[19:06] <nurow> Does anyone know of a solid, high-end gaming laptop that has excellent compatibility with Ubuntu? I recently purchased a System76 Bonobo Extreme and have had a ton of issues with it, and want to find a better laptop. Any ideas?
[19:07] <Cyrax> ActionParsnip2: sorry if i ask alot,but its first time and i need a download link for that version of ubuntu from the photo I showed u.. latest one. been trying to find it,but no luck
[19:07] <drmeister> usr13: Thanks - I'll do that.  It's saying Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg... Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http'   Do I have a problem with my connection to the interwebs?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip2> Cryrax: its the Ubuntu iso from the main site. The image you gave is default.  Nothing different
[19:07] <ActionParsnip2>  Cyrax: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> nurow  try zareason's webiste
[19:08] <drmeister> Currently it is stuck at: 23% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com] ...
[19:08] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax: third time now. There is not a special ubuntu for virtualbox just like there isn't a special windows version for virtualbox either
[19:08] <ActionParsnip2>  Cyrax : Ubuntu is Ubuntu
[19:08] <nurow> MonkeyDust, those are also Clevos, right?
[19:09] <nurow> I've just been so disappointed with the Bonobo Extreme. It claims to have Ubuntu support but: my headphone jack doesn't work, my brightness control doesn't work, and the clickpad has no driver and performs HORRRIBLY
[19:10] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax: you can set settings in virtualbox to run ubuntu better but the cd inage is exactly 100% identical in every way
[19:10] <nurow> I would really like to a high-end Samsung type laptop or something that I could put Ubuntu on... but I'm afraid of running into driver issues.
[19:10] <Cyrax> i know.. but its so confusing for me who never used it before. but just one question.. Are there any command for ubuntu to upgrade ubuntu version i have?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax : look into the 3D abd 2D acceleration in virtualbox.  Have you tried that?
[19:11] <Cyrax> nope.. idk how either.. sorry
[19:11] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax: yes you can upgrade to the next release or if you use Precise (and I suggest you do)
[19:12] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax : you can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it is released next year
[19:12] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax : in one jump
[19:13] <Cyrax> under get ready for installtion of ubuntu.. u can tick the box "download updates whiel installation of ubuntu.. is that recommended or can I skip that?
[19:14] <Toze_das_Coves> it's up to you Cyrax
[19:14] <drmeister> Hmm, it looks like my Ubuntu installation has no internet connection.  It's running within VirtualBox (sigh).
[19:14] <usr13> drmeister: Yes, if you do not have an active connection to the internet, it won't work.
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, I would tick it.
[19:18] <drmeister> Does anyone have experience with getting a network connection for Ubuntu working from within VirtualBox?  When I bring up the Network settings it says "Attached to NAT" and at the bottom of the window it says "! Non-optimal setting detected"  - that's helpful.
[19:18] <drmeister> I'm on OS X 10.8.1, the network connection to the host is fine.
[19:19] <Rexodus> Is it working?
[19:20] <kim79> I installd the nvidia drivers and now unity bars wont load
[19:21] <tsygrl> hey all - i just installed postfix on an unbuntu box. Accidentally trashed /etc/postfix. How do i get it back apt-get remove dovecot-postfix; apt-get install --reinstall dovecot-postfix; does not reinstall /etc/postfix.
[19:21] <drmeister> Sorry, I forgot to mention that the network connection for my brand new Ubuntu install within VirtualBox is not working. No urls are being resolved.
[19:21] <certain> i am not trying to turn you away from god
[19:21] <iceroot_> tsygrl: do the same with the package "postfix"
[19:22] <iceroot_> tsygrl: and maybe try "--purge"
[19:22] <majorka> Hey guys, any problem with netbeans ?!? 7.0.1 7.1.2 and 7.3.1 seems to having some problem with the new java update.
[19:22] <certain> justice\\\\\\\
[19:23] <b0x> hi, im trying to install ubuntu 13.04, but i always get a dirty disk/faulty drive error just after choosing the install or manually setting up partitions
[19:23] <b0x> i have checked my internal hdd, it is fine
[19:23] <b0x> i have also tried both installing from cd and usb flash drive
[19:24] <b0x> i want to dual boot windows 8, and its running in efi mode, so im using the uefi installer
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> b0x, Do you have an allocated space for the install?
[19:25] <sncs> Hi all, can someone help me out with a very strange problem I seem to be having
[19:25] <b0x> yes, ive got a 100gb partition
[19:25] <daftykins> sncs: ask away
[19:25] <b0x> the installer formats the partition and does copy some files
[19:25] <b0x> then fails
[19:25] <sncs> Seems that whenever I ping6 a host which isnt IPv6 it routes to local
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> sncs, Maybe if you describe it to the channel.
[19:26] <sncs> # ping6 google.com
[19:26] <sncs> PING google.com(ee-in-x8b.1e100.net) 56 data bytes
[19:26] <sncs> 64 bytes from ee-in-x8b.1e100.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=4.98 ms
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> b0x, You should resize windows with its partitioner first.
[19:26] <sncs> root@optimus:/var/www/tajtickets.nl/log# ping6 microsoft.com
[19:26] <sncs> PING microsoft.com(optimus.arconnect.nl) 56 data bytes
[19:26] <sncs> 64 bytes from optimus.arconnect.nl: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > sncs
[19:26] <painless> hi all, any kind of strong ubuntu guy in here? athero wireless? bad connection?
[19:26] <sncs> optimus.arconnect.nl is my server name
[19:26] <sncs> my bad wilee
[19:27] <iceroot_> sncs: 1. use pastebin 2. dont run a root-shell
[19:27] <iceroot_> sncs: 3. dont host a server when you are using a root-shell all the time
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> sncs, No biggie you just want all the info compacted for easy access
[19:28] <sncs> yeah i know running root is bad, im messing around with the configs, saves me have to sudo all the time
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> painless, The channel works with you stating the actual issues to it.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> sncs, very bad habit and can screw up permissions, get used to the password.
[19:29]  * sncs logs on via normal user
[19:29] <sncs> :)
[19:29] <b0x> wilee-nilee
[19:29] <b0x> i have resized the windows partition already
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> b0x, With?
[19:29] <painless> wilee-nileensorry, what do you mean?
[19:29] <b0x> gparted
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> !details | painless
[19:30] <sncs> the main problem is why does my server think that any host which doesnt have AAAA record is itself
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> b0x, Have you run windows so it does its auto-chdsk and all is good there?
[19:30] <b0x> as i said, the partition exists, when i retry the installation ubuntu prompts to 'reinstall' rather than clean install/dual boot
[19:31] <tsygrl> iceroot_: thanks - going to stuff my configz into git before i do too much more this time ;-)
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> b0x, YOur not answering questions and using your own conclusions, it is not help you actually want, best of luck.
[19:32] <b0x> yes ive ran chkdsk
[19:32] <b0x> also a surface scan/sector scan of the hdd
[19:34] <painless> wilee-nilee: sorry, but wrote the issue for lots of times lately, here we go:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05)
[19:34] <painless> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[19:34] <us0r> hello, I'm trying to connect my eserver running ubuntu 10.04 to the web through a netgear n600 dual band router that is connected to a wall jack. I get a strong internet connection to a windows computer close by but when i run the ethernet cable from the router to the server across the room i get nothing. any thoughts on what i am doing wrong? thanks
[19:34] <painless> not working except 2 meters away
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> painless, Best I can do is link you here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=AR9485
[19:35] <painless> thanks man, checking it out
[19:37] <painless> wilee-nilee, yuo just have googled it, i did for a year, nothing, i am desperate
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> painless, Not sure but adding weal signal to that search might help.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> weak*
[19:37] <painless> did it, did it
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> painless, We are all desperate for something, I said this is the best I can do, this is free help, if you want better answers go to the right service.
[19:39] <b0x> wilee-nilee: running chkdsk again, volume bitmap issues, fixing now
[19:39] <sncs> And since non existant AAAA IPv6 hosts resolve to localhost, all queries that need to go to an outside server go to the local server
[19:39] <sncs> and scripts fail :S
[19:39] <painless> <wilee-nilee, yoou are not the right person to tell me me to abandon it, i am o linux since 2003 :D, just seeking for the right guys to help me
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | painless
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> did not say I was
[19:40] <painless> <wilee-nilee no problem, i understand that, why are you taking it some kind of personally
[19:40] <sncs> soon as i ifdown eth1 (ipv6 interface) everything works like a charm
[19:41] <sncs> but then no IPv6 traffic.. :S
[19:41] <painless> i am just trying to get ssome answers
[19:41] <painless> sorry to bother you
[19:41] <b0x> painless
[19:41] <b0x> isnt something like the decibel setting?
[19:41] <b0x> or power?
[19:42] <painless> no
[19:42] <painless> it is about the driver
[19:43] <Cyrax> usr13: I installed now version 12.. the one who gave me the link.. but it only gave me the terminal.. what shall I do now?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, This a server or desktop?
[19:46] <Cyrax> it didnt get me into desktop at all.. jsut the terminal
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Did you download the desktop or sever iso for your virtualbox install?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> server
[19:47] <painless> box: it is about the drivers, by some reason(we discussed with some of my ubuntu friends), it is not just keeping the good stuff  and trying make it better, it takes out some good stuff sand keeps going on...why so?
[19:48] <Cyrax> wilee-nilee: the file from the link he gave me is called ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, You might check the ISO's md5sum, vbox uses its own drivers in general, there may be a problem there but checking the iso is a good start.
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | Cyrax
[19:51] <OerHeks> painless a simple google search learn  that your atheros supports only Single Band (no G/N) http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
[19:52] <painless> DerHerks so what? do not see any issue here?
[19:52] <Cyrax> wilee-nilee: i dont understand this :(
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, And can you explain what you do not understand, or should I guess. ;)
[19:53] <aldobr> hi all
[19:53] <Cyrax> i dont understand what u explained and i dont evne understand y I can't sue version 12.. it goes fine with version 9
[19:53] <Cyrax> *use
[19:54] <painless> OerHeks, sir, i had a very good quality until i have upgraded to 13.04.. i tried everything...
[19:54] <aldobr> i want to run a program that i downloaded, its a command line tool, the file is there, the permissions are right but when i type ./do-install i get file not found error
[19:54] <bekks> Cyrax: Ubuntu version 9 isnt supported anymore.
[19:54] <painless> OerHeks it did work on 12th one
[19:54] <aldobr> how can bash return file not found for a file that appears on ls ?
[19:54] <bekks> aldobr: Depends on your check.
[19:54] <Cyrax> well.. at least that works fine for me.. but version 12 i can't evne get it to work.. the one who gave me the download link,. i only got to terminal only
[19:55] <TJ-> aldobr: easily :)
[19:55] <aldobr> omg
[19:55] <aldobr> a light turned on on my head
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, That makes two of us, so far you have vaguely described nothing but a terminal, this could be due to a handful of varibles, all we can do is to start knocking them out, so I suggest checking the iso first for a good download..
[19:55] <aldobr> what happens if the file has a shebang line and the interpreter is not there ?
[19:55] <aldobr> does bash say file not found ?
[19:55] <OerHeks> painless, oke i did not get that part, was working before upgrade.
[19:56] <painless> OerHeks yep
[19:56] <TJ-> aldobr: makes sense doesn't it?
[19:56] <aldobr> hm
[19:56] <aldobr> i will check that
[19:56] <aldobr> thanks
[19:56] <Cyrax> Would u b so kindly help me with it, wilee-nilee? would b really helpful..maybe its wrong bit version
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, I was helping, but now I'm done, others will be better with this, best of luck. ;)
[19:57] <OerHeks> painless, i find an simular problem with 12.10 > nohwcrypt=1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/245826/network-card-atheros-problem-ubuntu-12-10
[19:57] <Cyrax> Who else are willing to help me here?
[19:57] <painless> OerHeks more, i tried all the net tricks like turning down the power saving mode and stuff.. my kernel is the latest..
[19:58] <painless> OerHeks, did that, for 100 times man :)
[19:59] <painless> OerHeks it did help before 13 but it doesn't
[20:00] <foofoobar> Hi. I'm trying to pass data from arecord to sox. "arecord -f cd foo.wav" and then using it via "sox foo.wav .." works, but not with a pipe
[20:01] <foofoobar> I tried this: arecord -f cd -t wav | sox - -t wav -r 16000 -b 16 -c 1 rec_tmp2.flac vad reverse vad reverse lowpass -2 2500
[20:01] <foofoobar> I get the error: sox FAIL formats: can't open input  `-': WAVE: RIFF header not found
[20:01] <foofoobar> Any ideas?
[20:03] <painless> foofooba,sorry, not that advanced, but i think that it  is about the permission of the files or something
[20:05] <abc456> hi
[20:06] <daaku> i've got a static network setup which works for the most part, but i need to run "sudo ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS>" after boot to get the network to work. is there an appropriate way to get this happen as part of the setup from /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:07] <ikonia> daaku: why don't you manage this through network manager, as it's designed ?
[20:07] <ikonia> daaku: remove all the content from the /etc/network/interfaces file that you've added and manage it through network manager, as designed
[20:08] <daaku> ikonia: this is a headless container without a gui, not sure if that matters and i haven't used network manager before
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> abc456, HI, do you have a support issue?
[20:08] <ikonia> daaku: is it running ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop ?
[20:08] <abc456> yes
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> abc456, Excellent, tell the channel and maybe help is available. ;)
[20:09] <daaku> ikonia: it was setup using debootstrap
[20:09] <abc456> i am using debian, but i cant write in #debian, but i think this question is for linux general
[20:09] <abc456> i installed the nvidia driver, now i want to change the resolution to "1920x1200" which is not available in the nvidia-settings, how can i change it per hand?
[20:09] <ikonia> daaku: that doesn't answer my question
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> abc456, YOU would need ##linux then this is ubuntu support, and you can ask debial to remove whay=tever blocks.
[20:10] <abc456> in #linux i cant send to channel too
[20:10] <drmeister> I just installed Ubuntu on VirtualBox - I have an internet connection but no DNS - has anyone seen this before?
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> abc456, Debian might reqire you being registered with freenode not sure really.
[20:11] <iceroot_> !register | abc456
[20:11] <sncs> aha after much searching.. does anyone know how to disable IPv6 in PHP/Curl?
[20:11] <daaku> ikonia: i'm not sure how to answer that question i guess. it's running precise
[20:11] <abc456> strange, last time i could write to the channel
[20:11] <ikonia> daaku: why did you not just do a normal install ?
[20:12] <daaku> ikonia: i used lxc-create with the ubuntu script to create a container, my first ubuntu container, so i guess it was the "normal" install from my perspective :)
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> abc456, Maybe the isp your on has been banned...etc hard to say, but I would get there help, #freenode can help.
[20:12] <Cyrax> I might give up on using ubuntu on virtualbox.. can't get any version to work exept the old version 9
[20:12] <abc456> maybe its beceuase i am with root acount in irc?
[20:12] <ikonia> daaku: bottom line, add a default gateway to the interfaces file then
[20:13] <morshed> sncs: >>>/join ##php
[20:13] <bekks> Cyrax: Version 9 isnt supported anymore, and Ubuntu up to 13.10 works fine in vbox.
[20:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: could you expand more on "can't get it to work"
[20:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: what's the actual problem
[20:14] <sncs> morshed: thanks
[20:14] <Cyrax> idk how to explain.. sorry. i try to install ubuntu .. well tried to install ubuntu 11,12 nad 13.. and somehow i can't get it to work.. idk what
[20:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: please explain "can't get it to work"
[20:14] <Cyrax> i am able to install it,but it doesnt get me into the desktop of ubuntu
[20:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: describe the problem
[20:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: what does it do ?
[20:15] <Cyrax> it only get me to the terminal only
[20:15] <abc456> ok it worked
[20:15] <ikonia> can you see the terminal now ?
[20:15] <daaku> ikonia: makes sense, i have "gateway <IP_ADDRESS>" (https://gist.github.com/daaku/f1d6872bc1718f52a4fb) but i still need to manually add the route
[20:15] <Cyrax> i did,but since it didnt work,i removed it.. now i try install version 13 and see
[20:16] <ikonia> daaku: you need a default gateway
[20:16] <bekks> Cyrax: You didnt specify "didnt work" yet. What does it do? Refuse to work, drinks beer all the time, sits on your couch?
[20:16] <ikonia> daaku: according to that pastebin that should add a default route
[20:17] <daaku> ikonia: that's what i was expecting too
[20:17] <Cyrax> b serious.. its annoying when i can't get it to work.. let me jsut install version 13 and see how it goes
[20:18] <bekks> Cyrax: I am serious. What does "didnt work" mean? Specify it please.
[20:18] <bekks> !details | Cyrax
[20:18] <ikonia> daaku: thats very odd, that should add fine
[20:19] <Cyrax> I am trying to explain as best as i can.. sorry if i can't explain good enough
[20:20] <ikonia> daaku: ahhh I see the problem
[20:20] <ikonia> daaku: you eed to add "eth0" to the auto line
[20:20] <ikonia> put "auto eth0" above the iface eth0 inet static line
[20:20] <Cyrax> Now i install ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso .. i tell u how it goes
[20:21] <usr13> Cyrax: What did you install last time?
[20:21] <icelite> sahhi all
[20:21] <Cyrax> Can't remember.. there has been so many i installed idk wich one..
[20:21] <daaku> ikonia: didn't help
[20:21] <usr13> Cyrax: (I think I saw you asking some questions before.)
[20:21] <ikonia> daaku: can you pastebin me your current interfaces file
[20:22] <daaku> ikonia: i think the ubuntu network setup isn't kicking in and the lxc is setting up the network
[20:22] <daaku> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/daaku/f8b1594ba5051c6dab24
[20:23] <daaku> ikonia: running "ubuntu@pvm01:~$ sudo ifup eth0" returns "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"
[20:23] <baegle1> All of the suddent, Flash is just failing left and right in Firefox. Happened pretty much right after a routine package update
[20:23] <daaku> ikonia: running "sudo ifdown eth0" returns "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured"
[20:23] <Cyrax> Ok,i installed ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso .. this is what I got: This Kernet requires an x86-64 CPU,but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[20:23] <baegle1> Anyone experiencing this?
[20:24] <daaku> ikonia: even though "ip addr" shows eth0 to be configured
[20:24] <Cyrax> *kernel
[20:24] <ikonia> Cyrax: your installing 64bit on a 32bit machine
[20:24] <guntbert> daaku: auto eth0   on a separate line
[20:24] <daaku> guntbert: doh, let me try that
[20:24] <Cyrax> oh crap. sorry for the word. i didnt know what bit it was.. thanks.. i try 32
[20:24] <usr13> Cyrax: Looks as though you need x86, (32bit).
[20:25] <daaku> guntbert: no change with that
[20:25] <Cyrax> usr: would u b so kindly help find that one?
[20:26] <usr13> Cyrax: Yes.  Do you want 12.04 LTS?
[20:26] <Cyrax> latest version
[20:26] <Cyrax> doesnt matter 12.04 or 13
[20:26] <icelite> hi all
[20:26] <usr13> Cyrax: 12.04 is the latest LTS, (which is what I use).
[20:27] <usr13> LTS | Cyrax
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> guys, the !permissions factoid brings no help -- i'm unable to delete or chown, chmod a hidden .Trash folder on this external USB - ls -la shows it is owned by [me] but it says 'permission denied', even with sudo - hints & tips?
[20:27] <guntbert> daaku: did you out the  auto eth0 immediately above the lines defining eth0? (they have to be consecutive if I remember correctly )
[20:27] <daaku> yep, i put it right before it
[20:28] <usr13> !lts | Cyrax
[20:28] <guntbert> daaku: sorry, I was not really following, just spotted the wrong sequence
[20:28] <Cyrax> That didnt give me any link.. i need 12.04 LTS x86 (32)
[20:28] <daaku> guntbert: np, thanks for trying
[20:28] <xpot> Question: how do I fix this? "Dropping incompatible voice frame on SIP/100056-00000001 of format ulaw since our native format has changed to (alaw)" Asterisk 11.5
[20:29] <usr13> Cyrax: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[20:29] <Pici> xpot: You'd probably have better luck by asking in #asterisk
[20:29] <adknight87> How do I configure gdm I just updated to 12.10 and x won't start
[20:29] <budmang> no matter what I cant get a 12.04 kernel to downgrade, Ive updated the grub, update-grub, see the files get updated, but it simply will not boot.
[20:30] <Martin[3]> one doesn't simply boot
[20:30] <xpot> Pici: I thoughts that was where I was... oops ;)
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> budmang, Have you tried all the kernels in the grub boot menu?
[20:33] <budmang> wilee-nilee: its a remote server with no kvm, though Im sure it would work if manually selected.
[20:33] <budmang> I need to to use the old kernel as default.
[20:34] <blazemore> budmang: Why not just uninstall the other kernels entirely?
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> budmang, Sure, be sure to be detailed in your issue.
[20:34] <javatexan> anyone know of an accurate keyboard mapping for macbook pro?  delete key not work in thunderbird among other things  ;)
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> javatexan, This a ubuntu installation?
[20:35] <budmang> wilee-nilee: ? which details am I missing or do you need? I've even removed all kernels expect the running one, and the old one I want.
[20:35] <javatexan> wilee-nilee: yes ubuntu 13.04
[20:35] <javatexan> unity looks nice btw :)
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> budmang, I need none, however it took a prompt to get that is is remote and that you have to have a specific kernel, had that been there to begin with I would not even have responded.
[20:36] <javatexan> wish I could disable the 3 finger behavior of this touchpad.  Look down every once in a while to see I am in another program...hahaha
[20:36] <budmang> wilee-nilee: ahh I see sorry about that.
[20:39] <FireBeard> hello
[20:41] <daaku> i guess rc.local is the solution for now :/
[20:41] <wushu> hey, my apple keyboard is acting funky with ubuntu 12.04 lts. cant figure out how to get brackets or curly brackets. does anyone know if there is an easy fix for this?
[20:42] <FireBeard> [({ ?
[20:42] <Cyrax> Does it exist any 64-bit virtualbox? :)
[20:42] <wushu> FireBeard: can do () but not the other ones
[20:43] <FireBeard> have you tried changing the keyboard language?
[20:44] <Guest27199> evening
[20:44] <wushu> FireBeard: yeah the layout is norwegian, but i have tried english. still the same issue
[20:45] <budmang> wilee-nilee: I put a hold, on the kernel verision etc.. I cant find out how it wont downgrade..
[20:46] <FireBeard> maybe try another keyboard then
[20:47] <richwestcoast> Ubuntu is better than Linus
[20:49] <IRCo> hi
[20:53] <djapo> how can i delete ifb0 interface it was created while i was trying to masquerade i no longer needed and would like to delete it
[20:55] <linuxliam> how stable is the 3.10 kernel and is there any major need to update to it from debs
[20:55] <holstein> !13.10 | linuxliam
[20:55] <ikonia> 3.10 kernel is not part of an ubuntu release yet
[20:56] <linuxliam> i know but its listed on kernel.org as stable
[20:56] <ikonia> linuxliam: why do you want it ?
[20:56] <ikonia> linuxliam: what's wrong the with kernel ubuntu provides ?
[20:56] <linuxliam> was wondering if i'd gain any performance even if its minor
[20:57] <ikonia> linuxliam: bigger release numbers do not mean better performance
[20:57] <linuxliam> i know
[20:57] <holstein> linuxliam: 13.10 is not released yet.. you are free and encouraged to manually update to whatever kernel you like.. that will not be officially supported here either
[20:57] <ikonia> linuxliam: is here anything in the release notes that says it will improve performance for your hardware ?
[20:57] <ikonia> linuxliam: if you "know" why are you wondering if it will give you better performance if there is nothing to suggest it will
[20:58] <ikonia> linuxliam: you're willing to break ubuntu support/compatability for a fantasy possibility of better performance?
[20:58] <linuxliam> that would be considered testing
[20:58] <linuxliam> ;)
[20:58] <FireBeard> Ubu now only has 9 months of support left per every non-LTS versions, great
[20:58] <ikonia> linuxliam: no, it's not testing, it's just random
[20:59] <FireBeard> nobody still installs it
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> linuxliam  if you want to test it, you need not ask questions here
[20:59] <ikonia> FireBeard: what ?
[20:59] <TJ-> linuxliam: 3.10 fixes quite a few driver bugs, including very slow Intel 4965 802.11n WIFi, so it can improve things dramatically. It is also supported as an upgrade via the linux-current package series, for 12.04 and others
[20:59] <holstein> linuxliam: test what you like.. you are, as i said, free to and encouraged to. but its not supported here
[20:59] <ikonia> !info linux-current
[20:59] <FireBeard> ikonia: read up
[20:59] <ikonia> FireBeard: read up what ?
[20:59] <FireBeard> 9 months per release
[20:59] <ikonia> FireBeard: we know....
[20:59] <FireBeard> it's ridiculous
[20:59] <ikonia> FireBeard: then don't use it
[21:00] <FireBeard> I've been using it for many years
[21:00] <holstein> linuxliam: AFAIK there are "dailies" of 13.10 you could try live to see the kernel on your hardware
[21:00] <syntroPi> any known recent updates broke ssh port forwarding? i cant use it anymore...
[21:00] <FireBeard> this caught us all by surprise
[21:00] <ikonia> FireBeard: not really, it was announced a while ago,
[21:00] <TJ-> linuxliam: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling
[21:01] <FireBeard> ikonia: a few months before at the most
[21:01] <holstein> FireBeard: you are free and ecouraged to support whatever release manually you want for as long as you like
[21:01] <ikonia> FireBeard: yes,
[21:01] <FireBeard> holstein: not trying ti make a scene
[21:01] <FireBeard> just an observation
[21:01] <ikonia> FireBeard: then stop talking about it
[21:01] <FireBeard> as a long time UBU user
[21:02] <ikonia> FireBeard: we know the support policy, you pointing it out again changes nothing
[21:02] <linuxliam> im not massivley tech savy just wanted to know what the 3.10 kernel improves overall in lamens terms
[21:02] <ikonia> linuxliam: bottom line - you don't need it
[21:02] <zykotick9> ikonia: +1
[21:02] <ikonia> linuxliam: trust the ubuntu developers to push out the best supported kernels they can to allow your machine to function and maintain supportability
[21:02] <FireBeard> ok
[21:02] <k1l_> linuxliam: they say it with every new kernel version
[21:02] <TJ-> linuxliam: The main thing is adding support for newer harder to older releases, as well as some bug-fixes
[21:03] <ikonia> linuxliam: unless it fixes a specific problem to you, use the ubuntu packages
[21:03] <ikonia> linuxliam: more so if you're not tech savy as you said earlier
[21:03] <k1l_> linuxliam: if you want stableness just wait untill the final ubuntu release is done.
[21:04] <FireBeard> we all know the policy, we all hate it [so it seems], but nobody does anything about it
[21:04] <ikonia> FireBeard: please don't put words in our mouths
[21:04] <ikonia> FireBeard: no-one said we hate it
[21:04] <ikonia> FireBeard: if you don't like it, don't use the distro
[21:04] <ikonia> FireBeard: you don't seem to grasp the "stop talking about it" concept
[21:05] <FireBeard> that's like saying: if you don't like the local water: stop drinking it, or stop flushing your toilet with it
[21:05] <FireBeard> I get the message tho
[21:05] <ikonia> FireBeard: it's nothing like saying that
[21:05] <ikonia> FireBeard: this is a choice technology with mulitple other choices
[21:05] <ikonia> FireBeard: the people who own the project have changed it's policy,
[21:05] <linuxliam> also one other thing what is causing Skype 4.2 to consistently crash in Ubuntu 13.04
[21:06] <ikonia> FireBeard: you have a choice a.) accept it b.) don't use it
[21:06] <djapo> im getting an  error  when i run systemctl status iptables; no such file or directory
[21:06] <holstein> FireBeard: or, use the LTS.. thats what its there for.. to provide a longer term
[21:06] <ikonia> djapo: uname -a please
[21:07] <FireBeard> ikonia: you are saying to either accept ANYTHING they enforce, or pack up my business and go elsewhere?
[21:07] <ikonia> FireBeard: not quite, but the bottom line is, canonical control and define the project
[21:07] <felon> Question: if edid cant detect my monitor and im stuck in 4:3 / cant i look my monitor up ver/refresh and all that, and fill in as needed in my xorg.conf and it should work while running the current nvidia driver ?
[21:07] <Cyrax> Whoever gave me the link to x86 (32bit),, it didnt work.. it still got me to the terminal only
[21:07] <holstein> FireBeard: nothing is being "enforced".. its just not being supported.. cost and resources have been reviewed, and the policy is changing
[21:07] <ikonia> Cyrax: do you have the terminal there now ?
[21:07] <Cyrax> yes
[21:08] <Cyrax> only terminal
[21:08] <ikonia> Cyrax: can you type "id" and tell me what it says please ?
[21:08] <holstein> FireBeard: the LTS's are supporteing *longer* on the desktop than before (currently)
[21:08] <Cyrax> sure
[21:08] <FireBeard> never mind, you sheep keep defending Canonical, and keep sucking Mark's dick
[21:10] <guntbert> djapo: what are you trying to do?
[21:10] <syntroPi> Can someone give me a hint why my ssh tunnel of RDP port would not work? all i get is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978741/
[21:10] <Cyrax> uid=1000(blade) gid=1000(blade) groupes=1000(blade),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30
[21:10] <linuxliam> whats the best way to put forward ideas to ubuntu devs?
[21:10] <Cyrax> *groups
[21:10] <ikonia> linuxliam: such as?
[21:10] <TJ-> linuxliam: via the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[21:10] <ikonia> Cyrax: ok, great, so it is actually installed, it's just not starting Xorg
[21:10] <holstein> !wishlist
[21:11] <failmaster> hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase auth to key file based for root fs, details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase auth to key file based for root fs, details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?
[21:11] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Wishlist linuxliam as well
[21:11] <Cyrax> ikonia: So what I do?
[21:11] <ikonia> Cyrax: I guess need to work out why xorg isn't starting
[21:12] <Cyrax> ikonia: maybe wrong version of virtualbox?
[21:12] <ikonia> Cyrax: why would you say that ?
[21:12] <felon> Question: if edid cant detect my monitor and im stuck in 4:3 / cant i look my monitor up ver/refresh and all that, and fill in as needed in my xorg.conf and it should work while running the current nvidia driver ?
[21:12] <ikonia> Cyrax: what is the OS that virtualbox is running on ?
[21:12] <TJ-> failmaster: For it to work you'll need to include a script in the initrd, I forget it's name now, but I seem to recall that there's an update-initrd hook to install one automatically for key-files nowadays (when I first did it, had to write my own)
[21:12] <linuxliam> ikonia: adding a quicklist to "Displays" to allow for better muilti monitor mangement i.e easy switching display output
[21:12] <Cyrax> Ubuntu is on virtualbox
[21:12] <javatexan> I changed using Xmodmap and ccsm if anyone cares ;)
[21:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: what os is virtualbox running on
[21:13] <javatexan> works pretty well now
[21:13] <Cyrax> How do i check that?
[21:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: what OS is on your PC ?
[21:13] <Cyrax> Windows 8 64 bit
[21:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: ok, so virtualbox is running on Windows 8
[21:13] <Cyrax> yes
[21:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: when you setup a virtal machine, you configure it with virtual hardware, what video card did you set it up to use ?
[21:14] <Cyrax> ikonia: no idea
[21:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: finding out is a good move
[21:14] <failmaster> TJ-, yeah, i remember that some of my previous setups with such configuration required one, at first it was like 3rd party script years ago, later it was one shipped with cryptsetup, but recently with 12.04 it used to work like this, however, thank you for the tip!
[21:14] <Cyrax> I have no idea how
[21:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: looking in the virtualbox settings ?
[21:15] <Cyrax> u mena adapter type?
[21:15] <Cyrax> *mean
[21:15] <ikonia> Cyrax: yes
[21:16] <Cyrax> Adapter type: Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (82540EM)
[21:16] <failmaster> TJ-, but hey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/552658 take a look at this, whole this subject is a mess and no one really cares =)
[21:16] <ikonia> Cyrax: did you install the ubuntu desktop ISO ?
[21:17] <Cyrax> ikonia: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[21:17] <TJ-> failmaster: I'm reading your Q... let me think about it
[21:17] <gordonjcp> failmaster: only mad people who love having the ability to lose all their data forever without any user intervention use disk encryption
[21:17] <Cyrax> the one who gave me,had numner 32 in it,so i guess that was 32 bit
[21:17] <Cyrax> *number
[21:18] <failmaster> gordonjcp, any arguments for this?
[21:18] <ikonia> Cyrax: that image should install xorg and all the display stuff you need,
[21:18] <failmaster> or it's just your subjective concerns?
[21:18] <gordonjcp> failmaster: well, everyone that uses it seems to have terrible problems, constantly
[21:18] <ikonia> gordonjcp: agreed
[21:18] <Cyrax> ikonia: Can u find a way so i can really install it for the os I got? cuz i have tried all day and no luck
[21:18] <ikonia> the ammount of people who really need it are %1
[21:18] <gordonjcp> failmaster: and if your drive starts to go bad, *all* your data is gone
[21:19] <ikonia> the ammount of people want it because they think they "need" encyption to stop their silly pictures being seen %99
[21:19] <gordonjcp> failmaster: one single bad sector, and that's it - gone, forever
[21:19] <ikonia> the ammount of people who make a mess of their machine with it and have no idea how to manage it %99.9
[21:19] <gordonjcp> ikonia: oh totally
[21:19] <failmaster> gordonjcp, no actually, it helped me several times, stability is a consensus as always, depending on the context someone makes a choice
[21:19] <failmaster> and saying that it's wrong "because, what if..."
[21:20] <failmaster> sorry for my english
[21:20] <Cyrax> So from adapter type.. is it wrong virtualbox version for the ubuntu?
[21:20] <ikonia> Cyrax: no
[21:20] <TJ-> failmaster: I've just referred back to an article I wrote about it back in the 'Hardy' days. Much of it is still relevant; check this bit out in particular, I think it helps address your Q http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/HardyEncryptedLVM#EncryptedDiskConfiguration
[21:20] <Cyrax> Then idk whats wrong.. idk how to fix it either
[21:20] <ikonia> Cyrax: the problem is Xorg is not starting up, xorg is what makes your desktop display
[21:21] <failmaster> TJ-, many thanks for your attention!
[21:21] <Cyrax> So how do i get this Xorg with it?
[21:21] <ikonia> Cyrax: depends why it's failing.
[21:22] <failmaster> Cyrax, is it possible to show us xorg logs?
[21:22] <Cyrax> how do i check it?
[21:23] <failmaster> !xorg.log
[21:23] <failmaster> whatever, it's all common stuff https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems
[21:24] <failmaster> Cyrax,  as it written in there, server log file(s): /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[21:24] <failmaster> but most probably grep EE will point to the problems directly
[21:25] <usr13> Cyrax: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:26] <budmang> Can anyone help me downgrade a kernel? 12.04 ubuntu. Ive tried everything. no matter what it simply will not boot with the older kernel. Always picks the newest latest one.
[21:26] <nukleuz> Anyone here that could help me out with a server that wont boot? :)
[21:26] <usr13> Cyrax: As failmaster points out, you might try:  grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:26] <usr13> nukleuz: Sure.
[21:26] <TJ-> budmang: When the system being booting hold down Shift key to access the GRUB bootloader menu, then choose "Previous Versions" sub-menu
[21:27] <sinkensabe> Hi, I cant get vim to reinstall properly. How can I restore etc/vim/vimrc to default settings i.e. as when ubuntu is installed ?
[21:27] <usr13> budmang: Is the kernel installe3d?
[21:27] <usr13> *installed*
[21:27] <budmang> TJ, it is a remote system, if I have the tech do that it works, i guess then I could remove the other kernel... but there should be a way just to make it default no?
[21:27] <Cyrax> How do i copy and paste the log from the ubuntu on virtualbox?
[21:27] <budmang> usr13: yes the kernel I want is installed.
[21:28] <usr13> ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*list  #First see what is on the list.
[21:30] <syntroPi> can someone help me tunneling RDP port through ssh connection? It worked before, i did not change anything and now it stopped working for some reason i have to find out... i really need this working soon
[21:30] <nukleuz> Superb :) The thing is that I followed a guide on how to remove old kernels from AskUbuntu; I considered the guide as safe, since several users confirmed that it worked. But it resulted in a system without a kernel; and several packages god unintalled. This is a RAID setup where /boot is /dev/md0 (sba1, sdb1) anf /dev/md1 is (sdb3, sda3). When i lost all my files I had to restore my server from a sync (rsync)
[21:30] <nukleuz> backup that was made erlier that day; and now the server wont boot at all. I have updated grub, and tried out everything that I could find on Google/Ask Ubuntu etc. I have used chroot to access the servers filesystem :)
[21:31] <budmang> usr13: it just outputs the kernel I want and the one running
[21:32] <budmang> nukleuz: the os/data/boot is on the raid too?
[21:32] <budmang> does it boot into that mini shell/prompt?
[21:32] <Cyrax> failmaster: here is the photo of the log: http://puu.sh/40t6h.png
[21:33] <usr13> budmang: Is the system running now?
[21:33] <budmang> usr13: yes.
[21:33] <budmang> I just did that LS command you gave me on it.
[21:33] <budmang> I even tried an apt HOLD on the kernel/version
[21:34] <usr13> budmang: I suppose one easy way is to remove the one you are using now and do a reinstall of the other one.
[21:34] <budmang> can I remove the one that is active/inuse?
[21:34] <usr13> (the one you want to use.)
[21:35] <usr13> budmang: There may be a better way, (and I welcome additional input), so......
[21:35] <nukleuz> budmang: that mini shell / promt? When i chroot? Yes. And commands works well, thats how updated grub and removed som kernels when the filesystem was restored again.
[21:35] <Cyrax> So what does it mean on that photo, failmaster?
[21:35] <failmaster> Cyrax, here you go, there is no module for your virtual video adapter for some reason, you may want to continue investigate it reading about how it should be shipped, maybe ther is even package in target system repos
[21:35] <budmang> right nukleuz I have a raid ubuntu box does the same, we have to type a few things to get it booted up(I have not found the full fix for it yet).
[21:36] <Cyrax> I have windows 8 64 bit and my computer is new,so its nothing wrong with my computer
[21:36] <budmang> usr13: no I just mean can you remove the current in use kernel :)
[21:36] <budmang> I did not know that Im trying now.
[21:36] <syntroPi> why does my ssh tunnel not work at all? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978741/
[21:36] <budmang> couple how toos say DO NOT remove this kernel(the one running).
[21:37] <failmaster> Cyrax, try switching to console like ctrl+alt+f1 for example, check out if internet connection could be configured and if yes, it would be easier to try to reinstall that virtualbox thing... guest-additions if i remember well
[21:37] <Cyrax> What if it was wrong version of virtualbox?
[21:37] <failmaster> Cyrax, i suspect that it should bring all that stuff including that module
[21:38] <usr13> budmang: Yes, far as I know.  You probably need to remove the linux-image-3.x.x as well is the linux-headers-3.x.x
[21:39] <usr13> budmang: Again, if anyone else has an alternative idea they can let us know....
[21:39] <budmang> Course. I just tried yours rebooting now :)
[21:40] <Cyrax> So how can i fix it? i really have no clue
[21:40] <usr13> budmang: Are you sure you can't fix what is wrong with the newer one?
[21:40] <Cyrax> Adn what is the newest version of virtualbox for windows 8 64 bit?
[21:40] <failmaster> Cyrax, google for it, it's not that hard actually, i would start from here http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp11306688
[21:41] <budmang> usr13: This is corporate BS. It must be downgraded to the current kernel of the other production machines.
[21:41] <syntroPi> budmang, i did this once like this "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev ; sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys ; sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc ; sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash ; grub-install --force /dev/sda ; exit ; reboot"
[21:41] <syntroPi> from usb boot repair console
[21:41] <VSpike> Hi. I have 12.04, with precise backports enabled. Why do I have znc 0.206 instead of 1.0-2~ubuntu12.04.1 which https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/znc suggests?
[21:41] <budmang> synTax: yea ive repaired them before and appreciate your reply.. it just seems to be that one hardware raid one.
[21:42] <syntroPi> budmang, it was gpt on hw raid with mbr grub
[21:42] <Cyrax> nothing there about download link for latest and newest version of virtualbox
[21:42] <budmang> syntroPi: yes exactly..
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> VSpike:  not everthing gets back ported perhaps?  with znc specifically - i tend to use the source, to keep it as up to date as possible.
[21:44] <serocul> hello
[21:45] <serocul> support and help for backbox
[21:45] <usr13> serocul: Yes...?
[21:45] <serocul> channel backbox in irc
[21:45] <serocul> please
[21:46] <xkernel> I'm looking for app that allows team collaboration like desktop sharing with real time drawings
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> serocul  type /join #blackbox, it's not supported here
[21:46] <serocul> how i join
[21:46] <serocul> thank
[21:47] <usr13> serocul: http://irc.lc/autistici/backbox/
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> ah, back, not black
[21:48] <VSpike> Dr_Willis: yes, true. But that page does suggest backports should have that package version, unless I'm reading it wrong
[21:48] <usr13> serocul: On irc.autistici.org you should find channel  #backbox
[21:49] <felon> i did: gtf 1024 768 60, and i finally got a return of # 1024x768 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 47.70 kHz; pclk: 64.11 MHz
[21:49] <felon>   Modeline "1024x768_60.00"  64.11  1024 1080 1184 1344  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[21:49] <ubuntnoob> anyone know how to fix repository information?
[21:49] <serocul> how connect i using xchat
[21:50] <Cyrac> virtualbox 4.2.16 is the newest,right?
[21:50] <felon> did i just get my HSync +Vsync ? that i can add in xorg.conf to get my 16:9 cause im stuck in 4:3 ?
[21:50] <felon> anyone ?
[21:50] <usr13> Cyrac: On what OS?
[21:50] <Cyrac> Windows 8 64 bit
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> VSpike:  from the liuttle ive used bacpoorts.. not a whole lot gets added to it. but i tend to stick to the latest releases  so rarely need backports
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> Cyrax  better ask in ##windows what soft is being used in windows
[21:51] <usr13> Cyrax: Looks like it is...
[21:52] <failmaster> TJ-, sorry for being a bit annoying, but the thing is... i assume that scenario which feeds the key is already shipped with cryptsetup, because in my case sdb1 unlocks flawlessly during boot for example without keyscript option, so the main issue as i see it - using 3rd party keyscript for this basic operation while having this option out-of-the-box already, so maybe you know by accident what makes it possible by default? =)
[21:52] <Cyrax> usr: just trying to reinstall virtualbox and see if the problem i ahve with ubuntu get fixed.. wich I hope
[21:52] <syntroPi> why does my ssh tunnel not work at all? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978741/
[21:53] <Vivekananda> histo: if you are around and got a min I have a printing question. using lpr. Can I pm ?
[21:54] <failmaster> Cyrax, if you have read the official reference (the link i gave you last time) you should suspect that it won't fix by itself, because the problem is having guest-additions on target system installed, which didn't happen for some reason and when nothing special was done, this reason is mysterious enough to make a conclusion it won't go away by itself
[21:56] <scorp1us> anyone know what the package name is for QtQuick.Controls is?
[21:56] <ubuntnoob> Failed to load repository information, anyone know how to fix this?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> ubuntnoob:  pastebin the apt-get update  output for the channel to see.. it could be the repo is down, or has bad info.
[21:58] <serocul> hello how conection
[21:58] <serocul> irc.autistici.org
[21:58] <guest_01> anyone know if mir will still retain x forwarding abilities of x
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> serocul:   the xchat homepage has some VERY well done starter guides and docs on how to use the client..   try /connect servername   or /server servername
[21:58] <TJ-> failmaster: Sorry... was out in the wheat fields with the Husky! Yes, by default cryptsetup installs the script from "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot" into the initramfs. Take a look at the scripts below /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> !mir
[21:59] <failmaster> TJ-, many thanks
[21:59] <serocul> thanks i try
[22:00] <Kratisto78> I'm looking to ask a few questions about Ubuntu.  Is this the correct place?
[22:00] <usr13> Kratisto78: Yep
[22:01] <Kratisto78> I am running xubuntu on this computer but I just bought a lenovo S400 and I'm trying to put ubuntu on it but I am having trouble
[22:02] <usr13> Kratisto78: What seems to be the problem?
[22:02] <Kratisto78> The farthest I could get was using usb to boot I tried to click try linux before installing in grub but my screen goes black
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Kratisto78
[22:03] <Kratisto78> I'll check into that thankyou
[22:05] <failmaster> TJ-, however appears that cryptroot is the hook responsible for it, which throws a warning on initramfs-update while running it's checks against rootfs entry in crypttab that doesn't meet the condition if [ "$key" != "none" ] && [ -z "$KEYSCRIPT" ]; so it's none "none" due to the fact there is a key file mentioned, which somehow leads to unbootable system lol Many thanks TJ- i had to re-check it unfortunately... Thank you!
[22:06] <apb1963> So I just installed a brand new router.  I've got a windoze machine and a ubuntu box.  Windoze is fine, it's where I'm typing from now.  Ubuntu has no ethernet address whatsoever.  However, the router knows ubuntu's hostname so apparently it sees it.  I've tried service networking restart which gives an odd error, I've also tried rebooting.
[22:06] <TJ-> failmaster: From the docs, you do still need to provide the keyfile= part in crypttab
[22:06] <apb1963> Not sure where to go from here.
[22:06] <failmaster> TJ-, so basically i should give it a try - pointing keyscript option to cryptroot scenario?
[22:06] <apb1963> When I installed 12.04 LTS server yesterday, there was no network attached.
[22:07] <apb1963> So I'm guessing something didn't get configured properly I suppose.
[22:07] <TJ-> failmaster: See section 6 "Exotic key types" of /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz
[22:07] <histo> Vivekananda: I don't know much of anything about lpr
[22:07] <failmaster> TJ-, there is a sentence from there in http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization which make this part mysterious
[22:08] <failmaster> but it takes the script in case of non-rootfs device on boot =)
[22:08] <OerHeks> apb1963, this manual is a good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[22:08] <failmaster> what a mess
[22:09] <apb1963> 12.04 ?
[22:09] <apb1963> close enough?
[22:09] <OerHeks> apb1963, should be the same i guess > https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[22:09] <apb1963> thank you
[22:10] <TJ-> failmaster: There's a script "crypto-usb-key.sh" attached to another of my crypt articles: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/HardyRAID5EncryptedLVM#EncryptedDiskConfiguration
[22:10] <histo> apb1963: check your cable
[22:11] <histo> apb1963: and on the ubuntu box sudo service networking restart    or restart the machine
[22:11] <Vivekananda> okay
[22:11] <TJ-> failmaster: I think the thing to understand is, if you provide the key-file name as an absolute path, and that path is mounted when cryptsetup runs, then no helper script is needed. If however you're using an encrypted rootfs, then it needs a helper script since by definition nothing except the initramfs is mounted - and you won't want to store the key-file in there!
[22:11] <Vivekananda> but would you know about writing demons
[22:12] <failmaster> TJ-, /boot is mounted on that stage
[22:12] <failmaster> TJ-, and non rootfs device gets unlocked successfully
[22:12] <TJ-> But you won't be storing the key-file in an unencrypted boot?
[22:13] <Kratisto78> ubottu: I tried adding the nomodeset this time I could see a small amount of purple stretched across the top and it looked like it was loading into ubuntu but eventually it just reset and reverted back to windows.  I just put nomodeset right after quiet and splash
[22:13] <failmaster> TJ-, i will because wherever i store it it's unencrypted, so boot in my case is removable physically
[22:13] <TJ-> failmaster: The docs say, when not providign absolute paths, cryptsetup script will look in certain pre-determined directories for the files
[22:13] <Kratisto78> guess i meant usr13
[22:14] <TJ-> failmaster: OK, that makes sense, if its a removable USB device.
[22:14] <Kratisto78> usr13: I tried adding the nomodeset this time I could see a small amount of purple stretched across the top and it looked like it was loading into ubuntu but eventually it just reset and reverted back to windows.  I just put nomodeset right after quiet and splash
[22:14] <failmaster> TJ-, that makes me sure i'm not the victim of evil-maid, that's why key is under /boot/key and i don't see the reason why it should be more complicated
[22:14] <apb1963> OK so I believe that eth0 never got configured/created, since ifconfig doesn't show anything but lo... so do I follow the "manual" method in the ... manual?  Or is there something else that will set it up for me?
[22:14] <histo> apb1963: ifconfig eth0 up
[22:14] <histo> apb1963: or ifup eth0
[22:15] <failmaster> TJ-, what is funny is that it actually worked on 12.04 2 months ago
[22:15] <usr13> Kratisto78: Is this a virtual machine install?
[22:15] <apb1963> no, that doesn't work.... there's no device
[22:15] <TJ-> failmaster: So, have you specified the absolute path to the key-file in crypttab whilst /boot is mounted then?
[22:15] <Kratisto78> usr13: Nope I want to wipe my windows off this eventually
[22:15] <histo> apb1963: or ip link set eth0 up
[22:15] <usr13> Kratisto78: So right now it's a Dual-Boot setup, right?
[22:16] <OerHeks> apb1963, on ubuntu server you need to set it up through the installationwizard, or manually after setup because you had no internet available.
[22:16] <failmaster> TJ-, yep, just /boot/key but hook just skips this entry with warning during update of initramfs-environment image
[22:16] <usr13> Kratisto78: Is it 12.04 or 13.04, or  ___________?
[22:16] <failmaster> TJ-, skips only for rootfs device
[22:16] <xkernel> I'm looking for app that allows team collaboration like desktop sharing with real time drawings
[22:17] <Kratisto78> usr13: Its only a windows install I'm trying to install ubuntu and I believe 13.04 but I can double check
[22:17] <apb1963> OerHeks: So I would follow the manual method on the page you gave me yes?
[22:17] <usr13> Kratisto78: Is it wubi?
[22:17] <histo> xkernel: there are plenty of colaboration apps. Search the software center or alternativeto.net
[22:17] <OerHeks> apb1963, yes, that would be fine
[22:18] <TJ-> failmaster: which version of Ubuntu is this? I'm reading the scripts for 13.04 right now but they could have changed
[22:18] <Kratisto78> usr13: No I didn't use that at all I just used a program to mount an ubuntu iso on a usb
[22:18] <usr13> Kratisto78: So  you didn't really "install" ubuntu yet, right?
[22:18] <failmaster> TJ-, 13.04 came up with this problem on freshly installed instance http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization
[22:18] <Kratisto78> usr13: no not yet
[22:19] <usr13> Kratisto78: So right now, your just trying to boot Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[22:19] <apb1963> ok histo's last command - ip link set eth0 up seems to have created the interface, as ifconfig recognizes it now
[22:19] <histo> apb1963: wasn't this system working previously?
[22:19] <Kratisto78> I just logged into windows and looked at the usb and wubi is something I can launch.  Do i try that?  And yes I'm just trying to boot into it using a live usb
[22:19] <apb1963> histo: no.  new install
[22:19] <apb1963> as of yesterday
[22:19] <SuperLag> grub seems different than what I remember it
[22:20] <SuperLag> How do you change which kernel boots, by default, if several are listed in the menu.lst file?
[22:20] <histo> apb1963: is this a server install  with no desktop?
[22:21] <apb1963> so eth0 shows up now.... but no ip4 address... there does seem to be an ip6 address... but my ISP only gives me ip4 afaik... plus now of course with the new router, I'm behind nat so my router is assigning ip4.... I think.
[22:21] <k1l_> SuperLag: for grub2 there is no menu.lst anymore.
[22:21] <histo> SuperLag: you shoulnd't have a menu.1st with grub2 you edit /etc/default/grub and after you make changes sudo update-grub
[22:21] <apb1963> histo: correct
[22:21] <histo> apb1963: then configure /etc/network/interfaces to put up your interface on boot and dhcp or use static whatever.
[22:21] <SuperLag> k1l_: well, that would do it, wouldn't it? :)
[22:21] <k1l_> SuperLag: see the wiki pages for grub2, read it and get used to the new script-style.
[22:21] <apb1963> k
[22:21] <usr13> SuperLag: /boot/grub/menu.lst. It has been replaced by /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[22:22] <usr13> Kratisto78:  So, which ISO is it?  12.04 64bit?   12.04 32bit?  13.04 64bit?  13.04 32bit?  __________?
[22:22] <xqee> hello here is my problem, i want that script detect any video filetype not only mp4 so how i can solve this string? /home/user/mediass.sh $FPATH/*.mp4
[22:22] <John____> i have a question is it possible that i can use ufw on servers like ubuntu server?
[22:22] <failmaster> TJ-, just to make it clear, my steps where pretty simple - set it up with default passphrase auth for both hdds in system, after that leave the only keyslot for key file auth, so both devices have only 1 option - being unlocked with the key file, which works on boot only for non-rootfs device (any mount point but /)
[22:23] <usr13> John____: You probably just need to create a firewall-script
[22:23] <Kratisto78> usr13: I thought it was 13.04 64 bit but I'm not sure.  Is there anywhere on the usb i can check to confirm?
[22:23] <TJ-> failmaster: The code in the script is at lines 281-284 of /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot
[22:23] <Cyrax> Even reinstall virtualbox and install ubuntu 12.04 LTS didnt help.. still it gets me only in terminal. I guess I need abit older version of ubuntu.. version 10 or 11
[22:24] <TJ-> failmaster: There has to be a key-script if there's a key-file, according to that code
[22:24] <histo> Cyrax: ubuntu boots fine in virtualbox
[22:24] <usr13> Kratisto78: Probably, not sure, but do you have the name of the ISO image file?
[22:24] <Cyrax> it wont get me in the desktop.. said something about Xorg.. idk.. but it only gets me into terminal only.. nothing else
[22:24] <xqee> can i just write like this /home/user/mediass.sh $FPATH/*.mp4, mkv, avi ?
[22:25] <Kratisto78> usr13: Oh yeah I believe this is the one I put on its ubuntu 13.04 desktop amd64
[22:26] <failmaster> TJ-, the only symptom that gives me start fro troubleshooting is cryptroot hook warning during `update-initramfs`, thank you, will give it a look, but... the fact it should be there is not defined according to manpages =) and the fact it works with non-root devices in system makes it even more frustrating, so it was a bug when it used to work liek this in 12.04 for rootfs device :D
[22:26] <Cyrax> histo: So what shall I do?
[22:27] <TJ-> failmaster: but /boot/ is mounted by then. It isn't mounted during initrd, is it?
[22:27] <histo> !md5sum | Cyrax
[22:27] <TJ-> GRUB loads the kernel and initrd image into memory from the /boot/ partition, but it isn't mounted in the initrd environment
[22:27] <Cyrax> I already checked that link.. i didnt understand any of it
[22:28] <failmaster> TJ-, if so, how comes that my sdb1 currently unlocks with key file?
[22:28] <apb1963> that was the ticket.  Thank you histo & OerHeks !
[22:28] <histo> Cyrax: check the howtomd5sum page
[22:29] <xqee> hello here is my problem, i want that script detect any video filetype not only mp4 so how i can solve this string? /home/user/mediass.sh $FPATH/*.mp4 | can i just write /home/user/mediass.sh $FPATH/*.mp4, mkv, avi ?
[22:29] <histo> Cyrax: you need to obtain the md5sum of your iso file and compair it to the md5sums on the ubuntu.com site to ensure your file matches
[22:29] <histo> xqee: [1,2,3] ?
[22:29] <Cyrax> ehm.. idk how.. please tell me how
[22:29] <Cyrax> i'm new to ubuntu
[22:30] <Wulframn> !md5sum | Cyrax
[22:30] <histo> Cyrax: are you in ubuntu or windows?
[22:30] <usr13> Kratisto78: Did you run a checksum on the ISO imaga?
[22:30] <xqee> histo i want script detect only avi, mp4 and mkv
[22:30] <histo> Wulframn: I tried that already. He can't understand the page.
[22:30] <histo> xqee: k
[22:30] <Wulframn> histo: My bad
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> xqee:  you will need to use a regular expression for the file.*whaterver* pattern   AND watch out for spaces in the file names.
[22:30] <Kratisto78> Nope not really sure what that is
[22:30] <Cyrax> I have windows 8 64 bit and running virtualbox on it.. i wnat to install ubuntu on virtualbox
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> xqee:  id suggest asking in bash and finding some tutorials on regular expressions
[22:31] <usr13> Kratisto78: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum
[22:31] <Jordan_U> xqee: What is your end goal?
[22:31] <Kratisto78> usr13: wait I just tried the nomodeset again and it randomly booted in
[22:31] <Kratisto78> usr13: should I just click install ubuntu 13.04?
[22:31] <xqee> Jordan_U if script find mkv, mp4 or avi it will create mediainfo in txt file
[22:32] <xqee> Jordan_U can handle that fow few file formats its working only for one
[22:32] <TJ-> failmaster: I don't know how much clearer I can say it: sdb1 is unlocked because it is mounted after the real rootfs has been unlocked, and at that point /boot/ has also been mounted because of the entry in /etc/fstab. At the point that that linux and initrd are running /boot/ is *not* mounted and therefore the key-file is not accessible. Also, the key-file for rootfs *needs* a helper script installing that'll 'cat' the key-file to stdout so it can be read by the
[22:32] <TJ-> script in local-top
[22:32] <Wulframn> Cyrax: You have a fresh virtual environment to work with?
[22:33] <Sharp1> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 and if I set up a hotcorner to switch workspaces in Unity Tweak Tool, it doesn't work after I log out and log in again. The settings stays the same in Unity Tweak Tool, but the corner does nothing. Does anyone have a solution?
[22:33] <usr13> Kratisto78: Go to the file you downloaded and run md5sum on it and google the result.
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> xqee:  for just 3 file types.. have it just repeate whatever command 3 times.. once for each pattern.
[22:33] <Cyrax> u mean java? on virtualbox or ubuntu?
[22:33] <trace30m> does fglrx work on newest ubuntu with an ATI HD4350 ?
[22:33] <histo> Cyrax: you need to use a windows application to verify the hash of your ubuntu iso
[22:33] <usr13> Kratisto78: md5sum ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso   #Wait for result and google it.
[22:33] <Ari-Yang> trace30m, fglrx is garbage ;/
[22:33] <trace30m> Ari-Yang: why?
[22:33] <Wulframn> Cyrax: Do you have a fresh virtualbox environment to work with? Or have you attempted to install Ubuntu in the environment?
[22:33] <Ari-Yang> trace30m, horrible 2d acceleration
[22:33] <histo> Cyrax: it should match this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[22:34] <usr13> Kratisto78: Oh wait.    I have an option to instlal on the desktop since its in ubuntu
[22:35] <histo> !language | Kratisto78
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> trace30m, can't point you the way, just google what I said, check phoronix out too, bye
[22:35] <TJ-> failmaster: GRUB mounts /boot/ to read the bootloader menu and files, and then it chains the linux kernel and initrd image into memory and hands over to them. At that point, *Linux* does *not* have /boot/ mounted.
[22:35] <Kratisto78> Sorry everyone my fault
[22:35] <trace30m> Ari-Yang: is the opensource driver enough for 3D?
[22:35] <budmang> usr13: that worked FYI
[22:35] <budmang> sorry stepped out for lunch.
[22:35] <xqee> Thanks All
[22:36] <failmaster> TJ-, how it takes my initrd image requiring appropriate fs module, what is the default mount point then at this stage? =)
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> trace30m:  try it and see how well it works for you.
[22:36] <Cyrax> histo: So what i do? i dont understand this hash5sum or what it was called.. so u need to help find a way to fix it
[22:36] <usr13> budmang: Good.  Thanks for telling us.
[22:36] <Wulframn> Cyrax: To fix it you need to download a fresh .iso.
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> Cyrax:  if the iso is a bad download. you redownload it. (torrents can help make sure its a good download)
[22:37] <budmang> usr13: why would it not take the default :)
[22:37] <usr13> Kratisto78: Ok... go for it.
[22:37] <Cyrax> Can u give me a fresh fixed one please?
[22:37] <usr13> budmang: Not sure...
[22:37] <TJ-> failmaster: initrd is mounted as a read-only / file-system... it is replaced by the *real* rootfs just before /sbin/init is executed
[22:37] <Kratisto78> usr13: Okay thanks I'll try it hopefully it works and I don't need to report back
[22:37] <linuxliam_> what is the best irc client based on features and ease of use granted i am using xchat but i looked at launchpad bug listings for xchat some have been there for years with no fix i would love to fix it myself but im not a developer and input appreciated
[22:37] <Wulframn> Cyrax: Do you know how to use torrents?
[22:37] <Cyrax> yes ofcours
[22:38] <usr13> Kratisto78: Ok.  Good luck.  (We'll be here....)
[22:38] <Cyrax> problem is to fix that ubuntu u said
[22:38] <TJ-> failmaster: So if the real rootfs is encrypted, and its key-file is on the /boot/ file-system, then initrd has to have a script that will mount /boot/ file-sytem onto /boot/ in order to read the key-file
[22:38] <failmaster> TJ-, whatever, there should be a mount point for filesystem which contains initrd image?
[22:38] <histo> Cyrax: I don't need to do anything. You need to read the page that you've been provided as it clearly points you in the right direction for obtaining a hash value of the iso you have on your machine. After you get that you compare it to the link I provided you with the hashes to confirm it matches.
[22:39] <Cyrax> i jsut have to install a older ubuntu
[22:39] <Wulframn> Cyrax: download this .torrent file and use it to download Ubuntu 12.04 via your preferred torrent client. http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[22:39] <usr13> Cyrax: md5sum ubuntu-what-ever.iso   #Wait for result and google it.
[22:39] <TJ-> failmaster: initrd is the root and it contains an /init script that does all the early set-up work, including unlocking a possibly encrypted rootfs that will replace initrd
[22:39] <usr13> Cyrax: Which ISO image do you have?
[22:39] <failmaster> TJ-, initrd image is a file on a filesystem, that's why grub needs a module for this
[22:40] <TJ-> failmaster: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-initrd/index.html
[22:40] <TJ-> failmaster: "The initial RAM disk (initrd) is an initial root file system that is mounted prior to when the real root file system is available"
[22:41] <Cyrax> just curious.. about setting ram.. can i set it to any when creating virtual drive or must it b 512MB
[22:41] <failmaster> TJ-, agreed, but technically it mounts unpacking from the file which is built as /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-blah so it has to mount the media with boot
[22:42] <Jordan_U> failmaster: Why do you want to have a separate key file for your LUKS container rather than doing things normally (with everything needed in the LUKS header)?
[22:42] <usr13> Cyrax: Depends on how much you have, how much you think you need or can afford for Ubuntu.
[22:42] <TJ-> failmaster: *what* "has to mount the media with boot"  ... that would be GRUB... and Linux has just replaced GRUB in memory and is executing. GRUB is dead!
[22:42] <Cyrax> I got 8GB ram
[22:43] <usr13> Cyrax: Give it 2G or so.
[22:43] <failmaster> Jordan_U, not sure what you mean exactly, i jsut want key file auth on boot for every luks device without 3rd party script
[22:43] <TJ-> failmaster: So, the answer to your issue is, USE A KEY-SCRIPT !
[22:44] <usr13> Cyrax: I don't even think Ubuntu will run on only 512M
[22:44] <failmaster> TJ-, this answer should be given in /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz and there is none
[22:45] <Wulframn> usr13: 512M is the minimum recommended amount
[22:45] <Wulframn> It's gonna run *slooow*
[22:45] <TJ-> failmaster: "...if you wish to make use of more complex setups (such as root-key-on-usb-memory), you can create a script which does all the steps necessary to retrieve the key and then prints it to stdout"
[22:46] <usr13> Cyrax: If it does, it would be pretty slow and clunky, (unless you go for lubuntu or xubuntu).  But as Wulframn suggests, 512M is "minimum" recommended amount, so...
[22:46] <failmaster> TJ-, it gives me an option to have such scenario in case i will decide to hide it deeper, however it is clear for me that grub should mount filesystem with kernel image and initrd before ram disk starts to spin providing initramfs environment
[22:46] <Jordan_U> failmaster: Is this keyfile contained on a separate media that you plan to keep more secure than the media containing the root filesystem itself?
[22:46] <failmaster> TJ-, that's why i already had such setup
[22:46] <failmaster> Jordan_U, on /boot which is removable device physically
[22:46] <Wulframn> I was throwing it out there that that was the minimum; I *strongly* recommend a minimum of 2G unless you want to know what it's like to ride a snail uphill through molasses!
[22:47] <usr13> Cyrax: Considering what Wulframn must posted, 1G or 1.5G might be ok.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> failmaster: A removable device which you plan to keep more secure than the internal drive?
[22:47] <Jordan_U> failmaster: More physically secure that is.
[22:47] <failmaster> Jordan_U, exactly, because internal drives without bootloader and keys in there are already secured, that's how i see the point of encryption
[22:48] <TJ-> failmaster: You are failing to understand that whatever GRUB does, the Linux kernel does *not* inherit. GRUB doesn't 'mount' file-systems for Linux.
[22:48] <dminuth> hey guys, am having following problem.  Ubuntu 12.04LTS, am not seeing my battery charge level on a toshiba satellite l745d.  I tried any and all Ubuntu based distro's and am having same proble,.. Tried Debian and it has it.  But i like Ubuntu.  So any idea how to get that to work.  I know it has to do with the toshiba-acpi kernel module but i am not advanced enough to find the solution
[22:48] <usr13> Cyrax: Wulframn agrees that 2G is good.
[22:48] <TJ-> failmaster: I've been using this exact scenario for my servers for over five years; it needs the key-script.
[22:48] <Vivekananda> I am trying to print directly to printer from ubuntu ( ie without print dialogue). Shoould I do this or should I first write a .txt file and then print it or should I write a file in a shared folder, find a host ( win7) program to monitor the folder and print to the printer directly
[22:49] <failmaster> TJ-, so it's necessary to have the key file built into initrd in order to make it work for rootfs device?
[22:50] <usr13> Vivekananda: lpr  Hit enter, start typing, Ctrl-d  at start of line to finish, or lpr file-name.txt
[22:50] <TJ-> failmaster: not the key-file no, the key-script. The key-script then does what is needed (in your case, it mounts /boot/ temporarily, reads the key-file, unmounts /boot/, writes the key-file content to stdout, and exits
[22:50] <Jordan_U> failmaster: You seem to have it completely backwards. The drives containing the encrypted data are useless to an attacker if they steal the laptop (assuming this is a laptop), but the key (contained on your flash drive) is very valuable. The key should be stored on the *most* physically secure media, not the least physically secure media (if it's stored unencrypted in the first place).
[22:50] <usr13> Vivekananda: ... that is, if the desired printer is set as server default.  (lpq should tell you that).
[22:51] <dminuth> Toshiba laptop not showing battery charge level, Can anyone help ?
[22:51] <failmaster> Jordan_U, it's not a laptop, it's a olid box that weights about 16kg and i have a very exotic backup for this key file
[22:51] <syntroPi> aaarg where  is the gui way to add a user to a group????? do i really need terminal or edit /etc/groups manually??
[22:51] <TJ-> failmaster: All the servers in my racks use the same method
[22:51] <usr13> Vivekananda: You should also be able to do   lpr file.pdf   or   lpr file.jpg
[22:51] <histo> Vivekananda: lpr filename -P printername
[22:52] <Jordan_U> failmaster: Why keep your most important secret (the decryption key) on something that weighs a few grams and is easily stolen then?
[22:52] <failmaster> TJ-, i got it, but why do i need a keyscript at all if at some point i have an absolute path which is correct at the timeline where cryptsetup takes place
[22:53] <Vivekananda> usr13: I have a guest ubuntu on vbox on a guest win7. here is the problem I am facing --http://www.gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6215384
[22:53] <failmaster> Jordan_U, because no once can steal it from me
[22:53] <dminuth> <--- requiring help for toshiba-acpi.
[22:53] <failmaster> one* lol
[22:53] <Wulframn> failmaster: are you andre the giant and skilled in all forms of martial arts?
[22:53] <TJ-> failmaster: How does Linux and the initrd scripts know where to find the file-system to mount to read the key-file? Because each admin might choose to do that bit differently, we're left to provide our own key-script
[22:53] <Jordan_U> failmaster: How is your USB drive secured? Do you keep it in a safe when not in use?
[22:53] <failmaster> Wulframn, no, i got my profit-habits
[22:53] <Vivekananda> usr13: histo the file prints but with lots of weird things. eg sometimes one print goes through but all paper in the tray is cycled through!! other times I get 2 or more prints as in the link I posted above
[22:54] <Wulframn> failmaster: Then it is easily stolen. You it would behoove you to listen to those attempting to educate you.
[22:54] <Vivekananda> usr13: histo the file prints but with lots of weird things. eg sometimes one print goes through but all paper in the tray is cycled through!! other times I get 2 or more prints as in the link I posted above  http://www.gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6215384
[22:54] <Vivekananda> sorry
[22:54] <histo> Vivekananda: print driver issue?
[22:55] <failmaster> TJ-, i wouldn't argue if it wasn't working 2 months ago with 12.04, but before that i used the keyscript =)
[22:55] <failmaster> i didn't need one 2 months ago
[22:55] <failmaster> and i'm 100% sure about it
[22:56] <failmaster> Wulframn, did it ever happen to you, something was stolen from you?
[22:56] <Vivekananda> histo: I tried to locate the driver and set up the printer but not of much help
[22:56] <TJ-> failmaster: Maybe the previous keyscript was inherited without your realising?
[22:56] <Vivekananda> I located the driver and installed it and the printer showed up -- brother (HL 2270dw )
[22:57] <failmaster> TJ-, how, when i was the one editing crypttab the same way
[22:57] <Wulframn> failmaster: Yes, I had a trailer with ~$10,000 worth of lawn equipment stolen from me once. It was securely locked, monitored, and had a high, locked fence around it. If someone wants to take something from you they will find a way to take it.
[22:57] <Vivekananda> but still did ont find it in cups setup so left it. Also someone told me that vbox uses its own printers
[22:58] <failmaster> Wulframn, nothing was stolen from me for all my life and it's not like i sit at home 24hrs a day, i got my own methods and telling about it is insecure for me =)
[22:58] <Jordan_U> failmaster: The default for LUKS is to have a version of the encryption key, which is itself encrypted with a passphrase, stored in the LUKS header. This is a sane and decently secure configuration. It sounds like your configuration is both less secure (because the key is being stored in plain text / unencrypted) and more complicated. I recommend that you rething your configuration and go with something more secure, simple, and maintain
[22:58] <failmaster> but as a matter of giving a clue it's all about forming necessary habits of yours
[22:58] <Wulframn> What's that old saying? Well, the computer-guy version of it is: There's only two types of people in the world: those who back up their data and those who've never had a hard drive failure.
[22:58] <Vivekananda> histo: how do I ask ubuntu to use the drivers I installed manually for the printer ?
[22:59] <histo> Vivekananda: use cups to select whatever driver
[22:59] <histo> !cups | Vivekananda
[22:59] <histo> Vivekananda: opena  browser and go to localhost:631
[22:59] <failmaster> Jordan_U, it only sounds like that because destroying the key in the right moment will save you from telling the password to people how know how to extract it from you body =)
[22:59] <TJ-> Jordan_U: "stored unencrypted" not so. I use IronKey F200 fingerprint-secured USB flash drives as the key store.
[22:59] <failmaster> who*
[23:00] <failmaster> Jordan_U, sorry for my english, i'm not that fast enough
[23:00] <bekks> TJ-: fingerprint secured? Thats not really secure.
[23:00] <TJ-> bekks: From casual loss or copying, it is
[23:01] <histo> bekks: depends on the fingerprint scanner accuracy
[23:01] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Does failmaster use an IronKey F200 fingerprint-secured USB flash drive? I expect that your setup is secure, as you seem to have a much better understanding of the technology than failmaster.
[23:01] <failmaster> TJ-, but actually you gave me a very good clue how to deal with it! i really appreciate your backup mate!
[23:01] <bekks> Depends on the will of the attacker to cut your finger...
[23:01] <benzrf> when you live boot is there a default root password?
[23:01] <bekks> !root | benzrf
[23:02] <TJ-> bekks: At that level, the same argument applies to being 'persuaded' to reveal the passphrase/password
[23:02] <benzrf> bekks: yes, but on the liveusb
[23:02] <benzrf> :P
[23:02] <failmaster> Jordan_U, it's not necessary while you have a custom device which can destroy the media instantly
[23:02] <bekks> benzrf: That applies to the live usb as well.
[23:02] <Wulframn> lol
[23:02] <rotham> hey.. where should I add exports (to add env variables) if I want them to be added everytime the system reboots?
[23:02] <benzrf> ok
[23:02] <benzrf> :|
[23:03] <TJ-> failmaster: Have you thought of using LUKS with GRUB to encrypt the boot too? I've been working on patches to that to enable key-files for GRUB
[23:04] <TJ-> On a totally unrelated note - anyone fancy fixing this sfdisk bug: "Warning: partition 5 is not contained in partition 5" !?
[23:04] <failmaster> TJ-, nah, mostly because i chose the way of my behavior via 100% destruction of the media and inability to provide the keyfile atm when someone will be trying to beat it out from me
[23:05] <TJ-> failmaster: I'd quite like LUKS to support a 999 key slot, that when used, would destroy the content of the encrypted volume
[23:06] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Could you please pastebin the full output from sfdisk as well as the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -lu"?
[23:06] <TJ-> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/wvf4HHGx
[23:06] <failmaster> TJ-, the backup of the keyfile is stored in a very exotic form of media which requires having rare equipment which costs enough and hard to get enough fast, key file in there is not in it's end form and there is a person who responsible to judge if i'm under pressure or not to give the backup away to me
[23:07] <rotham> hey.. to add vars to my environment should i just add them to /etc/environment or is there a better way?
[23:08] <wget> Hi guys. I would like to know if Ubuntu automatically remove previous unused kernels and initramfs after a kernel upgrade?
[23:08] <failmaster> TJ-, so that's why i am so annoying in here with that question, i never liked the idea of having 3rd party helper so it was a bless for me when i got rid of it on 12.04
[23:08] <wget> *removes
[23:09] <TJ-> Jordan_U: The issue I'm dealing with is the recovery of a hardware-damaged 500GB SATA drive. Used ddrescue and recovered ~450GB of it to a clone 1TB drive. The image has 4 primary partitions, so the 1TB right now cannot be allocated beyond 500GB. I need to re-write MBR's P.T. #4 as an extended partition, then move the values from #4 into the first logical partition. I've got sfdisk to allow me to do that with various over-ride switches, but then it hits this weird
[23:09] <TJ->  bug! I'm reading the source code, in partition_ok(), and can't see how it's figuring out that the logical partition is its own parent E.P. !
[23:09] <us0r> hey, is iptables -A
[23:09] <us0r> sorry, wrong channel
[23:10] <failmaster> wget, nope it doesn't as far as i know
[23:11] <failmaster> wget, and it's great mostly because you can fall back to previous ones in case something was broken
[23:11] <Kratisto78> usr13: you still there?
[23:11] <wget> failmaster: So after an upgrade from let's say 13.04 to 13.10 then 14.04, I could have a bunch of unused kernels (and not counting the ones from security updates). What a mess is that for a Linux distribution...
[23:11] <Wulframn> wget: Even if it does not, the kernels are not very large and cleanup is not very difficult.
[23:12] <failmaster> wget, well, if you don't like it, you can manage to deal with it using regexps to remove all kernels older than current version-1
[23:12] <wget> Wulframn: I know that, I'm quite accustomed to use GNU Linux distribution, but am looking for a newbie distribution for totally noob users.
[23:12] <Vivekananda> histo: I already went that route and tried to look for the driver. But I did not get the driver and also I found that for my printer there is a driver.deb present on the site so I used this to downloadd and install it -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[23:12] <wget> *distributions
[23:12] <failmaster> wget, to make it work automatically you can set it up into some custom hook
[23:12] <Kratisto78> If anyone can help usr13 was helping me before.  I have a lenovo s400 laptop and I just used a usb to install ubuntu.  I attempted to reboot after the install and now it goes right to a black screen.  Nothing happens.  I tried the button that boots right into bios and still nothing.
[23:13] <Wulframn> wget: Why would a newbie need to cleanup old kernels? By the time they, feasibly, would "need" to they would know how.
[23:13] <failmaster> so during updates it will check the *garbage* stuff
[23:13] <Jordan_U> TJ-: It might be easier to just use gdisk and convert it to GPT.
[23:13] <usr13> Kratisto78: On the phone...
[23:14] <haydenhm> Does anyone here know how to make a grage band file a .wav???
[23:14] <Kratisto78> usr13: Okay
[23:14] <usr13> !nomodeset | Kratisto78
[23:14] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Could you please paste the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -lu"?
[23:14] <hphhh> CAn somebody help ?? about my  wireless lan
[23:14] <Wulframn> !ask | hphhh
[23:14] <wget> Wulframn: Because after time it's machine will contain a bunch of unused kernels and different kernel version might appear in their bootloader menu which may frighten them ;-) (I wanted an automatic cleaning tool, but solution from failmaster to add a hook sounds great.)
[23:15] <Kratisto78> usr13: thats what we did before but now I literally can't do anything.  When I hit the button that took me to bios before it loads right into a blank screen.  I literally see nothing not even bios
[23:15] <wget> failmaster: Wulframn: Do you have any mkinitcpio tool on Ubuntu too (sorry I'm actually an ArchLinux user for now)
[23:15] <usr13> hphhh: Yea
[23:15] <haydenhm> Does anyone here know how to make a grage band file a .wav???
[23:15] <Wulframn> wget: Ubuntu automatically handles updating grub.cfg to reflect the newest kernel, without directing them to use an older kernel.
[23:15] <hphhh> I not really expert on ubuntu and i want active my wireless lan  i have lenovo z570
[23:15] <failmaster> wget, i suggest you to deal with it manually until you have limited space on /boot device
[23:16] <failmaster> wget, it would be better to leave them, believe me =)
[23:16] <usr13> Kratisto78: Hold shift key, (after post).
[23:16] <Wulframn> wget: I'm actually a Gentoo user and I don't have an Ubuntu right in front of me as my virtualbox is down. =P
[23:16] <Jordan_U> wget: Recent versions of Ubuntu keep older kernels in a separate "Advanced" submenu in the grub menu, so they won't scare users (or clutter the main menu).
[23:16] <wget> Jordan_U: Thanks for the info.
[23:16] <Jordan_U> wget: You're welcome.
[23:16] <Wulframn> wget: ^ what failmaster said. It is better to leave old kernels you know works in case you ever need to use one
[23:16] <haydenhm> Does anyone here know how to make a grage band file a .wav??? PM me if you do.
[23:17] <Jordan_U> !pm | haydenhm
[23:17] <Kratisto78> usr13: I turned it on and held shift and nothing happened.  I don't know how long I have to do that but nothing was happening
[23:17] <hphhh> hummmm.......  i tried rfkill list
[23:17] <th0r> Haydenhm: sox maybe?
[23:17] <hphhh> but it isn't run
[23:17] <haydenhm> ???
[23:17] <k1l_> hphhh: with sudo?
[23:18] <failmaster> wget, that shouldn't be a problem until the space on /boot device is very limited, in that case dig in a way of getting custom hook which would be called in a cozy way to get rid of *garbage* but define garbage carefully
[23:18] <hphhh> yes   , too
[23:18] <hphhh> my ph0 : hard : blocked
[23:18] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I'm reading up on gdisk, but so far not found any confirmation it can change an in-situ fully populated MBR to GPT without affecting the already-configured partitions or the file-systems within them
[23:18] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Would you happen to know if it can be done?
[23:19] <k1l_> hphhh: make sure there is no switch turned off
[23:19] <Jordan_U> haydenhm: There probably isn't a simple tool to make a garage band project into an audio file (other than garage band itself), as it's not an audio file itself. It's a little like the difference between a word document and a jpeg rendering of that document. A Garage band project is not an audio file, it's a project (though if you're lucky it may be a directory containing among other things a pre-rendered cache of the music).
[23:19] <robin0800> Kratisto78: hope this is not the problem http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Protection-against-Samsung-UEFI-bug-merged-into-Linux-kernel-1795332.html
[23:19] <k1l_> hphhh: or some fn-shortcut
[23:19] <hphhh> my switch is on
[23:19] <usr13> Kratisto78: Holding down the Shift key should give you the grub screen.
[23:19] <hphhh> bth is active too
[23:19] <Jordan_U> TJ-: It definitely can be done, I've done it many times.
[23:19] <hphhh> i tried  but nothing
[23:19] <Kratisto78> usr13: I pressed power and held in shift for around a minute and nothing
[23:20] <hphhh> fn-sh
[23:20] <haydenhm> good bye
[23:20] <Jordan_U> TJ-: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html
[23:20] <usr13> Kratisto78: You have to do it right after post
[23:20] <Kratisto78> robin0800: you think that could have happened
[23:20] <Kratisto78> usr13: by post do you mean hitting the power button?? and if so I am doing it like as fast as possible
[23:20] <TJ-> Jordan_U: OK, I found more info http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html
[23:21] <hphhh> well
[23:21] <robin0800> Kratisto78: the article mentions lenvio laptops too
[23:21] <hphhh>  i will reinstall all
[23:22] <hphhh> one question ?  Why my battery waste a lot of  power???
[23:22] <kubunto> hello
[23:22] <wget> Wulframn: I'll leave these kernel as-it.   My guess is I probably will not be able to return this either then will I
[23:23] <wget> failmaster: Are you a initramfs expert?
[23:23] <hphhh> one question ?  Why my battery waste a lot of  power???   I have  a nvidia GPu with cuda
[23:23] <Wulframn> wget: That's good. Leave them to maintain it (but provide assistance when asked) so they'll learn.
[23:23] <failmaster> wget, no, please, be careful listening to me :D
[23:24] <kubunto> i need some help
[23:24] <kubunto> anyone avalible to help out
[23:25] <Kratisto78> robin0800: I am kind of freaking out now since I literally just purchased this and based on what I'm looking at that seems like what happens
[23:25] <wget> failmaster: Ahah ;-) (It was related to dmraid, if you want to know. The latter detects the array not the partition, need to write a hook that does a 'partprobe' to prevent the kernel that new partitions are available, those from the raid).
[23:25] <wget> failmaster: (I was rewriting the RAID documentation from the ArchLinux wiki)
[23:26] <wget> *I'm
[23:26] <failmaster> guys, where can i read about booting system over grub 2 related to sequience in details, mostly about how it get gets us into initd image and how control being passed through stages of boot? please, sorry for my retarded english
[23:26] <kubunto> hello?
[23:26] <kubunto> can i get some help
[23:26] <bekks> kubunto: How about stating your actual problem?
[23:27] <kubunto> bekks: I cannot download packages, instead this is what my terminal gives me, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979134/
[23:28] <usr13> kubunto: sudo apt-get update
[23:28] <failmaster> wget, oh, got it, but i'm kinda noob when it comes to complicated raid/lvm/stuff i prefer to avoid increasing storage device configuration complexity if it's not *must be*
[23:29] <kubunto> usr13: fails as well, similar fashion to installing
[23:29] <usr13> kubunto: sudo apt-get update |pastebinit
[23:29] <Kratisto78> Anyone have any advice.  Attempted to install ubuntu on lenovo s400 and now nothing happens on boot not even bios
[23:30] <usr13> !uefi | Kratisto78
[23:30] <failmaster> guys, where can i read about booting system over grub 2 related to detailed sequence, mostly about how it gets us into initrd image and how control being passed through stages of boot? please, sorry for my retarded english
[23:30] <Kratisto78> usr13: I just looked at that I didn't see anything to do now after installing
[23:30] <Wulframn> failmaster: Ever consider reading grub's source code?
[23:31] <kubunto> usr13: here is the output of update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979156/
[23:31] <checoimg> Hi everyone
[23:31] <checoimg> I'm trying this command : ls | unzip
[23:31] <checoimg> BUt it doesn't unzip all files
[23:32] <Kratisto78> usr13: I didn't convert ubuntu into legacy mode.  When we were talking about it I thought I just had to hit install
[23:32] <checoimg> What am I missing ?
[23:32] <bekks> checoimg: Because thats a wrong command.
[23:32] <failmaster> Wulframn, not good enough talking about skills which will allow me to get this puzzle into solid picture :D
[23:33] <bekks> checoimg: for i in *.zip; do unzip $i; done
[23:33] <Kratisto78> usr13: Sorry man I'm freaking out.  I'm super paranoid that I just lost 300$
[23:33] <Wulframn> Lost 300$?
[23:33] <checoimg> bekks : Thank you! :)
[23:34] <usr13> kubunto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220
[23:34] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: I just bought this laptop and installed ubuntu now nothing happens at all on boot.   Just a black screen?
[23:35] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Yes.  Even if I press the button that used to boot into bios nothing happens.  It turns on to a black screen
[23:35] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: no prduct splash screen or anything?
[23:35] <Kratisto78> Absolutely nothing
[23:35] <Wulframn> Can you see the monitor's backlight come on?
[23:35] <Wulframn> Go into a really dark room if you have to.
[23:37] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Nothing.  Only the power button stays lit and two lights on the outside like the power indicator lights
[23:37] <Wulframn> Monitor's dead
[23:37] <Kratisto78> what does that mean
[23:37] <Wulframn> Or it's connection to the motherboard is dead.
[23:37] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: how new is the computer?
[23:37] <checoimg> bekks : And what about : unzip *.zip
[23:38] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Brand new.  I literally got it a few days ago and just installed ubuntu and rebooted.  usr13 helped me install ubuntu
[23:38] <us0r> hello all, is  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT  the correct terminal command to open port 80?
[23:38] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: take it into the store and show them that the monitor is dead.  Tell them it just went black during normal use (which is probably did) and have them check the hardware connections, etc.
[23:39] <checoimg> afk
[23:39] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: I bought it online and received it a few days ago.  I got it from the lenovo outlet
[23:39] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: hang on
[23:40] <Wulframn> Wow, lenovo? Never had one of those die. I only have lenovos in my house... =P
[23:40] <Kratisto78> Wulframn:  I'm just worried my install bricked it
[23:40] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: Are you in the usa?
[23:40] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Yes
[23:40] <kubunto> usr13: no dice
[23:40] <kubunto> usr13: still blowing up after 98% package list read
[23:41] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: Ubuntu + Lenovo get along famously. I am 99.9% certain you did not brick it.
[23:41] <Kratisto78> Wulframn:  It has uefi mode.  I enabled legacy mode.  In grub I added nomodeset because it was booting into black screen.  that worked then I installed ubuntu rebooted and now this.  Can't get to bios nothing.
[23:42] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/ - try warranty and services OR contacting them directly (I recommend this one) as they are really quite nice to deal with.
[23:42] <hphhh> help!!  I installed Ubuntu but i need some application in win 7  , I use  a lenovo 570  and My recoveries Disks said that There arent't structures of factory
[23:42] <hphhh> CAn anybody help me
[23:42] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: do you have your live cd or usb?
[23:42] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Thanks for giving me a little hope.  Do I tell t hem about ubuntu and I used a usb
[23:42] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: could you boot it up into the live environment provided on the usb before this issue?
[23:42] <Wulframn> !ask | hphhh
[23:43] <Wulframn> Oops, I see your question, hphhh - my bad
[23:43] <robin0800> Kratisto78: see this http://www.pcworld.com/article/2026807/booting-linux-via-uefi-can-brick-some-samsung-laptops.html
[23:43] <blz> hphhh, I'm not sure I understand your question
[23:43] <blz> hphhh, could you rephrase it or be a bit clearer, please?
[23:43] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: I struggled with it for days but I put it in legacy mode and when I added nomodeset it got into the live and I installed from there
[23:43] <Wulframn> blz: apparently they want some application from win7 that was not on their factory recovery cd
[23:44] <blz> Wulframn, I'm wondering if his problem isn't that he overwrote the recovery partition that some manufacturers include
[23:44] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: See what robin0800 just said.  This is what I'm worried about
[23:44] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: please attempt to boot into the live usb environment. Just see if you can even get *anything* on the monitor.   Perhaps there's a suitable alternative that runs under Ubuntu.  Or perhaps we can get your applciation running in wine
[23:45] <nonamehero> !patience
[23:45] <blz> Wulframn, with you all the way.  That's about half of the reason I ditched windows
[23:45] <Kratisto78> robin0800:  Do you think this is what happened?
[23:45] <kubunto> usr13, That thread you gave me was absoulutely no help
[23:46] <kubunto> no change at all
[23:46] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: In my opinion your only option is to contact Lenovo and ask for inspection and repair/replacement.
[23:46] <hphhh> ok , I erase all my HD  , then I installed Ubuntu  , Finally I wanna get back to win 7
[23:46] <hphhh> I use a lenovo z570 with nvidia driver
[23:46] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Have you removed the battery pack for a minute or so before trying to boot it to a LiveCD/USB ?
[23:46] <robin0800> Kratisto78: only if all it mentions applies to you
[23:46] <Wulframn> blz: As soon as i get a new computer out of the box i've got a SysRescCD in it looking to play with installing gentoo or something =P
[23:46] <blz> hphhh, yeah it sounds like you erased the recovery partition
[23:47] <blz> hphhh, I take it you don't have a window's installation CD?
[23:47] <Kratisto78> Tj-: Yes I have
[23:47] <Wulframn> hphhh: Which win7 app are you looking for?
[23:47] <dr_willis> always make a dvd restore set on a new pc..   ;-)
[23:47] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Is there any sign of flicker from the screen at all, from the second power is applied?
[23:47] <hphhh> I have 2 disks of recovery but in the installations said that they didn't find the estructures of factory
[23:47] <blz> hphhh, usually your windows key is printed somewhere on the back of your computer case.  If that's the case, than I would just download an installation CD from somewhere and reinstall with that.  You'll be promted to enter your key and all will be dandy
[23:48] <hphhh> gameesssssssssssssssssssssss
[23:48] <blz> hphhh, yeah recovery CDs are not the same as installation cds =/
[23:48] <Kratisto78> TJ-: Nothing. I already went into a dark room.  Only that power button and the two little status things at the bottom light up
[23:49] <kubunto> I cannot completely download any packages either from install or update. I need help to update my machine
[23:49] <hphhh> I Erase the FActory partition and oem  and my Cd's are unsuals
[23:49] <Jordan_U> hphhh: For help installing Windows try ##windows.
[23:49] <blz> hphhh, do as I suggested previously
[23:49] <hphhh> ok  thansk
[23:49] <blz> hphhh, see if you have a windows key printed on your case somewhere
[23:49] <x5ives> I selected to check my lubuntu disc for defects and it's just been sitting on the loading splash screen for ages.
[23:49] <blz> hphhh, if so, you should be able to download an installation CD
[23:50] <TheLegace> hi im trying to figure out why im getting this error
[23:50] <clj_newb_2345> on ubuntu 13.04, is there a way to tell ubuntu "here, take this file, run it on startup as the firewall rules?" (i.e. I have a list of iptables rules, I want them run -- they're slghtly more complicated than ufw since I need to allow port forwarding to handle docker containers)
[23:50] <TJ-> Kratisto78: the 2 indicator LEDs are power-status (left) and battery-status(right). Are they both on solid without flashing?
[23:50] <TheLegace> ERROR:phablet-flash:Command 'adb reboot bootloader' returned non-zero exit status 1
[23:50] <TheLegace> im trying to install ubuntu touch on my nexus 4
[23:50] <us0r> just out of curiosity, can anyone see me? not sure if no ones talkd to me since i started coming here cause of an error i made or becuase they dont care to answer. im not offended or anything, jus wondering if i have an issue with my settings for this channel that i need to fix
[23:50] <Kratisto78> TJ-: Yes thats it and no screen flicker or anything
[23:50] <failmaster> TJ-, so if it's correct conclusion that we have /boot mounted according to 11.2 from http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Filesystem
[23:50] <Jordan_U> us0r: We can see you.
[23:50] <x5ives> us0r: Yes.
[23:51] <us0r> k thx ^_^
[23:51] <TJ-> Kratisto78: And, if you hold down the power button for 4 seconds or more, does the power-status LED turn off?
[23:51] <Kratisto78> TJ-: Yeah it turns back off
[23:51] <kubunto> usr13: are you still here
[23:51] <TJ-> Kratisto78: OK... working my way through the service manual :p
[23:52] <hphhh> why my lenovo z570 can't install ubuntu SO amd64bits ???
[23:52] <budmang> us0r: whats ur issue?
[23:52] <budmang> hphhh: why? you tell us? whats the error?
[23:52] <kubunto> can someone help me out with my packages problem
[23:52] <blz> !ask|kubunto
[23:52] <usr13> kubunto: Yes?
[23:52] <kubunto> usr13: your link was a fail
[23:53] <us0r> budmang: my question was - is  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT  the correct terminal command to open port 80? thanks
[23:53] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Have you tried getting into the Quick Start system? Holding down Fn+F3 (if hotkey mode is enabled) or just F3 when it isn't?
[23:53] <kubunto> it changed absolutely nothing
[23:53] <budmang> looks good us0r why not? are you getting an error? is it not working?
[23:53] <Kratisto78> TJ-: TO get into bios it was f2 before.  I'll try and do the f3
[23:53] <usr13> kubunto: Show me the link
[23:53] <failmaster> Kratisto78, not "del" key?
[23:54] <us0r> budmang: no its not working. when i input it it jus opens a new blank line and when i check the port its still closed
[23:54] <kubunto> usr13: this is what you gave me, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220
[23:54] <usr13> kubunto: changed nothing?
[23:54] <hphhh> The screen set " the product is protected with patents<PHONE_NUMBER>4..........." something like it
[23:54] <Kratisto78> failmaster: Nope.  I'm justing a lenovo s400 and f2 worked before
[23:54] <failmaster> Kratisto78, should be f2 then no matter what
[23:54] <hphhh> but never boot Linux
[23:54] <kubunto> usr13 as in it still crashed after 98%
[23:54] <budmang> us0r: iptables -L
[23:54] <nukleuz> budmang: was you the one that struggled with a server with RAID? ubuntu 12.04? problems after removing kernels?
[23:54] <MoPac> Hello. In 13.10 or future Mir releases, are there plans for an engine to remember window placement that is more sophisticated than the current compiz plugin, or should I still be spending time trying to configure devilspie and devilspie-based programs?
[23:54] <budmang> pastebin.com me the reply, or do you see port 80 accept in there?
[23:55] <failmaster> Kratisto78, just curious, if there is boot device selection dialog on f8 or f11 or f12, does it work?
[23:55] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Read the manual, pages 23 and then 28. See it at http://www.lenovo.com/shop/americas/content/user_guides/s300_ug_en.pdf
[23:55] <budmang> nukleuz: not after removing a kernel, just a fresh install on a hw raid
[23:55] <budmang> and MBR/booting.
[23:56] <usr13> kubunto: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198371/apt-encounters-errors-with-bad-gpg-keys
[23:56] <Kratisto78> To everyone about getting into bios.  I've tried f2 fn+f2 and there is a button on the side that goes directly into bios.  Nothing has worked and the screen backlight does not even turn on
[23:56] <TJ-> Kratisto78: and lastly, read page 32 "Troubleshooting" which has as its first entry "Display problems" :p
[23:56] <Psil0cybin> hey guys quick question as an ubuntu user, should i be using an AV to protect me against Linux malware
[23:56] <kubunto> usr13, it is not a key issue, I have never seen anything explode with key issues
[23:56] <Psil0cybin> ?
[23:56] <gr33n7007h>  us0r iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT should do it
[23:56] <Psil0cybin> I use rootkit hunter, but do i need anything else, do you guys recommend anything
[23:56] <nukleuz> Budmang: Hmm. Ok. I'm wondering what happened to my setup. Unfortunally is my server located in Germany, and I'm in Norway, so I cant see whats happening during the bootup; do you know if ther are some logs from the boot somewhere?
[23:57] <failmaster> Kratisto78, try hitting f12 if nothing pops-up and you're 100% sure that your lcd screen works, it's a bad news
[23:57] <us0r> budmang: no i dont see it in there. it maight take me a min to pastebin cause i'll have to hand copy it to this comp. the one with the problem doesnt have an internet connection
[23:57] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Is the laptop always connected to mains as well as having the battery, when you're testing it?
[23:57] <budmang> nukleuz: you need remote KVM or a hands on
[23:58] <TJ-> Kratisto78: I did notice the manual warns "don't fold the screen back beyond 130 degrees"
[23:58] <budmang> us0r: if you dont see if in the iptables -L
[23:58] <budmang> then its not accepting it, though if it just returns a new line, its accepting it so somewhere your misinformed.
[23:58] <kubunto> usr13: also my laptop as slowed to a crawl
[23:58] <Psil0cybin> guys would i use an AV or a malware hunter for my Ubuntu box?? or would just a rootkit hunter do?
[23:59] <Psil0cybin> what do you guys recommend/do for your selves?
[23:59] <Kratisto78> Oh my gosh I pressed f12 and grub popped up.  Maybe it was default on and it booted into it fine.  It must have had screen default to 0 brightness or something.  Hold on running aorund my house screaming like a girl
[23:59] <DrekAlots> are there any known issues with Unity and the Nvidia 304 drivers? I installed 13.04 on my system today and Unity has been crashing left and right. Starting to piss me off.
[23:59] <Kratisto78> failmaster-: I love you so muich
[23:59] <Wulframn> Psil0cybin: linux doesn't need any of that.
[23:59]  * TJ- laughs at a very relieved Kratisto78
[23:59] <us0r> budmang: thats what i figured. its def not listening on port 80 tho cause there is not http access whatsoever
[23:59] <blz> Psil0cybin, none of the above
[23:59] <Wulframn> CONGRATS Kratisto78 !
[23:59] <TJ-> display brightness = 0 [23:59] <bekks> DrekAlots: Which graphics hw do you have?
[23:59] <denysonique> How do I make Qt/KDE apps look like other GTK+ apps when running Unity?
[23:59] <DrekAlots> bekks: Nvidia 485M.