[23:36] <lex> zphinx: if your wanting to play with linux from windows, you could always try vmware, the applets are free
[23:36] <sudobash> sorry i didnt see you say 64
[23:36] <zphinx> Nice wording there.
[23:36] <lex> jonnymac: eh, where were we?
[23:36] <zphinx> I do have vmware, and i dont "play" with linux from windows.
[23:36] <sudobash> If you have Ubuntu AMD64 Flash doesn't natively work on the Ubuntu 64-bit edition
[23:36] <sudobash> but you can you a wrapper i think
[23:37] <jonnymac> I restarted the computer and a window came up saying that the expected screen wasn't found etc
[23:37] <IndyGunFreak> !flash64
[23:37] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[23:37] <lex> guess your not the only stoned one sudobash ;-p
[23:37] <sudobash> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[23:37] <sudobash> there is the 64bit flash plugin wrapper
[23:37] <jonnymac> is ther eanyway i can rerun a previous version of ubuntu, like before the last update?
[23:38] <sudobash> i swear... google is your friend.
[23:38] <lex> jonnymac: remember that second linux option on the GRUB; try loading that
[23:38] <jonnymac> have already tried that, it's just the same resolution
[23:38] <brambo> sudobash, ok i will try that new link you said
[23:38] <bluefoxx> ok, so i have this computer with three six gig drives in it, and i want to rename the extra two fujitsu and maxtor respectivly for /dev/hdd and /dev/hdb, how can i do this?
[23:38] <lex> isn't there also a really good post about using the wrapper for flash x64 on the fourms as well?
[23:39] <sudobash> or indygunfreak said:You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[23:39] <usser> brambo: flash is pretty easy in gutsy
[23:39] <usser> brambo: just apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:39] <lex> jonnymac: weird, so you can't change the resolution after you log in?
[23:39] <sudobash> yeah thats at the link i sent him usser...
[23:39] <sudobash> google is magic
[23:40] <jonnymac> nope, there's no drop down options
[23:40] <regeya> woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo
[23:40] <lex> jonnymac: eh, when you click system the menu doesn't show up?
[23:40] <SmashCat> Yay! Got my new network card working, and it only took 2 hours! Turns out that Ubuntu stores information about new network cards in some rules file. Every time a new card is added, OR a card is changed, the number is incremented, and the old, nonexistant hardware is left assigned to the old number. So as I'd tried several cards, my eth card was actually eth4 - even though there were no other cards in the machine. Great!
[23:40] <usser> sudobash: oh ok
[23:41] <NB2000> odd...
[23:41] <benpicco> some ideas about my drive-is-not-mounted problem?
[23:41] <Brad01> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop following these directons https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot
[23:41] <Brad01> I don't understand step 3
[23:41] <jonnymac> when I enter screen resolution it only offers me the one option 640x480
[23:42] <lex> jonnymac: go into the admin menu and open screens and graphics
[23:42] <sudobash> jonnymac you may need to edit your xorg config
[23:42] <SmashCat> Wish I'd known that, it would have saved a hell of a headache :-)
[23:42] <Jordan_U> sudobash, $nick =~ s/bash/ -s/            :)
[23:42] <IndyGunFreak> !res | jonnyboy37
[23:42] <ubotu> jonnyboy37: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:42] <Jordan_U> benpicco, How are you trying to mount it?
[23:42] <lex> we've done that with him guys
[23:42] <jonnymac> I've just done that and I didn't work
[23:42] <lex> we're one step away from editing his xorg manually
[23:42] <DB44> hmm.. my sound on my laptop doesn't seem to work.. how do i know if it's outputing via headphones or the speakers ?
[23:42] <Squawk_> Brad01, thats setting up your puter as a dhcp server (thats what dnsmasq is)
[23:43] <lex> jonnymac: did you open the screens and graphics?
[23:43] <IndyGunFreak> jonnymac: then you did something wrong
[23:43] <jonnymac> can i not just go back to my old ubuntu
[23:43] <void^> SmashCat: just be happy you didn't actually go as far as getting kernel 2.4 ;)
[23:43] <Brad01> Squawk, I don't know what to put in the places
[23:43] <IndyGunFreak> jonnymac: what are you using now?
[23:43] <sudobash> if you send me your xorg file jonny i will see if it is right for 1280x1024
[23:43] <suncydu> video problems... My videos is only black and white.... where colour yesterday... Anyone know whats wrong??
[23:43] <jonnymac> screens and graphics... in Systems -preferences?
[23:43] <achandrashekar> how do you use wget to download files larger than 2gb
[23:43] <Squawk> Brad01, the box below gives you pretty good examples
[23:43] <achandrashekar> ??
[23:43] <lex> system -> admin
[23:43] <benpicco> Jordan_U: it should be automounted, but also manual mount gives me mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb (using -t iso9660)
[23:44] <sudobash> yeah that will let you change your res if your xorg will allow it
[23:44] <Brad01> Squawk, Can I just use those?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> achandrashekar, What file system are you saving them to ?
[23:44] <DB44> i have a lenovo 3000 n100 laptop, but the audio isn't working (i have mixer, but i don't hear anything, and the sound tests fail) any ideas ??
[23:44] <ASTURIAS> I have Ubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.10 and the Desktop Effects wont work. I have ATI Radeon 200M XPRESS Video Card
[23:44] <bluefoxx> anyone know how to use the rename command to rename a internally root owned volume?i think it should be "sudo rename -v /dev/hdb <new volume name>" but that doesnt work, gives me a fuzzy message about incorrect suntax. help please?
[23:44] <astro76> achandrashekar: wget has no such limit, what filesystem are you writing to?
[23:44] <jonnymac> I'm using ubuntu, everything works but I had to change my keyboard config cos it came up as Englsih as opposed to French
[23:44] <Jordan_U> benpicco, What FS type is it really?
[23:44] <n2diy> how do I ring the "bell" on the other end of an SSH connection?
[23:44] <achandrashekar> Jordan_U: default ubuntu files system...errmm..i think its ext3
[23:45] <jonnymac> the only other thing I don't know how to do is the screen resolution
[23:45] <benpicco> Jordan_U: it´s a ordinary CDrom
[23:45] <Squawk> Brad, do you actualy needs a dhcp server?
[23:45] <lex> jonnymac: did you go to system -> admin -> screens and graphics?
[23:45] <bulkah> ubuntu-tr
[23:45] <glam> I run du, it shows that my disk is 100% full, how do I go about to delete some files and make some room?
[23:45] <glam> du
[23:45] <Indiadev_Techie> how do i stream radio in ubuntu for free ???
[23:45] <suncydu> anyone know why my videos is black and white???
[23:45] <chocolatewithmin> are medibuntu, cannonical partner chanel and security updates repos having problems?
[23:45] <Squawk> glam, rm filename?
[23:46] <achandrashekar> astro76: are you sure ? - http://software.lpetrov.net/wget-LFS/
[23:46] <Jordan_U> benpicco, I assume you have tried other CDROM's / using the same drive with another OS?
[23:46] <jonnymac> still only offers me the one option, no dropdown option
[23:46] <IndyGunFreak> chocolatewithmin: mine's been fin
[23:46] <usser> Indiadev_Techie: take a look at icecast
[23:46] <IndyGunFreak> *fine
[23:46] <usser> !icecast | Indiadev_Techie
[23:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:46] <astro76> achandrashekar: I didn't think so ;)
[23:46] <lex> jonnymac: change the monitor type
[23:46] <CorruptTerrorist> is wubi 7.10 on the guttsy gibbon iso?
[23:46] <benpicco> Jordan_U: i tried several cds, also booted from other live ds, so both the drive and the cds should be working
[23:46] <sudobash> IndiaDev XMMS
[23:47] <benpicco> *cds
[23:47] <achandrashekar> astro76: I tried to wget a 4.4gb iso, and it only gave me the partial download
[23:47] <glam> actuall I run df, it shows that my root directory is full, and I only have one partitions for my installation, my questions is what kind of files, I could remove to make room for my system.
[23:47] <sudobash> Jordan_U... @?
[23:47] <Brad01> Squawk, My router does dhcp
[23:47] <Squawk> Brad01, if you dont know what/how a dhcp server is/works, are you sure you need to install in the way you are?
[23:47] <lex> jo
[23:47] <speeddemon8803> CorruptTerrorist: I do believe so.
[23:47] <astro76> glam: start with a sudo apt-get clean
[23:47] <Jordan_U> CorruptTerrorist, Sort of. I believe it only has the functionality to use ntldr to boot from the CD without changing BIOS options, not to do an actual wubi install
[23:47] <CorruptTerrorist> kk, just checking speeddemon8803
[23:47] <faileas> CorruptTerrorist: no
[23:47] <chocolatewithmin> IndyGunFreak: maybe national server is under maintenance, but what does mean when synaptic says ''404 error''?
[23:47] <faileas> NAFAIK
[23:47] <ASTURIAS> Help! - Desktop Effects could not be enabled... Ubuntu Feisty 7.10 - ATI Radeon 200M XPRESS Video Card
[23:47] <CorruptTerrorist> faileas, you sure?
[23:47] <speeddemon8803> but...im not sure...
[23:47] <Brad01> Squawk, The laptop has no other way to install it, it's a Laitude L400
[23:47] <DB44> i have a lenovo 3000 n100 laptop, but the audio isn't working (i have mixer, but i don't hear anything, and the sound tests fail) any ideas ??
[23:48] <IndyGunFreak> chocolatewithmin: not connecting for soem reason i do believe
[23:48] <bluefoxx> or is there some way i can have them changed so user owns the extra two internal drives and hey are mounted automatically into some folders in user's home folder, EG /dev/hdd into /home/user/Docs and /dev/hdb into /home/user/Multimedia?
[23:48] <glam> astro76: I did that sudo apt-get clean, but still 100% full.
[23:48] <faileas> CorruptTerrorist: wubi 7.10 is an alpha so i doubt it
[23:48] <usser> Brad01: what about usb flash drive
[23:48] <Squawk> Brad01, ok I would skip the dnsmasq config, I dont see why you would need it
[23:48] <n2diy> glam: you could start with Open Office, it can be replaced with Abiword and Gnumeric.
[23:48] <sudobash> Jordan_U are u an @?
[23:48] <bluefoxx> anyone??...
[23:48] <speeddemon8803> faileas, i thought it was...maybe im wrong....
[23:48]  * speeddemon8803 shrugs
[23:48] <lex> bluefoxx: edit your fstab to mount them
[23:48] <Indiadev_Techie> usser: thax :)
[23:48] <jonnymac> what kind of monitor shall I change it to, it doesn't have my model... ASUS
[23:48] <usser> Indiadev_Techie: np
[23:48] <lex> jonnymac: generic with the resolution you want should suffice
[23:49] <joecurlee> hi, i'm running ubuntu 7.10. i have an external firewire hd and when I plug it in it isn't recognized by the system at all... it does power up, but does not auto mount
[23:49] <ASTURIAS> Help! - Desktop Effects could not be enabled... Ubuntu Feisty 7.10 - ATI Radeon 200M XPRESS Video Card
[23:49] <jonnymac> asks me to choose a driver file?
[23:49] <joecurlee> the system may be recognizing it, but i'm not sure how to check for this sort of thing... have been doing research but nothing is helping out too much
[23:49] <sudobash> joecurlee find out what it represents in /dev/ and mount it
[23:49] <glam> do I clean up the /var/log file?
[23:49] <Brad01> Squawk, Should I follow the rest of the article then?
[23:49] <DB44> how can i check why i have no soudn ?
[23:49] <lex> jonnymac: you should be able to just choose one
[23:49] <usser> joecurlee: see if anything new appears in /dev
[23:50] <speeddemon8803> !sound | db44
[23:50] <ubotu> db44: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:50] <usser> ie unplug it
[23:50] <ZeroIsAHuman> hey yall
[23:50] <usser> joecurlee: unplug it and do ls /dev/*d*
[23:50] <IndyGunFreak> DB44: whats your sound device?
[23:50] <charles__> anyone know how to append my pgp signature to the bottom of my messages as opposed to the top in thunderbird?
[23:50] <ZeroIsAHuman> just finished setting up my ubuntu from fresh install :D
[23:50] <usser> joecurlee: then plug it back in and do ls /dev/*d* again
[23:50] <chocolatewithmin> IndyGunFreak: do yo know the name of the application which allows you change server country? (i have currently installed linuxmint, a ubuntu based distro, so the application is not installed by default)
[23:50] <speeddemon8803> ZerolsAHuman, nice isnt it? :D
[23:50] <joecurlee> ok
[23:50] <usser> joecurlee: see if anynithing new appeared
[23:50] <DB44> IndyGunFreak: sec i'm rebooting
[23:50] <Squawk> Brad01, your just trying to install ubuntu via netboot, right? then I would do what it says at the top of the article, since I don't see how that particular guide is relevant to your situation
[23:50] <joecurlee> now i'll plug it in and do it again
[23:51] <swatTX> problem: everything boots normally (as far as I can tell) and I enter my username and password but the screen just sits there... forever
[23:51] <IndyGunFreak> chocolatewithmin: no i don't
[23:51] <benpicco> Jordan_U: the drive is owned by the group 'disc', but i already added my to it
[23:51] <Squawk> Brad01, sorry man I gotta go
[23:51] <speeddemon8803> What exactly is the wubi.exe file for?
[23:51] <joecurlee> usser: yes list changed after plugging it in
[23:51] <swatTX> I can get to the terminal however I don't have an internet connection to be able to 'apt-get'
[23:51] <usser> joecurlee: u are looking for something like sda or sdb or something like that
[23:51] <ASTURIAS> Help! - Desktop Effects could not be enabled... Ubuntu Feisty 7.10 - ATI Radeon 200M XPRESS Video Card
[23:51] <joecurlee> usser: any idea why it won't auto mount?
[23:51] <jerbear> i realize it was just released but does anyone have an idea as to when the python 2.5.2 release will make its way into the repositories?
[23:51] <speeddemon8803> !repeat | asturias
[23:51] <ubotu> asturias: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:51] <ZeroIsAHuman> does anyone know how to launch ie 6 once installed thru tatanka.com
[23:51] <ZeroIsAHuman> ?
[23:52] <Brad01> Is any here familiar with net-based installs?
[23:52] <speeddemon8803> !patience | asturias
[23:52] <ubotu> asturias: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:52] <usser> joecurlee: dunno because it doesnt know where to mount
[23:52] <joecurlee> usser: found  sdb
[23:52] <WhiteNerd> Hoe do I transfer files between my mac and my Xubuntu box
[23:52] <usser> joecurlee: whats its name in /dev?
[23:52] <DB44> IndyGunFreak: i have an intel corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controlle (Rev 02)
[23:52] <sudobash> swatTX when you say it sits there
[23:52] <lex> ASTURIAS: are you using dual monitors?
[23:52] <sudobash> is it a blink cursor?
[23:52] <ASTURIAS> No
[23:52] <sudobash> blinking*
[23:52] <WhiteNerd> How do I transfer files between my mac and my Xubuntu box
[23:52] <IndyGunFreak> !intelhda | DB44
[23:52] <ubotu> DB44: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[23:52] <CVD-PR> sup
[23:52] <usser> joecurlee: any partitions on it ie sdb1 sdb2 or such?
[23:52] <speeddemon8803> See...patience pays off asturias :D
[23:52] <swatTX> sudobash, no. it is a laptop
[23:52] <DB44> thanks !
[23:52] <hola> sameone is able to help me to cofigure my webcam?
[23:52] <sudobash> so it is loading
[23:52] <joecurlee> usser: /dev/sdb... before and after plugging in there were sda1, sda2 and sda5
[23:53] <sudobash> for a long time and then what?
[23:53] <ASTURIAS> I installed xserver-xgl and changed the 0 to 1 on the xorg.conf (I think) and nothing fixes the problem
[23:53] <usser> joecurlee: looks like its unformatted is it a new drive?
[23:53] <chocolatewithmin> hola: have you installed cheese?
[23:53] <WhiteNerd> How do I transfer files between my mac and my Xubuntu box
[23:53] <lex> ASTURIAS: so compiz or whatever is installed then?
[23:53] <joecurlee> no it's got content but formatted by os x
[23:53] <hola> chocolatewithmin: it is not recognized
[23:53] <ASTURIAS> No
[23:53] <NB2000> ftp transfer comes to mind.
[23:53] <DB44> IndyGunFreak: i need to recompile ALSA ??
[23:53] <sudobash> lol
[23:53] <Brad01> Can someone please help me install linux onto a Dell Latitude L400 with no optical/floppy drive and can't boot of usb
[23:53] <IndyGunFreak> WhiteNerd: you'er gonna have to set up a partition that they can both see, Fat32 is the most common i do believe.
[23:53] <joecurlee> usser: can linux not read a mac formatted drive?
[23:53] <usser> WhiteNerd: lots of ways the easiest is probably to setup a local ftp server
[23:53] <ASTURIAS> I did a fresh install
[23:53] <Jordan_U> WhiteNerd, samba or scp
[23:53] <IndyGunFreak> DB44: most of the time.
[23:54] <ZeroIsAHuman> does anyone know how to launch ie 6 once installed thru tatanka.com
[23:54] <IndyGunFreak> DB44: what model PC do you have
[23:54] <usser> joecurlee: nope should recognize it
[23:54] <speeddemon8803> !netboot | brad01
[23:54] <ubotu> brad01: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[23:54] <sudobash> ubuntu has a great ftp client its called sudo nautilus
[23:54] <Jordan_U> joecurlee, Linux can read hfs+
[23:54] <swatTX> nothing. i can ctrl+alt+f2 and login and look around but otherwise it just sits at the blank default screen with just a working mouse
[23:54] <lex> ASTURIAS: isn't that a compiz feature? or am i mistaken. try installing it and see if that help
[23:54] <usser> joecurlee: in any case try sudo /dev/sdb /mnt
[23:54] <DB44> IndyGunFreak: lenovo 3000 n100
[23:54] <usser> joecurlee: err sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt
[23:54] <ASTURIAS> in Synaptic?
[23:54] <lex> yeah
[23:54] <joecurlee> usser: will do
[23:54] <ASTURIAS> Ok
[23:54] <usser> joecurlee: and see if it mounts
[23:54] <WhiteNerd> Does linux not recognize hfs+?
[23:54] <jerbear> i realize it was just released but does anyone have an idea as to when the python 2.5.2 release will make its way into the repositories?
[23:54] <CorruptTerrorist> i have vista... can i use wubi with gutsy gibbon?
 joecurlee, Linux can read hfs+
[23:55] <ASTURIAS> I have another question
[23:55] <NForc3r> hey guys how to i run winedoors
[23:55] <charles__> anyone know how to append my pgp signature to the bottom of my messages as opposed to the top in thunderbird?
[23:55] <CorruptTerrorist> i have vista... can i use wubi *8.04 with gutsy gibbon?
[23:55] <jonnymac> Lex: I love you and want to have your babies, you are the champion of all the Ubuntly Challenged as well as all the other beautiful people in this room
[23:55] <CorruptTerrorist> correction
[23:55] <NForc3r> i installed the deb file but dont know how to run it
[23:55] <lex> jonnymac: worked eh?
[23:55] <chocolatewithmin> hola: not recognized, i'm spanish i dont understood you? could you express yourself by another way?
[23:55] <ASTURIAS> I see many times that I can go to System > Preferences and Appearance, But I don't have Appearance in my panel!!!
[23:55] <lex> ASTURIAS: what?
[23:55] <jonnymac> I'll admit that I blush when I think how easy it was to fix
[23:55] <speeddemon8803> lex, looks like you made someone VERY happy :P
[23:55] <Jordan_U> !es | chocolatewithmin
[23:55] <ubotu> chocolatewithmin: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:55] <lex> ASTURIAS: right click the system menu and edit it
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> DB44: i might have a fix for you, type this w/o quotes... "/join #indygunfreak"
[23:56] <NForc3r> ???
[23:56] <lex> speeddemon8803: yeah, appears so lol
[23:56] <sudobash> wait room your going to fast... im stoned... slow down to my speed :p
[23:56] <hola> chocolatewithmin: in italina is fine?
[23:56] <ASTURIAS> Ok,Thanks
[23:56] <jonnymac> thank you again, must dash to my essay now, mwah, x
[23:56] <swatTX> sudobash, sorry. the screen was scrolling a little too quick for me to keep up. any ideas?
[23:56] <lex> good luck
[23:56] <speeddemon8803> sudobash: keep up then ;)
[23:56] <sudobash> lol
[23:57] <sudobash> the laptop issue swat?
[23:57] <lex> swatTX: what drivers ect you using?
[23:57] <rambo3> !gfxboot
[23:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gfxboot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:57] <Brad01> I'm trying to follow this installation guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QuickNetboot
[23:57] <sudobash> so it is loading at a black screen? now blinking cursor for input?
[23:57] <chocolatewithmin> hola: italian? i don't understand it, sorry, but what do you tried to say, you don't know the cheese app?
[23:57] <swatTX> lex, just the defaults that gibbon comes with. i never activated the restricted drivers. this is a fairly new install
[23:57] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[23:58] <hola> chocolatewithmin: the problem is that kubuntu does not recognize the cam
[23:58] <hola> no /dev/video is created
[23:58] <sudobash> intel chipset swatTX?
[23:58] <joecurlee> usser: just mounted :)
[23:58] <speeddemon8803> !netboot > speeddemon8803
[23:58] <lex> swatTX: it sounds like an xorg config problem with the graphics card or monitor. i think i've had the problem before. what video card do you ahve?
[23:58] <Brad01> Here is my network info http://pastebin.com/m1882fe87 can someone show me what to use in the places?
[23:58] <swatTX> sudobash, AMD
[23:58] <chocolatewithmin> hola: so, have you tried to install an app which detects it?
[23:58] <consfearacy> !netboot > consfearacy
[23:58] <hola> chocolatewithmin: of course
[23:58] <joecurlee> usser: (had to answer phone)... so i'm assuming i'll have to do this every time I want to use it?
[23:58] <sudobash> thats your processor... maybe ATI video or Nvidia? hopefully not intel :p
[23:58] <CorruptTerrorist> what is Alpha5?
[23:59] <Brad01> pre-beta
[23:59] <chocolatewithmin> hola: waht apps have you tried?
[23:59] <swatTX> lex, i think i might've deleted some core files on accident when trying to undo some other changes.
[23:59] <lex> haha
[23:59] <PriceChild> !hardy | chocolatewithmin
[23:59] <ubotu> chocolatewithmin: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:59] <hola> chocolatewithmin: amsn, gqcam, camorana etc
[23:59] <lex> swatTX: hate when that happens
[23:59] <sudobash> swatx it doesnt let you input anything from kb?
[23:59] <swatTX> sudobash, sorry. kb?


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[00:34] <nightdevil> Hi
[00:35] <akaisora> nightdevil: hi!
[08:14] <user|98424> hey guys
[08:59] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:22] <ankiwi> lordievader: Good morning
[09:22] <lordievader> Hey ankiwi
[09:22] <ankiwi> what timezone are you? It's 2am here xD
[09:23] <lordievader> UTC+2
[09:44] <sujit25> hii
[09:47] <lordievader> Hey sujit25
[09:47] <sujit25> do u contribute to kde ?
[09:48] <lordievader> Err... I've done Kubuntu iso testing in the past.
[09:49] <lordievader> I'd rather have it that you keep it in channel...
[09:49] <sujit25> i am intermediate qt programmer
[09:50] <sujit25> want to contribute in kubuntu.dont know where to start
[09:50] <lordievader> Ask around in #kubuntu-devel, but do note that it is weekend. Communication might be slow.
[09:50] <eeos> Hi everybody I am having sme troubles with an encryted home directory
[09:55] <eeos> the swap has been aencrypted as well, aapparently, but whenever I boot it asks for the passhrase to unencrypt the swap
[09:55] <eeos> also, when I install using muon the whole system gets stuck because waiting for passphrase .... but it does not ask!
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:08] <zenesc> Help on installing Kubuntu By Usb Drive?
[11:10] <zenesc> It says Searching for Boot Record from RMD-FDD..OK
[11:10] <zenesc> With a sound of something is wrong!
[11:18] <lordievader> zenesc: How did you make the live-usb?
[11:20] <lordievader> zenesc: How did you make the live-usb?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> he left , lordievader
[11:20] <lordievader> BluesKaj: And came back ;)
[11:20] <zenesc> With startup disk
[11:21] <lordievader> zenesc: Hmm, I usually use unetbootin with good results.
[11:21] <lordievader> Is the usb stick formatted as a fat32?
[11:21] <BluesKaj> heh, unetbootin fails half the time here
[11:21] <zenesc> I think problem is pc, I did install sevral machine, but this one is resisting
[11:22] <BluesKaj> zenesc:  how old is the pc?
[11:22] <zenesc> Shame I cannot send a pic of sreen
[11:22] <lordievader> zenesc: Does it have a floppy drive?
[11:22] <zenesc> Yes
[11:22] <lordievader> Is it able to boot from usb?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> zenesc:  look in your BIOS to see if it has USB boot options
[11:24] <zenesc> It recognize the disk and I allowed Device Legacy Support
[11:24] <lordievader> But can it boot from it?
[11:25] <zenesc> exactly
[11:26] <lordievader> Is that a yes or a no?
[11:26] <zenesc> It says "Searching for Boot Record from RMD-FDD..OK"
[11:27] <lordievader> That is not what I am asking.
[11:27] <lordievader> Can your motherboard boot from a usb device.
[11:27] <lordievader> ?
[11:28] <zenesc> No only cd dvd
[11:28] <lordievader> So why do you try to boot from usb?
[11:28] <lordievader> Make a live-cd/dvd.
[11:29] <zenesc> I guess, It recognize the key but if not on doest give the option
[11:30] <zenesc> Never did from cd and don't have.And I always did from usb. I understand from what you are saying Cd only option
[11:31] <BluesKaj> burn a live cd witrh the iso file and install kubuntu with that, usb will not work
[11:31] <lordievader> zenesc: Well, you are telling me the pc isn't able to boot from usb... so I don't follow why you try.
[11:31] <zenesc> Many thanks. I will
[11:32] <zenesc> Because it recognized the key when in usb
[13:53] <leumas> Any one having challenge with lanching Steam on Kubuntu 16.04?
[13:56] <leumas> Output when I run steam on the terminal https://paste.kde.org/puztfg96w
[14:10] <cers_> Hi, I'm trying to update my kubuntu 15.10 to whatever is the latest, but running do-release-upgrade I get this error https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8878034
[14:11] <cers_> any ideas what could be the problem?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> cers_:  update and upgrade your existing 15.10 packages first then sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:16] <madmax> mmm
[17:26] <user|53232> Hi, I do have a  KDE and Ubuntu system. Where  can find the apt source to install muon?
[17:26] <user|53232> I also downloaded the source. But there is not configure file nor any readme :(
[17:28] <user|53232> Ups, i see: Muon is dead?
[17:51] <vahe> hi all
[17:54] <vahe> why the need for fbaloo_file_extractor ?
[17:55] <vahe> the fan isn't switched off
[17:55] <vahe> 50%cpu
[17:55] <vahe> baloo_file_extractor?
[17:56] <vahe> what does for system?
[18:02] <vahe> and plasmashell --shut-up https://lut.im/7AkTlcKdOy/jvn0vBOoGP7LzChO.png
[18:05] <marahin> Hello. I've struggled with pairing a Microsoft mouse with my Kubuntu notebook, and finally - failed. However during the setup, I had installed multiple, many bluetooth managers and stuff, that corrupted kubuntu's default manager (at least it seems so). Now I have blueman, which works just fine, however how it looks disgusting. My question is: what is the default Kubuntu's Bluetooth Manager / applet (often shown in tray)?
[18:06] <marahin> aaaand actually I got my answer. It's bluedevil. However, now: how can I make bluedevil to be shown in system tray (on a panel)?
[19:36] <fuze> how can I install this, there is no download link? https://launchpad.net/pushbullet-indicator
[19:36] <fuze> im on kubuntu 16.04
[19:37] <est31> how can I find out which package provides a specific plasma applet?
[19:37] <est31> or widget
[20:17] <user|61042> Hi there.
[20:17] <user|61042> Is anyone active?
[21:12] <fuze> plasma keeps crashing every 10 minutes https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nxVMvzM0/
[21:44] <Intime> buenas noches
[22:05] <anabain> I'm having video issues after upgrading to 16.04.
[22:05] <anabain> System won't refresh properly. This is my video card:
[22:05] <anabain> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]
[22:06] <anabain> Any hints?
[22:08] <memphisto> @anabain you should check this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[22:10] <anabain> memphisto, it seems I have this installed: libdrm-radeon1:amd64, xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[22:10] <anabain> should it be working fine, or do I need to do some tweaking?
[22:12] <memphisto> well on the page it says if you upgraded to 16.04 you should remove the fglr driver and del the xorg.conf
[22:12] <memphisto> so start with that
[22:13] <anabain> memphisto, fglrx has been automatically removed, as the info you gave says
[22:15] <memphisto> so you have drivers working but facing issue with refresh
[22:15] <anabain> and /etc/X11/ does not have xorg.conf in it any more
[22:15] <anabain> memphisto, yes, it seems so
[22:16] <memphisto> can you describe refreshing issue. seen somewhere all everywhere, sometimes, all the time
[22:17] <anabain> memphisto, all the time, switching to other windows is a pain, you see the former window or at least a large part of it
[22:17] <anabain> resizing also works awfully
[22:18] <memphisto> did sudo X -configure help?
[22:18] <anabain> let's see
[22:19] <anabain> memphisto, I get some errors. This command has to be entered with X disabled?
[22:20] <memphisto> yes
[22:20] <memphisto> try running in terminal telinit 3
[22:20] <memphisto> or telinit 1
[22:21] <memphisto> so you will be in single user mode (teleinit 1)
[22:21] <memphisto> and then reconfigure the X
[22:21] <anabain> do you mean ctrl+alt+f1? I 'm not sure I understand you right now?
[22:22] <memphisto> well no.
[22:22] <memphisto> you would be still running X on other tty
[22:22] <anabain> I'll have to restart the system and enter these modes you said?
[22:23] <memphisto> just run sudo telinit 1 in terminal
[22:23] <anabain> ok
[22:23] <memphisto> and you'll see what happens
[22:31] <movnota> Question about .deb packages - why would one remove unrelated programs?
[22:32] <movnota> I just installed Prey (laptop tracking software) and it seems to have removed GIMP (the image editor).
[22:32] <movnota> Not sure if there might be some reason for this I'm missing, but I'm quite confused.
[22:34] <memphisto> @movnota: i guess space, and it could bring potential and unnecessary security issues
[22:35] <memphisto> Oh
[22:35] <memphisto> sorry i didn't read it
[22:35] <memphisto> thats strange, that it removed gimp
[22:35] <bprompt> hmm
[22:35] <bprompt> movnota:    how did it "remove gimp"?
[22:38] <movnota> When I opened the .deb package in package installer, it said a number of additional packages would be installed - when I clicked the details list, it listed a whole bunch of additional things to install, but also a long list of things to uninstall, including gimp.
[22:39] <movnota> I thought I must have been misunderstanding something. I was stupid, and ran it - and sure enough GIMP is gone, and I think there are a few less programs in my system and utilities list too, but I'm not sure what.
[22:40] <bprompt> movnota:   possibly a library or dependency it comes with, is either newer or older than an existing one already installed in the system, and installing the package will  replace that, however, the one installed in the system, is needed/used by other package(s), and removing the installed one, may result in hosing that/those package(s)
[22:40] <memphisto> apt-cache showpkg Prey.deb will show you dependencies
[22:40] <bprompt> I've seen it happen with newer libraries mostly, but I've seen it happen with older ones too
[22:43] <movnota> Hm, ok, thanks.
[22:43] <movnota> One other question - should a .deb package ever remove and reinstall sudo?
[22:44] <anabain> memphisto, it seems X -configure did not help.
[22:45] <anabain> there was an error: "device not found" or something like that.
[22:45] <anabain> I'll try your suggestion, thanks
[22:45] <memphisto> ok. hope it will help
[22:48] <memphisto> @movnota: even though sudo is again just another app, i doubt that it should be removed as its the only means you have to administer your ubuntu system. upgraded it, yes
[22:48] <memphisto> ii  sudo                                          1.8.9p5-1ubuntu1.2          amd64                       Provide limited super user privileges to specific u
[22:50] <movnota> ok, thanks
[22:51] <Skullz> Hey, any software for Windows so I can verify the ISOs I'm downloading? I've been getting errno 5 messages on multiple HDDs and SSDs and with different distros
[22:51] <memphisto> no problem
[22:51] <Skullz> I've been using the latest Rufus too
[22:52] <Skullz> And I've been using different USB sticks too
[22:52] <memphisto> @Skullz: try http://www.winmd5.com/
[22:53] <Skullz> I don't see support for SHA256 though, and you only have that for the checksum
[22:54] <memphisto> then try this https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/889768
[22:54] <memphisto> sorry
[22:54] <memphisto> not 256
[22:54] <memphisto> http://bhoover.com/how-to-verify-checksum-windows/
[22:55] <anabain> memphisto, no luck, the same as  before
[22:56] <anabain> should I check some desktop effects configuration?
[22:56] <memphisto> maybe , but first
[22:56] <memphisto> what does dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon' say
[22:56] <memphisto> and you've reistalled mesa
[22:56] <memphisto> right?
[22:57] <Skullz> Okay, so maybe it
[22:57] <Skullz> just rufus giving me issues
[22:58] <Skullz> thanks memphisto
[22:58] <memphisto> np
[22:59] <Skullz> gonna use an older version of rufus and see if I can complete the install
[22:59] <Skullz> since multiple computers can't finish it
[22:59] <anabain> memphisto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17505120/
[23:00] <anabain> yes, mesa is reinstalled, as you suggested, memphisto
[23:01] <bprompt> Skullz:   hmmm are you trying to burn the iso to an usb stick?
[23:01] <Skullz> yea, never had a problem until today
[23:01] <memphisto> Skullz: try something other to build usb booting images
[23:02] <bprompt> Skullz:    well.hmmm what hmm iso are you getting?  16.04?
[23:02] <Skullz> Yea
[23:02] <memphisto> anabain could you please also share the lsmod
[23:02] <Skullz> But Linux Mint had also failed too on an older computer
[23:02] <anabain> btw, memphisto, maybe I should be thinking about getting another video card: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[23:03] <bprompt> Skullz:     so hmmm how big is it?
[23:03] <anabain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17505283/
[23:03] <Skullz> If this install fails after using Rufus 2.6, then I'll try another burner
[23:03] <Skullz> bprompt you mean the ISO or the drive?
[23:04] <bprompt> Skullz:   the downloaded iso? how long did it take to get it anyway?
[23:04] <Skullz> Torrented was like less than ten minutes for a GB and a half roughly
[23:05] <memphisto> anabain: yes, thats really bad. but there has to be a way to fix this , its just that i don't know any
[23:05] <Skullz> Direct download was about the same
[23:05] <bprompt> hmm ok.. chances are, the iso is fine then
[23:05] <Skullz> My SSD is good too, since I fsck'd it
[23:06] <Skullz> Now the older HDD with XP on it, I'm not sure
[23:06] <Skullz> Luckily I can just get rid of it since I had a spare laptop from a relative
[23:06] <bprompt> Skullz:   nevermind rufus, can't say it's bad, I've heard good of it though,   but for the iso, you don't even need to format the stick, just for windows use something like win32disk imager -> https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/   <--- so it will raw write the iso to the stick, and that's all, when done, just boot with it
[23:06] <memphisto> anabain: those cmds should of worked. could you reboot your pc? i mean we purged flgrx, reinstalled mesa and reconfigured x
[23:07] <anabain> memphisto, anyway, thank you very much for your help
[23:07] <memphisto> i didn't help... :(
[23:07] <anabain> yes, that was made and I rebooted the machine
[23:08] <memphisto> could you boot into the lilve mode from ubuntu 16.04 iso and then check the graphisc from there
[23:08] <Skullz> I opened up a tab for it, so if this install fails I'll try that, seeing as the ISO came out clean, my SSD is good and I'm checking the USB stick now
[23:09] <Skullz> thanks
[23:09] <anabain> memphisto, I'll try, but what should I be looking for?
[23:09] <memphisto> first if it works it's not hw issue. then same things we checked
[23:10] <bprompt> Skullz:   16.04 iso is just 1.4gbs, and for a 10mins download the chances of it getting any connection issues, is very unlikely
[23:10] <Skullz> So with some luck, I can install this and get back to work
[23:11] <Skullz> I really miss Kubuntu's Plasma desktop
[23:11] <bprompt> Skullz:     w32disk imager, does "raw writes", so it grabs the blobs and writes it byte by byte, no fuss, no muss, and the iso already comes with the geometries needed
[23:12] <Skullz> Okay
[23:21] <memphisto> @anabain: well you can try with this link http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[23:21] <memphisto> beta drivers for ubuntu
[23:22] <memphisto> http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx


[04:29] <Spekko> Maaz: coffee on
[04:29]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[04:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Spekko!
[05:27] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[05:32] <Kilos> morning all
[05:50] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93
[06:20] <Spekko> Morning Kilos
[06:20] <Kilos> hi Spekko
[06:28] <Squirm-> morning
[06:28] <Kilos> hi Squirm-
[06:28] <jabberwocky93> morning Kilos
[06:30] <superfly> guten morgen
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> & congrats :-)
[06:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> you're a braver man than I ;-p
[06:31] <Kilos> morgen superfly ThatGraemeGuy
[06:31] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: they say there's a thin line between bravery and stupidity
[06:32] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy what did the fly do
[06:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> *snigger*
[06:32] <Kilos> how come you didnt tell me superfly
[06:32] <superfly> Kilos: tell you what?
[06:32] <Kilos> what you did that you being congratulated for man
[06:33] <superfly> This, I gather: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/1625627_10153908068725094_1721210745_n.jpg
[06:33] <Kilos> lemme go see
[06:33] <Kilos> another one?
[06:34] <superfly> You say that like it's a bad thing...
[06:34] <Kilos> no man
[06:35] <Kilos> just so quick and ive been off the fly sites and Hannahs site so ,ong i forget what is going on
[06:35] <Kilos> congratulations superfly
[06:35] <superfly> Thanks Kilos :-)
[06:35] <Kilos> s/,ong/long
[06:36] <superfly> Kilos: we use vuisboek more these days
[06:36] <Kilos> tell Hannah i say congrats too please
[06:36] <superfly> I will
[06:37] <Kilos> fb kills my data but i saw something in opera that says it can modify facebook to suit ones likes
[06:37] <Kilos> was waiting for golynx to see if it works
[06:37] <Kilos> an extension or something
[06:38] <Kilos> now you gonna get even less sleep superfly
[06:38] <Kilos> sjoe we gonna have to call you superzombie
[06:49] <Kilos> hi Xethron bduk1
[06:54] <inetpro> superfly: congrats!
[06:54] <inetpro> and good luck!
[06:54] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:54] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[06:55] <superfly> hi inetpro, thanks
[07:10] <Kilos> hi not_found
[07:10] <not_found> o/
[07:15] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[07:15]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:15] <Squirm> Maaz: largest
[07:15] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Squirm?
[07:16] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[07:16] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[07:19] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[07:21] <Squirm> ^^
[07:21] <Squirm> I just had to pass up an opportunity to sail from Cpt to Durban :(
[07:21] <Kilos> Maaz thanks
[07:21] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[07:56] <bduk1> Did someone hihacked the rain today?
[08:20] <superfly> Anyone else suffering from load shedding?
[09:07] <georgl> load shedding in effect here in the cape
[09:07] <georgl> ypu
[09:07] <georgl> yup
[09:07] <georgl> power was off for 2 odd hours
[10:08] <Kilos> oh my , load shedding officially started again today according to radio news
[10:10] <Kilos> hi the
[10:10] <Kilos> ooops
[10:58] <Squirm> we're meant to be hit by it later on
[10:59] <Squirm> they can't tell us when and for how long
[11:10] <nuvolari> cloud is not good for sunny days
[11:10] <nuvolari> It stops working
[11:25] <nuvolari> ugh, is there international interweb breaks?
[11:25] <nuvolari> *are
[11:41] <Tinuva> actually you can find out exactly when you get hit by load shedding
[11:41] <Tinuva> i know for example, our office and my house will be down from 2pm to 16:30
[11:41] <Tinuva> and again tonight 10pm to 00:30
[11:41] <Tinuva> then tomorrow 6am to 8:30
[11:42] <Tinuva> you need to know on which power station you are, and then get the stage3 load shedding schedule
[11:42] <Tinuva> very easy
[11:42] <Tinuva> still sucks that we have to go through thi
[11:42] <Spekko> Question...
[11:43] <Spekko> Is it a natural, for a PHP file to have 1.2k + lines of procedural code? When all you want to do is add a new user ?
[11:44] <Spekko> Sorry wrong channel :/
[11:45] <Kilos> Tinuva you have a link to that?
[11:45] <Tinuva> i can give you link to the Cape Town stuff?
[11:46] <Kilos> oh it dont strat with a nation wide one first?
[11:46] <Kilos> start
[11:46] <Tinuva> cape town, suburb to station conversion list: http://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2703/d74d0683019540c39a1c5607db187309.pdf
[11:47] <Tinuva> cape town stage 3 load shedding schedule: https://www.capetown.gov.za/en/Documents/Load_shedding_stage_3_schedule.pdf
[11:47] <Tinuva> each municipality have their own schedule
[11:47] <Tinuva> so you really want to get your municipality's schedule
[11:47] <Kilos> cool ty let me ask google
[11:48]  * jabberwocky93 slaps Spekko with a large trout
[11:49]  * Spekko sobs
[11:49] <Kilos> looks like one starts here http://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/
[12:00] <Kilos> Spekko grab and cook the trout man, they best fresh water fish
[12:04] <Tinuva> yeah Kilos just looked at that url, it says the same the pdf docs says, just easier
[12:07] <Tinuva> and yes load shedding at my house started :(
[12:07] <Tinuva> i cant ping the one pc that is not on a UPS
[12:07] <Tinuva> the others will probably die soon enough
[12:07] <Kilos> ouch
[12:07] <Kilos> that sucks
[12:08] <Tinuva> network UPS will last easily through out
[12:08] <Tinuva> so ADSL and Wifi at home stays up, can for up to 5 hours
[12:08] <Tinuva> since it pulls so little power on that ups
[12:08] <Kilos> ah
[12:08] <Tinuva> the good thing is, power will be back when work finish
[12:28] <nuvolari> just when you think the week can't get worse... internet down
[12:28] <nuvolari> I'm jut going to laugh
[12:28] <nuvolari> *just
[12:32] <nuvolari> the en of the world!
[12:33] <nuvolari> 'lectricity just went down
[13:49] <Golynx> down from 30 to 22 , load shedding ?
[14:06] <Squirm> :/
[14:07]  * Squirm waits impatiently for it to die
[14:09] <Golynx> lol
[14:10]  * Golynx puts a self powered house in his wish list
[15:36] <Kilos> hmm... looks like we got load shed for 2.5 hours
[15:37] <Kilos> grrr
[16:43] <kbmonkey> nuvolari, boar? like the kind that asterix and obelix catch? :D
[16:44] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey
[16:44] <kbmonkey> hello
[16:45] <Private_User> hello kbmonkey
[16:46] <Private_User> hello everybody else
[16:46] <Private_User> hello Kilos
[16:46] <Private_User> I know I greeted Kilos already but this is just for the channel records ;)
[16:46] <Private_User> hehe
[16:46] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[16:46] <Kilos> haha
[16:47] <Private_User> was just curious how come most of the people in here only connect from work?
[16:48] <kbmonkey> how do you figure that Private_User ?
[16:48] <not_found> better to talk on IRC than work>\
[16:48] <Kilos> they spend their lives on pcs so want a break. but normally most are still here at night
[16:48] <Kilos> load shedding is killing some i think
[16:49] <kbmonkey> serves us right Kilos
[16:49] <Kilos> hehe
[16:49] <Private_User> kbmonkey:  I just see many people leaving the room around end of business day
[16:49] <Private_User> and not all re-join again
[16:49] <Private_User> later in the evening
[16:50] <Private_User> lol @ not_found
[16:50] <kbmonkey> great observation Private_User !
[16:51] <Private_User> not_found: be sure your boss is not looking and maybe on this channel, but then again if he is on this channel then he probably thinking like you LOL
[16:51] <Private_User> lol @ kbmonkey
[16:52] <kbmonkey> hey hey this is freenode not some myface chat ;P
[16:52] <kbmonkey> this is geek country
[16:52] <not_found> doubt my boss knows what IRC is :p
[16:52] <Private_User> lol
[16:53] <kbmonkey> encrypted ssh -> linux shell -> freenode -> no spying
[16:53]  * kbmonkey dons tin foil hat
[16:53] <Private_User> lol
[16:54] <kbmonkey> trying to work out cost of fuel if I move rooms
[16:55] <Kilos> closer to work kbmonkey ?
[16:56] <Kilos> fuel costs today are a major factor in everything
[16:56] <Private_User> yeah and I have noticed that when fuel price goes up everything goes up but when fuel price comes down nothing else comes down
[16:56] <kbmonkey> farther
[16:56] <kbmonkey> further?
[16:57] <kbmonkey> fuhrer?
[16:57] <Kilos> yeah
[16:57] <Private_User> btw kbmonkey why did you not upload pictures of keyboards and monkeys on your site maybe with a side of bananas?
[16:57] <Private_User> :D
[16:57] <Kilos> haha he is a big banana eater
[16:57] <kbmonkey> kbmonkey.blinkenshell.org
[16:57] <kbmonkey> asciinanas
[17:08] <kbmonkey> about R800 a month extra on fuel.
[17:14] <Private_User> btw what languages do they use when developing software and applications on ubuntu and ubuntu itself? Is it mainly C or C++?
[17:22] <charl_> good evening
[17:22] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[17:22]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[17:22] <Private_User> evening charl_
[17:22] <charl_> hi Private_User
[17:23] <Kilos> methinks everything Private_User
[17:23] <Kilos> python perl and the rest
[17:23] <Kilos> hi charl_
[17:23] <charl_> hi Kilos
[17:23] <Private_User> ok Kilos
[17:23] <Kilos> i think
[17:23] <Private_User> is kbmonkey still here got a good site for him to visit?  At last someone with taste
[17:28] <Private_User> Maaz: coffee please
[17:28] <Maaz> Private_User: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses
[17:28] <Kilos> Maaz and milk
[17:28] <Maaz> Now you're talking
[17:28] <Private_User> Maaz: large for me
[17:28] <Maaz> Private_User: Huh?
[17:28] <Kilos> dont add on to the commands
[17:29] <Kilos> large only is recognised
[17:29] <kbmonkey> yes Private_User ?
[17:29] <Private_User> Maaz: large
[17:29] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Private_User
[17:29] <Private_User> ok thanks Kilos
[17:29] <Kilos> np
[17:29] <kbmonkey> was working out if moving would be cost effective with more travel.
[17:29] <kbmonkey> not that I would use the extra money for anything
[17:30] <Private_User> kbmonkey: I always think of this when I see your nick http://www.joecartoon.com/index.php/episodes/look-at-my-monkey/
[17:30] <Private_User> LOL
[17:30] <Private_User> :p
[17:30] <charl_> brb off to the shops
[17:31] <Private_User> but you just got here
[17:31] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Private_User and Kilos!
[17:31] <Private_User> Maaz: thank you
[17:31] <Maaz> Private_User: Okay :-)
[17:35] <Kilos> Maaz danke
[17:35] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[17:39] <kbmonkey> lol Private_User - I does not play but I remember joe cartoon!
[17:40] <Private_User> yeah and also the the fly one, think of that when the fly nick is mentioned
[17:40] <kbmonkey> yeah the stoned flies!
[17:42] <kbmonkey> reminds me of happier times
[17:44] <Private_User> lol same here dude, same here
[17:44] <kbmonkey> well stepping away from the screen to do stuff. read or something.
[17:44] <kbmonkey> busy with the hitchhiker's trilogy
[17:45] <kbmonkey> a trilogy, yet it is 5 books. how about that! :D
[17:45] <kbmonkey> Maaz, whoami
[17:45] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Huh?
[17:46] <kbmonkey> bot does not know your GNU commands!
[17:48] <Kilos> kbmonkey ask him again
[17:53] <charl_> back
[17:54] <Private_User> welcome back charl_
[17:54] <Kilos> wow shops close hey
[18:00] <Kilos> is that close the same as nearby
[18:00] <Kilos> looks wrong
[18:08] <charl_> Kilos: yes i live in the middle of the city here
[18:09] <charl_> a big shopping mall is very close to my apartment and the rest of the city is also near by (it's small city)
[18:09] <Kilos> cool
[18:11]  * not_found is back... stupid long and boring night shifts ftl
[18:11] <Kilos> hehe
[18:11] <charl_> hey not_found
[18:11] <not_found> hiya charl_ :)
[18:11] <Private_User> hey not_found
[18:11] <charl_> you should give them a 404 error when they call you up for night shift
[18:12] <charl_> then you really are not found :)
[18:12] <Private_User> LOL
[18:12] <not_found> unfortunately I am permanently on shifts so night shift is a given >.<
[18:12] <Private_User> just curious, what do you do that your work night shifts
[18:14] <Kilos> skins dates and makes date fingers wit flour and camel milk
[18:14] <not_found> >.<
[18:14] <Kilos> with
[18:14] <not_found> operator, panel operator the be exact... we be making some plastic :p
[18:14] <not_found> *yo
[18:14] <not_found> *to
[18:14] <not_found> >.<
[18:14] <Private_User> ok cool
[18:15] <Kilos> what does that smiley show?
[18:15] <Private_User> I worked night shifts previously, I loved it
[18:15] <Private_User> that when you the least busy
[18:15] <Private_User> :D
[18:15] <Kilos> ive lost the smiley thing in konversation since going 64bit and dunno how to get them back
[18:16] <Private_User> >.< nothing comes up for me as well Kilos
[18:16] <Kilos> i had them showing so lekker
[18:16] <Kilos> sigh
[18:17] <charl_> lol date fingers
[18:18] <Kilos> they actually lekker
[18:18] <charl_> yes
[18:18] <charl_> i had some delicious dates the other day
[18:19] <Kilos> wb Tonberry
[18:19] <Tonberry> finallly
[18:19] <Kilos> power off till now?
[18:19] <Kilos> we had 2 hours off
[18:19] <charl_> hi Tonberry
[18:20] <Tonberry> yes just got power back
[18:20] <not_found> I don't think >.< is an official emiticon
[18:20] <Kilos> i watched the news and they blame first of all the rain that wet the coal
[18:20] <Kilos> then add quietly and a conveyor belt that broke in 2013 and not repaired yet
[18:20] <not_found> that story again >.<
[18:21] <not_found> Eskom up to its old stories >
[18:21] <not_found> ?
[18:21] <Kilos> yeah
[18:23] <not_found> :/
[18:23] <charl_> eishkom?
[18:23] <not_found> that sucks
[18:23] <not_found> previous time they didn't pay the truck drivers so nobody delivered the coal and nobody noticed >.<
[18:23] <Kilos> ya
[18:25] <Kilos> but after a month of regular power cuts no one complains when the price goes up as long as the power stays on
[18:25] <not_found> clever tactic :'(
[18:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:48] <charl_> have a good evening
[19:00] <magespawn> good evening
[19:13] <superfly> hihi
[19:14] <magespawn> hey
[19:14] <magespawn> anyone know a good dj program? i have mixx installed currently
[19:15] <magespawn> where is everyone?
[19:16] <superfly> mixx was what I was going to recommend
[19:19] <magespawn> works nicely, just need a desk and a faster pc
[19:20] <magespawn> might also be better if the music was on the laptop hard drive  and not a usb drive
[19:25] <inetpro> good evenin
[19:25] <magespawn> howdy inetpro
[19:25] <inetpro> heh magespawn, hoe gaan dinge daar?
[19:26] <magespawn> baie goed, dankie, en met jou?
[19:54] <magespawn> any ways, bed time for me, good night all
[21:29] <nuvolari> oh hi
[21:32] <not_found> haithar
[22:00] <nuvolari> fp
[22:00] <nuvolari> eh?
[22:00] <nuvolari> hey, how are you not_found?
[22:01] <nuvolari> \o/ shared something for #shareyourdesktopfriday on google+
[22:01] <nuvolari> it's been ages
[22:01] <nuvolari> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109079147795071980257/posts/75Ck46a1TyK
[22:04] <nuvolari> ok, gonna hit the hay
[22:12] <not_found> good night nuvolari :)


[00:25] <devilboy> hi, I have 1GB of RAM on Lubuntu 13.04 and in task manager it shows only as 968MB. Is that OK ? :P
[00:28] <Unit193> Guessing graphics took some.
[00:28] <devilboy> Unit193, they answered me also in ubuntu channel. Thank you also.
[00:30] <devilboy> Unit193, do you suggest more than 1GB of RAM in Lubuntu ?
[00:30] <Unit193> Generally, more ram isn't bad, but you'll want to make sure your mobo/bios supports it.
[00:31] <Unit193> But yes, more would be good.
[00:31] <binaryhermit> more RAM is always better
[00:31] <devilboy> Hmm... In the future then :P
[00:31] <binaryhermit> as long as your system supports the extra RAM I mean
[00:32] <devilboy> yeah it does, but it runs very good so far, never gets full of ram.
[00:32] <devilboy> even in 1gb i mean
[00:34] <devilboy> RAM Usage right now only with ChatZilla open :P 315 MB of 968 MB
[00:37] <devilboy> thank you all :) good night or good morning or have a nice day !!!
[00:58] <MiniD> Does anyone know how the performance of lubuntu compares to windows xp on low resource machines?
[01:02] <phillw> MiniD: our early results are that it is as least as good, and possibly better. Only those people using such systems can further inform. And, this is a topic for #lubuntu-offtopic
[01:03] <MiniD> O sorry
[13:41] <LuSonikkuAmerica> phillw: I probably won't make the Lubuntu talk in OpenWeek but is the new Nexus 7 session on your list of talking points for your 10 AM (2 PM UTC) session?
[13:46] <phillw> LuSonikkuAmerica: no, it is a general chat about lubuntu, what it is, where it is heading and how to help :)
[16:12] <Newk1> hi there, i need some help... i just installed lubuntu 12.04 on my gf computer but after booting it it greets me with grub error 15
[16:13] <Newk1> so there must have gone something wrong with installing grub2
[16:13] <Newk1> i am now on the lubuntu live cd.. trying to fix the grub on sda
[16:15] <binaryhermit> try this... it's for an older version, but it might work.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746838
[16:17] <Newk1> is it grub2?
[16:17] <Newk1> i heard there is quite a diffrence between the first and second
[16:19] <binaryhermit> *shrug*
[16:20] <Newk1> i try anyway, thanx
[16:23] <Newk1> binaryhermit: it installed grub.. i hope it works after a reboot :3
[16:23] <Newk1> cya!
[16:24] <binaryhermit> good luck
[18:01] <schnitzel-> hi, i need some software raid geeks help
[18:01] <schnitzel-> anyone?
[18:02] <schnitzel-> its about software raids in general (yes i red the stuff in the internetz) and whether they are bootable. performance also interests me.
[18:02] <phillw> schnitzel-: you will find raid geeks at #ubuntu-server
[18:03] <schnitzel-> perfect. thanks
[20:52] <robot__> robo123
[20:59] <Newk> binary hermit: thanx again, grub is working
[21:00] <Newk> *binaryhermit:
[21:01] <Newk> anyone know whats the deal with network connection being connected at eth0 but isnt listed at the Network Connections in preferences menu
[21:02] <Newk> ?
[21:03] <Unit193> What happens if you  sudo service network-manager restart  ?
[21:04] <binaryhermit> Newk,  works for me, but I'm on Saucy, and I wouldn't recommend going to Saucy just to fix that
[21:04]  * Newk tries that
[21:05] <Newk> network-manager stop/waiting
[21:05] <Newk> network-manager start/running, process 3913
[21:06] <Newk> am i still here?
[21:08] <Newk> i did add an entry in Network Connections for eth0... but it states to never been connected
[21:08] <Unit193> Meh, that's not really bad, mine did or does that and it's not a problem.
[21:09] <Unit193> binaryhermit: Know if wireless auto-(re)connects in saucy?
[21:11] <Newk> seems like i have no DHCP for this computer now
[21:13] <binaryhermit> Unit; It should, once you have it configured to know the network?
[21:14] <Unit193> Should, but stopped with some update in Quantal, and persists in Raring.
[21:24] <Newk> so what differs network-manager from Network Connections ?
[21:25] <Newk> this is confusing to say the least
[21:25] <Newk> it is connected... but then again its not
[21:31] <Newk> i try what it does after a reboot now
[21:31] <Newk> have a nice one!


[00:22] <stefano-palazzo> jcastro, Let me know what you think, once you've checked out today's improvements to the lens. It's build and ready to be upgraded.
[00:22] <stefano-palazzo> Who has implemented the HorizontalTileRenderer? I want to thank them :-)
[02:32] <nkiesel1> just upgraded my netbook to 11.04, and still struggling with unity. Is this the right place to ask some usage/usability questions?
[02:33] <coz_> nkiesel1,  more likely in #ubuntu+1
[02:33] <coz_> nkiesel1,  not sure who is there at this time but that would be the channel
[02:33] <nkiesel1> thanks, will try there
[03:00] <nkiesel1> asked there and someone told me "really looks like a bug, see if you interest a developer ...".  Problem is that none of the hotkeys (e.g. <Alt>F1 or even mouse in top-left corner) work if the screen shows an app (e.g. firefox) in fullscreen mode
[03:01] <nkiesel1> (and using full-screen mode because it's a netbook with limited resolution)
[03:07] <coz_> nkiesel1,  not sure where everyone here is located ,, aka time zones,, so I dont know who is atually at their systems
[03:18] <nkiesel1> coz_: understood
[03:18] <coz_> cool
[03:30] <nkiesel1> coz_: just found out that <super>d works to show the desktop (with the unity taskbar visible) even in full-screen mode
[03:31] <coz_> nkiesel1,  very cool.. :)  is that tolerable for you?
[03:31] <nkiesel1> tried to make <super>f1 just show the taskbar using the unity plugin of ccsm, but that does not work for some reason
[03:31] <nkiesel1> yes, <super>d is good enough for me
[03:35] <coz_> nkiesel1,  cool  glad that was partially soved :)
[04:22] <Omega> Is it OK to mark these bugs as Fix Released? https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.8.2
[05:33] <doodoo> is there going to be a compiz release soon as there is this fglrx fix in trunk that can fix my ati card issues. thanks!
[10:27] <davidcalle> seiflotfy_, ping
[11:43] <coz_> good day all
[12:00] <AndreaAzzarone> coz_, good day
[12:00] <coz_> AndreaAzzarone,  hey guy
[12:22] <docx_cz_most> hello, could i ask here for something about unity shell in ubuntu 11.04 beta1?
[12:28] <docx_cz_most> is there some way to change app shortcuts in panel appeared by clicking to "ubuntu button"? (this http://img705.imageshack.us/i/unityshortcuts.png/) thanks.
[12:29] <docx_cz_most> I discovered that gnome's preferred application settings affect this but only web and email.. but where is stored other two?
[12:51] <zniavre> good afternnnon , im wondering why launcher background is hardcoded and panel, panel-shadow are not ?
[12:56] <zniavre> how to change the color of the menu button when attention is needed please ?
[12:57] <Daekdroom> zniavre, panel color used to be hardcoded.
[12:57] <Daekdroom> There was a single bug report regarding launcher and panel. They split it into two.
[12:58] <zniavre> ha so no way to modify it easely  :o)
[12:58] <Daekdroom> You can replace obscure image files like they do with Gnome shell :P
[13:05] <Dart> Is there a filter for wine apps in dash?
[15:58] <engla> 3rd party dev question here: is there a way for my app (kupfer) to tell the unity dock that it's running, even if its window is hidden
[16:09] <jfi> Hello, is attended that menu table does not work with appindicator?
[16:17] <jfi> it appears that call adding menu item with gtk_menu_attach does take attention to the cols parameters while used with an appindicator menu
[16:17] <jfi> *does not
[19:06] <NateW> is anyone around?
[19:16] <DBO> ping artfwo
[19:17] <DBO> NateW, whats up?
[19:18] <NateW> bug #688816 has not been fixed
[19:18] <NateW> the windows still draw 1px too far to the left and hide the launcher
[19:19] <DBO> NateW, i pushed a fix to trunk late last night
[19:19] <NateW> so different from yesterdays update?
[19:20] <DBO> unfortunately yes
[19:20] <DBO> i found the bug and resolved it
[19:20] <NateW> awesome. just wanted to make sure that the bug wasnt sticking around for some cases
[19:20] <DBO> NateW, next release should see you right
[19:20] <NateW> thanks
[20:03] <docx_cz_most> Hi, is there some way to change app shortcuts in panel appeared by clicking to "ubuntu button"? (this http://img705.imageshack.us/i/unityshortcuts.png/) Thank you
[20:03] <docx_cz_most> In ubuntu 11.04 beta
[20:18] <Alex--> Hello
[20:18] <Alex--> I have a idea for Unity
[20:20] <kim0> Hi folks, I have done "unity --reset" .. got some errors about plugins that couldn't be loaded .. and I still can't alt+tab between windows .. any help ?
[20:27] <kim0> hmm .. it seems installing the package "
[20:27] <kim0> compiz-plugins-main resolved the issue .. perhaps it should be added as a dependency
[20:32] <htorque> DBO: hi, does this output from geis-tools mean that i can't help with multitouch testing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588589/
[20:32] <DBO> htorque, i am not sure really
[20:33] <DBO> if you run geistest and do a 4 finger tap
[20:33] <htorque> the three finger tap gets interpreted as middle click and does nothing but put the window in the background
[20:33] <DBO> does it register a 4 finger tap?
[20:34] <htorque> DBO, nope shows the same output
[20:35] <DBO> sorry :/
[20:37] <htorque> nw, not your fault ;-)
[21:29] <Omega> Is it OK to mark these bugs as Fix Released? https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.8.2