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[10:03] <niblets> I have a question about Konqueror, when I am browsing the net, if I dont click a link or a refresh every ten-fifteen seconds, it dsiconnects from the server, and then when I do link somewhere, it takes extra time to start up and then start downloading again. Si tehre any way I can cahnge it to have a 2min countdown or anything close?
[10:05] <niblets> any ideas?
[10:05] <llutz> moin
[10:06] <vorpal> does the same happen in firefox/opera/lynx/whatever
[10:06] <vorpal> ?
[10:07] <niblets> vorpal_I dont have any other web browsers, I havent had a chance to install them, as I only upgraded to edgy yesterday
[10:08] <vorpal> well it sounds like a problem somewhere other than in konqueror.
[10:08] <vorpal> is it dialup or cable/ADSL?
[10:10] <niblets> DSL, its nothing to do with the network speeds, as when I give it a task, it takes tiem only to restart the server, yet when it loads the actual page data, is it as quick as normal
[10:10] <niblets> I was just querying whether it was a timer function set in Konqueror, as it is not only web-based, and if it can be changed
[10:11] <vorpal> niblets: i was about to ask if other things could get online with out probs and suggest you try seeing if konversation would work.... then i realised i'm stupid
[10:11] <vorpal> lol
[10:12] <niblets> vorpal: dont worry about it, I have had blonde moments today, havent slept in over 48 hours, so I though I'd give up searching through Konsole and ask someone who knows what they are doing
[10:13] <tomlikestorock> in windows you can hold down alt and then type on the number pad to get different ascii characters, or use charmap to get them as well. how do you do this in kde?
[10:14] <niblets> vorpal: I am also on Kopete, so it hasnt anything to do with the connection.
[10:15] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: there's kcharselect
[10:15] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: although personally i prefer gnome-character-map
[10:15] <tomlikestorock> can you still do the numpad ascii chars?
[10:16] <JohnFlux> nah
[10:16] <tomlikestorock> or something like it?
[10:16] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: what sort of characters are you after?
[10:16] <vorpal> niblets: was it a clean install or an upgrade?
[10:16] <tomlikestorock> the squared number
[10:16] <tomlikestorock> 2 superscript
[10:17] <JohnFlux> alt+2
[10:17] <JohnFlux>
[10:17] <JohnFlux> alt+gr 2
[10:17] <niblets> vorpal: I installed Kubuntu 6.06 then upgraded to edgy straight away. So not exactly a clean install.
[10:17] <JohnFlux> the alt on the right hand side
[10:17] <tomlikestorock> not on this laptop :(
[10:18] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: if you setup scim input, then you can type in the characters much easier
[10:18] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: unfortunately it's still a bit of a pain to setup
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> forget it then :)
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> kcharselect will work for now
[10:19] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: hmm.  you only have one alt key?
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> nope, too
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> but alt gr doesn't do anything
[10:19] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: use gnome character map
[10:19] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: oh
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> yeah
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> 's weird
[10:19] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: press alt-gr 2    does nothing?
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> yup, nothing
[10:19] <tomlikestorock> well, I get a 2
[10:20] <tomlikestorock> but not a super script two
[10:20] <JohnFlux> what about alt-gr [  then e
[10:20] <JohnFlux>
[10:20] <tomlikestorock> [e
[10:20] <tomlikestorock> heh
[10:20] <JohnFlux> hmmmm
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> I'm not worried about it
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> thanks, though
[10:21] <JohnFlux> you might be able to check in the system settings
[10:21] <JohnFlux> and check that alt-gr  is setup as the compose key
[10:21] <JohnFlux> it's really useful to have
[10:21] <vorpal> niblets: The only thing i can think of is a brute force solution of uninstalling konqueror and deleting any files in .kde/share/* that have konqueror in the name then reinstalling konqueror
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> oh, also ,I just recently saw a crap ton of updates come down the pipe - what was up with that?
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> ?
[10:21] <tomlikestorock> does that have anything to do with the release of the new feisty?
[10:22] <vorpal> or just using firefox
[10:22] <JohnFlux> tomlikestorock: dunno
[10:22] <JohnFlux> niblets: what's the problem sorry?
[10:22] <niblets> vorpal: I might try firefox first. I know its bad, but where can I get ahold of it? Never used it before
[10:23] <niblets> johnflux: (REPEAT) I have a question about Konqueror, when I am browsing the net, if I dont click a link or a refresh every ten-fifteen seconds, it dsiconnects from the server, and then when I do link somewhere, it takes extra time to start up and then start downloading again. Si tehre any way I can cahnge it to have a 2min countdown or anything close?
[10:23] <musya> is there a flash player for kubuntu that works as far as web apps go?
[10:23] <vorpal> open up a konsole and type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:24] <niblets> vorpal: Cheers
[10:24] <vorpal> musya: the package for the firefox plugin works
[10:25] <musya> i cant view them
[10:25] <JohnFlux> niblets: from a konsole, do  "ping slashdot.org"
[10:25] <JohnFlux> niblets: it should say: PING slashdot.org (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[10:26] <JohnFlux> niblets: it should say that immediately
[10:26] <niblets> it does
[10:27] <vorpal> musya: you need to download it first (and then restart konqueror). Type the following in konsole: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <JohnFlux> niblets: hmm, not a resolving problem then
[10:28] <JohnFlux> niblets: ask on #khtml  although people might not be awake yet
[10:28] <musya> i would assume that its not free then?
[10:28] <niblets> musya: It is free, dont worry about the name
[10:29] <vorpal> not free in terms of freedom
[10:29] <niblets> JohnFlux: Will do, cheers
[10:29] <JohnFlux> musya: free as in money, not free as in freedom
[10:29] <JohnFlux> musya: it is free as in money, not free as in freedom
[10:29] <musya> oh,ok, well ill get it figured out then i saw it before just thought it wasnt free, ok thanks!
[10:29] <niblets> Yea, I had to get my flash plugins sorted today, threw me off too, but Linux is pretty much 1005free. as far as I know
[10:30] <vorpal> there it also flashplayer-mozzila which is free in both senses, but doesn't work with all sites (including youtube)
[10:30] <niblets> *%
[10:31] <niblets> JohnFlux: what should I be asking khtml?
[10:31] <JohnFlux> how to fix your problem :P
[10:31] <JohnFlux> just say what you said here
[10:31] <vorpal> niblets: the same thing you asked here
[10:32] <vorpal> khtml is the engine that konqueror uses
[10:32] <vorpal> all the konqueror devs and stuff hang out there
[10:32] <niblets> vorpal: Ohk, sorry. I'm kinda new to Linux
[10:32] <vorpal> don't be sorry
[10:33] <vorpal> that's what this place is for
[10:33] <vorpal> niblets: did firefox work?
[10:35] <niblets> vorpal: I am going to wait until morning, I havent slept in a while, and I don't think I can manage setting up another program today. I'd probably spaz out and pull Linux off my machine =D I will do it in the morning, when I finish sorting out Beryl (pain in the bum)
[10:36] <vorpal> beryl? you're brave
[10:36] <vorpal> firefox should just work without any probs
[10:36] <vorpal> no set up required
[10:36] <vorpal> anyway night
[10:37] <niblets> Aye, I got it to work, and all was fine, then it suddenly decided not to load any images. So I had to restart session, and am yet to brave fixing it. Though all I really need to do is make sure the drivers are all set in zeroconf.
[10:37] <niblets> *any images meaning ANYTHING at all
[10:38] <seven11> jbruckman: do you have tracker problems? keeps telling me that tracker is invalid
[10:40] <niblets> vorpal: have you tried Beryl?
[10:42] <vorpal> niblets: no way. my laptop is from the mid ninties. I need to use the alternative install CD cause it doesn't have enough ram. Beryl would melt my motherboard
[10:43] <edgy> Hi, how can I change the screen color depth in kubuntu?
[10:44] <niblets> vorpal: Even when I got it working, my P4 had trouble with it when it was fully equipped with all the berries and sweets. Makes for some excellent eye candy, but all I really want is the cube change and thats it.
[10:44] <vorpal> niblets: how's this for a deal: You buy me a laptop that can run beryl and i'll give you all the support you ever need :P
[10:45] <vorpal> yeah i've seen it in action. It's pretty sweet, but i'm not really that big a fan of eyecandy
[10:46] <niblets> vorpal: Hows this for a better deal, you give me the laptop and Support. And I'll TELL you what its like =D
[10:46] <vorpal> niblets: btw, you can change virtual desktops with plain old kde without beryl (sorry since you are new to linux you might not know)
[10:47] <vorpal> lol
[10:47] <vorpal> i think not
[10:47] <niblets> vorpal: Yea, I have got 6 set up. I just like the spinnyness. =P
[10:47] <vorpal> :)
[10:47] <vorpal> fair enough
[10:48] <niblets> and the fact taht I have a software program that allows for a different image on each desktop. which is plain awesome
[10:48] <vorpal> what is it? I thought kde let you do that
[10:49] <vorpal> i dunno i haven't used kde in ages
[10:49] <niblets> I dont actually know, a friend of mine set it up (and helped with a lot of this installation) But I am not sure if KDE has that software, I might look for it though. I'd use it
[10:52] <niblets> vorpal: Catch you another time maybe. I am hitting the shower, then I might be on after, if I can stay awake. the 48+ hours is getting to me
[10:53] <vorpal> cya
[10:53] <vorpal> hope kubunt works out for ya
[10:55] <jbruckman> seven11: no, i have no tracker problems.
[10:55] <jbruckman> seven11: are you sure that it's not your torrent?
[10:56] <jbruckman> seven11: i'm getting 300Kb/s DL and 600 Kb/S UL
[10:56] <seven11> problem solved thanks again
[11:05] <edgy> Sirs, how can I install a downloaded .deb so it install its dependencies automatically?
[11:06] <jbruckman> just use sudo apt-get install <package>
[11:06] <jbruckman> if you can
[11:06] <vorpal> edgy: as in a package that isn't available thru the ubuntu repositories?
[11:07] <berkes> my adept updater just performed a huge upgrade of all sorts of kde upgrades. Where whas that for?
[11:07] <Jucato> no you can't do that with deb
[11:08] <Jucato> berkes: most probably bug fixes and patches that have been waiting since Edgy was released
[11:08] <Jucato> edgy: you can't do that with .deb packages, such is the nature of the .deb (same goes for .rpm)
[11:09] <seven11> jbruckman: nice speed i sit on a 21 km2 island in the gulf of thailand and i am happy if i get 30 kb/s :)
[11:09] <vorpal> berkes: its nothing to worry about, it happens all the time
[11:09] <jbruckman> seven11: haha, nice
[11:10] <berkes> vorpal: yes, I know, but never this much.
[11:10] <berkes> this was about 80M of kde libs and so. But I thought it would've been an general bugfix release thingy :)
[11:10] <Jucato> berkes: a lot of bugs and patches from KDE were released just a few days since edgy was released. what's surprising is that it only came now
[11:11] <Jucato> of course, presuming this update was for those bugs....
[11:13] <edgy> vorpal: yes, webmin exactly
[11:13] <edgy> Jucato: so what shall I do?
[11:15] <dan__> Hello, everyone... I can't compile my kernel, I get an odd error... Is there a special channel for this topic, or could anyone help me here? Thanks.
[11:15] <edgy> vorpal, Jucato: dpkg -i would install webmin and leave apt-get in a non-stable stage due to the missing packages
[11:15] <edgy> dan__: I guess you can ask here
[11:17] <vorpal> edgy: just make sure you have all the dependincies before you run dpkg and it should be right
[11:18] <edgy> vorpal: how can I tell the dependencies in advance?
[11:18] <bmcage> does somebody here now how to remove an entry from system:/remote ?
[11:19] <vorpal> edgy: where did you get it?
[11:19] <vorpal> did they tell you?
[11:19] <dan__> edgy: After make modules, I get this; make[3] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.o'.  Stop. ; What shoul I do?
[11:20] <edgy> vorpal: from webmin site
[11:20] <edgy> vorpal: I can't find it in their site
[11:22] <vorpal> well you could run dpkg -i see its errors and then run dpkg -r (that's remove) and then install all the dependencies
[11:22] <djdarkman> hy ,how can I share my internet connection ,what do I have to set?
[11:23] <jbruckman> whatare some good photo editors for kubuntu?
[11:23] <edgy> dan__: I don't know but perhaps someone else can help you
[11:23] <edgy> jbruckman: krita maybe
[11:24] <jbruckman> edgy: thanks!
[11:24] <djdarkman> what do I have to set up to be able to share my internet connection
[11:25] <edgy> djdarkman: one of those firewalls programs I guess
[11:25] <Frederick> folks wich is the comand n the american kb to display de symbol used for degrees and numbers as first second and so on?
[11:26] <dan__> After setting the config and trying "make modules", it starts, and then I get this: make[3] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/gx-suspmod.o'.  Stop.
[11:26] <dan__> Does anyone have an idea?
[11:26] <ScarFreewill> !java
[11:26] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:27] <djdarkman> how can I quickle enable the net sharing?
[11:28] <Frederick> does kde has any character map aplication?
[11:28] <djdarkman> I mean what is the iptables command that resets the firewall settings?
[11:30] <llutz> iptables -X
[11:30] <kraut> moin
[11:31] <edgy> Frederick: why not you try charmap
[11:33] <gabry2887> ciao a tutti
[11:33] <gabry2887> :)
[11:34] <edgy> djdarkman: try firestarter
[11:35] <Jucato> Frederick: kcharselect, I think
[11:35] <Jucato> !kcharselect
[11:35] <ubotu> kcharselect: character selector for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 340 kB
[11:35] <Jucato> Frederick: ^^^^^^^^^^
[11:35] <edgy> !webmin
[11:35] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[11:36] <edgy> ubotu: avoid it?! there is a .deb file on their site why you not just grab it and use it or report a bug if you feel there is instead of this silly reply? ;)
[11:37] <Jucato> edgy: you do know you are talking to a bot, right? ;)
[11:37] <edgy> Jucato: yes I know ;)
[11:38] <Jucato> and just because there's a deb file on the webmin site doesn't mean it's supported by Ubuntu and Debian
[11:38] <edgy> Jucato: yes but it's working properly and I believe some one should jump and support it it's a very important and useful package really
[11:39] <vorpal> edgy: what's webmin?
[11:39] <edgy> Jucato: webmin supports ubuntu and debian and I hope ubuntu and debian also supports it.
[11:39] <edgy> vorpal: a tool to administer everything in your pc
[11:40] <edgy> vorpal: it could also work like cpanel to hosting services
[11:40] <noiesmo> edgy, webmin is considered a security threat  so I hear
[11:40] <vorpal> everything on your pc? that's quite a claim
[11:41] <edgy> noiesmo: nonsense
[11:41] <edgy> vorpal: yes it's _almost_ everythinig ;)
[11:41] <maikeru_> !flash
[11:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <edgy> noiesmo: every package could have security issues
[11:43] <noiesmo> edgy, yeah what ever were all aloud our own options but this is off topic anyway
[11:44] <lele> hi guys
[11:44] <noiesmo> hi
[11:44] <chrismo> hi
[11:44] <lele> hey
[11:44] <lele> need help here :P
[11:45] <lele> a lil help
[11:45] <lele> how can i create videotutorial with ubuntu?
[11:46] <lele> ......
[11:47] <chrismo> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/08/how-to-create-a-screencast-in-ubuntu/
[11:47] <lele> :)
[11:47] <B-Minus_> erm
[11:47] <lele> tnx
[11:47] <B-Minus_> major upgrade ?
[11:48] <chrismo> lele, theres also istambul but I use the setup in that guide
[11:49] <chrismo> lele, oops istanbul
[11:49] <lele> ;)
[11:51] <lele> chrismo: i love you bwahuahua
[11:51] <lele> tnx m8
[11:51] <lele> :P
[11:51] <chrismo> lele, anytime
[11:54] <vorpal> lele and chrismo sitting in a tree K I S S I N G
[11:54] <vorpal> sorry
[11:54] <vorpal> i'm very tired
[11:54] <chrismo> lele, here my vid on screencasting http://superuser.com.au/wiki/index.php/Screencasting_Libre_Software_Video%28flash%29
[11:54] <lele> lol
[11:55] <lele> chrismo: i serching only for the prog ;)
[11:55] <lele> sorry for my english :P
[11:55] <lele> i'm italian
[11:55] <lele> ^^
[11:55] <chrismo> lele, i just followed that ubuntu blog guide and modified it a little
[11:55] <lele> :)
[11:59] <lele> chrismo: it work....tnx u are very kind
[12:00] <lele> ;)
[12:00] <chrismo> lele, leave a comment on his blog :)
[12:00] <chrismo> lele, :)
[12:01] <lele> ;)
[12:02] <Voker57> help!! I can't login to system!
[12:02] <Voker57> It throws me back to login screen
[12:02] <lele> start the system with command line
[12:02] <lele> then do adduser name
[12:03] <Voker57> eh
[12:03] <Voker57> I added a user
[12:03] <Voker57> he gets the same problem
[12:06] <noiesmo> Voker57, long shot check if any disk space left on your system if not only root could login and delete some files etc
[12:06] <Voker57> There is 1.2 gbytes free
[12:07] <noiesmo> Voker57, k
[12:07] <Voker57> and i still can login as root in recovery mode
[12:07] <noiesmo> Voker57, when did this problem occur after upgrade ?
[12:07] <Voker57> noiesmo: yeah it showed up when i installed nvidia drivers
[12:07] <Voker57> now i erased them but...
[12:08] <noiesmo> Voker57, ok are you 32bit or 64 bit, dapper or edgy
[12:09] <Voker57> 32bit 6.06 dapper
[12:09] <noiesmo> Voker57, how did you install nvidia drivers
[12:10] <Voker57> noiesmo: from reps
[12:10] <noiesmo> Voker57, ok this is how I would remommend to install nvidia-glx and adjust xorg.conf file
[12:11] <noiesmo> Voker57, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[12:11] <noiesmo> Voker57, video card model please
[12:12] <Voker57> noiesmo: nvidia fx5900xt
[12:13] <noiesmo> Voker57, ok fine this should work no probs
[12:13] <sb9> how do i switch off SELinux ?
[12:13] <sb9> i need a command
[12:13] <jetc> anyone know how to configure tightvncserver?
[12:13] <sb9> i cant remember it
[12:13] <noiesmo> Voker57, open konsole and in one line > sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[12:13] <Voker57> i can do that via adept
[12:14] <noiesmo> Voker57, as long as the  linux-restricted-modules match your kernel
[12:14] <vorpal> sb9: maybe try #SELinux
[12:17] <noiesmo> Voker57, ok you do what ever man, i was just trying to help with your problem, and make sure that things would work
[12:18] <Voker57> noiesmo: yeah i understand
[12:28] <SoulSeeker> how to add some sites to my sources list ?
[12:29] <Voker57> I reinstalled the drivers
[12:29] <Voker57> but i get the same screen
[12:30] <Voker57> BTW, what means "FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing."
[12:30] <Voker57> ?
[12:30] <Voker57> And where to modify this refcount
[12:31] <noiesmo> Voker57, maybe check log files like /var/log/kdm.log
[12:31] <Voker57> and what to serach there?
[12:32] <Voker57> I get this line in Xorg.0.log
[12:32] <Voker57> it is last, so everything crashes after it
[12:33] <noiesmo> Voker57, can you pastebin your xorg.conf file please
[12:33] <Voker57> noiesmo: ok wait
[12:35] <Voker57> noiesmo: http://nbl.yurx.com/xorg.conf
[12:38] <Voker57> noiesmo: any ideas?
[12:39] <noiesmo> Voker57, not sure sorry
[12:39] <Voker57> noiesmo: wtf is refcount?
[12:44] <Voker57> WTF is refcount???
[12:44] <Voker57> Where to fix this warning??
[12:45] <Chousuke> Voker57: I don't think that warning is anything to worry about
[12:46] <Voker57> Anyway
[12:46] <Chousuke> Maybe you have a duplicate entry in your configs somewhere.
[12:46] <Voker57> What is refcount?
[12:46] <Chousuke> reference count
[12:46] <Voker57> This is the last string in conf
[12:46] <Voker57> ok i will search them for a double entry
[12:48] <noiesmo> Voker57, just reading a post on forum and they found if they used gdm instead of kdm as the login manager it worked they just choose kde as session in gdm
[12:48] <noiesmo> Voker57, near bottom of post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=445456
[12:48] <Voker57> noiesmo: hmmm! where to get the gdm?
[12:48] <noiesmo> Voker57, sudo apt-get install gdm
[12:48] <noiesmo> Voker57, then just select to use instead of kdm
[12:50] <Voker57> 6 mbytes.  Grazie!
[12:58] <ailean> if (when feisty is ready) i decide to upgrade using the Kubuntu disc from Ubuntu, will there be any problem?
[12:58] <ailean> i.e. ubuntu edgy -> kubuntu feisty
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ailean: right now probably
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ailean: very little issues should arise though
[12:59] <ailean> gnomefreak, nah, i mean when it's ready
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ailean: at release time?
[12:59] <ailean> aye
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ailean: well most bugs should be worked out by than
[12:59] <ailean> gnomefreak, i installed kubuntu-desktop before and it caused a few niggling problems
[01:00] <ailean> but i think i'm going to go completely kubuntu
[01:00] <francesco> ei come si installano le applicazioni come skype su kubuntu?
[01:00] <ailean> !it
[01:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:00] <gnomefreak> francesco: #ubuntu-it
[01:00] <gnomefreak> or #kubuntu-it
[01:01] <ailean> francesco, si vorrei restare in #kubuntu, parla inglese
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ailean: int he next few weeks i will be testing more and i will see what we can/cant fix but its way early to know for release
[01:01] <ailean> no probs
[01:01] <ailean> ta :)
[01:02] <ailean> heh
[01:02] <ailean> gnomefreak, anything i can help with?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ailean: not yet everything seems smooth :)
[01:03] <ailean> gah i hate l33tsp33k
[01:03] <DJ_Stefan0> Where did you guys hide /etc/resolv.conf ? i want to edit the nameserver variable so i can connect to the internet?
[01:04] <DJ_Stefan0> i go ifconfig <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:04] <Voker57> the crap is the same
[01:04] <DJ_Stefan0> then route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:04] <DJ_Stefan0> but there is no /etc/resolv.conf for me to edit
[01:04] <DJ_Stefan0> :@
[01:04] <Voker57> instAlled gdm, no difference
[01:04] <noiesmo> Voker57, dam
[01:05] <Voker57> noiesmo: ?
[01:05] <noiesmo> Voker57, no good bugger
[01:06] <Voker57> eh
[01:07] <intelikey> hmmm i'd like to configure xsane but all i can get out of the app itself is an error message "no device found"
[01:07] <noiesmo> Voker57, I mean thats not good hope it would work
[01:07] <intelikey> anyone got clues on sane ?
[01:09] <DJ_Stefan0> any1 here NOT USING DHCP?
[01:09] <DJ_Stefan0> lol
[01:09] <intelikey> there doesn't seem to be any scanner mentioned in system > peripherals       ???
[01:10] <intelikey> DJ_Stefan0 i'm not.
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> well then tell me how to get my networking up and running
[01:10] <intelikey> but that wont help you.
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> i did the ifconfig part
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> i did the route part..
[01:10] <intelikey> DJ_Stefan0 i have no clue.
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> i just need it to know the DNS
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> :@
[01:10] <DJ_Stefan0> coz Kubuntu has hidden resolv.conf
[01:11] <intelikey> DJ_Stefan0 it's still right where it always was.  /etc/resolv.conf
[01:11] <DJ_Stefan0> grr well my Kubuntu instalation must be corrupt then
[01:11] <DJ_Stefan0> lol
[01:12] <DJ_Stefan0> coz i have no /etc/resolv.conf...
[01:12] <DJ_Stefan0> only a resolv.h!
[01:12] <DJ_Stefan0> lol
[01:12] <intelikey> !hidden | DJ_Stefan0
[01:12] <ubotu> DJ_Stefan0: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[01:12] <Voker57> what a brilliant feature
[01:12] <Voker57> Maybe let's develop a new one, hiding half of a screen?
[01:12] <intelikey> yep another bone headed idea from .....
[01:13] <intelikey> hey and lets hide all files with .name
[01:13] <Voker57> rm *.*
[01:14] <intelikey> Voker57 why not just *   you only intend files with . in the name ?
[01:14] <DJ_Stefan0> ah i made 1
[01:14] <DJ_Stefan0> thanx
[01:14] <DJ_Stefan0> anyway
[01:15] <intelikey> rm *.* wont do much on a linux box....
[01:15] <DJ_Stefan0> lol
[01:15] <DJ_Stefan0> yes.. rm * ftw
[01:15] <DJ_Stefan0> :)
[01:15] <intelikey> reset a few configs is all you'll get out of that.
[01:16] <intelikey> now anyone know scanners ?   or sane ?     or how to get them to play togather ?
[01:19] <eilker> how can i make konqueror to open maximized ?
[01:19] <eilker> i mean  on opening
[01:20] <eilker> i tried with  ctrl key, but i couldnt
[01:20] <noiesmo> eilker, open konquerour then make fuillscreen then go settings save view profile
[01:22] <eilker> noiesmo: thank you, it is done, by the way, do we have a way for softwares too ? or must it be done with each software's settings  ?
[01:22] <intelikey> or even better. the upper left corner of konqueror, click the button select advanced > special window settings
[01:22] <noiesmo> eilker, think it will be in the apps
[01:23] <intelikey> again you can do as i just mentioned and make it global
[01:23] <noiesmo> eilker, you can set which apps open which file type
[01:24] <intelikey> use the little icon in the title bar...   that's what it's there for.
[01:26] <eilker> intelikey: yes i found  special window settings
[01:27] <intelikey> you can do lots of fun stuff to one or all windows there.
[01:28] <intelikey> note; if you make all windows open maximiZed   then even dialog windows are maxed....   not the prettiest thing in the world.
[01:29] <eilker> i didnt do it, but i wanna make it open in / , in opening
[01:29] <eilker> now it is opening blank
[01:30] <intelikey> so a usb all in one scanner/printer/fax what device will the scanner be ?   sda ?    /proc/usb/something ????
[01:31] <eilker> sorry ?
[01:31] <eilker> i wanna have konqueror as we write / and enter in adresss bar, i wanna view / in opening
[01:32] <eilker> now it is blank
[01:33] <eilker> now i have 2 profiles, kubuntu file manager and web browser
[01:33] <eilker> what about the others ?_
[01:33] <eilker> do we have more ?
[01:34] <intelikey> you can make more.
[01:34] <intelikey> customize and save profile
[01:35] <eilker>  i wanna have konqueror as we write / and enter in adresss bar, i wanna view / in opening
[01:35] <eilker> how to do it ?
[01:37] <eilker> done, thank you
[01:43] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[01:49] <ThePub> sane is straight forward, just install the backend you need for your piece of hardware
[01:52] <uschelle> hi
[02:01] <vorpal> cya'll
[02:06] <teja> hai all
[02:12] <intelikey> anyone savy' enough to help me get a scanner set up ?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> hmm, have you tried kooka ?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> setup my scanner very easily
[02:14] <BluesKaj> it's in graphics in the kicker
[02:14] <intelikey> BluesKaj i will.
[02:18] <wjasd> how can i install kubuntu 6.10 fron harddisk
[02:19] <marc_> hello
[02:20] <marc_> Can someone help me with a little problem?
[02:20] <BluesKaj> marc_, just ask, and if some has an answer he/she will reply
[02:20] <marc_> ah thx ...
[02:20] <marc_> Ok
[02:21] <wjasd> how can i install kubuntu 6.10 fron harddisk
[02:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj looks like a nice app but no option to setup a scanner that i can find in it....
[02:21] <BluesKaj> !Install
[02:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:21] <marc_> Ive jsut installed kubuntu .. and need to figure out some things. Add first I would like to install Firefox with the graphical Add/Remove Programms  Programm.
[02:22] <marc_> But Firefox (and many other Programms) are "grey" and Im unable to select them?!
[02:22] <intelikey> !ff
[02:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:22] <marc_> Any ideas?
[02:22] <intelikey> marc_  ^
[02:22] <marc_> !ff?
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <marc_> ahh
[02:23] <marc_> :)
[02:23] <marc_> thx ... im going to look that page...
[02:23] <intelikey> marc_ basicly just install it.
[02:24] <BluesKaj> marc_, use synaptic or adept to install firefox ...quite sure it's in the edgy repository
[02:24] <intelikey> or sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:24] <marc_> But ... if it would have been installed, why isnt it in the "Internet" section of the Starmenu?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> intelikey, kooka didn't see your scanner ?
[02:24] <wjasd> can kubuntu 6.10 be used as livecd ?
[02:24] <intelikey> BluesKaj no.
[02:24] <marc_> yes
[02:25] <marc_> yes @ wjasd
[02:25] <wjasd> when i boot it up ,it asked a passwd
[02:25] <wjasd> what is the username
[02:25] <dooby> wjsad - very strange
[02:26] <intelikey> ubuntu is the user name on the *buntu live CD s
[02:26] <wjasd> may be  i used the wrong initrd.gz or vmlinuz
[02:26] <wjasd> where can i download a proper ones
[02:26] <dooby> anyone have problems with shutting down 6.10?
[02:26] <dooby> my pc just stalls
[02:26] <cloakable> Nope
[02:27] <ThePub> intelikey: what's the deal with Sane btw?
[02:27] <wjasd> intelikey, ,what is the passwd
[02:28] <zorglu_> does edgy live cd has support for xgl/aixgl ?
[02:29] <wjasd> where can i download vmlinuz and initrd.gz to start a kubuntu iso file  from hard disk
[02:30] <ylz> EHLO
[02:31] <ylz> does anyone know how I can start the text-mode installer out of edgy installation CD (desktop i386)
[02:31] <ehird> wheeee
[02:31] <ehird> my new livebox modem/router thingy works in linux out of the box with no configuration
[02:31] <ehird> i am happy
[02:34] <ehird> *dances*
[02:34] <marc_> Ok, firefox seems to be installed ... with what command can I start it?! *sry*
[02:34] <dooby> firefox
[02:34] <BluesKaj> ylz, ctrl+alt+F1 ( I think)
[02:35] <marc_> no...its not firefox .. :(
[02:35] <ThePub> is there a place to tell kde to only open new windows on a certain screen?
[02:35] <marc_> somethings....strange :()
[02:35] <BluesKaj> ylz, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the GUI scrn
[02:35] <dooby> strange
[02:35] <ylz> BluesKaj: I get a usual text console... what's the startup name of the text-mode installer?
[02:35] <dooby> here it works fine just typing 'firefox'
[02:35] <marc_> mhrmf ...
[02:35] <dooby> can you find in your menuy list?
[02:36] <marc_> No!
[02:36] <marc_> Thats also disturbing me...
[02:36] <ylz> marc_: try mozilla-firefox
[02:37] <marc_> doesnt work at all ...
[02:37] <dooby> maybe uninstalling en trying again?
[02:38] <dooby> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[02:38] <marc_> mhm ... I hoped to passed that "M$-instalation-procedure" ;)
[02:38] <dooby> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:38] <dooby> i believe that
[02:38] <dooby> but in your console it's not that much work
[02:38] <dooby> ;)
[02:38] <marc_> ^_^
[02:38] <pedroca> ubuntu br
[02:39] <pedroca> como uso?
[02:39] <xwolf-> 'checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!'
[02:39] <xwolf-> how can i configure this?
[02:39] <pedroca> quero acessar
[02:39] <xwolf-> pedroca o canal em portugues? #ubuntu-br
[02:39] <pedroca> vlw
[02:39] <xwolf-> !xlibs
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <xwolf-> !x
[02:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:40] <ylz> !text-mode
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about text-mode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <dooby> @MArc_ maybe you could check whether your firefox is in your PATH variable
[02:40] <BluesKaj> ylz , isn't there a text mode install option on the live cd  bootup page ?
[02:41] <dooby> ie check if your firefox is in the range of your PATH variable
[02:41] <dooby> type echo $PATH and see if your firefox is in one of those dirs
[02:41] <marc_> Ok, I will try it...but back to the other problem ... I cant figure out (mb I didnt know enough about the *ubuntu "right-system"). When I start (from Menu -> Add/Remove Packages) Why are ALL Packages grey (and not slectable) except those who are already installed, and could be removed (ONLY removed)?!
[02:41] <marc_> Path ... mom
[02:42] <marc_> Mhm ... no firefox in PATH .. thx for idea...
[02:43] <ylz> BluesKaj: unfortunately no
[02:43] <BluesKaj> marc_, type 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:44] <marc_> ok
[02:44] <BluesKaj> then,sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:44] <marc_> ..working...
[02:44] <ThePub> is there a reason kmail isn't part o fthe internet submenu on a default kde install?
[02:44] <xwolf-> 'checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!' which package do i have to install to fix this?
[02:46] <llutz> xwolf-: sudo aptitude install xlibs-dev
[02:46] <marc_> oh many informations in german ... ^^ the main part: its not available, but referenced by another packet, the follwoing packets displace it: 'firefox'
[02:48] <marc_> ?_? strange behavior...
[02:48] <francesco> il canale italiano qual'?
[02:48] <BluesKaj> !it
[02:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:50] <dooby> @MArc hmmm
[02:50] <fabio_> hi to all...
[02:50] <dooby> are these messages you are receiving
[02:50] <xwolf-> llutz thank you, it worked :)
 intelikey: what's the deal with Sane btw?     <<< idk.  i installed the prietary driver for the printer and scanner the printer works without a hitch  but the scanner all i can get out of it is   no device found  when i try to open [x] sane
[02:50] <dooby> how does your etc/apt/sources.list look like
[02:50] <marc_> wait wait ...
[02:50] <dooby> ok
[02:50] <dooby> :)
[02:50] <fabio_> someone can help me with a toshiba notebook. i must use toshset for setting brightness
[02:50] <marc_> NOW I am able to select applications to install?!?
[02:51] <fabio_> and other key fn
[02:51] <marc_> Why that? beacuse of the apt update?
[02:52] <marc_> Now I can "click" the firefox symbol in the GUI for apt .. strange... why are there some grey and not selectable ?!
[02:52] <marc_> But its installing firefox ... a good start ;)
[02:52] <dooby> very good
[02:52] <intelikey> !repos | marc_
[02:52] <ubotu> marc_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:53] <dooby> the update comand updates your apt-get database based on the sources.list
[02:53] <BluesKaj> marc_, do you understand about the repositories that the pkg manager like adept use to find and install programs?
[02:54] <xwolf-> lol, now i need kde headers
[02:54] <marc_> "understand" ... mhm ... I understand the "principle" behind ... but not in great detail...
[02:54] <xwolf-> !kde
[02:54] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:54] <dooby> they store software on locations where you can easily retrieve ut
[02:54] <BluesKaj> good, it's a start , marc_
[02:54] <dooby> using apt-get of adept
[02:55] <marc_> Ok, thx all of you .... I think I need to read a bit more. :)?
[02:55] <dooby> is your firefow wroking ?
[02:55] <dooby> forefox
[02:55] <marc_> mhm ... mom
[02:55] <marc_> ^_^
[02:55] <dooby> :)
[02:55] <ehird> going to try QNX or something hardcore, brb livecd
[02:56] <marc_> atm im updating via "adept updating", wouldnt it be a problem to start firefox now?
[02:56] <intelikey> marc_ no
[02:56] <ThePub> hmm, is there a way to put a hiding panel over the macos work-alike menubar across the top?
[02:56] <marc_> Well, but firefox is in the menu now ... wich is a good sign, isnt it? ;)
[02:56] <dooby> it sure is
[02:56] <intelikey> marc_ yes
[02:56] <dooby> hope you get it running
[02:56] <dooby> i got to go
[02:57] <marc_> Oh cool ... its running :)
[02:57] <dooby> enjoy
[02:57] <intelikey> actually that falls under the topic of openion...
[02:57] <marc_> -_-
[02:57] <dooby> :)
[02:57] <dooby> (y)
[02:57] <marc_> Thanks all of you!
[02:57] <dooby> ciao
[02:57] <marc_> by
[02:57] <marc_> +e
[03:01] <baseic> nn som kan hjlpa mig med mp3std?
[03:02] <ThePub> Wouldn't it be cool if you could put a KMail inbox/mail folder on your desktop and open it with a Konq window?
[03:02] <baseic> can anyone help me with mp3 support to kubuntu?
[03:02] <Jucato> !mp3
[03:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:03] <intelikey> ThePub why couldn't you do that ?
[03:03] <ThePub> intelikey: so tell me, how?  I don't see a possible way :)
[03:03] <intelikey> ThePub use maildir in place of mbox
[03:04] <ThePub> intelikey: that wouldn't be routed through kmail.  you'd still have to have kmail open to have the folder managed
[03:04] <pedroca> portugues... como fao?
[03:04] <intelikey> set the folder to ~/Desktop/Mail/
[03:04] <ThePub> intelikey: and it's not a managed mail window, it's just looking at mail
[03:05] <intelikey> yes
[03:05] <pedroca> ei caras... como coloco essa porra em portugues?
[03:05] <intelikey> your point ?
[03:05] <ThePub> intelikey: what you suggest is not what I said.
[03:05] <Jucato> !pt | pedroca
[03:05] <ubotu> pedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:05] <pedroca> obrigado...
[03:06] <intelikey> "if you could put a KMail inbox/mail folder on your desktop and open it with a Konq window?"  <--- looks like what you said...
[03:06] <ThePub> intelikey: inferring you'd get all the management of kmail "magically", not jsut look at raw mail files.
[03:06] <ThePub> intelikey: it's not a kmail folder if it's a konq folder, it's just a view of the raw mail files
[03:07] <intelikey> ThePub i think you missed the point of maildir
[03:07] <ThePub> intelikey: I think you miss the point of having a kmail managed folder?  :)  like I said, it's different
[03:08] <eilker> !nfs
[03:08] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:08] <intelikey> ThePub what ever.   if you know so much tell me how to get this scanner working.
[03:09] <ThePub> intelikey: I would if I could.  What's email and scanning have to do with each other?
[03:09] <ThePub> intelikey: the key point was my emote about CyberDog, and if you have used it you'll understand what I mean :)
[03:09] <intelikey> the use the same OS ?
[03:09] <intelikey> on the same box ?
[03:09] <intelikey> :)
[03:10] <ThePub> intelikey: I asked earlier about Sane because I have some limited experience with it.  I used it about 10 years ago to setup some web cams
[03:11] <intelikey> well i wish i knew something about it atm....
[03:12] <ThePub> intelikey: so my experience with the software is very limited.  frontends at the time were very finicky though and it was important to make sure the sane commandline tools could read the source before diving in with it.
[03:14] <MarcC-linux> is there a way to fix the antialiasing of Kubuntu's fonts? It looks pretty bad here even with AA turned on with subpixel hinting.
[03:16] <omar> I need help, I overwrite the first 512kb of the windows boot, and I can join to windows..........
[03:16] <omar> How can I fix it?
[03:16] <ThePub> MarcC-linux: mine look beautiful :(
[03:16] <intelikey> maybe sane-utils will help ???
[03:17] <MarcC-linux> ThePub: ok, maybe I will try different fonts - I believe the Vista fonts are being used now
[03:17] <ThePub> MarcC-linux: oh, yeah, definitely.  I noticed that with some of my Adobe fonts they look like garbage
[03:18] <omar> Someone can help me?
[03:18] <MarcC-linux> It just weirds me out that they look ok in gnome
[03:18] <MarcC-linux> omar, fdisk /mbr ?
[03:18] <ThePub> MarcC-linux: hmm, that is strange.
[03:18] <MarcC-linux> or just fixmbr
[03:19] <omar> MarcC, I new in linux, I dont know what are you trying tu tell me, I used a program called testdisk to rebuild MRB and it did not fix it.
[03:19] <ThePub> intelikey: I was looking for the sane email I used.. I never keep that sort of stuff archived very long :(
[03:20] <ThePub> anyone know the relation of khtml to webkit these days?
[03:21] <intelikey> ThePub well sane-find-scanner finds it ok but xsane doesn't ...
[03:21] <ThePub> intelikey: have you checked the supported devices list?
[03:21] <MarcC-linux> omar, you rebuilt the mbr and it didn't work?
[03:21] <MarcC-linux> those are windows terminal commands to fix the MBR
[03:21] <ThePub> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
[03:22] <intelikey> ThePub after installing the prietary driver ?
[03:23] <intelikey> isn't that reinventing the wheel ?
[03:23] <omar> yes marc, Can I tell you all the history?
[03:23] <ThePub> intelikey: from the manuf?  suppose if they give you one it should work *shrug* not going to be any help, just double checking the troubleshooting done.
[03:24] <omar> I was trying to pass a file from linux to windows partition and I copy a file from linux to /dev/hda1
[03:24] <ThePub> intelikey: I know from experience that a driver that you'd think would support your hardware, may not support it.
[03:24] <omar> thats overwrite the first 512 of the boot of windows partition
[03:24] <intelikey> ThePub yes from brother.com  it's a .deb
[03:25] <intelikey> and the printer works flawlessly so i will go out on a limb and assume the the scanner driver is ok.
[03:25] <omar> Then I could join to windows, I reinstalled the ubuntu and after that, windows doesn't appear in the grub
[03:25] <ThePub> intelikey: two seperate subsytems :(
[03:25] <wjasd> what is the default passwd for kubuntu
[03:26] <intelikey> yes,  and all in one box.
[03:26] <ThePub> wjasd: whatever you set it to when installed the machine.
[03:26] <intelikey> wjasd there isn't one
[03:26] <intelikey> !root
[03:26] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:26] <ThePub> wjasd: if you mean "root", then sudo is your friend.
[03:27] <ThePub> intelikey: have you checked out the howto?  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/index.html
[03:27] <ThePub> intelikey: specifically, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/troubleshooting.html#INITIAL-HINTS
[03:27] <intelikey> not that one in particular.  looking.
[03:27] <wjasd> i boot it as a livecd ,it let me input the usrname and passwd
[03:29] <pedroca> como acesso ubuntu br?
[03:30] <ThePub> ok, what am I missing.. I right-click my panel and add another panel.. but I cannot seem to pull up a configuration window for it
[03:30] <wjasd> i boot it as a livecd from harddisk,and then can't log in
[03:31] <Jucato> ThePub: you need to restart kicker. press Alt+F2, type in "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[03:31] <omar__> I need help jaja
[03:31] <ThePub> Jucato: ?
[03:31] <Jucato> ThePub: so that the option to choose which panel to configure (drop down list) will appear
[03:32] <ThePub> Jucato: well, I get the panel, I can add stuff to it.. but I can't configure it's size and stuff
[03:32] <ThePub> oh.. hmm
[03:32] <Jucato> ThePub: read above
[03:32] <Omarpb> who can help a new person in linux that made a mistke?
[03:32] <ThePub> yeah yeah, trying that :)
[03:33] <ThePub> Jucato: thank you :)
[03:35] <ThePub> Jucato: you wouldn't happen to know, would there be a way to force a new panel to be "over" the macos-esque bar?  My goal is to have a hiding bar that will pop over the menubar when the mouse visits the upper right corner.
[03:35] <Blue_Dragon> hi guys, i have got a problem starting the kubuntu 6.10 live cd
[03:35] <Omarpb> I copy a file from linux to /dev/hda1 (windows partition) and I overwrited the firsts 512 of the boot partition, I did not how fix it, I can not join to windows, someone can help me?
[03:36] <danny500> Jucato
[03:36] <danny500> check you gmail
[03:40] <marc_> Oh Im still online ... I got another question.
[03:41] <Omarpb> I copy a file from linux to /dev/hda1 (windows partition) and I overwrited the firsts 512 of the boot partition, I did not how fix it, I can not join to windows, someone can help me?
[03:41] <marc_> Who knows how to change the language of the firefox? I downloaded the german-package (for my mom) but after it ... also my browser appears in german ... which I really dont want. And switching back in the normal dialog doesnt change anything!? :(
[03:41] <ThePub> Omarpb: you copied it as root to /dev/hda1 directly?  O.o
[03:42] <Omarpb> yes
[03:42] <hans> Omarpb: boot from the windows CD and choose to repair the MBR
[03:42] <Omarpb> but this is a laptop, the  cd of windows of the laptop does not have that option
[03:42] <Omarpb> that disc erase all
[03:44] <ThePub> marc_: so you installed the localized german version and want another language?
[03:44] <hans> Omarpb: reinstall windows in that case
[03:45] <Omarpb> but if I reinstall, the system disc erase all, I need save some files that are very important
[03:45] <hans> Omarpb: copy those files to your linux partition
[03:45] <marc_> ThePub: No, at first my firefox was english (the menu and all that stuff) then, I downloaded the german-package ... and now ... its ONLY german
[03:46] <Omarpb> I can see all the files from linux
[03:46] <Omarpb> i Can't
[03:46] <Omarpb> sorry
[03:46] <hans> Omarpb: why not?
[03:47] <Omarpb> I dont know, I can see the partition from the terminal, but I can not access to my windows user
[03:47] <ThePub> marc_: and you tried switching the language back to english?
[03:47] <Omarpb> where are the files that I need
[03:47] <marc_> ThePub: yea... several times ^^
[03:47] <ThePub> marc
[03:48] <ThePub> marc_: oops :(  ff info claims that will switch it back.  was just playing with it though because I've never done that :)
[03:48] <Rythan_> nbn
[03:48] <hans> Omarpb: How are you trying to access them?
[03:49] <Omarpb> from /media/hda1
[03:49] <Omarpb> hans
[03:49] <hans> Omarpb: and you can not read the files?
[03:49] <marc_> ThePub: Sorry?  'ff info claims'
[03:50] <marc_> ThePub: oups ... whats that? Never heard before...
[03:50] <metres> omarpb because you are not the root user...
[03:50] <Omarpb> I can not
[03:50] <Rythan_> lol
[03:50] <Omarpb> even if I the root user
[03:50] <BluesKaj> marc_, open FF , choose edit/preferences/general/advanced/languages/select a language too add...check in the list
[03:50] <ThePub> hmm, yay.. now my panels are unresponsive :(
[03:51] <hans> lol @ ThePub
[03:51] <ThePub> hans: ?
[03:51] <hans> hmm, yay.. now my panels are unresponsive :(
[03:51] <Omarpb> even if I am the root user metres
[03:51] <jose> hola
[03:52] <somdech> hi
[03:52] <ThePub> hans: yes.. I fail to see the humor I suppose.
[03:52] <marc_> BluesKaj: I tried that several times :(
[03:52] <somdech> hi guy i,m jsut come in
[03:52] <metres> Omarpb : weird have you tried sudo konqueror ?
[03:53] <hans> ThePub: I like the "yay" followed by a negative, but then again I do have a weird sence of humor
[03:53] <ThePub> marc_:
[03:53] <BluesKaj> must be a default language choice there , marc_
[03:53] <ThePub> marc_: maybe just reinstall?
[03:53] <Omarpb> I cant see the folder documents and settings from konqueror
[03:54] <marc_> I think its something in the config-files? Because my whole system is in german and I think ff just "switched" back to "local properties" ... but where can I adjust that parameter? ;)
[03:54] <metres> Omarpb : weird I saw it here...
[03:54] <BluesKaj> ThePub, marc_ wants to switch back and forth between german & english
[03:55] <ThePub> BluesKaj: yes, of course, but it shouldn't force german as a default on an english locale setup.
[03:55] <marc_> right!
[03:56] <ThePub> I've never tinkered with languages in FF, but I just removed all my languages and installed japanese.. and it's still in english
[03:56] <hans> marc_: http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/switch-locales/
[03:56] <marc_> lol ...;) but ff switched immediatly to the new language pack ... but not back :(
[03:57] <BluesKaj> marc_, whatever languge is at the top of your languages kist is the default one ...just make sure english is at the top
[03:57] <BluesKaj> list
[03:58] <marc_> It doesnt work BluesKaj, I also removed german from that list. And firefox still appears to think .. "ouh Im a german firefox" ;)
[03:58] <marc_> Ah cool ...
[03:58] <intelikey> still no scanner....   raz-a smacken' fratten' smacken' fratten'  </yosemite-sam>
[03:58] <marc_> hans: thx ... Im going to try that switcher
[03:58] <ThePub> Ja Ja
[03:59] <hans> I have never tried it marc_
[03:59] <BluesKaj> methinks hans is right ...locales may be the way to do it
[03:59] <beergutxl> Hi can anyone help me with amarok and mp3's for some reason it cannot play mp3 files riped using sound juicer
[04:00] <BluesKaj> gotta DL the mp3 plugin for amarok
[04:00] <metres> omarpb : I need registering...
[04:00] <beergutxl> It will play downloaded mp3's just not the ones I ripped using sound juicer
[04:00] <Omarpb> for what metres?
[04:01] <Omarpb> to answer me?
[04:01] <Omarpb> ./msg nickserv pass
[04:01] <BluesKaj> maybe sound juicer is putting copyright protection on the tunes
[04:02] <beergutxl> The files play fine on musikcube on my girlfriends machine
[04:02] <marc_> Lol, here guys my solution: Start FF -> Tools -> Add-ons -> 'deactivate' the languagepack you dont want now -> restart FF ... (-_-) works well here
[04:03] <hans> beergutxl: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28amaroK.29
[04:03] <BluesKaj> cool, marc_, good to know :)
[04:04] <marc_> thx all :)
[04:05] <jhonny> hola
[04:05] <jhonny> alguien online
[04:06] <jhonny> quiero saber como manejar el cambio de escritorio
[04:07] <beergutxl> To be honest I probably need a more audio specific room I seam to have created some weird files that play in rhythmbox and claim to be Mp3's even file thinks so mplayer has this to say :
[04:07] <beergutxl> Playing 01 - Psycho Killer.mp3.
[04:07] <beergutxl> libavformat file format detected.
[04:07] <beergutxl> [mp3 @ 0x874c3c8] Could not find codec parameters (Audio: mp2, 56 kb/s)
[04:07] <beergutxl> LAVF_header: av_find_stream_info() failed
[04:07] <intelikey> !paste
[04:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:08] <aleksanteri> ok
[04:08] <aleksanteri> i would need some help on kubuntu
[04:08] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri:
[04:08] <aleksanteri> i am trying to boot from an ubuntu cd but it boots my windows xp instead
[04:09] <aleksanteri> kubuntu*
[04:09] <marc_> aleksanteri: Are your sure that you have switched on the right "boot medium" search in your Bios?!
[04:09] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35928/plain/  sane is insane
[04:09] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: did you change your BIOS settings to boot from
[04:09] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: CD-ROM / RW drive first?
[04:10] <aleksanteri> yeah
[04:11] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: which CD-ROM/RW drive and motherboard do you have (version / brand / model number?)
[04:11] <aleksanteri> lol how would i know?
[04:11] <CVirus> !dosbox
[04:11] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (edgy), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[04:11] <aleksanteri> ok :P
[04:11] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: didn't you note while purchasing? or is it a branded computer from (HP / Compaq, Dell?)
[04:11] <marc_> aleksanteri: Have you tried the CD on another Computer? Maybe its not bootable at all? (Wrong image burn/checksum something else)?!
[04:11] <hans> aleksanteri: You need to burn the CD as an immage
[04:12] <aleksanteri> oh
[04:12] <aleksanteri> i will try :P bbl
[04:12] <marc_> :)
[04:12] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: yes, that's one more option
[04:12] <BluesKaj> not everbody at once
[04:12] <aleksanteri> because i just downloaded the *.iso file, burned it and booted it
[04:12] <aleksanteri> bbl
[04:13] <BluesKaj> hhmm, it should have booted if his cdrom is #1 in the BIOS boot sequence
[04:14] <hans> BluesKaj: not if the CD itself was not burned properly
[04:14] <BluesKaj> ppl forget to save their changes upon exit in BIOS
[04:15] <hans> yeah we do
[04:15] <furiano> ciao
[04:17] <piotrus> witam jest ktos?
[04:17] <aleksanteri> back
[04:17] <BluesKaj> sometimes  ppl do forget , not always
[04:17] <aleksanteri> it can't boot from that cd either
[04:17] <intelikey> why does kcontrol > peripheals   not have scanners in it ?
[04:17] <aleksanteri> and i also read a bit of the log
[04:17] <aleksanteri> it IS the CD
[04:17] <hans> aleksanteri: Can you boot from a windoze CD?
[04:18] <glug-bomros> aleksanteri: was that a CD-R?
[04:18] <aleksanteri> yeah it was
[04:18] <BluesKaj> aleksanteri, are you sure the BIOS is set for cdrom boot first . ?
[04:18] <aleksanteri> sadly :(
[04:18] <aleksanteri> BluesKaj: yeah i'm sure
[04:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:18] <marc_> be happy thats that was the prob :)
[04:18] <BluesKaj> bummer about the bad burn
[04:19] <aleksanteri> :D but now the thing is that is it either my burning device or the cd itself?
[04:19] <aleksanteri> itself. *
[04:19] <wilman> i have a problem with audacity
[04:19] <marc_> Another question: Does anyone of you know, if I install any program, does the debian package work everytime on *kubuntu?
[04:19] <hans> aleksanteri: How did you burn the CD?
[04:19] <aleksanteri> i used the window's builtin burner
[04:19] <aleksanteri> it has worked before
[04:19] <wilman> i have a problem with audacity
[04:20] <wilman> with the sound
[04:20] <mc__> marc_: debian packages are not guaranteed to work on ubuntu
[04:20] <wilman> it says no I/O device
[04:20] <hans> aleksanteri: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/e-smith/docs/howto/CD_burning_howto.html
[04:20] <marc_> ah thx
[04:20] <mc__> marc_: in fact it's quite likely that they break
[04:20] <aleksanteri> thx
[04:20] <marc_> mc__: should I try ... it or download "normal" sources and try to compile them? Whats the best solution?
[04:21] <mc__> marc_: what package do you need?
[04:21] <marc_> I want that game: http://www.reto-schoelly.de/mahjongg3d/index.html
[04:22] <mc__> marc_: alright,firtst try try the debian package
[04:23] <hans> wilman: what version of ubuntu?
[04:23] <marc_> mc__: thx .. Ill try it
[04:23] <wilman> 6.19
[04:23] <BluesKaj> intelikey, strange as it may seem try system settings/user management/admin mode/secondary groups/enable/apply  ..this might pickup your scanner on the next reboot ...just a thought :)
[04:23] <wilman> 6.10
[04:24] <wilman> it did work before on my computer but that was my previous install
[04:24] <intelikey> BluesKaj ???
[04:24] <hans> wilman: did you reinstall or upgrade?
[04:25] <intelikey> BluesKaj i'm trying as root....
[04:25] <wilman> it says : there was an error intializing the audio 1/o layer you will not be able to play or record audio
[04:25] <wilman> reinstall
[04:26] <hans> wilman: could be that there is a problem with switchin from/to oss or alsa
[04:27] <wilman> hmm i don't really know
[04:27] <wilman> is that easy to solve?
[04:27] <hans> wilman: I would have a play with those if I where you
[04:27] <wilman> ok
[04:27] <hans> I don't use amarok, or audacity
[04:27] <hans> I have mplayer ;)
[04:28] <wilman> i want to record
[04:28] <wilman> not play
[04:28] <hans> ok
[04:29] <BluesKaj> is anyone here running Google Earth successfully with an ATI onboard graphics fglrx driver ?
[04:29] <ThePub> BluesKaj: what do you mean by onboard?  I'm using google earth with 8.31 fglrx on my 9700 card
[04:30] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj, try the sabayon livedvd it's got google earth on it
[04:31] <TheGateKeeper> I think it will install the ati drivers by default
[04:33] <hans> wilman: cat /dev/sndstat
[04:33] <wilman> hmm
[04:33] <wilman> ok
[04:34] <wilman> the stat is good
[04:34] <wilman> no synthesiser anable
[04:34] <wilman> i can't copy
[04:35] <hans> wilman: dd bs=8k count=4 </dev/audio >sample.au
[04:36] <trappist> BluesKaj: not at the moment, but I have before
[04:38] <Schuenemann> how can I make the windows key open the K menu?
[04:38] <wilman> 4*0 records out
[04:38] <Schuenemann> using dapper
[04:38] <wilman> 4*0 records in
[04:38] <wilman> 33 kb copied
[04:38] <hans> wilman: cat sample.au >/dev/audio
[04:40] <wilman> device or recource busy
[04:40] <BluesKaj> ThePub, TheGateKeeper, trappist, .. I'm using an ATI onboard express200 and the google earth GUI flickers every second or so as if it's refreshing ,very distracting
[04:41] <hans> wilman: hmm
[04:41] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj, well try the live dvd see if there is any difference
[04:41] <hans> wilman: I give up
[04:42] <wilman> perhaps you can help me with something else
[04:42] <wilman> cause it is a little dificult working with a broken console
[04:43] <hans> I will try
[04:43] <wilman> when i start konsole
[04:43] <hans> I am just a newbie though
[04:43] <wilman> it makes an error
[04:43] <wilman> in kde
[04:44] <hans> what is the error message?
[04:44] <wilman> signal 4
[04:44] <wilman> siggil
[04:44] <wilman> sigill
[04:44] <hans> sigkill?
[04:44] <wilman> no
[04:44] <wilman> sigill
[04:44] <hans> signal?
[04:45] <wilman> the application Konsole crashed and caused the signal 4 (SIGILL)
[04:45] <hans> ok
[04:45] <llutz> wilman: means "illegal instruction" (man signal) but no idea why
[04:45] <ThePub> BluesKaj: how about other opengl apps?  thought I read somewhere that the express support is fairly new, maybe it's a known issue?  google earth on the 9700 is working like a top though, as good as it did in windows.
[04:45] <wilman> hmm
[04:45] <wilman> i can bactrace
[04:46] <makis> ok
[04:47] <Schuenemann> how can I make the windows key open the K menu? using dapper
[04:47] <BluesKaj> ThePub, it's aknown issue in edgy ...google earth worked ok in dapper on this pc ..dunno what they changed but it made things worse fo GE
[04:48] <ThePub> BluesKaj: sucks that ATI treats us linux users like second-class citizens :(
[04:48] <wilman> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[04:48] <wilman> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[04:48] <wilman> [New Thread -1232123584 (LWP 6102)]
[04:49] <wilman> [KCrash handler]
[04:49] <wilman> #6  0xb6754a8b in TEWidget::fontChange () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_konsole.so
[04:49] <wilman> #7  0x00000042 in ?? ()
[04:49] <wilman> something with font
[04:49] <Red_Tear> !suse
[04:49] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[04:49] <BluesKaj> ThePub, it just comes with the terrirory ...now thet ATI is owned by AMD maybe we'll see a bit more support ... one can only hope
[04:50] <wilman> haha Ati is owned :P
[04:50] <ThePub> BluesKaj: lol, it definitely can't be any worse :)
[04:50] <ThePub> BluesKaj: Personally, next machine I build will have an nVidia card since I have an on-off relationship with linux, going back to Windows for MMOs mostly.
[04:50] <BluesKaj> wilman, ATI was bought out by AMD
[04:51] <wilman> i know :P
[04:51] <wilman> is there an alternative for konsole?
[04:52] <ThePub> xterm?
[04:52] <BluesKaj> yeah , I bought this box cuz it was a good deal, 600canuckbucks ,for Compaq Presario SR1734X
[04:52] <ThePub> gnome-console? :)
[04:52] <hans> wilman: [Ctrl] [Alt] [F1]
[04:52] <ThePub> rxvt
[04:52] <wilman> yea but you cant copy from there
[04:52] <hans> wilman: [Ctrl] [Alt] [F7]  to get back
[04:53] <BluesKaj> ThePub, NVidia cards aren't out of the woods yet with Ubuntu set ups either
[04:53] <hans> wilman: have you been playing with fonts?
[04:54] <wilman> uu i have installed some
[04:54] <ThePub> BluesKaj: for normal display they work as good as an ATI card, but the main thing is nVidia seems to have more interest in actually doing some basic linux support.
[04:54] <wilman> becuase i had to have one but i didnt know wicht
[04:54] <wilman> but i never chanched settings
[04:54] <ThePub> BluesKaj: Although, for non-accelerated graphics on ATI the open-source drivers are really good.
[04:54] <hans> wilman: you can change the fonts from the kde settings
[04:54] <wilman> hehe but the easiest solution works
[04:55] <wilman> i reinstalled the programm
[04:55] <hans> haha
[04:55] <Schuenemann> anyone know how can I make the windows key open the K menu? using dapper
[04:55] <BluesKaj> yeah ThePub, I'm not a gamer ... i like eye candy alright tho
[04:56] <hans> Schuenemann: have a look at edditing /etc/console-tools/remap
[04:57] <ThePub> Schuenemann: kconsole -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard shortcuts -> panel -> popup launch menu
[04:57] <ThePub> ?
[04:58] <hildolfur> Hi all! I've got a problem with the twisted package from kubuntu, people at #python think it's a distribution related problem and pointed me here.
[04:58] <Schuenemann> let me see
[04:58] <ThePub> it's mapped to alt-f1 by default I think
[04:59] <hildolfur> hmm, maybe #ubuntu is better to ask
[04:59] <Schuenemann> ouch, it was so bad translated...
[04:59] <intelikey> one would have to make win NOT a modifier key before one could use it as a stand alone shortcut key
[04:59] <Schuenemann> ThePub: can't I set it just to the windows key?
[05:00] <ThePub> well, sounds like a personal problem then
[05:00] <Schuenemann> intelikey: how to make it not a modifier key?
[05:00] <intelikey> Schuenemann idk.
[05:00] <ThePub> get yourself a decent IBM Model-M 101 key keyboard and there's no need to worry about it!  ^^
[05:01] <Schuenemann> I don't use a US keyboard
[05:01] <Schuenemann> it has to be Win + something
[05:01] <intelikey> ThePub i like using the windows keys to switch consoles
[05:01] <intelikey> beets alt+f#
[05:02] <intelikey> Schuenemann there is a way to define what the modifier keys are but don't ask me how.
[05:02] <ThePub> your x keymap is going to have to do with out x sees the keyboard
[05:02] <intelikey> Schuenemann snoop around in kcontrol you might find it
[05:03] <ThePub> hans: suggest /etc/console-tools/remap
[05:03] <ThePub> oops.. hans suggested that ;)
[05:03] <ThePub> hans: will that affect an X session?
[05:03] <intelikey> ThePub yes but without remapping the keys you can set what kde uses for modifier keys.
[05:04] <intelikey> and "<hans> Schuenemann: have a look at edditing /etc/console-tools/remap"  i don't think that will affect X.
[05:05] <ThePub> hey, here we go
[05:05] <ThePub> http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node73.html
[05:06] <ThePub> Schuenemann: http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node72.html then --> http://www.users.bigpond.com/vkelim/SuSE_notes/node73.html
[05:06] <Schuenemann> that file has only a commented line
[05:07] <ThePub> Schuenemann: google "kde windows key"  ^_^
[05:08] <Schuenemann> I did... all I found was people asking that without receiving an answer
[05:08] <hans> try setting the menu in "system settings/Computer administration/keyboard and mouse"
[05:09] <ThePub> Schuenemann: maybe read further?  I just gave you two links from the first page of that search that can be adapted directly :)
[05:09] <weswh-> how do i unmount a partition that i mounted?
[05:09] <llutz> weswh-: umount /mount/point
[05:09] <Schuenemann> ThePub: but japanese?
[05:10] <hans> The "key" you are looking for is "Popup Launch Menu"
[05:10] <weswh-> sudo unmount /media/drive?
[05:10] <ThePub> weswh-: sudo umount /path/to/location
[05:10] <weswh-> cool
[05:10] <ThePub> Schuenemann: no one said it's perfect, but as I said.. it can be adapted.
[05:10] <weswh-> thepub - do you think the power management features are there if i wanted to unmount a drive, and then power it off?
[05:10] <Schuenemann> hans: but it does not accept the win key stand alone
[05:10] <ThePub> weswh-: hell if I know :)
[05:10] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll read it
[05:11] <ThePub> Schuenemann: there's nothing wrong with educating yourself on a subject.  Sometimes that requires more than just looking at something, picking out one word, and deciding that's not for you.
[05:12] <Schuenemann> ok, ok
[05:13] <BluesKaj> !ATI Drivers
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATI Drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <BluesKaj> !ATI
[05:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:14] <hans> Schuenemann: Yeah same here
[05:26] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I am using ubuntu, but installed kubuntu then. I like it, but i wish i could use the original Ubuntu-USplash-Screen .... got some hints for me how to change this back?
[05:28] <BluesKaj> ninnghizidha, use the system settings/spalsh screen options
[05:29] <trappist> ninnghizidha: or, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[05:29] <ninnghizidha> i am not talking about the KDM splash screen ... i am talking about the splash, that hides the bootup-text
[05:29] <ninnghizidha> ah! :))
[05:29] <ninnghizidha> this sounds good!
[05:29] <ninnghizidha> willt ry it ... just a moment!
[05:30] <Schuenemann> ThePub, hans: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552768
[05:30] <Schuenemann> very simple :)
[05:31] <hans> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_alternate_boot_splash_screen
[05:31] <ninnghizidha> ha! thanks! this looks great! :))
[05:31] <trappist> ninnghizidha: :)
[05:37] <hans> Schuenemann: that worked nicely
[05:38] <hans> Schuenemann: thanx
[05:38] <Schuenemann> here too =]
[05:47] <GK_Hakansson> hi i need the lines that allow me too use php in apache
[05:48] <chopin|pc> !last.fm
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about last.fm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <chopin|pc> anyone using last.fm on their machines?
[05:48] <hans> chopin|pc: never heard of it
[05:49] <chopin|pc> ah.  :-|
[05:49] <bthibault> for whatever reason I have to versions of flash installed when I do "about:plugins" in FF
[05:50] <bthibault> anybody know how to select one or the other
[05:51] <hans> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:51] <hans> sudo update-flashplugin
[05:51] <marc__> Has anybody an idea why the login-screen doesnt show me the list of users (in my case 2) although I modified the properties in the users dialog?
[05:51] <digitalfreedom> they may set to hidden
[05:51] <digitalfreedom> or invisble
[05:52] <digitalfreedom> oh ok you edited it
[05:52] <Jucato> marc__: the KDM theme overrides the settings in the Login Manager
[05:52] <digitalfreedom> sorry
[05:52] <marc__> ahh, how can I override, the overrides of KDM? ;)
[05:52] <digitalfreedom> any one know the kubuntu version of tracert from konsole?
[05:52] <zero-code> hi i'm new to this can any one help
[05:53] <digitalfreedom> well zero whats the malfunction
[05:53] <Jucato> marc__: you either: 1) look for a KDM theme that has a user list, or 2) turn off the KDM theme (say bye bye to fancy menus/effects)
[05:53] <bthibault> hans: update-flashplugin ?
[05:53] <bthibault> hans: not sure there is a command for that
[05:53] <digitalfreedom> its apt-get bth
[05:53] <hans> worked for me
[05:53] <zero-code> amarok is not working well
[05:53] <marc__> Jucato: mhm .. no other possibilities? I "need" the effects its an OS for my mum!
[05:54] <digitalfreedom> whats wrong with amarok?
[05:54] <zero-code> and aMule is always going off
[05:54] <Jucato> marc__: only the login effects will be gone (like the fancy icons and stuff)
[05:54] <zero-code> it plays music for sometime and just stop
[05:54] <UncleDrug> digitalfreedom:  sudo apt-get install traceroute
[05:54] <digitalfreedom> thanx UD
[05:55] <zero-code> great
[05:55] <digitalfreedom> bamo its worked
[05:55] <zero-code> thanks
[05:55] <marc__> Jucato: What EXACTLY is the KDM? ..I thought it is the whole KDE system? But this seems not the case?
[05:56] <Jucato> KDM = KDE Display Manager. basically it handles your KDE sessions, specially the login screen
[05:56] <Jucato> it's part of KDE, that is, KDE uses KDM (just as GNOME uses GDM)
[05:56] <digitalfreedom> i should have thought to install it...i had to install finger and whois already
[05:57] <Jucato> marc__: so turning off the KDM theme doesn't affect your desktop in any way. just the login screen
[05:57] <marc__> Ah .. cool
[05:57] <marc__> And how can I switch it?
[05:57] <zero-code> yeh also can you help me setup and make our user group on compus work well(winneba university ghana)
[05:58] <ninnghizidha> It seems that kopete cant send Umlauts .... someone got that problem too?
[05:58] <digitalfreedom> whats Umlauts?
[05:58] <ninnghizidha>  and these things
[05:59] <digitalfreedom> oh special chars
[05:59] <ninnghizidha> i need those in my tongue :P
[05:59] <tazzen> i am new
[05:59] <tazzen> is this a multi chat ?
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> i can do the tongue
[06:00] <marc__> Just ask your question tazzen
[06:00] <tazzen> thanks
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> hahah @ marc
[06:00] <ninnghizidha> its from icq to icq.
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> oh well i dont use icq
[06:00] <marc__> If anybody know the answer ... she/he will answer you
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> havent in years
[06:00] <tazzen> annyboddy know a MSN kopi in here ?
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> we wil ltry our best T
[06:00] <tazzen> what can I use ?
[06:00] <digitalfreedom> ehhh i think maybe aMSN
[06:01] <digitalfreedom> or use kopete
[06:01] <marc__> Does anybody know how to switch my KDM and which other can I use?
[06:01] <tazzen> thank u
[06:01] <tazzen> i will try that
[06:01] <digitalfreedom> np T
[06:01] <llutz> marc__: gdm, xdm
[06:02] <marc__> does gdm ... also work with KDE?
[06:02] <llutz> sure
[06:02] <tazzen> c u later an thanks
[06:02] <ninnghizidha> it does.
[06:02] <marc__> hm ... so simply apt'en and start?
[06:03] <marc__> Or where do I need to adjhust which kdm/gdm I want to use?
[06:03] <ninnghizidha> just apt-get it, it will ask you what to use afterwards
[06:04] <marc__> ah thx
[06:04] <marc__> ok ill try it
[06:04] <digitalfreedom> apt-get rules
[06:04] <ninnghizidha> if not, just type  dpkg-reconfigure gdm.
[06:04] <ninnghizidha> it does, yes.
[06:04] <digitalfreedom> when i had mandriva i bout went crazy hunting for stuff
[06:04] <digitalfreedom> no i just apt-get everything
[06:04] <Jucato> marc__: it's possible. but I think there are some disadvantages in using GDM with KDE
[06:05] <digitalfreedom> or open synaptic
[06:05] <marc__> jucato: why?
[06:05] <marc__> whoups??
[06:05] <marc__> whats that?
[06:05] <Jucato> marc__: because GDM isn't built to work (flawlessly) with KDE. I think that using GDM doesn't allow you to end or switch sessions. iirc
[06:05] <digitalfreedom> whats what?
[06:05] <Jucato> his ghost
[06:06] <marc__> Oh I had a ghost ...
[06:06] <marc__> Ok, back to topic, I do understand you right, that no one, who uses KDM has a List of useres with avatars? :(
[06:07] <Jucato> marc__: um.. no. you got it wrong....
[06:07] <Jucato> marc__: KDM, by default, has a login screen/box with a list of users with their avatars (if they have one)
[06:08] <digitalfreedom> swbell ?!?!?!
[06:08] <Jucato> marc__: however, KDM *themes* sort of hide that login box, and displays their own box
[06:09] <digitalfreedom> anyway did anyone get the ruby update other than me?
[06:09] <trappist> I did
[06:09] <digitalfreedom> did you do it? im skeptical of it
[06:09] <Jucato> yes I did
[06:10] <digitalfreedom> no problems?
[06:10] <trappist> digitalfreedom: it's a security update for the CGI module
[06:10] <trappist> digitalfreedom: no problems here (and I use ruby all day)
[06:10] <digitalfreedom> see i dont know this stuff so i mean im skeered to do it
[06:10] <marc__> sry, was afk...tel
[06:10] <digitalfreedom> what is this ruby?
[06:11] <trappist> digitalfreedom: programming language
[06:11] <marc__> ahh..that means only that I have to switch the theme ... nothing else? :)
[06:11] <digitalfreedom> ok well then im lost as far as programming
[06:11] <digitalfreedom> i stink at it
[06:11] <Schuenemann> trappist: you're using rails
[06:12] <Schuenemann> that was a question
[06:12] <trappist> Schuenemann: sometimes, yeah
[06:12] <digitalfreedom> is there a way to edit konsole commands? i mean say to make ls -a mean rm -r?
[06:12] <trappist> darkangel: 'alias'
[06:13] <Jucato> marc__: like I said, you can either switch to a KDM theme that has that list feature, or turn of the KDM theme
[06:13] <marc__> Jucato: Ok, now I got the point ... thx ... I m looking for another also "eye-friendly" scheme ;)
[06:13] <Jucato> marc__: kde-look.org and good-luck
[06:14] <mc__> marc__: did the 3d mahjong work?
[06:15] <marc__> mc_: no ... the debian package wasnt found (404) and the sources got some error while extracting them...
[06:16] <marc__> mc__: I didnt tried to figured it out again .. because I havnt that much time, so i just emerged Kcolorlines an Kmahjnong ;)
[06:16] <hans> emerge on kubuntu?
[06:17] <marc__> lol .. sry :)
[06:17] <marc__> Where I study Im using gentoo ... and here at home I first installed (today) ubuntu ..
[06:18] <hans> ok
[06:18] <hans> I tried gentoo last week, gave up after three days unsuccesful updating
[06:19] <marc__> ouhh ... ?
[06:19] <hans> tried installing from the live CD :(
[06:19] <hans> I am too much of a newbie I guess
[06:20] <marc__> Mysterious? Well I changed my theme ... and now I try to get a user-list at the login  .. c u soon ;)
[06:20] <Jucato> err...
[06:21] <benner_> Hi everybody, i am still trying to fix my video problem. after installing flgrx for my asus radeon x1600, i rebooted and i get this jumbo font problem..video accelleration and resolution seems to good but cant do nothing at this size :)  screenshots: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:81/1.jpg  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:81/2.jpg  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:81/3.jpg
[06:22] <Dr_willis> 'jumbo font' as in - its using a very low resolution?
[06:22] <silvania> whats up with everytime i update kubuntu something breaks on my system? now OpenGL is randomly lagging or so
[06:22] <benner_> no it is in 1024x768@75hz
[06:23] <marc_> re ...
[06:23] <marc_> :(
[06:24] <silvania> could it be a problem after i updated X server?
[06:24] <marc_> What exactly is a/the scheme .. *shameonme*
[06:25] <marc_> And where can i switch it? Thought it was the window decoration and so on?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> benner_,  that is a large font. :) even my wife could see those letters
[06:25] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[06:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:25] <Dr_willis> benner_,  may want to reconfigure your X. Never seen your exact problem befor.,
[06:25] <Dr_willis> benner_,  since its affecting KDM as well.. thats really odd.
[06:26] <hans> xwindows does not need root does it?
[06:26] <llutz> hans:  -s :)
[06:27] <benner_> Dr_willis: yes it is!! ;) .. i tried ,to reconfigure xorg already.. still same thing.. what's weird is if i reboot in recovery mode and startx manually, its work fine an flgrx is active and working fine
[06:28] <benner_> ubotu: is that answer is for me?
[06:29] <rexbron> hello, is there a place where I can find out why a package is in multiverse?
[06:30] <GK_Hakansson> is here any body who got the "php lines" to put in the apache config file?
[06:30] <Jucato> rexbron:
[06:30] <Jucato> rexbron: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[06:30] <Dr_willis> benner_,  could just not use kdm, and boot to the console and use startx. :)
[06:30] <Jucato> rexbron: usually it's because the package depends on something in multiverse (non-free license)
[06:30] <Dr_willis> benner_,  or kill off KDM, and try startx - see if the same issue happens
[06:31] <hans> rexbron: good question, I always wondered why there are different repositories as well
[06:32] <aib> how do I list information about installed packages from the command-line ?
[06:32] <Jucato> aib: apt-cache show <package>
[06:32] <benner_> Dr_willis: can you explain how? i am new to kubuntu but not so  goofy :)
[06:32] <mc__> aib: apt-cache show packagename
[06:32] <rexbron> it is more of I need to find a reason that it is in multiverse for a spicific package
[06:32] <aib> thanks
[06:33] <Dr_willis> benner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:33] <syntaxx> can i use ubuntu repositories even im using kubuntu?
[06:33] <hans> syntaxx: yes
[06:33] <Dr_willis> benner_,  then try 'startx'  - if that starts up X normally... well.. that impies that somthing kDM is doing is goofy
[06:34] <syntaxx> hans: ok thanks.. how can i change my splash to kubuntu? i migrated from ubuntu to kubuntu-dsktop
[06:35] <benner_> when i type that, says: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not  found)
[06:35] <GK_Hakansson> is here any body who got the "php lines" to put in the apache config file?
[06:35] <hans> syntaxx: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_alternate_boot_splash_screen
[06:35] <syntaxx> thanks
[06:38] <syntaxx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades <-- to upgrade to edgy?
[06:38] <benner_> Dr_willis: when i type that, says: kdm not running (/var/run/kdm.pid not  found)
[06:38] <Dr_willis> benner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:39] <Dr_willis> benner_,  heh -  or perhaps xdm stop
[06:40] <benner_> Dr_willis: both command not found
[06:40] <Dr_willis> benner_,  what EXACTLY are you typing
[06:40] <benner_> Dr_willis: oups wait i did that in a console from x
[06:41] <Dr_willis> console = the alt-ctrl-f1 Console.. not "Konsole" the terminal program. :)
[06:41] <benner_> yes exact.. let me try
[06:41] <Dr_willis> if you booted to rescue mode then KDM/GDM isent running. :)
[06:41] <King_Brad> the Kernel Source for kubuntu 6.06 is  linux-source(uname -r) correct?
[06:42] <syntaxx> how can i upgrade kubuntu dappet to edgy? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades is this the site to do that?
[06:42] <benner_> exact i am in recovery mode using startx command.. because i cant do nothing in the default boot methot due to the font problem
[06:42] <heinkel_111> why are there so many updates today?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> benner_,  then this testing will prove nothing.. :)
[06:43] <Dr_willis> benner_,  ya could START kdm and see if the problemn happens now
[06:43] <Dr_willis> benner_,  go to the console, and       sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[06:43] <Dr_willis> but since ya got X going allready... that wont help much
[06:43] <King_Brad> ok i have linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 in /usr/src/ , do i need to extract that so i can compile my audio drivers?
[06:44] <hans> syntaxx: just change all occurences in /etc/apt/sources.list from "dapper" to "edgy", do an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <benner_> yes exactly on!!! the x loaded and i have those jumbo font
[06:44] <benner_> seems to be kdm
[06:44] <Dr_willis> benner_,  very freaky.. you can disable KDM from starting at a normal boot time by removing the file         /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm
[06:44] <Dr_willis> then ya can just login and use 'startx'
[06:45] <Dr_willis> No idea what KDM could be doing to mess with that. could be some odd fglrx/kde bugglet
[06:45] <benner_> maybe everybody told me they never seen that
[06:45] <llutz> maybe wrong dpi-settings
[06:45] <hans> only two updates today
[06:45] <hans> 6 or so yesterday
[06:47] <hans> taday it;s only ruby, there was a "denial of service" bug found in ruby
[06:47] <benner_> llutz: i tried something the other day about that.. dont remember this command
[06:47] <King_Brad> whats the command to rename a folder from konsole?
[06:47] <llutz> benner_: you can change /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc to set dpi for kdm
[06:47] <mc__> King_Brad:  mv
[06:47] <benner_> Dr_willis: if i remove that file, can i add the startx command to be autorun ( like as autoexec.bat) :)
[06:48] <King_Brad> ty
[06:48] <King_Brad> Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution <--- how do i do this????
[06:48] <Dr_willis> benner_,  dont bother - just use startx.  :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> mv foo bar
[06:49] <llutz> King_Brad: what driver do you need to compile?
[06:49] <King_Brad> my audio drivers llutz
[06:49] <llutz> King_Brad: usually its ok just to install linux-headers and build-essential
[06:50] <King_Brad> i installed linux-source
[06:50] <King_Brad> for my kernel....
[06:50] <King_Brad> but it doesnt like that... maybe linux-headers are needed?
[06:50] <llutz> King_Brad: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:51] <King_Brad> so apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:51] <King_Brad> will do the trick?
[06:51] <llutz> King_Brad: it should
[06:51] <King_Brad> k
[06:51] <King_Brad> thanks
[06:51] <yannick>  Hi, i search french canal for Kubuntu
[06:51] <llutz> !fr
[06:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:51] <yannick> tks
[06:53] <benner_> llutz: what im i suposed to check in the kdmrc file? this is very long
[06:54] <llutz> benner_: mom, have to check
[06:54] <King_Brad> awsome that worked!!! thanks llutz
[06:54] <llutz> King_Brad:  ur welcoome
[06:57] <llutz> benner_: line example sets dpi to 117 (my notebook): ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 117
[06:59] <ovejanegra> hello everybody
[07:00] <ovejanegra> can anyone help me to configure Screen Properties on a dell 640m ?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[07:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:01] <Dr_willis> ovejanegra,  what properties you refering to anyway?
[07:01] <llutz> Dr_willis: you'll need lots of time, it's f*ing slow :(
[07:02] <benner_> llutz: i dont have nothing with dpi in this file.. and i tried to paste yours in mine and do nothing
[07:02] <ovejanegra> thanks... I'm trying to set the screen resolution to 1280x800, but i can't
[07:03] <ovejanegra> i'm new to kubuntu, so any help will be great...
[07:03] <eric_> it may not have autodetected your monitor so its using generic settings.
[07:04] <eric_> if you go to system settings then monitor and display
[07:04] <eric_> find out what kind of card and monitor your running at set it up there.  also when your done you have to restart the x server.
[07:05] <ovejanegra> i'm using a laptop... already tried to change resolution from system settings, but the option for 1280x800 is not there. Max is 1024x720
[07:06] <eric_> that may be as high as you can go then, it will give you different resolution choices depending on what type of display and driver you have.
[07:06] <hyper_ch> how can I see how many users are logged into a computer?
[07:06] <hyper_ch> or rather who those users are?
[07:06] <llutz> hyper_ch: who
[07:07] <Dr_willis> ovejanegra,  what video card is in that laptop?
[07:07] <hyper_ch> llutz: what does this mean:
[07:07] <hyper_ch> hyper    :0           2006-12-03 16:41
[07:07] <hyper_ch> hyper    pts/0        2006-12-08 17:49 (:0.0)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> llutz,  the users thats who... :)
[07:07] <Dr_willis> hyper_ch,  try 'man who'
[07:07] <vge> someone can explain me why i need to reboot to make my eth0 to work?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> vge,  who told you that.
[07:08] <llutz> Dr_willis: hmpf, usually i'm called the "man-man" bcus forcing world to read those :)
[07:08] <vge> Dr_willis: well, i dont seem to get any other way working
[07:09] <vge> network restart nor ifup/ifdown dont do the trick, is the others?
[07:09] <hyper_ch> Dr_willis: man who doesn't give any info on what the output means
[07:09] <llutz> info who
[07:10] <Dr_willis> vge,  so what yo mean to say is 'who do I have to reboot to get my eth0 working' ?  we cant really tell much - with such little information.
[07:10] <hyper_ch> llutz: info who returns the same as man who.... a list with options...
[07:10] <Dr_willis> oops 'why do i ...'
[07:10] <ovejanegra> it says i810... it's a Intel 945gm integrated
[07:10] <eric_> does that match what the computer actually has.  my monitor and driver had to be setup manually because it didn't autodetect the right settings.
[07:10] <benner_> Dr_willis: i deleted the /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm and kubuntu freeze in the kubuntu blue bootscreen
[07:11] <Dr_willis> benner_,  strartx now freezes?
[07:11] <paulw> hyper_ch: try 'man w'
[07:11] <llutz> ovejanegra: sudo aptitude install 915resolution && sudo 915resolution -l
[07:12] <ovejanegra> ok, i'll try that now
[07:12] <llutz> ovejanegra: does it show you a 1280x800 mode?
[07:12] <benner_> Dr_willis: i deleted the file and rebooted, i got the blue bootscreen with the progress bar, and freeze there.. i can even type startx
[07:12] <llutz> ovejanegra: many intel-graphic bios are buggy
[07:13] <ovejanegra> sudo: 915resolution: command not found
[07:13] <llutz> ovejanegra: read what i typed
[07:13] <lm> hey there. can anybody give me their perspective on, what filesystem i shoould convert my 300 gb usb hdd to, so that i can easily read it from both linux and windows?
[07:13] <lm> *should
[07:13] <ovejanegra> sorry, I'm a newbie...
[07:13] <llutz> l,ext3
[07:13] <trappist> lm: vfat
[07:13] <llutz> lm ext3
[07:13] <lm> llutz: is that on readable from windows?
[07:14] <llutz> lm there is a driver on fs-driver.org
[07:14] <lm> trappist:  what is that? never heard of it
[07:14] <Dr_willis> lm,  with the IFS stuff - windows xp can read/write to ext2/3 partitions
[07:14] <llutz> lm vfat=fat32
[07:14] <Dr_willis> thats what llutz  is refering to.. it works very well for me.
[07:14] <trappist> lm: it's fat32.  linux refers to it as vfat.  it's the filesystem they usually ship with
[07:14] <llutz> for me too
[07:14] <Schuenemann> you write ext2/3 from windows?
[07:14] <Schuenemann> is it safe?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  i imagine its safer then ntfs wriging under linux. :)
[07:15] <Dr_willis> theres some limitations to it.. but for a 'data' drive it works decently well for me.
[07:15] <lm> ok... which of the has the best and safest converting tecknique?
[07:15] <Schuenemann> that doesn't mean it's safe heheh
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Life is not safe
[07:15] <eric_> can anybody suggest a good php or perl file manager?
[07:15] <llutz> lm: converting with existing data on? none
[07:15] <Schuenemann> writing fat from linux is safe
[07:15] <ovejanegra> i can't get "sudo 915resolution -l" to work... thows an error message
[07:15] <lm> llutz: thats a shame
[07:16] <ThePub> writing the skinny isn't though!  :)
[07:16] <lm> llutz: not even fat32?
[07:16] <Schuenemann> if you have a power down while converting... wasted
[07:16] <llutz> lm: now it's ntfs? don't know if converting to fat32 works
[07:17] <lm> hmm so i guess the only good altenative now is ext3, huh?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> lm,  depends on exactly what you want to do.
[07:18] <ovejanegra> ok, i got it now:  Mode 5c : 1280x800, 32 bits/pixel
[07:18] <ThePub> ntfs isn't terrible.. just not considered stable :)
[07:18] <ovejanegra> what do I do now?
[07:18] <llutz> ovejanegra: grep "1280x800" /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:18] <k-osh> ThePub: api-stable or production-stable?
[07:19] <ThePub> Over the last week I did some heavy read/write with the ntfs tools from edgy and never had an issue.  Not that'd I'd stake my life on it or anything though.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> Horse Stable
[07:19] <lm> Dr_willis: my drive is right now ntfs, and as far as i know, the 3g ntfs driver has VERY slo writing speeds.... thats why i thought, that converting it would make it alot easier
[07:19] <ThePub> And you're definitely better off using ntfs in windows than something else.
[07:20] <k-osh> Dr_willis: I can think of another horse-related expression about ntfs...
[07:20] <Dr_willis> lm,  proberly will.
[07:20] <ovejanegra> llutz, do i have to restar x now?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> Of course I rarely boot to windows any more
[07:20] <llutz> ovejanegra: stop, what did grep say?
[07:21] <ovejanegra> llutz,  Modes           "1280x960" "1280x800" "1280x768"
[07:22] <llutz> ovejanegra: hm, then "it should" work, no idea why not
[07:22] <llutz> ovejanegra: try to restart X, just press alt-control-backspace
[07:22] <ovejanegra> ok, i'll try that now
[07:22] <chjunior> ow, kubunto is beautiful
[07:22] <trappist> didn't man used to respect the MANPAGER env var?
[07:23] <freakout4321> hi everybody
[07:23] <styvy> hi
[07:24] <freakout4321> hmm, nice place
[07:24] <hans> hia freakout4321
[07:24] <ovejanegra> llutz, it works perfect now! Thank you very very much...
[07:24] <freakout4321> hey hans
[07:24] <freakout4321> the iggy master huh
[07:24] <hans> not in here
[07:26] <ovejanegra>  llutz, it works perfect now! Thank you very very much...
[07:27] <llutz> ovejanegra: fine
[07:29] <knithx> When i boot the live CD, after the kubuntu logo i gets freezed with a black screen, and nothing happens. I am using ATI. What can i do?
[07:33] <benner_> Dr_willis: after erased /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm when i boot into normal im i supposed to stay in cosole mode? or is it normal i see the blue kubuntu logo bootscreen?
[07:33] <k-osh> anyone good with lvm here? I get a kernel panic when booting my machine now. Seems to load some things and then _whammo_, Full stop.
[07:34] <k-osh> The error msg is "Cannot open root device". and "Please append a correct root= boot option". Anyone seen something like that?
[07:35] <k-osh> This might have happened during a kernel upgrade? Like lilo not being run afterwards perhaps?
[07:36] <ovejanegra> bye, and thanks for the help!
[07:37] <Dr_willis> benner_,  you are proberly refering to the 'splash screen' not the KDM login screen.
[07:37] <Dr_willis> benner_,  i always disable that useless eye candy. try hitting escape or apt-ctrl-F2
[07:37] <benner_> yes it load the splash screen and freeze there before the login screen
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Theres some key seqnence ya can hit that turns off that splash screen. It may  be just going to the console and showing a LOGIN: you cant see
[07:39] <benner_> because i deleted the /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm
[07:39] <Dr_willis> try hitting alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 to see if you can get to a console.
[07:40] <benner_> nope doesnt work
[07:40] <Dr_willis> I would boot to the 'rescue mode' and fix grub where its not hiding stuff. so you can see the error messages..
[07:40] <Dr_willis> edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file  and change
[07:40] <Dr_willis> # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
[07:40] <Dr_willis> #hiddenmenu
[07:41] <benner_> ok let me try
[07:41] <Dr_willis> that way you SEE the grub menu every time.. and then also change.  line.
[07:41] <digitalfreedom> how do install a .package file extension with apt? or can i?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=quiet splash
[07:41] <Dr_willis> to read    # defoptions= nosplash
[07:42] <paulw> k-osh: take a look here, might help:  http://kerneltrap.org/node/970
[07:43] <Dr_willis> then rerun   'sudo update-grub' to make the changes take effect.
[07:44] <benner_> and i restart in normal boot?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> reboot command, :)
[07:45] <Dr_willis> yep
[07:45] <Dr_willis> that 'should' disable the splash screen, and show you the GRUB menu also.
[07:45] <Dr_willis> THEN we can do some trouble shooting
[07:46] <benner_> same thing.. the splash appears again... but i get me grub menu.. i can choose from normal, recovery and winxp
[07:47] <Dr_willis> you get the grub menu, you select normal, you then get a splashlogo?
[07:47] <ubuntu_> #hellas
[07:47] <benner_> yes
[07:47] <cntb>  #hellas?
[07:48] <benner_> oups wait i think the menu.lst havent save... having dificulty with vim :)
[07:49] <Dr_willis> if you can see the grub menu, (or hit escape to see it) you can hit 'e' to edit the boot lines and append 'nosplash' to the end
[07:49] <jason> Hi all. I have a grub setup for XP and Kubuntu which was working fine until I added a new hard drive. Now I'm getting Grub error 17, but if I boot off the Kubuntu CD and choose 'Boot From First Hard Drive" I can get into Linux fine. Any ideas?
[07:49] <ErikTheRed> does anyone know of a software for connecting to a sony ericsson phone in linux?
[07:50] <Dr_willis> grub 'reorders' the drives depending on where that new one got installed to. it may have the hd#,# entrys incorrect
[07:51] <benner_> ok to wich line? root kernel initrd quiet etc..
[07:51] <hans> Dr_willis: sounds like it to me
[07:51] <Dr_willis> kernel= whatever.................................  nosplash (or change splash to nosplash)
[07:52] <jason> So how would I get it back to the 'old' order?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> jason,  other then removing the hd... you should reconfigure grub..
[07:52] <Dr_willis> GRUB is one of those tools thats worth learning and learning well.
[07:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:52] <benner_> ok no splash works.. im in the benner login:
[07:53] <Dr_willis> benner_,  so it wasent 'hanging' it was just not removing the splash logi.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> logo. :)
[07:53] <Dr_willis> and its time for me to go to work...
[07:53] <jason> Well, since my Kubuntu install was rather new I just reinstalled Kubuntu thinking it might re-write grub and it didn't. So just try editng grub.conf?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> at least now ya can boot to the login: and use 'startx'
[07:54] <Dr_willis> jason,  'try' ? heh heh .. 'edit it correctly'
[07:54] <Dr_willis> jason,  also your device.map may be incorrect now.
[07:54] <benner_> ok thanks you very much! it work now... just have to login.. ill use it like that ;)  THANKS
[07:54] <Dr_willis> benner_,  thats how i set mine up anyway :)
[07:54] <Dr_willis> bb in 8 hrs........
[08:02] <aleksanteri> O_o i took a look into the kubuntu cd
[08:02] <aleksanteri> found out that it was empty! :O
[08:02] <ThePub> konq sure does a pretty nice job rendering, it gets a little close with some of the css div stuff, but it has nicer lines than firefox.
[08:02] <ThePub> konq as a web browser :)
[08:03] <jason> Hmm. How do I get a list of hard drives?
[08:03] <jason> fdisk -l
[08:03] <jason> doesn't work.
[08:04] <mducharme> of mounted HD?
[08:04] <jason> Yes.
[08:05] <jason> Well, I'm trying t see if the device.map is right or not.
[08:05] <llutz> sudo fdisk -l or df -h (only mounted partitions)
[08:05] <mducharme> df -h or "mount"
[08:06] <memikep> how do i upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 using terminal?
[08:06] <ThePub> jason: it could just be as simple as moving your new disk "behind" your old one
[08:07] <jason> The thing is, though, I don't even get the grub menu before I get error 17.
[08:07] <ThePub> jason: that's because the order and priority has probably changed.
[08:09] <jason> So changing them in the device.map should fix it?
[08:09] <ThePub> I was thinking even easier.. just change where they're plugged in :p
[08:09] <aleksanteri> gotta boot Kubuntu now...
[08:09] <aleksanteri> bbl
[08:09] <ThePub> jason: meh, don't listen to me.  I'm all for the 'easy' solution :)
[08:10] <jason> Heh. Well, that involves the screwdriver. :)
[08:10] <jason> But if I do get the order correct in device.mp that'll fix my error 17?
[08:12] <platypus> i am using kubuntu on my machine and i notice that xorg cpu usage is abnormally high
[08:12] <platypus> always around 100%
[08:12] <platypus> please help
[08:12] <platypus> my cpu is a duo core athlon XP
[08:12] <xwolf-> !convert
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <jason> Ok. Well, thanks. I'm off to reboot.
[08:13] <hans> platypus: that is extremely high
[08:14] <platypus> hans: yeah has anyone experienced the same thing ?
[08:14] <platypus>  4159 root      16   0  337m  58m 5172 R   69  6.2  35:02.55 Xorg
[08:14] <xwolf-> i need to download this 'convert' program
[08:14] <xwolf-> where can i find it?
[08:15] <dumat2> Alguien sabe para cuando vuelve la web kubuntu-es
[08:15] <hans> platypus: never
[08:16] <platypus> :(
[08:16] <hans>  3997 root      15   0  108m  35m 5112 S  2.0  3.7   9:42.67 Xorg
[08:16] <platypus> wonder what's wrong
[08:17] <platypus> hans: yours is a dual core ?
[08:17] <metres> Hi all need a little help, I'd like to install Frozen bubble 2 on AMD64 it required some features like "Perl, SDL, SDL_image, DSL_mixer, SDLPerl and SDL_Pango" do someone know if these package are set by default ?
[08:17] <hans> platypus: nope I am poor
[08:17] <dumat2> en fin, ya me enterar
[08:17] <platypus> hans: what display card are you using ?
[08:17] <hans> AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+
[08:18] <ThePub> platypus: I don't have any issues with it either.
[08:18] <platypus> ThePub: yours is a dual core ?
[08:18] <aleksanteri> doesn't work :(
[08:18] <ThePub> platypus: no :(  just using a P4 2.8Ghz
[08:18] <platypus> hmm
[08:18] <platypus> prolly prob on the 64 side
[08:18] <xwolf-> i need to download this 'convert' program. where can i find it?
[08:19] <Schuenemann> dumat2: kubuntu in spanish? it's available
[08:19] <ThePub> xwolf-: convert what?
[08:19] <platypus> xwolf-: try ImageMagick
[08:19] <majnoon> having some trouble setting up pci video card
[08:19] <SlimG> what is the default samba port?
[08:20] <dumat2> la web ha desaparecido hace una semana aproximadamente
[08:20] <xwolf-> ThePub it just says convert.
[08:20] <ThePub> xwolf-: what's "it"?
[08:21] <Schuenemann> dumat2: la descarga del kubuntu?
[08:21] <platypus> xwolf-: it's part of imageMagick
[08:21] <xwolf-> ThePub "it" is the buildset.sh file for an icon set. i'm gonna try imagemagick like platypus said.
[08:21] <hans> SlimG: grep netb  /etc/service
[08:21] <hans> SlimG: grep netb  /etc/services
[08:21] <ThePub> xwolf-: sounds like there's your answere ^^^^
[08:21] <platypus> xwolf-: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
[08:21] <platypus> read !
[08:22] <majnoon> lspci says it is an ATI RV100
[08:22] <dumat2> Schuenneman: no, un foro muy bueno que ha desaparecido
[08:23] <Schuenemann> ahh...
[08:23] <aleksanteri> kubuntu doesn't boot :(
[08:23] <llutz> majnoon: xorg-driver should be "ati" oder "radeon"
[08:23] <hans> aleksanteri: give it the boot then
[08:23] <ThePub> ati driver does all the varieties
[08:24] <ThePub> it'll automatically load radeon if it's the right one.
[08:24] <aleksanteri> hans: how? :P
[08:24] <hans> aleksanteri: dropcick it ?
[08:25] <hans> aleksanteri: nm, just trying to be funny
[08:25] <aleksanteri> ...
[08:25] <majnoon> it no detect card :(
[08:25] <aleksanteri> i don't see the fun point in that :|
[08:25] <hans> aleksanteri: does it boot from the live CD?
[08:25] <aleksanteri> yeah i burned it myself
[08:25] <hans> aleksanteri: did you boot from that?
[08:25] <Schuenemann> hans: in windows, the win key is a modifier key and it works stand alone too... do you think that's possible in kde too?
[08:25] <aleksanteri> yeah
[08:26] <aleksanteri> i also made it boot from the cd
[08:26] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri: did you try the media check?
[08:26] <aleksanteri> but it doesn't work
[08:26] <hans> Schuenemann: why not try it?
[08:26] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: what do you mean?
[08:26] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri: maybe the cd wasn't recorded well
[08:26] <aleksanteri> i fear one thing
[08:26] <hans> aleksanteri: and kubuntu came up when you booted from CD?
[08:27] <aleksanteri> no
[08:27] <aleksanteri> windows came up
[08:27] <Schuenemann> hans: if "try" means test in control center, it's not possible hehe
[08:27] <hans> aleksanteri: did you burn it as an image?
[08:27] <aleksanteri> yeah
[08:27] <aleksanteri> an iso file, put on the disk and burn
[08:27] <Schuenemann> was the cd executed when you booted?
[08:28] <aleksanteri> dunno
[08:28] <aleksanteri> i didn't see anything
[08:28] <majnoon> llutz i put output of lspci at majnoon.org/lspci.txt
[08:28] <hans> Schuenemann: I have not tried
[08:28] <aleksanteri> i guess it wasn't
[08:28] <Schuenemann> did you choose to boot from cd, on setup?
[08:28] <llutz> majnoon: frames  :(
[08:29] <hans> aleksanteri: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/e-smith/docs/howto/CD_burning_howto.html
[08:29] <aleksanteri> i read that already
[08:29] <hans> aleksanteri: can you boot from a windows install CD?
[08:29] <aleksanteri> dunno
[08:29] <hans> aleksanteri: try that
[08:29] <aleksanteri> i don't remember where i put it :P
[08:29] <majnoon> just a sec llutz
[08:29] <hans> lol
[08:30] <Schuenemann> on setup, you have to choose the cd-rom as the first boot device
[08:30] <majnoon> llutz try http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/lspci.txt
[08:30] <llutz> majnoon: better :)
[08:32] <llutz> majnoon: http://rafb.net/paste/results/YWxZdV87.html
[08:32] <llutz> majnoon: try those entries in you /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a backup b4)
[08:34] <llutz> your
[08:34] <l0g0ff> ciao qualcuno sa come faccio per installare kvirc?
[08:36] <llutz> majnoon: look into your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[08:36] <aleksanteri> can't find it :|
[08:36] <majnoon> ok me TRY
[08:36] <gan|y|med> hi
[08:37] <gan|y|med> finally online again!!!
[08:37] <Schuenemann> l0g0ff: sudo apt-get install kvirc
[08:37] <aleksanteri> but what i can tell you is that i tried a kubuntu cd before, it booted correctly but it turned out to be corrupted. so i think that it's the iso file :|
[08:37] <aleksanteri> that's what i feared
[08:37] <gan|y|med> is sth. wrong with the ubuntu servers????
[08:37] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri: maybe it's the cd
[08:38] <aleksanteri> or the burner
[08:38] <Schuenemann> check the md5 of the ISO, if it's ok, then it's the cd
[08:38] <hans> aleksanteri: next time try to checksum the iso
[08:38] <Schuenemann> first time I downloaded the iso was ok, but the cd wasn't
[08:38] <aleksanteri> how do i check the md5?
[08:39] <hans> on windows there is a program calld md5summer or something
[08:39] <Schuenemann> type md5sum iso_file_name
[08:40] <aleksanteri> ok
[08:40] <majnoon> llutz try http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/xorg.conf
[08:40] <gan|y|med> ok, let me rephrase the question: are the servers down as i am not able to connect to ANY of the above links (didn't try paste)?
[08:41] <majnoon> says undefined device
[08:41] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: it can't find the md5sum program
[08:41] <minombre> buenas noches
[08:41] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri: sorry, I think you were using linux
[08:41] <aleksanteri> :p
[08:42] <Schuenemann> !md5summer
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md5summer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <hans> ubotu: are you a bot?
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <aleksanteri> lol
[08:42] <Schuenemann> hehe
[08:43] <Schuenemann> www.md5summer.org
[08:43] <reefer> hello
[08:43] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: ok
[08:43] <majnoon> !ATI
[08:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:43] <hans> ubotu:
[08:44] <llutz> majnoon: sry, no idea then
[08:44] <majnoon> thanx
[08:44] <hans> ubotu: me
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <llutz> majnoon: the newer ati-driver won't work with rv100
[08:44] <aleksanteri> ok
[08:44] <reefer> im trying to install kubuntu on a compaq presario 1400 but it ends with a black screen and amouse cursor in the middle and the mousepad doesnt work.. is a compaq presario1400 supported or whateve by kubuntu ?
[08:44] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: this will take a while
[08:44] <hans> reefer: did it boot ok from the live CD?
[08:45] <Schuenemann> yeah... big file
[08:45] <aleksanteri> 716 KB
[08:45] <aleksanteri> 716 000 KB *
[08:45] <Schuenemann> I mean the iso
[08:45] <aleksanteri> i know :P
[08:45] <aleksanteri> 716 704 KB to be accurate
[08:46] <reefer> hans you mean safe mode ?
[08:46] <hans> reefer: no boot from the CD
[08:47] <reefer> i see a menu with some options start /install/check cd  but i dont know how to boot live
[08:48] <hans> reefer: can you go on the net from the laptop now?
[08:49] <reefer> no
[08:49] <Hexidigital_> anyone here using bcm43xx-fwcutter and network-manager-kde experiece dropped networks with wifi?
[08:50] <hans> reefer: is kde up and going then?
[08:50] <zismuc> holaaaa
[08:50] <reefer> hans no im stuck at the boot menu
[08:50] <zismuc> spanish??
[08:50] <majnoon> says no device detected :(
[08:51] <hans> reefer: try start
[08:51] <dumat2> zismuc hola
[08:51] <reefer> im trying safe mode now but it takes a while heh
[08:52] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: results ;)
[08:52] <aleksanteri> the ISO is OK
[08:52] <aleksanteri> so it's the CD
[08:52] <Schuenemann> did you chose to boot from cd, on setup?
[08:52] <aleksanteri> yeah i did
[08:53] <aleksanteri> well this is logical; microsoft is so crap
[08:53] <Schuenemann> was it executed?
[08:53] <aleksanteri> don't know, i don't think so
[08:53] <Schuenemann> no noises from the cd spinning, lights?
[08:53] <aleksanteri> yeah those were seen/heard
[08:54] <aleksanteri> but nothing about Linux was shown
[08:54] <RawSewage> how do you connect to a remote server host with konsole again
[08:54] <benner_> i just installed SMB4K to access to my server shares.. and everytime i mount a share it's dissapear 1 sec after without been mount. or i get a su error.. i remember i already had this problem but dont remember what i did before
[08:54] <Schuenemann> it's weird... I don't know
[08:54] <RawSewage> benner_, you have to install samba
[08:54] <aleksanteri> i tell you something; i have been watching a successful linux installation. it hadn't had this problem
[08:54] <aleksanteri> and it was Kubuntu
[08:55] <sb9>  hi, another question, i want to mount a disk 1.44MB in linux which can be read by a windows system - what filesystem do i have to choose ?
[08:55] <Schuenemann> well, I'd try burning another cd
[08:55] <aleksanteri> yeah ok
[08:55] <hans> sb9: fat
[08:55] <aleksanteri> and i also try Nero burning software
[08:55] <aleksanteri> i have nero 5
[08:55] <sb9> -t fat ?
[08:55] <hans> yep
[08:55] <aleksanteri> but i have problems but i think i will be able to overcome them...
[08:55] <sb9> thx
[08:55] <RawSewage> aleksanteri, why dont you use k3b
[08:55] <Schuenemann> he's using windows
[08:56] <aleksanteri> RawSewage: huh?
[08:56] <RawSewage> oh
[08:56] <aleksanteri> :P
[08:56] <sb9> only vfat is possible
[08:56] <hans> use that
[08:56] <RawSewage> how do you connect to a remote server host with konsole again
[08:56] <RawSewage> it's very simple, but I forgot
[08:56] <sb9> i did, it seems to work
[08:56] <Schuenemann> RawSewage: does k3b unlock protected cds/dvds?
[08:56] <RawSewage> Schuenemann, k3b is for KDE, not Windows
[08:56] <sb9> thx a lot
[08:56] <Schuenemann> I know, but does it?
[08:57] <hans> RawSewage: ssh -l user hostname/hostIP
[08:57] <RawSewage> idk
[08:57] <aleksanteri> well
[08:57] <RawSewage> hans, ty
[08:57] <aleksanteri> whatever was the case, i will use Nero
[08:57] <hans> RawSewage: yw
[08:58] <aleksanteri> lmao explorer crashed :P
[08:58] <Schuenemann> explorer sucks a lot
[08:58] <aleksanteri> yeah
[08:58] <hans> well nothing is perfect (yet)
[08:59] <aleksanteri> nothing by microsoft is perfect and will never be :P
[08:59] <Schuenemann> specially IE
[08:59] <aleksanteri> yeah especially IE
[08:59] <aleksanteri> i am personally Opera addicted :P
[08:59] <Schuenemann> I like firefox
[08:59] <VSpike> Opera is great
[08:59] <Schuenemann> because of the extensions
[08:59] <aleksanteri> well :P
[09:00] <aleksanteri> many us at the opera community hates firefox :P
[09:00] <hans> Schuenemann: same here
[09:00] <hans> aleksanteri: and why is that?
[09:00] <aleksanteri> because firefox is their worst opponent
[09:00] <RawSewage> interestingly enough, a few weeks ago I performed the Acid test on Firefox and Konqueror.  Firefox didnt pass.  Konqueror did
[09:00] <llutz> Schuenemann: firefox is nearly unusable without those extensions :)
[09:00] <VSpike> firefox is better now than it was when it first came out
[09:01] <Schuenemann> I disagree... it's unsable
[09:01] <Schuenemann> without the extensions, it's the same as opera :D
[09:01] <hans> aleksanteri: only reason I did not like opera is because it was not free
[09:01] <aleksanteri> it's free now
[09:01] <Schuenemann> I mean it's NOT unusable
[09:01] <llutz> hans firefox isn't free too
[09:01] <hans> yes it is, but now firefox is here
[09:01] <aleksanteri> yeah
[09:01] <aleksanteri> :( opera was too late
[09:02] <Schuenemann> firefox is open-source
[09:02] <apokryphos> firefox is free and open source
[09:02] <aleksanteri> i know
[09:02] <llutz> if firefox would be free, debian wouldn't have to call it iceweasel ;)
[09:02] <apokryphos> opera is only free as in price, not as in liberty
[09:02] <hans> llutz: how do you mean?
[09:02] <hans> haha
[09:02] <llutz> there are unfree parts in, so it isn't free
[09:02] <aleksanteri> hmm should ask them why it's not open-source :|
[09:02] <hans> apokryphos: yeah
[09:02] <Schuenemann> anybody here tried swiftfox? it's an optmized firefox
[09:02] <Schuenemann> for linux
[09:02] <hans> I love the ff plugins
[09:03] <hans> like addblock plus
[09:03] <trappist> sigh.  firefox is free.  but if you change it you're not supposed to call it firefox anymore.
[09:03] <VSpike> the reason opera ppl don't like firefox is sour grapes.. opera was around for ages being better by miles than IE, and when firefox came out, everyone was talking about firefox in the media and among joe user
[09:03] <reefer> hans i tried booting in safe mode .. but the result is the same I see a black screen with a black mousecursor in the middle and nothing seems to be happening
[09:03] <VSpike> at least, that was the reason I didnt like it for a long time :)
[09:03] <trappist> but, this is appropriate for #kubuntu-offtopic.  this is a support channel.
[09:04] <hans> reefer: in that case I doubt kubuntu is for your laptop
[09:04] <Schuenemann> I've read it's about 80% faster on 64bit processors and 40% on 32bit ones
[09:04] <hans> reefer: try mepis instead, it's based on kubuntu, but has more drivers
[09:04] <reefer> hm ok thanks
[09:04] <sparrw> how do i make the damn kde busy cursor go away sooner when im doing things like opening a page in firefox from another app?  i doubleclick the link in irc or email and it launches firefox, which is smart enough to open the link in the old window, but the new invisible window and the busy cursor stay for 30 seconds
[09:05] <aleksanteri> well my story is that i had ie, but it started crashing, i got netscape and firefox which took too long to download and the only choice left was opera. after it i never looked back.
[09:05] <aleksanteri> note i had an old computer with win98 then
[09:05] <VSpike> good point.. i cme with a question.  Why have the icons on my KDE panel suddenly decided to spread themselves out to a ridiculous extent such that 6 application icons and the KDE menu icon take up about half the screen at 1600x1200?
[09:05] <Schuenemann> http://www.getswiftfox.com/
[09:06] <aleksanteri> took too long to load up*
[09:06] <VSpike> And how can I persuade them to snuggle up again?  Trying to drag them together makes it worse.  They repel like similar poles of a magnet and in fact end up spread out even more, crushing the task bar part up
[09:06] <aleksanteri> well
[09:07] <aleksanteri> i will go becuase i need to do something on another comp, related to Nero. bbl
[09:07] <aleksanteri> because*
[09:07] <ThePub> any suggestions of a kde compliant wm that has a rigid window placement policy related to the last window position?
[09:08] <VSpike> Also, is there any way to alpha sort the KDE menu?
[09:08] <trappist> ThePub: kde's window placement policy is highly configurable
[09:10] <ThePub> trappist: really?  beyond the drop down that apparently doesn't configure anything?
[09:11] <hans> ubotu: anything
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <hans> hehe
[09:13] <VSpike> is KDE's screensaver really as broken as xscreensaver website makes it out to be?
[09:14] <VSpike> it certainly wouldn't work for me -- I installed xscreensaver and disabled kscreensaver and now all is well.
[09:15] <easytiger> this bullcrap filesystem thing in *ubuntu 6.10.. how do you turn it off
[09:18] <Lynoure> Is gnupg safe in Dapper or why does the security announcement only mention Edgy?
[09:19] <Lynoure> From what I read  versions before 1.2.1 should be affected, so Dapper too
[09:20] <ThePub> easytiger: what's the issue?
[09:20] <Lynoure> oh, there it is...
[09:20] <easytiger> ThePub: i just hate it lol
[09:21] <VSpike> it's always hard to know when you get no reponse to questions whether you're asking the wrong questions, or asking them in the wrong way, or whether simply no-one knows the answer
[09:22] <easytiger> VSpike: thats irc for you
[09:22] <VSpike> yeah.. should be used to it by now :)
[09:22] <easytiger> i;d say i get a usefull answer to 15% of questions
[09:23] <VSpike> normally if you do ask a stupid question people helpfully respond rtfm or utfs :)
[09:23] <majnoon> trying to install an ATI rv100 video card (no luck) it doesn't detect the card but lspci SAYS it is there
[09:23] <VSpike> #ubuntu and #kubuntu are better than many
[09:24] <ThePub> majnoon: you've run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and went through it making sure you chose the ati driver?
[09:24] <majnoon> yup
[09:25] <majnoon> doesn't even "recognize" the card
[09:25] <majnoon> ThePub: you in X ??
[09:25] <ThePub> so what errors do you get when trying to run startx?
[09:25] <majnoon> it SAYS no devices detected
[09:26] <VSpike> the solution I found on the panel was to remove everything and then put it back :)
[09:26] <VSpike> a bit harsh but it worked
[09:26] <Schuenemann> everytime I run a program through konsole I get lots of errors... what could that be?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[09:26] <VSpike> Schuenemann: what program?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> any program
[09:27] <ThePub> majnoon: could you link a pastebin of your errors?
[09:27] <Schuenemann> kate, firefox, amarok....
[09:27] <Schuenemann> the program seems to work well, though
[09:27] <Schuenemann> Failed to open device
[09:27] <VSpike> Schuenemann: when I got stuff like that it was a whole load of "wacom" stuff in xorg.config that just needed to be commented out
[09:27] <majnoon> can you tell me WHERE to look ??
[09:28] <njende> Howdy Folks
[09:28] <Schuenemann> VSpike: can I copy the error to you private? it's big
[09:28] <twinstars> bonjour
[09:28] <njende> Schuenemann: use pastebin
[09:28] <njende> !paste
[09:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <ThePub> majnoon: can't tell you where to look if don't know where the issue is.  the ati driver "just works" usually.  if lspci shows it as there, then it should "just work"
[09:28] <twinstars> o it's the english channel ^^
[09:28] <majnoon> ThePub: you have a browser that can do frames ??
[09:28] <twinstars> do you can help me ?
[09:29] <njende> twinstars: about what?
[09:29] <twinstars> euh
[09:29] <ThePub> majnoon: well, I'm using konq.. suppose that supports frames, why?
[09:29] <twinstars> i'm under Mandriva 2007
[09:29] <twinstars> and i need help to install a program
[09:29] <VSpike> Schuenemann: like you said the programs ran fine
[09:29] <majnoon> majnoon.org/paste i put lspci info there
[09:29] <njende> twinstars: what about if you would ask your probs in the mandriva channel?This Kubuntu
[09:29] <VSpike> Schuenemann: I'm no expert.. it would mean nothign to me.. i found the answer by googling the exact error i got.
[09:30] <majnoon> and xorg.conf
[09:30] <Schuenemann> VSpike: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35953/
[09:30] <artur> how to change computer name in kubuntu dapper ?
[09:30] <Schuenemann> hmmm ok
[09:30] <easytiger> yea.. its just excess xorg stuff. mostly harmless
[09:31] <Schuenemann> they seem to work fine
[09:31] <majnoon> ThePub: where are the X error logs ??
[09:31] <artur123> ?
[09:32] <llutz>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:32] <majnoon> got it
[09:32] <ThePub> majnoon: what llutz said, making coffee :)
[09:33] <brk> hey
[09:33] <brk> :)
[09:33] <majnoon> ok llutz i have the logs and etc at http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/paste/
[09:34] <VSpike> Schuenemann: I get the "QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter" from Kate every time
[09:34] <VSpike> I googled it and it seems to be common and harmless
[09:34] <ThePub> majnoon: you have installed the fglrx driver?
[09:34] <[lele] > hey i need a lil help....i want to install vidalia....but configure says  Vidalia requires Qt 4.1.0 or greater. You may need to install
[09:34] <ErikTheRed> does anyone know of a software like daemon tools or alcohol 120% for linux?
[09:35] <ThePub> majnoon: what's your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file look like?
[09:35] <Schuenemann> ErikTheRed: burn cd? k3b does it
[09:35] <Schuenemann> VSpike: well, I can live with that =]
[09:35] <majnoon> ThePub: i have the logs and etc at http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/paste/
[09:35] <easytiger> :wq
[09:35] <ErikTheRed> can k3b handle more than just .iso files?
[09:35] <easytiger> opps
[09:35] <majnoon> LOTSA pci info
[09:35] <llutz> majnoon:try : BusId "PCI:1:9:0"
[09:35] <ErikTheRed> i have some backups i made with alcohol but they're in the mdf/mds format
[09:36] <majnoon> ok will TRY
[09:36] <VSpike> trouble with this for non-experts is its like principle in coding about getting rid of all your hints and warnings during builds, so that when an important one shows up you actually notice it rather that it getting lost in the noise of harmless ones
[09:36] <Schuenemann> I don't see this format here
[09:36] <ErikTheRed> yeah i don't see it either
[09:36] <VSpike> ErikTheRed: I'm sure I saw something about how you just mount an ISO file directly in linux as a block device
[09:36] <ErikTheRed> yeah i've done that before
[09:37] <ThePub> majnoon: change the line "	Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0] " 0 0"
[09:37] <ErikTheRed> it's just the other formats that I'm having trouble with
[09:37] <ThePub> majnoon: it should be "Screen "Default Screen"
[09:37] <llutz> VSpike: mount -o loop -t fsystem image.iso /mount/point
[09:37] <Schuenemann> ErikTheRed: do you know a program that unlock blocked cds?
[09:37] <Schuenemann> protected ones
[09:37] <ErikTheRed> huh?
[09:38] <Schuenemann> some cd/dvd are protected and can't be copied
[09:38] <main2> i got a .dat file here, which i need to use - but i have no idea in what format the file is
[09:38] <Schuenemann> in windows there is a program called anydvd that unlocks them
[09:38] <ErikTheRed> oh
[09:38] <main2> i tried 'file' but that says that its 'data', not really helpfull either
[09:38] <ErikTheRed> yeah i'm not sure of a linux equivalent for that
[09:39] <ErikTheRed> similar to what i'm looking for, mainly for games
[09:39] <main2> is there a way, to automaticly find out in what format .dat file is?
[09:39] <ErikTheRed> i like to take images of my games so i don't have to bring all the cds with, but it looks like i'll just have to use no-cd cracks or something
[09:39] <llutz> main2: "file"  ;)
[09:39] <njende> main2: .dat is a dos/redmond file extension
[09:39] <jef_> quit
[09:39] <styvy> Schueneman, i burn them raw, but you need a burner that supports raw (like some plextors)
[09:40] <[lele] > so....any help about Qt ?
[09:40] <njende> Dasnipa`: Howdy... ;-)
[09:40] <main2> njende: its invented in the dos time yes, but that doesnt tell me anything more ..
[09:40] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards one pci and one onboard how do i make one the default!
[09:41] <njende> main2: AFAIR it was also used by dbase
[09:41] <njende> main2: use google
[09:41] <Schuenemann> styvy: where can I find one?
[09:41] <llutz> main2: .dat ist used by lots of apps just for unspecified data-files, so i don't think there'll be a way to get more info about
[09:41] <ThePub> majnoon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35956/
[09:41] <main2> njende: nahh.. ive used dbase 12years ago last time
[09:41] <main2> njende:  im not gonna google for that
[09:42] <main2> llutz: yes indeed, i wonder if there is something more advanced then 'file' :/
[09:42] <llutz> main2: i don't think so
[09:43] <[lele] > i want to install vidalia....but configure says  Vidalia requires Qt 4.1.0 or greater. You may need to install
[09:43] <njende> main2: http://filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=.DAT
[09:43] <majnoon> says no matching device found
[09:44] <njende> main2: http://ask-leo.com/whats_a_dat_file.html
[09:44] <ubuntu> how do i get my Grub back? i installed windows after linux and it messed me up
[09:44] <majnoon> found it
[09:45] <ryanakca> why does apt* keep on crashing with a sigsev? backtrace : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35927/          I've reinstalled apt and libc6 and rebooted as well to try to fix the problem. I've remove /var/lib/apt/lists/*, same problem. run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a, same problem
[09:45] <njende> main2: giving google "file extension dat" it took google 0,4secs to throw out heaps of explanations
[09:45] <majnoon> download it ??
[09:45] <ryanakca> !grub ubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[09:45] <ryanakca> !grub | ubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:45] <ryanakca> oops..., sorry :)
[09:45] <njende> main2: so, basically, if youe to lazy to do make your won researches, why should we do that?
[09:45] <main2> njende:  yes that page says .dat 'Can be just about anything' >> thats why i wonder if there's a program/tool (more advanced then file) which can
[09:45] <main2> njende: ur just bothering me, and not being helpfull at all
[09:46] <majnoon> ThePub: download it ??
[09:46] <njende> main2: http://ask-leo.com/whats_a_dat_file.html
[09:46] <ThePub> majnoon: download?
[09:46] <main2> that page says .dat 'Can be just about anything' >> thats why i wonder if there's a program/tool (more advanced then file) which can help me?
[09:46] <user__> hi
[09:46] <majnoon> the paste page
[09:47] <majnoon> try THAT for xorg.conf ??
[09:47] <ThePub> majnoon: all it looks like is your screen line in the server layout is wrong.  it's calling an fglrx setup, which could have some issues.  just use the open source setup you have.
[09:47] <user__> i just got this kubuntu thing, and would really like to be able to view flash...
[09:47] <user__> can anyone help me?
[09:47] <Hawkwind> !flash | user__
[09:47] <ubotu> user__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:48] <njende> main2: "... if you don't know what application created the file, there's no way to know how to open it."
[09:48] <ThePub> majnoon: so really the only import change would be to go into your xorg.conf and comment out the screen line and add below it:  Screen "Default Screen"
[09:48] <ThePub> s/import/important/
[09:48] <llutz> majnoon: check if fglrc supports RV100, IIRC it won't
[09:48] <Schuenemann> ErikTheRed: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mdf2iso/
[09:49] <ThePub> llutz: it doesn't, which is why I asked him to make that change to xorg :)
[09:49] <llutz> ThePub: ups, sry
[09:49] <ErikTheRed> thanks Schuenemann
[09:49] <majnoon> ThePub: in "Screen" section ??
[09:49] <ThePub> llutz: he has it all set up right, it's just calling the wrong screen
[09:49] <ThePub> majnoon: "Server layout" there's a line name "Screen"
[09:50] <user__> I downloaded the flash plugin for firefox, but can't get it to work.
[09:50] <ThePub> majnoon: it's the first 'section' in your xorg.conf file right now.  says:  Section "Server Layout" ...
[09:51] <majnoon> changed that getting same type error
[09:52] <hans> !test
[09:52] <ubotu> Failed.
[09:52] <hans> haha
[09:52] <ThePub> majnoon: *shrug*  all the things are in place.  maybe remove the pci line from the device "ATI RADEON v1000"
[09:52] <njende> main2: http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/file_extensions/dat.cfm
[09:53] <main2> njende: nahh, thanks for looking a long - but what i do know is:
[09:53] <main2> that its used as text in a program
[09:53] <njende> main2: what?
[09:53] <majnoon> will try
[09:53] <njende> main2: so its a binary file?
[09:53] <styvy> Schuenemann, sorry, been afk for a moment,; k3b supports raw writing, like nero does
[09:54] <user__> i can't find the firefox plugin folder...
[09:54] <main2> njende: in the end, every file is binary
[09:54] <Schuenemann> styvy: that's for removing the protection?
[09:54] <main2> njende: to me, it simply looks like its slightly compressed
[09:54] <njende> main2: wow...thanks for telling me; the question behind it is if you are able to open it i.e. with vim
[09:54] <Schuenemann> user__:  ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:54] <user__> thanks.
[09:54] <majnoon> THAT DID IT me think
[09:55] <majnoon> brb
[09:55] <gan|y|med> hi
[09:55] <Frederick> folks I managed to set up accents and brazilian characters for gtk applications but it doesnt work for open office, any ideas?
[09:55] <heinkel_111> if i change my default shell (in edgy) to bash, will taht make some trouble?
[09:55] <njende> Frederick: ypou
[09:55] <main2> njende: i can open it with vim