[07:49] <JKeller1068> Robbie_Crash, I had the same problem with a pe2400 with the onboard perc.  The only fix was a firmware upgrade (for me).
[07:49] <kdorf> SuperQ: I do it for reasons other than playing warcraft: torrents (to prevent throttling) and for anonymity purposes online
[07:49] <SuperQ> kdorf: oh..
[07:49] <SuperQ> I wonder if you could do something silly with iptables
[07:49] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il it's nothing to boot into. It's because I'm using a PCI IDE card, which makes the device enumeration all squirly. So grub's trying to boot from say hd0 but is actually on hd1
[07:49] <DOOM_NX> good morning everyone :)
[07:49] <SuperQ> kdorf: if you know the port numbers, you could do some packet re-writing
[07:50] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: can you change it manually?
[07:50] <globe> can anybody explain to me why Upstart commands always fail from within a cron job?
[07:50] <ay^> yeah
[07:50] <kdorf> SuperQ: I'm not that familiar with networking, I just learned about rerouting traffic specifically for this and that was like two days ago :)
[07:50] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il yeah, but I can't re-run grub after booting into the live cd and then chrooting and rewriting the device.map file
[07:51] <chronographer> well that didn't work. So I still am using nv drivers for my FX5600 while the nvidia drivers cause blurring. using nvidia-glx-legacy causes X to not start at all.
[07:51] <SuperQ> kdorf: yea, I know what needs to be done, but extracting it from my brain right now would be difficult
[07:51] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: why not?
[07:51] <ay^> but you can change it in the grub-menu Robbie_Crash
[07:51] <SuperQ> kdorf: technically I'm still working, primary oncall shift
[07:51] <kdorf> SuperQ: it's no big. I'm sure it's probably because PPTP doesn't support UDP
[07:51] <kdorf> OpenVPN does, so I'll upgrade and it should work.
[07:51] <chronographer> I just looked at nvidia cards on ebay and a higher numbered agp card than mine is >$60 so that is a bit much for a test
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il as soon as I do grub --device-map=device.map I'm told grub's not a valid program
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> nor is sudo
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> nor is anything else
[07:52] <SuperQ> kdorf: no, pptp supports UDP just fine
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> which I'm assuming means that it's not finding my var partition.
[07:52] <SuperQ> kdorf: atleast, it should
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> which means I should probably mount /dev/sda3 to /var in there
[07:52] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: yea, it seems so
[07:53] <SuperQ> kdorf: I just guess no traffic is getting routed out your tunnel that well
[07:53] <Robbie_Crash> gah... what a convoluted mess
[07:53] <chronographer> anyone got ideas on how to diagnose my problem?
[07:53] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: and fix your $path
[07:53] <SuperQ> kdorf: we should really take this to another forum
[07:53] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il I'm not sure how to fix $path without being able to get into the system?
[07:53] <kdorf> SuperQ: I dunno, this guy from the company told me it didn't
[07:53] <kdorf> and I suppose he could be lying
[07:54] <aurehman> hi... i've just install apache2 from apt-get install apache2... where are the web files and httpd.conf file?
[07:54] <kdorf> but being that it IS microsoft
[07:54] <kdorf> it wouldn't surprise me
[07:54] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: oh, no, I meant if you manually mount /var, then you'd probably better add to your $path as well
[07:54] <djay-il> of course you can't do that without getting into the system first
[07:54] <ay^> Robbie_Crash: Still, can't you change what hd grub boots of in the menu of grub?
[07:54] <ay^> By pressing ESC and then E
[07:55] <SuperQ> kdorf: I would have to see tcpdump to tell
[07:55] <djay-il> ay^: no, he doesn't get the menu
[07:55] <Robbie_Crash> ay^ I fail before I even get stage 1.5 loaded
[07:55] <DarkBlade-DX> s
[07:55] <DarkBlade-DX> sd
[07:55] <ay^> oh
[07:55] <Robbie_Crash> yeah :(
[07:55] <kdorf> hmm
[07:55] <Godkas> SuperQ: is there a dvd iso? i only found the livecd
[07:55] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: hold on
[07:55] <Rat409> root (hdx,y)
[07:55] <ay^> you could always try to boot into a livecdsystem
[07:55] <ay^> such as say DSL
[07:56] <kdorf> SuperQ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers port #1723
[07:56] <Rat409> setup (hd0)
[07:56] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: where is the grub installed?
[07:56] <ay^> boot off to memory and then run grub-setup
[07:56] <SuperQ> Godkas: there are some DVD isos.  But you don't need them
[07:56] <SuperQ> Godkas: all the base stuff fits on one CD
[07:56] <Godkas> even wifi
[07:56] <Godkas> ?
[07:56] <Robbie_Crash> ay^ I've already booted into a live system, but I can't run grub after altering my device.map and menu.lst
[07:56] <SuperQ> Godkas: wifi, openoffice, everything
[07:56] <Godkas> nice
[07:56] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il let's say that / is /dev/sda
[07:56] <Rat409> ohh,use the live-cd's grub
[07:57] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: no no, what I mean is on which device grub itself is installed...
[07:57] <SuperQ> Godkas: of course there are 1000s of things in the extended repository
[07:57] <SuperQ> Godkas: but all the commonly used apps are in main
[07:57] <Godkas> i hopes :O
[07:58] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il I'm not sure what you mean? The physical hdd? It's on the pci ide card.
[07:58] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: I'm asking because I'd like to understand the setup you have. So correct me if I'm wrong:
[07:58] <martman> does something overide .profile files? im trying to add a dir to my path var and a echo show it never gets added
[07:58] <Robbie_Crash> hd8 I guess it would be according to grub
[07:58] <djay-il> 1. you have grub on PCI-IDE which is recognized as hd8
[07:59] <djay-il> 2. you have / which is on /dev/sd0
[07:59] <djay-il> 3. When you boot, grub expects itself to be on /dev/hda0 and thus fails
[07:59] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: is that correct?
[07:59] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945&page=26 last post explains everything better than I probably can in here.
[07:59]  * djay-il checks
[08:00] <martman> ?
[08:01] <Robbie_Crash> I have grub on pci-ide which is hd3 _right now_, but in two weeks when all hardware is in, will be hd8
[08:01] <Robbie_Crash> / is on the same partition, same drive, same everything
[08:02] <Robbie_Crash> when I boot, I have no idea what grub expects of itself, but that seems like what it's probably doing
[08:02] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: ok, got the setup
[08:02] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, is this still in the context of "error 17" ?
[08:02] <Robbie_Crash> UncleRemus yes
[08:02] <Robbie_Crash> er
[08:02] <Robbie_Crash> unop_
[08:02] <djay-il> unop yes
[08:02] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: then I believe you need to reinstall grub on pci ide card
[08:03] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, error 17 usually means that the partition is detected but the filesystem it contains is not recognized .. so it'd be better if you can do an offline fsck on the filesystem and/or repair grub there
[08:03] <djay-il> because it does read the grub (as you can get to the 1.5 stage), but doesn't find other stuff.
[08:03] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il I've already reinstalled everything on pci-ide
[08:03] <Robbie_Crash> like totally new partitioning scheme and the whole deal
[08:03] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: no, not everything - just grub
[08:03] <martman> ugggg
[08:04] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html
[08:04] <djay-il> it has to be set up correctly with its own scheme. It has to be able to read its files - so it has to read the correct partitions
[08:04] <martman> you cant just add stuff to /etc/environment?
[08:04] <Robbie_Crash> thanks, looking now, hopefully will have it figured out in a bit
[08:04] <martman> how they hell do you add something to path if .profile and that wont work
[08:05] <unop_> martman, ~/.bashrc
[08:05] <Robbie_Crash> Can grub read XFS?
[08:05] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: hm, wow, xfs
[08:05] <Robbie_Crash> haha, is that my issue
[08:05] <Robbie_Crash> ?
[08:05] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: I always use ext2 for grub and save myself a lot of headache
[08:05] <LSD|Ninja> yes it can
[08:05] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, that is your problem, i dont think grub is set to handle xfs
[08:06] <djay-il> unop_: lets check :-)
[08:06] <LSD|Ninja> the problem is mote than likely that that silly grub-install POS ubuntu insists on using doesn't like it
[08:06] <Robbie_Crash> I mean, / and /boot are on the same partition and it is ext3
[08:06] <Robbie_Crash> however, my /var /usr and /home are all xfs
[08:06] <Robbie_Crash> but that shouldn't matter at boot should it?
[08:07] <Robbie_Crash> like, when Grub is doing its deal
[08:07] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: it does
[08:07] <djay-il> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Filesystem.html#Filesystem
[08:07] <ay^> I dunno, but I used to have some minor problems with grub when I had it like that
[08:07] <ay^> tho I had som eother error
[08:07] <ay^> I think
[08:07] <LSD|Ninja> grub will boot from xfs but grub-install won't work on an xfs volume
[08:07] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, even grub needs to understand the filesystem the two stages are on, even it needs to read files, so yes, the filesystem does matter
[08:07] <LSD|Ninja> simple solution: doitch grub-install
[08:07]  * Godkas kicks dvd burner to make it go faster
[08:08] <djay-il> unop_: it supports xfs
[08:08] <unop_> djay-il, i didnt say it doesnt
[08:08] <djay-il> ok
[08:08] <kdorf> Godkas: Not a good idea, you probably just made a coaster.
[08:08] <kdorf> XD
[08:09] <Godkas> lol
[08:09] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: grub is supposed to read /boot
[08:09] <Robbie_Crash> right, and /boot is ext3
[08:09] <djay-il> that's the partition it cares about
[08:09] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: aha!
[08:10] <djay-il> now, ext3 is NOT supported :-)
[08:10] <djay-il> take a look:
[08:10] <Robbie_Crash> gfd... Really?
[08:10] <djay-il> Support multiple filesystem types transparently, plus a useful explicit blocklist notation. The currently supported filesystem types are BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32, Minix fs, Linux ext2fs, ReiserFS, JFS, XFS, and VSTa fs.
[08:10] <Robbie_Crash> So I do need to reinstall everything?
[08:10]  * Robbie_Crash explodes
[08:10] <djay-il> no, just /boot probably :-)
[08:10] <ay^> ^^
[08:10] <kate321> Hello, I have Ubuntu 7.10 gusty , when i am trying to play movies on my ubuntu , i can see the movies only in black & white colors ?
[08:11] <Robbie_Crash> yeah, but /boot is now on / because I couldn't get anything to work
[08:11] <djay-il> well,
[08:11] <djay-il> can you create a new partition?
[08:11] <unop_> djay-il, grub works fine with ext3 /boot .. mine is ext3
[08:11] <djay-il> unop_: that was from grub manual
[08:11] <unop_> djay-il, ext3 is nothing but ext2 with a journal slapped on .. and ext2 is well supported
[08:12] <djay-il> unop_: I know, but that's what manual says. I think I had a bunch of problems few years ago with /boot being ext3, so I only use ext2 now
[08:12] <pbne> hey..does anyone here know anything about dbus and hal?
[08:12] <djay-il> pbne: some
[08:12] <unop_> djay-il, $ mount | grep -i "/boot" : /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw,user_xattr)
[08:13] <Robbie_Crash> So I'm back to somwehere, reinstalling grub?
[08:13] <djay-il> unop_: and your grub config is on /boot ?
[08:13] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: yes
[08:13] <unop_> djay-il, off course
[08:13] <pbne> well when I login I get this error 'HAL: failed to initialize' and I've been looking for a fix but none of them applies to my system
[08:13] <djay-il> unop_: RH uses /etc
[08:13] <unop_> why are we talking RH here, this is #ubuntu :)
[08:14] <djay-il> unop_: just to highlight the possibly unusual configurations
[08:14] <pbne> as far as I've understood, its an issue with dbus
[08:14] <djay-il> pbne: I had this once, and the problem was in BIOS settings
[08:14] <Godkas> :O
[08:14] <djay-il> ACPI if I remember correctly
[08:14] <Ollie> Hey guys
[08:14] <unop_> djay-il, if i had an unusual configuration, i would have told you about it .. but no, grub is setup the standard ubuntu way
[08:15] <Ollie> Finally managed to boot Ubuntu
[08:15] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: yea, I'd say so. When you install grub, it usually says "setup ok", which means it could read and understand the partition table
[08:15] <djay-il> unop_: OK :-)
[08:16] <Ollie> I have a Live-CD of 6.02 Ubuntu, that I can boot on my Mac, if I install it onto my Mac how easy is it to uninstall Ubuntu?
[08:16] <pbne> djay-il: I'll try disabling acpi then..brb
[08:16] <djay-il> pbne: or enabling it. I don't remember what exactly that was - check what makes sense to you :-)
[08:17] <Ollie> I have a Live-CD of 6.02 Ubuntu, that I can boot on my Mac, if I install it onto my Mac how easy is it to uninstall Ubuntu?
[08:17] <djay-il> unop_, Robbie_Crash : /boot can be ext3 probably, but I'd use ext2 to see if it helps.
[08:18] <unop_> djay-il, it doesn't really matter, grub will see an ext3 partition as ext2 anyway
[08:19] <djay-il> unop_: oh, ok
[08:20] <Ollie> I have a Live-CD of 6.02 Ubuntu, that I can boot on my Mac, if I install it onto my Mac how easy is it to uninstall Ubuntu?
[08:20] <zero> hey
[08:20] <zero> listen
[08:21] <Robbie_Crash> ugh, well two down. Now I'm error 15
[08:21] <djay-il> ok, back to work :-)
[08:21] <nathan_> For some reason my ubuntu installation doesn't automagically connect to my wlan router on boot, the interfaces file has "auto ath0; iface ath0 inet dhcp" in it, which seems right to me, any ideas what else might be wrong?
[08:21] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: hehe
[08:21] <zero> heh, umm how do I mess with ACPI to make my backlight dim when i unplug my laptop
[08:21] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: that means partitions are ok, but it can't find the files
[08:22] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il yeah, what files?
[08:22] <kdorf> zero: System -> Preferences -> Power Management should do the trick (if you're in Gnome)
[08:22] <djay-il> grub configuration
[08:22] <Ollie> Is anyone good with Mac Ubuntu?
[08:22] <zero> kdorf, that doesnt let me make my backlight dim?
[08:22] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il so what now then?
[08:22] <unop__> Robbie_Crash, error 15 is "file not found" as per http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html
[08:22] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: let me think for a moment
[08:22] <kdorf> zero: That's odd, it shows up on my laptop :(
[08:23] <kdorf> zero: Then again, I'm using Hardy and not Gutsy.
[08:23] <zero> kdorf yeah, it seems my laptop is the only one ive ever seen it not work automatically on
[08:23] <kdorf> so that could be it
[08:23] <zero> kdorf: didnt work on hardy either
[08:23] <Robbie_Crash> unop_ yeah, I just have no idea what to do about that, this is the only difficulty I've had in such matters, and I'm really quite new to Linux
[08:23] <kdorf> interesting.
[08:23] <Robbie_Crash> brb
[08:24] <kdorf> I dunno what to say; my first instinct would be that the issue w/ HPs where ACPI gets disabled could be a culprit, assuming you have one
[08:24] <kdorf> but my lappy is an HP and it works so :'(
[08:24] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: when you're back, take a look at Gentoo's manual: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml, look at error 15
[08:24] <unop__> Robbie_Crash, ok, what it means is that the vmlinuz/initrd image in the isn't found - the best thing you can do is boot the system offline (via a live cd) and attempt to repair grub that way
[08:24] <zero> Toshiba
[08:25] <bullgard4> unop__: In Feisty I programmed 3 of my multimedia keys to call often used application programs. Upgrading to Gutsy lost this functionality. How to program my multimedia keys so that their function will not get lost when upgrading Ubuntu?
[08:26] <A[D]minS> !xmms
[08:26] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[08:26] <A[D]minS> !multimedia
[08:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:27] <stintage> hai guiz wats goin on?
[08:27] <nathan_> when I click "open in browser" in xchat2, it opens lynx instead of firefox because lynx was the last one I installed I guess, how to change that?
[08:27] <zero> stintage eats cock for breakfast
[08:27] <stintage> Hey zero
[08:27] <stintage> ...
[08:27] <stintage> lemonparty.com
[08:28] <stintage> just for you
[08:28] <zero> YAY
[08:28] <kdorf> stintage: it's .org, fail :(
[08:28] <danhans223> does anyone what programs is good for sharing files among users?
[08:28] <stintage> how do i shot web?
[08:29] <zero> hey is it alright to have xubuntu and ubuntu installed congruently?
[08:29] <stintage> My websight wont show up in ubuntu
[08:29] <unop> !language | zero
[08:29] <ubotu> zero: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:29] <stdin> nathan_: it should open whatever /use/bin/www-browser points to, you can set it with "sudo update-alternatives --config www-browser"
[08:29] <stintage> wtf seriously
[08:29] <zero> stintage try hitting alt+f4
[08:29] <unop> stintage, language
[08:29] <stintage> it should work fine but it dosent
[08:29] <nathan_> stdin, thanks alot !
[08:30] <zero> hey is it alright to have xubuntu and ubuntu installed congruently?
[08:30] <stintage> unop
[08:30] <stintage> Suck my dick
[08:30] <Robbie_Crash> unop djay-il I think what it was was that I changed my menu.lst to hd0,1 before, so I think I just need to change it back
[08:30] <stintage> bustychicks.com
[08:30] <stdin> !ops | stintage
[08:30] <ubotu> stintage: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[08:30] <stintage> is my websight
[08:30] <unop> !ops | stintage
[08:30] <stintage> Ops
[08:30] <stintage> ops
[08:30] <stintage> ops
[08:30] <stintage> ops
[08:30] <FloodBot1> stintage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <gurpreet> please tell me some irc channel where i can ask questions related to programming
[08:30] <unop> nathan_, try this - sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubufox firefox
[08:31] <nathan_> stdin, it only gives me lynx and w3m as options thou
[08:31] <stdin> nathan_: ahh, seems that only cli browsers set that, all the GUI ones use x-www-browser
[08:32] <nathan_> hm, so how would I fix it? :)
[08:32] <stdin> nathan_: don't think you can, isn't there an "Open link in Firefox" option?
[08:33] <nathan_> nope, only copy selected link and open in browser
[08:34] <unop> nathan_, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-default-browser-and-email-client-in-ubuntu/
[08:35] <nathan_> cheers, but now I will have to surf that in lynx xD
[08:35] <ay^> I use elinks myself
[08:35] <corinth> Anyone know of a good tool to minimize programs to the system tray? I want to be able to minimize Evolution to the system tray.
[08:35] <xeer> does Ubuntu have any DLNA support? aka, streaming audio/video to PS3/XBox360?
[08:36] <Sturmeh> :\
[08:36] <Robbie_Crash> unop djay-il THANKS!
[08:36] <Robbie_Crash> ay^ you too!
[08:36] <unop> nathan_, heh, the command you want is - gnome-default-applications-properties
[08:36] <ay^> :D
[08:36] <unop> Robbie_Crash, so what did you do?
[08:36] <nathan_> unop, yes if I was still on gnome :P
[08:36] <ay^> Robbie_Crash: I don't even remember what I did, but your welcome!
[08:36] <Bidget> HELP
[08:37] <nathan_> does it also work if I have fluxbox as my WM ?
[08:37] <unop> nathan_, what are you on?
[08:37]  * ay^ HELPS
[08:37] <Bidget> can someone give me a command to run from a console that will give me back 1600x1200??
[08:37] <Bidget> somehow my screen went to 640x480 and I cant get it back cause my screen isnt big enough for my display options window
[08:37] <unop> nathan_, hmm, i should imagine so - try it out
[08:37] <ay^> Bidget: Yeah that is a nice bug
[08:37] <Robbie_Crash> unop when I was first trying to get everything working, I followed the instructions on that forum post, and edited my menu.lst. But it didn't get changed back after reconfiguring grub, so I needded to go into the live cd, change it from hd3,1 to hd0,0
[08:37] <unop> !res | Bidget
[08:37] <ubotu> Bidget: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:37] <Bidget> ay^, :(
[08:37] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: sure, np
[08:38] <Bidget> well I dont want to restart it... I just want a command to change my resolution
[08:38] <Robbie_Crash> now I'm not sure that I'm going to have a working system, but at least it's fscking my disks now, so there's a start
[08:38] <Bidget> isnt that possible?
[08:38] <kate321> Hello, does it possible to use "wget " as web crawler ? (offline browser) ?
[08:38] <unop> Bidget, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[08:38] <Bidget> I would click on the link but the webpage will be too big for my monitor
[08:38] <Bidget> thanks
[08:38] <Wobbo> my webcam is built in up-side-down in my laptop, is there any way of configuring v4l to correct this?
[08:38] <djay-il> any hardware people in the house?
[08:38] <ay^> Bidget: mind you I constantly use 800x600 :(
[08:39] <unop> kate321, well, browser or crawler? do you want to interact with it or do you just want to download stuff?
[08:39] <djay-il> I need a help choosing between Q6600 and Q9300
[08:39] <unop> djay-il, best to ask in #hardware i should think
[08:40] <djay-il> unop
[08:40] <Wobbo> djay-il: why not the new intel's? Q9450 andso
[08:40] <djay-il> will try :-)
[08:40] <nathan_> unop, firefox was already set as default there =/
[08:40] <kate321> unop: download stuff
[08:40] <djay-il> Wobbo: well, I'm not after the strongest
[08:40] <nathan_> xchat2.conf doesn't give me a whole lot to work with either
[08:40] <djay-il> I'm after the longevity
[08:40] <unop> kate321, sure, wget is just for that job then
[08:40] <djay-il> I need it to be fine for ~3 years
[08:41] <kate321> unop: does it possible for wget to act like a crawler and to download/store full website on my computer ?
[08:42] <unop> kate321, sure, but it has many options such as filtering, timeouts, retries etc all of which you might need -- best to read the wget manpage for all those options
[08:42] <Wobbo> isn't Q9450 stronger, except when your an overclocker
[08:42] <unop> kate321, but the simplest form is -  wget -r http://example.com/path/
[08:43] <kate321> unop: can i define for wget whice files i would like to extract from the website ? (let say i want just PDF files to be saved)
[08:43] <djay-il> Wobbo: indeed, but its the most expensive one as well
[08:44] <unop> kate321, sure
[08:45] <kate321> unop: thanks for your help , i will try to use the example "wget -r http://example.com/path/" can you tell whice option i should add in order to download just PDF files ?
[08:46] <mo> Hey
[08:46] <mo> Can you kick KrazyWolf out pleasE?
[08:46] <mo> I forgot to log it out before switchin comps
[08:47] <mo> nvm lol
[08:47] <unop> kate321, i think it is -A .. but i am not sure, have a look at.  man wget
[08:47] <mo> Anyways, This is KrazyWolf
[08:48] <DJones> mo type /msg nickserv ghost KrazyWolf <password> which will kill the original one and let you change nicks
[08:49] <mo> wow
[08:49] <mo> I'm in
[08:49] <mo> I got ubuntu to run on my laptop
[08:49] <arquebus> derek, what language is that in?
[08:49] <Ollie> Hey
[08:49] <Ollie> Right
[08:50] <mo> Hey I got into ubuntu :), and that ghost message isn't working :(
[08:50] <Ollie> I am creating a Live-CD of Ubuntu that I can run on my PPC Mac OS 9.2.2 and then I will install it.  How do  uninstall it later, for when I wish to use 9.2.2?
[08:51] <ay^> uninstall a livecd?
[08:51] <djay-il> ok, now back to work for real
[08:51] <djay-il> bye all
[08:51] <Ollie> No, uninstall Ubuntu
[08:51] <ay^> Bye djay-il!
[08:51] <unop> nathan_, have any luck so far?
[08:51] <ay^> Ollie: I dont understand
[08:51] <djay-il> cheers
[08:52] <unop> Ollie, you can't uninstall an operating system -- you either reinstall Mac OS X ontop of ubuntu to erase ubuntu or better, install ubuntu side by side with OS X so you can dual-boot
[08:53] <DJones> !ghost | mo Maybe I typed it wrong, try this
[08:53] <ubotu> mo Maybe I typed it wrong, try this: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[08:53] <Ollie> unop: Great, thanks
[08:53] <ay^> ^^
[08:53] <nathan_> unop, nope, not yet
[08:53] <sl> ciao
[08:53] <unop> Ollie, there are a great many guides out there on the net that show you how to dual boot OS X and ubuntu/linux
[08:53] <mo> iunno it keeps saying not registered
[08:53] <mo> wait, it isn't registered on this server
[08:54] <unop> nathan_, best thing to do then is.  sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[08:54] <mo> which means someone else might have the name registered?
[08:54] <DJones> mo, thats why, it needs to be a registered nick to work
[08:54] <Ollie> unop: I  will look at one of them, and when I get OS X, I will dual boot Ubuntu and OS X, will a 20GB HDD be enough?
[08:54] <ay^> Ollie: that will be tight
[08:54] <ay^> but it will WORK, but you wont have a lot of space left
[08:54] <mo> but than when i try to change to the nick ,it says its already inuse, and than i do a /whois and it has my info and says that nick is in this channel lol
[08:55] <Ollie> ay^:  Ok, cheers
[08:55] <Ollie> ay^:  Will buy a better one some time
[08:55] <corinth> Is there a way to have different wallpapers for different screens in GNOME? I know that it can't be done with a native tool, but can it be done with compiz-fusion or something else?
[08:55] <unop> Ollie, it also depends on how you partition the disk .. you'll have to be wise in how you split it to make the most out of the space
[08:56] <chmac> Noob question, is the next release of Ubuntu on track for 9 days time?
[08:56] <DJones> mo: I doubt you can do anything until you get back to the other computer, you could try asking in #freenode, they may be able to help, but I can't see it - As far as they would know, it could be somebody else
[08:56] <Ollie> unop: Will you be able to talk me through it, after I download it?
[08:57] <chmac> I'm a Fedora user but considering trialling Ubuntu and I'm keen to start with a new release if it's about to come out
[08:57] <unop> Ollie, unfortunately, i've only used a mac once and have no idea about its internals :) but if you use a guide/howo written for this purpose, you should be ok, if not one of us in here should be able to clarify anything you don't understand
[08:57] <Ollie> chmac: Yeah, only 10 days :)
[08:57] <chmac> Ollie: 9 according to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown :)
[08:57] <Ollie> unop: Cheers!  You have been great help
[08:57] <mike> is there an equivalent to a chkdsk for a wubi install?
[08:57] <Ollie> chmac: Well it was 10 yesterday :P
[08:58] <gramm> Any C++ gurus out there?  I am getting an exception about reading out-of-range of a vector when I check the range of the vector before reading it.  See here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63257/
[08:58] <diplomat> Hi everyone, looking for someone to help me get my sound working
[08:58] <unop> mike, within linux itself (and within wubi consequently) - fsck
[08:58] <chmac> :)
[08:58] <mike> ok ty
[08:58] <millertime_018> hey i'm trying to install windows at the same time with ubuntu
[08:58] <Ollie> Can someone (who knows Mac well) check this guide and tell me if it will be OK for me to refer to? http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-148617.html
[08:58] <millertime_018> can anyone tell me
[08:58] <unop> gramm, please try ##c++
[08:59] <millertime_018> does /dev/sda1 correspond
[08:59] <millertime_018> with partition 1?
[08:59] <Ziroda1> Anyone know a drug management application or any similar application for a Hospital?
[08:59] <diplomat> Hi everyone, looking for someone to help me get my sound working
[09:00] <millertime_018> what computer do you have diplomat?
[09:00] <gramm> unop: thanks
[09:00] <millertime_018> if its acer 5920 you're in luck
[09:00] <diplomat> i have assembled system. An asus g33 based board and intel processor
[09:00] <millertime_018> oh... no nope. idk
[09:01] <unop> Ollie, http://trainque.com/blog/2006/10/21/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-osx/
[09:01] <millertime_018> do you know much about partitioning?
[09:01] <millertime_018> does /dev/sda1 coorespond to partition 1
[09:01] <mike> i get a warning message that it may cuase sever file damage but it said I ran  e2fsck and not fsck which I enterd
[09:01] <Ollie> unop: Thanks unop!
[09:01] <millertime_018> HELLO?
[09:01] <diplomat> sda's are just names
[09:02] <chmac> Does Ubuntu offer torrent downloads?
[09:02] <diplomat> Yes,chmac
[09:02] <millertime_018> but see i'm trying to install windows at the same time with ubuntu
[09:02] <diplomat> i also have windows vista and xp on the same drive as ubuntu
[09:03] <diplomat> first i installed Xp, then vista and then ubuntu
[09:03] <millertime_018> and when it comes up to the install menu i need to know which one is which so i can install it and it won't overwrite stuff
[09:03] <lun4tic> hi
[09:03] <diplomat> i am not an expert to guide u if u are already in the middle of something
[09:04] <diplomat> i can only tell u what worked for me from the beginning
[09:04] <diplomat> Hi everyone, looking for someone to help me get my sound working
[09:04] <fisherman> I'm on a really crappy computer now, and about to set up ubuntu. Any tips for optimal performance when i'm installing ubuntu?
[09:04] <fisherman> like, what's a swap drive :s
[09:05] <lun4tic> does someone know how to remap mousebuttons?
[09:05] <DJones> !swap | fisherman
[09:05] <ubotu> fisherman: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[09:05] <lun4tic> i have a mx revolution from logitech and the buttons work under gnome but i want to remap them so i have the middle mousebutton mapped to button 9
[09:05] <diplomat> swap is memory on the harddisk and is used by ubuntu when ur ram memory is over
[09:06] <fisherman> Also, i've only got an old ubuntu 7.04 disk. when i install that will i be able to install updates up to the current version?
[09:06] <diplomat> its better to install a new version from scratch according to me
[09:06] <DJones> fisherman: yes you will, you'll be offered the chance to upgrade to 7.10 and then to 8.04 when its released
[09:07] <fisherman> Sounds great, thanks DJones.
[09:08] <chmac> Does one get the torrent files from torrent.ubuntu.com ? I take it /dvd/ is the normal release?
[09:08] <unop> fisherman, define "crappy" there in terms of hardware specifications
[09:09] <fisherman> 1.8ghz p4 with a nvidia 6200 running on agp 4x.
[09:09] <fisherman> with 512mb of SD ram
[09:09] <fisherman> oh, and a 160w psu :)
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> fisherman: sound like a fin pc to mew
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> me*
[09:10] <unop> fisherman, that's more than what i have and i didnt have to tweak much to get ubuntu working ok - but i did anyway
[09:10] <Shyde> chmac that's the hardy torrent though, which is still beta
[09:10] <fisherman> friends have beastly computer, and they rub it in my face :(
[09:10] <diplomat> Does anyone know how to carry out Step 4 of this tutorial? http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Quick_Install
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> fisherman: if it does what you need at a reasonable speed its just right
[09:10] <unop> fisherman, it depends again on what you want the computer to be doing
[09:10] <chmac> Shyde: Yeah, I'm guessing a new one comes out in 9 days right? :)
[09:10] <Shyde> chmac: yep
[09:10] <fisherman> unop: i'd like to be using it for some development but i also play games.
[09:10] <chmac> :)
[09:11] <fisherman> like quake, counter-strike.
[09:11] <fisherman> nothing new and fancy.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> diplomat: type sudo in front of the commands
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> fisherman: then its fine
[09:11] <fisherman> ^_^
[09:11] <unop> fisherman, hmm, i don't play games but i should imagine that your machine is quite capable of playing those two there
[09:11] <arstanj> hi
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> fisherman: you dont have to have the latest and fastest
[09:11] <arstanj> how to to change number of open files? (ulimit -n) permanently systemwide?
[09:12] <arstanj> /etc/security/limits.conf?
[09:12] <arstanj> write exactly what?
[09:12] <arstanj> * hard nofile 8192?
[09:12] <ay^> is it possible to launch applications in a screen on log-in? or boot?
[09:12] <unop> diplomat, there shouldnt be a need for you to compile alsa modules unless ubuntu does not have the module for your sound-card, is that the case?
[09:12] <unop> ay^, is that screen as in GNU screen?
[09:13] <diplomat> root@The-C2D-Machine:~# sudo modprobe snd-ens1371
[09:13] <ay^> uhm I think so, the app screen
[09:13] <diplomat> WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[09:13] <diplomat> FATAL: Error inserting snd_ens1371 (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[09:13] <ay^> :)
[09:13] <lun4tic> i have a mx revolution from logitech and the buttons work under gnome but i want to remap them so i have the middle mousebutton mapped to button 9. how do i do that?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> diplomat: why not just install alsa from repos?
[09:13] <lun4tic> are there any graphical tools to remap mousebuttons?
[09:13] <diplomat> i messed up my alsa last night and now sound is not working
[09:14] <ay^> unop: uhm I think so, the app screen
[09:15] <diplomat> here is my thread. I havent got any reply yet, so trying to mess up more myself....until i reach a stage where i have to install ubuntu all over again....sigh  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4715589#post4715589
[09:15] <unop> diplomat, well, what were you doing? it's easier to troubleshoot that than to compile your modules from source, chances are the new modules won't work if configurations don't permit
[09:15] <daire> when i went to sleep last night i left ubuntu running with deluge, pidgin, irssi, and blizzard patch downloader but when i woke up this morning the screen was blank which wasn't just a screensaver because it stayed blank even when i moved the mouse and pressed keys, i tried to turn it off by pressing the power down button on my pc, when i came back a few minutes later nothing had happened so i had to remove the power cable. when i turned it on i went into grub
[09:16] <daire> (oh and i'm running in low graphics mode now - should i do some maintenance?)
[09:16] <mengzihan> hello,every body
[09:16] <phrozen77> hi all, how comes that upon "apt-get install somepackage" i always have unmet dependencies?
[09:16] <nathan_> unop, got it: x-www-browser was invalid, it was set to firefox, not firefox-3.0 :)
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> daire: dont pull plugs from computers that are on they dont like it
[09:16] <daire> ActionParsnip: i figured that but it wouldn't turn off dude
[09:16] <kindofabuzz> kick it
[09:17] <daire> :O
[09:17] <kindofabuzz> lol
[09:17] <hyperstream> daire:  wow patch downloader?
[09:17] <daire> yes
[09:17] <ay^> unop: Now I have done some researc and it is GNU screen I'm winsing about
[09:18] <DJones> !repo | phrozen77 it might be that its trying to install something that needs an additional repo to be added
[09:18] <ubotu> phrozen77 it might be that its trying to install something that needs an additional repo to be added: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[09:18] <daire> i don't know if it finished, irssi is all i have running right now in recoery mode
[09:18] <mingers> hi, how can i message other users who are logged onto the system? (listed in who)
[09:18] <daire> !maintenance
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maintenance - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <daire> !recovery
[09:18] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[09:19] <daire> !crash
[09:19] <ubotu> For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[09:19] <ay^> I could configure it to start my screen sessions at startup, but I could only fit one app in each screen doing that..
[09:19] <hyperstream> daire: wine or cedega?
[09:19] <daire> wine
[09:19] <unop> ay^,  'screen command' launches the command in the first (and only) window - is that what you want?
[09:19] <phrozen77> DJones, i doubt libc6 and similar things need additional repos
[09:19] <ay^> well sort of
[09:19] <ay^> here is the long story
[09:20] <daire> hyperstream: do you think wine is the catalyst for the crash?
[09:20] <ay^> I connect to my workstation from my very old and superduper-old laptop using SSH and I run most of my apps form there in CLI
[09:20] <hyperstream> daire: i have no idea- anything is possible
[09:20] <ay^> But everytime I reboot the workstation I have to manually start each CLI app in their respective screen-session before Im good to go
[09:20] <DJones> phrozen77: you might just need to update your sources list, try sudo apt-get update before you try installing
[09:20] <Wobbo> anyone with experience configuring an uvcvideo driver, to do an horizontal flip (since my webcam is built up side down.
[09:20] <daire> hyperstream: also can i log back in in normal mode, or stay in recovery?
[09:20] <ay^> And I would enjoy having it automated
[09:21] <daire> is there some maintenance i'm supposed to do after a crash and removing the power cable?
[09:21] <phrozen77> DJones, you bet i did
[09:21] <daire> ay^: can't you use session manager to start things in terminal?
[09:21] <diplomat> here is my thread. I havent got any reply yet, so trying to mess up more myself....until i reach a stage where i have to install ubuntu all over again....sigh  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4715589#post4715589
[09:21] <hyperstream> daire: it sounds like your display card or settings or something dropped out
[09:21] <hyperstream> daire id boot into normal mode, and just reconfigure the screens and graphics
[09:22] <DJones> phrozen77: strange, I can only think there's something wrong either with you sources.list, or with the server you're downloading from, what are you trying to install
[09:22] <daire> but they're already configured
[09:22] <ay^> well I guess I could start the actuall screen session, with one app with such a command "screen -S programs1 irssi"
[09:22] <daire> i have it using nvidia restricted driver at max resolution
[09:22] <unop_> ay^, look into creating screen config files and/or the .screenrc file
[09:22] <ay^> daire: but the other programs i want in that screen wouldn't be in it
[09:22] <phrozen77> DJones, libapache2-mod-php5 - but that happens with every other package too so something is borked
[09:22] <daire> (on 7.04 i hadn't configured it properly for max res)
[09:22] <ay^> aha
[09:22] <ay^> unop_: thanks I'll get right on it
[09:23] <daire> ok guys i'm going to relog in normal mode
[09:23] <ay^> hmm perhaps I could just write some small shellscript and have that be run at startup..
[09:23] <DJones> phrozen77: All I can suggest is that you pastebin your sources list and if anybody can see whats wrong
[09:23] <unop_> ay^, http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/06/12/gnu-screen-and-my-screenrc/
[09:24] <ay^> unop_: thanks a bunch!
[09:25] <trippss> so i'm trying to diagnose my gateway laptop, whose synaptics touchpad doesn't work on return from standby, though it does work on return from hibernation. i've consulted the forums and played with the /sys/bus/platform/drivers/i8042/bind, etc. to no avail. ideas? How can I properly diagnose what's actually happening?
[09:25] <trippss> i'm running gutsy gibbon, btw
[09:25] <unop_> ay^, you could use a shell-script, sure but it's easier with a screen config file
[09:26] <phrozen77> DJones, http://pastebin.ca/985720 <- there you go
[09:26] <trippss> also note after coming out of standby, restarting x windows doesn't help
[09:26] <phrozen77> but i wonder if theres something wrong
[09:28] <DaveTarmac> hi all. I have managed to connect to my workplace over a PPTP VPN, but now I need to connect to a Mac with AFP shares. Can anyone tell me what I need to make this happen?
[09:28] <Ollie> When I install Ubuntu onto my Mac, and a week later I install OSX will I loose my Ubuntu data?
[09:28] <Ollie> In other words, will I still be able to boot Ubuntu?
[09:29] <arvind_khadri> how do i run a file without having to type "./"
[09:29] <arvind_khadri> Ollie you would need to re-install grub
[09:29] <diplomat> arvind bhai, which format?
[09:30] <Ollie> arvind_khadri: What the hell is grub :P
[09:30] <arvind_khadri> diplomat, means
[09:30] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, you mean an executable file?
[09:30] <arvind_khadri> Ollie, its a program which helps you booting into your choice of OS
[09:30] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, yeah
[09:31] <Ollie> arvind_khadri: But if I don't install grub, will it just boot OSX?
[09:31] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, to be precise a shell-script
[09:31] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, if you are trying to run an executable file it has to be in your path, otherwise you have to specify the path... hence the "./"
[09:31] <chmac> Anyone know if I can subscribe to ubuntu-announce by RSS instead of email?
[09:31] <diplomat> ollie, to make things easy, install OSX before instatlling ubuntu
[09:31] <chmac> It's probably google group archived somewhere is it? I might get an RSS feed that way...
[09:31] <arvind_khadri> Ollie, diplomat id correct
[09:32] <Ollie> diplomat, The thing is I don't have OSX yet,  and I only want Ubuntu until I get OSX
[09:32] <DJones> !info libc6 dapper
[09:32] <ubotu> libc6 (source: glibc): GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.5 (dapper), package size 4481 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[09:32] <arvind_khadri> Ollie then first install ubuntu
[09:32] <Ollie> Will do!  Cheers!
[09:32] <arvind_khadri> oliie get back to us when you have OSX
[09:32] <diplomat> Ollie, then if OSX corrupts ur GRUB, then there are various method to get ur grub back
[09:33] <Ollie> Ok, will worry about that later :P
[09:33] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, how to edit path
[09:33] <diplomat> cd FOLDER NAME
[09:34] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, if you want to do it permanently you can do it by adding a line in your ~/.bashrc file
[09:34] <DJones> phrozen77: I can't see why its not working, libc6 is supposed to be in main and you've got that in sources.list, the only time i've found something like that was when I had a non standard repo and I had 2 versions conflicting so neither was installed, I disabled the non standard repo and it worked, maybe try disabling the dotdeb repo's you've got
[09:34] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, lets assume put all your scripts in ~/scripts
[09:34] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, the file is in my home directory
[09:35] <laffinet> Hi I'm experiencing quite a long pause/freeze at shut down/restart. Does anyone know what causes this ?
[09:35] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, ok, then add "export PATH=$PATH:/home/USERNAME"  (sans quotes) to your .bashrc file
[09:36] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, do i need to add it to a particular section or just anywhere in the file
[09:36] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, though I recommend you make a ~/scripts folder instead... so your whole home directory won't run executables
[09:36] <DaveTarmac> I have managed to connect to my workplace over a PPTP VPN, but now I need to connect to a Mac with AFP shares. Can anyone tell me what I need to make this happen?
[09:37] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, anywhere is fine
[09:37] <dave11> !justify
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about justify - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, having your whole home directory in your path isn't particularly secure
[09:37] <prince_jammys> if you make a 'bin' directory in your home, it gets added to your path
[09:38] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, it didnt work
[09:38] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, you have to open a new terminal    .bashrc gets read then
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, yeah done
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, now about making things more secure
[09:39] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, ah... neat trick   <mental note>
[09:39] <prince_jammys> move the script to /usr/local/bin
[09:40] <prince_jammys> if you don't want your home to be in your path
[09:40] <prince_jammys> or make a bin directory in your home, and put the script there
[09:41] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, I agree with prince_jammys
[09:41] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, the shell opens in the home directory right
[09:41] <prince_jammys> you won't have to type the full path if you put in in $HOME/bin
[09:41] <prince_jammys> it will search in /home/arvind/bin for the name of the program, and run it if it's there
[09:42] <dave11> I wish there was a button to turn  no scrypt on and off without having to restart the browser
[09:42] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, the only thing I don't like is that it prepends ~/bin to the path instead of tacking it onto the end
[09:42] <ookal> hi
[09:43] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, so now no need to edit PATH or basrc???
[09:43] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, nope
[09:43] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, so now no need to edit PATH or basrc???
[09:43] <gokorn> hi
[09:43] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: your .bashrc will check if bin is in your home. no, you don't have to change .bashrc if you do it that way
[09:44] <unop__> arvind_khadri, modify PATH in ~/.bashrc if thats what you are asking
[09:44] <yao_ziyuan> what are online linux magazines for advanced users? linuxjournal?
[09:44] <unop__> arvind_khadri, and then source ~/.bashrc afterwards.  source ~/.bashrc
[09:44] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks now it isnt workin
[09:44] <unop__> arvind_khadri, echo $PATH
[09:45] <unop__> is the directory in which you placed the executable in $PATH ?
[09:45] <prince_jammys> actually, it's .profile that puts bin in your PATH
[09:45] <arvind_khadri> unop_how do i edit PATH variable...its in home directory
[09:45] <gokorn> when i open add/remove programs i get this error : databas locked - adept installer: another process is using the packaging system database probaly some other adept application  or apt-get or aptitude
[09:45] <gokorn> ?
[09:46] <unop__> arvind_khadri, open up ~/.bashrc .. make modifications, save and run.  source ~/.bashrc
[09:46] <arvind_khadri> gokorn, kill any instance of apt/synaptic/aptitude running
[09:46] <gokorn> its fresh from reboot no program running
[09:46] <gokorn> ?
[09:46] <unop__> arvind_khadri, if the executable is in ~ .. then a line like this should do.  export PATH=$PATH:~
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> unop_, the executable is in home/bin
[09:47] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: create a directory 'bin' in your home, put the script there and then type "source .profile"
[09:47] <unop__> arvind_khadri, then.  export PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[09:47] <unop__> arvind_khadri, err, sorry
[09:47] <prince_jammys> that's already in .profile in ubuntu, i believe
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> unop_, prince_jammys thing worked
[09:48] <arvind_khadri> unop_, prince_jammys thanks a lot
[09:48] <prince_jammys> if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then
[09:48] <prince_jammys>     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[09:48] <prince_jammys> fi
[09:48] <prince_jammys> that's in .profile (at least in mine)
[09:48] <arvind_khadri> gokorn, do ps -e | grep "apt" ,do you get a output
[09:48] <gokorn> notting
[09:49] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, the thing you said will be permamnent
[09:49] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: look in your .profile and see if the lines i pasted are there
[09:49] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: if they are, it's permanent
[09:49] <godkas> Ugh Gross yall didnt tell me itd install gnome :P
[09:50] <zerlneo> hello guys, im a new user to this OS, i just want to ask if is it possoble to create a normal account that has no password or is it possible to make autologin everytime my pc starts?
[09:50] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, yeah its there
[09:50] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: then you're set
[09:50] <laffinet> gokorn: still no luck ?
[09:50] <arvind_khadri> zerlneo, its not possible
[09:51] <arvind_khadri> gokorn, do ps -e | grep "dpkg" ,do you get a output
[09:51] <unop> zerlneo, run.  sudo gdmsetup   # there's an option in there somewhere to set a user to automatically login
[09:51] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, thanks
[09:51] <gokorn> still notting
[09:51] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | gokorn
[09:51] <ubotu> gokorn: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:52] <sachi> hi guys
[09:53] <sachi> i have several problem with ubuntu
[09:53] <cheesypieces> hi guys, my screen flashes black every so often, any ideas what could be causing this?
[09:53] <arvind_khadri> sachi, ask
[09:54] <gokorn> ok it works now. tnx
[09:54] <sachi> first is when i want to resize a window the pc blocks
[09:55] <sachi> and the other is that i cant hear any sound only if i put headphones i hear
[09:56] <arvind_khadri> sachi did you check master volume and check alsamixer
[09:57] <godkas> gnome sux
[09:57] <godkas> :(
[09:57] <sachi> yes
[09:57] <arvind_khadri> godkas, what happened
 zerlneo, run.  sudo gdmsetup   # there's an option in there somewhere to set a user to automatically login  <--- is this has a options also to limit the user not to install or access system files? coz im thinking to use this OS for my net cafe on august
[09:59] <pbne> what does suse' /etc/sysconfig/network/scripts correspond to in ubuntu?
[09:59] <Bacta> hi I'm trying to show my gf the new Ubuntu wallpaper, the one with the bird
[09:59] <Bacta> can someone link me to it?
[09:59] <ompaul> pbne, don't know that there is a one to one mapping - what functionality do you want
[09:59] <sachi> alsa is on an the volume also
[10:00] <arvind_khadri> sachi, which version of ubuntu
[10:00] <unop__> zerlneo, by default only users who exist in the admin group have access to sudo (needed to become root to install software, etc) so create users who are not members of the admin group
[10:00] <sachi> 7.10
[10:00] <sachi> oddalot_, j
[10:00] <oddalot_> huh?
[10:01] <arvind_khadri> sachi check the volume levels in the players
[10:01] <sachi> ther y r ok
[10:01] <mjbrooks> sachi, is your soundcard and AC'97?
[10:01] <arvind_khadri> Bacta, you may find it in www.gnome-look.org
[10:01] <pbne> ompaul: well im trying to set up some bluetooth stuff, and the guide im reading places a script in this dir, to set up a virtual network interface, bnep0
[10:02] <sachi> how can i chek it
[10:02] <mjbrooks> sachi, lspci | grep Audio
[10:03] <nathan_> can someone who's wifi works on boot nopaste me his /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:03] <gokorn> ok when i installed kubuntu there was no question to set up root password? where to set it up?
[10:04] <prince_jammys> !root
[10:04] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:04] <kakoonia> hey.. :) Can someone tell me whats GTK2? i got ubuntu 7.10, is it installed? i say i got gtk+2 engines installed on..
[10:04] <sachi>  ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[10:04] <zerlneo> thankx unop... bear w/ the noob....
[10:04] <ompaul> !bluetooth | pbne
[10:04] <ubotu> pbne: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:05] <kakoonia> !GTK2
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <arvind_khadri> !GTK2
[10:05] <arvind_khadri> !GTK
[10:05] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[10:05] <kakoonia> lol
[10:05] <prince_jammys> gokorn: just use sudo COMMAND. if you need a longer session as root, use sudo -i or sudo -s. once you're done, type "exit"
[10:05] <gokorn> ok
[10:05] <sachi> any help
[10:05] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia, you can find lots of info bout it in wikipedia
[10:05] <ompaul> gokorn, or CTRL D - which will exit a terminal or a shell once at the command line
[10:06] <mjbrooks> sachi, looking
[10:06] <rockysynergy> I added Windows XP to my laptop and now it is a dual boot machine. The only thing is I need to reset the time every time I log into either Windows or Ubuntu. Can  any of  you tell me where and how I can set the time once for all?
[10:06] <prince_jammys> gokorn: man sudo to see the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s.  they both give you a session as root
[10:06] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, edit menu.lst
[10:07] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:07] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri , Thanks, didnt find anything concretic there, the question came up because i tried to install Ardour (digital audio workstation) and i couldnt..
[10:08] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia whats the error you are getting??
[10:08] <sachi> thx
[10:09] <mjbrooks> sachi, you have PCM in the mixer turn on and up right?
[10:09] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri , im not getting an error, i tried to install it through the Add Programs, and it didnt let me mark V on it.
[10:09] <sachi> my connection broke
[10:09] <rockysynergy> rvind_khadri, which field? I only see a timeout field there. And I think it is for how long before the grub will boot the machine into the default OS.
[10:09] <mjbrooks> sachi, you have PCM in the mixer turn on and up right?
[10:10] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, you should see another entry related to time in it
[10:11] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, what do you want to do
[10:11] <jordi_> hola
[10:11] <sachi> hdi ati sb alsa mixer
[10:11] <jordi_> alguien me puede ayudar
[10:11] <prince_jammys> !es | jordi_
[10:11] <ubotu> jordi_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:11] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia maybe its not available for your architecture,why dont u try apt-get it??
[10:11] <kakoonia> im doing it right now..
[10:11] <kakoonia> :D
[10:12] <prince_jammys> he's talking about the actual time, not the menu timeout
[10:12] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri : just made me wonder if its good to try and install it when it didnt let me do it through the add/remove.
[10:12] <rockysynergy> arvind_khadri, Right now every time I log on I need to reset the system time. I want to set the system time.
[10:13] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, that you need to set in BIOS
[10:13] <sachi> is that ok
[10:13] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia hmm no harm anyways
[10:13] <thelonecabbage> I'm getting 1MB/s from my hard disk testing with hdparm
[10:13] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri : Thanks dude.
[10:14] <GIn> 1MB/s is slow :\
[10:14] <rockysynergy> arvind_khadri, thanks!
[10:14] <thelonecabbage> yeah
[10:14] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia, rockysynergy welcome
[10:14] <thelonecabbage> and setting it to use dma returns an error
[10:14] <thelonecabbage> root@JustinAlexander:~# hdparm -d1 /dev/sda
[10:14] <thelonecabbage> /dev/sda:
[10:14] <thelonecabbage>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[10:14] <thelonecabbage>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[10:14] <FloodBot1> thelonecabbage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:14] <unop__> rockysynergy, do you dual-boot with windows?
[10:15] <prince_jammys> rockysynergy: how are you resetting the time?
[10:15] <prince_jammys> are you using 'hwclock'?
[10:15] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, his prob got solved
[10:15] <godkas> @_@ gnome is trippin me out man... feels like im on a mac
[10:16] <unop__> arvind_khadri, i dont think it has, you asked him to change the time in the BIOS .. and that's not the end of the story, the next time windows or linux shuts-down, the time could be changed
[10:16] <sachi> any help
[10:16] <mjbrooks> sachi, is that a laptop?
[10:16] <sachi> yes
[10:16] <mjbrooks> sachi, Acer?
[10:16] <kakoonia> !jack
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <sachi> toshiba
[10:17] <thelonecabbage> has anyone here had experience setting hdparm with SATA drives?
[10:17] <arvind_khadri> unop__, after he sets his bios he needs to re-config the time in system,wouldnt that solve it
[10:17] <rockysynergy> unop__,Yes I dual boot with Windows.
[10:17] <mjbrooks> sachi, here's a guy with an Acer who fixed his.. it has the same soundcard  http://asprakash.blogspot.com/2007/10/sound-card-problem-in-acer-aspire-4520.html
[10:17] <unop__> arvind_khadri, well, it should but if he dual-boots with windows, then it's another problem
[10:17] <mjbrooks> sachi, I'm assuming this will be fixed with Hardy
[10:18] <sachi> ill give a try
[10:18] <sachi> thx a lot
[10:18] <arvind_khadri> unop__, hmm lets see
[10:18] <mjbrooks> sachi, its essentially an update to alsa
[10:18] <unop__> rockysynergy, see what irony says here - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82774.html
[10:18] <mjbrooks> sachi, gl
[10:18] <sachi> thx
[10:19] <unop__> arvind_khadri, linux sets the hwclock with UTC values, windows seems to use localtime .. you either have to get windows to use UTC or linux to not
[10:20] <mjbrooks> unop__, stupid windows :/
[10:20] <sachi> but i dont have nvidia graphic card i have ati
[10:20] <unop__> mjbrooks, indeed
[10:21] <mjbrooks> sachi, skip that nvidia part... its not needed
[10:21] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri : you got any idea whats JACK? cause i tried to run it And : " Ardour could not connect to JACK."
[10:22] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia JACK is some sound related software
[10:22] <sachi> ok
[10:22] <arvind_khadri> !JACK > kakoonia
[10:22] <mjbrooks> sachi, the graphics card isn't related to the sound card.. he just went overboard in his description of what he did
[10:22] <kakoonia> ok.. ill look for it.. Thx again.
[10:23] <sachi> thx
[10:26] <sachi> tell me how to download alsa-driver-1.0.15rc3.tar.bz2
[10:26] <zero__> hey how do i make it so when my laptop unplugs the screen goes a bit dimmer, conserving battery?
[10:27] <popey> zero__: look at gnome power manager - it has options for that
[10:27] <zero__> popey where is that?\
[10:27] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i make a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?
[10:27] <popey> zero__: in gnome System -> preferences _.power management
[10:27] <viviersf> Hi guys, is there any ncurses based network admin tools for ubuntu server ?
[10:28] <zero__> popey in there, there is NO option for screen dimming on battery power
[10:28] <zero__> just about killing the display and poweringoff the machine
[10:28] <mojo> How do I force my filesystem to re-check on the next boot?
[10:28] <popey> zero__: what version of ubuntu?
[10:28] <zero__> i just want my screen to automatically dim when i unplug
[10:28] <zero__> popey 710
[10:29] <aminos> linuxac
[10:29] <popey> zero__: same here, in the "On battery Power" tab, there is "dim display brightness by" option?
[10:29] <neil> Hey Guys, i changed my /etc/hostname yesterday
[10:29] <zero__> popey nope
[10:29] <neil> Now when i go to run sudo (since i just restarted)
[10:29] <neil> it says sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[10:29] <popey> zero__: is there an "on battery power" tab?
[10:30] <zero__> popey, yeah, in there is just put computer to sleep when inacitve fore and such
[10:30] <mjbrooks> neil, it was called ubuntu before??
[10:30] <popey> zero__: is it a dell?
[10:30] <zero__> popey, no its a toshiba
[10:30] <neil> mjbrooks:  no it was Neil-Desk
[10:30] <popey> zero__: could be that brightness isn't supported by linux on your laptop..
[10:31] <popey> zero__: ..could you add the brightness applet to the panel and see fi that works?
[10:31] <neil> mjbrooks:  any ideas?
[10:31] <hyperstream> guys im trying to install ubuntu 7.10 onto my lap top - it gets stuck at: Cat: /var/lib/acpi-support/system-version: no such file or directory, same directory as that for files: system-manufacturer / system-product-name / bios-version. then gets stuck at: saving VESA STATE
[10:31] <zero__> popey, it doesnt do anything, am i just screwed?
[10:32] <popey> zero__: does it have a red cross through the brightness icon?
[10:32] <mjbrooks> neil, you probably have to fix the name in your /etc/hosts file
[10:32] <zero__> popey, yeah it does
[10:32] <popey> zero__: then brightness isn't supported on your particular setup
[10:32] <zero__> damn, well, ok, thanks popey
[10:33] <popey> zero__: there may be a fix/workaround. i dont know
[10:33] <kelvin911> anyone knows the command to check if my partition is ext2 or ext3?
[10:33] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i make a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?
[10:33] <popey> zero__: or indeed it may be fixed in 8.04 - out in 10 days
[10:33] <mjbrooks> neil, it should have a line that says <IP_ADDRESS> NEWNAMEHERE
[10:33] <Alick> ..
[10:33] <DJones> !hostname | neil
[10:33] <ubotu> neil: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[10:33] <xoqa> java sites aren't working even after installing icedtea-java7-plugin
[10:33] <popey> kelvin911: the mount command will tell you
[10:33] <titan__> hi all, I am talking to you from my new ubuntu pc, goodbye XP.  I need to watch videos on youtube ect, what extention is the best Adobe Flash or Gnsah?
[10:34] <phrozen77> DJones, now i've deleted the dotdeb entries
[10:34] <nathan_> what's ath0:avahi ?
[10:34] <kelvin911> thx
[10:34] <hyperstream> guys whats a decent CD writing application to burn iso files ?
[10:34] <xoqa> i'm using firefox 3.0b5, it seems to be the default firefox that was installed.
[10:34] <mjbrooks> hyperstream, I like k3b
[10:34] <hyperstream> for gnome ?
[10:35] <viviersf> hyperstream: brasero for gnome
[10:35] <mjbrooks> hyperstream, but then... I'm using kubuntu ;)
[10:35] <phrozen77> DJones, http://pastebin.ca/985778
[10:35] <hyperstream> :P
[10:35] <hyperstream> thanks
[10:35] <kelvin911> how come when i install deli linux it doesnt have a choice of formating it as ext3?
[10:35] <hyperstream> guys im trying to install ubuntu 7.10 onto my lap top - it gets stuck at: Cat: /var/lib/acpi-support/system-version: no such file or directory, same directory as that for files: system-manufacturer / system-product-name / bios-version. then gets stuck at: saving VESA STATE
[10:35] <popey> kelvin911: it's the default on ubuntu
[10:36] <DJones> phrozen77: did you rerun sudo apt-get update after removing the dotdeb repo?
[10:36] <nathan_> can I remove/delete avahi?
[10:36] <kelvin911> i mean in deli linux
[10:36] <phrozen77> DJones, more than once
[10:37] <titan__>  hi all, I am talking to you from my new ubuntu pc, goodbye XP.  I need to watch videos on youtube ect, what extention is the best Adobe Flash or Gnsah? PM me please so i can bother you with more questions if you dont mind
[10:37] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i make a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?
[10:37] <arvind_khadri> titan__, the missing plugins will be asked for,flash player is the one all prefer
[10:38] <DJones> phrozen77: I'm at a loss, it looks like a conflict because of the dotdeb repo, but I don't know how to fix it, I'd suggest asking again in the channel with last pastebin to see if anybody else can help you
[10:38] <titan__> thanks
[10:38] <kelvin911> how to mount so that user can write to the hda1?
[10:39] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911,  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:39] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, but first mkdir hda1 in media
[10:39] <kelvin911> no
[10:39] <kelvin911> i am in other linux
[10:39] <xoqa> is there any work being done to get the processing language in a repository?
[10:39] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i make a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?
[10:39] <kelvin911> i got it mount, but normal user cant write there
[10:40] <kelvin911> i have to login as root and copy the file there
[10:40] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, set the value of rw in fstab
[10:40] <phrozen77> anyone knows why i have a dependency to a dotdeb package when the dotdeb repo has been removed and apt-get update has been ran? http://pastebin.ca/985778
[10:40] <dra> hello
[10:40] <kelvin911> is this right ? /dev/hda1/   /mnt/dos   vfat   rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002   0   0
[10:40] <Gatestone_> Which was the tools that show disk as pie chart?
[10:40] <dra> i want to keep track of all chats
[10:40] <kelvin911> i have this in fstab
[10:41] <dra> any one know how to keep track all chats in log
[10:41] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, umask should be 007
[10:41] <kelvin911> but only root can write file there
[10:41] <kelvin911> ok
[10:41] <kelvin911> whats the different?
[10:41] <kelvin911> umask=002 umask=007 ???
[10:41] <dra> i installed here Untagle
[10:41] <gokorn> what is good program for wifi?
[10:42] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, read man umask
[10:42] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the umask is fine, but you need to remove the trailing / from /dev/hda1
[10:42] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: 002 allows other users to read and execute files. 007 doesn't allow other users to do anything
[10:42] <kelvin911> ??
[10:42] <kelvin911> so 002 or 007?
[10:42] <gokorn> what is good program for wifi?
[10:42] <kelvin911> and what is trailing?
[10:42] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: 002 is ok, depending on your needs
[10:42] <Gatestone_> ok, Accessories / Disk Usage Analyzer
[10:43] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, /dev/hda1   /mnt/dos   vfat   rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002   0   0
[10:43] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: make /dev/hda1/ into /dev/hda  (remove the last slash)
[10:43] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, how about your sources.list
[10:43] <titan__> can someone pm me please to help me set up things in ubuntu
[10:43] <kelvin911> i change it already
[10:43] <kelvin911> jsut typo i type in here
[10:43] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: /dev/hda1, sorry
[10:43] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, not hda~!!
[10:43] <mjbrooks> lol
[10:44] <kelvin911> ??
[10:44] <DistroJockey> !register | titan__
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[10:44] <prince_jammys> then i don't know. the fstab line looks fine
[10:44] <kelvin911> not hda?
[10:44] <prince_jammys>  /dev/hda1
[10:44] <titan__> ok will do
[10:44] <kelvin911> maybe because it is deli linux
[10:44] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the line should be /dev/hda1/   /mnt/dos   vfat   rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002   0   0
[10:44] <prince_jammys> hehe
[10:44] <mjbrooks> ugh
[10:44] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the line should be /dev/hda1   /mnt/dos   vfat   rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002   0   0
[10:45] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, you jinxed me
[10:45] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: let me show you the line i have for my vfat partition
[10:45] <kelvin911> yes it is /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos vfat rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 0 0
[10:45] <kelvin911> on my computer i dont have fat so i dont know how to set it to other computer
[10:46] <prince_jammys>  /dev/sda3   /mnt/share vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077  0   0
[10:46] <prince_jammys> that's my line
[10:46] <kelvin911> my computer has UUID=6AA0A5CBA0A59DD7 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[10:46] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, ive removed the dotdeb repo from it and apt-get update'd afterwards more than once
[10:46] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: your umask is fine, by the way
[10:46] <kelvin911> umask=077?
[10:46] <prince_jammys> read above
[10:46] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, once run sudo apt-get install -f once
[10:47] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: YOUR umask is fine
[10:47] <titan__> .
[10:47] <kelvin911> but why i cant copy file to that /mnt/dos ??
[10:47] <kelvin911> i can only copy file there when i am root
[10:47] <kelvin911> but not normal user
[10:47] <mojo> Hi.  Sry if I missed an answer earlier, I had to run a.f.k.  My /home hdd had a problem, and i need to fsck it.  How do I make it do fsck at next boot since i can't umount it (busy) to do it ??? Thanks!
[10:48] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, doesnt help it seems
[10:48] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: i have no idea. maybe try removing the "rw,user" options
[10:48] <arvind_khadri> !aptfix > phrozen77
[10:48] <mjbrooks> one of mine looks like UUID=3908DB3C16FB1510 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=077,gid=46 0       1
[10:49] <phrozen77> !aptfix
[10:49] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:49] <kelvin911> whats different between 077, 007 ?
[10:49] <kelvin911> i didnt change the setting since installation
[10:49] <mludi> hi, is there a mechanism for /etc/skel that is able to replace variables defined in the skel template files. e.g. to set the username inside a skel template file to the user whos home directory is being created?
[10:49] <mjbrooks> !umask
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <finn> owner/group/all
[10:49] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: 077 rwx------ 007 is rwxrwx---  002 is rwxrwxr-x
[10:49] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, doesnt help either
[10:50] <gluer> Q: what app can i use that would be a replacement for daemon tools for ubuntu?
[10:50] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the umask is the reverse of the permissions you want it to have
[10:50] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, it gets subtracted
[10:50] <kelvin911> what if i want rwxrwxrwx ??
[10:50] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: 000
[10:50] <kelvin911> ok
[10:50] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, umask=000
[10:50] <guyvdb_> I have always used a laptop with nvidia chipset. I am looking to buy a new laptop that uses ATI. I know that ATI drivers have improved greatly. Any advice on buying a laptop with ATI to run Ubuntu.
[10:50] <kelvin911> thats what i want
[10:51] <finn> 777
[10:51] <aLone> hy, i need bugs, if u have, pm me, thx friend
[10:51] <studiotrinity> hi gang, having a problem kicking up bristol synth and brighton gui in gutsy. Im getting /dev/midi errors cant really decipher them, any able to help out with some sagely wisdom?
[10:51] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: are you remounting everytime you make these changes?
[10:52] <mjbrooks> aLone, you need bugs? what?
[10:52] <kelvin911> what do u mean prince?
[10:52] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, what do you want to do exactk\ly
[10:52] <mojo> studiotrinity: just in case no-one can help u here, there is an #ubuntu-studio (or is it #ubuntustudio) chan where you might find help
[10:52] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: remount the partition after you change fstab
[10:52] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, he means you need to remount the partition for the changes to take effect
[10:52] <kelvin911> i jsut reboot
[10:52] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, install libapache2-mod-php5 for example
[10:53] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: well, that'll do it, but shouldn't be necessary
[10:53] <kelvin911> can reboot take effect?
[10:53] <DistroJockey> gluer: to read an .iso?
[10:53] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, this isn't windows.. no need to reboot
[10:53] <kelvin911> too much work
[10:53] <kelvin911> i just reboot it
[10:53] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, then why did ypu remove the repo it belongs to
[10:53]  * mjbrooks slaps his forehead
[10:53] <phrozen77> ?
[10:53] <kelvin911> i get use to dos
[10:53] <kelvin911> reboot and reboot
[10:53] <hyperstream> guys im trying to install ubuntu 7.10 onto my lap top - it gets stuck at: Cat: /var/lib/acpi-support/system-version: no such file or directory, same directory as that for files: system-manufacturer / system-product-name / bios-version. then gets stuck at: saving VESA STATE
[10:53] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: it's faster to just remount. you don't have to wait
[10:53] <arvind_khadri> !install
[10:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:54] <kelvin911> dont know the command
[10:54] <studiotrinity> mojo>>thanks, i tried there earlier and received no reply, so maby its not appropraite posting again so soon, thought id give the more active regular ubuntu irc a go, thanks tho
[10:54] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: there might be a faster way, but you can just: sudo umount /media/blah && sudo mount /media/blah
[10:54] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, use a different cd,did you check the cd for errors
[10:54] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, sudo umount /mnt/dos && sudo mount /mnt/dos
[10:54] <kelvin911> for some reason sudo doesnt work in deli linux
[10:54] <hyperstream> this is the 3rd cd
[10:54] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, then why did you remove the repo it belongs to
[10:55] <hyperstream> yes no issues with the cd's
[10:55] <kelvin911> i am not working on ubuntu
[10:55] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: why are you in this channel?
[10:55] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, the dotdeb repos?
[10:55] <kelvin911> because linux channel people are too cocky dont wanna help put noobs like me
[10:55] <hyperstream> From the installer's boot prompt, enter
[10:55] <hyperstream> linux acpi=off
[10:55] <kelvin911> *out
[10:55] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  how do i do that?
[10:55] <zhangdan> what's this?
[10:55] <jayde_drag0n> hey if anyone can help it would be appreciated. I just followed the howto to install mplayer and the mplayerplug-in.. got it all configured.. but when i goto apple.com to watch some trailers (which was why i installed it) i get audio and no video. and none of the forum posts i am pulling up on that issue are particularly helpful.. can someone assist and tell me what step i may have forgotten?
[10:55] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, yes
[10:55] <DJones> arvind_khadri: That was my suggestion to phrozen77 to see whether it was conflicting with a version in the normal repo's
[10:55] <hyperstream> hit f6 ? im alreading putting in irqpoll to solve another issue
[10:56] <phrozen77> also libapache isnt in dotdeb if i recall right
[10:56] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: then do the umount and mount command that mjbrooks posted as root (without sudo)
[10:56] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, well, this is an ubuntu channel, so we have to assume you are using ubuntu
[10:56] <zhangdan> and who are you?
[10:56] <kelvin911> i ask in #linux guys keep telling me to google
[10:56] <kelvin911> i google already but its too technical
[10:56] <zhangdan> ...
[10:56] <zhangdan> ="=
[10:56] <arvind_khadri> Djones i think the package is in that repo or he may have to enable other repos
[10:56] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, su -c umount /mnt/dos && mount /mnt/dos
[10:56] <raymond> hi all
[10:57] <YeTr2> kelvin911: man fstab
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, when you boot from cd you should get an option to check cd for errors
[10:57] <ComputerHermit> hi
[10:57] <kelvin911> whats that && do?
[10:57] <ComputerHermit> ;-)
[10:57] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, it buys a round of drinks
[10:57] <kelvin911> && = and?
[10:57] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: just runs the second command only if the first succeeds
[10:57] <adam___> hi
[10:57] <mosno> mjbrooks, rofl
[10:57] <mmm4m5m> question: I have 2*256 RAM. I am using windows virtual machine (VirtualBox) with 320 RAM. Always I have to take extra care to ensure there is enough memory other way VirtualBox "abort" the virtual machine. If it show "out of memory" or use swap partitions it is better. Does anyone understand the problem? How can I prevent "aborting" my VM? I did read something about kernel parameters but I did not understand it.
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, enable the universe and multiverse
[10:57] <adam___> Just a quick Q
[10:57] <raymond> im trying to get my video working can anybody help me with that ? trying to set my resolution to 1680x1050@60
[10:57] <zhangdan> this is first time i use ubuntu
[10:57] <mjbrooks> mosno, heh
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, pastebin your sources.list
[10:58] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  all 3 discs are fine, i have burnt 3 discs
[10:58] <mmm4m5m> sorry: I have 3*256 ram (anyway, it is only details)
[10:58] <hyperstream> From the installer's boot prompt, enter
[10:58] <hyperstream> linux acpi=off
[10:58] <hyperstream> im wanting to know how to add this successfully
[10:58] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, try googling
[10:58] <kelvin911> the umask=000 works so fine !! thanks guys
[10:58] <zhangdan> i can't input chinese
[10:58] <adam___> I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[10:59] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is the function of the Alt+F6 shortcut?
[10:59] <kelvin911> i asks the #linux channel and no one give me this simple solution
[10:59] <kelvin911> keep telling me man this man that
[10:59] <DJones> arvind_khadri: The original problem was that libc6 was being rejected, but thats supposed to be in installable from the the dapper repo's
[10:59] <kelvin911> google this google that
[10:59] <mjbrooks> hyperstream, to turn off acpi at the cd boot you choose add boot options and type in noacpi
[10:59] <adam___> I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> DJones, purge build-essential
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> DJones, that can be done from the cd
[11:00] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: change your fstab to /dev/hda1 and remove the user,rw option and then remount
[11:00] <adam___> I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, purge your build-essential
[11:00] <DJones> arvind_khadri: its not for me, it was phrozen77's original error message
[11:00] <kelvin911> damn i got all kinda error tring to copy files...
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> DJones, :) i meant it for him only...
[11:00] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, perhaps it's because you're asking questions that are so basic they've been asked many many times before
[11:01] <raymond> i ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg since i messed up my xorf.conf while trying to get it to work
[11:01] <adam___> Help plz, I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[11:01] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: paste the fstab line here again
[11:01] <adam___> Help plz, I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[11:01] <Gatestone_> Why lsb_release says "no lsb modules"?
[11:02] <jayde_drag0n> does anyone have time to help another person tonight?
[11:02] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, kelvin911> yes it is /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos vfat rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 0 0
[11:02] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, how ? what?
[11:02] <phrozen77> :)
[11:02] <adam___> Help plz, I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[11:03] <kelvin911> how to clean trash can?
[11:03] <ComputerHermit> adam___ http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=39356160
[11:03] <kelvin911> where the files are move to when delete?
[11:03] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, sudo dpkg --purge build-essential
[11:03] <mjbrooks> !patience > adam___
[11:03] <kelvin911> dont have trash can icon in desktop in deli linux
[11:03] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, and then reinstall?
[11:03] <KrimZon> kelvin911: is it running gnome?
[11:03] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, purge does it :)
[11:03] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: this is the UBUNTU channel
[11:04] <kelvin911> i cant get help on other channel
[11:04] <adam___> computerhermit: They say use 98 but I tried and it didnt work, I just wondered if the 64bit drivers were needed
[11:04] <kelvin911> hope there are more expert linux user here can help put
[11:04] <kelvin911> out
[11:04] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, well, usually the trash can is under the counter in a deli
[11:04] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri,  dpkg --purge build-essential
[11:04] <phrozen77> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove build-essential which isn't installed.
[11:04] <DistroJockey> mjbrooks: lol
[11:04] <kelvin911> counter?
[11:04] <mjbrooks> BWAHAHAHA
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, its to be done with sudo
[11:04] <phrozen77> i am root
[11:04] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: one thing is to ask about something universal like /etc/fstab. don't ask about desktop environments of other OS's/distros
[11:04] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, is deli gnome based?
[11:05] <kelvin911> no not gnome
[11:05] <kelvin911> something icevm?
[11:05] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, if it still says not installed then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:06] <master_> linux
[11:06] <ComputerHermit> adam___ usually I just do a search in the forums and I find a solution I just done a search on your chip set
[11:06] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, installing now
[11:06] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the specifics of bologna linux or whatever sliced meat it is you have there is off topic here
[11:06] <adam___> I dont know how to IRC, so if your going to help me, can you somehow make a window popup
[11:06] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, this would set things right i guess,after this install what you wanted to
[11:06]  * jayde_drag0n is a GIRL who needs assistance and would very much like to be next in the queue for help :-)
[11:06] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: just ask your question
[11:06] <prince_jammys> oh wait, a GIRL!
[11:06] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, we'll see :)
[11:06] <mjbrooks> !ask > jayde_drag0n
[11:06] <adam___> computerhermit, I and unsure, I have used the forums in the past, this is my last resort
[11:07] <jayde_drag0n> lol i already did... i was trying to be patient
[11:07] <ay^> oh
[11:07] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, they're ALL girls
[11:07] <ay^> dont be
[11:07] <ay^> ;)
[11:07] <hyperstream> jayde_drag0n: mail or female i dont think it matters, ask what you have to ask :)
[11:07] <jayde_drag0n>  I just followed the howto to install mplayer and the mplayerplug-in.. got it all configured.. but when i goto apple.com to watch some trailers (which was why i installed it) i get audio and no video. and none of the forum posts i am pulling up on that issue are particularly helpful.. can someone assist and tell me what step i may have forgotten?
[11:07] <ComputerHermit> adam___ you just have to try and read and look dude this is what I do
[11:07] <hyperstream> male* how to tell your a geek : mail
[11:07] <ay^> hyperstream: :D
[11:07] <adam___> but all I want to know, do I need thhe 64bit drivers?
[11:07] <jayde_drag0n> hyperstream: yes but i notice i get ignored for hours until i mention i'm a girl.. and i don't think a plague of lolcats will help me
[11:08] <adam___> I have spent 3 weeks loooking
[11:08] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: well most people get ignored in here, this is a busy chan and you need to be persistent to get help
[11:08] <mjbrooks> jayde_drag0n, yeah, apple.com is a pain, Stevey sure likes his quicktime junk
[11:08] <ay^> ask several times, but not spam
[11:08] <ay^> I'ts a thin line
[11:08] <ComputerHermit> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=39356160  adam___ I understand try googleing your chip set as well
[11:09] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: still the same problem. its still trying to cat the acpi-support stuff
[11:09] <jayde_drag0n> ay^: i know.. but i also noticed that if i say too much.. then people get on my case about being patient.. so i'm trying to make everyone jhappy.. be nice.. and not be annoying :-D
[11:09] <ComputerHermit> just chill and maybe someone els with more knolage then me will help you
[11:09] <adam___> computerhermit, I wouldnt have come here if I had found my answer
[11:09] <adam___> thanks
[11:09] <ComputerHermit> k
[11:09] <kelvin911> how to delete all *.db file?
[11:09] <prince_jammys> jayde_drag0n: what are they, flash videos?
[11:09] <sachi> anyone can guide me how to install dock aplication
[11:09] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: Yep I know, as I said, it's a thin line between being persistent and nagging
[11:09] <cwillu> jayde_drag0n, I just mention my real name, and let people jump to the wrong conclusion :p
[11:09] <mjbrooks> jayde_drag0n, once ever other or third screen is a good pace
[11:09] <kelvin911> how to delete all thumb.db file in sub dir?
[11:09] <kelvin911> or all dir?
[11:10] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream whats the exact problem??
[11:10] <cwillu> jayde_drag0n, you might find that the forums or the mailing lists cover those sorts of situations better
[11:10] <jayde_drag0n> prince_jammys:  its the (i'm assuming) flash on apple.com for their trailers
[11:10] <mosno> kelvin911, find /some/dir -type f -iname thumbs.db -exec rm {} \;
[11:10] <gooody> how do i upgrade pidgin version in ubuntu gutsy?
[11:10] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: find . -name '*.db' -exec echo {} \;  (if you like what you see, then change the "echo" to "rm"
[11:10] <hyperstream> in the boot prompt options linux acpi=off is writen just as that or within '' - the website tells me to att linux acpi=off, i also need to add in irqpoll as well
[11:11] <daire> unbuntu went black and asked and gave me the log in prompt when i was using firefox, deluge, pidgin and irssi. when i logged back in and tried to open firefox it's telling me it's already open and i must close it first or restart my system
[11:11] <kelvin911> what if i want to del all *.db i can find in my all hard disks and all usb disks?
[11:11] <hyperstream> Boot Options: t=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --  is what i see when i hit f6 at the boot of the cd(with start or install  / oem install / memory test etc)
[11:11] <daire> i was half way through a download. son of a x
[11:12] <hyperstream> so would it become: t=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash -- 'linux acpi=off' irqpoll ?
[11:12] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: find / -name '*.db' -exec rm {} \;
[11:12] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: careful
[11:12] <jayde_drag0n> soo no one knows why its doing that?
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, do you get some options to edit the entries??
[11:12] <mjbrooks> hyperstream, t=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash -- noacpi irqpoll
[11:13] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: nopes, but I guess it's what steve wants it to be :)
[11:13] <daire> it happened again
[11:13] <hyperstream> mjbrooks: tried that still cats the acpi support
[11:13] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: I mean in windows you'd need quicktime for it
[11:13] <daire> i pressed the minimize button on firefox and my screen went black and i got the login prompt
[11:13] <ay^> quicktime alternative sometimes doesnt cover it
[11:13] <kelvin911> how about find / -name 'thumbs.db' -exec rm {} \; ????
[11:13] <kelvin911> i just wanna remove those stupid thumbs.db file from windows
[11:13] <jayde_drag0n> ay^: does mplayer have a channel? and :-P if i wanted a crappy OS i would be using windows
[11:13] <ay^> kelvin911: but that wouldn't delete all *.db
[11:13] <sachi> anyone can guide me how to install dock aplication
[11:13] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: that should delete every file name 'thumbs.db' that your user has the right to delete
[11:13] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: no
[11:14] <bahr> How do I change my refresh rate to 60Hz for my monitor? I can only choose 50Hz in the "Screen Resolution", and in Windows, I know, it can run 60Hz
[11:14] <mmm4m5m> Help: System monitor show 0 bytes swap memory used. Is this correct?
[11:14] <hyperstream> i get option F6 for Other options, which then lets me edit the boot prompt thingo
[11:14] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: I have no idea, but probably does, tho i think some google-fu would do the trick since I bet you aint the only one watching trailers over there
[11:14] <Revan76> hello
[11:14] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream why dont you order the cd's or ask a LUG near to you
[11:15] <jayde_drag0n> allright well thanks everyone for at least responding :-)
[11:15] <kelvin911> someone should write a script to clean up the mess from windows
[11:15] <mjbrooks> jayde_drag0n, those commercials are cute but aren't worth the aggravation.
[11:15] <Revan76> can someone connect to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>plz? we need one more ppl to register
[11:15] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: I didn't mean that you should switch to windows, just noticed that it only worked with the specific app provided by steve
[11:15] <mmm4m5m> Help: System monitor show 0 bytes swap memory used. Is this correct?
[11:15] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: what would that change?
[11:16] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: yep, all good :)
[11:16] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream i feel it would help you install :s
[11:16] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, that means you're good to go
[11:16] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  ive just used the cd to install this box right here --- burn 2 more thinking maybe it was the disc, which its not
[11:16] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: whats so different from the one you download off ubuntu's site?
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream they never worked for me...but the one they sent always worked
[11:17] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: I have only 3*256 ram, I am running virtual machine. Before I start it I have to shutdown firefox, gedit,etc,etc. If swap is not used it is very bad for me
[11:17] <hyperstream> you must have a messed up writer then :)
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, the image should be a good one...and from net always use the alternate one
[11:17] <hyperstream> these disc are fine
[11:17] <hyperstream> noacpi doesnt stop it
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, hmm yeah might be...try the ubuntu forums
[11:17] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: swap will get used when you run out of RAM
[11:18] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, your system starts using sway when it runs out of normal memory... gnereally this is bad because swap is many times slower than normal memory
[11:18] <hyperstream> nolapic might work tho
[11:18] <hyperstream> :)
[11:18] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: as long as swap is enabled ofcourse
[11:18] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: I never run out of memory, instead my ubuntu hang up
[11:18] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: ... or virtual machine hang up
[11:19] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, how much memory are you telling the virtual machine to take?
[11:19] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: swap is acceptable because at least I need firefox + virtualbox + pidgin at the same time
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, did it work??
[11:20] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: 320 ram for virtual machine, so VirtualBox take 360 ram.
[11:20] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, build-essential has been installed but installing libapache2-mod-php5 still doesnt work
[11:20] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, try setting it to 256 for the VM
[11:21] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: right now it is 570 MB used (of 755 MB total). If I start, firefox it will takes 150 MB more.
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, whats the error now
[11:21] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: sure, I will reduce virtual machine memory... but do you think my settings are wrong? Can I force linux to use more swap (not for virtual machine but for everything else)
[11:21] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, still the same, unmet dependencies
[11:21] <phrozen77> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:22] <phrozen77>   libapache2-mod-php5: Depends: php5-common (= 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.10) but 5.2.5-0.dotdeb.2 is to be installed
[11:22] <phrozen77> E: Broken packages
[11:22] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: or do you think it can't find swap partition (I do not know which log file to check)
[11:22] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, if you don't have enough memory for the primary OS the whole house of cards falls
[11:22] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, install php5-common
[11:22] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, becuse then both the primary OS _AND_ the VM OS suffer
[11:22] <phrozen77> root@www:~# apt-get install php5-common
[11:22] <phrozen77> Reading package lists... Done
[11:22] <phrozen77> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:22] <phrozen77> php5-common is already the newest version.
[11:22] <phrozen77> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:22] <FloodBot1> phrozen77: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <arvind_khadri> phrozen jus a min
[11:23] <godkas_> so im trying to get kubuntu because i cant stand gnome
[11:23] <godkas_> -.-
[11:23] <tanner> anyone know how to decompress sgn?
[11:23] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: if you can pastebin the contents of   /etc/fstab   we can see if swap exists
[11:23] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, and part of what gets swapped by the OS is the VM itself  and bad things happen from there
[11:24] <arvind_khadri> phrozen install php5-dev
[11:24] <sachi> anyone can help me pls to install docks
[11:24] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: ok, so you think everything is normal. I did worry what if my swap partition is not visible/available for linux. Will paste fstab, as I see it is ok.
[11:24] <phrozen77> php5-dev is already the newest version.
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, hmm very weird
[11:25] <phrozen77> indeed
[11:25] <sachi> anyone can help me pls to install docks
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, can i have a look at sources.list
[11:25] <sachi> no help today
[11:25] <phrozen77> sure. 1sec
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> sachi what do you want
[11:25] <DistroJockey> !awn | sachi
[11:25] <ubotu> sachi: awn is <Reply> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and in Universe in Hardy
[11:26] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63265/
[11:26] <sachi> thx
[11:26] <DistroJockey> np
[11:26] <mmm4m5m> I even do not know, is it possible linux to run without swap
[11:26] <nathan_> how do I disable avahi once and for all ?
[11:26] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, http://pastebin.ca/985827
[11:27] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: anythings possible, but not always a good idea ;)
[11:27] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey: that is why, if I did wrong installation (few months back) I want to fix it
[11:27] <sachi> is there a command to write in terminal and to install dock
[11:27] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, hmm if you apt-cache the package do you get the package
[11:28] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, you can see how much swap you have by doing df -h /dev/sda8
[11:28] <the-killer> who can help me to recover grub ??
[11:28] <the-killer> !grub
[11:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:28] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: looks fine, I assume your swap partition is atleast as big as your amount of RAM, plus a little more? Not that that matters as you don't seem to be hitting the swap
[11:29] <arvind_khadri> DistroJockey, it should be twice
[11:29] <DistroJockey> arvind_khadri: why?
[11:29] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, apt-cache what? search?
[11:29] <d31`home> Hey guys, i'm wondering which FS is better for storing files that vary from 300mb to 8gb in size, most of the files are being read off t he drive, not written to the drive, any recommendations?
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, yeah
[11:30] <Mba7eth> anyone know if the Packege "empty-expect" is availabe in repository ?
[11:30] <brett> ext3 is fine for that as long as you plan on keeping it within linux
[11:30] <phrozen77> root@www:~# apt-cache search libapache2-mod-php5
[11:30] <phrozen77> libapache2-mod-php5 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)
[11:30] <phrozen77> php5-cgi - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> DistroJockey, as it gives better performance
[11:30] <d31`home> brett, yeah i do
[11:30] <ikonia> d31`home: you'll be fine with ext
[11:30] <brett> can always install the drivers on windows if necessary
[11:30] <DistroJockey> arvind_khadri: and why is that?
[11:30] <brett> but, those are ugly, i dislike them :|
[11:30] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: as I remember, swap must be 1GB. Please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63268/
[11:30] <d31`home> thanks guys
[11:31] <ikonia> mmm4m5m: swap does not have to be 1 GB
[11:31] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, swap can be 2bytes if you want
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> DistroJockey, well everyone says that,never went to dig the fact,but swap should be twice the ram
[11:31] <mmm4m5m> ikonia: I have enough HDD space.. that is ok, as long linux use it :)
[11:31] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, wouldn't makes much sense of course
[11:31] <ikonia> mmm4m5m: you can let swap be what ever size you feel appropriate for your machine
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, try installing something else...does it get installed
[11:32] <brett> yeah it depends, if you have a super heavy ram machine (anything even 2GB+) you rarely touch the swap unless doing something *heavy*
[11:32] <sachi> ive tried some commands but its says Couldn't find package awn-core-applets
[11:32] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, you said you have 3x256 in that?
[11:32] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63269/ is the error im having - care to have a peek?
[11:32] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, cowsay gets installed just fine
[11:32] <phrozen77> -_-
[11:32] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks, DistroJockey: yes, 3*256. So summary: details in paste bin look ok, right? No need to worry? Maybe have to search more in virtual box forums
[11:33] <brett> sachi, grab the .deb for awn from getdeb.net
[11:33] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, dont let the system configure it
[11:33] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: looks fine to me
[11:33] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, well you only gave yourself 375MB of swap it seems
[11:33] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  i have: noacpi acpi=off apm=on irqpoll
[11:34] <mmm4m5m> ok, thank you very much.
[11:34] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  as my extra boot options
[11:34] <DistroJockey> arvind_khadri: the main thing is to have room in swap for all the RAM contents for hibernation
[11:34] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: even 375 swap... it is used 1% only. So that is ok (meaning I do not need bigger)
[11:34] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: how do i stop the system from configuring it ?
[11:34] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, hmm ... it works for me
[11:34] <brett> you actually hibernate your system ever distro? even on my laptop I rarely find a use for that
[11:34] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, what works for you?
[11:34] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, that's what it is current;y using... do you have your VM running and firefox?
[11:35] <Mba7eth> anyone know if the Packege "empty-expect" is availabe in repository ?
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, jus switch off all your network devices
[11:35] <phrozen77> installing libapache2-mod-php5?
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, the package you mentioned
[11:35] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: yes, but only firefox and virtual machine. And problem is bigger when I run first firefox and then virtual machine
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, its  php5-apache2-mod-bt
[11:36] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: as in with the keyboard shortcut or in bios ?
[11:36] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, perhaps you need a lighter weight distro, like xubuntu
[11:36] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: plus if I run few more things after some time suddently virtual machine enter aborted state which is bad. I am always afraid to run something more togehter with virtual machine
[11:36] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, libapache2-mod-php5 should be installed
[11:36] <phrozen77> but whatever
[11:36] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, physically switch off all the network devices
[11:36] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, what VM is it?
[11:37] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: virtual machine. I will add more RAM soon (it is P4 laptop)
[11:37] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, what VM program? VMWare?
[11:37] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: it is virtual box, linux inside
[11:37] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, ah
[11:37] <mmm4m5m> * windows inside
[11:37] <mmm4m5m> sorry
[11:37] <brett> windows xp?
[11:38] <mmm4m5m> my old windows xp until I move more stuff under ubuntu
[11:38] <brett> how much ram do you have dedicated to the vm?
[11:38] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, your old XP... you mean from the raw disk?
[11:38] <brett> xp only needs about 128megs to function fine
[11:38] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: maybe ubuntu make it to hang up... because they do not like windows ;)
[11:38] <mjbrooks> brett, we covered that
[11:38] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: yes, from raw disk
[11:38] <brett> oh, sorry, came in late :|
[11:39] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  it is all- already off
[11:39] <ricanelite_> there is something going on the top panel i had a section where if I was running Xchar or Skype or Pidgin Instant Messenger a icon will sit next to my clock
[11:39] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, raw disk access is buggy in VirtualBox
[11:39] <ricanelite_> It is not there now
[11:39] <mmm4m5m> brett: I will reduce winxp ram... just wanted to ensure ubuntu is running properly
[11:39] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: the fn + wireless key turns the light off- its in the off state with ubuntu is booting
[11:39] <alvaro> hola
[11:39] <Ziroda1> ricanelite: click on the icon and see what it does...
[11:39] <unop> ricanelite, try adding a new "notification area" applet in
[11:39] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: is there any command line stuff i can use to force network config off ?
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, hmm then select the option to configure it later
[11:40] <mmm4m5m> Ok, issue closed. No problems. Thank you mjbrooks. Eventually I will search more in vitrual box forums
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, are you installing ubuntu or already installed??
[11:40] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, when you say move more stuff do you mean data, or are there programs you feel you have to run?
[11:40] <unop> hyperstream, pull the network interface down.
[11:40] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: installing
[11:40] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: both, data and programs. First was firefox. Recently installed gnucash in ubuntu. and so on
[11:41] <hyperstream> unop:  what do you mean? how do i do this
[11:41] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, ipdown
[11:41] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, I'd install a fresh copy of XP in a virtual drive and install the programs you need there and just access the windows partition as a drive for the data
[11:41] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: lol how do i do that during install ?
[11:41] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  its trying to boot into the live cd
[11:41] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, you'll find windows runs better that way
[11:41] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, in the terminal
[11:42] <ricanelite_> yeah i have the notification area applet up there now but if click on the icon nothing happens I cannot bring it u
[11:42]  * jolson
[11:42] <vinboy> is it possible to tell beagle NOT to index any contents? i only want it to index the filenames
[11:42] <brett> I agree with mjbrooks 100% with that.
[11:42] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: I dream for that. Just not possible to do it immediately
[11:42] <brett> when installed to a vm windows runs excellent :)
[11:42] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, hey jus a min
[11:42] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: in the boot options ?? there is no terminal its just pick an option to install and it goes on its own
[11:42] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  no worries mate
[11:42] <unop> hyperstream, are you booted into a live CD atm?
[11:42] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, it's like the difference between driving a yugo and a porche... not that XP is anyhthing like a porche
[11:43] <g[r]eek> Hi guys why when I boot my Ubuntu (desktop gutsy) it goes into "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Buil-in shell (ash)" with the prompt "(initramfs)" ??? This happens after I power down the box by pressing the power button
[11:43] <mmm4m5m> :))))
[11:43] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, so you use a alternate cd and the command is ifdown
[11:43] <hyperstream> unop: no it goes get that far
[11:43] <jolson> Hi! My clock never switched to daylight savings time. Is that a common problem. How can I fix it?
[11:43] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: ill give it a shot i guess
[11:44] <unop> hyperstream, well, what i would suggest if you boot up with the live CD (dont start the install) and chroot into the system to reinstall the acpi packages
[11:44] <unop> hyperstream, ifdown from a CD isnt going to do much .. the interface will come back up again the next time you start up
[11:44] <pajamian> jolson: is your system clock set to local time or to GMT?
[11:44] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, he is doing a fresh install i guess
[11:44] <hyperstream> unop: how can i boot up with the live cd, it starts booting into the live cd and gets stuck, here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63269/
[11:45] <jolson> pajamian: Hmm, I'm not sure.
[11:45] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: just one more question (if you know virtualbox details) - fresh install WinXP using ACPI or not?
[11:45] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  it isnt installed, its just the install cd from the site: ubuntu 7.10
[11:45] <unop> hyperstream, i see
[11:45] <unop> hyperstream, this is the first ubuntu install on that machine?
[11:46] <ttkeppi> Does hardy beta update itself automatically into the final release? -or is it recommended to do a fresh install when final release is out?
[11:46] <pajamian> jolson: well, if you are dual booting windows then it would be recommended to have the system clock set to local time because windows requires it, but also windows changes the clock for DST and ubuntu knows this so it won't update the clock for you unless you are using NTP
[11:46] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, 1 sec
[11:46] <hyperstream> unop yes
[11:46] <arvind_khadri> unop, yeah
[11:46] <unop> ttkeppi, just upgrade .. and hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:46] <kelvin911> how to use chmod command?
[11:46] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, yes
[11:46] <kelvin911> what if i want to change  it to rwxrwxrwx?
[11:46] <cros13> mornin' all, i got a quick question. what is the procedure for submitting a package? i went to launchpad and someone had setup a project for the program but submitted no code. I set up an import from svn but the importer hasent got to it yet. what's the next step?
[11:47] <hyperstream> unop: failed to set xfermode i had this issue- after googling on it, it told me to put irqpoll in boot options: which worked, but now stuck with the pastebin, i have burnt 3cd, checked 2 both fine, just used one to install ubuntu on this box today,
[11:47] <ttkeppi> unop, thanks
[11:47] <unop> hyperstream, you've tried the acpi=off and noacpi options right?
[11:47] <Ziroda1> kelvin911: chmod ugo=rwx /x/y/z/file
[11:47] <pajamian> jolson: if you don't dual boot to windows, though, then it's actually recommended to set your clock to GMT and you can tell this to ubuntu and ubuntu will display the correct local time.
[11:47] <ricanelite> what is a GREAT graphics card that will run great on Ubuntu Linux
[11:47] <hyperstream> unop i have tried: noacpi acpi=off apm=on irqpoll
[11:47] <vladi_> hi, I'm using ubuntu 8.04 and Trying to understand where iptables' rules are stored? Where's the logs of iptables? I can't see any configs...
[11:47] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, and for RAW disk you want all three options checked... ACPI, IO APIC and the VT one
[11:47] <crimsun> vladi_: #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <jolson> pajamian: I do have dualboot, but I haven't started Windows for a long time. When I set the time manually in Ubuntu, it reverts automatically after some time.
[11:47] <kelvin911> what if i wan rwxr---w- ??
[11:47] <g[r]eek> Hi why do I get BusyBox prompt screen after booting up?
[11:47] <kelvin911> is there easy way to change?
[11:47] <ricanelite> Where I could have all of the Compiz-Fusion and Eye-Candy going on with no problems, and will also run most Linux Games with no problems
[11:48] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: ok. for fresh install probably without ACPI is better
[11:48] <hyperstream> ive been googling around too, aparently a guy who had the same issue fixed his with: noacpi acpi=off apm=on  | but it still trys to cat the file
[11:48] <unop> hyperstream, well, to rule out a problem with your computer, you can download the minimal/netinstall CD image and try it out
[11:48] <Ziroda1> ricanelite: most nvidia cards work very well, however the drivers for them are not GPL'ed. I don't there actually is a open source graphics card
[11:48] <kelvin911> then chmod u=rwx,g=r,o=x ?
[11:48] <pajamian> jolson: just boot windows, then.  ubuntu is not changing the time because it expects windows to do it.  If ubuntu changed the time it would end up changing twice and advancing the clock two hours.
[11:48] <ricanelite> okay
[11:48] <master_> سلام عليكم
[11:48] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, a fresh install to a virtual disk, with ACPI
[11:48] <master_> الوووووووووووووووو
[11:48] <mmm4m5m> ok
[11:48] <vladi_> crimsun: ok
[11:48] <unop> kelvin911, chmod 742 file
[11:48] <ay^> My nvidia hates me and freezes if I use compiz or dual screen
[11:49] <ay^> or.. my computer freezes when I do that
[11:49] <kelvin911> whats 742?
[11:49] <Ziroda1> kelvin911: correct, u = user g = group o = other
[11:49] <kelvin911> is there tutorial?
[11:49] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: see    man chmod
[11:49] <hyperstream> unop:  sounds good- there is however one other thing, it fails to modprobe a wifi module i believe before it gets to that stage. let me load it to the issue again
[11:49] <mjbrooks> ay^, it doesn't hate you, it's trying to save you from getting eye-cavities
[11:49] <d31`home> not sure if you guys have seen this or not, but http://www.feedzero.com is a pretty neat tool
[11:49] <Ziroda1> unop: learning it as ugo=rwx is far easier then 742 or 544
[11:49] <unop> hyperstream, worry about wireless when you have finished
[11:49] <ikonia> !offtopic > d31`home
[11:49] <ay^> mjbrooks: oh.. :)
[11:50] <ricanelite> but I'm trying to find a high-end graphics card that will work with Ubuntu with no issues. Especially when I do the eye-candy stuff. Like my current graphics card works great with Compiz/Eyecandy and I could also run Counter Strike, Urban Terror, World of Warcraft with the Compiz/Eyecandy still open and it runs great.
[11:50] <unop> Ziroda1, is it? you have to get to knowing what it is at some stage, and it's never too early to learn something that simple
[11:50] <ay^> the compiz part I can do without, but I'd really enjoy having dual screens
[11:50] <kelvin911> u is?
[11:50] <mjbrooks> ay^, after all, when was the last time you brush your eyes after looking at eye-candy?
[11:50] <kelvin911> u = user?
[11:50] <kelvin911> g= group?
[11:50] <ay^> haha
[11:50] <jolson> pajamian: Actually, my Windows is defunct as of now. We may assume I'll never use it again, so I'd like to set things up accordingly.
[11:50] <kelvin911> o=owner?
[11:50] <Ziroda1> kelvin911: u = user (owner)
[11:50] <ricanelite> yeah, I'm trying to get dual screen on my linux box going
[11:50] <ay^> mjbrooks: Yeah, thats was quite some time ago
[11:50] <Ziroda1> kelvin911: o = other
[11:50] <g[r]eek> Hi why do I get BusyBox prompt screen after booting up?
[11:50] <ikonia> ricanelite: the current choice is limited to nvidia
[11:51] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: from the man:  the user who owns it (u), other users in the  file’s group  (g),  other  users not in the file’s group (o), or all users (a).
[11:51] <brett> ricanelite, to get very high fps while gaming with compiz you're going to need a real decent card, something 8800+
[11:51] <linggz> Hi all
[11:51] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/Linux_101.htm
[11:51] <ricanelite> I have a 17"Gateway and a 37" Phillips LCD HDTV via HDMI and I could get it working but the menu bars are cut off from the top and I have it at 1280x720 resolution
[11:51] <unop> kelvin911, 742 is an octal representation of u=rwx,g=r,o=w .. more on unix permissions here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permissions#Octal_notation
[11:52] <ikonia> ricanelite: thats just the resolution being wrong or the position
[11:52] <ricanelite> yeah I get good FPS now, but I'm just building a new machine and just wanted to get a good graphics card for Linux
[11:52] <Ziroda1> unop: if it accepts octal then it will accept ugo=rwx, why make it complicated?
[11:52] <ay^> All I can get going in dual screen with my TFT screen and LCD TV is like 800x600
[11:52] <ay^> and thats somehow sucks..
[11:52] <pajamian> jolson: ok, then, I would recommend settign your system clock to GMT, one sec, though, I don't actually know how off the top of my head other than doing it during install (there is a way, though, gimme a sec to figure it out)...
[11:52] <grunt> Hi all I have a question I am setting up my interfaces and when I restart it I get an error I am following the tutorial here ( http://my.opera.com/albuemil/blog/2007/01/04/installing-ubuntu-server-2 ) and I am having no luck....
[11:52] <ikonia> ricanelite: your options are limited to nvidia
[11:52] <unop> Ziroda1, see my reply to you prior to this
[11:52] <ricanelite> well nvidia is fine
[11:52] <ricanelite> always used them in the past
[11:52] <ikonia> grunt what is the error
[11:53] <linggz> I just Install postgresql successfully. Anyone know how to change the pasword of default username called "postgrasql
[11:53] <hyperstream> unop: the error message is: modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting iwlwifi_rc80211_simple (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/iwlwifi/mac80211/origin/net/mac80211/iwlwifi_rc80211_simple.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmsg)   ---- but i cant see dmesg can i :P
[11:53] <brett> slightly off topic, I've had 3 ati cards melt on me, both nvidia ones kept strong :|
[11:53] <chaos_> 你好
[11:53] <hyperstream> unop: should i try this: ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[11:53] <unop> linggz, log on as that user with, sudo -u postgresql  # and change the password with.  passwd
[11:54] <grunt> ikonia it says /etc/network/interfaces:2: misplaced option then goes on to say that it cant read the file
[11:54] <unop> hyperstream, sure, do try -- but again, don't worry about wireless too much at this stage
[11:54] <grunt> and I copied exactly what is on that tutorial I linked abovr
[11:54] <g[r]eek> linggz: Yeah: sudo -u postgres psql template1
[11:54] <pajamian> !time | jolson (here ya go, this link tells ya all about it, change yoru clock to UTC and install NTP per the directions)
[11:54] <ubotu> jolson (here ya go, this link tells ya all about it, change yoru clock to UTC and install NTP per the directions): Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[11:54] <ikonia> grunt: why do you have an interfaces:2: file ?
[11:54] <DistroJockey> hyperstream: definately, I believe it supports more hardware (could be wrong on that) I always use alternate.
[11:54] <g[r]eek> linggz: then ALTER USER postgres  WITH PASSWORD 'your password';
[11:54] <hyperstream> unop: is there anyway to make it 'no worry' about the wireless?
[11:54] <g[r]eek> linggz: then \q
[11:54] <ikonia> grunt: pastebin your interfaces file
[11:55] <grunt> I dont know how to copy in linux haha (im also in vmware atm)
[11:55] <unop> g[r]eek, that changes the password within postgresql itself, i dont think thats what he meant
[11:55] <jolson> pajamian: Thanks, but I didn't see any link.
[11:55] <ikonia> grunt: then we can't help you
[11:55] <pajamian> jolson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[11:55] <ikonia> !pastebin > grunt
[11:55] <unop> hyperstream, well, you should "not worry" .. it should ignore it
[11:55] <jolson> pajamian:  Ah, sorry.
[11:55] <ikonia> grunt: see the link from uobut
[11:55] <grunt> thankyou
[11:55] <linggz> Thanks.. I'll try
[11:56] <pajamian> jolson: no worries
[11:56] <g[r]eek> unop: Oh my bad I misread. unop I got a new DLINK network card and now the networking is fine. But I get this "BusyBox" prompt every now and then when I reset my box
[11:56] <hyperstream> unop:  as we can see it doesnt tho it still trys to config the network ?
[11:56] <Chukchi_Husky> I'm trying to get a Netgear FA311 v2 network card to work.
[11:56] <g[r]eek> unop: No idea why - but I need to fix it because it's a server that sits on-site at a client and everything needs to load up (ie: webserver) after power-up
[11:56] <Lamego> !ccsm
[11:56] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[11:56] <unop> hyperstream, start the install off with the alternate CD, we'll deal with any problems then
[11:57] <unop> g[r]eek, what do you mean by "reset the box" ?
[11:57] <Mba7eth> exit
[11:57] <unop> g[r]eek, do you mean reboot?
[11:58] <kelvin911> how to use fdformat command?
[11:58] <g[r]eek> unop: Where I live we are prone to power failures - so I have installed a simple UPS that gives my client 25 minutes to shut down the box - I instruct him to simply press the power button on the linux box as I believe this initiates the shut-down phase of ubuntu. But now I'm getting "BusyBox" prompt when it boots back up
[11:58] <kelvin911> fdformat /dev/fd0?
[11:58] <DistroJockey> kelvin911:  man fdformat
[11:58] <mingers> is there any way to message other users logged in?
[11:58] <bullgard4> holloway: Kenn ich. Meine Frage bezog sich mehr darauf, ob GNOME eine per Default spendiert hat.
[11:58] <kelvin911> i dont understand what it is saying there
[11:58] <ikonia> mingers: talk
[11:59] <mingers> ikonia: thanks
[11:59] <ikonia> bullgard4: english only please.
[11:59] <mingers> is that ubuntu specific?
[11:59] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, so whaqt you're saying is you've been having the client hard stop the server and now it's broken
[11:59] <ikonia> mingers: no
[11:59] <hyperstream> unop:  nps ill get back to you in about 30 mins
[11:59] <unop> g[r]eek, i'm sure there are better ways to automate this process -- whereby a script is invoked when the system detects low battery on the UPS -- it would be recommended this be done instead
[11:59] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: btw, gparted show sda8 as 980 MB
[12:00] <unop> g[r]eek, how is the UPS connected upto the comp?
[12:00] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, yowzer... that's wierd
[12:00] <g[r]eek> mjbrooks: Ok but doesn't pressing the power button just do the same as clicking on the shutdown button? It definately does some work after the button is pressed so its not like its a total hard stop?
[12:00] <kelvin911> how to check the /dev/??? for usb floppy again?  i keep forgetting
[12:00] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, physical buttons are not like software buttons
[12:01] <g[r]eek> unop: Just a simple power cable. The ups itself has a UTP input/output which I could probably use to "detect" low battery etc
[12:01] <g[r]eek> mjbrooks: So what you're saying is that although it still does some work after I press the power button, it's not actually doing the shut down?
[12:01] <unop> g[r]eek, the "UPS howto" should help you then
[12:02] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, some work, but the question is what work
[12:02] <kelvin911> how to check my floppy drive?
[12:02] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, I usually disconnect the power button on the front of my servers
[12:02] <kelvin911> i dont knw if it is /dev/sd# ??? #=?
[12:03] <Schypher_> hello
[12:03] <kelvin911> found it
[12:03] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: no idea what a USB floppy gets for a device name, it will be somewhere in   /dev   though
[12:03] <g[r]eek> unop: So I'd have to program a script that the UPS can call whenever there is a power failure?
[12:03] <kelvin911> with command mount
[12:03] <g[r]eek> unop: It's either that or I have to leave a monitor and mouse connected to the server and instruct my client to click on the shut down button...
[12:04] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, such scripts are probably supplied on the UPS manufacturer's website
[12:04] <linggz> g[r]eek, not working, I'm still get error msg "fatal error: ident auth fail for user postgres so what next
[12:04] <g[r]eek> linggz: You need to change ident sameuser to md5
[12:04] <kelvin911> so to format a floppy do i do fdformat /dev/sdi ???
[12:05] <kelvin911> Could not determine current format type: Invalid argument
[12:05] <g[r]eek> linggz: sudo nano /etc/postgresql-8.2/main/pg_hba.conf (assuming you're using 8.2)
[12:05] <pajamian> linggz: if postgresql is using ident auth then you have to be logged in as the user postgres on the system in order to use the user postgres in postgresql.
[12:05] <g[r]eek> linggz: the change "local all postgres ident sameuser" to "locall all postgres md5"
[12:07] <gaE4> can anyone tell me how to switch off the shortcut Alt+right Mouseclick? And how to switch it on after!
[12:07] <g[r]eek> unop, mjbrooks - what is the BusyBox prompt anyway and why am I getting it?
[12:07] <unop_> g[r]eek, it's a rescue shell basically -- you are taken to it if the system cannot do a normal boot
[12:08] <jolson> pajamian: I have tried the instructions now. I hope it works. Thanks.
[12:08] <pajamian> jolson: yw and good luck
[12:08] <g[r]eek> unop_: And it fails to do a normal boot because? I'm assuming because of the hard stop as mjbrooks put it?
[12:08] <g[r]eek> linggz: Did that work?
[12:09] <g[r]eek> linggz: Also check out #postgresql - they are just as helpful as the guys in here, except their focus is postgresql
[12:09] <linggz> do i have to restart the service ?
[12:09] <unop_> g[r]eek,  well, the only way to find out quite definitively would be to examine the log files and dmesg -- yea, i suspect the hard stop really does bork something or the other
[12:09] <DistroJockey> g[r]eek: this issue?:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/217616
[12:09] <g[r]eek> linggz: yeah
[12:09] <mojo> Hi.  I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) and have desktop effects on (compiz-fusion).  But it seems to me that metacity is loading first, then compiz loading.  How can I be sure it starts compiz-fusion as the wm w/o it loading metacity first?  I'd still like metacity as a crash-fallback though, if possible.
[12:09] <unop_> g[r]eek, what do you have to do to get the system to boot normally once you see this prompt?
[12:09] <g[r]eek> linggz: sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.2 reload
[12:09] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, what is the wording of the error again?
[12:09] <g[r]eek> unop_: Heh, I just press ctrl + alt + del and it boots fine
[12:10] <g[r]eek> mjbrooks: Wording of what error?
[12:10] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, the busy box
[12:10] <grunt> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63274/ that is my interfaces file
[12:10] <g[r]eek> mjbrooks: It's no error per se - just a prompt
[12:10] <pajamian> g[r]eek: iirc you mentioned before that you used the power button to turn the computer off.  You mean the physical button on the computer case?
[12:11] <mjbrooks> pajamian, yep that's what he means
[12:11] <g[r]eek> pajamian: Yup. mjbrooks pointed out that although this does seem to do work on the pc before turning it off, it's not the same a normal shut down
[12:11] <linggz> :( still not working, I'm using pgadmin (gui) to connect to
[12:11] <pajamian> g[r]eek: correct, you should not shut down the computer that way except as a last resort.
[12:11] <ikonia> grunt: that looks quite normal
[12:11] <g[r]eek> pajamian: So I'm guessing that this hardstopping is causing the busybox prompt to come up
[12:11] <unop_> g[r]eek, it could be that the BIOS has an option to shut off the computer right away (or with a short delay) once the power button is pressed
[12:12] <grunt> yes indeed which makes me wonder why I am getting the error
[12:12] <g[r]eek> Ok
[12:12] <grunt> the command I am using to restart the interface is /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:12] <unop_> g[r]eek, thereby not allowing the system to go through runlevel S/6 (??) and do a proper shutdown
[12:12] <g[r]eek> So am I correct in concluding that my only 2 options are 1) leave a monitor and mouse connected to the server and having my client manually shut down, or 2) use a UPS triggered script
[12:12] <kelvin911> why cant write to  a floppy that is created by other linux?
[12:13] <kelvin911> should everything in floppy rwxrwxrwx??
[12:13] <ricanelite> is this graphics card worth the purchase for Ubuntu linux? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130299
[12:13] <DistroJockey> pajamian: g[r]eek: I know the ancient RHEL 4 shuts down gracefully with a tap of the power button
[12:13] <kelvin911> why it is rwx------ ???
[12:13] <unop_> g[r]eek, why don't you educate the user to shutdown the machine properly? :) and yea, a script would be nice
[12:13] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, you really need to read some basic howtos
[12:13] <g[r]eek> unop_: Yeah but I was hoping to not clutter the server room with a monitor and mouse...
[12:14] <wildman> hello there. I've removed Ubuntu's Sun Java packages, and installed (unpacked + setup envvars) Sun's latest JDK (1.6.05 as opposed to Ubuntu's 1.6.03). Now, my desktop and toolbar shortcuts to Java apps won't work anymore stating they cannot find 'java' (which IS on the PATH), any ideas?
[12:14] <egoleo> hey guys whats wrong with this command plse
[12:14] <askand> I am having problem with wireless internet..the networkmanager disconnects me and I have to reboot to be connected again,..
[12:14] <egoleo>  ls | grep "yatra" | grep "Mar" |  /home/deepika/dataCruncher/backEnd/pollingPrograms/reportParser/testingReports
[12:14] <ricanelite> or this card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150253
[12:14] <g[r]eek> unop_: I like the idea of a auto-triggered script  - it might be complicated to set up the first time but I can use it on all my clients going forward
[12:14] <unop_> g[r]eek, he could do it remotely too -- but anyway, better to used UPS to its full potential
[12:15] <erUSUL> egoleo: the last command on the pipe is a normal file ??
[12:15] <void^> wildman: make /etc/alternatives/java point to your java
[12:15] <g[r]eek> unop_: Lol, I should introduce you to my client - you'd then understand why this isn't an option :)
[12:15] <unop_> g[r]eek, the UPS howto should give you an idea about how this is done .. atleast you know how feasible it is then
[12:15] <egoleo> yeah
[12:15] <unop_> g[r]eek, :)