[06:38] <thevenin> VigoFuse, that page is how to install the perfect server in edgy eft, i have read it good article but dosnt mention anything about downgrading
[06:38] <sizzam> chadswill: why aren't you able to point vmware to the ISO?
[06:39] <AlanHaggai> wastrel : I tried host www.google.com. At first it replied immediately. But when I tried again, it didn't
[06:39] <variant> thevenin: why would it? if it is perfect setup :)
[06:39] <shini`> wastrel, is that the exact package name, and is it available from the repositories do you know?
[06:39] <lnxkde> monodevelop is working on ubuntu edgy>
[06:39] <thevenin> didnt you notice what i was askin to do though
[06:39] <wastrel> AlanHaggai:  maybe try different DNS servers if you can.  It seems like they are not responding well
[06:39] <wastrel> !info vim-full
[06:39] <ubotu> vim-full: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - full fledged version. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 913 kB, installed size 1860 kB
[06:39] <shini`> <33
[06:40] <AlanHaggai> wastrel : which DNS should I try. I have specified both the numbers that my ISP has given
[06:40] <VigoFuse> Oh, my apologies, tgo downgrade toast,unistall old, install what you wanted, or that is what I was taught.
[06:40] <Mitrovarr> jordan:  I need to fix an already installed system, not install a new one... is there a different guide for that?
[06:40] <shini`> ubotu, thanks
[06:40] <ubotu> Thanks for the help!
[06:40] <scamboy> !find vim-full
[06:40] <ubotu> Found: vim-full
[06:40] <shini`> er
[06:40] <shini`> bot :)
[06:40] <thevenin> yes i want to downgrade
[06:40] <variant> !downgrade
[06:40] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[06:40] <shini`> is the new vim on the dapper repos?
[06:40] <wastrel> AlanHaggai:  call your ISP :]    i don't know any public dnsmachines.
[06:40] <thevenin> was hoping it would be easier/quicker to do it from edgy eft and not just reinstall
[06:40] <thevenin> thanks
[06:40] <wastrel> vim in dapper is full version by default i believe.
[06:40] <thevenin> damn
[06:40] <Mitrovarr> jordan:  The computer used to be pure ubuntu, but now it's going to be ubuntu/winxp with winxp being on another drive I'm adding (which will change the ubuntu drive to hdb)
[06:40] <variant> !downgrade | thevenin
[06:40] <ubotu> thevenin: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[06:40] <wastrel> dunno about 'new'
[06:41] <shini`> yeah i'm running dapper now with vim 6.xx
[06:41] <VigoFuse> Download what you want now, then look up the Unistall/Remove thingy, then downgrade
[06:41] <AlanHaggai> wastrel : thanks. Also I would like to know if it is Ubuntu's DNS (cache) or something else (I don't know) causing the problem?
[06:41] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: Microsoft's DNS servers are <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:41] <scamboy> !upgrade
[06:41] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[06:41] <shini`> wastrel, vim 7 has bracket matching :)
[06:41] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: they usually work fine
[06:41] <wastrel> shini`:  it sure does :q
[06:41] <AlanHaggai> thanks sizzam :)
[06:41] <sizzam> no problem
[06:41] <AlanHaggai> thanks wastrel :)
[06:42] <jordan> Mitrovarr: Ok, the only thing you may need to do it reconfigure grub.
[06:42] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: or Earthlink DNS - <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:42] <AlanHaggai> thanks :)
[06:42] <Mitrovarr> jordan: the problem is that with the windows drive in, I can't boot into linux.  Without it, I can't install the bootloader (also I don't know if they fixed this but putting grub on used to break winxp)
[06:42] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : should I need to restart my connection so that this changed DNS will be used?
[06:43] <chadswill> sigh..dont see what im am doing wrong, variant :/
[06:43] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: i think you might have to stop and start it, but im not sure on that one
[06:43] <cherubiel> !grub | Mitrovarr
[06:43] <ubotu> Mitrovarr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:43] <VigoFuse> I am on a Windows based ISP, so far the tek says NO LINUX, I hope to prove him wrong./g
[06:43] <Mitrovarr> ah, there we go
[06:43] <AlanHaggai> ok sizzam :)
[06:43] <jordan> Mitrovarr: Using grub should not break windows.
[06:43] <bony> there is a problem with mysql-server-5.0 it simply refuses to start, there is a but report filed on this topic. is there any other alternative for time being till the bug is fixed?
[06:43] <Mitrovarr> it sure used to
[06:43] <bony> oops its bug report not but report
[06:44] <Mitrovarr> used to be that windows bootloader absolutely had to be on the mbr of the first hard drive
[06:44] <nalioth> bony: ask in #mysql for possibly better info
[06:44] <bony> nalioth, its a ubuntu specific problem cause when i upgrade my system from dapper to edgy i got this problem
[06:45] <shini`> time for bed, night all
[06:45] <bony> nalioth, and even in ubuntu its E64 specific
[06:45] <jordan> Mitrovarr: I don't use windows, but I don't think that is the case anymore.
[06:45] <Mitrovarr> jordan:  alright, I'll try just using grub.  If it breaks windows I know how to fix that already
[06:45] <Dowey> ya i still can't burn with k3b it says it cant find a suitable device
[06:45] <Mitrovarr> jordan:  Thanks!
[06:46] <Lone> does anybody a good and big p2p network (read: illegal music downloading service) for linux?
[06:46] <sizzam> Lone:  i think some people use Frostwire, which is a Limewire clone
[06:46] <nalioth> Lone: we don't condone illegal activities here
[06:46] <chadswill> i did sudo mkdir /mnt/fakecdrom      and      sudo mount -o /home/chad/Torrentz/xxxxx.iso /mnt/fakecdrom
[06:46] <nalioth> sizzam: ^^^
[06:46] <sizzam> nalioth: got it
[06:47] <MrObvious> I need a newer version of gettext.
[06:47] <MrObvious> I'm trying to compile E17 and it needs at least 14.6
[06:47] <sizzam> chadswill: why can't you just choose the ISO in vmware, what happens?
[06:47] <MrObvious> (Dapper only comes with 14.5)
[06:47] <seshomaru123> hi , i intstalled easycam2 today and since then i cannot use synaptic ,apt or aptitude, it keeps saying that another application is running even after i log out and in
[06:48] <_paulb> dhcpd will not start how do i figure out the problem?
[06:49] <Dowey> how can i get k3b to find the burning device it needs
[06:49] <jordan> seshomaru123: Is dpkg running?
[06:49] <VigoFuse> May try to install tonight, still ifish cause of the warranty thing.
[06:50] <seshomaru123> jordan, i dont think so , i just logged out and in and still get the same message
[06:51] <_paulb> how would i check the error output for dhcpd not starting?
[06:51] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : still there is a small problem while resolving names :(
[06:51] <jordan> seshomaru123: Check with: pgrep dpkg
[06:51] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: what address are you trying to get to
[06:51] <nalioth> seshomaru123: ps aux|grep [dpkg|apt-get]
[06:52] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : I tried www.cmyip.com
[06:52] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : At first it took time to resolve. But the next time, it was fast
[06:52] <jordan> nalioth: pgrep is easier to type ;)
[06:52] <Dowey> when i try to mound my cd drive another error "mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[06:52] <Dowey> "
[06:52] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: same for me, i just did ping www.cmyip.com,   it paused for like 5 seconds, then started returning
[06:53] <MrObvious> How can I get a new version of gettext than 0.14.5? Do I need to compile from the source?
[06:53] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : maybe it's cmyip.com's problem
[06:53] <scamboy> !edgyfinal
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgyfinal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <sizzam> AlanHaggai:   ping www.yahoo.com    should be instant
[06:53] <jordan> scamboy: Edgy is already final.
[06:53] <manfred22> where to find irc proxy??
[06:53] <wastrel> !info gettext
[06:53] <ubotu> gettext: GNU Internationalization utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 0.15-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1293 kB, installed size 5836 kB
[06:54] <MrObvious> wastrel: I have dapper
[06:54] <MrObvious> wastrel: Can I try the Edgy app?
[06:54] <manfred22> where to find irc proxy??
[06:54] <jordan> !info gettext dapper
[06:54] <ubotu> gettext: GNU Internationalization utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.5-2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1121 kB, installed size 5344 kB
[06:54] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : fast. But taking 333ms or so time
[06:54] <wastrel> MrObvious:  i imagine it is possible but i don't know how.
[06:54] <MrObvious> E17 requires 0.14.6 now
[06:55] <scamboy> jordan: i am afraid to upgrade...coz if anything goes WRONG...my windows will also be effected....
[06:55] <MrObvious> I could compile from source but I don't know if that's a good idea with deb management.
[06:55] <seshomaru123> jordan , dpkg and apt-get are not running
[06:55] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: mine take about 31ms each
[06:55] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : why much delay for me?
[06:55] <jordan> scamboy: There is verry little chance that upgrading will break windows.
[06:56] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: not sure, you can try tracepath www.yahoo.com
[06:56] <scamboy> jordan: but will break grub>:o
[06:56] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: that shows you the times for each hop along the way
[06:56] <MrObvious> Is there a way to compile a deb from source?
[06:56] <AlanHaggai> ok sizzam
[06:56] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: keep in mind that many web servers don't allow pings at all
[06:56] <Dowey> it seems like my computer cant detect any sort of burner
[06:56] <wastrel> tracepath eh
[06:56] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : oh I see
[06:56] <nalioth> !tell MrObvious about checkinstall
[06:56] <wastrel> what happened to traceroute
[06:56] <c_lisp> beryl owns
[06:57] <sizzam> wastrel: thats what I was looking for,  i have traceroute6
[06:57] <sizzam> wastrel: but no traceroute or tracert
[06:57] <rihui> hi
[06:57] <jordan> scamboy: If it does, you can use the Ubuntu liveCD to restor grub, or the windows install CD to restore the windows bootloader.
[06:57] <Dowey> what is trace path
[06:57] <sizzam> i think its a traceroute utility
[06:58] <scamboy> jordan: is it??? ubuntu use LIVECD laa..ok....i will update in 3 hours....wish me luck...willll be backk......
[06:58] <jordan> scamboy: wait, one thing
[07:00] <jordan> scamboy: A lot of tuturials wrongly say to upgrade by changing your sources.list, don't. to upgrade run: gksu "update-manager -c"
[07:01] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : my browser mostly waits at 'waiting for reply'
[07:01] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: what kind of internet connection do you have?
[07:01] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : only after some time does it transfer the data
[07:01] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : DSL
[07:01] <AlanHaggai> 256 kbps
[07:02] <manfred22> damn small linux is cool
[07:02] <manfred22> it starts out of win!!
[07:02] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : it was all ok till last week
[07:02] <jordan> AlanHaggai: Does ping work at normall speed?
[07:02] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: have you reported the problem to your phone company?
[07:02] <rihui> hi
[07:02] <sizzam> jordan: his pings are taking like 300ms each for yahoo
[07:02] <rihui> i have a question
[07:02] <AlanHaggai> no jordan, the ping is slow
[07:02] <rihui> how do i enter console, without starting x
[07:03] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : I haven't phoned them yet. I wanted to make sure that my side and my PC is correct
[07:03] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : what do you say?
[07:03] <rihui> i need to install something through console, and x cannot be started
[07:03] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: I can't think of anything in your setup that would cause that
[07:04] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : so it is the problem with the ISP. Right?
[07:04] <scamboy> jordan: why??
[07:04] <sizzam> rihui:  control+alt+F1 will take you to a console
[07:04] <rihui> i know
[07:04] <rihui> but how do i kill x
[07:04] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: perhaps, maybe a line noise issue or something as well
[07:04] <rihui> the installer won't let me install when x is running
[07:04] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : I see :(
[07:04] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: have there been any storms or strong winds where you live?
[07:04] <nomad111> hey all i have ubuntu (gnome) and xubuntu how do i remove the xubuntu stuff
[07:04] <nomad111> ?
[07:05] <jordan> scamboy: dist-upgrading to Edgy will break your system, it is not the correct way to upgrade.
[07:05] <sizzam> nomad111: sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[07:05] <Stoney47> evening yall, anyone here have any experience with 3dfx vid cards?
[07:05] <jordan> sizzam: I think that is just a meta-package.
[07:06] <manfred22> that is just a meta-package.
[07:06] <rihui> anybody can tell me how to start ubuntu with terminal only, without x r unning
[07:06] <sizzam> my bad
[07:06] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : there was heavy storm and lightning last week
[07:06] <nomad111> sizzam, it turned out to be autoremove
[07:06] <ixian_> isnt 'recovery mode' just the terminal?
[07:06] <factotum> rihui: might be able to change your runlevel at bootup
[07:06] <jordan> nomad111: sudo apt-get autoremove xubuntu-desktop ( if you are using Edgy )
[07:06] <sizzam> rihui:   are you able to do a ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[07:06] <nomad111> ye
[07:06] <nomad111> jordan, thx jordan
[07:06] <rihui> yes
[07:06] <jordan> nomad111: np
[07:07] <rihui> i get into a console when i pressed ctrl alt f1
[07:07] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: maybe they have you routed differently now due to the storm or something, who knows.   i would definitely report the issue to them though and go from there
[07:07] <rihui> but x is still running
[07:07] <rihui> isn't it?
[07:07] <sizzam> rihui: it is, what do you want to do from the console?
[07:07] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : I see. So, what should I call them and tell?
[07:07] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: that you are experiencing latency.  they'll start having you run tests from there
[07:07] <rihui> install binary drivers for nvidia
[07:08] <rihui> i use the driver from nvidia website
[07:08] <AlanHaggai> sizzam : what is latency?
[07:08] <sizzam> AlanHaggai: latency = slowness
[07:08] <jStefan> rihui, it's a lot easier to install the ones on the repositories
[07:08] <rihui> the driver in repository doesn't work
[07:08] <james296> WHY AM i UNABLE TO INSTALL ut 2004 USING THE LINUX INSTALLER ON THE cd???
[07:08] <rihui> at least for me
[07:08] <james296> sorry caps lock was enabled
[07:08] <jordan> AlanHaggai: Or more precicesly, lateness.
[07:08] <jStefan> rihui, you have to enable them after installing them
[07:08] <rihui> i know
[07:08] <rihui> i followed everything in the wiki
[07:08] <rihui> but it still don't work
[07:08] <rihui> lol
[07:09] <jStefan> rihui, do you get an error?
[07:09] <sizzam> i'd go with latency ;-)
[07:09] <AlanHaggai> thanks sizzam and jordan and wastrel for the amazing help rendered to this newbie. :) Lots of aprreciations :)
[07:09] <sizzam> 1) In a network, latency, a synonym for delay , is an expression of how much time it takes for a packet of data to get from one designated point to another.
[07:09] <rihui> yea
[07:09] <nomad111> jordan, i managed to uninstall the xfce stuff but i still have the xubuntu login screen i want to go back to the ubuntu login screen
[07:09] <james296> well?
[07:10] <c_lisp> I can't delete the fileshare from shared folders
[07:10] <rihui> i have forgotten the error message said.
[07:10] <c_lisp> but doesn't show up as a smb when connecting to the server
[07:10] <c_lisp> whys tghat
[07:10] <jordan> nomad111: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:10] <raxxerk> hi all
[07:10] <sizzam> nomad111: can you select it if you go System > Adminstration > Login Window
[07:10] <Lone> how long have y'all been linux users?
[07:11] <jordan> nomad111: Never mind, do what sizzam said
[07:11] <wastrel> Lone:  we love ya baby but that's offtopic for a support chan  -try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:11] <nomad111> oooh i just noticed i was in that menu the second u mentioned it sorry about that
[07:11] <raxxerk> anyone knows how to fix dhcp issues at boot? i have to go to System->Administration->Network and uncheck, check the connetction to get it live again
[07:14] <jordan> raxxerk, I can tell you one way to do it, but I know there exists a better way than mine.
[07:15] <raxxerk> by the way this installation belongs from edgy beta2, i don't know if it can hel
[07:15] <raxxerk> help*
[07:16] <aidanr> hi, i'm running update manager on 6.10 with the beta nvidia drivers 1.0-9625, and the update manger gives me 2 updates, linux-restricted-modules-common and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic, but it wants me to dist-upgrade to install the second one, also the decription says *updated nvidia driver to version 8776, is it safe to dist-upgrade and install these?
[07:16] <variant> http://www.itpro.co.uk/news/97145/lenovo-sceptical-about-vista.html
[07:16] <jordan> raxxerk: I will tell you my way, it can't hurt anything and is easy to undo.
[07:16] <raxxerk> ok :D
[07:16] <raxxerk> im ready to set ip manually if something goes wrong
[07:17] <jordan> raxxerk: Go to Preferences -> sessions
[07:17] <raxxerk> done
[07:17] <strav> hi there. I'm using a wireless connection from my college which use a password/username authentification. (I don't know which kind of key is used) From the network connection manager, I dont't have any field for user/passm where should I configure this (with iwconfig?)
[07:17] <GigaClon> most of that is done from a website
[07:18] <jordan> raxxerk: What interface is it?
[07:18] <GigaClon> just connect to the point then open a browser and see
[07:19] <raxxerk> realtek 8139
[07:19] <raxxerk> loaded via realtek 8139cp
[07:19] <raxxerk> via = with sry x english :D
[07:20] <jordan> raxxerk: In the startup programs tab, add the command : gksu "ifdown -a && ifup -a"
[07:20] <DavidtheAspie> Hi!
[07:20] <raxxerk> jordan, that will require authentication or i'm wrong?
[07:20] <lasindi_office> Hi everyone, I'm trying to set up an HP DeskJet 420 connected to the parallel port, and I'm using System->Administration->Printing in the menu to configure this. It isn't detected automatically, but I can get it half working by specifying LPT#1. If I try printing a test page, however, it will print gibberish.
[07:21] <jordan> raxxerk: Yes, that will ask you your password every time you log in.
[07:21] <lasindi_office> I'm also using a black and white cartridge, but my configuration on the color doesn't appear to matter
[07:21] <DavidtheAspie> I have a Sony Vaio VGN-FJ290 laptop with a QWERTY keyboard with 88 keys
[07:21] <lasindi_office> *in terms of it failing
[07:21] <progek> can someone please help me with tomcat? I installed it and started it. It gave me an 'OK' so I know tomcat is running. When I localhost:8080 I get a blank screen :/
[07:22] <jordan> raxxerk: Hence why it isn't an ideal solution.
[07:22] <raxxerk> jordan, thx for the trick
[07:22] <c_lisp> is there a program to record linux desktop session in a video?
[07:22] <DavidtheAspie> However, my keyboard settings are US International with Dead Keys
[07:22] <duane> has flash 9 beta been updated at all lately?
[07:22] <manfred22> do you think you are funny?
[07:25] <witless> am i the only one whose nvidia card was hosed by a recent update?
[07:25] <Abnerian> Ugh, I need help.
[07:25] <Abnerian> Badly.
[07:25] <wastrel> do tell
[07:25] <Abnerian> I am trying to install a LiveCD to my USB pen drive.
[07:25] <Abnerian> And I just can't manage.
[07:25] <Abnerian> I'm on Windows.
[07:25] <manfred22> do you think you are funny?
[07:26] <jordan> manfred22: Who?
[07:26] <manfred22> you?
[07:26] <wastrel> manfred22:  i crack the occasional joke
[07:26] <Abnerian> Can someone help me? I don't want a persistent install.
[07:26] <Abnerian> I just want a bootable USB stick.
[07:26] <Abnerian> I really don't care if I can save data to it
[07:26] <wastrel> Abnerian:  i sure don't know about usb pen drives but doesn't flash have a limited # of write cycles
[07:26] <Abnerian> it just needs to function exactly as a live CD
[07:26] <duane> has flash 9 beta been updated at all lately?
[07:27] <jordan> Abnerian: I am the guy who talked to you about that before :) looking for a link with windows instructions...
[07:27] <raxxerk> jordan, there is a way to postpone the command a few seconds after boot?
[07:27] <SiCuTDeUx> Abnerian: i dont think that can be done with ubuntu
[07:27] <SiCuTDeUx> anyway
[07:27] <SiCuTDeUx> Abnerian: better start looking for a distro ready for it
[07:27] <manfred22> do you think you are funny?
[07:27] <Abnerian> I want Ubuntu to go from USB --> HDD
[07:27] <jordan> raxxerk: Yes...
[07:27] <SiCuTDeUx> Abnerian: like puppy linux or DSL
[07:28] <Abnerian> it's a two gig drive
[07:28] <witless> i installed the latest update and now X won't boot.  it says there is an nvidia kernel mismatch
[07:28] <Abnerian> I know Ubuntu is bootable from a USB drive
[07:28] <manfred22> no
[07:28] <manfred22> it isnt
[07:28] <DavidtheAspie> I have a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection for my wireless connection.
[07:28] <Abnerian> the LiveCD is.
[07:28] <raxxerk> i mean adding a sort of sleep command
[07:28] <jordan> raxxerk:  gksu "sleep <insert time to wait in seconds here> &&ifdown -a && ifup -a"
[07:28] <DavidtheAspie> Is there a pre-compiled driver that i can install?
[07:28] <zugu> hello
[07:28] <Abnerian> Anyone? Anybody at all?
[07:29] <raxxerk> thx again jordan
[07:29] <jordan> Abnerian: I am the guy who talked to you about that before :) looking for a link with windows instructions...
[07:29] <BlueEagle> abnerian: Have you tried simply installing to the USB stick?
[07:29] <Abnerian> I'm not sure how, BlueEagle.
[07:29] <wastrel> DavidtheAspie:  ipw2200 should handle that
[07:29] <Madpilot> Abnerian, check help.ubuntu.com/community - there's an install from USBstick somewhere on there
[07:29] <Abnerian> I did, it's not helping.
[07:29] <zugu> I just installed the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers, but when I run  nvidia-glx-config enable it says: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:29] <zugu> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:29] <Abnerian> I'm utterly confused.
[07:29] <Abnerian> It's a bunch of BASH.
[07:29] <wastrel> DavidtheAspie:  i have that card works perfectly with default ubuntu kernel
[07:29] <Abnerian> Which I don't speak
[07:30] <BlueEagle> abnerian: the usb stick would be /dev/sda probably. However you might need the alternate install ISO to be able to specify such a device. Not sure if the livecd will allow it.
[07:30] <witless> zugu: i have the same thing, but not with legacy drivers.
[07:30] <Abnerian> I am on Windows.
[07:30] <BlueEagle> !enter
[07:30] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:30] <draco79> anyone good a wireless in here maybe some is came in this room that has not heard me yet
[07:30] <zugu> witless, it dries me nuts
[07:30] <DavidtheAspie> wastrel: I got that, but how do I compile it?
[07:30] <witless> zugu: just happened with the latest update
[07:30] <zugu> witless, same here
[07:30] <wastrel> DavidtheAspie:  are you running the default ubuntu kernel?
[07:30] <zugu> wastrel, yes, the generic one
[07:31] <zugu> i think
[07:31] <DavidtheAspie> wastrel:  Yes.
[07:31] <witless> zugu: this smells a lot like the SNAFU a couple months ago with the update that broke X
[07:31] <jordan> Abnerian: If you don't mind PClinux: http://pendrivelinux.com/2006/09/19/all-in-one-usb-pclinuxos-minimezip/ is the iesiest tutorial I have seen for windows, they have made it almost effortless.
[07:31] <wastrel> DavidtheAspie:  sudo modprobe ipw2200   should get it running, though i don't know why it wouldn't have been running already
[07:31] <Abnerian> But...I want Ubuntu.
[07:31] <Abnerian> i don't want this on my USB stick
[07:32] <Abnerian> I want it on my hard drive
[07:32] <Abnerian> but
[07:32] <Abnerian> The only way to get it there is with a USB stick
[07:32] <Abnerian> see?
[07:32] <zugu> witless, actually, this is afresh install; I installed ubuntu last night and had the same problem, now I have xubuntu and nothing changed :(
[07:32] <witless> hmm
[07:32] <SiCuTDeUx> Abnerian: use a cd and install it
[07:32] <jordan> Abnerian: Ok, I remember now,
[07:32] <SiCuTDeUx> Abnerian: like every one does
[07:32] <Abnerian> I can't
[07:32] <jordan> SiCuTDeUx: His drive is broken
[07:32] <Abnerian> I have two laptops
[07:32] <SiCuTDeUx> oh ok.
[07:32] <Abnerian> Neither have optical drives
[07:33] <SiCuTDeUx> oh that sux
[07:33] <iami89> i have a question
[07:33] <SiCuTDeUx> Abnerian: may be googling arround
[07:33] <iami89> what is root password
[07:33] <draco79> now what is googling and the forums are no help
[07:34] <wastrel> Abnerian:  i recommend you become familiar enough with the command line to follow the instructions given - i doubt there's an easier way as this is a rather esoteric requiest
[07:34] <wastrel> !cli
[07:34] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:34] <Abnerian> i am on windows
[07:34] <zugu> witless, I have seen many people on the forums with the same problem, and everyone told them to manually replace "nv" with "nvidia" in xorg.conf, but doing that last night rendered my X useless
[07:34] <iami89> i've try follow the guide but no pass or user pass is not work
[07:34] <Abnerian> I have a single windows PC. I have no optical drives.
[07:34] <wastrel> !root | iami89
[07:34] <ubotu> iami89: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:34] <Abnerian> I have just windows and a USB drive.
[07:34] <Abnerian> JUST.
[07:34] <Abnerian> I cannot get any more equipment.
[07:35] <wastrel> Abnerian:  visit your local linux user group for help?
[07:35] <Abnerian> There is none.
[07:35] <Abnerian> I am in a rural area.
[07:35] <SiCuTDeUx> Abnerian: maybe this will help
[07:35] <iami89> what is root default pass
[07:35] <SiCuTDeUx> Abnerian: http://ianconnor.blogspot.com/2006/07/installing-ubuntu-on-dell-poweredge.html
[07:35] <zugu> I think I'll go for Dapper again, Edgy is too painless for me
[07:35] <witless> iami89: there is none - use sudo su
[07:35] <zugu> *painful
[07:35] <zugu> :)
[07:35] <wastrel> witless sudo -i  is better
[07:35] <iami89> can i add a other driver for ubuntu?
[07:35] <witless> ok
[07:35] <Abnerian> omg
[07:35] <Abnerian> THANK YOU
[07:36] <draco79> ok were can i find some help for a compaq v5201us laptop
[07:36] <iami89> how to do that
[07:36] <iami89> ??
[07:36] <Abnerian> *runs off to do that*
[07:36] <SiCuTDeUx> :D
[07:36] <witless> iami89: what are you tryint to do?
[07:36] <SiCuTDeUx> my first contribution to #ubuntu
[07:36] <SiCuTDeUx> yeeeii!!
[07:36] <SiCuTDeUx> woot!
[07:36] <draco79> lol
[07:37] <SiCuTDeUx> w00t
[07:37] <seeking2> when I play videos on youtube.com I dont get any sound!  tried firefox and opera!  No sound!  Whats wrong?  My sound works playing mp3 etc
[07:37] <Madpilot> iami89, there is no root pw. Use sudo & your own user pw
[07:37] <Madpilot> seeking2, known bug, it's a Flash sound issue
[07:37] <iami89> thank, i'll try
[07:37] <wastrel> seeking2:  follow the "flash troubleshooting" instructions on the restrictedformats wiki page
[07:37] <SiCuTDeUx> seeking2: install flash9
 how to set 32 bit color mode for ubuntu?
[07:38] <draco79> hmmm well i am proud thay i install flash plug in by myself but i am not stuck on my wireless card
[07:38] <iami89> my ATI card work on 24 bit is bad
[07:38] <seeking2> Madpilot: ahh ok!  any solution?
[07:38] <Madpilot> iami89, got the fglrx drivers for your ATI card?
[07:38] <seeking2> SiCuTDeUx: how do I install flash9?
[07:38] <iami89> where to get it?
[07:39] <seeking2> wastrel: url?
[07:39] <draco79> hey seeking
[07:39] <iami89> my card is ATI RADEON 7000 series
[07:39] <wastrel> !restricted | seeking2
[07:39] <ubotu> seeking2: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <draco79> you have to install it manuly
[07:39] <jordan> !flash9 | seeking2
[07:39] <ubotu> seeking2: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[07:39] <Madpilot> !ati | iami89
[07:39] <ubotu> iami89: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:39] <wastrel> !botabuse
[07:39] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[07:40] <wastrel> poor overworked ubotu
[07:40] <Sasuke> HEY
[07:40] <draco79> lol
[07:40] <dustin> in inkscape ahhh i can't find out how to make the mask work...   i am doing somehting wrong but i don't know what....
[07:40] <Madpilot> dustin, #inkscape
[07:40] <Madpilot> wastrel, the bot is the smartest thing in this channel, don't you know?
[07:40] <draco79> hmmmm how come i think i am just talking to myself in here
[07:40] <dustin> Madpilot, tried nothing
[07:41] <Sasuke> for my sound, i've installed all the codecs AND the windows codecs but yet i still get errors.....
[07:41] <iami89> but my card is ATI RADEON 7000 series and i cant find driver
[07:41] <iami89> !ati
[07:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <seeking2> jordan: whats it mean to (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy?
[07:41] <iami89> what's it
[07:42] <jordan> seeking2: Are you running dapper or Edgy?
[07:42] <seeking2> actually, the sounds from youtube videos now works in Opera
[07:42] <seeking2> jordan: Dapper!  but now the sounds from youtube videos now works in Opera
[07:42] <thyko> how do i TOTALLY uninstall a package and all recomended packages that came with it using aptitude?
[07:42] <seeking2> jordan: but they dont work in firefox
[07:43] <draco79> i got my sound working in firefox
[07:43] <jordan> http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ to install flash9 I still recommend it.
[07:43] <seeking2> jordan: why would it work in Opera and not Firefox?
[07:43] <thyko> any ideas?
[07:43] <Sasuke> !sounds
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <sh4d`> thyko: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[07:43] <Sasuke> !multimedia > Sasuke
[07:43] <SiCuTDeUx> thyko: aptitude remove --purge package
[07:43] <nomad111> hey again, how do i create link to files that are run as such:    ". file.sh"
[07:44] <seeking2> thyko: use apt-get remove
[07:44] <seeking2> thyko: and then the --purge switch
[07:44] <seeking2> sh4d`: autoremove???
[07:44] <sh4d`> yeah
[07:44] <iami89> i use ubuntu on same driver as windows and when i delete linux driver my windows cant start, how to fix ?
[07:44] <sh4d`> it'll remove recommanded packages too
[07:45] <iami89> how to install wine?
[07:45] <jordan> seeking2: I don't know, but flash7 is buggy and does sound in a way that makes it break if you try to play sound from another app at the same time, flash9 fixes these issues.
[07:45] <SiCuTDeUx> iami89: aptitude install wine
[07:45] <Sasuke> iami89, i did apt-get isntall wine
[07:45] <Sasuke> install*
[07:45] <Trentster> Hey all, I am using Ubuntu 6.10 with a core 2 duo system that unfortunately has the horribly supported JMicron controller, system was erratically unstable until I switched off jmicron in the bios, and now things are running super smoothly. I heard with kernel 2.6.19 there will be proper JMicron support, any ideas when this will be or if there is an interim solution?
[07:46] <wastrel> !cn | iami89
[07:46] <ubotu> iami89: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:47] <SiCuTDeUx> Trentster: compile your own kernel without JMicron support
[07:47] <witless> this console interface really shows off ubuntu nicely
[07:47] <seeking2> jordan: ok! I added seveas sources!  now i update and install new flash9?
[07:47] <SiCuTDeUx> maybe that would help a bit
[07:47] <jordan> seeking2: Yup.
[07:47] <seeking2> jordan: ok cheers big ears ;)
[07:47] <thyko> SiCuTDeUx: thanks
[07:47] <seeking2> jordan: what else can I download from seveas?
[07:48] <SiCuTDeUx> thyko: no, thank u for asking.
[07:48] <Trentster> SiCuTDeUx, what for? I allready dont have CDrom support as its dissabled in the kernel.
[07:48] <Trentster> I mean in the bios.
[07:48] <SiCuTDeUx> Trentster: oh... i wast just guessing :P
[07:48] <jordan> seeking2: I don't know.
[07:48] <SiCuTDeUx> Trentster: :P
[07:48] <seeking2> jordan: do I ever have to defrag my hard drive?
[07:48] <wastrel> no defrag on linux
[07:48] <jordan> seeking2: No
[07:48] <seeking2> wastrel: how come?
[07:49] <SiCuTDeUx> seeking2: there is no need to defrag
[07:49] <jordan> seeking2: Ext3 > ntfs
[07:49] <SiCuTDeUx> reiserfs > Ext3
[07:49] <seeking2> why do ppl use windows anyway when Linux is so good, eg, no defrag, spyware etc?
[07:49] <jordan> seeking2: The file system Ubuntu uses doesn't fragment
[07:49] <myJuly1423> is imposible
[07:49] <seeking2> SiCuTDeUx: I use ext3!  should i be using reiserfs?
[07:49] <jordan> seeking2: Hardware support, familiarity, that one windows app...
[07:49] <seeking2> jordan: thats awesome! so ext3 is that good?
[07:50] <myJuly1423> always will be fragments
[07:50] <SiCuTDeUx> seeking2: no, that's a more complicated solution...
[07:50] <seeking2> jordan: ok
[07:50] <jordan> myJuly1423: But not practical problems for regular users
[07:50] <iami89> how can i convert NTFS driver to EXT3?
[07:51] <SiCuTDeUx> seeking2: i use it because im a nut! :P
[07:51] <SiCuTDeUx> seeking2: Ext3 r0x too
[07:51] <jordan> iami89: You can't really, all you can do is copy the files from one to another
[07:51] <seeking2> SiCuTDeUx: ok :)
[07:51] <seeking2> SiCuTDeUx: so reiserfs is not as stable as ext3?
[07:51] <manfred22> 7 years old alcoholfree wine, may there alcohol be in it now?
[07:51] <iami89> when i install wine , it error, why, any suggestion?
[07:52] <seeking2> sh4d: I heard that french women are hot! is that true?
[07:52] <sh4d> yeah :)
[07:52] <SiCuTDeUx> seeking2: no, it's very stable and very very fast, it's a matter of uniqueness
[07:52] <sh4d> you're right :p
[07:52] <SiCuTDeUx> seeking2: :P
[07:52] <iami89> i think i've hear about prog that can convert
[07:53] <jordan> seeking2: ext3 is better at recovering if for instance the power goes out and your computer shuts down improperly
[07:53] <smoenux> does anyone know why my Torrents might be downloading slower than usual ??
[07:53] <myJuly1423> jordan: when you full a ext3 partition the problems come up
[07:53] <SiCuTDeUx> you haven't see Latin woman in my country
[07:53] <manfred22> 7 years old alcoholfree wine, may there alcohol be in it now?
[07:53] <jordan> myJuly1423: I know
[07:53] <manfred22> and is it riskfree to drink?
[07:53] <myJuly1423> jordan: there is not a perfect algoritm for avoid that
[07:53] <iami89> how to read a NTFS partition in ubuntu?
[07:53] <Flannel> manfred22: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <jordan> myJuly1423: I know
[07:53] <Flannel> !ntfs | iami89
[07:53] <ubotu> iami89: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:54] <iami89> and how to remove ubuntu for safe?
[07:54] <myJuly1423> jordan: i think must be to exists a defrag tool in linux or something because that speed up your system
[07:54] <Flannel> iami89: what?
[07:54] <frogma> how do i update my repositories?
[07:54] <jordan> myJuly1423: I am sure there is one, but for most people there will be verry little to no speed increase
[07:55] <grndslm> myJuly1423, fragmentation is for ext2 only
[07:55] <SiCuTDeUx> iami89: ok... you wont need to erase ubuntu from you box...
[07:55] <iami89> why?
[07:55] <uwecpwns> Can someone tell me why my window drives are not mounted by default?
[07:55] <SiCuTDeUx> iami89: because you will love it
[07:55] <grndslm> i've never heard of defragmentation in ext3, at least none that would make a difference
[07:55] <iami89> i love it
[07:55] <SiCuTDeUx> iami89: :D
[07:55] <frogma> how do i update my repositories?
[07:55] <jordan> !ntfs uwecpwns
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs uwecpwns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <seeking2> ok
[07:55] <seeking2> cheers
[07:55] <seeking2> :)
[07:55] <Flannel> grndslm, myJuly1423, ext3 doesn't need to be defragged
[07:55] <jordan> !ntfs | uwecpwns
[07:55] <ubotu> uwecpwns: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:56] <iami89> but some time i need to repair my system too
[07:56] <Flannel> frogma: what do you mean update?  sudo apt-get update? or something else?
[07:56] <iami89> so i want to know how to remove it safe
[07:56] <uwecpwns> thanks jordan
[07:56] <mabus> Help! I am willing to use any distro, I prefer ubuntu. But I can't get any distro to recognize my raid array to boot from it! Only ubuntu and gentoo actually let me write the installation to cd, but I couldn't get grub to boot from the raid array with either distro. Any ideas (with ubuntu obviously)
[07:56] <myJuly1423> Flannel why not ?
[07:56] <iami89> without ruin my windows
[07:56] <frogma> thanks Flannel
[07:57] <grndslm> myJuly1423, why are trees good?  why are rainbows good?
[07:57] <smoenux> frogma: "sudo apt-get update" - as far as I know
[07:57] <thee3> quoadlibet has multimedia keys support but the i installed from repo doesn't ??
[07:57] <jordan> !raid | mabus
[07:57] <ubotu> mabus: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:57] <smoenux> frogma: oh... Flannel beat me to it :P
[07:57] <Flannel> !defrag | myJuly1423
[07:57] <ubotu> myJuly1423: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[07:57] <myJuly1423> grndslm always is need to defrag
[07:57] <SiCuTDeUx> iami89: from windows remove linux partition with some partitioning tool, then recover the mbr with fdisk /mbr
[07:57] <grndslm> myJuly1423, not with good design there's no need
[07:57] <myJuly1423> say that to the oracle people
[07:57] <seeking2> mabus: LOL!  you are same guy from Christian channels rght? :)
[07:58] <Madpilot> myJuly1423, not with ext3
[07:58] <seeking2> mabus: you have no idea ;)
[07:58] <iami89> thank
[07:58] <Flannel> mabus: you'll need the alternate CD at any rate.
[07:58] <myJuly1423> in hard disk like the my < 10GB
[07:58] <iami89> but it will work?
[07:58] <myJuly1423> defrag becomig very useable
[07:58] <seeking2> mabus: its me, eternaljoy :)
[07:58] <mabus> seeking2: nope, that's a different guy (damn guy has my nick registered on dal.net ;))
[07:58] <smoenux> does anyone have any idea why my torrents are going slower than usual??
[07:58] <Flannel> myJuly1423: no, you don't understand.  ext3 doesn't need defragging
[07:58] <progek> is there anyone here who can help me with a tomcat question?
[07:58] <mabus> seeking2: I've talked with dalnet mabus before though.
[07:59] <seeking2> mabus: lol! yeah right ;) hehe
[07:59] <seeking2> mabus: ah ok :)
[07:59] <grndslm> myJuly1423, ext3 is designed so that fragmentation is kept to a minimum....it's all in the design, if you want the details...learn to program
[07:59] <mabus> Flannel: thanks
[07:59] <jordan> iami89: I am trying to understand what you want to do, Do you want to uninstall ubuntu and go back to windows?
[07:59] <Silencer> hello all
[07:59] <SiCuTDeUx> iami89: yeah it would work
[08:00] <Flannel> myJuly1423: ext2/3 defragment themselves as part of normal operations, therefore, you don't need to defragment them, ever.
[08:00] <thee3> quodlibet has multimedia keys support but the i installed from repo doesn't. anyone knows how to get it ??
[08:00] <Silencer> can some1 help me i have kernel panic when i want to start installation ubuntu 6.10 :<
[08:00] <iami89> nope
[08:00] <nomad111> how do i change the font color of my panels and menus
[08:00] <grndslm> Flannel, ext2 does that as well??  i thought ext2 actually had dedicated programs for defragging
[08:00] <jordan> Silencer: Are you sure that the CD burned correctly?
[08:00] <iami89> whereas i want to bye bye windows forever and change to linux ^___^
[08:00] <Silencer> jordan,
[08:01] <Silencer> yes ofc
[08:01] <myJuly1423> grndslm i know program
[08:01] <Silencer> i chacked :<
[08:01] <myJuly1423> Flannel you need to align the data sometimes for speed up
[08:01] <jordan> Silencer: What kind of error do you get when it panicks?
[08:01] <draco79> where can i download this files bcmwl5.sys and bcmwl5.inf
[08:02] <mabus> jordan: thanks, but that doesn't really appear to be relevant
[08:02] <grndslm> myJuly1423, believe what you want....
[08:02] <iami89> i am going to make a web site , is anyone here know where to get a free host with good quality and good size too?
[08:02] <Flannel> grndslm: there is a defragger for ext2, but I think it also does it as it goes.
[08:02] <mabus> iami89: if there were big, good, free, hosts... who would pay for one?
[08:03] <joshritger> can someone tell me how to properly remove a jumpdrive in ubuntu?
[08:03] <grndslm> maybe iami89 was asking for the best free hosting site that they knew of
[08:03] <grndslm> maybe host yourself???
[08:03] <iami89> i have to save my own money for many things i have to do
[08:03] <draco79> i know one that cost 10 dollars
[08:03] <iami89> i have not an ip adress
[08:04] <grndslm> how do you connect to the internet?
[08:04] <iami89> so i cant host myself
[08:04] <thee3> can anyone help me with this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30129/
[08:04] <draco79> http://jklang.ws iami89
[08:04] <iami89> ADSL fourth class{ it mean 512k}
[08:04] <MartinOz> I've just added a 2nd cdrom drive to my system. Is there a way to regenerate the /etc/fstab (and mtab?) files to pick up the new hardware ?
[08:05] <grndslm> iami89, i don't get it...what do you mean you don't have an ip address??  how are you communicating with us?
[08:05] <iami89> i mean static ip
[08:06] <grndslm> well...you can use dyndns to update a dyndns subdomain name to link to your dhcp address, silly!
[08:06] <beerme> Madpilot,
[08:06] <beerme> :(
[08:06] <mabus> Help! I am willing to use any distro, I prefer ubuntu. But I can't get any distro to recognize my raid array to boot from it! Only ubuntu and gentoo actually let me write the installation to cd, but I couldn't get grub to boot from the raid array with either distro. Any ideas (with ubuntu obviously)
[08:07] <grndslm> iami89:  or any other .com/.net/.org site that you register can be redirected to your dhcp address!
[08:07] <iami89> i've know about it
[08:07] <grndslm> then why not host yourself?
[08:07] <Flannel> mabus: did you read that link?
[08:07] <grndslm> iami89, redirection is your best free hosting solution
[08:07] <iami89> ok, i'll try
 redirection is a name?
[08:08] <grndslm> no, definitely not
[08:08] <thee3> anyone. please.
[08:08] <MartinOz> Is there a command line to regenerate /etc/fstab (mtab?) to pick up new drives ?
[08:09] <MartinOz> if i know the command i can look up a howto on the web
[08:09] <grndslm> iami89, i'm saying that if you want something for free, you're going to have to make some tradeoffs, like getting a spare server and learning how to host yourself
[08:09] <grndslm> otherwise, you need to pay
[08:09] <mabus> Flannel: yes
[08:09] <MartinOz> (can't find anything just searching "fstab" or mtab" - too many irrelevent hits)
[08:09] <mabus> Flannel: that's not relevant to the situation
[08:10] <iami89> ah, do you guys know where to get linux game , i've known some but its not much
[08:10] <wastrel> moon-buggy
[08:10] <SiCuTDeUx> MartinOz: did you tried to do it manualy
[08:10] <grndslm> tremulous is a good game
[08:10] <beerme> fsck you
[08:10] <grndslm> hah
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> bah!
[08:11] <joshritger> does anyone know what is wrong with the xubuntu chat, anytime i say anything i get a answer from someone saying not possible
[08:11] <MartinOz> SiCuTDeUx: i "could" try to edit manually, but I'm a newbie and would rather a command line do it so I can see exactly what it does - I'm not comfortable i know enough to get it right !
[08:11] <green> anyone know how to switch ur volume controls from master to pcm?
[08:11] <mabus> Flannel: That's for being able to see an already existing array so that you can migrate data.. not my troubles with differing syntax in fstab/grub between the install cd and the new environment.
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> my dvd drive is stuck trying to read something on a scratched-up DVD! the totem process won't die! gah!
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> why can't I tell my computer to stop doing something, and have it listen to me
[08:12] <MartinOz> is it a simple case of creating a directory under /media and mounting that to the /dev device ?
[08:12] <SiCuTDeUx> MartinOz: yeah
[08:12] <jordan> BHSPitLappy: Did you try kill -9?
[08:12] <thee3> BHSPitLappy: add force quit applet to panel and use that. it woks alwya.
[08:12] <MartinOz> maybe sometimes things are too simple and i'm complicating things !! Thanks SiCuTDeUX, I'll dive in and see what happens
[08:13] <SiCuTDeUx> MartinOz: look at the bright side, you are learning more and more
[08:13] <Sargonious> dir
[08:13] <Sargonious> ls
[08:13] <Sargonious> ?
[08:13] <iami89> !rule
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <Sargonious> What is this?
[08:13] <Sargonious> Where am I?
[08:14] <esc_ape> can someone tell me what kernel updates there are? I want to check to see something...
[08:14] <MartinOz> i know, and i love it - it's just without the confidence i worry i  might "break" something. At least I create a system image with "partimage" all the the time so I can recover
[08:14] <MartinOz> thanks SiCuTDeUx
[08:14] <SiCuTDeUx> MartinOz: the best thing to do is to edit the files manually and copy and paste the cdrom line and change de /dev/hdX of the new cdrom and dont need to change anything else
[08:14] <BHSPitLappy> thee3, it's not a graphical application, it's a persistent process
[08:14] <Holylucifer> hey ive tryed out ubuntu, on live Cd,
[08:14] <SiCuTDeUx> *the
[08:14] <Holylucifer> yea could do with irc cilent :0)
[08:15] <thee3> quodlibet has multimedia keys support but the i installed from repo doesn't. anyone knows how to get it ?? ANYONE??
[08:15] <Holylucifer> couldnt install anything
[08:15] <Holylucifer> yeah its nice and simple
[08:15] <Holylucifer> browse
[08:15] <MartinOz> SiCuTDeUx: I guessed that was a possibility. I'm confident to do it now. Can't hurt ! Thanks again
[08:15] <hyphen> #python
[08:15] <ndowens> can't believe novell signed a deal with MS, how is that gonna effect linux after the 5 yrs is up
[08:15] <SiCuTDeUx> MartinOz: thank u for asking
[08:15] <Xen> How do I make /mnt/data readable by users?  (I had just moved it over from /media, and there were no problems when it was in meda...)
[08:16] <Holylucifer> whos novell?
[08:16] <jordan> Holylucifer: There is an IRC client on the LiveCD, it is a chat program called gaim
[08:16] <MartinOz> SiCuTDeUx: thank u so much for replying. I'm off to try it out
[08:16] <Melissa|X> I need to know the name of a program. it scans a filesystem and displays a neat table of all your folders and files in order from biggest to smallest. I think I have it I just don't recall what it was called
[08:16] <Holylucifer> oh
[08:16] <Holylucifer> well i had a quick feel of it
[08:16] <esc_ape> anyone know what the recent kernel updates are?
[08:16] <Holylucifer> yeah plain and simple i like the work tab on the bottom bar
[08:16] <esc_ape> the version number...
[08:16] <thee3> BHSPitLappy: what jordan said.
[08:17] <Holylucifer> apart from Java, and the graphics drivers
[08:17] <Holylucifer> yeah i was Amazed my Internet even worked
[08:17] <Holylucifer> how did it work ,
[08:17] <Holylucifer> O_o
[08:17] <jStefan> Holylucifer, DHCP ftw
[08:17] <Holylucifer> it uses a usb to ethernet adaptor
[08:17] <Holylucifer> oh
[08:17] <BHSPitLappy> thee3, jordan, it JUST gave up its final breath.
[08:17] <myJuly1423> MartinOz lilo can help you
[08:17] <Holylucifer> well i was amazed :-)
[08:17] <BHSPitLappy> :(
[08:17] <Holylucifer> and the sound
[08:17] <wastrel> <3 dhcp
[08:17] <jordan> Holylucifer: And to install applications ( which you can test / try with small apps on the LiveCD ) go to applications -> add-reamove.
[08:17] <myJuly1423> MartinOz lilo generates fstab automatically
[08:18] <Holylucifer> thank you Jordan
[08:18] <SiCuTDeUx> Xen: when you mount the device make sure that you assign the rights permissions
[08:18] <Melissa|X> please help the sleepy girl so she can go to bed :'(
[08:18] <dustin> how do i burn mp3's to a music cd?
[08:18] <Holylucifer> one thing ill have to get used to
[08:18] <SiCuTDeUx> Xen: you can use fmask=777,dmask=777
[08:18] <Holylucifer> whats the normal program exe to install, is it bin?
[08:18] <Holylucifer> instead of windows exe.
[08:18] <esc_ape> dustin: k3b, gnomebaker...
[08:18] <alkali> Melissa|X: is it beagle?
[08:18] <beerme> hollywoodstar, its
[08:19] <beerme> just
[08:19] <Xen> SiCuTDeUx, both or one?
[08:19] <SiCuTDeUx> Xen: both
[08:19] <Holylucifer> brb
[08:19] <esc_ape> can someone see what version the kernel updates are?
[08:19] <SiCuTDeUx> sb nov  4 03:19:22 VET 2006
[08:19] <SiCuTDeUx> oh...
[08:19] <dustin> esc_ape, it sais the required blah blah blah is missing...   is there a package i can download?
[08:19] <SiCuTDeUx> i better get some sleep
[08:19] <ndowens> esc_ape: look at kernel.org
[08:19] <SiCuTDeUx> 3:20 am
[08:19] <doppo> anyone having problems with eclipse + cdt with edgy?!
[08:19] <jordan> BHSPitLappy: Sorry, I forget, what problem are you having again?
[08:19] <Xen> SiCuTDeUx, k, thanks.
[08:19] <Melissa|X> no, it definitely wasn't beagle. I noticed it in my menu one day and it had an ugly kind of icon so I tried it. I hit scan and it scans my harddrive for files and orders them according to size so I know what would be best for me to delete
[08:19] <SiCuTDeUx> Xen: thank u
[08:20] <Xen> doppo, yeah, I had a ton of problems.
[08:20] <esc_ape> ndownens: would kernel.org be the same as the ones in the repos?
[08:20] <Xen> doppo, got 'em fixed though; what's yours?
[08:20] <doppo> Xen: No solution at all? I'm tired of removing .metadata everytime
[08:20] <BHSPitLappy> jordan, DVD has some scratchage... the dvd drive gets stuck attempting to read it, and there's nothing I can do about it for like 5 minutes
[08:20] <esc_ape> dustin: what said that?
[08:20] <alkali> Melissa|X: So when you did this you hadn't added much software.  It was part of the standard ubuntu installation?
[08:20] <cubny> how can i copy files from ubuntu folders into windows folders?
[08:20] <ndowens> esc_ape: it would give u a idea of what the changes are, the ones in resp is just the kernel.org kernel plus patches
[08:20] <dustin> gnomebaker
[08:20] <monokrome> :|
[08:20] <dustin> esc_ape,
[08:21] <doppo> Xen: mine happens when I restart eclipse and it keeps giving me an infinite popup saying spomething about "listeners"
[08:21] <Melissa|X> oh no, I had added billions of software. it's the first thing I do to any installation. I've had this installation since the days of Warty in fact, not a single format :D
[08:21] <jordan> BHSPitLappy: Oh, right, and you said there was a process you were trying to kill?
[08:21] <doppo> Xen: the exact infinite message is: "Error notifying a preference change listener""
[08:21] <Holylucifer> brb gonna try gaim :0)
[08:21] <Xen> doppo, yeah
[08:21] <BHSPitLappy> jordan, the media player app likes to hold on when this happens.
[08:21] <monokrome> Anyone in here have experience with FireGL? I have an XPress 200M in this laptop, and fglrx works and all - but I don't have dri. Anyone ever seen this?
[08:21] <Holylucifer> have to load cd
[08:22] <Melissa|X> its just one app I need to know the name of. it's most likely in the universe repo's even. I'm just hoping somebody knows of it
[08:22] <Xen> doppo, did you install CDT via apt?
[08:22] <cubny> NE1 can help me?  how can i copy files from ubuntu folders into windows folders?
[08:22] <rqm> hora hora
[08:22] <alkali> Melissa|X: Um.  And explain what it did one more time in detail?
[08:22] <esc_ape> ndowen: ok thanks. but I want to know what the updates in ubuntu are...the version number...
[08:22] <wastrel> !ntfs | cubny
[08:22] <ubotu> cubny: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:22] <cartman> hi all i'm new to all this does anyone know how to view a windows partition
[08:22] <doppo> Xen: yes!
[08:23] <rqm> I have a completely non technical question about ubuntu
[08:23] <cubny> tnx
[08:23] <Xen> doppo, yeah...um...don't do that.
[08:23] <cubny> !ntfs
[08:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:23] <rqm> or rather ubunu's sabdfl, Mark
[08:23] <esc_ape> cartman: see the wiki on dual booting and mounting windows partitions
[08:23] <jordan> !fuse | cubny
[08:23] <ubotu> cubny: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:23] <SiCuTDeUx> !fuse
[08:23] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:23] <Melissa|X> well it just allowed me to see an overview of all the files on my filesystem or even in just one directory based off of file size, and it gave little % bar's. it made it very simple to find the biggest files that I can delete to save disk space
[08:23] <cartman> thanks
[08:23] <Xen> doppo, install it via Help->Software Updates->Find and Install.
[08:23] <doppo> Xen: that solves the problem then?
[08:23] <thor> Melissa|X: maybe gtkdiskfree?
[08:24] <rqm> nya kikoemasuka?
[08:24] <Xen> doppo, stupid as it sounds, I ended up installing Edgy twice.  I tried it that way the second time around, and I've not had a single problem.
[08:24] <Melissa|X> no, this isn't it
[08:24] <Xen> doppo, so presumably, uninstall on apt, clear out any preferences that it may leave behind, and reinstall through Software Updates.  I think that should do it.
[08:24] <doppo> Xen: wow man! Thanks a lot, I'll drop cdt and reinstall that way.  :D
[08:25] <beerme> no problem, doppo
[08:25] <Melissa|X> this looks like it only does partitions. this did entire directories at a time and gave extremely detailed output, every file in every directory
[08:25] <doppo> Xen: thanks, bye! :)
[08:25] <Xen> doppo, Heh, no problem...glad I could help out, after all the trouble I've caused everyone else on the chan. :P
[08:25] <Xen> doppo, laters.
[08:25] <doppo> :P
[08:25] <Xen> doppo, Hope it works though...
[08:25] <PyChild> hello?
[08:25] <beerme> hallo
[08:25] <beerme> psych[0] ,
[08:25] <FirstStrike> hola
[08:26] <PyChild> Hora
[08:26] <PyChild> Hey i got a qeird question
[08:26] <dustin> esc_ape, it needed to have gstreamer-mad or somehting     i found it in restrictive formats on the wiki
[08:26] <PyChild> w*
[08:26] <beerme> i dont care
[08:26] <savvas> geia
[08:26] <PyChild> u sure?
[08:26] <cubny> ubotu: they're already mounted, all i want is to copy a folder from my home directory to a ntfs directory. is it possible? or i have to do fuse stuffs?! :-/
[08:26] <savvas> any other languages lol
[08:26] <esc_ape> dustin: yeah you need to install mp3 codecs/support before you can do anything
[08:26] <dustin> true
[08:27] <esc_ape> dustin: try automatix
[08:27] <PyChild> anyway what does the sa in sabdfl means?
[08:27] <ndowens> wouldnt it be better for person with dialup to download binaries instead of source
[08:27] <Madpilot> PyChild, Self Appointed
[08:27] <PyChild> Ohh i feel illustrated!
[08:28] <Madpilot> esc_ape, please don't recommend that, it breaks things.
[08:28] <Melissa|X> I feel frustrated
[08:28] <knix> Is there a way to do a text-based install?
[08:28] <Corbo> I feel cocky
[08:28] <PyChild> then who appointed guido for bdfl?
[08:28] <alkali> Melissa|X: It's hard to google something on attributes of a program alone.  Know any of the words in the program title?
[08:28] <knix> The safe graphics mode seems to have changed from dapper to edgy, and I can no longer run X on the livecd
[08:28] <esc_ape> Madpilot: automatix works for me. I only use it to install codecs...
[08:28] <knix> (945gm graphics)
[08:28] <jordan> !automatix | esc_ape
[08:28] <ubotu> esc_ape: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[08:28] <savvas> is the 8776 nvidia driver working ok? i'd like to know before i update
[08:28] <dustin> esc_ape, yeah    especially someone who doesn't seem to know what is going on
[08:29] <cubny> ubotu: they're already mounted, all i want is to copy a folder from my home directory to a ntfs directory. is it possible? or i have to do fuse stuffs?! :-/
[08:29] <Melissa|X> I'm sorry about such a vague description, it's been months since I had discovered it and I can't find it anymore in either my synaptic history nor anywhere else
[08:29] <jordan> !alternate | knix
[08:29] <ubotu> knix: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install.   Like gtk oriented?
[08:30] <cubny> :((
[08:30] <cubny> i didnt know that
[08:30] <PyChild> sweet dreams/good moring /afternoon / pick the one that suits you better
[08:30] <savvas> ndowens: i think sources are faster
[08:30] <PyChild> depending on your time zone
[08:30] <cryptonic> whats the best method of opening .rar files in ubuntu?
[08:31] <cubny> unrar
[08:31] <jordan> !sabdfl
[08:31] <ubotu> sabdfl is Mark Shuttleworth, self-appointed benevolent dictator for life, cosmonaut, founder of Canonical and primary driver of Ubuntu. Also see http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[08:31] <Melissa|X> yeah, it was definitely gtk (I try not to use anything else because gtk is pretty and nothing else is :P). pretty sure it wasn't gnome specific though
[08:31] <ndowens>  savvas i know i can not sync b/c my net is too slow and apt is faster at updating
[08:31] <savvas> cryptonic: unrar package
[08:31] <cubny> all i want is to copy a folder from my home directory to a ntfs directory. is it possible? or i have to do fuse stuffs?! :-/
[08:32] <Corbo> cubny ntfs is read only unless you use something like fuse
[08:32] <Corbo> and ntfs write is not to be trusted
[08:32] <savvas> ndowens: it's faster at updating because it just gets the package info it does not have
[08:32] <jordan> cubny: You need to either use Fuse, or an intermediate fat partition / thumb drive
[08:32] <cryptonic> savvas : that does nothing in terminal
[08:32] <cubny> it says fuse isnt safe
[08:32] <Corbo> well don't use it then
[08:32] <savvas> cryptonic: sudo apt-get install unrar rar
[08:32] <wastrel> ubunt0
[08:32] <cubny> so, it's not possible
[08:32] <alkali> Melissa|X: I'm checking around but if you go to www.gnomefiles.org and check around they may have it.  It covers a lot of linux programs including programs like you're describing.
[08:33] <jordan> cubny: Wait, there is actually an Ext3 driver for windows
[08:33] <linopil> cubny use USB flash
[08:33] <ndowens> savvas: well emerge just gets the info pretty much as well, just small lil ebuild files in a text file
[08:33] <savvas> cryptonic: that will install unrar and rar packages, use unrar x file.rar to unpack it
[08:33] <Corbo> I had a ntfs drive, I copied everything off of it, wiped it, formatted it as ext3 and moved everything back on, that's your simplest bet
[08:33] <cubny> that's cool linopil
[08:33] <cubny> thanks corbo
[08:33] <Corbo> ok
[08:33] <cubny> but i still use my windows
[08:33] <Holylucifer3> hi guys im on ubuntu live cd useing x chat
[08:33] <cryptonic> savvas : command line only?
[08:33] <savvas> ndowens: oh you're comparing gentoo and ubuntu? if so, i don't know :P
[08:34] <alkali> Melissa|X: I found something very similar called  Baobab  Does this program look familiar?  http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bbshots.html
[08:34] <ndowens> savvas: well according to some site, it takes apt a few secs to update while portage takes 15 mins or so
[08:34] <jordan> Holylucifer3: Try installing something, the install process is my favorite thing about ubuntu :)
[08:34] <Melissa|X> YES! omg thank you so much^^
[08:34] <Holylucifer3> this is the first linux distro ive tryed in my life heh
[08:34] <cubny> can i use share folders?
[08:34] <ndowens> so i figure it may be about the same ratio with downloading
[08:34] <Melissa|X> and I still have it installed too^^
[08:34] <ndowens> Holylucifer3: well maybe u will love linux
[08:34] <Holylucifer3> live cd
[08:34] <savvas> cryptonic: when you install those two, i think you can use the archive manager applications -> accessories -> archive manager
[08:35] <Holylucifer3> cool
[08:35] <ndowens> why don;t u install it
[08:35] <Holylucifer3> 1 hd
[08:35] <alkali> Melissa|X: Lol ironic.  Good luck.  Try not to lose it again ;-)
[08:35] <Holylucifer3> can i have 2 os on 1?
[08:35] <ndowens> yea it's called dual-boot
[08:35] <beerme> xc,
[08:35] <jordan> !dualboot | Holylucifer3
[08:35] <ubotu> Holylucifer3: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:35] <savvas> Holylucifer3: welcome aboard :D
[08:35] <Melissa|X> lol :P
[08:35] <ndowens> and it will run faster on the HD than cd
[08:36] <jordan> Holylucifer3: Yes, the installer will set it up for you automatically.
[08:36] <Holylucifer3> this needs graphics drivers , im used to nvidias digital viberance and image sharpening
[08:36] <tmorris> I have a D-Link DWL-G510 (ver C2) network card, but it doesn't even show up in lspci - so how can I possibly hope that it will work with some kind of driver? (The power light is on though)
[08:36] <Holylucifer3> :0)
[08:36] <Melissa|X> I only lost it because the gnome menu called it Disk Usage Analyzer instead of Babab whatever that means. once it was taken from my menu it's impossible to find it again o.O
[08:36] <beerme> LOL_AT_WIKIOPS
[08:36] <beerme> strange name
[08:36] <beerme> :s
[08:36] <Holylucifer3> :)
[08:36] <cryptonic> savvas: works now both command and archiver, thx
[08:36] <alkali> Melissa|X: I have that in my new edgy install and they probably renamed it for this distro
[08:36] <ndowens> Holylucifer3: go for it, i hate running off the cd
[08:37] <jordan> Holylucifer3: Nvidia drivers are easy to install, but it's probably not worth doing untill you install to the hard drive :)
[08:37] <Holylucifer3> i have a question, can i installed a game called ut 2004 (although it can run under linux without windows emulators) useing this live cd?
[08:37] <Holylucifer3> i have 1 cd drive :-)
[08:37] <savvas> cryptonic: n/p :) maybe you will have some problems with files with password & encryption, but not really sure about it
[08:38] <Melissa|X> I've been running Edgy since it started beta. if it's in the menu still, then I must be blind again. these menus don't seem to have much organization to them
[08:38] <savvas> cryptonic: in that case, the terminal commands work ok
[08:38] <cryptonic> lol, just as you said that i got prompted for a password on a .rar im using
[08:38] <cryptonic> :)
[08:38] <jordan> Holylucifer3: Probably not, when you install things on the liveCD it uses your RAM as a temporary disk, you probably don't have enough space
[08:38] <Corbo> Melissa, try using Vista, then you won't be complaining
[08:38] <Melissa|X> >_<
[08:38] <Corbo> lol
[08:39] <Melissa|X> I prefer to keep my blood and innards and all of that intact thank you very much
[08:39] <Corbo> hehe
[08:39] <Corbo> vista drove me to linux, I'm sure I'm not the only one
[08:39] <Holylucifer3> well your not
[08:39] <savvas> someone kick Corbo :P *runs*
[08:39] <Holylucifer3> i am a gamer
[08:39] <Holylucifer3> learning linux today
[08:39] <jStefan> IE7 drove me to firefox and opera
[08:39] <Corbo> was that you Gates?
[08:39] <Holylucifer3> because of it
[08:39] <Melissa|X> Windows XP deleting itself in the middle of a disk cleanup is what drove me to Linux
[08:40] <Corbo> heh microsoft anonymous
[08:40] <Melissa|X> its supposed to delete temp files
[08:40] <Melissa|X> it totally didn't >_<
[08:40] <alkali> I haven't had the priviledge to play with vista?  Does it have the same mind boggling performance drawbacks as XP?
[08:40] <jStefan> Melissa|X, windows is temporary :P
[08:40] <Holylucifer3> i have a game running called nibbles haha
[08:40] <Melissa|X> indeed
[08:40] <savvas> Holylucifer3: you'll love wolfenstein enemy-territory then: http://et.filefront.com
[08:40] <tmorris> Holylucifer3, I used to play that as a kid on a 286 - it is written in qbasic iirc
[08:40] <Holylucifer3> will this install, with live cd
[08:40] <Corbo> alkali: I used the vista rc for a month, it's XP, with more nagging
[08:40] <Holylucifer3> ive played that on win xp
[08:40] <Holylucifer3> spam tastic at times :0)
[08:41] <Holylucifer3> oh wait
[08:41] <Corbo> I don't mind XP so much
[08:41] <Melissa|X> the whole "you have howevermany days to register" message really means "you have howevermany days before you get to redo everything from scratch"
[08:41] <Holylucifer3> use windows xp activation crack
[08:41] <jordan> Holylucifer3: If you install to the hard drive, All the apps you have on the liveCD install also
[08:42] <alkali> Corbo: I played XP but I hated having to figure out what all those services were for.  I missed windows 98 when you had a startup folder and that was it.
[08:42] <Holylucifer3> so if i have both linux and windows on the same hard drive, no harm :/???
[08:42] <Corbo> alkali - but you have services in linux too ?
[08:42] <jordan> alkali: You missed 98?!?
[08:42] <kikia>  ^0^/
[08:42] <Corbo> anyhow: Holy do you have lots of RAM?
[08:42] <alkali> Corbo: Yes but they are not as processor intensive
[08:42] <phaedra> Holylucifer3, I've dual booted for years.  No problem...
[08:42] <Holylucifer3> 512mb
[08:43] <Corbo> ok
[08:43] <Corbo> if you had more ram holy your other option is to run XP in a vmware machine
[08:43] <ndowens> i only have 128mb of ram, and i've ran ubuntu on it
[08:43] <Holylucifer3> thats 512mb pc3200 2.6ghz /ht 120gb hd, although not full
[08:43] <ndowens> everytime some distro says i need blah and i don't have it, it works fine
[08:43] <alkali> jordan: Of course.  It was a simple time.  A time when I deleted a file it actually went away.  It didn't have 5 backups and told me that the driver I was using wasn't XP certified.  I was in control
[08:43] <james296> how can I uninstall EasyUbuntu?
[08:44] <grant> hi guys, anyone here familiar with QEMU?
[08:44] <alkali> Download an ubuntu liveCD and start over
[08:44] <alkali> :-D
[08:44] <Holylucifer3> well in applications i see a add and remove
[08:44] <Corbo> alkali: I was with a home user the other day who had just re-installed 98..no firewall..broadband modem...it lasted about 5 seconds
[08:44] <jordan> !easyubuntu
[08:44] <ubotu> easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:44] <Melissa|X> gaim likes to crash >_<
[08:44] <Holylucifer3> or just.. reload the cd
[08:44] <Melissa|X> wonder what I was expecting with beta 4 =\
[08:44] <alkali> Melissa|X: 2.0?
[08:44] <grant> hi guys, anyone here familiar with QEMU?
[08:45] <alkali> Corbo: That's cause we didn't have all that fancy high speed in 98
[08:45] <Corbo> yes, we were just hacked slower
[08:45] <Melissa|X> 2.0beta4 is so much fun to crash </sarcasm>
[08:45] <alkali> Corbo: Yes.  and most people didn't bother because usually we'd shut down our dial up before anyone could get in because AOL kicked us off so frequently
[08:46] <jordan> Holylucifer3: Install to the hard drive, you know you want to :)
[08:46] <Corbo> AOL?  You'd already been hacked mate ;p
[08:46] <alkali> lol good poiny
[08:46] <alkali> *point
[08:46] <Xen> how can I make a symbolic link to every item in a folder inside another folder?
[08:46] <grant> hey guys can you please help with this, have just installed edgy and have a winxp hd connected as slave, want to run xp inside ubuntu but can't use vmware, i'm look for an alternative, suggestions?
[08:47] <grant> sorry looking
[08:47] <Corbo> why can't you use vmware?
[08:47] <alkali> grant: correct me if I'm wrong but I think you have to install XP in vmware
[08:47] <alkali> like qemu
[08:47] <Holylucifer3> ive found return to castle wolfenstine et for lunx v2.6
[08:47] <grant> i mucked up the install and now it is sure its installed even though its not
[08:47] <crimsun> Xen: lndir(1x)
[08:47] <Corbo> yep, you'd have to image it, then restore it in the vmware machine
[08:47] <Holylucifer3> gonna download wonder if it can install
[08:47] <Xen> 1x being the source or dest?
[08:47] <grant> no way that i can run an already working install?
[08:48] <crimsun> Xen: 1x being the manual section.
[08:48] <crimsun> Xen: cf. xutils-dev
[08:48] <grant> really don't want to have to dual boot
[08:48] <Corbo> grant what are you trying the achieve?
[08:48] <grant> hey corbo, have a working xp installed on primary slave and want to run it inside a window in edgy
[08:48] <alkali> grant: you could emulate XP but you'd need to backup the data
[08:48] <Xen> crimsun, got it, thanks
[08:49] <grant> how do you mean alkali?
[08:49] <Corbo> grant, I am doing that right now, but in VMWare, I don't know what the alternatives are
[08:49] <alkali> grant: Well you want edgy to be your main operating system right?
[08:49] <grant> corbo, any suggestions for how i can fix the mucked up vmware server install?
[08:49] <grant> alkali, yes
[08:49] <Corbo> just run it again
[08:50] <grant> corbo, it says already installed and quits
[08:50] <grant> but vmware isn't installed
[08:50] <Corbo> bummer, is it showing in the package manager?
[08:50] <grant> nope
[08:50] <Corbo> and have you installed the vmware gui?
[08:50] <grant> well i've tried to but it isn't working
[08:50] <alkali> grant: I've read that you backup all the files you have in XP and clear both drives installing edgy.  Then get the program called qemu and emulate an XP install  and once you have XP running you restore your files to the emulated windows XP.
[08:50] <alkali> There is a walkthrough on it
[08:51] <unikuser> Can we use intel virtualization technology(IVT) for emulation here/
[08:51] <grant> thanks alkali but i'm trying to avoid going through the whole xp install process
[08:51] <alkali> lol well now you're just being picky ;-)
[08:51] <grant> lol
[08:51] <Corbo> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server_p2
[08:52] <Corbo> have you done that bit grant?
[08:52] <alkali> Ubuntu has the best guides
[08:52] <grant> well i've been running that xp box for about 2 years, so everything is finally setup to some kind of acceptable standard, don't want to go through it all again (installed edgy 4 days ago and almost at the same stage, anyone else noticing a time difference?) lmao
[08:52] <grant> two secs corbo, i'll have a look
[08:53] <Flannel> howtoforge has some really crappy ones, by the way.  Basically breaking the ubuntu-ness of your install.
[08:53] <Corbo> grant, either way, if you want to get your real machine in to a vrtual machine you're going to have to sysprep it, image it, and restore it in to the virtual machine
[08:53] <grant> was worried you were going to say something like that corbo
[08:53] <Dewi> does wireless WPA work out of the box yet?
[08:53] <Dewi> (on edgy)
[08:53] <alkali> Flannel: You just got to pick and choose.   But many other distros are like, "Google it and good luck."
[08:53] <Flannel> grant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VmwareServer  Is probably a better one, rather than the howtoforge
[08:53] <crimsun> Dewi: no, still requires configuration.
[08:54] <jordan> Flannel: I only really trust Howtos from wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:54] <Dewi> crimsun: but does it require installing packages out of universe, like it did a year ago?
[08:54] <grant> yeah i had a look at that flannel but it insists that its already installed
[08:54] <Dewi> wpa-supplicant
[08:54] <crimsun> Dewi: no, wpasupplicant shipped in main as of 6.06
[08:54] <Dewi> or whatever
[08:54] <Dewi> crimsun: nod
[08:54] <Dewi> crimsun: I didn't try any 6.* yet
[08:54] <Dewi> crimsun: tempting though
[08:54] <Xen> crimsun, that's not exactly what I intended...that makes directories and then symlinks the files....I just want a top level symlink to everything in the top dir...
[08:55] <crimsun> Xen: time for some perl, then.
[08:55] <grant> getting a horrible feeling i'm going to end have to keep swapping these in the bios, oh well, even if i could get the thing to run i'd probably have to reactivate xp dual to major hardware change
[08:55] <Corbo> grant, can't you setup grub to give you a dual boot menu ?
[08:56] <pgurumur> does anybody know to disable sudo + pam on a NIS env on ubuntu dapper?
[08:56] <Xen> Crimsun, might just do that...but not this second, I think (not too good at perl).  Thanks for trying though.
[08:56] <grant> hey corbo, don't really know enough about grub and so not messing about with it after the number of muck ups i had with lilo
[08:57] <grant> i confess my ideal image...
[08:57] <alkali> grant: grub and lilo are two diff creatures
[08:57] <alkali> grub is much much much easier
[08:57] <alkali> IMO
[08:57] <jordan> alkali: Unless you use a mac ;)
[08:57] <grant> was running edgy with windows running fullscreen on a desktop and just jumping between them with 3ddesk, it would look really really cool, and i could laugh at all the windows users lol
[08:58] <alkali> jordan: not here to argue with you.....cause I don't own a mac :-D
[08:58] <donaldo> I'm installing on a Powerbook with a broken backlight. How can I force the installer to display on a separate display?
[08:58] <Corbo> do you think apple will make OSX compatible with none apple hardware anytime soon?
[08:58] <Corbo> I've tried the hacked osx on my PC and it worked a treat
[08:58] <grant> hey alkali, to be honest diving in the bios isn't really a big deal, would really rather not muck about with the bootloader yet
[08:58] <grant> only had ubuntu for about 4 days
[08:59] <ndowens> Corbo: most likely, but it will probably be a long time if they do
[08:59] <alkali> grant: It's true.  But in the end the research will do you good and it will always to be nice if one or the other messes up you don't have to open your computer to use an OS.
[08:59] <jordan> Corbo: Never, they are a hardware manufacturur first and foremost, but they sell their hardware by it's OSX compatability
[09:00] <Corbo> yes, but it's more compatible than they let on...I've had it running on a xeon dell
[09:00] <ndowens> i figured maybe if they wanted more sales they might eventually sell MACOSX for intel pcs
[09:00] <grant> thats true alkali, just would have liked the finesse of live switching os's
[09:00] <Corbo> grant, get another PC and a kvm switch
[09:01] <Holylucifer3> heh get linux for free and play games made for linux os.
[09:01] <ndowens> that is just my opinion sometime later down the road
[09:01] <grant> corbo, nice ideal but i'm not exactly rolling in it...just a poor student
[09:01] <grant> here is a laugh for you guys
[09:01] <Corbo> steal one
[09:01] <Seeker2599> im trying to transfer an .avi file to my windows pc from my ubuntu laptop using a flash drive but every time i try to open the file with windows its corrupted, does anyone know why or have a solution to my problem?
[09:01] <alkali> What a fun dream.  A day when two OS's, one owned by a monopoly and one built by people for people, coming together to work seamlessly.  Sounds like a longshot
[09:02] <grant> define irony, noob linux user going through all this to run xp inside linux in order to run visual certexam to qualify as MCSE? lol
[09:02] <Corbo> lol grant: ditto
[09:02] <donaldo> Seeker2599: are you sure it's corrupted? are you sure you don't simply lack the proper video ccodec?
[09:02] <Corbo> except I'm running testout
[09:02] <Corbo> I was just too scared to admit it in a linux room :p
[09:03] <grant> on a much lighter note, can anyone tell me any significant differences between beryl and 3ddesk?
[09:03] <alkali> I think we have to vote Corbo off our island
[09:03] <Corbo> lol
[09:03] <Melissa|X> oki, finally after 3gb freespace is turned into 20, I may go to bed :D
[09:03] <Melissa|X> thanks for your help^^
[09:03] <Corbo> well sometimes you just have to take one for the team when it comes to getting a job
[09:03] <grant> quick everyone Corbo admitted to working for the man, get him....lol
[09:03] <alkali> Melissa|X: woohoo.  So you did sudo rm -rf / huh?
[09:04] <grant> well thanks for your help anyways, corbo, alkali
[09:04] <Melissa|X> I wish. Windows could benefit from that :D
[09:04] <Corbo> np
[09:04] <Seeker2599> donaldo: i have the codec, when i plug the flash drive into my pc the file says "filename url:fileprotocal"
[09:04] <grant> on a much lighter note, can anyone tell me any significant differences between beryl and 3ddesk?
[09:04] <donaldo> lol alkali, shell commands are uber-funny
[09:04] <Melissa|X> I just had to delete a few really ugly big things taking all my space so I can put more games in Windows
[09:04] <grant> i.e. which is better?
[09:04] <alkali> lol good times.  Microsoft send me 5 dollars for every linux user I force back to windows
[09:04] <alkali> I'm rolling in cash
[09:04] <jordan> grant: Beryl can do a LOT more
[09:05] <alkali> <--kidding
[09:05] <Melissa|X> nighty night, I'm tired and I feel bad from dealing with concentrated ammonium in Chem today >_<
[09:05] <Seeker2599> filename of course being replaced with the true filename
[09:05] <grant> hey jordan, just seen people having a lot of trouble getting it running, any suggestions for a good edgy install guide?
[09:05] <Corbo> grant one other thing: If you're testing software includes videos, don't expect them to run well in vmware
[09:05] <donaldo> Seeker2599: the file "says" this? what exactly does that mean
[09:05] <jordan> !beryl
[09:05] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[09:06] <Holylucifer3> im downloading et for linux 258.4mb, what does ubuntu do with large files like these being downloaded?
[09:06] <grant> hey corbo, they still haven't gotten around the directx stuff?
[09:06] <jordan> grant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnEdgy
[09:06] <Corbo> there is experimental directx but it doesnt help
[09:06] <Seeker2599> donaldo: instead of it telling me its a movie file it tells me url:fileprotocal
[09:06] <grant> thanks guys, i'll go read about beryl, think the bottom line is you are saying there is no competition between 3ddesk and it yeah?
[09:07] <Seeker2599> donaldo: i tried opening it with my Divx player but then it says its corrupt
[09:07] <Holylucifer3> i have a question how do you install a program when useing live cd, i mean when you download from browser and when its done, but it gives me these errors and 2 options for codes O_o
[09:07] <alkali> Seeker2599: Try VLC media player
[09:07] <conorunner> I cannot get higher resolution than  1024x768 on my Nvidia TNT2 32mb video card
[09:08] <jordan> Holylucifer3: What are you trying to install?
[09:08] <Seeker2599> alkali: is there a vlc player for windows?
[09:08] <alkali> conorunner: Can your card handle high resolution?
[09:08] <donaldo> Seeker2599: yes
[09:08] <alkali> Seeker2599: of course
[09:08] <conorunner> I think maybe ubuntu has a default moniter driver installed
[09:08] <Holylucifer3> well im downloading a free game to play on this linux os but not installed its live cd
[09:08] <jordan> !nvidia | conorunner
[09:08] <ubotu> conorunner: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:08] <grant> corbo, think i have the perfect solution, i'm going to setup another pc with twice the system specs of my other one (so that windows runs at the same speed as ubuntu) then i'm going to setup gigabit crossovers between them and use a remote desktop app supporting audio, i think that will work, now where did i put that winning lottery ticket....
[09:08] <conorunner> I can get higher on windows(when it was installed)
[09:08] <Seeker2599> !vlc media player
[09:08] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[09:08] <Seeker2599> anyone have a website for it?
[09:09] <Terminus> Seeker2599: vlc? videolan.org
[09:09] <Seeker2599> thanks
[09:09] <jordan> conorunner: Have you installed the nvidea drivers?
[09:09] <alkali> conorunner: You could google your monitor specs and note the horizontal and vertical refresh rates and modify your xorg.conf
[09:09] <alkali> If VLC can't read it, no one can.
[09:10] <conorunner> I will try the drivers
[09:10] <jordan> !nvidia | conorunner
[09:10] <ubotu> conorunner: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:10] <grant> anyone else find it amusing how search for has now officially been replaced with google? talk about marketing
[09:10] <Corbo> yeah, I like the way MS is trying to rip off google with its Live search
[09:10] <Seeker2599> is there a way i can do somthing like a direct connection between my machines without having to setup a network?
[09:10] <jordan> grant: Actually, for copywrite reasons google would rather not have you "googling" things.
[09:11] <Corbo> seeker, get a crossover cable
[09:11] <donaldo> Seeker2599: really that's basically the definition of a network. connections between machines.
[09:11] <grant> well personally i'm not convinced there there isn't some long term buyout plan for Altavista, hmm.... Altavista....Windows Vista....
[09:11] <conorunner> how can I find out what kernal is installed?
[09:11] <Corbo> you're on to something
[09:11] <Terminus> conorunner: uname -a
[09:11] <conorunner> is it ver at term
[09:11] <conorunner> ok
[09:11] <grant> Windows AltaVista Edition
[09:11] <jordan> conorunner: uname -r
[09:11] <conorunner> thanks
[09:11] <ale[x] > anyone know if it possible to install the beta nvidia drivers and keep the linux restricted package installed?
[09:11] <Flannel> grant, Corbo, take general chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:11] <Corbo> there are already 6 editions!!
[09:12] <Seeker2599> if i connected them with a cat-5 would i be able to transfer files?
[09:12] <kikokos> hi
[09:12] <grant> sorry flannel, done now
[09:12] <Terminus> Seeker2599: yes
[09:12] <Seeker2599> without using a router
[09:12] <Terminus> Seeker2599: yes again
[09:12] <kikokos> what should I do with a "core dumoed" ?
[09:12] <Terminus> Seeker2599: as long as it's a crossover cable. wiring is different.
[09:12] <Corbo> seeker yes, with crossed over cat 5 you don't even need a switch
[09:12] <Flannel> grant: oh, I really don't want you to cut it short, just go to the appropriate channel, that's why it's there, for us to be social
[09:12] <kikokos> core dumped...application crashed with this
[09:12] <bezibaerchen> anyone around who knows about sound in browser (e.g. youtube, pandora) playing fine for a while and then just stopping? --> EDGY
[09:12] <Seeker2599> ok then, but i still would have to go through the network manager wouldnt i
[09:12] <Seeker2599> on windows
[09:13] <Corbo> it's a network yes
[09:13] <Terminus> Seeker2599: of course. you'll have to set ip and stuff.
[09:13] <alkali> kikokos: what were you doing when it said this?
[09:13] <grant> sorry flannel, what room did you say it was?
[09:13] <Terminus> Seeker2599: unless one of the computers is running dhcpd...
[09:13] <jordan> ale[x] : I think that is just a meta-package, I don't think you need it.
[09:13] <Seeker2599> ok this is going to be an adventure
[09:13] <Flannel> grant: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:13] <kikokos> I tried view video file
[09:13] <kikokos> vlc
[09:13] <grant> thanks
[09:13] <alkali> kikokos: probably the file itself.  Do other video's or music play fine
[09:13] <alkali> ?
[09:14] <kikokos> no
[09:14] <kikokos> no other
[09:14] <kikokos> I show you
[09:14] <Terminus> Seeker2599: if you want to make your own cable, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIA/EIA-568-B for the color codes.
[09:14] <ale[x] > i need it for my wireless card but nvidia wants to remove it
[09:15] <Seeker2599> will ubuntu automatically detect my network with my other machine?
[09:15] <Terminus> Seeker2599: that would mean you have your own crimper. if you don't just go to your neighborhood computer store and buy one from them.
[09:15] <alkali> kikokos: If other files play fine it may be that the file that caused the crash is corrupt or you do not have the codec required to view it.
[09:15] <Corbo> who was asking about beryl?
[09:15] <Terminus> Seeker2599: no, unless the other machine is running dhcpd, which it probably won't.
[09:15] <alkali> Corbo: grant was
[09:15] <kikokos> alkali I have codecs....
[09:15] <Corbo> grant: beryl video of it in use: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv_GQxL3T2M
[09:15] <Seeker2599> ok, i will probably be back, i gotta go play with cables
[09:16] <alkali> kikokos: then it was just that file
[09:16] <alkali> damn ati and their lack of well working 3D accel
[09:16] <alkali> I want beryl
[09:16] <kikokos> alakli what this mean "core dumped" it`s info about what?
[09:16] <jordan> alkali: You can have beryl
[09:17] <unikuse1> hey i'm using ati x1600 and beryl is wroking really good on my comp
[09:17] <alkali> kikokos: Basically what it means is there was a failure to read the file and it made the program crash.  And a core dump is done so you don't lose any information or damage your operating system.
[09:18] <Terminus> Seeker2599: ip addresses, gateways, dns, etc. aren't pulled out of thin air. a dhcp server issues those. a router can usually double as a dhcp server. if you don't have any of those, you will have to configure manually.
[09:18] <alkali> jordan: without 3d accel?  Tell me more.
[09:18] <kikokos> alkali that`s grate :)
[09:18] <kikokos> greate
[09:18] <Seeker2599> if i used a router it wouldnt need to be connected to the my dsl line would it?
[09:18] <alkali> kikokos: does that answer your question?
[09:19] <Terminus> Seeker2599: nope.
[09:19] <freakabcd> hi all
[09:19] <freakabcd> anyone here on dapper and using beryl: does 'Fetch Themes' actually get new themes for you in emerald themer ?
[09:19] <jordan> alkali: Set up 3D accell...
[09:20] <alkali> jordan: yea.....you must not have ati
[09:20] <jordan> alkali: I do.
[09:20] <alkali> jordan: which driver set and kernel are you using?
[09:21] <kikokos> yes....but as yet I can`t open any fillms. When I tried open DVD I saw :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30131/
[09:21] <Seeker2599> im going to try one more thing before i set this up, i was using avidemux to trim the files before i transferred them, im going to try an edited file
[09:21] <jordan> alkali: Their xorg script ( and yes thier drivers too ) are crap but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh usually works
[09:21] <hakrzcode> jordan, ATI does not support composite and glx. Turns off glx with composite enabled.
[09:21] <Seeker2599> try with an unedited file*
[09:21] <kikokos> alkali I never see nothing I dont know why it`s that :P?
[09:21] <jordan> hakrzcode: But you can still use XGL
[09:22] <hakrzcode> yes, but isn't Beryl compiz?
[09:22] <kikokos> could you look at this?
[09:22] <alkali> kikokos: You don't see any movies at all?
[09:22] <freakabcd> hakrzcode, beryl is a fork
[09:22] <hakrzcode> yes, but it's main function is composite. Is that not the reason to use it?
[09:22] <jordan> hakrzcode: And XGL does not require texture-from-pixmap only AIGLX
[09:23] <hakrzcode> ic
[09:23] <kikokos> do u see my terminal-log? It is new things in my system...but since 3 days I cannnot watch video
[09:23] <kikokos> I have many strange(?) infomrataion e.x. this
[09:24] <alkali> kikokos: I am unable to see your log.  Can you post it to pastebin?
[09:24] <eXistenZ> !ati
[09:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:24] <ndowens> hmm can't i patch the kernel with more than 1 patch
[09:24] <kikokos> alkali http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30131/
[09:25] <kikokos> alkali totem try play DVD
[09:25] <hakrzcode> kikokos, usually running a video program from command line will usually spit out a reason for not playing.   I don't recommend using it personally.  I use VLC or XINE.
[09:25] <kikokos> alkali I show u from vlc
[09:26] <squidly> alkali: for what dvd's they both rock
[09:26] <squidly> anyone know how to chagne a "server
[09:26] <squidly> anyone know how to chagne a "server" install to the desktop install?
[09:26] <alkali> squidly: totem always crashed on me though.  always.
[09:26] <squidly> alkali: ive never used totem..
[09:26] <alkali> squidly: Add more packages?
[09:26] <alkali> ;-)
[09:26] <squidly> lol alkali
[09:27] <Crazed> is it safe to do a dist upgrade in dapper to get edgy ? :)
[09:27] <squidly> well I was doing a alternate install and it should have gotten me to a "normal" install
[09:27] <alkali> squidly: did you add xorg gnome all that stuff?
[09:27] <squidly> i did add xorg and im adding gnome now
[09:27] <kikokos> alkali vlc try watch DVD http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30133/
[09:27] <alkali> kikokos: Are you sure you have a dvd drive?
[09:28] <Seeker2599> well i solved the problem with transferring my avi's, windows doesnt like them after avidemux trims them
[09:28] <thyko> apache2 seems not to have a httpd.conf. Was it renamed to something else or what?
[09:28] <kikokos> usually I dont use totem but now I try everything :P
[09:28] <squidly> is there a package for the nvidia binary-blob drivers?
[09:28] <kikokos> alkali how I can test it?
[09:28] <hakrzcode> kikokos, running your error through google came up with: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-194746.html
[09:29] <freakabcd> thyko, httpd2.conf ?
[09:29] <hakrzcode> kikokos, look at the solution on that page.
[09:29] <alkali> well dvd drives are mentioned in the hardware section of the manual.  You may have the codecs but if you don't have a dvd drive you can't watch dvds
[09:29] <jpotex> Is 6.10 good for go, even though its a codename on it? It seem to be the only version working with my hardware
[09:29] <squidly> alkali: linux bypasses the dvd encodeing totaly
[09:29] <kikokos> hakrzcode ok
[09:29] <MugginsM> some DVD drives still block Linux
[09:29] <ndowens> how can i patch the kernel with more than 1 patch, i am patching like i am suppose to like the 1st patch 1st and 2nd patch 2nd until i get to the kernel ver i want
[09:29] <alkali> squidly: but he can't use a cd-rw drive and put a dvd in and it read it
[09:30] <MugginsM> but not many
[09:30] <squidly> alkali: oh yea.. umm that would be kinda hard
[09:30] <alkali> his log says it may not be a dvd drive
[09:31] <alkali> kikokos: did you find out if it was a dvd drive?
[09:31] <hakrzcode> alkali, take note that it was reading the DVD. Must be DVD.
[09:31] <squidly> alkali: yea that would kinda say its not a dvd drive
[09:31] <squidly> hakrzcode: not necessarly
[09:31] <squidly> what do you mean by "Reading" it
[09:31] <alkali> not according to his logfile hakrzcode
[09:32] <alkali> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30131/  read line 5
[09:32] <kikokos> alkali I dont understand...
[09:32] <hakrzcode> libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x00000120 <-squidly
[09:32] <kikokos> alkali yes IT WAS DVD
[09:32] <squidly> ok..
[09:32] <kikokos> sorry for letters
[09:32] <squidly> I see.. sorry I didnt have a change to look at your logs kikokos
[09:33] <squidly> i dont ahve a webbrowser installed yet
[09:33] <alkali> kikokos: so you have a dvd-rom drive?
[09:33] <alkali> squidly: mozilla-firefox
[09:33] <squidly> alkali: umm.. I dont even have X and gnome installed/working
[09:33] <kikokos> alkali probably...
[09:33] <alkali> who made your computer?
[09:34] <alkali> I can google the specs
[09:34] <squidly> alkali: I believe them it was  advd
[09:34] <cheesewhiz> Just want to know before I try, is it possible to install Ubuntu to a USB flash drive, and have it boot from it? I know some BIOSes don't support it, but for the ones that do, will it work?
[09:34] <squidly> can you read the disk form anything?
[09:34] <Toma-> cheesewhiz: i belive so yes
[09:34] <alkali> cheesewhiz: server install maybe.  Not a full desktop I don't think
[09:34] <squidly> can you mount it and do you ahve raw access to the disk?
[09:34] <cheesewhiz> alkali: why not?
[09:34] <squidly> cheesewhiz: the desktop does have a "live"cd
[09:35] <squidly> as for a flash drive IDK
[09:35] <cheesewhiz> I wanted a full desktop install on a 1gig flash drive
[09:35] <cheesewhiz> is that possible?
[09:35] <squidly> cheesewhiz: umm there may not be enough room there
[09:35] <alkali> cheesewhiz: I take it back.  It might work
[09:35] <alkali> I was thinking expanded it was more than 1 gig
[09:35] <alkali> thats why you need the swap file
[09:36] <cheesewhiz> alkali: so do you think 1gig is not enough?
[09:36] <hakrzcode> cheesewhiz.. yep, it will work but you will have to tweek with apps, for size.
[09:36] <Seeker2599> is there a windows version of avidemux?
[09:37] <alkali> cheesewhiz: if you can do a server install to the flash drive and add packages you need
[09:37] <rickyfingers> I have a m2npv-vm motherboard with a 64 bit amd dual core, i downloaded the edgy cdrom but I don't get very far in the boot process
[09:37] <hakrzcode> seeker: yes http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/
[09:37] <cheesewhiz> oh..ok..I'm not so much the linux pro...I'll just go with not accidentaly screwing something up....
[09:37] <Seeker2599> thanks hakrzcode
[09:37] <rickyfingers> other distros same problem, but dapper works fine
[09:38] <cheesewhiz> thx
[09:38] <n1gke> Good morning folks.
[09:38] <kraut> moin
[09:38] <hakrzcode> no prob. seeker, usually if you run '"program name" win32' through google, you can usually be delightfully surprised. Do this for alot of my friends.
[09:38] <alkali> kikokos: did you figure out the make and model of your computer?
[09:39] <kikokos> alkali as yet no
[09:39] <n1gke> kikokos, can I help you find that ?
[09:40] <kikokos> alkali its another file in vlc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30134/
[09:41] <kikokos> nlgke yes
[09:41] <hakrzcode> kikokos: What is your video chip? lookitup with lspci from commandline.
[09:41] <leftjustified> howdy :) Anyone here have success running Tribes 2 under ubuntu? From what I've read the win version dies under WINE, but there IS a linux version out there somewhere... I just can't find the files :( I've got a key and all -- it's legit -- just need the game files!
[09:41] <squidly> ahh there we go aptitude to the rescue ^^
[09:42] <n1gke> kikokos, Hi. 1st. If you open a terminal window
[09:42] <Toma-> leftjustified: there is a linux version.
[09:42] <leftjustified> Toma-: I know, but I can't find anywhere to d/l it
[09:42] <Toma-> leftjustified: try playing legends. much better, GPL and more of an online community
[09:42] <n1gke> kikokos, 2nd. In the terminal window type, sudo apt-get hwinfo
[09:42] <leftjustified> Toma-: thanks, will check it out -- playing tribes 2 is more for nostalgia though and I've got buddies who still play it on winbloze
[09:43] <hakrzcode> kikokos, definately looks like you have a new chip. Video buffer size is not recognized probably.
[09:43] <n1gke> kikokos, 3rd. You may have to adjust the parameters for the terminal window to scroll back to 2000  lines as the default is only 500.
[09:43] <me_> what's the difference between add/delete and the package manager?
[09:43] <alkali> kikokos: people with a similar problem did this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-194746.html
[09:43] <squidly> wow.. umm  wow
[09:43] <Seeker2599> thanks for all your help tonight everyone and i applaud your patience with my idiocy
[09:43] <kikokos> hakrzcode i send u it on private
[09:43] <squidly> i have 10 mb free of my gig of ram!!??!!
[09:44] <Toma-> leftjustified: looks like the linux binary was sold seperate... you'd need to buy it (or get a torrent for it)
[09:44] <SpComb> squidly: `free -m`
[09:44] <kikokos> alkali ok i`ll lokk at this
[09:44] <squidly> SpComb: that is the command I used
[09:44] <hakrzcode> nlgke, for resource hogs like me, you can also do 5000, easier just to put another 0 on the end.
[09:44] <SpComb> squidly: linux uses your ram to cache your hard drive instead of letting it sit around useless
[09:44] <hakrzcode> ok
[09:44] <SpComb> squidly: what does it show for +/- cache?
[09:44] <n1gke> kiko4th. After hwinfo does its thing, scroll back toward the top of the informations, you will find absolutely everything about your computer.
[09:44] <squidly> like 100
[09:44] <SpComb> used?
[09:45] <squidly> no used is 992
[09:45] <alkali> kikokos: they had to add lines to their xorg.conf file because the player could not play at high resolutions.  Maybe it will work for you
[09:45] <kikokos> nlgke hwinfo doing nothing
[09:45] <n1gke> hakrzcode, I know, that's what I did, or added enough lines to get the whole information on one page eh.
[09:45] <squidly> SpComb: i know how linux does the caching for scsi drives (and sata drive)
[09:45] <SpComb> squidly: for +/- buffers and cache? Then you have something that's eating a lot of ram :P
[09:45] <alkali> kikokos: or maybe re-installing the nvidia drivers will work.  Who knows.
[09:45] <squidly> im just shocked that its using that much ram!
[09:45] <SpComb> just use top and hit > to get a list of processes sorted by ram use
[09:45] <squidly> even when I had a soruce based linux system it never used that much!
[09:45] <Toma-> leftjustified: btw, tell your friends theres a windows client for legends
[09:46] <hakrzcode> nlgke: that is the first thing I do with a fresh gnome install.
[09:46] <kikokos> alkali ok i try solution from this page
[09:46] <err_> what's the best way to upgrade from ubuntu -> kubuntu?
[09:46] <alkali> kikokos: best of luck.  Let me know how it goes
[09:46] <n1gke> hakrzcode, I do that every time I add either hard or software, and print it out to study the changes.
[09:46] <hakrzcode> err_: apt-get install kubuntu
[09:47] <captine> hi all.  am little stressed.  followed instruction at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809&highlight=bcm4318 for installing wifi network.  now my wireless light is flashing, and my cpu fan is going nuts -- processor running at 90% for last 20minutes.  ???
[09:47] <captine> am on a compaq presario notebook
[09:47] <jordan> err_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <tgelter> hey all, what's the flag to do a "make-kpkg" with many concurrent compile processes at once? (for dual core cpu)
[09:48] <err_> how come you use terminal commands rather than the GUI programs?
[09:48] <alkali> captine: did the wireless work or is it freezing the computer?
[09:48] <squidly> arg new install forgot to run updatedb ><
[09:48] <jordan> err_: They are faster / easier to explain on IRC
[09:48] <captine> alkali: not frozen.  the wireless light just flashes.  how do i check if it works ?? am very new.
[09:49] <jordan> err_: Also I don'
[09:49] <err_> what's the difference between add/remove programs and the synaptic package manager?
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> What do I have to do to get the helvetica font?
[09:49] <jordan> err_: Also I don't know how to do autoremove with a GUI.
[09:49] <alkali> captine: Go to firefox or a web browser and see if you have internet
[09:49] <squidly> so far though I'm loveing ubunto
[09:49] <squidly> ive got a server at work running it with nagios^^
[09:50] <err_> what's better, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:50] <n1gke> hakrzcode, I am using two computers 'ere, both with i686-SMP.
[09:50] <ndowens> squidly: is ubuntu ur first linux?
[09:50] <jordan> err_: That is subjective
[09:50] <captine> alkali:       that means i must disconnect the wired device, cos i am in the internet.  can wire and wireless run at same time?
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> err_: Personal preference
[09:50] <alkali> err_: better question.  Which one do you think is prettier?
[09:50] <err_> not sure, which one is more mac os x like?
[09:50] <Pizza> hello :]
[09:51] <ndowens> hello
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> err_: Either, depending on how you configure them.
[09:51] <alkali> err_: lol whichever one you download the theme for.  But honestly.  E17 is the most like mac OSX
[09:51] <n1gke> hakrzcode, This computer is the HP Kayak XU800 with two 733 Mhz CPU.
[09:51] <meton_magis> i've got a problem installing my games from Loki, anyone wanna be nice and help me??
[09:51] <Pizza> I've got a problem while updating to Edgy -> apt-get says  it can't replace "libGL.so.1" with different file "libGL.so.1.xlibmesa" <-- any ideas ?
[09:51] <err_> where do i find out about themes?
[09:51] <alkali> captine: You do have to disconnect wired connection, restart your computer, and test the internet.  Unless you have a wep password and then you have to enter it
[09:51] <hakrzcode> ok nlgke: I will run through google.
[09:51] <squidly> ndowens: not by a long shot
[09:51] <jordan> Pizza: You shouldn't use apt to upgrade.
[09:52] <squidly> just my first debian type distro
[09:52] <Pizza> jordan: what else ?
[09:52] <ndowens> squidly: me either
[09:52] <alkali> By the way.....when is E-17 gonna be ready for ubuntu?
[09:52] <captine> alkali: will try, but why would my processor be running at max?? any ideas?
[09:52] <squidly> I used to develop for smgl
[09:52] <n1gke> err_, try this: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[09:52] <ndowens> squidly: i am on gentoo but waiting on my ubuntu cd
[09:52] <err_> how come ubuntu doesn't automatically come with something in the GUI that shows my internet connect?
[09:52] <squidly> ndowens: dl your ubuntu cd ^^
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> err_: art.gnome.org and gnome-look.org for Gnome, there's a kdelook too
[09:52] <squidly> that is what I did
[09:52] <ndowens> squidly: dialup
[09:52] <jordan> Pizza: gksu "update-manager -c" but it may be too late, thigs may already be screwed up.
[09:53] <Pizza> jordan: used it
[09:53] <squidly> ouch.. ok umm.. never mind.
[09:53] <Ayabara> I helped find a patch for the dapper kernel that I miss in edgy. Is it possible to find out what that patch was? I was registered with an email
[09:53] <Pizza> jordan: but it says I should fix the problem with apt-get -f install
[09:53] <ndowens> squidly: lol yup
[09:53] <alkali> captine: that could be  number of things.  That usually means the processor is tapped out with information so a restart might do it some good with the wired internet disconnected .  Just try and if it doesn't work swing back in here.
[09:53] <err_> ty guys
[09:53] <err_> btw whats hte difference b/w add/remove and the synaptic package manager???
[09:53] <squidly> ndowens: how can you live on dialup??
[09:53] <captine> alkali: cool
[09:53] <Pizza> jordan: but I think the most things are really screwed up :D
[09:53] <jordan> Pizza: I thought you meant you used apt-get dist upgrade when you said you used apt, sorry :)
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> err_: Add/Remove just has some common things but is pretty; Synaptic has everything but is a little more intimidating
[09:54] <Pizza> jordan: you needn't to feel sorry
[09:54] <ndowens> squidly: it is not by choice, it's not my home and well it's beats nothing, using my boost mobile phone connected to my pc
[09:54] <alkali> Anyone know when the new enlightenment will be released?
[09:54] <squidly> ndowens: lol ouch
[09:54] <squidly> alkali: is E17 stable and released yet?
[09:54] <alkali> squidly: that's what I was curious about
[09:55] <squidly> alkali: check the enlightnment website ^^ last time I checked itw as not
[09:55] <Ayabara> Is there a development channel or something for ubuntu, or should I just keep bugging people here to submit a patch to the kernel?
[09:55] <squidly> Ayabara: try the mailing lists
[09:55] <alkali> squidly: yea but it seems like it's not gonna be.  I got to play with it in vectorlinux and it was BEAUTIFUL
[09:55] <HeathenDan> does anyone here even have a say on the kernel?
[09:55] <n1gke> alkali, wow, did I have a mis-understanding with enlightenment, but I wish to try it again.....
[09:55] <squidly> that is how most distor deal with use submitted batches
[09:55] <crimsun> Ayabara: -devel is our development channel. -kernel is our kernel channel.
[09:56] <crimsun> HeathenDan: yes.
[09:56] <HeathenDan> ahh, besides you
[09:56] <Pizza> jordan: hm, I think it's not a problem of apt-get, but rather of the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[09:56] <squidly> alkali: i played with it a bit.. i didnt like it all that much
[09:56] <alkali> n1gke: e16 and e17 are two different creatures
[09:56] <HeathenDan> cause you come and go :p
[09:56] <crimsun> HeathenDan: well, yes. The "community" does.
[09:56] <squidly> n1gke: dog=e16 cat=e17
[09:56] <jamj> it's needed hardware acceleration to run compiz?
[09:56] <WindDragon> for the new adobe flash player for linux: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[09:56] <Ayabara> crimsun: ok. like I said I helped with a patch for dapper that is missing in edgy. maybe kernel is the right channel then?
[09:56] <alkali> squidly: it was so much less processor and memory intensive than anything else out right now and it was nice looking too
[09:56] <squidly> dog > cat ^^
[09:56] <squidly> alkali: try fluxbox
[09:57] <n1gke> brb, I need more coffee....
[09:57] <crimsun> Ayabara: the most efficient procedure is to file a bug against linux-source-2.6.17 and attach the patch
[09:57] <jordan> jamj: Yes.
[09:57] <squidly> memory foot print of less then 50k!
[09:57] <jamj> ok thxs
[09:57] <Gurpartap> irrelevant question, how do i register an irc channel where i have missed to be an operator?
[09:57] <alkali> squidly: I'm a fan of me clicking on something and it running.  Gnome programs run in gnome.  KDE in KDE.  Some in fluxbox some not.
[09:57] <Ayabara> crimsun: problem is I don't remember the patch. all i did was describe it and test the solution when a good helper found it :-)
[09:58] <squidly> alkali: really? ive never had any problems with fluxbox
[09:58] <Ayabara> describe the problem, that is
[09:58] <Gurpartap> anyone?
[09:58] <xyzone> what package installs the "play" command?
[09:58] <HeathenDan> ./chanserv register #channame <-- i think
[09:58] <HeathenDan> you can try /chanserv help first
[09:58] <crimsun> Ayabara: and what problem is that?
[09:58] <squidly> HeathenDan: /msg chanserv iirc
[09:59] <hakrzcode> kikokos, your video is Matrox G250 8MB ram?
[09:59] <Gurpartap> HeathenDan: You are not a channel operator on [#channame]
[09:59] <crimsun> Ayabara: do you have a prior bugzilla/launchpad bug #?
[09:59] <squidly> oh anyone got nvidia SLI working with ubuntu?
[09:59] <alkali> squidly: It's just that unless you have the library files for fluxbox for the program you want to run, it won't run
[09:59] <HeathenDan> ahh, yeah... it depends on the network
[09:59] <alkali> and I love gnomebaker
[09:59] <Gurpartap> HeathenDan: it also says: The channel [#channame]  is not registered
[09:59] <alkali> a lot
[09:59] <Gurpartap> its on freenode
[09:59] <squidly> alkali: that is an install issues
[09:59] <alkali> I'm all about some danishes!
[09:59] <squidly> lol
[10:00] <squidly> ahh blast forgot to install screen ><
[10:00] <sioux> who's calvino.freenode
[10:00] <Ayabara> crimsun: maybe. I don't know how the procedure is, but my email was registered. maybe it is possible to find it from that
[10:00] <HeathenDan> type /chanserv help register
[10:00] <squidly> sioux: iirc that is a freenode server
[10:00] <Gurpartap> ok
[10:01] <squidly> ok well im off to bed.. must get sleep
[10:01] <crimsun> Ayabara: ok, finding a needle in a haystack...
[10:01] <squidly> thanks everyone see you around
[10:01] <xyzone> no one knows how to play a sound from terminal?
[10:01] <saphrim> artsplay
[10:02] <hakrzcode> xyzone 'play /path/to/soundfile'
[10:02] <crimsun> xyzone: what type of sound?
[10:02] <sioux> squidly and what it wants to me?
[10:02] <crimsun> sound file, rather.
[10:02] <xyzone> hakrzcode, play is not installed
[10:02] <Ayabara> crimsun: ok. the problem is: on Dell Inspiron there is media keys on the front. When you plug in a headset, these keys should control headset volume instead of internal speaker volume. now they control internal speaker all the time.
[10:02] <xyzone> crimsun, wav, mp3, ogg
[10:02] <flasher> how do i kill a program?
[10:02] <craigermendel> join #/ubuntu
[10:02] <crimsun> Ayabara: "now" referring to Edgy?
[10:02] <flasher> if i don't know the program's PID?
[10:03] <ndowens> flasher: u can do killall PROG
[10:03] <saphrim> type 'ps ax'
[10:03] <flasher> ndowens: thanks
[10:03] <saphrim> and look for the pid
[10:03] <alkali> flasher: open a terminal type '"xkill" and click the program you want to stop.  Immediately.
[10:03] <crimsun> Ayabara: I've worked on millions of audio patches, so forgive me if I require more detail than that.
[10:03] <sioux> is it a way to see if there are some malitius code running in a ghost mode?
[10:03] <hakrzcode> xyzone: holdon.. forgot the package name.
[10:03] <flasher> alkali: i tried that but it didn't work
[10:03] <flasher> ndowens: that worked
[10:03] <flasher> thanks
[10:03] <ndowens> WC
[10:04] <alkali> try "killall (name of application)"
[10:04] <ndowens> sorry
[10:04] <ndowens> wc
[10:04] <flasher> what's wc?
[10:04] <hakrzcode> xyzone: install sox, and then do the above.
[10:04] <flasher> alkali: yes, that's what worked
[10:04] <gansinho> hello, there is how to change from openoffice to abiword as the default word processor?
[10:04] <ndowens> welcome
[10:04] <alkali> sorry I'm slow
[10:04] <xyzone> hakrzcode, sox, thanks
[10:04] <Ayabara> crimsun: "now"? I run edgy now, if thats what you ask. I'm not looking to find the previous patch, as long as it can be fixed again :-).
[10:04] <n1gke> !wc
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <eliphas__> hello
[10:05] <hakrzcode> flasher: wc = word count. Really useful in scripts.
[10:05] <Ayabara> crimsun: ahh. now means edgy. it worked fine then, with "then" meaning dapper :-)
[10:06] <craigermendel> Anyone have time to guide me through an installation of RealPlayer in edgy?
[10:06] <alkali> I'm so mad. I want DR 17 to be finished
[10:06] <crimsun> Ayabara: ok, we seem to be livelocked here. I know approximately what you're referring to, but you need to provide either 1) a link to the patch for Dapper, or 2) your ``lspci -nv && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer'' (use pastebin)
[10:06] <xyzone> does anyone here use hardware midi on emu10kx (sound blaster etc)? midi is channels are being mixed on the right side only
[10:06] <zic> i have a problem with a theme, i downloded from gnome-look beryl theme and when i hit the install button it says that the format is invalid
[10:07] <Simian__> where is loopback stored
[10:07] <cryptonic> has anyone got wengophone 2.0 working on ubuntu?
[10:07] <ademan> !ipv6
[10:07] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:07] <kees-jan> Hi
[10:07] <zic> i have a problem with a theme, i downloded from gnome-look beryl theme and when i hit the install button it says that the format is invalid. the file format is tar.gz
[10:08] <Ayabara> !pastebin
[10:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:08] <zic> anyone can help me please?
[10:08] <ademan> zic: if you're using the theme manager (system->preferences->theme) that is for metacity not compiz
[10:08] <zic> ademan: uh ok
[10:08] <ademan> zic: instead use system->preferences->emerald theme manager
[10:08] <err_> when i get kubuntu-desktop from synaptic package manager it asks me to insert my ubuntu install CD, how come? shouldn't I be able to download everything?
[10:08] <benny> hello :)
[10:09] <ademan> err_: totally, using the paste site can you show us your  /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:09] <scamboy> hello!!
[10:09] <Ayabara> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30137/
[10:09] <craigermendel> need some help installing a program
[10:09] <alkali> craigermendel: what program
[10:09] <err_> ademan, where do I find that last?
[10:09] <err_> ademan, list, sorry
[10:09] <benny> anybody ever uninstalled xorg-driver-flgrx !?
[10:10] <kikokos> hakrzcode yes my video card has 8 MB RAM
[10:10] <ademan> /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <kikokos> alkali it didnt help me i did may instructyions from thsi page but nothing
[10:10] <ademan> new to ubuntu/linux ?
[10:10] <scamboy> jordan: i am downloading update now....is there a breezy +1??? coz it seems my breezy is 5.10 and its updating to another version before edgy..
[10:10] <crimsun> Ayabara: eh? I fixed that in Edgy.
[10:11] <crimsun> Ayabara: .type = AC97_TUNE_HP_MUTE_LED /* cf. Malone #41015 */
[10:11] <alkali> kikokos: they said later in the page it may be a bug in the program so there is currently no solution until they upgrade the program
[10:11] <Abnerian> *sigh* I managed to make a bootable USB key.
[10:11] <Abnerian> ...then I learned the awful truth.
[10:11] <Abnerian> Indeed, I have been struck by LILO.
[10:11] <kikokos> alkali but it is on my every video program...
[10:11] <kikokos> this is a bigbug?
[10:11] <Abnerian> I get L 99 99 99 99 99.
[10:12] <Abnerian> So
[10:12] <Abnerian> How the hell do I get rid of LILO?
[10:12] <Abnerian> Why does LILO even exist?
[10:12] <Abnerian> srsly
[10:12] <scamboy> !LILO
[10:12] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[10:12] <alkali> I know.  Did you try re-installing new nvidia drivers?
[10:12] <c421> rs  temps
[10:12] <Ayabara> crimsun: is that a line of code?
[10:12] <hakrzcode> kikokos: have you tried to put the 8MB into your xorg.conf?
[10:12] <Abnerian> I know
[10:12] <Abnerian> I have LILO.
[10:12] <Abnerian> I want it gone.
[10:12] <Abnerian> As it L 99's at me.
[10:13] <scamboy> !find lilo
[10:13] <ubotu> Found: elilo, lilo, lilo-doc, lilo-config
[10:13] <Abnerian> And I can do absolutely nothing till it goes away
[10:13] <Abnerian> No, look
[10:13] <Abnerian> I have no working OS on that machin
[10:13] <kikokos> hakrzode no
[10:13] <Abnerian> e
[10:13] <Seeker2599> ok this is probably not the best place to ask this, but does anyone know of a good free avi splitter for windows besides avidemux?
[10:13] <crimsun> Ayabara: yes.
[10:13] <hakrzcode> aberian: apt-get remove --purge lilo && update-grub
[10:13] <scamboy> !uninstall lilo
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall lilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <Abnerian> This machine has no optical drive and no network connection. It has no OS.
[10:13] <xyzone> mkvtoolsnix Seeker2599
[10:13] <kikokos> hakrzcode x11/xorg,fiel -yes?
[10:14] <Abnerian> The only way to talk to it is via USB
[10:14] <saphrim> you may need to install a master boot record over lilo
[10:14] <Abnerian> how
[10:14] <kikokos> x11/xorg.file
[10:14] <saphrim> this can be dangerous
[10:14] <err_> ah i see, i had the cd listed as a repository
[10:14] <Abnerian> The drive has nothing valuable on it.
[10:14] <Seeker2599> thanks xyzone
[10:14] <Abnerian> just tell me how to get rid of LILO
[10:14] <err_> how do i switch between kubuntu and ubuntu, and will there be any problems having both on my machine?
[10:14] <Abnerian> i want an empty drive
[10:14] <craigermendel> is there a default password for su until you set one?
[10:14] <Abnerian> Just...empty.
[10:15] <Ayabara> crimsun: ok. it doesn't work here. "Master" is controlled all the time. If I remember right, the "Headphone" control disappeared after the patch was done in dapper. Anyway, I can live with it, but if you want to debug more I'm glad to help.
[10:15] <saphrim> do you have a dos disk?
[10:15] <Abnerian> No floppy disk, save for emulating one via USB stick
[10:15] <saphrim> it was at one time fdisk /mbr
[10:15] <saphrim> i think
[10:15] <Seeker2599> xyzone: do you have a site for that?
[10:15] <kikokos> hakrzcode I sent u on private info from my xorg.file
[10:15] <saphrim> and that would install lilo
[10:15] <saphrim> or uninstall
[10:16] <crimsun> Ayabara: the patch that I applied binds Master and Headphone into one control
[10:16] <ndowens> what kernel version does edgy come with
[10:16] <saphrim> but it replaces it with a dos boot loader instead
[10:16] <crimsun> Ayabara: are you using any additions to /etc/modprobe.d/* ?
[10:16] <andreas__> now I'm confused. xgl compiz/ Xgl Beryl / Beryl AIGLX ... what should I install?
[10:16] <xyzone> Seeker2599, if you have the universe/multiverse repos enabled try searching for mkv in the packages,
[10:16] <crimsun> ndowens: <IP_ADDRESS> + patches
[10:16] <benny> is it possible to remove the xorg-driver-fglrx !?!?
[10:16] <ndowens> ah
[10:16] <Ayabara> crimsun: don't know that it means, so probably not.
[10:17] <benny> is it possible to remove the xorg-driver-fglrx !?!?
[10:17] <scamboy> !find xorg
[10:17] <ubotu> Found: libglu1-xorg-dev, xorg, xorg-dev, xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-core (and 77 others)
[10:18] <benny> it is not
[10:18] <benny> bye
[10:18] <scamboy> !uninstal xorg
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstal xorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <Cypher> hi all
[10:19] <Cypher> surfs up dudes
[10:19] <scamboy> hi!!!
[10:19] <alkali> Orange juice.  Fluxbox.  Bedtime.  Later all.
[10:19] <Cypher> whats new
[10:19] <ndowens> crimsun: well it doesn't come with the sources does it, for the kernel
[10:19] <scamboy> !offtopic|alkali
[10:19] <ubotu> alkali: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:19] <Abnerian> saphrim: Where can I find a MS-DOS img file?
[10:20] <saphrim> it probably comes on a boot disk
[10:20] <saphrim> oh
[10:20] <capnPant1> hi everybody
[10:20] <saphrim> when you format a disk
[10:20] <saphrim> there's an option
[10:20] <Abnerian> Right click > Format > "Create MS-DOS boot disk" is greyed out
[10:20] <Abnerian> I know
[10:20] <Cypher> Abnerian: in every windows u can make boot flopy to maintain ur system
[10:20] <Abnerian> It's greyed out >.>
[10:20] <saphrim> no theres more than that
[10:20] <saphrim> because you need fdisk on the disk
[10:21] <john> how do you install mPlayer mozilla plugin in gNewSense?
[10:21] <Abnerian> I don't understand. I just want LILO gone.
[10:21] <UmbraAdmin> something here mayby -> http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
[10:21] <gansinho> hello, there is how to change from openoffice to abiword as the default word processor?
[10:21] <crimsun> Ayabara: what make & model laptop?
[10:22] <jordan> scamboy: Sorry for the late response, It will upgrade you to Dapper first, then Edgy.
[10:22] <crimsun> ndowens: sorry, please rephrase your question
[10:22] <ndowens> gansinho: are u using gnome
[10:22] <saphrim> here
[10:22] <saphrim> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315224
[10:22] <Ayabara> crimsun: Dell Inspiron 6000
[10:22] <saphrim> ewww microsoft- yes
[10:22] <saphrim> but that will solve your problem
[10:22] <ndowens> crimsun: does edgy come with the kernel sources
[10:22] <Arafangion> How do I adjust the sound in KDE?
[10:22] <Abnerian> Thank you very much
[10:22] <crimsun> ndowens: no.
[10:22] <ndowens> crimsun: darn
[10:22] <saphrim> lilo -u /dev/hda
[10:22] <ademan> !ipv6
[10:22] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:23] <scamboy> jordan: thanks..
[10:23] <ndowens> !apt
[10:23] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:23] <Abnerian> Okay
[10:23] <john> how do you install mPlayer mozilla plugin in gNewSense?
[10:24] <UmbraAdmin> when i do apt-get install vlc in Ubuntu why does it remove almost all my system files ?
[10:24] <UmbraAdmin> done it twise
[10:24] <scamboy> !find vlc
[10:24] <ubotu> Found: libvlc0, libvlc0-dev, mozilla-plugin-vlc, vlc, vlc-nox (and 8 others)
[10:24] <Arafangion> I have *NO SOUND*
[10:24] <Arafangion> How do I turn it on, in KDE?
[10:24] <scamboy> !soundcard
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <Abnerian> Ugh
[10:25] <Abnerian> I cannot get it to boot from USB
[10:25] <Abnerian> No matter what
[10:25] <ndowens> Arafangion: u can get alsa-mixer or use the speaker in the taskbar
[10:25] <cherubiel> !sound
[10:25] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:25] <Abnerian> It's set to boot "Removable device" first
[10:25] <Kengur> hi ppl
[10:25] <lenovox> hehe
[10:25] <Abnerian> but it just loads LILO
[10:26] <Kengur> can anyone help out with installation problem?
[10:26] <gansinho> ndowens, yes, I'm using gnome
[10:26] <UmbraAdmin> Abnerian dont you have to set that in bios
[10:26] <method|> why is adept updater requesting that i remove nvidia-glx?
[10:26] <ndowens> gansinho: go to desktop preferences and u will see a option for perfered applications
[10:26] <Arafangion> ndowens: I do not have a speaker on the taskbar.
[10:26] <scamboy> kengur ask
[10:27] <crimsun> Ayabara: ah, ouch
[10:27] <gansinho> ndowens, thanks a lot
[10:27] <Arafangion> ndowens: Additionally, alsamixer didn't change anything.
[10:27] <crimsun> Ayabara: looks like our kernel lead accidentally nuked my patch in Edgy when alsa-current was pulled in.
[10:27] <Kengur> i have nforce 3 sata drive that shows out as SCSI... i didn't have any problems with 6.06 (x64) but when i try 6.10 (x86) it shows no SCSI options (the 2 other when partititioning) and it doesn't find any hard drives
[10:27] <Ayabara> crimsun: would explain it :-)
[10:28] <saphrim> okay Abnerian
[10:28] <ndowens> Arafangion: sorry i don't have kde or i would tell u exactly where to go
[10:28] <saphrim> you need to direct the fdisk to the removable disk
[10:28] <Arafangion> ndowens: Well, how does Gnome manage to do it?
[10:28] <saphrim> because its probably booting lilo off the removable disk- is that possible?
[10:28] <ndowens> mine has a speaker
[10:28] <habeeb> Tried "emerald --replace" but X restarted and now its the same shit.
[10:28] <Abnerian> No
[10:28] <Arafangion> ndowens: So does mine
[10:28] <Abnerian> It's booting lilo off the HD
[10:28] <Cypher> kengur: man what distro did u downlaod
[10:29] <scamboy> scsi???
[10:29] <ndowens> Arafangion: then try and turn the volume up with it
[10:29] <saphrim> hmmm thats some pretty odd stuff
[10:29] <Arafangion> ndowens: I've only got the speaker in gnome :(
[10:29] <crimsun> Ayabara: this is the patch that restores Dapper's behavior: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2006-October/001088.html
[10:29] <ademan> !ipv6
[10:29] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:29] <Cypher> what lilo ubuntu uses Grub
[10:29] <Abnerian> LILO sucks.
[10:29] <Abnerian> It's awful.
[10:29] <Arafangion> Abnerian: It still has some advantages.
[10:29] <scamboy> !grub
[10:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:29] <Cypher> amen to that man
[10:30] <Abnerian> there is no advantage to the L 99 error
[10:30] <Abnerian> none
[10:30] <Kengur> scamboy: when chosing partitioning scheme it gives 3 options, the other 2 say scsi, so i assume it shows the drive as scsi, but it's a sata one
[10:30] <ndowens> Arafangion: right click on the speaker and open volume control
[10:30] <n1gke> This is so cool in Ubuntu. I have NO icons on the desktop whatsoever....
[10:30] <Cypher> grub is fine easy to use configure and stuff :))
[10:30] <Arafangion> ndowens: Which program provides the speaker?
[10:30] <Cypher> alsa drv
[10:30] <progek> Hello everyone, I am currently using gtkpod for placing songs onto my ipod. Does anyone know of a good app to place videos on my ipod?
[10:30] <Arafangion> Abnerian: Ubuntu's lilo support is crap, but it still has advantages.
[10:30] <scamboy> kengur: what u mean scsi???
[10:30] <drumline_> So is 6.10 really nice?
[10:31] <scamboy> drumline: no!!!
[10:31] <Cypher> it must be
[10:31] <manfred22> no, drumline_
[10:31] <manfred22> use debian
[10:31] <manfred22> !!
[10:31] <Cypher> its new and sparky
[10:31] <Arafangion> Abnerian: For starters, with grub, you /have/ to use ext3, and few other partition formats, and you cannot have your system live entirely on LVM, etc.
[10:31] <sn00p> has anybody tried to install ubuntu 6.10 amd64 yet?
[10:31] <Arafangion> sn00p: I'm sure someone, somewhere has.
[10:31] <drumline_> scamboy: ok.. I'll use debian
[10:31] <Ayabara> crimsun: ok. should I apply it myself or just wait for the patch. seem to recall a command line thingy that fixed it for me last time. you know how that oneliner would look?
[10:31] <Kengur> uh, there's ide and there's scsi drives, right?
[10:31] <Cypher> manfred22: debian is 14 CD !!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:31] <pgurumur> has anyone faced a problem like this on ubuntu "user not allowed because shell ::: does not exist" on a nis env?
[10:31] <manfred22> lol Cypher
[10:31] <Cypher> its akiller
[10:31] <Arafangion> Cypher: You don't ha -- Haha! :)
[10:31] <sn00p> Arafangion, well I have and it freezes
[10:31] <manfred22> Cypher, use network install
[10:31] <Cypher> all the gnu stuff in it
[10:31] <manfred22> 150 mb
[10:32] <manfred22> :p
[10:32] <lenovox> oh oh
[10:32] <Arafangion> Cypher: ALmsot tricked me :)