[12:54] <Protag> obviously I "mv" it, but whenever I do it's saying the folder doesn't exist- because it has a quetion mark or spaces in it I suppose
[12:54] <Fyr> use slashes "\ ", "\?"
[12:55] <wzi7369> Protag: mv ./chriss<TAB> hdd
[12:55] <Fyr> mv hdd\ drive
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Protag, directory name with spaces?  no.  perhaps 'name here' or name_here
[12:55] <Protag> yeah I obviously botched the naming of it at some point
[12:56] <Protag> but when i try to do tab completion I get two files listed: chriss_old_harddrive             sudo mkdir chriss_old_harddrive
[12:57] <wzi7369> Protag: maybe it looks like two names, could it be one name with spaces?
[12:59] <Protag> well that's where I'm puzzled. when i "ls" it's just one big file called "chriss_old_harddrive?sudo mkdir chriss_old_harddrive"
[13:01] <wzi7369> Protag: is it the only entry in the directory beginning with "chriss_old"?
[13:01] <Protag> yup
[13:01] <wzi7369> Protag: then you may try  mv chriss_old* hdd
[13:01] <blaaa> Protag: can you pipe the ls output into some program which allows you to look at the bits?
[13:02] <Protag> oh of course! ok let me see
[13:02] <lubuntu_swap> :(
[13:02] <Protag> that worked! thank yoU!
[13:02] <wzi7369> Protag: yw
[13:03] <lubuntu_swap> Hi I've a weird problem: Trying to start my lubuntu machine as every morning, got stuck at booting "/dev/mapper/lubuntu--vg-swap_1 not ready". Already waiting half an hour but nothing happens. What happened to my system?  Booting into rescue mode could help do this. Later, when system boots properly, you can manually try to mount swap.
[13:09] <DJJeff> not sure
[13:09] <DJJeff> vlc media player plays sound just fine
[13:10] <DJJeff> where as firefox + flash it stutters like shit
[13:10] <DJJeff> and steam for ubuntu has sound issues as well
[13:10] <lubuntu_swap> dharmit: so comment out every swap partition in fstab right?
[13:10] <DJJeff> I did apt-get purge of both alsa and pulseaudio rebooted reinstalled and still have issues
[13:11] <dharmit> lubuntu_swap: Every swap partition? I never heard of more than one swap partition.
[13:11] <shakuev> всем привет
[13:11] <lubuntu_swap> dharmit: but there is vg-swap_1 and cryptswap in there, so i gues sboth?
[13:13] <DJJeff> it could be how flash player works with alsa that is the problem
[13:13] <DJJeff> # rm -rf /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[13:13] <DJJeff> it falls back to html5 for youtube
[13:13] <DJJeff> and sound is fine
[13:13] <DJJeff> reinstall flashplugin-installer
[13:14] <DJJeff> and sound is yet again garbage
[13:14] <dharmit> lubuntu_swap: I am more of a fedora guy. Never heard of cryptswap so can't comment on it.
[13:14] <lubuntu_swap> dharmit: haha so better switch then :D
[13:14] <dharmit> lubuntu_swap: Hopefully soon. :D
[13:18] <elmaestro> guys, am stuck and frustrated, creating a virtual host after installing apache 2 but am not getting any luck, ideas?
[13:18] <hateball> elmaestro: maybe in #httpd
what do u mean?
[13:19] <SirLagz> elmaestro: he meant maybe ask that question in #httpd
 can i access that chatroom without logging out of this one?
[13:20] <SirLagz> elmaestro: yes, /j #httpd
[13:25] <White_Cat> is there an easy(er) way to setup a local smtp server
[13:26] <HFSPLUS> !ops
[13:26] <pbx> White_Cat, easier than what? what have you tried?
[13:27] <fridaynext> can drives spin down to standby mode if I'm connected via SMB (not reading/writing, though)?
[13:27] <moldy> of course
[13:28] <jnhghy> how do I disable mouse movement in when hover over terminal? (I can work with mouse disabled all together in terminal window)
[13:28] <White_Cat> pbx no I havent tried anything
[13:28] <White_Cat> all it needs to do is send emails not recieve it
[13:28] <White_Cat> and it only needs to work on localhost
[13:28] <White_Cat> is there something basic for that?
[13:29] <fridaynext> moldy: so how can i research what's keeping the drives spinning after five minutes (my spindown time)?
[13:30] <lumia900> how to add my ubuntu to workgroup ?
[13:32] <spiritsack> Has anyone else experienced issued where Eclipse says ports 80 and 443 are in use by something else, but when I do netsat -pan nothing are using those ports?
[13:32] <mert> heyy
[13:32] <mert> where you frm
[13:32] <cfhowlett> mert, this is ubuntu support.  not socializing.  ask your support questions
[13:32] <ilhami> lol
[13:33] <spiritsack> Please correct me if this is not the right place to ask.
[13:33] <fridaynext> Ah, I just read that my WD Red drives don't support APM, so they won't spin down with the hdparm settings I've enabled.
[13:34] <cfhowlett> spiritsack, right place to ask.  patience.  maybe someone knows.
[13:34] <spiritsack> thanks
[13:34] <pbx> lumia900, give more context.
[13:35] <swatti> i have a lenovo y510p(SLI nv 755m) notebook and install ubuntu 14.04, next install nvidia driver, but restart and black screen pulse cursor
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | swatti
[13:35] <swatti> ok ty
[13:36] <spiritsack> I have just started participating on a java webapp where I work. To get it working I have to set tomcat to use 443 instead of 8443. But when I try to run the project I get an error saying the port is in use by something else
[13:36] <DJones> swatti: Which nvidia driver did you install, I've got a y510p, with 14.04 I used nvidia-prime and it worked straight off without issue
[13:37] <m00nk1n> swatti: if previous comments doesnt' help - check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/239707/ideapad-z580-wont-boot-kernels-above-3-2-0-32/353999#353999
[13:37] <spiritsack> 8080 and 8433 doesnt give an error though, but the webapp doesnt work
[13:37] <m00nk1n> swatti: i have similar problem on several lenovo notebooks
[13:37] <sagat> bom dia
[13:38] <sagat> alguem ai sabe me dizer oque fazer para o meu ubuntu 14.10 ficar mais rapido
[13:38] <sagat> a maquina que eu uso é muito boa
[13:38] <cfhowlett> !es | sagat
[13:38] <sagat> quad core
[13:38] <DJones> !pt | sagat
[13:39] <pbx> good catch DJones
[13:39] <zymm> so I'm banging my head against the wall with jack. any can help?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> DJones, impessive
[13:39] <cfhowlett> *impressive*
[13:39] <DJones> cfhowlett: So's google translate :)
[13:39] <cfhowlett> zymm, jack has that effect.  ask in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians
[13:40] <zymm> thankx.
[13:41] <swatti> DJones m00nk1n ty
[13:42] <m00nk1n> swatti: and if that doesn't help and your notebook will delays on boot - use rpm-based distro
[13:42] <OHMYBUDDHA> testing
[13:42] <OerHeks> m00nk1n, rpm based distro ?
[13:42] <OerHeks> lolz
[13:45] <SohamG> In the 'software and updates' tool of ubuntu studio 14, i have enabled every source still my additional drivers is empty and the nvidia drivers i am looking for are not there. How do i fix this?
[13:46] <OerHeks> SohamG, what videocard do you have? open terminal: lspci | grep VGA # and paste that line(s) here
[13:47] <SohamG> I have the gtx 750ti (galaxy) : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2)
[13:47] <SohamG> OerHeks, ^
[13:48] <veleno> hello. i’ve this issue strange issue: i’ve deleted a directory, but somehow the files seems to stil take disk space: https://gist.github.com/vschiavoni/b69a429ee4da1220ec9d
[13:48] <veleno> in the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[13:50] <cfhowlett> veleno, empty the .trash
[13:50] <OerHeks> SohamG, you need the nvidia 343 driver, add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:50] <veleno> cfhowlett: from command line ?
[13:50] <OerHeks> SohamG, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/469377/cant-install-ubuntu-14-04-shows-black-screen-gtx-750-ti
[13:51] <SohamG> thanks OerHeks ill do that
[13:51] <Samuraicat> Trying to assist my mother with her laptop (I'm not there so makes it difficult)
[13:51] <cfhowlett> veleno, yep.  sudo rm -rf trash:///          I THINK
[13:52] <Samuraicat> She was installing an update the other day and the update froze
[13:52] <Samuraicat> She restarted the laptop and freezes at ubuntu splash screen
[13:52] <lumia900> pbx as am tring to make my ubuntu as file server in office .. so office on WORKGROUP
[13:52] <Samuraicat> Anything we can do? She can pull up the terminal window.
[13:53] <lumia900> so with out adding a additional host all my workstation need to access the ubuntu server
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !server | lumia900,
[13:53] <lumia900> whats the possible place i need to make the WORKGROUP = XXXXXX
[13:53] <OerHeks> Samuraicat, try this in  in terminal:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:55] <swatti> add nomodeset ... but nothing :D
[13:55] <lumia900> ubuntu adding to WORKGROUP
[13:55] <lumia900> help!
[13:55] <AlexPortable> Ubuntu 10.04 had the ability to press alt+printscreen+k to log out if something froze
[13:56] <AlexPortable> whats the equivalent on 14.04?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> !patience | lumia900
[13:56] <SohamG> OerHeks : still nothing showing up....
[13:56] <lumia900> lol
[13:58] <OerHeks> SohamG, just run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-343
[13:58] <OerHeks> and reboot i guess
[13:58] <Samuraicat> OerHeks : she did that and it said "processing halted, there was too many errors"
[13:58] <SohamG> OerHeks : it says unable to locate package
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Samuraicat, not good.  reinstall may be the only cure.
[14:00] <aneks> Hey guys, does anyone know how I can fix this? http://pastebin.com/ZssgSkrh
[14:00] <gthank> Does logrotate make any guarantees about whether a log can be rotated in the middle of a line?
[14:00] <Samuraicat> cfhowlett: Thanks. That's what I'm trying to avoid!
[14:00] <Samuraicat> cfhowlett: but if that what it take's, oh well.
[14:01] <SohamG> OerHeks
[14:01] <hateball> aneks: is it a removable media with NTFS filesystem
[14:01] <SohamG> thats not working
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Samuraicat, I know.  on the upside: she's already got partitions.  resinstalling *might* not be overly complicated if you are very patient ...and have a good skype/phone line ...
[14:01] <hateball> aneks: and what are you trying to acheive/solve
[14:01] <aneks> hateball: it's a hard drive that I use for data
[14:02] <aneks> hateball: I'm trying to change permissions on it, but for some reason root is the owner and it shouldn't be
[14:02] <hateball> aneks: Well is it an ext* filesystem?
[14:02] <tony_psy> Hey guys, I just installed ubuntu 14.04 server and when I log in as root and "ls" it doesnt show a home folder. When I adduser it also doesnt show a home folder like my ubuntu desktop. Am I doing something wrong?
[14:02] <aneks> hateball: it's an ntfs file system
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !server | tony_psy
[14:03] <Samuraicat> Thanks all!
[14:03] <hateball> aneks: Yes, and you cant change perms on ntfs with chown. As you can see it is mounted with 777 so everyone can alter it. Still not sure what problem you are trying to solve
[14:04] <aneks> hateball: how can I change permissions on it or change user and group owner from root to my own username?
[14:05] <Surendil> chgrp
[14:05] <hateball> aneks: you can mount it with options that set it to your user. it is already 777 so anyone can edit stuff on it anyhow
[14:06] <hateball> aneks: if you want to apply linux permissions, you need a linux native filesystem
[14:06] <aneks> hateball: the reason being is that my torrents download into a folder on that drive and they won't save, saying permission denied. If it's 777 should be able to work
[14:07] <ThePendulum> So, uh... My desktop environment is gone, probably due a faulty python removal last night
[14:07] <ThePendulum> Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity
[14:07] <revan> selam
[14:08] <ThePendulum> Is there any way to get it back properly or would a complete reinstall probably be the most effortless at this point?
[14:08] <Surendil> aneks: as hateball said, you can mount the drive with wr options, if you want to change permissions chgrp user.user -R /mountpoint
[14:09] <Surendil> ThePendulum: if you have /home on other partition, yes
[14:09] <BSzalai> hi
[14:09] <ThePendulum> Surendil: I don't, but there's nothing interesting in /home for me
[14:09] <BSzalai> anyone can help why my Krusader file manager runs only in root mode? in normal mode it hangs out
[14:09] <ThePendulum> In fact, I could back up if there is any
[14:10] <Surendil> sorry, misread the question..
[14:10] <ThePendulum> It's just the GUI and a ton of applications that are gone
[14:10] <Surendil> ThePendulum: try apt-get install -f
[14:10] <aneks> Surendil: I know how to change group ownership but chgrp igor -R doesn't fix it, it's still owned by root
[14:10] <Surendil> might do the trick, if not, reinstall is your bests option
[14:10] <ThePendulum> Surendil: Says there's nothing to change
[14:10] <Surendil> aneks: chgrp igor.igor
[14:11] <ThePendulum> No command to have Ubuntu check its own integrity and see if there's anything fundamental missing?
[14:11] <aneks> Surendil: chgrp only changes the group ownership, chgrp igor.igor isn't a valid command
[14:11] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, check the .iso you download, check the USB you make the .iso
[14:11] <AlexPortable> Any way I can disable the animation when minimizing a window?
[14:12] <Surendil> AlexPortable: compiz settings usually
[14:12] <goffaux> bonjour
[14:12] <ThePendulum> cfhowlett: I mean to have an installed Ubuntu compare itself to a fresh iso and install what's missing. Basically a partial fresh install without removing what's already on there
[14:12] <Surendil> aneks: then check your /etc/groups file and use the right one
[14:13] <cfhowlett> ThePendulum, if you mean verify installation of programs only, sure.  a script to run dpkg -l and compare against the .iso manifest ...
[14:14] <ThePendulum> cfhowlett: Hmpf, I'll boot into Windows and make myself a fresh flash with Ubuntu, probably the safest.
[14:15] <ThePendulum> And a huge post-it on my screen to -never- remove something from python
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | ThePendulum, yep.  but do the check the .iso and usb ... for sanity
[14:15] <AlexPortable> Surendil: yes but where in compiz settings, can't find it
[14:16] <Surendil> gnome, kde or xfce?
[14:18] <AlexPortable> unity
[14:18] <AlexPortable> I meant the animation the left bar
[14:18] <kubuntu89fux> AlexPortable: try ubuntutweak
[14:22] <AlexPortable> kubuntu89fux: can't find it there either
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  what do you want to do
[14:24] <AlexPortable> when i minimize a window, i get an animation poping up in the unity left bar
[14:24] <AlexPortable> but this distracts me
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/138622/how-to-disable-all-unity-animations#169634
[14:30] <AlexPortable> "I assume you are talking about the naimations where the launcher blurs"
[14:30] <AlexPortable> no
[14:45] <Qadri>
[14:49] <AlexPortable> Any way I can disable the animation in the unity bar when minimizing a window?
[14:51] <Andres2> helo i have 1 o mor problems.
[14:51] <Andres2> 1 need repair grub but required a live-usb
[14:51] <Andres2> 2 the usb live say failed to load com32 file menu.c32 (search in google and say " copy file in to root usb" but don work)
[14:51] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/386651/how-can-i-turn-off-animations-in-ubuntu-13-10 also for 14.04/14.10 , install unity-tweak
[14:51] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, ^^
[14:52] <Andres2> unetbin dont write,download files ...
[14:52] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: nope, still shows the animation
[14:53] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, maybe you need to logout/login to make it work
[14:53] <AlexPortable> i did
[14:53] <OerHeks> works here
[14:53] <AlexPortable> still shows the minimize animation in the unity bar
[14:57] <AlexPortable> Also in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  sunny weather in Sillicon Valley, i guess
[14:58] <AlexPortable> ?
[15:00] <squinty> Andres2:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/unetbootin/+bug/1190256  seems there is some current info there
[15:01] <Andres2> i say ... copy files and don work
[15:02] <White_Cat> I can't ping google.com (unknown host). But I can ping IP addresses.
[15:02] <White_Cat> why could this be?
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  that's a adns issue
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> White_Cat  that's a a dns issue
[15:03] <White_Cat> well, how can i fix it
[15:03] <White_Cat> how can I specify fns?
[15:03] <White_Cat> *dns
[15:03] <tuannvps01907> a
[15:03] <White_Cat> I can just configure it to <IP_ADDRESS> but I dont know how
[15:04] <daftykins> White_Cat: does this problem persist after a reboot?
[15:04] <White_Cat> yes
[15:05] <daftykins> White_Cat: what type of computer is this? how do you connect to the internet?
[15:06] <fa7ad> #ajenti
[15:06] <squinty> Andres2:  then use the dd method or check out pendrivelinux.com for alternate methods/software.
[15:06] <White_Cat> daedeloth its a hyper-v machine
[15:06] <White_Cat> it connects through lan
[15:06] <White_Cat> there is internet on the lan and the computer can connect to ips
[15:06] <fa7ad> somebody walk me through on how to get openvpn to work with ajenti please
[15:09] <squinty> fa7ad:  there is #openvpn channel here on freenode
[15:10] <daftykins> White_Cat: ok you can resolve DNS by first removing the package resolvconf, then rebooting, then put the line "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" into /etc/resolv.conf
[15:12] <acerspyro> As a follow-up to the question I asked yesterday, I can't alt tab out of fullscreen GLX or SDL applications. Blender uses GLX, and pretty much all games use SDL.
[15:13] <acerspyro> But I have no idea what causes some apps to display in the wrong position when maximized.
[15:13] <AlexPortable> Also in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\
[15:13] <AlexPortable> Any way I can disable the animation in the unity bar when minimizing a window?
[15:14] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Compiz settings
[15:14] <acerspyro> You need to install an application for that tho
[15:14] <AlexPortable> where in compiz settings?
[15:15] <acerspyro> Nowhere, you need to install it
[15:15] <acerspyro> Because, who knows, somebody didn't want users to figure out how to change advanced settings without a Google...
[15:16] <AlexPortable> I've spent a couple of hours googling
[15:16] <AlexPortable> Tried several tools
[15:16] <acerspyro> I spent two minutes, but that's just me, because I knew what Compiz was.
[15:17] <AlexPortable> you mean ccsm?
[15:17] <acerspyro> compizconfig
[15:17] <acerspyro> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:18] <acerspyro> I wonder why the sudo command isn't implied when you run apt-get...
[15:18] <AlexPortable> and then launch compizconfig?
[15:18] <White_Cat> daftykins how can I remove the package? sudo apt-get uninstall resolvconf ?
[15:18] <acerspyro> Uh, type "compiz" and press tab
[15:18] <daftykins> apt-get remove resolvconf
[15:18] <daftykins> White_Cat: ^
[15:18] <White_Cat> ah remove
[15:19] <daftykins> White_Cat: why is it a hyper-V host, are you in education?
[15:19] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: compiz or compiz-decorator ?
[15:19] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Did you install it%
[15:19] <acerspyro> ?*
[15:19] <AlexPortable> yes
[15:19] <AlexPortable> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:19] <White_Cat> daftykins because I am testing something
[15:19] <acerspyro> compizconfig
[15:19] <White_Cat> live server will come later
[15:19] <AlexPortable> compizconfig: command not found
[15:20] <White_Cat> in the meanwhile I dont want to spend all my time next to the water cooler looking like an idiot :)
[15:20] <acerspyro> http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2756/ubuntu_install_compiz_config_settings_manager_configure_desktop_effects/
[15:20] <daftykins> White_Cat: water cooler 0o
[15:20] <AlexPortable> ok found it
[15:20] <AlexPortable> it was in the start menu
[15:20] <White_Cat> it cools water :p
[15:20] <acerspyro> >Start menu
[15:20] <acerspyro> What's a start menu?
[15:20] <AlexPortable> the button you press to start applications
[15:20] <White_Cat> its the button that existed since the 90s
[15:21] <AlexPortable> left top corner
[15:21] <acerspyro> You can'T access your computer when it's turned off, how could you have a menu to start it? :P
[15:21] <White_Cat> it exists in windows and ubuntu desktop
[15:21] <AlexPortable> it doesn't starts hardware
[15:21] <AlexPortable> it starts software
[15:21] <AlexPortable> how can you access a menu when your computer is turned off?
[15:21] <White_Cat> acerspyro 'd appreciate if you dont confuse people asking for help more :p
[15:21] <acerspyro> White_Cat: It's not a start button
[15:21] <AlexPortable> what is it then?
[15:21] <acerspyro> It's the Unity button
[15:21] <AlexPortable> a shutdown button?
[15:22] <AlexPortable> and in windows 8 it's the metro / modern ui button
[15:22] <AlexPortable> and on windows 7 it was the start button
[15:22] <acerspyro> Yeah whatevs
[15:22] <AlexPortable> and on mac os it's finder button
[15:22] <AlexPortable> w/e
[15:22] <White_Cat> acerspyro, and your seat cussion cant be used as a flotation device either but you do not see me complaining
[15:22] <acerspyro> Unity button.
[15:22] <AlexPortable> anyway
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> it'sz called HUD in Unity
[15:22] <AlexPortable> how do I disable the unity minimize animation?
[15:23] <AlexPortable> i clicked unity in compizconfig
[15:23] <White_Cat> there is a module for that IIRC but I never used it
[15:23] <acerspyro> Also, title bars disappear during animation, is this normal?
[15:23] <White_Cat> rather I always use ubuntu-server
[15:23] <White_Cat> no UI :/
[15:24] <webb1wd> hello guys.I have a problem which i think is small for you.I installed a new hdd on my ubuntu pc.I changed the sata ports of the hdd,on the motherboard.The first time i power on the pc i got stuck on the listing pci devices screen(its an old cpc)
[15:24] <daftykins> *GUI not UI ;)
[15:24] <daftykins> webb1wd: change them back
[15:24] <webb1wd> then i went to bios and changed order to boot from and it worked allright
[15:24] <AlexPortable> also i don't mean window animation
[15:24] <AlexPortable> i mean animation poping up in the left bar
[15:25] <webb1wd> thanks daftykins for your answer,i have already slolved this problem and i thought i might be important for the upcoming problem.
[15:26] <webb1wd> now i get to ubuntu to startup and i get "Gave up waiting for root device error"
[15:26] <daftykins> webb1wd: ok, i shall wait for the actual question
[15:26] <msingh_> #zinc
[15:26] <daftykins> webb1wd: so did you have adisk with an old install, then you plugged in the new one and installed a clean ubuntu to that new disk?
[15:26] <acerspyro> msingh_: nup, u phail, try again.
[15:27] <daftykins> acerspyro: don't make useless comments
[15:27] <acerspyro> D: you guys have no sense of humor.
[15:27] <webb1wd> daftykins i just added a new disk,it says smthng about uuid.
[15:27] <acerspyro> >This is not a channel for humor
[15:27] <daftykins> webb1wd: so the new disk is storage only?
[15:27] <acerspyro> Then it's lifeless
[15:28] <AlexPortable> Also in ubuntu everything is faded it seems, windows is more sharp. why is this?\
[15:28] <webb1wd> daftykins yes,untouched
[15:28] <daftykins> acerspyro: we do, but the place for stupid chatter is in #ubuntu-offtopic - this channel is for support only. so please buck up
[15:28] <webb1wd> daftykins maybe tell it to see for another uuid ?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> AlexPortable  in windows everything is more sharp, why is this?
[15:28] <acerspyro> Hrm. That channel is the toughest channel I've seen on Freenode. So seriopus it's inhuman, but w/e
[15:28] <daftykins> webb1wd: did the SATA cable juggling involve moving the OS disk away from being in a more primary port number?
[15:29] <AlexPortable> MonkeyDust: thanks for rephrasing my question
[15:29] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: What do you mean it's "more sharp"?
[15:29] <acerspyro> It happens faster?
[15:29] <AlexPortable> no
[15:29] <AlexPortable> on ubuntu it's like someone put something on my screen
[15:29] <webb1wd> daftykins im not sure mate.
[15:29] <daftykins> sounds like it's not running at your screen's native resolution
[15:29] <acerspyro> ?
[15:30] <AlexPortable> it is
[15:30] <AlexPortable> 1366x768
[15:30] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Are you sure?
[15:30] <AlexPortable> yes
[15:30] <acerspyro> It looks sharp here, pixel for pixel
[15:30] <webb1wd> <daftykins i did so i could get the cables better organised.
[15:30] <daftykins> webb1wd: if you boot a live session you can check your UUIDs versus what's in your /etc/fstab file to see if they need updating
[15:30] <daftykins> webb1wd: there's no reason they should have changed though
[15:30] <acerspyro> webb1wd: Please start typing the username, and then press tab instead of copy-pasting their name.
[15:31] <webb1wd> acerspyro: ok
[15:31] <AlexPortable> windows is just more crisp
[15:31] <webb1wd> daftykins: thanks i will now burn a dvd.
[15:31] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: imho, it's ugly.
[15:31] <AlexPortable> so?
[15:32] <daftykins> webb1wd: ISO on a flash drive would be nicer if you have any :)
[15:32] <acerspyro> And that's how Windows is. Crisp.
[15:32] <daftykins> AlexPortable: maybe you can take pictures, i don't understand what you mean at all, nor does anyone else it seems
[15:32] <acerspyro> It's an art style. So is Ubuntu's fade effects.
[15:32] <webb1wd> daftykins: my computer is too old for that :S.i have tried it im not sure why it doesnt boot it,its a 2005 pc.
[15:33] <daftykins> webb1wd: ah - do you remember which ubuntu version you have on there?
[15:33] <AlexPortable> hmm i need something i can compare
[15:33] <webb1wd> daftykins: yes 14.04
[15:33] <daftykins> webb1wd: good stuff.
[15:34] <daftykins> webb1wd: i'll be back shortly, if you're ready in the meantime just ask the channel that you want to compare UUIDs to /etc/fstab if you need more assistance :)
[15:34] <squinty> webb1wd:  fwiw, if your unit won't boot from usb then you might consider burning a "plop" cd which when booted first will allow the computer to boot from usb.  http://www.plop.at/en/home.html
[15:35] <Pinkie_Pylon> hi guys, having problems with sama
[15:35] <Pinkie_Pylon> samba*
[15:36] <webb1wd> squinty: wow!thanks very much i never knew about that ill certainly try it.
[15:36] <SchrodingersScat> my problem with samba is normally windows
[15:36] <Pinkie_Pylon> i think it's ubuntu in this case actually
[15:36] <Pinkie_Pylon> i have a share set up using the built-in nautilus local network share tool on my LAN
[15:36] <acerspyro> Pinkie_Pylon: Ask a real question, not an affirmation
[15:37] <AlexPortable> daftykins: http://img.nl.eu.org/EiYUpW.png
[15:37] <Pinkie_Pylon> well, can I link my askubuntu question?
[15:37] <AlexPortable> left = ubuntu, right = windows
[15:37] <AlexPortable> there is some blur over ubuntu
[15:37] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Emulator?
[15:37] <acerspyro> You could have said it, that's why, it's in no way Ubuntu'S fault.
[15:38] <ansivirus> AlexPortable, not gonna lie, I don't really see blur..
[15:38] <acerspyro> Neither do I
[15:38] <AlexPortable> what do you mean emulator?
[15:38] <daftykins> AlexPortable: it's a different level of sub pixel rendering, look into whether you can tweak it. i have no idea
[15:38] <AlexPortable> the left it's not sharp
[15:38] <acerspyro> If you like, you can change the antialiasing style for the font
[15:38] <AlexPortable> while the text on the right is
[15:39] <acerspyro> Depends on your monitor.
[15:39] <bahax> hi, is there a way to make apt-get tell me from which source it's going to install a specific package?
[15:39] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: well, i made a screenshot on windows, and one on ubuntu, and then moved them to the same machine
[15:39] <Pinkie_Pylon> here is my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/543634/problems-with-folder-permissions-using-samba
[15:39] <AlexPortable> so how does that depends on my monitor or system?
[15:39] <OerHeks> i guess that window is buzy, AlexPortable, just be patient
[15:39] <AlexPortable> buzy?
[15:39] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Ok, still, all you have to do is change your font antialiasing style
[15:40] <daftykins> AlexPortable: myself and acerspyro have already told you what's up.
[15:40] <AlexPortable> acerspyro:  how?
[15:40]  * acerspyro googles for someone else again
[15:41] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: http://superuser.com/questions/819535/what-exactly-is-the-difference-between-grayscale-and-rgba-font-anti-aliasing
[15:41] <acerspyro> look at that GUI, it's in the Compiz settings menu
[15:41] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: did you create this other user prior to creating an smb password for it?
[15:42] <P-NuT> Anyone getting this? http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=7801
[15:42] <Pinkie_Pylon> shouldn't have to on 14.04 IIRC but yes, it's a unix user with the same password as the smb user
[15:42] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: and none of these systems are in homegroups on Windows? those break things
[15:42] <OerHeks> P-NuT, CentOS is not supported here.
[15:43] <Pinkie_Pylon> checking the logs for the second user I'm getting permission denied when they tried to access the folder, which is hosted in /media/james/shared
[15:43] <Pinkie_Pylon> what command can I use to give everyone read and write access to that folder?
[15:43] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: you've added both users to a group, chown'd that path to the group and allowed relevant permissions yes?
[15:44] <AlexPortable> acerspyro:  greyscale / rgb doesn't really matters
[15:44] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: try other options
[15:44] <acerspyro> *checks what Windows is using*
[15:44] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, i'm a bit crap with unix so bear with me. the unix user is in the group sambashare
[15:44] <Pinkie_Pylon> i'm just wondering if there is a unix command I can give to allow everyone access to the /shared folder
[15:45] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: pastebin the output of "ls -al /path/shared"
[15:45] <Pinkie_Pylon> this is on a home LAN anyway so not much risk
[15:45] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, will do
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> is there a GUI for upstart system services?
[15:45] <squinty> Pinkie_Pylon:  might want to consider installing and checking out   system-config-samba
[15:45] <geirha> Pinkie_Pylon: add all users you consider "everyone" to that group. Do NOT make it world writable
[15:45] <daftykins> first off stop saying unix :P, second - it'd be samba that can share as guest only, not permissions
[15:45] <rashkov> Anyone know what purpose dnsmasq serves in Ubuntu? It seems like it could be used as a DHCP server or for DNS caching. However DHCP isn't configured and its DNS cache is turned off. It seems to have something to do with NetworkManager but I don't know what purpose it would serve there.
[15:45] <White_Cat> Mail delivery failed via SMTP server 'localhost'.
[15:45] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: ^
[15:45] <White_Cat> is this normal?
[15:46] <White_Cat> I am using sudo apt-get install postfix
[15:47] <Pinkie_Pylon> http://pastebin.com/vJKh29VM
[15:47] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: which other options?
[15:47] <acerspyro> idk not on my computer right now
[15:47] <acerspyro> :D
[15:48] <AlexPortable> ah
[15:48] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Go explore and figure it out?
[15:48] <AlexPortable> ok
[15:48] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/vJKh29VM
[15:48] <AlexPortable> when installing ubuntu, do i have to choose UEFI or BIOS?
[15:48] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: yeah so you've got a permission and group mess there
[15:48] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Depends on your BIOS type
[15:49] <Pinkie_Pylon> thought as much, resulted from failed attempts to grant access
[15:49] <acerspyro> Newer computers usually use UEFI
[15:49] <acerspyro> if you don't pick the right one, it usually won't boot
[15:49] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, thought so. is there a command that will soft it out?
[15:49] <average> http://i.imgur.com/o9hbYA9.jpg
[15:49] <acerspyro> Oh, another question, is it possible to do BIOS upgrades under Linux?
[15:49] <average> that's really probably the worst photo I've seen
[15:49] <acerspyro> average: lol
[15:49] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: add your two users to a group, chown the path with that group, then set the group permissions to allow read and write as appropriate
[15:50] <OerHeks> wrong channel, average
[15:50] <average> OerHeks: i won't insist on that picture..
[15:50] <acerspyro> average: Run, people be gettin' mad!
[15:50] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: first up "sudo chown -R user:group /media/james/shared" would bea good start
[15:50] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: well i have both
[15:50] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: ?
[15:50] <average> acerspyro: i'm not running
[15:50] <AlexPortable> i can choose between uefi and bios boot
[15:50] <average> acerspyro: so did you see the pic. did you like it ?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> !ot | average
[15:51] <OerHeks> !ot > average
[15:51] <daftykins> average: you're off topic, leave please.
[15:51] <acerspyro> haha
[15:51] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: in your BIOS, you mean?
[15:51] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, done
[15:51] <average> well, if you say it's so.. i guess i have to pack my bags and go
[15:52] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: you substituted 'user' and 'group' appropriately yeah?
[15:52] <acerspyro> jack: We clearly saw that
[15:52] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: in the multiboot selection menu
[15:52] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: In Ubuntu?
[15:52] <AlexPortable> no in my computer
[15:52] <Guest20817> daftykins: did you see what i did there ? ^^
[15:52] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, i used the group sambashare and did the command both for myself and the other user that i'm using
[15:52] <acerspyro> AlexPortable: Very descriptive
[15:52] <AlexPortable> when i turn it on i can choose: UEFI: USBSTICK 4GB and BIOS: USBSTICK 4GB
[15:52] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, and then rebooted smbd and nmbd
[15:53] <acerspyro> Oh, I thought you were wondering what kind of GRUB to install, mape yourself clear
[15:53] <acerspyro> make*
[15:53] <acerspyro> pick whichever you want
[15:53] <OerHeks> AlexPortable, so what did you choose last time?
[15:53] <acerspyro> flip a coin
[15:53] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: command? you can't haha, you can't set two different users on the same path. the users must be *members* of the group
[15:53] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: last time i didn't had uefi
[15:53] <AlexPortable> OerHeks: also on my other laptop with uefi it went wrong
[15:53] <OerHeks> !uefi
[15:53] <OerHeks> read that manual first i guess
[15:53] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, what should I do if I have two users that want to have the same permissions for the same folder then?
[15:54] <acerspyro> OerHeks: ty
[15:54] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: what i just said above.
[15:54] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, so do I leave the user blank? just do sudo chown -R :sambashare /path
[15:54] <acerspyro> I would love to fix my maximized window problem someday...
[15:55] <Pinkie_Pylon> both users are members of the group
[15:55] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: just see if you can get in your test folder now. my battery's going so i'll be back shortly
[15:56] <AlexPortable> " If the BIOS is set up to boot the CD in EFI mode, then you will see the screen below: "
[15:56] <AlexPortable> i have that
[15:56] <AlexPortable> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png
[15:57] <daftykins> AlexPortable: you've been in here for weeks, surely you have an install already
[15:57] <AlexPortable> daftykins: yes, surely on an old pc
[15:57] <Guest93716> Hello All! Is there anyway I can have a different background for each of my monitors in ubuntu??
[15:57] <AlexPortable> where i don't have to deal with UEFI crap
[15:58] <acerspyro> Guest93716: I think so
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: make your life easy and install ubuntu on single hd
[15:58] <AlexPortable> lotuspsychje: well then how can i run battlefield 3?
[15:58] <acerspyro> Guest93716: or not? Display settings?
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> AlexPortable: make another box for gaming only
[15:59] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, still no joy i'm afraid
[15:59] <AlexPortable> lotuspsychje: give me the money for it
[15:59] <AlexPortable> also i't s annoying to move 2 laptops along to school
[16:00] <dreamercountry> hi
[16:00] <daftykins> Pinkie_Pylon: ok collect logs together and pastebin relevant sections and i'll bbl
[16:00] <whoppaz13> acerspyro: I looked into display settings and it only lets me have 1 background for all my monitors =/
[16:00] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, gotcha
[16:00] <acerspyro> whoppaz13: Hm. I know it's possible on KDE, but on GNOME...
[16:00] <dreamercountry> How about the chatroom ?
[16:01] <whoppaz13> acerspyro:  you think there might be a package or somehting out there?? I'm using Unity
[16:01] <acerspyro> whoppaz13: I found Nitrogen with a quick google
[16:01] <acerspyro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/390367/using-different-wallpapers-on-multiple-monitors-gnome-2-compiz
[16:02] <whoppaz13> acerspyro: ok cool I'll try that out then.  Thanks =)
[16:02] <acerspyro> np
[16:03] <AlexPortable> "This computer currently has no detected operating system. What would you like to do?"
[16:03] <acerspyro> "find one"
[16:04] <AlexPortable> acerspyro: how do i tell it that?
[16:04] <acerspyro> You don't, it's a joke
[16:04] <AlexPortable> ...
[16:04] <Pinkie_Pylon> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/R9gxG9nv
[16:05] <nicola> ciao
[16:06] <entreri> hello, I would like to use Ubuntu but with TWM windows manager. How to disable the main current desktop environment and the login screen ?
[16:10] <AlexPortable> so how can I install ubuntu without removing windows 8?
[16:10] <liolin> how to change the password...
[16:10] <P_O_I_S_O_N> ubuntu is not bootup . just blank screen im seeing ? how to trouble shoot it
[16:10] <AlexPortable> liolin: sudo passwd username
[16:11] <Fleetflame> AlexPortable: do you have a DVD with the ubuntu .iso?
[16:12] <AlexPortable> live usb
[16:12] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Dual boot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[16:13] <AlexPortable> "Choose the first option, which should say "Install them side by side, choosing between them each startup". "
[16:13] <AlexPortable> i dont have this
[16:13] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Did you create a partition ?
[16:13] <AlexPortable> no
[16:14] <AlexPortable> the problem is that im stuck with this uefi crap
[16:14] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Go to windows. Create an empty partition of at least 10gb. Boot your usb. Then select the option "do something else"
[16:14] <AlexPortable> can't I create the partition in ubuntu?
[16:15] <A1Recon> When I go to All Settings>Network>Options.... The options menu does not open up. Also the ethernet/network icon does not show up near the date. I am running ubuntu 14.04. I think the problem might be that I put in a command like "sudo apt-get uninstall *<dont-remember-name>" and this removed more than half of the stuff on my system.
[16:15] <jee1mr> You're going to install ubuntu in this partition.
[16:15] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:15] <A1Recon> How do i get them back??
[16:15] <AlexPortable> but can't i create the partition from inside ubuntu live usb
[16:16] <frodopwns> are there any passable ways to get exchange mail to work with ubuntu 14.04?
[16:16] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: No, I guess. I am not sure. Just check.
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> frodopwns  isnt that windows? if yes, try !wine, or a linux native program
[16:17] <nopf> frodopwns: you want to read and write mails from/to an exchange server?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> if that doesnt work*
[16:18] <frodopwns> nopf: i want to be able to accept meeting requests and have them added to a calendar like in osx and windows
[16:19] <squinty> AlexPortable:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  see what applies to you unit.  gparted is included with the live dvd.  you can prepartition with it before starting the livedvd installation proceedure
[16:19] <frodopwns> hmm, use wine to run outlook?
[16:19] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: You can.
[16:19] <AlexPortable> is it bad to partition inside the instlalation ?
[16:19] <AlexPortable> and should i use gparted or doesn't it really matters?
[16:19] <guzzi_jones> parititioning in the installation is prefered
[16:20] <guzzi_jones> pretty robust partitioner
[16:20] <AlexPortable> i don't have to make antoher uefi partition right?
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> frodopwns  orage calendar can do that
[16:20] <sunee> need help.my pc takes to much time start up.how to fix it?
[16:21] <guzzi_jones> i do not know what uefi is
[16:21] <AlexPortable> guzzi_jones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFI
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> sunee  what ubuntu release? what is "too much time"?
[16:21] <frodopwns> MonkeyDust: cool i will check it out
[16:22] <guzzi_jones> alexportable, it seems like an interface to the disk instead of bios
[16:22] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:22] <frodopwns> MonkeyDust: can that run in unity? says its for xfce
[16:22] <guzzi_jones> no you should be able to partition inside a uefi container i would think
[16:22] <entreri> `/join #xubuntu
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> frodopwns  yes, i have it, together with orage world clock
[16:23] <guzzi_jones> it should not be an issue or have any negative affects.
[16:23] <nopf> frodopwns: "I think this is one of the most prominent unsolved problems in IT" ...  more at http://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/98/calendar-application-for-linux-that-plays-well-with-outlook-and-exchange
[16:23] <frodopwns> i decided to switch to a linux laptop at work but email is an issue :-(
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> frodopwns  nopf 's solution looks better than mine
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> sunee  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8748772/
[16:26] <sacarlson> frodopwns: google has cool email, why would you need more than what they provide
[16:27] <frodopwns> sacarlson: I do use gmail but i need to get my work email to function within google for that to work
[16:27] <giov> !list
[16:28] <frodopwns> warez lol, havent seen that word in a while
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> frodopwns: yes they still exist :p
[16:29] <lancelot_of> hi there
[16:29] <sacarlson> wow I don't know what I did but sudenly all my keystrokes come out as thai letters accept for this pidgin app.  what combo of keystroke might have done that
[16:29] <AlexPortable> Well when in stalling ubuntu on uefi system
[16:30] <AlexPortable> what is mount point?
[16:30] <lancelot_of> i've a laptop without a middle button touchpad, how do i paste teerminal selection into other apps, such as thunderbird of firefox? Shift+Insert does not work for these applications. Ubuntu 14.04
[16:31] <sacarlson> wow I found it, so small I couldn't see it the en th at the bottom of the screen
[16:32] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: "/"
[16:32] <AlexPortable> jee1mr: not /dev/sda2 ?
[16:32] <AlexPortable> because that's where efi partition from windows is
[16:33] <sacarlson> frodopwns: what does your work use for email protocol?  like pop3?  that can also be read with gmail google mail
[16:33] <guzzi_jones> alexportable, you will need to first create a partition using gparted in order to install
[16:33] <guzzi_jones> you cannot repartition your current machine using the installer
[16:33] <frodopwns> sacarlson: exchange
[16:33] <AlexPortable> i already did guzzi_jones
[16:34] <AlexPortable> repartition using installer
[16:34] <AlexPortable> made my windows partition 130 gb smaller
[16:34] <AlexPortable> now putting an partition on the free space
[16:34] <guzzi_jones> ok.. didn't know you could do that.
[16:34] <guzzi_jones> ok so what is your question
[16:34] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Oh cool. Now click on + button below
[16:34] <AlexPortable> yes
[16:34] <AlexPortable> but it asks me for mount point
[16:34] <lancelot_of> no suggestions for me?
[16:34] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: Select the type as swap. And give it as 2-4 fb
[16:35] <AlexPortable> why only 4 gb?
[16:35] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: It's swap.
[16:35] <AlexPortable> I have 8 gb internal ram
[16:36] <jee1mr> Ok.. Then select 8gb. It doesn't matter, I guess.
[16:37] <sacarlson> frodopwns: microsoft exchange can be imported into gmail, ms exchange uses standard imap or pop3 format that gmail can handle
[16:37] <jee1mr> AlexPortable: After swap is done, create a new parition with filesystem type ext4 and mount point as "/"
[16:37] <sacarlson> frodopwns: https://support.google.com/a/answer/57920?hl=en
[16:38] <sacarlson> frodopwns: but linux has other apps that can also read imap and pop3,  gmail is just my personal preference
[16:39] <julianofischer> AlexPortable jeelmr it is interesting swap having at minimum the RAM size
[16:39] <frodopwns> sacarlson: i lso need to be able to accept meeting invitations via mail
[16:39] <AlexPortable> 8 gb ram <-> 8 gb swap
[16:39] <AlexPortable> which device for boot loader installation ?
[16:39] <julianofischer> AlexPortable jeelmr in order to hibernate the computer successfully
[16:40] <AlexPortable> computer stores hibernate on swap partition?
[16:40] <Pinkie_Pylon> anyone here good with samba and permissions?
[16:40] <jee1mr> julianofischer: Oh Alright
[16:40] <AlexPortable> so i should have 16 gb swap?
[16:40] <julianofischer> yes
[16:40] <AlexPortable> ok
[16:40] <AlexPortable> and which device for boot loader installation?
[16:40] <sacarlson> frodopwns: oh maybe you have some meeting deal integrated into exchange like google has the google calender but I'm not sure if import for that is suported
[16:40] <julianofischer> I think something higher than RAM its better
[16:40] <whoppaz13> Nitrogen doesn't seem to work for the seperate backgrounds in ubuntu 14.04 and unity.  Would this work beter with either KDE or Gnome?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> whoppaz13  try it to find out
[16:42] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: samba is not my best subject but I can take a wack at it
[16:42] <alevosia> hey there
[16:42] <Pinkie_Pylon> i'm getting issues with file permissions
[16:42] <Pinkie_Pylon> sacarlson, http://pastebin.com/R9gxG9nv
[16:42] <Pinkie_Pylon> there is logs and stuff there
[16:42] <alevosia> does anyone know the command to copy the same file to all folders in the system with a certain name?
[16:45] <alevosia> maybe creating first a file with each path to all of those folders (grep?) and then using as an input to the cp command?
[16:45] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: seems I see the permisions of what is insided shares but not what the directory it self is set to
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> alevosia  if you don't get an answer here, try asking in #bash
[16:45] <alevosia> ook, thankx
[16:46] <Pinkie_Pylon> sacarlson, /hsared is set to drwxrwxrwx 6 james sambashare 4096
[16:46] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: ok
[16:47] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: and no user can see it from samba?
[16:47] <Pinkie_Pylon> sacarlson, one user can see the shared folder and access it and write to it etc
[16:47] <Pinkie_Pylon> the other one can only see it and can't access it through windows without getting permission denied
[16:50] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: I'm not sure.  makes more sense if windows could read it but not write it, but it an view directory but can't read or write files
[16:50] <Pinkie_Pylon> no
[16:50] <Pinkie_Pylon> it can't view the directory either
[16:50] <Pinkie_Pylon> it can see it in Network>\\SERVER in windows explorer
[16:50] <Pinkie_Pylon> there's a folder in there called "shared"
[16:51] <Pinkie_Pylon> and I can access and have full perms from one account on one machine
[16:51] <Pinkie_Pylon> and i can still see it, but can't open it or write to it on the other machine using the other user account
[16:51] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: ok
[16:52] <OerHeks> Pinkie_Pylon, likely an windows issue https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/fb269dda-2cc6-40c0-8449-3c3d4c697a33/windows-7-cannot-access-samba-shares?forum=w7itpronetworking
[16:53] <Pinkie_Pylon> OerHeks, how come a win8 machine can access it then?
[16:53] <sacarlson> Pinkie_Pylon: nope it's too late and had too many beers.  I personly prefer file sharing with ssh as it's never givin me the problems I've had with samba
[16:53] <Pinkie_Pylon> OerHeks, i'm getting chdir permission denied in the samba logs
[16:53] <sacarlson> OerHeks: from what user name?
[16:54] <OerHeks> Pinkie_Pylon, so it is a windows7 issue
[16:54] <sacarlson> OerHeks: back in the days I recall I had to set samba config to force the windows box to be a certain user as they don' t have user names like linux
[16:54] <OerHeks> maybe workgroup ?
[16:54] <Pinkie_Pylon> OerHeks, i will try the marked answer in that thread brb
[16:55] <entreri> hey there, how to disable a service with upstart ???
[16:55] <entreri> I want to disable the desktop environment from booting
[16:56] <entreri> why is it so obscure ?
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> entreri: i found a handy package to enable/disable services, but not all system services
[16:57] <SarumanPuissant> Ubuntu is bloated with malware, it has just been proved. Please act.
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> !info jobs-admin | entreri
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> SarumanPuissant: proved by whom?
[16:57] <imbezol> entreri: it seems like they're half way through switching from initv to systemd so half the stuff is in one spot half in the other
[16:58] <SarumanPuissant> lotuspsychje: Bruce Schneier
[16:58] <imbezol> entreri: and the tools that were used to config startup services have mostly been made obsolete
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> SarumanPuissant: url?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> SarumanPuissant  please bring your sources and proof to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: do you know any GUI for upstart?
[16:58] <SarumanPuissant> I will as soon as OP upload the content
[16:59] <sacarlson> entreri: it's best you tell us what app you want to disable as there is two basic upstart methods now ,  the old and the new.  so depening on the age of some apps it could be setup with /etc/init or etc/init.d methods
[16:59] <Pinkie_Pylon> OerHeks, no change, do those things need a reboot to work?
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: i also interested in this issue and found no way to disable CUPS yet
[17:00] <harovali> hi, I've installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit in a 2gb of ram machine. However, the 'free' command acknowledges 1.5gb. I thought I 'd have these sort of problems with a 32 bit version, but not with a 64 bit. Any hint is welcome
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: i already tryed remove from update-rc.d but no luck, still shows running in pstree
[17:00] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: did you try echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override
[17:01] <daftykins> harovali: "cat /proc/meminfo" would be more relevant there
[17:01] <entreri> sacarlson: I just wanted to disable the Desktop environment, xfce for me right now
[17:01] <SarumanPuissant> ramène toi nW44b !!
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: just did the command, ill check next boot
[17:01] <sacarlson> entreri: oh ok so you want it to run like a linux server in text mode?
[17:01] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: did you reboot or stop the service after? i don't think telling it not to start by default will actually stop the running service
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: yes i rebooted after
[17:02] <Guest53052> Is Ubuntu-Gnome known to be broken? I have terrible issues with getting X to display anything but a black screen.
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: but i did the 'remove' command from update-rc.d, not the upstart manual trick
[17:03] <entreri> sacarlson: I want to get rid of the desktop environment and the login screen and replace it with manually starting up Xorg with a lightweight window manager
[17:03] <HFSPLUS> HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED
[17:03] <HFSPLUS> !OPS | NOOO WAAA
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: i was looking for something easy GUI to disable services
[17:03] <sacarlson> entreri: you might try update-rc.d -f xdm remove  see if that does the trick
[17:04] <HFSPLUS> !OPS | HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED
[17:04] <sacarlson> entreri: oh wait don't do what I just said then
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> entreri: why not just install your wanted Wm and start grub with 'quiet splash' off
[17:04] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: well i'd like to hear the official answer on how to control services from someone at ubuntu too. my experience is that it's currently very disjointed and truthfully a mess.. but then i may not be looking in the right spot
[17:05] <squinty> text
[17:05] <sweeb> Hey entreri you could add [[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx
[17:05] <OerHeks> !patience > HFSPLUS
[17:05] <HFSPLUS> !OPS | HFSPLUS HAS ARRIVED
[17:05] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: i miss /etc/init.d/ and /etc/inittab
[17:05] <sweeb> to your bashrc or zshrc
[17:05] <sacarlson> entreri: I'm not sure what this lightweight window manager  is,  so you want to replace xfe not just stop it then
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: i think the newest way for ubuntu is the upstart way..but looks complex to me
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: i found most services in jobs-admin package
[17:06] <imbezol> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: yes also seen that one, but very complex to understand
[17:07] <imbezol> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: if you find a nice package to easy disable/enable lemme know :p
[17:07] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: there is basicly only two upstart like methods unless it's a network related process then it might be a bit different
[17:08] <entreri> sacarlson: I would like to boot in command line, and startx myself with a proper .xinitrc (where I can put my startup commands in for X server)
[17:08] <Guest53052> I'd love it if I could get some help to fix my Xorg. I think specifically I might need a way to reconfigure Xorg from a tty, since that's all I have. But I'm really not sure.
[17:08] <sacarlson> entreri: oh ok if thats the case then my method above should work to get you to pre X server mode at boot
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: i just wanted to tweak my system for unwanted services at boot, as this is a netbook i dont need cups printing
[17:10] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: ya there should be some gui that also can take care of a bunch of those unneeded processes.  I just don't recall the gui packages name
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> !info jobs-admin | sacarlson
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: unfortunatly cups does not show enabled on there
[17:10] <EnginA> is there a recommended document to make ubuntu least memory intensive? I have 2g of memory on this laptop and all I want is to use it as a set top box (like kiosk). Any recommended guidelines? (the doc i found for less memory usage was from 2005)
[17:11] <EnginA> I want to launch an app upon reboot and that's all
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> !swap | EnginA
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> EnginA  try a light DE like xfce or lxde
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | EnginA
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> EnginA: also look into swappiness tweak
[17:11] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: so I guess cups moved to the new upstart method that this app hasn't grown into yet maybe
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: i think thats the logic indeed
[17:12] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: I just installed your jobs app and I'm checking it out now
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: maybe ubuntu philosophy is any pc will need at least printing?
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> EnginA  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8748772/
[17:12] <Guest53052> My situation in case anyone might care: I bought a GTX970. It needed a new driver to function. I installed the Nvidia one. After that, I could no longer get Xorg to show anything but a black screen. Tried lots of things. Gave up. Upgraded to 14.10. Installed latest Nvidia driver right away. Good for one boot, worked as it should.  I took the card out and tried to use the onboard, still black screen.
[17:13] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: ha ha no I don't need it eather so I'll try disable it also
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: tnx for checking
[17:13] <fux8989> hi everyone :)
[17:13] <Guest53052> But I'm not sure if Xorg even knows it's supposed to use the onboard graphics. I don't know how to tell it to do that. I tried editing xorg.conf, but I'm not sure it does anything. Changing the driver to intel or vesa does nothing it seems.
[17:14] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: from a glance it looks to only support the /etc/init.d group of upstart (the old method) do apps you see in /etc/init  will probly not be supported with that
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: makes sense
[17:15] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: yes and I also note that the cups app is seen in /etc/init  the new upstart method
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: so we need a gui for /etc/init, lets google that stuff :p
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[17:17] <Guest53052> Well, maybe someone could at least tell if if it's supposed to be possible to remove a GPU and start using the onboard one without any mucking around. Just a yes or no.
[17:17] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: ya a more advanced gui that supports both the old and the new
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: ls /etc/init/*.conf to lis them
[17:19] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: I just performed the terminal method to disalbe cups but it also required sudo su; echo "manual" > /etc/init/cups.override ; to do it
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: also just did that one, lets check next boot
[17:19] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: yes I already looked in that directory. so now find a gui to do it instead of the text method
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: would be interesting
[17:20] <squinty> Guest53052:  rename the xorg.conf file to get it out of the way.  try using the nomodeset parameter in the grub bootup screen. see if you can get to a desktop
[17:20] <haidora> hey there i am new for linux but i know how to use kali linux but now i am taking ubuntu instead of windows 8.1 any advices?
[17:20] <Jeeves_Moss> does anyone have the correct setting for AWStats in their apache config files? I can't get the icons directory to work correctly.
[17:20] <squinty> !nomodeset > squinty
[17:21] <Guest53052> squinty, should Xorg work without xorg.conf?
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> !info sysv-rc-conf | sacarlson that seems also the old method
[17:21] <pub> hi there.. can anyone help me to set a permanent user name and password in irc
[17:22] <squinty> !nomodeset | Guest53052
[17:22] <sacarlson> entreri: did you try update-rc.d -f xdm  to disable your X desktop?
[17:22] <haidora> what is the best software centre for ubuntu?????
[17:22] <squinty> Guest53052:  for most cases, afaik, these days xorg.conf is not usually needed
[17:22] <Guest53052> squinty, thing is, it worked for one boot. But only one. Now I'm on the Intel onboard which works "out of the box" on this live USB stick, but only gives black screen when trying to boot from disk.
[17:22] <squinty> haidora:  you desktop software center
[17:23] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: so you tried sysv-rc-conf already to verify it's also the old stuf?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: yep, cups shows disabled there also
[17:23] <squinty> Guest53052:  not into playing the "the thing is game..." you asked a question and I responded. try the suggestion or not...up to you
[17:23] <Guest53052> squinty, sorry for questioning you. It's just that I have to leave the chat if I'm going to try anything.
[17:24] <haidora> i need a software centre than can download more than one thing at the same time and in high speed
[17:24] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: oh but I didn't see cups in that gui that I installed, only stuf I saw in /etc/init.d was visable at all
[17:24] <Guest53052> All righty then...
[17:25] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: if you see cups in it then it must be the new upstart method gui
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: think you can choose 'hidden services' also
[17:25] <M0thra> haidora: the software center can queue up things that will download
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: im not sure, because it shows disabled, and pstree shows it running
[17:26] <entreri> sacarlson: I will try it tonight at home, I'm at work : P
[17:26] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> if in my /boot folder, I see grub instead of grub2.  Does that mean I installed the wrong one when I tried to do a boot repair
[17:26] <sacarlson> entreri: ok
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> !info rcconf | sacarlson
[17:27] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: no I don't see it here in jobs-admin any place.  I'll take a look at your sysv-rc-conf since you say you can see cups
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: that1 also shows cups disabled
[17:28] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> does anyone know this?
[17:30] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: so after a tonne of reading it seems this is the official way
[17:30] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: echo "manual" >> /etc/init/cups.override
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: tnx and that will work for the whole list of /etc/init?
[17:31] <Loshki> !grub2
[17:31] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: well this rcconf is showing cups and also mysql but both are shown as disabled and I know mysql is active so something is wrong with this one
[17:32] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: i believe so.. you're basically telling it that the service with /etc/init/cups.conf should also read the override file, and set the the startup method to manual only
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: lets stick with imbezol and maybe no GUI method out yet...
[17:32] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: initctl status cups
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ initctl status cups
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> initctl: Unknown job: cups
[17:33] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: initctl stop cups
[17:33] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: hmm.. that's interesting
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:33] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: ps fauxw | grep cups
[17:33] <imbezol> is it running?
[17:33] <sacarlson> imbezol: lotuspsychje well if nothing works then I should write one as it should not be hard to do
[17:33] <sacarlson> or at least fix some of these that should work
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: pstree shows cups and cups-browsed running
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: fauxw shows whole list
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> cups/notifier
[17:36] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: what do you get if you do "ls -ld /etc/init/cups*"
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  525 apr  8  2014 /etc/init/cups-browsed.conf
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1815 apr 10  2014 /etc/init/cups.conf
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    7 okt 30 18:01 /etc/init/cups.override
[17:37] <Dragin> How do I give myself permission to open and write to a file?
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> imbezol, sacarlson try service --status-all
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: cups + cups-browsed running both +
[17:40] <squinty> Dragin:  sudo nano <name of file>   or  gksu gedit <name of file>   latter is for gui apps  is one way
[17:40] <Dragin> thanks
[17:40] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: mysql in service --status-all shows mysql as ?  so it doesn't know?
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: not sure what the ? is :p but + will be running for sure
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: maybe waiting ?
[17:41] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: just tried sudo sysv-rc-conf and it's the same with mysql shows as disabled, so not correct
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson: indeed
[17:42] <webb1wd> hello guys.I booted with the live cd of ubuntu.I tried mounting /dev/sda/ with -t auto but it wouldnt mount then i tried with ext4,but nothing it wouldnt mount then i tried lsblk and at the fstype collum it didnt list anything only at the sdb1 which i succesfully mounted,after.Then i tried gdisk -l and it did list the 5 partitions on /dev/sda.What should i do to mount the disk?It also said the gpt table is damaged on /dev/sda but it w
[17:42] <Nokiabot> Are drivers available foq gma 3600 ?
[17:42] <webb1wd> ...that i can give it a file type.
[17:43] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: I think it might be because of something I did to networking that has messed it up.  it might be my custom mods make it not work
[17:43] <dominik_> hello guys, i have a question. Can u tell me how to use data from --inpputbox?
[17:43] <dominik_> --inputbox*
[17:43] <Nokiabot> Powervr such a pain on linux
[17:43] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Way more details needed, including what is all there and end goal.
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> sacarlson, imbezol i think imbezol is right about this: https://scottlinux.com/2013/10/30/starting-and-stopping-services-at-boot-on-ubuntu-with-upstart/
[17:46] <sacarlson> lotuspsychje: yes I'm confident that the term method works.  I just thought it strange in this day in age that we would have to resort to it without a gui at hand.  I think the gui also works in most cases
[17:46] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: ok i will give more details,my end goal is to mount the sda so i can see my fstab file.That is because i get "gave up waiting for root device"  when i boot ubuntu,it was saying something about uuid so i thought beacuase i installed new hdd maybe uuid changed.
[17:46] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: i didnt give more details,just end goal
[17:46] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, sda is the HD you want o mount the partition it is in.
[17:47] <bubbasaures> to*
[17:47] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: strange that initctl status cups shows nothing for you
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: i tryed the 'remove' way from update-rc.d few days ago, maybe thats why?
[17:47] <imbezol> lotuspsychje: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:47] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Easier to change in the booted ubuntu, is it not booting?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> imbezol: 14.04 64bit
[17:48] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: it has 5 partitions sda1,2,3,4,5....i want to mount sda2 when i try to mount  with mount it says it doesnt exist.
[17:48] <squinty> webb1wd:  maybe bring up Disks and see if it will mount from there
[17:49] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, From a live if still there it should show in it's home, you would have to chroot to it, or root the fstab mount to change, easier done on a booted OS, does it boot?
[17:49] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: it is booting but then im getting something that http://i.stack.imgur.com/hTLuo.jpg except that dev/mapper/... isnt there on my it says something with uuid which is the hdd id.
[17:50] <webb1wd> squinty: i will try that thanks!
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> !info systemd-gui
[17:53] <haidora> what is best apps for ubuntu?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> haidora: what do you need?
[17:54] <vj> looking for a free dnla server on ubuntu. Any gud choices that support transcoding?
[17:54] <haidora> ia m new to ubuntu and replaced windows with it
[17:54] <haidora> i need some useful apps like xchat
[17:55] <bubbasaures> haidora, look in the ubuntu software center for apps.
[17:55] <haidora> can i download more than one app at the same time in ubuntu software centre??
[17:55] <bubbasaures> haidora, In general any app in linux or most have other versions, E.G video media players.
[17:56] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: sorry mate but i cant understand what you mean by "in its home".:S
[17:57] <bubbasaures> haidora, I would learn apt-get for installing you install as much as you want at one time.
[17:57] <haidora> ok thanks
[17:58] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Home is in the left panel, a file structure not rooted, has a left side panel that should show the internal hard drives partitions
[17:58] <vj> Hi, I am new to ubuntu and looking for a dnla compliant media server on ubuntu
[17:59] <vj> i am running ubuntu 14.04 desktop
[17:59] <bubbasaures> haidora, An example would be two things installed  sudo apt-get install xchat vlc
[17:59] <l0rdn1x> vj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1755/what-dlna-server-to-choose
[18:00] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: ok i will look it.
[18:01] <haidora> is it necessary to update my ubuntu 13.10 to latest version???????????????
[18:01] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Do you have what ever is there backed up, prepared for any failure?
[18:01] <vj> 10rdn1x: Thanks, media-tomb looks good to me
[18:01] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> hello all
[18:01] <bubbasaures> haidora, Yeah 13.10 is eol.
[18:01] <bubbasaures> !eol | haidora look at eol upgrade
[18:01] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> I am attempting to rotate my CLI 90' because I have a monitor that I turn on its side
[18:01] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> how would I do that?
[18:03] <haidora> is there a better program than photoshop??????for editing images??
[18:03] <bubbasaures> RaMcHiP-Mobile, My first thought was xrandr try this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/95812/how-can-i-rotate-my-display-in-the-most-easy-way
[18:04] <digisus> 3okfn
[18:04] <bubbasaures> just guessing however
[18:04] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: well i dont i wasnt expecting that i would get this error, i have a new hdd, i will try to back things up.Do you have any recommendations for software?clonezilla?
[18:04] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> bubbasaures, Thanks will check this out
[18:04] <sacarlson> haidora: I'm not sure it's better but very similar call gimp,  but also inkscape is cool with features that photoshop doesn't even have
[18:05] <haidora> how to connect to wifi network using wps in ubuntu?
[18:05] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, For an mirror clone I use clonezilla, and in ubuntu rsync to keep home up to date, all on externals. Lots of imaging options however.
[18:05] <sacarlson> haidora: nework-manager supports it
[18:06] <haidora> thanks this is the most useful message since i have installed xchat
[18:07] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Your issue is a bit hard to understand exactly, you mention a gpt table somewhere, and the exact chain of events is not clear.
[18:08] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: yes i know,i came here earlier and i had said things better.
[18:09] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Not the easiest place to do all that. ;)
[18:10] <haidora> how to run network-manager from terminal???
[18:11] <daftykins> haidora: for what purpose?
[18:11] <bubbasaures> haidora, Is this a wireless issue, do you reach the net plugged in?
[18:11] <webb1wd> bubbasaures:  ok
[18:12] <haidora> my wierless is working fine but i want to know how to connect to a wifi using wps pin
[18:12] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, I would include a pastebin of the setup with sudo parted -l in your inquiry, I would like to see it if possible.
[18:13] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: ok i will now go boot with live cd,im on another pc.
[18:14] <bynarie> wud up
[18:14] <bubbasaures> webb1wd, Can you be on the channel from that live, that in general is best.
[18:15] <bubbasaures> or at least have access quickly
[18:15] <ki7mt> hello all, I'm at remote locate trying to fix a dualboot laptop Debian 7 / Ubuntu 14.04 Debian boots ok, but the Ubuntu image keeps dumping into a low graphics error screen. Whenever I try to update grub ( I suspect the UUID is hosed up in fstab), fsck just hangs up. Theres also an error on the boot splash stating the UUID is not mounted yet. Any Ideas how to resolve this?
[18:16] <haidora> help how to launch network-manager from terminal?
[18:16] <bubbasaures> ki7mt, Updating grub wont change the graphics.
[18:17] <webb1wd> bubbasaures: i will have quick access the other pc is slow with mozilla cause it live cd.
[18:17] <ki7mt> bubbasaures, Yes, I know, but I can't get into a r/w partition as the fsck keeps hangin up, so I thought updateing grub may fix that, but wasn't sure.
[18:17] <daftykins> ki7mt: are you fsck'ing from a live session?
[18:18] <daftykins> ki7mt: have you checked the disk is ok from its' SMART info?
[18:18] <ki7mt> daftykins, No, I dont have access to a CD here.
[18:18] <daftykins> ki7mt: ok i would not try and fsck via this means. you need bootable media
[18:18] <daftykins> or do it from debian
[18:19] <ki7mt> daftykins, ok, well I can boot int the Debian side just fine if that helps.
[18:19] <daftykins> ki7mt: ok, it'd be nice to confirm the disk is healthy before proceeding with the fsck.
[18:20] <Filthy> if you are going to fsck with debian wear a jiffy
[18:20] <ki7mt> daftykins, Ok, how to proceed ? /dev/sda1 is Debian, sev/sda3 is ubuntu  and /dev/sda5 is swap
[18:20] <daftykins> that's not helpful, Filthy.
[18:20] <ki7mt> .. /dev/sda3 ..
[18:20] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: hi
[18:20] <daftykins> ki7mt: get smartmontools installed under debian and run "smartctl -a /dev/sda" to check the SMART output is fine
[18:20] <givello> Hey there, I was around the previous two day for a freeze at boot. I have new information and could use some advice
[18:20] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: im talking from the ubuntu machine.
[18:21] <givello> I finally found a way to get the system to output the errors encountered during boot
[18:21] <AlexPortable> Why isn't screencloud in the repos anymore?
[18:21] <givello> Which necessitated a removal of $vthandoff and adding text --verbose nomodeset nosplash in the boot line
[18:22] <givello> And the result is that it stops right after printing loading initial ramdisk
[18:22] <ki7mt> daftykins, Ok, installing
[18:22] <givello> Any advice?
[18:22] <sanan> привет
[18:22] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: here is my parted -l paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/8749968/
[18:24] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> bubbasaures, Thanks that worked
[18:24] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> that threw my touch 90' off now ;)
[18:24] <ki7mt> daftykins, Only thing of interest, it spit back power on lifetime message.
[18:25] <bubbasaures> RaMcHiP-Mobile, Cool, no problem.
[18:25] <daftykins> ki7mt: i'm afraid i can't follow that sentence at all. if you could pastebin the smartctl output that would be helpful
[18:26] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, So I see one HD, 1 TB, any others?
[18:26] <ki7mt> daftykins, Sri, the only Error Message presented was Error 81, at disk power-on lifetime: 31136 hours (1297 days + 18 houts )
[18:26] <ki7mt> daftykins, the rest looked ok
[18:26] <bubbasaures> RaMcHiP-Mobile, Ah, not sure on the touch part, heh.
[18:26] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: that is sdb,sda it says "Error: Invalid argument during seek for read on /dev/sda "
[18:27] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: and i also have a new one unplugged now.
[18:27] <daftykins> ki7mt: can you not pastebin it anyway? not sure if debian has the package 'pastebinit'
[18:27] <ki7mt> daftykins, I'll check
[18:27] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, I would see what sda looks like in gparted on the live.
[18:28] <bubbasaures> the sda HD
[18:28] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: so to burn gparted on cd and then boot from it?
[18:28] <haidora> can u name me the best kali group?????
[18:28] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:28] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, gparted is on the live.
[18:29] <ki7mt> daftykins, Im going to long into IRC from the Debian box, make this easier. It has pastebinit.
[18:29] <webb1nd> bubbasaures:i understand now okay.
[18:29] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, I just wonder if that HD shows anything, what was on there exactly?
[18:29] <HaaPut> "Your Ubuntu 14.04 experienced an internal problem" keeps poping now and then with tracker-extract crashing
[18:30] <ki7mt> daftykins, http://paste.debian.net/129467/
[18:30] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: there was /home and /
[18:30] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: also swap
[18:30] <linus_> webb1nd: can you help me sir
[18:30] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, Any windows, ntfs...etc?
[18:31] <bubbasaures> linus_, Wait for help, don't ask randomly.
[18:31] <daftykins> ki7mt: that disk is toast, see lines 61 and 72
[18:31] <daftykins> ki7mt: copy the data off onto another drive from all OSs and replace it
[18:31] <webb1nd> webb1nd: no,i was using it right before i installed the new hdd.I booted it up yesterday.
[18:31] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Ya, I have to do some research now.  This will be my first touch screen project and I need to do it 90' rotated ;)
[18:31] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[18:31] <linus_> bubbasaures: how do I get in line?
[18:31] <webb1nd> webb1nd: and sure it didnt have any ntfs partitions
[18:32] <bubbasaures> linus_, No line, it is just you state your issue, and any one who wants to and knows the answers talks with you is all.
[18:32] <ki7mt> daftykins, Is this due to age or something or just a general failure ?
[18:33] <daftykins> ki7mt: could be both, bad sectors can be due to a laptop that's dropped, general failure of heads coming in contact with platters, many things really
[18:33] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:33] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:33] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:33] <HaaPut> "Your Ubuntu 14.04 experienced an internal problem" keeps poping now and then with tracker-extract crashing
[18:33] <ki7mt> daftykins, Ok, I guess the the section that the Debian is on must be ok, as that's what Im on now.
[18:33] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, sda was a gpt setup as well? This a former windows uefi bios?
[18:34] <HaaPut> anybody got any ideas what may be the reason
[18:34] <ansivirus> linus_, what version of Ubuntu. (and no need to flood the question multiple times)
[18:34] <squinty> linus_:  read!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[18:34] <linus_> Ubuntu 12.04 :ansivirus
[18:34] <daftykins> ki7mt: it may be, but this issue may very well get worse, so you need to consider this disk dead and backup immediately
[18:35] <ki7mt> daftykins, Yup understand. The only thing of value on the Ubuntu partition is the GPG keys.
[18:35] <ansivirus> linus_, what are you trying to set it to?
[18:36] <linus_> ansivirus: I have this in /etc/default/locale : LANG=en_US.utf8
[18:36] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: I had moved it from a windows pc to this pc.:S the sda.Also it is gpt system.
[18:36] <ki7mt> daftykins, I've already backed up most of user directory. Just wondering if I can get keys off it before scrapping it.
[18:37] <haidora> how to make a linux app??
[18:37] <daftykins> ki7mt: yeah, just mount the volumes read-only and perform small tasks one at a time - so you don't lose too much if it freezes up
[18:37] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/8750150/
[18:37] <ansivirus> linus_, in /etc/default/local put LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and LANGUAGE="en_US:en"   then in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local put en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8  then issue command locale-gen and init 6 to reboot
[18:38] <OerHeks> haidora, make a program, compile it
[18:39] <haidora> i want to know how to make a program?
[18:39] <OerHeks> haidora, choose the programming language first, then do it
[18:40] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, I would take your setup to someone who knows this stuff. It is not beyond help here, or on forums but needs a clear outline. I don't see that happening here is all.
[18:40] <haidora> did you try to make one?
[18:42] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: ok bubbasaures im glad for helping me out.Do you suggest posting on forums?
[18:42] <squinty> haidora: google for articles similar to the following  http://www.opensourceforu.com/2010/05/write-your-next-program-on-linux/
[18:43] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, Do you have any friends who know this area well?
[18:43] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: no i dont.
[18:44] <Marasgeon> greetings everyone
[18:44] <linus_> ansivirus: when I run "locale" I get "LANG=", so it doesn't work
[18:45] <HaaPut> anyone any clue why my tracker-extract keeps crashing
[18:45] <Marasgeon> I have an internal card reader on my laptop, it can read SD cards but not SDHC, can I make it work somehow?
[18:45] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, Ah, I can't help is all, here might be best than, live help that can get the needed info from you.
[18:46] <bubbasaures> HaaPut, Have you looked at the man
[18:47] <bubbasaures> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/tracker-extract.1.html
[18:47] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, see the specs of your vendor, max capacity readable etc etc
[18:48] <linus_> ansivirus: I did everything you said it didn't work help me out please
[18:48] <Gl-l0ST> hi
[18:49] <HaaPut> yeah but what does man page have to do with it crashing repeatedly bubbasaures
[18:50] <OerHeks> linus_, systemsettings > languagesupport > regional settings
[18:50] <linus_> OerHeks: I run server version, on command line
[18:50] <webb1nd> bubbasaures:I cant understand you mate.
[18:50] <Soul-Sing> nou en?
[18:51] <OerHeks> linus_, did you logout/login to let the changes take effect?
[18:51] <bubbasaures> HaaPut, I just noticed a time on it's running, not familiar with it so wondering.
[18:51] <linus_> OerHeks: yes I did everything perfectly
[18:51] <kasunbg> hi, i recently upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04.. The upgrade reported a failure halfway through, and then asked me to continue `dpkg --configure -a`.  I have not restarted the machine yet.. Can I have some help locating the error log, so you I can show it to you please?
[18:51] <Marasgeon> OarHeks: What you mean vendor?
[18:52] <Marasgeon> OerHeks: What you mean vendor?
[18:52] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, the maker of your machine
[18:52] <Marasgeon> OerHeks: so there is no command or program that can made my reader recognize the SDHC cards?
[18:53] <bubbasaures> webb1nd, Just keep trying here, someone eventually will get more help for you.
[18:53] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, it is a harware limit, not software, or does that cardreader work well with SDHC cards in windows ?
[18:53] <Scorppp> Bonsoir
[18:53] <webb1nd> bubbasaures: ok
[18:54] <Marasgeon> OerHeks, yes it does
[18:54] <kasunbg> the upgraded was from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04. First step happened flawlessly.. but the 2nd reported failures..
[18:54] <belgianguy> hello, sometimes my browser (Chrome) is able to defeat the login screen after the screen dims
[18:54] <belgianguy> I'm on 14.10
[18:54] <belgianguy> but it's done it before
[18:55] <belgianguy> I wonder how that is possible
[18:55] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, does ubuntu read sd cards well?
[18:55] <Marasgeon> yes
[18:55] <linus_> how do I set the LANG locale in ubuntu 12.04 server version, /etc/default/locale file doesn't work
[18:55] <OerHeks> Marasgeon, then i have no clue
[18:55] <belgianguy> It usually happens when playing full screen flash video
[18:55] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[18:56] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, After running 'dpkg --configure -a' what happened?
[18:56] <linus_> OerHeks: I followed those instructions but this happened https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165059/how-to-set-lang-in-locale-despite-its-in-etc-default-locale-in-ubuntu-for-uni
[18:56] <HaaPut> bubbasaures it takes input from stdin so I guess it will wait for 30 seconds for input before quitting
[18:57] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, that went fine.. at the end it warned the upgrade didn't happen properly, so the system might be unstable.
[18:58] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, i'm yet to restart the machine.. Everything else seem to work fine. Suspend, and waking up also works fine
[18:58] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, Ah, were or are you backed up off the drive, or somewhere?
[18:59] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, nope.. but i have a separate root partition..
[18:59] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, I would use a the sudo apt-get -f install command if needed at any failure point to see if any installs need finishing.
[19:00] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[19:00] <OerHeks> linus_, if i follow the good manual, sudo locale-gen && sudo locale-gen en_US.utf8 #and reboot
[19:01] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, Kinda a foolish upgrade really, okay if your backed up, with a separate home you could have just installed 14.04
[19:01] <linus_> OerHeks: I already did that, it doesn't work, it says up-to-date anyway
[19:02] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, hmm.. yea.. but i wanted to keep the configuration files of apache2 etc.
[19:02] <linus_> OerHeks: how do I see if it works I run locale and see LANG=en_US right, but I see LANG= ...
[19:03] <OerHeks> linus_, just type 'locale'
[19:03] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, would apt-get -f install have any bad side-effects.. i once removed ubuntu-desktop while trying to remove some qt libs <<banging-the-head>>.. so, wanted to know there won't be mishaps like that
[19:03] <linus_> OerHeks: it outputs LANG= . So i guess it doesn't work right
[19:04] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, -f install is just to finish stopped package installs. Did you use eol upgrade here?
[19:06] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, i had a fresh 13.04. Last month i upgraded the EOLed 13.04 to 13.10. Then, upgraded to 14.04 y'day
[19:07] <bubbasaures> !eol | kasunbg Did you follow the eol upgrade sources.list change from eolupgrade here
[19:07] <bourne_> exit
[19:09] <kasunbg>  bubbasaures, yes.. that i had in my sources.list for 13.04. But not for 13.10 since the saucy repo is not moved to old-releases yet.
[19:10] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, i just ran the said command. it didn't do anything.
[19:10] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, I reported that I have dozens of packages automatically installed that are no longer required
[19:10] <kasunbg> *it
[19:11] <AlexPortable> How can I disable someone shutting down my system?
[19:11] <bekks> AlexPortable: Who is that "someone"?
[19:12] <AlexPortable> I don't want anyone to access the top bar when my screen is locked
[19:12] <AlexPortable> bekks: someone near my pc
[19:12] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, That response "packages automatically installed that are no longer required" is part of an upgrade at the end.
[19:12] <Seveas> AlexPortable: physical access means you're screwed anyway. They can just unplug it.
[19:12] <bekks> AlexPortable: Tell him/her not to do it.
[19:12] <AlexPortable> bekks: "I didn't do anything"
[19:13] <AlexPortable> Seveas: what do you mean unplug?
[19:13] <AlexPortable> ah unplug from power
[19:13] <AlexPortable> well I won't leave my laptop unattended for 5 hours
[19:13] <AlexPortable> so that's not a problem
[19:13] <zymm> Ello Ubuntu. Anyone got any time to help me with wineasio?
[19:13] <Seveas> they can take the battery out, or press the power button
[19:14] <nuke1989> anyone familiar with cssh ? Or generally with operating many VMs with different passwords?
[19:14] <bekks> nuke1989: Whats the problem with that?
[19:14] <Seveas> nuke1989: try salt instead of ssh
[19:15] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, ok.. i probably don't have to do `apt-get autoremove`.. since it asks to remove some packages i love dearly.
[19:15] <nuke1989> well i am controlling around 18 VMs and i loging 3 times each day typing the exact commands. Problem is every VM has different password. And it takes time....
[19:16] <nuke1989> i will check salt
[19:16] <bekks> nopf: Use key based auth then.
[19:16] <pdcmoreira> hello
[19:16] <AlexPortable> Seveas: battery can't be taken out. power button does nothing
[19:16] <nuke1989> bekks, i cant....Big story...
[19:17] <bekks> nuke1989: So you have to type in the passwords.
[19:17] <nuke1989> i wonder if cssh or something similar can take passwords from a file
[19:17] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, Sometimes they are removed, if 3rd party...etc,  problem here is that really you have not provided enough detail to really help. Had you come on here before, mots would say fresh install.
[19:17] <OerHeks> zymm, for wine issues you better join #winehq
[19:17] <nuke1989> bekks, yes
[19:17] <bubbasaures> most*
[19:17] <bekks> nuke1989: Taking the password from a files is "key based auth".
[19:18] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, yea.. i don't which error log i shud point u to.. the /var/log/dpkg.log doesn't seems to be useful :(
[19:18] <nuke1989> bekks, doesnt key based auth need changes on the VMs ?
[19:18] <nopf> bekks: yes, that's best in most cases :)
[19:18] <bekks> nuke1989: you need to tell each VM to accept your specific key, yes.
[19:19] <bubbasaures> kasunbg, I can't really sieve out the truth here on your issues, ;) maybe others can.
[19:19] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, i will probably try a restart tomorrow, and do a fresh install if it giving me trouble at the cost all my configurations
[19:19] <nuke1989> bekks, problem is that the VMs reset every day...
[19:19] <kasunbg> bubbasaures, sure thing.. thanks anyway..
[19:19] <bekks> nuke1989: So change the template where those vms are recreated from.
[19:20] <pacho__> hi everybody
[19:20] <daftykins> greetings!
[19:20] <nuke1989> bekks, thats interesting. I will try and see if i have permission to do  that. In any case you dont think there is an automatic way for any client to take the passwords?
[19:20] <AlexPortable> How can I disable someone shutting down my system? I don't want anyone to access the top bar when my screen is locked
[19:22] <pacho__> There are some women for questioning regarding their experiences in FLOSS
[19:22] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[19:26] <zzecool> Anyone having privileges errors after upgrade to 14.10   ?  When i try to run software updater it says that im not allowed to perform this action
[19:27] <heroku> ubuntu 12.04 server support sucks: how do I set locale, /etc/default/locale doesn't work!!!
[19:28] <zzecool> Same problem with synaptic if i try to run it form shell im getting "Starting "Synaptic Package Manager" without administrative privileges"
[19:28] <nopf> nuke1989: i have a script that loop-mounts the vm image/filesys and checks if my public key already is in .ssh/authorized_keys ... if not, it appends it to that file
[19:28] <pbx> heroku, say more about what you did , what you expected, what happened instead.   share a shell transcript if practical
[19:29] <bekks> heroku: No need for that language. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[19:30] <linus_> pbx: see what I did here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165059/how-to-set-lang-in-locale-despite-its-in-etc-default-locale-in-ubuntu-for-uni, bekks: I tried that!
[19:30] <nuke1989> nopf, i see. Well i will try something like that or i will try to make a script with plain old ssh command...
[19:30] <bekks> linus_: Better use that link from the official documentation.
[19:31] <linus_> bekks: I have LANG="en_US.UTF-8" as described in the official documentation, but it doesn't work, that's what I am asking here
[19:32] <nopf> nuke1989: btw what is the image format? if it's 2cow (from qemu) maybe i could paste you the few lines
[19:32] <bekks> linus_: You have to update the locales after setting that.
[19:32] <zzecool> Anyone having privileges errors after upgrade to 14.10   ?  When i try to run software updater it says that im not allowed to perform this action Same problem with synaptic if i try to run it form shell im getting "Starting "Synaptic Package Manager" without administrative privileges"
[19:33] <linus_> bekks: I ran locale-gen , and it's already up-to-date, I tried that
[19:33] <ohad> Hi, If I want to apt-miror both amd64 and i386 repos, I need to write in the configuration just deb? or deb+deb-amd64+deb-i386?
[19:34] <AlexPortable> What is better, install Nvidia 740M drivers, or keep it this way?
[19:34] <bekks> linus_: Did you run: sudo update-locale LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[19:34] <AlexPortable> I have nvidia 740m and hd400
[19:34] <AlexPortable> hd4000*
[19:34] <nabblet> hi, someone botched an ubuntu install - where's that website that tells you how to recover (your windows and ubuntu)? I can't find it ... my google-foo is weak I guess :P
[19:35] <nabblet> windows was installed first, after that ubunt. then the person toyed with the partitions in windows.
[19:35] <linus_> bekks: yes I have, and I have LANG="en_US.UTF-8" in my /etc/default/locale, I have done everything perfectly as described in official documentation and I reboot with sudo init 6 still It doesn't work
[19:35] <bekks> nabblet: "botched an install" - what exactly happens when doing what?
[19:35] <marcus_> list!
[19:36] <jptned> Anyone active here?
[19:36] <marcus_> list/
[19:36] <bekks> linus_: Can you pastebin /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment pleasE?
[19:36] <nabblet> bekks: when he tries to boot he get's grub's recovery mode. I think he messed up the partition table with windows so now grub can't find the bootloaders
[19:36] <bubbasaures> marcus_, No lists here
[19:36] <bekks> nabblet: So its time to restore your backups.
[19:36] <marcus_> ok
[19:36] <nabblet> bekks: the "secondary" ones that actually boot-strap the OS's
[19:36] <jptned> Anyone with knowledge about Postfix? I'm trying to build a mail server, but it won't work. :(
[19:36] <nabblet> bekks: did that. So a grub install will rediscover the partitions (and the boot loaders on it), right?
[19:37] <bekks> nabblet: Yeah.
[19:37] <nabblet> bekks: cheers :)
[19:38] <K4k> I get an error "found usr.sbin.sssd in /etc/apparmor.d/force-complain, forcing complain mode" at boot. I've configured sssd on this system with the same puppet profile as all the other systems on my network but none of them complain to my knowledge. Sssd fails to function as expected on this machine, thinking that this might be the reason. Any suggestions?
[19:39] <heroku> bekks: here's my pastebin for /etc/default/locale and /etc/environment http://pastebin.com/hhE9fxpX
[19:40] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[19:41] <K4k> hm, I take that back. Reading the docs on complain mode makes it sound like "permissive mode" on SELinux, that's probably not causing the issue, then.
[19:41] <OerHeks> heroku, drop the "
[19:43] <gorillaz> Anybody help how to install graphics driver for RV770 (Radeon HD 4870)
[19:44] <linus_> OerHeks: I dropped quotes now it looks like this , I run locale-gen, and sudo init 6, still it didn't work .. http://pastebin.com/p4pbRr0k
[19:45] <agliodbs> so, Levono Carbon vs. Asus Zenbook.  Opinions?
[19:48] <OerHeks> update-locale
[19:48] <deckard__> hello. what does a base update usually include ?
[19:49] <linus_> OerHeks: I did update-locale it has no effect
[19:50] <Sander^lap> Every time my hosts router restarts.. I loose network access at my guests.
[19:51] <Sander^lap> Do anyone know how I some how restarts virtualbox.. so the network is reset?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon in the terminal
[19:52] <gorillaz> BluesKaj open source driver?
[19:56] <ecolanirkoukkous> ubunty <2014
[19:56] <ansivirus> linus_, are you connecting via SSH to this box that you're seeing LANG=
[19:57] <linus_> ansivirus: yes ssh
[19:57] <linus_> I also use screen
[19:57] <ansivirus> in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config make sure you have UsePAM yes
[19:58] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, yes , from the repos
[19:58] <gorillaz> seems installed 0 changes
[20:00] <ansivirus> linus_, also in ~/.pam_environment make sure you have LANG=en_US and LANGUAGE=en_US
[20:01] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, then you already gave it installed
[20:01] <BluesKaj> have
[20:02] <Mightcould3> an application wants access to the keyring 'Default', but its locked. it wants a password but my password doesnt work?
[20:03] <Gl-l0ST> n the network list , i got an email in junk... verify your user name..
[20:03] <Gl-l0ST> sorry
[20:03] <gorillaz> BluesKaj huh well then its pretty bad, cuz my temps are 90 C right now
[20:03] <gorillaz> on iddle
[20:03] <gorillaz> In Windows its 45
[20:04] <Mightcould3> 90c omg shut it off
[20:04] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, whoa! definitely something not right there
[20:04] <Mightcould3> you can fry an egg on that
[20:05] <gorillaz> I can hear it pretty bad but i hope its hardware indicator sensors false info lol
[20:05] <gorillaz> >DF
[20:05] <noobieneedshelp> hi
[20:05] <noobieneedshelp> I need some help with my Ubuntu live usb
[20:06] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, desktop or :
[20:06] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:06] <gorillaz> desktop
[20:06] <noobieneedshelp> basically, I have Ubuntu 8.10 installed on a USB (it has to be 8.10 because of some old drivers)
[20:06] <noobieneedshelp> I installed it onto my hard drive
[20:06] <noobieneedshelp> I set 1GB of persistent storage when I made the usb
[20:06] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, do you have mesa-utils installed
[20:07] <linus_> ansivirus: see my updated pastebin, I followed your instructions, http://pastebin.com/p4pbRr0k, now LANGUAGE is set, but LANG is still empty, is that allright?
[20:07] <noobieneedshelp> is there a way to move everything saved on my usb's filesystem to my hard drive?
[20:07] <noobieneedshelp> drivers etc
[20:07] <gorillaz> BluesKaj mesa-utils: command not found
[20:07] <noobieneedshelp> because the .deb I downloaded yesterday is no longer available
[20:07] <nabblet> bekks: everything worked out nicely :) Thanks
[20:08] <noobieneedshelp> Is there a way to move drivers from my Live USB to my installed Ubuntu system?
[20:08] <noobieneedshelp> Drivers that I have installed on my live USB
[20:08] <BluesKaj> gorillaz, sudo apt- get install mesa-utils
[20:09] <gorillaz> BluesKaj installed
[20:09] <gorillaz> reboot?
[20:09] <bekks> gorillaz: No.
[20:10] <noobieneedshelp> Can someone help me with my issue?
[20:10] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: 8.10 is end of live for a long time now. Just move your personal data and reinstall a new 14.04
[20:10] <noobieneedshelp> Bekks
[20:10] <noobieneedshelp> I need to use 8.10
[20:10] <noobieneedshelp> I don't want anything else
[20:11] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: It is unsupported.
[20:11] <noobieneedshelp> I just want to move the drivers from my live usb to my system
[20:11] <noobieneedshelp> how can I do that?
[20:11] <noobieneedshelp> which folders?
[20:11] <Sheepolution> Hey there. I screwed up my Ubuntu quite a lot and stuff isn't working that I want to work. And reinstalling is probably the easiest and fastest way to fix all this.
[20:12] <DJones> noobieneedshelp: That won;t happen, 8.01 isn't supported for about 2-3 years
[20:12] <Sheepolution> Now the reinstallation page says: it is possible to reinstall Ubuntu without losing the content of the /home folder
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> ffs
[20:12] <bekks> Sheepolution: Only if /home is on a separate filesystem.
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> If I wanted to move drivers from my live usb to my system in 14.04
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> how would I do that?
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> would I move a folder?
[20:12] <noobieneedshelp> is there an application for it?
[20:12] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: You dont have 14.04. And you cant "move drivers" that way.
[20:13] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: You have to install a supported release.
[20:13] <noobieneedshelp> why?
[20:13] <Sheepolution> bekks: Oh? The page doesn't say that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[20:13] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: Because 8.10 is unsupported.
[20:13] <noobieneedshelp> I have to use 8.10 because the drivers have not been updated for a supported release
[20:13] <noobieneedshelp> there is no other option
[20:13] <OerHeks> drivers for what?
[20:13] <noobieneedshelp> my 56k modem
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> the last supported kernel was 2.6.27-7
[20:14] <Sheepolution> But it's a bit vague for me what files I keep and not.
[20:14] <DJones> noobieneedshelp: You'll nedd to contact your modem supplier
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> doesn't exist anymore
[20:14] <Sheepolution> And I'm afraid that I will keep files that might be the ones causing the problems.
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> they merged with another company
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> and no longer offer support
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> the driver works on my live usb
[20:14] <noobieneedshelp> I just want to move it
[20:14] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: Thats too bad, but it doesnt make your 8.10 being supported.
[20:15] <cubby_> does ubuntu server have a mail server built in, or do I need to install that?
[20:15] <cubby_> I'm a noob.
[20:15] <bekks> cubby_: you need to install it.
[20:15] <noobieneedshelp> bekks: seriously. this isn't about the version, it's about moving my drivers
[20:15] <cubby_> Thanks, bekks
[20:15] <noobieneedshelp> bekks: is there no way to move my drivers?
[20:15] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: Seriously, 8.10 is out of support.
[20:15] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: No, there is no way to just "move" drivers.
[20:16] <noobieneedshelp> bekks: that's all you had to tell me. ty.
[20:16] <bekks> noobieneedshelp: I did, two times already.
[20:16] <OerHeks> what modem exactly?
[20:17] <gorillaz> BluesKaj no other workaounds?
[20:18] <alo21> hi all
[20:19] <alo21> I can't start transmission due to a bug when I added a specific .torrent file
[20:19] <alo21> how can start a new session of transmission?
[20:20] <alo21> or delete al .torrent files that are downloading in transmission?
[20:21] <K4k> OK! I give up, why can't I restart the networking service? I've added a static IP definition in /etc/network/interfaces but it won't let me restart the network daemon and the old static IP is still set on reboot
[20:22] <K4k> the static IP that it keeps setting was set during install
[20:22] <K4k> if that helps
[20:22] <gorillaz> K4k have you tried from the wingpanel?
[20:22] <netlar> Which Wacom tablets are fully compatible with Ubuntu?
[20:22] <K4k> gorillaz: what's the wingpanel?
[20:22] <gorillaz> i mean from the dropmenu Enable Networking
[20:22] <gorillaz> taskbar
[20:22] <K4k> This is a headless server, no gui
[20:23] <OerHeks> alo21, remove /home/<user>/.config/transmission/settings.json and restart transmission?
[20:23] <gorillaz> i m out
[20:23] <noobieneedshelp> OerHeks: it's an Agere 11c11040
[20:23] <gorillaz> lol
[20:23] <K4k> ;)
[20:23] <noobieneedshelp> I found a driver for my kernel but the download is not working
[20:23]  * K4k pops his head in to #ubuntu-server
[20:23] <noobieneedshelp> any ideas where I might be able to find a mirror for a download?
[20:24] <alo21> OerHeks: I still have torrent in downloading
[20:24] <br1ckd> anyone know why apt is downloading at 5-75 KB/s when I can download an ISO from the same mirror at 1.5+ MB/s? Using HTTP for apt and the iso...
[20:25] <daftykins> br1ckd: just try running the auto select mirror or pick another one manually
[20:26] <OerHeks> alo21, remove them from  config/transmission/torrents/  and /resume/  ?
[20:27] <noobieneedshelp> hey guys - would a 56k dial up connection using my pc as a server be stable in a Live USB?
[20:27] <noobieneedshelp> Would the connection be stable and fast enough?
[20:28] <erkules> ahoi I read ubuntu 14.10 claims to do be able to do something like coreos. As a fact I didn't find out by what means? Is there docker integration for juju? Is there something else?
[20:29] <Mightcould3> noobieneedshelp, 56k dial up? im not sure if that still exist. if it does... dude seriously?
[20:29] <noobieneedshelp> it's not for internet browsing
[20:29] <noobieneedshelp> it's for my dreamcast lol
[20:29] <Paramezius> hello,  i'd like to try ubuntu touch with the ubuntu emulator
[20:29] <noobieneedshelp> so it can play games online using my pc as a server
[20:30] <Mightcould3> my phone gets 20mbps. i didnt know a company would still offer 56k. what would you do on it?
[20:30] <Paramezius> do you recomend me the ubuntu emulator included in the repositories of 14.04 or the phablet ppa?
[20:30] <noobieneedshelp> http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/#step3
[20:30] <noobieneedshelp> this explains it
[20:30] <Paramezius> arm or i386 image?
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> basically, instead of a dial-up ISP you use a computer as a router of sorts to play online
[20:31] <Mightcould3> yeah pretty sure 56k wont do any games. when i used to run a multiplayer KSP server most clients avr'd at 100 kbps.
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> mightcould3: this isn't for po games
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> read the link
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> it's designed for 56k
[20:31] <noobieneedshelp> pc*
[20:31] <Sheepolution> I probably know the answer, but just to be sure: If I installed Ubuntu on Drive A and have files on Drive B, and I reinstall Ubuntu completely, Drive B will be unharmed right?
[20:32] <Sheepolution> I'm paranoid
[20:32] <noobieneedshelp> yes SHeep
[20:32] <noobieneedshelp> Drive B will be fine
[20:32] <Mightcould3> well isnt that cute. good luck with it. dreamcast was one of my fav consoles :D
[20:32] <noobieneedshelp> yeah it's great
[20:34] <noobieneedshelp> Is there a way to 'merge' my Live USB filesystem with a hard disk-installed Ubuntu's filesystem?
[20:34] <popey> Paramezius: the ppa, definitely
[20:34] <noobieneedshelp> Like, move the all the files on my live usb filesystem to the hdd one?
[20:35] <Paramezius> popey, do you mean the phablet ppa?
[20:35] <popey> the ubuntu sdk ppa, yes
[20:35] <popey> for all of the sdk, what release you on?
[20:38] <jose__> hello
[20:41] <benzhninja> someone change their name to skylake
[20:42] <the_drow_> Is it worthwhile to install Mir on my laptop (ubuntu 14.10)?
[20:42] <benzhninja> if you change your name to skylake
[20:42] <the_drow_> How much things will break? Can I switch back to xorg?
[20:43] <Paramezius> popey, i'm on 14.04
[20:43] <the_drow_> benzhninja: and that's the dev of Mir?
[20:43] <benzhninja> please
[20:43] <alo21> OerHeks: it works thanks :)
[20:44] <OerHeks> alo21, have fun
[20:44] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Anyone here good with touch screens?  I installed ubuntu 14.04 and use xrandr to rotate the screen -90'.  Now when I do xinput_calibrator it pops the calibration screen up but it only shows the right hand side of the sccreen
[20:45] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> is there any way to get my touch to rotate as well?
[20:45] <popey> Paramezius: so yes, definitely use the ppa
[20:45] <alo21> How can I enable my trash in Ubuntu?
[20:47] <hayer_> What user runs the "nfs auto mount"-thingy?
[20:49] <brainwash> the_drow_: do you plan to test unity8?
[20:49] <Paramezius> popey, thanks a lot. One more thing. do you recomend me the arm or the i386 image?
[20:50] <popey> Paramezius: the i386 one is way faster
[20:51] <Paramezius> thanks a lot popey  :)
[20:51] <brainwash> the_drow_: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/mir-devel/2014-October/000908.html
[20:52] <Squidward> how do i use ntfs as root fs
[20:52] <brainwash> you don't
[20:52] <Squidward> why not
[20:52] <popey> Paramezius: no problem, #ubuntu-app-devel is where other like minded devs hang out
[20:52] <the_drow_> brainwash: hahahaha
[20:53] <hayer_> how can I add a user to a group? "sudo adduser username groupname"?
[20:53] <popey> Squidward: ntfs doesn't support some of the things we need (like symlinks)
[20:53] <Squidward> oh
[20:54] <solars> hi, does anyone know how to get more than 30hz with 2560x1440 over HDMI with an intel graphics hd 4400?
[20:54] <popey> solars: dont you need dual dvi for that?
[20:54] <solars> popey, well I got 30hz working
[20:54] <solars> popey, but I have no clue and it's a laptop with only hdmi
[20:55] <popey> solars: pretty sure it needs dual dvi to get higher bandwidth.. i may be wrong
[20:55] <popey> solars: from googling it looks like that video card doesn't support it
[20:55] <popey> solars: e.g. https://communities.intel.com/thread/30360
[20:56] <solars> popey, I found this: http://www.notebookcheck.net/2560x1440-or-2560x1600-via-HDMI.92840.0.html
[20:56] <popey> "Intel graphics does not support dual-link, therefore 1920x1200 is the maximum for DVI and HDMI, 2560x1440 is only possible with a displayport port"
[20:56] <solars> well I currently run 2560x1440@30hz
[20:56] <popey> right, which is as high as you can get
[20:57] <Xaphod2> hi. i just updated 14.04 -> 14.10, and my kernel version is 3.14.x. How can I get to 3.16.x? I need the HW support. thx
[20:57] <solars> popey, there is also the option with 50 as written in the link I posted
[20:57] <solars> but I'm not sure if that's only for the hd 4000
[20:57] <popey> Xaphod2: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[20:57] <Xaphod2> thanks will try that
[20:57] <popey> np
[20:58] <popey> Xaphod2: the upgrade _should_ have updated to that
[20:58] <popey> Xaphod2: you may want to also run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^" to see if there's anything else missing (assumiung you use unity based ubuntu and not kubuntu/xubuntu etc)
[20:58] <Xaphod2> I think i might have uninstalled the generic, in favor for a specific 3.14.x, because there was some 3.14.x update that didn’t work for me
[20:58] <popey> Xaphod2: note that hat ^
[20:59] <popey> that might have done it, yes
[20:59] <Xaphod2> thanks ok will check that. What does the carat mean?
[20:59] <popey> re-install the task, which will pull in any missing bits that should be there
[20:59] <hayer_> "mount.nfs: Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd." -- what do? I don't want local locks(bad when multiple users from different machines using the same storage?). "sudo service statd" -> running. Help?!
[20:59] <solars> popey, did you see the statement about 50hz?
[21:00] <popey> solars: i did. dunno what to say.
[21:00] <popey> solars: pretty sure you've hit the max HDMI can do
[21:00] <solars> :/
[21:00] <solars> well for working 30hz is okay
[21:01] <solars> I use the laptop only for work
[21:02] <Faultier> hey guys, i'm new to ubuntu and i would like to know if there is a channel for specific questions if there are any problems
[21:03] <daftykins> Faultier: this is the support channel
[21:03] <Faultier> okay thanks
[21:04] <brainwash> !ask
[21:05] <popey> Faultier: yeah, you found it, welcome! :D
[21:05] <Logicwrath> im confushed about hostnames, should i use ubuntu or ubuntu.domain.net when i am asked during installation, i plan on having it resolve from an A record
[21:05] <popey> you can use either and modify it later
[21:05] <popey> its not crucial to set the hostname in stone during install
[21:06] <Faultier> i'm just wondering why ubuntu hasn´t xchat pre-installed like Mint
[21:06] <popey> Faultier: most users dont use irc
[21:06] <bekks> Logicwrath: the hostname is "yourhostname" and the full qualified domain name is "yourhostname.domain.tld"
[21:06] <popey> (strange though that seems)
[21:06] <Logicwrath> to be clear, during installation it is requesting hostname and not fqdn
[21:07] <Logicwrath> so i should skip the fqdn during install?
[21:07] <popey> Logicwrath: i generally just put hostname, and modify after.
[21:07] <popey> Logicwrath: you can, yes.
[21:07] <bekks> Logicwrath: Actually it is just requesting a hostname.
[21:07] <popey> it will work fine, you can modify it after
[21:07] <compdoc> is it better to define a fqdn during install?
[21:07] <popey> it doesnt matter
[21:07] <bekks> compdoc: It doesnt matter :)
[21:07] <Faultier> Popey What do you mean most users dont use irc in ubuntu, what do they use instead?
[21:07] <popey> takes 2 mins to change later
[21:07] <popey> Faultier: most Ubuntu users don't use IRC at all
[21:08] <Faultier> so how do they get help if they need it?
[21:08] <Filthy> how do they wind up here??
[21:08] <bekks> Filthy: Using forumns, e.g.
[21:08] <kjelle> .o/
[21:08] <popey> Faultier: depends, people may have technical friends, or family
[21:08] <Faultier> i dont rly like forums and familiar things
[21:08] <popey> or they might use forums, askubuntu or mailing lists
[21:09] <popey> we have a _lot_ of support options, irc is just one
[21:09] <bekks> Faultier: you dont have to, but others do.
[21:09] <Faultier> i know ^
[21:09] <kjelle> Im trying to use libpam-ldap libnss-ldap but for some reason the AD account must also exist locally for SSH to work.. Anyone have any idea why that is? pretty basic and plain config.
[21:09] <popey> there's 1800 people here, which represents 0.003% or so of the ubuntu userbase ☻
[21:09] <CoC_towlie> has anyone got Xchat to work with tor inside a VM?
[21:09] <bekks> CoC_towlie: People did, yes.
[21:10] <Faultier> see, in my enviremont i am the only one using linux and i'm thinking about to replace my win 7 with ubuntu
[21:10] <CoC_towlie> i followed this guide verbatim but xchat can not connect
[21:11] <CoC_towlie> lilith-lela.bogspot.com/2012/01/xchat-with-tor-for-freenode-on.html
[21:12] <bekks> Nice try. Spam link. Ignore set.
[21:13] <SchrodingersScat> I also only get spam in that link.
[21:14] <SchrodingersScat> hopefully links2 doesn't help out much
[21:15] <larsmw> Schrodingers Cat,  Are you there??
[21:17] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> OK, fixed the xinput_calibration problem, had to disable a 2nd screen.  Now when I do the calibration is seems to accept it but doesnt stick.
[21:17] <dialupnewb> Hi
[21:18] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: run it from a terminal
[21:18] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> I am
[21:18] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> I ran xinput_calibration from terminal
[21:18] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> shoudl I do it before the desktop starts?
[21:18] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: doesn't it tell you exactly what to do to make the calibration permanent?
[21:18] <dialupnewb> I have an Ubuntu live usb. If I were to use it as a dialup server on my computer, would the connection be stable/fast enough (for a 56k connection)?
[21:19] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> Let me double check, not that I could see
[21:19] <dialupnewb> I'm talking about a PC-Dreamcast dial-up connection btw
[21:19] <bekks> dialupnewb: a 56k connection is not fast enough for almost anything nowadays.
[21:19] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: it gave me a text. something like take this snippet and put it in usr/shareblabla
[21:19] <dialupnewb> bekks: it's the correct speed for the dreamcast modem
[21:19] <dialupnewb> look it up
[21:19] <dialupnewb> it's a dialup connection
[21:20] <daftykins> dialupnewb: my understanding is all functionality got turned off for the DC anyway.
[21:20] <SchrodingersScat> dialupnewb: I'd put a bet on it probably would work, maybe little laggy, but once it's up it should be good?
[21:20] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> is there a way to make it show my real time touches??
[21:20] <dialupnewb> daftykins: the servers were turned off. however, it's pretty easy to use a pc as one with linux
[21:20] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> so I can where its registering relative to my touches?
[21:21] <dialupnewb> SchrodingersScat: I'll try it as soon as I get an RJ11 cable online. Thanks.
[21:21] <daftykins> dialupnewb: a PC as one what?
[21:21] <dialupnewb> A dialup server
[21:21] <daftykins> dialupnewb: right but what does getting it online allow you to do?
[21:21] <dialupnewb> http://www.dreamcast-scene.com/guides/pc-dc-server-guide-win7/
[21:21] <dialupnewb> Play games online, download free DLC for Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure, etc
[21:21] <dialupnewb> browse the internet with a browser
[21:22] <dialupnewb> it's mainly for the free DLC and the online multiplayer like Phantasy Star Online V2\
[21:22] <daftykins> well, good luck then
[21:22] <dialupnewb> ty
[21:22] <jimmy51v_> !info libgcrypt
[21:22] <jimmy51v_> !info libgcrypt11
[21:22] <cognitiaclaeves> I've broken grub.  How do I get it to boot again?
[21:22] <cognitiaclaeves> *grub2
[21:22] <dialupnewb> SchrodingersScat: would the connection be any different in terms of stability to a hard-disk installed Ubuntu?
[21:23] <dialupnewb> because I do have Ubuntu on my HDD, it's just that the drivers for my modem are on the USB and I can't figure out how to move them :(
[21:23] <SchrodingersScat> dialupnewb: while i had a dreamcast, and played some PSO, I don't know how I could estimate that :/
[21:23] <dialupnewb> you sold the DC?
[21:24] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Depends on what got broke where, maybe as simple as (re-)installing grub from a liveDVD. Is this a EFI based system ?
[21:24] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, I don't think it is.  I disabled it from BIOS and it still seems to boot.
[21:24] <Squidward> vote charlie baker ma 2014
[21:24] <sregister> cognitiaclaeves: I would go Bashing-om
[21:25] <sregister> route of fixing
[21:25] <Squidward> vote charlie baker ma 2014
[21:25] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, Does it need to be installed from a liveDVD?  I booted into Ubuntu using supergrub 2.
[21:25] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Let's look, and make sure of what we are working with : sudo parted -l | pastebinit .
[21:27] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Nopoe, IF you can boot into the install .. just figure out weather it is a EFI partition involved. and try to (re)-install grub, see what happens.
[21:27] <cognitiaclaeves> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8751896/
[21:27] <Semajnad> Where's the best place to save general files in Linux that can be accessed by all users. For example, on Windows you might create C:/NewFolder to share files across all users.
[21:27] <cognitiaclaeves> There's no /boot/efi ... that makes it non-efi, right?
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[21:28] <dialupnewb> Is there a way to make a .squashfs filesystem a normal directory?
[21:29] <dialupnewb> If possible, I'd like to merge the drivers from my live usb with those on my hdd (same version of Ubuntu)
[21:29] <Semajnad> What's the best way to remotely connect to a ubuntu-desktop session so it asks for the users login and more then one user can be logged in at once. Stuff like RealVNC and Teamviewer obviously connect directly to the server and are not session based.
[21:29] <del_> Semajnad: Do you have more than one user?
[21:29] <quitte> Semajnad: /tmp ;). who do you want to be the owner of the shared files?
[21:29] <ikonia> dialupnewb: they are already the same
[21:29] <Semajnad> quitte: del_: we havae 3 users and want some files shared between them all
[21:30] <Semajnad> quitte: But they are not Temp files?
[21:30] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, do I reinstall grub with grub-install ?
[21:30] <dialupnewb> ikonia: I installed some drivers on the usb (persistent storage of 1GB)
[21:30] <quitte> Semajnad: you can have permissions such that parts of your home are accessible by others
[21:30] <ikonia> dialupnewb: which ones ?
[21:30] <dialupnewb> ikonia: I'd like to access those drivers as I can't download them anymore
[21:30] <del_> Semajnad: It really doesn't matter. Just the current user's directory would be fine.  Just create  direcory /home/Semajnad/Share
[21:30] <Semajnad> quitte: If we are running game servers, what's the best way to do it. User per game server, or individual users for admins who can all aaccess the game server files?
[21:30] <dialupnewb> ikonia: here's the driver download, lol:http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/11c11040/agrsm-2.6.27-7-generic_2.6.27-7.14_i386.deb
[21:30] <quitte> Semajnad I guess you could create a fourth users where everyone can create files in his home directory and then he owns them
[21:31] <Semajnad> quitte:  Nice idea :)
[21:31] <dialupnewb> ikonia: it isn't working for me
[21:31] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Sorry, but I must run away from this one, as I know nothing about encryption. I do not know how grub works with encrypted partitions.
[21:31] <ikonia> dialupnewb: define "not working for you"
[21:31] <dialupnewb> ikonia: it won't download
[21:31] <del_> Semajnad: Have it owned by a group that You're user and the oters also belong to.
[21:31] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, /boot ( sda5 ) is not encrypted.
[21:31] <quitte> Semajnad: well that sounds like the admin is the owner. then it goes in /usr/local/
[21:31] <dialupnewb> ikonia: network timeout. I think it's down
[21:32] <ikonia> dialupnewb: what version of ubuntu are you using
[21:32] <Semajnad> quitte: We have 3 admins who manage them. So I don't want any of them owning the files inidividually. So I created a group called server-admin and made the 3 users owners of that group. My plan was to use a shared place to store the files, make the group own the files, then let the individuaal users manage them that waya.
[21:32] <dialupnewb> ikonia: outdated but that isn't really relevant. 8.10
[21:32] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Thgink'n .
[21:32] <ikonia> it is relevant
[21:32] <dialupnewb> ikonia: and no I can't nor do I want to upgrade
[21:32] <Semajnad> users of that group sorry*
[21:32] <Bashing-om> think'n*
[21:32] <quitte> Semajnad: so make a directory group writable in /home ?
[21:32] <ikonia> dialupnewb: ok, then support ends
[21:33] <dialupnewb> ikonia: ikr
[21:33] <Semajnad> quitte: Okay thanks, I'll do that then. Just create /home/server-files
[21:33] <ikonia> this channel only supports in support release, so good luck, find the module in the kernel tree and move it across to your other system
[21:33] <ikonia> good luck
[21:34] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, just tell me how it would work without encryption...
[21:34] <quitte> Semajnad: look into the set group id bit
[21:34] <Semajnad> quitte: How do I create a directory in /home when a normal aadministrator account does not have access? Should you enable root to do this or is there a preferred way.
[21:35] <quitte> Semajnad: http://xkcd.com/149/
[21:36] <ikonia> how is that helpful ?
[21:36] <Semajnad> quitte: Oh damn ye
[21:36] <Semajnad> quitte: Thanks
[21:36] <Semajnad> *And the penny drops*
[21:37] <lultron> self validating : http://pastebin.com/QnHSbAYj
[21:37] <ikonia> lultron: ?
[21:37] <lultron> topic validated in 372 lines
[21:37] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, I think I found my answer here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2_from_a_Working_System
[21:38] <ikonia> lultron: it's nothing to do with this channel, or any of the other channels your posting it in
[21:38] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Again I am not at all sure, but maybe try: -> sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda <- from the ubuntu install. see if sda5 /boot is picked up.
[21:38] <ikonia> lultron: please stick to ubuntu discussion in this channel
[21:38] <Sheepolution> The reinstall page says that I must use the same username and password, but that's only when doing a soft reinstall right?
[21:38] <jimmy51v_> can't get VPN to connect. http://pastebin.ca/2866453 <-- anything in there stand out as an obvious issue?
[21:38] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, Yes I got that but the config does not work
[21:38] <lultron> ikonia it is discussed in the article how best to use ubuntu
[21:38] <lultron> so i find you incorrect
[21:38] <Sheepolution> Where I don't reset the homefolder
[21:38] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, it tells me to make a script that runs at startup
[21:38] <del_> Semajnad: groupadd -g 211 wheel && usemod -a -G wheel Semajnad   #And add other users to it in the same way.  And then have the directory owned by the group. mkdir /home/Semajnad/Share && sudo chown Semajnad:wheel /home/Semajnad/Share
[21:38] <lultron> you didn't read it
[21:38] <lultron> rtfm and stfu tx
[21:38] <ikonia> lultron: again - nothing to do with this channel
[21:39] <lultron> http://pastebin.com/QnHSbAYj you decide
[21:39] <Ben64> del_: ubuntu doesn't use wheel
[21:39] <Semajnad> del_: I don't get it :/ I was just going to do chown on the /home/shared-files folder to the group?
[21:39] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, but it does not work in the first place :(.  It appears that is KNOWS what is wrong and that it needs to reverse the axis as well so I am a little confused
[21:39] <del_> Ben64: ubuntu uses any group you want it to.
[21:39] <cognitiaclaeves> Bashing-om, hmm ... hadn't heard of --recheck
[21:39] <Ben64> del_: ok well, wheel has no effect
[21:40] <Semajnad> del_: Oh thaat's just adding Semaajnaad to the group wheel (sorry for the aaaa's btw, my keyboard is screwed atm)
[21:40] <del_> Ben64: wheel is just a name
[21:40] <Ben64> del_: Semajnad already has a group name, why change it? and why change it to wheel
[21:41] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: --recheck does just that .. if files are missing will create them.
[21:41] <del_> Ben64: It is the name of a group
[21:41] <cognitiaclaeves> Thanks, Bashing-om .  I'm going to give it a shot now.
[21:41] <Semajnad> Ben64: del_ I've changed the users daniel, felix and nathan to the group server-admin, then going to make server-admin own /home/shared-files
[21:41] <Ben64> Semajnad: yep
[21:41] <Semajnad> Ben64: Nice.
[21:41] <Semajnad> del_: Thanks
[21:42] <del_> Ben64: A user can be member of as many groups as you want.
[21:42] <Ben64> del_: you're not understanding
[21:42] <Semajnad> Last question, what's the best waay to remote connect to ubuntu-desktop. I tried VNC servers but they don't connect using sessions, they just connect directly. I want it so when I connect it asaks for the users login / password :/
[21:42] <Semajnad> I tried XRDP but people said it wont work with ubuntu-desktop
[21:43] <del_> Ben64: *You* are not understanding.  groupadd creates a *new* group.  (I just use the name wheel as an example. You can use any group name you want, but wheel will work just fine.)
[21:43] <Ben64> del_: but he already has a group! why add another! why wheel! wheel is used in other distros for something very particular!
[21:43] <Nothing_Much> Having MAJOR problem with 750 Ti crashing Unity/Compiz
[21:43] <Nothing_Much> Ubuntu 14.10
[21:44] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: I have the same problem, I think
[21:44] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: bay trail tablet per chance?
[21:44] <lvleph> When trying to run '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service' I get 'GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such interface (g-dbus-error-quark, 16)', but I am doing this outside of unity. Any idea what I should have run first?
[21:44] <del_> Ben64: Do we care that other distro's use the same group name?  Or user name for that matter?  If another PC has a gourp or user name that is the same as the one you are on now, do you care?
[21:44] <Nothing_Much> Ubuntu 14.10, having MAJOR problems with 750 Ti crashing Compiz/Unity, errors in the Xorg.0.log show ^@^@^@^@^@
[21:44] <Ben64> del_: it could confuse other users, but you're missing the main point, which is that HE ALREADY HAS MADE A GROUP
[21:45] <Nothing_Much> I am using the latest stable 340 drivers, btw
[21:45] <cognitiaclaeves> Thanks, Bashing-om .  That did the trick!
[21:45] <Bashing-om> cognitiaclaeves: Great ! I had my fingers crossed .
[21:45] <cognitiaclaeves> :)
[21:46] <del_> Ben64: So he can use the group he just made then.  That is ok.  I was just showing the complete operation.  Again it does *not* matter what the name of the goup is.  It can be pineapple if you want.
[21:46] <Ben64> del_: i'm glad you figured that out after so many lines of pointless argument
[21:46] <quitte> Nothing_Much: is your PSU plenty beefy enough?
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> quitte, No I am using a chinese IR touch screen overlay on 42" TV
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> I can tell for sure that its getting an input
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> and the coordinates are right
[21:47] <del_> Ben64: Maybe it is pointless argument but maybe you learned a little from it :)
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> its even recognizing that it should invert axiw
[21:47] <Ben64> del_: there was nothing to learn from you
[21:47] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> but its acting like its taking its own advice ;)
[21:48] <RaMcHiP-Mobile> like its NOT taking its own advice
[21:48] <needhelp> Hi
[21:48] <needhelp> I need some help with this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/113588/install-from-persistent-liveusb-including-files-changes-on-casper-rw
[21:48] <Semajnad> del_: I've put them in a group called server-admins, then chmod 774 /home/shared-files, but they still can not create directories inside shared-files. Should server-admins be those users primary group?
[21:48] <quitte> RaMcHiP-Mobile: how do you do the testing? here i see that it reacts to touch but i have no idea if the coordinates match anything
[21:49] <Semajnad> If I do chmod 777 they can, so to me that seems like they are not part of the group?
[21:49] <needhelp> I can't figure out how to move my persistent usb's files onto a new install
[21:49] <quitte> i think iut even got worse after putting the snippet in the config file
[21:49] <Nothing_Much> quitte: Yes, it's 430 watts
[21:49] <del_> Semajnad: Uesers will need to log out and back in again for changes to be effective.