[17:56] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: ping?
[17:58] <tsimonq2> Bad empty pings are bad
[17:58] <tsimonq2> :)
[17:58] <Eickmeyer> Haha!
[17:58] <tsimonq2> In any case I'm not around for long.
[17:59] <Eickmeyer> When you get back, would you mind looking at a new package I have? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio/+git/grub2-themes-ubuntustudio
[18:03] <tsimonq2> That won't work for EFI installs, will it?
[18:03] <tsimonq2> (I will
[18:03] <Eickmeyer> It will and does.
[18:03] <tsimonq2> )
[18:03] <tsimonq2> OH
[18:03] <tsimonq2> huh
[18:03] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[18:03] <Eickmeyer> I use it on my EFI computer.
[18:04] <Eickmeyer> Forked from the Ubuntu MATE theme.
[18:04] <tsimonq2> Nice
[18:04] <tsimonq2> (Pics or it didn't happen. ;) )
[18:05] <Eickmeyer> I'll have to do a Telegram message if you REALLY want those pics. :)
[18:05] <Eickmeyer> Right now, though, I'm downloading (for the first time this season) our daily build. I have nothing to rsync with, so I've got about 25 minutes left.
[18:06] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[18:11] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: We have a bunch of packages needing to be updated for Disco as well, I'll get you that list when you get back if you ping me.


[05:00] <sm> yikes.. something broke with my multipass  on mac, maybe since upgrading to 1.9.1. Connections to an existing instance would break after a minute or so. Stopped the instance, now starting it hangs/times out.
[05:01] <sm> any ideas ?
[05:02] <sm> also start -v, list -v don't show any extra detail
[05:05] <sm> and, how can you inspect the image, size etc. of a stopped image ?
[05:05] <sm> stopped instance
[05:30] <sm> https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/2604
[05:45] <Saviq> Hi sm, you're likely victim of https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/2387#issuecomment-1141108886
[05:47] <Saviq> sm: the problem is the macOS firewall - turning it off (or toggling off/on), toggling Internet Sharing, reboots, all those have (randomly) helped users… sorry we've not more info, but macOS isn't helpful at all in this
[05:54] <sm> thanks Saviq ! I'll pursue that
[07:26] <sm> a lot to read here, am I right in thinking that `pgrep -fil bootp` showing nothing is a problem ?
[07:34] <Saviq> sm: Not really, no, since it's started on demand
[08:08] <sm> rats
[08:41] <sm> Saviq: do you know of any command that can quickly indicate whether the problem is active ? I guess not ?
[08:42] <sm> currently I am running `multipass start` from the stopped state and looking for any change in the log. But not sure if I'm waiting long enough for a valid test.
[08:43] <sm> no joy from upgrading to monterey 12.4, toggling internet sharing, or turning off firewall :/
[08:50] <Saviq> sm: if we did know…
[08:51] <Saviq> There's the `tcpdump` command that at least can confirm that's the problem
[09:29] <sm> thanks, out of power for mac now but will try that next
[15:33] <sm> This tcpdump output during `mp start` indicates the problem is happening I think ?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/521eb6a96b8f3070bb99bf41ce5000ce203a2af9)
[15:35] <sm> hmm, this does not match https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/2583#issuecomment-1134802909 though
[15:37] <sm> hmm, after `multipass stop` I can no longer run this tcpdump command until after running `multipass start`, since bridge100 doesn't exist


[04:50] <nixternal> hrmm..everyone seen the holiday card that jane silber posted on the fridge-devel list?
[04:51] <nixternal> i can write it up if needed, but i don't feel right doing so. they left out xubuntu, which for some reason i swore was part of the community
[04:54] <nixternal> Burgundavia: whats up with the UWN 25 in the queue? does it need to be published?
[06:05] <Burgundavia> nixternal: yes
[06:05] <nixternal> roger
[06:06] <nixternal> submitted. changed 24 to 25 in the top sentence. good job!
[06:34] <ubotu> New on thefridge: Weekly News #25 <http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/692>


[09:40] <matv2> mhm is this a regression? bringing up a private browser instance from the regular browser, gives no osk. Not even on touching the addres bar. You cant input adresses.
[09:41] <matv2> this is on both my devices
[09:41] <matv2> but both are on rc_proposed.
[09:41] <matv2> could some one verify if this also snuk into ota14 ?
[09:43] <matv2> weird thing is: when you swipe out the app spread, and then go back to that private browser instance, one does magically get an osk
[09:44] <matv2> This suggests that this may not be a browser issue
[09:44] <matv2> anyoneone can tell me what I should file this against?
[09:47] <matv2> popey do you perhaps know who the go-to man is for this?
[09:48] <matv2> or woman :)
[09:59] <popey> matv2: either oSoMoN or Elleo perhaps.
[10:00] <popey> or maybe even ahayzen :)
[10:00] <matv2> ok thanks
[10:01] <matv2> oSoMoN ^^ would that be a browser issue you think?
[10:34] <GeertB> Hello!
[10:39] <matv2> GeertB \o/
[10:39] <GeertB> I have a question about flashing
[10:40] <matv2> GeertB just ask :)
[10:40] <GeertB> I got a TWRP backup for the OnePlus One. I got the v15 working, but when I download v16 in the phone it needs to restart and install
[10:40] <GeertB> And after restart it opens TWRP
[10:40] <GeertB> And doesnt flah
[10:40] <GeertB> Is there a ubuntu touch recovery needed?
[10:42] <GeertB> Or where does is save the v16 so I can flash it manually
[10:42] <ahayzen> popey, matv2, it sounds the same as comment #12 in https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1506753 ... which was then asked to open a bug in webbrowser-app but i'm not sure i that happened
[10:43] <matv2> GeertB I have no idea about that sorry. is there no info on ubports on that? or maybe their irc channel or the telegram one
[10:43] <GeertB> I only found this link, what is their irc channel?
[10:43] <ahayzen> and when we had a look at it, it sounded pretty similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmir/+bug/1623861 so we wondered if qtubuntu regressed
[10:44] <ahayzen> Elleo, oSoMoN, did we get any further with that ^^ input bug ?
[10:44] <matv2> GeertB i think it is just #ubports
[10:48] <matv2> ahayzen right it is pretty much https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1506753/comments/12
[10:49] <matv2> but that comment indeed describes a separate issue
[10:49] <matv2> the only difference is that he works around it differently
[10:50] <matv2> And the difference is that the bug is now consistant
[10:51] <ahayzen> matv2, just of interest what device are you using ?
[10:52] <matv2> ahayzen I use both the M10 and N4
[10:52] <ahayzen> ok thanks
[10:52] <matv2> both on rc_proposed
[10:52] <matv2> so do you think i should just plus 1 on one of those existing bugs?
[10:53] <ahayzen> well that bug in incomplete and they were told to open a new one...
[10:53] <ahayzen> i'm just trying to see if i can see one against the webbrowser
[10:53] <matv2> ah ok
[10:53] <ahayzen> if there isn't then probably open one against webbrowser-app as suggested in comment #14
[10:55] <matv2> ok shall i wait for you to check then
[10:56] <ahayzen> matv2, i can't seem to find one, i'd open a new bug against webbrowser-app and then comment on the other bug with a link to it, so people know it is linked.
[10:57] <matv2> ahayzen Right will do that. Thanks for looking
[10:58] <matv2> ahayzen just out of interest though: were you not able to reproduce this?
[10:59] <ahayzen> matv2, i need to update my rc-proposed device to check, but IIRC others we able to reproduce easily
[10:59] <matv2> Wouldnt it have snuk into stable though? with ota 14
[11:00] <ahayzen> i'm not sure, i'm trying to reproduce on my stable device at the moment
[11:02] <matv2> cool cause that would be usefull info for the new bug
[11:37] <Elleo> ahayzen: ah, yeah, I think we decided it was probably Mir focus related, I'll ping some Mir folks again today
[11:37] <ahayzen> Elleo, thanks :-)
[13:10] <matv2> Elleo your previous remark was still concerning the vanishing osk right? Maybe I better hold off on a new bug until we know what to file against?
[13:11] <Elleo> matv2: yep, dednick's going to take a look into it from the Mir side later today :)
[13:14] <matv2> awsum. If he needs any logs or testing or whatever he can ping me up.
[13:14] <matv2> though that bug is pretty consistant know. not flaky or anything
[13:44] <romain44> join #ubuntu-touch
[13:44] <romain44> Hi! I wish I could get some information about a port on an Archos device
[13:45] <romain44> I am not working for the company and I wanted to know if I could achieve without their support...
[13:46] <romain44> Before I loose my time trying it
[13:48] <romain44> Hum. Is there anyone here?
[14:02] <romain44> It is the first time I am using freenode. Am i currently in the chat #ubuntu-touch ?
[14:12] <k1l_> romain44: yes, you are
[14:17] <pareidolia> Welcome!
[14:17] <romain44> Thank you. :D
[14:17]  * romain44 waves all
[14:17] <romain44> (learning irc also)
[14:18] <romain44> Unfortunately I must leave to the christmas party of my daughter. But I know it exists and will come back soon
[14:18]  * romain44 waves all (saying good bye)
[16:16] <rakete> does anyone else have the problem that the terminal just seems to freeze when starting it on bq aquaris m4.5?
[16:19] <rakete> before the latest ota update the terminal appeared too large, and also freezed, now after the upgrade it appears correctly sized, but still freezes
[16:20] <rakete> freeze means I can start it, it appears, but then I can use any of the buttons and no keyboard appears
[16:20] <rakete> all I can do is close it again
[16:21] <pmcgowan> rakete, does it prompt for your passcode?
[16:22] <rakete> pmcgowan: nope, nothing
[16:23] <dobey> rakete: "m" 4.5?
[16:23] <rakete> whats it called? the small bq aquaris
[16:23] <rakete> the first ubuntu phone that was released
[16:23] <pmcgowan> yep e4.5
[16:23] <pmcgowan> let me try here
[16:23] <rakete> ah ok
[16:24] <dobey> yeah e4.5
[16:24] <pmcgowan> rakete, you may want to remove its qml cache, thats often an issue
[16:24] <dobey> they have some mX.X phones too, which aren't supported by ubuntu
[16:24] <rakete> how? i can ssh into the device
[16:24] <pmcgowan> hmm
[16:25] <pmcgowan> you can turn on developer mode and use the tools like phablet-shell or adb shell
[16:25] <pmcgowan> if you have those
[16:25] <rakete> mmh
[16:25] <rakete> well, I meant, I can already ssh into the device
[16:26] <rakete> but I am quite sure I have never enabled developer mode
[16:26] <rakete> I have set up so I can ssh into it when I got it
[16:26] <pmcgowan> rakete, oh ok, then yes, look in .cache/QML
[16:26] <pmcgowan> and remove the one for terminal
[16:29] <rakete> that did not fix the problem
[16:29] <rakete> but, I remember I DID mess with it actually...
[16:29] <rakete> http://askubuntu.com/questions/556041/why-ubuntu-touch-terminal-cannot-execute-app/621538#621538
[16:29] <rakete> I did that
[16:29] <rakete> so, I am going to see if that is the problem
[16:30] <pmcgowan> rakete, check the syslog for any apparmor issue as well
[16:32] <plars> sil2100: Hey, I'm planning to reboot heymann for some updates in about 2 hours. Any concern about jobs getting interfered with or anything?
[16:32] <plars> sil2100: this is the one connected to most of the phones
[16:37] <rakete> pmcgowan: nothing related to apparmor shows up in /var/log/syslog if I start the terminal
[16:38] <rakete> and /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/click_com.ubuntu.terminal_terminal_0.7.198 looks like it is the default
[16:39] <rakete> it actually contains the /** pix, line that I described on askubuntu, so that you can execute all commands from the terminal
[16:39] <pmcgowan> rakete, last idea is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1576989
[16:39] <rakete> I removed it to test, then the terminal won't open at all and I do get an apparmor error in syslog
[16:41] <rakete> pmcgowan: yep, that was it!
[16:41] <rakete> thanks for the help
[16:41] <pmcgowan> oh cool
[16:41] <pmcgowan> bad bug
[16:41] <rakete> thats also useful to know when it happens for other qt apps
[17:34] <ouroumov_> Guys I don't know what was done in OTA-14 but congrats to the dev team: My Aquaris E5 now has lower RAM usage and no longer SWAPs.
[17:34] <ouroumov_> Thanks a lot ^^
[19:14] <horuxan> hi all
[19:14] <horuxan> help me please
[19:14] <horuxan> to port ubuntu touch for moto g titan
[19:14] <horuxan> xt1079 ?
[22:01] <jamesc> I have a laptop that converts into a touch tablet. I am a developer how can I help the touch aspect of ubuntu
[22:06] <pmcgowan> jamesc, there are two related efforts underway - one to provide Unity8 session on the desktop, using a snap package
[22:07] <pmcgowan> and another to create an all snaps desktop image, using unity8 and all the convergent touch apps
[22:12] <jamesc> How do I know which one to start. Is the first project add existing functionality to the desktop and the second like a whole mode change?
[22:20] <jamesc> pmcgowan: do I need the phablet-tools or is that for android?
[22:21] <dobey> phablet-tools is some some cli tools for ubuntu phones, but some can be used with android too
[22:22] <pmcgowan> jamesc, the work I am talking about is on amd64 PC targeting convertible laptops
[22:22] <dobey> jamesc: what is it that you want to accomplish exactly? i presume you have something in mind that you want to work on
[22:23] <dobey> "ubuntu touch" has always been a misnomer
[22:23] <jamesc> yes this is what I have. I have an lenovo yoga 700
[22:24] <jamesc> I think scrolling down a webpage instead of selecting the text would be a small start. Or maybe I need to start smaller depending on how difficult this could be
[22:24] <dobey> are you talking about firefox under unity7 or something?
[22:25] <jamesc> firefox yes. I'm using ubuntu 16.04 lts is that Unity7 or 8 ?
[22:26] <dobey> the "touch" gesture stuff under unity 7 and x11 isn't really what this channel is for (i know, the name is a bit confusing)
[22:26] <jamesc> sure which channel do you suggest
[22:26] <dobey> #ubuntu-desktop perhaps, though i don't know if anyone is really working on those bits
[22:27] <jamesc> I even need to probably disable the keyboard first when its in tent mode. ok thanks
[22:27] <dobey> this channel is about ubuntu on phones and such, with unity8/mir


[07:35] <ebarretto> grimmware, as mentioned before cvescan is deprecated, the data has many issues. Our advice is to use oval instead.
[08:06] <ebarretto> rouca, thanks, I've just updated both CVEs