[10:10] <caribou> Hello,
[10:11] <caribou> Is it normal that the network installation kernels in netboot.tar.gz higher than 4.15.0-20 do not have the NVME modules available ?
[10:15] <caribou> I need a newer kernel for installation to work around LP: #1767992 but cannot see my NVMe on the host with kernels 4.15.0-60 and/or 5.3.0-18
[11:18] <apw> caribou, how are you installing the kernel
[11:19] <apw> nvme might be built-in, or are you missing -extras and it is in ther
[11:22] <caribou> that's the installation kernel so it is started by a PXE boot (it's a network install), hence it just runs busybox
[11:22] <caribou> apw: ^
[11:23] <caribou> I suspect that it has moved to -extra, but this one is not available at the first phases of network installation
[11:23] <caribou> (I thought of checking here first before opening a bug on this)
[11:31] <apw> ack


[07:52] <zequence_> Last week wasn't that fruitful for me. Let's hope this one is better.
[07:52] <zequence> I'd roll upp my sleeves, had it not been too damn hot for them.
[08:13] <zequence> Funny that Xubuntu would introduce a new -core meta.
[08:14] <zequence> It's not as barebone as the lubuntu core. Seems to have most of what we need, so I'm thinking it would be good for our smaller ISO.
[13:07] <OvenWerks> zequence: welcome back.
[13:53] <zequence> OvenWerks: Thanks
[13:53] <zequence> So far, from what I understand, the control option REPLACES is only useful when making a package conflict with another
[13:54] <zequence> Haven't read much about it, tbh.
[19:52] <OvenWerks> zequence: I think it matters what order packages are installed too. For example we have to have the ISO creator see the av extra packages before it gets to the packages that depend on the the non-extra packages.
[19:54] <OvenWerks> I am not sure that apt-get is so picky... or at least it is possible to have it defer looking at depends untill it has looked at all the packages in it's install list... or even not at all.
[19:55] <OvenWerks> Systray is acting up. The system tray icon for qjackctl is only showing up sometimes in the past few days.
[20:10] <OvenWerks> Hmm, seems to be something to do with rebooting VS. logout/in. Works fine on reboot.
[20:11] <OvenWerks> That probably means timing as the machine is bussier at boot, I would think.
[20:12] <OvenWerks> As a note I have it starting as a session service at session start. It seems to be fine if started sometime after a login.
[20:15] <OvenWerks> I have been working with jackdbus as my session soundserver by default which seems very solid. Pulse still takes care of desktop sound but has been set not to see any audio interfaces so that when jack is not there it defaults to dummy sink.
[20:26] <OvenWerks> I was thinking of suggesting this as the default setup for Studio, but wanted to live with it for sometime first. I am using qjackctl to start jack and a2jmidid, but a script may be better, It can be tuned to work with other things such as pulse. Right now I have to get qjackctl to start jackdbus in a similar time as apulseaudio -k. A script could be named such that jack was already up and running before pulse tried to start.
[20:27] <OvenWerks> (or delayed till pulse is fully functional)


[14:27] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:28] <Unit193> Good morning charlie-tca!
[17:10] <micahg> ochosi: BTW, Debian took the Shimmer patches for gmusicbrowser
[17:11] <charlie-tca> images seem to be working today. At least both alternate images installed! and, mr_pouit, great job on the colors. Thanks again.
[17:32] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: We got something wrong with the workspaces. Now both alternate and desktop images give a single workspace in Virtualbox installations. Live cd has two workspaces.
[20:09] <ochosi> micahg: hey, how come?
[20:10] <micahg> ochosi: because they're nice?
[20:10] <ochosi> micahg: you mean debian or the patches?
[20:11] <micahg> ochosi: Debian :)
[20:12] <ochosi> micahg: hm, tbh i really would've preferred debian to keep the upstream version and only xubuntu have the patched version
[20:12] <micahg> ochosi: why?
[20:12] <ochosi> micahg: i don't wanna piss off the upstream dev by going around him and submitting my patches (that he knows about) to distros "behind his back"
[20:13] <micahg> ochosi: they grabbed it :)
[20:13] <ochosi> micahg: you mean just like that?
[20:13] <micahg> ochosi: yep, I didn't do it :)
[20:13] <ochosi> woot?
[20:13] <micahg> yep
[20:14] <ochosi> how the hell, i mean who the hell...
[20:14] <micahg> although now, I'm tempted to try to just put everything through Debian next cycle
[20:14] <micahg> alessio
[20:14] <ochosi> hmm, not sure, really wanna talk to squentin first
[20:14] <ochosi> it's really imperative for me that he's happy with it
[20:15] <ochosi> and i'm not all sure i would be if i were in his place
[20:15] <micahg> ochosi: well, if it's in Ubuntu, there's pretty much no reason not to have it back in Debian
[20:17] <ochosi> micahg: i'm not sure i agree, debian is ubuntu's upstream, not the other way round
[20:18] <ochosi> micahg: and: i specifically talked to squentin about patching gmb for ubuntu, but i also said at the time that it was only about ubuntu
[20:19] <ochosi> micahg: he agreed on that, but now it looks a bit like i'm a douche
[20:20] <ochosi> micahg: hope you understand my position in this
[20:21] <micahg> ochosi: well, I can talk to alessio and get it reversed in Debian if it's a big deal
[20:22] <charlie-tca> ochosi, micahg, mr_pouit : we only get 1 workspace from any image now when installing.
[20:22] <charlie-tca> live cd has two workspaces
[20:23] <ochosi> micahg: i
[20:23] <ochosi> micahg: i'll first talk to squentin about it and see what he thinks/how he reacts
[20:23] <ochosi> charlie-tca: strange, i just added a new testuser to natty two days ago and got two workspaces
[20:23] <charlie-tca> fresh install only gives one
[20:24] <ochosi> hm, this is a really strange bug
[20:25] <ochosi> charlie-tca: i'm currently on a work-trip (till wednesday), i hope i'll have time to try a fresh install when i'm back and maybe we can debug it a bit and narrow it down
[20:25] <charlie-tca> okay, but we got beta1 release on Thursday
[20:25] <ochosi> hmm
[20:26] <Sysi> i'll try
[20:26] <ochosi> yeah, but i really can't do more testing here @hotel... :(
[20:26] <Sysi> 1H to download..
[20:26] <ochosi> good luck Sysi
[20:26] <charlie-tca> I understand that one. It will be fine. We need to make sure we get it fixed for the beta2, though, please.
[20:26] <Sysi> charlie-tca: alternate/desktop both?
[20:26] <charlie-tca> both
[20:27] <ochosi> charlie-tca: is there a bugreport for that already?
[20:27] <charlie-tca> um, nope
[20:27] <Sysi> i'd like to see colours of alternate but it's unsure on usb :/
[20:27] <charlie-tca> just me compaining daily
[20:27] <charlie-tca> the colors suck, we get a pink background with the orange and purple/pink/grey text
[20:28] <charlie-tca> but after the install, colors are good now!
[20:29] <charlie-tca> I will have to try some hardware installs this weekend, to see what I get now. Then I will file the bug.
[20:35] <micahg> ochosi: you can tell him you and I didn't do this, but in the end, it's open source and Debian can do what it wants with it
[20:37] <ochosi> micahg: hmyeah, i'll see what replies
[22:05] <Sysi> ubiquity still isn't nice, but i really like graybird
[22:06] <knome> ubiquity isn't nice?
[22:06] <charlie-tca> ubiquity uses the Ubuntu default colors, but once installed, we don't have to look at them again.
[22:07] <knome> you don't mean the slideshow, right?
[22:07]  * charlie-tca don't mean the slideshow
[22:07] <Sysi> i haven't got that far yet
[22:07] <charlie-tca> that background behind it, and the installer up to it
[22:08] <Sysi> "custom partitioning" is now "something else", popup about keyboard settings is stupid and with 512MB ram I/O get so bad that mouse isn't moving because of swapping
[22:09] <charlie-tca> yup, but at least you can now upgrade from the cd, right?
[22:10] <charlie-tca> custom partitioning is "manual partitioning" now, isn't it?
[22:10] <charlie-tca> you can have "side-by-side", "upgrade", "full-disk", or the bottom one, which I think is "manual"
[22:11] <Sysi> for me it said "something else"
[22:11] <charlie-tca> What language are you installing in?
[22:11] <Sysi> i think that wasn't even translated..
[22:11]  * charlie-tca might not have read it all
[22:11] <Sysi> too much english, i can't really remember
[22:12] <charlie-tca> I will do another install and try to read it
[22:12] <Sysi> KB bug propably will be fixed
[22:12] <Sysi> ("bug")
[22:12] <charlie-tca> I like filing bugs for bad wording
[22:36] <Sysi> i have two workspaces, installed from current daily-live
[22:39] <charlie-tca> hm, hardware right?
[22:39] <charlie-tca> definitely a very weird bug
[22:40] <Sysi> yeah, hw
[22:40] <charlie-tca> Sysi: thanks for doing the install. At least it is not just me :-)
[22:41]  * charlie-tca did installs in VBox, got one workspace, did installs on hardware, did not believe there could be two workspaces.


 I will not be standing again, FWIW.
[21:48] <valorie> I miss you tsimonq2! but it is understandable
[21:48] <valorie> RikMills, cool
[21:49] <valorie> I neglected to mention that we spent a few days at our cabin over Labor Day (and we did labor!) with no internet and very little cell coverage


[04:48] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Linus Torvalds Announces Massive Linux Kernel 5.8 Update @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/linus-torvalds-announces-massive-linux-kernel-5-8-update-530256.shtml (by Bogdan Popa, Microsoft News Editor)
[06:19] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: David Tomaschik: Private CA with X.509 Name Constraints @ https://systemoverlord.com/2020/06/14/private-ca-with-x-509-name-constraints.html
[08:24] <guiverc> belated Bashing-om, but minor edit (s/date/dates/ in last KDE article in blogo); noted in gdoc
[08:25]  * guiverc knows Bashing-om isn't here... noted for log should Bashing-om check there
[08:28] <guiverc> only comment, otherwise looks good :)
[13:29] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Entangle 3.0 Released, Improves Tethered DSLR Shooting on Linux @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=184386 (by Joey Sneddon)
[15:51] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: OVHcloud drives flash storage strategy with LXD @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/ovhcloud-drives-flash-storage-strategy-with-lxd
[16:07] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Jonathan Riddell: OpenUK Future Leaders Online Talk on Friday @ https://jriddell.org/2020/06/15/openuk-future-leaders-online-talk-on-friday/
[16:16] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Jonathan Riddell: KDE Applications Release Meta-data @ https://jriddell.org/2020/06/15/kde-applications-release-meta-data/
[18:33] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Marcin Juszkiewicz: OpenDev CI speed-up for AArch64 @ https://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2020/06/15/opendev-ci-speed-up-for-aarch64/
[19:17] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: New PinePhone Community Edition is Preloaded with postmarketOS and Phosh @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=184419 (by Joey Sneddon)
[19:22] <Bashing-om> UWN: Pulling "WIP" - noted the edit: time to push 20:00 GMT.
[20:00] <Bashing-om> UWN: ubuntu-news@lists is away - doing the Forum post next.
[20:16] <Bashing-om> UWN: Forum post done - update sections abridged for excess. Doing the re-directs next.
[20:34] <Bashing-om> UWN: re-directs done - pending is the social media postings. Wildman is out of pocket this day.
[21:44] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: The Blank Folder (Small Things that Bug Me in Ubuntu) @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=184480 (by Joey Sneddon)
[22:30] <Bashing-om> Away for a spell.
[22:38] <guiverc> grrr my chromium has lost everything again...   but I can push #635 to fridge on firefox Bashing-om
[23:10] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Life's little problems - Hope you have backups :D
[23:13] <guiverc> not worth backing up... just inconvenient ... push #635 to fridge?  (ready for me to push 'publish')
[23:14] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yup push - no issues known :)
[23:14] <guiverc> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/06/15/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-635/
[23:15] <guiverc> tweeted too  (via firefox again)
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Fridge: Looks good and spot check - checks good too :D
[23:16] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Wild_Man Clear Gdoc now ?
[23:17] <guiverc> yep.
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Anything on the Gdoc you want to look at - before I wipe ?
[23:23] <Bashing-om> ^^ never mind wildman left - wiping Gdoc ATT.
[23:25] <guiverc> posted on fb too
[23:28] <Bashing-om> UWN: We do issue 636 :D
[23:46] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 635 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2020/06/15/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-635/


[00:47] <Craigwdy2k> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent package for bluez-firmware...?  I'm starting to think that this PC might benefit from it...
[00:53] <Craigwdy2k> If not do I need to add a specific Debian Testing Repo to my /etc/apt/sources.list file in order to get the firmware loaded...?  I just tried doing a very generic Ubuntu package search for bluez & bluez-firmware is no where to be found...
[00:55] <Craigwdy2k> My main goal is to update my HP Integrated Module with Bluetooth Wireless Technology to whatever their latest firmware release is...
[01:13] <adam__> how do I install xubuntu over gnome in Ubuntu 10.04?
[01:14] <Dasleah> just install the xcfe4 packages
[01:14] <Dasleah> log out, and you can change the session at the login screen at the bottom
[01:14] <Dasleah> which is at least what i'm doing :V
[01:14] <Dasleah> *xfce4
[01:15] <adam__> Dasleah: (Sorry I'm a noob) What do you mean by change the session? Do you mean it gives me an option at login?
[01:15] <Dasleah> you'll notice at the login screen, down the bottom
[01:15] <Dasleah> it has like a bar full of options
[01:15] <Dasleah> you'll see one with something like 'GNOME' in it
[01:15] <Dasleah> that's a dropdown list and once you've installed xfce4, you can choose that from there
[01:15] <adam__> So I can have 2 different desktop environments installed, and switch between the two? Niiice.
[01:16] <Dasleah> yep
[01:16] <adam__> XFCE has a right click menu right? Like fluxbox?
[01:16] <Dasleah> well i don't know fluxbox so
[01:16]  * Dasleah shrug
[01:16] <Dasleah> everything should work if it's installed right
[01:17] <adam__> Well, I mean, you can right click on the desktop and it gives you the 'start' menu right there.
[01:17] <Dasleah> oh yeah, it does that
[01:18] <adam__> Right on. That's what fluxbox does. I really like fluxbux but ubuntu doesn't have a fluxbux derivative. Mint does though, but only for x86.
[01:19] <adam__> So installing xfce isn't going to screw up my gnome DE at all, right?
[01:19] <psycho_oreos> it shouldn't if its installed correctly
[01:20] <adam__> Well, I'm stalling from Synaptic package manager so it should install correctly, right?
[01:20] <Dasleah> it should
[01:21] <Dasleah> usual caveats of 'something could always go horribly wrong' apply but i haven't had any issues with it
[01:21] <Dasleah> it'd be worth getting the xfce4-goodies package as well since it's not a straight xubuntu install
[01:22] <Dasleah> adds some nice general tweaks and additions
[01:22] <adam__> I've been watching xubuntu videos on youtube and no one ever shows the fluxbox like Right Click menu - which is one of the coolest features!
[01:23] <psycho_oreos> xfce has similar feature to fluxbox on that matter but its not the exact same
[01:23] <adam__> Dasleah psycho_oreos - Thanks. I appreciate it. Any other suggestions?
[01:23] <Dasleah> none that i can really think of
[01:23] <adam__> psycho_oreos: Do you know how fluxbox and xfce differ?
[01:24] <Dasleah> i only installed this morning myself :V
[01:24] <psycho_oreos> adam__, if you want to get rid of gnome completely, there is a link I could give which may work if you want to transition across to xfce
[01:24] <Dasleah> i wouldn't mind that link myself
[01:24] <adam__> psycho_oreos: mmmm: well, If I decide to do that, I might just reformat, but I wouldn't mind checking out that link anyway.
[01:24] <Dasleah> i'll probably keep gnome just for the rare chance something breaks eventually but you never know
[01:25] <psycho_oreos> adam__, there's a few things, fluxbox has the whole config settings available on right click whereas xfce4 doesn't, fluxbox technically lacks lots of frontend apps which allows one to make up whatever that's needed (at least from what I've experienced in archlinux) and the transparency hack on fluxbox isn't as great as for example on xfce4
[01:25] <psycho_oreos> hang on lemme find that link
[01:26] <psycho_oreos> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[01:27] <Dasleah> thanks
[01:27] <psycho_oreos> nw
[01:28] <psycho_oreos> fluxbox however is lighter than xfce4 imo, it removes lots of deps because it lacks lots of frontend stuff
[01:30] <adam__> psycho_oreos - Yeah, thanks for the link. I acutally like fluxbox look better. I'm sort of sick of panels.
[01:31] <psycho_oreos> adam__, it doesn't stop you from going your own way into compiling fluxbox on ubuntu if needed be :)
[01:31] <adam__> In fact, I would be fine with gnome if I could just get a right click menu and remove my panels. Do you know how to get right click to show the full menu in gnome?
[01:32] <psycho_oreos> nope, I haven't used gnome for quite sometime, but you can do the same in xfce4, just that the aftermath of doing so would be quite nasty
[01:34] <adam__> psycho_oreos: why would it be nasty? Do your really need a panel? Can't you just docky to show open apps? I would be ok with a panel that just had the open windows on it.
[01:35] <psycho_oreos> adam__, well like I said, xfce4 isn't completely panel independent. Although the right click menu it features has some accessibility but it doesn't provide a complete feature to that effect would one not really require panels
[01:37] <psycho_oreos> and no I haven't tried docks on xfce4
[01:37] <adam__> Flux box contains a full menu Applicatoins, Places, System, file manager and other shortcuts. Its really convenient.
[01:38] <psycho_oreos> xfce4 has similar to that but won't get complete access into for example customising the time or the transparency, the window border settings, etc
[01:39] <adam__> CrunchBang is a pretty sweet distro. It used to be based on ubuntu. It uses openbox. Very nice design of the desktop them. Sweet distro that.
[01:39] <psycho_oreos> and accessing to places, file manager for example is a little awkward.. you might be able to customise it but I haven't done so
[01:40] <adam__> psycho_oreos: Mmm. Can you create shortcuts in the 'right click' menu to those things?
[01:40] <psycho_oreos> adam__, I suppose you could but don't quote me on that, I haven't really explored that far :)
[01:41] <psycho_oreos> plus I'm using an older version of xubuntu which has older version of xfce4 to begin with
[01:42] <adam__> psycho_oreos: well. I suppose I don't mind having one panel with a few button on it as long as I get a workable right click menu so that I don't have to drag my courser all the way up into the corner just to open something.
[01:43] <adam__> psycho_oreos: I'm going to try it out anyway.
[01:43] <psycho_oreos> adam__, yeah I see what you mean there, hence your dislike of panels but I personally don't mind using panels for the time being. Hence I have never bothered to making full right click menu accessibility the fluxbox lookalike effect
[01:45] <psycho_oreos> I suppose my day will come once I get a big tv with massive resolution :) but for the time being I just use mouse acceleration/sensitivity to minimise the excessive mouse moving effect
[01:45] <adam__> psycho_oreos: Should I install the Smart Package Manager Plugin for xfce4? Or should I just let Ubuntu gnome handle updates.
[01:46] <psycho_oreos> adam__, that I don't know again :) I suppose it depends on how often you will end up using xfce4
[01:47] <adam__> 131 MB of installations related to xfce
[01:52] <adam__> psycho_oreos: Ok. Done installing. I'm going to restart and play around. =) Thanks!
[01:52] <Dasleah> have fun
[01:53] <psycho_oreos> adam__, enjoy :)
[02:03]  * helpmeob1 waves at everyone! Hello.
[02:06] <helpmeob1> Does anyone happen to know the appropriate steps to achieve total user deletion? I am currently trying to delete a user off of my laptop running xubuntu, but receive a message stating that the user is not logged off, after running the 'sudo deluser ____' command. Any ideas?
[02:15] <adam__> Well, my suggestion to anyone with a dual monitor set up is that you DON'T install xfce4 along side gnome. because now my dual monitor setup isn't working at all, and I can't figure out why.
[02:17] <adam__> Any suggestions?
[02:18] <adam__> Both of my monitors are set up in Monitor Preferences. My secondary monitor isn't getting a signal.
[02:22] <bazhang> using xrandr?
[02:22] <bazhang> ah he quit
[04:02] <theixle> Is it possible that my dsl modem/router's firewall is preventing me (in ubuntu) from printing to a windows shared printer?
[07:47] <Guest72788> hello. First time in this chat room. Need help with login issue:
[07:50] <Guest72788> changed language setting from english to persian
[07:50] <Guest72788> now I cannot login at all
[07:50] <Guest72788> any idea how I can recover from this?
[07:51] <Dasleah> what do you mean 'cannot login'
[07:52] <Guest72788> The password prompt is starting right to left
[07:53] <Dasleah> type your password in backwards? :V
[07:53] <Dasleah> try changing the keyboard
[07:53] <Guest72788> and when I enter the password I get: Authentication failure
[07:53] <Guest72788> I change from farsi to english but the screen does not change
[07:53] <Guest72788> it stays the same
[07:54] <Dasleah> and it still gives you the auth issue with the changed keyboard?
[07:55] <Guest72788> I assume you mean change keyboard layout. It does not change layout. it stays the same
[07:55] <Dasleah> well the screen may not change no, but still try it anyway
[07:56] <Guest72788> that worked!
[07:56] <Dasleah> hoorah
[07:56] <Guest72788> I feel a bit silly...thank you very much!
[07:57] <Dasleah> no problem
[07:57] <Guest72788> bye
[07:57] <Dasleah> we all make mistakes
[07:57] <Guest72788> i guess i expected the keyboard to go left to right when I changed layout...Now I know better
[07:57] <Guest72788> thanks again.
[07:57] <Dasleah> heh
[08:13] <FusionX> Guys help plz! -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543
[08:55] <FusionX> i recently installed xubuntu 10.4 using wubi under my windows C: drive (4 GB). Now sometimes after booting up xubuntu, the screen crashes at random times and starts blinking white stripes on half of the screen. And also when xubuntu boots up the logo appears very pixelly and looks as if it is run in safe mode and before the logo appears a quick green color flashes on the screen. My xorg.0.log --> http://pastebin.com/uAy3NS4f . I use Samsung syncmaste
[09:08] <speezaker> hi everyone :)
[09:08] <speezaker> i would need little help plz
[09:09] <knome> !ask | speezaker
[09:09] <knome> FusionX, have you tested the live cd?
[09:09] <FusionX> knome : no
[09:09] <knome> FusionX, i suggest doing that
[09:09] <FusionX> but the earlier version of ubuntu 9.10 i had was working very well
[09:10] <speezaker> i've got this error during boot  Kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0), what can i do ?
[09:13] <speezaker> i installed xubuntu, resolved an error with nvidia drivers, rebooted well and made the updates with the automtic updater (next ot the clock) and the reboot as asked by the updater and got this error
[14:26] <dirty-harry> hi there, anyone here who knows how to activate the desktop-icon-starter-reaction in xubuntu lucid lynx; option "give visual reaction is marked"
[14:40] <Dblthunder> Hello everyone, I need help loading ubuntu, i tried to install to a preset partition formatted with fat 32, says I do not have a root? installed, do I need to load a file into the partition prior to loading ubuntu?
[14:42] <Dblthunder> also I have win  7 64 in a separate partition and a swap partition of 10 gigs formated in ntfs
[14:42] <ToStItOs> Why are updates noted as "not authenticated"?
[14:51] <Sysi> !installing | Dblthunder
[14:51] <Sysi> ToStItOs: what updates?
[14:52] <ToStItOs> updates from update manager
[15:00] <Dblthunder> In setting up a dual boot I created a partition on  gigs formated in fat 32, when I tried to install i chose the option to specify partitions manually, this is when I was unable to load it to the partition because it said some root (something) was missing,
[15:03] <Dblthunder> if this is not the correct forum for this type question, please direct me to the correct forum for english, note: i have been reading for days prior to this, thanks thanks
[15:06] <Sysi> Dblthunder: format at least 6GB partition to ext4 and install xubuntu there
[15:07] <Sysi> mount point " / "
[15:07] <Sysi> ignore " 's
[15:08] <Dblthunder> the partition is  15 gig, I should choose the ext4 option? when picking the partition?
[15:08] <Sysi> yes
[15:08] <Sysi> you really should not install *buntu to fat32 partition
[15:09] <Sysi> ext3 or ext4
[15:09] <Dblthunder> ok, I think I understand, thanks
[16:49] <Dblthunder> Someone helped me earlier today on a dual win 7 Ubuntu installation, sorry I do not remember the person's name but wanted to say thanks, despite this being a tad over my head I was able to load win 7 64 and Ubuntu 64 on machine this weekend, again thanks to who every helped me earlier.
[16:56] <TheSheep> Dblthunder: I think it was Sysi :)
[16:57]  * Sysi pokes TheSheep
[16:57] <Sysi> c'mon
[16:57] <Dblthunder> Well thanks to sysi!!!
[18:18] <Arpad2> hello
[18:18] <Arpad2> !kb
[18:19] <Arpad2> !k3b
[18:20] <Arpad2> k3b works fine , but after writing dvd and ejecting the disc the pc freezes ,
[18:21] <jarlg> I'm currently running a liveCD - how do I access "Computer" (as in, I see different drives)? Is there a package I must install?
[18:28] <Guest25259> hi
[18:30] <Guest25259> hi
[18:32] <Arpad2> jarlg : i think you have to mount your hard drives
[18:35] <jarlg> Arpad2: Manually, via the terminal+
[18:35] <jarlg> Arpad2: In f.ex. gnome, you can see unmounted drives under nautilus' "Computer"-tab.
[18:38] <Sysi> thunar doesn't have that
[18:38] <Sysi> you could try adding mount plugin to panel
[18:38] <Sysi> !mount
[18:39] <Sysi> also
[18:41] <Anom01y> jarlg,
[18:41] <jarlg> Okay. thanks :)
[18:41] <Anom01y> you there ? I run Nautilus in Xubuntu, however, to prevent it from taking over your desktop you have to run it
[18:42] <Anom01y> like this
[18:42] <Anom01y> nautilus --no-desktop
[18:42] <Anom01y> I also renamed my /usr/bin/nautilus to /usr/bin/nautilus2
[18:42] <Anom01y> so
[18:42] <Anom01y> nautilus2 --no-desktop
[18:42] <Anom01y> (sudo mv /usr/bin/nautilus /usr/bin/nautilus2)
[18:42] <Anom01y> becuase it conflicts with the xfce desktop
[18:43] <Anom01y> and likes to run in the background ect.
[18:43] <Anom01y> I found this method prevents it from doing that
[18:44] <Anom01y> its way better than thunar
[18:44] <Anom01y> and you can get plugins also for it that resize pictures, and send-to menu option
[18:47] <FusionX> Can anyone help me with this problem? --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577543 HELP ME PLEASE!
[18:49] <jarlg> Anom0ly;: thanks :)
[19:05]  * Itsrelative waves at everyone! 'ello.
[20:33] <Name141> does Xubuntu have a min CD also ?
[20:34] <knome> no, the minimal cd is not "branded" at all
[20:34] <knome> since it doesn't install gnome, xfce or kde, it's the same for all.
[20:34] <Name141> OK. So getting the minCD, I would be able to select if I even wanted a GUI, etc?
[20:35] <Name141> Without loads of packages coming along
[20:35] <Name141> right?
[20:35] <knome> Name141, yes, you'll be able to select whatever you want, including xfce.
[20:36] <Name141> knome: Would that be best if I just want to use the machine as a file server?  Or is it possible to remove all the extra junk from a desktop ISO install ?
[20:36] <Name141> (ssh and samba)
[20:36] <knome> Name141, if you're willing to use some time to installing only the bare stuff you need, minimal is probably better. remind you, there's also ubuntu server
[20:37] <Name141> True.  But wouldn't that install extra stuff also? Like apache, etc?
[20:38] <knome> i think you can select whether you want to install apache in the installation of server, but i'm not sure. then again, you could just remove that as well
[20:38] <knome> #ubuntu-server knows better about that :)
[20:38] <Name141> OK
[20:45] <lighta> hi guys, having an issue with my grub. /boot/grub/menu/lst doesn't affect it :(
[20:45] <knome> !grub2
[20:46] <knome> lighta, besides, even if you were using grub 1, it should be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:47] <lighta> oh right I just write it badly
[20:48] <lighta> ok I saw good config was in cfg but first line was : DO NOT EDIT..
[20:50] <lighta> ok thx knome found all infos, now need edit
[21:07] <freaky[t]> hi all. how can i update xubuntu to the current beta?
[21:11] <CalmDownKidder> Hey :) - anyone got the time/inclination to help a newb out please?
[21:11] <knome> !ask | CalmDownKidder
[21:11] <knome> freaky[t], 'sudo update-manager -d', iirc, but please remember it's not supported/suggested for production machines yet
[21:12] <freaky[t]> thank you
[21:13] <CalmDownKidder> Fair enough - I've just put xubuntu on a Toshiba 1800-354S - the Toshiba website says the native resolution is 1024x768, but on xubuntu I can only seem to get 800x600 max - is there a way to show the full 1024x768 res?
[21:15] <CalmDownKidder> I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but this didn't seem to sort it
[23:25] <[Nord]> Hi, a probably easy question for most of you: Where can I access the computer's HDD with Xubuntu Live CD?
[23:32] <[Nord]> noone?
[23:36] <Dasleah> [Nord], let's try some google-fu http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-250165.html
[23:36] <Dasleah> the process should be the same for any Live CD
[23:38] <[Nord]> thanks, What I found was for Ubuntu, and mostly with clicking icons not existing here
[23:38] <Dasleah> well Xubuntu is just Ubuntu with a different front end
[23:39] <Dasleah> if you can find a command-line way to do it, it should work fine
[23:39] <Dasleah> but yeah, just start randomly clicking is always a good start :V
[23:44] <[Nord]> can I damage the ntfs file system with trying to mount it?
[23:46] <[Nord]> yeah, success \o/
[23:47] <Dasleah> hoorah
[23:47] <Dasleah> you shouldn't be able to /damage/ it just by mounting, but after that you can certainly dick with it
[23:47] <Dasleah> usual caveats of 'something could always go horribly wrong' apply of course
[23:57] <[Nord]> thanks for the help
[23:57] <Dasleah> no prob


[20:36] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: its a bad idea no matter what, there are other ways to accomplish that, prompting the user, or requiring and install parameter to create username/password
[20:36] <ubuntuuserhappy> ikonia: its common enough that bots are searching for ubuntu servers with the ubuntu/ubuntu user/pass combination to root kit them
[20:36] <ikonia> ubuntuuserhappy: sure there are better ways, if you want to log it, log it
[20:41] <jhutchins> ubuntuuserhappy: Without knowing more about the situation I would agree with you, but I'd be a bit surprised if that were really the default.
[20:43] <giannis> HI
[20:43] <giannis> HI
[20:44] <jhutchins> ubuntuuserhappy: Here's what I would do:  Do a fresh install and verify that this is in fact the default.  If it is, file a bugreport.
[20:44] <jhutchins> ubuntuuserhappy: If you find that it's a response you missed, it's still a hazard and you could report it.
[20:46] <AmbiguousOutlier> What is telepathy it is consuming 100% of one of my cores
[20:46] <ubuntuuserhappy> jhutchins: yeah, i think im going to do that, its very poorly documented in general, and I'm betting most people are like me and use the popular install scripts where the warning just gets lost
[20:46] <ubuntuuserhappy> jhutchins: yeah i did a fresh install with just the ubuntu installed program, its lxc-create with the ubuntu template that does it
[20:48] <asaranda> any idea beacus i can0t reach the host with the sock 5 enabled?
[20:49] <AmbiguousOutlier> is it safe to sudo apt-get remove telepathy
[20:49] <bekks> AmbiguousOutlier: If you want to uninstall telepathy, then yes.
[20:50] <AmbiguousOutlier> bekks
[20:50] <bekks> AmbiguousOutlier: Look out for other applications that might be uninstalled prior pressing "y".
[20:50] <AmbiguousOutlier> bekks: well it's consuming all my resources
[20:50] <jhutchins> ubuntuuserhappy: Ah, that makes better sense.  VMs tend to be more isolated from the 'net.
[20:51] <ubuntuuserhappy> jhutchins: well some vms, but I really doubt lxc vms are, i would bet servers is the primary use of them
[20:52] <AmbiguousOutlier> what's telepathy got to do with irc?
[20:56] <hikmat> plain ks parameter is not supported at Ubuntu boot prompt. Am I wrong?
[20:57] <ikonia> what parameter ?
[20:57] <quants> hi guys, im having trouble loading 12.04 lts onto my netbook. its currently running windows 7 starter
[20:58] <Beldar> Hi my computer does not boot, I have done no research, pleeeeeeeze help me. lol
[20:58] <Beldar> just a joke
[20:58] <ikonia> it's not very funny or helpful, so please don't
[20:59] <Beldar> just a representation of what we see by the minute here is all, I will not go any further.
[20:59] <michaelnorman> Ok, so.......
[20:59] <michaelnorman> Broken pipe, could not write
[21:00] <michaelnorman> usb as hdd
[21:00] <michaelnorman> opinions?
[21:00] <michaelnorman> I'll get the actual error
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> !details | michaelnorman
[21:00] <michaelnorman> new at irc, sry
[21:00] <michaelnorman> rats, anyway
[21:01] <Beldar> michaelnorman, we all start somewhere some details and context help.
[21:02] <michaelnorman> I am running Ubuntu (started with installing minimal install 30Mb iso, then installed ONLY ssh, apache minecraft server
[21:02] <michaelnorman> 13.04
[21:02] <michaelnorman> anyway
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> 13.04 isn't supported anymore. you need to upgrade.    where exactly are you seeing that message?
[21:02] <michaelnorman> Built the server out of a zombified laptop, core duo with one Gb Ram
[21:03] <michaelnorman> oh hi
[21:03] <michaelnorman> I am seeing it in application apachetop
[21:03] <michaelnorman> how is 12.04 supportecd and 13.04 not5?
[21:03] <michaelnorman> running in RL 3
[21:03] <SwedeMike> michaelnorman: becuae 12.04 is a LTS (Long Term Support)
[21:03] <felisfcatus> michaelnorman: 12.04 is LTS release
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> 12.04 is LTS (long term support) 13.04 only had 9 months support
[21:03] <SwedeMike> !lts
[21:03] <michaelnorman> oh
[21:04] <quants> Guys, im having trouble loading 12.04 lts onto my netbook. its currently running windows 7 starter. ive made a USB copy but i doesn't seem to want to load. ?? Sorry Im a newb.
[21:04] <felisfcatus> dammit, i really need to leanrn how those bot works
[21:04] <michaelnorman> quants; acer netbook?
[21:04] <Beldar> quants, THe usb does not boot?
[21:04] <jhutchins> felisfcatus: How did you make the USB?  Did you check the md5sum of the iso?
[21:05] <felisfcatus> jhutchins: uh, wrong person mate
[21:05] <jhutchins> felisfcatus: Sorry.
[21:05] <michaelnorman> a story about my acer netbook; ctl + Alt + Delete exactly 3 times for usb to show up in boot menu
[21:05] <jhutchins> quants: How did you make the USB?  Did you check the md5sum of the iso?
[21:06] <jhutchins> felisfcatus: /msg ubottu <factoid>
[21:06] <quants> michaelnorman  Beldar its a packard bell, details to follow, i cant work out why is doesnt work from usb.
[21:06] <felisfcatus> jhutchins: is there any way for me to get a list of factiods?
[21:07] <quants> jhutchins im a newb, not sure what that means?
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> felisfcatus: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[21:07] <michaelnorman> What is a broken pipe anyway? Obviously has to do with a data interupt
[21:08] <Beldar> !md5sum | quants
[21:08] <michaelnorman> Those netbooks can be so random
[21:08] <michaelnorman> teeency bios
[21:09] <Beldar> quants, Yu want to notice when people ask you multiple questions, and address them accordingly.
[21:09] <Beldar> You*
[21:10] <michaelnorman> quants still there?
[21:13] <quants> michaelnorman  Beldar  jhutchins, its a packard bell DOT SE, 1gb ram, 32-bit OS,
[21:13] <quants> im hear!
[21:15] <coventry> Sorry, RL caught up with me there for a moment.  Asking again:
[21:16] <coventry> I updated a 13.04 machine, and can't get past the encryption key challenge during boot.  I can mount the encrypted drive from a rescue disc by following the cryptsetup instructions "tact" gives in this URL.  How can I diagnose what's failing during boot?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868681&s=5adf91c296adb0844fdc1ddeb6c7d9ad&p=5448385#post5448385
[21:16] <coventry> hitsujiTMO asked what the output of "lspci -k" is.  It's at http://pastebin.com/Bhj3UUi9
[21:16] <Beldar> quants, The best questions here were asked by jhutchins can you answer these, "how did you load the iso to the usb, and have you checked the md5sum"
[21:17] <coventry> hikmat asked whether my keyboard is screwing up the passphrase: I'm using the same keyboard (the one built into the netbook) during rescue mode, so it's not a hugely likely explanation.
[21:18] <abstract> is there a way to refer to my router via a network interface, specifically to use with tcpdump for monitoring router port traffic
[21:18] <bekks> abstract: your router has to provide such a faciklity.
[21:18] <bekks> *facility
[21:19] <bekks> abstract: keep it in this channel please.
[21:20] <quants> michaelnorman  Beldar  jhutchins, im paying attention lol.  im just getting some info,  ok firstly, yes i just opened the boot menu and the sandisk usb hdd is top of the list.
[21:20] <abstract> noob question then, how do you do the username: reply thing ... cant find it on google? is there like a beginner guide?
[21:21] <GZA-Genius> I am running 14.04, I know its not supported or anything like that I just wanted to pop my head in and see if anyone else has come across this first, usually when I do a cold boot, when system has been off for a good amount of time, when I open the menu there are no applications listed when I type in any to search for them, or if I hit the application button filter it says sorry nothing matches... the usr/share/applications folder is still
[21:21] <GZA-Genius> l full with all the apps and I can run them from there but not the unity menu. Now the even stranger part if I reboot everything goes back to normal and is fine.
[21:21] <bekks> !ubuntu+1 | GZA-Genius
[21:21] <GZA-Genius> ubottu, thankyou!
[21:22] <quants> michaelnorman  Beldar  jhutchins http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop I got the download from hear !
[21:22] <ZeloZelos> join #ubuntu+1
[21:22] <rannonga> abstract: what do you mean username reply thing
[21:23] <abstract> when you just said that it says abstract: ... in red
[21:24] <GZA-Genius> ZeloZelos: got it tnx
[21:24] <rannonga> abstract just type the persons nick, it depends on the irc client what it does
[21:24] <abstract> rannonga: got it, thanks
[21:26] <quants> michaelnorman  Beldar  jhutchins if i enter the boot menu in windows by pressing F12 i see the USB, if i try and get that going it just starts to boot windows again
[21:26] <Beldar> quants, How did you put the iso on the usb?
[21:26] <Kakurady> Where do I file a bug about the "nouveau" display driver and suspend/resume?
[21:27] <Beldar> quants, The download is the iso you will see it on it's name if that helps.
[21:28] <Beldar> quants, Chances are your netbook is also 32 bit is the download 32 bit?
[21:30] <quants> can anybody give me the link I need to build a USB Install drive, i have made one already but im not sure its the correct file as its not working.?
[21:30] <mmf> unetbootin
[21:30] <mmf> I always use unetbootin and works perfectly
[21:30] <mmf> It's cross platform, so it should work for you, whatever OS you're running.
[21:31] <Beldar> quants, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:31] <Beldar> !who |mmf
[21:31] <quants> Bardar i downloaded the 32 bit info
[21:31] <Beldar> quants, You can tab complete nicks, try the unetbootin app to load the usb.
[21:32] <quants> ok Beldar
[21:32] <mmf> Beldar, quants, lol bardar..
[21:33] <Beldar> quants, Did you see the md5sum info from the bot to you?
[21:33] <quants> Beldar sorry im a little slow....
[21:33] <Beldar> mmf, What you posted was hardly helpful, no links and no nicks, it is not a lol on this channel.
[21:35] <mmf> Beldar, I said "lol" because I found funny that he called you Bardar instead of Beldar. Also, I don't think it was very hard for him to google "unetbootin".
[21:35] <skeepnit> what's the difference?
[21:35] <LeeMerriman> How do I get OpenGL working in Ubuntu? Game seems to be crashing due to a lack of it
[21:35] <gogy> I NEED HELP ! can someone please assist me in private window because its easier for me to follow and thanks
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: what GPU do you have?
[21:36] <mmf> Beldar, I didn't know about IRC "ettiquete", so I didn't tab his nick. If there were more people taking, I probably would have done that, but ya..
[21:36] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: GTX Titan
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: sudo lshw -C display ,will tell you
[21:36] <mmf> gogy, you should probably leave the question on this chat though, so we know if we're able to help you or not.
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Gogy: what is the issue, state your issue and people may advise
[21:37] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: product: GK110 [GeForce GTX Titan]
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: no Intel gpu as well.
[21:37] <werewolve> hello
[21:37] <quants> Beldar - this is the file - ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-i386 (1).iso
[21:37] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: Not according to that.
[21:38] <werewolve> my ubuntu does not have the eth0 drivers
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: what does it say after 'driver=' ?
[21:38] <werewolve> my ubuntu does not have the eth0 drivers, so i have to install it, can someone help me?
[21:38] <Xaitec> can someone help me fix ubuntu-one?
[21:38] <Beldar> quants, Cool, did you see the md5sum info from the bot as well.
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> werewolve: what Ethernet controller do you use?
[21:38] <malimbar> Xaitec: what's wrong with it?
[21:38] <werewolve> the one on mobo
[21:38] <werewolve> and  one wireless
[21:38] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: configuration: driver=nouveau (Also, Unity is hell.)
[21:39] <Beldar> !details | Xaitec
[21:39] <Xaitec> malimbar, it keeps pausing
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current ,then reboot
[21:39] <straemer> @Xaitec, I'm getting that problem too. Help on that would be nice :)
[21:39] <Xaitec> running ubuntu 13.10 x64
[21:39] <werewolve> 386
[21:40] <OerHeks> Xaitec, i think you suffer this bug too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/1282759
[21:40] <Xaitec> it worked fine and then when i added a folder it just keeps pausing
[21:40] <werewolve> i have 2 pc, one lap and a old box
[21:40] <werewolve> the ubuntu is 32
[21:41] <Xaitec> thats not cool p.q
[21:41] <werewolve> ubuntu 32 gets <IP_ADDRESS> and it should be 192.168.0.somesome
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> werewolve: sudo lshw cC network ,will tell you the Ethernet controller. Simply saying 'onboard' isnt precise enough
[21:41] <werewolve> thanks
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> werewolve: sorry
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> werewolve: sudo lshw -C network
[21:42] <werewolve> ok
[21:43] <quants> Beldar im so confused :(
[21:43] <werewolve> i have pci gigabit ethernet controller, realtek
[21:44] <idgar> help
[21:44] <idgar> oops
[21:44] <Beldar> quants, In what way?
[21:44] <trinode> I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but when virtualbox is installed my laptop uses 15W without virtualbox installed it uses < 9W, I'd totally expect it to be the case when VB is running / I have a VM booted, but this is simply installed, not running (except the kernel modules)
[21:44] <trinode> any ideas if that's somehow expected?
[21:45] <idgar> dude, virtualbox virtual machines always "tick" in front of the CPU
[21:45] <compdoc> trinode, must have installed some services that run. what does top show?
[21:45] <trinode> top shows nothing
[21:45] <bekks> Then something is broken, if top shows nothing :)
[21:46] <idgar> top must show virtualbox process
[21:46] <trinode> I'm almost convinced it kernel modules
[21:46] <trinode> idgar: VB IS NOT RUNNING
[21:46] <trinode> simply installed
[21:46] <trinode> and the kernel modules loaded
[21:46] <bekks> idgar: No. Not until a vm is running.
[21:46] <idgar> try ps aux | grep "virtualbox"
[21:46] <trinode> no vm or ui
[21:46] <bekks> trinode: Try unloading the kernel modules.
[21:46] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: Now I just have a blinking underscore
[21:46] <idgar> unloading the kernel modules can be a smart idea
[21:46] <idgar> quit
[21:47] <quants> Beldar ok, i think i have the correct file now, (ubuntu-12.04.4-desktop-i386 (1).iso), now what do i have to do with it to get it to load?  sorry information overload :)
[21:47] <vooze> Hey guys. I need to patch my system (or possible linux kernel) with the patch from this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64541 - how do I patch?
[21:48] <mmf> quants, Have you downloaded unetbootin?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> !patch | vooze
[21:49] <gogy> I have same as this problem  but with TP-link TLWN422G    http://askubuntu.com/questions/148459/12-04-bcm4312-and-aireplay-ng-airodump-ng
[21:50] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: I have nothing but a blinking _ on my screen now..
[21:50] <Beldar> quants, Try using unetbootin to put the iso on the usb http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: try booting to root recovery mode and run: nvidia-xconfig; reboot
[21:50] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: How?
[21:50] <Blanco_> re
[21:50] <hikmat> I am using this as late_command in ubuntu preseeding file but failing to execute what's wrong with this >>>>.d-i preseed/late_command string echo 'vagrant   ALL=(ALL)  ALL' >> /etc/sudoers && echo 'UseDNS no' >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config && mkdir /home/vagrant/.ssh && wget -O /home/vagrant/.ssh/authorized_keys 'https://raw.github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/master/keys/vagrant.pub' && chmod 755...
[21:50] <hikmat> .../home/vagrant/.ssh && chmod 644 /home/vagrant/.ssh/authorized_keys && chown -R vagrant:vagrant /home/vagrant/.ssh
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> werewolve: ok, run lspci ,maybe that will help identify the chip.
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: hold SHIFT at boot.
[21:51] <gogy> I have same as this problem  but with TP-link TLWN422G    http://askubuntu.com/questions/148459/12-04-bcm4312-and-aireplay-ng-airodump-ng
[21:51] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: Error unable to write to directory
[21:52] <gogy> I have same as this problem  but with TP-link TLWN422G    http://askubuntu.com/questions/148459/12-04-bcm4312-and-aireplay-ng-airodump-ng   HELP ???
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: run: mount -o remont,rw /; nvidia-xconfig; reboot
[21:53] <Beldar> gogy, wifi cracking tools are not supported here.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> hikmat: why 644 on the SsH key file? Why would youbwan other users to have any access to your SSH key files?
[21:54] <quants> Beldar mmf sorry guys its the end of a 17 hour day for me :/ ill get there in the end.
[21:54] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: Same blinking line
[21:55] <mmf> quants, try this link http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-linux-with-ease-using-unetbootin/
[21:55] <mmf> hopefully it explains things enough to get you moving! :P
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: then i would uninstall the nvidia named packages and delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: you may need the remount command again
[21:56] <guntbert> hikmat: thats difficult to read in the channel - better use a pastebin
[21:56] <mmf> quants, Ignore my last link and check this one instead: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/using-unetbootin-to-create-a-linux-usb-from-linux/
  DO you mean i shouldn't have  installed  aircrack suite under ubuntu  ??
[21:57] <mmf> quants, go to method 2, as you already downloaded the iso.
[21:57] <Beldar> gogy, You can do what you want, however the support of getting it to work/crack is not here is all.
[21:58] <Beldar> gogy, The install part is supported if needed, but the use is not is all.
[21:59] <gogy>  <Beldar>  it's not working means it's not been installed correctly !!
[22:01] <Beldar> gogy, Just a fine line of support is all. We don't know how you will use it, like to check your own stuff, or crack a neighbor or someone in the general public, so we have limitations.
[22:01] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: How do I remove the Nvidia packages
 I am doing penetration testing at  my home in my AP ,
[22:04] <olskolirc> are you on Kali gogy?
[22:04] <Beldar> gogy, I have never used it so can't help there, my responses have been to point out the limitations the channel has is all.
[22:04] <gogy>  <olskolirc> no
[22:04] <Beldar> !tab | gogy
[22:05] <OerHeks> gogy, you need to do some reading, not all wireless adapters/drivers support those testingtools
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep nvidia | awk {'print $2'}`
[22:06] <LeeMerriman|2> ActionParsnip: Well, I deleted nvidia-* and deleted X11.conf and I'm back with a GUI now, so there's that..
[22:07] <quants> Beldar: this sucks!
[22:08] <quants> Beldar: Im too tired to focus, thanks for your help but ill have to get this sorted another time :)
[22:09] <Beldar> quants, Can be frustrating, if you have any friends dual booting I would work with them.
[22:10] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: Do I try installing them again or?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: that will take you back where you were a minute ago.....
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[22:11] <Beldar> quants, Just getting the iso on the usb and booted is the easiest part, you may have to do some more work that is much harder. For example I would bet the HD has 4 primary partitions, so you will have to move things around to get a ubuntu installed.
[22:11] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: does the system have a make and model?
[22:12] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: If you mean mine, it's a custom-built gaming PC.
[22:13] <hikmat> guntbert: thanks
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: i see. Not sure. You'll probably need the propriatary video driver to make it run better.
[22:15] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: I downloaded from the nvidia website, but it's a .run file and I have no idea what to do with that so..
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: if you feel brave, you could try the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh more stable)
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: if you drop to root recovery mode you can run that file from nvidia, it is a binary. You'll need to mark it executable
[22:17] <Grzy7316> I am trying to get ubuntu working on this laptop
[22:17] <Grzy7316> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ideapad-s415-touch-14-touch-screen-laptop-4gb-memory-500gb-hard-drive/3002005.p;jsessionid=D2BFB628E6117AEEF2BACCA4664CBE0E.bbolsp-app02-109?id=1219085626825&skuId=3002005&st=lenovo%20s415%20touch&cp=1&lp=1
[22:17] <Grzy7316> I tried both ubuntu and kubuntu images, neither one would boot
[22:18] <rannonga> Grzy7316: SECURE BOOT
[22:18] <Grzy7316> alrewady diabled it
[22:18] <wonderworld> LeeMerriman: cd /path/to/nvidia-run-file; chmod +x ./*.run; ./*.run
[22:18] <Grzy7316> also, when I error checed my image, it said errors found in one file. I redownloaded the image and made a new unetbootin error, still getting the same thing
[22:20] <Ben64> LeeMerriman: so why are you not using the driver in the repositories?
[22:20] <MastermindL> TJ-, I have an idea to save my drive: what if I install ubuntu on it and see what happens? it seems it is letting me do it
[22:20] <LeeMerriman> Ben64: Is there a driver i nthe repo somewhere that isn't going to explode X again?
[22:21] <Ben64> LeeMerriman: define "explode"
[22:22] <LeeMerriman> Ben64: ActionParsnip had me install nvidia-latest or something similar and all I had after that was a blinking _ until I deleted X11.conf and uninstalled nvidia-*
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Grzy7316: try the boot option: radeon.blacklist=1
[22:23] <Grzy7316> ok. will do
[22:23] <Grzy7316> how do I set boot options?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Grzy7316: changing between Ubuntu and Kubuntu will not make it boot diffetent. Under the hood they a 100% the same, only the default desktop is different. That bit never loads so is not a fix
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Grzy7316
[22:25] <Grzy7316> I just know I had issues with some drivers in the past on kubuntu that worked on ubuntu.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: could try the bleeding edge PPA, may help. Could try the file you have downloaded
[22:26] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Just to be thorough, have you seen the uefi wiki as well?
[22:26] <LeeMerriman> ActionParsnip: I haven't used Ubuntu in a very long time, could you possibly explain more (How to try it, etc)
[22:26] <luilakde1e> Hello. I'm using gnome classic, nvidia proprietary drivers and I'm having immense issues with tearing. Currently trying to watch a lower quality video, but the tearing is just unbearable. Any ideas as how to solve this?
[22:27] <Grzy7316> I have looked at it before
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: its a 3rd party package source. A websearch will tell you this. Not used the internet to research new terms in a ling time either?
[22:28] <LeeMerriman> Oh good, glad to see the amount of "helpers" who turn to assholes so suddenly hasn't changed a bit. Yay.
[22:28] <IdleOne> LeeMerriman: Please keep the language clean
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-331
[22:29] <julianmia> I am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop alongside Windows XP Home edition. I installed the CD boot helper because the laptop wouldn't boot from my flash drive and installed ubuntu on /dev/sda6 with swap space on /dev/sda5. Anyways, I installed Ubuntu and it isn't showing up in the boot menu. Is the linux partition style not recognized by Windows? What can I do to get Ubuntu working?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> LeeMerriman: you are asking questions which you can find out online rather than tie up helpers when its something you can so easily find out yourself.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> julianmia: XP has about 90 days support left. Why not take this opportunity to get rid
[22:31] <julianmia> ActionPartnership: I'm donating the computer
[22:31] <LeeMerriman> And now I remember why I switched away from Ubuntu. Dicks everywhereeeeeee
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> julianmia: you can use a burning software to make a liveCD of the ISO you downloaded?
[22:32] <julianmia> ActionParsnip: I used UNetBootin to install the live cd iso image on my flash drive.
[22:33] <grisza> whats the best book for starting study java ?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> grisza: try in #java
[22:34] <grisza> ActionParsnip, can You expalin ?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> julianmia: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> grisza: this is Ubuntu support.
[22:34] <julianmia> ActionParsnip: What is that?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> grisza: so asking about Java books is not Ubuntu support, its Java. So the Java channel will be able to advise
[22:35] <grisza> ok sorry
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | julianmia
[22:35] <grisza> join #java
[22:35] <CygnusX1> I have a question about an error on 12.04 lts
[22:36] <CygnusX1> Om boot, I get the  *ERROR* mismatch in gmch_pfit.lvds_border_bits (expected 32768, found 0)
[22:36] <julianmia> CyngusXL:me too
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> CygnusX1: are there any bugs reported?
[22:37] <basketball> hey my pc only has 1 gb of ram if i add more swap space does that increase ram
[22:37] <daftykins> no
[22:37] <CygnusX1> yes, I have seen it a lot but no fix
[22:37] <daftykins> basketball: it increases the potential for you to pull your hair out at an incredibly slow PC
[22:38] <Beldar> basketball, No it increases swap
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> CygnusX1: i suggest you subscribe to one and add a "this affects me too" comment
[22:38] <Beldar> basketball, You have to add more memory to have more memory.
[22:38] <mybuntu> win 1
[22:39] <basketball> Beldar,  how do i add virtual ram like in windows
[22:39] <CygnusX1> ok
[22:39] <greeter> i never really understood how swap space worked... truthfully i followed an article to set my swap size :-S
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> basketball: you will want at least 2Gb swap. With 1Gb RAM I would swap from Gnome to LXDE if you are using Gnome
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> greeter: do you know about page files in Windows?
[22:40] <TJ-> CygnusX1: julianmia It is a known issue and those Intel driver bugs are still being worked out as we speak; they affect Linux 3.13 as well
[22:40] <Beldar> basketball, never heard of it, and it can't be even close to what ram is in it's speed. Find the max the computer allows and buy it.
[22:40] <julianmia> yeah
[22:40] <basketball> ActionParsnip,  i want to be able to run another instance of ubuntu in vm
[22:40] <CygnusX1> Thank you TJ
[22:40] <greeter> afraid not ActionParsnip, i haven't used windows since 2003, forgotten most of what i knew
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> basketball: withn1Gb RAM you will struggle
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Greeter: RAM fills with data and applications. The swap is then used. Data is sapped from the RAM to the swap space on the disk and the data to be worked on is moved to RAM.
[22:41] <nikolam> I have trouble deleting one BTRFS subvolume (I am now on 13.10, but it is leftover form 12.04->12.10 upgrade), it is called "@apt-snapshot-release-upgrade-quantal-2012-11-20_09:07:40" and I can not delete it
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> greeter: when the stuff in swap is needed, some of the data in RAM is swapped to the swap space and the data is moved from swap to the RAM
[22:42] <Beldar> nikolam, You on a live cd/usb doing it?
[22:42] <greeter> ok, hence the name swap
[22:42] <ecdhe> has anyone here written a ./configure file before?
[22:42] <nikolam> Beldar, no, I am booted from that BTRFS
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> greeter: why do you think your drive thrashes when you run a lot of applications?
[22:42] <basketball> ActionParsnip,  where is ram cheap
[22:42] <TJ-> CygnusX1: julianmia For the background see https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/1/7/452
[22:42] <Beldar> nikolam, You have to have in dismounted to delete.
[22:43] <ecdhe> As in, `./configure && make' ?
[22:43] <Beldar> it*
[22:43] <greeter> i've never given it much thought to be honest. my computer is so old that i can't run a lot of applications anyway
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> basketball: everywhere. You can get another 1Gb for the price of 2 beers.
[22:43] <Grzy7316> using radeon.blacklist=1 still did not do the trick. I am still getting a black screen no backlight
[22:43] <nikolam> Beldar, you think I could delete it if I boot from live media?  Since i have active @ as boot subvolume
[22:43] <basketball> ActionParsnip,  how much is ram
[22:43] <nikolam> ok then Beldar
[22:43] <Beldar> nikolam, Can't be deleted if mounted at the least, use a live cd
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> basketball: about 10 - 15 pounds for a gig or two
[22:44] <basketball> us
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Grzy7316: you could try: nomodeset
[22:44] <nikolam> Ok, I will use live CD, but I don't understand how it is mounted, when I use @ mounted at /
[22:44] <Grzy7316> will  try that next
[22:44] <basketball> ActionParsnip,  what is swap
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> basketball: wat do you mean 'us'
[22:45] <julianmia> ActionParsnip:lots of errors like no such file or directory or can't open file.
[22:45] <Beldar> nikolam, If I understand you, you are on the partition you want to delete am I correct?
[22:45] <hewhomust> united states
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> basketball: virtual memory on the drive used when physical ram fills up
[22:45] <basketball> so can i use that to run vm
[22:45] <nikolam> Beldar, System is booted from @ subvolume, like it supposed to. And ther is one other subvolume, leftover snapshot from previous upgrades
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> basketball: yes but your drive is dog slow compared to ram. It will thrash like mad and both host and guest OS will run badly
[22:46] <greeter> basketball: it seems to me if running a vm, you should never use more than half of your physical ram if it can be avoided. that offers best performance
[22:46] <nikolam> it is not partition what is a matter. Btrfs have unlimited number of subvolumes, separate mountable file systems and one happens to be root, thet is @
[22:46] <Beldar> nikolam, I have never used that file system, hardly anyone here has as well so all I can say is a mounted partition wont delete.
[22:47] <basketball> greeter, ubuntu takes 500mb so 500 + 500 = 1 gb
[22:47] <MastermindL> guys, do you have any ideas about how to access a HDD that shows partition table as unrecognized and I can create partition table on gparted because it says unrecognised disk label ?
[22:47] <basketball> greeter,  i dont have that]
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> basketball: cpuld use Lubuntu :-)
[22:47] <MastermindL> can't*
[22:47] <nikolam> Beldar, ok thank anyway, but since it could be able to use it by default during install in 14.04, you should get used to it.
[22:47] <greeter> i use lubuntu because i thought regular ubuntu required at least 1 gig of ram. i only have half that
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> basketball: to get any sort of performance you'll need more RAM
[22:49] <Beldar> nikolam, lol, what a bogus statement good luck.
[22:50] <Beldar> btrfs will not be a default in ubuntu for a very long time
[22:51] <Grzy7316> When I put nomodeset into the parameters on booting, it goes through the splah screen and then leaves me at a terminal. Its progress, but when I try tostart x server, I get Fatal server error, no screens found
[22:52] <nikolam> Beldar, well it could be in SUSE enterprise, Oracle Linux and I think RedHat. and I got some confirmation before, it could be used by default in 14.04, so..  :P
[22:53] <nikolam> I have it since 12.04 but upgraded to 12.10 at a time for soem features (live migration from raid0 to raid1 :P
[22:55] <Beldar> Grzy7316, I notice you are not using the nicks of who you answer, you get lost this way, you can tab complete nicks.
[22:55] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Have you summed the iso's you have downloaded?
[22:56] <Grzy7316> going to do that now
[22:56] <Beldar> !who | Grzy7316 just a reminder
[22:57] <basketball> what is the command to install virtual machine
[22:57] <basketball> !virtualbox
[22:57] <Grzy7316> Beldar sorry about that
[22:58] <Beldar> Grzy7316, No biggie, just want you to get installed. ;)
[22:59] <Grzy7316> Beldar, I just checked the MD5 sums, and they are the same
[23:00] <Beldar> Grzy7316, So is this still a no boot?
[23:00] <wafflejock__> basketball: I have walk through doing some web development tool setup inside of VirtualBox here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA might be helpful, basically you are just installing VirtualBox then making a new disk image file and installing Ubuntu using an ISO
[23:01] <Grzy7316> I am booted, I just have no working x server
[23:02] <Beldar> Grzy7316, booted to a cli right?
[23:02] <Grzy7316> Beldar I am booted, jusst no x server
[23:02] <Grzy7316> yes
[23:02] <Grzy7316> and when I try to start x, it gives me an error and tells me to check the log, but when I try to open tyhe log I get permission denied
[23:03] <al_exquemelin> part
[23:03] <julianmia> I am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop alongside Windows XP Home edition. I installed the CD boot helper because the laptop wouldn't boot from my flash drive and installed ubuntu on /dev/sda6 with swap space on /dev/sda5. Anyways, I installed Ubuntu and it isn't showing up in the boot menu. Is the linux partition style not recognized by Windows? What can I do to get Ubuntu working?
[23:03] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Not sure where to go from there. If it were me I would be looking on the web with that computer model and the release, looking for others with the same problem, askubuntu is a good search for this stuff.
[23:04] <Grzy7316> Beldar I havebeen looking for this model, have yet to find much of anything
[23:04] <Beldar> Grzy7316, This a usb? If so how are you loading it?
[23:04] <Grzy7316> I am loading it on with unetbootin from on my windows machine
[23:04] <basketball> nothing else is open Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:05] <Grzy7316> beldar sorry I keep forgetting to put names in when replying
[23:05] <Beldar> Grzy7316, I would try another usb loader to just knock out variables, pendrivelinux has several.
[23:06] <Beldar> Grzy7316, takes a bit to get used to the nicks, you are doing fine. ;)
[23:06] <Grzy7316> Beldar ok. I will give that a go. I just set up a desktop server for use at home, and have been setting up ubuntu boxes since hoary. This is sadly the first time ive ever run into a problem where I had to try to ask for help
[23:07] <Grzy7316> I may look into trying to make a usb installer on my kubuntu box
[23:08] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Hmm, that is strange, I suspect it is a uefi thing maybe, here is a good thread on multiple options and vendors. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 Just a guess though since it is a no X scenario
[23:09] <Beldar> Grzy7316, Is the startup disc creator on kubuntu?
[23:10] <julianmia> I am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on my laptop alongside Windows XP Home edition. I installed the CD boot helper because the laptop wouldn't boot from my flash drive and installed ubuntu on /dev/sda6 with swap space on /dev/sda5. Anyways, I installed Ubuntu and it isn't showing up in the boot menu. Is the linux partition style not recognized by Windows? What can I do to get Ubuntu working?
[23:10] <Grzy7316> Beldar I would have to step over to my server to check. give me a moment
[23:10] <Beldar> Grzy7316, It is a gui is all.
[23:11] <Beldar> julianmia, You can still boot the live ubuntu?
[23:11] <unstable> On ubuntu I can tile windows by doing control + alt + numpad, that works great. How can i do the same thing on my laptop when I have no numpad?
[23:12] <julianmia> Beldar: Yes, only when the flash drive is connected to the laptop
[23:12] <nikolam> Beldar, trick with undeletable Btrfs subvolume, was to mount it again at separate location (/mnt) with -osubvolid=0 option (sudo mount -osubvolid=0 /dev/sdb6 /mnt) and then one can delete affecting subvolume from there (ls /mnt, sudo btrfs subvolume delete /mnt/@apt-snapshot-release-upgrade-quantal-2012-11-20_09:07:40) :))
[23:12] <Beldar> julianmia, Use this app to see if it fixes the boot, save the bootinfo summary for additional help if needed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:13] <fhf> Hi. My friend is having trouble with PlayOnLinux. It keeps saying  "unable to find 32 bit opengl libraries" while libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx are installed. Anyone know sollutino?
[23:13] <jbm> unstable my laptop has a number pad embedded in the regular alphanumeric keys. i hit the FN key to active it
[23:14] <unstable> jbm: right, but this ubuntu hotkey specifically uses the numpad keys
[23:15] <SailorR> how do I find out where irssi was installed on my system?
[23:15] <SailorR> from the terminal
[23:15] <unstable> not the number keys above qwerty, which I also have
[23:15] <SailorR> im looking for where the scripts would be placed
[23:15] <unstable> jbm: nevermind, I found it. control + super + lrud
[23:16] <wafflejock__> SailorR: you can use dpkg -L to see the contents of a particular package you installed, not famiilar with irssi though
[23:17] <SailorR> thx
[23:17] <unstable> hmm, it doesn't let me resize into a corner position though.
[23:17] <Grzy7316> Beldar I do have the startup disk creator, I will attempt that if an attempt with uui doesnt work
[23:18] <wafflejock__> unstable: should be ctrl+alt+numpad I believe, using KDE/Kubuntu now so I had to do some things to get it working here too (numpad bug)
[23:20] <unstable> wafflejock__: I'm on a laptop without a numpad
[23:21] <wafflejock__> unstable: ah gotcha believe you may need to get ccsm the compiz config settings manager to more easily change the keybindings if you want to set something up for snap to corners
[23:22] <serrus_> anyone use gnome classic as their DE?
[23:28] <spectre> hello
[23:32] <Beldar> !anyone | serrus_
[23:39] <Beldar> !away > a1|away
[23:49] <User2> Hi guys, will ubuntu 14.04 support standard the ability to tag files in the file-browser
[23:53] <daftykins> !trusty | User2
[23:53] <kikjezrous> i haven't heard of it; but i'd like it.
[23:54] <kikjezrous> you should look into nautilus's planned release notes, or whatever 14.04 is transitioning to


[21:58] <valorie> today's interview with Monica and Lyz from Xubuntu went well (at Grace Hopper conf)


[16:28] <knome> chrisccoulson, hey
[19:56] <cousteau> my firefox (10.0.2 from a PPA; under Ubuntu 10.10 64b) crashes when I hit Ctrl-Shift-K and type something.  Can anybody reproduce?
[19:56] <cousteau> just tried it with a .tar.bz2 downloaded from Firefox; dosn't happen there


[01:20] <LaserJock> everybody must be busily installing the Dapper beta
[01:23] <Kyral> No I was sitting in a computer lab waiting for a script to run that ran an experiment for me
[01:25] <crimsun> I'm valgrinding
[01:25] <crimsun> I do not recommend interstate driving on no sleep, btw.
[01:26] <Se7h> rofl crimsun
[01:27] <Se7h> hi all btw
[01:28] <LaserJock> I was trying to figure out how to distil paint thinner ;-)
[01:30] <LaserJock> and waiting until I can get home and put my box back together, so I can install Beta
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone confirm a package issue with network-manager-gnome on ubuntu beta?
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> The error dialog says "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> and console returned a ton of identical lines saying
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> (nm-applet:5689): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[02:52] <crimsun> might actually be better addressed in the forum/bug tracker
[02:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Heh, I'm hesitant to add another bug to the already 18 present
[02:57] <FunnyLookinHat> !bug
[02:58] <Se7h> congrats on the new update icon :> its cute
[03:03] <FunnyLookinHat> Ok, bug reported for network-manager-gnome not starting up.
[03:04] <crimsun> 'morning, Hobbsee
[03:06] <ajmitch> hi Hobbsee
[03:06] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:06] <crimsun> &ajmitch
[03:07] <ajmitch> hello crimsun
[03:07] <ajmitch> how are you?
[03:07] <crimsun> not bad, yourself?
[03:08] <ajmitch> alright :)
[03:09] <crimsun> great :)
[03:10] <ajmitch> and the walls resonating nicely
[03:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:11] <Hobbsee> always fun
[03:11] <ajmitch> I wish they'd stop digging up the road
[03:11] <ajmitch> for awhile this morning we had no water pressure either
[03:20] <ajmitch> so what are people up to today? :)
[03:21] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: banning bots :P
[03:21] <ajmitch> yay
[03:21] <ajmitch> how exciting
[03:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:24] <FunnyLookinHat> reporting network-manager bugs  ^_^;;
[03:59] <LaserJock> hi ajmitch and Hobbsee
[03:59] <Hobbsee> hey LaserJock
[04:00] <ajmitch> hello LaserJock
[04:00] <ajmitch> how's it going?
[04:00] <LaserJock> oh alright
[04:00] <LaserJock> I spent the day trying to figure out how to distill paint thinner
[04:01] <crimsun> successful?
[04:01] <LaserJock> I think so
[04:01] <crimsun> well, that beats the pants off my valgrinding :)
[04:01] <LaserJock> heh, I don't know
[04:02] <LaserJock> I still have to pass it by my boss, we are supposed to avoid stills if we can
[04:02] <ajmitch> heh
[04:02] <LaserJock> too many fires
[04:02] <ajmitch> in case you get caught distilling other liquids? :)
[04:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:03] <LaserJock> no,  although we have to have paperwork if we by absolute ethanol
[04:03] <LaserJock> s/by/buy/
[04:04] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[04:06] <LaserJock> I was able to by good quality methanol and acetone, but I have to do my own water and toluene
[04:09] <LaserJock> darn it, why can't I spell buy today
[04:12] <crimsun> better than misplacing that 'u' into 'my'
[04:12] <crimsun> by and muy
[04:12] <crimsun> I've had a few days like that
[04:17] <zul> hey
[04:17] <ajmitch> hi zul
[04:17] <zul> hey ajmitch
[04:19] <LaserJock> hi zul and hub
[04:24] <bddebian> Heya gang
[04:24] <crimsun> uh oh, the deity's here
[04:25] <bddebian> :'-(
[04:25] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[04:26] <bddebian> I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO WORSHIP ME!!
[04:26] <bddebian> Hi LaserJock
[04:29] <crimsun> just because he's a deity doesn't at all imply any sort of worship
[04:31] <bddebian> crimsun: Why do you taunt me man :-(
[04:31] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian
[04:31] <crimsun> taunt? pssht.
[04:31] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[04:31] <ajmitch> hello bddebian
[04:31] <crimsun> it's your "fault" you built up all that karma ;)
[04:32] <bddebian> Hiya ajmitch
[04:32] <ajmitch> bddebian: how's it going?
[04:32] <bddebian> How much do I have now?
[04:32] <ajmitch> probably about 10x as much as the rest of us put together
[04:32] <bddebian> ajmitch: Lousy, I ache all over. :-)  You?
[04:32] <ajmitch> I'm alright :)
[04:32] <ajmitch> a bit hungry
[04:32] <ajmitch> thanks
[04:35] <bddebian> Are we OK for uploads right now?
[04:35] <Kyral> Hey
[04:35] <ajmitch> bddebian: yep, beta is out
[04:38] <bddebian> Hyea Kyral
[04:38] <bddebian> ajmitch: Cool thanks.  Does that mean syncs are gonna start too?
[04:38] <ajmitch> bddebian: yeah
[04:40] <zul> does this also mean that if there is a bug with new version we can actually do something with it?
[04:41] <ajmitch> zul: you mean UVF exceptions?
[04:41] <zul> yeah..
[04:42] <zul> like 4394
[04:44] <ajmitch> zul: you mean a merge bug that probably should have been closed?
[04:44] <zul> yeah
[04:44] <ajmitch> it's not an approved UVF exception
[04:45] <zul> ok...just making sure...night night
[05:17] <LaserJock> darn it, is it common for the pins for the on-off switch on the front of a case to not fit on the MB
[05:18] <Kyral> no....
[05:18] <Lathiat> yeh
[05:18] <Lathiat> i've only ever had problems with the power led
[05:19] <Lathiat> which can be 3 or 2 pin
[05:20] <LaserJock> well, on my case they are all hooked together
[05:21] <LaserJock> in one row
[05:21] <LaserJock> but on the MB they are in two rows
[05:27] <LaserJock> dang it, I don't want to ditch this case
[05:57] <LaserJock> grrr
[05:59] <bddebian> LaserJock: ?
[06:03] <LaserJock> bddebian: I was going to switch MBs but the pins on my case (LED and power switch) don't match my MB
[06:05] <LaserJock> I really like this case though
[06:05] <bddebian> So fix it :)
[06:06] <LaserJock> bddebian: can't I give it to you to fix ;-)
[06:06] <bddebian> Sure3
[06:06] <bddebian> -3
[06:12] <LaserJock> hmm, anybody know how to get the wires out of the black pins
[06:13] <bddebian> There is usually a small flat clip that you have to pull out a little with like a needle or a small knife blade, then yank the wire straight out
[06:14] <LaserJock> bddebian: k, thanks
[06:14] <bddebian> NP
[06:14] <bddebian> Now, bow to me.. ;-P
[06:15] <bddebian> Bah :-)
[06:31] <bddebian> Gnight folks, good luck LaserJock :-)
[09:20] <dholbach> HAPPY HUG DAY
[09:21] <chillywilly> :-o
[09:33] <Yagisan> G'day all
[09:41] <freeflying> dholbach: ping
[09:41] <dholbach> hey freeflying
[09:42] <freeflying> dholbach: we have comment on bug 36168
[09:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36168 in cmake "need new release for build kde4 package " [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/36168
[09:42] <freeflying> dholbach: will you have a look , and cmake 2.4.0 is out
[09:43] <dholbach> freeflying: i just started reading the 1500 mails I got since yesterday
[09:43] <freeflying> dholbach: unfotuenately , author hasn't provide the Changelog
[09:44] <dholbach> freeflying: i'm more concerend about the packages build-depending on it
[09:45] <freeflying> dholbach: all kde4 stuff
[09:45] <dholbach> which packages in Ubuntu?
[09:45] <dholbach> I know that we took a look at one tiny change in imake - and all the */X11R6/* directories changed
[09:46] <freeflying> dholbach: no kde4 package in ubuntu now
[09:46] <dholbach> the change would have been nice to have, but we decided two months ago, that it's too risky
[09:46] <dholbach> freeflying: so you're saying no package build-depends on it?
[09:46] <freeflying> dholbach: just now
[09:47] <freeflying> dholbach: if we prepare on kde4 , then we need it
[09:47] <dholbach> i just don't see why we need it in dapper now
[09:47] <dholbach> it's a 100000 line changes
[09:49] <freeflying> we just wanna have it , so anyone wanna build kde4 can use it smoothly
[09:49] <dholbach> can you follow up with that information on the bug?
[09:49] <dholbach> I'd like to talk to siretart and slomo about it
[09:50] <dholbach> and Riddell maybe too
[09:50] <siretart> morning
[09:50] <freeflying> dholbach: thx
[09:51] <dholbach> hey siretart - happy hug day
[09:51] <siretart> dholbach: and I'm currently at work. But I will join you all this afternoon!
[09:52] <siretart> freeflying: please compile a list of reverse build dependencies of cmake, and submit that to the malone bug. I asked you for that yesterday
[09:52] <dholbach> siretart: take your time
[09:52] <siretart> freeflying: you can use grep-dctrl for that
[09:53] <freeflying> siretart: got it
[09:58] <Tm_T> ha
[09:59] <Tm_T> dholbach: yeah, cmake is not basic users need, but (wannabe)devels like me ;)
[10:00] <Tm_T> dholbach: so it would keep powerusers in Ubuntu
[10:00] <dholbach> if you build stuff for edgy with it, it makes sense to have it in edgy
[10:00] <Tm_T> dholbach: that is the plan
[10:00] <dholbach> i'm just slightly concerned to get a 100000 line change in
[10:00] <dholbach> Tm_T: freeflying wants to have it in now
[10:00] <Tm_T> dholbach: I would have it too
[10:00] <dholbach> 5 weeks before release
[10:01] <freeflying> dholbach: not onle me , Riddell also wanna
[10:01] <Tm_T> dholbach: true, bad time, but we need it for summer
[10:01] <Tm_T> dholbach: and over summer
[10:01] <dholbach> it'll be in edgy for sure
[10:01] <Tm_T> because then will happen a lot work around KDE4 I hope
[10:02] <Tm_T> anyway, I can always compile cmake myself
[10:03] <Tm_T> ...actually I will do it now, will help my next weeks tasks a lot ->
[10:03] <dholbach> I'm not being a killjoy for the sake of it - I want to have more facts at hand to take this decision
[10:04] <Tm_T> dholbach: true, and I have no idea what facts you need =)
[10:04] <Tm_T> dholbach: maybe we wait for edgy :)
[10:04] <dholbach> anything that makes me feel good and forget that it's 100 000 lines of changes in a key part of infrastructure will do :)
[10:04] <Tm_T> haha
[10:04] <siretart> it isn't that hard to setup local repos after all. We are really close to release now and have to make sure that we don't break anything
[10:05] <Tm_T> siretart: true
[10:05] <Tm_T> so, I'd say edgy if nothing new and revolutionary happens
[10:06] <siretart> I also setup a local repo for xen stuff in dapper
[10:07] <siretart> but I'm not going to upload it to dapper. even given that it works fine for me [tm]
[10:07] <Tm_T> haha
[10:08] <siretart> ?
[10:12] <Tm_T> siretart: exactly, because "works fine for me" doesn't quarantee anything :)
[10:12] <siretart> right
[10:42] <phanatic> mornin
[10:50] <phanatic> hi raphink
[10:51] <raphink> hi phanatic
[12:06] <zakame> hi all
[12:06] <phanatic> hey zakame
[12:07] <zakame> hi phanatic
[01:55] <CraiZE> hey
[01:56] <CraiZE> anyone awake?
[01:57] <CraiZE> hi _jason
[01:57] <_jason> CraiZE: hey :)
[01:57] <CraiZE> hey hey ;)
[01:57] <CraiZE> uhm say
[01:57] <CraiZE> i wrote an application the other day for ubuntu
[01:57] <CraiZE> how do you get someone to review it
[01:58] <CraiZE> to go into the repo ?
[01:59] <_jason> I'm trying to learn how to properly package something for motu, I came across gTVlistings at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates which doesn't seem to have any comments.  Can I just give it a try and put it up on REVU?
[01:59] <_jason> CraiZE: note sure, I'm quite new to motu as well as you can see
[01:59] <CraiZE> yeah i noticed
[01:59] <Gloubiboulga> CraiZE, _jason, if you think that the packages are ready to be reviewed, upload them on REVU
[02:00] <CraiZE> i never made a package
[02:00] <CraiZE> its python scripts :)
[02:00] <Gloubiboulga> CraiZE, python scripts can be packaged as well ;)
[02:00] <_jason> I haven't actually started making the package, but I am about to.  Just wondering if I should do anything beforehand (other than read the docs and learn the process)?
[02:00] <CraiZE> ah okay ;)
[02:02] <phanatic> _jason: i think that will be enough
[02:02] <Gloubiboulga> _jason, build your package if you've read the doc :)
[02:02] <Gloubiboulga> hi phanatic
[02:02] <phanatic> hey Gloubiboulga :)
[02:02] <_jason> phanatic, Gloubiboulga: cool, thanks
[02:49] <zul> heylo
[03:30] <dholbach> you know how to talk to people :-p
[03:31] <tseng> there you go.
[03:31] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:32] <Hobbsee> :D
[03:32] <Hobbsee> hugged twice - yay!
[03:32] <tseng> dholbach: mdz is better at cluing people, i can be too mean sometimes
[03:32] <zul> tseng: you dont say ;)
[03:33] <tseng> not that some people dont deseve it :)
[03:35] <tseng> good morning
[03:35] <chillywilly> ello mates
[03:35] <Mithrandir> actually almost end of day here, but yeah.
[03:36] <Mithrandir> how's .au today?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> it got taken over by sheep.
[03:36] <Mithrandir> I thought they were supposed to be on the other (relativetly) nearby island?
[03:37] <Hobbsee> the nearby island built catapults, and flung them over here
[03:38] <chillywilly> ajmitchie rules
[03:40] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:43] <nomed> ogra: have you already an idea how what you'll use to code that "branding gui tool" ?
[03:44] <ogra> nomed, not beyond it being python and GTK ... and probably a split front/backend to make Riddell happy ;)
[03:44] <ogra> hmm, probably doesnt make sense ...
[03:44] <ogra> since it will use gdm and gconf ...
[03:45] <Riddell> what tool is this?
[03:45] <ogra> feel free  to add suggestions to my mail :)
[03:45] <ogra> Riddell, see my RFC mail to -devel
[03:45] <ogra> but we'd have to develop it together if it should be cross desktop
[03:45] <nomed> ogra: i was thinking on somthing similar ... i'll help as soon i get how i can do that :)
[03:46] <ogra> its only the draft of a spec yet ... nothing concrete ... feel free to flech it out more :)
[03:47] <Riddell> sounds a bit like KDE's theme tool
[03:47] <ogra> that grabs system settings and creates an artwork .deb ?
[03:49] <dholbach> ogra: some of the artwork stuff needs a proper buildsystem
[03:49] <dholbach> ogra: like installations of icons, translations etc - dunno if it's that easy
[03:49] <ogra> dholbach, to create a set of gconf keys ?
[03:50] <ogra> i only talk about branding ... i.e. themes that exist and can just be called
[03:52] <dholbach> ahhhh right
[03:52] <dholbach> you said something about "creates a package"
[03:52] <dholbach> that's why I wondered
[03:53] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:55] <Gloubiboulga> hello bddebian
[03:56] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian
[04:15] <sladen> oh, do you have Nathalie's details anyway?
[04:15] <sladen> bah.  my windows are the wrong numbers
[04:16] <bddebian> Heya Gloubiboulga, Hobbsee, sladen
[04:27] <zul> i guess its time to fix some universe bugs
[04:28] <bddebian> Yeah, I gotta get back to work.  I can't let you catch my karma.. ;-P
[04:28] <zul> oh i think i can...eventually
[04:40] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[04:43] <LaserJock> heh, I'm dist-upgrading and I have 119 packages to upgrade and will save 389K
[04:44] <bddebian> yeah
[04:44] <LaserJock> usually I use more disk space upgrading not less ;-)
[04:44] <LaserJock> bddebian: btw, thanks for that tip on getting those wires out
[04:45] <bddebian> It worked?
[04:45] <LaserJock> yep
[04:45] <bddebian> Sweet
[04:45] <LaserJock> I moved the power switch, HD led, and power led pins from my old case over
[04:46] <LaserJock> the HD doesn't seem to work but the power works fine
[04:46] <LaserJock> HD led that is
[04:48] <zul> bddebian: thats one closed im catching up ;)
[04:48] <bddebian> Doh
[04:48] <bddebian> bbias
[05:02] <CraiZE> anyone awake? :)
[05:03] <hub> awake
[05:03] <bddebian> Nope
[05:03] <CraiZE> well
[05:03] <bddebian> <-- Not enough coffee yet
[05:03] <CraiZE> i wrote a program i would like someone to package for me :)
[05:03] <LaserJock> bddebian: it is even earlier here ;-)
[05:03] <CraiZE> and i rather spend time developing, then learning how to package
[05:03] <CraiZE> so anyone intressted in doing that "dirty" job for me? :)
[05:04] <bddebian> LaserJock: I don't do mornings well :-)
[05:04] <LaserJock> bddebian: me neither but the wife had a 7:30 thing today
[05:04] <LaserJock> CraiZE: what kind of app is it?
[05:04] <CraiZE> its a mount tool
[05:05] <CraiZE> like daemon-tools in windows
[05:05] <CraiZE> tray icon to mount / unmount
[05:05] <CraiZE> or an UI
[05:05] <CraiZE> its written in pyGTK
[05:05] <CraiZE> i can send you the current version if you want ?
[05:05] <LaserJock> CraiZE: our current procedure is to put packages on a candidate list
[05:06] <CraiZE> aha
[05:06] <CraiZE> well its not a package
[05:06] <CraiZE> its a .tar.gz :P
[05:06] <CraiZE> i wanted some1 to package it
[05:06] <CraiZE> so i can put it on the candidate list
[05:06] <LaserJock> CraiZE: yeah, that is what I meant. Apps people want packaged. it is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[05:06] <CraiZE> all this bureaucracy for just releasing software to help people is truly annoying (to me atleast)
[05:06] <azeem> CraiZE: what does it do differently to the drivemount applet?
[05:06] <CraiZE> drivemount applet?
[05:07] <CraiZE> i dont know the drivemount applet
[05:07] <azeem> it's in gnome-applest
[05:07] <azeem> eh -applets
[05:07] <CraiZE> lemme look
[05:07] <LaserJock> CraiZE: there really isn't much of any bureaucracy in Ubuntu, somebody just has to do it
[05:07] <CraiZE> there is no drivemount applet
[05:08] <CraiZE> on my repos
[05:08] <CraiZE> you mean Disk Mounter?
[05:08] <CraiZE> well
[05:08] <CraiZE> http://craize.x-ware.org/?path=isomount/
[05:08] <CraiZE> you can try it out
[05:09] <CraiZE> its like daemon-tools, it has a tray icon, or a stand alone GUI
[05:09] <CraiZE> you can mount / unmount (it does mount -o loop) anything that your system supports
[05:09] <CraiZE> like .ISO / .NRG, or entire filesystems using mount
[05:10] <CraiZE> it gives you easy access to quickly mount or unmount different kinds of filesystems, in a user friendly way
[05:10] <azeem> CraiZE: how does it cope with stuff which is not in fstab?
[05:10] <azeem> Does it use gksudo? Or is it suid?
[05:10] <CraiZE> it uses gksudo, so it doesnt care about fstab
[05:11] <CraiZE> azeem, are you intressted in making a package out of it?
[05:12] <azeem> I probably wouldn't use it myself
[05:12] <azeem> and I got enough packages already :-/
[05:12] <azeem> (and I can't upload to Ubuntu anyway)
[05:13] <CraiZE> then allow me to wonder, why you asking all these questions?
[05:13] <CraiZE> you are asking*
[05:13] <azeem> because I was curious
[05:13] <CraiZE> ah okay ;)
[05:13] <CraiZE> hrm
[05:14] <LaserJock> CraiZE: but azeem can be very helpful :-)
[05:14] <CraiZE> oh i don't doubt that
[05:14] <bddebian> azeem: Well become an MOTU then ;-)
[05:14] <azeem> personally, I think it would be nicer if you could just browse into an .ISO if you double-click on an icon in nautilus
[05:14] <CraiZE> i just didn't want to go through the process of having to learn stuff
[05:14] <LaserJock> bddebian: he did become a member
[05:14] <CraiZE> azeem, its in beta stages
[05:15] <CraiZE> so yes, i am thinking of doing that also
[05:15] <bddebian> LaserJock: Really?
[05:15] <bddebian> azeem: You have joined The Dark Side? :-)
[05:15] <LaserJock> CraiZE: well, I think the point is that we would like to see if there is already an app that has the same functionality
[05:15] <CraiZE> well there is not
[05:16] <CraiZE> i searched for it, and never found it
[05:16] <CraiZE> but i would greatly appreciate it if you tried it the app out, and see if you see a similarity with another app ;)
[05:16] <LaserJock> well, in gnome the drive mount applet seems close
[05:16] <CraiZE> no
[05:16] <LaserJock> but that is only for gnome, and maybe xfce
[05:16] <CraiZE> i have ~1TB of network drives mount
[05:17] <CraiZE> and that clutters an entire bar
[05:17] <CraiZE> which is using /etc/fstab
[05:17] <CraiZE> so its really different
[05:17] <CraiZE> here you can browse to the iso you want to mount
[05:17] <CraiZE> or FS
[05:17] <CraiZE> and it mounts, within 2 clicks or 3 ;)
[05:17] <CraiZE> and unmount with 2 clicks ;)
[05:18] <CraiZE> i will have to look how to get support from nautilus
[05:18] <CraiZE> so nautilus tells my code the entire path / file
[05:18] <CraiZE> so i can mount it :)
[05:20] <LaserJock> CraiZE: ok, well I'd put it on that wiki page I gave you. Dapper is basically closed to new packages at this point but the next release will open up after 6.06 is released and it could be included then.
[05:20] <CraiZE> ok
[05:21] <CraiZE> well i will further enhance it
[05:21] <LaserJock> yeah, that would be cool
[05:21] <CraiZE> i will do the double click support ;)
[05:21] <LaserJock> sure, that would be nice
[05:22] <CraiZE> i know most of you dont care about such apps, but windows users do :P
[05:23] <LaserJock> heah, I would probably like it
[05:28] <jpatrick> sladen: ping
[05:36] <CraiZE> yay
[05:36] <CraiZE> i actually made it double clickable
[05:36] <CraiZE> ;D
[05:37] <LaserJock> cool
[05:42] <CraiZE> yup
[05:42] <CraiZE> think i will make a bash script, so its easier to make it work :)
[06:19] <LaserJock> bmonty!
[06:20] <bmonty> hey LaserJock
[06:21] <CraiZE> LaserJock, http://craize.x-ware.org/index.php?path=mountool/
[06:21] <CraiZE> its the new version
[06:21] <LaserJock> bmonty: how's it going?
[06:21] <CraiZE> with nautilus support, UI, and tray icon :)
[06:22] <bmonty> LaserJock: very busy, you?
[06:22] <LaserJock> yes, very
[06:23] <Gloubiboulga> >zhois nornqgon
[06:23] <Gloubiboulga> sorry
[06:23] <Gloubiboulga> playing with the xklavier lib, I have some surprises some times :)
[07:05] <LaserJock> Gloubiboulga: ping?
[07:07] <Gloubiboulga> LaserJock, pong
[07:07] <LaserJock> Gloubiboulga: bug #33806
[07:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 33806 in siptoolbox "siptoolbox: accepted work" [Normal,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/33806
[07:08] <Gloubiboulga> yep, I was waiting for a fix in dapper, but...
[07:09] <Gloubiboulga> in debian*
[07:09] <LaserJock> k
[07:09] <Gloubiboulga> LaserJock, I don't think I can fix it myself, but I can have a new look at it
[07:13] <webwolf_27> say how stable is dapper at the moment
[07:14] <jpatrick> fairly
[07:15] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: it really depends on your definition of stable
[07:16] <webwolf_27> not constantly crashing
[07:19] <dholbach> have a nice weekend everybody
[07:21] <webwolf_27> you too dholbach
[07:22] <bmonty> webwolf_27: dapper is very usable
[07:24] <webwolf_27> good, it's like this. I'm interested in developing on a linux OS, and ubuntu looks like a good candidat, but I don't want to piss my wife off by installing extreemly unstable softw3are
[07:24] <jpatrick> dholbach: bye
[07:25] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: I haven't had any problems with it in the last few months. there are a few bugs here are there, but overall it is definately stable for desktop use, IMO
[07:25] <webwolf_27> but it doesn't make much sense to develop on the stable version
[07:26] <bmonty> webwolf_27: tell the wife to get her own machine :)
[07:27] <LaserJock> bmonty: yikes
[07:28] <LaserJock> azeem: ping?
[07:28] <webwolf_27> bmonty,  or I'll install dapper to my notebook, and leave breezy on the main machine
[07:29] <imbrandon> vmware ;)
[07:29] <webwolf_27> bmonty,  then I don't need to worry about only developing on linux
[07:30] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: IMO, dapper is already more stable than breezy
[07:32] <webwolf_27> LaserJock, then it sounds like you all have been doing a good job, and I hope, at some point to be welcomed into the teem.
[07:35] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: sure, we always welcome contributions
[07:35] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: have you done any debian based packaging before?
[07:37] <webwolf_27> LaserJock, nope
[07:38] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: then when you install look in the Ubuntu documentation and you'll find a packaging guide or also at doc.ubuntu.com
[07:43] <webwolf_27> LaserJock, will do. I've done rpm's before and I just finished a C++ cert for linux in sep.
[07:46] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: cool
[08:22] <cyberix> slomo: GNUnet 0.7.0c is going to make it for Dapper?
[08:27] <slomo> cyberix: eh... probably... hm, i should go through all confirmed UVF exceptions next week and upload them or ask for syncs if needed...
[08:27] <slomo> cyberix: thanks for reminding :)
[08:29] <cyberix> ok
[08:29] <cyberix> no prob
[08:37] <webwolf_27> LaserJock, sorry I was bathing my son and helping my wife, and in a few min's, I'm putting the kids in bed. But what part of that was cool
[08:46] <seth> steal my nick, eh
[08:46] <imbrandon> can someone tell me how i can sign a package i build with equiv-build ?
[08:46] <imbrandon> and yes i have gen gunpg keys etc
[08:47] <imbrandon> just dunno how to sign the pkg
[08:48] <jpatrick> seth: heh
[08:48] <jpatrick> imbrandon: debuild -S -sa -k$YOURKEY
[08:48] <imbrandon> kk thx
[08:48] <seth> jpatrick, :)
[09:05] <raphink> siretart: you lied :p I added this last key but didn't have the time to send the mail cause the phone rang ;)
[09:05] <raphink> hehe
[09:26] <siretart> raphink: lol
[09:26] <siretart> :)
[09:26] <raphink> ;)
[09:28] <imbrandon> ok i have my .dsc and .build .changes and .tar.gz of the package made with debuild -S -sa -k<key> ....... do i dput them all to revu ? or just certain ones , this will be the first upload of this package not an update
[09:29] <imbrandon> dput revu * ??
[09:30] <imbrandon> unhighlights?
[09:30] <tseng> its my name, it highlights when you say it
[09:30] <tseng> which is all the time :)
[09:30] <imbrandon> ahhh ;) heh
[09:30] <LaserJock> imbrandon: dput revu *_source.changes, I think
[09:31] <imbrandon> even on a first upload?
[09:31] <bddebian> tseng!!
[09:31] <Spec> i think you always dput the changes file
[09:31] <tseng> bddebian: hi
[09:31] <imbrandon> but what about the others?
[09:31] <imbrandon> like the tar.gz etc
[09:31] <LaserJock> imbrandon: yeah, always dput the source.changes file, it grabs everything else
[09:31] <Spec> they'll get where they're going
[09:31] <imbrandon> ahh ok
[09:32] <imbrandon> w00t worked , thanks guys
[09:33] <imbrandon> Uploading via ftp fubuntu-desktop_0.4.1_source.changes: done.
[09:33] <jpatrick> imbrandon: i think the *-desktop packages are produced by seeds
[09:35] <imbrandon> this is a new one, no seed for it
[09:35] <imbrandon> as far as i know, like i said still kinda new to ubuntu
[09:35] <imbrandon> i'm from a SuSE world
[09:37] <LaserJock> hmm, is there a fubuntu project?
[09:37] <imbrandon> i'm trying to create it
[09:37] <imbrandon> not currently
[09:41] <imbrandon> i guess i'm going about this wrong :( looks to the motu guys once again for insight
[10:31] <azeem> LaserJock: pong
[10:40] <LaserJock> azeem: are you up for a new upload of gausssum at a time convenient to you?
[10:54] <LaserJock> azeem: I made 2 small fixes and closed a bug, is it alright if I just email you?
[10:58] <LaserJock> azeem: I gotta go to a meeting but debdiff and source from gausssum (1.0.3-2) is at http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/debian/
[12:02] <azeem> LaserJock: I've uploaded it