[05:31] <errr> what is the difference between a node and a machine?
[06:36] <errr> this project seems very incomplete.. is there a better library to use for the maas api? https://github.com/maas/python-libmaas
[08:28] <BlackDex> errr: the difference is that a machine is a physical machine bare-metal (or maybe even a virtual machine), and a node could be an container like lxd for instance
[09:25] <brendand> BlackDex, errr - 'Nodes' also encompasses controllers and non-managable 'devices'
[11:46] <mmxe> I'm trying to log on to a node to investigate why commissioning fails.
[11:46] <mmxe> I followed the instructions in Troubleshooting to add a password to "ubuntu" user account
[11:46] <mmxe> https://docs.ubuntu.com/maas/2.1/en/troubleshoot-faq
[11:47] <mmxe> The script provided references a path that doesn't exit, and I'm not sure how to edit it
[11:47] <mmxe> This line here: imgs=$(echo /var/lib/maas/boot-resources/*/*/*/*/*/*/root-image)
[11:48] <mmxe> I checked a random path in /var/lib/maas/boot-resources/*/*/*/*/*/*/
[11:48] <mmxe> there's no file called "root-image"
[11:49] <mmxe> There's only boot-inited, boot-kernel, and squashfs
[11:50] <mmxe> Can anyone tell me how to lot on to the ephemeral image of the node and access the /var/log/cloud-init.log,  /var/log/boot.log, and /var/log/cloud-init-output.log files
[11:50] <mmxe> MAAS is reporting "Failed commissioning" on every node I try to bring up.
[11:51] <mmxe> I'm watching VGA output, and it seems to be functioning mostly correctly. Nodes can access network, boot by PXE, MAAS applies updates after the initial install
[14:08] <mup> Bug #1662073 changed: 'regiond' tries to get 'bootloaders' that are not selected <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662073>
[15:38] <mup> Bug #1663276 opened: test_stop_rescue_mode_logs_and_raises_errors breaks when previous_status is DEPLOYED <tests> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1663276>
[16:08] <mup> Bug #1663290 opened: boot-source-selections endpoint does not document "os" parameter <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1663290>
[16:15] <ms2i> I asked for some help as mmxe a couple hours ago. I got disconnected and can't see if there's any reponse.
[16:15] <ms2i> Thanks
[16:50] <errr> BlackDex: thanks
[16:51] <errr> ms2i: there was no response
[16:52] <ms2i> Ok, thanks
[16:52] <ms2i> Does anyone know how to get on the mailing list? All the links I can find go to launchpad, and the last message there says the list moved, but it's impossible to see where.
[16:52] <pmatulis> ms2i, so you cannot commission any node?
[17:20] <ms2i> Right, I can't commission any node. I have 2 HP DL360 G7
[17:20] <ms2i> Also Quanta Computers Windmill platform
[17:39] <mup> Bug #1663324 opened: Maas Region Controller fails to install using external postgres via debconf <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1663324>
[17:45] <brendand> ms2i, which list? maas-devel?
[17:46] <brendand> ms2i, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/maas-devel
[17:46] <brendand> roaksoax, update topic ^
[17:46] <brendand> i can't
[17:54] <roaksoax> ms2i: why can't you commission any node ?
[17:54] <roaksoax> ms2i: what are the symbols ?
[18:52] <ms2i> I'm not sure what you mean by "symbols". The ephemeral image installs, then updates with apt, then shuts down and MAAS reports "failed commissioning" I'm trying to figure out how to log on to the ephemeral image so I can look at cloud-init logs
[19:02] <pmatulis> ms2i, and this is true for all nodes? you haven't been able to commission a single node?
[19:05] <pmatulis> ms2i, what is the underlying machine type for a failing node?
[20:14] <roaksoax> menn0: do you have a log
[20:14] <roaksoax> err
[20:14] <roaksoax> sroy
[20:14] <menn0> roaksoax: ?
[21:20] <mup> Bug #1663387 opened: MAAS should print its version string to its logs on startup <support> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1663387>
[22:11] <mup> Bug #1554636 changed: maas serving old image to nodes <landscape> <MAAS:Fix Released by ltrager> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged> <MAAS 2.0:Fix Committed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1554636>
[22:33] <Damnit__> I'm trying to install MAAS and i am stuck
[22:59] <Damnit__> is MASS free?
[23:04] <pmatulis> Damnit__, where are you stuck? what instructions are you following?
[23:05] <Damnit__> i am lost when my terminal asks for maas-rack install-shared-secret
[23:05] <Damnit__> I see the file
[23:08] <Damnit__> pmatulis:
[23:16] <Damnit__> what terminal command do i enter to get this information?


[03:07] <mfisch> Is there a good reason why someone would just merge directly from upstream and not from debian?
[03:07] <mfisch> latexila has been merged direct from upstream several times since last spring instead of debian
[03:09] <mfisch> looks like Ubuntu was ahead of debian for those so perhaps thats why, but it seems like wasted effort to some extent
[03:14] <RAOF> mfisch: Generally it's better to go via Debian, but that's dependent on the uploader actually being able to go via Debian.
[03:14] <mfisch> Perhaps there was a pressing need to be ahead of debian in this case
[03:14] <RAOF> If the Debian maintainer's unresponsive, or just plain less responsive than the person who's interested in it in Ubuntu, then going Ubuntu first while Debian catches up isn't too bad.
[03:20] <mfisch> Hopefully debian merges the new upstream in the same way so it can merge back together at some point
[03:24] <RAOF> Right.
[07:37] <Rhonda> Hmm, it made it to /. that sabdfl did win the austrian big brother award …


 Man 4K on Plasma is not a good experience out of the box. It keeps 100% scaling.
[19:49] <valorie> @ahoneybun, will you consider running an election?
[19:49] <valorie> 3 of us are gonna expire otherwise
[19:50] <valorie> sorry to hear about the 4K Plasma experience and I hope you file a bug report
 Well I need to find where to file a bug first if I do. As for the election I fear that it doesn't matter if we don't have enough folks in the positions.
 It would not be ideal, but a full KC certainly helps (re @ahoneybun: Well I need to find where to file a bug first if I do. As for the election I fear that it doesn't matter if we don't have enough folks in the positions.)
 It just feels like the KC hasn't needed to do a whole lot for example we don't do monthly or even quarterly meetings to set goals for the project.
 If you feel that is important, then lets fix that :D (re @ahoneybun: It just feels like the KC hasn't needed to do a whole lot for example we don't do monthly or even quarterly meetings to set goals for the project.)
 One things, I think we need to work out how to coordinate better with Ubuntu Studio, as we both depend on plasma and KDE apps now
 One thing, I think we need to work out how to coordinate better with Ubuntu Studio, as we both depend on plasma and KDE apps now
 Like if we could have meetings about what our combined goals for a release that would be good.
 valorie: if no one else will, I will do the election. get the ball rolling on Monday
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/f062c7bc/giphy.mp4
 I also think we could use a bit more outreaching. I need to see what I can do and actually do it.
 cool. I know things have gone a bit stagnant lately. lets see if we can get out out that rut
 I also need to daily drive things again. I'm on Fedora/Arch lately.
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ad244174/mp4.mp4
 LOL
 Oof rough
 Just jesting. I like that gif
 Oh I know haha
[21:35] <valorie> I can usually show up for a meeting, but I can't drive things rn
[21:36] <valorie> and thank you RikMills for stepping up