[00:00] <rich542> Each time after usb-creator finished it ends up with 4.
[00:00] <rich542> Before it has 1
[00:00] <ruser> ok
[00:00] <reedyseth> Hey guys !, does anybody now how to configure properly the display setting when booting?
[00:00] <ruser> I'll try youtube-dl, but it might not work
[00:00] <chelz> rich542: use unetbootin
[00:00] <ruser> I switched to yaydl but that was discontinued too
[00:00] <chelz> ruser: try jdownloader
[00:00] <chelz> ruser: after youtub-edl
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> rich542: then try the other apps I named
[00:01] <rich542> chelz: why is changing the program used to install a boot loader going to fix the partition structure of the usb disk? I don't see the connection.
[00:01] <html_inprogress> Soothsayer,  windows is a pain to in stall,  and i think the Dr_Willis caN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION , which it has to do with the grub , and im limtied on that supject, ,,,, he will be around in a few hours to8
[00:01] <chelz> rich542: oh. right. you should format that usb thing to just fat32.
[00:01] <Soothsayer> zvacet: where should my swap area go?
[00:01] <Cody3290> Its harder to install windows after ubuntu, since oyu have to fix the GRUB loader
[00:01] <chelz> rich542: i forgot unetbootin doesn't do partitioning
[00:01] <Cody3290> its easier to install ubuntu after you install windows
[00:02] <Soothsayer> html_inprogress: windows is really easy to install.. what's a pain about it ?
[00:02] <rich542> chelz: It is fat32 now
[00:02] <chelz> Cody3290: eh after a bit of practice is pretty easy
[00:02] <chelz> rich542: but just one or a few?
[00:02] <Cody3290> True
[00:02] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: I see.. luckily I have windows already installed.
[00:02] <reedyseth> Hey guys !, does anybody now how to configure properly the display setting when booting?
[00:02] <Cody3290> So whats hte problem with burning an ubuntu disc and loading it at startup, Soothsayer?
[00:02] <tecnovirtua> Boa noite
[00:02] <escott> Soothsayer as long as you dont move or resize your windows boot partition things should be ok
[00:02] <Igor_Elez> ruser Or Try MiniTube program, it has a nice GUI and besides that it plays youtube videos in Java insted of Flash it also has a nice option of Downloading videos! :)
[00:03] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: basically, I'm not sure how I should do the setup.. whether to put both the OS's on one hard drive and all data on another or one hard drive for windows and one for ubuntu ?
[00:04] <chelz> reedyseth: depends on your graphics card, but if you mean like having the proper resolution, one way is to put a "vga=" line in your grub config
[00:04] <gartral> Soothsayer: i've done both, it's faster if you split OS/Data.
[00:04] <escott> Soothsayer either will work. The advantage of putting ubuntu on disk 2 is you can put grub on the mbr of disk2 and set disk2 as the boot disk chain loading disk 1
[00:04] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: That's a matter of preference, I think. If you're gonna have all the data on another drive, the partition that the OSes are on doesn't have to be too big, just big enough to carry the OSes and maybe some space to spare
[00:04] <Cody3290> What escott says
[00:04] <Soothsayer> that's three different opinions.. :)
[00:04] <rich542> chelz, I get from testdisk: bad relative sector, bad starting sector, bad ending sector (chs and lba don't match) only one partition must be bootable.
[00:04] <ChronicSyncope> i have a bunch of things running in sysmon that i can't close with killall (rtorrent)
[00:05] <ChronicSyncope> how do i kill them?
[00:05] <chelz> rich542: do you have anything you want to keep on that usb drive?
[00:05] <Soothsayer> gartral: makes sense..
[00:05] <chelz> Soothsayer: you might think about your discs possibly dying. if you have ubuntu and windows on separate drives, then if one drive dies you still have an os
[00:05] <rich542> chelz: no.
[00:05] <escott> Soothsayer, do you want what is easy, what is faster, or what is better backed up
[00:05] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: ye, I could just allocate around 150 gb for bot the OS's
[00:05] <chelz> rich542: are you currently in windows?
[00:05] <ruser> jhow
[00:05] <ruser> hoiw
[00:05] <ruser> how does jdownloader download stuff
[00:05] <rich542> chelz, yes
[00:05] <aroman> hi, I really need to edit my grub.cfg file on Maverick, but I can see that it's read-only, even for root. I guess this is because grub2 doesn't want anyone messing with that file, but I really need to. How can I do what I want to do, or what is the grub2 equivalent? thanks
[00:05] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: 150gb for JUST the OSES? o.O That's... Overkill
[00:05] <Soothsayer> chelz: oh ye... and if I have all my data on one hard drive.. I can afford to lose a lot in the data disc dieing
[00:05] <chelz> ruser: you add links, then they download
[00:06] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: lot of Adobe, Video Editing, IDE's, etc shit on the Windows one :-P
[00:06] <ruser> I see
[00:06] <Soothsayer> already at 98 GB
[00:06] <chelz> aroman: you shouldn't edit grub.cfg, you edit other files then run an update command that creates a grub.cfg
[00:06] <ruser> I like youtube-dl also, only I don't have python for windows
[00:06] <escott> easier ubuntu on disk 2, faster system on disk 1 data on disk 2 or raid stripping, backed up raid1 mirroring
[00:06] <sweb> how can i logout daemon user ?
[00:06] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: Then that's not only the OS. That's the OS + Installed Programs.
[00:06] <aroman> chelz: right, I understand that, but I don't know how to do what I want to do without manually editing the menu entry.
[00:07] <Soothsayer> How about on the smaller Disk I use some space for the OS and the rest of the space for data.. (which is like backups of important stuff from disk 2)
[00:07] <QaDeS> my box gets really slow sometimes, causing even the mouse and keyboard leds to hang. running on 2.6.32-31-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 18:25:51 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:07] <chelz> aroman: so learn! :D
[00:07] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: well, on windows.. we're so used to installing programs in the partition of the OS :-P so don't blame me!
[00:07] <aroman> chelz: I don't think it's possible is what I mean
[00:07] <chelz> aroman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:07] <chelz> aroman: what do you want to do?
[00:08] <aroman> add a rootdelay to the kernel command in a menuentry
[00:08] <Soothsayer> How about on the SMALLER Disk I use some space for the OS and the REST for data too so I can minimize the risks of all data being on one drive incase the data drive crashes.
[00:08] <chelz> aroman: oh totally possible. you add that to either defaultopts or another place, depending on whether or not you want it part of recovery options also
[00:09] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: If you're really worried abotu data loss, you can back up your stuff online
[00:09] <Cody3290> Mediafire is a good free service
[00:09] <QaDeS> top doesn't show any cpu hog, but the system monitor has the dark blue layer right up to the top. any ideas what's causing the lag, or how i can fix it?
[00:09] <ChronicSyncope> i can't seem to kill a process with sudo killall or sudo kill -9
[00:09] <ChronicSyncope> it's using all of my CPU
[00:09] <Soothsayer> Cody3290: online backups are difficult.. i'm on a slow internet :@
[00:09] <ChronicSyncope> it says it's killed but it's still showing up in sysmon, and it's still using all of my cpu
[00:09] <aroman> chelz: What file do I need to edit, then? grub.cfg doesn't seem like its relevant at all
[00:09] <Igor_Elez> Is there a way to install BURG insted of GRUB 2 on Ubuntu 11.04 ? I can't manage to do that the way i did it on Ubuntu 10.10 :/
[00:09] <escott> ChronicSyncope, send it kill -HUP
[00:09] <chelz> aroman: one of those files in /etc/grub.d/
[00:09] <Cody3290> Soothsayer: Oh.
[00:10] <Cody3290> BURG is GRUB backwards, lol.
[00:10] <escott> ChronicSyncope, rather kill -s HUP
[00:10] <Cody3290> JUst making an obvious observation, :3
[00:10] <escott> ChronicSyncope, that will cause data loss for that program
[00:10] <chelz> aroman: there's a list of the default files in /etc/grub.d/ on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[00:11] <ChronicSyncope> escott, ~$ bash: kill: -HUP: invalid signal specification
[00:11] <rich542> chelz: Is there something i can do in testdisk to fix the drive?
[00:11] <Nzaw4> quick question when i update using syntpic package manager, when it updates a enw kernel, and i reboot, it wont load up the gui, and just loads the termial when i load the newst kernel
[00:11] <hoodstar901> cant seem to find this bigmem???????/ doesnt seem to have a directory for these download fro these sourcves?
[00:11] <chelz> rich542: the drive is fine, just have to repartition it.
[00:11] <Nzaw4> ive tried startx, and i think its gnome start,i cant get back into the Gui.. please hellp , im the super noob
[00:12]  * Nzaw4 Super noob girl needs help :(
[00:12] <chelz> rich542: xp, vista or 7?
[00:12] <reedyseth> chelz:  after trying to change my display settings with some program it turned to display nothing but a blank window when loading
[00:12] <rich542> chelz, 7
[00:12] <Soothsayer> gartral, Cody3290, escott : So if keep the OS's in one partition and data in another... in Ubuntu, I'll have to mount the User's directory to the new hard drive?
[00:12] <ChronicSyncope> escott, it didn't stop the process
[00:12] <escott> Soothsayer, you add it to the fstab and it will be mounted automatically (specify it in the install and ubuntu will create the fstab for you)
[00:12] <aroman> chelz: oooooh, I see how this works now
[00:13] <chelz> rich542: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Can-I-repartition-my-hard-disk
[00:13] <escott> ChronicSyncope, kill -s HUP shouldn't be trapable, it is zombied?
[00:13] <AngryBlackGuy> hey quick question, is 7zip not compatible with Linux's zip ?
[00:13] <chelz> rich542: do that but select the usb drive and just make it so there's one big fat32 partition
[00:13] <Nzaw4> quick question when i update using synaptic package manager, when it updates a new kernel, and i reboot, it wont load up the gui, and just loads the terminal when i load the newest kernel. Ive tried typing startx, and gnome, i cant get back into the GUI ? can anyone help me please?
[00:13] <hoodstar901> cghelz what exactly areu tryinhto do?
[00:13] <ChronicSyncope> escott, it's rtorrent
[00:13] <AngryBlackGuy> because i couldnt unzip in ubuntu a zip archive i created in windows 7
[00:13] <reedyseth> chelz: and even when i press crtl+alt+f1 to switch to tty i can't see nothing
[00:14] <Soothsayer> escott: hmm.. so where do packages I install through aptitude, etc go? In the OS partition or the other?
[00:14] <ChronicSyncope> escott, it's opened about 5 times, and one of the processes says uninterruptable. I'm not sure that I know what zombied means
[00:14] <rich542> chelz, I already did that it appears in windows as 1 fat32 primary partition. in testdisk however it shows 4 different type partitions.
[00:14] <sweb> please help me to run 'uniconv' via php
[00:14] <tjiggi_fo> Nzaw4, reboot and choose your old kernel from the grub menu
[00:14] <sweb> :(
[00:14] <escott> Soothsayer, most in /usr (which you could put on its own partition, but its seldom necessary disks are so big now)
[00:15] <escott> ChronicSyncope, uninterruptable means it is running something in the kernel, perhaps it is waiting on a socket operation that could take a few minutes
[00:15] <Nzaw4> tjiggi_fo: i just did... so i cant use the new kernels from the package manager?
[00:15] <chelz> rich542: testdisk is designed to look for deleted stuff, so that might be fine. in windows does it have a free space amount that is about the same as the size of the usb drive?
[00:15] <Zburatorul> i'm having some major IO issues on 10.10 with Gnome. where should i start figuring it out?
[00:15] <Soothsayer> escott: Putting something like /usr in its own partition is something that is done during install time or later?
[00:15] <ChronicSyncope> escott, there are 4 other processes called rtorrent that dont say that, which i cant stop
[00:15] <escott> Soothsayer, yes determine your partitions prior to the install
[00:15] <Igor_Elez> Is there a way to install BURG insted of GRUB 2 on Ubuntu 11.04 ? I can't manage to do that the way it was done in all older versions of Ubuntu :/ ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DO IT?
[00:15] <tjiggi_fo> Nzaw4, to use the new kernel you'll have to sort out your graphics problem
[00:16] <Nzaw4> ahh its a graphics problem
[00:16] <ChronicSyncope> escott, collectively they're running my fast cpu up to 100% :p
[00:16] <Cube``> hey, i have lost my /etc/init.d/mysql. how can i get it back?
[00:16] <rich542> chelz: it shows 14.8 gb for a 16gb device.
[00:16] <Soothsayer> escott: ok. And what file system to pick for the Ubuntu OS + data partitions? Ext4 or NTFS ?
[00:16] <Nzaw4> tjiggi_fo: thanks
[00:17] <Zburatorul> Cube: try  dpkg-reconfigure mysql
[00:17] <matt444> When I do a Ctrl+Alt+F1 the screen only flickers and I never get a login.  Does this mean my display only works with X?
[00:17] <reedyseth> rich542: it is correcto it never shows it size as we define it
[00:17] <tjiggi_fo> Nzaw4, np
[00:17] <escott> Soothsayer, if you want to access the data from both systems use NTFS, do not use NTFS / or /usr or other core unix folders
[00:17] <Cube``> Zburatorul: thanks!
[00:17] <reedyseth> matt444: I have the same problem
[00:17] <escott> ChronicSyncope, hmmm googling for what to do
[00:18] <zvacet> Soothsayer: will windows read data
[00:18] <brewster> hey im having this here problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1394214 but i don't want to rename /usr/local because there are important files in that directory. can anyone help?
[00:18] <ChronicSyncope> escott, i've been doing some googling too. it looks like it might be a kernel bug?
[00:18] <chelz> rich542: close enough. unetbootin will work with that fine
[00:18] <Soothsayer> zvacet: ye, I want just 'one' of the partitions shared between ubuntu and windows 7... and the rest will be exclusive to each of the OS.
[00:18] <zvacet> Soothsayer: ntfs then
[00:19] <triggerhappy> hey
[00:19] <Nzaw4> hrmm with my ubuntu setup, can i do like a nand backup with all my setting and programs backuped, then move that nand backup to an external and reinstall windows 7? and when i want to go back to my ubuntu, restore the nand backup?
[00:19] <Cube``> hey, i have lost my /etc/init.d/mysql. how can i get it back?
[00:19] <escott> ChronicSyncope, doubtful people would notice a bug like that :) most likely these rtorrents are doing something like creating a big file or waiting on a socket that is taking the kernel a long time to return
[00:19] <Soothsayer> escott: ok. Is the mounting of /usr done during the installation or after it? Cause I don't recall a screen during setup that helps u configure all this.. or is the advanced options option where you can pick the drive in the beginning itself?
[00:19] <Soothsayer> zvacet: probably, I will have to mix between the two
[00:20] <Soothsayer> ?
[00:20] <escott> Cube``, recommend you install etckeeper for the future. try forcing a reinstall of mysql
[00:21] <Soothsayer> or how about this -> I create two ext3 partitions - one for the Ubuntu OS + one for the /usr directory. Everything else NTFS ?
[00:21] <reedyseth> #ubuntu-es
[00:21] <escott> Soothsayer, click on the manage my partitions during the install and you cna create and specify the mount points
[00:21] <happyface> why are VNC connections to ubuntu not encrypted by default?
[00:21] <Cube``> escott: whats the package name though? there is no "mysql"
[00:22] <kdgrng> nick
[00:22] <escott> Cube``, mysql-server? use synaptic
[00:22] <phil42> 6.2 quake in indonesia
[00:22] <Cube``> ok
[00:23] <Soothsayer> escott: I see. I believe the /home mount point should be on a data partition?
[00:23] <jord> erUSUL:  Fixed it. I read somewhere that newer network cards have a "digital tuner" (whatever that means) and if you turn the computer off completely and leave for 10 mins it will reset. I did that and now it's working!
[00:23] <Kijutsu> Okay... so I installed ubuntu 10.04 LTS on PPC.. what the heck is this virbr0 ethernet interface I see under ifconfig?
[00:23] <escott> Soothsayer, yes /home on your data drive is normal
[00:24] <hyndra> any one here
[00:24] <hyndra> kubuntu is off
[00:24] <Soothsayer> escott: where do stuff like MySQL database files get stored?
[00:24] <kdgrng> help
[00:24] <Soothsayer> /var/lib/mysql right?
[00:24] <escott> Soothsayer, yes /var
[00:24] <hyndra> i install vmware  qemu or virtualbox  but they dont start
[00:25] <Soothsayer> escott: so then this should also be on another partition?
[00:25] <ChronicSyncope> escott, i think it's a kernel bug, i just restarted.
[00:25] <hyndra> run but cant create vm  why ____???
[00:25] <Soothsayer> cause it's data
[00:25] <erUSUL> !yay | jord
[00:25] <escott> Kijutsu, he virtual network (virbr0) used for Network address translation (NAT) which allows guests to access to network services. However, NAT slows down things and only recommended for desktop installations. google
[00:26] <Kijutsu> escott: I did... however, I can't find how to make it go away.  I have several servers installed on this and it's just mucking things up.
[00:26] <brewster> :[
[00:26] <escott> Soothsayer, the having lots of partitions approach is becoming less traditional but feel free to split partitions basically as much as you want, you have to have a /bin and /etc on /
[00:26] <jord> ubottu: :)
[00:26] <Soothsayer> escott: ye, I don't want to have lots of partitions..
[00:26] <escott> Kijutsu, disable your KVM guests and it should go away
[00:26] <Soothsayer> I want to avoid that.
[00:27] <Kijutsu> escott: i have no virtual machines setup or running on this box
[00:27] <Soothsayer> escott: but say I put the Ubuntu OS one drive (Drive A) and the data on another (Drive B) which actually implies two partitions
[00:27] <josheee12> hey guys.  i use libpam-usb for authing my login, etc.  how would i go about enabling the same thing for my keyring?
[00:27] <brewster> can someone please help
[00:27] <Soothsayer> so Drive B = /user  + /var
[00:27] <Soothsayer> Drive A = everything else
[00:27] <escott> Soothsayer, why don't you step back and prioritize between a) an easy way to fall back to plain windows, b) backups, c) performance
[00:28] <escott> Kijutsu, is your machine a VM on the server
[00:28] <Kijutsu> escott: nope.. it's a standalone Mac tower.
[00:28] <edbian> brewster: What is your problem?
[00:28] <brewster> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1394214
[00:28] <brewster> i need to know what files are safe to move back to /usr/local
[00:29] <escott> Kijutsu, weird and this is a standard ubuntu install?
[00:29] <Kijutsu> escott: 10.04 lts PPC server
[00:29] <escott> Kijutsu, did you want the server or desktop
[00:29] <Soothsayer> escott: well... tough call. I'd say a balance of each :-P But ye, I'd compromise on performance if I had to pick.. I got a quadcore with 4 gb anyway, so it's fast enough.
[00:29] <Kijutsu> escott: server -- O
[00:29] <Kijutsu> escott: I'm using it to serve a drupal website.
[00:29] <edbian> brewster: ?  This thread has nothing to do with that.  What files did you move out of /usr/local/  What is in there right now?
[00:30] <escott> Kijutsu, and how is this device messing things up
[00:30] <escott> Kijutsu, see if there is a libvirtd service and disable uninstall is
[00:30] <Kijutsu> escott: everything is trying to get mapped automatically to the virbr0 interface IP instead of the static IP i set on eth0
[00:31] <brewster> i renamed it to fix the problem that was preventing me from going into computer or removable media or trash
[00:31] <mister2> hey, all the shortcuts under 'Places' are broken and the folders are missing from ~/, is this a known bug?
[00:31] <brewster> sdl is in there
[00:31] <Soothsayer> escott: so Drive B = /user  + /var   and  Drive A = everything else  ?
[00:31] <brewster> a couple of games are in there
[00:31] <escott> Soothsayer, and how full are your disks?
[00:31] <doncams> hi. i have a dir where i want all dir to be chmod to 755 and all files to be chmod to 644
[00:32] <doncams> what's the easiest way to do this?
[00:32] <brewster> as well as some important looking libraries
[00:32] <escott> Soothsayer, do you have 1+ TB of data or 500G of data
[00:32] <Soothsayer> escott: I've got like 150 GB / 500 GB remaining in my old disk.. the 1 tb one is empty cause it will reach my door step tomorrow.
[00:32] <Kijutsu> escott: there is a service udner /etc/init.d -- but when i issue service libvirtd stop -- it returns unrecognized service
[00:33] <Soothsayer> escott:  Assume I have a total of 350 GB data so far
[00:34] <brewster> :/
[00:35] <escott> Soothsayer, if I were you then I would have something like this: sda1 Windows c: sda2, sdb1 ubuntu raid1 / (50gb is plenty), sda3,sdb2 raid1 ext4 (to fill sda); sdb3 NTFS win d: for the rest of the disk
[00:37] <mimmo> ciao
[00:37] <escott> Kijutsu, there must be a kernel module, you could try removing it/removing the service from boot time and then rebooting
[00:38] <Soothsayer> escott: ok, makes sense... so you've RAIDED all the Ubuntu data drives + the Ubuntu OS drive using remaining space from the SDA ?
[00:39] <escott> Soothsayer, yes but I've never trusted drives since a pair of DeathStars went down within 2 months of each other
[00:39] <escott> Soothsayer, and I don't know how to do windows raid
[00:39] <Soothsayer> escott: no, windows raid not important..
[00:40] <escott> Soothsayer, in fact you dont even have to split the linux partition if you dont want to
[00:40] <Soothsayer> escott: I understood this. But just one thing, so where does the mysql database file go? sdb2 (with mirror in sda3) ?
[00:40] <andril> hello all
[00:40] <andril> anyone know how to install the latest Vuze?
[00:40] <KabukiOrigin> Can anyone on channel suggest a web admin package for a home server?  I used to use Webmin, but it's getting older and still not in the repos (which helps with updates).
[00:40] <escott> Soothsayer, where to put /var is back into the whole performance thing
[00:40] <thien> what's the difference between install a software via .deb fiile and via ubuntu software center?
[00:41] <Soothsayer> escott: well it's about space more, ain't it? What if my MySQL database was more than 100 gb ?
[00:41] <KabukiOrigin> I'm looking for web admin of samba shares, primarily, plus basic status & package management.
[00:41] <KabukiOrigin> escott: a .deb can come from anywhere (via download).
[00:41] <KabukiOrigin> whups: thien: a .deb can come from anywhere (via download).
[00:42] <KabukiOrigin> thien: the software center is more automatic, and you can often find repos for non-mainstream packages (like tor, for example).
[00:42] <thien> if i install via a .deb, is it autoupdatable?
[00:42] <escott> Soothsayer, so you are concerned about a possible future where your mysql database is really big and you need to migrate it to another drive
[00:43] <KabukiOrigin> thien: Depends on what's installed.  For example Sun's virtualbox is, but it adds its own repos to your sources.list.  Other apps may have their own update path internal to the program.
[00:43] <Soothsayer> escott: well it's not a possible future.. its quite immediate cause I'm setting this up to act as a testing / simulation server of an actual production database of a web app..
[00:44] <Soothsayer> so yes, i'll be filling the database with 100 gb of space
[00:44] <Soothsayer> data*
[00:44] <KabukiOrigin> thien: Many times it's not going to autoupdate, which is a big advantage for the repos.
[00:44] <ruser> How can I convert old Windows innotek virtualbox vbox/vdk files for use with Sun/s Virtualbox for linux
[00:44] <ruser> they both have different keys
[00:44] <ruser> Would I have to write my own converter
[00:45] <KabukiOrigin> ruser: Is there an export function or a way to get it into an .OVF format?  That might help.
[00:45] <escott> Soothsayer, then having a partition for /var would be nice because you could manage it by itself, I would definitely recommend using linux md even if you only have a single disk, it would help migration because you can configure raid1 degraded and then add a disk to the array, and then remove the old device
[00:46] <ruser> ok
[00:46] <ruser> maybe
[00:46] <ruser> Waht is OVF format for VirtualBox
[00:46] <thien> KabukiOrigin: thanks
[00:46] <ruser> I could probably fool around and write one in C but I wondered if there was an easier way
[00:47] <Soothsayer> escott: ok, ill read up on that.. I have no clue about how to setup RAID or use linux md.. but I get the basic picture.
[00:48] <Soothsayer> escott: only one mount point can be selected for one directory right?
[00:48] <escott> Soothsayer, its fairly easy i think there is a wiki page somewhere
[00:48] <Soothsayer> cool, i'll find it :)
[00:48] <KabukiOrigin> thien: You're welcome.  In general I prefer to find a repo to keep my package management simpler, but sometimes you just have to grab the .deb (grin)
[00:49] <Soothsayer> I guess I'll need at least 5 hours to do all of this with setting up apache, php, mysql, etc.. got to make some free time I guess then
[00:49] <MK``> When 11.04 comes out, will I be able to upgrade to the newest kernel without updating Ubuntu?
[00:49] <escott> Soothsayer, yes one mount point per directory (except for some truly exotic stuff not relevant to you)
[00:50] <Soothsayer> escott: ok thanks :)
[00:50] <Soothsayer> a lot.
[00:51] <thien> when i install openoffice via U soft Center, it says: Package dependencies cannot be resolved. what do i have to do ?
[00:52] <Yoshimi> Anyone have any suggestions for a UPnP/DLNA compliant media server that is easy enough for someone without any technical know how to use, but still has features that are tweakable to an advanced user?
[00:52] <Yoshimi> thien: Could you use Libre Office instead?
[00:52] <Soothsayer> by the way, this desktop has a Wireless network card ( D-Link Wireless DWA-510 ). Any idea if this would work out-of-the box with ubuntu 10.10?
[00:52] <thien> Yoshimi: which is better?
[00:53] <Soothsayer> thien: ye, just install libreoffice
[00:53] <Soothsayer> libreoffice in my opinion.
[00:53] <smw> Yoshimi, what are you using it for? PS3 media server was perfect for my ps3
[00:53] <Soothsayer> Just moved to it 2 days ago.. and I believe Ubuntu 11 is going to replace openoffice with libreoffice.
[00:53] <escott> thien, Soothsayer the Oracle purchase of Sun has caused some name changes OpenOffice -> LibreOffice MySQL->MariaDB (although the mysql one is less decided Oracle is still hot and cold on mysql)
[00:53] <MK``> Yes, it is
[00:53] <Yoshimi> 360 and original Xbox with XBMC
[00:54] <smw> Yoshimi, I have also used mediatomb (which I dropped because ps3 media server had automatic transcoding)
[00:54] <Yoshimi> But I tried PMS and it was so... meh...
[00:54] <Soothsayer> escott: MariaDB? :-| never heard of that.
[00:54] <Yoshimi> Right now I'm using TVersity on an M$ box
[00:54] <Yoshimi> But I hate it
[00:54] <smw> Soothsayer, MariaDB is a fork of MySQL that is made by the original author
[00:54] <mfilipe> is there any sensor applet to unity?
[00:54] <sparrW> I seem to be stuck with Gnash as my flash player in Firefox on Ubuntu 10.10, even though I have adobe-flashplugin installed. Help?
[00:54] <MK``> Oracle stopped commercial development of OpenOffice.org because of so many developers jumping ship to LibreOffice
[00:54] <escott> Soothsayer, yeah just be aware that the future of mysql is up in the air, oracle is being weird
[00:54] <Soothsayer> smw: ye, I'm reading it now.. hmm..
[00:55] <thien> ok. i'll use libre. but when i install a software via U soft center, if it says "Package dependencies cannot be resolved", what do i have to do?
[00:55] <Soothsayer> escott: ye, I've read some articles about that online.. why did oracle buy mysql !
[00:55] <Yoshimi> Install the dependencies :p
[00:55] <smw> Soothsayer, the developer sold mysql for $1 Billion and then forked it when Oracle got it.
[00:55] <aeMaeth> I reinstalled ubuntu 10.10, did not delete my /home/ , but now i'm having trouble with my gpg keys, i get "gpg: gpg-agent is not available in this session"
[00:55] <Soothsayer> SUN rather
[00:56] <smw> Soothsayer, no, he forked it when Oracle obtained it from Sun
[00:56] <thien> but don't know what to install. it doesn't say.
[00:56] <Soothsayer> smw: Wow.
[00:56] <escott> thien, that shouldn't happen to you, if it does it usually because you have an older package that is not supported anymore (like openoffice)
[00:56] <smw> Soothsayer, just like the OO.o people forked when sun was sold
[00:56] <Soothsayer> What could be the worse possible thing that could happen to MySQL ?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> aeMaeth: try chowning your home folder to your user in a root recovery mode
[00:57] <escott> Soothsayer, I don't think you will have problems if you install mysql, you just may have to go through a name change in the future if Oracle jumps ship and takes the name with it
[00:57] <spirals> any ffmpeg wizards handy?
[00:58] <smw> Soothsayer, MySQL could go unmaintained for years or Oracle could make proprietary plugins or stop accepting new features from outsiders.
[00:58] <mfilipe> is there any sensor applet to unity? is project hamster support unity?
[00:58] <xtr3m3> hi, is it true you cannot change the default port for vino?
[00:58] <Soothsayer> smw: ye, true. Especially MySQL is something that needs a lot of catching up and features to do.
[00:59] <smw> Soothsayer, Jenkins (formerly hudson) also changed names with Oracle obtained it.
[00:59] <ventas5> hi
[00:59] <Soothsayer> MariaDB is such a gay name!
[00:59] <smw> Soothsayer, all these projects fear Oracle for a reason ;-)
[00:59] <MK``> haha I was just going to post that smw. Perhaps this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic however
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: for which release?
[00:59] <jpastore> how do you get your second video card to work?
[00:59] <smw> Soothsayer, it is the name of the developers other daughter...
[00:59] <ryan> Hello everyone
[01:00] <jpastore> hello ryan
[01:00] <smw> Soothsayer, I would not say that to Monty's face ;-)
[01:00] <xtr3m3> hi ryan
[01:00] <mfilipe> ActionParsnip: 11beta2
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: then your release is offtopic here
[01:00] <mfilipe> ActionParsnip: my distro is up-to-date
[01:00] <Soothsayer> smw: hehe
[01:00] <Soothsayer> Anyone predicts driver issues with D-Link Wireless Network card in Ubuntu 10.10?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: your OS is supported in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[01:01] <ryan> Is this a good place to ask a couple of general questions?
[01:01] <escott> spirals whats the question
[01:01] <mfilipe> undersante
[01:01] <mfilipe> understood*
[01:01] <mfilipe> hehe
[01:01] <mfilipe> thanks
[01:01] <thien> thanks everyone. bb.
[01:01] <Soothsayer> ok I'm off now.
[01:01] <tanz> hello
[01:01] <aeon-ltd> ryan: ubuntu related, yes if not go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <Soothsayer> Cheers!
[01:01] <jpastore> Soothsayer, why not try a live cd?
[01:02] <Soothsayer> jpastore: ye just thought of that actually
[01:02] <Soothsayer> I'll try it tomorrow
[01:02] <tanz> hey dose any one here run BackTrack?
[01:02] <Soothsayer> Thanks escott :)
[01:02] <escott> ryan, yes
[01:02] <jpastore> Soothsayer, night then
[01:02] <tanz> dose any one run blacktrack here?
[01:02] <ryan> I have a couple of questions about general application installation. I have downloaded a couple programs which all work fine (eclipse, firefox) but they don't show up in the "Applications". Its like I just unzipped them and ran the app but it never got registered with Ubuntu
[01:02] <rww> tanz: Backtrack is offtopic here, try #backtrack-linux
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> tanz: backtrack is offtopic and unsupported here
[01:04] <tanz> #backtrack-linux
[01:04] <escott> ryan, if you install through the standard mechanisms apt-get software center synaptic you will get menu items, otherwise use the menu editor to manually create entries
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> ryan: eclipse and firefox are in the repos
[01:04] <botcity> MK``, did you fix your disk problem?
[01:05] <MK``> botcity: no, gave up for now
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> ryan: if you want to keep what you have you can run:  alacarte   and add launcher to the menu as you wish,
[01:05] <ryan> @ActionParsnip well I installed a mod of eclipse called Aptana
[01:05] <Cube``> why do i always get 403-Forbidden errors for every php file inside of /var/www?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> ryan: however, the apps will not get updated with the rest of your OS as you have sidestepped the packaging system
[01:06] <spirals> escott: I want to combine a jpeg and an mp3. I have done a bunch of searching and checked the intimidating help for ffmpeg and still don't have a working 1 liner for that task.
[01:06] <spirals> escott, goal is YT uploads
[01:06] <ryan> @ActionParsnip Ahhh, how can I register it with the packaging system?
[01:06] <escott> spirals, ive done the jpeg before do you have a sequence of jpegs or a single one?
[01:06] <spirals> escott, just a single one (cover ;) )
[01:06] <Somelauw> Okay, I am using ubuntu 10.10 on 64 bit with awesome as windows manager and I am looking with vlc to a mkv file and for some reason it is using my cpu for about 80%.
[01:07] <escott> spirals, the first step then is to create an input file for the frames. calculate fps*length and do "for f in `seq 1 prod`; do echo "filename">>frames.txt"; done
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> ryan: you can't you need to install it with debs
[01:08] <Somelauw> So I have excellent hardware, very lightweight software and vlc wastes it by using cpu for a gpu task.
[01:08] <spirals> escott, ok I follow you so far, I had a equivalent function worked out
[01:09] <jpastore> so does anyone know how to enable s econd video card?
[01:10] <escott> spirals, and then it is something like ffmpeg -i @frames.txt -r fps -i audio.mp3 output.mp4
[01:11] <Somelauw> What is the best player to open .mkv files with? (So it actually uses my gpu?)
[01:11] <spirals> escott, thanks, i'll play with that
[01:11] <spirals> escott, appreciate it
[01:11] <Somelauw> Or what package do I need so my vlc will open it smarter.
[01:11] <Somelauw> ?
[01:11] <escott> spirals, mencoder (apt-get install mplayer) is a bit less finiky than ffmpeg
[01:12] <spirals> I'm not attached to ffmpeg, just need a scriptable solution.
[01:12] <Internat> somelauw.. theres an option in vlc the advanced section of output
[01:12] <ryan> @ActionParsnip I hate to ask... what are debs (sniffle)
[01:13] <Internat> debs are .deb files.. there archives that have all the package info, config files, metafiles, man pages and so on.
[01:13] <Internat> when you run apt-get install <x> it gets the deb file for x
[01:14] <Somelauw> Internat: So is it dangerous to use gpu with vlc media player or why isn't it enabled by default?
[01:14] <ryan> so when I D/L something from the net ... like a .tar should I unzip it and then run that command on it?
[01:14] <Internat> not at all. just not everyone has hardware rendering available
[01:14] <Somelauw> It almost locks up my system when running it on cpu. I can't even move my move anymore.
[01:14] <Internat> ryan: no you should be using apt-get install <package> to install what you want.
[01:15] <arand> ryan: .deb is a binary .tar.gz is source, as a general rule..
[01:15] <spirals> escott, so your frames.txt is a file with 1 line for each frame where each line is the filename of the frame, correct
[01:15] <Somelauw> Internat: So why doesn't vlc check if hardware rendering is available?
[01:15] <Internat> you can ask the vlc developers that :)
[01:15] <synackfin> when I log in, I see "Welcome to Ubuntu" multiple times (3x)
[01:15] <ryan> well how do I know the names of the packages I want to install? So it looks like I have the source code versions of the programmings I downloaded
[01:15] <arand> ryan: Or rather .deb is a collection of binaries and other final-product items
[01:16] <synackfin> anyone know how to fix it? (or which file is read when I log in?)
[01:16] <escott> spirals, i believe so (never done it that way but I saw someone suggest that)
[01:16] <synackfin> I did "grep -r Welcome /etc" but didn't find any file
[01:16] <apn> synackfin, /etc/motd maybe?
[01:16] <smw> ryan, what are you trying to do?
[01:16] <rolandixor> Matr|x what exactly is happening when you try to connect?
[01:17] <spirals> escott, ahh, just trying to work out the input file you're using in the ffmpeg command
[01:17] <escott> spirals, unless I am confusing with mencoder (which is entirely possible) you could try just doing ffmpeg -i image.jpeg -i audio.mp3
[01:17] <spirals> escott, when I do that I get a 1 frame video that's very short.
[01:17] <escott> spirals, i know that ffmpeg -i image%04d.jpeg will work
[01:18] <smw> so, ryan, what specifically are you trying to install?
[01:18] <synackfin> apn: ah, thanks.  I ran grep on the wrong host!
[01:19] <spirals> escott, it defaults to a duration of .04 seconds though. this is where the documentation starts to fail hard. :/
[01:19] <escott> spirals, you could make a bunch of symlinks in a script
[01:19] <ryan> I'm just trying to install some general software I need
[01:19] <ryan> like an eclipse mod called aptana
[01:19] <lainy> how do i change the maverick login screen?
[01:19] <ryan> I got it running, but it doesn't register in the app's section since I didn't use the package manager
[01:19] <Somelauw> Thanks internat, it actually runs much smoother now. Unfortunately, I already watched it, so it will need to wait until my next mkv file.
[01:20] <Internat> :)
[01:20] <Internat> np.
[01:20] <smw> ryan, for eclipse mods, doesn't eclipse have its own package manager
[01:21] <thien> oops... when i install libreoffice via u soft center, it says Package dependencies cannot be resolved too
[01:21] <ryan> well smw, can you give a term or something I can search on to learn more about installing software and linux package management
[01:22] <ryan> I see the apt-install script commands, but I have no idea how to apply that to the software I need since I don't know the official names of it
[01:22] <smw> ryan, this is why we have the software center
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> thien: what is the output of: lsb_release -d
[01:22] <smw> ryan, it is a gui to using apt get which is easier to search.
[01:23] <thien> ActionParsnip: Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> thien: ok can you use: http://pastebin.com and give the output of:  lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[01:24] <ryan> thanks smw, but it doesn't have all the software I need
[01:24] <ryan> that is why I tried to download it from the net
[01:24] <smw> ryan, what you downloaded. Did it have a README or INSTALL file?
[01:25] <SubCool> that was quick
[01:25] <thien> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Vi79izpg
[01:25] <SubCool> AFKB - But- while im here. Can i Command prompt a downgrade from 10.10 to 10.04?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | SubCool
[01:26] <SubCool> Thanks ActionParsnip - i was hoping you would respond.
[01:26] <ryan> swm, nope sure didn't
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> thien: does: sudo apt-get -f install       help?
[01:26] <SubCool> so my best option would be a fresh install?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: its the only way
[01:27] <SubCool> k- thanks.
[01:27] <smw> ryan, can you give me a link to what you are installing?
[01:27] <SubCool> Ok- so then. Can anyone assist in Vmware WOrkstation for 10.10?
[01:28] <SubCool> actually- scratch that.. This computer is a single core- its not really worth it.
[01:28] <jessicaBR> hey, I just tried to install ubuntu maverick on my new laptop, and a msg shows up while booting: "thermal reporting for required devices..."
[01:28] <smw> ryan, btw, I meant the INSTALL/README file should be found in the compressed archive (tar file)
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: it'll run, just use a light DE :D
[01:28] <SubCool> ActionParsnip: Is there a backup action that ubottu can link me to?
[01:28] <ryan> http://www.aptana.com/products/studio2/download
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[01:29] <SubCool> ActionParsnip: well, i having an issue  with it, and vmware wont help because 10.10 isnt LTE
[01:29] <smw> !who > ryan
[01:29] <jessicaBR> jessicaBR, does anyone know if I should fix anything?
[01:29] <SubCool> awesome- thanks..
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: try virtualbox
[01:30] <smw> ryan, did you take a look at their site? http://docs.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Installing_Aptana_on_Linux
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[01:30] <SubCool> whats with the garbage?
[01:31] <smw> ryan, if you have problems following that guide, feel free to ask questions
[01:31] <ryan> thanks smw, I did read that but it was over my head. I have no idea what it was talking about when it said ... "make sure you $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME is pointing to your xulrunner 1.8 dir"
[01:32] <rcconf> Is there a way to make network-manager resetting spoofed mac address? i tried with macchanger. (and tried spoof option in NM too but it's not working with WPA)
[01:32] <ryan> also also the other packages that need to be installed such as compat-libstdc++
[01:32] <smw> ryan, damn, you are right, this is not very beginner friendly
[01:33] <smw> ryan, maybe this is easier. http://docs.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Plugging_Aptana_into_an_existing_Eclipse_configuration
[01:33] <rcconf> I want to stop networkmanager from resetting maccaddress :\
[01:34] <ryan> well i got that working that way, but i really feel like I'm just way in over my head. I really don't mind do the research and reading. but I just have no idea where to start. I have lots of other software I want to install
[01:34] <rick_> salut ya tu quelqun qyyui peu maider avec ubuntu jai un probleme avec les mise a jour\
[01:34] <rcconf> !fr | rick_
[01:34] <ryan> so it does work, but I just went right around the package manager, so I would love to figure out hwo to do this stuff the right way
[01:34] <smw> ryan, the reason you feel that way is because the instructions were made for developers and not people :-\
[01:34] <smw> ryan, that is the right way.
[01:35] <ryan> hahaha funny, because I do web development so I could handle the jargon if it was on a windows enviro
[01:35] <smw> ryan, installing as an eclipse plugin is probably the best way.
[01:35] <ryan> gotcha, well I'll do that, thanks for the help. could you give me a link or something that might help me learn more on this stuff??
[01:35] <smw> ryan, the way they explained was much more hackish than the eclipse plugin.
[01:36] <smw> ryan, depends on what stuff you are referring to. None of this had to do with the package manager
[01:36] <smw> ryan, before you were asking a general question and getting a general response. the package manager was NOT the right way to handle this.
[01:36] <ryan> LOL so I'm just lucky, i was going to try and install some VMWare to run some windows programs next
[01:37] <thien> when i install libre office, at command: sudo dpkg -i *.deb, terminal says: javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! what to do?
[01:37] <smw> thien, install java?
[01:37] <smw> !java | thien
[01:37] <thien> how to?
[01:37] <jpastore> what is a good channel to go to for some x11 help?
[01:37] <breeden> was told i would be given money for joining
[01:38] <breeden> ?
[01:38] <Crazymonkey1123> i want da money
[01:38] <breeden> Gimme money plez!
[01:38] <rcconf> !ot
[01:38] <smw> breeden, saying stuff like that is allowed on #ubuntu-ot
[01:38] <smw> breeden, saying stuff like that is allowed on #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:39] <Blackadder> need help anyone got an idea on how I may mirror mysql to Amazon Ubuntu cloud server?
[01:40] <darkvader> hi dudes
[01:40] <Dreki> whats the most powerful torrent client to use with ubuntu?
[01:40] <rcconf> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:40] <rcconf> Dreki: deluge maybe
[01:40] <smw> Dreki, what do you look for in a torrent client?
[01:40] <edbian> Dreki: I use transmission
[01:40] <rolandixor> i
[01:41] <rcconf> if u want something simple use transmission
[01:41] <ryan> thanks for the smw,  I really appreicate it. lata
[01:41] <Atomhunter> I use utorrent
[01:41] <darkvader> i have a problem, i'm trying to rip a dvd, i've tried 4 or 5 different programs but the results are the same, corruption
[01:41] <rcconf> Atomhunter: on wine? lol
[01:41] <smw> Blackadder, what are you trying to do?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: define 'powerful'
[01:41] <Blackadder> backup mysql tables on the fly m8
[01:42] <Atomhunter> Opps.... Forgot I don't have torrent client in My ubuntu...
[01:42] <ZykoticK9> Dreki, i like rtorrent+screen, but I like command line ;)
[01:42] <Dreki> smw edbian rcconf i look for options, and something thats fast. doesnt have to be extreamly user friendly, but a gui is nice
[01:42] <smw> Blackadder, so, you want a read slave?
[01:42] <tiagoscd> the intrepid repository has removed? I can't find it in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[01:42] <edbian> Dreki: Then they're all equal
[01:42] <Blackadder> I built up a user management system from scratch + cron jobs I need to have it auto propagate
[01:42] <edbian> Dreki: I guess don't use rtorrent it doesn't have a gui
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Dreki: try transmission, its spiffy. It also has a web UI so you can control torrents remotely if you desire
[01:43] <rcconf> mac address spoofing and wpa bug http://markmail.org/message/5ary4cvzlirvro73
[01:43] <smw> Blackadder, I am not going to try to explain how to make a read slave because it is too difficult. Instead I am just going to tell you to google it :-).
[01:44] <Blackadder> lol
[01:44] <smw> Blackadder, also note that read slaves maybe a little bit behind the master.
[01:44] <Blackadder> I already did slave it what I am getting is a constant timeout
[01:44] <aj91193> hello
[01:45] <aj91193> i need some help with ubuntu
[01:45] <Blackadder> from the slave it keeps timing out
[01:45] <smw> Blackadder, not sure then. I use the amzn multi-az rds instance.
[01:45] <rcconf> !ask | aj91193
[01:45] <smw> Blackadder, it is not exactly what you are looking for though.
[01:46] <smw> Blackadder, you may want to try #mysql to see if anyone can help with the timeout problem
[01:46] <aj91193> i deleted my configuration files in ubuntu linux, and i cant get back on it. I tried to download it again and reboot it, but it keeps saying that there are no configuration files. Any ideas?
[01:47] <Blackadder> #mysql is Ubuntu help channels?
[01:47] <rcconf> im giving up
[01:47] <smw> Blackadder, no, it is the mysql help channel. You are right now on the freenode irc network
[01:47] <rcconf> aj91193: what configuration files?
[01:48] <Blackadder> kk I am new I just pull everyting from the forum
[01:48] <aj91193> i was trying some things in the terminal, and i saw a directory titled 'TMP'. it was highlighted, but i did not think i needed it, so i deleted it.
[01:49] <smw> Blackadder, you are right now on a chat server with help channels for almost anything you can  think of ;-)
[01:49] <Blackadder> q anyone having problems with webmin 1.54 with the latest Ubuntu 28.35 pae
[01:49] <rww> !webmin
[01:49] <MK``> aj91193: /tmp ?
[01:49] <rcconf> aj91193: you deleted /tmp/ ?
[01:49] <aj91193> yes
[01:49] <aj91193> call me stupid, but i didnt think i needed it
[01:49] <Blackadder> I had to reboot server in safe mode then drop root shell to have it restarted
[01:49] <rcconf> aj91193: boot from livecd, go to the / partition and mkdir tmp
[01:50] <MK``> ^ it's used as a general purpose temporary directory
[01:50] <SlickT10> anyone else having problems quiting programs using ctrl c in ubuntu 11.04?
[01:50] <MK``> it clears itself when you reboot, mostly
[01:50] <rww> SlickT10: #ubuntu is for supported versions of Ubuntu only. Please use #ubuntu+1 for natty until it's released (probably on the 28th). Thanks!
[01:50] <MK``> but it's needed by the OS
[01:50] <smw> aj91193, it looks to me like a reinstall is your best option
[01:50] <rcconf> aj91193: if you deleted /tmp/ just create it again lol
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> Blackadder, #debian's webmin factoid is even better << Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix.  Check it out at http://webmin.com/  Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin.  "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server."  Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 .  The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality.
[01:50] <ZykoticK9> See <free whcp> for alternatives. >>
[01:50] <SlickT10> rww: thanks
[01:51] <smw> aj91193, if you were experienced, it would be possible to fix it. But seeing as you got yourself into this position in the first place, reinstall is easier.
[01:51] <aj91193> i tried a reinstall, and it comes up with 'no Default or UI configuration directive found
[01:51] <smw> aj91193, when you boot an install cd?
[01:51] <aj91193> i used a usb download from the ubuntu site
[01:51] <smw> aj91193, are you sure it was booting off the usb drive?
[01:51] <Inumedia> Why does my Touchpad move my cursor faster in relation to my screen resolution aspect ratio?
[01:52] <aj91193> snw, originally,  or now?
[01:52] <Blackadder> Ooops its not as if I really need it but nice to have a graphic admin. Do u think I should remove webmin from my cluster
[01:52] <smw> aj91193, you are unable to do a complete reinstall of the system?
[01:53] <Blackadder> I had to rebuild one of my servers after I installed it just would NOT reboot
[01:53] <aj91193> as far as i can see, i am unable to do so. i downloaded the 64bit of 10.10 just now, and used the universal usb installer to set it up, but it doenst work
[01:54] <Blackadder> installed wembin worked nicely until I rebooted Ubuntu 10.10 32bit
[01:54] <Inumedia> Why do I not have /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:55] <Blackadder> then server never managed to even make it to safe mode
[01:55] <smw> !xorg.conf | Inumedia
[01:55] <ZykoticK9> Inumedia, if you are using open source drivers, it's all done automajically now
[01:55] <Blackadder> running perfect thoug on other 3 server
[01:55] <smw> Inumedia, it figures out the system at boot. It does not need xorg.conf
[01:56] <ZykoticK9> Inumedia, it is of course possible to create one if needed
[01:56] <Blackadder> X server takes a lot out of the resources purged it. Best to have everything done SSH
[01:57] <rcconf> is there a way to make network-manager to stop resetting spoofed mac address?
[01:57] <rcconf> (i know it has a built in spoof option which doesnt work with wpa)
[01:58] <ZykoticK9> rcconf, (i don't know anything about spoofed macs) but have you considered using WICD instead of nm-applet?  something to consider.  Or you could set up your networks the manual way.  Best of luck.
[01:59] <fajar2408> hmm
[01:59] <aj91193> does anyone have a site with a full ubuntu reinstall iso?
[01:59] <Alsen> wow, many people..
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> aj91193, "reinstall iso" is that different from a regular LiveCD?
[02:00] <Darwon> what do you guys set your swappiness to ?
[02:00] <Cheez> Anyone have any idea why ports wouldnt open up?
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> aj91193: the install CD is the reinstall ISO
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> Darwon: usually about 5
[02:00] <edbian> Cheez: you have a router / firewall
[02:01] <Cheez> I know
[02:01] <aj91193> i dont have a specific cd that came with it, i downloaded it off the internet, so i dont know
[02:01] <Cheez> They used to open fine... then they just stoped working
[02:01] <Axlin|MB> Darwon: 1 GB on my desktop with 4 GB of RAM, and 2 GB on my laptop with 2 GB of RAM. if you want to hibernate, you'll need swap to equal RAM
[02:01] <Cheez> The connection times out when i test them with canyouseeme.org
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> Darwon: i only chat and web browse and have 2Gb ram in the systems I do it in so I have enough ram. swappiness will need evaluating on use
[02:01] <semitones> I'm trying to get two ubuntu computers on the same LAN to share files. Right now they both say they're sharing, but they both can't see the other's share. Any ideas?
[02:01] <Darwon> thank you ActionParsnip, I have mine at default on the 512 RAM, and 0 on the 4 Gig, and I will set it to 5 on the 2 Gig
[02:01] <edbian> Cheez: What do you mean?  Are we talking about a router or a firewall?
[02:01] <aj91193> i just want something that will totally reboot or re-put ubuntu back on my desktop
[02:01] <Cheez> Router
[02:02] <pehden> QUESTION: postfix , dovecot , spamassasin , with procmail, I had this all set up and I had an issue with something else so i had removed postfix , well before my email would come into folder /home/pehden/mail     now it keeps going to /var/mail/pehden what do i need to do to fix this back so i can use my webmail lite to check it
[02:02] <leapy0yo> hi
[02:02] <rcconf> ZykoticK9: yes, I've used wicd before and it works but it doesnt have VPN support etc
[02:02] <leapy0yo> i can do an add user, but how do I do a delete user?
[02:02] <smw> leapy0yo, userdel or use the gui
[02:02] <Cheez> I have ports opened for a server with a wired connection, and it works fine. But when i try to forward them with my laptop (wireless) they dont work,, and no one can connect to the server
[02:03] <pehden> Cheez is the server using a static IP
[02:03] <edbian> Cheez: Are you forwarding the port to the correct IP address?  (the IP of the laptop)
[02:03] <Darwon> Im getting my boxes ready for the 28th
[02:03] <xtbgod> >.<
[02:03] <Cheez> Yea its a dynamic ip. and i forwarded to the right internal IP. I know how to port forward and everything, but for some reason it just stopped working.
[02:03] <Kijutsu> Using ubuntu 10.04 -- do I need to do anything weird to partition a 4k sector hard drive?
[02:03] <bob_ooooo> #ubuntu_cn
[02:04] <semitones> they can't ping each other either
[02:04] <Blackadder> well I had some problems with ports. Check if u havenŌĆÖt got anything taking over your ports. change your app boot sqsequence
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> leapy0yo: sudo rmuser username
[02:04] <aj91193> soo, any  ideas?
[02:04] <semitones> How can I make it so two computers can ping each other
[02:04] <edbian> Cheez: What service are you running on the laptop? Do you have a firewall running on it?
[02:04] <smw> ActionParsnip, why rmuser vs userdel?
[02:05] <Cheez> yes i do have a firewall, but it is unblocking the port
[02:05] <smw> ActionParsnip, command not found
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> smw: not sure, should do the same thing afaik
[02:05] <smw> ActionParsnip, I got a cmd not found
[02:05] <DShepherd> semitones, how are the two computer connected?
[02:05] <edbian> Cheez: For the sake of argument why don't you turn the firewall off on the laptop.
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> smw: so it is, my bad
[02:05] <semitones> DShepherd, they are on the same LAN, sharing a router
[02:05] <Cheez> Ok... but i think this is something wrong with my router :/
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> leapy0yo: if you add the -r switch, it will remove the users $HOME folder too :)
[02:06] <Cheez> Because the firewall has never caused me problems when port forwarding
[02:06] <DShepherd> semitones, is the router offering ipaddresses to the machines?
[02:06] <DShepherd> dhcp*
[02:06] <semitones> DShepherd, yes
[02:06] <edbian> Cheez: Well can you connect to your server (on the laptop) from another machine on the LAN ?
[02:06] <rcconf> how do i know if this network manager issue was fixed in naty?
[02:06] <rcconf> natty
[02:06] <Cheez> Yea i can
[02:06] <Cheez> wait
[02:06] <Blackadder> DHCP no good for server u must allocate a static IP on your lan m8
[02:06] <Cheez> yea using a direct url
[02:06] <DShepherd> semitones, do you know the ip address of each machine?
[02:07] <Blackadder> no wonder its blocking forwarded ports
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> rcconf: ask in ~ubuntu+1
[02:07] <rcconf> k
[02:07] <bob_ooooo> how to use arpalert
[02:08] <semitones> DShepherd, yes
[02:08] <semitones> DShepherd, and they can ping the router
[02:08] <phoenixsampras> how to use launcpad packages?
[02:09] <Inumedia> !xorg.conf | Inumedia
[02:09] <Blackadder> anyone know an Ubuntu developers advanced channl thanx
[02:09] <DShepherd> semitones, hmm.. they are in the same subnet right? They should be if the router gave them the address
[02:09] <semitones> DShepherd, yea i think they are
[02:10] <Inumedia> ZykoticK9: I need it to be able to configure my touchpad
[02:10] <DShepherd> have you tried to do a trace route?
[02:10] <semitones> DShepherd, no, what's that?
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: do you mean like a ppa?
[02:11] <ZykoticK9> Inumedia, i've never had to config a touchpad.  sorry, no suggestions.
[02:11] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: yeh
[02:11] <Inumedia> Why does my cursor move faster left/right than up/down when I use my touchpad.  It seems to be in relation to my screen resolution and is not the same for a normal USB mouse.
[02:11] <Cheez> any ideas?
[02:12] <DShepherd> semitones, you are using ubuntu right?
[02:12] <semitones> DShepherd, yes, both have ubuntu
[02:12] <Cheez> edbian: do you think there might be something wrong with my router? i just reinstalled the firmware, and it didnt fix it
[02:13] <DShepherd> semitones, tracepath [ip address] #that will give you an idea if its stuff is going past the router
[02:13] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: i want to upgrade my cacti install to the latest one
[02:13] <DShepherd> semitones, do you mind sharing the ip address and subnet mask of your setup?
[02:14] <semitones> DShepherd, well it reaches the other computer
[02:14] <semitones> sure, <IP_ADDRESS>, and probably <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:14] <semitones> or .255
[02:14] <DShepherd> semitones, does it work from the other side also?
[02:14] <aj91193> if anyone is still willing to help such a noob as me, when i try to log on my ubuntu it says "There is a prolem with the configuration server.(/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)"
[02:14] <semitones> DShepherd,
[02:14] <semitones> hold on
[02:15] <semitones> Now I can ping the other computer, trying the other one
[02:16] <Cheez> Noez D:
[02:16] <phoenixsampras> !ppa
[02:16] <Inumedia> Why does my cursor move faster left/right than up/down when I use my touchpad?  It seems to be in relation to my screen resolution and is not the same for a normal USB mouse.
[02:17] <semitones> DShepherd, cool they can ping each other now, i don't know what happened in the mean time
[02:17] <semitones> thanks
[02:17] <DShepherd> semitones, glad i could help. I didn't do anything though :) enjoy!
[02:17] <lucas_> I would like to start my desktop computer remotely using my laptop. Any suggestions on how this can be accomplished?
[02:18] <Cheez> Is it for sure that my router is broken if ports dont forward even after i updated my router firmware?
[02:18] <phoenixsampras> How do I use software from a PPA o Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[02:20] <Kijutsu> How do I partition a WD ADvanced format drive without breaking everything?
[02:21] <synackfin> if I have a large vector (length=20e6) of two numbers, 83 and 30 - how do I convert it to a vector where 83 maps to 1 and 30 maps to 2 ?
[02:22] <lucas_> Kijutsu: I have such a drive on my laptop. Seemed to have problems at first, but after formatting it using maverick's gparted all seemed ok. There are always the boot cd's provided from WD
[02:22] <Addalaide> i am new to using linux and i am haveing a problum with the left side panel can anyone help me?
[02:22] <pehden> !natty
[02:23] <trist> heys guys im back
[02:23] <lucas_> I would like to start my desktop computer remotely using my laptop. Any suggestions on how this can be accomplished?
[02:23] <aj91193> can any one help me?
[02:23] <trist> was abel to install using nomodeset
[02:23] <pehden> lucas_ http://teamviewer.com
[02:23] <pehden> wait nvm that
[02:24] <pehden> i thought you said connect
[02:24] <trist> and now have istalled nvidia driver but now im back to black screen again any ideas
[02:24] <pehden> you may be interested in wol
[02:24] <lucas_> pehden: I already connected successfully using vnc
[02:24] <Inumedia> Why does my cursor move faster left/right than up/down when I use my touchpad?  It seems to be in relation to my screen resolution and is not the same for a normal USB mouse.
[02:24] <synackfin> whoops, wrong chan
[02:24] <Kijutsu> lucas_: did gparted format it properly aligned?
[02:24] <pehden> lucas_ i missread your question you may want WOL
[02:25] <Addalaide> the icons on my left pannel dont show up correctly any ideas?
[02:25] <trist> ??
[02:26] <trist> can anyone help me
[02:27] <wizo> hi, i tried following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Virtual%20Hosts however I still get redirected to my /var/www has anyone tried this and gotten it working? my host is on an external server
[02:27] <lucas_> Kijutsu: With Lucid it didn't, but with Maverick yes. When I create new partitions I always select "align to Mib and it works. Anyway if it is not correctly alligned you can feel the difference ;)
[02:28] <Acid190> trist: what's yur problem?
[02:28] <Kijutsu> lucas_: where did you find the align to Mib option?
[02:29] <trist> black screen at boot up so i used nomodeset now i have installed nvidia driver but still black screen at boot up
[02:29] <lucas_> in gparted, when you select to create a new partition... The Dialog box has it
[02:29] <Acid190> trist:so what were you doing just before you got a black screen, or have you never even had one?
[02:30] <XP1> how do i pad a file with "FF" using dd?
[02:30] <trist> no i always have black screen unless i set nomodeset in boot command
[02:30] <Acid190> trist:see, maybe im not sure what advice you have already been given, but nomodeset isn't something ive used
[02:31] <Acid190> trist:maybe you can tell me what you are trying to accomplish?
[02:31] <XP1> "dd if=inputFile.bin ibs=100k of=paddedFile.bin conv=sync" pads with null zeros, but I want FFs
[02:31] <zebastianortis> hi, i got a problem, my camera card wont let me erase files or delete them and i need to do that since the card is full, when i try to do this even after typing sudo nautilus on the terminal it says read only system, how do i change this? thx
[02:31] <wizo> does the doc site only work for local hosts?
[02:31] <Tempus_Fugit> why is it that once you unmount the sdcard reader that it wont read another until you reboot....how do I make it manually look for another sdcard thats been inserted??
[02:31] <trist> i was using it to get ubuntu installed and so i could load tthe graphics driver but it still black screens
[02:32] <Acid190> zebastianortis: is there a force option?
[02:32] <Kijutsu> lucas_: did you get a blank 32k partition at the beginning of your drive?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> trist: what video chip?
[02:32] <zebastianortis> how do you mean Acid190?
[02:32] <trist> gforce g210
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> trist: add the bootoption: nouveau.blacklist=1
[02:33] <Tempus_Fugit> how do you mount an sdcard manually
[02:33] <wizo> a less of sites-enabled/mysite shows that document root is at /home/user/public_html =/
[02:33] <lucas_> Kijitsu: nope... I just created a new partition table from scratch (under Device-Create partition table)
[02:34] <trist> thanks di i replace nouveau.blacklist=1 with the quite splash
[02:34] <lucas_> Kijitsu: But I don't know if this is a new way of WD of doing things. When did you get that drive?
[02:34] <phoenixsampras> How do I use software from a PPA on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[02:34] <Kijutsu> lucas_: yesterday
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> trist: yes
[02:34] <zebastianortis> i dont get why my camera card is locked
[02:35] <zebastianortis> how do i unlock it, when i try to delete stuff it says read only system, i dont remember this from before
[02:35] <Kijutsu> lucas_: to be 100% honest, I bought two 2tbs.. I don't even know if my boot drive is properly partitioned or not.
[02:35] <trist> thanks ill try no
[02:35] <Inumedia> Why does my cursor move faster left/right than up/down when I use my touchpad?  It seems to be in relation to my screen resolution and is not the same for a normal USB mouse.
[02:35] <XP1> is it possible to pad a file with another file using dd?
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: what make / model is the laptop?
[02:36] <Inumedia> Toshiba Satelite L305d-S5928
[02:36] <leapy0yo> i installed sabnzbd but I cannot login to the website unless I use <IP_ADDRESS> instead of the internet ip
[02:36] <Addalaide> the icons on my left side panel arnt showing up correctly can anyone help?
[02:36] <Inumedia> It uses a synaptic touchpad which is recognized correctly.
[02:37] <lucas_> Kijitsu: I got it a year ago. Advanced Formatting was in his early stages. Anyway... Another thing you could do is to boot your comp using windows 7 DVD. At the setup you can ask to format the drives. WD says that win7 doesn't need any stuff like aligning utilities
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: try turning off tap to click, may help
[02:38] <Inumedia> But what does that have to do with the cursor movement?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: also can you pastebin the output of:  lsmod
[02:38] <Kijutsu> lucas_: Love to... 'cept its running on a PPC, and I don't have any PCs that will boot Windows 7 properly because of anceitny hardware
[02:38] <yuskhanzab> hello all, is there any winamp ver. for ubuntu?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: it may affect it, its a quick thing to test
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> !winamp | yuskhanzab
[02:38] <Inumedia> k, one second
[02:38] <Inumedia> Doesn't seem to effect it
[02:38] <yuskhanzab> audacious
[02:38] <yuskhanzab> yeah thanks
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: ok cool, can you run: lsmod    and give the output
[02:39] <Inumedia> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/uSRfatT7
[02:39] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: how to add app on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[02:39] <lucas_> Kijutsu: oups... Then I would go with a live cd from Natty Beta2. Or just wait 'till 28th when the official release comes out. From the live cd you can use gparted
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: how do you mean?
[02:40] <yuskhanzab> ubottu, is there skin so that i can change looks like the winamp in windows?
[02:40] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: i want to use the lastest pack of cacti on my ubuntu, from launchpad
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: try:   options psmouse proto=imps    or     options psmouse proto=bare       in /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: then add the ppa
[02:41] <Inumedia> One second.
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: you can then run: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[02:41] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: how to ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cacti
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: try them individually :)
[02:42] <Inumedia> I'm not finding psmouse.conf
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: which release are you using?
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: you won't you make the file
[02:42] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: 10.04 ubuntuserver
[02:42] <Inumedia> Okay, one second.
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: those files add extra options to the modules when you load them
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: some weird hardware needs extra options to work nice
[02:44] <Inumedia> Hold on
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: the version listed there is the one in the lucid repos
[02:44] <Inumedia> Should I restart anything upon creating+editing psmouse.conf?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: run: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[02:45] <Inumedia> My touchpad doesn't work anymore D;
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: if it doesn't work, re-edit the file and retry the other option I gave (delete the old text first)
[02:47] <Inumedia> Touchpad still not working
[02:47] <Teeko> hi
[02:47] <Inumedia> Oh wait
[02:47] <Inumedia> It works now
[02:47] <Teeko> anyone not busy wanna lend me a hand? :P
[02:47] <Inumedia> And seems to be at the correct aspect ratio? =o
[02:48] <Inumedia> Seems to be slow as shit too, but it's at the same aspect ratio now
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: so the option you used was necessary for your hadware
[02:48] <Inumedia> But now touchpad is gone from Mouse Preferences and it's really slow
[02:48] <Teeko> hm i keep getting an error when trying to install ubuntu alongside windows
[02:48] <Teeko> there a problem with it in win7 on AMD or something?
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: look for other options you can add to the module, one may make it nice
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: you may also be able to simply increase the mouse speed in the mouse settings to make up for the slowness
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: how did you kick off the install?
[02:49] <Teeko> the wubi.exe file
[02:49] <gaelfx> I'm trying to buy a USB3.0 card, but I'm not sure if it needs to have a power connector to function fully or not. My options are a card that has a power connector and one that doesn't, which one should I get?
[02:49] <Teeko> it didnt autorun :/
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: ok what issue are you having?
[02:50] <Teeko> just says it has an error and it wrote it to a .log file, i looked at the file, but tbh its all greek to me.
[02:50] <lxd> hello
[02:50] <Teeko> when installing, it just stops and doesnt install, says it has an error and wrote to the .log file
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: if you use win7 to resize its own partition and install ubuntu to the free space you will have fewer issues
[02:51] <Teeko> i just wanna test it out tbh
[02:51] <Teeko> i havent used ubuntu in a looong time
[02:51]  * KM0201 agrees w/ ActionParsnip if you've got WIn 7 or Vista, use it to partition the drive.
[02:51] <Teeko> prolly gonna install it on my other computer but wanted to test it
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: then you could download the install ISO, MD5 test it and use a virtual system in virtualbox for example
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> I just backed up 896GB of files from a ext4 filesystem to a NTFS filesystem   and the  output of df -h, reports 1 GB differance. Is that due to rounding/blocksize/filesystem differances most likely?
[02:51] <wizo> can someone help me debug why my document root doesnt seem to work after following the docs here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Virtual%20Hosts
[02:51] <Inumedia> ActionParsnip: Do you have a list of options for psmouse?
[02:52] <Teeko> i have the instal ISO, and put it on a disc. thats what im running this from
[02:52] <Inumedia> I need to increase the sensitivity substantially :P
[02:52] <KM0201> Teeko, so whatrs the problem?
[02:52] <Inumedia> And get my scrolling back
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: i just websearched and found those, the proto=imps one is good for sony viaos I have noticed
[02:52] <Teeko> ok one sec lemme make it do it again :P
[02:52] <Inumedia> It seems to work with both imps and bare
[02:53] <Teeko> ok ran the wubi.exe file from the install CD
[02:53] <Teeko> create username/password
[02:53] <Teeko> it starts extracting
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[02:54] <Teeko> MD5 test?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Teeko
[02:54] <SpyvsSpy> hi where do usb thumbdrives mount to in ubuntu?
[02:54] <SpyvsSpy> is it /media/usb?
[02:54] <Teeko> its on a DVD fresh iso created and burned to it
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> SpyvsSpy: run:  mount   it will tel you
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: doesn't matter, did you test the ISO?
[02:55] <SpyvsSpy> im away from my ubuntu box
[02:55] <Teeko> no i didnt test, lemme read that page and test it.
[02:55] <SpyvsSpy> and Im writing a script, and I cant remeber where it mounts
[02:55] <manekineko_> I've got an ext2 loop image file, and I want to use it to recreate a partition without any permissions or other strange problems, what's the easiest way I could do so?
[02:55] <chr0n0> been a while since I was in, but I have always liked the name ActionParsnip  lol
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: then you have no way of knowing if the data you are using is complete or error free
[02:56] <manekineko_> if I just mount the file, and copy using nautilus are there any foreseeable problems?
[02:56] <Aamir> common/packet.cc:44: error: conflicting declaration ŌĆśchar** p_info::name_ŌĆÖ
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  you want to copy all files from the loop image, to a real filesystem/drive. the cp command with proper arguments can do that.
[02:57] <Aamir> i am getting these errors while installing mac 802.16 in ns2
[02:57] <Aamir> common/packet.cc:44: error: conflicting declaration ŌĆśchar** p_info::name_ŌĆÖ
[02:57] <manekineko_> Dr_Willis: so if I do a recursive cp as root, are there any foreseeable problems with permissions or anything?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  mount it via mount  with the loop option. (sounds like you did that) then use sudo cp  with the proper arguments. I cant recall what ones to use. or use tar and the proper arguments to copy the files.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  you need more then just 'cp' i recall.
[02:58] <trist> hey guys im back work perfectly
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  theres a 'keep permissions/owner' option
[02:58] <trist> thanks now all i need to do is get y wifi working
[02:58] <manekineko_> oh interesting, I'll look at the man page for cp
[02:58] <Teeko> ok i did the md5 test
[02:58] <Teeko> says checksums are different
[02:58] <tjiggi_fo> SpyvsSpy, I'm on 10.04 and mine mounts to /media/name_of_USB
[02:58] <KM0201> Teeko, also, stop messing w/ Wubi.. if you want to install Linux, partition your drive and do it right.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> manekineko_:  i recall tar also being used for this.
[02:58] <chr0n0> i got a simple question here, or so I would imagine...I was the only user on my box til recently, and I went to add a user.  When I log in, all of my drives are mounted, or at least available to be mounted from the places menu.  When the new user logs in, only two of the 4 mounts are available to her.  The drive partition in question is ntfs.  Is this just super easy?  I don't know if I am wording it very well for google.  :)
[02:59] <Teeko> im not installing on this computer, just wanna get a feel for it before i install it on my other computer
[02:59] <SpyvsSpy> thanks
[02:59] <hiexpo> nvidia did a spectacular job on the new driver  amazing
[02:59] <KM0201> Teeko, so boot the live CD.. thats what tis for.
[02:59] <RandomUser128> hiexpo, you must be joking!? their drivers are always awful...
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: then the image you used is bad
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: you need to redownload and re-test
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> chr0n0:  the ntfs-config tool can set up ntfs filesystems where all users can access them fully.  but last i used the tool it was a little flakey. it would work.but crash on exit)
[02:59] <Teeko> i run a teamspeak server and a website from that computer and i wanted to just see how ubuntu is nowadays before i install it on there
[03:00] <Inumedia> ActionParsnip: Do you know where I can find some information on /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf?
[03:00] <Teeko> thanks action. lemme see how that works
[03:00] <KM0201> Teeko, but beyond that, if the md5's don't match, the ISO is bad, download again... but se.rious.. don't do wubi
[03:00] <trist> i have an 802.11 wirless lan card by railink anyone help me with drivers
[03:00] <hiexpo> RandomUser128, no i am not i was in shock also  and it is fast
[03:00] <KM0201> Teeko, ok.. u've been warned
[03:00] <Inumedia> Or would that not be the correct area to fix my verticle/horizontal scroll + readding it to the mouse preferences
[03:00] <Teeko> lol
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: it's not the filename you need to worry about. You can call it ANYTHING you want, as long as it ends in .conf
[03:00] <Teeko> i dont plan on using ubunto on this comp for long
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> Inumedia: look for options on the psmouse module
[03:00] <Teeko> just for the other comp permanently
[03:00]  * KM0201 sits on hands.. won't waste the energy..
[03:01] <chr0n0> Dr_Willis: I just got an application called  Storage Device Manager, is it anything like that?
[03:01] <Inumedia> Okay thanks.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: you need to redownload the image, I suggest you use torrents
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> chr0n0:  ntfs-config is not installed byt default i recall
[03:01] <RandomUser128> I made the switch to ubuntu a few months back, and I haven't looked back since Teeko
[03:01] <Teeko> otherwise i would just install it in a new partition and get rid of windows
[03:01] <RandomUser128> you gotta give it a chance :)
[03:01] <Teeko> yeah but linux cant run the like only game i play online
[03:01] <KM0201> Teeko, thats a recipe for disaster..
[03:01] <Teeko> i play one game, and it cant run it.
[03:01] <KM0201> (nuking windows right fof the bat)
[03:02] <trist> i have an 802.11 wirless lan card by railink anyone help me with drivers
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> trist: what chip does it use?
[03:02] <trist> no idea how can i find out
[03:02] <Ky|e> is it usb?
[03:02] <Ky|e> lsusb
[03:03] <trist> no its built into my desktop
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> trist: sudo lshw -C network
[03:03] <chr0n0> try lspce kyle
[03:03] <trist> i have a hp touchsmart 1060a
[03:03] <chr0n0> er lspci
[03:03] <top_ramen> quick question about 10.10 and 11.4
[03:03] <zebastianortis> I have a laser card for my camera which all of a sudden ahs turned read only and i need to erase the files/format it, how can i do this?
[03:03] <chr0n0> ... trist, try lspci in terminal
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> trist: the output will give a product line, use it to find guides
[03:04] <zebastianortis> when i try to do this as superuser it says read only system
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> trist: also run: rfkill list    to make sure its not blocked
[03:04] <trist> thanks guys
[03:04] <Ky|e> thanx ChronicSyncope
[03:04] <Ky|e> mt
[03:04] <Ky|e> chr0n0
[03:05] <lxd> ?
[03:05] <lxd> ?
[03:05] <wizo> O.O
[03:05] <lxd> 0.0
[03:05] <lxd> ?
[03:05] <top_ramen> would by ubuntu unleashed book that covers 10.4 have the same cmd and what not for 10.10 and 11.4??
[03:06] <top_ramen> my*
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> top_ramen: pretty much
[03:06] <escott> top_ramen, the main differences in 11.04 are the gui
[03:06] <top_ramen> just a different gui
[03:06] <top_ramen> right
[03:06] <top_ramen> so the terminal cmd are the the same
[03:07] <top_ramen> its been since 10.4 since i played with ubuntu.... NEED to get back into it
[03:07] <top_ramen> I left beause there was no support for my digitizer pen software..... run it on a tablet PC
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> top_ramen: yeah the commands will be extremely similar if not identical
[03:09] <top_ramen> do you know if there is support for a tablet pc digitizer pen in the new 10.10 or 11.4
[03:09] <escott> top_ramen, google for your pen brand
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> top_ramen: or run livecd and test
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> top_ramen: if its usb based then run:  lsusb   and websearch for the usb ID (8 character hex id)
[03:11] <Inumedia> Okay.  I'm going to make a 5$ bet that I'm going to have to remove what I just did from xorg.conf.  Now to reboot and test it out. =D
[03:14] <yudi> dsf sa f
[03:15] <yudi> õĮĀÕźĮ
[03:15] <MrSamy> So, who else is looking forward to natty? :P
[03:15] <wizo> do I have to add a ServerName in my apache site-enabled file?
[03:16] <rww> MrSamy: everyone in #ubuntu-release-party ;)
[03:17] <kaattaa> is anyone familiar with lubuntu and composite managers?
[03:20] <titizinho> Hie
[03:20] <titizinho> Do you my love?
[03:20] <titizinho> quit
[03:20] <titizinho> Client Quit
[03:21] <rww> what
[03:21] <Teeko> why would the iso file from ubuntu.com have the wrong checksum? was it just a fluke in the actual download of the file?
[03:21] <rww> Teeko: Yup. Something went wrong between the Ubuntu download servers and you. Generally, it's on your end ;)
[03:21] <rww> I use Bittorrent, since it automatically checks each bit of the ISO file.
[03:21] <Teeko> lol my internets funny sometimes, so not really suprising
[03:21] <Logan_> !lubuntu | kaattaa
[03:21] <Teeko> yeah thats what i just did when they told me about it
[03:22] <Teeko> they should have more download options listed, you have to kinda search for the torrents and additional download places
[03:22] <Bullterd> Evening All.
[03:23] <Teeko> sad thing is i didnt know about the md5check so i wasted a DVD lol. thats the worst part of the failed iso :(
[03:23] <Bullterd> If I have a log file for a vhost setup as /var/www/domain.name/stats/access_log
[03:23] <Bullterd> how would I go about tail'ing all access_log files?
[03:23] <leapy0yo> is there a log of everything in /var/log?
[03:23] <Bullterd> I tried tail -f /var/www/vhosts/*/stats/access_log but that didnt work :(
[03:23] <escott> Bullterd, tail -f
[03:23] <kaattaa> Logan_, it would be helpful info u just gave me if anyone was awake at #lubuntu... cuz i asked there first about 45 min ago
[03:24] <escott> Bullterd, there may be a multitail or try screen with multiple tails
[03:26] <Teeko> damn autoplay sucks
[03:29] <quiescens> Bullterd: tail -f (file) -f (file) probably works, otherwise apt-get install multitail like escott suggested
[03:31] <Teeko> yay worked that time
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: funny how Md5 testing shows bad images eh
[03:32] <tbruff13> Hey does any one know how to get rid of the wine menu after uninstalling win
[03:32] <tbruff13> wine
[03:33] <hiexpo> hola ActionParsnip
[03:34] <escott> Bullterd, vaguely remember an mtail as well
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> howdy hiexpo
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: you can disable it in alacarte
[03:35] <tbruff13> ok figured it out ActionParsnip  I do have another question though I use ffmpeg to convert things to mp3 but ogg wont work i assume that is because ubuntu uses an outdated version of ffmpeg can you help install one that can covert to ogg
[03:37] <geegeegee> ok guys, i did chmod 555 /* and now it wont boot
[03:37] <escott> tbruff13, or just convert ogg to wav and use that
[03:37] <tbruff13> escott, ogg is the format I want to convert to
[03:38] <escott> geegeegee, boot your install disk and fix
[03:38] <geegeegee> ok, i presumei just do chmod 777 /* to /*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*
[03:38] <geegeegee> ?
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: so you want to convert from mp3 to ogg?
[03:39] <escott> geegeegee, 777 is not the right permission 755
[03:39] <escott> geegeegee, unless you did a chmod -R which would not be good
[03:39] <tbruff13> escott, my version of ffmpeg mp4 to ogg my version of ffmpeg has never heard of ogg I am using the frontend Winff
[03:39] <orighost> dose ogg is free?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> orighost: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:42] <tbruff13> I am trying to use the program Winff to covert an mp4 file to an ogg file the program winff uses ffmpeg to do the converting
[03:42] <Teeko> ok wtf install wubi and restart, and no links to open it at all?
[03:43] <escott> tbruff13, do ffmpeg to extract to wav then use ogg123 to make the ogg
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> !info soundconverter
[03:44] <tbruff13> escott, huh I am using winff to do this there is no ogg123 just ogg
[03:44] <hiexpo> tbruff13, you using 10.04 ubuntu ?
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> tbruff13: ffmpeg -i input.m4a -acodec vorbis -aq 60 -vn -ac 2 output.ogg
[03:44] <tbruff13> no ubuntu 10.10
[03:45] <escott> tbruff13, ogg123 is the standard ogg encoder
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> escott: says who?
[03:45] <tbruff13> escott ok how would i set up winff to do this can you get the program and explain it i know its alot of work but please
[03:46] <escott> tbruff13, ActionParsnip don't know winff sorry, but I know there is an ogg123 that will encode wav to ogg
[03:46] <hiexpo> tbruff13, he just gave you thecommand to do it in the termina l
[03:46] <Teeko> does anyone know if theres a way to connect remotely to a linux computer from a windows computer? like RDP would from windows to windows
[03:47] <smw> Teeko, ssh, rdesktop, vnc
[03:47] <smw> Teeko, you have option
[03:47] <smw> options*
[03:47] <Teeko> need something pretty basic, just gotta be able to control it without it being super laggy
[03:47] <tbruff13> hiexpo, ok nevermind ill just use mp3 any way do you guys know anything about rockbox the mp3 software
[03:48] <hiexpo> tbruff13, no i don't know anything about rockbox myself
[03:48] <jhjessup> Teeko: Look at VNC.
[03:48] <tbruff13> ok im out sorry
[03:49] <Teeko> think VNC would be the best option?
[03:49] <jhjessup> Teeko: Probably. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-remote-desktop-builtin-vnc-compatible-dead-easy/
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: there is no best, depends on needs
[03:50] <Teeko> heh thats awesome, thanks alot.
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Teeko: don't vnc over www without an ssh tunnel
[03:51] <Teeko> ok that made no sense
[03:51] <Teeko> sorry. lol
[03:51] <Teeko> whats an SSH tunnel?
[03:53] <RJ_F1> Hey, I'm a registered user, but I was directed to the unregistered channel and requested to do a spambot-check?
[03:53] <RJ_F1> It also states I was not registered?
[03:53] <RJ_F1> What gives?
[03:53] <smw> RJ_F1, you may not have been registered at the time
[03:54] <_jesse_> RJ_F1: maybe you joined before it recognized you were registered
[03:54] <smw> RJ_F1, when you first login there is some delay
[03:54] <bastidrazor> ActionParsnip: you use unbound and dnsmasq, if my memory serves me right.. on the box with the unbound server do you also use dsnmasq for caching? my unbound server is on an actual server
[03:54] <jhjessup> Teeko: VNC connections aren't protected with strong enctryption, so it's possible for a third party to intercept VNC communications. Consequently, if you're using VNC on a network with untrusted users (i.e., the internet instead of your home network) you should run it through an encrypted tunnel, like SSH.
[03:54] <smw> RJ_F1, put nick:pass as the irc server password and this would be unlikely to happen
[03:55] <leapy0yo> hi
[03:55] <Teeko> jhjessup, i get that actually :P but i still have absolutely no idea what an SSH tunnel is or how to set one up
[03:55] <ebiester> So, I did an upgrade a few days ago, and I just tried to boot back into Windows 7, and the option is gone. os-loader doesn't seem to be picking up the partition now, instead picking up a weird vista psuedo-partition that just reboots. Could somebody /msg me their Win7 info from grub so I can make  a custom loader until I can figure out what's going on?
[03:56] <RJ_F1> ebiester:How many partitions do u have
[03:56] <smw> Teeko, ssh is the best way to remotely control a linux computer but I am not sure if you can do x forwarding over it.
[03:56] <jhjessup> Teeko: Got it. A good overview article is at http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/21/how-to-ssh-tunnels-for-secure-network-access/
[03:56] <smw> Teeko, what do you plan to do with this?
[03:56] <smw> Teeko, why do you need this as that may change what I suggest you do.
[03:57] <ebiester> Rj_F1: 6. 2 linux, 4 windows, and two of those are funky things Asus did.
[03:57] <chaorain> Hey quick question. What partition type is best for videos? (Not Recordings) I'm using Mythtv
[03:58] <Teeko> oh um
[03:58] <Teeko> i just need to be able to control that computer from anywhere
[03:58] <Teeko> when im away from my house, i need to be able to access it
[03:58] <smw> Teeko, define control...
[03:58] <Teeko> use it as i was sitting right in front of it
[03:58] <smw> Teeko, do you want to access files? Run local programs? Take over the whole desktop?
[03:58] <Teeko> not just use the files
[03:58] <Teeko> take over the desktop
[03:59] <Teeko> i use remote desktop on windows now, but im trying to find things out before i set that computer up with linux, so i know what im doing atleast halfheartedly
[03:59] <smw> Teeko, in that case VNC and rdesktop are your only options
[03:59] <Teeko> which would be faster?
[03:59] <Teeko> i dont need many features, but speed is important
[04:00] <escott> chaorain, something with extents ext4/btrfs/xfs/zfs
[04:00] <smw> Teeko, I don't know. I use ssh to do remote connections...
[04:00] <Teeko> ok well what does ssh do?
[04:00] <jhjessup> Teeko: I haven't used it, but a couple of my friends really like teamviewer. http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/index.aspx
[04:00] <MaRk-I> !vnc | Teeko
[04:00] <Teeko> er, whats the difference
[04:01] <RJ_F1> hey, what's it mean, connection reset by peer?
[04:01] <smw> Teeko, ssh gives you a command line prompt. If you use X forwarding. You can run remote programs very fast.
[04:01] <leapy0yo> does the 64bit of ubuntu have more problems than the 32 bit one? does it take more resources or is it supposed to run faster? becasue my refresh rate is not great I get tears now I got this version
[04:01] <smw> Teeko, the remote program only shows up on the computer you are on and not the computer the program is actually running on
[04:01] <escott> Teeko, ssh and X would be the linux standard way, but would not allow you to take over an existing desktop
[04:01] <smw> Teeko, it also provides file access
[04:02] <Sasquatch7> Hi all
[04:02] <escott> Teeko, so if you turn the computer on, and log on, you cant use ssh with X forwarding to grab that session. VNC or remote desktop would allow you to take that session
[04:02] <smw> Hi Sasquatch7
[04:02] <Sasquatch7> I'm tempted to install the new 11.04 beta and then upgrade to the final on it's release day...or is it better to just wait for the final release to install?
[04:03] <smw> Sasquatch7, truthfully, I would wait a couple of weeks after to install.
[04:03] <Sasquatch7> smw: Really, a couple weeks? Why so?
[04:03] <RJ_F1> There's only like 4 days left or something
[04:03] <smw> Sasquatch7, the new one is probably a little buggy. They always rush.
[04:03] <smw> Sasquatch7, they feel a need to adhere to the 6month timeline... always
[04:04] <leapy0yo> does ubuntu 64 have more issues and problems whereas ubuntu 32 does not have those problems?
[04:04] <smw> Sasquatch7, not to mention the fact that the mirrors get loaded down and you can't install packages
[04:04] <Sasquatch7> smw: Oh ok, thanks. What version are you using currently?
[04:04] <escott> leapy0yo, the main 64 bit issues are with stuff like flash where the vendor has not provided a 32 bit version. most issues are pretty well ironed out though
[04:04] <smw> Sasquatch7, 10.10
[04:04] <POOPHAMMER> question about installing via wubi: i have rebooted out of windows and started the installer, but is has been hanging for about 40 minutes on configuring hardware, is this normal?
[04:05] <POOPHAMMER> amd X2 600+ 3 gb of ram if that helps
[04:05] <smw> Sasquatch7, whatever the last release is
[04:05] <POOPHAMMER> *6000+
[04:05] <Sasquatch7> smw: Oh ok, and is it alright to do an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 or is it better to do a fresh install?
[04:06] <smw> Sasquatch7, depends on who you talk to. I don't trust upgrades and do a fresh install. Most people don't and seem to be fine.
[04:06] <YankDownUnder> What's wrong with doing an upgrade?
[04:06] <Sasquatch7> smw: that's what Ive heard too.
[04:06] <_jesse_> leapy0yo: not that I know of, 64bit runs fine for me
[04:06] <Sasquatch7> YankDownUnder: Yea that's what I'm questioning :)
[04:06] <YankDownUnder> Most of the time, an upgrade merely mucks up customisations - and/or programs you've compiled on your own...otherwise, it's not a bad means by which to move upwards...
[04:06] <smw> Sasquatch7, the party line is that they are perfectly fine. I had issues (years ago) because I tried to update when the repos were overloaded.
[04:06] <POOPHAMMER> i am also kinda afraid to reboot out of this installer to prevent file system damage
[04:07] <smw> Sasquatch7, since then I have used it as a perfect time to cleanse my system of all the mistakes I have made.
[04:07] <tripelb> anyone know how to do a bulletpoint with a simple solid circle (vanilla) in abiword (there's no abiword channel)
[04:07] <YankDownUnder> Sasquatch7, If you're doing a minor upgrade (single version upwards) you should be right as rain. if you're trying to do something like upgrade from 9.10 or something like that, well, expect major issues...
[04:07] <Sasquatch7> smw: Ha good thinking.
[04:07] <leapy0yo> i686 is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[04:08] <jhjessup> leapy0yo: 32-bit.
[04:08] <rww> leapy0yo: 32-bit
[04:08] <Sasquatch7> YankDownUnder: Oh ok, no it will probably be an upgrade from the beta to 11.04...I'm currently using Win7 :)
[04:08] <YankDownUnder> I'm waiting for 72-bit desktop edition. Cuz it's 8 more than 64!
[04:08] <YankDownUnder> Sasquatch7, Windows 7? Sorry about that. :)
[04:08] <RJ_F1> Lol. how about 128-bit processors, anyone want one, I got a nice hookup
[04:08] <smw> YankDownUnder, actually they go by powers of two. I am waiting for 256bit personally
[04:08] <RJ_F1> Octa-core 128bit processor.
[04:09] <POOPHAMMER> :/ anyone?
[04:09] <Sasquatch7> YankDownUnder: haha, it's not too bad...but dying to get back into ubuntu
[04:09] <sunxiaojian> hah
[04:09] <YankDownUnder> POOPHAMMER, Obviously you're having an issue - having repeated yourself several times. What's the issue?
[04:10] <smw> POOPHAMMER, many people here don't know wubi
[04:10] <RJ_F1> Oh, hey, I can help
[04:10] <Teeko> or like it, ive learned :p
[04:10] <YankDownUnder> Wubi? Nah - not me.
[04:10] <Teeko> my wubi just didnt work
[04:10] <Sasquatch7> me no like wubi
[04:10] <odst0016> wubi gave me issues
[04:10] <Teeko> installed it, and it had no links to start, couldnt find an exe file, etc etc
[04:10] <POOPHAMMER> well i am just wondering if it is typical for it to hang on the configuring hardware part for about an hour now
[04:10] <YankDownUnder> I prefer wasabi.
[04:10] <smw> POOPHAMMER, wubi is most often used by people who are new to ubuntu or who are developing wubi.
[04:10] <RJ_F1> mine sort of worked.. Separate partiion is better
[04:11] <Sasquatch7> POOPHAMMER: No, that is probably not normal at all.
[04:11] <RJ_F1> and no. it is not typical.
[04:11] <POOPHAMMER> well i had a disaster with GRUB when i tried to make a partition
[04:11] <RJ_F1> yeah, that happens too.
[04:11] <POOPHAMMER> so i didnt want to do that again
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> POOPHAMMER, 1.) you're running under Windows; HAL is a confusing bit in the best of times, so why even bother?
[04:11] <smw> POOPHAMMER, the people who are new to ubuntu are rarely able to help others so it is very hard to get support for wubi in irc.
[04:11] <RJ_F1> Yank: HAL 2000???
[04:11] <YankDownUnder> Hard to get support for Wubi from folks that don't run Windows...(for a long long time)
[04:11] <rww> YankDownUnder: Wubi doesn't run Ubuntu under Windows, it runs Ubuntu from a loopback partition on an NTFS filesystem using the Windows bootloader.
[04:12] <rww> Windows is not running when Ubuntu is ;P
[04:12] <YankDownUnder> HAL...hehehehehehe
[04:12] <rww> also, HAL is deprecated in current versions of Ubuntu
[04:12] <RJ_F1> Hardware abstraction is lame.
[04:12] <YankDownUnder> rww, Thanks, learn something new every day. I don't do Windows here - and my clients I migrate to either Ubuntu or MacOSX...ergo, I don't do Windows.
[04:12] <rww> I don't do Wubi, personally. I just know how it works ;)
[04:13] <odst0016> the only reason i have windows on my laptop is my intel integrated hd graphics card must be able to play games and thats the only way i know how
[04:13] <POOPHAMMER> idk about doing a partition again, GRUB really messed me up last time
[04:13] <smw> rww, I think wubi was a horrible mistake because it makes support impossible. Anyone who normally helps has never used it
[04:13] <YankDownUnder> I've my preferences for backing up the entire disk, repartitioning as per MY desires, THEN using a nice liveCD or liveUSB to do my installations...
[04:13] <POOPHAMMER> wiped out my windows boot and had to reinstall
[04:14] <escott> POOPHAMMER, i've never had that problem with grub, we can take you through a normal install
[04:14] <POOPHAMMER> i think i am just going to try to repartition
[04:14] <POOPHAMMER> and do a normal install and try my luck
[04:14] <Sasquatch7> Is software similar to Xming on Windows needed in Linux? Or what is it's equivalent?
[04:14] <odst0016> why not just shrink your drive through windows
[04:14] <POOPHAMMER> last time was with Debian so maybe Ubuntu wont mess me up
[04:14] <Sasquatch7> POOPHAMMER: Good luck!
[04:15] <POOPHAMMER> i only did Debian because i am familiar with it through doing server stuffs via ssh so i thought i would like it for a desktop
[04:15] <POOPHAMMER> but not after that GRUB disaster
[04:15] <smw> Sasquatch7, Xming is a port of what is already on linux
[04:15] <Sasquatch7> smw: Ok, thanks.
[04:15] <POOPHAMMER> i might pop back in tomorrow when i do this, for now i am just going to shut down and go to bed
[04:15] <smw> Sasquatch7, Xming is the windows version of what linux uses for graphics. It comes with ubuntu desktop
[04:16] <POOPHAMMER> thanks anyway guys
[04:16] <Sasquatch7> smw: Xserver?
[04:16] <ahmedhelal> hello, am trying to install a driver for my clickpad on hp envy 15: using the fix in here : http://linuxenvy.blogspot.com/2011/01/touchpad-fixed.html    however am getting an error when installing the deb file : http://pastebin.com/NYTuXzXP , any idea ?
[04:16] <smw> Sasquatch7, correct. All linux DESKTOPS have X installed.
[04:17] <Sasquatch7> smw: Thanks :)
[04:17] <Tremwar> so do macs... but it's just not the same...
[04:17] <Tremwar> I take that back, it's an optional install on macs...
[04:18] <escott> ahmedhelal, why are you running a pae kernel for an envy?
[04:18] <Tremwar> I thought the pae kernel was for more than 3Gigs of memory
[04:18] <ahmedhelal> escott: i just installed ubuntu from original iso
[04:19] <ahmedhelal> i have 4gb of memory on that envy
[04:19] <escott> ahmedhelal, was it your intention not to run 64bit or just accidental
[04:19] <dr_Willis> i thought it was for 4+GB of ram.
[04:20] <escott> ahmedhelal, most people with core i-series are probably running 64bit
[04:20] <odst0016> i have i5 running 64bit
[04:20] <Tremwar> yeah, it's for goobers(like me) who installed the 32bit version on accident
[04:20] <ahmedhelal> escott: is this whats causing the problem anyway ?
[04:21] <Teeko> anyone know what the ubuntu remote desktop port is?
[04:21] <ahmedhelal> cause i just tried the natty 64bit version installation before this one and installion failed for same reason
[04:21] <Teeko> well what it defaults to atleast
[04:21] <escott> ahmedhelal, probably. the guy who made this deb probably made it for a 64bit kernel and never tested on 32bit
[04:21] <odst0016> what was the reason
[04:21] <Tremwar> yeah, if the driver is 64-bit then that's the problem
[04:21] <dr_Willis> teeko if its normal vnc ports its like 5900 +1 for each new instance/desktop
[04:21] <ahmedhelal> escott: i just tested it on 64bit kernel of natty warwhale and it failed for same error
[04:22] <escott> ahmedhelal, and really why buy a core i and not take advantage of the 64bit nature of it
[04:22] <Teeko> thanks willis
[04:22] <dr_Willis> teeko i hink thats the default vbnc pors.
[04:22] <dr_Willis> vnc ports
[04:22] <ahmedhelal> escott: i thougth the deb didnt run because of the 64bit version, so i installed my 10.10 32 bit for that
[04:22] <ahmedhelal> i can revert back to 64 but am more interested to get my clickpad working i really cant use the pc at all
[04:23] <odst0016> do you have a vaio
[04:23] <ahmedhelal> odst0016: its hp envy 15
[04:23] <escott> try and figure out what these people are running, if they are using 10.10 64bit which would be most common use that until upstream synaptics gets the required patches
[04:23] <fisix> does anybody know why i can't receive emoticons on pidgin? it appears as the red cross out sign (kinda like the non-smoking symbol) on a black rectangle
[04:23] <odst0016> ok i had the clickpad issue on my vaio until the .28 kernel i think
[04:24] <escott> its either that or figure out how to deal with kernel interface changes
[04:24] <ahmedhelal> escott: kernel interface changes .. i dont know even whats that lol
[04:25] <Tremwar> can you download the tar? you could see if there are any options on the ./configure...
[04:25] <escott> exactly my point :)
[04:25] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: there is only a .deb file no tar there
[04:25] <Tremwar> hmmmm... that sucks
[04:26] <Tremwar> I really hate driver issues...
[04:26] <theholder> Hi i am having issues with my Compaq Presario CQ61 my microphone is not working at all
[04:26] <escott> ahmedhelal, if i could only steal my girlfriends envy i would love to try this... but she won't let me touch it
[04:26] <theholder> but my output sound is working
[04:26] <ahmedhelal> escott: i really regret buying the envy
[04:26] <Tremwar> I think the whole world would have already switched to mac if it wasn't for drivers...
[04:26] <ahmedhelal> 100% regret, u shud see the bios on it
[04:26] <Tremwar> err switched to linux
[04:27] <ahmedhelal> 0 control !, the most editing u can do is boot order and system clock
[04:27] <Tremwar> eh, mac too
[04:27] <ahmedhelal> i was trying to install mac on my envy actually but failed
[04:27] <escott> it sure is pretty though
[04:27] <Tremwar> I'm running a dual boot MBP
[04:27] <ahmedhelal> i did on my desktop though, its pretty cool , right from retail disk
[04:27] <odst0016> im going to try to install mac on my vaio tomorrow for the fun of it
[04:27] <Tremwar> OS X and Ubuntu 10.10
[04:27] <odst0016> the only prob i should have is my graphics card
[04:28] <ahmedhelal> odst0016: ati ?
[04:28] <Tremwar> Ubuntu is pretty good with graphics cards...
[04:28] <Tremwar> I would be worried about wireless
[04:28] <hiexpo> Tremwar, what driver you trying to find >?
[04:28] <Tremwar> that's always my problem
[04:29] <Tremwar> I've given up for now, it's the same old broadcom mess...
[04:29] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: my wifi seems to be detected well, as i can see all wifi spots around me listed
[04:29] <Tremwar> It works, I just can't use it for Kismet... e.i no monitor mode
[04:29] <ahmedhelal> however i cant connect to any of them even unencrypted ones :S
[04:29] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: do u think its a driver issue too ?
[04:30] <Tremwar> it's a known issue for broadcom cards
[04:30] <ahmedhelal> i think its a broadcom yes
[04:30] <Tremwar> last computers I've had have had broadcom wifi...
[04:30] <ahmedhelal> any fixes ?
[04:30] <hiexpo> Tremwar, didyacheck aircrack's site
[04:31] <Tremwar> there are a few, but they very from site to site..
[04:31] <Tremwar> and it turned out to be such a iffy hack that I opted against it
[04:32] <Tremwar> it was a solution, followed by, and if that doesn't work.... and if that doesn't work... and if you are still having problems...
[04:32] <fisix> does anybody know why i can't receive emoticons on pidgin? it appears as the red cross out sign (kinda like the non-smoking symbol) on a black rectangle. from other users it just appears to me as plaintext
[04:32] <hiexpo> yep those are bad signs
[04:33] <hiexpo> fisix, cause the use a differant format
[04:33] <Tremwar> but the aircrack site has just about the best docs for such problems
[04:33] <escott> fisix, that is the missing icon icon
[04:33] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: NDISWRAPPER ?
[04:33] <escott> try to change the emoticon theme
[04:33] <Teeko> ironic eh
[04:33] <fisix> hiexpo, escott i'm dealing with custom emoticons in wlm i mean. not default ones, those transfer fine and appear as the pidgin defaults
[04:34] <aauthor> Would anyone know why I can't see the google-gadgets packets in synaptic even though it a listed package for natty?  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/294774
[04:34] <Bibs> pff
[04:34] <Tremwar> that was another option I rolled out of... performance problems and a proprietary driver... ugh... I was trying to use Linux to get away from proprietary, lol
[04:35] <Tremwar> I still use Linux on here some times... although I'm running OS X right now...
[04:36] <richar_> hy
[04:36] <escott> fisix, wlm? what is that
[04:36] <Dreki> anyone tried to run starcraft1 with wine recently? im having issues with it running slow.
[04:36] <Tremwar> MacBook Pro is cool and all... but it's probably gonna be my last...
[04:36] <fisix> escott, windows live messenger
[04:36] <rww> aauthor: please don't crosspost natty questions in #ubuntu
[04:36] <smw> Dreki, I have not tried recently
[04:36] <smw> Dreki, but it worked fine. Are you using the wine ppa?
[04:37] <aauthor> rww: Sorry I just wasn't getting a bite in #ubuntu+1.
[04:37] <Tremwar> OH God, what a terrible thing just happed to me...
[04:37] <escott> fisix, but icons are working for other chat protocols like google/jabber?
[04:37] <Tremwar> the knob on my microwave just got stuck and I burned the hell out of my pizza....
[04:37] <Dreki> smw just ubuntu repository.
[04:38] <Tremwar> *SOB*
[04:38] <dr_Willis> Oh the Humanity.. burnt pizas
[04:38] <smw> Dreki, I always use the wine ppa, it has the latest
[04:38] <Tremwar> it's not pizza anymore... it's coal...
[04:39] <mknarr> or is it a just add water  to make the pizza
[04:39] <Tremwar> ahhhh... sooo crunchy...
[04:40] <Guest41828> Hy My Nautilus on Compress not is possible compress with password, Why
[04:40] <Guest41828> Hy My Nautilus on Compress not is possible compress with password, Why
[04:41] <YankDownUnder> Don't flood.
[04:41] <Tremwar> ? Could you rephrase the question?
[04:41] <escott> he wants to create a password protected zip file
[04:41] <dr_Willis> clarify what you mean guest41828
[04:41] <escott> i think
[04:41] <Guest41828> Yes
[04:41] <Tremwar> ah
[04:42] <dr_Willis> I dont think that feautre is supported by the  archiver tools
[04:42] <escott> i would bet that password protection on zip is pretty week, but i dont know for sure
[04:42] <Guest41828> Stopped working by File Manager, this newly
[04:42] <escott> weak not week
[04:42] <Tremwar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60548
[04:43] <Guest41828> Via command line I found the correct syntax, Thanks
[04:43] <Tremwar> there you go...
[04:43] <hiexpo> i am getting these speeds but only getting 60kb's dont make since http://www.speedtest.net/result/1267283729.png
[04:43] <Tremwar> it's the -e option I thing
[04:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> Hey, can't get ubuntu to boot off of USB stick
[04:43] <Tremwar> BIOS
[04:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> bios reports "missing operating system"
[04:43] <Tremwar> check your BIOS boot order
[04:43] <dr_Willis> how did you make the stick spaz?
[04:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: "dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/stick"
[04:44] <dr_Willis> spax thats the problem then.. thats not how you do it
[04:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: heard that would be fine.
[04:45] <dr_Willis> spaz	 not for ubuntu iso . some disrtos can do it that way.. but not ubuntu
[04:45] <ahmedhelal> escott, Tremwar dep worked on 10.10 64bit flawlessly  , but now am not sure about updates, should i run system updates or that might break what i installed ?
[04:45] <dr_Willis> use  tool from pendrivelinux web site. or the usb-disk creator tool.
[04:45] <Tremwar> It shouldn't...
[04:46] <dr_Willis> or unetbootin, or any of  dozen other tools to do it :)
[04:46] <escott> ahmedhelal, you are probably ok as long as the kernel version doesn't change too much
[04:46] <marcio_> 88
[04:46] <ahmedhelal> you mean if i dont update from 10.10 to the kernel of 11.04 ?
[04:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: Ah, ok. Either way, my ultimate goal is to get slackware and win7 dual boot on my desktop, but neither want to boot off of CDs, and neither work on USB sticks either. Ubuntu LiveCD and Puppy Linux (cd or usb stick) work fine though
[04:46] <Tremwar> ahmedhelal, and if it does... you can select the other kernel on startup right?
[04:47] <escott> ahmedhelal, and you can always boot the old version. so stay on 2.6.36-whatever, and worry about natty
[04:47] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic - use  a tool from the pendrivelinux web site to make a bootable usb stick perhaps.
[04:48] <odst0016> so i played with natty for a day how is unity
[04:48] <escott> ahmedhelal, that was a wicked fast system install... how did you do it that fast
[04:48] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: I'm also wanting to double check that my CPU is 64bit, as I am 90% sure that it is, but if its not, I suppose that might be why things aren't installing (though  tried 32 bit slackware too but that didn't work either)
[04:48] <ahmedhelal> usb ;)
[04:48] <Maahes_> hey, how can I transfer the keyring of one user to another user?
[04:48] <hiexpo> i just did a slack the other day on a usb and it worked fine
[04:48] <Tremwar> it was the live cd right?
[04:48] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: yea
[04:48] <dr_Willis> 64 vs 32bit cpu shouldent matter
[04:48] <ahmedhelal> imaged to a fast usb 2  flash disk
[04:49] <Tremwar> yeah, live CD install are quick, but there are plenty of updates you need
[04:49] <rww> odst0016: #ubuntu is for supported versions of Ubuntu only. Please use #ubuntu+1 for natty until it's released (probably on the 28th). Thanks!
[04:49] <Maahes_> 64bits totally matters, you get like twice as many bits! ;P
[04:49] <ahmedhelal> Tremwar: yeah :(
[04:49] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, cat /proc/cpuinfo once you boot
[04:49] <dr_Willis> bigger bits baby!
[04:49] <Tremwar> just take note of your current kernel version if everything is going well right now... so you can switch back to it if need be
[04:50] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: that doesn't matter for booting the CD for installing said operating system /loading the kernel in the case of the slackware disk?
[04:50] <dr_Willis> a 64bit cd wont work on a 32bit cpu.. but a 32bit os should work on any/either cpu..
[04:50] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, you should always be able to boot a 32bit install disk, but if you have a 64bit cd you probably want to install from a 64bit install disk
[04:51] <Tremwar> 32bit won't work on an 8bit :-P
[04:51] <Tremwar> lol
[04:51] <escott> Tremwar, so I can't install ubuntu on my comodore 64? :-P
[04:51] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: yeah, thats what I thought. So that my 64 bit win7 disk starts up fine means that it is 64 bit, but then chokes means that something else is acting up?
[04:52] <dr_Willis> could be you are just not making the boot sticks properly
[04:52] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, what kind of cpu do you have/how old is it
[04:52] <Spaz_Dynamic> also, crap, why did I boot the ubuntu cd for running cat /proc/cpuinfo ... I so could have booted puppy and it would have been done faster xD
[04:53] <dr_Willis> the bios settings should tell you the cpu :)
[04:53] <Spaz_Dynamic> escott: its a pentium 4 prescott something or other
[04:53] <vahnx> for running a minecraft server would i loose much performance with 10.10 x64 vs 10.10 x64 server edition
[04:53] <Tremwar> puppy is fast..
[04:53] <escott> pentium 4 is 32bit
[04:53] <dr_Willis> puppy is also annoying in ways. :)
[04:53] <hiexpo> i love puppy and also you can pull the cd or usb out and it runs in ram
[04:54] <dr_Willis> Pent 4 32bit - i do agree
[04:54] <Spaz_Dynamic> puppy is blazing, its what I use on my laptop. (part of why is cause I got tired of all the graphical errors in GNOME)
[04:54] <trihope> KM0201: How are you today?
[04:54] <vahnx> puppy has no x64 version though right?
[04:54] <vahnx> so stuck with low ram =(
[04:54] <Spaz_Dynamic> hiexpo: assuming you have enough xD if you have like 128 Meg, you're SoL
[04:54] <dr_Willis> the idea of 64bit puppy . is a little.. weird :)
[04:54] <Galaxor> Hi.  I'm trying to install djbdns.  I did apt-get install djbdns, but there is no /etc/init.d/djbdns.
[04:54] <Tremwar> yeah, puppy does get get it old really quick... but I honestly would never have used Linux if not for puppy...
[04:55] <hiexpo> Spaz_Dynamic, true
[04:55] <vahnx> does puppy see multiple cores?
[04:55] <vahnx> by defaul;t?
[04:55] <vahnx> no config
[04:55] <Galaxor> It also didn't install /etc/init.d/tinydns, etc.
[04:55] <Tremwar> can't remeber... I thought it did hyperthreading...
[04:55] <hiexpo> i don't know if it will boot with low ram cause it loads to ram first than boots
[04:55] <Galaxor> the debian package installs these files, but the ubuntu 10.04 version does not.
[04:56] <rww> Can you take this to #puppylinux, please :)
[04:56] <Spaz_Dynamic> alright, so what do you want to hear from cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[04:56] <Spaz_Dynamic> vahnx: yes, it does.
[04:56] <Tremwar> alright, enough about puppy, sorry rww
[04:57] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, what is the model name
[04:57] <Tremwar> here is a Ubuntu question I have...
[04:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> intel pentium 4
[04:58] <Tremwar> Ubuntu uses alot of python 2.x scripts correct?
[04:58] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, if thats all it says its 32bit
[04:58] <Spaz_Dynamic> and in the bios I have seen something about T64H something
[04:58] <Tremwar> what's the plan when a major movement towards Python 3.x is made, with the backwards comaptibility issues and all
[04:58] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, intel started getting really fancy with naming after the pentium
[04:59] <rww> Tremwar: port the scripts to Python 3
[05:00] <Tremwar> hmmm, ok, I was wondering if there were any consideration of porting to any other language or sticking with Python...
[05:00] <Inumedia> Who was the person who helped me fix my touchpad issues?  I need those two shell commands again.
[05:00] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, also you should not see an "lm" listed under flags for a 32bit processor
[05:00] <rww> Inumedia: ActionParsnip?
[05:01] <Tremwar> mac touchpad?
[05:01] <Inumedia> ActionParsnip: What were those two commands again?
[05:01] <Inumedia> Synaptic Touchpad
[05:01] <rww> 01:41:38 < ActionParsnip> Inumedia: you can then run: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[05:01] <Spaz_Dynamic> escott: how about I just look in the bios xD
[05:01] <Inumedia> Thank you rww.
[05:01] <Tremwar> rww(as for the Python question, I'm a die hard Ruby fan, I was just curious)
[05:01] <Spaz_Dynamic> in my bios, it says under processor info "64-bit technology = yes (Intel EM64T)"
[05:01] <Inumedia> Now I need to still figure out how to increase the speed + get my touchpad option back in the mouse settings. :P
[05:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> escott: does that change your mind? =P
[05:02] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, weird but it is a Pentium 4?
[05:02] <Spaz_Dynamic> It says it is, yes
[05:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> escott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_4 says that some of the p4's were 64bit
[05:03] <escott> Spaz_Dynamic, learn something every day :)
[05:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> lol
[05:04] <Spaz_Dynamic> yeah, its a socket 775, has hyper threading, is 2.8 Ghz
[05:05] <p1und3r> does anyone know if gtkmm is fully compatible with the new unity interface?
[05:05] <vahnx> i wonder if i can ever get used to unity :(
[05:05] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, I've basically the same setup, but a 3.0ghz; after experimentation, I've found that 32bit just works more smoothly on older P4 systems
[05:05] <p1und3r> i love unity vahnx
[05:05] <IanLiu> I was transferring a big file from my Desktop to an external HD and I accidentally unplugged it. Now it does not mount anymore. It is formated as NTFS. Is there a way to recover it?
[05:05] <vahnx> i cant stand it but maybe it will grow on me
[05:05] <vahnx> just seems like a step back
[05:05] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: ah, under which OS's?
[05:05] <YankDownUnder> vahnx, You can move to Gnome3, and then tweak it to be like 2.3
[05:06] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, I don't do Windows, so it's been Fedora and Ubuntu
[05:06] <vahnx> if they want to compete with iOS/Mac being all icon like, they should at least make it look better =p
[05:06] <dr_Willis> ianliu - you may want to have an actual windows macine scan/fix/repair the  filesystem
[05:06] <escott> IanLiu, you should boot windows and ask it to fix the disk errors
[05:06] <IanLiu> escott: I see. I will try that. Thanks!
[05:08] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: hmm, i'm wanting to do slackware and windows7
[05:09] <dr_Willis> you should be able to make a usb stick with grub2 that can boot a slackware iso. or use the pendrivelinux tools to make such a stick.
[05:11] <vahnx> be warned slackware default kernel does not support multiple cores
[05:11] <vahnx> install a diff kernel
[05:11] <Inumedia> Anyone recommend a client for MSN/Windows live?
[05:11] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: ah, yeah. vahnx: which kernel? and does that count hyper-threading too?
[05:11] <dr_Willis> !im
[05:11] <Inumedia> Other than Pidgin :P
[05:12] <vahnx> i dont know all i know is default didnt see my 4 cores
[05:12] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, Good luck on the Windows7 - still can't put a different set of pearls on the same old pig.
[05:12] <codex84> how would disable internet access on a another pc
[05:12] <codex84> on ur lan?
[05:12] <Spaz_Dynamic> vahnx: which kernel was that? And was that 32bit or 64bit?
[05:12] <vahnx> 32 bit default kernel in 31.1 whatever that was
[05:12] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: Yeah, well, there are some games that just don't play on linux, not even with wine.
[05:12] <vahnx> 13.1*
[05:13] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, Virtualbox.
[05:13] <Laibsch> how do I find out if an initrd has support for lvm?  I've recently run into trouble to boot my lucid machine.
[05:13] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, ....or Crossover Games for Linux
[05:13] <vahnx> slackware officially only has 32 bit i believe, for 64 bit theres branch offs
[05:13] <vahnx> like slamd64
[05:13] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: I've had major preformance issues using virtualbox, particularly since I'm then running two OS at the same time
[05:14] <hiexpo> nope slack has 32 and 64
[05:14] <telemarketer> hi all
[05:14] <ahmedhelal> Tristam: ok its not a broadcom card, its an intel one.. still cant connect to surrounding wifi spots though
[05:14] <vahnx> where is the 64 on their site?
[05:14] <Spaz_Dynamic> YankDownUnder: Whats the crossover thing? And does it support the newest .net frameworks? One of the games I have requires .net 4 I think
[05:14] <hiexpo> one seclet me see
[05:14] <sur> hello, how does the disk utility does "take ownership of the filesystem"? I do not see any related entry in /etc/fstab
[05:14] <ahmedhelal> escott:  my wifi turned out to be not a broadcom card, its an intel one.. still cant connect to surrounding wifi spots though
[05:14] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic what game?
[05:14] <Spaz_Dynamic> vahnx: go to get slack, and look under the 32 bit downloads
[05:15] <YankDownUnder> Spaz_Dynamic, http://www.codeweavers.com/
[05:15] <vahnx> download link only shows diff languages
[05:15] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: one I have in particular is Battlefield Badcompany 2
[05:15] <vahnx> ooh its down near the bottom
[05:15] <vahnx> must be new they didnt have 64 for the longest time
[05:16] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic - ive seen some games work without the .net stuff.  with differnt loader front ends. such as LOTRO
[05:16] <Spaz_Dynamic> vahnx: yeah, its on the news page for '09 I think
[05:16] <YankDownUnder> I've cheated on WINE a tad bit...not that it's hard to do...just have to have a copy of XP installed and floating around...
[05:17] <ugarich> i am sorry, but what channel for rus ubuntu users?
[05:17] <hiexpo> actually i think 32 bit runs better on a 64bit system
[05:17] <vahnx> i wish ubuntu would give the choice for firefox/chrome during install :D
[05:18] <judgex_> how do i disable the firewall in ubuntu?
[05:18] <dr_Willis> !firewall
[05:18] <izinucs> vahnx: there's not enough room on the cd.. they fight for every meg when putting it together..
[05:18] <cryptopsy> someone describe how i mount by the command line ntfs as read-write
[05:18] <escott> ahmedhelal, no experience with intel wifi
[05:18] <dr_Willis> theres no default firewall rules.  so by defult firewall is off
[05:18] <vahnx> ah i c.
[05:18] <allorder> gufw isnt enabled ?
[05:19] <izinucs> and ports are closed
[05:19] <judgex_> but when i go 'iptables -L' i see a lot of rules
[05:19] <dr_Willis> cryptopsy:  sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdXXX /Mountpoint
[05:19] <judgex_> and i have no idea where they came from...
[05:20] <cryptopsy> dr_Willis: doesn't work with mount?
[05:20] <dr_Willis> mount uses the same ntfs-3g stuff.. differnt route.. same end.
[05:20] <cryptopsy> so mount /dev/sdxxx /mountpoint should work?
[05:21] <dr_Willis> mount -t ntfs-3g  /dev/sdxxx /media/foo
[05:21] <cryptopsy> -t isn't necessary
[05:21] <dr_Willis> it pays to be exacting..
[05:22] <cryptopsy> no it doens't
[05:22] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: hey, uh, pendrivelinux is a windows exe >.>
[05:22] <dr_Willis> then go for it..
[05:22] <cryptopsy> -t isn't free
[05:22] <cryptopsy> stop recommeding these things to unsuspecting users
[05:22] <dr_Willis> spaz they have linux
[05:22] <dr_Willis> -t isent free? Huh?
[05:22] <cryptopsy> -t isn't free
[05:22] <vahnx> how much does -t cost?
[05:23] <cryptopsy> half a second and a micro increase to RSI
[05:23] <trihope> I'm a noob and need help with installing software of the internet. I am trying to download a usb indicator applet. I installed the .deb, but am not seeing it in the "Add to Panel" options.
[05:23] <ugarich_> ą╗čÄą┤ąĖ, ą░ ą║čéąŠ-ąĮąĖčéčī ą┐ąŠ-čĆčāčüčüą║ąĖ ą┐ąŠąĮąĖą╝ą░ąĄčé?
[05:23] <dr_Willis> almost as much time as youve wasted asking abou tit...
[05:23] <cryptopsy> no
[05:23] <cryptopsy> -t times 1000 times used, times 1000 users being inconvenianced
[05:24] <judgex_> dr_Willis, does moblock wipe out ubuntu's firewall configuration?
[05:24] <dr_Willis> judex_ no idea. never tried it.
[05:24] <judgex_> dr_Willis, okay
[05:24] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: where? o.o
[05:24] <cryptopsy> that's like recommended to use the force flag  because 'it pays to be exacting'
[05:24] <cryptopsy> how about learn what its for
[05:25] <vahnx> yay ubuntu finished installing with the updates.. time to setup minecraft server and go to bed!
[05:25] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic its there somewher. ive used it befor.
[05:25] <vahnx> stupid slackware
[05:25] <cryptopsy> ubuntu fanatic gets offended, resorts to name calling
[05:25]  * telemarketer is a slackware user :)
[05:25] <trihope>  I am trying to download a usb indicator applet. I installed the .deb, but am not seeing it in the "Add to Panel" options.
[05:25] <escott> trihope, use synaptic
[05:25] <telemarketer> if that's okay
[05:25] <cryptopsy> vahnx: hey did you know there's a free variant of minecraft written in C, its able to generate terrains much better
[05:25] <vahnx> oh noes slackwares still installed somehow =/ must format!
[05:26] <vahnx> cryptopsy: never heard of it. but all my freidns are on minecraft
[05:26] <cryptopsy> vahnx: its way better plus its free
[05:26] <vahnx> whats it called
[05:26] <cryptopsy> vahnx: also theres another version that costs 3 dollars thats much better, its a copycat but better
[05:26] <cryptopsy> vahnx: i don't know, i think that game is stupid and played it only once
[05:26] <vahnx> ah :D
[05:26] <cryptopsy> vahnx: i saw it on one guy's channel named 'godcraft'
[05:27] <cryptopsy> should be the most recent video or something
[05:27] <crum> hey
[05:27] <vahnx> well i know minecraft classic is free and way faster, but not as many features
[05:27] <cryptopsy> minecraft team is too busy trying to secure patents to care about updates
[05:27] <trihope> escott: I believe i installed it already (according to ubuntu software center) but I can't find it.
[05:27] <cryptopsy> no this isn't like the classic, its like the 10 dollar version
[05:27] <cryptopsy> it has picks and weapons
[05:27] <vahnx> anyone here have a good netflix recommendation before bed?
[05:27] <escott> trihope, what was it you installed?
[05:27] <bastidrazor> !offtopic
[05:27] <cryptopsy> watch 'glengarry glen ross' on netflix
[05:28] <vahnx> :O cover looks boring
[05:28] <trihope> escott: indicator-usb  an applet to safely remove usb
[05:28] <vahnx> pkpkpk
[05:28] <escott> trihope, a panel applet? and you are not running natty narwhal. you should be able to get it with a right click on the panel
[05:28] <trihope> yes, 10.10
[05:29] <vahnx> anyone play rs
[05:29] <cryptopsy> why do my ftp transfers freeze on files greater than 20M?
[05:29] <cryptopsy> they freeze on 100%
[05:29] <cryptopsy> it never moves on to the next file
[05:29] <judgex_> n ##OpenGL
[05:29] <trihope> escott: yeah, it's not showing up in the list. do I need to do some sort of restart for the program?
[05:29] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: Any suggestions for making w7 boot and install?
[05:29] <Maahes_> anyone know if there is a way to have another user use your keyring?
[05:29] <escott> trihope, you could try logging out and back in just in case
[05:29] <vahnx> anyone here play runescape?
[05:30] <ahmedhelal> hello in 10.10 after installing kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu, when kdm loads i end up with a console screen without a border or title bar, and nothing else loads.. any idea ? (clean installation)
[05:30] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic you mean make sa bootable usb from a win7 iso?
[05:30] <trihope> escott: will do
[05:30] <vahnx> they brought back the wilderness and PKing recently ima go pking instead of netflix
[05:30] <escott> trihope, if you are running kde or kubuntu then gnome panel applets wont work
[05:30] <Maahes_> basically I want all users on the machine to be able to use the same wireless password keyring.
[05:30] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: that would work. I can't get it to boot from the DVD for some reason.
[05:31] <trihope> escott: nope, gnome i'm pretty sure
[05:31] <dr_Willis> spaz_dynamic i would check in #windows. ive heard that you can dd the win7 iso to a flash and boot it.. but never tried.
[05:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> dr_Willis: correction, it boots, but it fails during the exact same part of installation
[05:31] <ahmedhelal> escott: any idea ?
[05:31] <escott> ahmedhelal, idea about what? sorry
[05:31] <ahmedhelal> escott: in 10.10 after installing kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu, when kdm loads i end up with a console screen without a border or title bar, and nothing else loads.. any idea ? (clean installation)
[05:32] <_vader89> is there a way to install ubuntu and then make it run the setup wizard on first boot? I would like to install ubuntu on a new computer, give it away and have the new owner choose locale and username on first boot.
[05:32] <dr_Willis> !oem
[05:32] <Telroth> Anyone know how to force-stop a raid array?
[05:32] <escott> ahmedhelal, do you mean console like kdm failed?
[05:32] <dr_Willis> i thought the OEM install optioon did that.
[05:32] <_vader89> perfect. thankyou
[05:32] <vahnx> why doesnt the default ubutnu come with gparted :(
[05:32] <Telroth> Namely, a mdadm array? `sudo mdadm --stop /dev/md127 --force` isn't working
[05:33] <vahnx> has it on the live disc but not once installed
[05:33] <ahmedhelal> escott: no, its Konsole, just a terminal open with kde background
[05:33] <hiexpo> the oem does