[09:39] <Symmetria> jonathaN err  dont run gigE in that box for most things :)
[09:39] <Symmetria> run 10gE
[09:39] <Symmetria> ixgbe card
[09:39] <JonathanD> does it offer CPU monitoring?
[09:39] <JonathanD> whats the bottleneck?
[09:39] <fatedkiss> Ziroday, might still be hope, i just need to get tot he link i was at
[09:39] <Ziroday> fatedkiss: aha
[09:39] <Symmetria> jonathaN bottleneck is the sas controllers, they are limited to 3gigabit per controller, 2 controlloers into the array
[09:40] <JonathanD> cause you take something like a midrange nseries, and you can saturate multiple GBe adapters.
[09:40] <Symmetria> heh that and the physical disk speed :)
[09:40] <JonathanD> Symmetria: I'm talking about on the iscsi box.
[09:40] <fatedkiss> voltagex, can you repost that link for me by anychance?
[09:40] <voltagex> fatedkiss: afk, 5mins
[09:40] <cheaziz> i am back folks
[09:41] <voltagex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[09:41] <JonathanD> Symmetria: like the IBM DS3000 series, they're sas backed, but iscsi, sas, or FC frontend
[09:41] <Symmetria> JonathanD Im not actually sure, I want to strip those boxes down, rip out the flash drive in them, put ubuntu on them, put software raid on them, and then turn them into NFS systems
[09:41] <Symmetria> :p
[09:41] <cheaziz> i got the external NFTS drive (which has two partitions) to work, after mounting and unmounting it on a Win box...
[09:41] <Symmetria> I have a feeling that the operating system on those iSCSI san's is its bottleneck
[09:41] <JonathanD> Symmetria: ahh :P
[09:41] <cheaziz> now, how do I import Adobe Illustrator (.AI) (Windows) files using Inkscape?
[09:42] <Peng> Think Ubuntu would let me get away with swapping PS/2 keyboards?
[09:42] <JonathanD> Symmetria: I really like iscsi, just not as an end all be all solution.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> fire up inkscape see if it can load it?
[09:42] <cheaziz> inkscape loads up ok
[09:42] <pawan> hi
[09:42] <pawan> wanted virtua girl for ubuntu
[09:42] <Dr_willis> I recall some other vector editor program for linux and windows both - BUt it wasent gpl. I forget its name. :(
[09:42] <JonathanD> I'd like to see more combo iscsi/fc hardware.
[09:42] <Symmetria> jonathaN iSCSI works for mass storage etc, it just doesnt work imho as a very high speed solution for load intensive systems
[09:42] <travisat> Peng: it isn't ubuntu you need to be worried about, you really shouldn't be pulling out ps/2 stuff with the computer on
[09:43] <Symmetria> jonathaN I'd rather go external SAS than almost anything, external SAS is faster than FC as well
[09:43] <JonathanD> with both interfaces on the storage controller, to give you flexability for inexpensive stuff.
[09:43] <JonathanD> Symmetria: SAS is a slower interface.
[09:43] <rama_8086> how can i create a multisession disk in ubuntu
[09:43] <cheaziz> drwillis: does xara LX translate .AI files?
[09:43] <Symmetria> and with the powervault you can throw in SATA disks
[09:43] <Symmetria> errr no, its not
[09:43] <JonathanD> with the same speed disks, it wont be any faster.
[09:43] <Symmetria> FC = 2gigabit
[09:43] <Symmetria> SAS = 3gigabit
[09:43] <voltagex> Symmetria: It'd work just fine for my MP3 collection^H^H^H^H^Hcommercial multimedia productions
[09:44] <JonathanD> Symmetria: old FC = 2gb
[09:44] <JonathanD> current would be 4, or more.
[09:44] <JonathanD> I haven't installed a new piece of FC equipment < 4Gb in over a year.
[09:44] <pawan> hello
[09:44] <Peng> travisat: Really? Hmph, ok. Perhaps it's time for me to start using USB?
[09:45] <Symmetria> JonathanD fair enough, other thing though about FC, are there any *fast* FC array boxes which take SATA disks in them?
[09:45] <Symmetria> (my SAS arrays are filled with large SATA disks)
[09:45] <JonathanD> Symmetria: DS4000
[09:45] <s1n> hello there
[09:45] <Symmetria> JonathanD pricey or not really?
[09:45] <JonathanD> DS3000, although it's FC frontend/Sas backend.
[09:46] <Peng> travisat: What happens if I do pull 'em out? Frying? Explosions?
[09:46] <Symmetria> thats an IBM box right?
[09:46] <voltagex> what on earth? What would cause a clock skew on a compile?
[09:46] <JonathanD> Symmetria: the DS4000 is up there, it's still midrange though.
[09:46] <JonathanD> DS3000 is pretty affordable.
[09:46] <JonathanD> as SANs go.
[09:46] <JonathanD> both are IBM boxes.
[09:46] <travisat> Peng: most likely nothing, but there is a very small chance you could short something
[09:46] <fatedkiss> well cntrl+b bring up bookmarks but there gone anyways
[09:47] <rama_8086> how can i create a multisession CD when i am writing the data
[09:47] <Symmetria> JonathanD you seen the md1000 powervault?
[09:47] <s1n> i installed ubuntu linux yet. but it doesnt see me as a root, so it doesnt show me new updates. what can i do ?
[09:47] <travisat> Peng: oh and there is no reason to use usb as of yet
[09:47] <JonathanD> Symmetria: no. but I admit I have an IBM bias.
[09:48]  * Symmetria notes that IBM is probably not going to give him great pricing :p they arent very happy with me
[09:48] <scraga1> hey, I'm using GTK with C, yet it throws errors that it cannot find gtk/gtk.h -- what path should I use instead?
[09:48] <Peng> travisat: I think I unplugged my keyboard and mouse once for some reason. Nothing was damaged, but the computer stopped recognizing them and I had to hard reset or something. Whoops.
[09:48] <Symmetria> infact I think our local IBM office probably hates my guts right now :p
[09:48] <Peng> travisat: Wouldn't USB let me have two plugged in at one time?
[09:48] <JonathanD> Symmetria: go through a BP then :p
[09:48] <JonathanD> Symmetria: where you at?
[09:48] <Symmetria> heh JonathanD in .za
[09:48] <travisat> Peng: yah and you can have a usb and a ps/2 plugged in at the same time too
[09:48] <BetaTest> How do I go about changing the screen saver?
[09:48] <Symmetria> they are a little sore cause I awarded an 18 million dollar tender to someone else :p
[09:49] <JonathanD> Symmetria: :)
[09:49] <HardDisk> Better than losing 7 billion $
[09:49] <JonathanD> storage or otherwise, Symmetria?
[09:49] <Symmetria> JonathanD networking (cisco kit)
[09:49] <Peng> travisat: My mouse is USB and I use the PS/2 adapter that came with it, but neither of the keyboards are USB. Hm.
[09:49] <Symmetria> ibm = second largest cisco partner in the world if I remeber correctly
[09:50] <JonathanD> Symmetria: likely be totally different sales folks if you went to them for storage.
[09:50] <Peng> travisat: Anyway, thanks for the help.
[09:50] <JonathanD> Symmetria: yeah, they're huge cisco vendor. I think they sell more than cisco does.
[09:50]  * Symmetria is waiting on 5 tons of cisco kit to arrive
[09:50] <JonathanD> same with netapp.
[09:50] <HardDisk> Any updates on the 7b$ scandal btw?
[09:50] <Symmetria> JonathanD errr thats because cisco doesnt sell direct, to anyone :p
[09:51] <fatedkiss> voltagex, can you repost the link you gave me earlier by anychance?
[09:52] <JonathanD> Symmetria: I just did a fake DS3400 config
[09:52] <JonathanD> dual FC controller with 9TB of disk, about 20K :p
[09:52] <s1n> hello there. i installed ubuntu linux yet. but it doesnt see me as a root, so it doesnt show me new updates. what can i do ?
[09:52] <JonathanD> (4Gbit FC)
[09:52] <pawan> nero for ubuntu
[09:53] <Symmetria> jonathaNd thats more than double the powervault price
[09:53] <Symmetria> :p
[09:54] <Ordius> hi I was wondering if there is a fix to hibernate not working with nVidia?
[09:54] <JonathanD> Symmetria: the powevault is single host?
[09:54] <JonathanD> or a SAN?
[09:54] <Symmetria> jonathaN stackable SAN
[09:54] <voltagex> A/j #mythtv-dev
[09:54] <JonathanD> the description is weird :p
[09:54] <voltagex> wtf
[09:54] <Symmetria> 6gigabit (has 2 x 3gigabit SAS controllers)
[09:55] <pawan> hello
[09:55] <JonathanD> Symmetria: that was for a 4 x 4 Gbit FC controller.
[09:55] <JonathanD> 2 dual port controller.
[09:56] <fatedkiss> Ziroday, definatly gunna have to reinstall ubuntu again
[09:56] <fatedkiss> firefox is dead
[09:56] <DarkW0lf> whenever I hibernate ubuntu and resume it, it crashes back to the login screen
[09:56] <voltagex> fatedkiss: if you're going to do that, I'd suggest the 32bit version unless you have a specific reason to use 64bit
[09:56] <DarkW0lf> does anybody know if there's a solution to the problem?
[09:57] <filthpig> DarkW0lf, use Suspend
[09:57] <fatedkiss> voltagex, i probably will..just have to redownload the iso for it
[09:57] <JonathanD> Symmetria: you can price stuff yourself : http://www-304.ibm.com/jct01004c/systems/support/supportsite.wss/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-62168&brandind=5000008
[09:57] <DarkW0lf> filthpig: suspend doesnt work either as far as I know
[09:57] <DarkW0lf> not sure why either
[09:57] <fatedkiss> voltagex, i dont really got much choice at this time. i think ive caused almost every problem i can with ubuntu
[09:57] <JonathanD> it is, however, a windows tool
[09:57] <DarkW0lf> I guess I'll have to look through my logs
[09:58] <filthpig> laptop or desktop?
[09:58] <arnath> i have a movie encoded with the "cook" codec (which i have installed in /usr/lib/win32), totem will not play the audio, vlc will not even play the video for some reason, but Kino can play both
[09:58] <fatedkiss> voltagex, im probably gunna try get at least 4 hrs of sleep right now thou
[09:58] <arnath> anyone know any reason/solution?
[09:58] <johnguyen> guys.
[09:58] <johnguyen> http://en.naughtyholiday.com/?id=b6bf576f7f3fa6248084c9e9abb8b5c3
[09:59] <fatedkiss> thanks everyone see ya again
[09:59] <BetaTest> How do I go about changing the screen saver?
[09:59] <DarkW0lf> johnguyen: don't spam in here
[09:59] <travisat> arnath: it is how the programs check for codecs, totem and kine are not using the same subsystem and vlc has its own
[10:00]  * peabody is sad
[10:00] <arnath> travisat: is there a player that uses the same as kine?
[10:00] <voltagex> BetaTest: System > Preferences > Screensaver
[10:00] <voltagex> any admins here?
[10:00] <peabody> admins?
[10:00] <travisat> arnath: you might try mplayer
[10:01] <voltagex> peabody: that link johnguyen sent is obviously spam
[10:01] <arnath> travisat: that gives an error "error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"
[10:01] <BetaTest> Thank you voltagex
[10:01] <seboo> How can I set true permissions for my own home folder ?
[10:02] <peabody> ah, gotcha
[10:03] <travisat> arnath: are you sure you installed the codec correctly?
[10:03] <arnath> travisat: i installed the w32codecs
[10:03] <arnath> travisat: and have been happily playing many different video's
[10:04] <arnath> travisat: (mostly with totem)
[10:04] <travisat> arnath: ah well I think the problem is its just an obscure codec
[10:04] <peabody> So I'm trying to create a desktop file for a program I made, autokey.desktop, so the application can show up in the menu.
[10:04] <peabody> Trouble is, no matter what I do about the category section, it always ends up in the "Other" category
[10:05] <arnath> travisat: have any idea what i can do? i thought about loading it into kino and reencoding the audio stream (not sure if kino can do that)
[10:05] <peabody> Nobody here would have any ideas would they?
[10:05] <arnath> travisat: but it's so massive to load an entire movie into kino it seems, after like 10 minutes of loading, it was only at minute 15
[10:05] <nymtar> hi there.. i have following problem: started a week ago.. booting of windows xp not possible because after the bootscreen (win) there is a bluescreen for a split of a second and then the machine restarts.. ubuntu works fine though
[10:05] <travisat> arnath: no sorry I don't know enough about your codec
[10:05] <arnath> travisat: ok, know of a tool that could recode audio streams of a movie?
[10:06] <ikonia> nymtar: you'll be better joining ##windows to raise that error
[10:06] <peabody> nymtar: Not sure if anyone here can help you since it seems to be a windows related problem, have you tried booting into recovery mode from the CD?
[10:06] <travisat> arnath: not on linux :(
[10:06] <pawan> hi
[10:06] <arnath> travisat: aw :<
[10:06] <nymtar> ikonia, i am there already
[10:06] <ikonia> nymtar: great
[10:06] <travisat> arnath: there probably is one, but I only know about the windows side of movie encoding
[10:07] <arnath> travisat: ah, will see if my good pal google can help me out then :P
[10:07] <travisat> arnath: good luck
[10:07] <nymtar> peabody, will try this, but i think the problem lies within ubuntu, because the problem from one day to another
[10:07] <arnath> travisat: thanks :)
[10:07] <peabody> nymtar: were you able to boot windows after you installed ubuntu?
[10:07] <nymtar> +came ^^
[10:07] <ikonia> nymtar: the problem does not have anything to do with ubuntu
[10:07] <nymtar> peabody, yes, countless times
[10:08] <ikonia> nymtar: ubuntu cannot effect your windows partition. The most likley think is that your disk partitioning/resizing has caused some corruption on the windows file system that can be fixed using windows techniques
[10:08] <peabody> nymtar: unless you tried to mount your windows partition so you could write to it under ubuntu, ubuntu shouldn't have done anything to your windows partition
[10:08] <filthpig> I have problems converting flac to mp3 with SoundConverter, I've tried all modes
[10:08] <nymtar> i used ubuntu like 3 days straight without using winxp .. then tried xp -> bluescreen
[10:08] <ikonia> nymtar: get the guys in ##windows to help you debug the bluescreen error
[10:09] <peabody> nymtar: Like I said, unless you did something in Ubuntu to try and read your windows partition, it's not Ubuntu's fault.
[10:09] <nymtar> hm
[10:09] <peabody> Ubuntu wouldn't do that by default.
[10:10] <peabody> nymtar: you really should try to boot your XP CD and hit the recovery console to see if there's anything you can do.  Did you try safe mode?
[10:10] <Dr_willis> ubuntu tries to be a well behaved child. :P
[10:10] <Bruum> witch drivers are best for ATI Radeon card???
[10:11] <travisat> filthpig: flac -d foo.flac, make the wave then use lame to rencode as mp3
[10:11] <peabody> Bruum: depends on which model radeon
[10:11] <Bruum> 1900PRO
[10:11] <peabody> 9100Pro?
[10:12] <peabody> Bruum: If it's a fairly current model, then from my understanding it's good to try the proprietary drivers
[10:12] <Bruum> Sapphire Radeon X1950PRO 256MB GDDR3,
[10:12] <michu> hi I have a problem withe "american's army". I write in console "armyops" but i get only it"$ armyops
[10:12] <michu> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:12] <michu> Cheat protection disabled
[10:12] <michu> WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[10:12] <michu> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[10:12] <michu> History:
[10:12] <FloodBot3> michu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:13] <peabody> Bruum: If it's an older radeon, it's best to use the open source drivers, which should be the default in Ubuntu
[10:13] <filthpig> travisat, so I cant go directly from flac?
[10:13] <nc> hi all, how do I open the ports?
[10:13] <travisat> filthpig: no
[10:13] <peabody> nc: open what ports?
[10:13] <cbc1014> hey
[10:13] <travisat> filthpig: you can try flac -d *.flac | lame -h -
[10:13] <Bruum> peabody : its about 1 year...
[10:13] <travisat> for a full directory of flac
[10:14] <ikonia> nc: unless you are running a firewall (not enabled by default) your ports are alreayd open
[10:14] <peabody> Bruum: Sounds new enough to me that you'll want to use the fglrx drivers
[10:14] <cbc1014> is
[10:14] <michu> i install drivers withe envy
[10:14] <cbc1014> without
[10:14] <cbc1014> *
[10:14] <Bruum> okay.. were do i find that driver peadbody?
[10:14] <s1n> hello there. i installed ubuntu linux yet. but it doesnt see me as a root, so it doesnt show me new updates. what can i do ?
[10:15] <cbc1014> !enter
[10:15] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:15] <Dr_willis> !envy
[10:15] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported.  I'm having some problems with installing mythtv on my computer. I have been following the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop mythtv guide and have launched mythtv setup, but upon doing so have encountered "incorrect group membership" window and am confused
[10:19] <michu> what i must to do ??
[10:19] <us> can anyone helP?
[10:19] <ompaul> daya, you will need to explore other options yourself
[10:19] <ArthurArchnix> What's the command to get ubotu to pm me some info... "!flash > ArthurA" didn't seem to work.
[10:19] <filthpig> travisat, sorry I'm not too good with command lines, but I need to copy everything over to a new folder, like from ~/Music/foo to ~/Mp3 Music/foo
[10:19] <daya> ompaul, hmm,
[10:19] <Seveas> michu, try to undo whatever mess envy created and install the driver properly
[10:19] <us> It says "You must be a member of the "mythtv" group before starting any mythtv applications.
[10:19] <us> Would you like to automatically be added to the group?
[10:19] <us> (Note: sudo access required)"
[10:20] <travisat> filthpig: if you google you will probably find a solution
[10:20] <Seveas> you probably won't get support here until you do that :)
[10:20] <peabody> Nobody finds a programmer's toil worthwhile?  *sniff* *sniff*
[10:20] <Seveas> us, sudo adduser your_username_here mythtv
[10:20] <Seveas> us, then logout and log back in
[10:20] <Dr_willis> us - so tell it yes? :)
[10:20] <travisat> filthpig: you might try audio-convert
[10:20] <michu> i do it i uinstall envy drivers but i have too have problem
[10:20] <ArthurArchnix> !flash
[10:20] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:20] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:20] <us> ok i'll try it - thanks
[10:21] <ArthurArchnix> I'm confused. Is flash broken or not... or is that message saying that the broken packages are now available in the backports.
[10:21] <Seveas> ArthurArchnix, I think the factoid is outdated
[10:21] <us> Seveas, it says i'm already a member of the group
[10:21] <us> i'll try clicking yes
[10:22] <Seveas> us, log out and log back in
[10:22] <Seveas> that should help
[10:22] <Dr_willis> THeres a deb package i use - in the 2nd factoid. it works for firefox. but not konqueror
[10:22] <Seveas> !forget flash-also
[10:22] <ubotu> I'll forget that, Seveas
[10:22] <zetheroo> is there a way that 2 users can share the same home folder?
[10:22] <Seveas> zetheroo, no
[10:23] <Dr_willis> zetheroo,   what are you really wanting to shre?
[10:23] <zetheroo> thats not nice
[10:23] <Dr_willis> share.
[10:23] <zetheroo> hehe
[10:23] <Dr_willis> set the perms. on whtever ya want to let others read/access them
[10:24] <zetheroo> I want to make a user for Elisa to work in which will not have Compiz enabled by default.... but I don't want to have to copy all my media over to another users home folder
[10:24] <bRoseph_Stalin> help http://en.naughtyholiday.com/?id=ccd96c2a9da025e729843fc43b9bfec8
[10:24] <ArthurArchnix> Seveas: I can't tell from the links ubotu gives. I'm just gonna try and install from the repos and we'll see I guess.
[10:24] <Dr_willis> zetheroo,  just set up the perms to allow access to the files. and link the dirs/files to the other users homedir.
[10:25] <zetheroo> Dr_willis:  how do you change the permissions to make that happen?
[10:25] <Dr_willis> chmod command,
[10:25] <Dr_willis> what mode to use depends on what you want to allow.
[10:26] <zetheroo> Dr_willis: can I do it graphically with gksudo nautilus?
[10:26] <Dr_willis> zetheroo,  no idea. its easier to just use chmod. :)
[10:26] <Seveas> zetheroo, yes, but that's scary :)
[10:26] <Dr_willis> you dont need to set your USERS file permissions with sudo
[10:26] <zetheroo> Seveas: why?
[10:26] <zetheroo> I dunno the chmod commands
[10:27] <Dr_willis> time to learn them  I think. :)
[10:27] <Dr_willis> you could set the permissions on the users files with Nautilus if you want. No need to use the gksudo
[10:27] <un0p> zetheroo, it works with nautilus - but you have to be very careful
[10:28] <family> hey im back again im trying to find out how set up http hosting
[10:28] <family> with linux i know i need to forward http but what software might we have for this
[10:28] <zetheroo> un0p: I am gksudo nautilus and I have gone into the properties of the folder I want to share with the other user
[10:28] <Seveas> !lamp | family
[10:28] <ubotu> family: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:29] <zetheroo> un0p: what shoudl I change to allow it?
[10:29] <Dr_willis> zetheroo,  if your user is setting the permissions for their own files. You do not need to use gksudo.
[10:29] <family> thank you seveas
[10:29] <ompaul> zetheroo, if Seveas advises something is "scarey" then my advise is "don't"
[10:29] <Dr_willis> zetheroo,  also the permissions for all the directories in the path to your shared directory need allow the other users in.
[10:29] <un0p> zetheroo, you'll have to setup a group that you and the other person are members of, and then give that group permissions over that folder
[10:29] <augustao> hey
[10:29] <Seveas> ompaul, humbug -- I'm easily scared :)
[10:29] <augustao> have you guys heard of buck angel?
[10:30] <ompaul> Seveas, ehhhhhhhhh liar
[10:30] <Dr_willis> groups is another way like un0p  said. But i rarely mess with groups for  my 2 user systems. :)
[10:30] <zetheroo> un0p: ok so I need to make a new group
[10:30] <Seveas> augustao, this is a support channel, not a social channel
[10:30] <ArthurArchnix> seveas nope. Flash still busted.
[10:30] <augustao> wut
[10:30] <Seveas> ArthurArchnix, k
[10:30] <un0p> zetheroo, firstly yes
[10:30] <Seveas> !unforget flash-also
[10:30] <ubotu> I suddenly remember flash-also again, Seveas
[10:30] <zetheroo> Dr_willis: I also have only 2 users
[10:31] <Dr_willis> zetheroo,  then chmod ### /home/firstuser/DirsYouWanttoShare  to allow the 2nd user full access to them.
[10:31] <chazco> How difficult is it to merge my apt archive with the liveCD? Would like to avoid the massive update download every time I install
[10:31] <Dr_willis> ### will depend on wha tyou want to allow them to do.
[10:31] <un0p> chazco, your apt archive might not fit onto a live CD eh
[10:31] <travisat> !aptoncd
[10:32] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[10:32] <travisat> close as you might get
[10:32] <Dr_willis> zetheroo,  full access = 666 for files and 777 for dirs - I belive
[10:32] <chazco> Hmm... aptoncd sounds similar to what i've done so far (memory stick)... I'd hope it might fit on the livecd since most packages are replaced, not duplicated...
[10:32] <ffiarpg> I used the instructions on this website (http://lifehacker.com/software/how-to/set-up-vnc-on-ubuntu-in-four-steps-317125.php) to setup VNC so I could access my linux computer with my windows computer. Can anyone forsee any reason that the connection would be so slow over a home network? I get better speeds remote accessing my windows computer over my cable internet connection.
[10:32] <bjames> can someone tell me if there is a way to increase mouse sensitivity beyond that available via the GUI (i.e. is there a multiplier value in my xort.conf file somewhere)?
[10:33] <zetheroo> un0p: ok I created a group called media and added both users....
[10:33] <un0p> bjames, check - man xset
[10:33] <bjames> un0p: cheers
[10:33] <un0p> zetheroo, ok, now give media permissions over that folder
[10:33] <pewpewpew> whow. Screen Resolutions.. I shut my computer down yesterday and it was running on 1600x1200 since i set ubuntu up - today, suddenly... 1024x800 is the highest possible (and used)
[10:33] <travisat> chazco: you might look at http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/
[10:33] <zetheroo> Dr_willis: which user shoudl I be logged into?
[10:34] <Dr_willis> zetheroo,  the one who owns the files.
[10:34] <chazco> travisat - Looks interesting... even if i can make a livecd I could possible do an alternate one (GUI isnt too important)
[10:35] <Dr_willis> since the OTHER user cant change the  first users permissions.
[10:35] <travisat> chazco: I have no idea, just bored and was on google
[10:35] <chazco> heh :)
[10:36] <zetheroo>  Dr_willis: ok ... well if this group method does not work I will try your method
[10:36] <un0p> Dr_willis, i think he'd need to be root - dont think his $USER can chgrp of another folder
[10:36] <odysseas> When installing tvtime it creates .tvtime folders for the normal users but with root as owner and group, should I report that as a bug?
[10:36] <travisat> chazco: the only problem is after a week or so your new cd would be out of date and you would have to update a lot anyway, less then you would, but still a bit
[10:36] <Dr_willis> un0p,  hes not messing with the group. just the permissions.
[10:37] <un0p> Dr_willis, if you are following, he seems to be going the group route
[10:37] <chazco> travisat - Even a bit better would do... currently I have to download ~200MB of updates each time... in the UK thats a lot :(
[10:37] <Dr_willis> groups is proberly the more 'secure' of the way of doing this. :)
[10:37] <Dr_willis> but i never use groups this way. so good luck
[10:37] <travisat> chazco: I suggest the aptoncd then you can put all you want on cds and update off of cds once ubuntu is installed
[10:37] <travisat> much easier and probably better too
[10:38] <DanHerg> Cool Dating Club site [10:38] <chazco> travisat - Yep, doing similar currently with a USB copy+paste approach (simple, but it works)... was just hoping to eliminate the extra stage
[10:38] <un0p> Dr_willis, in my experience groups work best in these situations - that way either user can have complete access over the directory's contents
[10:38] <Dr_willis> DanHerg,  and we care why?
[10:38] <travisat> chazco: well it still beats downloading the stuff if you got a slow net connection
[10:39] <chazco> Its not slow as such... but the UK has (usually) download caps... e.g. 10GB a month
[10:39] <un0p> chazco, get a "real" isp :)
[10:39] <chazco> un0p - Almost all UK ISP's are like that
[10:40] <Seveas> chazco, move to a "real" country :p
[10:40] <chazco> :)
[10:40] <un0p> chazco, mine ain't tho -- and if i ever were to subscribe to another's services, i'd ensure i had unlimited access -- 10GB isnt enough a day, let alone a month
[10:40] <chazco> un0p - Country and ISP?
[10:41] <un0p> chazco, uk, virgin media (used to be blueyonder/telewest)
[10:41] <chazco> Ah cable... cable isnt available for most of the UK
[10:42] <un0p> chazco, errm, it's available in most towns and cities -- but even with DSL, plenty of ISPs willing to give you unlimited access
[10:42] <chazco> un0p - It isnt, you'd really be surprised :) And very few DSL subscribers offer anything near unlimited (check out their FUPs as well)... anyway, bit off topic :)
[10:43] <un0p> chazco, if you're willing to look for the ones that have uncapped services, you'll find them easy enough - but yea, this is getting !ot
[10:44] <ffiarpg> : I used the instructions on this website (http://lifehacker.com/software/how-to/set-up-vnc-on-ubuntu-in-four-steps-317125.php) to setup VNC so I could access my linux computer with my windows computer. Can anyone forsee any reason that the connection would be so slow over a home network? I get better speeds remote accessing my windows computer over my cable internet connection.
[10:44] <Seveas> ffiarpg, vnc is a rather slow pig compared to rdp
[10:45] <ffiarpg> seveas, can i run a program on linux to connect to my linux machine on my windows machine using remote desktop connection?
[10:47] <IndyGunFreak> isn't that what putty does?
[10:47] <zootm> I think he/she wants to connect to a Linux machine using RDP
[10:47] <ikonia> ffiarpg: you need an X server remote connection
[10:47] <zootm> apparently this does it but I don't think it's finished: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xrdp
[10:48] <un0p> ffiarpg, there are quite a few terminal servers for linux -- xrdp, ltsp which should work with windows (how well i dunno)
[10:49] <Symmetria> heh this could be interesting, I did a make clean && time make -j30
[10:49] <Symmetria> will be interesting to see hwo long it takes
[10:49] <Symmetria> (on my kernel)
[10:49] <un0p> ffiarpg,  http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=112022
[10:49] <odysseas> ffiarpg: I've always used tightvnc and never had speed problems (lan)
[10:49] <xalanthyr> hello, can somebody tell me how to mount an iso image using terminal?
[10:50] <ffiarpg> thanks everyone, ill read up on all the suggestions you've given
[10:50] <odysseas> xalanthyr: mount -t iso9660 /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint I think
[10:50] <un0p> + -o loop
[10:52] <xalanthyr> it says: "mount: Not a directory"...
[10:52] <un0p> xalanthyr, make sure /path/to/mountpoint exists first - mkdir /path/to/mountpoint
[10:53] <travisat> and don't forget the -o loop
[10:53] <un0p> xalanthyr, then - mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[10:53] <travisat> mount -t iso9600 -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[10:54] <JustV> hello
[10:54] <pricci62> ciao ragazzi, sono nuova... mi potete suggerire il peer to peer più usato (e veloce) per <ubuntu? grazie a tutti
[10:54] <upsignal> hello, can anyone help? i don't understand the PNG file generated by bootchart
[10:55] <VRAG> amule is good for you pricci62
[10:55] <travisat> !italian
[10:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:55] <xalanthyr> it still says "mount: Not a directory"...
[10:55] <pricci62> ok, grazie, ciao
[10:55] <JustV> how i can run 'java -jar myscript.jar' with screen ('screen -A -m -d -S java -jar myscript.jar' doesnt works :/)? Sorry for my bad english..
[10:55] <jqk> !italian | pricci62
[10:55] <ubotu> pricci62: please see above
[10:55] <xalanthyr> the target directory exists - i checked it in nautilus
[10:57] <rootborn> http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[10:57] <larum> hi!
[10:57] <larum> i've buy an Atheros pcmcia card.
[10:57] <un0p> xalanthyr, did you add the -o loop option ?
[10:58] <xalanthyr> yes i did
[10:58] <larum> when u put card on pcmcia slot is recognized good...
[10:58] <larum> but .... when i try to connect with na AP WPA-PSK protected dont work...
[10:58] <matt__> help me
[10:59] <matt__> i have a problem
[10:59] <larum> if i open my AP or put a WEP key it work ..
[10:59] <matt__> there's noboby listening?
[10:59] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | matt__
[10:59] <ubotu> matt__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[11:00] <un0p> xalanthyr, hmm -- are you sure you are using complete filenames ?   what does this command report?  file /path/to/mountpoint
[11:00] <JustV> how i can run 'java -jar myscript.jar' with screen ('screen -A -m -d -S java -jar myscript.jar' doesnt works :/)? Sorry for my bad english..
[11:00] <larum> anyone can help me?
[11:01] <monsoon_king> hi
[11:01] <monsoon_king> :)
[11:04] <IndyGunFreak> matt__: so did you have a question or ddi you just want to whine, or what?
[11:05] <matt__> yes, i'm sorry
[11:05] <matt__> i'm italian on the first time on chat irc
[11:05] <matt__> ..
[11:05] <matt__> I can't make audio cd with ubuntu
[11:05] <un0p> JustV, -S needs an option
[11:06] <IndyGunFreak> what progam did you try?
[11:06] <matt__> ohh
[11:06] <matt__> banshee for exemple
[11:06] <matt__> or serpentine
[11:07] <matt__> I can't convert mp3 to wave too
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, serpentine has worked for me in the past/
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> why would you want to?
[11:07] <matt__> I need to make a audio cd 4 my girl
[11:08] <matt__> !!
[11:08] <JustV> un0p: thank you very much
[11:08] <JustV> :)
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> matt__: sorry, don't really know the answer, i've never had probs w/ Serpentine... have you tried k3b?
[11:09] <monsoon_king> is there any sony ericsson mobile software for ubuntu???
[11:10] <MenZa> monsoon_king: possibly gammu or cobex.
[11:10] <MenZa> !info gammu | monsoon_king
[11:10] <ubotu> monsoon_king: gammu (source: gammu): Mobile phone management utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.13.0-1 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 684 kB
[11:10] <MenZa> (It responded to a query for “sony”, so one can assume that's for Sony Ericsson, among others)
[11:10] <matt__> yes
[11:11] <matt__> the same problem
[11:11] <JustV> un0p: but how i can kill any screen?
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> matt__: strange, i really don't know.
[11:11] <DRebellion> matt__: what exactly is the problem?
[11:11] <monsoon_king> thanx guys ..i will try
[11:11] <travisat> mstrobert: can you play mp3s on you rcomputer?
[11:11] <zagibu> i need a new linux graphics driver, the one included in ubuntu doesn't detect my 1366x768 resolution...where do I start?
[11:11] <MenZa> monsoon_king: good luck with it.
[11:11] <travisat> matt__: I mean
[11:11] <MenZa> zagibu: well, which graphics card do you haev?
[11:11] <MenZa> have*
[11:11] <matt__> so..
[11:11] <zagibu> an integrated 945GM
[11:11] <monsoon_king> thnx menza :)
[11:11] <un0p> JustV, you'll need to attach to it and exit from there or use kill
[11:12] <MenZa> zagibu: Intel chipset? Try downloading 915resolution from the repos.
[11:12] <zagibu> intel...i thought i mentioned it in the first post...but didnt, sorry
[11:12] <MenZa> zagibu: I'm guessing the issue is with widescreen, right?
[11:12] <matt__> I have passed to ubuntu since little time
[11:12] <JustV> un0p: ok, thks
[11:12] <albe> a tuttoi
[11:12] <albe> ciao a tutti
[11:12] <MenZa> !it | albe
[11:12] <ubotu> albe: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:12] <zagibu> yeah, but 915 resolution doesn't work...it's a problem with the driver i've read, it doesn't read the correct resolutions from the video bios
[11:13] <matt__> so i have some mp3 files
[11:13] <albe> nessuno di voi ha un hp dv 6000
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> DRebellion: i think he's trying to make an audio CD, but he says k3b, serpentine, etc, dont' work.
[11:13] <albe> ???????????????
[11:13] <Morpheus_> hello
[11:13] <MenZa> zagibu: that's strange; I've never heard of issues with intel cards. I have one myself, but I forget exactly which. It worked---with widescreen---out of the box.
[11:13] <MenZa> albe: /join #ubuntu-it
[11:13] <matt__> yes
[11:13] <MenZa> grazi :)
[11:13] <DRebellion> matt__: what is the error message? what _exactly_ goes wrong?
[11:13] <MenZa> +e
[11:14] <zagibu> okay, but what do I have to do if I manually want to compile the driver...I think I have the src repos online
[11:14] <matt__> each program I have try seems convert the file but
[11:14] <zagibu> it doesn't find any src intel video pakages, though
[11:14] <DRebellion> !enter | matt__
[11:14] <ubotu> matt__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:14] <spdf> Funny story, totally unrelated to Ubuntu. I'm at work right now, I work at a hotel overnight. Two drunk, naked men, just jumped 20', off of a bridge, just to get into our pool.
[11:14] <zagibu> do I just download it from the intel page?
[11:14] <DRebellion> !ot | spdf
[11:14] <ubotu> spdf: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:14] <MenZa> zagibu: I'm in a blank here, or I would help you. Sorry.  :(
[11:14] <zagibu> okay, thx
[11:14] <MenZa> spdf: please, #ubuntu-offtopic. I have to hear this.
[11:14] <travisat> matt__: can you play the mp3s on your computer and listen to them on your computer?
[11:14] <MenZa> :D
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> no kidding
[11:15] <albe> ciao
[11:15] <un0p> ciao
[11:15] <matt__> when I should write them on cd it show a error message
[11:15] <Symmetria> wth, I installed ubuntu-server, did an apt-get to get the kernel source, and vmware server claims kernel source doesnt match running kernel so wont compile its module
[11:15] <Symmetria> but the source and the kernel ARE the same version
[11:15] <albe> chi ha un hp dv 6000
[11:15] <matt__> yes i can play mp3 and wave on my computer
[11:15] <albe> ?
[11:15] <Tyczek> is there possiblity to recover files from Data partition, overwrited by ghost?
[11:16] <travisat> matt__: and when the program trying to write the mp3s to cd fails what does it say
[11:16] <DRebellion> matt__: what is the error message?
[11:16] <un0p> albe, in canale non paralare italiano - vai su #ubuntu-it
[11:17] <albe> nessun italiano?
[11:17] <un0p> non
[11:17] <albe> :(
[11:17] <un0p> !it | albe
[11:17] <ubotu> albe: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:17] <matt__> unknown error
[11:17] <matt__> io sono italiano
[11:17] <rxndx> hello all...
[11:17]  * DRebellion laughs
[11:18] <Qrawl> can someone help me with the Kubuntu version of amarok please?  when I click a file in my file manager, I want it to PLAY, not queue
[11:19] <MenZa> Qrawl: try #kubuntu
[11:19] <Al2O3> hi, I want to change from using the default 7.10 end user installation window manager (whatever it is, GNOME with some light rusty background), to using the WindowMaker window manager I installed with 'sudo apt-get menu gnustep wmaker'.  How do I change from the standard default winodw manager to the one I have installed?
[11:19] <Qrawl> I did
[11:19] <matt__> hey trevisat or Drebellion How can I talk only with you?
[11:19] <MenZa> Qrawl: chances are most people in here are using GNOME, not KDE
[11:19] <rxndx> just re-installed using the text based installer, with an encrypted LVM, now I don't have any splash screen... nothing...my monitor goes into sleep mode automatically and won't turn on until the main login screen...any help?
[11:19] <Qrawl> theres 1100 people here
[11:19] <MenZa> Al2O3: logout, then click “options” in the lower-left corner, choose “session” and then pick your wm
[11:19] <travisat> Al2O3: log out, on the login screen and the lower left there is a button, click it and change the session
[11:19] <matt__> It's my first time on irc chat
[11:19] <matt__> ..
[11:20] <MenZa> matt__: please leave queries in #ubuntu. :)
[11:20] <DRebellion> matt__: just start typing our names and hit tab after a few letters
[11:20] <MenZa> matt__: that way, others can benefit, too!
[11:20] <Rusty_Ryan> hi, i'm trying to set up a xinerama dualboot in gusty and it seems to work on x-server, but it is unable to load a desktop. is there someone with experience in setting up dual-heads?
[11:20] <Qrawl> and I already asked in #Kubuntu and #Amarok
[11:20] <odysseas> rxndx: probably wrong vga parameter at the grub line, use startupmanager to change it
[11:20] <spdf> <-- I've set mine up with TwinView, nVidia..
[11:20] <rxndx> odysseas, ok will try that, thank you
[11:20] <Rusty_Ryan> have ati radeon x800 gto
[11:21] <muszek> hi... I'm compiling 2.6.24 (my first kernel compilation ever) with default settings on c2d 2Ghz... how much time should it take?
[11:21] <Rusty_Ryan> so no twinview ;-)
[11:21] <Al2O3> MenZa:  travisat   excellent :)
[11:21] <spdf> Rusty_Ryan, Then we're totally opposite :P
[11:21] <Al2O3> didn't even see it down there.
[11:21] <Al2O3> hidden little doggy
[11:21] <MenZa> Al2O3: indeed. :)
[11:21] <odysseas> muszek: depends on the options you selected
[11:21] <Al2O3> much nicer !
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> twinview is awesome.
[11:21] <Al2O3> harks back to my old days on NeXTstep :)
[11:21] <matt__> Drebellion__: in this way?
[11:21] <Al2O3> wow, talk about a blast from the past.
[11:22] <DRebellion> matt__: yep, but my name doesnt have __ on the end ;)
[11:22] <Rusty_Ryan> so you can help me with xinerama IndyGunFreak?
[11:22] <muszek> odysseas: I copied the config from the current kernel and didn't change anything
[11:22] <rxndx> odysseas, how do I access startup manager?
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> Rusty_Ryan: sorry.
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> no.
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> know nothing about it.
[11:22] <odysseas> muszek: the ubuntu kernel has support for almost all hardware, so it should take a while
[11:22] <matt__> Drebellion    is this the right way?
[11:23]  * IndyGunFreak snickers
[11:23] <odysseas> rxndx: you probably need to install it first, sudo aptitude install startupmanager
[11:23] <muszek> odysseas: approx?  1  hour?  10 hours?
[11:23] <rxndx> odysseas, just what I figured... thanx again
[11:23] <yao_ziyuan> the world is happily liberated from microsoft's hands and enslaved into Ubuntu Corporation's hands
[11:23] <DRebellion> matt__: as long as you put my name at the start, my chat client will alert me.
[11:24] <odysseas> muszek: not sure how fast c2d compiles, shouldnt take longer than 30minutes though
[11:24] <filthpig> I've installed nautilus-script-audio-convert, do I have to restart gnome now?
[11:24] <Rusty_Ryan> hm... okay then. can anyone give me some advice on how to setup dualboot in general. tried the manual on the german wiki, but it doesn't work for me...
[11:24] <un0p> yao_ziyuan, guess some people always see the light :)
[11:24] <matt__> so what I've done is right?
[11:24] <odysseas> 30minutes is alot actually
[11:24] <matt__> sorry
[11:24] <DRebellion> matt__: yep
[11:24] <matt__> Drebellion  sorry
[11:24] <matt__> okay
[11:24] <muszek> odysseas: thank you
[11:24] <Rusty_Ryan> if i turn xinearama off, one screen works fine, the other just shows a blank xserver...
[11:25] <matt__> DRebellion    have you understood my problem?
[11:25] <Rusty_Ryan> and aticonfig really s***s ;-)
[11:26] <shedflex> question - I've got two serial ports on my PC... but, why would they come up as ttyS2 and S3 ... and I can't even seem to use them :(
[11:26] <DRebellion> matt__: so when you try to make an audio cd you get "unknown error"?
[11:26] <matt__> DRebellion yess
[11:26] <shedflex> (there's no apparent ttyS0 or S1
[11:26] <DRebellion> matt__: i have no idea why it would do that, sorry
[11:27] <matt__> DRebellion  oh.. nothing..
[11:27] <matt__> DRebellion  thnx
[11:27] <DRebellion> matt__: try back later and see if someone else knows
[11:28] <matt__> ok
[11:28] <odysseas> is there anyway to change the virtual desktop switch to the cube style, without installing the whole compiz fusion package?
[11:28] <matt__> DRebellion  ok
[11:28] <DRebellion> odysseas: i don't think so
[11:28] <matt__> DRebellion  I can't convert mp3 to wave too
[11:28] <DRebellion> matt__: what tool are you using
[11:28] <matt__> DRebellion  so for me..this is the problem
[11:29] <matt__> DRebellion  or banshee or serpentine
[11:29] <axel-fr> hi, i've got a weird thing, somehow the system monitor doubles the values for my network trafic, if i dowload at 250K/s it shows 500K/s, whats this due to ?
[11:30] <DRebellion> matt__: what error do you get?
[11:30] <yimelki> klk
[11:30] <odysseas> axel-fr: probably a bug
[11:30] <linxeh> shedflex: probably because they are on the PCI bus iirc
[11:30] <matt__> DRebellion  i don't know..
[11:30] <matt__> DRebellion  I can try again..
[11:30] <yimelki> waht
[11:30] <DRebellion> matt__: ok
[11:31] <matt__> DRebellion  will you wait a few minutes?
[11:31] <axel-fr> odysseas, ok, i think i can live with it anyway ^^
[11:31] <DRebellion> matt__: yes
[11:31] <matt__> DRebellion  thnx
[11:31] <wers> I want to be able to edit my text files in my pocket pc and ubuntu box. what format is best? the only format that works well with both is rtf. any suggestion? :)
[11:31] <linxeh> shedflex: as in the default for serial ports that sit on the pci bus is they start at ttyS2 (so they dont conflict with the normal ttyS0+1 on the old ISA bus). might have changed though and I could be wrong ;P
[11:32] <DanHerg> Cool Dating Club site [11:32] <filthpig> I've installed nautilus-script-audio-convert, do I have to restart gnome now?
[11:32] <DRebellion> wers: plain ascii ;)
[11:32] <matt__> DRebellion it's better serpentine or banshee?
[11:33] <DRebellion> matt__: i don't know
[11:33] <rxndx> odysseas,thanks that did the trick
[11:33] <shedflex> linxeh, okay, thanks for that info - wasn't aware of that
[11:33] <wers> DRebellion, I'm having problems with .txt because the spaces and bullet points wont display well
[11:33] <odysseas> rxndx: yw
[11:33] <DRebellion> wers: there is no "bullet point" in ascii
[11:33] <shedflex> linxeh, first time I've used Ubuntu for working with the serial ports (microcontroller stuff) and normally I'm used to using ttyS0/1, so thanks for that :)
[11:33] <wers> yep. that's why I'm looking for another format, DRebellion
[11:33] <itai> how do i change the name of a dir with a command? i want to change home_backup to home
[11:34] <DRebellion> wers: you could use a *
[11:34] <oddalot> !flash
[11:34] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:34] <DRebellion> itai: mv home_backup home
[11:34] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[11:34] <matt__> DRebellion I've chosen banshee
[11:34] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | oddalot
[11:34] <ubotu> oddalot: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[11:34] <matt__> DRebellion it's converting the files..
[11:34] <wers> DRebellion, the spaces won't display well too, for some reason
[11:34] <DRebellion> wers: that's just odd. are they simply left out?
[11:34] <oddalot> i did msg the bot
[11:34] <oddalot> he didn't msg me back
[11:35] <wers> DRebellion, some strange characters come out. i think, i'm settling with rtf
[11:35] <rootborn> how can install iwl3945 driver
[11:35] <oddalot> 'oh spelled his name wrong
[11:35] <rootborn> ?
[11:35] <oddalot> lol
[11:35] <DRebellion> oddalot: probably because you used the wrong syntax. please don't spam the cahnnel.
[11:35] <oddalot> shut the fuck up
[11:35] <oddalot> it's just irc
[11:35] <oddalot> get a life
[11:35] <itai> DRebellion thanks
[11:35] <DRebellion> !language | oddalot
[11:35] <ubotu> oddalot: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[11:36] <VRAG> take a look on this company guys! http://www.exlomproject.com Could we use it to develop some linux product?
[11:36] <DRebellion> wers: does this happen when you use return ?
[11:36] <rootborn> how can install iwl3945 driver ?
[11:36] <DRebellion> !ot | VRAG
[11:36] <ubotu> VRAG: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:36] <wers> DRebellion, yes
[11:36] <VRAG> sorry DRebellion
[11:37] <matt__> DRebellion  unknown error..
[11:37] <matt__> shit!
[11:37] <oddalot> sorry...i was out of hand, i apologize DRebellion
[11:37]  * k3asd hi
[11:37] <rootborn> how can install iwl3945 driver ?
[11:37] <DRebellion> wers: aah. so i'm assuming your pocket pc runs windows. this is because of a difference in the return character. linux uses \n whereas windows uses \r\n or something
[11:37] <wers> yep. DRebellion, win mobile 2003
[11:38] <wers> I guess, rtf is best
[11:38]  * DRebellion shrugs
[11:38] <linxeh> DRebellion: network protocols also use \r\n though, so MS aren't *that* wrong :)
[11:38] <orgthingy> hello
[11:38] <un0p> linxeh, just what protocols use CR_LF?
[11:38] <rootborn> how can install iwl3945 driver ?
[11:38] <orgthingy> I have dynamic IP.. and i wanna send a newsletter, but it's rejected by gmail/hotmail/yahoo! :P how can iuse proxy for the whole computer, not just for firefox ?
[11:38] <DRebellion> linxeh: i think \r\n offers more flexibility in ascii art
[11:39] <DRebellion> un0p: smtp
[11:39] <skd> test :)
[11:39] <un0p> DRebellion, you mean the microsoft version/extentions to smtp?
[11:39] <rootborn> how can install iwl3945 driver ?
[11:39] <DRebellion> un0p: no
[11:40] <DRebellion> !repeat | rootborn
[11:40] <ubotu> rootborn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:40] <DRebellion> un0p: http
[11:41] <un0p> DRebellion, smtp i was unsure of, now http really doesnt _need_ it, that i am sure of
[11:41] <kodge> Could anyone tell me what I need to do to get the desktop effects options on the system > prefrences list?
[11:41] <DRebellion> un0p: this is trivial and ot anyway
[11:42] <rich__> what do people use for instant messenging for webcams etc
[11:42] <DRebellion> kodge: system > preferences > appearance
[11:42] <linxeh> un0p: http, irc, smtp, yadda yadda
[11:42] <DRebellion> rich__: does your webcam work?
[11:42] <linxeh> un0p: check the rfcs. they all end lines with "CRLF"
[11:43] <kodge> DRebellion: That just enables that, it doesnt let me configure them in anyway. I meant an interface like in 7.04 with beryl, if that makes sense?
[11:43] <monsoon_king> is there an IM software for ubuntu wit all features like voice and cam?
[11:43] <HardDisk> monsoon_king, skype, mercury
[11:43] <Cromag> !amsn
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | Cromag
[11:43] <un0p> linxeh, the rfcs only end that way to ensure some people don't get _left out_ and the use of cr-lfs in other protocols is subjective to implementation
[11:44] <monsoon_king> for yahoo and msn
[11:44] <ubotu> Cromag: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[11:44] <DRebellion> !ot | un0p linxeh DRebellion
[11:44] <ubotu> un0p linxeh DRebellion: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:44] <HardDisk> monsoon_king, mercury (msn)
[11:44] <DRebellion> monsoon_king: pidgin
[11:44] <HardDisk> pidgin doesn't do voice or cam
[11:44] <orgthingy> I have dynamic IP.. and i wanna send a newsletter, but it's rejected by gmail/hotmail/yahoo! :P how can iuse proxy for the whole computer, not just for firefox ?
[11:44] <rich__> yeah drbellion
[11:45] <HardDisk> DRebellion, read before you post.
[11:45] <DRebellion> HardDisk: it doesn't?
[11:47] <worgil> when i want my server it looking error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53665/ what is it ?
[11:47] <HardDisk> rootborn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3562827
[11:48] <linxeh> un0p: my last comment in here on this - yes, I should have qualified it with "many of the popular network protocols". of course a protocol can use whatever methods it wants for communication.
[11:48] <worgil> when i want update my server it looking error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53665/ what is it ?
[11:48] <worgil> can anyone help me
[11:49] <Starnestommy> worgil: it looks like your server is having trouble doing DNS lookups.
[11:49] <rootborn> HardDisk,   capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical
[11:49] <rootborn>        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=e100 driverversion=3.5.17-k4-NAPI firmware=N/A ip=<IP_ADDRESS> latency=66 maxlatency=56 mingnt=8 module=e100 multicast=yes
[11:50] <HardDisk> worgil, dns error, that is from your ISP
[11:50] <worgil> how can i solve ?
[11:50] <HardDisk> worgil, wait a bit.
[11:50] <rootborn> HardDisk, I can't see my eth1 now...
[11:50] <worgil> HardDisk, thanks waiting
[11:50] <HardDisk> DNS errors are usually resolved with some patience.
[11:51] <HardDisk> ISP may be doing maintenance
[11:51] <HardDisk> rootborn, I suppose ndis didn't work either?
[11:51] <rvalles> I have this ubuntu here with both ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop. With xfce, openoffice displays text and no icons in toolbars (even tho it's set to display just icons), and in gnome, it displays the icons just fine. What's going on?
[11:52] <co_gokil> nick  ; unun
[11:52] <worgil> HardDisk, which DNS i can use ? i must update my server
[11:52] <unun> hi all
[11:53] <rootborn> HardDisk, I need to try with iwl3945 cos I try it last time with windows drivers and it din't work, but now I can't see my eth1 ...
[11:53] <Piet> a friend of mine has an issue with the loopback interface: it does not bind to <IP_ADDRESS>. is this normal behaviour on ubuntu?
[11:53] <HardDisk> worgil, DNS servers are provided to you by your provider.
[11:54] <worgil> sure but not updating my system
[11:54] <Seveas> Piet, no
[11:54] <DRebellion> Piet: what do you mean by "bind"?
[11:54] <HardDisk> can you ping ubuntu.com?
[11:54] <Piet> /etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.ca/874615
[11:54] <linxeh> worgil: add the ip address of the update server to /etc/hosts
[11:54] <linxeh> worgil: but remember to remove it afterwards
[11:54] <Seveas> Piet, looks good
[11:55] <Seveas> Piet, what happens if you ping localhost?
[11:55] <Piet> DRebellion: the ip addres sis not assigned to the interface automatically on boot
[11:55] <jester-> !flash
[11:55] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:55] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[11:55] <linxeh> worgil: you can use a webbased dns lookup tool to get the ip of the mirror you've chosen
[11:55] <bascule> security.ubuntu.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:55] <bascule> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:55] <bascule> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:55] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | jester-
[11:55] <ubotu> jester-: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[11:55] <worgil> okay linxeh thanks
[11:55] <jester-> sorry
[11:56] <nFKT> anyone have luck getting audio working on the xps 1330?
[11:56] <zagibu> I need a newer xserver-xorg-video-intel as the one currently available doesn't detect my native 1366x768 resolution...what do I do?
[11:56] <Ziroday> nFKT: have you checked google and the forums?
[11:56] <Dimitar> How can I setup when I add a user from terminal with adduser <username> automatic to be created public_html in /home/username? Please help
[11:57] <linxeh> worgil: you might also consider setting up a local dns server which goes against the root name servers if this kind of outage happens a lot for you
[11:57] <nFKT> yes, general consesus is that having 2.6.23 fixes it
[11:57] <bascule> Dimitar: /etc/skel is where to look
[11:57] <linxeh> worgil: did you check the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf are still valid? maybe your isp has different ones available etc
[11:57] <Piet> Seveas: he hasn't tried yet, but i just asked him to. however, "ifconfig lo" doesn't output '<IP_ADDRESS>'
[11:57] <Seveas> Piet, what does it output?
[11:58] <Seveas> Piet, did he manually bring lo down perhaps?
[11:58] <filthpig> I'm trying to use SoundConverter to make mp3s out of my flacs, but it doesn't work. When I run the program in terminal it claims: gobject.GError: no element "MP3"
[11:58] <Dimitar> bascule: /etc/skel is empty
[11:58] <Piet> Seveas: he just replied: nothing happens on ping
[11:59] <Piet> Seveas: "nothing" = no echo reply
[11:59] <Seveas> Piet, then he must have done something crazy :)
[11:59] <momy> ls
[11:59] <Seveas> Piet, try 'ifup lo'
[11:59] <Optyk> Hello.
[11:59] <Piet> Seveas: i'm sure he did not manually stop the interface, he would not know how to do it.
[11:59] <bascule> Dimitar: there are . files there, but it is not what I thought in ubuntu ... ??
[12:00] <Piet> Seveas: output of ifconfig -a : http://nopaste.info/962b0eb5e4.html
[12:00] <Dimitar> nope.. it's empty
[12:00] <linxeh> Dimitar: /etc/skel normally has a number of hidden files. what happens with ls -al ?
[12:00] <Piet> Seveas: this is before running "ifup lo"
[12:00] <bascule> Dimitar: well things in /etc/skel are added to users home dir, so thats where to put them :)
[12:01] <rootborn> how to install iwl3945-firmware ?
[12:02] <rootborn> can some one help me please?
[12:02] <odysseas> rootborn: if we could we would, google is your friend
[12:02] <linxeh> rootborn: google. first hit.
[12:02] <Optyk> I have little problem with synaptics touchpad. When I want scrool page it's works like mouse clicking. (up - left button, down - right, left - third button). Anyone could help me? It's very important for me. Photo of part what I mean: http://nexiu.myftp.org/~optyk/touchpad.jpg
[12:02] <linxeh> I search for "How to install iwl3945 UBUNTU firmware"
[12:03] <Seveas> rootborn, iwl3945 drivers and firmware are installed by default
[12:03] <dn4> !explorer
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about explorer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <Bruum> Hello... I have ATI card and trying to install driver... i have followd thise guide - http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/10/23/fglrx-8423---finally-with-AIGLX-support# - and afther that im trying to use 3D effects, then my screen are going with and i cant do nothing.. someone who knows what the problems is????
[12:03] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | dn4
[12:03] <ubotu> dn4: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[12:03] <Seveas> Bruum, the problem is that you have an ati card :)
[12:04] <Seveas> Bruum, and that you follow crap guides instead of official documentation
[12:04] <Bruum> okay?
[12:04] <rootborn> i need to install iwl3945 isted of ipw3945
[12:04] <Seveas> Bruum, so undo whatever you did with that guide and read docs on help.ubuntu.com
[12:04] <Piet> Seveas: "ifup lo" gives: "ifup: interface lo already configured", i asked him to run "ifdown lo && ifup lo" next
[12:05] <rootborn> Seveas, then how come my wireless don't work
[12:05] <rootborn> i try ti put windows driver on but it din't work
[12:05] <linxeh> Bruum: your first port of call should be the ubuntu wiki and forums, then here. those other guides nearly always contain big errors, and sometimes can cause damage to the installation making update managers break etc
[12:06] <rootborn> and now I want to put iwl3945 isted of ipw3945
[12:06] <Seveas> rootborn, using windows driver for  it is stupid -- just make sure the proper driver is loaded
[12:06] <filthpig> I'm trying to use SoundConverter to make mp3s out of my flacs, but it doesn't work. When I run the program in terminal it claims: gobject.GError: no element "MP3"
[12:06] <Seveas> !repeat | filthpig
[12:06] <ubotu> filthpig: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:06] <linxeh> rootborn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636177   - go read
[12:06] <DRebellion> filthpig: have you got mp3 codecs installed?
[12:06] <Rusty_Ryan> there is some information on miy xorg.conf in this thread, unfortunately it is in german. the confs should be readable, nevertheless. if there are any questions on the other posts feel free to ask ;-)
[12:07] <Rusty_Ryan> http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/148088/
[12:07] <filthpig> DRebellion, aye
[12:07] <freak_lick> hi
[12:07] <roddersg> can anyone tell me which cpu type of linux-restricted-module I should use for AMD processors running the 386-32-bit ubunut?
[12:07] <dn4> does anyone know how to get internet explorer working on gutsy?
[12:07] <Seveas> roddersg, you want the linux-generic package
[12:07] <DRebellion> dn4: no
[12:07] <Seveas> dn4, search for 'ies4linux' or use a real browser
[12:07] <bascule> rootborn: I am using 3945 right now to talk here, ubuntu default
[12:08] <roddersg> no I need the restricted modules because of nVidia, what I need to know is which one? 686/K7/K8
[12:08] <roddersg> is there any command I can use to determine the best version?
[12:08] <DRebellion> roddersg: 686 methinks
[12:08] <bascule> roddersg: 686
[12:08] <Seveas> roddersg, linux-generic is a metapackage that will drag in the right restricted modules
[12:09] <BuFF> hi, is there a way to view ubuntu files in xp ?
[12:09] <roddersg> so "apt-get install linux-generic" instead?
[12:09] <Seveas> BuFF, system -> admin -> shared folders
[12:09] <bascule> BuFF: there are win driver for est3 and reiser, read only
[12:09] <Seveas> roddersg, that ought to do it
[12:10] <roddersg> I am using an AMD processor
[12:10] <roddersg> AMD64 for that matter
[12:10] <BuFF> got that
[12:10] <bascule> BuFF: I meant ext3 not est3 sorry
[12:10] <BuFF> ok
[12:10] <Seveas> roddersg, doesn't matter :)
[12:10] <roddersg> any links where I can read up on this or will google throw up something?
[12:10] <DRebellion> roddersg: 686
[12:10] <Bruum> someone who can help me out on ubuntu documentaion? cant find anything about ATI radeon 1950pro cards.. how do get the drivers working
[12:11] <Seveas> !restricted drivers
[12:11] <DRebellion> roddersg: you're running an x86 kernel so you use 686
[12:11] <Seveas> !ati | Bruum
[12:11] <ubotu> Bruum: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:11] <linxeh> dn4: my experiences are that it is better (generally) to use a virtual machine with windows if you want to use IE. The chances are you want to use IE to see how pages look in that browser, but if you run on linux you are delegating lots of the rendering to underlying Wine components - which aren't necessarily going to render the same as on Windows
[12:12] <roddersg> agreed, but someone told me that I would get better performance if I chose the correct processor K7 or K8 (am downshifting from amd64)
[12:12] <Seveas> roddersg, that mattered 4 years ago. I doesn't now
[12:12] <Bruum> thx Seveas
[12:12] <orgthingy> how can i use Windows and ubuntu at the same time?
[12:12] <lostrose> i used this command to get my wiriless up and running but each time a restart my pc i need to re-enter the command... how can i get it to stay active... wlanconfig ath1 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode monitor....
[12:12] <Seveas> orgthingy, buy 2 computers
[12:13] <roddersg> ok, thanks a lot, I try linux-generic
[12:13] <orgthingy> now
[12:13] <orgthingy> the same computer
[12:13] <orgthingy> no**
[12:13] <orgthingy> there's a program
[12:13] <Seveas> orgthingy, install vmware-server :)
[12:13] <DRebellion> orgthingy: use a virtual machine or dualboot
[12:13] <rootborn> sudo modprobe -r ipw3945
[12:13] <rootborn> 2008-01-27 12:12:59: WARNING: No prior instance running.
[12:15] <iCEifer> anyone know what causes the error during Live boot "Buffer I/O error on sda, logical block 0" and it keeps doing it again & again and eventually can't load the partition table?
[12:17] <roddersg> thank you guys, need a reboot now
[12:17] <rootborn> can some one help me to fix my wireless?
[12:18] <lostrose> rootborn: whats ur problem .. cause i also have some... maybe we can help each other
[12:20] <rootborn> lostrose, my wireless card is Intel and its doesn't work, and I need to user iwl4965 driver wich they said its default but .. I get this error
[12:20] <rootborn> iwl4965 .
[12:20] <rootborn> sudo modprobe -r ipw3945
[12:20] <rootborn> 2008-01-27 12:14:28: WARNING: No prior instance running.
[12:20] <rootborn> and on lsmod | grep iwlwifi
[12:21] <rootborn> i get iwlwifi_mac80211      175112  1 iwl3945    cfg80211                7304  1 iwlwifi_mac80211
[12:22] <lostrose> rootborn: so the driver is loading at startup.... if u do an iwconfig...
[12:23] <rootborn> lostrose, yes
[12:26] <lostrose> rootborn: ur computer is'nt using a restricted driver....
[12:26] <rootborn> lostrose, yes it is
[12:26] <un_op> rootborn, why are you trying to load the ipw3945 module if you need the iwl4965 drivers?
[12:26] <rootborn> un0p, how to use iwl4965 drivers ?
[12:26] <shocker> hi everybody ;)
[12:27] <rootborn> how to make it loading iwl4965 ?
[12:27] <un_op> rootborn, well, first let me ask, are you sure that you need the iwl4965 drivers?
[12:28] <shocker> network guru anyone ??
[12:28] <un_op> rootborn, or even, what is the make of your wireless card?
[12:28] <rootborn> un0p, i try it with dindows drivers and it din't work and I read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Intel_4965_AGN_WiFi_Driver/Fiesty
[12:29] <rootborn> and un0p have a look here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/181255
[12:29] <rootborn> iwl4965 doesn't have a bug
[12:29] <un_op> rootborn, so you have an  Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965 ??
[12:30] <monzie> Hi all
[12:30] <rootborn> un_op, when I should be able to enable the wireless card with the hotkey. Re-set the network monitor in the top right by right-clicking on it and unchecking "Enable Networking". Unplug your alternate internet connection. Wait a moment, then check "Enable Networking". Your wireless card light should pop on, and you should be able to connect to wireless networks!
[12:30] <monzie> I am trying to install AMP on a my Ubuntu 7.10 box
[12:30] <rootborn> un_op, but that din't hapen
[12:30] <shocker> here's my question: is it normal to have "sent" network traffic much greater than received? (80 to 100 times)
[12:31] <DRebellion> shocker: depends hwat you're doing
[12:31] <rootborn> un_op, my wireless card is 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[12:31] <kazim59> How do I browse the hardware associated with my laptop?
[12:31] <shocker> DRebellion: apparently nothing, just browsing the Internet...
[12:31] <DRebellion> shocker: no, that's not normal for http
[12:32] <DRebellion> kazim59: sudo lshw
[12:32] <monzie>  apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server build-essential libmysqlclient15-dev python-dev mongrel rubygems rails mongrel-doc apache2-doc
[12:33] <rootborn> un_op, can you help me to try with iwl4965?
[12:33] <shocker> mmh... I've been trying to analyze the network traffic but I couldn't get any hint (I'm not too clever in that)... Any hint?
[12:33] <kazim59> DRebellion: Alright, but how do I know if I've a microphone?
[12:33] <un_op> rootborn, what happens if you try loading iwl3945? sudo modprobe iwl3945
[12:34] <rootborn> un_op, nothing
[12:34] <DRebellion> kazim59: search google for images of microphones and compare them to what you see when you look at your computer
[12:35] <un_op> rootborn, it's probably completed successfully then -- what does this return? use the !pastebin if necessary --  sudo iwconfig
[12:35] <monzie> http://pastebin.ca/874661
[12:35] <inflex> is there a GUI modem/serial-port terminal program for Ubuntu?
[12:35] <inflex> (like minicom, but X based)
[12:35] <monzie> ^^ is the error i get when trying to install mysql-server on Ubuntu
[12:35] <monzie> can someone help me please
[12:35] <DRebellion> shocker: try netstat -p
[12:35] <rootborn> un_op, http://pastebin.ca/874666
[12:36] <un_op> rootborn, it looks like your wireless interface might be working now -- what does this return?  sudo iwlist scan
[12:37] <peanutwithchocol> does anybody know a tux very funny game where tux complete missions and have a friend called gnu (a bull or similar) and the gov try to catch them because they did caritative actions??
[12:37] <un_op> rootborn, also attach the output of this --  dmesg | tail -n 30
[12:37] <rootborn> un_op, http://pastebin.ca/874667
[12:38] <braveheart_m> hello. can you recommend running ubuntu server in ubuntu desktop?
[12:38] <rootborn> un_op, http://pastebin.ca/874668
[12:39] <un_op> rootborn, it's looking good --  try this command again please -  sudo sh -c "ifup wlan0_rename; iwlist scan"
[12:39] <DRebellion> braveheart_m: what sort of server?
[12:40] <rootborn> un_op, http://pastebin.ca/874669
[12:40] <shocker> DRebellion: netstat -p gives pages of "connected" but many seems to be ubuntu standard services/processes.. What sahall I do?
[12:41] <rootborn> un_op, eth1 shoud be wireless card ...
[12:41] <un_op> rootborn, ok, as per your dmesg output ( http://pastebin.ca/874668 ) the wireless card is detected fine but the interface is not brought up, you probably need to enable the wireless interface via the switch/button on your laptop
[12:41] <DRebellion> shocker: look for something out of the ordinary
[12:41] <un_op> rootborn, it looks like wlan0_rename is your wlan interface here
[12:42] <rootborn> un_op, but it is switch on
[12:42] <rootborn> and the red light is on cos the right driver isn't there
[12:43] <rootborn> un_op, my wth1 is seen as eth0 but it's my wireless card
[12:44] <rootborn> *eth1
[12:44] <un_op> rootborn, strange -- ok, but try this and post output-- echo "auto wlan0_rename" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces; /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:45] <rootborn> un_op, http://pastebin.ca/874674
[12:45] <un_op> rootborn, for some reason, iwconfig and iwlist dont seem to think eth0 or eth1 are wireless capable
[12:45] <levander> The instructions for adding the medibuntu repositories on the Ubuntu Wiki look like they're for Dapper.  Are there any more up to date instructions?
[12:46] <DRebellion> levander: just follow the instructions on the medibuntu website
[12:46] <rootborn> eth0 its my land line
[12:46] <rootborn> and eth1 shud be wireless card but some where is someting wrong with my drivers
[12:47] <levander> DRebellion: And use medibuntu's Dapper repositories?
[12:48] <un_op> rootborn, ok, can you edit your your interfaces file and put this in ( http://pastebin.ca/874678 ) -- gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:48] <ubuntu> Hello all. I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 live in my Dell Inspiron 530S desktop.Need to know if Kubuntu or Ubuntu can detect wireless cards for local and internet access.
[12:48] <levander> DRebellion: The Medibuntu web site links to the Ubuntu Wiki for installation instructions.  That's why I quoted the Ubuntu Wiki.
[12:49] <ubuntu> Hello all. I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 live in my Dell Inspiron 530S desktop.Need to know if Kubuntu or Ubuntu can detect wireless cards for local and internet access.
[12:49] <ubuntu> Hello all. I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 live in my Dell Inspiron 530S desktop.Need to know if Kubuntu or Ubuntu can detect wireless cards for local and internet access.
[12:49] <ubuntu> Hello all. I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 live in my Dell Inspiron 530S desktop.Need to know if Kubuntu or Ubuntu can detect wireless cards for local and internet access.
[12:49] <rootborn> un_op, http://pastebin.ca/874683
[12:49] <peabody> ????
[12:49] <levander> ubuntu: first choose a nick.  type: "/nick <nickname>"
[12:49] <peabody> ubuntu: depends on your wireless card
[12:49] <levander> ubuntu: Then, yes Ubuntu still has some trouble recognizing wireless LAN cards.
[12:50] <un0p> rootborn, got dc()ed .. let me know when you are done there
[12:50] <ubuntu> :-(
[12:50] <levander> ubuntu: Once the hardware has been recognized, detecting the networks available to the network card will be no problem.
[12:50] <un0p> ubuntu, it's likely that the card is supported -- do you know the make of the wireless card?
[12:50] <levander> ubuntu: Search ubuntuforums.org for someone using your same WiFi card maybe.
[12:50] <peabody> ubuntu: depends on the card, if it wasn't automagically configured, there's still hope, but you may have to resort to using a piece of software called ndiswrapper
[12:51] <DRebellion> levander: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[12:51] <DRebellion> levander: then, wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update
[12:51] <peabody> ubuntu: ndiswrapper allows one to use the windows drivers for the card in Linux.   You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:52] <un0p> ubuntu, once is enough!!!
[12:52] <levander> DRebellion: where are you getting those instructions from?
[12:52] <un0p> ubuntu, it's supported
[12:52] <DRebellion> levander: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[12:53] <levander> un0p: I think he may have some hardware problem that's causing what he says to always be repeated.
[12:53] <un0p> levander, like something's miswired?? :)
[12:54] <levander> DRebellion: So, you're just switching gutsy for dapper?
[12:54] <ubuntu> unOp: Belkin F5D7010
[12:54] <ubuntu> unOp: Belkin F5D7010
[12:54] <ubuntu> unOp: Belkin F5D7010
[12:54] <rootborn> levander, you think too much, cos on debian it work fine
[12:54] <un0p> rootborn, can you delete the last three lines and place this in -- http://pastebin.ca/874678
[12:54] <rootborn> un0p, ok
[12:54] <ubuntu> unOP: I'm messaging u one on one but I guess u r not receiving me.
[12:55] <neopsyche> can someone help me setup mythtv?
[12:55] <un0p> ubuntu, aye aye aye, i gotcha
[12:55] <DRebellion> levander: no, i'm just following the instructions
[12:55] <filthpig> I'm trying to use SoundConverter to make mp3s out of my flacs, but it doesn't work. When I run the program in terminal it claims: gobject.GError: no element "MP3"
[12:55] <filthpig>  any ides?
[12:55] <neopsyche> please
[12:55] <levander> neopsyche: #ubuntu-mythtv
[12:55] <weltall> there is a way to force the linux kernel to allocate a certain process to a specific core?
[12:55] <un0p> ubuntu, I recieved you 7 times, and you shouldnt repeat anyway
[12:55] <neopsyche> levander: thanks
[12:55] <snadge> where can i get the .config file for the kernel that im using? (standard ubuntu gutsy one)
[12:55] <levander> DRebellion: Oh hell, I misread them.  Thanks for letting me know.
[12:55] <DRebellion> levander: :P
[12:56] <MAXDDARK> hello
[12:56] <rootborn> un0p, done, but have a llok here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsIntel mine is Pro/Wireless 3945 ABG (Centrino)
[12:56] <stdin> snadge: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[12:56] <ubuntu> unop: I put the info. more than once because it's a "jungle" here! :-o I sent u a private message but it seems u r not receiving me.
[12:56] <shocker> DRebellion: thanks for your effort, I finally managed to obtain the complete netstat -p report.
[12:56] <MAXDDARK> what is the diff between modeprobe -r and rmmod ?
[12:56] <levander> ubuntu: We're receiving you.  What you're doing is what makes the channel a jungle.  It ticks people off.
[12:56] <un0p> ubuntu, it's supported https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBelkin
[12:56] <rootborn> un0p, done, but have a llok here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsIntel mine is Pro/Wireless 3945 ABG (Centrino)
[12:57] <un0p> rootborn, can you issue this command again (keeping fingers crossed) -- sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:57] <stdin> MAXDDARK: not much, modprobe -r really just calls rmmod, but it'll handle module dependencies better
[12:57] <MAXDDARK> thanks
[12:58] <MAXDDARK> anybody doing LPIC ?
[12:58] <neopsyche> Can someone please help me install myth-tv
[12:58] <shocker> DRebellion: do you think is there any way to test each entry of the netstat -p without risking to worse the situation?
[12:58] <neopsyche> i seem to need help configuring it
[12:59] <ubuntu> unOp: Thanx 4 the info. Much appreciated.
[12:59] <rootborn> un0p, I have a user and pass when I wana conect to my wireless rooter
[12:59] <rootborn> un0p, http://pastebin.ca/874701
[13:00] <unop> rootborn, ok, looks like the interface came up now -- let's scan for wireless networks - sudo iwlist scan
[13:01] <rootborn> un0p, http://pastebin.ca/874705
[13:02] <Kalidarn> just a quick question, does ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu install the whole desktop now? originally back when i used it in versions 5.04 and 5.10 you could only install a server install or a complete install.
[13:02] <unop> rootborn, is  BTVOYAGER2091-4E  your wireless network?
[13:02] <rootborn> yes
[13:02] <filthpig> Any tips on how to convert flac to mp3?
[13:02] <Kalidarn> does the ubuntu installer now allow for modular instalations like say SUSE or Fedora?
[13:02] <unop> rootborn, looks good -- try using the network manager to connect to it - i guess you know that is done
[13:03] <unop> Kalidarn, what do you mean exactly?
[13:03] <rootborn> unop, hmm din't think it will work, i still have that red light on
[13:04] <bazhang> neopsyche: have you got the back end set up? you need help configuring the front end? is this mythbuntu or something else--have you first read all the documentation?
[13:04] <shocker> Could anyone help me with netstat -p entries: http://pastebin.ca/874709
[13:04] <wyclif> hey shocker
[13:05] <shocker> hi wyclif
[13:05] <neopsyche> bazhang: it is myth-tv from sudo apt-get install... and i have tried to access the config but it just kicks me out
[13:05] <rootborn> un0p, I cann't configure it
[13:05] <bazhang> neopsyche: what about all my other questions?
[13:06] <neopsyche> backend
[13:06] <neopsyche> hmm
[13:06] <neopsyche> bazhang: backend .. not sure
[13:07] <rootborn> un0p, i don't know why I got eth1 as someting else when it is wireless
[13:07] <Kalidarn> un0p: what i mean is am i able to choose what i want installed during the installation
[13:07] <bazhang> neopsyche: mythtv is not something of a few moments installation--it is actually quite complex--you should read all the documentation; if you are not sure what a back end and a front end then there is no way to tell you here
[13:07] <Kalidarn> when i use something like Kubuntu or Ubuntu do i get a heap of packages i might not use
[13:07] <Kalidarn> can i install them as i choose?
[13:08] <Kalidarn> back when i used ubuntu last it had the text installer and this wasn't possible
[13:08] <rootborn> un0p, i will try on debian again
[13:08] <neopsyche> bazhang: thanks
[13:08] <Seveas> Kalidarn, you can remove whatever you want :)
[13:08] <Kalidarn> packages like ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop used to pull in all of the desktop environment
[13:08] <rootborn> to see how it work and I will put ubuntu then again
[13:08] <wyclif> Kalidarn for those issues i recommend looking into aptitude, reading the docs, and installing it to manage your packages and clean unused dependencies
[13:08] <Kalidarn> Seveas: yes but the issue was the next dist-upgrade would pull it back in
[13:08] <Seveas> Kalidarn, not anymore
[13:09] <Kalidarn> ah so you can do light installs now Seveas?
[13:09] <Seveas> Kalidarn, many things are now Recommends: instead of Depends:
[13:09] <Kalidarn> right
[13:09] <Seveas> no, the install is still heavy-ish, but it's easier to remove
[13:09] <shocker> wyclif: any hint about that netstat -p report?
[13:09] <wyclif> shocker didn't see the pastebin yet
[13:09] <wyclif> hold on
[13:10] <shocker> wyclif, take your time, thanks a lot ;)
[13:10] <uno1> rootborn: i'm back (having a few network) troubles of my own - any luck?
[13:11] <rootborn> uno1, yes it don't work, and my wth1 looks like eth0
[13:12] <rootborn> uno1, can you help me to remove all this drivers and start it again with that driver ?
[13:12] <rootborn> uno1, with this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsIntel
[13:12] <uno1> rootborn: show me an output of lsmod
[13:12] <levander> I just read something that said there are problems with the flash plugin in the medibuntu repositories, is that really true?
[13:12] <uno1> rootborn: i know what card you have
[13:13] <rootborn> uno1, http://pastebin.ca/874715
[13:18] <un0p> rootborn, incase you didnt get the last post - sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi_mac80211 iwl3945
[13:19] <rootborn> un0p, sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi_mac80211 iwl3945
[13:19] <rootborn> FATAL: Module iwlwifi_mac80211 is in use.
[13:19] <un0p> rootborn, you might need to take the interface down first -- sudo ifdown wlan0_rename
[13:20] <Virca6333> Hello
[13:20] <un0p> hola
[13:20] <rootborn> un0p, http://pastebin.ca/874725
[13:20] <shocker> wyclif: this is what is worrying me: http://pastebin.ca/874724
[13:21] <un0p> rootborn, ok, run the modprobe command
[13:21] <Virca6333> People from
[13:21] <rootborn> sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi_mac80211 iwl3945
[13:21] <rootborn> FATAL: Module iwlwifi_mac80211 is in use.
[13:22] <un0p> rootborn,  sudo modprobe -r iwl3945
[13:22] <kazol_> I cannot access a printer from the network.
[13:22] <rootborn> un0p, thats fine
[13:22] <rootborn> no output
[13:22] <kazol_> The printer is connected to a Ubuntu desktop, with all "Printer Configuration" settings set.
[13:22] <un0p> rootborn, ok, it's removed
[13:23] <un0p> rootborn, you might like to restart although its not necessary
[13:23] <kazol_> Anyone?
[13:23] <rootborn> un0p, ok I will
[13:26] <rootborn> un0p, back
[13:26] <un0p> rootborn, let's see an lsmod again
[13:26] <un0p> rootborn, also include this -- ifconfig -a
[13:27] <nikolam> kazol_, : http://localhost:631/
[13:27] <rootborn> un0p, http://pastebin.ca/874746
[13:28] <kazol_> nikolam: Then what?
[13:28] <Chafka> i have samsung syncmaster 740bf where can i found drivers for it ??? i have only windows drivers:S
[13:28] <neopsyche> can someone help me install my scanner?
[13:28] <nikolam> kazol_, http://www.cups.org/cups-help.html
[13:29] <un0p> rootborn, sudo modprobe -r ipw3945   and return  ifconfig -a
[13:29] <Oli``> shift, alt, control, caps-lock, num-lock and few other keys have suddenly stopped working. i've tried the keyboard on another computer and it's fine. is there a way to ''refresh'' it without restarting/
[13:29] <rootborn> un0p, http://pastebin.ca/874754
[13:29] <nikolam> kazol_, http://www.cups.org/documentation.php
[13:30] <neopsyche> my scanner is v3300
[13:30] <Chafka> i have samsung syncmaster 740bf where can i found drivers for it ??? i have only windows drivers:S are there any linux drivers ??
[13:31] <nikolam> kazol_, Manage server...
[13:31] <bazhang> Chafka: this is a monitor? does not connecting do it
[13:31] <samad909> hi, i need help with bluetooth, my phone can discover the pc but cant pair, and the pc cant even find the phone, options on the pc and phone are set to shown to all and all devices connectable, any ideas/
[13:32] <Chafka> bazhang, yes it's monitor.. but it has digital cable and on windows i am using it on digital but on ubuntu only analog.. i want digital drivers
[13:32] <linduxed> while you clear your firefox history quite often...is there any way to make your bookmarks ALWAYS show up in the navigationbar (like history)?
[13:32] <bazhang> Chafka: dvi?
[13:32] <Chafka> yes
[13:33] <kazol_> nikolam: What's the default passwd?
[13:33] <helllues> there is a chanell about c language ?
[13:33] <bazhang> Chafka: you should contact syncmaster and see if they provide those drivers
[13:34] <Chafka> ok thnx
[13:34] <bazhang> ##c ?
[13:34] <h01ger> hi. which syslog does ubuntu use as default nowadays?
[13:34] <kazol_> helllues: ##c
[13:34] <un_op> linduxed, check out the all in one sidebar for firefox
[13:35] <rootborn> un0p, http://xs223.xs.to/xs223/08040/screenshot100.jpg
[13:35] <roy_> I have a question abt the compiz-settings-manager
[13:35] <roy_> does it save the settings into a text file somewhere?
[13:35] <nikolam> kazol_, I dunno password, see manual. try to install system-config-printer package and run gksu /usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py to install printer.
[13:35] <linduxed> un_op: will do
[13:36] <un_op> rootborn, disable the thing :)
[13:36] <rootborn> and after that restart
[13:36] <rootborn> just a sex
[13:36] <rootborn> *sec
[13:36] <samad909> hi, i need help with bluetooth, my phone can discover the pc but cant pair, and the pc cant even find the phone, options on the pc and phone are set to shown to all and all devices connectable, any ideas?
[13:36] <kliklik> When installing ubuntu, I've created four partitions: root, home, swap and windows, but now I want to install windows and it sees only one big partition. Anyone knows why?
[13:36] <pawan> hi
[13:36] <roy_> while editing the compiz settings I accidentally made one of the "Super+Tab" hotkeys into "Delete", and now I can't set it back to "Super+Tab" and my Delete Key doesn't work :p
[13:37] <pewpewpew> roy_: now that's funny
[13:37] <samad909> kliklik: it is better off if you install windows 1st and then ubuntu
[13:37] <roy_> anyone have any idea how I can set it back?
[13:37] <pewpewpew> i can't exactly help you but it has something to it
[13:38] <roy_> "has something to it"?
[13:38] <andersin> how can I load nvidia_new instead of nvidia on startup on 7.10?
[13:38] <kliklik> samad909, sure, it's just that I haven't used windows in a year or so and hoped i wouldn't need it anymore
[13:39] <samad909> kliklik: also if you manage to install windows now, you will have to use the livecd to fix grub else you wont be able to boot into ubuntu
[13:39] <samad909> kliklik: if i may ask..what do you need to do in windows?
[13:40] <kliklik> samad909, that's fine, I know that, it's just that windows sees only one partition (entire disk) and not the tiny one i've assigned to it
[13:40] <kliklik> samad909, just games
[13:40] <rootborn> un0p, back
[13:40] <samad909> kliklik: high end games? or ones like czero and stuff?
[13:40] <max__> ?
[13:40] <kliklik> samad909, yeah
[13:40] <samad909> kliklik: high end?
[13:41] <rootborn> un0p, born@ubuntu:~$ modprobe -r ipw3945
[13:41] <rootborn> 2008-01-27 13:40:53: WARNING: No prior instance running.
[13:41] <rootborn> un0p, http://pastebin.ca/874772
[13:41] <samad909> kliklik: windows it is then, but it is better if you install windows 1st and then get ubuntu back on, backup your data or just put some old ide disk in and install xp on that ;)
[13:42] <kregg> hello guys, just wondering can compiz fusion cause programs to crash more than usual?
[13:42] <kregg> i feel like ever since I've customised compiz fusion, it's crashing a lot of my programs
[13:43] <kliklik> samad909, I hoped not to have to install ubuntu again, I've just swapped the harddrive for a bigger one (old one died). I've had only ubuntu on the old one and now that I have some space, I wanted to play a bit again :)
[13:43] <Ronald> Hi, Running gutsy, trying to install parley-kde4 from gutsy-pbackports. Running into most likely the same problem as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdetoys-kde4/+bug/182638. Any clues for a solution ;)?
[13:43] <samad909> kliklik: there must be a way
[13:43] <samad909> kliklik: let me try to find a solution
[13:43] <bazhang> #kubuntu-kde4 will likely help there
[13:43] <ansque> siemka
[13:44] <ansque> mam pewien problem
[13:44] <un_op> rootborn, right, the module has been disabled, and you no longer have eth1 -- why don't you try the iwl3945 driver now?
[13:44] <Ronald> bazhang: that a suggestion for me?
[13:44] <bazhang> english ansque
[13:44] <bazhang> yes Ronald
[13:44] <Ronald> bazhang: will check there, thanks
[13:44] <rootborn> un_op, cos I don't know how to do it ..
[13:44] <kliklik> samad909, it's a laptop, no option for second harddrive.. I'll try installing windows through qemu, giving it a partition i've assigned as a single disk. than I'll muck around with the grub and boot.ini and try to make it work native .)
[13:45] <un_op> rootborn, eesh, you should make notes for your reference -- you might need it later
[13:45] <samad909> kliklik: alright best of luck ;)
[13:45] <un_op> rootborn, sudo modprobe iwl3945
[13:45] <samad909> kliklik: dont forget to make that disk bootable
[13:45] <un_op> rootborn, that installs the module for your wlan interface
[13:45] <rootborn> un_op, its fine
[13:46] <un_op> rootborn, check the output of dmesg to see if the card has been loaded - dmesg | tail -n 10
[13:46] <rootborn> un_op, http://pastebin.ca/874777
[13:47] <un_op> rootborn, if you see it has been loaded - check that the interface is loaded ok - sudo ifconfig -a
[13:47] <kliklik> samad909, it's just puzzling that windows sees no partitions. I've used msdos disklabel when creating them and they are all primary
[13:47] <un_op> rootborn, if you see the interface - check if it can scan wireless networks - sudo iwlist scan
[13:47] <rootborn> http://pastebin.ca/874778
[13:48] <rootborn> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[13:48] <rootborn> wlan0_rename  Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[13:48] <rootborn> the same thing ..
[13:48] <samad909> kliklik: maybe try gparted live cd and see what is up, if something is wrong resize and then make another bootable partition and install xp on that
[13:48] <hui> hallo?
[13:48] <un_op> rootborn, try and bring the interface up - sudo ifup wlan0
[13:49] <samad909> kliklik: but after you install xp fixing your grub will be your first priority
[13:49] <rootborn> sudo ifup wlan0
[13:49] <rootborn> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[13:49] <kliklik> samad909, yeah, that's no problem
[13:49] <joe_> is there anyone out there who rights aps for linux? someone who can take a windows ap and make it into a linux ap?
[13:49] <samad909> kliklik: alright then, give gparted a try ;)
[13:50] <un_op> rootborn, add these two lines into /etc/network/interfaces - make sure they aren't already in
[13:50] <jrib> joe_: what issue are you having with ubuntu?
[13:50] <kliklik> samad909, gparted reports no problems.. everything seems ok
[13:50] <un_op> rootborn,   auto wlan0_rename     iface wlan0_rename inet dhcp
[13:51] <joe_> jrib: I have aps that I cant use without wine. I want to be free of windows
[13:51] <teodra> i want a program to access my ubuntu from web.. ???
[13:51] <jrib> joe_: what apps?
[13:51] <magda> magda.netfriend
[13:51] <samad909> kliklik: i dont have any idea then
[13:51] <rootborn> un_op, thanx a lot for your help
[13:51] <rootborn> I really apreciate
[13:51] <samad909> kliklik: is it the sp2 cd or one without sp?
[13:51] <robobob> anyone know if there is a channel for vpn issues?
[13:51] <rootborn> I will install debian back
[13:51] <ompaul> teodra, you want ssh
[13:51] <rootborn> to see how it works
[13:52] <kliklik> samad909, it's the one with the sp2 rolled in
[13:52] <MeThu> hi
[13:52] <samad909> kliklik: hmm no idea then, sorry
[13:52] <rootborn> and if you'll be online I will msg you
[13:52] <rootborn> thanx a lot
[13:52] <kate__> hi... I've just compiled my own kernel (2.6.24), because in stock gutsy my ipw3945 freezes from time to time (reboot required).  after I booted to the new kernel, I have no wi-fi at all... can someone please tell me what to do or point me to some resources?
[13:52] <kliklik> samad909, no problem :)
[13:52] <teodra> ompaul, no.. i want to work like remote desktop but from web.. like on suse..
[13:52] <ompaul> teodra, on your box install like this:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[13:52] <joe_> jrib: nagraedit5.2, jkeys, WinExplorer, RomExplorer
[13:53] <ompaul> teodra, I know not suse - I guess you want a program like "krdc" is it useful you should really look at the application in that and then install the same
[13:53] <flats> Ok simple linux newbie help.  I have two drives in my system.  sda main boot drive,  sdb drive I just set up in Gparted with ext3 filesystem.  I need to add sdb to fstab.  I created a mount part called /media/storage .  How do I add that to my fstab so it loads on boot. ( I also did chmod 777 on the /media/storage)
[13:53] <un_op> !fstab | flats
[13:53] <bardyr> kate__, get hardy, it has 2.6.24 :D
[13:53] <ubotu> flats: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[13:53] <kate__> bardyr, it's too early in the dev stage...
[13:54] <bardyr> kate__, or do a dmesg, the driver is probably complaining about missing firmware
[13:54] <kate__> bardyr, I've done it... no mention of "3945" in dmesg
[13:54] <bardyr> kate__, alpha4 is out in a couple of days, most major things are done
[13:54] <teodra> clear
[13:55] <kate__> bardyr, is it stable enough for everyday work?
[13:55] <jrib> joe_: your best bet is to look for native linux alternatives, and I don't know what any of those apps are except maybe WinExplorer.  Do you just mean windows explorer, the file manager, there?
[13:55] <teodra> ompaul, i like something like vncviewer but on web.. try 5555.dyndns.org:5801
[13:55] <RequinB5> Testing (fixed?) pidgin
[13:55] <bardyr> kate__, i have not had any major problem with it and i use it for production usage, but its and alpha
[13:56] <kate__> bardyr, ok, thanks
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: Morning.. I have a couple of messages for pm if you have a minute
[13:56] <samad909> hi, i need help with bluetooth, my phone can discover the pc but cant pair, and the pc cant even find the phone, options on the pc and phone are set to shown to all and all devices connectable, any ideas?
[13:56] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: sure
[13:58] <robobob> hey everytime i try and rdp to a box on my vpn my net dies can any1 heko
[13:58] <robobob> help*
[13:59] <elbermungsterses> hi guys, i'm still kind of a newbie at Ubuntu, and there is a problem with my home directory. can anyone help please?
[13:59] <jrib> elbermungsterses: what problem are you having?
[14:00] <brobostigon> good afternoon
[14:00] <snador> l.openoffice.org
[14:01] <elbermungsterses> well, i recently had a weird folder in my home directory that said "file:" and inside that it said my home folder name and inside that still it said "Desktop" and in the "desktop" folder there was nothing.
[14:02] <ctothej> How can I stop gnome from opening the last saved session on logon?
[14:02] <elbermungsterses> so i ran the root terminal and rm -rf'd the directory and now i can't change the names of folders.
[14:02] <BB88> Hello. How can I stop Sound Juicer from automatically opening every time I insert an Audio CD?
[14:03] <jrib> elbermungsterses: can you pastebin 1) the full command you used (without running it again) and 2) the full command you are trying now that does not work and all of its output ?
[14:03] <jrib> BB88: system -< administration -> removable drives and media
[14:04] <brobostigon> un_op: hi, hows sheffield??
[14:04] <jrib> !pastebin | elbermungsterses
[14:04] <ubotu> elbermungsterses: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:04] <BB88> jrib: Ok, thank you.
[14:05] <elbermungsterses> ok, first i did sudo rm -rf /home/*MY HOME DIRECTORY NAME*/file:/pwang/Desktop. after doing that, i can't rename files and folders again, even with root.
[14:05] <deeps> Hmm, having some trouble enabling DMA on my devices, I have 4 IDE disks plugged in using the onboard IDE channels, primary master+slave both enable DMA fine, but on the secondary channel i can only get DMA working on one disk, either hdc or hdd, and it alternates as to which one to disable dma on
[14:06] <jrib> elbermungsterses: give me one example of a command that fails please
[14:06] <abhi> I have a mouse whose back and up page button working in firefox but not working nautilus. how to activate the button in nautilus?
[14:07] <jrib> abhi: you can use xbindkeys or imwheel to make the button emit alt-left and alt-right
[14:08] <Debaser> hi i m using ubuntu gutsy is there something i can use to recover deleted files in ubuntu?
[14:08] <abhi> jrib: I have tried the xbindkeys previously but without any success.
[14:08] <jrib> abhi: pastebin you the ~/.xbindkeysrc you tried
[14:08] <jrib> s/you//
[14:08] <sjolshag>  Anybody been able to get suspend to work w/latest ATI drivers (8.1) and Gutsy?
[14:09] <abhi> jrib:i foundthat imwheel in mandriva. yesterday i tried the pclinuxos-gnome. where i found the mouse is working fine.
[14:09] <sjolshag> Still seeing hangs
[14:09] <abhi> jrib: that is working in mandriva
[14:09] <jrib> abhi: great, I can help you figure out what's wrong if I see the .xbindkeysrc
[14:10] <booncer> any 1 know how to make grub recondise my pcmcia sata card ubuntu installs fine just wont boot?
[14:10] <compwiz18> sjolshag: I think the latest drivers are 8.2
[14:10] <compwiz18> sjolshag: sorry, my mistake, it's 8.1
[14:10] <abhi> jrib: I forgot about xbindkeys .pls give some url to setup it.
[14:10] <elbermungsterses> ok, i can't do the "mv file/*NEW FILE NAME*" command
[14:11] <MirJA> elbermungsterses, errrr it should be "mv -v old/file new/file
[14:11] <MirJA> "
[14:12] <vidsan> file-meta.db 31.4 GB!!! Help please!
[14:12] <teodra> i want a program to access my ubuntu from internet something live vncviewer but on web... java applet pls help!!!
[14:12] <elbermungsterses> yeah, i can't do that command anymore
[14:12] <MirJA> :/
[14:13] <jrib> elbermungsterses: paste the *exact* command you are using and the full output.  This will help us see the problem
[14:14] <brobostigon> teodra: some vnc servers do allow access via http, jus search on packages.ubuntu.com, i am sure there are some.
[14:14] <vidsan> file-meta.db 31.4 GB!!! Help please!
[14:15] <Kheops_74> Hi all. Is it the place to ask technical question?
[14:15] <wyclif> Kheops_74 just ask!
[14:15] <linxeh> vidsan: I guess you have a lot of files, or tracker went wrong :o
[14:15] <brobostigon> Kheops_74: alwways
[14:15] <linxeh> Kheops_74: yup
[14:15] <jrib> Kheops_74: yes (any ubuntu support question but the one you just asked is ok :))
[14:16] <Kheops_74> Do you use virtualbox with a webcam?
[14:16] <vidsan> lixeh: I read somewhere that it shouldn't exceed 1 GB. I have a lot of files though - over 205 gb music etc
[14:17] <linxeh> vidsan: it can grow to more than 1GB, but 32GB sounds silly. 205gb of music is that much really
[14:17] <elbermungsterses> ok, i can do the command, but i can't rename via Nautilus.
[14:17] <mumra1> I'm having some serious issues with X. I have reinstalled to no avail, and reconfigured xserver-xorg. here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53685/. I am trying to get 1440x900 resolution and even if i manually set it in my xorg.conf file, it resets to standard resolutions when i restart.
[14:17] <linxeh> vidsan<EMAIL_ADDRESS>might help
[14:18] <IdleOne> jrib: do you have Systems>Administration>Printing? on gutsy
[14:18] <jrib> elbermungsterses: what is an example of the path to a file you are trying to rename and it fails?
[14:18] <jrib> IdleOne: yes
[14:18] <booncer> any 1 know of a tool for booting pcmcia devices
[14:18] <StrangeCharm> i'm using a fujitsu p7230 laptop which has an sd slot. when i put an sd card that i have lying around into it, the card's fs is immediately mounted, and nautilus opens it. when i insert an mmc, nothing happens, and i don't know how i could mount it manually. how am i likely to be able to get the data off this mmc?
[14:18] <vidsan> linxeh: thx! I'll take a look!
[14:18] <linxeh> StrangeCharm: check what appears in /var/log/messages
[14:19] <IdleOne> jrib: ty
[14:19] <linxeh> StrangeCharm: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages   - then insert the card
[14:19] <Stephen-Mason> hey, how do i connect to shared folders that are on my windows network?
[14:19] <jrib> abhi: well, the man page and home page for xbindkeys have decent docs.  You can see an example xbdindkeys at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse and modify it appropriately for your mouse.  Use 'xev' to figure out the button numbers for the buttons on your mouse
[14:19] <StrangeCharm> linxeh: okay, i'll do that
[14:19] <AutoBahn> oops
[14:20] <AutoBahn> i didnt know it was the same server i just connected to
[14:20] <AutoBahn> :S
[14:20] <abhi> jrib: ok
[14:20] <Kheops_74> If you use a webcam on virtualbox (windows XP guest), join the channel #webcam
[14:21] <jrib> Kheops_74: please don't do that
[14:21] <AutoBahn> i love ubuntu
[14:21] <StrangeCharm> linxeh: i get 'mmcblk0: mmc0:0001<PHONE_NUMBER>0KiB' then on the next line 'mmcblk0: p1'
[14:21] <AutoBahn> my only complaint is my webcam isn't compatible
[14:21] <AutoBahn> otherwise i love it more than my XP
[14:21] <pawan> hi
[14:21] <helllues> !paste
[14:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:21] <Kheops_74> jrib, why?
[14:21] <elbermungsterses> jrib: one example is that i open up Nautilus and go to my home directory. then i try to rename my "wireless-key" file to "test" and it will not let me backspace or anything.
[14:22] <jrib> Kheops_74: because, if it's an ubuntu support issue, resolve it here so that everyone can help and everyone can benefit.  If it's a windows issue, use ##windows.  If you think it's about virtualbox, try #vbox
[14:22] <fibbs> hi all
[14:23] <StrangeCharm> linxeh: so clearly something is happening, because that's the right size
[14:23] <fibbs> I accidently deleted my ~/Desktop directory and gnome showed me all contents of /home/$USER as Desktop. I recreated the directory and looked at gconf-editor under apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir, but it is NOT set. Gnome still shows my home-directory on the desktop
[14:23] <fibbs> any ideas?
[14:23] <jrib> elbermungsterses: ok, what is the output of 'ls -ld ~/wireless-key'?
[14:23] <snador> hallo
[14:23] <jrib> fibbs: try toggling the gconf option on and off
[14:23] <Kheops_74> jrib, Thanks i think it's vbox so i move to this channel
[14:23] <Stephen-Mason> hi anyone know a software similar to dreamweaver for ubuntu?
[14:24] <fibbs> Kheops_74, already did so
[14:24] <snador> wat is de naam van wat in Microsoft Office in tekstvak is in openoffice?
[14:24] <joshwaryan> stephen-Mason: Try GIMP
[14:24] <snador> wat is de naam van wat in Microsoft Office een tekstvak is in openoffice?
[14:24] <joshwaryan> Stephen-Mason: actually, no...GIMP is for graphics
[14:24] <bazhang> textwork?
[14:25] <jrib> !nl | snador
[14:25] <ubotu> snador: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[14:25] <kliklik> Stephen-Mason, try NVU
[14:25] <Stephen-Mason> ok, were would i get that from?
[14:25] <kestir> can I delete a windows install from inside ubuntu and format the partition on which it sits?
[14:25] <jrib> fibbs: was that response for me?
[14:25] <fibbs> jrib, sorry, it was for you
[14:25] <elbermungsterses> ls: ld: No such file or directory : /home/pwang/wireless-key
[14:26] <pawan> hi
[14:26] <th0r> kestir yes
[14:26] <fibbs> i just see in another installation, that there is a .directory file in Desktop/, i will try to copy it over
[14:26] <kmg> why are all my sources timing out when i do apt-get update ?
[14:26] <jrib> elbermungsterses: you forgot the '-'
[14:26] <StrangeCharm> how do i create a new mount point in /media ?
[14:26] <kestir> th0r: gparted?
[14:26] <joshwaryan> I just tried xubuntu with the live CD and it connected to my IMAP server w/o a problem using FF...I just installed the OS and now FF and TB seem to just hang when trying to connect
[14:26] <th0r> kestir I would do it from the command line, but I guess gparted is as good as anything
[14:26] <jrib> StrangeCharm: sudo mkdir /media/NAME_OF_NEW_MOUNT_POINT
[14:26] <StrangeCharm> jrib: thank you
[14:27] <kestir> th0r: ok, thanks
[14:27] <fibbs> brb
[14:27] <elbermungsterses> jrib: ls -ld ~/wireless-key
[14:27] <elbermungsterses> -rw-rw-r-- 1 pwang pwang 51 2007-11-14 21:26 /home/pwang/wireless-key
[14:27] <th0r> kestir edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to remove the entry for windows, then use fdisk (gparted) to change the partition to ext3 and create the file system with mkfs
[14:27] <abhi> jrib: the instruction is for Logitech MX1000. but my mouse is from mercury. what name should i use?
[14:27] <jrib> elbermungsterses: and 'mv ~/wireless-key ~/test' works ok?
[14:28] <elbermungsterses> yes, jrib
[14:28] <Stephen-Mason> hey, urmmmmm..... i have xp installed another partition on my computer is there a way i can run it virtualy within linux? directly from that partition?
[14:28] <ompaul> !away | hmpf|away
[14:28] <ubotu> hmpf|away: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also  !Guidelines
[14:28] <jrib> abhi: as I said, use the xbindkeysrc file posted there as an example only after reading the docs from the man page and home page of the project.  Ask questions if you are unsure what something is doing in that file.
[14:28] <kestir> th0r: doesn't making the partition ext3 in essence create the file system?
[14:28] <StrangeCharm> if i was using a small (32mb) disk under windows, what file-systems might it have used? what options for the fs should i be giving in mount
[14:28] <linduxed> regarding firefox: i want my stuff in my bookmarks folder (both toolbar bookmarks and regular ones) pop up as autocompletion when you type an adress (where recently visited pages come up....or rather come down), how do i achieve that?
[14:29] <abhi> jrib:ok
[14:29] <jrib> elbermungsterses: press "reload" in nautilus and then try renaming the "test" file now
[14:30] <d3ngar> Hi, need assistance with my sound: It's a ICH8 Family, Realtek ALC660-VD, latest ALSA installed, see audio-level displayed on screen, but absolutely no sound otput
[14:30] <d3ngar> output
[14:30] <peabody> would anybody have an idea on how to add an audio track to an avi using mencoder?
[14:30] <elbermungsterses> jrib: it still does not work
[14:31] <pawan> hum apna naam leekar bulane lage tumhe deewane hai aur bhi deewane lage tumhe
[14:31] <flats> !grub
[14:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:32] <jrib> elbermungsterses: does "rename" show up on the right click menu?
[14:32] <th0r> kestir don't think so, but I may be wrong. I always format after creating the partition...just to be safe <smile>
[14:32] <elbermungsterses> yes
[14:32] <Stephen-Mason> is there a virtual pc for linux ?
[14:32] <kmg> why are all my sources timing out when i do apt-get update ?
[14:33] <jrib> !virtualizers > Stephen-Mason (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:33] <d3ngar> No sound on my ICH8 Family, Realtek ALC660-VD, with latest ALSA installed.
[14:33] <bcardarella> What is a good video capture app?
[14:33] <d3ngar> Does anyone know more about getting sound working on laptops?
[14:34] <vkong> hi,my system cound't auto mount the swap ,my fstab is as   below :::/dev/sda5         none   swap          sw           0         0
[14:34] <CHaiNS> could someone look real quick and tell what the default font and size is for gnome-terminal??
[14:34] <d3ngar> bcardarella: where are you at?
[14:34] <syntaxerror55> How do I change the icon of one specific application?
[14:34] <ompaul> Stephen-Mason, you asked the bot that question - so it don't know there is no best, only what you (A) get working and (B) find most useful for the job in hand
[14:34] <syntaxerror55> (6.06 Dapper)
[14:35] <d3ngar> bcardarella: geography wise?
[14:35] <vkong>  hi,my system cound't auto mount the swap ,my fstab is as   below :::/dev/sda5         none   swap          sw           0         0
[14:35] <Stephen-Mason> are they all free? i used vmware in windows to run linux
[14:35] <jrib> Stephen-Mason: yes
[14:35] <ompaul> syntaxerror55, icons exist in several sizes so you need to locate them all, sudo updatedb ; locate application | grep icon << may be useful
[14:35] <bcardarella> d3ngar: us
[14:36] <StrangeCharm> i have a small disk which was being used on a windows system, but i'm having difficulty mounting it with 'sudo mount -t <fs> /dev/<name> /media/mmc' where i've tried every combination of vfat, ntfs, and msdos for <fs> and mmcblk0 or mmcblk0p1 for <name>. what am i doing wrong?
[14:36] <syntaxerror55> ompaul: I can't just use an SVG?
[14:36] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: vmware-server is in the repos; easy to setup
[14:36] <d3ngar> bcardarella: I'm in the UK, but I found this one that I *might* want to get:
[14:36] <d3ngar> bcardarella: hold on digging for link
[14:36] <ompaul> syntaxerror55, even if they are svgs to start with you still have to produce the end of line png / xpms
[14:36] <bcardarella> d3ngar: cool, thanks
[14:37] <Stephen-Mason> can i use an acutal partition or do you have to use a virtual one?
[14:37] <th0r> StrangeCharm name will probably be something like /dev/sdb1 or /dev/hda1
[14:37] <piercleo> I am having a problem reading NBA videos. Just did a clean Gutsy 7.10 Install + installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package + enabled medibuntu repo + installed non free codecs package.
[14:37] <vkong>  hi,my system cound't auto mount the swap ,my fstab is as   below :::/dev/sda5         none   swap          sw           0         0     but  use the command it counld be mounted!  could someone tell me  why
[14:37] <d3ngar> bcardarella: provided you got satellite?
[14:37] <th0r> StrangeCharm  check the 'fdisk -l' command to see what partitions are seen by the system
[14:38] <Stephen-Mason> im getting to like linux :) lol. i hated windows for years, and linux is just getting better, :)
[14:38] <peabody> would anybody have an idea on how to add an audio track to an avi using mencoder?
[14:38] <StrangeCharm> th0r: it's a multimedia card. but i'm goingto check
[14:38] <CHaiNS> could someone look real quick and tell what the default font and size is for gnome-terminal??
[14:38] <syntaxerror55> ompaul: okay.
[14:38] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: virtual
[14:38] <peabody> CHaiNSI: I think it just uses the system default
[14:38] <CHaiNS> yeah,,but I need to know which one
[14:38] <CHaiNS> i have it all messed up
[14:39] <CHaiNS> the fonts that is
[14:39] <d3ngar> bcardarella: bummer, they don't sell them anymore
[14:39] <StrangeCharm> th0r: it seems to have seen mmcblk0 as a disk with mmcblk0p1 on it as fat16 <32M
[14:39] <th0r> StrangeCharm then unplug the media card, open a terminal and type 'tail -f /var/log/messages'. Then plug in the card and watch the terminal...you should see the card being recognized
[14:39] <d3ngar> bcardarella: DVBT seems to be the up- and in thing
[14:39] <vkong> hi ,guys ,which is the  command of copy int the shell ???
[14:39] <CHaiNS> cp = copy
[14:39] <Stephen-Mason> so is there anyway of running a os that is actual installed on another partition in linux?
[14:39] <StrangeCharm> th0r: i did that. it recognised it as mmcblk0 but didn't mount it
[14:39] <puzzle> hello my friends (:
[14:39] <d3ngar> bcardarella: I don't know about you, but I could never find much interest in DVBT
[14:40] <th0r> StrangeCharm check the mount command parameters..if I remember right vfat is fat32
[14:40] <d3ngar> bcardarella: there is another one however, but I think it's nearly 300 quid
[14:40] <StrangeCharm> th0r: it's listed as fat16, and when i try with vfat, it says that i have the wrong fs
[14:40] <bcardarella> d3ngar: that's okay... I'll give this a try
[14:40] <piercleo>  I am having a problem reading NBA videos. Just did a clean Gutsy 7.10 AMD64 Install + installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package + enabled medibuntu repo + installed non free codecs package. Any idea what I am missing ?
[14:41] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: why would one want to do so?
[14:41] <bcardarella> thanks again
[14:41] <th0r> StrangeCharm right...I think vfat is fat32
[14:41] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: as far as I am aware, no; though one could put the vm onto a partition--tricky business though
[14:41] <Stephen-Mason> just to use webcam and not having to restart and boot into windows individualy. and other little things i want to do on windows?
[14:41] <synth> Anyone having success with Ubuntu and RocketRAID 2300s ?
[14:41] <vkong> sorry ,how to copy a word in the terminal by a hot key as   :  Ctrl+c
[14:42] <StrangeCharm> th0r: there doesn't seem to be another 'fat'ish fs listed in the man
[14:42] <th0r> StrangeCharm try 'auto'
[14:42] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: see if it works in vm first before you go trying do that much more technical stuff
[14:42] <StrangeCharm> th0r: 'you must specify a filesystem type'
[14:43] <d3ngar> bcardarella: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140477; http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123725; http://www.ebuyer.com/product/107013
[14:43] <Stephen-Mason> yer just trying to install azureus and download it? how do you install azureus? lol
[14:43] <th0r> StrangeCharm hehe...the only other thing I see in the man page that might work is 'msdos'
[14:43] <vkong>  sorry ,how to copy a word in the terminal by a hot key as   :  Ctrl+c
[14:43] <vkong>  sorry ,how to copy a word in the terminal by a hot key as   :  Ctrl+V
[14:43] <bastid_raZor> !raid > synth
[14:43] <StrangeCharm> i also tried that :(
[14:43] <StrangeCharm> th0r: i also tried that :(
[14:44] <synth> bastid_raZor, whaaaa
[14:44] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: you want to install azureues? sudo apt-get install filename
[14:44] <Stephen-Mason> cool
[14:44] <Stephen-Mason> need to get use to this command line stuff
[14:44] <th0r> StrangeCharm give me a sec
[14:45] <piercleo> I am having a problem reading NBA videos. Just did a clean Gutsy 7.10 AMD64 Install + installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras package + enabled medibuntu repo + installed non free codecs package. Any idea what I am missing ? Any help greatly appreciated, have been searching on the forum over 6 hours, tried many different things and no succes whatsoever, am very sad  !
[14:45] <synth> ah I see the bot now
[14:45] <synth> thanks sir
[14:45] <bazhang> much quicker Stephen-Mason; also apt-cache search name will yiled results for something you may want in the repos
[14:45] <IndyGunFreak> piercleo: flash?
[14:45] <bazhang> yield even
[14:45] <piercleo> yup, all good
[14:46] <piercleo> it's installed and working fine, didn't use the one in the repo, followed the forum guide
[14:46] <Ronald> Restating here cus #kubuntu-kde4 seems dorment:  Running gutsy (gnome variant of it), trying to install parley-kde4 from gutsy-pbackports. Running into most likely the same problem as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdetoys-kde4/+bug/182638. Any clues for a solution ;)?
[14:46] <fibbs> nothing helped
[14:46] <fibbs> i now recreated the user...
[14:46] <th0r> StrangeCharm just pulled the mmc card from my camera and plugged it in...it mounts as vfat
[14:46] <fibbs> and copied over all but .gconf
[14:46] <fibbs> now it works
[14:46] <th0r> StrangeCharm you might just have a corrupted card and need to reformat
[14:47] <Yonie> hey guys, I want to do a programing course, i was thinking of doing my MCSD, but i thought maybe i should do a linux language... does anyone know any good programing courses to do?
[14:47] <StrangeCharm> th0r: that would be most inconvenient
[14:47] <vidsan> Beagle or trckerd?
[14:47] <piercleo> IndyGunFreak: am i missing a codec or something ?
[14:47] <IndyGunFreak> piercleo: looking, hang on
[14:47] <piercleo> IndyGunFreak: thank you very much
[14:48] <bazhang> www.diveintopython.org Yonie
[14:48] <th0r> StrangeCharm  I can pastebin the mount options if you like
[14:48] <IndyGunFreak> piercleo: is it telling you you n eed a plugin, or is it just blank?
[14:48] <bazhang> Ronald: best to wait for folks to wake up there
[14:49] <StrangeCharm> th0r: no, it looks like i've tested them exhaustively
[14:49] <piercleo> IndyGunFreak:  just blank on wat.tv and on nba it freezes on first image
[14:49] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[14:49] <Stephen-Mason> woo its installing im a pro, :P
[14:49] <Seveas> bazhang, apt-get install diveintopython :)
[14:49] <StrangeCharm> th0r: how does one force mount?
[14:49] <bazhang> Seveas: oops!
[14:49] <ompaul> Seveas, sudo apt-get isntall diveintopython
[14:49] <th0r> StrangeCharm I don't think you can force mount...never heard of it being done.
[14:50] <StrangeCharm> th0r: hmn, going to try another comp
[14:50] <th0r> StrangeCharm my card did mount as /dev/mmcblk0p1 just as you said...never noticed that before
[14:50] <Yonie> bazhang, would u rather do Python or c# or c++?
[14:50] <kmg> why are all my sources timing out when i do apt-get update ?
[14:50] <bazhang> Yonie: best to ask Seveas :]
[14:51] <Seveas> python of course :)
[14:51] <Yonie> cool :) thanks
[14:52] <Stephen-Mason> hey i installed azureus but i done know how to use it to open a torrent?
[14:53] <Stephen-Mason> where would it be installed to?
[14:53] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: open the client azureues
[14:53] <Yonie> Seveas, dont u think c++ is better tho?
[14:54] <Seveas> Yonie, no
[14:54] <Seveas> C++ is a spawn of the devil
[14:54] <smallfoot-> i downloaded ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso, is there no i686 version?
[14:54] <Seveas> C# is its bastard grandchild
[14:54] <Stephen-Mason> ? :S where isit? lol
[14:55] <Stephen-Mason> sorry for the noobyness
[14:55] <fonesic> #join ubuntu-fr
[14:55] <fonesic> hum
[14:55] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> i have a windows related question... i know it isnt exactly the best place but im in a pickle and ive googled everywhere
[14:55] <ompaul> fonesic,  /join #ubuntu-fr ;-0
[14:55] <smallfoot-> Metal-Maniac-Mat, #windows
[14:55] <Seveas> !windows | Metal-Maniac-Mat
[14:55] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> ok
[14:55] <ubotu> Metal-Maniac-Mat: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[14:55] <Yonie> Seveas, lol  someone likes microsoft :P
[14:55] <johnathon> Metal-Maniac-Mat shoot
[14:55] <fonesic> ty
[14:55] <StrangeCharm> th0r: well, it looks like i didn't make any mistakes, apparently another system can't mount it either. this is very sad indeed
[14:55] <bazhang> Metal-Maniac-Mat: understatement of the year
[14:55] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> lol
[14:55] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> thnx
[14:55] <fonesic> ompaul, ty ^^
[14:56] <piercleo> IndyGunFreak: still with me ?
[14:56] <ompaul> fonesic, yw
[14:56] <th0r> StrangeCharm have you access to a windows system?
[14:56] <IndyGunFreak> piercleo: yes... i actually got the advertisement to play, but not the video..... thats iinda wierd.
[14:56] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: not sure where gnome keeps its internet stuff-where do you see firefox etc?
[14:56] <StrangeCharm> th0r: yes, that's what i was just checking on
[14:56] <dooglus> where can I find the ubuntu package signing key for feisty?
[14:56] <BadRobot> hi
[14:56] <smallfoot-> i downloaded ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso, is there no i686 version?
[14:56] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak: dreamlinux beta 3
[14:57] <BadRobot> :-D
[14:57] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: what about it?.. ive got the CD here, but not messed w/ it much
[14:57] <th0r> StrangeCharm I assume the card came from a camera and contains pictures...can you plug the camera itself into the computer and maybe mount the card that way?
[14:57] <piercleo> IndyGunFreak:  i use to run 32b and this would happen on certain videos, but at least i got most videos to work, now that am 64b none charges.
[14:57] <Seveas> dooglus, in /etc/apt/ :)
[14:57] <Stephen-Mason> dur, lol sorry lol
[14:57] <bazhang> err 3 beta sorry
[14:57] <dooglus> Seveas: I just installed a feisty chroot.  I need the signing key.
[14:57] <th0r> StrangeCharm I would just want to exhaust ALL options before condemning the pictures to obscurity forever
[14:57] <IndyGunFreak> piercleo: 64bit has its disadvantages in the multimedia issues.
[14:57] <Seveas> dooglus, ubuntu-keyring package iirc
[14:58] <ompaul> th0r, always useful if the device does not show up to move usb ports ... it works sometimes
[14:58] <BadRobot> http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/
[14:58] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: did you download it?
[14:58] <StrangeCharm> th0r: in fact no. it's a small disk that i was being used as a cryptographic token. it contains encryption keys to a defunct server
[14:58] <bentob0x> how do you send a popup message to another user on the same machine?
[14:58] <th0r> ompaul not usb...an mmc card
[14:58] <bentob0x> like net send on windows
[14:58] <Seveas> bentob0x, install a messenger program for both
[14:58] <th0r> StrangeCharm then maybe the whole card is encrypted?
[14:59] <bentob0x> I'm looking more like a warning message
[14:59] <bentob0x> quick popup thing
[14:59] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak: yesh
[14:59] <IndyGunFreak> its not bad.
[14:59] <vidsan> Hi all again! Having trackerd-problems. Getting IO error when trying to run.
[14:59] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: you find it?
[14:59] <bazhang> agreed
[14:59] <StrangeCharm> th0r: well, that would be rather dastardly, i was assuming that it just contained encryption keys in plaintext. but if it's encrypted...
[14:59] <Seveas> bentob0x, fortunately ubuntu doesn't do such annoying things :)
[14:59] <bentob0x> hehe
[14:59] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> geez no1 is answering me in that windows room
[15:00] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> lol
[15:00] <th0r> StrangeCharm just a guess. like I said...I would want to exhaust all options before giving up and reformatting it
[15:00] <bentob0x> how does root warn users that the machine needs to restart?
[15:00] <johnathon> metal maniac mat wat was the room?
[15:00] <Seveas> he does not :)
[15:00] <StrangeCharm> th0r: actually, you may be right. looking through the mounting files, it looks like one of them mounts something into the directory where the other ones look for their keys. i'd ignored it before. the plot thickens
[15:00] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> Windows
[15:00] <Seveas> they'll notice =)
[15:00] <ompaul> Metal-Maniac-Mat, this is not a casual chat room, it is strictly for Ubuntu support
[15:00] <bentob0x> k
[15:00] <dooglus> Seveas: right, thanks.  "sudo apt-key add /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg" did the trick.
[15:00] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: you may want to try something better than azureus; deluge transmission even utorrent under wine are better imo
[15:00] <piercle1> IndyGunFreak: am back had connection pb
[15:00] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> i know ompaul
[15:00] <th0r> StrangeCharm sometimes I get lucky <smile>
[15:00] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> i need help
[15:01] <erUSUL> bentob0x: shutdown -r +5min
[15:01] <IndyGunFreak> piercle1: ok, gonna try one more thing
[15:01] <Metal-Maniac-Mat> and you sent me there and i got no help
[15:01] <bentob0x> k thx guys
[15:01] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com metal and then we can talk
[15:01] <StrangeCharm> th0r: well, most convenient, considering the mount of work that i have already expent trying to get the data off this thin
[15:01] <bazhang> oh too late
[15:01] <erUSUL> bentob0x: that will send notice to all users that the system is going to restart in five minutes and will actually restart the computer ;)
[15:02] <snador> blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
[15:02] <askand> My wireless bluetoothmouse is very sluggish..why can that be?
[15:02] <th0r> StrangeCharm is there the possibility to take it back to where you were using it and get the keys off it from there? maybe put them in  a shared folder...or just copy them to an unencrypted usb drive?
[15:02] <unop> bentob0x, root can use "wall" to advertise to all users that he's about to do something
[15:03] <Stephen-Mason> what is the equivalent command for ipconfig?
[15:03] <bazhang> ifconfig
[15:03] <Stephen-Mason> lol kl
[15:03] <Seveas> unop, erUSUL: that only works for terminals, not X sessions...
[15:03] <StrangeCharm> th0r: that's what it looks like i have to do. mind if i message you the details, they'd clutter the channel a little?
[15:03] <erUSUL> Stephen-Mason: ifconfig or the "all powerfull and also cryptic" ip
[15:03] <th0r> StrangeCharm not registered...no pm. good luck
[15:03] <pawan> hello
[15:04] <unop> Seveas, errm, yes, i'm aware :)
[15:04] <erUSUL> Seveas: i long for the good old VT102 days ;)
[15:04] <Gpalco> Hallo, I did something to Xubuntu settings that ""xfce4-session"" stopped loading by default. I have to start it manually. How can I make it load automatically. What do I use for that ??????
[15:04] <ompaul> Gpalco, have a chat in #xubuntu they know more about that
[15:05] <kmg> why are all my sources timing out when i do apt-get update ?
[15:05] <Gpalco> ompaul, I wished they would also be more active as well
[15:05] <StrangeCharm> th0r: in a nutshell, then, this is a windows system that looks like it has an array which was encrypted using a program called truecrypt. the data disks were mounted using some batch files. the start of one of them seems to create the fs for the others. however, the key neccessary to decrypt *this* disk is sadly absent :(
[15:05] <ompaul> Gpalco, well they are there at times that suit them, just like the gnome heads here
[15:05] <smallfoot-> they should make ubuntu for i686, nobody have i386 anymore
[15:06] <Stephen-Mason> my nat is firewalled? been having this problem for ages can anyone help?
[15:06] <erUSUL> kmg: problems on the mirror you are using?
[15:06] <ompaul> smallfoot-, the right kernel is loaded after that - you got to understand you start somewhere and move forward from there
[15:06] <th0r> StrangeCharm I am familiar with truecrypt...there is a version for linux as well and the files are interchangable...I used to use it but switched to linux only encfs
[15:06] <Seveas> smallfoot-, ubuntu is actually i586 since there still are processors which lack the cmov instruction
[15:06] <kmg> erUSUL: it's like every single one
[15:06] <erUSUL> Stephen-Mason: nat firwalled does not parse for me. Can you explain it a little more?
[15:07] <th0r> StrangeCharm if you know the passphrase it should be possible to mount the partitions from within linux
[15:07] <Switch^> can you run .pl files with sh?
[15:07] <l3ttuc3>  i keep getting messages like so in my kern.log and syslog: Jan 27 18:55:33 laptop kernel: [  781.860000] Unknown OutputIN= OUT=vmnet1 SRC=<IP_ADDRESS> DST=<IP_ADDRESS> LEN=258 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=138 DPT=138 LEN=238
[15:07] <Seveas> Switch^, no
[15:07] <Seveas> you run them with perl
[15:07] <bazhang> Stephen-Mason: www.portforward.com
[15:07] <Switch^> thanks Seveas
[15:07] <Seveas> l3ttuc3, that's iptables logging packets