[05:40] <arcanistherogue> yeah, i cant wait for the new ubuntu
[05:40] <StyXman> Fleck: why not?
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> got my cds preordered (b'_')b
[05:40] <ericz> how do you preorder them
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> just order them from shipit
[05:40] <Fleck> shawnz well i like new software, in unstable debian (sid) i can get them, but they don't whant to help me if i use sid..., i whant to use new KDE etc... how about ubuntu?
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> like the 5.04 discs
[05:40] <arcanistherogue> they ship a week after they come out
[05:40] <snorks> !.tgz
[05:40] <ubotu> snorks: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:40] <Fleck> ooh and - i like to compile kernel by my self!
[05:40] <snorks> !tgz
[05:40] <ubotu> snorks: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:41] <shawnz> Fleck: nothings stopping you from setting up any distrobution how you like
[05:41] <ericz> so anything ordered recently will be breezy?
[05:41] <ericz> or what?
[05:41] <Fleck> shawnz sure but that doesn't answer my question! :)
[05:41] <tck> butcherbird, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2716
[05:42] <Belutz> Fleck, use gentoo
[05:42] <Fleck> Belutz i hate to compile everything ...
[05:42] <Belutz> i see
[05:42] <grayman> you can use their binary packages
[05:43] <Mars__^> I am trying to install it but it shows info that i am not permited to put game in there. Normally i could use root but what now?
[05:43] <Mars__^> ?
[05:43] <Mars__^> ok
[05:43] <Mars__^> It works
[05:43] <grayman> sudo?
[05:43] <shawnz> O.o
[05:43] <mkyb14> questoin, if i do a dual boot with XP pro and put the MBR on the linux HD ..... if i unplug the hd will windows boot up?  i accidently put the MBR on the windows HD and none of the grub removal commands worked!
[05:43] <procrastinationn> were is native
[05:44] <StyXman> ok, bailing out
[05:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mars__^ about root
[05:44] <butcherbird> tck: this a ethernet or wireless card?
[05:44] <shawnz> mkyb14, boot up to windows setup disk, go into recovery console, and do help
[05:44] <shawnz> i think the command is chkboot or something
[05:44] <mkyb14> questoin, if i do a dual boot with XP pro and put the MBR on the linux HD ..... if i unplug the hd will windows boot up?  i accidently put the MBR on the windows HD and none of the grub removal commands worked!
[05:44] <mkyb14> oh shit sorry
[05:44] <mkyb14> my window was at the top
[05:44] <shawnz> uh... and?
[05:45] <shawnz> just do what i said
[05:45] <shawnz> go into recovery console and run chkboot or whatever the command is. it installs the windows MBR
[05:45] <tck> butcherbird, pcmcia wireless card
[05:45] <mkyb14> yea i did all the fixboot and fixmbr commands and none worked
[05:45] <shawnz> O.o
[05:45] <butcherbird> tck: whats your wireless interface ath0?
[05:45] <mkyb14> so i wondered if installing grub on my second hd with linux would mess with the windows MBR
[05:45] <shawnz> unplug your linux drive and do them
[05:45] <tck> butcherbird, eth0
[05:46] <shawnz> tck: thats lan, not wireless, isnt it?
[05:46] <tck> thats the way it is picked up on mine
[05:46] <shawnz> and lol at ath0
[05:46] <butcherbird> shawnz: ;p
[05:46] <tck> the name can be anything regardless
[05:46] <tck> thats no the issue ;)
[05:46] <tck> s/no/not
[05:46] <procrastinationn> native
[05:46] <shawnz> /ctcp butcherbird ping +++ATH0 hax!
[05:47] <shawnz> but anyway
[05:47] <procrastinationn> why does my xbox not an ip
[05:47] <shawnz> why does this silly lynux thingy not want to go from lilo to grub?
[05:47] <shawnz> :p
[05:47] <DrZoot> does ubuntu/kubuntu support software suspend?
[05:48] <shawnz> DrZoot, its gnu/linux
[05:48] <shawnz> does gnu/linux support it? then ubuntu does.
[05:48] <DrZoot> shawnz: yeah, thanks for that ......
[05:48] <pulver> hi! anyone know how to send emoticons with amsn? possible? manually?
[05:48] <butcherbird> tck: not on breezy but kismet worked fine for me on hoary with orinoco silver card
[05:48] <shawnz> rofl
[05:49] <Toma-> pulver: yeh u can do it
[05:49] <DrZoot> so does anyone know if software suspend is included in the ubuntu kern
[05:49] <blargh> hi - anyone here had any experience installing Atheros drivers for a WLAN card?
[05:49] <tck> butcherbird, what steps did you take
[05:49] <shawnz> pulver: use gaim :p
[05:49] <ProN00b> is it normal that if i try to install a package it tries to remove ubuntu-base ?
[05:49] <Thor> lo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore
[05:49] <pulver> Toma-: how?
[05:49] <ProN00b> and what is ubuntu-base ?
[05:49] <shawnz> ProN00b: its not normal but it happens. and ubuntu-base is the base ubuntu installation
[05:49] <butcherbird> pretty much just uncommented- commented out one or two things in the config
[05:50] <shawnz> last time i tried to reinstall alsautils it removed ubuntu-base, then my system didnt boot
[05:50] <shawnz> :(
[05:50] <snorks> What do I do with a .tgz file?
[05:50] <pulver> shawnz: lol yeah gaim is nice but file transfer is slow
[05:50] <ProN00b> cool
[05:50] <tck> butcherbird, mine looks good doesn't it
[05:50] <Thor> lo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore
[05:50] <Vegar> snorks: delete it
[05:50] <tck> still need another patch i think
[05:50] <shawnz> snorks, ungzip it then untar it.
[05:50] <ProN00b> how do i install that package without removing ubuntu-base then ?
[05:50] <Vegar> snorks: use dpkg or apt to install programs
[05:50] <procrastinationn> lol duh just had to plug in the eithernet and reboot x
[05:50] <blargh> come on help a noob - someone's done it before
[05:50] <snorks> Vegar: funny.
[05:50] <shawnz> ProN00b: what package is it?
[05:50] <wilson22> hi, can someone tell me where to find the kernel .config for the kernel shipped with 5.04?
[05:51] <ProN00b> pftp, shawnz
[05:51] <snorks> shawnz: what's the ungzip flags_
[05:51] <shawnz> tar --help | grep gzip
[05:51] <aleitner> wilson22: do you have it installed?
[05:52] <Thor> lo all, can sum1 pls tell me y the GAIM messenger isnt workin anymore, is any using gaim @ the moment to talk to their msn m8s
[05:52] <butcherbird> tck: not on my ubuntu box right now or id take a look at it think i used a slighly different line for source
[05:52] <snorks> shawnz: tar -xzf cedega_4.4-1.i386.tgz for example?
[05:52] <shawnz> yes snorks.
[05:52] <wilson22> I have ubuntu 5.04 installed along with the sources
[05:52] <shawnz> z is gzip i assume?
[05:52] <blargh> Hey if I wanna know what kernel-headers are required...is this right?  "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep kernel-headers-uname -r"
[05:52] <wilson22> it's in boot eh?
[05:53] <Vegar> Thor: I think the MSN servers are having troubles.
[05:53] <aleitner> wilson22: look into /boot/
[05:53] <snorks> shawnz: yes
[05:53] <shawnz> then yes
[05:53] <snorks> shawnz: and after that I'm done, or?
[05:53] <butcherbird> tck: something like source=orinoco,interfacename,11
[05:53] <tck> ok
[05:53] <aleitner> wilson22: it is one of the config* files in there. to find out which one you are currently using run 'uname -a'
[05:53] <wilson22> aleitner: yeah I just found it :)
[05:53] <shawnz> snorks, then tar creates a cedega_4.4-1.i386 folder
[05:53] <wilson22> aleithner: thanks++
[05:53] <tck> that chanel you have at the end ?
[05:53] <aleitner> wilson22: np
[05:53] <Thor> Vegar: is ther another messenger client that i could use
[05:54] <snorks> shawnz: it just creaded a usr/ folder where i unpacked it
[05:54] <Vegar> Thor: No clients will work when the servers you connect to are down.
[05:54] <butcherbird> tck: i would think
[05:55] <cddesjar> how do i add Release.gpg keys in Ubuntu?
[05:55] <Thor> Vegar: but i switched OS and tried MSN messenger in windows and it worked, so that must mean servers aint down right
[05:55] <tck> nah don't think that's correct
[05:55] <ericz> msn isnt down
[05:55] <Vegar> Thor: try again with gaim
[05:55] <Vegar> I've been disconnected several times today
[05:55] <nalioth> msn has changed their access protocols...again
[05:55] <ericz> im using gaim [on ubuntu]  and ive been on msn for about an hour
[05:55] <Thor> Vegar:i have been trying since last night aint logging me in,
[05:55] <BERDUGO> hello
[05:56] <ProN00b> msn doesn't like gaim, install gaim from source
[05:56] <Thor> nalioth: i think ur right
[05:56] <Vegar> Thor: I just logged in with gaim.
[05:56] <BERDUGO> I was wondering if anyone can help me out
[05:56] <Plebeuz> nalioth,today?
[05:56] <cddesjar> i am trying to d/l w32codecs from a site but i need to get the release.gpg key
[05:56] <Plebeuz> nalioth, today?
[05:56] <fadumpt> hi, what's a good site find ubuntu breezy badger x64 repositories?
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cddesjar about w32codecs
[05:56] <BERDUGO> Ive been trying to connect to the internet but I cant find where to put the username and password for the adsl connection
[05:56] <nalioth> Plebeuz: yes today
[05:57] <Plebeuz> suxk
[05:57] <Plebeuz> sukx
[05:57] <fadumpt> or can someone tell me a repository they use for breezy x64
[05:57] <nalioth> cddesjar: stop bothering that site and read the PM ubotu sent
[05:57] <Thor> Vegar: if i download gaim latest version from source, will u help me install it pls
[05:57] <cddesjar> !ubotu tell cddesjar about w32codecs
[05:57] <cddesjar> the ubotu didn't send me a message
[05:57] <nalioth> ubotu is down again, dammit
[05:57] <ubotu> nalioth: No idea
[05:57] <procrastinationn> native you here?
[05:57] <Vegar> Thor: installing from source will only break your distro
[05:57] <nalioth> !test
[05:57] <ubotu> Passed.
[05:58] <Vegar> Thor: it's bad
[05:58] <fadumpt> HI!
[05:58] <BinaryDigit> hi!
[05:58] <BERDUGO> hello
[05:58] <BinaryDigit> :)
[05:58] <BERDUGO> can anyone please help me out with configuring my ADSL connectin
[05:58] <cddesjar> !w32codecs
[05:58] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy). 64-bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[05:58] <Plebeuz> Thor, download amsn
[05:58] <Thor> Vegar: ok, so is ther any other client i can try besides GAIM and Amsn
[05:58] <BERDUGO> i already tried sudo pppoeconf but nothing happened
[05:58] <Anak1n> srv>www>htdoc wher is it?
[05:58] <Sd3gn0> hi
[05:59] <Thor> Plebeuz: AMSN keeps crashing
[05:59] <Sd3gn0> i've a problem with my graphics card
[05:59] <Plebeuz> Thor, have u downloaded the tls?
[05:59] <grayman> welcome toi the club Sd3gn0
[05:59] <Sd3gn0> got this error when launch apps like blender
[05:59] <Sd3gn0> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[05:59] <Sd3gn0> thank you grayman :-)
[05:59] <Plebeuz> Thor, try to download latest version
[05:59] <blargh> anyone know about installing a WLAN card? Going to throw the damn thing out the window soon...
[05:59] <fadumpt> !ubotu tell fadumpt about repositories
[06:00] <BERDUGO> is your lancard liksys?
[06:00] <grayman> its not the graphic card
[06:00] <grayman> its glx
[06:00] <BERDUGO> is your lancard liksys?
[06:00] <blargh> Netgear
[06:00] <BERDUGO> hmmm
[06:00] <Sd3gn0> grayman,
[06:00] <Sd3gn0> what i've to do?!
[06:00] <fadumpt> thanks ubotu, you are the best!
[06:00] <r0d> is the amd64 chip considered k7?
[06:00] <fadumpt> k8 i think
[06:00] <blargh> Atheros chipset, madwifi drivers supposed to work using ndiswrapper
[06:00] <Plebeuz> blargh, u mean a lan over internet?
[06:00] <fadumpt> yeah K8
[06:00] <BERDUGO> it should be plug and play
[06:00] <r0d> thx
[06:00] <grayman> you need drivers with glx extention
[06:00] <fadumpt> K7 was all athlon XP stuff
[06:00] <grayman> what card you use?
[06:00] <fadumpt> and athlon
[06:00] <BERDUGO> I had problems with my linksys and thown it away
[06:00] <BERDUGO> cant find a driver anywhere
[06:00] <blargh> ehehe
[06:01] <Sd3gn0> grayman, i've got the drivers nvidia-glx
[06:01] <Sd3gn0> and i've the "glx" extension in
[06:01] <blargh> wireless lan card - it's a netgear W311t (atheros, not the TI)
[06:01] <Sd3gn0> xorg.conf
[06:01] <Thor> Plebeuz & Vegar: IT works now, dunno, how or y, been tryin since last night, but decided to work now
[06:01] <grayman> gmmmmm
[06:01] <grayman> hmmmm
[06:01] <r0d> in synaptic, there is k7-smp. whats that guys?
[06:01] <BERDUGO> blargh you know anything about how I can connect to my adls connection I already tried sudo pppoeconf but it doesnt work
[06:01] <dade`> my breezy does nott switch to console mode pressing ctrl+alt+F1, anyone knows why ?
[06:01] <Plebeuz> Thor, heheheh, maybe the server was down
[06:02] <Tomcat_> r0d: AMD multiprocessor kernel
[06:02] <blargh> BERDUGO: sorry man only been using Linux for a day - my router handles my adsl ;)
[06:02] <Thor> Plebeuz: very likely, or i made some n00b mistake soomwher
[06:02] <Thor> lol
[06:02] <r0d> i c. thx Tomcat
[06:02] <nalioth> r0d: it is for dual proc amd boxes (non 64-bit)
[06:02] <Plebeuz> heheheheh
[06:02] <BERDUGO> hehehe
[06:02] <BERDUGO> thanks
[06:02] <rockin_stan> ./nickserv register
[06:02] <BERDUGO> no prob blargh
[06:03] <tck> whats the comman to update orinoco with cvs
[06:03] <tck> any cvs peeps in here ?
[06:03] <BERDUGO> so any others here kind enough to lend us a helping hand?
[06:03] <Thor> Plebeuz & Vegar: thanks forr help ;)
[06:03] <grayman> Sd3gn0, tried to restart X after installing?
[06:03] <dade`> m
[06:03] <dade`> non
[06:03] <dade`> none
[06:03] <Plebeuz> :P kk
[06:04] <dade`> i try again
[06:04] <BERDUGO> anyone know anything about how I can connect to my adsl connection I already tried sudo pppoeconf but it doesnt work
[06:04] <Plebeuz> in slackware i know how to install the wireless card hehehe
[06:04] <Sd3gn0> grayman, yes sure
[06:04] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, i know
[06:04] <grayman> hmmm
[06:04] <BERDUGO> can you help me out Plebeuz
[06:04] <BERDUGO> please
[06:05] <BERDUGO> its already 12:05AM here and im running out of options
[06:05] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, vi /etc/networking/interfaces
[06:05] <BERDUGO> hehehe
[06:05] <BERDUGO> ok
[06:05] <grayman> hrm. i also had that glx voodoo when used nvidia
[06:05] <BERDUGO> so I have to edit the interfaces?
[06:05] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, then config the iface eth0
[06:05] <grayman> but i had xfree
[06:05] <BERDUGO> ok then?
[06:06] <Sd3gn0> mmm
[06:06] <blargh> Slackware eh...
[06:06] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, u trying to config ur lan to connect whith the adsl?
[06:06] <Plebeuz> eh
[06:06] <BERDUGO> nopr
[06:06] <BERDUGO> Im trying to get my connection up
[06:07] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, how u are connected hier?
[06:07] <BERDUGO> coz everytime i use sudo pppoeconf it doesnt ask me for the username or password
[06:07] <blargh> Damn I feel so stupid
[06:07] <BERDUGO> it just gives me an error
[06:07] <BERDUGO> im using a different PC
[06:07] <Plebeuz> ok do that
[06:07] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, u are using windows?
[06:08] <BERDUGO> now? unfortunately yes
[06:08] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, go in start, run then cmd
[06:08] <BERDUGO> ok
[06:08] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, inside cmd write ipconfig
[06:08] <BERDUGO> no wait I want to dial up using UBUNTU
[06:08] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, ooo kkk
[06:08] <BERDUGO> i had ubuntu installed on the other PC the one I just built
[06:09] <BERDUGO> sorry for the trouble
[06:09] <Sd3gn0> grayman, don't know?
[06:09] <shawnz> BERDUGO, what error did you get when running pppoeconf
[06:09] <BERDUGO> so what do you reckon?
[06:09] <grayman> cant remember how i fixed it. sorry
[06:09] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, do that, use ppp program in network
[06:09] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, aplications, network ppp
[06:09] <BERDUGO> how?
[06:09] <BERDUGO> ok wait let me check
[06:09] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, then config eth0 for dial
[06:10] <BERDUGO> ok how do I configure eth0 for dial?
[06:10] <grayman> you need to make xorg use only nvidia glx
[06:10] <Plebeuz> where u select the modem, u put the eth
[06:10] <Sd3gn0> grayman, no problem
[06:10] <Sd3gn0> :-)
[06:10] <Plebeuz> then just dial with the user and pass
[06:10] <Sd3gn0> thank you!
[06:10] <bam_> anyone know how to stop the drive icons from "poping" up on my desktop
[06:11] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me about: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:11] <BERDUGO> Plebeuz I tried clicking applications but there is nothing there that says network or ppp
[06:11] <blargh> BERDUGO: have you got pppoeconf enabled in Synaptics?
[06:12] <BERDUGO> yes I did
[06:12] <blargh> hm
[06:12] <BERDUGO> dpkg -l | grep -i pppoe
[06:12] <BERDUGO> sudo apt-get install pppoeconf
[06:12] <blargh> and it's installed?
[06:12] <shawnz> what error do you get when you run ppoeconf.
[06:13] <snorks> anyone using cedega here? I get CRAP performance, and I should probably edit some config file, but I don't know where that is
[06:13] <BERDUGO> error: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process
[06:13] <BERDUGO> which controls the modem
[06:14] <LaserLine> OT - Anyone here ever able to use blueetooth and a reguler printer, via a blutooth printing adapter such as EPoX ?
[06:14] <ericz> anyone ever use kannel?
[06:14] <Kyral> snorks, I use Point2Play in addition to Cedega
[06:15] <Stricklin> Any idea why my screen turns to graphics garbage after using the computer for a while?
[06:15] <Plebeuz> BERDUGO, u can use the windows as ur gateway
[06:15] <CarlFK> what is the requirments for /pvt ?  still need to be registered?
[06:15] <snorks> Kyral: wanna send it over? :)
[06:16] <Kyral> Nope, you have to pay for Point2Play :P
[06:16] <BERDUGO> im using two different internet connections and Im trying to get ubuntu to run the other one
[06:16] <grayman> aaaaaah
[06:16] <Kyral> Meaning you need my username and pass :P
[06:16] <BERDUGO> you told me to set eth0 to dial how do I do that
[06:17] <Sd3gn0> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:17] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me?
[06:17] <x_madbot> there is a slmodem driver for breezy ?
[06:18] <haller> does someone know how to get a pinnacle pctv 50i tv-card working? i think it has a  saa7133 chipset. i am using breezy, tried tvtime and zapping but get no picture.
[06:18] <signbarn> i just did a clean install of breezy (colony 5) on an old laptop i have, and it went great. after the updates, however, the trackpad movement is _way_ too accelerated. where is the config file for the mouse movement?
[06:18] <Secreth`X> u/msg ubotu split
[06:18] <signbarn> (the mouse settings from the system > preferences menu do nothing)
[06:18] <Secreth`X> darn
[06:19] <BERDUGO> ran out of ideas?
[06:19] <blargh> BERDUGO: http://www.debianhelp.org/index.php?module=pnForum&func=viewtopic&topic=9479&start=0
[06:19] <blargh> might help...I dunno
[06:19] <BERDUGO> thanks blargh
[06:19] <BERDUGO> thanks Plebeuz
[06:19] <shawnz> sigh
[06:19] <shawnz> BERDUGO, what error did you get when running pppoeconf!
[06:20] <blargh> he already posted it
[06:20] <shawnz> pft
[06:20] <shawnz> :(
[06:20] <BERDUGO> error: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process
[06:20] <BERDUGO> error: SOrry I scanned one interface, but the access concentrator of your provider did not respond pls check your network and modem cables another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process
[06:20] <BERDUGO> shawnz that is what I got
[06:20] <shawnz> then... do what blargh said
[06:20] <shawnz> =p
[06:20] <toni_> hello. i just installed the breezy preview release and it's working fine. i'm wondering if this can be upgraded to release version when it's out? or should i wait 2 weeks and do a fresh install?
[06:20] <blargh> ahaha
[06:20] <BERDUGO> ok h
[06:20] <BERDUGO> hehehehe
[06:20] <CarlFK> yipee!
[06:21] <blargh> now someone help me goddamn it
[06:21] <BERDUGO> is your problem thw wireless?
[06:21] <zth> hey, i've got some serious problems and i need help! i just upgraded to breezy from hoary using the sample sources.list file and dist-upgrade. Now I have some serious problems, X wont start! It complains about: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found... PLEASE HELP ME!
[06:21] <blargh> yeah...just this line: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep kernel-headers-uname -r
[06:21] <BERDUGO> upto now I still couldnt get mine running I ended up throwing away my WUSB11
[06:21] <haller> toni_,  i think you can upgrade to the release version
[06:21] <Sd3gn0> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:22] <blargh> supposed to report back kernel-headers  or something
[06:22] <blargh> but it does nothing
[06:22] <HiddenFly> i have a fat drive that i can read but i cannot write to. how can i write on it? heres the line from fstab: /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010008.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010007.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010006.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010005.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010004.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010003.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010002.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> /media/NO NAME/dcim/100olymp/p1010001.jpg
[06:22] <HiddenFly> *it
[06:22] <HiddenFly> sry
[06:23] <HiddenFly> /dev/sda5 /media/10\040GB\040Disk\040(sda5) vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[06:23] <HiddenFly> thats is
[06:24] <SpudDogg> Seveas, do you know what I need to type in the terminal to see my computer's local IP?
[06:25] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me about this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:25] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know what I need to type in the terminal to see my computer's local IP?
[06:25] <Myrtti> ifconfig
[06:25] <nightswim> ifconfig
[06:25] <nightswim> or
[06:25] <bzimage> ifconfig
[06:25] <nightswim> ip addr show dev eth0
[06:25] <SpudDogg> ahh thanks
[06:26] <clast> ifconfig ^^
[06:26] <offby3> hola -- can anyone here tell me how to change the priority of kernel module loading?
[06:26] <bzimage> and for windows.. ipconfig or winipcfg
[06:26] <bzimage> :P
[06:26] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me about this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[06:26] <offby3> I'm loading the wrong version of the fglrx.ko (from video) where the one I want is in char/drm
[06:26] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, well edit your xorg.conf accordingly
[06:27] <bzimage> hash the glx module
[06:27] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, yes
[06:27] <bzimage> or install the proper video drivers
[06:27] <Sd3gn0> my xorg.conf
[06:27] <Sd3gn0> have the right glx
[06:27] <offby3> (for the record, this in on Hoary)
[06:27] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, wich video card
[06:27] <bzimage> ?
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> and (think) i've installed the proper
[06:28] <bzimage> (ati? nvidia?)
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> driver
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, nvidia 5200
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:28] <Sd3gn0> right?
[06:28] <zth> hey, i've got some serious problems and i need help! i just upgraded to breezy from hoary using the sample sources.list file and dist-upgrade. Now I have some serious problems, X wont start! It complains about: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found... PLEASE HELP ME! No one?!
[06:28] <bzimage> ehm..
[06:28] <bzimage> right
[06:28] <bzimage> but you also need the driver itself
[06:28] <bzimage> :)
[06:29] <Sd3gn0> ???
[06:29] <Sd3gn0> like?
[06:29] <blargh> www.nvidia.com
[06:29] <bzimage> !nvidia
[06:29] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:29] <bzimage> there
[06:29] <offby3> bzimage, you seem to know your stuff -- can you lend me a hand?
[06:30] <Plebeuz> hello
[06:30] <bzimage> well... ask away
[06:30] <bzimage> :)
[06:30] <Sd3gn0> guys
[06:30] <Sd3gn0> i've installed the driver
[06:30] <bzimage> maybe i or someone can help you
[06:30] <Sd3gn0> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[06:30] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, did you looked at the xorg log?
[06:30] <offby3> See above: Right now, my ATI kernel module is installed in char/drm, but the old (8.8.5) module is in video
[06:30] <bzimage> about what's wrong?
[06:31] <offby3> The latter gets loaded when fglrx is specified in /etc/modules
[06:31] <offby3> how can I force the correct one to load?
[06:31] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, i see
[06:31] <Sd3gn0> :-)
[06:32] <Plebeuz> anyone know how i can configure the x server to accept login as root? see that for log as root i neet to remove the .X0tmp (or something, log in console then startx, cause the xserver who starts when boot ubuntu does not accept root login
[06:32] <Sd3gn0> perhaps
[06:32] <bzimage> offby3, ehm.. i'm not using ati
[06:32] <bzimage> so no idea
[06:32] <bzimage> :(
[06:32] <Sd3gn0> i've made all the same things
[06:32] <Sd3gn0> in
[06:32] <offby3> I don't think this is ATI-specific
[06:32] <Sd3gn0> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:32] <Plebeuz> anyone know how i can configure the x server to accept login as root? see that for log as root i need to remove the .X0tmp (or something) log in console then startx, cause the xserver who starts when boot ubuntu does not accept root login
[06:32] <offby3> I believe it's just a modprobe/modules issue, I just don't know how to set the load order
[06:33] <offby3> Plebeuz, it's generally considered rude to repeat long questions.  Oh, and no, I don't -- sorry.
[06:33] <butcherbird> Plebeuz: gdmconfig
[06:33] <Plebeuz> i have writed wrong
[06:33] <bzimage> Plebeuz, use the gdm configuration tool
[06:33] <butcherbird> Plebeuz: sorry didnt read all the question nm
[06:33] <Plebeuz> tkz
[06:34] <blargh> noone's used ndiswrapper here??
[06:34] <bzimage> Plebeuz, but why do you want to enable this?
[06:34] <kennethlove> here's a strange question. in hoary's gnome, there was a setting to make windows snap to screen/window edges. i can't find it in breezy's. any idea?
[06:34] <Plebeuz> bzimage, cause i use linux with root always
[06:35] <Plebeuz> bzimage, i am logged as root now for example
[06:35] <bzimage> Plebeuz, hmm.. ok... (not wise)
[06:35] <BERDUGO> Thanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you
[06:35] <BERDUGO> Thanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you
[06:35] <BERDUGO> Thanks for the help guys (even if i didnt get my connection running) I need to sleep best regards to all of you
[06:35] <afd_> hi! Anybody has experience with xcompmgr? When I maximize a window it covers the top and bottom panels. Any solutions?
[06:36] <Plebeuz> bzimage, i like the adrenaline like for a mistake i execute rm -rf /
[06:36] <bzimage> Plebeuz, i only go root if needed...
[06:36] <Plebeuz> bzimage, heheheh
[06:36] <bzimage> Plebeuz, ok.. :)
[06:36] <bzimage> i used to do that too
[06:36] <Plebeuz> bzimage, i like to cause and solve troubles on linux
[06:36] <bzimage> trail and error things.. (as root)
[06:36] <Myrtti> wtf, always as ROOT? that's insane
[06:36] <afd_> PlanarPlatypus, sudo bash :)
[06:36] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, i've find the error
[06:36] <Sd3gn0> can i paste here?!?!
[06:37] <Myrtti> nope
[06:37] <bzimage> no
[06:37] <bzimage> just explain
[06:37] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[06:37] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:37] <bzimage> :)
[06:37] <bzimage> or indeed pastebin
[06:37] <bzimage> :)
[06:37] <blargh> ok fixed my problem...there's a space in the command I didn't see....dammit
[06:37] <blargh> cya
[06:38] <Plebeuz> i will be back
[06:39] <Plebeuz> quit i will be back
[06:39] <Sd3gn0> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2717
[06:40] <Sd3gn0> that is the error i've in xorg.0.log
[06:40] <bzimage> ok..
[06:40] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, try sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:40] <bzimage> and then reload your desktop
[06:40] <Sd3gn0> ok 1 sec
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, but i'm downloading
[06:41] <bzimage> ooh
[06:41] <bzimage> ok
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> can't reboot now
[06:41] <bzimage> i'm not talking about reboot
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> ctrl-alt-backspae?
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> *backspace
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> reboot X?
[06:41] <afd_> ubuntu breeze doesn't show the icons in the pager. What can I do?
[06:41] <bzimage> i'm talking about reload your X
[06:41] <Sd3gn0> ok
[06:41] <bzimage> (but if your downloading.. let it finish)
[06:42] <bzimage> ;)
[06:42] <Sd3gn0> mmm let me think
[06:42] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, if i've already done modprobe nvidia???
[06:42] <bzimage> ?
[06:42] <_native_> kc
[06:43] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, also check that /etc/modules has nvidia in it..
[06:43] <Stricklin> I entered 'sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/NVIDIA-Settings.desktop' and got the following: '(gedit:7687): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.' Is this going to be a problem?
[06:43] <bzimage> so it will load the nvidia module on startup
[06:43] <bzimage> (not by default)
[06:43] <Plebeuz> hey people i trying to run a script in boot, i created them, then i puted on /etc/int.d/ thein i ln -s on /etc/rc5.d , but the script dont booted
[06:43] <Sd3gn0> yes
[06:43] <Sd3gn0> but
[06:43] <Sd3gn0> i've tried to start blender
[06:43] <spiral> hi
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> now
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> after
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> modprobe nvidia
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> but nothing
[06:44] <bzimage> after the modprobe.. you need to restart x
[06:44] <theine> Plebeuz, how did you link the script?
[06:44] <bzimage> quit your session (gnome, kde or whatever you use)
[06:44] <bzimage> then relogin
[06:44] <Sd3gn0> ok
[06:44] <Plebeuz> S99test -> /etc/init.d/test
[06:45] <tck> emm i cant find the latest kernel source with synaptic
[06:45] <Plebeuz> theine, 0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   17 2005-10-02 00:48 S99test -> /etc/init.d/test
[06:45] <theine> Plebeuz, that should be ok
[06:45] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, don't have /etc/modules...
[06:45] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, ?
[06:45] <tck> uname -r = 2.6.12-9-386
[06:45] <bzimage> ofcourse youdo
[06:45] <tck> and it only goes up to 2.6.11 in synaptic
[06:45] <FrdPrefct> Plebeuz: Try /etc/rc2.d
[06:45] <theine> Plebeuz, could be that runlevel 5 is not the default runlevel
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> # The default runlevel.
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> didymo:
[06:46] <theine> Plebeuz, have a look at /etc/inittab
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> didymo:
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> how odd
[06:46] <Plebeuz> id:2:initdefault:
[06:46] <Plebeuz> ok
[06:46] <FrdPrefct> .id:2:initdefault:
[06:46] <Plebeuz> u right
[06:46] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, (you need to sudo that file.. otherwise no access)
[06:46] <Plebeuz> tkz
[06:47] <tck> how do i install the kernel source in breexy ?
[06:47] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, if you know vi(m) try: sudo vi /etc/modules
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, es
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> yes i've find it
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> sorry
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> ;-)
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> and I've the nvidia
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> ther
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> e
[06:47] <Sd3gn0> ok
[06:48] <Plebeuz> hey why ubuntu starts in runlevel 2 in default?
[06:49] <t4k3r0n_> a
[06:49] <bzimage> Plebeuz, because they set it that way :P
[06:49] <Kirsch> dare I ask how ATI Mobility support is in Breezy?
[06:49] <mr_roboto> http://www.phildev.net/runlevels.html
[06:49] <mr_roboto> handy reference
[06:50] <tck> im running 2.6.12-9-386, but when i try apt-get install kernel-source
[06:50] <bzimage> mr_roboto, depends on distro.. wich runlevel is what
[06:50] <bzimage> :P
[06:50] <tck> my kernel version aint there, any ideas ?
[06:50] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, i've loaded nvidia
[06:50] <Sd3gn0> now i've to restart X?
[06:50] <bzimage> yes
[06:50] <Plebeuz> bzimage,  what the purpose of that?
[06:50] <Sd3gn0> ok i try
[06:50] <Kirsch> bzimage: do u know anyting about Mobility support in Breezy?
[06:50] <mr_roboto> bzimage: that's what that web page says
[06:51] <bzimage> Kirsch, no sorry
[06:51] <Sd3gn0> reboot
[06:51] <bzimage> <-- no ati user (or experience)
[06:51] <n00bster> hi all, is there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu Like FlashGet in win ?
[06:51] <Kirsch> ok
[06:51] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: were you using it in hoary?
[06:51] <Kirsch> Yea
[06:51] <Kirsch> i think so
[06:52] <Kirsch> i don't remember if i reset it up tho since i did it
[06:52] <Kirsch> its possible i didn't
[06:52] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: reason I ask is I use it to and upgrading to Breezy even as I type on my laptop
[06:52] <mr_roboto> hope it works!
[06:52] <Kirsch> oh, u haven't done it yet
[06:52] <Kirsch> let me know
[06:52] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, that tutorial is wrong..
[06:52] <Kirsch> PM me
[06:52] <mr_roboto> doing it right now
[06:52] <Kirsch> ok
[06:52] <Kirsch> do u want to make a package if it works? ;-)
[06:52] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: wrong in the sense that graphics are enabled in lower levels on various linuxes, yes :)
[06:53] <brosio> i've install mysql-server it is running, but the port of server isn't open! what could be ?
[06:53] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: if I knew how, I might!   :)
[06:53] <aeho> have anyone got nvidian 3d acceleration working in breezy badger?
[06:53] <graig> hello, does anyone know why my system clock randomly and incorrectly advances an hour every once in a while?
[06:53] <Kirsch> graig: bad battery?
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> bzimage, i've restarted
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> but nothing
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> i've the module loade
[06:54] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, runlevel 1 is single user, runlevel 2 is multiuser, runlevel 3 is text, runlevel 4 grphic and text(normaly start in text), runlevel 5 graphic(start in graphic, runlevel 6 reboot...
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> d
[06:54] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: probably won't find out until later this afternoon though. need to leave soon and it's still downloading massive amounts of stuff!
[06:54] <bzimage> Sd3gn0, are you sure?
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> yes
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> lsmod | grep nvidia
[06:54] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, i am wrong?
[06:54] <bzimage> ok...
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> nvidia               4569532  8
[06:54] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: yes, wrong :)
[06:54] <Kirsch> yea i bet it could take some time, it only took me like 10min to download all the packages (i'm on an EDU)
[06:54] <Sd3gn0> think that's right
[06:54] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, ....
[06:55] <bzimage> hmm
[06:55] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: there are no hard rules on what a unix system has to do on the various run levels, they usually agree on 1 and 6 though
[06:55] <Stricklin> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[06:55] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: i think 2-5 are identical in ubuntu
[06:55] <mr_roboto> could be wrong
[06:55] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, i think u are thinking in debian, and i am thinking on general linux based distributions
[06:55] <Kirsch> i still don't understand what the reason was for the removal of terminal on the right click? (i'm very happy there was a fix tho)
[06:55] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, yes
[06:55] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: oh well yes, all linuxes are definitely not the same
[06:56] <mr_roboto> i should say, all distributions
[06:56] <efbie> Hello everyone ! I have a friend that uses ubuntu and he has two soundcards, but ubuntu uses only the onboard wich is crappy. Only xine use the second, do you have any tips how to enable the second soundcard by default ?
[06:56] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, but normally is like i writed, fedora core, slackware, conectiva etc...
[06:56] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: you can do whatever you want if you play with the scripts :)
[06:56] <Kirsch> efbie: it might be easier to just disable the onboard soundcard
[06:56] <Plebeuz> yes
[06:57] <efbie> Kirsch, in the bios ?
[06:57] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: I think Suse is also as you said, if I remember
[06:57] <Kirsch> yea
[06:57] <efbie> ok, will try
[06:57] <Plebeuz> mr_roboto, so, there is no rulez like cvs distributions for init levels?
[06:57] <zth> how do i set my local variable to use gcc-3.4 instead of 4.0?
[06:57] <Kirsch> i think u just need to change the symbolic link?
[06:58] <mr_roboto> Plebeuz: not sure what you mean. there is no "standard" across all Unixes, or even across Linux distributions.  (don't get the cvs refernce)
[06:58] <Stricklin> How do I exit X?
[06:58] <Kirsch> ALT-CTRL-BACKSPACE
[06:59] <ProN00b> lol
[07:00] <mr_roboto> Can someone tell me what a colony is?  (Colony 5 is out)
[07:00] <graig> does anyone know why my system clock randomly looses an hour of time?  i don't think it's the battery, because when i turn it off it doesn't loose the time.
[07:01] <Sd3gn0> anyone can help me about this error:???
[07:01] <Sd3gn0> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2717
[07:01] <ccooke> graig: did you reboot into windows?
[07:01] <afd_> graig, maybe you have ntp update turned one
[07:02] <Kirsch> to the wrong timezone?
[07:02] <ccooke> It's a common thing with linux and windows interacting.
[07:02] <graig> but i don't have windows.
[07:02] <d33p> what's the url of the hoary backports? http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ doesn't work
[07:02] <_native_> anyone have wpa working under breezy?
[07:02] <Kirsch> oohoohh, DENIED haha
[07:03] <graig> just linux, and it happens with ntp enabled, and disabled.
[07:03] <ccooke> graig: that's very interesting.
[07:03] <graig> i thought ntp autoupdate was doing it, so i turned it off.
[07:03] <Patke> i've got a question: can Ubuntu be upgraded to a new version without the internet - with a CD of a new version?
[07:03] <ccooke> Patke: yes
[07:03] <Kirsch> Patke: yes
[07:03] <graig> and every once in a while when its 12 pm, my computer will say 1pm.
[07:03] <graig> like it added another hour.
[07:03] <Kirsch> :-\
[07:03] <ccooke> graig: it's always one hour?
[07:03] <graig> yes.
[07:03] <jdub> GOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS!
[07:04] <graig> its always one hour.
[07:04] <ccooke> graig: is it always *adding* an hout, never removing it?
[07:04] <graig> i think so.
[07:04] <ccooke> (to the correct time)
[07:04] <mr_roboto> Can someone help me?  I'm trying to upgrade Ubuntu Hoary to Windows 95 SE   any advice?
[07:04] <ccooke> right. It's probably a timezone thing.
[07:04] <Kirsch> so its never more than 1hr off?
[07:04] <graig> no, it adds an hour to the incorrect time.
[07:04] <graig> yeah.
[07:04] <ccooke> wait.
[07:04] <ccooke> Summer time.
[07:04] <Kirsch> is it alwyas 1hr or 0? like can it be 28min off?
[07:04] <css> hello
[07:04] <graig> i think its exactly one hour.
[07:04] <butcherbird> mr_roboto: you consider that an upgrade ? =)
[07:04] <Kirsch> are you in the correct timezone?
[07:04] <graig> but i have the correct timezone selected.
[07:05] <ccooke> graig: new install? old install? Breezy?
[07:05] <d33p> what's the url of the hoary backports? http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ doesn't work
[07:05] <css> how old is everyone
[07:05] <jdub> everyone here seen http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ ? not officially announced yet, you guys get a preview :-)
[07:05] <Kirsch> d33p: works for me
[07:05] <jdub> d33p: they're now on archive.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <Patke> so if I have 5.04 installed and get 5.10 (when it gets out) on a cd I can just upgrade it without downloading anything?
[07:05] <kennethlove> old enough to not ask a/s/l in a tech channel.
[07:05] <mr_roboto> butcherbird: sorry :)    stupid joke      just waiting on breezy to d/l on laptop
[07:05] <Plebeuz> hey biology people take a look at http://linuxfocus.org/English/August2005/article388.shtml
[07:05] <graig> chicago is central time right?
[07:05] <mr_roboto> graig: yes
[07:05] <jdub> Patke: if you haven't installed any extra packages, yes
[07:05] <butcherbird> heh
[07:05] <jdub> Patke: but if you've installed other stuff from main or universe, you
[07:05] <d33p> looking for the sun-j2re package
[07:05] <Patke> jdub: what do you mean by extra packages?
[07:06] <jdub> Patke: but if you've installed other stuff from main or universe, you'll have to download those in the process
[07:06] <jdub> Patke: if you've installed anything via apt, synaptic or gnome-app-installl
[07:06] <jdub> Patke: there's a huge amount of stuff in our repos not included on the CD :-)
[07:06] <graig> could it be a bios setting?
[07:07] <ccooke> css: Well, there's what? about 6 billion people in the world. Average age would be somewhere around twentyish... so, in total, something around a hundred and twenty billion. That help?
[07:07] <Patke> jdub: so I just need to reinstall the apps but my documents stay unchanged?
[07:07] <d33p> what should I include in /etc/apt/sources.list to have backports in hoary?
[07:07] <jdub> graig: try restarting ntpdate to get the system running at the right time, and run hwclock --systohc
[07:07] <css> HELLO
[07:08] <css> HOW OLD IS EVERYONE?
[07:08] <jdub> Patke: ah, hmm.
[07:08] <css> sorry
[07:08] <jdub> Patke: you've done a default install -> have you added any applications with synaptic?
[07:08] <Patke> jdub: some
[07:08] <css> whats the age range
[07:08] <css> ??
[07:08] <mr_roboto> wtf? did i enter an aol chat room?
[07:08] <css> AAAHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:08] <Fleck> shawnz what's difference between deb and ubuntu ?
[07:09] <jdub> Patke: ok, so when you upgrade, it's fairly likely that you'll hit the network to download new versions of those
[07:09] <jdub> Fleck: there's a faq on www.ubuntu.com with details about that
[07:09] <synic> anyone have a creative mp3 player?  gnomad2 seems to have stopped working in breezy
[07:09] <Fleck> ok
[07:09] <Patke> jdub: no problem, but my documents (text,music,videos...) don't get erased?
[07:09] <css> hOW DO YOU CHANGE COLOUR
[07:09] <css> ?
[07:09] <jdub> Patke: not at all
[07:09] <SanderD> Hi. I've just messed up the MBR I think (using fixboot in Windows), so Grub can't boot. Can I fix this from a LiveCD?
[07:09] <Kirsch> SanderD: i think so
[07:09] <Patke> jdub: thx, that's all I needed to know.
[07:10] <ccooke> css: Please don't shout. Change the colour of what?
[07:10] <Kirsch> you can mount your old system and reinstall grub
[07:10] <SanderD> Kirsch: With grub-install?
[07:10] <css> My font.
[07:10] <Kirsch> I think so.
[07:10] <Kirsch> css: in IRC?
[07:10] <css> I was stuck on cap locks.
[07:10] <graig> shawnz ubuntu comes on 1 cd, debian has 1-5 cd's.   ubuntu is supposed to be easier, and has a better default desktop/selection of programs for people just starting out with linux.
[07:11] <fbn> what package is sound-preferences for a bugreport?
[07:11] <shawnz> uh, why are you telling me graig
[07:11] <shawnz> Fleck asked
[07:11] <jdub> fbn: control-center
[07:11] <obsvuugj> does enemy territory work on ubuntu amd64?
[07:11] <fbn> jdub, thanks
[07:11] <Fleck> hehe :))
[07:11] <graig> ahhh hehe :)
[07:12] <css> How old is evry1
[07:12] <mjr> (to breezy)
[07:12] <css> ?
[07:12] <graig> 27
[07:12] <mr_roboto> Kirsch: can you do something like "dpkg-reconfigure grub" in that case?
[07:12] <css> how old r you ccokie
[07:12] <jatos> hi
[07:12] <css> Hello??
[07:13] <Kirsch> mr_roboto: i don't know, if he changes is sysroot to /mnt/sysimage he probably can
[07:13] <mr_roboto> still getting  a handle on debian, seems like the way to fix broken configs in general is dpkg-reconfigure
[07:13] <Kirsch> i avoid doing that unless i really NEED to... its just reinstall grub, i'd do that if just doing grub-install doesn't work
[07:13] <jatos> how would I tell ubuntu to use a french keyboard layout?
[07:13] <ccooke> !tell css about offtopic
[07:14] <Kirsch> jatos: when you first boot, it will ask u for a type of keyboard.
[07:14] <Kirsch> jatos: installing it rather,
[07:14] <vladuz976> what do i need to install to get the full kde desktop?
[07:14] <clast> jatos, system>preferences>keyboard>layouts
[07:14] <jdub> vladuz976: kubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <Kirsch> vladuz976: u may want to use kubuntu
[07:14] <vladuz976> is there a bundle ?
[07:14] <Kirsch> or that
[07:14] <vladuz976> Kirsch: already have ubuntu installed
[07:14] <Kirsch> ah ok
[07:14] <jatos> clast, in kde or gnome?
[07:15] <css> What about offtopic
[07:15] <clast> jatos, gnome
[07:15] <jatos> right
[07:15] <jatos> thanks brb
[07:15] <Kirsch> css: join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to engage in questions not related to support
[07:15] <d33p> don't find any working source for backports, anybody has any working urls?
[07:15] <SanderD> Kirsch: I'm getting this error when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" now: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[07:15] <jdub> d33p: the backports are now hosted on archive.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <Kirsch> you know what was interesting about this problem
[07:16] <Kirsch> my roommate had the same issue, and he went about trying to just reinstall ubuntu
[07:16] <clast> d33p, deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:16] <Kirsch> but hoping that it wouldn't reinstall any packages since it was still there but hoping grub would install
[07:16] <SanderD> Kirsch: I'm getting this error now: /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[07:16] <Kirsch> ubuntu specifically said that there's nothing to do, so i'm not even going to bother installing grub again
[07:16] <vladuz976> Kirsch: only differnce is kde and gnome, right?
[07:16] <Kirsch> when that was the only tthing that we were trying to do.
[07:16] <SanderD> Sorry, something wrong with my irssi
[07:16] <Kirsch> SanderD: are you on the live CD?
[07:16] <Kirsch> vladuz976: i think so.
[07:16] <fbn> is it possible to change severity in Launchpad as bug reporter?
[07:16] <clast> lol?
[07:17] <SanderD> Kirsch: yes.
[07:17] <Kirsch> vladuz976: kwrite (or kate, i don't use kubuntu) as apposed to gedit
[07:17] <jdub> vladuz976: the kubuntu-desktop metapackage is what kubuntu installs instead of ubuntu-desktop
[07:17] <Kirsch> SanderD: do the chroot command to mkae ur root /mnt/sysimage
[07:17] <Kirsch> then u can try to dothe dpkg-reconfigure grub
[07:17] <jdub> vladuz976: but both metapackages (and everything they depend on) co-exist
[07:17] <vladuz976> jdub: yeah i just read about it. thanks.
[07:18] <clast> d33p, btw how are your graphics card drivers doing?
[07:18] <vladuz976> jdub: so now i am gonna have kubuntu and ubuntu :)
[07:18] <SanderD> Kirsch: How do I do that? The partition is at /dev/sda1 and mounted on /media/root.
[07:18] <Kirsch> i think its
[07:18] <Kirsch> chroot /media/root
[07:19] <Kirsch> i g/g for a bit, i'l be back in about 10min
[07:19] <SanderD> Kirsch, okay, thanks for your help.
[07:19] <jatos> bacl
[07:19] <damo21> i dont understand why anyone would use windows ever again
[07:19] <damo21> :D
[07:20] <znh> damo21, people that aren't aware of the uglyness of bill gates
[07:20] <jatos> well it seems to have changed the settings in gnome but I have just gone back to KDE and its still eng kb layout
[07:20] <r0d> znh most people just dont care.
[07:21] <damo21> its not the uglyness of bill gates... its the uglyness of the OS he stole
[07:21] <jatos> will it loads the FR kb layout when I logout of KDE and log back in?
[07:21] <clast> jatos: well you do have to change it in kde too, gnome and kde are seperat things
[07:21] <clast> jatos, there should be a similar option in kde
[07:21] <bonee> fluxbox
[07:21] <jatos> I found it in KDE but it doesn't work
[07:21] <r0d> damo21, he bought it for 50g's brotha
[07:21] <jatos> though gnome did complain that it coudln't uninstall GB settings
[07:22] <clast> jatos, hmmm....weird
[07:22] <damo21> yeah, like i said... nothing
[07:22] <vladuz976> anyone know how you can switch between kdm and gdm?
[07:22] <r0d> stole != bought. but i get your point
[07:22] <jatos> change the symlinks vladuz976
[07:22] <mr_roboto> damo21: games are one reason ;)
[07:22] <vladuz976> jatos: which ones?
[07:22] <jatos> providing you got the one you want installed
[07:22] <damo21> yes games are the only reason
[07:22] <mjr> vladuz976, dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or kdm), I think
[07:22] <mjr> vladuz976, oh, with sudo
[07:23] <tobi-wan> hi folks
[07:23] <vladuz976> mjr: thanks
[07:23] <jatos> one symlink wil lsay kdm the other gdm, move the one that starts the display manager your don't want vladuz976
[07:24] <damo21> Does anyone know if Japanese is fully supported in openoffice
[07:24] <damo21> like, to type the full character list by merging shorter characters
[07:25] <damo21> actually, i mean supported by gnome
[07:25] <r0d> anyone here convert to opera since the new "ad-free" version????
[07:26] <damo21> whats so good about opera?
[07:26] <r0d> nothing from what i can tell. purrty interface. thats about it
[07:26] <damo21> actually, there is a site i cant access with firefox, even though i have the plugins
[07:27] <D1> ELEVEN MORE DAYS!!!!
[07:27] <r0d> they have somewhat of a search engine inbedded, but nothing like firefox. just would like to know if anyone here thinks its better
[07:27] <Kirsch> r0d: i got one, i got it when they gave free keys
[07:27] <funkyHat> linuxdojo
[07:27] <damo21> i like firefox
[07:27] <funkyHat> doh
[07:27] <bob2> r0d: why don't you just give it a go? ;)
[07:27] <Kirsch> i do like it, but there are things about FF that I got used to, if i had gone from IE to something else again, i'd probab ly be on opera.
[07:27] <shinu> why does my externad hard drive show up as hdb and not hda?
[07:27] <D1> because your primary hd is hda probably.
[07:27] <shinu> there isnt any other device that is taking up the 'hda'
[07:28] <shinu> oh
[07:28] <shinu> sorry
[07:28] <damo21> external drive??
[07:28] <damo21> how did u boot then?
[07:28] <shinu> sdb instead or sda is what i meant
[07:28] <r0d> bob2,  lol played w/ it.
[07:28] <r0d> bob2,  can i guess to say your a user?
[07:28] <bob2> r0d: no
[07:28] <r0d> bob2, phew
[07:29] <r0d> <---open source all the way
[07:29] <damo21> i think linux is in danger of being too divergent with all its packages
[07:29] <r0d> distros or software?
[07:29] <shinu> D1, damo21: sorry, i meant that it shows up as sdb instead or sda
[07:30] <jatos> damo21, I agree with you to an extent
[07:30] <damo21> like, it takes too much effort to maintain one particular distro
[07:30] <damo21> im all for open source
[07:30] <bob2> damo21: this sounds uninformed and off-topic; please take it elsewhere
[07:30] <damo21> but ubuntu is probably the best ive seen
[07:31] <r0d> ahh good comeback, lol
[07:31] <foampeice> why does my xmms crash on the initializing of the alarm module
[07:31] <damo21> :D
[07:31] <r0d> yea ubuntu and gentoo are my homeboys
[07:31] <r0d> thinking of getting a shirt made...
[07:31] <damo21> uninformed? ive played with almost all distros
[07:32] <apokryphos> damo21: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:32] <damo21> ok lol
[07:32] <Stricklin> http://charlesstricklin.com/2005/10/02/ubuntu/
[07:32] <r0d> your gonna have to sit in the corner pretty soon damo21
[07:32] <r0d> :D
[07:32] <sylvan> Help! Ubuntu messed up the boot options (after the latest upgrade via synaptic) when I restart! I vaguely recall a nice graphical program where you could modify the order and such of the boot options in GRUB, but I can't find it! Anyone know?
[07:33] <yarddog> why does the channel display #ubuntu-unregged ?
[07:33] <r0d> how easy is the transition to the ole badger?
[07:33] <r0d> been scared to do it
[07:33] <jatos> yarddog, bcause you not a registered freenode user
[07:34] <apokryphos> r0d: it only requires altering one file, and then running one command, so in that sense it's trivial. Whether you have problems is another issue, but it should in theory be reasonably stable now.
[07:34] <yarddog> uhm
[07:34] <damo21> i just formatted my ntfs partition and started from scratch
[07:34] <damo21> :D
[07:34] <yarddog> [yarddog]  is identified to services
[07:34] <yarddog> excuse me?
[07:34] <r0d> apokryphos,  that sounds like a green light to me
[07:34] <apokryphos> yarddog: you're in #ubuntu not #ubuntu-unregged
[07:34] <foampeice> how would i use deborphan in combination with apt-get remove
[07:34] <jatos> you need to register (reserve) you nickname then log in
[07:35] <yarddog> apokryphos, ok, it says #ubuntu-unregged, just an fyi
[07:35] <sylvan> anyone? How do I modify the entries in the boot-menu? The latest update removed windows from it among other minor inconveniences!
[07:35] <apokryphos> r0d: it still hasn't technically reached stable status, but quite a few in here have been using it for several weeks. Your decision, of course; ubuntu does support a stable -> stable dist-upgrade
[07:35] <BlankB> Is there a place that has a package list with version #'s for breezy?
[07:35] <apokryphos> BlankB: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <jatos> yarddog, type /msg nickserv register yarddog
[07:35] <el_toro> sylvan, you have to put your custom entries outside the part that gets re-generated on every grub update
[07:35] <n00bster> is there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu ?
[07:35] <yarddog> breezy works well for me, the 5.04 froze
[07:36] <apokryphos> BlankB: or, in here, /msg ubotu info somepackage breezy
[07:36] <funkyHat> has anyone else had problems running beagle?
[07:36] <yarddog> jatos, you're wrong
[07:36] <yarddog> jatos, whois me
[07:36] <sylvan> el_toro, what do you mean?
[07:36] <damo21> when does breezy official come out?
[07:36] <kemik> 13th
[07:36] <apokryphos> damo21: /topic
[07:36] <funkyHat> 13th
[07:36] <el_toro> sylvan, you have to edit your menu.lst file
[07:36] <sylvan> There was a graphical program where I could modify this (I think it was in preferences) but it's gone now
[07:36] <BlankB> apokryphos: thanks that is exactly what I wanted.
[07:36] <sylvan> where is that?
[07:36] <jatos> ok yarddog , apologies
[07:37] <el_toro> boot/grub
[07:37] <yarddog> np
[07:37] <damo21> what apokryphos?
[07:37] <apokryphos> damo21: /topic = check the channel topic
[07:37] <damo21> lol oh yes
[07:37] <sylvan> there's no program to help me do this? I could've swore I've seen one before that worked well when it came to changing priorities at least
[07:37] <r0d> I still hoping they released some certifications for ubuntu.
[07:37] <obsvuugj> does Enemy Territory work on Ubuntu amd64 ?
[07:38] <damo21> it does if u compile it
[07:38] <el_toro> sylvan, used to be a boot manager preference thingy, but that seems to have disappeared in recent updates
[07:38] <sylvan> what's it called, maybe it's still in synaptic?
[07:38] <obsvuugj> damo21>does it work on the .run ?
[07:38] <el_toro> sylvan, doubt it
[07:38] <damo21> i dont know, i dont have 64 bit but i know if u compile anything yourself it will work
[07:39] <el_toro> anyway, it's just a little text-file editing, and you only have to do it once
[07:39] <sylvan> okay, the first partition on my the first disk is (hd0,0) right?
[07:39] <r0d> yep
[07:39] <el_toro> right-o
[07:39] <obsvuugj> damo21> how do I complie ? ./configure && make && sudo make install ?
[07:40] <damo21> how do u compile?  try a gentoo stage 1 installation u will learn how to compile
[07:40] <damo21> :D
[07:40] <funkyHat> haha
[07:40] <r0d> sylvan,  I had same problem when i had a dual-booting system. dam microsoft is mbr hog
[07:40] <Karnivore> Hey people
[07:40] <n00bster> can somone assist me ?
[07:40] <evian> how come gnome uses esd instead of alsa?
[07:40] <obsvuugj> is it ./configure && make && sudo make install
[07:41] <r0d> n00bster,  just ask question bud
[07:41] <n00bster> is there an  xface Download Accelerator Manager in ubuntu ?
[07:41] <sylvan> what does "chainloader +1" mean?
[07:41] <ProN00b> ./pftp: error while loading shared libraries: libpftputil.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:41] <sylvan> and "makeactive"?
[07:41] <kemik> obsvuugj:  usuallly..
[07:41] <damo21> obsvuugj try it
[07:41] <apokryphos> obsvuugj: it's generally conventional to specify the prefix for many apps, on the configure. Are you sure you have the source, though, and that you should compile it?
[07:41] <obsvuugj> ok
[07:41] <ProN00b> why do i get that through that library is in /usr/local/lib
[07:41] <kemik> obsvuugj:  read the "INSTALL" or "README" file
[07:41] <cantona_> Breezy Colony 5 is pre relesae?
[07:42] <n00bster> ?
[07:42] <thrice`> well, it's before the release
[07:42] <apokryphos> cantona_: yes
[07:42] <Karnivore> Is Ubuntu a good build of Linux to learn about Linux in general? I'm going into different IT jobs after uni and Linux is used alot in networking of course
[07:42] <thrice`> so I guess so
[07:42] <n00bster> well rob, i did :)
[07:42] <cantona_> Does it support IBM X32?
[07:42] <r0d> n00bster, when someone doesnt answer, usally means they dont know. do a linux google search on it
[07:42] <evian> cantona_ I don't know about Colony 5, but breezy should be released this month
[07:43] <n00bster> i found onlly progzilla, but it's console based.
[07:43] <yarddog> i dont see pre-release anywhere on that url
[07:43] <apokryphos> the Colony releases are just snapshots of the development done on the given distro-in-work in ISOs
[07:43] <n00bster> and i'm looking for en xface program
[07:43] <damo21> sylvan: chainloader +1 is to tell the cpu to execute the boot code at the next physical block on the disk
[07:43] <evian> Karnivore: I think it is good
[07:43] <r0d> or ask the almighty bob2
[07:43] <r0d> no private though.. he'll spank u
[07:43] <obsvuugj> I cant find the source for linux ....
[07:44] <Plebeuz> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[07:44] <JDigital> Karnivore: I think it's as good as any other, at least
[07:44] <apokryphos> Plebeuz: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:44] <JDigital> but then I've only used Ubuntu
[07:44] <TrekCycling> is the Breezy preview the latest version of Breezy?
[07:44] <r0d> obsvuugj,  in synaptic or on the net?
[07:44] <Karnivore> Okay thanks, it always a start
[07:44] <Plebeuz> ohhh
[07:44] <obsvuugj> in the official ssite of ET
[07:44] <Karnivore>  I tried Gentoo but didnt like it that much
[07:44] <Plebeuz> gcc is not installed
[07:44] <kemik> Karnivore:  linux from scratch
[07:44] <TrekCycling> or is there a different place to get the latest cut of Breezy?
[07:45] <Kyral> Plebeuz, install the build-essiential package
[07:45] <Kyral> but spelled right
[07:45] <damo21> gentoo is very good, but after 1 year you realise it takes too much time to maintain
[07:45] <apokryphos> TrekCycling: Colony 5 is the latest ISO release
[07:45] <Karnivore> yeah, you have to compile things all the time dont you
[07:45] <TrekCycling> That's what I want
[07:45] <damo21> yes
[07:45] <TrekCycling> where do you get the Colony ISOs?
[07:45] <apokryphos> TrekCycling: /topic
[07:45] <damo21> ubuntu is excellent
[07:45] <Plebeuz> Kyral, i dont like to install things by apt get, that messed up with linux
[07:45] <r0d> obsvuugj,  go to kernel.org  for latest
[07:46] <r0d> obsvuugj,  or just type "linux source" in synaptic
[07:46] <TrekCycling> oh duh, thanks
[07:46] <kemik> Plebeuz:  apt-get is preffered over compiling yourself if you wanna keep your system 'clean'
[07:46] <Kyral> Plebeuz, then how will you install things on Ubuntu?
[07:46] <Kyral> Surely you don't want to put yourself through Dependency Hell
[07:46] <Plebeuz> .deb package
[07:46] <Plebeuz> or tar.gz
[07:46] <kemik> Plebeuz:  removing stuff yuo've compiled yourself is often messy
[07:46] <Kyral> guess what, Debs are Apt :P
[07:46] <kemik> Kyral:  no
[07:46] <damo21> Kyral he will use synaptic i assume
[07:46] <Kyral> Apt is a fronted to dselect
[07:46] <apokryphos> kemik: not really; make uninstall :P
[07:46] <r0d> obsvuugj, its alittle more process to compling your own kernel. i remember having to downloading some support files...
[07:47] <Kyral> in theory
[07:47] <foampeice> how do i put each line of a text file if it were a list of packages onto the commandline to be processed by apt-get remove ?
[07:47] <obsvuugj> r0d> not the kernel, the source code of enemy territory :P
[07:47] <Kyral> Okay, the way I see it
[07:47] <transparentdream> Is there a graphing program for ubuntu like a graphing calcuilator?
[07:47] <kemik> apokryphos:  not all programs are nice
[07:47] <r0d> ahh
[07:47] <Kyral> Apt acts like a bigass search engine for dselect/dpkg
[07:47] <r0d> guess i need my coffee
[07:47] <apokryphos> kemik: sure; but they _generally_ have a nice make uninstall
[07:47] <Plebeuz> kemik, make uninstall works fine for me
[07:47] <foampeice> buchan: what packages do you need to run sympatico?
[07:47] <el_toro> good ol checkinstall
[07:47] <cantona_> i think apt is better than aptitute, anyone agree?
[07:47] <D1> breezy needs an updated gnome-power-manager. ;[
[07:48] <buchan> o_O
[07:48] <apokryphos> cantona_: aptitude is a front-end to apt
[07:48] <foampeice> do any of the package managers show orphans?
[07:48] <apokryphos> cantona_: apt-get is also a front-end to apt
[07:48] <n00bster> qwestion: is there a way to play my win' games in Linux ? (insted of booting to windows)
[07:48] <blekos> hello ppl
[07:48] <Kyral> foampeice, sudo apt-get install debfoster
[07:48] <r0d> i hope badger has BUM by default
[07:48] <apokryphos> foampeice: deborphan does, and aptitude keeps track of them.
[07:48] <damo21> ok, guys everyone who wants to chat about how cool ubuntu is lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:48] <cantona_> apokryphos, it's differece with apt-get and aptitute install ....
[07:48] <blekos> do u know any good ftp with gui?
[07:48] <foampeice> Kyral: debfoster?
[07:48] <stpere> n00bster, look for Cedega
[07:49] <Kyral> its either deborphan or debfoster
[07:49] <Kyral> one just lists orphans
[07:49] <apokryphos> cantona_: sure; but you said "better than apt", which is incomplete :P
[07:49] <kemik> cantona_:  not really any difference
[07:49] <n00bster> ok, thanks stpere.
[07:49] <buchan> Is the Ubuntu GTK theme and the likes  availble to download online anywhere?
[07:49] <rockin_stan> anybody managed to get the last.fm player running under gnome?
[07:49] <apokryphos> Kyral: nope, they can both remove them, but they serve slightly different functions
[07:49] <Kyral> the other actually goes through your list and asks if you wanna uninstall things
[07:49] <kemik> cantona_:  i mean, they both utilize the same "core" or whatever you like to callit
[07:49] <apokryphos> Kyral: debfoster works with conjugation of other packages which it holds on to
[07:49] <r0d> blekos, gftp is a gui based client
[07:49] <Kyral> yah, I get'em mixed up
[07:49] <Karnivore> stpere, does that mean with Cedega you could run windows games on a mac, through ubuntu?
[07:50] <blekos> thanx r0d
[07:50] <r0d> :D
[07:50] <stpere> Karnivore, I don't think so
[07:50] <stpere> Karnivore, because it's not an emulator
[07:50] <buchan> Karnivore: No.
[07:50] <stpere> Karnivore, only a Windows API translation/implementation
[07:51] <foampeice> apokryphos: how do you remove the orphans in aptitude?
[07:51] <Karnivore> okay I didnt think so, just dreaming :)
[07:51] <r0d> any .net programmers here use mono?
[07:51] <buchan> Karnivore: Maybe once Mac goes x86 there will be Cedega for it.
[07:52] <stpere> someone know why I installed the nvidia drivers (supplied by ubuntu), I do get the nvidia logo on startup but...
[07:52] <Burke> hi all
[07:52] <Karnivore> yeah thats a good point
[07:52] <stpere> still no direct rendering
[07:52] <Kyral> Hoary or Breezy?
[07:52] <stpere> me? Hoary
[07:52] <Kyral> nm then
[07:52] <Kyral> didja do sudo nvidia-glx enable?
[07:52] <sheb> breezy upgrades are messing up wirelessconnections
[07:52] <stpere> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:52] <Kyral> or whatever that command is?
[07:52] <stpere> yes I did
[07:53] <Kyral> reload X
[07:53] <stpere> done this
[07:53] <Burke> Question, can Hoary Live save my configs?
[07:53] <foampeice> how do i use debfoster to remove orphans?
[07:53] <stpere> I'm really confused now
[07:53] <stpere> :-P
[07:53] <Kyral> foampeice, do a sudo debfoster
[07:54] <Kyral> it will go through EVERY package in your system and ask you about it (Keep, Remove, Purge)
[07:54] <sheb> breezy problems
[07:54] <stpere> my xorg.conf file seems ok since it has "nvidia" rather than "nv"
[07:54] <Kyral> stpere, only thing I can think of is that your card isn't supported by the drivers
[07:54] <Kyral> I know SOME older cards aren't supported anymore
[07:54] <stpere> no, nevermind I found it
[07:55] <Kyral> ah good then
[07:55] <stpere> shame on me :-)
[07:55] <willvarfar> which package do I need to get pthreads?
[07:55] <stpere> left a Load "dri"
[07:55] <vengeful_> installed breezy last week and it even detected the crappy belkin in my desktop....and the pro wireless in laptop
[07:55] <Kyral> I always compile my NVidia from scratch
[07:55] <helmethedd> hello all
[07:55] <vengeful_> no problems
[07:55] <damo21> yes u need Load "dri" in xorg.conf
[07:56] <afd_> how would it be possible to change the display driver for totem?  Fore Free ?
[07:58] <Burke> I just can't figure how to get it to see my hda.
[07:58] <Kyral> n00bster, WINE, but its hit and miss
[07:58] <buchan> n00bster: Cedega. Just roll your own.
[07:59] <Kyral> Cedega+Point2Play is much more reliable, at the cost of 5 bucks a month
[07:59] <larsrohdin> Hi, how do I enable x composite extensions?
[07:59] <sheb> breezy updates are breaking stuff ..yea wireless
[07:59] <helmethedd> i'm on a dell inspiron 2200 laptop, and i'm told i should search for graphics drivers. Where am i gonna find em?
[07:59] <TiMiDo> u can get cedega \for free ;P
[07:59] <buchan> Kyral: I fail to see the usefulness of Point2Play.
[07:59] <Kyral> TiMiDo, it doesn't support InstallShield, or so I have heard
[07:59] <Burke> I'm about to install 5.04 on my spare 20gb drive. Any advice?
[07:59] <TiMiDo> truew
[08:00] <vengeful_> add to xorg.conf
[08:00] <vengeful_> Section "Extensions"
[08:00] <vengeful_> Option "Composite" "Enabled"
[08:00] <vengeful_> EndSection
[08:00] <vengeful_> that should do it
[08:00] <vengeful_> i think
[08:00] <n00bster> Cedega is not Free !
[08:00] <sheb> dhcp software is crashing wireless configurations
[08:00] <helmethedd> where or how do i update my drivers for dell
[08:00] <sheb> on breezy
[08:01] <n00bster> & about wine, i'll give it a go
[08:01] <n00bster> ty..........
[08:01] <helmethedd> just go to dell?
[08:01] <vengeful_> whatcha need to update helmethedd?
[08:01] <Kyral> sheb, Breezy is busted
[08:01] <Kyral> in devel
[08:01] <larsrohdin> vengeful_, anything I have to download? I have xcompmgr, but anything else?
[08:01] <Kyral> I'm gonna sound like a BOFH here, but you knew what you were doing when you installed it :P
[08:01] <helmethedd> well i'm told i should update my graphics drivers vengeful
[08:01] <sheb> why ? it ran good for several days until the new freakin updates
[08:02] <vengeful_> larsohdin..i think its already in the latest release
[08:02] <notaction> Sorry people, I asked this earlier, but I didn't know xchat has a limited buffer.. How do you get out of XFree86, and then how do you get back into it?
[08:02] <yuacht> hmm, when i upgraded too breezy my keyboard layout stopped working, any clue how to solve it? i want swedish keyboard layout
[08:02] <vengeful_> so should just add ..i think...never used it to be honest
[08:02] <Kyral> sheb, I'm no MOTU so I don't know
[08:02] <Kyral> use dhclient3
[08:02] <larsrohdin> vengeful_, ok then I'll just restart X i'll  be back if I get problems.. thanks
[08:02] <vengeful_> which card you got helme?
[08:03] <sheb> so where is MOTU
[08:03] <Kyral> notaction, drop to a VT (CTRL+ALT+F1)  login and do a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:03] <helmethedd> venge...i'm not really certain. its built into the laptop and i don't know how to access the info in linux
[08:03] <Kyral> that will halt GDM (and X in the process)
[08:03] <vengeful_> which laptop?
[08:03] <helmethedd> inspiron 2200
[08:03] <Kyral> to get back in just startx or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:03] <vengeful_> il check
[08:04] <helmethedd> thanks pardner
[08:05] <notaction> Kyral, thanks. But could you tell me A) What VT stands for, B) how to parse that command? what does the etc, init.d, and gmd part mean? Are those folders or something?
[08:05] <helmethedd> any one know how to get the palm desk top action working on ubuntu?
[08:05] <Kyral> VT == Virtual Desktop
[08:05] <helmethedd> i followed the instuctions to know avail
[08:06] <Kyral> err
[08:06] <helmethedd> i've only had ubuntu a day now so i'm in over my head
[08:06] <notaction> All try it now...
[08:06] <Kyral> Virtual Terminal
[08:06] <gp_aaron> where does the binary for imagemagick install to?
[08:06] <boxerboy29> vengsful_  try device manager
[08:06] <notaction> That makes more sense
[08:06] <Kyral> /etc/init.d is a directory where devices live
[08:06] <Kyral> err
[08:06] <Kyral> services
[08:07] <Kyral> gdm is the GNOME Display Manager (Your Login Screen when X Fires up when you boot)
[08:07] <mouhez> what firewall does 5.04 use and how do I open port 22?
[08:07] <Kyral> and stop and start tell it start and stop
[08:07] <Kyral> mouhez, by default no firewall
[08:07] <gp_aaron> mouhez: I don't think ubuntu has a firewall by default, are you running a router?
[08:08] <notaction> Kyral, for what I'm doing, it says something to the effect of that all XFree86 instances must be off. Is that going to take care of that?
[08:08] <Kyral> because no services run by default
[08:08] <Kyral> notaction, yes
[08:08] <mouhez> I'm not doing anything, I just want to access my friend's computer
[08:08] <mouhez> :)
[08:08] <mouhez> so he just has to give me a user/pass?
[08:08] <boxerboy29> during install it asks you if you want to enable a firewall
[08:08] <gp_aaron> mouhez: as long as he doesn't have a router running
[08:08] <Kyral> it does?
[08:08] <Kyral> Since when?
[08:08] <mouhez> hmm
[08:08] <boxerboy29> it does for me
[08:08] <notaction> Is there a font that closely resembles the Fixedsys of Windows?
[08:09] <mouhez> nmap says "22/tcp closed ssh", that means there is no firewall?
[08:09] <gp_aaron> mouhez: routers block port 22 by default
[08:09] <mouhez> he doesn't have a router
[08:09] <boxerboy29> where it lists what you want to allow  http ,ssh, so on and so forth
[08:09] <gp_aaron> mouhez: then maybe he is running a firewall on his system
[08:09] <Kyral> boxerboy29, you mean Lokkit?
[08:09] <gp_aaron> or doesn't have ssh installed or doesn't have it running
[08:10] <boxerboy29> i dont know what its called it doesnt say
[08:10] <mouhez> hmm okay
[08:10] <vengeful_> i think its the i915..same as inspiron 6000...why do you need to update?
[08:10] <boxerboy29> kyral: its on same install page that if you want to enable selinux
[08:11] <notaction> Kyral, it looks like "etc" is an important directory in Linux. What does it do?
[08:11] <Kyral> which installer is this?
[08:11] <mouhez> how do I enable ssh then? :)
[08:11] <Plebeuz> i need to install ncurses in ubuntu
[08:11] <gp_aaron> mouhez: sudo apt-get install ssh
[08:11] <Kyral> notaction, /etc is VERY important
[08:11] <mouhez> aha, thanks
[08:11] <boxerboy29> both 5.04 adn 5.10 ask it as for if its anaconda or another again not real sure never looked
[08:11] <Kyral> there is a reason you can't go mucking about in there without root
[08:12] <P229> mouhez: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[08:12] <gp_aaron> mouhez: then /etc/initd/sshd start (if the script doesn't do it for you)
[08:12] <mouhez> :)
[08:12] <atila_sendil> hi all; anyone know a good and easy program to edit .iso files ?
[08:12] <mouhez> okay
[08:12] <r0d> anyone here read TUX magazine?
[08:12] <boxerboy29> next time i have to install it ill look :(
[08:12] <Kyral> yah
[08:12] <notaction> Is 'directory' an appropriate qualifier for what 'etc' is, or is it "not a directory"? wht does it stand for?
[08:12] <Kyral> 'cause last time I installed Breezy Preview, I didn't see that at all
[08:13] <r0d> Kyral,  did you read the recent issue on how gnome is always changing its core design
[08:13] <Kyral> then again I went with a standard thing
[08:13] <Kyral> r0d, that yah was to boxerboy29
[08:13] <boxerboy29> breezy has it that im sure about hoary i remember seeing it but its been awhile
[08:13] <Kyral> notaction, its a directory
[08:13] <Kyral> but a really important one!
[08:13] <notaction> Linux looks so much like scientology with all these scary abbreviations, that's why I've been put off of it for so long
[08:14] <notaction> But I want to give it a fair chance
[08:14] <Kyral>  /usr == User Programs
[08:14] <r0d> Kyral,  right. I dont see what he means by that. gnome since i've been using has always had the same core functionality
[08:14] <gp_aaron> can apt tell you where a application is installed to?
[08:14] <P229> atila_sendil: winiso... yes, I know it's a windows program. unfortunately, there's no such program for linux (that I'm aware of)
[08:14] <Kyral>  /boot == Things that the system need to boot
[08:14] <r0d> just blew my mind...
[08:14] <gp_aaron> i really don't like apt:|
[08:14] <stpere> arg! still no luck with this nvidia driver
[08:14] <Kyral>  /bin == Binary Files
[08:14] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: *gasp*
[08:14] <gp_aaron> heh
[08:15] <atila_sendil> P229, ty; does it work with wine ?
[08:15] <r0d> linux 101 channel
[08:15] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: I've used better that is all
[08:15] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: in my experience, Gentoo portage is all that i've found that's better in some areas
[08:15] <Kyral> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[08:15] <r0d> Razor-X,  portage is awesome
[08:15] <gp_aaron> portage is alright, but compiling is slow...
[08:15] <Kyral> notaction, read that
[08:16] <Kyral> not exactly the most newbie friendly thing
[08:16] <r0d> but if u dont know what your doing, its a noob nightmare
[08:16] <P229> atila_sendil: don't know, there's a good chance it will, especially if you have a version of winiso that works in win95/98
[08:16] <r0d> apt-get is so much easier
[08:16] <Razor-X> ugghhh, why can't screen monitor for activity correctly
[08:16] <notaction> OK, will do. This /bin folder you speak of. Does that store C compilers only?
[08:16] <Razor-X> r0d: meh
[08:16] <gp_aaron> pacman on the other hand, is a very fast, light, extensive, and easy to use binary package manager
[08:16] <Tachyon> I get an error that a package can't be downloaded from a repository when I'm trying to install Bluefish through Synaptic.  Is there anything I can do to fix this, is it a problem with my repository lists?
[08:16] <Razor-X> I could use naim instead of pork for AIM, but pork is more full-featured
[08:16] <atila_sendil> P229, thank you; must try it immediately :-) see you all later :-) bye
[08:16] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: hmmm, i've never used that
[08:16] <Kyral> notaction, I'm not sure
[08:16] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: i'll give it a whirl
[08:16] <p0windah> morning girlos and boyos
[08:17] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: Archlinux, and Rubix
[08:17] <Kyral> notaction, I don't know the specifics of the filesystem
[08:17] <Kyral> I just have a vague idea
[08:17] <gp_aaron> it is fully funcional in Arch and slightly crippled in Rubix
[08:17] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: ahhh, I see
[08:17] <notaction> Kyral, I'm bookmarking that page
[08:17] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: Just be warned that the arch installer isn't pretty
[08:18] <Razor-X> If I set screen to monitor a window for activity, why does it tell me there's activity when I switch out from that window
[08:18] <P229> notaction: /bin holds a lot of system programs
[08:18] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: is it better than a Gentoo Stage 2?
[08:18] <gp_aaron> I don't know
[08:18] <gp_aaron> I never do my gentoo installs
[08:18] <gp_aaron> :P
[08:18] <Razor-X> heh
[08:19] <P229> notaction: whereas /sbin holds superuser only system programs
[08:19] <r0d> whats better, firestarter or lokkit? as far as ease of use?
[08:19] <gp_aaron> you can get a arch install up and running in 15 minutes
[08:19] <Razor-X> why not talk to the Ubuntu maintainers about Pacman?
[08:19] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: oh, no, then it's nothing like a Gentoo stage 2
[08:19] <Razor-X> :P
[08:19] <_jason> hi, does anyone know how to get streaming .asx files to work in Ubuntu?
[08:19] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: Ubuntu would have to completely revamped to use pacman
[08:19] <P229> r0d: firestarter is real easy for what it does. never used lokkit
[08:19] <notaction> Is it true that all, or at least most, issues of linux come with a C, C++, and assembly compiler?
[08:20] <notaction> Gnu C compiler or somesuch?
[08:20] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: yeah, I guess
[08:20] <Razor-X> notaction: yeah
[08:20] <helmethedd> i can't seem to get my palm pilot to sync up with ubuntu. Anyone use a palm?
[08:21] <P229> notaction: many distros do, yes, but ubuntu does not (by default... they're still available in the repos)
[08:21] <gp_aaron> helmethedd: I did, it never did sync properly when I used arch
[08:21] <gp_aaron> - arch + ubuntu
[08:21] <notaction> P229,  How do I get it for Ubuntu?
[08:22] <boxerboy29> notaction: synaptic
[08:22] <Razor-X> notaction: sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[08:22] <gp_aaron> well I'm off to eat
[08:22] <gp_aaron> Razor-X: give arch a shot, http://archlinux.org/
[08:22] <helmethedd> what is arch?
[08:22] <gp_aaron> I recommend using the install guide
[08:22] <boxerboy29> arch= linux distro
[08:22] <vladuz976> how can i create .zip files instead of .tar.gz or .gz files?
[08:22] <cs_DK> what is good about arch?
[08:22] <notaction> 'aptitude'?
[08:23] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: Easy to use package management system
[08:23] <Tachyon> I can't seem to connect to the Backports repository.  Am I out of date or something? :/
[08:23] <helmethedd> oh man this is harsh...so much to learn
[08:23] <gp_aaron> Simple Init system
[08:23] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: fast
[08:23] <boxerboy29> tachyon: the mirror max backports have been shut down
[08:24] <cs_DK> gp_aaron: faster than ubuntu?
[08:24] <helmethedd> i don't speak code and it seems to be required to use my computer now
[08:24] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: but it is also for advanced users
[08:24] <P229> notaction: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[08:24] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: so much faster then ubuntu
[08:24] <Gnuclear> does cd-juicer support mp3 encoding? if not, can someone suggest a gui-frntend that can rip audio cds and encode them to mp3?
[08:24] <Tachyon> boxerboy29: Are there other backport repositories?
[08:24] <cs_DK> gp_aaron: does it use gnome or kde?
[08:24] <maximaus> Gnuclear, with the correct plugins, yes. I prefer ripperX, fwiw.
[08:25] <boxerboy29> tachyon i dont use backports but yes i think i read that in it ill get site give me a few
[08:25] <P229> Gnuclear: nothing in ubuntu supports mp3 by default (patent issues), you'll have to install the codecs, etc., manually
[08:25] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: neither
[08:25] <gp_aaron> or both
[08:25] <Razor-X> gp_aaron: I will, when I get the time
[08:25] <gp_aaron> which ever you'd like
[08:25] <Razor-X> school's been a total b**ch though
[08:25] <cs_DK> gp_aaron: ok, I'll take a look
[08:26] <maximaus> P229,  Manually? you mean just firing up synaptic and clicking a couple boxes? :P
[08:26] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: it installs a base system, then you install the xserver and the desktop environment of your choice
[08:26] <kbrooks> Hey!
[08:26] <gp_aaron> that's what arch is about, choice
[08:26] <cs_DK> gp_aaron: but I can do that with debian also :-)
[08:26] <gp_aaron> ye
[08:26] <kbrooks> I have a problem.
[08:26] <kbrooks> I'm in cli, irssi
[08:27] <P229> maximaus: it's a chore, isn't it?
[08:27] <TiMiDo> kbrooks, what problems?
[08:27] <gp_aaron> and that is the problem kbrooks?
[08:27] <kbrooks> and ...
[08:27] <kbrooks> well, smbclient -- where can i get it?
[08:27] <boxerboy29> tachyon: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69681
[08:27] <TiMiDo> kbrooks, sudo apt-get install smbclient
[08:27] <gp_aaron> cs_DK: you cannot be afraid to edit config files and use the command line
[08:27] <TiMiDo> !Info smbclient
[08:27] <ubotu> smbclient: has nothing about Info
[08:27] <kbrooks> my ubuntu cd is stratched
[08:27] <kbrooks> !info smbclient
[08:27] <ubotu> smbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2337 kB, Installed size: 5996 kB
[08:27] <gp_aaron> so?
[08:28] <kbrooks> all over it
[08:28] <Tachyon> boxerboy29: Thanks.
[08:28] <kbrooks> !info smbclient warty
[08:28] <_jason> bah guess I have to boot windows to listen to .asx D:
[08:28] <gp_aaron> kbrooks, don't use the ubuntu cd
[08:28] <boxerboy29> tachyon: yw
[08:28] <ubotu> smbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.7-1ubuntu6 (warty), Packaged size: 2246 kB, Installed size: 5776 kB
[08:28] <Grev> anyone using 3d accel driver for nvidia under Breezy here
[08:28] <cs_DK> Grev: why?
[08:29] <gp_aaron> well i'm off
[08:29] <gp_aaron> bye all
[08:29] <basvg> hmm, I just did a fresh hoary install on my laptop... went smoothly (as expected). Only the w32codecs package seems to be gone... searching for it in synaptic. What happened to it..?
[08:29] <sktrdie> freaking fever
[08:29] <sas171> hi, how to setup my monitor? I mean, is there some easier way as xorgconf in Ubuntu?
[08:29] <sktrdie> home all day
[08:29] <kbrooks> gp_aaron: ok
[08:30] <kbrooks> aptituding now
[08:30] <TiMiDo> sas171, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <Grev> I'm trying to run my card with 3D nvidia driver (installed/ran nvidia-glx-config enable), but my machine does not seem to have the nvidia.o module
[08:30] <Ne754> sas171: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yet?
[08:30] <gp_aaron> kbrooks just comment the cd out of the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:30] <TiMiDo> sas171,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:30] <Razor-X> basvg: do you have the correct repos added in?
[08:30] <sas171> thank you I'll try it now
[08:30] <TiMiDo> np
[08:31] <sheb> so nobody is really making any comments on breezy or i just missed it ll
[08:31] <basvg> Razor-X: afaik yes, I copied the /etc/apt/sources.list from my work-box ..
[08:31] <Razor-X> basvg: hmmm....
[08:31] <larsrohdin> I cant get my panel transparent in xfce4, can someone help me? I have enabled composite extensions in xorg.conf, and I have created a file called transparency in my xfce folder but still it won't work...
[08:31] <Razor-X> basvg: if this was mplayer, you could just download the codecs from elsewhere, i'm not sure how it works in other media players
[08:31] <TiMiDo> larsrohdin, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[08:31] <p0windah> sheb: what kinda comments you looking for ?
[08:31] <damo21> larsrohdin i bet u use ati card?
[08:32] <larsrohdin> TiMiDo, thats the one I mean
[08:32] <p0windah> sheb: I've got it installed on a desktop and a tablet pc here without any problems..
[08:32] <basvg> Razor-X: Yeah I might just do that.. need to figure out how to get totem to play my dvd :)
[08:32] <larsrohdin> damo21, no 6800gt with latest drivers
[08:32] <damo21> lucky u.... i cant get any transparency with radeon 9800pro
[08:32] <sheb> bout it current state of affairs in regards to it breaking my freakin wireless configurations after I install the upgrades
[08:32] <notaction> heh..hey, is there a 'pi' button on the calculator that comes with ubuntu? Hm, moreover, is there a software package thing that has a really nice calculator that you can enter long expressions into?
[08:32] <damo21> preview breezy
[08:33] <p0windah> sheb: binary drivers ? isnt that in release notes or something..
[08:33] <atila_sendil> P229, hi again; unfortunately winiso did not go with wine; so any cd burning software to make a bootable cd ?
[08:33] <notaction> Um...what's emacs?
[08:33] <Hikaru79> Can Windows be an NFS client?
[08:33] <larsrohdin> notaction, a good editor
[08:33] <damo21> kbrooks... just wait till 13th
[08:33] <mjr> Hikaru79, there are NFS clients for Windows, but you'd probably be better off with Samba at the server end
[08:33] <notaction> Text editor?
[08:33] <P229> atila_sendil: you want to burn an ISO to CD?
[08:33] <kbrooks> damo21: i know, thats why i said "yet to"
[08:33] <Ne754> notaction: an editor that can be compared to vi (ie> vi vs emacs debate)
[08:33] <sheb> where are the rel.notes
[08:33] <mjr> also, I'm not sure if there are beer-free NFS clients for Windows
[08:33] <larsrohdin> notaction, whatever editor... text, code etc.
[08:33] <Hikaru79> mjr, I would, but Samba is such a pain to configure :(
[08:34] <larsrohdin> notaction, I use it to write c++
[08:34] <Ne754> sas171 > any luck on the reconfig?
[08:34] <atila_sendil> P229, well I have the iso but I guess with fileroller I can get the files inside; or just mount it and copy. but I want to add folders and make a bootable CD :-)
[08:34] <kbrooks> larsrohdin: ew c++
[08:34] <P229> notaction: why don't you try the LiveCD?
[08:34] <larsrohdin> kbrooks, huh?
[08:34] <discipleofyeshua> is breezy a stable operating system?
[08:34] <sas171> Ne754: i'm doing it now, one second
[08:35] <kbrooks> discipleofyeshua: wait until the 13th
[08:35] <notaction> I've got it installed on a virtual machine, I think it's better this way.
[08:35] <scribbles> anyone got a sample sources.list for 5.10?
[08:35] <larsrohdin> kbrooks, ew?
[08:35] <Ne754> sas171: ok
[08:35] <p0windah> discipleofyeshua: the preview still have issues that need to be ironed out
[08:35] <P229> atila_sendil: oh... if you're new to linux, I'd just use windows and winiso. there's a way to do what you want to do, but it's a major PITA
[08:36] <kbrooks> scribbles: sed -i -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <scribbles> I can't seem to get apt-get to work in 5.10
[08:36] <scribbles> whats that do brooks?
[08:36] <Coder|Away> Hi all, I've got a seemingly simple question: How can I get ubuntu to remember my DNS server IPs instead of querying the router for them?
[08:36] <Razor-X> notaction: in Octave or Maxima (which are downloadable, and more powerful) there should be pi included
[08:36] <kbrooks> scribbles: do you have hoary installed?
[08:36] <scribbles> no
[08:36] <atila_sendil> P229, so any recommendations to to start reading :-) like nero had the option in windows or so ?
[08:36] <scribbles> preview 5.10
[08:37] <larsrohdin> so, any ideas on my transparetn panel?
[08:37] <kbrooks> scribbles: oh, sorry
[08:37] <p0windah> coder: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:37] <atila_sendil> and anybody know a program to make a bootable CD with the boot part I provide ?
[08:37] <Shin_Gouki> how do i mount, access a USB stick from bash?
[08:37] <boxerboy29> apt-get works out of box on breezy should anyway
[08:37] <sheb> at first i thought it was just the dhcp* stuff ..unchecked those in the update  ..there are other waaaay serious ills
[08:37] <P229> atila_sendil: basically, what you would have to do is extract the boot track from the iso, extract all the files, add your files, then rebuild the iso
[08:37] <scribbles> Err http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net breezy-extras/restricted Packages
[08:37] <scribbles>   404 Not Found
[08:37] <Coder> p0windah: Ok, thanks. I'll take a look.
[08:37] <sas171> Ne754: I have a PS/2 mouse what dev should I choose?
[08:37] <P229> atila_sendil: with cdrecord, probably
[08:37] <kbrooks> scribbles: comment that out
[08:37] <Hendric> what is the most minimal install option for breezy? aside from the SERVER option?
[08:37] <kbrooks> in sources.list
[08:37] <boxerboy29> scribbles: mirrormax backports have been shut down
[08:37] <Ne754> sas171 > should be the /dev/input/mice (the default)
[08:37] <scribbles> oh okay
[08:37] <atila_sendil> P229, exactly what I want to do; I'll start reading cdrecord ty :-)
[08:37] <P229> atila_sendil: nero can burn a bootable iso
[08:38] <sas171> Ne754: ok, thx
[08:38] <P229> atila_sendil: have fun :)
[08:38] <hussam> I'm trying to clean up my kubuntu system. I found those packages that are not dependancies of other package
[08:38] <hussam> are these packages safe to remove? texinfo texi2html python2.4-numarray lapack3
[08:38] <shinu> is abc bittorrent client in the repos?
[08:39] <kbrooks> hussam: check them to see if they rely on any other packages
[08:39] <hussam> kbrooks: no installed packages rely on them.
[08:40] <P229> shinu: not for 5.10
[08:40] <atila_sendil> hussam : how did you find those packages ?
[08:40] <kbrooks> hussam: its safe then
[08:40] <p0windah> hussam: apt-cache show texinfo; then if its not something you need, apt-get remove --purge texinfo
[08:40] <shinu> P229: 5.04?
[08:40] <hussam> atila_sendil: browsing thourgh synaptic
[08:40] <P229> shinu: don't know
[08:40] <atila_sendil> hussam ty; thought there was a way to list them :-)
[08:41] <kbrooks> Seveas: hi
[08:41] <Hendric> what is the most minimal install option for breezy?
[08:41] <brosio> an howto to print on ubuntu ?
[08:41] <P229> Hendric: "server," I think
[08:41] <Seveas> hi Kyle
[08:41] <boxerboy29> hendric: server
[08:41] <notaction> OK. If I get GCC and stuff like that, the libraries, headers, etc, all come with it?
[08:41] <kbrooks> Seveas: what's up?
[08:41] <p0windah> Seveas: your repos. came through for me. been playing kbattleship with the mrs using your packages nx stuff. cheers
[08:41] <p0windah> packaged, rather
[08:42] <Hendric> aside from server.. like making it a plain client...
[08:42] <CarlFK> any recomendations on a USB based tv tuner?
[08:42] <boxerboy29> seveas: whats the chance of adding a link for the closing of mirrormax backports to the topic?
[08:42] <kbrooks> Hendric: please read the description of server -- it is NOT what you think it is
[08:42] <jdub> Hendric: the 'server' install is just a core system, no desktop, no servers, etc.
[08:42] <hussam> atila_sendil: there is deporphan but it won't list much
[08:43] <Seveas> boxerboy29, nil
[08:43] <boxerboy29> ok just checking
[08:43] <BiSK-8> hello
[08:43] <Seveas> kbrooks, busy rewriting my repo scripts :)
[08:43] <squid0> does anyone know how to get midi working on ubuntu?
[08:43] <atila_sendil> hussam, ty :-)
[08:43] <BiSK-8> is there any software that i can get through atp-get 2 overclock my pc?
[08:43] <kbrooks> I'm rebooting into a GUI now ;)
[08:43] <Hendric> ah... sounds great.. need to do it on an old P1 200MHZ pc ehehe
[08:44] <squid0> yes? no? midi? tea, anyone?
[08:44] <kbrooks> Seveas: will Breezy include GNOME 2.12?
[08:45] <Seveas> it already does
[08:45] <kbrooks> Cool.
[08:45] <Seveas> since 2.12 has been released
[08:45] <kbrooks> grrr.
[08:46] <atila_sendil> Hendric, in fact I am right now installing one 64MB laptop now :-)
[08:46] <scribbles> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[08:46] <scribbles>  <---- what should I use in 5.10, I got that from the 5.04 starter guide
[08:46] <Hendric> in breezy... the menu editor doesn't include application added menus.. how do i edit them?
[08:46] <Hikaru79> Is there away to make a SAMBA share visible only to one certain IP address in the LAN?
[08:47] <squid0> i'm a bit new to this... can you read me at all?
[08:47] <Hikaru79> squid, we can read ya.
[08:47] <squid0> great. thanks, Hikaru
[08:47] <Hikaru79> =)
[08:47] <Hikaru79> What's the problem?
[08:48] <notaction> Maybe a stupid question here, but humour me. Does linux use drive letters?
[08:48] <squid0> i don't know how to get midi to work on ubuntu
[08:48] <darkling> notaction: No.
[08:48] <Plebeuz> anyone can help me? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl
[08:48] <Hikaru79> notaction, not in the sense that windows does.
[08:48] <Hikaru79> Ah, midi.
[08:48] <Hikaru79> squid0, I'll get you a link to a guide.
[08:48] <squid0> yes? <perks up ears>
[08:48] <basvg> hmmm, now it seems that mplayer at least *sees* my dvd... wish I could play it with totem
[08:48] <damo21> notaction: linux uses device nodes instead..  /dev/hda1 = c:
[08:48] <MikkelK> Daaaaamn it takes long time to update to Colony5... ZZZZzzzz...
[08:48] <Hikaru79> squid0, here you go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58859&highlight=midi
[08:49] <Hikaru79> Those steps right there should get you up and running :) They did for me.
[08:49] <squid0> great. thanks, hikaru. i'll have a look now
[08:49] <Hikaru79> ^_^ Kay. If something's not working, ask here.
[08:49] <notaction> Ah, it becomes a little clearer now
[08:49] <damo21> does anyone know if there is a package similar to Cakewalk 8 for linux?
[08:50] <damo21> i'd like to do midi synthesis on ubuntu
[08:51] <atila_sendil> damo21, I got Rosegarden4 but could not yet manage to use it :-(
[08:52] <squid0> okay, will do
[08:53] <squid0> Hikaru, how big are pmidi and timidity? i'm on a capped line...
[08:53] <kbrooks> any ideas?
[08:53] <Hikaru79> squid0, they're fairly small.
[08:53] <squid0> like, less than 4-5M?
[08:53] <kbrooks> so...........
[08:53] <Hikaru79> I'm not on Ubuntu right now, so I can't give you exact sizes, but probably under 10 mb
[08:53] <kbrooks> *reboots*
[08:54] <Hendric> in breezy... the menu editor doesn't include application added menus.. how do i edit them?
[08:54] <Hikaru79> kborokos, what's the problem?
[08:54] <squid0> ok. thanks
[08:54] <kbrooks> bbl
[08:54] <P229> squid0: probably pretty small. and how'd you get stuck with a capped line?
[08:54] <Hikaru79> squid0, if you use Synaptic, it'll tell you the sizes before you download.
[08:54] <squid0> Hikaru, good idea. was about to do so
[08:54] <P229> squid0: pmidi is about 20 K
[08:54] <squid0> p229: by being in the country called South Africa ;)
[08:55] <delire> Hikaru79: No go? ;)
[08:55] <P229> squid0: ah
[08:55] <squid0> p229: gr8. thanks
[08:55] <squid0> it's a beautiful place, but some things... ah... you know... we're a bit behind
[08:55] <Hikaru79> delire, yes! =D
[08:55] <Hikaru79> delire, are you a Go player too? ^^
[08:56] <Davey> should the x86 live cd work on an athlon64 machine? I understood they were 32bit compatible
[08:56] <delire> Hikaru79: sure ;)
[08:56] <Hikaru79> delire, cool :D How strong?
[08:56] <Agrajag> Davey: yes, it will
[08:56] <Davey> Agrajag, and if it doesn't boot on my laptop, what then? :)
[08:56] <delire> Hikaru79: ahh not so strong. the series got me back into it actually ;)
[08:56] <Agrajag> Bett than the 64-bit livecd in my experience
[08:56] <delire> Hikaru79: i might start looking for  club soon.
[08:56] <Davey> Agrajag, it crashes trying at the Gnome loading screen
[08:56] <Hikaru79> delire, I see. What's "not so strong" though? Are you SDK yet?
[08:56] <Agrajag> Then you should find out why it's not booting.
[08:57] <Agrajag> No clue, I don't do laptops.
[08:57] <delire> Hikaru79: i haven't graded myself. casual player.
[08:57] <P229> Davey: why wouldn't it boot on your laptop?
[08:57] <Hikaru79> delire, I see. Want a game?
[08:57] <P229> oh
[08:57] <delire> Hikaru79: but a great series. really enjoyed the seasons i have seen.
[08:57] <kbrooks> Now to upgrade to hoary.
[08:58] <Hikaru79> Indeed it is :)
[08:58] <delire> Hikaru79: hehe not right now, maybe some other time ;)
[08:58] <Hikaru79> Kay ^_^
[08:58] <delire> Hikaru79: work to do!
[08:59] <shawnz> agh
[08:59] <Hikaru79> delire, yeah me too :( I just don't do it =/
[08:59] <shawnz> silly ubuntu maintainers
[08:59] <shawnz> why is the kernel compiled with gcc-3 :/
[08:59] <delire> Hikaru79: ;)
[08:59] <squid0> Hikaru or p229, apt-get says timidity is an 'invalid operation'. i assume that means it's not found in my repositories? or what?
[08:59] <kbrooks> shawnz, do you want everything to be compiled with gcc 4 ?!?
[09:00] <Hikaru79> squid0, can you paste the entire output?
[09:00] <kbrooks> squid0, apt-get timidy
[09:00] <kbrooks> not
[09:00] <kbrooks> squid0, apt-get install timidy
[09:00] <Hikaru79> 'sudo apt-get install timidity'
[09:00] <squid0> urgh, i forgot to put 'install'
[09:00] <squid0> thanks, guys :)
[09:00] <shawnz> kbrooks, well it would help, since thats the gcc i have installed atm.
[09:00] <Hikaru79> Anyone here know there way well with Samba
[09:00] <Hikaru79> ?
[09:00] <Hikaru79> *their
[09:00] <kbrooks> Hikaru79, just ask
[09:00] <Hikaru79> Is there away to make a SAMBA share visible only to one certain IP address in the LAN?
[09:01] <Toba> can anyone suggest an svg viewer for linux?
[09:01] <Hikaru79> So, like, a share should only be visible to <IP_ADDRESS> for example.
[09:01] <basvg> hmm ok , can anyone help met get this dvd stuff to work? I followed the restrictedformats howto, installed totem-xine, the w32codecs etcetera.. but it just won't work. When I put the dvd in the drive I only get a nautifuls window asking if I want to burn anything to the dvd..
[09:01] <Hikaru79> And unaccessible AND invisible to any other.
[09:01] <squid0> gotta love apt! :)
[09:01] <sas171> I reconfgured my monitor to 1024x768@75hz, but he (monitor) did 1024x768@85 at SuSE. How can I set it at Ubuntu?
[09:02] <ratl3> hi, my wireless card crashes the computer now in recent updates to breezy
[09:02] <kbrooks> squid0, apt is magical ;)
[09:02] <Hikaru79> squid0, yup =)
[09:02] <ratl3> should i file a bug?
[09:02] <Hikaru79> rat13, it's breezy =/ It'll probably be fixed pretty soon.
[09:02] <cs_DK> ratl3: yes
[09:03] <Strog> kbrooks: I didn't realize you were here too. I thought I was looking at #archlinux for a second when you were talking. ;-)
[09:03] <ratl3> cs_DK, what should i file in my bug?
[09:03] <kbrooks> Strog: heh.
[09:03] <kbrooks> Strog, i switched back from arch
[09:03] <cs_DK> if you do not know what package causes the bug choose UNKNOWN
[09:03] <kbrooks> strog: ubuntu arch ubuntu
[09:04] <ratl3> it's a prism 2 card
[09:04] <Strog> kbrooks: Arch on the x86 laptop but ubuntu on the powerbook for me
[09:04] <ratl3> ok, i'll just try this out
[09:04] <kbrooks> Strog: ppc?
[09:04] <ratl3> what's the command that shows the kernel you're running?
[09:04] <Strog> yep
[09:04] <kbrooks> Cool.
[09:04] <apsync> hi, this morning, when I woke up, windows was not in my bootloader list anymore , how can I add it manually?
[09:04] <cs_DK> ratl3: 'uname -a'
[09:04] <ratl3> thanks
[09:05] <cs_DK> ratl3: remember to search for duplicates first :-)
[09:05] <ratl3> already have
[09:05] <kbrooks> Should I pick smart upgrade?
[09:05] <squid0> fellows, how big is the Unison soundfont? roughly>?
[09:06] <kbrooks> squid0, are you THAT paranoid about this connection cap?
[09:06] <squid0> yes! :)
[09:06] <basvg> hmmm well gxine seems to do the trick, but it is slow :(
[09:06] <squid0> i share the line with a couple other people, and 2 months ago we were capped halfway through the month. = no internet access for 2 weeks
[09:07] <squid0> it's 3 gig per month
[09:07] <Hikaru79> Ouch, squid0 :'(
[09:07] <kbrooks> squid0, who capped you?
[09:07] <squid0> you're telling me
[09:07] <Hikaru79> squid0, the unison soundfont is about 23 MB. I downloaded it the other day.
[09:07] <squid0> some guy  called 'ISP' ;)
[09:07] <apsync> this morning, when I woke up, windows was not in my bootloader list anymore , how can I add it manually in the list again?
[09:07] <kbrooks> Hikaru79, thats massive
[09:07] <squid0> ok, thanks; that's not too bad
[09:07] <Hikaru79> kbrooks, I didn't create it =/
[09:08] <squid0> kbrooks, well, it's relative, i suppose...
[09:08] <kbrooks> i need to code something up -- a bootup manager for the hell of it
[09:08] <squid0> kbrooks: have fun
[09:08] <kbrooks> but first, hoary. ;)
[09:08] <imc> Aarg. Yesterday someone graciously gave me the command to see what's running on a given tcp port, like 25. Like a ps for ports. Anyone know it?
[09:08] <Hendric> squid0: is ubuntu really happening in your place?
[09:08] <squid0> Hendric: meaning, South Africa?
[09:09] <Hendric> yeah :)
[09:09] <imc> basically the question is: how can I list what's listening or bound to :25??
[09:09] <cs_DK> netstat
[09:09] <Seveas> imc, sudo netstat -tlnp
[09:09] <imc> no that shows everything.
[09:09] <imc> ah
[09:09] <imc> thanks will try that
[09:09] <squid0> ah. well, i actually don't know about the wider community. I'm having loads of fun on it, and i know this developer forum/group that is using it AFAIK.
[09:10] <Strog> apsync: http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu
[09:10] <KJoN> I need help... Geez, I have 4 fat32 partitions, of the same size, but I would like to identify them without running "fdisk -l". Is there a way to label them?
[09:10] <apsync> thanks
[09:11] <Hendric> squid0: Ah ok :0
[09:11] <kbrooks> thats huge -- 854 packages, 15 removed
[09:11] <kbrooks> and i got capped too. :(
[09:12] <squid0> kbrooks: :(
[09:13] <squid0> Hendric: i'm still searching for the Ubuntu SA site for you. haven't found it.
[09:13] <squid0> but Google ubuntu linux south africa
[09:13] <imc> Okay, this isn't working. I'm getting "Bind: Cannot assign requested address" for the fairly straightforward ssh -c blowfish -L 143:localhost:143 -L 25:localhost:25 user server -f -N        I am  able to log in (it asks for and accepts password) then doesn't bind. Anyone know what I am doing wrong?
[09:13] <Krneki> hay
[09:13] <squid0> and anyway, 'Ubuntu', like Mark Shuttleworh, is South African!
[09:13] <Krneki> how do i set mail server on ubuntu
[09:13] <kbrooks> okay
[09:14] <squid0> so it's with pride that we see the world get excited about some SA linux :)
[09:14] <kbrooks> just opened a new terminal, ran apt-get upgrade, said y, typed ctrl+z, bg, and ctrl+d
[09:14] <imc> squid0 and lemme tell you, I'm VERY excited about Ubuntu.
[09:15] <Seveas> The word Ubuntu is south african. Ubuntu/Canonical are European :)
[09:15] <kbrooks> i need to work on the wiki and see if there is any documentation for me to do
[09:15] <squid0> Seveas: fair enough. but Shuttleworth is definitely a SAn
[09:15] <lllmanulll> Hi there, seems that apt-get build-dep fails on any package I try... Any idea what might cause that ?
[09:15] <squid0> Hendric: http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[09:15] <imc> Anyone on my port forwarding woes ?
[09:16] <squid0> imc: great!
[09:17] <kbrooks> I need some X help.
[09:17] <Hendric> squid0: some silly slackers defined ubuntu differently... lol
[09:17] <squid0> Hendric: yes?
[09:17] <squid0> what, on that site?
[09:17] <kbrooks> I am using ... X with no mouse, and have pressed shift+numlock. When I move the cursor (numpad number keys), it does not move as fast as gdm did.
[09:18] <kbrooks> Any ideas?
[09:18] <squid0> well... why no mouse?
[09:18] <Hendric> squid0: found it on a forum.. "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meanng, "i can't configure slackware".
[09:18] <kbrooks> squid0, That isn't really important.
[09:18] <squid0> lol that's a good one
[09:18] <squid0> ok
[09:19] <Krneki> any specialist for mail server please help
[09:19] <kbrooks> Get to the point please. ;)
[09:19] <Burke> Hendric, LOL.
[09:19] <squid0> umm... all i can give you is an educated estimate.
[09:19] <Hendric> silly slackers...
[09:19] <kbrooks> squid0, go on
[09:20] <kbrooks> squid0, well?
[09:20] <squid0> kbrooks: i have very little experience with x, i'm sorry to disappoint you. I'm just offering you my thinking power... i'll do what i can.
[09:20] <squid0> kbrooks: can you describe what the problem is?
[09:20] <kbrooks> squid0, I will try anything to make the cursor be faster.
[09:21] <adjacent> Hendric: thats hilarious actually =)
[09:21] <kbrooks> squid0, I already did.
[09:21] <squid0> right.
[09:21] <squid0> umm... maybe configure your keyboard, for a faster repeat rate on a depressed key?
[09:22] <kbrooks> And how do I do that?
[09:22] <squid0> are you using ubuntu?
[09:22] <kbrooks> Yes.
[09:22] <squid0> ok. System -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[09:23] <squid0> Keyboard tab; play with the sliders
[09:23] <Hendric> can be... "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meaning, "why suffer with slackware?"
[09:23] <squid0> Hendric: but that *is* what it means! ;)
[09:23] <Hendric> hihi
[09:23] <NeverDream> does Breezy come with ndiswrapper?
[09:24] <squid0> kbrooks: any joy?
[09:24] <HappyFool> NeverDream: maybe packages.ubuntu.com will tell you
[09:24] <kbrooks> squid0, Nope, a google search i tried ages ago..erm, got me zero revelant results
[09:24] <NeverDream> HappyFool: thanks :)
[09:25] <squid0> kbrooks: did you try what I said?
[09:25] <Hendric> squid0: oh, doe the website http://www.sun.ac.za/ using the african language?
[09:25] <ryufreak> !info ati
[09:25] <ryufreak> !ati
[09:25] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[09:25] <kbrooks> squid0, Yes.
[09:25] <occy> What is Colony 5?
[09:26] <squid0> Hendric: no, but it is based on a South African university campus (Stellenbosch), and is just to show you some picture of SAns using ubuntu
[09:26] <squid0> kbrooks: :(
[09:26] <HappyFool> occy: a preview release of breezy, i think
[09:27] <occy> ahh
[09:27] <occy> So it's not Breezy final?
[09:27] <HappyFool> no; that will be released october 13, or thereabouts
[09:27] <cs_DK> Colony 5 is built after Breezy Preview, its newer
[09:27] <occy> topic says it's out, but official release will be october 13
[09:27] <occy> ahh
[09:27] <occy> okies, sorry, just confusing for my wee tiny brain
[09:28] <occy> come on October 13th!!!
[09:28] <delire> Hendric: ;)
[09:28] <twysted> hey squid0 having problems again?
[09:28] <Hendric> delire: yaps?
[09:28] <occy> can't wait to get the new Gnome 2.12
[09:29] <cs_DK> too bad that Breezy freezes my mouse
 can be... "ubuntu" is an ancient african word meaning, "why suffer with slackware?"
[09:29] <cs_DK> because of the new kernel
[09:29] <kbrooks> Does ubuntu have builtin quota ... handling?
[09:29] <squid0> hey twysted. not really problems, i've been helped well
[09:29] <twysted> cool :)
[09:29] <La_PaRCa> Hey guys, can anyone paste the sources.list that comes default with breezy?
[09:30] <Hendric> delire: revised it for some silly slackers, lol :D
[09:30] <delire> Hendric: ;)
[09:30] <squid0> it is. what a great resource! help and be helped (or try )
[09:31] <delire> squid0: there's faith for humanity yet... ;)
[09:31] <squid0> delire: well, i like to think so :)
[09:31] <danwsb> Hi, I'm having trouble with remote printing to CUPS on an ubuntu box. My cupsd.conf was working properly until this morning. Now I just get errors from pam_authenticate indicating an authentication failure.
[09:31] <delire> squid0: have you seen #infinite-wealth ?
[09:31] <delire> also a great channel. plenty of help in there.
[09:31] <squid0> delire: no, what's it about
[09:32] <n00bster> i'm looking for a system restore utilitie, similar to that one in win (restore)
[09:32] <esac> i installed w32codecs but there seems to be some .wmv files that still don't play, any ideas ?
[09:32] <kbrooks> n00bster, backups are system restore
[09:33] <twysted> n00bster, backups, there is some software out there but it costs alot of money and isnt ment for home use :)
[09:33] <n00bster> can you expand on that?
[09:33] <ompaul> random sig 11
[09:33] <esac> ^^ those files claim they are asf
[09:33] <squid0> delire: my, that channel's too busy for me
[09:33] <Paradoxx> how stable is breez atm
[09:33] <twysted> so its just easyer to make manual backups of your files to cd or dvd
[09:33] <Huey> where are the startup scripts stored for certain sessions when a user logs in via gdm?
[09:33] <kbrooks> Paradoxx, not stable. wait.
[09:34] <twysted> Paradoxx, its still in testing
[09:34] <n00bster> i see, so is there en ekwivilent software to "Norton Ghost"
[09:34] <Huey> and is there a way for a user to change these settings without root access?
[09:34] <delire> squid0: ;)
[09:34] <Paradoxx> how stable is breezy atm?
[09:34] <FrdPrefct> works great for me
[09:34] <twysted> its not stable paradoxx
[09:34] <funkyHat> for me - stable as a tree
[09:34] <delire> n00bster: i use system-imager
[09:34] <twysted> its still in testing
[09:35] <twysted> so quit asking, just wait
[09:35] <esac> Paradoxx: you could get lucky like me and its very stable, but others have a few issues
[09:35] <funkyHat> but i've tweaked a lot
[09:35] <Hendric> n00bster: better use the win version on a bootable diskette.. works with linux as well
[09:35] <n00bster> i see.. i wonder it nortoon ghost works on ext3 partitions
[09:35] <funkyHat> it's not worth upgrading unless you know enough, or don't mind it being broken
[09:35] <esac> that's true, ive tweaked a lot too. running a custom kernel to prevent it from freezing on reboot
[09:35] <ompaul> Paradoxx, I am having issues - if you can't take any pain wait until 13th October
[09:35] <funkyHat> (for me it was a bit of both ;))
[09:35] <Paradoxx> twysted:  i understand its still in testing...jeez, but the nature of my question recognises that, and asks how useable it is..
[09:35] <ompaul> Paradoxx, if you can't take risk wait
[09:35] <n00bster> what windows vertion ?
[09:36] <Paradoxx> twysted: particularly, since they now have it on there site as a pre-release...
[09:36] <n00bster> norton ghost works on linux ?
[09:36] <ionrock> Paradoxx, I think you question makes sense but without knowing what you are using it for makes it hard to answer
[09:36] <Hendric> n00bster: the old one... 7 i think
[09:36] <ompaul> Paradoxx, which indicates not release
[09:36] <delire> n00bster: but it's a client server setup. there are many backup/restore utilities. just 'apt-cache search backup restore' and 'apt-cache show <packagename>' to read about each.
[09:36] <n00bster> mm... grate !! i got it :}
[09:37] <Hendric> n00bster: you boot on a dos format floppy and ghost from there.
[09:37] <Paradoxx> ompaul: you can get a prerelease of a music cd, and that just means you get it b4, its set release date..
[09:37] <twysted> Paradoxx this isnt like a cd
[09:37] <twysted> its still being developed
[09:37] <Hendric> n00bster: only the cloned drive won't boot and shows up "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB"
[09:37] <n00bster> yah, like i do in win
[09:37] <Paradoxx> *sigh*, its an anology..
[09:37] <ionrock> Paradoxx, I would assume you plan on using it for general desktop tasks on a desktop machine. I had been using it on laptop and had few problems. but I also didn't mind it breaking and reinstalling
[09:37] <ompaul> Paradoxx, you get prerelease software it aint ready for the general public there are tasks to be done
[09:37] <n00bster> what do you mean ?
[09:38] <Hendric> n00bster: so better boot on your ubuntu CD, type: rescue then grub-intsall /dev/hda to fix it
[09:38] <Davey> why the hell are the ndiswrappers not included on the damn LiveCD? :/
[09:38] <ionrock> ompaul, one could argue that folks in irc aren't really general public users ;)
[09:38] <Hendric> *grub-install
[09:38] <ompaul> Paradoxx, _and_ I said if you can take a little pain go for it- if you can't don't as for what level of pain that depends on your luck
[09:38] <Paradoxx> the concept can go eitherway, i'm just used to that type of s/w being called alph or beta builds...
[09:39] <squid0> the Union soundfont takes ages. i think the server is clogged. any alternatives, perhaps?
[09:39] <twysted> Paradoxx, its a beta then ;)
[09:39] <n00bster> Hendric, i lost you there about GRUB.. can you recap?
[09:39] <Trash[sleep] > paradoxx: you've clearly never been on a development team
[09:39] <ompaul> ionrock, being on irc does not indicate clue - sure, I'm, here :)
[09:39] <Paradoxx> yea, its not for me, and friend of mine gonna try linux, and he asked which version he should get, as both links are there, i was surprised to see they have it there as a prerelease, cause i know its still undertesting..
[09:39] <n00bster> you ware saing that i can use en older dos based ghoste?
[09:40] <twysted> paradoxx just get the official release your friend will be happy with it :)
[09:40] <Trashcan> software that isn't marked as 'stable' probably isn't
[09:40] <Paradoxx> thats  what i told him
[09:40] <ompaul> Paradoxx, here is what you do give them 5.04 hoary and then they can learn all about distupgrade on the day
[09:40] <Trashcan> is this discussion over breezy/hedgehog?
[09:40] <Paradoxx> then  u figured i'd just pop over here, and ask how the devewas going..
[09:41] <Paradoxx> dev was*
[09:41] <Hendric> n00bster: when you ghost a linux drive (using any ghost version that supports linux partitions), the cloned drives boot loader is messed up. so you need to rescue it, inorder to fix the boot error on the new cloned drive.
[09:41] <bartp> hi
[09:41] <Trashcan> I'm not speaking for the devs, but afaik breezy is mostly small bugs and incompatibilities at this point
[09:41] <Trashcan> hey bart
[09:41] <ompaul> what are the properties of the logon screen setup program?
[09:41] <kbrooks> "The emulated movement is *very* slow, but you can increase its speed considerably by pressing any other key while moving. "
[09:42] <bartp> hi Trashcan
[09:42] <Paradoxx> i haven't had time to test brezy myself, so i wasn't sure where it was, and thus my question about how stable it was..
[09:42] <Trashcan> ahh well that's a valid question
[09:42] <n00bster> and i do that from ubuntu CD ?
[09:42] <Mazrim> hi all
[09:42] <twysted> n00bster, yes
[09:42] <Mazrim> I have a problem
[09:42] <Paradoxx> Mazrim: just ask :P
[09:42] <Trashcan> Assuming he doesn't know his way around a linux box too well, he probably doens't want to be tracking down problems when his network card doesn't work, etc.
[09:42] <kbrooks> grrr.
[09:42] <n00bster> ok, i undertand :}
[09:42] <Hendric> n00bster: yes you rescue from the ubuntu CD.
[09:43] <n00bster> ok, i undertand :}
[09:43] <Paradoxx> Trashcan: yep yep..
[09:43] <Trashcan> but to answer your question, breezy is fairly complete functionality wise
[09:43] <ray4jc> Does the Default Ubuntu Partitioning work?
[09:43] <thrice`> where is w32codecs residing these days ?
[09:44] <Trashcan> I havn't noticed any real problems as of yet
[09:44] <n00bster> if we'r talking about GRUB, i want to disable the 8 second ttl screen, how can i do it?
[09:44] <funkyHat> !restrictedformats
[09:44] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:44] <funkyHat> thrice`, ^there
[09:44] <ray4jc> It has no boot partition,
[09:44] <thrice`> funkyHat, ah, ok; I noticed the origial mirror was removed
[09:45] <Mazrim> Paradoxx: I have just updated to Breezy, and I have 1 update that won't work, linuximagesomthing
[09:45] <funkyHat> i don't know, i got it from backports and my policy was disable backports immediately after installing from it
[09:45] <funkyHat> and now i'm on breezy, so no backports
[09:45] <n00bster> if we'r talking about GRUB, i want to disable the 8 second limitationm to chuse a system (dual boot)
[09:45] <Mazrim> it throws an error about ndiswrapper
[09:45] <Mazrim> and not being able to be overwritten
[09:46] <funkyHat> n00bster, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the wait to... um... possibly -1
[09:46] <funkyHat> it will probably tell you what to change it to
[09:46] <ompaul> funkyHat,  there can't be any until dapper gets under development
[09:46] <funkyHat> i'm not bothered ompaul :)
[09:47] <ompaul> funkyHat,  just an explaination, the backports for hoary are from breezy
[09:47] <funkyHat> no backports isn't an issue
[09:47] <funkyHat> yeah :)
[09:47] <n00bster> ok, tty, i'll tray it.
[09:47] <n00bster> ty*
[09:48] <tehwizard> heya, anyone had luck doing apt-get dist-upgrade to switch to breezy?
[09:48] <Paradoxx> Mazrim: you should probably try a apt-get dis-upgrade
[09:48] <Paradoxx> and see if that fixes the issues
[09:48] <Paradoxx> also, as stated awhile ago, you should also disable backports if you have it enabled...
[09:49] <funkyHat> tehwizard, yes. i'm generally a very lucky person though, i wouldn't recommend it ;)
[09:49] <funkyHat> until breezy is released
[09:49] <funkyHat> c'mon, it's 2 weeks, just wait :P
[09:49] <Seveas> But it's so much fun :)
[09:49] <tehwizard> lol right on... well, I did it, and I've got a few problems... surprise :-P
[09:49] <funkyHat> hehehehe
[09:50] <tehwizard> what? wait? what's that??
[09:50] <funkyHat> i only got problems with some of the new packages (like beagle)
[09:50] <rukuartic> anyone know how to edit your MAC address?
[09:50] <delire> rukuartic: for a wifi device?
[09:51] <n00bster> is it that line on GRUB "timeout		10"
[09:51] <grgcsmc> how do i log in as root?
[09:51] <Trashcan> sudo -i
[09:51] <Trashcan> !root
[09:51] <ubotu> from memory, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:52] <grgcsmc> how do i install gnome files?
[09:52] <grgcsmc> gnome-sudoku
[09:52] <Trashcan> who asked abotu the mac addr
[09:52] <Mazrim> dis-upgrade - Invalid OPeration dis upgrade
[09:52] <Trashcan> /etc/init.d/networking stop
[09:52] <rukuartic> delire: exactly. why bother encryptiong when you can just run selective MAC?
[09:52] <Trashcan> ifconfig etho0 hw ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[09:52] <Trashcan> /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:52] <delire> just use ifconfig rukuartic
[09:52] <tehwizard> I need to compile custom kernel modules for my wireless, and for whatever reason it's saying /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.
[09:52] <MikkelK> I really like the graphical boot sequence Fedora has. Is there a way to get something similar for Ubuntu?
[09:53] <delire> rukuartic: set it up per session in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:53] <rukuartic> delire: Ah, so ipconfig is much better than the windows version...
[09:53] <tehwizard> I've tried reinstalling linux-kernel-headers and stuff, but not working
[09:53] <tehwizard> anyone got a suggestion?
[09:53] <Trashcan> yeah rukuartic
[09:53] <Trashcan> ifconfig is actually useful now
[09:53] <delire> rukuartic: sorry, set it up per session or permanently in /etc/network/interfaces.
[09:53] <Trashcan> (note it's ifconfig, not ipconfig)
[09:53] <rukuartic> Awesome
[09:53] <rukuartic> h/u brb...
[09:53] <rukuartic> oh, thanks Trashcan
[09:53] <twysted> !bootsplash
[09:53] <delire> rukuartic: ifconfig is powerfull, iwconfig also.
[09:53] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, twysted
[09:54] <funkyHat> twysted, what do you want to know about the splash screen?
[09:54] <funkyHat> !usplash
[09:54] <ubotu> somebody said usplash was in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[09:54] <Trashcan> grahpic boot
[09:54] <Trashcan> graphic*
[09:54] <twysted> trying to point MikkelK in the right direction
[09:54] <cs_DK> !usplash
[09:54] <funkyHat> cs_DK, ^
[09:54] <MikkelK> :O
[09:55] <n00bster> is the GRUB menu.lst line that i need to edit is  "timeout  10" ?? and if what number reprisent disabl timeout ?
[09:55] <Seveas> n00bster, timeout 0 would disable it
[09:55] <Snark> where do I report bugs on universe packages ?
[09:55] <Seveas> Snark, launchpad.net/malone
[09:55] <Vengeful> hi again
[09:55] <Mazrim> ok ready Paradoxx, heres the error linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb
[09:55] <Mazrim>  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:56] <ompaul> n00bster, I suggest you leave a second or two in there there - so you can press esc if you need to go into rescue mode
[09:56] <Mazrim> and how do you disable backport?
[09:56] <kevogod> Has anyone played America's Army?
[09:56] <kevogod> (on Ubuntu)
[09:56] <Vengeful> yes..never in linux though :-)
[09:56] <Vengeful> hehe
[09:56] <funkyHat> n00bster, are you trying to disable it, so that the selected option will boot immediately, or so that it will wait indefinitely?
[09:56] <Mazrim> !backport
[09:56] <ubotu> backport is, like, see !backports
[09:56] <MikkelK> twysted, damn that looks complicated
[09:56] <Vengeful> linux is not for gamers...few years off yet :-)
[09:56] <Mazrim> !backports
[09:56] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[09:56] <Snark> Seveas: hmmm...
[09:56] <rukuartic-away> right, awesome. thanks everyone.
[09:57] <Chinaman> can anyone help me with an RAR file?
[09:57] <Chinaman> i have 5 RAR files
[09:57] <Seveas> Chinaman, apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[09:57] <Chinaman> in windows they open as one file
[09:57] <Seveas> unrar x filename.rar
[09:57] <funkyHat> MikkelK, what's complicated about it?
[09:57] <funkyHat> you just apt-get install it, and it works
[09:57] <delire> Vengeful: i play plenty of games in Linux, uncluding windows games.
[09:57] <LasseL> Mazrim, go into the Settings > Repositories menu in synaptic
[09:57] <n00bster> so that it will wait indefinitely !
[09:57] <Vengeful> yes but why?
[09:57] <funkyHat> i thought so
[09:58] <Mazrim> ok
[09:58] <Mazrim> thank you
[09:58] <Vengeful> why go to so much trouble?
[09:58] <grgcsmc> where is the command line
[09:58] <delire> Vengeful: i haven't run windows in around 8 years and don't intend to.
[09:58] <funkyHat> n00bster, there will probably be instructions in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on how to do that
[09:58] <Mazrim> any thoughts on my problem? also, it says dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:58] <Mazrim>  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386
[09:58] <Mazrim> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:58] <Mazrim> sry about the paste
[09:58] <Vengeful> never hurts to have a comp with windows on for certain mmorpg....and any other game is covered by a console
[09:58] <n00bster> funkyHat - so that it will wait indefinitely !
[09:58] <Vengeful> id like to think linux is good for gamers...but it is a few years off
[09:59] <n00bster> ty, i'll look for that .
[09:59] <Vengeful> i would love it if it was true...but it's not
[09:59] <twysted> Vengeful there are plenty of games that now run on linux or can be emulated to run on linux, linux gamers exist
[09:59] <[LethAL] > Vengeful, I'm one of them
[09:59] <grgcsmc> where is the command line?
[09:59] <[LethAL] > :D
[09:59] <twysted> i was too when i played games
[09:59] <MikkelK> funkyHat, okay, it just looked complicated at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[09:59] <[LethAL] > twysted, Yeah, I've come off them somewhat as well
[09:59] <Chinaman> seveas: thx
[10:00] <Seveas> Mazrim, yeah, get rid of ndiswrapper-modules-*
[10:00] <Seveas> and don't paste in here
[10:00] <twysted> when i come around ill prolly reinstall linux again but not until i quit this job hehe
[10:00] <funkyHat> MikkelK, ahh, ok
[10:00] <Mazrim> Seveas: unistall or just delete from cache
[10:00] <Vengeful> oh of course you can get them working...i used to play CS in mandrake hehe
[10:01] <Vengeful> i just dont see the point
[10:01] <Seveas> Mazrim, uninstall
[10:01] <Vengeful> when its obvious to many game makers wont support it :-)
[10:01] <Seveas> Vengeful and others, please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this a support channel
[10:01] <twysted> hehe
[10:01] <Vengeful> ah sorry ;-)
[10:01] <delire> Vengeful: Linux just needs more forward thinking developers like John Carmack, Rockstar games and bioware.
[10:02] <Vengeful> oh i know
[10:02] <Vengeful> its just some years off
[10:02] <Seveas> delire, you too
[10:02] <delire> Seveas: fair enough..
[10:02] <twysted> guys
[10:02] <[LethAL] > Seveas, you wouldn't happen to know why it would appear that tor exit nodes are banned, would you?
[10:02] <Seveas> [LethAL] , abuse overdoes
[10:02] <Seveas> overdose*
[10:02] <LasseL> delire, will GTA run on linux?
[10:02] <Trashcan> hey seveas :)
[10:02] <Seveas> hey garbage
[10:02] <Mazrim> Seveas: but then no wi-fi?
[10:02] <Trashcan> :9
[10:02] <Trashcan> :(
[10:03] <[LethAL] > Seveas, Surely there are much better ways though...
[10:03] <twysted> Lassel, yes with winex
[10:03] <Snark> bug filed
[10:03] <Seveas> Mazrim, linux-restricted-modules contains ndiswrapper too
[10:03] <Snark> thanks
[10:03] <Snark> ciao
[10:03] <Mazrim> oh
[10:03] <Mazrim> ok, thank you
[10:03] <oris_wolfbane> hey guys, whats the path to qt?
[10:03] <dell500> for some reason from switching over to gnome from kde, i've lost my Documents folder on my desktop.....
[10:04] <Seveas> oris_wolfbane, that question makes no sense without context...
[10:04] <dell500> could that happen?
[10:04] <[LethAL] > dell500, Highly unlikely...
[10:04] <drunken-wallaby> hi everyone...
[10:04] <twysted> hey dell500
[10:04] <twysted> what happend when you loaded kde? where they there?
[10:05] <oris_wolfbane> im compiling somthing and it cant find qt
[10:05] <oris_wolfbane> but says to use ./configure --with-qt-dir
[10:05] <dell500> twysted, ya they were
[10:05] <twysted> ok do this dell500
[10:05] <twysted> copy that documents folder right into your home directory
[10:05] <Seveas> oris_wolfbane, what are you compiling?
[10:06] <dell500> I mean i have 4 folders on my desktop, Pictures, New Torrents, and Ripped CDs, and Documents
[10:06] <twysted> ok move those into your home directory then
[10:06] <oris_wolfbane> GoFun
[10:06] <dell500> twysted, i'm confused, it's no where to be found
[10:06] <dell500> the folder that is
[10:06] <twysted> youll have to do this in KDE
[10:07] <tehwizard> oris_wolfbane, open synaptic and search for 'libqt'
[10:07] <drunken-wallaby> got a little problem when i try to build a little latex-gui called amyedit (amyedit.sourceforge.net). the "make" step breaks because of errors such as (/usr/include/libintl.h:40: Error: expected unqualified-id before "const"). Anyone who has a hint what I could do?
[10:07] <tehwizard> see if you've got libqt installed
[10:07] <dell500> twysted, what if i can't get in kde? :(
[10:07] <Seveas> oris_wolfbane, install the kdelibs4-dev and kdebase-dev packages
[10:07] <dell500> with the xorg config i have now
[10:07] <oris_wolfbane> thanks
[10:07] <Seveas> drunken-wallaby, that software is broken, file a bug at the developers that it won't compile :)
[10:08] <Vengeful> more linux in general than ubuntu...gaim is kinda...erm..ugly. amsn is kinda ..hmm...crashy
[10:08] <twysted> dell500, you should have an option too, even in gnome you can set it to change GDM to load into kde instead of gnome
[10:08] <Vengeful> whatcha recommend?
[10:08] <twysted> gaim
[10:08] <Vengeful> tis ugly though
[10:09] <Seveas> Vengeful, MSN7 + wine ;)
[10:09] <twysted> hehe
[10:09] <delire> oris_wolfbane: once libqt is installed, run 'sudo ldconfig' then 'whereis <qtpackagename>' choose the lib path, and use --configure --with-qt-dir=/path/to/qtlibs
[10:09] <Vengeful> ergh
[10:09] <Vengeful> never
[10:09] <dell500> twysted, the login screen setup?
[10:09] <twysted> dell500 yes
[10:09] <kbrooks> Seveas, i have a game on cd. but its win32 only :'(
[10:09] <Seveas> kbrooks, try if it works with wine ;)
[10:09] <twysted> kbrooks you can use wine :)
[10:09] <[LethAL] > Vengeful, you won't get MSN 7.5
[10:10] <Vengeful> btw....curious if anyone uses ubuntu for servers?
[10:10] <kbrooks> Seveas, cant install it now
[10:10] <delire> oris_wolfbane: you will need to grab the -dev packages as the compilation process relies on 'header files' being on board.
[10:10] <twysted> vengeful i do
[10:10] <Vengeful> oh?
[10:10] <Seveas> Vengeful, I have ~30 servers running Ubuntu :)
[10:10] <Karnivore> do you guys know about the wu-2.6.2 exploit? actually I think thats just for RedHat
[10:10] <flickerfly|home> Is there a known issue with firefox starting, but not showing on the screen? I have uninstalled and reinstalled firefox with no change. epiphany seems to have worked.
[10:10] <[LethAL] > Vengeful, I'd recommend Debian Stable
[10:10] <Kirsch> hey guys, any idea on the ATI Mobility driver with Breezy?
[10:10] <Vengeful> how does it do?
[10:10] <Vengeful> ah..hmm..
[10:10] <tehwizard> so dudes, got a support question for anyone familiar with breezy... (i did a dist-upgrade). I need to compile custom kernel modules for my wireless, and for whatever reason it's saying "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory." I had previously compiled them fine for hoary. I've re-installed linux-kernel-headers, but no go. anybody got a suggestion for me? why would compiling break when I upgraded to breezy?
[10:10] <twysted> it does well :)
[10:10] <Vengeful> currently only offer freebsd and centos
[10:10] <Seveas> Karnivore, not by heart, CVE reference?
[10:11] <Seveas> Ubuntu works very nice on servers
[10:11] <Karnivore> Here's the link to it http://www.governmentsecurity.org/archive/t6358.html