[06:01] <Blue-Steel> apt-get
[06:01] <pulgoki> fiendskull9: im not a programmer at all
[06:02] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, i know some c++
[06:02] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: gawd no - if I want to compile I still have the option in Ubu
[06:02] <Blue-Steel> fiendskull9 he should ;)
[06:02] <Blue-Steel> Xenguy not the same .
[06:02] <Blue-Steel> not even close
[06:02] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, running gnome i use about 92 mb of ram in gentoo
[06:02] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, its so nice
[06:02] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, but i want it to have apt-get soo bad
[06:02] <Xenguy> Blue-Steel: I absolutely prefer binary vs compile
[06:03] <Blue-Steel> fiendskull9  u mean  binarys
[06:03] <rishi> fiendskull9: what does it have?
[06:03] <Blue-Steel> gentoo has some binaries too
[06:03] <fiendskull9> rishi, you choose what it has
[06:03] <pulgoki> the only thing im sad about unbuntu so far is the difficulty ive had getting samba to work.  I know it has to be the config somewhere but i had it running in freebsd in 15 minutes
[06:03] <Blue-Steel> much more to come  i would say
[06:03] <The_Answer> lol
[06:03] <fiendskull9> rishi, its certainly not a walk away install :P
[06:03] <The_Answer> I f'd it up I guess
[06:03] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: the point is you can do compile from source in Ubu/Debian if you want to
[06:03] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, i know.
[06:03] <Blue-Steel> not the same
[06:03] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, im not just talking packaging, im talking sherr performance
[06:03] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: but I've never really wanted to :-)
[06:04] <rishi> fiendskull9: yeah, i know firsthand, apparently i wasn't smart enough to install it, it effed up every time i tried, and i have no idea why
[06:04] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: it's just not worth the hassle IMHO\
[06:04] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: hmm samba worked very easily for me, not sure what isn't working for you, I used the howto on the samba site
[06:04] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, i can get around 4000 kbps from my t1 on a good server
[06:04] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: meh
[06:04] <Blue-Steel> check out in deep the use of flags when compiling
[06:04] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, yeah, it is everyones choice. but im just suggesting you try gentoo sometime
[06:05] <Xenguy> fiendskull9: no, not for me at all
[06:05] <fiendskull9> Xenguy, ok
[06:05] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, i wish slackware used grub tho
[06:06] <rishi> i kinda wish dapper had a sexier installer.
[06:06] <pulgoki> nickrud: did you just modify the config file that came with samba or create a new one?
[06:06] <ubuntu> Alguien me puede ayudar diciendome donde concigo un programa para television con Ubuntu=?
[06:06] <fiendskull9> pulgoki, it was a bitch tryin to get a slackware entry into grub.
[06:06] <pulgoki> er NickGarvey  i mean
[06:06] <useruser> !spanish
[06:06] <ubotu> useruser: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:06] <pulgoki> damn nick complete
[06:06] <pulgoki> :p
[06:06] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: modified one
[06:06] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, ohhh, steam is blazing now.
[06:07] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: I know very little samba
[06:07] <pulgoki> i dont really know it at all
[06:07] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: like almost none
[06:07] <fiendskull9> xephoN-cne2, it was taking 100 cpu up until 17% complete
[06:07] <pulgoki> but in freebsd it was super easy
[06:07] <pulgoki> not sure why its not working in ubuntu
[06:07] <NickGarvey> I need to find a good free bsd live cd..
[06:07] <pulgoki> my laptop see's the server
[06:07] <pulgoki> and shows the share
[06:07] <NickGarvey> !bsd
[06:07] <ubotu> NickGarvey: Wish I knew.  We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[06:07] <Xenguy> this is ubuntu fer chrisakes
[06:08] <NickGarvey> !tv
[06:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[06:08] <fiendskull9> rishi, i dunno about pre 1.6 cs installation
[06:08] <useruser> !spanish
[06:08] <ubotu> spanish is, like, Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:08] <NickGarvey> !tvcard
[06:08] <ubotu> NickGarvey: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:08] <fiendskull9> rishi, does it have the cd key on it?
[06:08] <rishi> yeah
[06:08] <fiendskull9> rishi, ok
[06:08] <fiendskull9> rishi, do you have aim or something of the sort?
[06:08] <rishi> i do as a matter of factly
[06:08] <rishi> trillian
[06:09] <fiendskull9> rishi, trillian on linux?
[06:09] <NickGarvey> does it work rishi?
[06:09] <rishi> nope...trill on winxp...on my laptop
[06:09] <fiendskull9> rishi, then you have aim
[06:09] <pulgoki> NickGarvey: http://www.freesbie.org/screenshots.html <==--  thats what i used to see if i would like freebsd
[06:09] <rishi> right
[06:09] <fiendskull9> rishi, lol, just sign in on gaim
[06:09] <pulgoki> i liked it untill i started trying to upgrade packages
[06:09] <Pump> hi, it's me again
[06:09] <pulgoki> and everything started crashing
[06:09] <fiendskull9> rishi, i can walk you through installing cs tommorow
[06:09] <NickGarvey> I have that cd but it doesn't work..
[06:10] <pulgoki> hmm
[06:10] <pulgoki> it worked great for me
[06:10] <pulgoki> on my laptop
[06:10] <pulgoki> and my pc
[06:10] <ubuntu> my tv card is a Leadtek
[06:10] <rishi> sweet
[06:10] <rishi> that would be great fiendskull9
[06:10] <fiendskull9> rishi, whats your aim sn?
[06:10] <Pump> friendskull9, i did dist-upgrade
[06:11] <Pump> but it just upgrade a few packages
[06:11] <NickGarvey> http://www.tv-cards.com/linux.php
[06:11] <fiendskull9> Pump, did u restart?
[06:11] <Pump> nope
[06:11] <h0nus> i'm having problems trying to install some packages after upgrade to breezy
[06:11] <fiendskull9> Pump, try restarting
[06:11] <Pump> and then upgrading?
[06:11] <NickGarvey> the old windows fall back, when in doubt, reboot!
[06:11] <fiendskull9> Pump, no, if u reboot, it should be dapper.
[06:11] <pulgoki> NickGarvey: when you setup your shares in samba, did you create a new user or just use your regular login account? and did you setup a  "guest" shared or ..?
[06:12] <Pump> but it upgrade a few packages
[06:12] <Pump> look
[06:12] <pulgoki> im thinking about trying a not secured guest share and see if it lets me connect to that
[06:12] <Pump> i have copied the list
[06:12] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: do you mean how did I access my linux computer from the windows?
[06:12] <pulgoki> yes
[06:12] <NickGarvey> pulgoki: I used the user names that were already made
[06:12] <Pump> base-config dhcp3-client dhcp3-common evince gnupg kdelibs-data libartsc0
[06:12] <Pump>   libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 libcairo2 libgksu1.2-0 libgnome2-canvas-perl
[06:12] <Pump>   libnautilus-extension1 libwine linux-headers-2.6.12-10
[06:12] <Pump>   linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[06:12] <Pump>   linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 locales login nautilus nautilus-data passwd
[06:12] <Pump>   python-gnome2-extras python2.4-gnome2-extras wine
[06:12] <NickGarvey> !paste
[06:12] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:12] <Pump> that's what it upgrade
[06:12] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, the old windows fall back, when in doubt, error report! then get a virus, try to remove virus, and get another. email microsoft, they tell you to reboot, you reboot, and you get blue screen!
[06:12] <NickGarvey> :-D
[06:12] <arrick> ok, I have loaded gnome, how do I install printers here?
[06:12] <NickGarvey> !cups
[06:12] <ubotu> well, cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[06:13] <NickGarvey> and thats where my knowledge of printers stop
[06:13] <Pump> i think that what i pasted didn't appeared, had it?
[06:13] <Pump> base-config dhcp3-client dhcp3-common evince gnupg kdelibs-data libartsc0
[06:13] <Pump>   libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 libcairo2 libgksu1.2-0 libgnome2-canvas-perl
[06:13] <Pump>   libnautilus-extension1 libwine linux-headers-2.6.12-10
[06:13] <Pump>   linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[06:13] <Pump>   linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 locales login nautilus nautilus-data passwd
[06:13] <Pump>   python-gnome2-extras python2.4-gnome2-extras wine
[06:13] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, they say if you play a windows cd backwards, it has the voice of satan telling you to kill the pope, but thats not near as bad when you play it forward!
[06:13] <NickGarvey> PUMP STOP
[06:13] <NickGarvey> !tell pump about paste
[06:13] <Pump> sorry
[06:13] <arrick> NickGarvey, thats why I am here, to find the right info
[06:13] <NickGarvey> haha nice fiendskull9
[06:13] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, CUP is the common unix printing system
[06:13] <NickGarvey> arrick: try the linux?
[06:13] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, if he has usb, then it wont work
[06:14] <NickGarvey> link*
[06:14] <NickGarvey> oh, is it usb?
[06:14] <NickGarvey> didn't see
[06:14] <arrick> yeah
[06:14] <NickGarvey> I give up then
[06:14] <arrick> hahah
[06:14] <Pump> fiendskull9, can i paste the list of the packages which it upgrade by private message?
[06:14] <NickGarvey> PuMp: did you read what it said? use pastebin
[06:14] <NickGarvey> PuMp: good resource
[06:14] <arrick> I loaded gnome cause all the tutorial say .
[06:14] <fiendskull9> !tell Pump about paste
[06:15] <NickGarvey> !printers
[06:15] <ubotu> it has been said that printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:15] <NickGarvey> hurray
[06:15] <arrick> >system>admin>printers, and all say in gnome, so I load and no such animal
[06:15] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, lol
[06:15] <h0nus> can anyone help me with postfix?
[06:15] <Caike> Can anyone help me with some LDAP + PhpLdapAdmin issues ?
[06:15] <Pump> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10890
[06:15] <NickGarvey> h0nus: I can try, what do you need?
[06:15] <wyrless2002> can you explain the usb/printer thing? why doesn't it work, short version?
[06:15] <fiendskull9> Pump, lemme take a lookey
[06:15] <NickGarvey> h0nus: I have a mail server but its garbage heh
[06:15] <Pump> sorry about the flood
[06:15] <Pump> i won't do it again
[06:15] <NickGarvey> its ok, you know better now
[06:16] <twirpie> im having problems installing clamav the antivirus package.... anyone help? do i really need it?
[06:16] <NickGarvey> I did the same thing when I first got in here
[06:16] <arrick> wyrless2002: what version do you have?
[06:16] <arrick> printer
[06:16] <wyrless2002> breezy
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> twirpie,  you scanning for windows viruses?
[06:16] <h0nus> NickGarvey: i upgraded from hoary to breezy recently, and i am having trouble with the installation of other packages now
[06:16] <fiendskull9> !tell Pump about dist-upgrade
[06:16] <arrick> the printer
[06:16] <twirpie> no why?
[06:16] <fiendskull9> !upgrade
[06:16] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[06:16] <wyrless2002> sorry, it's Lexmark P3150.
[06:16] <root> hey all
[06:16] <root> im having some troubles
[06:17] <arrick> hang on a minute
[06:17] <wyrless2002> TY
[06:17] <root> i got a new monitor for my comp, and when it goes to the login screen I cant see anything
[06:17] <NickGarvey> root: don't log onto irc in root, bad idea
[06:17] <root> so now im in recovery mode
[06:17] <NickGarvey> security issue, log in as a user
[06:17] <root> how do I do that from console?
[06:17] <fiendskull9> !screen-resolution
[06:17] <ubotu> fiendskull9: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:17] <wyrless2002> everything I've read alludes to the fact that Lexmark + Linux = bad.
[06:17] <rishi> hey what is LVM
[06:17] <NickGarvey> su <user>
[06:17] <h0nus> NickGarvey: i am running into issues with all of the following--
[06:17] <NickGarvey> low value manager
[06:17] <h0nus>  postfix
[06:17] <h0nus>  mailx
[06:17] <h0nus>  mutt
[06:17] <h0nus>  lsb-core
[06:17] <h0nus>  lsb-graphics
[06:17] <root> quit
[06:17] <h0nus>  lsb-cxx
[06:18] <h0nus>  lsb
[06:18] <rishi> and should i use LVM, or should i just erase
[06:18] <NickGarvey> !lvm
[06:18] <ubotu> I heard lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[06:18] <NickGarvey> !paste
[06:18] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:18] <fiendskull9> h0nus, stop it
[06:18] <dejan_> my wlan wound work
[06:18] <h0nus> sorry, was supposed to be 1 line lol
[06:18] <twirpie> im having problems installing clamav the antivirus package.... anyone help? do i really need it?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> h0nus: whats wrong with those?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> twirpie: what do you need antivirus for?
[06:18] <Madpilot> twirpie, you don't really need it...
[06:18] <NickGarvey> I mean I guess better safe than sorry...
[06:18] <dejan_> i can not connect
[06:18] <h0nus> NickGarvey: shall i pastebin the whole thing?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> but its like putting a chain on a thousand pound safebox
[06:19] <dejan_> dmesg tould me
[06:19] <NickGarvey> h0nus: yeah
[06:19] <twirpie> k thanks ill skip it then
[06:19] <fiendskull9> twirpie, try sudo apt-get install fprot
[06:19] <fiendskull9> twirpie, much better a-virus
[06:19] <rishi> i'm not going to use it
[06:19] <rishi> stupid LVM
[06:19] <jbritz22> ok im back
[06:19] <fiendskull9> !tell twirpie about f-prot
[06:19] <dejan_> ipw2200: failed to send WEP_KEY command
[06:19] <arrick> large volume manager
[06:19] <Blue-Steel> !tell Blue-Steel about f-prot
[06:19] <NickGarvey> !f-prot
[06:19] <ubotu> NickGarvey: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:19] <fiendskull9> !f-prot
[06:19] <NickGarvey> I beat you
[06:19] <jbritz22> now, for my troubles, as I said earlier, i got a new monitor, but it doesnt work, the login screen is just black, if I press space I can still here sounds...anyone tell me what to do?
[06:19] <fiendskull9> !f-prot
[06:20] <ubuntu> eh hi
[06:20] <ubuntu> how did i get here
[06:20] <NickGarvey> jbritz22: did you go to the link?
[06:20] <fiendskull9> ubuntu, you launched xirc
[06:20] <jbritz22> im in recovery mode
[06:20] <ubuntu> i was just trying to figure out how to install limewire
[06:20] <arrick> wyrless2002: do a google on that printer, you might get lucky, and find a driver that is compatible.
[06:20] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, try typing - startx
[06:20] <ubuntu> then it went here
[06:20] <NickGarvey> !limewire
[06:20] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[06:21] <chance2105> I have a friend who's writing a paper in Openoffice on his Ubuntu box.  It's in Spanish.  Is there anything special that needs to be installed (everything being in English)?
[06:21] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, ill help him, im exspierenced in the limewire linux field :P
[06:21] <ubuntu> java?
[06:21] <twirpie> fiendskull it says can find the package
[06:21] <wyrless2002> TY arrick.
[06:21] <ubuntu> im new to this
[06:21] <arrick> wyrless2002: mine is a lexmark x6170 and I had given up hope, but the driver is the same as the z600, so I got it working
[06:21] <fiendskull9> ubuntu, look at the bottom of xirc, click the red button
[06:21] <Madpilot> !tell ubuntu about java
[06:21] <arrick> you also need to install and mount the USB file system
[06:21] <fiendskull9> arrick, he can also modprobe <device name>
[06:21] <arrick> wyrless2002: yeah
[06:21] <ian_> Anyone know how I can use .rpm files with ubuntu?  I just installed it yesterday and thus far love it.  Unfortunately I need some things that come as .rpm packages.
[06:22] <fiendskull9> arrick, nvm, modprobe is drivers
[06:22] <NickGarvey> !alien
[06:22] <Pump> fiendskull9, now on the update-manager i have the option of upgrading to dapper :D
[06:22] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:22] <fiendskull9> ian_, does the page also have .deb files?
[06:22] <arrick> wish I had known that 2 days ago, so I could have done it
[06:22] <wyrless2002> it connects, kicks the paper feed, and comes up on the print mon. on XP but then del.
[06:22] <h0nus> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10891
[06:23] <NickGarvey> ian_: they might just have the tar file which you could compile
[06:23] <h0nus> NickGarvey: ran into this problem trying to install amsn
[06:23] <Tranthom> hi there... i'm a new linux user (2 days) and i know that latest version of ubuntu have a VNC server running but I can't find a way to change port. can someone help me please?
[06:23] <ian_> Fiend, they're games that I've DL'd (like when I was using <chocke> XP, they'd have been zip files)...
[06:23] <fiendskull9> h0nus, sudo apt-get install amsn, lol.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  i dont think the vnc server is running by default
[06:23] <fiendskull9> ian_, are they legal games?   They're ones covered under the GNU(?)....Like BzTank (I think that's the name).
[06:24] <h0nus> NickGarvey: what is debfoster?
[06:24] <xerophyte> does anybody know why am i getting error message
[06:24] <xerophyte> sda: Write Protect is off ??
[06:24] <NickGarvey> !debfoster
[06:24] <ubotu> [debfoster]  A command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2440
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  vnc is a very piowerfull program. and has ooodles of things ya can twiddle. depending  on how you are using it.
[06:24] <fiendskull9> ian_, well, take for instance, the game uis called cube. do sudo apt-get install cube
[06:24] <ian_> Fiend: Like I said, I'm new and compiling is the #1 thing I want to learn.  Kinda necessary. ;)
[06:25] <rishi> haha twiddle
[06:25] <fiendskull9> ian_, please use all my sn
[06:25] <NickGarvey> that forum link is very wrong it seems
[06:25] <fiendskull9> !tell ian_ about compiling
[06:25] <ian_> Fiendskull9: Like this?
[06:25] <NickGarvey> ian_: ha I have not compiled anything at all during ubuntu
[06:25] <NickGarvey> ian_: because it terrifies me ;)
[06:25] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: i know how to use it. i did use it for years on windows. Y just want to be able to change port for managing few computers on a router default port is already in use by another computer
[06:25] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, ah, pussy :P
[06:25] <jbritz22> ok so startx doesnt work
[06:25] <ian_> NickGarvey: Me too.  I need to find a N00b readme on compiling.
[06:25] <h0nus> NickGarvey: what is debfoster?
[06:26] <jbritz22> so what should I do with this non-monritor working issue
[06:26] <fiendskull9> ian_, did you get mah damn dialog message?
[06:26] <rishi> ian_: i need to find a N00b readme on ubuntu...so i know how you feel.
[06:26] <NickGarvey> !tell h0nus about debfoster
[06:26] <NickGarvey> !noob
[06:26] <ubotu> from memory, noob is a four letter word, just like rtfm or jfgi. Don't use it
[06:26] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, gimme a sec.
[06:26] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: can you tell me where I can change this setting please?
[06:26] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: sweet
[06:26] <fiendskull9> damnit
[06:26] <NickGarvey> heh, anyway, the ubuntu site is good
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  i would look in the vncsever script for a start.
[06:27] <ian_> fiendskull9: I'm uncertain what you mean?  And is there a bot on here that runs info?  I'm also new to IRC.
[06:27] <NickGarvey> !bot
[06:27] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:27] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: since i'm a noob at linux I don't even know where is that. can you guide me please?
[06:27] <ubuntu> im back
[06:27] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, will you google somethin for me real quick, im updating steam in wine, and its taking alot of system load.
[06:27] <arrick> Dr_Willis: I have folloed all of your advice in the past, I know you can help me, please????
[06:27] <ubuntu> im trying to install ubuntu on my system but i keep getting some bootstrap error
[06:28] <rishi> bootstrap?
[06:28] <arrick> Dr_Willis: I loaded the gnome, and need to know how to add printers in the gui
[06:28] <NickGarvey> fiendskull9: okie, so.. "steam wine system load"
[06:28] <NickGarvey> ?
[06:28] <twirpie> does ubuntu clear cookies and tmp files automaticly or do i have to do it? if so how?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  its the 'vncserver' command  - its a script. read it - it has oodles of default settings you can change from config files or command line.
[06:28] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, google "how to change screen resolution for ubuntu in terminal"
[06:28] <ubuntu> i dont know how to do it
[06:28] <Tranthom> change the strap then... it must been loose over the years :) lol
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  theres a menu item for printer configuration
[06:28] <ubuntu> lol
[06:28] <rishi> wtf is a bootstrap error?
[06:28] <ubuntu> i have tried two different hd
[06:28] <NickGarvey> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[06:28] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: i will
[06:28] <fiendskull9> twirpie, step 1, stop looking a porn :P
[06:28] <ubuntu> and still wont install
[06:28] <fiendskull9> !bootstrap
[06:28] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[06:28] <arrick> I tried by going to http://localhost:631, and it didnt let me in, admin was denied
[06:28] <twirpie> lol
[06:28] <Tranthom> Dr_Willis: thanks
[06:29] <rishi> fiendskull9:  hahaha. ZING!
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Tranthom,  just 'using' vnc under windows - means yuve scratched the surface of it. Lol.
[06:29] <ian_> What is Ubotu?
[06:29] <pulgoki> is there a real good usenet reader for linux or do people just use thunderbird or the likes?
[06:29] <NickGarvey> !bot
[06:29] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:29] <arrick> Dr_willis: should be 'system>admin>printers, but its not there
[06:29] <Goldfisch> Ubotu is everything I ever wanted!
[06:29] <ubotu> Goldfisch: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:30] <ubuntu> so no one knows what a bootstrap error is?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  i would guess you dont have some packages installed that you need.
[06:30] <Goldfisch> !botsnack
[06:30] <ubotu> thanks goldfisch :)
[06:30] <twirpie> mkay seriously lol does ubuntu clear cookies and tmp files automaticly or do i have to do it? if so how?
[06:30] <arrick> happen to know which ones?
[06:30] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: any luck?
[06:30] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, im lookin
[06:30] <arrick> !packages
[06:30] <ubotu> I heard packages is You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com .  It also has a nifty file search feature.
[06:30] <JAyRULE> how do you get ubuntu to recognize my pc's floppy drive?
[06:30] <ian_> .rpm
[06:30] <rishi> booyah!
[06:31] <ubuntu> humm
[06:31] <rishi> kakashi sensei!
[06:31] <ian_> !.rpm
[06:31] <ubotu> ian_: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:31] <NickGarvey> !rpm
[06:31] <ubotu> rpm is, like, totally, the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[06:32] <jbritz22> ok, while fiendskulls looking, anyone else know how to fix my monitor, I just got a new one today , hooked it up, and it doesnt work in normal mode
[06:32] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, yay! command - xrandr -s 1024x768
[06:32] <ian_> !alien
[06:32] <ubotu> alien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> twirpie,  that 'feature' has nothing to do with 'ubuntu' but the browser. :P and yes firefox can do it - i belive
[06:32] <ubuntu> ?
[06:32] <jbritz22> fiendskull19: what do I do after I type that
[06:32] <rishi> ubuntu
[06:32] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, thatll bring you res down low, so when u boot, change it to desired in the gui
[06:32] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, just reboot
[06:32] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, see if u can get login
[06:32] <rishi> ubuntu: go into the options and just delete the cookies man
[06:32] <ian_> I -love- ubotu!
[06:32] <ubuntu> i think that i will just go back to xp
[06:32] <sethrd> So, I got the artwiz fonts from Synaptic, but the fonts don't show up in my fonts list. I've rebooted, I've logged out, I've killed X, but they don't show up. How do I get them useable?
[06:32] <ubuntu> this is too much
[06:33] <FlannelKing> ian_: usually you can find what you want in the repositories though
[06:33] <twirpie> how do i get ubuntu to reconize things like cd roms hard drives and such?
[06:33] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: ok ill try that and get back to ya
[06:33] <fiendskull9> ubuntu, never ever ever ever ever ever say that!
[06:33] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: friends don't let friends do windows
[06:33] <ian_> ubuntu: Don't go back to XP!  It's worth it to learn!  I'm a n00b too!
[06:33] <twirpie> lmao
[06:33] <TheFaction20> lmao
[06:34] <TheFaction20> a lil late
[06:34] <fiendskull9> !windows
[06:34] <TheFaction20> he already gave up
[06:34] <ubotu> fiendskull9: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:34] <fiendskull9> lol
[06:34] <fiendskull9> !bill gates
[06:34] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[06:34] <TheFaction20> !satan
[06:34] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, TheFaction20
[06:34] <ian_> FlannelKing: Could you point me in that direction?
[06:34] <dle> Hi. Does breezy install an MTA by default in a desktop install?
[06:34] <ian_> FlannelKing: Maybe a link?
[06:34] <twirpie> how do i get ubuntu to reconize things like cd roms hard drives and such?
[06:34] <fiendskull9> dle, mta?
[06:34] <rishi> ubuntu: you deleting your temp files and cookies and porn is nothing to do with ubuntu...you're browser does it
[06:35] <dle> Mail Transfer Agent.
[06:35] <fiendskull9> dle, yes
[06:35] <ian_> General Question:  Anyone know if I should stay with Ubuntu or switch to RH?
[06:35] <fiendskull9> dle, and you can dl firebirs
[06:35] <fiendskull9> *firebird
[06:35] <xerophyte> enterprise edition ?? where can i find it ??
[06:35] <dle> fiendskull9: postfix, is it?
[06:35] <rishi> ian_: the new enterprise edition doesn't come out till like sept
[06:35] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: it says "cant open display (null)"
[06:35] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, shit
[06:36] <twirpie> fiendskull9 ???
[06:36] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, try typing startx
[06:36] <FlannelKing> ian_: synaptic.  system > administration > Synaptic Package MAnager.  You might have to enable extra repositories.  You cna also search online at packages.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: already tried, just stays black and I have to restart
[06:36] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, i dunno man
[06:36] <jbritz22> ill ask everyone again
[06:36] <tristanmike> fiendskull9: please watch the language in here, there can be children present
[06:36] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, try reinstalling ubuntu?
[06:36] <jbritz22> fiendskull9: bno way
[06:36] <h0nus> NickGarvey: is debfoster already installed with breezy, or do i need to apt-get it?
[06:36] <NickGarvey> h0nus: apt-get away my friend
[06:37] <rishi> anyone running dapper here with xgl?
[06:37] <tristanmike> !dapper
[06:37] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:37] <fiendskull9> rishi, no, but i want too :P
[06:37] <jbritz22> ok, anyone, i bought a new monitor today, my old one works, but when I get to the login screen of ubuntu, it turns black, ubuntus still working cause I can still here it,
[06:37] <ian_> FlannelKing: Thank you!
[06:37] <rishi> fiendskull9: lets make it happen
[06:37] <arrick> What packages do i need to install printers in gnome?
[06:37] <fiendskull9> arrick, just do the printer manager
[06:38] <twirpie> how do i get ubuntu to reconize things like cd roms hard drives and such?
[06:38] <fiendskull9> arrick, system | administration | printing
[06:38] <fiendskull9> twirpie, it should automatically
[06:38] <jbritz22> can anyone help me
[06:38] <fiendskull9> twirpie, are u wanting to read another HDD partition?
[06:38] <twirpie> well i can use them but it doesnt see them.... make any sense?
[06:38] <h0nus> NickGarvey: every time i apt-get i get the pastebin i sent you
[06:38] <NickGarvey> jbritz22: I'd say google is your best, look for you particular product number
[06:38] <NickGarvey> h0nus: should still get the program..
[06:38] <ian_> General: Thank you everyone for your help.  I love linux and I love the community.  I'm so very glad I converted from MicroScr*w.
[06:38] <jbritz22> NickGarvey: i cant get on google....
[06:39] <NickGarvey> h0nus: should just flip out in the process
[06:39] <phenex> is there a way to install all the alsa stuff by one package?
[06:39] <arrick> friendskull9: its not there for some reason
[06:39] <jbritz22> im sure someone can help me...XD
[06:39] <NickGarvey> jbritz22: maybe a kanotix boot cd would help
[06:39] <fiendskull9> arrick, fiend, lol. hmmmmmmm
[06:39] <rishi> hahahaha
[06:39] <fiendskull9> jbritz22, i dunno man, really. its a first time hearing about this.
[06:39] <TheFaction20> ian_:i know how u feel im already liking linux. its like u can rest assured that when u hop on here ull get help
[06:40] <rishi> fiendskull9: dude, its hard...immediately the mind puts the r there, you know? :)
[06:40] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, ubuntu does have the best irc channel.
[06:40] <jbritz22> NickGarvey: isnt there a way to make it scan and find new hardware...eek windows is looking good
[06:40] <arrick> yeah, How do I seperate the gnome and xubuntu guis?
[06:40] <MistaED> hey does anyone know if it's possible to run twain drivers under wine for scanners unsupported by sane?
[06:40] <fiendskull9> rishi, fie <tab>
[06:40] <arrick> might be a problem here
[06:40] <twirpie> welp i need to go pack a bowl before it gets too late :)~
[06:40] <ian_> TheFaction20: Amen.  Still not sure if I'm running the right Dist for me though.
[06:40] <h0nus> NickGarvey: ok i'm not sure what i should be keeping
[06:40] <rishi> fiendskull9: WOAH
[06:40] <rishi> fiendskull9: NO WAY
[06:40] <h0nus> NickGarvey: what is alien?
[06:40] <conga> wow
[06:40] <conga> ubuntu is growing eh
[06:40] <fiendskull9> arrick, when u start, at the login, click sessions then xubuntu.
[06:40] <rishi> fiendskull9: this is the greatest invention ever man
[06:40] <NickGarvey> !alien
[06:40] <ubotu> well, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:40] <arrick> I hit startx, and it says gnome is loading, and then it shows xfce on the desktop
[06:40] <ian_> TheFaction20: I'm curious about the others, but why mess with a good thing.
[06:40] <fiendskull9> rishi, it works in everything
[06:40] <h0nus> !alien
[06:41] <fiendskull9> rishi, if your in terminal and u have to do a long dir name
[06:41] <arrick> I didnt get a gui login
[06:41] <arrick> brb
[06:41] <JAyRULE> i installed ubuntu earlier today and it doesn;t recognize an ethernet card... i figured i could edit it in the device manager, but... i figured wrong haa... how can i get around this?
[06:41] <fiendskull9> rishi, like Monkeys eat poo, instead of cd Monkeys\ eat\ poo, just do cd Monkey <tab>
[06:41] <ian_> h0nus: type !alien in this screen.
[06:41] <h0nus> !alien
[06:41] <ubotu> alien is probably a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:41] <TheFaction20> ian_:yeah... i hear u. i heard this was a good starting and even good advanced distro and it was free so not gonna argue. but i might be getting a linux book with other distros on an included disc so who knows
[06:41] <h0nus> ian_: so prolly ok to clean out?
[06:41] <NickGarvey> TheFaction20: do not get linux for dummies!
[06:41] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, Get the linux bible 2005 edition.
[06:42] <ian_> h0nus: Read what Ubotu says to you.
[06:42] <NickGarvey> TheFaction20: its a weak book that covers little!
[06:42] <TheFaction20> nickgarvey:yeah i wasnt looking at that
[06:42] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, i got the linux bible, and i loved it,
[06:42] <fiendskull9> NickGarvey, plus it came with fedora 3, which i use on my server :)
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> fiendskull9: How much is that?
[06:42] <Blue-Steel> !tell Blue-Steel about gnome
[06:42] <JAyRULE> anyone?
[06:42] <NickGarvey> fiendskull9: mm so did linux for dummies
[06:42] <TheFaction20> fiendskull9:i think thats what i was looking at the other day. not sure tho.  what do u guys think about the linux pocket guide?
[06:43] <h0nus> !xpdf
[06:43] <ubotu> h0nus: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:43] <ian_> TheFaction20: Me too.  Gonna go get some books, some cd's...play around.  Also have access to lots of hard-drives, so I might multi-boot.
[06:43] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: sure it doesn't see the card?
[06:43] <fiendskull9> TheFaction20, you need knowledge of linux for the LPG, lol.
[06:43] <Blue-Steel> what is the name  of the package  that installs  the fll gnome ? gnome-bin ?
[06:43] <rishi> ian_, TheFaction20: i've tried a lot of others...ubuntu is the best
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> TheFaction20: That the one geared toward Fedora?  I have that.
[06:43] <rishi> everythign else is s#!t
[06:43] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: no
[06:43] <fiendskull9> ian_, be careful, some distros use LILO, which will overwrite grub, making other grub induced distros in acsessible
[06:43] <fiendskull9> !tell ian_ about LILO
[06:43] <fiendskull9> !tell ian_ about lilo
[06:43] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: you are not sure, or no it doesn't
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> rishi lacks of many pacages available on gentoo for example. have u tried knoppix ?
[06:44] <fiendskull9> ah
[06:44] <ian_> rishi: Thanks for the input.  There's nothing wrong with ubuntu and lots very right...likely to stay with it.
[06:44] <bimberi> TheFaction20: the LPG is good for the experienced but forgetful :)
[06:44] <fiendskull9> rishi, gentoo owns all, frankly. but it would make it even beter with apt-get
[06:44] <h0nus> NickGarvey: if i have upgraded to linux 2.6.10-6-386 or later, do i need 2.6.10-5-386?
[06:44] <ian_> h0nus: Did I miss your ?
[06:44] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: me, i dont know.  but my bro looked at the "device manager" and did not see it installed... (i installed ubuntu on his old pc)
[06:45] <gza> hi
[06:45] <fiendskull9> Hey guys
[06:45] <h0nus> ian_: no =)
[06:45] <fiendskull9> i have to sleep
[06:45] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: go into console and type "ifconfig"
[06:45] <fiendskull9> ill cya all later
[06:45] <NickGarvey> night fiendskull9
[06:45] <rishi> i have tried gentoo, kororaa live, fedora 5, and one other i can't remember
[06:45] <fiendskull9> rishi, whats your aim damnit!?
[06:45] <Blue-Steel> so no one knows
[06:45] <Blue-Steel> ok....
[06:45] <rishi> i din't like any of them
[06:45] <gza> Is there a floppy/network install available for Ubuntu? i.e. 1 floppy to boot and install the rest via FTP?
[06:45] <TheFaction20> i was thinking of picking it up in addition to the linux bible
[06:45] <rishi> fiendskull9: i msged you it, did you not get it?
[06:45] <ian_> h0nus: I came here to find out about .rpm conversion as well.  Gonna use alien and see how it goes.
[06:45] <fiendskull9> rishi, nope
[06:46] <TheFaction20> not in place of it
[06:46] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: okay... what am i looking for?
[06:46] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: know how pastebin works?
[06:46] <ian_> General uestion: Is there a good reason for me -not- to use Alien?
[06:46] <h0nus> ian_: if i have upgraded to linux 2.6.10-6-386 or later, do i need 2.6.10-5-386?
[06:46] <rishi> the closest to ubuntu was fedora 5 though...great distro
[06:46] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: sorry... kind of a newb
[06:46] <crimsun> h0nus: no
[06:46] <fiendskull9> h0nus, do u mean the kernel?
[06:46] <NickGarvey> ian_: read what it said, you can mess things up
[06:46] <ian_> h0nus: I'm a n00b too man.  Don't know the answer to that.
[06:46] <NickGarvey> !tell JAyRULE about pastebin
[06:46] <fiendskull9> rishi, i think fedora 5 isnt out :P you mean fedora 4?
[06:47] <h0nus> ian_: np
[06:47] <newbie2all> can anybody plz tell me wat sun-rpc portmap is theres alot of connections from it coming up on my firewall
[06:47] <NickGarvey> !portmap
[06:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[06:47] <h0nus> fiendskull9: it's a boot option that's all i know
[06:47] <fiendskull9> rishi, actually, Debian GNU is the closest to ubuntu. as its what ubuntu was built over.
[06:47] <NickGarvey> eh
[06:47] <ian_> NickGarvey: Is there an alternative to alien that is less likely?
[06:47] <fiendskull9> h0nus, hmm, leave it there anywhere
[06:47] <NickGarvey> ian_: not as far as I know, Id just compile from source if I needed
[06:47] <h0nus> ok
[06:47] <fiendskull9> rishi, tell me your aim sn or ill eat your soul
[06:48] <ian_> NickGarvey: I have no idea how to compile.  I'm learning on my own so far...
[06:48] <rishi> fiendskull9: no by closest to ubuntu i mean the next best that i thought compared to ubuntu was fedora 5
[06:48] <fiendskull9> !tell ian_ about compiling
[06:48] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: you want me to post what i see on that website?
[06:48] <ian_> !compiling
[06:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[06:48] <fiendskull9> rishi, alright, now tell me your aim sn!
[06:48] <rishi> and i'm talking about fedora 5 test flight 3
[06:49] <rishi> fiendskull9: you just imed me!
[06:49] <rishi> i'm talking to you
[06:49] <fiendskull9> rishi, no your not
[06:49] <rishi> oh
[06:49] <fiendskull9> rishi, on aim?
[06:49] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: no, you paste what "ifconfig" spits on your screen into that website, and give me the link it makes
[06:49] <fiendskull9> rishi, lol, you never told me your sn!
[06:50] <ian_> One more Question: Is there a good place to get games (legally) for Linux?  I miss being able to play games that were playable on XP.  I won't go back even if I can't play them.
[06:50] <rishi> fiendskull9: my bad...trillians got me all weird...i just sent it to you via that message you had sent me
[06:50] <NickGarvey> !games
[06:50] <ubotu> well, games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[06:50] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: okay.... ill be a couple min ... my floppy drive doesnt work either
[06:50] <fiendskull9> ian_, UT2004 works on linux, and its like 30 bucks
[06:50] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: (so i cant output to file)
[06:50] <NickGarvey> ian_: theres a lot of good games and many windows games can be used using cegora (sp) and wine
[06:50] <rishi> fiendskull9: did it work this time?
[06:50] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: why not? ifconfig > file.txt
[06:50] <fiendskull9> rishi, my aim sn is atleebass
[06:51] <fiendskull9> rishi, hurry up and im me, i have to go
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> dosbox and your good old DOS gamaes - is run
[06:51] <driggers> anyone know how to sync a motorola razr v3 to ubuntu via usb?
[06:51] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: yeah.. but i cant get it to another pc
[06:51] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: ...since floppy doesnt work either...
[06:51] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: ah ha
[06:51] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: okie
[06:51] <ian_> NickGarvey: I'm running a ~750MhZ P3 and 384 of RAM...I'm afraid to use WINE lest my computer die.    NO social life if you do.
[06:54] <rishi> ian_: for real?  shit, i need girls and beer more
[06:54] <ian_> rishi: Much like EverCrack.  (spits on both games)
[06:54] <NickGarvey> h0nus: try to get rid of things that are locking those in
[06:55] <NickGarvey> h0nus: maybe apt-get install sendmail
[06:55] <rishi> hahaha
[06:55] <NickGarvey> ian_: http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php/20040419200456201
[06:55] <rishi> ian_: besides, i think i am more the "see a badguy, shoot him in the face" type of gamer...although c&c is a lot of fun...i liked tiberian sun alot, even though it was pretty one sided
[06:55] <sinaduel> hello, I need help, I have a GeForce FX 5200, it has a video out cable that connects to a TV how do I make it display?
[06:56] <arrick>  I need to get rid of xubunto so gnome will run by itself, how?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  no you dont need to get rid of it.
[06:56] <ubuntu> hi
[06:56] <rishi> arrick: just start gdm instead of kdm right?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  you can install gnome-desktop and ubuntu-desktop and even kubuntu-desktop - then pick what to use at login time
[06:57] <ian_> NickGarvey and Rishi and FlannelKing and Everyone else:  Thanks for your help.. I'll likely be back after I try these suggestions and such.  Have a lot of reading ahead of me.  Good night.
[06:57] <xbmodder_lappy> hey
[06:57] <NickGarvey> night ian_
[06:57] <arrick> Dr_willis: how do I pick, it automatically starts xubuntu when I type startx
[06:57] <rishi> ian_ no prob man
[06:57] <arrick> thats what someone told me earlier
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> What's the difference {g,k,x}dm ?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  you use the GDM login manager.. is how. :P
[06:57] <ian_> <waves goodnight and poofs>
[06:57] <rishi> Dr_Willis: whats ubuntu desktop
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  or make a .xinitrc that will start what you want.
[06:57] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: just what screen you get when it boots
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey: How do the screens differ?
[06:58] <arrick> which is what?
[06:58] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10893
[06:58] <arrick> how do I get to the GDM Login Manager?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  meta-package for some of the ubuntu stuff..  :P has some extra gnome-utils in it as well I think
[06:58] <h0nus> does anyone know the full package name for sapr3 module?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  sudo gdm     is one way
[06:58] <h0nus> i can't seem to apt-get it
[06:58] <xbmodder_lappy>  hey everyone, run this benchmark: glx`echo ez -es / |tr A-Za-z N-ZA-Mn-za-m`gears
[06:58] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gdm
[06:58] <arrick> ok thanks
[06:58] <h0nus> !sapr3
[06:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h0nus
[06:58] <xbmodder_lappy> I wanna see what you guys get
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  normally the system should boot to a login manager.
[06:58] <rishi> Dr_Willis: i don't know what that means, but i will try?
[06:58] <rishi> haha
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey: Ah, looks good.
[06:59] <arrick> it boots to the server, then I have to start the gui
[06:59] <rishi> tonyyarusso: they are just like diferent looks man
[06:59] <xbmodder_lappy> anyone got results?
[06:59] <rishi> that's the best way to explain them i guess, haha.
[06:59] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: yup it doesnt see it, make sure its seated in the pci slot well
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  if you install kiubuntu, or xubuntu, you may have to install  ubuntu-desktop for some of the little tools. :P
[06:59] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: well... it was running fine under windows 98
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  the different desktops are differnt programs/desktiop enviroments. :P
[06:59] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: have the driver for it?
[07:00] <rishi> i have good old regular ubuntu...so i guess i have the tools?
[07:00] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: although eth0 has worked out of the box for me normally
[07:00] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: ummmm.... id have to ask my bro..since it was his...
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  yep - its allready installed then
[07:00] <NickGarvey> mm I need to go shortly, have a 400 pg book to ready in 6 hours
[07:00] <rishi> Dr_Willis: right...like how kde has konquere and whatnot
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  yep.
[07:00] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: what if i dont have the driver?
[07:00] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: download it
[07:01] <NickGarvey> JAyRULE: although you might try to move it to a different pci slot
[07:01] <rishi> i think its gay that after i install windows, its going to fry GRUB and i have to reinstall it
[07:01] <NickGarvey> !gay
[07:01] <NickGarvey> !grub
[07:01] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:01] <ABCD> I can't get sound to work in a more-or-less vanilla Breezy install
[07:01] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: damn... how do i get my flopy drive running?
[07:01] <NickGarvey> aw it PMs me instead
[07:01] <NickGarvey> !floppy
[07:01] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[07:01] <arrick> man, I like being able to run two gui at the same time
[07:01] <ladofnod> two parter: can i simply plugin a pci card to "install" it with ubuntu (ie recognize it right away) and what kind software would i need to use for a pci tv tuner card?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> rishi,  - write a letter to Bill Gates!
[07:02] <rishi> Dr_Willis: oh believe me, he's on my bad list
[07:02] <NickGarvey> ladofnod: http://www.tv-cards.com/linux.php
[07:02] <nomasteryoda|w> fecal roster
[07:02] <JAyRULE> NickGarvey: k thanks!!! ill give that a go
[07:02] <nomasteryoda|w> :=
[07:02] <ladofnod> word
[07:02] <ladofnod> thanks
[07:02] <NickGarvey> :) night guys
[07:02] <rishi> peace homie
[07:03] <rishi> okay, i have a question.  I have an old ass hauppauge wintv card...can i make it work in linux?
[07:04] <DBO> what card rishi?
[07:05] <DBO> PVR-250?
[07:05] <ozzloy> hitting 'www' no longer opens firefox, and links in other apps don't open in ff either.  how do i fix that?
[07:05] <rishi> haha...no...lemme check real quick DBO
[07:05] <h0nus> !libssh
[07:05] <ubotu> h0nus: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:05] <esc_ape> ozzloy - system>preferences>preferred apps
[07:06] <esc_ape> webbrowser firefox
[07:06] <h0nus> !lpq
[07:06] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, h0nus
[07:06] <rishi> DBO: i am pretty sure it is an 881 based wintv card
[07:07] <DBO> USB?
[07:07] <ozzloy> esc_ape: ah, now i know what the problem was.  it had mozilla-firefox, needed 'firefox'
[07:07] <esc_ape> working now?
[07:07] <rishi> DBO: PCI
[07:07] <ozzloy> esc_ape: indeed!  thanks!
[07:07] <esc_ape> yup np
[07:08] <ABCD> I cannot get sound to work in Ubuntu.  Any suggestions on where to start to find the problem?
[07:08] <rishi> any idea DBO?
[07:08] <esc_ape> ABCD - what sound card?
[07:09] <ABCD> I'm not sure
[07:09] <DBO> rishi, I believe it should have a driver, but I am looking for verification
[07:09] <DBO> I have the PVR-150, but that is considerably newer
[07:09] <rishi> yeah, definitely
[07:10] <bimberi> rishi: is it currently installed?  if so, does 'lsmod | grep bttv' output anything?
[07:10] <DBO> btw, 881 is USB, 880 is PCI
[07:10] <rishi> i'll check that hold up
[07:10] <DBO> I believe
[07:10] <rishi> according to the site
[07:10] <rishi> it says 881-based PCI boards
[07:10] <DBO> wait my bad
[07:10] <DBO> yeah, there are some
[07:10] <esc_ape> ABCD - do this. open terminal and type sudo lshw
[07:10] <DBO> but damn they are hidden
[07:11] <esc_ape> see what it says under multimedia
[07:11] <Elhaz> Alguien me puede ayudar con la conexion a internet de Ubuntu?
[07:11] <bimberi> rishi: btw don't paste the output, if the kernel has recognised it it should put out a few lines
[07:11] <ABCD> !spanish
[07:11] <ubotu> I guess spanish is Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:11] <Elhaz> Thank you
[07:12] <rishi> bimberi: i got a bunch of stuff outputted, what am i looking for?
[07:12] <bimberi> rishi: at this stage, just that more than nothing was output.
[07:12] <kat> Question: Is there (and where do I find) a 'FreeRam' for Ubuntu?
[07:13] <marlun> What can I use to unrar a split rar archive (bah.rar, bah.r01, etc)?
[07:13] <bimberi> rishi: i reckon you could try installing something like 'tvtime' and see if it just works (tm) :)
[07:13] <rishi> for real?  you think its already working? woah..that would be great
[07:14] <rishi> how do i set the root password?
[07:14] <bimberi> rishi: linux is usually very good with old hardware
[07:14] <rishi> or actually, i should say
[07:14] <bimberi> !tell rishi about root
[07:14] <dotheuganda> hi!
[07:14] <Madpilot> rishi, you don't really need a root pw in Ubuntu...
[07:14] <dotheuganda> i have a problem with my removable storage thing
[07:15] <rishi> bimberi: the reason i ask is because i tried to login as root, and the only password i created didnt' work
[07:15] <ABCD> esc_ape: This looks like it might be the relevent section from the lshw output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10894
[07:15] <bimberi> rishi: check that link ubotu has /msg-d you
[07:15] <Madpilot> rishi, read the URL bimberi sent you - the short version is that Ubuntu uses sudo & your own user pw
[07:15] <JAyRULE> in the file browser, i tried to click on "floppy drive" and it gives me a "mount error" reading "given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[07:15] <rishi> yeah, i got it, am readong through it now
[07:16] <esc_ape> ABCD - I have the same card. there's a trick to get it to work
[07:16] <dotheuganda> my removable drive is like an mp3 thing
[07:16] <pulgoki> is there a cool system monitor for gnome like the one used in kde that puts all of the tickers on your background but look transparent?
[07:16] <esc_ape> hopefully I remember exactly how to do it
[07:16] <dotheuganda> it wont let me unmount
[07:16] <dotheuganda> any help?
[07:17] <Intangir> hahaha i just saw a story on maxX where a cat got his collar tangled and was getting strangled
[07:17] <rishi> if i want to change a folder permission i use chown right?
[07:17] <cdubya> I'm running xfce4 on this installation and I'm having some weird issues now......the default file manager that was setup when I booted xfce was rox, but I changed that in the menu editor and used nautilus and that wreaked havoc on xfce. I now can't seem to figure out how to get the right-mouse clicks to work in xfce as well as scrolling in windows (using page up and dn.....). Any ideas?
[07:17] <Intangir> so it dialed 911. and got someone to come out and save him!
[07:17] <TorChile> rishi:: use chmod
[07:17] <TorChile> not chown
[07:17] <ian_> Help Question: Is anyone familiar with a program called FreeRam (for Windows)?  I'm trying to find an equivelent for Ubuntu.
[07:17] <Madpilot> ian_, what does it do?
[07:18] <ian_> MadPilot: It clears RAM cache?  I think...
[07:18] <esc_ape> cdubya - check out #xfce
[07:18] <dotheuganda> it won't let me unmount!
[07:18] <Madpilot> ian_, Linux does that already
[07:18] <rishi> TorChile: can you give me an example of how to use it...to change from root to me?
[07:18] <TorChile> sure
[07:19] <ian_> MadPilot: Are you serious!?!?!
[07:19] <TorChile> first go to the folder above the one you want to change
[07:19] <TorChile> open a terminal there
[07:19] <Madpilot> rishi, "sudo chown rishi:rishi /name/of/folder"
[07:19] <Madpilot> ian_, yes
[07:19] <JAyRULE> how do i mount the floppy drive
[07:19] <JAyRULE> ?
[07:20] <dotheuganda> how do i unmount this removable storage thingy!
[07:20] <rishi> TorChile, Madpilot: that's it?
[07:20] <TorChile> yep
[07:20] <Madpilot> rishi, pretty much - where I put rishi:rishi, you put your own user name
[07:20] <TorChile> I think so
[07:20] <TorChile> hey Madpilot
[07:20] <esc_ape> ABCD - run alsamixer in the terminal
[07:20] <rishi> Madpilot: and that changes from root to me?
[07:20] <rishi> Sweet!
[07:21] <TorChile> whats the diff between chmod and chown
[07:21] <TorChile> ??
[07:21] <marlun> Anyone who can help me on how to unrar a rar archive that is split into multiple .rXX files?
[07:21] <Madpilot> rishi, yes - but be careful doing that, you can mess your system up with chown...
[07:21] <esc_ape> and enable digital something or another...
[07:21] <ian_> MadPilot: So let me get this straight (is still incredulous at how bloody cool Linux is)...Linux has an automatic Memory Management System?  Optimizes and frees RAM on the fly to increase performance?
[07:21] <marlun> I installed unrar but I can't seem to get it to work.
[07:21] <dotheuganda> mount help??????????/////////
[07:21] <rishi> marlun: just pick any of them and un rar
[07:21] <esc_ape> one of the options is disabled...and you have to turn it on
[07:21] <Madpilot> TorChile, chown changes ownership; chmod only changes permissions
[07:21] <TorChile> oh
[07:21] <rishi> oh
[07:21] <TorChile> thanks
[07:21] <rishi> thanks
[07:21] <rishi> haha
[07:22] <marlun> rishi, I do "unrar -e file.rar" but I just get an error.
[07:22] <TorChile> :-)
[07:22] <TorChile> what error
[07:22] <Madpilot> ian_, pretty much - Linux will use as much cache as it can/needs, and swap stuff in and out of it as needed
[07:22] <rishi> oh i just right click haha.
[07:22] <ian_> Madpilot: Which XP/Windows does not?
[07:22] <pulgoki> hmm
[07:22] <Madpilot> ian_, no idea, it's been almost a year since I ran XP... :P
[07:23] <marlun> TorChile, not an error it shows me the command arguments.
[07:23] <pulgoki> does opera browser come with unbuntu?
[07:23] <ABCD> esc_ape: thanks
[07:23] <dotheuganda> thanks you bastards
[07:23] <marlun> rishi, what application do you use then?
[07:23] <Madpilot> pulgoki, no, but it's easy to install
[07:23] <ABCD> it worked
[07:23] <Madpilot> !tell pulgoki about opera
[07:23] <TorChile> hmm...
[07:23] <TorChile> check man unrar
[07:24] <ian_> MadPilot: When I was using XP, I had to DL FreeRam...When I used it, I noticed marke increase in performance because it would free up my RAM rather than try to0 write over the used ram while using a prog.
[07:24] <rishi> marlun, i don't use anything special
[07:24] <TorChile> linux is much more efficient at RAM management
[07:24] <esc_ape> ABCD - did that work?
[07:24] <ian_> TorChile: Excellent.
[07:25] <ABCD> esc_ape: yes
[07:25] <rishi> bimberi: can you teach me how to install tvtime? hahahaha
[07:25] <esc_ape> cool - I cant believe I remember that...been awhile since I installed breezy
[07:25] <rishi> now i'm embarrased at my noobishness
[07:25] <pulgoki> Madpilot: thanks
[07:25] <ian_> Ok, night...gain.  And thanks MadPilot and TorChile.
[07:26] <TorChile> cool
[07:26] <Madpilot> ian_, np, have fun
[07:26] <ian_> :)
[07:26] <hippie23> hello
[07:26] <rishi> Dr_Willis thanks
[07:26] <rishi> haha
[07:26] <rishi> but i would still like help on how to install it
[07:26] <Madpilot> rishi, tvtime is in Universe, so just use Synaptic or apt-get
[07:26] <Madpilot> !info tvtime
[07:26] <bimberi> rishi: if you have the universe repository enabled you should be able to 'sudo aptitude install tvtime'
[07:26] <ubotu> tvtime: (A high quality television application), section universe/x11, is optional.  I run the .sh file and it just opens another blank termanal and does nothing
[07:27] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, if I want to add a shortcut to an application in the "applications" menu, how would I do it ?
[07:27] <rishi> bimberi: well i downloaded it and extracted it onto my desktop already, i wanted to learn how to install it from there
[07:27] <TorChile> Remy
[07:27] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, right-click on the Apps menu, choose Edit Menu
[07:27] <TorChile> use the menu editor
[07:28] <arrick> Dr_Willis: I'm back with gnome running
[07:28] <arrick> finally
[07:28] <TorChile> so am i
[07:28] <rishi> bimberi: and 'sudo aptitude install tvtime' didn't work...it couldn't find the file
[07:28] <arrick> really slow though
[07:28] <TorChile> went top KDE for a while
[07:29] <bimberi> rishi: ah, well installing from the ubuntu repository would be recommeded - otherwise you can have a look here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[07:29] <TorChile> but came back
[07:29] <arrick> help.
[07:29] <bimberi> rishi: do you have universe enabled ...
[07:29] <bimberi> !universe
[07:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:29] <rishi> well, we'll find out
[07:29] <TorChile> how many of you are running Dapper
[07:29] <arrick> I set up CUPS with the terminal and now GNOME cant contact it?
[07:30] <hippie23> breezy here
[07:30] <rishi> bimberi: i'm running dapper, wouldn't universe be on by default?
[07:30] <arrick> torchile: #dapper+1
[07:30] <bimberi> rishi: not necessarily no
[07:30] <jbritz22> yay, got my monitor problem fixed
[07:30] <TorChile> dapper+1??
[07:30] <arrick> for your page
[07:30] <bimberi> #ubuntu+1
[07:30] <TorChile> whats +1
[07:30] <TorChile> ??
[07:30] <rishi> bimberi: where do i go, into synaptic?
[07:30] <arrick> thanks bimberi
[07:30] <bimberi> arrick: np :)
[07:31] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:31] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:31] <arrick> bimbiri: you see my last post?
[07:31] <bimberi> yes, that AddingRepositoriesHowto page (ubotu above) has the details
[07:31] <arrick> I think I am making enemies, askign so many questions
[07:31] <rishi> me too arrick
[07:31] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:31] <bimberi> rishi: yes, that AddingRepositoriesHowto page (ubotu above) has the details
[07:32] <hippie23> im having some problems installing quake3... I run the .sh file and it just opens another blank termanal and does nothing
[07:32] <hippie23> what can I do to make it work
[07:32] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:32] <hippie23> or is it supposed to do that
[07:32] <arrick> I've watched 3 good users leave tonight as I ask them questions
[07:32] <arrick> ouch
[07:33] <rishi> just out of curiousity...where is the lil list file that would have these repos listed that i can just use text editor to manipulate?
[07:33] <tristanmike> rishi: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:33] <bimberi> arrick: is the cupsd running?  'ps aux | grep cupsd'
[07:33] <Dr_Fate> yest
[07:33] <jbritz22> whats the "lightest-weight" msn client for linux
[07:33] <Madpilot> rishi, /etc/apt/sources.list - "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:33] <arrick> I dont know, do run those in the terminal?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> jbritz22,  proberly one of the console based ones :P
[07:33] <bimberi> arrick: yep
[07:33] <rishi> yah...lets try it that way!
[07:34] <jbritz22> Dr_Willis: anything else?
[07:34] <arrick> cant launch the terminal in ubuntu?
[07:34] <arrick> no such child?
[07:34] <Dr_Fate> test
[07:34] <h0nus> can someone tell me what i'm missing-- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10895
[07:34] <bimberi> arrick: applications -> accessories -> terminal ??
[07:34] <wd3> do i have to save session everytime i log off of xfce on ubuntu?
[07:34] <riddlebox> is there a way to make totem play dvds, xine and mplayer can but totem says there are no decoders found to handle the stream?
[07:35] <arrick> bimbiri: 'Details: Failed to execute child process "Terminal" (No such file or directory)' is what I got
[07:35] <arrick> how is this?
[07:36] <tristanmike> !tell riddlebox about dvd
[07:36] <rishi> bimberi: i think i added the universe one, but its still not getting tvtime
[07:36] <crimsun> !info tvtime
[07:36] <ubotu> tvtime: (A high quality television application), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1740 kB
[07:37] <riddlebox> tristanmike, I said I can watch the dvds in xine and mplayer already but totem cant play them
[07:37] <bimberi> rishi: you need to 'sudo apt-get update' after editing the repository list
[07:37] <rishi> oh
[07:37] <wd3> do i have to save session everytime i log off of xfce on ubuntu?
[07:37] <rishi> how bout that
[07:38] <hippie23> wd3: no... I dont
[07:38] <bimberi> arrick: do you get that when you select the menu option
[07:38] <bimberi> ?
[07:38] <riddlebox> never mind I just installed the plugin to make it work off the xine engine
[07:38] <hippie23> doesnt seem to affect anything
[07:38] <arrick> yep
[07:38] <wd3> hippie23, well i installed conky and gdesklets, and everytime i log in session they aren't running, whats the save session for?
[07:38] <arrick> when I click on application>system tools>terminal is when I get it
[07:39] <rishi> bimberi: what does the aptitude part in 'sudo aptitude install tvtime' mean?
[07:39] <hippie23> to save your prevoius session
[07:39] <bimberi> arrick: run Synaptic and see if 'gnome-terminal' is installed
[07:39] <bimberi> rishi: aptitude is another package manager (like apt-get and synaptic) ...
[07:39] <bimberi> !tell rishi about aptitude
[07:39] <arrick> I find synaptic where?
[07:40] <arrick> !synaptic
[07:40] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:40] <hippie23> like I have xmms, streamtuner and gaim running, I log out and check the save session button, and they will be there when I boot up again
[07:40] <bimberi> arrick: self service :)
[07:40] <arrick> trying now
[07:40] <rishi> huh...aptitude seems pretty cool...maybe i shall start trying to use that
[07:41] <Fujitsu> df
[07:41] <rishi> bimberi: HOLY SH** it works!
[07:41] <hippie23> I unchecked the save session button to leave it so it brings up just xmms, streamtuner and gaim, but leaving it checked will start you from where you left off the previos time
[07:42] <arrick> this might take a while on this thing bimbiri
[07:42] <wd3> hippie23, when u log in do u choose start xfce or last?
[07:42] <bimberi> rishi: great! :)
[07:43] <hippie23> I just log in and and it automaticaly starts xfce... unless I tell it to start KDE or fluxbox
[07:43] <arrick> bimbiri: I dont see it, should be in the left side of the screen right?
[07:43] <hippie23> I like xfce so I lust use it all the time
[07:43] <bimberi> arrick: i'm assuming you're using gnome here, is that right?
[07:43] <arrick> yeah
[07:43] <hippie23> just*
[07:43] <jessid> hello! some of you know any tool to save power in my PC? for example put hard disks to sleep, or something like that?
[07:43] <arrick> I switched, just to get the system>admin>printers, so I can add my printer
[07:43] <bimberi> arrick: Synaptic is in the System -> Administration menu
[07:44] <arrick> I know
[07:44] <arrick> I found that, I mean 'gnome-terminal' should show up in the left pane of synaptic right?
[07:44] <johanbr> jessid: Ubuntu should do that for you by default, at least if you're on a laptop and running Breezy or Dapper.
[07:45] <wd3> hippie23, i want to use xfce all the time so how do i prevent the other options or how do i autochoose xfce to boot up?
[07:45] <jessid> no, I am working on a desktop machine, but I want to to some HD to sleep...
[07:45] <rishi> bimberi: any idea why the sound wouldn't be working?
[07:46] <rishi> like sounds work (ie, the ubuntu startup thing) but the tvtime sound isn't
[07:46] <bimberi> arrick: oh, kk :), well not for me -  it should appear in the package list when you search for it
[07:46] <johanbr> jessid: If you're mostly worried about the hd's, use hdparm ("man hdparm" for details). If you want a whole bunch of power-saving options, I'd recommend gnome-power-manager (available at least in Dapper).
[07:46] <arrick> in the right or left pane?
[07:46] <hippie23> when you lon in, it will pop up a box that tells you that xfce is not your defult session... click on the "make defult" button... then it should go to xfce every time
[07:47] <bimberi> rishi: not sure sorry, try fiddling with your volume settings (double-click on the volume applet)
[07:47] <bimberi> arrick: right pane
[07:47] <arrick> I have a green boxe next to in in synaptic
[07:47] <rishi> ok
[07:47] <jessid> johanbr thanks!
[07:48] <bimberi> arrick: if you right-click on it does is the install option available or greyed?
[07:48] <bimberi> arrick: 'Mark for installation' that is
[07:48] <wd3> hippie23, i don't see that box. i have a box at the top it says "last" then something else and the bottom it says "xfce" so i choose xfce.
[07:49] <arrick> mark for installation is greyed out
[07:49] <arrick> brb
[07:49] <hippie23> ok
[07:49] <hippie23> I cant explain it any further
[07:49] <rishi> bimberi: you are my hero...you know that right?
[07:50] <hippie23> I suck with written language
[07:50] <bimberi> arrick: hm, ok, not sure what's wrong with the menu option then.    Anyway, offtopic.
[07:55] <hippie23> <---keys up mic and says a few colorful words
[07:55] <arrick> how do I get that line in there?
[07:55] <hippie23> btw.. no1 is in the ubuntuofftopic #
[07:56] <arrick> bimbiri: how do I get that line in there?
[07:56] <bimberi> arrick: not sure what do you mean. type it at the prompt
[07:56] <arrick> I got it, I meant the line in between the letters
[07:57] <RemyLaptop> Hi guys,  the "command prompt" of my terminals currently say "david@laptop", does anyone know how to change that ?
[07:57] <RemyLaptop> I want to change the colors...
[07:57] <bimberi> arrick: ah, kk :)
[07:57] <Dr_Willis>  google for the bash prompt howto
[07:57] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, google for bash command prompt tutorial
[07:57] !lilo:*! Changes to http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml --- includes extensive clarification of the 'approving' and 'approved' contact roles, as well as information on proxy submittal and special scheduling requirements.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> and the advance -bash scripting guide. :P
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> all sorts of neat tricks ya can do
[07:58] <arrick> bimbiri: I sent you a message in the other window
[07:58] <rishi> dude i'm totally watching tv on my ubuntu
[07:58] <RememberPOL> Will Ubuntu v6.04 be released before April 20th?
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> !dapper
[07:58] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[07:59] <RememberPOL> rishi: Are you using MythTV?
[08:00] <rishi> no, i want to though now that i know it works
[08:00] <rishi> i'm currently using tvtime
[08:00] <hippie23> speaking of video stuff, my iMac has a dvdrom drive, I have totem, xine, and vlc players on it, but it wont play a dvd... it takes the disc, reads it, then spits it out... whats up with that?
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> the disk must be porn.. so it tastes bad.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:00] <hippie23> no, it was Star Wars 1
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> Egads! its the force!
[08:01] <hippie23> does it with all my dvd's
[08:01] !lilo:*! A few more changes to http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml --- a note about the backlog and prose cleanup in the 'approved contact' section
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> My silly imac got so hot when playing dvd's it was scary
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> the dvds came out nioce and toasty
[08:02] <hippie23> mine gets so hot you can fry an egg on it just sitting idle
[08:02] <hippie23> LOL
[08:02] <PistolPedro> mine's cool as a cucumber :-p
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Yea - appler really screwe people over on tha.. "its super quiet!"  - since we dident bother to put in any fans....
[08:02] <tristanmike> lol
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> I got an imacDV :P - its old and 128mb of ram..
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Same here; cool as a cucumber.....that's been fried up to a nice 52C.
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> one of thse days i need to upgrade the ram.
[08:03] <PistolPedro> i don't use mac's :-P
[08:03] <arrick> me too
[08:03] <hippie23> that is one thing I like about my iMac... its quiet... this p3 sounds like a jet taking off
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[08:03] <hippie23> mine is an iMac DV400
[08:03] <hippie23> 256Mb ram
[08:03] <hippie23> 40Gb hdd
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> It is noce how the newer machines are all  getting quieter these days.
[08:03] <PistolPedro> haha skype got a rico suit filed against them
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> better fans, bearings, insulation/cases and so on
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> rico?
[08:04] <hippie23> rico?
[08:04] <PistolPedro> racketeering
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: A what?  (Using Skype at this very moment.)
[08:04] <hippie23> o
[08:04] <hippie23> and I use skype... a lot
[08:04] <PistolPedro> http://andyabramson.blogs.com/voipwatch/2006/03/skype_zennstrom.html
[08:05] <PistolPedro> rico is bad news. real bad
[08:05] <PistolPedro> and why use skype
[08:05] <PistolPedro> ekiga is so much better.
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> that has to be one of the worst laid out web sites ive seen in ages
[08:06] <PistolPedro> yea
[08:06] <PistolPedro> it's a slashdot article
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> the text is like in a 2 inch wide colum
[08:06] <PistolPedro>  Stitch_Surfs writes "Defendant Skype Technologies S A, Niklas Zennstrom, Janus Friis, Kazaa, Bluemoon Ou and a slew of others have been named in a Rico Suit Filed by StreamCast Networks, of Houston, Texas. StreamCast is the company credited with the development of the Peer to Peer Technology called Morpheus. From the little information the courts have released, StreamCast is claiming that the group engaged in corrupt business practi
[08:06] <PistolPedro> ces."
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> with 6 in of white space on the sides.
[08:06] <tristanmike> !offtopic
[08:06] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[08:07] <hippie23> looks like skype will go the way dos 1.0 did... GONE!
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: Tell about ekiga.  I'm thinking of switching to it.
[08:07] <PistolPedro> ekiga is formerly gnome meeting
[08:07] <hippie23> oh well
[08:08] <hippie23> I got teamspeak
[08:08] <PistolPedro> it's a very light weight configurable voip client that can connect to skype users and most other voip programs
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> offtopic meeans we nee dto get back to teaching newbies the basics of bash and 'what command does ......'
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:08] <rishi> peace guys..i need to sleep
[08:08] <arrick> night
[08:08] <PistolPedro> Ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: It can connect to Skype?  I thought that was a closed protocol?
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: Can it do conference calls?
[08:08] <ian_> Question:  When trying to install Boson (from "Games (universe)") in Synaptic package manager...I get "boson-base:
[08:08] <ian_>  Depends: kdelibs4 (>=4:3.2.3) but it is not installable
[08:08] <ian_>  Depends: libarts1 (>=1.2.3) but it is not installable
[08:08] <ian_>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.2.3-3) but it is not installable
[08:08] <ian_>  Depends: boson-data but it is not going to be installed"
[08:08] <tristanmike> !paste
[08:08] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:08] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, it can connect to skype users, and yes it can
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: What would you recommend I tell my Windows friends to use if I'm using it?  Does it matter?
[08:09] <ian_> <oops!
[08:09] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, gizmo works well with it

[08:09] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, and gizmo has a client for all 3 os's i believe
[08:09] <jbritz22> whats a good partition manager for linux
[08:09] <PistolPedro> gparted
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: All right, I think I'm sold.
[08:09] <hippie23> where do I get akiga?
[08:09] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, download it.
[08:09] <PistolPedro> ekiga
[08:09] <PistolPedro> umm one sec
[08:10] <tristanmike> !info ekiga
[08:10] <PistolPedro> apt-get
[08:10] <PistolPedro> sudo apt-get install ekiga
[08:10] <hippie23> <--sux at spelling... damn dislexia!
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: Oh, one last thing: Can I hear my other sounds during a call?   Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: Beautiful.
[08:10] <Ikoniak> Hey guys
[08:10] <PistolPedro> hmm..
[08:10] <hippie23> my sound card only works wit alsa
[08:10] <arrick> hey guys I got through the web to add my printer, can somewalk me through it please?
[08:10] <PistolPedro> !ubotu forget ekiga Ekiga
[08:10] <ubotu> PistolPedro: i forgot ekiga ekiga
[08:10] <ian_> Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to instal Boson (strategy game) on Ubuntu?
[08:11] <PistolPedro> !ubotu ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[08:11] <ubotu> okay, PistolPedro
[08:11] <PistolPedro> !ekiga
[08:11] <PistolPedro> good
[08:11] <PistolPedro> :-P
[08:11] <Ikoniak> I have a radeon 200m graphics card, is this compatable with ubuntu?
[08:11] <ian_> !boson
[08:11] <ubotu> ian_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <tristanmike> !tell Ikoniak about ati
[08:11] <FlannelKing> ian_: it's actually in the repositories.
[08:11] <tristanmike> ian_: do you have the universe/mulitverse enabled?
[08:11] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, cool thing is you get a name like @ekiga.net people can just call that
[08:12] <PistolPedro> and it has automatic NAT traversal
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: That is slick.
[08:12] <arrick> !add Printer
[08:12] <ubotu> arrick: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:12] <ian_> TristanMike and FlannelKing: Wnet to SPN and looked under Games (Universe)
[08:12] <Madpilot> !tell arrick about printers
[08:12] <jbritz22> !pod
[08:12] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jbritz22
[08:12] <jbritz22> !ipod
[08:12] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:13] <ian_> TristanMike and FlannelKing: Tried to install, but it said uninstallable and will not be installed.
[08:13] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, you convinced :-P
[08:13] <tristanmike> ian_: do you have the universe/mulitverse enabled?
[08:13] <Madpilot> ian_, boson is in the Universe repo
[08:13] <FlannelKing> tristanmike: he found it, synaptic said uninstallable
[08:13] <ian_> tristanmike: I'm uncertain if I do.
[08:13] <jbritz22> whats an extended filestyem mean?
[08:13] <hippie23> just tried apt, and got this
[08:13] <hippie23> sudo apt-get install ekiga
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: I think so.  Might not actually do the switch until I get around to getting Dapper, just to do it all at once, but definitely sounds good.
[08:14] <badfish> hello
[08:14] <hippie23> oops
[08:14] <ian_> MadPilot: Ian is lost. ;(
[08:14] <badfish> have you guys seen what microsoft is trying to do now?
[08:14] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, yea it's very good
[08:14] <hippie23> E: Couldn't find package ekiga
[08:14] <PistolPedro> badfish, no ..
[08:14] <hippie23> that it
[08:14] <badfish> http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=31023&dl=3
[08:14] <badfish> its funny stuff
[08:14] <PistolPedro> hippie23, yea you need to add repo's
[08:14] <Madpilot> badfish, MS chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:14] <tristanmike> ekiga is _not_ in the repos
[08:14] <PistolPedro> yes it is
[08:14] <Madpilot> ian_, you used the terminal yet?
[08:14] <PistolPedro> user@System:~$ sudo apt-cache search ekiga
[08:14] <PistolPedro> ekiga - Free Your Speech
[08:14] <ian_> MadPilot: Nope.
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike: Probably only called that in Dapper.
[08:15] <PistolPedro> nope
[08:15] <PistolPedro> it's in my repo's fine
[08:15] <jbritz22> whats an extended partition?
[08:15] <tristanmike> ahh, Dapper, well, that explains everything
[08:15] <PistolPedro> i'm using it on breezy
[08:15] <ian_> Wish I could figure out how to change my font color here?
[08:15] <PistolPedro> http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=5&path=ubuntu/breezy_i386
[08:15] <hippie23> when is dapper gonna be relised anyway?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> ian_: no font colours allowed in here...
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: apt-cache policy ekiga please.
[08:15] <tristanmike> !dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:15] <Hobbsee> hippie23: june
[08:15] <hippie23> ok
[08:15] <Madpilot> ian_, in Synaptic, go Settings->Repositories
[08:15] <ian_> Hobbsee: Then why are you showing in red?
[08:15] <PistolPedro> user@System:~$ apt-cache policy ekiga
[08:15] <PistolPedro> ekiga:
[08:15] <PistolPedro>   Installed: 2.0.1-1.breezy.1457
[08:15] <PistolPedro>   Candidate: 2.0.1-1.breezy.1457
[08:15] <PistolPedro>   Version table:
[08:16] <PistolPedro>  *** 2.0.1-1.breezy.1457 0
[08:16] <PistolPedro>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[08:16] <tristanmike> !paste
[08:16] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:16] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:16] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[08:16] <ian_> MadPilot: Gimme a sec.
[08:16] <Intangir> how the hell is my atheros wireless card supported.. i had to install madwifi on gentoo and i dont see it installed.. but .. im usingi t
[08:16] <Intangir> is this magic? hehe
[08:16] <Madpilot> ian_, you can change font colours in XChat
[08:16] <Hobbsee> ian_: because i replied to you, adding your nick into my statement
[08:16] <frank23> Intangir: linux-restricted-modules contains madwifi
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: But what repo is it coming from?
[08:16] <jbritz22> !partition
[08:16] <ubotu> jbritz22: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:16] <ian_> Hobbsee: Gotcha.
[08:16] <frank23> Intangir: magic!
[08:16] <jbritz22> !drive
[08:16] <ubotu> jbritz22: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:16] <jbritz22> lol
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, dunno
[08:17] <Intangir> oh ok
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, just download the .deb from the website
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: It should say after that line...
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, it doesn't
[08:17] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, ready.
[08:17] <Intangir> why is it called linux-restricted-modules
[08:17] <jbritz22> so noone can tell me what an extended partition is?
[08:17] <tristanmike> PistolPedro: right, cause it's not available for Breezy
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tristanmike, sure it is
[08:17] <josh-z> New Ubuntu forum at http://forum.ubuntuos.com/ :)
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> PistolPedro: You must have downloaded the .deb then too.
[08:17] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, maybe i don't remember
[08:17] <Intangir> also i tried to install some kind of nvidia package and it tried to unstall that..
[08:17] <RemyLaptop> ok, my bash prompt is buggered now :)
[08:18] <hippie23> heres a questiune for PPC users, my iMac's monitor is really dim and I cant find a brightness control anywere, whats a program for linux that controls the screen brightness and geometry?
[08:18] <RemyLaptop> !paste
[08:18] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:18] <Intangir> which seemed like a bad idea to me so i canceled..
[08:18] <jbritz22> xgamma
[08:18] <tristanmike> PistolPedro: it isn't and you can find out yourself at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <Madpilot> ian_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:18] <hippie23> its all done in software on a Imac
[08:18] <PistolPedro> tristanmike, okay, i'm just saying it works perfectly on breezy
[08:18] <Madpilot> Intangir, it wanted to install the -restricted thing, or remove it?
[08:18] <frank23> !tell Intangir about nvidia
[08:18] <ian_> Madpilot: Thank you, again.....(hangs head in shame at his Linux n00bness)
[08:18] <tristanmike> PistolPedro: that's great, but it's not in the Breezy repos. that's all I'm saying
[08:19] <RemyLaptop> I'm getting an error when I start a terminal, my .bashrc can be seen here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10896
[08:19] <PistolPedro> tristanmike, k
[08:19] <Madpilot> ian_, no problem - check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto too
[08:19] <h0nus> please help-- i am trying to install saprfc with python (as instructed in the readme)
[08:19] <andrina> hi i installed java and my programs still tell me it cant be found...why would this be?
[08:19] <RemyLaptop> The error I get is: bash: /home/david/.bashrc: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:19] <RemyLaptop> bash: /home/david/.bashrc: line 1: `# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.'
[08:19] <Intangir> it wanted to remove it
[08:19] <h0nus> and i get the following-- error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[08:19] <Madpilot> Intangir, odd - I know zip about NVidia though, I run an ATI card - check the wiki's Nvidia page
[08:20] <Madpilot> !tell Intangir about nvidia
[08:20] <andrina> hi i installed java and my programs still tell me it cant be found...why would this be?
 http://www.challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=31023&dl=3
 nice article on microsoft future plans
[08:20] <frank23> Intangir: what did you try to install exactly?
[08:20] <Madpilot> badfish, please don't spam the channel like that
[08:20] <Hobbsee> badfish: that's offtopic, please
[08:20] <tristanmike> badfish: please take all MS and related stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <ian_> Madpilot: I'm currently filling my browser's bookmark's with the links you guys send me so I can reference them often/easilly.
[08:20] <Intangir> i was going to install the newest nvidia, i was reading htis tutorial, it said to uninstall some old the old nvidia stuff
[08:20] <Intangir> when i tried to unstall it.. let me look real quick
[08:20] <andrina> !java
[08:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:21] <andrina> !javadebs
[08:21] <josh-z> Where would I start to start programing programs for Ubuntu and packaging them as deb. Any suggestions on what language I would want to use? (links are good :P)
[08:21] <Madpilot> andrina, on that wiki page, there's a section on getting your system to use Sun Java instead of the gjc stuff - it's right below the Sun Java install info
[08:21] <Intangir> nvidia-kernel-common
[08:21] <Intangir> i tried to uninstall nvidia-kernel-common nad it wanted me to uninstall linux-restircted-modules
[08:22] <ian_> Ok, and sometimes when I install from SPM, I can't find the app in my applications menu.  Where are these guys going?
[08:22] <Madpilot> ian_, some of the stuff in Synaptic doesn't have menu entries, that's all
[08:22] <PistolPedro> ian_, SPM ?
[08:22] <Madpilot> ian_, try Alt+F2, and type the package's name
[08:23] <Madpilot> PistolPedro, Synaptic Package Manager
[08:23] <PistolPedro> ah.
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> So when I upgrade to Dapper, I want to redo a bit of my partition layout, clean up lots of nonsense, start fresh, yadda yadda.  I'm thinking the best way is make some partitions on my roomie's 90GB drive, rsync my data over, clean install, and rsync back what I need.  How's that sound?
[08:24] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, sounds okay
[08:24] <gza> hi
[08:24] <frank23> does anyone have the problems where some wmv movies have screwed up audio in xine but play fine in mplayer?
[08:24] <ian_> Madpilot and PistolPedro: Once again, you guys are the best.  Thanks for making learning how to use Linux vastly easier for me.  (make the transission a lot easier).
[08:24] <RemyLaptop> anyone know why I get the following error: bash: /home/david/.bashrc: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:24] <RemyLaptop> bash: /home/david/.bashrc: line 1: `# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.'
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> Hello Live CD for making Linux partitions...(he's an MS type still)
[08:24] <PistolPedro> ian_, no problemo sir
[08:25] <andrina> !javadebs
[08:25] <andrina> !java
[08:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:25] <hippie23> well im out
[08:25] <RemyLaptop> I get that when opening a new terminal
[08:25] <hippie23> y'all have a good night
[08:25] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, because you've done something odd to your .bashrc file?
[08:25] <hippie23> peace
[08:25] <ian_> All: Everyone here that contributes to helping n00bs (like me)...Thank you.  Thank for/from all of us n00bs.  You're the reason some of us frustrated guys stay with it.
[08:26] <PistolPedro> ian_, i was a newb about a month ago
[08:26] <PistolPedro> :-P
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> ian_: You're welcome - we were all new once :)
[08:26] <ian_> All: You're the reason we don't go back to XP.  (spits on XP)
[08:26] <PistolPedro> i remember XP
[08:26] <PistolPedro> seems like years ago
[08:26] <fyrebat> hey, can someone help me out with a dumb linux question
[08:26] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, shoot
[08:26] <glm2k> what's XP? :)
[08:26] <tristanmike> fire away
[08:26] <fyrebat> how do I get permission to open a file?
[08:26] <PistolPedro> XP what ?
[08:26] <ian_> <smiles and goes back to messing around with linux, his new favorite toy>
[08:26] <RemyLaptop> Madpilot, changing my bashrc doens't seem to affect it anymore!
[08:27] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, sudo chmod +x filename ?
[08:27] <tristanmike> fyrebat: read about chmod
[08:27] <fyrebat> thx
[08:27] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, what kind of file, a program?
[08:27] <ian_> <forgets XP existed...."This is not the OS you seek"...>
[08:27] <fyrebat> dev cpp
[08:27] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, if you're updating your bashrc, type "source ~/.bashrc" to force a reload of that file
[08:27] <fyrebat> yeah, a program
[08:27] <RemyLaptop> ahk!
[08:28] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, then yea, sudo chmod +x programname
[08:28] <jbritz22> how do I make fluxbox maximize instead of shade on doubleclick
[08:28] <gza> Can I install from the ubuntu 5.10 liveCD? Can't seem to find any docs in regards to this
[08:28] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, or restart gnome-terminal - but 'source' is easier...
[08:28] <RemyLaptop> hm, Madpilot it still gives me that compile error!
[08:28] <neo911> does the name kevin roberts ring a bell to anyone? thx
[08:28] <RemyLaptop> even though it's empty 1
[08:28] <fyrebat> just type that in command line?
[08:28] <PistolPedro> neo911, no
[08:28] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, yea go to the dir the program name is in then copy that
[08:29] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, I don't know - I'm not any sort of expert on .bashrc, I've just messed with mine a bit...
[08:29] <PistolPedro> RemyLaptop, do you want a fresh bash.rc ?
[08:29] <RemyLaptop> PistolPedro, that might be good
[08:29] <fyrebat> k, so I put in my password
[08:29] <PistolPedro> RemyLaptop, okay one sec
[08:29] <fyrebat> now I just ./progname?
[08:29] <PistolPedro> yes
[08:30] <fyrebat> what was that command I just put in- what did I do exactly with"sudo chmod +x programname"
[08:30] <PistolPedro> did you substiture
[08:30] <PistolPedro> programname for the program name ..
[08:30] <RemyLaptop> fyrebat you shouldn't need the sudo for that... chmod +x makes a file executable
[08:30] <PistolPedro> substitute*
[08:30] <fyrebat> yeah
[08:30] <PistolPedro> RemyLaptop, http://pastebin.com/624508
[08:31] <fyrebat> oh
[08:31] <PistolPedro> the sudo is just so it works
[08:31] <fyrebat> I guess thats why it says cannot read binary
[08:31] <fyrebat> I"m trying to install bloodshed dev c++
[08:31] <fyrebat> u guys heard of?
[08:31] <PistolPedro> no
[08:32] <fyrebat> ah, its just a .exe setup file
[08:32] <tristanmike> like a windows .exe ?
[08:32] <RemyLaptop> PistolPedro, it still gives me that error!
[08:32] <fyrebat> not sure, I probly dled the wrong thing
[08:32] <RemyLaptop> is there anything else that could be causing it ?
[08:32] <PistolPedro> RemyLaptop, man, dunno that's weird
[08:33] <RemyLaptop> hm
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> fyrebat: Definitely.
[08:33] <RemyLaptop> what's a plain text editor in ubuntu ?
[08:33] <fyrebat> if its a linux compatible .exe, should I just be able to ./name, and have it work?
[08:33] <RemyLaptop> I've been using OO to edit the file, which might be putting wierd characters in.
[08:33] <tristanmike> RemyLaptop: gedit
[08:33] <tristanmike> RemyLaptop: or "nano" in a terminal
[08:33] <RemyLaptop> ta
[08:33] <PistolPedro> whats the best way to speed up boot in ubuntu ?
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> fyrebat: Never heard of a .exe for Linux.
[08:34] <fyrebat> heh
[08:34] <PistolPedro> tonyyarusso, folding @ home uses an .exe
[08:34] <Intangir> ok.. im rebooting a new kernel.. pray for me ;)
[08:34] <fyrebat> well, thanx for help all
[08:34] <PistolPedro> any of you tried leafpad ?
[08:34] <PistolPedro> !leafpad
[08:34] <ubotu> PistolPedro: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:35] <PistolPedro> !ubotu leafpad is a simple GTK+ text editor that emphasizes simplicity. As development focuses on keeping weight down to a minimum, only the most essential features are implemented in the editor. Leafpad is simple to use, is easily compiled, requires few libraries, and starts up quickly.
[08:35] <ubotu> PistolPedro: okay
[08:35] <RemyLaptop> ha !
[08:36] <RemyLaptop> there we go folks, don't use Open Office Writer to edit BashRC files...
[08:36] <PistolPedro> open office is eww
[08:36] <PistolPedro> use abiword for word processing
[08:36] <highvoltage> or any plain text files, for that matter...
[08:36] <highvoltage> koffice is also oK.
[08:36] <PistolPedro> leafpad is better then gedit also
[08:36] <gza> No liveCD install for ubuntu :(
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> gza: There is in Dapper.
[08:37] <jbritz22> whats a good app for downloading from the gnutella network for linux
[08:37] <arrick> gza: I found a link in the wiki that syay otehrwizs.
[08:37] <PistolPedro> jbritz22, frostwire
[08:37] <PistolPedro> !frostwire
[08:37] <arrick> I'm in the middle of it right now
[08:37] <arrick> hang on
[08:37] <gza> arrick: mind sharing it? :) Wiki seems to have tons of broken links
[08:37] <ian_> Madpilot: I don't have any "X"'s next to my repositories....
[08:37] <PistolPedro> !ubotu tell jbritz22 about frostwire
[08:37] <jbritz22> frostwire is too hefty...
[08:38] <PistolPedro> hefty ?
[08:38] <PistolPedro> works fine for me :-P
[08:38] <kingspwned> when i ssh into ubuntu it tells me i have mail - how do i check it?
[08:38] <PistolPedro> type mail
[08:38] <fyrebat> anyone know of a free linux C++ compiler?
[08:38] <gza> tonyyarusso: hmm I have 5.10 which is Hoary, right?
[08:38] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, gcc
[08:38] <PistolPedro> gza, breezy
[08:38] <Madpilot> fyrebat, install build-essential
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> gza: Breezy.
[08:38] <Madpilot> !tell fyrebat about b-e
[08:38] <fyrebat> google build-essential?
[08:38] <jbritz22> ok im back
[08:38] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, i tried that, dont work :)
[08:39] <jbritz22> last thing I said was frostwire was too hefty...
[08:39] <Madpilot> fyrebat, no, just see the msg the bot sent you
[08:39] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, weird ..
[08:39] <gza> they should just use numbers, names are too hard to remember ;)
[08:39] <fyrebat> ten four
[08:39] <Fracture> Hi.  Anyone know of a linux app that allows inspection and even editing of http packets ?  something like a proxy server that has a console to view traffic etc..
[08:39] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, cd /var/spool/mail
[08:39] <PistolPedro> and then cat yourusername
[08:39] <PistolPedro> like cat user
[08:39] <arrick> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/liveCDInstallHowTo?highlight=%28Copy%29%7C%28LiveCD%29%7C%28to%29%7C%28hd%29
[08:39] <Madpilot> gza, Ubuntu uses both names & numbers - Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[08:40] <prudhvi> How do i compile  a kernel Ubuntu Way
[08:40] <arrick> should be the link to it
[08:40] <arrick> I have it open on sanother pc
[08:40] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, ah, there it was. just cron having something to tell me. thank you :)
[08:40] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, :-)
[08:40] <Madpilot> ian_, look for the Universe & Multiverse stuff in that Synaptic setup screen
[08:40] <fyrebat> what does "sudo" comand do exactly?
[08:40] <PistolPedro> !sudo
[08:40] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:41] <johanbr> Fracture: Not sure exactly what you want to do, but ethereal might fit your needs.
[08:41] <gza> arrick: thanks
[08:41] <fyrebat> k
[08:41] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, any idea what package might contain "mail"?
[08:41] <arrick> yep
[08:41] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, uhh.....
[08:41] <sethrd> So, I installed the artwiz fonts through Synaptic, but the fonts aren't in any font lists. I've restarted X, I've rebooted, I've logged out, but the fonts "aren't there". Anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> kingspwned: mail
[08:41] <prudhvi> !kernel
[08:41] <kingspwned> tonyyarusso, tried that already :)
[08:41] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, yea it's a program... mail
[08:42] <Fracture> johanbr: I used to use Fiddler on windows.  it can be setup as a proxy server, and can interrupt http requests, allowing you to edit them, then submit them to the target. then even interrupt the response and edit it before sending back to the client./
[08:42] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, try mailx
[08:42] <ian_> Madpilot: Not seeing anything of the sort.  You refering to the settings screen or the main SPM screen?
[08:42] <Madpilot> ian_, the settings/repos screen
[08:42] <Ikoniak> How do I find out my kernal version??
[08:42] <sethrd> Ikoniak: uname -a
[08:42] <Fracture> johanbr: a bit like mozilla http live headers, except in an external app, which can be used say for mac clients etc..
[08:42] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, right on! thanks
[08:43] <Ikoniak> thank you
[08:43] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, yep :-)
[08:43] <sethrd> So, I installed the artwiz fonts through Synaptic, but the fonts aren't in any font lists. I've restarted X, I've rebooted, I've logged out, but the fonts "aren't there". Anyone know how I can fix this?
[08:43] <neo911> eh anyone know how to create an alias in a terminal so when i have to cd to a very long path it's easier? thanks!
[08:43] <ian_> Madpilot: I see Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" (Binary)    Community Maintained (Universe).
[08:44] <sethrd> neo911: Use tab.
[08:44] <ian_> Madpilot: That's the closest I can find.
[08:44] <Madpilot> ian_, that's the one ou want
[08:44] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, then I....?
[08:44] <fyrebat> after I install build-essential, how do I access it?
[08:44] <Madpilot> ian_, then you hit OK and then hit the Reload button in Synaptic
[08:45] <johanbr> Fracture: You can inspect packets with ethereal, but I don't think it'll let you edit them like that. Some combination of iptables, ethereal and netcat will probably let you do what you want but that would require being quite familiar with linux. I'm not aware of a single app that'd fit your description.
[08:45] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, are you trying to compile a program from source?
[08:45] <fyrebat> no, just for a c++ class
[08:45] <fyrebat> wanna write c++ code
[08:45] <sethrd> Fracture: What are you looking for?
[08:45] <PistolPedro> fyrebat, well if you wanna write c++ code you could use bluefish
[08:45] <ian_> Madpilot: It still doesn't give me an X to mark.
[08:46] <fyrebat> alrite, just type "sudo apt-get install bluefish" ?
[08:46] <neo911> sethrd, yes i use that all the time but i think there's a better option to have sort of a "link" to frequently used paths?
[08:46] <sethrd> Yes.
[08:46] <ian_> Madpilot: When I click on the Boson file (any of them) it states: Depends: boson-base but it is not going to be installed
[08:46] <neo911> which is how? :-)
[08:46] <Unimatrix9> hello there
[08:47] <sethrd> neo911: Make a system link. ln -s <destination> <link name>
[08:47] <sethrd> neo911: Like, for example....
[08:47] <Otaku> is it possible to situate the server and channel list in xchat on the left? it's bad at the bottom because i am on quite many channels and i don't want to leave them :)
[08:47] <ian_> Madpilot: And a few others in the list with same general error...
[08:47] <Madpilot> ian_, hmm... let's fix your repos another way, then go from there
[08:47] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok.
[08:47] <sethrd> ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.16.1234.blah /usr/src/linux
[08:47] <Madpilot> ian_, close Synaptic, open a terminal (apps->accessories->Terminal)
[08:47] <Unimatrix9> if i setup an folder to share, with smb, it asks for an pass word , when trying to acces it ?
[08:48] <PistolPedro> Otaku, view>layout>tree
[08:48] <Unimatrix9> whats the passwd for the live cd ubuntu 5.10?
[08:48] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, done.
[08:48] <Unimatrix9> on accessing smb shares
[08:48] <Unimatrix9> ?
[08:48] <Fracture> sethrd: something like this for linux : http://www.fiddlertool.com/fiddler/
[08:48] <Madpilot> ian_, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:48] <Madpilot> ian_, without the quotes
[08:48] <Otaku> ah thank you very much PistolPedro  :)
[08:48] <neo911> sethrd, with your example the next time i access the first param, i just use the second param which is /usr/src/linux?
[08:48] <PistolPedro> Otaku, no problem sir.
[08:49] <sethrd> neo911: Yes, exactly.
[08:49] <DarkMageZ> Unimatrix9: i don't believe there is one, pastebin your /etc/samba/cmb.conf
[08:49] <DarkMageZ> Unimatrix9: /etc/samba/smb.conf*
[08:49] <sethrd> Fracture: Ya know what, I think there is something out there called poison, or something along those lines..
[08:49] <ian_> Madpilot: Prompts for my PW, I typed it, then window pops with text....
[08:49] <Madpilot> ian_, after gedit opens, paste the contents of this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 into your sources.list file
[08:49] <neo911> sethrd, so the 2nd param you couldve just as easily used "mylinux" or any other shorter alternative?
[08:49] <sethrd> Fracture: I'm not positive. Look on Sourceforge.
[08:50] <Fracture> sethrd: thans
[08:50] <Fracture> sethrd: thanks
[08:50] <ian_> Madpilot: At bottom?
[08:50] <sethrd> neo911: Well, you could put it at /home/user/mylinux.
[08:50] <Madpilot> ian_, no, delete everything in there right now, and replace with the sources.list on that URL
[08:50] <sethrd> neo911: Or if you sudo it, which I believe you have to, you could put it at /mylinux.
[08:51] <Madpilot> ian_, just the stuff in the tan box on that URL, obviously
[08:51] <neo911> sethrd, cool, it already worked
[08:51] <ian_> Madpilot, ok, gimme one sec plz.
[08:51] <PistolPedro> hm
[08:52] <ian_> Sans the 002, 003, 004?
[08:52] <ian_> Madpilot: Sans the 002, 003, 004 stuff?
[08:52] <Madpilot> ian_, yeah, sorry. Don't copy the line numbers over
[08:53] <ian_> Madpilot: I figured. :) Ok, Got it pasted...
[08:53] <DarkMageZ> Unimatrix9: if u want an example of a smb.conf which tells samba to share a folder with no passwords at all then http://pastebin.com/624533
[08:53] <Madpilot> ian_, save it, close gedit, and re-open Synaptic
[08:53] <dli> what is /bin/pidof?
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> a program
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> tells you the PID of a pice of (running) software
[08:54] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, can you "ls -l /bin/pidof" for me? it's strange here
[08:54] <ian_> Madpilot: Here's what SPM error prompt says:
[08:55] <ian_> Madpilot: E: Type '017' is not known on line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <ian_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[08:55] <ian_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[08:55] <arrick> hey guys, I can access my print setup through localhost:631, but cant acces the server from other pcs, Help me please?
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: it's a symlink
[08:55] <Madpilot> ian_, did you leave a line # from the pastebin in there by mistake?
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> arrick: in /usr/share/doc/cups in the readme it tells how to fix that
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> IIRC
[08:55] <arrick> ok
[08:55] <ian_> Madpilot: I'll check.
[08:55] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, to where? I got it linked to killall5 , sending a singnal to all process
[08:56] <neo911_> test
[08:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> mine links to killall5
[08:56] <Madpilot> ian_, redo that 'sudo gedit..." line in terminal to edit again
[08:56] <sethrd> Where are kernel modules stored?
[08:56] <Madpilot> neo911, ?
[08:57] <sethrd> /lib/modules/
[08:57] <sethrd> Nevermind.
[08:57] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, that's why I'm asking here :(
[08:58] <neo911> Madpilot, why?
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: good point, but it's running as i would expect here  - kgoetz@Evangelion:~$ pidof  Gnome-terminal
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> 6904
[08:59] <Madpilot> neo911, why what? I was just responding to your "test" thing
[08:59] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, can you "which pidof"?
[08:59] <ian_> Madpilot: Figured that too.  I did, indeed leave a few line numbers.  Most of the way down the page.  Missed em.  Redid what you said before....
[08:59] <Madpilot> ian_, OK - and?
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser>  which pidof
[08:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> /bin/pidof
[08:59] <PistolPedro> how do i create a new user for samba on breezy?
[09:00] <dle> Hi again.  For reasons unknown, my gnome has gone bizarre.  All of the mimetypes-apps associations have been forgotten; if I use an app's help, yelp will start, but the docbook file will open in vim.  Who knows what else as happened.  Has anyone experienced this?
[09:00] <ian_> Madpilot: It loaded some repos this time (unlike last) but still gave error.
[09:00] <ian_> Madpilot: Error is too long to type here without spamming.
[09:00] <arrick> you mean usr/share/doc/cupsys?
[09:00] <arrick> there is no cups
[09:00] <sethrd> So, I installed the artwiz fonts through Synaptic, but the fonts aren't in any font lists. I've restarted X, I've rebooted, I've logged out, but the fonts "aren't there". Anyone know how I can fix this?
[09:00] <ian_> <chain smokes some more>
[09:00] <Madpilot> ian_, put it up at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  - and put your sources.list up there too
[09:01] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, I got "nothing" with "which pidof" :( very puzzling, I already did "apt-get --reinstall install sysvinit", still couldn't do "which pidof"
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. wierd
[09:01] <ian_> Madpilot: By using terminal to open gedit again?
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: I'm running as the first user
[09:01] <sethrd> Anyone at all know how to refresh my font cache?
[09:01] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, it's a ubuntu way :(
[09:02] <Madpilot> ian_, yes, to get at your sources.list again
[09:02] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, thanks anyway, got to figure out why
[09:02] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, one sec.  Forgive my slowness.
[09:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: gl
[09:03] <timephoenix> room, need your help. Just received the Ubuntu CD the other day, impressed. However, I want to know what kind of music composition (ie Sibelius), recording, image editing and video editing software is available. Am I in the right place?
[09:03] <ian_> Madpilot: Ok, error msg is there, one sec while I get my souces.list.
[09:04] <johanbr> sethrd: Try modifying your xorg.conf - add a line like FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" and see if that helps. Looks like that package hasn't been converted over to using /usr/share/X11/fonts .
[09:04] <neo911> Madpilot, what test?
[09:04] <Madpilot> ian_, when you've got it, paste the URL to your pastebin here
[09:04] <murac|> i tryed to install vmware 5.0 to kubuntu 5.1, everything gone fine untill: (vmware:28722): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[09:04] <murac|> when i triend to start vmware..
[09:04] <sethrd> johanbr: Thank you very much kind sir. Is there anyway I can kind out where the fonts where installed to? I don't know off the top of my head. Will synaptics tell me?
[09:05] <johanbr> sethrd: I don't think synaptics can do it. If you type "dpkg -L packagename |more" in a terminal, that'll list all files belong to a specific package.
[09:05] <Madpilot> !+fonts
[09:05] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[09:05] <sethrd> johanbr: Thank you sir.
[09:06] <sethrd> Wow, slow as hell screen redrawing for some reason.
[09:06] <neo911> how do i change the screen resolution in ubuntu? thx
[09:07] <ian_> Madpilot: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10899  and   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10898
[09:07] <Ikoniak> how do I know what kernal I am using
[09:07] <Ikoniak> I forgot the command
[09:07] <sethrd> neo911: Go into System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution if you are using GNOME.
[09:07] <Ikoniak> Im sorry :(
[09:07] <sethrd> Ikoniak: uname -a
[09:07] <Ikoniak> hey thanks again!
[09:07] <vaxx> hello room
[09:08] <sethrd> johanbr: What was that command you said?
[09:08] <ian_> vaxx: Hello Vaxx.
[09:08] <Madpilot> ian_, looking, just a mo
[09:08] <vaxx> ian_: hey :)
[09:08] <ian_> Madpilot: <nodnods/chainsmokes some more...>
[09:08] <ian_> vaxx: I love this place. ;D
[09:08] <sethrd> johanbr: Nevermind. I got it.
[09:09] <Mythril> Out of the blue I can't access the net on one of my Ubuntu PCs, where do I start trouble shooting?
[09:09] <vaxx> ian_: yeah, I love too ubuntu, it rocks!
[09:09] <ian_> vaxx: Do I show red when I type to you?
[09:09] <Fracture> sethrd: I found this which does the trick : http://www.owasp.org/software/webscarab.html
[09:09] <johanbr> sethrd: You're quite welcome. If you want to test if the font path change helps without logging out, you can do "xset +fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc", followed by "xset fp rehash". If you can then see your new fonts, you can add '  FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"   ' to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and that change will be permanent.
[09:09] <vaxx> ian_: yes because it adverst the nick
[09:10] <ian_> vaxx: Just making certain.  New to Linux, Ubuntu and IRC.  :) <is general n00b tonight>
[09:10] <vaxx> ian_: if I dont write your nick, u dont showing the red :)
[09:10] <vaxx> oh me too heh
[09:10] <sethrd> johanbr: Yeah, I just added the path to my xorg.conf. The fonts where installed under /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc or something like that, and that wasn't a FontPath in my xorg.conf, so I added it.
[09:11] <ian_> vaxx: <nond> S'what I figured from what was 'splained to me.
[09:11] <Madpilot> ian_, I really can't figure out why that sources.list is giving you errors like that - nothing wrong with it AFAIK
[09:11] <sethrd> johanbr: Actually, it was that exact path you said.
[09:11] <foureight84> what's the channel for dapper support?
[09:11] <volcom_b0i> ubuntu+1
[09:11] <arrick>  #ubuntu+1
[09:11] <foureight84> thank you!
[09:11] <ian_> madpilot: Hmm, wish I'd saved my previous list then. It was more comprehensive than the one I pasted/saved...
[09:12] <volcom_b0i> I think everyone should log onto ATI's website and submit a tech support ticket about their poo drivers :)
[09:12] <arrick> hoa about doing the same for lexmark?
[09:12] <arrick> night all
[09:13] <Madpilot> ian_, here's my own sources.list - slightly different layout, but I **know** it works: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10900
[09:13] <sethrd> johanbr: I spoke too soon. On running xset +fp <dir> it tells me http://pastebin.com/624559
[09:14] <prudhvi> How do i make a curses based config file for Kernel Compilation ?
[09:14] <foureight84> i have a question
[09:14] <foureight84> i'm trying to get some codecs
[09:14] <foureight84> i followed the wiki guide
[09:14] <PistolPedro> hmm i can't get samba to work...
[09:14] <foureight84> and some of the files can't be downloaded from the universe and multiverse repository i have
[09:14] <ian_> madpilot: Ok, one sec...
[09:14] <foureight84> is there a list of multiverse and universe url's
[09:15] <Madpilot> foureight84, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:15] <foureight84> dapper
[09:15] <foureight84> everyone is dead in the other channel
[09:15] <foureight84> lol
[09:15] <Madpilot> foureight84, basic Dapper sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[09:16] <foureight84> thanks
[09:16] <johanbr> sethrd: Hmm, maybe your package version is different from mine. Try "dpkg -L xfonts-artwiz |more" to see where the fonts are located, should be something like "/usr/blah/blah/misc". Then use that directory with the xset line.
[09:16] <neo911> who is Funtklakow?
[09:16] <PistolPedro> Madpilot, could you help me get samba working?
[09:16] <Mythril> My eth0 device had always worked in the past, for some reason it has failed to come up on the last 3 reboots, and I don't know how to tinker with it, any pointers?
[09:16] <PistolPedro> Madpilot, i follwed the guide but no luck.
[09:16] <Madpilot> PistolPedro, probably not, I've never used samba
[09:16] <PistolPedro> Madpilot, okay thanks
[09:17] <ian_> madpilot: Similar message.  Similarly long. ;(
[09:17] <sethrd> johanbr: Yeah, restarting X didn't help either.
[09:17] <kingspwned> PistolPedro, there is a nice guide to samba on debian.org - might be helpful. i cant help, since i've never used samba, but ive read a bit about it.. :)
[09:17] <PistolPedro> kingspawn, okay, thanks
[09:17] <Madpilot> ian_, damned odd... close Synaptic again, and in the terminal, type "sudo apt-get update" - see what that does
[09:17] <kingspwned> worth a shot, anyway
[09:18] <ian_> Madpilot: Are the #signs supposed to be removed?  I left them there....
[09:18] <abisen> is there a source that i can add to install java 1.5
[09:18] <abisen> ?
[09:18] <Madpilot> ian_, the # things just comment stuff out
[09:18] <Madpilot> !tell abisen about java
[09:18] <sethrd> abisen: Get automatix
[09:18] <Madpilot> no, don't
[09:18] <ian_> Madpilot: So I can leave 'em then. <?>
[09:18] <Madpilot> !automatix
[09:18] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:19] <abisen> what is automatix
[09:19] <Madpilot> ian_, yes
[09:19] <foureight84> when add the url to the source list, is it "deb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666"?
[09:19] <sethrd> Hmmmm.
[09:19] <abisen> i dont want automatix i like the simplicity of ubuntu i would stick to the norms
[09:20] <DarthLappy> What's wrong with "echo -e 'y/nY/n'"?
[09:20] <Madpilot> foureight84, no - put that URL into a browser and copy the sample sources.list from that webpage
[09:20] <ian_> Madpilot: Terminal states "E: Invalid operation updatesude-"
[09:20] <foureight84> thanks
[09:21] <ian_> madpilot: oops, one sec
[09:21] <Madpilot> ian_, hmm - type exactly "sudo apt-get update"
[09:21] <sethrd> abisen: Automatix is simple.
[09:21] <Madpilot> abisen, see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:21] <johanbr> sethrd: There's something weird about the artwiz package. I'll go off and mess with it for a few minutes, let you know if I find anything.
[09:21] <ian_> madpilot: Yeah, I caught that.  It's...working I think...
[09:21] <sethrd> johanbr: Thank you.
[09:22] <Madpilot> DarthLappy, "echo -e 'y/nY/n'" just answers "yes" to all config questions, without giving the user a chance to even see them
[09:22] <DarthLappy> Madpilot, Ah, how...Clever...:P
[09:22] <ian_> madpilot: looks like showing repos....
[09:23] <Madpilot> ian_, error msgs or stuff about checking repos
[09:23] <Madpilot> ?
[09:23] <ian_> madpilot: The latter. ;)
[09:23] <Mythril> Anyone willing to help me with my network problems?
[09:23] <htrp> is there any web-based administration tools for apache?
[09:23] <htrp> like how to add hostname, etc
[09:24] <ian_> madpilot: Thankfully.  It says it's done checking them.  Fetched many urls.
[09:24] <carthik> htrp, well, if apache isn't working, you'll have no webservices, hence the apache configuration has to be edited on the terminal :)
[09:24] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[09:24] <carthik> Mythril, ask
[09:24] <Madpilot> ian_, cool - now restart Synaptic and try that install again
[09:24] <ian_> madpilot: Start SMP or gedit?
[09:24] <htrp> ic
[09:25] <ian_> madpilot: rgr.
[09:25] <Mythril> carthik: where do I look to find out why my eth0 device hasn't loaded the last 3 reboots?
[09:25] <Mythril> carthik: furthermore how do I load it manually
[09:26] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[09:26] <nekostar> eh
[09:26] <carthik> Mythril, you can look in the file /etc/network/interfaces -- then you will know if it is scheduled for automatic (there will be a line "auto eth0") loading on reboots
[09:26] <ian_> madpilot: Whatever that did, it did well!  VERY comprehensive list of Repos.
[09:26] <P3L|C4N0> Mythril,  add a line in interfaces file,  auto eth0
[09:26] <nekostar> whats the smallest office type suite
[09:26] <carthik> Mythril, to bring it up or down, use $sudo ifup eth0 and $sudo ifdown eth0
[09:26] <mockme> hi guys
[09:26] <ian_> madpilot: Retry getting my app?
[09:26] <Madpilot> ian_, good - not sure why the first attempt didn't work, though
[09:26] <Madpilot> ian_, yes
[09:26] <carthik> Mythril, you might want to check /etc/network/interfaces to see what it is set up for
[09:27] <foureight84> thank you Madpilot! i found the files i needed
[09:27] <mockme> can anyone help me how can i transfer folder using sftp?
[09:27] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[09:27] <carthik> Mythril, or, if you use gnome, use System->Adminstration->Networking which is graphical and maybe easier to handle
[09:27] <ian_> madpilot: <shrugs> I don't know enough to make a conjecture.  I'm simply pleased it seemed to do whatever you wanted me to tell it....ahh screw it. I got lost...
[09:27] <Mythril> carthik: I have "auto eth0" as the last line in my interfaces file, so I doubt that is my issue
[09:27] <Madpilot> ian_, heh. Aren't computers fun? :P
[09:27] <m0s^> is there a way to change properties for my Wlan network card ? i think it's in "power save mode" and i only download in 10kb/s :/
[09:27] <carthik> Mythril, okay
[09:28] <carthik> Mythril, try looking at how it is configured to work, maybe it is not set up right, or there is something else that is the problem witht he network
[09:28] <ian_> Madpilot: Still getting error prompt when clicking on the app I want tho.
[09:28] <carthik> m0s^, it isn't nice to repeat questions too often, if someone here knew, they'd be helping you.
[09:28] <nekostar> anyone?
[09:28] <P3L|C4N0> m0s^,  wireless-rate
[09:28] <Madpilot> ian_, which one is it again?
[09:28] <ian_> madpilot: Unistallable or won't be installed...
[09:29] <nekostar> is there another option besides abiword suite and openoffice >?
[09:29] <m0s^> carthik i know, sry, but im just so frustrated :(
[09:29] <pjv>  i need to open a pdf file, but i want to use "wine C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 5.0\Acrobat\Acrobat.exe " but that command doesn't allow it, is there another way to make Acrobat open pdf files in gnome?
[09:29] <PistolPedro> pjv, why use adobe, use evince ... no need for wine
[09:29] <Madpilot> pjv, there's a Linux-native version of acrobat Reader
[09:29] <PistolPedro> sudo apt-get install evince
[09:29] <samu2> Are there any postscript experts here?
[09:29] <carthik> m0s^, well, you can look up the details of /etc/network/interfaces, search on google etc ...
[09:29] <P3L|C4N0> m0s^, copy and paste /etc/network/interfaces
[09:30] <ian_> Madpilot: Under the heading of: The following packages have unresolved dependencies.  Make sure that all required repos are added and enable in the prefs.
[09:30] <pjv> maddler: i need the writer
[09:30] <pjv> errr
[09:30] <Madpilot> ian_, yes, but what's the name of the app you want?
[09:30] <pjv> Madpilot: i need the writer
[09:31] <Madpilot> pjv, ah. Nevermind, then
[09:31] <pjv> PistolPedro: evince, is that a writer aswell?
[09:31] <ian_> Madpilot: Boson (Command and Conquer style wargame)
[09:31] <PistolPedro> pjv, i don't know .
[09:31] <ian_> Madpilot: This is just the first of many apps tho.
[09:32] <pjv> ohh ok no worries
[09:32] <Madpilot> ian_, I get the same set of errors with boson
[09:32] <AlphaFaction> Hi guys, just wondering if somone could help? I was copying files to my mp3 player the other day in ubuntu and for some reason they did not copy properly and only half showed up on the mp3 player, now when i try and boot the computer it tells me that their is an error as i am out of space and is unable to launch gnome, any ideas?
[09:32] <Madpilot> pjv, for PDF creation in Linux, try Scribus
[09:32] <ian_> Madpilot: Hrmmmm.....
[09:33] <pulver> anyone know an app for generating a website? lets say by writing some text, attaching some images and/or some files. no wysiwyg, no blog, client side, simple gui tool yea thats about it :) any ideas?
[09:34] <pjv> maddler: i tried it, my pdf have graphical logos, and they just don't show nicely, as in you can see them, they are all shadowed
[09:34] <Madpilot> ian_, it looks like that whole set of boson packages are FUBAR'd
[09:35] <kingspwned> pulver, i suggest vi :)
[09:35] <pjv> damn auto nick completion
[09:35] <Madpilot> ian_, and there aren't any boson bugs filed at Ubuntu's bugtracker
[09:35] <fluxt> afternoon
[09:35] <pjv> Madpilot: i mean :)
[09:35] <Mythril> how to I request a new IP address from my router?
[09:35] <kingspwned> fluxt, morning is more like it ;)
[09:36] <kingspwned> Mythril, dhclient eth0, maybe?
[09:36] <Naota> I need help, whenever I try loading ubuntu (5.10) my computer always hangs on loading the hotplug subsystem
[09:36] <Naota> any ideas?
[09:36] <carthik> Mythril, with dhcp, that happens automatically each time you ifdown and ifup
[09:36] <pulver> kingspwned: ok :) i could do the html in vi, but want to give the tool to a computer illiterate person
[09:36] <ian_> Madpilot: In essence: Give up on this package.  Yeah?
[09:37] <Madpilot> ian_, looks like it, yeah
[09:37] <Madpilot> ian_, you could file a bug about it here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:38] <Mythril> carthik: ok, I still have no idea what is going on, ifup says eth0 is configured, but I still do not have access
[09:39] <pulver> made a script but the cli scared the crap out of the user
[09:39] <ian_> Madpilot: Umm, not registered and not sure what format to write it in...
[09:39] <carthik> Mythril, okay, so does your router use dhcp for the clients?
[09:39] <Madpilot> ian_, English :P
[09:40] <carthik> Mythril, once (no kidding) I hadn't paid my bill and that is why the damn thing wasn't working!!!
[09:40] <PistolPedro> carthik, happend to me once too
[09:40] <Madpilot> ian_, and registry on LP is fairly straightforward
[09:40] <Mythril> carthik: yeah, it does
[09:40] <ian_> Madpilot: You remind me of my Father.  (That's a mighty compliment in my book, FYI)
[09:40] <carthik> PistolPedro, and it took me a hell of a lot of time to "discover" that :)
[09:40] <Mythril> carthik: if I weren't paid up I wouldn't be in this channel :)
[09:40] <Madpilot> ian_, yikes!
[09:41] <Mythril> carthik: real strange thing is that it work just a day or so ago
[09:41] <ian_> Madpilot: <laughs> Similar responses as him.  Esp when I'm being stupid. ;)
[09:41] <Mythril> only thing that has changed recently is that I have replaced my wireless to ethernet bridge
[09:41] <ian_> madpilot: It's a good thing.
[09:41] <johanbr> sethrd: Alright, I got my X server to recognize the artwiz fonts. I put a script to do what I did at http://nullinfinity.org/fontscript . You can download that, and then do "sudo bash /path/to/fontscript" and hopefully that'll get the fonts working for you too. The script is probably not optimal, but at least it shouldn't do any damage. The worst thing that can happen is that you'll end up with extra some symbolic links in a font directory.
[09:41] <Naota> does anyone hvae any ideas on fixing my hotplug thing?
[09:41] <Madpilot> ian_, OK, I believe you (I think...)
[09:41] <carthik> Mythril, right, alright, so to get back to the topic o discussion... Hmm, okay, so is "iface eth0 inet dhcp " in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:42] <ian_> madpilot: ;)
[09:42] <carthik> Mythril, whoa, so why the bridge?
[09:42] <Mythril> carthik: yes it is
[09:42] <carthik> Mythril, have you yet tried power-cycling the router?
[09:43] <Mythril> carthik: no I haven't, worth a shot
[09:43] <carthik> Mythril, you can try debugging from the other end, ie, you can open up the web-admin interface for the rotuer and see if the logs show the requests for IP leases from this particular computer
[09:43] <ian_> Madpilot: Holy Crap!!! I just saw what time it is...I think I lost an hour somewhere!  I gotta go to sleep!  Work in the morning <shudders at mornings>
[09:43] <Mythril> carthik: Might dissappear for a moment
[09:43] <ian_> Madpilot: Again, thanks for the help.
[09:43] <carthik> Mythril, i'll be around
[09:44] <Madpilot> ian_, no problem, and good luck w/ Ubuntu!
[09:44] <ian_> Madpilot: I already am...BTW, if you live in/near oregon (look up freegeek on gmail)
[09:44] <sethrd> johanbr: I see you put the rehash in the script. That means I don't have to restart X, correct? I just ran it after looking over the code, and it looks good from here (not really a coder), but the font's still aren't there.
[09:44] <Madpilot> ian_, I'm north of you, across the border in BC
[09:45] <Devin_> hi
[09:45] <Madpilot> ian_, you involved in the Portland Freegeek stuff?
[09:45] <johanbr> sethrd: That's correct. Does "xlsfonts |grep artwiz" print anything?
[09:45] <ian_> madpilot: Yikes! Lucky you...No W to worry about./
[09:45] <sethrd> johanbr: Yeah, quite a bit of stuff.
[09:45] <Madpilot> ian_, yup - but we really should move the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <ian_> madpilot: Would but bed.  You have an IM I can send my Email addy to?
[09:46] <Devin_> i upgraded from breezy to dapper a few weeks ago (Flight 4 + or - ), and Applications, System, etc... menu dissapeared from the panel. Now i'm suffering this error: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/36600, so I have losts my menus, and i can add nothing to the panel. Any ideas on how to revocer "the lost menus"?  Thnx in advance
[09:46] <TSCHAK> does anyone have an example of the 320x200 etc doublescan modelines?
[09:47] <ian_> madpilot: How to send private messages here?
[09:47] <Madpilot> ian_, /msg Madpilot <your message>
[09:48] <Madpilot> Devin_, #ubuntu+1 for Dapper issus
[09:48] <TSCHAK> anyone?
[09:48] <Madpilot> *issues, even
[09:48] <johanbr> sethrd: Okay, that means that the X server sees the fonts, which is good. Now what remains is to get gnome to see them too. I'll disappear for a few minutes again...
[09:48] <Devin_> sorry and thnx
[09:49] <ian_> Madpilot: Good night and thanks again.
[09:49] <Madpilot> ian_, no problem - didn't get your /msg, though - did you try it?
[09:49] <ian_> General: Goodnight all.  And good luck with your probs.
[09:49] <ian_> madpilot: I did.
[09:50] <Madpilot> ian_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Madpilot <-- my userpage on the wiki, w/ email addy
[09:50] <ian_> madpilot: Was just sending email and IM info cuz I'm not certain how safe it would be to post it in here.
[09:51] <Madpilot> ian_, you registered here on Freenode? you can't send pm's w/o registering
[09:52] <ian_> madpilot: Nope, not yet.
[09:52] <PistolPedro> how do i get a wiki page :-P
[09:52] <PistolPedro> i help here 24//7 :-P
[09:52] <ian_> Madpilot: I'll send you an email.
[09:52] <ian_> Madpilot: Really gotta leave now tho.  Goodnight.
[09:52] <Madpilot> PistolPedro, just start editing the wiki - your username is your wiki page
[09:52] <PistolPedro> i see
[09:55] <wulax> when I try to boot my custom kernel it hangs at the line "pnp: PnP ACPI init". any ideas on what is wrong?
[09:56] <Naota> any ideas on why it hangs on my hotplug subsystem loading?
[09:56] <wulax> no, sorry...
[09:56] <maruchan> quick question on a program. what prgoam can make mea  cue bin iso
[09:56] <kingspwned> wulax, try booting with the acpi=off
[09:56] <kingspwned> maruchan, dd
[09:56] <wulax> ah, good idea, thanks kingspwned
[09:56] <maruchan> dd? is that  program
[09:57] <kingspwned> no cue, tho
[09:57] <kingspwned> maruchan, man dd
[09:57] <kingspwned> maruchan, something along the lines of dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/yo/file.iso
[09:57] <kingspwned> just reads the whole system into a file
[09:57] <kingspwned> you can use it on anything, but be sure to get if (in file) and of (out file) correct
[09:57] <BlueHeron> don't need cue's for .iso
[09:57] <kingspwned> this baby will nullify just about anything if you go wrong
[09:58] <maruchan> okay thx
[09:58] <kingspwned> maruchan, but k3b will probably have that feature, and it will be a little safer :)
[09:58] <BlueHeron> k3b can burn .iso's and .bin/cue i don't think it makes them though
[09:59] <kingspwned> hm, okay
[09:59] <kingspwned> weird
[09:59] <BlueHeron> < PistolPedro
[09:59] <BlueHeron> i finally settled on a nick
[09:59] <StarQuake> cp /dev/cdrom file.iso
[09:59] <StarQuake> :P
[09:59] <gnu_style> use NERO
[09:59] <StarQuake> but i guess dd has buffering
[10:00] <YukiCuss> StarQuake, that wouldn't work.
[10:00] <YukiCuss> It would just copy the device file, if I think correctly.
[10:00] <YukiCuss> You'd want cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso.
[10:00] <StarQuake> it does work i assure you
[10:00] <YukiCuss> Hmm.
[10:01] <TorChile> do any of you use other distros
[10:01] <TorChile> ??
[10:01] <YukiCuss> StarQuake, what the heck, why was I thinking of making a link .. (don't mind me :))
[10:01] <StarQuake> TorChile, yes, Fedora Core, CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux
[10:01] <TorChile> anyone used Arch here
[10:02] <sethrd> Wow, don't know what the hell that was all about...
[10:02] <BlueHeron> user@System:~/Desktop$ cp /media/cdrom0 tool.iso
[10:02] <BlueHeron> cp: omitting directory `/media/cdrom0'
[10:02] <BlueHeron> doesn't work friend.
[10:02] <BlueHeron> makes plain text document of 0 bytes
[10:02] <BlueHeron> :-P
[10:02] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, wrong file.
[10:02] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, you want /dev/cdrom
[10:03] <sethrd> You can't just do it that can.
[10:03] <sethrd> That way rather.
[10:03] <YukiCuss> sethrd, you can.
[10:03] <YukiCuss> I made two ISOs the other day to take to my friend, except I used cat; the method is the same, however.
[10:03] <sethrd> YukiCuss: If he is trying to make an exact copy of the CD, no.
[10:03] <BlueHeron> ahh. it does work now.
[10:03] <BlueHeron> thanks
[10:03] <BlueHeron> i learned a thing.
[10:03] <YukiCuss> sethrd, how so?
[10:03] <ian_> madpilot:  Bloody hell...Could you resend me that string that updated my repos lit?
[10:03] <ian_> madpilot: *list even?
[10:04] <Madpilot> ian_, sure - just a sec
[10:04] <Mythril> carthik: lspci doesn't list my ethernet device, does this mean anything?
[10:04] <sethrd> YukiCuss: I was always under the impression that cp <device> just copied all the files off the disk, not copied the disk.
[10:04] <ian_> madpilot: My roomy needs it. :)
[10:04] <BlueHeron> user@System:~/Desktop$ cp /dev/cdrom tool.iso
[10:04] <BlueHeron> cp: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error
[10:04] <BlueHeron> whats that caused by ?
[10:04] <Madpilot> ian_, do you just mean "sudo apt-get update" - or the whole thing, including the working sources.list pastebin?
[10:04] <YukiCuss> sethrd, not at all. cp has no knowledge of the disk structure.
[10:04] <BlueHeron> it got to 200 mb
[10:05] <carthik> Mythril, well, if it does not, what has been up-ing and down-ing all this while
[10:05] <YukiCuss> BlueHeron, check dmesg|tail
[10:05] <carthik> Mythril, maybe the card has come loose
[10:05] <sethrd> YukiCuss: Exactly, it doesn't know the disk structure, which is why you shouldn't use it to make an ISO.
[10:05] <ian_> madpilot: Nope, that's the string...