[06:13] <jtf0518> it ran ok on mine although I still haven't gotten 1440x900 res with it.
[06:14] <[SUDO] Tux> Does anyone know of any differences from DD GIMP and Edgy GIMP?
[06:14] <Konnektion> is there a way to apt-get the jre on a LAMP server?
[06:14] <bruenig> jtf0518, right but again. There is no telling how many aren't having issues. Even if you were to say, hey there are a lot more posts then there were on dapper. That could very easily be chalked up to the increased user base meaning that the percentage could remain the same while the quantity went up.
[06:14] <BHSPitLappy> Using the 6.10 Desktop CD, the installer is sticking on the Partitioning Step. The dialog says "Starting up the partitioner", and it gets stuck at 50% (Scanning Disks...), though I'm still able to cancel and close the installer (meaning the program hasn't crashed, it's just not DOING anything.
[06:14] <Jordan_U> !java | Konnektion
[06:14] <ubotu> Konnektion: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:14] <bruenig> Konnektion, you have to enable the extra repositories
[06:14] <BHSPitLappy> HOW can I correct this, hopefully without using the Alternate CD instead.
[06:14] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: I've gotten pretty good at GIMP
[06:14] <Konnektion> ah k
[06:14] <Konnektion> ty
[06:14] <Celeste> is there a regular expression which returns JUST the IP adress of of my "ppp0" connection when I cann "ifconfig" ?
[06:14] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: Do you have the PhotoShop theme for GIMP?
[06:14] <mister_roboto> Konnektion: sun-java5-bin
[06:15] <mister_roboto> Konnektion: oops... you got it
[06:15] <[SUDO] Tux> aah no spell check
[06:15] <Celeste> in the line  "inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  P-t-P:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>"   just  "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:15] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: No, I'm not a gimpshop fan.
[06:15] <compudaze> edgy's gimp: 2.2.13, dapper's gimp: 2.2.11
[06:15] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: Is it at all like PS?
[06:16] <bruenig> Celeaste, you could do ifconfig ppp0 | grep Bcast, that would be pretty close to just the IP address. As close as I have ever figured out to get
[06:16] <jtf0518> bruenig, true enough and it is "experimental" but I think alot of people got it because they thought it would be another Dapper. Dapper was a refinement of earlier distros and much more stable when it shipped so they've been pissed off because they didn't read the fine print. Caveat Emptor.
[06:16] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U:have you ever used PS on like a Mac or Windows?
[06:16] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, you can always open a terminal/console and use fdisk
[06:16] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: I am really the wrong person to ask :)
[06:16] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: ha ok
[06:16] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: you play many games on ubuntu?
[06:17] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Yes, but no windows games.
[06:17] <graeme> bruenig: that's not valid regex ...
[06:17] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: What kind of games? FPS? RPG?
[06:17] <bruenig> graeme, ?
[06:17] <Celeste> bruenig, celeste@ubuntu:~$ ifconfig ppp0 | grep Bcas
[06:17] <Celeste> celeste@ubuntu:~$
[06:17] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: I'm not a hardcore gamer, I play Zelda, xmoto, pong...
[06:18] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: Ha Zelda? do they have an emulator for super nintendo?
[06:18] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Yup, mupen64.
[06:18] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U:  wow... how do you get it?
[06:18] <bruenig> Celeste, yeah I didn't realize you had a different format. I am not to keen on networking. I do not know a way to get only the ip address
[06:18] <Celeste> bruenig, got it :)  replaces "Bcas" by "addr"
[06:18] <graeme> bruenig: sed: -e expression #1, char 4: comments don't accept any addresses
[06:19] <Rookie-> Zelda - one of the very best games ever :)
[06:19] <bruenig> graeme, did you try my command and this is an error you say?
[06:19] <Seeker2599> how do i use gparted to format my flash drive?
[06:19] <graeme> so I've updated my sources.list and it still can't find mozilla-dev in the repos .... %$#&^%
[06:19] <Celeste> bruenig, thank you
[06:19] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: http://mupen64.emulation64.com/ ( it isn't in any repo AFIK, but you don't need to compile anything, just unzip and run )
[06:19] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: Good, is it good?
[06:19] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, but that doesn't help me get past that step in the installer
[06:20] <bruenig> graeme, if you could pastebin  your sources.list that would probably be best. Did you copy and paste that entire command like I said or try some other way?
[06:20] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Verry, plays both zelda's, Super Mario 64, and super smash brothers flawlessly :)
[06:20] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, with fdisk you can make the partitions, when you done that and returning to the installer you can just mount the partitions
[06:20] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, huh?
[06:20] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: Wow, Really?! you gotta get each game individualy?
[06:20] <microsoft_spy> Anyone had any success with edgy video on  VIA K8M890 and VT8237A Chipset
[06:21] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, or is it the installer that makes you trubble ?
[06:21] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, are you saying it won't get stuck on that step?
[06:21] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: like from the site?
[06:21] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, right, the installer.
[06:21] <BHSPitLappy> from the live cd.
[06:21] <bruenig> !pastebin | graeme
[06:21] <ubotu> graeme: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:21] <lane> Where should I ask a m0n0wall question?
[06:21] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Like from Bittorrent...
[06:21] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, ahh, sorry then
[06:21] <Seeker2599> how do i format my flash drive using gparted, or is there another way to do it?
[06:21] <graeme> bruenig: just copy and pasted it ...
[06:21] <bruenig> graeme, the whole thing including the &&'s
[06:21] <graeme> yeah, cool I'll pastebin it ..
[06:21] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: You do?
[06:22] <capiCrimm> xfontsel shows no ttf fonts, any help?
[06:22] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, is the the same spot it halts on ? same package ?
[06:22] <sysdoc> Anyone running beryl get this error when starting the beryl-manager? >XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA>beryl: No composite extension
[06:22] <graeme> bruenig: http://pastebin.ca/246433
[06:22] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, not a package... the partitioning step of the installer
[06:22] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Of course not, that would be illegal, I paid money for a doodad to download the roms onto my computer from the cartriges, thats my story and I'm stickn to it ;)
[06:22] <b33r-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31151/ I get this error when I try to compile x-chat
[06:22] <[SUDO] Tux> well i dont want to screw anything up by having stuff open while upgrading
[06:22] <[SUDO] Tux> im out see ya all on the other side...
[06:23] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, it stops when you make the partitions ? using the installer ?
[06:23] <ayaa> i dont find screen grabbing application button in my menu
[06:23] <bruenig> graeme, are you on breezy or dapper?
[06:23] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, it stops while it's loading up the mini version of gparted that's inside the installer
[06:23] <graeme> bruenig: dapper
[06:23] <BHSPitLappy> on "scanning disks"
[06:23] <shriphani> how do i place a running process in the background ?
[06:23] <microsoft_spy>  Anyone know why video is so sluggish on edgy with VIA K8M890 and VT8237A Chipset
[06:23] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, if I start up gparted on its own, it also gets stuck scanning
[06:23] <Clinton__> shriphani: use ctrl-z and then type bg
[06:24] <graeme> bruenig: darn, the update never updated the sources.list ....
[06:24] <shriphani> Clinton__, thanks
[06:24] <QuantumG> I'm upgrading Breezy -> Edgy
[06:24] <Jordan_U> graeme: That is a good thing, your sources.list is WRONG.
[06:24] <bruenig> graeme, run the following command then, sudo sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mozilla-dev mozilla-psm
[06:24] <LinuxTitan> ok. seriously. I'm on ubuntu ce and I've done everything in my power to change the window manager
[06:24] <jtf0518> I'm seeing both those files but I had to go into Synaptic's advanced section and do a search on mozilla. It doesn't say what section it's in though. Maybe backports?
[06:24] <LinuxTitan> and it just isnt working
[06:24] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, ok, my first thought is that it is something with the disks, you have more then one disk ? or you have cd/dvd on same cable as the disk ?
[06:24] <QuantumG> I do this so I can see if the gnome cups manager has improved any
[06:25] <Seeker2599> my flash drive is empty but it says there is 691.91 mb in use how the heck to i format this!
[06:25] <Trixsey> I've been playing around a little with skins, and messed up something (I think)... Is there any way to reset desktop settings to what they used to be? (text size, background, everything)=
[06:25] <QuantumG> anyone know if it has?
[06:25] <LinuxTitan> editing xinitrc isn't working. I can't even change the default-display-manager
[06:25] <QuantumG> in particular, does it display smb error messages at all now?
[06:25] <Jordan_U> graeme: Using a breezy repo on dapper could cause problems, bruenig's command will fix that though.
[06:25] <kamui> ? realmedia
[06:25] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, just one hard drive. Not sure if it shares a controller with the optical drive, though
[06:25] <TGPO> seeker put it in then in a terminal fdisk /dev/sd(whatever it is)
[06:25] <kamui> ?? real media
[06:26] <kamui> damn it, can someone point me to the howto on howto play realmedia in ubuntu
[06:26] <kamui> ?
[06:26] <InvisiblePinkUni> why do "man bg" or "man fg" say no manual entry?
[06:26] <graeme> bruenig: Ok, I swapped breezy with dapper myself in the sources.list ...
[06:26] <TGPO> Seeker2599,  put it in then in a terminal fdisk /dev/sd(whatever it is)
[06:26] <crimsun> kamui: install realplay from dapper-commercial
[06:26] <graeme> I'll run the command anyway just to make sure ...
[06:26] <eetfunk> Can anyone tell me how to create some kind of snapshot of my virtual private server that could be restored in case I screw up while I do some changes?  Of course, I can only access the machine with SSH.
[06:26] <QuantumG> InvisiblePinkUni: cause they're internal commands of bash
[06:26] <bruenig> graeme, yeah the command will still be fine even if you already replaced
[06:27] <Seeker2599> could it be sda1 TGPO?
[06:27] <InvisiblePinkUni> QuantumG: where can i find documentation for them?
[06:27] <kamui> crimsun: how do I do that?  I don't know what dapper-commercial is
[06:27] <QuantumG> InvisiblePinkUni: man bash, /bg
[06:27] <TGPO> Seeker2599, cat /etc/fstab if sda1 isnt your hard drive its a real good chance
[06:27] <Jordan_U> bruenig: That is a good idea to use sed instead of longer instructions, I'll have to remember that.
[06:27] <crimsun> !restricted > kamui
[06:27] <kamui> crimsun: also I thought there were real video codecs that I could install to play using totem etc
[06:28] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, if it is the integrated gparted it halts on its most likely something with the disk .... i would try fisk and see what happens - as long as you dont exit that program with to use save option your ok
[06:28] <InvisiblePinkUni> QuantumG: :) thank you.
[06:28] <Trixsey> I've been playing around a little with skins, and messed up something (I think)... Is there any way to reset desktop settings to what they used to be? (text size, background, everything)?
[06:28] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, fsik*fdisk
[06:28] <bruenig> Jordan_U, after so many referrals to wiki pages, that is so much easier. Those who go to the wiki don't understand why it works anyways because it just tells you to check boxes in synaptic. So just give them the command and get it over with
[06:29] <QuantumG> yeah, FSM isn't invisible, he just aint around at the moment
[06:29] <QuantumG> that makes him better
[06:29] <Jordan_U> bruenig: Of course he is superior, he exists, here is undeniable proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL7FcvEydqg&eurl=
[06:29] <axisys> when i press the wireless button i get this http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/3NmQix88.html
[06:29] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, odd... fdisk -l shows the partition table, but I don't get a new prompt... it's like its getting stuck as well
[06:29] <bruenig> Jordan_U, I saw that. He was on that building
[06:29] <Xenguy> Can anyone tell me why my keyboard input locks up ever night at precisely 1:06am ? (this is dapper)
[06:29] <InvisiblePinkUni> bruenig: jtf0518 : me thinks you are agents of the evil purple oyster ;)
[06:29] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, in that case i would check the cable
[06:30] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, but windows works "flawlessly"
[06:30] <bruenig> Jordan_U, but then I realized that maybe it is the christian god http://youtube.com/watch?v=OiTna_a4TCI
[06:30] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, yea, but win works on a diff. way - no need to know or tell anything to the system
[06:30] <jtf0518> somehow the words Windows and flawlessly just don't seem to go together in my experience.
[06:30] <TGPO> mine either
[06:31] <Trixsey> I've never ever seen a flawless OS :P
[06:31] <jtf0518> I've been supporting Windows since 3.0 and I've got the roids to prove it!
[06:31] <TGPO> lol
[06:31] <xeon111> i need help new to ubuntu
[06:31] <Rookie-> Trixsey, there are many .... all depence on how its configured ;)
[06:32] <TGPO> go ahead xeon111
[06:32] <Rookie-> !ask
[06:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:32] <xeon111> k
[06:32] <xeon111> when ever i try to access ubuntu
[06:32] <xeon111> i mean my other hard disks on ubuntu
[06:32] <xeon111> it says unable to mount drives
[06:32] <AdamKili> what arguement do i add to start a program in the tray? e.g. $  gaim --argument
[06:32] <Trixsey> Guys, I've been messing around with skins in ubuntu and it whacked out, I got huge text everywhere and stuff.. anywhere I can reset? :P
[06:32] <Jordan_U> !partitions | xeon111
[06:32] <ubotu> xeon111: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:32] <_zardoz_> how would I update glibc from 2.3 to 2.4?
[06:33] <Jordan_U> !ntfs | xeon
[06:33] <QuantumG> _zardoz_: painfully
[06:33] <xeon111> can i access them without formatting them
[06:33] <freemind>  hello, I am trying to boot with a ramdisk and get: Mounting none on /proc failed: No such file or directory .. the procfs is enabled in the kernel, what could be wrong?
[06:33] <Jordan_U> xeon111: Sorry, gave you the wrong link at first :)
[06:33] <kamui> crimsun: thanks, looks like I already had rm set up to play, just had to use xine instead of totem
[06:33] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, I ran fdisk, then just did "w"; Now I ran gparted, and it's still "stuck" on Scanning all devices, but I can hear hard disk usage...
[06:33] <bruenig> AdamKili, if it is possible it would depend on the program. do gaim -h, to see what the arguments are
[06:33] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, maybe it's just painfully slow.
[06:34] <xeon111> er is there any other way wthout formatting
[06:34] <TGPO> xeon yes, scroll back and read the help files that were listed for you
[06:34] <Trixsey> Rookie-: I've been messing around with skins in ubuntu and it whacked out, I got huge text everywhere and stuff.. anywhere I can reset? :P
[06:34] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, sounds strange ! i have 3 puters with 3 diff. dists and none have that prob ...
[06:34] <Jordan_U> xeon111: Yes there is, there is no need to format, I gave you the wrong link when it talked about formatting.
[06:35] <Rookie-> Trixsey, im not so good at GUI things ... sorry
[06:35] <AdamKili> bruenig thanks no argument is listed that's what I need
[06:35] <Trixsey> oh ok
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, I've had many probs with this particular step, on dapper AND edgy.  I usually just use the alternate CD
[06:35] <graeme> Is there any proper Internet TV for linux ?
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> !info democracytv
[06:35] <graeme> I don't really like democracy player ... :-)
[06:35] <bruenig> AdamKili, mine opens in the tray only by itself for whatever reason
[06:35] <BHSPitLappy> ah
[06:35] <ubotu> Package democracytv does not exist in any distro I know
[06:35] <AdamKili> bruenig: weird
[06:35] <bruenig> AdamKili, do you have automatic login, that is probably necessary
[06:35] <graeme> BHSPitLappy: it doens't have any proper channels. Just some video/podcast homemade kinda things ...
[06:35] <AdamKili> no
[06:36] <graeme> that's no good, I want to watch live rugby ...
[06:36] <bruenig> AdamKili, yeah it has to prompt you if you don't have auto login
[06:36] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, report it as a bug - or atleast mention it to the staff what you have occuried
[06:36] <AdamKili> bruenig: oh well i wont worry about it. others use my comp sometimes so no auto-login, and besides it's nice to know who's online anyway
[06:36] <bruenig> graeme, democracy is terrible, I will agree with you there
[06:37] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, the console I got from gparted is def. interesting. Something about a loop, which explains a lot.
[06:37] <Jordan_U> xeon111: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:37] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, loop ? what kind of loop ? loop of gparted ?
[06:37] <graeme> bruenig: it's a waste of time,
[06:37] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, yeah.
[06:37] <bruenig> graeme, what do you mean internet tv. If you want to view flash videos or other imbedded stuff, you can do that in firefox. If you want to torrent stuff, you can do that and view it with totem or another media player. There is no need for that super app
[06:37] <xeon111> thx
[06:37] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, I'll get it again in a minute.
[06:38] <xeon111> i will try it
[06:38] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, i would be very careful at this moment ... risk for the disk
[06:38] <graeme> bruenig: well I have a need for a proper TV channel surfer, kinda like that one ... <babo can't remember the name of the windows one>
[06:38] <BHSPitLappy> Rookie-, I'm going with the Alternate Cd
[06:39] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, im at the channel but might be afk
[06:39] <jtf0518> now if we could just get the developers to make a DirectX emulator for Wine we could play all the cool games that'll only run on Windows.
[06:39] <bruenig> graeme, maybe it is one of those things you need once you have used it. I have never used any of those for any amount of time.
[06:39] <[SUDO] Tux> hey jordan_u?
[06:39] <graeme> bruenig: well, I'd like to watch HBO and international sports ..
[06:40] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U:  What was the name of that N64 Emulator?
[06:40] <jtf0518> mupen64
[06:40] <[SUDO] Tux> thanks
[06:40] <QuantumG> sorry, I missed the start of the conversation, graeme are you after a hardware recommendation for a tv card for linux?
[06:40] <graeme> what's the best way to uninstall a .deb package ?
[06:40] <khaije1> jtf0518: cedega has this, but are you sure wine doesn't?
[06:40] <Rookie-> http://mupen64.emulation64.com/
[06:41] <jtf0518> not sure, khaije1
[06:41] <graeme> QuantumG: nope, I just wanted a app so I could channel surf. Not interested in any extra hardware. Just an internet based thingy ...
[06:41] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: How do i get a game for it?
[06:41] <graeme> What's the name of hte windows one ?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> graeme: apt-get remove packagename, or any of the other apt interfaces
[06:41] <QuantumG> "channel surf"
[06:41] <QuantumG> wtf does that mean?
[06:42] <jtf0518> QuantumG, do you happen to have any recommendations for a TV Tuner card for Linux?
[06:42] <[SUDO] Tux> JTF0518: how do u get games for it?
[06:42] <Rookie-> jumping in channels on irc ?
[06:42] <cablesm102> Is anybody having trouble with GTK themes on Edgy? Whenever I install one, controls just appear plain, like Windows 9x sort of.
[06:42] <QuantumG> jtf0518: nah, was just trying to understand what graeme was talking about
[06:43] <graeme> tonyyarusso: but that's only if it was install by synaptic or the repos right ? ... I downloaded a .deb and install it with dpkg
[06:43] <blanky> hey guys, what's the correct line
[06:43] <b33r-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31151/ I get this error when I try to compile x-chat can anyone help?
[06:43] <blanky> /etc/initr.d/sshd restart ?
[06:43] <graeme> What's the name of the Internet P2P TV network ?
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> graeme: Nope, you can remove any deb that way.
[06:43] <Despised> can anyone recommend a place to start programming on linux?
[06:43] <[SUDO] Tux> How do i start to get games for Mupen64?
[06:43] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Mupen64 , you have to look on bittorrent.
[06:44] <QuantumG> graeme: dpkg deinstall blah.deb is probably what you're after
[06:44] <Jordan_U> Despised: python.org
[06:44] <eck> Despised: in what language?
[06:44] <xeon111> er where do i execute the mounting script
[06:44] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: Whats bittorrent?
[06:44] <Despised> any language is good with me
[06:44] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: It is like limewire but for more than music.
[06:44] <cablesm102> [SUDO] Tux, you need to download ROMs
[06:44] <cablesm102> this is usually illegal
[06:45] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: How do i run it?
[06:45] <graeme> QuantumG: there is no dpkg uninstall command ....
[06:45] <cablesm102> [SUDO] Tux, it should be preinstalled in Ubuntu
[06:45] <xeon111> where do i execute the diskmount script
[06:45] <wm_eddie> Is the maintainer of the pydance package around?
[06:45] <xeon111> where and how do i execute diskmount script
[06:45] <[SUDO] Tux> How do i open it?
[06:45] <cablesm102> [SUDO] Tux, you can go to a torrent site like piratebay.org to look for .torrent files of N64 ROMs. It's illegal to download ROMs though.
[06:46] <eck> Despised: if you want to do real unix/linux hacking try to find some older unix programming books, if you want to try python or something not C then any book will do (there won't be as much OS specific things)
[06:46] <QuantumG> it's deinstall
[06:46] <DanielV> Ubuntu 6, Allegro library not running WINDOWED mode with compiled package. Followed the same steps on FC5 and runs windowed mode perfect. Any suggestion?
[06:46] <graeme> tonyyarusso: nope, it just tells me that it can't find it ...
[06:46] <[SUDO] Tux> How can i run it. I think i've seen it before?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> graeme: ... apt-cache policy packagename will report debs installed that way
[06:47] <eck> at my school there are tons of unix books in the libraries that have everything I needed to learn to learn about the posix interfaces
[06:47] <cablesm102> [SUDO] Tux, any .torrent file should automatically open in Bittorrent
[06:47] <QuantumG> dpkg -r pkg.deb sorry
[06:47] <Seeker2599> is there a way i can turn a folder into a zip or rar file?
[06:47] <cablesm102> [SUDO] Tux, here's a good article on what BitTorrent is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bittorrent
[06:47] <QuantumG> --purge if you want to remove configuration files as well
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Seeker2599: Right click on it and go to "create archive"
[06:48] <cablesm102> Seeker2599, Ubuntu comes with an archiving program.
[06:48] <graeme> graeme@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -r democracy*
[06:48] <graeme> dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[06:48] <xeon111> er im asking something if any one is free please answer it
[06:48] <xeon111> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:48] <xeon111> the script given how can i run it
[06:48] <[SUDO] Tux> Cablesm102: I'm confused...
[06:49] <Seeker2599> ty cablesm102
[06:49] <graeme> actually on second thoughts, I think I'll just forget about uninstalling it...
[06:49] <cablesm102> [SUDO] Tux, can I PM you?
[06:49] <QuantumG> hehe
[06:49] <[SUDO] Tux> cablesm102: how?
[06:49] <graeme> how does something so easy become so complicated ... :-(
[06:49] <xeon111> ....
[06:50] <QuantumG> yeah, that's the joy of using command line tools
[06:50] <t3m17> how do you get google video to work with swiftfox in edgy eft?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> xeon111: Just open the terminal and type the commands given.
[06:50] <compudaze> graeme: what r u trying to uninstall?
[06:50] <graeme> compudaze: democracytv
[06:50] <graeme> not from the repos ...
[06:51] <xeon111> thx Atlast i fund
[06:51] <xeon111> sry
[06:51] <xeon111> found out
[06:51] <compudaze> a deb u manually installed?
[06:51] <graeme> compudaze: yes,
[06:51] <compudaze> what was the filename?
[06:51] <Volodya> http://www.xnview.com
[06:51] <DanielV> Whats the name of the Audio Codec used with MPGs?
[06:51] <drunkpikachu> does anyone here know a solution to the beryl splash screen -> white nothing desktop issue?
[06:52] <Jordan_U> drunkpikachu: Try #beryl or #ubuntu-xgl
[06:52] <graeme> So basically I"m just trying to get a cool system up with various pieces of useful software so I can hand it off to a non-techie friend. I'm thinking though, that sadly, Linux still isn't really there yet in this regard ... :-( .
[06:52] <drunkpikachu> Jordan_U: thanks
[06:53] <graeme> compudaze:  democracyplayer_0.9.1-1ubuntupcf_i386.deb
[06:53] <MrKeuner> hi, I saw a utility application for gnome for renaming multiple files, I cannot remember its name
[06:53] <compudaze> try, sudo apt-get remove democracyplayer
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> graeme: depends on your definition of 'various pieces of useful software'.
[06:53] <xeon111> yaaay
[06:53] <graeme> Although I'll also say, that for my work, I wouldn't be without linux for an afternoon even ...
[06:53] <DanielV> graeme useful software is not too much friendly, is directed to useful people
[06:53] <xeon111> thx for the support
[06:53] <fyrestrtr> graeme: apt-get remove --purge democracyplayer should do it.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> xeon111: No problem :)
[06:54] <compudaze> --purge removes the config files if u want (if any)
[06:54] <saleh> how could i start writing openGL program and how to compile?
[06:54] <Xenguy> MrKeuner: dunno, but there's krename, and even rename (CLI)
[06:54] <connie_lh> Hi. Does anyone here have any experience with mdadm? I have a previously created array and have no idea how to initialize it.
[06:54] <QuantumG> meh, I tend to agree graeme, but I don't think you should draw that conclusion from using command line tools
[06:54] <MrKeuner> Xenguy: there is mrename but that one I saw had a gui
[06:54] <graeme> DanielV: ?
[06:54] <Shadow_mil> I am making a ubuntu wallpaper logo... what color would be ubuntu's "color"  That tan color?
[06:55] <Rookie-> blue or lightblue
[06:55] <Xenguy> MrKeuner: if you want a gui, krename works nicely
[06:55] <xeon111> now second thing
[06:55] <QuantumG> I draw that conclusion from trying to print a file 3 hours ago and still not being able to get it to work.
[06:55] <graeme> fyrestrtr: OK, that did it thanks ...
[06:55] <xeon111> i need sound drivers
[06:55] <Shadow_mil> Hmm
[06:55] <saleh> how could i start writing openGL program and how to compile?
[06:55] <saleh> how could i start writing openGL program and how to compile?
[06:55] <xeon111> my sound card is a soundblaster 16
[06:55] <MrKeuner> Xenguy: thanks but I am a Gnome guy
[06:55] <QuantumG> (after using the gui tools, AND hacking config files myself).
[06:55] <compudaze> xeon111: isa/
[06:55] <compudaze> ?
[06:55] <Shadow_mil> Ill make something up and see what you think of it... I do like blue
[06:55] <bradley> does anyone know if it is possible to set up a nvidia card with two distinct monitors/desktops instead of the twinview one desktop over multiple monitors?
[06:55] <fyrestrtr> Shadow_mil: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[06:55] <Xenguy> MrKeuner: I run gnome desktop and use krename - where's the problem? :-)
[06:56] <connie_lh> bradley: Yes. It's simple.
[06:56] <wm_eddie> saleh: openGL is too complex for newbies, try looking at pygame first or something. http://www.pygame.org
[06:56] <QuantumG> bradley: yep, with much xorg.conf hacking foo
[06:56] <connie_lh> bradley: Just don't use twinview. And set up two screens.
[06:56] <bradley> connie_lh, QuantumG  is there a good example or howto somewhere?
[06:57] <bradley> i've checked out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOut
[06:57] <QuantumG> probably, but I don't know how sorry, saw it a year or more ago
[06:57] <saleh> wm_eddie: i'm student and this sem we r learning openGL as computer graphic
[06:57] <[sYn] > bradley, what benefit would it bring over using TwinView?
[06:57] <connie_lh> bradley: Same setup as a xinerama minus the xinerama flag.
[06:57] <fyrestrtr> saleh: find a programming language that you like, and then read up on its opengl bindings.
[06:58] <DanielV> Here is a joke a friend told me.  No way, you do it, Guy A.- sudo bring me a sandwich, Guy B.- Yes sir!
[06:58] <saleh> wm_eddie: i installed ubuntu 2days ago and donno what to do...
[06:58] <ClayG> whats the best distro for a old computer?
[06:58] <ClayG> non-live (no dsl)
[06:58] <bradley> sYn, it would allow me to use beryl easier and not have my desktop picture disappear and i could trun off the projector without losing half my desktop
[06:58] <fyrestrtr> ClayG: any compile-from-source distro, like gentoo.
[06:58] <eck> ClayG: I don't think its a distro issue, probably more about what desktop environment and apps
[06:58] <Jordan_U> ClayG: depending on how old, xubuntu
[06:59] <ClayG> i was thinkiung gentoo
[06:59] <connie_lh> clayg: I'm with fyrestrtr
[06:59] <ClayG> didnt know if it was hard to install
[06:59] <MrKeuner> Xenguy: It takes longer for KDE application to run under gnome
[06:59] <eck> gentoo will be a pita unless you do distcc
[06:59] <wm_eddie> saleh: the openGL package is called mesa in Linux
[06:59] <connie_lh> clayg: With the handbook it's cake.
[06:59] <bradley> connie_lh, great i will search for a xinerama howto and do some trial and error
[06:59] <saleh> wm_eddie: we use C++ in windows and codeblocks to write openGL program
[06:59] <Jordan_U> ClayG: Just be ready for days of commpiling....
[06:59] <fyrestrtr> ClayG: they have improved the install process recently.
[06:59] <saleh> oh...
[06:59] <saleh> ok
[06:59] <ClayG> what is distcc?
[06:59] <[sYn] > bradley, Ah! not using 2 monitors side by side :)..  I asked the question out of curiosity as I'm running twinview now and can't see the benefits of not base don the fact that I have 2 monitors right next to each other :)
[06:59] <compudaze> ClayG: u basicly follow step by step on the install
[06:59] <eck> distcc lets you compile your apps on a faster computer
[06:59] <Borat> hey guys, whenever i start emerald themer 1.1 it freezes, does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:59] <compudaze> ClayG: pretty easy, but if u want to run X get ready for days of compiling
[07:00] <saleh> so i should indtall mesa and then compile ???
[07:00] <xeon111> how can i install drivers for my sound blaster 16 soundcard
[07:00] <fyrestrtr> ClayG: distributed c compiler (I think). Allows many computers to simultaneously compile a program.
[07:00] <wm_eddie> saleh: Try looking for the mesa-dev packages in System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager
[07:00] <eck> but honestly, gentoo will not make your applications any faster
[07:00] <crimsun> xeon111: sudo modprobe snd-sb16
[07:00] <bradley> sYn, yeah i imagine it is great for lots of stuff but i only need it to watch movies. :)
[07:00] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: i need some help!
[07:00] <xeon111> thanks
[07:00] <crimsun> xeon111: what does that command (in a terminal) do?
[07:00] <xeon111> crimsun i ll try that
[07:00] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Sure.
[07:00] <eck> if there were any tangible speed benefits from using custom use flags, the packagers for whatever distro you are using would be using them in the spec file
[07:00] <wm_eddie> saleh: Also make sure you have the build-essential package installed too.
[07:00] <[sYn] > bradley, Well good luck on your search, sorry I can't be of any help :(!
[07:01] <connie_lh> mdadm experience... anyone?
[07:01] <xeon111> nothing
[07:01] <saleh> wm_eddie: thx, and after insstalling that i just normally compile? like other c++programs?
[07:01] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: one sec...
[07:01] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: ok... how do i get ROMS?
[07:01] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: can i PM you?
[07:01] <bradley> [sYn] , no problem.
[07:02] <wm_eddie> saleh: build-essential will install everything you need to compile C/C++ programs.  You might need to install a few more -dev packages to comile against the libraries.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: Yes, you can pm me, but you need to be registered to pm.
[07:02] <bony> i followed all the instructions for making a commarcial dvd to play on my laptop. inspite of everything getting installed properly on the system i am unable to play it. can any one suggest a solution for this ?
[07:02] <xeon111> crimsun: it seems it did nothing
[07:02] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: can u see my posts?
[07:02] <Staz> Hi, fglrx is a ATI graphics driver. Then what is "ati"?
[07:02] <compudaze> bony, install libdvdcss2?
[07:02] <wm_eddie> saleh: But wich -dev package you need depends on the library you are using.  If you are only using openGL then the mesa-dev packages should be all you need.
[07:02] <crimsun> xeon111: excellent. What does ``asoundconf list'' return?
[07:02] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: i can see yers
[07:02] <bony> compudaze, yes i did that
[07:02] <Xenguy> bony: try vlc
[07:02] <Jordan_U> [SUDO] Tux: No, you need to register on freenode.
[07:03] <bony> Xenguy, i will try that
[07:03] <compudaze> vlc is good
[07:03] <[sYn] > vlc is the best :D
[07:03] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U: i was just PMing cable
[07:03] <[SUDO] Tux> thats odd
[07:03] <QuantumG> I get my roms from ROMNation, it owns
[07:03] <Tokenbad> ok I made a huge mistake and wonder if can fix it without doing a whole reinstall...I had a var dir on my slave drive for vms from vmware....and I wanted to remove it...so did sudo rm -r /var/
[07:04] <Tokenbad> and it did the var from my OS disk...
[07:04] <bony> but my point is that i used to play dvds with brezee badger 5.10 there was no problem. it was after i upgraded to dapper that i am facing this problem :-(
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> Tokenbad: lol
[07:04] <Tokenbad> is there a way to replace the files there
[07:04] <bony> i use totem for playing cd's or dvd's
[07:04] <QuantumG> Tokenbad: no, you're boned
[07:04] <fyrestrtr> Tokenbad: from a backup, yes :)
[07:05] <graeme> does anyone know how I can get those interent radio channels ? what app do I need ? I thought it used to be in ubuntu by default ?
[07:05] <[> test
[07:05] <Tokenbad> ok so basicly I will have to do a full reinstall then huh...?
[07:05] <[> darn
[07:05] <QuantumG> not that /var is supposed to contain anything that isn't recreated after a reboot, but it probably does
[07:05] <fyrestrtr> graeme: sudo aptitude -r install streamtuner
[07:05] <xeon111> crimsun:Names of available sound cards:
[07:05] <xeon111> S16
[07:05] <crimsun> xeon111: excellent, now: ``echo snd-sb16 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules''
[07:05] <saleh> wm_eddie: there is no mesa-dev package
[07:05] <graeme> fyrestrtr: thanks
[07:05] <[> how do i change my username?
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> [: your login?
[07:06] <wm_eddie> saleh: they are names libgl-something something-mesa-dev
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> [: or your username on irc?
[07:06] <QuantumG> /nick
[07:06] <crimsun> saleh: libgl1-mesa-dev
[07:06] <xeon111> crimsun:snd-sb16
[07:06] <igcek> does anzbodz know a page with good (working) how to for ati?
[07:06] <crimsun> xeon111: good, now enjoy your music
[07:06] <igcek> 6.10
[07:06] <saleh> wm_eddie: but it already installed
[07:06] <fyrestrtr> igcek: the same instructions for 6.06 apply for 6.10
[07:06] <MrKeuner> [
[07:06] <andy> HI i am a real newb just installed 2 days ago having trouble getting nvidia-glx going?
[07:06] <tux> test
[07:07] <tux> hello
[07:07] <igcek> fyrestrtr: but, do dhez work?
[07:07] <Jordan_U> [: you already did :) /nick <newnick>
[07:07] <Tux> okay got it
[07:07] <wm_eddie> saleh: Do you have build-essental installed?
[07:07] <fyrestrtr> igcek: yes.
[07:07] <Tux> jordan_u im working on it
[07:07] <freemind>  hello, I am trying to boot with a ramdisk and get: Mounting none on /proc failed: No such file or directory .. the procfs is enabled in the kernel, what could be wrong?
[07:07] <Staz> If I have two "Device" sections in xorg.conf, how do I know which one will be used?
[07:07] <saleh> wm_eddie: yes i do bc i can compile c++ programs and run
[07:07] <Staz> ie : choose between em
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Tux: Try pming me agian, I have set it so I can allow unregistered users.
[07:08] <andy>  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:08] <andy> Password:
[07:08] <andy> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:08] <andy> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:08] <andy> andy@andy-desktop:~$
[07:08] <xeon111> i still cant heard anything :(
[07:08] <Tux> u see it?
[07:08] <supervisor> how used ubuntu server
[07:08] <xeon111> and on mp3 files it says
[07:08] <saleh> wm_eddie: compiling openGL is not different with cpp ???
[07:08] <eck> freemind: I think you are using the wrong syntax for mount
[07:08] <xeon111> you need a plugin or decoder
[07:09] <wm_eddie> saleh: Then you have everything you need.  Follow the instructions on mesa's website on how to write an application.
[07:09] <graeme> there's no TVUPlayer for Linux ? ... damn. That was the killer app.
[07:09] <saleh> ok
[07:09] <wm_eddie> saleh: http://www.mesa3d.org/
[07:09] <freemind> eck: I also tried "mount -t proc none /proc" - same effekt -> "proc: file not found"
[07:09] <SUDO_Tux> test
[07:09] <eetfunk> I'm trying to remove mysql-server completely and reinstall, but apt-get doesn't delete the settings file or reinstall them (even if i remove them manually).  What should I do?
[07:09] <saleh> wm_eddie: thanks
[07:09] <supervisor> thanks
[07:09] <SUDO_Tux> can u hear me jordan_u
[07:09] <james_> hey guys
[07:09] <QuantumG> eetfunk: dpkg --purge mysql-server
[07:10] <eetfunk> QuantumG: thnx
[07:10] <james_> is there a specific channel for enabling GLDesktop, etc on Ubuntu? (i'm using edgy eft and I cant get it to work)
[07:10] <Clubbed> hi, when I try to install the nVidia drivers it says I am running server X and that to install them I need to be out of server X, how do i do that?
[07:10] <andy> hi can any one help me Im trying to get nvidia to work properly: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:10] <andy> Password:
[07:10] <andy> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:10] <andy> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:10] <andy> andy@andy-desktop:~$
[07:10] <eck> freemind: shouldn't it be mount -t proc proc /proc
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> freemind: you need to makedev /proc first.
[07:11] <graeme> Why is bootpc listening on foreign ports over udp ?
[07:11] <techNiKal> is there any way to make my ubunt dapper secure and allow only one service samba to be enabled ?
[07:11] <freemind> thank you, I will try that now
[07:11] <graeme> vanilla dapper install ?
[07:11] <xeon111> where can i get decoders
[07:11] <cable_guy> hi
[07:11] <Acura> is there an easy way to remove all programs except those that were in installed with the operating system?
[07:11] <Xenguy> !codecs > xeon111
[07:11] <xeon111> it says i need decoders to pay mp3 files
[07:11] <fyrestrtr> techNiKal: use can use update-rc.d or bum (boot up manager) to control what services start at startup. Some are needed though (like a cron process).
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> Acura: re-install the system.
[07:12] <Despised> does anyone know how to get input from the user in python?
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> xeon111: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:12] <eck> Despised: raw_input()
[07:12] <fyrestrtr> Despised: folks in #python might :)
[07:12] <Despised> oh alright thanks
[07:12] <techNiKal> fyrestrtr do you have any tutorial about ubuntu security or what you just said ?
[07:12] <Acura> fyrestrtr, without reinstalling it (because something is crashign when i try to do taht)
[07:12] <eetfunk> dpkg --purge doesnt seem to remove the config files and apt-get doesnt create new ones.  Any other ides?
[07:12] <Clubbed> hi, when I try to install the nVidia drivers it says I am running server X and that to install them I need to be out of server X, how do i do that?
[07:13] <eck> Despised: if you want to learn python, I recommend the apress book
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> techNiKal: no, I don't know of a tutorial (manage to secure it "manually") but I'm sure there is something at the ubuntu wiki -- have you tried there already?
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> Acura: what error message do you get?
[07:13] <cable_guy> is there an easy, safe way to install flash player 9 beta on ubuntu edgy?
[07:13] <fyrestrtr> Clubbed: ctrl+alt+f1, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then type the command to run the installer.
[07:13] <KingOfNowhere> yeah flash player 9 is easy to install
[07:14] <Clubbed> thank you
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> Clubbed: oh you must also login first.
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> ctrl+alt+f1, login, then ....
[07:14] <Acura> fyrestrtr, it says Uncompressing Linux, then   [xxxx.xx]  timeout waiting for dma, or something similar to that
[07:14] <cable_guy> KingOfNowhere: where can i get it?
[07:14] <fyrestrtr> Acura: you can disable dma.
[07:14] <DanielV>  /join #electronics
[07:14] <eck> cable_guy: back up the old so file, and replace it with the new one... it is fiarly safe/easy
[07:15] <fyrestrtr> Acura: do you already have linux installed?
[07:15] <bony> its working i just tried to play a dvd and i could play it perfectly even with dvd menus. but now i have a problem regarding brightness and contrast of the video. the video is very bright. i tried to set the settings that are there in totems dislpay option but is there any auto process using which i could set the brightness and contrast fo the video?
[07:15] <Acura> fyrestrtr, yea, but i wanted to install a clean version over the top
[07:16] <fyrestrtr> well if you are after a clean version, the easiest way is to reinstall the system. If you install on top, no guarantees of cleanliness.
[07:17] <KingOfNowhere> cable_guy: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html - Download link
[07:17] <fyrestrtr> Acura: if you have some spare disk space, create another partition, mount it as /home, copy all your user files and then reinstall the base system. This way you won't delete your documents and user settings.
[07:18] <Acura> ok will do
[07:19] <KingOfNowhere> cable_guy: download the player and move the 'libflashplayer.so' file into the approriate directory (for firefox it is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins)
[07:19] <fyrestrtr> and as for your dma problem, you can disable dma from either your bios, or by the /nodma (or similar, forgot the exact command) switch at the boot: prompt (you'll need the alternate install cd for it)
[07:20] <FantasticFoo> will this work for getting compiz on dapper? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Xgl-Compiz-Dapper
[07:21] <FantasticFoo> or is it going to screw something up
[07:22] <Mantice> How to I install the ATI.com drivers for edgy ???
[07:22] <james_> my titlebars are dissapearing when I enable xgl.... darn you delicious, buggy alpha software :)
[07:23] <Vich> ubuntu is too easy to setup
[07:23] <Vich> I don't feel a sense of accomplishment having installed ubuntu and gotten everything working
[07:23] <FantasticFoo> Vich: i know what you mean. heheh
[07:24] <Vich> I mean, even got the extra buttons on my logitech keyboard working
[07:24] <Vich> AND my digital speakers
[07:24] <eternalswd> I just uninstalled fglrx.  I'd like to try the open source alternative.  What is the package name for the ati driver?
[07:24] <Vich> my only gripe is that my webcam (logitech quickcam im) light comes on at startup and stays on
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> eternalswd: its already installed, just change 'fglrx' to 'ati' in xorg.conf
[07:24] <sysdoc> Vich, Sucks don't it?? lol
[07:24] <Mantice> Can some one help me install the drivers off ATI.com ????
[07:25] <Vich> it's only supposed to come on when I'm using it
[07:25] <Vich> so I get paranoid that people are watching me
[07:25] <eternalswd> fyrestrtr, thanks
[07:25] <Vich> running a webcam app then closing said app turns the light off
[07:25] <Vich> in fact, the webcam (of course) works great
[07:25] <Vich> but if there was a way I could stop it starting up, that would be awesome
[07:26] <Vich> like stop it initializing or whatever it's doing
[07:26] <fyrestrtr> only plug it in when you are using it.
[07:26] <Vich> that is one solution
[07:26] <Vich> but alike my current solution of running and closing a webcam program
[07:26] <Vich> it's too cumbersome
[07:27] <FantasticFoo> Vich: i know how to give yourself a sense of accomplishment.
[07:27] <Vich> figure out how to solve this myself?
[07:27] <james_> Get xgl working, that should give you a sense of accomplishment
[07:27] <shrndegruv> is there a guide to enabling hibernate on laptops?
[07:28] <Vich> xgl eh?
[07:28] <james_> lol the 3D graphics, wobbling windows, that sort
[07:28] <FantasticFoo> Vich: nope. get xgl/compiz running without screwing up your entire machine
[07:28] <james_> Yep!
[07:28] <james_> I just uninstalled all the components
[07:28] <Vich> lol
[07:28] <james_> I'm tired of trying every method imagineable and getting nowhere
[07:28] <FantasticFoo> yeah, it's ridiculously impossible
[07:28] <Vich> I'll try that later
[07:29] <james_> I want my wobbly windows :(
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> if that's accomplishment, then I must feel like a king because I have it working on dual screens -- yet, I don't.
[07:29] <FantasticFoo> james_: i actually did have it working before
[07:29] <FantasticFoo> james_: it's really cool
[07:29] <sysdoc> FantasticFoo, I just got it installed this evening, wasn't bad at all
[07:29] <james_> bah!
[07:29] <FantasticFoo> sysdoc: on dapper or what?
[07:29] <james_> how'd you do it sysdoc?
[07:29] <sysdoc> yup
[07:29] <james_> i'm on edgy
[07:29] <FantasticFoo> sysdoc: please tell me what tutorial you followed. :|
[07:29] <Vich> I am also on edgy
[07:30] <hentai> I'm pretty edgy myself. too much coffee i suppose...
[07:30] <james_> haha
[07:30] <Vich> lol hentai
[07:30] <Vich> you japanese pervert you
[07:30] <fyrestrtr> http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png :)
[07:30] <Staz> I think I buggered up xorg.conf and it wont load. How can I get back into ubuntu and replace it with the backup I made?
[07:30] <sysdoc> FantasticFoo, hang on getting it now
[07:31] <sysdoc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[07:31] <james_> I'm on edgy, using nvidia drivers
[07:31] <hentai> SAME
[07:31] <hentai> oops, left cruise control on
[07:32] <james_> so sysdoc, install xgl first, then follow this?
[07:32] <fyrestrtr> Staz: ctrl+alt+f1, login, then sudo cp backup-xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:32] <hentai> my external hdd is mounted as a vfat filesystem, and it says root owns it. but root can't change the permissions so that everyone can write to it. what can i do to fix this problem?
[07:32] <graeme> is videolan in the repos ?
[07:32] <FantasticFoo> sysdoc: oh, thanks!!
[07:32] <Staz> fyrestrtr : I cant get past the progress bar screen
[07:32] <hentai> graeme: vlc media player is, if that's what you're asking.
[07:32] <Staz> ie : ctrl f1 wont work
[07:32] <bony> i am unable to play a vcd
[07:33] <Staz> ctrl+alt+f1*
[07:33] <sysdoc> james_, I installed the newest nvidia driver then> this one to get Xgl in the session chooser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl#head-b9d0ad31fc5a1f8cd66c5d871d27f01cfa27d137
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Staz: sounds like something else is happening. What was the last thing you did?
[07:33] <Staz> I only edited xorg.conf
[07:33] <hentai> what did you edit in xorg.conf?
[07:33] <blanky> is there a way I can change my local ip address
[07:34] <shrndegruv> guys doc for getting hibernate functionality on a laptop?
[07:34] <hentai> blanky, are you behind a router?
[07:34] <sysdoc> I actually used like 5 different pages, if ya want them pm me
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> Staz: reboot the system, activate the grub menu (hit esc quickly). Then, edit the boot entry for your kernel and remove the 'quiet' line, then boot with it and see where its hanging.
[07:34] <Staz> I had two "Device" sections. I removed one and replace the driver in the other one with "fglrx" (stypid I know)
[07:34] <blanky> hentai, yeah, it's becuase my windows lan address is different from my linux and all my things on my router aren't applying to me
[07:34] <sysdoc> shrndegruv, you looking for suspend2?
[07:35] <hentai> ah, if you use gnome go to System > Administration > Networking and configure your device
[07:35] <shrndegruv> is that how i get the laptop to suspend?
[07:35] <sysdoc> shrndegruv, well that is one wy to do it yea
[07:35] <blanky> hentai, sorry, im on kde, you know how to do it that way?
[07:36] <shrndegruv> yeah where are the docs for the different options?
[07:36] <Staz> fyrestrtr : I removed quiet line, but nothing changed when I booted
[07:36] <hentai> blanky, sorry, no clue. other than editing /etc/network/interfaces
[07:36] <fyrestrtr> Staz: you need to boot with the change (hit b to boot with the edited line). If you just edit it and reboot, it boots with the default settings.
[07:36] <blanky> hentai, I could just edit that?
[07:36] <sysdoc> shrndegruv, see this forum page and then search around for your laptop http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=135
[07:36] <hentai> blanky, i don't see what's stopping you.
[07:37] <Staz> fyrestrtr : I did that
[07:37] <blanky> hentai, I'll try thanks
[07:37] <shrndegruv> thanx
[07:37] <shrndegruv> :q
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> Staz: if you still saw the progress bar, then it didn't boot with your change.
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> Staz: boot in recovery mode, that should atleast give you a working console.
[07:38] <hentai> someone please help me change the permissions of my external drive. it won't let the owner (root) change the permissions so all users can write to it.
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> hentai: remont the drive with umask=0777
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> s/remont/remount
[07:39] <graeme_> can anyone help me troubleshoot sound for dapper ?
[07:39] <Staz> fyrestrtr ; Its very strange I follow your exact instructions but boot does not change at all.
[07:39] <Staz> how can I boot in recovery mode?
[07:39] <blanky> hentai, it says # DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE
[07:39] <fyrestrtr> Staz: there should be a menu entry in grub for a recovery console.
[07:39] <graeme> I can't get the sound to work on my dapper ...
[07:41] <crimsun> graeme: ``asoundconf list'' (in a terminal)
[07:41] <hentai> blanky, that's probably there for a reason >_>
[07:41] <blanky> hentai, yeah lol but you said I could edit it, so...can I?
[07:41] <graeme> crimsun: Names of available sound cards:
[07:41] <graeme> CMI8738
[07:41] <Mantice> Can some one help me install the drivers off ATI.com ????
[07:42] <crimsun> graeme: and is any sound audible?
[07:42] <james_> well, as you can see
[07:42] <graeme> crimsun: nope
[07:42] <james_> I did that tutorial, and lost my titlebars
[07:42] <crimsun> graeme: pastebin ``amixer''
[07:42] <james_> window decorations
[07:42] <blanky> when was 6.06 released? what month?
[07:42] <blanky> time flew, it feels like just yesterday when 6.06 was released
[07:42] <hentai> blanky, probably not. i just used the gnome gui to configure my settings
[07:43] <hentai> fyrestrtr: how do i add umask to the mount command?
[07:43] <lastnode> heikki, umask=000 for example
[07:43] <graeme> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/246474 ... cheers for the help dude .... :-)
[07:43] <pricklysponge> hey
[07:43] <pricklysponge> I have a question for anyone out there
[07:44] <hentai> sudo mount umask=0777 -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /media/LACIE ?
[07:44] <pricklysponge> using Xchat, how do I view all the people on the channel I'm on?
[07:44] <bony> i am able to play dvds with menus and plain onces too. but i am unable to play vcd. can any one suggest how to make them play? or what are the packages that have to be installed?
[07:44] <sysdoc> lol, beryl is just freaking cool!! Everyone should install this lil puppy!
[07:44] <pricklysponge> the list of the right side
[07:44] <pricklysponge> i've seen it in pictures
[07:44] <crimsun> graeme: amixer set 'IEC958 5V' off && amixer set 'IEC958 In Phase Inverse' off && amixer set 'Line-In Mode' 'Rear Output'
[07:44] <bony> totem says no plugin to play the vcd
[07:44] <hentai> bony, try vlc
[07:45] <fyrestrtr> Mantice: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-26e8b0d4be861a6b7c545dc21c45232f909d8ca2
[07:45] <pricklysponge> using Xchat, how do I view all the people on the channel I'm on?
[07:45] <graeme> bony: get vlc instead ... sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:45] <bony> yeah its working in vlc
[07:46] <Staz> YEAHHAAA! Thankyou so much fyrestrtr
[07:46] <Mantice> fyrestrty: I have edgy tho
[07:46] <bony> but what i want is when i insert the cd in to cd drive totem should automatically play it the way it plays dvds
[07:47] <pricklysponge> How do I see user list in Xchat?
[07:47] <sin> hi
[07:47] <graeme> crimsun: yeah, but still no luck I"m afraid ...
[07:47] <pricklysponge> using Xchat, how do I view all the people on the channel I'm on?
[07:47] <crimsun> graeme: which output jack are you using?
[07:48] <sin> anyone know a good samba file browser with a gui that will let me mount shares from my windows box?
[07:48] <Mantice> ./ati-installer.sh: 991: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[07:48] <graeme> crimsun: the green one
[07:48] <crimsun> graeme: umm...
[07:48] <crimsun> graeme: I have no idea what that means. Front? Rear?
[07:49] <AdamKili> help when following install instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5 it hangs on connecting to Connecting to ftp.sunet.se|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80...
[07:49] <graeme> crimsun: what do you mean by output jack exactly ?
[07:49] <srankin> sin: Places ... Connect to Server
[07:49] <crimsun> graeme: your chipset driver notes 2 output jacks
[07:49] <sin> oh wow..
[07:49] <graeme> I'm just plugging my headphones into the green socket thing on the sound card...
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> Mantice: read the link I gave you
[07:49] <sin> cuz it kept telling me i had no permissions, im like why isnt it asking me for a L/P!! lol
[07:50] <sin> thank you srankin
[07:50] <joe7d6> anyone using freedb enabled application? im using easytag and having problem with the freedb services. the problems have persist for quite a while i think.
[07:50] <srankin> no prob
[07:50] <pricklysponge> using Xchat, how do I view all the people on the channel I'm on?
[07:51] <Staz> isnt there a bar on the right displaying nicklist? Mine has
[07:51] <crimsun> graeme: try unmuting 'Exchange DAC'
[07:51] <pricklysponge> mine doesnt
[07:51] <eck> pricklysponge: i think in most irc clients it is /who
[07:51] <sin> god, totem is so stupid, it can't play movies from a windows share? can anything ?
[07:51] <graeme> crimsun: how do I do that ?
[07:51] <crimsun> graeme: amixer set 'Exchange DAC' on
[07:51] <james_> yeah, still missing window decorations
[07:51] <crimsun> out for a spell.
[07:51] <pricklysponge> "/who" didnt do anything
[07:51] <thor> sin: try vlc
[07:52] <pricklysponge> im trying to get the bar on the right side
[07:52] <c0re^> hey, is there a ubuntu with the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel already compiled and useable?
[07:52] <pricklysponge> tat has the users
[07:53] <hentai> arg, that didn't help at all
[07:53] <thor> pricklysponge: the bar is there in xchat...move to the left edge of the scrollbar, hold the mouse left button, and move the cursor to the left. This will make the chat window smaller, but will also enlarge the user list
[07:53] <hentai> i mounted /dev/sdd1 with umask=0777 and it told me that not even root can view what's in the folder.
[07:53] <thor> pricklysponge: that should read the 'right' edge of the scrollbar
[07:53] <villr[] ye> um... anyone here use a web interface to log on to a wireless network.
[07:53] <graeme> crimsun: nope that doens't work either I'm afraid ...
[07:53] <pricklysponge> thre got it :D
[07:54] <Rookie-> to see what fps is with glxgears - what the option on that ?
[07:54] <capi_> xfontsel doesn't show me all the fonts, ttf are mainly missing.
[07:54] <pricklysponge> lol thanks a bunch :)
[07:54] <crimsun> graeme: pastebin your /proc/asound/card0/codec*/*
[07:54] <AdamKili> help i'm following instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5 i run the first command, it tries to connect, then times out. can anyone help? also the Canonical repository doesn't work when following those instructions
[07:54] <crimsun> graeme: back in 1 hr
[07:54] <oht> how do you add a refresh rate to the xorg.conf file?
[07:54] <c0re^> hey, is there a ubuntu with the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel already compiled and useable?
[07:54] <crimsun> c0re^: if you mean 2.6.18, no.
[07:54] <oht> (it's only giving 75 hz for my monitor, but i usually run it at 60hz)
[07:54] <crimsun> c0re^: and there is no Ubuntu release with 2.6.1.
[07:54] <graeme> the sound on my dapper doesn't work ? can anyone help ?
[07:55] <c0re^> crimsun: i thought someone said the nightly worked for the jmicron sata controller
[07:55] <c0re^> thats why i need it. the current kernel doesnt support my harddrive.
[07:55] <crimsun> c0re^: meaning a snap of 2.6.19?
[07:55] <srankin> henta: I thought umaskl used octals
[07:55] <c0re^> crimsun: meaning something that will work with my stat controller
[07:56] <c0re^> crimsun: sata*
[07:56] <crimsun> c0re^: I need specifics.
[07:56] <hentai> srankin: explain
[07:56] <Rookie-> to see what fps is with glxgears - what the option on that ?
[07:56] <bony> thor, i am able to play dvds but vcds are not getting played vlc is able to play few of them but i want totem to play the cds. when i had brezee i had no problem playing any thing weather its a dvd or vcd but i am facing lot of problems with the new version
[07:56] <c0re^> crimsun: like my sata controller?
[07:56] <graeme> I'm really not very happy with my dapper install ...
[07:56] <crimsun> c0re^: no, like the kernel you're referring to
[07:56] <Mantice> fyrestrty: I still get same message.
[07:57] <c0re^> crimsun: the kernel im referring to is 2.6.18 which has support for my sata controller
[07:57] <graeme> If I'd just installed windows, I'd be outside enjoying the sunshine at this stage ...
[07:57] <crimsun> c0re^: we don't -- at all -- ship 2.6.18.
[07:57] <c0re^> crimsun: someone said some nightly had it
[07:58] <crimsun> c0re^: then either point me to this mysterious nightly, or give me a reference to whom
[07:58] <Vich> what is beryl?
[07:58] <Vich> is that like xgl?
[07:58] <hentai> beryl is a window manager that goes with xgl to make it do all the cool stuff it does
[07:59] <Vich> awesome
[07:59] <Vich> I'm installing that now
[07:59] <thor> anyone know how to remove the 'on top' property from the toolbars in gnome?
[07:59] <hentai> right click the titlebar
[07:59] <chapium> thor, there might be an option in gnome-conf
[07:59] <c0re^> crimsun: im looking for the nightly myself. it was on some random forum i found on google. two other distributions ive tried that has 2.6.18 run, but wont install due to not finding disks or my harddrive isnt seen.
[08:00] <Vich> brb
[08:00] <AsheD> why can't I edit /etc/sudoers ?
[08:00] <abes> Hey everyone! I have a volume issue. I have function keyes that put the volume up and down and indeed a little bar appears showing it going down and up, but that's "Headphone" volume so the main volume doesnt change at all - how can i change it?
[08:00] <c0re^> crimsun: i use the asus p5b deluxe wifi ap ed
[08:00] <thor> chapium: I thought gnome-conf was a command...but it doesn't respond
[08:00] <c0re^> crimsun: for my mobo
[08:00] <chapium> thor: I cant remember what its called.  I think its gconf or something
[08:00] <graeme> The alsaconf command doens't respond to anything ?
[08:01] <chapium> thor, gconf-editor
[08:01] <thor> chapium: yup...just found it
[08:01] <wraithsoul> hey
[08:01] <crimsun> c0re^: there seems to be a communication breakdown. We don't ship a 2.6.18 at all. There's 6.10's 2.6.17 or 7.04's 2.6.19.
[08:02] <hentai> i fixed it!
[08:02] <crimsun> graeme: we don't ship alsaconf in alsa-utils; it was removed in Hoary.
[08:02] <c0re^> crimsun: oh, i understand, well i just want any kernel that supports my sata controller or allows me to install, im assuming 2.8.19 will?
[08:02] <hentai> sudo mount -t vfat -o defaults,uid=hentai,gid=hentai /dev/sdd1 /media/LACIE
[08:02] <wraithsoul> I am trying to get pydance to work, and it does not. and I hear that someone already bothered you about it, so are there any DDR type games that are easy to install and are good replacements?
[08:02] <graeme> crimsun: so what am I supposed to do then ?
[08:02] <crimsun> c0re^: you're free to compile your own 2.6.19-rc
[08:02] <graeme> pray ?
[08:02] <wraithsoul> I really do not want to have to compile from source.
[08:02] <Vich> wow
[08:02] <Vich> just wow
[08:02] <c0re^> crimsun: thats the thing, i cant get linux on my system
[08:02] <Vich> beryl is crazy
[08:03] <AdamKili> help i'm following instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5 i run the first command, it tries to connect, then times out. can anyone help? also the Canonical repository doesn't work when following those instructions
[08:03] <Rookie-> to see what fps is with glxgears - whats the option on that ?
[08:03] <crimsun> graeme: alsaconf isn't going to help you fix your mixer levels. Try using aumix, which uses the much simplified oss api.
[08:03] <unikuser> does any one know evolution mail client has "Mark Thread as Read" option in edgy?
[08:03] <c0re^> crimsun: thats why i need a linux installer that runs 2.6.18+ so my hardware is detected
[08:03] <Alex_Palex> re all
[08:03] <graeme> crimsun: I don't care about my mix levels. I just want sound to work ...
[08:03] <graeme> crimsun: flash sound off the internet won't work either ...
[08:04] <crimsun> graeme: your issue is a mixer level, and I'm on the phone so I can't concentrate on your issue atm
[08:04] <villr[] ye>  anyone here use a web interface to log on to a wireless network?
[08:04] <wraithsoul> no
[08:04] <james_> damn, i'm tired
[08:04] <james_> screw beryl/emerald/xgl for now
[08:04] <c0re^> whaaat, its easy to install
[08:04] <sysdoc> lol
[08:04] <james_> oh, not for me
[08:04] <c0re^> well, get sabayonlinux
[08:04] <james_> no matter what I do, i crash X
[08:05] <graeme> crimsun: k thanks anyway ...
[08:05] <c0re^> it comes preinstalled.
[08:05] <graeme> Can someone help me fix my sound on dapper ?
[08:05] <eck> or fedora core 6 ;-)
[08:05] <james_> or, i get missing window decorations, and THEN I crash X
[08:05] <sysdoc> james_, when does X crach?
[08:05] <c0re^> yeh or fc6
[08:05] <sysdoc> crash*
[08:05] <chapium> AdamKili: look for gstreamer extra plugins under add/remove programs, it might help
[08:05] <crimsun> graeme: ask me again in 20 minutes
[08:05] <AdamKili> chapium: will do
[08:05] <AsheD> why can't I save any changes to /etc/sudoers ?
[08:06] <james_> when I try to disable beryl after starting it, or if I restart it after enabling beryl
[08:06] <eck> AsheD: you need to edit the file using visudo
[08:06] <Mantice> Has beryl been removed from the repositys ?
[08:06] <abes> Any idea on how to change which volume is controlled by the volume function keys?
[08:06] <oht> is 32 bit color not possible with X? or was it just not detected correctly?
[08:06] <chapium> AdamKili: a less graceful approach is described somewhere on this page: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[08:07] <_zardoz_> on ubuntu 6.10 my screen goes black and displays no signal after trying to boot live desktop. same thing happens in normal and safe mode. any pointers on how to fix that?
[08:08] <eck> _zardoz_: on the install cd? the use alternate installer
[08:08] <aditsu> hi, how do I tell ubuntu to set the clock to the local time instead of utc?
[08:08] <kvonb> hello, can anyone tell me how to re-install DRI from a term please?  thanks :)
[08:09] <compwiz18> hello
[08:09] <compwiz18> can anyone tell me how i can connect to a wifi network with a hidden essid?
[08:09] <_zardoz_> yes install cd. I'm not sure how to use alternate installer
[08:09] <Vich> well
[08:09] <Vich> I feel a great sense of accomplishment
[08:09] <Vich> ubuntu now looks uber sexy
[08:09] <Vich> and has awesome fading, wobbling effects
[08:10] <eck> _zardoz_: you download the alternate install iso, and then the cd will install using text mode instead of graphical mode
[08:10] <james_> Damn you vich
[08:10] <sysdoc> lol
[08:10] <Vich> reminds me of mac osx
[08:10] <james_> mine never wants to work
[08:10] <Vich> HAHA
[08:10] <Vich> win
[08:10] <Vich> LOL
[08:10] <compwiz18> no one knows how to connect to a hidden essid?
[08:10] <Vich> THIS IS AWESOME
[08:10] <Vich> I expanded a window
[08:10] <eck> compwiz18: enter the essid manually?
[08:10] <Vich> and it looked like it got thrown to the screen
[08:10] <Vich> all bouncy
[08:10] <compwiz18> eck; how so?
[08:10] <sysdoc> james_, when you start beryl-manager do you get any errors?
[08:11] <eck> compwiz18: you can do it using network manager or iwconfig from the command line
[08:11] <_zardoz_> so there is no way to fix this? is it a known issue?
[08:11] <james_> no screens sometimes
[08:11] <sysdoc> Vich, ctrl+alt+ left or right arrow
[08:12] <eck> _zardoz_: my roommate had the same problem, and he was able to install using the alternate cd
[08:12] <soundmaster80> does anyone have an idea when the 9629 nvidia drivers will be released to the repos
[08:12] <graeme> God, I'm seriously pissed at linux right now ... :-(
[08:13] <AsheD> I broke my /etc/sudoers
[08:13] <graeme> If i'd install windows instead, I'd be out enjoying the sunshine on my weekend off ... grrrrr....
[08:13] <mister_roboto> graeme: why not do it then?
[08:13] <preaction> graeme, but how much enjoyment could you get knowing that half your life will now be spent restarting windows to make it work right?
[08:14] <graeme> yeah, I guess I'm just venting ...
[08:14] <sysdoc> preaction, lol
[08:14] <AsheD> ok, I have a rather serious problem.
[08:14] <eck> preaction: i hope you appreciate the irony
[08:14] <soundmaster80> does anyone have an idea when the 9629 nvidia drivers will be released to the repos
[08:14] <graeme> it's gets frustrating when something as simple as sound won't work though ... :-(
[08:14] <cu83> hey all
[08:15] <preaction> eck, i feel the same as him... xubuntu edgy breaks some very small frustrating things from ubuntu dapper :(
[08:15] <nagesh> graeme, even the popup and other stuffs might have added to you enjoyment
[08:15] <AsheD> I was editing /etc/sudoers to allow my user to exec fusermount w/o password, and I evidently broke something in the file
[08:15] <AsheD> now I can neither edit the file nor use sudo AT ALL
[08:15] <graeme> yeah, yeah, I know ... in the long-term I'm better off ... blah blah :-P
[08:15] <preaction> AsheD, restart, use grub to open the recovery console, and remove the line you fux0red
[08:15] <eck> AsheD: did you use visudo?
[08:15] <soundmaster80> ashed, can you boot the desktop cd and fix it from CD?
[08:17] <cu83> can someone help me out, i've installed php4 on my box, but it doesn't see to be working
[08:17] <cu83> i'll open up http://localhost/test.php
[08:17] <preaction> cu83, when in doubt, blame PHP
[08:17] <cu83> hehe  =P
[08:17] <nagesh> cu83, do you have apache installed?
[08:17] <cu83> yep
[08:18] <preaction> cu83, what do you see when you open that up?
[08:18] <graeme> cu83: dude what's "doesn't seem to be working" supposed to mean ?
[08:18] <preaction> !doesn't work
[08:18] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[08:18] <zdravko> Hi there!
[08:18] <JOhNyBoY> hello
[08:18] <cu83> "open up with the default application(gedit)"
[08:19] <cu83> graeme, like it doesn't run it
[08:19] <graeme> cu83: have you set apache to handle .php files ?
[08:19] <cu83> how do i do that?
[08:19] <cu83> =]
[08:19] <chapium> bah
[08:19] <Orborde> Question about backups: So I'm trying to figure out how to make a decent backup of an entire multibooting system. rdiff-backup seems to be the logical choice for the currently running OS, but what about the other partitions?
[08:19] <graeme> cu83: you go to #apache ....
[08:19] <abes> Who knows how to change the functions of Fn+Something keys?
[08:19] <chapium> anyone know what day sunday is in crontabese
[08:19] <chapium> is it 0?
[08:19] <eck> cu83: when you run 'php' from the command line it doesn't work?
[08:19] <cu83> yep
[08:20] <cu83> eck, yep
[08:20] <eck> what happens?
[08:20] <Orborde> I was thinking that I could run rdiff-backup on the other, unmounted partitions themselves via their /dev/ block file entries.
[08:20] <graeme> eck: that's probably because he doesn't have php installed for cli ...
[08:20] <cu83> it just idles like it wants input, like running the perl command
[08:20] <eck> cu83: then it works
[08:21] <eck> it is just reading from standard in
[08:21] <graeme> cu83: go to #php or #apache. You have to configure apache to run .php files through the php interpreter ...
[08:21] <cu83> graeme, k thanks =]
[08:21] <graeme> Can anyone help me with a sound issue ?
[08:21] <james_> what the hell
[08:22] <eck> graeme: what is the problem?
[08:22] <nagesh> graeme, what is the problem?
[08:22] <james_> i'm trying to install a screensaver... ./configure, and them make......... but it says "make" doesnt exist
[08:22] <graeme> eck: I don't get any sound ... not from flash, not from videolan ... nothing
[08:22] <preaction> james_, apt-get install build-essential
[08:22] <nagesh> james_, apt-get install make
[08:22] <eck> graeme: is the soundcard recognized?
[08:23] <crimsun> yes, it is recognised.
[08:23] <crimsun> graeme: did you install aumix and use it as I suggested?
[08:23] <graeme> eck: think so yes, asoundconf gives me back CM... something or other ...
[08:23] <graeme> graeme@ubuntu:~$ asoundconf list
[08:23] <graeme> Names of available sound cards: CMI8738
[08:24] <james_> ty
[08:24] <nagesh> graeme, have you installed sound codecs and decodecs?
[08:24] <eetfunk> how do i get the gid and uid of a user from the command line?
[08:24] <crimsun> it's not a codec issue; it's a mixer issue.
[08:24] <mabreaux> I just purchased a Palm tx and would like to know how hard it will be to sync with ubuntu.
[08:24] <Rookie-> eetfunk, id
[08:24] <nagesh> eetfunk, id username
[08:25] <eetfunk> Rookie-: couldnt be easier thanks :)
[08:25] <graeme> nagesh: I figured that vlc would bring all the codecs with it no ?
[08:25] <eetfunk> nagesh:  thnx1
[08:25] <graeme> crimsun: how can you tell that ?
[08:25] <crimsun> graeme: because I handle alsa for ubuntu.
[08:25] <nagesh> graeme, not really .....u have to install gstreamers
[08:25] <graeme> crimsun: ahh .... teach me MASTER ... :-)
[08:26] <chapium> mabreaux: download gnome-pilot and find out :D (I doubt you'll find hlep for something that specific here)
[08:26] <crimsun> graeme: did you check w/ aplay that nothing is audible?
[08:26] <graeme> nagesh: I have streamtuner and xmms ... ( if that's any indication )
[08:26] <crimsun> graeme: e.g., aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[08:26] <unikuser> greame:  speaker-test
[08:28] <graeme> crimsun: yeah, tried it. The speakers should go into the green plug right :-P
[08:28] <graeme> ?
[08:29] <crimsun> graeme: remember I don't know the physical layout of your particular hardware, only the driver-level specifics
[08:29] <unikuser> yes it shuold go in green
[08:29] <crimsun> e.g., take a digital photo of the connectors
[08:29] <james_> my USB sound card is working pretty well, better than it does in XP
[08:30] <graeme> crimsun: yeah, the aplay sound isn't working either ...
[08:30] <crimsun> graeme: does it hang, or does it complete with no audible sound?
[08:30] <nagesh> graeme, sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd
[08:30] <graeme> crimsun: completes with no audible sound
[08:31] <unikuser> crimsun: is ur sound card mute?
[08:31] <crimsun> graeme: did you pastebin your codec dump? (contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec*/* )
[08:31] <crimsun> unikuser: misdirected
[08:31] <graeme> crimsun: no such file :-(
[08:31] <crimsun> graeme: what about /proc/asound/card0/codec* ?
[08:31] <inc-inc> i have a feeling that my xorg config is not displaying 24 bit colour (i get streaking/"petrol stains" in my images, expecially visible on gradients). Is there a way of checking what colour depth i have?
[08:32] <crimsun> inc-inc: xdpyinfo|grep depths
[08:32] <crimsun> inc-inc: the one listed before the first comma is your current depth
[08:33] <inc-inc> thanks
[08:33] <graeme> crimsun; this is the contents of the card0 dir ...
[08:33] <graeme> cmipci  id  midi0  oss_mixer  pcm0c  pcm0p  pcm1p  pcm2c  pcm2p
[08:33] <inc-inc> it says 24... but maybe ill try 32
[08:33] <james_> I am glad I finally got sound working, I can listen to my music library on one of my windows partitions
[08:33] <crimsun> graeme: is cmipci a directory or a file?
[08:33] <inc-inc> james_: sorry to join the pary late, but are u using an ntfs drive?
[08:34] <inc-inc> *party
[08:34] <james_> the music is on NTFS
[08:34] <graeme> crimsun: regular empty file
[08:34] <crimsun> graeme: pastebin its contents
[08:34] <jazzrocker> what  should i read to learn how to create a package?
[08:34] <jazzrocker> e.g. a .deb
[08:34] <inc-inc> james_: are u using ntfs-3g
[08:34] <graeme> crimsun: it's empty
[08:34] <crimsun> jazzrocker: System> Help> System Documentation> Packaging Guide
[08:34] <james_> i have no idea
[08:34] <inc-inc> have u got it working?
[08:34] <graeme> crimsun: oh wait sorry
[08:34] <crimsun> graeme: it's located on a pseudofilesystem, it will appear via ls to be empty, but it's not.
[08:35] <james_> I've been up for 17 hours, I need to go to bed
[08:35] <james_> I believe I'll be joining this channel more often
[08:35] <graeme> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/246490
[08:35] <james_> you guys are actually helpful
[08:36] <james_> thanks a lot, and have a good night
[08:36] <crimsun> graeme: thanks, now I need ``lspci -nv''
[08:37] <graeme> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/246491 ... thanks :-)
[08:38] <eternalswd> I just upgraded to edgy from dapper, and anything running gksudo is getting "unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file", what might I do to fix this?
[08:38] <unikuser> greame: what does running alsamixer do?
[08:39] <inc-inc> crimsun: in the output of xdpyinfo, there are a whole bunch of "visual:" sections. All say significant bits in color specification:  8 bits. Is that incorrect?
[08:39] <graeme> unikuser: opens the alsamixer in terminal ...
[08:39] <[SUDO] Tux> jordan_u?
[08:39] <[SUDO] Tux> Jordan_U?
[08:39] <unikuser> greame: with master, pcm and all?
[08:39] <crimsun> inc-inc: use what I told you
[08:40] <unikuser> and with ur sound card name?
[08:40] <inc-inc> crimsun: can u tell me what the out put of "xdpyinfo|grep significant" is
[08:40] <crimsun> inc-inc: it's not relevant, but it's 8 bits
[08:40] <inc-inc> thx
[08:40] <inc-inc> just wanted to make sure
[08:42] <crimsun> graeme: (sec, I'm crossreferencing the code)
[08:45] <crimsun> graeme: have you created an asoundrc?
[08:45] <graeme> crimsun: nope. I figured there'd be one in there already ?
[08:45] <crimsun> graeme: not by default.
[08:45] <graeme> just a runscript for sound right ?
[08:45] <graeme> or maybe I'm misunderstanding ...
[08:46] <paragonc> how do i find out what type of integrated video card a box is running?
[08:46] <crimsun> graeme: don't worry about it now.
[08:46] <crimsun> graeme: amixer set 'Four Channel Mode' off
[08:46] <crimsun> graeme: warning, turn down your speakers/headphones first
[08:47] <eck> paragonc: look for something relevant in lspci
[08:47] <paragonc> eck - 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[08:48] <paragonc> would that be it?
[08:48] <eck> that sounds like it
[08:48] <graeme> crimsun: it's still as dead as a doornail ... :-(
[08:48] <paragonc> diagnosing a xorg problem from 550 miles away :D
[08:48] <wheelswitch> i want to back up my home folder as i am about to do an ubuntu reinstall
[08:49] <crimsun> graeme: ok, amixer set 'Exchange DAC' off
[08:49] <wheelswitch> sudo cp /home/myusername/ /myusbdisk/ doesnt seem to be working, what is the easiest way?
[08:49] <graeme> crimsun: yip
[08:49] <ClayG> anyone know of a xdmcp/rdp live cd?
[08:49] <eternalswd> wheelswitch, are you trying to copy a directory?
[08:49] <eck> wheelswitch: cp -a
[08:49] <Sohan> Salut
[08:49] <Tokenbad> well this sucks...tried to mount a iso and says something about requires an operating system that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.
[08:49] <eck> or tar it up
[08:49] <crimsun> graeme: "yip"?
[08:50] <zdravko> i want to ask something...
[08:50] <zdravko> about Feisty
[08:50] <zdravko> and Dapper
[08:50] <zdravko> ad Edgy :)
[08:50] <zdravko> Dapper is LTS?
[08:51] <crimsun> zdravko: yes
[08:51] <wheelswitch> eck:  thankyou sir
[08:51] <zdravko> Edgy and Festy - no LTS?
[08:51] <crimsun> zdravko: correct
[08:51] <zdravko> then we should stay by Dapper?
[08:51] <crimsun> zdravko: depends on your needs
[08:51] <zdravko> for the next 2 years?
[08:51] <graeme> crimsun: sorry. Yes, I've turned the DAC Exchange off but still no sound
[08:51] <zdravko> i don't know my needs
[08:51] <zdravko> but I prefer mastered works
[08:52] <zdravko> now I use Edgy
[08:52] <zdravko> but I feel like Dapper was better
[08:52] <zdravko> maybe even Feisty won't satisfy me
[08:52] <zdravko> Dapper was a stable version
[08:52] <crimsun> graeme: and you're outputting to analog speakers, not a digital receiver, correct?
[08:52] <Staz> Does anybody know of a good page that contains the ubuntu boot arguments, and what they do. eg splash and quiet.
[08:53] <Tokenbad> can ubuntu handle a iso that uses iso-13346 udf file system? I want to mount the iso..
[08:53] <crimsun> zdravko: we spend considerable effort on Dapper on support it for 3 years on the desktop
[08:53] <graeme> crimsun: I have a headphone plugged in ... yes
[08:53] <zdravko> cool
[08:53] <crimsun> zdravko: to support, rather
[08:53] <zdravko> Dapper was released June 2006?
[08:53] <crimsun> zdravko: yes
[08:53] <zdravko> this means I can use it till June2009
[08:54] <crimsun> graeme: how many output jacks are there?
[08:54] <graeme> crimsun: output jacks ? blue pink green ...
[08:54] <ivx> hello when ever i right click my clock and select adjust date and time, the clock crashes, i rebooted and still crashed, anyone know what the deal?
[08:54] <crimsun> graeme: you have _3_?!
[08:55] <graeme> crimsun: OK it's working dude :-)
[08:55] <graeme> You're my GOD :-)
[08:55] <crimsun> heh.
[08:55] <graeme> the sound card won't work, but the onboard sound will work ...
[08:55] <eternalswd> I'm having a problem with gksudo.  sudo works.  when I try gksudo it gives my this error in the terminal: Error copying '/home/myusername/.Xauthority' to '/tmp/libgksu-sZhYXt': Permission denied
[08:55] <graeme> what was wrong do you think ?
[08:56] <crimsun> which onboard sound chipset is it?
[08:56] <eternalswd> the gksudo problem only started after upgrading from dapper to edgy
[08:56] <graeme> crimsun: 0000:00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) ... ??
[08:57] <unikuser> eternalswd: try removing those 2 files and restart x
[08:57] <crimsun> that _is_ your sound card, then
[08:57] <dreffy> hello, hello!Problems galore. I can can surf the net, ping addresses in www.hotmail.com but not ping <IP_ADDRESS>, i cant get any repository updates either. what's up???
[08:57] <ivx> hello when ever i right click my clock and select adjust date and time, the clock crashes, i rebooted and still crashed, anyone know what the deal?
[08:57] <zdravko> i can't imagine myself using Dapper until June 2009!
[08:57] <crimsun> graeme: how is sound working? did you switch jacks?
[08:58] <dreffy> actually my xchat wasnt working either im using a web irc client
[08:58] <graeme> crimsun: yeah, I switched between the soundcard and the onboard sound. But I'd done that before I made your changes and it didnt work back then ...
[08:58] <Shadowpillar_> one design flaw in ubuntu I hate is the mandatory need for certain apps
[08:58] <eck> zdravko: you can always use dapper, skip a few releases, and then upgrade to something you like before then
[08:58] <unikuser> dreffy: even i cannot ping ip u gave me
[08:58] <zdravko> aha, I see
[08:58] <Shadowpillar_> try to uninstall totem? it'll try to uninstall gnome
[08:58] <zdravko> thanks for the information
[08:58] <crimsun> graeme: err, you only have one pci sound chipset listed in lspci -nv
[08:58] <Shadowpillar_> or ubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <crimsun> graeme: what's the output from ``asoundconf list''
[08:59] <Flannel> Shadowpillar_: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it's safe to uninstall
[08:59] <eternalswd> unikuser, wouldn't removing my Xauthority file be problematic?  I guess I can just make a backup in case something goes wrong
[08:59] <Shadowpillar_> Flannel: sucks to upgrade without, though
[08:59] <graeme> crimsun: Names of available sound cards:
[08:59] <graeme> CMI8738
[08:59] <Shadowpillar_> tbh, I won't be putting edgy on my main box
[08:59] <Flannel> Shadowpillar_: thats why update-manager sticks it back in
[08:59] <Shadowpillar_> it isnt much of a new upgrade
[08:59] <ivx> or if someone could tell me what 4am in pst would equal in mountain time i would be good
[08:59] <crimsun> graeme: ok, what did you do to "get sound," then?
[09:00] <crimsun> ivx: one hour earlier
[09:00] <unikuser>  eternalswd: that file is generated everytime x starts
[09:00] <Shadowpillar_> and dapper will be supported for a long time
[09:00] <dreffy> unikuser, that address may be wrong but i still cant get any connections to the repository
[09:00] <Flannel> eternalswd: it shouldn't be too problematic.  And, next time use gksudo instead of sudo for graphical apps
[09:00] <crimsun> ivx: sorry, later
[09:00] <graeme> crimsun: just switched to the onboard sound ...
[09:00] <atrus> shouldn't meta-packages like that suggest/recommend the packages they're associated with? that way the software gets installed by default, but you can safely and easilly ignore the dependancies if you really want to?
[09:00] <Flannel> crimsun: 5am mountain time is 4am pst
[09:00] <crimsun> graeme: how did you do that? Did you physically switch jacks?
[09:00] <graeme> crimsun: pci also has a ...
[09:00] <unikuser> dreffy: what does ping archive.ubuntu.com do?
[09:00] <graeme> 0000:00:0d.1 Communication controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[09:00] <crimsun> Flannel: see above.
[09:00] <graeme> crimsun: yes
[09:00] <unikuser> dreffy: using any firewall?
[09:00] <Flannel> crimsun: one hour later. not earlier.
[09:00] <Shadow_mil> Hey check out this sweet new background!   http://<IP_ADDRESS>/sweet.png.gz
[09:00] <ryanpg> so I installed some stuff from source, now I can't install a package I want because it provides files from a home made deb, isn't there an apt-get redirect or something?
[09:00] <eternalswd> Flannel, yeah that's why I want to get it working
[09:00] <ivx> crimsun i like one hour earlier, but thanks i got it.
[09:01] <crimsun> Flannel: note my correction.
[09:01] <dreffy> response from archive.ubuntu.com - no firewall
[09:01] <crimsun> graeme: you only have one sound card.
[09:01] <dreffy> ethernet connection dhcp
[09:01] <crimsun> graeme: (that alsa recognizes)
[09:01] <Shadowpillar_> Flannel: openoffice is quite useless to me, because abiword is a better word processor than OO writer, and I never use OO, if I were to uninstall it, I'd break my system :(
[09:01] <graeme> crimsun: so the CM... is the onboard card then ?
[09:01] <ryanpg> "apt-get move" or something... it places the files installed somewhere else while installing the conflicting package?
[09:01] <crimsun> graeme: correct.
[09:02] <Flannel> Shadowpillar_: So, don't use ubuntu, use xubuntu, I believe it uses abiword by default
[09:02] <dreffy> unikuser, i got a response from ubuntu archive, i got no firewall
[09:02] <graeme> crimsun: i guss that explains it then. Although I did test it with the onboard also ...
[09:02] <Shadow_mil> People downloading it, tell me what you think of it
[09:02] <Shadow_mil> once your done
[09:02] <unikuser> try installing package and see
[09:02] <Shadowpillar_> Flannel: my point is, someone shouldnt have to use a whole different configuration to cut away the bloat
[09:02] <Flannel> atrus: the point of meta packages isn't to "get a full desktop", it's really to make requirements  lot easier, for instance, if I needed a program that compiled stuff, I could simply depend on "build-essential" and be assured that everything I needed would be there
[09:03] <crimsun> graeme: you don't have two distinct cards recognised by alsa, which is what I've been saying.
[09:03] <graeme> crimsun: OK cool thanks. Is there anyway to know from lspci whether the card is onboard or off ?
[09:03] <Tokenbad> can ubuntu handle a iso that uses iso-13346 udf file system? I want to mount the iso but it uses 13346
[09:03] <graeme> crimsun: maybe it's in dmesg ?
[09:04] <crimsun> graeme: it's _the_ sound card
[09:04] <unikuser> Tokenbad: pastebin exact message u got when u tried mounting.
[09:04] <jokoon> Hello ! my Gaim just seems to crash and close by himself when log in on my MSN account, (I'm running dapper drake and it is the default ubuntu gaim). I heard about Gajim, but is there any other way to fix that ? Would it be some character one of buddies put in his nickname ?
[09:05] <Shadowpillar_> Flannel: if ubuntu wants to be an alternative to non-free operating systems, it shouldnt try to control what the user can do
[09:05] <graeme> crimsun: thanks dude :-)
[09:05] <crimsun> graeme: np
[09:05] <Tokenbad> unikuser, it didn't give a msg when mounted...it put a readme.txt in the dir I mounted to saying that requires an operating system that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system
[09:05] <Shadowpillar_> nothing should rely on a certain package or delete it
[09:06] <Flannel> Shadowpillar_: It's hardly forcing you to keep the "ubuntu-desktop" meta package still around, or even to use it to begin with
[09:06] <unikuser> Tokenbad:what is the command u tried?
[09:06] <|rt|> jokoon: i believe that's due to a change in MSN protocal...the newer releases of GAIM correct the problem
[09:06] <Shadowpillar_> Flannel: I remember a while ago removing it was a very bad thing
[09:06] <Shadowpillar_> but that was with hoary
[09:06] <Shadowpillar_> er
[09:06] <Shadowpillar_> warty
[09:06] <Flannel> Shadowpillar_: Removing ubuntu-desktop has NEVER been a bad thing, except with upgrades.  Even in warty.
[09:07] <jokoon> |rt| : thank you. some I just have to apt-get update gaim ?
[09:07] <Flannel> Shadowpillar_: And, if you want something that doesn't have certain stuff require oher certain stuff, what you want is a distro without package management.
[09:07] <jokoon> -me
[09:07] <Tokenbad> unikuser, the normal mount command...sudo mount file.iso /media/cdemu/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[09:07] <|rt|> jokoon: I don't think the versions that correct the problem are in the dapper repositories
[09:07] <jokoon> Ok
[09:08] <unikuser> hmm strange
[09:08] <|rt|> jokoon: so you would either need to find a repository or deb file for the newest version or upgrade to edgy
[09:08] <dreffy> doing a sudo apt-get update i get [<IP_ADDRESS>]  101 network is unreachable
[09:08] <Tokenbad> unikuser, I did try iso13346 also...says unknown format
[09:08] <jokoon> |rt| : Can I upgrade to edgy while I'm with drake ?
[09:09] <|rt|> jokoon: check the urls in the topic for upgrading
[09:11] <paragonc> how do i enable  Universe and Multiverse repositories.
[09:11] <unikuser> Tokenbad: try -t udf
[09:12] <Flannel> !multiverse | paragonc
[09:12] <ubotu> paragonc: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:12] <atrus> Flannel: yeah, i don't buy that. if build-essential is a meta-package, you don't need it. you need the things it depends on. it's trivial to copy the dependancies of it out and depend on those if you really need to. besides that, you don't get any guarantee that the things you use in your package will be in build-essential later on.
[09:12] <paragonc> the guide for 6.06 doesnt seem applicable for 6.1
[09:12] <Mitz> Flannel: yeah, I don't buy that.
[09:12] <Tokenbad> unikuser, may I ask where you found that...I was looking on inet for info...
[09:12] <Tokenbad> and it worked
[09:12] <unikuser> man mount, is that working?
[09:13] <Mitz> Tokenbad: awesome
[09:13] <Flannel> atrus: yes, you are guarenteed, it's a social contract.
[09:13] <Mitz> atrus: yeah, you're guarenteed
[09:14] <atrus> wow
[09:14] <jokoon> What is the different between a penguin ?
[09:14] <atrus> ok, i stand corrected, but, eww. :)
[09:14] <atrus> jokoon: one of its legs are both the same.
[09:14] <jokoon> Yeaah right atrus !
[09:16] <Flannel> paragonc: they should be close enough.  Just software properties, and enable universe, then edit it to also include multiverse.  Or, the easy (as in, I knowwhat Im doing and don't wantto figure out which buttons I need to press to get there) is just edit your sources.list, which is identical in both thse versions.  And, for the record it's 6.10 (six dot ten) (year month) not 6.1
[09:17] <paragonc> Flannel - do i replace dapper with edgy ?
[09:17] <splintax> ok
[09:17] <splintax> i just did something very stupid
[09:17] <splintax> sudo rm -r /usr/local/lib
[09:17] <splintax> any idea how i can fix it?
[09:17] <splintax> folders that were in there: perl and python2.4
[09:17] <paragonc>  sources.list is what im looking at - but i guess i dont know which animal to put for 6.1 :D
[09:18] <roryy> heh
[09:18] <roryy> paragonc: be sure to read the upgrade notes as well, especially if you're going to use apt-get/aptitude and not update-manager
[09:20] <paragonc> im new to ubuntu
[09:20] <paragonc> well
[09:20] <paragonc> im helping someone new to linux get ubuntu running
[09:20] <Thunderpants> im about to buy a wireless card for my laptop, does anybody have experience of getting a belkin 7010/7011 or a netgear WG511T working under ubuntu?
[09:20] <paragonc> i've been dealing with slackware and gentoo for 3 or 4 years and BSD before that
[09:20] <paragonc> this is just foreign land to me :D
[09:21] <holycow> no worries
[09:21] <holycow> just ask
[09:21] <holycow> and welcome
[09:21] <oht> when trying to play a(ny) video in mplayer: "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[09:21] <oht> any ideas?
[09:22] <Flannel> paragonc: yeah, it'll all be edgy
[09:22] <holycow> oht, select properties and try a different video codec
[09:22] <Handsome_Devil> has anybody ever setup dial up before?
[09:22] <splintax> i just did something very stupid; "sudo rm -r /usr/local/lib". any idea how i can fix it?  folders that were in there: perl and python2.4
[09:22] <Flannel> paragonc: really, it's just uncommenting the lines in your current sources.list, and then adding "multiverse" after "universe"
[09:22] <paragonc> ya im reading that now
[09:22] <paragonc> :D
[09:22] <oht> ah, ok, i can right click on the video screen for a menu...hehe :P
[09:22] <crimsun> splintax: did you install any local perl or python2.4 source?
[09:23] <SurfnKid> whats a good mpg/avi/wmv recorder for linux?
[09:23] <paragonc> what about deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe multiverse
[09:23] <crimsun> splintax: (e.g., perl/python2.4 modules/apps)
[09:23] <Mitz> splintax: did you install any local perl or python source?
[09:23] <splintax> crimsun: no python, maybe some perl stuff
[09:23] <splintax> Mitz: see above
[09:23] <paragonc> and deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates universe multiverse
[09:23] <holycow> splintax, lol! damn that brings back memories
[09:23] <crimsun> splintax: did you compile it yourself? you don't remember?
[09:23] <Flannel> paragonc: what about them?
[09:23] <Thunderpants> im about to buy a wireless network card, am i better off with belkin of netgear?
[09:23] <oht> holycow: i'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers, which video driver should i use?
[09:23] <paragonc> uncomment all 4?
[09:23] <splintax> crimsun: i've been using ubuntu for about a week. no, i don't remember
[09:23] <crimsun> splintax: if you didn't compile anything yourself, then you have nothing to worry about
[09:24] <Flannel> paragonc: sure
[09:24] <holycow> splintax, you have just passed a milestone in your linux use ... hehe :) we all do that
[09:24] <splintax> holycow: yep, after a week :P
[09:24] <bthornton> Right now my monitor is running at 85 Hz refresh but I know it can do up to 120 Hz in this resolution, which means I need a modeline.  There's a program that auto-detects and generates modelines but I don't recall what it is--anybody know?
[09:24] <crimsun> splintax: (any perl/python2.4 packages installed via a package manager installs into /usr, not /usr/local)
[09:24] <Flannel> Thunderpants: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  there's a wireless network cards section
[09:24] <oht> bthornton: it's actually a website, googling "linux xorg.conf modeline generator" will probably get you to it
[09:24] <holycow> splintax, not codec i mean drivers under the video tab ... try one of the ones you see in that list
[09:24] <splintax> holycow: i think it's kind of stupid really. linux is meant to be more "secure" because you don't run as root.. but pretty much every install needs to be run through sudo.. so you inevitably make a mistake like this. and since i made it on the terminal, it's not in garbage
[09:25] <Mitz> holycow: I think it's kinda stupid
[09:25] <splintax> holycow: what? :S
[09:25] <youser> hey whats the newest most reliable version of amsn i could have right now?
[09:25] <holycow> splintax, actually its not stupid, your not compreheding the 5w's of the situation
[09:25] <splintax> crimsun: all i can remember is installing VMware which was done via a perl script. said script compiled stuff
[09:25] <splintax> holycow: enlighten me?
[09:25] <crimsun> splintax: then you have nothing to worry over
[09:25] <BHSPitLappy_> Rookie-, that issue got resolved by the way-  a real forehead slapper
[09:25] <splintax> crimsun: but it shouldn't have compiled any perl code then
[09:25] <holycow> splintax, the general rule of thumb is linux gives you A LOT OF POWER.  what that generally means is people shoot them selves in the foot A LOT
[09:25] <Mitz> crimsun: but it shouldn't have compiled any perl code
[09:26] <splintax> crimsun: so /usr/local is what?
[09:26] <Thunderpants> the Flannel
[09:26] <splintax> crimsun: where compiled code goes or what?
[09:26] <Thunderpants> thx Flannel i meant
[09:26] <crimsun> splintax: reserved for admin-specific (manual) installations.
[09:26] <crimsun> splintax: by default packages use the /usr prefix, not /usr/local
[09:26] <Mitz> ^
[09:27] <splintax> crimsun: i see. so installation of perl/python made those directories? it's kind of worrying that they were there, even though i now know that they were probably empty.
[09:27] <Rookie-> BHSPitLappy, how and what was wrong ?
[09:27] <Boglizk> Where did Firefox 2.0 install itself?
[09:27] <crimsun> splintax: they're created for convenience, yes.
[09:28] <splintax> crimsun: i was following a tutorial on installing the last.fm player. told me to put the files extracted from the .tar.gz in that folder. any particular reason for that?
[09:28] <Boglizk> i doubt it, i'm sure you can put them anywhere...
[09:28] <splintax> Boglizk: /usr/lib i think? either way you should be able to run "firefox" on the terminal.
[09:29] <Boglizk> splintax: Yeah, funny thing... firefox 1.5.2 pops up
[09:29] <crimsun> splintax: that seems silly. It's preferable to compile things as an unprivileged user and to only install to system-wide locations upon pain of death
[09:29] <dreffy> hey my resolv.conf has nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, im having problems connecting to repos, what should this be?
[09:29] <chris___1> does anyone know why my gtk theme isn't affecting application like epiphany
[09:29] <splintax> crimsun: so dodgy tutorial then. well thanks for your help
[09:30] <chris___1> the gtk icons are only matching my theme on the desktop
[09:30] <splintax> Boglizk: can you actually open ff 1.5.2? maybe it installed into the old dir or something?
[09:30] <chris___1> but not on applications
[09:30] <dreffy> someone plz post post abck whats in your /etc/resolv.conf
[09:30] <Boglizk> splintax: It works with ./firefox in usr/lib
[09:30] <roryy> dreffy: you need to find that out from your ISP; my understanding is that usually resolv.conf is automatically setup by bootp or during ppp initialization, or whatever
[09:30] <Boglizk> I seem to have another copy of firefox which "hijacks" the link...
[09:31] <roryy> dreffy: how are you connected to the internet?
[09:31] <youser> amsn anyone?
[09:31] <dreffy> roryy, is it your isp dns servers, or what?
[09:31] <_zardoz_> should I set bootable flag on my root partition?
[09:31] <lazzareth> Im looking for a new torrent client, the stock python bittorrent doesn't support queuing and Azureus is using 100% nonstop
[09:31] <lazzareth> 100% cpu that is
[09:31] <dreffy> rorry, its strange my internet works but not sudo get-update or irc
[09:31] <Boglizk> lazzareth: Use Torrent through Wine
[09:31] <roryy> dreffy: that's a good option, but it could be something else, e.g., your ADSL router
[09:32] <roryy> dreffy: so you can use firefox?
[09:32] <dreffy> i got a dlink broadband modem
[09:32] <dreffy> rorry, i use firefox, works ok, had to disable ipv6
[09:32] <lazzareth> Boglizk I tried that, uTorrent was giving me an error because it 'could not open the ports on the windows firewall' or something of the like
[09:33] <dreffy> rorry,im on this cchannel in a browser irc client
[09:33] <roryy> dreffy: it didn't work at all if you didn't disable ipv6 ?
[09:33] <Boglizk> You could disable that setting, it has never been any problems with it for me :]
[09:33] <lazzareth> And that it couldnt forward the nat ports ( which by the way i forwarded manually )
[09:33] <Bommel800> good morning :)
[09:33] <dreffy> rorry, no didnt work prior ro disabling ipv6
[09:33] <lazzareth> But i will try again, Seeing as im running out of options for clients with Transport Encryption
[09:33] <roryy> dreffy: what happens if you run 'dig www.google.com' on the command line?
[09:34] <adrenaline> Hey smb4k will only browse lan if I run as root anybody else run into this?
[09:34] <adrenaline> sudo smb4k
[09:34] <adrenaline> if I run as user app opens but no browsing
[09:34] <dreffy> rorry, i got a reply but i dont know what to look for in it
[09:35] <adrenaline> any idea
[09:35] <holycow> smb4k really doesn't work, that package needs to be dropped
[09:35] <holycow> why aren't you just using nautilus?
[09:35] <Bommel800> *** I have an big problem with 6.10! In impress I cant use the menu to change the angle radius for rectangle object. the field is gray/deactivated... I never seen this before. What can I do?
[09:35] <adrenaline> it works awesome if run as root holycow
[09:35] <dreffy> roryy, i got a reply, but what ami looking for?
[09:35] <roryy> dreffy: do you see (among other things) a line with something like 'a.l.google.com.         28627   IN      A       <IP_ADDRESS>'  ?
[09:35] <roryy> dreffy: the precise numbers and addresses aren't important
[09:36] <holycow> adrenaline, sorry to tell you dude, its a piece of crap.  really.
[09:36] <adrenaline> what else works then?
[09:36] <holycow> nautilus
[09:36] <holycow> what do you mean?
[09:36] <adrenaline> It is the only thing I found that browses
[09:36] <dreffy> i got a header section, then question section www.google.com IN  A
[09:36] <holycow> places / network servers
[09:36] <adrenaline> nautilus is not working
[09:36] <holycow> doesn't that work for you?
[09:36] <jokoon> Mh the update manager thing was installing things and I mistakely closed the terminal that started it and it looks like I closed the update manager by doing that ... any idea ?
[09:36] <dreffy> roryy, i got a header section, then question section www.google.com IN  A
[09:37] <adrenaline> places /network servers does not work
[09:37] <holycow> *ummm* so what happens when you select it?
[09:37] <roryy> dreffy: no ';; ANSWER SECTION:' ?
[09:37] <michaels_> how do I disable Caps Lock so I can rebind it? (Xubuntu Edgy)
[09:38] <dreffy> roryy, answer section has 49664 IN CNAME www.l.google.com
[09:38] <adrenaline> smb///monstertrucks is not a folder holycow
[09:38] <dreffy> roryy, 3 other different lines below too
[09:39] <holycow> adrenaline, are you getting a list of hosts on your network?
[09:39] <adrenaline> holycow seems that it uses smbmnt but smbmnt can only be run by sudo
[09:39] <roryy> dreffy: tell you what, can you paste the result to a pastebin?
[09:39] <Boglizk> uhm.. how do i mount a cd? (fluxbox)
[09:39] <adrenaline> holycow yes
[09:39] <roryy> dreffy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:39] <holycow> adrenaline, than it works
[09:39] <adrenaline> It won't open a share
[09:39] <Bommel800> *** I have an big problem with 6.10! In impress I cant use the menu to change the angle radius for rectangle object. the field is gray/deactivated... I never seen this before. What can I do? 8-)
[09:39] <holycow> adrenaline, so when you open the host ... can you see shares?
[09:39] <adrenaline> no
[09:39] <adrenaline> wont open the host
[09:40] <holycow> thats just weird
[09:40] <michaels_> how do I disable Caps Lock so I can rebind it? (Xubuntu Edgy)
[09:40] <adrenaline> I know but if I run smb4k as root it works
[09:40] <holycow> do you have any other windows boxes see the shares?
[09:40] <adrenaline> all of them exept ubuntu
[09:40] <holycow> *hmmm*
[09:41] <holycow> weird
[09:41] <dreffy> roryy, then what? soz  >> inoob<<
[09:41] <adrenaline> If I could run places >network servers as root it would work
[09:41] <roryy> dreffy: tell me what url you end up at
[09:41] <holycow> adrenaline, you can with sudo nautilus
[09:41] <adrenaline> ya but I don't want to how do I fix that?
[09:41] <holycow> adrenaline, however you shouldn't be running anything as root
[09:41] <holycow> ever
[09:41] <dreffy> roryy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31173/
[09:42] <holycow> adrenaline, sounds like there is something else wrong with you system, there is no reason to run nautilus via gksudo
[09:42] <roryy> dreffy: hrm, that looks ok
[09:42] <youser> can anyonehelp me get amsn workig
[09:42] <roryy> dreffy: that looks ok
[09:42] <chalcedny> greetings holycow :)
[09:42] <adrenaline> holycow, can you msg me?
[09:42] <holycow> hullo
[09:42] <holycow> adrenaline, no msg, channel
[09:43] <roryy> dreffy: how about 'wget http://www.google.com'
[09:43] <dreffy> rorry, strange
[09:43] <adrenaline> ok
[09:43] <roryy> dreffy: just tell me if it works, i don't need to see the output
[09:43] <adrenaline> holycow, can you play music across your network in nautilus?
[09:43] <Gonzo> welcome to samba
[09:43] <holycow> adrenaline, you can't
[09:44] <Gonzo> aww...
[09:44] <adrenaline> nope
[09:44] <holycow> smb isn't part of linux like it is in windows
[09:44] <adrenaline> unless I run smb4k as root
[09:44] <roryy> dreffy: the last line will be something say   'index.html' save [2933]
[09:44] <roryy> saved, even
[09:44] <holycow> apps haveto know about smb to be able to play music files over that protocol
[09:44] <holycow> and most don't really care
[09:44] <adrenaline> holycow, I can in debian
[09:45] <holycow> you ought to probably  run a streaming server
[09:45] <adrenaline> I also can in ubuntu if I run nautilus as root
[09:45] <eck> holycow: not if the smb share is mounted
[09:45] <dreffy> rorry, connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> :80 - - but dosent seem to be doing anything else, same as my apt-get update, it says connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> but never moves past that
[09:45] <adrenaline> I don't know how to run a streaming server
[09:45] <BadKitt1> Anyone use gdesklets??
[09:45] <dreffy> roryy, connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> :80 - - but dosent seem to be doing anything else, same as my apt-get update, it says connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> but never moves past that
[09:45] <chalcedny> is the dapper shutdown different from breezy? I tried to shutdown to reboot my box, the icons are different, i clicked shutdown but it's hungup somewhere.. what now?
[09:45] <roryy> dreffy: hmm
[09:46] <roryy> dreffy: you say your resolve.conf has 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' ?
[09:46] <holycow> eck, actually thats true lol i forgot , *sigh* its too late
[09:46] <eck> chalcedny: i think you can switch to a vt (vt1?) and see what is going on
[09:46] <adrenaline> ya but I can't mount unless I sudo
[09:47] <chalcedny> eck can you tell me how? my son is asleep.. he usually takes care of it
[09:47] <dreffy> roryy, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:47] <feles> hello all
[09:47] <roryy> dreffy: ok, what does 'tracepath -n <IP_ADDRESS>' do ?
[09:48] <tomaszpw> hi all
[09:48] <feles> I had a general question... does any player in linux like playing movies/music over the network?
[09:48] <feles> linux being ubuntu... >.>
[09:48] <tomaszpw> vlc player
[09:48] <feles> really?
[09:48] <adrenaline> fales I am working on that right now
[09:48] <dreffy> roryy, 1:  <IP_ADDRESS>          0.456ms pmtu 1500
[09:48] <holycow> feles, actually as eck pointed out ... you haveto mount the shared network drive locally
[09:48] <dreffy>  1:  <IP_ADDRESS>          3.064ms reached
[09:48] <dreffy>      Resume: pmtu 1500 hops 1 back 1
[09:48] <feles> hmmm
[09:48] <alecjw> feles: i reccomend vlc too. it can play loads of cool (?) codecs like windoze media and quicktime too
[09:48] <holycow> you can even do it over sshfs
[09:49] <feles> yeah, I know, I have VLC installed already
[09:49] <holycow> and yeah vlc is the best of all the players imho
[09:49] <feles> holycow, how do you mount the drive locally?
[09:49] <roryy> dreffy: OK. So you are connected via a 'normal' network cable (ethernet) to your broadband router/modem ?
[09:49] <alecjw> feles: Places>>Connect to server and then you can mount an ssh thing as a drive
[09:49] <dreffy> roryy, that is right
[09:50] <chalcedny> wow.. ok  i guess it just took a long time to shutdown. (i brought the laptop in here)
[09:50] <holycow> feles, depends on the protocol, generally you create a folder then mount /some/share /on/this/folder
[09:50] <feles> this would be a samba share
[09:50] <roryy> dreffy: that router probably has address <IP_ADDRESS>, and is acting as a proxy for internet address lookups
[09:51] <roryy> dreffy: either it is doing something wrong, or there's some setup error; anyway, take a look at the router configuration (if you know how). If not, you could try to find out your ISP's nameservers and put those in /etc/resolv.conf instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:52] <dreffy> roryy, by nameserver do you mean dns address, or are they 2 things
[09:52] <roryy> dreffy: a nameserver (or dns server) is a machine that tells you an IP (numerical) address given a 'human-readable' address
[09:53] <dreffy> i ahve the dns addresses from my isp they are <IP_ADDRESS>, but cant ping it - ill have to ring em again to confirm
[09:54] <dreffy> roryy, or <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:54] <compengi> hey b33r-
[09:54] <b33r-> Hi :o
[09:54] <roryy> dreffy: hrm. you could also try 'tracepath -n'
[09:55] <roryy> dreffy: or just put them into resolv.conf and see what happens
[09:55] <lastnode> crimsun, ping
[09:55] <crimsun> lastnode: pong
[09:55] <lastnode> crimsun, pm?
[09:55] <crimsun> if sensitive, sure
[09:56] <compengi> b33r-, kifak
[09:56] <lastnode> crimsun, you were in #upstream a while back, we released recently, just thought id let you know
[09:56] <bernd> good morning
[09:57] <roryy> dreffy: i can't ping my nameservers either, but my lookups work fine; maybe ping request are being ignored somehow
[09:57] <eetfunk> is there a way to tail -f multiple files at once in just 1 terminal window?
[09:57] <chalcedny> my upper bar is crawled almost all the way up into the black.. i just rebooted .. can anyone help?
[09:57] <crimsun> lastnode: (right, I noted before I parted)
[09:57] <chalcedny> it's NOT a screen adjustment.. i tried that.
[09:57] <dreffy> roryy, thanks a lot mate, ill ring em n hear what they think
[09:57] <compengi> when i do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable i get Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[09:57] <compengi> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[09:57] <compengi> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[09:57] <compengi> command:
[09:58] <roryy> eetfunk: just put two files on the command line?
[09:58] <chalcedny> good morning bernd
[09:58] <compengi> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[09:58] <compengi> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[09:58] <compengi> from nv to nvidia.
[09:58] <bernd> i had a question:
[09:58] <roryy> eetfunk: also, take a look at -F instead of -f
[09:58] <lastnode> crimsun, was there any particular reason you hung around? anything you'd like to see get in 0.2? any feature you'd like included?
[09:58] <eetfunk> roryy: thnx
[09:58] <bernd> i use in that moment suse 10.0 and i thinking about a change to kubuntu (ubuntu)
[09:58] <crimsun> lastnode: I haven't looked at it yet
[09:59] <lastnode> crimsun, cool, when you, we're in #upstream and #upstream-dev
[09:59] <lastnode> ;-)
[10:00] <dreffy> bernd, i was a suse user too, i like more things in ubuntu than suse
[10:00] <bernd> can i mount my /home partitionen during the installation and it is possible to write files to the desktop? i tried kubuntu once and at this i could not write to the desktop
[10:01] <holycow> during installation? or do you mean during startup?
[10:01] <variant> omg, sun to release java under the gpl
[10:01] <dreffy> bernd, you can mount a home partition at ibstall by selecting manual partition
[10:01] <compengi> bernd, do you have any clue to my issue?
[10:01] <bernd> ah, ok
[10:01] <bernd> clue?
[10:02] <holycow> dreffy? really?
[10:02] <bernd> my english is not the best one :-)
[10:02] <dreffy> bernd, at that point i mounted other partitions n hard drives
[10:02] <holycow> i've never seen an option to allow custom mount options
[10:02] <compengi> bernd, yeah i have a problem
[10:02] <holycow> dreffy, where?
[10:02] <variant> holycow: fstab
[10:02] <compengi> bernd, scroll up
[10:02] <variant> holycow: /etc/fstab
[10:02] <noodles12> Sup guys. i did the samba thing and i was able to see MSHOME in network servers adn i could see my other computers
[10:02] <InvisiblePinkUni> unable to access internet from my 2nd computer... please see this. http://pastebin.com/822374
[10:02] <compengi> variant, morning
[10:02] <noodles12> today when using nautilius i don't even see MSHOME anymore
[10:02] <variant> compengi: lo
[10:02] <holycow> variant, what does that haveto do with install except that its not available?
[10:02] <Werdnum> hmm
[10:02] <InvisiblePinkUni> some kind of networking problem
[10:02] <Werdnum> Nov 12 20:06:47 rumpus-kubuntu ovpn-main[11540] : ACK output sequence broken: [23]  19 20 21 22 --> the hell does this mean?
[10:03] <ubuGavin> hello, can anyone answer a question regarding gparted?
[10:03] <noodles12> so i thought the connection broke, but i coudl smb://<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:03] <bernd> and than?
[10:03] <compengi> variant, i have a problem with my vga driver
[10:03] <noodles12> to the ip address and i was connected to the comptuer fine
[10:03] <dreffy> holycow, when it asks to overwrite your hd or manually edit the partition table
[10:03] <variant> holycow: nm, wasnt realyy paying attention
[10:03] <holycow> dreffy, that doesn't give you any manual options to mount non local partitions
[10:03] <variant> compengi: which is?
[10:03] <noodles12> i'm not sure what's going on because apparently the connection is working. but i could smb://ip address
[10:03] <noodles12> but using nautilus to connect to network servers shows up blank
[10:03] <noodles12> when it used to be fine
[10:03] <BlueEagle> compengi: Have you attempted to alter your /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself? (as nvidia-glx-config-enable told you to)
[10:04] <variant> compengi: what problems?
[10:04] <noodles12> has anyone ever encountered thsi problem or has an idea of the possible problems?
[10:04] <bernd> @compengi: what can i see, when i am scrolling up?
[10:04] <BlueEagle> !anyone | noodles12
[10:04] <ubotu> noodles12: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:04] <BlueEagle> !enter | noodles12
[10:04] <ubotu> noodles12: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:04] <dreffy> holycow, sure?? i did it last night.mounted 2 data ntfs partitions & an ntfs partition
[10:04] <variant> BlueEagle: what are you talking about (with the bot)?
[10:05] <variant> BlueEagle: dont botspam
[10:05] <holycow> dreffy, neato, i need to pay more attention then ... i swear i've not noticed
[10:05] <noodles12> sry guys
[10:05] <noodles12> Has anyone encountered a problem where nautilus doesnt' find your windows server, but you can smb://ipaddress and still connect?
[10:05] <compengi> variant, i had like one month ago installed nvidia-glx-legacy and it was working fine but i found in how to install nvidia that my driver was wrong and i need to install nvidia-glx for fx 5500 so i did but when enabling the driver i get the error =/
[10:05] <BlueEagle> variant: I'm having it ask noodles12 to not use "anyone" as it is a redundant question and not use enter as punctuation.
[10:05] <noodles12> ( my apologies)
[10:06] <variant> compengi: sorry, i dont know anything about proprietry drivers
[10:06] <BlueEagle> noodles12: Are you in the same workgroup as the server you're attempting to connect to?
[10:06] <paragonc> what does the .dmrc file do?
[10:06] <compengi> bernd, do you know anything about that?
[10:06] <noodles12> BlueEagle: I should be. I used to be able to see it through nautilus and i havn't changed anything since.
[10:07] <EdgeT> Guys, How do I configure Grub to automaticaly pop the menu?
[10:07] <ubuGavin> It isn't clear in the GParted documentation that you can't modify the currently booted partition. Long story short, I figured out that you have to "unmount" it first, which is an option, but the command didn't work (because I'm using the partition) and I think it may have changed something, so now I'm afraid to reboot my comp. If the mountpoint were suddenly set to "/" instead of a specific location on the harddrive, would it
[10:07] <kestaz> How can i make HP Synaptics toucpad make good ? Any configuration is needed ? or what ?
[10:08] <EdgeT> How do I configure Grub to automaticaly pop the menu?
[10:08] <timephoenix> Can you guys still assist me with 5.10? I haven't got around to upgrading yet
[10:08] <EdgeT> Plz
[10:08] <BlueEagle> noodles12: If you're runnign a smb server on  your linux box you may want to reduce the os level or set it not to become local master. Not sure if that is the cause, but smb (smbtree in particular) does some weird caching or something that makes for confusion.
[10:08] <dreffy> holycow, http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-desktop-installation-with-screenshots.html go down to one that says "hare you need to create mount points"
[10:08] <BlueEagle> ubugavin: You might want to google for gparted live cd
[10:08] <EdgeT> timephoenix: Switch every repository to dapper and then type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal
[10:09] <holycow> variant, will you shut the hell up already?
[10:09] <InvisiblePinkUni> unable to access internet from my 2nd computer. some kind of network settings problem ... please see this. http://pastebin.com/822376
[10:09] <paragonc> whats a good ubuntu book to recomend to a n00b who was ubuntu up and running but wants to learn the ins and outs of it?
[10:09] <holycow> bah!
[10:09] <holycow> hahaha
[10:09] <holycow> variant, sorry about that!
[10:09] <BlueEagle> timephoenix: be sure to update after altering  your sources.list
[10:09] <ubuGavin> BlueEagle: Yes, if I still decide to partition after, I will probably use the Live CD, but for now I'm just worried that I won't be able to restart.
[10:09] <holycow> damnit my bad! appologies dude!
[10:09] <timephoenix> k cool
[10:09] <ubuGavin> The mountpoint was some system folder before I ran GParted, and now it's just "/".
[10:10] <holycow> dreffy, i never use the desktop installer its a piece of crap i was thinking d-i ... i need to check that out again closely
[10:10] <dreffy> bernd, check http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-desktop-installation-with-screenshots.html the one with "here you need to create mount points" mount your home partition there
[10:10] <noodles12> BlueEagle: thx i'll try it real quick
[10:10] <dreffy> holycow, it worked though :)
[10:10] <knix> I'm getting an X11 BadAlloc bug when I try to play large videos in mplayer (x264 720p and such), but I know it's not a VideoRam issue, because I'm giving the card 96mb, and 64 was sufficient in Dapper, any ideas?
[10:11] <InvisiblePinkUni> paragonc: ubuntu live cd for getting ubuntu up and running. http://www.tldp.org/ to learn the ins and outs of linux :)
[10:11] <holycow> yeah that one time :) hehe all cool, i was thinking about d-i anyway will look into it further
[10:11] <EdgeT> InvisiblePinkUni: Are the 2 pcs always running at the same time?
[10:11] <chaoslynx> hi i am trying to remove a package but the post removal script returns the error code 127... as far as i know there are no files installed anymore... i dont know why i cant delete it.. any ideas
[10:11] <chaoslynx> ?
[10:12] <InvisiblePinkUni> EdgeT: they are running. but i can switch them and off whenever i need them
[10:12] <timephoenix> I'm having issues with installing some TTF fonts. I've put them into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts, ~/.fonts... it appears in Nautilus with fonts:// and all applications but OOo 1.9 (which doesn't have spadmin). Any ideas?
[10:12] <EdgeT> InvisiblePinkUni: Hmmm
[10:12] <timephoenix> I can't download much on this machine as its only Dial uP
[10:12] <ubuGavin> What is the default mountpoint for hda1 in Ubuntu?
[10:13] <InvisiblePinkUni> EdgeT: do i need to get a router? will it work if i get a router?
[10:13] <EdgeT> InvisiblePinkUni: It should already work
[10:13] <EdgeT> ubuGavin: /dev/hda1?
[10:13] <noodles12> After editing smb.conf, do i need to relogin for it to take affect?
[10:14] <ubuGavin> Is that a mountpoint? I thought that was just the address of the device.
[10:14] <variant> holycow: what?
[10:14] <EdgeT> ubuGavin: oh you wanted the mount point?
[10:14] <ubuGavin> EdgeT: Yes. I think Gparted screwed it up. It's just set as "/" now.
[10:14] <EdgeT> ubuGavin: If it's the primary, then it's root (/)
[10:14] <holycow> variant, appologies dude, nothing, i misinterpreted as a result of a scroll in the wrong place
[10:14] <EdgeT> ubuGavin: Well, it should be "/"
[10:15] <Mantice> my Azureus dont minimize to system tray.
[10:15] <variant> ubuGavin: you can't set the mountpoint with gparted..
[10:15] <ubuGavin> EdgeT: OK. Any reason why it might be something different? It was completely different before I ran Gparted, which is why I'm worried that it suddenly changed.
[10:15] <EdgeT> ubuGavin: "/" = root = primary hdd/partition
[10:15] <EdgeT> ubuGavin: What was it like before?
[10:16] <EdgeT> I guess you could "roll-back"
[10:16] <EdgeT> ?
[10:16] <ubuGavin> EdgeT: Long, so I can't really remember.
[10:16] <variant> ubuGavin: / is the top of your filesystem tree, ubuntu is installed there
[10:16] <variant> ubuGavin: in a terminal type ls /
[10:16] <dreffy> roryy, putting in those dns addresses to /etc/resolv.conf worked btw, but apparently on reboot i'll have to re-enter them as resolv.conf is dynamically created
[10:17] <dreffy> roryy, thanks again
[10:17] <ubuGavin> variant: It's normal.
[10:17] <ubuntubaratretek> hi
[10:17] <variant> dreffy: change teh permissions on /etc/resolv.conf and stop it from being writable
[10:17] <chaoslynx> im trying to upgrade to efty but the upgrade broke because one package couldnt be removed... now i want to remove the package manually... i tried apt-get install -f but it didnt work either... can someone help me?
[10:17] <variant> ubuGavin: what do you mean it's normal?
[10:17] <timephoenix> Is anyone able to help with my font problem? I have a deadline to meet...
[10:17] <variant> chaoslynx: what package?
[10:17] <variant> timephoenix: what font problem?
[10:17] <chaoslynx> its spring-mod-aa
[10:17] <noodles12> BlueEagle: how do i reduce my os level? the only thing i found in the smb.conf file was to change domain master
[10:18] <chaoslynx> some game package
[10:18] <timephoenix> I'm having issues with installing some TTF fonts. I've put them into /usr/share/fonts/truetype/myfonts, ~/.fonts... it appears in Nautilus with fonts:// and all applications but OOo 1.9 (which doesn't have spadmin). Any ideas?
[10:18] <ubuGavin> variant: Lists all of the regular culprits... etc root serv tmp var, etc.
[10:18] <variant> ubuGavin: there there is no problem
[10:18] <variant> ubuGavin: unless you changed /etc/fstab
[10:18] <variant> ubuGavin: to resize your / partition you would have to reboot to the live cd
[10:19] <ubuGavin> variant: Yeah, I figured that at first, but it isn't explicitly stated in the Gparted documentation, so I figured it would be no harm trying.
[10:19] <TheManiacKY> Can someone please tell me what I need to do toget my i810_audio card working in my laptop? Its the only thing not working in Ubuntu. I've done a modprobe i810_audio and I'm just sent back to the prompt with still no sound
[10:19] <Mantice> I keep hearing this ding dong every 30 min any one know what it is.
[10:19] <chaoslynx> it was not from an official repository and i guess thats the problem because the original repository was removed due the upgrade.. maybe its because of that.. it seems to be that theres no file left but it cant be removed
[10:19] <AsheD> yeh, so gnome crashing with 'Uknown Error' is not usually a good thing
[10:20] <ubuGavin> variant: I'll just have to reboot and hope that Gparted was just being silly when it was telling me my hda wasn't booting from root! Thanks anyways man.
[10:21] <variant> TheManiacKY: if it just gives you no reply whenyou modprobe it then the modprobe was successful, you then need to unmute the soundcard with alsamixer (apt-get install alsamixergui)
[10:21] <chaoslynx> variant: is there a way to just delete the package from the list or so ... so that it is ignored...?
[10:21] <variant> chaoslynx: don't know sorry
[10:21] <variant> chaoslynx: please pastebin the full error message
[10:21] <chaoslynx> k
[10:22] <chaoslynx> its in german =)
[10:22] <chaoslynx> so i gonna translate it
[10:22] <yuky2314>  /server irc.hanirc.org
[10:22] <TheManiacKY> variant : Um Okay. I've installed the mixer and it opens. I have levels on everything
[10:23] <TheManiacKY> variant But I still can't establish a connection to the sound server .
[10:23] <Genrl_Zod> any1 use VM ware to flick between ubuntu and xp on master disk?
[10:23] <variant> TheManiacKY: are the channels unmuted? (doesnt matter if the volume is up if its muted)
[10:24] <variant> TheManiacKY: what sound server
[10:24] <variant> ?
[10:24] <chaoslynx> variant: here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31177/
[10:24] <AsheD> ok, how do I change that?
[10:24] <AsheD> shift-backspace suddenly restarts X
[10:24] <TheManiacKY> Yes its all unmuted
[10:24] <TheManiacKY> variant Yes its all unmuted
[10:24] <variant> chaoslynx: sorry, that is meaningless to me, is that part of a bigger message? what command were you running? please provide the FULL command and output
[10:25] <chaoslynx> ok
[10:25] <variant> TheManiacKY: what sound server?
[10:25] <TheManiacKY> variant THats what totem tells me when I Try to play an mp3can't connect to the sound server
[10:25] <variant> TheManiacKY: run this in the terminal: play /path/to/file.mp3
[10:25] <variant> TheManiacKY: but change the /path/to obviously
[10:26] <TheManiacKY> variant play isn't a valid command
[10:26] <variant> TheManiacKY: aplay sorry
[10:26] <iKs> Hi all !
[10:27] <TheManiacKY> variant Well. I got sound but it was all garbage and it sounded like it came out the PC Speaker and not the soundcard
[10:27] <variant> TheManiacKY: odd
[10:27] <ROBOd> hello guys
[10:27] <variant> TheManiacKY: try playing it with mplayer
[10:27] <variant> TheManiacKY: and take a look in totem prefs for the sound device
[10:27] <ROBOd> why don't we get gaim 2 beta 5 on the repositories? for edgy
[10:27] <ROBOd> it should be much more stable
[10:28] <saxin> beta more stable?
[10:28] <variant> saxin: beta of what?
[10:28] <_zardoz_> UBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!  Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak, Mez!
[10:30] <cTheManiaKY> variant Sorry was disconnected
[10:30] <variant> cTheManiaKY: np
[10:31] <cTheManiaKY> variant ANy other idas?
[10:31] <variant> cTheManiaKY: did you see what i mentioned about playing in mplayer?
[10:32] <ompaul> variant, ?
[10:32] <variant> ompaul: what?
[10:32] <cTheManiaKY> variant No I didn't
[10:32] <chaoslynx> variant: so that is the corrected version some is in german but the most important things i tried to translate http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31179/
[10:32] <variant> ompaul: oh, see _zardoz_
[10:32] <variant> thanks :)
[10:32] <ompaul> variant, that was why the
[10:32] <ompaul> ?
[10:32] <variant> yep
[10:33] <cTheManiaKY> variant mplayer works!
[10:33] <variant> cTheManiaKY: thought so
[10:33] <cTheManiaKY> variant So it works in the console now but I really need it in gNome of x11
[10:33] <cTheManiaKY> of=or
[10:33] <variant> cTheManiaKY: it's not a sound card problem, just an totem problem, the aplay issue can be unrelated
[10:34] <variant> cTheManiaKY: ps aux | grep esd
[10:34] <cTheManiaKY>  6634  0.0  0.1   2876   796 pts/1    R+   04:33   0:00 grep esd
[10:35] <variant> cTheManiaKY: ok, so its not running which is generaly a good thing. but it might be what totem is complaining about
[10:35] <variant> cTheManiaKY: gimmie two secks
[10:35] <cTheManiaKY> variant No problem. thanks again for the help
[10:35] <Burgundavia> any PPC or amd64 users here?
[10:37] <chaoslynx> variant: i found out something new it has a dependencie on a package that doesnt exist anymore... i dont know where to get it either i just want to remove it and forget about it...
[10:40] <chaoslynx> how can i delete a package from the package list so that it is ignored?
[10:41] <variant> cTheManiaKY: sorry, i am at work. back in 10 minnits
[10:41] <cTheManiaKY> variant Understood
[10:41] <variant> cTheManiaKY: check system > preferences > sound > untick/tick enable software sound mixing in the sound tab
[10:42] <variant> brb
[10:42] <variant> cTheManiaKY: and check the default sound card at bottom of same window
[10:42] <cTheManiaKY> variant There isn't a card listed