[00:00] <humphreybc> nitgh
[00:01] <godbyk> G'night, dutchie.
[00:55] <humphreybc> godbyk: there's a couple of make errors in the latest revision
[00:55] <godbyk> yep
[00:55] <godbyk> I've fixed them but haven't pushed yet.
[00:55] <humphreybc> swell
[00:55] <godbyk> apparently no one compiles before they commit.
[00:55] <godbyk> I'll push the fixes for you.. just a sec.
[00:55] <humphreybc> nice
[00:56] <godbyk> humphreybc: pushed.
[00:57] <godbyk> let me know if there are still problems.
[00:57] <godbyk> someone had renamed the 'around the desktop' chapter file, so that was missing.  I renamed it back.
[00:57] <godbyk> also, someone used \option to specify the name of an option in a dialog box and there was no command for that, so I wrote one real quick.
[00:58] <humphreybc> ahh ha
[00:58] <humphreybc> gotcha
[07:20] <thorwil> vish, godbyk: i got a mail from humphreybc asking me for a title page proposal
[07:20] <thorwil> vish: i thought you took care of that and it was already in place?
[07:20] <godbyk> thorwil: Yeah, he just told me that I should expect a title page from you soon.
[07:21] <thorwil> godbyk: that was wishful thinking, then
[07:22] <godbyk> lol.  I figured it was the result of some discussion between him and you.
[07:22] <godbyk> Perhaps he hadn't seen the updated alpha title page yet.
[07:23] <thorwil> no discussion happened
[07:25] <thorwil> godbyk: what's the state of the internal layout and could you make a list of fonts in consideration?
[07:26] <godbyk> I wanted to wait until after the alpha 'release' to really start hacking on the internal layout.  (I didn't want to accidentally break anything so close to the deadline.)
[07:27] <godbyk> Font-wise, I'm currently trying to track down suitable fonts for the non-Latin scripts: Telugu, Arabic, Japanese, Greek, Russian, Chinese, etc.
[07:27] <godbyk> Finding a typeface for the Latin (and extended Latin) scripts will be a lot easier.
[07:28] <godbyk> So most of my time lately has been spent trying to get the translation stuff to work smoothly.
[07:28] <godbyk> (Well, from the formatting end of things, at least.  I'll leave the po4a stuff up to dutchie.)
[07:30] <thorwil> guess we should just check what free fonts with an extended latin set are available
[07:31] <thorwil> as i consider to initiate a type-only title page design stage
[07:33] <godbyk> thorwil: Yeah, it'd be good if we can make sure the title page and interior design are not at odds with each other.
[07:45] <thorwil> make fails: http://pastebin.com/d3d9a948b
[07:46] <thorwil> really nasty it doesn't honor ctrl-c
[07:51] <godbyk> thorwil: I'm looking into it.
[07:51] <godbyk> Seems people don't run make before committing.
[07:57] <godbyk> thorwil: I just pushed a fix.  Try it now.
[07:57] <godbyk> A few typos in the around-the-desktop chapter.
[07:58] <thorwil> godbyk: works, ty
[07:58] <godbyk> np
[08:21] <vish> thorwil: heya.. its already there..
[08:27] <thorwil> yeah, mailed Ben with both of you in CC
[08:28]  * vish just read and replied
[08:35] <vish> thorwil: i think he wants different fonts
[08:36] <thorwil> *shrug*
[08:36] <godbyk> What's up?
[08:36] <vish> meh , with no communication what can we keep guessing :/
[08:36] <vish> godbyk: not sure what benjamin wants :s
[08:37] <godbyk> ah, I'm not sure either.
[08:37] <thorwil> vish: we'll see whence he replies
[08:37]  * vish wonders if there is no web connectivity at all in the whole of nz apart from his home connection o.0
[08:38] <thorwil> if/once, actually
[08:38] <godbyk> He just said earlier: humphreybc> godbyk - thorwil should contact you at some point today or tomorrow with a new title page
[08:38] <godbyk> didn't give any details.
[08:38] <godbyk> heh.. he was on a bit earlier, so I think he's back online now.
[08:39] <vish> godbyk: title pages proposals dont grow from trees ;) [well the pages do ;)]  and then we have wolter throwing up a new proposal and everyone says , yes we want that and no feedback or direction what to do ..
[08:40]  * vish feels like a running headless chicken
[08:40] <godbyk> vish: I hear ya!
[08:40] <godbyk> Design-by-committee is evil.
[08:41] <thorwil> i'm writing an email to the list
[08:41] <thorwil> explaining the what and why of a design process and describing the current state of things
[08:42]  * godbyk wonders if that'll go over like a lead balloon.
[08:42] <godbyk> I think it needs to be done, though.
[08:56] <vish> thorwil: how to apply kerning in inkscape? or rather is there an option?
[08:56] <thorwil> vish: yes, it's a modifier key plus arrow keys right/left thing
[08:56] <thorwil> not sure if it was alt or ctrl ...
[08:57]  * vish hmm.. tries
[09:01] <vish> ah , got it , its alt+
[09:44]  * thorwil sends mail in 3 parts
[16:16] <ianto> Anyone seen Ilya lately?


[04:26] <MutantTurkey> got the t61 in
[04:26] <MutantTurkey> it's awesome
[04:26] <MutantTurkey> but the battery life is embarassing
[04:29] <MutantTurkey> and without aero windows seeven looks like sheyat
[09:26] <rmg51> Morning
[10:43] <InHisName> Morning
[10:44] <InHisName> OOooooo, its saturday.  Anything going on today ?
[13:31] <waltman> Morning.
[14:32] <jedijf> learn to solder class at hive76
[20:12] <waltman> Very dark cloud rolling in over Bryn Mawr. Looks like it was a good idea to get my afternoon walk in earlier.
[20:40] <rmg51> and I'm getting ready to go to dinner at a friends house
[20:50] <rmg51> dinner is canceled
[21:02] <waltman> wow
[21:02] <waltman> I'm not sure if every started raining here.
[21:05] <rmg51> not raining here
[21:05] <rmg51> mom doesn't feel good :P
[21:06] <rmg51> no steak dinner for me and the bear tonight :-(
[21:06] <JonathanD> waltman: new asian buffet in norristown is great.
[21:08] <rmg51> I was wrong
[21:08] <rmg51> it is raining here
[21:11] <waltman> JonathanD: Oh? Which new asian buffet in norristown?
[21:11] <JonathanD> 5 loaves 2 fishes.
[21:11] <JonathanD> it's at 202 and germantown
[21:11] <JonathanD> we stopped there today.
[21:11] <waltman> ah, up there.
[21:11] <JonathanD> excellent spread.
[21:12] <waltman> Sushi?
[21:13] <JonathanD> yes
[21:13] <waltman> I'll have to check it out sometime.
[21:14] <JonathanD> Maybe we'll meet you there some time.
[21:16] <waltman> maybe!
[21:16] <waltman> Not today though.
[21:16] <JonathanD> No, not today.
[21:18] <waltman> Anything particularly remarkable about it?
[21:19] <JonathanD> waltman: just a nice spread. They had americanish food for the kids if they we're feeling the asian.
[21:19] <waltman> not feeling?
[21:20] <JonathanD> Lots of items. I had some chicken on a stick, fried rice, general tso's.
[21:20] <waltman> mmm
[21:20] <JonathanD> if they were not feeling like asian
[21:20] <JonathanD> they had pizza and stuff too.
[21:20] <JonathanD> really good crab rangoon things.
[21:20] <waltman> I have a taste for something asian, but my stomach's been bothering me. I think I'm just going to have some soup for dinner.
[21:21] <JonathanD> hot and sour soup
[21:21] <JonathanD> always settles my stomach :P
[21:21] <JonathanD> waltman: they had a soup bar with 8 or so soups.
[21:21] <waltman> mmm
[21:21] <JonathanD> there were I think 8 seperate bars, + sushi.
[21:22] <JonathanD> It was all very good.
[21:22] <waltman> mmm
[21:22] <JonathanD> and like, $9
[21:23] <waltman> mmm
[21:25] <waltman> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/7957087900/in/contacts/ # pleia2's found the holodeck console!
[21:28] <JonathanD> uhoh.
[21:33] <rmg51> it was bound to happen sooner or later :-/
[21:34] <JonathanD> I just installed a new server in the basement, too.
[21:34] <JonathanD> 16GB ram.
[21:36] <waltman> nice
[21:36] <JonathanD> Running minecraft :P
[21:36] <JonathanD> Someone paid me with it.
[21:37] <JonathanD> well, partially.
[21:37] <waltman> barter++
[21:37] <waltman> If I have to get a windows box for this postdoc, I don't know where I'm going to put it.
[21:37] <JonathanD> you can host a windows VM on my new server.
[21:37] <JonathanD> thats what it's for.
[21:37] <waltman> Maybe I'll get a big new linux box and put a vm on it.
[21:38] <waltman> I probably need a big honkin' video card, too.
[21:38] <JonathanD> What are you doing with it?
[21:38] <JonathanD> how honkin?
[21:38] <JonathanD> I have a couple spares.
[21:39] <waltman> The prof who'd be my adviser/boss is doing video analysis of stem cells.
[21:39] <waltman> he's doing something that he's offloading to GPUs
[21:39] <JonathanD> ah
[21:39] <JonathanD> so you need real GPUs
[21:39] <waltman> yeah
[21:40] <JonathanD> I don't have anything, other than a 285, that might be useful.
[21:40] <waltman> his work machine is some crazy big 17" alienware gamer laptop
[21:41] <JonathanD> The 285 is probably too slow these days.
[21:41] <waltman> I'm just using the onboard intel video on my 7+ year old mobo.
[21:41] <JonathanD> Thats effectively useless in these cases :p
[21:42] <JonathanD> http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-285
[21:42] <JonathanD> You can have that if you want it, but I bet a newer one would have the same oomph for less watts.
[21:42] <waltman> It's fine so long as I don't do a lot of video watching
[21:43] <waltman> The entire box need to be upgraded.
[21:43] <JonathanD> yah
[21:43] <JonathanD> well, 7 year old mobo video card means 7 year old mobo to go with it.
[21:43] <waltman> well, yeah
[21:43] <JonathanD> SO yeah. Build something capable of virtualization?
[21:45] <waltman> I guess.
[21:46] <waltman> Anyway, it's still to early to be worrying about that.
[21:47] <waltman> Mostly I use this box for email, irc, web browsing, and LaTeX. It works fine for that.


[02:29] <vlowther> for all you kernel hackers: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/212660 <-- now with the commit that broke things for me.
[02:38] <pwnguin> ooh neat
[02:40] <pwnguin> you two are quite the pair
[02:42] <vlowther> hm?
[02:42] <pwnguin> you and mdom
[02:43]  * vlowther is missing something.
[02:43] <pwnguin> last time you came in, and moments later mdomsch came in to help ;)
[02:44] <vlowther> probably due to tryingto figure out how that ehco watchdog timer change interacts with freezing processes.
[02:44] <mdomsch> I log on after putting the kids to bed
[02:44] <vlowther> oh, for an ubuntu kernel build with kdbg
[02:46]  * vlowther has no kids to put to bed.  Yet.  Work is in progress.
[02:47] <vlowther> scheduled release date in second week of Aug.
[03:09] <vlowther> anyways, pinged smb about the bug -- hopefully I will get a response.
[03:40] <pwnguin> vlowther: when i do "git show 978a8bed296d7f5d76c" i get a wierd recurisve set of logs then the diff
[03:40] <pwnguin> any ideas what that's about?
[03:43] <pwnguin> i guess it's just combining the logs from the commits that were pulled for the fix
[03:56] <vlowther> yeah
[03:57] <vlowther> that commit appears to be a bunch of smaller related commits cherry-picked out of upstream and applied as one commit
[03:57] <vlowther> which is, imao, a bloody stupid way to do it.
[03:58]  * vlowther prefers the "microbranch and merge" method of bugfixes.
[03:58] <vlowther>  /end micro-rant
[11:29] <Xtreme_Great> I wanted some help regarding kernel module programming
[11:29] <Xtreme_Great> The compiler can't find module.h
[11:29] <Xtreme_Great> can anyone help?
[15:43] <benc> nick BenC
[18:14] <Xtreme_Great> I needed some help regarding the building of the restricted drivers modules
[18:15] <Xtreme_Great> Without that, I cannot run even the sound drivers of the computer
[18:15] <Xtreme_Great> can anyone help?
[18:26] <Xtreme_Great> Can anyone help regarding building the kernel?
[18:26] <Xtreme_Great> I am stuck with this thing since the last 8 hours...
[18:26] <Xtreme_Great> can anyone help?
[23:56] <noelferreira> my keys sometimes get stucked and other times simply doesn't work. can you help me with this huge bug? http://pastebin.com/m2b2e6e43