[00:33] <vukasin> hello anyone here up to help me with something?
[00:45] <luca__> hi all
[01:19] <pablo_> Buenas noches
[01:19] <pablo_> Alguien podría indicarme cómo hago para desinstalar el escritorio de Ubuntu una vez que instalé Mate?
[01:20] <nomic> !bra
[01:20] <nomic> !pt
[01:20] <nomic> !sp
[01:20] <nomic> !es
[01:21] <pablo_> Somebady can tell me how can I uninstall Ubuntu desktop since I've installed Mate?
[01:25] <nomic> erm
[01:25] <nomic> is on separate partition?
[01:25] <nomic> you can delete the partition
[01:25] <nomic> gparted
[01:26] <nomic> gparted = partition management
[01:26] <nomic> log into mate
[01:26] <nomic> sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:26] <nomic> sudo gparted
[01:26] <nomic> select the ubuntu partition
[01:26] <nomic> delete
[01:26] <nomic> resize the ubuntu mate partition, to use up the space
[01:26] <nomic> read about "gparted" pablo_
[01:27] <nomic> ubuntu, mate, you have on separate PARTITIONs
[01:27] <nomic> gparted = the partition manager
[01:27] <nomic> you must boot into mate to utilise/operate on your ubuntu partition -- you can only change partitions that are not mounted
[01:27] <nomic> (being used)
[01:28] <nomic> delete the ubuntu partition .. resize the mate partition to use up the space
[01:29] <nomic> http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/larry/resize/big/resize-1-mouse-b.gif   <- resizing
[01:29] <nomic> you drag the partition across to use up the unallocated space
[01:29] <pablo_> I've installed Mate over Ubuntu, and I am very satisfied
[01:29] <nomic> uhu
[01:29] <nomic> mate is very good
[01:29] <nomic> I have it on raspberry pi 3s :)
[01:29] <pablo_> But I want to keep Mate and discard Unity
[01:30] <pablo_> I don't know hoy discard my ancient Ubuntu
[01:30] <nomic> i told you ^
[01:30] <nomic> how
[01:30] <nomic> use gparted
[01:30] <nomic> = partition manager
[01:30] <nomic> delete the ubuntu partition
[01:30] <pablo_> ButI have no different partitions
[01:30] <nomic> expand the mate partition to use all the space
[01:30] <nomic> where is it then
[01:31] <pablo_> I have one partition for home and another for system
[01:31] <nomic> does mate/ubuntu reside on the same disk
[01:31] <nomic> if so it is in partitions
[01:32] <pablo_> Humm
[01:32] <pablo_> I can't understand
[01:33] <nomic> if ubuntu/mate are on the same hard disk drive
[01:33] <nomic> they are in partitions
[01:33] <pablo_> Because Ubuntu Mate and Ubuntu Desktop are located on same hard disk and same partition
[01:34] <nomic> they aren't in the same partition
[01:34] <nomic> unless you have one as a virtual machine (virtualbox)
[01:35] <nomic> they can't be in the same partition
[01:35] <nomic> partitions enable you to separately allocate the OS/data
[01:35] <pablo_> LOL, they are
[01:37] <nomic> when you boot you see a menu ubuntu/mate   = the boot manager
[01:37] <nomic> boots to partition
[01:41] <pablo_> I'm trying to send you a screenshot, but I can't
[01:41] <pablo_> But I have no differents partitions for Mate & Ubuntu
[01:42] <pablo_> My gparted doesn't show more than one system partition
[01:43] <nomic> how is ubuntu/mate running
[01:43] <nomic> how do you select either/or
[01:44] <pablo_> At login screen
[01:44] <pablo_> When system has booted yet
[01:46] <nomic> you are only running mate
[01:46] <nomic> or ubuntu
[01:47] <pablo_> Just Mate
[01:51] <nomic> go to #ubuntu , ask there
[01:51] <nomic> or forums
[01:51] <nomic> if you don't see it as a partition
[01:51] <nomic> how is it running
[01:51] <nomic> you are running ubuntu / different desktops
[01:54] <pablo_> Yes, I'm running ubuntu / different desktops, ut I want to keep just Mate
[01:58] <pablo_> Well, I'm going
[01:58] <pablo_> Thank you very much for your help
[01:58] <pablo_> Bye
[18:24] <alyana> hi everyone is this a channel to ask a question?
[18:26] <Akuli> yes
[18:28] <alyana> oh good thanks, maybe someone could answer me that. I have installed ubuntu-mate 16.04.1, and in the application where to determine how often it should look for updates and security updates, I did set to download and install security updates immediately. Now after reopening that, this option is blank and not selectable anymore. Is that a bug or intended or...?
[18:29] <alyana> I can still set how often it should look for other updates, and when to notify. But the drop down box in the middle, about the security updates, is greyed out
[18:30] <Akuli> i just remove the updater when i'm done installing ubuntu, and i update with the terminal :)
[18:32] <alyana> oh I see, when you update with the terminal, does that include all the available updates then, no matter what type of update it is (security, application, whatever...) ?
[18:33] <Akuli> yes, everything.
[18:34] <Akuli> first i run sudo aptitude update to refresh my package lists, then sudo aptitude upgrade to actually download and install the updates
[18:38] <alyana> ok thank you. I will do that too then. I just wondered why I could not change the settings anymore in that dropdown box. Any other option in there is working well, also in the other tabs everything looks ok. Just under "Updates" the option about the security updates is blank and grey, and if something like that appears, I just want to know why.
[18:38] <Akuli> that sounds indeed weird
[18:39] <Akuli> then again, thats why i like the terminal :) it lets me control my system more directly
[18:40] <alyana> yes, I am starting to use the terminal more and more often as well... however disappearing options like that make me nervous :) I could set it once. then I closed the application. Everything seems fine. Reopening it, gives that behaviour. I have veryfied that on two different machines now.
[18:40] <alyana> and I did that directly after a fresh install
[18:41] <alyana> maybe that application 'application & updates' itself needs an update :) This has not happened on any other distro I have tried out
[18:47] <alyana> I have to logout, talk to you another time :) thanks for your help!
[19:56] <koza> hi all
[19:57] <ouroumov_> hi koza
[20:54] <dav_> is awesome!
[20:54] <dav_> *ubuntu mate is awesome!
[21:39] <Bill_MI> Hiya ouroumov ouroumov_
[21:39] <ouroumov_> lol hi Bill_MI
[21:39] <rahtgaz> hey Bill_MI
[21:39] <Bill_MI> Hehe... just answered you.  Thanks for asking. :-)
[21:39] <ouroumov_> ^^
[21:40] <Bill_MI> Hiya rahtgaz
[21:40] <rahtgaz> It's marfig from the forums here
[21:40] <Bill_MI> Ah!  Didn't recognize you with your nick on. :-)
[21:40] <rahtgaz> good to see you on IRC :)
[21:41] <Bill_MI> Always good to see the gang.
[21:42] <ouroumov_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1622257
[21:42] <Bill_MI> There ya go.  LOL, got the community update too.
[21:43] <rahtgaz> let me just confirm it on my VM and I'll add myself as affected
[21:43] <ouroumov_> If you can check yourself as affected that should automatically remove the "New" status after a while for "Confirmed"
[21:43] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, cool thanks
[21:43] <Bill_MI> I wonder if integration between those packages needs some work.  I have used unattended-upgrades on Ubuntu servers.  It's not really GUI.
[21:44] <ouroumov_> I remember a while back while checking the update details on some packages in Xenial that it was to solve a missing dependency, and nothing else.
[21:44] <ouroumov_> With some luck we can expect an SRU.
[21:44] <ouroumov_> :]
[21:45] <Bill_MI> ok, since launchpad changed authentication I haven't been there much.
[21:45] <Bill_MI> But I got there :-)
[21:45] <ouroumov_> ^^
[21:46] <Bill_MI> And thanks for the mention.  I saw it. :-)
[21:46] <ouroumov_> For the glory :D
[21:46] <rahtgaz> yup. missing dependency already. Or rather, it's not listed as a dependency
[21:46] <Bill_MI> Lucky hunch.
[21:47] <rahtgaz> check 'apt-cache rdepends unattended-upgrades'
[21:47] <Bill_MI> Did you see the thread where Wimpy suggested it?  I sort of thought it was to stop notifying.
[21:48] <ouroumov_> Yeah I checked it out, it was indeed kind of an out-of-the-blue comment
[21:48] <Bill_MI> The Software Updater trying to notify from the app tray screws compiz.
[21:49] <Bill_MI> Yeah, reading more into it... maybe he was on some sort of need for the package.
[21:50] <ouroumov_> btw Wimpy is flexiondotorg on IRC.
[21:50] <ouroumov_> Oh hey the software updater is telling me of some updates to network connections
[21:50] <rahtgaz> I didn't know that. I think I have him on my ignore list
[21:51] <rahtgaz> kiding :p
[21:51] <Bill_MI> Ah!  I knew that, too.
[21:51] <ouroumov_> Apparently they fixed the wrong icon issue, that's cool if that works
[21:51] <Bill_MI> He's a busy guy.
[21:52] <Bill_MI> I use synaptic for everything but always curious with Softare Updater also says.
[21:52] <Bill_MI> I love synaptic's searchable history.
[21:53] <ouroumov_> Checkout that list of changes: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+changelog
[21:53] <ouroumov_> Maybe networking will finally be fixed in xenial
[21:53] <Bill_MI> Old Ubuntu updater used to be a *synaptic* app.  But they've gotten away from that.
[21:54] <ouroumov_> Does synaptic also logs the changes if we don't use it for the updates?
[21:54] <Bill_MI> Oh geeze... don't get me started on NetworkDismanager.
[21:55] <ouroumov_> 'Cause I like the sound of "searchable history"
[21:55] <Bill_MI> It only logs updates if you use synaptic, unfortunately.
[21:55] <rahtgaz> don't understand what you guys are talking about?
[21:55] <rahtgaz> changes?
[21:56] <Bill_MI> Yeah, synaptic logs all installs, upgrades, etc.
[21:57] <Bill_MI> Ubuntu's old (10.04) updater added to it.  But no more
[21:57] <Bill_MI> It's a dumb text search... it'll find all update actions with a version number or a package name.
[21:58] <rahtgaz> Oh, right. I understand. Yes. Even if you removed the repository, it will keep the log
[21:58] <Bill_MI> It's not the update log, like in a terminal... but just... let me get one...
[21:59] <Bill_MI> ok... the very recent weather update entry, together with everything else it di at that same "Apply"....
[22:00] <Bill_MI> Commit Log for Fri Sep  9 06:26:53 2016
[22:00] <Bill_MI> Upgraded the following packages:
[22:00] <Bill_MI> libimlib2 (1.4.7-1build1) to 1.4.7-1ubuntu0.1
[22:00] <Bill_MI> libmateweather-common (1.14.1-1~xenial1.1) to 1.14.3-1~xenial1.1
[22:00] <Bill_MI> libmateweather1 (1.14.1-1~xenial1.1) to 1.14.3-1~xenial1.1
[22:00] <Bill_MI> That's all the log is.
[22:00] <Bill_MI> I didn't get kicked for flooding :-)
[22:01] <Bill_MI> I have every package changed from install.
[22:02] <ouroumov_> Bill_MI, do you have the reason for the changes too?
[22:02] <rahtgaz> no :(
[22:02] <Bill_MI> Nope.  But synaptic has "Change Log"
[22:03] <Bill_MI> ...many PPAs don't support that function, though.
[22:03] <rahtgaz> You mean download chenge log, I think
[22:03] <rahtgaz> that was fixed btw, Bill_MI. It just needs to trickle down into the next SRU
[22:04] <ouroumov_> Bill_MI, actually if I'm not mistaken there was a bug in the updater that meant updates from ppa
[22:04] <ouroumov_> damn rahtgaz beat me to it
[22:04] <rahtgaz> yeah. We can now get the change log from PPAs. But may still take a while before we get that update
[22:05] <Bill_MI> I think it's just a file on the repo someone needs to make.  Never really looked into it.
[22:05] <Bill_MI> Ah, good.  Didn't know it was a bug.
[22:05] <rahtgaz> not a bug a think. it resulted form a feature request... 8 years old lol
[22:06] <Bill_MI> You get "Coming from a source that doesn't support Change Logs"
[22:06] <rahtgaz> better later than never, i say
[22:06] <Bill_MI> or sompin' like that.
[22:06] <ouroumov_> lol count on the bug report is 4 affected, I think v3xx marked himself too
[22:07] <rahtgaz> fair enough :)
[22:08] <Bill_MI> Unfortunately, Synaptic is accumulating more bugs than the Amazon. :-(
[22:08] <rahtgaz> the good thing is that I think it will also work with loca deb packages.
[22:08] <rahtgaz> local*
[22:08] <Bill_MI> Little things not worth the time.
[22:09] <Bill_MI> One of the big companies... Sun?  wrote Synaptic originally.
[22:11] <rahtgaz> That's the thing that bothers me about synpatic. I'd like to be more vocal in its support. But that's hard to do when you should only use a limited set of its features
[22:11] <Bill_MI> Exactly.  It's not like you can recommend it to new users.
[22:17] <rahtgaz> ouroumov_: I'm preparing a tutorial for the forums on Pelican as a note app. I've finished the web template for a note taker and have been only perfecting it. So, I'm already using it and have uninstalled Cherry Tree
[22:17] <rahtgaz> I'll be giving credit to you on the idea :)
[22:18] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, nice. I'll be sure to look it up.
[22:18] <rahtgaz> I've just been a little busy for the past couple of weeks, so my forum presence has been limited. Not sure about the upcoming week. But I'll start my vancations the week after. So that's for sure
[22:19] <rahtgaz> vacations* (hated that typo)
[22:20]  * Bill_MI wonders if rahtgaz takes vacations in a van. :-)
[22:20] <ouroumov_> ^^
[22:20] <rahtgaz> I'll also be including a syntax template for vim
[22:20] <rahtgaz> an, lol? didn't get the joke
[22:20] <rahtgaz> van*
[22:20] <ouroumov_> 'van'cation
[22:20] <rahtgaz> oh lol
[22:21] <Bill_MI> Well.. a Van is a vehicle.  They make them into plush campers.
[22:21] <Bill_MI> I guess they still do. :-)
[22:21] <rahtgaz> It's a nice addition to my list of things to do when I retire
[22:22] <Bill_MI> I usually have to work on things around the house... we all that a staycation.
[22:23] <Bill_MI> all = call
[22:25] <ouroumov_> I'm in the process of recreating a memory leak bug on Fedora24
[22:25] <ouroumov_> (MATE-spin)
[22:25] <rahtgaz> I'm not big on camping to be honest. My dream retirement is buying a small farm and a pickup.  My chickens will die of old age
[22:27] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, in a few years lab-grown meat is gonna become mainstream anyway
[22:27] <rahtgaz> well, if it tastes as good as the real thing, I won't complain for sure
[22:28] <ouroumov_> My guess is 20 years from now killing animals for food will be considered deviant behavior
[22:28] <rahtgaz> I'll drink to that
[22:29] <ouroumov_> ^^
[22:29] <Bill_MI> Interesting idea.  I just hope open-source is around at the same time.
[22:29] <Bill_MI> I beg for the day the average person gasps at the thought of running software they can't examine.
[22:30] <ouroumov_> Actually that's not my idea, I extrapolated from scientific advances and a book by Peter F. Hamilton called "Fallen Dragon"
[22:31] <ouroumov_> I'm reading a decent amount of SF these days
[22:34] <Bill_MI> Great-Granddaughter doesn't think I'm talking to anyone because she can't hear anything. :-)
[22:35] <Bill_MI> She just started 1st grade and omg I can't believe her energy.
[22:35] <rahtgaz> kids that age. My wife runs a kindergarten in our house. little devilish angels all of 'em
[22:36] <Bill_MI> Oh yeah!
[22:36] <rahtgaz> ouroumov_: you want this. I can't overstate the importance of this collection to any SF reader : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SF_Masterworks
[22:37] <ouroumov_> rahtgaz, oh gawd
[22:38] <ouroumov_> Hamilton is not listed on the page, but Alastair Reynolds is :D
[22:38] <rahtgaz> many are out of print. You could get them off torrent sites. But you can also buy them on amazon fromm other publishers of course. However that's considered the best collection ever devised. I'v been a collector since 2002
[22:38] <ouroumov_> I only have three books from Alastair Reynolds left to read.
[22:39] <rahtgaz> any hard science fiction writer is an idol on my book. And alaistar is right there on the top
[22:39] <ouroumov_> ^^
[22:41] <Bill_MI> Been a pleasure folks.  I'm off to be a wizard.  Catchya on the boards!
[22:41] <rahtgaz> Penguin (i think Penguin) released a collection of his short fiction in one volvume.
[22:41] <ouroumov_> Bye Bill_MI
[22:41] <rahtgaz> take care Bill_MI : Return to us
[22:41] <ouroumov_> He'll read the logs :]
[22:41] <rahtgaz> :)
[23:08] <rahtgaz> going to bed. take care!
[23:15] <blackdrake> hi guys can I run a NAS box with ubuntu mate on raspberry pi
[23:17] <ouroumov_> blackdrake: Isn't storage space extremely limited on a rpi?
[23:17] <blackdrake> I have a external 1 tb usb drive
[23:19] <ouroumov_> Well, if you're asking regarding the CPU power & memory, I think the recent versions of rpi are enough.
[23:21] <blackdrake> ouroumov_: thanks
[23:21] <ouroumov_> blackdrake, that said
[23:22] <ouroumov_> Usually for a good NAS you want FreeNAS or such
[23:22] <ouroumov_> Not sure if that would run on a rpi tough
[23:24] <ouroumov_> I'm off to sleep, good luck
[23:25] <greendrake> ouroumov_: thanks mate
[23:41] <dav_> Hello!
[23:51] <FinalShroom81> Hello everyone, I am having a problem with chrome on ubuntu mate. Whenever I launch chrome it just shows a black and white screen of nothing. Something similar happens with unity3d on ubuntu-mate. it makes a black block appear in the middle of my screen. any solutions?


[03:39] <kylem> infinity, want me to bring anything from canada?
[03:41] <infinity> Girls that say "aboot"?
[03:41] <infinity> Maple syrup and toques?
[03:41] <johanbr> Some poutine, maybe?
[03:41] <infinity> I'm not sure.
[03:41] <infinity> Poutine doesn't travel well.
[03:41] <infinity> I only like it fresh.  That crazy canned poutine concept makes me ill.
[03:42] <kylem> hehe
[03:42] <johanbr> Maybe you could smuggle some vegemite into the US and sell it at jacked-up prices to Aussie expats.
[03:42] <infinity> It's been taken off the ban list already, apparently.
[03:42] <infinity> That was short-lived.
[07:47] <fabbione> BenC: ping?
[03:29] <BenC> fabbione: pong
[04:46] <fabbione> BenC: sorry i don't remember what i had to askl
[06:19] <highvoltage> I know this channel is for development discussion only, but I really can't think of a better place to ask. What kernel is the best to use on an LTSP server, -generic, or -server?
[06:19] <zul> server probably but you might want to check on the ltsp server
[06:19] <zul> er..channel
[06:21] <highvoltage> already did :)
[06:21] <highvoltage> I think I'll have to do some real life performance tests next week. I'll come back to provide some feedback.
[07:09] <tfheen> highvoltage: I'd say the -generic one; you probably want lower latency and such rather than maximum throughput
[07:11] <highvoltage> tfheen: that was the direction I was thinking in. although I wondered how the -generic one would perform under high loads as apposed to the server one. I also think -generic would work best, I'll include that on our default cd tentatively and do some real life tests next week.
[07:35] <neuralis> highvoltage: an ltsp server is a server in a pretty unconventional sense. you want generic, for the same reason that a desktop user wants generic.
[07:39] <highvoltage> neuralis: ok.
[07:39] <highvoltage> we used the server kernel before for ltsp servers, and it worked ok, but I will go with generic for the next updates.


[00:00] <Wild_Man> krytarik, translating the Portugal podcast?
[00:00] <krytarik> Yes.
[00:00] <Wild_Man> I don't know
[00:00] <Wild_Man> It was that way when I started helping
[00:00] <krytarik> We intentionally never did before, then someone started it.
[00:03] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I am the only guilty party I can think of :P
[00:04] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, is it my
[00:05] <Wild_Man> FF that is the issue with the numbers not being in the shaded area from 10 down?
[00:07] <krytarik> Yeah, definitely looks as usual on mine.
[00:08] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Loks good also in my browser .
[00:09] <Wild_Man> Okay strange I guess FF needs a kick in the pants again
[00:10] <krytarik> Wild_Man: Or you just zoomed the page in as hell? :P
[00:11] <krytarik> Can repro it this way here, that is.
[00:14] <Wild_Man> I am not going to worry about it
[00:14] <krytarik> Just hit Ctrl + 0 (zero) to reset the zoom level.
[00:15] <Wild_Man> I did but still outside the lines on the left side
[00:18] <Wild_Man> of the shaded area that is
[02:56] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue561 - see what you think ,, proof reading too :P
[02:57] <mIk3_08> Copy Billy ( Bashing-om ) and thanks a lot
[02:57] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: :) .. All in this together :P One gets wet .... we all get wet .
[02:58] <mIk3_08> Bashing-om :-D
[03:01] <mIk3_08> Bashing-om : We did some changes coz Chris wont like my previous work. that's why I change some of the summary and Chris help me with it.  so, Thanks a lot to Chris. Thanks a lot also Bashing-om.
[03:02] <mIk3_08> Have a great day. Bashing-om
[03:04] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: It comes out in the end .. I did make a couple minor edits too when I copied to the WIKI.
[03:06] <mIk3_08> Bashing-om: Wow! Thanks a lot. I noticed it that there are some changes on the summary. I knew it now. that you who change it. Thanks by the way.
[03:06] <Wild_Man> I only changed the name of the thread from the forum, I was being pulled in to many directions at the time
[03:09] <mIk3_08> Wild_Man: and oh! Thanks also Wild_Man for removing all the companies in the summary. Is it not important to include the company on the news?
[03:10] <Wild_Man> mIk3_08, no, at some point we stopped doing that but it did not get changed in the wiki, until I changed it last night, so you only did what the wiki said to do
[03:11] <mIk3_08> Copy Wild_Man.
[03:16] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: Do you see anthing on the WIKI that we could do better ? See any mistakes ?
[03:18] <mIk3_08> Bashing-om: none so far. But I re-scan it now. I'm going to message you when I see one.
[03:19] <Wild_Man> mIk3_08, just post it here so we can all have a look
[03:20] <mIk3_08> Copy Wild_Man.
[03:32] <mIk3_08> Guys;  Be back later. I'm going to post it here when I see any that is to be change. I will review it later. I have some important things to fix. Thanks guys.
[03:33] <Wild_Man> later mIk3_08
[03:34] <Bashing-om> mIk3_08: \o
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[15:47] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Linus Torvalds Says Things Look Pretty Normal for Linux 5.0, Releases Second RC @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/linus-torvalds-says-things-look-pretty-normal-for-linux-5-0-releases-second-rc-524541.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
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[17:06] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Canonical Patches GNOME Bluetooth Vulnerability on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, Update Now @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-patches-gnome-bluetooth-vulnerability-on-ubuntu-18-04-lts-update-now-524542.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[17:36] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Ubuntu’s Icon Theme Now Extends to Branded & Third-Party Apps @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=137695 (by Joey Sneddon)
[18:25] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: We all happy with UWN561 ? If so, I pull "WIP" in about an hour or so .
[18:26] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, let me look one more time but I think so
[18:27] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: K - looking again is a good thing .
[18:35] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, good to go, I have to run some errands bbl
[18:36] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: :) .. good to know .. target time 21:00 GMT .
[19:14] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Jono Bacon: Remote Working Survival Guide @ https://www.jonobacon.com/2019/01/14/remote-working-survival/
[19:25] <Bashing-om> "WIP" pulled .. target time remains 21:00 GMT .
[20:26] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Solus 4 and Budgie 10.5 Desktop Will Finally Be Released in Spring 2019 @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/solus-4-and-budgie-10-5-desktop-will-finally-be-released-in-spring-2019-524544.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[21:03] <Bashing-om> M/L is away .. doing the forum next :)
[21:07] <Bashing-om> And Forum post done .. doing re-directs next .
[21:21] <Bashing-om> aAnndddd .. re-directs are done. Pending is posting to the social medias :)
[22:16] <Wild_Man> Doing social media now
[22:17] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: ::)) Awaiting slidinghorn too for reddit .
[22:20] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Debian-Based Netrunner 19.01 "Blackbird" Officially Released with New Dark Look @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/debian-based-netrunner-19-01-blackbird-officially-released-with-new-dark-look-524545.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[22:28] <Wild_Man> Done with social media
[22:33] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: \o/ .
[22:42] <guiverc> Wild_Man, are you waiting for 2nd [review] for UWN on fridge?  (I wasn't in room so missed it and logs are behind)
[22:43] <Wild_Man> guiverc, no I pm'd you, I am hoping you will do it today
[22:43] <Wild_Man> Do you see my message?
[22:45] <guiverc> okay, no i didn't see the pm (I do now, will look).  are you happy with UWN for fridge publish? (ie. you be 2nd/reviewer)
[22:46] <Wild_Man> Yes
[22:53] <guiverc> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/01/14/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-561/
[22:58] <Wild_Man> Thanks guiverc
[22:58] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I got surgery tomorrow .. could be that you will have a load to carry this week :(
[23:02] <guiverc> hope all goes well for you Bashing-om.  You take it easy, do only what you can (don't push yourself) & get well/recover.  Hope it goes well
[23:06] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Doc's say I will have 3 days on the couch :(
[23:07] <guiverc> as long as you have a remote (and something good to watch  -- but yeah if you're the active type - it will be torture..)
[23:09] <Bashing-om> OH .. I can do ! .. I spent 10 days recently exercising that couch .. maybe by now there are new movies on the cable :) If I am able to sit will be back here soonest :)
[23:14] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 561 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/01/14/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-561/
[23:32] <Bashing-om> krytarik: poke
[23:33] <krytarik> Helloo!
[23:33] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I got surgery tomorrow - could be I will be out again for a spell :(
[23:35] <krytarik> Alright, then I hope the new/renewed forces will make up for this - either way, health always comes first, don't worry! :)
[23:37] <Bashing-om> krytarik: :) .. Hope that it is not as bad as they say might be for recovery. We will see what we will see .


[13:43] <yasser> am trying to dual boot win 7 and lubuntu but when i want to create partions for lubuntu it says max partions reached??
[13:46] <arraybolt3[m]> yasser: Do you already have 4 partitions on the disk?
[13:48] <yasser> arraybolt3[m]yes
[13:48] <yasser> tried to delete one but it didt fix it
[13:49] <arraybolt3[m]> yasser: That's your problem most likely. If you deleted a partition, try rebooting the system and trying the install again.
[13:49] <arraybolt3[m]> yasser: Please make sure to back up your important data before installing, though.
[13:49] <yasser> the partion is completley empty
[13:50] <yasser> and i rebooted ito lubuntu but nothing happend


 Hi. Kubuntu 19.10 KDE Plasma 5.16.5. KDE framework 5.62.0 on HP laptop pavolion. No wifi. Any suggestions please.
[01:39] <lsd|2> great info
[01:40] <lsd|2> where no wifi after SDDM or terminal mode?
 @Guest83801, That usb c cable is connected to any external monitor/tv ?? Because it is disabling your laptop display and transferring the singal to the C cable for external monitor..... … I'm surprised no body replyed yet ... Is this group dead ??
 @Alexblabber, WiFi will work in 20.04
[05:18] <tsitOs_> god day!
[05:19] <tsitOs_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAeA_bdvp0
[05:25] <tsitOs_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAeA_bdvp0
 Confirm :20.04 wifi is OK. Thanks.
 @Alexblabber, Same here
 Which laptop model ?
 @carolinaaeh, You can use Synaptic to install programs. If you search for Calligra, then right mouse click for properties, it will list dependencies. I am not sure if an appimage is available or not.
 @miltonh26, thanks but already created an appimage us appimage-builder easier to use
 @carolinaaeh, Welcome
[10:49] <Guest2004> Hello! I've got a question regarding the combination of my Thinkpad L380 and Kubuntu 20.04 beta installation and would greatly appreciate help solving it. After I installed Kubuntu, previously using Win10, my system began not executing the boot process anymore with the usb-c power cable connected. No matter if I perform a restart coming from Kubuntu or if the pc was shut down entirely, then started, when I press the start button the machine
[10:49] <Guest2004> reacts, flashes its lights and the fan starts spinning, but nothing will happen from there onwards. Only when I unplug the usb-c power cable the machine starts executing the boot process as normally does. I already tried changing BIOS settings, but with no luck. Any idea what the cause might be?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:46] <Atlenohen> Hello
[11:46] <Atlenohen> seems like kubuntu still has ntp, not the new thing
[11:47] <Atlenohen> or what
[11:47] <Atlenohen> it says NTP service: inactive
[11:47] <Atlenohen> but on the ubuntu manpage is like:  systemd-timesyncd.service active: yes
[11:50] <Atlenohen> ah I had it disabled in GUI, forgot about it
[11:51] <Atlenohen> so the NTP moniker is going to be kept ?
[11:51] <Atlenohen> so confusing
[12:02] <Atlenohen> why do all the stupid ftp tutorials don't explain how to add devices and paths
[12:08] <Atlenohen> what kind of a joke pure-ftpd is, where are the options at all, the conf file is so barebone
[12:08] <Atlenohen> it doesn't work, keeps asking for pass
[12:15] <Atlenohen> bah the anon login doesn't accept any password, what is this nonsense
[12:32] <jamina> can someone help me confirm a bug in kubuntu 20.04 beta?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> jamina, confirm in #ubuntu+1
[12:37] <jamina> @BluesKaj will do, thanks
[12:39] <freb> bonjour
[12:52] <MertEtcioglu> hello everybody i have a really annoying problem please help me i can not activate my wifi connection
[12:59] <mocalvao> Hi there
[13:00] <mocalvao> Is the release of kubuntu 20.04 imminent?
[13:00] <oerheks> thursday ..
[13:00] <BluesKaj> MertEtcioglu, which wifi chip? and does driver manager in system settings show the wifi driver?
[13:01] <mocalvao> I have recently installed 18.04 in several machines after quite some time within Debian sid (in fact, siduction). I guess I should wait for some time before upgrading to 20.04, right? That is, if I do not want some surprises...
[13:02] <BluesKaj> !crossposting | MertEtcioglu
[13:02] <MertEtcioglu> ubottu: ok i'm sorry
[13:04] <mocalvao> Thanks for the wonderful work, all you guys, both developing and helping!!
[13:04] <MertEtcioglu> is there anybody help me please i can not handle with this issue
[13:11] <oerheks> a good start; https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Basic/en#Wireless  --  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[13:22] <MertEtcioglu> i cannot connect wifi please help me
[13:30] <BluesKaj> MertEtcioglu, you need to answer some questions and do some things, don't just keep asking for help...read above what's been suggest to you first
[13:30] <BluesKaj> suggested
[13:32] <BluesKaj> MertEtcioglu, <oerheks> a good start; https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Basic/en#Wireless  --  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[14:10] <user|30278> Does 20.04 Kubuntu release tomorrow?
[14:14] <oerheks> user|30278, that is the plan
[14:14] <oerheks> join #ubuntu-release-party :-)
[14:16] <user|30278> Ah nice, I'm looking forward to it.
[14:20] <user|30278> Honestly hope that popping issue while playing or pausing videos in headphones has been fixed
[14:20] <user|30278> Not sure why but I don't have that problem in Linux Mint or Arch
[14:20] <user|30278> I'm still digging though
[14:21] <user|30278> I'll be the first to download the isos yay
[14:32] <digitalw00t> So.. how painful will the upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04 be?
[14:32] <digitalw00t> Just started using linux as my daily os the past 2 weeks.
[14:34] <mparillo> Probably painless, but you do have good backups of your data, right?
[14:34] <digitalw00t> Yes I do.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> why do you think upgrading to a new release is painful, just update and upgrade your packages first and then run sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:36] <digitalw00t> BluesKaj:I don't know it's painful, never done it.  Which is why I was asking.
[14:36] <digitalw00t> Switched from Windows to Linux.  Have almost everything working or replaced.
[14:37] <digitalw00t> Only two outstanding issues.  Video capture from my elgato HD60 and MS Visio
[14:37] <BluesKaj> digitalw00t, as mparillo pointed out good backups are the secret to painlessness :-)
[14:37] <digitalw00t> So far.. almost everything else is good.  Few games I can't play on linux natively.  Like Destiny 2 etc..
[14:37] <digitalw00t> But other than that..  I get message that google blocks this app
[15:11] <mparillo> It seems to come and go.
 gdrive:// is currently broken in 20.04.  But is working in Neon with newer packages.  So, hopefully backports will re-enable gdrive fairly soon.
 @DarinMiller, What newer packages?
 Not sure which packages, but gdrive was working on Neon Dev Unstable as of a few weeks ago.
 oh, unstable
 sry, yes. I should have been more specific.
 It worked for me in 20.04 a couple of weeks ago, but I think is not reliable when setting it up. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it fails to set up. Which is why it is not on the ISO at the moment.
 Plus the kaccounts KCM rework which will help is only out in apps 20.04 tommorow
 and kio-gdrive 1.3 was too late for focal
 I have also seen the erratic behavior.  I just booted in to Neon Dev Unstable to test and its now failing there.. . running updates now.
 The whole thing is not reliable enough for ages. It is nice, but too fragile
 Yes, fully understood that the 20.04 apps release was bad timing for focal.
 @RikMills, My experience is the same.
 @DarinMiller https://www-staging.kde.org/announcements/releases/2020-04-apps-update/?letmein=1
 Building backports of elisa, kdenlive, yakuake, spectacle, and okular now
 yay, smooth scrolling in Ocular!
 Not got time to do the whole stack right now, but good to have some of the nicer things straight away!
 breaking news (pun intended).... gdrive is now broken in Neon Dev Unstable
[16:49] <magic_ninja> Man, is there no way in discover to disable or freeze updates on flatpak or snap without removing the entire backend?
[16:49] <magic_ninja> It would be nice to be able to search packages but not download 2GB of updates every other day.
[19:57] <viewer|48> This is a test.
[19:57] <viewer|48> Giving kubuntu a try. Wish me luck! :-)
 gl!
[20:46] <magic_ninja> kubuntu is so very good.
 a most excellent adventure...
 Precisely some time tomorrow
 Seriously, it is up to the main Ubuntu release team. There is no set time.
[21:21] <ordinarydude1> make a backup
[21:29] <magic_ninja> Mihai Stan: you can also just install the beta and install the updates tomorrow as they release.
[21:48] <mocalvao> hi there
[21:52] <magic_ninja> Mihai Stan: I mean, you are already on 20.04 on the beta, which they are going to release in like a day. So, it would essentially be a normal update. For instance, I ran the 19.10 eoan beta, and at release I was just converted over to normal eoan. Then, when 20.04 comes out I can do a dist-upgrade and upgrade releases.
[21:53] <magic_ninja> I'm pretty sure that my sources.list came with eaon as my release as well.
[21:55] <mocalvao> Recently I had to change my physical keyboard (on a running desktop with Kubuntu 18.04), from a usual vanilla American US "pc105" model, with "us" layout and "intl" variant (as per /etc/default/keyboard file). Now, as tested under a terminal, if I run the command: setxkbmap -model abnt2 -layout br -variant abnt2 , everything seems to work fine (including accents and the cedilla key). What should I do to make these modifications stick
[21:55] <mocalvao> permanently system-wide? I tried dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, but the abnt2 model did not show up at all? May I just try to edit the /etc/default/keyboard file directly?
[23:06] <user|4674> what are the minimum requirements for the latest version of kubuntu
[23:09] <oerheks> min wait 2 minutes..


[02:05] <imgbot> [03:30] <imgbot> [03:30] <imgbot> [09:01] <marcustomlinson> Is there anyone around that could please hit build on vivid silo 11 for me? Pretty please...
[09:06] <robru> marcustomlinson: it's your lucky day ;-)
[09:07] <marcustomlinson> robru: yay!
[09:07] <marcustomlinson> thanks!
[09:07] <robru> marcustomlinson: you're welcome! https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-1-build/139/console
[09:09] <robru> marcustomlinson: don't you have permission to do builds? I can add you...
[09:09] <marcustomlinson> robru: no I don't :/ Please, that'd be great!
[09:10] <marcustomlinson> robru: very luck day indeed :)
[09:11] <robru> marcustomlinson: k, added you to the lp team that gives that permission, and also gave you write access to the spreadsheet. it's mostly pretty straightforward but when in doubt please ping 'trainguards' before making a mistake ;-)
[09:11] <marcustomlinson> robru: awesome, many thanks
[09:11] <robru> marcustomlinson: you're welcome!
[09:12] <Mirv> yes, like now robru successfully raised my attention by using the magic word :)
[09:13] <robru> heheh
[09:13] <marcustomlinson> :)


[05:20] <cmaloney> Evening
[05:21] <Scary_Guy> Hey, you're up late
[05:23] <cmaloney> Heading to bed
[05:23] <cmaloney> but wanted to at least day howdy before doing so
[05:23] <cmaloney> and, with the task completed, now I depart.
[05:23] <cmaloney> g'night
[15:28] <cmaloney> Morning and all that jazz
[15:33] <Scary_Guy> Yo
[15:43] <jrwren> sup?
[15:43] <cmaloney> Not much.


[08:25] <AlanBell> in summit how would I set a cookie to give to the browser?
[10:42] <cjohnston> mhall119: ^^
[11:30] <mhall119> AlanBell: HttpResponse.set_cookie(key, value='', max_age=None, expires=None, path='/', domain=None, secure=None, httponly=True)
[11:31] <AlanBell> oh great, so I can set that in the model code?
[12:28] <cjohnston> Amoz: I figured out the footer thing
[12:35] <mhall119> AlanBell: no, you'llhave to do it in the view
[12:35] <mhall119> HttpResponse is what your view code returns
[12:35] <mhall119> so just call set_cookie on the return value before you return it
[12:41] <AlanBell> ok, so in _show_meeting in views.py
[12:42] <AlanBell> I was a bit confused by the templates
[12:53] <mhall119> AlanBell: how so?
[12:53] <AlanBell> I was trying to figure out how to set a cooke in the meeting.html
[12:54] <AlanBell> and it wasn't tying up with the documentation about django I was reading
[12:58] <mhall119> AlanBell: you don't set cookies in the template
[12:58] <mhall119> you set them in the view code
[12:59] <mhall119> render_to_response return an instance of HttpResponse
[12:59] <mhall119> you'll need to put that in a variable, then call set_cookie on the variable, then return it
[12:59] <mhall119> AlanBell: what are you setting a cookie for anyway?
[13:00] <cjohnston> mhall119: I assume logging into etherpad
[13:01] <mhall119> hey, are we going to switch to EP lite for UDS-Q?
[13:01] <AlanBell> etherpad lite
[13:01] <mhall119> yeah
[13:02] <AlanBell> the summit server can talk to the pad server and create a pad, and create an author and create a session to link an author to a pad (or a group stricktly speaking I think)
[13:02] <AlanBell> that creates a session and you have to give the session ID to the browser in a cookie
[13:02] <AlanBell> so you will log into summit and it will know who you are
[13:02] <AlanBell> if you don't log in you get a live read-only pad, but you can use the comments
[13:03] <AlanBell> if it is a private session it will probably create a group specificially for that session
[13:03] <AlanBell> the pad server and summit server need to have the same domain *.ubuntu.com for the cookie to be shared I think
[21:33] <cjohnston> Amoz: ping


[06:15] <dholbach> good morning
[19:01] <ddsss> how does one creates source package without automake or cmake?
[19:53] <dogeydogey> I'm trying to solve this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/914028 but I can't find the text anywhere even though I've grepped for it -- can someone help me out?
[20:21] <ddsss> so I have deb-src package - how exactly do I build get .deb binary package from it? or what do I do with it?
[20:25] <jtaylor> run debuild -us -uc in the extracted source
[20:34] <ddsss> jtaylor, gotcha. thanks
[20:44] <dogeydogey> jtaylor I'm trying to solve this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/914028 but I can't find the text anywhere even though I've grepped for it -- can someone help me out?