[02:46] <jrib> blanky: just have him create a new user:  system > administration > users and groups
[02:46] <naught101> heh. BigLebowski: what should be added there?
[02:46] <eegore> naught101: I was thinking of using it on a hardcore gaming box
[02:46] <blanky> jrib: how can he do this through the terminal
[02:46] <Pollywog> linuxnewbie756: go to their website they might have setup info so you can connect.
[02:46] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: i'm really sorry i have to go, my pizza is ready and my girl waiting for me for dinner
[02:46] <jrib> blanky: adduser
[02:47] <gepatino> Coffeegrindah: good luck
[02:47] <gar> is there a linux program similar to activesync?
[02:47] <blanky> jrib: you got an example? thanks though
[02:47] <Coffeegrindah> Gepatino thanks
[02:47] <jrib> blanky: sudo adduser blanky
[02:47] <Pollywog> otherwise you will have to get Linspire  ;)
[02:47] <AWOSDev> What is the file .xsession-errors for?
[02:47] <gepatino> see you
[02:47] <blanky> jrib: then it asks for password, thanks
[02:47] <AWOSDev> It is 2 gigabytes in size, in my home directory.
[02:47] <blanky> jrib: and it should let me ssh into his computer with that information?
[02:47] <Pollywog> gotta go fix my wifi
[02:47] <jrib> blanky: yes, you may want him to add you to the "admin" group so you can sudo
[02:47] <Taxman> my bios doesn't seem to see my USB cd-rom, is there a good boot floppy that might be able to help?
[02:48] <blanky> jrib: oh, right, how can he do that? through the terminal
[02:48] <AWOSDev> Is it necessary?
[02:48] <idn> hi i am running a server on one of my computers with ubuntu installed and I was wondering if there is a way to list the packages pending to be updated without running apt-get upgrade because sometimes I just want to see what is pending and not update
[02:48] <jrib> blanky: sudo adduser blanky admin
[02:48] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: what do you mean, could you check the website with me?
[02:48] <blanky> jrib: thanks for the help I apprecaite it
[02:48] <BigLebowski> naught: i'm not too sure, it's been a while, i'm pretty sure you'll need to AddType and set index.php as an index though
[02:48] <jrib> blanky: np
[02:48] <dekela> Hi People
[02:48] <gar> hi
[02:48] <Coffeegrindah> From the sounds of things (and I'm quasi-newb 7 years in the making) I'm going to have to mount my squashfs from within a live Environment, chroot into it and remove a user.. anyone care to help?
[02:49] <AaronCampbell> Ok, I'm looking to get a video card that will work well with ubuntu, with 2 monitors, and decent resolution (1680x1050).  I was told to go for an nVidia chipset.  Does the manufacturer matter?  Or the version of OpenGL support?  Or anything else?
[02:49] <AWOSDev> Hrm.
[02:49] <dekela> Anyone knows how can I enable my mounted partitions to be seen on the desktop? Gnome 2.18 feisty
[02:49] <AWOSDev> The ~/.xsession-errors file is continually growing, and now over 2GB in size.
[02:49] <Schalken> !kernel options
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel options - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <naught101> is the apache 1.3 httpd.conf significantly different to the one for apache2?
[02:49] <thugren> Aaroncampbell. I am working on tha same problem..
[02:49] <naught101> could I just copy it over, since it seems to be there
[02:50] <idn> arranCampell: yeah go for nvidia definately, the manufacturer doesnt really matter. I would go for a 7 series card if i were you, something like the 7300 would be ok, i think you can get that passive (wuthout a fan) as well
[02:50] <linuxnewbie756> Pollywog: well, im turning in for tonight, i will try some more tommorow. thanks for the help
[02:50] <AaronCampbell> thugren: trying to get yours working?  Or looking for a new card?
[02:50] <thugren> Aaroncampbell. I am just trying to get the latest version working on my pc..
[02:50] <theherbalizer> okay, so i used "pmount sdb1" to mount my muvo 100 and copied my files over, but "umount sdb1" gives me "umount: sdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab)" what's going on here?
[02:50] <idn> also make sure you get a card with two dvi outputs and not one div, one vga
[02:51] <AaronCampbell> idn: what about OpenGL 2.0 vs OpenGL 1.5?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> idn: why's that, you can jus use dvi to vga adaptes if you want.
[02:51] <thugren> Aaroncampbell, No getting the Nvidia Drivers going.. I know with SuSe There is another Program Call Compiz or somthhing to that effect to get the Dual monitor going
[02:51] <dekela> Do you know why gaim in the SW repositories is suppose to come with sametime support but its not?
[02:51] <AaronCampbell> Because DVI->VGA loses nothing, but the other way is not so nice
[02:52] <idn> yeah but you loose quality from going dvi->vga->dvi, its better to get two dvi then its digital all the way to the monitor, no loss of quality.
[02:52] <jrib> tonyyarusso: no, but... can it still handle teg?!
[02:52] <AWOSDev> Nevermind, the problem was that Kate was continually checking a file and logging it to .xsession-errors.
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> i see
[02:52] <thugren> Aaroncampbell, Depends on whatyou are need it for? :)
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> jrib: with lots of stutter, sure
[02:52] <dekela> found it.. Need to add meanwhile support from synaptic
[02:52] <john__> Question
[02:53] <idn> i am not sure on the opengl version tho, i have a 7 series and it was awesome for linux, no problems at all
[02:53] <AaronCampbell> idn: what exact card do you have?  I'll check the openGL version on it
[02:53] <john__> I wanna edit "Interfaces" in the text editor, but it won't let me "Save"; it's greyed out.  Thoughts?
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> john__: use sudo
[02:53] <john__> Im new to ubuntu :(
[02:54] <john__> Maybe I should just stick to windows...
[02:54] <ardchoille> john__: use gksudo with gui apps
[02:54] <john__> oh..
[02:54] <idn> i did have a 7800gtx 512, not anymore tho sold it to get a macbook with a crappy ati card lol
[02:54] <ardchoille> !gksudo | IndyGunFreak
[02:54] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[02:54] <eegore> john__: try kubuntu
[02:54] <xtknight> john__: just wait a couple weeks, you'll think windows sucks :)
[02:54] <Jaguar> john__: You're going to want to learn about privilleges in linux, it'll save you a lot of headache.
[02:54] <theherbalizer> okay, so i used "pmount sdb1" to mount my muvo 100 and copied my files over, but "umount sdb1" gives me "umount: sdb1 is not mounted (according to mtab)" what's going on here?
[02:55] <idn> if you want to run compiz i would check out the compiz/beryl forums, you may need a better card to run it over two screens, although personall i dont see it being a problem at all
[02:55] <scubasteve> would anyone happen to know any reasons for a slow booting ubuntu (fresh install)
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> ardchoille: so why is gksudo so much better?
[02:55] <eegore> john__: I remembder the days of dos
[02:55] <john__> lol
[02:55] <Schalken> where can i set/view "kernel options"?
[02:55] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[02:55] <john__> DOS was whack :D
[02:55] <xtknight> Schalken: grub menu.lst
[02:55] <eegore> everything was command line and batch start files
[02:55] <Schalken> i want to check if "extended attributes" is set
[02:55] <xtknight> Schalken: hm no idea what you mean by that?  context?
[02:56] <Linuturk> what is the most likely cause of gnome settings deamon throwing an error at the load up of a system.
[02:56] <Linuturk> ??
[02:56] <kalin> hmm, well, turns out that grub just wanted to boot from hd0, not hd3, even though its /dev/sdb1... confusing
[02:56] <xtknight> Linuturk: corrupted ~/.gnome or ~/.gnome2 folders?  (just  a guess)
[02:56] <Schalken> xtknight: im following the beagle howto: Enabling Extended Attributes - Beagle
[02:56] <theherbalizer> anyone?
[02:56] <Schalken> xtknight: lol did that go across linked?
[02:56] <napsy> hello. does anyone know the name of a program in the repository that simulates the pc ... simething like visualpc?
[02:56] <xtknight> Schalken: nah irc doesn't use html.  i've got it though, don tworry
[02:57] <X86echo> john__: try it for a few weeks read read read stay up all night until your get headaches
[02:57] <X86echo> :-)
[02:57] <Schalken> napsy: you mean vmware or wine?
[02:57] <AaronMT> !vista
[02:57] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[02:57] <john__> So, using the terminal, what do I type so I can edit the file in: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:57] <idn> so does anyone know how to list the packages pending upgrade without a gui and without typing apt-get upgrade?
[02:57] <theherbalizer> lol @ ubotu
[02:57] <xtknight> Schalken: they are actually talking about the kernel configuration itself
[02:57] <Nab> vista is the best operating system ever made!
[02:57] <DWRZ> Hello everyone. So... I created a partition in Windows XP (should've used GParted but I didn't know at the time), it uses W95 FAT 32. How do I mount it from Ubuntu? I've read FAQS that do NTFS of the actual windows, but this is just a separate partition that is FAT32...so... how do I mount and have it mount automatically in the future?
[02:57] <Schalken> xtknight: do you know where i can see that?
[02:57] <napsy> Schalken: not a virtualization program ... a program that shows how the pc works
[02:57] <ardchoille> john__: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:57] <xtknight> Schalken: kernel options are generally what is passed to the kernel at bootup.  the kernel config describes how the kernel was actually built
[02:57] <Nab> ....from microsoft :P
[02:58] <DWRZ> (sorry for double posting, had to leave computer)
[02:58] <xtknight> Schalken: Edgy?
[02:58] <taliban> +3
[02:58] <Schalken> xtknight: yup
[02:58] <xtknight> Schalken: cat /boot/config-2.6.17-11-generic | grep OPTION_REFERRED_TO
[02:58] <mEck0> hmm, what does "computer savvy" means?
[02:58] <xtknight> mEck0: smart with computers
[02:58] <john__> Thanks ardchoille
[02:58] <theherbalizer> anyone know anything about pmount/umout?
[02:58] <mEck0> xtknight, aha, ok thx
[02:59] <ardchoille> john__: You're welcome :)
[02:59] <binskipy2u> anyone else checking out ubuntu ultimate 1.2
[02:59] <john__> Gotta reboot and see if this works. Be back in a little! :)
[02:59] <Schalken> xtknight: "/boot/config-2.6.17-11-generic: No such file or directory" :(
[02:59] <binskipy2u> its really nice
[02:59] <theherbalizer> binskipy2u: link?
[02:59] <xtknight> Schalken: cat /boot/config-`uname -r` | grep OPTION_REFERRED_TO
[02:59] <theherbalizer> !pmount
[02:59] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[02:59] <binskipy2u> http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/index.html
[03:00] <theherbalizer> !umount
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <binskipy2u> grab 1.2
[03:00] <Schalken> xtknight: i yeah i see it in /boot..lets see...
[03:00] <theherbalizer> ty
[03:00] <binskipy2u> yw
[03:00] <xtknight> Schalken: damn this is a record for me.  ok we will just do it the old fashioned way :).  type "cat /boot/config-" then immediately press tab
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | xtknight
[03:00] <ubotu> xtknight: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:00] <xtknight> ehh my bad
[03:01] <Jaguar> Never new that was classified as a 'bad' word.
[03:01] <Jaguar> know'
[03:01] <Jaguar> knew'... :/
[03:01] <Schalken> xtknight: yay it found "CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR=y"
[03:01] <binskipy2u> pc police action
[03:01] <theherbalizer> oi, dualcore kernel built in? nice
[03:01] <blanky> jrib: are you there
[03:01] <theherbalizer> !ohmy | ubotu
[03:01] <ubotu> ubotu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:01] <blanky> jrib: I ssh'ed into his computer under the username I created but he can't screen -x cause we're different users, how can he screen into my screen?
[03:01] <xtknight> Schalken: that (=y) means it was built in to the kernel.  if it said =m, that would mean it was a separate module, which you could load using modprobe.  if it said n, that would mean it was not compiled
[03:01] <theherbalizer> lol
[03:02] <binskipy2u> ubuntu has one hello-of-a community
[03:02] <Schalken> xtknight: okay, now it says to add "user_xattr" to the line in fstab. should i do that for both my root and home partitions?
[03:02] <xtknight> Schalken: the =y ones are always with you.  you don't need any .ko files, they are "statically linked" into the kernel image, meaning they are all packed into the huge (relatively) kernel file
[03:02] <jrib> blanky: oh, you have to do something like setuid root screen... I think man screen talks about it.  google for it if it doesn't.  I don't remember the exact steps off the top of my head.  Let me know if you can't find anything and I"ll search too
[03:02] <xtknight> Schalken: if you want to be able to search root and home.
[03:03] <xtknight> Schalken: i recommend it
[03:03] <blanky> jrib: yeah I'm manning screen but I'm not really smart about all this :(
[03:03] <Schalken> xtknight: lol well beagle isnt going to index root, but might as well.
[03:03] <xtknight> Schalken: no?
[03:03] <Schalken> xtknight: no?
[03:03] <xtknight> Schalken: beagle doesn't index root you're saying?  or is it that you just have it set up that way?
[03:03] <john__> Eh, guys, I really help....
[03:03] <Schalken> i mean, what?
[03:03] <jrib> blanky: join me #ubuntu-classroom
[03:03] <john__> I just can't figure this out, being new and all.
[03:03] <Schalken> xtknight: no it only indexes your home directory.
[03:04] <leku> how do you add ram to a dell latitude d620?
[03:04] <slvmchn_> can anyone recommend an IRC client besides x-chat or xchat-gnome
[03:04] <xtknight> Schalken: ah alright, didn't know
[03:04] <john__> Been trying for hours
[03:04] <binskipy2u> figure what out john_?
[03:04] <binskipy2u> i didnt see you ask anyway
[03:04] <binskipy2u> anything
[03:04] <Schalken> xtknight: but you can have it index the whole FS if you want...
[03:04] <theherbalizer> leku: go to crucial.com if you don't know what kind you need, open it, add ram.
[03:04] <theherbalizer> leku: oh, forgot the 'buy the ram' step
[03:04] <leku> slvmchn: irc2.9_roof
[03:04] <leku> I have it
[03:04] <binskipy2u> when i hit the 15mil flalotto tonight
[03:04] <theherbalizer> you need that too
[03:04] <binskipy2u> ill hvae me a nice quad core intel
[03:04] <leku> i'm hoping i just unscrew this thing on the back
[03:04] <binskipy2u> ;)
[03:04] <leku> but i fear it might be under the keyboard
[03:05] <john__> My Wireless Card won't automatically detect any networks, but if I put in the ESSID as "hello" (my network's name) it works
[03:05] <theherbalizer> leku: well, unscrew the thing on the back
[03:05] <theherbalizer> leku: it wont hurt anything
[03:05] <leku> i know
[03:05] <john__> Someone told me to install NetworkManager, and I did, but that only has the option for "Wired Connection"
[03:05] <thugren> I am Draw a blank how do you enable the root account again?
[03:05] <binskipy2u> i dont have a wireless network
[03:05] <john__> Ah :(
[03:05] <xtknight> !root | thugren
[03:05] <ubotu> thugren: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:05] <binskipy2u> you are in ubuntu right john?did you check their forums
[03:05] <SilentDis> hello :)
[03:05] <Schalken> xtknight: okay done. anyway to know if it worked?
[03:06] <binskipy2u> they have every issue under the sun darn near addressed
[03:06] <john__> Yeah, I made a thread
[03:06] <sanityx> How do I control what services run at boot with upstart?
[03:06] <xtknight> Schalken: you'll have to remount your file systems for the change to take effect
[03:06] <leku> yeah i am sure it is on the back
[03:06] <leku> brb
[03:06] <Schalken> xtknight: did so
[03:06] <xtknight> Schalken: meaning somehow forcefully unmount your home partition, but i'd just reboot
[03:06] <Schalken> xtknight: k will do
[03:06] <Schalken> sanityx: sys> admin> services
[03:06] <xtknight> Schalken: what do you mean when you said 'did so'?
[03:06] <sanityx> Schalken, non gui
[03:06] <Sayers> is there a java channel?
[03:07] <xtknight> !info sysv-rc-conf | sanityx
[03:07] <ubotu> sanityx: sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[03:07] <sanityx> sysv config tool works for upstart?
[03:07] <Schalken> okay brb
[03:07] <xtknight> sanityx: oh, didnt catch that part.  i'm not sure
[03:07] <john__> Not to be offensive or anything, but how are we going to get people to switch from Windows to Linux when it really isn't that newbie friendly?
[03:07] <sanityx> xtknight, I'm running 6.10 so I need upstart controls.
[03:07] <cdmwebs> is there a way to recursively find identical directories??
[03:08] <Sayers> john_ : it's friendly whats the problem
[03:08] <sanityx> Anybody know?
[03:08] <SilentDis> john__: i wouldn't call *nix harder than windows, just different.  there is a difference :)
[03:08] <Jaguar> john__: That's why Ubuntu is constantly being improved, it is working towards that completely user friendly state.
[03:08] <xtknight> john__: it gets more newbie friendly every release.  Feisty will be more so, as edgy does have some usability flaws imo.  after you have someone set up video drivers (unaccelerated ones are unacceptable), it's very friendly though
[03:08] <hateyla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10832/      this problem is in the system startup when checking all filesystem .. c0z of this my linux starting bit slow
[03:08] <john__> I suppose.
[03:08] <sanityx> SilentDis, I would call it harder than windows. I love it anyway, but it's harder.
[03:09] <john__> I asked like 50 people about my problem, and it's just too hard for everyone.
[03:09] <Sayers> john_: Everytime some programmer helps the community by adding somthing , may it be a game all the way to a Mp3 converter, and inbetween, people are making it easier and better.
[03:09] <xtknight> john__: what problem?
[03:09] <Coffeegrindah> for usability problems I've got an old copy of caldera 2.1 somewhere or Mandrake 6..  I'd say we've come a long way
[03:09] <bayziders> Does edgy use the newest linux kernel?
[03:09] <john__> My Wireless Card not detecting any networks in the drop down box.
[03:09] <xtknight> some day everybody will need to edit a config file..that's pretty much inevitable with any Linux distro unless all you do is browse the web
[03:09] <sanityx> Nobody knows upstart here?
[03:09] <jrib> !upstart | sanityx
[03:09] <ubotu> sanityx: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[03:09] <xtknight> john__: it would probably be harder to debug that problem on windows, actually.
[03:10] <sanityx> jrib, ... I know what it does
[03:10] <SilentDis> sanityx: while I admit i'm a 'latecommer' to linux on the desktop (didn't start using it as such till about july 06), i had been using various *nix distros on server equipment for years before.  I guess that's colored my perceptions :)
[03:10] <jrib> sanityx: "Nobody knows upstart here?"
[03:10] <john__> I could probably figure it out in Windows, but I'm going to school for that stuff
[03:10] <john__> because*
[03:10] <xtknight> john__: there are plenty of people here who know about wireless quite a bit.  unfortunately my knowledge of it is rather limited.
[03:10] <Jaguar> john__: What kind of card? `lspci | grep 'Network'`
[03:10] <john__> it's an Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG
[03:11] <xtknight> john__: report results of " sudo lshw -class network | grep driver"
[03:11] <tjl30> does anyone know how I can extract a RAR archive file?
[03:11] <xtknight> !unrar | tjl30
[03:11] <ubotu> tjl30: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:11] <sanityx> thats interesting, it seems not all daemons are running using upstart. otherwise the stop/start commands would be able to control them.
[03:11] <hateyla> no one familier with my problem?
[03:12] <kingcobra> please tell me how to open or install gnome partition editor
[03:12] <jrib> sanityx: upstart in edgy just runs the sysv init scripts
[03:12] <tjl30> which unrar
[03:12] <xtknight> !gparted | kingcobra
[03:12] <ubotu> kingcobra: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:12] <sanityx> jrib, ok.
[03:12] <tjl30> the one by RAR labs ?
[03:12] <sanityx> jrib, so what use is that?
[03:12] <jrib> sanityx: preparation
[03:12] <sanityx> jrib, good point
[03:12] <sanityx> What about 7.04?
[03:12] <boontux> Hey guys. I'm having problems getting the nonfree flash package to work. It works under firefox but I can't get it to work under Mozilla. I'm using Edgy. Any suggestions?
[03:13] <mattyv> bayziders: Edgy uses a a 2.6.17 kernel, not the newest
[03:13] <jrib> sanityx: and you can write stuff for it I guess.  I think 7.04 is starting to move them over, but I am not sure.  There is a policy set in place for a timeframe that I don't recall
[03:13] <kingcobra> xtknight: thanx very much
[03:13] <xtknight> the latest kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:13] <xtknight> the next version of ubuntu will use some version of 2.6.20...
[03:13] <Netham45> does feisty have any WIFI support currently?
[03:13] <jrib> !feisty
[03:13] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:14] <xtknight> Netham45: i'd sure hope so
[03:14] <Netham45> need to reconnect, brb
[03:14] <blanky> hey guys I got apache, what packages should I get for mysql and php ?
[03:14] <xtknight> !lamp | blanky maybe this
[03:14] <ubotu> blanky maybe this: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:15] <john__> Testing
[03:15] <blanky> meh
[03:15] <sanityx> !runlevel
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <sanityx> !runlevels
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <sanityx> !init
[03:15] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:15] <AndrewB> sanityx: can you pm the bot please.
[03:15] <sanityx> sorry
[03:15] <kingcobra> xtknight: brilliant thanx again
[03:15] <john__> I think I got it finally.
[03:15] <xtknight> kingcobra: no problem
[03:16] <john__> Well, got the NetworkManager to work
[03:16] <john__> Not sure if it detected my network because I had it in there before or cause i scanned it...
[03:16] <xtknight> blanky: "sudo apt-get install php5 php5-mysql mysql-server-4.1" or something like it
[03:16] <blanky> xtknight: thanks
[03:16] <ThaNerd> i have a bug in crontab (or i am stupid...)
[03:17] <zoot666> when will there be better support for WLAN.... like the linksys USB wusb54
[03:17] <xtknight> zoot666: that card requires ndiswrapper, right?
[03:17] <zoot666> didn't work
[03:17] <AndrewB> zoot666: when people like linksys openly distribute the specs.
[03:18] <zoot666> has not worked for 5 years! and i have not been able to use linux.
[03:18] <Fujitsu> zoot666: You can thank Linksys for that.
[03:18] <xtknight> zoot666: why not get another pci card supported by linux and use the usb on another windows system
[03:18] <AndrewB> zoot666: look online.. you may find a petition.
[03:18] <kieran> hi, im new to ubuntu and i would like to get my wireless pc card working, can any one help?
[03:18] <mattyv> zoot666: when the chipset manufacturer makes a driver or releases specs...ie. never
[03:18] <GMWeezel> How do I mount a "dd" image?
[03:18] <salty> get a new card and enjoy linux...i did
[03:18] <xtknight> kieran: yes, we need to know the model of it
[03:18] <zoot666> what card?
[03:19] <salty> i got the netgear wg511t
[03:19] <john__> Anyone have "Wifi Radar"?
[03:19] <zoot666> works out of the box?
[03:19] <sanityx> Ok so upstart just runs the init script. but there's no longer an inittab file. so for example how do I make my system boot into runlevel 1 by default.
[03:20] <kieran> the bcm4306 and i have the driver and have used ndicwrapper Gui version to install it but it seems like im not getting any power to the card
[03:20] <salty> i have a linksys wpc11 ver4 but never use it
[03:20] <salty> yes zoot666
[03:20] <zoot666> thats for a labtop?
[03:20] <salty> yes
[03:20] <babyju> fwbuilder or firestarter for managing iptables?
[03:20] <zoot666> im on a deskto[
[03:21] <zoot666> what card do i use?
[03:21] <john__> Is there a popular free burning software for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <salty> anything with an atheros chip will work or a prism chip
[03:21] <xtknight> !wireless
[03:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:21] <kieran> yes it is
[03:22] <mattyv> babyju: shorewall, although firestarter is simpler
[03:22] <thak> does anyone know how to change the desktop environment in ltsp (from xfce to enlightenment, for example)?
[03:22] <mattyv> john__: K3B, gnomebaker
[03:22] <Stormx2> Hey everyone. Need some advice on an installation! I've downloaded, verified, burnt (then verified) xubuntu version 6.10. The CD boots fine on this machine, but another, it won't boot. The boot order is correct. The BIOS says "Checking for boot record on cd.." for a few seconds then boots from the hard drive. I know the CD is bootable (it is on this machine), but it won't boot on the other. Any suggestions?
[03:22] <crimsun_> sanityx: linux single
[03:22] <sanityx> crimsun, ?
[03:22] <john__> thanks mattyv
[03:22] <Stormx2> Oh, and I tried with ubuntu dapper drake, shipit CDs.
[03:23] <crimsun_> sanityx: at the boot prompt. If you want the equivalent of inittab(5), see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/72058
[03:23] <salty> is th bios set to boot from cd?
[03:23] <babyju> thanks for your opinion mattyv
[03:23] <sanityx> crimsun, yes but how do I change the DEFAULT runlevel.
[03:23] <crimsun_> sanityx: again, see the bug report.
[03:23] <sanityx> ok
[03:23] <mattyv> john__: no probs, gnomebaker fits more nicely with gnome, but K3B is a very nice app
[03:23] <hateyla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10832/    problem with checking all file system on system boot. if anyone can solve i really thanksfull to him
[03:24] <john__> I have Ubuntu though.
[03:24] <Stormx2> john__: it doesn't matter.
[03:24] <thak> stormx: if the bios is set correctly, you might also try forcing the cd drive to be the primary master (no cable select)
[03:24] <john__> Oh,
[03:24] <mattyv> babyju: for the record, I haven't used fwbuilder so I don't have an opinion on it
[03:24] <Stormx2> thak: Fiddle with the jumper?
[03:25] <Netham45> YAY!
[03:25] <Netham45> now connected through a WEP Enabled WIFI router VIA ndiswrapper!
[03:25] <thak> storm: yes.  and see if it'll boot if it's the only drive in the system (and primary master).  i've seen some older machines wig out when booting from cds
[03:25] <Netham45> w00t
[03:25] <thak> netham: congrats!
[03:26] <zoot666> vdoes anyone use a pci wifi card for linux?
[03:26] <Stormx2> thak: I don't know what the configuration is at the moment. The machine has been a firewall for years, running windows 2000. I know next to nothing about the hardware. The boot order when i first got hold of it was CD ROM, HDD.
[03:26] <xtknight> hateyla: i saw the same problem the other way, although all the information i could find said to ignore the problem
[03:27] <Stormx2> thak: So what exactly do I do? CD ROM becomes primary master, HDD stays as it is?
[03:27] <xtknight> hateyla: it does not appear to be a serious problem
[03:27] <Flare183> ok
[03:27] <Stormx2> thak: unless the HDD is primary master, then it becomes.... ?
[03:27] <thak> storm:  depends on what the...yeah.  you figured it out.  ;-)
[03:27] <thak> storm:  i'd put them on two separate cables, that way, you're guaranteed to not have any issues.
[03:27] <popetmaster> / server www.irc.cl
[03:28] <Stormx2> thak: Primary Slave? Secondary master? I'm not used to fiddling with this...
[03:28] <hateyla> xtknight:  i ignore it.. but at that particuler time my HD reading alot.. and system going too slow..
[03:28] <thak> lol

[03:28] <zoot666> are the IBM r40 thinkpads fully supported?
[03:28] <Flare183> now i have a problem i have aiglx working but this i what i get when i type in glxinfohttp://pastebin.ca/399578
[03:28] <Stormx2> (^.^)
[03:28] <Flare183> now i have a problem i have aiglx working but this i what i get when i type in glxinfohttp://pastebin.ca/399578
[03:28] <Flare183> now i have a problem i have aiglx working but this i what i get when i type in glxinfo
[03:28] <salty> ide0 hdd primary master... ide1 cd primary master
[03:28] <xtknight> !repeat | Flare183
[03:28] <ubotu> Flare183: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:28] <Flare183> http://pastebin.ca/399578
[03:28] <Flare183> sorry
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> zoot666: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[03:28] <zoot666> are the IBM r40 thinkpads fully supported?
[03:28] <Flare183> sorry
[03:28] <Stormx2> Flare183: Stop right now.
[03:28] <sirwilliam> hello all...how can i get my Broadcom BCM4318 wireless working?
[03:28] <xtknight> hateyla: it is doing a file system check, meaning it is checking your hard disk.  even if you did not have the FSINFO error, it would still have to check the disk
[03:29] <thak> storm: you have primary and secondary ide channels in most (ide-based) machines.  each channel has a master/slave
[03:29] <Flare183> sirwilliams with my script
[03:29] <sirwilliam> i have tried bcm43xx-fwcutter or whatever....and running that script, but it apparently doesn't work
[03:29] <vox754> sirwilliam, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[03:29] <Fagnuttius> i'm feelin bom bom diggy DCC SEND "JEWS_DID_WTC" right
[03:29] <sirwilliam> sweet...thanks
[03:29] <xtknight> sirwilliam: i can give you a few pointers.  the kernel has a module called bcm43xx which supports some of the 43xx series.  you might have to extract "firmware" out of a windows driver for it, using a program called fwcutter
[03:29] <Netham45> o.o
[03:29] <xtknight> !ops
[03:29] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[03:29] <Flare183> what is your e-mail
[03:29] <Netham45> netsplit....
[03:29] <sirwilliam> xtknight:  i have used this script
[03:29] <bruenig> Netham45, DCC
[03:29] <Netham45> ?
[03:30] <Fagnuttius> bom bom jiggy DCC SEND "JEWS_DID_WTC" right
[03:30] <hateyla> xtknight:  just problem with the FAT partition .. i have 2 ext3 And 1 NTFS nothing problem with them.. just problem with FAT
[03:30] <Netham45> bruenig: what?
[03:30] <bruenig> Netham45, it wasn't a netsplit, it is Fangnuttius
[03:30] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> what is your e-mail address and I will send it to you?
[03:30] <Netham45> ?
[03:30] <thak> storm: so if you set the jumper on the cd drive to 'master' and plug it into the 'primary' channel, that's "primary master"
[03:30] <Stormx2> thak: Ah, I see! In the bios, hdd is on primary master, cdrom is on secondary master. Could you confirm to me what the jumpers need to be set to? >__< I'm quite inexperienced at this.
[03:30] <xtknight> Netham45: it was some ddc exploit
[03:30] <vox754> sirwilliam, according to that page your specific chipset 4318 is unstable so you may need to use ndiswrapper.
[03:30] <Stormx2> Ah, okay
[03:30] <Stormx2> Thanks thak!
[03:31] <thak> storm: then you can leave the jumper on the hard drive however it was and plug it into the secondary controller.
[03:31] <Stormx2> thak: How will I know which is the primary channel? xD
[03:31] <sirwilliam> vox754:  sounds lame...is ndiswrapper easy?
[03:31] <Netham45> sirwilliam: nope
[03:31] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> exactly no
[03:31] <Netham45> took me a week, but Im finally runing on it.
[03:31] <thak> storm:  lol.  you've got to read the (tiny) writing on the motherboard.  ;-)
[03:31] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> that's why i made a script to get over it all
[03:31] <thak> storm: your bios should also give you some indications on what's installed where when you boot up
[03:32] <vox754> sirwilliam, pretty easy actually. Although I'm not sure if you need to use fwcutter to get the drivers.
[03:32] <Flare183> I need some help to through: with AIGLX
[03:32] <xtknight> hateyla: yeah, i know.  it can only happen on FAT partitions.  for now you will just have to ignore the problem.  if you really want to try fixing it you can try running "sudo fsck.vfat /fat/device"
[03:32] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  where's this script?  fwcutter is yours?
[03:32] <Flare183> fwcutter (I know) won't cut it
[03:32] <Flare183> no
[03:32] <Netham45> sirwilliam: ndiswrapper lets you use your windows drivers for it in linux
[03:33] <hateyla> want to ask one more thing.. can i boot my system through USB?
[03:33] <xtknight> i've used fwcutter with success
[03:33] <sirwilliam> i'd rather it be native if possible
[03:33] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> what is your e-mail?
[03:33] <xtknight> in tandem with the kernel module
[03:33] <xtknight> hateyla: like, boot off a usb drive?
[03:33] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> and i will send it to you
[03:33] <Jaguar> fwcutter worked for me as well -  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[03:33] <xtknight> hateyla: i think that may be possible.  i got SUSE Linux on a USB hard drive one time.  i'm not sure if ubuntu can install to USB hard drives, though.
[03:33] <sirwilliam> Flare183: jvitosky a t gmail d o t com
[03:33] <Flare183> fwcutter didn't for me so
[03:34] <bruenig> xtknight, it can I saw it on digg
[03:34] <salty> yes ubuntu is bootable from usb drive
[03:34] <xtknight> Flare183: why isn't the script publicly available ?
[03:35] <Flare183> xtknight:> no i made it
[03:35] <ubuntu610> hola
[03:35] <Netham45> does EDGY support dual-screen?
[03:35] <xtknight> Netham45: yes
[03:35] <hateyla> salty: can i ask how ? how can i boot from USB?
[03:35] <bruenig> !xinerama
[03:35] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[03:35] <Netham45> ooh
[03:35] <Netham45> !DualHead
[03:35] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:35] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  you could pastebin it
[03:36] <xtknight> you can also have the screens independent
[03:36] <sirwilliam> whatever
[03:36] <Flare183> yeh
[03:36] <tjl30> what is it called what a rar file is split up into a bunch of smaller files?
[03:36] <xtknight> tjl30: spanning
[03:36] <vox754> I've read that the only special thing you need to boot from USB is that your BIOS supports it, that is it must be a recent BIOS.
[03:36] <salty> boot up live cd and locate the usb drive name and then install to that drive...then change the location in grub
[03:36] <Flare183> http://pastebin.ca/399587
[03:36] <ubuntu610> cuando va estar ubuntu feisty?
[03:36] <Flare183> there you go
[03:36] <bruenig> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:37] <Flare183> part of it
[03:37] <vox754> !feisty
[03:37] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:37] <hateyla> salty:  tx
[03:37] <salty> yw
[03:38] <Hyper-cool> does ubuntu not install gstreamer by default? all my apps are complaining that they don't have the right gstreamer plugins to play mp3's or movies
[03:38] <Jaguar> Out of pure curiousity, is there a rhyme or reason to Ubuntu release names (like how Debian releases were named after Toy Story characters)?
[03:38] <Flare183> sirwilliams:> ok check your e-mail
[03:38] <bruenig> Hyper-cool, it does not, you need to install it
[03:38] <xtknight> Jaguar: well all of them are related to animals afaik
[03:38] <bruenig> !quicktime | Hyper-cool
[03:38] <ubotu> Hyper-cool: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:38] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>should be there in a minute or two
[03:38] <hateyla> is there any option name " gdm setup " ?
[03:38] <xtknight> hateyla: are you talking about the "gdmsetup" command?
[03:39] <hateyla> xtknight:  want to change login screen.
[03:39] <fnf> hateyla: gdmsetup
[03:39] <salty> not all gstreamer plugins are loaded by default
[03:39] <xtknight> hateyla: yes that is what you want
[03:39] <vox754> Flare183, you mean you are not using the native driver but a different setup using ndiswrapper?
[03:40] <Flare183> no because this version is modified esp. for the broadcom wireless card
[03:40] <cleric> for some reason on my laptop (toshiba satellite a105-s2051 uses ati chipset w/ celeron m) in ubuntu only ... my usb mice stop working
[03:40] <cleric> like after a few mins
[03:41] <fnf> cleric: is there anything in syslog ?
[03:41] <Netham45> hmm
[03:41] <Netham45> did I loose connection?
[03:41] <sirwilliam> nope
[03:41] <salty> nope
[03:41] <Netham45> nope
[03:41] <Netham45> just got a major lag
[03:41] <xtknight> :P
[03:41] <Flare183> nope
[03:41] <salty> lol
[03:41] <Flare183> figure
[03:41] <Goldfire> installing ubuntu seems difficult.... does a remote connection should help me ?
[03:42] <kingcobra_> nope
[03:42] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  so the ndiswrapper in the repos is no good for me?
[03:42] <Flare183> depends on the kernel
[03:42] <Netham45> sirwilliam: you want to get 1.38(latest) most likely.
[03:42] <Flare183> but just go with mine.
[03:42] <sirwilliam> hmm....
[03:42] <vox754> sirwilliam, actually, it seems that is better to get the latest as other people suggest.
[03:42] <sirwilliam> can i trust you Flare?
[03:42] <Flare183> try that if you can't get it stop it
[03:42] <cleric> there are some IRQ INTR_SF lossage errors
[03:43] <blanky> jrib: you there, how can I delete ln -s's
[03:43] <jrib> blanky: rm
[03:43] <cleric> fnf: but after i unplug the mouse cause it stops, it doesn't get detected again ... and noacpi isn't an option cause then nowireless :(
[03:43] <sirwilliam> flare183:  what version is your ndiswraper?
[03:43] <blanky> jrib: example? please? :(
[03:43] <vox754> cleric, sorry, no experience with that
[03:43] <balzac> my ubuntu won't upgrade because of some package problem
[03:43] <kingcobra_> is there a gui for mounting partitions
[03:43] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>the one i am using now?
[03:44] <salty> rm -v <wheteveryouareremoving>
[03:44] <xtknight> kingcobra_: in dapper there was some disk manager.  i dont know about edgy
[03:44] <AzMoo> How can I remove packages that are no longer required?
[03:44] <balzac> salty, do you think i can strip out some packages and thereby regain my ability to upgrade?
[03:44] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>1.8-0ubuntu2
[03:44] <xtknight> AzMoo: sudo apt-get remove pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 pkg4 pkgN
[03:44] <cleric> vox754: never seen anything like this before myself ... none of my other systems do this, nor does this laptop do this in any distro other than ubuntu ... including debian
[03:44] <vox754> kingcobra_, there was in 6.06 and they removed it. It is not hard to mount them, and this is stuff an administrator should do, so the terminal is actually a good way to do it.
[03:45] <kingcobra_> :)
[03:45] <salty> you should still be able tto upgrade
[03:45] <Flare183> did you get that?
[03:45] <kingcobra_> vox754, why shud administrators hav to use the terminal only
[03:46] <xtknight> i like Windows xp's computer management/disk management page actually
[03:46] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  yes
[03:46] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>did it work?
[03:46] <balzac> i wish i were in charge of designing interfaces for open-source projects
[03:46] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>it does require sudo
[03:46] <kieran> i have tried the steps prescribed in the wifidocs for the trouble with my wireless card, but to avail, any more help? i did a iwconfig command and eth1 does recognise my card.
[03:47] <vox754> kingcobra_, because they are smart. You need to perform a lot of stuff without GUI in some computers that lack any X server
[03:47] <voltagex> why would I not be getting any cron logs at all?
[03:47] <Jaguar> vox754: I wouldn't say smart... proficient is a better word :P.
[03:47] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  gimme one sec...i'll tell ya in a few
[03:47] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>ok
[03:47] <vox754> xtknight, where is that disk management?
[03:47] <russell190> hi every1
[03:47] <balzac> voltagex,  you didn't make the proper sacrifice to the cron gods
[03:47] <vox754> Jaguar, okay. I agree.
[03:48] <xtknight> vox754: i was talking about XP.  in XP it's control panel->administrative tools->computer management->Disk management on left treeview
[03:48] <balzac> sorry for the useless smartass answer.
[03:48] <voltagex> balzac: that's not helpful, I"m currently being laughed at for my choice of distro in #linux
[03:48] <Jaguar> vox754: But I do agree if you, sometimes it's just easier to do something via command line, if, of course, you know how.
[03:48] <balzac> what, ubuntu?
[03:48] <russell190> ppl, i need your help. Please dont get angry at me. I need people to come to irc.wii-battle.com . We are trying to get it more active, so people plz type /server -m irc.wii-battle.com
[03:48] <[BTF] Chm0d> what is a good a program to burn cds for gnome?
[03:49] <vox754> xtknight, yeah, I know you were talking about XP. I wanted to try that one. What is so special about it?
[03:49] <Pelo> btf  gnomebaker
[03:49] <bruenig> !burn
[03:49] <voltagex> balzac: yes
[03:49] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:49] <[BTF] Chm0d> ty
[03:49] <balzac> shit, my ubuntu upgraded successfully
[03:49] <kingcobra_> vox754, can you please tel me how to mount a partition using terminal then
[03:49] <xtknight> vox754: not really that special, i just find it a convenient GUI for managing HDs/partitions and i think that Ubuntu should have an equivalent
[03:49] <balzac> good deal
[03:49] <xtknight> !language | balzac
[03:49] <ubotu> balzac: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:49] <balzac> merde
[03:49] <bruenig> kingcobra_, sudo mount -t <filesystem> /dev/<name> /mount/point
[03:49] <mEck0> is there a vizulations plugin for Rhythmbox?
[03:50] <vox754> kingcobra_, okay, enter my realm #vocx
[03:50] <Airforce5555> I need a fl studio type program for linux!!!!!!!
[03:50] <russell190> ppl, i need your help. Please dont get angry at me. I need people to come to irc.wii-battle.com . We are trying to get it more active, so people plz type /server -m irc.wii-battle.com
[03:50] <bruenig> !ops | russell190
[03:50] <ubotu> russell190: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[03:50] <adcurtin> I am having some trouble with a usb key: it has two partitions, a cdfs one (read only) and a normal one.  I don't care about the size, the cdfs partition is only 2MB, but it is read only and has autosvr (which is flagged as a virus) and autoruns that (I don't know why it's there, that is how it came, it was a freebie from Cisco). I would like to wipe out the whole key and just have it be one partition. how would I do this?
[03:50] <xtknight> Airforce5555: fruity loops?
[03:50] <Airforce5555> I need a fl studio type program for linux!!!!!!!
[03:50] <Airforce5555> yep
[03:50] <kieran> anyone in for a challenge with the problem that i have?
[03:50] <balzac> voltagex, i would ask the distro of the people laughing at your distro
[03:50] <xtknight> Airforce5555: there are a couple.  sadly the names escape me at the moment, but just know that there are some out there ;)
[03:50] <Airforce5555> ive tried rosegarden but the midi output didnt work
[03:50] <xtknight> !ask | kieran
[03:50] <ubotu> kieran: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:51] <Pelo> kieran,  we don't play guess the problem here,  if you have one , state it
[03:51] <rEvolution27> hey, I just installed compiz and when I start it, I get windows with no borders
[03:51] <xtknight> Airforce5555: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/11/28/linux-music-lmms-linuxs-own-fruity-loops/
[03:51] <kieran> going and reading the wifidocs did help but im not any further with my wireless card issue
[03:51] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  stuck at "DHCPACK from <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:51] <sirwilliam> bound to <IP_ADDRESS> -- renewal in 38200 seconds."
[03:51] <bruenig> !compiz | rEvolution27 #ubuntu-effects
[03:51] <ubotu> rEvolution27 #ubuntu-effects: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:51] <Airforce5555> k thanks
[03:52] <Pelo> rEvolution27,  change the theme, don't ask me how, try in #compiz
[03:52] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>then it worked
[03:52] <SurfnKid> hi guys
[03:52] <Flare183> close the termainl
[03:52] <sirwilliam> and restart nm-applet??
[03:52] <cleric> to any who care about the usb HID devices "crashing" ... - noapic irqpoll pci=routeirq is what's needed :)
[03:52] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>yes
[03:52] <Netham45> whoa
[03:52] <sirwilliam> Flare183:  i can disconnect ethernet??
[03:52] <Netham45> x just restarted.
[03:52] <Flare183> yes
[03:52] <SurfnKid> can anyone help me figure out why sometimes when I initiate any program in the Administration section, the window doesnt fully initiate. or it takes a few minutes
[03:52] <sirwilliam> alright, bbiaf
[03:52] <kieran> i did a iwconfig command and it does recognise my card but there is no signal and subsequently no power going to the card
[03:53] <kingcobra_> bruenig, thanx
[03:53] <Netham45> kieran try iwconfig --help
[03:53] <Netham45> There is a power level option
[03:53] <kieran> i will thanks
[03:53] <Pelo> SurfnKid,  what program ?
[03:53] <Netham45> (but I forgot the paramaters)
[03:53] <xtknight> Airforce5555: lmms is available in the repositories
[03:53] <xtknight> !info lmms | Airforce5555
[03:53] <ubotu> airforce5555: lmms: Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional.  Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[03:54] <Pelo> john__,  I don't think so , but the install takes only 30 minutes so ...
[03:54] <levander> Where can I look up Ubuntu's release schedule?
[03:54] <bruenig> !feisty | levander
[03:54] <ubotu> levander: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:55] <john__> Well, I wanna do some messin around with, but wanna make sure I can go back to a point, hehe
[03:55] <Dracula}X{> anyone here really familiar with wine?
[03:55] <xtknight> Dracula}X{: #winehq maybe
[03:55] <bruenig> Dracula}X{, relatively, throw out the question
[03:55] <Pelo> Dracula}X{,   #winehq
[03:55] <bruenig> john__, you can't unless you want to backup
[03:55] <bruenig> john__, or just keep track of what you are doing and make sure you know how to undo it before you do it
[03:56] <Dracula}X{> ok, so this prolly has come up, but I am trying to install WoW using wine, I am not using the CD's I am using the full installer from blizzard, half way or more through the install it errors out
[03:56] <xtknight> john__: like messing with what?
[03:56] <bruenig> !wow
[03:56] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:56] <balzac> hello again
[03:56] <voltagex> games, ubuntu? *cough*
[03:56] <john__> Well I wanna put NTFS-3G or whatever on here
[03:56] <balzac> how do i test the version of my ubuntu?
[03:56] <salty> wb balzac
[03:56] <bruenig> !ntfs-3g
[03:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:56] <john__> But since Im new to Ubuntu, I might mess something up
[03:56] <balzac> thanks salty
[03:56] <john__> STFU ubotu :(
[03:56] <Jaguar> There were really that many WoW questions for ubotu to get a factiod? I'm impressed.
[03:56] <Pelo> john__,  you can make your home folder on a seperate partition,  this would enable you to reinstall from scratch without loosing your parameters and data
[03:56] <guideX> so is ubuntu winning over vista?
[03:56] <john__> Hrm..
[03:57] <guideX> as far as desktop users go
[03:57] <Pelo> john__,  ubotu  is a bot
[03:57] <kawaiitentaclebe> hm
[03:57] <bruenig> guideX, no
[03:57] <john__> Oh, hehe
[03:57] <kawaiitentaclebe> so
[03:57] <Jaguar> !ubotu
[03:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:57] <adcurtin> How can I repartition a usb stick from terminal
[03:57] <Pelo> guideX,  vista is loosing to XP ,
[03:57] <guideX> ahh
[03:57] <bruenig> you can partition usb sticks?
[03:57] <john__> I shall try your method Pelo
[03:57] <xtknight> yup
[03:57] <salty> ok...good nite all
[03:57] <mobiGeek> ubotu: php5 segfault
[03:57] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[03:57] <blanky> can someone help me in #ubuntu-server? no one seems to be awake in there
[03:57] <kawaiitentaclebe> so
[03:58] <xtknight> adcurtin: fdisk or cfdisk  i suppose, if you must do it from the terminal.  there is also 'parted'
[03:58] <kieran> netham45, is the power management level "iwconfig power" ?
[03:58] <kawaiitentaclebe> I can't boot from hdd
[03:58] <mobiGeek> ubotu: segfault
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about segfault - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <blanky> I installed php5 and when I view my site it doesn't read php files, it just shows them as textfiles
[03:58] <bruenig> !fishing | mobiGeek
[03:58] <blanky> I already restarted my server, nothing
[03:58] <ubotu> mobiGeek: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:58] <kawaiitentaclebe> GRUBHard DIsk Error
[03:58] <mobiGeek> bruenig: thanks
[03:58] <kawaiitentaclebe> what does that mean?
[03:58] <guideX> anyone know of operating system useage comparisons or percentages?
[03:59] <Darkkish> what is the diff between ubuntu and debian?
[03:59] <guideX> how many % wise are using what
[03:59] <Pelo> kawaiitentaclebe,  I think that grub can't find your boot partition , might want to go and ask in #grub
[03:59] <Netham45> x.x
[03:59] <Netham45> stupid wifi
[03:59] <guideX> Darkkish ubuntu is based on debian
[03:59] <balzac> ok, my ubuntu did not upgrade
[03:59] <xtknight> guideX: maybe look on google's statistics.
[03:59] <kawaiitentaclebe> hm
[03:59] <kawaiitentaclebe> ok
[03:59] <balzac> it seemed like it had succeeded but it did not
[03:59] <Sugr> Has anyone used Splunk for managing log files?
[03:59] <Netham45> it wouldn't be nearly as bad if I wasn't so far away from the damn router...
[03:59] <Darkkish> then why shouldn't i just get debian with gnome?
[03:59] <bruenig> guideX, breakdown for you here: windows 95% mac: 3.5 % linux: 1.5%, approximations
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Netham45
[03:59] <ubotu> Netham45: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:59] <Pelo> Darkkish,  ubuntu is a fork of debian , intended to be more user friendly and noob freindly
[03:59] <balzac> i added a couple shady reposititories, i suppose
[03:59] <Netham45> oh
[03:59] <Netham45> yea
[03:59] <mattyv> Darkkish: More manual configuration
[04:00] <Netham45> this server doesn't have server censors.
[04:00] <balzac> what log can i consult to see what is blocking my upgrade?
[04:00] <mattyv> Darkkish: in debian that is
[04:00] <guideX> Darkkish ubuntu is easier to install with a larger device database (i think? (i'm noob to ubuntu too))
[04:00] <Pelo> Darkkish,  by all means if you want debian go for it
[04:00] <guideX> debian is cool too.. i've tried them both, i prefer ubuntu though.. although they're very similar
[04:00] <Jaguar> Darkkish: Ubuntu is geared towards a more user-oriented type of OS, meaning more packages that you might use as a normal user will be updated more often, and I personally find the community far more helpful towards new users.
[04:00] <Darkkish> Pelo no, actually i already have xubuntu on my lappy and kubuntu on my desktop,
[04:00] <Darkkish> i was asking for someone else
[04:01] <Darkkish> trying to get an opinon
[04:01] <Darkkish> opinion
[04:01] <SurfnKid> Ubuntu
[04:01] <SurfnKid> period
[04:01] <bruenig> gtnoo
[04:01] <Darkkish> i said ubuntu, someone else said debian.
[04:01] <bruenig> gentoo
[04:01] <balzac> somebody help me
[04:01] <balzac> my ubuntu won't upgrade
[04:01] <guideX> debian sarge when i tried it was cool... it wasn't as user friendly though
[04:01] <Darkkish> anyways, second question
[04:01] <SurfnKid> but if you like to go deep debian/gentoo
[04:01] <balzac> what log can i consult to see what is blocking my upgrade?
[04:01] <bruenig> freebsd
[04:01] <eck> Darkkish: you might want to ask #debian for their thoughts
[04:01] <Flare183> sirwilliams:>well got to go
[04:01] <voltagex> Jaguar: more user friendly but not hardware friendly, I can't even get my TV card to work in it
[04:01] <Flare183> bye
[04:01] <Darkkish> meh
[04:01] <Sugr> Has anyone had any experiances with Splunk? http://www.splunk.com/products/218
[04:01] <guideX> anyone here tried feisty, is it much different
[04:01] <bruenig> !tvout | voltagex
[04:01] <ubotu> voltagex: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[04:01] <Darkkish> his install is hanging on 83%
[04:02] <SurfnKid> guideX: i have not, im still on edgy
[04:02] <voltagex> eck: wow, that's a way to start a flamewar
[04:02] <guideX> me too
[04:02] <kieran> how do i manage the power on my wireless card?
[04:02] <SurfnKid> is Fiesty final?
[04:02] <voltagex> bruenig: no, not tv-out, DVB
[04:02] <Pelo> Darkkish,  ubuntu is the flavor of the month, it's a great intro into the linux world for windows user,  all distros have their strong points,  except for Suse which is a sell out
[04:02] <bruenig> SurfnKid, no
[04:02] <guideX> no
[04:02] <balzac> maybe i should start my own distro
[04:02] <Netham45> guideX: is it stable at all?
[04:02] <balzac> i'll call it ballzbuntu
[04:02] <SurfnKid> bruenig: cool, not that i wanna go to it, but im having some weird issues on Edgy
[04:02] <guideX> i do not know i have not tried it.. i am too wondering if i should but i asume it's not too different
[04:02] <cables> SuSe itself isn't so bad, Novell, who makes it, is.
[04:03] <mattyv> Darkkish: Try booting with noapic nolapic at boot prompt. F6, go along to the end of the line and add those, then press enter
[04:03] <bruenig> suse was bad for me
[04:03] <guideX> hey wait, don't tell me the linux flavor of the month changes from month to month?
[04:03] <voltagex> balzac: I don't even want to think about the default desktop background on that one
[04:03] <eck> voltagex: as opposed to going on #ubuntu and asking why you shouldn't just use debian?
[04:03] <SurfnKid> guideX: ubuntu i thinkn every 6 mo
[04:03] <Jaguar> I use Debian on one of my servers, I like it for its stability (at least stable build, though it does lag behind in updates because of all the testing).
[04:03] <voltagex> eck: true
[04:03] <voltagex> eck: either way ot
[04:03] <balzac> hey, i know why dell won't put linux on their machines
[04:03] <SurfnKid> Jaguar: thats why i went with ubuntu cuz its based on debian
[04:03] <voltagex> eck: either way it's a flamewar eventually
[04:04] <balzac> dell doesn't want their brand associated with linux at this point
[04:04] <SurfnKid> balzac: y?
[04:04] <Pelo> guideX,   it's a figure of speach, but there is a new distro ( or at least a new release of a distro) about every month
[04:04] <RocketRay> ummm anyone know where I can find a list of packe=age requirements for quicktime ?
[04:04] <Jaguar> SurfnKid: Same here, I like aptitude a lot.
[04:04] <SurfnKid> balzac: yea not yet
[04:04] <naknomik> I need to buy a Wireless PC Card for my laptop, are there some cards that are known to work well with ubuntu?
[04:04] <balzac> you know what needs to happen?
[04:04] <mobiGeek> is anyone here successfully running apache2 and php5 ubuntu-server ?
[04:04] <bruenig> balzac, what do you want, the suggestion thing is what 3 weeks old. How fast do you think they move
[04:04] <SurfnKid> i gotta get a littlre more into aptitude
[04:04] <DWRZ> Hello. I mounted a partition I made in windows, in fstab I have this /dev/hda4 /media/hda4 vfat users,rw 0 0. But for some reason I do not have permissions to read-write on the partition...any place I can find good documentation on how to mount a partition?
[04:04] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: i am
[04:04] <SurfnKid> cuz i'll eventually overdose on CLI
[04:04] <SurfnKid> so i bettter learn it
[04:04] <Netham45> naknomik: I am on a Belkin F51070(or something) that I got to work
[04:04] <Sugr> mobiGeek: Yes, with eaccelerator too :)
[04:04] <Netham45> it's a PCMCIA card
[04:04] <mobiGeek> I'm getting a segfault from apache when I enable the php5 mod and try to start it up
[04:04] <Pelo> !restricted | RocketRay  this will let you play qucktime files
[04:04] <ubotu> RocketRay  this will let you play qucktime files: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <pisedoffcrack> anyone know where to get bios for ubuntus psx emulator?
[04:05] <SurfnKid> !mountt
[04:05] <SurfnKid> !mount
[04:05] <Netham45> http://www.google.com
[04:05] <Darkkish> mattyv isn't F6 for raid and sata? there are no sata or raid drivers
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <DWRZ> ?
[04:05] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: is everything up to date? what version of php/apache are you running
[04:05] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:05] <Darkkish> mattyv drives*
[04:05] <balzac> linux has some issues to deal with before it will be embraced by vendors of home computers
[04:05] <SurfnKid> !DiskMounter -> DWRZ
[04:05] <bruenig> DWRZ, /dev/hda4 /media/hd4 vfat user,auto.fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:05] <DWRZ> ok thanks
[04:05] <voltagex> pisedoffcrack: that's not a question you can ask here
[04:05] <balzac> it's internal political differences which may require arbitration
[04:05] <RocketRay> thank You
[04:05] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: what's the quickest cmd I can run to get versions for php and apache?
[04:05] <DWRZ> thanks!
[04:05] <SurfnKid> np
[04:06] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: (sorry, I'm coming from a Fedora/RH background)
[04:06] <mattyv> Darkkish: Umm, I'll try to be a bit clearer. Once the cd has gotten to the screen where you can select Boot/Install, Safe graphics mode etc. That's where you press F6
[04:06] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: php -v and apache2 --version or something around that
[04:06] <kieran> does anyone know how to set the power of a bcm4306 pcmcia wireless card?
[04:06] <lordhelmet> apache2 -v
[04:06] <sirwilliam_> Flame183:  wired connection only!
[04:06] <DWRZ> I keep getting "/media/hda4...ycled/info2" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[04:06] <balzac> sometimes it's bad when communities compete instead of cooperate
[04:06] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: ah, okay...i thought it would be an "apt" or "dpkg" cmd
[04:06] <bruenig> DWRZ, change the fstab and remount it
[04:07] <Sugr> Has anyone had any experiances with Splunk? http://www.splunk.com/products/218 need to know if Its worth using it
[04:07] <Pelo> kieran,  try looking up the make and model in the forum you might find answers there
[04:07] <Darkkish> http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12355-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=31199&messageID=579806&start=43
[04:07] <balzac> sometimes there's too many redundant alternatives all fighting for mind-share, creating uncertainty
[04:07] <Sugr> Or are any better packages available
[04:07] <DWRZ> I did change the fstab, let me try unmount and remounting though.
[04:07] <Netham45> ooh
[04:07] <Netham45> kbuntu appears to support 2 monitors out of the box
[04:07] <balzac> if two groups could be convinced to merge in certian cases, it might be better
[04:07] <sirwilliam_> wow....Flame183 isn't hear anymore??
[04:07] <DWRZ> huh. I am getting: "mount: mount point /media/hd4 does not exist"
[04:07] <guideX> so anyone have experience installing beryl with a nvidia gforce 440 under ubuntu?
[04:07] <Pelo> DWRZ,  caps count
[04:08] <tesla> Can anyone please recommand some simple and fun games on ubuntu?
[04:08] <kieran> pelo, i have all the drivers setup but there doesn't seem to have any power to it, is that a problem with the card?
[04:08] <DWRZ> wait...typo maybe X)
[04:08] <bruenig> tesla, frozen-bubble, supertux
[04:08] <lordhelmet> Sugr: what's this accelerator??
[04:08] <Netham45> tesla: well, I like playing half-life on it.
[04:08] <Netham45> but that's not 'simple'
[04:08] <Pelo> kieran,  no idea,  that's why I was directing you to the forum
[04:08] <Netham45> nor is it 'easy' to install.
[04:08] <bruenig> I like to play N
[04:08] <bruenig> but that install is a little different
[04:08] <Sugr> lordhelmet: No, it's a log manager, just wondering if anyone used it before, and suggest it or can suggest using something else
[04:08] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: php 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.6  and apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1
[04:08] <kieran> pelo, thanks
[04:09] <sirwilliam_> anybody know how to get broadcom bc4318 working??
[04:09] <tesla> OK, thanks for the suggetion, I'll try it!
[04:09] <Pelo> Netham45,  menu > applications > add /remove,  there is a list of games in there
[04:09] <guideX> is there a great space sim for linux on the line of: freelancer, freespace 2, descent 1/2/3?
[04:09] <DWRZ> OK. Typo fixed, and it mounts the drive, but I still don't have permission to edit folders!
[04:09] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: (I used:   dpkg -l | egrep "(apache2|php5)"   )
[04:09] <Netham45> pelo: why was that directed at me?
[04:09] <DWRZ> edit/create/etc.
[04:09] <mattyv> I'm rather sure that zdnet post was deliberate, sarcasm
[04:09] <DWRZ> read-write :P
[04:09] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: have you configured a bunch of stuff or can you aptitude purge apache and php related things and get a fresh start?
[04:10] <Pelo> Netham45,  is had your name in front of it, so yes
[04:10] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I can certainly undo/redo.
[04:10] <balzac> pastebin
[04:10] <Netham45> pelo: ***why*** was that directed at me?
[04:10] <balzac> !pastebin
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:10] <CaptainMorgan> I am about to apply a driver for the UPS made by APC - the ES series... 550va, from a third hit off google for Edgy. It wasn't official, so I am asking here if anyone has done this or things this is a good idea?
[04:10] <Pelo> Netham45,  caused you asked about games ?
[04:10] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: so do I  "sudo aptitude purge apache2 php5"  ?
[04:11] <Netham45> pelo: nope, no I didn't. :)
[04:11] <Netham45> tesla asked that.
[04:11] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek only do that if you are just starting out and haven't configured a bunch of things. also are you running 6.06.1 or 6.10? make sure everything else is up to date as well with an 'aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade'
[04:11] <Pelo> Netham45,  sorry my mistake
[04:12] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: for all intents and purposes, I'm just starting out.
[04:12] <Netham45> will programs that run in GNOME run in KDE(such as Opera)?
[04:12] <balzac> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10846/
[04:12] <balzac> that's my error message
[04:12] <guideX> opera? why not use firefox?
[04:12] <Pelo> Netham45,  they will install the extra stuff they need to run so yes
[04:12] <balzac> Show me some ubuntu, guys!
[04:12] <eck> guideX: why question someone else's use of software?
[04:12] <sirwilliam_> anybody know how to get broadcom bc4318 working??
[04:12] <levander> Why does Ubuntu call beta CD's "Herds"? In the right hand column: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[04:13] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: apparently I'm already at 6.10
[04:13] <Netham45> guideX, I loathe Firefox.
[04:13] <guideX> just because opera isn't very compatible with all websites where firefox works for everything outside of microsofts activex controls
[04:13] <guideX> whys that
[04:13] <Netham45> -.-
[04:13] <Netham45> you do realize that firefox and opera are built on the same engine, right?
[04:13] <levander> I thought they were talking about GNU Hurd when I first saw that.
[04:13] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I believe it was right after I upgraded from 6.06.1 to 6.10 that I got this segfault (but I didn't notice that my website was down...  :-( )
[04:13] <guideX> i didn't!
[04:13] <eck> guideX: anyway, software advocacy is really quickly going to start a flamewar and be off topic
[04:13] <Pelo> balzac,   open up synaptic and reennable all the extra repos
[04:14] <trond> How do I remove a symbolic link? I went for binding the ftpdirectories in fstab instead.
[04:14] <balzac> ok
[04:14] <guideX> but when i use opera to view my website it comes up garbled
[04:14] <Pelo> trond,   delete it
[04:14] <Netham45> anyone know the size of KDE off of the top of their head?
[04:14] <guideX> but maybe it was an old version
[04:14] <mobiGeek> trond: rm <path_to_symlink>
[04:14] <kbrosnan> Netham45: wrong opera uses Presto, Firefo uses Gecko
[04:14] <Netham45> kbrosnan: both are built off of the netscape engine.
[04:14] <balzac> Pelo, including one repository i added myself?
[04:14] <kbrosnan> Netham45: no
[04:14] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: are you running 6.10 ?
[04:14] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: upgrades can do silly things some times. make sure everything got updated and try installing things from scratch
[04:15] <john__> They need to get like, better application installation support
[04:15] <lordhelmet> (apache and php that is)
[04:15] <PMantis> Does anyone know where usleep is? apt-cache can't find it... is there a replacment?
[04:15] <Netham45> hey
[04:15] <Netham45> I could just use internet explorer
[04:15] <john__> There's like 50 steps just to install NTFS-3g
[04:15] <DWRZ> Yeah. I reformatted the partition, then edited the fstab to /dev/hda4 /media/hda4 vfat user,auto.fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:15] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: so "purge" apache2 and php5 packages, then install again?
[04:15] <Pelo> balzac,  shouldn't make a difference to the update
[04:15] <mattyv> levander: I think the herd name is specific to the release, ie. with dapper drake thet were flight cd's. This time it's a herd of Fawn
[04:15] <kingcobra_> bruenig, sorry can tell me how u said to mount a partition again please
[04:15] <Netham45> I have it installed
[04:15] <guideX> i have ie installed too so i can read my hotmail :D
[04:15] <kbrosnan> Netham45: Opera is not based on Netscape code
[04:15] <balzac> ok, i re-enabled them all
[04:15] <DWRZ> it mounts but I still don't have permissions
[04:15] <guideX> but i only use it for that
[04:15] <DWRZ> any ideas?
[04:15] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: yeah
[04:15] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I just don't know what the cause of the segfault is.
[04:15] <balzac> now i re-attempt the upgrade...
[04:15] <Pelo> DWRZ,  sudo chmod  755  /media/...
[04:16] <aburrent> does Ubuntu 6.06LTS still support SMP?
[04:16] <guideX> kbrosnan isn't opera it's own code? not based off anything?
[04:16] <eck> aburrent: yes
[04:16] <Flannel> mobiGeek: you'll need to purge apache2-common to get any of the real config files gone
[04:16] <DWRZ> Pelo: that's secure?
[04:16] <james296> ok for some reason when I insert a audio CD, Banshee doesnt show any text at all in the track fields, yet at the top area with the description and everything, it shows the accurate track data
[04:16] <poningru> guideX: yes
[04:16] <james296> whats wrong here?
[04:16] <kbrosnan> guideX: correct
[04:16] <eck> aburrent: you need the server kernel, i think
[04:16] <balzac> maybe first i'll install the updates
[04:16] <aburrent> eck: do I have to do anything special to get that kernel?
[04:16] <balzac> then go for the upgrade
[04:16] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: you should make sure your packages are up to date. i'm running a newer version of apache and php i'm pretty sure and i'm using 6.10
[04:16] <poningru> kbrosnan: yarr
[04:16] <mobiGeek> Flannel: k, thanks
[04:16] <bruenig> kingcobra_, mount -t filesystem /dev/name /mount/point
[04:16] <Netham45> hmm
[04:16] <Flannel> aburrent, eck, no you don't.
[04:16] <Pelo> DWRZ,  it's just regular permission
[04:16] <eck> aburrent: um, check the output of uname -a
[04:16] <Netham45> where'd I misplace that cable.....
[04:16] <eck> aburrent: i don't know how many processors the desktop kernel has support compiled in for
[04:17] <aburrent> Linux 2.6.15-28-386
[04:17] <james296> is there certain plugins Im missing?
[04:17] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: what version of apache and php are you running?
[04:17] <james296> I JUST did a reinstall on Ubuntu
[04:17] <DWRZ> nothing. still no permissions. :(
[04:17] <balzac> you know what would be cool? if you had an error dialog which would automatically drop a report on paste bin and open up an irc client to #ubuntu
[04:17] <Flannel> aburrent: what processor do you have?  You'll probably want to change to 686 kernel.
[04:17] <aburrent> i have a dual athlon mp box...but for some reason...at some point in the updates...it switch me to a 386 kenerl
[04:17] <eck> Flannel: do you know how many processors the desktop kernel can do?
[04:17] <guideX> anyone have experience running visual studio 2005 under wine/ubuntu6.10
[04:17] <Flannel> aburrent: k7 is what you want then
[04:17] <eck> i'm just curious
[04:17] <rjones> anyone know much about grub?
[04:17] <Fujitsu> eck: I believe it is 8.
[04:18] <Flannel> !anyone | rjones
[04:18] <ubotu> rjones: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:18] <Pelo> balzac,  that would not be cool, the channel would get flooded
[04:18] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: php 5.1.6ubuntu2.3 and apache2 2.0.55ubuntu4
[04:18] <guideX> rjones what do you want to know
[04:18] <Pelo> rjones,  #grub
[04:18] <james296> well?
[04:18] <rjones> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2314746#post2314746 :)
[04:18] <aburrent> Flannel: so I should just select the kernel in the package manager?
[04:18] <balzac> Pelo, suppose there were a special channel for it?
[04:18] <rjones> sorry, first-time caller on this channel :)
[04:18] <Flannel> aburrent: yeah, linux-image-k7
[04:18] <aburrent> Flannel: thanks
[04:18] <Flannel> rjones: is this on feisty?
[04:18] <aburrent> eck: thanks
[04:18] <rjones> Flyep
[04:18] <Flannel> rjones: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support, thanks.
[04:18] <DWRZ> Pelo: I did it, but no permissions :(
[04:18] <Pelo> balzac,  no one would hangout in such a channel
[04:18] <rjones> ok, thanks
[04:19] <james296> I really need help
[04:19] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I run "aptitude upgrade apache2" and it comes back saying nothing to update.
[04:19] <balzac> true
[04:19] <Pelo> DWRZ,  what are you trying to do in that folder ?
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> james296: you actually reinstalled over that issue?
[04:19] <DWRZ> create a folder/copy a file
[04:19] <DWRZ> it says I do not have permissions to write
[04:19] <Pelo> DWRZ, 777
[04:19] <mobiGeek> I'm new to apt, so is there some newer repository or some other command I should be running to upgrade?
[04:19] <DWRZ> ok thanks
[04:19] <james296> haha, yeah, I did...couldnt figure it out and it was buggin the HECK out of me
[04:19] <Netham45> anyone here besides me program on calculators?
[04:19] <james296> but hey, it works now
[04:20] <Pyranix> good evening
[04:20] <Fujitsu> Netham45: What kind of calculators?
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> sounds like you're still having banshee issues
[04:20] <Netham45> Ti Graphing Calculators
[04:20] <Netham45> Im just wonderin
[04:20] <Netham45> g
[04:20] <Fujitsu> Netham45: I have done some in the past.
[04:20] <james296> no no, banshee opens after inserting a CD
[04:20] <Netham45> BASIC or ASM?
[04:20] <Flannel> Netham45: Yes.  But that's a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:20] <DWRZ> Pelo, nothing. It still says I can't write to it. Any idea where I can find a full FAQ on mounting a partition?
[04:20] <james296> NOW theres no text showing in Banshee
[04:20] <james296> lol
[04:20] <james296> for the tracks
[04:21] <Pelo> DWRZ,  man mount
[04:21] <Fujitsu> Netham45: Mostly BASIC, though a little ASM.
[04:21] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I'm new to apt, so is there some newer repository or some other command I should be running to upgrade?
[04:21] <Pelo> DWRZ,  or try the ubuntu wiki
[04:21] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: run 'aptitude update' to update aptitudes package list
[04:21] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: done that a few times.
[04:21] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: then  run 'aptitude dist-upgrade' to upgrade all installed packages to the latest ones
[04:21] <james296> how can I install the LATEST version of it on Edgy?
[04:22] <Netham45> do you have a .deb of the latest?
[04:22] <Pelo> james296,   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[04:22] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: done that, still comes back saying "0No packages will be installed, upgraded or removed"
[04:22] <DWRZ> google just gives me mounting windows ntfs :(
[04:22] <DWRZ> ok
[04:23] <lordhelmet> mobiGeek: interesting...did you get through purge/reinstall and still no dice?
[04:23] <Pyranix> any ideas on how to fix nautilus? U ran an update awhile back and it hosed nautilus, so i upgraded it and now i cant even get a gui up.
[04:23] <kingcobra_> bruenig, thanx
[04:23] <Pyranix> i ran
[04:23] <Netham45> hmm
[04:23] <Netham45> wtf
[04:23] <Netham45> I can't upgrade to the latest kernel.
[04:23] <mobiGeek> lordhelmet: I haven't gone down that road yet.  I'll do apache2 and php5 purge/install now.
[04:24] <james296> that doesnt help me, I want to install the latest official build of Banshee, but I dont know how
[04:24] <Flannel> mobiGeek: this is edgy?
[04:24] <Pelo> Netham45,  you'll get banned for that pluggin
[04:24] <Netham45> Pelo: oops
[04:24] <mobiGeek> Flannel: how can I tell?
[04:24] <Flannel> mobiGeek: What did you install?  lsb_release -a
[04:25] <Pelo> james296, do you have the latest official build of banshee ?
[04:25] <SubMOA> Can i burn a dvd with HD resolution in Ubuntu (one that will work in my DVD player)?
[04:25] <infidel> anyone know about mounting a usb drive with ntfs?
[04:25] <SubMOA> ...I have Elephants Dream and want to burn it in all it's HD goodness
[04:25] <Flannel> !ntfs | infidel
[04:25] <ubotu> infidel: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:25] <mobiGeek> Flannel: 6.06.1 LTS
[04:25] <mobiGeek> Flannel: dapper
[04:25] <balzac> SubMOA, good question
[04:25] <james296> I have version 0.11.1
[04:25] <infidel> Flannel, tried that
[04:25] <Netham45> anyone know a good IRC client?
[04:25] <Pelo> james296,  what format is the install file you have ?
[04:25] <SubMOA> Netham45, i'm on xchat
[04:25] <bogor> SubMOA: did you try k2b
[04:25] <Jaguar> Netham45: X-Chat is nice.
[04:26] <Netham45> I tried xchat
[04:26] <Netham45> didn't really like it
[04:26] <bogor> sorry k3b
[04:26] <james296> it came with Synaptic
[04:26] <SubMOA> bogor, k2b, eh?  Not sure what that is, uno momento and I will google
[04:26] <Netham45> does irssi have a GUI version?
[04:26] <Jaguar> Netham45: What exactly are you looking for in an irc client?
[04:26] <divoxx> hey guys... i'm trying to install ubuntu but it freezes during X initialization, the cursos appears and them it just freezes.... any ideas what could be causing it?
[04:26] <Flannel> Netham45: uh, no?  You could... run irssi in a gnome terminal
[04:26] <cables> Netham45, the whole point of irssi is that it's CLI. Xchat is a good GUI IRC client
[04:26] <Flannel> divoxx: did you check the integrity of the CD?
[04:26] <divoxx> Flannel: yes
[04:27] <divoxx> and it's happening in both ubuntu, and xubuntu
[04:27] <Flannel> mobiGeek: then you're up to date.  no ammount apt-get upgrading will help.  What is the error you get?
[04:27] <divoxx> which is probably some hardware thing ;/
[04:27] <Flannel> divoxx: Try the alternate CD
[04:27] <divoxx> Flannel: what're the differences between them?
[04:27] <Pelo> Netham45,  don't confuse  xchat with xchat-gnome ( the second one is the one that comes default in ubu, it's crap)
[04:27] <Netham45> ok
[04:28] <Netham45> once kbuntu finishes its install, I'll try to get it.
[04:28] <Flannel> divoxx: the alternate CD doesn't have a LiveCD/GUI.  It plops you straight into a textmode installer.
[04:28] <Netham45> XD
[04:28] <Pelo> Netham45,  both are in synaptic,
[04:28] <mobiGeek> Flannel: when I try to start apache2, either by running /etc/init.d/apache2 start  or by running it by hand (/usr/sbin/apache2 -k start) with the PHP mod enabled, I get a segfault.
[04:28] <jrr> is the text-based installer still available (6.10 disc)
[04:28] <Flannel> Netham45: for regular 'xchat', you'll need to enable universe
[04:28] <balzac> Could not calculate the upgrade
[04:28] <balzac> A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug.
[04:28] <Netham45> Pelo: I used apt-get to install kbuntu
[04:28] <balzac> i wish i could get a more specific error message
[04:28] <Netham45> !universe
[04:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:28] <Flannel> jrr: Yes.  On the Alternate CD.    An strace shows that libapache2-mod-php5 just finished being open, read and closed right before the segfault.
[04:28] <Netham45> :)
[04:28] <jrr> even in safe mode, i get garbled graphics
[04:28] <Flannel> balzac: /var/log/apt?
[04:29] <jrr> on my super weird unsupported *nvidia* card
[04:29] <Flannel> jrr: Use the alternate CD to install.
[04:29] <francois> Hi, i want to buy a wireless card for my laptop,  would usb or pcmcia be better?
[04:29] <jrr> downloading now
[04:29] <Pelo> balzac,  look up your error message in  the forum,  there is a good chance you'll find an answer there
[04:29] <mobiGeek> Flannel: I believe it started segfaulting right after upgrading to edgy (the website certainly worked fine right after I installed dapper...I dist-upgraded last week and didn't notice the site was down)
[04:30] <jrr> Flannel: where do i find it?
[04:30] <infidel> Flannel, any other ideals?
[04:30] <jrr> (apparently not at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download)
[04:30] <Flannel> jrr: on the download page.  For edgy, youll have to get past the facade, with "More Installation Options"
[04:30] <balzac> /var/log/dist-upgrade*.log
[04:30] <balzac> that's the log in question
[04:30] <balzac> Pelo, i googled the error message
[04:31] <Flannel> mobiGeek: Well, removing (with purge) of apache and php should work.  Just make sure you get all the components
[04:31] <Flannel> mobiGeek: obviously, that means backup your sites and stuff
[04:31] <Pyranix> flannel or pelo, when either of you have a moment, i need some help.
[04:31] <Flannel> mobiGeek: the config files,not /var/www
[04:31] <divoxx> Flannel: one quick question... i have other partitions i'd like to save, does the alternate cd gives me the choice of which partition to install ?
[04:31] <jrr> Flannel: found it, thanks
[04:31] <vox754> Flannel, I'm confused with the whole xchat and xchat-gnome thing, I think I have installed xchat manually, and xchat-gnome was never installed in the first place, are you sure the latter is not just a frontend, please read "aptitude show xchat" and "aptitude show xchat-gnome" and tell men what you think
[04:31] <Pelo> Pyranix,   I don't play guess the problem  as your question and wait for someone to help out
[04:31] <Death_Sargent> Can someone help me unblock my udb ports
[04:31] <Flannel> divoxx: the alternate CD gives you more choices.
[04:32] <mobiGeek> Flannel: thanks
[04:32] <Pyranix> any ideas on how to fix nautilus? i ran an update awhile back and it hosed nautilus, so i upgraded it and now i cant even get a gui up.
[04:32] <Death_Sargent> i was using firestarter and now i can't file share
[04:32] <Flannel> divoxx: the alternate CD is the tried and true installer of old.  with LVM support, and plnty other
[04:32] <Pelo> vox754,   just open up synaptic and search for xchat,  you'll see which is installed
[04:32] <Death_Sargent> all udb ports have nat blocking
[04:32] <Death_Sargent> udp
[04:32] <francois> Hi, i want to buy a wireless card for my laptop,  would usb or pcmcia be better?
[04:32] <Flannel> Pyranix: A gui?  As in gnome? or just a nautilus window?  What errors do you get?
[04:32] <Pelo> Pyranix,  sudo apt-get reinstall nautilus
[04:33] <Pyranix> flannel:gnome comes up but nautilus is non exsistant...
[04:33] <vox754> Pelo, I use xchat, from the aptitude description... so why do people say that xchat-gnome is crap?
[04:33] <Death_Sargent> thats why you are reinstalling it
[04:33] <Pelo> francois,   go and see user comments on wireless cards in the forum
[04:33] <Pyranix> pelo: tried that now i am here
[04:33] <Death_Sargent> does someone know how i can remove all udp blocks from my iptables
[04:33] <francois> Pelo: thanks, its just that i don't know anything about laptops :S
[04:34] <Pelo> vox754,  I said it was crap .  it's just a different gui then xchat,  and I don't like it
[04:34] <darkholme> hi everybody ...
[04:34] <Flannel> Pyranix: yeah, try reinstalling nautilus (and other associated files, like perhaps nautilus-data and stuff), if you had an error message, You'd probably be able to pinpoint, but right now we're shotgun debugging
[04:34] <Pelo> Pyranix,  what exactly is the problem ?
[04:34] <Death_Sargent> PLEASE i need to unblock udp
[04:35] <Netham45> Death_Sargent: did you google it?
[04:35] <hateyla> thanks for all peoples.. takecare all gudbye.
[04:35] <Netham45> o.o
[04:35] <Netham45> whoa
[04:35] <Netham45> I have 2 apt-gets running at the same thime
[04:35] <Netham45> time*
[04:35] <Death_Sargent> no i kinda come here first and ask for a bit before i google stuff
[04:35] <Netham45> Death_Sargent: try googling it.
[04:35] <darkholme> please please....I need you help...I have been searching like 3 weeks in the web....for the solution of my problem and no one knows it:
[04:36] <Death_Sargent> aight but im gona be back if i don't find anything
[04:36] <Netham45> darkholme:  what's your problem?
[04:36] <Pelo> Death_Sargent,  if this is for torrent purposes,  there are no active udp trackers around so it's not realy an issue
[04:36] <aSt3raL> y0
[04:37] <Pyranix> Flannel. i did some upgrading and came back i got an error saying nautilus failed to start. i re installed it via synaptic. it dumped some of my python libs and fell back on the native c. when i rebooted and login i get just a brown background. cant even pull up a terminal.
[04:37] <darkholme> I have a laptop xps m1710 and i have been trying to install a lot of different distros of linux...but it is not recognizing the installation cd!!! it's just going above it!! I mean bypassing it and not showing anything...the problem is not the cd because it runs ok in other computers and is not the boot order of the bios because I can install ubuntu dapper but not ubuntu edgy!
[04:37] <wheels3572> how do you tell what version of ubuntu your running?
[04:37] <zorplex> Are you sure you have inserted it right side up? jkjk :p
[04:37] <Pyranix> <--- not good with linux commandline
[04:37] <mobiGeek> Flannel: I just purged and reinstalled... I get the exact same segfault
[04:37] <darkholme> so....do you know what's the difference between the installation of dapper and edgy?
[04:37] <voltagex> for zsh, where would I put http://www.aperiodic.net/phil/prompt/prompt.txt ?
[04:38] <darkholme> why my computer is not running the setup of edgy???:S
[04:38] <Pelo> darkholme,  try the alternate install cd,  it's command line
[04:38] <Netham45> darkholme: why don't you install dapper, then do an update-manager -d ???
[04:38] <zorplex> is it possible to force a command line install from a live cd?
[04:38] <Pelo> Pyranix,   boot in safe mode ( or whatever it is ) and  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[04:39] <Steve-O> MOUNTING AND UNMOUNTING USB:  Can anyone tell me how to mount and unmount a USB pen drive?  How do I know if it's mounted or not?  What is the point of mounting it if I can read it without doing that?
[04:39] <darkholme> I tried it also....but it does the same!
[04:39] <Pyranix> pelo: will try.
[04:39] <darkholme> I did that also...
[04:39] <darkholme> but it takes hours to update
[04:39] <Pelo> Steve-O,  it should auto mount when you plug it in ,  mount point is /media/somethng
[04:40] <darkholme> now i have edgy but i would like to reinstall it because it's having troubles
[04:40] <voltagex> zorplex: should be, but I almost always use the server CD so I can't remember
[04:40] <darkholme> but i don't want it to take hours again!
[04:40] <Steve-O> Is that exactly what I type in the terminal?
[04:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> what are the cmds in terminal to give eth0 and additional gateway addy?
[04:40] <Pelo> darkholme,  could be a borked cd, checkout the ubuntu site, it has a section on instalation issues
[04:41] <NETWizz> I have a problem with Beryl on my laptop.  Please advise
[04:41] <dj_killa> could someone please read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343239 and tell me whether its possible to solve this or not? I've been trying to solve this for more than 3 months now unsuccessfully
[04:42] <Pelo> Steve-O,   in the terminal  try       cd /media          then type        ls     to see what the dir contains
[04:42] <Netham45> darkholme: put the CD in another computer and do an integrity check.
[04:42] <darkholme> no way..the cd is working fine in other computers
[04:42] <Netham45> is it installing fine?
[04:42] <darkholme> yes
[04:42] <darkholme> is installing perfectly....
[04:43] <Steve-O> I didn't put the pen drive in yet.  I should do that before typing in the command, right?
[04:43] <Netham45> darkholme: how old is the computer your tring to install it on?
[04:43] <Pelo> Steve-O,   how would you like a virtual slap upside the head ?
[04:43] <darkholme> that's why I would like to know the difference between the installation of dapper and edgy because dapper installs ok
[04:43] <Steve-O> I deserve it
[04:43] <darkholme> the computer is new
[04:43] <darkholme> is a XPS M1710
[04:43] <darkholme> Dell
[04:44] <Pelo> Steve-O,  plug in your pen drive and see if it mounts,  it should appear on your desktop
[04:44] <kingcobra> why does sudo gedit command not work for me anymore
[04:44] <Steve-O> Does that come with free pr0n?
[04:44] <slap_me> hmm
[04:44] <slap_me> how do i go about uninstalling ubunut, and getting all that space back...on a tri boot partitioned hard?
[04:44] <slap_me> hard drive*
[04:45] <Netham45> bbl
[04:45] <balzac> i'm in package hell
[04:45] <Pelo> darkholme,  you can try looking up the laptop model in the forum  to see if there are any issues reported
[04:45] <slap_me> ubuntu* too
[04:45] <darkholme> yes I have done that also..
[04:45] <balzac> i'm probably going to just back up my files and re-install like i've done with windows 100 times
[04:45] <Pelo> slap_me,  just repartion it
[04:45] <slap_me> mm?
[04:45] <Steve-O> I see an icon that says USB 2.0 flash disk
[04:45] <tupa> does anybody knows what this error in dmesg means?
[04:45] <darkholme> it doesnt say anything about edgy
[04:45] <tupa> APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[04:45] <darkholme> in this machine
[04:45] <tupa> I have a P4 HyperThreading 3.0 GHz and a pcchips mobo
[04:45] <Pelo> Steve-O,  congradulations your usb drive is mounted
[04:46] <infidel> /j #linuxhelp
[04:46] <Steve-O> I must be an expert now.
[04:47] <mobiGeek> Flannel: what version of apache2 do you have installed right now?
[04:48] <Pyranix> pelo: no go. E: unknown operation ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <Sukarn> anyone? please? could someone please read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343239 and tell me whether its possible to solve this or not? I've been trying to solve this for more than 3 months now unsuccessfully
[04:48] <dumezil_> anyone know about scim chinese input and how to select which chinese font to use?
[04:49] <Pelo> Pyranix,   just backup your /home/user  folder and re-install ubuntu from scratch,  ( you'd have been done by now )
[04:49] <sirwilliam> i have a turion64....if i download amd64 will i still be able to get flash, w32codecs, etc. to work easily??
[04:49] <void^> sirwilliam: no.
[04:49] <Fujitsu> sirwilliam: Just use the i386 version, otherwise you'll have a lot of trouble.
[04:49] <darkholme> thanks for all I have to leave
[04:49] <darkholme> bye!
[04:49] <sirwilliam> kk
[04:49] <sirwilliam> that's what i thought
[04:50] <voltagex> I'm using zsh on ubuntu, and I'm getting zsh: command not found: prompt
[04:50] <void^> flash works on amd64 with nspluginwrapper, bit of a pain to make it work right though
[04:50] <tbuss> need help installing ubuntu on external firewire hdd
[04:50] <zorplex> I am attempting to install 6.10 using a live CD but the desktop freezes shortly after displaying the background. The 6.06 installs just fine. The vid card is an Geforce 7800 GT, any ideas?
[04:50] <nixnoob1> anyone in here ever use opensuse?
[04:50] <Pyranix> pelo: i could have done that, however, i am still quite new to linux and i would like to learn from my mistakes so that i can fix them without reinstall.
[04:51] <CaptainMorgan> zorplex, what background? the desktop? or the startup background with the Ubuntu logo ?
[04:51] <tbuss> can i install ubuntu on a external firewire hdd without affecting my current windows partions?
[04:51] <zorplex> desktop
[04:51] <mobiGeek> morning Cap'n !
[04:51] <CaptainMorgan> mobiGeek, !
[04:52] <Pelo> Pyranix,  that,s the nice thing about linux,  when you mess up you reinstall and you don't loos youre config and stuff
[04:52] <zorplex> gnome loads but shortly after the background displays it tears and the desktop freezes save for the mouse
[04:52] <thugren> zorplex Yea... I had the same problem... Just Give up and install the x86 ver
[04:52] <Pelo> Pyranix,  provided that you back up yoru home folder or mount it to a different partition
[04:52] <Spartacus> If I'm running ubuntu Edgy, is there a terminal command I can use to install qt 4.2.3 instead of downloading the file?
[04:52] <Flannel> mobiGeek: packages.ubuntu.com and you can get version information.  But, the same that you had.
[04:52] <Netham45|Shower> holy crap, KDE has ALOT of dependencies
[04:52] <Netham45|Shower> ok
[04:52] <Netham45|Shower> bbl
[04:52] <zorplex> It isn't the x64 distro
[04:52] <mobiGeek> Flannel: ah, okay, lordhelmet indicated he had newer versions.
[04:52] <Flannel> mobiGeek: He must be on Edgy
[04:52] <Pelo> Netham45|Shower,  for heaven sakes put on some clothes
[04:53] <Pyranix> pelo: how would i restore the back up after reinstall?
[04:53] <mobiGeek> so is it hard to go to edgy?  Is it smart?
[04:53] <tbuss> is it hard to install ubuntu on a external firewire hdd
[04:53] <Pelo> Pyranix,   I was thinking just coying home folder back
[04:54] <Steve-O> It is a desktop icon.  When I double click on it.  I don't see any icon representing the USB drive.  I did it before, but I can't remember.  Can you help me, Pelo?  I only see [/ - File Browser]  with a bunch of folders in it.
[04:54] <zorplex> iirc 6.10 is distributed with an OS Nvidia driver, no? Is there a way to disable it?
[04:54] <Pelo> Pyranix,  but seriously,  mounting your home folder on a seperate partition is the best
[04:54] <Sukarn> zorplex: happened to me once. i fixed it by doing ctrl+alt+f1, and "killall esd" in the terminal there, then ctrl+alt+f7
[04:54] <zorplex> @ Sukarn kk I'll try it
[04:54] <vox754> Sukarn, so you were having problems with ethernet connection? how weird!
[04:54] <Sukarn> very very weir
[04:55] <Sukarn> weird*
[04:55] <Pelo> Steve-O,  that would be the content of your usb drive ,  just change the icon from the properties ( probably just a theme issue)
[04:55] <mobiGeek> Flannel: so is it hard to go to edgy from dapper?  Is it smart?
[04:55] <tbuss> is grub necessary for ubuntu install on external hdd
[04:55] <thugren> zorplex, I had the same problem. With that today, I What do you have for hardware..
[04:55] <Sukarn> and now i've had a shiny new ubuntu 6.06 install with nothing extra on it cause i don't have a working ethernet connection on it for 4 months
[04:55] <Pyranix> pelo: ok i guess ill have to try that
[04:56] <Steve-O> Is there a better way?  I think that a terminal command may give a more clear answer.
[04:56] <Flannel> Spartacus: Give the devs a bit of time, and you'll have the fixes in edgy.  The release was only four days ago
[04:56] <Pyranix> pelo: thanks.
[04:56] <Pelo> Pyranix,  I made a 10 gig partition for ubuntu , a 2 gig part for the swap and I left the rest for the home folder , works very nicely for me
[04:56] <tbuss> any suggestions on how to install ubuntu to external firewire hdd
[04:56] <zorplex> I am booting the disc again, I am attempting an install on a machine with 1GB DDR, Athlon64 3800+, Geforce 7800 GT
[04:57] <Flannel> mobiGeek: The dapper update manager is pretty good, yeah.  But, Im still on dapper, so I don't know firsthand
[04:57] <Flannel> !install | tbuss
[04:57] <ubotu> tbuss: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:57] <Pelo> Steve-O,  what exactly do you expect to happen when you plug your usb pen drive in ?
[04:57] <Steve-O> To be able to see what's on the drive; I did it before.
[04:57] <balzac> I guess i better not mess around with my system until i back my sh!t up
[04:57] <Flannel> !backup | balzac
[04:57] <ubotu> balzac: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:57] <Pelo> Steve-O,  and you don't now ?
[04:57] <tbuss> at least you didnt tell me to google it...............
[04:58] <balzac> then i'll wipe it clean and reinstall
[04:58] <balzac> i can't handle all these dependencies
[04:58] <tbuss> so what kind of help can i find here
[04:58] <delrey> I desperately need help with wireless on Ubuntu. Could someone please help me out? I've done the proper research, and I'd consider myself pretty experienced with Linux and wireless in general, but I really can't figure this out.
[04:58] <Steve-O> I was using somebody else's computer when I did it.
[04:58] <Pelo> tbuss,  help you ask questions for
[04:58] <delrey> I've got a wireless card to the point where iwconfig wlan0 list properly determines all the nearby ESSIDs
[04:58] <akirksey> hey does anyone know if there is a way to make a Texas Instruments SD Card reader work in ubuntu without building a new kernal from the 2.17-cr1
[04:58] <delrey> But when I dhclient wlan0 it doesn't get an IP.
[04:59] <linux_> hi
[04:59] <delrey> Can anyone help me out? I'm not really sure how to fix this.
[04:59] <akirksey> delray are you using a broadcom chipset?
[04:59] <Pelo> Steve-O,  when you plug the usb drive in , you get an icon on the desktop , just double click it and you get the content of your usb drive displayed ,
[04:59] <delrey> delrey: No, it's a Linksys WMP111v2
[04:59] <Pelo> !wireless | delrey
[04:59] <ubotu> delrey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:59] <linux_> yes
[04:59] <thugren> zorplex, I only got up to the logo when it goes after bootin to the set. It kept hang on the Graphics card.
[05:00] <tbuss> im not trying to be negative. i have read a lot of documentatio, im just confused at this point. i dont have the experience to deciede what pertains and what does not
[05:00] <linux_> you are using ubuntu?
[05:00] <delrey> Er, akirksey.
[05:00] <akirksey> well bcmwl5 drivers were necessary for a linksys card i purchased a few weeks ago
[05:00] <Steve-O> I see a whole bunch of folders that I think are executable files?  Like bin, boot cd rom, dev, etc.
[05:00] <delrey> akirksey: This is an old PCI card
[05:00] <mobiGeek> Flannel: update-manager appears to be needing X....I'm running on a headless server.  Is there a better way to upgrade to Edgy?
[05:00] <Pelo> tbuss,  if you have an ubuntu related problem just ask the question and we will try and help
[05:00] <linux_> why when i using wine it is slow and i cant click anything
[05:01] <delrey> I really need help with this please help me.
[05:01] <Voytek> Hi everyone. I just installed OpenOffice 2.1 and the SDK 2.1 on Edgy Eft, and was wondering -- I did both using dpkg -i and now I need to know the directories where they were installed.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[05:02] <delrey> seriously, i need help, please help me out
[05:02] <zorplex> don't we all
[05:02] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, way too slow ;)
[05:02] <tbuss> Pelo: it's not really a problem, im just trying to figure out what i need to do so i can install ubuntu on a external firewire hdd, i dont want to create a boot floppy with grub on, and my existing windows partitions need to go unaffected
[05:02] <delrey> well i state my issues already, i think it's enough to at least help me out
[05:02] <Hobbsee> so i see
[05:02] <Hobbsee> what a moron
[05:03] <Flannel> tbuss: You'd need a boot floppy, or some other form of boot media
[05:03] <Sukarn> I seriously do, I can't use my network in Ubuntu... thats a major problem for me
[05:03] <akirksey> do you have a wireless card entry under system>administration>networking
[05:03] <void^> tbuss: depends on your bios i guess
[05:03] <delrey> akirksey: yes, look i know the wireless card works, otherwise iwconfig wlan0 wouldn't work
[05:03] <delrey> akirksey: what doesn't make sense is why dhclient wlan0 gives me <IP_ADDRESS> on a 172.16.1.x network
[05:03] <Pelo> delrey,
[05:03] <delrey> Pelo: what?
[05:04] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:04] <tbuss> Flannel: how will ubuntu load from external hdd, do i install grub on the master boot record on windows
[05:04] <Pelo> delrey, never mind, it was a typo
[05:04] <tbuss> void: im not sure if my bios will boot a firewire device
[05:04] <void^> tbuss: if your bios can't detect the firewire disk grub alone on ide/sata won't even help
[05:05] <mikejanssen> how do i go about uninstalling ubuntu on a tri-boot system? i never use it, and i wanna alocate that space to xp for my music collection
[05:05] <mobiGeek> Flannel: update-manager appears to be needing X....I'm running on a headless server.  Is there a better way to upgrade to Edgy?
[05:05] <zorplex> So I booted back into the 6.10 live CD and everything except the mouse has frozen. ctrl+alt+f1 or f7 has no effect
[05:05] <Steve-O> Floppy 1, Floppy Drive, CD-RW Drive, CD-RW/DVD+-Drive: DVD Video Recording, and Filesystem.
[05:05] <void^> tbuss: connect a random firewire hd, see if you can bring up some sort of boot device selection and if it's offered there
[05:05] <levander> I'm trying to get my onboard NIC to work.  I've had it set up so that a PCI NIC has been working, but I wanna try again to get the onboard NIC working.  The onboard NIC is being recognized, but I think it's eth1, and the PCI NIC is eth0.  I've removed the kernel module that is acting as a driver for the PCI eth0 NIC.  But, when I "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says "device not found".
[05:05] <zorplex> I am also having to use "safe video mode" or w/e in order to even get to view the desktop before it freezes
[05:05] <levander> I'm wondering if it's looking for eth0 and not eth1?
[05:05] <levander> Is there any way to tell it to look for eth1?
[05:05] <levander> Or, swtich eth0 and eth1 easily?
[05:05] <Flannel> mobiGeek: that's correct
[05:05] <Flannel> !upgrade | mobiGeek
[05:05] <ubotu> mobiGeek: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:05] <mattyv> mikejanssen: delete the partition, then extend the xp one into the free space
[05:06] <ifree> hello, i have a problem after manual installing the lastest Nvidia driver 9755...
[05:06] <akirksey> mikejanssen: load the live cd run gnome partition manager and wipe the ext3 file system. although I'm not entirely sure you can expand a fat32 file system which windows is on, but you might be able to make another mountable drive with the partition manager to allocate space for keeping that information you want
[05:06] <tbuss> void^: if this is the case i can install ubuntu on the external and boot both os's
[05:06] <xlsty>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[05:06] <ifree> the graphical interface refuse to start
[05:06] <john___> Anyone know how I can configure my Touchpad?
[05:06] <Flannel> !synaptics | john___
[05:06] <ubotu> john___: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[05:06] <mikejanssen> but what about the grub menu
[05:06] <akirksey> oh make sure the ext3 file system is the part of the parition that is actually part you want to remove
[05:06] <mobiGeek> Flannel: yeah...so the part about NOT RECOMMENDED when upgrading via apt-get leaves me a bit ...uh...frightened.
[05:06] <akirksey> that's beyond me.
[05:06] <Netham45|Shower> back
[05:06] <mikejanssen> mattyv, what about the grub menu, wont my boot menu be jacked up?
[05:07] <john___> Where do I type !synaptics, flannel?
[05:07] <ifree> API mismatch: the Nvidia Kernel modules has the version 1.0-7*** but the X module has the version 1.0-955
[05:07] <mattyv> mikejanssen: can't remember exatly, but you'll just need the xp disk do do a mbr repair
[05:07] <Flannel> mobiGeek: that's for desktop users, because that *used* to be the method.  And it doesn't really count for us non-GUI people either. Update-manager makes sure to reinstall the metapackages (ubuntu-desktop, etc) before the upgrade
[05:07] <mikejanssen> i dont have a full xp disk
[05:07] <mikejanssen> just restore disc
[05:07] <Flannel> john___: you don't.  Read the link ubotu gave you
[05:07] <john___> Oh
[05:07] <Madpilot> Netham45, please don't nickspam. Use your IRC client's /away function if you're afk...
[05:07] <john___> OKay.
[05:07] <mikejanssen> and, the other menu is taken up from vista bootmenu
[05:08] <mobiGeek> Flannel: so you are saying, go ahead with the apt-get approach?
[05:08] <Flannel> mobiGeek: that's correct.
[05:08] <mobiGeek> Flannel: thank you sir, you've been a big help.
[05:08] <voltagex> any zsh users here?
[05:09] <voltagex> does prompt get installed when you install the zsh package?
[05:09] <DWRZ> hello... i am trying to install banshee following this guide (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Banshee_and_plugins) but when I get to "sudo apt-get build-dep banshee", I get the following error: Reading package lists... Done
[05:09] <DWRZ> Building dependency tree
[05:09] <DWRZ> Reading state information... Done
[05:09] <DWRZ> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/xgl.compiz.info_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:09] <mattyv> mikejanssen: does that let you get into the recover console?
[05:09] <john___> Is there a shortcut of keys to open the terminal?
[05:09] <DWRZ> I have _absolutely no idea_ as to what this is... any ideas?
[05:10] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi, i wanted to try aiglx + beryl + ati, but when i run beryl-manager and select beryl as windows manager the X die, and just before it crash i got http://pastebin.ca/399665 , ubuntu 6.10 + open source driver "radeon", could someone help me or if this is not the place to ask tall me where do i need to ask?
[05:10] <DWRZ> I'm not even using XGL or Compiz...
[05:10] <mobiGeek> Flannel: I guess I can skip the "apt-get ubuntu-desktop" that they say has to be done (step #2) ?
[05:10] <levander> I'm wanting to enable eth1 instead of eth0, but when I "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" I think it's looking for eth0.  Is there a way to tell it to look for eth1?
[05:10] <mattyv> mikejanssen: the vista disk can probably do the mbr thing as well
[05:10] <kalin> what does it mean when apt-get update states that 'The following packages have been kept back'?
[05:10] <Flannel> mobiGeek: right.
[05:11] <Centaur5> Does Ubuntu ever clean up old kernels when you update?
[05:11] <blanky> hey guys, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start doesn't return anything and it's not running from the looks of ps aux | grep httpd
[05:11] <blanky> what should I do?
[05:11] <mikejanssen> mmm
[05:11] <levander> kalin: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[05:11] <Voytek> Can anyone please let me know how I can check where DPKG installed a package?
[05:11] <mikejanssen> recover cd lets me do nothing...just goes straight to restore menu
[05:11] <maddog39> centaur: no, it makes backups of them and keeps them so u can revert to an old one if need be
[05:11] <zorplex> think I may have found an answer, 7800 GT is apparently incompattible with the default nvidia driver, as I suspected, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2268952 seems to have a workaround
[05:11] <Steve-O> Can anybody help me with my USB?  I am trying to read the contents and I also want to be able to remove it safely.
[05:11] <Flannel> blanky: httpd wouldn't be listed in ps aux
[05:11] <blanky> Flannel: where, then?
[05:11] <Flannel> blanky: try apache2
[05:12] <blanky> Flannel: ps aux | grep apache2? same thing
[05:12] <Voytek> Steve-O -- what's the problem, exactly? Is it detecting it at all?
[05:12] <DWRZ> anybody?
[05:12] <blanky> Flannel: same thing :(
[05:12] <Flannel> blanky: what errors do you get then?  Check your log
[05:12] <Netham45> http://www.case-mod.com/aerocool-extremengine-extreme-engine-case-with-250mm-fan-black-p-1844.html *sparkle* *sparkle*
[05:12] <blanky> Flannel: wheres my log ?
[05:12] <acu> I am in KDE and I want to delete few folders from an external HD connected trough USB - when I click the folder and press DELETE I got a message : COULD NOT WRITE ...... Disk is full - anyone can help me  why is that ?
[05:12] <kalin> levander, thanks, that will help
[05:12] <Flannel> blanky: /var/log/
[05:12] <blanky> thanks Flannel
[05:12] <voltagex> are there any issues reported for the zsh package at the moment? It's not installing the prompt utility
[05:12] <blanky> Flannel: but what file in there?
[05:13] <levander> kalin: are you getting that for the kernel after having installed the nvidia driver?
[05:13] <Voytek> acu - might be the file system. Is it running NTFS or FAT / FAT32 or EXT3?
[05:13] <john___> Damn, they really need to make Synaptics easier...
[05:13] <john___> There are like, 30 steps...
[05:13] <blanky> nevermind i got it
[05:13] <ifree> hello, i have a problem after manual installing the lastest Nvidia driver 9755...
[05:13] <ifree> the graphical interface refuse to start
[05:13] <ifree> API mismatch: the Nvidia Kernel modules has the version 1.0-7*** but the X module has the version 1.0-955
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | john___
[05:13] <ubotu> john___: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:13] <acu> VoytekL is a FAT32
[05:13] <john___> Language?
[05:13] <mattyv> mikejanssen: Instructions for getting into vista recovery console, you'll seed the command prompt for fixmbr...See the below the screenshot...http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=78082
[05:13] <mattyv> *need
[05:13] <Sukarn> ifree:reboot your computer
[05:13] <blanky> Flannel: there's nothing in either /var/log/apache2/access.log or error.log
[05:13] <john___> Since when is "damn" a horrible word...
[05:13] <Voytek> acu - try doing it through terminal... using "sudo".
[05:14] <levander> john___: I know, it's wierd.  They consider damn profanity in here.
[05:14] <john___> Hehe
[05:14] <john___> Crazy
[05:14] <ifree> Sukarn: i did it multiple times alr
[05:14] <levander> It's like Romper Room rules
[05:14] <ifree> same error msg
[05:14] <john___> lol
[05:14] <vox754> !ask > kingcobra
[05:14] <mattyv> The ubuntu christian edition guys might have complained
[05:14] <Centaur5> maddog39: Are there any programs or things that can be done to clean up packages that aren't needed or being used?
[05:14] <ardchoille> levander , john___ You don't have to stay here if you don't like following the rules.
[05:14] <Steve-O> Kurwa!  I really don't know.  I see an icon on the desktop that says, USB Flash Disk, and when I click on it.  I see a [/ - File browser]  and it's contents are bin, root, boot CD Rom, etc.
[05:15] <levander> yes sir ardchoille
[05:15] <Voytek> acu --- try sudo rm -r <your folder path> if it's protected on your USB
[05:15] <Sukarn> ifree: sorry, can't help then. haven't been able to use linux in 4 months cause of my damn ethernet not working in it
[05:15] <Voytek> (assuming you were doing it otherwise before)
[05:15] <maddog39> centaur: you can run: sudo apt-get clean and sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:15] <maddog39> to do that
[05:15] <Flannel> blanky: do you have any other http daemons on this computer?  (or did you at one point?)
[05:15] <enderxim> I just tried upgrading to feisty, and when I checked my orphaned packages, I found a ton of them. Is this typical when upgrading? Would it be different had I installed from a cd? Or did I just upgrade using a poor method (editing sources.list and changing edgy to feisty)? It was running fine but I am kinda anal about keeping my system clean and orphan is something I depend on to do that.
[05:15] <Flannel> enderxim: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[05:16] <ifree> thanks though... i think i just lay here and wait + random spamming of my problem
[05:16] <Centaur5> maddog39: Okay, that helps.  Thanks for the info!
[05:16] <DWRZ> hello... i am trying to install banshee following this guide (http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Banshee_and_plugins) but when I get to "sudo apt-get build-dep banshee", I get the following error:
[05:16] <DWRZ> Reading package lists... Done
[05:16] <DWRZ> Building dependency tree
[05:16] <DWRZ> Reading state information... Done
[05:16] <DWRZ> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/xgl.compiz.info_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:16] <Flannel> enderxim: but yes, manually changing sources list is not recommended.
[05:16] <enderxim> Flannel: Thank you, sorry. :-)
[05:16] <blanky> Flannel: yes I did at one point, my friend accidentally compiled from source. I killedall httpd instances and transfered everything to the apache2 installed by apt, but now I Can't start it, like I said earlier
[05:16] <maddog39> centaur: no problem
[05:16] <DWRZ> Any ideas? :(
[05:16] <enderxim> Flannel: Ah, thanks again.
[05:16] <Flannel> blanky: So, you're sure that it's not running currently?
[05:16] <blanky> nevermind Flannel I got it with sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[05:16] <zorplex> gah, you think there would be some heads up on the 7800 GT compatability issue with the default nv driver >: /
[05:16] <john___> Was there ever a Touchpad options built into Ubuntu?
[05:16] <eeyore_> can somebody tell me if there is a way to set flac compression to -8 using sound juicer?
[05:17] <thechris> I am a fan of consistency in my desktop.  Is there any gtk option to allow the gtk save dialogs to open in "advanced mode" by default?
[05:17] <john___> I can swear I used it last time I tried Ubuntu
[05:17] <anolis_> hello, i have a question about data manipulation
[05:17] <anolis_> its slightly amusing actually
[05:17] <montyp> anolis_, we'll be the judge of that
[05:17] <Flannel> thechris: check gconf
[05:18] <anolis_> i have calculated that in the game second life the maximum ammount of data that can be placed into a notecard is about 66kilobytes
[05:18] <Flannel> anolis_: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place, not here.
[05:18] <anolis_> the amount of notecards required to send a cd in this method would be around 10700
[05:18] <thechris> Flannel: from what i can tell, gconf is like the windows registry -- gret if you know the exact name of what you want, no so good otherwise
[05:18] <anolis_> no i havent told you my question
[05:18] <Steve-O> Any ideas, Voytek?
[05:19] <anolis_> how would i split an iso image into 10700 individual files?
[05:19] <Flannel> thechris: well, not as convoluted.  Things are pretty good at being where you think they ought to be.
[05:19] <ardchoille> thechris: I believe that depends on which widget was used when the devs wrote the app. I recenly found a pygtk app that had the old open/save dialog, but it used a .glade file. I opened that file in glade designer, switches the old widget for the new one, saved it and the app now uses the new open/save dialog.
[05:20] <Wo|f> anolis_ Not sure what your question has to do with Ubuntu ... you might Google for ways to split up ISO files into mutli-part binary archives. RAR is one option
[05:20] <thechris> Flannel: in the past i was unable to find such an option.  does one now exist?
[05:20] <acu> Voytek: I just found that my primary HD is full (how the heck I manage that?)
[05:20] <Flannel> thechris: I have no idea.
[05:20] <mattyv> zorplex: the default nv driver does its best, but it's only guessing how to work, the devs don't have access to any of the hardware specs
[05:20] <anolis_> ok, thanks
[05:20] <eeyore_> does anybody know if there is a way to set flac compression to -8 in sound juicer because it uses -5 by default it seems?
[05:20] <jrib> anolis_: man split
[05:20] <thechris> archangelpetro: i don't particularly like the
[05:20] <anolis_> alright awesome
[05:21] <thechris> archangelpetro: i don't particularly like the new dialog, i would like it better if it was a single dialog that only opened in "advanced mode"
[05:21] <montyp> anolis_, hmm i think mkisofs will only split into pre-defined sizes, and the program split probably won't work on an iso .. so ...
[05:22] <ardchoille> thechris: I agree with you :)
[05:22] <mattyv> eeyore_: try going to edit > prefs > format > edit profiles, choose the flac profile and edit it
[05:22] <levander> Where is the IP address stored on my computer?
[05:23] <montyp> levander, if you are directly connected to the net, do "ifconfig" in terminal
[05:23] <eeyore_> mattyv: the setting don't make sense. there is no option to set command line for the flac encoder
[05:23] <levander> montyp: I want to know what file it's stored in.
[05:23] <thechris> ardchoille: that is comforting, but not particularly helpful.
[05:23] <eeyore_> mattyv: there's just a bunch of gstreamer pipes of which i know nothing
[05:24] <delrey> Why would dhclient wlan0 produce No DHCPOFFERS received even when iwconfig wlan0 shows that it is connected to the AP
[05:24] <montyp> levander, it's not stored in a file, it is usually dynamically assigned to you when you connect to your ISP
[05:24] <Sukarn> well, I'm off now, if anyone can help, please reply to the topic http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343239
[05:24] <mattyv> eeyore_: I don't have flac installed and I've never changed profiles before, that's the only suggestion I have for now...although I'll have a peek at gconf
[05:24] <Netham45> ifconfig
[05:24] <Netham45> type that at a terminal
[05:24] <levander> montyp: No, I'm on a LAN connected to the internet.  I have a private static IP address on this network.
[05:25] <montyp> levander, well then /etc/network/interfaces
[05:25] <levander> thanks
[05:25] <eeyore_> mattyv: thanks
[05:25] <eeyore_> mattyv: i'll figure it out eventually
[05:25] <Netham45> am I the only one who finds it ironic that the right mouse button wore out first on my mouse?
[05:26] <Madpilot> mattyv, Ubuntu has flac support by default. You don't have to install anything, at least for every media player I've ever used in Ubuntu
[05:26] <montyp> when is the Fiestmeister official release date?
[05:26] <jrib> montyp: 19th of april is scheduled
[05:27] <montyp> jrib, ok thanks
[05:27] <Netham45> oh?
[05:27] <Netham45> I thought it was early april(3rd or 4th)
[05:27] <mattyv> Madpilot: Ah so it does, just missed it in Sound Juicer
[05:27] <Netham45> oh
[05:27] <Netham45> :(
[05:27] <eeyore_> the problem is that sound juicer doesn't use the flac encoder
[05:27] <Madpilot> mattyv, yeah, SJ will rip to flac as one of it's two default options
[05:28] <eeyore_> but gstreamer's something or other
[05:28] <eeyore_> but it's not the max compression
[05:28] <eeyore_> and it just bothers me
[05:28] <eeyore_> =)
[05:28] <Priest-of-Psi> anyone here use svn?
[05:28] <eeyore_> Priest-of-Psi: i do a little bit
[05:28] <Netham45> if I upgrade to feisty, is it possible to downgrade?
[05:29] <jrib> Netham45: no
[05:29] <jrib> not without a reinstall
[05:29] <Netham45> oh
[05:29] <eeyore_> Netham45: be patient for another 4 weeks or so
[05:29] <Netham45> ok
[05:29] <QsM`> Hey, can anyone please assist me on login into my server who is running ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>? Shamefully I've never used Linux before.
[05:29] <Netham45> QsM' um, type your account and password. :)
[05:29] <montyp> QsM`, oh, how shameful!
[05:29] <Netham45> or
[05:29] <Flannel> QsM`: hwo are you logging in? (and, it's just 6.06)
[05:29] <Netham45> do you want to ssh into it?
[05:30] <QsM`> I have all info (username, pass, ip) but I don't know how to log in or what software I need.
[05:30] <Netham45> QsM' did you install SSH on the server?
[05:30] <Pollywog> I have WPA working on my home wifi but what is the easiest way to change configs if I want to use my laptop at a library or other pllace?
[05:30] <Netham45> Pollywog: wifi-radar
[05:31] <Pollywog> Netham45: ty
[05:31] <QsM`> No I haven't I don't know how to log into my server
[05:31] <Pollywog> I think I have that installed
[05:31] <Flannel> QsM`: are you sitting at the server?
[05:31] <thugren> I am have a problem enable root account to access the gnome interface? How do I do it
[05:31] <QsM`> No it is rented.
[05:32] <Flannel> thugren: you don't.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account
[05:32] <jrib> !root | thugren
[05:32] <ubotu> thugren: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <BeepAU> i bought a laptop which came with a nvidia mcp51 chipset which I can't get sound to work with anything linux. could someone guide me as to how to get sound working in ubuntu?
[05:32] <Flannel> QsM`: well, what interface do they give you to login?  It's probably SSH, but you should find out for sure.
[05:33] <admix> greetings all!
[05:33] <admix> just installed ubuntu =)
[05:33] <Netham45> thugren:  system > administration > login window ... > security
[05:33] <Netham45> cool
[05:33] <Netham45> like it/?
[05:33] <QsM`> They just gave me the IP, username, and pass. Nothing else. I don't even have a control panel
[05:33] <montyp> QsM`, if you are using windows get putty, if not use terminal
[05:33] <Netham45> QsM' try getting putty
[05:33] <admix> yeah, much more than i have before
[05:33] <Netham45> then enter the IP
[05:33] <Netham45> then select yes to the hash key
[05:33] <Netham45> then enter your username/pass
[05:33] <needhelp> i need some help in getting my phillips USB sound card to work; i can get systems sounds but no music plays, for example.
[05:33] <admix> but' unable to launch my GPRS till installed gnome-ppp
[05:33] <montyp> QsM`, what are you on now? Windows or Linux?
[05:34] <QsM`> Alright I will google it thanks.
[05:34] <QsM`> Winxp
[05:34] <Netham45> yea
[05:34] <Netham45> use putty
[05:34] <montyp> QsM`, ok, get putty, put the information in, and make sure you select ssh
[05:34] <Netham45> ssh is selected by default, btw.
[05:34] <QsM`> Alright thanks alot guys.
[05:34] <Pollywog> is there something like wifi radar but for Gnome?
[05:34] <montyp> QsM`, because your login is most probably ssh ... unless they got tricky and put the sshd server listening on another port :)
[05:34] <Netham45> wifi-radar is for gnome. :)
[05:35] <QsM`> I'm hoping for ssh :)
[05:35] <Pollywog> oh I wonder what it was I used today in KDE
[05:35] <Pollywog> I think it was wifi radar
[05:35] <Netham45> it might work in KDE too, havn't tried personally.
[05:35] <BeepAU> i bought a laptop which came with a nvidia mcp51 chipset which I can't get sound to work with anything linux. could someone guide me as to how to get sound working in ubuntu?
[05:35] <montyp> QsM`, yeah ... only a fool would use telnet anyway
[05:35] <Pollywog> probably was then
[05:35] <thugren> natham45.. Thanks!!!!!!!!!! That was what I need
[05:35] <thugren> ;)
[05:35] <Pollywog> I was a foo once
[05:35] <Netham45> :)
[05:35] <Pollywog> long ago
[05:36] <Pollywog> well I might still be a foo but not because of telnet
[05:36] <QsM`> Alright, thanks man. I'll go check out putty and I'll be back if any issues. thanks again.
[05:39] <montyp> Pollywog, hmm maybe some other clear-text protocol then ;)
[05:39] <Pollywog> ahhh IRC
[05:40] <Netham45> wicd, try it, but it doesn't work well with encryption.
[05:40] <kraypius> for some reason my mic isnt working in ubuntu. I have set all the volume control tracks to on.. Mic is selected for recording.. all volume slides are up
[05:40] <montyp> Pollywog, that's the one!
[05:40] <needhelp> #
[05:40] <needhelp>     /msg nickserv register <ircdad>
[05:41] <mattyv> kraypius: Try alsamixer from a terminal, check that the mike isn't muted in there
[05:41] <Flannel> needhelp: You'll want to change that password
[05:41] <QsM`> Guys I logged in successfully! Is there a VNC like program for ubuntu? where I can login remotely and view the servers desktop?
[05:42] <montyp> QsM`, yeah, strangely called VNC
[05:42] <Pollywog> which package contains alsaconf?
[05:42] <Pollywog> in the Debian world it is alsa-utils
[05:42] <Pollywog> but I don't know about Ubuntu
[05:43] <Netham45> did you try apt-get install alsa-utils?
[05:43] <QsM`> Ah, I thought it only worked on windows. Can you instruct me on how to install it?
[05:43] <Hyper-cool> i'm having issues playing mp3's and some other "bad" file types. I looked on the ubuntu wiki and installed the suggested things using synaptic but i'm still getting "gstreamer could not find proper codec" does anyone know that's up? it's a freshly installed ubuntu edgy
[05:43] <I_Eat_Plastic> How do I allow users to WRITE (can already read) files via FTP in their own directory?
[05:43] <kraypius> mattyv, it seems as though its using the wrong mic
[05:43] <Netham45> QsM' do you have root access?
[05:43] <montyp> QsM`, well you have to know if there is a vnc server running on the remote machine
[05:43] <BeepAU> i bought a laptop which came with a nvidia mcp51 chipset which I can't get sound to work with anything linux. could someone guide me as to how to get sound working in ubuntu?
[05:43] <QsM`> Yes.
[05:43] <Pollywog> Netham45: I asked someone to install it yesterday but after he did, there was no alsaconfig in it
[05:43] <kraypius> mattyv, its using the one built into my monitor
[05:43] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: you need to install gstreamer-plugins bad and ugly
[05:43] <Pollywog> alsaconf
[05:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> !ftp
[05:44] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[05:44] <eeyore_> Hyper-cool: look for packages named like that in synaptic
[05:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> !FTPd
[05:44] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[05:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> !vsftpd