[06:45] <dan_> no, but whenever i go to install one, it doesn't work
[06:45] <sugoruyo> i can't run the config utility etc
[06:45] <Buzzzz> sugoruyo, same here :)
[06:45] <nastas> cryptonic: how are you? everything ok with the partition?
[06:45] <savvas> grant: to make it run again type /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:45] <grant> thanks guys i'll try that
[06:45] <fishsticks> buzzz and sugoruyo, what can't you do
[06:45] <dizzie> Been ages since i've used xchat. What is the slash command for parsing bash output thru xchat? (ie. uptime or whatever)
[06:45] <savvas> grant: sorry, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:45] <tony_> i downloaded netloony.. is a jar how can i install this program .. ? im new to linux
[06:45] <webben> TomaszD, you've probably got the wrong spelling dictionary or something
[06:45] <fishsticks> where is it going wrong
[06:45] <dan_> fishsticks, here's one: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/526220/searchmonkey.html
[06:45] <T-R-X> elo, is it normal i have in my mixer onyl a 4channel mode when my soundcard is 6 channel ?
[06:45] <Buzzzz> fishsticks, the restrited kernel module doesn't load
[06:46] <fishsticks> buzzzz... hrmm
[06:46] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - doubt vendor is going to be around on a sat am to check, but i'm not inclined to kill it without knowing what it is
[06:46] <sugoruyo> i apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel common
[06:46] <byncsa> hi, ubunteros http://storage.canalblog.com/45/48/206401/7953255.png
[06:46] <savvas> !java
[06:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:46] <sugoruyo> and that goes well but when i try to nvidia-glx-config enable it says it can't load the kernel driver
[06:46] <sobersabre> guys, I have this problem with a setting in /etc/login.defs
[06:46] <savvas> !java | tony_
[06:46] <ubotu> tony_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:46] <sobersabre> it has a variable that I get error with:
[06:46] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - thanks, going to do some more research before i proceed.
[06:46] <epsilon_> vivabenfica: then you will have to wait. what file system is it? does windows see it?
[06:46] <epsilon_> it is not backup, maybe some sort of OEM install source, but that should be fat or ntfs.
[06:47] <sobersabre> configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator)
[06:47] <tony_> i give up . .hehe.
[06:47] <sobersabre> I maybe am missing a pam module or something... has anybody seen this ?
[06:47] <fishsticks> you and buzzzz have the same problem, and i don't know off the top of my head =/ did you try the forums
[06:47] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - linux sees it as unknown, can't remember what windows sees it as
[06:47] <savvas> tony_: jar is a java file, so you need java to run it if it's a java program
[06:48] <Buzzzz> fishsponge_, yeah.. btw what is the name of the restrited module?
[06:48] <tony_> thanks..
[06:48] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - would have to reboot to check (i'm on ubuntu live/install cd now)
[06:48] <sugoruyo> i did but stuff seems to be useless for the most part
[06:48] <epsilon_> vivabenfica: try it. anyway, it is unknown, linux knows lotsof partition tpyes. (fat, ntfs, iso....)
[06:48] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - cool, back in a bit
[06:48] <epsilon_> vivabenfica: i think its just safe to delete it...
[06:48] <epsilon_> okok
[06:49] <fishsticks> hey dan_, i read the readme on that searchmonkey program, its very straightforward
[06:49] <kikokos> hi do u know how to make screenshot from film?
[06:49] <Buzzzz> fishsticks, yea, btw do you know the nmae of the restricted nvidia module?
[06:49] <dan_> i'll try it
[06:49] <kikokos> which program?
[06:49] <dan_> i'm having internet problems
[06:49] <celenk2> Would anyone know why I'm getting the error that usually means synaptic is open... yet I know it's not?(I can't do any apt-get, or use the updater)
[06:50] <Lone> I have Edgy on my 80 GB hard drive, but I have another 80 GB hard drive installed and I would like to combine them in a RAID setup... is there any way to do that without reinstalling Edgy?
[06:50] <fishsticks> buzzzz, its something like "nvidia-glx-restricted" but i forget, im looking it up now
[06:50] <kikokos> anybody know how to make screenshot from movie e.x. from totem or another?
[06:50] <kikokos> not prt scr
[06:51] <kikokos> how to show film in jpg :P
[06:51] <Riga> no
[06:51] <tecta> how do i get flash9 on ubuntu?
[06:51] <savvas> !flash
[06:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:51] <kikokos> ubotu its to me?
[06:51] <savvas> !flash9
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about its to me? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:52] <savvas> yes kikokos
[06:52] <celenk2> Would anyone know why I'm getting the error that usually means synaptic is open... yet I know it's not?(I can't do any apt-get, or use the updater)
[06:53] <RogerBacon> do you know a solution to read ebock in ,chm on linux ?
[06:53] <T-R-X> with what command i can test a 5.1 spaker system ? ( that rly every one is working -> ii am sure they are ok, but dont think the sound is ok )
[06:53] <bluephantom>
[06:53] <Sugadude> celenk2: You probably need to delete the apt lock file.
[06:53] <rooti1> Buzzzz: any progress ? i didnt get further, did u?
[06:53] <sobersabre> guys, where are upgrade dapper->etch notes are located ?
[06:53] <dan_> fishsticks, i think i'm going to have to try it later because my internet's not behaving well. thanks so much for you help, though.
[06:54] <Buzzzz> rooti1, searching for the name of the restrited module
[06:54] <fishsticks> dan_ no problem.  i have to run anyway.  the install readme is quite simple, so have no fear when you get there =P
[06:54] <g8m> T-R-X,  speaker-test can do that
[06:54] <bluephantom> root
[06:54] <dan_> thanks, fishsticks!
[06:54] <T-R-X> well i know but what param :)
[06:54] <Buzzzz> rooti1, so that i can try to lado it manually
[06:54] <Buzzzz> load
[06:54] <T-R-X> bah will try man :o nvm
[06:54] <bluephantom> quit
[06:54] <rooti1> Buzzzz: which one ?nvidia-kernel-common ?
[06:55] <Buzzzz> rooti1, yes
[06:55] <rooti1> yeah thats the name isnt it ^^ but i installed it and nothing happens :P
[06:55] <tony_> can anyone tell me how to install flash player that was just listed in this chat ?
[06:56] <epsilon_> !flash
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <Buzzzz> rooti1, but not the name that depmod uses?
[06:56] <savvas> Buzzzz:   Depends: <nvidia-kernel-1.0.8776>
[06:56] <savvas>     linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[06:56] <savvas>     linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic
[06:56] <savvas> apt-cache depends nvidia-glx
[06:56] <savvas> :)
[06:56] <rooti1> i run the generic
[06:56] <cryptonic> epsilon_ : for the secondary partition what should I set the mount point to?
[06:57] <Martincho> is there a way to upgrade from dapper to edgy and keep all the data that I have in my disk?
[06:57] <Buzzzz> savvas, ok.. I mean the name of the .ko file
[06:57] <cryptonic> primary is = / swap = swap secondary = ?
[06:58] <fatlip> now i can go build my NAS/backup server
[06:59] <savvas> Buzzzz: locate *nv*.ko
[06:59] <engla> I have large trouble. I can't install libxul-dev and I can't install libnss3-0d, without removing things like evolution, firefox, yelp
[06:59] <savvas> ah.. oh well ;p
[06:59] <engla> what is this for? Anyone having built democracyplayer 0.9.1 for ubuntu/powerpc or otherwise?
[07:00] <tony_> OK, i downloaded FLASH 9 beta from adobe , how do i go about installing that ?
[07:00] <witless> am i and zugu the only people whose X setups were hosed with the last ubuntu update?
[07:00] <fatlip> damn i need a server case for this
[07:01] <jbroome> witless: the restricted modules update?
[07:01] <witless> jbroome: i think so
[07:01] <azureal> tony_, follow the directions on their site or in a README  or INSTALL file
[07:01] <witless> version mismatch between nvidia modules
[07:01] <phargle> make sure they're the same version
[07:01] <T-R-X> hm when i run the spaker test it wrote 1 channel and "sssssss" many times :(
[07:02] <azureal> tony_, usually these things come w/ a readme or install
[07:02] <phargle> T-R-X: but did it make any noise?
[07:02] <tony_> its says to move the file into my browsers plugin.. but i can not find mozilia folder since is hidden ???
[07:02] <T-R-X> yes from 4 spakers
[07:02] <T-R-X> "only" ( i have 5.1)
[07:02] <T-R-X> can i pm you with the problem ?
[07:03] <vivabenfica> hi all - can anyone point me out to a good resource on partitioning to triple boot windows xp, ubunto, other linux, using a max of 2 more primary partitions?
[07:04] <T-R-X> speaker-test 1.0.13
[07:04] <T-R-X> Playback device is default
[07:04] <T-R-X> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
[07:04] <T-R-X> and the 4 speakers made "ssss" :)
[07:04] <T-R-X> btw when i play a 6 channel wav, it actualy play  sound from every of the 5.1 spaker but not from the right one :(
[07:08] <RememberPOL> The Feisty Fawn
[07:10] <grant> hey guys please help got a bit of a problem here, installed the nvidia beta drivers and now getting the following error at boot "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this module has version 1.0-9625" please help
[07:10] <SB|nblracer> how would i go about to make an Icon, and when it clicked on it dose a commmand
[07:11] <ProN00b> damn, with flash9 my sound gets stuck from time to time, anyone having the same problem ?
[07:11] <grant> hey guys please help got a bit of a problem here, installed the nvidia beta drivers and now getting the following error at boot "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this module has version 1.0-9625" please help
[07:11] <epsilon_> so vivabenfica you can:
[07:11] <SB|nblracer> nevermind im stupid i found it
[07:12] <saxin> Why should I install drivers from NVIDIA, when I have the possibility to use the opensource-drivers?
[07:12] <Sugar^> anyone has a link on how to print to a windows printserver from ubuntu ?
[07:12] <XP1> why can i only see 800x600?????
[07:12] <jbroome> !resolution
[07:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:12] <saxin> XP1: I guess you have to install you graphic-card
[07:12] <epsilon_> (2 vivabenfica )
[07:12] <epsilon_> 1. install 1 linux only
[07:12] <epsilon_> 2. delete that partition but backup it first with dd
[07:12] <epsilon_> 3. have 4 pri: win, linux, linux, unknown and swap, home as ext. (it's okay that way)
[07:12] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - called toshiba and they actually answered the phone and the guy said that 300MB partition is a "ghost" partition for the recovery CD.
[07:12] <[gen2] niki> can someone tell me if I can a ralink usb 54mbit adapter as wlan gateway?
[07:13] <[gen2] niki> so that other comps can use the comp to go into internet
[07:13] <XP1> saxin, my graphics card is onboard, do i still have to install it?
[07:13] <jbroome> [gen2] niki: need to see if that chipset will support host_ap
[07:14] <T-R-X> !help
[07:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:14] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - that's 5, because extended counts as a primary (basically i understand extended as a primary that is further subdivided into logical partitions)
[07:14] <T-R-X> !alsa
[07:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:14] <epsilon_> sorry vivabenfica firefox froze
[07:14] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - what's the deal with the underscore anyway?
[07:15] <ProN00b> damn, with flash9 my sound gets stuck from time to time, anyone having the same problem ?
[07:15] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ you are hungarian?
[07:15] <epsilon_> vivabenfica i didnt see what you wrote
[07:15] <epsilon_> only that u called toshiba
[07:15] <epsilon_> yes i am :)
[07:15] <androide79> ciao a tutti
[07:15] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ know who is Feher the football player who died?
[07:15] <klm-> my acer 3620 laptop (and more precisely its hard drive) starts to make some 'screeking' noise when I turn off the display light (Fn + F4). The sound is quite subtle but hearable from a few meters away. Any ideas why this could be and how to stop it?
[07:16] <epsilon_> vivabenfica i dont watch football but i heard of that accident
[07:16] <epsilon_> vivabenfica he had some heart problem :)
[07:16] <androide79> qualche una parla l'italiano????????
[07:16] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ he was playing for my team, Benfica
[07:16] <epsilon_> androide89 try an italian ubuntu channel
[07:17] <epsilon_> vivabenfica really? :S :S
[07:17] <epsilon_> a foreign team? :) so its your fav
[07:17] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ i said before your recommendation made a total of 5 primary partitions
[07:17] <epsilon_> vivabenfica you can backup that ghost thing
[07:17] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ my wife is Portuguese, and I lived there for 4 years
[07:17] <epsilon_> BUT swap can be logical too! and the home partition
[07:18] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - ghost thing is hidden even from linux
[07:18] <epsilon_> vivabenfica ok :)
[07:18] <epsilon_> so: primary: windows, ghost thing, linux, linux
[07:18] <epsilon_> extended-logical: home (20 gb for docs&prefs), swap (2gb)
[07:18] <epsilon_> is it OK? it must be.
[07:19] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - ghost (1), winxp (2), linux boot 1 (3), linux boot 2 (4). where is space for another partition? :)
[07:19] <inc|freaky> hi all. i have a problem upgrading to edgy. i cant completely upgrade some courier packages make problems: http://www.nopaste.linux-beginner.org/?179 can someone help me?
[07:19] <witless> or just install linux, download the free vmware, and install your other OS's in VM's
[07:20] <epsilon_> vivabenfica every linux installer has a partitioner you can add,delete or resize partitions with them (with suse afaik you cant resize)
[07:20] <T-R-X> any1 here that solved cmedia sound cards and 5.1 sound ? ( working bass and center, not only the 4channel mode -> in alsa is only 4 chanel switch ) ?
[07:20] <savvas> inc|freaky: do this first: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f
[07:20] <inc|freaky> i did that.
[07:20] <vivabenfica> epsilon_  - i am aware of that, it is the limitation of 4 primary partitions that is my problem
[07:21] <Tarandus> Does anyone know if a Savage driver with the Freedesktop bug 6357 fixed will soon come to Edgy?
[07:21] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - i've some experience back to RH8 days :)
[07:21] <vivabenfica> witless - not big on vm
[07:21] <epsilon_> vivabenfica 4 primary and you can't make another extended?
[07:21] <epsilon_> !search linux boot
[07:21] <savvas> inc|freaky: oh sorry, this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall courier-authdaemon
[07:21] <ubotu> Found: kernel,google,ubotu,grub,firewall,boot,laptop,mol,alsa-source,ntfs-3g
[07:21] <grant> hey guys please help got a bit of a problem here, installed the nvidia beta drivers and now getting the following error at boot "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this module has version 1.0-9625" please help
[07:21] <inc|freaky> that doesnt work.
[07:21] <epsilon_> !search extended
[07:21] <ubotu> Found:
[07:21] <epsilon_> pff.
[07:21] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ extended is counted as a primary. just a subdivided primary
[07:22] <savvas> grant: try restart your pc
[07:22] <grant> savvas, hi, that is when i restart the pc, have had to go into maintainence etc just to get into x to get into irc
[07:22] <epsilon_> vivabenfica then i'm the stupid one not you.
[07:22] <epsilon_> IMHO linux CAN boot from extended partitions why not?
[07:23] <epsilon_> !boot
[07:23] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions  -  To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d  -  To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local  -  See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy  -  Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:23] <epsilon_> vivabenfica use ubotu its  very intelligent :)
[07:23] <savvas> grant, why did you install the beta ones by the way?
[07:23] <epsilon_> !ubotu | vivabenfica
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vivabenfica - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <Kazero> Whats the console line to change ubuntu in kubuntu?
[07:24] <Kazero> sudo apt-get install kubuntu?
[07:24] <inc|freaky> savvas: do u have any other ideas?
[07:24] <Alzi2_> Hey. Is it possible to install Kubuntu/Xubuntu from the Ubuntu LiveCD? I don't want to download another ISO AGAIN...|
[07:24] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ will try that, thanks.
[07:24] <inc|freaky> kubuntu-desktop is it i think
[07:24] <epsilon_> can linux boot from a logical partition?
[07:25] <Kazero> Sweet, thanks. By the way, whats Xubuntu?
[07:25] <savvas> inc|freaky: when you reinstall it, try the install -f again
[07:25] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ think it must be primary
[07:25] <inc|freaky> savvas: it all doesnt work ive tried both allready
[07:25] <epsilon_> vivabenfica wait hope that some1 answers :)
[07:25] <Lone> kazero: xubuntu is a 'light' version of ubuntu that is lighter on sys reqs
[07:25] <inc|freaky> http://www.nopaste.linux-beginner.org/?180
[07:25] <epsilon_> please: can linux boot from a logical partition? (yes/no)
[07:25] <savvas> grant: better use the stable nvidia-glx package, unless you know what you're doing, i'd suggest to type in terminal this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx
[07:26] <ifireball> epsilon_: yes.
[07:26] <strappis> ciao a tutti
[07:26] <epsilon_> thx ifireball.
[07:26] <epsilon_> vivabenfica you see? :)
[07:26] <savvas> inc|freaky: you mean you can't reinstall it?
[07:26] <inc|freaky> the error is here: http://www.nopaste.linux-beginner.org/?180 @ savvas
[07:26] <Kazero> Ah. Now im new to linux, whats X-Desktop?
[07:27] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - worth a try i suppose
[07:27] <ubuntugrrrrr> oh good gracious.. this thing has been left on all night -.-
[07:27] <Lone> kazero: kde uses the k desktop environment, xubuntu is just a simpler desktop interface so it runs faster
[07:27] <ifireball> vivabenfica: as long as you have a smart enough boot loader on your MBR; e.g. GRUB, otherwise you have no way of telling your PC to boot that partition
[07:27] <epsilon_> vivabenfica so make a home partition and make BOTH linuxes mount it as a home dir.
[07:27] <Lone> kazero: the k desktop environment is a lot more like windows as opposed to GNOME, which is more like mac (imo)
[07:28] <inc|freaky> hi all. i have a problem upgrading to edgy (courier packages): http://www.nopaste.linux-beginner.org/?180 can someone help me?
[07:28] <epsilon_> vivabenfica and make a swap and make BOTH linuxes use it as swap.
[07:28] <epsilon_> anyway why do you need suse and ubuntu too?
[07:28] <savvas> inc|freaky: sudo apt-get install courier-authlib && sudo apt-get install --reinstall courier-authdaemon
[07:28] <RawSewage> does ogg audio have meta-tags?
[07:28] <vivabenfica> epsilon_, ifireball: if linux can boot from logical partitions then many solutions are possible. will try it. thank you.
[07:28] <RawSewage> if not, why?
[07:28] <Kazero> Im actually writing an amateur article on a Windows users first look at linux. I found that gnome actually looks like a mixture of Mac OS and Windows.
[07:28] <tjb891> recently wine will not run when i click on a windows file and instead i now get a "o open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "DOS/Windows executable", then open the file normally" message?
[07:29] <savvas> inc|freaky: if that doesn't work, try reinstalling: sudo apt-get install --reinstall courier-authlib && sudo apt-get install --reinstall courier-authdaemon
[07:29] <abhinay> hi all
[07:29] <epsilon_> vivabenfica have a nice time. :)
[07:29] <huntedgod> hi, does anybody know of a problem whit beryl that keeps changeing windowz size all the bloody time?!?!?!?
[07:29] <RawSewage> Ask in #Ubuntu-XGL
[07:29] <inc|freaky> savvas: both dont work.
[07:29] <julian_> how do i install beryl in edgy
[07:29] <inc|freaky> (both lines)
[07:29] <RawSewage> !beryl
[07:29] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:30] <savvas> inc|freaky: can you show me the error please?
[07:30] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ thanks
[07:30] <RawSewage> CAn I add meta info to ogg audio files?
[07:30] <Lone> I have an 80 GB hard drive with Ubuntu installed, but I also have another 80 GB hard drive installed. Is there any way to combine them in a RAID setup without reinstalling?
[07:30] <inc|freaky> savvas: its the "error processing package courier-authdaemon package in inconsistent state reinstall before removal" one.
[07:30] <epsilon_> !raid
[07:30] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:31] <rooti1> how can i check if my nvidia drivers are working correctly now ? is there a test or benchmark ?
[07:31] <epsilon_> rootil: glxgears
[07:31] <savvas> inc|freaky: is the courier-authlib installed now?
[07:31] <inc|freaky> savvas: no both dont work
[07:31] <RawSewage> rooti1, when you restart x, you should see the NVIDdia logo
[07:31] <abhinay> I'm not getting @ 85 Hz frequency with 1024x768 resolution , This is 17' monitor , my lspci ouput.
[07:31] <huntedgod> hi, does anybody know of a problem whit beryl that keeps changeing windows size all the bloody time?
[07:31] <RawSewage> !beryl
[07:31] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:31] <n1gke> Good afternoon folks. . . Finally, home from work.....
[07:31] <savvas> hm..
[07:31] <tjb891> can anyone tell me why wine dosen't run automatically anymore?
[07:31] <roryy> rooti1: also 'glxinfo|grep direct' (should get 'direct rendering: Yes')
[07:31] <abhinay> Do i need to install drivers ?
[07:31] <savvas> inc|freaky: might i ask how did you install that package without dependencies in the first place? :P
[07:32] <RawSewage> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[07:32] <abhinay> my lspci output is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30203/
[07:32] <MEPISUser> I'm trying to install a Lexmark X2480 printer. I can't find any drivers... can anyone help me?
[07:32] <tjb891> nevermind, i found out
[07:32] <inc|freaky> savvas: i dont know i did: apt-get dist-upgrade after changing dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:32] <MEPISUser> Hello?
[07:33] <stefan__> hi .. ive just installed edgy kubuntu... problem: i cant install stuff from multiverse like w32codecs although i added entries to sources.list properly. also tried various archives like de and nl ... any idea?
[07:33] <savvas> inc|freaky: first you do dist-upgrade, then switch to edgy
[07:33] <MEPISUser> I'm trying to install a Lexmark X2480 printer. I can't find any drivers... can anyone help me?
[07:33] <georgeb> savvas: hmm.. don't you have to run apt-get update first, to update from repos ?
[07:34] <dcraven> stefan__, sudo apt-get update
[07:34] <inc|freaky> savvas: you do a upgrade to edgy by doing that. and since i tried to upgrade i get that error the kernel cant be booted too but i now use a rescue system from the network
[07:34] <savvas> georgeb: he already did that
[07:34] <inc|freaky> of course i did apt-get update before
[07:34] <epsilon_> stefan__ try to enable them in synaptic menu "software sources" (or what im not english)
[07:34] <stefan__> dcraven: yep.. already tried it, also apt-get clean.. still doesnt work
[07:34] <savvas> it's a weird mess, i don't really know what to suggest :\
[07:35] <savvas> inc|freaky: try downloading the alternate cd and updating from there
[07:35] <roryy> stefan__: i think you'll need a non-official repository (e.g., seveas') for w32codecs
[07:35] <epsilon_> !restrictedformats
[07:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:35] <MEPISUser> At the risk of sounding like a broken record:
[07:35] <MEPISUser> I'm trying to install a Lexmark X2480 printer. I can't find any drivers... can anyone help me?
[07:35] <dcraven> stefan__, is w32codecs even in the repos?
[07:35] <fiveiron> ok here's a q... lets say I want to have my users home directories be on a separate volume.  what would the best way to do that be?
[07:35] <epsilon_> stefan__, see THAT
[07:36] <stefan__> its not only the w32codecs , also other stuff.. it always says that theres no installation candidate
[07:36] <fiveiron> change the home dir with vipw?
[07:36] <elias_> how can I recover a file which has been deleted on a reiserfs partition?
[07:36] <dcraven> stefan__, do you have another example handy?
[07:37] <Zambezi> I'm trying to umount two harddrives, but they are busy. Is it just to turn off the computer with sudo halt -p? I don't want to do anything stupid.
[07:37] <zlack> how would I go about running a .bin file?
[07:37] <dcraven> zlack, chmod +x myfile, then ./myfile should do it.
[07:37] <epsilon_> zlack, maybe its not runnable
[07:38] <zlack> Zambezi: is there a process/program using the disks ?
[07:38] <zlack> epsilon_: it should be runnable
[07:38] <dcraven> zlack, he's asking whether or not it has executable permissions.
[07:38] <epsilon_> zlack then the above should do or simply: bash stg.bin
[07:38] <zlack> chmodding did the trick - thanks
[07:38] <stefan__> dcraven: .. cant remember what it was.. because i followed instructions on a page.. but ill look it up
[07:39] <Zambezi> zlack, I'm not sure. I moved all the files from the harddrives with sudo cp-r to another hardrive and then I ran sudo rm-r on the folder (I had just one folder) and then now they are both busy.
[07:39] <dcraven> stefan__, if you added the extra repos properly (as you say), and the update worked, then it's possible that the package you are looking for just isn't in the repository.
[07:39] <Zambezi> zlack, The harddrives I moved the files to wasn't busy.
[07:40] <stefan__> dcraven: ok.. im sorry.. i thought w32 was in the repositories.. it isnt..
[07:40] <zlack> Zambezi: do a ps ax and check if there is a possible program that could use those discs
[07:41] <epsilon_> bye-bye
[07:41] <stefan__> dcraven: anyway.. thanks.
[07:41] <dcraven> stefan__, s'ok. I didn't know it either.
[07:41] <zlack> anyone ever played
[07:41] <zlack> planeshift over here?
[07:42] <Trenty> Help!
[07:42] <Trenty> How do I edit my etc/fstab file?
[07:42] <dcraven> Trenty, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:42] <roryy> Trenty: carefully ;)
[07:42] <dcypherd> i have decided not to upgrade to edgy yet but i can't install anything thru until i upgrade how to i swith it back
[07:42] <MEPISUser> At the risk of sounding like a broken record again:
[07:42] <MEPISUser> I'm trying to install a Lexmark X2480 printer. I can't find any drivers... can anyone help me?
[07:42] <dcraven> Trenty, yeah, back it up (make a copy) first.
[07:43] <MEPISUser> Please?
[07:43] <Kazero> You know the update icon that shows up in gnome when updates are avalible? What does KDE do when updates are avalible?
[07:43] <dcypherd> mepis user have you installed cups
[07:43] <dcypherd> ?
[07:43] <MEPISUser> Kazero, Nothing.
[07:43] <Trenty> thanks
[07:43] <Kazero> MEPISUser: So how do you know if there are updates avalible?
[07:44] <MEPISUser> Kazero, apt-get update?
[07:44] <Kazero> Yes, but a new linux user wouldnt know that.
[07:44] <MEPISUser> Kazero, synaptic or kpackage?
[07:44] <elias_> the problem is, the file was downloaded via firefox and somehow resided in /tmp when it was edited via openoffice writer. after saving it, it disappeared.
[07:44] <dcypherd> i have an upgrade question
[07:45] <Kazero> MEPISUser: I have no idea what you just asked
[07:45] <Zambezi> zlack, I can't see the drive there.
[07:45] <dcypherd> MEPISUser open a terminal
[07:45] <mister_roboto> Kazero: you also get an update icon in kde
[07:46] <dcypherd> upgrade question ne one
[07:46] <Kazero> mister_roboto: Where does it show up? Its for my article, I accidentally updated in gnome and now I cant report where the icon is in KDE :(
[07:46] <dcypherd> i have decided not to upgrade to edgy yet but i can't install anything thru synaptic until i upgrade... how do i swith it back
[07:47] <Alex> hi - anyone know the best way to request a package to be created?
[07:47] <dcypherd> *switch
[07:47] <dcraven> dcypherd, switch what back to what?
[07:47] <Rondom> !UniverseCandidates
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about UniverseCandidates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <dcypherd> dcraven: so that it doesn't ask me to install all the stuff for edgy
[07:47] <ifireball> is there GUI tool to change the bitrate/compression/etc of an mp3 file?
[07:48] <mister_roboto> Kazero: it shows up in the "system tray" area (lower right)
[07:48] <Tonren> Hey guys, I was installing using gksu "update-manager -c", but it errored out.  Now that I'm doing it via command line, how do I test to make sure everything is properly installed?
[07:48] <Tonren> I'm terrified to restart.
[07:48] <roryy> dcypherd: assuming you haven't installed anything at all from edgy, you can change your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at 'dapper' instead of 'edgy', run 'apt-get update' and you should be ok
[07:48] <gourdin> http://pastebin.co.uk/5117
[07:48] <gourdin> anyone got a clue ?
[07:48] <mister_roboto> ls
[07:48] <dcypherd> ok thx very much
[07:48] <dcraven> dcypherd, what roryy said.
[07:49] <dcypherd> exactly what ineeded
[07:49] <mister_roboto> ls
[07:49] <Tonren> dcypherd: Watch out... that's what I did, and it's gone horribly wrong.
[07:49] <dcraven> Tonren, does sudo aptitude dist-upgrade do anything?
[07:50] <Tonren> dcraven: Presumably.  I know you're supposed to run it to upgrade successfully.
[07:50] <dcypherd> have you installed edgy Tonren?
[07:50] <dcraven> Tonren, if he didn't install any packages as Edgy, then it won't have any affect on his (dcypherd's) system.
[07:50] <dcypherd> bcuz i haven't
[07:50] <Tonren> dcraven: I haven't installed any packages as Edgy, but it still broke.   Any way to fix them?
[07:52] <madzia> re
[07:52] <Kazero> Heres an odd question for you, besides visual appearence, whats the diffrence between using KDE and gnome?
[07:52] <DESiBELi> Nevermind..
[07:53] <dcypherd> dcraven: can i just do a search and replace in my sources.list of edgy for dapper?
[07:53] <dcypherd> i've made a backup
[07:53] <CREWMAN_peppe> hi everybody boys
[07:53] <dcraven> dcypherd, yes.
[07:53] <dcypherd> kewl
[07:53] <CREWMAN_peppe> a little help: i have damaged my original sources.list in my Edgy Eft
[07:53] <CREWMAN_peppe> where can i find a new one?
[07:53] <dcraven> Tonren, I think that samba deb is the Edgy version, no?
[07:53] <lufis> Can anyone assist me in allowing a UDP port so that DHT in Azureus will work?
[07:54] <jrib> !sources > CREWMAN_peppe
[07:54] <Tonren> dcraven: I found a fix for the brokenness on the forums.  There was a "dangling symlink".
[07:54] <CREWMAN_peppe> jrib excuse me
[07:54] <dcraven> Tonren, okay good.
[07:54] <jrib> CREWMAN_peppe: did ubotu send you a private message?
[07:54] <CREWMAN_peppe> yes
[07:54] <CREWMAN_peppe> why?
[07:55] <jrib> CREWMAN_peppe: because I asked him to tell you about 'sources', you may wish to respond with "easysource" for him to tell you about that
[07:55] <CREWMAN_peppe> ok but my ubuntu is italian and all sources starts with http://it..... is the same thing if i put here?
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> Kazero: Different default applications.  Under the hood, QT vs. GTK, not that that really matters on the user end.  Basically, not much
[07:55] <jrib> CREWMAN_peppe: yes, you can use any two letter country code you wish
[07:55] <skiy> Hello all, I have recently install edgy (New installation) and many applications have problems with sound (The sound plays fast and skips) the same way in almost every application
[07:55] <jrib> CREWMAN_peppe: not in front of security.ubuntu.com though, only for archive.ubuntu.com
[07:56] <CREWMAN_peppe> and if i use another country repository, is the same thing or i loose language???
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> jrib: I don't know that we have repos in _every_ country ;)
[07:56] <skiy> rhythmbox does not have this problem, neither does realplayer
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> CREWMAN_peppe: same thing
[07:56] <CREWMAN_peppe> italy is very famous
[07:56] <jrib> CREWMAN_peppe: the it. just says to use servers in italy
[07:56] <[GuS] > CREWMAN_peppe, there are only mirrors
[07:56] <[GuS] > all repos have the same packages
[07:56] <CREWMAN_peppe> ok very good
[07:57] <CREWMAN_peppe> thank you very much
[07:57] <dcraven> CREWMAN_peppe, they are just geographically dispersed servers. In general it's better (faster?) to use the one nearest you.
[07:57] <Kazero> Can I grab files off my linux distro from a Windows machine on the same network?
[07:57] <CREWMAN_peppe> in italy fast servers?? No isn't correct
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> dcraven: In general.  The North America ones are a bit flighty, so I've had more luck with Ireland's - go figure
[07:57] <llvllatrix> CREWMAN_peppe: I believe language is a function of your locate, not your server
[07:57] <CREWMAN_peppe> for your information, italy is the slowest country in the world speaking about internet
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Kazero: Look into samba for sharing with Windows
[07:57] <CREWMAN_peppe> !sources
[07:57] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:58] <Lattyware> In a bash script, how can I only output part of string that matches a regular expression?
[07:58] <dcraven> Well hence the "in general" part I guess :). That's the idea of mirrors.
[07:58] <CREWMAN_peppe> !easysource
[07:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:58] <Kazero> Bah. Im trying to get a screenshot of Linux in VMware, but it keeps saving the shot in linux
[07:58] <mister_roboto> Kazero: different ipc technologies underneath is one diff. see this page. it's interesting: http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/qtcontroversy.html
[07:59] <Arrick_Sleeping> tonyyarusso, morning
[07:59] <trelayne> hi all, just installed Dapper. ANyone know how to enable ssh from remote?
[07:59] <Arrick_Sleeping> long time no see
[07:59] <jrib> trelayne: install openssh-server
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> Kazero: Try different key combos, ie PrtSc, Alt+PrtSc, Ctrl+PrtSc; no guarantees, but might work
[07:59] <trelayne> thanks
[07:59] <Arrick_Sleeping> tonyyarusso, can I pm you?
[07:59] <jrib> !ssh > trelayne
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> Arrick_Sleeping: Yeah, I've been offtopicing too much.
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> Arrick_Sleeping: sure
[07:59] <CREWMAN_peppe> boys i have to go now, thank you a lot and keep going: you're great and ubuntu is a great distro!!!
[07:59] <CREWMAN_peppe> Bye!!
[08:00] <mister_roboto> trelayne: you need to install openssh-server to allow ssh connections
[08:00] <Lattyware> Anyone?
[08:00] <dcraven> Lattyware, look at string "chopping".
[08:00] <Tonisee> Hello!
[08:00] <Spudulike> Hi room, I only have ssh access to machine foo.  What can I do to configure foo so that I can get a VNC session from it.
[08:00] <MasseR> Does anyone know the exact differences in between ubuntu and edgy, network-wise?
[08:01] <Lattyware> ok, thanks
[08:01] <gcleric> What happened to http://ubuntuforums.org/?  It's offline.
[08:01] <llvllatrix> Spudulike: Install a vnc server
[08:01] <CREWMAN_peppe> oh oh a problem with source o matic: it only generates till dapper distro
[08:01] <trelayne> thanks all
[08:01] <MasseR> *between dapper and edgy
[08:01] <CREWMAN_peppe> solution to this??
[08:01] <Tonisee> I just tried to install Ubuntu Edgy using floppy install as described in docs
[08:01] <MasseR> I had my broadcom 4400 working properly in dapper, but since moving to edgy it isn't working
[08:01] <T-R-X> any1 here that solved cmedia sound cards and 5.1 sound ? ( working bass and center, not only the 4channel mode -> in alsa is only 4 chanel switch ) ?
[08:01] <MasseR> It used kernel 2.6.15
[08:01] <MasseR> Which had it working
[08:01] <MasseR> But manually compiling 2.6.15 kernel doesn't help
[08:02] <MasseR> It still doesn't work
[08:02] <Rav|strangler> The forums are down.
[08:02] <Rav|strangler> So I had to come here to get my fix
[08:02] <rothgar> is there a way to auto-login to edgy with a system account? (mythtv)  I couldn't select it from the Admin-> login srceen menu
[08:02] <gcleric> yea. I can see that.
[08:02] <gcleric> but why?
[08:02] <Tonisee> but i experienced strange problems: after executing /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 /target http://mymirror/ubuntu  it downloaded some stuff.. but then install didn't started
[08:03] <CREWMAN_peppe> oh oh a problem with source o matic: it only generates till dapper distro how can i make them good for Edgy Eft??
[08:03] <Rav|strangler> Maybe maintenance
[08:03] <nlindblad> why are the forums down?
[08:03] <nlindblad> "the forums are offline until further notice."
[08:03] <Rav|strangler> Maybe maintenance
[08:03] <jbroome> that sounds more menacing than "down for maintenance"
[08:03] <Tonisee> is anyone here tried to install Ubuntu via "Debian floppys" way?
[08:04] <dcraven> hehe..   It states that it's down for maintenance.  Until until further notice sounds pretty serious
[08:05] <Rav|strangler> maybe a hacker.
[08:05] <Rav|strangler> I mean a noob
[08:05] <charle97> 'until further notice' seems like forever
[08:05] <Rav|strangler> I'm going to #ubuntu-offtopic before we get yelled at.
[08:05] <Arrick_Sleeping> Anyone here ever setup their own pastebot?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> Hey guys, it's not a support question so let's take the wondering about the forums to -offtopic
[08:05] <Rav|strangler> !offtopic
[08:05] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:06] <maccam94> i want a machine to run a command one time when it starts up, and then never ever again. how do i do this?
[08:06] <Lone> put it in the boot
[08:06] <maccam94> anybody?
[08:06] <eyequeue> the other thing, the message lacks proper capitalization, also making it look less official
[08:07] <Rav|strangler> maccam94,  when the forums come back up try posting there
[08:07] <Rav|strangler> community is pretty quick with replies
[08:07] <Tonisee> Is anyone here successfully installed Ubuntu Edgy (or Dapper) via "Debian floppys" way?
[08:08] <maccam94> Rav|strangler, this is kind of time sensitive lol... i want to get this machine set to do that today so it can go back to the client
[08:08] <maccam94> i want it to reconfigure xserver-xorg one time at boot so it'll work on the client's monitor
[08:08] <CREWMAN_peppe> excuse me! I cannot find a way to use source o matic with Edgy Eft, it only creates Dapper or warty or another. How can i do??? Thanks
[08:08] <coz_> how to enable fastwrites and SBA on edgy nvidia beta>?
[08:08] <francois> hey all, can i install printer drivers for debian on my kubuntu system ?
[08:08] <Rav|strangler> can you change the xserver-xorg
[08:08] <Rav|strangler> and it will load everytime.
[08:08] <maccam94> Rav|strangler, ?
[08:08] <Rav|strangler> I dunno I'm a noob
[08:09] <Rav|strangler> I can try and help you
[08:09] <francois> hey all, can i install printer drivers for debian on my kubuntu system ?
[08:09] <maccam94> Rav|strangler, ah, see Ubuntu autodetects all hardware during the install. I installed Ubuntu on it here at the repair shop, but when it goes back home it needs to be reconfigured to work with the client's monitor. thus i need it to run a command one time at bootup, and then never again
[08:10] <Rav|strangler> ohhh it should recognize her moniter
[08:10] <Nightdrive> CREWMAN: I just installed Automatix2 for edgy. Just googled it and followed instructions
[08:10] <Rav|strangler> I thought we could do that.
[08:10] <jrib> CREWMAN_peppe: create a dapper one and replace all the "dapper" with "edgy"
[08:11] <maccam94> Rav|strangler, no it won't, that is done during the install. It's already been installed, so sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg needs to be run once at bootup
[08:11] <CREWMAN_peppe> very good thank you
[08:11] <rothgar> is there a reason that a system account cannot use the up arrow in a terminal?
[08:11] <hackel_> Anyone familiar with PPTP?  I'm trying to get my connection up, and it comes up the *first* time after I boot, then it disconnects, and after that it won't connect, gets a TCP timeout sending config-requests.  Any ideas?
[08:11] <CREWMAN_peppe> jrib thank you
[08:11] <maccam94> Rav|strangler, last time I checked that is
[08:11] <jrib> CREWMAN_peppe: np
[08:11] <maccam94> Rav|strangler, the last thing i want is an unhappy customer haha
[08:11] <Rav|strangler> try switching monitors and booting it up. I understand that
[08:11] <jrib> rothgar: what do you mean by "system account"?
[08:11] <rothgar> mythtv
[08:12] <hackel_> Anyone familiar with PPTP?  I'm trying to get my connection up, and it comes up the *first* time after I boot, then it disconnects, and after that it won't connect, gets a TCP timeout sending config-requests.  Any ideas?
[08:12] <clandestino> Hi everyone. I can't get a keyboard to work with my laptop. It's a ps/2 keyboard, connected via an ps/2->usb adapter to a usb-port on a thinkpad r52. Since it doesn't work automatically, I guess I have to edit something in xorg.conf, but I don't know where to find good information about this..
[08:12] <Rav|strangler> maccam94, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219059 that should help you once the forums are back up
[08:12] <Rav|strangler> copy and bookmark it
[08:12] <rothgar> I am using the mythtv account (which doesn't show up as a normal account) and when I am usng a terminal I cannot push UP to show the last command
[08:12] <Lattyware> how can I pipe to a variable? sed [regexp]  | echo ???
[08:12] <Rav|strangler> I dont know off hand.
[08:12] <Rav|strangler> keep askinf here.
[08:13] <Rav|strangler> you want to run a command on boot right.?
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> clandestino: You might be able to get away with just running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and seeing if it autodetects.
[08:13] <maccam94> Rav|strangler, will do
[08:13] <clandestino> tonyyarusso: thanks!
[08:13] <macusr> hello
[08:14] <vivabenfica> hi - how much space does ubuntu boot partition need?
[08:14] <macusr> just upgraded Firefox to version 2
[08:14] <Lattyware> how can I pipe to a variable? sed [regexp]  | echo ???
[08:14] <jbroome> vivabenfica: usually 100mb is fine
[08:14] <macusr> and the icon in the bottom menu shows the regular Firefox icon
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> vivabenfica: Very little.  I have 250 MB, but that's for the possibility of a bunch of kernels and splash images.  100 MB is plenty.
[08:14] <kenny> can i install the "Image for desktop and laptop PCs" on a 64bit processor?
[08:14] <dcraven> vivabenfica, depends how many kernels you want to hold onto. Mine's just under 50mb.
[08:14] <witless> how do i get more columns/rows in console mode?
[08:14] <macusr> everywhere else shows the Ubuntu icon, can I make them all the same?
[08:15] <vivabenfica> thanks all
[08:15] <ATR2001> Hi q all
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> witless: set the vga= option in your kernel line in grub either in /boot/grub/menu.lst or for one time use at boot time.
[08:15] <Commander-Crowe> !wireless
[08:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:15] <kenny> hey ... can i install the "Image for desktop and laptop PCs" on a 64bit processor?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> kenny: I think so, but you won't get the advantage of the processor iirc
[08:16] <witless> tonyyarusso: thanks
[08:16] <macusr> just upgraded to Firefox 2, can I change all the icons to the normal Firefox icon that only shows up in the bottm menu bar?
[08:16] <ATR2001> anyone speak german ?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> ATR2001: #ubuntu-de
[08:16] <macusr> my dad does
[08:16] <ATR2001> thx tonyyarusso
[08:17] <vivabenfica> would jbroome, tonyyarusso, or dcraven know whether linux boot and swap partitions can be within an extended partition as logical partitions? i have asked that here before, but answers have conflicted with info online, so i'm unsure, and want to partition this new computer right the 1st time
[08:17] <rob2> what happened to the forum?
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> vivabenfica: swap definitely can; boot I'm not sure about
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> rob2: We don't know yet.
[08:17] <rob2> ah ok
[08:17] <jbroome> omg hax
[08:17] <Lattyware> Anyone know how in a bash script I can take the output from a sed command and then only output What matches my regular expression?
[08:18] <ScurveyFrog> yeah, I was also wondering where the forum went!
[08:18] <skiy> Lattyware: join #bash
[08:18] <francois> Does there exist a generic brother printer driver ?
[08:18] <Lattyware> skiy: Ah, right, thanks.
[08:18] <emanuele11> hi everybody! I'm from Italian Ubuntu 's channel and in Italy servers (apt-get  servers) doesn't work. Do American servers work?
[08:18] <skiy> Lattyware: they are always very helpful in there, esp GreyCat :)
[08:18] <vivabenfica> anyone else know if linux can boot from within an extended partition?
[08:18] <Rav|strangler> emanuele11, the servers might be down
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> emanuele11: Doubtful.  The US servers are often "special".  I'd go with another European country.
[08:19] <macusr> just upgraded to Firefox 2, can I make all the icons use the Firefox icon? not Ubuntu
[08:19] <macusr> Ubuntu's icon?
[08:20] <rothgar> I think he means for html files
[08:20] <skiy> vivabenfica: yes it should be able to, there is no reason why not
[08:20] <Rav|strangler> macusr, when the forums come back up do a search for "firefox icon"
[08:20] <skiy> Grub is pretty flexible vivabenfica
[08:20] <Rav|strangler> you should find the how to
[08:20] <Rav|strangler> I havnt gotten around to changing it. it doesnt bother me too much
[08:21] <macusr> how long do you think the forums will be down for?
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> vivabenfica: I also would suspect that it can, I just haven't tried it
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> macusr: No idea.
[08:21] <qc-> does anyone here run xgl with ubuntu?
[08:21] <macusr> =(
[08:21] <Kazero> Ok, I cant figure out for the life of me how to install from a tar.gz file.
[08:21] <rob2> wonder if the servers are run on windows? would explain why they're broken ;)
[08:21] <emanuele11> so, in America they work or no? (I don't know English well)
[08:21] <Kazero> Anyone who can help me?
[08:21] <bola> so this is the great ubuntu channel :D
[08:21] <Rav|strangler> maccam94,  you still around?
[08:21] <Rav|strangler> bola,  you know it
[08:21] <shaninho> hello ...
[08:22] <tar_> Have other people been experiencing fun little crashes since upgrading to Edgy?
[08:22] <jbroome> that's a feature
[08:23] <grigora> hi, set up a couple extra keyboard layout and switch between them using the Alt Keys, however, if I change my windows manager (to fvwm) the Alt keys don't work anymore, anyone knows how to switch layouts in FVWM? thanks
[08:23] <bola> i want to congratulate the guys on the canonical :D
[08:23] <rob2> I managed to corrupt my user profile after I upgraded, spent 2 days wondering what to do then it suddenly came to me in the lavvy & I fixed it in 2 minutes
[08:23] <macusr> I tried to upgrade Ubuntu using Software Update and just got kernel panics on startup =(
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> rob2: What did it need?
[08:23] <Tonren> I've run apt-get dist-upgrade eight times.
[08:24] <rob2> a new profile, it got stuck in a loop trying to mount a windows network share
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> Most problems with Edgy upgrades have been due to improperly configured systems going in and/or improper upgrade procedures.  Make sure before doing any upgrades that you read the instructions for doing so, and have a clean system free of modifications from things like automatix, as they will give you headaches otherwise.
[08:25] <shaninho> has anyone here installed ubuntu on a mac pro?
[08:27] <dcraven> The forums are back online fyi.
[08:27] <georgeb> vivabenfica: you can; the only problem WAS: "When using IDE disks, the boot partition (the partition with the bootable kernel image files) must be completely within the first 1024 cylinders" ; now this problem doesn't exist anymore
[08:27] <Nightdrive> I got a problem with Bluetooth Kb and Mouse. Every boot I have to terminal: sudo hidd --search   I've tried every how to guide to get it run at startup, but no success. Help!
[08:28] <knut_> hello
[08:28] <rob2> yep forum is back, shame I can't remember what I wanted to look for on there :D
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Nightdrive: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh perhaps?
[08:28] <knut_> need help with ifconfig.. i try to configure my network card but it doesnt work.. im connectet with a router
[08:29] <knut_> network card is known, but i can not ping my router
[08:30] <Nightdrive> tonyyarusso: I'll go and investigate /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh now
[08:30] <Indigo42> Hey all, Is there a place I can find out if my pcmcia wireless adapter is supported in ubuntu?
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> !wifi : Indigo42
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi : Indigo42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <Indigo42> !wifi
[08:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Doh.  That was supposed to be a |
[08:31] <fishsticks> Indigo42, I have had decent success with pcmcia wireless in ubuntu
[08:31] <sizzam> Indigo42: try this page:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[08:32] <gavinbaker> !restricted
[08:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:33] <pumpkinhead> will using a router increase online security?
[08:33] <Arrick> Anyone here able to help finish the configuration of a pastebot that was written in perl, thats running on Ubuntu breezy?
[08:33] <jinzo> pumpkinhead, probbably
[08:34] <pumpkinhead> tks jinzo
[08:34] <n1gke> pumpkinhead, Yes!
[08:34] <jinzo> if it's configured good... it's harder for a hacker ti hack any boxes behind it
[08:34] <tom_> Where do i find c++ libraries in linux?
[08:34] <witless> tonyyserver: irssi is much better at 1024x768 - thanks
[08:34] <tar_> pumpkinhead: Yes, at least from direct attacks from other computers against network services you have running
[08:35] <eyequeue> pumpkinhead, if it's an insecure router? ;-)  basically that's your answer though, it depends how that router is configured.  incomptent security anywhere is worse than if it were absent
[08:36] <inva|id> why would my system bell work with the 'beep' command, but not the standard \a character?
[08:36] <Delkster> tom_, depends on what libraries you're looking for, but you could search for the "libstdc++" packages in Synaptic and check out the files installed by the libstdc++6 package
[08:37] <Delkster> Those can be found in the package properties
[08:39] <hume> the /etc/init.d/bootsmisc in edgy seems to finish with a ":" - is that right? Where am I to add two lines here? Before the :? before the "esac" that is two lines above? (the guide I am following says it ends with exit 0 but mine doesnt)
[08:39] <hume> bootmisc.sh that is
[08:40] <witless> is there a console-mode program for managing images?
[08:40] <godmachine81> is feisty going to be LTS ?
[08:40] <eyequeue> !info imagemagick
[08:40] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 7:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg1-0.10ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 724 kB, installed size 3168 kB
[08:40] <eyequeue> godmachine81, no
[08:41] <fdoving> hume: what do you want to do in the bootmisc.sh file?
[08:41] <godmachine81> eyequeue:: when is the next lts version going to be released?
[08:41] <eyequeue> godmachine81, feisty+8 maybe?
[08:41] <godmachine81> +8?
[08:41] <godmachine81> 8 more releases?
[08:41] <eyequeue> godmachine81, dapperm is good for 5 years on the server, so sometime less than 5 years from last april
[08:41] <Delkster> He means the 8th release after feisty
[08:41] <hume> fdoving, putting two lines to make pppoe adsl connect at boot, following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[08:42] <fdoving> hume: do that in /etc/rc.local instead.
[08:42] <fdoving> hume: somewhere before 'exit 0'
[08:42] <hume> fdoving, is that new for edgy or same in dapper?
[08:42] <fdoving> hume: same for both.
[08:42] <fdoving> iirc.
[08:42] <hume> fdoving, thx
[08:43] <fdoving> hume: if /etc/rc.local is there, it works on dapper too.. don't have a dapper pc to check.. or..hang on.
[08:43] <Delkster> /etc/rc.local also exists in dapper
[08:43] <fdoving> hume: dapper have it, yes.
[08:43] <Delkster> (I don't have dapper either but I remember)
[08:44] <DanSchnell> Anyone have any idea why I'm having this probelm: The alternate installer won't partition my drive ?
[08:45] <jikanter> nope
[08:48] <captine> anyone here running beryl?
[08:48] <iter> yes
[08:48] <chantra> !beryl
[08:48] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[08:48] <captine> chantra: thnx
[08:48] <chantra> got to try :)
[08:49] <iter> mousewheel near edge of screen is sweet
[08:49] <captine> will go there when in ubuntu -- struggling to get it to work
[08:50] <iter> captine: 1: install edgy 2: install drivers 3: install beryl
[08:50] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to turn off "agpgart"?
[08:50] <gu014> hello, i am having a problem with my bottom launcher panel.  i.e. one of the launchers has "wine /home/sean/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/DVD\ Shrink/DVD\ Shrink\ 3.2.exe" for its command....when i click on the icon nothing happens...however, when i run the same command from the console it loads..would anyone be able to help me out?>
[08:50] <Juz_moi> wanting the shared folders to work, i just installed samba and nfs and had a window saying since I run xinetd I need to manually add something for netbios-ssn  can some one show me what I need to add? there was no xinetd/README.Debian that it refered me to
[08:50] <eyequeue> captine, as long as you realize they support it there but we don't here :)
[08:50] <grndslm> Juz_moi, I used samba the other day and didn't need to use xinetd
[08:50] <chantra> would like to try beryl, but xgl and nvidia does not seem to cooperate properly at the moment :s
[08:51] <jinzo> chantra, it works on my box
[08:51] <jinzo> installed it from the tuturial on berly wiki
[08:51] <jinzo> work's like a charm :)
[08:51] <jinzo> ( it has some bug tho.. )
[08:51] <francois> hey gang, i tried installing a new printer, but it keeps asking authorization but it won't accept my username and password, any help ????
[08:51] <Juz_moi> ok konqueror was already working , but when I whent in the menu (xubuntu( shared folders it insisted on installing those 2  (no one in xubuntu was able to help so I came here
[08:52] <chantra> jinzo: got some weird glitges on mine
[08:52] <jinzo> francois, add your user to the printers "group" ?
[08:52] <grndslm> nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:52] <grndslm> CHANGE:
[08:52] <grndslm> workgroup = MSHOME
[08:52] <grndslm> path = pathgoeshere
[08:52] <grndslm> ?necessary? chmod 0777 /pathgoeshere
[08:52] <grndslm> IF ADDING UNIQUE USER JUST FOR SAMBA:
[08:52] <grndslm> useradd -s /bin/true usergoeshere
[08:52] <grndslm> smbpasswd -L -a usergoeshere
[08:52] <grndslm> smbpasswd -L -e usergoeshere
[08:52] <grndslm> /etc/init.d/samba restart
[08:53] <bene1> hi! my laptop suspends after a few minutes if it's on battery - how can i disable this? (dapper)
[08:53] <Squeee> I'm having a problem with the ati drivers, I'm running 2 monitors with the ATI Big Desktop.  Anytime I run any fullscreen 3d it runs on both monitors, and makes it lag.  Is there any way to make it use one without creating a different screen?
[08:53] <francois> jinzo, where do i do that ?
[08:53] <Juz_moi> it would be something like this:      # default: off
[08:53] <Juz_moi> # description: netbios-ssn
[08:53] <Juz_moi> {
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     disable         = no
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     port            =
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     socket_type     = stream
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     protocol        = tcp
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     wait            = no
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     user            = root
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     server          = /usr/sbin/tcpd
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     server          = /usr/sbin/smbd
[08:53] <Juz_moi>     type            = unlisted
[08:54] <Juz_moi> }
[08:54] <grndslm> Juz_moi, you're supposed to use pastebin
[08:54] <Juz_moi> sorry for the flood
[08:54] <Juz_moi> ok how or is that the name of a channel?
[08:54] <jinzo> francois, you can look at system --> preferences --> users and groups
[08:54] <grndslm> could anybody other than Juz_moi see my samba instructions above???
[08:54] <jinzo> if your user is in souch a group
[08:54] <grndslm> pastebin.ca it's a website
[08:54] <eyequeue> !pastebin > Juz_moi
[08:54] <Arrick> yes
[08:54] <jbroome> i just see something that should have gone in a pastebin
[08:54] <knix> Is there an alternative mirror for the non-free packages on freecontrib.org? Perhaps one of the debian repos?
[08:54] <knix> freecontrib.org is terribly slow
[08:55] <Juz_moi> ok sorry let me look at pastebin
[08:55] <moyogo> hi
[08:55] <eyequeue> !seveas > knix
[08:55] <james__> lovely
[08:55] <moyogo> upgrading to edgy really killed my laptop's usplash
[08:55] <moyogo> i can see anything until I get to gdm
[08:55] <moyogo> i can't* i mean
[08:55] <francois> jinzo, can't seem to find anything named printer in usernames or groups or anything, just fax and scanner
[08:55] <grndslm> does anybody besides Juz_moi see my samba instructions posted above??  just checkin' that they didn't go to the whole channel instead of just him
[08:55] <James_M> has anyone else had new wireless problems since edgy?
[08:55] <moyogo> sometimes it even gets stuck
[08:56] <jinzo> blah was not sure if there is souch a group... ( not in ubuntu atm to check )
[08:56] <moyogo> when i go in recovery mode i can see it's EVMS that gets a bug
 nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:56] <moyogo> anybody familiar with those issues?
[08:56] <Squeee> James_M: Only broadcom
[08:56] <knix> eyequeue: thanks
[08:56] <francois> jinzo, argh, this is tricky
[08:56] <Juz_moi> grndslm:  how do u send that to just me .. I don't see it on that page, yet
[08:56] <eyequeue> knix, np
[08:56] <James_M> only broadcom...hmmm
[08:57] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to prevent a module from loading?
[08:57] <James_M> so most atheros stuff works, yeah?
[08:57] <Squeee> James_M Mine does
[08:57] <iter> !find automake1.9
[08:57] <grndslm> eyequeue, thanks...
[08:57] <ubotu> Found: automake1.9
[08:57] <James_M> squeee, what card do you have?
[08:57] <francois> anyone know how to enable printing authorization for a user in kubuntu ?
[08:57] <Squeee> James_M: Go build the madwifi-ng drivers on your own, they are much more functional
[08:57] <shaninho> I am having trouble building/installing a kernel - can anyone help me or point me to somewhere that can help with this process?
[08:57] <grndslm> Juz_moi, I was trying to msg you, but there were breaks in lines, so it only sent the first one to just you
[08:57] <grndslm> i'll pastebin it
[08:58] <Squeee> james_M: a prism chipset, a broadcom, and an atheros_abg
[08:58] <James_M> squee, this card has worked in every release since breezy with whatever was built into the OS
[08:58] <eyequeue> !kernel > shaninho
[08:58] <[gen2] niki> is there a list of well filled repositorys other than the official ones?
[08:58] <francois> anyone know how to enable printing authorization for a user in kubuntu ?
[08:59] <eegore> is there a pppoe client in dapper?
[08:59] <Squeee> James_M: Really, go try the madwifi drivers, their fairly simple to build and they add alot of functionality to the card
[09:00] <eyequeue> francois, try #kubuntu
[09:00] <shaninho> thanks eyequeue - i'm specifically trying to find out how to install 2.6.19-rc4
[09:00] <James_M> squeee, i don't know how to built anything
[09:00] <James_M> build*
[09:00] <Squeee> You can connect to an access point while you scan, you can even create an access point (not adhoc, an actual access point)
[09:00] <Squeee> James_M: Ask around here
[09:01] <der0b> squeee: have you created an access point before?
[09:01] <Squeee> der0b: are you trying to do it?
[09:01] <James_M> squeee, is there a repo i can use to get it?
[09:01] <der0b> squeee: just wondering about it.  if the signal is comparable to a starndard wireless router I would love to SMASH my netgear
[09:02] <Squeee> James_M, Nope, must be compiled for your kernel
[09:02] <Squeee> Der0b: http://madwifi.org/wiki/ngFeatures, have at testing it
[09:02] <der0b> Thanks :)
[09:02] <lalox> buenas...
[09:02] <Squeee> no problem :D
[09:02] <lalox> hi.. anybody from venezuela??
[09:03] <Kream> is it safe to delete /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin
[09:03] <karl> in dapper, my 1gig flash card was treated as a "camera" and ran the command specified on the "import digital photographs when connected" specified in preferences.
[09:03] <Kream> ?
[09:03] <bene1> hi! my laptop suspends after a few minutes if it's on battery - how can i disable this? (dapper)
[09:03] <karl> in edgy, it' sbeing treated as removable storage, anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[09:03] <jerp> I love this stuff man!!
[09:03] <saxin> jerp: what?
[09:04] <James_M> squeee, do I get the code via subversion?
[09:04] <jerp> saxin,  I'm just having a moment of gratefulness
[09:04] <James_M> or by HTTP?
[09:04] <Squeee> James_M: http if possible, svn is going to be experimental
[09:04] <saxin> jerp: great :-)
[09:05] <Squeee> james_M: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Releases/0.9.2
[09:05] <attah> ok.. i've got a annoying problem.. a shellscrip installer gives me "..serup.sh: 9: function: not found x86" generic kernel problem?
[09:05] <schmirgo> does anyone know where i can find the default options of the kernel in ubuntu?(edgy)
[09:06] <jerp> I'm not much into Linux, but I like what I see in Ubuntu
[09:06] <Mez> !ops
[09:06] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:06] <Juz_moi> grndslm:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30204/    <--- is that the way I should do it?
[09:06] <eyequeue> schmirgo, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 74645 2006-10-13 16:13 /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:06] <pete> Had a quick look through the FAQ, and couldn't find it: Roughly how long does the Dapper-Edgy upgrade take on a 2.2mbps connection, 1.3GHz 256MB RAM?
[09:07] <schmirgo> eyequeue, thanks ;)
[09:07] <godmachine81> anybody in here using azureus in edgy?
[09:08] <jerp> pete, find a server that is close to your location, that will improve speed
[09:08] <godmachine81> just wondering if the window icon isnt working for anyone else.. the icon that goes in your systray and on the window handle
[09:08] <grahamldlw> can someone tell me how to open a file in the terminal, say a pascal code file, so i can run it on the terminal?
[09:08] <iter> pete: 30 mins to upgrade, then anywhere from 0-10 hours of troubleshooting
[09:08] <pete> jerp: Yeah, I know that, I just want to know roughly how long it'll take to know if I should leave my machine on overnight or not.
[09:08] <attah> any ideas on why a shellscript installer gives me "..serup.sh: 9: function: not found x86" generic kernel problem?
[09:08] <pete> iter: heh. I'll take your word for it and hope for the best, then =P
[09:09] <schmirgo> grahamldlw, try nano <filename> ... without brackets ;)
[09:09] <jerp> pete, most servers are using their ftp so it's going to be slow by default  with me- olemiss U to GA took about 30 min
[09:09] <pete> Alright. Thanks.
[09:09] <karl> how come launchpad only has 19 bugs reported for edgy?
[09:10] <jerp> I have a t1 cable amd64 system
[09:10] <grahamldlw> it brought up some nano thing but what does that do and how do i use it?
[09:10] <eyequeue> nano (1)             - Nano's ANOther editor, an enhanced free Pico clone
[09:10] <iter> pete: you might also consider grabbing the edgy iso and installing fresh from it
[09:10] <iter> many fewer issues reported that way
[09:10] <schmirgo> grahamldlw, that will start a text editor. its like the gedit or kate
[09:10] <pete> Hm.
[09:10] <grahamldlw> but isnt there a way to just run it through the terminal
[09:11] <grahamldlw> i've seen it done b4 but cant remember how
[09:11] <epsilon_> /me is here and ready to help you.
[09:11] <pete> iter: I'm lazy. Totally reinstalling Ubuntu requires too much effort =P
[09:11] <iter> grahamldlw: chmod +x filename && ./filename
[09:11] <grahamldlw> huh???
[09:11] <karl> is launchpad really the way to report bugs against ubuntu?
[09:11] <iter> pete: assuming there is zero troubleshooting you're right
[09:11] <jbroome> yes
[09:11] <eyequeue> !bugs
[09:11] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:11] <karl> it says "all bugs ever reported" is 271, seems horribly light on info, and has bugs with ids in the 60k plus id
[09:12] <iter> grahamldlw: what do you mean by "run it on the terminal"
[09:12] <iter> execute the file like a .exe?
[09:12] <Kream> is it safe to delete /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin ?
[09:12] <iter> or edit the file like notepad
[09:12] <grahamldlw> so it tells me if it's working or not, compile it
[09:12] <sethk> grahamldlw, you seem to be confused.  a file such as you mentioned is a source code file for a programming language.  You can change it with an editor, and of course you can compile it, and then run it.
[09:13] <sethk> grahamldlw, you may be thinking of an IDE, which is a program that wraps an editor, and compiler, and such into an easy to use interface
[09:13] <grahamldlw> yes i want to know how to compile and run it on the terminal
[09:13] <iter> you want to compile with pascal ?
[09:13] <grahamldlw> i know that it's source code
[09:13] <attah> anyone got any ideas on why a shellscript installer gives me "..serup.sh: 9: function: not found x86" generic kernel problem?
[09:13] <sethk> grahamldlw, you can use, say, emacs, or vim, both of which allow you to compile from within the editor
[09:13] <iter> compile with what
[09:13] <grahamldlw> it was done on the terminal i know that for a fact
[09:13] <TRX> any1 got experience with 6channel sound ? (bass and center mainly)
[09:13] <eyequeue> grahamldlw, have you installed some pascal compiler?
[09:13] <james_M> squeee, I have the madwifi-0.9.2, but when I cd to the directory and use make, it tells me my kernel is wrong
[09:13] <grahamldlw> yes
[09:13] <sethk> grahamldlw, it's the "it" that is in question here, not whether it can be done from a terminal
[09:13] <grahamldlw> right...
[09:14] <sethk> grahamldlw, as I said, both vim and emacs allow you to edit, compile, and run, from a terminal session
[09:14] <eyequeue> grahamldlw, the source code is input to that compiler then
[09:14] <iter> yeah it's a bit difficult to understand what you're trying to do
[09:14] <sethk> grahamldlw, those are the ones that come to mind in this environment
[09:14] <Kream> is it safe to delete /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin ?
[09:14] <Squeee> james_m: Type sudo apt-get install module-assistant.  after that is done type "sudo m-a prepare,update"
[09:14] <grahamldlw> my source code that i have for pascal, can be put on to the terminal, compiled and then run, i've had it shown to me before
[09:14] <sethk> grahamldlw, most IDEs are GUI only; vim and emacs are the only ones I can think of, at the moment, that do what you are saying from a terminal
[09:14] <eyequeue> grahamldlw, the documentation for your compiler should explain how
[09:15] <sethk> grahamldlw, you can run the compiler from the command line, sure, and then run the compiled program.
[09:15] <grahamldlw> this has made a relatively easy thing extreamly complicated
[09:15] <sethk> grahamldlw, is that what you mean?
[09:15] <james_M> couldn
[09:15] <iter> ok this is now way offtopic
[09:15] <sethk> grahamldlw, what's compilcated?  I told you, emacs and vim can both do what you are asking.
[09:15] <james_M> squeee, couldn't find package
[09:15] <grahamldlw> ok i dont rele use linux it's purely by chance im stuck with this now so i barely know any commands for the termianal as it is
[09:15] <grahamldlw> terminal*
[09:15] <sethk> james_M, package exists, check your list of repositories.
[09:16] <sethk> grahamldlw, so?  you can't manage to type:    emacs filename?
[09:16] <grahamldlw> and it was a built in compiler, not a seperate program that i downloaded
[09:16] <sethk> grahamldlw, or,   vim filename?
[09:16] <grahamldlw> nope
[09:16] <sethk> grahamldlw, no such thing
[09:16] <james_M> sethk, what am I looking for?
[09:16] <grahamldlw> wanna bet?
[09:16] <sethk> grahamldlw, nothing is "built in".  some things are installed by default.
[09:16] <sethk> grahamldlw, indeed, I do.
[09:16] <SmoothOp> when will flash be up to date with linux?
[09:16] <karl> gpc *.pas && ./something ?
[09:16] <sethk> grahamldlw, since I know and you don't.
[09:16] <eyequeue> grahamldlw, there is no "built-in" pascal compiler
[09:16] <karl> that will compile and run from the commandline.
[09:16] <loufoque> I just had a strange problem, it seems nautilus or gnome-panel crashed and the icons I had in my system tray don't appear anymore. Yet they're still running.
[09:16] <Squeee> james_M: go to ubuntuguide.org, and get your repository list from there
[09:17] <vivabenfica> hi all - which ubuntu cd would i use to manually partition /, /boot, /home, /usr, /var, and /tmp separately. i am using ubuntu 6.06-1 (live/install cd) as we speak, and it does not allow for all of these as separate partitions
[09:17] <sethk> james_M, the packages for madwifi, I think you were asking about?
[09:17] <grahamldlw> as i had it told to me by a fellow linux user that is alot more expierenced then myself and also wrote some stuff for the linux CD
[09:17] <grahamldlw> to be precise the edubuntu CD
[09:17] <iter> grahamldlw: have a cookie, troll
[09:17] <karl> _the_ linux cd.
[09:17] <karl> he must have been pretty cool.
[09:17] <sethk> grahamldlw, well, since you obviously know people who are so much smarter than we are, why don't you go talk to one of them?
[09:17] <jerp> does anybody have a website for setting up a spiffy standalone?
[09:18] <grahamldlw> i never said people, i said person, singular not plural, and because he isnt online
[09:18] <loufoque> anyone has any idea how I could get those icons back, or at least get the main window of those apps?
[09:18] <iter> jerp: check howtoforge for "the perfect setup"
[09:18] <sethk> grahamldlw, well, since we are all so inadequate, I guess you'll have to wait until he's on line.
[09:18] <jerp> iter: ok
[09:18] <grahamldlw> and thats an assumptionm u've made, not something i've said
[09:18] <vivabenfica> sethk - lol
[09:18] <sethk> vivabenfica, use the oem install on the alternate cd
[09:18] <james_M> squeee, what repos do i grab? from ubuntuguide.org
[09:19] <iter> grahamldlw: you would have got a much better response by asking a better question
[09:19] <vivabenfica> sethk - oem install is an option i assume from the menu?
[09:19] <grahamldlw> my question was fine
[09:19] <grahamldlw> and was over complicated by witless remarks such as sethk's
[09:19] <iter> something liek "i have a pascal file, how do I compoile and run it'
[09:19] <sethk> vivabenfica, yes
[09:20] <sethk> !ops
[09:20] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[09:20] <grahamldlw> now i see why linux users are a dying breed, anyway enuf time wasting i do have things to do
[09:20] <iter> which, if you were reading, was answered
[09:20] <epsilon_> vivabenfica how do you advance?
[09:20] <Amaranth> Looks like the rest of the ops are in Mountain View already.
[09:20] <Amaranth> sethk: What's up?
[09:20] <slacktyro> hi all
[09:20] <jerp> question: how do you lift/save a clip of test on the screen in XChat?
[09:20] <sethk> Amaranth, he's gone, never mind  :)
[09:21] <vivabenfica> epsilon_ - had a nice lunch of salad and home made pizza
[09:21] <slacktyro> what do you use to play mp3,wmv, and etc?
[09:21] <epsilon_> vivabenfica ok :D:D i had a good BF2 session ;)
[09:21] <eyequeue> !restrictedformats > slacktyro
[09:21] <vivabenfica> and now thinking about the size of partitions
[09:21] <sethk> Amaranth, just a troll, but he bailed
[09:21] <vivabenfica> what is BF2?
[09:21] <j3g> hello folks.... strange thing... everytime I boot my interface order is changed... eth1 becomes eth2 and vice versa... etc.... how can i have this set PERM?
[09:21] <Amaranth> sethk: Alright
[09:21] <epsilon_> slacktyro rythmbox is simple and comfortable, amarok is cool and knows everything.
[09:22] <vivabenfica> thanks sethk
[09:22] <Solidad> i have a little question for yo guys, i dont know witch linux-image to install whit my turion64 x2.i installed a 32 it version, because i was told there was some package availability problem whit the 64 versions.but now i dont witch linux-image wold be the best...  linux-k7-smp or linux-686-smp?any sugestion / experience ?
[09:22] <sethk> vivabenfica, np
[09:22] <vivabenfica> back soon
[09:22] <epsilon_> vivabenfica ok, for a linux boot partition, 10-15 G is enough
[09:22] <sethk> Solidad, it really doesn't matter.
[09:22] <djmccormick> my SATA raid shows as two independent drives in the installer... i know it's an adaptec controller. what can i do?
[09:22] <slacktyro> epsilon_: but it's not playing mp3
[09:23] <epsilon_> !restrictedformats
[09:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:23] <slacktyro> epsilon_: how can i get the plugins?
[09:23] <eyequeue> slacktyro read what the bot told you
[09:23] <epsilon_> ;)
[09:23] <iter> djmccormick: can you boot into your card's bios to setup an array ?
[09:23] <sethk> djmccormick, it probably isn't really RAID.  they label some controllers as "RAID" because they supply a micky mouse software raid emulator for windows.
[09:23] <epsilon_> slacktyro in the wiki look for the quick way its one command
[09:23] <djmccormick> iter: the array itself is setup as RAID 1 and is set to be bootable.
[09:24] <epsilon_> slacktyro  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-ca36a48df46a615e785bcf4ad33a94db3942a2da
[09:24] <iter> djmccormick: so you set that in the card's bios right?
[09:24] <godmachine81> Kream:: can i ask you why you want to delete pkgcache.bin ?
[09:24] <godmachine81> Kream:: was you having segaults with apt-get too?
[09:24] <djmccormick> iter: yes. this is an ibm x306m right out of the box.
[09:24] <Kream> no :) all i want to do is save space
[09:24] <godmachine81> Kream:: btw it is 100% safe to delete those files
[09:24] <patrick_king> anyone know of  an app like dreamweaver mx for linux
[09:24] <iter> and you get /dev/sda and /dev/sdb ?
[09:25] <djmccormick> iter: yep.
[09:25] <iter> (or something similar)
[09:25] <iter> wow
[09:25] <godmachine81> Kream:: they get recreated everytime you do a apt-get update
[09:25] <Kream> am building  a stripped down livecd and after a few chroots in and pkg installs and removes
[09:25] <Kream> they got pretty big
[09:25] <Kream> so :)
[09:25] <quattromaggio> exit
[09:25] <eyequeue> patrick_king, try telling us what you want it to do
[09:25] <djmccormick> iter: i will check one more time to make sure it's still setup correctly for raid1.
[09:25] <Kream> are there any other files it's safe to remove, godmachine81 ?
[09:25] <nolimitsoya> how do i split a tar file in two equal size bits?
[09:26] <knix> is there a restricted modules package for edgy like there was in dapper?
[09:26] <iter> djmccormick: yeah best to double check that one
[09:26] <Kream> nolimitsoya: use bash to read the file size into a variable, divide the variable by two, use cut
[09:26] <patrick_king> eyequeue: to easly create my php webpages link to mysql databases and be able to upload to webserver all in one
[09:26] <godmachine81> Kream:: look in /var/apt/cache/archives  and /var/apt/cache/archives/partial
[09:26] <Kream> godmachine81:  done those
[09:26] <Kream> anything else?
[09:26] <nolimitsoya> Kream, could you give me a stepby step? :)
[09:26] <sethk> djmccormick, it's not appearing as RAID one.  Could be a driver issue.  With some RAID devices, if the O/S uses a default generic SATA driver, because it doesn't find a specific driver for the chip set, the RAID functionality will disappear (well, appear to disappear, really)
[09:26] <godmachine81> Kream:: depends on how important documentation is
[09:27] <godmachine81> heh
[09:27] <eyequeue> patrick_king, as in scp?  i don't really get you
[09:27] <gumpish> Sooo, there's no firefox 2 package in ubuntu repositories atm?
[09:27] <Arrick> Anyone here able to help finish the configuration of a pastebot that was written in perl, thats running on Ubuntu breezy?
[09:27] <eyequeue> !info firefox edgy
[09:27] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[09:27] <patrick_king> eyequeue: have you used dreamweaver
[09:27] <nalioth> sethk: did you get your !ops problem sorted?
[09:27] <Kream> godmachine81:  not very
[09:27] <eyequeue> patrick_king, no idea wht it is
[09:27] <gumpish> =/
[09:28] <eyequeue> !info dreamweaver
[09:28] <ubotu> Package dreamweaver does not exist in any distro I know
[09:28] <sethk> nalioth, yes, thanks.  just a troll, who left.
[09:28] <Kream> lol
[09:28] <ubuntu> lo all, i have broken my home directory.. i messed up the permissions and now i cant log in "unable to cd to home directory"
[09:28] <DigitalNinja> anyone using an nvidia pcie card?
[09:28] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja: me
[09:28] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja gf 6600 gt
[09:28] <Mahmoud85> patrick_king : try nvu
[09:28] <gumpish> Is there a special channel for dapper support?
[09:28] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: Do you have "agpgart" loaded?
[09:28] <vpol> hi all. is anybody here who uses edgy64 + Nvidia-binary-Beta?
[09:29] <eyequeue> ubuntu, reboot to recovery mode, then chmod /home back again
[09:29] <sethk> ubuntu, try this:   sudo chown -R username /home/username
[09:29] <ubuntu> my home directory is owned by the user and the user is in the correct group. permissions of the /home/username dir i have set to 755
[09:29] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja oooh i dont know :( im not in linux
[09:29] <sethk> ubuntu, of course, substitute the real user name for "username"
[09:29] <godmachine81> Kream:: cd /usr/share/doc && du -h --max-depth=0
[09:29] <bretzel> Hi How do I know or -- how Beryl is supposed to work with AIGLX + Nvidia and how I know I have AIGLX ????????????/
[09:29] <patrick_king> ok will give nvu ago is it like blowish
[09:29] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja why is it so impportant?
[09:29] <godmachine81> Kream:: see how many megs that says your using
[09:29] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: What? Your not in Linux?
[09:29] <karl> ubuntu: might have different uids, try the chown anyway,
[09:29] <ubuntu> eyequeue, sethk yes, i did that.. i am chrooted in the live cd at the momment but i still cannot login as the user
[09:29] <Kream> godmachine81:  I simply use du -m -s
[09:29] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja yes :D
[09:29] <karl> it might look like they're already in the same group, and correct ownersip, but try anyway.
[09:29] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja but i can restart if you want it so
[09:30] <sethk> ubuntu, you did a chown -R on the home directory (not the files in the directory, the directory itself)?
[09:30] <bretzel> ow do I know or -- how Beryl is supposed to work with AIGLX + Nvidia and how I know I have AIGLX ????????????
[09:30] <ubuntu> karl: i did
[09:30] <bretzel> !AIGLX
[09:30] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[09:30] <ubuntu> sethk: correct
[09:30] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: Yup! I need to know if agpgart is needed to run the nvidia driver. Could you reboot into Linux?
[09:30] <sethk> ubuntu, and what is the message you get, exactly?
[09:30] <eyequeue> ubuntu, btw, you should still be able to login even without a $HOME, you'll just get dumped in /
[09:30] <godmachine81> Kream:: still how much would it free up?
[09:30] <Mahmoud85> patrick_king : do U mean bluefish ?
[09:30] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja ok then. ill be back in a few mins ;)
[09:30] <djmccormick> iter: i checked the raid bios and it's for sure in raid1.
[09:30] <j3g> how can one set the order on which the modules should be loaded?
[09:30] <ubuntu> Unable to cd to '/home/bob
[09:30] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I'll get more coffee
[09:30] <godmachine81> Kream:: documentation is sometimes good to have.. somethings wont display right without it
[09:30] <ubuntu> sethk: Unable to cd to '/home/bob
[09:30] <patrick_king> Mahmoud85: thats the one sorry
[09:31] <eyequeue> ubuntu, but you are logged in, just not in that dir
[09:31] <sethk> ubuntu, I'm assuming that it didn't say   '/home/bob             with just one single quote
[09:31] <Kream> godmachine81:  I know, it's a risky step
[09:31] <iter> djmccormick: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-50645
[09:31] <ubuntu> sethk: eyequeue as root, in the live cd (i chrooted it
[09:31] <sethk> ubuntu, what happens if, as root, you do   cd /home/bob  ?
[09:31] <ubuntu> sethk: yesh, the quote is closed
[09:31] <Kream> if only kubuntu-desktop didn't depend on such inane and unnecessary stuff like speedcrunch!
[09:31] <avagant> First day on Edgy guys, everything going good so far.
[09:31] <ubuntu> sethk: that works
[09:31] <iter> djmccormick: still looking
[09:31] <sethk> ubuntu, ok, do this:   ls -ld /home/bob
[09:31] <ubuntu> sethk: the permissions are: drwxrwxr-x
[09:31] <avagant> I was very very worried.
[09:31] <patrick_king> Mahmoud85: Yes NVU is the type of thing i was looking for
[09:32] <ifireball> what the hack happened to X's ctrl+alt+"+" in Edgy????
[09:32] <patrick_king> cheers
[09:32] <sethk> ubuntu, owner and group are bob?
[09:32] <ubuntu> sethk: correct
[09:32] <avagant> The forums are down for the count, anybody have good edgy stories instead of the horror ones I keep hearing?
[09:32] <ubuntu> drwxrwxr-x 91 bob bob 8192 2006-11-04 19:26 /home/bob/
[09:32] <sethk> ubuntu.  ok.  as root, create a new directory, then chown -R bob:bob /newdirectory, then see if you can cd to it as bob
[09:32] <eyequeue> avagant, the forums are fine now
[09:33] <avagant> o rry?
[09:33] <ubuntu> sethk: I cannot log in as bob
[09:33] <sethk> ubuntu, you don't have to, you can, as root, do:     su bob
[09:33] <ubuntu> sethk: as root in the chrooted env i cannot do su - bob
[09:33] <avagant> I spend too much time there, lol.
[09:33] <ubuntu> sethk: i cannot
[09:33] <sethk> ubuntu, not su - bob, su bob
[09:33] <ubuntu> sethk: same message
[09:33] <godmachine81> Kream:: you dont have to use the meta package kubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <ubuntu> sethk: ah, ok.. forgot that - loads env vars
[09:33] <Kream> I know, I don't
[09:33] <sethk> ubuntu, ok, then, it has nothing to do with the directory.
[09:33] <ubuntu> sethk: yeah, works as su bob
[09:33] <avagant> wait so say my name is skt you can do "su skt"?
[09:33] <epsilon_> digitalninja u still here?
[09:33] <godmachine81> Kream:: you could install kde-base  and whatever you want
[09:34] <Kream> i'm remastering the ubuntu livecd for a couple of labs I administer
[09:34] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: Yup!
[09:34] <Coffeegrinds> is anyone else having issues with the new install cd? I keep having X restart 5 minutes in, can't install like that now can i?
[09:34] <sethk> ubuntu, you can su bob, and then you can cd?  to the one you created?  how about to /home/bob?
[09:34] <avagant> Coffeegrind, the cd hasn't worked for me.
[09:34] <Coffeegrinds> Same deal?
[09:34] <ubuntu> sethk: sethk sorry, no even su bob does not work
[09:34] <avagant> I recommend if you already have Dapper to do gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:34] <avagant> It takes a while but you can get edgy.
[09:34] <djmccormick> iter: "We didnt know at the time how HostRAID got its name, but turns out it is really descriptive. They call it HostRAID, because the damn host machine does the RAID, not the card. They are selling SATA controllers that simulate hardware RAID, by moving the software RAID into the driver and out of the OSs control."
[09:35] <ubuntu_> I write (sudo mount -t hpsplus /dev/sda3 ./mac), but (ls Users/user/Pictures) type (Permision denied)
[09:35] <ubuntu> sethk: i get bash: /home/bob//.bashrc: Permission denied
[09:35] <Kream> godmachine81:  therefore, need to have something that can easily be upgraded and am wary of removing kubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <ubuntu> sethk: it has the double // which is odd
[09:35] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: Did "agpgart" load?
[09:35] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja in xorg.conf there is no nvagp option
[09:35] <avagant> It took me 3 hours to get Edgy last night.
[09:35] <Z80user> somebody help me, in a private ?
[09:35] <Kream> because who knows, it might actually depend on something new, necessary and important one day
[09:35] <sethk> ubuntu, yes, a bit.  do    ls -l /home/bob/.bashrc
[09:35] <Coffeegrinds> is there any rhyme or reason as to why thats happening that you know of?
[09:35] <godmachine81> Kream:: are you trying to say that your labs already have kubuntu-desktop on the machines?
[09:35] <avagant> And then with 7 minutes left the update manager disappeared and I just dist-upgraded the rest.
[09:35] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: OK, can you tell me if "agpgart" loaded?
[09:36] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja how can i see the modules which i have loaded?
[09:36] <ubuntu> sethk: as bob i cannot, it thinks /home/bob is a file not a dir
[09:36] <Z80user> In ubuntu ... I write (sudo mount -t hpsplus /dev/sda3 ./mac), but (ls Users/user/Pictures) type (Permision denied)
[09:36] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: Do you already have Dapper?
[09:36] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: lsmod | less
[09:36] <Coffeegrinds> yup
[09:36] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja ty
[09:36] <Kream> godmachine81:  they will, when they install the distro on the cd i'm remastering (very painfully and incrementally)
[09:36] <sethk> ubuntu, maybe /home/bob _is_ a file, which would explain the problem.
[09:36] <ubuntu> sethk: as bob i do ls -al /home it does ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? /home/bob
[09:36] <jochem_> ubuntu, stat /home/bob
[09:36] <avagant> And you want to update to edgy?
[09:36] <ubuntu> sethk: nope, as root i can cd /home/bob/
[09:36] <sethk> ubuntu, as root, can you do    ls -l /home/bob/.bashrc?
[09:36] <avagant> I burned 2 Edgy cd's and neither of them worked for me.
[09:36] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja: "agpgart                34888  2 nvidia,intel_agp"
[09:36] <Linuturk> I've added a particular font to /usr/share/fonts/ and refreshed the font cache, but it isn't showing up in fonts:/// or in any programs. Any suggestions?
[09:36] <sethk> ubuntu, right, you said that, I forgot.  the ls -l of /home/bob/.bashrc?
[09:37] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja so i have it :)
[09:37] <avagant> So I had to netboot to get Dapper and then upgraded to edgy.
[09:37] <godmachine81> Kream:: what you should do is build a base system from scratch and then do dpkg --get-selections >installed.txt
[09:37] <Coffeegrinds> well update or fresh install.. i was going to go fresh (cause i had already botched my sql install on this machine
[09:37] <ubuntu> sethk: -rwxrwxr-x 1 bob bob
[09:37] <godmachine81> Kream:: and use that to build your livecd
[09:37] <james_M> oh, snap
[09:37] <iter> djmccormick: still there? this might pertain to your question:
[09:37] <james_M> oh
[09:37] <avagant> Hmm.
[09:37] <iter> djmccormick: http://www.jimmy.co.at/weblog/?p=64
[09:37] <godmachine81> handpicking things
[09:37] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: So you have an intel chip for onboard video?
[09:37] <godmachine81> and removing files
[09:37] <sethk> ubuntu, how about     cat /home/bob/.bashrc       does it look reasonable?
[09:37] <godmachine81> its going to most likely cause dep issues
[09:37] <james_M> wow, i got my wireless working on my own
[09:37] <Tonren> I think... I think I'm updated to Edgy.
[09:37] <avagant> Well I don't know much about sql.
[09:38] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja no, just intel motherboard chipset. i have GF6600GT
[09:38] <ubuntu> sethk: yeah, it's standard
[09:38] <Coffeegrinds> niether do i thats why  it's botched. but i was using it to run some forums\
[09:38] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I see
[09:38] <avagant> I'd say do the update manager thing, because you are just going to beat your head in trying to get the install disc to work.
[09:38] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: No onboard video?
[09:38] <sethk> ubuntu, maybe the problem is with the user, then.  does the line for bob in /etc/passwd look normal?
[09:38] <avagant> I spent about 2 days trying to get my Edgy cd to work, putting in all those stupid codes and what not.
[09:38] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja dunno :S no, afaik. (asus p5gd1 pro)
[09:38] <sethk> ubuntu, because if you can't su bob (without the dash), something is wrong with bob
[09:38] <Czech> Hi
[09:38] <sethk> ubuntu, the user id, not necessarily the person  :)
[09:38] <avagant> I think my cd drive is foobarred though.
[09:38] <ubuntu> sethk: hmm, the line has a bunch of ,,, in it
[09:38] <Coffeegrinds> well here goes nuthin
[09:39] <atarinox> are there any essential security apps i should have for xubuntu after installing?
[09:39] <sethk> ubuntu, that's odd
[09:39] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I have a MSI NX7600GT that I can't get it working on my EPoX 9GF6100-M
[09:39] <avagant> You doin' the upgrade manager?
[09:39] <sethk> ubuntu, you might try deleting user bob, then recreating him.
[09:39] <Tonren> Aw man.  Tilda doesn't work anymore!
[09:39] <djmccormick> iter: does ubuntu come with a software raid option at all?
[09:39] <avagant> n1gke: Alot of people apparently couldn't.
[09:39] <sethk> ubuntu, useradd   without any flags won't try to create a home directory, so should work
[09:39] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja: what is the error messagE?
[09:39] <ubuntu> sethk: bob:x:1000:1000:amcg,,,:/home/bob/:/bin/bash
[09:39] <avagant> n1gke: Mine would get to the stage after the bouncing status bar after boot up and then just freeze.
[09:39] <sethk> ubuntu, try userdel bob,  then useradd bob,    then passwd bob     (all as root)
[09:39] <n1gke> avagant, Yeh. I see that here too. I will try later on, perhaps on another box in a couple a' weeks.
[09:40] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I don't see an error message. X locks up. That's the problem.
[09:40] <ubuntu> sethk: by default htat wont rm /home/bob ?
[09:40] <Flannel> lastlog sethk
[09:40] <godmachine81> ubuntu:: those ,'s are normal
[09:40] <sethk> ubuntu, no, it won't
[09:40] <n1gke> avagant, I had quite a number of difficulties.
[09:40] <godmachine81> thats not odd
[09:40] <avagant> n1gke: You could always gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:40] <jochem_> those ,'s occur in my /etc/passwd as well :)
[09:40] <sethk> ubuntu, without -m, it won't even create a home for a new user.
[09:40] <avagant> Which is probably the safest way to do it.
[09:40] <avagant> Outside of a fresh install.
[09:40] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I've posted all over the net. Even in the nvidia forums. It's been two weeks and no fix
[09:40] <ubuntu> godmachine81: there are other users on the system and the lines for them don't have ,,,
[09:40] <Coffeegrinds> avangant : gonna look into it.  - have to laugh at your CD dilemma, the Edgy Disc is the first to complete burning without coaster-zing in the past 3  monhs.
[09:40] <sethk> ubuntu, and userdel never deletes the home directory.  Of course, backing up the home directory first is always a good idea.  use tar
[09:40] <anapivirtua> reboot windauze
[09:41] <n1gke> avagant, I am using two seperate server type machines 'ere and am thinking they have not caught up with them in the software.....
[09:41] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: I hear ya, I hear ya.
[09:41] <iter> djmccormick: yes, use mdadm
[09:41] <godmachine81> ubuntu but bob is your super user right?
[09:41] <Coffeegrinds> it's almost cost as much in media as a new drive
[09:41] <iter> djmccormick: works great
[09:41] <ubuntu> sethk: ok, userdel bob && useradd -G users bob -s /bin/bash ?
[09:41] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja: :( what is the error message? do you think it has something to do with agpgart?
[09:41] <epsilon_> !agpgart
[09:41] <Flannel> Coffeegrinds: the ISOs shouldnt matter in your burning process, you should burn slower (4x) or so, and check the MD5 of your download
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agpgart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <n1gke> avagant, Both of these machines have two cpu's each....
[09:41] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: I had a 50 cd case thing, and now because of all of this I have like 10.
[09:41] <sethk> ubuntu, don't use -G, not necessary
[09:41] <n1gke> ava I think that is part of my difficulty.
[09:41] <avagant> n1gke: Well then.
[09:41] <sethk> ubuntu, ok, won't hurt, I guess
[09:41] <dutchy> hey guys, im looking for a better text editor, that has auto-indent and syntax highlighting... can anyone recommend one (not vi)?
[09:41] <sethk> ubuntu, I'
[09:41] <ubuntu> godmachine81: no, bob is a normal user.. root is the superuser
[09:41] <godmachine81> i dont think any of it is necessary his /etc/passwd entry is correct sethk
[09:42] <sethk> godmachine81, I don't believe that it is
[09:42] <avagant> I've tried alot of flavors of linux, and let me tell you.....whew.
[09:42] <iter> dutchy: haha trying to start a war eh
[09:42] <godmachine81> ubuntu:: root is the super user but is bob the user of admin group?
[09:42] <sethk> godmachine81, even if I'm wrong, it won't hurt anything
[09:42] <ubuntu> godmachine81: yes
[09:42] <Flannel> dutchy: most text editors do that, gedit, kate, etc
[09:42] <avagant> dutchy: gedit, kate aren't bad.
[09:42] <iter> dutchy: emacs will do you right if you don't mind learning a lot of obscure commands
[09:42] <dutchy> Flannel: i must have missed the auto-indent in gedit then :|
[09:42] <ubuntu> sethk: I will try, but would like to hear what godmachine81 has to say, if anything, first :)
[09:42] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I was told that the agpgart module might be the problem. However, I can't remove it. I've tried turing it off. I even tried compiling a new kernel with out it. I can't seem to remove it from the kernel.
[09:42] <avagant> I want TextMate.
[09:42] <sethk> ubuntu, ok.
[09:42] <n1gke> avagant, I have many version's on CD and DVD, but I truly am very happy with 6.06 LTS, on any computer I load it to.
[09:42] <avagant> I want it so bad I can taste it.
[09:43] <sethk> ubuntu, if I'm not here, I'll be back after a bit.
[09:43] <delta> Hi. Is it possible to install the nvidia-driver on a livecd of ubuntu edgy?
[09:43] <ubuntu> sethk: thanks!
[09:43] <n1gke> What is TextMate ?
[09:43] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja: see this :S :S http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8776/README/appendix-f.html
[09:43] <ubuntu> sethk: will let you know how it goes
[09:43] <avagant> n1gke: Well, I wouldn't advice people to go to Edgy until things settle down a bit anyways.
[09:43] <avagant> n1gke: A text editor for Mac.
[09:43] <avagant> They need to port it.
[09:43] <n1gke> Really avagant, I agree....
[09:43] <Coffeegrinds> Flannel,  Ive even tried at 1x, gets to 99% then i/o error . look at the disc and not a mark on it, put it back in the drive and it reads as a blank with 4.7 gb free (or 700mb) but theres a hard circle etched into the disk
[09:43] <n1gke> oic
[09:43] <avagant> I guess there's a port coming out for Windows.
[09:44] <avagant> It's beautiful, simply beautiful.
[09:44] <iter> psh text editor from the mac
[09:44] <ubuntu> sethk: you stil there?
[09:44] <avagant> iter: hahaha.
[09:44] <ubuntu> sethk: id did not work
[09:44] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja apart from that... honestly i dont know :(
[09:44] <n1gke> I have here the HP Kayak XU800 server, dual 750 Mhz cpu's with three IDE drives to 120 G
[09:44] <Coffeegrinds> I'm thinking Laser isn't movin ..
[09:44] <godmachine81> Gecos 	 Specifies general information about the user that is not needed by the system, such as an office or phone number. The value is a character string. The Gecos field cannot contain a colon.
[09:44] <sethk> ubuntu, what didn't work?
[09:44] <godmachine81> ubuntu:: thats what those commas are
[09:44] <iter> there are 10^6 text editors from the nix world
[09:44] <Flannel> Coffeegrinds: then you need to take issue with your burner, or software.  The contents of an ISO will not affect it's burning success
[09:44] <godmachine81> that means they dont have that info put in
[09:44] <iter> some of which are actually pretty good!
[09:44] <avagant> n1gke: Can I have one of those hd's? hahaha
[09:44] <ubuntu> sethk: userdel/add
[09:44] <ubuntu> sethk: same problem
[09:44] <n1gke> avagant, The video is my next project to fix, the card has dual video output.....
[09:44] <godmachine81> those commas have nothing to do with whatever your original problem is
[09:44] <ubuntu> sethk: i think the double // has something to do with it..
[09:44] <ubuntu> godmachine81: ok, thanks..
[09:44] <sethk> ubuntu, that doesn't mean it didn't work.  "it didn't work" means you weren't able to add/delete the user
[09:44] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I've tried that but no luck. Maybe I'll give it another try. You have been a big help. I know know that nvidia pcie cards work.
[09:44] <godmachine81> i missed the first part but in /etc/passwd that is normal
[09:45] <avagant> n1gke: Have you tried the forums?
[09:45] <n1gke> avagant, I can send you a 15 g no problem.
[09:45] <ubuntu> sethk: the user was succsesfully deleeted
[09:45] <godmachine81> ubuntu:: whats your original problem?
[09:45] <dutchy> doh :| i missed the gedit indenting because it indents, but not automatically after a { :>
[09:45] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: Wasn't sure if they did or not. I'm looking at your motherboard. Maybe I have a board that doesn't work with Linux.
[09:45] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja i think the motherboard is the problem in some way :S
[09:45] <n1gke> avagant, Yeh, with my limited time, I have been in and out trying to learn more and more.
[09:45] <avagant> Dear goodness, I need a new computer or a new hd, or more hd space.
[09:45] <ubuntu> godmachine81: Unable to cd to '/home/variant' when logging in, i am chrooted in the live cd atm
[09:45] <avagant> I have 2 hd's with 10gb's each.
[09:45] <Coffeegrinds> Flannel, Ohh i know, like i said the iso is the first cd to burn in months, works fine in a laptop ive got and md5 checks out fine..
[09:45] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja does it have integrated graphics? then try to remove the GF and install that way
[09:46] <n1gke> avagant, IDE or SCSI please ?
[09:46] <Coffeegrinds> shazzbutty computer though
[09:46] <jaa6c6> for grub to work does my /boot partition need to be a primary partition?
[09:46] <ubuntu> godmachine81: i was messing with the permissions of /home/ when i started
[09:46] <ubuntu> godmachine81: now it's not working
[09:46] <Flannel> jaa6c6: no
[09:46] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: I bought my computer off Craigslist, when I originally got it sound didn't work and the Windows installation was borked.
[09:46] <sethk> ubuntu, oh, you never said that.   do    ls -ld /home
[09:46] <godmachine81> ubuntu:: so your trying to cd to /home/variant on the physical disk?
[09:46] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: It has a built in 6100. That works fine.
[09:46] <avagant> As soon as I went to Ubuntu everything worked fine, but the cd player is on it's last legs.
[09:46] <ubuntu> godmachine81: bob actualy, thats a different user.. but the problem is there too!
[09:46] <avagant> I can't even get it to open.
[09:46] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: It's the fancy NX7600GT that doesn't work.
[09:47] <avagant> Without almost forcing it to.
[09:47] <ubuntu> sethk:
[09:47] <godmachine81> ubuntu::  whats your owner/group of /home ?
[09:47] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja try to turn off the integrated one in the bios
[09:47] <avagant> That's what I get for trying to be cheap.
[09:47] <Coffeegrinds> avagant: beat ya! got mine out of a trash can, celeron 1.4 256mb, and a voodoo 3 PCI to boot!
[09:47] <godmachine81> ubuntu:: also whats the perms
[09:47] <avagant> WHOA
[09:47] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I did that. I still get the same problem
[09:47] <godmachine81> run the command sethk asked you to
[09:47] <n1gke> avagant, I have CD's, HD's and DVD's for you, tell me what you need and how to get one of them to you.
[09:47] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy.
[09:47] <Tonren> Hey guys.  Some panel icons (such as Tomboy's and Glipper's) are not actually transparent, so a "styled" panel looks ugly behind them.  Is there a way to edit them to make them actually transparent?
[09:47] <ubuntu> godmachine81: root root drw-r--r--
[09:47] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I had to do a BIOS update to get that option
[09:47] <avagant> n1gke: I don't have the money otherwise I'd hit you up on that.
[09:47] <djmccormick> iter: mdadm will probably work fine after what i'm reading, but i'm wondering how to actually get it working. would i just install on the first disk then set up mdadm with raid1 using the disk i used to install and the second disk as the mirror and it'll copy all over?
[09:48] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja but did you turn it off? :)
[09:48] <Coffeegrinds> heheh / all hail free software on free hardware
[09:48] <patrick_king> has anyone got counter strike source running on ubuntu edgy
[09:48] <avagant> More then likely I'm going to have to just stick the money into buying a newer computer.
[09:48] <godmachine81> ubuntu:: sudo chmod 755 /home
[09:48] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: Where do you live that you found that? Haha
[09:48] <n1gke> avagant, Dude or dudette, whatever, these are for your taking as I get them for zip. I collect from every source and put them in stock to help others.
[09:48] <ubuntu> godmachine81: sethk: ls -ld /home/
[09:48] <ubuntu> drw-r--r-- 6 root root 4096 2006-11-04 18:58 /home/
[09:48] <jochem_> that explains!
[09:48] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: It's OFF!
[09:48] <iter> djmccormick: I don't know if it's possible to boot from /dev/md0
[09:48] <n1gke> BRB
[09:49] <godmachine81> ubuntu do sudo ls -ld /home/variant
[09:49] <avagant> That would be beautiful to just randomly come upon a computer.
[09:49] <cafuego> iter: it is, raid1 anyway.
[09:49] <sethk> ubuntu, the trailing slash is not necessary, if that's what you were trying to say.  If the trailing slash is necessary, then you probably also have created a file in / named home
[09:49] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja OKOK :D :(
[09:49] <iter> cafuego: awsome, how
[09:49] <sethk> ubuntu, you need x permission on /home
[09:49] <sethk> otherwise it isn't searchable
[09:49] <Coffeegrinds> Ottawa, The Greath canadia theatre company threw it out ofter an old virus (dos era) was brought in, was cheaper to toss it for them and replace than clean... (Hehehe)
[09:49] <sethk> ubuntu, so do:   chmod a+x /home
[09:49] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I've been at it for two weeks. Sorry!
[09:49] <cafuego> iter: During install, create a raid1 device and mount it as / :-)
[09:49] <Coffeegrinds> can\t spell canadian..
[09:50] <ubuntu> sethk: i dont know what you mean, /home/ and /home are the same thing (directory)
[09:50] <n1gke> Had to crank the volume as they are now playiing my favorite song of all time, "Blondie, Rapture". At 110 watts sourround sound it sounds awesome. . .
[09:50] <godmachine81> sethk:: i told him to sudo chmod 755 /home
[09:50] <avagant> I wanna live in Canada anyways.
[09:50] <bobmcbob> hi, just installed edgey, uncommented the extra sources in the sources.list file and now apt-get update fails with the error : W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[09:50] <djmccormick> you can create these raid devices during install? where is that done?
[09:50] <ubuntu> /home/variant is a dude that was helpin me the other day
[09:50] <jaa6c6> flannel: thank you very much your answer helped me alot
[09:50] <sethk> ubuntu, ok, good.  I was wondering why you said  "it is ls -ld /home/"   as if ls -ld /home were wrong
[09:50] <iter> cafuego: haha ok
[09:50] <ubuntu> sethk: tab completion
[09:50] <jaa6c6> flannel: i finally got my raid5 to boot
[09:50] <sethk> godmachine81, I don't recommend using numbers with chmod for new users.
[09:50] <avagant> I think I'm gonna move to Canada. Free computers? HECK YA
[09:50] <sethk> godmachine81, did you do:   chmod a+x /home ?
[09:50] <n1gke> avagant, So, would a 15 or 20 gig help some ? These are IDE drives, but I also have SCSI in various forms.
[09:51] <godmachine81> me?
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> Where did the "New login in nested window" option from Dapper go?  I want to do that.
[09:51] <avagant> I don't know the difference, n1gke.
[09:51] <avagant> All I know is I have 2 10gb hd's.
[09:51] <sethk> godmachine81, sorry
[09:51] <cafuego> iter: it's the easiest way; otherwise you need to sue mdadm to create the raid set, the mount it, install the system in a chroot, fix up the bootloader and cross your fingers.
[09:51] <ubuntu> sethk: it's ok, i understand octal notation :)
[09:51] <avagant> Do you live in Qualhog?
[09:51] <avagant> Haha
[09:51] <n1gke> lololol
[09:51] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja i'm sure its the motherboard, if nvidia says your card is supported (if it says so - the 8776 supports it)
[09:51] <n1gke> No but I do enjoy eating those !
[09:51] <n1gke> lol
[09:51] <avagant> Hahaha.
[09:51] <n1gke> lol
[09:51] <sethk> ubuntu, that's not the point, it's error prone.  regardless, since nobody seems to be able to understand why using octal is dumb, did you do it?   chmod a+x /home   (or, if you insist, whatever octal number that corresponds to)?
[09:52] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: Well, time for me to find more coffee. I'm getting another system so I'll try the NX7600GT in that one. I just need to find out what board I need to get.
[09:52] <n1gke> Where you are ?
[09:52] <avagant> I think that's where the show is based.
[09:52] <avagant> I haven't watched in a while.
[09:52] <iter> cafuego: or use a third drive temporarily
[09:52] <godmachine81> sethk:: it would be 755 ;)
[09:52] <avagant> I'm in cali right now man, looking to make my big trip back to the east.
[09:52] <ubuntu> sethk: godmachine81: chmod 755 or a+x worked 1!!
[09:52] <n1gke> Cool !
[09:52] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja okay. and does it work with oher linuxes? for example suse's hardware support is very good
[09:52] <cafuego> iter: how do you mean?
[09:52] <avagant> But first I need el jobbo.
[09:52] <sethk> ubuntu, good.
[09:52] <godmachine81> heh
[09:52] <godmachine81> good job
[09:52] <ubuntu> sethk: godmachine81: thank you both very very much!
[09:52] <n1gke> I liked the left-coast from time to time.
[09:52] <godmachine81> your welcome
[09:53] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: You still here? Haha
[09:53] <avagant> n1gke: It's CRAZY out here, and sometimes in not good ways.
[09:53] <cafuego> iter: Well, you can install onto a single drive, defining raid arrays with only one partition.
[09:53] <n1gke> I know.
[09:53] <Coffeegrinds> yup doin some wiki readin
[09:53] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I havn't tried that yet
[09:53] <n1gke> Trust me, I've been around
[09:53] <sethk> godmachine81, I didn't say _I_ can't do the octal conversion, I said it is not smart to do it that way.  but forget it, I'm apparently the only one in the world who understands that argument (well, other than the people who wrote chmod, but that's another story)
[09:53] <iter> cafuego: copy system to third drive, create array, copy back to array
[09:53] <cafuego> iter: ... and the after plugging drive #2 later tell it to rebuild.
[09:53] <avagant> I apparently moved into the meth capital of the world.
[09:53] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: I'll give it another go sometime today.
[09:53] <n1gke> omg !
[09:53] <avagant> Not knowing that of course.
[09:53] <cafuego> iter: Yah
[09:53] <n1gke> That stinks.
[09:53] <avagant> And got robbed.
[09:53] <DigitalNinja> epsilon_: Time for some coffee
[09:53] <avagant> 2000 dollars worth of possessions.
[09:53] <jbroome> avagant: well, sleep is over rated
[09:53] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja then it's just time for that... my second favourite is suse, it knows everything
[09:54] <epsilon_> DigitalNinja ok :)
[09:54] <avagant> jbroome: Haha.
[09:54] <iter> djmccormick: you hear all that
[09:54] <n1gke> My brides cousin has recently moved back here from the left coast and is very thankful to have done so,
[09:54] <jbroome> DigitalNinja: see avagant for some meth.  I watched my other halfs step sister for a ocuple months while she was doing that.
[09:54] <n1gke> sleep ?
[09:54] <ubuntu> sethk: i thought it must be somthing to do with the permissions higher up than just /home/bob and the others.. seing as it affected all of them.
[09:54] <Coffeegrinds> OUCH!  well I'm in montreal now and we have issues with cokeheads like it was the early 80's all over. well that and tourists
[09:54] <n1gke> What is that ?Can I donwload sleep ?
[09:54] <iter> avagant: only BOUGHT the drugs, he didn't use them ;)
[09:54] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: Haha, and all there is to do in PA is drink.
[09:54] <sethk> ubuntu, the search permission on /home affects every directory in /home
[09:54] <avagant> iter: HAHAH
[09:55] <sethk> ubuntu, every file and directory in /home
[09:55] <avagant> uhhhh sxe?
[09:55] <ubuntu> sethk: i thought only if you use -R
[09:55] <avagant> ok ok, I lied.
[09:55] <avagant> but yah sxe.
[09:55] <ubuntu> sethk: but then, you wouldnt be able to go deeper anyway.. i suppose
[09:55] <n1gke> Coffeegrinds, I really enjoyed Montreal and watching the F-1 races, but ya' know, OMG, I am glad to live/exist/reside in Rhode Island !
[09:55] <sethk> ubuntu, chmod changes only /home, without the -R.  it is the permissions on /home that were the problem, though
[09:55] <gumpish> "Your architecutre, 'ppc', is not supported by the Macromedia Flash Player installer." :(
[09:55] <new-install> i'm trying to install edgy to a partition on an existing system.  i specify / on /dev/sdb2, and a swap partition on /dev/sdb5.  when i try to continue, the "prepare mount points" tells me "No root file system", even though i have specified it on /dev/sdb2.  what's going on?
[09:55] <djmccormick> iter: basically... install to a temp drive is the best idea? then create the array and copy back into the array and set it to boot?
[09:56] <BAzfH> hi
[09:56] <sethk> ubuntu, because, without search permission on /home, you can't find any file under /home, regardless of the permissions of those files.  you see?
[09:56] <avagant> n1gke: I had a friend John that lived in PA from Rhode Island. His accent drove me crazy. Haha
[09:56] <iter> djmccormick: nah if you're going to install just make the array at install time
[09:56] <n1gke> lolol
[09:56] <n1gke> Yeh huh
[09:56] <lasindi> Hi everyone, I'm trying to install an HP DeskJet 420 parallel port printer, but it doesn't detect my printer automatically. Should I manually specify LPT#1 as the port?
[09:56] <avagant> I seriously couldn't understand a word he was saying.
[09:56] <ubuntu> sethk: cool, thnx (back to readin man chmod/chown/etc) :)
[09:56] <djmccormick> iter: ah... where is that done?
[09:56] <n1gke> lasindi, hello.
[09:56] <ubuntu> sethk: thnx
[09:56] <ubuntu> later all!
[09:56] <n1gke> Ciao ubuntu....
[09:56] <lasindi> n1gke: hello
[09:56] <avagant> Everyone tells me I have one, but uh i'm from PA if you aren't living in Pitt it isn't "dahn tahn" and in other regions likewise.
[09:57] <iter> djmccormick: while the installer is running switch to another terminal and setup array
[09:57] <n1gke> lol @ ava
[09:57] <cafuego> aiyeee!
[09:57] <djmccormick> iter: mdadm will be available?
[09:57] <avagant> DONT update to edgy unless you are absolutley sure.
[09:57] <sethk> avagant, hey, everybody knows youse guys in Pa don't talk too goodly
[09:57] <avagant> The graphics are snappy.
[09:57] <n1gke> lasindi, I can't help, but thught I'd say hello anyway.
[09:57] <iter> djmccormick: good question, because I haven't actually done it that way
[09:57] <avagant> sethk: Hahaha.
[09:57] <BAzfH> i have a problem with ubuntu edgy and wireless, maybe someone could help me? okay problem is as follow: wlan card is pci with msi pc54g3 - as far as i read in the forums it does not work with the normal edgy drivers, therefore i need to get the drivers from ratech. but after i build and configured them my system freezes when trying to setup network with ifup
[09:57] <epsilon_> avagant its okay :D
[09:57] <Coffeegrinds> algke see thats the fun part about living here, i grew up just off the island as a kid, but my dad was military so we moved after grade 5, so it's kinda like I'm a tourist in my own city now that I'm 25. i just moved back last year. /sadly worked all through F1
[09:57] <lasindi> n1gke: ah, ok :-)
[09:57] <iter> djmccormick: I just setup system drive and then used two others for array
[09:58] <avagant> my other half says youse all the time, it's pretty funny.
[09:58] <djmccormick> iter: i'll try it out. what's the key combo to get to a terminal? isn't it ctrl+alt+F2 or something?
[09:58] <BAzfH> anybody here who had similar problems or has an idea to track that down?
[09:58] <n1gke> Oh she's from jois'y avagant ?
[09:58] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: I moved alot as a child, but resided in good ole' Erie PA for 15 years.
[09:58] <iter> djmccormick: just alt-f2 in terminal, ctrl-alt-f2 from xwindows
[09:58] <sethk> avagant, hmm, that's usually New York.  PA people say "alls" a lot
[09:58] <avagant> no, she is from Buffalo.
[09:58] <avagant> haha
[09:58] <n1gke> oic
[09:59] <Tonren> Hey guys, I didn't see any boot-up notes during Ubuntu's splash bootup period.  That is, I didn't see stuff like "Mounting root file system", "Configuring network interfaces", etc.  But I'm hanging on "Configuring network interfaces" just like I used to, and I can't Ctrl + C out of it!
[09:59] <Tonren> I just upgraded to Edgy.
[09:59] <avagant> She also says "walmart-s" instead of walmart.
[09:59] <avagant> Putting an s at the end of everything, good times.
[09:59] <BAzfH> Tonren: that is normal behaviour in edgy. but you can remove the quiet option from the boot params
[09:59] <cafuego> Tonren: Hmmyeah. upgrading usually does something wrong, best bet is to backup data nd do a fresh install.
[09:59] <eyequeue> Tonren, that's normal, but if you want, i can tell you how to get those back
[09:59] <sethk> avagant, that's ok, one of my ex-wives goes to "traders joe"
[10:00] <new-install> why is the installer telling me "no root file system" even though i have specified sdb2 as the / partition?
[10:00] <avagant> Oh noeeessssssss I have heard of em, is that a NY thing?
[10:00] <avagant> trader joe's, or maybe they had one in pitt when we lived there.
[10:00] <Tonren> eyequeue: To get them back, do I remove the "quiet" option in GRUB like BAzfH said?
[10:01] <action09> anyone has an evolution blackout ?
[10:01] <action09> :)
[10:01] <eyequeue> avagant, the "s-ing" of words isn't a ny thing, i've never heard it there
[10:01] <avagant> At any rate Cali sucks, I can't wait to get back home but hopefully before the weather gets horrible.
[10:01] <avagant> I don't know maybe it's a buffalo thing.
[10:01] <iter> djmccormick: http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[10:01] <iter> djmccormick: might be useful
[10:01] <avagant> like walmarts, kmarts, etc.
[10:01] <eyequeue> Tonren, yes, then sudo update-grub afterward
[10:01] <BAzfH> Tonren: yes you definitely do
[10:01] <Tonren> eyequeue: Alternately, I'd love to be able to specify, in interfaces, to not bother configuring if there's nothing plugged into the ethernet port.
[10:02] <Tonren> eyequeue: BAzfH: Frankly, I think it's ridiculous that Ubuntu still has that behavior.  I was thinking of disabling it on boot entirely, and having it run on Gnome startup.
[10:02] <avagant> and everything is "down this house, down that house" in Pitt. Haha
[10:02] <majiq> i can't start X since i added the LRM repo for nvidia drivers. today my linux-restricted-modules was auto-updated and now X won't start. :( what should i do?
[10:02] <avagant> Go back to an older update and hope for the best?
[10:02] <xuser> Anyone seen rdesktop acting weird in edgy?
[10:02] <avagant> Sorry that's not good advice.
[10:02] <sethk> avagant, actually they are a west coast thing, they have started to open stores in the East only recently.
[10:02] <eyequeue> Tonren, you do or don't want the boot messages?  some like quiet as default, i want as much info as possible, heh
[10:02] <BAzfH> anybody around who solved lockup problems with rt61 wlan chip at ifup? (using ratech drivers? or maybe someone got rt61 wlan chip running with the 'standard' drivers?
[10:02] <avagant> I'm surprized how stable my Edgy install is.
[10:03] <avagant> It's kind of spooky in a way.
[10:03] <sethk> brb
[10:03] <Tonren> eyequeue: The only reason I want the boot messages is so I can Ctrl + C out of "Configuring network interfaces..." because it hangs when I'm not plugged in.
[10:03] <jordan> avagant: FYI, the update fixes the nvidia security issue
[10:03] <avagant> Maybe it was out here, sethk.
[10:03] <paulv> is reportbug the appropriate tool to report bugs with?
[10:03] <Tonren> eyequeue: If I can somehow specify, in /etc/networking/interfaces, to not bother with configuring if there's nothing plugged in, I'd rather do that.
[10:03] <BAzfH> avagant: i maybe would be surprised if wlan would run :-((
[10:03] <avagant> BAzfH: Me and ubuntu have a very long history of beating each other up, so this working flawlessly the first time is kind of disturbing.
[10:03] <eyequeue> Tonren, ah, put the quiet back in once you find a real fix.  i had to run nosplash for a while until edgy got fixed
[10:03] <new-install> why is the edgy installer telling me "no root file system" even though i have specified sdb2 as the / partition?
[10:04] <majiq> avagant: (if you were talking to me) .. i dunno how to get back to the older version
[10:04] <Tonren> eyequeue: Where is GRUB's rc?
[10:04] <BAzfH> avagant: hehe.. i have a history like that, too
[10:04] <avagant> Isn't there a "downgrade" option at the prompt for apt-get?
[10:04] <avagant> I was reading "man apt-get" last night.
[10:04] <BAzfH> oh well .. only when upgrading and in some early days even with fresh installs
[10:04] <eyequeue> Tonren, /boot/grub/menu.list is probably what you want
[10:05] <avagant> BAzfH: Albiet the update manager with 7 minutes left disappeared and I had to do a dist-upgrade the rest of the way through but other then that, flawless.
[10:05] <majiq> avagant: i'll check. thanks
[10:05] <savvas_> i need some guidance with iptables, i want to limit each users to two processes that use the internet simultaneously. is it possible?
[10:05] <abnerian> Hey, does Ubuntu have a dedicated Wifi channel?
[10:05] <jbroome> no, here's fine
[10:05] <Tonren> eyequeue: Oh, god.  The system terminal font is now horribly anti-aliased.  What's a good alternative?
[10:05] <epsilon_> !wifi
[10:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:05] <avagant> majiq: Ya don't quote me on that, but I think you might be able to get your old kernel back.
[10:05] <abnerian> Ah. Uh...how do I get my wifi working, XD?
[10:05] <BAzfH> avagant: hehe.. at work dapper -> edgy worked almost flawless. except there was a bootup problem
[10:05] <abnerian> I have an Atheros card, ath0.
[10:05] <avagant> sudo ifup eth0?
[10:05] <eyequeue> Tonren, not sure, i'm not a font guy
[10:05] <abnerian> i'll try that
[10:06] <abnerian> Be gentle, I'm new to Ubuntu.
[10:06] <avagant> BAzfH: I had to netboot to Dapper, and then upgrade to Edgy.
[10:06] <avagant> From Windows, because my cd player decided it's having a bad week.
[10:06] <abnerian> Says ath0 is already configured.
[10:06] <avagant> Hmm.
[10:06] <BAzfH> lol
[10:06] <abnerian> >.> What does that mean?
[10:06] <avagant> I don't know much about wifi.
[10:06] <abnerian> Also, my wireless has WPA.
[10:06] <avagant> Have you checked the forums?
[10:06] <abnerian> Nay.
[10:07] <avagant> Or the dapper guide or anything?
[10:07] <avagant> www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:07] <BAzfH> i would be really lucky if i had a ath0 instead of my f*cking ra0
[10:07] <abnerian> ...can I tell you something embarassing?
[10:07] <avagant> rut roh.
[10:07] <abnerian> I have no idea what version of Ubuntu this is.
[10:07] <Coffeegrinds> and I'm back.. upgrade gave me an error
[10:07] <avagant> uname -a
[10:07] <abnerian> And no idea how to find out.
[10:07] <BAzfH> there are severals hundred people around having problems with it in edgy
[10:07] <eyequeue> !version
[10:07] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[10:07] <BAzfH> with a dozen of possible solutions
[10:07] <BAzfH> but none seems to work for me :-(((
[10:07] <eyequeue> abnerian, ^
[10:07] <avagant> BAzfH: I'm still crossing my fingers.
[10:07] <abnerian> Dapper.
[10:08] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: hmm.
[10:08] <avagant> What kind of error?
[10:08] <abnerian> I'm not going to upgrade to Edge until they fix everything.
[10:08] <BAzfH> i'm currently thinking of downloading a dapper iso
[10:08] <avagant> abnerian: GOOD idea.
[10:08] <Coffeegrinds> couldn't connect to ftp connection frefused.. \
[10:08] <avagant> oh snap.
[10:08] <BAzfH> but it will take so long again:((
[10:08] <avagant> you got a firewall or anything?
[10:08] <Coffeegrinds> not on my mob
[10:08] <Coffeegrinds> box..
[10:08] <Tonren> Oh lord... can anyone tell me how to stop the horrible Edgy anti-aliasing in Gnome-Terminal?  It's nauseating.
[10:08] <avagant> oh snap.
[10:08] <avagant> <_<
[10:08] <avagant> >_>
[10:09] <BAzfH> well... BUT .. edgy is great! real great!
[10:09] <Coffeegrinds> hmm can't i just upgrade using my cd as a source?
[10:09] <avagant> BAzfH: Eh it's just flashier, it actually to me doesn't boot up any faster then Dapper did.
[10:09] <avagant> I think with all the tweaking I did to my dapper it actually booted faster.
[10:09] <BAzfH> it's running fine at work (seems as it wants me to do my work) .. but doesn't at home (it doesn't want me to work at home)
[10:09] <BAzfH> heheheh
[10:10] <jda487> hi there,
[10:10] <avagant> BAzfH: Haha. Edgy is trying to be your mom.
[10:10] <Tonren> Mein gott... this is like an apocalypse.  MPD doesn't work.  Tilda doesn't work.  Do I even have sound?!
[10:10] <avagant> It's a parental authority.
[10:10] <BAzfH> oh.. thats a late start for someone to be my mom
[10:10] <avagant> hahaha.
[10:10] <eyequeue> will edgy cook my dinner?
[10:10] <avagant> Hahaha.
[10:10] <BHSPitLappy> will edgy do my laundry?
[10:10] <epsilon_> no, but it brings some coffee every morning.
[10:10] <u221e> I just lowered my screen resolution but now my emacs' fonts look like crap... How can I fix this?
[10:10] <avagant> It's got a lasanga in the oven for me (I can't spell)
[10:11] <avagant> oh wait, that's my other half.
[10:11] <epsilon_> (anyway i dont like coffee)
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> lasagna
[10:11] <max_> is there anyway to mount as iso to a virtual drive in kde?
[10:11] <georgy> BAzfH : use ratech drivers and here a tuto in french http://www.bawet.org/article.php3?id_article=136
[10:11] <avagant> DANG ALMOST
[10:11] <epsilon_> max_ yes
[10:11] <BAzfH> It's like you are going to have a paid girl - after several years of sex drugs and rock'n'roll - but your mom comes up to tell you that you are too young
[10:11] <epsilon_> max_ ill give you a link in a sec
[10:11] <avagant> Hahaha.
[10:11] <BHSPitLappy> max_, sudo mount -o loop image.iso /media/place
[10:11] <BAzfH> georgy: i tried to use them
[10:11] <epsilon_> !iso > max_
[10:11] <avagant> Oh man, comedy comedy.
[10:12] <BAzfH> georgy: doing ifup ra0 after doing through tuts results in a total lockup of my system
[10:12] <avagant> Coffeegrinds: If anything read some wiki's, I don't know if there's a way to update using that I've been very unlucky (like yourself) with cd's and what not.
[10:12] <Coffeegrinds> actually just found it
[10:12] <Coffeegrinds> http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html
[10:12] <georgy> BAzfH, : ok, but works great in dapper
[10:12] <BAzfH> :-(
[10:12] <avagant> I used insulinux on windows to get Dapper.
[10:13] <avagant> That took almost 4 hours to finish.
[10:13] <BAzfH> seems like i really need to invest 2 hours to download it
[10:13] <max_> BHSPitLappy: in the "place" what do i put there?
[10:13] <BAzfH> ... again
[10:13] <avagant> AND I had to use the UK mirror.
[10:13] <BAzfH> okay. i revise my opinion