[06:21] <high-freq> not too sure on rolling back
[06:22] <rambo3> high-freq: i would search ubuntu forums for answer
[06:22] <high-freq> rambo3: k
[06:22] <rambo3> tonygeorge:  roll back is just copy old xorg.conf as new
[06:23] <Calgar> hi, im new to linux (only just installed this hour) my package manager isnt working (saying it cant connect to server) is the server down, or am i doing somthing wrong?
[06:23] <tonygeorge> rambo3, but i didn't take a back up copy of it before running the update.
[06:24] <CuriousCat> would anyone know what in ubuntu i could use to lower the CPU speed?
[06:24] <dura> cpufreq
[06:24] <dura> CuriousCat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MataroSessionsWorkshops/CPUFreqModuleLoading?highlight=%28cpufreq%29
[06:27] <beruic> I have just formatted an etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gig used space when the damn thing is empty?
[06:27] <CuriousCat> dura, ah! thank you. :)
[06:27] <pall2>  Hi There,
[06:27] <pall2> How can I interact with the system when starting - i.e. choose which
[06:27] <pall2> init.dscript to start or not.
[06:27] <pall2> I put my own script into rc2.d, the system halts at my script when starting.
[06:27] <pall2> I cannot login =(
[06:27] <pall2> I also post my script below: ( it works before I put it into rc2.d)
[06:27] <pall2> > /etc/rs2.d/S99myownscript
[06:27] <pall2> #!/bin/sh
[06:27] <pall2> SCRIPT=/myownscript
[06:27] <pall2> [ -f $SCRIPT ]  && python $SCRIPT
[06:27] <pall2> > the python SCRIPT
[06:27] <pall2> #!/bin/env python
[06:27] <pall2> import os
[06:27] <beruic> NOT SO MANY LINES!!!
[06:27] <pall2> a = os.popen('iwlist ath0 scan').readlines()
[06:27] <dura> CuriousCat, yw
[06:27] <pall2> ...
[06:27] <pall2> ...
[06:27] <pall2> END
[06:27] <pall2> The error message is 'ath0 doesnt not support scan, network is down' =(
[06:27] <chamo> hello
[06:27] <dura> pall2, use pastebin ffs
[06:28] <pall2> dura: what's that
[06:28] <Hexaflouride> ...
[06:28] <dura> pall2, It's a site where you can post stuff
[06:28] <pall2>  How can I interact with the system when starting - i.e. choose which
[06:28] <pall2> init.dscript to start or not.
[06:28] <pall2> I put my own script into rc2.d, the system halts at my script when starting.
[06:28] <pall2> I cannot login =(
[06:28] <CuriousCat> !paste
[06:28] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[06:28] <dura> So remove the script
[06:28] <dura> boot into the system and fix it
[06:28] <pall2> i'm askin questions
[06:28] <pall2> i cannot boot into the system
[06:29] <komputer> hej
[06:29] <beruic> hej hej
[06:29] <dura> Boot a livecd and edit it
[06:29] <high-freq> listen up .....use that pastebin if your gonna paste more than 3 lines
[06:29] <komputer> co to jest??
[06:29] <high-freq> simple as that
[06:29] <rambo3> tonygeorge: ues whenever there is change of xorg buy ubuntu it makes a copy of config
[06:29] <beruic> I have just formatted an etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gig used space when the damn thing is empty?
[06:30] <dman_> im stuck with a (probably silly) mount question. i cant seem to be able to create any directories in a root mounted drive
[06:30] <dura> What kind of drive is it?
[06:30] <dura> Is it mounted read only?
[06:30] <tonygeorge> rambo3: i see. thank you very much. Hope this will work. :-)
[06:30] <beruic> dman_: Are you logged in as root?
[06:30] <high-freq> dman_: not even  sudo mkdir name_of_dir
[06:31] <rambo3> just list in /etc/X11/ and i think it makes a date time stampe on backup configs
[06:31] <pall2> In Madriva, you can press 'I' to interact with system when starting, choose yes|no for each init.d
[06:31] <Calgar> hi, im new to linux, when i start the package manager, i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13915 how do i fix it please?
[06:31] <pall2> i wonder whether i can do the same thing in Ubuntu
[06:32] <dura> Calgar, That means that the repository doesn't have what apt is looking for.
[06:32] <dman_> beruic, only as root can i write files on the mount
[06:32] <dura> Change to different repositories
[06:32] <BockBilbo> epas
[06:32] <BockBilbo> hey
[06:32] <Calgar> dura: how do i do that?
[06:33] <dura> Calgar, edit /etc/apt/sources/list
[06:33] <dman_> i want to write the files as a normal user high-freq,beruic
[06:33] <rambo3> !tell Calgar about repos
[06:33] <beruic> Calgar: Try hitting in some /'s instead of whitespecas after the domain name...
[06:33] <Calgar> dura: O_O
[06:33] <high-freq> dman_: ya create the dir with sudo...then chmod it or chown it
[06:33] <beruic> dman_: Log in as root and change the permissions
[06:33] <rambo3> !tell Calgar about easysource
[06:34] <siccness> high-freq: what would you say is more secure, chmod or chown? or no diff?
[06:34] <Calgar> i clicked that link and got Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 206
[06:34] <dura> siccness, They both do different things
[06:34] <dura> siccness, man chmod   and   man chown   to learn how to use them
[06:35] <hyphenated> siccness: the correct combination of those two is necessary to prevent the wrong person accessing files/directories
[06:35] <dura> chown shanges ownership... chmod shanges permissions
[06:35] <dman_> beruic, high-freq, ok the directory has been created by a  normal user, then after mounting the drive on it, the directory show root,root as user,group
[06:35] <dura> changes
[06:35] <siccness> yea i know how to use them
[06:35] <siccness> ok thanks
[06:35] <dura> If you knew how to use them you wouldn't has asked which is 'more secure'.
[06:35] <dura> Being they both do different things.
[06:35] <Larsson-Sweden> _jason, must i be root for the alias command to take effect?
[06:36] <high-freq> siccness: both are just changing permissions of the drive..either be it changing dif ownerships or changing read/write/global modes
[06:36] <samuli> to me it seems that chown is more secure.
[06:36] <beruic> I have just formatted a HD into one etx3 partition and mounted it. Why does it say that there's half a gb used space when the damn thing is empty and nothing shows up in the file manager (even with hidden files on)?
[06:36] <siccness> thanks samuli.
[06:36] <dura> chown changes ownership not permissions
[06:36] <hyphenated> people ask the "more secure" question to all sorts of silly things. at least this time it was something that loosely involved security ;-)
[06:36] <tonygeorge> on my system /dev/hdb9 is my ubuntu installation, is it possible to get a list of hard disk partitions on my computer? or I have to try to mount all of them and write down the valid ones?
[06:36] <dura> true
[06:36] <beruic> dman_: np
[06:36] <samuli> yeah, and when you're the owner you can set strict permissions for everyone else.
[06:36] <dura> tonygeorge, Do you want to see mounted partitions or all partitions?
[06:37] <tonygeorge> dura, all partitions.
[06:37] <samuli> instead of making it availabe for everybody to mess around.
[06:37] <dura> tonygeorge, fdisk/dev/hdb
[06:37] <hyphenated> tonygeorge: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda should list them all. or cat /proc/partitions
[06:37] <dura> then typ ep
[06:37] <dura> err type p
[06:37] <tonygeorge> .
[06:37] <beruic> Why doesn't anyone care to help me?
[06:38] <dura> Berge, I didn't see your question...
[06:38] <tonygeorge> dura and hyphenated thank you very much. you mean /proc/partitions will have all the partitions on my computer including windows partitions?
[06:38] <hyphenated> tonygeorge: yeah, but the output of fdisk -l is more readable
[06:39] <tonygeorge> hyphenated, ok
[06:39] <bluszcz_> hi
[06:39] <goldenratio> hi
[06:39] <McNutella> how do I have the bluetooth become detectable?
[06:39] <_jason> Larsson-Sweden: well the alias command only works for the user you set the alias for.  Removing your local copy is a better option imo
[06:39] <bluszcz_> what are sources.list for security?
[06:39] <hyphenated> beruic: put the output of 'df' and 'df -i' in a pastebin
[06:39] <bluszcz_> can anyone paste me?
[06:39] <bluszcz_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[06:39] <bluszcz_> this one doesn't work
[06:40] <bluszcz_> can anyone paste me grep security /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <hyphenated> bluszcz_: that's what mine says and it works fine for me
[06:40] <goldenratio> google it?
[06:40] <dura> bluszcz_, hybrid is trying to help you...
[06:40] <bluszcz_> hybrid: ?
[06:40] <goldenratio> hybrid horse?
[06:40] <hyphenated> dura: tab completion failed on both names there? :-)
[06:41] <dura> both?
[06:41] <McNutella> seems xp cant detect the bluetooth on ubuntu
[06:41] <dura> No I didn't press tab after I type hy heh
[06:41] <goldenratio> o.o
[06:42] <Abountu> now this is annoying me since sometime now: I'm trying to download skype, http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb and I'm getting an error : Xml parsing error: not well-formed ...
[06:42] <dura> Abountu, Can't just apt-get install skype ?
[06:42] <Abountu> let me try
[06:43] <hybrid> ssup?
[06:43] <Abountu> sudo apt-get install skype ??
[06:43] <Abountu> E: Couldn't find package skype
[06:43] <Abountu> ??
[06:43] <Abountu> how can I fix that?
[06:43] <dura> Abountu, Try sudo apt-cache search skype
[06:43] <rambo3> before you ask here type skype in ubuntu wiki
[06:43] <McNutella> someone help me create a bluetooth PAN between ubuntu and XP please?
[06:43] <beruic> dman_: Change the permissions for the mount
[06:44] <dura> well.... lunchtime... bbiab
[06:44] <hyphenated> Abountu: I just clicked that link and it tried to download the .deb for me
[06:44] <Abountu> I tried "sudo apt-get install skype" no return?!
[06:44] <beruic> hyphenated: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13916
[06:44] <hyphenated> Abountu: try using wget to download it instead. wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[06:44] <Abountu> hphenated? what does that mean? something wrong with my firefox?
[06:44] <beruic> dman_: Did it work?
[06:44] <Abountu> ok let me see
[06:45] <hyphenated> Abountu: *shrug* possibly
[06:45] <hyphenated> beruic: and which one are you complaining about?
[06:45] <hyphenated> (which partition)
[06:45] <Abountu> what does *shrug* mean?
[06:46] <Abountu> wget did " http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb"
[06:46] <Abountu> and then
[06:46] <Abountu> Connecting to www.skype.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80.
[06:46] <Abountu> ...
[06:46] <Abountu> and still waiting
[06:46] <Abountu> is it downloading?
[06:46] <hyphenated> that's a bit screwed
[06:46] <Abountu> mmm
[06:47] <Abountu> what does it mean?
[06:47] <jose> hola
[06:47] <beruic> hyphenated: HDC. When I look at it in Gparted, disk management or the file manager, it's only 5.5 gb, it should be 6.04
[06:47] <dman_> no beruic, i cant write as a normal user, only with root priv
[06:47] <aLPHa_LeaK> Abountu, its basically saying that its trying to download from the local host
[06:47] <Abountu> local host?"
[06:48] <Abountu> why?
[06:48] <beruic> dman_: Try loading som files and dirs to the thing and change permissions for them...
[06:48] <aLPHa_LeaK> Abountu, maybe your dns server is screwed
[06:48] <Abountu> but I can connect to othe pages!
[06:48] <Abountu> in fact I could connect to skype as well
[06:49] <Abountu> and wget  succeeded resolving www.skype.com
[06:49] <Abountu> it's on ly the download
[06:50] <spazzz> Hello is anyone here framiliar with Firestarter?
[06:51] <spazzz> I need some help with Firestarter.  It's being a little more verbose than I'd like I was wondering if someone could help me
[06:52] <beruic> hyphenated: HDC. You found out something?
[06:52] <hyphenated> beruic: not yet
[06:53] <sstchur> does anyone know what conf file the gnome network-admin GUI writes to underneath the hood?  It would be very helpful if I could look at it
[06:54] <rob_p> sstchur:  Probably /etc/network/interfaces
[06:54] <hyphenated> beruic: can you put the output of 'tune2fs -l /dev/hdc1' in a pastebin?
[06:55] <beruic> hyphenated: 2 secs
[06:55] <beruic> hyphenated: You mean 'sudo tune2fs -l /dev/hdc1'?
[06:56] <hyphenated> I didn't need to use sudo
[06:57] <beruic> hyphenated: I did... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13917
[06:57] <sstchur> rob_p, thanks.... and do you know... if I were to copy that file into xubuntu, would that get my wireless working as it does under gnome?
[06:58] <BockBilbo> whats better, vnc or xdmcp?
[06:58] <beruic> hyphenated: Without sudo it says: Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock
[06:58] <hybrid> BockBilbo: vnc is more readily avaliable
[06:58] <BockBilbo> what do you mean by that?
[06:58] <beruic> hyphenated: ... and before that: Acces denied...
[06:59] <hyphenated> beruic: your user isn't in the 'disk' or 'admin' groups, I'm guessing
[06:59] <hybrid> BockBilbo: there are alot more VNC servers and clients
[06:59] <BockBilbo> oks
[06:59] <BockBilbo> thanks
[06:59] <hybrid> no problem
[07:00] <beruic> hyphenated: is that also what causes the half ghost gb?
[07:00] <hyphenated> nope
[07:00] <rob_p> sstchur:  Is your xubuntu install separate from your regular ubuntu install?  I'm not very familliar with xubuntu.  I'm assuming it's just ubuntu with another window manager or something?  Anyway, if it's one and the same install, you shouldn't have to change anything.
[07:01] <bruno> Can someone tell me how to update my firefox 1.0.8 to 1.5?
[07:02] <metatag> bruno : download firefox 1.5 for linux
[07:02] <Kr0ntab> !Firefox1.5
[07:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:02] <McNutella> metatag: not much help eh LOL
[07:02] <_jason> bruno: if you wait 2 weeks you will be able to upgrade to dapper and use the package manager
[07:03] <Lueinden> Dapper comes out in two weeks?
[07:03] <hyphenated> supposed to be released on 1 June
[07:03] <metatag> bruno : I belive you better update now. There were a number of vulnerabilities on 1.0
[07:03] <McNutella> whats special about the dapper ?
[07:03] <hyphenated> or something.
[07:03] <hyphenated> McNutella: it's the next release
[07:03] <ajo> !kubuntu
[07:03] <ubotu> [kubuntu]  Ubuntu+KDE  ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:04] <McNutella> hyphenated: I know its the next one, but whats special about it ?
[07:04] <Tinned_Tuna> hmm
[07:04] <BockBilbo> metatag, he doesnt need to update, he already must have the security fixes on it
[07:04] <Tinned_Tuna> I might write a script to do that update to FF1.5 thingy
[07:04] <hyphenated> McNutella: it's new and shiny? it's got more recent versions of all the packages?
[07:05] <hyphenated> I'm not really sure what answer you want :-)
[07:05] <metatag> bruno : http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>&os=linux&lang=en-US
[07:05] <McNutella> hyphenated: oh then if its all shiny, we must wait.. im all excited at the thought ; )
[07:06] <McNutella> metatag: and for people that dont know how to use .deb ?tar.gz archives?
[07:06] <hyphenated> beruic: I'm all out of ideas about where it's gone. it is probably just filesystem overhead
[07:06] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[07:06] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:06] <beruic> Is it there when you make one too?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> ^^^gives you commands to run
[07:06] <Lueinden> Maybe when I upgrade to Dapper, I won't have to have 112 MB of updates to do on a 56k.
[07:06] <Lueinden> :)
[07:06] <chaos_of_apocaly> where is the kernel?
[07:06] <metatag> McNutella : tar -xzf <file>.tar.gz
[07:06] <chaos_of_apocaly> source
[07:07] <gnomefreak> metatag: not for ff1.5 on breezy i wouldnt use that
[07:07] <hyphenated> Lueinden: on release day, probably not. maybe the day after tho ;-)
[07:07] <McNutella> metatag: yeah, and then to install it/compile it.. some users might not have a clue
[07:07] <Lueinden> :/
[07:07] <Lueinden> Awwww..
[07:07] <metatag> McNutella : no need to compile firefox , it installs rightaway
[07:07] <Lueinden> I downloaded Ubuntu on a friend's cable modem.
[07:08] <beruic> hyphenated: Is it there when you make one too?
[07:08] <McNutella> metatag: so you untar it, and it does it all for you ?
[07:08] <gnomefreak> McNutella: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion   run the commands as shown
[07:08] <chaos_of_apocaly> where is the kernel source?
[07:08] <Calgar> hi, could somone help, i seem to be unable to activate the "universe" or the "multiverse" in package manager, it just takes ages trying to download the repository updates and then says it cant connect to the repository, could somone help me please?
[07:08] <metatag> McNutella: no u have to cd in the directory created
[07:08] <hyphenated> beruic: the raw partition is 6.02GB. once you add a filesystem to it, it takes some of that space for its own internal purposes
[07:08] <McNutella> gnomefreak: im just interested in how that may work, ive already installed it using that page..
[07:08] <chaos_of_apocaly> where is the kernel source?
[07:09] <metatag> McNutella: and run ./firefox-install
[07:09] <Old> Anyone know how to give the user "old" access to /var/www, full access in that dir? A ftp account
[07:09] <beruic> hyphenated: yeah, but 500 mb?
[07:09] <metatag> McNutella: sudo ./firefox-install
[07:09] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me where is the kernel source???????????????
[07:10] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: there is no "THE" kernel
[07:10] <Calgar> www.linux.org ......
[07:10] <chaos_of_apocaly> what then?
[07:10] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: there are many many kernels out there with many many uses
[07:10] <Old> Anyone know how to give the user "old" access to /var/www, full access in that dir? A ftp account
[07:10] <chaos_of_apocaly> alright,but where,the main ones?
[07:10] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: main for what?
[07:11] <chaos_of_apocaly> where are the sources
[07:11] <chaos_of_apocaly> of the system?
[07:11] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: the linux kernel runs on Tivo, on computers, on Palms
[07:11] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: for computers look at kernel.org
[07:11] <chaos_of_apocaly> SOURCE CODE
[07:12] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: lets note use caps
[07:12] <Falluccer> hey
[07:12] <hybrid> chaos_of_apocaly: there are *many* source codes
[07:12] <hybrid> s/note/not
[07:12] <Falluccer> hey, I'm having trouble install ubuntu
[07:12] <hybrid> Falluccer: how so?
[07:12] <Falluccer> it say invalid compressed format
[07:12] <chaos_of_apocaly> of the system.the sources that transmit things to the hardware
[07:13] <Lueinden> Piles and piles of files :P
[07:13] <metatag> chaos_of_apocaly : wat do you need the sources for?
[07:13] <chaos_of_apocaly> to see...
[07:13] <Flannel> chaos_of_apocaly: you'll have to download the kernel source package from apt.
[07:13] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[07:14] <chaos_of_apocaly> how do i do it?
[07:14] <Falluccer> hybrid: it says uncompressing linux and then right below it it says invalid compressed format
[07:14] <Falluccer> then it says system halted
[07:14] <hybrid> Falluccer: have you tried a different CD?
[07:14] <chaos_of_apocaly> how download the kernel?
[07:14] <Falluccer> no
[07:15] <Falluccer> is that what I'm gonna have to do
[07:15] <Falluccer> which mirror do you suggest
[07:15] <Flannel> chaos_of_apocaly: use whatever you normally use to install stuff (like synaptic package manager, or whatever) and search for 'kernel-source' then pick what you'd like to see.
[07:15] <Calgar> chaos_of_aocaly: www.linux.org has the linux kernal source
[07:15] <chaos_of_apocaly> ok
[07:15] <hybrid> Falluccer: i would try a different CD if its shipit CDs, if it is burned check the md5sum then if it matches re-burn
[07:15] <Flannel> or yeah, you can just check linux.org for generic source
[07:15] <hybrid> Falluccer: mirrors matter not
[07:16] <fiorenti> i need a program like network stumbler on windows.??
[07:16] <itrebal> i've been trying to install 'gem' for Ruby, and i've install ruby1.8 and ruby1.8-dev, but none of them supply 'gem' i did apt-get install gem but thats an OpenGL program.
[07:16] <metatag> chaos_of_aocaly : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[07:16] <hybrid> fiorenti: try kismet
[07:16] <metatag> chaos_of_apocaly : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[07:16] <fiorenti> hybrid: has kismet a GUI?
[07:16] <earthen> I want to run a internet sharing script after my dsl connection has connected, how or where should I put the file?
[07:16] <hybrid> fiorenti: yes it does
[07:17] <itrebal> anyone know what package it might be in?
[07:17] <metatag> earthen : try firestarter
[07:17] <sstchur> rob_p,  Right now I have traditional ubuntu installed.  Xubuntu is ubuntu configured with XFCE.  Problems is, XFCE doesn't seem to have the network-admin gui
[07:17] <Old> How do i make a user's home dir to be /var/www, and have him have a ftp account for that dir to with proftpd? (the user is called: web)
[07:17] <sstchur> rob_p, which is the only way I know how to get my wireless card activated and working in ubuntu
[07:18] <Old> Anyone!?
[07:18] <ketsugi> make a symbolic link from /home/web to /var/www
[07:18] <Falluccer> hybrid
[07:18] <itrebal> Old: AFAIK proftpd will use their home directory
[07:18] <earthen> Metatag I have the script done and it is working fine it's just i have to run it manully everything after conicting to DSL
[07:18] <Falluccer> my compter is being weirf
[07:18] <hybrid> Falluccer: yes?
[07:18] <Falluccer> *wierd
[07:18] <hybrid> Falluccer: why?
[07:18] <Falluccer> internet connection
[07:18] <metatag> earthen : oic
[07:18] <earthen> metatag, I want it to auto run
[07:19] <Old> itrebal, can i change this?
[07:19] <Falluccer> hybrid: what were you sayingbefore
[07:19] <Old> how ketsugi ?
[07:19] <fiorenti> hybrid: i have installed kismet.but how do i open it?there's no link in the "a
[07:19] <hybrid> Falluccer: if you burnered the cd check the md5sum to make sure it isnt corrupt
[07:19] <fiorenti> applications" menu
[07:19] <earthen> metatag,  I've put the file in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d  folder but it's not being run there
[07:19] <Falluccer> hybrid: how do I check that
[07:19] <hybrid> fiorenti: try opening a terminal and typing "kismet" <enter>
[07:20] <ketsugi> sudo rm -rf /home/web; sudo ln -s /var/www /home/web
[07:20] <Flannel> Old: if you made the user in the GUI, you can specify their home folder.
[07:20] <ketsugi> make sure there's nothing in the /home/web directory first, though
[07:20] <earthen> Does anyone know where I sould locat this file???
[07:20] <hybrid> Falluccer: what OS are you running atm?
[07:20] <Old> Im using ubuntu server Flannel
[07:20] <Falluccer> well on the one computer i'm trying to put it on, nothing, and the one i'm typing to you from is running windows 2000
[07:21] <metatag> earthen : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBootupHowto
[07:21] <fiorenti> hybrid: FATAL: Please configure at least one packet source.  Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf or on the command line.  Please read the README for more information about configuring Kismet.
[07:21] <fiorenti> Kismet exiting.
[07:21] <hybrid> Falluccer: do a google search for "Windows md5"
[07:21] <itrebal> anyonw know which package provides Ruby's Gem?
[07:21] <earthen> metatag, thanks for the link I'll check that out
[07:21] <Falluccer> hybrid: ok
[07:21] <metatag> earthen : np
[07:22] <Falluccer> when I do eventually get ubuntu on my computer will I be able to network windows 2000 and ubuntu
[07:22] <hybrid> Falluccer: once you get it you will need to match it with the Ubuntu md5, which should be downloaded at the same place you got the iso
[07:23] <Falluccer> and shre files
[07:23] <hybrid> Falluccer: it is possible yess
[07:23] <hybrid> Falluccer: idk if windows can talk to Ubuntu but i do know Ubuntu can talk to Windows
[07:24] <Old> cheers, it worked!
[07:24] <Old> :D
[07:24] <metatag> itrebal : http://fatpenguinblog.com/?p=105
[07:25] <itrebal> metatag: thanks
[07:26] <metatag> itrebal : np
[07:26] <bruno> Yay from ages ago metatag, I just got ff 1.5 working ^_^
[07:26] <jimMmy_> how does ubuntu know which kernel module zu load? i mean my /etc/modules has hardly any common modules listed?
[07:26] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[07:27] <metatag> bruno : congrats !
[07:27] <fiorenti> hybrid: thanks for the link
[07:27] <hybrid> fiorenti: no problem
[07:28] <jimMmy_> i want to compile a new kernel the ubuntu way but i don't know where to enter the modules as for they are only compiled as modules in the default kernel
[07:28] <metatag> jimMmy_ : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[07:30] <Delicate_Shadow> hi guys
[07:30] <metatag> hi Delicate_Shadow
[07:31] <Delicate_Shadow> can someone help me defining the Fn keys in my laptop ??!!
[07:31] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[07:31] <Delicate_Shadow> hi metatag
[07:31] <Mort_Cinder> hi
[07:32] <thinkle> Delicate_Shadow, Are you using GNOME? If so... System->Keyboard Shortcuts...
[07:32] <metatag> hi Mort_Cinder
[07:32] <ptike> hi
[07:32] <metatag> hi ptike
[07:32] <Delicate_Shadow> how about KDE ?
[07:33] <Delicate_Shadow> and by the way how to start the WIFI ?
[07:33] <metatag> Delicate_Shadow : #kubuntu
[07:33] <Delicate_Shadow> ok
[07:34] <Delicate_Shadow> thanx metatag
[07:34] <metatag> Delicate_Shadow : my pleasure
[07:34] <Falluccer> hybrid: it said the checksums are the same
[07:35] <Mort_Cinder> is there a way of moving my installation to another computer, even the installed programs?
[07:35] <ptike> does anybody know where i can find the package gstreamer-0.10-plugins-mad-multiverse?
[07:36] <Falluccer> should I re-download it
[07:36] <KaosX> allo
[07:36] <Calgar> can anyone help, i just tried to do "apt-get update" and got this error message:
[07:36] <hybrid> Falluccer: ok now try burning again at a REAL slow speed
[07:36] <Calgar> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:36] <Calgar> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:36] <Falluccer> i burned it at 8x last time
[07:36] <hybrid> Calgar: use sudo
[07:36] <madmike> Mort_Cinder: there are possibilites
[07:36] <Calgar> oh, heh
[07:36] <KaosX> Calgar ... have you rebooted yet?
[07:37] <hybrid> err
[07:37] <hybrid> not sudo
[07:37] <Calgar> KaosX: wuh?
[07:37] <hybrid> heh i didnt keep reading
[07:37] <Calgar> KaosX: why?
[07:37] <KaosX> Ive had that command so the same thing
[07:37] <KaosX> a reboot fixed it
[07:38] <KaosX> I tried using su root and sudo with no change
[07:38] <Calgar> KaosX: using sudo fixed it, and i rebooted after ubuntu did a kernal update
[07:38] <KaosX> Hmm
[07:39] <KaosX> i had that happen the other day after i did an apt-get upgrade dist and su or sudo didnt fix
[07:39] <slashpc> sois una pila de ellos
[07:39] <slashpc> mejor los dejamos. somos demasiados
[07:40] <Flannel> !es
[07:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:40] <metatag> Mort_Cinder : http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/
[07:40] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[07:40] <hybrid> Old: well
[07:40] <alaskan> hello
[07:40] <KaosX> to create the user the command would be useradd cstrike
[07:41] <alaskan> shoul i buy a HP computer is compatible with liux
[07:41] <alaskan> ?
[07:41] <Calgar> im gunna see if a reboot fixes my problems activating the universe and multiverse, BBS
[07:41] <metwo> hello
[07:41] <hybrid> Old: you could addusr and then his home would be /home/cs and then mkdir /cs/2 and chmod it to let cs have all access
[07:41] <metatag> hello metwo
[07:41] <hybrid> but there maybe any easier way
[07:41] <KaosX> the problem is restricting access to other dirs
[07:41] <KaosX> you might have to place that user in a group
[07:42] <KaosX> and change group permissions in key places
[07:42] <hybrid> personally i would have a box dedicated to CS so i wouldnt need to worry
[07:42] <KaosX> yeah
[07:42] <Mort_Cinder> metatag. thanx for the link, but is it safe as in cant there be compatibility issues?
[07:42] <bon_> i get this error when installing a program http://pastebin.com/715567 i am useing kubuntu
[07:42] <metwo> i was wondering if someone cold help me enable dri on ubuntu for my ati radeon card
[07:42] <RayFredPip> hybrid, hi,are you ?
[07:43] <Falluccer> hybrid: I'll burn it at the slowest speed with no interruptions and report back
[07:43] <Thug-N-Me> how will i burn bin files ?
[07:43] <metatag> Mort_Cinder : Can't say
[07:43] <hybrid> Flannel: iight i wish ya good fortune
[07:43] <hybrid> RayFredPip: good
[07:43] <KaosX> k3b will burn almost anythin
[07:43] <Mort_Cinder> metatag, ok i'll look into it
[07:43] <KaosX> anything that is
[07:44] <B0FH> !hardware
[07:44] <ubotu> hardware is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:44] <Jimmey__> How can I specify a DNS address for ra0
[07:44] <metatag> Mort_Cinder : check this also: http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_systemimager
[07:45] <metwo> anyone
[07:46] <esfurniture> !easysource
[07:46] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:46] <Mort_Cinder> metatag, cool thanx
[07:46] <bruno> OK, this is gonna sound like a silly question but is it just me that can't play the files on www.metacafe.com, or can no-one?
[07:46] <phace> hmmm
[07:46] <phace> how can i set up logitech cordless lx7 ?
[07:46] <metatag> Mort_Cinder : np
[07:46] <metatag> metwo : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:47] <ubuntu_> can someone please help me with changing screen refresh rate ??.. ubuntu defaults @ 60hz   thanks :)
[07:47] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[07:47] <pike__> !res
[07:47] <ubotu> somebody said res was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:47] <Old> The exact command perhaps? :D
[07:48] <ubuntu_> thank you ubotu
[07:48] <megaman123> anyone uses nexus-s? trying to get it to run on ubuntu...did not autodetect it
[07:49] <bruno> Old, you tryin-a do counterstrike in wine?
[07:49] <Thug-N-Me> how do i convert a BIN file to an ISO file ?
[07:49] <s|k> I'm buying a second pc with 60mb of ram and a P2, I want to set it up as a server
[07:49] <s|k> what other kind of hardward do I need?
[07:49] <Flannel> s|k: a NIC ;)
[07:49] <Abountu> hi all
[07:49] <s|k> Flannel: do I need a hub or something?
[07:50] <s|k> I connect through a cable modem atm
[07:50] <Flannel> s|k: um, not for the computer.  Yeah, you'll want a router, probably.
[07:50] <Abountu> is there a way in gaim to put a photo? ( I mean assign a foto to myself)
[07:50] <Flannel> s|k: it'll go wall - cable modem - router - (both computers, separately)
[07:50] <Calgar> back again....
[07:51] <s|k> Flannel: do I need a special linux capabale router?
[07:51] <metatag> phace : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-65471.html
[07:52] <pike__> s|k: any router
[07:52] <dolobo> does anyone no anything about that easy ubuntu program?
[07:52] <kapputu> Have a wireless networking question
[07:52] <Flannel> s|k: nah, packets are all the same.
[07:52] <s|k> is 60mb of ram enough?
[07:52] <Jimmey__> what command can I use to assign a DNS address to a wireless ( ra0 ) interface?
[07:52] <Flannel> s|k: depends on what youre serving.
[07:52] <kapputu> I need to connect to a secure network at home
[07:52] <Flannel> s|k: but probably.
[07:52] <kapputu> and any open network when I'm outside. How do I do that?
[07:52] <s|k> Flannel: I want to put apache on it and an IRC shell (screen + irssi)
[07:53] <s|k> and probably a ssh server
[07:53] <Flannel> s|k: and its just for personal use?
[07:53] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, using wpa?
[07:53] <s|k> Flannel: yep
[07:53] <hybrid> s|k: CLI 60mb is enough
[07:53] <s|k> CLI?
[07:53] <Jimmey__> Command Line Interface
[07:53] <hybrid> command line interface
[07:53] <s|k> sweet
[07:53] <hybrid> Jimmey__: +1
[07:54] <metatag> Abountu : accounts > modify > User Options > Buddy Icon
[07:54] <kapputu> Kr0ntab: what's wpa?
[07:55] <amonkey> is there a program that can read .wab's? i want to check an address book i'm backing up.
[07:55] <hybrid> kapputu: its wireless encryption
[07:55] <s|k> Flannel: thanks
[07:55] <metatag> dolobo: #easyubuntu
[07:55] <Kr0ntab> wifi protected access
[07:55] <s|k> hybrid: thanks :
[07:55] <s|k> :)
[07:55] <hybrid> s|k: np
[07:55] <hybrid> s|k: my tip
[07:55] <Kr0ntab> standard for higher security in wireless networks
[07:55] <kapputu> hybrid: oh that wpa. I thought he was talking about some application in Ubuntu
[07:56] <Sven_vB> hi
[07:56] <hybrid> s|k: do  server install then apt-get irssi and screen
[07:56] <pike__> unless youre my bank which has an open access point :/
[07:56] <kapputu> I use WEP in my home network
[07:56] <s|k> hybrid: thanks :)
[07:56] <Sven_vB> i want XMMS to play files directly from an FTP server. which plugin do i need?
[07:56] <hybrid> s|k: np
[07:56] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, then you can use a tool like wifi-radar or a nhumber of other clients that let you toggle between different networks and store the profiles...
[07:57] <sanmarcos> is there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?
[07:57] <Kr0ntab> connecting to open networks is easy... you can use the default network-admin tool to simply find and connect to them..
[07:57] <Calgar> when i try to enable the universe and multiverse, i get this error:
[07:57] <Calgar> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[07:57] <Calgar> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/Release.gpg: Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[07:57] <Calgar> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/Release.gpg: Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[07:57] <Calgar> im guessing it could be that i need to open some ports on my router or somthing, i dont suppose linux has UPnP?
[07:57] <kapputu> Kr0ntab: what's the exact name of the binary?
[07:57] <hybrid> Calgar: use pastebin
[07:57] <sanmarcos> is there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?
[07:57] <Kr0ntab> sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[07:58] <s|k> is $79 a lot for a router?
[07:58] <Kr0ntab> wifi-radar is just one of many tools
[07:58] <dolobo> with that easy ubuntu i cant get the second comand to work it says im supposed to typ tar -zxf easyubuntu-3.0-beta.tar.gz
[07:58] <Calgar> hybrid: sorry, but can you help me anyway?
[07:58] <Jimmey__> s|k, buy a linksys
[07:58] <metatag> dolobo: #easyubuntu
[07:58] <Jimmey__> They're probably the best
[07:58] <bruno> metatag, do you have that link thing to ff 1.5 again? I would look in history but... lost all that in the upgrade of course xD
[07:58] <s|k> Jimmey__: okay
[07:58] <hybrid> Calgar: try to apt-get update
[07:58] <dolobo> #easyubuntu
[07:59] <pike__> s|k: a simple router should be dirt cheap
[07:59] <kapputu> Kr0ntab: do I need to update my sources? I can't find it
[07:59] <metatag> bruno : http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>&os=linux&lang=en-US
[07:59] <Kr0ntab> yeah its in universe
[07:59] <metatag> dolobo: type //j #easyubuntu
[07:59] <hybrid> s|k: get an WRT54GS or WRT54GL and you can run linux on it
[07:59] <metatag> dolobo: type /j #easyubuntu
[07:59] <Kr0ntab> !sources
[07:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:59] <sanmarcos> is there a way to get over the initram-fs dependency hell when updating from breezy to dapper, and you have a kernel pre .12 ?
[07:59] <Karhuton> I just installed Dapper Beta 2 and got this error from GRUB:   GRUB Loading Stage1.5.   GRUB Hard Disk Error   |  I also get the same error with Breezy. I have two SATA drivers and PATA CD drive.
[08:00] <bruno> Fanks metatag :)
[08:00] <Old> The exact command perhaps?   Make graphics
[08:03] <YoussefAssad> erh...
[08:03] <metatag> heard macOSx rocks
[08:03] <YoussefAssad> People use macs because under some circumstances they're right
[08:03] <YoussefAssad> god, what are we, fifteen?
[08:03] <hybrid> Jimmey__: get me an edittor for video in linus and i will quit OS
[08:03] <hybrid> X
[08:03] <hybrid> in linux*
[08:03] <Jimmey__> hybrid, that's what I meant about the graphics thing.
[08:03] <hybrid> ah
[08:04] <Jimmey__> YoussefAssad, I'm fifteen.
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> metatag: Honestly, it's not bad.  Certainly better than Windows, imo.
[08:04] <hybrid> Jimmey__: although Diva Project has potential
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Good for arts student types especially.
[08:04] <LinuxJones> hybrid: there are a few in development but it will still be a few years until they are mature :(
[08:04] <Abountu> hi
[08:04] <hybrid> LinuxJones: yeah i was going to try Diva but i need more than ogg encoding from it
[08:04] <metatag> tonyyarusso : good for geeks too... atleast paul graham says so.. even rails developers
[08:05] <lkj1> Why isn't my fluxbox menu working? It only displays xterm and exit. The admin @ #fluxbox said that this is an ubuntu specific issue. Can anyone tell me how to get this fixed?
[08:05] <LinuxJones> hybrid: jahshaka is very promising looking, it's a suite of multimedia composing tools.
[08:05] <hybrid> if i could have expose and final cut on Linux i would never need OSX again
[08:05] <lkj1> hybrid: the UI is even more confusing than GIMP's, IMHO.
[08:05] <hastesaver> hybrid, kino? (I'm not serious)
[08:05] <metatag> going now.. night all
[08:05] <hybrid> lkj1: what UI>
[08:06] <Jimmey__> GIMP's UI for me, is easy
[08:06] <jimMmy_> gnu-night :)
[08:06] <Jimmey__> It might be a personal thing
[08:06] <lkj1> The  Jahshaka one, Hybrid
[08:06] <dieffel> hello! Dont now if this is the right channel... correct me if im wrong. I have a new usb-harddisk (250gb) and it got one big reiserFS-partition on. It is automounted just fine, but only in readonly. How can i automount it in read/write? I have a VFAT usbkey, and it works just fine.
[08:06] <hybrid> i love the power of linux but i have no editting software ='(
[08:06] <Old> How do i create a user called "cstrike" that has access to /home/cs/2 and nothing more? (full access in that dir)
[08:06] <LinuxJones> hybrid: I kow what you mean I am buying a Mac simply for Final Cut Studio, although the price is rediculous for what you get for 3 grand(not even a monitor which is bs)
[08:06] <lkj1> sudo mount -rw /dev/sda1, dieffel
[08:06] <hybrid> Old: we heard every time!
[08:06] <hybrid> LinuxJones: you will be surprised
[08:07] <lkj1> hybrid: I am trying to remember the name of a really good editing software similar to FCP for linux..
[08:07] <dieffel> lkj1: ok will it auto mount the next time then?
[08:07] <hybrid> LinuxJones: macs are way more powerful then believed and Apple's software is made to work best on Macs like noone else
[08:07] <hybrid> lkj1: i hope you do :)
[08:07] <LinuxJones> lkj1: you probably mean MainActor
[08:07] <lkj1> I don't know, you may need to ask an intelligent person. I am pretty much clueless.
[08:07] <NickGarvey> Old: will this be ftp only?
[08:07] <YoussefAssad> there's something to be said for an OS designed to a limited spectrum of hardware
[08:08] <YoussefAssad> (re. mac)
[08:08] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: Apple isnt in the OS business fyi
[08:08] <hybrid> hence bootcamp
[08:08] <LinuxJones> hybrid: I know it will be an excellent environment to work in but I am used to pc prices :D
[08:08] <lkj1> That last comment was at dieffel
[08:08] <dieffel> lkj1: ok
[08:09] <kapputu> !sources
[08:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:09] <hybrid> LinuxJones: you get what you pay for in a mac ;D
[08:09] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: I'm not looking at it from the Jobs POV. I'm making the simple observation that limiting the hardware range is something with its own set of advantages, even to the user
[08:09] <lkj1> @ LinuxJones: I don't know what the name was, but it wasn't main actor.. The UI was purple though.
[08:09] <lkj1> purple/grey
[08:09] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: Apple does need to open the OS they opened the hardware
[08:09] <YoussefAssad> boy, half a day in ubuntu and this is really lovely.
[08:09] <LinuxJones> hybrid: jahshaka ?
[08:09] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: running on x86 isn't my definition of opening hardware
[08:10] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: this is where linux fails misserably, PPC Linux should be awesome because it is all standardized
[08:10] <lkj1> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[08:10] <lkj1> Cinelerra was the name.
[08:10] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: Macs can legally run ANY OS
[08:10] <hybrid> can your PC?
[08:10] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: yes, that is an interesting observation. PPC ought to be miles better
[08:10] <LinuxJones> hybrid: that's it, it has the worse interface for a computer program of all time :(
[08:10] <kapputu> when is Dapper getting released?
[08:11] <hybrid> LinuxJones: MainActor looks ALOT like Final Cut
[08:11] <LinuxJones> kapputu: 2 1/2 weeks or so
[08:11] <kapputu> I saw the installation screenshots
[08:11] <kapputu> it was quite cool
[08:11] <intelikey> what is the eol char for sed ?
[08:11] <gymsmoke> i just added a new domain to my nameserver... to reload the dns entries without restarting bind9, is it - rndc regen ? (i forget what the syntax is for this)
[08:11] <lkj1> Why isn't my fluxbox menu working? It only displays xterm and exit. The admin @ #fluxbox said that this is an ubuntu specific issue. Can anyone tell me how to get this fixed?
[08:11] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: friend, I'm trying to look at it from the perspective of my fiancee, not us savvy folk :) She just needs something which works. Limiting the hardware platform helps make it work better
[08:11] <kapputu> It'll help me move more people to linux
[08:11] <LinuxJones> hybrid: they have a demo if you wanna try it, but it's fairly basic.
[08:12] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: yes OSX will never have driver issues like Windows does :D
[08:12] <YoussefAssad> lkj1: go look in .fluxbox/menu, maybe you want to rebuild that
[08:12] <kapputu> would it be risky to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy?
[08:12] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: precisely
[08:12] <hybrid> LinuxJones: ##videoeditting if ya dont mind
[08:12] <YoussefAssad> hybrid: and linux even. Atheros and sis VGA here, not fun
[08:13] <byron> Hello, I have 2 harddrives and am trying to get tehm both working under the same ubuntu system and when I try to get the other one working it doesnt give me read/write permission, how do I get it to do so?
[08:13] <NickGarvey> byron: what file system?
[08:13] <intelikey> Q;     trying to remove line breaks that occure after  :   sed /?/,/^    /d       what should ? be ???
[08:13] <YoussefAssad> all these mounting perms questions make me pine for the days when vim /etc/fstab was the way to go
[08:13] <Old> NickGarvey, Nah
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> How to revert gnome-panel to default applets/locations?
[08:13] <byron> well I first tried extention 2 or 3 forget but then I tried fat
[08:13] <Calgar> odd, i seem to be missing some of the sources listed here...... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto help?
[08:14] <crazy_penguin> kapputu: no.
[08:14] <pez> Hi fellow ubunters, is there anyone that knows how to sort out jerky DVD playback?
[08:14] <NickGarvey> Old: going to allow them to log in over ssh and such?
[08:14] <hybrid> YoussefAssad: yumm vim and fstab
[08:14] <byron> any ideas?
[08:15] <Old> yeah NickGarvey
[08:15] <kapputu> no NTFS write support from linux is very painful
[08:15] <byron> OLD?
[08:16] <byron> ssh?
[08:16] <NickGarvey> Old: hmm.. will the command you are looking for is chroot
[08:16] <needlez> Hi everyone
[08:16] <Kr0ntab> pez, you should enable dma for your dvd drive
[08:16] <Kr0ntab> !dma
[08:16] <NickGarvey> Old: maybe you could put it in there .bashrc file and not allow them to have write access to it
[08:16] <Calgar> how do you reset the "software repositories" menu?
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Old: but they wouldn't be able to do.. anything.. at all..
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd
[08:17] <Calgar> please?
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Old: I think that would break a lot of stuff..
[08:17] <Old> me too
[08:17] <Old> :<
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> pez, also .. you make the change permanent by editing /etc/hdparm.conf
[08:17] <pez> Krontab, does it have cause any risks enabling as the wiki says it has potential problems
[08:17] <Old> nevermind, ill do ftp access mate
[08:17] <needlez> Does anyone know if it is possible to have my Rogers Cable internet successfully running on ubuntu and have my wireless network setup up for my two laptops? i want the wireless network on ubuntu as well
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> not for your dvd drive
[08:17] <NickGarvey> Old: :) know how to set up a chroot jail with ftp?
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> yer all good...
[08:18] <Old> but really appriciated you're help, It's good to know that people are willing to help in this cahnnel. I always come here when i need help, and i ALWYAS get answers :)
[08:18] <Old> i know how to setup a account for having access toa spec dir
[08:18] <Old> so thats np :)
[08:18] <Old> wrote it down D:
[08:18] <Calgar> how do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?
[08:18] <Kr0ntab> there are some risks when changing values on your hard drive as hdparm can adjust many aspects of the drives functionality... but in most cases yer good
[08:18] <NickGarvey> Old: good luck :)
[08:19] <needlez> anyone?
[08:19] <pez> also, why do different multimedia players display DVD playback differently. For example, MPlayer is very pixely
[08:19] <Kr0ntab> pez, using dma is a good thing for cdrom/dvd drives... and it takes the load off of the cpu
[08:19] <hybrid> needlez: what wifi cards are you suing?
[08:19] <Thug-N-Me> will i have a good reasons to switch to dapper ?
[08:19] <needlez> the wifi cards in the laptop?
[08:19] <needlez> *laptops?
[08:19] <hybrid> yes
[08:20] <Old> NickGarvey
[08:20] <needlez> i have no idea, whichever ones came with the computers, infact im pretty sure they are those built-in auto-config ones
[08:20] <LinuxJones> Thug-N-Me: Dapper is quite a bit snappier on the desktop.
[08:20] <Old> you good at mysql btw? :)
[08:20] <Flannel> Thug-N-Me: dapper is a lot quicker
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: Network manager WPA support!
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: (And it's fast and pretty)
[08:20] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel is it ? i heard people saying its slower
[08:20] <hybrid> needlez: then with a wifi router and the network cards you should be good to go
[08:21] <pez> thanks krontab :-) I'll sort out the DMA through the advice from the Wiki documentation
[08:21] <Flannel> Thug-N-Me: Breezy was the "feature" release, Dapper is the bugfix release. of the pair.
[08:21] <Thug-N-Me> tonyyarusso i heard people saying its slower
[08:21] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel ohh i see
[08:21] <Kr0ntab> I haven't noticed the difference... but each use different filters, and scaling algorithms... etc. prolly has something to do with it...
[08:21] <Kr0ntab> np
[08:21] <NickGarvey> Old: haha nope, I know a little bit
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: I heard one say that, faster for me.
[08:21] <needlez> hybrid: sweet. ok, now, the REALLY newb question, lol, how (once i install ubuntu) do i configure it to get my internet going again?
[08:21] <NickGarvey> Old: its just not a skill I need right now so I haven't learn much of it
[08:21] <Calgar> how do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?
[08:21] <Old> kk :)
[08:21] <hybrid> needlez: more than likely it will be ready to go out of the box
[08:22] <Thug-N-Me> tonyyarusso hope it will be for me too :)
[08:22] <needlez> hybrid: sweet, thanks :) btw, im not sure if this matters or now, but im TOTALLY replacing windows with linux, i have another seperate pc for windows (my gaming machine).
[08:22] <kapputu> why would I want the klogd and sysklogd daemons running?
[08:23] <CaptainMorgan> is there a hotkey for locking the system?
[08:23] <hybrid> needlez: nice, have fun :)
[08:23] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: you can set one in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[08:23] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, they log events and errors from the kernel and operating system...
[08:24] <kapputu> aah
[08:24] <kapputu> ok
[08:24] <Kr0ntab> kapputu, they're a good thing
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> awesome, thanks _jason
[08:24] <kapputu> obviously I guess
[08:24] <needlez> hybrid: OH! would you know why Mandriva wont work on my pc. i got the 3 CD's and everything, but when i put them in my drive and click the "install" button nothing happens, and when i reboot with the disk in my drive it totally doesnt read it, even though my boot sequence is in the right order (and yes i burnt the ISO's properly)
[08:24] <kapputu> I thought the server daemons were running by default
[08:24] <kapputu> apache/ftp/dhcp
[08:24] <kapputu> they don't?
[08:24] <hybrid> needlez: cause mandravia is horrid :p no idea really
[08:25] <megaman123> whats the command to change the root password (or set it)??
[08:25] <jack|ass> i have a route entered in my routing table that shouldn't be there.  However, when i try to delete it (route del ip.addr.of.dest) it tells me it doesn't exist.  Is there something special i need to do to remove it that i'm missing?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> Could someone give me the path to the default mail icon in gnome-panel?
[08:25] <Calgar> how do you reset the "software repositories" menu? please?
[08:25] <Kr0ntab> ubotu, tell megaman123 about root
[08:25] <Kr0ntab> !root
[08:25] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:25] <needlez> hybrid: lolol. are there any other themes for ubuntu? or do i have to stick with brown everything? i want some nice looking ones if possible, some that resemble Mac's OSX perhaps?
[08:26] <hybrid> needlez: you can theme gnome and kde etc
[08:26] <_rab_> needlez, check gnome-look.org
[08:26] <jhenn> how can i find out what video card my computer has from the ubuntu livecd?
[08:26] <Kr0ntab> jhenn, lspci
[08:26] <Thug-N-Me> Flannel tonyyarusso in gnome its a lot faster right ?
[08:26] <Kr0ntab> from command line
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: Yeah.
[08:27] <needlez> and i'm assuming all of these will work with ubuntu? (it runs off the GNOME system right? and Kubuntu is the KDE version?
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Thug-N-Me: b/c of the 2.14 improvements.
[08:27] <Flannel> needlez: yes
[08:27] <LinuxJones> Thug-N-Me: it's quit snappy
[08:27] <Thug-N-Me> LinuxJones ok
[08:27] <_rab_> needlez, if you installed ubuntu then its default is gnome, is you installed kubuntu its default is kde
[08:27] <needlez> cool
[08:28] <needlez> whats the difference between gnome and kde? or do i want to know? is it easier not knowing? lol, like, is there alot to explain?
[08:28] <Flannel> needlez: theyre differet environments.  Youre welcome to install KDE and find out.
[08:28] <samuli> yeah :)
[08:29] <hybrid> needlez: philosphy
[08:29] <samuli> like Flannel said, just install kubuntu or ubuntu and then install the other environment and try both out.
[08:29] <samuli> it's really easy.
[08:29] <needlez> maybe after i get used to linux i'll go kde. go to see the difference, but for now, i'll stick with what they think the "default" should be
[08:29] <hybrid> needlez: gnome is more about being slick and simple
[08:29] <samuli> well not 'slick' :)
[08:29] <hybrid> samuli: slick as in not looking like windows :D
[08:29] <samuli> for some reason gnome is being a bit slow on dapper. To me atleast.
[08:30] <hybrid> samuli: i've heard it is blazing on dapper
[08:30] <samuli> gnome is a lot better than windows :)
[08:30] <samuli> well.. it's not :P
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> Pretty please?  Just right-click on the mail icon, properties, and find out the file path for the icon.
[08:30] <samuli> kde is lot 'snappier'
[08:30] <needlez> im glad i am finally getting the chance to go linux, i have wanted to do it for so long...but before this i had a wireless adapter, so i couldnt (no drivers or anything...stupid d-link) but now im hard-wired right in to my modem : D
[08:30] <samuli> but I like gnome.. so.. I live with it.
[08:30] <needlez> im gonna get rid of windows once and for all!!
[08:31] <samuli> and it's not that bad really. just slower.
[08:31] <samuli> needlez, good man :)
[08:31] <mDot> needlez congrats... welcome to the club
[08:31] <hybrid> needlez: there are some dlink drivers
[08:31] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: which icon?
[08:31] <Old> NickGarvey
[08:31] <needlez> i know there are some d-link drivers, but not for my particular model.
[08:31] <needlez> it was a total bumme
[08:31] <needlez> r
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: For the mail launcher in gnome-panel.
[08:32] <Old> when i try to downloada file from my webserver, it says "you dont have a permission to download this file"
[08:32] <samuli> My windows were bugged down my spyware and stuff like a year ago and I still haven't had any reason to re-install it.
[08:32] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: the evolution one?
[08:32] <Old> how do i open it so everyone can download a file from the webserver? I tried to ex download http://dust2.mine.nu/cstrike/maps/de_mjolby3.bsp
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Yeah.
[08:32] <NickGarvey> Old: know how to change the permissions?
[08:32] <kapputu> I really want to contribute to Ubuntu but I need a mentor
[08:32] <needlez> yeah, im getting sick of all this spy ware and mal ware and stuff. all the viruses floating around...
[08:32] <kapputu> I'm a lazy bum who won't do something unless someone gets me started
[08:32] <_rab_> needlez, good idea
[08:33] <kapputu> is there a room for Ubuntu developers?
[08:33] <needlez> the more i read about it, the more i see how much better linux is turning out to be
[08:33] <NickGarvey> Old: chmod a+r /maps/*
[08:33] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/evolution.svg
[08:33] <hybrid> kapputu: always
[08:33] <NickGarvey> Old: chmod a+r ./maps/* if you are in cstrike
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Thanks.
[08:33] <Calgar> will somone please help me, i cant seem to add any repositories apart from the cd, and i appear to not have some of the options that are shown here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto so i think i may have accidentally deleted somthing. please!? i only installed like a couple of hours ago!
[08:33] <NickGarvey> !aptcd
[08:33] <ubotu> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:", or in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[08:33] <needlez> im just waiting for the ISO to finish downloading....i think i lost my SHIPIT disks they sent me when i moved...
[08:33] <samuli> needlez, funny thing is that once I got to linux I realized how ugly and hard to use windows is.. And I thought those were the good points of windows.
[08:33] <kapputu> hybrid: I meant is there a channel for UBuntu developers?
[08:34] <Old> NickGarvey, i want it to be download able, I mean, all maps/files in /var/www
[08:34] <LinuxJones> kapputu: what language ?
[08:34] <samuli> needlez, are you downloading breezy or dapper?
[08:34] <hybrid> kapputu: #ubuntu-motu ?
[08:34] <needlez> samuli: hahahaah yeah windows is turning out to be more of a pain than anything else. everything i think i have it the way i want it, something goes wrong
[08:34] <NickGarvey> Old: then everyone needs read priv
[08:34] <Old> how?
[08:34] <crimsun> kapputu: we're in -devel
[08:34] <NickGarvey> Old: cd to /var/ww
[08:34] <needlez> samuli: Brezzy i think.
[08:34] <Old> yeah
[08:34] <Old> done
[08:34] <railk> i have a laptop with ati radeon x700 mobility, and i'm getting display problems. to be exact, i get scanline-thingies generated by random rows of the screen being shifted a few pixels to the left
[08:34] <samuli> o-kay.
[08:35] <samuli> needlez, just expect some minor problems and a bit of frustration at the start.
[08:35] <NickGarvey> Old: are they all in folders?
[08:35] <Old> all folders are in /var/www
[08:35] <samuli> it takes a bit of time to understand the linux way of things.
[08:35] <Calgar> NickGarvey: that diddnt help, the thing is, the only binary option i have on the list is backports
[08:35] <kbrooks> What must a Python project do to make it be packagable?
[08:35] <needlez> samuli: i always do, its part of the process lol.
[08:35] <Old> thats my webserver, i want people to be able to downlad anything in there
[08:35] <Old> its linked ot my counter-strike server, as a ftp for downloading the maps.
[08:35] <Old> so thats why :)
[08:35] <needlez> samuli: but i figure, once i get the hang of things, it will be alot better
[08:35] <samuli> good thing is, that almost everything is repairable and you know what is going on. Much unlike in windows.
[08:35] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: packagable ?
[08:36] <needlez> hahah
[08:36] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: yo want to make .deb ?
[08:36] <kbrooks> LinuxJones: Yeah
[08:36] <calamari> hi
[08:36] <NickGarvey> ftp doesn't support symlinks..
[08:36] <Old> NickGarvey, All folders/files in /var/www should be download able.
[08:37] <calamari> I'm about to changegraphics cards, and I figure it will not load X when I reboot.. I remember there was a command I'll need, dpkg-reconfigure (something).. what is the rest?
[08:37] <NickGarvey> Old: then "chmod -R a+r /var/www"
[08:37] <Karhuton> Is it possible to boot to the ubuntu on the hard drive with the installation cd?
[08:37] <Old> wait NickGarvey
[08:37] <kbrooks> calamari: xserver-xorg
[08:37] <calamari> kbrooks: thanks!
[08:37] <Old> Is there a possiblity todo so all files/folders cannot be listed, but download able ?
[08:37] <Old> that'd be GREAT
[08:37] <kbrooks> calamari: switch to vesa b4 u reboot
[08:37] <odyssey> it just takes time to figure out what linux software can replace windows with
[08:38] <kbrooks> calamari: then switch, then boot into gui
[08:38] <NickGarvey> Old: make an index.html page
[08:38] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: I havn't made it that far yet but google seems to point to a #debina-mentors channel
[08:38] <calamari> ahh, good idea
[08:38] <Old> OK, done
[08:38] <NickGarvey> Old: that way they don't get a dir listing, then link only to the things you want
[08:38] <Old> well..
[08:38] <Old> oh
[08:38] <Old> ok
[08:38] <Old> hmpfh
[08:38] <NickGarvey> Old: or you could make a sub directory with symlinks to only the files you want
[08:38] <samuli> karhuton, yes. And dapper you can install from the live-cd as well.
[08:38] <NickGarvey> after you have made the index.html
[08:38] <Old> nah
[08:38] <Calgar> is there anyway to replace my missing entries in repositories? the only binary option i have there is backports, please
[08:38] <kbrooks> calamari: after u get ur vid card configgured, switch again, then reboot
[08:38] <Old> so, a index.html in /cstrike /maps etc?
[08:39] <Old> correct?
[08:39] <hastesaver> !tell Calgar about easysource
[08:39] <calamari> kbrooks: thanks a lot! :)
[08:39] <Karhuton> samuli: I want to boot to /dev/sda2 from hdd - how can I do that with Dapper Beta 2 CD?
[08:39] <NickGarvey> Old: I guess? not sure what you want
[08:39] <Karhuton> *hdd = CD
[08:39] <Old> Yeah, i have those folders, dont want those ot be shown
[08:39] <LinuxJones> kbrooks: or #ubuntu-motu might be a good place to ask.
[08:39] <samuli> karhuton, Umm, I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish?
[08:40] <MisterN> hastesaver: the link from !easysource is broken, or rather the site behind the link is broken
[08:40] <samuli> karhuton, you just want to mount that partition?
[08:40] <Old> how do i restart the webserver again NickGarvey ?
[08:40] <Calgar> hastesaver: the link that the bot gave me is broken, it gives me this error Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting ')' in /var/www/www.ubuntulinux.nl/public_html/content/php/source-o-matic.php on line 206
[08:40] <Old> /etc/apt/apache2 restart or ?
[08:40] <NickGarvey> Old: sudo killall apache
[08:40] <Old> and then? :D
[08:40] <Karhuton> samuli: no, grub is broken in the mbr of sda. I want to boot to CD, load it's kernel and mount the root system on sda2 (sda1 is windows)
[08:41] <NickGarvey> Old: then apache -k start or something, check the man file
[08:41] <Karhuton> Or something like that
[08:41] <hastesaver> Calgar, it was working fine a while ago... maybe you can wait till they fix their site (or just ask someone else for their sources.list)
[08:41] <Flannel> Old: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:41] <Thug-N-Me> whats Edubuntu ?
[08:41] <samuli> karhuton, you can just re-install grub
[08:41] <Flannel> Old: erm, with sudo.
[08:41] <Old> k thanks
[08:41] <Old> does sudo matter btw?
[08:41] <hastesaver> MisterN, Yeah, it's broken (only the easysource page, though; the main page seems fine)... since when?
[08:41] <Karhuton> samuli: No, I can't. It won't work. Bios problem
[08:41] <samuli> karhuton, oh. ok.
[08:41] <Flannel> Old: yes.  Because as a user you can't do that.  (And that restarts it, don't need the killall stuff)
[08:42] <Old> ah ok
[08:42] <MisterN> hastesaver: no idea since when. at least since yesterday
[08:42] <Calgar> hastesaver: can you give me your sources.list?
[08:42] <gimpyhtml> is there an ubuntu equivalent to opening multiple folder/files at once into a program
[08:42] <hastesaver> Calgar, lol, ok; but be warned it has a lot of "extra" repositories :)
[08:42] <samuli> karhuton, well I don't know if you can sort of boot from cd and make it believe it's in the hdd..
[08:42] <gimpyhtml> similar to the CTRL click in windows
[08:42] <pvd2000> hey samuli
[08:43] <samuli> hey pvd2000.
[08:43] <Calgar> hastesaver: thats cool, i think i can trust that none of them will screw up my comp, so yeah, please send it to me
[08:43] <gabo> can anyone tell me how to mount a floppy, please?
[08:43] <pvd2000> samuli, I installed puppy linux for fun today and I must say its ridiculousy fast, not a replacement for ubuntu though.
[08:43] <samuli> what does it use for wm?
[08:43] <defendguin> why does the mplayer-skins package only have 2 stinking skins?
[08:44] <pvd2000> haha, Im not even running Xorg
[08:44] <samuli> oh, right :)
[08:44] <samuli> well I sort of want a desktop :)
[08:44] <pvd2000> Im running, Xvesa
[08:44] <pvd2000> it has a desktop I mean
[08:44] <samuli> ok.
[08:45] <Calgar> defendguin: because no one can be bothered to make any more?
[08:45] <Abountu> I trying to install easyubuntu
[08:45] <Abountu> I did what they said on the site
[08:45] <Abountu> and then
[08:45] <kbrooks> Abountu: and?
[08:45] <ubuntu_> my video card is ati but lspci says "unknown" how can i find out which one it is
[08:45] <Abountu> I got an error on the last command
[08:45] <odyssey> i have a question about k9copy
[08:45] <Abountu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[08:45] <Abountu> File "easyubuntu.py", line 10, in ?
[08:45] <pvd2000> wow they have easyubuntu now? Ubuntu is so easy to install:-x, hehe.
[08:45] <Calgar> hastesaver: are you going to send it to me please?
[08:45] <Abountu>  replace(confdir
[08:45] <defendguin> Calgar: its not like anyone has to make skins they just have to put them in the package
[08:45] <Abountu>  File "/home/charbel/easyubuntu/detect.py", line 113, in replace
[08:46] <Abountu> if "cdrom" in line or (line.startswith("deb ") and repos_URI == line.split()[1] ):
[08:46] <odyssey> does anybody use k9copy
[08:46] <Abountu> UnboundLocalError: local variable 'repos_URI' referenced before assignment
[08:46] <Abountu> can you help?
[08:46] <ed39> hi all im new to this
[08:46] <kbrooks> Abountu: do not paste
[08:46] <hastesaver> Calgar, look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13923
[08:46] <samuli> pvd2000, easyubuntu automatically installs rar, divx, mp3 etc. support.
[08:46] <pvd2000> gxine plugin works better for me than mplayer plugin in firefox
[08:47] <pvd2000> Ahhhh
[08:47] <pvd2000> that is convient
[08:47] <needlez> samuli: on that website gnome-look.org, where abouts should i go to download total package themes? the GTK 1.x section? or the GTK 2.x section?
[08:47] <kbrooks> samuli: may i correct you? "semi-automatically"
[08:47] <samuli> kbrooks, feel free to :)
[08:47] <Calgar> hastesaver: ok, what do i do with it? please
[08:47] <Abountu> kbrooks sorry
[08:47] <pvd2000> Ill keep in that mind for whenever I update to Dapper drake when the final release comes out.
[08:47] <kbrooks> samuli: EU does not install on run
[08:47] <ubuntu_> how can i find out what video card I have?
[08:48] <Abountu> anyone managed to install easyubuntu?
[08:48] <Flannel> ubuntu_: open your box and look?
[08:48] <samuli> needlez, I don't think there's anything as a package.. gtk 2.x is the controls, icons are icons and metacity is for the window decorations.
[08:48] <Calgar> ubuntu_: open the side of your computer
[08:48] <tonygeorge> hi i have updated ubuntu and since then I have no X windows. It says some error messages with "Unresolved symbols". Doing dpkt-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt solve this problem. How can i get back the Xwindows?
[08:48] <ed39> tried to install new version
[08:48] <Karhuton> Dapper b2 doesn't come with LILO?
[08:48] <kbrooks> Abountu: its a bug
[08:48] <ubuntu_> Calgar, Flannel its a laptop you insensitive clods
[08:48] <Calgar> heh
[08:48] <Flannel> ubuntu_: you didn't specify that, now did you.
[08:48] <tonygeorge> im using breezy
[08:48] <shimondav> after installing "server" minimal installation, which package should i apt-get to get the minimal gnome gui?
[08:48] <odyssey> what software do you recommend to copy dvds
[08:48] <hastesaver> Calgar, put that as your /etc/apt/sources.list (if you're sure you want to :)
[08:49] <ubuntu_> Flannel, no i didn't
[08:49] <Flannel> Karhuton: it does, but you have to use expert install to install it.
[08:49] <ubuntu_> Flannel, so do you have any other suggestions?
[08:49] <Abountu> kbrooks, any known fix?
[08:49] <samuli> needlez, to install them you just download the tarballs (like rar's or zip-packages) and from the desktop move them to the theme-manager window.
[08:49] <_paulb> how do i set up vnc server so i can wiew my desktop if i have a dm such as xfce?
[08:49] <Karhuton> Flannel: I'm running the normal install and interupted the Grub installation. How can I install lilo instead, without re-running the whole installation?
[08:49] <needlez> samuli: hmm this all seems confusing. i'm sure i'll figure it out though
[08:49] <_jason> ubuntu_: lspci and/or lshw
[08:49] <comrade> I keep getting this problem with firefox, everytime I go to save a file under my user account it says /tmp/mi2bd8n7.exe could not be saved because you do not have permission to change the contents of that folder
[08:49] <kbrooks> Abountu: yes
[08:49] <samuli> needlez, it's very easy indeed :)
[08:50] <samuli> just ask for help when you're at that point.
[08:50] <kbrooks> Abountu: go into easyubuntu/trunk/detect.py
[08:50] <needlez> samuli: well this seems like something i should do once i have ubuntu installed, for now, im not going to worry about it
[08:50] <kbrooks> Abountu: Find "def replace(confdir):"
[08:50] <tonygeorge> or is there anyway to rollback a previous upgradation of ubuntu? or Can I re-install ubuntu without loosing data?
[08:50] <shimondav> after installing "server" minimal installation, which package should i apt-get to get the minimal gnome gui?
[08:51] <kbrooks> Abountu: then find "for line in sourceslist:"
[08:51] <odyssey> does anybody know what to use to copy dvds
[08:51] <ubuntu_> _jason, i did it says "unknown ATI"
[08:51] <Flannel> ubuntu_: you might try googling for your laptop, since you haven't changed it.
[08:52] <ubuntu_> Flannel, this laptop comes with various video cards depending on initial config
[08:52] <kbrooks> Abountu: on the blank space before that line, add "repos_URI = ''"
[08:52] <_paulb> how would i set up vncserver to use my computer thathas a dm such as efce?
[08:52] <Calgar> uh, how do i open sources.list not in read only?
[08:52] <_paulb> xfce
[08:52] <_jason> ubuntu_: what brand?
[08:52] <nickrud> tonygeorge, no real way to rollback; if you save everything under /home/tonygeorge you'll keep your data
[08:52] <kbrooks> Abountu: save and close the file
[08:52] <ubuntu_> _jason, dell
[08:52] <kbrooks> Abountu: rerun easyubuntu.py
[08:52] <Mercutio150> Hello does anyone know much about archiving?
[08:52] <ubuntu_> Mercutio150, man tar?
[08:53] <_jason> ubuntu_: you have a service tag somewhere on the computer, login to the dell support site and it will tell you I think, otherwise call dell and they can tell you
[08:53] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes i did save everything under that directory. but will it be there if I re-install ubuntu on the same partition?
[08:53] <ubuntu_> _jason, k
[08:53] <Mercutio150> but is that going to put into multiple packets
[08:53] <nickrud> tonygeorge, no, you'll need to reload that onto the hard drive. You can avoid this for next time by making /home it's own partition
[08:53] <Calgar> how do i open sources.list as writable? please
[08:53] <Mercutio150> I have files bigger than 4G
[08:53] <Jowi> ubuntu: you might be able to find out by following the instructions on this page http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[08:54] <nickrud> Calgar, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[08:54] <Jowi> ubuntu_: ^^^
[08:54] <megaman123> anyone here with knowledge on dvb....can not scan "failed to open '/dev/dvb/adapter0/fontend0'
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Calgar: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <khaled> hi.. is the mono package in ubuntu complete ?
[08:54] <Abountu> kbrooks: sorry but I couldn't find "for line in sourceslist:" I couldn't find sourcelist neither
[08:54] <khaled> i can not find glib-sharp or gtk-sharp
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Calgar: if that doesnt work try gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:54] <ChoboMog> Hey.  Could someone help me with a possible compatibility problem with a new hard drive?
[08:54] <gnomefreak> "
[08:54] <peanutbutter7836> how do i set up vnc on xubuntu
[08:54] <ChoboMog> I'm running an old Pentium III PC and am planning to buy/install a 250gb hard drive which is on sale.  However, I've heard that there can be problems with an old BIOS and a hard drive above 137gb.  I know there is a utility from Intel, called the Application Accelerator, which can let me access the full 250gb even if my BIOS does not support it.  Unfortunately the utility is only offered for Windows, so there is no Linux support.
[08:55] <Abountu> kbrooks: there is "source.list" though
[08:55] <Kr0ntab> hehe... I guess there's an apt-get for windows, called win-get.  funny.. but pretty useful.  http://windows-get.sourceforge.net/
[08:55] <ChoboMog> The utility would work for me right now, since I am still running Windows XP.  However, I was planning on installing Drapper Drake when it is released on June 1st.  Does anyone know if a similar utility is available for Linux or if the drive might work, even with an old BIOS, as long as each partition is below 137gb?
[08:55] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok, thats too bad. unfortunately i didnt make /home a seperate partition. :-( Any chance that I can only reinstall the x windows? I have the original installation CDs
[08:55] <Jowi> ubotu, tell peanutbutter7836 about vnc
[08:55] <kbrooks> Abountu: pm me
[08:55] <Sputnik_NL> Wat will run lighter on my system (AMD Athlon XP 1700+, 256mb RAM), GNOME or KDE?
[08:55] <nickrud> tonygeorge, oh, X, that's one of the big reasons downgrading can be harsh ;(
[08:55] <paradizelost> ChoboMog: i've found that a lot of the time, the linux kernel can see the data even if the bios doesn't
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: gnome
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: xfce ;)
[08:56] <Sputnik_NL> gnomefreak: how usable is xfce?
[08:56] <tonygeorge> nickrud: Sorry I didnt get you. What do you mean?
[08:56] <mDot> Sputnik_NLbarely...
[08:56] <Elazar> I'm trying to compile subcommander from source and I'm getting an error in what looks like a standard include. Source and error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13924 Anyone know what the problem might be?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: what do you mean usable?
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: i can do anything in xfce that i can do in anyother desktop
[08:56] <Sputnik_NL> gnomefreak: well how it preforms in every day use, so stability, ease-of-use
[08:57] <Karhuton> Flannel: can I boot the system on the hard drive via the installation cd, with something like boot: linux /dev/sda2 (if the default image is 'linux') ?
[08:57] <Sputnik_NL> gnomefreak: I read you
[08:57] <Karhuton> *linux root=/dev/sda2
[08:57] <Calgar> gnomefreak, i got this : (gedit:8982): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[08:57] <Calgar> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:57] <nickrud> tonygeorge, did you do a breezy to dapper upgrade? Why do you believe you need to roll back X anyway?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> Sputnik_NL: it works great as everyday use but for ease of use i find it very easy but thats me
[08:57] <gnomefreak> Calgar: it still opened right?
[08:58] <Calgar> yeah, but nothing was in it
[08:58] <Calgar> or, is there supposed to be nothing in there?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Calgar: run gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:58] <Sputnik_NL> gnomefreak: I see, looking the screenshots it reminds me of running WindowMaker in the past ;)
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Calgar: with the " this time
[08:58] <hastesaver> Hmm, if I enable the root account, I won't have to worry about incorrectly using sudo instead of gksudo...
[08:59] <paradizelost> hey, anyone wanna know the best enc. key for wireless?  abc123def4
[08:59] <paradizelost> :D
[08:59] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: not true
[08:59] <hastesaver> does starting something from "sudo -i" have the same effect as gksudo?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: what do you think gksu is?
[08:59] <tonygeorge> nickrud: no i didnt upgrade to dapper. it is still breezy. but it will show me a message that there are upgrades ready to install, so I clicked to install. Then it said i need to reboot, ok reboot. But after rebooting, a message said there was some error with X server and cannot be used. Showed me a lot of text from a log file.
[08:59] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: no
[08:59] <Calgar> gnomefreak: same thing happens
[08:59] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: sudo -i is not for gui sudo -s is iirc
[08:59] <gnomefreak> Calgar: nothing is in it?
[09:00] <tonygeorge> nickrud: sorry i mean it showed me a message that there....
[09:00] <nickrud> tonygeorge, ah, that's a fixable problem probably. try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Calgar: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is what you are running?
[09:00] <Calgar> gnomefreak: yeah, nothing is there
[09:00] <nickrud> hastesaver, sudo -i or sudo -s : to see the difference, do an env | sort after each of sudo -i & sudo -s.  sudo -i is safer.
[09:00] <Calgar> gnomefreak: yes, and i tried it with and without the speech marks
[09:00] <tonygeorge> nickrud: I have tried it. but still cannot.
[09:00] <nickrud> hastesaver, try gksudo as well
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Calgar: you do have gnome installed right?
[09:00] <Calgar> im using gnome, yes
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Calgar: try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:01] <Karhuton> Can I boot the system on the hard drive via the installation cd, with something like boot: linux root=/dev/sda2 (if the default image is 'linux') ?
[09:01] <Blue89> I am chatting from a fresh 5.10 install, and loving every minute of it, but I noticed something strange: my opengl rendering is slower now than it was in windows. is there something I have to configure, or is it just the games I am playing? (the speed varies in game)
[09:01] <nickrud> tonygeorge, hm. Is there any way you can get a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.log onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  ?
[09:01] <hastesaver> Not to troll, but I've enabled the root account, and start gui apps from it fine. None of the arguments on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo seems convincing to me
[09:02] <kapputu> when I try to install xemacs I get an error about dependencies
[09:02] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: open cups
[09:02] <samuli> blue89, type fglrxinfo in the terminal.
[09:02] <Calgar> gnomefreak: its empty...
[09:02] <gnomefreak> Calgar: are you typing it the way i am?
[09:02] <nickrud> tonygeorge, there's a script you can run from the console that will paste those files, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[09:02] <megaman123> how can i install a firmware ??
[09:02] <nny> whats the packages for compiling (make, etc) ?
[09:02] <_jason> !b-e
[09:02] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:02] <gnomefreak> nny: build-essential
[09:02] <Calgar> gnomefreak: exactly
[09:03] <Blue89> samuli, command not found
[09:03] <tonygeorge> nickrud: I will try. but I only have links to browse internet. let me try if I can paste it. what is the scripts name?
[09:03] <hastesaver> gnomefreak, just to be clear, I login to the root account with "ssh -X root@machinename". After this, running GUI apps is perfectly fine, right?
[09:03] <samuli> hmm.. what card are you using?
[09:03] <nny> thanks1
[09:03] <nickrud> tonygeorge, it's at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Calgar: type this for me  gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <gnomefreak> shoot
[09:03] <Blue89> I don't know, it is a laptop
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Calgar: dont type that
[09:03] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok i will try.
[09:03] <samuli> blue89, probably you don't have opengl enabled.
[09:03] <Blue89> a toshiba satellite, if that helps
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Calgar: type this gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:04] <pvd2000> what package are the locate and whereis commands in?
[09:04] <sixpoint> my locate database isnt finding anything
[09:04] <sixpoint> how do I get it to rebuild ?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> hastesaver: cups has nothing to do with ssh
[09:04] <Blue89> so it is all software rendered now? crap
[09:04] <paradizelost> Blue89: is it an Intel vid. card?
[09:04] <Kr0ntab> hastesaver, running apps "regularly" as root is not impossible... just not the best practice.
[09:04] <Calgar> gnomefreak: same error, and same window with nothing in it......
[09:04] <nickrud> sixpoint, sudo updatedb
[09:04] <sixpoint> thanks
[09:05] <sixpoint> couldnt remember the command
[09:05] <Blue89> no clue, it is whatever this laptop is built with
[09:05] <gnomefreak> Calgar: can you join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:05] <sixpoint> just installed ubuntu
[09:05] <ubuntu_> _jason, dell chat room is terrible
[09:05] <hastesaver> If it's not offtopic, I'd like to know more about why sudo is better than su (for a single-user machine)
[09:05] <ubuntu_> _jason, i had to give them all my information and still havne't found out what driver it is
[09:05] <paradizelost> hastesaver: didn't you ask the same ? last night?
[09:05] <Calgar> gnomefreak: ok, i have joined it
[09:05] <samuli> blue89, try glxgears -info
[09:06] <sixpoint> hastesaver: google it
[09:06] <hastesaver> paradizelost, no!
[09:06] <gnomefreak> i see you
[09:06] <paradizelost> samuli: glxinfo would suffice for taht
[09:06] <paradizelost> hastesaver: k.  someone had the exact same ? last night...
[09:06] <nickrud> hastesaver, security is a continuum; what's right for some is not right for others. ymmv
[09:06] <Sputnik_NL> Is it recommend to run "firestarter" along with ubuntu?
[09:06] <_jason> ubuntu_: there is a dell chat room?
[09:06] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, no its not becavuse there are no listening ports on ubuntu
[09:06] <paradizelost> hastesaver: lets say you accidentally do an rm -Rf /, as root, you'd be screwed
[09:06] <samuli> paradizelost, yeah, but you couldn't see the sweet gears and how fast they're turning. :)
[09:06] <ubuntu_> _jason, yeah some 1on1 thing
[09:06] <ubuntu_> _jason, i think its java not sure though
[09:06] <hastesaver> paradizelost, and if I do it with sudo, I'm equally screwed
[09:07] <Sputnik_NL> ubuntu_: Thanks
[09:07] <sixpoint> whats a good linux text editor ?
[09:07] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, but if you really feel paranoid it won't hurt
[09:07] <paradizelost> hastesaver: but, with sudo, you have to enter your password, gives you a chance to correct your mistake
[09:07] <_jason> ubuntu_: tell sixpoint about editor
[09:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell sixpoint about editor=
[09:07] <samuli> I don't really like the sudo-thing either.
[09:07] <ubuntu_> sixpoint, emacs or vi is what most people use, some nano or gedit which are easier
[09:07] <Sputnik_NL> Are there any other programs who can improve ubuntu's security, a little like SElinux or AppArmor? (on Fedora/SUSE)
[09:07] <nickrud> sixpoint, gedit, gvim, emacs21, nano, my gosh, anjuta,
[09:07] <sixpoint> any graphical ones ?
[09:07] <paradizelost> hastesaver: plus, if you run apps as root, you run a risk of having hte system compromized
[09:08] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, nah fedora has selinux and there is hardened debian iirc
[09:08] <paradizelost> hastesaver: just like you don't want apache running w/ root privileges
[09:08] <paradizelost> sixpoint: i use vim/gvim
[09:08] <Jimmey__> How do I specify a DNS address without X?
[09:08] <hastesaver> paradizelost, I only log in to root to do single things at a time anyway :)
[09:08] <sixpoint> I dont like vim
[09:08] <sixpoint> too complicated to learn
[09:08] <ubuntu_> Jimmey__, i think resolve.conf
[09:08] <ajamuk> hi!
[09:08] <paradizelost> hastesaver: well, then sudo should be fine for you.
[09:08] <nickrud> sixpoint, I'd recommend gvim, it's menu driven as well. Gedit is quick & nice
[09:08] <hastesaver> paradizelost, I don't run apps as root. I'm just saying, for the things for which it's recommended to use sudo, I use real root
[09:08] <ubuntu_> sixpoint, its really quite simple
[09:08] <LinuxJones> Sputnik_NL: you can install bastille it's a hardening program for linux
[09:08] <sixpoint> call me a newb, but I like the way dreamweaver editor works
[09:09] <ajamuk> can anything read me?
[09:09] <Jimmey__> ubuntu_, where's that
[09:09] <paradizelost> hastesaver: the only reason i enable login as root, is to be able to do scp of protected files
[09:09] <hastesaver> paradizelost, but sudo asks me to type a password, which is a pain, and more importantly, it doesn't work with X apps
[09:09] <Sputnik_NL> ubuntu_: No no need for extra applications/services?
[09:09] <ubuntu_> sixpoint, i can email you an emacs quick reference sheet that will get you learning emacs in no time. its pdf. just pm me your email if you want it
[09:09] <_jason> ajamuk: read you?
[09:09] <ajamuk> alguien habla espaol?
[09:09] <_jason> !es
[09:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:09] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, i don't understand what your asking
[09:09] <Sputnik_NL> LinuxJones: I'll take a look
[09:09] <paradizelost> hastesaver: a minor modification to /etc/sudoers fixes that... :D
[09:09] <hastesaver> paradizelost, even the GUI apps?
[09:09] <ubuntu_> Jimmey__, not sure let me look a sec
[09:10] <Cerveza> what is the apt-get package for x11 development?
[09:10] <LinuxJones> Sputnik_NL: here's a link >> http://www.bastille-linux.org/
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Jimmey__, its in /etc
[09:10] <Sputnik_NL> ubuntu_: I'm just interested in applications/services to make Ubuntu secure, like fedora ans suse claim with SElinux and AppArmor.
[09:10] <nickrud> Cerveza, x-window-system-dev gets you everything, including the kitchen sink
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Sputnik_NL, i don't know Im not really into security
[09:10] <paradizelost> hastesaver: w/ that modification, nothing that is sudo-ish will ask for a password.
[09:10] <tonygeorge> nickrud: i have pasted successfully :-) please check this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13925
[09:10] <ferronica> j/ #windows
[09:10] <paradizelost> pm me if you want to know more.
[09:11] <Sputnik_NL> ubuntu_: Thanks though :)
[09:11] <ferronica> j\ #windows
[09:11] <Sputnik_NL> LinuxJones: Thanks for the link, looks interesting.
[09:11] <Cerveza> thanks nickrud
[09:12] <nickrud> tonygeorge, do you have xserver-xorg-driver-mga installed?
[09:12] <calamari> hi
[09:12] <Jimmey__> ubuntu_, thank you
[09:12] <paradizelost> any one know if there's a reason that ubuntu doesn't use superadduser by default?
[09:13] <paradizelost> let you specify groups when you create the user
[09:13] <tonygeorge> nickrud: how can i check? i know that my card is a matrox card.
[09:13] <calamari> my only video choice seems to be 60Hz, how do I tell it I want better choices?
[09:13] <Blue89> I di what you said, it ran for a few seconds at full speed, then the whole computer locked up
[09:13] <nickrud> tonygeorge, the easy way to see is to type apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-driver-mga  , and it will tell you which version you have installed under Installed:
[09:13] <Jimmey__> calamari, you've got to write the choice you want to xorg.conf, in /etc/X11
[09:14] <ubuntu_> _jason, dell told me i have integrated intel video but lscpi shows ati?
[09:15] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: laptop or desktop?
[09:15] <calamari> Jimmey__: okay I'm editing that file, but I'm not sure what to change
[09:15] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, laptop
[09:15] <Hso> question, is there a way to clear history/cookies/etc in Firefox on the ubuntu Livecd? I cannot see that option in the Tools menu :(
[09:15] <lufis> How can i get my ntfs partition to show up on my desktop? it's already mounted and everything
[09:15] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: what did you ask for when you bought it?
[09:15] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes i have it. version 6.8.2-77.1
[09:15] <paradizelost> !dell
[09:15] <ubotu> dell is, like, totally, Check http://support.dell.com for hardware issues
[09:15] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, i didn't buy it
[09:15] <paradizelost> if you go there, and type in the service tag, it'll tell you what the original configuration was
[09:16] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, i doesn't
[09:16] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, it
[09:16] <Blue89> lspci show this: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[09:16] <_jason> ubuntu_: what's your service tag?
[09:16] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: you need to get to the area where it lists the waranties.
[09:16] <paradizelost> i know it does
[09:16] <paradizelost> what's the service tag
[09:17] <keNzi> anyone can help me with this - http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zrzutekranu3rr.png
[09:17] <megaman123> need some help here plz :) i found this dvb-driver.tar.bz2 in the /usr/src/modules folder .... how do i install this file ???
[09:17] <calamari> anyone know how to enable other choices besides 60Hz?
[09:17] <keNzi> there are 3 warnings
[09:17] <paradizelost> calamari: it's a driver issue
[09:18] <Karhuton> How can I start expert installation mode in Dapper b2?
[09:18] <calamari> !nvidia
[09:18] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:19] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: what's the service tag on the bottom of the laptop, i'll tell you what it has for a video card
[09:20] <nickrud> tonygeorge, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end
[09:20] <dougie_> hi guys - I'm trying to get a microtouch usb touchscreen working per the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158666 but I don't have a /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:20] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: pm me if you want
[09:20] <dougie_> does anyone have any pointers on that?
[09:20] <dougie_> (the touchscreen does respond - just not calibrated correctly)
[09:21] <megaman123> anyone could help me out install this dirver.tar.bz2 package ??
[09:21] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes. im still here. waiting for you.
[09:21] <nickrud> tonygeorge, look up :)
[09:21] <_jason> ubuntu_: I see what you are saying, they don't actually list a card, that probably means it was integrated then or someone messed up
[09:21] <nickrud> tonygeorge,  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end
[09:22] <ubuntu_> _jason, well dell said integrated in this chat thingie
[09:23] <dougie_> if I plug a device into the USB port should it always show up under a /dev/ttyUSB device?
[09:23] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: but your lspci said ati, which do you believe?
[09:23] <monkee13> bunzip2 dirver.tar.bz2  then tar -xvf dirver.tar
[09:23] <paradizelost> as i said, i'll look it up for you if you want
[09:23] <paradizelost> you have to know what you have to get it working right
[09:23] <ubuntu_> paradizelost, yeah i msgd u
[09:23] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes. you wanted to know which version of xserver-xorg-driver-mga is installed on my pc. here it is :
[09:24] <tonygeorge> nickrud: version 6.8.2-77.1
[09:24] <megaman123> ok...another question... have this makefile file ... how do i build it ?
[09:24] <monkee13> ./configure && make && make install
[09:24] <rest> hi ist there a backup-tool  for the hole harddisk ?
[09:24] <nickrud> tonygeorge, I saw that. Your exact problem is shown at that link I gave you, and a potential fix is there as well
[09:24] <paradizelost> ubuntu_: i'm not seeing it
[09:24] <nickrud> tonygeorge, I don't have a matrox, so I can't actually test it :)
[09:25] <tonygeorge> nickrud: would you please give me that link again, i cannot see your message with a link other than that pastebin link. sorry.
[09:26] <zenlunatic> paradizelost, now?
[09:26] <nickrud> tonygeorge,  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-mga/+bug/43793 . Someone posted a hack fix at the end
[09:26] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok i will try this. Thank you :-)
[09:27] <calamari> paradizelost: okay, I installed the nivida drivers and got the logo, but 60Hz is still the only choice that gnome gives to me.. what next?
[09:27] <nickrud> tonygeorge, those files that you're replacing will be automatically updated with the next xorg release, you might want to keep that file from matrox around
[09:28] <dougie_> hi guys - in terms of referencing a USB device - do they always appear as /dev/ttyXXX?
[09:28] <tonygeorge> nickrud: still writting down the long url. :) dont know how to copy and paste, no X.
[09:28] <monkee13> anyone know how to link up kOrginizer to google calander gmail?
[09:28] <robertl> dougie, depends on the USB device.
[09:29] <nickrud> tonygeorge, install gpm, it gives you a cut & paste mouse on the console
[09:29] <Jimmey__> Hello
[09:29] <robertl> and dougie, tty usually ref's a terminal.
[09:30] <dougie_> robertl: this is a touchscreen - i'm trying to calibrate it (ubuntu detects it (it responds)) but can't work out how to reference it for xorg.conf
[09:30] <dougie_> robertl: so USB wouldn't be ttyUSB0?
[09:30] <jmccc> need help diagnosing a boot hang, looks like kernel upgrade no longer recognizes SATA boot drive initrd
[09:30] <Jimmey__> Hello. I'm in non-graphical mode now, and I'm trying to install gnome/X11...I've got them installed, but when I try and "startx"
[09:30] <paradizelost> calamari: is there a reason you want higher than 60hz?
[09:30] <Jimmey__> It says something about the fonts.
[09:30] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok i will try, that. it will be very helpful.
[09:30] <robertl> seing as how it's a touch screen I don't rightly know dougie.
[09:30] <nickrud> calamari, next you need to add HorizSync & VertRefresh for your monitor in the Monitor Section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:31] <calamari> paradizelost: yes, 60hz really hurts my eyes.. I need 85 or higher
[09:31] <dougie_> robertl: cool - thanks anyway mate
[09:31] <robertl> whats lsusb spit out at you?
[09:31] <dougie_> robertl: this was the guide i was following: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158666
[09:31] <Jimmey__> Is there a fonts pack that I can download?
[09:31] <tonygeorge> nickrud: sorry i cannot view that website because links showed an error that it doesn't support SSL.
[09:31] <dougie_> robertl: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0596:0001 MicroTouch Systems, Inc. Touchscreen
[09:31] <calamari> nickrud: ahh, that's it.. I guess it overwrote my old defaults.. thanks!
[09:31] <nickrud> tonygeorge, try lynx or elinks
[09:31] <jmccc> does anyone know if 2.6.15-21 or -22 have problems with SATA?  I can no longer boot
[09:32] <tonygeorge> nickrud: ok
[09:33] <calamari> brb
[09:33] <robertl> dougie, I fired up a sidebar so we aren't churning here.
[09:33] <gnomefreak> jmccc: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:33] <jmccc> gnomefreak: thanks
[09:33] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:33] <YoussefAssad> what's #ubuntu+1? /me goes to find out
[09:34] <dougie_> robertl: sorry mate - i'm a noob - how do I join the sidebar?
[09:34] <Olde> will sudo   install work for Debian Pkg in Ubuntu ?
[09:34] <megaman123> ladies and gentlemen...how do i install this driver file...is that a very hard question :)) i have this dvb-driver.tar.bz2 in the usr/src/modules folder... i want to install this file ...thank u anyone for helping out :))
[09:34] <robertl> dougie, should be a tab if you are using xchat... if not thats cool.
[09:34] <dougie_> i am - but don't see it
[09:34] <robertl> id that mutouch driver loaded on your box?
[09:34] <dougie_> I have an underscore after my nick
[09:35] <robertl> ooops. my bad.
[09:35] <robertl> dougie_
[09:35] <robertl> like so?
[09:35] <nickrud> megaman123, start by cd /usr/src && sudo tar xf  dvb-driver.tar.bz2  and read README & INSTALL
[09:35] <dougie_> yah!  :)
[09:35] <robertl> cool.
[09:35] <Jimmey__> How can I copy a directory?
[09:35] <LinuxJones> Olde: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[09:35] <nny> ok so close
[09:35] <Olde> yes
[09:35] <nny> i have my interface working with wireless ipw3945
[09:35] <paradizelost> jimMmy_: cp -Rfv /source/directory /destination/direcotry
[09:36] <nny> can't seem to get it to connect to my AP
[09:36] <robertl> so dougie_, is that driver on your box?
[09:36] <freemanen> my firefox crash then i am trying to go to another page other than the startpage what could be the problem?
[09:36] <Jimmey__> Thankyou
[09:36] <steveire> I have a creative zen plugged into my laptop. Any idea where in devices there is a reference to it?
[09:36] <nny> iwconfig eth1 essid belkin54g mode Ad-Hoc sound right?
[09:36] <robertl> lsmod |grep mutouch
[09:36] <steveire> I have kzenexplorer, but it doesn't let me browse the drivew
[09:36] <dougie_> k
[09:36] <calamari> nickrud: thanks, that fixed the 60hz problem
[09:36] <solene> ola
[09:37] <Falluccer> hey
[09:37] <Olde> bbl
[09:37] <nickrud> calamari, not a hard stretch ;)
[09:37] <paradizelost> nickrud: calamari, just wondering what was the fix for future reference?
[09:37] <dougie_> robertl: not mutouch - but i do have mtouchusb
[09:37] <Falluccer> hybrid: I reburned it and it worked
[09:37] <robertl> hmmm.
[09:37] <dougie_> mtouchusb               5888  0
[09:37] <dougie_> usbcore               104188  3 mtouchusb,uhci_hcd
[09:37] <hybrid> Falluccer: YAY!
[09:37] <nickrud> paradizelost, no useful monitor def in xorg.conf & ddcprobe didn't work for debconf
[09:38] <megaman123> nickrud: it extarcted 3 folders and 1 "Makefile" file, but no read me files
[09:38] <nickrud> or whatever the debconf does
[09:38] <calamari> paradizelost: dpkg-reconfigure says that it will use monitor defaults (and I assumed it used the old values in xorg.conf), but it doesn't.. it changes the values to its own defaults which enforces 60hz.. so I had to copy the horiz/vert lines out of my old xorg.conf to the new one
[09:39] <paradizelost> ahhh.  k
[09:39] <nickrud> megaman123, I'd look to the website you got it from for a howto.
[09:39] <basti__> Hello
[09:39] <Jimmey__> I can't get X to work! It says something like: "Could not load default font: 'Fixed'"
[09:39] <Jimmey__> What's the problem?
[09:39] <megaman123> i didn't get it from anywhere ... i found it there
[09:39] <carl> Hey guys, I'm having a problem with my SATA drive... I just bought one and plugged it in, but how do I mount it?
[09:39] <basti__> where to find the sources installed via cvs?
[09:39] <megaman123> i guess it was installed with the system
[09:40] <calamari> Jimmey__: most likely there is another error
[09:40] <iNiku> Jimmey__: your xfont packages are probably broken somehow, I remember someone else having that problem as well
[09:40] <Jimmey__> calamari, there's several, but they all seemed to be regarding fonts
[09:40] <iNiku> X will die if the 'fixed' font is not available
[09:40] <paradizelost> !mount
[09:40] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:40] <robertl> dougie_ is xserver-xorg-input-mutouch installed?  sudo aptitude search server-xorg-input-mutouch
[09:40] <Jimmey__> I've copied my X11 directory from a working dapper install partition
[09:40] <paradizelost> Jimmey__: why are you trying to use Xorg 7 configs w/ xorg 6.x?
[09:41] <dougie_> robertl: yes - i   xserver-xorg-input-mutouch      - X.Org X server -- muTouch input driver
[09:41] <Jimmey__> I'm not - I did a server install of Dapper
[09:41] <robertl> dougie_, cool.
[09:41] <mart> can anyone tell me how to run mysql on breezy?  installing it gives a shed-load of errors.
[09:41] <Falluccer> how do I install drivers for my USB internet adapter?
[09:41] <megaman123> what are Kconfig files?
[09:41] <nickrud> megaman123, weird. That's not a default thing. Did you install dvb-driver-source for some reason?
[09:41] <iNiku> Jimmey__: try reinstalling xfonts-base, xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-100dpi
[09:42] <Jimmey__> Okay
[09:42] <carl> Anyone? shouldn't it be HDBx? but it's not... there isn't even any hdb in /dev/
[09:42] <megaman123> i want to get my dvb card to run..its a nexus-s card
[09:42] <_r_a_b_> is there  a ubuntu server channel?
[09:42] <paradizelost> carl: SATA is /dev/sd
[09:42] <Skwid_> ahum
[09:42] <Skwid_> is there a command to rename files in a folder
[09:42] <iNiku> Jimmey__: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi
[09:42] <Skwid_> (add a prefix ??)
[09:42] <paradizelost> SATA is always recognized as a SCSI device
[09:42] <Falluccer> does anyone know how I can install my netgear usb adapter drivers
[09:42] <Falluccer> all the drivers on the CD are for windows
[09:43] <robertl> dougie_, try using the mutouchusb as an entry in xorg. it comes up in the lsmod so I believe thats what needs to be called <hunch disclaimer> =)
[09:43] <paradizelost> Falluccer: could use ndiswrapper
[09:43] <paradizelost> !ndiswrapper
[09:43] <carl> paradizelost: so what should the device be called then?
[09:43] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:43] <gringo> hi guys. anyone knows a desklet-like app for gmail and google calendar?
[09:43] <paradizelost> carl: /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[09:43] <paradizelost> something like that
[09:43] <_r_a_b_> is there  a ubuntu server channel?
[09:43] <paradizelost> how many other SATA drives do you have in the system
[09:43] <nickrud> megaman123, I don't know much about video recorders on computers, but from what I see your drivers are already present in the ubuntu kernel.
[09:44] <Skwid_> _r_a_b_: #ubuntu-server ?
[09:44] <megaman123> how can i find out...when i try to run any prog it gives me an error!!!
[09:45] <eduardo> Hi folks. I have a problem with Ubuntu Dapper Beta. I installed it in my Satellite Notebook and now it no off. Anybody know something?
[09:45] <Skwid_> anyone ?
[09:45] <steveire> Any ideas how I can see what's plugged into my laptop usb? I had a look around /dev, but I don't know what I'm looking for
[09:45] <dougie_> robertl: ok - will do - thanks again for that mate!!
[09:45] <Fuzzy76> Could anyone tell me how to get a permanent userlist in the x-chat-gnome client shipped with dapper?
[09:45] <paradizelost> eduardo: dapper stuff is #ubuntu+1
[09:45] <sklav> hi guys
[09:45] <paradizelost> Fuzzy76: use #ubuntu+1
[09:45] <Fuzzy76> thanks, paradizelost
[09:46] <nickrud> megaman123, this may be overkill, but http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php might help
[09:46] <Skwid_> is there a command to rename files in a folder (add a prefix)
[09:46] <megaman123> will look at it ...thanks :)
[09:46] <nickrud> megaman123, I vouch for nothing there :)
[09:47] <_jason> Skwid_: rename, or a for loop involving mv
[09:47] <skk> Skwid_: for i in *; do mv $i prefix_$i;done
[09:47] <Skwid_> skk: thanks
[09:47] <megaman123> :)) ...this is the guide that im using :) and i can't get past the first part where it tries to scan the channels :)))
[09:48] <nickrud> megaman123, did you do the link for the old card, http://www.parker1.co.uk/mythtv_novafw.php
[09:48] <robertl> dougie_, hope it helps some... seems like a good howto, just a little different.
[09:48] <robertl> from what you are looking at.
[09:49] <megaman123> no .. i'll check that now
[09:49] <Skwid_> skk: worked perfectly, thx :)
[09:49] <nickrud> megaman123, you might want to look in /usr/share/doc/dvb-utils/examples/scan/dvb-t for a more appropriate place to scan, as well
[09:49] <steveire> If I run an application in the terminal, is it supposed to tell me what the application is doing, or is there some other way I can find out?
[09:50] <skk> Skwid_: Great :)
[09:50] <robertl> steveire, depends on the app.
[09:51] <megaman123> i tried the scan command, but the problem is with opening the frontend of the device
[09:52] <basti__> When I try to install banshee from CMS, I
[09:52] <basti__> When I try to install banshee from CVS, I get the following error ==> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13928
[09:53] <basti__> sorry, the first was a fault
[09:53] <basti__> :)
[09:53] <nickrud> megaman123, since I don't have one to play with here, I think I'm about to exceed my level of competency on this one. You might get some more knowledgeable help on #mythtv
[09:53] <paradizelost> ubotu: tell jhenn about easyubuntu
[09:53] <JDahl> is there a problem with latest Gnome packages in Dapper? I don't get any menus or taskbars when in Gnome sessions - just the background
[09:53] <kbrooks> paradizelost: :-)
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> JDahl,  sounds like the gnome settings or somthing got trashed.
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> JDahl,  check and see if with a new user the stuff works.. (or rename/move your .gnome* dirs)
[09:54] <szoller> no idea?
[09:54] <JDahl> Dr_Willis, I tried removing .gnome*, but that didn't help - creating a new user is a good idea, though
[09:54] <tonygeorge> nickrud: yes that solved my problem. Thank you very much :-)
[09:54] <nickrud> tonygeorge, heh. swing a cat long enough, you're bound to hit something :)
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> JDahl,  ya - it may be a .gconf* or some other dir as well
[09:55] <szoller> :(
[09:55] <megaman123> thanks :)
[09:55] <tonygeorge> nickrud: :-)
[09:57] <Abountu> years ago I remember I used to use a program called qview to browse photos on my disk
[09:57] <nickrud> megaman123, and by the way, if you look for more help go to #mythtv-users ;)
[09:57] <Abountu> is there a similar application to qview in ubuntu?
[09:57] <nickrud> Abountu, gthumb
[09:58] <Abountu> nickrud, thank you
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> heh - ive even used wine and 'irfanview' :P
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> depends on your viewing needs.. thers a great many image viewers out now
[09:58] <Abountu> nickrud: do you know if I can make it the defaut app to open photos? (jpg, png, bmp, gif...)
[09:58] <nickrud> Abountu, uh, I think I got that one wrong, a hex editor? ghex
[09:59] <Abountu> ah no no
[09:59] <Abountu> gthumb looks fine
[09:59] <nickrud> Abountu, right click each file type, choose properties, and set it with the 'open with' tab
[09:59] <nickrud> Abountu, you need to do it for each type
[09:59] <AlmtyBob> I want to catalog all my back up DVD-Rs, is there some way to make a script so when I insert a disc into my drive it will automatically do something like "ls /mount/cdrom > ~/volumelabel.txt"?
[09:59] <Falluccer> when using ndiswrapper, which utilities should I download to put on my computer running the wireless usb adapter
[10:00] <paradizelost> !ndiswrapper
[10:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> AlmtyBob,  ya could proberly disable the auto-mounting stuff and make a script to do it. you may have to manually run the script with each dvd insertion however.
[10:01] <delmar> Anyone here used or using Azureus? I'm running it on ubuntu 5.10 and it's not working properly. Files just wont start, but the same torrents start up almost immediatly wen I boot back to windows.  I've opened the port and forwarded it from the firewall, and set that port up on both linux and windows versions but the linux version just wont start the torrents downloading.  Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
[10:01] <Abountu> nickrud: can you tell me for example for one type, and I'll try to figure out for the others...
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> you sure your ip you are port forwarding/opening ae the same under both windows/linux?
[10:02] <Abountu> nickrud, can I pm you?
[10:02] <AlmtyBob> Dr_Willis: I was trying to find a way to do it so it'll automatically run the script run it's mounted
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> azureus uses that upnp stuff on my router. :P i dident have to mess witht he ports.
[10:02] <delmar> Dr_Willis, sure.. I've checked that, and the Test works on both.
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> AlmtyBob,  that will be much harder to do. SOme days it pays to just 'do it all'
[10:02] <nickrud> Abountu, right click a jpeg. At the bottom of that menu, there's an Item Properties. Select that. In the dialog that pops up, there's a tab called 'Open With'. Select the white circle next to gthumb, and close
[10:03] <AlmtyBob> doh
[10:04] <delmar> Dr_Willis, yep. its nice when that happens.   The Azureus test comes back OK on both.  Its the same IP being used on either windows or Linux, and the port is the same on the firewall pointing to that IP etc... that part is setup OK.
[10:04] <Abountu> nickrud: it's refusing to move ... does it have to do with me not root?
[10:04] <delmar> I have a feeling that it might be an issue with the JRE/Java version that is installed on here
[10:04] <robertl> delmar, what does lsof -i :6881 return (with azereus running)?
[10:04] <nickrud> Abountu, no, this should be for yourself. And, you must click the circle, not just the name of the app. Frustrating
[10:05] <victor__> hi all. I got a doubt. Does Kopete use tabs instead of separated windows?
[10:05] <victor__> like gaim does
[10:05] <ajo> hi hv a prob in ma mplayer, even while playing wmv files in fullscreen it plays only in a small window..
[10:05] <ajo> but the same file plays fine in xfmedia
[10:05] <hastesaver> victor__, gaim also uses tabs
[10:05] <delmar> robertl, that isnt the port im using... i don't need to use that port specifically, i can use any port as long as I tell Azureus what port it is I have open anf forwarded.
[10:06] <delmar> robertj, just a sec. ill fire it up and start a test torrent and see
[10:06] <nickrud> ajamuk, try mplayer -vo xv <filename> , does that go full screen properly?
[10:06] <robertl> delmar, ok. is it listening on the port you want it to? =)
[10:06] <nickrud> ajo, sorry, that just above was for you
[10:06] <victor__> hastesaver, yeah, that's what i said (or what i've tried lol)
[10:06] <Abountu> nickrud.. still not working :-( .. I clicked all over the place!
[10:06] <ajo> nickrud, thankx..
[10:06] <delmar> robertj, looking.... it must be since it's in-built Test returns an OK result
[10:06] <victor__> the problem is that gaim has gone crazy, and it only writes what i type when it wants
[10:07] <nickrud> Abountu, I just did it here ...
[10:08] <hastesaver> victor__, oh, sorry. Yes, from what I've heard, Kopete uses tabs too.
[10:08] <Jimmey__> I'm looking for a light-weight web browse.
[10:08] <nickrud> ajo, if that works properly, there's a complete config at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[10:08] <Zane42> Looking for help with nzb files in ubuntu.
[10:08] <delmar> robertj, hrm. so the test works fine, but when i do what u say...while its running... i get no result
[10:08] <delmar> robertj, using the port i have set not 6881 of course...
[10:08] <victor__> hastesaver, thanks! :D
[10:09] <Zane42> I downloaded nzbperl.pl But I'm not limitted to using that one.  Any that would work I would be happy with.
[10:09] <ajo> ok..
[10:09] <Abountu> nickrud, well it're really not working... it there a config file where this gets written to, so I can add it there manually?!
[10:09] <delmar> robertj, it never downloads any traffic... not a single bit... but occasionally it changes from red, to blue, then to red.. and occasionally from red to green, then back to red...all the while.. never downloading a thing
[10:10] <Jowi> Jimmey__: (super lightweight terminal) links, elinks, lynx. (terminal with graphics) w3m. (fast gui but not feature rich) dillo, w3c. (others) opera, firefox, konqueror, epiphany-browser
[10:10] <Jimmey__> Thankyou
[10:10] <Jimmey__> Jowi, what about file browsers? Like nautilus?
[10:11] <idefix> what is the file system of a DVDrom?
[10:11] <Jowi> Jimmey__: Rox-filer is king. Thunar is ok as well
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> idefix,  UDF often.. or ISO
[10:11] <Jimmey__> Thankyou
[10:12] <nickrud> Abountu,  I think it's in ~/.local/share/applications
[10:12] <high-freq> can someone help me with a pcmcia card...i have an older one...but dmesg says  prism_config() failed
[10:12] <high-freq> and also loads up orinoco as well.
[10:13] <Abountu> nickrud: ok let me check this ... thanks
[10:13] <robertl> delmar, i just tried it here with my box, and with azureus running I am showing 4 connections using lsof. do you use a firewall on the box?
[10:13] <nickrud> Abountu, a stab in the dark would be changing the window theme to default, it's very easy to see which dot has the circle ...
[10:14] <Abountu> nickrud: change the window them to default? how?
[10:14] <delmar> robertj, iptables -L reports Accept on all.. no firewall is in place
[10:15] <idefix> how can you change the DVD-code of your DVD-player?
[10:15] <nickrud> Abountu, system->preferences->theme, but that's just a stab in the dark. I really think you're missing the tiny click point
[10:15] <robertl> delmar, another avenue to check is to use strace -c [path/to/azureus]  fire up a torrent, let it run and then kill it (the app). check there for various errors.
[10:16] <nickrud> idefix, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has a section on changing the region code
[10:16] <delmar> robertj, lets check some settings a moment... ive setup 6881 on the router as well, just to rule that out as well
[10:16] <Zane42> is anyone here familiar with using nget, nzbget, or nzbperl?  I've tried all three without any success.
[10:16] <delmar> robertj, under connection... i have all things ticked
[10:17] <delmar> robertj, nothing for proxy options
[10:17] <delmar> robertj, advanced network, what do you have setup in there?
[10:18] <robertl> delmar, strace -o [file-name]  azureus   fire up a torrent, let it run a bit... kill the app and comb for interesting things like maybe permissions are off on some lib it needs maybe...
[10:18] <pvd2000> Hoe can you get .mkv files to play subtitles with gxine or mplayer?
[10:19] <delmar> robertj, ok i set 6881 restarted Azureus and now i see two lines... java    28275 delmar   13u  IPv4  63628       TCP *:6881 (LISTEN)
[10:19] <robertl> delmar... one sec i am checking my connection settings.
[10:19] <delmar> robertj, the second line is UDP and doesn't have (LISTEN)
[10:19] <robertl> delmar... oooooooh.
[10:19] <voraistos> hey people, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the tool to configure mouse doesnt work for my (synapticS) touchpad. how can i change the config files to make it less sensitive ?
[10:19] <delmar> robertj, still no joy with the torrent however
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> voraistos,  edit the xorg.conf by hand
[10:19] <delmar> robertj, but lets gib it a minute
[10:20] <robertl> delmar, hm, might need to have that UDP listening... checking.
[10:20] <Abountu> nickrud: does editing gthumb-usercreated.desktop, and adding in the MimeType=image/jpeg;image/jpg;image/gif ... work? do you thing that would work?
[10:20] <nickrud> Abountu, it might. You could always delete it if it doesn't :)
[10:20] <voraistos> Dr_willis: ok, ill try that. will i have to restart xserver to see it working ?
[10:20] <untung> hi can win client log into ubuntu server?
[10:20] <delmar> robertj, its really frustrating when u have a few hours worth of downloads queued under windows and can't boot back to linux to play with stuff :P
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> voraistos,  any changes to the xorg.conf require a total restart of X. NOT just a logout/backin to GDM
[10:21] <delmar> but since running Everquest under Cedega is such a pig, I need to be in windows half the time anyway
[10:21] <robertl> delmar, sounds like hell! hey check this out. http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_ports_like_6881_are_no_good_choice
[10:21] <Abountu> nickrud:changing to another theme didn't help
[10:21] <Abountu> it's definetly locked
[10:22] <voraistos> Dr_Willis: okok. i wasnt sure, since with the gnome tool i dont need an x restart
[10:22] <robertl> delmar, I installed azureus local to my home directory as well.
[10:22] <delmar> robertj, exactly. thats why i didnt wanna use it... ISP's and people that are anoyed at file sharing apps block 6881
[10:22] <pvd2000> how can you get .mkv files to play in gxine? it already plays mkv files just doesn't show subtitles.
[10:22] <delmar> robertj, latest version?
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> voraistos,  not sure what that gnome tool did. :P but i doubt if it altered the xorg.conf.
[10:22] <delmar> robertj, what version of ubuntu are u using?
[10:23] <robertl> I just call it by striking alt-f2, /home/robertl/azureus/azureus
[10:23] <delmar> robertj, im gonna switch the port back, restart Azureus and check for the listen again
[10:23] <robertl> still breezy.
[10:23] <nickrud> Abountu, that is very strange. Try changing another mime type, like txt. See if you can alter it. If it's only gthumb (which works here) you may have stumbled over a bug
[10:23] <pauldaoust> okay, here's a question for you RAID gurus: I have two 20 GB discs and a 40 GB disc. Is it possible to use the md software RAID driver to get a nested RAID 1+0 thingy going on?
[10:23] <voraistos> Dr_willis: system->preferences->mouse . would be cool if they fixed that on dapper
[10:23] <robertl> delmar. ok.
[10:23] <pauldaoust> specifically, I'm looking to stripe the two smaller discs and then mirror them onto the larger disc.
[10:24] <robertl> delmar, if it doesn't work try the strace... is it installed system wide? installed as root as a deb or make install?
[10:24] <pauldaoust> wait, I'm bass-ackwards. I need a RAID 0+1 setup
[10:25] <Abountu> nickrud: let me check (if so that would be the second bug today, not bad for my first day on ubuntu)
[10:25] <Skwid_> anyone got a good fstab link ?
[10:25] <robertl> /etc/fstab =)
[10:26] <delmar> robertj, ok same as before with 6881 only the new port.. when i checked before.. i transposed two numbers hence why i couldnt find the port listening :P
[10:26] <Skwid_> robertj: a help link, with all the options and stuff
[10:26] <delmar> robertj, so im getting the same results.. tcp listen.. udp not
[10:26] <Calgar__> anyone have any ideas why nslookup is resolving the ubuntu archives as <IP_ADDRESS>? i think its my router, but i have no idea what to do about it, anyone got any ideas please?
[10:26] <delmar> robertj, is that what u get?
[10:26] <pauldaoust> Abountu: the one I always use is 'man fstab'... I find it has most of the info I need.
[10:26] <robertl> delmar, checking...
[10:27] <Abountu> pauldaoust: it's not me who asked about fstab, thx anyway ;-)
[10:27] <Skwid_> pauldaoust: ok thx
[10:27] <pauldaoust> Abountu: oop, sorry :S
[10:28] <nickrud> don't we all love the tab-completion demon :)
[10:28] <pauldaoust> nickrud: naw, can't blame it on tab-completion; I just wasn't concentrating :)
[10:28] <Trip348> Hi, what is the ext3 file system? Can ubuntu be installed on Fat32 or does it have to be ext3?
[10:28] <paganini> Hi guys
[10:29] <paganini> I have a kind of weire network interface question
[10:29] <robertl> delmar, both TCP and UDP...high port ranges... anyway is the app installed sys wide?
[10:29] <Abountu> Trip348: I dont' think ubuntu will run easily on FAT
[10:29] <nickrud> Trip348, absolutely not the fat32, it doesn't handle file permissions.
[10:29] <paganini> My ubuntu box is on a windows network, so I have samba installed to access their shared folders and to share folders with them
[10:29] <Trip348> okay
[10:29] <pauldaoust> Trip348: I guess Ubuntu could conceivably be installed on FAT32, but it'd be a nightmare if it were. ext3 is just ext2 (the standard Linux filesystem) with journalling, which helps Linux figure out what went wrong in the event of a file write error.
[10:29] <delmar> robertj, yeah i stuck it in /usr/share/azureus
[10:29] <Trip348> so the linux partition can't be read by windows
[10:30] <delmar> robertj, so you have LISTEN on both tcp and udp?
[10:30] <Abountu> Trip348: if you want to try ubuntu before installing it, try the live cd
[10:30] <paganini> When I go to places -> network servers to use the built-in network browser, sometimes (not always) I get a box that says "you must log in to access <my internal IP address> on MSHOME."
[10:30] <nickrud> Trip348, sure it can, there's a program called e2explore, and there's also an installable filesystem driver for ext3 on windows
[10:30] <paganini> And it asks for my password
[10:30] <delmar> robertl, i get lots of stuff like this in the logs... [8:28:55.760]  {peer} Peer connection closed: failed to establish outgoing connection: select registration: channel is closed;   etc etc
[10:30] <pauldaoust> Trip348: ext2 and ext3 can, with a lovely Windows filesystem driver that works great (although it completely ignores access permissions, so any Windows user can read/modify any file on the Linux partition)
[10:30] <paganini> No matter what I type there, it keeps coming back and won't let me continue
[10:30] <Trip348> great
[10:30] <pauldaoust> Trip348: forget where you can get the driver though; one sec
[10:31] <levander> What the hell is the deal with all the xorg packages getting updates in breezy?
[10:31] <robertl> delmar, for kicks try installing it in your home dir as your plain old user self and then just call it from the cli with
[10:31] <paganini> But, if I click cancel, it pops up the dialogue that asks for hte password to unlock my keyring. When I thpe that in, everything is fine.
[10:31] <delmar> pauldaoust, yeah i had that driver.. there is evena 64bit one around
[10:31] <levander> I've never seen so many packages getting updates
[10:31] <paganini> soop__, what is that "you must log in" box, where does it come from, and why does it only appear SOMETIMES?
[10:31] <robertl> delmar, /home/delmar/azureus/azureus
[10:31] <robertl> delmar, /home/delmar/azureus/azureus &
[10:31] <Trip348> how much space do I need for the ubuntu install, I have about 7GB cleared in the end of my disk.
[10:31] <JDahl> I have some odd Gnome problems in Dapper: Gnome sessions never starts the taskbar or show any menus. I tried the obvious things such as wiping config files, but nothing helps.   /var/log/gdm complains about wacom, which I don't use and never installed
[10:31] <pauldaoust> Trip348: http://www.fs-driver.org/ -- I think that's the one I had success with
[10:31] <robertl> the & will shove it in the background.
[10:31] <levander> Trip348: 7GB is plenty, make sure to make a swap partition
[10:31] <Trip348> pauldaoust: thank you
[10:31] <delmar> robertj, k
[10:32] <nickrud> Trip348, that's plenty to check out ubuntu, you only really need about 2 GB
[10:32] <pauldaoust> Trip348: no prob!
[10:32] <Trip348> okay
[10:32] <robertl> delmar, not using a deb right?
[10:32] <Abountu> nickrud: it's not working for any file
[10:32] <robertl> delmar, tar.gz?
[10:32] <pauldaoust> so, hozzaboutit? anyone had experience with software RAID 0+1 before?
[10:32] <levander> Nobody knows why every single xorg package just got an update in breezy?  I hate having to update X cause it scares me something's going to go wrong and I'll have to reconfigure X.
[10:32] <Skwid_> in my fstab i have, iocharset=utf8
[10:33] <Skwid_> what would i need for iso ?
[10:33] <delmar> robertj, yeah was the .tar.gz from SF
[10:33] <sorush20> when dapper comes out i'm not upgrading.. cause my printer will not work.. as i@m loosing my hotplug system. I need the system to upload the firmware to the printer everytime ubunt boots..
[10:33] <Skwid_> ISO-8859-1 ??
[10:33] <needlez> YES!!!
[10:33] <needlez> IT WORKED!!!
[10:33] <robertl> delmar, cool.. me too.
[10:33] <pauldaoust> levander: didn't check the changelog today, myself; haven't ever had to reconfigure Xorg though.
[10:33] <needlez> i love linux..
[10:33] <TheSteveMonkey> what is the "support" lifetime for ubuntu dists for security fixes?
[10:33] <bron> anyone know of a good firefox plugin (for 1.5) to clear the location field?  diggler used to be good for that, but the latest has removed that feature (as far as I can tell)  :(
[10:33] <Snow_Shelter> why is my ld having problems? "/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../libc.so when searching for -lc"
[10:33] <pauldaoust> levander: (at least, not within the Dapper testing cycle)
[10:33] <nickrud> Abountu, then I have no clue, except to reiterate that I was ready to throw away this os until I realized I wasn't clicking the circle
[10:33] <levander> pauldaoust: well, i'm going for it, hate to do it, but...
[10:33] <Snow_Shelter> I'm trying to install wine-0.9.13, and there's no package for x86_64, and it wont compile because of this ld problem
[10:33] <Skwid_> please ? :(
[10:33] <levander> pauldaoust: it's not dapper, it's breezy, must be a security update
[10:34] <Calgar__> anyone have any ideas why nslookup is resolving the ubuntu archives as <IP_ADDRESS>? i think its my router, but i have no idea what to do about it, anyone got any ideas please?
[10:34] <needlez> samuli: are you still around?
[10:34] <robertl> delmar, use the beginner setup.
[10:34] <TheSteveMonkey> Anyone?
[10:34] <Trip348> Thank you guys, I think I'll get started then and give it a try.
[10:34] <popey> TheSteveMonkey: 3 years, 5 for dapper as i understand it
[10:34] <robertl> delmar, I just defaulted everything and it morked.
[10:34] <nickrud> TheSteveMonkey, 18 months from release, except dapper, 5 years
[10:34] <popey> oh
[10:34] <pauldaoust> levander: oh. sorry... uh... using the Ubuntu update manager, you can see the changelog for each package, and it should tell you what it's modifying. Sometimes it even works!
[10:34] <levander> Calgar__: you do 'nslookup archives.ubuntu.com' and get back <IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:34] <delmar> robertj, err. it doesn't ask me for setup.. because it's already setup.. the setup files are in /home/delmar/.azureus
[10:34] <Abountu> nickrud: he he he ... it's not that desperate I can always do an "open with"
[10:35] <robertl> delmar, heh.
[10:35] <delmar> robertj, ill blow it away and start again :P
[10:35] <needlez> can anyone here give me a list of programs that are similar to their windows version. do you understand? for instance MSN on windows is aMSN or Gaim on linux (i think) i need a list of stuff like that
[10:35] <needlez> please.
[10:35] <JDahl> it's very strange - indeed there is a "wacom" tablet PC inputdevice in my xorg.conf, but I don't know how or when that got added
[10:35] <pauldaoust> needles: gosh, there are so many. You'd be best off searching http://www.ubuntuforums.org for something like that.
[10:36] <astriskmanish> can any one tel me how to install kde on ubuntu
[10:36] <needlez> get Kubuntu
[10:36] <pauldaoust> needlez: sorry, that last msg was meant for you, but I typed 'needles' instead of 'needlez'
[10:36] <delmar> robertj, did u download or install anything to do with java or just instaled azareus as is... ?
[10:36] <Abountu> new question.... firefox in synaptic (and on the system) is version 1.0.8 and mozilla has released version 1.5.* I guess, is that normal? can I get the new one?
[10:36] <samuli> needlez, yeah.
[10:36] <hastesaver> astriskmanish, get the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:36] <Calgar__> levander: thats what happend before, now i am getting: ** server can't find archives.ubuntu.com: SERVFAIL
[10:36] <popey> needlez: http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/LinuxAdvocacy shows comparisons of windows and linux apps
[10:36] <delmar> robertj, i didn't want to mess up the already installed java stuff so left it alone.
[10:36] <robertl> delmar, i had java installed way before azureus.
[10:36] <JDahl> astriskmanish, if you already have ubuntu installed, you just install kubuntu-desktop. Then there's no need to get kubuntu
[10:36] <needlez> pauldaoust: its ok i understood
[10:37] <pauldaoust> :)
[10:37] <delmar> robertj, oh? did u install it manually or?
[10:37] <samuli> astriskmanish, get either package kde-core, kde or kubuntu-desktop with aptitude (if you want to easily remove it in case you don't like it)
[10:37] <astriskmanish> it gives some error message
[10:37] <TheSteveMonkey> popey why is dapper 5 years
[10:37] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[10:37] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:37] <kbrooks> EasyUbuntu "It's all new!" 3 has been released!
[10:37] <kbrooks> The EasyUbuntu Team is pleased to present EasyUbuntu 3.
[10:37] <kbrooks> EasyUbuntu 3 is the culmination of 6 months of hard work which will bring a tool to the new Ubuntu user. With no prior Linux experiance, this tool will let you install commonly requested tweaks, and a selection of restricted codecs.
[10:37] <kbrooks> There have been a few notable changes in EasyUbuntu 3: Dapper is supported (but EasyUbuntu is still compatible with Breezy), EasyUbuntu 3 is now written in Python, and many bugs have been squashed. Some of the applications that you can install are (depending on architecture) Codecs, Flash, Java and Skype.
[10:37] <kbrooks> You can download, install and run EasyUbuntu 3 with the instructions on the "Get EasyUbuntu" page (at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html), provided that you use this URL: http://www.robotgeek.org/eu/easyubuntu-3.0.tar.gz instead of the old URL.
[10:37] <delmar> robertj, cuz Openoffice needs java etc so i knew it was already installed... and i didnt want to isntall any java stuff manually cuz i dont want OpenOffice to break :P
[10:37] <nickrud> !paste