[17:51] <zmoylan-pi> we had a new blow in on friday.  a dutch national down in cork. scratchy i think was the handle
[19:01] <greyback> hi, I guess I'd be considered a blow-in then too :) I'm Gerry, Ubuntu developer, working in Dublin
[19:02] <greyback> someone reminded me this channel existed last week, so thought I'd (re)join
[19:02] <zmoylan-pi> hi
[19:02] <zmoylan-pi> has been quiet as of late
[19:03] <greyback> no worries
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> most of the linux action is on ilug's irc channel
[19:03] <greyback> hmm
[19:03]  * greyback goes googling
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> #linux irc.linue.ie iirc
[19:03] <zmoylan-pi> irc.linux.ie
[19:05] <greyback> and I am there, thank you
[19:06] <greyback> no SSL tho, hrmph
[19:06] <zmoylan-pi> tis an old server i think
[19:06] <zmoylan-pi> as in we installed from a stack of floppies :-)
[19:09] <greyback> if it works, don't touch it


[13:35] <fbxxkl_> Hi everyone.  Trying to set up my wireless card but its a bit confusing
[13:35] <fbxxkl_> anyone have experience with this?
[13:37] <jussi> fbxxkl_: tell us more about what you have done, which wireless card etc and we can see if we can help you.
[13:37] <fbxxkl_> Ok.  I installed Ubuntu-Studio 10.4
[13:38] <fbxxkl_> I have a ralink wireless card.  and when I checked in terminal to see if it was installed it showed up with drivers
[13:38] <fbxxkl_> So i go to System -> Administration -> network and I see wlan0
[13:38] <fbxxkl_> network tools*
[13:38] <fbxxkl_> But I have no options to connect to my wireless network right now
[13:39] <fbxxkl_> and I put the icon in my panel for usage like that and it doesn't show the wireless card it only shows lo and eth0
[13:41] <fbxxkl_> "Network controller" "RaLink" "RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI" "RaLink" "Device 2561"
[13:42] <jussi> ok, are you familiar with the terminal at all?
[13:43] <jussi> is it listed when you do:  ifconfig
[13:43] <jussi> ?
[13:43] <jussi> and do you have wired networking where you are at the moment
[13:43] <jussi> fbxxkl_: ^^
[13:44] <fbxxkl_> Ill check
[13:44] <fbxxkl_> yess
[13:44] <fbxxkl_> I am connected via wired
[13:44] <fbxxkl_> at the moment but its a big yellow cord going through my living room which is why I am trying to switch to my wireless card.
[13:45] <fbxxkl_> And to clarify I have used my wireless card with regular ubuntu 9.10/10.4 before
[13:45] <fbxxkl_> So I know it "Should" work
[13:45] <fbxxkl_> ok I did if config
[13:45] <fbxxkl_> ifconfig* and it does not show up there
[13:46] <fbxxkl_> I get my loopback and my standard ethernet
[13:47] <fbxxkl_> ok i did ifconfig -a and it shows up
[13:47] <fbxxkl_> jussi: ^^
[13:48] <jussi> ok
[13:48] <jussi> do you have networkmanager-gnome installed?
[13:48] <jussi> !infor networkmanager-gnome
[13:48] <jussi> !info networkmanager-gnome
[13:49] <jussi> !info network-manager-gnome
[13:49] <fbxxkl_> hmm
[13:49] <fbxxkl_> good question
[13:49] <fbxxkl_> I don't think i do.  Isn't that something that should come standard??
[13:50] <fbxxkl_> Ok I am installing it.  I assume that should resolve any gui issues I have connected my wireless device
[13:50] <jussi> no, its not installed in ubuntustudio by default as it can affect latency (so best to turn it off if you are doing stuff with jack)
[13:50] <jussi> hopefully...
[13:51] <jussi> you may need to start it with alt+f2 -> nm-applet
[13:51] <fbxxkl_> what is jack?  I am new to ubuntu-studio mostly used mac's/and windows pc's in the past
[13:51] <jussi> !info jack
[13:51] <jussi> no...
[13:51] <jussi> !find jack
[13:51] <jussi> hang on
[13:52] <fbxxkl_> heh lot of jack's :P
[13:52] <jussi> !info jackd
[13:52] <jussi> :)
[13:52] <fbxxkl_> interesting.
[13:53] <AutoStatic> It's a sound daemon
[13:54] <AutoStatic> Like PulseAudio
[13:54] <fbxxkl_> Ah
[13:54] <fbxxkl_> Yea the whole sound thing on Ubuntu really confuses me like alsa and oss
[13:54] <fbxxkl_> well linux in general I haven't quite grasped that yet
[13:54] <jussi> sound in ubuntu is very confusing :P
[13:54] <AutoStatic> ALSA and OSS are driver stacks
[13:54] <jussi> anyway, Im of fhome!
[13:55] <jussi> laters all
[13:55] <fbxxkl_> thanks for all your help jussi
[13:55] <AutoStatic> PulseAudio and JACK sit on top of that
[13:55] <jussi> no probs
[13:55] <fbxxkl_> so the sound daemon is what controls the driver stacks?
[13:56] <AutoStatic> When it comes to mixing yes
[13:56] <AutoStatic> But this is specifically the case for PulseAudio
[13:56] <fbxxkl_> So what would an equivelent be in say Windows or OSX?
[13:57] <fbxxkl_> if there is one
[13:57] <AutoStatic> Basically a sound daemons allows for multiple apps to play sound simultanuously
[13:57] <fbxxkl_> Ah ok
[13:57] <AutoStatic> JACK=ASIO+Rewire
[13:57] <AutoStatic> PulseAudio is like the 'consumer' daemon
[13:58] <fbxxkl_> could you say its the 'default' or 'generic' daemon?
[13:58] <AutoStatic> Yes, PulseAudio is the default in Ubuntu
[13:59] <fbxxkl_> ah ok
[13:59] <AutoStatic> Because it's better suited for desktop use
[13:59] <fbxxkl_> ps. this is why i love linux/ubuntu users because getting this out of some people for another OS would be like pulling teeth but everyone who works with linux/ubuntu is so helpful
[14:00] <AutoStatic> :)
[14:00] <fbxxkl_> ok I installed some updates brb while i restart
[14:05] <fbxxkl> Well that stinks now I got an error with my video card when I restarted
[14:39] <unodelchat> Hola
[14:43] <rlameiro> ubottu: hola
[14:44] <rlameiro> unodelchat:hola
[14:44] <unodelchat> you speak spanish ?
[14:44] <rlameiro> yes
[14:45] <unodelchat> que lastima que mi targeta de sonido no funcione en linux
[14:45] <rlameiro> que tarjeta es?
[14:45] <unodelchat> creamware
[14:46] <rlameiro> huh?
[14:46] <rlameiro> never ear of that
[14:47] <unodelchat> sabes algo de Ndiswrapper ?
[14:47] <rlameiro> no
[14:47] <unodelchat> Ndiswrapper es solo para drivers de wifi ?
[14:47] <rlameiro> pero me parece que es mas para wifi
[14:48] <unodelchat> es posible que como no conocen el resto de marcas de targetas de sonido se piensen que lo unico que faltan drivers son los de wifi
[14:51] <unodelchat> Ndiswrapper can be a solution for those not compatible sound card ?
[14:51] <unodelchat> help
[14:52] <rlameiro> unodelchat: i dont think so, because it needs to integrate with alsa
[14:52] <rlameiro> is it external usb?
 which sound card you have ?
[14:53] <unodelchat> is PCI
[14:53] <rlameiro> well, then even worse
[14:53] <rlameiro> but you should try it
[14:54] <unodelchat>  <rlameiro> which sound card you have ?
[14:55] <rlameiro> i have 3 actually
[14:55] <rlameiro> a ua-4fx, FA-101 and the onboard crappy and bad intel hda onboard
[14:55] <rlameiro> ua-4fx is a usb one, the fa-101 is firewire


[18:01] <lfaraone> So I'm trying to debug launchpad bug 1246384 , which I encountered on doing an upgrade from 12.04 with HWE to trusty. The issue is that it appears that /usr/lib/xorg/protocol.txt was updated by another package after it was diverted, and when the diverting package is removed it attempts to undivert.
[18:02] <lfaraone> Is that perhaps because a newer xorg package was Replaces: xorg-server-lts-raring and overwrote the file without checking if it was diverted?
[20:15] <tomreyn> flash player tells me this - should i care, and is this file packaged in a PPA?
[20:15] <tomreyn> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r300.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[20:16] <tomreyn> the filename search on packages.ubuntu.com doesn't know about it


[06:07] <solarbaby> anyone know if that python script that lets the xbox connect to mythtv as a frontend, anyone know if it works?
[06:08] <solarbaby> how could you live with just 5 games? my xbox has 14 thousand ;)
[06:09] <solarbaby> I can't imagine i'll play many of those old comodore 64 games again, but just having them and loading them from time to time is a really blast from the past
[06:09] <tgm4883> omg! alt+F4 = space
[06:10] <solarbaby> uh uh
[06:11] <solarbaby> Wow hold down the power button for 5 seconds and you get free ring tones~!
[06:11] <tgm4883> sweet
[06:11] <solarbaby> heheh
[08:04] <camelreef> morning all
[08:05] <MitoTranin> morning
[08:05] <camelreef> laga, still online ?
[08:06] <camelreef> oh well...
[09:55] <MythbuntuGuest21> got a problem
[09:55] <MythbuntuGuest21> I need to setup my program guide but dont know how
[09:56] <MythbuntuGuest21> can someone help me?
[09:58] <MythbuntuGuest08> anyone here?
[09:58] <MythbuntuGuest08> I need help
[09:59] <directhex|work> state your problem and if someone's awake, they might answer
[09:59] <MythbuntuGuest08> I need to setup my program guide on mythtv
[10:00] <MythbuntuGuest08> all of my channels I get say "adding channel 2" for example
[10:00] <DaveMorris> how are you getting the chanel guide data?
[10:00] <MythbuntuGuest08> I am not
[10:00] <MythbuntuGuest08> I need to know how
[10:01] <DaveMorris> where do you live?
[10:01] <MythbuntuGuest08> I just scan the channels and started watching tv
[10:01] <MythbuntuGuest08> us
[10:01] <MythbuntuGuest08> houston texas to be exact
[10:01] <directhex|work> DaveMorris, maybe mythtv-setup needs to force wizard-style use. everyone seems to ignore the middle steps
[10:02] <MythbuntuGuest08> I thought I followed all the steps
[10:03] <DaveMorris> I'm not sure if they have EIT over there, otherwise you need to use schedules direct.
[10:03] <directhex|work> step 3 is where you set up guide data. what did you pick?
[10:03] <MythbuntuGuest08> schedules direct
[10:04] <DaveMorris> I'm afraid I know nothing about schedules direct
[10:04] <MythbuntuGuest08> ok
[10:04] <DaveMorris> I however know you need to have paid for an account
[10:04] <directhex|work> nor i. wait until the americans are awake. and ask in #mythtv-users instead - you'll get more response, and your problem isn't ubuntu related
[10:05] <directhex|work> DaveMorris, there's a 7 day trial, at least whilst getting things working
[10:05] <DaveMorris> oh, shows how much I know ;)
[10:05] <DaveMorris> I best start work now though
[10:07] <MythbuntuGuest08> thanks for the try at helping
[10:11] <MythbuntuGuest08> they want you to pay to get the listings
[10:15] <directhex|work> there are 2 (if memory serves) companies in the US which generate listings data
[10:15] <directhex|work> they charge an obscene sum of money for their data
[10:16] <MythbuntuGuest08> yeah
[10:16] <MythbuntuGuest08> it is insane
[10:16] <directhex|work> there are a number of resellers of the data, who charge a low fee for a subscription to the listings data
[10:17] <directhex|work> and larger companies place a version of the data on web pages, but those are difficult to extract data from (and it's usually a violation of the t&c to do so)
[10:28] <DaveMorris> I though schedules direct was only around $7 a year
[10:29] <DaveMorris> sorry $20 a year
[10:29] <DaveMorris> thats still very cheap imo
[10:29] <directhex|work> DaveMorris, that's almost three pints! :o
[10:30] <DaveMorris> around 80p a month
[10:30] <DaveMorris> how much did a copy of radio times you used to buy a wek/month cost?
[10:31] <directhex|work> RT is about 70p i think
[10:31] <directhex|work> a week
[10:31] <DaveMorris> personally I just use the transmitted one here in the UK
[10:36] <directhex|work> i just switched from EIT to RT
[10:37] <DaveMorris> I did use RT but it screwed up my db badly once, never went back
[11:35] <laga> re
[11:35] <laga> mcc rocks
[11:35] <laga> :)
[01:45] <solarbaby> Hello
[01:47] <laga> hi solarbaby
[01:48] <solarbaby> Hey..  was hoping to get a little advice.. I downloaded the newest version of Mythbuntu and the installer crashes at 14% format
[01:49] <laga> "crashes"? do you get a backtrace?
[01:50] <solarbaby> I dont think so..  it immediate shifts to 14% completed after about 1 second and then no hard drive activity and a complete system crash.. screen just stays exactly the same
[01:51] <laga> can you move the mouse?
[01:52] <solarbaby> dont think so..
[01:53] <laga> can you verify, or did you reboot that computer?
[01:53] <solarbaby> rebooted the computer.. I've been through this 3 times.. im convinced its crashing out
[01:54] <solarbaby> I just booted up with Ubuntu to log into irc and talk to you now.. I have the live boot cd.. should I use this to format?
[01:54] <laga> sounds like broken hardware to me, or the infamous unionfs issues..
[01:54] <laga> um
[01:55] <laga> do you have a regular ubuntu gutsy disk?
[01:55] <solarbaby> the website sez dont worry there is a work around for unionfs and offers no info on it
[01:55] <solarbaby> yes.. im booted with that regular disk at the moment
[01:55] <laga> hum
[01:55] <laga> can you try to install the regular gutsy disk? no worries, you can convert ubuntu into mythbuntu in no time using the control centre
[01:56] <solarbaby> that was my hopes..  yeah..  as soon as I figure out how to do it right
[01:58] <laga> if it works, file a bug against mythbuntu. if it doesnt work, file a bug against ubuntu ;))
[01:58] <solarbaby> this really puts a damper on installing it in 20 minutes
[01:58] <solarbaby> hehe
[01:59] <laga> when i installed it yesterday, i had to cope with a faulty memory stick and a fauly IDE cable first...
[01:59] <laga> bah, trying to compile sisctrl for this vga chip. and it doesnt really work.
[01:59] <solarbaby> yuck.. sorry to hear that
[02:00] <solarbaby> I decided to throw in the towl on gbpvr for something better.. I just hope I get it working
[02:00] <solarbaby> I really want something that works with my xbox's better then gbpvr ever would
[02:01] <laga> word is that xbmc + mythtv works well, or mythfrontend on the xbox itself
[02:01] <laga> if you're in the US, you're really lucky
[02:02] <solarbaby> yeah im in the US
[02:02] <laga> i had to fiddle a lot to get my analog channel lineup working. bah
[02:02] <solarbaby> and I was hoping to actually use a MythTV python script launched from XBMC
[02:02] <laga> yeah, good luck. :)
[02:02] <laga> xbmc must be nice
[02:03] <solarbaby> we dont have the free labs.zap2it anymore.. now we have to pay for something.. bah..  but I still get use of the screen scraper that takes its info from zap
[02:03] <solarbaby> XBMC is the nicest piece of software I've ever used before
[02:03] <frink_> yo
[02:03] <frink_> madness
[02:03] <solarbaby> Hiya Fink
[02:03] <solarbaby> sorry
[02:04] <solarbaby> Frink
[02:04] <laga> solarbaby: bah, paying for schedules direct is good for your soul ;)
[02:04] <solarbaby> I think your right.. and I will
[02:04] <solarbaby> it'll be dependable and worth it
[02:04] <solarbaby> before I pay though, I must have a PVR I like
[02:05] <laga> solarbaby: theres a free 7 day trial
[02:05] <solarbaby> right on.. didn't know that
[02:05] <laga> do you get your channel line up  for your area if you use the screen scraper?
[02:05] <solarbaby> Yeah I do
[02:05] <solarbaby> its awesome
[02:06] <laga> nice
[02:06] <solarbaby> you sign up for an account at zap2it the new site..  and then you prefence your channel linup..  and then you tell the scraper what your user and pass is and it gets everything you selected
[02:06] <laga> i was gonna write a screen scraper for my cbale co's website to get me my channel lineup. too bad my perl sucks
[02:06] <solarbaby> mine too
[02:07] <laga> well, i almost got it working. but i couldnt wrap my head around any of the html parsers out there, and my regexp foo is a bit weak
[02:08] <solarbaby> I guess I should figure out how to install ubuntu now
[02:08] <solarbaby> brb
[02:10] <laga> the GF better likes mythtv.
[02:10] <laga> hum, that was easy. the binary packages just installed :)
[02:13] <solarbaby> Alright..  Ubuntu is installing..
[02:13] <solarbaby> I hope this is as easy as you say
[02:14] <solarbaby> this one just passed 14% formated
[02:16] <solarbaby> Frink I believe I remember where I heard your name before.. there was a really cool movie..  damn if I can remember the name but Frink was some kind of Magical creature
[02:18] <laga> care bears?
[02:18] <solarbaby> affraid not
[02:19] <solarbaby> I wanna say it was some Sorcerer or Magician type movie..  one of the biggies like Exalibur or something
[02:19] <laga> hum, tv stays blank. bah.
[02:19] <directhex|work> professor frink professor frink he'll make you laugh he'll make you think
[02:19] <solarbaby> cute
[02:19] <directhex|work> simpsons
[02:19] <directhex|work> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Frink
[02:26] <solarbaby> I'd probably be alot better at installing this tonight if I were stoned
[02:26] <solarbaby> oh well.. i'll have to make due sober
[02:30] <solarbaby> It is time for my installation journey to begin.. I'll see you all later
[04:41] <solarbaby> Alright I'm ready for a little help here..  I "Believe" I need to install ivtv in order to get my Hauppauge 350 up and running..  ivtv-fb (PVR350 specific) requires that you enable the following kernel
[04:41] <solarbaby> config options: Go to 'Device drivers -> Graphics support'. Enable 'Support for frame
[04:41] <solarbaby> I really dont know how to do this at all :)
[04:42] <solarbaby> Any help is greatly appreciated I am kinda swimming in this at the moment
[04:44] <bendailey> solarbaby: those options are for compiling your own kernel
[04:45] <solarbaby> I knew I was reading the wrong thing
[04:45] <solarbaby> what do you suggest I do? do you have a really nice walk through you can point me too?
[04:45] <bendailey> solarbaby: have you done apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade yet?
[04:46] <solarbaby> damn.. no I totally forgot about that
[04:46] <tgm4883> frink_, ping
[04:46] <bendailey> solarbaby: the 2.6.22 kernels should have the ivtv stuff already
[04:47] <bendailey> after dist-upgrade let me know what you get you may just need an additional module
[04:47] <solarbaby> Ok this is going to sound totally classic, but I just installed ubuntu and I can't su to root it sez my password isn't right
[04:47] <laga> use sudo
[04:47] <directhex|work> ubuntu doesn't use a classic root account
[04:47] <bendailey> solarbaby: ^^^^^^^
[04:47] <solarbaby> oh
[04:47] <bendailey> man those guys are fast :)
[04:47] <directhex|work> use "sudo somecommand"
[04:47] <solarbaby> Thanks! your life savers you are
[04:48] <directhex|work> if you really want to, "sudo bash" is pretty much the same end result as "su"
[04:48] <bendailey> solarbaby: sudo -i
[04:48] <laga> or sudo su - ;)
[04:48] <solarbaby> yeah im really liking the people on this channel your awesome
[04:48] <tgm4883> Has anyone seen frink around?  I've been looking for him for a couple days
[04:48] <directhex|work> professor frink professor frink he'll make you laugh he'll make you think
[04:48] <solarbaby> sudo bash is for me..   I seem to just miss him.
[04:52] <tgm4883> in.  India?
[04:52] <directhex|work> run ntp or your recordings will be wrong! aaaargh!
[04:52] <solarbaby> bendailey: Alright..  it turns out I didn't need any updates from apt
[04:53] <solarbaby> bendailey: I suppose Synaptic Package Manager took care of that stuff for me
[04:53] <laga> tgm4883: yes. (or shoot him an email?)
[04:53] <laga> directhex|work: this is not a mythtv box
[04:53] <tgm4883> do you have his email?
[04:54] <laga> tgm4883: no
[04:54] <tgm4883> me neither
[04:54] <tgm4883> I bet superm1 does
[04:54] <directhex|work> is it not on his launchpad profile?
[04:54] <bendailey> solarbaby: apt-cache search ivtv
[04:54] <laga> some minor tweaks for tv-out aside, i think the mythtv box for the GF is ready.
[04:54] <tgm4883> wheres mythbot to do my dirty work?
[04:54] <bendailey> what does that give you?
[04:55] <laga> can someone summon foxbuntu? i need to know how to escape "Back/Exit" in my lircrc proerly
[04:55] <laga> properly
[04:55] <tgm4883> sure
[04:56] <tgm4883> witches and goblins and snake and frogs
[04:56] <tgm4883> summon foxbuntu from the depths of the logs
[04:56] <solarbaby> bendailey: ivtv-fb (PVR350 specific) requires that you enable the following kernel
[04:56] <tgm4883> muahahahaha
[04:56] <solarbaby> config options: Go to 'Device drivers -> Graphics support'. Enable 'Support for frame
[04:56] <directhex|work> solarbaby, you don't want to use ivtv-fb. really.
[04:57] <laga> tgm4883: rotfl. weirdo :)
[04:57] <solarbaby> If I can get by doing the easist and best way you recommend im all for it
[04:57] <directhex|work> solarbaby, what exactly is the problem?
[04:58] <solarbaby> I just installed Ubuntu an hour ago and I noticed I dont have the Hauppauge 350 showing up in my hardware list
[04:58] <solarbaby> Im not very good with the hardware side of linux.. so this really stumps me
[05:00] <bendailey> solarbaby: what "hardware list" ?
[05:00] <solarbaby> Clicking System, Prefrences, Hardware List
[05:01] <tgm4883> solarbaby, do lspci in the terminal and post the output to pastebin
[05:01] <solarbaby> Ok
[05:04] <solarbaby> tgm4883: http://pastebin.com/d198b8f9f
[05:05] <directhex|work> 02:04.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[05:05] <solarbaby> that means its working doesn't it?
[05:06] <solarbaby> sorry im a real newbie to this side of linux..  heh
[05:06] <directhex|work> it means the hardware is detected
[05:07] <solarbaby> well thats a good sign.. I dunno if im ready to go ahead and start with the install of MythTV yet or check other things first
[05:08] <directhex|work> it doesn't neccessarily mean the driver's loaded though
[05:08] <solarbaby> ah
[05:08] <tgm4883> i think it's fine
[05:08] <tgm4883> you could always test
[05:08] <tgm4883> is this a gutsy install?
[05:08] <solarbaby> by doing what?
[05:08] <solarbaby> yes
[05:08] <directhex|work> try "dmesg | grep ivtv"
[05:08] <tgm4883> cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg
[05:08] <directhex|work> or that i suppose
[05:09] <solarbaby> heh ok i'll start with the top
[05:09] <directhex|work> "ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #1" would be a good message to see at the bottom of that dmesg output
[05:10] <tgm4883> ls | grep video do this first
[05:10] <tgm4883> so we know we have the right vid device
[05:10] <tgm4883> ls | grep video
[05:10] <directhex|work> tgm4883, try again
[05:10] <tgm4883> err
[05:10] <tgm4883> whoops
[05:10] <solarbaby> Happy Days it looks like it works..  please take a look http://pastebin.com/d1fa8654d
[05:10] <tgm4883> ls | grep /dev/video
[05:11] <tgm4883> good catch directhex|work
[05:11] <directhex|work> 2.6.20? you're on feisty, not gutsy
[05:11] <solarbaby> Oops
[05:11] <directhex|work> but it's loading the firmware for you
[05:11] <directhex|work> so it works
[05:11] <directhex|work> well. should damn well work
[05:11] <tgm4883> it's built into feisty too
[05:11] <solarbaby> Sweeet!
[05:11] <solarbaby> Thank God, and Thank you Folks as well
[05:12] <solarbaby> I am ready to install Myth
[05:12] <tgm4883> !guides
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guides - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <tgm4883> !mythtv
[05:12] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:12] <tgm4883> there ya go
[05:13] <solarbaby> IM already there.. but they didn't explain the Tuner Card stuff
[05:13] <solarbaby> you guys did a great job of that though..
[05:14] <tgm4883> it doesn't need to explain much about the pvr cards as support is built in
[05:14] <solarbaby> they certainly didn't update the guide on labs.zap2it.com
[05:14] <solarbaby> (tapping foot)
[05:14] <tgm4883> solarbaby, your right.  We didn't
[05:15] <solarbaby> I have a work around for that
[05:15] <solarbaby> its not a very good one either.. but its called zap2xml
[05:15] <tgm4883> thats ok, i like SD
[05:15] <solarbaby> yeah just another one of those pesky scrapers but it works.. dunno how to incorp it into myth though
[05:15] <solarbaby> SD I haven't used yet..  I really should sign up for my demo account
[05:15] <tgm4883> yea you should
[05:16] <directhex|work> solarbaby, with difficulty. you could try schedulesdirect for the trial period, and decide whether it's worth the trivial price
[05:16] <solarbaby> with difficulity eh?
[05:17] <tgm4883> or you could just be a man and sign up ;)
[05:17] <solarbaby> heh.. is it only $20 a year yet?
[05:18] <tgm4883> yep
[05:18] <tgm4883> !schedulesdirect
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about schedulesdirect - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <tgm4883> oh well
[05:18] <solarbaby> sweet..
[05:19] <DaveMorris> $schedulesdirect
[05:19] <DaveMorris> where is that mythbot
[05:25] <frink_> yo
[05:27] <laga> foxbuntu: hey
[05:27] <tgm4883> frink_, whats the status on rsync?
[05:27] <laga> foxbuntu: what magic did you have to do to escape Back/Exit properly?
[05:27] <tgm4883> see laga, told you I could summon him
[05:29] <laga> heh
[05:29] <frink_> tgm4883: Oh I duno status, superm1 admins it all innit..
[05:30] <tgm4883> ah
[05:31] <foxbuntu> laga, actually turns out I was escaping it and didn't did to
[05:31] <laga> foxbuntu: ah. well, cause i have "    button = Back/Exit
[05:32] <laga> "
[05:32] <laga> and its no worky.
[05:32] <tgm4883> bendailey, ping
[05:32] <foxbuntu> laga, thats strange
[05:33] <foxbuntu> I actually don't have a remote to test the actual button
[05:33] <tgm4883> frink_, could bendailey do it?
[05:35] <foxbuntu> laga, in your lircd.conf is the button name actually Back/Exit?
[05:35] <laga>           Back/Exit                0x00000000000017DF
[05:36] <laga> btw, this was not generated using the latest mlg probably
[05:36] <laga> but it looks sane, still
[05:36] <tgm4883> frink_, bendailey, i gotta run.  Back on in about an hour.  Shoot me an email (or an email to the list) and let me know what you two decide.  I'm checking with superm1 to see if he was planning on doing it or going to delegate it to someone else
[05:36] <foxbuntu> laga the latest is 0.15 unless superm1 hasn't pushed that to archive yet
[05:36] <foxbuntu> then its 0.14
[05:37] <foxbuntu> but on the other side that should work
[05:37] <foxbuntu> unless the lircrc doesn't properly escape that button type
[05:37] <foxbuntu> with the '/' in there
[05:38] <foxbuntu> laga, did you restart lirc after you generated the new config?
[05:38] <laga> foxbuntu: it has been restarted several times by now.
[05:38] <foxbuntu> laga, just checking
[05:39] <laga> k
[05:39] <laga> im not upset ;)
[05:40] <laga> too bad that everything has to default on PAL when i have a NTSC TV set
[07:35] <camelreef> hello all
[07:35] <camelreef> laga, remember my OSD size issue yesterday?
[07:35] <camelreef> not OSD GUI
[07:35] <camelreef> but GUI
[07:35] <camelreef> Ihope you did not lose sleep over it...
[07:36] <camelreef> my kid played with the TV's remote and had changed the zoom setting....
[07:36] <tgm4883_laptop> lol
[07:36] <superm1> haha
[07:36] <camelreef> he is now dead and is being eated by rodents outside
[07:36] <superm1> nice job
[07:36] <camelreef> sorry :o/
[07:39] <camelreef> I can;t believe I first searched through logs and changelogs forst....
[07:40] <superm1> i've got the same problem, i forget that there are low tech solutions and jump to conclusions
[07:47] <camelreef> anyway, ttyl
[07:48] <pdragon> heh.. i've gotten so used to linux's hover window focus it's been driving me nuts not having it at work where i have to use Windows
[07:48] <pdragon> TweakUI has an option to let Windows do it :)
[07:49] <laga> re
[07:49] <laga> claydoh: re
[07:49] <laga> err, camelreef..
[07:49] <laga> <- confused. sorry.
[07:49] <tgm4883_laptop> someones been drinking again
[07:50] <laga> no, been outside
[07:50] <laga> SCARYSCARYSCARY
[07:50] <tgm4883_laptop> that is scary
[07:50] <pdragon> haha
[07:50] <tgm4883_laptop> outside needs internet
[07:50] <superm1> pdragon, that's configurable
[07:50] <superm1> most distros turn that off by default though
[07:50] <pdragon> ubuntu with gnome has it on by default
[07:50] <pdragon> i like it
[07:51] <superm1> no it doesn't?
[07:51] <superm1> unless things have changed
[07:51] <superm1> recently
[07:51] <pdragon> i never turned it on and it's always had it
[07:51] <pdragon> just the focus change. doesn't bring the window forward
[07:51] <superm1> hm interesting, still didn't even think that was on
[07:51] <tgm4883_laptop> yes is does
[07:52] <tgm4883_laptop> focus change rocks
[07:52] <superm1> oh god that's annoying
[07:52] <superm1> i'm glad i have that off
[07:52] <pdragon> it does have a slight delay. at first the Windows setting didn't and yes, that was annoying
[07:52] <pdragon> that's adjustable too tho thankfully
[07:54] <pdragon> now i can just leave my chat as only slightly visible on the bottom of my screen, but still be able to type it in without bringing the whole thing forward and covering my other windows
[08:23] <solarbaby> is anyone using the USBUIRT?
[08:23] <solarbaby> I ask because im still installing Myth and im not sure if I should tell it i'll be using lirc or something else that works
[08:26] <laga> what is an USBUIRT?
[08:26] <laga> and what drivers are there?
[08:26] <solarbaby> Its a very simple usb device that transmits IR signals
[08:27] <pdragon> http://www.usbuirt.com/
[08:27] <pdragon> i think it's a pretty standard device as far as mythtv support from what i've read
[08:27] <solarbaby> I've installed their windows drivers before..  and Ubuntu knows I have a USBUIRT.. its the config of Myth im concerned about
[08:27] <pdragon> haven't done it myself tho
[08:28] <solarbaby> this could very well be the most advanced part of install
[08:31] <pdragon> yeah i haven't gotten around to trying to set up a remote yet myself. got everything else working that i wanted
[08:31] <solarbaby> hehe..  I can understand
[08:31] <pdragon> just use a wireless keyboard for now
[08:32] <solarbaby> I paid $50 for this little device.. I'd love to use it
[08:35] <tushyd> hey, anyone know if I could use an xbox 360 hddvd drive in Ubuntu?
[08:37] <therethinker> hello mythbot
[08:37] <mythbot> Hi therethinker.
[08:41] <tgm4883_laptop> hello therethinker
[09:10] <therethinker> :P
[09:10] <therethinker> I was making sure it worked... it just died for no reason
[09:11] <laga> hey therethinker
[09:11] <laga> therethinker: did you fix the locale error in ubiquity?
[09:14] <therethinker> Oh, in ubiquity
[09:14] <tgm4883_laptop> im really back this time bendailey
[09:14] <therethinker> :P
[09:15] <solarbaby> Lirc is confusing stuff
[09:15] <tgm4883_laptop> so the script just segments by country?
[09:32] <Dr_willis> hmm.. installing  ubuntu-mythtv-frontend , on this box decided to gernate its own mysql database/password.. dident ask me about the BACKEND i wanted it to connect to. :)
[09:33] <laga> Dr_willis: you probably installed mythtv-database, too?
[09:33] <laga> anyways, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[09:34] <Dr_willis> i installed the.. letssee...
[09:34] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-mythtv-frontend - Metapackage to setup and configure a "Frontend" profile of MythTV.
[09:34] <laga> file a bug then ;)
[09:34] <directhex> Dr_willis, what did you istall it with?
[09:35] <Dr_willis> apt-get install ubuntu-mythtv-frontend
[09:36] <Dr_willis> there we go..  reconfigured the -common and it took the right info.
[09:36] <directhex> hm, not sure why that would happen then
[09:36] <superm1> that's normal behavior
[09:36] <superm1> most people don't need to do that
[09:36] <Dr_willis> yea - it dident ask to configure it the first time.
[09:36] <superm1> so we hide it from them
[09:36] <superm1> but those that do need it, can reconfigure that method
[09:37] <Dr_willis> lets see if this puppy works. :)
[09:37] <laga> will those who need it know how to do that?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> I was going through trying dpnk-reconfigure on the bits. :) wasent sure what one to reconfigure.
[09:37] <directhex> high priority debconf question of some kind?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> also i  lost the message it said what to run.. since i had to logoiut to change the mythtv group for my user.
[09:38] <Dr_willis> egads - prescaling theme images is slow on this box.. and its my HIGHend box. :)
[09:38] <superm1> directhex, well it used to be high priority
[09:38] <superm1> directhex, but we dropped it down to hide it from people
[09:38] <superm1> Dr_willis, just the first time
[09:38] <directhex> zomg! dumbing down teh loonicks!
[09:38] <laga> directhex: rotfl
[09:39] <Dr_willis> The Mythbuntu box  i set up the other day. went smoothly. :) just that little hickup here.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> here we go.. lets see whqt toons i recorded last night
[09:40] <Dr_willis> Doh. Unable to initilize video.
[09:40] <Dr_willis> Hmm the preview is showing.
[09:40] <Dr_willis> i wonder if the twinview i got going is confusing things.
[09:42] <superm1> directhex, if you look at the forums at how many people got confused and started putting the wrong stuff in those boxes, you'd see why we did that :)
[09:42] <superm1> Dr_willis, shouldn't.
[09:42] <directhex> superm1, so... dumbing down for the dumb then :)
[09:42] <Dr_willis> aha the hostname in database config is wrong. its localhost. when it should be my 'mythbox'
[09:42] <beavis> Is it possible to remove all unneeded things that were installed by the default gutsy installation with mythbuntu somehow?
[09:43] <Dr_willis> bummer.. still unable to initilize video.
[09:43] <directhex> beavis, packages you don't need you mean?
[09:43] <laga> beavis: remove ubuntu-desktop and friends?
[09:43] <laga> use deborphan?
[09:43] <beavis> directhex, packages a simple frontend doesn't mean
[09:43] <laga> dont break anything KTHX? :)
[09:43] <beavis> need
[09:44] <directhex> beavis, well, deborphan, but good luck. just how certain are you something isn't needed?
[09:44] <beavis> I only need the frontend packages so all the things gutsy installed aren't necessary there
[09:45] <directhex> well, remove ubuntu-desktop, run deborphan, and pray. that ought to work
[09:46] <directhex> or pehaps some aptitude voodoo
[09:46] <laga> aptitude should remove unneeded packages automagically
[09:46] <beavis> OMG this doesn't sound like something I want to do ;)
[09:46] <laga> not sure if that works for ubuntu-desktop
[09:46] <laga> beavis: if you dont believe in god, you can leave out the "pray" part
[09:46] <beavis> what about the services gutsy starts automatically?
[09:46] <laga> remove them if you dont need them
[09:50] <directhex> yeah, you don;t need cups really
[09:55] <laga> $boobs
[09:55] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "The term breast refers to the upper ventral region of an animals torso, particularly that of mammals, including human beings." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boobs
[09:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Well I connect to my mythbackend now, i get the recorded shows shown, and even see a little preview/thumbnail of the show. I go to play it get 'error can not initilize video' -   any suggestions as to where to trouble shoot first?
[09:56] <laga> Dr_willis: what kind of hardware is this?
[09:56] <Dr_willis> nvidia 8800gtsxxx video card.   AMD AM2 6000 CPU.
[09:56] <laga> eek
[09:56] <laga> that's a nice frontend.
[09:56] <Dr_willis> I am using twinview.. but ive used that befor  on the other box.
[09:57] <Dr_willis> The backend is in the basement. :) its my old box now.
[09:57] <Dr_willis> also using compiz.
[09:57] <laga> start mythfrontend in  a terminal, try to play a recording and check in the terminal
[09:57] <laga> and you might wanna disable compiz
[09:57] <Dr_willis> yea.i enabled logging.. looking at them now.
[09:58] <Dr_willis> compiz and mythtv works together nicely on the backend machine. :)
[09:58] <Dr_willis> it has a Nvidia 6800
[09:59] <laga> i have no clue what you are doing with high end video cards in these boxes ;)
[09:59] <directhex> 6800 ain#t high end, it's antique!
[10:00] <Dr_willis> for a back end. :)  its good.
[10:00] <Dr_willis> My old mythtv box had a 5200
[10:00] <Dr_willis> its now the spare front end.
[10:00] <laga> my backend does not even have a VGA card ;)
[10:00] <laga> it's still drawing like 90W :/
[10:00] <Dr_willis>  (BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied))
[10:00] <Dr_willis> that looks bad..
[10:01] <Dr_willis> 2007-10-10 15:59:14.772 VideoOutputXv Error: Failed to create XVideo Buffers.
[10:01] <Dr_willis> X Error: BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter) 167
[10:01] <Dr_willis> 2007-10-10 15:59:14.786 VideoOutputXv: Falling back to X shared memory video output.
[10:01] <Dr_willis>                               *** May be slow ***
[10:02] <Dr_willis> looks like theres some driver issues going on? or am i missreading the error messages?
[10:02] <laga> yeah, looks like it
[10:02] <laga> try disabling compiz
[10:03] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga sing", sorry.
[10:03] <therethinker> whoops :P
[10:03] <laga> what the hell :)
[10:03] <Dr_willis> no more wobbly windows. :) heh.. lets try now
[10:03] <laga> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160167004568
[10:03] <laga> ^ this is great
[10:03] <therethinker> Err >_>
[10:03] <therethinker> That's hilarious
[10:04] <laga> afk, bbl
[10:04] <Dr_willis> Aha! i think i figured it out..
[10:04] <Dr_willis> when running Mythtvfrontend.. be sure you are not 'ssh'd' to the OTEHR machine :)
[10:04] <Dr_willis> lets try again
[10:10] <Dr_willis> there we go.
[10:10] <Dr_willis> X forwarding and video playback = not a good idea.
[10:12] <laga> duh
[10:12] <laga> ;)
[10:13] <Dr_willis> i got to set up different obvious prompts for my machines
[10:14] <Dr_willis> id ssh'd to the backend to get its mysql password
[10:14] <Dr_willis> then frogot. :)
[10:20] <therethinker> $mcc
[10:20] <therethinker> mythbot should have died... the server got unplugged...
[10:20] <therethinker> Its rebooting
[10:21] <therethinker> $mcc
[10:21] <mythbot> Mythbuntu Control Centre - a admin panel for MythTV - Created and maintained by the mythbuntu team. http://www.mythbuntu.org/about
[10:21] <therethinker> Okay... its good
[10:24] <Dr_willis>  i rember a video player somewhere , that could 'speed up' playback a few %  - like 5-10% so the show was still watchable.
[10:24] <Dr_willis> it tweaked the sound  also.
[10:24] <Dr_willis> mythtv cant do that can it?
[10:25] <laga> it can
[10:25] <laga> hit "m" during playback
[10:25] <laga> it's called time stretch i think
[10:26] <Dr_willis> aha - i was way down the list. :) had to scroll down
[10:28] <Dr_willis> with comercial skipping and time stretching.. i might catchup  on my tv viewing
[10:32] <superm1> i always forget about time stretching
[10:32] <superm1> i used to use that to squeeze in shows that i normally couldn't watch between classes
[10:32] <therethinker2> hmm... it sounds cool
[10:32] <Dr_willis> heh. seems the voices dont match up now..
[10:33] <Dr_willis> but its kungfu movies. so it dont matter
[10:44] <laga> hello mythbot !
[10:45] <therethinker2> hello mythbot!
[10:45] <mythbot> Hey therethinker2.
[10:46] <superm1> does mythbot not feel pain?
[10:46] <therethinker2> It can make you feel pain!
[10:46] <therethinker2> $infect superm1
[10:46] <mythbot> /me takes control of superm1's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.
[10:46] <laga> $whack superm1
[10:46] <mythbot> /me whacks superm1
[10:46] <superm1> i see....
[10:46] <therethinker2> $runover superm1
[10:46] <mythbot> /me takes wireless control of superm1's car, and runs him over
[10:46] <laga> rotfl
[10:46] <tgm4883_laptop> $whack tgm4883_laptop
[10:46] <mythbot> /me whacks tgm4883_laptop
[10:46] <tgm4883_laptop> i just whacked myself
[10:47] <therethinker2> :P
[10:47] <therethinker2> Don't, please
[10:47] <therethinker2> $hug superm1
[10:47] <mythbot> If I had emotions, I'd laugh!   I can't do it
[10:49] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[10:51] <tgm4883_laptop> i can
[10:51] <tgm4883_laptop> $runover laga
[10:51] <mythbot> /me takes wireless control of laga's car, and runs him over
[10:51] <therethinker2> :D
[10:51] <tgm4883_laptop> i got your back
[10:51] <therethinker2> If there was a good action, I'd use it...
[10:52] <laga> instead of high-fiving?
[10:52] <laga> $poke tgm4883_laptop
[10:52] <mythbot> /me stabs tgm4883_laptop violently with a rusty spoon
[10:52] <laga> comes pretty close
[10:52] <laga> ok.
[10:52] <therethinker2> :P
[10:52] <laga> let's stop it.
[10:52] <therethinker2> yes
[10:53] <therethinker2> Aww. we scared Dr_willis
[10:53] <therethinker2> $ask
[10:53] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:53] <therethinker2> $hello
[10:53] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[10:58] <therethinker2> $laga do that
[10:58] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga do", sorry.
[10:58] <therethinker2> eh... sorry
[10:59] <therethinker2> oh, yeah
[10:59] <therethinker> $laga do that
[10:59] <mythbot> laga is to work on do that
[10:59] <mythbot> OperationalError: no such table: Assign (file "/var/nas/phenny/modules/help.py", line 25, in f_chelp)
[10:59] <therethinker> yeah... you can see the basis for it
[11:00] <reldruh> hello. I just installed a mythtv frontend on an old laptop using the guide on help.ubuntu.com and it's all working now, but when I try and watch TV or a recording the picture is very jerky
[11:01] <directhex> reldruh, wireless?
[11:01] <laga> reldruh, 486?
[11:01] <reldruh> directhex, no, wired, using the exact same cable as on my other frontend
[11:01] <tgm4883_laptop> reldruh, system specs
[11:01] <directhex> vesa!
[11:01] <reldruh> I'm not sure about the specs. It's an old laptop but it used to run XP, I believe
[11:01] <reldruh> windows 98 at the very least
[11:01] <reldruh> vesa?
[11:02] <tgm4883_laptop> reldruh, model number
[11:02] <tgm4883_laptop> and brand
[11:02] <reldruh> compaq presario 1200
[11:02] <directhex> reldruh, myth needs an actual video driver to do video
[11:02] <tgm4883_laptop> not going to happen
[11:02] <directhex> reldruh, vesa is linux's equivalent to the "standard vga adapter" driver in windows that doesn't do anything
[11:02] <tgm4883_laptop> $specs
[11:02] <mythbot> Looking for recommended hardware specs?  Look no further than here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570204
[11:02] <tgm4883_laptop> 498mhz is too slow
[11:02] <directhex> tgm4883 my wife had one when she was younger iirc. k6-250 or thereabouts
[11:03] <directhex> 350
[11:03] <directhex> hey, 500, not far off
[11:03] <reldruh> these are the specs just for a frontend?
[11:04] <tgm4883_laptop> reldruh, it may be possible, but you would have to transcode to something much lower before you watch it
[11:04] <tgm4883_laptop> reldruh, try this
[11:05] <tgm4883_laptop> copy the file over first, then try watching it from there
[11:05] <tgm4883_laptop> and which guide on there did you follow
[11:05] <reldruh> I followed the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Frontend#head-96146f42d923bb5ce3d9b1f58861701dbd2ef42e
[11:06] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[11:06] <tgm4883_laptop> what does lspci | grep direct output?
[11:06] <tgm4883_laptop> lspci | grep direct
[11:07] <directhex> tgm4883 wrong tree again. grepping for direct is when you want glxinfo
[11:07] <tgm4883_laptop> arg
[11:07] <tgm4883_laptop> your right
[11:07] <reldruh> hang on, it's a slow comp. It's starting up now
[11:07] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm leaving
[11:07] <tgm4883_laptop> i can't get anything right today
[11:08] <tgm4883_laptop> j/k, i'll stay.  But directhex you have to follow me around and correct what I say
[11:08] <tgm4883_laptop> so do this and let us know what it says
[11:08] <tgm4883_laptop> glxinfo | grep direct
[11:08] <directhex> tgm4883, no chance of gl on that thing
[11:08] <tgm4883_laptop> yea your probably right
[11:09] <tgm4883_laptop> i just want to see what it says
[11:09] <tgm4883_laptop> it's funny
[11:09] <tgm4883_laptop> 12.1 in screen
[11:09] <tgm4883_laptop> then they went up to 17in, and now people want them small
[11:10] <directhex> nothing wrong with that. the laptop i have my eye on has a 12.1" screen
[11:10] <tgm4883_laptop> exactly
[11:10] <tgm4883_laptop> I got my eye on a 14.1 in tablet
[11:14] <tgm4883_laptop> reldruh, still booting?
[11:14] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm pretty sure there isn't much you can do
[11:14] <tgm4883_laptop> 500mhz, 60MB ram
[11:14] <reldruh> yeah, it's still booting
[11:14] <reldruh> :-(
[11:14] <tgm4883_laptop> although
[11:15] <tgm4883_laptop> i remember reading a long time back that in windows dvdrom required only 300mhz
[11:15] <tgm4883_laptop> so, maybe there is something you can do
[11:15] <tgm4883_laptop> but I think that more ram is necessary for even that
[11:15] <directhex> tgm4883_laptop, if it's a k6, it'd need to be 500mhz
[11:15] <directhex> tgm4883 and yes, MOAR RAMS
[11:15] <reldruh> haha
[11:15] <tgm4883_laptop> directhex, what?
[11:15] <reldruh> I thought the requirements for a frontend were super low
[11:15] <reldruh> guess I should have checked more closely before starting
[11:16] <tgm4883_laptop> reldruh, heh, 800mhz is pretty low
[11:16] <reldruh> for new hardware, sure :-)
[11:16] <tgm4883_laptop> directhex, from wikipedia, Priced at 1200, the 1200 contained an energetic 500MHz AMD K6-2 Processor and a flagship Lithium Ion battery.
[11:16] <reldruh> I'm on the same wikipedia page
[11:16] <tgm4883_laptop> heh, even for old hardware.  Free Geek will give you a 1.5 - 1.9Ghz computer
[11:16] <directhex> tgm4883_laptop, k6-2 is significantly worse per clock than p2. 300mhz was enough, at ~100% cpu use, on a p2
[11:16] <reldruh> Free Geek?
[11:17] <tgm4883_laptop> directhex, ah, that makes more sense now
[11:17] <tgm4883_laptop> reldruh, it's a computer shop in portland oregon
[11:17] <tgm4883_laptop> you just have to either
[11:17] <tgm4883_laptop> A)  complete building 6 computers for them
[11:17] <tgm4883_laptop> or B) volunteer 24 hours
[11:18] <tgm4883_laptop> then you get a computer with ubuntu installed :)
[11:18] <reldruh> sounds like you have to be in Oregon to do that
[11:18] <therethinker2> tgm4883_laptop: sounds cool...
[11:18] <tgm4883_laptop> yep
[11:18] <therethinker2> the 6 computers sounds quick...
[11:18] <tgm4883_laptop> btw, you are all invited to the Oregon Gutsy Release Extravaganza
[11:19] <therethinker2> Sorry, I'm not flying out for that :P
[11:19] <tgm4883_laptop> fine, be a party pooper
[11:20] <therethinker2> Unless... you pay for the airfare/hotel
[11:20] <laga> i cant drink in the US :/
[11:20] <reldruh> here's a few more: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties
[11:20] <tgm4883_laptop> age?
[11:20] <therethinker2> haha
[11:20] <directhex> laga, i know, silly innit
[11:20] <tgm4883_laptop> some places are 18 i think
[11:20] <tgm4883_laptop> lousiana
[11:21] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: i'm 20
[11:21] <directhex> laga, own a gun from age three or so, but no sex or booze until your late 40s
[11:21] <tgm4883_laptop> they will have to pry my gun from my cold dead hands
[11:22] <directhex> i has a rat on me
[11:22] <laga> i'm not a redneck. i still drive that car in my yard
[11:22] <directhex> germans can't be rednecks!
[11:23] <therethinker> :P
[11:23] <tgm4883_laptop> whose using gutsy right now?
[11:23] <therethinker> I'm using it in a VM
[11:23] <therethinker> I might go to the one near me...
[11:23] <directhex> they can be neo-nazis, or goths, or put their towels on all the sun loungers at like 5am before anyone else has woken up. but not rednecks!
[11:23] <therethinker> $poke directhex
[11:23] <mythbot> /me stabs directhex violently with a rusty spoon
[11:24] <therethinker> that's for using stereotypes
[11:24] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[11:24] <tgm4883_laptop> no stereotypes you cracker
[11:24] <therethinker> $infect directhex
[11:24] <mythbot> /me takes control of directhex's computer, formats the hard drive, and installs Windows ME on it.
[11:24] <therethinker> tgm4883_laptop, help me! :P
[11:25] <tgm4883_laptop> there are two types of people I don't like.  The people who don't like other people because of stereotypes and where they are from, and the dutch
[11:25] <therethinker> :P
[11:25] <tgm4883_laptop> $runover directhex
[11:25] <mythbot> /me takes wireless control of directhex's car, and runs him over
[11:25] <directhex> we don't take kindly to people who don't take kindly around here!
[11:25] <therethinker> Stereotypers have low IQ, you know.
[11:26] <tgm4883_laptop> wtf, why does ALT+F4 = space?
[11:26] <laga> therethinker: _all_ of them
[11:26] <therethinker> I don't know
[11:26] <therethinker> Hmm
[11:26] <therethinker>
[11:26] <therethinker> that's weird >_>
[11:26] <tgm4883_laptop> im bored
[11:26] <therethinker> $smack tgm4883
[11:26] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "smack tgm4883", sorry.
[11:26] <tgm4883_laptop> is it just a gutsy thing or does that happen in feisty too?
[11:26] <therethinker> $therethinker debconf
[11:27] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[11:27] <therethinker> it will probably blow up :P
[11:27] <therethinker> wow... didn't
[11:27] <therethinker> $laga tell therethinker how to do debconf
[11:27] <mythbot> laga is to work on tell therethinker how to do debconf
[11:27] <therethinker> It should store that in a db... oh well... *works on debconf*
[11:28] <therethinker> Hello NeoFax
[11:28] <therethinker> hello jono
[11:29] <tgm4883_laptop> $hello
[11:29] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[11:29] <jono> hey
[11:29] <NeoFax> therethinker: Hello
[11:29] <tgm4883_laptop> jono, are you the jono on planet ubuntu?
[11:29] <jono> tgm4883_laptop: yep
[11:29] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[11:29] <reldruh> how do I stop X so I can drop to the command line? Ctrl+alt+backspace just restarts it.
[11:29] <tgm4883_laptop> just wondering
[11:30] <jono> tgm4883_laptop: :)
[11:30] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm getting all the stuff straighted out with our release party :)
[11:30] <therethinker2> crtl+alt+f1?
[11:30] <therethinker2> wait
[11:30] <therethinker2> (to get back, ctrl+alt+f6... I think... might be 7)
[11:30] <directhex> gah, of all the people to turn up when i'm on a diet, it's the guy with the surname "bacon"
[11:30] <therethinker2> tgm4883_laptop, are you planning?
[11:31] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, me and H264 are planning the Oregon team party
[11:31] <directhex> reldruh, change to a VT with ctrl-alt-f1, log in, and run invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[11:31] <directhex> reldruh, not sure why you want to though
[11:31] <therethinker2> sweet
[11:31] <therethinker2>  $good-action tgm4883 :P
[11:31] <tgm4883_laptop> were running short on things to do though
[11:32] <therethinker2> pin the guts on the gibbon?
[11:32] <tgm4883_laptop> Free Geek shot down our computer building competition
[11:32] <reldruh> directhex: I didn't have ssh installed, not part of the mythtv metapackage, I guess
[11:32] <tgm4883_laptop> therethinker2, nice
[11:32] <therethinker2> Who doesn't like sticking intestinal tracks on funny monkies?
[11:32] <directhex> reldruh, indeed it's not. but you don't need to *stop* x to install it
[11:33] <therethinker2> Uh... download GG?
[11:33] <reldruh> directhex: I tried exiting mythtv but it just restarted it
[11:33] <reldruh> I couldn't get a terminal open
[11:33] <therethinker2> \burn it to a disk....
[11:33] <tgm4883_laptop> therethinker2, we are planning on having it already to go
[11:33] <directhex> reldruh, ctrl-alt-f1 to switch away from it - ctrl-alt-f7 to go back
[11:33] <therethinker2> Yeah, but now everyone can experience the download!
[11:33] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[11:33] <reldruh> thanks :-)
[11:34] <tgm4883_laptop> and we can all watch the download bar go accross the screen
[11:34] <therethinker2> Better yet, set up the downloader like on a giant projector... and then when it hits 100%, whip the CDs at people!
[11:34] <therethinker2> Or make a CD cannon and shoot them!
[11:34] <tgm4883_laptop> yea, I can see it now
[11:34] <therethinker2> download bars are fun
[11:34] <tgm4883_laptop> "Man arrested for beheading Ubuntu fan's with CD's"
[11:34] <tgm4883_laptop> story at 11:00
[11:35] <therethinker2> s/Man/Men
[11:35] <therethinker2> Or... er... microwave them?
[11:35] <therethinker2> so when you stick them in the drive, they explode
[11:35] <therethinker2> say its new holographic storage technology
[11:35] <therethinker2> (if they ask why its all damaged)
[11:37] <reldruh> all right, I'm sorry it took so long to get this information, but you guys wanted to see the output of glxinfo?
[11:37] <therethinker2> Yus
[11:38] <reldruh> "Error: unable to open display (null)
[11:38] <reldruh> "
[11:38] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[11:38] <tgm4883_laptop> stop
[11:38] <therethinker> $pastebin
[11:38] <tgm4883_laptop> !pastebin
[11:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:38] <mythbot> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste!)
[11:38] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:38] <reldruh> that's the whole output...
[11:38] <therethinker> Oh..
[11:38] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[11:38] <therethinker> We jumped :P
[11:38] <tgm4883_laptop> we just flooded the channel more than you hee
[11:38] <reldruh> haha
[11:38] <therethinker> :P
[11:38] <reldruh> I wish I was lucky enough to have enough output to pastebin :-)
[11:39] <therethinker> EVERYONE! HE'S POSTING A LOG!! PASTEBIN!!!
[11:39] <tgm4883_laptop> therethinker, why did mythbot respond twice?
[11:39] <therethinker> ($pastebin and !pastebin's rain down on channel)
[11:39] <therethinker> Oh, never use !
[11:39] <tgm4883_laptop> therethinker, never?
[11:39] <therethinker> because mythbot sees it, and thinks it asked for pastebin
[11:39] <therethinker> it knows about pastebin:
[11:39] <therethinker> $pastebin
[11:39] <mythbot> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste!)
[11:40] <tgm4883_laptop> thats funny
[11:40] <therethinker> but it saw ubotu say "pastebin is...", and went to tell us
[11:40] <therethinker> Yeah, I need to fix it...
[11:41] <therethinker> !pastebin
[11:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:41] <therethinker> We're all happy now :-)
[11:41] <therethinker> $linux
[11:41] <mythbot> Although I didn't know, ubotu says: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[11:41] <tgm4883_laptop> yay
[11:41] <therethinker> Anyone know about sqlite3 db locks?
[11:41] <foxbuntu> $therethinker
[11:41] <mythbot> therethinker is the programmer who created me. He mainly works on mcc.
[11:41] <therethinker> :-D
[11:41] <foxbuntu> $suck
[11:41] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "The act of sucking, the creation of a partial vacuum, or region of low pressure" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suck
[11:42] <foxbuntu> ha
[11:42] <therethinker> $laga do that and that and that
[11:42] <mythbot> laga is to work on do that and that and that
[11:42] <laga> $laga
[11:42] <mythbot> laga is from Germany. He works on Mythbuntu.
[11:42] <therethinker> hmm... still not working...
[11:43] <therethinker> damn DB gets locked
[11:44] <therethinker> $laga do that and that and that
[11:44] <mythbot> laga is to work on do that and that and that
[11:44] <therethinker> I give up
[11:44] <therethinker> Okay, meaningful discussion time
[11:44] <tgm4883_laptop> $runover therethinker
[11:44] <mythbot> /me takes wireless control of therethinker's car, and runs him over
[11:45] <therethinker> $daily tgm4883_laptop
[11:45] <mythbot> /me gives tgm4883_laptop the finger
[11:45] <tgm4883_laptop> nice
[11:45] <therethinker> yeah... $daily changes daily... :P
[11:46] <laga> $poke ubiquity
[11:46] <mythbot> /me stabs ubiquity violently with a rusty spoon
[11:46] <laga> hahahah
[11:46] <laga> that cheers me up every time
[11:46] <therethinker2> :P
[11:47] <therethinker2> I'm glad I could make your world a better place, by having a  robot stab someone with a blunt object :P
[11:47] <NeoFax> Is the next update of mythbuntu going to have appletrailer plugin?  I think this is good as right now every update I have to re add the menu
[11:47] <therethinker2> ^^ or something?
[11:47] <therethinker2> its appletrailer in multiverse?
[11:47] <laga> NeoFax: you can copy the menu xml to ~
[11:47] <laga> therethinker2: no
[11:47] <laga> foxbuntu meant to package it a long time ago..
[11:47] <therethinker2> aww... thought I could help :P
[11:47] <laga> it's a nifty plugin
[11:47] <therethinker2> sounds fun
[11:47] <laga> heh
[11:48] <laga> reminds me, i need to install it on the gf's box
[11:48] <NeoFax> Also, is there a plugin that can add a trailer and a avi file before a movie is played?  Kinda like at a real theater?
[11:48] <tgm4883_laptop> NeoFax, talk to foxbuntu
[11:48] <tgm4883_laptop> NeoFax, yea it's called a playlist
[11:48] <NeoFax> tgm4883_laptop: Thanks!
[11:49] <tgm4883_laptop> NeoFax, where do I know that from.....
[11:49] <therethinker2> $slap tgm4883_
[11:49] <mythbot> /me slaps tgm4883_
[11:49] <therethinker2> you are not a genius
[11:49] <tgm4883_laptop> do you live inn the PNW?
[11:53] <therethinker2> PNW?
[11:53] <NeoFax> tgm4883_laptop: No, I live near Sacramento
[11:53] <tgm4883_laptop> Pacific NorthWest
[11:53] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[11:53] <therethinker2> Wow... thats a wierd delay
[11:53] <NeoFax> tgm4883_laptop: Where do you know it from a wiki?
[11:54] <tgm4883_laptop> idk, are you part of the PNW or Oregon LoCo teams?
[11:55] <NeoFax> No, i have never been in a LoCo or LUG or anything like that.
[11:55] <tgm4883_laptop> therethinkersucks
[11:55] <tgm4883_laptop> whoops
[11:55] <tgm4883_laptop> now i have to change all my passwords
[11:55] <tgm4883_laptop> j/k, therethinker doesn't suck
[11:55] <NeoFax> You probably remember me from a week ago when I had a problem setting up mythbuntu
[11:55] <tgm4883_laptop> heh, could be
[11:56] <NeoFax> Anyone here good with regular expressions?  I have a dilemma
[11:56] <NeoFax> I accidentally jacked up my mp3 titles and filenames
[11:56] <tgm4883_laptop> yep, want to see happy, sad, grumpy, or surprised
[11:56] <therethinker2> :P
[11:56] <NeoFax> tgm4883_laptop: Funny! ;^)
[11:57] <therethinker2> tgm4883151337
[11:57] <therethinker2> now I have to change MY passwords
[11:57] <tgm4883_laptop> nice
[11:58] <therethinker2> $runover NeoFax
[11:58] <mythbot> /me takes wireless control of neofax's car, and runs him over
[11:58] <NeoFax> I thought EasyTag would create a folder if I used the "\" character.  That is not the case.  It just thinks it is a normal character.
[11:58] <tgm4883_laptop> Neofax, wouldn't it be / not \
[11:59] <NeoFax> So, now I have like 100 mp3's with the following format /home/music/genre/artist/year-album/title.mp3.  How would I go about changing the filename to just title.mp3?
[11:59] <NeoFax> tgm4883_laptop: I know that now!!!
[11:59] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[12:00] <tgm4883_laptop> couldn't you just use some rename prog that grabs the title from the ID3 tag?
[12:01] <NeoFax> The ID3 tag was renamed as well.  EasyTag does this for you.
[12:01] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[12:01] <tgm4883_laptop> that doesn't sound like a good idea
[12:02] <foxbuntu> NeoFax, I intend to add that plugin to gutsy+1 of Mythbuntu
[12:02] <therethinker> $laga do that and that and that and that
[12:02] <mythbot> laga is to work on do that and that and that and that
[12:02] <therethinker> rejoice! It works!
[12:02] <foxbuntu> $laga likes goats
[12:02] <mythbot> laga is to work on likes goats
[12:02] <therethinker> Should have not let foxbuntu see...
[12:02] <foxbuntu> haha
[12:02] <foxbuntu> therethinker, I see all...I know all
[12:02] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, if you can package it for the ppa i think that therethinker can make mcc enable the ppa repo
[12:03] <therethinker> Yeah, I can
[12:03] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, hmm
[12:03] <foxbuntu> I will have to get back on that one the n
[12:04] <superm1> oh i dont know about enabling the PPA repo.  that is the same place as weekly fixes
[12:04] <foxbuntu> we will see...I was close to done before...its just a python script
[12:04] <superm1> i dont think that's a good idea to have on so easily
[12:04] <foxbuntu> superm1, agreed there
[12:05] <tgm4883_laptop> superm1, right, what I meant was, enable a ppa repo
[12:05] <tgm4883_laptop> and that we should have an unofficial plugins repo
[12:05] <tgm4883_laptop> err ppa
[12:05] <superm1> not in mcc is all i'm saying
[12:05] <superm1> then people associate any problems from hitting that button with mythbuntu
[12:06] <foxbuntu> agreed...too man bafoons will enable and install potentialy unstable software
[12:06] <foxbuntu> thus finding their way here to $laga
[12:07] <tgm4883_laptop> yes, those bafoons
[12:07] <foxbuntu> $laga moron's with broken installs because therethinker enabled the ppa
[12:07] <mythbot> laga is to work on moron's with broken installs because therethinker enabled the ppa
[12:08] <foxbuntu> superm1, if I get that package ready for the apple thing what should I do with it?
[12:08] <foxbuntu> branch it?
[12:08] <superm1> worry about it later
[12:08] <therethinker> $therethinker debconf
[12:08] <superm1> focus on it after gutsy is out
[12:09] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:09] <foxbuntu> superm1, ok...its back off the list
[12:09] <therethinker> $therethinker debconf
[12:09] <foxbuntu> $wacks off
[12:09] <therethinker> $laga debconf
[12:09] <therethinker> :P
[12:09] <therethinker> $mcc
[12:09] <foxbuntu> $whacks off
[12:09] <foxbuntu> arg
[12:10] <tgm4883_laptop> haha
[12:10] <foxbuntu> $whacks off
[12:10] <therethinker> :P
[12:10] <foxbuntu> $porn
[12:10] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu needs a hobby
[12:10] <therethinker> :P
[12:10] <therethinker> tyes
[12:10] <foxbuntu> I know I do
[12:10] <tgm4883_laptop> well besides whacking off
[12:10] <foxbuntu> therethinker, what did you block bad words now?
[12:11] <therethinker> No :P
[12:11] <foxbuntu> $laga
[12:11] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, every time you do that god kills a kitten
[12:11] <therethinker> :P
[12:11] <foxbuntu> wow...lot of dead kittens out there then
[12:11] <superm1> !ohmy | foxbuntu
[12:11] <ubotu> foxbuntu: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:11] <foxbuntu> must be pilling up by now
[12:11] <foxbuntu> superm1, I like that one
[12:11] <therethinker> :P
[12:12] <therethinker> Yes, I agree :-)
[12:12] <foxbuntu> !ohmy | superm1
[12:12] <ubotu> superm1: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:12] <superm1> foxbuntu, seriously.
[12:12] <therethinker> Really
[12:12] <therethinker> dear god
[12:12] <therethinker> NOOOO
[12:14] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Todo, a Mexican humor magazine." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todo
[12:15] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Todo, a Mexican humor magazine." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todo
[12:15] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Todo, a Mexican humor magazine." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todo
[12:16] <therethinker> wow.. really sorry for bot spam,,, really
[12:17] <therethinker> Okay, really, good now ;-)
[12:18] <therethinker> $therethinker debconf
[12:18] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:18] <therethinker> $todo
[12:18] <mythbot> therethinker, you are you work on do something
[12:18] <therethinker> $todo
[12:18] <mythbot> therethinker, you are you work on debconf
[12:18] <therethinker>  :-)
[12:24] <therethinker> hello biffle
[12:24] <therethinker> hello andruk
[12:24] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:27] <laga> $todo
[12:27] <mythbot> laga, you are you work on moron's with broken installs because therethinker enabled the ppa
[12:27] <laga> what the hell.
[12:27] <therethinker> That was not me... I bet it was foxbuntu
[12:27] <therethinker> $laga whatever
[12:27] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga whatever", sorry.
[12:28] <therethinker> ...
[12:28] <laga> $therethinker fix broken bot
[12:28] <mythbot> therethinker is to work on fix broken bot
[12:28] <therethinker> $todo
[12:28] <mythbot> therethinker, you are you work on fix broken bot
[12:28] <therethinker> :D
[12:28] <therethinker> $laga whatever
[12:28] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga whatever", sorry.
[12:28] <therethinker> Ohh... right...  He mainly works on mcc.
[12:30] <laga> $laga
[12:30] <mythbot> laga is from Germany. He works on Mythbuntu.
[12:30] <therethinker2> try todo ;-)
[12:30] <laga> $todo
[12:30] <mythbot> laga, you are you work on moron's with broken installs because therethinker enabled the ppa
[12:31] <therethinker> $laga do whatever
[12:31] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:31] <therethinker> $laga do whatever you really want so okay this is long
[12:31] <laga> $therethinker fix it
[12:31] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:31] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:42] <therethinker> $therethinker fix it
[12:42] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:43] <therethinker> I think they'res a prob. w/ my name
[12:44] <laga> might be your karma
[12:44] <therethinker> $therethinker fix the bot
[12:44] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:44] <therethinker> GRahhH!
[12:44] <therethinker> $todo
[12:45] <mythbot> therethinker, you are you work on fix broken bot
[12:45] <therethinker> $therethinker fix broken bot
[12:45] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:53] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "please don't", sorry.
[12:53] <laga> o_O
[12:53] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga do", sorry.
[12:53] <therethinker> :P
[12:53] <therethinker> I'm testing :p
[12:54] <mythbot> Neither I, ubotu, or Wikipedia knows about "laga go", sorry.
[12:55] <therethinker> laga, can I get a $todo?
[12:55] <therethinker> $therethinker nothing, he fixed the bot!
[12:55] <mythbot> therethinker is to work on nothing, he fixed the bot!
[12:55] <therethinker> $todo
[12:55] <mythbot> therethinker, you are you work on nothing, he fixed the bot!
[12:55] <laga> $todo
[12:55] <mythbot> laga, you are you work on go do that
[12:56] <foxbuntu> superm1, you around?
[12:58] <laga> pong foxbuntu
[12:58] <laga> err, not really.
[12:58] <foxbuntu> laga, perhaps you know...
[12:58] <foxbuntu> is there a rough est on the release date for .21?
[12:59] <foxbuntu> there are some theme handling changes in .21 that I would like to dev around but...idk if .21 is going to be out soon enough
[12:59] <laga> it was supposed to be released around this time, but due to zap2it that didn't happen
[01:00] <laga> since there are some big oustandinges changes, eg another ffmpeg merge, it won't happen before christmas I GUESS
[01:02] <foxbuntu> hmm
[01:02] <foxbuntu> I am wondering what I should do then
[01:02] <laga> what's up?
[01:02] <directhex> another ffmpeg merge will be brilliant though
[01:02] <foxbuntu> build on new and try to back port, or build on new and forget a release for old until new is released
[01:02] <directhex> 0.21 will be the hd release!
[01:02] <laga> directhex: h264?
[01:02] <laga> directhex: heh
[01:03] <directhex> laga, precisely!
[01:03] <laga> yu
[01:03] <laga> p
[01:03] <directhex> everyone but the yanks uses h264 for hd
[01:03] <foxbuntu> laga, I am working on a Mythbuntu MythTV theme
[01:04] <laga> yeah. what features do you need?
[01:04] <foxbuntu> the new font rendering
[01:04] <foxbuntu> and a couple of others I think
[01:04] <foxbuntu> some OSD stuff
[01:04] <laga> hum
[01:04] <foxbuntu> I don't know them all off hand
[01:04] <foxbuntu> the font rendering the bigest
[01:04] <laga> didntz know there were so many changes
[01:05] <foxbuntu> tons
[01:05] <foxbuntu> its got me considering upgrading my live box from trunk
[01:05] <laga> do it for 0.20 then and forward-port stuff i'd say
[01:05] <foxbuntu> I hate to do that tho
[01:05] <laga> well, we have trunk builds ;)
[01:05] <foxbuntu> laga, ah yes...forgot about the builds
[01:06] <foxbuntu> laga, Idk if that theme will be that far along yet
[01:07] <laga> yes
[01:07] <foxbuntu> I may just wait to throw it in gutsy+1 release as a new package if things with other updates surrounding the new artwork take
[01:07] <laga> $idk
[01:07] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Below is a list of both complete and abbreviated internet slang phrases." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idk
[01:07] <foxbuntu> $laga idk
[01:07] <mythbot> laga is to work on idk
[01:08] <laga> o_O
[01:08] <foxbuntu> O_o
[01:09] <foxbuntu> laga, you not on the wrong side of the pond are you (with Daviey)
[01:09] <laga> i'm on the right side, with daviey
[01:09] <therethinker> :P
[01:09] <therethinker> $todo
[01:09] <mythbot> therethinker, you are you work on nothing, he fixed the bot!
[01:10] <therethinker> $therethinker finding something good
[01:10] <mythbot> therethinker is to work on finding something good
[01:10] <therethinker> $todo
[01:10] <foxbuntu> $todo
[01:10] <mythbot> therethinker, you are you work on finding something good
[01:10] <mythbot> foxbuntu, you are you work on http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7037443.stm
[01:10] <therethinker> Voila
[01:10] <therethinker> Hello Tari!
[01:10] <foxbuntu> crazy brits
[01:11] <therethinker> I'm not british
[01:11] <laga> foxbuntu: whats up with the pond?
[01:11] <foxbuntu> but the article was from the bbc.co.uk
[01:11] <therethinker> Ohhh :P
[01:11] <therethinker> it happened in aussi, though
[01:11] <foxbuntu> laga, the pond
[01:11] <therethinker> foxbuntu; hahaha
[01:11] <foxbuntu> therethinker the makes sense
[01:11] <MythbuntuGuest91> hello
[01:12] <therethinker> $hello
[01:12] <foxbuntu> Hello
[01:12] <mythbot> Welcome to #Ubuntu-mythtv.  Please state your question or comment.
[01:12] <foxbuntu> therethinkernice
[01:12] <therethinker> :-)
[01:12] <foxbuntu> $goodbye
[01:12] <therethinker> tgm4883 made it ;-)
[01:12] <mythbot> Sorry, I neither I or ubotu knew, but Wikipedia says: "Goodbye is a traditional parting phrase used in the English language." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye
[01:12] <therethinker> lmao-- no
[01:12] <foxbuntu> argh
[01:12] <therethinker> MythbuntuGuest91: please excuse foxbuntu here...
[01:12] <MythbuntuGuest91> lol
[01:12] <foxbuntu> ...
[01:12] <therethinker> what is your question/comment/concern?
[01:12] <MythbuntuGuest91> that was funny
[01:13] <laga> superm1: i think i fixed the crash.
[01:13] <therethinker> or did you just drop by to say hello?
[01:13] <MythbuntuGuest91> is this where i ask questions about mythbuntu
[01:13] <laga> MythbuntuGuest91: yes
[01:13] <MythbuntuGuest91> cool
[01:13] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest91, yup
[01:13] <foxbuntu> laga has no answers however
[01:13] <MythbuntuGuest91> ok i got it installed now.. i do not know that to do
[01:14] <therethinker> did you run mythtv-setup?
[01:14] <MythbuntuGuest91> i think so
[01:14] <MythbuntuGuest91> yes
[01:15] <MythbuntuGuest91> i guess my question is. what is a good not to expensive video card
[01:15] <foxbuntu> video card or tuner?
[01:15] <therethinker> $specs
[01:15] <mythbot> Looking for recommended hardware specs?  Look no further than here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570204
[01:15] <therethinker> is there one on there?
[01:15] <MythbuntuGuest91> what do i do if i have a hd tv?
[01:15] <therethinker> to do HDTV, you'll need a computer with at least 3Ghtz proccessor
[01:16] <therethinker> and a good tuner
[01:16] <directhex> therethinker that's something of an oversimplification isn't it? 3ghz of pentium-4 won't get you very far with h264
[01:16] <therethinker> note the "at least"
[01:16] <therethinker> If you have under that, it won't work :P
[01:17] <MythbuntuGuest91> aww.. that sucks
[01:17] <therethinker> but standard def, you can do.
[01:17] <therethinker> The PVR-150 is really great
[01:17] <directhex> MythbuntuGuest91, where are you based globally? it makes a difference to what you can watch
[01:17] <MythbuntuGuest91> so this is not a good replacement for my dvr?
[01:17] <MythbuntuGuest91> texas
[01:17] <directhex> therethinker but dumb in countries with an open dvb network
[01:17] <MythbuntuGuest91> waco
[01:18] <directhex> bleh, yankland. best to do whatever one of the local yanklanders says then. it'll be unpleasant
[01:18] <therethinker> directhex; but he's in the US... I checked his IP :P
[01:18] <therethinker> (and he confirmed that)
[01:19] <directhex> therethinker, i assumed mythbuntuguestfoo was some kind of cgi-irc, not a direct connection
[01:19] <therethinker> well, it isn't
[01:19] <MythbuntuGuest91> so a tivo box is better than this
[01:19] <therethinker> unless the server is in waco texas too
[01:19] <therethinker> MythbuntuGuest91: well, it depends what you want to do
[01:19] <therethinker> this is really great if you want to watch it on several TVs
[01:20] <MythbuntuGuest91> i want to replace my tivo
[01:20] <therethinker> or, if you already have a computer with the specs
[01:20] <MythbuntuGuest91> hmm
[01:21] <foxbuntu> MythbuntuGuest91, I call Mythbuntu TiVO on Steriods
[01:21] <MythbuntuGuest91> where are yall?


[09:24] <rmg51> Morning
[12:13] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples
[12:17] <InHisName> morning bears
[12:29] <teddy-dbear> only one bear here
[12:39] <InHisName> you never know if others have secret bears reading while they are sleeping or away or whatever. Holy Cow there could even be a stuffed bunny too.  As long as they stay incognito and never type a thing, we'll never know.
[13:11] <waltman> Morning.
[14:42] <ChinnoDog> bacon
[14:46] <ChinnoDog> I overcooked it a tad
[14:46] <ChinnoDog> Still pretty tasty though
[17:48] <InHisName> when I click on file abc.xyz gedit starts and tries to edit the file.  It's not text so complains a lot after taking forever to load.    WHERE do I go to stop gedit from running xyz files but to do runwithxyz instead ?


[04:10] <arraybolt3> JackFrost: Got a bit of spare time to help a fellow flavor in need?
[04:11] <arraybolt3> Currently fighting with Pipewire and could use some help since you just figured out how to do this.
[04:12] <arraybolt3> Basically, if I remove Pulseaudio from Lubuntu and install Pipewire, pipewire-pulse, and wireplumber, I get audio and video working, but once I reboot, Firefox becomes extremely unstable. Videos will play for a bit, but it crashes at random during playback or even while just scrolling YouTube.
[04:12] <arraybolt3> If I then switch back to Pulseaudio, the issue disappears.
[04:13] <arraybolt3> On Xubuntu, Firefox and Pipewire just work. I'm wondering if you did any fancy tricks (perhaps modifying Wireplumber's config?) to make things work, or if there's just an incompatibility somewhere that me and the Lubuntu devs need to work out.
[04:32] <JackFrost> arraybolt3: https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-seed/commit/2a137409b7c3533c59becbc97a776ac7650e7aac is basically what we did.
[04:32] -ubottu:#xubuntu-devel- Commit 2a13740 in Xubuntu/xubuntu-seed "Switch to pipewire (LP: #1993942) (#47)"
[04:32] <arraybolt3> That was it? Just a seed modification?
[04:32] <arraybolt3> Grr... that's basically what I'm trying!
[04:33] <arraybolt3> What's even weirder is, if I install Lubuntu, then add xubuntu-desktop and switch to Pipewire, it breaks in XFCE too.
[04:33] <arraybolt3> So *something* in Lubuntu must be incompatible with Pipewire I guess...