[17:03] <Montresor> pleia2: dev.xubuntu.org will be affected by the openssl 3.x bug I'm sure, I'll either restart the affected services or host.


[00:33] <ubptgbot> Elie Hs was added by: Elie Hs
 hi, which Halium version should i use for lineageos 17.1 and i didn't find version 10
 @letscrackthecode [hi, which Halium version should i use for lineageos 17.1 and i didn't find versi …], no halium for 17.1/10.0 yet
 i'm running 17 on my device what should i do?
 @letscrackthecode [i'm running 17 on my device what should i do?], then wait until someone do it for you
 or you can manually port android 10 to halium yourself
 (might require more work than you thought)
 also please join t.me/halium if you want to ask halium related questions
 this group is only for ubports
 thqnk you
 [Edit] thank you
 @letscrackthecode [i'm running 17 on my device what should i do?], What is the original Android version of this device?
 9
 i mean pie
 in miui and now 10
 Then you can probably use Halium 9 and maybe even the generic system image if its a Treble device
 Its not the question what you are using now but if there exists an (best official) Android 5.1, 7.1 or 9, for that we have ported layers
 @Flohack [Then you can probably use Halium 9 and maybe even the generic system image if it …], are you saying that ? i can use halium 9 in lineage os 17
 @letscrackthecode [are you saying that ? i can use halium 9 in lineage os 17], You will need to reset your device to Android 9 first, to initialize eventual vendor partition etc. But basically that would be the base for your Halium port. Which device do you have?
 redmi note 5 pro
 It is not in the list of our ports, so you would need to start a porting process probably. Do you have a lot of time and motivation :)
 @Flohack [It is not in the list of our ports, so you would need to start a porting process …], i love linux
 @letscrackthecode [i love linux], Well love might not be enough, you need to know how to compile & modify a kernel, how to do small scripts, permission changes etc. Porting needs a very distinct skillset, bit of Android knowledge, bit of Linux
 And basic C/C++ knowledge to fix compile errors ^^
 Is it possible to use halium-9 + non-gsi ubuntu touch?
 @Flohack [Well love might not be enough, you need to know how to compile & modify a kernel …], do i need to install lineage os
 do port halium
 Maybe. I am not on the latest infos regarding support of 9. I know it works with GSI, but for the other devices idk
 [Edit] to port halium
 @letscrackthecode [do i need to install lineage os], No, see this docs plz: http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 (Photo, 722x78) https://irc.ubports.com/qr24ruSV.png Also you have to go to another page to get a systemimage first:
 (Photo, 706x100) https://irc.ubports.com/8YvhVmgb.png this says i need lineage os
 @letscrackthecode [<reply to media>], http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html
 @letscrackthecode [<reply to media>], "Source code required to build lineageOS" = Device tree
 @letscrackthecode [<reply to media>], Yes you need the source code not the installation ^^
 it seems i have a lot of work
 Yes you have :)
 Guess why there are not so many devices which work fully
 People spend months and months trying to get stuff working. Its not easy, but fun
 @letscrackthecode [it seems i have a lot of work], It's not a lot of work to get it to build, you should be done in a day or two, the hard part is resolving issues/getting it to boot
 👍😁 thank you guys
 @letscrackthecode [👍😁 thank you guys], Join https://t.me/ubports_porting if you want to get more info
 how to use android apps in ubports without anbox
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 hi, just join this group
 @Hisbul_Wathoni [hi, just join this group], Hey!
 is there someone has try to install in lavender?
 use halium-boot from https://build.lolinet.com/file/halium/lavender/ + https://build.lolinet.com/file/halium/GSI/ubports_GSI_installer_v9.zip
 otherwise you may join @halium for help
 okeh
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 Welcome to all new members
 Hello
 I flashed twrp recovery
 And trying to flash custom rom
 But getting an error 7 and its failing
 Can someone please help me out
 are you asking for help with installing android on some device?
 this group is about Ubuntu Touch
 Device : bacon oneplus one
 And had ubuntu touch as OS
 @dohbee [are you asking for help with installing android on some device?], reverting back to android from ubuntu touch
 if you want to go back to Android you need to follow the instructions for whatever ROM you want to flash. we can't really help with that in here. You might want to start by trying the OEM flashing instructions to do a full flash to restore the device back to factory OS
 It seems twrp is not able to recognizw file system i felt
 Hence wnted to check if i was doing something wrong
 @dohbee [if you want to go back to Android you need to follow the instructions for whatev …], Anways thank you 😊
 City: Ely, GB … Temperature: 16°C … Description: Scattered clouds … Wind: 4.6 m/s … Sunrise: 04:50 … Sunset: 21:18
 @7B6 [It seems twrp is not able to recognizw file system i felt], Just an info, Ubuntu Touch does not touch either partition format or size, we just copy stuff into user data folder which is basically just mounted. So, adb should recognize it, and you could check in recovery that this folder is still there and writable, enough space etc
 @Άρης [City: Ely, GB … Temperature: 16°C … Description: Scattered clouds … Wind: 4.6 m/s … Sunr …], wrong group? :)
 Kids messing with the phone, apologies!
 They leaked your location :-/
 Too good nobody does those creepy things here
 Indeed! Thankfully my city's all they leaked, I can live with that
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[20:29] <ubptgbot> <kill bmJ day zOc> (Photo, 516x670) https://irc.ubports.com/DtfXQJoE.png
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rcXI5w_u7s
 @tankdnb [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rcXI5w_u7s], sadly, no english subs. but this vid got 120k views in 7 hours, not bad at all in terms of spreading the word among the ru speaking guys.
 @tankdnb [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rcXI5w_u7s], Better to post in Russian language group https://t.me/UBports_Ru
[22:27] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> Is it possible to compile Unity8 / Lomiri on other platforms?
[22:27] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> I'm on opensuse at the moment.
 mostly lomiri can be compiled yes
 it's not really usable on PCs yet though, and different distros being different can create other problems
[22:30] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> I was going to be developing with it.
[22:30] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> Not really using it as a daily driver
[22:30] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> Well, developing on my own branch
 of lomiri?
 to fix issues or add features to it? or what?
[22:33] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> Fix issues
[22:33] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> Maybe add features along the way.
 ah ok. you might want to look at using the x86 qemu image as a means of testing changes, and perhaps use an ubuntu touch 16.04 container (lxc/docker/whatever) as a means to build it, unless you want to work on "porting" it to opensuse or such too
[22:35] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> Yeah
[22:36] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> I'll probably use the VM thing opensuse includes
[22:37] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> I appreciate your help
 no problem


[00:18] <lactose>  so i am trying to set up rails with unicorn. i have my unicorn
[00:18] <lactose>                  config.rb file set up, and if i run unicorn_rails -c
[00:18] <lactose>                  /path/to/config.rb as my user everything starts up fine and i
[00:18] <lactose> woops
[00:19] <lactose> so i am trying to set up rails with unicorn.  i have my unicorn config.rb file set up, and if i run unciorn_rails -c /path/to/config.rb as my user everything starts up fine and i can view the website. however ifi run the Upstart script, I get no error message, (and the script basically exec sudo -u myuser -i `unicorn_rails -c 'path/to/config'` but i cant view the website. im redirected to my 500 error page (in the logs it says 111 con
[00:32] <SpamapS> lactose: probably something in your environment that is needed. Maybe try adding > /var/log/myjob.log 2>&1 to see if there are helpful errors.
[00:32]  * SpamapS disappears
[00:36] <lactose> SpamapS: I have done so, and the file is empty
[00:37] <lactose> SpamapS: do yo uthink that the unicorn_rails command cannot be accessed -- my ruby install is through rvm and I personally cannot run this command unless I am in the working directory. But if this were the case, why is the error log file blank?
[00:51] <lactose> SpamapS: this was the problem. I chowned the .conf file in /etc/init to myuser and transferred the command to .sh in the directory of the rails app, then the conf simply exec the .sh. Do you see any security or other problem with this approach?
[00:51] <lactose> anybody else can answer that as well
[07:22] <SpamapS> lactose: you shouldn't need to chown the upstart job to your user.. that should not change who the job runs as.


[10:50] <guiverc> i just saw reference to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Klipper on a reddit question; it was last available according to `rmadison` for trusty; yet the 'discontinued' notice appears to have been removed by tomtomtom from wiki; the discontinued notice appears valid to me
[10:52] <guiverc> s/reddit/askubuntu ^  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1397973/how-to-install-klipper-what-would-you-suggest-instead-if-the-package-is-not-any
[11:34] <RikMills> guiverc: it still exists. it has just been absorbed on plasma-workspace
[11:34] <RikMills> s/on/into
[11:34] <guiverc> okay so fakenews (reason for removal of warning) makes sense..  thanks RikMills
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Probably not. We have an unused one as it is (re @ahoneybun: @RikMills would another build server be useful?)
 Ah
[17:23] <Eickmeyer> Is anybody else having trouble getting driver manager to work in Jammy?
 I thought it was dropped?
[17:25] <Eickmeyer> @ahoneybun: The old package was dropped, yes, but in System Settings > Driver Manager it's still a thing so that one can access software-manager-qt via that interface.
 the sources thing that is linked to from Discover?
[17:26] <Eickmeyer> No, this is specifically for the "Additional Drivers" tab in software-manager.
 It looks like I need to be in the wheel group?
[17:27] <Eickmeyer> You should be in wheel as a regular admin.
 Well it says often it is wheel
[17:27] <Eickmeyer> Unfortunately, that's not a good solution anyhow as it should *just work*.
[17:28] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, it says often it is wheel, which means something in pkexec is off afaict.
[17:28] <Eickmeyer> This is *critical* for people installing non-free drivers, such as nvidia or broadcom.
 I haven't rebooted yet after some updates since I had to remove VLC for them to apply.
[17:30] <Eickmeyer> Oh, weird.
 I'm restoring some backups then I can reboot
 Yea vlc-bin was weird. It's like that on my laptop and desktop.
[17:30] <Eickmeyer> Well, you confirmed the issue. Might have to write a polkit action for it.
 Glad I could confirm it at least.
 I'm up for testing the fix as well.
[17:31] <Eickmeyer> Ok. Well, I'll try to get a pull request or something. The issue is in the kubuntu-settings source package.
[17:32] <Eickmeyer> Having the same issue in Studio, so I'll probably get it there first.
 It's nice having another distro using the Qt installer lol
[17:32] <Eickmeyer> Well, we're not using Ubiquity because the Ubiquity Qt installer is hardocoded for Kubuntu.
[17:33] <Eickmeyer> We're using Calamares.
 Ah I didn't think a flavor could do it tbh.
 Can we pull out snapd from our ISO? lol
[17:33] <Eickmeyer> Oh yes. Lubuntu was using it already.
 Mm
[17:33] <Eickmeyer> Hehehe, I don't think so. Firefox will be a snap, no way around it.
 Is that why I haven't gotten v98 on jammy?
 I have the deb package installed.
[17:59] <mamarley> For individual users, if you're willing to use the Firefox beta, you can use the deb package from https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next/+packages.  You will need to put "Package: *\nPin: release o=LP-PPA-mozillateam-firefox-next\nPin-Priority: 700" in your /etc/apt/preferences.d/ to get APT to see it as the latest version though.
[17:59] <mamarley> You can, of course, also use the official builds from Mozilla, either in release or Beta.
[17:59] <mamarley> For people like me who don't want any snaps at all.
[18:42] <Eickmeyer> FYI: It looks like the problem is that software-properties-qt is completely broken.
[18:43] <Eickmeyer> Unless run with sudo? Weird...
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> mamarley: That's great and all, but we can't do that for the ISO image.
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> Anyhow, I have a fix for the driver manager bug, but it'
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> s ugly and relies on xterm.
[19:35] <valorie> if Firefox available as flatpak?
 It is.
[19:35] <valorie> I've had good luck with them (signal, telegram)
[19:35] <valorie> @ahoneybun what is the packagename in flatpak?
[19:36] <valorie> I guess I would have to uninstall what I have
 firefox
[19:36] <valorie> chrome does not play nice with a few sites like GSoC
[19:36] <valorie> oddly
[19:37] <valorie> sweet! and simple
 If we have to ship snapd can we just not ship Firefox as a snap?
[19:39] <Eickmeyer> @ahoneybun Firefox will not be available as a .deb in Jammy.
 the flatpak not the deb
 Is that why I haven't gotten an update on jammy?
[19:40] <Eickmeyer> Oh, shipping flatpaks is a no-no per the TB. I tried.
 TB?
[19:40] <Eickmeyer> Technical Board
 Oh ffs
 Back to Arch I go.
[19:40] <valorie> we don't have to ship it
[19:41] <valorie> it's available on the hub
 I know but pre-installed is better.
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> valorie: But anything from flathub cannot be pre-installed.
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> Per the TB.
[19:41] <valorie> do we not pre-install?
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> (I tried)
[19:41] <valorie> we always have
 The snap is preinstalled.
 Yes, as 98 was the last full .deb. The next FF in jammy will be the snap transitional (stuck in proposed at the moment) (re @ahoneybun: Is that why I haven't gotten an update on jammy?)
[19:41] <valorie> ah, got it
 I didn't get 98 I was on 97 for days.
[19:42] <Eickmeyer> In Studio we switched to full seeded snap for FF.
 Whoops. I mean 97 was the last (re @ahoneybun: I didn't get 98 I was on 97 for days.)
[19:42] <valorie> ah well
[19:42] <valorie> I dislike snap but do not hate it
 Kubuntu also now seeds the snap on the ISO
[19:42] <valorie> it is a tool I prefer not to use
[19:42] <Eickmeyer> Well, this wasn't even Canonical's call, it was Mozilla.
 Was it?
[19:43] <valorie> ?
[19:43] <valorie> moz did not want .deb?
[19:43] <Eickmeyer> Yep. Mozilla changed the distribution agreement and wanted it as a snap and to manage it directly.
 Canonical has been building the deb anyway.
[19:44] <Eickmeyer> @ahoneybun Yes, temporarily.
 Mm
 Fedora is the new Ubuntu haha
[19:45] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, well, even Mozilla is looking at keeping them from building an RPM and using flatpak as the distribution method there.
 What about Arch?
 Like the only way to really stop that would be to not share the source code.
[19:45] <Eickmeyer> Don't know, but Mozilla wants direct control over their FF distribution anymore.
 I think Arch ships the mozilla built binary? (re @ahoneybun: What about Arch?)
 Well good thing we have a lot of chrome based browsers lol
[19:46] <Eickmeyer> Mozilla is shooting themselves in the foot, but it's their call.
 That's true.
[19:50] <valorie> @ahoneybun I see
[19:50] <valorie> 1) app/org.mozilla.firefox.BaseApp/x86_64/20.08
[19:50] <valorie>    2) app/org.mozilla.firefox.BaseApp/x86_64/21.08
[19:50] <valorie>    3) app/org.mozilla.firefox/x86_64/stable
[19:50] <valorie> which is best -- just stable?
 Most likely 3
 Yep
 I don't know the other ones.
[19:50] <valorie> done
[19:51] <RikMills> ooooh. I have jellyfish svgs!
 Yayay
[19:52] <valorie> weeee
[19:52] <valorie> I look forward to kewl arts
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/8e43dced/file_54239.jpg
[19:58] <RikMills> forwarded email to @ahoneybun and valorie
 yay
 I need to get protonmail to send email as @kubuntu.org
 Unless I can get that updated.
[19:59] <valorie> thank you, RikMills -- my art never made the jump to my computer, unfortunately
[19:59] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: \o/
[20:00] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: I have a debdiff for you re: bug 1965439, unless you'd rather I jfd the upload.
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> Ignore ubottu, it's also a bug in kubuntu-settings.
[20:04] <Eickmeyer> @RikMills ^
 RikMills: do you have colored versions?
[20:06] <Eickmeyer> @ahoneybun: I'm guessing one can just get the .svg to do whatever one wants re: colors
 Well they usually have some color not just grey
[20:07] <Eickmeyer> It was emailed to flavor leads.
 Well Rik forwarded to me.
[20:07] <Eickmeyer> Ah, cool. Colorization is easy to do in inkscape.
 All I got was grey (re @ahoneybun: Well they usually have some color not just grey)
[20:09] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: I was going to have a quick did into the driver manager thing myself 1st
[20:09] <RikMills> *dig
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Yeah, no worries. Basically, pkexec is broken when called by system-settings, breaking the driver manager thing.
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> I tried to use pkexec every which way from Sunday, and using xterm was the only solution that actually worked, which seems weird.
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> And software-properties-qt just mocks you if you try to launch it without.
[20:11] <RikMills> Yeah, I will likely fail to find another way, but will at least look
[20:11] <Eickmeyer> Well, if you do find a way without using my debdiff, feel free, and let me know so that I can adjust Studio accordingly.
[20:12] <RikMills> ack
[20:14] <RikMills> opensuse have some similar things to launch their distro tools from systemsettings, so they may have bumped up against something similar with recent policykit
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/456755f5/file_54248.jpg
 WIP
[21:06] <valorie> @ahoneybun - is it permissible to color the jelly a bit? with say, transparent blue and orange?
 I may be able to .