[22:37] <funkyHat> fsaintjacques: erk. if that's not too much trouble it might be the simplest solution. We can probably get it working if you want to keep trying though
[22:37] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - synaptic shows it as on my machine but tis not working. I have dealt with this before where the package was here but not installed. Is there a command to verify that it is installed?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> Narya: ok np
[22:37] <joaopinto> please attach your "who -r" output and the "initctl list" output also
[22:38] <RnFstRuckHrd> !libdvdcss
[22:38] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, you can: sudo start cron, but is just working around your problem, not a real fix
[22:38] <Shapeshifter> joaopinto: nah. bugs get closed and moved around all the time in ubuntu. there's too many so many devs don't care.
[22:38] <Jowi> RnFstRuckHrd, apt-cache policy packagename
[22:38] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: only to tell if it is running or not
[22:38] <p1und3r> acicula_ yeah was no prob until 10.04 shame, oh well im gunna try 173 and see how i do thanks for the tip
[22:38] <Shapeshifter> joaopinto: yeah I know.
[22:38] <acicula_> but it looks that both the 173.x and 180.x should support the 9500
[22:38] <harbameerp> hello everyone
[22:38] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - what is that one? I will give it a shot
[22:38] <fsaintjacques> funkyHat: well, dpkg failing to run scripts associated with package in a dist-upgrade will probably results in a messed up system
[22:38] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: go to term type top
[22:39] <RnFstRuckHrd> Jowi - good you clearify that for me please?
[22:39] <p1und3r> acicula_ how do i install the driver for ubuntu, thats the problem
[22:39] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, that is true in part, boot related bugs are usually worked, unless the reporter does not provide enough info
[22:39] <nagchampa> where do you submit bugs for community supported packages?
[22:39] <p1und3r> acicula_ this one works the best yet, it's just the changes don't stick on reboot
[22:39] <nagchampa> (as in, those not supported by canonical)
[22:39] <harbameerp> does anybody have a idea if it's possible to control the LED on the lid of a thinkpad SL500 (the red glowing dot on the i) ???
[22:39] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi -top (done)
[22:39] <sebsebseb> p1und3r: what's your issue?
[22:39] <zelhar> I use Kubuntu but also have ubuntu installed and I want to make gnome-power-manager to be the default power manager for kde is it possible ?
[22:39] <TBotNik> All, Converting from ACT v6.0 to VTiger on U-Box and need instructions on ACT data extract.  Know it is clipper and I do not know clipper.
[22:39] <sebsebseb> p1und3r: boot up issue or?
[22:39] <acicula_> p1und3r, uninstall the nvidia binary package you fetched, and enable the driver via Hardware Drivers
[22:39] <konner> Hey
[22:39] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: do you see it running?
[22:39] <Jowi> RnFstRuckHrd, "apt-cache policy chromium" will tell you if it is installed and what the install candidate is
[22:40] <p1und3r> yes i can use the newest driver only while i just installed the binary and restarted gdm, when i reboot it won't work sebsebseb
[22:40] <p1und3r> thats the prob
[22:40] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - no, I do not see it. But synaptic is showing it as installed
[22:40] <Alan> So, I've upgraded to Lucid, but i'm having problems with my wacom tablet - basically, my buttons are acting like buttons rather than modifiers.  In Karmic, holding down the button meant that when i tapped with pen i would get a right-click, now pressing the button makes a right-click happen.  Does anybody know how i can get the old behaviour back?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> p1und3r: oh right not a plymouth boot up issue then
[22:40] <p1und3r> i'm gunna do what acicula_ suggests if i can no longer use the newest drivers
[22:40] <Wulfy> heya peeps running 32bit 10.04 now my cpu supports 64 you reckon its worth the effort to switch and redo for 64bit?
[22:40] <funkyHat> fsaintjacques: did you find this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/mountall/+bug/559582
[22:40] <acicula_> p1und3r, maybe you need to load the kernelmodule on boot
[22:41] <p1und3r> acicula_ how would i do that
[22:41] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: what do you need it for? If you don't want it you can completely remove it
[22:41] <acicula_> !nvidia
[22:41] <harbameerp> does anybody have a idea if it's possible to control the LED on the lid of a think-pad SL500 (the red glowing dot on the i) ???
[22:41] <p1und3r> thanks
[22:41] <RnFstRuckHrd> I do want it - cannot play DVDs w/out as I am told
[22:42] <konner> So i'm wanting to make things more simple for me. I'm used to Window$ and I'm wondering how I change the "menu" icon. I got rid of the top panel and just have a bottom panel, and just put a menu icon and such. I'm wondering how I can change the icon from the ubuntu logo to a bigger icon so it will be easier to press.
[22:42] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: try to remove and reinstall
[22:42] <andypea> Does using etckeeper introduce any security risks. For example by caching any private keys?
[22:42] <Wulfy> heya peeps running 32bit 10.04 now my cpu supports 64 you reckon its worth the effort to switch and redo for 64bit?
[22:42] <konner> I have knowledge in using linux i just like using it that way
[22:42] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: that will verify it is there
[22:42] <mot> Frustration par excellence.
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Wulfy: dpeends
[22:42] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - k, I'ill give that another shot - standby
[22:42] <acicula_> p1und3r, $ sudo gedit /etc/modules and add a line containing nvidia
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Wulfy:  to some extent maybe on your RAM, but mainly what you want to do on a computer
[22:42] <Shapeshifter> joaopinto: well what do you know, someone already filed the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/540637
[22:43] <Shapeshifter> over a month ago btw
[22:43] <Wulfy> sebsebseb, 4gb ram would like to do some gaming/videos
[22:43] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: what kind of dvd are you trying to use?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Wulfy: videos ?
[22:43] <acicula_> p1und3r, if you ever want to switch again remember to remove that
[22:43] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - just one from my shelf (Bad Boys II)
[22:43] <Wulfy> sebsebseb, aye editing (home stuff tbh
[22:43] <p1und3r> acicula_ got it, im gunna test it out now
[22:44] <destroth> What would be the command to restore default sorces list? I keep getting these failed to apply package crap from dkp.
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Wulfy: ok, and what gaming?
[22:44] <delac> Jowi: FYI: at least got what I wanted. I was able to remove those options from everywhere by disabling suspend from BIOS and disabling hibernate by setting my swap less than my ram. Since the Indicator Applet did respond to that, I suspect that there might be some setting somewhere, that would have this same effect. But where...
[22:44] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd:do you get an error?
[22:44] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, not really, that bug report is specific to nfs
[22:44] <mouse> I upgraded to 10.04 and during upgrade it asked me where to install grub.  I screwed up and set it to sda and sda1.  Now windows on sda1 won't boot.  Can someone help?
[22:44] <RnFstRuckHrd> No - just does not play
[22:44] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: does it mount?
[22:44] <RnFstRuckHrd> but neitehr do the last 10 DVDs I tried
[22:44] <Wulfy> sebsebseb, wow / aa 3 and internal webserver
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Wulfy: what's aa 3?
[22:45] <RnFstRuckHrd> I have not tried mounting it... :-s  ?
[22:45] <sebsebseb> mouse: ok
[22:45] <Shapeshifter> joaopinto: well maybe the dude hasn't noticed that cron isn't starting either
[22:45] <Wulfy> sebsebseb,  americas army
[22:45] <nagchampa> never mind, found it myself...
[22:45] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: do they show up on your desktop?
[22:45] <sebsebseb> mouse: yeah I got that yesterday evening when upgarding as well, never seen this before,  but I knew where to install it, so I was ok :)
[22:45] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, your problem seems to affect multiple services, it may be related to that bug report, but is not properly identified
[22:45] <sebsebseb> Wulfy: I think you can Wine that maybe not though
[22:45] <Shapeshifter> joaopinto: and btw this is exactly the attitude so many people on launchpad have. "this is problem is not part of our application" -> invalid/wontfix
[22:45] <Wulfy> sebsebseb, aye that or i think theres a ntive support for it as well
[22:45] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, that is why the bug didn't got fixed, does not contain sufficient information :)
[22:45] <RnFstRuckHrd> no, but nothing ever does. It does show up in file manager and I can explore the contents (is that mounting)
[22:45] <sebsebseb> mouse: you should have put it on the first option probably,  install to the acstaul hard disk MBR (Mater Boot Record)  not a partition
[22:45] <RnFstRuckHrd> ?
[22:45] <mot> Im trying to convert my whole business comunity to linux ubuntu. I need help with my one problem. Its got to do with thunderbird...where and how do I get help....
[22:46] <Jowi> delac, yeah that's an idea. Since your problem I got annoyed at those suspend buttons my self so I replaced it with the User Switcher applet which doesn't include them :)
[22:46] <Shapeshifter> joaopinto: screw that kind of bug handling.
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Wulfy: yeah I guess go for 64bit,  it wont do any harm
[22:46] <woopa> delemi well it seems like i made it... Sorta. I draged som songs over to the mobile device icon i rythmbox, and it moved them to the iPhone.
[22:46] <jpds> mot: Here's fine.
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Wulfy: also good idea to check your ISO before burning to CD and installing from it by the way#
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | Wulfy
[22:46] <Wulfy> sebsebseb, indeed ive already trashed my system once with a bad iso
[22:46] <dhikr> o
[22:46] <woopa> delemi - but i dont know if it worked.
[22:46] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - no, but nothing ever does. It does show up in file manager and I can explore the contents (is that mounting)?
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Wulfy: and you can do a sha1sum and sha2sum or whatever it is,  as well as an md5sum if you really want
[22:47] <dhikr> o o
[22:47] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, do you have the time/interest to fix it ? If you have the will/time to keep working on the bug I will try to contact the persons which can fix it, if you don't want to there is nothing we can do
[22:47] <sebsebseb> dhikr: yes?
[22:47] <Wulfy> sebsebseb,  indeed
[22:47] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: another user had the problem and did the following A bit hit and miss on my part really. I made sure to install medibuntu repositories, restricted extras, libdvdcss2 and w32codecs.
[22:47] <mouse> sebsebseb, Yeah I know where to install it now.  I'm mostly experienced with the puppy linux grub and it seemed the most sensable to set it to sda1 since that was the one flagged to boot from.  How do I fix this though?
[22:47] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, your comment is true, I am trying to fight that, I have been reopening some bugs on those circumstances which got fixed later ;)
[22:48] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - I will check all those and make sure they are installed waitone
[22:48] <sebsebseb> mouse: so on your Windows partiton is  Grub?
[22:48] <Guest72040> Lucid lynx is very slow on boot ups. how does i solve this?
[22:48] <red> I meddled around a long while trying to troubleshoot my 20-30 fps Compiz and starting compiz with "compiz --loose-binding" fixed this for me. Running happy 300-400 fps now with no flickering at all -- BUT! Where does Lucid Lynx start compiz? I'd like this to be default on startup, rather than having to manually relaunhc compiz after each boot? Any help appreciated! :)
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: it's rather fast and for me, when Plymouth works
[22:48] <delemi> woopa: I don't have an iphone to go any further.
[22:48] <clgl> dam this channel gets busy lol
[22:48] <fsaintjacques> funkyHat: I commented the swap in fstab and it fixed the call to mountall
[22:48] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, but I would recommend to file a new report, because you have more data, and we are not 100% that there are failed services on this particular bug already reported
[22:48] <mouse> sebsebseb, sda1 and mbr
[22:48] <sebsebseb> mouse: Ok got a Windows CD?
[22:48] <red> Guest72040: it speeds up after few boots, atleast for me it did.
[22:48] <Guest72040> Sebseb. what is that?
[22:48] <delemi> woopa: you will just have to check the devices
[22:48] <joaopinto> I would leave a comment on the old bug to confirm if that "who -r" is broken
[22:48] <fsaintjacques> funkyHat: right now, apt-get is running with errors from time to time.
[22:48] <red> about 20 seconds from grub to desktop
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: the new boot up, well new for Ubuntu, not for Fedora or Mandriva
[22:49] <sebsebseb> !plymouth | Guest72040
[22:49] <sebsebseb> oh no factoid, ah well
[22:49] <lost__> hi all, i have just installed 10.04 here but how to minimizing a window now?
[22:49] <mouse> sebsebseb, The cd specific for my windows version or just any windows cd?
[22:49] <Shapeshifter> joaopinto: I don't really have the time, no. That's why I installed ubuntu on this box and not archlinux.
[22:49] <Guest72040> red thank you. My desktop the X.window sytem i asume is very slow after login.
[22:49] <sebsebseb> mouse: yes for your Windows install
[22:49] <red> oh :/
[22:49] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[22:49] <delemi> woopa: you will just have to check the devices
[22:49] <funkyHat> fsaintjacques: packages that don't install properly will be marked by dpkg as such, I don't think you'll end up with a messed up system as long as dpkg says it's ok
[22:49] <dhikr> sebsebseb sorry friend i am french and i have a problem for conect to "ubuntu-fr" : <uBOTu-fr>  dhikr: thank you to read the topic, you must be registered and identified (check your email) to join the channel # ubuntu-fr ......................... i do that but impossible to conect
[22:49] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, ok :|
[22:49] <mouse> sebsebseb, I should.
[22:49] <funkyHat> fsaintjacques: more of the same kind of errors?
[22:49] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: I use VLC as well
[22:50] <red> I meddled around a long while trying to troubleshoot my 20-30 fps Compiz and starting compiz with "compiz --loose-binding" fixed this for me. Running happy 300-400 fps now with no flickering at all -- BUT! Where does Lucid Lynx start compiz? I'd like this to be default on startup, rather than having to manually relaunch compiz after each boot? Any help appreciated! :)
[22:50] <sebsebseb> dhikr: ok no problem
[22:50] <anom01y> well I've installed xubuntu 9.10 again everything is back up and running.   I keep forgetting the golden rule: if it ain't broke don't fix it.
[22:50] <Guest72040> !plymouth
[22:50] <adac> I have no sound anymore after upgrading to lucid. Any ideas?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> dhikr: altough I would have thought they would have let  unregisterd users in
[22:50] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, can you pastebin your "who -r"  I will attach it to the bug report?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> !register | dhikr
[22:50] <anom01y> I should always wait as long as possible
[22:50] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - hrmmm still not working in either Dragon Player or VLC
[22:50] <mot> Im sitting with a export file from thunderbird called "Inbox" which needs to be imported into thunderbird again on the new distribution of ubuntu. How???????
[22:50] <harbameerp> does anybody have a idea if it's possible to control the LED on the lid of a think-pad SL500 (the red glowing dot on the i) ???
[22:50] <Shapeshifter> joaopinto: as I said, who -r doesn't give any output
[22:50] <M0DCM_Dave> Are there any issues with Nvidia cards?
[22:50] <lost__> ayone can help me
[22:50] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: reboot
[22:50] <dhikr> sorry i go use the translator
[22:50] <Guest72040> sebseb were do i find this plymouth thing?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: you don't
[22:50] <hedin__> i just found out that ubuntu doesn't ship webmin anymore... is there a decent alternative to it, in apt?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: it's there by default
[22:51] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - standby
[22:51] <konner> So i'm wanting to make things more simple for me. I'm used to Window$ and I'm wondering how I change the "menu" icon. I got rid of the top panel and just have a bottom panel, and just put a menu icon and such. I'm wondering how I can change the icon from the ubuntu logo to a bigger icon so it will be easier to press.
[22:51] <fsaintjacques> funkyHat: I'm also getting library loading error to libnih.so
[22:51] <funkyHat> fsaintjacques: running « apt-get -f install » might help too
[22:51] <Guest72040> sebseb so i just have to wait until it all sorts it self out?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> konner: I guess change the theme, and remove the panel
[22:51] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: clean install or upgrade?
[22:51] <joaopinto> Shapeshifter, was it a regular livecd desktop install ?
[22:51] <fsaintjacques> funkyHat: I'll let the dist-upgrade finish first
[22:51] <dhikr> sebsebseb I can tell you about my problem?
[22:51] <mouse> sebsebseb, What should I do with it?
[22:51] <konner> sebsebseb What would be the best way to change the theme?
[22:52] <clock> OpenJoke
[22:52] <_pg_> can ubuntu bsod?
[22:52] <Guest72040> Seb clean install. My second, first was a crash. same disk though.
[22:52] <konner> I usually keep it the way it is so.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> dhikr: I think you need to register on Freenode to join #ubuntu-fr for some odd reason
[22:52] <konner> never messed with themes
[22:52] <ritimbaks> hi all. i just installed lucid but my ATI card was not install automaticly.  what should i do ?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> konner: so do I untill recnetly
[22:52] <_pg_> can ubuntu produce a bsod?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> konner: so yeah for example i'll install the old brown look Human theme into 10.04 as well :)
[22:52] <sebsebseb> _pg_: no
[22:52] <Twitch> @_pg_
[22:52] <anom01y> what is bsod ?
[22:52] <Guest72040> Sebseb clean install. My second, first was a crash. same disk though.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> _pg_: the kernel can crash though, but that's rather unlikely
[22:53] <_pg_> sebsebseb: is it blue if it does?
[22:53] <joseasdfa> hi
[22:53] <sebsebseb> anom01y: Blue Screen Of Death  what happens to Windows when something is rather messed up with it indeed
[22:53] <anom01y> ahh
[22:53] <joseasdfa> what are you dong?
[22:53] <mot> A simple import problem is actually stopping the idea of "Ubuntu" from getting across.  Straight up, no modifications.
[22:53] <Twitch> linux newbie here. could someone explain to me in human words what the kernel is, exactly? i know it's sort of like... the "underlying" OS, kinda, but...
[22:53] <sebsebseb> anom01y: or at least make it so people can't just use it, untill they have re booted
[22:54] <Shapeshifter> Twitch: it gives applications amounts of ram, amounts of cpu time, and gives them all kinds of other access to the hardware. mostly.
[22:54] <Guest72040> SEBSEB does it matter if else clean install?
[22:54] <_pg_> are kernel panics blue in ubuntu?
[22:54] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - still nothing
[22:54] <sebsebseb> _pg_: no
[22:54] <mouse> Twitch, it's basically a very elaborate driver
[22:54] <red> I meddled around a long while trying to troubleshoot my 20-30 fps Compiz and starting compiz with "compiz --loose-binding" fixed this for me. Running happy 300-400 fps now with no flickering at all -- BUT! Where does Lucid Lynx start compiz? I'd like this to be default on startup, rather than having to manually relaunch compiz after each boot? Any help appreciated! :)
[22:54] <_pg_> sebsebseb: thanks
[22:54] <Shapeshifter> Twitch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computing%29
[22:54] <sebsebseb> _pg_: not sure, but I think it's just some error message or something,  never had one :)
[22:54] <Twitch> ah. alright. thanks, guys. haha. that makes more sense.
[22:54] <solovoy> Twitch, the kernel is the conection between the hardware and the software
[22:54] <_pg_> sebsebseb: me neither
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: was this an upgrade from 9.10 yes it was?
[22:55] <acicula_> _pg_, leds blink
[22:55] <Shapeshifter> solovoy: nah. the kernel itself is already software. your definition of software is flawed.
[22:55] <ritimbaks> hi all. i just installed lucid but my ATI card was not install automaticly.  what should i do ?
[22:55] <konner> Also, the new little bar that has my user name on it that lets me change my status on facebook and all, how do i change it so it says i'm online. Available and all the other options are grayed out.
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: was 9.10 a clean install?
[22:55] <_pg_> ritimbaks: !drivers
[22:55] <mot> Maybe I can ask Jesus for some help, seeing that he just joined.
[22:55] <_pg_> !driver
[22:55] <_pg_> dammit
[22:56] <TheOracle>  /wii sudobash
[22:56] <delemi> twitch: http://e-articles.info/e/a/title/What-Is-the-Kernel/
[22:56] <Guest72040> sebseb no it wasnt. New machine, new harddrive new motherboard. New operatingsystem clean install.
[22:56] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: How much RAM? Which card?
[22:56] <mouse> I updated to the latest headers and my audio stopped working.  How do I fix this?
[22:56] <_pg_> is there a ! for install proprietary drivers?
[22:56] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: does it recognize a dvd data disk
[22:56] <acicula_> !binary
[22:56] <sebsebseb> !ati | _pg_
[22:56] <Nullifi3d> is ther any way to *fully* customize the login screen for 10.04lts ?
[22:56] <BluesKaj> !ati | ritimbaks
[22:56] <raffaele> Hi, I don't have a file /etc/default/grub
[22:56] <Guest72040> sebseb 2.5gb 3.3ghz PCIE 128mb grafic
[22:56] <_pg_> close enough
[22:56] <RnFstRuckHrd> delemi - yes
[22:56] <raffaele> what can i do? reinstall grub2?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> ritimbaks: you might have a driver listed under system > administration > hardware drivers, waiting for you to install it
[22:57] <TBotNi1> all, PB at: http://pastebin.ca/1871379
[22:57] <Rave1> Is there a way to remove or properly disable Pulseaudio  and still retain the volume control on the panel  W/ 10.04
[22:57] <ritimbaks> sebsebseb: NOPE
[22:57] <joaopinto> Rave1, no
[22:57] <radar3d> Question: How can I get it to reload the path without rebooting?
[22:57] <sebsebseb> ritimbaks: by the way if you install the propritary driver, you may find that the plymouth boot up won't work properly anymore, because how  the drivers have issues with it.
[22:58] <pat109> hello
[22:58] <acicula_> Rave1, you can manage volume off alsa directly, but why do you want to remove pulseaudio?
[22:58] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: email address?
[22:58] <sebsebseb> Rave1: pulseaudio isn't that easy to remove,  there are tutorials on the web
[22:58] <Guest72040> sebseb could the fact that i have installed more ram than supported affect my performance?
[22:58] <pat109> please tell me, how to change system-ready.ogg
[22:58] <delemi> RnfstRuckHrd: going to send you a screen shot
[22:58] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: how much RAM?
[22:58] <Guest72040> 2.5 gb 4 gb all
[22:58] <RnFstRuckHrd><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:58] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: RAM probably isn't the issue
[22:58] <Rave1> I have 10.04 on an old P3 lappy it does not like pulse
[22:58] <sebsebseb> Guest72040: How did you install Ubuntu?
[22:59] <Guest72040> clean install
[22:59] <TBotNi1> All, Sorry to be a little off topic, but really need help as can not find any on this.  Hoping someone there has dealt with this before.
[22:59] <Rave1> Sound is fine with Pulse audio removed
[22:59] <dhikr> sebsebseb yes but I think that here so I can find a solution with you. it must interest you. I was quiet with 10.04. After two hours of sunvirtualbox I wanted to watch a video on 10.04. and crash!  I just see the menu where it proposes to enter the bios menu. and after black screen. Then I run the live cd of 8.04. I look at my hard drives so good. I restarted normally and then all is well. more black screen.
[22:59] <dhikr>  any restarts. it speaks to you?
[22:59] <sebsebseb> Rave1: yeah pulseaudio issues in Ubuntu since 8.04, when they introduced it.  In some distros it's really easy to disable and without problems.
[22:59] <acicula_> TBotNi1, try formulating a question
[22:59] <AbuMaia> Hey guys.  My dmesg is crammed full of this message: "option: option_instat_callback: error -84"  What's going on, and what can I do about it?
[23:00] <Nic1> Hello, I would like to install ubuntu 10.04 from an external harddrive. I used unetbootin to create a bootable partition with the ubuntu setup on it. But it doesn't boot from the external harddrive. There seems to be no MBR... Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:00] <Rave1> sebsebseb,  thnks I will just live without the volume icon
[23:00] <TBotNi1> acicula_: I know I did, did you not see my "?"
[23:00] <ritimbaks> sebsebseb:  that site you told me is for Karmic Repositories, is it a problem for me using lucid ?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> ritimbaks: uh what? did I? what?
[23:00] <konner> How do I install icons?
[23:00] <acicula_> TBotNi1, i guess not
[23:01] <pat109> please tell me, how to change system-ready sound
[23:01] <p1und3r> acicula_ with or without the change to /etc/modules "nvidia" kernel module fails to load
[23:01] <sebsebseb> konner: you can from the repo
[23:01] <Guest72040> sebseb thanks any way:)
[23:01] <konner> orly.
[23:01] <sebsebseb> konner: quite a lot of icon packs and other themes in there
[23:01] <konner> hm
[23:01] <konner> I downloaded them already
[23:01] <konner> Just don't know how to install
[23:01] <anom01y> anyone solve the Plymouth Nvidia bug yet ?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> konner: then once you got the icon packs
[23:01] <mot> DOES ANYONE KNOW THUNDERBIRD???
[23:01] <joaopinto> !caps | mot
[23:01] <sebsebseb> konner: you can customize a theme, and tell it to use the icons
[23:01] <funkyHat> Nullifi3d: not really, not like GDM used to be customisable. It was changed by the Gnome project upstream. Completely rewritten due to security issues
[23:01] <konner> I got a theme installed but it requires the icon pack i just got
[23:01] <acicula_> p1und3r, can you try sudo service gdm stop && sudo modprobe nvidia && sudo service gdm start
[23:01] <konner> okay
[23:01] <TBotNi1> mot: What level
[23:01] <anom01y> mot: yeah
[23:02] <p1und3r> acicula_ yeah brb ill try tha
[23:02] <antibody> hi all, how can I edit grub2 boot order? I saw the scripts..and they are huge to edit
[23:02] <Nullifi3d> funkyHat: meh. anything close to that functionality planned?
[23:02] <sebsebseb> dhikr: oh your doing 10.04 in Virtualbox?
[23:02] <mot> I need help with a export/import issue
[23:02] <antibody> !grub2
[23:02] <joaopinto> !grub2  | antibody
[23:02] <Twitch> are there any cons to running ubuntu through VirtualBox [like I am right now] other than having some hardware compatibility issues?
[23:02] <antibody> obrigado joao
[23:02] <sebsebseb> Twitch: of course
[23:02] <TBotNi1> mot: Address book?
[23:02] <anom01y> mot: thats kinda beyond me, my system is still downgrading
[23:02] <sebsebseb> TBotNi1: espesaily with Windows as the host OS
[23:02] <anom01y> mot: can't help sorry
[23:02] <modalon> Rave1: Are you convinced probs coming frm pulseaudio?
[23:02] <Twitch> and, obviously, having to split your RAM and CPU a bit
[23:03] <funkyHat> Nullifi3d: I don't think so
[23:03] <sebsebseb> TBotNi1: Which it is I assume?
[23:03] <sysdoc> antibody, startup-manager maybe what your looking for
[23:03] <AbuMaia> Hey guys.  My dmesg is crammed full of this message: "option: option_instat_callback: error -84"  What's going on, and what can I do about it?
[23:03] <Nullifi3d> kk
[23:03] <Nullifi3d> thanks anyway
[23:03] <p1und3r> acicula_ sudo modprobe nvidia returned no value
[23:03] <acicula_> p1und3r, thats good
[23:03] <sebsebseb> !info startup-manager
[23:03] <Rave1> modalon, well I have uninstalled it and sound was fine
[23:04] <modalon> Have to do that also...
[23:04] <Jowi> konner, you can put the icons in /home/username/.icons/themefolder or system wide in /usr/share/icons/themefolder
[23:04] <dhikr> sebsebseb no, i do windows xp sp2 in sun virtual box
[23:04] <p1und3r> acicula_ why would i lose the kernel module "nvidia" after rebooting thats the prob
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Twitch: see above, I messaged wrong person a few times
[23:04] <mot> TBotNi1 Check your private chat....I have a question on import/export.
[23:04] <Twitch> oh, alright. haha.
[23:04] <TBotNi1> sebsebseb: That's mot's address book problem.  Mine is the ACT to VTiger convert.  Just can't export the data, since never learned clipper and that is what ACT 6.x is written in.
[23:04] <Grizzy> Helloooo....
[23:04] <modalon> It's really strange:9.10 worked in the beginning
[23:04] <acicula_> p1und3r, dunno
[23:04] <sebsebseb> TBotNi1: yes I messaged you by mistake, I meant to message Twitch
[23:05] <Twitch> yes, i'm running Windows XP pro as my host
[23:05] <p1und3r> acicula_ and i got the same error message when using 173 drivers without the change to /etc/modules
[23:05] <red> clear
[23:05] <Twitch> ubuntu lucid is guest
[23:05] <acicula_> p1und3r, does x work with the module loaded?
[23:05] <red> oops :)
[23:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> easiest way to move the X _ box from the left to the right is to?
[23:05] <modalon> Do you think it may be depend on the kernel?
[23:05] <p1und3r> acicula_ yeah im in X now
[23:05] <acicula_> p1und3r, whats the error?
[23:05] <joaopinto> !controls | U-b-u-n-t-u
[23:05] <p1und3r> acicula_ failed to load module "nvidia"
[23:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks
[23:05] <acicula_> p1und3r, when starting X?
[23:05] <p1und3r> acicula_ yea on initial boot, until i reinstall the binary
[23:06] <ddfire> hi
[23:06] <modalon> so it is bad translated
[23:06] <p1und3r> acicula_ once the binary has been ran, i can then start x normally until i shut down
[23:06] <AbuMaia> Hey guys.  My dmesg is crammed full of this message: "option: option_instat_callback: error -84"  What's going on, and what can I do about it?
[23:06] <AcolyteVersion1> Hate to pester the community for help, but this is driving me crazy.  I should be able to mount a CIFS / SAMBA Windows share via computer name, right?
[23:06] <modalon> Can you fix it with an older kernel?
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Twitch: anyway Ubuntu inside Windows, for only testing, that's okish, but in the long run NO!
[23:06] <AntiProxy> i seem to be having a problem with Evolution mail client since i upgraded to 10.04 last night.. it randomly segfaults by itself, even when it's in the background doing nothing.. is it a known issue? any known workarounds yet?
[23:06] <acicula_> p1und3r, but like now after modprobing nvidia it does not allow you to start x?
[23:06] <ddfire> how i set kdm as a login manager? thanks
[23:06] <acicula_> AcolyteVersion1, yeah
[23:06] <p1und3r> acicula_ yeah
[23:06] <TBotNi1> Got 2 version of VTiger one on CentOS the other on Ubuntu.  Using the U-Box for all the hammering, but think my admin set up the CentOS box for "live"
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Twitch: also if you were to run Windows inside Ubuntu, you would actsauly get a major security advantage
[23:07] <radar3d> Question: How can I get it to reload the path without rebooting?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> ddfire: simple
[23:07] <acicula_> p1und3r, hmm weird
[23:07] <sebsebseb> ddfire: install kdm, then it should ask which one to use, and do KDM
[23:07] <AcolyteVersion1> I can mount fine via IP address, but have no luck at all mounting via computer name / host name.  An nmblookup resolves the hostnames for me, but when applying to a mount command, I get a "cannot resolve hostname" error
[23:07] <p1und3r> acicula_ yeah very
[23:07] <Twitch> the biggest reason I don't primarily dual-boot is because I have dial-up. to get everything on ubuntu just the way i want it with such a horrible connection would be very agonizing
[23:07] <ddfire> sebsebseb, kdm is allready installed
[23:07] <AcolyteVersion1> So, it is possible - awesome.  I can live with knowing I'm doing something wrong.  Now to just educate myself.
[23:07] <Twitch> everything i want so that i wouldn't have to have windows at the ready, i mean
[23:07] <destroth> Ok so the dkpg error I recieved told me to use this command: sudo dpkg --configure -a    then I recieved an error at the end of the command Errors were encountered while processing: gcalctool, The initial error also said please report.
[23:07] <acicula_> p1und3r, then i dont know what to try, i havent tinkered with nvidia binary drivers for awhile
[23:07] <ddfire> sebsebseb, i installed xubuntu package over kubuntu, and now i havent the shutdown button on kde
[23:07] <sebsebseb> ddfire: this is one way to do it, altough I expect there is another.  remove/purge gdm, and it will probably use KDM as default,   or  remove both, and then install kdm
[23:07] <p1und3r> acicula_ i appreciate you trying man i do :D
[23:08] <modalon> p1und3r: try an older rkernel
[23:08] <sebsebseb> ddfire: don't know about that issue, you could try #kubuntu  or maybe #xubuntu or well both, though
[23:08] <p1und3r> modalon if i boot in to 9.10 it will work :|
[23:08] <destroth> and it is still stalling on perparing to upgrade, anyone have a solution?
[23:09] <modalon> yes of course. My soundcard also stopped after the newest kernel :-)
[23:09] <p1und3r> modalon: im using the driver right now so frustrating :D
[23:10] <p1und3r> modalon: and im 10.04, if i reboot its all gone
[23:10] <wildbat> cxzdsaewq
[23:11] <modalon> p1und3r: are you shure, you have seperate kernelmodules?
[23:11] <[1]cla> Upgrade 9.10 to 10.4 failed, no video. Had to install 9.10 w/ ?safe graphics?, thought upgrade would preserve setting, what now?
[23:11] <wildbat> oops wrong keybroad ;p
[23:11] <p1und3r> modalon: erm no
[23:11] <shane2peru> ok, does anyone know how to get two way syncing with evolution and google calendar?
[23:11] <adi1> hi all. fresh install ubuntu10.04 dell inspiron 6400 c2d 2ghz 1mb ram, ati x1300. dual boot with windows xp. once avery three boots ubuntu gives me the black screen. the only output is a line of corruption on the top and this: "Found unsupported phy Catalog 5,type4, Revision" any one any idea? thanks
[23:11] <funkyHat> shane2peru: add your google calendar as a calendar to evolution
[23:12] <shane2peru> funkyHat, did that, and when I try to copy stuff over, it compain
[23:12] <adi1> the only thing i can do after that black screen is forced shutdown
[23:12] <modalon> p1und3r: or was this question crappy?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> adi1: oh actsaul boot up issue? before you get log in screen?
[23:12] <p1und3r> modalon: no just above my knowledge of linux
[23:12] <adi1> there is no login screen
[23:13] <sebsebseb> adi1: uh what? there should be
[23:13] <funkyHat> shane2peru: when you added the calendar did you set the type as google?
[23:13] <adi1> it logins automatically
[23:13] <p1und3r> modalon: im no pro but i don't know what you mean by separate kernel modules
[23:13] <Pelo> evening folks,  what'S the kernel in lucid ?
[23:13] <p1und3r> 2.6.32-21-generic
[23:13] <delemi> pelo: http://e-articles.info/e/a/title/What-Is-the-Kernel/
[23:13] <modalon> p1und3r: each kernelimage needs it's own modules
[23:13] <adi1> seb: i put it to login automatically
[23:14] <shane2peru> funkyHat, yep, and if I put something on the google calendar (on the web), it reads it, however I can't copy something over to it from my evolution calendar to my google calendar in evolution
[23:14] <sebsebseb> Pelo: uname -r will tell you
[23:14] <Pelo> delemi, I mean what kernel number
[23:14] <adi1> but this is very disturbing
[23:14] <gareth__> Hi all
[23:14] <modalon> if something is gone wrong with compilation and/or configuration you have to make shure that everything has gone right
[23:14] <delemi> pelo: sorry lots of noobs today
[23:14] <gareth__> anyone here any good with Wine and the latest version of Ubuntu?!
[23:14] <Pelo> sebsebseb, I'M not using lucid,  which is why I 'm asking,  I'll be upgrading at the end of the week when I get my new comp
[23:15] <sebsebseb> gareth__: if you want wine app help #winehq is the place to go
[23:15] <mfox> Hi guys
[23:15] <delemi> gareth_:
[23:15] <gareth__> Done a bit of searching and can't seem to find the solution to my problem.
[23:15] <funkyHat> shane2peru: oh ⢁| not sure I've ever tried that
[23:15] <Gryllida> mfox, hi
[23:15] <gareth__> ah, thanks sebsebseb
[23:15] <delemi> gareth_: what is the ?
[23:15] <Pelo> gareth__, just state your issue and see if someone can help
[23:15] <con-man> how to open rar in linux
[23:15] <p1und3r> modalon: yea i read that the nvidia binary doesnt fully work with 10.04, but i dunno how to fix it p
[23:15] <sebsebseb> gareth__: np
[23:15] <shane2peru> funkyHat, ok, well, thanks anyway.
[23:15] <Pelo> con-man, sudo apt-get install unrar and then right lcick the file
[23:15] <mfox> im using, 9.04, wanna move to 10.04, so i cant directly upgrade...
[23:15] <gareth__> Application loads perfectly. No mouse pointer. Looking online it recommends to add a line to my xorg.conf file, but I dont have one
[23:15] <mot> Thunderbird only gives me the option of importing mail from communicator 4.?...I need to import from a thunderbird file?
[23:15] <Pelo> so anyeone  kernel number in lucid please ?
[23:15] <modalon> p1und3r: try to manually compile it
[23:15] <mfox> how can i save my applications installed and files from losting ?
[23:16] <p1und3r> modalon: that's a friggin good idea, let me try that
[23:16] <theGman> What is the command to install apache,php and mysql all at once or am stuck doing them one at a tim?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> mfox: 9.04 really is better than 10.04 in certain ways
[23:16] <delemi>  2.6.32-21-generic
[23:16] <TheMozart> Can someone please help me to get my Canon Pixma IP1500 working on Ubuntu?
[23:16] <joaopinto> mfox, the upgrade will not delete your data
[23:16] <Pelo> delemi, thank you
[23:16] <delemi> pelo:  2.6.32-21-generic
[23:17] <sebsebseb> mfox: also for some people or computers 10.04 is a bad idea, for various reasons
[23:17] <modalon> p1und3r: i had that trouble several times with alsa and ATi graphics. I often realized it wasn't compiled right automagically
[23:17] <mfox> joaopinto: how can i upgrade grom 9.04 to 10.04 ?! there's no guide on website
[23:17] <AbuMaia> Hey guys.  My dmesg is crammed full of this message: "option: option_instat_callback: error -84"  What's going on, and what can I do about it?
[23:17] <mfox> from *
[23:17] <sebsebseb> modalon: plus if you upgrade a 9.04 Ext3 install  through 9.10 to 10.04, no Ext4 for you, but you don't really need that.  No Grub 2 on upgrade either could be installed after woulds, but for most of us it's rather pointless anyway.
[23:17] <joaopinto> mfox, ALT-F2: update-manager -d
[23:17] <sebsebseb> whoops  wrong one,  mfox see above
[23:18] <sebsebseb> modalon: messed up auto complete, didn't want to message you
[23:18] <mot> Can anybody here help me with a thunderbird issue?
[23:18] <TheMozart> I just moved from Windows to latest Ubuntu, but printer not detected. Can someone please help me to get my Canon Pixma IP1500 working on Ubuntu?
[23:18] <mfox> sebsebseb: ok tnx
[23:18] <p1und3r> modalon: i think nvidia only offers a bin to compile it the wrong way :|
[23:18] <aj00200> mot: ask in #thunderbird at irc.mozilla.org
[23:18] <Andrew12> what's the best irc client (with a gui) for Linux? (non-KDE preferred)
[23:18] <Nic1> Question: I try to install ubuntu from an external harddrive, but I cannot boot from that hard drive to install ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[23:18] <joaopinto> Andrew12, best is subjective, I like xchat
[23:19] <sebsebseb> !best | Andrew12
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Andrew12: there isn't one since xchat isn't that great really
[23:19] <TheMozart> anyone know where I can get "iP1500Linux.tar.gz" from?
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Andrew12: more seriosuly xchat is ok, but I don't like it much
[23:19] <hiexpo> !cannon
[23:19] <Andrew12> I don't like xchat either
[23:19] <TheMozart> canon website don;t have it anymore :(
[23:19] <hiexpo> !printer
[23:19] <blaza> i have a gateway lt2104u, the scroll does not work in the new netook version. any ideas?
[23:19] <TheMozart> hiexpo: that doesnt help
[23:19] <jsec> trying to compile a random number test suite from source, and i get a "configure error: cannot compile a simple FORTRAN program!" any ideas?
[23:20] <TBotNik> All, See I'm not putting my Q's right.  Trying to get 100% off Windows.  Converting ACT to VTiger and need help.  Does anyone have exp with ACT data Extract to MySQL?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> !irc | Andrew12
[23:20] <joaopinto> jsec, did you install fortran ?
[23:20] <TheMozart> hiexpo: im NOT looking for supprted printers, so your links do not help me
[23:20] <Andrew12> now that sounds useful
[23:20] <ejv> best huh? irssi is the best. full stop.
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Andrew12: except as far as I know it's basically this
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Andrew12: chatzilla add on for Firefox
[23:21] <mfox> sebsebseb: so i want to have Ext4 and Grub2, so i would install 10.04 by formating my current 9.04, then how can i save from installed applications from lost? any backuping method or such ?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> Andrew12: xchat or KDE IRC clients such as Konversation, or termianl ones such as irssi and weechat
[23:21] <modalon> p1und3r:i think there is precompiled code and sources. First i would try to install sources and then do m-a
[23:21] <zoug> getting error while installing official nvidia drivers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/427265/
[23:21] <jsec> joaopinto, hyuh?
[23:21] <[1]cla> 9.10 to 10.4 upgrade failure, no video after grub just black screen. Old kernel still works. Any suggestions?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> mfox: I am an expereinced user since second release in 2005, and 9.04 may be better for you
[23:21] <Andrew12> only reason i'm asking is because one of my friends who installed linux wants an irc client, but we can't find any good ones
[23:21] <joaopinto> mfox, you don't need to remove your /home to reinstall, you can keep it as long you select not to format the partition
[23:21] <hiexpo> TheMozart, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248745&highlight=ip1500
[23:21] <p1und3r> modalon: m-a?
[23:21] <ejv> guis are for the weak, force yourself to use irssi for a week; you'll never return to any other client, EVER again
[23:21] <sebsebseb> mfox: untill 10.10 in October anyway, 9.04 is still supported untill October
[23:22] <joaopinto> ejv, right, that was a good joke, get back to past century :)
[23:22] <sebsebseb> mfox: Do you like the colour purple? Do you want built in features for Facebook or Twitter, for example?
[23:22] <mfox> sebsebseb: good! :D well when i was trying to install 9.10 everyone said same to me :D lol
[23:22] <kip> @ejv: irssi is very nice indeed
[23:22] <sebsebseb> mfox: Do you want to play 3D OpenGL games?  If so which card do you have?
[23:22] <ejv> i challenge a gui irc client user to move as fast as I can in irssi... ;)
[23:22] <sebsebseb> mfox: yeah 9.10 was like the Vista of Ubuntu
[23:23] <sebsebseb> mfox: or Windows ME if you like, know what I mean?
[23:23] <ejv> it just can't be done, point/click is wildy inefficient
[23:23] <mfox> sebsebseb: i have Intel 4500 video card, its a laptop
[23:23] <_SKiTZO> ejv: move where?
[23:23] <p1und3r> sebsebseb thats a bit harsh
[23:23] <sebsebseb> mfox: However now even 9.10 is quite a bit better than 10.04 in certain ways
[23:23] <_SKiTZO> ejv: most gui clients have keyboardshortcuts
[23:23] <_SKiTZO> :P
[23:23] <ejv> _SKiTZO: between irc channels, private messages, server window etc.
[23:23] <_SKiTZO> ctrl tab
[23:23] <_SKiTZO> ?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> p1und3r: no it's not,  and if you were expereinced enough, you would probably  know :D
[23:23] <mfox> sebsebseb: got you!
[23:23] <modalon> in 9.10 with latest kernels problems began
[23:23] <_SKiTZO> i use opera for irc hehe
[23:23] <_SKiTZO> its perfect
[23:23] <joaopinto> !ot
[23:24] <delemi> xchat
[23:24] <ejv> ctrl tab is a really awkward keyboard assignment for the left hand, terrible in fact lol
[23:24] <someoneelse> wow irssi is pretty sweet
[23:24] <someoneelse> :O
[23:24] <kip> 10.4 hasn't even been out a week, give it a couple months for the worst bugs to be pounded out
[23:24] <_SKiTZO> cause it can sync my irc server settings so i never have to do that over
[23:24] <someoneelse> i dig this :D
[23:24] <TheMozart> hiexpo: are you even reading my comments????  I told you.. that link is also useless because I cannot find the file "iP1500Linux.tar.gz"
[23:24] <ejv> someoneelse: run it in 'screen'
[23:24] <kip> irssi is amazing
[23:24] <_SKiTZO> and i have irc in tabs just like webpages
[23:24] <sebsebseb> kip: That's the thing will they be?  as far as I know even 10.04 is only security updates
[23:24] <blaza> i have a gateway lt2104u, the scroll does not work in the new netook version. any ideas?
[23:24] <TheMozart> !baiting hiexpo
[23:25] <mfox> sebsebseb: isnt it faster than 9.04 ?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> mfox: depends on the computer
[23:25] <queso> How do I set a static local ip using network-manager?  I currently have <IP_ADDRESS> through DHCP, but I want it to always be <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:25] <Kitsune> i have a bit of a complex question, not sure how to ask so i'll just explain the situation.. i have a windowsxpsp1 box and an ubuntu jaunty box, jaunty box is better but stuck with integrated intel gpu...... windows box has nvidia, i wanna play games on the windows box through remote desktop on my jaunty box, but in rdp there is no gpu... at all :/ anyone got any suggestions or anything i need to know/try?
[23:25] <ejv> when you have 100 channels you're idling in... irssi makes all the difference heheh
[23:25] <kip> Seb: I personnally haven't had a single issue with 10.4
[23:25] <mfox> sebsebseb: well my 9.04 is fast enough :P
[23:25] <sebsebseb> mfox: on the other computer I got 3 seconds or so Plymouth boot up  when it works. Yeah when it works, so not at the moment with a propritary Nivida graphics card driver installed, untill I some how  fix it.
[23:26] <mfox> sebsebseb: just need installing new kernel, like 2.6.33
[23:26] <joaopinto> Kitsune, I am not aware of a remote desktop with 3D capabilities, the network link would just be too slow compared to a local graphics card
[23:26] <_SKiTZO> Kitsune: i think that is a bad idea
[23:26] <sebsebseb> mfox: so for now  no nivida driver installed, so can't do stuff like OpenGL etc
[23:26] <delemi> themozart: canon pixma1500 suse10
[23:26] <delemi> (a portion of "this" is a "copy and paste" from the official howto for suse 9.1)
[23:26] <delemi> go to
[23:26] <delemi> http://software.canon-europe.com/index.asp
[23:26] <delemi> printers and than PIXMA iP1500
[23:26] <FloodBot4> delemi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <delemi> now select linux and your language
[23:26] <sebsebseb> mfox: you know virtual machines yeah?
[23:26] <kip> Just use a ati card ;)
[23:26] <_SKiTZO> Kitsune: 3d cards usually do a lot of stuff on the gpu that is hard to get sendt over a network
[23:26] <eric0wens> heyy
[23:26] <eric0wens> suppp
[23:26] <TheMozart> delemi: hehe
[23:26] <AcolyteVersion1> Kitsune: The lag on a connection like that would make playing most games borderline impossible.
[23:27] <eric0wens> first time on here
[23:27] <mfox> sebsebseb: yeah, and i think i should try 10.04
[23:27] <sebsebseb> mfox: right bingo yeah
[23:27] <mfox> sebsebseb: have VBox installed.
[23:27] <sebsebseb> mfox: download the ISO virtualbox it and try
[23:27] <sebsebseb> mfox: if you like do other distros even whilst your at it such as Mandriva :)
[23:27] <Kitsune> im fully aware of the complications, however... i repeat, jaunty box is stuck with integrated intel gpu x.x no way to swap it out.. windows box blows and has annoying keyboard and mouse x.x
[23:27] <_SKiTZO> Kitsune: well 3d over network will suck more than intel integrated..
[23:28] <sebsebseb> mfox: I assume you  did a default 9.04 install with Ext3?
[23:28] <joaopinto> Kitsune, we are not talking about complications, we are talking about something which is not doable from a technical perspective
[23:28] <TheMozart> delemi: I cannot find "iP1500Linux.tar.gz" on that website you gave me
[23:28] <[1]cla> irc noob ... is this thing working?
[23:28] <sebsebseb> [1]cla: yes
[23:28] <Kitsune> what i basically wanna do is, have the windows box run everything, and just control it from the jaunty box, having it play over like a video or something...
[23:28] <delemi> themozart: hold on
[23:28] <FeasibilityStudy> Does Ubuntu have some sort of sleep function that automatically shuts the computer off after a certain idle time?  I ask because I left my PC on last night and when i wake up, it is completely off.  There was no power failure as my router's uptime proves.
[23:28] <_SKiTZO> Kitsune.. heh there is one wired way to do it: if your intel box has tv input and your windows box has tv output
[23:28] <_SKiTZO> ;)
[23:28] <sebsebseb> !vnc > Kitsune
[23:28] <eric0wens> anyone know any sites for tp2 animated wallpapesr?
[23:28] <mfox> sebsebseb: yeah! with kernel 2.6.28-18-generic !
[23:29] <kip> Feasibility: Take a look at your power management settings
[23:29] <joaopinto> Kitsune, the "control" part that you want means accessing a remote graphical card and get it's capabilities over a network cable, which is. 1000000x slower than the graphical card bus
[23:29] <Kitsune> (i've seen this work on a weak ubuntu box/vista box combo with fallout3... surely having better equipment than the other person had would help or somehting...)
[23:29] <eric0wens> dmt anyone?
[23:29] <TheMozart> delemi: ok, but it's not there :(
[23:29] <delemi> themozart: term
[23:29] <delemi> wget http://software.canon-europe.com/files/soft22415/software/iP1500Linux.tar.gz
[23:29] <sebsebseb> mfox: right well if you had done the optional Ext4 file system which with that verson of Ubuntu isn't perfectly stable, but if you had,  and also text mode as well,  you would have a really great boot up probably
[23:30] <TheMozart> delemi: wow how did you find it?
[23:30] <XuMuK> hi there)
[23:30] <sebsebseb> mfox: if you want Virutalbox 9.04 with Ext4, to see what I mean
[23:30] <Kitsune> brb
[23:30] <Libido> athnfjxzgj
[23:30] <delemi> themozart: it is there I just downloaded it from term
[23:30] <XuMuK> someone knows how to set plymouth-sunruse as boosplash?
[23:30] <TheMozart> delemi: term?
[23:30] <mfox> sebsebseb: i will
[23:30] <delemi> terminal
[23:31] <TheMozart> delemi: thanks for your help
[23:31] <delemi> is it downloading??
[23:31] <sebsebseb> mfox: I mean since the kernel and such,  optional Ext4 support in  9.04 isn't perfectly stable,  so some people got issues,  however worked great for me, on this computer, but also the other one.
[23:31] <XuMuK> !plymouth
[23:31] <sebsebseb> mfox: then when they released 9.10 with Ext4 I thought great, so boot up wil be really fast?
[23:31] <kip> seb: Ext4 works fine on my box under 10.4
[23:31] <delemi> themozart: is it downloading?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> mfox: I tested with Ext3 and Ext4 and didn't  seem to make a difference at all, just the automatic disk checking after 23 or so boots, just like optioanly with 9.04, is faster
[23:32] <TheMozart> delemi: yes
[23:32] <delemi> themozart: there is more to the install you should know
[23:32] <sebsebseb> kip: not sure if it's working ok yet on the other computer after upgading from 9.10, I guess it is though
[23:32] <mfox> sebsebseb: right
[23:32] <civix_> Good night!!
[23:32] <rito> good night
[23:32] <_SKiTZO> did anyone experience that they have to press a key from time to time to get the install going? it "spaces out" untill i press some key.
[23:32] <delemi> themozart: To install it you'll have to type the following into the terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal):
[23:32] <delemi> cd Desktop
[23:32] <delemi> wget http://software.canon-europe.com/files/soft22415/software/iP1500Linux.tar.gz
[23:32] <delemi> tar xvzf iP1500Linux.tar.gz
[23:32] <delemi> cd iP1500
[23:32] <FloodBot4> delemi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:33] <delemi> sudo alien --to-deb *.rpm
[23:33] <Theravadan> live-magic isn't working: IOError: sh: lh_config: not found
[23:33] <kip> Seb: oh, I actually upgraded from 8.10
[23:33] <AcolyteVersion1> CIFS / Windows / Hostname mounting is still alluding me.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/MbxRbd3q  Anyone able to point a lowly new comer in the right direction?  Thanks in advance, folks.
[23:33] <Cammy_> Hi. My themes won't stick.  Whenever I reboot, I get a basic X theme and not the one I've chosen.  Any tips?
[23:33] <sebsebseb> mfox: if you decide to upgrade to 10.04 well ok sure, so the two features you won't just get, but nevermind.  Also  9.04 to 9.10 upgrade might go wrong on you.
[23:33] <joaopinto> Cammy_, you mean your gnome theme ?
[23:33] <Cammy_> Yep!
[23:34] <sebsebseb> kip: ah yes 8.10 a great release, well ok ethernet woudn't just work on the other computer, but  same thing for XP on there where it needs a driver.
[23:34] <joaopinto> Cammy_, if you re-login (without rebooting) does it show up ?
[23:34] <Theravadan> which package provides lh_config?
[23:34] <Cammy_> If I do that, it pops up the theme selector dialog
[23:34] <mfox> sebsebseb: i dont wanna install 9.10! it has lots of video card issues...
[23:34] <TheMozart> delemi: thats not what they say at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248745&highlight=ip1500
[23:34] <sebsebseb> kip: sad really that it went end of life on April 30th really, but that's how it is,  time goes on.
[23:34] <sebsebseb> mfox: ah yes for Intel it does
[23:34] <sebsebseb> !intel | mfox
[23:34] <joaopinto> Cammy_, that's odd
[23:34] <delemi> themozart: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3832
[23:34] <sebsebseb> mfox: oh that's 9.04 not 9.10
[23:34] <Cammy_> I'll say!
[23:35] <TheMozart> delemi: u were banned for helping me? :(
[23:35] <mfox> sebsebseb: im thinkg of just upgrading my kernel
[23:35] <sebsebseb> mfox: no that old kernel 2.6.28 is fine really
[23:35] <Cammy_> I think I might just reinstall.  It's no biggie.
[23:35] <sebsebseb> mfox: for most of us
[23:35] <delemi> themozart: I pasted from a website
[23:35] <sebsebseb> mfox: not much point upgrading your 9.04 kernel unless you have a proper reason to, e.g. more hardware support
[23:35] <kip> Seb: It was a very nice distro, I only upgraded to 10.4 after a few of my friends told me that I *have* to upgrade
[23:35] <civix_> look i have a problem , in my pc have a monitor that is a TV and i don't know how to center the tv, somebody can help me?:O
[23:35] <Kitsune> blah... ok ummm.. so how do i set the windows box to use vnc? :/ i tried to connect using the protocol and it said "connection refused" soooo.....
[23:36] <Omen_201> I'm getting "No candidate version found for libdvdcss2" when trying to install. Is there not a version yet for Lucid.
[23:36] <mfox> sebsebseb: yeah, but any idea how can i upgrade my current Ext3 to Ext4 ?! or i only can reinstall and again losting data.... ?
[23:36] <TheMozart> delemi: on the website thety say I should: sudo alien *i386.rpm
[23:36] <eric0wens> anyone know windows mobile pretty good?
[23:36] <Sereph> i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and activated the driver for the nvidia gpu, now the resolution is lower than it was before i activated the driver
[23:37] <delemi> themozart: either is correct
[23:37] <_SKiTZO> Kitsune: just install vn server, open the right ports in the firewall and try to connect from linux box
[23:37] <kip> mfox: You would have to repartition the entire drive
[23:37] <_SKiTZO> vnc=port 5900 is im not forgetfull
[23:37] <sebsebseb> kip: Yeah the have to upgrade thing hrm,  well I made sure someone knew about it quite a long while before,  and got her to buy an external hard disk for her data.  However since I haven't contacted her recently,  I think she is still on 8.10, hrm.
[23:38] <sebsebseb> kip: really should upgrade once a release goes end of life, but a few weeks or so after probably, woudn't really be a big deal.
[23:38] <mfox> kip: ok
[23:38] <sebsebseb> kip: end of life, or before it does I mean
[23:38] <kip> Seb: I did leave 8.10 on my spare laptop to satisfy my nostalgia
[23:38] <khafra> Why is it that right now, in 2010, I can create a Windows boot usb just by setting the bootable flag and copying the files from the .iso, but ubuntu has a 65 billion step process that's not officially documented, is different on every webpage, and doesn't work?
[23:38] <sebsebseb> kip:  however of course for installs that aern't  Internet connected, so what if they are out of date
[23:39] <|Quartz|> Hello. If someelse has use rubyripper and can't use it on lucid (see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1462806), my solution is to add the repertories of karmic, and create the file /etc/apt/preferences containing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/427272/ . With this method, rubyripper works fine on lucid :)
[23:39] <mfox> khafra: but i think windows is more undocumented !!
[23:39] <sebsebseb> !usb | khafra
[23:39] <delemi> omen_201: installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[23:39] <kip> Seb: all I use on that laptop is firefox and pidgin
[23:39] <sebsebseb> kip: need to be up to date then with security updates
[23:40] <khafra> mfox: At least it's easy, and not documented with imaginary things
[23:40] <sebsebseb> kip: Internet connected operating system installs, should be up to date with security updates.  installs that aren't going on the Internet though,  useauly not much of an issue then.
[23:40] <kip> Seb: I just don't use it often, I'll upgrade ir later if I need to
[23:40] <khafra> For instance, that "usb-creator" program on the page ubottu just linked me to?
[23:40] <khafra> Doesn't exist.
[23:40] <khafra> I'm running 8.04, and that program does not appear in Synaptic or apt-get
[23:41] <eric0wens> is there a windows mobile chat?
[23:41] <kip> Seb: I always keep the latest stable release on my desktop and my primary laptop
[23:41] <pumpy> does the minimal cd support full system encryption?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> eric0wens: maybe on here, but I don't think so, however there is ##windows
[23:42] <delemi> khafra: usb-creater-gtk
[23:42] <eric0wens> can you make your own chat?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> kip: Newer is not always better!
[23:42] <khafra> delemi: Thanks, but that doesn't show up either, even after enabling community and multiverse
[23:42] <delemi> eric0wens: you can private chat
[23:42] <eric0wens> shoot
[23:42] <Andrew12> the Minimal CD is kind of annoying... Ubuntu should have a real net-install
[23:42] <Andrew12> -_-
[23:42] <eric0wens> anyone know anything about touch pro 2?
[23:42] <pumpy> does the minimal cd support full system encryption?
[23:43] <sebsebseb> pumpy: maybe, but
[23:43] <pumpy> yes?
[23:43] <Andrew12> heh
[23:43] <sebsebseb> pumpy: if that goes wrong on you, you will lose your data, also it may not be as secure as you think it is,  there was an article about that
[23:43] <khafra> delemi: Any idea where I can download a binary or something?
[23:43] <eric0wens> any xbox 360 owners?
[23:43] <vinpan> i have 3 computers, one xp one win 7 and my laptop ubuntu ( file sharing ) i can get into the xp computer ( files show ) but the win 7 ( no files show ), what can i do?
[23:43] <sebsebseb> !ot | eric0wens
[23:43] <Andrew12> what does an xbox have to do with ubuntu? -.-
[23:43] <randomusr> is openoffice 3.2 available in backport?
[23:43] <kip> Seb: True, but I have never had a problem with a new ubuntu release. It's only my personal desktop, and I always back up my entire system before an upgrade
[23:43] <pumpy> sebsebseb: could you please link me to the article
[23:43] <randomusr> is openoffice 3.2 available in backports?
[23:43] <eric0wens> alot
[23:44] <eric0wens> anyone willing to talk private chat me
[23:44] <Scunizi> If I'm dual booting ubuntu and kubuntu will the uuid's of partitions in fstab be the same on both machines?
[23:44] <eric0wens> got some questions only electronic masterminds though
[23:44] <sebsebseb> pumpy: it would probably take a while to find, so  I guess I won't, however I think it was basically saying how for example the SWAP space won't be encrypted, so things won't be that secure
[23:45] <pumpy> sebsebseb: I don't think you know about ubuntu LVM LUKS encryption, do you?
[23:45] <pumpy> swap is encrypted
[23:45] <Richiie> Anyone here knows where the Option in Amsn for Embed webcam in Chat windows is ?
[23:45] <sebsebseb> pumpy: no not much if anything really, however this article sure did
[23:45] <eric0wens> any masterminds?
[23:45] <khafra> delemi: lenny/sid, no version of usb-creator that I can see anywhere
[23:45] <vinpan> i have 3 computers, one xp one win 7 and my laptop ubuntu ( file sharing ) i can get into the xp computer ( files show ) but the win 7 ( no files show ), what can i do?
[23:45] <Richiie> i cant find the option, to embed webcam in chat windows for Amsn is, anyone has a clue ?
[23:45] <Scunizi> eric0wens: just ask a question
[23:45] <acicula> pumpy, the minimal netloads the debian-installer which lets you create fde volumes
[23:45] <delemi> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/all/usb-creator/download
[23:45] <sebsebseb> pumpy: let's see if I can find it
[23:46] <kip> Seb: running a new release has a minimal risk
[23:46] <delemi> khafra: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/all/usb-creator/download\
[23:46] <Guest40262> vinpan, what error do you get on the Win7 machine?
[23:46] <pumpy> acicula: fde volumes?
[23:46] <khafra> delemi: Thanks, hope that works
[23:46] <sebsebseb> pumpy: ok that was easy, and it's about the problems with full disk encryption
[23:46] <FeasibilityStudy> How can I change the system over from etric to Imperial?
[23:46] <FeasibilityStudy> metric*
[23:46] <acicula> pumpy, full disk encryption, what you were after
[23:46] <delemi> khafra: do what I can for you, hope it works
[23:46] <acicula> pumpy, well full volume encryption anyway
[23:46] <pumpy> sebsebseb: where is the link?
[23:46] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[23:47] <vinpan> well its no a error i can get in to the computer it shows for some reason it dose not show and pictures or files
[23:47] <Narya> what is the best music player if I want to organize my music collection...is it really rhythmbox?
[23:47] <KaOSoFt> I was checking this HOWTO, and though it's exactly (mostly) what I was looking for, I want to know if there is a php5-fpm package which doesn't need the dotdeb packages: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-php-5.3-nginx-and-php-fpm-on-ubuntu-debian
[23:47] <Scunizi> Narya: it's entirely subjective.. however I use amorak
[23:47] <khafra> delemi: Dependency not satisfiable: python-central (even though I have python-central installed)
[23:47] <khafra> This sucks.  It won't even tell me what version I need.
[23:48] <delemi> KHAFRA: I will give you the list
[23:48] <lampe_> hey i got some problem my grub is mestup how can i reconfigure it ?
[23:48] <vinpan> should i run samba anyway?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> pumpy: Why you want to do that anyway?
[23:48] <Narya> Scunizi: I liked the looks of Amarok but it wouldnt play any of my damn music
[23:48] <Scunizi> khafra: taking a guess here but you might need a symlink to another location for the program to see it.
[23:48] <pumpy> sebsebseb: where is the link?
[23:48] <Scunizi> Narya: what format?
[23:48] <sebsebseb> pumpy: http://www.stealth-x.com/articles/the-problems-with-full-disk-encryption.php
[23:48] <Narya> Scunizi: mp3, but I have the restricted-extras
[23:48] <donri> Can I have dual monitors with compiz? Ubuntu Lucid, ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[23:48] <modalon> lampe_:grub-probe grub-install /dev/xxx
[23:48] <Guest40262> vinpan, you likely need to specify the users to share the files too
[23:49] <delemi> khafra: email address for screen shot
[23:49] <Scunizi> Narya: restricted-extras from the medibuntu repo's?  you may need to get it there.
[23:49] <vinpan> now on the xp it shows everything
[23:49] <Guest40262> vinpan, did you set up home groups on 7?
[23:49] <Narya> Scunizi: I can play my music just fine in Audacious
[23:49] <pumpy> sebsebseb: thanks, i apprecicate it
[23:49] <vinpan> ya file sharing is enabled on it
[23:49] <GeekSquid> donri: nope, I have that card and I can tell you once you enable the second monitor compiz will not work, unless you have it setup to mirror screens
[23:50] <Guest40262> vinpan, also, when replying please use my nick for reference thanks
[23:50] <Tapout> I upgraded ubuntu and now I have a grub recovery screen.. is this common enough that ya'll have steps on how to fix it?
[23:50] <Scunizi> Narya: that's weird.. I have no issues with amorak and mp3.. but I'm still on 9.10
[23:50] <vinpan> how?
[23:50] <Guest40262> type the portion of my name and use tab
[23:50] <sebsebseb> pumpy: ok no problem,  however I hope you don't want to full disk encrypt,  since data that you shoudn't have on there at all.
[23:50] <donri> GeekSquid: I have the same, but I'm wondering if there's something one can do about it (like xinerama or whatever).
[23:50] <Scunizi> Tapout: did you upgrade from 9.10 and was that upgraded from 9.04 etc?  trying to find out ifyou have grub2 or 1 installed.
[23:51] <Sereph> i just installed ubuntu 10.04 and activated the driver for the nvidia gpu, now the resolution is lower than it was before i activated the driver
[23:51] <joeseph> hello!
[23:51] <pumpy> sebsebseb: I didn't understand that
[23:51] <Sereph> !hello | joeseph
[23:51] <leo_> test
[23:51] <Scunizi> Sereph: did you check in System>Preferences>resolution to see if you could bump it up?
[23:51] <leo_> join/ #ubuntu-fr
[23:52] <Tapout> Scunizi, I upgraded from 9.10 i think, i was always current to the latest
[23:52] <Tapout> so .. 9.11
[23:52] <Tapout> 9.10
[23:52] <bobby> hi, trying to install u on an hp laptop, partitions are hp tools / main drive / recovery / hp media. i've shrunk the main partition but the u installer only sees all the partitions after the main partition as one big partition - why?
[23:52] <Sereph> Scunizi: i see no resolution option
[23:52] <joeseph> I just finished setting up dual boot with win 7 and Ubuntu
[23:52] <lampe_> grub is installing and installing but nothing happends its just blinking
[23:52] <Scunizi> !grub2 | Tapout  this is the best I can do.
[23:52] <GeekSquid> donri: I have tried, ... major limitation of cheap video cards, I don't see a way to get dual vid + 3D/OpenGL working on the 200m
[23:53] <AcolyteVersion1> With samba, I've got an NMBLookup that can resolve a hostname, but when I try to do the actual mount, it I get an error saying it can't resolve the hostname.  Any ideas?  Sorry, is may be evident, I'm pretty new to Samba and trying to make Linux and Windows play nicely together.
[23:53] <bobby> new laptop so i don't want to remove the hp partitions just yet - any ideas?
[23:53] <Scunizi> Sereph: first after activating the nvidia drivers did you logout or reboot?  if so you might want to install nvidia-settings
[23:53] <Sereph> Scunizi: i rebooted and it is installed.
[23:53] <ExceptionIO> Sereph: You should open the nvidia-settings program, by pressing ALT+F2 and writing gksudo nvidia-settings
[23:53] <ExceptionIO> Sereph: gksu nvidia-settings
[23:54] <oly562> how can i install a kde program using gnome and not load the entire KDE suite or desktop programs? i just want one program.
[23:54] <kevr> grub2 is just horrible
[23:54] <kevr> absolutely horrible
[23:54] <oly562> from aptitude
[23:54] <Scunizi> oly562: just install the program.. it will only install the dependancies it needs to run..
[23:54] <aliendude3500> hey guys... mind helping me with a quick question -- I have no sound when playing Osmos Demo or World of Padman. I think both games use OpenAL. I have a 5.1 surround sound speaker setup if that matters. I can hear sound in almost everything, but I think certain programs haven't been playing sound ever since Ubuntu transitioned to pulseaudio. Any ideas?
[23:54] <Sereph> ExceptionIO: every time i click inside that it moves around making it impossible to click on any buttons
[23:54] <kevr> oly562> the program will use kde engine, but not the de
[23:54] <oly562> Scunizi: last time i did that it loaded the entire kde env
[23:54] <Telvana> How well does Ubuntu One work as a file backup? I have about 25gb of files to backup. Is it fast, reliable, and easy to use? I have read around for reviews, but it seems everyone is reviewing the free 2gb setup.
[23:55] <Scunizi> oly562: it does load a lot.. but not the entire stack
[23:55] <ExceptionIO> Sereph: inside what? the nvidia-settings ?
[23:55] <Sereph> ExceptionIO: yes
[23:55] <Johnny_Smith_14> join/ #ubuntu-fr
[23:55] <oly562> Scunizi: hmm i dont trust it lol
[23:55] <Scunizi> oly562: what program do yo want?
[23:55] <kevr> oly562> why even use a kde proggy :P
[23:55] <oly562> alternative way? maybe goto the site and tar
[23:55] <aliendude3500> Johnny_Smith_14, try /join #ubuntu-fr ;)
[23:55] <kevr> there are many x/gnome progs to replace..
[23:56] <kevr> oly562> if you use the sites build..itll require the same things
[23:56] <oly562> kevr: no good equiv i see in apt-get that is better... more features so forth, gui driven
[23:56] <Sereph> !fr
[23:56] <Scunizi> oly562: you'll still be met with many dependancies
[23:56] <ktzqbp> Telvana: Ubuntu One's paid service is pretty expensive for what you get. perhaps consider getting a paid google apps account for google docs storage, and just store as a gzip?
[23:56] <kevr> just because its a package vs source doesnt change it
[23:56] <oly562> kerv: not just the libs?
[23:56] <kevr> oly562> oh, gui guy.
[23:56] <kevr> nevermind.
[23:56] <Danacrine> how you change your nick name
[23:56] <ExceptionIO> oly562: depends on which program do you need
[23:56] <Scunizi> oly562: what program?
[23:56] <kevr> the libs yes, but itll also build what you need
[23:56] <oly562> sniffer
[23:56] <kevr> yeah it really depends on the prog.
[23:56] <Sereph> Danacrine: /nick newnick
[23:56] <oly562> for wireless
[23:56] <brontosaurusrexw> Danacrine: /nick iLikeMyNewNick
[23:56] <kevr> there are great sniffers, non-kde..
[23:57] <kevr> my personal favorite: ssh <IP_ADDRESS>, cat /var/log/messages
[23:57] <oly562> kevr: id like to try this one, but not kde
[23:57] <aliendude3500> Anyone have any idea how to fix my audio problem? :/
[23:57] <kevr> :D
[23:57] <Scunizi> oly562: is that kuberios or something similar?
[23:57] <Narya> anyone know of a reason that audacious would play my mp3s but amarok wouldnt?
[23:57] <Andrew12> Johnny_Smith_14: you got that backwards. it's /join ;)
[23:57] <oly562> kevr:  not a gui only guy ;)
[23:57] <Telvana> ktzqbp: I had considered using that, but it seems that Ubuntu One does have some nice features ... what scares me is the fact that some of those features are currently not working.
[23:57] <bobby> btw, just hating the new theme to ubuntu
[23:57] <mfox> oly562: use aircrack or kismet for sniffing WiFi
[23:57] <kevr> oly562> there was a program i had that was a cli sniffer with ncurses, it was completely awesome
[23:57] <SDonatas> Hi everyone, maybe someone can help me out a bit. I accidently removed one of the couchDB desktop keys and my evolution contacts sync stopped working, it returns message - ...wrong server or wrong URI
[23:57] <mfox> oly562: more advanced :)
[23:57] <Scunizi> oly562: kismet was what I was thinking
[23:57] <bobby> it's awful, and what's with the icons on the left for windows. way to go for confusing your users
[23:57] <sebsebseb> bobby: yes I don't like them much either myself the black or grey, luckily human can still be installed from the repo :)
[23:57] <ExceptionIO> bobby: everybody could say the same thing about anything they imagine
[23:57] <kevr> mfox> i think he meants network sniffer..for the packets going in and out
[23:58] <GeekSquid> Narya: amarok uses the xine engine, where as audacious uses gstreamer... install xine libs
[23:58] <kevr> not to crack keys.
[23:58] <sebsebseb> !controls | bobby
[23:58] <Narya> GeekSquid: thanks!
[23:58] <oly562> Scunizi: yah i want to use kismet
[23:58] <Scunizi> Tapout: did you upgrade from 9.10 and was that upgraded from 9.04 etc?  trying to find out ifyou have grub2 or 1 installed.
[23:58] <triptych> sereph ------ thanks
[23:58] <Telvana> sebsebseb: Believe it or not the new theme is kinda growing on me ...
[23:58] <oly562> i used to use it for other things on freebsd
[23:58] <aliendude3500> When trying to start audio, Osmos displays "bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)" in my terminal, what can I do to fix this?
[23:58] <sebsebseb> bobby: loads of people complained when they moved the icons to the left, there's a famous bug thread on launchpad,  what's worse in an odd order.   They were also going to do it for all themes which is even worse, but then it was decided only for the two new Canoncial themes.
[23:58] <bobby> sebsebseb: i'm just saying after going with the right for so long they shouldn't just be moved to the left by defaykt
[23:58] <Scunizi> oly562: having the kde libs won't hurt your system
[23:58] <bobby> default
[23:58] <oly562> Scunizi: no, not kuberios
[23:58] <sebsebseb> bobby: indeed at  that
[23:58] <mfox> kevr: but i thought he said sniffer for wireless !
[23:58] <Narya> Geeksquid: where could I find those? just google and go from there?
[23:58] <oly562> swscanner
[23:59] <kevr> mfox... what ur talking about is not sniffing
[23:59] <sebsebseb> bobby: unless they have a proper reason to, and no  that Shuttleworth wants to do some Gnome editing in 10.10 where the buttons should be, is not a good enough reason to do it already in 10.04
[23:59] <kevr> it's challenging and cracking
[23:59] <Telvana> I think there was a term command you could use to force the buttons back onto the right again.
[23:59] <mfox> kevr: so he/she could use wireshark anyway
[23:59] <ExceptionIO> bobby: You can customize to what you like, this is linux!
[23:59] <GeekSquid> Narya: Synaptic Package Manager in System > Admin
[23:59] <Loshki> I notice that I have daemons named jfsIO, jfsCommit and jfsSync running. Nothing in init.d seems to start them. Anyone know what they are and where they came from?
[23:59] <kevr> yeah
[23:59] <kevr> oly562> tryout wireshark
[23:59] <Narya> Geeksquid: thanks
[23:59] <kevr> thats the prog i was lookin for
[23:59] <kevr> :)
[23:59] <kevr> thank mfox for that
[23:59] <FloodBot4> kevr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <oly562> Scunizi: i dont like having extra fat
[23:59] <bobby> sebsebseb: so what are you saying? are they goign back to the right?
[23:59] <mfox> kevr: your welcome
[23:59] <bobby> it doesn't feel like gnome / ubuntu any more
[23:59] <oly562> Scunizi: and actually it might


[12:52] <lifeless> I read 'kikones as cojones' ewww.
[12:53] <kiko-afk> dude
[12:53] <kiko-afk> that was horrible
[12:54] <lifeless> I know


[11:26] <cjwatson> Could somebody pull the branch lp:~kamion/hildon-1/ubuntu into lp:~ubuntu-mobile/hildon-1/ubuntu, please? It matches an upload I made to fix libhildonhelp's failure to build on armel
[11:28]  * ogra saw that message but was assuming it had happened within the last 12h
[11:28] <cjwatson> doesn't seem to have done
[11:29] <ogra> no, obviously
[11:32] <ogra> pushed
[11:39] <cjwatson> ditto, lp:~kamion/hildon-thumbnail/ubuntu into lp:~ubuntu-mobile/hildon-thumbnail/ubuntu, please
[11:39] <cjwatson> (thanks)
[11:47] <ogra> will do ...
[11:48]  * ogra sighs that all these branches are called ubuntu
[11:53] <ogra> done
[12:47] <lool> cjwatson: thanks for the fixes