[12:39] <CppIsWeird> ok, in my resolv, there are two ips, how do i test if they are the problem>
[12:39] <CppIsWeird> *?
[12:40] <ScorpKing> ping them
[12:41] <CppIsWeird> strange, i get this message when attempting to ping: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[12:41] <ScorpKing> strange...
[12:42] <boyakoosha> hi
[12:42] <NickPresta> !hi | boyakoosha
[12:42] <ubotu> boyakoosha: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:44] <Biovore> CppIsWeird: can you ping your dns server's
[12:45] <CppIsWeird> [18:41]  <CppIsWeird> strange, i get this message when attempting to ping: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[12:46] <Savak> thats a messed up install you got
[12:46] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: what does ifconfig eth0 say? got an IP?
[12:46] <Biovore> CppIsWeird: does ifconfig -a show lo being configured as <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[12:47] <CppIsWeird> ScorpKing, my vm is running on the same adapter and getting internet.
[12:47] <CppIsWeird> its got an IP and doing activity.
[12:47] <Savak> sure it can share the adapter ok?
[12:47] <CppIsWeird> does it all the other times
[12:48] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: what a mixup. i'm thinking...
[12:48] <ryaren> Do you know an Unix-base music maker program?? Like reason or ableton
[12:48] <ScorpKing> hydrogen
[12:48] <CppIsWeird> and even if not, would not shutting down the vm and down up'ing the adapter solve it?
[12:48] <CppIsWeird> tried that, its still dead until i reboot.
[12:48] <ryaren> Scorpking: It was said to me?
[12:48] <ScorpKing> yes
[12:49] <hydrogen> die
[12:49] <ryaren> thank you
[12:49] <ScorpKing> ryaren: np.
[12:50] <dudeicles> could anyone explain to me mount points and their importance?
[12:50] <Biovore> only one filesystem in unix
[12:50] <Biovore> mount points allow you to attach other filesystems too your main filesystem..
[12:51] <Biovore> kinda like having a tree with removable branches
[12:51] <dudeicles> are they folders on kubuntu?
[12:51] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: are you using vmware?
[12:51] <Biovore> mount points are directories..
[12:51] <dudeicles> well i am trying to get a couple of HD's to mount on boot.
[12:51] <dudeicles> directories and folders are teh same to a windows user. LOL
[12:51] <dudeicles> that's what I meant.
[12:52] <CppIsWeird> ScorpKing: yep.
[12:53] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: haha. i think that's it. what are you running in vmware?
[12:53] <CppIsWeird> naturally thats easy to point out as the culprit. But that doesnt solve why this only happens periodically.
[12:53] <dudeicles> Biovore: how would I set full permissions so taht I can do whatever I want to a backup HD?
[12:54] <dudeicles> since this is my personal computer, I just want it to be open to me regardless of logging in as root or as myself.
[12:54] <ScorpKing> it looks like the VPN
[12:54] <ScorpKing> is the problem
[12:56] <ScorpKing> where do i change dns server ip's in dnsmasq? it's giving out the wrong dns.
[12:57] <ronan> hello iam a problem for samba configuration
[12:57] <ronan> can help me?
[12:57] <ScorpKing> sure
[12:57] <ronan> i search the code for the console
[12:57] <ScorpKing> ronan: what's the problem?
[12:58] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: think you can help me out. I want my mounted HD's to be accessible by all users on this computer.
[12:58] <ScorpKing> ronan: i don't understand.
[12:58] <ronan> i don't can control saba in graphic interface
[12:59] <ronan> and i want the command for control
[12:59] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: make sure the mount points have permissions for all users.
[01:00] <ronan> en francais ca serai plus simple
[01:00] <ronan> donc je reeaye
[01:00] <ScorpKing> ronan: run - man sbmcontrol
[01:01] <ScorpKing> ronan: jammer ek begrypt nie mooi nie. english please.
[01:02] <Biovore> !fr
[01:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:02] <ronan> sure just try it
[01:02] <ronan> scuz
[01:09] <ScorpKing> how is it possible to have dns but route -n shows '<IP_ADDRESS>  <IP_ADDRESS>  <IP_ADDRESS>  U 0 0 0 ppp0' ? resolve.conf shows <IP_ADDRESS>/14 but i can't ping either.
[01:10] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: did you get it working?
[01:12] <nparz> A process called haldaemo is taking up 17% of my processor and it's slowing my computer down a bit.  According to some of my friends, this isn't normal.. or is it? My friend that uses ubuntu doesn't have that at the top of his list, either..
[01:13] <intelikey> !hal
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <intelikey> !hald
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <intelikey> bah
[01:13] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm trying to set up my printer with little success, and I was wondering if anyone could help me out
[01:13] <intelikey> dumb bot
[01:13] <nparz> Lol
[01:14] <nparz> It's running a little bit better since I restarted but it's still at the top of my list..
[01:15] <intelikey> nparz hal = hardware abstraction layer    iirc  it facilitates userspace automounting of hot wsapable media devices like cdrom's and usb devices   so it is possable for your system to have hardware that would make hal/d use more nad/or less cpu
[01:16] <nparz> Well, I had mounted an external drive earlier.. but that was it.
[01:16] <emilsedgh> hal is a daemon...shouldnt take much proccess (AFAIK)
[01:16] <nparz> Yeah I know, that's what is annoying
[01:17] <intelikey> emilsedgh true   but how much the gui talks with the daemon will affect how much it uses
[01:17] <nparz> Ehh, regardless though.. I'm not using anything that's mounted and I'm not using my cdrom.
[01:17] <emilsedgh> intelikey: yes, But I think that applications will not talk to it much time...i dunno
[01:18] <kilrae> i am all-of-the-sudden getting black context menus in beryl
[01:18] <intelikey> have someone that has the same system and uses hal check what they have % wise  and compare notes
[01:19] <nparz> My friend who uses Ubuntu said it wasn't near the top of his processes at all.. so I know this can't normal
[01:19] <nparz> Is it possible or just restart it or terminate it?
[01:19] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* stop
[01:19] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* start
[01:20] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* restart
[01:21] <ScorpKing> CpplsWeird: http://frankmash.blogspot.com/2005/12/ping-sendmsg-operation-not-permitted.html
[01:21] <Ch1ppy> Can anyone help me set up my printer?
[01:23] <nparz> Yeaah, I did that command and it shut my computer down
 Is it possible or just restart it or terminate it? <<< thus i listed your options for hal.
[01:24] <nparz> I didn't know that it would restart my computer..
[01:24] <intelikey> it shouldn't
[01:24] <nparz> It did
[01:24] <nparz> -.-
[01:24] <nparz> As a matter of fact, it shut off immediately
[01:24] <nparz> Which I thought was kind of strange..
[01:25] <intelikey> i could imagine it resetting kde  but not linux.  i don't use hal and i am running *bunut
[01:25] <intelikey> nparz yes that would be very strange.
[01:25] <nparz> Great.. so, what do I do?
[01:26] <intelikey> oh.  wait.  did you type it with the asterisk ?   heh it picked up the   halt command....
[01:26] <nparz> I pasted exactly what you typed :P
[01:26] <intelikey> i meant the asterisk to be interpreted
[01:26] <nparz> Oooh..
[01:26] <nparz> So how exactly should it be typed?
[01:26] <intelikey> as  either   hal  or  hald  which ever you have in that dir
[01:26] <nparz> It's hald
[01:27] <intelikey> use the tab key   :)
[01:27] <nparz> Why?
[01:27] <nparz> Wtf?
[01:27] <nparz> o.o
[01:27] <intelikey> !tab
[01:27] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:28] <nparz> I don't even remember the line of code you gave me..
[01:28] <nparz> But uhh.. say I don't what to use hald or whatever, is that a choice I have?
[01:28] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* stop
[01:28] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* start
[01:29] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/hal* restart
[01:29] <nparz> Should I just try restart then?
[01:29] <intelikey> those are your options.   do as yuu like
[01:31] <Shishire> I'm trying to compile Konverter, and it tells me I need X.  Anyone know what package I can get it in or something?
[01:32] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: i'm here now
[01:32] <intelikey> !info xorg-dev
[01:32] <ubotu> xorg-dev: the X.Org X Window System development libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.2-0ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:32] <Shishire> thankyou
[01:32] <emilsedgh> Shishire: xorg-dev or something like that, let me see
[01:32] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: i fugure ur new to linux?
[01:32] <dudeicles> last night was my first time installing
[01:33] <emilsedgh> Shishire: to compile it there are many things to get, x headers, kde headers and..
[01:33] <Shishire> it just said x, and I didn't know which of the many things that start with x it was
[01:33] <dudeicles> i've played with it a bit before, but I think now with Wine I may just decide to stay with Linux
[01:33] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: ok then i'll have to explain a few things first.
[01:33] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: mounting hard drives is controlled in /etc/fstab
[01:33] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Just so you know, i'm not a complete idiot, just a Windows idiot
[01:33] <intelikey> Shishire the development package most likely.  xorg-dev
[01:34] <Shishire> thanks
[01:34] <dudeicles> yeah I looked for that location and couldn't find a /etc/fstab
[01:34] <dudeicles> is it a hidden directory?
[01:34] <intelikey> it's not a dir
[01:34] <intelikey> it's a file
[01:34] <dudeicles> ok
[01:35] <dudeicles> explains why I didn't find taht dir. lol
[01:35] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: on linux there is no drives like on windows
[01:35] <dudeicles> ok
[01:35] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: everything is on directories under /
[01:36] <dudeicles> right
[01:36] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: if you want to add a hd you have to mount it in a directory
[01:36] <dudeicles> like media right?
[01:36] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: for example /media yes
[01:36] <dudeicles> k
[01:37] <intelikey> tty2 [greg$~]  ls -d 'C:\'
[01:37] <intelikey> C:\
[01:37] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: or /media/drived , /media/drivef and so on
[01:37] <dudeicles> ok
[01:37] <dwidmann> intelikey: right, like we'd ever be running short of confusion :P
[01:37] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: hardware is listed under /dev/
[01:38] <intelikey> :)
[01:38] <dudeicles> now I noticed there is a file system mounter in kubuntu, but not ubuntu
[01:38] <intelikey> dwidmann as with ScorpKing's post to a newbee ^
[01:39] <atomicpotato> on KDE how do I enter special characters like umlauts and greek letters/
[01:39] <atomicpotato> ?
[01:39] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: first hd will be /dev/hda second hd will be /dev/hdb and so on.
[01:39] <intelikey> yes the device nodes are in /dev/  but you do not access devices through /dev im most cases
[01:39] <dudeicles> newbee? where? lol
[01:39] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: right. My hds are hda1, hdb1 and hdc1
[01:39] <emilsedgh> dudeicles: ubuntu has filesystem mounter too, thats an applet I think...
[01:40] <dudeicles> emilsedgh: it's here, just not as easy to find.
[01:40] <intelikey> and then the partitions are   /dev/hda1  /dev/hda2  /dev/hda3 ...
[01:40] <ScorpKing> correct...
[01:40] <bronze> Hi all, I just built a kubuntu system from the 6,06 LTS disks. Now, when I try (as root) to do "apt-get install firefox" I get : Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: libnss3 E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[01:40] <intelikey> except on my systems where there are no partitions.
[01:41] <bronze> Clearly I have some problem but I don't know what to look for.  Any suggestions?
[01:41] <emilsedgh> bronze: could you please try sudo apt-get update ?
[01:41] <ScorpKing> i still want to make a webpage for newbies on my website. just to explain the linux basics. will be easy to just send the link to newbies :-D
[01:42] <intelikey> !repos | bronze also consider spending a minute on
[01:42] <ubotu> bronze also consider spending a minute on: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:42] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: It's just easier when someone explains and you can ask your dumb questions.
[01:42] <dudeicles> for me at least. lol
[01:42] <bronze> emilsedgh: I had tried that and I just tried it again, same thing both times "Reading package lists... Done"
[01:42] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: true. lol
[01:42] <emilsedgh> bronze: maybe packages are broken, dunno, try it from adept manager
[01:42] <intelikey> dudeicles true dat.  and the only dumb questions in here are the ones i ask thank you very much.
[01:43] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: any luck with the graphical disk mounter?
[01:43] <intelikey> :)
[01:43] <bronze> emilsedgh: or maybe 6.06 is waaaaaaaay outa date... :-)
[01:43] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: the weird thing that's driving me nuts is that one boot my hd's are mounted I can get to everything on them, then next boot they're gone. I can't modify anything on them or anything. I'm about losing it. lol
[01:43] <bronze> intelikey: Thanks for the tip!
[01:43] <dudeicles> I can't even find them the next boot
[01:43] <intelikey> bronze err ummm also in dapper it may be  mozilla-firefox
[01:44] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: relax. that's what irc is for. lol
[01:44] <bronze> mozilla? whats that?  :-)
[01:44] <emilsedgh> bronze: thats LTS
[01:44] <bronze> emilsedgh:  yes.
[01:44] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: well i think most people are tired of helping me, because i have been in and out of the forums all day and been getting ignored most of the time. lol
[01:44] <intelikey> !info mozilla-firefox dapper
[01:44] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: not that I don't blame them, when I come in with these n00b questions. LOL
[01:45] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>~prepatch070731-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 104 kB
[01:45] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: they do get bored sometimes. haha
[01:45] <bronze> intelikey: was joke.
[01:45] <bronze> :)
[01:45] <intelikey> yes but that wasn't  ^
[01:45] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: is your ntfs drives listed in /etc/fstab ?
[01:45] <dudeicles> dont' think it was.
[01:45] <dudeicles> let me check again
[01:45] <dudeicles> damn peer
[01:46] <intelikey> dudeicles in a konsole   cat /etc/fstab
[01:47] <dudeicles> intelikey: I love it when it's all just mumbo jumbo to me. LOL
[01:47] <underdog5004> dudeicles, using linux == learning
[01:47] <dudeicles> I see my hd's there here's what they say
[01:47] <intelikey> :)   you'll catch on.    it takes time to learn a new os
[01:48] <intelikey> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <ScorpKing> !pastebin | dudeicles
[01:48] <ubotu> dudeicles: please see above
[01:48] <dudeicles> yep
[01:48] <dudeicles> was going there. heh
[01:48] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: paste ur /etc/fstab
[01:48] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36250/
[01:49] <bronze> intelikey: repo prob - no repo's enabled. :-)  apparently thats the way it installs? (and how could I not know that? )
[01:49] <dudeicles> brb
[01:50] <hexstar__> hello???
[01:50] <hexstar__> hi, my video card is a 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) and it's stuck on 640x480 resolution even though I know it can go higher (it did in Mac OS X), the display control panel doesn't let me choose any other resolution besides 640x480 though and when I checked the xorg config there were other higher resolutions listed for the display...so
[01:50] <hexstar__> how can I make the resolution higher? thanks! :)
[01:50] <hexstar__> sorry if there were responses, I lagged out and didn't get them
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> !915resolution | hexstar__
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <hexstar__> nosrednaekim: what?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> hexstar__: anyway... you need the 915resolution package
[01:51] <hexstar__> ubotu doesn't know what you're talking about
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> !resolution
[01:51] <hexstar__> nosrednaekim: oh
[01:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:51] <dudeicles> ib
[01:51] <hexstar__> thanks
[01:51] <hexstar__> installing
[01:52] <hexstar__> how do I configuring 915resolution nosrednaekim?
[01:52] <hexstar__> *configure
[01:52] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: try not to use spaces in mount points
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> hexstar__: not sure, never having done it myself. Google up a tutorial
[01:53] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: ok. how would I remove those mount points and make something else?
[01:53] <hexstar__> nosrednaekim: ok
[01:53] <ks3> hexstar__: when i installed it, there was no config necessary
[01:53] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: i'm working on it. gimme a sec.
[01:53] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: sorry to rush ya, it's been a frustrating day with linux
[01:53] <dudeicles> lol
[01:54] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: np. just trying to sort out the mount options you have there. :)
[01:54] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Kind of a cluster F huh?
[01:55] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: big one! lol
[01:55] <snips> anyone here is using TrueCrypt?
[01:55] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Just tell me how to fix it and i will do.
[01:56] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: will do. still busy...
[01:56] <underdog5004> dudeicles, I can help you
[01:56] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: My wife will be happy then as well, I haven't let her use it since I put on Ubuntu. LOL
[01:57] <dudeicles> underdog5004: thank you, though I believe ScorpKing is working on what I need to do. I appreciate the offer and am sure I will be returning here tons more times for help and maybe helping if I ever get to that point. LOL
[01:57] <underdog5004> ok
[01:58] <TIRK> whoa lotsa users
[01:58] <TIRK> i have a problem with my linuxx
[01:58] <underdog5004> what is it?
[01:58] <TIRK> ok
[01:58] <TIRK> so earlyer
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> !enter | TIRK
[01:59] <ubotu> TIRK: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:59] <TIRK> sorr
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> its ok :)
[01:59] <TIRK> right now i cant bring up the menu at the bottom of my screen
[01:59] <underdog5004> TIRK, right click on the desktop, go to configure,
[02:00] <TIRK> no i have tried that
[02:00] <underdog5004> what have you tried, exactly?
[02:00] <TIRK> i made it so that when i move my mouse to the bottom the menu thing comes up kinda of like on a mac
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> TIRK: try "alt+f2" and run "kicker"
[02:00] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36252/
[02:01] <TIRK> whats kicker do?
[02:01] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: what shall I do?
[02:01] <underdog5004> kivker is the panel
[02:01] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: create two directories /media/hdb1 and /media/hdc1 for the new mount points.
[02:01] <dudeicles> ok
[02:01] <dudeicles> type sudo mkdir /media/hdb1?
[02:02] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: that is what your /etc/fstab file should look like
[02:02] <TIRK> and now when i go to the bottom it doents come up :(
[02:02] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: yes
[02:02] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: how can I edit that file?
[02:02] <TIRK> so i dont know how to get to the bottom thing now...
[02:03] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo kate /etc/fstab
[02:03] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: or sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:03] <underdog5004> 8uy78
[02:03] <underdog5004> sorry, replacing keys on my keyboard
[02:03] <intelikey> ScorpKing kdesu  not sudo
[02:03] <intelikey> !kdesu | dudeicles
[02:03] <ubotu> dudeicles: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:04] <ScorpKing> it can be run from command line like that, but thanks. never used kdesu :)
[02:04] <intelikey> it can be  and you can end up with root owning things in your home dir too
[02:04] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: I can just copy over all exactly how it is in your paste?
[02:04] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: yes
[02:05] <intelikey> dudeicles ummm you don't need write access to those file systems ?
[02:05] <hexstar_> thanks, 915resolution was the solution :D
[02:05] <intelikey> cause that is read only
[02:06] <ScorpKing> getting there
[02:06] <dudeicles> yeah I would like write permission
[02:06] <hexstar_> it is the next best thing to mac os x
[02:06] <dudeicles> ok we'll start with what we have. lol
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> hexstar_: good :)
[02:06] <hexstar_> nosrednaekim: :)
[02:07] <intelikey> hexstar_ i'd assume you either really like mac osX or you really hate kubuntu  ...
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> hexstar_: its not "next best" but i'll forgive you for that.
[02:07] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: There's a lot more in my file than what you pasted.
[02:07] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: change the ro, in the options to rw, to get write access.
[02:07] <hexstar_> lol well I meant for macs there's mac os x and for pcs there's kubuntu, the mac os x of linux IMO which is a good thing
[02:07] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: it will be ok if all the rest of that crap isn't in there?
[02:07] <snips> anyone here uses TrueCrypt???
[02:07] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: yes
[02:08] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: dupilcates...
[02:08] <hexstar_> it means things just work, things are straight forward and easy to do. Unlike other distros there's little hassle involved in getting kubuntu to do what you want it to do
[02:08] <intelikey> below stand
[02:08] <hexstar_> !TrueCrypt | snips
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: to be able to write to ntfs run - sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g
[02:08] <hexstar_> ewww ntfs
[02:08] <ScorpKing> ya
[02:09] <hexstar_> ext3 ftw
[02:09] <snips> hexstar_ : i'd like to known users' impressions about it
[02:09] <dudeicles> ok so now if I reboot my drives should show up?
[02:09] <hexstar_> snips: oh
[02:09] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: dont' have to
[02:09] <intelikey> dudeicles  sudo mount -a
[02:09] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo mount /media/hdb1
[02:09] <dudeicles> maybe mount -a?
[02:10] <dudeicles> which one? LOL
[02:10] <hexstar_> dudecies: mount -o ntfs-3g /dev/addr /mnt/mount_folder
[02:10] <hexstar_> oops where -o is should be -t
[02:10] <intelikey> dudeicles the -a is all that are to be automounted
[02:10] <intelikey> dudeicles same as a reboot
[02:11] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: in linux you dont have to reboot
[02:11] <intelikey> unless you need to load i different kernel
[02:11] <hexstar_> would the drives be in /etc/fstab though?
[02:11] <hexstar_> -a auto mounts all mounts listed in /etc/fstab
[02:11] <intelikey> hexstar_ he just edited fstab
[02:11] <hexstar_> oh
[02:12] <dudeicles> ScorpKing:  tells me "mount: can't find /medai/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[02:12] <hexstar_> you misspelled media
[02:13] <intelikey> that's cause ScorpKing renamed the mountpoints form  /media/040backup  to /media/hd*
[02:13] <hexstar_> he has medai...
[02:13] <dudeicles> lol
[02:13] <dudeicles> only here
[02:13] <hexstar_> it should be media
[02:13] <dudeicles> not in terminal
[02:13] <dudeicles> I just retyped that here.
[02:13] <intelikey> hexstar_ but mount -a   didn't have midai in it.
[02:13] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: did you create the /media/hdb1 directory?
[02:13] <dudeicles> when I did mount -a it said this
[02:13] <hexstar_> then how did that error occur?
[02:14] <hexstar_> intelikey:
[02:14] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: yes
[02:14] <intelikey> hexstar_ typo in the irc client
[02:14] <dudeicles> yeah
[02:14] <dudeicles> I didn't copy and paste
[02:14] <dudeicles> I just typed it
[02:14] <hexstar_> intelikey, dudeicles oh I assumed it was copy and paste
[02:14] <intelikey> hexstar_ he told you that just above my post
[02:14] <hexstar_> kk
[02:14] <dudeicles> hexstar_: no prob
[02:14] <hexstar_> :)
[02:15] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: another cool thing in linux is when you want to paste it just hilight it with the mouse and press the middle mouse button to paste it.
[02:15] <dudeicles> oh cool
[02:15] <ScorpKing> ya
[02:15] <dudeicles> well what next?
[02:15] <dudeicles> lol
[02:15] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: what was the error?
[02:16] <intelikey> hexstar_ if you want to catch up  this was dudeicles' fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36250/  and this is what ScorpKing told him to make it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36252/
[02:16] <dudeicles> here was my mount -a error
[02:16] <hexstar_> intelikey: ah thanks
[02:17] <hexstar_> I love how kubuntu runs without issue on my mac mini too...knoppix which has never given me trouble freezes when looking for the kernel
[02:17] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36253/
[02:17] <atomicpotato> how can I have numlock on by default in KDE?
[02:18] <hexstar_> atomicpotato: http://kim.biyn.com/Linux/how_to_set_numlock_to_be_on_by_default_in_kde2
[02:18] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo umount /dev/hdb1
[02:18] <intelikey> hexstar_ ScorpKing and dudeicles     and this is what i would have sujested http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39371
[02:19] <intelikey> now i'll stop confusing things....    you're welcome !
[02:19] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: did that
[02:19] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: if you run mount, is /dev/hda1 mounted?
[02:19] <hexstar_> what's the \040Drive bit intelikey?
[02:20] <intelikey> hexstar_ it's the mountpoint he was already using
[02:20] <atomicpotato> hexstar_, that link fails it, I don't even have /etc/opt
[02:21] <intelikey> and if you notice he had the one fs mounting within the other as a subdir  i left the mountpoints as he had them.
[02:21] <hexstar_> just never seen a mount point formatted like /media/Backup\040Drive
[02:21] <ScorpKing> intelikey: only if ntfs-3g is installed. but it's a better option for write access on ntfs
[02:21] <dudeicles> seems like it is ScorpKing
[02:21] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36254/
[02:21] <intelikey> ScorpKing well i expected him to install ntfs-3g if he uses those options....   of course.
[02:22] <hexstar_> atomicpotato: sorry about that, try this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Numlock#For_KDE_Users
[02:22] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it's not mounted
[02:22] <intelikey> !info numlock
[02:22] <ubotu> Package numlock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:22] <intelikey> !info numlock hoary
[02:22] <ubotu> Package numlock does not exist in feisty
[02:22] <intelikey> well
[02:22] <dudeicles> then what is that first line ScorpKing?
[02:23] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it looks like your /etc/fstab has a problem with the mount point
[02:23] <intelikey> !info numlockx
[02:23] <ubotu> numlockx: enable NumLock in X11 sessions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-5 (feisty), package size 10 kB, installed size 88 kB
[02:23] <intelikey> derr de derr derr    derr
[02:24] <hexstar_> atomicpotato: that works, it's a bit different of names though, it's K>System Settings>Keyboard & Mouse under NumLock on KDE Startup
[02:24] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it is still on /media/Backup... not /media/hdb1
[02:24] <atomicpotato> ok
[02:24] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Should I be logged in as root right now?
[02:24] <dudeicles> Mabe that's my problem
[02:24] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: no
[02:24] <hexstar_> dudeicles: never log in as root, use sudo
[02:25] <intelikey> "never log in as root"   awfully dogmatic  isn't it...
[02:25] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: paste ur /etc/fstab again. lol
[02:25] <dudeicles> will do
[02:26] <intelikey> how about 'there are extreemly few reasons to login as root, and this is not one of them'   ?
[02:27] <ScorpKing> intelikey: don't waste sudo. lol
[02:27] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36255/
[02:28] <intelikey> loging in is not possable on this system    so i can't possably login as root or any one else...
[02:28] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it's still wrong. lol
[02:29] <MurielGodoi> Hi, anyone know how can I set the cedilla caracter in order to type in portuguese?
[02:29] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: I hit save when I was done.
[02:29] <Psycoshot> What's ttthe command to install
[02:29] <Psycoshot> Package: dvorak7min (1.6.1-4) [universe]
[02:29] <intelikey> !pt
[02:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:29] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: replace it with the one i gave you. that one won't work
[02:30] <dudeicles> how? If save ain't doing it. what else could be going on?
[02:30] <MurielGodoi> ok sorry for that,  thanks
[02:30] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[02:30] <intelikey> MurielGodoi that's the best i can do for you there,   sorry if it doesn't help
[02:31] <ubuntu_> How do I map my sound volume to my speakers?
[02:31] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: brb, i need some koffie. lol
[02:31] <MurielGodoi> intelikey: That is okay, I asked in the wrong channel :)
[02:31] <dudeicles> lets see if this works
[02:32] <Psycoshot> What's ttthe command to install
[02:32] <Psycoshot> Package: dvorak7min (1.6.1-4) [universe]      in terminal??
[02:32] <dudeicles> ok they mounted
[02:32] <dudeicles> but I forgot to put in rw instead of ro
[02:32] <dudeicles> lol
[02:32] <hexstar_> what's a good gui ftp client?
[02:33] <intelikey> Psycoshot apt-get install "blah"
[02:33] <underdog5004> Psycoshot, sudo apt-get install packagename
[02:33] <hexstar_> !ftp
[02:33] <hexstar_> ???
[02:33] <Psycoshot> Thanks
[02:34] <hexstar_> please help
[02:34] <intelikey> !ftp
[02:34] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:34] <intelikey> !ftpd
[02:34] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[02:34] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: did you install ntfs-3g?
[02:35] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: yes
[02:35] <Psycoshot> how do I reinstall package?
[02:35] <intelikey> add   --reinstall
[02:35] <Psycoshot> TY
[02:35] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: change ntfs to ntfs-3g and ro to rw
[02:35] <intelikey> np
[02:35] <dudeicles> ok
[02:36] <ScorpKing> coffee arived :)
[02:37] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: Should I add hda1 to my list of hd's to mount?
[02:37] <albertmk> I have a problem. I tried to install NVidia in my Kubuntu by apt-get install nvidia-settings,apt-get install nvidia-glx,apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-386 and sudo nvidia-glx-config enable. Now my Kubuntu only works in Text Mode!
[02:38] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: no. its there
[02:38] <dudeicles> ok
[02:38] <albertmk> Any idea to resolve this big problem
[02:38] <albertmk> ?
[02:38] <phoenixz> Hi all, I have a harddrive with a linux partition which is not active and I need to set it to active.. How do I do this??
[02:38] <dudeicles> so now I should just try to copy a file to my HD's to make sure they're working?
[02:38] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: don't touch the other lines
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> albertmk: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:38] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: go to the dir and run - touch test
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> albertmk: that will allow you to go back into x.
[02:38] <dudeicles> ?
[02:39] <albertmk> before that, I d like to say that I removed all packages installed
[02:39] <dudeicles> how do you do that?
[02:39] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: go to /media/hdb1/ and run - touch test
[02:39] <albertmk> by sudo apt-get autoremove package
[02:39] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: cd
[02:39] <intelikey> ScorpKing "test" is a command you know?
[02:39] <hexstar_> holy crap pureftpd is easy to setup
[02:39] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: touch testfile
[02:39] <ScorpKing> sorry :)
[02:39] <hexstar_> or touch prettygirl
[02:39] <albertmk> ScorpKing: thanks
[02:40] <ScorpKing> for?
[02:40] <dudeicles> touch: cannot touch `testfile': Read-only file system
[02:40] <joselinares> please kubuntu in spani...
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> !es
[02:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:40] <hexstar_> !esp
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: unmount it
[02:40] <hexstar_> !es
[02:41] <dudeicles> rgr
[02:41] <hexstar_> rgr?
[02:41] <dudeicles> can't I just do sudo mount -a?
[02:41] <dudeicles> lol sorry
[02:41] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: and then remount it (/dev/hdb1)
[02:41] <joselinares> gracias
[02:41] <intelikey> hexstar_ nosrednaekim beet you to it by about 4 seconds
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> de nada
[02:41] <dudeicles> I am not priveleged to unmount
[02:41] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo umount /dev/hdb1
[02:42] <hexstar_> sudo before command dudeicles
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> ate speed...not accuracy
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> *at
[02:42] <dudeicles> someday I'll learn
[02:42] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it will be worth it...
[02:42] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ate speed,,,,  no wonder he was so quick on the draw...
[02:42] <ScorpKing> lol
[02:42] <dudeicles> now how do I remount it?
[02:43] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo mount /dev/hdb1
[02:43] <dudeicles> sudo mount -a?
[02:43] <hexstar_> right
[02:43] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: or sudo mount -a yes
[02:43] <dudeicles> shoot
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: lol
[02:43] <dudeicles> unknown file system
[02:43] <dudeicles> ntfs-3g
[02:43] <intelikey> if it has users, in the options you don't need sudo to mount it...
[02:43] <intelikey> and you will own the mount thus the umask will be you as the owner,   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39371
[02:44] <hexstar_> dudeicles: you need to install ntfs-3g
[02:44] <dudeicles> I ran the apt-get
[02:44] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g
[02:44] <hexstar_> dudeicles: did you restart after the apt-get?
[02:45] <ScorpKing> no need
[02:45] <intelikey> heh
[02:45] <hexstar_> lol k
[02:45] <hexstar_> such a hard habit to break :P
[02:45] <dudeicles> weird it must not have installed
[02:45] <dudeicles> doing it again
[02:45] <hexstar_> ok
[02:46] <hexstar_> is there a chinese kubuntu channel? :D
[02:46] <hexstar_> !ch
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <ScorpKing> funny
[02:46] <hexstar_> !asain
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <hexstar_> !asian
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <dudeicles> gonna reboot
[02:46] <dudeicles> bbiab
[02:46] <hexstar_> dudeicles: ok
[02:46] <ScorpKing> ok
[02:46] <BluesKaj> !cn
[02:46] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:46] <ScorpKing> possible
[02:47] <hexstar_> ah awesome...chinese help... :P
[02:47] <hexstar_> not that I actually speak chinese, just fun to watch :P
[02:47] <ScorpKing> u chinese?
[02:47] <ScorpKing> lol
[02:47] <dudeicles> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36256/
[02:47] <BluesKaj> how can one read the tiny font
[02:48] <underdog5004> BluesKaj, with really good eyesight
[02:48] <underdog5004> :)
[02:48] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: u done?
[02:48] <dudeicles> I was just showing intelikey my fstab
[02:48] <dudeicles> gonna reboot right now.
[02:48] <ScorpKing> ok
[02:49] <intelikey> dudeicles ok.  that should work.    sudo umount /media/* ;sudo mount -a ;ls /media/hdc1
[02:49] <BluesKaj> underdog5004, not with these old eyes ...wonder if ctrl+ works on chinese characters :)
[02:49] <underdog5004> lol
[02:49] <ScorpKing> haha
[02:50] <intelikey> or reboot ....
[02:50] <hexstar_> You should see the fonts in Mac OS 1...there is a seperate font file for each font size!
[02:51] <ScorpKing> u ppl seem bored. lol why do i have blank dns servers but i'm online?
[02:51] <hexstar_> really...it's amazing how primitive computers were originally
[02:51] <hexstar_> ScorpKing: what do you mean blank dns servers?
[02:51] <intelikey> ScorpKing cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:51] <hexstar_> You mean none set in your settings? In that case you are being assigned dhcp servers by your ISP's dhcp service
[02:51] <ScorpKing> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>         U     0      0        0 ppp0
[02:51] <hexstar_> your ISP's dhcp service is assigning you dns servers
[02:52] <dudeicles> won't do the touch command
[02:52] <ScorpKing> nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>/14 can't ping them
[02:52] <intelikey> dudeicles pastebin the output of     mount
[02:52] <ScorpKing> :)
[02:52] <dudeicles> type sudo mount?
[02:52] <intelikey> no
[02:53] <ScorpKing> no need
[02:53] <intelikey> just    mount
[02:53] <hexstar_> ScorpKing: what are you trying to ping?
[02:53] <ScorpKing> dns servers
[02:53] <ScorpKing> route on all traffic is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:53] <dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36257/
[02:54] <hexstar_> ScorpKing: I'm not sure how to view current dns servers used in linux but I'm pretty sure that your isp is assigning you dns servers via dhcp
[02:54] <albertmk> Hi, its me again
[02:54] <albertmk> I could not find NDivia option ...
[02:54] <ScorpKing> nope.
[02:54] <albertmk> My X is working but not perfectly because I could not find NDivia option, so I picked nv instead
[02:54] <albertmk> *NVidia
[02:54] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it mounted ok.
[02:54] <intelikey> type fuseblk ???
[02:55] <hexstar_> ScorpKing: it's the only possibility if you're online now and have no dns servers defined in your resolv config...you need dns servers to access websites and resolve this servers domain name
[02:55] <albertmk> ScorpKing: any idea?
[02:55] <dudeicles> but it won't allow me to do touch
[02:55] <dudeicles> so i'm sure it's not write enabled
[02:55] <hexstar_> dudeicles: sudo touch blah
[02:55] <dudeicles> oh
[02:55] <dudeicles> maybe I didn't do sudo
[02:56] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: ls -l /media/hdb1/ . what is the user?
[02:56] <dudeicles> ok no error now
[02:56] <albertmk> I ve beeing searching it and found out that people have NVIDIA option, not my case
[02:56] <intelikey> where did it get those mount options  "default_permissions"     that aint right
[02:56] <dudeicles> says dudeicles all the way down
[02:57] <ScorpKing> hexstar_: that's what i don't get. when i dailed it said there is a problem with dns, but i'm online.
[02:57] <hexstar_> I guess there isn't a way to see what dhcp has assigned for the dns servers in linux...:(
[02:58] <hexstar_> I hardwired my dns server to my router though
[02:58] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: and the permissions? -rw- something?
[02:58] <hexstar_> anyways I g2g, ttyl
[02:58] <ScorpKing> cheers
[02:58] <intelikey> what's with (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) options ???    does something else mount that    or is ntfs-3g doing that crap   or what ?
[02:58] <ScorpKing> not sure...
[02:59] <dudeicles> yeah
[02:59] <ScorpKing> i've never used ntfs on linux before. who knows
[02:59] <intelikey> i've never had an ntfs fs so i'v also never used ntfs-3g    but that looks really strange.
[02:59] <phoenixz> I have here one HD from a raid mirror twin, the other is dead. The raid was setup with linux software raid. Is there any way I can mount (or better, start up from) this disk? mount tells me its a raid volume which it does not know...
[03:00] <dudeicles> intelikey: I don't know. can we delete some of that stuff?
[03:00] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: uhm.. gimme another sec..
[03:00] <dudeicles> ScorpKing: k
[03:01] <intelikey> dudeicles if that was your fstab you pastebin'd just before the reboot there is nothing wrong with that...   and where it's pulling these wierd options in from,    i do not know....
[03:01] <ScorpKing> for those that are bored - http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php
[03:02] <dudeicles> lol me either
[03:02] <ScorpKing> it seems like the options in fstab is incorrect...
[03:02] <dudeicles> really?
[03:02] <dudeicles> how did that happen?
[03:03] <intelikey> ScorpKing which options ?
[03:03] <ScorpKing> umask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000
[03:03] <ScorpKing> maybe that should just be defaults
[03:03] <intelikey> are you saying ntfs-3g can't use those options ?
[03:04] <intelikey> the normal ntfs driver can...
[03:04] <ScorpKing> maybe. i never used it myself
[03:04] <ScorpKing> normal ntfs yes
[03:04] <intelikey> nothing wrong with those for ntfs vfat   but i don't know about ntfs-3g   man ntfs-3g might know
[03:05] <ScorpKing> :( i hate reading
[03:05] <ScorpKing> takes time...
[03:05] <dudeicles> should I just change back to ntfs in my fstab?
[03:05] <intelikey> although i would use in place of umask   fmask=133,dmask=022
[03:05] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: no
[03:06] <intelikey> cause i don't like all the files being executable
[03:06] <intelikey> Biovore no
[03:06] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: run sudo chown dudeicles:dudeicles -R /media/hdb1
[03:06] <intelikey> Biovore can't be done
[03:07] <intelikey> cant own ntfs mounts
[03:07] <ScorpKing> :(
[03:07] <ScorpKing> he sould change to ext3
[03:07] <dudeicles> well it did something.
[03:08] <Biovore> sudo mount -o user=1000,rw /dev/<deivce> /media/<mount_point>
[03:08] <dudeicles> I don't want to reformat, there's stuff on there I don't want to lose.
[03:08] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: is it working now?
[03:08] <Biovore> evernthough the write bit will not work..
[03:08] <dudeicles> not getting an error when I do sudo touch blah
[03:09] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: that's because ur touching as root.
[03:09] <intelikey> that's because you are writting as root
[03:09] <dudeicles> ok
[03:09] <dudeicles> I did just touch blah
[03:09] <dudeicles> and it worked
[03:09] <dudeicles> well I didn't get an error at least.
[03:10] <intelikey> then it worked
[03:10] <mrksbrd> is usenet a legit service? can u d/l things from it????///??
[03:10] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: the whole point of the uid and gid options in fstab is to enable you to write to the drive as a normal user.
[03:10] <dudeicles> right
[03:10] <dudeicles> mrksbrd: usenet can be legit and can be illegal
[03:10] <intelikey> mrksbrd legit is debatable,  usable  yes
[03:10] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: so it's fixed?
[03:11] <dudeicles> I think so
[03:11] <dudeicles> let me check the other drive
[03:11] <dudeicles> seems to work
[03:11] <ScorpKing> dudeicles:  then run sudo chown dudeicles:dudeicles -R /media/hdc1 as well
[03:11] <dudeicles> it's at least booting
[03:11] <mrksbrd> is it like usenext???
[03:13] <ScorpKing> dudeicles:  that will change the ownership of all the files to dudeicles so you can write without using sudo.
[03:13] <intelikey> ScorpKing will that work on vfat also ?
[03:13] <dudeicles> ok will try that
[03:14] <dudeicles> no errors
[03:14] <dudeicles> we'll see later.
[03:14] <ScorpKing> it should. linux can write fat
[03:14] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: ok
[03:14] <ScorpKing> intelikey: usb flash disks are fat
[03:14] <dudeicles> well guys thank you very much for your help, and I hope to be good enough to be of help here in the future.
[03:15] <dudeicles> anything else I should know or do to make my ubuntu experience it's best?
[03:15] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: ur welcome :-D google a lot
[03:15] <intelikey> ScorpKing it will NOT work on vfat,  and with the ntfs driver will not work on ntfs,  i can't specificly say with the ntfs-3g driver   but i know that the permissions and ownership bits are not on the drive...
[03:16] <ScorpKing> intelikey: that's why the uid and gid options are there
[03:16] <intelikey> yes
[03:16] <albertmk> Help, I cant configure my keyboard language in my Kubuntu.
[03:16] <dudeicles> alrighty then guys. I'm gonna mess around with wine for a while now.
[03:16] <intelikey> and why the chown/chmod commands do nothing to the fs
[03:16] <dudeicles> have a good one folks
[03:16] <albertmk> I used to be able to in the Kubuntu instalation process
[03:17] <ScorpKing> at last. my arse is getting ....
[03:17] <intelikey> thus "if" the ntfs-3g driver some how makes a cached perms bit some place in ram or tmp/  it's highly unlikely that it will last past a reboot
[03:18] <ScorpKing> in /etc/network/interfaces, how do i specify more than one dns-nameserver? seperate them with a comma?
[03:19] <intelikey> newline  iirc
[03:19] <johnny_> whats up everyone?
[03:19] <dudeicles> lol i'm back
[03:19] <ScorpKing> about 2.5cm
[03:19] <dudeicles> what's a good free dvd burning software?
[03:19] <Biovore> k3b
[03:19] <intelikey> cdrecord
[03:20] <johnny_> will it burn dvd movies or just pictures,text,programs,etc.?
[03:20] <dudeicles> I need to backup my files on my backup drives
[03:20] <dudeicles> in case ubuntu retaliates against them. LOL
[03:20] <intelikey> !k3b
[03:20] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[03:21] <johnny_> so
[03:21] <dudeicles> so which one's better?
[03:21] <dudeicles> lol
[03:21] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: k3b will do. just be carefull of the long filenames on the windows drives
[03:21] <johnny_> k3b
[03:21] <dudeicles> ok
[03:21] <johnny_> yep
[03:21] <johnny_> good luck
[03:21] <dudeicles> will try it out.
[03:21] <intelikey> !info cdrecord
[03:21] <ubotu> cdrecord: Dummy transition package for wodim. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.2-1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB
[03:22] <intelikey> it's the cli backend used by most burning apps  ^
[03:22] <dudeicles> hey the fstab we did will work on any version of ubuntu right?
[03:22] <dudeicles> like If I login in KDE session it will still do the same?
[03:22] <Biovore> dudeicles: fstab is common to almost all unix's
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: you and your masochism..
[03:22] <intelikey> dudeicles yes
[03:23] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ???    who i hurt ?
[03:23] <ScorpKing> it should work. not sure about the UUID drive options.
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: masochism means hurting yourself.. and enjoying it. (with the CLI)
[03:23] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ???    who i hurt ?
[03:23] <ScorpKing> nosrednaekim: he doesn't have a pet. lol
[03:23] <dudeicles> so using KDE session won't matter?
[03:23] <dudeicles> I'm gonna reboot then.
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> lol
[03:24] <dudeicles> maybe i'll come back and squeeze your knowledge. LOL
[03:24] <ScorpKing> dudeicles: it wont
[03:24] <Krum> hm
[03:24] <Krum> anyone recommend any good irc chatrooms just for talking?
[03:25] <Krum> no technical issues or anything just looking for a way to kill some time
[03:25] <ScorpKing> can anyone tell me how to get the chatroom list on freenode?
[03:25] <BonBonTheJon> Krum: #kubuntu_offtopic?
[03:25] <Jucato> Krum: ##offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:25] <Krum> tryed that i get an error saying it can't connect
[03:25] <Jucato> BonBonTheJon: dash, not underscore :)
[03:26] <Krum> but i'll try again
[03:26] <Krum> brb
[03:26] <BonBonTheJon> ScorpKing: in Konversation, hit F2
[03:26] <DaSkreech> !offtopic
[03:26] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:26] <ScorpKing> BonBonTheJon: thanks
[03:26] <BonBonTheJon> Jucato: I see :), I'm used to working in C
[03:27] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hi everyone. How do I configure my KDE so that a specific application starts whenever I log in?
[03:27] <ScorpKing> BonBonTheJon: there is only one. i'm looking for php channels among some of them.
[03:28] <Jucato> AirstrikeIvanov: by default, any app you leave open when you log out gets started when you login
[03:28] <flaccid0ss> !autostart | AirstrikeIvanov
[03:28] <ubotu> AirstrikeIvanov: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[03:28] <BonBonTheJon> ScorpKing: try F5, maybe
[03:29] <ScorpKing> AirstrikeIvanov: add a link to the app in .kde/Autostart/
[03:29] <ScorpKing> BonBonTheJon: i get a warning about lots of traffic.
[03:30] <BonBonTheJon> ScorpKing: yeah, there are LOTS of channels
[03:30] <ScorpKing> BonBonTheJon: lol. thats it. thanks :)
[03:31] <Krum> ok
[03:31] <ScorpKing> is there a nice 3d aquarium screensaver for linux?
[03:31] <Krum> anyone know any only about video game irc channels?
[03:32] <juan_> when i run beryl i get this error? but i have the glx stuff in my xorg > extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing: Atlantis
[03:32] <ScorpKing> let me google...
[03:32] <Krum> google away my god sir
[03:33] <Krum> good
[03:33] <Krum> hmm
[03:33] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:34] <rdvon_> I'm having problems with qtparted.. It says my hard disk has at least 7 bad sectors.. :(
[03:34] <rdvon_> er.. im having problems with my hard drive
[03:34] <Krum> any programs for linux that are free that can write movies to a dvd
[03:34] <flaccid0ss> rdvon: run fsck with the -c flag
[03:34] <Krum> ?
[03:34] <ScorpKing> nosrednaekim:  wow. not bad! :D thanks
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> NP
[03:34] <flaccid0ss> Krum: search the wiki for dvdauthoring
[03:35] <rdvon_> oh, and could the op kick rdvon. I left my other pc on...
[03:35] <Krum> wikipedia or the wiki on ubuntu.com?
[03:35] <rdvon_> ;)
[03:35] <flaccid0ss> Krum: ubuntu wiki
[03:36] <ScorpKing> rdvon_: no ops. if you have to recover use dd_rescue. it works good on hd's with bad blocks
[03:36] <rdvon_> flaccid0ss: it printed this out when I ran it in the terminal: fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[03:37] <flaccid0ss> rdvon_: correct.
[03:37] <rdvon_> flaccid0ss: was something else supposed to popup :P
[03:38] <rdvon_> Scorpking: I'm running a live cd of kubuntu..
[03:38] <ScorpKing> rdvon_: that will be a bit more complicated then. :D
[03:38] <lealgo> hi
[03:38] <rdvon_> er.. how complicated :D
[03:39] <flaccid0ss> rdvon: no. you probably want to run it with the -CV options then run badblocks on it after
[03:39] <flaccid0ss> !info smartmontools
[03:39] <ubotu> smartmontools: control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.36-8ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 256 kB, installed size 624 kB
[03:39] <flaccid0ss> also smart checks
[03:39] <ScorpKing> rdvon_: not too much.
[03:40] <rdvon_> flaccid0ss: I use smart tools than? :)
[03:40] <flaccid0ss> rdvon_: what do you mean. they do different things.
[03:40] <rdvon_> your confusing me flaccid.
[03:41] <rdvon_> i've never dealt with this problem before :)
[03:41] <ScorpKing> smartmontools is to prevent data loss. it warns you in advance
[03:41] <rdvon_> oh.
[03:41] <flaccid0ss> ok. fsck checks the file system for errors. badblocks checks the physical sectors for bad blocks. smartmon tools checks it for physical damage, number of spins left etc.
[03:41] <flaccid0ss> it warns you in advance if you run smartd
[03:42] <flaccid0ss> but smart won't mark badblocks are bad so they are not used again, thats where a surface scan with badblocks is required
[03:43] <rdvon_> flaccid0ss: badblocks gives me a bunch of options when I run.. what flag do i run it with?
[03:43] <ScorpKing> dd_rescue is to copy a bad drive to a new one.
[03:43] <rdvon_> Ah.
[03:43] <flaccid0ss> rdvon_: -svw
[03:44] <flaccid0ss> make sure disks is not mounted when doing these
[03:44] <rdvon_> should've told me tha before ;)
[03:44] <ScorpKing> i don't see dd_rescue in the repos so you'll have to download and compile it. thats the not so easy part. from a live cd that is :D
[03:45] <rdvon_> er... how do i check if my hard drive is moutned?
[03:45] <rdvon_> :)
[03:46] <rdvon_> *new kde user :>
[03:46] <ScorpKing> mount
[03:46] <flaccid0ss> rdvon_: you should read the man pages
[03:47] <ScorpKing> they help. in the long run... lol
[03:47] <fati> does anyone happen to know if there's a clean way to downgrade my kernel to a previous feisty version?
[03:47] <rdvon_> ok. /dev/hda doesnt show up in the mount list :)
[03:48] <rdvon_> how do i read the manual for mounting hard drives?
[03:48] <ScorpKing> man mount
[03:48] <rdvon_> xD
[03:48] <ScorpKing> good luck :D
[03:48] <rdvon_> couldn't resist :)
[03:48] <flaccid0ss> no wonder you have to spoon fed, you don't read anything..
[03:48] <rdvon_> :O
[03:49] <rdvon_> I read a crap load.
[03:49] <ScorpKing> as they say, spoons are there for a reason. lol
[03:49] <rdvon_> just not manuals.
[03:49] <flaccid0ss> well starting reading them. don't know a switch for a command, look in the man page. one day you might be able to read a man page, action the command without help!
[03:50] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:50] <rdvon_> especially reading them in the terminal :\
[03:51] <rdvon_> meh
[03:51] <flaccid0ss> ah so the problem is laziness then :)
[03:51] <rdvon_> :)
[03:52] <NickPresta> rdvon_, you also want to remember "apropos". In order to use the man pages, you have to know what page to turn to ;)
[03:52] <rdvon_> xD I figured out why bad blocks wasnt scanning, I forgot to put /dev/hda
[03:52] <fati> oh hai, can i haz a halp?
[03:52] <rdvon_> yes
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> fati: yeah
[03:53] <rdvon_> you can haz a lot of help :D
[03:53] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:53] <fati> wow, i can't believe i got serious responses for that :)
[03:53] <rdvon_> we're helpful.
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> "halpful"
[03:53] <ScorpKing> even while we need help...
[03:53] <rdvon_> your names fati.. I expected something was wrong :)
[03:53] <ScorpKing> wong not wrong. lol
[03:54] <rdvon_> vewy vewy wong.
[03:54] <fati> i haz a kernel needs downgrading to the one feisty fursion that werked
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> haha
[03:54] <rdvon_> er... you haz a kernel needs downgrading?
[03:54] <NickPresta> fati, have you opened up your package manager? You should see a couple kernel versions...
[03:54] <fati> yez
[03:54] <fati> yea, there's one meta package for linux-generic
[03:55] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:55] <fati> and then a few other packages that don't install properly and yell at me for not using the meta package
[03:55] <ScorpKing> mmm... ouch
[03:56] <Evolution2> hi guys. quick question. iam trying to install a window decoration called "crystal" but it gives me this "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:56] <Evolution2> roy@roy-laptop:~/crystal-1.0.5$ " when i type ./configure
[03:56] <NickPresta> !dev
[03:56] <ubotu> Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[03:56] <ScorpKing> would placing another kernel in /boot/ and editing /boot/grub/menu.list to boot from it work?
[03:57] <ScorpKing> Evolution2: you need libx-dev
[03:57] <NickPresta> Evolution2, you need the -dev packages. Also, check out the binary: kwin-style-crystal
[03:57] <Evolution2> ok
[03:57] <ScorpKing> Evolution2: or something like that.
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> Evolution2: crytal is installed by default.. and is, in fact, the default window DECO!
[03:58] <Evolution2> its this one
[03:58] <rdvon_> how long does this hd scan take.
[03:58] <Evolution2> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal?content=13969
[03:58] <ScorpKing> long
[03:58] <rdvon_> :O
[03:58] <ScorpKing> how big is ur drive?
[03:59] <rdvon_> 80 gigs
[03:59] <ScorpKing> i'd guess about 2/3 hours min...
[03:59] <ScorpKing> haha
[03:59] <rdvon_> :)
[04:01] <rdvon_> can i use remote desktop over the internet?
[04:01] <NickPresta> !ssh
[04:02] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> rdvon_: if you set up prot forwarding properly, yes
[04:03] <Dudeicles> well I tried to copy a file to my /usr/... and it said I did not have rights
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> HELP!!!! MY Kubuntu crashed! I want to do all those special effects things!  LOL
[04:05] <intelikey> him are
[04:05] <Dudeicles> they was
[04:05] <intelikey> they be
[04:05] <stdin> !sudo | Dudeicles
[04:05] <Tm_T> stop that
[04:05] <ubotu> Dudeicles: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:05] <BluesKaj> beryl is for the visually deprived :)
[04:05] <ScorpKing> stdin: he is using ntfs-3g partitions and want to write as a normal user
[04:06] <intelikey> Tm_T problem ?
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> beryl is for the technically enlightened
[04:06] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: still... :(
[04:06] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: no it's for those who like flashy grills and spinning wheels
[04:06] <flaccid0ss> ntfs-3g defaults is write by user
[04:06] <stdin> ScorpKing: I'd hope /usr isn't on an ntfs partition
[04:06] <Tm_T> intelikey: foofoo talking, I don't like to see it here now
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: wheels are useless if they don't spin..
[04:07] <ScorpKing> stdin: true... lol
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> *ducks
[04:07] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: /media/hd* or /usr?
[04:07] <rdvon_> Daskreech: compiz fusion is for sophisticated human beings :)
[04:07] <Dudeicles> on /usr
[04:07] <DaSkreech> !language | nosrednaekim Heehee
[04:07] <ubotu> nosrednaekim Heehee: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:07] <BluesKaj> eye candy is for fluff worshipers
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> haha
[04:07] <Dudeicles> using file explorer though
[04:08] <Dudeicles> that shouldn't make a difference should it?
[04:08] <DaSkreech> kwin_composite for the KDE!
[04:08] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: ur not suppose to write there.
[04:08] <Tm_T> nickbuntu: why this nickspam?
[04:08] <Dudeicles> well to add skins to my XMMS that's where I have to put them.
[04:08] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to get Xubuntu running on a Dell Latitude LS laptop, and the eth0 device doesn't work.
[04:08] <rdvon_> BluesKaj: Who don't wanta their eyes to fall out of their sockets. :P
[04:08] <Kr4t05> :/
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: #xubuntu
[04:09] <Dudeicles> to /USR/SHARE/XMMS/SKINS
[04:09] <Dudeicles> LOL
[04:09] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: the only place u are allowed to change or add files is in /home/dudeicles/.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> gee lookit the spinning cubes with writing om them...ever cool :)
[04:09] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: They;re all idle. Besides, this isn't a DE-specific issue.
[04:09] <FirmWare> spam ?
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: ok..
[04:09] <intelikey> Tm_T yeah it is rather busy right now.    or    it be  ;/
[04:09] <Dudeicles> so i'm required to use sudo to write to this place.
[04:09] <stdin> FirmWare: pick a nickname and go with it
[04:09] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: most apps have dir inside ur homedir for that
[04:09] <intelikey> Dudeicles i don't know if anyone explained it or not but most things in linux are case sensitive
[04:09] <Tm_T> FirmWare: you keep changing your nick, it causes spam to all channels you are in
[04:10] <FirmWare> sorry
[04:10] <Dudeicles> lol i've heard that.
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: what does ifconfig show?
[04:10] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: browse ur homedir and under view select show hidden files
[04:10] <wabbit> this might be a dumb question but what do i run to get a proxy server with user auth running?
[04:10] <intelikey> Dudeicles so /USR/SHARE/XMMS/SKINS will not exits...
[04:10] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: Beh... Can't really pastebin... One sec...
[04:10] <Dudeicles> oh right.
[04:10] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: the dir will be .xmms or something
[04:10] <intelikey> exist even.
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: just tell me if it shows an eth0
[04:11] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: Yes, it does.
[04:11] <Dudeicles> how would I get to that in konqueror?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: try running "sudo dhclient eth0"
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> check and make sure the wire is plugged in
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[04:11] <Kr4t05> Oh...
[04:12] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: under view
[04:12] <Kr4t05> I had it plugged in, but I only have one ethernet cable...
[04:12] <Kr4t05> One sec.
[04:12] <intelikey> Dudeicles in konq you can enter path just like you would enter url's    file:///some/place/on/my/system
[04:12] <Kr4t05> nosrednaekim: BRB
[04:12] <Dudeicles> ok then, what is .xmms?
[04:12] <intelikey> probably a dir in your home
[04:13] <Dudeicles> ok will look
[04:13] <ScorpKing> Dudeicles: the directory where you can put all ur custom xmms settings and skins
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: k
[04:13] <DaSkreech> Dudeicles: If it has a . it's hidden
[04:13] <Dudeicles> oh ok.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> xmms = winamp in linux' clothing
[04:13] <intelikey> Dudeicles wont see it if 'show hiden files' is not checked in the [view]  menu
[04:13] <DaSkreech> If you are looking in the GUI turn on hidden files if you aer looking on the terminal use -a
[04:14] <Dudeicles> well then that makes much more sense
[04:14] <intelikey> DaSkreech has a .   no.  starts with .
[04:14] <scienceboy> hi. does anyone know where i can get the driver to work the wireless card 'netgear wireless PC card 32 bit cardbus MA521'?
[04:15] <DaSkreech> intelikey: My apologies
[04:15] <Dudeicles> I will be sure brb
[04:15] <Dudeicles> whoops
[04:15] <Dudeicles> just brb
[04:16] <intelikey> !wifi | scienceboy if this link doesn't help then not i ...
[04:16] <ubotu> scienceboy if this link doesn't help then not i ...: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:18] <intelikey> Tm_T all quiet now.   is foofoo talk ok ?
[04:18] <intelikey> :)
[04:18] <Tm_T> intelikey: you cant use -ot ?
[04:18] <scienceboy> intelikey: thank you! am going to check out now
[04:19] <intelikey> Tm_T no fun bothering the ops in there....
[04:19] <Tm_T> intelikey: you mean me?
[04:19] <intelikey> errr   ahhh   well....
[04:19] <Tm_T> haha
[04:20] <SuprUsr> nosrednaekim: I tried what you told me and then tried to ping my router.
[04:20] <SuprUsr> No dice.
[04:20] <devilz> hi can someone tell me how to reconfigure X
[04:20] <Jucato> intelikey: meet operator Tm_T :)
[04:20] <devilz> when i log to my desktop my screen is blinking
[04:20] <SuprUsr> devilz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:20] <quodlibetor> hi all, i was wondering if anybody knew where i could download a vlc .deb package for feisty ppc/ps3? My ps3 isn't connected to the internet so i can't do the normal thing.
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> SuprUsr: hmmm.
[04:20] <intelikey> Jucato i knew that long time now...  :)
[04:20] <stdin> scienceboy: take a look at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=76385
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> SuprUsr: i'm not too good with ethernet issues... sorry
[04:21] <Kr4t05> Right. It's okay.
[04:21] <Kr4t05> Thanks.
[04:21] <Tm_T> intelikey: you didnt know I was op in -ot too? weird, so you havent been there much then :/
[04:21] <Britni> Hi all, I am very new to Kubuntu, I have a question..
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> Britni: go ahead..
[04:22] <Jucato> welcome! ask away
[04:22] <Britni> I just installed Kubuntu, and I am not getting any sound.
[04:22] <intelikey> Tm_T yes i knew you were op in *buntu* and no i have been in -ot about three times for a total of one rand and two peek-a-boo's
[04:22] <Britni> the player is playing, but no sound, speakers powered on, connected.
[04:22] <Minataku> At least you're not getting a fatal kernel oops like I am
[04:22] <Minataku> lol
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> Britni: did you raise the volumes on ALL the channels in the mixer?
[04:22] <DaSkreech> Britni: check to make sure the volume is up
[04:22] <Britni> Let me do that now, brb
[04:23] <DaSkreech> Britni: middle click on the speaker
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: gentoo...
[04:23] <intelikey> s/rand/rant/
[04:23] <Britni> Power all the way up, yes.
[04:23] <Tm_T> intelikey: so you know I'm scary hairy monster from mars
[04:23] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Yeah, new kernel
[04:23] <quodlibetor> anybody?

[04:23] <holycow> does anyone remember how to enable kdm themes on gutsy? i think i haveto delete an rcd file
[04:23] <Minataku> Not working out too well, it seems
[04:23] <Jucato> !offtopic | Tm_T
[04:23] <ubotu> Tm_T: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:24] <Minataku> I'm not going to bother debugging it for now
[04:24] <holycow> this time around its not giving me the readme to look up what needs to be changed
[04:24] <Minataku> I'll wait until 2.6.23 is stable
[04:24] <Minataku> Since this is an RC5
[04:24] <holycow> oh and kbfx rules
[04:24] <holycow> kudos to whomever decided to drop that into this release
[04:25] <Minataku> Oh well, I pray now that dropping back to a known working kernel will stop the panics
[04:25] <Tm_T> holycow: I use Kicker with Kickoff :/
[04:25] <Minataku> This kernel had a 176 day uptime, it should stay strong
[04:25] <holycow> whats that?
[04:27] <Tm_T> !kickoff | holycow
[04:27] <ubotu> holycow: Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[04:28] <holycow> oh i thought it was kbfx?
[04:28] <DaSkreech> !sound | Britni
[04:28] <ubotu> Britni: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:29] <rdvon_> this is taking way too long >:O
[04:30] <NickPresta> @Tm_T: we're kick buddies ;)
[04:30] <Tm_T> NickPresta: ?
[04:30] <NickPresta> kicker and kickoff. Quite an awesome combination, no?
[04:30] <Tm_T> meh
[04:31] <NickPresta> not a fan?
[04:31] <Tm_T> NickPresta: hmm, not a fan, been poking sources enough to say its ok but could be much better
[04:32] <Minataku> Sorry, BTW, talking out loud to nobody in particular in an effort to keep my sanity
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: do it over at #gentoo.... they are more sypathetic
[04:33] <intelikey> foofoo talkin' y'all
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic | all
[04:33] <ubotu> all: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:33] <Britni> ok just checked connections, they are there , wil now check ARTS, brb
[04:35] <intelikey> speeking of arts   is it possable to pre-amp the output of a sound card?    best volume i can get out of this ac'97  is about headphone quality...
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: amarok does it somehow..
[04:35] <intelikey> quiet headphone that is.
[04:36] <intelikey> nosrednaekim ?
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> what?
[04:36] <Britni> Sound is Enabled, I do have a CD with the Linux drivers on it. should I try and install them?
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> Britni: whats rhe card/ chipset ?
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> *the
[04:36] <BluesKaj> intelikey, the output of the soundard should be in the 100millivolt range , enuff to drive an outboard amp
[04:37] <intelikey> yeah should be     oprative word being "should"
[04:37] <BluesKaj> old card
[04:37] <BluesKaj> ?
[04:37] <intelikey> onboard
[04:38] <Britni> Now sure of chip, where can I find that info?
[04:38] <Tm_T> NickPresta: come by in #kubuntu-offtopic and I will explain about my kickoff ;)
[04:38] <Britni> brb, let me grab the CD.
[04:38] <intelikey> BluesKaj all my sound cards are isa   there is no isa slot on this board    cheep peace of junk.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> anyone seen raptor in the wild?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> intelikey, bummer  :(
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: raptor?
[04:40] <NickPresta> DaSkreech, I'm strict anti-raptor.
[04:40] <DaSkreech> serious?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> why?
[04:40] <intelikey> BluesKaj as if that werent bad enough it only has two pci slots.   i may have to pipe sound out the serial port...
[04:40] <Jucato> K Menu alternatives discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It may be our only menu in two releases :)
[04:42] <hydrogen> mm
[04:42] <BluesKaj> ahh, that could be a prob intelikey , the impedance matching could be way off on the output connection, hence the loss in output level
[04:42] <hydrogen> but it isn't now
[04:42] <hydrogen> so its -offtopic!
[04:45] <holycow> is there a kickoff package for gutsy?
[04:46] <Britni> I think I found the chip: cm8338
[04:46] <ScorpKing> i'm gone... cheers ppl. :)
[04:46] <Jucato> none
[04:46] <stdin> holycow: not in the normal repos, no (I don't think there is a package for any version in the repos)
[04:46] <holycow> is there are private repo available? just curious to try it out
[04:47] <Jucato> holycow: http://kde-apps.org or http://kde-look.org has a Kubuntu package lying around I think
[04:47] <holycow> danke
[04:47] <stdin> like http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=55864
[04:47] <BluesKaj> well folks ...starting to nod off .. sacktime, night all
[04:48] <nosrednaekim> Britni: do a "lspci | grep sound" for me.
[04:49] <intelikey> [17192928.408000]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[04:49] <intelikey> ooops  sorry
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Since we are on a sound kick how do I make my speakers be the main sound control?
[04:50] <dudeicles> intelikey: still have no permision to write my ntfs drives. LOL
[04:50] <Kr4t05> Guh...
[04:50] <Britni> Do I do that in terminal
[04:50] <dudeicles> i'm just about to the point of accepting it won't happen. LOL
[04:50] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: right click on the mixer and say "set default channel"
[04:50] <nosrednaekim> Britni: yep
[04:50] <Britni> ok
[04:50] <intelikey> dudeicles did you ever try the fstab i posted ?
[04:50] <dudeicles> oh no
[04:51] <dudeicles> I didn't see it.
[04:51] <DaSkreech> nosrednaekim: ah apparently thats not what I meant :)
[04:51] <DaSkreech>  how do I bind my multimedia keys to speaker instead of headphones
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> Britni: paste the result here.
[04:52] <DaSkreech> what aout !paste
[04:53] <nosrednaekim> DaSkreech: its one little line.... and what DID you want?
[04:53] <intelikey> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g rw,users,user,fmask=133,dmask=022,noauto 0 0
[04:53] <intelikey> /dev/hdc1 on /media/hdc1 ntfs-3g rw,users,user,fmask=133,dmask=022,noauto 0 0
[04:53] <intelikey> dudeicles ^^^
[04:53] <dudeicles> k i'll change those only
[04:53] <dudeicles> then sudo mount -a?
[04:53] <Britni>  I am trying to do that command, can you bring me up in a seperate window?
[04:53] <intelikey> sudo umount -a ;sudo mount -a
[04:54] <intelikey> no
[04:54] <intelikey> scratch that
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> Britni: sent you a PM
[04:54] <intelikey> sudo umount /media/* ;mount /media/hdb1
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> Britni: umm if you didn't get my pm... you need to register. but anyway... just state your problem here.
[04:55] <intelikey> and test /media/hdb1 with normal testing procedures.   if ok   then mount /media/hdc1      and test it.   else report
[04:56] <intelikey> note     do not use sudo on the mount command.
[04:57] <DaSkreech> !register | Britni
[04:57] <ubotu> Britni: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:57] <dudeicles> paste it just like that? sudo umount /media/* ;mount /media/hdb1
[04:57] <intelikey> yep
[04:58] <dudeicles> line 12 and line 13 are bad.
[04:58] <dudeicles> no final newline at the end
[04:58] <intelikey> pastebin your fstab file    i'll have a look
[04:58] <hydrogen> uhh
[04:58] <hydrogen> unregistered users can recieve pm's
[04:58] <dudeicles> k
[04:58] <hydrogen> they just can't send them
[04:59] <Britni> I am trying to register,, having trouble findind the location. or how to start./
[04:59] <intelikey> hydrogen that's right
[04:59] <dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36263/
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> Britni: don't worry about it.... what did that command give you?
[05:00] <intelikey> dudeicles heh  remove the word   ON    the second word both lines
[05:00] <intelikey>    sorry...
[05:00] <intelikey> dudeicles i'll try to pay closer attention     that was my bad.
[05:01] <dudeicles> no problem
[05:01] <dudeicles> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[05:01] <dudeicles> what does that mean?
[05:01] <intelikey> means there isnt a blank line at the bottom
[05:01] <stdin> means you need to put a new line at the end of the file
[05:02] <dudeicles> lol ok
[05:02] <stdin> error messages aren't that cryptic :)
[05:02] <dudeicles> ok so now it should be ok?
[05:02] <intelikey> and that particular message is only a warning.  not an error
[05:02] <intelikey> should
[05:02] <intelikey> test it
[05:03] <dudeicles> touch ?
[05:03] <intelikey> how ever you want to test it...  copy and paste a file into the dir if you like...
[05:03] <dudeicles> touch /media/hdb1/
[05:03] <intelikey> not that   that needs a file on the end
[05:04] <intelikey> touch /media/hdb1/something
[05:04] <dudeicles> didn't mount
[05:04] <dudeicles> or it's empty
[05:04] <dudeicles> lol
[05:04] <intelikey> mount /media/hdb1
[05:04] <intelikey> test it again.
[05:04] <dudeicles> still nothing
[05:05] <intelikey> pastebin the output of      mount
[05:05] <intelikey> lets see if it's mounted some place else
[05:05] <dudeicles> don't see it
[05:06] <dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36264/
[05:07] <Britni> I tried that command in Terminal, and it acts like I did not type it correctly.
[05:07] <Britni> lspci | grep sound <-=  is what I typed, is this correct.
[05:07] <intelikey> dudeicles ok.    and;   mount /media/hdb1      gives error ???
[05:07] <dudeicles> no errors
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> Britni: ah..ok. then just run "lspci" and pastebin the ourput.
[05:08] <Britni> ok
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | Britni
[05:08] <ubotu> Britni: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:08] <|deacon|> may I ask for some help with getting a custom background in Konsole?
[05:09] <yintelike> is anything using /media/* dudeicles a filemanager or terminal ?
[05:09] <yintelike> brb
[05:10] <|deacon|> bah...
[05:10] <|deacon|> may I ask for some help with getting a custom background in Konsole?
[05:10] <Britni> ok paste has been done.
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> Britni: many appologies, but I have to go.
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> Britni: you have to provide a link to it.
[05:10] <Britni> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36265/
[05:10] <intelikey> back
[05:11] <dudeicles> wb
[05:11] <intelikey> dudeicles is anything using the mountpoint ?    file manager   terminal ???
[05:11] <dudeicles> don't think so
[05:11] <Perseid> I just upgraded to Feisty and I notice now that it's mounting my NTFS partitions as RW. Is this safe? Is there anything I need to do?
[05:12] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | Perseid
[05:12] <ubotu> Perseid: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:12] <|deacon|> does anyone here know how I can get konsole to display a custom background?  I've given it the setting to use a file I chose, but it doesn't display..
[05:13] <stdin> Perseid: ^ that was probably just install and used by default now, it's safe for most things, especially if you don#t actually write to it
[05:13] <intelikey> dudeicles    mount /dev/hdb1 && echo mounted || echo failed
[05:14] <dudeicles> failed
[05:14] <Perseid> So this 3G works isn't experimental and isn't going to eat my data? :)
[05:14] <intelikey> dudeicles       ls -l /bin/mount
[05:14] <intelikey> Perseid i didn't say that.
[05:15] <stdin> Perseid: it's not experimental any more, it's considered stable, but it always has the (small) chance of messing it up. but it shouldn't and won't with normal use
[05:15] <|deacon|> !konsole
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <dudeicles> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 97092 2007-03-12 09:46 /bin/mount
[05:16] <intelikey> ok that is  suid   so that's not the problem
[05:17] <adenicio> stdin: i just bought my graph card how do i know if the drivers for it are install?it's a ati card and in monitor display > hardware it says its a vesa graphic card and driver : vesa
[05:18] <dudeicles> should I try sudo mount /media/hdb1?
[05:18] <intelikey> dudeicles ok that should not be happening.   lets change the fstab one more time.
[05:18] <stdin> adenicio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:18] <dudeicles> or are we trying to make a point.
[05:18] <dudeicles> ok will do.
[05:18] <intelikey> /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs-3g uid=1000,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[05:18] <intelikey> /dev/hdc1 /media/hdc1 ntfs-3g uid=1000,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[05:19] <intelikey> then issue     sudo mount -a            and test as normal...
[05:19] <adenicio> stdin: tanks and where u on vacation or something i haven seen u much around
[05:19] <intelikey> i'll have to make an ntfs something er other and play with ntfs-3g  to see what is happening there..
[05:20] <adenicio> stdin: or u does only be there the beginin of the month
[05:20] <stdin> adenicio: I took a "break" for about a week, I only checked emails
[05:21] <dudeicles> won't let me drop anything in there using Konqueror
[05:21] <adenicio> stdin: oh email?do people email you the problems?
[05:21] <intelikey> dudeicles ok you are not going to     media://   in konqueror are you ?
[05:21] <stdin> well, yeah, I'm on the kubuntu-users list
[05:21] <dudeicles> yeah
[05:21] <intelikey> dudeicles that's why
[05:22] <dudeicles> media/hdb1
[05:22] <dudeicles> LOL so i'm an ignorant punk ain't I?
[05:22] <intelikey> dudeicles go to file:///media/hdb1     in konq
[05:23] <intelikey> test that.     i'm not sure you were actually accessing the kio slave  but if so   that's enough reason to make it not write there.
[05:23] <adenicio> !oh my | dudeicles
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh my - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <dudeicles> takes me to the same place.
[05:23] <adenicio> !ohmy | dudeicles
[05:23] <ubotu> dudeicles: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:23] <intelikey> dudeicles maybe.   test it
[05:23] <stdin> adenicio: why the !ohmy ?
[05:24] <dudeicles> nothing
[05:24] <intelikey> adenicio is ignorant a bad word ?
[05:24] <dudeicles> lol
[05:24] <dudeicles> :P
[05:24] <adenicio> lol
[05:24] <|deacon|> ok anyone up for helping my dumb self with a konsole question?
[05:24] <intelikey> dudeicles nothing as in   fails your test ?
[05:24] <dudeicles> right
[05:25] <adenicio> no but the word pu** came out a little strong
[05:25] <intelikey> dudeicles or nothing as in not mounted... ?
[05:25] <dudeicles> tried to copy a .txt file and it says the same.
[05:25] <intelikey> k
[05:25] <stdin> adenicio: punk is not a "bad word" :)
[05:25] <Combatjuan> What program/protocol is generally used to transfer files between to linux boxes (assume neither is an ftp/http server).  scp?  Is there a samba like protocol that isn't samba?
[05:25] <intelikey> dudeicles show me the output of     mount | grep hdb
[05:25] <dudeicles> k
[05:26] <|deacon|> ?
[05:26] <scienceboy> does anyone know where i can get rtl8180_24x.o from the realtek website?
[05:26] <dudeicles> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[05:26] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: What is your question?
[05:26] <intelikey> dudeicles you can post it here   should be one line
[05:27] <dudeicles> intelikey: will do
[05:27] <dudeicles> :)
[05:27] <|deacon|> trying to get a custom schema going but Konsole won't display the jpg I've chosen
[05:27] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: "Don't ask to ask, just ask."
[05:27] <|deacon|> just trying to be polite Combatjuan  ;)
[05:27] <intelikey> and you should not have to edit it first.....
[05:27] <stdin> Combatjuan: there are many, if you want to use ssh (scp) then you can use sftp:/ in konqueror (like sftp://user@host/home/user )
[05:28] <intelikey> just prepend a space so the irc client doesn't balk.
[05:28] <dudeicles>  /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[05:28] <dudeicles> righto
[05:28] <intelikey> k
[05:29] <intelikey> there has to be an /etc/ntfs*   configuration file...   cause it's ignoring the mount options...       dudeicles i'
[05:29] <|deacon|> anybody have an idea as to why Konsole wouldn't want to use the file I've chosen for the background in a custom schema?
[05:29] <adenicio> dudeicles: wat are u doing?trying to get read rite on your ntfs hdd's?
[05:29] <intelikey> i'll have to excues my self from that until i learn more about what ntfs-3g is doing.
[05:29] <dudeicles> yeah adenicio
[05:30] <dudeicles> no problem intelikey
[05:30] <adenicio> dudeicles: are u on kubuntu 7.04?
[05:30] <dudeicles> intelikey: is the plain ntfs ok to try?
[05:30] <dudeicles> yes
[05:30] <scienceboy> does anyone know where i can get rtl8180_24x.o from the realtek website?
[05:30] <dudeicles> adenicio: yes
[05:30] <Combatjuan> stdin: I don't think that my kubuntu came with an sftp daemon installed either.  sftp:// isn't working in konqueror.  Assume a vanilla Ubuntu install.
[05:31] <intelikey> dudeicles yes just drop the -3g in the fstab  should work     but.   i can't promice that it wont end up corrupting your ntfs if you do a lot of writing.
[05:31] <adenicio> dudeicles: is your hdd inside your pc,or external? if inside is it mounted allready?
[05:31] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: I just tried it with kde_gears.jpg and it seemed to work fine for me.  Although not only did I have to create the schema, I also had to set my current console to use that shema.
[05:31] <dudeicles> inside
[05:31] <dudeicles> adenicio: it mounts auto from fstab
[05:31] <stdin> Combatjuan: you have to install ssh to use it, there is a samba client installed by default, but not a server
[05:31] <stdin> Combatjuan: there are no services installed by default, so you'll need to pick one
[05:32] <Combatjuan> stdin: Thanks.  That's exactly what I was wondering.
[05:32] <adenicio> dudeicles: ok.have u install ntfs-config from adept manerger?
[05:32] <intelikey> dudeicles you should pastbin your fstab file   and point adenicio at the link
[05:32] <dudeicles> don't think so
[05:32] <dudeicles> intelikey:  I will now
[05:33] <stdin> !away > rdvon_afk
[05:33] <scienceboy> does anyone know where i can get rtl8180_24x.o from the realtek website? i need it to install a wireless card on kubuntu
[05:33] <|deacon|> Combatjuan, I can make changes to a custom schema as far as the colors go, but it doesn't seem to pick up the background image.  Were you able o use a jpg?
[05:33] <dudeicles> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36266/
[05:33] <intelikey> adenicio   ^
[05:33] <eljefe> does anyone know how to enable a taskbar / panel for only 1 desktop, rather than having all panels on all desktops (or none on none)?
[05:33] <dudeicles> sorry
[05:34] <dudeicles> i keep forgetting to put the nick in front
[05:35] <Combatjuan> eljefe: The panel itself or the items in the taskbar (like konsole, firefox, etc...)?
[05:35] <Jucato> eljefe: do you mean that you don't want the list of running apps in the taskbar to show all running windows on all desktops? or you want the whole panel to only be on one desktop?
[05:36] <eljefe> i want various panels on different desktops, but only the pager to be common across all of them...
[05:36] <dudeicles> adenicio: any ideas?
[05:36] <kat> haha don't mean to hijack the q&a, but I totally lost my running apps in my taskbar a while ago...
[05:36] <stdin> scienceboy: http://tinyurl.com/ygw9ka ?
[05:37] <Combatjuan> eljefe: I don't think there is any easy way to make the panel itself only exist on one desktop (this would probably require changes to the source code).  If you want only programs from that desktop, right click on the panel, configure panel, Taskbar on the left, uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[05:37] <adenicio> dudeicles: did u name your hdd's hdc1 etc?
[05:37] <dudeicles> yes
[05:37] <Jucato> kat: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> Taskbar
[05:37] <dudeicles> they mount ok
[05:37] <dudeicles> just not writeable
[05:37] <kat> I said "screw it" and just used alt/tab instead, but ah ok thanks
[05:37] <dudeicles> unless i'm root
[05:37] <soulrider> !installing
[05:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:37] <adenicio> dudeicles: so now all u want is to read and rite acces?
[05:37] <|deacon|> unfortunatly I'm unable to make Konsole use a background image...does anyone else have any ideas?
[05:37] <scienceboy> stdin: thank you!
[05:37] <dudeicles> adenicio: rite
[05:37] <dudeicles> got read
[05:38] <soulrider> !software
[05:38] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[05:38] <eljefe> Combatjuan: yeah thats all i could figure out also.  thanks!
[05:38] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: Is it a specific image that doesn't work?  What steps have you tried?
[05:38] <|deacon|> I've tried numerous files..basically made a new schema with custom colors and a background image, than told the session to use that schema when I exited the settings
[05:39] <scienceboy> does anyone know why the global shortcut for 'play/pause' in amarok does not work for me?
[05:39] <|deacon|> it will use my color setting but not a file...does it have to be a .png or can it be a jpg?
[05:39] <scienceboy> i have it set to alt+p
[05:39] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: Yes, mine was a jpeg.  It was specifically: /usr/share/wallpapers/default_gears.jpg
[05:39] <adenicio> dudeicles:run  kdesu ntfs-config then enable write
[05:39] <dudeicles> k
[05:39] <|deacon|> let me try that one to see if it works
[05:39] <JakeM> Can someone help me troubleshoot some Amarok issues?
[05:40] <Jucato> scienceboy: it might be conflicting with the current active application's Alt+P? (the default is Ctrl+Alt+P btw)
[05:40] <dudeicles> no ntfs-config
[05:40] <dudeicles> adenicio: how would I install it?
[05:40] <adenicio> dudeicles: adept maneger
[05:40] <JakeM> I've gone through and installed the restricted packages, but I still can't get Amarok to play mp3, FLAC or avi files.
[05:40] <scienceboy> jucato: even if i use it at the desktop, it doesn't work. and it does work with ctrl+alt+p, its jsut that i want to do it with only two keys
[05:40] <|deacon|> I saw the picture flash up for a split second when I opened the settings
[05:40] <adenicio> dudeicles: or sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[05:41] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: Hmmm...  So that it's just between Win+X (Play) and Win+V (stop)? :)
[05:41] <Jucato> (also easier to reach...)
[05:42] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: I'm running low on ideas.  Is it possible that you have transparency set really high or really low and some special color?
[05:42] <scienceboy> jucato: the laptop i'm on (and tryuing to configure) has a broken win key, so i can't use that
[05:42] <Jucato> oh..hm..
[05:42] <adenicio> stdin: i have no navigation bar its there but the files are white like they are corupt
[05:42] <dudeicles> that worked
[05:42] <|deacon|> I have transparency turned off in the Konsole settings
[05:43] <adenicio> stdin: i try installin back kde desktop but it didnt work
[05:43] <Jucato> scienceboy: sorry, no idea now :(
[05:43] <scienceboy> jucato: thanks anywayus
[05:43] <dudeicles> intelikey: What were you saying about writing to the ntfs drive too much?
[05:43] <|deacon|> I can see the image flash up for a second if I move in and out of full-screen mode...it's almost like the black background is overlayed on the image
[05:44] <stdin> adenicio: navigation bar?
[05:44] <adenicio> stdin: sorry navigation pannel
[05:44] <stdin> adenicio: what one?
[05:45] <dudeicles> now again what's the best dvd writing software?
[05:45] <intelikey> dudeicles the ntfs driver has been known to cause fs corruption with continued use   thus it is reccommneded that you mount ntfs as ro when using the standard ntfs driver.
[05:46] <Combatjuan> stdin: On the computer I'm trying to connect, I have installed openssh-server and vsftpd.  When I try and connect with my "client" ubuntu box, I get the error "Error encountered while talking to ssh."  (I have ssh installed on the client).  What packages do I need for sftp:// to work in konqie?
[05:46] <stdin> dudeicles: there is no "best", but K3B rules :p
[05:46] <scienceboy> what would be the fastet web browser for kubuntu?
[05:46] <adenicio> stdin: like when u open a folder to the left is the one im talkin about.it has root folder etc and where u are located
[05:46] <|deacon|> Combatjuan,  heh the weird thing is if I make a selection in the konsole screen with my mouse, the background is revealed there
[05:46] <dudeicles> will try that one
[05:46] <scienceboy> asides from lynx
[05:46] <stdin> Combatjuan: just ssh, not vsftpd
[05:47] <intelikey> dudeicles you might be able to use it many days without issue,  but i can't simply reccomend it and hope for the best.
[05:47] <Combatjuan> stdin: The ssh package provides both a daemon and the client software?
[05:47] <stdin> adenicio: try pressing F8
[05:47] <dudeicles> ok
[05:47] <Combatjuan> stdin: Both have ssh installed.
[05:47] <stdin> Combatjuan: the ssh package installs both openssh-server and client
[05:48] <intelikey> what's the "BEST" ftpd ???    :)
[05:48] <stdin> Combatjuan: try connecting in konsole, just to see if it works
[05:49] <adenicio> stdin: lol dont u mean F9?i didnt say its hidden its there but im not seing the blue files just white files that look corupt
[05:49] <rdvon_> why is this disk checker taking so long???
[05:49] <adenicio> stdin: is there a way to show u my pic i took of it on a website
[05:49] <adenicio> ?
[05:49] <rdvon_> I've been running badblocks for like 2 hours.
[05:50] <intelikey> rdvon which disk checker ?
[05:50] <intelikey> oh badblocks
[05:50] <stdin> adenicio: take a screen print and post it to http://tinyimg.us/index.php
[05:50] <rdvon_> It seems like it's looped a couple times
[05:50] <intelikey> cause it write and reads every block of the disk several times
[05:50] <rdvon_> oh..
[05:50] <intelikey> yes it loops   it makes three passes by default
[05:50] <rdvon_> and it fixes the bad blocks right? :)
[05:51] <intelikey> marks them yes
[05:51] <rdvon_> it... doesnt... fix them?
[05:51] <intelikey> they can't be fixed
[05:51] <stdin> they can't be fixed, they are bad
[05:51] <Combatjuan> stdin: Ah.  It works if I use the ip address but not the host name.  Do I need to have some kind of LAN DNS for my computers to know one another by name?
[05:51] <rdvon_> but there are workarounds, right?
[05:51] <rdvon_> :)
[05:51] <intelikey> phisically bad blocks are not repairable via software
[05:51] <adenicio> stdin: http://tinyimg.us/basic.php
[05:51] <rdvon_> yes, I know.
[05:52] <intelikey> yes they are marked as bad  and skipped/not included in the fs
[05:52] <scienceboy> is there a way to make it so that if i (special key) click something it will open one way,a nd if i jsut click it it will open another?
[05:52] <rdvon_> I meant it does something to "Fix" them.
[05:52] <adenicio> stdin: u will have to zoom to see
[05:53] <rdvon_> ok.
[05:53] <rdvon_> :)
[05:53] <stdin> Combatjuan: you *can*, but it's easier to add them to the local version of that, go to System Settings -> Network Settings -> Domain Name System (in administer mode)
[05:53] <adenicio> duckdown__: u got true?
[05:53] <rdvon_> I think it is almost finishing the third loop..
[05:53] <stdin> adenicio: I need the full url
[05:53] <Combatjuan> stdin: Thanks.
[05:53] <adenicio> stdin: http://tinyimg.us/i/jdv1188877872z.png
[05:54] <stdin> adenicio: then for some reason the icons are missing, the tabs should still work tho
[05:56] <adenicio> stdin: i tink it got install bad.i dont even see gimp.and the media is not where it sopose to be
[05:56] <intelikey> rdvon there is an old hackers trick   cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda   which writes the null char to ever speck of the disk   then running a partitioning tool and using the -c option when formatting   that will make the block testing (which the -c calls for) faster 'only one pass, and it does mark them'     but it can  on occation miss a block that is actually bad.
[05:56] <|deacon|> Combatjuan, I got it.  There was a transparency issue.  The background color was black, and was overriding my image file that I had chosen
[05:57] <Combatjuan> |deacon|: Ah.  It had to be something silly.
[05:57] <scienceboy> is there a way to make it so that if i (special key) click something it will open one way,a nd if i jsut click it it will open another?
[05:57] <|deacon|> bah... ;)  thanks for the help
[05:58] <stdin> adenicio: try reinstalling the core packages "sudo aptitude reinstall ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard kubuntu-desktop"
[05:58] <intelikey> stdin  that wont reinstall anything but the meta packages will it ?
[05:59] <adenicio> stdin: i try for the kubuntu desktop it didnt work
[05:59] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, but it will install anything they depend/recommend on incase they went missing
[05:59] <stdin> adenicio: did you use aptitude ?
[05:59] <adenicio> stdin: im going to reinstall linux because i even got prolems instaling packs
[05:59] <adenicio> stdin: no
[06:00] <stdin> adenicio: try what I said before you do a reinstall
[06:00] <Biovore> when C++ code starts looking like hebrew.. Its time for bed... night...
[06:00] <Combatjuan> scienceboy: I don't think there is a way to do that.
[06:00] <intelikey> Biovore
[06:00] <scienceboy> combatjuan: really? dang ...
[06:01] <intelikey> i think konq does that by default
[06:02] <intelikey> alt click something and see
[06:04] <intelikey> !info ntfs-3g dapper
[06:04] <ubotu> Package ntfs-3g does not exist in dapper
[06:04] <intelikey> !info fuse dapper
[06:04] <ubotu> Package fuse does not exist in dapper
[06:04] <intelikey> figures
[06:05] <stdin> intelikey: planning on upgrading to hardy when it's out?
[06:06] <adenicio> stdin: http://pastebin.com/m151057e9 i got an error to the end when i did "sudo aptitude reinstall kubuntu-desktop"
[06:06] <intelikey> stdin prolly not.  why would i ?
[06:06] <stdin> intelikey: it's the next LTS
[06:07] <intelikey> but i haven't warn out this LTS yet
[06:07] <Mr_Sonoma> lol you got 6 more months or so intelikey
[06:07] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, but you'll get some shiny new packages :p
[06:07] <intelikey> it's just over a year old  and good for 5
[06:08] <intelikey> i'll use it for 5   unless i find a linux i like
[06:08] <intelikey> :)
[06:08] <lunar-raven> !wine
[06:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:08] <adenicio> intelikey: wat is mandriva?
[06:09] <wers> why is that, when I opened a cd full of pictures on dolphin, the icons of most pictures have padlocks and I cannot view them on gwenview?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, heh, you could always go with BSD
[06:09] <intelikey> adenicio used to be a pretty good distro  then they changed the name
[06:09] <stdin> adenicio: try: sudo mkdir -p /var/run/havp/ ; sudo touch /var/run/havp/havp-DZV09j ; sudo -R chown havp /var/run/havp
[06:09] <intelikey> hitmanWilly don't tempt me...
[06:09] <adenicio> intelikey: change it to what?
[06:10] <intelikey> adenicio mandriva.    it was mandrake linux
[06:10] <andrew_> anyone know where I can get some cool games for Linux?
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:10] <stdin> !games | andrew_
[06:10] <ubotu> andrew_: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:10] <adenicio> intelikey: is that a nother linux like kubuntu,ubuntu,xubuntu,and fedora?
[06:11] <stdin> another distribution yeah
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, no, its another unix based system
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> oh, nm
[06:11] <intelikey> no it's more like    redhat/fedora     mandrake/mandriva
[06:11] <stdin> don't confuse him with bsd :p
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> rpm based ubuntu :P
[06:11] <adenicio> ??????
[06:12] <intelikey> !rpm
[06:12] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, just ignore that last bit, heh
[06:12] <adenicio> lol
[06:12] <kkathman> thats an incorrect factoid - RPM is RPM package management - they changed the name quite a while back
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> another recursive acronym
[06:13] <stdin> kkathman: request it to be changed then
[06:13] <intelikey> kkathman maybe it's an old factoid...
[06:13] <kkathman> could be :)
[06:13] <adenicio> how many dif linux are out there? i only know ubuntu family and fedora
[06:13] <intelikey> adenicio about a thousand
[06:14] <intelikey> visit http://distrowatch.org
[06:14] <intelikey> i think that's the url...  for the major "flavour of the month"
[06:14] <kkathman> wow its 1000 now??
[06:14] <andrew_> I'm usin' kubuntu, will ubuntu games work properly on it?
[06:14] <adenicio> intelikey: lol ok but how many are there that are to the top famouse?
[06:14] <kkathman> whew :)
[06:15] <intelikey> adenicio only room for one at the top...
[06:15] <Combatjuan> andrew_: Yes.  All "flavors" of Linux can run programs from all other "flavors".
[06:15] <stdin> andrew_: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same except for the UI
[06:15] <andrew_> cool... thanks guys......
[06:15] <intelikey> kkathman that was a rough estimate,  i don't know the "exact" count and i doubt anyone does.
[06:15] <Perseid> How do I tell KDE what program to open a partocular file in?
[06:16] <kkathman> lol true
[06:16] <adenicio> intelikey: ok give ma at least 5 to the top list
[06:16] <intelikey> adenicio debian gentoo slackware fedora suse ubuntu
[06:17] <intelikey> that's six  but oh well
[06:17] <stdin> Perseid: right click it, choose Open With, select the application and check the "remember association for this file type" box
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, well, that's most of the big ones
[06:17] <intelikey> adenicio mandriva knoppix ...
[06:18] <stdin> PCLinuxOS is doing quite well in the charts too
[06:18] <intelikey> there's two more playes ^
[06:18] <intelikey> PCLinuxOS
[06:18] <intelikey> yes
[06:18] <Perseid> stdin: I tried that. There is no 'remember' option.
[06:18] <intelikey> that's nine.   probably all in the top ten
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, gentoo's not, neither is slack, at least according to distrowatch
[06:19] <stdin> Perseid: it's on the bottom: http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3666/image12tj6.png
[06:19] <intelikey> hitmanWilly hmmm  flavour of the month changes to fast,  but the over all usage/support  they are there.
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, yeah, plus those are seeder distros, as in there's a lot of distros based on them
[06:20] <adenicio> stdin: what u give me" sudo mkdir -p /var/run/havp/ ; sudo touch /var/run/havp/havp-DZV09j ; sudo -R chown havp /var/run/havp didnt work
[06:20] <intelikey> hitmanWilly exactly
[06:21] <Perseid> stdin: It usually is, but in this case, .flv, there is only Run in Terminal and Don't Close...
[06:21] <adenicio> stdin: im getting to many errors i cant even install a simple pack from adep or apt-get
[06:21] <intelikey> three major seeders slackware debian fedora  not in any special order
[06:22] <intelikey> gentoo would fall to fourth in that line-up   not that many source based distros
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, yeah, but there is sabayon
[06:22] <intelikey> although it contributes to most distros..
[06:22] <hydrogen> thats not a real distro though
[06:23] <OptimusBabe> hi guys. i was wondering if you can help me. i'm having trouble playing vcds since i upgraded to feisty. everything was fine in edgy.. any ideas? appreciate any help. thanks
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, although the gentoo base on that one is pretty loose :)
[06:23] <intelikey> true dat
[06:23] <adenicio> intelikey: what is ark?
[06:23] <hydrogen> a kde-centric distro
[06:23] <Combatjuan> ark is a program for archiving, like "winzip"
[06:23] <hydrogen> its a fairly cool distro
[06:24] <stdin> Perseid: try in konqueror, settings > configure konqueror > File Associations (like http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7733/image13lk0.png )
[06:24] <intelikey> adenicio i'd say a B class distro   hasn't ever been number one and doesn't have much based on it.  although it has been widely used.
[06:25] <adenicio> intelikey: same for  ubuntu family?
[06:25] <intelikey> adenicio no *buntu is flavour of the month
[06:26] <intelikey> folks like you and me made it #1
[06:26] <adenicio> intelikey: they are diferent teams that make them right?but why fedora come with KDE desktop option?
[06:26] <Perseid> stdin: That did it. I had to add x-flv because it wasn't there at all. Thanks. :)
[06:26] <rdvon_> Has anyone tried using a wiimote under linux?
[06:26] <OptimusBabe> guys?
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> the main reason so many distros are slack based is that it's the closest thing to a vanilla linux set up out there right now
[06:27] <intelikey> adenicio kde and gnome are only desktop environments  any linux distro can have either or both...
[06:27] <adenicio> intelikey: flavor?lol will it at least reach to the top 5?
[06:27] <adenicio> intelikey: ok
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, ubuntu is actually based on debian
[06:29] <adenicio> hydrogen: i saw in a book debian was made by a french man and he is the leader in the linux race
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, although it has been moving further and further away from the regular debian setup
[06:29] <adenicio> hitmanWilly:   i saw in a book debian was made by a french man and he is the leader in the linux race
[06:30] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: is that true?
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, that's really a matter of opinion
[06:30] <hydrogen> heh
[06:30] <hydrogen> I think first
[06:30] <hydrogen> one would need a linux race
[06:30] <adenicio> ?
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> the good thing about linux is that any improvements made in one distro can usually be implemented in another
[06:31] <adenicio> hydrogen: sorry that msg wasnt for u
[06:31] <adenicio> lol
[06:31] <intelikey> ian and deborah the two from which the name "deb-ian" was contracted may have started the distro  but they neither own it nor write it...  so one might remember to look at the bigger picture on things like that.
[06:32] <adenicio> like fedora it gopin up all types of stuff that it takes so long to install
[06:32] <adenicio> :D
[06:33] <intelikey> what race are you in  ???   :)
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> pretty much all distros have their own advantages/disadvantages
[06:33] <intelikey> y the human race, of course.
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> for example, ubuntu is very user friendly, but you get a lot of bloat along with that
[06:34] <adenicio> intelikey:  hitmanWilly anyway tanks for the info i just want to know how to save my website that i add in bookmark?im going to reinstall feity 7.04
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, it doesn't save it?
[06:34] <intelikey> adenicio save your home dir.
[06:35] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: its save in koqueror.but if i reinstall linux it wont be there anymore
[06:35] <intelikey> put him on a cd or something.  then you have the backup...
[06:35] <stdin> that's why we recommend a separate /home
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, oh, ok, yeah, backup your home folder, that'll keep it
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, plus all your settings for various apps
[06:36] <intelikey> yeah,  if you have seperate disks   or even seperate partitions...   you just don't fromat the home dir
[06:36] <intelikey> else you make a backup
[06:36] <intelikey> fi
[06:36] <intelikey> :)
[06:37] <adenicio> hitmanWilly: im not keepin no setting for apps what so ever everything going
[06:37] <adenicio> boom
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> adenicio, ok, well the bookmark file is in $HOME/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
[06:38] <intelikey> find ~/ -type f -iname *bookmark*
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> its the file bookmarks.xml
[06:38] <intelikey> finds all your bookmark files
[06:39] <intelikey> email it to your self  and leave it on the server
[06:40] <stdin> intelikey only sends himself binary code
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:40] <intelikey> :)
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> XD
[06:41] <stdin> that means I can call him names and he won't know :p
[06:41] <_2> i'm base two
[06:41] <_2> don't mess with me
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:42] <_2> :)
[06:42] <stdin> (<PHONE_NUMBER>01 being 3117 in binary )
[06:42] <DaSkreech> OptimusBabe: try reinstalling libxine-extracodecs
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> ellt?
[06:43] <stdin> yep, I'm too 1337 to spell
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> roflmao
[06:44] <_2><PHONE_NUMBER>01001<PHONE_NUMBER>011
[06:45] <_2> dat's where i sit
[06:45] <stdin> heh
[06:46] <holycow> what is the kde art channel again? not #oxygen, the other one
[06:47] <stdin> dunno...
[06:47] <stdin> ask in #kde and find out
[06:47] <DaSkreech> #kde-artists
[06:47] <holycow> oh there we go
[06:47] <holycow> thank you
[06:47] <DaSkreech> and #oxygen if you like flavours of the month
[06:48] <_2> have i heard that phrase before ???
[06:48] <hydrogen> yes
[06:48] <hydrogen> its my cousin
[06:48] <holycow> DaSkreech: added to autojoin
[06:48] <Mr_Sonoma> anybody else running Gutsy and having problems with switching users?
[06:48] <holycow> thanks
[06:48] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: i just dist upgrade, i have had tons of problems
[06:48] <holycow> wait a few days and distupgrade again
[06:48] <stdin> Mr_Sonoma: #ubuntu+1 is the place to ask
[06:48] <holycow> devs are probably uploading
[06:49] <Mr_Sonoma> after i ran apt-get upgrade a few times it finally got all the packages (except for six that are being held) updated and everything smoothed out
[06:49] <Mr_Sonoma> except for the switching users thing
[06:50] <Mr_Sonoma> the 2nd user crashes on start and reverts back to the first
[06:50] <holycow> yeah just wait a few days
[06:50] <holycow> your running unstable latest and greatest
[06:50] <holycow> as you are running a developers version that will happen
[06:50] <Mr_Sonoma> yea i understand that, was just wondering if it was something that i did or if others are seeing it too
[06:50] <Mr_Sonoma> <--- been known to muck up a perfectly good ubuntu or debian install
[06:51] <holycow> as with debian, if you run development versions you haveto wait until the devs get around to upload the latest packages
[06:51] <DaSkreech> no one asked you for your 10 bits _2
[06:52] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: *nod* well seeing similar things anyway
[06:58] <Kr4t05> Yay!
[06:58] <Kr4t05> I is a winrar!
[06:59] <Kr4t05> After several hours of cursing and longing to through it all out the nearest window, I finally got my ethernet to work.
[07:05] <Evolution2> hey guys iam trying to install this xmms skin but i have this:
[07:05] <Evolution2> roy@roy-laptop:~$ cd Vortigo_final
[07:05] <Evolution2> roy@roy-laptop:~/Vortigo_final$ ./configure
[07:05] <Evolution2> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[07:05] <stdin> !paste | Evolution2
[07:05] <ubotu> Evolution2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:05] <Evolution2> thanks
[07:05] <Evolution2> my bad
[07:06] <Evolution2> any ideas why iam getting that at the config
[07:06] <dal> hey all, im playing around with ksysguard and its related kicker applet - I figured there'd be a way of getting it to spit out free space on a certain partiton in Gb/Mb/Kb but all it seems to want to do is give me a value in blocks, which doesn't seem to have any direct correlation to human-readable units of measurement - i.e. 200mb of free space is 293,310 blocks - anyhow know how i can get it to give me Gb or Mb instead? :)
[07:06] <stdin> Evolution2: why are you trying to run a ./configure script for a skin?
[07:06] <Evolution2> yeah, thats what i thought but i wasnt sure
[07:06] <Evolution2> what do i do
[07:07] <stdin> I'd guess yo just copy it to something like ~/.xmms/skins/
[07:08] <Evolution2> ok
[07:24] <rdvon_> omg!
[07:24] <rdvon_> who was here when I asked about the bad blocks thing.
[07:25] <rdvon_> well guess what.
[07:25] <rdvon_> Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found
[07:25] <rdvon_> >:O
[07:25] <rdvon_> wow.
[07:25] <rdvon_> that was the biggest waste of time.
[07:26] <rdvon_> ...
[07:27] <sumguy231> ...
[07:35] <rdvon_> do you guys know why a disk check would reformat my hard drive?
[07:35] <rdvon_> Because my hard drive is completely reformatted.
[07:35] <rdvon_> I need your help guys. -_-
[07:36] <flaccidd> it doesn't have the ability to
[07:36] <flaccidd> afaik
[07:37] <rdvon_> than what happened?
[07:37] <rdvon_> I tried booting into windows. it gave me a disk boot failure.
[07:37] <rdvon_> an I check my partitions, there all gone.
[07:37] <rdvon_> *and
[07:37] <rdvon_> *check
[07:37] <rdvon_> *checked.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> rdvon_: bad drive?
[07:38] <rdvon_> DaSkreech: it was running perfectly before I checked for bad sectors..
[07:38] <Lynoure> sounds like that... damage to partition table
[07:39] <rdvon_> Well I'm going to install kubuntu now, no since in getting pissed off at what already happened, right?
[07:39] <tzanger> good mroning...  is there something obvious I am missing in order to get the dictionary/spell check working with open-office?  I'm using feisty with the standard packages... OO claims it has dictionaries but I can spell anything any old way and it won't complain, even with a manual spell check
[07:42] <DaSkreech> I remember having that problem
[07:42] <DaSkreech> I think I did solve it but that was shortly before i got rid of OO.o :-(
[07:43] <DaSkreech> http://www.thelinuxvault.net/wiki/Kubuntu
[07:43] <hayami> hi i have a problem, i'm using compiz fusion, but with the window decorator GTK, it gaves me a border like light purple, i wanna change it but i don't know how what should i do?
[07:43] <hayami> can anyone help me please :(
[07:44] <stdin> hayami: try in #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <Lynoure> hayami: GTK? probably better on #ubuntu than on #kubuntu
[07:45] <hayami> is that from ubuntu?
[07:45] <hayami> i'm using kubuntu xD why i have that installed xD
[07:45] <_2> *buntu is *buntu is *buntu
[07:46] <Lynoure> _2: I was pretty sure GTK themes were Gnome stuff
[07:46] <Lynoure> still am, even.
[07:47] <hayami> wow weird
[07:47] <_2> Lynoure yes gnome uses gtk  and ?
[07:47] <hayami> then what is the theme manager in kde?
[07:48] <_2> Lynoure last i checked !beryl wasn't officially supported in #kubuntu or #ubuntu
[07:48] <Jucato> hayami: since you are using compiz with the default (GTK/GNOME) window decoration, KWin (KDE's window manager) window decorations won't affect compiz's appearance
[07:49] <Lynoure> _2: !beryl was not supported? only beryl was? that sounds wrong...
[07:49] <Lynoure> _2: meaning, I don't understand your notation
[07:49] <_2> !beryl
[07:49] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:49] <Jucato> _2: that was before compiz moved to main, and before beryl and compiz re-merged
[07:50] <_2> Jucato then the bot is behind too
[07:50] <hayami> weird i choose in the compiz options
[07:50] <hayami> window manager kwin
[07:50] <hayami> but now i can't use the cube or things like that xD
[07:50] <Jucato> hayami: that means you're not running compiz. you can only use one window manager at a time
[07:51] <hayami> =o so how do i run compiz then? =o
[07:51] <Jucato> both compiz and kwin are window managers. if you use kwin, you're not using compiz, meaning no effects
[07:51] <Jucato> dunno. never used it hehehe
[07:53] <hayami> thanks i guess xD
[07:53] <lordofthepigs> Hello
[07:53] <lordofthepigs> where can I define new environment variables
[07:53] <Jucato> try asking in #ubuntu-effects for that hayami
[07:53] <lordofthepigs> I need to add a few environment variable
[07:54] <hayami> thanks jucato
[07:54] <lordofthepigs> and append a directory to the path
[07:54] <Jucato> lordofthepigs: usually .bashrc but I'm not exactly sure what's the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile
[07:54] <hayami> i wierdly can see the other window i wanted xD
[07:54] <Jucato> and those are per-user settings only
[07:54] <Jucato> ok..
[07:55] <zhaobaoyu> hiAny person will help me on "how to open a pdf doc in text mode" ?
[07:55] <_2> ERROR [09/04/2007 05:54:39]  > Could not set video mode: No video mode large enough for 1024x768
[07:55] <_2> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[07:55] <zhaobaoyu> hiAny person will help me on "how to open a pdf doc in text mode" ?
[07:55] <Jucato> !patience | zhaobaoyu
[07:55] <Jucato> hm.. bot's down?
[07:56] <_2> stupid code monkeys set static sizes  and make things to small to see....
[07:56] <ubotu> zhaobaoyu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:56] <Jucato> zhaobaoyu: you can do that a bit in kword... but I'm not sure it's 100% reliable. there might be PDF editors out there...
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ^A -> Del
[07:56] <zhaobaoyu> thanks you jucato and ubotu
[07:57] <Jucato> !thanks | zhaobaoyu
[07:57] <ubotu> zhaobaoyu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:57] <Jucato> DaSkreech: huh?
[07:57] <zhaobaoyu> ....ah... jucato is bot too  ?
[07:57] <Jucato> try to guess.. :)
[07:58] <Jucato> and if you guessed wrong...
[07:58] <_2> zhaobaoyu only on the second tuesday of each week
[07:58] <Jucato> *buzzing sound* wrong answer! bye now! :P
[07:58] <zhaobaoyu> wondering...
[07:58] <stdin> Jucato is a bot, but he has super cow powers
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Jucato: take care of your e-mail problem
[07:58] <Jucato> DaSkreech: aaah... you silly
[07:59] <lordofthepigs> Do I have to login again for the changes to .bash_profile to be applied
[07:59] <zhaobaoyu> so many humor guys
[07:59] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I just went through the excruciating process of waiting for gutsy's kdepim to get fixed, downloading my mail again and again, filtering through and putting them in the correct folders, now you want me to delete them all!?!?
[07:59] <_2> lordofthepigs no   . ~/.bash_profile   will load them
[07:59] <Jucato> lordofthepigs: I think so... might want to ask the guys over at ##bash for more info
[07:59] <Jucato> <--- bash idiot
[08:00] <DaSkreech> lordofthepigs: yes
[08:00] <DaSkreech> hi AmyRose
[08:00] <_2> seems no one is listening
[08:01] <intelikey> lordofthepigs no   . ~/.bash_profile   will load them
[08:01] <AmyRose> hi DaSkreech
[08:01] <Jucato> intelikey: that's what you get for having so many aliases...
[08:01] <Jucato> hi AmyRose (in here too)
[08:01] <intelikey> maybe my nick was too short to take seriously
[08:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey:  :-)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> intelikey: it had binary chars!
[08:01] <intelikey> yeah  :)
[08:05] <albertmk> good compiler for java in Kubuntu?
[08:06] <Jucato> gcj? (part of GCC)
[08:06] <stdin> or just install the sun jdk
[08:07] <level1> hi, how does ubuntu set the default keymap?  the kde keymap thing doesn't work well for me and X somehow magically forgot my keymap
[08:09] <lusr> hi
[08:09] <hengha`> is there anyway to auto mount a usb disk in kubuntu 7.04 ? it works fine in my fc5
[08:09] <lusr> how do I upgrade to 7?
[08:09] <lusr> I am on 6
[08:09] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[08:09] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:09] <lusr> sheesh... I thought the damn CD was 7
[08:09] <albertmk> *about to learn Java
[08:09] <DaSkreech> !java
[08:09] <albertmk> ops hehe
[08:09] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:10] <albertmk> damn
[08:10] <albertmk> Im installing it by apt-get
[08:10] <albertmk> Im running Kubuntu 7.04
[08:10] <DaSkreech> albertmk: That's what it's saying :)
[08:11] <albertmk> its still downloading it
[08:11] <albertmk> should I stop it ?
[08:12] <runlevelten> If you want to stop it installing, then yes you should.
[08:12] <runlevelten> However, if you meant to get it doing stuff, no.
[08:13] <albertmk> but I am using apt, not Adept. Am I wrong?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> albertmk: you are on the command line?
[08:13] <albertmk> both get from sourcelist?
[08:13] <stdin> albertmk: read it again, apt-get is fine
[08:13] <Jucato> nothing wrong...
[08:13] <DaSkreech> albertmk: No use apt
[08:13] <albertmk> oh :)
[08:13] <runlevelten> apt is just peachy.
[08:13] <albertmk> though both downloaded it from soucelist
[08:13] <DaSkreech> http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/08/31/sco-chief-were-not-dead
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[08:14] <DaSkreech> The stock went up 44 percent
[08:14] <runlevelten> rofl.
[08:14] <runlevelten> !sco
[08:14] <ubotu> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!!!!!
[08:14] <DaSkreech> ha ha ha ha
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind!!!!
[08:14] <Jucato> Hawkwind!!!!!!!!
[08:14] <lusr> !christ
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about christ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <lusr> !jesus
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jesus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:15] <Hawkwind> Jucato!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:15] <DaSkreech> !botabuse > lusr
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: where the heck where you?
[08:15] <lusr> !ok > DaSkreech
[08:15] <stdin> stop that ^
[08:15] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Been at home and at work
[08:16] <DaSkreech> I was just mourning the death of ebuntu :)
[08:16] <DaSkreech> I was starting to think there was a Mysterious Force killing off anyone interested in it
[08:17] <lusr> can I abuse and rape the bot in private?
[08:17] <lusr> how do I do that?
[08:17] <lusr> I mean in order to no be annoying here
[08:17] <DaSkreech> lusr: type /msg ubotu hello
[08:17] <lusr> flooding and all
[08:17] <Jucato> lusr: don't even dare
[08:17] <Jucato> !guidelines | lusr
[08:17] <ubotu> lusr: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Jucato: he shouldn't talk to the bot in private?
[08:18] <lusr> ok got it
[08:18] <lusr> I think that's better
[08:19] <lusr> because ONE I am not flooding here SECOND what I want to check isn't scrolled all the way up by all messages
[08:19] <lusr> is 500MHz ok for Kubuntu?
[08:20] <Jucato> AmyRose: your testimonial needed ^^^
[08:20] <DaSkreech> lusr: In theory yes
[08:20] <DaSkreech>  don't expect it to be a spring chicken
[08:21] <lusr> LMAO@spring chicken
[08:21] <lusr> DaSkreech: I have it with Xubuntu now, but I am thinking about using Fluxbuntu
[08:22] <lusr> by the way is there such a channel?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> #fluxbuntu
[08:22] <DaSkreech> they are a little off the wall though
[08:22] <DaSkreech> last time I was talking to them they were going to rewrite everything to work better on the PS3
[08:23] <lusr> kewl!
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Which would actually garner them a huge amount of press but ...
[08:23] <lusr> pfff... how retarded PS3 is powerful enough to run EVEN Vi$ta
[08:24] <lusr> I'd rather be more concerned of re-writing fluxbuntu to run on a router
[08:25] <holycow> well that depends
[08:25] <holycow> ps3 i don't think has a very good graphics chip nor a lot of ram
[08:25] <holycow> all of the work is supposed to be done on the cel
[08:25] <holycow> so you kinda gotta code up stuff for that
[08:25] <DaSkreech> and a crap ass main chip if you are not using the SPU
[08:25] <holycow> yup
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Though Half Life 2 apparently isn't touching the SPUs at all
[08:26] <holycow> i would imagine the cel processor simply changes the way stuff is done, i really don't know anything to be able to say more than that
[08:27] <holycow> if the cel
[08:27] <holycow> if the cels are doing most of the workload and they have properly coded for that, one would imagine that a ps4 can be just a ps3 with a ginormous number of more cels
[08:27] <DaSkreech> It's like having a 8 core proc
[08:27] <holycow> just a guess
[08:28] <lusr> wasn't there be a company supposed to sell cell pc
[08:28] <lusr> pc's
[08:28] <lusr> ?
[08:28] <DaSkreech> 7 of which are really dumb but do anything you tell them to do Amazingly fast
[08:28] <DaSkreech> IBM
[08:28] <DaSkreech> they do
[08:29] <DaSkreech> but it's way cheaper to just buy PS3s :)
[08:29] <holycow> yeah ibm servers of some kind, haven't seen them anywhere tho
[08:29] <holycow> probabaly special purpose
[08:30] <lusr> I mean for regular users
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Most stuff cell related is special use
[08:30] <lusr> you know home cell PC's
[08:30] <lusr> I recall reading something about it
[08:31] <lusr> would be kewl
[08:31] <holycow> heh
[08:31] <Jucato> !offtopic
[08:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:31] <holycow> thats gonna behard to peel off
[08:31] <Jucato> oh bah, stdin was there
[08:31] <stdin> Jucato: gotta spice it up every now and then :p
[08:32] <DaSkreech> lusr: head to #fluxbuntu
[08:32] <DaSkreech> let me know if anyone is awake
[08:32] <lusr> how do I check what Version of *ubuntu I have? uname -a doesn't tell me
[08:33] <stdin> !version
[08:33] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:33] <DaSkreech> cat /etc/issue
[08:33] <DaSkreech> damn I always forget that way
[08:33] <lusr> oh man!!
[08:33] <lusr> I've gotta first to to 6.10 then 7!!
[08:34] <lusr> jesus christ!!
[08:34] <Jucato> ...
[08:34] <stdin> there is no "7", there is a 7.04 (and soon a 7.10)
[08:35] <lusr> 7.10 hot!!
[08:37] <intelikey> techneclly there is no 7.10 yet
[08:37] <lusr> what's new in 7.10?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> !gutsy
[08:37] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[08:37] <Jucato> s/technically/officially/
[08:38] <intelikey> don't sed me.
[08:38] <Jucato> :P
[08:38] <intelikey> techneclly there is no 7.10 yet   this is only 7.9 so it's impossable for 7.10 to be out...
[08:39] <intelikey> it is yeah.month you know
[08:39] <stdin> hence the "(and soon a 7.10)" as "soon" != "now"
[08:40] <intelikey> righto
[08:40] <lusr> is gnash in a workable shape?
[08:40] <stdin> it works for some things, so yeah
[08:40] <lusr> *usable
[08:40] <lusr> stdin: how about youtube?
[08:40] <stdin> I doubt it
[08:41] <lusr> if it doesn't work with youtube is basically worthless
[08:41] <stdin> it can only do up to flash 7 IIRC
[08:43] <lunang> salut  tous
[08:49] <osh_> Anyone know why vmware-server isn't in the repos? vmware-player is, but not server. Both are "free" as far as I know.
[08:51] <stdin> osh_: because the licence the server is under doesn't allow redistribution (so it can't be put in the repos)
[08:51] <karthikp> Question: Is there anyway of restarting kmix?
[08:51] <karthikp> I plug in my webcam/mic and it doesn't detect it unless I log out and log back in or do a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
[08:52] <karthikp> It would be nice if I could somehow restart just kmix.
[08:52] <Crosswing> hello
[08:52] <stdin> karthikp: right click kmix and choose quit, then press alt-f2 and put in kmix
[08:53] <Crosswing> I am running Kubuntu 7.04 and I am using GAIM as IM client for one of my yahoo accounts. Any ideas why sound doesn't work? :(
[08:53] <osh_> stdin: Really? That's bad. So it's off to howtoforge or similar and do a "non-removable" install then. *sigh*
[08:53] <osh_> stdin: Thanks for your answer though.
[08:53] <stdin> osh_:  there are install instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[08:53] <karthikp> Does gaim have a working voice chat?
[08:53] <osh_> stdin: Brilliant. Thanks again.
[08:53] <stdin> :)
[08:54] <karthikp> Didn't know it had...
[08:55] <jussi01> hmmm, anyone know where to set kmail to check the mail on a regular baisis? ie. every 10 mins or so?
[08:55] <karthikp> Yay! stdin: You solved it!
[08:55] <karthikp> Killing kmix doesn't kill sound.
[08:55] <Jucato> jussi01: Settings -> COnfigure KMail -> Accounts -> Sending tab -> MOdify -> Enable interval fetching
[08:56] <karthikp> Which is nice.
[08:56] <Jucato> er.. interval mail checking I mean
[08:56] <Jucato> karthikp: kmix is just the mixer/volume control... :)
[08:57] <karthikp> @Jucato: Learning something new everyday :)
[08:57] <jussi01> Jucato: thanks, got it sorted (but its not the sending tab ;) )
[08:57] <jussi01> :)
[08:57] <Jucato> er sorry
[08:58] <Jucato> I was typing really fast and from memory
[08:58] <Jucato> yeah Receiving...
[08:58] <jussi01> hehe
[08:58] <karthikp> Still, anyway to make it remember to have the mic turned all the way up?
[08:58] <jussi01> e
[08:58] <karthikp> By default, kmix always starts with no mic volume
[08:58] <Jucato> too hot today :)
[09:01] <Jucato> how are you able to type then? O.o
[09:02] <karthikp> *karthikp wakes jussi01 up. Stay sharp, men! (and women!)
[09:03] <jussi01> lol
[09:06] <kraut> moin
[09:19] <osh_> stdin: Your link was better than expected. vmware-server is packaged for kubuntu and installation-instructions were right there.
[09:20] <osh_> This is wonderful. now I can keep my beloved kubuntu while still running Office2007 and MS-Project.
[09:20] <osh_> =)
[09:20] <stdin> osh_: where there's a will, there's an ubuntu way :p
[09:23] <hayami> hi, how do i upgrade to kde4?
[09:24] <flaccidd> !kde4
[09:24] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.
[09:25] <stdin> hayami: also read the topic...
[09:25] <Jucato> hayami: unless you're a developer or you want to help in development by testing and reporting and fixing bugs... might want to wait until final release or at least until RC
[09:25] <hayami> thanks
[09:25] <Jucato> other than that, "use at your own risk" :)
[09:25] <hayami> yeah i guess that's a good point xD
[09:25] <Jucato> or enjoyment...
[09:25] <stdin> it's more "use at your own.... damn! it crashed"
[09:26] <Jucato> or.. "use at... what the?! what happened?!?!"
[09:26] <hayami> hahaha