[11:33] <Fujitsu> Moodles, save all work and press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
[11:33] <kimbaroth> ic56: 3rd char is an "r"
[11:33] <Fujitsu> spanglesontoast, smb://server/share
[11:33] <boguh> im still running debian on my machine and thinking about installing ubuntu. what are the advantages of ubuntu compared to debian etch?
[11:33] <ic56> kimbaroth: this cannot be.  It must either be a w or a dash.
[11:33] <Fujitsu> boguh, more frequent releases, better desktop support.
[11:33] <Fujitsu> Hi, thoreauputic.
[11:33] <kimbaroth> ic56: oops sorry, its an -
[11:33] <Mageknight> anyone know how to upgrade to 6.06 LTS????
[11:33] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Mageknight about upgrade
[11:33] <thoreauputic> hii Fujitsu :)
[11:33] <spanglesontoast> nope still doesn't want to connecto it
[11:33] <Fujitsu> Mageknight, see the message from ubotu.
[11:33] <kimbaroth> ic56: my mistake -_-'
[11:34] <boguh> Fujitsu i just need sth stable, no xgl or so
[11:34] <Fujitsu> spanglesontoast, which version of Ubuntu?
[11:34] <spanglesontoast> dapper
[11:34] <Fujitsu> spanglesontoast, that's very odd.
[11:34] <ubuntu> kubuntu is kinda nice...
[11:34] <thoreauputic> ah
[11:34] <Fujitsu> boguh, it looks nicer :)
[11:34] <thoreauputic> heh oops
[11:35] <spanglesontoast> what could be missing fujitsu?
[11:35] <boguh> Fujitsu hehe
[11:35] <Fujitsu> spanglesontoast, I'm not sure.
[11:35] <extern> how to make numlock to be already on each time I start my computer?
[11:35] <ic56> kimbaroth: mmm, gedit is rather primitive.  Ok, we'll have to do this the slow way.  Make a backup of the file and change the permissions like so: sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
[11:35] <ic56>  sudo cp /etc/fstab.old /etc/fstab
[11:35] <ic56>  sudo chmod 644 /etc/fstab
[11:35] <Moodles> Fujitsu: thanks
[11:35] <Fujitsu> ic56, how's it primitive.
[11:35] <sugoruyo> am i invisible or something?
[11:35] <Frogzoo> sugoruyo: seems so :p
[11:35] <kimbaroth> ic56: done
[11:35] <ubuntu> well.. Im a sucker for looks
[11:36] <ic56> kimbaroth: all 3 commands done?
[11:36] <ubuntu> since my eyes suck
[11:36] <kimbaroth> ic56: aha
[11:36] <zcat[1] > sugoruyo who?
[11:36] <Seveas> Mornin' Ubuntu lovers
[11:36] <Hawkins> I'm trying to run linux installer, but it gives following error: "error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" , could somebody help ?
[11:36] <ic56> Fujitsu: let's discuss this when I'm done with kimbaroth
[11:36] <sugoruyo> i keep asking for help on the same thing 2 days now, and people ask me what the problem is
[11:36] <thoreauputic> morning Seveas :)
[11:36] <c0nfidencal> oh, and 1 more thing - when i boot into live cd, by deafult there is errror "cannot start xserver" or smth like that, when i edit xorg.conf, change driver from ati, to radeon, startx - then it works. ...after ubuntu install - do i need to install drivers, or they will be already installed?
[11:36] <Fujitsu> Morning, Seveas!
[11:36] <sugoruyo> but then i get no answer
[11:36] <Frogzoo> sugoruyo: have you tried google?
[11:36] <Hawkins> Good day Seveas
[11:36] <ic56> kimbaroth: have you created the mountpoint yet?  What did you call it?
[11:37] <zcat[1] > sugoruyo: probably means nobody knows the answer.
[11:37] <Fujitsu> c0nfidencal, if it works on the Live CD, it should work on the installed system.
[11:37] <B1zz> Buenos Dias Seveas
[11:37] <sugoruyo> yeah but nooen says hmmm dunno
[11:37] <d3s> hello, I've checked on ubuntuforums.org but still doesn't work. I need help with my wifi, thinkpad t41, intel2100 b. It doesn't want to associate with my router
[11:37] <kimbaroth> ic56: /media/windows
[11:37] <ubuntu> Kubuntu recognizes ntfs hdd's?
[11:37] <ubuntu> or is that a feature of Dapper
[11:37] <zcat[1] > or just too many people talking at the time..
[11:37] <sugoruyo> everyone says what the prob?
[11:37] <c0nfidencal> ye, i know. but do i need to install ati drivers on installed? :?
[11:37] <Fujitsu> ubuntu, yes.
[11:37] <sugoruyo> then nothing
[11:37] <Fujitsu> sugoruyo, because we don't know the answer.
[11:37] <makelele> i lostmy keybindings . ie ctrl-alt-f1 etc can someone help me to fix this
[11:37] <thoreauputic> !patience
[11:37] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[11:37] <ubuntu> yes to which?
[11:37] <ubuntu> Fujitsu:
[11:37] <sugoruyo> i keep typing from the other machine the error messages time after time
[11:37] <zcat[1] > tell me the problem and I'll say 'dunno' if you like..
[11:37] <ubuntu> :)
[11:38] <sugoruyo> i've been patient for two days
[11:38] <ic56> kimbaroth: /media is a poor choice because it is intended for *removable* media. "windows" is a poor choice because it doesn't allow for additional partitions/disks to be added in the future.
[11:38] <KenSentMe> sugoruyo, have you changed anything else in your system other then installing ubuntu?
[11:38] <sugoruyo> i understand you're volunteers
[11:38] <sugoruyo> no
[11:38] <Schalken> help! i did something funny and now flash movies wont play sound!
[11:38] <ic56> kimbaroth: may I recommend /local/windows1 ?
[11:38] <KenSentMe> sugoruyo, no other cable, etc?
[11:38] <Seveas> Schalken, then undo what you did ;)
[11:38] <Fujitsu> Schalken, what did you actually do?
[11:38] <sugoruyo> it works on live sometimes it works on mepis live
[11:38] <kimbaroth> ic56: oooooook, im gonna change it to that one =)
[11:38] <sugoruyo> it works on windows
[11:38] <Fujitsu> ic56, that breaks the directory structure.
[11:38] <kimbaroth> ic56: wait
[11:38] <Fujitsu> ic56, /mnt/something is a better choice.
[11:38] <ubuntu> Fujitsu: which did you say yes to? thanks
[11:39] <c0nfidencal> Fujitsu: ye, i know. but do i need to install ati drivers on installed? :? ...or no need? just change ati to radeon and thats all?
[11:39] <Fujitsu> ubuntu, oh. It does read NTFS drives, and has for almost ever.  Trying to install the nforce drivers and they are being a pain ~_~ Help is kindly appreciated :)
[11:39] <zcat[1] > sorry, i missed the question. What works on windows and sometimes on mephis?
[11:39] <c0nfidencal> Fujitsu: ok, big thx!
[11:39] <Seveas> sugoruyo, not everyone reads all the time - that's why people ask what the problem is
[11:39] <ubuntu> Fujitsu: breezy Ubuntu couldn't read my hdd... hmm..
[11:39] <alth> Ok, can someone help me with my sound? I have Logitech X530 5.1 speakers, Intel onboard 5.1, but the sound is only coming from my front 3 speakers :|
[11:39] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell emsa about nvidia
[11:39] <Mageknight> how do you install the skins for beep player
[11:39] <pascalFR> !kubuntu
[11:39] <ubotu> kubuntu is, like, Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[11:39] <ubuntu> problem solved I suppose :)
[11:39] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell ubuntu about windowsdrives
[11:39] <Seveas> Mageknight, put them in ~/.bmp/Skins
[11:39] <Mageknight> the sudo command for its skin doesnt work
[11:40] <Fujitsu> emsa, see the link from ubotu.
[11:40] <KenSentMe> zcat[1] , sugoruyo has problems with his network.
[11:40] <fsdfsadsdada> join mp3-free
[11:40] <sugoruyo> i just said that people just stop responding right after saying that
[11:40] <liquidindian> !dma
[11:40] <sugoruyo> like it's some sort of being polite and that's all
[11:40] <Fujitsu> sugoruyo, people will do that if they don't know the answer...
[11:40] <pascalFR> !kubuntu-fr
[11:40] <Seveas> sugoruyo, then they're too ashamed that they don't know the answer
[11:40] <emsa> Thanks :)
[11:40] <ubotu> pascalFR: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:40] <makelele> i lostmy keybindings . ie ctrl-alt-f1 etc can someone help me to fix this -anyone please
[11:40] <sugoruyo> :P
[11:40] <Schalken> Fujitsu: lol, its probably something i did in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", or it could be that i installed xgl? i dont know what i did that made flash sound stop working, any ideas?
[11:40] <BiSK-8> the new ubuntu disk is 714mb large, i only have a 700mb disk.. will it fit?
[11:40] <sonium> hi, how can I change the target of my keyboard volume control?
[11:40] <Schalken> !flash
[11:40] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:40] <ubuntu> BiSK-8: no!
[11:40] <ic56> Fujitsu: the trouble is /mnt is meant as quick and dirty mount point.  People don't expect it to contain subdirectories.  /local is a convention used in some unix shops for local disks (as opposed to NFS-mounted disks)
[11:40] <sugoruyo> and i'm stuck on with a network
[11:40] <Fujitsu> BiSK-8, you'll need to overburn.
[11:40] <kimbaroth> ic56: ok, it is /mnt/windows1
[11:40] <Seveas> sugoruyo, if you don't mind repeating the problem again, I could have a try at solving it
[11:41] <BiSK-8> fujitsu: how can i do that?
[11:41] <zcat[1] > so what's the symtop? does it find the device at all?
[11:41] <c0nfidencal> BiSK-8: i think it will
[11:41] <Fujitsu> BiSK-8, what software?
[11:41] <ubuntu> hey Madpilot
[11:41] <pascalFR> !keyboard
[11:41] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pascalFR
[11:41] <Madpilot> hi
[11:41] <alth> BiSK-8, , I think you'll find it's 698mb big. ;)
[11:41] <ROBOd> hey guys
[11:41] <pascalFR> !keybinding
[11:41] <ubotu> somebody said keybinding was console command  "gnome-keybinding-properties"    Need more info  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys
[11:41] <george_looney> Seveas: /etc/init.d/network gives errors on him
[11:41] <Fujitsu> alth, depends on which one.
[11:41] <ROBOd> i've read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[11:41] <BiSK-8> fujitsu: k3b
[11:41] <Fujitsu> BiSK-8, and which CD image?
[11:41] <ROBOd> according to the page i need the alternate CD for upgrading my ubuntu 5.10
[11:41] <george_looney> Seveas: he has onboard RTL8139 LAN card
[11:41] <alth> Fujitsu: What would be bigger than 700mb?
[11:42] <ROBOd> i already have the desktop CD
[11:42] <Fujitsu> alth, the PPC Desktop CD, for one.
[11:42] <ROBOd> this means i cannot upgrade?
[11:42] <ic56> kimbaroth: might I strongly advise not to use /mnt ?  In the future, someone helping you will likely assume /mnt is available as a temporary mount point and the instructions you'll be given won't workl
[11:42] <Fujitsu> Great to have a reliable internet connection, thoreauputic.
[11:42] <ROBOd> i must download the alternate CD?
[11:42] <Frogzoo> sugoruyo: try rebooting & add "irqpoll" to grub's boot line.
[11:42] <george_looney> Seveas: he si using static IPs
[11:42] <Fujitsu> ROBOd, you need the alternate CD.
[11:42] <Seveas> george_looney/sugoruyo: hmm, rtl should work ootb.
[11:42] <BiSK-8> fujitsu: what do u mean by which cd image... its the one for x86
[11:42] <kimbaroth> ic56: ok, lemme change it^^'
[11:42] <ROBOd> thanks
[11:42] <ROBOd> bye
[11:42] <Seveas> sugoruyo, soucld you pastebin those errors and /etc/network/interfaces for me
[11:42] <Fujitsu> BiSK-8, I don't think its > 700MiB...
[11:43] <ic56> kimbaroth: sudo mkdir -p /local/windows1
[11:43] <Frogzoo> sugoruyo: it's a known problem with irq polling with the rtl - google knows about the issue
[11:43] <zcat[1] > one thing I have observed with networking (twice now) is laptops that seem to take a while to bring the ethernet up. dhclient runs before the network is fully running and fails to get a lease.. at least I think that's what happens because if we run it a second time it always works.
[11:43] <Seveas> soucld??? man mt spelling sucks today... I meant could
[11:43] <BiSK-8> fujitsu: im downloading it now, try it
[11:43] <sugoruyo> i can't get the network up, dmesg says ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0:link is not ready
[11:43] <kimbaroth> ic56: done
[11:43] <ic56> kimbaroth: the -p saves you from having to issue mkdir twice.
[11:43] <sugoruyo> network is configured as static ip
[11:43] <sugoruyo> with no conflicts
[11:43] <thoreauputic> Fujitsu: heh - yeah assuming people only ever use IRC , skype or gaim to contact you ;-) The phone just gets in the way!
[11:43] <ic56> kimbaroth: now sudo chmod 755 /local/windows1
[11:43] <george_looney> Seveas: do you think maybe the cabele is loose
[11:43] <zcat[1] > well, there was my wild stab in the dark :)
[11:43] <kimbaroth> ic56: oh I see
[11:43] <Frogzoo> sugoruyo: this is why people won't help you - you won't read what's already offered :p
[11:43] <pascalFR> !network
[11:43] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[11:43] <pascalFR> !ip
[11:43] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pascalFR
[11:43] <Seveas> george_looney, not improbable, but I like to see errors+config first
[11:43] <pascalFR> !tcpip
[11:43] <ubotu> pascalFR: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:44] <Frogzoo> sugoruyo: see: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-104082.html
[11:44] <kimbaroth> ic56: done, whats 755 for?
[11:44] <Fujitsu> BiSK-8, the Ubuntu 6.06 i386 alternate and desktop CDs are 693MiB and 698MiB respectively.
[11:44] <Fujitsu> pascalFR, please PM the bot in this sort of situation.
[11:44] <BiSK-8> fujitsu: alternate?
[11:44] <pascalFR> hum  sorry
[11:44] <BiSK-8> fujitsu: i got this one: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ the 1st one u see
[11:44] <thoreauputic> !alternate
[11:44] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is the classical Ubuntu text-installer, with no Live session available on it.
[11:44] <ic56> 755 tells it the permissions should be: read-write-search for owner and read-search (no write) for group and other
[11:44] <makelele> thanks all ,but it is not my multimedia keys that are not working .if i hit ctrl-alt-f1 for a terminal nothing happens
[11:44] <zcat[1] > Fujitsu: damn annoying. i have a whole spool of 650M blanks and no idea what I'm going to use them for now!!!
[11:44] <BiSK-8> oh ok
[11:44] <BiSK-8> ty then
[11:45] <Fujitsu> BiSK-8, that's only 693MiB.
[11:45] <ic56> kimbaroth: chmod also accepts a mnemonic notation but it's more typing (man chmod for more info)
[11:45] <BiSK-8> fujitsu: no it itsnt
[11:45] <Fujitsu> BiSK-8, oops. 698MiB.
[11:45] <BiSK-8> fujitsu: its 708
[11:45] <sugoruyo> well i'm not really familiar with linux
[11:45] <B1zz> zcat music?
[11:45] <sugoruyo> so i don't know what all that sutff means
[11:45] <ic56> kimbaroth: finally edit /etc/fstab.   Trust us. It's 698.
[11:46] <KenSentMe> I want to install the knowledgtree package, but when i do apt-get it wants to install all kinds of php4 packages, while i'm using php5. How can i solve this other than manually install knowledgetree?
[11:46] <BiSK-8> alth, oh ok
[11:46] <kimbaroth> ic56: w??
[11:46] <Seveas> sugoruyo, please put your /etc/network/interfaces on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:46] <george_looney> sugoruyo: does it work perfectly with Windows?
[11:46] <sugoruyo> yes
[11:46] <Seveas> sugoruyo, a wild guess: did you specify the card as "iface eth0 inet manual"?
[11:46] <alth> Hey Fujitsu , do we have Frostwire for Dapper yet?
[11:46] <sugoruyo> i didn't make any setting via terminal
[11:47] <sugoruyo> it did work on occasion on the live
[11:47] <Fujitsu> alth, why do you ask me?
[11:47] <KenSentMe> sugoruyo, please do what seveas says
[11:47] <sugoruyo> and also on simplymepis live and debian sarge
[11:47] <alth> Fujitsu: Because you know everything ^_^
[11:47] <sugoruyo> i'll try
[11:47] <kimbaroth> ic56: or wich ones?
[11:47] <Fujitsu> alth, not quite :)
[11:47] <george_looney> thats weird with sugoruyo
[11:47] <alth> Well almost :P
[11:47] <ic56> kimbaroth: in /etc/fstab, copy an existing line and modify the copy to contain this: /dev/sda1  /local/windows1 ntfs ro,uid=<your usersername> 0 2
[11:47] <daniel_bergamini> how can I tell whether the kernel is using ACPI or just APM for a laptop (tablet)?
[11:48] <alth> Fine though. Room, does anyone know if we have Frostwire for Dapper yet?
[11:48] <B1zz> ummm
[11:48] <Fujitsu> alth, there is no package for it... Although I don't know what you're talking about.
[11:48] <kimbaroth> ic56: done
[11:48] <B1zz> you can dl the frostwire .deb from theire site
[11:48] <alth> Fujitsu, it was in the Breezy repos, wasn't it?
[11:48] <Fujitsu> alth, I don't think so.
[11:48] <Frogzoo> daniel_bergamini: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state   etc..
[11:49] <alth> Oh. Strange, I swear I remember apt-getting it.
[11:49] <ic56> kimbaroth: once you've exited the editor, do this: sudo mount /local/windows1 .  Tell me what happens.
[11:49] <B1zz> and just install java before you install frostwire
[11:49] <kimbaroth> ic56: should I put uid=<kimbaroth> or uid=kimbaroth ???
[11:49] <Fujitsu> alth, there is a deb available, I think.
[11:49] <ic56> kimbaroth: omit the angle brackets
[11:49] <utab> ji
[11:49] <utab> hi
[11:49] <B1zz> yeah there is and its an ubuntu one too :-p
[11:49] <utab> sorry
[11:49] <kimbaroth> ic56: ok
[11:49] <koasd> how to make .deb packages in ubuntu?
[11:49] <Fujitsu> Hi, utab.
[11:49] <Fujitsu> koasd, for what?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !frostwire
[11:49] <ubotu> hmm... frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWire
[11:49] <daniel_bergamini> Frogzoo thanks, will check it out. having a problem when poweroff just says "Will now halt", shuts the disk down but leaves the screen and computer on
[11:49] <utab> yeah I have asimple question for u
[11:50] <utab> I would like to configure wine
[11:50] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell utab about wine
[11:50] <Frogzoo> daniel_bergamini: update your vid card to latest if possible
[11:50] <Fujitsu> utab, please see the link ubotu sent you.
[11:50] <utab> but could not do
[11:50] <Mageknight> Seveas: where is the file destination of the .bmp skins???
[11:50] <Frogzoo> daniel_bergamini: update your vid card *driver* to latest if possible
[11:50] <daniel_bergamini> Frogzoo hmm, interesting I don't think I have the /proc/acpi folder, which would explain it
[11:50] <thoreauputic> !tell koad about checkinstall
[11:50] <kimbaroth> ic56: Sorry, but I still dont have permission to write that file
[11:50] <extern> is there a 64 bit version of flash player?
[11:50] <Fujitsu> daniel_bergamini, you've got no ACPI, then/
[11:50] <Fujitsu> extern, no.
[11:50] <neutrinomass> I tried installing kde with 'sudo apt-get install kde' , but it fails on knetwork conf : http://pastebin.com/757250
[11:51] <Fujitsu> extern, you might like to try gnash.
[11:51] <zcat[1] > nor a PPC version :(
[11:51] <extern> gnash?
[11:51] <daniel_bergamini> Frogzoo it's a very old fujistu stylistic 3400 tablet pc,
[11:51] <utab> say sorry which one
[11:51] <thoreauputic> koasd: checkinstall will make a deb for you
[11:51] <ic56> kimbaroth: you mean /etc/fstab?  gedit is complaining when you try to save your changes?
[11:51] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell extern about flash.
[11:51] <daniel_bergamini> but I believe it supports ACPI, will try ACPI=force in grub and see what happens
[11:51] <Schalken> Fujitsu: okay i got sound working in flash, but now im experiencing in flash what i did in opengl. there is something always interrupting the flash video, and it freezes for a second or two and keeps going. is it possible to see what application keeps periodically hogging the CPU every second or so?
[11:51] <daniel_bergamini> already tried nolapic, that didn't help
[11:51] <utab> I have installed wine
[11:51] <kimbaroth> ic56: aha, it says that I dont have necessary permissions to save the file
[11:51] <zcat[1] > there's the opensource swf stuff but it's not up to playing stuff like neopets. :(
[11:51] <Fujitsu> daniel_bergamini, is it a recent laptop?
[11:51] <sugoruyo> ok now i'm getting some stuff onto the usb flash drive to put it up
[11:51] <Fujitsu> zcat[1] , not yet, unfortunately.
[11:51] <utab> but I have to make some configurations on C drive
[11:52] <sugoruyo> can give the link again
[11:52] <hpoc> hi. how i can make an security update with terminal?
[11:52] <Fujitsu> sugoruyo, link for what?
[11:52] <Fujitsu> hpoc, download any security updates?
[11:52] <daniel_bergamini> Fujitsu no it's a very old Fujitsu Stylistic 3400, circa < 2000 I believe
[11:52] <sugoruyo> to paste
[11:52] <KenSentMe> !pastebin
[11:52] <makelele> how do i get ctrl-alt-f1 to f6 working ?
[11:52] <Fujitsu> !paste
[11:52] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:52] <ic56> kimbaroth: that must be because you forgot to use sudo.  You'll have to abort (or save to an alternate filename) and restart with sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:52] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[11:52] <daniel_bergamini> running the newest BIOS thouhg
[11:52] <Schalken> maybe Gaim is the app thats making everything run crappy. brb
[11:52] <KenSentMe> Fujitsu, lol
[11:53] <thoreauputic> hpoc: enable the securit y repositories and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:53] <Fujitsu> Schneeschwarz, I doubt it...
[11:53] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[11:53] <utab> Wine help neede
[11:53] <Fujitsu> *Schalken.
[11:53] <Fujitsu> utab, what is the actual problem?
[11:53] <utab> my problem is that I have wine
[11:53] <hpoc> Fujitsu, yes. i have installed ubuntu 10min ago.. i want install the secury update but not with gnome cuz i have installed fluxbox
[11:53] <Fujitsu> hpoc, do as thoreauputic said.
[11:53] <Frogzoo> utab: what r u trying to run?
[11:53] <utab> but I have .wine dir under
[11:53] <ic56> kimbaroth: am I correct about your forgetting sudo or should I be looking for another source for the problem?
[11:54] <utab> for instance calc.exe
[11:54] <Fujitsu> !enter
[11:54] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:54] <kimbaroth> ic56: yup, sorry =P
[11:54] <Frogzoo> utab: just 'wine calc.exe' should work
[11:54] <thoreauputic> hpoc: you will need to check that security repos are neabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <hpoc> thoreauputic, in sources.list?
[11:54] <hpoc> ok
[11:54] <Fujitsu> utab, it's hard to read what you're saying, if you perforate it with `enter'
[11:54] <hpoc> thx
[11:54] <hpoc> i will try it
[11:54] <hpoc> *want
[11:54] <ic56> kimbaroth: here's that line again: in /etc/fstab, copy an existing line and modify the copy to contain this: /dev/sda1  /local/windows1 ntfs ro,uid=<your username> 0 2
[11:54] <thoreauputic> hpoc: then do updte and upgrade as i said earlier
[11:55] <utab>  Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[11:55] <utab> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[11:55] <utab> wine: cannot open (null)
[11:55] <thoreauputic> *update
[11:55] <kimbaroth> ic56: Yeah, I saved the file succesfully =)
[11:55] <utab> this is the message with calc.exe
[11:55] <Fujitsu> utab, please run wineprefixcreate
[11:55] <ic56> kimbaroth: excellent. Now, do this: sudo mount /local/windows1 .  Tell me what happens.
[11:55] <utab> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/utab/.wine/dosdevices/c:/My Documents': No such file or directory
[11:55] <Boglizk> How do i create a launcher to Eggdrop?
[11:56] <utab> what is  wineprefixcreate
[11:56] <Fujitsu> Boglizk, on the panel/desktop?
[11:56] <Fujitsu> utab, it creates the directory structure Wine needs to operate.
[11:56] <kimbaroth> ic56: nothing happened, in /local/windows1 appeared an "x" graphic above the folder icon
[11:56] <utab> I see
[11:56] <Boglizk> Fujitsu, i tried, the console loads up and i see text, then it closes down and the bot doesn't join.
[11:56] <Fujitsu> Boglizk, can you run it in a terminal properly?
[11:56] <Boglizk> Yes
[11:56] <mtholdenss> hey how do i uninstall xgl and compiz i dont think itll work and i want to get rid of it
[11:57] <kimbaroth> ic56: and when I try to acces it, it says that I dont have permission >_<
[11:57] <Fujitsu> Yes, hmm...
[11:57] <Fujitsu> ic56, what filesystem is it?
[11:57] <ic56> kimbaroth: by "nothing happened", presumably you mean that the command finished and you got a new command line prompt.  That means there were no errors.  In the unix world, silence is golden.
[11:57] <kimbaroth> ic56: ohhhhhhh I c =D
[11:57] <kimbaroth> ic56: Then we are fine^^
[11:58] <utab> Fujitsu
[11:58] <ic56> kimbaroth: now do this: mount |grep sda1 and tell me the line that gets output.
[11:58] <utab> what next
[11:58] <ic56> Fujitsu: it's NTFS
[11:58] <mtholdenss> u can write to a ntfs
[11:58] <mtholdenss> u cant*
[11:58] <utab> wiki did not help me I tried that before
[11:58] <Fujitsu> ic56, are you using umask=022?>
[11:59] <zachhale-pc> anyone here familiar with multi-boot envorinment?
[11:59] <zcat[1] > technically you can, it's just likely to cause a lot of damage ;)
[11:59] <Fujitsu> zachhale-pc, dual-booting with Windows?
[11:59] <kimbaroth> ic56: /dev/sda1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sda1 type ntfs (rw)
[11:59] <kimbaroth> /dev/sda1 on /local/windows1 type ntfs (ro,uid=1000)
[11:59] <Boglizk> Multi sounds like more than just 2 OS
[11:59] <mtholdenss> how do i uninstall?
[11:59] <utab> help
[11:59] <zachhale-pc> tri-boot ubuntu/osx/windows on a macbook
[11:59] <Fujitsu> utab, did you run wineprefixcreate?
[11:59] <zcat[1] > what's the state of captive under ubuntu at the moment?
[11:59] <utab> yes fujitsi
[11:59] <ic56> Fujitsu: I didn't bother with a umask, since we'll never write that filesystem.  Though perhaps I should have in anticipation of a future release when NTFS writting will work.
[12:00] <Fujitsu> ic56, you need it or you can't read it either.
[12:00] <utab> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/utab/.wine/dosdevices/c:/My Documents': No such file or directory
[12:00] <thoreauputic> zcat[1] : last I heard it didn't work on Ubuntu
[12:00] <thoreauputic> !captive
[12:00] <ubotu> from memory, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[12:00] <utab> Fujitsu I pasted
[12:00] <utab> that
[12:00] <zcat[1] > yeah, same here. anyone working on it?
[12:00] <utab> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/utab/.wine/dosdevices/c:/My Documents': No such file or directory
[12:00] <sugoruyo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15068
[12:00] <ic56> kimbaroth: Fujitsu advises we modify the 4th column (options) to read like so:  ro,uid=kimbaroth,umask=022
[12:01] <Fujitsu> utab, that's a strange error.
[12:01] <Fujitsu> Brb.
[12:01] <sugoruyo> there's some output
[12:01] <kimbaroth> ic56: ok, hold on =)
[12:01] <alth> Anyone know how I can change how many lines my mouse scrolls at a time?
[12:01] <zcat[1] > utab: sounds like you might want to nuke .wine and start again.. it might have been created by root the first time or something silly that means you can't add to it ??
[12:01] <utab> I have installed wine by the usual apt-get
[12:01] <Oswyn> is the installation from the server disc the same as the live cd installation?
[12:01] <ic56> kimbaroth: modify /etc/fstab again, then issue: sudo umount /local/windows1 ; sudo mount /local/windows1
[12:01] <richard> hello
[12:01] <thoreauputic> Oswyn: no
[12:01] <utab> so what to do
[12:02] <ic56> kimbaroth (unmount and re-mount to cause the new option to take effect)
[12:02] <utab> uninstall that
[12:02] <richard> I want to get my bluetooth usb dingle working - what do i need?
[12:02] <thoreauputic> Oswyn: it is text only and bare bones+ server specific packages
[12:02] <utab> and try again
[12:02] <utab> or
[12:02] <ic56> kimbaroth: when done, try the mount |grep sda1 again and tell me what you see.
[12:02] <Oswyn> thoreauputic: ok, thanks
[12:02] <BillGatess> hello
[12:02] <Boglizk> Aw.. is it still not possible to update to Dapper with Update Manager? :/
[12:02] <makelele> how do i get ctrl-alt-f1 to f6 working -anyone please ?
[12:02] <utab> under .wine directory
[12:03] <richard> um
[12:03] <richard> I just updated to dapper with update manager
[12:03] <kimbaroth> ic56: /dev/sda1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sda1 type ntfs (rw)
[12:03] <kimbaroth> /dev/sda1 on /local/windows1 type ntfs (ro,uid=1000,umask=022)
[12:03] <thoreauputic> always wanted to do that ...
[12:03] <zcat[1] > utab: rename .wine to .wine-doesntwork and try running the script again perhaps?
[12:03] <utab> I have dosdevices  drive_c  system.reg  userdef.reg  user.reg
[12:03] <zachhale-pc> okay, so i'm setting up a 3rd OS install on a tri-boot on my macbook, i need help understanding a few lines of a guide:
[12:03] <zachhale-pc> #  From here, you need to bootstrap your favorite Linux distro. Depending on the variant, this may also require you to compile your own kernel.
[12:03] <zachhale-pc> # The easiest way to compile your own kernel is to download a vanilla linux kernel and use the kernel config file from mactel-linux.com BUT NOT THE KERNEL PATCH. The kernel patch is necessary only for elilo whereas we will be using lilo.
[12:03] <zachhale-pc> any help dissecting what that meansn for me?
[12:03] <ic56> kimbaroth: ok, earlier you said you couldn't read a file after we mounted.  Which file did you mean?
[12:03] <snadge> is it possible to install ati version 8.20.8 in dapper? (previous version that works properly with tv out)
[12:03] <utab> which script
[12:03] <patbam> i believe i'm suffering from this bug, despite several claims in the thread that it's been resolved in dapper -- any suggestions on what i should do next? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/28443
[12:03] <bigfoot1> is there a way to see where www.somewebsite.com 's servers are located in the world?
[12:03] <MadMerC> howdy pardners
[12:04] <zcat[1] > the one mentioned before...
[12:04] <utab> ??
[12:04] <kimbaroth> ic56: The windows1 folder, I could't gain acces to it yet
[12:04] <zcat[1] > winemakedirs or whatever it was (funny, I just ran wine and I think it did all that for me the first time..)
[12:04] <d2812> bigfoot1: the showip plugin for firefox can tell you.
[12:04] <Schalken> why does glxgears run fine for 2 seconds then die?
[12:04] <ic56> kimbaroth: please define "gain access"
[12:04] <KenSentMe> Has anyone here installed wpa security for their wireless connection?
[12:04] <hpoc> its this normal, when i install fluxbox an type. xinit /usr/bin/fluxbox and login. an then port 6000 is open? (sorry for my bad english)
[12:04] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: host somewebsite.com will usually give you some clues
[12:04] <sugoruyo> so anyone have any ideas?
[12:05] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic: thanks
[12:05] <zcat[1] > err wineprefixcreate :)
[12:05] <KenSentMe> I've read the wiki, but the network-manager-gnome doesn't work as described there
[12:05] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic: ok. it gave me an ip address
[12:05] <utab> still did not get it
[12:05] <bigfoot1> now is there a way i can get more info about this ip address, such as geographical location?
[12:05] <donfilipo> is there any expert in graphics specialy ATI ..i have troubles with radeon 9000 pro...it freezes on 3d OpenGL applications..and i have tried a lot
[12:06] <samu2> Is it possible to make the tab-behaviour work like it does in XP's dos prompt?
[12:06] <kimbaroth> ic56: errrr, that I cant enter to /local/windows1 yet, maybe im anticipating,
[12:06] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: sorry I should have said " whois "
[12:06] <Flannel> samu2: how's that?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: ir whois IP address
[12:06] <ic56> kimbaroth: by "enter", do you mean issuing "cd /local/windows1" on the command line?
[12:06] <samu2> So that if you press it with an ambiguous name it will start cycling through the available options
[12:06] <kimbaroth> ic56: Aha
[12:07] <utab> I think Wine does not automatically detect my drives
[12:07] <kimbaroth> ic56: "Permission Denied"
[12:07] <bigfoot1> thoreauputic: what is "ir"?
[12:07] <ic56> kimbaroth: understood.  Are you able to issue "cd /local/windows1" now?
[12:07] <utab> it has to??
[12:07] <KenSentMe> sugoruyo, it might be a good idea that if seveas asks you to paste something on the pastebin, to notify seveas about it.
[12:07] <utab> or
[12:07] <ic56> kimbaroth: oh.
[12:07] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: heh - no   whois <IP adress>
[12:07] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:07] <kimbaroth> ic56: bash: cd: /local/windows1: Permission denied
[12:07] <sugoruyo> right
[12:07] <thoreauputic> bigfoot1: cold hands :)
[12:08] <sugoruyo> Seveas: i pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15068
[12:08] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul :)
[12:08] <zcat[1] > utab: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main  is what i used; add that to your sources.list and reinstall wine from there. It worked for me. (this may be bad advice, so wait and see if anyone else has better ideas before you try this :)
[12:08] <Flannel> samu2: I'm sure it is.  I just don't know how at the moment.
[12:08] <thoreauputic> ompaul: how goes the skype today ?
[12:08] <samu2> Flannel, where would I find out how?
[12:08] <BillGatess> There is no uber elite OS out there. Windows is flawed. Linux is flawed.
[12:08] <Moodles> I need to install these old nvidia drivers, but apparently I need to edit /etc/inittab to stop the X server from loading so I can install the drivers... what do I need to edit in the 'inittab'
[12:09] <ic56> kimbaroth: I don't have any NTFS partitions so I'm inexperienced with this.  I must have missed some option.  Let's investigate a bit.  tell me the output of: "ls -ld /local/windows1"
[12:09] <ompaul> BillGatess, and that is offtopic
[12:09] <utab> are other ideas to add to zcat[1]
[12:09] <Fujitsu> ic56, you need umask=0222!
[12:09] <hpoc> its this normal, when i install fluxbox an type. xinit /usr/bin/fluxbox and login. an then port 6000 is open? (sorry for my bad english)
[12:09] <Flannel> samu2: Well, google might be of some help, some others here might know, but it won't be ubuntu specific specicially, so any linux related place of discussion (like #linux) might be of assistance.
[12:09] <kimbaroth> ic56: dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2006-06-03 20:44 /local/windows1
[12:09] <samu2> Another thing, how do I know which shell is running in these konsole and so on?
[12:09] <zcat[1] > also google winetools and install that, it does a great jobb of setting up wine  'better' than the default settings.
[12:09] <Flannel> samu2: just ask for tab completion to cycle through the options, don't mention windows XP ;)
[12:09] <ompaul> BillGatess, the best one can get is what works for one, and for the past 11 years I have been online and enjoying myself, without the help of windows
[12:10] <ic56> Fujitsu: thank you for your earlier umask advice.  We did add "umask=022"  I note now you're adding an extra "2".  Surely that's a typo?
[12:10] <sugoruyo> the networking program aside
[12:10] <ompaul> BillGatess, make that 11 and a half
[12:10] <Fujitsu> ic56, either, I believe.
[12:10] <samu2> Flannel, wouldnt that get me an answer immediately? "Hey why is the linux "dos prompt" so crap? Can't even do this..."
[12:10] <sugoruyo> what do i need to do to get an IDE for C/C++ under gnome working?
[12:10] <Fujitsu> ic56, maybe change the permissions on the mountpoint itself?
[12:10] <Fujitsu> sugoruyo, try anjuta
[12:10] <sugoruyo> i tried anjuta and it complains about me not having glib
[12:10] <sugoruyo> and i couldn't find it synaptic
[12:10] <orbin> sugoruyo: install build-essential
[12:10] <Fujitsu> sugoruyo, it's there.
[12:11] <sugoruyo> but that was with flight-7
[12:11] <sugoruyo> ok
[12:11] <sugoruyo> i'll try
[12:11] <Fujitsu> sugoruyo, you need to enable the universe repository.
[12:11] <Flannel> samu2: heh.  it might infuse them with vigor to prove you wrong, or it might blow up in your face.  walking a fine line, depends on time of day, methinks.
[12:11] <zachhale-pc> anyone know how to bootstrap ubuntu-dapper onto a partition?
[12:11] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell sugoruyo about repos
[12:11] <mtholdenss> how do i uninstall?
[12:11] <sugoruyo> i hope someone can help with the network
[12:11] <Sjoerd-> hello
[12:11] <Fujitsu> Hi, Sjoerd-.
[12:11] <stevekl> mtholdenss: uninstall ubuntu?
[12:11] <MadMerC> ummm how do i stop ping from pinging ???
[12:11] <mtholdenss> uninstall apps
[12:11] <sugoruyo> i'm guessing there's something wrong with my irqs or something
[12:11] <Fujitsu> MadMerC, Ctrl+C
[12:12] <stevekl> mtholdenss: oh, "apt-get remove blah"
[12:12] <MadMerC> Fujitsu thanx :D
[12:12] <Fujitsu> MadMerC, no problem.
[12:12] <ic56> kimbaroth: hmm. the permissions on /local/windows1 are clearly the source of the problem.  But I thought our "uid=" option would have addressed this issue.  Let me test something on my system.
[12:12] <ss> hey can anyone help me with installing ubuntu> at the moment i'm at the prepare mount points step and i don't exactly know what mount points are
[12:12] <stevekl> apt-get remove --purge if you're anal like me
[12:12] <Sjoerd-> What do I do when Ubuntu does install my onboard network interface by default and there is no driver?
[12:12] <kimbaroth> ic56: oooook, Thanks^^, take your time =D
[12:12] <stevekl> I like to keep a clean /etc!
[12:12] <Sjoerd-> +not
[12:13] <ss> i've installed 5.01 before, and i think its on hda3.. and i'm pretty sure the swap is hda7 and i think i had some free space with hda6 but i don't know what mount point its meant to be
[12:13] <Fujitsu> ss, what is it asking at the moment?
[12:13] <daniel_bergamini> Fujitsu, Frogzoo adding ACPI=force to the end of my kernel line in menu.lst fixed the poweroff issue and I have the /proc/acpi folder and everything still appears to be working.
[12:13] <Flannel> samu2: apparently zsh has that type of tab completion.  I'm sure someone's enabled bash to do the same.  just a matter of finding the config/whatever.
[12:13] <utab> Is there someone had problems configuring wine
[12:13] <ss> "Prepare mount points" - i basically have to choose a mount point for a certain partition
[12:13] <MadMerC> does anyone use gopets here ????
[12:13] <ss> step 5 of 6
[12:13] <Fujitsu> Great, daniel_bergamini.
[12:13] <samu2> Flannel, so how do I know which shell is running in my konsole?
[12:13] <utab> example
[12:13] <MadMerC> hi DarkMageZ :D
[12:13] <daniel_bergamini> Fujitsu indeed
[12:13] <utab> wine calc.exe
[12:14] <Fujitsu> ss, hda3 wants to be `/'.
[12:14] <BillGatess> what is special about ubuntu, it's not hype cuz it's been a two year frenzy...isnt it just debian?
[12:14] <utab> results in Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[12:14] <utab> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[12:14] <utab> wine: cannot open (null)
[12:14] <Fujitsu> BillGatess, it's Debian with more frequent releases, and other goodies.
[12:14] <Fujitsu> utab, please don't paste.
[12:14] <ss> Fujitsu: i'm guess hda7 is still swap? I don't know what i'm meant to put in for hda6 though (the spare space)
[12:14] <utab> so what
[12:14] <utab> then
[12:14] <Fujitsu> ss, yep.
[12:14] <Flannel> samu2: you can choose your shell in user config stuffs.  or, at least, on ubuntu, as for where you change it in kubuntu... I haven't the foggiest.
[12:14] <ss> uhm what mount point that is
[12:14] <daniel_bergamini> dapper runs pretty slick on this old Stylistic 3400 tablet, considering it's a P3 -400mhz 192mb ram
[12:15] <Fujitsu> ss, how big are hda3 and hda6?
[12:15] <ss> 7gb each
[12:15] <Fujitsu> daniel_bergamini, Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[12:15] <samu2> Flannel, ok thanks.
[12:15] <Fujitsu> ss, hmm.
[12:15] <ic56> kimbaroth: bummer, these options aren't implemented for regular Linux filesystems so I can't test them.  Let's ask teh channel.
[12:15] <Fujitsu> ss, you couldn't repartition them into one, could you?
[12:15] <bolsh> Hi
[12:15] <kimbaroth> ic56: >_<
[12:15] <utab> i have to use wine but users are not that helpful
[12:15] <bolsh> Just upgraded from Breezy to Dapper final
[12:15] <utab> :-((
[12:15] <ic56> Anybody have an NTFS partition mounted?  Can you tell me the line from your /etc/fstab file please?
[12:16] <bolsh> and I have noticed a couple of issues
[12:16] <daniel_bergamini> Fujitsu Ubuntu, used the WindowsNetworkServer image process to PXE boot, since I couldn't get either a PCMCIA cdrom or USB cdrom to boot, even using the smartbootmanager floppy.
[12:16] <bolsh> On a PPC
[12:16] <Fujitsu> ic56, the only option needed is umask=0222.
[12:16] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell kimbaroth about windowsdrives
[12:16] <ss> Fujitsu: i guess i could but i have no idea how.. i'm pretty sure hda3 has breezy on it because its got like 2gb space used where has hda7 has 100mb used
[12:16] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[12:16] <bolsh> First, in rhyhtmbox, DnD to add albums to playlists doesn't work for some disks
[12:16] <makelele> what is the command being used to execute the ctrl-alt-f1 to ctrl-alt-f6 terminals ?
[12:16] <bolsh> Very odd
[12:16] <Fujitsu> ss, do you want to keep Breezy? Have you got any data on there that you need?
[12:16] <Fujitsu> makelele, they're not functioning?
[12:17] <utab> Is there someone who could give me ideas on my wine problem
[12:17] <bolsh> Second, I have a blue pixel on the screen that wasn't there before...
[12:17] <Fujitsu> makelele, can you check if the process `getty' is running?
[12:17] <orbin> anyone running fluxbox?
[12:17] <Fujitsu> utab, wait a while between asking, please.
[12:17] <ss> Fujitsu: nope don't want to keep breezy, want dapper now and don't any data that i want to keep
[12:17] <bolsh> Oh - and xchat-gnome got uninstalled
[12:17] <Fujitsu> bolsh, sounds like a dead pixel.
[12:17] <Fujitsu> OK, ss.
[12:17] <bolsh> But I got that back
[12:17] <utab> sorry I get it
[12:17] <bolsh> Fujitsu: Due to the upgrade?
[12:17] <Fujitsu> ss, delete hda3, hda6.
[12:17] <bolsh> Fujitsu: It was fine before, and is fine under OSX
[12:17] <Fujitsu> bolsh, due to a hardware failure.
[12:17] <daniel_bergamini> utab, is there a #wine channel?
[12:17] <Fujitsu> bolsh, oh.
[12:17] <Fujitsu> bolsh, only one pixel?
[12:17] <kimbaroth> ic56: I Think It Should Be ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[12:17] <utab> no idea
[12:17] <sugoruyo> so?
[12:18] <Needhelp> how to install xchat
[12:18] <Hawkins> I'm remapping keyboard hotkeys with keyTouch, what command I use to get logout screen visible ?
[12:18] <utab> think no
[12:18] <Fujitsu> Needhelp, sudo apt-get install xchat
[12:18] <kimbaroth> ic56: lemme try that one
[12:18] <ic56> kimbaroth: ok
[12:18] <utab> daniel_bergamini do u also have a wine problem
[12:18] <bolsh> Fujitsu: Yeah
[12:18] <Fujitsu> ss, then create one big partition, and make it /
[12:18] <OrTigaS> how to play streaming online video?
[12:18] <Fujitsu> bolsh, what video card?
[12:18] <Fujitsu> OrTigaS, what format is the video in?
[12:18] <makelele> fujitsu :yes quit a few - 6 to be exact
[12:18] <daniel_bergamini> utab nope, I run windows for windows and linux for linux
[12:19] <bolsh> Fujitsu: The one that comes with a mac mini :)
[12:19] <Fujitsu> makelele, hmm
[12:19] <utab> I want that also like that
[12:19] <daniel_bergamini> never the twain shall meet
[12:19] <Fujitsu> makelele, sounds like something is catching Ctrl+Alt+Fx
[12:19] <utab> but I have to use that
[12:19] <utab> UNFORTUNATELY
[12:19] <Sjoerd-> What do I do when Ubuntu does not install my onboard network interface by default and there is no driver?
[12:19] <Fujitsu> bolsh, that's not very helpful.
[12:19] <ss> Fujitsu: hda6? do you mean hda7?
[12:19] <Needhelp> ok
[12:19] <wahooo> makelele, check your xorg or xfree configs files, keyboard section
[12:19] <makelele> fujitsu: i looked in config editor and keyboard shortcuts but i see no mention of this
[12:19] <ss> hda6 is the swap file partition i think
[12:19] <Fujitsu> ss, the two partitions, the one with Breezy, and the one that's empty.
[12:20] <makelele> wahoo:what do i look for ?
[12:20] <OrTigaS> played by media player only i thing wmv
[12:20] <OrTigaS> think*
[12:20] <Fujitsu> Sjoerd-, what type of card is it?
[12:20] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- what kind of motherboard?
[12:20] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell OrTigaS about wmv
[12:20] <ss> Fujitsu: ok done
[12:20] <utab> I am planning to write a C++ class which will invoke wine and eventually a program that is only running on Windoes
[12:20] <Fujitsu> OrTigaS, see the link ubotu sent you.
[12:20] <Sjoerd-> Fujitsu: It's a SiS
[12:20] <Fujitsu> ss, then create a big one, set it as /
[12:20] <OrTigaS> okay
[12:20] <Fujitsu> ss, then continue :)
[12:20] <kimbaroth> ic56: nope, still wont works =/
[12:20] <Fujitsu> Sjoerd-, you're sure there's no driver?
[12:20] <Botty> ubutu, tell botty about wmv
[12:21] <OrTigaS> heheh iin there
[12:21] <wahooo> makelele, there is an old bug with gnome applets and the keyboard, but that is old maybe that is what you have, so you need to add.......
[12:21] <Botty> ubotu, tell botty about wmv
[12:21] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Botty about wmv
[12:21] <ic56> kimbaroth: hang on, investigating
[12:21] <kimbaroth> ic56: okey
[12:21] <ss> Fujitsu: uhm.... i don't know what they're called in the partition section... theres still hda3 and hda 6
[12:21] <utab> still no replies
[12:21] <utab> for me
[12:21] <Needhelp> where to download icq for ubuntu
[12:21] <wahooo> makelele,  Option Xklbdisable true
[12:21] <utab> I will try mailing lists and wait I guess :-(
[12:21] <Flannel> Needhelp: you can use gaim
[12:21] <Fujitsu> ss, delete all of the Ubuntu-related partitions.
[12:21] <UbuntuNewUser> Will my sony mp3/pen drive player work under ubuntu?
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> Fujitsu: It is onboard lan from a Asus Barebone T2-AE1, with SIS190/191, I have checked the SiS website but the download is down
[12:22] <wahooo> errrr XkbDisable
[12:22] <Fujitsu> ic56, you want:
[12:22] <Fujitsu> ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[12:22] <OrTigaS> anyone using dial-up in ubuntu?
[12:22] <Fujitsu> OrTigaS, what's the problem?
[12:22] <Needhelp> if i don't want use gaim
[12:22] <Needhelp> gaim has many problem
[12:22] <MadMerC> does anyone know how i can connect to a msn groups chatroom with ubuntu ????
[12:22] <Fujitsu> Needhelp, example?
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> Fujitsu: I have found some old driver for fedora core but I don't think that will be of any use, will it?
[12:22] <OrTigaS> Fujitsu,  i want it to automatically dial after reboot
[12:22] <Fujitsu> Sjoerd-, it may be.
[12:22] <Needhelp> it auto logout
[12:22] <Fujitsu> Sjoerd-, can I have a link?
[12:23] <Sjoerd-> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188060
[12:23] <ss> Fujitsu: ok its all good now, thanks.
[12:23] <Sjoerd-> I'm not even 100% sure if it is a SIS190/191 but some forum suggested it
[12:23] <bolsh> Fujitsu: Let me look in the device manager
[12:23] <Fujitsu> No problem, ssh.
[12:24] <UbuntuNewUser> Will my sony mp3/pen drive player work under ubuntu?
[12:24] <bolsh> RV280 (Radeon 9200)
[12:24] <utab> I am still wondering if there is someone who can help me
[12:24] <Fujitsu> Gar.
[12:24] <Fujitsu> UbuntuNewUser, most probably.
[12:24] <Sjoerd-> Ill send it ok Fujitsu?
[12:24] <Fujitsu> Sjoerd-, I've got it.
[12:24] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- what does lspci tell you about the nic?
[12:24] <zachhale-pc> anyone know how to bootstrap ubuntu from a livecd?
[12:25] <utab> ok again wine how to
[12:25] <utab> I read the wiki but no use
[12:25] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: lspci?
[12:25] <shrump_jimbo> have you tried synaptic utab
[12:25] <mp3guy> is there a program I can get to non destructively resize ext3 partitions?
[12:25] <Needhelp> hello,how to compound the downloaded file
[12:25] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- it sounds like you have a driver, I guess
[12:25] <Fujitsu> Sjoerd-, that's a nasty fix, but it'd probably work.
[12:25] <utab> I installed throug apt-get
[12:25] <Fujitsu> mp3guy, you cannot move the start, but you can move the end.
[12:26] <utab> it is on the system but there are problems with the config
[12:26] <ic56> kimbaroth: ok, you've changed teh options to the ones recommended in the document Fujitsu recommended.  And presumably you remembered to umount and re-mount.  To confirm the changes took effect, please tell me the output of "mount |grep windows1" again
[12:26] <Sjoerd-> Fujitsu: I have no idea where to start, nobody cares to reply on the forums :(
[12:26] <shrump_jimbo> might try from packages.ubuntu.com
[12:26] <mp3guy> Fujitsu, I need to resize my swap partition so I can hibernate, the swap is at the end of the drive, after the root partition, which is ext3
[12:26] <ic56> kimbaroth: then tell me the output of "ls -ld /local/windows1"
[12:26] <Fujitsu> mp3guy, OK.
[12:27] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- this help? http://kerneltrap.org/node/4838
[12:27] <Fujitsu> mp3guy, you'll need to boot into a Live CD, then shift the end of the ext3 partition.
[12:27] <kimbaroth> ic56: kimbaroth@Jenova64:~$ mount |grep windows1
[12:27] <kimbaroth> /dev/sda1 on /local/windows1 type ntfs (ro,kimbaroth,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[12:27] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: Thank you but I have read through all that already ..
[12:27] <Fujitsu> Then resize the swap partition to fill the empty space, mp3guy.
[12:27] <Hawkins> Which command I should bind to a certain key to make log off menu pop up ?
[12:27] <kimbaroth> ic56: dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2006-06-03 20:44 /local/windows1
[12:27] <mp3guy> Fujitsu, will gparted do this without erasing the ext3 root partition/
[12:27] <Fujitsu> mp3guy, it should.
[12:27] <utab> no one has answered so far to  my wine problem should not be that hard :)
[12:27] <mp3guy> ok, thanks
[12:27] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, can you please umount that partition, and ls -ld it again?
[12:28] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: lets See
[12:28] <Fujitsu> utab, if nobody's answering, it's probable nobody knows please wait 10 or 15 minutes and ask again.
[12:28] <utab> thanks
[12:28] <poje> utab: you could also check out the wine people's chan
[12:28] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-06-04 04:43 /local/windows1
[12:28] <ic56> kimbaroth: the output from mount doesn't look right.  It's missing the "uid=" before "kimbaroth"
[12:28] <poje> I think it's #winehq, forget which network though
[12:29] <zcat[1] > utab: did you try what I suggested?
[12:29] <neutrinomass> I tried installing kde with 'sudo apt-get install kde' , but knetwork fails: http://pastebin.com/757250
[12:29] <basvg> hi all, 's anyone know how I can tell firefox to always use 'gtklp' for printing, and to always use 'a4' as papersize?
[12:29] <utab> poje : I am new to irc
[12:29] <utab> how to go there
[12:29] <poje> utab: /join #winehq
[12:29] <kimbaroth> ic56: lemme do it again
[12:29] <poje> The wine people can help you there :)
[12:29] <ic56> kimbaroth: you know, Fujitsu implied a good point.  The mountpoint owner is wrong.
[12:29] <utab> zcat[1] : no I did not
[12:29] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, no it's not.
[12:29] <preglow> is there any way to uninstall openoffice without dragging ubuntu-desktop down the drain as well? doesn't sound like a very clever dependency
[12:29] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[12:29] <Fujitsu> ic56, not it's not.
[12:30] <utab> but u told that it might not be good
[12:30] <Fujitsu> preglow, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage. Nothing bad will happen if you get rid of it
[12:30] <zcat[1] > try it anyhow.. nobody has had any better ideas ;)
[12:30] <Fujitsu> ic56, just use ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000...
[12:30] <kimbaroth> ic56: I should put <ro,auto,kimbaroth,fmask=0111,dmask=0000> under options, rite?
[12:30] <Fujitsu> ic56, that's all that's necessary.
[12:30] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, <ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000>
[12:30] <Fujitsu> No kimbaroth.
[12:30] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: no?
[12:31] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, no.
[12:31] <sugoruyo> any news on that network stuff?
[12:31] <ic56> kimbaroth: my fault -- I should have realised things might interact that way.  Try this: sudo umount /local/windows1 ; sudo chown kimbaroth /local/windows1 ; sudo mount /local/windows1
[12:31] <sugoruyo> i think it's about the hardware
[12:31] <method|> anybody get a disk read error when trying to boot from the desktop cd?
[12:31] <spowers> is there any way to replicate windows' "offline files" feature in linux
[12:31] <spowers> ?
[12:31] <method|> it's happened on too straight discs
[12:31] <method|> two*
[12:31] <spowers> i'm specifically interested in using it on a laptop
[12:31] <Fujitsu> ic56, no root is the right owner!
[12:31] <k31th> anyone use ekiga here?
[12:32] <patbam> anyone know how i can determine the specific pixel size of my monitor? (i'm tryinhg ot use 915resolution to handle a wide laptop screen)
[12:32] <rixth> k31th, me, sometimes
[12:32] <Fujitsu> Hi, mdke.
[12:32] <spowers> when i'm plugged in, i want my homedir to run off nfs, but if I unplug, i want to keep a synced copy
[12:32] <zcat[1] > spowers: something like ifolders?
[12:32] <spowers> and then re-sync when i plug back in
[12:32] <Fujitsu> patbam, in Ubuntu 6.06?
[12:32] <spowers> does ifolders do that?
[12:32] <shrump_jimbo> sugoruyo what does your /etc/network/interfaces sat
[12:32] <patbam> Fujitsu: yeah (that's dapper, right? i just installed it.)
[12:32] <mdke> does anyone know if there is a maximum number of accounts you can have in Thunderbird? I try to add a new one but nothing happens (hi Fujitsu)
[12:32] <zcat[1] > apparently.
[12:32] <ben_underscore> spowers, you could use rsync to keep your sever and client directories in sync
[12:32] <sugoruyo> shrump_jimbo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15068
[12:32] <sugoruyo> it's all there
[12:32] <kimbaroth> same
[12:32] <zcat[1] > not sure if it's in a package, it's a novell thing.
[12:32] <spowers> yes, rsync would be where the rubber hits the road
[12:33] <Fujitsu> patbam, you should just be able to install 915resolution in Synaptic, then reboot.
[12:33] <sugoruyo> along with output from dmesg, lspci, ifconfig, mii-tool
[12:33] <sugoruyo> and /etc/init.d/network interfaces
[12:33] <kimbaroth> ic56: kimbaroth@Jenova64:~$ ls -ld /local/windows1
[12:33] <kimbaroth> dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2006-06-03 20:44 /local/windows1
[12:33] <ic56> kimbaroth: can we confirm that /etc/fstab isn't missing the "uid=" string?
[12:33] <patbam> Fujitsu: ah ok, great, i'll give it a try. then i can tackle the lack of sound :)
[12:33] <patbam> thanks
[12:33] <Fujitsu> ic56, it doesn't need a uid= string!
[12:33] <spowers> but there would need to be some sort of state management component that would be able to tell rsync when to do its thing, and then the other thing is, if i'm running my homedir off of NFS while connected, there would need to be some sort of bind mount to allow the switch
[12:33] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- http://driver2.sis.com/linux/lan/sis190191_linux.tar.gz
[12:34] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- does that link work for you?
[12:34] <k31th> rixth: who do you call with it?
[12:34] <ben_underscore> has anyone had the dapper upgrade bork half way though?
[12:34] <spowers> because moving a symlink won't cut it, even if the files are in sync, because processes open by inode and not by path -- anything left open would deadlock
[12:34] <rixth> k31th, my friends
[12:34] <spowers> i'll check out ifolder, thanks
[12:34] <k31th> as in land line? or wat other software?
[12:34] <Fujitsu> This line works /fine/ for me:
[12:34] <Fujitsu> /dev/sda2       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000      0       0
[12:34] <k31th> rixth: :D ever used the video confrence thing ?
[12:34] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: yes thank you
[12:35] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- good luck!
[12:35] <ben_underscore> \me supposes every geek and their dog is asking a post-release question
[12:35] <rixth> k31th, don't have a webcam
[12:35] <kimbaroth> ic56: ok, wait a sec, i got some mess here, lemme start again from scratch, sec pls =)
[12:35] <ben_underscore> ha ha
[12:35] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: I already had it...
[12:35] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: It's for fedora core
[12:35] <ic56> Fujitsu: can you explain why it is unnecessary to override the NTFS ownerships with Ubuntu's?  I don't see how NTFS files that are privately owned would be accessible from Ubuntu by kimbaroth without a uid= option.
[12:35] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- oh, is it not compiling for you? I thought you were having trouble downloading
[12:35] <daniel_bergamini> oh
[12:35] <zcat[1] > ben_underscore: i asked all my post-release questions pre-release to beat the rush!!
[12:36] <Fujitsu> ic56, there are no NTFS ownerships carried!
[12:36] <Fujitsu> ic56, NTFS permissions are ignored.
[12:36] <ben_underscore> zcat[1] , good idea
[12:36] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: Maybe there is some way to get it working under Ubuntu but I have no idea where to start, Do you?
[12:36] <DarkRavenMixage> i got a problem... i installed cups from the website and i compiled it (to solve a bug with sharings between ubuntu and windows printers) now when i try to start the service it returns this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 1!
[12:36] <DarkRavenMixage> cups: unable to start scheduler.
[12:36] <Madpilot> ben_underscore, my dist-upgrade ate my net connection, sound, and a bunch of other things that had been working... :|
[12:36] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- it's name suggests it's good for "linux", that's silly
[12:36] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, use the line I posted a while back, it works fine.
[12:36] <Fujitsu> daniel_bergamini, why's it silly?
[12:37] <Sjoerd-> because everyone seems to have trouble with it
[12:37] <ic56> Fujitsu: ok, if NTFS permissions are ignored, what permissions are used?  And BTW, kimbaroth *did* try the line you posted -- it didn't work.
[12:37] <ben_underscore> Madpilot, my dist-upgrade borked because samba wouldn't install, and it didn't clean up. do you know how i could do that?
[12:37] <Fujitsu> ic56, I believe he had a `kimbaroth' in there somewhere.
[12:37] <Fujitsu> ic56, the permissions you specify in the mount line! Hence the need for fmask/umask/dmask
[12:37] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: Im Doing It =)
[12:37] <PapaB> hai
[12:37] <daniel_bergamini> Fujitsu they should have named the file sis190191_fedoracore.tar.gz
[12:37] <Fujitsu> I hope it works, kimbaroth.
[12:38] <Madpilot> ben_underscore, not really. I wound up just doing a re-install from scratch, which was a nuisance...
[12:38] <Fujitsu> daniel_bergamini, why!? It's a kernel patch!
[12:38] <PapaB> does the server version not install gnome by default?
[12:38] <Fujitsu> PapaB, that's right.
[12:38] <ben_underscore> Madpilot, oh lovely
[12:38] <Madpilot> ben_underscore, yeah. Thankfully my /home is a seperate partition, so I lost no data...
[12:38] <zcat[1] > Madpilot: I did the same on the family machine. But it was pretty messy and due for a clean install anyhow :)
[12:38] <DarkRavenMixage> i got a problem... i installed cups from the website and i compiled it (to solve a bug with sharings between ubuntu and windows printers) now when i try to start the service it returns this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 1! cups: unable to start schedule. (i installed from subversion like the fix of my problem said.) i can't print anymore
[12:38] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- if that is a kernel patch as Fujitsu suggests it should work with any linux distro
[12:38] <PapaB> fujitsu: the description on the download page is misleading...it makes it seem as though the 'desktop' version is more of a 'live cd' rather than a full install
[12:38] <Fujitsu> daniel_bergamini, it's only got /instructions/ for Fedora Core 3, but it'll work on anything based on 2.6.9+
[12:38] <ic56> Fujitsu: the masks don't specify ownerships.  What *owner* is used if the NTFS ones are ignored?  Or do you mean to say that the mode is ignored but teh ownerships aren't?
[12:39] <Fujitsu> PapaB, it is both...
[12:39] <Fujitsu> PapaB, the Alternate CD is the text-based installer.
[12:39] <shrump_jimbo> sugoruyo: have you tried dhcp with eth0?
[12:39] <lee_> Hi anyone in here?
[12:39] <lee_> Ok
[12:39] <Boglizk> What kind of theme am i suppose to Install? Theres plenty of "Themes" on Gnome-look :S
[12:39] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: So I should just follow the instructions in readme and then it should work?
[12:39] <Fujitsu> ic56, there are no NTFS ownerships carried. How would it convert the UIDs!?
[12:39] <sugoruyo> that would require setting up the whole network
[12:39] <zcat[1] > ic56: I think the whole thing gets owned by root and then you give permission to read using the mask..
[12:39] <sugoruyo> with dhcp wouldn't it?
[12:39] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: grrrrrr, I got mount |grep sda1
[12:39] <kimbaroth> /dev/sda1 on /tmp/disks-conf-sda1 type ntfs (rw)
[12:39] <kimbaroth> /dev/sda1 on /local/windows1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[12:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Boglizk about themes
[12:39] <Fujitsu> The owner ir tooy, anyway.
[12:39] <rixth> Funny, the spell checker included with Ubuntu doesn't know the word Ubuntu =P
[12:39] <ic56> Fujitsu: my understanding is that that's what the uid= option is for.
[12:39] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- not having read the instructions I can't be sure of anything. lemme double check
[12:40] <Boglizk> Everybody does that, and it doesn't really answer my question
[12:40] <DarkRavenMixage> ubotu, tell DarkRavenMixage about cups
[12:40] <Fujitsu> ic56, but we don't want to dictate the owner.
[12:40] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: I have no idea how to install a driver under linux
[12:40] <finalbeta_> I just installed VMWare tools on the new Dapper.  Everything went fine. I see a VMware process. But none of the functions are working. How should I proceed?
[12:40] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, I don't think that's the fstab line I showed you...
[12:40] <Fujitsu> /dev/sda2       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000      0       0
[12:40] <Madpilot> Boglizk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy should answer your question
[12:40] <PapaB> fujitsu: whats the difference in functionality between server and desktop
[12:40] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: I am using dapper 64 bit server
[12:40] <Boglizk> Madpilot, Okay, thanks
[12:40] <Fujitsu> PapaB, desktop has a GUI, server doesn't.
[12:40] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: /dev/sda1       /local/windows1    ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000      0       0
[12:40] <Fujitsu> The server CD also includes some extra server applications.
[12:40] <zcat[1] > PapaB: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[12:40] <lee_> I did someting stupid on ubuntu, I added an invalid repository. Since that happened I cannot use apt-get nor download things off of synaptics. I cannot find it on the repositories list so I can't delete it
[12:40] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, that looks right...
[12:41] <zcat[1] > .. that'll turn your server install into a desktop install
[12:41] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: And Stil Wont Works.....
[12:41] <Fujitsu> lee_, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:41] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, what command are you using to mount it?
[12:41] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- are you certain it's not actually included in the newer kernels?
[12:41] <zcat[1] > Fujitsu: probably. but nothing you couldn't apt-get :)
[12:41] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: sudo mount /local/windows1
[12:41] <PapaB> zcat: would that be a full install or an alteration of server version
[12:41] <lee_> I've been there- I found the two reps. on there however it was read only so I could not delete them
[12:42] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, can you unmount, and then ls -ld /local/windows1?
[12:42] <Fujitsu> lee_, you need to have sudo in front of the command.
[12:42] <ss> hey, i've just installed dapper, and i can't access my windows driver (ntfs) because it says i don't have enough permission.. ?
[12:42] <lee_> Ok
[12:42] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell ss about windowsdrives
[12:42] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: The forum link says it has been removed. If it would be in the kernel, how do I find out?
[12:42] <zcat[1] > PapaB: actually I'm not sure. the server install might include more 'server stuff' like apache and mysql by default..
[12:42] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: drwxr-xr-x 2 kimbaroth root 4096 2006-06-04 04:43 /local/windows1
[12:42] <Fujitsu> ss, see the link ubotu sent you.
[12:42] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, aha.
[12:42] <ss> thanks
[12:42] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, sudo chown root:root /local/windows1
[12:43] <ss> Fujitsu: lol i can't get the script
[12:43] <zcat[1] > PapaB: the breezy server install was identical but just left off the GUI.
[12:43] <Fujitsu> ss, why not?
[12:43] <ss> Fujitsu: i don't have internet access on the computer with ubuntu
[12:43] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: and then?? =)
[12:43] <ss> for the moment anyway
[12:43] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: remount the image?
[12:43] <Kwong> wat's the default kernel of Dapper?
[12:43] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- I think you'd have to download the kernel sources and look for the .c file
[12:43] <lee_> Fujitsu, that worked, thanks man
[12:43] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, remount, please.
[12:43] <ss> Fujitsu: i need access to the windows hdd so i can get ndiswrapper off it to install my wireless lan card
[12:43] <daniel_bergamini> have you tried modprobe sis190?
[12:44] <Fujitsu> lee_, no problem.
[12:44] <Fujitsu> ss, OK.
[12:44] <Fujitsu> ss, don't use the script then, scroll down further.
[12:44] <ss> oh
[12:44] <wahooo> Fujitsu, is one of a hell, fast, accurate, knows-all, supporter :D and mutltitasking weeee
[12:44] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: Same Problem =/  ls -ld /local/windows1
[12:44] <kimbaroth> dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2006-06-03 20:44 /local/windows1
[12:44] <OwlNoob> hi all
[12:44] <ic56> kimbaroth: you have /dev/sda1 mounted twice it seems.  That's probably not the problem, but it's confusing so do this to clean that up: sudo umount /tmp/disks-conf-sda1
[12:44] <Fujitsu> Hi, OwlNoob.
[12:44] <Fujitsu> ic56, that might be the problem.
[12:44] <Sjoerd-> daniel_bergamini: Should I type that in command line?
[12:45] <kimbaroth> ic56: lets see
[12:45] <Kwong> Fujitsu, what's the default kernel in dapper?
[12:45] <Fujitsu> ic56, it would have been automagically mounted, but incorrectly.
[12:45] <Fujitsu> wahooo, thanks.
[12:45] <Fujitsu> Kwong, 2.6.15.
[12:45] <Fujitsu> Ubuntu version 2.6.15-23-386
[12:45] <daniel_bergamini> Sjoerd- "modprobe sis190"
[12:45] <nox-Hand> Hey
[12:45] <lee_> I've got one more question. Yesterday I installed the 3d acceleration thing from ATI. So that I could enable 3d acceleration.. :P however I must of configured it wrong because everything looks slightly stretched. All fonts also look a little bit fuzzy
[12:46] <kimbaroth> ic56: same thing
[12:46] <OwlNoob> I ve got a problem with my udev rules for linking an iPod n /dev/ipod... I have created a file 20-ipod.rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/ and set the following rule
[12:46] <Kwong> Fujitsu, does it support smp?
[12:46] <nox-Hand> I am having some $PATH trouble. Some places are not in path. Like /usr/games, so a load of stuff installed from Synaptic is not there. How will I update $PATH,or restore it to what it should be?
[12:46] <Frogzoo> lee_: if you're on an lcd, you're running at the wrong res
[12:46] <Fujitsu> Kwong, I believe so.
[12:46] <OwlNoob> BUS=="scsi", SYSFS{vendor}=="Apple*", SYSFS{model}=="iPod*", KERNEL=="sd??", SYMLINK+="ipod"
[12:46] <Fujitsu> Kwong, if not, install linux-686.
[12:46] <Frogzoo> !tell lee_ about fixres
[12:46] <ss> Fujitsu: is there an easier way then that? lol
[12:46] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: what are you trying to do? mount an ntfs partition read only for all users?
[12:46] <Fujitsu> ss, that script :P
[12:46] <Kwong> Fujitsu, thanx
[12:46] <ss> Fujitsu: because i know on breezy, i didn't have to go through that stage :|
[12:46] <Snellgrove> quick question...   say I have Azureus open on a workspace. when i switch to another workspace, it vanishes back to the notification area  -any quick fix for this?
[12:46] <kimbaroth> Terminus: Yup
[12:46] <OwlNoob> but when restarting the udev deamon doesn't make the deice appear under ipod...
[12:46] <Fujitsu> Terminus-, yes, but the proper method isn't working.
[12:46] <lee_> okay thanks.
[12:46] <Frogzoo> nox-Hand: set PATH in ~/.gnomerc which you'll need to create
[12:46] <Ramunas> i have a home-made IR receiver on my pc, how do i make it to listen to remote control`s commands?
[12:46] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: i just use these for my ntfs drives --> defaults,umask=0222
[12:46] <Fujitsu> Brb.
[12:47] <Fujitsu> Terminus-, but that's not working.
[12:47] <Ramunas> for e.x adjust volume
[12:47] <kimbaroth> Terminus: lemme try those
[12:47] <Terminus-> Fujitsu: really? weird...
[12:47] <sugoruyo> anyone have any ideas on that network issue?
[12:47] <sentinel> hi
[12:47] <WINBALL> Hello
[12:47] <Snellgrove> Lo :)
[12:47] <MadMerC> does anyone know of any irc connection scripts to join msn groups chatrooms ???
[12:48] <nox-Hand> Frogzoo, Erm, Okay.
[12:48] <sentinel> my first try to get help on an irc channel
[12:48] <sentinel> :-)
[12:48] <nox-Hand> How?
[12:48] <kimbaroth> Terminus: /dev/sda1       /local/windows1    ntfs    defaults,umask=0222      0       0       aite??
[12:48] <sentinel> any volunteers ? :-)
[12:48] <ic56> Terminus-: "defaults" maps to "rw" according to the manpage.  Is the behaviour different specifically for NTFS?
[12:48] <Snellgrove> Whats the problem, sentinel
[12:48] <Snellgrove> I'm sure someone will be able to help you :)
[12:49] <MadMerC> sentinel this is a very handy channel i've only been using ubuntu for a short amount of time so i need to make at least 1 visit a day in here lol
[12:49] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: yep. you can remove the defaults if you want...
[12:49] <Frogzoo> sentinel: just state your problem, saves on space...
[12:49] <ic56> kimbaroth: /etc/fstab looks good according to Terminus.  Now umount and mount like before.
[12:49] <Terminus-> ic56: hmmm... the masks handle it for me anyway so my perms look like r-xr-xr-x.
[12:49] <kimbaroth> ic56: OMW
[12:49] <ucordes> Why do they say windows partitions are supported out of the box in dapper? I think this is false!
[12:49] <sentinel> ok, i have an amd64 and i downloaded de cd image, the live system starts without anyproblem the installation works fine till 84%, it seems that the installer freezes but after a while the system says "installer crashed..."
[12:49] <Moodles> i'm trying to install the Nvidia 4496 video driver, but when it comes to something about precompiled kernels, it can't find a file called "modversions.h" (amongst the kernel headers etc)...
[12:49] <sentinel> 6.06
[12:50] <cavediver> I've installed snmpd on my server but I don seem to have all mibs. Just a few. How come ?
[12:50] <ss> wtf this is so wierd
[12:50] <ss> why can't i look in my windows ntfs hdd :(:(
[12:50] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: if you want to try it out before messing with fstab first, just use "sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/ice /mnt/point"
[12:51] <Fujitsu> Back.
[12:51] <ucordes> wb
[12:51] <ArthG> hi everyone, anyone knows how to get a working splash screen in dapper with a nvidia card ?
[12:51] <MadMerC> ss have you mounted the drives yet ??
[12:51] <kimbaroth> WOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!1
[12:51] <DustyDingo> hi
[12:51] <kimbaroth> It WORKED!!!!!!!
[12:51] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: works? :)
[12:51] <ss> MadMerC: i don't know how to :\
[12:51] <nox-Hand> Well, it'll have to wait.. Laters
[12:51] <wysifigi>
[12:51] <sentinel> so noone any ideas ?
[12:52] <MadMerC> ss ok neither do i lol but thats where ur problem is ;)
[12:52] <kimbaroth> Terminus: yup =D, It Worked This Way: /dev/sda1       /local/windows1	ntfs	defaults,umask=0222	0	0
[12:52] <ss> lol
[12:52] <Frogzoo> sentinel: try booting the install with these options 'linux acpi=off'   & see how you go....
[12:52] <wysifigi>
[12:52] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: cool. :)
[12:52] <[nige] > hi all
[12:52] <Thug-N-Me> does anyone know where do i get romanian fron for mplayer from ?
[12:52] <MadMerC> ss i did it with mine but i would have come in here to find out how and i dont remember how i did it now
[12:52] <DustyDingo> hm, i want to compile pyqt and sip by my own, but i lack so much basic devel packages, is there a way to get those things very easiely?
[12:52] <Fujitsu> wysifigi, please use a normal font/color, or don't type spaces.
[12:52] <Thug-N-Me> *font
[12:52] <kimbaroth> Terminus: Thanks A Ton Dude, I Really Owe U One =)
[12:52] <sentinel> Frogzoo, okay i will try that immediatedly
[12:53] <DustyDingo> for instance, all gcc, make stuff etc.
[12:53] <[nige] > anyone had a problem installing dual monitors on an ati card wth the new drivers?
[12:53] <Fujitsu> DustyDingo, please install build-essential.
[12:53] <kimbaroth> ic56: Same For U, Thanks a Lot =D
[12:53] <DustyDingo> Fujitsu: k
[12:53] <sugoruyo> so can someone help with that network problem?
[12:53] <neutrinomass> Interesting.... gnome-panel is at 70% CPU usage for some time now ... :-/
[12:53] <ic56> kimbaroth: could you test a variation for me to satisfy my curiosity?
[12:53] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: And Thanks To U2 Dude =D
[12:53] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: np. glad it works. :)
[12:53] <Fujitsu> ubotu, please tell ss about windowsdrives\
[12:53] <ubotu> Fujitsu: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:53] <CaptainMorgan> what is .Xauthority? I can't open it to check it out...
[12:53] <MadMerC> does anyone know of any IRC connection scripts to join an msn groups chatroom ??????
[12:53] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell ss about windowsdrives.
[12:53] <kimbaroth> ic56: Sure, Tell Me What 2 Do
[12:53] <Fujitsu> No problem, kimbaroth.
[12:53] <lee_> hey, what are the common resoultions for lcds? 1024 X 768 I know is one. isn't there another one like 1024/800 ?
[12:54] <Frogzoo> lee_: 1280x800 maybe...
[12:54] <Fujitsu> CaptainMorgan, do you have any reason for viewing it? You're not meant to be able to.
[12:54] <Fujitsu> lee_1280x1024?
[12:54] <Terminus-> ic56: can't remember but i think ntfs defaults to r-x------ perms.
[12:54] <Fujitsu> lee_, 1280x800 is widescreen.
[12:54] <Fujitsu> Terminus-, yes.
[12:54] <lee_> hmmm ok. I don't know why it's not looking right then, everything should be fine
[12:54] <ic56> kimbaroth: try: "ro,uid=kimbaroth,umask=0222".  Then try: "defaults,ro,uid=kimbaroth,umask=0222".  Does either of these work?
[12:55] <Linuxino> hi boys
[12:55] <Fujitsu> lee_, is it a non-widescreen display?
[12:55] <CaptainMorgan> Fujitsu: Im using Kubuntu, my res says 1400x1050, and Im trying to make that accurate as it appears incorrect, that's the only res listed and it seems more like 1024x780
[12:55] <Fujitsu> Hi, Linuxino.
[12:55] <kimbaroth> ic56: ok, sec
[12:55] <Fujitsu> .Xauthority has nothing to do with it...
[12:55] <Fujitsu> CaptainMorgan, is it a laptop?
[12:55] <CaptainMorgan> yes
[12:55] <Frogzoo> CaptainMorgan: 1280x1024 + 1024x768 are std
[12:55] <Fujitsu> CaptainMorgan, with an Intel graphics card?
[12:55] <CaptainMorgan> ? I got 1400x1050 fine in reg Ubuntu
[12:55] <ss> oh
[12:55] <kimbaroth> ic56: ro,uid=kimbaroth,umask=0222 Worked Great =)
[12:56] <CaptainMorgan> ATI
[12:56] <ss> ndiswrapper is on the cd
[12:56] <lee_> It's a 15 inch laptop
[12:56] <ic56> Terminus-: thanks
[12:56] <Frogzoo> !tell CaptainMorgan about fixres
[12:56] <Fujitsu> CaptainMorgan, oh... How odd.
[12:56] <MadMerC> does anyone know where i can go for help with IRC scripts ????
[12:56] <Fujitsu> For which client, MadMerC?
[12:56] <CaptainMorgan> Fujitsu:  sorry, what's odd?
[12:56] <patbam> Fujitsu, lee_: i think i'm in the exact same situation
[12:56] <extern> how to make a file which contains commands and it could be executed? I get permission denied when trying to run it
[12:56] <MadMerC> xchat pref but i can download whatever is best
[12:56] <Terminus-> ic56: are you trying to restrict access to a particular user? you could do uid=foo,gid=bar,umask=0227 :)
[12:56] <ic56> kimbaroth: interesting. This is the second string we tried, except we were only using 3 digits instead of 4.
[12:56] <tuckje> hi there....
[12:56] <Fujitsu> CaptainMorgan, that it works in Ubuntu, but not Kubuntu.
[12:56] <patbam> tho 915resolution improved things
[12:57] <Fujitsu> patbam, how improved?
[12:57] <Fujitsu> patbam, what model laptop?
[12:57] <Frogzoo> any better info on getting pocket pc to sync, other than what's in the wiki?
[12:57] <bitox> how do i get xgl to work on ubuntu 6.06 lts?
[12:57] <Frogzoo> !xgl
[12:57] <ubotu> from memory, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[12:57] <kimbaroth> ic56: defaults,ro,uid=kimbaroth,umask=0222 worked too =)
[12:57] <lee_> I was about to install 915 lol
[12:57] <CaptainMorgan> Fujitsu: not yet anways....
[12:57] <patbam> Fujitsu: a vaio fs-620
[12:57] <ic56> Terminus-: yes, my intention was to restrict access to that user.
[12:57] <ArthG> lee_, std res for a 15 inches lcd pannel is 1024x768
[12:57] <Fujitsu> patbam, OK. Did 915resolution fix it completely?
[12:58] <ic56> kimbaroth: thank you!  Now, let me explain what uid= does, and you can decide whether you want it or not.
[12:58] <kimbaroth> ic56: yay!
[12:58] <lee_> Grr thanks arthg.  That's what it was already set as :(
[12:58] <patbam> it's much better now (not stretched out horizontally), but i assumed that higher resolutions would show up in preferences > resolution
[12:58] <MadMerC> Fujitsu xchat pref but i can download whateve is best
[12:59] <TheBigToe> hehe, I started xchat before the startup sound had even finished >:D
[12:59] <TheBigToe> I love 6.06
[12:59] <zcat[1] > If you want to restrict who can read ntfs, make an ntfs group. Make the mount readable by ntfs group, and add specific user to it.
[12:59] <Frogzoo> fiddling around with the 'Power Manager' applet, I managed to turn on power suspend, is there a direct way to enable power suspend in gnome? I'd like to update the wiki if possible
[12:59] <WINBALL> BitchX-75p3+Tcl2.0 by panasync - Linux 2.4.23-grsec
[12:59] <ic56> kimbaroth: in both NTFS and in unix-style filesystems, every file, every directory, every device, etc, has an owner and a group.  These owners and groups map to the username you use to login.  Thus, when you
[12:59] <Fujitsu> Frogzoo, there is a gconf key.
[12:59] <lee_> Oh, what's the hotkey for opening the run dialog?
[01:00] <zcat[1] > !groups
[01:00] <ubotu> zcat[1] : My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:00] <daniel_bergamini> Frogzoo if you hit the power button it will be an option there (like shutdown, reboot, etc)
[01:00] <Fujitsu> Frogzoo, apps/gnome-power-manager/can-suspend
[01:00] <tuckje> !groups
[01:00] <Frogzoo> Fujitsu: sure, but where? is there a quicker way to find it than just clicking through the configuration editor?
[01:00] <Frogzoo> daniel_bergamini: nope - not until gnome decides to enable it (which is what I want to know how to do)
[01:00] <ic56> kimbaroth: login as "kimbaroth", you have access to files who's owner is "u1".  (you also belong to several groups but we won't go into that).  Now, the problem is that the owners and groups are internally implemented as numbers.
[01:01] <Moodles> say I want to build the kernel source, which one is it under the Synaptic manager?
[01:01] <Frogzoo> Fujitsu: thx m8
[01:01] <daniel_bergamini> Frogzoo sorry, to enable power suspend... not actually suspend
[01:01] <Fujitsu> Frogzoo, not other than System->Preferences->Power Management, then enable one of the suspend on inactive options...
[01:01] <tph> One question, have anyone got an idea why rhythmbox decides to race through my music-collection after playing one song?
[01:01] <zcat[1] > ic56: there's probably a tutorial you can point him to rather than typing this all out ;)
[01:01] <ic56> kimbaroth: thus "kimbaroth" in your current ubuntu system is mapped to userid (uid) 1000 -- as displayed by the output of the mount command when the uid= option is set.
[01:01] <kimbaroth> ic56: ahhhh, I understand =D
[01:01] <Stormx2> What is IPv6?
[01:02] <Fujitsu> Stormx2, a new version of the Internet Protocol.
[01:02] <lee_> kimbaroth internat protocol version 6
[01:02] <Nipoc> hey does anyone know if the fact firefox cant update itself is a (x)ubuntu thing or is it a linux thing
[01:02] <MadMerC> Stormx2 IPv6 is version 6 of the IP protocol
[01:02] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: for info on how the numbers in umask work, see "man chmod". :)
[01:02] <Fujitsu> Nipoc, Ubuntu.
[01:02] <Frogzoo> Fujitsu: that sounds like what should go in the wiki then
[01:02] <neutrinomass> Stormx2: Try googling it. Basically, an extension to the current IP protocol to allow lots of IP addresses.
[01:02] <Stormx2> What happened to v5?
[01:02] <Fujitsu> Frogzoo, probably.
[01:02] <Stormx2> :
[01:02] <Fujitsu> Stormx2, not a normal versioning system, there was no v5.
[01:02] <zcat[1] > Nipoc: I think it's an apt-does-it-better thing. Firefox runs as a user and can't update root-owned installs of itself.
[01:02] <h3sp4wn> Nipoc: Security updates will be applied by ubuntu
[01:02] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: umask is specified in an opposite way though since it's a mask.
[01:03] <dsas> Nipoc: If you really want to update firefox see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:03] <Nipoc> thanks
[01:03] <lee_> How do you run an application that is not in the Applications menu? :(
[01:03] <ic56> kimbaroth: Windows has its own login setup and, even if you have the same username, the uid it maps to will be completely different.  This means that when you mount a windows filesystem under Ubuntu, the ownerships of all the files don't match to any users the Ubuntu system knows about.
[01:03] <MadMerC> does anyone know where i can get an IRC connection script so i can join an msn groups chatroom ???
[01:03] <dsas> lee_: hold alt then press F2, then type in the program name
[01:03] <Fujitsu> lee_, enter the appropriate program's name in a terminal?
[01:04] <Fujitsu> MadMerC, why would MSN Groups use IRC!?
[01:04] <lee_> Okay thanks
[01:04] <lee_> works..
[01:04] <Mulder_> where does dapper store the network config files. suppose i compiled a 3rd party nic driver loaded it. i now want it to autoconfigure via dhcp on startup
[01:04] <richiefrich> MadMerC what irc client ?
[01:04] <kimbaroth> ic56 and Terminus: I See, Can I Ask Something?
[01:04] <dsas> Mulder_: /etc/network/interfaces
[01:04] <zcat[1] > MadMerC: I think you want an IM client like gaim perhaps. MSN isn't IRC.
[01:04] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: shoot. :)
[01:04] <kimbaroth> ic56 and Terminus: What ro stands for?
[01:04] <ic56> kimbaroth: the uid= option tells Ubuntu to pretend that all file on the NTFS filesystem are owned by that user.  This means that you can use the NTFS filesystem and still have a modicum of security -- only *you* will have access to those files.
[01:04] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, read-only.
[01:04] <Mulder_> dsas, ok cool. something like iface eth0 inet dhcp will do the job?
[01:04] <dsas> zcat[1] : If you want to talk on MSN using IRC then install bitlbee
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> Mulder: /etc/network/interfaces
[01:04] <kimbaroth> Fujitsu: ah xD
[01:04] <Terminus-> kimbaroth: Fujitsu answered it. hehe. :)
[01:04] <dsas> Mulder_: From the top of my head that sounds fine.
[01:05] <sfar> where can i see wich partition is hd0,0, and wich is hd0,1 and so on?
[01:05] <extern> how to make a script file to be executable?
[01:05] <Fujitsu> Mulder_, yep.
[01:05] <Fujitsu> extern, chmod +x filename
[01:05] <Mulder_> Fujitsu, cool
[01:05] <MadMerC> MSN groups chatrooms run thru IRC i have connected to them using Mirc with connection scripts on windows but i want to do it thru linux now
[01:05] <simian__> i've just managed to get Network-Manager working by commenting out any wifi info in /etc/network/interfaces   and it is working really well, but how do you set a static IP now?
[01:05] <richiefrich> hd0,0 = hda1
[01:05] <richiefrich> hd0,1 = hda2
[01:05] <lee_> grrr.....
[01:05] <Fujitsu> simian__, I don't think you can :(
[01:05] <Fujitsu> lee_, what's wrong?
[01:05] <DarkRavenMixage> i got a problem... i installed cups from the website and i compiled it (to solve a bug with sharings between ubuntu and windows printers) now when i try to start the service it returns this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 1! cups: unable to start schedule. (i installed from subversion like the fix of my problem said.) i can't print anymore
[01:05] <kimbaroth> ic56: I see, and what happen if I log linux with another account??
[01:05] <zcat[1] > MadMerC: what dsas said then!
[01:05] <richiefrich> sfar that was for u
[01:06] <simian__> Fujitsu: oh :(
[01:06] <kimbaroth> ic56: I cant acces that partition, rite?
[01:06] <extern> hmm, after executing it I got error on the last line of it, that permission was denied
[01:06] <extern> what else should I change?
[01:06] <MadMerC> richiefrich i dont mind what client but i am currently using xchat
[01:06] <lee_> It's just not working lol. I'll search google a little bit more
[01:06] <Fujitsu> extern, what does the script do?
[01:06] <extern> sudo iptables -F -t nat
[01:06] <extern> sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[01:06] <extern> sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:06] <extern> it does not allow the last line
[01:06] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[01:06] <sfar> richiefrich: yay, thanks.. so hd2,3 would be hdc4 ? :)
[01:06] <ic56> kimbaroth: if you don't use the uid= option, then the files ownerships appear to Ubuntu as they are, which means they are useless.  Thus, to gain access to your files, you must rely on them being globally accessible to everyone.  According to Fujitsu, the "umask=" option causes Ubuntu to pretend everything is globally readable.
[01:07] <richiefrich> MadMerC well i dont know but do u want to join an channel #msn?
[01:07] <kimbaroth> ic56: ohhhh
[01:07] <MadMerC> dsas what program did you suggest ???
[01:07] <ewouk> i have a problem
[01:07] <kimbaroth> ic56: I clearly understands now =)
[01:07] <zcat[1] > you can't sudo echo > /anywhere .. the "> /anywhere" still gets run as regular user..
[01:07] <ewouk> as soon as my dapper starts, it seems correct but then when i waight for about 20 secs. it hangs and nothing responds :/
[01:07] <Fujitsu> extern, you should probably remove the sudo from the start of all the lines, and then just run the script using sudo.
[01:07] <richiefrich> sfar no it'd be hdc4 or sdb4
[01:07] <Fujitsu> ewouk, what is displayed while it hangs?
[01:07] <ewouk> what should i do about that?
[01:07] <dsas> MadMerC: I suggested using bitlbee to connect to msn using an IRC client. But that's for msn messenger not for msn groups (he just needs to know what their irc server is i guess)
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> extern: uncomment net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 (from /etc/sysctl.conf) you are better off putting the other lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:07] <kimbaroth> ic56: lemme take note of the steps, cuz 2morrow im gonna install ubuntu ond a friends PC, and he have NTFS too
[01:07] <ewouk> everything, i even clicked on firefox browser...
[01:08] <richiefrich> sfar  hd0 = hda    hd1 = hdb  and so on all depends what u have
[01:08] <ewouk> ( its on a laptop system )
[01:08] <ic56> kimbaroth: correct. with the uid= option set, only one user would own the files.  Though this doesn't preclude also using the umask= option to also make the files globally readable (though it's kinda pointless, for most uses, to use both)
[01:08] <extern> Fujitsu, I want to put that file into the init.rd
[01:08] <Pantsos> hello
[01:08] <extern> so it could get executed everytime I start my pc
[01:08] <nightw0lf> hi, does anyone use turboprint here?
[01:08] <Fujitsu> extern, init.d?
[01:08] <PPower> does anyone know any good linux ICOM ic706MKG2 rig control software that works with ubuntu
[01:08] <extern> yes
[01:08] <richiefrich> sfar  if u have no hda  and only sdX  then  grub doesn't care
[01:08] <Pantsos> how do i upgrade from Ubuntu Dapper Drake RC to the stable release ?
[01:08] <Pantsos> just apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:08] <Sjoerd-> Does anyone use Moonlight Commander?
[01:08] <neutrinomass> Pantsos, may I please /msg you ?
[01:08] <zcat[1] > PPower: try apt-cache search, sonething might show up...
[01:08] <dsas> !tell Pantsos about upgrading
[01:09] <Fujitsu> Sjoerd-, Midnight Commander?
[01:09] <MadMerC> does anyone know if mIRC works on linux ???
[01:09] <richiefrich> sfar hda4 = hd0,3
[01:09] <extern> I remember someone said something with chown too
[01:09] <extern> so it worked
[01:09] <Pantsos> thx
[01:09] <DustyDingo> Error: qglobal.h could not be found in /usr/share/qt3/include.
[01:09] <kimbaroth> ic56: ooook, done
[01:09] <Flannel> MadMerC: through wine, but why not use something native?
[01:09] <myst> hi
[01:09] <Sjoerd-> yes midnight commander
[01:09] <nightw0lf> MadMerC: why should anyone want to use mirc on linux?
[01:09] <DustyDingo> what can be the problem?
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> extern: Why init.d ? Surely it makes sense to run it when ever the other network card goes uo
[01:09] <Sjoerd-> Fujitsu: Do you advise using it, or something else?
[01:09] <kimbaroth> ic56: Can I ask something not related to "partitions"??
[01:09] <PPower> zcat[1] : there was one called icom that doesnt work (it requires /dev/icom and is command line). the person who i am setting linux up for is completly new to it and wants something graphically
[01:09] <Fujitsu> Sjoerd-, depends what you want to do.
[01:09] <ic56> kimbaroth: ok.  So, what did you decide -- how will you run your system?
[01:09] <Fujitsu> kimbaroth, fire away.
[01:09] <ic56> kimbaroth: sure, ask away.
[01:09] <myst> can i ask something about ubuntu? is it able to run windows programs?
[01:09] <Sjoerd-> Fujitsu: For a webserver
[01:09] <ewouk> my laptop hangs after mounting file system..... ???
[01:10] <Fujitsu> myst, some are able to be run through Wine.
[01:10] <patbam> why is the version of synaptic that comes up under applications>>add/remove different from the one that comes up under system>>administration>>synaptic ?
[01:10] <Flannel> myst: some of them, via wine.
[01:10] <richiefrich> myst yes
[01:10] <kimbaroth> ic56: Wich Audio Player do you recommend me?'
[01:10] <PPower> myst: www.winehq.com
[01:10] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell myst about wine
[01:10] <zcat[1] > nope, but you could possibly run the windows software under wine ..
[01:10] <extern> h3sp4wn, I want it to get executed each time I start my computer
[01:10] <Fujitsu> myst, see the link ubotu sent you.
[01:10] <ic56> kimbaroth: no knowledge of audio players -- sorry.
[01:10] <ewouk> "Kernel panic, not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt".... what means that?!
[01:10] <richiefrich> myst wine or cedega
[01:10] <DustyDingo> i installed qt3-dev-tools, but i still lack a /usr/share/qt3/include dir? which package contains this stuff?
[01:10] <zcat[1] > ewouk: tarfu!!
[01:10] <MadMerC> Flannel nightw0lf i want to connect to a msn groups chatroom and the only way i know of doing that thru IRC is using mIRC with connection scripts
[01:11] <sfar> richiefrich: so sda2 would be hd0,1 then?
[01:11] <Fujitsu> ewouk, it means something went horribly, horribly wrong.
[01:11] <ewouk> &&
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> extern: Is eth1 the interface which is going to the internet ?
[01:11] <Fujitsu> sfar, yes.
[01:11] <myst> hmmm i'd use ubuntu if ppl made games for it :) but i think i'll keep it to laggy slow windows -.-
[01:11] <kimbaroth> ic56: hehehehe, ooooooookie^^
[01:11] <Frogzoo> any better info on getting pocket pc to sync, other than what's in the wiki?
[01:11] <sfar> hm
[01:11] <extern> yes
[01:11] <nightw0lf> MadMerC: you could try to connect via jabber
[01:11] <richiefrich> sfar yes if u have no hdX  for a HDD
[01:11] <extern> h3sp4wn, the commands in script works fine
[01:11] <ewouk> Fujitsu, what can i do about it ?!
[01:11] <extern> I just wonder how to make it to execute
[01:11] <ic56> ewouk: it means the kernel detected either a bug or something wrong with the hardware.  To be safe, the kernel is terminating immediately *without* writing "syncing" to the disks
[01:11] <Fujitsu> ewouk, what hardware are you running?
[01:11] <MadMerC> nightw0lf do msn groups have jabber servers ???
[01:11] <kimbaroth> ic56: What do you mean with: How will I run my system???
[01:11] <richiefrich> sfar if  your running all scsi or SATA u got it
[01:11] <zcat[1] > ewouk: where did it happen? can you identify what might have caused it?
[01:12] <ic56> kimbaroth: I mean, will use uid= or not?
[01:12] <nightw0lf> MadMerC: i'm not sure about it...
[01:12] <ArthG> how can I change the fb device at boot time ? vesa fb16 does not work for me
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> extern: You wouldn't use sudo bootup script like that (because it would be running as root anyway)
[01:12] <ewouk> Fujitsu, Laptop Toshiba M70-147 Centrino 1.73 Ghz
[01:12] <sfar> yeah im runnnig all sata
[01:12] <kimbaroth> ic56: yup, im gonna use it
[01:12] <richiefrich> sfar then your hd0,0 sda1 and so on   hd1,0 sdb1
[01:13] <penyaskito> How can I play my iPod music with Rythmbox? I'm using Breezy. Thanx in advance
[01:13] <ic56> kimbaroth: ok. we need to make some adjustments to get things *just* right.
[01:13] <richiefrich> sfar u change the 1st number u change the drive :)
[01:13] <extern> h3sp4wn how to change the owner of the file to root?
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> extern: All you need is post-up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE (under the eth1 section of /etc/network/interfaces)
[01:13] <kimbaroth> ic56: ook
[01:13] <sfar> richiefrich: hehe.. I'll see if it works now.. thanks for the help!
[01:13] <zcat[1] > !mp3
[01:13] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> extern: chown root:root file
[01:14] <ic56> kimbaroth: first, we should add the "auto" flag.  Secondly, hmm, let me check something.
[01:14] <kimbaroth> ic56: ok, ill wait
[01:14] <zcat[1] > for itms files you ask Steve really nicely to please stop using DRM.
[01:14] <extern> h3sp4wn I tried puting it there, but then both of my network cards were not activated
[01:14] <extern> and it didn't work
[01:14] <Fujitsu> zcat[1] , sounds about right.
[01:14] <patbam> if i installed dapper today would i have the latest alsa drivers? if not, how do i get them?
[01:15] <Fujitsu> patbam, you'd have the latest.
[01:15] <extern> h3sp4wn, I got this error: chown: changing ownership of `sharing': Operation not permitted
[01:15] <penyaskito> Some help with iPod & Ubuntu?
[01:15] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[01:15] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[01:15] <richiefrich> patbam all depens if u use kernel alsa or the alsa-driver
[01:15] <dsas> penyaskito: ask your question directly
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> extern: sudo chown root:root file
[01:15] <penyaskito> How can I play my iPod music with Rythmbox? I'm using Breezy
[01:15] <extern> h3sp4wn, lol, I just remembered that :S
[01:15] <zcat[1] > afaik the ipod should appear as a simple USB drive..
[01:15] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, no it doesn't.
[01:16] <ewouk> Fujitsu, can i solve that kernel panic error, or is it to bad?
[01:16] <richiefrich> Fujitsu yes there different versions
[01:16] <patbam> richiefrich: i found someone who seems to have had a very similar problem to me (no sound) here: http://clip.dia.fi.upm.es/~cochoa/wiki/index.php/Installing_Ubuntu_On_a_Vaio#Sound , so i'm trying to figure out what he did
[01:16] <Fujitsu> ewouk, please file a bug.
[01:16] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, no.
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> extern: It has to be in post-up (not pre-up) for the interface which is initialised last in the file
[01:16] <KenSentMe> Has anyone here installed wpa security for their wireless connection? I've read the wiki, but the network-manager-gnome doesn't work as described there
[01:16] <richiefrich> Fujitsu yes  i will disagree
[01:16] <Fujitsu> KenSentMe, why doesn't it work?
[01:16] <penyaskito> Rythmbox says I might need to install codecs, but I don't know what codecs I will need
[01:16] <dsas> KenSentMe: It can be dodgy on some hardware.
[01:16] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell penyaskito about restricted
[01:16] <Fujitsu> penyaskito, please see the link ubotu sent you.
[01:17] <KenSentMe> Fujitsu, dsas, nevermind. My laptop won't boot anymore :(
[01:17] <Fujitsu> KenSentMe, why not?
[01:17] <patbam> searching synaptic for alsa driver turns up several hits, but i'm not sure which i need?
[01:17] <zcat[1] > ewouk: try to identify as much as you can about what you're running, anything you did that might have made it panic.. especially anything you can do that reliably makes it panic again. the developers love those.\
[01:17] <Fujitsu> patbam, don't worry. You have the latest.
[01:17] <richiefrich> patbam  if u use the driver u must disble it in the kernel
[01:17] <KenSentMe> Fujitsu, won't boot at all, doesn't even get to the bios, so i'll have to check that first
[01:18] <Fujitsu> KenSentMe, aha. That's good, sort of.
[01:18] <ic56> kimbaroth: mmm, I see the wiki article sets the umask in such a way as to make it impossible to accidentally execute a program from the NTFS partition.  It would not be possible to execute a windows program, of course -- you'd just get an error message.  But you might want to execute a Linux program that you downloaded while running windows.  On the other hand, if you consider windows less secure, executing any
[01:18] <patbam> Fujitsu: ok, but i don't have sound
[01:18] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe: is grub messed up? did you reconfigure?
[01:18] <Fujitsu> patbam, what sound card?
[01:18] <extern> h3sp4wn, do I need to set ip_forward to 1 anywhere if I put it in interfaces?
[01:18] <ic56> kimbaroth: file from that partition could be seen as a security hole.  What do you think?
[01:18] <Fujitsu> Frogzoo, it doesn't even get to BIOS.
[01:18] <zcat[1] > Frogzoo: no BIOS suggests the problem is NOT grub.. ;(
[01:18] <karron> qiubo: hi
[01:19] <penyaskito> Fujitsu, thanx. Now it sounds good :)
[01:19] <richiefrich> Fujitsu how can u say there the same when there differnet ver
[01:19] <Fujitsu> penyaskito, no problem.
[01:19] <patbam> $ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 |head -2  => Codec: Realtek ALC260
[01:19] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo, no, i power up, it runs 3 secs and then powers off. Hardware failure i think. Before i booted the screen light was very low
[01:19] <Fujitsu> richiefrich, the kernel one is the latest available.
[01:19] <Fujitsu> patbam, hmm... An odd Realtek chip.
[01:19] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe: try it with AC power attached...
[01:19] <kimbaroth> ic56: Then I Should quit the unmask option?
[01:19] <richiefrich> Fujitsu no it's not, and what ver kernel and what is the one in the kerenl that u think ?
[01:20] <Moodles> is it worth downgrading to the 2.5 kernel to get this old nvidia driver working, or should I just download an old version of ubuntu which has the 2.5 kernel?
[01:20] <torh> I had a little "problem" during install, in which my user wasn't pushed into the /etc/sudoers-file. Can anyone tell me what to write there? I'm using Drapper. Thanks.
[01:20] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo, doesn't help. It's for half an hour now, but still same prob
[01:20] <PPower> Moodles: no ubuntu version has 2.5. it is a dev version
[01:20] <Fujitsu> Moodles, 2.5 is a development kernel, it's old.
[01:20] <patbam> Fujitsu: i found a meandering thread in the bug tracker but it didn't give any clear suggestions (or at least, any that i could make out)
[01:20] <Fujitsu> There is no version of Ubuntu with kernel 2.5
[01:20] <Moodles> ah, so I should go down to 2.4
[01:20] <Fujitsu> patbam, what bug number?
[01:20] <zcat[1] > Moodles: install the nvidia-glx-legacy package ..
[01:20] <Fujitsu> Moodles, what Nvidia driver?
[01:20] <ic56> kimbaroth: if you want to *prevent* execution of programs on the NTFS partition, we need to change the umask.  Otherwise, 0222 is fine.
[01:20] <h3sp4wn> extern: net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 has to be uncommented from /etc/sysctl.conf (edit it with sudo and remove the #)
[01:20] <Moodles> 4496, 2003'ish
[01:21] <Moodles> RivaTV doesn't work with 5500+
[01:21] <mirak> when doing debootstrap is it needed to mount sysfs ?
[01:21] <Mulder_> hmmm. my friend had his nic working in breezy but now he's dist-upgraded to dapper and its not working. i told him to add 'sundance' (nic driver) module to /etc/modules and now it autoloads the module on boot. i told him to add auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp to /etc/network/interfaces  but after boot, ifconfig reports that eth0 has a mac (driver working) but it has no ip . ie. the dhcp failed for some reason
[01:21] <patbam> Fujitsu:   #28443:
[01:21] <Jemt> Greetz. I have installed an external USB HDD on my laptop, running Breezy. Unfortunately I can't write to the disc - only read now. The funny thing is, that it actually worked the first time I plugged it in. Can anyone help me?
[01:21] <bigfoot1> 	how can i do search on my hard drive for files that have been added in the last minute?
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> extern: Once you have finished pastebin me /etc/network/interfaces and I will tell you whether I think its right
[01:21] <kimbaroth> ic56: well, I dont think im gonna run anything from that partition, I just have music on it
[01:22] <kimbaroth> ic56: I think 0222 is ok
[01:22] <extern> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[01:22] <extern> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
[01:22] <extern> # The loopback network interface
[01:22] <extern> auto lo
[01:22] <extern> iface lo inet loopback
[01:22] <extern> # The primary network interface
[01:22] <extern> auto eth1
[01:22] <extern> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[01:22] <extern> post-up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[01:22] <patbam> Fujitsu: should i try to figure out how to install the cvs version of the alsa driver?
[01:22] <extern> iface eth0 inet static
[01:22] <KenSentMe> !paste
[01:22] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[01:22] <extern> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:22] <Jemt> !tell extern about enter
[01:22] <extern> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:22] <extern> auto eth0
[01:22] <Fujitsu> patbam, that's a possibility.
[01:22] <ic56> kimbaroth: ok then, so just add the "auto" flag then.
[01:22] <KenSentMe> !tell extern about paste
[01:23] <kimbaroth> ic56: defaults,ro,uid=kimbaroth,umask=0222,auto ????
[01:23] <neutrinomass> Mulder_: I'm not sure what your problem is, but just because the device shows under ifconfig, it doesn't mean it's using the correct driver. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DavicomEthernet
[01:23] <richiefrich> hmm i thought it was the same ?
[01:23] <sugoruyo> hey folks sorry to be so bothersome but has anyone taken a look at what i pasted?
[01:23] <patbam> Fujitsu: so how can i tell if the driver in question is in the kernel or a separate thing? (sorry, i'm a bit fuzzy on lower level kernelish things...)
[01:24] <Mulder_> neutrinomass, it's the correct driver. custom recompiled for the dapper kernel. used the same driver in breezy fine (compiled for breezy kernel then though)
[01:24] <Fujitsu> patbam, I've got to go for a while.
[01:24] <richiefrich> patbam what kernel?
[01:24] <neutrinomass> Mulder_: Hm... ok then ...not sure ..
[01:24] <ic56> kimbaroth: you don't need "defaults".  And best if we put them in the order people expect:  ro,auto,umask=0222,uid=kimbaroth
[01:24] <Mulder_> how do you us ethe dhcp-client by hand
[01:24] <richiefrich> patbam the latest drivers are 1.0.11
[01:24] <patbam> Fujitsu: thanks for your help
[01:24] <Mulder_> dhcp3-client
[01:24] <zach> i'm trying to setup a wiki on ubuntu does anyone know how to do this
[01:24] <bigfoot1> where does httrack write the files by default?
[01:24] <Jemt> Greetz. I have installed an external USB HDD on my laptop, running Breezy. Unfortunately I can't write to the disc - only read now. The funny thing is, that it actually worked the first time I plugged it in. The device is not listed in fstab - Can anyone help me?
[01:25] <extern> h3sp4wn, so is it ok?
[01:25] <Frogzoo> zach: create yourself a login
[01:25] <patbam> richiefrich:  2.6.15-23-386
[01:25] <zach> how
[01:25] <neutrinomass> zach: Just type http://wiki.ubuntu.com/The_Page_You_Want and start creating it ... You'll need a wiki account
[01:25] <QPAD|warlock> How do I get my intel xeon's proccesors to work? I only see one for some reason, but i have 2 intel xeon's 3.0 64bits
[01:25] <richiefrich> then the driver is much newer
[01:25] <richiefrich> patbam ^^
[01:25] <BazziR> Jemt: is it in mtab?
[01:25] <Jemt> BazziR: Checking
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> extern: Have a look at http://pastebin.com/757383 (the post-up has to be on the interface which is brought up last)
[01:26] <zach> what i mean is a wiki for my self on a server that i have runnin
[01:26] <shriphani> hello ogra
[01:26] <Jemt> BazziR: Yep, it is
[01:26] <patbam> richiefrich: can i get the updated driver in an apt repo or must i compile it?
[01:26] <BazziR> hmm
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> extern: Have you changed sysctl.conf ?
[01:26] <richiefrich> patbam whats this tell u --> lspci | grep Multimedia
[01:26] <BazziR> so it should be mounted on plugging it in
[01:26] <ic56> kimbaroth: finally, you should do a boot test: reboot your system to verify that when it comes back up, the NTFS filesystem will be automatically mounted -- so you never have to use the "mount" command manually.
[01:26] <shriphani> guys where can i find win codecs for totem movie player ?
[01:26] <BazziR> gtg
[01:26] <extern> yes
[01:26] <patbam> richiefrich: nothing
[01:26] <Jemt> BazziR: It is mounted
[01:27] <Jemt> BazziR: I just can't write to the partition
[01:27] <richiefrich> patbam whats this tell u --> sudo lspci | grep Multimedia
[01:27] <Jemt> BazziR: Ubuntu says "Read-only system"
[01:27] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomass: Is the router working now ?
[01:27] <kimbaroth> ic56: ok, So, I Just umount it?
[01:27] <unary> hello all :)
[01:27] <kimbaroth> ic56: and then reboot?
[01:27] <patbam> richiefrich: there is this line: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:27] <ic56> kimbaroth: no need to umount -- that too is now automatic
[01:27] <Jemt> BazziR: Btw - it is formated with vfat
[01:27] <unary> hardware related quries OK here ?
[01:27] <kimbaroth> ic56: oooook, Then Ill BRB
[01:27] <ic56> kimbaroth: I'll wait
[01:27] <kimbaroth> ic56: lets see how it works
[01:28] <richiefrich> patbam let me get u a url
[01:28] <patbam> richiefrich: thanks
[01:28] <richiefrich> np
[01:28] <zach> has anyone done this before?
[01:28] <QPAD|warlock> How do I get my intel xeon's proccesors to work? I only see one for some reason, but i have 2 intel xeon's 3.0 64bits
[01:28] <dsas> !tell shriphani about restricted
[01:28] <Jemt> BazziR: Not even root can write to the drive
[01:28] <unary> join #linux
[01:28] <Aynjell> Hello all.
[01:28] <extern> h3sp4wn, so I should place the post-up line at the end?
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> extern: I think so
[01:29] <bigfoot1> how can i do search on my hard drive for files that have been added in the last minute?
[01:29] <sentinel> ok i tried to boot with boot=linux acpi=off and have had kernel panic :-) what do i do now ?
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> extern: Just means it will be run after both interfaces are up
[01:30] <zach> so no one here has set up a wiki on ubuntu
[01:30] <extern> ok, thanks
[01:30] <Frogzoo> sentinel: 'linux acpi=off'      lose the 'boot='
[01:30] <kimbaroth> ic56: It worked great =)
[01:31] <zach> anyone?
[01:31] <grasshopper> its gksudo nautilus to open nautilus as root? I want to take someting i downloaded into home to /etc/networking but don't have the permission to do so. So...
[01:31] <sentinel> well i tried that too the kernel panic message was a bit longer :-) and than my asus board said: "system failed due cpu overclocking"
[01:31] <richiefrich> patbam  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel
[01:31] <ic56> kimbaroth: excellent!  good luck with your friend's install.  ttyl!
[01:31] <grasshopper> sentinel: do you play Go
[01:31] <dsas> bigfoot1: You need the find command, I couldn't tell you what you need to do with it though
[01:31] <sentinel> Go ?
[01:31] <Frogzoo> bigfoot1: man find - or just run 'sudo updatedb' & then 'locate' will work
[01:31] <kimbaroth> ic56: Thanks again =), Its time to get some sleep^^
[01:31] <sentinel> should i try the alternate install cd ?
[01:32] <Hajuu> Hey hey! Could anyone tell me why using breezy repositories, I cant find nvidia-xconfig package that you "apparently" need to enable the nvidia graphics? :/
[01:32] <NoWhereMan[away] > hi guys
[01:32] <kimbaroth> ic56: Peace Out!
[01:32] <richiefrich> patbam thats the alsa site and tells u how to had compile it, but u must make sure u doent have it in your kernel
[01:32] <patbam> richiefrich: thanks. do you have any suggestions as to whether i should do a  module or a kernel rebuild?
[01:32] <ic56> kimbaroth: sweet Ubuntu dreams!  What timezone are you in anyway?
[01:32] <extern> I've got another problem - my login screen is at 2048x1536 resolution, setup asked me for the best resolution :P I can't find where to change the resolution of the login scren
[01:32] <grasshopper> sentinel: someone with your handle plays Go [very well]  over at kgs, Doesn't sound like you though if you don't know what the word means
[01:32] <QPAD|warlock> What SMP kernel to install if i want to use both of my intel xeon 3.0 64bits?
[01:32] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: Yes. Load 'dmfe' instead of 'tulip' and it works automagically :)
[01:32] <NoWhereMan[away] > I've managed to get back xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver. does it happen to you too having the SAME image two or three times-in-a-row ?
[01:32] <patbam> richiefrich:  i presume because if it's in kernel it would override anything that's a module
[01:33] <NoWhereMan[away] > (with glslideshow)
[01:33] <Frogzoo> !tell extern about fixres - or system -> prefs -> screen resn
[01:33] <hesam> hi
[01:33] <zach> Does anyone know how to setup a wiki on ubuntu?
[01:33] <[nige] > anyone know if ati has dropped support for the big desktop with the new ati drivers
[01:33] <richiefrich> patbam no it will fail to cmopile
[01:33] <sentinel> grasshopper,  i think its just a common nickname
[01:33] <Frogzoo> !tell extern about fixres
[01:33] <hesam> this is my first time here
[01:33] <patbam> richiefrich: i see
[01:33] <hesam> im new to Linux
[01:33] <fiveiron> anyone using ldap?
[01:33] <h3sp4wn> neutrinomass: Is that a bug in the hardware detection of ubuntu then ?
[01:33] <dsas> zach: You need to give more information. the easiest way is to install moin
[01:33] <Frogzoo> zach: google 'lamp + wiki'
[01:33] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: Heh, I made a wiki page that people might run across when having issues with it
[01:33] <richiefrich> patbam idk if there in the repos
[01:33] <grasshopper> sentinel: i see - like grasshopper, hehe
[01:33] <neutrinomass> h3sp4wn: Yes, reported it :)
[01:33] <edc> i think i found a local root exploit, who do i speak to?
[01:34] <sentinel> :-D
[01:34] <ald> !tell ald about fixres
[01:34] <neutrinomass> (It's still unconfirmed though )
[01:34] <sentinel> SO can anyone help me ?
[01:34] <QPAD|warlock> apt-get install linux-686-smp - would this install both of my intel xeon's on 64bits?
[01:34] <Steve|> hi, i'm having problems with ndiswrapper... it says it can't utilize my hardware or somthing like that?
[01:34] <grasshopper> can someone help me aswell please
[01:34] <patbam> richiefrich: ok. golly, this is pretty involved.
[01:34] <dsas> edc: file a bug on whatever it is, mark it as security related and it should subscribe the security contact for that package
[01:34] <grasshopper> or anyone
[01:34] <neutrinomass> edc: File a bug on Launchpad and say yes to 'security issue'
[01:34] <QPAD|warlock> Anyone ?!
[01:35] <richiefrich> patbam it's not that hard, but if u can get then from the repos it'd be easier
[01:35] <grasshopper> i don't mind; anyone or someone, but i need help
[01:35] <Frogzoo> QPAD|warlock: nope - 686 is 32 bit
[01:35] <patbam> richiefrich: how do i know what its name is so i can search?
[01:35] <bigfoot1> ok. i did the find command
[01:35] <grasshopper> is it gksudo nautilus to open nautilus as root?
[01:35] <edc> dsas : too much effort, am writing accountin exams soon, i will rather pass it onto someone like seveas or crimsum
[01:35] <dsas> grasshopper: yes
[01:35] <grasshopper> thx dsas
[01:35] <bigfoot1> how can i find the complete URL of the file in my harddrive.
[01:35] <QPAD|warlock> Frogzoo, what's the exact then? I'm new to these stuff. I need to make sure that both of my intel xeon processors are working correctly (both needs to be shown up) Any ideas Frogzoo ?
[01:35] <bigfoot1> find is giving only the last subdirectory.
[01:35] <dsas> edc: That's up to you, just make sure it's someone you trust.
[01:35] <fiveiron> anyone using ldap?
[01:36] <bigfoot1> it doesn't give the direcotroies that the file is in.
[01:36] <zach> dsas, ok i have moin installed now what do i do
[01:36] <grasshopper> dsas: do you happen to know the command line to move folder from one to another? is it mv?
[01:36] <dsas> edc: And that you know it is actually them you are informing
[01:36] <dsas> grasshopper: mv -R
[01:36] <sentinel> i am trying to install the 6.06 version on my AMD64 Athlon, the live system words fine and boots and the installer starts too, while the message "configuring apt" appears the installer seems to be freezing after a while the system says "installer crashed" any ideas ?
[01:36] <Tesuki> hello
[01:36] <dsas> grasshopper: mv -R original_folder new_folder
[01:36] <sentinel> words = works
[01:36] <grasshopper> dsas mv-R?
[01:36] <dsas> zach: use it.
[01:36] <richiefrich> patbam  i just found this, so it soent look like there in the repos ..   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182317
[01:37] <dsas> grasshopper: mv -R, there's a space between the mv and the -
[01:37] <zach> were do i point my browser
[01:37] <grasshopper> dsas: and you give the whole pathname?
[01:37] <dsas> grasshopper: Either relative or the whole pathname
[01:37] <mirak> weo: Failure while installing base packages.  This will be re-attempted up to five times.
[01:37] <hyphenated> dsas: there's no -R option for mv (not does it need it)
[01:37] <mirak> whn I deboostrap
[01:37] <edc> dsas, : link for the launchpad bug repoort thing?
[01:37] <grasshopper> relative is shorter? but how?
[01:37] <dsas> edc: launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:37] <mirak> when I debootstrap
[01:37] <hyphenated> edc: launchpad.net
[01:37] <dsas> hyphenated: sorry yes you're right.
[01:38] <patbam> richiefrich: ok... so you think these instructions are a good place to start
[01:38] <Tesuki> sorry to interrupt. but how do I make a boot disc on windows for installation of ubuntu?
[01:38] <myavuzselim> is there a way to install dapper without live cd?
[01:38] <edc> ubutu websites are always slow to load
[01:38] <Frogzoo> QPAD|warlock: I'd try the AMD64 Dapper release, as it's mentioned this supports Xeon: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/6.06/
[01:38] <liquidindian> I'm trying to enable DMA on my hard drive using the guide in the wiki.  I'm getting a ' HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument' message.  Does that mean that I can't enable it on this drive?
[01:38] <Steve|> Tesuki: if its an iso use nero or somthign and burn as an image
[01:38] <richiefrich> patbam  i found this too -->   The version of alsa-driver in Debian and Ubuntu repos is not nearly new   1.0.8rc1   <-- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=47755
[01:38] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell myavuzselim about alternate
[01:38] <dsas> grasshopper: mv folder1 ../folder2 would move folder1 into the directory above and rename it to folder2
[01:39] <Steve|> Tesuki: then put the cd in your computer and when you restart, make sure you choose the cd as the first boot
[01:39] <dsas> myavuzselim: You need the alternate cd (same page as the desktop one)
[01:39] <patbam> richiefrich: i wonder if i should go ask around in #alsa as well
[01:39] <QPAD|warlock> Frogzoo, no no no... I installed dapper, that messed up my game-servers, so i need to reformate to get back to my old ubuntu version, and i remember that both of my procs didnt work on the clean installation
[01:39] <richiefrich> patbam yes ill tell u what i all installed --> alsa-lib alsa-driver alsa-oss alsa-utils
[01:39] <ic56> bigfoot1: find reports the complete pathname with respect to the starting point.  If you want the starting point to be the root, then cd there.  Here's the conventional way:  "(cd /; find <directory> -print)".  Omit the quotes but not the parentheses.
[01:39] <liquidindian> !dma
[01:39] <Frogzoo> liquidindian: that's a bit wierd - how old's the drive? did you try 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hd#' ?
[01:39] <Steve|> Fujitsu: hey is ss from before.. you told me to download http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to mount windows... when i go there its all in text.. i'm in windows right now so what extension would i put it in so i can install it on dapper?
[01:40] <c0nfidencal> where can i find if ubuntu supports modem usb adsl modem ale 130?
[01:40] <myavuzselim> I have to redownload, ah yes jigdo
[01:40] <Fujitsu> Steve|, doesn't matter about the extension.
[01:40] <Mulder_> hmmm well apparently the itnerface is sending out dhcpdiscover, but nothing's coming back .. sounds like cabling issues but maybe not :S
[01:40] <Frogzoo> QPAD|warlock: for breezy, same deal - for 64bit, you need the A64 release
[01:40] <richiefrich> patbam this is a gentoo wiki site but it's really well documented --> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix#Installing_alsa-driver  <-- it explains the kernel
[01:40] <Steve|> Fujitsu: ah ok thankyou
[01:40] <c0nfidencal> where can i find if ubuntu supports modem usb adsl modem ale 130?
[01:40] <QPAD|warlock> Frogzoo, When I install ubuntu from scratch, which version on the ubuntu page should i use the AMD64 release?
[01:40] <hyphenated> c0nfidencal: boot the live cd and plug it in? ;-)
[01:40] <Steve|> bbl
[01:40] <QPAD|warlock> I've read about it on ubuntuforums alittle bit.
[01:41] <c0nfidencal> :
[01:41] <c0nfidencal> Dok
[01:41] <QPAD|warlock> brb getting my smoke
[01:41] <Tesuki> the thing is I used Window burning thing and un zipt the ubuntu6.06-server.iso iso file and the cd isn't bootable so I need a disk
[01:41] <Hajuu> Need some serious advice... I installed Breezy's kernel into my otherwise hoary installation.. All is running fine, except I cant open anything in a terminal from within gdm/x.... wtf? Anyone got any ideas?
[01:41] <patbam> i have -lib and -util, -oss is currently uninstalled, and -driver doesn't come up in a search in synaptic
[01:41] <hyphenated> Tesuki: you don't unpack the ISO. you burn it as a "CD Image"
[01:41] <liquidindian> Frogzoo, I bought it new about 6 months ago.  If I do that, I get a /dev/sda1: message with nothing else.
[01:41] <Tesuki> dosn't work with window burn
[01:41] <Fujitsu> ubotu, tell Tesuki about iso
[01:42] <QPAD|warlock> back Frogzoo, any ideas of what SMP kernel is needed?
[01:42] <Fujitsu> Tesuki, read the message ubotu sent you.
[01:42] <Fujitsu> QPAD|warlock, the Ubuntu 6.06 kernels all have SMP inbuilt.
[01:42] <concept10> Fujitsu, how do you enable?
[01:42] <Tesuki> okey thank you
[01:42] <patbam> richiefrich: maybe i should just try installed alsa-oss
[01:42] <patbam> *installing
[01:43] <Fujitsu> concept10, enable what?
[01:43] <Frogzoo> liquidindian: which release are you installing?
[01:43] <concept10> Fujitsu, smp on stock kernels..
[01:43] <Fujitsu> concept10, it's built in. No enabling required.
[01:43] <liquidindian> Frogzoo, Dapper
[01:43] <Frogzoo> QPAD|warlock: A64 is for 64 bit cpus
[01:44] <richiefrich> patbam u can, but how is your kernel setup?  do u have alsa built-in or as modules
[01:44] <Fujitsu> concept10, although you may need the 686 or k7 kernels, rather than 386
[01:44] <sonium> does ubuntu not have a modprobe.conf oder modprobe.d file?
[01:44] <QPAD|warlock> Fujitsu, So AMD64 version of ubuntu is what I need to install ((I'm so sorry for asking same question again, Im out of time and I need todo a backup of 40gb and Intsall ubuntu/apache/Ftp etc from scratch within 3hours))
[01:44] <patbam> richiefrich: actually i'm not sure how to distinguish
[01:44] <QPAD|warlock> Then move on to my next server, which I need to configurate from scratch awell. Alot of work today, and I -need- to be done with it today.
[01:44] <richiefrich> patbam if there built-in then try as modules 1st then reboot and run alsaconf
[01:44] <concept10> Fujitsu, I only see one processor w/ cat /proc/cpuinfo, I have a p4 with HT
[01:44] <richiefrich> patbam  * = built-in  M = module
[01:44] <liquidindian> Frogzoo, unfortunately I can't find any info on the drive, or at least none that's not in japanese...
[01:44] <Fujitsu> QPAD|warlock, do you want to play patented multimedia? If not, go with AMD64.
[01:44] <QPAD|warlock> Frogzoo, cheers, so AMD64 version of ubuntu, not the x8. ?
[01:45] <Jemt> How can I Low-level format an external USB HDD ?
[01:45] <Fujitsu> concept10, make sure you install linux-686.
[01:45] <QPAD|warlock> No Fujitsu, I need to install ubuntu server
[01:45] <QPAD|warlock> Without graphical addons.
[01:45] <Fujitsu> QPAD|warlock, AMD64, if you have an Athlon 64.
[01:45] <edc> dsas, : uploaded the report, marked as security... if you know someone to poke to take a look at it, please do
[01:45] <ic56> Fujitsu: to answer your earlier question, I am unfamiliar with gedit but it appears primitive with respect to vi or emacs.  The specific issue with kimbaroth was how to make gedit ignore the absense of a write bit in a file's perms and try to write the file anyway -- which should work if you are root.  Do you know of a way to do that in gedit?
[01:45] <patbam> richiefrich: where would these *s and Ms be?
[01:45] <dsas> edc: The only people allowed to look at it is you and the packages security contact.
[01:46] <Fujitsu> ic56, no I don't. I use Vim :)
[01:46] <c0nfidencal> amd64.. bla bla bla? :| i386 is better, aint it? :D
[01:46] <Fujitsu> c0nfidencal, !?
[01:46] <patbam> Fujitsu: vim++ :)
[01:46] <ic56> kimbaroth: yeah, ok.  So why did you challenge me when I said gedit was primitive?
[01:46] <dsas> edc: If it doesn't have a security contact and it's in main then I think pitti is the "general security guy"
[01:46] <ucordes> amd turion 4ever
[01:46] <c0nfidencal> Fujitsu ...all saying that i386 is better, aint it?
[01:46] <ucordes> :P
[01:47] <richiefrich> patbam in the kernel -->  cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig
[01:47] <sentinel> i am trying to install the 6.06 version on my AMD64 Athlon, the live system works fine and boots and the installer starts too, while the message "configuring apt" appears the installer seems to be freezing after a while the system says "installer crashed" any ideas ?
[01:47] <Frogzoo> liquidindian: seems like hdparm doesn't support sata & DMA is probably already enabled on the drive, so no need to enable it
[01:47] <utab> I have a Wine problem is anyone interested
[01:47] <patbam> richiefrich: ok just a sec
[01:47] <edc> well i call it a feature, lol
[01:47] <liquidindian> Frogzoo, Oh, okay :)
[01:47] <utab> is there a Wine geek
[01:47] <Frogzoo> Fujitsu: apparently A64 also supports xeon (64bit)
[01:47] <liquidindian> Frogzoo, sata?
[01:47] <patbam> richiefrich: i don't have a /usr/src/linux, heh
[01:48] <zachhale-pc> i'm having difficulty running debootstrap via knoppix trying to install ubuntu
[01:48] <richiefrich> patbam ahh then idk about the ubuntu kernel.. i install my own
[01:48] <ic56> c0nfidencal: why stop at i386?  Go back to our roots!  Run minix on 8086!
[01:48] <zachhale-pc> i'm getting a permission denied, any help?
[01:48] <Fujitsu> Frogzoo, yes, it does.
[01:48] <c0nfidencal> ic56: o.O?
[01:48] <patbam> richiefrich: ah, thou art leeter than i :)
[01:48] <richiefrich> patbam i get a vanailla kernel from kernel.org  ...
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> zachhale-pc: Did you manually install the dapper debootstrap deb ?
[01:48] <ic56> c0nfidencal: 8-D
[01:48] <c0nfidencal> ^^
[01:48] <Frogzoo> QPAD|warlock: so there you go, as Fujitsu says, A64 will support you Xeons
[01:49] <richiefrich> patbam no i just like vanialla ones
[01:49] <QPAD|warlock> Fujitsu, I have intel xeon's (x2 3.0 64bits) - I need to know exactly what version to use.
[01:49] <QPAD|warlock> Ah
[01:49] <QPAD|warlock> I thank you Frogzoo, and Fujitsu.
[01:49] <zachhale-pc> h3sp4wn: yes, following: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix
[01:49] <ic56> Fujitsu: yeah, ok.   Just not as feature-rich as Vim and co.
[01:50] <richiefrich> patbam im sure there is.. let me google and see how to edit the ubuntu kerenl
[01:50] <Mourner> Hi there. I have a problem installing ubuntu - the installer crashes while processing language packs with the following error: File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/debconf.py", line 81, in command
[01:50] <Mourner>     status = int(status)
[01:50] <Mourner> ValueError: invalid literal for int():
[01:50] <ic56> Fujitsu: what *is* primitive, if gedit isn't?
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> zachhale-pc: use this version of debootstrap http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2_all.deb (knoppix can install deb's right ?
[01:50] <Fujitsu> ic56, notepad.
[01:50] <Frogzoo> patbam: cat /proc/modules |grep alsa
[01:50] <QPAD|warlock> Frogzoo, will you be on in around 2hours?
[01:51] <Hajuu> Need some serious advice... I installed Breezy's kernel into my otherwise hoary installation.. All is running fine, except I cant open anything in a terminal from within gdm/x.... wtf? Anyone got any ideas?
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> zachhale-pc: debootstrap only depends on sh (so it will be ok)
[01:51] <Mourner> Anyone?
[01:51] <Frogzoo> QPAD|warlock: nope - I'm out of here directly...
[01:51] <zachhale-pc> h3sp4wn: ok i'll try that
[01:51] <patbam> Frogzoo: thanks. that came up empty
[01:51] <rnix> hi, yesterday i installed dapper drake. since then i get a message at boot time - dosfscheck 2.11 fat32, lfn there are differences between boot sector and its backup. both my systems (ubuntu, wxp) boot well. how can i fix this?
[01:51] <sentinel> as i thought so no one has any idea thx anyway
[01:51] <QPAD|warlock> Frogzoo, ack. You got msn or something perhaps I could catch you on later?
[01:52] <c0nfidencal> hey mates, where can i find this place @ ubuntu? http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2443/dude0yt.jpg <--- its @ networking?
[01:52] <cavediver> Noone with some snmp-skills ?
[01:53] <cavediver> That can magically get me some more mibs :)
[01:53] <ic56> Fujitsu: ah, I see.  gedit supports syntax highlighting and stuff.  Ok, your point makes sense.
[01:53] <sambrista> Hi! I've got 2 mp3 players, when i plug the older one, gnome recognises it as an mp3 player so it displays my mp3 an ipod like icon and appears in rythmbox. When i plug the second one (with card reader integrated) gnome recognises it as a simple usb memory (both the flash memory and the SD card) so it doesn't appear in rythmbox. Anyone knows how can i fix this??
[01:53] <Fujitsu> ic56, and tab, etc.
[01:53] <QPAD|warlock> Frogzoo, if you do could you add<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I might need one or two advices from you later regarding ubuntu when im in the server hall sorting the servers out. Highly appriciated, This goes to everyone with ubuntu server experience.
[01:53] <richiefrich> patbam i know download the kernel-source in apt-get
[01:53] <QPAD|warlock> Gotta run now, As I'm late already