[00:00] <check_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?orderby=datecreated&start=0  sort-order -->> Server error, please contact an administrator. OOPS ID:OOPS-9e425f1fd4592e9db9be1a3308923586
[00:00] <kdawg> hi
[00:00] <MMan_> Maybe it is time for linux community, special ubuntu one to build its own search service!
[00:00] <kdawg> Sorry something happened when i was using life cd and xchat
[00:00] <kdawg> now i booted to windows lol
[00:01] <kdawg> probaly was i went to scroll down the chat page
[00:01] <kdawg> and there was a yellow thing over xchat made the whole screen area it covered yellow, then nothing was clickable
[00:01] <OerHeks> MMan_, maybe this works for you, output to vdpau ot openGL GLX http://www.attabot.org/linux/remove-green-lines-vlc-media-player-linux/
[00:01] <OerHeks> c/ot/or
[00:02] <Bashing-om> MMan_: Google does very well by us : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages . Try the search here .
[00:02] <MMan_> Thank you all iam on m way
[00:03] <kdawg> anyone have and ideas
[00:03] <MMan_> OerHeks i believe your solution could be the one!
[00:03] <matejko> post some links people it is opening! and I missed it
[00:05] <de-facto> in my experience xv is pretty fast for vlc output
[00:05] <check_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?orderby=datecreated&start=0   sort-order -->> Server error, please contact an administrator. OOPS ID:OOPS-4dc20cec3262c6a32be4b4fc9b99242f
[00:07] <k1l_> check_: that url works here
[00:08] <check_> did y change acend decend
[00:08] <k1l_> no
[00:08] <k1l_> check_: can click on the asc/desc and it sorts new.
[00:09] <Rarrikins> check_: It works here as well, but you can report it here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[00:10] <check_> asc/desc on date or age gives erroe?
[00:10] <k1l_> check_: not for me
[00:10] <check_> tnks
[00:10] <OerHeks> if you hit that switch too often per minute, you might get that oops
[00:11] <check_> hit change once
[00:11] <check_> happens every time in one direction
[00:12] <k1l_> check_: tried in a private browser and i  do get an error when not logged in.
[00:12] <check_> yes i'm not logged in
[00:12] <k1l_> check_: i guess that is a topic for #launchpad then
[00:13] <check_> tkns do they have an irc channel?
[00:13] <k1l_> that is the irc channel :)
[00:14] <check_> thank you
[00:14] <maddawg2> lol
[00:14] <maddawg2> IRC much
[00:14] <maddawg2> lol
[00:15] <matejko> how to go to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:15] <k1l_> well, people do get confused with hashtags from social media :)
[00:15] <k1l_> !ot | matejko
[00:16] <RLShiftyDoggit> you do the slash join command then #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:16] <matejko> RLShiftyDoggit: not working
[00:16] <k1l_> matejko: you need to register with freenode first, like the bot told you
[00:17] <RLShiftyDoggit> yeah reg first then log in then join
[00:17] <MMan> i miss the old nice K9 dog :(
[00:19] <wadadli> k1l_: sorry didn't know canonical maintained mpv and audacity
[00:19] <hpsmm> yeaaaah
[00:19] <wadadli> k1l_: just ask any question you wan't not having to do with the /topic
[00:20] <wadadli> k1l_: got it
[00:21] <hpsmm> thank you guys.. one last question, how to type apostroph?
[00:22] <hpsmm> in ubuntu? in windows it was alt+36 but that dont work now
[00:23] <hpsmm> I'm noob, got it
[00:25] <debkad> think in linux is a little different, ctrl+shift+u then the number
[00:25] <k1l_> i have that on my keyboard layout and can just press that key :)
[00:26] <debkad> cool
[00:26] <MMan> tc all gtg see you later! and never forget, thing out of the box.
[00:26] <debkad> k1l_: shortcut or just the quote is on the keyboard?
[00:27] <hpsmm> debkad: I don't have so many arms lol ... right alt+ 2 buttons to the left from L button (bettween enter and "L") working for me
[00:27] <debkad> :D
[00:27] <hpsmm> *2 buttons to the right
[00:28] <debkad> echo -e "\u" is cool too
[00:28] <debkad> :p
[00:29] <debkad> damn i forget my question
[00:38] <votlon> ello all
[00:38] <votlon> was wondering what the best way to get a mx5 pro for ubuntu phone was, if anyone new in the chat :)
[00:38] <votlon> usa at&t network
[00:44] <gde33> is there a way to have vlc always be able to write to its config file?
[00:44] <gde33> I have to set it to always on top every time I use it
[00:45] <lotuspsychje> !touch | votlon
[00:45] <lotuspsychje> gde33: perhaps the #videolan guys might know also?
[00:46] <debkad> gde33: you mean you changed the config and when you start it next time it get to the default config?
[00:46] <votlon> Ye i got that, but finding the hardware seems impossible
[00:46] <gde33> debkad: yes
[00:46] <votlon> jd.com isn't selling them and won't response to questions :p
[00:46] <debkad> gde33: my guess is permission issue but as lotuspsychje said, the folks in ##videolan may know what's wrong
[00:47] <sandeepkr_> Is there a linux based OS that comes preinstalled with python, numpy and matplotlib? need it in form of a live cd.
[00:48] <sandeepkr_> an ubuntu based will be nice
[00:48] <debkad> why not just install them
[00:49] <sandeepkr_> need it in form of a live cd.
[00:49] <votlon> persistant partition the softwares is the easy way or google how to make ur own live cd :)
[00:50] <debkad> i was to say that
[00:50] <debkad> customized os
[00:53] <kdawg> How to mount a drive in linux without formating it
[00:54] <bazhang> what sort of drive kdawg
[00:54] <debkad> kdawg: that what mount do
[00:55] <kdawg> one sec i'll try and write it in one message
[00:56] <kdawg> I am looking to back up data from a drive from and old nas i build using windows home server 2011 using drive bender. To make use of drive pool. Its readible from latest ubuntu live cd however its not mounted and show that its empty
[00:57] <Bashing-om> kdawg: Terminology ? as 'mount' attaches 'file systems ' .
[00:57] <kdawg> i am currently reading this article
[00:57] <kdawg> m
[00:57] <kdawg> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/261515/how-can-i-mount-a-disk-without-formatting-it
[00:58] <hpsmm> ok I go to sleep its 2:58am here :) goodnight and thx k1l_ :)
[00:58] <OerHeks> kdawg, you need to find out what the partition(s) are and what type, ext4/ntfs/exfat ..
[00:58] <kdawg> ntfs
[00:59] <OerHeks> if that NTFS is clean, no broken files or something, you would see it in filemanager
[00:59] <gde33> changing permission didn't work (assuming I did it correctly)
[01:01] <kdawg> changing permissions?
[01:02] <kdawg> you mean some how claiming owner ship of the drive before mounting it
[01:02] <OerHeks> gde33, vlc got that option in its menu http://askubuntu.com/questions/100231/how-to-set-always-on-top-on-vlc-by-default
[01:02] <kdawg> Also ubuntu mounts all other drives connected on bootup
[01:02] <kdawg> just this one shows up in disks
[01:02] <gde33> OerHeks: I keep changing that, it just forgets I did
[01:03] <OerHeks> kdawg, no permission change, ntfs is not posix, if that ntfs partition is not visible automatic, then check with windows chkdsk
[01:03] <kdawg> as unallocated space
[01:04] <kdawg> windows shows it as a drive thats 16843 GB lol
[01:04] <kdawg> which its not
[01:04] <lordcirth> kdawg, sounds like one of those Chinese 16TB HDD's they sell on the street XD
[01:05] <kdawg> its a 3tb
[01:05] <kdawg> lol
[01:06] <kdawg> ubuntu knows what it is lol
[01:06] <kdawg> i think because it was part of a drive pool
[01:06] <OerHeks> format it
[01:06] <kdawg> it shows the entire pool data size or tire size of the pool size. if that makes sent
[01:07] <kdawg> i dont want to formate it i want to keep the file structure
[01:07] <debkad> kdawg: if you are sure there were data inside it, try undelete
[01:07] <OerHeks> nope, not with ntfs
[01:08] <kdawg> you mean i cant keep the folder structure
[01:09] <kdawg> Heres the thing in the passed long time ago anyways sometimes there was away to mount drives and to display the data the best it could. However i dont remember how. hense why i am here.
[01:09] <debkad> i meant Testdik sorry for a typo
[01:09] <kdawg> You could then backup your files. and corrupted files would copy
[01:10] <kdawg> wouldn't*
[01:10] <kdawg> i mean
[01:10] <kdawg> but this was at least 10 years ago since i've attempted something like this
[01:10] <debkad> kdawg: read this http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step it may help you i think
[01:11] <kdawg> thanks i'll read it right now
[01:11] <debkad> especially the part "NTFS Boot sector recovery" kdawg
[01:12] <debkad> cross fingers too :)
[01:16] <kdawg> umm i wonder
[01:16] <kdawg> I can try plugging in the drive directly to the motherboard
[01:17] <kdawg> in the passed if memory serves me right sometimes that works
[01:17] <kdawg> to read the disk
[01:17] <kdawg> properly
[01:17] <kdawg> wish me luck
[01:17] <debkad> good luck
[01:21] <etzerd> hello all
[01:21] <Keydns> how is it i am supposed to save attachments through alpine?
[01:22] <etzerd> how do i check which version of linux that I'm using
[01:22] <debkad> etzerd: uname
[01:22] <debkad> for full: uname -a
[01:22] <bazhang> lsb_release =a  you mean
[01:22] <etzerd> thanks
[01:22] <debkad> or cat /etc/os-release
[01:23] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue
[01:23] <Keydns> figure it out!!
[01:23] <Keydns> figured (***
[01:23] <bazhang> debkad, presumably he means the OS, not the kernel
[01:23] <OerHeks> hostnamectl status
[01:24] <debkad> bazhang: ah you're right, i mis-understand the question
[01:28] <kdawg> anyone no if cardboard is conductive
[01:28] <kdawg> want it to temporarily seperate a hard drive from my ssd
[01:28] <kdawg> lol
[01:28] <kdawg> temporary might be like 4 days
[01:29] <kdawg> or does that sound like a bad idea
[01:30] <bazhang> ##hardware kdawg
[01:30] <lordcirth> kdawg, cardboard is not conductive.  But be careful about things slipping, falling, vibrating, etc
[01:30] <debkad> didn't get that, but may be it is better to ask that in ##hardware or something
[01:31] <kdawg> yup thanks just didn't want a static charge or something lol
[01:31] <kdawg> i brushed it off by hand a lil in case of dust
[01:31] <debkad> never touch the device when under electricity ( just an advice )
[01:31] <lordcirth> kdawg, cardboard can cause static, I don't know how bad.  Again, ##hardware.
[01:33] <kdawg> thanks lordcirth
[01:36] <dust> ubuntu-drivers-common:i386:
[01:36] <dust>  Depends: python3-apt but it is not going to be installed
[01:36] <dust>  Depends: python3-xkit  but it is not installable
[01:36] <dust>   Conflicts: ubuntu-drivers-common  but 1:<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed
[01:37] <dust> without them steam dosnt run... 16.04
[01:37] <gtxbb> kdawg, know is not spelled "no"
[01:47] <Ranieri__> Hello #ubuntu
[01:48] <Ranieri__> I have a particular problem. I need to print out some pages of a secure pdf that uses Vitrium. It's unprintable and uncopyable. You have to log into it on page 1, and then it accesses a server for the content before it's displayed. Any ideas?
[01:49] <Ranieri__> If I screenshot the pages, it is very blurry when I need to print it.
[01:50] <Ranieri__> Also, the only reader that properly unlocks the pdf is adobe reader. I am licensed to read it, so I have the content
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[01:50] <Spaz> hi
[02:02] <aus_mal> Hi, I am trying to uninstall an application. When using sudo apt-get remove --purge it gets rid of most, but searching in files reveals that there are some files left over, am I missing something or will I inevitably have to manually remove some files. Thanks.
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> aus_mal: what did you purge exactly
[02:11] <aus_mal> it was gnome-mahjongg
[02:12] <aus_mal> then i typed in apt-get autoremove
[02:13] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: Maybe ' sudo apt autoremove gnome-mahjongg ' But the package manager will not touch files in your /home .
[02:13] <aus_mal> sorry if I should be browsing askubuntu or the forums, just got a bit lonely!
[02:15] <aus_mal> thanks for the answers, just to confirm: "sudo apt autoremove --purge" will get rid of everything associated with the program EXCEPT what is in the Home folder, and I can stop obsessing about any files that were left over? Thanks again.
[02:21] <ubuntu309> Anyone know when a Ubuntu phone will be available
[02:22] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: I am a hands on type .. and it is surprising what ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' reveals about orphaned files .
[02:24] <aus_mal> thanks, I will try to decipher that!
[02:25] <aus_mal> aha.
[02:25] <codepython7771> my apt-get update is hanging
[02:25] <codepython7771> how do i fix that?
[02:26] <aus_mal> would love to learn what all these mean and do. would "just" learning bash help with that? Thank you mate.
[02:26] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: Basically all it says is that if the package manager finds a file marked as 'rc' then purge it !
[02:28] <etzerd> hi all
[02:28] <etzerd> ?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> aus_mal: Learning bash is never a waste of effort : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide . My favorite .
[02:28] <aus_mal> thanks very much!
[02:29] <Chukaru> my battery is charged 100% but it doesn't stop, the battery still keeps charging for no reason at all. how can i fix this?
[02:29] <etzerd> I'm using ubuntu 16.10 beta 1 now beta 2 is just release. how do I upgrade to beta 2 or should I do a fresh install?
[02:29] <Chukaru> im on ubuntu 16.04
[02:29] <Chukaru> please someone lend me a hand
[02:30] <etzerd> I'm using ubuntu 16.10 beta 1 now beta 2 is just release. how do I upgrade to beta 2 or should I do a fresh install?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> !16.10 | etzerd
[02:30] <Chukaru> etzerd, please be patient, i too have submitted a problem
[02:31] <Chukaru> my battery is charged 100% but it doesn't stop, the battery still keeps charging for no reason at all. how can i fix this?
[02:35] <etzerd> thanks
[02:43] <jtdesigns01> how do I create a service of the kind manageable with "sudo service * stop/start/status"  in ubuntu 16.04?
[02:45] <Bashing-om> jtdesigns01: See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers http://www.howtogeek.com/216454/how-to-manage-systemd-services-on-a-linux-system/ .
[02:45] <debkad> jtdesigns01: i think most init are under /etc/init.d pick one and see how it is wrotten
[02:47] <jtdesigns01> debkad: yeah, but when I did that and tried to start it,  it told me that the ".service" unit wasnt found. IE systemd unit file.
[02:50] <debkad> that for systemd ".service" i think
[02:57] <rexwin_> I have a production server running websites. Will running sudo apt--get upgrade break my apache and SSL functionality?
[02:59] <Bashing-om> rexwin_: "upgrade" only updates installed packages . and if you are stable now there is no reason to expect breakage . ( sudo apt update 1st !)
[02:59] <uminded> Im stuck in nvidia login loop. Virtual console is dumping call traces and i cant log in. Secure boot is disabled. How do I remove the driver?
[03:00] <rexwin_> can I revert back to the original version after apt-get upgrade if there are problems?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> rexwin_: short answer is no . Long answer is yes with a lot of trouble and know how .
[03:01] <codepython7771> anyone knows how to fix this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23249502/ ?
[03:05] <Bashing-om> !info texlive-latex-base-doc trusty updates
[03:06] <Bashing-om> codepython7771: ^ a PPA " what returns ' apt-cache policy texlive-latex-base ' ?
[03:09] <codepython7771> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23249519/
[03:10] <OerHeks> contact the ppa maintainer, bad packaging. or you didn't remove texlive before using this ppa.
[03:12] <Guest38355> Hello
[03:12] <codepython7771> OerHeks: am i supposed to remove texlive before adding the ppa?
[03:13] <OerHeks> codepython7771, the lin#53 goes wrong, Unpacking texlive-latex-base-doc
[03:13] <OerHeks> so without previous docs, maybe you succeed
[03:14] <codepython7771> OerHeks: how do i remove current texlive, before i try again?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> ghjkl;'
[03:17] <codepython7771> OerHeks: sudo apt-get purge texlive* - cant even execute that
[03:17] <OerHeks> use ppa-purge
[03:17] <codepython7771> OerHeks: exact command please
[03:17] <OerHeks> and the option -purge and autoclean and see if there is any cruft in your homefolder
[03:17] <OerHeks> no
[03:17] <fastAndBulbous> I have to regularly transfer large amount of audio files to an android device and the mtp transfer is heinously slow... is there a way to speed this up or this just the way it is?
[03:17] <OerHeks> first ppa purge
[03:18] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[03:18] <OerHeks> good luck, i don't support ppa's further. endless game.
[03:21] <Guest38355> Greetings
[03:21] <Guest38355> End Game huh.
[03:22] <Guest38355> Not a very fun alternative
[03:23]  * OerHeks wonders how that is related to ubuntu support
[03:25] <leptone> is vim not installed by default on ubuntu 16 LTS?
[03:26] <leptone> i can use the vi command (like i usually do on OS X) but a lot of the commands were working different that how they used to in vi on my mac.
[03:27] <cash> Hi Everyone
[03:27] <OerHeks> vi is installed, Vim Improved
[03:33] <trevor_s> how do i stop an old program from running in linux when there are two different versions?
[03:33] <trevor_s> the old one always runs instead of the new one
[03:34] <OerHeks> normally the old one gets disabled.
[03:34] <trevor_s> ok well lets assume that doesn't happen
[03:35] <OerHeks> but with this much info, who can tell?
[03:35] <trevor_s> these are tools that were cloned from github
[03:36] <coonundrum> are there any white nationalists here?
[03:36] <cash> no coonundrum
[03:37] <debkad> ?
[03:38] <OerHeks> he is lonely, guys, not seeking ubuntu support.
[03:38] <coonundrum> no i just want to code with fellow white nationalists
[03:38] <coonundrum> we can improve the ubuntu codebase
[03:38] <debkad> hmm
[03:39] <cash> Guys i have a legit question - i have an old macbook 5,2 that I UEFI boot ubuntu with.  Sometimes when I resume from Suspend, the wireless card (broadcom) doesnt turn back on and pickup wifi
[03:39] <coonundrum> that's a known problem cash
[03:40] <cash> any suggestions? I am not sure if this is wifi driver related, or some other problem - it happends randomly
[03:40] <coonundrum> i experience the same problem and so do a bunch of my friends
[03:40] <coonundrum> what i did was write a bash script that resets the wireless interfaces
[03:40] <cash> so.. if i type sudo restart service network-manager it may or may not come back
[03:41] <cash> im guessing thats what your script does?
[03:41] <coonundrum> yeah something like that
[03:41] <cash> I guess i am thinking of possibly changing wifi drivers
[03:41] <cash> my card is partially supported by b43
[03:41] <cash> but right now im using wl (aka bcmwl-kernel-source)
[03:41] <coonundrum> http://askubuntu.com/questions/452826/wireless-networking-not-working-after-resume-in-ubuntu-14-04
[03:42] <coonundrum> that's an issue from 14.04
[03:42] <coonundrum> that's like 2 years ago lol
[03:42] <coonundrum> what version are you running?
[03:42] <cash> 16.04
[03:42] <cash> on this macbook - its not my main machine but id like to get it working somehow
[03:42] <cash> i mean, it works, but id like to squash the remaining bugs when i find em
[03:43] <coonundrum> well ubuntu is kinky like that
[03:43] <cash> oddly, i was using fedora 24 and for 2 weeks i had no problems on the 4.7.2 kernel until it was updated
[03:43] <cash> but that was over a month ago
[03:44] <cash> and i brought it back to ubuntu on a uefi boot, not a bios boot
[03:44] <cash> so far thngs have been slightly better but the broadcom wifi issues are so annoying when they pop up
[03:44] <coonundrum> they should just integrate code that automatically resets all drives after suspension
[03:44] <coonundrum> is over
[03:44] <cash> thats a good idea
[03:44] <cash> I wonder tho - should I try the b43 driver instead of WL?
[03:45] <coonundrum> see if that makes a difference
[03:45] <cash> ok
[03:45] <cash> could the issue be graphics related?  Im using the stock driver but this macbook has a geforce 9400m from nvidia
[03:45] <fission6> i am running sudo service celery start and getting start: Job failed to start
[03:45] <fission6> how can i debug a bit
[03:46] <cash> nvidia, apple, broadcom = proprietary mess
[03:46] <coonundrum> you're running a vm on top right?
[03:48] <WhiteNationalist> i don't know why i was klined
[03:48] <WhiteNationalist> i didn't violate any of freenode's terms of service
[03:48] <WhiteNationalist> rip
[03:48] <WhiteNationalist> lol
[03:49] <debkad> oh that you lol
[03:49] <cash> kik
[03:49] <cash> lol
[03:49] <cash> coonundrum who were you asking about the vm?
[03:49] <WhiteNationalist> you cash
[03:50] <WhiteNationalist> i was asking if you were using a vm
[03:50] <cash> Ahh
[03:50] <cash> Ok
[03:50] <cash> No I am not using a VM
[03:50] <cash> the old macbook boots in uefi mode straight from the bootloader
[03:50] <WhiteNationalist> that's cool
[03:50] <cash> oddly - the trackpad configured itself totally differently than a Bios install
[03:51] <cash> did this automaticlly - theres no right click anymore lol
[03:51] <cash> but thats another issue
[03:51] <j0_> were can one go to get paid linux support? i'm needing help reinstalling grub on an older system
[03:51] <cash> my employees use it
[03:51] <cash> j0 call system76
[03:51] <cash> $100 per hr
[03:51] <NeXTSUN> why would a whitenationalist use ubuntu?
[03:51] <WhiteNationalist> NeXTSUN: why not?
[03:51] <j0_> cash: thanks.. anyone that does 24x7 support? :)
[03:52] <NeXTSUN> why not aryan OS?
[03:52] <fission6> how do i reload upstart scripts in /etc/init
[03:52] <cash> j0 idk
[03:52] <WhiteNationalist> ubuntu is a decent os that you can use to develop web apps with
[03:52] <NeXTSUN> Yeah but ubtuntu is about africa
[03:52] <cfhowlett> NeXTSUN, please.  not even remotely true.
[03:52] <WhiteNationalist> mark shuttleworth is white
[03:53] <NeXTSUN> ironic right?
[03:53] <NeXTSUN> but he loves ....
[03:53] <Bashing-om> j0_: What is the nature of the problem that you do not utilize these assetts here ?
[03:53] <NeXTSUN> mark shuttlwworth loves africa
[03:53] <j0_> Bashing-om: i'm in a rush and would prefer to pay for support and hand holding :)
[03:53] <NeXTSUN> wouldn't that be against the white cause whitenationalist??
[03:53] <WhiteNationalist> no
[03:53] <cash> j0 unfortunatley linux takes forever
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !ot | NeXTSUN
[03:54] <WhiteNationalist> actually it's bonus points for the white cause
[03:54] <WhiteNationalist> you never saw any non whites invent computers or software
[03:54] <cash> yo White -Dr Dre invented beats, so there
[03:54] <j0_> cash: lol.. yes, it sometimes does... it's been too many years since I worked with linux so all my knowledge is rusty
[03:54] <cash> :)
[03:54] <fission6> why does this ln -s show up in black and red? http://imgur.com/a/PUJ3f
[03:54] <WhiteNationalist> cash lol that's not an invention
[03:54] <cash> j0 the internet has so much free info
[03:55] <NeXTSUN> why name dedicate it african philosphy then and use the os?
[03:55] <reisio> fission6: readlink it
[03:55] <cash> Jay Z invented the Tidal Software whch is bombing
[03:55] <WhiteNationalist> he did not invent that either
[03:55] <fission6> reisio: ?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> j0_: Sorry - not really though - that I know of no such; Maybe a local shop ?
[03:55] <reisio> fission6: 'readlinke path/to/thing'
[03:55] <cfhowlett> fission6, your terminal is set to display that way.  different terminal emulators = different themes
[03:55] <NeXTSUN> mark shuttleworth would be disgusted in you whitenationalist so why use his software?
[03:55] <reisio> fission6: 'readlink path/to/thing'
[03:55] <j0_> Bashing-om, not any local linux shops i'm aware of
[03:55] <reisio> yes, the white south african would be disgusted
[03:55] <WhiteNationalist> LOL
[03:55] <j0_> right now i'm not even able to boot my rescue cd.. keeps wanting to know where my driver image is.. ideas?
[03:56] <cash> the wright brothers were black right?
[03:56] <reisio> cash: obviously
[03:56] <WhiteNationalist> get mark shuttleworth in here and let's see what he says
[03:56] <NeXTSUN> iam pretty sure mark shuttleworth is liberal as isarael and your not
[03:56] <WhiteNationalist> you're not being very liberal right now with your attacks
[03:56] <fission6> reisio: what am i looking for in the output
[03:56] <fission6> i get celery.cong
[03:56] <fission6> which is odd
[03:56] <reisio> fission6: pastebin
[03:57] <NeXTSUN> you're
[03:57] <NeXTSUN> who said i WAS
[03:57] <fission6> should be celery.conf but i dont understand what readlink is showing
[03:57] <NeXTSUN> I just find it ironic
[03:57] <Bashing-om> j0_: 1st oeder is to insure that in bios the CD drive is set to 1st boot priority .
[03:57] <NeXTSUN> and gives your name a bad rap
[03:57] <j0_> Bashing-om, i think i'm going to try to burn it to an actual physical CD.. (it is an old system)
[03:57] <j0_> right now i'm trying off USB
[03:57] <cash> guys - lets not get carried away.  back to computer stuff
[03:58] <debkad> what happen here
[03:58] <WhiteNationalist> NeXTSUN: it would be ironic if the people who invented ubuntu were niggers
[03:58] <cfhowlett> j0_, old systems like lubuntu
[03:58] <debkad> ah solved
[03:58] <cash> yes cfhowlett
[03:58] <procyon> why did that take so long :|
[03:58] <cash> they love it
[03:58] <Bashing-om> j0_: one other step back . verify the .iso ? and verify the cipy to USB ?
[03:59] <cash> especially old ex-corporate business laptops from Dell
[04:02] <cash> guys, when i type lspci -knn | grep Net -A2 , im told i have a different wifi card than I actually do
[04:08] <fission6> how do i reload upstart scripts, it does not seem to reconigze the service of a script
[04:09] <Rarrikins> fission6: service whatever restart
[04:09] <Bashing-om> fission6: What release are you on ?
[04:09] <debkad> service name_of_service restart or stop then start
[04:09] <fission6> celery: unrecognized service
[04:09] <fission6> i just added celery.conf to /etc/init/
[04:10] <debkad> o_o
[04:11] <fission6> any ideas/
[04:14] <debkad> fission6: there is a simple init.d script here: https://gist.github.com/naholyr/4275302 take a look
[04:16] <debkad> i think i lost internet again
[04:16] <fission6> my issue is that upstart does not find the service
[04:17] <debkad> you must create it i think, as like in the example in that link
[04:30] <unrobot> Suggest me a good icon pack that suits with ARC dark theme.
[05:15] <ubuntu> 10:40:188:48
[05:26] <Guest38355> lol
[05:26] <Guest38355> Looking for freenode admins
[05:26] <cfhowlett> Guest38355, go to freenode, not ubuntu
[05:35] <matejko> !ot
[05:36] <matejko> @login
[05:36] <matejko> how to login?
[05:36] <matejko> :D
[05:36] <matejko> on IRC
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !register | matejko
[05:39] <matejko> cfhowlett: thx but im registered but don't know how to login lol
[05:40] <pantato> i'm trying to use youtube-dl to download a playlist
[05:40] <pantato> and the online articles i'm seeing aren't helping
[05:40] <pantato> it only downloads the first song
[05:40] <pantato> i've tried a bunch of different arguments
[05:40] <pantato> no idea what i'm doing wrong
[05:42] <ballpen> pantato: paste yer output bro
[05:42] <Jordan_U> matejko: Your IRC client should have an option to set a login password. While there are other ways to identify, that is usually the best way.
[05:42] <ballpen> youtube-dl "playlist_url"
[05:42] <pantato> ballpen: figured it out. I needed to put the url in quotes
[05:42] <ballpen> cool
[05:42] <pantato> don't need quotes for a singular video though. Weird.
[05:43] <ballpen> pantato: it also happens in peerflix
[05:43] <debkad> may be it contain some special characters
[05:43] <debkad> ie: & and stuff
[05:43] <ballpen> you need to put torrent/magnet link in quotes
[05:43] <pantato> ownload] 100% of 4.95MiB in 00:00
[05:43] <pantato> woops didn't mean to paste that
[05:43] <debkad> congratulation
[05:44] <pantato> ballpen: ooh can i use that to bypass tpb's stupid magnet thing?
[05:44] <ballpen> pantato: it helps in streaming movies without downloading it
[05:45] <ballpen> peerflix "torrent/magnet lin" --vlc/mplayer
[05:45] <matejko_2> @login
[05:45] <pantato> oh sick
[05:45] <matejko_2> @login hpsmm
[05:46] <pantato> that's awesome
[05:46] <pantato> is there a gui version?
[05:46] <ballpen> pantato: sure it is
[05:46] <ballpen> pantato: no gui bro but cli one is very easy to use
[05:47] <hpsmm> @login
[05:48] <hpsmm> @login hpsmm
[05:48] <hpsmm> !login
[05:48] <hpsmm> @login
[05:48] <hpsmm> !identify
[05:48] <cfhowlett> hpsmm, 1.  that is not how freenoe logs in   2.  this is not the freenode channel.  go to #freenode
[05:49] <hpsmm> okay i get it, thx
[05:53] <hpsmm> finally?
[05:55] <DK2> what is the best way to upgrade a productive server from ubuntu 14 to 16?
[05:56] <ballpen> DK2: take ma advice don't do it
[05:56] <ballpen> 14 is still much better than 16
[05:56] <DK2> whys that?
[05:57] <OerHeks> DK2, just upgrade to the next lts, and read the changes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[05:58] <OerHeks> and if you production-server, you should have a test-server too
[05:58] <OerHeks> c/if you have
[06:00] <alkisg> It's quite easy to do a `cp -a /old-installation /new-installation` to keep a backup before upgrades...
[06:00] <orlock> OerHeks: Everybody has a test server - Some people even have seperate production serers!
[06:21] <ulrichard> How can I run a snap from the commandline? "snap run telegram-sergiusens" doesn't work.
[06:25] <ducasse> ulrichard: look in /snap/bin
[06:25] <OerHeks> ulrichard, snap list # then you find the names, type a few letters and tab to complete
[06:31] <ulrichard> OerHeks: That is how I found the name that the question is about.
[06:32] <ulrichard> ducasse: What do I look for in /snap/bin?
[06:32] <OerHeks> wait, after install, isn't it available in the dash menu with icon ?
[06:32] <OerHeks> jups, it is
[06:33] <ulrichard> OerHeks: Yes, I can start it from the dash. But I want it to automatically start when I log in.
[06:34] <OerHeks> open startup programs, type telegram in dash, and drag the icon to startup programs, done
[06:37] <ulrichard> OerHeks: That seems to work. Thanks for this insight. I dodn't know drag n drop works for this. The commandline it resulted in is : "env BAMF_DESKTOP_FILE_HINT=/var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/telegram-sergiusens_telegram.desktop /snap/bin/telegram-sergiusens.telegram %U"
[06:38] <OerHeks> saves a lot of typing
[06:39] <User39943> I wish to run Ubuntu side by side with Windows 10 (my primary OS). Will things get all screwy with boot loader or w.e?
[06:40] <orlock> User39943: No, should be fine - tried Ubuntu for Windows?
[06:40] <OerHeks> User39943, it can be done, with/without UEFI
[06:41] <pantato> User39943: it should work. But I much prefer to have separate HDs for multiple OS installs
[06:41] <pantato> 1 ssd for winblows, 1 for ubuntu
[06:41] <User39943> I'm using an Ultrabook, so sadly don't have the option
[06:42] <pantato> i honestly wouldn't do it
[06:42] <pantato> what are you gonna use ubuntu for?
[06:42] <User39943> orlock: Did you mean run it as a Virtual machine?
[06:42] <pantato> User39943: no, there is a version of ubuntu that can be installed inside of windows 10 now
[06:42] <User39943> programming, etc
[06:43] <pantato> User39943: if you're gonna use it for that, I would just use a VM
[06:43] <OerHeks> !ubuwin
[06:43] <pantato> or a VPS even should be fine if you're not making GUI stuff
[06:43] <OerHeks> beta and not reliable yet
[06:43] <pantato> I get a really awesome/cheap VPS through nfoservers.com
[06:43] <pantato> i love it
[06:44] <OerHeks> User39943, let windows make the free space and you'll be fine
[06:44] <pantato> OerHeks: I've had the most success by installing windows first, then booting off the ubuntu usb stick, then choosing the "install alongside windows" option
[06:45] <pantato> which resizes the partition inside of that setup
[06:46] <pantato> User39943: have you tried VirtualBox?
[06:47] <User39943> To be honest... I want to give Linux a fair chance to possibly be my new primary OS. So I'm thinking dual booting is probably the way to go. I don't like experiencing performance issues VM's are prone to (or well in my experience... probably crappy CPU's)
[06:48] <pantato> User39943: does your machine have an SSD or an HDD?
[06:48] <User39943> SSD
[06:48] <pantato> other than programming, what do you use your machine for?
[06:48] <gebruiker> is the new flash already available? source: source: http://www.zdnet.com/article/adobe-reanimates-npapi-flash-for-linux-after-4-year-stasis/
[06:49] <pantato> User39943
[06:49] <User39943> browsing internet, videos, word processing
[06:49] <User39943> typical things
[06:50] <pantato> well if you are a super user of micrsoft office nothing can really replace that as of yet
[06:51] <User39943> yeah... abiword just isn't the same
[06:51] <pantato> as far as the other things i can say with confidence ubuntu is perfectly fine if not better
[06:51] <pantato> what sort of things are you wanting to program?
[06:52] <Kartagis> does anyone remember my videos fps issue?
[06:53] <User39943> some phone apps, and some pointless University code assignments
[06:53] <morriswaker> Anyone seen that new Denial film by Becker Street?
[06:54] <User39943> languages - C++, C#, python, lisp, java
[06:54] <User39943> oh and C
[06:54] <pantato> User39943: id say go ahead and dual boot. Bear in mind youll have to do a total fresh install of windows if you want things back to normal once you do
[06:55] <pantato> also i recommenr 14.04 instead of 16.04
[06:55] <pantato> recommend*
[06:56] <OerHeks> if he has a recent netbook, 16.04 lts
[06:56] <pantato> 14.04 forever
[06:56] <User39943> Is 16.04 kind of.... problematic
[06:57] <OerHeks> no.
[06:58] <pantato> i dunno it boots up slower and there are less software guides for it
[06:58] <Kartagis> User39943: it's usually a case of PEBKAC
[06:58] <User39943> oic
[06:58] <pantato> I'm just biased because 14.04 has been so good to me :p
[06:59] <pantato> oh also whatever version you pick stick with it. Ubuntu does not do well with distro upgrades.   Will this only happen should I chose to remove Ubuntu?
[07:02] <OerHeks> User39943, do not use the wubi installer, use a flashdrive
[07:02] <gebruiker> try ubuntu in virtualbox
[07:04] <User39943> This has me concerned lol "Bear in mind youll have to do a total fresh install of windows if you want things back to normal once you do"
[07:04] <pantato> User39943: make your flash drive with a windows program called Rufus. It is incredibly reliable
[07:04] <Ben64> User39943: that's completely wrong
[07:04] <orlock> User39943: nah, not really
[07:04] <OerHeks> he is trolling
[07:04] <pantato> Im judt giving advice based on my experience im not trolling
[07:04] <Ben64> User39943: the channel ##windows can advise you on how to re-do the MBR so windows will boot, then you can go ahead and delete the ubuntu partitions
[07:05] <orlock> OerHeks: yeah, ubuntu the OS and this channel are both so noob friendly there's a lot of room for trolls to spout incorrect-but-plausible crap at unsuspecting people
[07:05] <pantato> im not trolling jfc
[07:05] <User39943> Okay, so things only become problematic for Windows if i chose to remove Ubuntu?
[07:05] <OerHeks> User39943, it does not.
[07:05] <Ben64> User39943: not if you do it the way i just said
[07:06] <User39943> OIC
[07:06] <gebruiker> User39943, I had to reinstall my entire computer
[07:06] <User39943> thanks
[07:06] <pantato> User39943: if theres one piece of advice i am absolutely 100% sure on is to make your ubuntu flash drive with a program called rufus. You cannot go wrong with that one
[07:07] <User39943> I've used it before as well
[07:07] <gebruiker> but yeah go ahead it will be fun
[07:07] <pantato> cool
[07:07] <wilsonchloe582> hi
[07:09] <User39943> Oh! Is swapping files between the OS's on same SSD easy these days?
[07:09] <User39943> Or do I need to create a separate partition for that?
[07:09] <ducasse> User39943: linux can read/write just about anything.
[07:10] <gebruiker> User39943, is linux more secure than windows?
[07:10] <OerHeks> ubuntu can read/write ntfs/exfat fine, and there is a windows driver for ext4 .. not used myself.
[07:11] <wilsonchloe582> hey i may sound like a newb here but how do i use wireshark on ubuntu 16.04 ive looked online and on youtube and i cant get a straight foward answer
[07:11] <ducasse> wilsonchloe582: use for what?
[07:11] <Ben64> wilsonchloe582: sudo apt-get install wireshark; wireshark
[07:12] <wilsonchloe582> no not how to install it like how to grab ppls ip and see where they are
[07:12] <Ben64> what does that mean
[07:12] <User39943> don't you need specific hardware
[07:12] <wilsonchloe582> i know how to install stuff lol
[07:12] <Ben64> wireshark just captures packets
[07:12] <User39943> not all wireless adapters can do... special... stuff
[07:13] <User39943> oh
[07:13] <wilsonchloe582> @user39943 what do u mean
[07:13] <Ben64> wilsonchloe582: best if you explain in detail what you're trying to do, and what is happening that you don't expect
[07:14] <wilsonchloe582> ok so lets say im on skype or omegle i want to grab there ip and freak them out by telling them ik where they live lol
[07:14] <hateball> Sounds more like ##networking imo
[07:15] <wilsonchloe582> if possible can i do the same from termanil
[07:15] <User39943> wilsonchloe582: what I was referring to was something called monitor mode (though the term escaped me for a moment)
[07:16] <wilsonchloe582> user39943 oh lol
[07:18] <User39943> Time to install Ubuntu... Hopefully all goes well. Thanks for the help
[07:19] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> Funny song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxNgnQ9m30
[07:21] <pantato> OerHeks: I did a distro upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 and it was a total disaster. Errors galore. I googled some of the issues and a lot of people on the forums advised against doing distro upgrades.
[07:22] <pantato> Maybe there's some hoops to jump through, some fixes to apply here and there,
[07:22] <wilsonchloe582> how can i change the color of my name on here is it /color then i just input the color of choice
[07:23] <igoryonya> hello, I do-release-upgrade. It updated package list. Started calculating of changes. Then, it stops, saying: cannot compute system update. Discovered unresolvable problem. Then it aborts upgrading and returns everything to the original state.
[07:23] <igoryonya> It doesn't show details about which packages caused the update abortion
[07:24] <ducasse> pantato: as long as you don't use a hundred ppas distro upgrades work just fine.
[07:24] <igoryonya> Is there a way to find out, what it stumbles upon, so I will @ least know, what to remove before trying to upgrade again?
[07:25] <ducasse> igoryonya: use ppa-purge to get rid of ppa packages
[07:26] <igoryonya> but I need to know, which ppa packages to remove, How to find out which ppa packages are the stumbling block in my case?
[07:27] <ducasse> igoryonya: just remove all of them, ppas are problematic for distro upgrades.
[07:28] <gebruiker> dont use ppa s
[07:28] <jhaji> Hi!!
[07:29] <jhaji> I wan't to keep fixed ip for in-coming requset but rotate ip for sending request
[07:29] <igoryonya> ducasse: I don't want to remove all of them. I need to remove only the necessary ones, since some packages don't exist in new versions of Ubuntu, that I need and I won't be able to reinstall them later.
[07:30] <ducasse> igoryonya: and you don't think they might be causing the problem?
[07:31] <wilsonchloe582> hi
[07:32] <igoryonya> ducasse: I've upgraded many times before with my ppa's enabled and still have packages installed from previous distro, that don't exist in current distro and nothing similar. and everything works fine.
[07:33] <igoryonya> I ment nothing similar, that I could replace the old package with.
[07:35] <ducasse> igoryonya: that may be, but the general advice is that ppas should be removed before upgrades. that's the only supported way.
[07:36] <ducasse> igoryonya: as long as the packages don't cause conflicts, you can install them again later also.
[07:37] <igoryonya> I don't mind to remove, but I would prefer to just remove only the necessary problemmatic packages, not all of them. I need to figure out a way, what package upgrade gets stumbled upon, so I would remove only that, problemmatic package.
[07:39] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> SWASTIKA
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[07:39] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> SWASTIKA
[07:41] <wilsonchloe582> hi
[07:42] <wilsonchloe582> whats up
[07:42] <wilsonchloe582> ?
[07:42] <mexicantoaster> nothing
[07:42] <mexicantoaster> you?
[07:42] <wilsonchloe582> same how can i change my names color on here
[07:43] <mexicantoaster> I don't know, probably depends on the program you are using
[07:43] <d0d50fe2e21a57c8> Hello
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[07:43] <wilsonchloe582> im useing hexchat
[07:43] <igoryonya> gebruiker: I would not use ppas, if everything, I need was in the official repo. Some times, it happens, when some package appears in the official repo.  Can't get it. Basically, I am intrested in the answer which one will really turn off my server - which one is the same as that power off click we do on Ubuntu Desktop?
[08:01] <mexicantoaster> I think I messed up my ubuntu :(
[08:01] <Naeil> demahum, for me when I need to shutdown one of the nodes in my cluster manually I type shutdown -h now
[08:01] <Naeil> follow this link, it is basics but a useful tips : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-shutdown-linux/
[08:02] <pantato> mexicantoaster: what's up?
[08:03] <mexicantoaster> I was trying to get steam to work my video card, ended up manually installing the radeon drivers which did not work and I somehow got it working but I'm worried I really messed something up
[08:04] <pantato> mexicantoaster: i dont follow. What makes you think you messed something up?
[08:06] <trailtron> Has anyone got any idea on how to get sound working in Epiphany browser in Lubuntu other than 'Lol use firefox'
[08:06] <mexicantoaster> sorry, I'm getting this error "grep: symbol looup error: grep: undefined symbol: pcre_jit_stack_alloc" multiple times
[08:07] <pantato> mexicantoaster: when you do what?
[08:07] <Naeil> trailtron, /j #lubuntu #lubuntu-devel
[08:07] <mexicantoaster> when I run steam from the console
[08:08] <trailtron> #join gnome
[08:08] <pantato> mexicantoaster: http://askubuntu.com/questions/761176/steam-doesnt-start-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04
[08:08] <pantato> try that?
[08:08] <david89> On a ubuntu spin/derivative, can the ubuntu-sdk ppa be added and used to istall the sdk?
[08:09] <pantato> https://www.google.com/search?q=grep%3A+symbol+looup+error%3A+grep%3A+undefined+symbol%3A+pcre_jit_stack_alloc&oq=grep%3A+symbol+looup+error%3A+grep%3A+undefined+symbol%3A+pcre_jit_stack_alloc&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.501223j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[08:09] <mexicantoaster> pantato: thanks I will try, it's just become a huge headache getting steam to work
[08:11] <proxx_> mexicantoaster ,well i hate to say this but when u having working fx its pretty straight forward
[08:12] <mexicantoaster> that first link worked! finally.
[08:12] <mexicantoaster> proxx_: what do you mean? the graphics? many other people had similar issues with the video I have online
[08:13] <mexicantoaster> video card*
[08:13] <proxx_> mexicantoaster I admit it can be a pain :P
[08:14] <proxx_> worst part is that nvidia sucks about as much these days , poor linux ppl
[08:14] <mexicantoaster> really? I was thinking I should have bought an nvidia card insteal of a radeon
[08:15] <mexicantoaster> oh wait nvm, I can't read
[08:15] <proxx_> No nvidia is really being a pain the last several years, they screwed over the community
[08:15] <proxx_> ill never buy one again , and yes on-topic :P
[08:17] <demahum> Naeil: Thanks a lot. That command works for me as well. However, I am more interested in fully understanding what is the difference and what happens behind each of them. But thanks of course. :)
[08:18] <atanasio> jjj
[08:18] <atanasio> hijos de puta
[08:23] <HelloEarth> hello
[08:23] <HelloEarth> someone with ELK (Elasticsearch, logstash and kibana) syslog system experience????????
[08:24] <blut> Which pam implementation does Ubuntu 16.04 use?
[08:24] <Naeil> Ask your question HelloEarth and if there is anyone who could help, he/she will spoke up :)
[08:25] <HelloEarth> no questions Naeil
[08:25] <HelloEarth> only opinions
[08:25] <HelloEarth> and recomendations
[08:25] <HelloEarth> thks
[08:25] <de-facto> waaa Xorg is maxing out my hdd and i cant shit xenial down
[08:26] <Naeil> I work daily with those services and I am using docker
[08:26] <thekrynn> is it common for NFS to cause high load averages with minimal cpu?
[08:26] <HelloEarth> are you using ELK?
[08:26] <HelloEarth> i want to monitor all my pfsenses firewalls
[08:27] <HelloEarth> not monitor sorry, only syslog
[08:28] <Naeil> I would recommend this tutorial HelloEarth https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-centralize-logs-with-rsyslog-logstash-and-elasticsearch-on-ubuntu-14-04
[08:29] <de-facto> that was nasty, not even sysrq was working for shutting down
[08:30] <Naeil> demahum, you welcome, sorry I didn't saw your message. the shutdown command have extra arguments while poweroff doesn't, for example we can use shutdown to reboot the system with -r argument while we can't with poweroff
[08:31] <HelloEarth> Thanks Naeil
[08:34] <seo4> asfsdf
[08:34] <seo4> hello
[08:34] <robotdevil> mavis beacon
[08:35] <demahum> Naeil: ok ok - thanks :)
[08:41] <juanonymous> what is a trf compression?
[08:41] <Jakey3> would this cron work 40 9 * * * /sbin/xset dpms force off
[08:42] <juanonymous> and how do i install this on my system?
[08:42] <sun_lchao> hello 米那桑
[08:44] <juanonymous> +trg
[08:44] <juanonymous> +trf
[08:44] <juanonymous> .+trf
[08:46] <sun_lchao> HELLO
[08:46] <robotdevil> sasung printer center freezes consistently....
[08:46] <robotdevil> samsung*
[08:47] <sun_lchao> 米那桑 what are you doing？
[08:50] <sun_lchao> HI
[08:51] <sun_lchao> HI
[08:51] <sun_lchao> HI
[08:53] <akik> !cn
[08:53] <akik> sun_lchao: this channel is for ubuntu linux support
[08:53] <sun_lchao> !cn
[08:57] <lion4407> lol
[09:00] <xtreamwayz> I've got my main drive and a second mounted data drive. What would be the best strategy these days to backup my system in such a way that I can restore it from Ubuntu live.
[09:02] <xtreamwayz> Or even better, restore only parts of it if I messed up something.
[09:06] <kruzin> Hi there, I need help with setting up a crontab to run at startup - any help?
[09:07] <Skyrider> Ello all.. Quick Q before I'll get back on this channel using my irc bouncer. If I create a new linux user, it appears to be created with /bin/sh as shell.
[09:07] <Skyrider> What's the major difference between /bin/bash and /bin/sh?
[09:07] <proxx_> kruzin just ask
[09:07] <Skyrider> I've looked over the internet for it, but I can't find any answer regarding that it doesn't matter which one of the 2 you pick for the user.
[09:07] <Skyrider> It's a sudo user btw.
[09:07] <Jakey3> where do i need to put a script if i want to run a cron job on it?
[09:08] <kruzin> proxx_: Well, I'm running a python script in the crontab. How do I make sure it runs on reboot too?
[09:09] <proxx_> kruzin you can use shutdown scripts for that, just call the same script iirc there is no way of being sure cron does its thing before shutdown etc unless you put a timeout on the shutdowns
[09:10] <k1l> Skyrider: are you sure about /bin/sh? how did you create those?
[09:11] <kruzin> proxx_: hmm.. if I run it the crontab from root - will it keep running? my script is written to loop.
[09:11] <Skyrider> webmin (create user) auto applied bin/sh
[09:11] <proxx_> kruzin well in that case why would you need a cron ?
[09:12] <k1l> Skyrider: oh, webmin. well that is known to make a mess of your system
[09:12] <proxx_> kruzin if you are saying it runs on an infinite loop i suggest you just make a sort of daemon out of it that is started post boot
[09:12] <kruzin> proxx_: I run the script which sleeps for 30 seconds and starts again in a loop. The problem is, when I restart the machine, I want it to auto-run
[09:12] <Skyrider> Really? :p never experienced that.
[09:12] <Skyrider> Could be that I never have noticed.
[09:12] <kruzin> proxx_: how could I do that?
[09:13] <Skyrider> What do you use then for a control panel? (if you use any)
[09:13] <k1l> !webmin | Skyrider
[09:13] <Skyrider> Ouch
[09:13] <Skyrider> That sucks
[09:13] <proxx_> kruzin depends on how clean it has to be , you could just make a post boot script which is hackish but easy
[09:14] <Skyrider> Any recommendations for a free CP?
[09:14] <k1l> Skyrider: i dont use a control panel. i manage my systems manually.
[09:14] <kruzin> proxx_: Hmm.. let me give it a shot
[09:14] <Skyrider> Alrighty.
[09:14] <Skyrider> Thanks :)
[09:16] <proxx_> @kruzin you could for testing purp redirect its output to another file , easier to see if its running n stuff
[09:16] <kruzin> proxx_: you mean script >> output.file or something?
[09:17] <proxx_> kruzin yes
[09:17] <kruzin> proxx_: sure, I'll give it a try right away
[09:17] <proxx_> kruzin depending on which version you are but this would be the better cleaner way https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-automatically-execute-shell-script-at-startup-boot-on-systemd-linux
[09:18] <kruzin> proxx_: checking
[09:28] <z8z> how to access my ubuntu desktop using some remote desktop system?
[09:30] <proxx_> z8z look up X11 forwarding over SSH
[09:31] <z8z> proxx_: isnt that incredibly slow?
[09:32] <lotuscomputers> z8z: be carefull with remote desktops for security reasons
[09:33] <proxx_> z8z , depends or your line , but who needs a gui really ?
[09:33] <OerHeks> if you want to play arcade games remote, yes.
[09:34] <z8z> proxx_: the people who needs to use and app with a gui in remote :D
[09:34] <lotuscomputers> z8z: those people get mostly system compromized also
[09:35] <proxx_> z8z you can passthrough a single app instead of the whole desktop
[09:35] <proxx_> z8z Basically start the gui remotely with the display running local
[09:36] <z8z> lotuscomputers: but some of them don't give a %£)" about being compromized as they are not running any classified stuff
[09:36] <proxx_> z8z I do that all the time with virt-manager
[09:36] <proxx_> Hes just scared and doesnt know how to protect himself ,
[09:37] <lotuscomputers> lol
[09:38] <z8z> proxx_: thanks i know how to do that but i was searching for something fast and extremely insecure to work comfortable :D
[09:38] <proxx_> vnc
[09:38] <proxx_> nomachine is also very awesome
[09:39] <th0r> z8z, (nice job of answering the questoin guys). There are several ways to access a gui remotely. VNC is popular. I have done some research with a friend in europe and found ssh X-forwarding was pretty good since it only sends the open window.
[09:39] <z8z> ye vnc i couldn't figure how to have applications top bar to be shown :D
[09:39] <th0r> z8z, there was also a package called NX that I doubt the folks at ubuntu would allow to be installed, but it was faster than anythnig except ssh/X
[09:39] <ThePentester> problem with creating users
[09:40] <ThePentester> i know this sound strange but this what happens
[09:40] <proxx_> z8z look into guacamole, just run it in a webbrowser (html5)
[09:40] <k1l> ThePentester: what ubuntu is it exactly?
[09:40] <ThePentester>  i can't create users except with the name "test"
[09:40] <proxx_> z8z awesome performance
[09:41] <ThePentester> k1l , actually i'm using debian
[09:41] <k1l> ThePentester: then please ask in #debian
[09:41] <ThePentester> k1l i can't send anything there i don't know why
[09:41] <th0r> z8z, if you just need a program, and not the whole desktop, ssh and X-forwarding is probably the way to go
[09:41] <ThePentester> ubuntu is based on debian ?!
[09:41] <k1l> ThePentester: i guess its because you are running as root, which is bad.
[09:41] <lotuscomputers> !debian | ThePentester
[09:41] <ThePentester> i told you i can't create users
[09:42] <k1l> ThePentester: then ask in ##linux
[09:42] <th0r> z8z, you can do it on windows also (or could...don't know about win8 or win10) using a package called xming
[09:42] <z8z> proxx_: guacamole :|
[09:42] <ppf> ThePentester: you need to register and identify with nickserv for ##debian
[09:42] <ThePentester> ppf already done it
[09:43] <proxx_> z8z I had a test setup with that and it works beyond anything i expected
[09:44] <z8z> th0r: i tried ssh and X but was really slow... (i mean insane slow)
[09:44] <morf> hello
[09:44] <proxx_> You can set the compression higher and the encryption lower
[09:44] <ppf> ThePentester: you identified as well?
[09:44] <proxx_> really helps perf
[09:44] <Jakey3> why does this cron job not work http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23250393/
[09:44] <fpghost84> Could someone help with my vpn connection on buntu 16? This http://superuser.com/questions/1129402/vpn-issues-with-ubuntu-16-04 has a full briefing of my configs and log outputs, but basically the openvpn connects seemingly successfully, but all requests,pings etc just timeout
[09:45] <ThePentester> ppf yes
[09:45] <ThePentester> any help ?
[09:45] <morf> silly question: how can i change memcached startup script (i need to create /var/run/memcached/ directory) ... i have tried to edit /etc/init.d/memcached but it hasn't have any effect... didn't find the right thing to edit i guess, any advice pls? :)
[09:46] <z8z> fpghost84: depends on what is your goal i might have a easier solution
[09:46] <z8z> s/a/an
[09:46] <ThePentester> ppf ?
[09:46] <fpghost84> z8z: what do you suggest?
[09:46] <z8z> fpghost84: what do you have to do? :D
[09:47] <fpghost84> z8z: I need to connect to my vpn and access the internet
[09:47] <ppf> yeah no idea. if you identified with nickserv you should be able to talk in #debian
[09:47] <z8z> fpghost84: use the vpn just as a proxy?
[09:47] <ThePentester> ppf any help with this problem ?
[09:47] <fpghost84> z8z: unfortunately that won't work for me
[09:47] <ppf> on the other hand i don't know whether this ircing as root user is a thing
[09:47] <morf> /5/5
[09:48] <ppf> ThePentester: if it's a debian problem, ask over there
[09:48] <Skyrider> There we go
[09:48] <ThePentester> when i create users with other names i can't login display doesn't work
[09:48] <fpghost84> this was working just fine on ubuntu 14, and after upgrade to 16 stopped
[09:48] <ppf> "display doesn't work"?
[09:48] <fpghost84> I need it for work, so it's a real issue
[09:48] <Ben64> Jakey3: surely there's a better way to do whatever it is you're trying to do there
[09:48] <ThePentester> yeah i type username the password and then it's back and keep asking
[09:49] <ThePentester> *and
[09:49] <Jakey3> Ben64, ok but in this case why is my cron job not working
[09:49] <Ben64> it is working
[09:49] <Jakey3> not for me
[09:49] <z8z> fpghost84: use as a proxy? can you reply to my qyestions? :D
[09:49] <Jakey3> my screen doesnt turn off
[09:50] <fpghost84> z8z: I did, I said proxy won't work for me
[09:50] <ppf> Jakey3: who's crontab is that in?
[09:50] <k1l> ThePentester: as already explained: we cant focus on different distributions. ask the #debian ops why you are muted /banned there. or try ##linux
[09:50] <Pointblank_1> Hi and good day to all of you. Which syntax would you use to replace a line in one file (identified by some string, or may be by line number) by some line from another file? Example: file1.txt contains 2 rows: 1. Temperature is: 2. 35 °C  #change_me,  file2.txt contains 3 rows: 1. Current data 2. Temperature is: 3. 36 °C  #change_me. Glad for any input if you know. :)
[09:50] <Ben64> Jakey3: it's set to only run the script at 10:18am
[09:50] <fpghost84> z8z: I need this for work, and must have a VPN connection
[09:50] <Jakey3> Ben64, yes i tested at 10.18 nothing happended
[09:50] <z8z> fpghost84: i mean you need to use this vps as a proxy? to use different IP on the internet?
[09:50] <Ben64> then the script is bad
[09:50] <fpghost84> z8z: It all worked fine on ubuntu 14, so it must be something simple
[09:51] <ppf> *whose
[09:51] <Ben64> Jakey3: really, what you're doing doesn't make sense. why turn the screen off at 10:18am
[09:51] <Jakey3> ppf, what do youmean
[09:51] <Ben64> just set the screen to turn off after x minutes
[09:51] <ppf> Jakey3: who is running this script
[09:51] <ppf> userwise
[09:51] <Jakey3> i was testing this morning at 10.18
[09:51] <fpghost84> z8z: no, I want VPN. For my private airvpn VPN I want vpn for enhanced security that proxy doesn't offer, and for work I need VPN to access the internal network
[09:51] <Jakey3> it was an example
[09:51] <Jakey3> but my screen didnt switch off
[09:52] <Ben64> Jakey3: just set the screen to turn off after x minutes
[09:52] <ppf> Jakey3: essentially, xset needs to know the X it is talking to
[09:52] <Jakey3> ok so how do i set who it talks to
[09:53] <ppf> Ben64: why try to convince him that his problem is wrong instead of solving it?
[09:53] <ppf> Jakey3: -display
[09:53] <Ben64> ppf: because it is wrong
[09:53] <ppf> Ben64: how do you know?
[09:53] <Jakey3> ppf,  do you mind being explicit how do i add -display to my script
[09:53] <ppf> Jakey3: it's usually something like -display :0
[09:53] <Jakey3> ok
[09:53] <Ben64> it doesn't make any sense to randomly turn the screen off at a certain time/times regardless of use
[09:54] <Jakey3> it goes that the begining of the shell script
[09:54] <ppf> if it is at a given time, it kinda explicitely isn't random
[09:54] <ppf> Jakey3: no, it's an xset argument: xset -display :0 ...
[09:54] <z8z> fpghost84: i don't clearly understand what you need then.. if configure the vps server at work or just connect to the work vpn
[09:54] <z8z> s/vps/vpn
[09:55] <fpghost84> z8z: I'm not sure what bit you're not understanding. I connect to the vpn, yet the requests to websites etc fail and timeout. I need some help figuring out why
[09:55] <Jakey3> ppf,  what is weird is if i run it with my user with 'display ...' it works
[09:56] <ppf> Jakey3: in a live session, X is identified via the DISPLAY environment variable
[09:56] <Jakey3> ppf, ah ok thanks
[09:56] <ppf> fpghost84: your routing table looks suspicous
[09:56] <fpghost84> ppf: how so?
[09:57] <ppf> i'm assuming <IP_ADDRESS> is your work gateway?
[09:57] <z8z> fpghost84: ok then... you are just connecting as a client.... then i'm not sure about how to help you with this issue
[09:57] <ppf> all your routes go through your work vpn
[09:58] <ppf> is that intentional?
[09:58] <fpghost84> ppf: so this is all for an AirVPN which also fails
[09:58] <fpghost84> I basically just used the ovpn file AirVPN generates
[09:58] <ppf> can you ping anything on the vpn network
[09:59] <fpghost84> you mean another address like <IP_ADDRESS> say?
[09:59] <ppf> yes
[09:59] <fpghost84> I'd have to connect to VPN and try, but it will kill my internet and IRC
[10:00] <fpghost84> one moment
[10:02] <ppf> fpghost84: maybe also try multiple machines
[10:02] <ppf> in case the don't do icmp
[10:03] <Jakey3> ppf, can my script screen.sh reside in my home folder
[10:03] <Jakey3> ?
[10:04] <ppf> Jakey3: sure
[10:04] <fpghost84> ppf: no I couldn't
[10:04] <ppf> any machine? or just the one?
[10:04] <Jakey3> so i have the cron job set to 6 11 * * * /home/c1/screen.sh
[10:05] <fpghost84> ppf: I just tried <IP_ADDRESS> I don't know if that's a valid machine though, I mean this is airvpn
[10:05] <fpghost84> I don't know anthing about their network
[10:05] <Jakey3> ppf, doesnt seem to work
[10:05] <Ben64> Jakey3: set it to * * * * *
[10:05] <ppf> Jakey3: no don't do that
[10:05] <Jakey3> lol im not reatard
[10:06] <Jakey3> *restard
[10:06] <Ben64> yes do do that, then you can test it every minute instead of keep editing and waiting
[10:06] <Jakey3> but i cant type :D
[10:07] <ppf> i need to go grab some food
[10:07] <Sevet> jakey3: it might run with a different environment, eg a different PATH, that makes the script fail when it works ok at your prompt
[10:08] <Sevet> jakey3: if there're errors running it you'll get an email (which might be in your mailbox file, you can avoid that by setting MAILTO in the crontab). you could also check syslog to verify cron is running it.
[10:08] <Jakey3> Sevet, ok thanks
[10:12] <Aizen> Hello
[10:12] <Aizen> can any1 help me with SSO ?
[10:12] <Azrael84> ppf: fpghost here
[10:12] <Aizen> i have went through multiple links
[10:12] <Azrael84> ppf: weird i changed use lzo compression and it all works!
[10:12] <Azrael84> ppf: I don't understand this at all
[10:12] <Aizen> but could not get relevant answer
[10:12] <Aizen> can some body help me ?
[10:13] <Ben64> !details | Aizen
[10:13] <stevenm> hey is it normal on the new 16.04 - for Ctrl+Alt+F1 to have stopped working?
[10:14] <Aizen> I am using UBuntu 14.04 as my server.. where we are trying to configure ldap using sso for our web application
[10:15] <Aizen> i have installed ldap successfully on ubuntu
[10:15] <Aizen> but sso .. i am not understanding how to install it
[10:15] <Aizen> should it be configured using any 3rd party tool or should be directly installed as that of LDAP
[10:16] <Aizen> And also our web apllication is deployed using tomcat8
[10:16] <Aizen> application*
[10:18] <Gourlay> I have a second screen Samsung TV and I connect i to HDMI, how do I change sceen LCD brightness on it?
[10:19] <Aizen> Any1 der?
[10:19] <shadyz> Yea
[10:19] <bazhang> patience Aizen
[10:19] <Aizen> sorry i thought my screen lagged ? so,
[10:19] <upgradingto1604> hello there. I'm trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04. I'm in the middle of the upgrade, but it is getting stuck; the "terminal" in the upgrade window just shows a "[More]" writing (and I can't resize that window to show what's going on). I guess dpkg-reconfigure is asking me some question that I can't see. is there some workaround to make it proceed?
[10:20] <proxx_> Gourlay , on the tv itself ? , in case of nvidia or ati you can do that from the control center
[10:20] <Guest71576> hi
[10:20] <anup> hi
[10:20] <Gourlay> I have an Nvidia card, and have computer to TV with HDMI
[10:21] <Gourlay> will try Nvidia card, does this work, by the way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/149054/how-to-change-lcd-brightness-from-command-line-or-via-script?
[10:23] <Guest97327> oye teri
[10:25] <shadyz> Most of the things can be reconfigured in the command line...like cpu..to gpu
[10:25] <jeno> how would i get a shell script to start on boot?
[10:28] <shadyz> Which programming language is it writting in
[10:31] <Azrael84> ppf: On my work vpn, strange things are happening. I can ssh and ping the IP of a node on the network, but if I use the hostname (in the browser or ping) it timesout
[10:32] <Azrael84> ppf: this is despite the fact that dig <hostname> returns the correct IP
[10:34] <Jakey3> tested my crons they work for another test script for this one https://paste.ubuntu.com/23250585/ no joy
[10:35] <Guest_5190> sdfsadf
[10:35] <shadyz> Well seem most of us having unata
[10:36] <shadyz> #ustable network
[10:37] <Ben64> Jakey3: does the script work if you run it from ssh login
[10:37] <Jakey3> Ben64, didnt try why would it make a difference?
[10:38] <John[Lisbeth]> Does ubuntu come with the dc command line utility?
[10:38] <Ben64> Jakey3: yep
[10:39] <shadyz> What difference does it make
[10:40] <fpghost84> I'm having a strange issue now on VPN. I can ping/ssh/browse to an IP on the network, but trying to do the same with the hostname fails. This suggests DNS issue, but nslookup and dig of hostname works
[10:41] <shadyz> Fpghost84: try reconfiguring the Dns again
[10:41] <usuario> z
[10:42] <fpghost84> shadyz: I purged resolvconf and reinstalled
[10:42] <fpghost84> rebooted
[10:42] <fpghost84> no luck
[10:42] <fpghost84> not sure if that's what you mean...
[10:43] <Seveas> fpghost84: perl -E 'say gethostbyname "yourhostnamehere"'
[10:43] <shadyz> Only if u are in charge or use wireshark to locate the problem
[10:43] <shadyz> Naaa rebooting does not change anything
[10:44] <fpghost84> Seveas: that returned blank
[10:44] <Jakey3> thats the error i get from syslog
[10:44] <Jakey3> Sep 29 11:44:01 cc CRON[6102]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[10:45] <shadyz> :-|
[10:46] <fpghost84> Seveas: on the vpn the resolv.conf looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23250622/
[10:47] <fpghost84> where evo.local is the work internal network
[10:49] <Seveas> ah, .local
[10:49] <Seveas> don't name your network .local, it's reserved for avahi/bonjour
[10:50] <Seveas> workaround: remove all traces of avahi/mdns from your computer
[10:51] <Seveas> specifically, nss-mdns. That's the thing that causes gethostbyname to fail while dns works, as it knows it should not do dns queries for .local, only avahi/mdns queries
[10:55] <Kartagis> if anyone remembers my videos fps issue, it was fixed with a clean install of 16.04
[10:56] <shadyz> Is it jus now
[10:58] <proxx_> I used a sledgehammer to kill an ant , its dead though
[11:00] <Jakey3> Ben64, Seveas, ppf the reason was because xserver is run by a different user and im trying to run as root
[11:01] <Jakey3> im not clear how to run that command as the user as i need to do other things with root privlage within the script?
[11:02] <proxx_> Jakey3 well you could use command exceptions for sudo, nopasswd
[11:04] <proxx_> Jakey3 myusername ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /my/damn/binary/is/here , something like that
[11:04] <Jakey3> thanks
[11:04] <Jakey3> i was thinking of running the specific command as that user
[11:04] <Jakey3> in the script
[11:04] <Jakey3> with su
[11:05] <proxx_> Jakey3 take the most simple , secure and failproof method whatever it is u do
[11:07] <Jakey3> proxx_, ok thanks
[11:07] <ppf> Jakey3: just run the command from that users crontab
[11:08] <Jakey3> ppf, the the script needs to
[11:08] <ppf> also, for fun, you can test if the script actually works by running it in an empty environment
[11:08] <Jakey3> ppf, the the script needs to be run as root
[11:08] <ppf> then run the user command with sudo -u
[11:09] <Jakey3> got it working thanks
[11:10] <proxx_> Jakey3 :)
[11:11] <codepython7771> does someone know of a linux vm i can run that boots up in less than a second?
[11:11] <PCdude> hello all
[11:11] <PCdude> I am trying to connect postfix on a ubuntu 16.04 box to Amazon AWS SES service (SMTP relay)
[11:11] <PCdude> The problem I get is:
[11:11] <proxx_> Yes , TTYlinux @codepython777
[11:11] <proxx_> codepython777 or tinycore/microcore
[11:11] <PCdude> Message rejected: E-mail address is not verified
[11:11] <sakimi> hi
[11:11] <PCdude> and that makes sense, coz it is trying to send it as<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, but that address is not connected to amzon aws
[11:11] <PCdude> I want to connect it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I think it will work
[11:11] <PCdude> where can I set the MAIL FROM that postfix will use
[11:11] <PCdude> ??
[11:12] <PCdude> I tried /etc/postfix/generic with<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>, but did not work at all
[11:12] <codepython7771> proxx_: will any of them compile gcc/python?
[11:12] <sorin-mihai> at some point i tried tu use cuda, but i gave up on it and now i'm trying to remove it, but i keep getting: Failed to stop var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount: Unit var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount not loaded. i can't freaking upgrade any packages because apt fails!
[11:12] <sorin-mihai> s/tu/to
[11:12] <proxx_> codepython777 lol you asked fast not complicated :P not sure but what doesnt run python/gcc
[11:12] <Jakey3> in cron what would this mean 15 18 * * 1,2,5
[11:13] <Jakey3> 18.15 on mon tue and friday?
[11:15] <codepython7771> proxx_: seems like microcore / tinycore were last updated in 2008?
[11:15] <codepython7771> ttylinux = 2013
[11:15] <proxx_> codepython777 Damn im old
[11:15] <codepython7771> anything that is well maintained?
[11:15] <proxx_> codepython777 ah so slitaz ?
[11:15] <proxx_> codepython777 or puppylinux
[11:16] <codepython7771> proxx_: http://mirror1.slitaz.org/iso/rolling/ - which one do i download?
[11:16] <ppf> codepython7771: what will you be needing the VM for?
[11:17] <codepython7771> ppf: run python inside vm - sandbox python code
[11:17] <ppf> why not use a container
[11:17] <codepython7771> ppf: shared kernel?
[11:17] <proxx_> codepython7771 I wouldnt know since its been to long ive used any of it , thats from memory in the cat. tiny fast stuff
[11:18] <ppf> do you need a different kernel for the python code?
[11:18] <codepython7771> ppf: no - security is an issue with shared kernels
[11:19] <ppf> containers give you namespace isolation
[11:20] <proxx_> I would agree that a container or jail would be suitable but depends much on what kinda stuff you r doing
[11:20] <ppf> so all resources are protected between host and containers
[11:20] <proxx_> if it is some future production stuff I would personally rather use a full machine but whatever
[11:22] <ppf> VMs make sense if you need to run different kernels or emulate different hardware. anything beyond that can be done much more lightweight with containers and chroots
[11:31] <proxx_> @ppf I agree
[11:39] <Jakey3> how can i improve this script https://paste.ubuntu.com/23250754/
[11:40] <Jakey3> i want to turn off the screen and then shut down
[11:40] <Jakey3> to turn off the screen i switch to another user
[11:40] <Jakey3> for shutdown i must be root
[11:40] <ppf> Jakey3: now that makes little sense. why turn off the screen and then shut down?
[11:40] <ppf> just shut down
[11:41] <Jakey3> ppf, true
[11:41] <Jakey3> how would i do it any how
[11:41] <Jakey3> i believe because i switch user
[11:42] <Jakey3> im no longer root so i will not shutdown ?
[11:42] <Ben64> put it into root's crontab
[11:42] <Jakey3> it is
[11:42] <Jakey3> the screen turnsoff but doesnt shut down
[11:43] <Ben64> probably needs a "now" at the end
[11:43] <k1l> yep, "now" missing
[11:44] <Jakey3> with the "" included?
[11:44] <k1l> no
[11:44] <ppf> doesn't matter
[11:44] <ppf> also, no
[11:45] <punkoivan> "systemctl poweroff" doesn't required sudo/root
[11:46] <vices> on 16.04 a fresh install I've got an issue with wireless continuously disconnecting every couple minutes.  It doesn't happen on the windows boot so it's not the router
[11:46] <mjayk> Anyone know if there is a kde connect system tray icon for ubuntu
[11:46] <ducasse> punkoivan: shutdown is a symlink to systemctl
[11:46] <vices> the surface tablet ubuntu is installed on doesn't have an ethernet connection so I'm a bit nervous about trying to install wireless firmware drivers without some guidance
[11:48] <vices> should I just run: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree ?
[11:49] <Jakey3> didnt make a difference with now
[11:49] <vices> or sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer ?
[11:49] <ppf> ducasse: not really
[11:49] <usuario> hello?!
[11:50] <ducasse> ppf: ?
[11:50] <usuario> hello?!!!!
[11:50] <ppf> shutdown isn't a symlink to systemctl
[11:50] <ducasse> ppf: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Sep 29 03:40 /sbin/shutdown -> /bin/systemctl
[11:50] <usuario> I NEED HELP!
[11:50] <gebruiker> is the flashpluing-nonfree compatible with firefox?
[11:50] <ppf> ducasse: yeah, my bad
[11:50] <ppf> wrong system :D
[11:50] <proxx_> yes
[11:51] <\9> usuario: ask, then. and drop the caps
[11:51] <k1l> usuario: ask a question, dont use caps
[11:51] <gebruiker> and if so how uptodate is it?
[11:51] <\9> usuario: yelling is rude
[11:51] <gebruiker> usuario, do not use caps
[11:51] <vices> "lspci -n | grep 0280" doesn't return anything.. what should it be giving?
[11:51] <ppf> ducasse: but that's a hack, isn't it? systemctl checks argv[0] to emulate the old shutdown command?
[11:51] <usuario> The numbers, 4 8 15 16 23 42
[11:52] <usuario> You have to write the numbers into the terminal when the countdown its at 4 minutes
[11:52] <ppf> usuario: we don't do peoples homeworks
[11:52] <ducasse> ppf: it just calls systemctl poweroff, i think, if argv[0] is shutdown.
[11:52] <mjayk> usuario: what problem do you have with ubuntu that  you need help with
[11:52] <k1l> usuario: ? this is the ubuntu support channel
[11:54] <captainACE> hello world!
[11:54] <captainACE> how many desktop environments are there in ubuntu?(except mate)
[11:54] <crypto0> hello , how can i read this 71 a4 13 67 65 6f 3a 34 30 2e 36 39 34 34 2c 37 33 2e 39 38 36 36 00 ec 11 ec 11 ec 11 ec 11 ec 11 ec
[11:55] <k1l> captainACE: "a lot". what do you need?
[11:55] <captainACE> crypt0 its hexadecimal i think
[11:55] <usuario> dude, I need a constant, what year is it?
[11:55] <captainACE> k1l i dunno just feel like changing environments
[11:55] <blut> whatever happend to the /etc/cups/client.conf? Why is it deprecated, and what to use instead?
[11:55] <usuario> i need to know it quickly or it will succed agaon
[11:55] <captainACE> need something fresh
[11:55] <usuario> where is walt
[11:56] <k1l> captainACE: unity, gnome-shell, kde, xfce, lxde, tiling WMs...... the list is very long.
[11:56] <Ben64> usuario: you aren't making any sense
[11:56] <captainACE> any personal favourites?
[11:56] <crypto0> captainACE can you read it for me?
[11:56] <captainACE> crytp0 you can use hexadecimal translators online
[11:57] <k1l> captainACE: just test them what suits you best.
[11:57] <ppf> crypto0: it's not text
[11:57] <ppf> captainACE: our personal flavours won't help you pick one
[11:57] <gebruiker> usuario, the numbers are secret informaiton into th8th dimension outside of the time and space continium
[11:57] <usuario><PHONE_NUMBER>01011100101010111001110010010101011100101010111001110010010101011100101010111001110010010101011100101010111001110010010101011100101010111001
[11:57] <ppf> just google that question, there are literally dozens of articles on DE comparisons
[11:58] <crypto0> i used hexadecimal its didnt worked , does it raw bytes?
[11:58] <ducasse> crypto0: what are you trying to accomplish here?
[11:58] <Ben64> crypto0: it's a location in the mountains in southern kyrgyzstan
[11:58] <k1l> crypto0: if you give more context people could try to help
[11:58] <crypto0> i want to read it
[12:00] <vices> interestingly.. while i'm connected to this IRC server my wireless connection isn't dropping
[12:01] <vices> anyone have any ideas why it usually disconnects every few minutes?
[12:01] <ppf> powersaving?
[12:01] <crypto0> ben64 how did you read it?
[12:01] <usuario_> electromagnetic energy vices
[12:02] <vices> -_-;
[12:02] <Ben64> crypto0: google "hex to ascii" then put the latitude and longitude into google maps
[12:02] <vices> i used some 'wireless info' script but it doesn't seem like there are any obvious errors
[12:02] <vices> anyone familiar with reading them?
[12:03] <ducasse> vices: which chipset is this?
[12:03] <ppf> vices: you can turn powersaving of and see if it disconnects you without the irc server
[12:03] <crypto0> ben64 when i convert it h"hex to acsii" i got : q¤geo:40.6944,73.9866ìììììì
[12:04] <vices> another fun problem the wireless has is that instead of dropping the internet, sometimes it does something cute, it lets me do google queries but not connect to the webpages until I reconnect to the wifi network
[12:04] <vices> ducasse, how would I find out?
[12:04] <Ben64> crypto0: yep exactly
[12:04] <vices> ppf how do i turn off powersaving? I didn't see anything in the Power GUI
[12:04] <ducasse> vices: lspci
[12:04] <crypto0> ben64 then google map and what typing on it ?>
[12:04] <k1l> crypto0: i dont think this is an ubuntu issue so better join #ubuntu-offtopic fo that
[12:04] <Ben64> crypto0: 40.6944,73.9866
[12:05] <ppf> sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[12:05] <vices> Intel Haswell-ULT ?
[12:06] <ducasse> vices: the line says 'network controller'
[12:08] <vices> sorry had to reconnect, lspci says it's a Haswell ULT ?
[12:09] <avocado123> Hi, I just connected a PS3 controller with bluetooth to Ubuntu, it is connected now (there was a minor weird thing where on my laptop it says I had to enter a PIN code in my device, but you obviously can't do that for a controller). But now I found out the buttons are not mapped the right way (so X is not actually X but has moved to another place), what to do?
[12:10] <avocado123> I am trying to use it with Steam, maybe that's relevant
[12:10] <vices> ppf sorry I didn't see if you answered about where powersaving is'
[12:11] <ppf> sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[12:11] <vices> ppf wlan0 no device
[12:11] <ppf> yeah, whatever your wifi device name is
[12:12] <ppf> ULT is an ultrabook; so beware that turning wifi powermanagement off isn't very nice for battery life
[12:12] <vices> wlx281878595327  IEEE 802.11abgn <-- is that wlx the wireless name?
[12:13] <ppf> no, check ifconfig
[12:13] <avocado123> Looking into xboxdrv now, might work
[12:13] <vices> ppf it worked though.. now it says power management off ^^;
[12:13] <akik> vices: yes it could be the interface name
[12:14] <ppf> looks like it :)
[12:14] <vices> do you guys think power management might also be responsible for not being able to connect to webpages?
[12:14] <vices> sometimes i can do google searches but cant connect to any other page
[12:15] <vices> i searched google for that problem and the most recent entries were from 2014 and the solutions there, like changing the MTU to 1492, didn't work
[12:19] <frombrowser> anyone please help I can install any software or can't find anysoftware from ubuntu software center
[12:20] <frombrowser> typing sudo apt-get install chrome-browser and getting unable to locate chrome-browser
[12:21] <k1l> frombrowser: chromium is in the ubuntu repos, not chrome
[12:22] <k1l> !info chromium-browser
[12:22] <frombrowser> thanks k1l now chromium-browser started to install
[12:22] <frombrowser> k1l what is name of vlc in ubuntu?
[12:23] <ChetManly> http://askubuntu.com/questions/655827/how-do-i-configure-a-wireless-samsung-printer
[12:23] <proxx_> ugh vlc
[12:23] <k1l> frombrowser: vlc
[12:23] <ChetManly> proxx_: lmfao
[12:24] <frombrowser> thanks, I will try with this
[12:24] <k1l> frombrowser: you can search the repo with "apt search vlc"
[12:24] <proxx_> vlc is for windowz ppl :P
[12:24] <proxx_> we have mplayer, yes ill shut up
[12:24] <ChetManly> k1l: does that replace apt-cache?
[12:24] <frombrowser> k1l ok..
[12:24] <k1l> ChetManly: yes
[12:25] <ChetManly> other is still recognized?
[12:25] <frombrowser> proxx_  thanks I will try mplayer.
[12:26] <k1l> ChetManly: yes.
[12:26] <vices> hmm.. turning off the power managment didn't solve the issue of randomly being unable to access any website besides google
[12:26] <vices> any other ideas?
[12:27] <proxx_> frombrowser , there is a gui fancy thing for mplayer called smplayer
[12:27] <vices> oh, a semi-related issue, I can't install some OS updates from the ubuntu software GUI, the installing bar just hangs.. how can I do it from terminal?
[12:28] <Ben64> proxx_: mplayer2 and mpv are even better than regular old mplayer
[12:29] <frombrowser> proxx_ so mplayer is command line?
[12:29] <vices> sudo apt-get install updates doesnt get anything, but there are some things listed in the GUI that should be installed
[12:29] <proxx_> frombrowser yes and smplayer is a gui wrapper , and listen to this Ben64 dude, im a fossil
[12:31] <Ben64> proxx_: i mean, they're all better than vlc
[12:32] <proxx_> Ben64 I agree , Personally I have very good experience with mplayerish players , especially when u come from windows its amazing to see how well shit can work
[12:32] <proxx_> !lang proxx_
[12:33] <frombrowser> Ben64 if I type "sudo apt-get install mpalyer2" will it install maplayer or mplayer2?
[12:35] <frombrowser> mpplayer is little bit daunty, first find the file from terminal, then type the command to play that file
[12:35] <Ben64> you could set it up so you double click a video and it opens
[12:36] <frombrowser> Ben64 How can I do that?
[12:37] <frombrowser> O
[12:37] <frombrowser> I'm more of window user.
[12:37] <crypto0> how can i decrypt mp4 file?
[12:37] <Ben64> heh, idk. i pretty much never use gui, except for web browsing
[12:37] <Ben64> crypto0: doesn't make sense
[12:38] <crypto0> ben64 can i pm you?
[12:38] <frombrowser> Ben64, haha ok, thanks... I'll try to search on google
[12:38] <ppf> crypto0: is  this a hacking riddle game? this is somewhat the wrong forum for this kind of questions
[12:38] <Ben64> just ask in the channel if it's ubuntu support related, #ubuntu-offtopic if not
[12:38] <ppf> also, you should find the answers yourself ;)
[12:38] <proxx_> frombrowser http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/en/screenshots , this is what the gui for mplayer looks like
[12:38] <crypto0> ppf nope , im practice
[12:38] <proxx_> frombrowser apt-get install smplayer
[12:38] <Ben64> why anyone needs a gui for a video player i'll never know
[12:38] <akik> proxx_: vlc is supported under linux all right
[12:39] <ppf> akik: of course
[12:39] <proxx_> yes it is and it sucks
[12:39] <proxx_> winndooowwzz bloatware
[12:39] <frombrowser> proxx_: it looks pretty good.
[12:39] <akik> proxx_: that's just your personal opinion
[12:39] <proxx_> It is , isnt linux in general
[12:39] <Ben64> vlc has worse video quality
[12:40] <proxx_> bbl have fun ppl
[12:40] <frombrowser> Ben64: yes sometime I also seen, videos play better in other players
[12:44] <crypto0> http://prod_atl_dc3_r49_u23.rogueterminal.com/static/js/utils.js can someone explain me this
[12:45] <Pici> crypto0: looks like javascript. You'd be better off asking in ##javascript than in #ubuntu
[12:45] <Ben64> crypto0: you're in the wrong channel for all your questions
[12:45] <crypto0> oh sry
[12:45] <frombrowser> proxx_: there is smplaer and Enqueue in smplayer which one I chosse?
[12:46] <Ben64> frombrowser: enqueue = add to playlist
[12:47] <frombrowser> Ben64 got it thanks
[12:50] <Ladillero> _=[ Hello, it's my first time using Lubuntu ]=_
[12:50] <Ladillero> _=[ Can anyone help me install a usb network driver ? ]=_
[12:51] <Ladillero> _=[ I already have the .tar.bz2 ]=_
[12:51] <EriC^^> which driver?
[12:52] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ LinuxDriver4Fedora ]=_
[12:53] <k1l> Ladillero: usb network? can you show the output of "lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999" in your terminal?
[12:53] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l I'm sorry, I don't understand ]=_
[12:54] <EriC^^> Ladillero: open a terminal and type lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:54] <k1l> Ladillero: ah ok, you are not using that ubuntu at the moment
[12:54] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok. I'm using Lubuntu. ]=_
[12:54] <EriC^^> it'll give you a link, paste it here
[12:55] <atralheaven> sorry, do you guys know any channel for hosting/domain registering issues?
[12:55] <thiras> atralheaven, maybe #web ?
[12:56] <atralheaven> thiras: that should work! thanks :)
[12:56] <thiras> np
[12:56] <Ladillero> _=[ Ok EriC^^ thanks ]=_
[12:57] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ , k1l this is the driver RT2870 Wireless Lan Linux Driver ]=_
[12:58] <k1l> Ladillero: usually you dont install drivers that way on linux. so we want to see some facts to not install random stuff to your system.
[12:58] <k1l> Ladillero: so please run my command in termina, it will give out a url, please show that url here
[12:59] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l ok, I'm using windows here but on the other computer is the one I'm trying to install the driver. I will do as you say. ]=_
[12:59] <Pici> Ladillero: do you have any internet access on the computer with the problem?
[12:59] <Ladillero> _=[ Pici no, I don't. ]=_
[13:00] <k1l> Ladillero: ok, if that machine doesnt have internet connection that command will not work
[13:00] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l all I have is the tar.bz2 file I downloaded from the manufacturer. ]=_
[13:01] <ppf> Ladillero: i need to ask: what client are you using? or are you manually wrapping all your lines in decorative braces?
[13:01] <afidegnum> [{u'sector': u'693393', u'description': u'<p>New Constructions</p>\r\n', u'_key': u'999167', u'_rev': u'999167', u'_id': u'projects/999167', u'type': u'994055', u'name': u'New Constructions'}]
[13:01] <k1l> Ladillero: again, that is not the usual way to get hardware running. most times you already have the drivers inside the kernel
[13:01] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l I understand. ]=_
[13:01] <Pici> afidegnum: this isn't #python
[13:01] <k1l> Ladillero: so this is the RT2870 wifi chip?
[13:02] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l Yes. http://www.pandawireless.com/Drivers%20%7C%20Panda%20Wireless.html ]=_
[13:02] <EriC^^> Ladillero: did you try to see if a conflicting driver is being loaded?
[13:02] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I apologize but I don't know anything. I'm a beginner. ]=_
[13:03] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok, try sudo rmmod rt2800usb
[13:03] <captainACE> how do i install wallpapers from other DE's into mate is there a way to locate them in file system? im trying to install wallpapers from budgie
[13:03] <afidegnum> Pici: sorry.
[13:03] <k1l> Ladillero: afaik, that chip should run out of the box on ubuntu 16.04
[13:04] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I just tried that on the terminal nad it looks like it's loading. ]=_
[13:04] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l I installed Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu because I read it was faster and lighter since the desktop it's super old. ]=_
[13:05] <EriC^^> Ladillero: what's loading?
[13:05] <frombrowser> proxx_: how can I get full screen on mplayer, whenever I open video, it doesn't stretch to my screen
[13:05] <k1l> Ladillero: lubuntu and ubuntu share the same codebase. so it should be included in lubuntu 16.04 too
[13:06] <Ladillero> _=[ k1l Should I install Lubuntu 16.04 ? ]=_
[13:06] <ronaldsmazitis> I can't open Nautilus
[13:06] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I had to restart, the computer wasn't responding after I typed the password. ]=_
[13:06] <ronaldsmazitis> http://apaste.info/maZ
[13:06] <ronaldsmazitis> getting these errors
[13:07] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok, unplug the device, then try it again
[13:07] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok. Trying that now. ]=_
[13:08] <EriC^^> try also sudo rmmod rt2x00usb and sudo rmmod rt2x00lib
[13:10] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ ERROR: Module rt2x00lib is in use by: rt2800lib ]=_
[13:10] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try sudo modprobe -r rt2x00lib
[13:11] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ FATAL: Module rt2x00lib is in use. ]=_
[13:13] <EriC^^> Ladillero: sudo modprobe -r rt2800lib ?
[13:13] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok I just tried thato one and it worked ]=_
[13:13] <crypto0> what does this mean 727 wew wwelncpa wcvb lihgqevw wq wigligs wew vevvenqwpv.
[13:14] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok try to plug in the usb
[13:14] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I just plugged it in. ]=_
[13:14] <Pici> crypto0: again, that has nothing to do with #ubuntu
[13:14] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try lsmod | grep rt
[13:15] <EriC^^> Ladillero: does it say rt2870sta and maybe other rt2800 stuff?
[13:15] <mcphail> crypto0: you have already been asked to stay on topic. Please do not keep spamming the channel with offtopic chat
[13:15] <ppf> Pici: best ignore him?
[13:15] <ppf> or someone throw him out
[13:15] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Yes it did. ]=_
[13:15] <Pici> ppf: I will be doing that after this last warning :)
[13:15] <ppf> :)
[13:16] <Pici> or k1l will take care of it
[13:16] <EriC^^> Ladillero: is the rt2800usb still in that list?
[13:16] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Yes it is. ]=_
[13:16] <EriC^^> aha
[13:17] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try to unplug the usb again
[13:17] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ I just did. ]=_
[13:18] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[13:18] <Smn> guys, I'm suffering from a minor annoyance. I have playonlinux tied to my dock, but when I launch it it creates another icon instead of using the fixed one that's already there. what's more, the new one uses the default and ignores my icon theme(regardless of what icon theme I might be using)
[13:18] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ done. it worked. ]=_
[13:19] <EriC^^> Ladillero: it will open a text editor, type at a line "blacklist rt2800usb"
[13:20] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Type on top of that text editor or a new terminal ? ]=_
[13:20] <EriC^^> Ladillero: and on another line "blacklist rt2x00lib" and "blacklist rt2x00usb"
[13:20] <EriC^^> Ladillero: in that text editor, put them at the top on new lines
[13:22] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok I just finished. ]=_
[13:23] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok, press ctrl+o to save it
[13:23] <EriC^^> then ctrl+x to exit, then try rebooting the pc
[13:23] <EriC^^> Ladillero: it should only load the rt2870sta driver now without the other rt2800usb that make a conflict together
[13:24] <aus_mal> Hi, I was trying to select the home folder in Unetbootin and with a slip of the finger moved it to another folder! I didn't manage to fix it before a restart, so here I am unable to login. Hope someone can help. Thanks.
[13:24] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok. Should I plug it in while it's restarting ? ]=_
[13:24] <EriC^^> Ladillero: yeah
[13:25] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok... I just restarted the computer but I don't see the network icon or anything new. ]=_
[13:26] <EriC^^> Ladillero: try lsmod | grep rt
[13:26] <ChetManly> EriC^^: can you help me file a bug report
[13:26] <lotuscomputers> !bug | ChetManly
[13:26] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok, done. ]=_
[13:26] <EriC^^> Ladillero: also in a terminal try "iwlist scan"
[13:27] <EriC^^> Ladillero: does the rt2870sta driver show up without the rt2800usb?
[13:27] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ ok. no scan results. lo and eth0 interface doesn't support scanning. ]=_
[13:28] <ChetManly> brb
[13:29] <EriC^^> Ladillero: aha, what about lsmod | grep rt ?
[13:30] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ it shows the rtx2800usb - 0 ]=_
[13:30] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ it shows the rt2x00usb ...... 1 rt2800usb ]=_
[13:30] <EriC^^> Ladillero: damn
[13:31] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Should I try installing the 16.04 Lubuntu ? ]=_
[13:31] <EriC^^> does sudo modprobe -r rt2800usb work?
[13:31] <EriC^^> Ladillero: it's not necessary, 16.04 is faster and newer than 14.04 though
[13:32] <EriC^^> i'd definitely recommend it
[13:32] <blut> EriC^^: How is it faster?
[13:32] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ no, it doesn't work. the computer stops working. I have to restart. ]=_
[13:32] <EriC^^> blut: systemd for one.. newer kernel
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:32] <EriC^^> it does feel faster (try both in a vm and you can tell immediately, as is 14.04 faster than 12.04)
[13:33] <EriC^^> Ladillero: aha
[13:33] <Ladillero> _=[ EriC^^ Ok thanks a lot for your help. I will install 16.04. ]=_
[13:33] <blut> EriC^^: That is like responding to a questing about time with a unit of length
[13:33] <EriC^^> Ladillero: ok, no problem :)
[13:33] <EriC^^> blut: hehe, ok
[13:34]  * EriC^^ wonders what you're talking about..
[13:34] <vices> i'd like to turn off the n-mode for my wireless, anyone know offhand how to do that?
[13:34] <vices> modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 <-- I don't have the iwlwifi module apparently
[13:34] <EriC^^> blut: put both in a vm you'll see which one is faster, anyways 16.04 feels faster to me, and 14.04 on the same pc was faster than 12.04 on it.. many do agree as well
[13:35] <captainACE> how do i delete all the panels in mate ubuntu since i am using a dock?
[13:35] <vices> it's so strange that xchat is working but firefox can't connect to any sites..
[13:35] <lotuscomputers> !xchat | vices
[13:36] <maddawg> no he didnt... he fucked his friend's mom
[13:36] <maddawg> ooops
[13:36] <maddawg> wrong channel
[13:36] <maddawg> OMG dont ban me
[13:36] <blut> !upstart
[13:36] <vices> lotuscomputers, okay well.. thanks for the tip, once my wireless stops dropping connection every few minutes i'll get right on that
[13:36] <blut> Was upstart only replaced by systemd in the 16.04 version?
[13:37] <maddawg> 15 and later me thought
[13:37] <EriC^^> blut: no, it came in 15.04
[13:37] <EriC^^> 14.04 is upstart though
[13:37] <blut> LTS
[13:38] <lotuscomputers> vices: wich ubuntu version is that
[13:38] <vices> lotuscomputers, 16.04
[13:39] <lotuscomputers> vices: up to dat to latest?
[13:39] <lotuscomputers> vices: aka 16.04.1?
[13:40] <vices> lotuscomputers, seems like there's something that needs to upgrade
[13:40] <motor> uyjkl
[13:41] <lotuscomputers> vices: make sure version with lsb_release -a
[13:41] <vices> lotuscomputers,  yeah 16.04.01
[13:41] <lotuscomputers> great
[13:42] <lotuscomputers> vices: does tail -f /var/log/syslog spit any wifi dropping errors?
[13:43] <vices> lotuscomputers, jayme-Surface-Pro-2 NetworkManager[825]: <error> [1475156609.9012] platform-linux: sysctl: failed to set '/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/wlx281878595327/mtu' to '1500': (22) Invalid argument
[13:45] <vices> lotuscomputers,  jayme-Surface-Pro-2 whoopsie[771]: [22:44:42] offline
[13:45] <vices>  <--??
[13:49] <vices> the failing to set to 1500 error pops up often
[13:51] <anchnk> hi any advices about optimizing a SSD drive for a developper workstation ? I do have a 256GB SSD and 1TG Hard Drive and I am wondering if i should mount some folder on the HDD rather than the SSD (everything can be hold on the SSD in terms of space) ? I am also wondering if there would be an up to date guide to optimize SSD drive with ubuntu 16.04 LTS ?
[13:52] <tomodachi> anchnk: this depends on your way of working ofc
[13:52] <tomodachi> anchnk: keep opertingsystem and applications on SSD and large streaming only media on the other drive
[13:52] <ChetManly> !bugs
[13:53] <vices> lotuscomputers, unfortunately the exact moment when my internet browsers can no longer connect to the web isn't linked to any error in the log
[13:53] <vices> lotuscomputers, this irc network isn't disconnected however..
[13:53] <anchnk> tomodachi I mainly use eclipse/maven/jonas build chain all installed in /opt for javaEE developement and ST3 within node/npm etc for some middleware microservices
[13:53] <anchnk> what do you mean by large streaming only media on the other drive ? any example ?
[13:54] <anchnk> should my sources be on the SSD for instance ? I work on large applications with thousand of files
[13:54] <vices> ahh wait..
[13:54] <vices> there was one strange message that popped up just before the internet came back..
[13:54] <vices> jayme-Surface-Pro-2 AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting due to inactivity
[13:56] <tboiko> a
[13:57] <ChetManly> why on earth do I always seem to be accessing the sites that are doing maintenance or are slow as hell
[13:57] <ChetManly> whats going on with launchpad?
[14:02] <tboiko> !pizda Jay Kristoff - [Nevernight 01] - Nevernight (epub).epub  ::INFO:: 3.1MB
[14:02] <tomodachi> anchnk: like a true developer you know the saying "premature optimization" :)
[14:02] <tomodachi> building your project shouldnt be taking that long no matter what setup you have
[14:02] <tomodachi> if so you can make sure to keep those project files on the ssd while you work on them
[14:03] <ppf> "premature optimization" is the most abused quote in programming history
[14:04] <anchnk> tomodachi that makes sense
[14:05] <ppf> ever built a tex file from a spinning disk? its horrible.
[14:05] <tomodachi> ppf: isnt that the DRY principle?
[14:06] <ppf> to not say the quote?
[14:06] <ppf> anchnk: general rule: keep any kind of hot data on the ssd, anything else someplace else.
[14:07] <ppf> no matter what you're working with or on
[14:08] <BluesKaj> and this relates ubuntu support, how?
[14:09] <anchnk> BluesKaj i admit it's a bit off-topic sorry for dat
[14:10] <BluesKaj> anyway I've created text files with my old HDDs without any trouble
[14:12] <ppf> floppy disks worked perfectly well, too
[14:12] <vices> how can i see my wifi card model?
[14:13] <ppf> vices: lspci
[14:13] <vices> ppf, is 'communication controller' the card?
[14:14] <ppf> possibly
[14:18] <vices> should i try to blacklist the driver used by the communication controller?
[14:18] <vices> will it automatically get a new driver?
[14:21] <fk_007> I've installed xUbuntu 16.04.1 on a 64 gb sandisk flash drive. It's been about 2 weeks since installation and it is pretty stable but has booted into busy box a few times. The file system seemed to have been corrupted. It is back to being stable since it fixed itself on one of the boot-ups but I believe the problem comes from the shutdown not syncing to the flash drive or something of that nature. Just curious if this is a known issue with Ubuntu installe
[14:21] <fk_007> d on a flash drive (not live, persistent)
[14:24] <vices> alright bed time..
[14:25] <vices> goodnight~!
[14:26] <ag2019> Hello. I need some help installing ubuntu 16
[14:27] <BluesKaj> fk_007, make the install persistent ot install on a sata device
[14:27] <leo-ren> some one speak spanish?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> !es
[14:27] <lotuscomputers> !ask | ag2019
[14:28] <fk_007> BluesKaj it is persistent, it's not live
[14:29] <ag2019> I tried using a live CD that i burned and it keeps failing in the installation process
[14:30] <fk_007> i ran the installation of ubuntu and installed it to the 64 gb flash drive
[14:31] <negev> hi, is there a replacement for /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd not written by lennart poettering?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> fk_007, does it boot off the flash drive ?
[14:31] <ppf> negev: not a fan of lennart? :)
[14:31] <ag2019> i tried the flash and nothing at all.
[14:32] <Southern_Gentlem> !docs
[14:32] <fk_007> BluesKaj, yes it does, for the most part. I just had a run the other day with it booting into busybox and having issues, i believe because it was not shutting down correctly
[14:32] <fk_007> its what i'm using right now :)
[14:32] <negev> ppf: https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet
[14:32] <negev> i switched to sysvinit but there are still three systemd processes running
[14:33] <BluesKaj> fk_007, then the issue you had is probly unrelated to the drive , but to the OS itself , but if you updated and upagraded since then you should be fine
[14:34] <k1l> negev: thing is, there are a lot of projects that are merged into systemd. so you need a lot of effort to get a systemd free system. and debian and ubuntu moved to systemd.
[14:34] <negev> k1l: totally against the unix philosophy :|
[14:34] <leo-ren> some one know how to dynamically(with mouse click) change the icon of a launcher on gnome panel?
[14:34] <ppf> thank god
[14:35] <leo-ren> *on the own script
[14:35] <k1l> negev: well, make a better init system and spread it. i guess a lot of people will thank you for that.
[14:35] <negev> what's wrong with sysvinit?
[14:35] <ag2019> problem here is that i'm new to linux and ubuntu and had ubuntu erase my current partition and can't get back on.
[14:35] <ppf> negev: it's horrible to use
[14:36] <k1l> negev: look at the debian debate about the new init system. that lists all arguments. this is out of the focus of this channel
[14:47] <ChetManly> EriC^^: hey you around, I need help to file a bug
[14:48] <freelancerbob> anybody help me with ddrescue ? yesterday i run that more than 5 hour but on the output HDD is nothing
[14:48] <EriC^^> ChetManly: what's the problem?
[14:48] <ChetManly> you familiar with kde at all>
[14:48] <Surendil> how do I check for errors on a HDD?
[14:49] <k1l> ChetManly: for kde specifics #kubuntu might be the place to be
[14:49] <k1l> Surendil: unmount the disk and run fsck
[14:49] <freelancerbob> EriC^^:  maybe you can help me with that ddrescue
[14:49] <ChetManly> k1l: good one
[14:50] <Surendil> k1l, just fsck on /dev/sda?
[14:50] <freelancerbob> k1l: you were helping me with corrupted hdd 2 weeks ago
[14:50] <k1l> Surendil: fsck on the partitions. that will look after the filesystems.
[14:51] <k1l> Surendil: if you want the disk look at the smartmontools
[14:51] <k1l> freelancerbob: what is the issue?
[14:52] <k1l> freelancerbob: what did the command you used look like? what were the errors?
[14:52] <ChetManly> EriC^^: use kde at all?
[14:52] <freelancerbob> k1l: yestreday I run ddrescue but there is nothing on output hdd
[14:52] <freelancerbob> k1l: ddrescue -d -f -r3 /dev/sdc /dev/sdb lubo.txt
[14:53] <minsub> j
[14:53] <minsub> j
[14:53] <minsub> j
[14:53] <minsub> k
[14:53] <ChetManly> would kde and unity use the same backend to show gui mounts eg. udisk?
[14:56] <ChetManly> I am trying to get a bug report out for DEVICE MONITOR in kde system tray, it is incorrectly identifying drives leading to data loss, I read the bug page and dont see how to file a bug report against it
[14:56] <Surendil> k1l, works the same with ntfs partition?
[14:56] <k1l> freelancerbob: did you look into lubo.txt?
[14:56] <freelancerbob> k1l: there is not any file
[14:56] <freelancerbob> before i run that command i rofmat output disk
[14:57] <k1l> freelancerbob: so did it do anything at all?
[14:57] <ChetManly> if anyone could help with that even though this is a more gtk oriented channel
[14:57] <freelancerbob> k1l: do you think i need to run i t again ? first format ?
[14:57] <k1l> freelancerbob: dont format. the dd coammdn will wipe everything on the target anyway
[14:59] <freelancerbob> k1l: and why it did not create that file ?
[14:59] <k1l> freelancerbob: i dont know
[14:59] <boxrick1> I am currently creating an automated install for Ubuntu, for both 14 and 16
[15:00] <boxrick1> However the ethernet device changes between the two of these
[15:00] <boxrick1> Is there any way I can just set a generic 'use the first network interface'
[15:00] <boxrick1> For my kernel options, or pre seed?
[15:00] <boxrick1> Rather than having to specify en0 for example
[15:00] <freelancerbob> k1l:  ok i just plug in external HDD and do not see it with file manager, do i have format it first ?
[15:01] <boxrick1> If I remove the hard coded interface it starts asking me which one do I  want to use.
[15:01] <nacc> boxrick1: 'd-i netcfg/choose_interface auto'
[15:01] <k1l> freelancerbob: no. look at dmesg if that disk is seen by the kerne
[15:01] <nacc> boxrick1: presuming you have only one plugged in interface
[15:01] <boxrick1> And if not, it would ask anyway ?
[15:02] <freelancerbob> k1l: how ti find it ?
[15:02] <freelancerbob> k1l:  [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[15:02] <k1l> freelancerbob: so, there it is
[15:02] <nacc> boxrick1: you mean you have multiple interfaces with link?
[15:03] <nacc> boxrick1: uh, in that case, i think it becomes unpredictable which one might get chosen
[15:03] <nacc> boxrick1: not 100% sure, though
[15:03] <boxrick1> Ok, thats fine
[15:03] <freelancerbob> k1l:  yes i plugin good HDD and do not see it
[15:03] <boxrick1> Cheers for that though :)
[15:03] <ChetManly> I am trying to get a bug report out for DEVICE VIEWER in kde system tray, it is incorrectly identifying drives leading to data loss, I read the bug page and dont see how to file a bug report against it*****
[15:03] <nacc> !bug | ChetManly
[15:04] <k1l> freelancerbob: again: i dont know what you did to your systems. but if you plugin your disk to the pc and in dmesg at the end you see a "sdb attached" then your disk is seen"
[15:04] <boxrick1> How does the above command vary to the following command 'd-i netcfg/choose_interface select auto' ?
[15:04] <ChetManly> nacc: freezes
[15:04] <boxrick1> Does the select make a difference
[15:04] <k1l> freelancerbob: what you mean with seeing it in your desktop browser its about partitions. but that is a totally different thing
[15:04] <nacc> boxrick1: *err, you're right, should be 'select auto'
[15:05] <freelancerbob> k1l: ok what i should do now ?
[15:05] <boxrick1> Interestingly, I had a prompt with that command which is telling me the first interface has been selected but it isn't confirmed it
[15:05] <boxrick1> So that has stalled the install
[15:05] <nacc> boxrick1: oh it might need one more preseed
[15:05] <nacc> boxrick1: let me look
[15:06] <k1l> freelancerbob: i dont know if that dd command was correct and if there were any errors. i dont know your setup or what the intention was
[15:06] <freelancerbob> k1l: and what ddrescue command do you suggest ?
[15:07] <k1l> freelancerbob: using dd(rescue) its very important to make sure that source and target are correct.
[15:07] <k1l> freelancerbob: ddrescue is fine. but there is enough stuff that can be done wrong by the user
[15:09] <freelancerbob> k1l: and what can be wrong ? I have one wrong HDD and one good HDD
[15:09] <boxrick1> netcfg/choose_interface=auto seems to come up from my search as a kernel paramter
[15:10] <nacc> boxrick1:that's the equivalent of the preseed file command
[15:10] <nacc> boxrick1: ah i see, yes, that's your issue
[15:10] <nacc> boxrick1: so network booting, you need network *before* you get the preseed
[15:10] <nacc> boxrick1: so i'd suggest sending all network stuff over the kernel cmdline
[15:10] <k1l> freelancerbob: something must have been wrong.
[15:11] <boxrick1> Yea it seems so, that line just there seems to have helped
[15:11] <freelancerbob> k1l:  ok tell me what i have to do with correct HDD ?
[15:11] <skinux> I'm trying to install a standard for PHP CodeSniffer. It tells me to add something to PATH variable of .bashrc, but my /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't set any PATH variable
[15:11] <k1l> freelancerbob: look at the dmesg output when you connect that disk
[15:11] <nacc> skinux: /etc/bash.bashrc is not 'your' .bashrc
[15:11] <skinux> What happened to .bashrc is home directory?
[15:11] <nacc> skinux: that's the system-wide one, consider using ~/.bashrc
[15:12] <skinux> ~/.bashrc didn't show in result of 'locate .bashrc'
[15:13] <freelancerbob> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251459/
[15:13] <skinux> The ~/.bashrc doesn't set PATH either
[15:13] <skinux> Should I just add PATH=whatever-here to the bottom of the file?
[15:14] <k1l> freelancerbob: and what was placed on that old disk that you dd to that new disk?
[15:14] <punkoivan> .profle?
[15:14] <punkoivan> .bash_profile ?
[15:14] <freelancerbob> k1l: it is corrupted, i have photos there to need to restore :(
[15:14] <skinux> .bash_profile is empty
[15:14] <freelancerbob> k1l:  and you or someone told me use ddrescue
[15:16] <nacc> skinux: you should use PATH=...:$PATH generally
[15:17] <nacc> skinux: otherwise you're overriding PATH, not prepending to it
[15:17] <nacc> skinux: but what PHP thing needs to muck with PATH??
[15:17] <skinux> Yeah, but should I just add that to the bottom of ~/.bashrc?
[15:17]  * ChetManly thinks EriC^^hates kde people :-D
[15:17] <skinux> It says to do it in this https://github.com/WordPress-Coding-Standards/WordPress-Coding-Standards
[15:17] <k1l> freelancerbob: yes. ddrescue is the right tool if the hardware is faulty. but its not a guarantee. there are hardware faults that cant be recovered. so without you saying what error was there when ddrescue was working i dont know what happend. you could try testdisk on the new disk if there are partitions on it.
[15:18] <nacc> skinux: gross. But ok. Is there a reason you can't use the archive version of codesniffer?
[15:19] <nacc> skinux: they want you to, for some reason, use their version of codesniffer
[15:20] <nacc> skinux: ah, i see they need 1.7.x
[15:20] <freelancerbob> k1l: testdisk http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251499/
[15:20] <nacc> skinux: yeah, you can just put PATH manipulations wherever you want in your .bashrc ... although it's a bit surprising to me that your .bashrc is empty
[15:21] <skinux> It's not empty, it just doesn't set PATH at all
[15:21] <k1l> freelancerbob: you know what partitions were on that disk before. so look if testdisk can find that right setup.
[15:22] <skinux> It has a couple of if conditions, both containing some code
[15:22] <_AxS_> Hey all -- i've got an ubuntu 14.04 install, but am trying to run something that needs rubygems newer than 1.9.3 ...  is bringing in a newer ruby or rubygems easy enough or should I bite the bullet and look into doing a full dist-upgrade to 16.04 ?
[15:22] <freelancerbob> k1l: i do not know what to do with testdisk
[15:22] <nacc> skinux: you can just put an appropriate PATH= line (as i mentioned above) in your .bashrc
[15:22] <_AxS_> skinux: what's the thing you're trying to do? i just got here...
[15:23] <k1l> freelancerbob: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  it can repair the partition table where the start end endings of partitions are written
[15:23] <Loulou> This is a test
[15:24] <skinux> Wait. The tutorial is having to install PHP-CodeSniffer from GitHub...I installed it from repo..
[15:25] <nacc> skinux: yes, it requires a more recent version than ubuntu has (and so will presumably fail when you try to us the ubuntu version)
[15:25] <skinux> Ahh.
[15:28] <lotuscomputers> _AxS_: inmost cases its recommended to not mix package versions
[15:28] <lotuscomputers> _AxS_: unless you want to experiment with !pinning
[15:29]  * _AxS_ nods..  My main distro is gentoo, and we've got the ability there to install multiple versions of ruby without any conflict.  I wasn't sure if ubuntu had the same capability or not
[15:29] <_AxS_> multiple major-versions, that is (1.9, 2.0, 2.1)
[15:30] <nacc> _AxS_: no, that's not supported, afaict -- although 16.04 has both a ruby and ruby2.3 package
[15:35] <Linux-Ninja> Team, does encrypting home using a login password still makes the system vulnerable to someone with access tot he system since theyc an go into single mode and reset the local password and debrypt the home? How are you guys approaching this, encrypting the boot process as well?
[15:36] <drjuls> Greetings! My mouse only works on ubuntu 16:04 to run "sudo rmmod usbhid" "sudo modprobe usbhid". But every time I turn on my laptop have to do this, someone could help me?
[15:37] <nacc> Linux-Ninja: you could use whole-disk encryption
[15:37] <Linux-Ninja> nacc, what tools do you recoemnd for this purpose?
[15:37] <nacc> drjuls: can you compare the 'dmesg' output for that device before & after you run those commands
[15:37] <nacc> Linux-Ninja: reinstall, in this case, and select the whole disk encryption option
[15:38] <Linux-Ninja> nacc, I already got the system up and running
[15:38] <Linux-Ninja> is there a tool we can do after the system is running?
[15:38] <nacc> Linux-Ninja: no
[15:39] <nacc> Linux-Ninja: not if you want whole disk encryption, afaik
[15:40] <Linux-Ninja> nacc, thanks...I will search around...
[15:41] <drjuls> nacc, I am newbie in Linux, I do not quite understand
[15:42] <nacc> drjuls: boot first where it doesn't work, run `dmesg > dmesg.pre`, then do the rmmod/modprobe and run `dmesg > dmesg.post` and then pastebin them both (pastebinit -i dmesg.pre; pastebinit -i dmesg.post) and provide the two URLs here
[15:45] <drjuls> nacc, [   33.645273] input:  USB OPTICAL MOUSE as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/0003:15D9:0A4C.0002/input/input13
[15:46] <nacc> drjuls: please use a pastebin as directed
[15:46] <ATDT912> I have ubuntu on my Macbook pro 15" retina, and I have a lot of screen tearing in google chrome, while scrolling. I have tried to find a remedy, but I haven't found any clear instructions. Can anyone here, help?
[15:48] <ptytty> currently im replacing ubuntu login with custom greeter & usb authentication
[15:49] <ptytty> anyone know if its been done or have examples?
[15:49] <drjuls> nacc, sorry. http://pastebin.com/NeyuGHpk
[15:51] <nacc> drjuls: that's the pre?
[15:51] <nacc> drjuls: or is that both?
[15:51] <craigbass76> I'm trying to only allow ssh from the LAN and a couple other public IPs. Not sure how. If I've got deny all in hosts deny, and then allow 192.168.x.0/24 and the couple of other IP addresses, will that do the trick? This is an older machine with no repos available, so I'm trying to do it without having to go grab and install whatever iptables worked on this when it was new
[15:52] <craigbass76> And are hosts allow/deny changes immediate, or do I haveto restart the network first?
[15:52] <drjuls> nacc, is pre
[15:52] <nacc> drjuls: the error appears to be "usb 1-1.1: input irq status -75 received" can you please provide post?
[15:53] <nacc> craigbass76: i think you want hosts.deny to say "ALL EXCEPT ...." syntax
[15:53] <nacc> craigbass76: if you're allowing public access, though (even if restricted), don't you want to get on a supported release?
[15:56] <drjuls> nacc, http://pastebin.com/ZZdmXsFu  post the commands
[15:57] <nacc> drjuls: and i'm guessing you no longer see that '
[15:57] <nacc> drjuls: sorry mishit entre -- 'input irq status' line?
[15:58] <craigbass76> nacc: I'm at the mercy of what my company stuck on these servers. This one is Fedora17, but with a new guy in charge, I think we're moving to Ubuntu Server eventually
[15:58] <craigbass76> I've been on a RH 7.3 box lately
[15:58] <nacc> drjuls: how is your usb device connected? hub? kvm switch?
[15:58] <nacc> craigbass76: you should verify with the fedora or redhat channels, then
[16:00] <nacc> drjuls: fwiw, i think it should also just work to unplug & replug your mouse, possible
[16:00] <nacc> *possibly
[16:00] <drjuls> nacc, optical mouse
[16:00] <drjuls> nacc, I've tried to do that too
[16:01] <nacc> drjuls: https://askubuntu.com/questions/768455/usb-mouse-suddenly-stopped-working-16-04 ?
[16:01] <drjuls> nacc, I will trying here, I notice any results. Thank you very much!
[16:02] <c_nick> I want to perform some operations on three servers - copy some folders, update paths and install standard softwares like wincmp3,7zip etc.. how can i automate the same?
[16:02] <ubuntu214> Hey All !
[16:02] <nacc> c_nick: think we talked about this a few days ago
[16:03] <ubuntu214> Have A big Problem ,, Can u help me with ,, plz ! :(
[16:03] <nacc> !ask | ubuntu214
[16:03] <ubuntu214> thanx nacc and ubottu ...
[16:04] <ubuntu214> i have installed Ubuntu 16.04 ( GNOME Flav) And my wifi and Bluetooth ,, not working :( ... "" P.S : i Dont have an internet connection ...
[16:05] <nacc> ubuntu214: are you here on a different computer then?
[16:05] <ubuntu214> yes nacc ,,, yes i am ...
[16:06] <tcorneli> hi, my mouse is stuck in a small square in the top left corner (after using wine ); i would like to change this without restarting x
[16:06] <ubuntu214> Any help ? :\
[16:07] <compdoc> ubuntu214, download the Ubuntu desktop iso, and boot that without installing. see if it works
[16:08] <ubuntu214> compdoc : i tried that ,,, but , still not working ...
[16:09] <compdoc> ubuntu214, do you see the wifi and wired interfaces in Network Manager? maybe its your network. ot maybe you pc is broken
[16:09] <compdoc> or
[16:10] <ubuntu214> compdoc : no icon is shown .... think the problem in the Driver ....
[16:11] <ubuntu214> when i run this command " lspci -n | grep 14e4 " on terminal , shows this " http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251766/ "
[16:11] <compdoc> ubuntu214, if thats the case, then when 16.10 comes out, that version might support your hardware
[16:12] <ubuntu214> compdoc : i only use LTS version ,,, Thanx For Helping .. :)
[16:12] <compdoc> ubuntu214, if its a laptop, make sure the wifi/network switch is on
[16:13] <ubuntu214> any Suggestion ??
[16:13] <c_nick> nacc, I read on ansible docker and Fabric etc.. but they are more about deploying the Software Application on the server but i want to install System Software like 7zip etc how can i achieve that in an automated way
[16:13] <nacc> c_nick: 'software application' and 'system software' are not ubuntu/linux concepts
[16:14] <nacc> c_nick: `apt install p7zip` is what you're trying to automate
[16:14] <nacc> c_nick: which is no different than any other package
[16:14] <ubuntu214> compdoc : there's no wifi icon .... that means ,, bcmwl ' not here :(
[16:14] <c_nick> nacc, any idea about windows
[16:15] <c_nick> i need 7-zip wincmp3 installed
[16:15] <nacc> c_nick: why are you asking about windows in an ubuntu channel?
[16:15] <c_nick> through a script which i can then schedule using TC/jenkins
[16:15] <compdoc> ubuntu214, yes, many laptops have an actual on/off switch on the keyboard for security
[16:15] <compdoc> when its off, there is no wifi card
[16:15] <c_nick> nacc, i work on linux but i cant ignore the windows servers :(
[16:15] <nacc> c_nick: this is the *ubuntu* support channel
[16:16] <nacc> c_nick: it's completely offtopic to ask how to install software on windows
[16:16] <c_nick> :( ok i will head over to windows
[16:16] <nacc> woudl have been nice for you to mention windows anywhere in your original message, or your prior message, as well...
[16:16] <ubuntu214> i have installed bcmwl for my chip st ,, and i run additional Driver ... Can't Run my STA Driver ... it is Automatically chose off   :(
[16:17] <ubuntu214> need help ,,, plz :'(
[16:17] <c_nick> nacc,  yep but i needed for linux too .. cross platform solution didn't leave my mind
[16:17] <tcorneli> can anyone tell me why i can move my mouse only in a small square in the top left corner?
[16:17] <tod_shis> press red button
[16:18] <morty_> hey errybody.. is it possible to use bcmwl with kernel 4.8?
[16:18] <ubuntu214> tcorneli ,, i solved this problem by installing gecko lib & PlayOnLiNUX ...
[16:20] <tcorneli> ubuntu214, playonlinux is installed; do you mean to install gecko lib in playonlinux or in ubuntu?
[16:20] <nacc> morty_: the only topical reason for that question is for 16.10, which should be in #ubuntu+1
[16:20] <ubuntu214> tcorneli install it for ubuntu
[16:21] <morty_> is it bad practice to use a newer kernel in 13.04?
[16:21] <morty_> 16.04
[16:21] <nacc> morty_: it's not supported, wait for the hwe kernels
[16:21] <tcorneli> ubuntu214, what's the package name? i tried gecko and gecko-lib
[16:22] <ubuntu214> tcorneli : https://wiki.winehq.org/Gecko
[16:22] <ubuntu214> tcorneli : askubuntu.com/questions/.../wine-install-do-i-need-mono-gecko-etc
[16:23] <morty_> not being supported and not working well might be two things :)
[16:23] <ubuntu214> any help for my wifi card :(
[16:24] <nacc> morty_: it's not going to have been tested
[16:24] <nacc> morty_: just wait for hwe or you're on your own
[16:24] <morty_> nacc: i was hoping to be on my own with some other enthusiastiv people i could find here :)
[16:24] <_AxS_> morty_: technically you can roll your own kernels from source, there really isn't much in terms of system libs or software that binds to kernel versions, just kernel features.  However, you do get to pick up the pieces for such things, and proprietary binary drivers are very likely to not work.
[16:25] <ubuntu214> whats the kernel version in UBUNTU 16.04
[16:26] <pavlos> around 4.4.0-38
[16:26] <tcorneli> closing the windows app (in PoL) solved the issue
[16:26] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[16:26] <nacc> ubuntu214: --^
[16:27] <_AxS_> morty_: tbh i wouldn't recommend running newer than 4.4 anyhow, i've found them to be crashy.
[16:27] <elisa87> if I have IP address of an Ubuntu EC2 instances, how can I check what is the output of its df -h /?
[16:28] <nacc> elisa87: you would ssh in and run that command?
[16:28] <elisa87> nacc so I am writing this in a script
[16:29] <nacc> elisa87: ok ... so you'd run `ssh <...> df -h`
[16:29] <nacc> presuming you have keys setup
[16:29] <morty_> _AxS_: i had a very annoying flickering in the gnome3 title bar.. that went away with 4.8 :) i try to go back to 4.6 or sth.. maybe both works then
[16:29] <morty_> _AxS_: its not an important system or anything.. so i can play a little.. dont mind
[16:30] <nacc> morty_: then just run 16.10?
[16:30] <_AxS_> morty_: which video chipset?  I'd be somewhat surprised if the kernel made that much of a difference, unless it's got to do with the versions of the firmware its loading or whatever
[16:30] <morty_> intel hd
[16:30] <morty_> 4k somthing
[16:30] <_AxS_> is it super new?
[16:31] <morty_> no not really
[16:31]  * _AxS_ shrugs
[16:31] <morty_> nacc: might try 16.10 soon.. but wouldnt i run into exactly the same problem then?
[16:32] <nacc> morty_: 16.10 has the 4.8 kernel
[16:32] <_AxS_> morty_: 16.10 isn't LTS so i'm guessing it's not tied to LTS kernels
[16:32] <morty_> nacc: but if bcwlm doesnt support that kernel i still have no wifi
[16:32] <morty_> bcmwl
[16:32] <nacc> _AxS_: 16.04.2 will also have 4.8 (aiui) via hwe stack
[16:33] <ubloomto> Hello all
[16:33] <nacc> morty_: and you've installed bcmwl-kernel-source?
[16:33] <ubuntu214>  i have installed bcmwl for my chip st ,, and i run additional Driver ... Can't Run my STA Driver ... it is Automatically chose off   :(
[16:33] <ubuntu214> any help ^
[16:33] <nacc> morty_: as that's the bcmwl driver, it's in all versions of ubuntu, the restricted section
[16:34] <ubloomto> say there is an application that overwrites files temporarily during ubuntu running, is there a way I can check for an overwritten file whilst still on the same logged in session?
[16:35] <ubuntu214> Any Driver for this :> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23251766/  ... using Ubuntu 16.04
[16:35] <morty_> nacc: yes its installed.. but the --reinstall does say no module wl found and kernel 4.8 not supported
[16:35] <dfrey> Is there a guide to install a more minimal Ubuntu?  I am trying to create a VM with a development environment, so I don't want things like rhythmbox, mail clients, etc.  I know there is a minimal ISO, but that seems like it just installs the same Ubuntu, but downloads everything at installation time.
[16:35] <nacc> morty_: in 16.10?
[16:35] <morty_> 16.04 still
[16:35] <nacc> morty_: again, 16.04 doesn't have a 4.8 kernel, so of course the pacakge doesn't work
[16:36] <nacc> try 16.10, if you want
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> !mini | dfrey there's this
[16:36] <morty_> nacc: mine has :) even though not supported.. i go try 4.6.. maybe till later
[16:36] <ubuntu214> my Kernel Version is 4.4 ... Bcmwl gona work ? :\
[16:36] <morty_> ubuntu214: yeah.. worked under 4.4
[16:36] <nacc> morty_: please stop trying to be cute, i think you know what i mean
[16:37] <nacc> dfrey: you could also start with server and install whatyou need
[16:37] <dfrey> MonkeyDust: I mentioned that in my question.  Doesn't that just install all the same stuff as the regular desktop ISO?
[16:38] <ubloomto> I am looking for a certain firefox file that may have been overwritten, but possibly still stored on my machine somewhere. Is there a place (like a /tmp/ area) where such overwritten files are stored?
[16:38] <nacc> ubloomto: if it's been overwritten... where would it be?
[16:38] <nacc> ubloomto: most programs don't make backups of their own files, ime
[16:38] <nacc> ubloomto: unless you did it yourself, first
[16:38] <dfrey> nacc: Is there anything special about the server installer that will make my installation unusual once I install a desktop environment?
[16:39] <ubuntu214> am so stupid ,, can't run my wifi
[16:39] <nacc> dfrey: no, just a difference of what packages are installed by default
[16:40] <ubuntu214> how to know my Bcmwl Driver - Card/Model ??
[16:40] <ubloomto> nacc: I accidentally chose the wrong option on session restore. then I panicked, closed the browser, re-opened and tried to restore. the sessionrestore file likely got overwritten, but this guide: http://techrant.co.uk/2012/03/how-to-recover-your-firefox-session-when-all-hope-is-lost/ says there might be a temp version stored somewhere. It is howev
[16:40] <ubloomto> er, windows-based, so I thought I'd ask here for a Linux option
[16:41] <dfrey> nacc: ok. thanks
[16:42] <nacc> ubloomto: try ~.mozilla/firefox/<session id>/sessionstore-backups ?
[16:42] <nacc> ubloomto: er ~/.mozilla/firefox/<session id>/sessionstore-backups ?
[16:42] <morty_> soo.. if anyone is interessted.. with 4.6.7 it works.. aaaand 4.8 didnt help the flickering as i thought :)
[16:44] <ubloomto> nacc: I have looked there already. The recovery.bak and recovery.js both got overwritten. I want to find the version 'just before' they were overwritten
[16:45] <nacc> ubloomto: so you've recovered twice already?
[16:51] <ubloomto> nacc: I opened my browser, accidentally chose the wrong option. it gave me a fresh option. I then closed the browser and re-opened (thinking my old session might be there), but it is not there anymore. Browser has been closed once only
[16:52] <theonefoo> I’ve created a key pair on my host machine and copied the public key to an ubuntu server. sshd_config has PasswordAuthentication set to no. Why is it that now trying to run `ssh -i privatekey myuser@ubuntu-machine-ip` prompts me for my user’s password? This command is run from within ~/.ssh on host machine and privatekey exists in that path.
[16:52] <ubloomto> theonefoo: did you restart the SSH service after making changes?
[16:53] <theonefoo> yes, but I can try that again since I changed sshd_config several times before I was able to log in with the new privatekey
[16:53] <hicoleri> I use refind ans a workaround as a method to boot to usb devices on my computer, because GRUB seems to override the rest of my boot devices (and the boot device selection menu, i.e. the f10 menu). However, even that doesn't seem to detect my usb devices now. (i have tested them on a seperate computer.) What should I do?
[16:53] <theonefoo> sudo /ssh/init.d/ssh restart right?
[16:54] <ubloomto> theonefoo: yes
[16:54] <theonefoo> hm no that’s not the path…
[16:54] <pavlos>  /etc
[16:54] <theonefoo> thanks
[16:54] <theonefoo> that did the trick, thank you!
[16:55] <ubloomto> theonefoo: you don't need to add your private key to the command. Add that info to your hosts file
[16:55] <theonefoo> this ssh command is running on a CI environment, not sure how I could script creating the hosts file so that it works in this case
[16:57] <theonefoo> right now private key is set as an environment variable in CI configuration and is echo’d to a “sshkey” file
[17:01] <akik> ubloomto: which hosts file do you mean?
[17:01] <akik> ubloomto: because in /etc/hosts there are just ips and hostnames
[17:01] <theonefoo> akik: ~/.ssh/known_hosts?
[17:02] <ubloomto> that one ^^
[17:02] <ubloomto> ^
[17:02] <theonefoo> hm I guess I could just echo it to there
[17:03] <theonefoo> is that even necessary though when the ssh command runs once in a disposable CI environment?
[17:03] <CHBMB> Anybody replaced nautilus with nemo?  Any "gotchas"
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> CHBMB  nemo has the F3 dual pane, nautilus does not
[17:04] <CHBMB> Worthwhile changing then?  I'm fairly new to Ubuntu (less than a month exclusively)
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> CHBMB  'worthwile' is a matter of opinion and appreciation
[17:06] <k1l> CHBMB: best is to try it on your own, to be honest. everyone got a different taste or workflow
[17:07] <CHBMB> Fair point chaps...
[17:07] <akik> correct me if i'm wrong but i thought known_hosts has only host keys, not personal keys
[17:07] <CHBMB> Any other nautilus replacements you'd recommend?
[17:08] <ubloomto> akik: known hosts is what you'd use to map each key to an IP
[17:09] <ChetManly> does chown not work on ntfs drive?
[17:09] <ChetManly> mine is root but I want it to be my user
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> ChetManly  iirc, ntfs does not know linux flags
[17:09] <k1l> ChetManly: ntfs doesnt support that.
[17:10] <k1l> ChetManly: so chown the mountpoint and look at what mount settings you used
[17:10] <eslam_LinUxer> Hey Guys ,,,, i have Succeed  . installing STA for my Bcmwl ,, using Ubuntu 16.04 {offline}
[17:10] <ChetManly> ok mount point not device
[17:10] <akik> ubloomto: i just didn't understand what you meant by adding the private key to the hosts file
[17:11] <ChetManly> k1l: spanks :-)
[17:11] <eslam_LinUxer> badly " http://3.1m.yt/Hdm3mDI.png " , can't select proprietary ,, ! " when i chose it and press Apply ,, show no action ...
[17:12] <eslam_LinUxer> Any Help Plz ! ^
[17:13] <ChetManly> so do I need a card with three or more video outs to three monitors?
[17:13] <ChetManly> meaning its not possible to have three with a card that only has two outs?
[17:14] <eslam_LinUxer> any help ,, for my problem ???
[17:14] <slaffe> anyone care to help? Trying to enable a service in systemctl
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> !patience | eslam_LinUxer
[17:14] <nacc> slaffe: what is happening?