[07:27] <_2> also why does cat proc mounts list things mounted multiple times ?   http://pastebin.com/f5e43316b
[07:27] <_2> and why is device_mapper module not in the ubuntu kernels or why is lilo still looking for it ???  http://pastebin.com/f302d497d
[07:29] <_2> and anyone know why permission on a users home dir would affect ssh  ?
[07:33] <ari_stress> The second scatters files all over the disk so there's plenty of free space if the file's size changes. It can also re-arrange files on-the-fly, since it has plenty of empty space to shuffle around. Very nice ext3 :)
[07:33] <_2> ari_stress yep
[07:33] <ari_stress> on-the-fly... nice to believe, hope so
[07:34] <_2> if you don't believe it, then we'll get you a magic feather that will help you fly...
[07:34] <bullgard4> Why is the process kondemand/0 running every few seconds on one Ubuntu 8.04.2 laptop but not on another ? It seems to be unrelated to the CPU frequency change rhythm indicated by the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor applet.
[07:35] <ari_stress> :) i just wish that we can "watch" the show when it does that
[07:35] <Scubidus> alright I got a hard line
[07:35] <_2> bullgard4 because some daemon is calling it.
[07:35] <dinesh372> i am a beginner in shell scripting can anyone tell me which will be the best book to start
[07:35] <_2> bullgard4 if it runs long enough you can catch it with pstree
[07:35] <_2> dinesh372 man bash
[07:36] <lodder_> mindrape: can you still help me
[07:36] <oliver_> Why do people use Emacs and VIM?  Why not use netbeans or some other ide?
[07:36] <ari_stress> dinesh372: join #bash
[07:36] <_2> dinesh372 and remember that anything done on the command line can be put in a script.   and some things that cant.
[07:36] <Scubidus> can someone help me out with my wireless card
[07:37] <mindrape> lodder_ were you looking for directories?  find . -type d -iregex '.*\/Season.*[0-9]'      that part should work... lemme try to figure out the Series part...
[07:37] <mindrape> oliver_: they want to be more efficient probably...
[07:37] <DamienCassou> oliver_: I use eclipse to do Java programming but emacs for texts I have to write (like articles).
[07:37] <Paddy_EIRE> oliver_: The opposite could be said also... try and avoid polls and "better than's" on this channel it always ends up a flame war
[07:37] <dinesh372> _2: actually i want to know any good book for learning shell scripting
[07:37] <DamienCassou> mindrape: did you see that msttcorefont didn't solve my problem?
[07:38] <mindrape> DamienCassou: yeah... dunno man.  :(
[07:38] <Athenon_> Ok, so I have postfix installed...and it works fine...locally.  It won't allow any outside clients (ie over the internet) on...it gives me a "cannot establish connection" error like the server's running on a different port or doesn't exist...even though I specified my IP address in mynetworks.  Any ideas?
[07:38] <_2> dinesh372 but learning the basics of bash the best place to start  imo
[07:38] <Scubidus> I can get Ubuntu to recognize my card and even list the networks that are available to connect to when I go through
[07:38] <Scubidus> the manual configuration
[07:38] <DamienCassou> mindrape: ok. Do you know where I can ask?
[07:38] <oliver_> how is emacs and vim more effecient?
[07:38] <oliver_> just wondering, not trying to start a flame war
[07:38] <oliver_> <[07:38] <Paddy_EIRE> oliver_: try them and see
[07:39] <mindrape> oliver_ with about 8 keystrokes you can get more done in either of those than any bloated IDE.
[07:39] <_2> does netbeans require a gui ?
[07:39] <oliver_> I tried VIM
[07:39] <DamienCassou> oliver_: lot of shortcuts to move your cursor. never have to use the mouse. You can easily open distant files or edit files as root...
[07:39] <jtaji> dinesh372: check out two bash guides here http://tldp.org/guides.html
[07:39] <_2> does netbeans require a gui ?
[07:39] <dinesh372> _2: actually i am unable to understand what u told me first time
[07:39] <oliver_> _2, yeah
[07:40] <oliver_> so emacs and vim are only good for shortcuts and not using mouse?
[07:40] <_2> dinesh372 oh.    the command    man bash   # opens the documentation for bash
[07:40] <pogztimz> there is no sound in my computer after i updated? any idea how to fix this problem?
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot | oliver_
[07:40] <Athenon_> inet_interfaces is all.....
[07:40] <oliver_> ok sry
[07:40] <_2> oliver_ that alone is enough reason to say  vi.* emacs > netbeans
[07:41] <Athenon_> like i said, it works fine locally...telnet localhost 25...connects fine....but anywhere else...no go
[07:41] <kodokijo> haii
[07:41] <_2> oliver_ neither of those need a gui
[07:41] <pogztimz> hi everyone, there is no sound in my computer after i updated? any idea how to fix this problem?
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | pogztimz
[07:42] <bullgard4> _2: Is there an English word like 'hunter's luck'? I seem to have lost it. Now kondemand/0 is not running every few seconds any more, and I do not know why. It run very short then, anyway. So it seems I cannot use pstree for answering the question put.
[07:42] <_2> oliver_ if you like gui IDE's  maybe try kdevelop
[07:43] <_2> bullgard4 lol  yeah.   called  "^&#$^^#"  but can't be pronounced in this channel  :)
[07:43] <ari_stress> _2, http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2008/11/13/fighting-fragmentation-on-linux says i must separate the partition for torrents for performance
[07:44] <dinesh372> _2: ok you want me to firstly learn about bash
[07:44] <[kev]> hi, I have this program , gmail notifier for ubuntu -- how can i make it start automatically when i run ubuntu?
[07:44] <_2> ari_stress dinesh372 yeah,  that will fill in the blanks on writing shell scripts
[07:45] <afd_> hi! is there a repository that packages the latest nvidia beta drivers?
[07:45] <Scubidus> Can someone help me with my network card I can get the OS to recognize that its there, even go so far as list the possible networks, though it won't let me connect using it
[07:46] <ari_stress> [kev]: system > prefrences > sessions
[07:48] <dayo_> .
[07:49] <nightrid3r> i have to setup an tlsp server but there's 1 windows vista pc that also needs connection to the ltsp server, you know of a windows client i can use, it must be very simple
[07:53] <_2> dinesh372  http://bash-hackers.org/wiki/doku.php/scripting/tutoriallist
[07:54] <mindrape> dinesh372: this is the one that I learned from... http://wooledge.org:8000/BashGuide  (first on the list in the link _2 gave you)
[07:54] <dli> wubi question. how do I recover passwd for wubi installation?
[07:56] <wormdrink> Hi
[07:56] <wormdrink> everybody
[07:56] <wormdrink> how do i select gcc version ?
[07:56] <Diehardy> hello
[07:56] <_2> dli boot to single user mode (recovery mode) and copy /etc/passwd~ to /etc/passwd    and /etc/shadow~ to /etc/shadow   note that can erase users frewhly added too.  you might be better resetting the password with   passwd username
[07:57] <_2> freshly
[07:57] <Athenon_> ok....and it works when i throw it on a different port.........firewall blocking it?
[07:57] <wormdrink> say i have 4.3 and 4.2
[07:57] <wormdrink> how do i change from 4.3 to 4.2
[07:57] <owen1> i want to burn a file onto a dvd. i insert empty dvd. where is it located?
[07:58] <carpii> is this a riddle?  I think its located in your dvd drive, where you just put it
[07:59] <wormdrink> no i think he means path
[07:59] <wormdrink> to device
[07:59] <wormdrink> or something
[07:59] <carpii> hehe yeah, i was just teasing :p
[07:59] <wormdrink> lol
[07:59] <_2> it's still a riddle
[08:00] <_2> here's the answer  http://pastebin.com/f21d535bd
[08:00] <_2> ummm may not work correctly on notebooks that can't close their own drive
[08:00] <skeebo>  /server irc.spotchat.org
[08:01] <ari_stress> _2: nice tool: http://tips4linux.com/check-fragmentation-levels-on-ext3-files/
[08:02] <O__o> hi how to connect vnc?
[08:02] <O__o> i always get this error  open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[08:03] <ari_stress> oh sh**, my drive is really fragmented
[08:03] <Scubidus> So can someone help me with my wireless?
[08:04] <houyan> i'm on a macbook pro v4,1 i'm using ubuntu 8.10; i have sound 'leakage', i.e. i plug in my microphones, i watch a movie, and people can still hear some sound of the movie
[08:04] <Slart> ari_stress: noone said ext3 didn't fragment.. it just don't affect performance the same way it does to ntfs and friends
[08:04] <Athenon_> no, iptables looks fine...but why isnt the dang server receiving the traffic and responding?  it's not throwing any loggable errors -_-
[08:04] <ari_stress> Slart: 300[2006]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo.avi: 5211 extents found, perfection would be 6 extents. 5000 frags
[08:04] <ari_stress> :(
[08:05] <Slart> ari_stress: yup.. I've got files like that too
[08:05] <ari_stress> Slart: hmm.. i thought it does defrag on-the-fly :(
[08:06] <Slart> ari_stress: you can wait until ext4 becomes standard.. it comes with a defragger
[08:06] <Slart> ari_stress: nah.. it creates files a bit differently than windows does.. but I don't think it defragments automatically.. not that I know of at least
[08:06] <ari_stress> Slart: nice to hear that. great
[08:06] <nightrid3r> !info pgdb
[08:07] <_2> !info filefrag
[08:07] <ari_stress> ubottu is wrong, i have filefrag in 8.10
[08:07] <Slart> _2: it isn't a package.. it's just an application.. I think its in some other package
[08:07] <Slart> !find filefrag
[08:07] <Alex_21> Hi, all, I have no sound on my box. It is a fresh install of Ubuntu PPC 8.04 and I am using a G4 Digital Audio Powermac tower
[08:07] <Alex_21> Any help to get it working is greatly appreciated
[08:08] <^TuTTiLiberi^502> ciao
[08:08] <^TuTTiLiberi^502> !list
[08:08] <_2> Slart maybe use that on it to see  http://pastebin.com/f6d7c2546
[08:08] <nightrid3r> !find pgdb
[08:09] <Slart> _2: or just !find filefrag in this channel.. or use apt-file
[08:09] <ari_stress> oh man torrent really mess up my drive. need to reformat and separate it into another partition
[08:09] <_2> Slart that doesn't tell me what provides it.   apt-file would
[08:09] <Slart> ari_stress: try to make the client create the entire file when you start a torrent.. instead of adding to it constantly
[08:10] <ari_stress> Slart: can we do that? i use ktorrent
[08:10] <Slart> _2:  "File filefrag found in e2fsprogs, e2fsprogs-dbg, manpages-fr-extra, manpages-ja" that doesn't tell you?
[08:10] <_2> Slart i mean obviously package manpages-fr-extra does not provide  filefrag executable
[08:10] <Slart> _2: we didn't say we wanted an executable
[08:10] <_2> like duh
[08:10] <codeyman> hi Slart..
[08:11] <Slart> hey codeyman
[08:11] <codeyman> Slart: Still stuck in read only file system :(
[08:11] <codeyman> found this in dmesg: kernel: EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem. ... kernel: EXT3-fs: write access will be enabled during recovery. kernel: EXT3-fs: recovery complete. ... kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[08:12] <Slart> codeyman: and fsck didn't find anything wrong? no other errors?
[08:12] <_2> codeyman   root fs ?
[08:12] <compguy1101> anyone know why ubuntu remix wont come out of sleep if you leave it for like longer then an hour?
[08:13] <_2> codeyman you can   sudo mount -no remount,rw /  # to make it writable so you can fix things.
[08:13] <codeyman> Slart: fsck didn't find anything
[08:13] <_2> assuming it's the root fs which you didn't answer
[08:13] <codeyman> _2: fix what?
[08:14] <_2> you said you were in readonly fs ?
[08:14] <_2> you obviously can't change anything in a ro fs
[08:14] <codeyman> I can use livecd/mount .. -remount to make the partition readable..
[08:14] <codeyman> and change it
[08:14] <codeyman> but after reboot.. it drops back to the read only state
[08:14] <Alex_21> Help with PPC sound anyone?
[08:14] <Alex_21> Please
[08:14] <ari_stress> codeyman: maybe the /etc/fstab is wrong
[08:15] <compguy1101> Alex_21, whats up
[08:15] <codeyman> nope.. its fine
[08:15] <codeyman> that was the default
[08:15] <_2> codeyman so find out why it's not remounting rootfs rw and change it.
[08:15] <ari_stress> codeyman: what caused the ro?
[08:15] <_2> ari_stress exactly.
[08:15] <codeyman> _2: :D .. thats what am trying
[08:16] <ari_stress> codeyman: i mean the history, maybe power outage?
[08:16] <codeyman> ari_stress: no poweroutage.. only thing I did before was install libsplashy.. then reinstalled usplash
[08:17] <codeyman> maybe initramfs is conked in the process.. but i did update-initramfs -c to get a new one
[08:17] <ari_stress> codeyman: oh.. hmm.
[08:17] <codeyman> that didn't help either
[08:17] <_2> messed up initramfs then.    rebuild it.
[08:17] <phenom> Out of curiosity,, has any one been noticing problems with firefox recently?
[08:17] <badserii> Hi, does someone have experience with ssh tunneling for mysql ? I had it done, but when mysql is in use, and when I do a netstat -vuptan on the client machine, there are plenty connections with TIME_WAIT status. Is it normal, of if not, how to correct this. Thank you in advance!
[08:17] <codeyman> did update-initramfs -c , dpkg-reconfigure linux-image, update-grub
[08:17] <codeyman> did all google could come up with
[08:18] <ari_stress> codeyman: how about reinstalling the kernel
[08:18] <codeyman> reconfigure kernel image is as good as that I think
[08:18] <Slart> phenom: works nicely here on 64bit.. but i've got a restart waiting for me since the last batch of libc updates I think
[08:18] <_2> codeyman ok.  are you in the real system or in the live cd ?
[08:19] <codeyman> am booted off on a live usb on the machine that is giving me grief
[08:19] <_2> codeyman ok what is the device node ?   sda2 ???
[08:19] <codeyman> sda8
[08:20] <codeyman> for /
[08:20] <_2> codeyman ok.  sudo umount /dev/sda8 && sudo fsck -f /dev/sda8
[08:20] <phenom> I'm having issues with firefox "locking the sound" as things go, which crashes totem etc; it won't allow me to input searches in to the google mini taskbar occasionally, and when that happens when I click on a link it open in a new tab instead of redirecting the current one.. It's real odd, but I am getting that on 2 ubuntu boxes and an Etch box.
[08:20] <codeyman> i did that
[08:20] <_2> with -f ?
[08:20] <codeyman> yes
[08:20] <codeyman> then with -c
[08:21] <phenom> So I'm thinking a recent update screwed up FF.
[08:21] <phenom> :/
[08:21] <ari_stress> phenom: that's so strange
[08:21] <_2> codeyman ok.  tune2fs -l /dev/sda8     and pastebin it.
[08:21] <codeyman> ok
[08:22] <phenom> And I actually notice a problem updating these last 20 acpid updates on both ubuntu boxes :P
[08:22] <phenom> Lol, bad week of updates.
[08:22] <Alex_21> Help with PPC sound anyone?
[08:22] <Alex_21> Please
[08:22] <ari_stress> phenom: i've just ran update this morning, things seem fine
[08:22] <compguy1101> Alex_21,  i asked you once
[08:23] <ari_stress> btw, can we run nautilus as root? how
[08:23] <ari_stress> i mean other than sudo nautilus
[08:23] <compguy1101> you have to ask the question for us to help you, or you can try google
[08:23] <Slart> ari_stress: gksudo nautilus.. but be careful
[08:23] <Alex_21> Hi, all, I have no sound on my box. It is a fresh install of Ubuntu PPC 8.04 and I am using a G4 Digital Audio Powermac tower
[08:23] <Alex_21> Any help is greatly appreciated
[08:23] <Slart> !gksudo | ari_stress
[08:23] <phenom> ari_stress, sudo nautilus
[08:23] <phenom> ahh
[08:23] <compguy1101> Alex_21, did you do all your updates?
[08:24] <ari_stress> Slart: thanks. that's great tip, all this time i thought it was sudo
[08:24] <Slart> ari_stress: thank ubottu =)
[08:24] <Slart> !botsnack
[08:24] <_2> !helpersnack | slart
[08:24] <codeyman> _2: http://pastebin.com/m6fb9edbf here you go
[08:25] <Slart> Yum! Err.. bah.. you know the rest...
[08:25] <_2> codeyman that's ext4 ?
[08:26] <codeyman> ext4 isn't live yet!!
[08:26] <codeyman> this is regular ext3 on ubuntu 8.10
[08:26] <codeyman> 64bit
[08:27] <_2> oh 64  ok
[08:27] <codeyman> why do you say ext4?
[08:27] <Ch1ppy> Hey. I got a segfault while processing the triggers for gxine during an upgrade, so I ran "dpkg --configure -a" and now am getting "dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed." Can anyone help me out?
[08:28] <quentusrex> How do I add a particular user or group the ability to read and write to a directory?
[08:28] <quentusrex> I'd like two groups to be able to read/write to a directory
[08:29] <ari_stress> quentusrex: use filesystem acl
[08:29] <ari_stress> !setfacl
[08:29] <hellhound_> after installing 8.10 and then installing the restricted nvidia driver, I am not longer able to boot into x ... i just get the command prompt... startx reveals no devices found     can anyone help?
[08:29] <ari_stress> quentusrex: sudo setfacl -m u:user1:rw /path/somedir
[08:31] <_2> codeyman humour me,  sudo umount /dev/sda8 ;sudo fsck -f /dev/sda8  #pastebin the results.  i know it's marked clean   and if that says it's all clean then the issue is in either the "root=" or in the /etc/fstab
[08:31] <_2> or the init script.   not likely unless you have been playing in /etc/init.d/
[08:32] <Donny> Hello, Im having a problem connecting to my router with my wireless card. The driver is installed and working but i cant seem to connect .. anyone have an idea?
[08:32] <codeyman> _2: as i said.. I was playing with a library that could have messed with init.d or initramfs
[08:33] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[08:33] <Alex_21> Good night
[08:33] <codeyman> _2:http://pastebin.com/m4b99af16
[08:33] <_2> codeyman k sec.
[08:33] <nivek> hi, can someone help me -- my screen resolution is crap right now ... its like my nVidia card has no driver or something?...
[08:34] <_2> codeyman ok.   mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[08:34] <codeyman> and..
[08:34] <_2> codeyman mount | grep sda8
[08:35] <_2> codeyman ?
[08:35] <codeyman> _2:/dev/sda8 on /home/ubuntu/tmp type ext3 (rw)
[08:35] <_2> that's  (rw)   so it's not the fs
[08:35]  * werdnum waves
[08:35] <codeyman> _2: this is from liveusb.. hope we are on the same page
[08:35] <werdnum> I get this error when trying to play an AVI file with VLC -- [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 141.19 failed with error code 11: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[08:35] <co_setia> hy
[08:36] <_2> now.  grep ' / ' /mnt/etc/fstab
[08:36] <_2> codeyman yes same page.
[08:36] <_2> codeyman  grep ' / ' /mnt/etc/fstab
[08:36] <saranya> I don't have the repository with ruby in it enabled *shrug* how to do it
[08:36] <codeyman> one sec
[08:37] <ethen637> hey anyone?
[08:37] <_2> i guess that could be tabbed insted of spaced
[08:37] <codeyman> _2: http://pastebin.com/d5364f679
[08:38] <[kev]> has anyone here used ubuntu 8.10 for a while?
[08:38] <Slart> !anyone | [kev]
[08:39] <[kev]> problem is: im finding it VERY buggy ... i just wrote a lot of code using eclipse -- in ubuntu 8.10 ..and eclipse crashed for no reason..and i lost all my code
[08:39] <saranya> pls anyone answer my question I don't have the repository with ruby in it enabled *shrug* how to do it
[08:39] <Slart> [kev]: eclipse might very well be buggy... I wont argue with that
[08:40] <hischild> join #ubuntu-ops
[08:40] <_2> codeyman ok you need to boot the real system.   add boot options "nosplash guiet"
[08:40] <Slart> hischild: all of us? =)
[08:40] <hischild> Slart, it was a typo, i started typing to fast
[08:40] <_2> codeyman be sure to umount /mnt before you reset.
[08:40] <codeyman> _2: in menul.list?
[08:41] <_2> codeyman you can there,  or at boot time   grub edit feature
[08:41] <Slart> hischild: =)
[08:41] <co_setia> hyyyyyyyyyy
[08:41] <codeyman> _2: ok.. will try that be back later then to report
[08:41] <_2> ok i'll be around
[08:42] <Finnish> I have this problem  libavc1394-dev: Depends: libavc1394-0 (= 0.5.3-1build1) but 0.5.3-1+b1 is to be installed What I need to do?
[08:42] <humbolt> The graphical interface did not properly start, which is needed for graphical logins. It is likely that the X Window System or GDM is not properly configured. -- Always get that, the first time I try to switch to a new user session with the fast-switching applet. But it works on the second try. What can I do?
[08:42] <hellhound_> after installing 8.10 and then installing the restricted nvidia driver, I am not longer able to boot into x ... i just get the command prompt... startx reveals no devices found     can anyone help?
[08:42] <ethen637> ubuntu 8.19 is awesome .
[08:43] <ethen637> oh sorry 8.19
[08:43] <ethen637> oh sorry 8.10
[08:43] <chronosza> does anyone know if the intel x3100 is supported on 8.10? the OS hangs if it tries to do any 3d acceleration using the detected intel driver and the best google tells me is that it doesnt work.
[08:43] <ethen637> yes
[08:45] <sidewalk> how can i set several different background images (wallpapers) in Ubuntu 8.10 (Gnome) ?
[08:45] <ethen637> so simple
[08:45] <riley> right click desktop and choose change desktop bacround
[08:46] <chronosza> ethen637:  was that yes for me?
[08:46] <riley> backround*
[08:46] <ethen637> jjust right click on desktop and select configure desktop
[08:48] <ethen637> that all , u can  see menu which shows you to change background
[08:49] <riley> there is no configure desktop
[08:49] <riley> i just checked
[08:50] <extor> Is there any way to mount an LVM volume into something readable when you boot off a knoppix CD?
[08:50] <randal> you guys are gonna laugh at this i started a live cd for g partition and was resizing my hard drive partitions and the power went out and i lost everything is there away to repair this
[08:51] <_2> !testdisk | randal
[08:51] <step21> randal: that's what notebooks are for ...
[08:51] <_2> !info testdisk | randal
[08:51] <_2> might work....
[08:51] <randal> _2 ??????
[08:51] <ethen637> oh oops then open image you wnat to set at desktop then right click on it , check wheter u  can see option as sert as background
[08:51] <randal> _2 whats that
[08:51] <step21> randal: and if you live somewhere where that happens often I would get some backup power
[08:52] <randal> step21:  it was the power out my bro keeked the power cord out
[08:52] <_2> randal boot the live cd   install testdisk and try it.
[08:52] <randal> step21: kicked
[08:52] <step21> randal: there's no easy way unfortunately.
[08:52] <hazhar> any one know about cooldisk error ? i can,t copy any thing in my memory cart !
[08:53] <randal> step21: what are you talkingabout
[08:53] <ethen637> what kicking is their
[08:53] <randal> _2:  where do i get test disk
[08:53] <_2> !info testdisk | randal
[08:53] <step21> randal: professional data recovery might have a shot, but that costs good money ... on your own if you don't know anything about this, just reinstall ...
[08:53] <_2> step21 why don't you let him try testdisk,   i works some times
[08:54] <O__o> how to type ’ ??
[08:54] <randal> _2: that code you keep sending me does nothing
[08:55] <O__o> in man x11vnc i suppose to type  ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 far-host ’x11vnc -localhost  -display :0’
[08:55] <_2> on second though, step21 you are the man.
[08:55] <O__o> ’ ??
[08:55] <O__o> how do u type ’ in keyboard?
[08:55] <O__o> ' " ` <---- those are not ’
[08:55] <riley> key under esc
[08:55] <_2> i mean,   randal  are ignoring what ubottu says ?    do you know how to install packages ?
[08:55] <O__o> key under esc = ` not ’
[08:55] <riley> oops
[08:56] <step21> randal: try http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd , if thatdoesn't work you'll have to reinstall
[08:57] <_2> randal see ubottu's next line...
[08:57] <_2> !info testdisk | randal
[08:57] <_2> see     ^
[08:57] <_2> you can install it in your live cd via the package manager
[08:57] <_2> and run it.
[08:57] <step21> _2: testdisk might work ... wasn't aware that there was anything stable for linux/ext2
[08:57] <step21> nice
[08:58] <_2> step21 it really depends only on what exactly was happening on the disk when the power failed.   chances are it will work.  but there are things that could have been happening that will destroy the data  so....
[08:58] <mikevankuik> I'm trying to use syslog to save log data from my router but something isn't right yet the log file doesn't get written
[08:59] <ethen637> check admin access
[08:59] <step21> _2: yeah true, even harder to determine remotely I guess
[08:59] <_2> yep
[09:00] <sidewalk> does anyone know how i setup different wallpapers for different workspaces in Ubuntu?
[09:00] <sidewalk> im not using the cube
[09:02] <fosco_> sidewalk: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Wallpapoz
[09:02] <_2> codeyman has been too long gone... he's probably writing down what the console told him...
[09:03] <hazhar_> hi
[09:03] <pundiramit> how to solve this problem "GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv" . I have just installed ubuntu-8.10 and I got this error during installing updates.
[09:04] <pundiramit> is there any way to update? how should I get that GPG key?
[09:04] <codeyman> _2: fixed the issue finally.. splashy had hijacked the init process somehow :(
[09:05] <_2> codeyman glad you are streight now.
[09:05] <codeyman> I just apt-get installed splashy and it worked after printing some issues.. still fails and cries about stuff.. but I dont really care about those as long as the system is bootable..
[09:05] <codeyman> thanks _2
[09:05] <codeyman> I owe you one
[09:06] <_2> codeyman don't mention it.
[09:11] <_2> !gpg
[09:11] <_2> !gpgkey
[09:11] <kavitha> whic is the best graphics library?
[09:11] <ziroday> sidewalk: AFAIK you can't. You can have wallpapers change over time, but not have per desktop wallpapers
[09:11] <kavitha> which one is the best graphics library?
[09:11] <_2> kavitha the one you like
[09:11] <kavitha> hmmm
[09:11] <ethen637> kavitha are u from india
[09:11] <_2> kavitha "best" is a non-question question in the linux world
[09:11] <kavitha> one which gives better performance
[09:11] <kavitha> ya
[09:11] <ethen637> i'm also hhaha
[09:11] <_2> some like qt  some like gtk   some dont
[09:12] <kavitha> ok
[09:12] <kavitha> wer in india?
[09:12] <ethen637> near mumbai and you?
[09:12] <kavitha> i m using ubuntu..
[09:13] <kavitha> wer near mumbai?
[09:13] <ethen637> i use 8.10 desktop edition
[09:13] <ethen637> on my lappy
[09:14] <kavitha> 2_: which graphics library gives better performance?
[09:14] <kane77> hi, can I downgrade package using apt-get (install older version)?
[09:14] <ziroday> kavitha: it depends what you use them for
[09:14]  * _2 's name is an allusion to being binary or "base two"
[09:15] <_2> kavitha probably gtk if you ask that in here.  but if you ask in #kubuntu it's probably qt
[09:15] <kavitha> ziroday: for plugin implementation
[09:15] <ethen637> kavitha:_batu
[09:16] <ziroday> kavitha: what exactly are you trying to develop?
[09:16] <_2> kavitha gtk is what they want me to tell you.
[09:17] <ethen637> lathica
[09:17] <kavitha> i want to display video in browser
[09:18] <ethen637> oh it;'s easy with html
[09:18] <kavitha> ya?
[09:18] <kavitha> ya
[09:18] <ziroday> kavitha: what browser
[09:18] <_2> ethen637 talking flash are you ?
[09:18] <kavitha> hey lathica?
[09:18] <kavitha> u r lathica?
[09:19] <ethen637> ya from slumdog millenior
[09:19] <rww> !ot
[09:19] <kavitha> wer u did ur degree... in Mulky?
[09:19] <_2> rww there wasn't anything going on  @ the moment anyway
[09:19] <hellhound> i just installed 8.10 and after activating the restricted nvidia driver and rebooting I can no longer get into x.  if i type startx i get "(EE) No devices detected." and "Fatal server error: no screens found"  I have put my xorg file on pastebin at http://pastebin/m29b60d2    can anyone PLEASE help?
[09:19] <rww> pundiramit: Is your computer's date and time set correctly?
[09:20] <ethen637> no i'm U.G
[09:20] <sidewalk> wallpapoz doesnt start under Ubuntu 8.10
[09:20] <rww> _2: So?
[09:20] <ariphone2G3G> hi
[09:20] <carpii> hellhound, your url doesnt work
[09:20] <sonoblaise> I'm writing a shell script and I've a small bug..  I want to assign an output file to a variable (var='/tmp/tempfile') and then use it as a redirection this way: mycommand [params] > $var  ...  the thing tells me that the redirection is ambiguous.  How should i do it then?
[09:20] <ethen637> no i don't have any problem with 8.10
[09:20] <ziroday> sidewalk: try desktop drapes, however both are quite buggy
[09:20] <pundiramit> yes I did it manually? It gave me wrong date/time after installation.
[09:20] <sidewalk> ziroday: can you recommend another solution?
[09:21] <ziroday> sidewalk: desktop drapes
[09:21] <kavitha> ziroday: firefox browser
[09:21] <ziroday> hellhound: you didn't pastebin anything or gave the wrong link :)
[09:21] <rww> pundiramit: It's correct now, though? Year, month, date, etc? Because the usual cause of that error is your computer's date being set in the past.
[09:21] <carpii> hellhound: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/common-problems-and-solutions-for-nvidia-restricted-drivers-after-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-upgrade.html
[09:21] <hellhound> carpii: sorry it should be http://pastebin.com/m29b60d2
[09:22] <knic> can someone help me with tar, I am trying to back up a directory that contains a symlink but I want to exclude certain files in it, and it doesnt seem to be working
[09:22] <ziroday> kavitha: well then you need to use <video> tags, but this isn't the right place for those types of question. Ask in #web
[09:22] <ariphone2G3G> hi someone could help me on my pptp server .
[09:22] <ariphone2G3G> plz i get connected but it s disconnected after less thant one minute
[09:22] <ziroday> hellhound: also can we have your xorg.log please
[09:22] <carpii> knic, what isnt working, and what are you trying?
[09:22] <pundiramit> rww: it looks correct to me. there should be some way to get my date/time settings from NTP. I will try to set my system date/time through that
[09:23] <kavitha> pundiramit: NTP ll set
[09:24] <rww> pundiramit: Okay. Do that, then try updating again. You could also try the instructions in the second post of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255023
[09:24] <pundiramit> rww: also I'm working under proxy settings. does it have anything to do with the error?
[09:24] <hellhound> ziroday: i don't know of a way to send the log to pastebin wtihout typing it all out manually (which is what i did for xorg)...
[09:24] <ziroday> hellhound: you can install the pastebinit program and then do cat /path/to/log | pastebinit
[09:25] <carpii> or just open it in a text editor and cut and paste
[09:25] <rww> pundiramit: I'm not sure, to be honest.
[09:25] <ariphone2G3G> exactly one minute after the connection it s disconnected from the pptp server
[09:25] <ziroday> carpii: he has no xorg...
[09:25] <ziroday> carpii: X does not start.
[09:25] <carpii> yeah i know, i was explaining that he didnt need to type it all into pastebin ;)
[09:25] <sonoblaise> is there a channel specialized for shell scripting??
[09:26] <chronosza> does anyone know which driver should be used for the intel x3100?
[09:26] <chronosza> the default intel one does not.
[09:26] <rww> sonoblaise: there's the #bash channel; that might be useful
[09:26] <ziroday> sonoblaise: if you're using bash then #bash
[09:26] <sonoblaise> rww and ziroday : thanks a lot!
[09:26] <hellhound> ziroday: ok here you go http://pastebin.com/f6af9a923
[09:27] <kavitha> after settint to ntp u need to restart network
[09:27] <kavitha> after setting to ntp u need to restart network
[09:27] <ziroday> hellhound: your video card is connected and seated correctly right?
[09:28] <ziroday> hellhound: also what is the output of lspci | grep VGA?
[09:29] <hellhound> ziroday: yes actually i have two video cards and two monitors both video cards are NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
[09:29] <Donny> Anyone know why my wifi card isnt connecting to my router? the driver is set up on it any programs i could get to manage that or somthign?
[09:30] <althaf> hey,i'm facing a problem
[09:30] <ziroday> hellhound: okay, whats the output of lspci | grep VGA?
[09:30] <althaf> i disabled booting to dgm
[09:30] <althaf> gdm
[09:30] <althaf> and i like booting to text mode
[09:30] <chronosza> anyone know about the intel driver? i need accell in vmware
[09:30] <althaf> and doing startx
[09:31] <althaf> when i dothat , after my usage im unable to shutdown
[09:31] <hellhound> ziroday: i get two lines "01:00.0 VGA Compatible controller nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1)" and "04:00.0 VGA Compatible controller nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1)"
[09:31] <althaf> i mean i have to explicitly give shutdown -h now
[09:31] <somaunn> hello guys
[09:31] <ziroday> hellhound: okay, one sec
[09:32] <althaf> any one ?
[09:32] <ziroday> hellhound: why don't you try run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:32] <unanxbt> My GDM is not automatically starting up, can anyone help me?
[09:32] <somaunn> althaf: trying to understand the current subject
[09:32] <althaf> ok thanks for that ping
[09:33] <althaf> i dont used gdm to login rather i do startx
[09:33] <ziroday> unanxbt: do you have terminal prompt?
[09:33] <unanxbt> ziroday, yes
[09:33] <ziroday> unanxbt: what does sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start output?
[09:33] <ariphone2G3G> ziroday could you give me a hand please with my pptp server ?
[09:33] <althaf> and one more thing , i cant even see the shutdown/logout/restart option in my pannel,
[09:34] <althaf> i have to choose system->shutdown
[09:34] <unanxbt> ziroday, It starts the gdm but whenever I restart my PC GDM does not automatically starts
[09:34] <althaf> but even if i do that it wont work
[09:34] <ziroday> unanxbt: did you disable it?
[09:35] <unanxbt> I installed kde and kdm with it so it disabled gdm but then I uninstalled kde and also kdm and reenabled gdm but its not starting
[09:35] <kavitha> #plugin
[09:36] <althaf> somaunn did u understand my problem
[09:36] <hellhound> ziroday: i got the exact same response after running sudo nvidia-xconfig both using startx first and rebooting kdm still did not boot so i logged in and tried startx and still got "(EE) No devices detected" "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[09:36] <somaunn> althaf: explain it bro
[09:37] <ziroday> unanxbt: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:37] <ziroday> hellhound: strange
[09:37] <althaf> see . i usually use gdm to login , now i have disabled gdm , i login throu textmode
[09:37] <unanxbt> ziroday, ok, lemme check it
[09:37] <kavitha> #audio
[09:37] <ziroday> hellhound: is your xorg.conf different then before?
[09:37] <althaf> and do startx for gui
[09:37] <ziroday> althaf: okay, and whats not working?
[09:37] <althaf> when i boot up in this way , im unable to shutdown my  system from the menu
[09:38] <unanxbt> ziroday, its done and says that the changes will take place on next login
[09:38] <althaf> rather i have to use shutdown -h now
[09:38] <Lorre> mornin' all.
[09:38] <althaf> from terminal
[09:39] <althaf> and even im unable to see the menus in the taskbar pannel
[09:39] <althaf> i mean shutdown menus
[09:39] <unanxbt> ziroday, if you are here then i can logoff and will come back!
[09:39] <ziroday> unanxbt: sure
[09:39] <althaf> ziroday: did u get me
[09:39] <ziroday> althaf: okay, instead of typing in startx try instead sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:40] <althaf> ok , why is that so ?
[09:40] <althaf> startx does the job , does gdm start up some powrmanagment servive
[09:40] <ziroday> althaf: try it first
[09:40] <althaf> ok .. i will be back
[09:40] <Timecop> im look for same help how setup FTP to my webserver upload Pages?
[09:40] <Lorre> Anyone have the the time to help me out with a wireless network issue?
[09:41] <hellhound> ziroday: no but that is what i think i did before i have also tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xerver-xorg and i tried downloading the nvidia driver from nvidia and then sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run
[09:41] <Timecop> 8:40pm here
[09:41] <ziroday> hellhound: does a livecd work?
[09:42] <unanxbt> ziroday, no, the gdm is not starting automatically, i have to start it manually
[09:43] <unanxbt> ziroday, lemme tell the output of "sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults"
[09:44] <unanxbt> ziroday, update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/gdm missing LSB style header
[09:44] <endeavormac> if i have a general disdain for IDEs, is this considered unhealthy behavior? are there others out there who believe a text editor will do them fine?
[09:44] <ziroday> unanxbt: I get the same error here, and then after  System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist.
[09:45] <binarymutant> endeavormac, I like vim
[09:45] <ziroday> endeavormac: this question would be better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic but I just use a text editor
[09:45] <unanxbt> ziroday, yes, same is here also, does your gdm start automatically?
[09:45] <ziroday> unanxbt: yes
[09:45] <endeavormac> heh ok, thanks
[09:46] <hellhound> ziroday: sorry had a connection problem...yes the livecd works and I can reinstall 8.10 fine and it will boot fine... it is only when I try to enable the restricted graphics driver that I get this issue
[09:46] <unanxbt> ziroday, then what can be wrong with mine?
[09:46] <ziroday> hellhound: okay, I think its an issue with dual cards and the propriatery nvidia drivers. Can't be sure myself as have never had dual cards.
[09:48] <caspix> hello
[09:48] <ziroday> hellhound: whats the output of Xorg -scanpci?
[09:48] <ziroday> unanxbt: not sure, sorry
[09:48] <unanxbt> ziroday, np
[09:48] <caspix> anyone here using xubuntu?
[09:49] <ziroday> caspix: the folks in #xubuntu will be
[09:49] <caspix> ok. thx
[09:49] <caspix> quit
[09:49] <kavitha> quit
[09:51] <deasy> ggg
[09:51] <dr4g> Hey all i'm currently logged in as a user with sudo access. I tried to edit the /etc/passwd file and accidently changed my user ID to 1000. Now i can't edit the passwd file because when attempting to perform a sudo command it says 'Who are you?'. all i need is root access so i can edit this file. Can someone help me please ?
[09:51] <althaf> ziroday:?
[09:51] <althaf> gdm failed to start
[09:51] <althaf> and one more thing
[09:52] <althaf> i used following to disable gdm -- update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[09:52] <ziroday> althaf: why did gdm fail to start
[09:52] <althaf> no idea , may be because of  update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[09:52] <hellhound> ziroday: i get "fatal server error Unrecognized option: -scanpci"
[09:52] <ziroday> hellhound: urgh
[09:53] <dr4g> When i installed ubuntu it didn't ask me for the root password only the user i initally set up with sudo access. Can someone help me identify my root password ?
[09:54] <DJones> !root | dr4g:
[09:54] <Lorre> Anyone have the the time to help me out with a wireless network issue?
[09:54] <ziroday> hellhound: try add BusID "PCI:01:00:00" under Devices please
[09:54] <ZeusKhush> Lorre - shoot!
[09:54] <Hyphenex> Does the ubuntu live CD come with ntfs3g?
[09:55] <dr4g> DJones: i changed my passwd file for my current user and messed it up. Now when i try to use sudo it doesn't know who i am (errornous user id) and can't sudo vi /etc/passwd to fix it.
[09:56] <Hyphenex> dr4g, try sudo - (with the dash)
[09:56] <ziroday> dr4g: you could try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3609.html
[09:56] <ziroday> dr4g: that will give you root access
[09:56] <ziroday> dr4g: obviously don't do step 11
[09:57] <dr4g> Hyphenex: sudo - gives me a syntax error. su - doesn't do anything.
[09:57] <dr4g> My user id in my passwd file is fu**ed so it doesn't know who i am
[09:58] <alaa_> any one can help me to mae my hp lj printer 1018 work with ubuntu desktop 8.10?
[09:58] <ziroday> dr4g: did you see my suggestion?
[09:58] <Lorre> ZeusKhush, see msg
[09:58] <Myrtti> dr4g: mind your language please, this is a family-friendly channel
[09:58] <dr4g> Apologies.
[09:59] <Hyphenex> dr4g, boot from a live D I guess and fix the file then :P
[09:59] <dr4g> ziroday:  i see the suggestion i will attempt to get that root shell from grub. Thanks for your suggestion i'll let you know how i got on.
[09:59] <dr4g> Hyphenex: that's also an option but i need access to this development server ASAP and can't waste time downloading the ISO
[09:59] <alaa_> any one can help me to make my hp lj printer 1018 work with ubuntu desktop 8.10?
[10:00] <unanxbt> !gdm
[10:01] <ziroday> dr4g: there was someone in the thread who had a similar issue as you, he was able to access /etc/passwd through that method
[10:05] <hellhound> ziroday: specifying the BusID did not work either :(
[10:06] <obama_linux> need help with nvidia geforce 9400 GT getting the overscan too work with my tv
[10:06] <ziroday> hellhound: then I'm out of ideas sorry
[10:06] <dr4g> ziroday: okay - i added 'init=/bin/bash it loads a bunch of stuff then goes blank. and does nothing.
[10:06] <obama_linux> nvidia settings manager no longer has the overscan option in it
[10:07] <ziroday> dr4g: did you add rw init=/bin/bash or just init=/bin/bash?
[10:08] <dr4g> first one
[10:08] <dr4g> it has ro quiet splash on there
[10:08] <dr4g> i added the first one to the end, it booted stuff up then just sat there.
[10:09] <dr4g> next time i removed the ro quiet splash and added rw init=/bin/bash and nothing
[10:09] <dr4g> My monitor just sits flashing on the power LED but with no HDD activity or screen output
[10:09] <hellhound> ziroday: thank you for your help.... i am still trying some stuff in google... i am wondering if I have to have the dual monitors setup correctly before nvidia drivers work... in otherwords once activated, it may find the other cards causing a conflict to where I have to setup the whole xorg file for both cards before anything works
[10:09] <CrownAmbassador> Hi guys and gals. I've not been able to use my ADSL line since upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10 at the end of October. Searched around a lot, started threads in forums, reported bugs, but nothing. Got help here a week or so ago aswell, but couldn't figure it out. Has anyone else here heard of 8.10 having problems connecting to the internet via LAN/ADSL modem? The network card and modem works fine with Windows. I even tried the live CD
[10:09] <CrownAmbassador> in my works computer and get the same result. Just don't understand how it can do this in 2 computers and most other people don't have this problem. Extremely frustrating.
[10:09] <sagetator50> ştie cineva şi româna?
[10:09] <Valio> ebasi maikata
[10:09] <Valio> mnoo ora we
[10:09] <Valio> chikii
[10:09] <Valio> :D
[10:10] <FloodBot1> Valio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <Valio> okey bitch
[10:10] <obama_linux> i need overscan help with nvidia 9400GT
[10:10] <dayo_> lol wtf?
[10:11] <ariphone2G3G> hi someone could help me with pptp server ?
[10:12] <dayo_> aruphone2G3G: try #ubuntu-server?
[10:13] <ariphone2G3G> oki thanks
[10:13] <Valio> :)
[10:14] <obama_linux> dayo_ could you help me with a video card problem
[10:14] <lesshaste> hi
[10:15] <lesshaste> I just did a standard update on intrepid and now X is completely blank when I start
[10:15] <lesshaste> how can I change the driver to something generic so I can at least start x?
[10:15] <lesshaste> it looks like the Intel driver is broken
[10:17] <ariphone2G3G> no one in ubuntu-server ...;; :-(
[10:17] <JamesA_> Is there anyone here willing to test my PGP keys by sending me a PGP email if I provide my PGP key?
[10:17] <drazzil> lesshaste: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   edit it changing the driver from,  to "vesa"
[10:18] <HaiHappen> hi
[10:19] <HaiHappen> i think that is not a german channel.....   thats right ???
[10:19] <zaggynl> !de
[10:19] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:20] <silv3r_m00n> where can i get older versions of firefox.. for linux
[10:20] <HaiHappen> THX
[10:20] <HaiHappen> bye
[10:22] <silv3r_m00n> hello ... i want older versions of firefox for linux
[10:25] <miked> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
[10:27] <stevem> Hi, I use a command like...       su - myuser -c "/bin/mycommand"          in rc.local so the process starts as another user, but it never works... but the command does work if typed manually... any guesses on another way I can run something from rc.local as another user in background?
[10:39] <patmanpato> has anyone had issues with loading some module to do with the power button, and start up ?
[10:40] <wesley_> Hi. I'm unable to get my sound (logitech usb headphones) to work.  cat /proc/asound/cards - shows it's listed - aplay -l also lists the logitech headphones
[10:40] <wesley_> anyone any suggestion?
[10:40] <norgay> how do i activate the docker in gnome?
[10:41] <norgay> I just installed docker through synaptic but don't know how to activate it now!
[10:42] <Steff> In terminal -> sudo docker?
[10:42] <Steff> I don't know what docker is ? :D
[10:42] <erUSUL> Steff: why sudo ?
[10:42] <erUSUL> norgay: Alt + f2 -> run "docker"
[10:42] <Steff> Yeh - same shit ;)
[10:43] <ayy> hi
[10:43] <Steff> hi ayy
[10:44]  * LexaWhiteWolf waves
[10:47] <norgay> i get docker through alt+f2 but how do I add the menu items on it
[10:51] <ploom> hi, what would be reasonable to do in case for some gnome applications (like gnome-system-monitor and rhythmbox) there are a few translations that are wrong on ubuntu, but right when using for example gentoo?
[10:53] <Alfarin> I had a Windows machine... it had lots of media with CJK filename on NTFS partition...  I moved all of them to my NAS (ext3) and nuked it to install ubuntu...  everything with ubuntu works great... except I'm seeing all ?'s for the filenames when I mount the ext3 drive on my NAS.... any idea how I should come about correcting this?
[10:55] <lesshate> hi
[10:55] <lesshate> X now just comes up with a black blank screen since I did the last intrepid update
[10:56] <lesshate> I am using the intel driver
[10:56] <lesshate> how can I get X to start?
[10:56] <lesshate> the error message in the logs is "underrun pipe B" it seems
[10:58] <rainmanp7> lesshate i think if you type startx
[10:59] <lesshate> rainmanp7: go on
[10:59] <rainmanp7> lesshate looking it up now
[10:59] <lesshate> rainmanp7: thanks! I am in a virtual terminal :(
[10:59] <lesshate> rainmanp7: looking stuff up is a little tricky
[11:00] <syockit> lesshate: if you have xorg.conf, tell it to use vesa driver for now
[11:01] <syockit> but since you said intrepid, I doubt you have it
[11:01] <rainmanp7> lesshate try typeing that first and see what happens ?
[11:01] <lesshate> syockit: ok but could you help me do that? I tried changing the intel line to vesa with no luck
[11:01] <lesshate> syockit: I can pastebin some stuff if that would help
[11:02] <lesshate> rainmanp7: try typing startx?? The problem is that X comes up blank
[11:02] <rainmanp7> ohhh ok hrmmm can you move through directories and stuff ?
[11:02] <syockit> lesshate: wow, since you can pastebin, It'd be helpful if you can pastebin /var/log/xorg.0.log
[11:03] <syockit> lesshate: even with Driver "vesa", it fails to start?
[11:04] <rconan> since when did visudo not open vim?
[11:04] <rainmanp7> lesshate um I would type locate xorg.conf and check to see what video thing it's loading <open that file as admin>
[11:05] <erUSUL> rconan: it uses you default editor afaik
[11:05] <lesshate> syockit: http://pastebin.com/f1674151e
[11:05] <lesshate> rainmanp7: intel
[11:06] <rconan> the default editor always used to be vim
[11:06] <rconan> i suppose it's a little confusing for people not used to it though
[11:06] <SlimeyPete> if you set $EDITOR to 'vim' it'll probably use vim
[11:07] <rainmanp7> lesshate try changing that to um instead of intel to -> Device      "VESA Framebuffer"
[11:07] <erUSUL> rconan: see the man page it uses /usr/bin/editor --> /etc/alternatives/editor --> whatever you choose through update-alternatives
[11:07] <ariphone2G3G> i mtrying to access a pptp server using my 3G provider to bypass port restriction pptp server is under the wrt54G router running dd-wrt firmware
[11:08] <erUSUL> SlimeyPete: rconan the manpage metions that it usually ignores EDITOR and VISUAL
[11:08] <syockit> and here I thought that underrun problem was fixed
[11:08] <rainmanp7> lesshate and under that try putting this DefaultDepth 16
[11:08] <Schalken> Q: With Wubi, is it possible to mount the host Windows/NTFS file system?
[11:09] <rconan> erUSUL, well... I did sudo EDITOR=vim visudo and it used vim so the man-page would appear to be wrong
[11:09] <inktri> my motherboard's built in nic is not showing up with lspci nor is it showing up in Windows... i've tried updating bios, resetting cmos, but it's still not working. is there anything i can do besides buying a nic card?
[11:10] <erUSUL> rconan: note that is said "usually" ;P
[11:10] <inktri> how can i verify whether or not my nic is really broken?
[11:10] <rconan> erUSUL, fair point. still somewhat confusing
[11:11] <lesshate> syockit: what do you think?
[11:11] <erUSUL> rconan: quoting " Normally, visudo does not honor the VISUAL or EDITOR environment variables unless they contain an editor in the aforementioned editors list.
[11:11] <erUSUL> rconan: but it woulb be easier if you just "man visudo" XD
[11:12] <chickin> Hi, do you just ask a question or what?
[11:12] <erUSUL> !ask | chickin
[11:12] <syockit> lesshate: hmm? have you changed to vesa yet? That xorg.0.log indicates it's still using "intel" module
[11:12] <lesshate> syockit: no..let me do that
[11:12] <chickin> bunty broke broke. Changed fstab bunty vim no problem with mount /dev/sda32. Bunty grub not lilo. No booty boot. Bunty broked.
[11:12] <chickin> please help
[11:13] <rainmanp7> lesshate you need to change it first save it then reset the X cntrl+alt+bckspace then it can take effect
[11:13] <rainmanp7> I hope it takes effect
[11:13] <syockit> lesshate: as rainmanp said, you need admin access. Do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something
[11:14] <chickin> syockit bunty broke broke. Changed fstab bunty vim no problem with mount /dev/sda32. Bunty grub not lilo. No booty boot. Bunty broked.
[11:14] <lesshate> syockit: ooh that was exciting
[11:14] <lesshate> syockit: how do I turn on the mouse so I can copy and paste
[11:15] <syockit> I forgot how you copypaste in nano
[11:15] <chickin> erUSUL bunty broke broke. Changed fstab bunty vim no problem with mount /dev/sda32. Bunty grub not lilo. No booty boot. Bunty broked.
[11:15] <carpii> ctrl+^ and ctrl+K i think
[11:15] <carpii> ctrl+^ and ctrl+U i think
[11:15] <lesshate> syockit: I did startx and got "f000:4aa0: 01 ILLEGAL
[11:15] <carpii> chickin, if your fstab edits are anything like your english, no wonder its broke broke
[11:15] <lesshate> EXTENDED X86 OPCODE"
[11:15] <lesshate> syockit: that's exciting :)
[11:16] <erUSUL> chickin: rephrase the question to something that makes sense please
[11:16] <lesshate> syockit: that was with vesa
[11:16] <chickin> carpii that could be a relevant point.
[11:16] <oCean_> chickin: you're not making much sense. Try to form complete sentences in english, describing details of your problem
[11:16] <WonderStivi> hey guys
[11:16] <carpii> :p
[11:16] <WonderStivi> just curious, anyone had problems with Brasero lately? Burning audio cd's?
[11:16] <syockit> lesshate: hmm wonder what that is. What does your xorg.conf look like?
[11:17] <chickin> erUSUL, oCean_ ok, I shall try again. I am not proficient with the technical language needed to describe my problem as I am an ubuntu (indeed, a *nix) novice.
[11:17] <syockit> lesshate: also next time, instead of startx, do /etc/init.d/gdm restart (or kdm)
[11:17] <chickin> ahem
[11:17] <lesshate> syockit: http://pastebin.com/f27025176
[11:17] <Acsiam> hi
[11:17] <chickin> bunty borked. Me change fstab for new partitty but borked. Reboot no happen with grub sometimes lilo? No. Bunty broke.
[11:17] <chickin> there.
[11:17] <lesshate> anyone know how to turn on the mouse in a virtual terminal?
[11:17] <lesshate> being able to copy and paste would be gret
[11:17] <lesshate> great
[11:17] <Acsiam> anybody experienced with hal?
[11:17] <rainmanp7> lesshate the same xorg.conf -> where it says Section "InputDevice" Identifier     "Mouse0       and add Driver         "mouse"
[11:18] <Acsiam> after I installed kde4.2, the automount fails to work....
[11:18] <lesshate> rainmanp7: how is xorg.conf related to a virtual terminal if X isn't running??
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshate In vbox?
[11:18] <lesshate> Jack_Sparrow: no just normal ubuntu
[11:18] <syockit> rainmanp7: no, it's getting mouse running in tty
[11:19] <lesshate> Jack_Sparrow: I just want it running in tty as syockit says
[11:19] <chickin> oCean_ I thank you for your previous interest, and wish to inform you that via PM my problem has been solved.
[11:19] <rainmanp7> lesshate your going to have to tell us those sections of what it says in the Xorg config for the device you want to use the Section of the Name of the Device it's currently using
[11:19] <rainmanp7> syockit ohh umm not sure that's another research thing for me :)
[11:19] <lesshate> rainmanp7: ?? in any case.. they are paste binned aboce
[11:19] <lesshate> above
[11:20] <syockit> lesshate: hey, that's still intel. comment out everything from Device "Intel" until the last Option
[11:20] <syockit> comment out by inserting # at the beginning
[11:20] <lesshate> syockit: ok
[11:20] <syockit> then add a line: Device "vesa"
[11:20] <lesshate> syockit: can you remind me how to restart? I can
[11:20] <lesshate> 't scroll up :)
[11:21] <HelloNew> how to resolve dependencies ????
[11:21] <chickin> lesshate yes you can, you just don't know how
[11:21] <syockit> lesshate: I hope you've already backed up xorg.conf
[11:21] <lesshate> chickin: ah ok :) how do you scroll up in irssi?
[11:21] <lesshate> syockit: yep
[11:21] <chickin> lesshate page up
[11:21] <lesshate> chickin: ooh :)
[11:21] <lesshate> thanks
[11:21] <chickin> :-)
[11:22] <syockit> lesshate: then, delete everything in Section "Module"
[11:22] <cmdblock> who have been used wordnet in stardict software?
[11:22] <syockit> it's going to be detected automatically anyway
[11:22] <lesshate> syockit: well that just gave me GNOME Display Manager [Fail]
[11:22] <HelloNew> how to resolve dependencies ????
[11:22] <cmdblock> who have been used wordnet in stardict software?
[11:22] <chickin> syockit I thought Stallman said we all had to use "automagically" in place of "automatically" now
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> HelloNew Sounds like you need to look at what you are installing and get help from the download site as it is obvioulsy not from supported repos
[11:23] <rainmanp7> HelloNew doesn't the synaptic manager do this ?
[11:23]  * Xrhstos geia xaraaaaaa
[11:23] <chickin> HelloNew if you went into a little detail we may be able to help further
[11:23] <rainmanp7> HelloNew try using the update under admin ;) at first
[11:23] <chickin> HelloNew what are you installing?
[11:23] <syockit> chickin: Well, if you didn't see that was going to happen, you can say automagically
[11:24] <chickin> syockit there's no way he saw it coming
[11:24] <lesshate> syockit: ok so I have http://pastebin.com/f5c8abe50
[11:24] <lesshate> syockit: is that what you had in mind?
[11:24] <chickin> syockit dude doesn't know how to scroll up. It's all magic to him.
[11:24] <lesshate> chickin: cheeky!
[11:24] <lesshate> chickin: I am not using in irssi
[11:24] <lesshate> chickin: I mean.. not usually using
[11:24] <chickin> lesshate just jokes
[11:24] <lesshate> chickin: :)
[11:24] <chickin> lesshate less hate, more love
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[11:25] <syockit> lesshate: yup. I see it still didn't work
[11:25] <chickin> Jack_Sparrow oh, I'm sorry, I forgot not to talk OT in here
[11:26] <Eukanuba> evenin' everyone
[11:26] <chickin> Jack_Sparrow I know it can distract from the questions being asked
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi
[11:26] <lesshaste> syockit: so given that is my xorg.conf now... how shall I try to start X?
[11:26] <chickin> Eukanuba please ask your question
[11:27] <chickin> !ask
[11:27] <rainmanp7> !ask startx
[11:27] <chickin> rainmanp7 what's the problem? startx not starting X?
[11:27] <lesshaste> if I do startx I get that amazing error
[11:27] <syockit> lesshate: comment out Sections "DRI" and "Extensions" as ell
[11:28] <rainmanp7> chicken trying to see if the bot thing can tell me how to do it ;)
[11:28] <lesshaste> chickin: I can't get X to work
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !fishing
[11:28] <lesshaste> chickin: well.. it used to work
[11:28] <chickin> lesshaste hmm, and I guess if I look at that pastebin I'll find a whole config file ...
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste what video card and which release of ubuntu
[11:29] <syockit> lesshaste: or, if you don't have any x running, try xorg -configure
[11:29] <rainmanp7> lesshate can I ask if it worked before (-What Changed-) to make it not work now ?
[11:29] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow: intrepid, intel graphics... probably i915?
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> line113 still shows vesa
[11:30] <lesshaste> syockit: the vesa error message is amazing.. I am trying to work out how to show it to you as it doesn't seem to be logged
[11:30] <syockit> Jack_Sparrow: I told him to use vesa for now
[11:30] <lesshaste> syockit: how do you pipe standard error ?
[11:30] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow: you should see the error I get from the vesa driver!
[11:32] <syockit> lesshate: maybe you can redirect output to file using >
[11:32] <chickin> newbs give me a headache
[11:32] <syockit> lesshaste: (command) > (output file)
[11:32] <lesshaste> ok guys... check out http://pastebin.com/f3f037f55
[11:32] <syockit> lesshate: also, mouse is enabled in tty through package gpm
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste Did you try and pull in the xorg form an earlier version?
[11:32] <lesshaste> syockit: ah yes thanks
[11:32] <joe2> having problems with intel graphics chipset, was working, not any more. If some one can help can you im me pls.
[11:32] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow: I didn't.. how should I do that?
[11:32] <lesshaste> joe2: that's me too :)
[11:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste Just trying to figure out where you got that xorg for intrepid
[11:33] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks.. did you see the amazing vesa error?
[11:33] <lesshaste> I have never seen anything so fatal
[11:33] <syockit> lesshate: ok this time, try renaming xorg.conf to something else (like xorg.conf.lama), and restart x by: /etc/gdm restart
[11:33] <syockit> It should start without xorg.conf
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste agreed ..lose that xorg and start fresh
[11:34] <lesshaste> syockit: oh.. ok..the gdm command always just fails
[11:34] <lesshaste> syockit: so how should I start it?
[11:34] <oCean_> lesshaste: syockit that would be /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:34] <lesshaste> oCean_: fails too
[11:34] <syockit> I thought restart would start even if it's stopped
[11:35] <Eukanuba> chikin, is it alright if i just watch and read the channel ?
[11:35] <syockit> what does the fail say?
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Eukanuba feel free to lurk or gep the logs if you like
[11:35] <lesshaste> syockit: just the one line saying [Fail] at the end
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !logs
[11:36] <ValentineX> can i create live usb disk on ipod?
[11:36] <SAJMIRI> Hello to all,i have a problem with ubuntu 8.10 i cannot conect to internet
[11:36] <SAJMIRI> i have create a wired connection 1 and put all ips and dns numbers
[11:36] <lesshaste> gpm is running but I can't see how to paste with my two buttons :) the right and left click trick doesn't work
[11:36] <SAJMIRI> but cant open the pages
[11:37] <syockit> lesshate: I wonder what that is? you sure you have no X running? do: ps -e | egrep 'xorg|gdm'
[11:37] <lesshaste> ok.. so
[11:37] <lesshaste> X now starts using vesa!!
[11:37] <lesshaste> hooray :)
[11:37] <syockit> woo nice
[11:37] <rainmanp7> lesshate Congrats!
[11:37] <lesshaste> going to switch to xchat
[11:37] <lesshaste> back in a tick
[11:37] <SAJMIRI> anyone can help me?
[11:37] <ValentineX> I am trying create image on ipod with live usb start up disrk and it stuck on installing
[11:38] <syockit> !ask | SAJMIRI
[11:38] <lesshaste> hi syockit / Jack_Sparrow
[11:38] <lesshaste> so deleting xorg.conf was the key to getting vesa to work
[11:39] <ValentineX> SAJMIRI: tell some more details what kind of internet you are trying etc
[11:39] <syockit> lesshaste: It makes xorg autodetect your settings
[11:39] <SAJMIRI> ubottu: ok ,iam sorry
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste getting rid of that nastly xorg was.. yes
[11:39] <lesshaste> right
[11:39] <syockit> lesshaste: anyway, it's weird it didn't detect your intel
[11:39] <lesshaste> syockit, what do you mean? Where might that have happened?
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste not just try switching vesa to intel
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> not I810
[11:40] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, by simply editing the one line?
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> yea, you know how th change it bak.. right
[11:40] <ValentineX> syockit: mine intel also not detected
[11:40] <syockit> lesshaste: you sure it's using vesa? try checking xorg.0.log again
[11:40] <rainmanp7> Jack_Sparrow don't do it ;)
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste While YOu try that I will look for my notes
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> rainmanp7 dont do what
[11:41] <syockit> Jack_Sparrow: he wasn't using i810 module anyway
[11:41] <lesshaste> syockit, http://pastebin.com/f472db93
[11:42] <lesshaste> syockit, it says it has found intel and also that it is using vesa
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste IS that the new one that was generated?
[11:42] <lesshaste> syockit, I don't know how to intrepret that
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste we need to see lsb_release -a
[11:43] <md22> hello
[11:43] <randagio> qual è il canale italiano raga???
[11:43] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, that was the log
[11:43] <joe2> is there some where gd online to try and sort the intel chipset problem out, i think it is a common problem, have tried ubuntu forums, have downloaded latest xf86 but not sure how install it
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !it > randagio
[11:44] <syockit> lesshaste: that one looks like when you did xorg -configure
[11:44] <rbowes> Morning all
[11:44] <rainmanp7> Gdmorning
[11:44] <rbowes> I'm trying to enable the jave 64-bit plugin on Intrepid
[11:44] <lesshaste> syockit, sorry which one does? to be clear.. I moved xorg.conf out of the way and ran startx and then gave you the log
[11:44] <rbowes> *java
[11:44] <rbowes> *Sun java
[11:45] <lesshaste> syockit, sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:45] <rbowes> I found this page: http://luke.faraone.cc/2009/01/native-64bit-java-plugin-in-ubuntu/
[11:45] <syockit> lesshaste: hmm. it looks like it's using intel driver for now
[11:45] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, lsb_release -a says 8.10
[11:45] <rbowes> The commands in that article succeed
[11:45] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, are there any particular details you need?
[11:45] <rbowes> But I don't get a working plugin in Firefox
[11:45] <lesshaste> syockit, it also says vesa right?
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !java64
[11:45]  * oCean_ applied kernel updates.. booting
[11:46] <syockit> lesshaste: yup, but that is because it loads everything available
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste no, im just on the wrong computer for those notes
[11:46] <rbowes> Jack_Sparrow, thx - reading now
[11:46] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, ah ok :)
[11:46] <lesshaste> syockit, ok.. does it actually make a config file?
[11:46] <lesshaste> syockit, it seems not
[11:46] <rainmanp7> lesshaste do you have a link for your xorg.conf ? the current version that's working
[11:46] <lesshaste> rainmanp7, I am not sure it makes one
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste it does, may we see it
[11:46] <syockit> syockit: no, that's how it's going to work from now on
[11:46] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <lesshaste> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[11:47] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, there are lots of files that start xorg.conf there
[11:47] <syockit> lesshaste: yes that should be correct
[11:47] <lesshaste> backups etc.
[11:47] <jim_p> !kubuntu
[11:47] <syockit> lesshaste: if you still want xorg.conf, you can do xorg -configure again
[11:47] <syockit> and copy the created xorg.conf.new
[11:47] <lesshaste> syockit, ok thanks.. but I see I don't really need one :)
[11:47] <syockit> but I don't recommend it
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:48] <lesshaste> well.. thanks all.. I would love to now make a useful bug report
[11:48] <guoguo> 各位朋友好，有没说中文的
[11:48] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, it's not there...
[11:48] <syockit> I needed it though, because hal doesn't load my touchscreen driver
[11:48] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, it doesn't make one
[11:48] <syockit> lesshaste: so you have your desktop running?
[11:48] <lesshaste> syockit,yep.. all up and happy :)
[11:48] <syockit> because you started with startx
[11:48] <lesshaste> Sylphid, yes
[11:48] <lesshaste> oops
[11:48] <lesshaste> syockit,
[11:48] <lesshaste> yes
[11:48] <FloodBot3> lesshaste: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <lesshaste> sorry sir bot
[11:49] <syockit> I wonder why gdm failed. if you will, try restarting and see if login appears
[11:49] <syockit> if not, maybe gdm is problematic
[11:49] <guoguo> 有没说汉语的？？
[11:49] <lesshaste> syockit, would you mind if I go that in a bit.. I need to read my emails and it's 11:49am :)
[11:49] <rbowes> Jack_Sparrow, as I read it, http://luke.faraone.cc/2009/01/native-64bit-java-plugin-in-ubuntu/ says the latest Sun JRE has native 64-bit plugin support
[11:49] <syockit> !cn | guoguo
[11:49] <lesshaste> thanks all in any case!
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !cn
[11:49] <etfb> Thinking of getting a Compaq laptop.  Anyone know how they go with Ubuntu compatibility, generally?
[11:50] <guoguo> 谢谢了，其实更想直接与你们汉语交流，因为不太懂英语，呵呵
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !cn > guoguo
[11:50] <O__o> haha
[11:50] <SiDi> Pretty sure it's japanese
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> SiDi ip chows  china
[11:50] <syockit> Unless it's got certification by somebody/some company, you can't guarantee everything works
[11:51] <O__o> it is chinese
[11:51] <O__o> simplify chinese
[11:51] <rbowes> So, am I mistaken?
[11:51] <SiDi> Okey then :P
[11:51] <O__o> this is japanese - こにちわ
[11:51] <syockit> SiDi: boku wakarimasen yo. Kitto chuugokugo deshou
[11:51] <md22> is 2gb or ram ok for a ubuntu system that will be running postgresql,apache tomcat, apache http with (php,mod_perl and mod mono) oat the same time?
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Behave...
[11:51] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, thanks to you too :)
[11:51] <syockit> O__o: sonna no, ese-nihongo  daro
[11:52] <SiDi> md22: yes it should be ok
[11:52] <md22> ok thanks
[11:52] <syockit> md22: cool setup! 2gb is ok, but see processing power
[11:52] <O__o> nihongo chotto
[11:52] <SiDi> md22: by default on a server it uses like 50mb (that's what i was getting with apache2+php mod)
[11:52] <md22> processor is amd athlon x2 5400
[11:52] <etfb> md22: RAM is cheap though.  Why waste your time when for $50 you could double your memory?
[11:52] <SiDi> md22: i don't know about processors :)
[11:53] <md22> 2.8GHZ
[11:53] <SiDi> etfb: you mean 20 maybe ?
[11:53] <syockit> md22: good enough I think
[11:53] <SAJMIRI> i have a problem i cant connect the internet in ubuntu 8.10
[11:53] <SiDi> md22: unless you get thousands of clients all the time it should be ok
[11:53] <therootest> i want to create a LAN through a router/swich between kubuntu and xubuntu. Which programm i need and how can i make it?
[11:53] <md22> ok
[11:53] <syockit> you guys are lucky. My notebook uses a very peculiar microDIMM that costs almost $500 for a 2gb
[11:53] <syockit> and the pc has only 1 slot
[11:54] <etfb> SiDi: 2Gb for $20?  Where do you shop?
[11:54] <etfb> syockit: Doomed then.  You could replace the whole thing for that much.
[11:54] <O__o> yes 2GB laptop ram $20
[11:54] <O__o> in boxing day
[11:54] <syockit> etfb: yeah, but after parting from vista, I don't see the need for that
[11:55] <etfb> O__o: I'd expect to pay $50 retail at the local computer fair.  That's Australian dollars, and Australian prices.
[11:55] <syockit> Now I just want another box to do server/compiling jobs
[11:55] <SiDi> etfb: in france it's about 15-25€ for 2GB. let's say 25-40 $
[11:55] <O__o> $20 canadian 2GB laptop ram
[11:55] <etfb> syockit: It's certainly true that Ubuntu breathes new life into old hardware.  As long as it's not the hardware you're "living in".
[11:55] <etfb> O__o: Freaky.
[11:55] <O__o> ram is cheao now
[11:55] <syockit> the thing is if it comes with vista it's hardly old
[11:55] <therootest> i want to create a LAN through a router/swich between kubuntu and xubuntu. Which programm i need and how can i make it?
[11:56] <SiDi> therootest: do you need help on setting the network or on software to communicat ebetween the pc ?
[11:56] <etfb> I guess it's the cost of rotating all the cargo containers so they'll be upside down when they reach Australia...
[11:56] <SAJMIRI> >	i have a problem i cant connect the internet in ubuntu 8.10
[11:56] <oCean_> !ot
[11:56] <SiDi> therootest: once the network is up, use SSH for remote access, and VNC for remote graphical access
[11:56] <therootest> sidi, how can i make the network?
[11:56] <O__o> i bought 2GB cosair 2X1GB ram 667GHz for like $300 2 months ago
[11:57] <O__o> $30
[11:57] <etfb> So, speaking of buying hardware: anyone got any horror stories about Compaqs running Ubuntu?
[11:57] <O__o> not $300
[11:57] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: it would help to say if wifi/ethernet/usb, what ISP eventually, etc
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !details
[11:57] <SAJMIRI> ethernet
[11:57] <SAJMIRI> sidi ethernet
[11:58] <joe2> intel graphics card not working help please, im me!
[11:58] <SiDi> therootest: plug an ethernet cable, click on the network manager icon, and voila :P
[11:58] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: does your adsl box have DHCP ?
[11:58] <britline> clear
[11:58] <syockit> joe2: yeah you said it before. Not detected, was it?
[11:58] <jarco> what would be the command line command to add a comma (,) behind every line in a text file?
[11:59] <caio> any software to split my desktop in tabs? to organize my files in desktop.
[11:59] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: iam a noob, in my other computer _vista_ i just put the cable and configure the ips and it is connected
[11:59] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: it's meant to be exactly the same. Did you use any ISP cd on your windows PC ?
[11:59] <SAJMIRI> SiDi:  no
[11:59] <britline> halo all
[11:59] <britline> halooooo
[12:00] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: then it should be exactly the same. You have a network icon (on the top right if i remember well), when you click it theres an "eth0" radio button, check it
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi > britline
[12:00] <HelloNew> hi britline
[12:00] <britline> hi jack
[12:00] <etfb> An easier question: anyone have any horror stories about running Ubuntu on an Acer notebook?
[12:00] <therootest> SiDi: i am on the kubuntu and i cannot see any network manager icons here. can you help me, please?
[12:00] <britline> hi hellonew
[12:00] <britline> i was try ircII
[12:00] <jimmyspark> guys if anyone would like to see a third menu for ubuntu, a super menu which i think would make the dekstop more familiar for windows converts then plz vote my idea here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17733/
[12:00] <HelloNew> britline are u good in ubuntu?
[12:00] <britline> very cool
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb You can look up supported hardware, but that question is inappropiate for the support channel
[12:01] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: when you try this, is there an error ? if you want to manually setup the IP then right click, "Modify connexions", click on "eth0", then the modify button, and go to the IPv4 tab to specify manual IP
[12:01] <unop> jarco,  sed -i 's/$/,/' file
[12:01] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: yes i have checked it,and i have created a wired connection 1 ,puted the ips dsn and netmask ,click ok and i says to me is connected,but cannot open a page
[12:01] <britline> but very dificult to
[12:01] <jarco> thx unop
[12:01] <SiDi> therootest: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu ? i don't know about kubuntu though
[12:01] <joe2> think it is detected jus not working anymore
[12:01] <therootest> sidi, the one pc is kubuntu and the other xubuntu.
[12:01] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: can you try to ping your router please ?
[12:01] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: Is it?  Weird.  The hardware compatibility list is a pitiful joke.  I was hoping there'd be enough people here with enough experience that someone would know where I could look for real answers at least.
[12:01] <SiDi> therootest: you should see it at least under xubuntu, i'm on it and i see it.
[12:02] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: i dont have a router
[12:02] <SiDi> therootest: try Alt+F2, and type "nm-applet", and tell me what you see
[12:02] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: router = ADSL box
[12:02] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: open and console and type "ping <box ip>" and tell me if it answers
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb You can look try offtopic for discussion or there was a linux laptop project with some decent info
[12:03] <therootest> sidi, there is no such applet.
[12:03] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: no i dont have one,the isp gave me a cable ,it is like a lan cable and it comes from a wireless anntena
[12:03] <O__o> etfb, having problem with laptop?
[12:03] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: The idea of "on topic" is certainly tighter here than I remember.  Ah well.  I'll google for "linux laptop project" and see what I can find.
[12:03] <SiDi> therootest: nm-applet should be installed on any default ubuntu install. Didn't you manually remove "NetworkManager" ? if so i can't help you
[12:04] <therootest> sidi, how can i remove network manager? i dont think i 've removed anything.
[12:04] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: oh i see. Well they give you an IP for gateway, don't they ?
[12:04] <etfb> O__o: No, just about to upgrade from my (well-behaved, compatible) Toshiba to something else, and I want to know what to avoid -- apart from Acer, all of which appear to be ideal  for use as very large beer coasters.
[12:04] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: what if you ping google.com ?
[12:04] <O__o> get a dell mini9
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb If you asked a specific hardware question giving make and model of your hardware and which release it would not be any question about ot.  But asking for stoories about acre laptops.. not
[12:05] <O__o> it works fine in every OS
[12:05] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: should i try it now?
[12:05] <SiDi> therootest: no idea and i'm about to leave, so i can't take the time to investigate. You should have an app called "nm-applet" that launches the network manager's applet
[12:05] <riz0n> how can i reboot sound under ubuntu?
[12:05] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: yes please
[12:05] <therootest> sidi, ty :) bb
[12:05] <britline> sajmiri : can you tell me what your problem?? sory..
[12:05] <O__o> windows XP, vista, ubuntu, xubuntu, osx, etc
[12:05] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: ok wait me some seconds
[12:05] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: Fair enough.  I'll go pray to Google for guidance.
[12:05] <tomodachi> riz0n: maybe /etc/init/pulseaudio restart could do it
[12:05] <SiDi> britline: he has his ethernet connexion apparently correctly configured but in his browser no pages popup
[12:06] <O__o> or bring the liveCD with u when buying laptop
[12:06] <O__o> insert the liveCD and see if it will boot fine
[12:06] <rainmanp7> test the internet with livce etc..
[12:06] <syockit> O__o: ah, never thought of that! anyways, !ot
[12:06] <britline> cek offline mode in browser
[12:06] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: use the command "route -n" There should be a line starting "<IP_ADDRESS>" the 2nd field on that line is your default gateway. Are you able to ping *that* address and getting an echo reply?
[12:06] <O__o> also work for desktop too
[12:06] <britline> oww
[12:07] <riz0n> tomodachi: thanks, just tried that, didn't help, also tried restarting "alsa" and it didn't help much either.. guess i am going to have to reboot the whole computer :\
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> FOr those that had not seen it.. A free Ubuntu book, and a good one from as much as I have read so far..  http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html
[12:07] <tomodachi> riz0n: doit
[12:07] <tomodachi> doit now
[12:07] <riz0n> oh im going to lol
[12:07] <O__o> free book?
[12:07] <O__o> wow how many pages?
[12:07] <MeLinux> #ubuntu.it
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> O__o yep free in pdf
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> O__o yep free in pdf   150 or  so
[12:08] <O__o> let me dl 1st
[12:08] <SAJMIRI> sidi; i pinged it
[12:08] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: do you mean google or the default gateway?
[12:09] <SAJMIRI> sidi: in the terminal showed me unknown host
[12:09] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: for ping google, that is?
[12:09] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: yes
[12:09] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: ok. type "route -n" Is there a line starting "<IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[12:10] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: where should i type route-n
[12:10] <britline> sori DC
[12:10] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: open a terminal and use command "route -n"
[12:10] <O__o> the book is alright
[12:10] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: command not found
[12:10] <O__o> not interesting
[12:11] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: i dont have a router
[12:11] <britline> router??? no no
[12:11] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: it's route<space>-n --> "/sbin/route -n"
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> O__o It is better than most and you could not have done much reading in the 60 seconds you looked at it
[12:12] <britline> clear
[12:12] <britline> eh
[12:12] <britline> ups
[12:12] <O__o> i guess
[12:12]  * Xrhstos kalh synexeia
[12:12] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: it showed me some info////// Kernel ip routing table
[12:12] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: that's oke
[12:12] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: destination gateway genmask flags metric  use iface
[12:12] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: no need to paste it here
[12:12] <britline> can you paste into this window
[12:13] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: ok
[12:13] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: on the line starting with "<IP_ADDRESS>".. the 2nd field is your gateway
[12:13] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: yes i have configured it to <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:13] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: are you able to ping *that* address? Not the <IP_ADDRESS> of course
[12:14] <hobong> Hello all ..
[12:14] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: That's not correct. You're mentioning a netmask, not an ip address
[12:14] <hobong> Need help here
[12:14] <syockit> !ask | hobong
[12:14] <hobong> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 II
[12:14] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: what should i do
[12:15] <hobong> my mousecan not work  after change from usb mouse to ps2 mouse
[12:15] <quibbler> Jack_Sparrow, another e book by the same author: http://www.mininova.org/tor/1947700
[12:15] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: I'm not sure how you configured your network settings. But if you're doing it by hand, you should change the default route to a real address
[12:16] <syockit> no dhcp?
[12:16] <O__o> ubuntu kung fu nice name
[12:16] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: i pluged the cable and editet the eth0 ,filled the field with ips and dns and netmask
[12:16] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: how to change in real address
[12:17] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: does your machine get its ip from the provider by dhcp? Automatically I mean
[12:17] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: i dont know
[12:17] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: well, what ip did you use, how did you know to use that specific ip ?
[12:18] <SAJMIRI> the isp came here and configured it here
[12:18] <syockit> oh, bummer
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> hobong have you rebooted since you installed the ps2 mouse
[12:18] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: a month ago  DNS server ips was another
[12:18] <dou213> hey guys how can i see which version of ubuntu i've got curently installed?
[12:18] <syockit> then you better check the network settings windows box
[12:18] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: ok. So the isp should have the information on the default gateway to. We're not able to provide you with that info.
[12:18] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: now i see it is different
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> dou213 lsb_release -a
[12:19] <syockit> *on the windows box
[12:19] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: well, your route table *and* your dns config should be in order to connect to internet successfully
[12:19] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: you'll have to ask your isp for correct settings
[12:20] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: in my lap top i have 2 OSs ubuntu and vista
[12:20] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: when i boot with vista internet is correct
[12:20] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: ah. ok
[12:21] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: so boot into vista, get the settings there, write them down, and use them in ubuntu
[12:21] <syockit> I hope that is not a crazy case with windows causing the network card to be unusable by other os
[12:21] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: ok i will try it now
[12:21] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: if the network in vista is set to dhcp, most of the network config is done automatically, no need to edit network settings
[12:22] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: if not, then write down ip address, netmask, default gateway and dns servers
[12:23] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: how to see id dhcp i set?
[12:24] <syockit> Hmm, this calls for someone with vista knowledge
[12:24] <britline> sajmiri: ?? ubuntu or windows?
[12:24] <syockit> Windows.
[12:24] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: in windows? I really have no clue.. have not been there for ages
[12:25] <britline> SAJMIRI: crtl+r "cmd"
[12:25] <lantjie> hey guys what's up
[12:25] <lantjie> i have a question
[12:25] <britline> SAJMIRI: ipconfig/all
[12:26] <lantjie> is it useful to install nfs and nis servers
[12:26] <lantjie> ?
[12:26] <SAJMIRI> oCean_ : now i will try
[12:27] <lantjie> is it>
[12:27] <oCean_> lantjie: well, that all depends
[12:27] <lantjie> ?
[12:27] <lantjie> oke
[12:27] <lantjie> thanx
[12:27] <oCean_> lantjie: are you planning on using nfs or nis?
[12:27] <syockit> I guess certain level of knowledge of windows is useful for support staff here
[12:28] <lantjie> ocean: what is the difference? which one is good
[12:28] <lantjie> to use
[12:28] <oCean_> lantjie: nfs and nis are different things
[12:28] <britline> i have problem to cam chat, presario CQ40
[12:28] <britline> ubuntu 8.04
[12:30] <britline> can anyone solve?
[12:30] <lantjie> ocean: if i want to join a domain i use nis. And if i want to share files over the network i use nfs am i right
[12:30] <lantjie> ?
[12:30] <mikebob> huhu
[12:30] <SAJMIRI> oCean_ :thank you very much
[12:31] <SAJMIRI> i wrotten wrong the DNSs
[12:31] <mikebob> kann hier auch einer deutsch??
[12:31] <SAJMIRI> thank you
[12:31] <lantjie> somebody am i right
[12:31] <lantjie> ?
[12:32] <oCean_> lantjie: indeed. But still, you can use nfs without nis (and vice versa)
[12:32] <stryd_one> hi all
[12:32] <nargzul> I've just a question, on kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 final, I've a problem with sound: My applications doesn't have sound(amarok, firefox, ...), but when I go in the configuration panel under the "Multimedia" section, if I click "Test", I ear the sound perfectly. What is the problem?
[12:32] <lantjie> oke ocean thanx many thanx
[12:32] <quibbler> !de
[12:32] <oCean_> lantjie: and nis is not just an app to join domains.. it's more an authentication thing
[12:33] <ttmrichter> I'm having an unusual, albeit mostly just annoying, problem with automounted disks under GNOME.  Every time I want to unmount the drives, the sequence goes like this: 1) The drive unmounts (confirmed through CL mount and disappearance of icon from desktop); 2) the directory under /media that is the mount point disappears (confirmed by watching the behaviour of /media in nautilus); 3) A dialogue box pops up saying the media could not be unmounted bec
[12:33] <ttmrichter> ause the directory could not be removed; 4) Another dialogue box pops up saying ... nothing.  Just an icon and an OK button.
[12:33] <stryd_one> i hope someone can help, i need to change file type associations in bulk
[12:33] <lost_and_unfound> What is the best way I can create my own customised ubuntu environent and have it usable as a botable USB ?
[12:33] <ttmrichter> The drives unmount just fine, but it's really annoying to have those two dialogue boxes popping up all the time.  Anybody have any ideas what's going on and how I can stop this behaviour?
[12:33] <stryd_one> i don't want to do right-click/properties/etc for every type.... is there a file or better yt a GUI for editing these?
[12:34] <oCean_> ttmrichter: that is weird indeed... what are the permissions on dir /media?
[12:35] <lantjie> hey guys i need some advice from you all. what is better to use samba or nfs?
[12:36] <_ruben> !better
[12:36] <britline> ttmrichter: what option in your fstab ?
[12:38] <stryd_one> i hope someone can help, i need to change file type associations in bulk
[12:38] <stryd_one> i don't want to do right-click/properties/etc for every type.... is there a file or better yt a GUI for editing these?
[12:40] <nargzul> No-one has an idea for my problem?
[12:41] <hazhar> salam
[12:41] <britline> hazhar: walaikum salam
[12:41] <epictetus> a salam alaikum
[12:42] <britline> nargzul: what problem ?
[12:42] <hazhar> sorry hi
[12:42] <nargzul> I've just a question, on kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 final, I've a problem with sound: My applications doesn't have sound(amarok, firefox, ...), but when I go in the configuration panel under the "Multimedia" section, if I click "Test", I ear the sound perfectly. What is the problem?
[12:42] <hazhar> i am bigginer in irc
[12:42] <stryd_one> nargzul, have you tried using a different sound engine?
[12:42] <nargzul> this one ;)
[12:43] <britline> nargzul: what sound card do you have?
[12:43] <nargzul> stryd_one:  hum, I'm just totally new in kde, and I absolutly don't know how to do it
[12:43] <nargzul>  lspci | grep Audio give me: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[12:43] <stryd_one> nar: in the application, i meant...
[12:44] <shell_> !ru
[12:44] <britline> nargzul: have u cek your volume control? (mute)
[12:45] <syockit> nargzul: that one particular hardware has some notoriety in not getting to work
[12:45] <nargzul> britline: yes I've ;)
[12:45] <nargzul> But on gnome, it's works fine
[12:46] <syockit> nargzul: but since you said Multimedia tests show that it works, must be kde problem
[12:46] <syockit> nargzul: what's your kubuntu version again?
[12:46] <rbowes> Ok, I got the new native 64-bit Sun Java plugin working on Intrepid 8.10
[12:47] <rbowes> I wrote it up here: http://robinbowes.com/article.php/20090130132222337
[12:47] <keller> Ie got a question, Where can I download the program "Automatix"??
[12:47] <Frozenball> Can I install Ubuntu if I don't have empty cds or usb stick?
[12:47] <nargzul> syockit: 8.10, And I've installed the kde 4.2 final
[12:47] <Frozenball> (well, I have iPod?)
 nargzul: but since you said Multimedia tests show that it works, must be kde problem
[12:48] <keller> whre can I download automatix
[12:48] <stryd_one> does amarok even care which desktop you use?
[12:48] <britline> nargzul: lsmod | grep snd
[12:48] <syockit> nargzul: let's continue back at #kubuntu
[12:48] <eduardo>  /server -m irc.irchighway.net -j #FileWarez
[12:49] <britline> nargzul: just cek the module
[12:49] <keller> did anyone speak german here
[12:49] <nargzul> I've many things
[12:49] <Myrtti> !de | keller
[12:50] <methadone> is there an official adobe flash package from APT? or hsould I just get the installer from adobe.com ? (I'd rather use the packager)
[12:50] <tomodachi> methadone: yes there is
[12:50] <britline> nargzul: have you load the module for snd bro???
[12:50] <tomodachi> an official package
[12:50] <methadone> whats it called
[12:50] <ezerhoden> methadone: flashplugin-nonfree
[12:51] <methadone> why is it nonfree? :O
[12:51] <ezerhoden> methadone: closed source
[12:51] <methadone> another question.. will I also get an SWF player so I can run .swf files?
[12:51] <methadone> or will it atleast allow me to view SWF in traditional apps like vlc
[12:52] <stryd_one> i hope someone can help, i need to change file type associations in bulk
[12:52] <stryd_one> i don't want to do right-click/properties/etc for every type.... is there a file or better yt a GUI for editing these?
[12:52] <Stargazer> What's with all the recent kernel updates ?
[12:52] <ttmrichter> oCean_: Sorry for the delay.  Was AFK.  Permissions are: drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 4.0K 2009-01-30 20:34 media/
[12:52] <erUSUL> methadone: flashplugin-nonfree
[12:52] <erUSUL> !flash | methadone
[12:52] <nargzul> britline: No I'vnt do anything
[12:52] <ttmrichter> britline: No options in fstab.  These are USB drives being mounted and unmounted.
[12:55] <quibbler> methadone, for a stand alone swf player try swfdec in synaptic
[12:55] <lantjie> hey guys i have a tip: use nfs with kerberos or samba. nfs with kerberos is secure and samba is secure on it self
[12:55] <britline> nargzul:  modprobe snd-hda-intel,
[12:55] <britline> nargzul: in terminal
[12:56] <hazhar>  how i can chat with web in yahoo ?
[12:56] <nargzul> britline: But why, if under "Multimedia" I ear the sound-check
[12:56] <lantjie> nfs isn't secure it doesn't authenticate
[12:56] <britline> nargzul: iya yaa..
[12:57] <britline> nargzul: waduh knapa tuh ya
[12:57] <stryd_one> narz: hve you tried chaniging to a different sound system in amarok yet?
[12:57] <Merc> Ive just added a new user in ubuntu 8.10, and for some reason the user cannot access external drives or even other partitions at all. how fix?
[12:57] <virtuos> hi
[12:57] <MethinX> Could someone help me with a Thumb Drive Question?
[12:57] <nargzul> stryd_one: no I didn't, I don't know what I must choose, I Will test all
[12:58] <Derek_> <-- my gnome crashed on a bad nvidia driver update. How can fix the display error?
[12:58] <syockit> nargzul: use alsa for now
[12:58] <philipp> alles fit
[12:58] <stryd_one> nargzul, the advice the other guys have been giving is to check if it's working but you already know that it is - your problem is with specific apps, right?
[12:58] <philipp> ???
[12:58] <quibbler> !nl
[12:58] <philipp> hey
[12:59] <stryd_one> anyone know how to change file associations?
[12:59] <britline> nargzul: sory i can't help more..
[12:59] <MethinX> I have a 4 gig thumb Drive, and I want to make a script on it that when I autoload it into a computer it will automaticaly Copy certain files, and Email files, this is to simply move my Main computer between smaller computers at my company,
[12:59] <britline> nargzul: sory..
[13:00] <nargzul> stryd_one: only alsa driver don't make an error, and no sound, But I've this problem with all application I tried
[13:00] <nargzul> britline: No problems
[13:00] <Derek_> can anyone see this?
[13:00] <stryd_one> nag: you said amarok and firefox... FF is know to be tricky with audio so i figured amarok would be the prime candidate for testing
[13:00] <anurag> yes
[13:01] <Derek_> How do I un-update a video driver?
[13:01] <Derek_> without my GUI...
[13:01] <Derek_> regular recovery options did not help
[13:01] <Merc> could someone help?
[13:02] <erUSUL> !ask | Merc
[13:02] <hobong> how to change usb mouse to ps2 mouse on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[13:02] <Derek_> so then I guess no one can help me
[13:02] <Merc> Why cant users I add access my other partitions?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> hobong,  ive never had to do anything. They both worked for me.. even at the same time.. I dont think plugging a ps2 in while X is running  will work. It may need a X restart.
[13:04] <hobong> I dont know, i have ever changed the mouse from usb to ps2 but seem not working
[13:04] <Anarhist> i have lost all the accounts and mail in thunderbird after computer crash... does anybody have any idea how i can go about recovering that
[13:05] <leitao> HI, Which is the best xorg driver for the 945 Intel graphic card ?
[13:05] <britline> i cant install WineCVS.sh
[13:06] <britline> can help me?
[13:06] <bigbrovar_> any body managed to get bluetooth working in ibex?
[13:07] <XB23> guys, how do i find what processes are taking up the most ram?
[13:07] <bigbrovar_> top
[13:07] <zeltak_> asa  assasasa
[13:07] <zeltak_> sorry
[13:07] <bigbrovar_> XB23: top
[13:07] <zeltak_> mispelled utf
[13:08] <XB23> ta
[13:08] <britline> WineCVS.sh
[13:08] <zeltak_> exit
[13:08] <erUSUL> XB23: in top hit m to order by ram usage
[13:08] <XB23> can i display it with  ps
[13:08] <britline> help dong
[13:08] <bigbrovar_> XB23: or sudo apt-get install htop then run htop
[13:08] <Derek_> Is there a generic graphic card driver that might work with my Nvidia graphics card?
[13:08] <zeltak_> mm trying to learn irssi anyone using it?
[13:08] <JamesA_> !sudo
[13:08] <Derek_> <-- Is... but I am a newbiw too
[13:09] <Derek_> newbie*
[13:09] <bigbrovar_> zeltak: i do
[13:09] <bigbrovar_> its not hard
[13:09] <bigbrovar_> and its really cool esp with screen
[13:09] <zeltak_> yeah that why im trying to use it :)
[13:10] <zeltak_> can you give me a few tips?
[13:10] <Derek_> ./help is the best command - you can also use ./help [command] is useful too
[13:10] <britline> bigbrovar_: list user???
[13:10] <bigbrovar_> i used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[13:10] <deagle> hello
[13:10] <erUSUL> !nvidia | Derek_
[13:10] <deagle> could someone tell me why my printer won't print a job of more than one copy?
[13:10] <Derek_> !nvidia, I'll try that thanks
[13:10] <XB23> hmm mysql is using 120mb of ram
[13:10] <kim__> hi. is anyone here familiar with ltsp, server /clients?
[13:10] <XB23> thats not right
[13:10] <XB23> surley?
[13:11] <Druidika> hi, is there a german channel in here?
[13:11] <Derek_> !nvidia
[13:11] <kitche> Druidika: #ubuntu-de
[13:12] <Druidika> thx :-)
[13:12] <quibbler> !de
[13:12] <zeltak_> thx bigbrovar_ ill check the link
[13:12] <AussieGuy> I can see you can do "ssh -D *:1080" to set up a socks proxy on 1080, but how do you close it again? I wouldnt want to leave it open for spammers
[13:13] <JamesA_> How do I find the mount point for a removable USB flash drive that is plugged into my computer?
[13:13] <zaggynl> in /media
[13:13] <zaggynl> or places in your menu
[13:13] <kim__> dmesg
[13:13] <ds305> If it's mounted, just type "mount" and it will show you where it is mounted.
[13:14] <bigbrovar_> has anybody managed to get bluetooth in ibex intrepid to work
[13:14] <Dr_willis> JamesA_,  check the 'mount' command also
[13:15] <O__o> eog and gpicview <----- which one is more lightweight???
[13:15] <bigbrovar_> am making a laptop image for students in my school and i thinking of basing the image on ibex
[13:15] <deagle> could someone tell me why my printer won't print a job of more than one copy?
[13:15] <JamesA_> I receive the following error message when attempting to format a disk mounted at /media/KINGSTON can anyone assist? (Link: http://pastebin.com/m7ae5b333)
[13:16] <bigbrovar_> did you try using gparted
[13:16] <JamesA_> I didn't
[13:18] <stryd_one> i hope someone can help, i need to change file type associations in bulk. i don't want to do right-click/properties/etc for every type (there are a lot).... is there a file or better yet a GUI for editing these?
[13:19] <O__o> how come ubuntu dont use gpicview as default picture viewer?
[13:19] <JamesA_> I've solved my problem with gparted, thanks to bigprovar_ .
[13:19] <bascht> Hi around. Can someone help me getting rid of some weird files?
[13:19] <JamesA_> bigbrovar_ *
[13:20] <bascht> I can't delete a whole directory tree on my fs, because of stale NFS links or something like that.
[13:20] <jrib> stryd_one: ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
[13:20] <stryd_one> thanks jrib!
[13:20] <bascht> rm says that they simply aren't there - but I can see them. Just don't delete 'em. fsck reports no errors
[13:21] <jrib> stryd_one: if you don't have that file, then use the right click method once to see how it works
[13:21] <deagle> how can i get my printer to print jobs of more than one copy?
[13:21] <bigbrovar_> Has anyone managed to get bluetooth to work on ubuntu8.10
[13:21] <XB23> when i do htop
[13:21] <edgy> Hi, where can I find .deb for the latest catalyst 9.1 for intrepid?
[13:21] <XB23> i see the line
[13:21] <XB23>  /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/
[13:21] <XB23> about 11 times
[13:21] <FloodBot3> XB23: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <XB23> is that right?
[13:22] <ucrit> hi.. I'm having trouble with Hardy Amd64, The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet". help please...
[13:22] <stryd_one> jrib: I have a mimeapps.list which has a few entries, but not most of them
[13:23] <deagle> how can i get my printer to print jobs of more than one copy?
[13:24] <ortsvorsteher> need to identify key on keyboard to insert function in .Xmodmap. what i have to insert there. pastebin from xev by pressing left alt key http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[13:24] <Kenjiro> good morning
[13:24] <jrib> stryd_one: hmm.  You'll have to experiment, I'm not sure
[13:24] <Kenjiro> what should I do to upgrade my Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10?
[13:24] <kim__> reinstall
[13:24] <rconan> Kenjiro, run update-manager
[13:24] <ortsvorsteher> !upgrade | Kenjiro
[13:24] <Kenjiro> kim__: funny :P
[13:25] <kim__> it is more reliable
[13:25] <syockit> doesn't gnome have any mime editor?
[13:25] <stryd_one> thx jrib. Do you know of a file monitor app? so i can run that, and see what files are changed when i use the GUI?
[13:25] <rconan> what's the best way to install a cross-compiler on ubuntu?
[13:25] <ortsvorsteher> rconan: to update from lts you need more thyn only running update manager ;)
[13:25] <jrib> syockit: what is a "mime editor"?
[13:25] <rconan> ortsvorsteher, i forget about LTS, my bad
[13:25] <Kenjiro> kim__: what is Ubuntu based on, M$ Windows?
[13:25] <ortsvorsteher> np rconan :)
[13:25] <Kenjiro> ;)
[13:25] <ortsvorsteher> need to identify key on keyboard to insert function in .Xmodmap. what i have to insert there. pastebin from xev by pressing left alt key http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[13:25] <step21_> syockit: what is this "staff" you speak off?
[13:25] <syockit> jrib: for editing applications used for certain MIME types
[13:26] <kim__> Kenjiro: each time I upgraded things went wrong
[13:26] <syockit> staff?
[13:26] <jrib> syockit: it does
[13:26] <jrib> !defaultapp | syockit
[13:26] <Kenjiro> kim__: i don't get kindda problem with some other distros
[13:26] <syockit> jrib: no general one, to edit many at once?
[13:26] <kim__> Kenjiro: maybe cause I messed around too much before, but with a new install it is fine. I keep my home partition on a different partition
[13:26] <jrib> stryd_one: not offhand, no.  You could write something using inotify I guess
[13:27] <Kenjiro> kim__: yeah, but my wife doesn't like when I have to format her PC just to upgrade ubuntu
[13:27] <Kenjiro> kim__: so I am  hoping a few comands might do the job ;)
[13:27] <kim__> Kenjiro: anyway, I think you change all the hardy's in your /etc/apt/sources.list to inrepid, and run apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:28] <jrib> syockit: oh.  Not that I know of.  Though if you could highlight multiple files and use the nautilus procedure, that might be handy
[13:28] <[biabia]> my first ubuntu install, so i thought i'd install the kde and xfce desktops as well, to compare them. perhaps a bad idea, i settled on xfce as a preference and uninstalled gnome and kde but i still get the kubuntu desktop when i first boot
[13:28] <ucrit> what of the meaning of this "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet"."??
[13:28] <Dr_willis> [biabia],  you mean you get the KUBUNTU splasg screen/logo?
[13:28] <jrib> [biabia]: you mean the kubuntu usplash?  The kubuntu kdm?  Or what?
[13:29] <Pirat3> Hey
[13:29] <[biabia]> yes the kubuntu splash
[13:30] <Pirat3> Whats the quickest way to install Apache on Ubuntu 8.10?
[13:30] <deagle> how can i get my printer to print jobs of more than one copy?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> [biabia],  thats just a image file its using.. its trivial and dosent mean much
[13:30] <jrib> !lamp | Pirat3
[13:30] <Dr_willis> [biabia],  i got a picture of my grandbaby there. :)
[13:30] <Pirat3> Right
[13:30] <[biabia]> hm
[13:30] <Ohkie> hi guys. I seem to keep getting prompted by update manager to download the 2.6.27-11 headers..... this is the third day in a row ive downloaded them, rebooted and a day later have them come back?
[13:30] <[biabia]> i dont have any grandbabys
[13:30] <izinucs>  Pirat3 do you only want apache or also php and mysql?
[13:31] <Dr_willis> !usplash
[13:31] <[biabia]> i'd like a rat there
[13:31] <jrib> [biabia]: apt-cache search -n edubuntu usplash      , then either install or reconfigure the package
[13:31] <Pirat3> I would like PHP MySQL and Apache
[13:31] <Pirat3> :)
[13:31] <Pirat3> How do I install LAMP?
[13:31] <jrib> Pirat3: read the link ubottu gave you
[13:31] <Pirat3> Okay
[13:31] <bullgard4> What is the purpose/function of the process kondemand/0?
[13:32] <[biabia]> thanks Dr_willis  and jrib
[13:32] <CrownAmbassador> I know this completely off topic but I think this is the best place to do this. I was thinking those who wants to can post their twitter username so we can all connect via twitter?
[13:32] <methadone> Is there a definitive guide on how to enable BACK/FORWARD mouse buttons under Nautilus? (I've a Logitech MX Revolution)
[13:32] <jrib> CrownAmbassador: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:32] <izinucs> Pirat3, open System > Admin > Synaptic Pkg Manager > Edit > Mark packages by Task .. and in there you'll see the option for LAMP
[13:32] <CrownAmbassador> jrib: didn't now that exists. Thanks
[13:32] <Dr_willis> methadone,  ive seen some really good guides on the Gentoo forums/docs about tweaking to death different mice. :) but i dont use those buttons for that feature
[13:32] <jrib> methadone: I have the same mouse.  Just bind those keys to alt-left and alt-right on your keyboard using xbindkeys for example
[13:33] <Pirat3> One more question, does the PHP in LAMP have addons already installed? I need a few like GD, Memcache, mbstrings etc.
[13:33] <methadone> jrib; kewl
[13:34] <jrib> methadone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111667/  here's mine.  Ignore the comments and the look_up_selection line.  It makes the wheel on the left cycle through tabs and clicking it closes a tab (modify accordingly)
[13:34] <ortsvorsteher> need to identify key on keyboard to insert function in .Xmodmap. what i have to insert there. pastebin from xev by pressing left alt key http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[13:34] <izinucs> Pirat3, you can always add what you need.. if you use my method with synaptic it pulls most of the basic stuff.. occationally you need to ad the gd portion..
[13:34] <syockit> Pirat3: check the about php using phpinfo() or something. or you haven't installed but want to know?
[13:34] <methadone> jrib; does it have a gui ?
[13:35] <Pirat3> I havn't instaled :P
[13:35] <quibbler> Kenjiro, system>administration>software sources>updates>release upd
[13:35] <jrib> methadone: xbindkeys?  Maybe?  I don't know.  You just edit ~/.xbindkeysrc and then xbindkeys runs in the background
[13:35] <Pirat3> installled*
[13:35] <Knysliux001> hello
[13:36] <Kenjiro> quibbler: upgrade already going
[13:36] <Kenjiro> quibbler: thanks too
[13:36] <Ohkie> hi guys. I seem to keep getting prompted by update manager to download the 2.6.27-11 headers..... this is the third day in a row ive downloaded them, rebooted and a day later have them come back?
[13:36] <syockit> Pirat3: some are available as installable package. else, you might need to use pear or something
[13:36] <Kenjiro> ok, NOW the real download is running hehehehee
[13:37] <marc__> nick toto
[13:37] <marc__> nickname toto
[13:37] <kim__> if anyone here is a boff and knows LTSP, please chat to me thanks
[13:37] <jrib> Ohkie: pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[13:37] <Am3ndment> Hello, after latest kernel update my ubuntu wont boot
[13:37] <syockit> marc__: /nick?
[13:37] <jrib> kim__: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[13:37] <liorc6> do ubuntu have a feature where i can browse the internet via proxy and to get 100% privacy without leaving any files or data in the computer ?
[13:37] <kim__> I need a list of clients connected to LTSP server
[13:37] <Guppy`> oooooooooooooo we aint in kansas anymore huh?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> !tor | liorc6
[13:38] <Dr_willis> liorc6,  bad url. :) check out 'tor' and
[13:38] <izinucs> Am3ndment, did you have a video driver installed you got outside the repos?
[13:38] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I'm trying to set up a VPN connection with NM.  The Add button in "Network Connections" is grayed out.  What's going on?
[13:38] <howtoo> how can  I decompress the default ubuntu initrd.img?
[13:38] <Dr_willis> liorc6,  bad url. :) check out 'tor' and  privoxy.  - also theres firefox extensions that help do that
[13:38] <Dr_willis> !info tor
[13:38] <liorc6> okay thanks
[13:38] <Am3ndment> izinucs, i have installed it from repos. My comp crashes when it loads ubuntu, about 3 and half blocks
[13:39] <methadone> jrib; I have to get xmacroplay aswell ?
[13:40] <izinucs> Am3ndment, you might need to load the live cd and change the kernel line in your regular boot by removing "quiet splash" so you can see what's going on while booting.. it willl give you a good indication of what's failing.
[13:40] <jrib> methadone: no, that's commented (! is used to comment).  You do need xvkbd though
[13:40] <Ohkie> jrib: apparently the output trips the spam filter of pastebin.com ;)
[13:40] <jrib> Ohkie: wow, use paste.ubuntu.com
[13:41] <Knysliux001> Is it possible to use mac address filters in ufw firewall? Can't find anything about this.
[13:41] <Am3ndment> Hmh, maybe i just change grub to boot 27-9
[13:41] <simey00irc> !ops jpeg
[13:41] <Ohkie> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111673/
[13:41] <tomaw> simey00irc?
[13:41] <tomaw> hrmm
[13:42] <jrib> Ohkie: run it once
[13:42] <Am3ndment> izinucs, if i keep booting from kernel 2.6.27-9 will it cause me problems in longer run?
[13:43] <Ohkie> jrib: ok going now...... bout 3 minutes to go
[13:43] <jrib> Ohkie: i'll be back in ~10
[13:43] <Ohkie> jrib: okie dokie
[13:43] <massi> hi everyone
[13:44] <izinucs> Am3ndment, no.. not necessarily.. but you should figure out what's up with it.. eventually you'll hve to upgrade
[13:45] <Am3ndment> izinucs, what should i be looking for from logs?
[13:45] <Pirat3> Right
[13:45] <Pirat3> Any idea how I can install a Belkin wireless adapter?
[13:46] <izinucs> Am3ndment, not really sure .. anything out of the ordinary
[13:46] <Am3ndment> Hmh... :D
[13:47] <Am3ndment> Where is boot log saved?
[13:47] <kunwon1> Am3ndment, dmesg
[13:47] <poh> I messed my sound configuration up somehow and was wondering if there was a way for me to rerun the sound configuration tool that the installer runs?
[13:48] <Am3ndment> poh, you mean alsamixer?
[13:48] <massi> or alsaconf ?
[13:49] <jrib> Ohkie: are you still prompted to upgrade if you run the command again?
[13:49] <Ohkie> jrib: it wants me to reboot...... but ill try running the command again
[13:49] <jrib> Ohkie: ok, reboot then
[13:50] <Ohkie> ok
[13:50] <Ohkie> brb :P
[13:50] <poh> maybe alsaconf
[13:50] <poh> massi: is that what the ubuntu install disk uses to set up audio?
[13:51] <cdavis> Is there a tsclient *like* program for kde?
[13:51] <massi> i don't know.. in other distros, when i first installed alsa-base i used alsaconf to automatic set up my audio, but i can't find it under ubuntu..
[13:51] <SlimeyPete> cdavis: krdc?
[13:52] <unop> cdavis, you can use tsclient under KDE
[13:52] <cdavis> unop: I can't figure out how to put it in the panel like in gnome?
[13:52] <MeLinux> come si fa ad andare al canale italiano?
[13:52] <unop> !it | MeLinux
[13:53] <poh> massi: It is in alsa-utils. let me try it out
[13:53] <poh> massi: thank you
[13:53] <massi> no problem ;)
[13:53] <unop> cdavis, hmm, i wouldn't know about that .. i've never run KDE for long
[13:54] <Knysliux001> So ufw can't use mac address?
[13:54] <Ohkie> jrib: no im not prompted again now. is it possible that im somehow downloading nightly builds or something?
[13:54] <Pirat3> Any idea on how to install a Belkin F5D7050 wireless adapter?
[13:54] <UrsusTas> Ohkie, $ sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[13:55] <Ohkie> ursustas: is there a way to check what is currently being used?
[13:55] <izinucs> Pirat3, plug it in.. it should work..
[13:58] <Ohkie> jrib/ursustas: how can i check whats currently being used rather than just changing something?
[13:58] <wips> I'm having a really hard time getting a VGA driver for xubuntu, I installed xubuntu 8.10 yesterday and feel like I'm all out of ideas.
[13:58] <izinucs> wips, what kind of video card?
[13:59] <Dr_willis> VGA driver = the 'vesa' driver isent it?
[13:59] <oljenkorsi> problems with ati mobility radeon 9600 M10 too :/
[13:59] <UrsusTas> Ohkie, $ uname -r
[13:59] <wips> izinucs, well, I think I used nvidia drivers when I had ubuntu before I installed xubuntu.. but if It says SiS (Silicon Integrated Systems)..
[13:59] <IcyPolecat> quick questions about user accounts. I have a system user account and need to be able to su to it to generate ssh keys but it won't let me. Also ssh doesn't work woth that username. Any idea how I can modify this user to allow these actions?
[13:59] <Ohkie> ursustas: 2.6.27-11-generic
[14:00] <izinucs> wips, SiS can be a pain..
[14:00] <ortsvorsteher> need to identify key on keyboard to insert function in .Xmodmap. what i have to insert there. pastebin from xev by pressing left alt key http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[14:00] <JamesA_> Can I program for languages such as C, C++, C# and VB using Ubuntu? If so, what do I require?
[14:00] <wips> izinucs, Yep, had problems with it before... Irritating >.<
[14:01] <wips> izinucs, But it worked in ubuntu, so there's gotta be something I can do in xubuntu..
[14:01] <izinucs> wips, check this link out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=345492
[14:01] <Dr_willis> JamesA_,  "visualbasic' - err.. proberly not exactly.. others.. yes
[14:01] <Pirat3> How do I install LAMP on uBuntu 8.10
[14:01] <JamesA_> DR_willis I'm currently programming in Visual Basic .net
[14:01] <Ohkie> jamesA_: look into the mono project
[14:01] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: from which user to which one you need to su?
[14:01] <izinucs> Pirat3, open System > Admin > Synaptic Pkg Manager > Edit > Mark packages by Task .. and in there you'll see the option for LAMP
[14:01] <Dr_willis> JamesA_,  you have my Deepest Sympathies then...
[14:02] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: i need to su FROM rob TO nagios
[14:02] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: and as rob type "su - nagios"
[14:02] <jrib> Ohkie: apt-cache policy PACKAGE will tell you where the package is coming from
[14:02] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: with the dash?
[14:03] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: yes, in an terminal in a bash shell.
[14:03] <Pici> !compile > JamesA_
[14:03] <Pici> !ide > JamesA_
[14:03] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: ok - done that and it didn't work - am still showing as rob@monitor ...
[14:04] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: do you get any error message? what says you now when you type "id" ?
[14:04] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111689/
[14:05] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: please "grep rob /etc/passwd" and "grep nagios /etc/passwd"
[14:05] <Ohkie> jrib: should i just run the safe-upgrade command and be done with it? :)
[14:06] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111691/
[14:06] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: nagios has a /bin/false as shell. you need to change /bin/false to /bin/bash. after that you will be able to su to nagios
[14:07] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: ok - will try it...
[14:07] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: /bin/false is a dummy shell only for ftp :)
[14:09] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: SCORE!!! I assumed it was something like that but didn't know where the shell was stored. Reading the man for adduser /bin/false is for system accounts mysql, syslog snmp etc. anyway thanks for the pointer.
[14:09] <ortsvorsteher> i need to identify my left Alt key to insert function in .Xmodmap Other keys give me an keycode, left alt key not. Is here anyone able to tell me what i have to insert in .Xmodmap that left Alt key works? paste from this key is http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[14:09] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: youre welcome :)
[14:10] <jrib> Ohkie: update-manager should be doing that anyway
[14:10]  * ortsvorsteher thought he gets an cookie ;)
[14:10] <Ohkie> jrib: ok
[14:11] <jrib> !cookie | ortsvorsteher
[14:11] <ortsvorsteher> :D
[14:12] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: would have given you a cookie ... had I but know how :-)
[14:12] <vock> Using 8.10, just tried to upgrade the kernel and it still says i'm using 2.26.24-19, and grub still says my default OS is Ubuntu 8.04, any way to fix this?
[14:13] <adaptr> vock: reboot
[14:13] <vock> adaptr: Did that a bunch of times, no workie :(
[14:13] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: no problem. now i know, 2 years of user administration is been good :)
[14:13] <homy> Hi! How can I make an iso (or other type of image) of a cd that has some bad sectors? I tried all at http://www.alterego7.com/2008/01/howto-creating-iso-filecd-image-in.html, but it all failed.
[14:13] <adaptr> vock: if it is saying you have 8.04, then why do you think you have 8.10 ?
[14:13] <vock> adaptr: Tried updating it like 3 times so far, and rebooting, everytime i come back
[14:13] <vock> adaptr: I installed 8.10 from the synaptics update
[14:14] <izinucs> homy, it may be just too damaged
[14:14] <IcyPolecat> homy: you could try dd-rescue but am pretty sure that CD file systems are CRC dependant so missing data will corrupt the whole iso
[14:14] <jonaskoelker> vock: well, you could edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it say "Ubuntu 8.10"
[14:15] <vock> adaptr: In the About, it also says i'm using 8.10
[14:15] <maodun> I open two terminals a and b.  In a I run some process foo.  From terminal b, I would like to obtain the pid of process foo.  Anyone have any ideas on how I can do this?
[14:15] <jonaskoelker> how can I dump gnome's mimetype-program associations into mailcap format?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> Make it say 'Ubuntu  - the UBER OS!'
[14:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:15] <jonaskoelker> :D
[14:15] <vock> jonaskoelker, Sure, but that's just fixing the text, is that all that is?
[14:15] <adaptr> vock: you said "it" says you have 8.04 - WHO says this
[14:15] <Dr_willis> UberBuntu!
[14:15] <jonaskoelker> vock: that'd just be fixing the text, yes.
[14:15] <jonaskoelker> vock: you said you updated to 8.10, right?  How did the update go?
[14:16] <adaptr> vock: how many updates does 8.04 try to install when you upgrade to 8.10 ?
[14:16] <vock> adaptr: Apologies, when I go to start up manager, it says the default operating system is 8.04 with the old kernel
[14:16] <adaptr> vock: hint: it should well exceed 1000 packages
[14:16] <FlyingBishop> vock: I assume this has already been asked, but he has run sudo update-grub, right?
[14:16] <vock> adaptr: It took about 6 hours to download
[14:16] <vock> FlyingBishop, tried that also many times
[14:16] <homy> Can't the image just say something like "blocks damaged" at the specific place with the broken sectors? I can read the cd contents fine with nautilus if I put it into my cd drive, I just can't make it to an imageö.
[14:17] <vock> jonaskoelker, After the update, it said it was successful but my computer will only run in low graphics mode now, tried fixing that yesterday to no avail, and just noticed that my kernel won't upgrade
[14:18] <jonaskoelker> vock: okay.  How many packages does the upgrader want to upgrade now [just to be certain]?
[14:18] <FlyingBishop> 'vock: do you have an external drive (or even one in the same machine?)
[14:18] <vock> jonaskoelker, none
[14:18] <FlyingBishop> vock: Because a clean install would be a really good idea.
[14:18] <vock> FlyingBishop, I have 2 harddrives, one has 2 partitions with windows on one, and ubuntu on the other
[14:19] <maodun> nm, found a solution
[14:19] <jonaskoelker> vock: okay; so that means you're running 8.10, but a (presumably small) piece of the system hasn't caught on to that
[14:19] <homy> Another problem: I can't do an update: in update manager, bzr can't be updated. The command line also says bzr has been kept back. I'm using the bzr ppa in launchpad.
[14:19] <jonaskoelker> no one knows about converting gnome's mime/app associations to mailcap?
[14:19] <FlyingBishop> vock: what are the contents of /etc/issue
[14:20] <wips> izinucs, I'm trying to install a driver from the forum thread you gave me. But it wants me to copy its file to a directory that doesnt exist on my computer. /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/. I don't have that folder.
[14:20] <vock> FlyingBishop, Ubuntu 8.10 \n \l
[14:20] <jonaskoelker> vock: and how about lsb_release -r
[14:21] <vock> jonaskoelker, Ubuntu 8.10 \n \l
[14:21] <Lake> is the username stored anywhre in the private key generated by ssh-keygen ?
[14:21] <vock> jonaskoelker, err Release:         8.10
[14:21] <jonaskoelker> vock: so the things that hold on to 8.04 are grub, and what else did you say, system->about-something?
[14:22] <vock> jonaskoelker, system->Administration->Startup Manager
[14:22] <ortsvorsteher> Lake: no in my private key it isnt
[14:22] <cdavis> can krdc make a shortcut to an rdp server? I cannot figure it out and don't want to keep trying if it isn't even possible
[14:22] <izinucs> wips, sorry. I've never had to deal with those.. I'm looking in google now.. If I come up with anything else I'll let you know.
[14:22] <vock> jonaskoelker, but i think that's just a GUI frontend for grub?
[14:23] <jonaskoelker> that's funny, I don't have "Startup Manager"
[14:23] <jonaskoelker> AFAICT
[14:23] <Dr_willis> 'just' a front end? :)
[14:23] <geirha> jonaskoelker: not installed by default
[14:23] <jonaskoelker> oic
[14:23] <geirha> vock: could you pastebin the current menu.lst?
[14:23] <jonaskoelker> geirha: it's grub-choose-default?
[14:24] <geirha> jonaskoelker: the package is called "startupmanager"
[14:24] <jonaskoelker> ah
[14:24] <jonaskoelker> :)
[14:25] <izinucs> wips, I just looked in synaptic pkg manager and there is a driver in there for SiS.  xserver-xorg-video-sis
[14:25] <vock> geirha, http://pastebin.com/m2439a455
[14:25] <vock> jonaskoelker, sorry about that
[14:25] <ucrit> hi guys,  I've got this message "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet"" what does it mean?
[14:26] <wips> izinucs, Well, it says it's already installed
[14:26] <geirha> vock: Ok, the magic comments seems to be intact, so it must be that the kernel packages haven't been installed
[14:26] <UrsusTas> Night all
[14:26] <jonaskoelker> vock: about what?
[14:26] <chronosza> anyone know of a new driver for the intel x3100?
[14:27] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | chronosza
[14:27] <vock> jonaskoelker, the wild goose chase for startupmanager
[14:27] <jonaskoelker> vock: np
[14:27] <jonaskoelker> vock: I learned something new :)
[14:27] <Dr_willis> x3100? that sounds almost like an ATI chipset name. :)
[14:27] <izinucs> wips, could be you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure that if there is a driver listed there is the correct one.. you can look at that file in terminal with "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:27] <vock> geirha, just did the synaptics update... not sure why it wouldn't have installed, but it's not even showing up anymore on the update list :(
[14:27] <jonaskoelker> vock: what do you have in /boot/vmlinu* ?
[14:27] <chronosza> ok ill rephrase. is there a person or bot in this channel that knows of a working driver for the intel x3100 gpu in the acer laptops?
[14:28] <ortsvorsteher> !ati
[14:28] <chronosza> Dr_willis: i wish it was an ati. alas its an itel.
[14:28] <geirha> vock: aptitude search '~i linux-image'
[14:28] <chronosza> intel
[14:28] <ortsvorsteher> !intel
[14:28] <vock> jonaskoelker, vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic
[14:28] <wips> izinucs, doesnt look like there are any drivers installed..
[14:29] <dp> I've got a BCM4306 Rev 3 card installed, and linuxwireless.org suggests that I should be using the b43 driver, but doing a modprobe b43 causes the link to never come up.  suggestions?
[14:29] <wips> izinucs, oh, wait
[14:29] <izinucs> wips.. what does it say
[14:29] <jonaskoelker> vock: and you wanted which version again?  Sorry, my memory is failing me :)
[14:29] <geirha> vock: Have you tried reinstalling the kernel-package? sudo aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic
[14:29] <wips> izinucs, "Section "Device" Identifier "Device 0" Driver "nvidia" vendorname "Nvidia Corporation"
[14:29] <Lake> ortsvorsteher: thanks for answer :)
[14:29] <vock> geirha, http://pastebin.com/m73c1a472
[14:30] <erUSUL> dp: you need to installl b43-fwcutter to get the firmware for the card installed
[14:30] <geirha> jonaskoelker: He has upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, but only has 8.04 kernels in menu.lst
[14:30] <Boomking> hello , can anyone hello , i burnt the image of the live / alternative (tried both ) when i boot , and click on install , it gives me a black screen with a blinking underscore does any1 know the solution ????
[14:30] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: 1. the bot doesnt know, and 2. ive looked on the net and only find people saying the x3100 is not working, nothing more - hence me asking here.
[14:30] <ortsvorsteher> Lake: np. but i found a usernam in public key. you also use dsa?
[14:30] <jonaskoelker> geirha: got that.  So he just wants any newer kernel, or the default 8.10, or?
[14:30] <dp> erUSUL: already installed. I've also run /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[14:30] <vock> jonaskoelker,the newer kernel for 8.10
[14:30] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: that sounds that you have no x window running now?
[14:31] <erUSUL> dp: :/
[14:31] <izinucs> wips.. there's your issue.. you can edit the file with .. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. change nvidia with sis.. save and then restart gdm
[14:31] <blunder> ok guys what is up
[14:31] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: no im in xorg. its defaulting to no acceleration. soon as i try to do something requiring acceleration it hangs.
[14:32] <vock> geirha, i'll try reinstalling now
[14:32] <Joker_-_> anyone knows of an easy way to configure a dual screen + tv-out other than having 3 video cards?
[14:32] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: you are using ubuntu 8.10? and after installing the normal X window is running, but all what needs more like compiz or else is not running?
[14:32] <blunder> I cannot use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:32] <Some_ux> I want to link two remote sites via VPN (link is not permanent, only raised on demand on either side) which package is best suited for this ?
[14:32] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher:  yes compiz dead, its 8.10. vmware claims no acceleration available also. so something is not happy
[14:33] <vock> restarting, will be back, thanks for all the help btw
[14:33] <chronosza> what i dont understand is if i do edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf there is no mention of any driver. has it moved?
[14:33] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: and the system uses no open source drivers?
[14:34] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: yes, the xorg.conf changes in many ways in 8.10, if you like, i paste your mine
[14:34] <Boomking> hello , can anyone help, i burnt the image of the live / alternative (tried both ) when i boot , and click on install , it gives me a black screen with a blinking underscore does any1 know the solution ???? :<
[14:34] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher:  does yours also only have 11 lines/
[14:35] <izinucs> Boomking, do you have an nvidia 8200 chipset board?
[14:35] <yaztromo> chronosza everything is configured automatically these days so u will very little in xorg.conf now
[14:35] <Boomking> nope , amd 690v
[14:35] <Lake> Boomking: did you try booting the OS from the livecd ?
[14:35] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: yes, at first time till i configured it. wait sometime, i try to paste my first xorg.conf and my yet working...
[14:35] <izinucs> Boomking, is that a newer board?
[14:35] <Boomking> lake : yes i did
[14:35] <chronosza> yaztromo:  aah ok.
[14:35] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher:  thanks
[14:35] <Boomking> ummm am2 not realy like a year old
[14:36] <yaztromo> if you specify something in xorg.conf it will override anything else though
[14:36] <chronosza> hmmmm. so in fact it might not even be using any intel drivers?
[14:36] <chronosza> could be using vga for all i know :)
[14:36] <izinucs> Boomking, I had an issue with my am2 board.. xfxforce.. I had to add pci=nomsi to the kernel line to get it to boot properly.. even with the live cd
[14:36] <Boomking> the media is fine tho it works on my old machine :S
[14:36] <Lake> Boomking: well did it boot ?
[14:36] <blunder> is it possible that us.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[14:37] <Boomking> the cd boots fine , izinucs : i think i will try that
[14:37] <vock> geirha, jonaskoelker, no luck, uname -r still gives 2.6.24-19-generic
[14:37] <yaztromo> check your logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:37] <vock> geirha, jonaskoelker, after the reinstall and reboot
[14:37] <Boomking> i just updated my bios thought that might help :/
[14:37] <yaztromo> you will what driver it chose
[14:37] <yaztromo> *see
[14:37] <chronosza> yaztromo: where? i thought it would be in xorg.conf?
[14:37] <geirha> vock: menu.lst remains unchanged then I assume?
[14:37] <izinucs> Boomking, yea.. it booted fine on my machine until I tried to install.. then I had issues with the partition manager and other areas
[14:37] <jonaskoelker> vock: any new entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[14:37] <kingfishr> why is ubuntu trying to reinstall 2.6.27-11 every day? It's already successully installed.
[14:38] <jonaskoelker> vock: you could always just add a new entry yourself...
[14:38] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: http://pastebin.com/f426cb64a is the first one and http://pastebin.com/f43c1a40 is my actual one
[14:38] <Boomking> so was all fine in the end ?
[14:38] <Boomking> Izinucs*
[14:38] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: okay the second one looks more like what i remember :)
[14:39] <yaztromo> yep the small one is the new auto way
[14:39] <geirha> vock: One thing I would try is to rename /boot/grub/menu.lst and then run "sudo update-grub". That should create a brand new menu.lst. See if the newer kernels get added to that one.
[14:39] <izinucs> Boomking, yes.. except I just discovered a trick in menu.list to add the necessary line so when you get a kernel upgrade it doesn't go bonkers on you again
[14:39] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: hope it helps. if not, try to paste your question here again with more details :)
[14:39] <yaztromo> if you look in the xorg log you will all the things it chose tho
[14:39] <chronosza> i dont suppose theres an intel-xconfig? :)
[14:39] <Druidika> Hi Folks, i've a question with building a .deb. I've built a .deb but i want to automatically remove warzone2100* befode my .deb gets installed
[14:39] <Druidika> how can i do this?
[14:39] <Boomking> izinucs: can u please share :) lol this has been driving me crazy
[14:40] <vock> geirha, jonaskoelker: update-grub said it found the new kernel, but menu.lst stays the same
[14:40] <izinucs> Boomking, hang on and I'll pastebin mine.. it's not the same one I modified but I'll put an indicator in there where you're suppose to add and what..
[14:40] <jonaskoelker> vock, geirha : I'm out for 10-15m; I'm sure geirha can guide you around just fine :)
[14:40] <Boomking> kk kwl :D
[14:40] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: gonna try adding the driver sections in forcing intel driver to see what happens.
[14:41] <vock> jonaskoelker, thanks for all the help
[14:41] <jonaskoelker> vock: yw :)
[14:41] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: at first make a backup of your xorg.conf ;)
[14:41] <vock> geirha; just change the file path to the new kernel than in the menu.lst ?
[14:41] <geirha> vock: even when you moved/renamed away menu.lst?
[14:42] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: good point.
[14:42] <vock> geirha: that would have been smarter on my part, i'll try that
[14:42] <yaztromo> chronosza you can see what driver is being used with xvinfo
[14:42] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: btw, is your box using an free driver for your intel device?