002
[23:41] <escott> benedict_, and those cases where it is have dedicated people who know that it matters
[23:42] <benedict_> escott: ok, point taken
[23:43] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello all, over this past weekend I have updated both my office & home 12.10 installs and my nvidia drivers died on both of them and have spent a long tim trying to get working again.  Just when I think it's stable it goes back to offering me "low graphics mode" which doesn't actually work.  Is there a more common fix out at this point?
[23:52] <kunji> jhutchins: I don't think so.
[23:56] <LeChosenOne> hello?
[23:57] <CyberTails> Hello Folks, How do you change the graphics quality on 12.04?