[00:00] <k1l> mercuryrising: see http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/
[00:00] <Beldar> CarlFK, I would ask for help on the actual issue than assume a remove is all, not sure of a fix though.
[00:00] <CarlFK> Beldar: l got a new laptop, installed sausy, then rsyned me@old:/home /home
[00:00] <nebket1> that sounds bad
[00:00] <CarlFK> Beldar: did that a day or so ago, no help, so trying to beat this into submission
[00:00] <nebket1> just the wording...
[00:01] <CarlFK> Beldar: the problem is I can't enable seconds - a symptom of the cause:  the 'x
[00:01] <CarlFK> er
[00:01] <CarlFK> the [x]seconds option is disabled in the gui (along with most of the options)
[00:02] <Beldar> CarlFK, generally no help comes down to bad descriptions and lack of details. and let me repeat I do not know of ant fix.
[00:02] <Beldar> any*
[00:06] <Payton> Beldar: I'm in the shell or whatever, what do I do to boot it up>
[00:06] <Payton> ?
[00:08] <Beldar> Payton, This a vbox boot, and have you checked the sum?
[00:09] <Beldar> Payton, I have always had ubuntu boot in a vbox so not sure of any options beyond making sure the iso is good.
[00:09] <MonkeyHobo> Is a single iteration enough when using shred to wipe a HD?
[00:10] <CarlFK> MonkeyHobo: depends on who is trying to dig ;)
[00:10] <MonkeyHobo> Probably no one, it's just an old wreck i'm giving away to a friend.
[00:11] <MonkeyHobo> I'm just curious since I can't see how a bit could ever be anything else than 1 or 0. If it's been written as 0 once how could anyone ever dig up what was there before?
[00:12] <Beldar> MonkeyHobo, I think your fine, run testdisk on it to see what shows
[00:12] <CarlFK> MonkeyHobo: bits are 0/1, but a pile of iron shavings can be all sorts of things
[00:13] <MonkeyHobo> "iron shavings"?
[00:14] <CarlFK> MonkeyHobo: what the bits are saved in (the stuff on the spinny disk)
[00:15] <MonkeyHobo> Hmmm, still baffles me that it's possible to regain prior bits...
[00:15] <Beldar> MonkeyHobo, There is legit research on this issue, uh you wont find it here.
[00:15] <MonkeyHobo> I don't doubt that, it's just beyond my knowledge...
[00:16] <Beldar> MonkeyHobo, You will get subjective assumed opinions here, hardly worth the time to be honest
[00:16] <MonkeyHobo> Anyway, I have limited time and the HD is 500 gigs, so I guess 1 iteration is all I got...
[00:16] <CarlFK> MonkeyHobo: start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_forensics
[00:18] <Gerowen> So when I'm burning, or attempting to burn, an audio CD with Brasero, why does Brasero just freeze at "Normalizing Tracks" and never actually do anything?  When running it from a terminal, the only output I get occurs when adding any track which is: "** (brasero:15692): CRITICAL **: brasero_track_type_equal: assertion 'type_B != NULL' failed"
[00:19] <PatrickDickey> Hi everyone. Quick question. I installed Ubuntu Server on my laptop, and need to convert it to just a desktop operating system. (Don't ask why I didn't just install from a Live CD, as that's another issue entirely). Is it just a matter of installing ubuntu-desktop, and then purging ubuntu-server?
[00:20] <bekks> PatrickDickey: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and install a desktop kernel.
[00:20] <PatrickDickey> bekks: The kernel that installed is a generic (both the regular 3.11-14-generic and 3.11-14-extras-generic). Do I need a different one?
[00:21] <k1l> PatrickDickey: just install ubuntu-desktop and make sure lightdm ist installed
[00:21] <Payton> I'm getting a message saying "this kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU, unable to boot."
[00:21] <k1l> there is no difference in server and desktop kernel anymore
[00:21] <Payton> I installed the right version and I am using a 64 bit
[00:22] <Payton> Using VBox though...
[00:22] <PatrickDickey> Payton: You might have to check BIOS to make sure that the AMD-V or VT (Intel's version of virtualization) are enabled.
[00:22] <Payton> PatrickDickey: ?
[00:22] <Payton> PatrickDickey: Sorry, I'm new to ubuntu and used to Mac OS
[00:23] <PatrickDickey> Payton: On your physical computer, in BIOS. If the virtualization isn't enabled, you can't install a 64-bit guest.
[00:23] <Payton> PatrickDickey: So I have to install a 32 bit version of ubuntu?
[00:25] <PatrickDickey> Payton: I'd say reboot, and go into BIOS. Look around there for anything that has to do with Virtualization, and enable it. It might be something like VT-x or AMD-v in BIOS. If you don't have those options, then yes, all you can install is a 32-bit version.
[00:25] <Payton> PatrickDickey: I've done all i could with the virtualization :/
[00:26] <PatrickDickey> Payton: In BIOS, you mean?
[00:26] <Payton> Looks like I need 32 bit, but still I don't understand. I'm using a 64 bit based and 64 bit processor
[00:27] <pvl1> hey, for the life in me, i cannot figure out how to get my system to run a script at startup. furthermore i want to make another script thatll execute before x is started
[00:27] <bekks> Payton: Which CPU do you have exactly?
[00:27] <Payton> What do you mean, OS?
[00:28] <kryto> the Processor
[00:28] <PatrickDickey> Payton, he means Processor. Intel or AMD, and type. Like Intel Celeron or AMD Athalon, for example.
[00:28] <Payton> Let me check
[00:28] <bekks> PatrickDickey: I mean: "which exact make and model is your processor"?
[00:28] <nebket1> Intel Pentium 286 :D
[00:29] <picca> no such thing lol
[00:29] <MonkeyDust> Pentium is 586, penta means 5 :)
[00:30]  * PatrickDickey is going to guess that Payton's BIOS doesn't have any support for virtualization in it. Has an old 64-bit computer sitting on the floor like that.
[00:30] <Payton> bekks: Processor: AMD A8-5550M APU Radeon HD Graphics 2.10GHz
[00:30] <fishcooker> #wpa_supplicant -B -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext && dhclient wlan0
[00:30] <Payton> bekks: Close to a i5 intel processor
[00:30] <fishcooker> but there is no ip address acquired
[00:31] <bekks> Payton: Far away, since its AMD ;) You have to check wether you enabled AMD-V in the BIOS.
[00:31] <PatrickDickey> Payton: Out of curosity, what brand of computer is it? Brand and model.
[00:31] <Payton> PatrickDickey: HP Windows 8 and I have no clue as to witch model
[00:31] <Payton> bekks: How would i do that in VBox?
[00:32] <bekks> Payton: Vbox has nothing to do with that. Turn your computer off, boot it, get into the BIOS, and check that setting.
[00:32] <PatrickDickey> Payton: You do that on the computer itself. When you reboot, start pressing F2, and it *should* take you to the BIOS. Then look for that setting in there.
[00:32] <Payton> bekks: What do I look for in that?
[00:33] <bekks> Payton: I told you.
[00:33] <PatrickDickey> And Payton, if you see something on the screen that says "Press <key> to enter setup", Press that key instead of the F2 key.
[00:33] <fishcooker> there is error message ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[00:33] <Payton> bekks: I know, haven't you heard of spam?
[00:33] <bekks> Payton: Whatever.  I put it on a USB using Rufus (http://rufus.akeo.io). The LiveUSB did not have wifi, however.
[00:35] <bekks> 1207 013047 < bekks> Payton: Far away, since its AMD ;) You have to check wether you enabled AMD-V in the BIOS.
[00:35] <bekks> 1207 013134 < Payton> bekks: How would i do that in VBox?
[00:35] <CreamedChicken> I shut off and rebooted in to Windows 8.
[00:35] <Payton> Alright
[00:35] <bekks> Payton: I did, and you replied.
[00:35] <Payton> I'll be back then
[00:35] <CreamedChicken> Should I Xubuntu first, and then try again?
[00:36] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: In Windows 8, did you go into Power Options and disable Fast Startup (in What does the power button do)?
[00:36] <CreamedChicken> Yes, I did.
[00:37] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: Then, did you either go into BIOS and set the boot order to USB before Hard drive, or press F12 (or whichever key gives you a boot menu) and choose the USB drive?
[00:37] <CreamedChicken> I pressed F12 and booted from USB.
[00:38] <PatrickDickey> Ok, so you got into the Live USB, but it didn't have Wifi, so you rebooted, right? (I missed that part)
[00:38] <CreamedChicken> Correct. Should I have installed first?
[00:39] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: If you wanted to install it, then yes. It'll install from the USB without getting the updates. Afterwards, you'll probably have to get the driver for your wifi card, and install that. Then you'll have wifi.
[00:39] <CreamedChicken> oh
[00:39] <PatrickDickey> But, since you're in Windows now, I'd make sure of which card you have (the exact brand and model) so you know which drivers to get later.
[00:39] <CreamedChicken> I guess I'll reboot, install, hope it doesn't mess up, and try again.
[00:40]  * PatrickDickey has a new enough Realtek card, that I had to download drivers for it.
[00:46]  * PatrickDickey after 40 minutes, starts to wonder if he shouldn't have installed both ubuntu and lubuntu desktops... :P
[00:49] <circ-user-b7neg> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 Server, and have installed ubuntu-desktop.  When the server boots up it goes straight into the Desktop login GUI.  I was wondering if its possible to prevent that from happening, and instead be faced with the traditional black login command screen?
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> circ-user-b7neg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148717/how-do-i-boot-into-the-console-and-then-launch-the-ubuntu-desktop-from-it might help you.
[00:53] <STUPID> so i have tried downloading Ubuntu 13.10 from Ubuntu.com twice and it has worked neither time
[00:53] <MonkeyHobo> Just passed the first pass, my HD still has a previous version of Ubuntu installed...?
[00:53] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: define hasn't worked either time. what happened?
[00:53] <STUPID> perhaps I am failing to burn it to the CD correctly? I just open with Windows Disk Image Burner
[00:54] <STUPID> I get an error when I try and boot the computer from the DVD
[00:54] <circ-user-b7neg> PatrickDickey: that looks helpful. thanks, i'll give that a try
[00:54] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: Can you set the speed in Windows Image Burner? If so, then you want the slowest speed possible.
[00:54] <KickStarRabbit> if anyone needs my assistance I can assist - my specialty is networking
[00:54] <STUPID> PatrickDicket  - OK I can try that
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> circ-user-b7neg: Hopefully that works for you. I'm in the opposite boat of sorts. I had to install server, but want the desktop.
[00:55] <STUPID> PatrickDicket: I don't get an option for burn speed
[00:55]  * PatrickDickey wooohooo I see it setting up Unity Scopes.... And LightDM. I might be set...
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: Do you have another program for burning images? I'd try ISOBurn, if you don't. It allows you to set the speed, and also verify the burn.
[00:56] <STUPID> PatrickDickey - I can download that and use it
[00:57] <akurilin> Hey folks, quick question. On 12.04, how do I change the DNS servers used by a certain connection?
[00:57] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: That's what I'd do. It's free, and unofficially recommended by Microsoft (at least their beta developers).
[00:57] <akurilin> would like to use the local instance of bind9 I just configured
[00:57] <fishcooker> Linux 3.2.0-57-generic #87-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 21:38:12 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux.. i want to install wireless driver for my ath5k
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> akurilin: You can change Network Manager to just get the IP address from DHCP, and specify DNS Servers in there.
[00:58] <fishcooker> which package to install?
[00:58] <fishcooker> i mean in the terminal PatrickDickey
[00:58] <MonkeyDust> fishcooker: linux 3.2 ... what ubuntu version is that?
[00:59] <akurilin> PatrickDickey: any chance I could do that from a config somewhere?
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> fishcooker: /etc/network/interfaces If you change your IP Address to static, you can specify them in there. Or you might be able to do it in /etc/resolv.conf (but it might get overwritten by dhcp).
[00:59] <akurilin> PatrickDickey: supposedly this was once located under /etc/network/interfaces
[00:59] <fishcooker> ubuntu server
[00:59] <PatrickDickey> akurilin: It still is. I had to do it this morning to update my laptop.
[01:00] <fishcooker> MonkeyDust:
[01:00] <fishcooker> i choose those kernel on installation step
[01:00] <fishcooker> have i do wrong thing here
[01:00] <PatrickDickey> Sorry, my other message to fishcooker was meant for akurilin instead (about network/interfaces and resolv.conf).
[01:00] <MonkeyDust> fishcooker: 12.04 has 3.8 that's why i'm asking
[01:00] <fishcooker> or should i install madwifi for this box
[01:01] <fishcooker> on installation there is option to choose
[01:01] <fishcooker> yeah i know
[01:01] <fishcooker> but i choose linux-image-generic
[01:01] <STUPID> PatrickDickey: I cannot run ISOBurn because I am not administrator (Windows 7)
[01:02] <fishcooker> what should i do MonkeyDust.. i want this wireless up and running..
[01:02] <akurilin> PatrickDickey: ok I'm kind of getting it. Is there any chance I can be on DHCP and still override its preference just for the DNS server?
[01:03] <fishcooker> just add this option to your interface "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>" akurilin
[01:03] <circ-user-b7neg> im doing a release upgrade using the internet on my existing server build.  Something makes me think this may have been quicker to do an overlapped upgrade instead (by downloading the 13.10 ISO)... Zzzzzzz
[01:03] <fishcooker> it won't override the resolv.conf
[01:05] <akurilin> fishcooker: the interface isn't listed there, I don't think it will show up in that file if network manager is controlling it.
[01:06] <myd_> hello
[01:06] <fishcooker> hi myd_
[01:07] <DuncanNZ> what just happened?
[01:08] <DuncanNZ> ubottu removes channel operator status from ubottu
[01:08] <PatrickDickey> STUPID: Try this instead http://www.freeisoburner.com/ supposedly you don't have to install it.
[01:09] <akurilin> fishcooker: I actually stumbled upon a dhcp option that lets you specify DNS servers by hand
[01:09] <akurilin> that's pretty convenient
[01:10] <PatrickDickey> DuncanNZ: I think the bot just demoted itself from an owner to a regular user.
[01:10] <DuncanNZ> PatrickDickey: why would it do that?
[01:10] <CreamedChicken> Alright, I'm back.
[01:10] <PatrickDickey> DuncanNZ: Maybe the hammer was getting heavy?
[01:10] <CreamedChicken> Setup automatically enabled wifi.
[01:10] <Jordan_U> DuncanNZ: We have some bans that auto-expire, for those bans ubottu automatically ops herself, removes the ban, then de-ops herself again when the ban has expired.
[01:11] <DuncanNZ> oh I see thanks Jordan_U
[01:11] <Jordan_U> DuncanNZ: You're welcome.
[01:11] <Tinkerlad> o/
[01:12] <CreamedChicken> However, when I go to Xubuntu, it the only options are Install Over and Do Something Else. I selected Do Something Else. Because it is a "new" laptop, with UEFI, does it need anything special, like a /boot partition? I just have / and /home right now.
[01:13] <CreamedChicken> This is what GParted looks like: http://i.imgur.com/2vO3EFO.png
[01:13] <CreamedChicken> I've got /, /home, and /swap, is there anything else I'm missing, like /boot?
[01:15] <bish0p_> Hey uh, what's a man page?
[01:15] <wafflejock> !man > bish0p_
[01:15] <KickStarRabbit> manual = man
[01:15] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: The bootloader should install in /boot/efi (which should be there, if your Windows 8 was booting in UEFI mode).  Do you see the partition in the list that says "Boot"?
[01:16] <PatrickDickey> (under flags)
[01:17] <CreamedChicken> First one, fat32 partition, labeled "ESP
[01:17] <fixmypc956> !fstb
[01:17] <fixmypc956> !fstab
[01:17] <PatrickDickey> That's the one. When you install, GRUB will install there, and move everything around in there. That way you'll be able to boot either Windows 8 or Xubuntu.
[01:17] <Jordan_U> CreamedChicken: Make sure that that partition is mounted to /boot/efi/ .
[01:18] <CreamedChicken> So, in a terminal, I need to do: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi, correct?
[01:18] <ekristen> anyone a debian package kung fu master in here? for some reason a package I have created acts differently when being installed via dpkg -i vs apt-get install, the package is setup to just extra files into certain locations on the filesystem, with dpkg -i the files are extract as expected to the proper locations, but with apt-get install, the files do not show up anywhere
[01:19] <CreamedChicken> Anything else I need to do?
[01:20] <wafflejock> Brocky: believe you just need to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[01:21] <pvl1> im having difficulty get a script to run at startup
[01:21] <Lajjla> Hmm
[01:21] <Lajjla> So I can't connect to certain sites, I found out they all start with 192.* after resolving the hostmname?
[01:21] <Lajjla> Are they even supposed tos tart with 192?
[01:21] <Lajjla> And if so, what could be the problem?
[01:21] <wafflejock> Brocky: here's a post where they're showing some options through the GUI to update the sources http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[01:21] <FloodBot1> Lajjla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <Lajjla> Like, is github.com <IP_ADDRESS> too for you people?
[01:22] <Jordan_U> CreamedChicken: No, that is something that you need to configure in Ubuntu's installer (unless you're using automatic partitioning, in which case it will be done for you properly automatically :).
[01:22] <wafflejock> Lajjla: yes nslookup resolves the same here
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> Lajjla: That's what I got also. So it's not the resolution that's failing. It's something else. Do you get an error message when you try to go to their site?
[01:23] <Brocky> wafflejock: Unfortunetly Im currently on a windows machine... and Im looking to download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[01:23] <Lajjla> PatrickDickey, I just can't connect, to 3 sites, all of whom staret with 192
[01:23] <Lajjla> Maybe this is a flaw in my router or something?
[01:23] <Lajjla> Because like, the windows computer can't connect too
[01:24] <CreamedChicken> Jordan_U, like this? http://i.imgur.com/7Nxqm2v.png
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> Lajjla: It could be. It sounds like your router is trying to redirect all 192.* to your local network, instead of just the 192.168.* addresses.
[01:24] <wafflejock> Lajjla: yeah sounds like some issue with the router perhaps see if you can configure the LAN settings and use a different IP range
[01:24] <Lajjla> I thought maybe it wasn't supposed to connect to 192. and my dns settings are failing me.,
[01:24] <PatrickDickey> Lajjla: Out of curiosity, what's your IP address on the computer?
[01:25] <Lajjla> Super weird, it only started today
[01:25] <Lajjla> But yeah, it does ssound like that
[01:25] <wafflejock> Brocky: looks like you can just grab the mini.iso file there for the minimal CD network install
[01:25] <Lajjla> Oh, hmm, I notice an anomaly, my static netmask is set to <IP_ADDRESS> instead of <IP_ADDRESS> hmm
[01:26] <wafflejock> Lajjla: that would be a problem
[01:26] <wafflejock> then all 192.x.x.x are internal
[01:26] <Lajjla> PatrickDickey, I am <IP_ADDRESS> on this machine I believe
[01:26] <Lajjla> But, lket me see what happens if I reset the router with <IP_ADDRESS> now
[01:27] <wafflejock> Lajjla: should be all good if the router is 192.168.0.x and everything internal has a corresponding IP
[01:27] <PatrickDickey> Lajjla: What is it set at currently? (The <IP_ADDRESS> part).
[01:27] <Brocky> so for pxe I just need the mini.iso for the pxe install.. I presume this means that being only 36M that it is missing a lot compared to the cd install though?
[01:28] <PatrickDickey> Brocky: All the mini iso does is boot up, and connect to the PXE (or the Ubuntu mirrors) for the rest. That's why it's so small.
[01:28] <wafflejock> Brocky: the minimal CD install basically just gets you booting into the first couple of command line based menus then gets everything else from the net... I'm not too familiar with PXE boot setups though
[01:28] <CreamedChicken> Jordan_U, I currently have /dev/sda1 set as "EFI Booot Partition", /dev/sda8 as /home, /dev/sda10 as / and /dev/sda9 as /swap. Is there anything else I'm missing.
[01:28] <CreamedChicken> *?
[01:28] <nevzets> Well, there we go
[01:28] <nevzets> Lesson learnt, I can screw the whole building by doing this
[01:28] <nevzets> What does netmask even do?
[01:28] <nevzets> So let me get this straight, by that setting on my computer I can screw anyone who uses the router without needing a pass to the router essentially?
[01:29] <wafflejock> no netmask is used to determine which IPs are in the local range it shouldn't affect other systems unless it's changed on the router
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> nevzets: Netmask helps the computer to know which other devices are in the local network. If you change it, then it looks for other devices with that same netmask, and will only connect to them.
[01:29] <wafflejock> PatrickDickey: jinx :)
[01:29] <PatrickDickey> lol ;)
[01:30] <nevzets> PatrickDickey, so whyis <IP_ADDRESS> the cannonical way to go.
[01:30] <wafflejock> nevzets: this gives you 200 some IPs to work with locally
[01:30] <nevzets> And why does changing it to <IP_ADDRESS> on one machine block anytihng starting with 192
[01:30] <nevzets> I don't know what netmask exactly does, I just know it's supposed to be on <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:30] <Brocky> Ahh k. Maybe I better explain what I am trying to do and get some advice that way... I want to install 13.10 server onto an old machine of mine however it has'nt got a cd drive. I tried usb and cant get it to boot from it either so I wanted to try PXE
[01:31] <wafflejock> nevzets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[01:31] <wafflejock> nevzets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAT
[01:31] <wafflejock> nevzets: those are the parts involved if you really want to know, it's a bit complicated though just a heads up... I took a semester on Java network programming and learned a lot but was a full semester of school covering the details
[01:32] <CreamedChicken> Anyone have suggestions for partitioning? Just want to make sure I don't screw up the dual boot.
[01:32] <Rayhai> Hey, I'm a little confused about something with my laptop. I'm on Ubuntu 13.10, and to keep my system from suspending when I close the lid, I had to edit the file /etc/systemd/login.conf andand change a couple lines to "HandleLidSwitch=ignore" and "LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=no" But it takes no effect when I'm on the cinnamon 2.0 environment.
[01:33] <Lajjla> Ah, I see, subnetmask is just to be seen as a number
[01:33] <Rayhai> It works fine on unity and gnome
[01:34] <PatrickDickey> CreamedChicken: It looks good. As long as you don't have it formatting the /boot, or your OS partitions, you should be fine. The ONLY ones that should be formatted are your /, /home, and swap partitions.
[01:34] <wafflejock> Lajjla: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/164015 as much as I hate to reference microsoft here this is a good explanation
[01:35] <PatrickDickey> wafflejock: sometimes they're good for something. ;)
[01:35] <wafflejock> PatrickDickey: yeah honestly their docs have always been okay when it comes to programming stuff too... it's just the languages that don't make any sense :) (XAML ugh)
[01:35] <Rayhai> Microsoft good for something? huh, that's strange. They've only ever screwed me over.
[01:36] <Rayhai> But does anyone know to to keep my laptop from suspending on lise closure?
[01:37] <wafflejock> Rayhai: in the system settings power options
[01:37] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I'm in Kubuntu so can't check exact names from here if you're on Ubuntu
[01:37] <PatrickDickey> That's where I was going to point him also.
[01:38] <Rayhai> wafflejock: Tried that, doesn't work.
[01:38] <wafflejock> Rayhai: hmm works here you sure you checked for plugged in vs unplugged
[01:38] <Rayhai> Yep.
[01:39] <PatrickDickey> Rayhai: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid maybe?
[01:39] <Rayhai> wafflejock: I had to modify /etc/systemd/login.conf, that fixed the problem on GNOME and Unity, but it's still borked on Cinnamon 2.0
[01:39] <fixmypc956> how do i automount a partition
[01:40] <wafflejock> Rayhai: not sure you may need to go to a cinammon specific channel or mint or something though not sure you'll find the answer here (just a suggest maybe someone here knows)
[01:41] <CreamedChicken> Alright, thanks. It's installing now. I'll be back if I encounter any issues.
[01:41] <PatrickDickey> Rayhai: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=208&t=101396 then. I didn't realize it was for cinnamon.
[01:41] <Rayhai> wafflejock: well my base is ubuntu 13.10,  and I couldn't find anything on google, so I came here.
[01:42] <wafflejock> Rayhai: that's fine just trying to offer some extra options since I don't usually see a lot of chatter about cinammon in here
[01:43] <Rayhai> wafflejock: haha, well I'm just trying out some different desktop environment right now. Kinda looking for something that's clean and easy to use for productivity.
[01:44] <jevon_> which one Rayhai?
[01:44] <Rayhai> I'm trying out Cinnamon 2.0 right now. I really like it, but I can't close my lid without it suspending.
[01:45] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I'm really loving KDE, it takes some rigging but you can get it just how you like it er at least just how I like it (I'm not a big user of the KMenu though just shortcut everything or put it in a panel)
[01:45] <wafflejock> haven't really given Cinnamon a serious shot yet though
[01:45] <jevon_> kde is awesome
[01:47] <Rayhai> I'll take a look into it. Anyways, can someone suggest to me a good dock?  I want a clean, customizeable dock.
[01:47] <wafflejock> Rayhai: also just another random suggestion using Virtual Box so you can test out a lot of stuff without messing up your main system (and clone VMs) is a nice option if you just want to blow through some stuff and not compromise the stability of your main system
[01:48] <jevon_> http://glx-dock.org/
[01:49] <jevon_> oh, sry u already mentioned it
[01:49]  * PatrickDickey is really starting to think he bought a lemon...
[01:49] <Rayhai> wafflejock : I have no experience with VMs, but if it's nothing too daunting, I could give it a try
[01:50] <PatrickDickey> I'm getting hard lockups on one of my CPU cores. :S It just started now, after I've installed the desktops. I *may* have to restore my original drive, and start from there again. :S
[01:50] <wafflejock> Rayhai: super easy actually just, sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[01:50] <Rayhai> jevon: haha, yeah. I like glx/cairo-dock, but the animations are too much of an eyesore for me.
[01:50] <wafflejock> after that it has a GUI to make a new VM image file and set it up to install an OS then you point it to a ISO on first start
[01:52] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I actually wrote up a guide to getting it setup for doing development stuff (AngularJS is where my focus has been, playing with Android development too now) https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qRYXSYyAunclSOr-iLhpHa7A88MQXrO04B0n8pQPmA/edit#heading=h.bw2mdw5i1i9q
[01:52] <wafflejock> Rayhai: I took screenshots at each step of the VM setup and explained as best I could about what the important stuff does
[01:52] <Rayhai> Oh man. Gotta love 3rd world country internet speed. Over half an hour to download VirtualBox
[01:53] <Rayhai> wafflejock: Thanks! Once I can download a few things, I'll give it a try.
[01:53] <wafflejock> Rayhai: sure thing glad it can help some people... will eventually post this to my small business site but it's still a bit rough around the edges
[01:54] <independent>  Is there a way in bash to redirect a connection and logging the session without using a packet sniffer?
[01:55] <gige> i had a new laptop with windows 8. I deleted windows 8, i want to install ubuntu. i disabled secure boot. Do i have to partition any special wayy?
[01:56] <wafflejock> gige: not in particular but uefi may be an issue
[01:56] <wafflejock> !uefi > gige
[01:56] <gige> i will be using 12.04
[01:58] <gige> is uefi like gonna be normal now
[01:58] <gige> is it a new thing. or a windows thing
[01:58] <pseubodot> I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and although virtually everything is working amazingly well, the HUD now knows nothing about any software installed on this box. Is there a way to rebuild whatever indexes etc are required for the HUD?
[01:58] <wafflejock> gige: a little from A but mostly from B I believe
[02:00] <fixmypc956> how do i automount a partition
[02:00] <wafflejock> gige: and since most PCs are preloaded with windows this is a thing now however you want to look at that
[02:00] <wafflejock> fixmypc956: fstab
[02:01] <wafflejock> !fstab > fixmypc956
[02:01] <gige> wafflejock: i mean but soon linux will be no problem on this right
[02:01] <gige> wafflejock: I didnt even know about this till my newest  laptop purchase
[02:02] <wafflejock> gige: I imagine that's true since it's probably not going away, but I'm not sure... bough my laptop from Sys76 so it's all linux friendly out of the box, had Win 8 running dual boot but then decided to put Win 8 into a virtual machine instead since I just need photoshop here or there
[02:02] <wafflejock> bought*
[02:03] <gige> wafflejock: i never heard of sys76 i want a laptop from them. Might return this lol
[02:03] <gige> they shipped it to you with ubutu?
[02:03] <Rayhai> wafflejock: with KDE, is it possible to get myy desktop enviroment to look something like this? http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7381/11245011416_0c369350a4_o.png - The dark taskbar with minimalistic icons, along with the music playing in the task icons?
[02:03] <wafflejock> gige: hah yeah I hadn't heard about them but jupiter broadcasting is a linux channel that is funded by them and push it a lot so eventually decided to try it, quite happy for the last year with it... yeah shipped with 12.04 when I ordered last november
[02:04] <Pessimist> Rayhai, it's cinnamon + numix
[02:04] <Rayhai> Pessimist: I'm on Ubuntu + Cinnamon right now, but I'm haffing a few issues with it.
[02:05] <wafflejock> Rayhai: eh sort of, if you use the Oxygen theme and just have one panel at the bottom and use some dock app you can get it similar but won't be exact
[02:05] <Rayhai> having*
[02:08] <gige_> wired connection works for me but not wireless
[02:08] <gige_> i click connections but i dont see it finding any routers
[02:08] <wafflejock> !wireless | gige
[02:09] <wafflejock> gige: you may need to install NDIS wrapper or otherwise figure out what to do for your specific device.. if usb use lsusb to see the device id and then look it up otherwise use lscpci
[02:10] <gige_> alright thanks
[02:11] <wafflejock> Rayhai: here's what mine looks like ATM http://pasteboard.co/1OmurxuT.png there's a hidden panel in the top left of the right monitor too where I keep stuff for quicklaunch
[02:11] <SuperVeggie> Hi, can someone help me?
[02:12] <wafflejock> Rayhai: pretty much everything can be customized though which is why I like it, even the themes have some nice tweaking options built in
[02:12] <wafflejock> !ask | SuperVeggie
[02:12] <Payton> Hello, I needed help on speeding up my ubuntu it is running kinda slow
[02:12] <wafflejock> Payton: have you tried to look into why it's slow? have you used the system monitor to see if you're running out of RAM and using swap or if it's cpu usage?
[02:13] <SuperVeggie> My youngest son was surfing the web last night and to my shock he was at www.bbc.co.uk the .uk stands for United Kingdom and, well, doesn't it cost extra to view long distance?
[02:13] <Payton> I set it to 1GB ram it should be fine cD
[02:13] <Payton> xD
[02:14] <wafflejock> SuperVeggie: there is no long distance when it comes to the internet, not since the days of dial up
[02:14] <wafflejock> Payton: if you're using Unity 64 bit 1GB is probably really not enough, depends on your DE and other choices
[02:14] <SuperVeggie> No, I am sure they charge extra. It doesn't make any sense that they wouldn't. England is a long way away, they would lose millions not to.
[02:14] <whoever> hi all , I am tring to use arp to list all nodes on my network, but am only getting back the gateway<router> with arp -a . can someone assist
[02:15] <Payton> What should I set it to?
[02:15] <Payton> I have 8GB RAM
[02:15] <Payton> But I don't want to go into swap :(
[02:15] <wafflejock> Payton: give it half if you're doing a VM and you aren't using 4GB
[02:15] <geminimoon66> SuperVeggie - I suppose it depends on your internet service.  If you pay a flat rate it should make no difference.
[02:16] <Payton> So i need 4GB RAM?
[02:16] <Payton> I just don't want to use swap..
[02:16] <wafflejock> Payton: it won't hurt, 2GB would be sufficient but I find myself getting into the 4GB range pretty frequently, granted I just leave stuff open all over
[02:16] <SuperVeggie> Well we use dial-up and you just said it costs extra for dial-up long distance?
[02:16] <Rayhai> wafflejock: hmm. I'm not interested in gradients and high quality/resolution icons, with my weak laptop, I need all the preformance I can get for gamming. Also why I'm looking for a cleaner dock.
[02:16] <Payton> Alright I'll set to 4GB
[02:16] <wafflejock> SuperVeggie: no the dial up will only cost more if it has to actually dial to a long distance number
[02:17] <wafflejock> going to domains from any country is fine
[02:17] <SuperVeggie> Ok thank you :)
[02:17] <wafflejock> SuperVeggie: sure thing
[02:17] <lovethecode> hello world!
[02:17] <wafflejock> lovethecode: hello love
[02:18] <lovethecode> hi wafflejock
[02:18] <boern> hey guys i have a problem, everytime i start my software center i get an error: http://www7.pic-upload.de/07.12.13/cio68vmudfjw.png can you tell me how to fix this? click on repair isnt working
[02:19] <SuperVeggie> Does anybody know of the best floppy disk I can use to play battlefield 3 on high settings?
[02:19] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532862/
[02:21] <lovethecode> boen: not sure but can you satisfy the dependencies yourself?
[02:21] <SuperVeggie> Anyone? I use a 200MB floppy disc
[02:22] <boern> ???
[02:22] <boern> what do you mean
[02:22] <KickStarRabbit> sorry i didnt check back but did anyone find a good link for running ubu under win8
[02:23] <lovethecode> boern: use synaptic to install the extra image mentioned in the error.
[02:23] <KickStarRabbit> not a dual boot more a virtual machine
[02:23] <PatrickDickey> KickStarRabbit: Either VMWare PLayer, or Virtualbox works. I used VMWare Player last week.
[02:24] <Vivekananda> hi everyone, is -p the same as --prefix ? Also what does it do . also how do I find out more about this particular ( and other options from cli ) ?
[02:24] <jevon_> or wubi
[02:24] <KickStarRabbit> whats more solid/stable
[02:24] <Vivekananda> I am trying to do mkdir -p
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> i tried virtaulbox but the performance was poor...granted on a older labtop
[02:25] <lovethecode> mkdir --help or man mkdir? Viv
[02:25] <PatrickDickey> KickStarRabbit: I'd say they're about the same. VMWare Player is owned and operated by VMWare, and Virtualbox is operated by Oracle now.
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> i will try again with new toshiba
[02:25] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: have been using virtual box here on different systems for years and never had serious problems (occasional GPU acceleration issues or something)
[02:25] <PatrickDickey> Which toshiba KickStarRabbit?
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> i would prefer open source
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> i dont have the model in front of me
[02:25] <KickStarRabbit> lets just call it *new lol
[02:25] <wafflejock> nothing serious or show stopping for me
[02:26] <PatrickDickey> lol Gottcha. I just bought one last weekend. Satellite C55Dt-A5244.
[02:26] <KickStarRabbit> so I would like to contribute...any suggestions
[02:27] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: contribute to what?
[02:27] <KickStarRabbit> ubunto
[02:27] <KickStarRabbit> i applied for membership
[02:27] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: filing bugs is probably helpful if you aren't a dev
[02:27] <KickStarRabbit> and one of the sectiosn for the IRC is contribute
[02:28] <gustav___> Waah. My wireless won't connect. It says it's the wrong password but I'm copying the password from the router.
[02:28] <KickStarRabbit> ok
[02:28] <PatrickDickey> KickStarRabbit: Just help out wherever and whenever you can. ;)
[02:28] <wafflejock> otherwise just hanging out here and helping people out is good to do where you can
[02:28] <boern> look thats strange: http://www7.pic-upload.de/07.12.13/c9rwhuasd6q.png and then: http://www7.pic-upload.de/07.12.13/n1hw1wsx8azv.png
[02:28] <jevon_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU
[02:28] <KickStarRabbit> ok sounds good
[02:28] <PatrickDickey> gustav___: Are you using the right type of encryption? WEP, WPA, WPA-2?
[02:28] <boern> apt-get install -f is not working
[02:29] <gustav___> PatrickDickey: Yes.
[02:29] <KickStarRabbit> so I am at work on corp computer with restricted install but can I run a mini ubu release on thumb drive
[02:29] <KickStarRabbit> or maybe an external
[02:29] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532892/
[02:30] <Beldar> boern, can you descrfibe the issue to the channel not all of us will click on anything.
[02:31] <boern> Yes, evertime i want to install new software or updates i get an error that the package system is broken
[02:32] <Beldar> boern, pastebin sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <Rayhai> Hey, what do you guys think is the best 2556-bit AES encryption software that works on ubuntu?
[02:33] <jevon_> KickStarRabbit: did u check QEMU?
[02:33] <KickStarRabbit> can you send link
[02:33] <jevon_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU
[02:33] <Rayhai> 256-git*
[02:33] <Rayhai> bit*
[02:34] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532901/
[02:34] <Rayhai> (gah. I suck at typing)
[02:34] <kryto> Ubuntu been very very good to me, I love my Ubuntu2
[02:34] <KickStarRabbit> http://wiki.qemu.org/Main_Page
[02:35] <Beldar> boern, You might notice your command was incorrect sudo apt-get -f install is correct try that
[02:36] <Beldar> boern, then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:36] <KickStarRabbit> is there a cert for ubuntu
[02:36] <KickStarRabbit> like a cisco ccna
[02:36] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: not that I'm aware of Comptia might have something though
[02:37] <jevon_> i dunno, but qemu was working fine forme
[02:37] <KickStarRabbit> i know redhat had one
[02:37] <boern> look its not working: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532912/
[02:37] <Beldar> boern, You seem to have 3rd party repos going, this PPA's?
[02:37] <KickStarRabbit> i will try qemu this weekend
[02:37] <KickStarRabbit> i like win8 but its not unix
[02:37] <wafflejock> KickStarRabbit: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntucert apparently they do
[02:38] <boern> yes but how do i find the right one to delete?
[02:40] <Beldar> boern, generally you add them one at a tome and run a update and install what is needed and look for errors than, you will need to look at the errors and go through what they provide and run a ppa-purge on the broken one. PPA's have to be carefully used.
[02:40] <fishcooker> i've tried knoppix as live cd to my box, the wireless card work well, but when i install ubuntu it cant .. it is based on AR242X.. it used ath5k as driver
[02:41] <Beldar> boern, Really don't use a ppa unless you know its safe, or are forced to.
[02:41] <wafflejock> boern: as Beldar explains you should be sure to add comments if you manually add PPAs to remind yourself what they are for and where they come from, you should also be careful because any updates to source pushed to the PPA will be brought down to your system
[02:42] <boern> so what if i remove all PPAs from "other software"?
[02:42] <boern> they are all uncheckt
[02:42] <boern> unchecked*
[02:43] <KickStarRabbit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[02:43] <Vivekananda> on unity I tried to "send a window down" but now I cannot find which worspace it is in . is there a way to look for it ?
[02:44] <KickStarRabbit> secure boot killed the dual boot
[02:45] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | boern this is how you remove them.
[02:46] <boern> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge?
[02:46] <Beldar> boern, read the link it gives ful instructions
[02:47] <Beldar> the bot info and link
[02:47] <boern> ok thats fine, but i dont know WHICH  ppa i have to remove..
[02:48] <Beldar> boern, We don;t know you installed them.
[02:48] <Beldar> !ppa | boern
[02:49] <Beldar> boern, We can try to help, however some of this is you figuring it out.
[02:49] <boern> i havent installed any ppas as far as i know^^
[02:49] <boern> but there is an error message about a linux image
[02:50] <pfifo> hello ubuntu
[02:50] <wafflejock> !wireless > fishcooker
[02:50] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532966/
[02:50] <boern> look, this is the thing
[02:50] <boern> and i dont unterstand how to fix it x)
[02:51] <Beldar> boern, run this command and pastebin the info. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[02:51] <siganderson> today I powered on my pc and the ubuntu entry with secure boot disappeared... I did not any update; is it ever happened?
[02:52] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6532971/
[02:53] <pfifo> boern: run `sudo apt-get clean` and retry whatever you were trying todo
[02:54] <boern> still eroor
[02:54] <boern> error
[02:54] <pfifo> boern: can you pastebin the error from that then
[02:54] <Beldar> boern, You are missing some repos and the last 4 lines in that paste are 3rd party repos.
[02:54] <boern> yes thats from steam and from chrome
[02:54] <boern> but i havent added them
[02:54] <boern> just installed the .deb file
[02:55] <boern> which repos are missing?
[02:55] <pfifo> siganderson: whats the problem?
[02:55] <Beldar> boern, sure but any ine can be part of the problem, here is a repo generator http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[02:55] <Beldar> one*
[02:55] <Vivekananda> I have a window ( firefox ) still working but not visible on any desktop. how do I view it ?
[02:56] <siganderson> pfifo, the problem is that I can't boot anymore with secure boot. Only normal boot
[02:56] <boern> Beldar: so just checkmark everything?
[02:56] <Beldar> boern, YOU can make a new genral repo list and remove the ubuntu repos from the softwrae.list and replace it with one generated there to start with.
[02:56] <fishcooker> there is no atheros ar542x or ar242x wafflejock
[02:56] <gustav___> gnome-control-panel's wifi section doesn't work. Any other tool I should use?
[02:57] <Beldar> boern, not sure of your question.
[02:58] <boern> Beldar: wouldnt it be easier to add the missing ones manually?
[02:58] <Jdawg78> Hey, what's new?
[02:58] <boern> i mean, which one are missing??
[02:59] <boern> i havent removed any
[02:59] <Beldar> boern, No not really, but if you want to generate a list from that site and pick through what your missing your welcome to, I have a feeling your not understanding in general.
[03:00] <wafflejock> fishcooker: Googling about the card looks like madwifi worked for others
[03:00] <pfifo> boern: in my opinion you have all you need; Beldar you better be specific about whats missing
[03:01] <boern> Beldar: you are right, i really dont understand it.. this is why im asking x) this problem appierd and i dont know  why
[03:02] <Beldar> pfifo, All one needs to do is build a correct list from the site I posted and replace the the sources list, if you want to pick through your welcome to, that is just a start of the problem the other is broken packages.
[03:02] <miceiken> hello i just wanted to let you know i really like this linux distro
[03:03] <pvl1> i need some guidance in getting scripts to run at startup
[03:03] <gustav___> miceiken: Why do you like it?
[03:04] <boern> 'Error: BrokenCount>0'. This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies.
[03:06] <pfifo> boern: whats your original issue?
[03:06] <boern> pfifo: i cant install software and updates
[03:07] <boern> http://www7.pic-upload.de/07.12.13/cio68vmudfjw.png
[03:07] <pfifo> boern: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[03:08] <Romance> why do i need a sudo to unmount flashdisk using Disks but not from terminal
[03:09] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6533013/
[03:09] <boern> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[03:09] <boern> this wont work..
[03:10] <Romance> boern: yes use -f
[03:10] <boern> im really helpless with this i dont know what it is xD  im not a super geek, i just want it to work xD
[03:10] <boern> it wont work
[03:10] <pfifo> boern: pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get install -f`
[03:11] <Guest50277> Hi everybody, I've installed xubuntu on a flash drive; it's working.. except the ethernet. I've tried a few tutorials online, but without any luck.
[03:11] <Guest50277> I've gone though a few things online like setting a static ip in the /etc/network/interfaces. It tells me that the host is unreachable if I try to ping anything.
[03:11] <Guest50277> It doesn't seem to want to work with dhcp either.
[03:11] <Guest50277> Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
[03:11] <FloodBot1> Guest50277: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <Guest50277> ok.
[03:11] <teknix_> Can someone help me get started mining litecoins?
[03:11] <Ben64> teknix_: not in this channel, try to find a litecoin channel
[03:11] <Guest50277> sorry, first time.. ;)
[03:12] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6533021/ looks good, maby reboot??
[03:12] <pvl1> Guest50277: does it show up in ifconfig
[03:12] <boern> upps to much..
[03:12] <Romance> Guest50277: cant ping mean its dns issue, what is your /etc/resolv.conf say
[03:12] <Guest50277> not if its dchp, but it it's static it does.
[03:13] <Ben64> Romance: can't ping does not mean dns problem
[03:13] <boern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6533025/ so thats right..
[03:13] <Guest50277> the resolve.conf changes depending on the settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:13] <pfifo> boern: now run `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` and no, rebooting isnt the fix for anything in linux
[03:13] <pvl1> Guest50277: that shouldnt matter. it should show up in ifconfig no matter what
[03:13] <Guest50277> i've tried to use the gateway, and <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:13] <randolph`> I'm using ubuntu 13.10 on gnome 3.10 and I'm trying to get the panel to work with touch input from my touch screen. works on fedora but doesn't work on ubuntu
[03:14] <pvl1> pfifo: boern ive brokem more things rebooting in linux than fix
[03:14] <pfifo> pvl1: i dont think thats supposed to happen either
[03:14] <Guest50277> pvl1: It does show up in ifconfig, but it doesn't have an ip with dhcp.
[03:14] <boern> uh its working XD
[03:15] <pvl1> pfifo: nvidea and ati drivers after kernel updates
[03:15] <boern> it does a lot XD
[03:15] <hylian> hello all
[03:15] <pfifo> boern: the 'sudo apt-get update' fixed it, you were out of date
[03:15] <boern> what exactly is "`sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?^^
[03:15] <Romance> Guest50277: how about ip addr
[03:15] <Guest50277> Romance: it ip addr a command?
[03:16] <pvl1> Guest50277: ok so the system recognizes it. how are you trying to get an ip over dhcp
[03:16] <pfifo> !dist-upgrade | boern
[03:16] <Romance> Guest50277: yes, `ip addr`
[03:16] <hylian> boern: it updates kernel fixes and other major distrobution security fixes.
[03:16] <boern> ok
[03:16] <boern> the error is gone :OO
[03:16] <boern> wow
[03:16] <boern> thank you ;O
[03:16] <pfifo> pvl1: manually installed? the ubuntu installer rebuilds them (or atleasty it used to)
[03:17] <Guest50277> pvl1: I've set the setting in /etc/network/interfaes to eth0 auto.. etch. inet dhcp to try to get a dhcp address.
[03:17] <pvl1> pfifo: manually
[03:17] <Guest50277> Romance: I will check.
[03:17] <pfifo> pvl1: well you should have known =p
[03:17] <boern> thank you guys for help! i ll leave u its 4 am in austria XD
[03:17] <pvl1> Guest50277: set it all to dhcp settings in the file. from terminal run dhclient -v eth0
[03:17] <Guest50277> pvl1: I'm starting the computer now to look at exact settings.
[03:18] <pvl1> pfifo: more about remebering at this point
[03:18] <Guest50277> pvl1: ok, I've tried running dhclient, but it just keeps running.. will try again now.
[03:20] <tiox> Is it possible to run a standalone Compiz session and have everything work out in Ubuntu?
[03:20] <pvl1> Guest50277: with the -v flag
[03:20] <tiox> Because I have everything set up for the most part, but there's obviously something wrong with my xsession.
[03:21] <pvl1> tiox: what makes you so sure
[03:22] <articsun> join #linux-india
[03:22] <articsun> darn
[03:22] <articsun> darn client
[03:22] <tiox> Because nothing works.
[03:22] <Guest50277> Romance: there is no ip address that comes up for eth0 with the ip addr command
[03:22] <Guest50277> pvl1: running dhclient now, with -v
[03:22] <hylian> where would I put a wish for the ubuntu unity team to make a light weight (like atleast as light as xfce) unity version? (not unity-2d, that is not the solution, imho)..??
[03:22] <tiox> I cannot log out via Avant Window Navigator, and CCSM refuses to keep some settings, such as desktop configuration.
[03:23] <pfifo> hylian: no need, mir is on the way
[03:23] <pvl1> Guest50277: what are you seeing
[03:23] <hylian> pfifo: and that will lighten up unity? I hope so.
[03:24] <Guest50277> pvl1: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 3.. 8..12
[03:24] <pfifo> hylian: mir is going to be very lightweight (but may be buggy at first (help test))
[03:24] <Guest24676> ?
[03:24] <hylian> pfifo: sounds great... any way to start using mir + unity now?
[03:24] <tiox> Should I replace gnome-settings-daemon with something else in my xsession file?
[03:24] <pvl1> pfifo: im def jumping on that
[03:25] <pvl1> Guest50277: and your saying it works on a different disro
[03:25] <tiox> I'm running 13.10 BTW
[03:25] <pvl1> Guest50277: change your hostname to something that has worked
[03:25] <Guest50277> pvl1: no, this is the first time I've tried to install it.
[03:26] <pfifo> hylian: actually yes, saucy supports everything. help test, and file bugs, http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/
[03:26] <tiox> BRB, going to do some fuss with CCSM in my default session.
[03:26] <tiox> (Bad idea but I back everything up.)
[03:26] <hylian> pfifo: hmm, maybe later. I am a lts user... I am on 12.04 right now.
[03:27] <Guest50277> pvl1: I know that there is an internet connection though..
[03:27] <pvl1> Guest50277: has it ever worked on this device
[03:27] <pvl1> Guest50277: can you private msg me please
[03:27] <Guest50277> pvl1: no
[03:27] <azio_m> why i can't see the folders under /home when booting into shell safe mode? I need to delete /home/myuser/.fonts
[03:27] <tiox> Interesting -- <Super>S shows only one desktop.
[03:27] <hylian> thanks for the help pfifo, i'm out.
[03:28] <xangua> azio_m: because .font is a directory or /home/youruser , not /home
[03:28] <xangua> ooh that
[03:29] <tiox> Alright, seems to have fixed the use of expo, it's just odd my settings don't appear to stick in CCSM.
[03:29] <azio_m> xangua: what do you mean?
[03:29] <Guest15643> hi what up
[03:29] <pfifo> azio_m: perhaps you need to mount the home partition on /home
[03:30] <tiox> Cube works too. But when I log into my standalone session, nothing is saved. Hrmm.
[03:31] <azio_m> pfifo: sudo mount /home returns: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/myuser/tty1: Read-only file system
[03:31] <lucasredsn0w> Anyone can help me?
[03:31] <lucasredsn0w> I've got problem installing ubuntu 13.10 on my notebook
[03:32] <hdon> hi all :) i'd like to use kde4 on ubuntu 12.04. i have it installed, i think. but it doesn't appear as an option in lightdm. can anyone help?
[03:32] <lucasredsn0w> hdon: something must be missing
[03:32] <lucasredsn0w> check your packages
[03:32] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, any idea which packages?
[03:32] <hdon> i suspect one of them must provide a file to lightdm which tells it about kde4
[03:33] <hdon> but i'm unfamiliar with lightdm
[03:33] <pfifo> azio_m: mount / as read-write `sudo mount -o remount,rw /` then try again
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> i dont know
[03:33] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, thanks anyhow. someone else may know
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> if I want to use KDE i will download Kubuntu
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> hdon: I've even got problem installing ubuntu
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> any idea?
[03:33] <lucasredsn0w> My notebook is Lenovo Y410
[03:34] <lucasredsn0w> Core i5 edition
[03:34] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, i'm sorry i don't understand your question
[03:34] <lucasredsn0w> okay I will explain
[03:34] <lucasredsn0w> I tried to boot ubuntu in my Live USB stick
[03:34] <lucasredsn0w> And I used UEFI boot, SecureBoot off
[03:35] <lucasredsn0w> And after grub init, the screen is black
[03:35] <lucasredsn0w> And it stucked there
[03:35] <Beldar> lucasredsn0w, use nicks and consolidate the posts please.
[03:35] <hdon> oh my... i'm afraid i don't know much about UEFI except that it intends to make it difficult to boot anything not crypto signed by some security regime somewhere
[03:36] <lucas> I'll use my nick
[03:36]  * hdon nods
[03:36] <lucas> oh its registered
[03:36] <ubunboy> okay thats good
[03:36] <hdon> heh
[03:36] <ubunboy> .nod
[03:37] <ubunboy> Is there any expert?
[03:37] <Beldar> lucas, excellent the data spread across probably over at least 12 posts and you change your nick, I meant if your talking to someone else tab complete their nick.
[03:37] <hdon> ubunboy, if i might ask, how did you select "uefi boot" or "secureboot" ?
[03:37] <ubunboy> okay
[03:37] <JesseH> I tried to run a game recently, and it said "Couldn't find matching GLX visual". I think its because i broke a package somewhere. any ideas?
[03:37] <ubunboy> hdon, I turned the UEFI boot on and turned the SecureBoot off
[03:38] <hdon> JesseH, please pastebin the output of glxinfo run from a terminal emulator in your X environment
[03:38] <Beldar> !uefi | ubunboy
[03:38] <ubunboy> JesseH, can you tell me your GPU model?
[03:38] <hdon> ubunboy, where/how did you do that?
[03:38] <ubunboy> hdon, simply press F2
[03:38] <hdon> ubunboy, if glx is working for JesseH that info will be available in his glx info paste
[03:39] <hdon> glxinfo*
[03:39] <JesseH> name of display: :0
[03:39] <JesseH> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[03:39] <JesseH> Didnt pastebin, too small for that :P
[03:39] <ubunboy> JesseH, could you use paste.ubuntu.com ?
[03:39] <ubunboy> I've got problem acessing pastebin
[03:39] <hdon> ubunboy, ah, i did not know. what are the meanings of the different options? i assume uefi is supposed to be uefi signed or has a workaround.. what is secureboot?
[03:39] <ubunboy> network issues
[03:40] <ubunboy> SecureBoot is a protection that keeps other OS away from the computer
[03:40] <JesseH> hdon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6533103/
[03:40] <hdon> JesseH, ah ok. what gpu do you have?
[03:40] <ubunboy> But I've already turned it off!
[03:40] <ubunboy> JesseH, using BumBlebee?
[03:40] <hdon> ubunboy, hmm.. how does it do that? (feel free to ignore me, i'm not being helpful, just curious)
[03:41] <JesseH> What is bumbebee?
[03:41] <ubunboy> Some NV GPUs will have this problem if bumblebee is not correctly installed
[03:41] <hdon> JesseH, do you know the GPU in your machine? use lspci | grep VGA to find i believe
[03:41] <articsun> hey
[03:41] <ubunboy> JesseH, something like Nvidia Optimus, but it is available in linux OS
[03:41] <JesseH> "Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD graphics card"
[03:41] <JesseH> :P
[03:41] <ubunboy> Oh that's an old GPU
[03:42] <hdon> JesseH, that's not a great GPU but it's better than nothing
[03:42] <JesseH> I ran the game like, 2 days ago.
[03:42] <hdon> anyone know the proper kernel module or package for JesseH ?
[03:42] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, I don't know too much about kernel
[03:42] <hdon> JesseH, did you do any kind of system maintenance like updates or add/remove packages?
[03:42] <JesseH> hdon, oh yeah lol
[03:43] <JesseH> I was clumsy and ignorant about it and broke something i think. :P
[03:44] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, the Ubuntu font is really wonderful
[03:44] <CreamedChicken> Hello! I installed Xubuntu a while ago. There is audio playing a youtube video, but I cannot adjust the volume using the applet.
[03:45] <hdon> JesseH, it happens, especially on ubuntu. ubuntu is very easy for 90% of users, but then 10% who thought it would be easy get stuck because they aren't very experienced. it's okay, i hope someone can help you. i'm googling a little bit, but haven't found anything.
[03:45] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, hm?
[03:45] <lucasredsn0w> CreamedChicken, driver missing?
[03:45] <lucasredsn0w> I mean the font on ubuntu
[03:45] <CreamedChicken> I don't think so, I said, it played audio.
[03:45] <JesseH> hdon, dont think ill ever be experienced enough not to make errors :P
[03:45] <hdon> CreamedChicken, youtube video playing in flash player?
[03:46] <lucasredsn0w> try to change a browser or player
[03:46] <hdon> JesseH, true, nobody is that experienced
[03:46] <CreamedChicken> hdon, yup, it's playing in flash player. There is audio. I just can't adjust it.
[03:46] <hdon> CreamedChicken, that seems odd but flash if proprietary and difficult to say where the problem is unless the solution is already known
[03:47] <CreamedChicken> one sec, it's not an issue with flash
[03:47] <pvl1> pfifo: i cant use mir with official drivers?
[03:47] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, if you know my IP address you may find something
[03:48] <lucasredsn0w> try to WHOIS me
[03:48] <hdon> err.... ok
[03:48] <hdon> i think freenode will not give me your IP though
[03:48] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, you may find my IP location strange
[03:48] <hdon> oh it did
[03:49] <lucasredsn0w> is it starts with 112?
[03:50] <CreamedChicken> http://i.imgur.com/2utOZEy.png
[03:50] <CreamedChicken> There, I drew an arrow.
[03:50] <hdon> yes. no reverse host resolution, assuming i did that right.
[03:50] <hdon> chinese IP?
[03:50] <CreamedChicken> When I click on it, it's just a little white box. No volume slider.
[03:50] <lucasredsn0w> yeah...
[03:51] <hdon> CreamedChicken, oh when you said applet
[03:51] <hdon> CreamedChicken, i thought you meant in flash player
[03:51] <lucasredsn0w> CreamedChicken, seems the applet is broken
[03:51] <hdon> CreamedChicken, you might try restarting the process for the volume control
[03:51] <lucasredsn0w> have you tried restarting the computer?
[03:52] <CreamedChicken> Nope, guess I'll do that.
[03:52] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, how many hops are you to <IP_ADDRESS>? are you behind a proxy?
[03:52] <lucasredsn0w> nope
[03:53] <lucasredsn0w> The network provider did something strange
[03:53] <lucasredsn0w> I dont know either
[03:54] <pfifo> pvl1: no, mir is designed for open source drivers
[03:55] <CreamedChicken> Nope, same problem.
[03:56] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, how did you make the determination that your IP was weird?
[03:56] <Anonymous> is plv1 still around?
[03:56] <hdon> CreamedChicken, try alsamixer from terminal
[03:56] <hdon> arrow keys, control+c to exit
[03:57] <lucasredsn0w> Because I cannot map my ports
[03:57] <Anonymous> Romance: do you think you might be able to help me out. I got disconnected from plv1. ( or someone else )
[03:58] <Anonymous> when i ping <IP_ADDRESS> it comes from <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:58] <CreamedChicken> http://i.imgur.com/c7H7lMh.png What do I want to adjust?
[03:58] <Anonymous> destination host unreachable.
[03:58] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, the last 10 hops that responded to my trace were all china. according to maxmind.com geoip database, that is. what's weird is the hop from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>. it goes straight from centurylink (my ISP) to "China Unicom Liaoning
[03:59] <hdon> Anonymous, that's because your routing table hasn't been configured
[03:59] <lucasredsn0w> Because I'am really in China
[03:59] <hdon> Anonymous, please do ifconfig command and pastebin results
[03:59] <lucasredsn0w> But our network provider will connect us to multiple networks
[03:59] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, ah, heh. still i didn't know there was a direct route from my ISP to a chinese backbone
[03:59] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.. I'm probably going to have to type it by hand.
[03:59] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, that's very nice. in case on one of them is peering poorly
[03:59] <hdon> Anonymous, no
[04:00] <hdon> Anonymous, do you know how to copy and paste from terminal to your web browser?
[04:00] <lucasredsn0w> There're multiple route from America to China
[04:00] <hdon> Anonymous, please go to http://pastebin.mozilla.org/ and paste the output of ifconfig into the box and hit Send, then give us the link to your "online paste"
[04:00] <Anonymous> hdon: i can't connect to the web from the computer i need to run ifconfig.
[04:00] <CreamedChicken> So what do I want to adjust in alsamixer? This is what it looks like: (Quit:
[04:00] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, ofc, but i'm pretty far south, i assumed all the transpacific connections were pretty far north, farther north than my ISP went
[04:01] <CreamedChicken> Oops, it's http://i.imgur.com/c7H7lMh.png
[04:01] <hdon> Anonymous, ohhh, of course, sorry
[04:01] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, there are multiple direct routes
[04:01] <lucasredsn0w> And those routes are everywhere
[04:01] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, amazing
[04:02] <hdon> Anonymous, do you have maybe a digital camera phone or something?
[04:02] <hdon> Anonymous, or a USB stick you could use to transfer the paste?
[04:02] <hdon> i don't know how to make this easier, hmmmm....
[04:02] <Anonymous> hdon: I can copy to a usb
[04:02] <Anonymous> :)
[04:02] <hdon> Anonymous, ok. also include then the output of route -n, and iwconfig if you're using wireless networking
[04:02] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.  brb
[04:03] <lucasredsn0w> hdon,  if there aren't these routes I won't be able to upload my files to America in several MB/S
[04:03] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, you mean DOWNLOAD AMERICAN FILES you chinese cyberspy!
[04:03] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, (i'm kidding)
[04:03] <lucasredsn0w> i know
[04:03] <lucasredsn0w> lol
[04:03] <lucasredsn0w> I mean uploading, not dowloading
[04:04] <lucasredsn0w> I'm not a spy at all
[04:04] <lucasredsn0w> hah
[04:04] <SuperVeg_> I got that super monkey swag, super free flow yo
[04:05] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, I use mega.co.nz to share files between countries
[04:05] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, i thought they got shut down
[04:05] <hdon> err.. i'm thinking of megaupload
[04:05] <lucasredsn0w> you mean mega？
[04:05] <hdon> yes but i was thinking of megaupload
[04:06] <lucasredsn0w> Let me see
[04:06] <hdon> megaupload/megavideo/megawhatever i think they had a bunch of websites for sharing files running on the same backend
[04:06] <hdon> where are you from lucasredsn0w ?
[04:06] <lucasredsn0w> Shanghai
[04:06] <lucasredsn0w> lol
[04:06] <hdon> oh, cool
[04:07] <hdon> the only person i ever spoke to in china was a friend of mine who went there to work from here in US
[04:07] <CreamedChicken> What should I do in alsamixer?
[04:07] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, do you have problem understanding my English?
[04:07] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, not at all, that's why i asked where you were from. your english is perfect
[04:08] <Payton> Ok so I have installed ubuntu but now it is running slowly :(
[04:08] <lucasredsn0w> By the way, although my new computer is fast, but I cannot install ubuntu on it :(
[04:08] <hdon> Payton, are you on unity desktop?
[04:08] <Anonymous> hdon: is there somewhere i can paste a photo.. the usb still isn't working for some reason.. :/
[04:09] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, :(
[04:09] <Payton> hdon: ?
[04:09] <Payton> hdon: I'm new to ubuntu..
[04:09] <hdon> Anom01y, i don't know... maybe imgur?
[04:09] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.
[04:09] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, can you tell me your mailbox or something other? so we can be friend
[04:09] <hdon> Payton, never used the shell in another *nix OS like mac os x, solaris, linux?
[04:10] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, /msg'd
[04:10] <Payton> hdon: I have used Mac os x but everything was pre setup for me
[04:10] <lucasredsn0w> i see
[04:10] <hdon> Payton, ok, i think the default keyboard shortcut to launch a terminal emulator is Control+Shift+T
[04:10] <hdon> Payton, when you get the command line, don't be intimidated. this is a place where you can enter commands.
[04:11] <hdon> Payton, oh sorry
[04:11] <pvl1> my mousepad isnt coming up in lspci, where can i see what mousepad my laptop has
[04:11] <hdon> Payton, i forgot i wanted to know if you were using unity
[04:11] <Payton> hdon: I know I have used the linux terminal xD
[04:11] <hdon> Payton, ah ok
[04:11] <hdon> Payton, does your desktop have a "dock" on the left-hand side and a bar along the top with menu/widgets ?
[04:11] <Payton> hdon: Yes
[04:12] <hdon> Payton, the "dock" is supposed to work like the one on mac os x, so at least that will be familiar to you
[04:12] <Anonymous> hdon: http://imgur.com/Z0oUlXd
[04:12] <hdon> Payton, this is the unity desktop. it's not everyone's favorite but it is the default. anyhow it means you can install a particular widget onto the top menu bar that will tell you about the resource utilization of your machine
[04:12] <Payton> hdon: Yes, i am familiar to the ubuntu OS
[04:12] <Anonymous> hdon: it appears as if it is not correct. lol.
[04:13] <Payton> hdon: Just need to speed this CPU up
[04:13] <hdon> Anonymous, very nice pic. i was worried it would be blurry. this is what i expected to see. does your LAN use DHCP?
[04:13] <stevie_man> I have a 10.10 server and I am trying to install squid. When I do a apt-get install squid I get this as the result E: Unable to locate package squid
[04:13] <stevie_man> . I've tried apt-get update, apt-get clean the update. Anything else I can try?
[04:13] <hdon> Payton, it may not be the CPU, we must diagnose what the bottleneck is
[04:13] <Anonymous> hdon: yes, it does.
[04:14] <hdon> Anonymous, you may want to try to run "dhclient eth0" to see if that establishes a dhcp lease from your dhcp server (probably on your LAN appliance) and sets up your routing table
[04:14] <Payton> hdon: What would you suppose it is?
[04:14] <hdon> Anonymous, it could take up to a minute in my experience to get a dhcp lease
[04:15] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, see private messages
[04:15] <hdon> Payton, in my experience CPU is not the bottleneck. usually it is RAM and/or HDD access
[04:15] <Anonymous> hdon: ok, I'll try it.
[04:15] <Payton> hdon: I have set it to 20GB because I'm only using it for programming.
[04:15] <Payton> 20GB HHD
[04:16] <Payton> hdon: and 6GB RAM of my 12GB RAM PC
[04:16] <hdon> Anonymous, if it succeeds, you can run ifconfig and route -n again to see if your eth0 got an address and that your routing table has been altered. then try to ping your LAN appliance with ping command followed by the address of the LAN appliance (a good guess is that it's the same as the IP address you get from DHCP but with the last byte a 1)
[04:16] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, email sent
[04:17] <hdon> lucasredsn0w, cool :) i will check my email in a little while
[04:17] <hdon> Payton, you have it set to 20GB? you mean you partition 20GB for your ubuntu install?
[04:17] <lucasredsn0w> okay
[04:17] <Payton> hdon: Yes.
[04:17] <hdon> Payton, ah, that will not cause a slow-down
[04:17] <lucasredsn0w> Payton, that's too small I think
[04:17] <hdon> Payton, what i mean is, HDD access, reading and writing
[04:17] <lucasredsn0w> at least 30GB
[04:18] <Anonymous> hdon: ok
[04:18] <lucasredsn0w> If you install a lot of stuff you will be short of disk spaces
[04:18] <Payton> lucasredsn0w: Alright, I need to go into the iso and re partition...
[04:18] <hdon> Payton, lucasredsn0w: my ubuntu is installed on only 14GB and it's enough for Ubuntu 12.04 but i wish i had made it twice as large because it needs more space to upgrade, haha
[04:18] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, that's what I mean
[04:18] <Payton> I am running 13.10 :o
[04:19] <hdon> i have no estimation of 13.10's HDD capacity requirements
[04:19] <lucasredsn0w> Payton, no need for re=partitioning
[04:19] <lucasredsn0w> "-“
[04:19] <hdon> but anyhow this is not the focus of the problem
[04:19] <john_doe_jr> I need some advice…my boss has a svn server set up but I don't know the name of it…I can use team viewer to get to my work computer and therefore on my companies network…how would I search for the domain name of the svn server while on our network?
[04:19] <tiox> I sorrt of got my session working. Do I necessarily need to be logged into a GNOME session to get the GNOME system indicators like volume, battery and so on, or is there a special thing I can add into my xsession to make them work?
[04:19] <hdon> Payton, let me get you the name of the package...
[04:19] <Payton> lucasredsn0w: What should I do :P
[04:19] <Payton> hdon: Alright
[04:19] <lucasredsn0w> Payton, just use GParted
[04:19] <tiox> If not the xsession startup script, the .desktop files.
[04:19] <hdon> Payton, install indicator-multiload
[04:19] <lucasredsn0w> and shrink spaces from other partition
[04:20] <lucasredsn0w> GParted is strong enough to do that job
[04:20] <lucasredsn0w> "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[04:20] <hdon> Payton, if it does not automatically show up (it doesn't for me, but others report it does automatically) you can run it from the Unity runner somehow or from a terminal emulator
[04:20] <hdon> Payton, oh or from the run dialog, alt+f2
[04:20] <Payton> I have GParted
[04:20] <Anonymous> hdon: it's still.. well.. doing nothing. lol.
[04:20] <lucasredsn0w> try to use it
[04:20] <tiox> I've followed webupd8's guide on how to make a standalone compiz session.
[04:21] <tiox> Just some things missing, namely, the system indicators; Are the indicators separate programs running in the background?
[04:22] <hdon> Anonymous, so dhclient did not make any changes to the output of ifconfig or route -n ?
[04:22] <Anonymous> it finally gave me a command prompt again.. but ifconfig shows no ip address
[04:22] <Anonymous> let me check th route -n
[04:23] <Anonymous> hdon: still the same in ifconfig and route -n
[04:23] <lucasredsn0w> hdon, private messages has been sent to you
[04:23] <hdon> Anonymous, hmm... check the cable!
[04:24] <Anonymous> Just a quick thanks to everyone on this channel providing help!
[04:25] <Anonymous> hdon: lol.. i'm *pretty* sure it works, we use it everyday to run another server. I will try to find another one really quick though.. because.. you never know.
[04:25] <hdon> Anonymous, it's convenient to have a tester around
[04:26] <hdon> Anonymous, what type of LAN appliance out of curiosity? and also what type of NIC on the machine running ubuntu?
[04:27] <Anonymous> hdon: just plugged the cable back into our VOIP box, and made a call.. works. :)
[04:28] <hdon> too bad. that would have been an easy fix
[04:28] <Anonymous> hdon: LAN appliance? the router? Its a qwest.. something..
[04:28] <Anonymous> hdon: the NIC is built into the board.
[04:28] <hdon> Anonymous, i say "LAN appliance" because it probably performs many functions in one.. obviously it routes, and runs a DHCP server at the very least, maybe even integrated modem?
[04:29] <hdon> Anonymous, if you use lspci | grep Ethernet
[04:29] <hdon> Anonymous, you can see the exact NIC
[04:29] <stevie_man> ok, apparently I can't install anything using apt-get
[04:29] <hdon> stevie_man, you'll have to elaborate
[04:30] <stevie_man> everything I try to install ends up reporting E: Unable to locate package
[04:30] <stevie_man> Everything I read says I need to upgrade because 10.10 is no longer supported
[04:31] <stevie_man> I can't even install update-manager-core to do an upgrade
[04:31] <cfhowlett> stevie_man, download the iso, clean install.
[04:31] <stevie_man> It's a server, I don't have access to it
[04:31] <cfhowlett> stevie_man, download the iso and do a PXE ?
[04:31] <stevie_man> I've never done that.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> and install a LTS version: 12.04 for now.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !pxe
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !server|stevie_man,
[04:32] <cfhowlett> stevie_man, pretty sure you're neither first nor last with this scenario.  ask in the server channel
[04:33] <Anonymous> hdon: I'm not sure what lspci is, grep Ethernet just hangs the machine up.
[04:33] <stevie_man> cfhowlett: Thanks, there is a server channel? Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks
[04:34] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server
[04:34] <stevie_man> chhowlett: Thanks
[04:34] <cfhowlett> stevie_man, good luck
[04:34] <hdon> Anonymous, if you type "grep Ethernet" it will wait for info on a pipe called "stdin" and will wait indefinitely
[04:35] <kalakjsd> hi all, recently i was using visual studio and learning c#, then someone told me to use PHP, because it is free n fast, i installed geany and read a book, the syntax is almost like C, I need to create a webform application, which can query database and show results,a very simple application, which fetch results from the database, but there is no GUi to create forms just like visual studio, how to do that in ubuntu, if this is not the right place, where to go,
[04:35] <hdon> Anonymous, if its "stdin" is connected to your terminal (as it will be in the case that you've run the command "grep Ethernet") you can send the End Of File signal to cause grep to exit by pressing Control+D
[04:35] <Anonymous> hdon: it seems to be waiting. :)
[04:35] <hdon> Anonymous, also you can generally interrupt a command by pressing Control+C
[04:35] <hdon> Anonymous, lspci is a command that enumerates PCI devices physically installed in your machine.
[04:35] <XHEART24> anyone using 12.04 lts for ipod shuffle?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> kalakjsd, this isn't the programming channel so ... #php
[04:35] <Anonymous> hdon: I think i used control+z to cancel the command
[04:36] <kalakjsd> cfhowlett: thanks
[04:36] <hdon> Anonymous, control+z will put the command to sleep
[04:36] <hdon> Anonymous, if you type the "jobs" shell built-in command in bash, the default ubuntu shell, you will get a list of "sleeping" commands
[04:36] <Anonymous> hdon: good to know!
[04:37] <kalakjsd> cfhowlett: it says joing #php requires a invitation, how do i connect to that specific channel
[04:37] <Anonymous> hdon: the lspci command shows my video cards.. usb controllers.. etc. what should I look for here?
[04:37] <hdon> Anonymous, by using the "pipe" character "|" (on my keyboard it is Shift+Backslash) you can chain two commands together so that the second command reads from the first command
[04:37] <hdon> Anonymous, you do not look, you can have the computer look for you. by using the | character, in a command like this:
[04:38] <hdon> Anonymous, lspci | grep Ethernet
[04:38] <hdon> Anonymous, then you will only see lines from the lspci command which contain the string "Ethernet"
[04:38] <Anonymous> hdon: OHHH!! ok!
[04:39] <Anonymous> hdon: ok, one second, I'll post a pic.
[04:39] <hdon> Anonymous, cool :)
[04:41] <SetiAmon> so is there a way to imrpve wifi I find the linkspeed sucks for some reason
[04:41] <Beldar> SetiAmon, improve; meaning?
[04:42] <Beldar> speed, signal..etc
[04:44] <SetiAmon> well everything frankly
[04:45] <Beldar> SetiAmon, ah excellent a totally vague answer.
[04:45] <SetiAmon> my linkspeed in windows was 600 its about 100 here and only good connection instead of excellent
[04:45] <Anonymous> hdon: http://imgur.com/dZBfUTr
[04:45] <SetiAmon> its a broadcom 4360 based adapter btw
[04:46] <hdon> hmm
[04:47] <jakeharrisjr> Hi does anybody know how to solve blank screen after I choose "Try Ubuntu without Installing" in the GRUB menu
[04:47] <jakeharrisjr> BTW I'm booting from a Live CD
[04:47] <hdon> Anonymous, http://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/
[04:48] <Beldar> !nomodeset | jakeharrisjr
[04:48] <jakeharrisjr> OK thx
[04:49] <hdon> Anonymous, can you do lspci | grep r816 ?
[04:49] <Anonymous> hdon: ok, this looks fun. :)
[04:49] <Anonymous> hdon: yes, one second
[04:50] <Anonymous> hdon: that returned nothing.
[04:50] <hdon> Anonymous, ok, unless i'm mistaken, i believe that implies that you don't have an appropriate driver installed.
[04:51] <hdon> Anonymous, do you have the Ubuntu disk you installed from?
[04:51] <Anonymous> hdon: so I should follow the other instructions to install it, correct?
[04:51] <loganlee> hello
[04:51] <Anonymous> hdon: yes.. I'm not sure if I have a cd drive that will work with the ubuntu machine, but I can copy it over.
[04:52] <Anonymous> hdon: wait.. I installed it from a usb drive.
[04:53] <hdon> Anonymous, usb should work
[04:54] <hdon> Anonymous, try putting in your USB stick, and then
[04:54] <loganlee> what is knoppix based on?
[04:54] <Anonymous> hdon: yes, I have the usb.
[04:54] <hdon> Anonymous, that might help you when you use "apt-get install" without Internet
[04:54] <hdon> Anonymous, try to follow the directions in the link i gave you
[04:54] <hdon> Anonymous, if you have any problems or questions feel free to ask :)
[04:56] <shaft0> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on an Intel NUC DC32171YE, and I can boot to the live environment, but when I try to install, the installation type is blank, I can't select the drive to install to.  I can _see_ the volume, it shows on the desktop as a 32gb volume, but it won't let me install to it.
[04:56] <shaft0> Any ideas?
[04:56] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.
[04:57] <hdon> Anonymous, good luck! i hope is a good learning experience and gets you online!
[04:57] <loganlee> shaft0: try instaling from boot
[04:57] <Beldar> shaft0, Have you checked that ubuntu is even installable on this?
[04:58] <shaft0> Why wouldn't it be?
[04:58] <cfhowlett> shaft0, so that would be a "no"?
[04:59] <stevecam> has anyone had any success install ATI drivers on ubuntu?
[04:59] <cfhowlett> !hardware|shaft0,
[04:59] <Beldar> Beldar, I see a claim of install on it open gparted and see whats there.
[04:59] <pfifo> highlighting yourself?
[05:00] <shaft0> I see it probably has something to do with secure boot
[05:00] <pfifo> loganlee: knoppix is based on debian
[05:01] <Beldar> shaft0, I see a claim of install on it open gparted and see whats there.
[05:01] <loganlee> pfifo: ic
[05:02] <Beldar> pfifo, especially for you, and by the way I asked that user earlier with the broken update to run dist-upgrade and all the commands you asked for.
[05:02] <shaft0> What do you mean Beldar?  Do you have a link to what you're seeing?
[05:02] <stevecam> whenever I install fglrx for my ATI drivers unity just hangs and X tells me its running in low resolution, if i try to build modules from the ati website it just tells me its missing kernel headers
[05:03] <stevecam> which im not
[05:03] <Beldar> shaft0, https://communities.intel.com/thread/40416
[05:03] <pfifo> Beldar: I think you missed the apt-get update, thats the only problem, too bad I didnt have him apt-cache policy linux-image-generic first, we could have actually seen the discrepencay
[05:04] <Beldar> pfifo, I had them tun apt-get update and upgeade and dist-upgrade and show the sources.list and sources.listd
[05:04] <Beldar> run*
[05:05] <loganlee> so...
[05:05] <Beldar> pfifo, They were not really following any help very well and were missing the standard restricted repo is all.
[05:06] <Beldar> as far as I could see, and had several 3rd party repos one ones a game one
[05:06] <Beldar> was*
[05:08] <pfifo> Beldar: no, their line said 'main universe multiverse' for base repo, security, updates and backport, then the 3rd party repos were steam and chrome, neither of wich provide kernels. I think the sources.list was fine
[05:08] <Beldar> pfifo, I think your right looked like it had been messed with is all.
[05:11] <pfifo> Im going to buy a nvidia and a radeon and start specializing in video driver problems
[05:21] <pvl1> anyone know how to make a script run at startup
[05:21] <Sebastien> cron jobs
[05:22] <pvl1> Sebastien: i read that reboot starts it at boot as well... but it doesnt seem to work
[05:26] <hdon> Anonymous, how's it going?
[05:28] <tiox> There's an interesting issue with Avant Window Navigator from awn-testing PPA; Creation of a new dock through AWN settings produces a duplicate dock with the same settings, that cannot be positioned separate from the origin dock.
[05:28] <fixmypc956> ho do I install mediatomb thru command line
[05:29] <cfhowlett> fixmypc956, sudo apt-get install foo.deb is the traditional method
[05:29] <tiox> Since AWN is pretty dormant still (as in, no new release under the 0.4 branch since the new maintainer took over), figured it would be more worthwhile mentioning the issue here.
[05:29] <tiox> Whatever mediatomb is installable as, i.e. sudo apt-get install mediatomb
[05:29] <fixmypc956> foo.deb?
[05:30] <cfhowlett> fixmypc956, "foo.deb" = linux speak for "filename here" + "debian package"
[05:31] <tiox> If that does not work, then sudo apt-get install synaptic, then sudo synaptic to open with root privileges, let the search index rebuld and search "mediatomb"
[05:31] <fixmypc956> I tried sudo apt-get install mediatomb and it dosen work
[05:31] <cfhowlett> fixmypc956, and the error message was ... ?
[05:31] <Anonymous> hdon: ok.. sorry for the delay. it says build-essential has no installation candidate. Is that because it's not connected to the internet?
[05:31] <tiox> If not that, must be available as a personal package archive --  Tye a Google search "mediatomb ppa"
[05:31] <tiox> try*
[05:32] <cfhowlett> tiox, its in the universe repo ...\
[05:33] <hdon> Anonymous, hmm, i would have hoped that was found on the usb stick
[05:33] <tiox> Ah.
[05:33] <tiox> Are you running as a live session, fixmypc956?
[05:33] <hdon> Anonymous, you could download the packages you need manually onto usb and install them from there
[05:33] <hdon> Anonymous, perhaps someone else can tell you how to query apt to find all dependencies of the packages you need, and how to download them manually
[05:34] <hdon> i don't know how exactly to do those
[05:34] <hdon> but it shouldn't be too hard
[05:34] <Anonymous> hdon: ok, i'll give it a shot!
[05:34] <hdon> Anonymous, good luck!
[05:34] <tiox> Also, fixmypc956 terminal commands need to be opened in the terminal -- Package does exist, should work if you either install the system or muck about in software-properties-gtk to enable Universe and Multiverse repositories.
[05:35] <tiox> Need to be executed in the terminal rather.
[05:35] <CarlFK> Anonymous: there is a tool/app to do that.. let me see if I cna find it
[05:35] <Anonymous> CarlFK: thank you sir!
[05:35] <tiox> Also, foo.deb is a bad example for apt, more suited for dpkg.
[05:37] <tiox> Does anyone know how to ger the bluetooth, volume and battery indicators working outside of a GNOME session?
[05:37] <SetiAmon> amazing
[05:37] <SetiAmon> my wifi connection is 1000x better after ditching network manager and installing wicd.
[05:38] <SetiAmon> i don't know why though arn't they just both overlays for wpa supplicant
[05:38] <tiox> nm-applet and related must do other stuff in the background that's suppose to keep a connection up, but is cointer-intuitive on your particular hardware setup.
[05:39] <tiox> counter-intuitive*\
[05:39] <tiox> That's the only explanation I can conjure.
[05:40] <SetiAmon> I remember i had issues with wifi years ago on jaunty and resolved it with wicd also.wicd doesn't look as nice but it is better it seems.
[05:41] <SetiAmon> i got 72 signle strength and much snappier speeds
[05:42] <fixmypc956> im trying to install it on ubuntu server
[05:43] <fixmypc956> I get a bunch of temporary failure
[05:43] <c8> ?
[05:43] <Payton> Beldar: What partitions should I create for the best ubuntu experience?
[05:43] <Payton> And what sizes?
[05:44] <fixmypc956> like its trying to connect to certain urls and it doesnt connect
[05:44] <Junior> yello ;)
[05:44] <c8> can i change the loading screen after booting for pinguy os 12.04?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> !derivative|c8 best to ask in pinguy OS
[05:45] <cfhowlett> !flavors
[05:45] <c8> okay i am not sure how to get there haha thanks
[05:46] <DeepBlue> hi, i have 2 reinstall and i have got the home folder in a separate partition ,how 2 guarantee it will not b overwritten?
[05:47] <cfhowlett> DeepBlue, move it to a /home
[05:47] <CarlFK> Anonymous: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Synaptic/PackageDownloadScript (i think.. not sure how current this is)
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !home|DeepBlue,
[05:47] <cfhowlett> DeepBlue, and make sure you do NOT format that partition during install
[05:47] <Payton> What partitions should I create for the best ubuntu experience?
[05:47] <Payton> And what sizes?
[05:48] <pfifo> Payton: 8GB / and the rest in a seperate partition for /home
[05:48] <DeepBlue> cfhowlett: it's already there
[05:48] <Payton> Ok thanks
[05:48] <cfhowlett> Payton, best?  too many variables to guess at YOUR optimal solutions.  Personally: 12 gigs for /  (root filesystem)   2 X 4 gigs = 8 gigs /swap   and the rest is in /home
[05:49] <cfhowlett> Payton, but YMMV.
[05:49] <c8> is there a benefit to partitions?
[05:50] <c8> why not just one
[05:50] <pfifo> c8: you can format and reinstall, but save your personal files in a second partition
[05:51] <DeepBlue> cfhowlett: if i didn't format this partition,do u think it won't b overwritten?bu i have 2 use the same username
[05:51] <Anonymous> CarlFK: thanks! I'll take a look at it.
[05:51] <CarlFK> Anonymous: good luck - if that doesn't seem right, you know what sorts of things to look for
[05:52] <Guest61244> why such a large Swap location?  isnt 8 gigs alot?
[05:53] <c8> depends on your wallet..
[05:54] <SetiAmon> you think setting up a static ip on my router/wifi adapter is of any benefit
[05:54] <Guest61244> Are all packages from repos installed into your /home directory?
[05:54] <fixmypc956> I get this error, Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' and I have no idea why
[05:55] <pfifo> Guest61244: you need alot of swap to hibernate your system, other than that, most modern computers wont ever use it
[05:55] <fixmypc956> can anyone help with that issue...I even tried sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <fixmypc956> and still the same issue
[05:55] <Payton> cfhowlett: Wait, are you sure, I'm using VBox :P
[05:56] <cfhowlett> DeepBlue, during install you can assign /home to the specified partition.  you need to manually do the partitioning, not the automatic option?
[05:56] <pfifo> fixmypc956: are you connected to the internet?
[05:56] <hje841> How do I get sound through my hdmi cable in Ubuntu 13.10?
[05:56] <fixmypc956> yes
[05:56] <pfifo> fixmypc956: try a different mirror
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Payton, sure of ?  completely forgot what we were doing/  sorry.
[05:56] <fixmypc956> I am connected to it remotely
[05:56] <Payton> cfhowlett: Partitioning
[05:56] <Guest61244> Hibernate system?  As in when closing your laptop while the power is still on?
[05:56] <fixmypc956> I would guess it is connected to the internet
[05:57] <pfifo> Guest61244: its a power saving mode
[05:57] <Payton> cfhowlett: cfhowlett - Payton, best?  too many variables to guess at YOUR optimal solutions.  Personally: 12 gigs for /  (root filesystem)   2 X 4 gigs = 8 gigs /swap   and the rest is in /home
[05:57] <Payton> there
[05:57] <Guest61244> right yesthanks
[05:57] <ChronicLlama> HAI
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Payton, ah yes.  right.  I use similar set up on virtualbox.  I' use more space in /filesystem as I run ubuntustudio + sputnik packages
[05:57] <fixmypc956> how can I verify that it is connected to the internet
[05:58] <ChronicLlama> question....would using a usb stick for swap be better than the HDD reading simultaneously ?
[05:58] <Payton> cfhowlett: Alright :) thanks
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Payton, but I use less ram and for vbox, i install 32 bit ubuntu
[05:58] <pfifo> ChronicLlama: no, usb is slow
[05:58] <ChronicLlama> slower...than a HDD....?
[05:58] <ChronicLlama> @7200rpm
[05:58] <Guest61244> Pfifo perhaps you can help me here.  Are all packages and applications installed on Ubuntu through repos or downloaded manually, installed into the /home directory?
[05:59] <pfifo> ChronicLlama: yes, many times slower
[05:59] <cfhowlett> Guest61244, /home is for your program configurations and settings.  apps should NOT be installing in /home
[05:59] <Guest61244> ahh ok I thought so thanks
[06:00] <pfifo> Guest61244: no, they are downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives and the unpacked into / your /home directory should never be modified by installing a package (or removing one)
[06:00] <ChronicLlama> ok thank you pfifo
[06:00] <fixmypc956> how can I verify that my server has a connection to the internet
[06:00] <cfhowlett> fixmypc956, ping www.google.com
[06:00] <CarlFK> cfhowlett: goo.gl is less typing :)
[06:01] <cfhowlett> CarlFK, noted
[06:01] <Payton> cfhowlett: How do I get a full display on VBox?
[06:01] <fixmypc956> I get ping: unknown host www.google.com
[06:01] <Payton> Just do google.com
[06:01] <pfifo> fixmypc956: sounds like your DNS isnt working properly
[06:02] <bhavesh> How do I transfer a 4.6GB file from my desktop running Ubuntu 13.10 connected with ethernet to a wifi router to my laptop running Ubuntu 13.10 GNOME connected to the same network using the same routers wifi?
[06:02] <cfhowlett> Payton, get the vbox version from oracle, not the software center.  install.  then see "help" guest additions and follow the instructions.
[06:02] <bhavesh> I don't have a flash drive right now.
[06:02] <fixmypc956> pfifo: How do I fix that issue
[06:02] <Payton> cfhowlett: I mean on windows :P
[06:02] <cfhowlett> bhavesh, vinagre will allow you to remotedesktop.   drag and drop between machines
[06:02] <Payton> and I do have the oracle virsion :P
[06:02] <pfifo> bhavesh: i have a httpd installed, i use that for file transfers
[06:03] <pfifo> fixmypc956: pastebin the output of 'dig ubuntu.com'
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Payton, right. not 100% sure windows host will allow guest additions but it's the same process.
[06:03] <kevin__> Just had a Kernel Panic
[06:04] <bhavesh> okay.
[06:04] <shaft0> Beldar:  I figured it out!!!
[06:04] <pfifo> Payton: if your installing to a vbox, you really only need one partition, you likely wont save all your important docs in /home
[06:04] <Beldar> shaft0, Cool what was the issue?
[06:04] <shaft0> Beldar: dmraid -E -r /dev/sda and THEN it showed up
[06:04] <Payton> cfhowlett: Where would i find how to do it?
[06:05] <shaft0> Presumably something to do with ISRT
[06:05] <Beldar> shaft0, I figured it was something.
[06:05] <shaft0> Me too, but what a nightmare
[06:05] <shaft0> I bought the thing used and the guy had windows on it
[06:06] <shaft0> I *almost* used it with Windows...
[06:06] <shaft0> Yikes.
[06:06] <Beldar> shaft0, That intel link was the only one I could find.
[06:06] <shaft0> Close one!
[06:06] <fixmypc956> pfifo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6533452/
[06:07] <azio_m> do you guys recommend LVM with a new ubuntu installation?
[06:07] <pfifo> fixmypc956: pastebin the output of 'ls -la /etc/resolv.conf && cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[06:08] <pfifo> azio_m: if your single booting ubuntu with no intention of installing another OS and have a valid reason to use LVM then yes, otherwise no
[06:09] <azio_m> pfifo: does it affect speed in any way?
[06:09] <azio_m> i don't have another os on the pc
[06:09] <pfifo> azio_m: it dose, it can go either way depending on your setup
[06:09] <fixmypc956> pfifo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6533460/
[06:09] <tavistock> can someone help me figure out how to get an xbox controller to work in crouton(saucy xfce)
[06:10] <bazhang> tavistock, crouton? is that MINT?
[06:10] <tavistock> chroot chrome os ubuntu
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Payton, look in the help menu of virtualbox
[06:11] <Payton> cfhowlett: Yes, I did, nothing there
[06:11] <cfhowlett> Payton, virtualbox > Help > "guest additions"
[06:11] <Payton> cfhowlett: There are no guest additions
[06:12] <shaft0> Beldar:  This was the link that helped me fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2050413&highlight=installation+type
[06:12] <tavistock> but really is just ubuntu sans vm kernels
[06:13] <pfifo> fixmypc956: try 'sudo restart networking' it might boot you out of ssh when it goes down.
[06:13] <fixmypc956> ok let me try
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Payton, as I said, I'm not sure windows virtualbox supports guess additions.
[06:13] <cfhowlett> !paste
[06:14] <fixmypc956> I get restart: unknowk instance
[06:15] <pfifo> fixmypc956: maybe its 'sudo restart network-manager'
[06:15] <cfhowlett> Payton, download the Extension Pack from oracle and install.  then try again.
[06:15] <Payton> link please
[06:16] <cfhowlett> Payton, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[06:16] <Payton> Thanks
[06:16] <fixmypc956> pfifo: got the same error
[06:16] <cfhowlett> Payton, no worries
[06:16] <pfifo> fixmypc956: have you tried rebooting to fix this?
[06:16] <fixmypc956> pfifo: should I just restart the server
[06:17] <fixmypc956> no that was the next option
[06:18] <pfifo> fixmypc956: since i dont know the exact option to restart networking, reboot is sufficient. I know how I do it, but its not the "ubuntu way" so I dont recommend it to others
[06:19] <Payton> cfhowlett: What do I do now?
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Payton, installed extensions?  restart vbox and see the help menu for guest additions help
[06:25] <Payton> cfhowlett: uh, still no guest additions
[06:25] <Payton> :(
[06:26] <cfhowlett> Payton, may not be possible on windows.  sorry.  but since xp is officially and finally dead in 4 months, perhaps dual booting is in order;.
[06:27] <Payton> cfhowlett: :(
[06:27] <Payton> cfhowlett: Would SD work? I don't have a USB
[06:28] <yogeshsarwate> Hi
[06:28] <oakridge> hello
[06:28] <yogeshsarwate> Hi all
[06:28] <Payton> wait found display
[06:29] <Payton> What should I use what width and height
[06:29] <cfhowlett> Payton, haven't yet done SD so I don't know.  but you should be able to scale display to full width.  whatever they are.
[06:29]  * yogeshsarwate slapped [1]JPeterson with a wet kipper!
[06:29] <yogeshsarwate> Soort mr. Peterson i am new to irc
[06:30] <Payton> cfhowlett: Whats the best width and height?
[06:30] <yogeshsarwate> Extremly sorry about it
[06:30] <cfhowlett> Payton, I don't know your display specs?
[06:31] <Payton> 1366 x 768
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Payton, there it is, then!
[06:31] <Payton> Will I still be able to minimize it? xD
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Payton, sure. bring up the display menu and do that
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Payton, via keypress or hotzone for the mouse
[06:32] <Payton> yaaaay done
[06:32] <cfhowlett> Payton, see how easy that was?
[06:33] <articsun> yogeshsarwate,  got the message?
[06:33] <cfhowlett> :)
[06:33] <Alex36_> Hi all :)
[06:33] <articsun> I'll help ya
[06:33] <cfhowlett> Alex36_, greetings
[06:33] <Payton> Wait, it still looks like a bordered small box
[06:33] <Payton> :(
[06:33] <cfhowlett> Payton, of course.  it's not a guest addition display so won't be as pretty
[06:33] <v0latil3_> stevildead are you here?
[06:34] <SetiAmon> so is there any plans for wireless ac to be implemented in linux
[06:34] <v0latil3_> are there*
[06:35] <v0latil3_> loololol grammer popo
[06:37] <Alex36> maybe it's a stupid question but i need to clarify me this concept :P I have read about "teaming" of two or more network cards, if I understood correctly this is used for redudancy and high availability of network (if the machine works as server). My question now is, can I use two network cards together and get better speed (so it means that there is the
[06:37] <Alex36> possibility to transfer data/files together and at the same time?)
[06:38] <cfhowlett> Alex36, ascynchronous transmission?  sure.
[06:38] <Alex36> :D sounds good
[06:38] <fixmypc956> pfifo: still the same issue
[06:39] <SetiAmon> I took out my inferior wifi carb because i found running two wifi cards broke network manager.it couldn't handle it
[06:39] <SetiAmon> although worked fine in windows.
[06:40] <ChronicLlama> whats the easiest way to play windows games on linux?
[06:40] <ChronicLlama> i know of wine
[06:40] <ChronicLlama> but i herd something about other programs
[06:40] <cfhowlett> ChronicLlama, playonlinux
[06:40] <ttyX> steam for linux
[06:40] <Alex36> Thanks for the replies, so now I will think about it :D
[06:41] <kevin__> Got a DirectX error when attempting to Play Path of Exile using PlayOnLinux
[06:41] <ChronicLlama> ok thanks cfhowlett
[06:41] <joobz> Guys, is my RAID degraded - http://pastebin.com/hPnVSEWq ?
[06:42] <diverdude> Hi, is LTO-6 the most recent tape format for backup?
[06:44] <tsnyph> just a quick question. Why is it when i purge a program, it still has it in the synaptic package manager?
[06:44] <myhappy> hello
[06:45] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, properly purged, no.
[06:45] <tsnyph> how do i purge properly?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, sudo apt-get purge packagename
[06:46] <tsnyph> thats what i used
[06:46] <cfhowlett> diverdude, perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server?
[06:47] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, apt-cache policy packagename should show not installed
[06:48] <Alex36> Do I need special hardware switch for ascynchronous transmission? Or a normal gbit switch it's enough?
[06:48] <tsnyph> clamtk:
[06:48] <tsnyph>   Installed: (none)
[06:48] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, yep.
[06:48] <tsnyph> but why is it still showing in the synaptic?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, you want to purge it from the universal package manager so NO ONE can get it?
[06:49] <tsnyph> yes
[06:49] <tsnyph> lol
[06:51] <TurnAirPhoto> hello, this is my first time here, a little help would be appreicated
[06:51] <cfhowlett> TurnAirPhoto, provide details and ask your question.    and welcome!
[06:51] <cfhowlett> !details
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[06:52] <cfhowlett> ^^^spam^^^\
[06:52] <tsnyph> is this error anything to worry about?
[06:52] <tsnyph> could not grab your mouse. a malicious program my be evesdropping on your session
[06:52] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, it's not an error!
[06:53] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, ooops.  nevermind
[06:53] <TurnAirPhoto> I am trying to properly install Paparazzi UAV software, as a first-time Ubuntu user I have a feeling I have not gotten all the parts that I  need properly downloaded and installed
[06:53] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, what program is giving you that?
[06:53] <tsnyph> i was just trying to run synaptic as administrator and i got that error
[06:54] <cfhowlett> tsnyph, logout/login and try again
[06:54] <tsnyph> ok
[06:54] <cfhowlett> TurnAirPhoto, I can't see the details, but I'd guess you installed via PPA or what?
[06:55] <TurnAirPhoto> ahhh, now we are getting to something I have heard before, I was just researcfhing PPA
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !ppa|TurnAirPhoto, PPA install then?
[06:57] <TurnAirPhoto> Ok I already got deep enough to read that warning Ubottu
[06:57] <cfhowlett> TurnAirPhoto, unsuppported and run at your own risk.  might be best to ask paparazzi for install support and instructions
[07:00] <TurnAirPhoto> I did something in System Software Sources, but now have closed too many windows to accurately report what exactly they are
[07:01] <TurnAirPhoto> and cant find my way back there
[07:03] <Guardian1> im having trouble getting VSFTPD to work via these instructions
[07:03] <Guardian1> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[07:03] <Guardian1> it fails when trying to connect to the server using filezilla
[07:04] <Guardian1> Response:	500 OOPS: priv_sock_get_cmd
[07:04] <fixmypc956> issue fixed....no nameserver on /etc/resolv.conf
[07:08] <TurnAirPhoto> is there a PAPARAZZI channel somewhere
[07:15] <linu1> hi all i have been trying to work on rtl8723as wifi module,i have successfully installed driver,but when i try to up module and configure wifi it throws me the errors repeatedly, please see http://pastebin.com/7mTeb7gf can you help me to solve this issues
[07:31] <user> i want to make the ubuntu iso smaller, get it down to about 400MB, so i can toram boot it on my netbook can anyone help or point me in the right direction
[07:32] <cfhowlett> !mini|user,
[07:32] <lolcat> Is Ubuntu 13.04 good with drivers+
[07:32] <lolcat> ?
[07:32] <lolcat> 13.10 maybe?
[07:33] <lolcat> I need ATI 7770M drivers
[07:33] <user> cfhowlett: i am looking to use this as a live dvd, and the harddrive (ssd) in there is broken
[07:34] <cfhowlett> user, try lubuntu: smaller, lighter, optimized for low spec machines
[07:34] <user> cfhowlett: i was thinking of removing some of the unneed stuff, like openoffice and java, as i only use the netbook for checking my email and watching youtube in the kitchen
[07:34] <cju-pp> I am using EC2 to host an Ubuntu server. After a few hours of running, the SSH crashes. If I stop and start the server it works again, I can't figure out why this is happening, anyone have any ideas what logs I should look through to start figuring it out? I have googled online for the past few hours already.
[07:34] <user> cfhowlett: its still to big, its like 700MB, i need the iso file small, so i can use the toram kernal boot param
[07:35] <cfhowlett> !server|cju-pp,
[07:35] <cfhowlett> user, you might want to try something like puppy or damnsmalllinux
[07:36] <user> cfhowlett: cant i just boot from the live cd, uninstall and bunch of stuff and then just create my own linux light version from there?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> user, making a custom cd while booted in live?  I'd be surprised.  ask in the channel again, I've never done one
[07:37] <user> cfhowlett: thanks for the help anyway
[07:38] <user> I am looking to create my own customer version of the ubuntu 13.10 dvd, i want to make it much smaller can someone please point me in the right direction
[07:39] <user> cfhowlett: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[07:39] <user> cfhowlett: i think i might be able to get somewhere with this.
[07:40] <cfhowlett> user, right, that should get you going.
[07:40] <user> cfhowlett: thanks for the time, c ya
[07:41] <linu1> hi all can you tell me, how can i throw (or) redirect logs  which i get while configuring wifi,
[07:41] <leftist> !seen seveas
[07:42] <leftist> is there an edition i can try out with a lenovo yoga?
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> what does the following mean:
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> administrator@turnairphoto:~$ apt-get install git
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[07:46] <TurnAirPhoto> administrator@turnairphoto:~$
[07:47] <Aumpa> Hello! I'm a new ubuntu user! I just installed it on my Chromebook 14 with Crouton. But I'm having issues. :/
[07:47] <Aumpa> I've been trying to following the advice on http://www.unixmen.com/top-things-installing-ubuntu-13-10/
[07:48] <Aumpa> How do I install the ubuntu software centre?
[07:48] <samuraibsd> Hi, I'm on 13.10 and whenever I open Kate now, the window spawns to the top left of the desktop, so far that the window controls are underneat the top Unity panel. Is there some way to fix this?
[07:52] <vaio> hey, deja-dup fails on restore, it says directory doesn't exist, tried restoring to a different folder, any idea how to circument that error?
[07:59] <vaio> someone familiar with deja-dup?
[07:59] <vaio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/387363/deja-dup-failes-to-restore-folder-doesnt-exist
[08:02] <theadmin> vaio: You need to point dèjá dup to a folder with the archive, not the archive itself.
[08:03] <vaio> theadmin: the restore works, it just stops during the restore
[08:03] <theadmin> vaio: Ah. Now that's odd.
[08:03] <theadmin> vaio: Either way, you should be able to just unpack the archive like an ordinary one
[08:03] <theadmin> vaio: So if all else fails...
[08:04] <theadmin> vaio: (but, make sure to unpack to a Linux-ish filesystem, or else your permissions will go crazy)
[08:04] <vaio> trying the folder restore from within nautilus now
[08:05] <vaio> yeah, i'm and was under 13/10
[08:05] <vaio> 13.10
[08:05] <theadmin> vaio: I mean, don't unpack to your external hard drive, unless it's also ext4 or whatever FS you had when creating the backup.
[08:06] <vaio> ah yeah, it's ext4 for sure
[08:14] <Aumpa> I've been getting error messages like the one in this pic: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12072013-120800am.php What's going on? I'm a new user and know very little. I just installed ubuntu tonight.
[08:15] <bazhang> Aumpa, only one instance of apt can run at a time
[08:15] <theadmin> Aumpa: Do you have any other programs open that are using APT? Software Centre, Update Manager, other apt-gets?
[08:16] <Aumpa> Hmm...
[08:16] <Beldar> Aumpa, The software center is already installed
[08:17] <theadmin> Beldar: Not necessarily. Some editions of Ubuntu come without it (Lubuntu and Kubuntu, for example)
[08:17] <Aumpa> I used Crouton to install ubuntu on a Chromebook.
[08:17] <theadmin> Oh dear...
[08:17] <theadmin> Aumpa: That's... not really supported. May be some Chromebook-specific problem, too
[08:18] <Aumpa> hmm.
[08:18] <Beldar> theadmin, sure, however they said ubuntu is all.
[08:18] <Aumpa> I don't see the software center or update manager anywhere.
[08:19] <Aumpa> I've been trying to follow the directions here: http://www.unixmen.com/top-things-installing-ubuntu-13-10/
[08:19] <Beldar> Aumpa, ubuntu software center, you have a panel on the left of the screen?
[08:19] <Aumpa> No, no panel on the left.
[08:19] <Beldar> Aumpa, So, what is the actual install desktop wise?
[08:19] <theadmin> Beldar: Crouton installs Xfce by default.
[08:20] <theadmin> Beldar: I'm not even sure it's the proper Xubuntu desktop, though.
[08:20] <theadmin> (I don't have a Chromebook to test this on)
[08:21] <brainrum> is LVm encryption usefull and secure when installing ubuntu?
[08:22] <Aumpa> looks like this: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-12072013-122125am.php
[08:23] <Aumpa> Is that basic Xfce?
[08:24] <theadmin> It is Xfce, yes.
[08:26] <theadmin> Aumpa: Well, if you are *sure* that no other apps are using apt, you can release this lockfile by rebooting or by "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[08:26] <BlackBeaver> Hello?
[08:26] <theadmin> BlackBeaver: Greetings.
[08:27] <Aumpa> I'll try rebooting.
[08:30] <aisyah> hello
[08:30] <BlackBeaver> Hi!
[08:30] <aisyah> i need help here
[08:30] <BlackBeaver> Need some help?
[08:30] <aeon-ltd> ask
[08:30] <aisyah> i cannot logon to gui screen
[08:31] <aisyah> now i am stuck in terminal
[08:31] <BlackBeaver> You use Linux?
[08:31] <aeon-ltd> type startx
[08:31] <aisyah> yes
[08:31] <BlackBeaver> Ubuntu?
[08:31] <aisyah> ubuntu 12.04
[08:31] <k1l> aeon-ltd: no
[08:31] <BlackBeaver> AHh
[08:31] <aisyah> this was happend after i updated the propretiary nvidia driver from 304 to 319. please help. i don't want to       │ epritchett
[08:31] <aisyah>                   │                | reformat it as i already did so much setting. :(
[08:32] <theadmin> aisyah: Remove proprietary from premises. Should help.
[08:32] <aisyah> theadmin: how to do it?
[08:32] <theadmin> aisyah: (as in, remove the nvidia driver, reboot and see if it works)
[08:32] <theadmin> aisyah: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*
[08:34] <aisyah> theadmin: okay...let me try
[08:34] <BlackBeaver> Hello?
[08:34] <BlackBeaver> Hello
[08:34] <theadmin> aisyah: Actually, first you could try running nvidia-xconfig to create a new proprietary driver configuration
[08:34] <k1l> !ask | BlackBeaver
[08:34] <theadmin> aisyah: ...although it probably does that automatically nowadays. Not sure.
[08:35] <aisyah> is this caused i didn't deactivate the 304 driver before update to 319 driver?
[08:35] <theadmin> aisyah: Nah, shouldn't cause issues
[08:35] <testpil0t> aisyah, maybe also try to rerun dkms
[08:36] <Aumpa> Now I'm in a fix. I can't switch back to ubuntu using ctrl-alt-shift-forward on my Chromebook. :/
[08:36] <aisyah> theadmin: should i reboot?
[08:36] <k1l> installing a sideload video driver over a running nvidia driver can cause this.
[08:36] <aisyah> testpil0t: what is dkms?
[08:37] <testpil0t> Dynamic Kernel Module Support
[08:38] <theadmin> aisyah: Yeah, you shoudl
[08:38] <theadmin> aisyah: sudo reboot
[08:39] <aisyah> k1l: do you mean, we should de-activate current driver before update?
[08:39] <aisyah> reboot done... now new problem
[08:40] <aisyah> i stuck at login screen eventhough i entered the correct password
[08:40] <Aumpa> How can I switch back to ubuntu if the usual command of ctrl-alt-shift-forward commands doesn't work to switch between OSes?
[08:41] <aisyah> my mouse cursor does not move at all. :(
[08:43] <theadmin> Aumpa: Chromebooks aren't a supported installation. Sorry, you're on your own with that.
[08:45] <Aumpa> Okay, thanks for trying.
[08:47] <prashant_123456> i want to burn a multisession data dvd with the help of terminal can anyone suggest a proper command for it, but the requirement is that the dvd shoud be able to read under windows os and must be in udf format
[08:48] <theadmin> prashant_123456: "wodim" is typically used to write data to CD/DVD drives. However, I'm not sure about multisession.
[08:49] <prashant_123456> growisofs theadmin
[08:49] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Oh, that looks interesting.
[08:49] <theadmin> ...I haven't used optical media in ages
[08:50] <theadmin> So not much aware of things on that front
[08:51] <JesseH> Is it possible to change to a 64 bit architecture while on 32 bit? ^^
[08:52] <ariscop> JesseH, it's possible, but it's a fair amount of work
[08:52] <JesseH> Well I need to do it...I don't have any other media to use.
[08:52] <benishor> Hi there. Say I write a c++ app and I want to package and distribute it in the form of a .deb file. Can anybody point me to a proper resource of learning about how to create a package for dummies?
[08:53] <JesseH> ariscop, How do I learn to do such a thing?
[08:53] <theadmin> benishor: Easiest way: make a Makefile or a script that installs all files to their respective locations, run that script under "checkinstall".
[08:54] <ariscop> JesseH, with a fair amount of experience, i've done it on arch but don't know enough about ubuntu to actually do it
[08:55] <benishor> theadmin: sounds too easy :) do you happen to have a link/reference for this?
[08:55] <Guest71341> i have voice and mic problem with skype an the new ubuntu version
[08:55] <theadmin> JesseH: It's not supported. A reinstall is probably the only reasonable option. Do you have a USB?
[08:55] <Guest71341> i have thinkpad t60
[08:55] <JesseH> theadmin, Ill have to order one now.
[08:56] <JesseH> Or is it possible to run a 64 bit application on 32 bit? :P
[08:56] <JesseH> Any possible way at all?
[08:56] <theadmin> benishor: No need, just "sudo checkinstall COMMAND". COMMAND is your install script. The tool is fully interactive, it will ask you for the package name, version, dependencies and other stuff.
[08:56]  * JesseH is cheap
[08:56] <theadmin> JesseH: No... What app do you want to run that does *not* have a 32-bit version?
[08:56] <benishor> theadmin: thank you very much!
[08:57] <JesseH> theadmin, If I can't, then explaining it isn't much use. Thanks anyway!
[08:58] <theadmin> JesseH: Here's a trick you might make use of. Install "grml-rescueboot". Place an Ubuntu ISO in /boot/grml and run sudo update-grub. Find the ISO entry in the GRUB menu, append "toram" to the line and boot it.
[08:58] <theadmin> JesseH: Then you can reinstall by magic. But you need plenty of RAM to do this.
[08:58] <JesseH> I have, 1.5 gb of ram
[08:58] <Guest71341> i have skype problems
[08:58] <theadmin> JesseH: Hm, will probably be enough. I hope...
[08:58] <theadmin> JesseH: Just a suggestion, though
[08:58] <Guest71341> dont work good
[08:58] <theadmin> Guest71341: Details, please?
[08:58] <JesseH> theadmin, gonna try it.. lol
[08:59] <Guest71341> its a very loud noise
[08:59] <Guest71341> i dont know whats wrong
[08:59] <Guest71341> i  have ibm thinkpad t60
[08:59] <Guest71341> ubunt new version
[08:59] <Guest71341> and skype microphone and sound is  shit and not working
[09:00] <bazhang> Guest71341, no cursing here please
[09:00] <Guest71341> is my laptop broken or what?
[09:00] <Guest71341> i dont know if its hardware or software problem
[09:00] <theadmin> Guest71341: Have you installed Skype from the Software Center, or from skype.com?
[09:01] <Guest71341> skype com deb package
[09:01] <bazhang> !enter | Guest71341
[09:01] <theadmin> Guest71341: Remove that kebab and install Skype from the Software Centre, it has some fixes there.
[09:01] <Guest71341> how remove i my old skype
[09:02] <theadmin> Guest71341: sudo apt-get purge skype:i386 I beleive.
[09:02] <Guest71341> and istalling from software center will help you think
[09:03] <theadmin> Guest71341: Normally does, yes, there are known problems with skype from the website. I'm not sure how or why, but the SC version fixes most of those.
[09:05] <bazhang> !info skype partner | Guest71341
[09:06] <bazhang> Guest71341, be sure the partner software repository is enabled
[09:06] <Guest71341> how do i refresh the software center
[09:07] <Guest71341> i deleted skype with software center
[09:07] <Guest71341> and the install button is not there
[09:07] <bazhang> Guest71341, you need to enable the partner repository, then refresh the packages available
[09:09] <motaka2> does anyone knows a good book a bout networking using linux or ubuntu ?
[09:10] <prashant_123456> theadmin, sorry i got disconnected
[09:11] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Ah. Happens. Basically I said that I don't know much about optical media cause I haven't used it in age.
[09:11] <theadmin> ages.*
[09:12] <samuraibsd> Anyone have recommendations for a good syntax highlighting text editor that isn't Kate?
[09:12] <prashant_123456> theadmin, ok thanks for the support and can u tell me where can i find my burner cause i need to use a burner i think /dev/sr0 ?
[09:13] <theadmin> prashant_123456: Typically yes, /dev/sr0 would be your first CD/DVD drive
[09:13] <theadmin> prashant_123456: If you have only one, this is it
[09:13] <prashant_123456> theadmin, yes i have only one
[09:13] <prashant_123456> theadmin, thanks
[09:13] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/mkudffs.1.html  prashant_123456 you might consider this
[09:13] <bazhang> found in udftools
[09:14] <bazhang> !info udftools | prashant_123456
[09:15] <chare> what is planned for the next release of ubuntu
[09:16] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[09:16] <bazhang> chare, #ubuntu+1 for discussion of 14.04
[09:16] <prashant_123456> bazhang, cant get you point
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> a simple noob question...i just installed windows and left 160 gb of unpartitioned space...I made a usb stick with ubuntu and chose install ubuntu next to windows...on boot it entered windows automatically, no grub...
[09:17] <Wiz_KeeD> why would that happen?
[09:17] <bazhang> prashant_123456, you said you want to write multisession/udf
[09:17] <prashant_123456> bazhang, yes and how to do it ?
[09:18] <bazhang> prashant_123456, did you not read the man pages I linked to you for udftools?
[09:18] <MarGul> is there any application I can run to test my graphic card prestanda? Every time I use flashplayer my computer starts to sound like crazy and its not the CPU. Its at like 10-20%. Soon as I shutdown flash player my computer stop making sounds
[09:19] <prashant_123456> !info udftools / bazhang
[09:19] <prashant_123456> bazhang,  ?
[09:19] <benishor> theadmin: checkinstall will build a binary deb I hope?
[09:19] <benishor> theadmin: as in deb containing binary distribution
[09:19] <prashant_123456> bazhang, ok got it
[09:19] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/mkudffs.1.html     <------ prashant_123456
[09:20] <prashant_123456> bazhang, i forgot to put whitespace in between ! and info
[09:20] <theadmin> benishor: Yeah, of course
[09:20] <benishor> theadmin: thank you again!
[09:21] <Wiz_KeeD> anyy1?
[09:21] <prashant_123456> having bug in grwoisofs
[09:21] <prashant_123456> bazhang,
[09:29] <sabs> kdm or lightdm ?
[09:29] <sabs> help pleas ?
[09:29] <newb> #rubyonrails
[09:29] <sabs> kdm or lightdm ?
[09:30] <sabs> i need help ?
[09:33] <[[thufir]]> I installed junior-games-card but can't seem to launch it...no man page..?
[09:34] <bazhang> [[thufir]], using alt f2?
[09:35] <[[thufir]]> not listed
[09:36] <[[thufir]]> bazhang: "nothing that matches your search"
[09:36] <[[thufir]]> ditto for junior-math
[09:36] <bazhang> [[thufir]], alt f2 is the run dialog
[09:36] <amireldor> After removing a PPA updated package, how do I revert to the default repositories version?
[09:37] <bazhang> amireldor, with ppa-purge
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> guys do you have any suggestions on what went wrong installing ubuntu? grub did not start
[09:37] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | amireldor
[09:37] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, did you hold shift at boot?
[09:37] <amireldor> bazhang, exactly what I needed. Thanks!
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> hold shift? :O
[09:37] <Wiz_KeeD> why should I do that?
[09:38] <Wiz_KeeD> on my other laptop it work no problem
[09:38] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, yes, thats how to get to grub
[09:38] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, is this a wubi install? or an actual dual boot
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> dual boot, wubi = eeek
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> The other laptop grub just started automatically :(
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> do I have to hold shift EVERY time?
[09:39] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, and ubuntu was installed last?
[09:39] <[[thufir]]> bazhang: yes, it's the run dialog.  however, it doesn't lauch junior-math
[09:39] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, you can adjust the timeout to make it appear everytime if you wish
[09:40] <ResQue> i am trying to make the ubuntu iso smaller, what package could i uninstall that are quite large?
[09:40] <bazhang> [[thufir]], so try in the terminal, using tab complete   junior- <tab>
[09:40] <bazhang> ResQue, try the other way, with the  m ini iso?
[09:40] <bazhang> !mini | ResQue
[09:41] <aisyah> hello. my problem still not solve. please help
[09:41] <bazhang> aisyah, what issue
[09:42] <ResQue> bazhang: im looking to reduce the size of the live iso cd, and add a few custom packages
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> bazhang, aahhh didn't know that
[09:42] <aisyah> bazhang: i am stuck on login screen. i have 2 admin account. i can't enter both. but i managed to enter on guest account
[09:42] <aisyah> bazhang: is this caused the xorg.conf?
[09:42] <Wiz_KeeD> So i just leave the unpartitioned space left after windows install and install ubuntu with the firsst option next to windows yes?
[09:43] <bazhang> ResQue, well thats certainly possible, doing a remaster of the live cd, but more work than building a custom iso starting with the mini
[09:43] <aisyah> bazhang: i checked, i got 3 xorg.conf file.. 1)xorg.conf 2)xorg.conf.backup 3)xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original
[09:43] <ResQue> bazhang: ok, i have a copy of the minicd already, do you have any links or documention on the next setp
[09:43] <ResQue> bazhang: next stephan
[09:43] <aisyah> bazhang: should i replace the xorg.conf with xorg.conf.backup?
[09:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD   ResQue this?
[09:44] <ResQue> bazhang: i mean "the next step"
[09:44] <bazhang> ResQue, or for remaster
[09:44] <aisyah> bazhang: can you help me on this?
[09:44] <Isualin> aisyah how do you get stuck on login screen? black screen?
[09:45] <bazhang> aisyah, you seem to have several issues, why not try to solve them one at a time
[09:45] <aisyah> not blackscren
[09:45] <ResQue> bazhang: i like your idea about starting form scratch with the mini version, but i am unsure on how to create a custom live cd using this method
[09:46] <bazhang> ResQue, something like mkisofs ? is that what you had in mind? add custome packages to mini, then create a bootable installer iso?
[09:46] <aisyah> Isualin: i can't enter admin account (2 admin account) eventhough the password is correct but i manged to enter the guest account
[09:46] <bazhang> -e
[09:46] <aisyah> bazhang: how?
[09:47] <ResQue> bazhang: i dont need the installer, just the live cd/dvd version.
[09:48] <Lucid_Lynx_LTS> !help
[09:49] <aisyah> Isualin: bazhang : any solution?
[09:49] <pulsar78> how do i save my config in grub ? its not mentioned
[09:49] <bazhang> pulsar78, update-grub
[09:50] <oly_> hi
[09:50] <bazhang> aisyah, please list your issue on a single line. it's very hard to know what it is spaced out like that
[09:50] <pulsar78> bazhang: im booted into grub and editing
[09:51] <OmnIcK> is there any doc how to get dhcp6 client working on ubuntu 10.04 server?
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> bazhang, Unable to find mediumcontaining a live file system
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> blah...
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> what happened?
[09:51] <oly_> blah..
[09:52] <haha> how strange it is..i always feel audacious 's voice not clean
[09:53] <aisyah> bazhang: i just updated nvidia driver from 304 to 319. now, the issue is i cannot enter to my admin account. fyi, i have 2 admin accounts. i cannot enter both but i managed enter to guest account.
[09:55] <bazhang> aisyah, where did you get these driver updates from? why 2 admin accounts? what version of Ubuntu?
[09:57] <aisyah> bazhang: thats proprietary driver. ubuntu 12.04
[09:57] <aisyah> bazhang: *from proprietary driver
[09:57] <bazhang> why 2 admin accounts?   aisyah
[09:58] <aisyah> because this is shared computer
[09:58] <ruxpin> I have some sort of conflicting package somewhere that prevents me to install libaprutil1-dev package. any ideas how to solve this? http://pastie.org/8535191
[09:58] <aisyah> bazhang: because this is shared computer
[09:58] <bazhang> ruxpin, you have some PPA installed there?
[09:59] <ruxpin> bazhang: security updates, nothing more exotic than that
[10:01] <ruxpin> ubuntu 12.04
[10:02] <mac_12> has anyone installed puppetlabs on ubuntu 13.10?
[10:05] <Styles> Hey everyone! I hooked up an HDMI cable, put my browser on the other monitor and put a flash video in full screen and it keeps putting it on my laptop monitor, not the TV.
[10:05] <Styles> Any clue what causes this behavior?
[10:16] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys do I need to format the stick as ntfs or something or does the linux pendrive thing do it all?
[10:17] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, unetbootin or the like will do it for you
[10:18] <Wiz_KeeD> bazhang, it is done but it's still fat32
[10:19] <Wiz_KeeD> it reads it boots, but gives that stupid error :(
[10:19] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, did you md5 the iso prior to "burning"
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> no
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> downloaded a new one though
[10:20] <Wiz_KeeD> how do you do that?
[10:20] <bazhang> !md5
[10:20] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, ^
[10:21] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks man!
[10:22] <c_nick> \join #androidev
[10:22] <Wiz_KeeD> same error, new download WTFF
[10:22] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[10:24] <PatrickDickey> What error are you getting Wiz_KeeD?
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> how can i see progress of cloning an usb device to another with dd?
[10:31] <PatrickDickey> lotuspsychje: You can use a kill command. I'll find the exact syntax of it in a couple of seconds.
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> PatrickDickey: kill command to see progress of dd?
[10:33] <PatrickDickey> kill -s USR1 PID for the dd process.
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> PatrickDickey: it will not actually kill it right?
[10:33] <PatrickDickey> Yep. using that specific command just forces it to display where it's at.
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> nice
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> lemme try
[10:33] <PatrickDickey> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/
[10:35] <bekks> dd_resue/ddrescue provide a progress display, too.
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> !info ddrescue
[10:37] <ahmet_> Can you help me with VPN
[10:39] <ahmet_> Can you help me with VPN
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | ahmet_
[10:42] <ahmet_> in both vpn and both want to use my own internet
[10:42] <Sven_vB> is there a way to get FTPS support in thunar in ubuntu precise? ftp://.../ as location (Ctrl+L) works well, but with ftps://, the open button fades grey.
[10:45] <DarthEaron> hi so i im in 13.04 and i know that my touchpad is capable of 4 finger gestures and i cant get touchgegg to see more than two fingers. any help?
[10:45] <DarthEaron> i have fallowed this guide to setup touchegg http://askubuntu.com/questions/252260/what-should-i-do-to-run-after-i-have-successfully-installed-touchegg-on-ubuntu-1
[10:51] <ahmet_> Do not have anyone to help me with VPN
[10:51] <cgt> !patience | ahmet_
[10:54] <PatrickDickey> ahmet_: What exactly are you trying to do with VPN, which VPN are you using, and what errors or messages are you getting?
[10:56] <jomoza> hey jdownloder give porblems in ubuntu 13.04
[10:57] <Sven_vB> jomoza, which error?
[11:08] <jayar> after install of 13.10, i chose secure on boot thing where i have to enter passphrase everytime i boot, how do i toggle that? cuz i dont need it all the time.
[11:11] <trijntje> jayar: secure on boot? Did you choose enrypted home or full disk encryption
[11:11] <trijntje> when do you need to put in your password, during boot, during login, in the bios?
[11:12] <rhumbot> hi all, i was wondering if someone could help me setting up google tasks using thunderbird? events work fine, but i cant add tasks?
[11:13] <jayar> during boot
[11:13] <Kroach> what would happen if I shut down Ubuntu while apt-get is running? would it interrupt it gracefully, wait for it to finish, or just ignore it and break the installation?
[11:14] <trijntje> jayar: in the bios or in ubuntu? Basically, how does the screen look when it asks the password?
[11:14] <sifat> how to hack a fb account???
[11:14] <Kroach> sifat: not the right channel
[11:14] <jayar> ubuntu... i could just turn off the bios one
[11:14] <trijntje> sifat: thats illegal, please go away
[11:14] <jayar> its right when the gnome logo pops up
[11:15] <jayar> after bios screen
[11:15] <sifat> only for learning purpose man :P
[11:15] <trijntje> jayar: that means you choose to encrypt your whole ubuntu during install, I'm not sure there's an easy way to disable that
[11:15] <dv_> "for learning purpose"
[11:15] <dv_> ha
[11:15] <jayar> lol classic
[11:16] <jayar> ah dang
[11:16] <cgt> !offtopic | sifat
[11:16] <dv_> how do I hack bitcoin to get 6000 btc ? only for learning purpose :P
[11:17] <sifat> does anyone know how to use dnsenum in backtrack??
[11:17] <trijntje> jayar: maybe you could set the password to empty or something, but that way you loose all security you got with encryption in the first place
[11:17] <jayar> well its a fresh install so maybe i'll just go through and re-do it
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> sifat: the people in the backtrack channel, maybe
[11:18] <sifat> how can i go to the backtrack channel? i am new here
[11:18] <trijntje> jayar: if you dont want the added security of encryption, thats probably the easiest. Just dont forget that if you do that, anyone who can touch your pc can get all your personal files
[11:18] <Stanley00> sifat: type /join #backtrack
[11:18] <sifat> thnx u man...
[11:18] <jayar> but i still have admin password
[11:18] <jayar> and home dir encryption
[11:20] <trijntje> jayar: home dir encryption will help, thats true. However, you can also encrypt the whole install, and set ubuntu to automatically log you in. Than you only have to type in you password once, but you get the increased security of full disk encryption
[11:20] <jayar> oh yea how do i do that
[11:21] <trijntje> jayar: during install, check the box 'don't as my password to login' or something similar
[11:22] <jayar> kk thnx
[11:34] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have some problem with my own kernel, the usb-mouse acts very laggy. which kernel-module could be missing?