[19:25] <ohmy> dear all, i've an issue in QtMultimedia related to gstreamer, in fact gstreamer 1.0 pipeline works well but not 0.1, in example : gst-launch-1.0 playbin uri=file:/// works perfectly, however gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=file:/// doesnt and gives me** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, mpegaudioversion=(int)1, layer=(int)3, rate=(int)44100, channels=(int)2, parsed=(boolean)true
[19:25] <ohmy> ERROR: from element /GstPlayBin:playbin0: You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins
[19:25] <ohmy> can anyone try on his machine please ? or anyone have an idea please ?
[19:28] <alkisg> ohmy: I'm not experienced in gstreamer, but I imagine you only have the 1.0 plugins installed, and not the 0.10 ones
[19:28] <alkisg> dpkg -l '*gstreamer*' | grep ^ii, will tell you
[19:28] <alkisg> That's the default in 16.04, to only have the 1.0 plugins
[19:29] <ohmy> alkisg: i've both, i've tried apt-cache search anything gstreamer in installed 0.1 and 1.0 aswell
[19:30] <ohmy> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21044831/
[19:31] <alkisg> ohmy: which variant handles that file? maybe it's in "ugly", which you don't have installed?
[19:32] <alkisg> (or in 0.10-bad, which you also don't have...)
[19:33] <energizer> Does ack-grep take regex for the directory field?
[19:35] <energizer> I woulda thought ack-grep flymake ".*theme.*" would give the same as ack-grep flymake *theme*, but it it doesnt
[19:44] <emankcin> Anyone here have experience with partition types and mdadm?
[19:44] <bekks> A lot of people do.
[19:44] <alkisg> !ask | emankcin:
[19:47] <emankcin> Oh right, sorry. Been a while since I've been here. Alright.. I set up a RAID 1 array on two disks through mdadm with partition type 'Linux' (83), forgetting to set them to raid autodetect type (fd). I'm wondering if this might affect array detection if the array migrates to another system. Is it possible to use fdisk to change the ID to 'fd' without losing data?
[19:48] <vlyalcin> hi to all
[19:48] <vlyalcin> I am getting error during "apt-get update"
[19:48] <vlyalcin> "some index files failed to download. they have been ignored or old ones used instead"
[19:48] <vlyalcin> ubuntu 16.04
[19:49] <vlyalcin> what is wrong with my repo?
[19:49] <k1l_> vlyalcin: put all the exact output onto paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[19:49] <vlyalcin> ok
[19:49] <emankcin> might want to include your sources.list
[19:50] <OerHeks> emankcin, lets see his update output first :-)
[19:51] <vlyalcin> @kll_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/21047559/
[19:52] <vlyalcin> there is some turkish lines. is it understandable?
[19:53] <alkisg> vlyalcin: remove ubuntu-mate-dev from your sources, it's invalid
[19:53] <k1l_> the mate dev  ppa doesnt have a xenial support right now. dont know if that is the way it should be.
[19:53] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[19:53] <emankcin> vlyalcin, '404' is the same in all languages hehe
[19:53] <k1l_> vlyalcin: you could ask in #ubuntu-mate if that is meant to be that way
[19:53] <OerHeks> it is i guess, no xenial versions
[19:54] <k1l_> yeah, maybe someone from the devs removed it by accident. i dont know. they should know
[19:54] <OerHeks> vlyalcin, use ppa-purge to remove that ppa and reverse to the original mate packages
[19:55] <vlyalcin> emankcin: thank you for reply but "E: Bazı indeks dosyaları indirilemedi. Bu dosyalar yok sayıldılar ya da önceki sürümleri kullanıldı." is that same for all language too? anyway
[19:55] <Xmrd> any know about SDR
[19:55] <tatertots> hello everyone need some help with i/o redirection of a command to file. 'ssh-keygen'
[19:56] <bekks> tatertots: what do you mean exactly?
[19:56] <tatertots> if i redirect stdout and stderr to file i can't stdin
[19:56] <emankcin> I'll try changing the partition type to 'fd' and see what happens. I have a data backup and rebuilding the array wont take long. Just the rsync after could take some time. Will report back.
[19:56] <bekks> tatertots: wh do you redirect at all?
[19:57] <tatertots> i want to run 'ssh-keygen' and capture the whole thing to file
[19:57] <bekks> tatertots: What for?
[19:57] <emankcin> use the > pipe
[19:57] <tatertots> making a tutorial
[19:57] <bekks> tatertots: make a screenshot or copy/paste the output.
[19:58] <vlyalcin> alkisg: thank you
[19:58] <vlyalcin> k1l_: thank you
[19:58] <vlyalcin> OerHeks: thank you
[19:58] <OerHeks> vlyalcin, have fun!
[19:58] <vlyalcin> but not solved yet :)
[19:58] <vlyalcin> first I wanted to say thank you
[19:58] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[19:58] <vlyalcin> how can I revert to original..
[19:59] <k1l_> vlyalcin: you should rearange your mate PPAs anyway. they got a ppa for xenial. and you are using a mix of old ones. but in #ubuntu-mate they will tell you which to use best
[19:59] <Karrde> 14.04 -> 16.04.1  do-release-upgrade enabled soon?
[19:59] <bekks> Karrde: In a week.
[19:59] <OerHeks> !ltsupgrade
[19:59] <k1l_> Karrde: it was delayed for one week.
[19:59] <rajivmars> i have downloaded the .deb file of virtualbox 5.1 in the Download directory. How do i install it now?
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> rajivmars  dpkg -i blah.deb
[20:00] <Karrde> so, yes?
[20:00] <bekks> rajivmars: BY following the installation instructions given in the virtualbox website.
[20:01] <Xmrd> need help about  OpenBTS
[20:01] <Xmrd> ?
[20:02] <bekks> Xmrd: we dont know, do you need help with OpenBTS?
[20:02] <Xmrd> ya OpenBTS
[20:03] <bekks> Xmrd: You might want to ask your question then.
[20:03] <Xmrd> yap i got some error can't fix it
[20:03] <Xmrd> can u lookup
[20:03] <bekks> Xmrd: Dont ask wether someone can lookup, ask your question. :)
[20:05] <Xmrd> EMERG<PHONE_NUMBER> 02:04:44.0 OpenBTS.cpp:151:startTransceiver: cannot find ./transceiver
[20:05] <Xmrd> EMERG<PHONE_NUMBER> 02:04:44.0 OpenBTS.cpp:156:startTransceiver: Transceiver quit with status 256. Exiting.
[20:05] <bekks> Xmrd: there is no such file "./transceiver".
[20:06] <emankcin> Changed partition type to 'fd' in fdisk. Data still appears unaffected. I'll run diff to verify.
[20:06] <Xmrd> after fix
[20:06] <Xmrd> Starting the system...
[20:06] <Xmrd> ALERT<PHONE_NUMBER> 01:48:09.2 TRXManager.cpp:595:getFactoryCalibration: READFACTORY failed with status -1
[20:06] <Xmrd> ALERT<PHONE_NUMBER> 01:48:09.2 TRXManager.cpp:476:setTSC: SETTSC failed with status -1
[20:06] <Xmrd> ALERT<PHONE_NUMBER> 01:48:09.2 TRXManager.cpp:446:powerOn: POWERON failed with status -22
[20:06] <Xmrd><PHONE_NUMBER>.310801<PHONE_NUMBER>:
[20:06] <bekks> emankcin: fdisk changes the partition table entry, no thing else.
[20:07] <emankcin> bekks, I had a suspicion it wouldn't affect much, just a flag of sorts. Just couldn't google any verification of such. Thanks!
[20:17] <vlyalcin> k1l_: I asked my question to ubuntu-mate channel and solved. thank you
[20:18] <rajivmars> can i install two Desktop environment on ubuntu 16.04?
[20:19] <Murii> anyone here experienced with ATI drivers?
[20:19] <k1l_> rajivmars: yes. you can choose which to use on the login screen
[20:20] <rajivmars> k1l_: is there any problem after installing other DE?
[20:20] <k1l_> rajivmars: what do you mean?
[20:21] <Murii> Anyway. I got an thinkpad x120e which had windows 7 on it and everything went well on it(playing videos in full hd and gaming). Now I installed lubuntu and I can't even play full hd videos, I get lag even at 720p
[20:21] <extinct_potato> rajivmars, it depends, but the rule of thumb is that don't install gnome along mate for example
[20:21] <extinct_potato> by the way, what DE do you want to install rajivmars?
[20:22] <OerHeks> extinct_potato, that is not true. there is no rule of thumb with those 2 DE's
[20:22] <rajivmars> k1l_: i mean installing other DE affects the performance of the computer or its fine?
[20:22] <k1l_> rajivmars: its fine
[20:22] <extinct_potato> OerHeks thanks for correcting me. I thought there had been some conflicts between two od them.
[20:23] <emankcin> rajivmars, It just takes more space for packages related to each DE
[20:23] <emankcin> rajivmars, Apart from that, you can try out whatever you want and purge DE-specific packages for whatever you don't like using
[20:24] <extinct_potato> 'apt-get purge' is a very handy utility but use it with extra care.
[20:25] <OerHeks> adding a DE is no problem, removing one can be a hassle
[20:25] <akik> extinct_potato: kde and unity didn't play well together in 16.04. haven't tried with 16.04.1
[20:25] <emankcin> OerHeks, agreed
[20:26] <emankcin> Is Unity still the default for ubuntu desktop?
[20:26] <extinct_potato> akik, yes, that's true.
[20:27] <transhuman> hi my sql database fails to upgrade on a version upgrade to latest because I have host name duplicates upper and lower case. This is a problem I have seen mention of but don't know a fix ...anyone?
[20:27] <k1l_> emankcin: yes
[20:27] <extinct_potato> emankcin, yes.
[20:27] <emankcin> Is it.. better now?
[20:27] <transhuman> this became apparent on the upgrade to the latest Ubuntu
[20:29] <subsume> hello there. do you think its possible to use tensorflow and a GPU on windows using some ubuntu from usb?
[20:29] <subsume> well forget i said windows
[20:29] <subsume> its a windows box
[20:30] <bekks> subsume: So please rephrase :)
[20:30] <subsume> heh
[20:30] <subsume> hello there. do you think its possible to use a usb version of ubuntu (or whichever) with GPU support?
[20:30] <bekks> Sure, why wouldnt it be possible?
[20:30] <emankcin> subsume, I'm not sure what you mean
[20:31] <emankcin> subsume, Your choice of boot device shouldn't have any bearing on GPU support
[20:31] <k1l_> subsume: do you have a specific issue?
[20:31] <subsume> no specific issue so far just looking for a starting point.
[20:32] <emankcin> subsume, A USB boot is a great way to start
[20:32] <emankcin> better than running liveCDs. Oh the boot times
[20:32] <subsume> no specific issue so far just looking for a starting point./
[20:32] <subsume> err
[20:32] <subsume> do you have any idea how big in general a USB stick I might need?
[20:32] <subsume> is there a flavor that's made with that in mind i could start with and modify across restarts?
[20:33] <emankcin> subsume, I'm not sure for ubuntu-desktop. I assume something large enough to contain the image
[20:33] <k1l_> subsume: it should work with regular gpus. that is why we are a bit confused about that question
[20:33] <k1l_> subsume: use 2gb pendrives at least
[20:33] <emankcin> subsume, You should be safe with a 4 or 8gb drive. They're dirt cheap anyway
[20:33] <subsume> righton
[20:34] <subsume> when i make changes i guess it all saves, last time i did this stuff it was a liveCD
[20:34] <emankcin> I'll check how big the ubuntu image is
[20:34] <alkisg> subsume: you'll want to install ubuntu to the usb stick, not just use a live usb
[20:35] <rattking> now I thought you needed the proprietary to work with the GPU?
[20:35] <alkisg> Try to get a fast one, maybe 8 gb to be able to also include whatever software stacks you'll need
[20:36] <emankcin> subsume, the ubuntu image is 1.4gb, so 2gb should work. The website states 25GB for an installed version though, so keep that in mind. If you wish to install to and run from a usb drive, you can get a 32gb drive. May want to use ext2 for that.
[20:36] <subsume> i have an 8gb
[20:36] <subsume> i think it will fit, although i do have to build tensorflow and other python libs on it
[20:37] <subsume> what image should i look for?
[20:37] <subsume> i definitely need GPU support
[20:37] <subsume> either out of the box or installable
[20:37] <emankcin> the standard ubuntu desktop image which is compatible with your architecture
[20:37] <emankcin> most likely amd64
[20:38] <subsume> the standard is only 2gb huh, that's cool
[20:39] <alkisg> subsume: 2 gb is the compressed image; when you install it it needs more space
[20:39] <alkisg> 8 gb should be enough
[20:39] <subsume> oh, yeah its recommending 25...
[20:39] <subsume> is there some other flavor i could look at that's made for this?
[20:39] <subsume> it would be nice to just use what i've got
[20:39] <alkisg> Yup, install it there
[20:39] <subsume> but its only 8gb
[20:40] <alkisg> The installation will take 4 to 5 gb
[20:40] <alkisg> Add < 1 GB swap, you still have some left for your software
[20:41] <subsume> i guess that's probably fine
[20:41] <subsume> so if i burn this from my macbook to my usb, does the installation start when i plug it into windows?
[20:42] <subsume> (plug it into my current windows box, i meant)
[20:42] <emankcin> subsume, I believe there are lighter versions. I'm not sure if Xubuntu or Lubuntu still exist, but those might fit the bill. You can also try something lighter in general. Install base Debian with a small DE, for example
[20:42] <subsume> i'll try this out i think i only need 400MB of application code
[20:42] <alkisg> You need to boot from an ubuntu live medium and then install to usb
[20:43] <alkisg> If you create a live usb stick, you can't use it to install to usb as well
[20:43] <subsume> oh darn, that's what i need
[20:43] <subsume> i could maybe boot from one usb and install to another?
[20:43] <emankcin> subsume, yep
[20:44] <emankcin> or boot from a dvd if you still have one of those (mine are collecting dust)
[20:49] <cool_> Hy ! I have Xubuntu installed, I want to duall boot with win10. I have 2 partiion ,  1 : system , 2 : logic,  I want to creat another 3rd with GPARTED for win10  and don't kill the GRUB . Someone can help me ?
[20:50] <bekks> cool_: where is grub installed?
[20:51] <cool_> Her is my gparted screen :
[20:52] <cool_> bekks I don't know  my gparted : http://hpics.li/d703aae
[20:53] <alkisg> cool_: windows will kill your grub, and you'll need to reinstall it after you install windows. It would be easier if you installed windows first, ubuntu later.
[20:53] <alkisg> resize sda1 to create an empty space right after it
[20:53] <alkisg> format it as ntfs so that windows will get installed there
[20:54] <cool_> alkisg tha'ts what I was trying to do , but I could ot format the disk system only delet it, and I was wondering if it's the same "delet" or " format" a disk for my case when I just have xubuntu Installed
[20:54] <cool_> not*
[20:54] <alkisg> cool_: to resize the disk, you need to boot from a live cd or usb
[20:54] <alkisg> Not while the disk is in used, booted
[20:54] <alkisg> *in use
[20:55] <cool_> alkisg how ? with gparted on Ubuntu live usb ?
[20:56] <alkisg> cool_: yes
[20:57] <Queenslayer> Hi guys
[20:57] <Queenslayer> Is it wrong for me to ask how to change Ubuntu desktop to Mint?
[20:58] <OerHeks> Queenslayer, yes, we don't support that.
[20:58] <Queenslayer> K, cheers
[20:58] <k1l_> Queenslayer: we cant support that, obviously.
[20:58] <OerHeks> reinstall i guess, ask in the mint channel?
[20:59] <Queenslayer> OerHeks, nah, happy with Ubuntu
[20:59] <Queenslayer> Just need a change
[21:00] <Queenslayer> I thought Cinnamon has a good look to it.  I might try some other xfce
[21:00] <Queenslayer> Lubuntu perhaps
[21:00] <alkisg> Queenslayer: you can just install the cinnamon desktop, no need to reinstall with mint...
[21:01] <Queenslayer> alkisg, that's what I was wanting to know
[21:01] <Queenslayer> But they say it's not allowed, so fair dos
[21:01] <k1l_> yep. ubuntu ships cinnamon, mate, xfce, lxde, kde, unity,.......
[21:02] <k1l_> Queenslayer: cinnamon is desktop enviroment. not a mint exclusive
[21:02] <alkisg> Queenslayer: mint is not a desktop environment, it's a distro, while cinnamon is a desktop environment, you confused people with the way you asked the question...
[21:03] <Queenslayer> Oh, apologies
[21:03] <Queenslayer> That
[21:03] <Queenslayer> That is what I meant to say
[21:03] <k1l_> !info cinnamon-desktop-environment
[21:10] <cool_> alksing I have to use free space following ?
[21:10] <cool_> on gparted
[21:11] <alkisg> cool_: yes it's better to put free space following, some times gparted chokes when resizing the start of an ext* partition
[21:13] -Djm4xx:#ubuntu- #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE! #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE! #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE!  #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE! #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE!  #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE! #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE!  #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE! #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE! #WRONGPLANET IS THE #1 CHANNEL ON FREENODE!
[21:15] <Queenslayer> thanks killtheliterate
[21:18] <emankcin> Queenslayer, You can certainly try an install of Mint, if you like. I quite like it.
[21:18] <Queenslayer> I like it too
[21:19] <Queenslayer> But I've got Ubuntu working well on older hardware and want to try out the Cinnamon desktop
[21:19] <emankcin> Queenslayer, I basically switched over to Debian/Mint when Unity became default.
[21:19] <Queenslayer> I've got it downloading as I type
[21:19] <OerHeks> one cannot use mint professionally, and mint is offtopic here
[21:19] <Queenslayer> Yeah, Unity is a let down compared with distros like Mint
[21:20] <Queenslayer> Yeah it's strictly desktop is Mint
[21:20] <k1l_> Queenslayer: emankcin ok, enough mint advertising now.
[21:20] <emankcin> Queenslayer, That'll be a good way to try out the interface. I have a feeling cinnamon isn't the smallest package to download.
[21:21] <Queenslayer> emankcin, I already have it, but as k1l_ said....
[21:21] <Queenslayer> Thanks k1l_
[21:22] <Queenslayer> k1l_, I've installed it from synaptic but how to activate it?
[21:22] <k1l_> Queenslayer: logout. then choose on the login screen
[21:23] <Queenslayer> k1l_, star man!
[21:23] <emankcin> Seems odd to me that a community founded on freedom of choice would be so restrictive on discussion of different options. After all, Mint is based on Ubuntu and contributes accordingly to its popularity as an OS
[21:23] <k1l_> emankcin: unity is the standard desktop on the ubuntu iso. the repos do have a lot of other desktops and even install isos with different desktops on it.
[21:23] <emankcin> I mentioned Debian, as well, but was not reprimanded for it.
[21:24] <tgm4883> emankcin: this is the ubuntu support channel and thus is restricted to ubuntu support. There is a #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[21:24] <k1l_> !mint > emankcin
[21:24] <OerHeks> emankcin, time to join #ubuntu-offtopic but i think you won't get much responce there about mint :-D
[21:26] <emankcin> OerHeks, I have no doubt about that after seeing these responses.
[21:26] <OerHeks> elky, dax ...
[21:27] <OerHeks> wb elky dax
[21:40] <jordan36262> hi guys i need help with gedit
[21:40] <jordan36262> im trying to change the color of the blinking coursor
[21:40] <jordan36262> is that possible?
[21:41] <jordan36262> (i have a black theme and i cant see it thats why i wanna change it from black to white
[21:41] <jordan36262> )
[21:45] <Queenslayer> Thanks k1l_
[22:10] <subsume> while i am setting up dual boot, is there a way to complete turn off the boot loader?
[22:10] <subsume> i want to boot into ubuntu manually only, i never want to be prompted
[22:10] <GnomeKris> So I read somewhere that people upgrading to 16.04.1 from 14.04.4 are having an issue where the pc wont boot after the upgrade...What kind of merit does this rumor hold?
[22:11] <GnomeKris> I'd provide a link, but I was on my phone on reddit the other day, and can't find the post now.
[22:11] <subsume> i have never "dist upgraded" in my life because what you describe is completely unavoidable in some cases
[22:11] <subsume> i can't even imagine how you could dist upgrade without some risk to that always happening
[22:11] <OerHeks> !ltsupgrade
[22:12] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, wait for the fixes to be tested
[22:12] <Bashing-om> !grub | subsume Sure, doable:
[22:12] <subsume> Bashing-om: i have windows installed already and am looking to put ubuntu alongside. i was hoping to just not use grub at all and leave the windows boot loader in place
[22:12] <GnomeKris> So my best bet if I don't want to wait for fixes would be to backup my files, and do a clean wipe install?
[22:12] <GnomeKris> OerHeks ^^
[22:13] <OerHeks> GnomeKris, yes, fresh install works fine, i did.
[22:13] <GnomeKris> That's what I'll do then. I was planning on moving my /home to a secondary drive anyway. This'll give me the chance to do that.
[22:13] <Bashing-om> subsume: Well .. while Ubuntu will load Windows .. Windows will not load ubuntu . Separate hard drives ?
[22:14] <subsume> Bashing-om: i created a 25GB partition on a secondary HD. /dev/sda/ is it but it also shows /dev/sda1 as the windows boot loader
[22:15] <subsume> i was thinking i could just put the boot loader not on /dev/sda but on /dev/sda5 where this 25GB partition lives
[22:18] <subsume> my hope is that basically grub just won't come into play in a "default" boot
[22:20] <Bashing-om> subsume: Not the way a bootloader generally works . The firmware perfers to hand off to the boot code to a particular address .//olet's look now at what is .. pastebin
[22:21] <Bashing-om>  sudo parted-l ' .
[22:22] <subsume> i guess i was looking at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/561254/install-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts-without-losing-windows-7-bootloader
[22:23] <Bashing-om> subsume: :ook
[22:23] <subsume> basically i just want a less disruptive method to install
[22:23] <Bashing-om> subsume: Look'n at the link .
[22:24] <subsume> i was thinking if i just installed grub on the same partition that might suffice
[22:25] <subsume> since it has a bootloader it just has to be selected later
[22:26] <subsume> maybe i could install the ubuntu ISO to this partition instead, and then boot from that partition, and install instead to the USB (rather than putting the ISO on a USB and then trying to install to a drive)
[22:27] <subsume> i don't really get why i need a boot loader at all, given that i can boot from the USB just fine without one
[22:27] <subsume> it always struck me as somewhat invasive in dual-boot setups
[22:28] <Bashing-om> subsume: Not the best solution: sharing /boot is more complex and generally not a good idea, especially as Ubuntu defaults to using no separate boot partition. A separate /boot is something of an anachronism, dating back to limited PC BIOSes that could only handle small disks, so the boot files had to be at the start of the disk.
[22:29] <subsume> maybe this is still up to date https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2176132
[22:30] <Bashing-om> subsume: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader :- great explanation of what the bootloader does .
[22:30] <blutzman> nice
[22:30] <blutzman> welcome
[22:31] <sabrina_> hola...
[22:31] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | subsume
[22:32] <subsume> yeah i can't find a dual boot instruction that doesn't involve replacing the windows boot loader
[22:33] <xangua> Yeah, windows bootloader can only boot windows
[22:33] <Bashing-om> subsume: If this is a UEFI system .. then the Windows' boot code is not touched when Ubuntu's code is added to the list ..
[22:34] <OerHeks> i hope it is not wubi ...
[22:34] <subsume> Bashing-om: it is
[22:34] <subsume> at least i suspect it is
[22:34] <Bashing-om> !uefi
[22:35] <subsume> when i hit F11 on startup the default seems to be UEFI: Built-in EFI Shell
[22:37] <Bashing-om> subsume: Then yes looks UEFI .. and installed properly the ubuntu bootcode is added to the /boot directory .
[22:38] <Bashing-om> subsume: EriC^^ here is our guru of dualbooting windows UEFI .
[22:38] <subsume> well i got a prompt about that while installing
[22:38] <subsume> and it wasn't a very comforting prompt
[22:39] <subsume> "machines firmware started UEFI but looks like there may be an existing operating system installed using BIOS compatibility mode, it might be difficult to reboot into BIOS mode systems later"
[22:39] <subsume> maybe that system is some kind of windows recovery disk
[22:40] <Bashing-om> subsume: I am no longer Windows literate, and I have yet to boot a UEFI system .. so I am about as much in the dark as you . Let's see if EriC^^ is available .
[22:40] <subsume> ah okay i wonder if he's around
[22:40] <subsume> thx
[22:42] <Bashing-om> subsume: pinged EriC^^ see if he is around . :)
[22:42] <subsume> okay cool, thanks
[22:43] <Skrewtape> Hey folks, I'm having some trouble with my ubuntu server locking up, I hope somebody here can give me some pointers as to what might be the problem
[22:43] <subsume> out of ram?
[22:43] <solarbird> Hi! Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome 3 here.  Can I disable these safely, and how?
[22:43] <Skrewtape> Whenever I do a large amount of disk writes, eventually the system locks up.   It looks like the ext4 module in the kernel is crashing, which prevents anything that needs to do any disk access from running
[22:43] <subsume> solarbird: its a dedicated task machine but what did you install, the desktop version?
[22:44] <Skrewtape> The only recovery I can do is to hard power cycle the machine
[22:44] <Skrewtape> This is 16.04
[22:44] <subsume> Skrewtape: do you have some kind of log output
[22:44] <Skrewtape> The syslog output looks like this
[22:44] <Skrewtape> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21068445/
[22:44] <solarbird> subsume: the 'dedicated task' is 'my digital audio workstation.' so i actually do need a desktop.
[22:44] <solarbird> subsume: but i have other machines entirely for things like office tasks. and i need as little running as I can, at all times.
[22:45] <subsume> i guess when i think of dedicated task machine i think of like, a web worker or a celery node
[22:45] <Bashing-om> !info evolution-calendar-factory
[22:45] <Skrewtape> Looks like ext4 is dying when it goes to write in-memory cache to disk, but I'm pretty out of my depth at this point
[22:46] <toxik> long live ZFS
[22:46] <solarbird> Skrewtape: things like "dying when going to write cache to disk" smells like "impending disk failure" to me
[22:46] <dax> ^
[22:46] <Skrewtape> It can write many gigs of data to the disk before things go wrong, and reads never fail
[22:46] <solarbird> ubottu: fair enough, but it is nonetheless running.
[22:47] <Skrewtape> Also I see the same behavior on two different drives
[22:47] <subsume> solarbird: that's not a human
[22:47] <solarbird> oh sorry HI BOT ^_^
[22:48] <solarbird> skrewtape: fffft. foo. (i was going to suggest something about checking drive temperatuers with smartctl but if it's two drives, that just got a _lot_ less likely)
[22:48] <Skrewtape> Yeah, hardware failure was my first thought too
[22:51] <Bashing-om> solarbird: Near as I can tell those are 3rd party apps ..so yeah .. one should be able to remove them without affecting the operating system . How to remove depends on how they were installed .
[22:52] <DoYouKnow> Hi, I clicked install 3rd party software in setup, but I've been waiting for some time with the spinning mouse cursor
[22:53] <DoYouKnow> what should I do? I'm worried that if I don't, I won't be able to boot into ubuntu with my wifi hardware
[22:53] <solarbird> Bashing-om: gnome3 tries to uninstall itself if I try to remove evolution-data-server and I kind of need it :/
[22:53] <solarbird> (Well, apt tries to remove gnome XD )
[22:53] <solarbird> (I tell it no)
[22:54] <toxik> You shouldn't need 3rd party software for WiFi
[22:54] <solarbird> I found some commentary online saying 'just remove the executable flag' and yeah I can do that but I was hoping there was a less blunt-force solution
[22:56] <solarbird> (and if I try to remove things like just the library package, the change set is HILARIOUS and it's triggering things FAR FAR FAR up the tree
[22:57] <Bashing-om> solarbird: Yeah .. looks deep ' apt-cache rdepends evolution-data-server ' . How does evolution-calendar-factory and addressbook-factory play into this ?
[22:58] <skinux> Is Ubuntu very friendly to those that do heavy customizations of Window Manager, Desktop Environment, that sort of thing?
[22:58] <Bashing-om> skinux: I find xfce much more customizable .
[22:59] <rdh> skinux, just as friendly as others.
[22:59] <solarbird> bashing-om: well, evolution-calendar-factory and evolution-addressbook-factory are part of that package afaict
[23:00] <solarbird> bashing-om: gnome3 seems to depend upon evolution-data-server for something other than the evolution organiser but idk what.
[23:01] <Skrewtape> Looks like I got some bad RAM
[23:01] <Bashing-om> solarbird: I do not know, as I can not find it " apt-cache search evolution-addressbook-factory " >> null return .
[23:01] <Skrewtape> It occurred to me to run memtest and it's red all over the place
[23:02] <solarbird> bashing-om: it's not a package, it's a tool included in a package, it lives in /usr/lib/evolution
[23:02] <solarbird> (once installed)
[23:02] <solarbird> skrewtape: o that's bad
[23:02] <smpl27> dicks out for harambe
[23:03] <Bashing-om> solarbird: Obviosly out of my depth .. I step aside for others to step in here .
[23:05] <jonfen> i am trying to setup 2 monitors and a laptop screen in LXDE using arandr, and then tried using the xrandr command, but it isn't working.  specifically i have a 1200 wide monitor next to a 1280 wide laptop, and another 1200 wide monitor.  xrandr throws an error when i try to set the pos of the last monitor to x=3200
[23:05] <Miharu> hi
[23:05] <Miharu> so,I want to install ubuntu, but I have some complications?
[23:06] <toxik> Miharu: What's up? We're here to help!
[23:06] <Miharu> following the tecmint.com to dual boot ubuntu and win10,
[23:07] <jaker1> is there a way I could prevent users/certain processes from being able to pull detailed hardware info like HD/mobo serial numbers & bios version etc? (Or have dummy info returned)
[23:07] <Miharu> I've made disk management create an unallocated drive.
[23:07] <Miharu> now I'm installing ubuntu, at the third steps.
[23:07] <Miharu> third step, I mean
[23:08] <Miharu> I checked Download updates, install third party software, and turn off secure boot
[23:08] <jonfen> Miharu: what is the issue?
[23:08] <Miharu> then I clicked 'continue' button
[23:09] <Miharu> unmount partitions that are in use?
[23:09] <Miharu> that is what I'm afraid here.
[23:10] <jonfen> Miharu: do you have anything that isn't backed up on the Windows 10 install?
[23:10] <jonfen> or is it fresh?
[23:11] <Miharu> Yes. Some of them is unable to be backed up.
[23:11] <Miharu> 99.7 or so percent is backed up, anyway.
[23:11] <solarbird> hmmmm okay setting the files to not-executable was Not A Good Solution, _but_ it did give me a service name!
[23:11] <solarbird> sudo service org.gnome.Shell.CalendarServer stop
[23:12] <jonfen> well, i would try to backup the .3, that way you aren't worried
[23:12] <solarbird> so. what's a good way to make a service stop automatically at login?
[23:12] <Miharu> other than copy it manually?
[23:14] <solarbird> Miharu: do you have a spare drive? you could image the current disc completely with dd (off a live boot DVD) and have a perfect image as a worst-case backup
[23:15] <jonfen> Miharu: I just did a fresh windows 10 install, but left 100 GB or so when I created the drives (but didn't format) in the windows setup, then i installed ubuntu, and it was clear which partition i wanted to use.  the last step was screwing with the bios to boot to the ubuntu partition first (which let me select the windows boot option as well)
[23:15] <jonfen> Miharu: but you shouldn't be partitioning / formatting drives if you are worried you might lose something you don't have backed up.
[23:15] <Miharu> Unfeasible as of right now? the last backup to my external HD had left me around 300GB space
[23:16] <OerHeks> systemctl disable name.service  (for systemD)
[23:16] <OerHeks> solarbird, ^^
[23:16] <jonfen> 300GB is dirt cheap on cloud storage options.
[23:16] <Miharu> so... the installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions: /dev/sda
[23:16] <solarbird> OerHeks: Oh! That's persistent across restarts? Thanks!
[23:17] <Miharu> Jonfen: I'm not exactly have data plan for that?
[23:17] <OerHeks> to enable again > systemctl enable name.service
[23:17] <Miharu> I don't exactly have, I mean
[23:18] <jonfen> Miharu: when you created unpartitioned space, did you repartition the windows drive?
[23:18] <Miharu> exact steps like http://www.tecmint.com/install-ubuntu-16-04-alongside-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/
[23:19] <Sebastie1> finally running ubuntu again :D
[23:19] <Miharu> if you mean by repartition is shrinking the windows 10 partition, then yes.
[23:20] <solarbird> OerHeks: hrm, seems to be a service started by gnome, systemctl doesn't know about it
[23:31] <Miharu> so... failed to unmount partitions
[23:32] <Miharu> The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points could not be unmounted:  /media/ubuntu/New\ VolumeVolume  Please close any applications using these mount points.  Would you like the installer to try to unmount these partitions again?
[23:33] <Miharu> I cannot either press 'Go Back', 'Continue', or 'X'
[23:33] <Miharu> any help?
[23:35] <leagris> Sting, ?
[23:35] <leagris> Why are you DCC to me?
[23:36] <solarbird> Miharu: hm
[23:36] <TheNH813> Is there a specific place to ask for help getting a game running?
[23:37] <solarbird> Miharu: did you try to install from a downloaded installer that you put on the drive itself?
[23:37] <bazhang> TheNH813, native steam or wine
[23:37] <OerHeks> Thedepends, what game, for wine?
[23:37] <TheNH813> Native Java
[23:37] <TheNH813> No steam of Wine
[23:37] <TheNH813> *or
[23:38] <TheNH813> Playing Runescape.
[23:38] <Miharu> Solarbird: huh? I make bootable disk on my Flash drive?
[23:38] <bazhang> whats the game TheNH813
[23:38] <TheNH813> Runescape.
[23:38] <TheNH813> It crashes like every few minutes. Can't even get it to load with Oracle Java. Openjdk7 seems to work.
[23:38] <Miharu> then I just boot into that flash drive
[23:38] <bazhang> TheNH813, how did you get that running on linux
[23:38] <TheNH813> Runescape Linux laucnher
[23:39] <TheNH813> For Linux and other UNIX systems.
[23:39] <TheNH813> I'l see if I cna grab soem debug messages.
[23:40] <OerHeks> TheNH813, how did you install it?
[23:40] <TheNH813> Downloaded the perl script.
[23:40] <TheNH813> In a archive from github
[23:41] <solarbird> Miharu: okay good
[23:41] <OerHeks> TheNH813, 32 bit?
[23:41] <Miharu> then?
[23:42] <OerHeks> their site gives a 64 bit client https://www.runescape.com/download?client=notinstalled
[23:42] <TheNH813> That client only works on 14.04
[23:42] <solarbird> Miharu: I don't know, i ran into something like this with 16.04 too and swore a lot and ended up doing a clean install
[23:42] <TheNH813> You have to use the community supported UNIX client for all other configurations
[23:42] <Miharu> the installer is unresponsive, so do I force close it?
[23:42] <TheNH813> I'm on 64 bit
[23:42] <solarbird> Miharu: that is like the worst answer and i am sorry but yes i think you have to
[23:42] <solarbird> Miharu: that's what i had to do :(
[23:43] <Miharu> how do I do it here?
[23:43] <TheNH813> http://pastebin.com/rmghgj0r
[23:43] <solarbird> Miharu: i had to reboot my machine it was terrible
[23:43] <OerHeks> TheNH813, if you replace trusty with xenial, it does not work??
[23:43] <OerHeks> else a well known runescape client ppa is https://launchpad.net/~hikariknight/+archive/ubuntu/unix-runescape-client
[23:43] <TheNH813> Does nto work. No package indexes forund.
[23:44] <TheNH813> Will try that
[23:44] <TheNH813> Also tried the Win client in WINE, but that's even worse.
[23:44] <OerHeks> with openJDK or the oracle binairy blob?
[23:44] <TheNH813> OpenJDK works, oracle's java dosen't wven load
[23:44] <TheNH813> The opposite of usual. :P
[23:45] <OerHeks> well, the ppa gives a recent update 2016-7-8
[23:45] <TheNH813> I'l give the PPA a try
[23:46] <ctesiphon> sorry to interrupt: if I'm trying to benchmark a ton of different data structures, all of which have a method called `lookup`, do I really need to paste, for example, Data.Map.Lazy.lookup, Data.Map.Strict.lookup, etc every single time, or is there a way to avoid this? (I'm using the criterion package)
[23:47] <TheNH813> HEY! The PPA pulled in some PERL modules manually running the script likely missed.
[23:47] <TheNH813> Maybe that's my problem
[23:47] <OerHeks> :-)
[23:49] <TheNH813> Well, it hasn't crashed yet.
[23:50] <TheNH813> Yeah I think it's fixed. :D
[23:54] <haunyed> za up
[23:59] <toxik> You know, I'm absolutely in love with snaps.
[23:59] <Kyoku> will ubuntu support my new pc config http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/21076711/ ?


[00:02] <bdmurray> guiverc: really? it was talked about. I'll look into it on Monday.
[00:04] <guiverc> thanks bdmurray :)
[11:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-bioc-gsva [ppc64el] (impish-proposed/universe) [1.38.2+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-bioc-gsva [s390x] (impish-proposed/universe) [1.38.2+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-bioc-gsva [amd64] (impish-proposed/universe) [1.38.2+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-bioc-gsva [arm64] (impish-proposed/universe) [1.38.2+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-bioc-gsva [armhf] (impish-proposed/universe) [1.38.2+ds-2] (no packageset)
[11:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-bioc-gsva [riscv64] (impish-proposed/universe) [1.38.2+ds-2] (no packageset)
[12:36] <ddstreet> guiverc it was already announced: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-March/000266.html
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-bioc-gsva [amd64] (impish-proposed) [1.38.2+ds-2]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-bioc-gsva [armhf] (impish-proposed) [1.38.2+ds-2]
[12:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-bioc-gsva [riscv64] (impish-proposed) [1.38.2+ds-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-bioc-gsva [arm64] (impish-proposed) [1.38.2+ds-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-bioc-gsva [s390x] (impish-proposed) [1.38.2+ds-2]
[12:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-bioc-gsva [ppc64el] (impish-proposed) [1.38.2+ds-2]
[13:33]  * enyc meows
[14:42] <hallyn> was looking at the oldest in focal unapproved queue, youtube-dl - it builds and installs fine, but depends on debhelper-compat 13, focal is on 12, what's the usual way to handle that?
[14:42] <hallyn> i saw another pkg where they just lowered the dependency on the bakcport...
[14:48] <rbasak> For -updates, I think it's a case of adjusting the packaging to use the version of the debhelper available
[14:48] <rbasak> Newer debhelper goes into -backports sometimes, but I don't recall this ever having been done in -updates
[15:21] <hallyn> it's actually targeted for backports
[15:22] <hallyn> anyway it's been there 11 months so is out of date with what's in newer releases again anyway,
[15:22] <hallyn> tmepted to reject and ask them to re-do with newest, but that seems rude
[17:03] <rbasak> Ah I didn't realise you were reviewing backports. I didn't think you were in the backporters team though? How does that work?
[17:05] <rbasak> Because availability of backports reviews has been an issue for the past few years.
[18:07] <hallyn> rbasak: lol, i'm not.  i'm just looking through the queue
[18:07] <hallyn> in part to narrow it down so that my 'lxc' unapproved one can get looked at :)
[18:08] <hallyn> honestly i don't know waht teams there are at this point.  there's a separate backport team?
[18:37] <rbasak> hallyn: there is but it's basically inactive. I think you'd struggle to find any backporters team member who has actually reviewed something for backports recently.
[19:36] <guiverc> ddstreet, that was a warning (and mirrrored to fridge); convention is the follow that up on event with the actual annoucement (expected last saturday my local time, or late friday 30 for most)
[19:58] <stgraber> looks like grub in xenial is rather broken
[19:58] <stgraber>  grub-efi-amd64-signed : Depends: grub2-common (>= 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.31) but 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.29 is to be installed
[19:58] <stgraber> been breaking all Xenial MAAS deploys and also breaking xenial image builds
[19:58] <stgraber> looking like a partial SRU or a partial SRU revert happened
[20:11] <juliank> stgraber: confirmed, src:grub2 was not released, but src:grub2-signed needs the new -common
[20:12] <juliank> stgraber: we really ought to have tooling to prevent stuff like this - or releasing packages that have a block-<release>-proposed (or whatever it was) tag
[20:13] <juliank> In an optimal world, releasing an SRU would be giving britney a unblock hint, and then have britney do the copy/move, such that it can still do its checks
[20:14] <juliank> xnox, vorlon ^ grub2 in xenial is broken atm, src:grub2-signed was released, but src:grub2 not, but former depends on latter :/
[20:16] <juliank> In other news, we're now down to ~5K tests on arm64 impish, from 8k
[20:17] <juliank> So, not sure if queue will be empty on monday
[20:21] <stgraber> just looked at the grub2 SRU and though it's past the waiting period, the fixes haven't been confirmed on it, otherwise I could have done a quick sru-release to fix things. If we can have someone quickly confirm the grub build as good to go, I can release it. Otherwise we'd need to revert the grub2-signed back to the previous build, but that tends to get quite messy...
[20:31] <juliank> stgraber: the grub2 update .31 regressed the autopkgtest infra, and was validated, so does not need revalidation for 1915536 really; just for 1926748
[20:35] <juliank> stgraber: I don't remember how I reproduced other issue :/
[20:44] <juliank> stgraber: Verifying now. I've rerun the top of https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/update-notifier/xenial/arm64, once it passes upgrading grub2 at the start we should be good :D
[20:47] <juliank> stgraber: verified
[21:58] <stgraber> juliank: done
[23:05] <guiverc> thanks juliank   (grub+shim on arm64 likely still cause)
[23:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: jcabi-aspects [amd64] (impish-proposed/none) [0.22.6-1] (no packageset)
[23:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted jcabi-aspects [amd64] (impish-proposed) [0.22.6-1]


[13:10] <captainlinux> Guys I have somehow registered myself with gmail and googlemail twice. oô Is it possible to somehow remove one account?
[13:10] <czajkowski> yes you can merge the accounts
[13:10] <captainlinux> It's the same email, the same name but different launchpad Id. oô
[13:10] <czajkowski> if you log in and have access you can actually do this yourself
[13:11] <czajkowski> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/193
[13:13] <captainlinux> Thanks. But will I be able to use the name of the merged account in the one I chose to keep?
[13:14] <captainlinux> I mean the ID.
[13:14] <captainlinux> For example I keep XYZ and merge captainlinux into it will I be able to rename XYZ into captainlinux afterwards?
[13:14] <czajkowski> yes
[13:15] <captainlinux> Okay, that's great, thanks!
[13:24] <dobey> why not just merge the other way and avoid the extra step?
[13:24] <dobey> meh
[15:40] <glennpratt> how do I make a personal branch of a package repo, ie lp:ubuntu/oneiric/libapache2-mod-xsendfile
[15:40] <glennpratt> only thing I can mange to push it to is +junk
[15:40] <glennpratt> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/libapache2-mod-xsendfile
[15:50] <glennpratt> ahh, I got it, I have to make a named branch... lp:~glennpratt/ubuntu/precise/libapache2-mod-xsendfile/1.0b1
[15:51] <Saviq> hey all, I have a weird issue with raring builds in a PPA: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/134174505/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.indicators-client_0.27~raring5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[15:51] <Saviq> which means the python call from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/indicators-client/trunk/view/head:/tests/CMakeLists.txt#L3 returns an empty string
[17:18] <glennpratt> :( 503 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~acquia/ubuntu/precise/libapache2-mod-xsendfile/1.0b1/files
[17:36] <dobey> glennpratt: works fine here
[17:37] <glennpratt> dobey: thanks, it came back here as well
[23:38] <wgrant> Saviq: Have you tried grabbing the production build chroot and using that to reproduce it locally?


[19:06] <ivan8> hey all!
[19:08] <ivan8> xfce - the best desktop env. for Linux, I've tried about 15 maybe others different.
[19:09] <ivan8> just remembered, I have some problems with thunar &  ntfs and usb drives... so Thunar should be improved
[22:41] <chad> hello
[22:41] <gnrp> hi chad