[01:08] <coz_> darkmatter, hey guy how goes the theme?
[05:32] <Eleaf> I want to make art
[05:32] <Eleaf> ;p
[05:32] <troy_s> lol
[05:32] <troy_s> I don't believe that much is stopping you.
[05:33] <Eleaf> it's for real troy_s
[05:33] <Eleaf> I need cereal.
[05:33] <Eleaf> but what would I make art for troy_s ?
[05:33] <Eleaf> Professional icons are tough, lots of work for a full suite.
[05:33] <Eleaf> I wouldn't mind individual app icons, but that's not to unified.
[05:34] <Eleaf> what do you reccomend I do troy_s ?
[05:35] <troy_s> Probably not a great guy to ask.  I would probably suggest that you figure out where you _want_ to help.
[05:36] <Eleaf> anywhere.
[05:36] <Eleaf> Is there a wiki page of needed artwork?
[05:39] <Eleaf> ??
[05:41] <troy_s> No
[05:42] <troy_s> You could possibly look through bugs
[05:42] <troy_s> and see if you can change something.  That said, there is nothing to assure that your work will get inserted.
[05:50] <Eleaf> troy_s, bah.
[05:50] <Eleaf> There should be a wiki page of stuff needng artwork
[05:59] <BHSPitMonkey> special folders definitely need artwork
[05:59] <BHSPitMonkey> like Computer, Trash, etc.
[06:00] <BHSPitMonkey> Trash should have a junkyard as its default wallpaper definitely
[06:00] <BHSPitMonkey> And Computer, a blurry jpeg of a motherboard
[06:00] <Eleaf> special folders eh?
[06:01] <Eleaf> BHSPitLappy, what do you mean trash should have a junkyard wallpaper?
[06:01] <BHSPitMonkey> the Trash folder
[06:01] <BHSPitMonkey> it's all about immersion
[06:04] <Eleaf> BHSPitLappy, I'm confused
[06:04] <Eleaf> oh oh.
[06:04] <Eleaf> in nautilus?
[06:04] <BHSPitMonkey> yup
[06:04] <Eleaf> hehe, how do you do that anyways?
[06:04] <BHSPitMonkey> right click
[06:04] <BHSPitMonkey> oh
[06:04] <Eleaf> Ah, how do you make that default though.
[06:05] <BHSPitMonkey> it's on the View menu, my bad.
[06:05] <Eleaf> Like if you where to make it default in ubuntu
[06:05] <BHSPitMonkey> Edit actually
[06:05] <Eleaf> lol
[06:05] <BHSPitMonkey> Uhh, they'd make it so.
[06:05] <BHSPitMonkey> It's very possible.
[06:05] <BHSPitMonkey> Read a book, gosh.
[06:06] <Eleaf> ??
[06:09] <Eleaf> BHSPitLappy, that applies it to all backgrounds.
[06:09] <Eleaf> not just the trash.
[06:09] <Eleaf> lol
[06:09] <BHSPitMonkey> nu uh
[06:09] <BHSPitMonkey> it's on a per-folder basis
[06:10] <BHSPitMonkey> never mind.  But still!
[06:10] <BHSPitMonkey> nothing is impossible!
[06:10] <Eleaf> lol
[06:14] <darkmatter> using emblems n folders dialog you can set a bg for an individual folder or all folders
[06:14] <darkmatter> choice is up to you
[06:15] <darkmatter> so its easy enough to do
[06:15] <Eleaf> how darkmatter
[06:15] <Eleaf> whenever I drag it on there, it sets it for all
[06:16] <Eleaf> I don't see an option for only the current window
[06:16] <darkmatter> right click drag a bg instead of left click drag
[06:16] <Eleaf> oh
[06:16] <darkmatter> it'll give you a menu once you drop it
[06:18] <darkmatter> I dont actually think thats documented though. but it should be. a lot of users dont know its there
[06:20] <darkmatter> BHSPitMonkey, I actually think it should be a trash can bg with like, a rotten banana peel next to it... maybe some tangoish flies circling ;)
[06:21] <BHSPitMonkey> exactly
[06:21] <BHSPitMonkey> immersion
[06:21] <darkmatter> nautilus burn should be some extra crisp toast :P
[06:22] <darkmatter> theres actually a few mockups on flikr from a while back suggesting default per folder bg's
[06:23] <darkmatter> I'm surprised noone actually bothered doing it though
[06:25] <Eleaf> darn slow key thing
[06:25] <Eleaf> that thing is responsible for making my keyboard inactive for no reason
[06:27] <darkmatter> http://images.google.ca/images?svnum=10&hl=en&safe=off&q=nautilus+mockups&btnG=Search <--- the first 5... they use pretty basic images... but its a valid point
[06:30] <darkmatter> http://www.tux-planet.fr/blog/images/gnome_mockup/mockup_05.png <--- I always liked that one. its two glossy, plastic, and mac like theme wise... but the ui concept is a nice one
[06:31] <Eleaf> hmm
[06:31] <Eleaf> doesn't look that mac-like
[06:31] <Eleaf> mac themes are much more elegant
[06:31] <Eleaf> looks like vista ;) ;)
[06:32] <darkmatter> lol... true.. but its the whole plastic/round bauble window glyph thing
[06:32] <darkmatter> haha
[06:32] <darkmatter> kinda bit o' both I'd say
[06:32] <darkmatter> macvista gnome
[06:32] <Eleaf> lol
[06:36] <darkmatter> but the general idea is sound... looks totally different, but sorta follows the general 'library' concept of some mockups I've been working on
[06:36] <darkmatter> thus... I like it
[06:36] <darkmatter> but the theme is... meh
[01:12] <coz_> morning all
[01:12] <coz_> darkmatter, how goes the theme?
[01:13] <darkmatter> coz_ pretty good I guess.. havent worked on it much this week
[01:13] <darkmatter> been starting a couple others I wanna push along with it
[01:13] <coz_> darkmatter, i didn't wake you there did I ?
[01:14] <darkmatter> nope
[01:14] <coz_> cool
[01:14] <darkmatter> was just distracted by the gimp
[01:14] <darkmatter> :P
[01:14] <coz_> darkmatter, oh distracted by it?
[01:14] <darkmatter> yeah... as in gimpin
[01:15] <coz_> darkmatter, yeah there is a fair amount of options in gimp
[01:15] <darkmatter> lol
[01:15] <darkmatter> yup
[01:16] <darkmatter> how have you been coz_?
[01:16] <coz_> darkmatter, prtty good, have been talking to the gnomepeople about not having slab in the next version
[01:17] <coz_> sirry disconnected myself
[01:17] <coz_> dealing iwht gnome people about slab
[01:18] <coz_> hope to have them not putit in gnome
[01:18] <coz_> how the heck did i disconnect myself??
[01:19] <darkmatter> why??? its utterly silly not to inckude choice ;) it can be in gnome... doesnt mean it will be or should be default
[01:19] <darkmatter> but something has to replace those archaic n broken-by-design menus
[01:19] <coz_> darkmatter, well the discussion I had with them was to include an option to turn it on or off
[01:19] <darkmatter> thats better
[01:20] <darkmatter> :P
[01:20] <coz_> darkmatter, list driven menus are speedier , doesn't mean they can';t improve them but slab is, in my opinion and testing a step backwards in design
[01:20] <coz_> darkmatter,  I think slab would be great for teaching kids linux, big icons big menus etc
[01:21] <coz_> regardless fo what novell says , i do not believe they did testing on work output using slaba
[01:21] <coz_> slab
[01:21] <darkmatter> nah... not really a step backwards.. n just as fast if yer used to it..
[01:22] <darkmatter> its still as broken as the menus
[01:22] <darkmatter> but at least its an alternative
[01:22] <coz_> well yeah but i think the best solution is to have an option for slab on/off
[01:22] <darkmatter> indeed
[01:22] <coz_> that way for those that need slab it is there
[01:24] <darkmatter> yup
[01:25] <darkmatter> I use it not because its ideal... I just use it because its clean... the one thing that cascading menus arent... and if I ever do need the actual menu (doubtful) all I need is alt+f1
[01:26] <coz_> darkmatter,  that seems to be the best way to go about this but you know how gnome is
[01:27] <darkmatter> yeah
[01:28] <darkmatter> coz_, I'm actually designing a pretty cool interface "suite" to plugin to gnome as it were... and whats really cool is it has no menus ;)
[01:29] <coz_> darkmatter, ooo sounds interesting
[01:29] <coz_> brb I am doing the restoroom dance here :0
[01:29] <darkmatter> lol
[06:41] <troy_s> greets coz_ -- good to see your idling around
[06:43] <coz_> troy_s, hey guy