[00:08] <craigbass1976> Anyone had trouble with hplip lately?  I just grabbed the latest one and can't get anything to print on either a lucid or a precise box.  Three other precise boxes though in my house print fine
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: how do the systems connect to the printer?
[00:11] <Strategos> Heya hiya.
[00:12] <k4r1m> Strategos: wein?
[00:13] <k4r1m> Strategos: or fain*?
[00:13] <craigbass1976> ActionParsnip, wireless.  I think I just found out what I was doing wrong during the install.
[00:14] <Strategos> k4rlm: Pardon my ignorance, but what is Wein?  (Mein Spanisch ist viel besser dann mein Deutsch.)
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> craigbass1976: a step in the right direction, hope it's the magic bullet :)
[00:15] <MASTERPIECE> anyone know a program that I wanted to run Android applications
[00:16] <malkauns_> in byobu can u get the status bar to show stuff for any machine u ssh into? rather than just the first machine?
[00:16] <k4r1m> Strategos: it's like where, north african dialect.
[00:16] <dietrichman> looking for a method to remove unity 3d so I can just use unity 2D (on my netbook)....??
[00:17] <blackshirt> k4r1m, if you know extended partition,that is
[00:17] <Strategos> k4rlm: Interesting.  The word 'Strategos' is actually from ancient Greek (and by extension, Greek as it currently is).  The common English translation is "army general".
[00:17] <MASTERPIECE> anyone know a program that I wanted to run Android applications????
[00:18] <dietrichman> if i cant remove unity 3d on its own, is there any way to auto start unity 2d at boot up (ubuntu 12.04)....??
[00:18] <xangua> dietrichman: you don't need to remove anything, just select unity 2d in the login screen (ubuntu icon next to your username)
[00:18] <Strategos> k4rlm: I took it as my character's surname in the game Star Wars: The Old Republic, in which I played a trooper.
[00:18] <k4r1m> blackshirt: I fixed it... thank god for boot-repair
[00:18] <craigbass1976> MASTERPIECE, isn't there an sdk you can get?
[00:18] <pepperjack> MASTERPIECE: you need to an emulator or just an entire VM.  for example http://crashcourse.ca/content/android-emulator-ubuntu-1004-60-seconds
[00:19] <Wavelight> hello
[00:19] <Strategos> hello
, i understand that, since i cannot remove unity 3d, is there a script to boot automatically into 2D, instead of having to push the icon next to username?
, does it not remember your last choice of which GUI you selected?
[00:20] <Wavelight> I want to build a linux router, I am a Windows user, what yould you recomand me fast,secure, and stable ?
[00:21] <Strategos> I'm curious because it generally remembers if I've selected Gnome or Unity.
[00:21] <Wavelight> a distribution based on Ubuntu LTS
[00:21] <morgan> what program can transfer music to an ipod on ubuntu?
[00:21] <dietrichman> i am not sure to be honest, it looked like last login when i didnt hit the icon for 2d, it automatically booted into 3d.....is it supposed to boot into whatever your last session was (by default)?
[00:21] <pepperjack> Wavelight: you want to build it on a PC?  what about just openwrt firmware or something
[00:21] <Wavelight> I found Ubuntu server pretty hard to configure
[00:21] <shihan> Wavelight, personally, if i were going to do a router, i'd use either devil linux or openwrt... but 12.04 server would be fine for a router
[00:21] <Wavelight> yes, on a pc
[00:21] <Strategos> Wavelight: That really depends on how comfortable you are with the command line.
[00:22] <blackshirt> shihan,yes
[00:22] <Strategos> But I've heard some good things about the OpenWRT and some of the BSD-based solutions for firewall.
[00:22] <shihan> i really quite like x86 openwrt myself (though im not a fan of their firewall gui, the zones bit)
[00:22] <blackshirt> strategos, thats good if you could configure them correctly
[00:23] <Strategos> Blackshirt: True.  I've simply read on them a bit; I haven't done personal testing.
[00:23] <pepperjack> Wavelight: you probably will want some sort of iptable frontend then maybe shorewall?  something like that?
[00:23] <blackshirt> Strategos, and you familiar with it
[00:23] <Wavelight> can I use Ubuntu and add some intrusion prevention on it ?
[00:23] <blackshirt> wavelight,yes,sure
[00:24] <Wavelight> is there any good book for novice in Ubuntu Server?
[00:24] <Strategos> Blackshirt: Not extensively, no.  I played with FreeBSD and PC-BSD before coming to Ubuntu.  It wasn't quite was I was hoping for as a replacement for Windows.
[00:24] <Wavelight> I want to do several things
[00:24] <pepperjack> Wavelight: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router  good place to start at least
[00:24] <blackshirt> wavelight, go to help.ubuntu.com...
i am not sure to be honest, it looked like last login when i didnt hit the icon for 2d, it automatically booted into 3d.....is it supposed to boot into whatever your last session was (by default)?
[00:25] <Strategos> Blackshirt: I'm treating my conversion much like I did when I started with PCs back in the early 90's.  I kept mostly in the GUI until I was comfortable doing what I needed in the command line.  I /may/ switch to something BSD-based at that point.   Best suite for replacing your windows was ubuntu or mint, or fedora .... That was easy use distro
 good suggestion, I will try it....thanks
 Based on how you phrased your question - I'm curious: do you have Ubuntu logging you in automatically?
nope, have it set to enter my password for login
[00:27] <blackshirt> strategos, you can all command line on linux ...
[00:27] <Strategos> Blackshirt: That was my thinking too.  I had simply found Ubuntu before I had heard of Mint.  I'll admit that Fedora isn't something I had looked into with much seriousness.
[00:27] <Strategos> Blackshirt: Yes, I know.  It's very powerful, which is one of the reasons it attracts me over the Microsoft rendition of MacOS.
[00:27] <krios> where does google chrome store file downloads?
[00:27] <Wavelight> please tell me, if you could let-s say to put some comand and tell the Ubuntu Server not to accept any login for 1 year, it would be more secure as a router ?
[00:27] <krios> i was downloading a zip of gifs i found on reddit.
 Right on.  But yes, my experience is that Ubuntu remembered my preference.
[00:28] <krios> said my hard disk is full
[00:28] <Strategos> Krios: /home/username/Downloads
[00:28] <blackshirt> krios, in your Downloads dir on your home dir
[00:28] <krios> Strategos: even if it doesn't complete?
[00:28] <krios> its not in /var/.... somethin
[00:28] <Wavelight> is it possible to block any login for a period of time in Ubuntu Server ?
[00:29] <Strategos> Wavelight: I don't believe that it would be a good idea to prevent a login of any sort for any specied period of time.
[00:29] <MASTERPIECE> now how to install some  android  aplication
[00:29] <krios> Strategos: thanks
[00:29] <krios> blackshirt: thanks
[00:29] <blackshirt> wavelight, what do you mean with block login?
[00:29] <Strategos> Krios - you're welcome.
[00:29] <rob_p> Wavelight: That's not the right approach, really.
[00:30] <blackshirt> wavelight, tehnically,you can prevent user to login
[00:30] <Strategos> Wavelight: You might have better luck setting rules that only permit login from console, rather than from, oh, TTY (an SSH connection).
[00:30] <pepperjack> Wavelight: you might be happier looking at some of the x86 router distros.  I'm sure there are some nice ones
[00:30] <Wavelight> well, I-am not an expert on it security, but I gues if I would somehow find a way to block any attempt to loging to my Ubuntu Server it would me more secure, I think
[00:30] <Strategos> Wavelight: And Blackshirt's right.  One way to prevent any login is to set all users to log into some bogus shell.
[00:31] <dbdavis> #ardour
[00:31] <Strategos> Wavelight: True, but if something goes wonky with the operating system, you're quite screwed - you won't be able to fix it.
[00:31] <Strategos> Short of reinstalling, that is.
[00:31] <Wavelight> I could keep close a pc for a quick replacement, I need only for routing
[00:32] <Wavelight> bogus shell, please exaplin
[00:32] <Strategos> Wavelight: Well, I'll use an example.  Let's say that by default, Ubuntu sets all new users up to log into a "bash" shell.
[00:32] <Wavelight> Strategos- bogus shell means ...
[00:32] <Strategos> Wavelight: Shells are akin to the command prompt in Windows.
[00:33] <Strategos> Wavelight: Each Linux shell (ch, bash, and so on) has a slightly different layout and interaction.
[00:33] <blackshirt> wavelight, you can build a router with ubuntu,exactly, but maybe better if you very new on ubuntu/linux, use dedicated router distro that available on the internet
[00:33] <Strategos> Wavelight: Rather than having users log in and be able to access Bash (CMD for Windows), you put them in something like NOTEPAD.EXE.
[00:33] <Wavelight> yes, sure that comand line is far more powerfull, it-s harder untill you learn it
[00:34] <Strategos> Wavelight: So they can't feasibly do anything that would be "bad" for the system.
[00:34] <Strategos> Wavelight: Well, that's subjective. ;)
[00:34] <Strategos> Wavelight: "Hard" is based on how motivated you are to learn it and how experienced you are with command line interface before getting into it.
[00:34] <PaloDelCalo> porcelle notturne vogliose a me!
[00:35] <Strategos> Wavelight: DOS (and the Windows command prompt) are something I spent the last 20 years using, so I'm not uncomfortable learning it.  But I can't stand VI.
[00:35] <Strategos> Wavelight: But alas, everyone knows VI.  So I'm learning it.
[00:35] <Strategos> VI is one of the few constants in the *nix world. :)
[00:36] <Wavelight> I-ve had a pc with dos for about an year or so, anyway comand line is a for sure for people that know what they are doing
[00:36] <Wavelight> to be honest, desktop distros are brainwasing users
[00:36] <Wavelight> :}
[00:37] <Strategos> Wavelight: Aye, it's a powerful tool to know how to use.  some of my coworkers rave about the new powershell that Microsoft rolled out too.
[00:37] <Wavelight> easy, but you have no ideea what- behind it
[00:37] <Strategos> Wavelight: They're lowering their expectations of what end users need to know how to do; "dumbing down".  When I saw Windows 7, I wanted to migrate.  When I saw Windows 8, I knew I was migrating.
[00:39] <Strategos> So a Linux admin, a PC user, and a Mac user walk into a bar.  The bartender asks, "What is this, a joke?"
[00:40] <sarsaeol> i like that the linux is an admin, but the pc and mac are just users
[00:40] <sarsaeol> ha
[00:40] <Wavelight> :}
[00:41] <Wavelight> Strategos, I-ve had an ideea about how you can point if a system is hacked or no, it-s a very simple ideea
[00:42] <Wavelight> please listen
[00:42] <Wavelight> I don-t know about nothing of informatincs
[00:42] <Wavelight> but
[00:43] <Code_Bleu> can someone help me figure out why my computer just randomly locks up? sometimes it gives me a kernel panic screen, other times it just locks up and monitor is blank and leds flash on keyboard (scroll and caps)  I have tried looking at all the /var/log files but i can find anything
[00:43] <blackshirt> wavelight,change the login shell to nologin shell,
[00:43] <Wavelight> if all the web pages would have a ""fingerprint"" like www.ubuntu.com has exactly 1 mb for example
[00:43] <Code_Bleu> i have ran memtest, hd test, and have upgraded from JeOS 9.04 server to 12.04
[00:44] <Strategos> Code_Bleu: My first guess would be that it's an issue with your RAM.  Specifically, the RAM and the motherboard aren't getting along.  Either it's mismatched speeds on the sticks, or the RAM sticks aren't compatible with the motherbard.
[00:44] <Strategos> My next guess would be a video card issue.
[00:44] <Wavelight> and I measure the exact amount of transfer beetween the pc and the server, I would see for sure if a few bits are added or no
[00:45] <Code_Bleu> Strategos: this is a server that i have had for a while now and it has always worked. Im wanting to say atleast 2 or 3 years
[00:46] <pepperjack> Code_Bleu: did you see this in 9.04 as well or not until you upgraded?
[00:46] <Strategos> Wavelight: If I had to guess, IP transfer traffic will always have a slightly higher count for bits/bytes because of header information.
[00:46] <Vermicelli> I'm having trouble getting my Humble Bundle to install with Ubuntu Software Center. I get a "Not Found," for each title, which oddly enough while not found may or may not have ratings.
[00:46] <Code_Bleu> Strategos: it just started doing this, and nothing had changed that im aware of. This server just runs and i hadnt done any updates to it...it runs vbox and one vm on there...thats it
[00:46] <Vermicelli> http://i.imgur.com/GkUyX.png
[00:47] <Strategos> Code_Bleu: Thank you for the clarification on that.  That is certainly unusual.
[00:47] <Code_Bleu> pepperjack: no, i did all the upgrading to see if it would fix the issue.  I had been on 9.04 since it came out and it has worked forever...just in the past few weeks has it randomly started crashing...and it seems to be getting worse
[00:47] <aguitel_> the fan is not stop in my laptop ,how fix this?
[00:48] <Wavelight> yes, I understand, but it-s possible to take them into account with great precision, no ?
[00:48] <Strategos> Atuitel: Replace the fan.
[00:48] <Strategos> Atuitel: It's not uncommon for fans to stop working.  They're not overly expensive parts.
[00:48] <Strategos> Atuitel: If you're paying someone to do it, you're likely to spend more in labor than the actual part.
[00:49] <Code_Bleu> i have ran smarttools to check the hd and it comes back ok., i have ran fsck on all the partitions..and its good.  i ran memtest, but not for a long time. Usually bad memory is detected right away
[00:49] <blackshirt> code_bleu, what the messages appears when your kernel panic lastly?
[00:49] <Strategos> Wavelight: Probably.  To be honest, I don't specialize in this area.  So I don't know that I could give you an answer that would be overly helpful.
[00:49] <Vermicelli> I think aguitel_ said the fan doesn't stop running, not that it has stopped.
[00:50] <Code_Bleu> i just wished i knew how to get the dumps/logs so i could troubleshoot it...however im not finding anything usefull in /var/log/message /var/log/syslog/ ..etc.
[00:50] <pepperjack> Code_Bleu: well if you saw it between that many versions then its a hardware issue of some sort.  once I noticed that all the video on one of my pcs had artifacts all of a sudden.  I did everything to figure out what the problem was with what driver.  turned out it was one of the cores id unlocked in bios on my cpu.  worked for 2 years and then all of a sudden caused problems
[00:50] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: the last 10+ times i dont get a panic...just black monitor..monitor led flashes...and sometimes the keyboard has scroll lock and caps lock flashing..i just have to hit the power button and reboot
[00:51] <Wavelight> Strategos- no problem, I was just wondering if all the webpages and all the services on the internet would have some special syncronisation it would be very very dificult for hacker to act in silence
[00:51] <blackshirt> code_bleu, can you switch to other console, i mean hit ctrl+alt+f2 for example
[00:52] <Wavelight> for example I open a webapge, I don-t know what size it has and what contains
[00:52] <Strategos> Wavelight: Aye.    We got fun and games.
[00:52] <Strategos> Suddenly, I realize that I feel old.
[00:53] <Strategos> Wow.  I've quoted an old man's song.
[00:53] <Wavelight> no problem, I use someking of freez for my operating system
[00:53] <Wavelight> :}
[00:53] <Strategos> :}
[00:53] <Wavelight> I have no problems with hackers
[00:53] <blackshirt> code_bleu, is your magic sysrq functioning?
[00:53] <PatrickJameson> hey all, I'm attempting to change my xorg config to turn off my laptop screen when there's an external monitor attached
[00:54] <PatrickJameson> here's my config file: http://pastie.org/4756857
[00:54] <PatrickJameson> I changed line 51/52
[00:54] <blackshirt> wavelight, exactly, i don't understand what is your need..sure
[00:54] <PatrickJameson> it seems to work when I'm on the log in screen
[00:54] <Strategos> Hackers have a purpose, sort of like predators do.  They point out where our weaknesses are, and provide us an opportunity to learn. There's even a certification for Certified EthicalHacker.
[00:54] <PatrickJameson> but as soon as I log in, it switches back to my laptop screen
[00:54] <Wavelight> by the way, Strategos, please tell me if I can use some king of freez for Ubuntu Server
[00:55] <aguitel_> Vermicelli,and the raviole ?
[00:55] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: whats that?
[00:55] <blackshirt> patrickjameson, i think you messed up some file on your home dir
[00:55] <PatrickJameson> which file do you think that is?
[00:56] <PatrickJameson> I backed up the one in /etc/X11 and edited that one
[00:56] <Strategos> Wavelight: If you're using Ubuntu server, you have it covered like a jimmy hat.
[00:56] <blackshirt> code_blue, thats internal linux mechanism to allow the panic kernel to do some safe step
[00:57] <PatrickJameson> ...actually if there's an xorg config file in my home dir will it over ride?
[00:57] <PatrickJameson> cause that's where I happened to back it up ;D
[00:57] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: so when it locks up again, just press that key on keyboard?
[00:57] <Wavelight> I don-t user a Ubuntu Server, I don-t understand you have covered like a jimmy hat
[00:57] <Wavelight> lol
[00:59] <blackshirt> code_blue, yes, some combinatorial keyboard keys with sysrq(print screen key on some keyboard)..google it for more information
[01:00] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: googling now :)
[01:00] <zykotick9> !reisub | Code_Bleu
[01:00] <blackshirt> code_blue, you should find a lot of informations
[01:02] <Code_Bleu> zykotick9: thanks. im assuming this is only for soft lock ups?
[01:02] <craigbass1976> Ok, I give up.  I installed hplip off the hplip open source site, and everything looks like it went hunky dory.  Whenever I print though, I get some message about a required plugin not found.  I've done a sudo hp-plugin again, everything looked fine, and still no printing wiht the same error
[01:02] <Code_Bleu> zykotick9: this is good to know for cleanly shutting down or rebooting, but how do i figure out what caused the lock up in the first place?
[01:03] <PatrickJameson> blackshirt: do you have any ideas as to which file might be screwing with me
[01:03] <PatrickJameson> ?
[01:03] <zykotick9> Code_Bleu: don't know how you can find out cause...  only use reisub for emergencies, not just regular shutdown/reboot!
[01:04] <blackshirt> patrickjameson, ls -la your home dir, and look at .ICEauthority files .... Is that files owned by root?
[01:05] <Code_Bleu> zykotick9: yes i understand only use this for emergency when pc is locked up.  right now ive just been hitting power button and turning back on.  Im not worried about clean shutdown, i want to figure out why it doing this in the first place and i cant find any logs saying what is causing it.
[01:06] <zykotick9> Code_Bleu: i know ubuntu uses 2 logs for kernel these days (but i'm affraid i don't know the names)
[01:06] <blackshirt> code_blue, maybe you want to look at dmesg log, boot log, syslog, messages
[01:07] <zykotick9> Code_Bleu: syslog and messages i guess... so you probably already checked them...
[01:07] <PatrickJameson> blackshirt: no
[01:07] <PatrickJameson> owned by me
[01:07] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: i have :(
[01:08] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: when it kernel panics / locks up...does it actually write something to a log?  do i need to configure something so it will?
[01:08] <blackshirt> code_blue, are you using desktop or server version?
[01:08] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: can i possible get this info from using the sysrq key combo?
[01:09] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: server JeOS
[01:10] <Wavelight> Strategos, thank you very much for your informations, have a nice evening
[01:10] <Wavelight> all the best
[01:11] <blackshirt> code_blue... I don't think so..thats way for emmergency lock ups.. I don't know that was logged or not
[01:12] <aguitel_> how install java
[01:12] <zykotick9> !java | aguitel_
[01:12] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: my setup is: JeOS server (12.04 now) with virtualbox running, i have one vm (pfsense) that is used as my router/firewall.  so needless to say, it sucks when this server crashes..i have to bring it back up and google..:)
[01:15] <Code_Bleu> im not running anything else that i can think of on the ubuntu host server..just whatever is needed for vbox.  This is why i said earlier, that nothing should have changed...if this is up and my router is working, i dont mess with it.
[01:15] <blackshirt> code_blue, maybe thats related some hardware interupt issues .. You should analyze them
[01:16] <Floorduck> I had installed linux on the laptop I am about to return. Using a liveCD of lubuntu, I just deleted the old linux partitions. When I send it back, will it still be clear enough that linux had been installed for them to notice?
[01:17] <Floorduck> Should I create and format this newly freed space and then delete the new partition?
[01:18] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: what do you mean? what is related to hardware interupt issues?
[01:18] <examancer> Floorduck: Most manufacturers will not refuse returns or warranty service because you messed with the OS
[01:18] <|Anthony|> what is the dev chan?
[01:19] <Floorduck> alrighty, I'd just like to make sure
[01:19] <blackshirt> code_blue, i mean, maybe some hardware issue that couldn'tt handle correctly..i don't exactly
[01:19] <Floorduck> and still, I'd be curious to know the answer just out of curiosity :)
[01:19] <blackshirt> i dont know exactly
[01:19] <examancer> Floorduck: but, they have no reason to try and examine what you put on it. Removing the partitions will be sufficient to make it way more effort to find out than they would ever exert.
[01:19] <Floorduck> okay, I have a new problem :P
[01:19] <Floorduck> So I just deleted the partitions and I've rebooted...
[01:20] <Floorduck> It says: "error: no such partition"
[01:20] <examancer> As someone who's worked for a computer manufacturer and done service work, I guarantee they are going to re-image it anyways.
[01:20] <PatrickJameson> blackshirt: it was owned by me. is that a good thing?
[01:21] <Floorduck> "grub rescue>"
[01:21] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: i know i could just start replacing stuff ( video card, nic's, mem...etc, but 1. i dont have extra of everything, 2. that would be a pain to do.  I just wished i had some logs or something that pointed me to an area first
[01:22] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: what about cpu? is there any recommendations on testing if the cpu is going bad?  Ive always been under the impression that cpus either work or they dont though
[01:24] <blackshirt> code_blue, what machine are you using? Xb6?
[01:24] <blackshirt> i mean x86
[01:24] <examancer> Code_Bleu: They can have various errata that either do or do not affect accuracy, performance, heat, etc.
[01:25] <Code_Bleu> yes, x86 hp d530 cmt
[01:25] <Code_Bleu> examancer: true
[01:25] <examancer> Code_Bleu: you just need to use process of elimination. Move the CPU to another computer if you can find one that is the same socket. Test the RAM, test using a new Heatsink/Fan, or maybe just the grease/adhesive
[01:26] <blackshirt> code_blue, is that lock ups too on single mode user?
[01:26] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: yes
[01:26] <examancer> if the CPU doesn't act up in another computer, its probably not the CPU
[01:27] <Code_Bleu> examancer: i dont have the extra equip. to test. im pretty sure its not over heating too.  ram has been tested for a few min with memtest
[01:27] <blackshirt> code_blue... You should analyze your log recorded,
[01:27] <examancer> Floorduck: so you still have GRUB on your master boot record it looks like?
[01:28] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: i will again, but i have looked at all of them and searched for panic, kernel...etc and have found nothing...i will keep looking though
[01:28] <blackshirt> i have experiences with some issues like yours,but maybe thats was different
[01:28] <examancer> Code_Bleu: I'd recommend letting the memtest do at least 1 complete test cycle
[01:29] <examancer> I've had bad RAM that didn't show errors in memtest until near the end of a test cycle
[01:29] <Floorduck> I guess so... what should I do?
[01:29] <examancer> so the first 10 minutes everything would be fine, but then closer to the end it would fail
[01:29] <blackshirt> code_blue... And check your all cable, disk, memory, etc..and everything on place correctly
[01:29] <netito> QUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL
[01:29] <ampd> anyone using awesome wm?
[01:29] <Code_Bleu> examancer: ok.  will do.  in the past though..ever time i have seen bad mem. it detects it right away.
[01:29] <examancer> yeah, i've seen that too
[01:30] <ezio> i don't want to touch the thing .. unless i have gloves on .. but my friend wants to know if you can put ubuntu on a mac .. 3 people in my class claim they googled it to no avail ... i'm just here to show them how to use irc
[01:30] <Code_Bleu> blackshirt: will do, i have not taken it all apart yet, but the next time it crashes i will reseat everything.
[01:30] <Code_Bleu> if you see me disconnect from this channel, its because it crashed :)
[01:30] <ezio> you crashed
[01:31] <ezio> so ... is installing ubuntu on a mac a thing that you can do?
[01:31] <ezio> my answer was
[01:32] <ezio> step 1.
[01:32] <ezio> remove the hard drive
[01:32] <wubino> anyone know why ubuntu's power management fails or would fail to wake up after a sleep or hibernate event?
[01:32] <ezio> step 2.
[01:32] <ezio> discard the mac
[01:32] <FloodBot1> ezio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <wubino> Using an AMD Phenom 9750 chip
[01:32] <ezio> floodBot1, let's cuddle
[01:33] <wubino> I have not been able to find any posts via google on this except for people have posted bug reports about it since Ubuntu 11.04
[01:33] <sgo11> hi, with 12.04.1 liveusb and persistent storage, which package should I install for supporting Broadcom wireless card driver? It shows wireless firmware is not installed error. thanks.
[01:34] <craigbass1976> ezio, you still here?  I'm currentl;y running xubuntu on a ppc mac.  Is that what you're after?
[01:34] <Floorduck> examancer: any idea about how I could fix my problem? the windows partition is still there, but it's not booting from ti..
[01:34] <mrb0nk> hi
[01:34] <ezio> craigbass1976, no an intel mac
[01:34] <mrb0nk> hi
[01:34] <craigbass1976> ezio, that should be even easier then.
[01:34] <mrb0nk> hi
[01:34] <examancer> Code_Bleu: what is your computer doing? I had one that was random restarting/segfaulting. That was the instance where I memtested a few times and didn't see any errors after a while so I didn't finish. The RAM turned out to be bad.
[01:34] <|Anthony|> Floorduck, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:35] <examancer> also had a video card that caused similar symptoms though, so not saying its for sure RAM
[01:35] <ezio> craigbass1976, how'd you do it, buds?
[01:35] <wizaqua> let's go #ubuntu .
[01:35] <examancer> Floorduck: you have grub on your MBR
[01:35] <wizaqua> ##math is  inching ahead of you interms of  sheer busyness
[01:35] <Floorduck> Thanks.
[01:36] <craigbass1976> I grabbed the ppc version of lubuntu and off I went.  I threw xfce on because I like it better.  There are "wake up after sleeping" problems sometimes, but now worse than my own getting out of bed.  Actually, my problem is every morning; the laptop's record is much better than that.
[01:36] <Code_Bleu> examancer: it is randomly locking up.  screen goes black..monitor led blinks..and sometimes the scroll lock and caps lock led lights blink on keyboard....and once or twice i did see a kernel panic screen
[01:37] <ezio> craigbass1976, everyone has toi issue
[01:37] <ezio> s
[01:37] <craigbass1976> ezio, toi?
[01:37] <ezio> i've never had a box that didn't have toi issues
[01:37] <ezio> craigbass1976, tux on ice
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> Floorduck, Do you have a recovery or install disc for the windows?
[01:38] <Code_Bleu> examancer: i have checked my nic's too..no tx or rx errors..the only other thing i was thinking it might be is the video card...but i dont know how to verify that
[01:38] <examancer> Floorduck: looks like you can use lilo to re-write the MBR
[01:38] <examancer> Floorduck: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fix-corrupted-windows-ntfs-filesystem-ubuntu/ ... scroll to Fixing A Corrupt Master Boot Record
[01:38] <craigbass1976> ezio, One thing I hate is no hard drive light.  I can't tell if it's turded out on me, or if it's doing something.  THere's a loud fan, so I can't hear the drive running over it.
[01:39] <examancer> Code_Bleu: only sure way is process of elimination... coming up with ways to try and rule out various peices of hardware
[01:39] <examancer> if you have two hard drives, for instance, unplug one for a while and run the computer hard (maybe a benchmark)... see if the behavior persists
[01:39] <examancer> then do the same with the other drive
[01:39] <Code_Bleu> examancer: thats what i was afraid of
[01:40] <examancer> (sometimes bad hard drives can cause stability problems too)
[01:41] <zykotick9> examancer: isn't Code_Bleu using a vm?  kinda rules out hardware if host didn't crash.
[01:41] <Code_Bleu> zykotick9: it is the host that is crashing
[01:42] <Code_Bleu> zykotick9: it just so happens the vm im running on the host is my router (pfsense)
[01:43] <ezio> anyone got an intel mac running ubuntu?
[01:43] <WeThePeople> i
[01:43] <WeThePeople> h
[01:44] <WeThePeople> ezio, ask your question
[01:44] <ezio> WeThePeople, anyone here got ubuntu on a mac
[01:45] <Floorduck> Is there any way to get boot-repair without using terminal? I can't get the commands listed on the site to work
[01:45] <WeThePeople> ezio, doesnt make a diff, just ask
[01:45] <CellTech> Is there a quick way to check the cpu temp just through terminal? Without having to install anything?
[01:46] <Logos01> Greetings! What's the command to reload one's iptables rules if one ran iptables --flush ? ( Ubuntu 12.04 )
[01:47] <WeThePeople> logos01, prob redo them
[01:47] <Logos01> None of the following achieve that effect:  service ufw restart || stop ufw ; start ufw
[01:47] <Logos01> WeThePeople: What does that even mean?
[01:47] <Logos01> I'm talking about the default iptables rules that load at boot.
[01:47] <|Anthony|> is udev going to be forked/maintained for/by *buntu since it has been merged into systemd?  Reloading of firewall settings?
[01:50] <blackshirt> PatricJameson, try to login on single user
[01:50] <OerHeks> ezio, running ubuntu on your intel mac is possible, according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[01:50] <PatrickJameson> on single user?
[01:51] <WeThePeople> derheks, too lte..lol
[01:51] <WeThePeople> late
[01:52] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: Recent Ubuntu versions don't really use Xorg.conf. They use different setups which to be honest I'm not 100% familiar with. But you *COULD* use some conditional xrandr settings in your ~/.profile to achieve the effect you're after.
[01:52] <Logos01> (That's hackish and not a genuine solution but it would get the job done.)
[01:54] <PatrickJameson> Logos01: oh interesting
[01:54] <Logos01> This is going to be another one of those times when I just walk away from this channel in utter disgust, I guess. Is there seriously nobody in here familiar with how the firewall works in 12.04 ?
[01:54]  * PatrickJameson will try
[01:54] <Floorduck> Examancer, the repair didnt work. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1215993/
[01:54] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: Godspeed, young paduwan!
[01:55] <OerHeks> Logos01, all you need is a gui for ufw, like Gufw
[01:55] <WeThePeople> logos01, its slow tonight
[01:55] <Logos01> OerHeks: It's a headless machine.
[01:55] <Logos01> No GUI.
[01:55] <Logos01> It's going to stay that way.
[01:55] <Logos01> WeThePeople: Yeah I guess they all are.
[01:56] <leeping> Hi there, anyone know of a channel where I can ask about assembling a PC?
[01:56] <WeThePeople> #HARDWARE
[01:56] <WeThePeople> #hardware
[01:56] <OerHeks> Logos01, oke, they you can edit the iptables manually > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[01:57] <examancer> Floorduck: Sorry, I'm not an expert on MBR stuff. There should be a way to switch it to boot windows again
[01:57] <examancer> or, you can always re-install grub and just use that to boot windows
[01:57] <Floorduck> But I want to send it back for replacement; the screen is faulty :(
[01:57] <examancer> if you configure grub to never show the menu and always start windows no one would notice
[01:58] <examancer> Floorduck: what manufacturer?
[01:58] <Floorduck> MSI
[01:58] <Logos01> OerHeks: That again is not what I'm asking about.
[01:59] <Logos01> OerHeks: Again, my query was simple: "How does one reload the iptables rules that are loaded at boot?"
[01:59] <examancer> Floorduck: what model?
[01:59] <Logos01> Telling me how to manually edit my firewall rules achieves no movement towards that goal.
[01:59] <Logos01> The link you provided also provides no movement towards that goal.
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> Floorduck, bootrepair wont fix a MS boot use the lilo link given you.
[02:01] <NiteRain> Logos01: did you find your answer?
[02:01] <goddard> how can i send a file over my current ssh connection
[02:01] <goddard> terminal session
[02:02] <jrib> Logos01: it depends on how you loaded the rules in the first place
[02:02] <examancer> goddard: is there some reason you can't start another ssh session so you can scp?
[02:02] <rob_p> Logos01: So, "service ufw restart" doesn't accomplish what you want?
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> Floorduck, Here is a pastebin of using lilo. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216002/
[02:03] <WACOMalt> Is the wine version in the repositories x64 compatible? Like for 64bit windows programs.
[02:03] <NiteRain> Logos01: if you had your rules set, you could have backed them up with the iptables-save command
[02:03] <Logos01> rob_p: No it does not.
[02:03] <Logos01> Bloody hell.
[02:03] <Floorduck> um
[02:03] <Floorduck> MSI X Series X460DX-423US
[02:03] <Floorduck> Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030
[02:03] <WeThePeople> logos01, are there any iptable rules loaded at boot? <ayecee> WeThePeople: no
[02:03] <Logos01> WeThePeople: Yes.
[02:03] <Floorduck> Whoops, that's my wireless card. The first thing is the laptop model.
[02:03] <Logos01> Most all of what's in /etc/ufw/*
[02:04] <Logos01> But service ufw restart is loading nothing.
[02:04] <Logos01> So there has to be some other way to make that happen.
[02:04] <Logos01> What is it?
[02:04] <rob_p> Logos01: Well, it seems to work here...
[02:04] <examancer> Floorduck: just curious.  Good video card though.
[02:05] <Logos01> rob_p: And what is "it" that you're doing? What state is your iptables ruleset in when you do "it"?
[02:05] <NiteRain> Logos01: did you try: sudo ufw enable, and then try restarting?
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:05] <FloodBot1> tdlguiinstall: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <Logos01> I am not going to reboot my computer just to restart the firewall.
[02:05] <Logos01> That is absolutely and completely insane.
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:05] <FloodBot1> tdlguiinstall: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:06] <goddard> examancer: no i just figured there was an easier way
[02:06] <Logos01> Yes, my ufw instance was working before I ran "iptables --flush"
[02:06] <Floorduck> Ugly as hell? Aww... I don't mind it. What's wrong with her :P
[02:06] <tdlguiinstall> `
[02:06] <tdlguiinstall> `
[02:06] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:06] <tdlguiinstall> .
[02:06] <FloodBot1> tdlguiinstall: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <ow> !ops
[02:06] <jrib> ow: he's gone
[02:06] <examancer> goddard: the easiest way is good ole scp
[02:06] <ow> jrib: He reconnected, and I suspected that the floodbots were just going to unquiet him again, which...
[02:06] <ow> ty Jordan_U
[02:07] <Logos01> "service ufw enable" --> "The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart
[02:07] <jrib> ow: yes, I missed that.  thanks
[02:07] <Logos01> job, but enable is not supported for Upstart jobs"
[02:07] <Logos01> So no that's not going to work either.
[02:07] <Logos01> Phenomenal.
[02:07] <NiteRain> oh upstart
[02:07] <OerHeks> Logos01, depends on where you stored a copy of your iptable rules.
[02:07] <Logos01> OerHeks: /etc/ufw
[02:07] <jrib> Logos01: you probably mean "sudo ufw enable"
[02:07] <Logos01> jrib: I'm not the one who suggested using "service ufw enable"
[02:07] <jakepetroules> hey does anyone know why i have to run apt-get update && apt-get install openjdk-7-jre TWICE to get it to install? if i only do it once it says i have unmet dependencies
[02:07] <jrib> Logos01: who was?
[02:08] <examancer> scp user@source-host.com:Documents/journal.txt ~/destination/jounrnal.txt
[02:08] <Logos01> 19:05 < NiteRain> Logos01: did you try: sudo ufw enable, and then try restarting?
[02:08] <Logos01> (I have 19:08)
[02:08] <bkerensa> jakepetroules: you dont
[02:08] <jrib> Logos01: yes... "sudo", not "service"
[02:08] <bkerensa> jakepetroules: just sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[02:09] <Logos01> Ahh. Well that's just mud on my face right there.
[02:09] <rotham> hey.. whats an image viewer i can use to open 20mb jpegs without freezing (the default seems to freeze.. shotwell freezes too)
[02:09] <Logos01> but again I'm not going to reboot my computer just for something like that.
[02:09] <jakepetroules> bkerensa: but that doesn't work, i get an unmet dependencies error
[02:09] <Logos01> rotham: gwenview is reliable for me.
[02:09] <WACOMalt> Can anyone tell me if the wine package in the repos is x64 compatible? like for 64 bit windows programs?
[02:09] <jrib> Logos01: I think he just meant restart the service after enabling ufw
[02:09] <bkerensa> jakepetroules: that is bizarre it should install the dependencies to
[02:09] <bkerensa> file a bug against the package
[02:10] <jakepetroules> i think it happens with java6 also
[02:10] <rotham> Logos01: thanks
[02:10] <goddard> examancer: cool thanks bro
[02:10] <jakepetroules> that is, openjdk-6-jre
[02:10] <PatrickJameson> Logos01: osnap that will work with xrandr -s (0|1) with my metamodes configured in my xorg config
[02:10] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: :D  Figured it would.
[02:10] <PatrickJameson> now I just need to figure out two things
[02:10] <WeThePeople> rotham, gimp may due the trick too
[02:11] <bkerensa> jakepetroules: what release are you running?
[02:11] <Logos01> "two things" ?
[02:11] <PatrickJameson> how to tell if the screen is connected and how to stop the screen from going black when I shut my laptop
[02:11] <jakepetroules> 12.04.1, the latest
[02:11] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: the screen going black is an advanced power control setting.
[02:11] <PatrickJameson> I tried setting that
[02:11] <PatrickJameson> many have complained that it isn't working
[02:12] <Logos01> As to how to tell if the screen is connected...
[02:12] <Logos01> You'll have to do a conditional test on the number of screens via xrandr.
[02:12] <jrib> Logos01: fwiw, ufw enable; iptables -F; ufw disable; ufw enable, seems to restore the ufw rules fine...
[02:12] <jakepetroules> bkerensa: oh and its ubuntu server edition. the one on amazon ec2
[02:12] <PatrickJameson> yup, just need to figure that out. I'm sure its in this documentation somewhere
[02:12] <bkerensa> jakepetroules: I would file a bug so a developer can have a look
[02:13] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: [ "$(xrandr | grep '^Screen 1') != "" ]
[02:13] <jakepetroules> bkerensa: ok where do i file
[02:13] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: [ "$(xrandr | grep '^Screen 1')" != "" ] rather
[02:13] <PatrickJameson> Logos01: yup, I figured that would be an option
[02:13] <jrib> Logos01: and so does "iptables -F; service restart ufw" (assuming ufw is enabled)
[02:13] <Logos01> That is a test statement that checks the output of the xrandr command for the presence of a line that begins with the text, 'Screen 1'
[02:13] <PatrickJameson> the screen going black is a bit annoying
[02:13] <Logos01> jrib: No, that last didn't.
[02:14] <NiteRain> Logos01: sudo ufw status
[02:14] <Logos01> It
[02:14] <Logos01> It's enabled.
[02:14] <NiteRain> is it enabled?
[02:14] <jrib> Logos01: well did my first suggestion work?  If not then you need to be pastebinning more info
[02:14] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: Might possibly be a screensaver. You wouldn't by any chance be using LXDE?
[02:14] <Logos01> jrib: ufw enable brought up the rules yes.
[02:15] <PatrickJameson> nope
[02:15]  * Logos01 is in too many windows -- did I not state this?
[02:15] <Logos01> My apologies.
[02:15] <Floorduck> examancer: thanks for the help; it worked... I love you.
[02:15] <examancer> glad i could find a blog post for you :-P
[02:16] <Floorduck> shush.
[02:16] <rob_p> Logos01: When I run, "service ufw start/restart" it does indeed establish/reestablish the default ruleset as configured in the ufw configs. However, if you want to remove the ruleset, it seems you still have to do it manually (ie. sudo iptables -F and sudo iptables -t nat -F)
[02:16] <Floorduck> Don't add insult to my implied injury :P
[02:16] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: "xset dpms force off" <-- seen that before?
[02:17] <Logos01> rob_p: No, it actually honestly totally really doesn't.
[02:17] <Logos01> "service ufw restart" did nothing the nine times I ran it.
[02:17] <Floorduck> Okay, maybe I could have googled it... but I had more faith in you people than I do in my own ability to think critically... so :P
[02:17] <Logos01> Nor did "stop ufw ; start ufw"
[02:17] <Logos01> "ufw enable" however *did*
[02:17] <PatrickJameson> Logos01: erm, don't believe so. where would I have?
[02:17] <examancer> oh, i just meant I didn't do much to help really, just pointed you in a direction
[02:17] <Logos01> I find this extremely obnoxious.
[02:17] <examancer> didn't mean as insult
[02:17] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: Try running it, just for shits and grins.
[02:17] <Logos01> (It disables the xset powersaving mode.)
[02:18] <cappicard> heya. when i try running apt-get, I'm getting Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix>,  Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
[02:18] <Logos01> http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html
[02:18] <PatrickJameson> Logos01: didn't work.
[02:18] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: Was worth a shot.
[02:18] <PatrickJameson> mhm
[02:18] <cappicard> ImportError: No module named site
[02:18] <Logos01> cappicard: reload your bashrc profile. Something's pretty screwy there.
[02:18] <jrib> cappicard: pastebin full command and full output
[02:19] <cappicard> http://pastebin.com/index/ReTeNe0A
[02:20] <|Anthony|> udev and consolekit have been merged into systemd. What is Ubuntu going to replace these depreciated tools with?
[02:20] <Vermicelli> "spacepiratesandzombies: Depends: spacepiratesandzombies-bin but it is a virtual package"
[02:20] <Vermicelli> What can I do about this?
[02:20] <ng0n> pp
[02:20] <ng0n> re
[02:21] <jrib> Vermicelli: ask the provider of "spacepiratesandzombies"
[02:21] <Vermicelli> I get the same for every one fo the new humble bundle titles.
[02:21] <Floorduck> I have one other problem with which you cannot help me... unfortunately :(
[02:22] <Floorduck> I believe I've misplaced the windows vista home premium disk that came with my laptop... I've got to find that -_-
[02:22] <PatrickJameson> Logos01: lololo
[02:22] <convivial> hi, does server come with desktop ui?
[02:22] <PatrickJameson> when I shut the screen of my laptop everything blanks out
[02:22] <cappicard> hrmm... i get the same bloody thing when I just type python
[02:22] <jrib> convivial: not installed by default, but you can install any you want from the repository
[02:22] <zykotick9> convivial: gui?  not by default (and it shouldn't)
[02:22] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: Okay?
[02:22] <cappicard> even as root!
[02:22] <PatrickJameson> to get the external screen on all I had to do was move my mouse
[02:22] <Logos01> Oh.
[02:23] <PatrickJameson> :P
[02:23] <Logos01> well that's interesting.
[02:23] <Logos01> Quirky even.
[02:23] <PatrickJameson> it is indeed
[02:23] <jrib> cappicard: « which python » and « apt-cache policy software-center » on pastebin
[02:23] <PatrickJameson> no idea why that is a feature, but I'll take it
[02:23] <Logos01> PatrickJameson: More likely more like a limitation than a feature.
[02:23] <Logos01> But as long as you can make it work it's all good.
[02:23] <PatrickJameson> yup.
[02:23] <sprinklekitten> I was experiencing problems with a version of mac os x I reinstalled on an old macbook and so I decided to try out Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I want to re-install mac osx but the install discs continue to fail. I downloaded a .dmg file and want to create a bootable usb drive. Any suggestions on the best method to do this?
[02:24] <Richard_Cavell> I'm on 10.04 and I see there's a Linux kernel update.  Is it normal to have updates 2 years after the release of the distro?
[02:24] <zykotick9> Richard_Cavell: no.  new bugs are discovered.
[02:24] <Richard_Cavell> So does 10.04 have the leading edge kernel or is it some way behind?
[02:24] <jrib> Richard_Cavell: 10.04 is supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 years on the server.  If there are security issues for supported packages, then there will be an update (see !sru for details)
[02:25] <cappicard> http://pastebin.com/9GNcEZe6
[02:25] <|Anthony|> Richard_Cavell, no 10.04 is on a 2.6 kernel
[02:25] <Richard_Cavell> 2.6.32-43-generic according to update manager
[02:25] <ryanCH_> I've been searching google for a while looking for Canon MP499 printers drivers for linux, but I haven't found one for that model only MP495.. any ideas?
[02:25] <|Anthony|> 3.x is current
[02:25] <zykotick9> Richard_Cavell: way behind (with that interpretation).  i still run a 2.6.32 happily ;)
[02:26] <PatrickJameson> Logos01: thanks for your help
[02:26] <PatrickJameson> I'm out
[02:26] <Logos01> :D
[02:26] <bkerensa> jakepetroules: in terminal do "ubuntu bug PACKAGENAME"
[02:26]  * PatrickJameson flys away
[02:27] <|Anthony|> udev and consolekit have been merged into systemd. What is Ubuntu going to replace these depreciated and system vital tools with?
[02:27] <|Anthony|> anyone?
[02:27] <jrib> cappicard: and you have no idea what could have prompted these python issues?
[02:27] <Richard_Cavell> I'm back after a reboot
[02:27] <cappicard> I do not
[02:27] <Richard_Cavell> It's just a bit annoying to have a kernel update because I'm virtualizing and I need to reinstall guest additions
[02:28] <jrib> cappicard: pastebin « env »
[02:28] <jrib> Richard_Cavell: read the changelog and see if it's worth it in your case then
[02:28] <|Anthony|> with 2.6.x it will more than likely be security related
[02:30] <cappicard> brb.
[02:32] <minetruly> Hi! This is my first time using IRC. I'm considering switching to Ubuntu. I'm willing to lean computer programming. If you don't mind talking to a total newbie, do any of you have words of wisdom for me?
[02:33] <blackshirt> minetruly: yes, welcome to ubuntu channel...
[02:33] <minetruly> Thank you, blackshirt.
[02:33] <gogeta> minetruly: programing for linux = easy to port to windows
[02:34] <blackshirt> minetruly: if you have problems related to your ubuntu, you can just ask here, or maybe you want to help someone with trouble
[02:34] <gogeta> minetruly: the other way around can be diffcult
[02:34] <sprinklekitten> This channel seems too crowded
[02:34] <gogeta> sprinklekitten: lol
[02:34] <minetruly> What does "port" mean? (Sorry, I'm such a beginner! I promise I learn quickly.)
[02:35] <mangdood_> I want to install software from the source code and I remember using some software to add it to the package management system. Is this recommended and any idea what it might be called?
[02:35] <crimsonmane> you do not need to learn programming in order to use Linux.
[02:35] <sprinklekitten> I don't even think anyone noticed my question from earlier. I have literally been staring at this feed for 10 mins
[02:35] <blackshirt> sprinklekitten: what you mean with too crowded...
[02:35] <WeThePeople> minetruly, port for networking in and out of the computer
[02:35] <minetruly> What if it's not compatible with something i want to use, or doesn't run well enough with my computer's hardware?
[02:35] <cappicard> http://pastebin.com/w8p4n1Qc
[02:35] <mangdood_> sprinklekitten: Often people don't really know the answer
[02:35] <minetruly> WeThePeople, thank you, I understand.
[02:35] <blackshirt> sprinklekitten: I'm just sitting here for a seconds...
[02:35] <WeThePeople> minetruly, their are over 65000 ports on the computer
[02:35] <jrib> !compile | mangdood_
[02:36] <jrib> mangdood_: probably checkinstall, but it's better to build (or find) a proper package
[02:36] <minetruly> 65000? Why so many? I get the basics like your email goes out one port, or you could specify another....
[02:36] <crimsonmane> WeThePeople: PORT was used not in that sense. it was used to mean "convert to run on another platform"
[02:36] <mangdood_> jrib: Yeah, but I need a software package for a course and it's not offered in the repos
[02:36] <crimsonmane> minetruly: please don't let these people confuse you. there is no reason to learn programming to use linux.
[02:37] <WeThePeople> ok??
[02:37] <WeThePeople> whatever
[02:37] <sprinklekitten> well, I don't want to spam everyone with the same. should I continue to wait
[02:37] <gogeta> crimsonmane: tought he was referring to using linux as his platform
[02:37] <sprinklekitten> same question*
[02:37] <blackshirt> sprinklekitten: what is your problem ?
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> sprinklekitten: whats up?
[02:37] <jrib> sprinklekitten: you should just repeat your question ~10 minutes instead of asking if it's been seen
[02:37] <minetruly> Thanks crimsonmane. It'll be nice to use it without hassle. But, I really am planning on learning how to program, and dealing with Linux would be as good a place to start as any.
[02:37] <crimsonmane> gogeta: no, someone else said "port" to him as in "programming on linux = easy port to windows"
[02:37] <minetruly> I'd love to be able to tweak things.
[02:38] <sprinklekitten> I was experiencing problems with a version of mac os x I reinstalled on an old macbook and so I decided to try out Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I want to re-install mac osx but the install discs continue to fail. I downloaded a .dmg file and want to create a bootable usb drive. Any suggestions on the best method to do this?
[02:38] <gogeta> crimsonmane: i did
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> sprinklekitten: if you are having issues with mac installation then you should ask in #apple or #macos
[02:38] <crimsonmane> gogeta: in that sense, "port" does not refer to what WeThePeople was defining.
[02:38] <jrib> sprinklekitten: well part of the problem is that it's not clear how that is even an ubuntu question...
[02:38] <gogeta> crimsonmane: lol no
[02:38] <jagginess> linux on mac?
[02:38] <minetruly> Also, I'm done tolerating the glitches Windows gives me.  Is there a program in ubuntu that I can use to format a disc image and place on a usb drive
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: ports in what sense?
[02:40] <jagginess> sprinklekitten, linux on mac?
[02:40] <crimsonmane> minetruly: there isn't any significance you need to concern yourself with. if you wanna learn linux you need to install it and read the commands manual.
[02:40] <minetruly> What are Ubuntu's biggest downfalls?
[02:40] <sprinklekitten> Linux
[02:40] <gogeta> minetruly: if you mean can you dig into the system and find the problem of course
[02:40] <jagginess> minetruly, biggest downfalls is not installing it
[02:40] <minetruly> Haha
[02:40] <WeThePeople> minetruly, everything is free
[02:40] <jrib> minetruly: this channel is really meant for technical support, could you please ask your more general questions in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:41] <jagginess> minetruly, biggest downfall, is most kids would never donate because they're so dam selfish
[02:41] <xangua> !ot | minetruly i'm sure everyone will be glad if you join the offtopic :)
[02:41] <minetruly> True. I just want to be prepared when things go wrong.
[02:41] <crimsonmane> minetruly: put your big boy pants on and dive in head first.
[02:41] <minetruly> Recognize common problems as common problems and not some weird thing that's specific to my hardware
[02:42] <jagginess> sprinklekitten, refit, you'll need that on mac to get linux to boot
[02:42] <minetruly> Crimson, you are by far giving the best advice.
[02:42] <crimsonmane> You're going to have huge headaches while you learn linux. I promise you that.
[02:42] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:42] <minetruly> OK, good to know that.
[02:42] <jagginess> sprinklekitten, they'res a newer one than refit.. i forget the name, it shouldbe on wikipedia
[02:43] <sprinklekitten> Jagginess, thanks. i will check it out
[02:43] <gogeta> minetruly: with any new thing it will have a lering curve but distros like ubuntu try to make it as painless as possable.
[02:43] <Nautilus> does this seem like appropriate directions for installing nomachine (aka NX)?  http://www.humans-enabled.com/2012/04/how-to-install-freenx-server-on-ubuntu.html
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> sprinklekitten: unetbootin may do it, you may need a mac
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> sprinklekitten: macs a re a dumb system and don't play well with others
[02:44] <minetruly> I am indeed going to dive in. Any big, obvious tips for a beginner like me? And what are the biggest problems I'm likely to encounter upfront?
[02:44] <jrib> minetruly: please move your discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:44] <gogeta> minetruly: with any luck none
[02:44] <crimsonmane> minetruly: nope. you should come here tho when you have troubles.
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: all OSes can and do go wrong
[02:44] <minetruly> Does it... does it have less troubles than Windows?
[02:45] <crimsonmane> depends on how you look at it.
[02:45] <crimsonmane> it has "different" troubles than windows
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: depends on how you use it
[02:45] <minetruly> I guess my biggest concern is whether it will use my quad core and my touchscreen and such optimally.
[02:45] <billc> where do u get the terminal commands
[02:45] <jagginess> sprinklekitten, it's called refind->http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[02:45] <sprinklekitten> I hate my old macbook and love ubuntu but I need mac osx for certain programs I need. Don't worry though. I will be booting Ubuntu from a disc after I have osx reinstalled on my HD
[02:45] <gogeta> minetruly: good chance the tuchscreen will be a issue
[02:45] <minetruly> Can you highlight some of its troubles?
[02:45] <crimsonmane> no
[02:46] <jagginess> sprinklekitten, you can shrink the hfs+ with the osx installer media. then use gparted live cd to add ext4+swap
[02:46] <crimsonmane> I'm sorry I really want you to try linux, but the sales and customer service department is that way. this is tech support.
[02:46] <minetruly> Sprinklekitten, I've seen a Macbook boot Ubuntu, you can dual boot from the same hard drive, I think.
[02:46] <crimsonmane> ()i'm kidding, of course()
[02:46] <jagginess> sprinklekitten, if it's ppc, then i'm not sure if refind/refit support that.
[02:47]  * jagginess can tripleboot a macbook with refit/refind
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: the desktop OS can manage up to 32 cores if memory serves. Quad core isn't anything fancy
[02:47] <sprinklekitten> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 right now. I'm just trying to reinstall OSX without the discs haha
[02:47] <gogeta> minetruly: apples tend to be a bit tempermental when it comes to getting linux up and running
[02:47] <minetruly> Crimson, you won't scare me away. I'm going to install it. I'm just asking so I have a heads up. I want a general feel for the OS, and while I can get it by just downloading the thing, why not ask some experts for their take on it?
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: the touch screen may be an issue but it depends on the controller for it. I suggest you boot a liveCD OS and test there, it won't modify your installed OS
[02:48] <jagginess> sprinklekitten, ya.. you probably can boot snowleopard off usb.. but i know mountain lion can.. the osx DiskUTility.. but this is goind off topic..
[02:48] <minetruly> Can't Quad core allow you to run more applications at once? I'm one of those people who has a dozen applications open and 200 tabs in Firefox.
[02:48] <mwmnj> ...
[02:48] <crimsonmane> my "expert" opinion will get me booted from chat here, minetruly.
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: yes, you'll also need RAM to hold the running apps, not just raw CPU speed
[02:49] <minetruly> I have 8 gigs.
[02:49] <sprinklekitten> jagginess, Thanks for your help. I will make my way to #apple to see if they can help me
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: thats more than enough for Ubuntu, the libs are reused so RAM use is low
[02:49] <minetruly> Isn't it not so much the speed, and more that the multiple processors allow more processes to run at the same time?
[02:50] <gogeta> minetruly: A multi-core processor is a single computing component with two or more independent actual central processing units
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: I run a full desktop and use less than 400Mb
[02:50] <crimsonmane> running many apps = 80% ram, 20% cpu
[02:50] <gogeta> minetruly: and you wanna program
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: the RAM holds the processes as they run, so more RAM means more processes, CPU just means they will run smoother. CPU doesn't determine how many concurrent apps you can run
[02:51] <minetruly> gogeta: yes, but I'm not going to kid myself into thinking I can do anything well so soon.
[02:51] <jrib> guys, this is #ubuntu, not computing 101...
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: even if you fill the RAM, you wil start to use swap space (slower) and you can run even more. With 8Gb I doubt you will touch swap
[02:53] <minetruly> ActionParsnip: What are the other factors? My 2010 PC has more RAM than my 2007 MacBook, but the Windows machine has never once run faster than my Mac.
[02:53] <xangua> !ot | minetruly crimsonmane gogeta ActionParsnip
[02:53] <jrib> minetruly: this is your last warning to move this general discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.  I'll have to ban you if you keep ignoring it...
[02:53] <minetruly> ubottu: the illustration with Mac allows me to understand an Ubuntu related question
[02:53] <crimsonmane> FYI i don't really care for the rules. If pre-buy questiones aren't Ubuntu support, then I don't know what is.
[02:54] <ChibaPet> Hey all. An odd request, but I wonder if someone with a launchpad account could leave a message on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.4/+bug/944321  ?   The message would consist of "on Debian, libc6-dev-i386 fixes this - perhaps there's something similar available for you."
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> minetruly: its a different OS all together so the resources will be used differently
[02:54] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, minetruly lets move on
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: deal
[02:54] <minetruly> OK.
[02:54] <minetruly> Thanks for your help.
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> is it bad I kinda knew s/he also owned a Mac ;)
[02:55] <FooFlyer> hi guys, i have a question, iḿ really new in ubuntu, iḿ trying to install apache http server, but i dont know which is the best place to place my folder installation
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> FooFlyer: the defaults will be fine
[02:56] <bazhang> FooFlyer, use the package manager, it will do it for you
[02:56] <FooFlyer> the deafults?? which??
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> FooFlyer: use the package manager and it will install all you need
[02:56] <FooFlyer> well ive downloaded the tar version
[02:57] <FooFlyer> i would like to install from the tar version
[02:57] <ChibaPet> FooFlyer: The Debian (and hence Ubuntu) package manager has a very nice way to manage Apache site configurations. You want to learn it and use it. Install the package using your package manager and dig into what it installs.
[02:57] <ChibaPet> FooFlyer: You don't want the tar version.
[02:57] <ChibaPet> FooFlyer: Once you've installed the packaged version, dpkg -L apache-package-name and you'll see where to look.
[02:58] <ChibaPet> FooFlyer: The big win using the packaged version is that you'll get security updates more easily, which is absolutely critical for a web server.
[02:58] <ns_nazri> hi
[02:58] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: you shall own a mac for that
[02:58] <ns_nazri> can all help me
[02:59] <ChibaPet> Anyway, thanks in advance if someone can answer that LaunchPad question for me. Have a good night.
[02:59] <gogeta> !ask | ns_nazri
[02:59] <FooFlyer> ok guys, iĺl keep it in mind
[03:01] <pyrokinetic> hi everyone. recently removed my windows 7 partition and am now running ubuntu 12.04 full time, unfortunately I now have a TON of unallocated space that I can't seem to use, tried running gparted from liveCD and disabled swap so I could expand my extended partition, which worked, but now I just have unallocated space (along with my 'normal' partitions) within my extended partition...a little help would be super.
[03:01] <ns_nazri> i have ubuntu 12.04, ubuntu can support usb 3.0
[03:01] <crimsonmane> pyrokinetic: you need to boot to a LiveCD in order to resize the partition. the drive cannot be mounted when you resize it, which means you can't be using it as your operating system at the time you resize it.
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> pyrokinetic, you can resize all partitions using the same method.
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> a live cd
[03:02] <pyrokinetic> crimsonmane: I did do it from livecd but couldn't move the sliders across.
[03:02] <gogeta> pyrokinetic: using the luve cd you should be able to give linux all the free space
[03:02] <crimsonmane> pyrokinetic: the drive might have been mounted.
[03:03] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, usually it's very hard to work with the extended partition, so people work best only at 4 partitions max (especially true on msdos partition style table-- but this worry doesnt exist on GPT)
[03:03] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, and i mean 4 "primary" partitions..
[03:03] <gogeta> Pryon: if your just running ubuntu delete extended
[03:03] <jagginess> (gpt only uses primary partitions)
[03:04] <gogeta> think he left
[03:04] <jagginess> gogeta, um.. i think he means ubuntu is inside this extended partition
[03:04] <pyrokinetic> hmmm. thanks jagginess. crimsonmane I think it wasn't mounted, it showed up in nautilus down the left hand side but didn't show as 'mounted'...if that makes sense?
[03:04] <gogeta> jagginess: oh thats gonna be a mess
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: Noooo!
[03:04] <crimsonmane> it's not supposed to be mounted
[03:05] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, if you just installed it, and there's no data to backup on the drive, the best /easiest solution-- would be less time to wipe out the drive and start from scratch
[03:05] <crimsonmane> ^
[03:05] <jagginess> (which is like 20 minutes)
[03:05] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: I've used it for a while unfortunately and have quite a bit of stuff. I thought about doing that tho
[03:05] <ns_nazri> ubuntu can support usb 3.0 and thunderbolt
[03:06] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, well if there's alot of unallocated space, it's best to backup the data, and start from scratch :/ unfortunately..
[03:06] <gogeta> pyrokinetic: yea extended is only nedded if you have more then 4 partations
[03:06] <jagginess> ns_nazri, thunderbolt is a kernel.org effort.. so if ubuntu cant do it, no other linux can
[03:06] <Will013> Hi all, brand new to ubuntu, trying to copy a resolv.conf file to /mnt/etc/resolv.conf but the live cd doesn't seem to have the file? or I can't find it.
[03:07] <gogeta> pyrokinetic: its not ment for primary use
[03:07] <ns_nazri> jagginess: usb 3.0
[03:07] <jagginess> gogeta, on msdos styled partitions. ('extended' doest exist on gpt)
[03:07] <pyrokinetic> gogeta: I never remember even selecting extended in the install, it just did it by default when I installed it....from what I remember
[03:08] <jagginess> ns_nazri, usb 3 is supported with the linux kernel, maybe you should ask on #linux.. it's not strictly a ubuntu issue
[03:08] <ns_nazri> ok thank you
[03:08] <jagginess> ns_nazri, ubuntu is more like the user desktop experience.. and if ubuntu has usb3 it's because of kernel.org (and any other linux would have it)
[03:08] <gogeta> pyrokinetic: wow what a pain. if it was on primary this issue would not even happon
[03:09] <Will013> Is there a quick way to determine if i'm missing the resolv.conf file on the live cd?
[03:09] <pyrokinetic> gogeta: what I don't understand is this, I only have linux installed.......no other primary partitions, I just have sda3 and the rest are all logical drives
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> Will013: file /etc/resolv.conf
[03:10] <Nautilus__> unusually quiet here!
[03:10] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, i thought you were talking about unallocated space outside the extended partition
[03:10] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, if its only unallocated data within extended.. you shuold be able to resize the logical partitions within
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> Will013: it will either say ASCII text (or similar) or an error about missing file
[03:11] <Will013> cannot copy /etc/resolv.conf no such file directory
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Will013: /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink
[03:12] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: sorry, I didn't explain very well....I have a screenshot on ubuntuforums.org (and a thread there under general help) ...not sure if you have an account there but it might illustrate my problem a bit better
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Will013: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216067/
[03:12] <Will013> ok, i'm brand new to ubuntu what's a symlink and why is this a problem?
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> Will013: a symlink is like a windows shortcut but a million times more useful
[03:14] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, i dont think i need a screenshot.. you can do-> fdisk -l<enter>
[03:15] <Will013> should you be able to run the internet on a live cd?
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> Will013: if there are drivers and such, then yes
[03:15] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: err, the command works but....nothing happens.
[03:15] <ns_nazri> ubuntu can play games same windows
[03:15] <jagginess> Will013, the live cd can do dhcp if i remember correctly
[03:15] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, maybe use it with sudo
[03:15] <Will013> dhcp?
[03:15] <ns_nazri> help me
[03:16] <jagginess> Will013, a real ubuntu means it's not a live-cd.
[03:16] <jagginess> Will013, use the real thing..
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Will013: what about it, namng random protocols is far from productive
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Will013: icmp?
[03:16]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[03:16] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: where do I paste?
[03:17] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, dunno.. check the topic :/
[03:17] <jagginess> !paste
[03:18] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216073/
[03:19] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, so use gparted live cd and grow /dev/sda5 .. if this is "/" then you'll need to rerun grub-install /dev/sda
[03:19] <jagginess> or use boot rescue iso etc.. if you want the easier way
[03:20] <Rug> when you run a command like: add-apt-repository it doesn't edit the file: /etc/apt/sources.list ....  What does it edit, and/or how do I 'fix' a mistake I entered?
[03:20] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: sda5 is /boot
[03:20] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: sda6 is / and sda7 is /home
[03:20] <delinquentme> in permissions drwxr-xr-x   ...
[03:21] <trism> Rug: it adds a file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[03:21] <delinquentme> d = directory
[03:21] <Rug> trism: thansk
[03:21] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: and my unallocated space also doesn't show up anywhere in the paste, but I'm guessing that's normal? or not..
[03:22] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, well can you move /boot with gparted ? it wouldnt even be a hundred meg
[03:22] <Rug> I have followed a few guides but still cannot get kontact to sync with Google.  Any suggestions on what to do?
[03:22] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: that's the problem, I can't 'move' or resize anything :\
[03:22] <Rug> I have added akondai google.data, it asked for my password, but it isn't syncing
[03:23] <Garr255> I need some help here... I installed a PPA package (bfgminer) and I have no clue where it went. I need to edit some configuration files.
[03:23] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, "gparted live cd".
[03:23] <jagginess> pyrokinetic, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:23] <jagginess> (can make a usb out of it too)
[03:23] <pyrokinetic> jagginess: that's what I've been using. doesn't work, can't move the sliders at all.
[03:23] <jagginess> !ppa
[03:23] <jagginess> Garr255, ^
[03:24] <Garr255> Timeout error
[03:24] <Garr255> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[03:24] <Garr255> We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[03:24] <Garr255> Does that mean you can answer me? :P
[03:25] <Garr255> I've scoured the hdd and google
[03:25] <Garr255> nothing...
[03:25] <Garr255> jagginess, ^ ;)
[03:26] <jagginess> i cant help you with anything ppa, but you can try to set it up checking the files installed-> dpkg -L <pakcagename>
[03:27] <Garr255> jagginess, that worked, thanks!
[03:27] <Garr255> jagginess, give me a bitcoin address and I'll give you half a bitcoin
[03:27] <Garr255> (~6 USD)
[03:29] <gogeta> Garr255: lol bitcoin
[03:29] <Garr255> jagginess, ohh my god, I'm derping. I was ftp'd into a different server than ssh...
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
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[03:36] <cado> hi
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> !welcome > lotuspsychje
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[03:40] <lotuspsychje> woot-0854:lets move to ot
[03:40] <woot-0854> ya
[03:41] <woot-0854> !ot
[03:41] <Nautilus> is this a suitable way to install a LAMP stack?  sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[03:41] <Notleet> !guidlines
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | Nautilus
[03:41] <Nautilus> thanks, thats the page I got that from :)
[03:43] <Schnapper> Hey everybody
[03:44] <Anusien> I have ushare installed, and it created a /etc/init.d/ushare. How do I configure this to run automatically at boot?
[03:46] <zykotick9> Anusien: 1) i have NO idea what ushare is 2) FYI /etc/init.d is the old sysv - ubuntu uses upstart.  good luck.
[03:48] <Anusien> zykotick9: What ushare does is irrelevant, but it provides you with a name of a process. And upstart doesn't seem to play well with /etc/init.d/; you either have to convert from one to another or duplicate the effort. If you have upstart call the /etc/init.d/ file, it won't get the pid and be able to get status
[03:49] <zykotick9> Anusien: sorry.  i'm zero help on upstart (services on ubuntu).
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> !bum | Anusien
[03:56] <k_sze> How do I move, recursively, files from a path /a/ to a path /b/ while preserving the file mode and ownership of files and directories seen in /b/ (the target directory)?
[03:56] <zykotick9> k_sze: try -r and -a i believe
[03:57] <zykotick9> k_sze: oh, for mv i don't think it matters, i was thinking cp
[03:57] <zykotick9> k_sze: i'd use cp and test results before moving
[03:57] <k_sze> Does mv try to preserve the file modes and permissions from the source directory?
[03:58] <Nautilus> is it suitable to install phpmyadmin via the Software Center?
[03:58] <zykotick9> k_sze: i believe so
[03:58] <bluej774> Once upon a time there was an interactive OpenGL shader editor program available through the repositories.  I forget its name and now I can't find it.  Anybody know what I'm talking about?
[03:59] <Caradoc> k_sze: I use rsync for things like that, but it's takes a bit to learn
[03:59] <zykotick9> Caradoc: +1 on rsync suggestion
[04:00] <bluej774> I don't remember if it was for GLSL or cg, but that doesn't really matter.
[04:01] <Caradoc> k_sze: rync will do an intelligent, recursive copy, and if you do it again, it will only copy what changed
[04:01] <miniCruzer> my connection to my hidden wireless network will randomly time out and I don't know why. dmesg is filled with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216100/
[04:02] <sgo11> hard to explain my problem. basically the ping command does not work properly for many sites. I remembered this was because hosts are not designed properly for some reverse lookup or something. I can't express clearly. I remembered I could give an argument to ping to bypass this issue. but I forgot what argument/parameter I need to give to ping. I can not find it in man page...
[04:02] <woot-0854>  /exit
[04:03] <Xeus> I have a directory permission: drwxrwsrwx    --- How do I remove the s?
[04:03] <zykotick9> miniCruzer: i don't know what it means.  but, "wlan0: authentication with 4c:60:de:cf:d8:b6 timed out" is certainly not good.  best of luck.
[04:03] <Xeus> the sticky bit
[04:04] <Xeus> chmod 0777 doesn't remove it
[04:04] <quiescens> Xeus: chmod g-s
[04:04] <Xeus> quiescens: thanks
[04:04] <k_sze> so yeah, `man rsync` says that -p "preserve permissions", but is it permissions of the target, or permissions of the source?
[04:05] <quiescens> k_sze: preserve permissions usually means it will try to make the target's permissions the same as they were at the source
[04:05] <jrib> Xeus: the chmod command you gave should also work
[04:05] <k_sze> so that's not what I want. :D
[04:07] <Caradoc> k_sze: rsync -av source dest  // -a implies several other settings
[04:08] <Caradoc> k_sze: Oh, if you're trying to preserve the target permissions, that's harder.  Usually you want to copy the source's permissions to the target.
[04:08] <k_sze> Caradoc: In my case, I don't. Hehe, because the target permissions and ownership were set by Fantastico already.
[04:09] <k_sze> (trying to update a Drupal installation that was done through Fantastico)
[04:09] <mangdood_> Is it possible to make a "link" to a directory and still have that "link" have its own contents?
[04:10] <zykotick9> mangdood_: not really.  you're ALMOST, but not, talking about hard-links though
[04:10] <zykotick9> mangdood_: hard-links can't cross partition bounds!
[04:11] <mangdood_> zykotick9: Ah. So the most I can do is maintain soft-links to the contents of the folder I want.
[04:11] <zykotick9> mangdood_: if it's on a different filesystem, then yes.
[04:12] <zykotick9> mangdood_: unless you use rsync/unison or whatever.
[04:12] <Caradoc> k_sze: In my experience, that's usually messy.  Copy the files, then do a chmod -r to recursively change permissions, or chown -r to change owners, but then it will change everything to be the same.  I'll leave it to somebody else if there is a better way.
[04:12] <Xeus> jrib: it didn't for some reason
[04:12] <Xeus> anywho the g-s worked, thanks
[04:12] <miniCruzer> zykotick9: I rebooted router, we'll see how long of a fix that is
[04:12] <mangdood_> zykotick9: rsync would be too overkill for something like this, so it's fine. I think I'll just stick to symlinks then. Thanks
[04:13] <woot-0854> mangdood_: ln -s /dir/file /new/dir/file
[04:13] <zykotick9> mangdood_: woot-0854's suggestion IS what you're doing now right?
[04:13] <mangdood_> zykotick9: Yep
[04:13] <zykotick9> mangdood_: just checkin'
[04:14] <deviantlinux> Anyone have much experience with sox?  I'm trying to mix multiple files and handle volume for each one...
[04:15] <Nautilus> I've found a couple different command lines to install phpmyadmin but don't understand the details of the differences... can someone help me decide?   sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin  -or-  sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql phpmyadmin  -or-  ?
[04:16] <deviantlinux> Nautilus: why not just download it from the phpmyadmin site?
[04:16] <Nautilus> trying to find a common wasy to install softwares (in as much as that is possible).  Why would I do it one way or the other?
[04:17] <zykotick9> deviantlinux: downloading and installing source code is not a good way to admin a ubuntu/debian box.  that package will be completely unkown by the package management system (but it could be ESSENTIAL that PM system knows what very that package is...)
[04:17] <woot-0854> Nautilus: think, site gets new updates all the time
[04:18] <zykotick9> s/very/version/
[04:18] <deviantlinux> Nautilus: apt-get install anything is the most common way.  I'm just saying phpmyadmin is a collection of PHP scripts, so it's not really something I see a need to grab via apt-get heh
[04:18] <woot-0854> repos are just sites
[04:18] <Nautilus> zykotick9: ah thanks, thats what I was thinking
[04:18] <zykotick9> woot-0854: repos are sites that gets updates, and can be of confirmed working status...
[04:18]  * Caradoc is installing the new Linux version of Torchlight
[04:18] <WeThePeople> hi
[04:19] <Nautilus> deviantlinux: gotcha
[04:19] <witakr> Hello good people
[04:19] <woot-0854> witakr: hi
[04:19] <woot-0854> ty | zykotick9
[04:19] <witakr> I have a question.. Is this where I ask for help with xubuntu or should I try another channel?
[04:19] <Nautilus> ohhhh i think this libapache2-mod-auth-mysql is for use say in .htaccess?
[04:19] <woot-0854> !xubuntu
[04:20] <deviantlinux> Nautilus: that is an apache module, and is not really related to phpmyadmin...where did you see that you need that?
[04:20] <zykotick9> witakr: you can ask here.  or if ist specfic to xfce try #xubuntu.  either is fine though (bigger audience here, more specialized there ;)
[04:21] <Nautilus> deviantlinux: install instructions here.  Yea seems like an apache thing ... is it for https?
[04:21] <zykotick9> witakr: but don't cross post to both ;)
[04:21] <witakr> right. Thanks for that. I have xubuntu running already. Perhaps i should be more specific. I am having issues settign permissions on a secondary HD on my machine.
[04:21] <Nautilus> deviantlinux: here*: http://tuxtweaks.com/2012/04/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/2/
[04:21] <mangdood_> Are there any problems exactly with installing packages with a large number of dependencies?
[04:21] <zykotick9> witakr: that actually sounds like something that #ubuntu COULD help you with... but choose whatever.
[04:21] <witakr> I have two HDs installed: one for my OS and another for my Plex media server. My Plex is not detecting my media and i am assuming it is an issue with permissions.
[04:22] <woot-0854> witakr: ohhh i like hardware :)
[04:22] <deviantlinux> Nautilus: I see.  Not sure then.  I use PMA all the time, and never seen a need for that apache module.
[04:22] <Nautilus> deviantlinux: and I could install it later if needed. ok thanks!
[04:24] <woot-0854> witakr: on /dev/???
[04:24] <chamunks> what are some reasons why I might be getting a corrupt disk image on my usb boot of 12 04 server
[04:24] <chamunks> its just not verifying a single conf file.
[04:25] <woot-0854> witakr: do you know the location of the device in the /dev directory?
[04:25] <mangdood_> chamunks: perhaps the download had an error? You can try getting a checksum of the image you downloaded
[04:25] <witakr> UBUNTU! I choose you! Use KNOWLEDGE! - I am trying to set permissions for my secondary HD to allow read/write from my Plex Media Server/Manager but when I try to set them in the Property option under the permissions tab The changes to not stick. When i try to use chown in terminal I get a permission denied and when i use chmod the changes I request do not seem to be made.
[04:26] <chamunks> mangdood_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server doesn't appear to provide a sha or md5
[04:26] <woot-0854> witakr: you never awnsered my question
[04:26] <witakr> Sorry, I was typing and missed your comments to me.. One sec while I catch up.
[04:26] <woot-0854> witakr: what is the /dev location?
[04:26] <prishabh> hi, anyone used schroot ?
[04:26] <prishabh> I need to execute a command and pass it an option, but it seems like the options passed to the command is ignored.
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> prishabh: i've used chroot, not schroot...
[04:27] <witakr> woot-0854, the location of My HD?
[04:27] <prishabh> schroot is cool when you wanna chroot as a regular user :)
[04:27] <Nautilus> LAMP and PMA all working!
[04:27] <Nautilus> !unity
[04:27] <witakr> woot-0854, /media/witTV/ whereas "witTV" is the name of my media HD
[04:27] <prishabh> ActionParsnip: I don't know but does options work fine with chroot ? $ chroot /path/to cmd -o ?
[04:27] <woot-0854> the one that isn't working?  are you getting any file in the /dev directory pointing to the disk?
[04:27] <prishabh> with schroot the -o seems to get ignored :(
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> prishabh: usually you chroot to fix stuff, so being root aint all bad :)
[04:28] <Nautilus> utoh, http://unity.ubuntu.com looks sick
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> prishabh: you'll have to read man chroot
[04:28] <woot-0854> witakr: type mount in the terminal and look for that /media/witTV
[04:28] <prishabh> Nautilus: I get WP PHP Errors
[04:28] <witakr> woot-0854, ok
[04:28] <mangdood_> chamunks: I'ma look around. I haven't been on the ubuntu webpage in a long while
[04:28] <prishabh> ActionParsnip: hmm
[04:28] <Nautilus> prishabh: me too
[04:28] <woot-0854> its in dev ?
[04:28] <crizis> wordpress quality
[04:28] <crizis> works if you refresh anyway
[04:28] <chamunks> mangdood_, much appreciated.
[04:28] <Nautilus> oh, worked on 3rd try
[04:29] <witakr> woot-0854, I found this: "    /dev/sdb1 on /media/witTV type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)   "
[04:29] <woot-0854> witakr: nice
[04:29] <woot-0854> witakr: cd /dev
[04:30] <woot-0854> witakr: ls -al sdb1
[04:30] <woot-0854> what are the wrx---r--?
[04:30] <witakr> woot-0854,  "    brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 Sep 19 23:20 sdb1    "
[04:31] <woot-0854> sudo chmod u+x sdb1
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> woot-0854: that won't do anything :)
[04:31] <blackshirt> woot-0854: what you need ?
[04:31] <mangdood_> chamunks: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[04:31] <woot-0854> sudo chmod 0775 sdb1
[04:31] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: well, not really.  but it SHOULDN'T be done.
[04:31] <witakr> woot-0854,  new ls -al : "    brwxrw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 Sep 19 23:20 sdb1    "
[04:32] <woot-0854> oh
[04:32] <woot-0854> i see it
[04:32] <woot-0854> cd /media/TV
[04:32] <witakr> woot-0854, new after chmod: "     brwxrwxr-x 1 root disk 8, 17 Sep 19 23:20 sdb1     "
[04:32] <Nautilus> http://unity.ubuntu.com seems to be short on basic user info.  I get the idea but looking to read up on it. tips?
[04:33] <woot-0854> witakr: still not working?
[04:33]  * zykotick9 wonders what fuseblk as a filesystem means?
[04:33] <tizz> hello!
[04:33] <tizz> is there someone here who can help me?
[04:34] <rbrooks> hi
[04:34] <woot-0854> :)
[04:34] <mangdood_> chamunks: The page should have the checksum files listed on the page... not that I would know much about it; first time I've seen the page
[04:34] <tizz> hi, i'm having wine trouble
[04:34] <witakr> woot-0854,  No, Plex is still not decting my media. Perhpps it was not an issue with permissions as I expected considering what you instructed me to do seems to ahve worked.
[04:34] <woot-0854> witakr: dont change anything for a sec
[04:34] <tizz> any wine pros here?
[04:34] <zykotick9> tizz: installing wine or using wine?  if it's installing ask here, if using try #winehq
[04:34] <witakr> woot-0854, However, my original problem, Plex not detecting my media, is still present.
[04:35] <witakr> woot-0854,  ok
[04:35] <tizz> ok thanks zyko
[04:35] <woot-0854> cd /dev || chmod u-x,g-x,o-rx sdb1
[04:35] <zykotick9> !tab > tizz
[04:35] <woot-0854> witakr: ls -a
[04:35] <woot-0854> in /dev
[04:36] <witakr> woot-0854,  While still cd'd in media/witTV?
[04:36] <woot-0854> naw cd into /dev
[04:36] <chamunks> mangdood_, found it :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#head-be34311205f11c747d4e163c597629c1d4627861
[04:36] <witakr> woot-0854, ok
[04:36] <woot-0854> YAr talk like Pirate day is at its end.
[04:37] <zykotick9> woot-0854: fyi in /dev - the difference between "ls" and "ls -a" is seeing the . and .. directories
[04:37] <mangdood_> chamunks: Well still, the release page is still more general for the hashes, I would think
[04:37] <chamunks> mangdood_, I've downloaded "DownThemAll" addon for firefox and just stuck the hash directly into that so it checks as it downloads to confirm its correct.
[04:37] <woot-0854> witakr: sorry
[04:37] <woot-0854> ls -la sdb1
[04:37] <witakr> woot-0854, It returned a long list. What do you need from it?
[04:37] <chamunks> mangdood_, sorry?
[04:37] <woot-0854> just sdb1
[04:37] <witakr> woot-0854, ok
[04:37] <woot-0854> need to look at the mods to make sure they are default
[04:37] <mangdood_> chamunks: Uh, I linked you http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ in case you missed it
[04:38] <chamunks> mangdood_, oh ok yes i did apparently.
[04:38] <zykotick9> witakr: i'm afraid you're being lead up a strange path...
[04:38] <witakr> woot-0854, Return on ls: brwxrwxr-x 1 root disk 8, 17 Sep 19 23:20 sdb1
[04:38] <tizz> thank you zykotick9
[04:38] <nicaury> i have ubuntu 12.04 server install with raid1 today i reboot the system and the system no boot and have this error "UNKNOWN LVM METADATA HEADER". how to fix?
[04:38] <woot-0854> chmod u-x,g-x,o-rx sdb1
[04:38] <zykotick9> lol, witakr don't do that.
[04:38] <witakr> zykotick9, Like Alice? lol
[04:39] <zykotick9> witakr: changing permissions on devices is useless.
[04:39] <akis> hi all. i am using thunderbird to recieve my emails. i installed an extension which was usable and i remove it. i cannot see a related dir in my /home under /thunderbird/exrensions. Is that a proof that extension was completlely remove or is it possible that there are some corrupted files somewhere else?
[04:39] <zykotick9> witakr: chaning permission os filesystems is helpful.
[04:39] <woot-0854> zykotick9: works fine
[04:39] <woot-0854> ur just gui
[04:40] <woot-0854> zykotick9: I maintained the sticky bit
[04:40] <witakr> zykotick9, Ok. Perhaps knowing my desired end result I can better show with what i need help.
[04:40] <zykotick9> lol, "ur just gui" - OMG i'm dieing.
[04:40] <nicaury> sorry look this problem i have ubuntu 12.04 server install with raid1 today i reboot the system and the system no boot and have this error "UNKNOWN LVM METADATA HEADER". how to fix?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> woot-0854: the changes in /dev won't stick as they are in tempfs :)
[04:41] <woot-0854> ActionParsnip: NICE! no fstab
[04:41] <witakr> zykotick9, I am trying to set up Plex Media Server on my machine using my secondary HD as storage for my media. I have plex installed and running however it is not detecting my media. Any ideas?
[04:41] <woot-0854> that was where I was trying to go with it
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> woot-0854: the changes will be lost next boot though
[04:42] <zykotick9> witakr: i've seen your "plex media server" issue - i can't help.  i have 0 idea what you need, but i guess it's SAMBA shares (and i don't help with that)
[04:42] <witakr> zykotick9, I understand. Thank you for your consideration.
[04:42] <woot-0854> lol @ sticky bits :p
[04:43] <zykotick9> witakr: but trying to change permissions on /dev stuff is certainly Alice ;)
[04:43] <witakr> Is there anyone here who is familiar with Plex media server and Plex media manager? I have them installed but PMM is not detecting my media on my secondary HD.
[04:44] <woot-0854> witakr: is it apple?
[04:44] <nicaury> sorry look this problem i have ubuntu 12.04 server install with raid1 today i reboot the system and the system no boot and have this error "UNKNOWN LVM METADATA HEADER". how to fix?
[04:45] <witakr> woot-0854, Apple as in the company? As in the evil but scarily accurate representation of what is wrong with corporate mentality in the US? that Apple? No.
[04:46] <woot-0854> !woot | !woot
[04:47] <f00dMonsta> sadface, i wanted to use Unbuntu longer... but visual studio > me
[04:51] <s3r3n1t7> my mouse icon seems to repond rather slow. The moving is just fine, but if the icon changes to the busy icon and back it takes about 5-10 seconds longer than how long it actually is busy.
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> is there another alternative for webcamstudio, streaming a video forced to webcam?
[04:52] <DrManhattan> webcamstudio is the only thing I've seen work in linux
[04:52] <DrManhattan> pretty weak, you have camtwist in osx and a load of things in windows
[04:54] <nicaury> sorry look this problem i have ubuntu 12.04 server install with raid1 today i reboot the system and the system no boot and have this error "UNKNOWN LVM METADATA HEADER". how to fix?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> DrManhattan:tnx mate im not sure howto stream in webcamstudio, got any good tut?
[04:54] <DrManhattan> lotuspsychje, nah, I've only streamed with vlc and mencoder
[04:54] <witakr> It seems the Plex channel is asleep. Is there anyone here who is familiar with Plex?
[04:54] <zykotick9> woot-0854: just to show my GUI'ness, http://imagebin.org/229064 the WM is called awesome (if you haven't seen it before).  One of my mottos "if i can't run it in screen, what good is it to me?"
[04:57] <woot-0854> zykotick9: lawl i dont have a xsession atm :)
[04:58] <Nautilus> I've set my unity launcher to disappear until I shove cursor left, but I'm remoted in and it isn't working.  How can I get back to undo that setting?
[04:59] <zykotick9> woot-0854: even using screen to have multiple terminals displayed on the VTs, i still MUCH prefer the power of Xorg even if it's the power to display multiple terminals ;)
[05:00] <woot-0854> there i got it had to cat
[05:00] <woot-0854> thats cool
[05:00] <woot-0854> tmux?
[05:00] <MarconM> good night
[05:00] <MarconM> \o
[05:01] <witakr> Nautilus, Perhaps this video on youtube will help you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwRBZuloWVs
[05:01] <witakr> I promise it is not a Risk Astley video.
[05:01] <woot-0854> witakr: have you tired opening drive with diffrent O.S.?
[05:02] <Nautilus> witakr: thanks, and lol
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> witakr: i loved that rick roll thing, great song :)
[05:03] <witakr> woot-0854, I use only Xubuntu but I have had Win7, LinuxMind, and OpenSUSE installed and had no trouble accessing the drive. Furthermore, I am able to access and make changes to it in Xubuntu how ever my problem with Plex led me to believe there may be an issue with permissions.
[05:03] <zykotick9> witakr: is it a upnp server you need?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers#UPNP_Mediaserver for 2 options.
[05:04] <Nautilus> witakr: That video shows how to make it auto-hide. I did that already.  I need it to show again
[05:04] <witakr> Nautilus, No problem. Hope that helps.
[05:04] <woot-0854> witakr: eek, not what I wanted to hear
[05:04] <Nautilus> is there a kbd shortcut?
[05:04] <witakr> Nautilus, yes but in setting it to auto-hide you can deduce how to undo that change.
[05:05] <Nautilus> witakr: I cant get to the settings page!
[05:05] <Nautilus> witakr: Ohhhh, right-click on dexktop. sorry
[05:07] <witakr> zykotick9, I think that may be what I need. Possibly. Thank you. I will check in to that link.
[05:08] <woot-0854> zykotick9: do you use vlc?
[05:09] <witakr> ActionParsnip, Yes, I agree. Although when I was inadvertently routed to that video I was disappointed to find something other than what i desired at that moment, I always finished the video. I enjoy the song as well.
[05:22] <jinu> hi
[05:22] <blackshirt> hi jinu
[05:24] <jinu> My linux crash with the error : BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffffff991131e0
[05:25] <akis> i am looking for a command to see if my modem is installed on ttys0. efax-gtk cannot open ttys0.
[05:33] <woot-0854> zykotick9: >
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> jinu: have you tested your RAM using memtest86+ from Grub
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> akis: dmesg | grep tty    may show it
[05:35] <akis> system returns: [    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled
[05:36] <Lasivian> heya, new to 12.04, and cannot figure out how to edit the default window manager
[05:37] <woot-0854> Lasivian: window manager?
[05:37] <Lasivian> woot-0854: This might be Gnome, I cannot figure out how to get to the meat of the GUI
[05:38] <woot-0854> Lasivian: you trying to install new theme or modify !GNOME?
[05:38] <Lasivian> modify
[05:38] <woot-0854> tried compiz?
[05:38] <Lasivian> I want bars in different places, I want 4 desktops again, etc
[05:38] <Lasivian> compiz says another manager is loaded
[05:39] <slowz> Lasivian: install myunity, it will allow you to edit quite a bit of options
[05:39] <Lasivian> thanks
[05:39] <woot-0854> ty | slowz
[05:39] <Lasivian> at least now I can google Unity for more info :)
[05:40] <somethinginteres> trying to find a super easy way to change my DNS servers via a script. Looked on Google, no luck.
[05:41] <woot-0854> somethinginteres: new ip?
[05:41] <akis> !modem
[05:43] <Rockhound> hi
[05:43] <Rockhound> anyone know how to save upper terminal work in a txt file??
[05:44] <woot-0854> Rockhound: what is upper terminal?
[05:44] <Hatori> rockhound,whay you mean with upper terminal?
[05:45] <Rockhound> sorry i mean i how to save scroll back data in a txt file?
[05:45] <woot-0854> Rockhound: scroll back?
[05:45] <woot-0854> like long output?
[05:45] <Hatori> you mean redirection?
[05:45] <Hatori> Some command > somefile.txt
[05:46] <Rockhound> no no i know tht already
[05:46] <Rockhound> i mean scrollback data
[05:46] <Rockhound> like if i typed ls command
[05:46] <woot-0854> ps -ef|cat > somefile.txt?
[05:46] <woot-0854> like that?
[05:46] <Rockhound> now i hav to save it a txt file without using ls > a.txt
[05:47] <Spoom> anyone have any idea about how long it ought to take to reformat a hard drive off a live cd?
[05:47] <Spoom> GParted just says "operation pending" and i don't know the progres
[05:47] <Spoom> progress*
[05:48] <woot-0854> Spoom: I have had 2min-20min
[05:48] <woot-0854> Spoom: on damaged hd
[05:48] <Spoom> so like 90 minutes is an indication that something's going wrong
[05:48] <woot-0854> Spoom: I would assume
[05:48] <woot-0854> 3gbps?
[05:48] <woot-0854> gigs?
[05:49] <Spoom> it's like 128 gigs
[05:49] <jinu> ActionParsnip: ya
[05:49] <Rockhound> no
[05:49] <jinu> I got error like this 'error:too small lower memory'
[05:49] <Rockhound> like if i some did some worked in terminal and now i have to save it in a txt file?
[05:49] <Spoom> what's another good way to wipe a drive then? i'm trying to get it ready to get windows reinstalled on it
[05:49] <Spoom> and GParted isn't cutting it
[05:49] <woot-0854> fdisk
[05:50] <woot-0854> or the parted command
[05:50] <Spoom> alright thanks
[05:50] <Spoom> i'll check that out
[05:50] <woot-0854> :)
[05:51] <Rockhound> hello
[05:51] <Hatori> hello
[05:51] <woot-0854> what is service stop command?
[05:51] <Rockhound> plz help if i did some work in terminal and now i have to save it in a txt file..how to make it possible?
[05:52] <woot-0854> like to stop vnc
[05:52] <jinu> ActionParsnip: is it a problem with my RAM?
[05:59] <akis> why although my driver's modem is installed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216201/) efax cannot open ttys0 (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216202/)? Any idea to fix it?
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> jinu: possibly
[06:00] <int_ua> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com looks down from here.
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> int_ua: works here, try http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[06:01] <int_ua> it was copypaste from isup.me
[06:02] <int_ua> ActionParsnip: have you checked it seconds ago? I'm in Ukraine and you?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedony
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> int_ua: yes, just before I got the page test page
[06:02] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, very lovely to see you
[06:02] <WACOMalt> hey folks I have a big problem. I was using VirtualBox and my display freaked out (never done that before in long time use) Unity got all garbled and I had to reboot. On reboot I get this error. Typically this was in tty1 but I managed to get unity to launch from a terminal this time and the same error printed there (and I could grab it now) anyways can anyone tell me what this is?
[06:02] <WACOMalt> http://www.blindmanstudio.com/dropbox/Selection_012.png
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> int_ua: can you ping the domain by name?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> int_ua: ping -c 4 cdimage.ubuntu.com
[06:03] <int_ua> 64 bytes from zaniah.canonical.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_req=1 ttl=53 time=42.2 ms
[06:04] <int_ua> ActionParsnip: oh, and the browser just loaded it
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> int_ua: I get <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:05] <int_ua> ActionParsnip: looks like it's under heavy load. Takes half a minute to respond
[06:05] <cowsquad> can anyone tell me how to add files with ark to a current directory
[06:06] <WACOMalt> ugh, its happening again
[06:06] <int_ua> and <IP_ADDRESS> is instant
[06:06] <WACOMalt> Why every time I change ANYTHING in compiz does my whole unity crash and refuse to restart
[06:06] <WACOMalt> Currently running without a window manager :/ lucky I can type this time
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: how are you modifying your compiz settings?
[06:07] <WACOMalt> compiz config manager
[06:07] <WACOMalt> or whatever it is
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: thats why
[06:07] <WACOMalt> O_o
[06:07] <WACOMalt> everything says to use that...
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: use myunity or ubuntu-tweak
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: yeah its known to cause issues
[06:07] <WACOMalt> why is compiz manager available in the repos if it doesnt work?
[06:08] <WACOMalt> ok, how do I get unity back then
[06:08] <WACOMalt> && unity
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: run:  unity --reset
[06:08] <WACOMalt> ok we're back
[06:09] <WACOMalt> the error is in d-bus in compiz settings
[06:09] <WACOMalt> I need to turn that setting on for Shutter to work
[06:10] <WACOMalt> how do I notify the Ubuntu folks to take compiz-settings-manager down from the repos?
[06:10] <WACOMalt> umm Closed out the terminal that was running unity aparantly
[06:10] <bazhang> WACOMalt, you dont. file a bug
[06:11] <WACOMalt> if its know to cause problems I figured there already was one (in which case, no action has been taken to at least prevent peoplke from downloading it?))
[06:11] <WACOMalt> I'll file one though
[06:11] <WACOMalt> Ok, where in Unity-Tweak are the compiz settings and how do I enable d-bus access?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: ubuntu-tweak, it's in a 3rd party PPA. myunity is in the official repos
[06:12] <WACOMalt> I have Ubuntu Tweak
[06:12] <WACOMalt> where are the compiz settings
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> please? do you have zero manners?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: not sure to be honest, if you flick around you'll bump into stuff you can tweak
[06:13] <witakr> OOOOOOOOOOKK... Well, I think I have confirmation on my theory regarding restricted permissions on my secondary HD. My Plex log files is returning a "Permission Denied" error in its log file.
[06:14] <WACOMalt> Sorry If I'm being rude, I'm just kinda suprised that a known buggy software is ravaging my system... Thank you for your help, I know you dont get paid for the support and I do appreciate it.
[06:15] <WACOMalt> Does anyone know where compiz settings are in Unity Tweak please? I cannot find them.
[06:15] <WACOMalt> or, is it possible to activate D-Bus access via a cofig file somewhere?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: have you tried in myunity
[06:18] <WACOMalt> I havent, I'll get it.
[06:18] <WACOMalt> is it in a PPA or in the software center?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: Compiz can be a real pain, I just avoid it. Totally not worth it imho
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> !info myunity
[06:19] <WACOMalt> that told me not much :P
[06:19] <WACOMalt> component universe? O_o
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: yes, enable universe repo and install. You probably already enabled it
[06:20] <WACOMalt> is leaving a review on compiz settings manager the same as filing a bug? if not, where do I report a bug?
[06:20] <sliffstar> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=node%3D468204&field-keywords=php&rh=n%3A283155%2Cn%3A!2349030011%2Cn%3A465600%2Cn%3A468204%2Ck%3Aphp
[06:20] <WACOMalt> ah yes, there it is
[06:21] <smoothseas> I have a gui app called CompizConfig on my Ubuntu system
[06:21] <bazhang> sliffstar, whats that. why post that here
[06:21] <WACOMalt> smoothseas, dont use it. ever.
[06:22] <WACOMalt> ok ActionParsnip I am in MyUnity now, do you know where I should look?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> WACOMalt: not sure, I'm at work on windows at the moment, sorry
[06:22] <WACOMalt> ok
[06:22] <WACOMalt> What files do these tools actually edit? Specifically the broken compiz settings manager?  Id rather just edit the configs and manually enable dbus access
[06:23] <nlkl> :)
[06:23] <WACOMalt> or cleanly disable it at this point, it seems to be 1/2 and 1/2 enabled
[06:23] <nickBuntu> hey all
[06:23] <nlkl> nickBuntu hi :)
[06:23] <nickBuntu> can someone tell me what i can't ftp into .gvfs dir?
[06:24] <nickBuntu> I have proftp setup on ubuntu 12.04
[06:24] <usr13> nickBuntu: localhost
[06:24] <nickBuntu> I want to provide ftp acces into the .gvfs folder so the files are downloadable/viewable via ftp
[06:24] <usr13> nickBuntu: ftp localhost
[06:25] <usr13> nickBuntu: So what is .gvfs?
[06:25] <smoothseas> works fine for me WACOM
[06:25] <WACOMalt> until it doesnt
[06:25] <WACOMalt> it worked fine for me for awhile too
[06:25] <WACOMalt> try enabling D-Bus
[06:25] <nickBuntu> .gvfs is Gnome Virtual File System for mounting smb;// without root
[06:26] <smoothseas> maybe something else caused YOUR problems
[06:26] <bazhang> WACOMalt, so file a bug. complaining here will accomplish nothing
[06:26] <WACOMalt> I'm not complaining.. I'm warning.
[06:26] <nickBuntu> I've tried symbolic links into the folder.  wont work, permission denied messages
[06:26] <bazhang> WACOMalt, what exactly are you trying to do, be very clear.
[06:26] <usr13> nickBuntu: Normally, services like ftp work on user access.
[06:26] <WACOMalt> I am trying to enable D-Bus access to Shutter (a promoted app in the software center) will work
[06:27] <nickBuntu> HHHmmmm I think the sudo is playing permissions
[06:27] <usr13> nickBuntu: What exactly is .gvfs ?
[06:27] <WACOMalt> when I checked that box in compiz everything glitched out, unity crashed, and I had a heck of a time getting it back up to even uninstall compiz settings manager
[06:27] <nickBuntu> .gvfs is Gnome Virtual File system for mounting smb:// and other file systems
[06:28] <WACOMalt> It is certainly possible that something else caused it but from the error message it seems the d-bus settings are now borked, which seems logical that compiz settings manager caused since I checked the box only in that program
[06:28] <gerbilcabbagehai> do you guys deal with ubuntu cli here?
[06:28] <bazhang> gerbilcabbagehai, whats the real question
[06:29] <WACOMalt> In any case, my current question is how can I reset my compiz settings to default, and then manually enable D-Bus access, either through myunity, ubuntu tweak, or manually editing config files.
[06:29] <gerbilcabbagehai> i have lots of questions. all to do with cli. Is this the right place to ask them (im not ready to ask them yet) or should i look for another room?
[06:29] <bazhang> gerbilcabbagehai, try and see
[06:30] <gerbilcabbagehai> thanks bazhang :)
[06:30] <bazhang> WACOMalt, ask in #compiz
[06:30] <WACOMalt> ok, thanks bazhang
[06:31] <Lasivian> ahhhh, hoorah, gnomed again
[06:31] <akis> anyone can help me to make efax-gtk to open my modem port (ttySL0)? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216218/
[06:31] <usr13> nickBuntu: So, the ".gvfs" filesystem in the users home directory. Right?
[06:31] <blackshirt> gerbilcabbagehai: yes, you can do ask here
[06:33] <usr13> nickBuntu: http://blog.colovirt.com/2009/12/07/linux-filesystem-gnome-virtual-file-system-gvfs-remote-connectivity-cli/
[06:34] <nickBuntu> yeh usr13
[06:34] <nickBuntu> it's in the users home directory
[06:34] <WACOMalt> Hmm #compiz's response is far from optimistic. They claim Canonical's code is to blame. :/ I really dont want to get caught in a finger pointing battle here, but in you guy's oppinion, where does the fault lie that is causing Compiz settings manager (or just compiz itself?) to be so buggy? So that I may properly report my bugs.
[06:35] <WACOMalt> Again, I'm not complaining. I just want to get this fixed. So far it seem slike it hasnt improved since the first time I used compiz (years ago)
[06:35] <usr13> nickBuntu: Yea, so where are you running into difficulty.
[06:37] <WACOMalt> How much does professional support from Ubuntu cost? I'm willing to pay whatever it costs to get this fixed...
[06:39] <WACOMalt> wait a minute... is it a possibility that Shutter is incorrectly acessing compiz's D-Bus library and causing this problem?
[06:39] <gerbilcabbagehai> WACOMalt: if you want paid support http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/contact is probably your best best
[06:39] <gerbilcabbagehai> *bet
[06:40] <WACOMalt> ok, thank you very much
[06:40] <WACOMalt> ugh, two working days T_T

[06:40] <WACOMalt> O_o
[06:40] <WACOMalt> That's two days of income I dont make...
[06:41] <usr13> WACOMalt: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/contact
[06:42] <WACOMalt> already got it usr13 but thanks
[06:42] <gerbilcabbagehai> WACOMalt: are you in need of tech support "right away"?
[06:42] <el> udshf
[06:42] <WACOMalt> yes.
[06:42] <el> olas
[06:42] <el> amores
[06:42] <usr13> WACOMalt: (You can cll them on the phone...)
[06:42] <el> cmo stan
[06:42] <WACOMalt> I have to work tomorrow morning
[06:42] <FloodBot1> el: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:42] <WACOMalt> oh!
[06:42] <Guest90254> fuck
[06:42] <IdleOne> !language | Guest90254
[06:43] <WACOMalt> usr13, where is the phone support number?
[06:43] <usr13> Main switchboard number: +44 20 7630 2400
[06:44] <WACOMalt> what country is that?
[06:44] <IdleOne> London
[06:44] <gerbilcabbagehai> other contact details also : http://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us WACOMalt
[06:44] <WACOMalt> ok, long distance time :P
[06:44] <Guest90254> aoras
[06:44] <WACOMalt> there we go, thank you gerbilcabbagehai
[06:44] <Guest90254> dnd verga verga toii
[06:44] <Guest90254> valen todos verga mmv
[06:45] <WACOMalt> !it Guest90254
[06:45] <WACOMalt> hmm what's the italian command :P
[06:45] <usr13> !it | Guest12435
[06:45] <WACOMalt> ah forgot the pipe.
[06:45] <IdleOne> that wasn't italian
[06:45] <IdleOne> anyway, they are gonre
[06:45] <IdleOne> gone*
[06:45] <WACOMalt> oh sorry, google translate detected it as italian.
[06:46] <gerbilcabbagehai> \o/
[06:46] <WACOMalt> ok well I guess I cant find out much more in here or #compiz tonight. Thank you guys for what you were able to help me with, at least I know the fault is somewhere in the compiz code. I'll try to file a bug report tonight.
[06:48] <witakr> Is there a way to allow specific software permissions to read/write to a specific drive or directory therein?
[06:49] <usr13> witakr: Yes
[06:50] <witakr> Could someone help walk me through the process of allowing specific software permission to read/write to a specific drive or directory therein?
[06:51] <bazhang> witakr, need details, a lot more
[06:51] <Zhil> Can I add my own applications to the "quick search"?
[06:53] <witakr> I have a secondary HD which i use to store media such as movies and music. I am running Plex (from plexapp.com) to manage that media an allow me to stream them to my other devices. A log file from the plex app tells me that during a scan of my secondary HD for media it was given an error of "Permission Denied".
[06:54] <witakr> bazhang, Perhaps if I set the permissions properly the plex app will be able to scan and access those media files.
[06:54] <gerbilcabbagehai> what is the command to mount a usb drive and copy the entire contents over to... documents?
[06:54] <witakr> bazhang,  This is what I am trying to accomplish.
[06:57] <subcool_> TJ-, me
[06:57] <gerbilcabbagehai> what is the command to identify devices? ls?
[06:57] <bazhang> gerbilcabbagehai, lsusb? lspci? sudo lshw? dmesg? which one
[06:58] <blackshirt> gerbilcabbagehai: you should identify your devices, you can use it with fdisk -l
[06:58] <gerbilcabbagehai> thanks blackshirt
[06:58] <blackshirt> gerbilcabbagehai: and show the output, ensure that devices was your usb
[06:59] <witakr> From my last scan attmept this was produce and logged in the Plex Server log file: Sep 20, 2012 01:58:22 [0x7f1898310740] WARN - Caught exception while scanning Movies: boost::filesystem::status: Permission denied: "/media/witTV/witTV/Movies"
[07:00] <test__> Hello! could someone help with the ubuntu 12.04 and ALC262 sound card problem? I managed to get sound by using this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils gdm ubuntu-desktop  linux-image-`uname -r` libasound2; sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install linux-sound-base alsa-base...
[07:00] <test__> ...alsa-utils gdm ubuntu-desktop  linux-image-`uname -r` libasound2; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*; sudo usermod -aG `cat /etc/group | grep -e '^pulse:' -e '^audio:' -e '^pulse-access:' -e '^pulse-rt:' -e '^video:' | awk -F: '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ',' | sed 's:,$::g'` `whoami`
[07:01] <gerbilcabbagehai> blackshirt: do i need to sudo with that?
[07:01] <test__> but the problem is when i put in headphone jack it plays both headphones and speakers and when i pull it out sound is gone and then i have to do reinstall because it won't come back
[07:02] <blackshirt> gerbilcabbagehai: usually not needed
[07:02] <gerbilcabbagehai> when i type fdisk -l nothing happens
[07:02] <mcatch_> woot
[07:03] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: sudo required
[07:03] <mcatch_> finally got ubuntu working! so glad to be back and learning linux again
[07:03] <mcatch_> piece of advice, don't dual boot ubuntu w/ windows 8... was a nightmare and a half. had to revert back to win7
[07:03] <gerbilcabbagehai> better, thanks somsip
[07:04] <test__> anyone
[07:04] <test__> ?
[07:04] <blackshirt> test__: what you need ?
[07:04] <gerbilcabbagehai> somsip: is there a way to auto mount usb in cli?
[07:04] <test__> it's written above would be ubuntu 12.04 and ALC262 sound card problem
[07:05] <test__> when jack is in sound comes from everywhere when its out no sound and reinstall couse sound is gone forever
[07:06] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: I had this - it wouldn't recognise inserted USB drives in 12.04 64bit? I got it working, so I'll see if I can remind myself what I did...
[07:06] <gerbilcabbagehai> i have 32bit
[07:06] <gerbilcabbagehai> if that helps / changes anything
[07:07] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: any error message - like 'Not Authorised' when you try to access it?
[07:08] <sovan> haritage@2008
[07:08] <gerbilcabbagehai> no, it's working properly doing it manually, i just want to make it easier on myself when i have lots of usb sticks to copy over to my server :)
[07:08] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: sorry -  different problem to what I had then
[07:09] <Ileden> Problem: My netbook loses it's WLAN capability after a random amount of time. It still sees all the networks, and tries to connect to them, but fails (promprts for authentication key). This does happen in the middle of using the WLAN. A reboot always fixes the issue. This does not happen in Win7 (dualboot). Only started to do this after 12.04 update.
[07:09] <Ileden> How should I try to debug this to pinpoint the problem?
[07:11] <gerbilcabbagehai> i saw something (script?) about automounting audio cd's, ripping them to drive in flac, then transcoding them to mp3. I have a fair amount of cd's that i want to get onto my home server. and usb files with some of my work backups. id like to streamline my process by creating a automount usb script, so that i can plug in, walk away
[07:12] <gerbilcabbagehai> i need some help in creating said scripts and or command line commands while I do this.
[07:12] <test__> sometimes this channel is as helpful as a dead horse...
[07:12]  * gerbilcabbagehai kicks the dead horse
[07:12] <gerbilcabbagehai> :)
[07:14] <gerbilcabbagehai> test__: I know i've done some audio work in ubuntu and had a nightmare of a time. maybe i can help you think the issues through? what have you tried already?
[07:16] <gerbilcabbagehai> test__: Q, why would removing hardware, i.e. your headphone jack remove sound? is there likely to be another problem?
[07:17] <test__> no i mean i reinstall oall os couse after pluging in and out the jack i didn't manage to turn it bask on not from system sound setings nor with alsamixer
[07:17] <gerbilcabbagehai> cli or gui?
[07:17] <Ileden> gerbilcabbagehai: You might try askubuntu.com or superuser.com, if nobody on this channel is interested.
[07:18] <gerbilcabbagehai> test__: cli or gui?
[07:19] <test__> what does that mean? Be aware you are comunicating with a total Linux noob
[07:19] <gerbilcabbagehai> i am too test__ :) cli = command line interface, gui = graphical user interface
[07:20] <test__> gui
[07:20] <witakr> I may or may not return. I need to restart. Thank you for your help.
[07:21] <gerbilcabbagehai> i find it strange that unplugging a jack would cause your system to lose all sound. i suspect there is a different problem. Why are you using that script and where did you get it from? test__
[07:22] <test__> Googled "sound troubleshooting ubuntu" it's from ubuntu site
[07:23] <somsip> test__: it's not good form to suggest googling here, but if you search for "ubuntu 12.04 and ALC262 sound card problem" you will find that this soundcard seems to be a problem with ubuntu. Have you tried any other solutions as it's clearly quiet time in here and not many people are around to help
[07:23] <gerbilcabbagehai> test__: can i assume your speakers are plugged into the back of the computer and the headphones are plugged into the speaker jack?
[07:24] <test__> I even found that there is registered bug about alc262 sound card and Ubuntu I tried a lot of manuals nothing worked so far so I came here for help
[07:24] <test__> Its fujitsu laptop so only one speaker jack is available
[07:25] <gerbilcabbagehai> test__: ah laptop. :( inbuilt realtek soundcard
[07:25] <test__> Yes
[07:25] <gerbilcabbagehai> test__: sorry i assumed it was a desktop.
[07:25] <Calinou> don't assume computers are desktops today
[07:25] <Calinou> more like tablets :p
[07:25] <gerbilcabbagehai> yeah :) thanks. I made an ass out of me :)
[07:26] <gerbilcabbagehai> test__: so, are you using the right drivers for the soundcard?
[07:26] <test__> it's ok at least you try to help not just mock other people :P
[07:26] <test__> Gone for a smoke back in 10 min.
[07:26] <gerbilcabbagehai> ok
[07:27] <gerbilcabbagehai> why do i mkdir to mount usb drives?
[07:27] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: From what you say, automount is not working
[07:28] <gerbilcabbagehai> I haven't set it up yet i think, from CLI
[07:28] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: then that's why you need to create a mountpoint
[07:28] <gerbilcabbagehai> somsip: everytime i mount a usb or just once on the system?
[07:28] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: you tell me - you're asking the question
[07:29] <gerbilcabbagehai> lol. ok. what is a mountpoint? im asking for understanding
[07:30] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: usually, when a USB drive or pendrive or CD or DVD is inserted, the OS figures it out, creates a dir in /mnt or /media which is where the contents of the drive/CD/DVD are mounted. Does your not do this?
[07:30] <gerbilcabbagehai> somsip: in command line it does this also?
[07:31] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: that question makes no sense. Normally the OS mounts a drive of CD/DVD automatically. Which means you don't need to do anything
[07:32] <gerbilcabbagehai> somsip: i am in ubuntu server 12.04 32 bit. Does automounting happen in server commandline?
[07:32] <timfrost> gerbilcabbagehai: is this system running ubuntu server?
[07:32] <gerbilcabbagehai> timfrost: yes
[07:34] <chamunks> !uvccapture
[07:34] <chamunks> Anyone know what package I should install if i want to plug a webcam into ubuntu 12.04 lts server
[07:36] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: the official wiki suggests the manual approach should be used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Automounting_.28Ubuntu_Server.29
[07:36] <timfrost> gerbilcabbagehai: that makes sense.  A mount point is the directory that you specify to use as the base for the file system on the USB (or CD/DVD). The GUI automatically creates a direecdtory under /media for the device.  On server, you need to create /mnt to use as the mount point, and specify that in the mount command
[07:36] <gerbilcabbagehai> chamunks: seen these? http://askubuntu.com/questions/63922/how-do-i-set-up-a-webcam-server-for-http, http://hacktivision.com/index.php/2009/06/16/setting-up-an-ubuntu-webcam-server
[07:36] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: but also suggests looking at usbmount
[07:36] <chamunks>  thanks gerbilcabbagehai
[07:36] <blackshirt> gerbilcabbagehai:  I think you should play with udev
[07:36] <gerbilcabbagehai> thanks somsip and timfrost
[07:36] <gerbilcabbagehai> manning udev now
[07:37] <gerbilcabbagehai> udev looks interesting blackshirt
[07:37] <gerbilcabbagehai> thanks
[07:38] <chamunks> gerbilcabbagehai, would those run well as daemons?
[07:38] <blackshirt> gerbilcabbagehai: learn how to write some udev rules,
[07:38] <gerbilcabbagehai> how can i suppress joining messages in empathy?
[07:38] <gerbilcabbagehai> chamunks: no idea. I just googled them for you. You tell me if they work for you. :)
[07:39] <chamunks> fair
[07:41] <retrorex> does any1 know linux command for listing file systems with label unlike fdisk
[07:42] <Kartagis> man ls
[07:42] <retrorex> fdisk listing with label of the drive
[07:43] <retrorex> kay
[07:43] <gerbilcabbagehai> Why are there many "man's" for things not installed?
[07:43] <morteza> how to stop gnome?
[07:43] <codemaniac> may be /proc/partition has all you want
[07:44] <gerbilcabbagehai> morteza: kill gnome?
[07:44] <deffrag> Hello! I'm trying to get VNC working following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC . I'm trying to connect to my desktop from laptop, both in the same local network. Both systems are running Ubuntu12.04 desktop.  I can ssh into the system.Following the post, here are my attempts - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216304/ Can anyone help me connect? What am I missing?
[07:44] <blackshirt> morteza: $sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:44] <blackshirt> morteza: or service gdm stop
[07:44] <morteza> blackshirt: I haven't any file with dgm name under the init.d dir
[07:44] <Squall56681> morteza: stop lightdm
[07:45] <blackshirt> morteza: its depend your ubuntu version....
[07:45] <morteza> blackshirt: last version
[07:45] <blackshirt> morteza: newer ubuntu using lightdm
[07:45] <blackshirt> morteza: last version using lightdm
[07:46] <morteza> Squall56681 , blackshirt thanks guys ;)
[07:47] <timfrost> deffrag: what happens if you run  the vnc command with '-display $DISPLAY'? Does the ssh session set $DISPLAY?
[07:47] <morteza> clear
[07:48] <ping__> hy
[07:48] <gerbilcabbagehai> is a mountpoint temporary?
[07:48] <ping__> what function shared library
[07:49] <chamunks> http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjpg-streamer/ this wont install for some reason :P
[07:49] <ping__> #ldd /bin/ls
[07:49] <deffrag> timfrost: Let me try with '-display $DISPLAY'. From laptop, the ssh command used is ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 test@desktop.  Moreover, the desktop is most likely on lightdm login screen
[07:49] <chamunks> sorry for the dumb question.
[07:49] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: the OS must know where the new filesystem is located.
[07:49] <chamunks> the tutorial I'm using is this fellows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-nIUgB35OQ
[07:50] <chamunks> basically I need to take /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 and /dev/video2 and pipe them each to their own web address.
[07:50] <gerbilcabbagehai> somsip: e.g. in your example, if I insert a CD in GUI, does the system create a new mountpoint, then when i remove the cd it removes the mountpoint?
[07:50] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: you had this answer already. If you are using server edition, the system does nothing. Unless you enable automounting. Have you?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer and screen corruption on cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed?
[07:51] <somsip> lotuspsychje: wow - you've had this one for ages :-(
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> somsip:i cant get rid of it mate
[07:52] <timfrost> deffrag: do you have the VNC server running as described in the tutorial?  My previous suggestion uses tunnelling of the X traffic, not the VNC session.
[07:52] <deffrag> timfrost: It says "not enough arguments for: -display" on trying '-display $DISPLAY'. The command used, as mentioned in the paste above, uses <x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0> asper the wiki
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> somsip:well i can get rid of it with nomodeset add to grub, but then compiz aint working
[07:53] <gerbilcabbagehai> somsip:  im asking for clarity, so i understand what the ubuntu is doing. i understand i have to do it manually (or enable automount), im asking why it is doing what it does. Is it because mountpoints are temporary, each time you insert/remove a drive? Or do mountpoints stay in memory?
[07:53] <somsip> lotuspsychje: not that I know how to help on this, but what does it look like? Can you paste a screenie?
[07:53] <deffrag> timfrost: I installed x11vnc and openssh-server on desktop and openssh-cleint and openssh-server installed in laptop
[07:54] <somsip> gerbilcabbagehai: If automount is working, a mountpoint will be created that can be read/write by plugdev group. When the drive/disk is ejected, the mountpoint is removed
[07:54] <freakolowsky> lo ... anyone here got a clue about configuring acpi governors?
[07:54] <spln> hey if i downgrade my laptop memory from a 1333mhz to a 1066mhz do you think there will be a big performace difference ?
[07:55] <gerbilcabbagehai> somsip: cool thanks. that makes sense
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> somsip:well when i take a screenshot on screen corruption u cant see desktop nomore
[07:56] <somsip> lotuspsychje: well, only cos I saw this but I appreciate it's clutching at straws: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21295/mouse-pointer-strange-problem
[07:56] <somsip> lotuspsychje: the xorg.conf change looked unusual enough to be interesting
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> somsip:yes its something like that
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> somsip:but i tested the xorg swcursor, it didnt fix
[07:57] <somsip> lotuspsychje: kk
[07:57] <timfrost> deffrag: you need a VNC client on the laptop, and run that.  That will be passed to the desktop, because of the ssh '-L 5900:localhost:5900 '
[07:58] <Zhil> Can I add my own applications to the "quick search" thing in unity? I.e the thing that shows up pressing "windows key"
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> somsip:i got similar issues like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[07:58] <deffrag> timfrost: Um, so you mean. I should run that ssh command to desktop and then start vnc on laptop?
[07:58] <somsip> lotuspsychje: high...critical...unassigned. Hmmm
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> somsip:what does that mean?
[07:59] <somsip> lotuspsychje: looks like you're waiting for this to be fixed. It's been accepted. It's been flagged as critical. But not done yet
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> somsip:ic i tryed ubuntu-bugs too with no luck
[08:00] <somsip> lotuspsychje: well, if they agree it's a problem but haven't yet come up with a patch, maybe there is little much else to do for now
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> somsip:i also got this bug on several systems, with older ati cards
[08:01] <timfrost> deffrag: you need to start the VNC server on the desktop after logging in to the desktop, then start a VNC client on the laptop
[08:01] <freakolowsky> ok, i'll just ask ... when my laptop is running on battery cpu is limited to the lowest frequency scaling_max_freq = scaling_min_freq .... anyone know a way to prevent this? ... i'm using i've tried default kernel, compiled 3.4 with default governor ondemand and with default governor  userspace ... i'm using 12.04 and the laptop is a HP EB 8540w
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> somsip:ok tnx anyway mate
[08:02] <deffrag> timfrost: Yes, I'm logged in to the desktop. How do I start VNC server? "x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0" ? And then start a VNC client on laptop?
[08:02] <somsip> lotuspsychje: just showing an interest
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> somsip:apreciate it man
[08:04] <m3pow> hello!
[08:04] <blackshirt> m3pow: hello
[08:05] <m3pow> can anyone help me install a ppa to solve the unity issue regarding the launchpad tooltip ?
[08:05] <awaad> I am watching a video of about 45 minutes from ubuntu site explaining how to use quickly and glade. When I follow it step by step I stopped when the instructor changed the style of the toolbar into a darker one
[08:05] <awaad> I found that the problem is that in my default template I found in the top (import gtk) and in his default template(from gi.repository import Gtk)
[08:05] <m3pow> hello blackshirt
[08:05] <m3pow> this to be more specific : https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1034164
[08:06] <timfrost> deffrag: there should be an option to start x11vnc as a server.  From the pastebin, it seems that it might have already been running (which may be because of the '-once', but I don't know for sure).  Yes, start a vnc client on the laptp
[08:06] <m3pow> i noticed 2 fixes,  one is to install a ppa that is given in that webpage or get the latest ver or unity 5.16
[08:06] <somsip> m3pow: can you not wait a few days until this is available in standard repos?
[08:07] <Squall5668> which is also the best thing to do
[08:07] <m3pow> i don't mind at all !
[08:07] <m3pow> :)
[08:07] <m3pow> just did not know it might come so fast
[08:07] <somsip> m3pow: that might be an easy solution. Or you have to enable proposed updates, which might bring in stuff you don't want
[08:08] <m3pow> and to install that ppa ?
[08:08] <somsip> !proposed | m3pow
[08:08] <m3pow> !proposed
[08:08] <somsip> Hmm didn't think so: Enabling the proposed updates repository can break your system. It is not recommended for inexperienced users.
[08:08] <tsimpson> !archives
[08:08] <tsimpson> hmm
[08:09] <tsimpson> !repositories | m3pow
[08:09] <somsip> m3pow: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Testing/EnableProposed
[08:10] <m3pow> thanks somsip
[08:10] <somsip> m3pow: you have been warned!
[08:12] <kong> <IP_ADDRESS> 63471 !managensis!
[08:12] <m3pow> i ain't doing anything mate, i'll just wait a couple more days that's all
[08:16] <MiteshShah> how to modify eth0 speed
[08:16] <MiteshShah> I'm used following command
[08:16] <MiteshShah> ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full
[08:16] <Mikato> czesc mowi ktos z moim jezyku?
[08:16] <MiteshShah> its works
[08:16] <MiteshShah> but ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full is not work
[08:16] <somsip> !pl | Mikato
[08:17] <wdp> hey, how can i remove ppa sources?
[08:17] <Mikato> jezuuuuuuu
[08:18] <somsip> wdp: cd /etc/apt/sources.lilst.d and delete them. Probably another way in GUI
[08:18] <wdp> terminal is fine.
[08:18] <somsip> *sources.list.d