[08:07] <jibel> mvo, good morning, could you have a look at bug 806065 pleasE ?
[08:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806065 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "apt_btrfs_snapshot.py", line 30, in from_line return FstabEntry(*line.split()) TypeError: __init__() takes exactly 7 arguments (5 given) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806065
[08:08] <mvo> jibel: uhhh, sure!
[09:27] <kidsodateless_> team, after the installation was completed, everytime it boots up I got this "underv[65]:error:runtime directory 'run/udev' not writeable, for now falling back up'/dev/.udev/ "  and i wait for about a minute before the flash screen start.
[09:29] <jibel> kidsodateless_, it is bug 784216, but not what is causing the 1 min delay before the splash screen
[09:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 784216 in udev (Ubuntu) "/run/udev not writable error message (affects: 22) (dups: 2) (heat: 120)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784216
[09:31] <jibel> kidsodateless, you can find if there's anything slow to start in dmesg after booting.
[09:46] <kidsodateless_> jibel, i'm about to file a bug, my question was  how to file a bug for that case, since it was filed already.  i'll move on next test case. thanks
[10:45] <jibel> charlie-tca, bad news xubuntu doesn't upgrade at all. i386 upgrade fails on doc-base and session doesn't start after upgrade on amd64
[12:29] <charlie-tca> jibel: thanks for testing the upgrades. Session won't start is because you must choose Xubuntu session in lightdm
[12:30] <charlie-tca> Anyone not choosing the session gets a fail
[12:30] <charlie-tca> I think that is bug 803499
[12:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803499 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu session using wrong settings (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803499
[12:34] <jibel> charlie-tca, you're right. by default the combo is empty and I didn't notice it was not xubuntu. session starts fine after selecting xubuntu
[12:36] <jibel> charlie-tca, updating result on tracker
[12:37] <charlie-tca> which makes life much harder for the user now
[13:45] <jibel> anyone to help with alternate, cjk or ltsp ?
[13:46] <hggdh> jibel: getting the alternate
[13:46] <hggdh> jibel: I believe you are referring to the kubuntu alternate, correct?
[13:47] <jibel> hggdh, thanks. I'm referring to ubuntu
[13:49] <hggdh> duh
[13:50] <hggdh> jibel: on the amd64 now
[13:51] <jibel> hggdh, how critical is bug 806453 for a2 ?
[13:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806453 in udev (Ubuntu) "udevd fails with error creating queue file, instance fails to boot (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806453
[13:52] <charlie-tca> jibel: I can run Ubuntu alternate 386
[14:09] <skaet> jibel, was looking through the results on the tracker,  and not many for ubuntu server images recorded.   Are we just just behind on the paperwork, or have the tests not been run yet?
[14:14] <jibel> skaet, results need to be reported to the tracker.
[14:15] <skaet> jibel,  fair enough,  any ones to be concerned about? (ie. respins needed?)
[14:34] <patdk-wk> hmm, I think the installer is faster
[14:36] <charlie-tca> um, need someone to verify the Ubuntu 386 alternate image will even boot using hardware. I burned it to a dvd-r since it is oversize, but the dvd won't boot, and tells me my primary slave hard disk is bad
[14:36] <ubot4> Ubuntu bug 386 in baz "change to removed files does not conflict (affects: 1) (heat: 3)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386
[14:36] <charlie-tca> works in VBox
[14:36] <patdk-wk> hmm
[14:37] <charlie-tca> Not only won't work, but gives a smart error on the second hard drive? That really has me confused
[14:37] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu images work on the same computer
[14:38] <patdk-wk> downloading
[14:40] <charlie-tca> burned two dvd-r's on two different computers
[14:42] <charlie-tca> I will also try a second computer, but it is installing a xubuntu test image right now
[14:43] <patdk-wk> I have a stack of dell optiplex 755's to test with, just have to wait for images to download :(
[14:43] <charlie-tca> Kind of worries me, if it really won't boot
[14:44] <charlie-tca> hm, my dvd drive is failing with dvd's; works with cd's
[14:45] <patdk-wk> nice
[14:45] <patdk-wk> sony drive?
[14:46] <charlie-tca> no,
[14:46] <charlie-tca> hm, it worked with xubuntu alternate burned to dvd
[14:47] <charlie-tca> nope, it is the ubuntu image refusing to start
[14:48] <charlie-tca> thanks for verifying, patdk-wk
[14:48] <patdk-wk> ran esx tests, now running iscsi while I wait for that to download
[14:49] <charlie-tca> heh, I got studio downloading here
[14:49] <hggdh> jibel: my libvirt is failing on default network, will have to dig into it
[14:49] <patdk-wk> I have gigabit :( but downloads only ever go about 200-300kyte/s
[14:50] <charlie-tca> lucky! mine are at 150kB/s
[14:50] <jibel> skaet, sorry was otp. server tests revealed nothing critical
[14:52] <skaet> jibel,  thanks.
[14:53] <charlie-tca> patdk-wk: they are working on the other computer here
[14:53] <charlie-tca> faulty hardware?
[14:53] <patdk-wk> possible
[14:53] <patdk-wk> or dvd didn't burn well, and other drive picks it up easier
[14:54] <charlie-tca> hm, maybe time to retire the motherboard
[14:54] <charlie-tca> That one is new, too (almost). I only bought it used a year ago
[15:04]  * patdk-wk is doing all tests in vmware, unless something needs confirming :)
[15:12] <charlie-tca> patdk-wk: verified here; it is the controller on the motherboard
[15:12] <charlie-tca> swapped the dvd drive to another computer and it is working
[15:13] <patdk-wk> nice
[15:18] <patdk-wk> oh you won't like this :)
[15:22] <charlie-tca> huh?
[15:22] <charlie-tca> what happened?
[15:22] <patdk-wk> iscsi i386 tests failed, again
[15:22] <patdk-wk> iscsi amd64 worked ok
[15:22] <charlie-tca> Oh, that's for jibel to not like
[15:22] <charlie-tca> heh
[15:23] <patdk-wk> ya, I see, I thought it was you name on the bug report :)
[15:23] <jibel> patdk-wk, same error than what was fixed in natty ?
[15:23] <patdk-wk> yep
[15:23] <patdk-wk> same results
[15:23] <jibel> :(
[15:23] <patdk-wk> reopen the old bug?
[15:24] <patdk-wk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-iscsi/+bug/728088
[15:24] <jibel> patdk-wk, bug 728088 ?
[15:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728088 in open-iscsi (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "iscsi root with or without auth fails to boot (affects: 8) (heat: 73)" [High,Fix released]
[15:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728088 in open-iscsi (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "iscsi root with or without auth fails to boot (affects: 8) (heat: 73)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728088
[15:24] <jibel> :-) we agree on the bug number
[15:25] <jibel> patdk-wk, file a new bug, add a reference to the previous issue and tag it regression-release
[15:25] <patdk-wk> ok
[15:25] <patdk-wk> going test i386-auth just incase
[15:25] <jibel> ok
[15:41] <patdk-wk> heh, my bad
[15:41] <patdk-wk> I tested an old natty iso :)
[15:42]  * charlie-tca rattles his brain. Got too many installs going while trying to download, with total 150kB/s to use
[15:43] <charlie-tca> jibel: my Ubuntu 386 tests are mostly on hardware
[15:43] <ubot4> Ubuntu bug 386 in baz "change to removed files does not conflict (affects: 1) (heat: 3)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386
[15:44] <charlie-tca> hm, ignore that bug. I didn't realize there was such a number
[15:44] <charlie-tca> and it is not fixed!
[15:44] <jibel> but it is not an ubuntu bug
[15:48]  * charlie-tca likes the 3d appearance better then the 2d appearance.
[15:58] <patdk-wk> yep, all is well, I just used the wrong iso :)
[16:03] <brendand> cr3 - launchpad-results is failing to build for me in oneiric. has it been tried out there yet?
[16:31] <mvo> jibel: you did not get a debconf prompt for lightdm?
[16:31] <mvo> jibel: on natty->oneiric upgrade?
[16:31] <jibel> mvo, yes
[16:31] <mvo> jibel: yes means no ;) ?
[16:32] <jibel> mvo, let me rephrase, I noticed a debconf prompt for lightdm
[16:32] <jibel> :)
[16:32] <jibel> is that bad ?
[16:32] <mvo> jibel: heh :) thanks! I just reported it. I consider it bad
[16:32] <mvo> jibel: its not something we should bother the user with
[16:32] <mvo> jibel: but for a2 of course its fine
[16:33] <mvo> bug 806559
[16:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 806559 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "debconf prompt about DM to use during natty->oneiric (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806559
[16:33] <mvo> (just fyi)
[16:33] <mvo> I just wanted to confirm that its not something crazy with my test box
[16:33] <jibel> mvo, cool. thanks for testing.
[16:50] <jibel> qa meeting in 10mn on #ubuntu-meeting
[16:56] <charlie-tca> hm, I can not make ubuntu alternate image work on one computer here. It refuses to boot the dvd
[16:58] <charlie-tca> jibel: what do we do with this? Out of my four systems, the ubuntu alternate will not work on one system
[16:59] <PaoloRotolo> hi all
[16:59] <jibel> charlie-tca, report it, and add the specs of your system. Is it the 1rst time ? bad dvd drive or controller ?
[16:59] <charlie-tca> moved the dvd drive to a different system and it worked with the same disc
[17:00] <charlie-tca> xubuntu alternate burned to dvd works
[17:00] <jibel> charlie-tca, motherboard controller ?
[17:00] <charlie-tca> Wouldn't that fail with any dvd?
[17:00] <jibel> charlie-tca, yes it would
[17:00] <charlie-tca> It is very consistent. Only the Ubuntu alternate fails
[17:01] <charlie-tca> I will report it as system specific
[17:01] <jibel> but if the exact same dvd works on other systems, the only difference is hardware, might be a kernel issue ?
[17:01]  * charlie-tca is going crazy with this
[17:01] <jibel> charlie-tca, how about a1 alternate ?
[17:01] <charlie-tca> could be
[17:01] <charlie-tca> everything worked
[17:01] <charlie-tca> a1, even kubuntu installed on it
[17:02] <charlie-tca> But xubuntu works, and it uses the same kernel
[17:03] <hggdh> jibel: my libvirt is really borked :-(
[17:03] <charlie-tca> I moved the dvd drive with disc to another system and it worked
[17:04] <jibel> aren't supposed to have a qa meeting right now on #ubuntu-meeting ? I'm feeling lonely there :(
[18:17] <hggdh> shouldn't we update the calendar with the correct call for the QA meeting? We still have two entries, one for 1800-1900 and one for 1700-1800
[18:18] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all
[18:21] <hggdh> jibel: I am seeing segfaults on unity-2d-launch (alternate, AMD64). Is it known?
[18:55] <njin> PaoloRotolo: hello friend
[18:56] <PaoloRotolo> njin, hi :)
[19:40] <charlie-tca> I got Ubuntu Alternate 386 except ltsp; I can not do that test
[19:56] <skaet> jibel, around?
[20:34] <charlie-tca> both ubuntustudio images fail
[20:34] <charlie-tca> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:34] <charlie-tca> gnome-panel : Breaks: libpanel-applet2-0 but 1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.5 is to be installed
[20:34] <charlie-tca> liblash-compat-1 : Breaks: lashd but 0.6.0~rc2-5build1 is to be installed
[20:34] <charlie-tca> filing bug now
[20:35] <charlie-tca> skaet: ^  ^  ^
[20:35] <skaet> charlie-tca, ack.  thanks


[18:25] <tgp1994> Hi everyone, hope I can ask a potentially dumb question here regarding apache. I recently had to restore my virtual machine (Ubuntu server 20.04.2) from a backup due to a corruption issue, and so far everything seems nominal. I can access a webservice from my phone, but if I try to access it from my
[18:25] <tgp1994> out or report that the connection was reset. I can ping the virutal machine, and I can see that port 443 is open. But for some reason my browsers cannot get a response. The access.log indicated my phone is accessing it, but there's no mention of my desktop. Does anyone have any idea what's going on?
[18:25] <tgp1994> desktop, my browsers (Edge and Firefox) will time
[18:29] <tgp1994> Update: running wireshark, I see the initial GET then a bunch of TCP retransmission packets and "spurious retransmission" packets along with a few TCP Dup ACK packets. Odd...
[18:30] <tgp1994> Finally rounded out with a reset.
[18:38] <tgp1994_> Huh, here's interesting. I disabled IPv6 on my machine, then I was able to connect. When I re-enabled IPv6, I'm still able to browse just fine. Something seems off, but at least it's working now.
[18:39] <tomreyn> part of your initial message was apparently lost in the line break
[18:41] <tgp1994_> tomreyn: Ah, shoot. When I switched off IPv6 my IRC client forgot everything so I can't repaste, but TL;DR is my desktop couldn't connect to apache2 and was timing out/getting connection reset. when I disabled IPv6 it started working, and now when I enabled it, it still works... no idea what's going
[18:41] <tgp1994_> on.
[18:43] <tomreyn> chances are the web server or its host isn't configured to listen on ipv6 then
[18:44] <tomreyn> (or doesn't have an ipv6 stack in the first place)
[18:44] <tgp1994_> I'm not sure about that, because my phone was able to connect fine and even my desktop is working fine now over IPv6, too. I want to chalk it up to Windows 10 just being windows....
[19:07] <tomreyn> right, then my wild guess was incorrect
[20:08] <tgp1994_> Sorry, I think I may need to ask another dumb question: How do control what TTY ubuntu server boots to? Currently when booting, it will stay in the dmesg TTY (7) but I'd prefer it if it'd switch to TTY1 at the first opportunity.
[21:00] <xue> hi
[21:00] <xue> i had really old usb wifi dongle and it is not well supported by netplan
[21:01] <xue> can someone tell me, which of the serices i should disable to run connman?
[21:01] <xue> its clean installation, im just not daily systemd user so i have troubles to look through current config
[21:15] <shibboleth> get rid of netplan?
[21:15] <shibboleth> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1031709/ubuntu-18-04-switch-back-to-etc-network-interfaces
[21:16] <xue> connman has its own dhcp implementation so i need to turn that off
[21:17] <xue> basically everything that is used to manage intenet connection
[21:45] <xue> gsker: hi
[21:45] <xue> ive been waiting here
[21:46] <xue> │23:00:05        xue | hi
[21:52] <patdk-lap> very odd
[21:53] <patdk-lap> I have moved everything over to netplan, mainly cause it's configuration is not as insanely large and confusing as network interfaces, just a few getyas to resolve
[21:53] <patdk-lap> for awhile there the mtu issue and also interface renaming
[21:59] <oerheks> patdk-lap, we found out in #ubuntu that 'not well supported by netplan' is not true, just a choice
[22:00] <xue> gsker: please defend me
[22:03] <xue> patdk-lap: you wanna hear whole story?
[22:04] <patdk-lap> not really
[22:04] <xue> tl;dr dongle is old
[22:05] <patdk-lap> old makes no sense, old generally means well supported, cause it's had time to get support
[22:05] <patdk-lap> and wifi stack is very known, so that should be only a driver issue
[22:05] <patdk-lap> but then you went on about a dhcp issue, but then netplan doesn't deal with dhcp so
[22:06] <patdk-lap> for me, pure netplan issue, setting mtu was completely broken, unless mac address was specifified, though that appears to have been fixed at one point ,cause it's no longer an issue for me
[22:07] <patdk-lap> renaming, still an issue, if another interface is using that name, it just completely fails, and doesn't move the other one out of the way, even if you try to rename both
[22:08] <patdk-lap> renaming is a requirement though, as corosync/pacemaker needs consistant names across hosts


[19:08] <CarstenG> Hi at all
[19:08] <CarstenG> Someone there?
[19:26] <cqfd93> hi, CarstenG!
[19:27] <CarstenG> Hi Sylvie.
[19:27] <CarstenG> I just do some screenshots for the Ubuntu One section.
[19:27] <cqfd93> great!
[19:28] <CarstenG> I have done figure 3.30 and 3.31.
[19:28] <cqfd93> did you already push them?
[19:28] <CarstenG> I used for this figures my own U1 account.
[19:28] <CarstenG> No, not jet
[19:28] <CarstenG> yet
[19:29] <CarstenG> ... and I have German texts at the buttons...
[19:29] <cqfd93> :-(
[19:30] <CarstenG> Where you see "Next", "Back", and "Finish" in the quantal screenshot, I have German translation.
[19:30] <cqfd93> It's
[19:30] <cqfd93> oops!
[19:30] <CarstenG> I have a pure raring installation on my old laptop there is no german langpack installed.
[19:31] <CarstenG> I'm not sure, who or what tells U1 to use another language at these buttons....
[19:31] <cqfd93> maybe you could cheat and edit the screenshots with The Gimp?
[19:31] <CarstenG> strange.
[19:31] <CarstenG> Well, I could try it.
[19:32] <cqfd93> you said you used your U1 account, this is probably the reason
[19:34] <CarstenG> Maybe.
[19:35] <CarstenG> But I see no language setting in the account.
[19:35] <CarstenG> Do you have an U1 account?
[19:35] <cqfd93> yes
[19:35] <CarstenG> So it would be cool if you could try it with your account
[19:36] <CarstenG> if you get there French translation, we may have found a bug...
[19:36] <cqfd93> I could give it a try, but on the virtual machine it will probably be very slow
[19:38] <cqfd93> what are the complete names of 3.30 and 3.31?
[19:39] <CarstenG> 03-U1-setup-sync.png and 03-U1-setup-sync-select-empty.png
[19:39] <CarstenG> ok, some are uploaded to rev 170
[19:39] <manualbot> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/raring/revision/170 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/raring -r 170
[19:40] <CarstenG> (no, not these we are talking about)
[19:40] <cqfd93> ok
[19:41] <CarstenG> are you familiar with GIMP?
[19:42] <CarstenG> Then maybe I could send you the German version and you cheat them?
[19:42] <cqfd93> I'm familiar with Gimp, I've been using it a lot for cropping screenshots and... cheating :-)
[19:43] <cqfd93> do you want to email me your screenshots?
[19:43] <CarstenG> yes, or do you want to try it first with your own account?
[19:44] <CarstenG> ... to make them again?
[19:44] <cqfd93> it may be easier to try using yours first
[19:46] <CarstenG> ok
[19:46] <CarstenG> one moment..
[19:47] <CarstenG> ... and sent.
[19:49] <cqfd93> ok
[19:51] <cqfd93> just got your email, thank you
[19:51] <CarstenG> thank you!
[19:55] <cqfd93> I guess Zurück and Abschliessen mean back and finish?
[19:55] <cqfd93> And Weiter is next?
[19:56] <CarstenG> Yes
[19:56] <CarstenG> right.
[19:56] <cqfd93> OK
[19:56] <cqfd93> Now tu cheat :-)
[19:57] <cqfd93> Back in a moment
[20:00] <CarstenG> nice :-)
[20:04] <cqfd93> Done! Check out your email
[20:10] <CarstenG> Great!
[20:10] <CarstenG> Thanks a lot.
[20:11] <cqfd93> you're welcome!
[20:11] <CarstenG> Ok, 3 screenshot for U1 left...
[20:11] <cqfd93> good!
[21:07] <CarstenG> ok, done.
[21:08] <CarstenG> Some days ago you mentioned the "Additional Drivers" screenshot. You had only the hardware from the VM.
[21:09] <cqfd93> Right
[21:10] <CarstenG> Should I update this with my hardware? I have a proprietary software modem in my laptop, which is mentioned in this tab.
[21:11] <cqfd93> oh yes, it would be much better. Go ahead!
[21:22] <CarstenG> ok, done.
[21:23] <CarstenG> So, we have now only 2 screenshots left for the chatting...
[21:24] <CarstenG> I thought, Mehmet Kani would update these with the right theme...
[21:24] <CarstenG> But well, it's time for bed now...
[21:24] <CarstenG> see you tomorrow.
[21:27] <cqfd93> Good night!


[01:00] <blr> wgrant: do you think it is okay to refer to the project vcs as 'default vcs' in the code? (Understandably we should avoid that in the UI)
[01:01] <blr> I think it does add some clarity, given we have 'rcs' floating around in a similar context.
[01:19] <wgrant> blr: Oh yeah, in the code that definitely makes sense.
[04:42] <wgrant> Non-topological revision logs are the worst.
[05:43] <blr> wgrant: there's some very willful ignorance of YUI's selectors in this js.
[05:44] <blr> amusing
[05:45] <wgrant> blr: Oh?
[05:46] <blr> wgrant: heh in a few places where Y.one would have been decidedly easier, but perhaps they were forward thinking!
[05:51] <wgrant> blr: If it makes more sense to fix it, by all means.