[12:27] (Bisclaveret/#ubuntu) i'm using ubuntu 4.10 warty currently. the other thing is that my backup for win2kpro i have, i found out i didn't do right, and forgot to make it bootable as well. nice way to figure that out when your sister's boyfriend starts playing with the circuitbreakers and shuts power to the computer when your defragging :p
[12:27] (pfp/#ubuntu) exactly, once you get past that dev= phase and the frustration from the fact that -scanbus doesn't work...
[12:27] (synd/#ubuntu) LinuxJones: i installed gdesklets-data too
[12:27] (Bisclaveret/#ubuntu) heh
[12:27] <cthulfuego> pfp: Well, dev=/dev/hdc it is, then.
[12:28] <pestilence> pfp: why doesn't -scanbus work?
[12:28] <ChrisCF> Anyone know a decent DVD recording tool that doesn't require me to find 5GB of free HD space before writing the disc?
[12:28] <pestilence> pfp: i thought that even for atapi cdroms you could do something like cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
[12:28] <pfp> wtf, since when has dev=/dev/hdc worked?
[12:29] <pfp> pestilence: i didn't bother to find out, after i found k3b :)P
[12:29] <pestilence> hehe
[12:29] <pestilence> k3b is nice.
[12:29] <ChrisCF> Anyone at all know of one?
[12:29] <pestilence> ChrisCF: growisofs
[12:29] <pfp> ChrisCF: btw, if you can afford the kde libs, k3b can burn on the fly
[12:29] <concept10> Are any true type fonts in the repos?
[12:30] <mcquaid> i thought latest baker could burn on the fly and supports bin/cue
[12:30] <ChrisCF> pfp: If by that you mean "it doesn't need 5GB of HD space per disc", then I can probably afford the space
[12:30] <pfp> ChrisCF: trust me ;)
[12:31] <cthulfuego> Well, k3b uses cdrecord.
[12:31] <ChrisCF> well, this is kind of important
[12:31] <pestilence> ChrisCF: are you trying to make a data dvd?
[12:31] <ChrisCF> yes
[12:32] <ChrisCF> I'm stuck on a 6.4GB HD
[12:32] <pestilence> ChrisCF: definitely check out growisofs.
[12:32] <Bisclaveret> um. that's odd
[12:32] <ChrisCF> so writing 5GB image file is not really an option
[12:32] <pfp> ChrisCF: of course you need a little more horsepower to skip the image creation phase, no matter what program you use
[12:32] <Bisclaveret> i can't eject my cdrom drive with the eject button on the case
[12:32] <mcquaid> i checked checked the latest cvs checkout of gnomebaker support on the fly and bin cue
[12:32] <mcquaid> which is what hoary uses
[12:32] <pestilence> ChrisCF: growisofs doesn't require any extra space.
[12:32] <mcquaid> er i just checked
[12:32] <pestilence> Bisclaveret: that's because it's mounted.
[12:33] <pestilence> Bisclaveret: right click on the icon on the desktop and click unmount or eject.
[12:33] <ChrisCF> pfp: Will a Duron 850 and a 4x DVD recorder cut it?
[12:33] <ChrisCF> (RAM+swap = 600MB)
[12:34] <pfp> ChrisCF: i think so
[12:34] <thechitowncubs> Is it possible to resize an NTFS partition?
[12:34] <ChrisCF> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO1
[12:34] <pestilence> thechitowncubs: yes.
[12:34] <ChrisCF> More fucking ringtone adverts
[12:34] <cthulfuego> ChrisCF: You can always burn at 2X.
[12:34] <Bisclaveret> hrm. works
[12:35] <Bisclaveret> actually, i typed eject in a terminal
[12:35] <ChrisCF> cthulfuego: That'll do - it's not like I've got anything better to do for an hour :)
[12:35] <pestilence> Bisclaveret: that works too
[12:35] <Madeye> 0 */1 * * * every hour ?
[12:35] <pfp> Madeye: yep
[12:35] <pestilence> why the /1
[12:36] <pestilence> * would work just fine.
[12:36] <pfp> good point
[12:36] <kangpeh> Hey guys ;)
[12:36] <Madeye> pestilence,  0 * * * * == 0 */1 * * * ?
[12:36] <thechitowncubs> Does the Installer have a NTFS resizer
[12:36] <kangpeh> I got 2 powerful questions that I hope to find the answers to.
[12:36] <pestilence> Madeye: yes.
[12:36] <kangpeh> 1) How can I have different backgrounds on my virtual desktop?
[12:37] <ChrisCF> Yuck.  All the text is so huge
[12:37] <kangpeh> 2) You know when choosing a background, there is an image preview.  How can I have that image preview in the FireFox upload/file chooser dialog box?
[12:37] <ChrisCF> Normally I have trouble with small text, but this is just *too* big
[12:37] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: 1) With a little script and xsetroot.
[12:37] <Bisclaveret> i'm assuming K3B won't work on ubuntu :/
[12:37] <Seveas> 1) Not
[12:37] <seth_k> kangpeh: or switch to KDE :D
[12:37] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, it will
[12:37] <ChrisCF> Bisclaveret: Why?
[12:37] <pfp> ChrisCF: kcontrol allows you to tweak kde apps' fonts etc
[12:37] <kangpeh> I can't use KDE... it's too slow :(
[12:37] <^thehatsrule^> Bisclaveret: it can
[12:37] <cthulfuego> Seveas: liar!
[12:37] <Seveas> 2) neither
[12:37] <kangpeh> My box is only AMD AthlonXP 2000; it can't handle KDE:(
[12:37] <Seveas> cthulfuego, enlighten me :0
[12:37] <seth_k> kangpeh: O_O
[12:37] <Seveas> :)
[12:37] <pestilence> bahahahahahaha
[12:38] <Bisclaveret> Seveas: there's no sources for non-KDE 3.0, and theres no debian binaries or apt gets for anything beyond woody/sarge :/
[12:38] <seth_k> kangpeh, I'm running Kubuntu on a 2000+ right now... I've run it on a 400MHz box!
[12:38] <kangpeh> And I'm just too comfortable with Gnome O_O
[12:38] <ChrisCF> pfp: Yes, but that means going and getting the rest of fucking KDE :P
[12:38] <pestilence> kangpeh: kde runs ok on my celeron 300 mhz
[12:38] <thechitowncubs> Does the Installer have a NTFS resizer
[12:38] <kangpeh> seth_k:  O_O
[12:38] <cthulfuego> Seveas: You can rotate through a bunch of backgrounds in a directory via a bash script and xsetroot.
[12:38] <kangpeh> seth_K:  why is it slow for me then T_T
[12:38] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, k3b is in ubuntu
[12:38] <ChrisCF> Why are there always so many Germans in the credits of KDE programs?
[12:38] <seth_k> kangpeh... it's smoking fast
[12:38] <kangpeh> seth_K:  but gnome is crazy fast :O
[12:38] <Seveas> cthulfuego, read the question again please...
[12:38] <kangpeh> when i click on firefox
[12:38] <kangpeh> it pops up in an instant in gnome
[12:38] <gahan> i've successfuly bind my multimedia keys but they dont work well. for ex. they cant run opera which is my default browser according to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser or they wont skip tracks in xmms. they arent for use with xmms?!
[12:38] <kangpeh> when i click on firefox in kde
[12:38] <^thehatsrule^> lol ChrisCF :P
[12:38] <kangpeh> it takes like 5-10 seconds
[12:38] <seth_k> heh
[12:38] <Seveas> he said: different backgrounds on differnet Virtual Desktops
[12:38] <cthulfuego> Seveas: Stop confusing me with your logic!
[12:38] <seth_k> no idea
[12:38] <pfp> lol
[12:39] <cthulfuego> Seveas: Write a handler that switches backgrounds when you switch desktops? ;-)
[12:39] <cthulfuego> Seveas: He didn't ask for a _simple_ solution ;-)
[12:39] <Seveas> grin :)
[12:39] <pestilence> thechitowncubs: yes, it does
[12:40] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: AN Athlon2000+ runs kd just fine, btw. Unless you have 128Mb ram.
[12:40] <seth_k> haha, pwn
[12:40] <ChrisCF> Where in k3b is the "don't whore my HD space" option?
[12:40] <Bisclaveret> seveas: where?
[12:40] <pestilence> thechitowncubs: when you install you can change the size of ntfs partitions
[12:40] <Seveas> ChrisCF, it's called aptitude uninstall k3b :)
[12:40] <cthulfuego> ChrisCF: When you go to burn, there's an option to not make an iso first.
[12:40] <transgress> ChrisCF: use on the fly
[12:40] <bobbyd> hi, I have a weird situation. I added a group and added my user to it, but after logging out and in again, i dont see it when I type 'groups'. If i run 'sudo groups rob' I can see it.  Done
[12:41] <Bisclaveret> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[12:41] <Bisclaveret> E: Couldn't find package k3b
[12:41] <kangpeh> :(
[12:41] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, enable network downloads...
[12:41] <kangpeh> what do you guys use
[12:41] <kangpeh> Gnome or KDE
[12:41] <Seveas> Gnome
[12:41] <^thehatsrule^> i use fluxbox
[12:41] <^thehatsrule^> :P
[12:41] <Seveas> and sometimes XFCE
[12:41] <^thehatsrule^> faster than all :P
[12:41] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: That's not relevant to your issue.
[12:41] <transgress> this is #ubuntu... so it's going to be overwhelmingly gnome in here
[12:41] <kangpeh> is KDE better than Gnome, please explain what multimedial/looks benefits/ USE/features i will get
[12:41] <kangpeh> to using KDE, please
[12:41] <transgress> but if you go to #kubuntu it'll be different
[12:41] <kangpeh> because for me hte most important is ease of use, good looks, benefits, features, etc...
[12:41] <transgress> kangpeh: it's a matter of taste
[12:41] <Seveas> kangpeh, it's mainly a matter of taste
[12:41] <^thehatsrule^> kangpeh, just look on the net for lists of them
[12:42] <^thehatsrule^> really
[12:42] <cthulfuego> kangpeh: You'll get the option of puttubng didfferent backgrounds on different virtual desktops.
[12:42] <kangpeh> o_o
[12:42] <pfp> kangpeh: kde is good if you want to tune, tweak and knob around
[12:42] <[FiDO] > gnome is simple but gets the job done
[12:42] <transgress> gnome... simple?  HA!
[12:42] <^thehatsrule^> nah, gnome has a lot of features too
[12:42] <kangpeh> i am likin gnome though
[12:42] <transgress> blackbox is simple... or better... ion
[12:42] <kangpeh> my gnome desktop looks exactly like macOSx lol
[12:42] <[FiDO] > simple looking I meant
[12:42] <^thehatsrule^> kde is more eye-candy than anything
[12:42] <gahan> i've successfuly bind my multimedia keys in GNOME but they dont work well. for ex, i cant run opera which is my default browser according to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser or i cant skip tracks in xmms; bindings for next/prev song arent for use with xmms?
[12:42] <transgress> eh probably not exactly... kde can do the cool toolbar at the top of the screen thing like OSX... i don't recall gnome being able to do that
[12:43] <Bisclaveret> seveas: how do you do that?
[12:43] <Seveas> bisclaveret: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:43] <Seveas> bisclaveret: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:44] <Bisclaveret> i enabled all the repositories once from that beginners guide, and then had a bunch of people tell me 90% of them were unneeded and then they broke me. heh
[12:44] <ChrisCF> ah, it uses growisofs
[12:44] <[FiDO] > has anyone else found the marillat repositories haven't been working
[12:44] <Seveas> Bisclaveret, eeek ubuntuguide
[12:44] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad news
[12:44] <Seveas> [FiDO] , yes, they are malfunctioning
[12:44] <Seveas> and should not be used
[12:44] <pfp> gnome vs. kde: http://bulbasaur.ton.tut.fi/echramath/misc/desktop_enviroments/
[12:45] <DanielC> Hello. Is there a way to restart the internet connection without rebooting the whole computer? (Broadband-Cable, DHCP).
[12:45] <[FiDO] > I'm going to remove them from my list I'm tired of getting the dumb warnings
[12:45] <Seveas> DanielC, ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[12:45] <tombraun> Or /etc/init.d/networks restart
[12:45] <DanielC> Seveas: Thanks!
[12:45] <TokenBad> hello...I am using pureftpd on here and want to allow people to upload files to the dir..but they can only download..and tried to find the pure-ftp.conf file without luck..any help?
[12:46] <tombraun> Does anyone here have any experience with the 'devilspie' utility?
[12:46] <Seveas> tombraun, that is: invoke-rc.d networking restart
[12:46] <Seveas> TokenBad, dpkg -L pureftpd
[12:46] <tombraun> Seveas: STrange, works for me the other way as well.
[12:46] <Seveas> tombraun, of course it does :)
[12:46] <Seveas> but invoke-rc.d is the prferred way
[12:47] <TokenBad> Seveas, what does that do?
[12:47] <tombraun> Seveas: I'm still very new to ubuntu (and debian), so I don't know all the preferred ways...  :-)
[12:47] <Seveas> TokenBad, merely call /etc/init.d/networking but invoke-rc.d is a guaranteed stable interface whereas the internals might change
[12:48] <tombraun> devislpie, anyone? It gives me a weird error message, and I was wondering if someone could help.
[12:48] <mcquaid> anyone know of a gnome panel applet to show drive space similar to the xfce panel plugin?
[12:48] <TokenBad> ok it pulled stuff up on pure-ftpd
[12:48] <TokenBad> but doesn't show the conf file
[12:48] <mcquaid> i really like that feature, and was hoping there is something similar
[12:49] <Efwis> pfp, that is an apt description of the two desktops :) eye candy or utilization which is more important
[12:49] <Seveas> TokenBad, /etc/pureftpd.conf oslt
[12:49] <TokenBad> its not there
[12:49] <Seveas> TokenBad, /etc/pure-ftpd.conf oslt
[12:49] <Seveas> or maybe it's all in /etc/defaults/pureftpd and the initscript
[12:49] <Seveas> read the docs in /usr/share/doc/pureftpd or the pureftpd manpage...
[12:52] <ubun> Anybody use Ubuntu for music production?
[12:52] <ubun> What is the best distro for that?
[12:53] <ninwa> Mac OS X
[12:53] <ninwa> :P
[12:53] <kvidell> lol
[12:53] <lydon> can anyone tell me how I can set my wireless card to be automatically enabled on boot?  right now I have to activate it everytime I reboot
[12:53] <karlos> i use ubuntu for music production
[12:53] <ninwa> lydon are you using ndiswrapper?
[12:54] <lydon> ninwa: I'm not sure?  probably not.
[12:55] <karlos> re: music production I think it's starting to get there
[12:55] <bobbyd> please, does anyone have any ideas, I'm completely at a loss to understand what's going on
[12:56] <ninwa> Oh, if you arn't sure then no. No big deal. I don't know exactly, but I think you need to add a line to your Aliases in /etc/modeprob.d/ - someone PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
[12:56] <ninwa> modprobe*
[12:58] <anto9us> ubun: I've played about with soundtracker in ubuntu, it's quite good
[12:58] <ninwa> I like audacity, but I havn't done much with it and I'm not an audiophile.
[12:58] <ninwa> It seems capable.
[12:59] <lydon> ahh......... very good work ninwa
[12:59] <lydon> thank you
[12:59] <ninwa> Rock on lydon :)
[12:59] <TokenBad> Seveas, any idea why ftp users might not be able to upload files to the ftp?
[01:01] <ninwa> Woohoo update on Gaim today in the ubuntu repositories! We get 1.1.4 now boys!
 :p
[01:01] <synd> oo the ubuntu cds are nice lookin
[01:01] <ninwa> Realy? I ordered some two days ago, still waitin on em
[01:01] <^thehatsrule^> ya they are eh synd--
[01:01] <synd> i ordered some 3 months ago :/
[01:02] <synd> i got 20, 15 x86, 5 ppc
[01:03] <cut0ff> Hi all
[01:04] <synd> uhh im booting into the ubuntu live cd in PPC, and the screen is split in half down the middle
[01:05] <synd> anyone experience this?
[01:05] <kvidell> .............
[01:05] <kvidell> when'd THAT get turned on
[01:06] <deviant> is there any wauy i can set up ICS on my pc, without having Firestarter run all the time ?
[01:06] <deviant> *way
[01:06] <Burnninator> Anyone know how to get an orinoco based wireless card working?
[01:07] <Burnninator> cardctl ident sees it
[01:07] <synd> Burnninator: make sure youre eth0 internal nic is deactivated
[01:08] <transgress> man i've come to a conclusion
[01:08] <transgress> i can A) have a job
[01:08] <Burnninator> how do i go about that? I pulled the ethernet card out of the pcmcia slot
[01:08] <transgress> or B) have a girlfriend
[01:08] <Burnninator> the only one in there is the 2wire wireless card
[01:08] <transgress> i can't do both
[01:09] <karlos_> so who does use buntu for music then
[01:09] <karlos_> anyone?
[01:09] <Burnninator> synd, what do i use to configure the wireless card
[01:09] <Burnninator> ?
[01:09] <synd> karlos_: xmms, rhythmbox
[01:09] <transgress> it's like... before i was going out with this last girlfriend... was doing awesome at work... got her... started lagging behind... broke up last night... already pretty much cleared up my work for today... and i've only been working for an hour
[01:10] <synd> karlos_: beep media player.. a few others.
[01:10] <cthulfuego> deviant: Yes, it's a matter of one single iptables rule and a sysctl.conf entry.
[01:10] <karlos_> what about making music?
[01:10] <anto9us> karlos_: soundtracker
[01:10] <anto9us> I've used it, it's great
[01:10] <Burnninator> if i type iwconfig, all it says is "no wireless extensions" next to lo, wlan0, and sit0
[01:10] <karlos_> cool just been getting into sountrascker
[01:11] <karlos_> got rose garden sorted now
[01:11] <deviant> cthulfuego: could you be more explicit pls. (i`m newbie)
[01:11] <cthulfuego> deviant: Which device is your internet link?
[01:12] <deviant> eth0 using pppoe connection
[01:12] <cthulfuego> deviant: So ppp0
[01:13] <deviant> so i have eth0, eth1 , loopback and ppp0
[01:14] <ChrisCF> Grr.   The script adds a firewall rule which masquerades outgoing traffic (ICS, basically).
[01:17] <deviant> cthulfuego: and the firewall rules is what ?
[01:17] <DarkWolf> While installing, I got an error, which i thought was... rather.. strange...  Error!@
[01:18] <synd> wtf!
[01:18] <cthulfuego> deviant: Ok, as root: echo -e "#!/bin/sh\n/sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE" > /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq; chmod 755 /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0masq
[01:18] <ChrisCF> WTF?
[01:18] <deviant> cthulfuego: where can i find a good tutorial about pppoe connection, iptables and  maquerading. i need to understand all this
[01:18] <cthulfuego> deviant: Forgot the '-o ppp0'
[01:18] <Burnninator> im reading instructions from the ubuntu wiki, and it says
[01:18] <Burnninator> To see if your card is working goto Computer->System Configuration->Networking
[01:18] <ChrisCF> There's such an error as "you burned this CD too quickly"?
[01:18] <cthulfuego> deviant: /usr/share/doc/iptables/html
[01:18] <microhaxo> guys i need major HELP installing WINE!
[01:18] <Burnninator> but i don't see System configuration under Computer
[01:19] <ChrisCF> how does the speed at which you burn a CD affect the data you burn/
[01:19] <DarkWolf> i have NO idea... but that's what it says.. right here..
[01:20] <anto9us> Burnninator: it's System | Administration | Networking
[01:20] <Burnninator> thanks
[01:20] <DarkWolf> "Couldn't retrieve libreadline4. This may be due to a network problem or a bad CD, depending on your installation method. If you are installing from a CD-R or CD-RW, burning the CD at a lower speed may help."
[01:20] <cthulfuego> deviant: And in addition to that script you need to have a line that says net.ipv4.ip_forward=1  in /etc/sysctl.conf to let the kernel know it should route packets.
[01:22] <deviant> cthulfuego: where can i find the iptable file? i wanna take a look at it
[01:23] <DarkWolf> i've tried to format HD again, and restart, but same error... and it's a compleatly new CD, from a compleatly new download, today, from Ubuntu's own page...
[01:24] <deviant> cthulfuego: with what aplication can i edit iptables?
[01:24] <Burnninator> alright, under network settings, it doesn't list my wireless card
[01:25] <Burnninator> any suggestions?
[01:25] <DarkWolf> installed drivers for it?
[01:25] <deviant> lol
[01:26] <Koaesica> at documentation page, can I view all howtos or tutorials?
[01:26] <thenuke> deviant: I am pretty sure that you want to install firestarter
[01:27] <nalioth> deviant: try this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[01:27] <deviant> thenuke: now i`m using it. but i`m not confortable with it runing all the time
[01:28] <thenuke> is that not just a frontend?
[01:28] <nalioth> deviant: that newsforge article goes over serveral iptables manglers
[01:28] <deviant> thenuke: from what i`ve understood, yes, it is.
[01:28] <deviant> nalioth: thank you
[01:29] <thenuke> deviant: yeah, it should not be hangin' around then. But check that url what nalioth gave
[01:29] <moparfan90> hello
[01:29] <uman> y0
[01:30] <moparfan90> anyone have cedega installed on there computer
[01:30] <deviant> thenuke: i`m workin` on it :)
[01:30] <uman> Google is down
[01:30] <uman> how the fuck could google
[01:30] <uman> be down
[01:31] <deviant> thenuke: but 1st i need to understand how iptable and masquerading works
[01:31] <moparfan90> no its not
[01:31] <uman> it is here
[01:31] <thenuke> deviant: google for that
[01:31] <deviant> is workin fine from here
[01:31] <uman> lucky
[01:31] <uman> I have to use MSN search
[01:31] <thenuke> and you really do not need to know that to use some front-ends..
[01:31] <deviant> thenuke: i`m curently reading /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1
[01:32] <Zodiac> Sup dawgs
[01:32] <thenuke> if you figure out how iptables work, you should not use front-ends
[01:32] <thenuke> because it is not that complicated
[01:32] <deviant> thenuke: i know. but i`m a newbie. i don`t have any experience on linux
[01:33] <Zodiac> Guys I have totem and I can play DVDs.... but
[01:33] <thenuke> yup. iptables is not linux :)
[01:33] <Zodiac> It is really choppy and weird
[01:33] <Zodiac> what is the dilly-O
[01:33] <Zodiac> ??
[01:33] <nalioth> Zodiac: have you enabled DMA?
[01:33] <djm62> it's snoop dogg's web browser
[01:34] <Zodiac> DMA?
[01:34] <Zodiac> I think there is some code I have to add to some file
[01:34] <Zodiac> I remember someone telling me that, but I didnt think I needed it at first
[01:34] <synd> Zodiac: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[01:35] <cthulfuego> !dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-)
[01:35] <ubotu> cthulfuego: okay
[01:35] <Zodiac> Okay I did it
[01:36] <Zodiac> Now what? :)
[01:36] <nalioth> Zodiac: now it should be less choppy
[01:36] <synd> now it shouldnt be choppy
[01:36] <synd> cant remember the cmd to add that to the boot process
[01:37] <Zodiac> Excellent
[01:37] <cthulfuego> synd: Just install hdparm and editing /etc/default/hdparm should do.
[01:37] <Zodiac> I hope you are right :)
[01:39] <jabra_> I am trying to figure out what module is needed for us robotics 2410 with kernel 2.6.10
[01:39] <Zodiac> Another weird problem, sometimes when I right click on files on my desktop, it locks up
[01:40] <ubun> Anybady knows what we select in the window: MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM SELECTOR?
[01:41] <anto9us> ubun: I have ESD on mine
[01:42] <Zodiac> Any ideas?
[01:42] <caonex> anybody running a dhcp server?
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[01:43] <ubun> A little confused having ALSA and not select ALSA, isn't it?
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> udhcpcd
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> er
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> udhcpd
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> ubun: only if you know what alsa is
[01:44] <HrdwrBoB> and nto esd
[01:44] <ubun> Almost all the cards suing the ALSA drivers...
[01:44] <ubun> Almost all the cards use the ALSA drivers...
[01:44] <jr0129> i have a question how would you install something that is .src.rpm at the end?
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> ubun: correct
[01:45] <moparfan90> any one here have cedega installed on there computer?
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: you would tell us what it is so we could direct you to a better source
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> moparfan90: yes
[01:45] <ubun> jr, I have the same question
[01:45] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: it is 3ddesktop-.02.8-1.src.rpm
[01:46] <moparfan90> hrdwrbob: is it worth the money? and how much does it cost?
[01:46] <ubun> Hrdwr, So Why not elect ALSA ?
[01:46] <ubun> Hrdwr, So Why not select ALSA ?
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> moparfan90: $15US
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> for me, yes
[01:46] <moparfan90> you play counter strike source
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> ubun: because esd provides multiple concurrent sounds
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> no I don't
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> however it should work perfectly
[01:46] <moparfan90> any games
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: just get 3ddesktop from synaptic
[01:47] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: i search synaptic and it is not in there
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> I use it to play far cry, world of warcraft and warcraft 3
[01:47] <misfitx7> has anyone installed on an ibook?
[01:47] <nalioth> jr0129: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: make sure you've added the universe repository
[01:47] <jasoncohen> i'm trying to setup cron-apt to send email to my ISP's SMTP server using SSL/TLS. It worked fine w/o authentication but my ISP has recently changed its policies. I set smtp.comcast.net;username:password in /etc/exim4/passwd.client and I also setup exim4 to use smtp.comcast.net as the smarthost but i get connection timed out messages
[01:47] <nalioth> misfitx7: yes
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> misfitx7: yes people have
[01:47] <moparfan90> do they work better on linx then on windows?
[01:48] <ubun> Than, what we select in the window: MULTIMEDIA SYSTEM SELECTOR?
[01:48] <jasoncohen> any ideas?
[01:48] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: i don't believe i have. Do you know what it is?
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> ubun: esd
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: in the 'sections' area
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> add 'universe'
[01:48] <nalioth> jr0129: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> in addition to 'main'
[01:49] <misfitx7> nalioth: how did you boot it? can you boot holding control on boot?
[01:49] <nalioth> misfitx7: are you asking about the install CD? what mac are you using?
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> jasoncohen: maybe it's trying to connect on the secure SMTP port by default
[01:49] <misfitx7> ibook 800
[01:49] <fares> How can I set file associations? example: I want .avi files to play in VLC not totem.
[01:50] <jasoncohen> HrdwrBoB, i want it to use SSL on port 465. I can't connect unless SSL is used. it won't send my login/pass in the clear obviously
[01:50] <misfitx7> i mean, how do you boot it once its installed
[01:50] <ubun> Hrd, OK. I couldnt understand the existence of others options
[01:51] <fares> anyone? :)
[01:51] <concept10> what do you guys use for password management
[01:52] <seth_k> revelation
[01:52] <concept10> seth_k, revelation for pwds?
[01:52] <pinko> nothing except opera, for the web
[01:52] <nalioth> misfitx7: it should have installed yaboot
[01:52] <seth_k> indeed, concept 10
[01:52] <seth_k> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=revelation
[01:53] <nalioth> concept10: my organic memory
[01:53] <seth_k> I believe there is a newer version in backports
[01:53] <seth_k> if not, let me know, and I'll backport it for you
[01:53] <nalioth> backports cause system instability
[01:54] <microhaxo> can someone tell me how to install java?
[01:54] <concept10> nalioth, im getting old, memory is starting to fade. i cant even remember what distro im using
[01:54] <nalioth> microhaxo: there is a good article on www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ on just that subject
[01:54] <seth_k> nalioth, not if you don't backport libs
[01:55] <nalioth> concept10: then the wood and charcoal/graphite and dead tree products will help
[01:55] <moparfan90> does anyone here use cedega?
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> moparfan90: I already said that I did
[01:55] <moparfan90> o.
[01:55] <microhaxo> it dont work
[01:55] <nalioth> seth_k: but how many n00bs are gonna enable bp, get the one thing they want,and then disable bp?
[01:55] <seth_k> very true, nalioth
[01:55] <moparfan90> i didnt see your name on the list i thought you left
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> there's something like 300 people in this channel
[01:56] <jr0129> how would i end a process (by process name) using the terminal?
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: killall programname
[01:56] <concept10> have you guys heard of this site: http://klik.atekon.de/
[01:56] <odie5533> Anyone here use Glade?
[01:56] <nalioth> HrdwrBoB: and how many are at home asleep?
[01:57] <HrdwrBoB> nalioth: a lot :)
[01:57] <nomasteryoda|w> jr0129, if you know part of the program name, type
[01:57] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: thank you
[01:57] <nomasteryoda|w> ps ax | grep name
[01:57] <ubun> Anybody uses the AGNULA distro?
[01:58] <thechitowncubs> How reliable is the NTFS resizing?
[01:58] <thechitowncubs> I don't want to ruin any data
[01:58] <thechitowncubs> I'm installing linux on my sisters friends computer and I need to resize the NTFS partition
[01:58] <DarkWolf> you ask this in a Linux channel thechitowncubs?
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> DarkWolf: it's on topic
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> thechitowncubs: I'm led to believe it's fine, though I haven't done it personally
[01:59] <thechitowncubs> Yes, because I am installing linux
[01:59] <moparfan90> good. linux is alot better then any other
[01:59] <nomasteryoda|w> thechitowncubs, make sure you backup critical data/programs
[01:59] <thechitowncubs> ok, i will
[01:59] <concept10> thechitowncubs, make sure you back up important data.  Resizing is safe with backup
[01:59] <DarkWolf> didn't say it wasen't.. but i'll stfu :)
[01:59] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[01:59] <binbrain> fares: anybody answer your question?
[02:00] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: i don't touch ntfs. <<<that is a period
[02:00] <jr0129> what is the syntax for using xterm?
[02:01] <thechitowncubs> I wouldn't either, but its my sitseters friend
[02:01] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: what do you mean
[02:01] <nalioth> thechitowncubs: do your sis' friend a favor, and clean the filth off the machine
[02:02] <nomasteryoda|w> when i try to upgrade the kernel using updates, I get an error about ndiswrapper.ko ... how do i update
[02:02] <nomasteryoda|w> do i need to remove the ndiswrapper before it will install?
[02:02] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: for setting up a keybinding to run a command from a terminal i believe you would type xterm and then the command correct or is the syntax wrong?
[02:02] <ubun> Anybody uses the AGNULA distro?
[02:03] <concept10> Is there anyway to access Ubuntu's hardware data base?
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: I would recommend using gnome-terminal
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> but yeah
[02:04] <cthulfuego> concept10: How do you mean?
[02:04] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: what you want is gnome-terminal -e command
[02:04] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: what would be the line for that/
[02:04] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: thank you once again
[02:05] <concept10> cthulfuego, I want to see the information that Ubuntu has collected, is that accessible?
[02:05] <cthulfuego> concept10: Ah, no idea.
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: be aware though if you're starting a noninteractive program it could run and close the window straight away
[02:05] <fares> binbrain no. no one answered my question
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> because that window will close when the program does
[02:05] <D1> does anyone know if there is a ubuntu irc channel for laptops?
[02:05] <odie5533> how do I include header files when compiling with gcc?
[02:05] <cthulfuego> D1: You're on it.
[02:05] <nalioth> D1: not that i know, whats your question?
[02:05] <D1> oh ok.
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> odie5533: I think you need to either ask a different question, or choose a different channel
[02:06] <cthulfuego> odie5533: You add #include "foo.h" statements to the source.
[02:06] <D1> well, its more of a kernel question but I'm wondering what the status of the smart battery implementation is in the latest patch kernel.
[02:06] <D1> its the only thing I can't get working in ubuntu or any other distro.
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> odie5533: sorry that came across badly, but if you're learning how to develop things, probably a channel based on that would be more appropriate
[02:07] <nalioth> D1: that went over my head so high, i don't even know you asked a question....lol
[02:07] <nomasteryoda|w> HrdwrBoB, is there a way to make the bluetooth mouse keep it's settings ... with screensaver activates, it disconnnects the mouse
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> nomasteryoda|w: that would be irritating I imagine
[02:09] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: what is the command for ending a process by it's process name
[02:10] <misfit-toy> D1, smart battery works fine here
[02:10] <D1> anyone know any news about smart battery support in the kernel?
[02:10] <D1> what kernel version?
[02:10] <cthulfuego> D1: Never heard of it, sorry.
[02:11] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: killall processname
[02:11] <jabra_> can anyone help me install a wireless card, I think it uses prism
[02:12] <jabra_> u.s. robotics 2410
[02:12] <synd> jabra_: my us robotics worked right out of the box
[02:12] <synd> jabra_: but im not sure what the model number is. it was a PCMCIA car
[02:12] <synd> d
[02:13] <jabra_> ya
[02:13] <jabra_> I dunno
[02:13] <D1> misfit-toy: what kernel version are you running?
[02:13] <jabra_> kernel 2.6.10
[02:14] <jabra_> synd: ya I am not sure if it is prism orinoco or what
[02:16] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: by any chance i have one more question and that is pertaining to configuring apm into my kernel so that i have power management on my computer i run apm and it says the support isn't built into the kernel
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: ACPI is enabled by default and is better than apm in almost every way
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> which is why apm isn't in your kernel
[02:17] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: ok thank you
[02:17] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: how do i configure the setting in it?
[02:18] <HrdwrBoB> what do you want to change
[02:18] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: when my computer goes to stand by and such like that i want to see what the times are on that
[02:19] <tberman> i have installed the langpack-base-th, and i run an app with LANG="th_TH.UTF-8", but the gtk+ stock buttons stay normal, do i have to change anything?
[02:19] <jonerling> how to install deb files?
[02:19] <Randall> any one have ane ppc exeriance?
[02:19] <Randall> any
[02:19] <fares> jonerling: apt-get install <package name>
[02:20] <cthulfuego> Randall: yep.
[02:20] <moparfan90> anyon have very good software that you think is worth using for linux
[02:20] <moparfan90> anyone**
[02:20] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: 'vim'
[02:20] <Randall> cthulfuego, I have a power mac 6500 and I can't get it to boot of the cd
[02:20] <cthulfuego> Randall: Correct.
[02:20] <jonerling> fares: i got the deb file on my desktop
[02:21] <Randall> cthulfuego, so what do I do any suggestions?
[02:21] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: hrm I'm not sure
[02:21] <cthulfuego> Randall: You're going to need either a floppy or a small MacOS partition with a small amount of free space.
[02:21] <moparfan90> cthulfuego: whats VIM
[02:21] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: do you know any way to control the power setting on the computer?
[02:21] <concept10> Anyone here have laptop with P4 Speedstep?
[02:21] <cthulfuego> Randall: The latter (MacOS install) is by far the easier option.
[02:21] <Randall> ok
[02:21] <HrdwrBoB> jr0129: you can change various things in /proc/
[02:22] <moparfan90> cthulfuego: whats VIM
[02:22] <Randall> cthulfuego, tried to install bootx is that right?
[02:22] <cthulfuego> Randall: Yep.
[02:22] <cthulfuego> Randall: But you will need to _keep_ MacOS on there to bootstrap via BootX each time.
[02:22] <jr0129> hrdwrbob: where in /proc/ and also how do i see what the system recognizes my harddrive as for instance see if it is hda2 or whatever
[02:23] <Epix> is there any good music recording/editing software for linux? opensource, of course :)
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> type 'dmesg' and it lists all the kernel messages
[02:23] <cthulfuego> Randall: it's a bit of a PITA, but once it's working, it'll keep working :-)
[02:23] <HrdwrBoB> you'll probably want dmesg|less
[02:23] <Randall> cthulfuego, thats fine the only prob is I don't have internet or a cd burner for that mechine I have to burn files off my intel linux mechine and it thinks all the files a text
[02:23] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: vim is an editor.
[02:23] <moparfan90> how do you install limewire on ubuntu???
[02:23] <moparfan90>  cthulfuego: for what
[02:23] <Epix> moparfan90, you dont, pirate
[02:23] <cthulfuego> Randall: aiyee.
[02:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> ack..
[02:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying to compile a plug-in for gaim and i get this error:
[02:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.4 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4 gaim >= 1.0... Package gaim was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[02:24] <cthulfuego> Randall: if you download .hqx files, you can burn them and then use stuffit expander.
[02:24] <moparfan90>  Epix: moparfan90, you dont, pirate// what! how do you install limewire on ubuntu??
[02:25] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: I thought you wanted _good_ software?
[02:25] <Randall> cthulfuego, ok that sounds like a plan will try
[02:25] <Randall> cthulfuego, thanks for all the help
[02:25] <HrdwrBoB> Epix: yes, there is one, it has heaps of features and its name escapes me for a minute
[02:25] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: you will need the gaim-dev package
[02:25] <cthulfuego> Randall: Good luck :-)
[02:25] <moparfan90> i do. what do you mean?
[02:25] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: last I checked limewire was crap software.
[02:26] <moparfan90> ok. whats a good p2p software hen fo linux
[02:26] <jr0129> how do i view my partitions?
[02:26] <cthulfuego> jr0129: fdisk -l
[02:26] <dockane> ping
[02:26] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: bittorrent works fine
[02:26] <uc50ic4more> moparfan90 - GTK-Gnutella, IIRC, is in one of the repositories
[02:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB you're a genius.
[02:27] <uc50ic4more> moparfan90, there is also a DirectConnect client in there somewhere too
[02:27] <moparfan90> whats the link for bitorent?
[02:27] <HrdwrBoB> I know
[02:27] <moparfan90> uc50ic4more: in where
[02:27] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: There is no link, it's installed by default.
[02:27] <Quozl> help, gave a friend a 5.04 cd, she's installed it, now she wants to know how to connect to the internet via dialup modem 56k, where is this documented?
[02:27] <moparfan90> o
[02:27] <jr0129> cthulfuego: it doesn't show my internal harddrive it only shows my external the root system is on the internal though
[02:28] <cthulfuego> Quozl: She can run pppconfig from a terminal.
[02:28] <Randall> cthulfuego, your going to hate me its look like a mac os 7 and don't seem to have stuff it installed
[02:28] <Epix> HrdwrBoB, remember it now :P?
[02:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> now it's workin
[02:28] <cthulfuego> Quozl: if she's got a winmodem though... you're in for PAIN.
[02:28] <Quozl> cthulfuego: oh, so just like debian, eh?  kppp or gnome ppp available?
[02:28] <cthulfuego> Randall: Ey? OS7 should be fine.
[02:28] <moparfan90> how do you download with bittorent???
[02:28] <cthulfuego> Quozl: I expect so... not sure, haven't used dialup since last year in Brazil <heh>
[02:29] <Epix> HrdwrBoB, is it called jack?
[02:29] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: What are you wanting to download?
[02:29] <Quozl> cthulfuego: thanks.  will try suggesting that sequence.
[02:29] <HrdwrBoB> Epix: JACK is a backend plugin thingo
[02:29] <Randall> cthulfuego, I bunred the hqx file and still sees it as a text file
[02:29] <moparfan90> anything. mostly music
[02:29] <cthulfuego> Randall: Is stiffut expander installed?
[02:29] <cthulfuego> Randall: Uh, stuffit even
[02:29] <moparfan90> how do i search for stuff then d/l
[02:29] <Randall> cthulfuego,  don't look like it
[02:30] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: You can download music from music sites. if you're after copyrighted material, you're in the wrong channel.
[02:30] <cthulfuego> Randall: Crud, then I fear you're stuck.
[02:30] <moparfan90> ok. well how do i search for legal software with bittorent
[02:31] <zyth> Randall, you will need stuffit expander from aladdin systems or whatever.
[02:31] <Epix> HrdwrBoB, is it called rosegarden?
[02:31] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: You search for legal misic via google and then make sure it has a torrent download.
[02:31] <cthulfuego> zyth: That's not going to be useful.
[02:31] <moparfan90> o
[02:31] <zyth> cthulfuego, oh? my bad
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> Epix: there's many
[02:31] <cthulfuego> zyth: You need 1) A net conenction. 2) OSX and 3) OS8.6 or higher.
[02:31] <HrdwrBoB> Epix: ardour
[02:31] <zyth> ohh.
[02:31] <zyth> Erm yes.
[02:32] <cthulfuego> zyth: Aladdin (now renamed) don't make life easy for old amc users.
[02:32] <zyth> cthulfuego, well that sucks :(
[02:32] <ubun> I cant run xmms I get the message:Sound server informational message:
[02:32] <ubun> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[02:32] <ubun> device: default can't be opened for playback (Device or resource busy)
[02:32] <cthulfuego> zyth: I had to go and dig around for a jaz disk!!!! with an old backup.
[02:32] <Randall> cthulfuego, thanks again
[02:32] <ubun> What can I do?
[02:32] <cthulfuego> Randall: np.
[02:33] <cthulfuego> zyth: Oh, a 4) You need an older expander to expand the new download.
[02:33] <cthulfuego> zyth: But 5) not too old, because the formats have changed.
[02:33] <HillTop> Has Ubuntu started mailing the Hoary CD packages? I know it was a while after Warty released that it was mailed. Thanks
[02:33] <seth_k> HillTop, if you got Warty CDs, you will be the last to get Hoary CDs
[02:34] <seth_k> HillTop, people who didn't get Warty get Hoary first
[02:34] <seth_k> HillTop, however I heard yesterday that some people who had Warty just received Hoary, so shouldn't be long :)
[02:34] <thechitowncubs> I just got my cds :)
[02:34] <thechitowncubs> and i've already given away a lot of em
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> mine have not arrived yet
[02:35] <thechitowncubs> they should have a distribution center in the US
[02:35] <HillTop> That is OK, I have folk who are interested but they can wait. :)   I installed Hoary but only after a few tried -- my downloads had errors.
[02:35] <moparfan90> are there any p2p software out there for ubuntu other then bittorent
[02:35] <mic_> yes limewire for one
[02:35] <cthulfuego> moparfan90: Check the manual for 'apt-cache' and see the 'search' option.
[02:35] <HillTop> Yes, my Warty s werer mailed from USA.
[02:36] <yaaar> word
[02:36] <moparfan90> how do you install limewire in ubunutu
[02:36] <thechitowncubs> gtk-gnutella
[02:36] <thechitowncubs> moparfan90: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutela
[02:36] <moparfan90> whats that mean
[02:36] <thechitowncubs> sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella  **
[02:36] <thechitowncubs> that is how you install it
[02:37] <moparfan90> is that a virus
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> no
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> it's not
[02:37] <moparfan90> it lie sh limewire.sh or something
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> it's a program that's functionally equivalent
[02:37] <Guerin> moparfan90: don't bother with lamewire.
[02:37] <mic_> it is the instruction to install gnutell
[02:37] <J35U5> yeah i use gtk-gnutella. its awesome.
[02:38] <thechitowncubs> yep, me too :)
[02:38] <moparfan90> where do i type that? in konsole
[02:38] <mic_> terminal moparfan
[02:38] <moparfan90> what do i type exactly
[02:39] <Randall> cthulfuego, last question I sware
[02:39] <mic_> 	sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella     moparfan
[02:39] <Randall> cthulfuego, whwat nic card would work out of the box with np
[02:40] <moparfan90> it didn't work
[02:41] <J35U5> moparfan90, you can get it with synaptic as well.
[02:41] <yaaar> hrmf
[02:41] <yaaar> stupid xchat
[02:41] <yaaar> crashed when i changed fonts
[02:41] <moparfan90> how...
[02:41] <zyth> weird
[02:42] <ironmc> anyone know how to play MP3's  with Ubuntu?
[02:42] <Guerin> moparfan90: what didn't work about it?
[02:42] <J35U5> open synaptic and search gtk gnutella
[02:42] <zyth> ironmc, install xmms?
[02:42] <J35U5> ironmc, xmms
[02:42] <mic_> xmms player ironmc
[02:42] <ironmc> xmms is for KDE??
[02:42] <moparfan90> wheres synaptic .
[02:43] <thechitowncubs> no...
[02:43] <moparfan90> how do i open
[02:43] <thechitowncubs> moparfan90: are you kidding?
[02:43] <moparfan90> Guerin:: i dont kow i said cant find file
[02:43] <thechitowncubs> System>Administration>Synaptic
[02:43] <moparfan90> o. im a nOOb
[02:43] <mic_> system,administartion  moparfan
[02:43] <mic_> me too I've been using linux a week
[02:43] <J35U5> ohh he needs to set it up to search univers
[02:44] <moparfan90> ok. its open now hat
[02:44] <tony> How can I reset my Gnome back to the default panel?
[02:44] <moparfan90> what*
[02:44] <thechitowncubs> I don't know how thats going to get done ;)
[02:44] <tony> I'm refering to the Gnome panel with the Gnome logo...
[02:45] <zyth> I need more eyecandy in my ubuntu, I have way too many free system resources.
[02:45] <vinux> zyiro, hehe
[02:45] <thechitowncubs> zyth: gDesklets :)
[02:45] <vinux> zyth, hehe
[02:45] <moparfan90> ok. its open noww hat
[02:45] <thechitowncubs> search it mo
[02:45] <thechitowncubs> use your brain
[02:46] <mic_> don't make others do all the thinking
[02:46] <moparfan90> hey. be nice
[02:46] <Guerin> hey. be smart.
[02:46] <zyth> gDesklets? is this like Konfabulator?
[02:46] <moparfan90> what i it caled?
[02:46] <thechitowncubs> zyth: ya, its a desklets daemon, works good.
[02:46] <zyth> funky
[02:46] <thechitowncubs> try it out
[02:47] <thechitowncubs> its in universe
[02:47] <zyth> yeah, I see it here in synaptic
[02:47] <zyth> ok :)
[02:47] <deshantm> tony, what do you want to do?
[02:48] <zyth> Cedega works too well :/  I'd rather have Linux versions of games, but I can understand why companies wouldn't bother...
[02:49] <moparfan90> cedega work good fo you?
[02:49] <zyth> yep
[02:49] <moparfan90> games run with low png
[02:49] <moparfan90> ping/
[02:49] <yaaar> d3d support is all good?
[02:50] <mic_> I could use a link for mounting   /dev/hda6  please
[02:50] <yaaar> mic_, a link? what file type is it?
[02:50] <mic_> its a drive
[02:50] <mic_> how does one mount a partition
[02:50] <D1> anyone know how to apply the kernel prepatch to 2.6.x kernel? I tried patch -p1 but doesn't work.
[02:50] <moparfan90> bye
[02:50] <yaaar> mic_, just 'mnt /dev/hda6 /mnt/whereyouwanttomountit' doesn't work?
[02:50] <yaaar> ahoot
[02:51] <mic_> tried with no success
[02:51] <yaaar> mic_, uh...sorry.... 'mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/mountpoint'
[02:51] <D1> I do patch -p1 patchname in the linux source directory
[02:51] <mic_> thanks I'll give it a go
[02:52] <tiglionabbit> mic_: make sure you create the directory you want to mount it to first
[02:52] <mic_> righto I think lol]
[02:53] <tiglionabbit> later you can add it to fstab to make it mount on startup
[02:55] <Burnninator> anyone know what package contains lex?
[02:56] <mic_> ty all cya later
[02:56] <zyth> Anyone know any good free music sites of the legal variety that don't have crap?
[02:56] <Epix> how do i run a tcl script?
[02:56] <thechitowncubs> mp3.com was free?
[02:57] <zyth> thechitowncubs, yeah, it had a huge archive sorted by music type, lots of free downloads, or you could buy cds, etc.
[02:58] <thechitowncubs> wow
[02:58] <djs> Burnninator: looks like "flex" does
[03:02] <Epix> how do i make a var in tcl?
[03:03] <deshantm> Epix, did you try searching on google...  If you not carefull it locks you out
[03:09] <pinko> what does openbox do?
[03:09] <twister> My Problem is that I cannot light the computer
[03:09] <twister> It continues beeping and he will not stop
[03:10] <twister> I am flustered as tones go on and my computer is connected up. In fact the noise of lthe is problem since inundation.
[03:10] <adapt> vinux: locks you out?
[03:10] <twister> There is somebody is the room of dialogue which knows answers. I am no good when the computer begins throwing sparks
[03:10] <Guerin> pinko: not much.  I dunno lol
[03:11] <Guerin> twister: plug the machine out and send it back for a service.
[03:11] <twister> I have problems traslating as I am not English
[03:11] <zyth> OMG I have a floppy drive
[03:11] <zyth> I didn't even know that.
[03:11] <pinko> inundation
[03:11] <zyth> hey there IS one.
[03:12] <zyth> scary, gnome showed me something I didn't even realise :/
[03:12] <unifi> hi...would anyone be interested in writing a how-to for my linux blog?
[03:12] <twister> Main problem is that tones make it so I cannot see electronic mail and represent my sister sent me
[03:13] <twister> I must send transmission e-mail it as marriage is next Thursday
[03:13] <thechitowncubs> WOOHOO
[03:13] <thechitowncubs> NTFS resize was flawless
[03:14] <adapt> twister.. what is your native language?
[03:14] <twister> Who can sell that doesn' t spark and simple percentage not flooded with viruses like current one has me new hard drive
[03:14] <pinko> wow.
[03:14] <thechitowncubs> haha
[03:14] <eruin> that was  a long stream of words
[03:15] <thechitowncubs> i think that was a long RIVER of words
[03:15] <djs> vinux: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages
[03:15] <eruin> I wonder what he means
[03:15] <eruin> :p
[03:15] <thechitowncubs> ya, now im curious
[03:15] <thechitowncubs> :)
[03:16] <twister> I speak a variation of the language which I learnt between my time in the Caribbean
[03:16] <pinko> your translator is committing terrible acts of vengeance for something.
[03:16] <zyth> well it lives in PA.
[03:17] <adapt> twister: NATIVE language
[03:17] <eruin> sweet jane
[03:17] <adapt> where are you from
[03:17] <twister> I use the free translation software to help my to solve crimes on my hard disk throwing sparks
[03:17] <adapt> hahah
[03:17] <eruin> that sounds serious
[03:17] <zyth> I am from the place where the innundation of sparking viruses does not overflow my hard disk
[03:17] <zyth> :P
[03:17] <eruin> my graphics card is the closes to "throwing sparks" in here
[03:17] <adapt> his harddrive is litterally on fire and he is worried about sending an email
[03:17] <eruin> seeing as its fan just came off :o
[03:18] <pinko> I wonder what he typed that came out as "throwing sparks"
[03:18] <twister> If I buy a graphic card will go it to make send to my poor sister e-mail the husband of which is a being on drugs of coke
[03:19] <eruin> haha
[03:19] <adapt> like a soap opera
[03:19] <eruin> or a variation of dude, where's my car
[03:19] <pinko> I no longer buy the story, but it's funny.
[03:19] <eruin> for geeks
[03:19] <zyth> only a GeForce 6800GT could get THAT email through
[03:19] <senra> Hi, I'm a newcomer to Ubuntu. Does anybody know how to change  into cedilha ?
[03:19] <adapt> i concur
[03:19] <twister> Where make I am going to accept a French eloquent hard disk without virus
[03:20] <adapt> no french people allowed
[03:21] <yaaar> no, french *people* are fine. it's those french *hard drives* that we don't want around
[03:22] <adapt> heh
[03:22] <DarkWolf> twister, i have no idea what you are saying man...
[03:22] <transgress> so i think Mandrake is slowly working on becoming "Mandriculous"
[03:22] <twister> It is absolutly no helps... I need a lesson in the abduction of jetants hard disks of the sparks.... I do not love French people the one or other one help please I have 1 computer and the electronic mail of the sister is left without other connection there.  You guys have really improved gnome in the hoary release.
[03:26] <vinux> billytwowilly, gnome is uberness!
[03:26] <yaaar> billytwowilly, well, i'm not sure it's quite like that. but yes, gnome has been making quick progress
[03:27] <billytwowilly> vinux, I'm a kde fan;) But atleast gnome is useable now. The gnome setup in ubuntu is now quite nice.
[03:27] <rymdapan> i realy hate my touchpad!
[03:27] <rymdapan> it makes me go nuts
[03:27] <billytwowilly> The last time I used gnome was in warty and it was much clunkier than this.
[03:27] <vinux> billytwowilly, Yea I used kde for about 2+ years. It's really nice but I'm starting to like gnome
[03:28] <billytwowilly> Honestly, they both have problems, albeit different ones (and their problems aren't as bad as winxp's problems;)
[03:28] <Thorrn4> hello! for some reason...I cannot view what is on a CD/DVD...I played a DATA DVD into the DVD drive...but this user cannot access it; another user that I have on this machine can...but not the one I'm on...the one I always use
[03:29] <billytwowilly> what was the name of that gnome cd burning app that is fairly new, but somewhat decent?
[03:29] <neiras> Hello - I have a number of packages that are 'kept back'. What does this mean?
[03:30] <neiras> billytwowilly, gnome-baker
[03:30] <Thorrn4> billytwowilly, just use k3b...it is good
[03:30] <billytwowilly> lol, ok;)
[03:30] <vinux> gnome-baker is nice
[03:30] <Thorrn4> for some reason...I cannot view what is on a CD/DVD...I played a DATA DVD into the DVD drive...but this user cannot access it; another user that I have on this machine can...but not the one I'm on...the one I always use
[03:30] <dreaddydave> gnome-baker is buggy
[03:30] <Thorrn4> yea it is
[03:31] <neiras> Thorrn4, add the user that can't access the drive to the group 'cdrom'
[03:31] <vinux> Well I only did a Data CD on gnome-baker and it worked fine but that's all I've done with it
[03:31] <dreaddydave> It always tells me the 640mb is too large to fit on my 700mb disk
[03:31] <dreaddydave> stuff like that
[03:32] <neiras> dreaddydave, you need to select the size of the media you have in the lower right corner of the app
[03:32] <dreaddydave> yup
[03:32] <billytwowilly> dreaddydave, might be hard coded into the app? in k3b that is a config option..
[03:32] <ironmc> Now that XMMS is installed it froze up without playing the file.    Obviously can't use ctl/alt/esc like SuSe
[03:32] <dreaddydave> it is in the lowe corner
[03:32] <dreaddydave> *lower
[03:33] <neiras> There is no way for gnome-baker to tell how large an empty cdr is
[03:33] <billytwowilly> ironmc, killall xmms
[03:33] <rnocom> hi, anybody had success installing sjsas on hoary?
[03:33] <ironmc> thx
[03:33] <neiras> you have to tell it how big the one you've inserted is
[03:33] <billytwowilly> ironmc,  or ps -A | grep xmms
[03:33] <billytwowilly> ironmc, then kill -9 the process number you got from above command
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> or killall -9 xmms
[03:33] <truz24> is the cpu frequency monitor applet supposed to show cpu usage ?  If not, what applet shows CPU usage ?
[03:33] <dreaddydave> I have to set it to a dvd size, put all my files on it, then toggle it back to 700mb
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> or kill -9 $(pidof xmms)
[03:34] <HrdwrBoB> truz24: 'system monitor'
[03:34] <truz24> thanks HrdwrBoB
[03:35] <ironmc> any other ideas to play MP3's??
[03:36] <dreaddydave> ironmc are you using a nvidia car
[03:36] <dreaddydave> *card
[03:36] <ironmc> yes I am
[03:36] <ironmc> on board
[03:36] <dreaddydave> i think there is a bug
[03:36] <Eighth_> do i have to do something on my machine to open port 80?
[03:36] <ironmc> it worked yesterday with SuSe
[03:37] <ironmc> after I installed the fix from nvidia
[03:37] <dreaddydave> might be specific to ubuntu
[03:37] <dreaddydave> or not
[03:37] <ironmc> I tried w/ Ubuntu  but I can't find the kernel source files
[03:37] <dreaddydave> ahh
[03:38] <ironmc> I am using the download version  are the source files on it, perhaps?
[03:38] <dreaddydave> don't know
[03:39] <anto9us> Eighth_: only process run as root can open ports below 1000
[03:39] <ironmc> thx anyway  I'll find them
[03:39] <billytwowilly> ironmc, is xmms configured to use esd?
[03:40] <Eighth_> anto9us: i'm running an apache server, but port 80 from the outside appears stealth... no response from it
[03:40] <anto9us> Eighth_: do you have a firewall?
[03:40] <concept10> Do you guys have the problem of when trying to install apps synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[03:41] <ironmc> don't know what that is
[03:41] <Eighth_> anto9us: it's built into my router, but i have :80 redirected to my comp
[03:42] <anto9us> Eighth_: can you connect to apache locally?
[03:42] <Eighth_> yeah
[03:42] <Eighth_> here's the line in my firewall: Allow	Virtual Server HTTP	WAN,*	LAN,<IP_ADDRESS>	TCP,80
[03:42] <Eighth_> source: WAN,any IP
[03:42] <Eighth_> dest: LAN,my comp
[03:44] <anto9us> Eighth_: I don't know much about apache I'm afraid, I would imagine it defaults to allowing connections external to your machine on port 80
[03:44] <Eighth_> one would think
[03:45] <anto9us> Eighth_: have you another machine on your lan to test it from?
[03:45] <Eighth_> i could connect my lappy
[03:45] <ivoks> it listens on *:80
[03:45] <anto9us> Eighth_: I think that would help in solving it
[03:45] <ivoks> try telnet your_ip 80
[03:46] <Eighth_> could not resolve
[03:46] <ivoks> could not resolve?!
[03:46] <Eighth_> that's what it says
[03:46] <ivoks> Eighth_ replace your_ip with your IP
[03:46] <bob_> hey, I'm using ubuntu 5.04 and I'm trying to get evolution-exchange working, has any one played with this and got it working?
[03:46] <Eighth_> telnet: could not resolve meznak.homelinux.net:80/telnet: Name or service not known
[03:47] <senra> Anybody know how to convert  into cedilha (,c)
[03:47] <ivoks> Eighth_ I said IP, not hostname
[03:47] <cary> hello everyone
[03:47] <cary> (not that i expect a reply)
[03:47] <bob_> hey cary
[03:47] <anto9us> hello cary, you can expect the unexpected here ;)
[03:47] <cary> bob..are you the same bob as bob2 from earlier?
[03:48] <cary> anto9us, good to know~
[03:48] <cary> anto9us, sort of like with ubuntu so far (still very much learning)
[03:48] <Eighth_> telnet: could not resolve <IP_ADDRESS>:80/telnet: Name or service not known
[03:48] <anto9us> cary: as am I :)
[03:48] <bob2> no, he/she is not
[03:48] <cary> bob2, hey! its bob2!
[03:49] <vinux> If anyone is interested in ubuntu 5.04 pkg list try here ---> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[03:49] <cary> im about to make hte plunge. i have tiger sitting here and im nervously awaiting my brain to give me the go-ahead to start the process
[03:49] <ivoks> Eighth_ does ps ax | grep apache shows any apache instance running?
[03:50] <Eighth_> several
[03:50] <cary> anyone have any last advice for me about to do a clean install of tiger. i have my old Everything saved on my lacie, but i dont want to mess stuff up
[03:50] <ivoks> Eighth_ and what does /etc/apache2/port[.conf]  says?
[03:50] <xMaximex> how do i get mozilla to use "windows style" fonts ?
[03:51] <Eighth_> Listen 80
[03:51] <Eighth_> how can i tell which apache ver i'm actually using? i have 1 & 2 on my system
[03:51] <joni_> I can't enable DMA for my computer, it says the the operation is not permitted, does anyone have any advice?
[03:51] <capi> anyone know a good resource on setting up a smtp server with postfix?
[03:51] <capi> Eighth_, look at the directory, apache2 will be in ... apache2
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> capi: tjere
[03:52] <anto9us> joni_: have you tried your command with sudo?
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> there's about a trillion in google
[03:52] <Eighth_> capi: i have apache/ and apache2/
[03:52] <ivoks> Eighth_ apache2 runs as apache2, and apache1 runs as apache
[03:52] <iceonnet> how to mount ntfs disks?
[03:52] <joni_> ya, i'm doing it w/ sudo
[03:52] <Eighth> k, then i'm running apache
[03:52] <FR500> hellp
[03:52] <FR500> hello i mean
[03:52] <ivoks> Eighth then you should configure apache1, not apache2
[03:52] <FR500> how do i mount an iso image?
[03:53] <capi> Eighth_, then you may be running both if you have more then one directory, they can run side by side without a problem
[03:53] <joni_> and when i transfer files from the cdrom to he hard drive, the computer gets really slow
[03:53] <capi> HrdwrBoB, what is  tjere?
[03:54] <Eighth> i don't know what configuration i need to do to apache... i'm very new to this sort of thing
[03:54] <cary> what is the default password, say, if i locked my screen?
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> cary: your password
[03:54] <cary> like my default sys pw? cool.
[03:55] <ivoks> Eighth first deinstall apache1
[03:55] <capi> Eighth, check out the Apache manual... manuals are your friend. :), what are you trying to do, can you see local host?
[03:55] <ivoks> Eighth and run only one apache, apache2
[03:55] <Eighth> i can connect to the server fine from the same box
[03:55] <joni_> Why would my computer run extremely slow if i was copying files from the CD?
[03:56] <bob2> capi: installing it and answering debconf questions is a good start
[03:56] <ivoks> Eighth ? you just said you can't telnet to port 80 on your machine
[03:56] <bob2> Eighth: remove apache1
[03:56] <joni_> plus the file transfer is going slow
[03:56] <FR500> joni_, try enabling dma for your cd-rom drive
[03:56] <FR500> for the second part
[03:56] <ivoks> joni_ you need DMA
[03:56] <Eighth> if i go to http://meznak.homelinux.net/gallery/albums.php from my machine, i have no problems
[03:56] <bob2> bear in mind linux disabled dms for a reason
[03:56] <joni_> Right, but I can't do that in the first place, it says the operation is not permitted
[03:56] <Eighth> if i try from a machine off my network, it times out
[03:56] <bob2> er, dma
[03:56] <ivoks> joni_ hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[03:57] <ivoks> joni_ hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[03:57] <ivoks> joni_ or whatever your CD/hard disk are
[03:57] <bob2> Eighth: so, somsone is running a misconfigured riewall
[03:57] <FR500> bob2, but without dma my dvd playback is crap
[03:57] <bob2> ok
[03:57] <FR500> bob2, is there a way to mount an iso image in linux?
[03:57] <xMaximex> how do i get mozilla to use "windows style" fonts ?
[03:57] <ivoks> bob2 linux disables DMA cause of few crapy hardware
[03:58] <joni_> my cdroms are located at /dev/hda /dev/hdb
[03:58] <bob2> ivoks: yes, I know
[03:58] <ivoks> bob2 notably, some VIA chipset, IIRC
[03:58] <bob2> xMaximex: you need to explain what you mean, then maybe somone can answer
[03:58] <joni_> /dev/hda:
[03:58] <joni_>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[03:58] <joni_>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[03:58] <joni_>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[03:58] <Gskillet> how do i empty the trash as root?
[03:58] <joni_> That is what happens :(
[03:58] <ivoks> joni_ then sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> joni_: use sudo
[03:58] <bob2> xMaximex: if you mean "How can I get firefox to use windows fonts", then just put some windows fonts in ~/.fonts/
[03:58] <joni_> I am using sudo
[03:58] <Eighth> my firewall is set to allow all TCP traffic on port 80 from WAN,* to LAN,mybox
[03:59] <bob2> haha firewall
[03:59] <bob2> aparently not
[03:59] <joni_> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[03:59] <joni_> that is what i type in
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> Eighth: you need to allow traffic FROM port 80
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> to lan,mybox
[03:59] <bob2> Eighth: disable it completely and watch it work
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> a decent packet filter is nontrivial
[03:59] <ivoks> joni_ maybe you aren't using right driver for your IDE chipset
[04:00] <joni_> If it matters, I think the computer is SCSI
[04:00] <xMaximex> bob2, i don't know how to explain it .. i dont speak english
[04:00] <ivoks> joni_ /dev/hda isn't SCSI
[04:00] <bob2> xMaximex: what language do you speak?
[04:00] <xMaximex> bob2: french
[04:00] <bob2> xMaximex: #ubuntu-fr
[04:00] <joni_> The hard drives are SCSI then
[04:01] <Gskillet> Question: How do I empty the trash as root?
[04:01] <ivoks> joni_ maybe they are, but your CDROM is IDE....
[04:01] <joni_> ya, they are
[04:01] <joni_> so, anything else i could try
[04:01] <bob2> Gskillet: why do you have files in there owned by root?
[04:01] <spiderworm> hi all, so rhythmbox will let me see the id3 tag information but will not let me edit it?  it looks like it's in text boxes and i should be able to edit it.
[04:01] <bob2> spiderworm: you can't, sorry
[04:02] <Eighth> added an outgoing :80 rule and nothing changed
[04:02] <Gskillet> bob2: because i deleted files that were owned by root
[04:02] <spiderworm> oh.  is there another app i can edit it in you would recommend bob2
[04:02] <joni_> How can I troubleshoot my soundcard?
[04:02] <bob2> Eighth: disable it.  does it work?
[04:02] <bob2> if so, your firewall is broken
[04:02] <ivoks> joni_ i'm sure you aren't using proper drivers for your IDE chipset
[04:02] <bob2> spiderworm: I hear easytag is good
[04:02] <joni_> I'm using the default ivoks
[04:02] <vinux> joni_, on my system /dev/hda is first hard drive then /dev/hdb is second hard drive. then /dev/hdc is first dvd rom and /dev/hdd is second dvd drive
[04:03] <joni_> vinux: you have an ide only system
[04:03] <joni_> i have an IDE/SCSI setup
[04:03] <vinux> joni_, oh ok
[04:03] <joni_> Its a gateway 550GR
[04:03] <psyc> hi, after i installed ubuntu, when i try to go to windows, im getting "Windows root\system32\ha1.dll is corrupted ..." does anyone know anything about it ?
[04:03] <anto9us> Gskillet: navigate to the .Trash directory and delete from there
[04:03] <bob2> sounds like windows is screwed in an unrelated way
[04:03] <spiderworm> psyc, yeah, i did it
[04:03] <Eighth> bob2: disable the rules or the entire firewall?
[04:04] <bob2> Eighth: the entire firewall
[04:04] <spiderworm> i wasnt gonna fess up, but with you begging like that...
[04:04] <joni_> How can I find out what type of soundcard i am using?
[04:04] <cary> oh hey general question. i have a usb mouse that gives me right clicking just fine, but the traditional mac "ctrl click" gives me nothing. is there any sort of key/click combo that will let me right click without the usb mouse?
[04:04] <Eighth> bob2: easier said than done, it's built into my router
[04:05] <ivoks> joni_ lspci
[04:05] <vinux> psyc, hmm you did back up your windows files right? :)
[04:05] <bob2> Eighth: your router will have no effect on machines on your network accessing other machines
[04:05] <HrdwrBoB> Eighth: you can just disable it
[04:05] <bob2> cary: f11/f12
[04:05] <Eighth> how do i disable it?
[04:05] <cary> bob2: oooo..thanks
[04:05] <joni_> got it ivoks, it says i have a Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
[04:05] <joni_> Which isn't working
[04:05] <psyc> vinux, i didnt do anything with my windows partition
[04:05] <ivoks> joni_ i'm sure it is
[04:05] <psyc> and i dont make backups
[04:05] <psyc> hehe
[04:05] <luminerd> Wacom users here?  I REALLY Need help!  This has gone on SOOO long and right now I just wanna get this fixed once and for all!  Please say someone is here to help me! please!
[04:06] <ivoks> joni_ does play /usr/share/sounds/error.wav
[04:06] <psyc> spiderworm, what did you do ?
[04:06] <makaveli0129> how do i do a rescue install with hoary?
[04:06] <ivoks> joni_ does it prints any error or just isn't playing?
[04:06] <vinux> psyc, hmmm well I really don't know about that. I've never seen any error like that. But try to google that error msg to see what happens
[04:06] <bob2> luminerd: please just ask your question instead doing that
[04:07] <Gskillet> What's a good command to delete a directory (with contents)?
[04:07] <luminerd> bob2, my question is "any wacom users here?"
[04:07] <ivoks> Gskillet rm -rf
[04:07] <Gskillet> thx
[04:07] <ivoks> be careful
[04:07] <ivoks> :)
[04:07] <psyc> vinux, thanks
[04:08] <Gskillet> if there's one thing about linuxer's its that they are uber careful
[04:08] <bob2> luminerd: presumably you plan to ask them something
[04:08] <bob2> if so, just ask now
[04:08] <bob2> it's so amazingly silly to beg for users of $blah before asking a question
[04:08] <kangpeh> anyone know how to set kdm as a default login manager
[04:08] <kangpeh> rather than gdm
[04:08] <joni_> Sry, i got kicked off
[04:08] <bob2> install kdm.  enjoy!
[04:09] <joni_> Ok, back to troubleshooting
[04:09] <luminerd> Ok, here's the deal...I've been messing with my WACOM tablet now for about 3 weeks.  I have yet to get it to work.  I run slackware 10.1 but seek help from other channels, because the process should be similar.  If anyone here is willing to spend some time helping me get this working, I would HIGHLY appreciate it.  I am having troubles every 5 seconds it seems!  Firstly I can't even get it to compile against my kernel.  I could reall
[04:09] <luminerd> y use some help!  If anyone can be a coach, I would really appreciate it!
[04:09] <bob2> oh lord
[04:09] <RuffianSoldier> bob2 can you give me that link to the working wifi adapters?
[04:09] <bob2> #slackware
[04:09] <bob2> RuffianSoldier: I don't know what you mean
[04:09] <nomasteryoda|w> luminerd, did you ask over on slackware? those guys should help
[04:10] <RuffianSoldier> :-P
[04:10] <luminerd> bob2, I have been there and across freenode: no one has been able to help, the process is the same, we are all linux users.  please can I get some help?
[04:10] <ivoks> lol, what do you expect from distro that is runed by single man?
[04:10] <luminerd> nomasteryoda|w, see above
[04:10] <bob2> luminerd: no, it's not "the same"
[04:10] <ivoks> that everything will work? :)
[04:10] <joni_> I found out that I have an Intel High Definition (HD) Audio integrated sound card
[04:10] <joni_> Intel 915G Express Chipset
[04:10] <joni_> that is my chipset
[04:10] <bob2> and I'm sorry your distro of choice doesn't have a useful community
[04:10] <ivoks> joni_ does play /usr/share/sounds/error.wav plays anything or outputs error?
[04:10] <RuffianSoldier> I know the MA11V1 works with Ubuntu - but is it possible to get teh V2 working?
[04:10] <joni_> It says it can't open for resource
[04:10] <luminerd> ivoks, A) it's not run by a single man, B) didn't come here to start a distro war C) it's meant to teach you about linux, not have everything just work. that's its purpose
[04:11] <scotth_home> I'm having polypaudio problems.  I can't get gstreamer to play through polypaudio
[04:11] <cary> bob2: here i go, i think. about to commit to this mess. any suggestions to heed as i go?
[04:11] <scotth_home> anyone have an idea as to why?
[04:11] <joni_> ivoks: thanks for helping btw
[04:11] <bob2> cary: read carefully :)
[04:11] <ivoks> joni_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HdaIntelSoundHowto
[04:11] <cary> bob2: should i be nervous that i dont knwo a whole lot about command line stuff and general linux...stuff?
[04:12] <Eighth> aha!
[04:12] <ivoks> joni_ i would recommend souution from universe
[04:12] <bob2> cary: worst comes to worst, you reboot into mac os x
[04:12] <bob2> you should be fine, tho
[04:12] <scotth_home> not even gxine can play through polypaudio
[04:12] <joni_> ivoks: what solution is that?
[04:13] <Eighth> bob2: i had put localhost and my domain into httpd.conf, but not my local IP, which is what my router was referring to
[04:13] <ivoks> joni_ go to that page, you will see it
[04:13] <cary> wish me luck, whoever.
[04:13] <vinux> I just installed the pkg fortune but I need to know how to get it to display a fortune on login. Any ideas? I tried #man fortune and it didn't work
[04:14] <makaveli0129> i need some help i installed ubuntu hoary and then when i went to install windows i had to abort and windows had already marked the partition unactive how would remark the partition active? I am in the rescue console right now
[04:14] <ivoks> i'll be back
[04:16] <microhaxo> guys i need help
[04:16] <microhaxo> i have azureus and i need to know how to get it running
[04:16] <vinux> Ok wait i'm sorry #man fortune did work. But it doesn't mention that I see to set it up on login. What file would I use to put it in bash. I think that would do it
[04:17] <bob_> microhaxo, just ./azureus where ever you installed it
[04:18] <makaveli0129> anyone know how to mark my partition for ubuntu "active"
[04:18] <RuffianSoldier> the WA111v1 USB Wifi adapter works with Ubuntu - I have the V2 - what are the chances of getting it to work?
[04:18] <scotth_home> anyone at all familiar with polypaudio and why it won't output anything even though when I use gxine and tell it to use oss it works perfectly?
[04:18] <FR500> microhaxo, what do you need exactly?
[04:19] <joni_> ivoks: is there anything after this that I have to do to get it working
[04:19] <ivoks> joni_: did you do it all?
[04:19] <joni_> i did it all
[04:19] <joni_> is there anything i have to do after it?
[04:19] <ivoks> joni_: you installed .deb package?
[04:20] <ivoks> joni_: now do sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[04:20] <joni_> Do i have to change the multimedia system selector?
[04:20] <ivoks> joni_: wait, let's make it work first...
[04:21] <bob2> RuffianSoldier: is it too late to return it?
[04:21] <ivoks> joni_: did you restart hotplug?
[04:21] <joni_> not yet
[04:21] <ivoks> joni_: restart hotplug
[04:21] <RuffianSoldier> yes bob2 i ordered it online - it didtn say if it was V1 or 2 i just assumed :(
[04:22] <joni_> ok
[04:22] <makaveli0129> ?
[04:22] <ivoks> joni_: now with dmesg check to see if it mentions your sound card anywhere
[04:23] <joni_> o
[04:23] <joni_> k
[04:23] <makaveli0129> does anyone know how to make my linux partition active?
[04:23] <ivoks> makaveli0129: it's inactive?
[04:24] <makaveli0129> ivoks: yes i went to go install  windows and then had to abort and now it is marked inactive and it won't boot
[04:24] <makaveli0129> windows isn't installed yet though
[04:24] <ivoks> makaveli0129: ?
[04:25] <nalioth> ivoks: didnt you infer from "inactive partition" that it involved windoze?
[04:25] <cody> Hello
[04:25] <ivoks> makaveli0129: when you start your computer, it goes directly to windows or?
[04:25] <makaveli0129> ivoks: it says no operating system present
[04:25] <Code_> oh
[04:25] <jkezar> new to ubuntu, familiar with redhat.  I am not knowlegable with X configuration.  Is there a helper app that can probe my hardware for ubunto so I dont have to mess with xorg.conf manually
[04:25] <makaveli0129> due to the fact ubuntu is marked inactive
[04:25] <ivoks> nalioth: ?
[04:25] <joni_> ivoks: problem
[04:26] <scotth_home> anyone want to tell me why polypaudio can't find its modules, except they are there in the /usr/lib/polypaudio-0.7 directory
[04:26] <ivoks> makaveli0129: this is seriuos problem... are you any good with linux?
[04:26] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i'm a little new
[04:26] <ivoks> joni_: yes?
[04:26] <quio> hello every one!! I've just upgraded my ubuntu breezy dist and now the X can't start.... I get this errror :   "glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop)" Somebody could help me?
[04:26] <w6649> Hello
[04:26] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i am in the rescue shell for ubuntu tho
[04:26] <jkezar> how do I tell which resolution and depth a current X session is currently using?
[04:26] <ivoks> makaveli0129: good
[04:26] <paulproteus> jkezar: Are you running X?
[04:26] <joni_> FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-2.6.10-5-686': No such file or directory
[04:27] <paulproteus> On a terminal, you can type:
[04:27] <paulproteus> xdpyinfo
[04:27] <makaveli0129> ivoks: so what do i do now?
[04:27] <ivoks> makaveli0129: do you remember what partition it was with ubuntu?
[04:27] <w6649> I just recieved Ubuntu today in the mail, I was wondering how to set it up so I could use dialup internet.
[04:27] <ivoks> joni_: are you running your custom kernel?
[04:27] <paulproteus> w6649: Have you installed it yet?
[04:27] <w6649> I am using the edition where I run it off of the CD-Rom
[04:27] <jkezar> paulproteus: yes, an ugly X.  I know my hardware can do better
[04:27] <paulproteus> w6649: Ah, I see.
[04:27] <makaveli0129> ivoks: yes i do it is already mounted and now am at the prompt that says sh-3.00#
[04:27] <paulproteus> jkezar: Okay. :)
[04:27] <chombee> Seveas - thanks for all your help, we now have a working server install on the uninstallable machine. Nifty trick really.
[04:27] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you chrooted to it?
[04:28] <joni_> No, I'm running default
[04:28] <joni_> I think i need to install the 686 kernel
[04:28] <makaveli0129> ivoks: not yet but when i go to ls it lists all of my files
[04:28] <ivoks> joni_: i think that too :) you have pentium, right?
[04:28] <joni_> Pentium 4 3.2ghz Hyper threading
[04:28] <ivoks> makaveli0129: ok, good, where did you mount it?
[04:28] <paulproteus> w6649: What modem do you have?
[04:28] <ivoks> joni_: then install -686 kernel
[04:28] <quio> When gdm starts, the log shows this : glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop)
[04:28] <joni_> linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 ?
[04:28] <w6649> let me check
[04:28] <makaveli0129> ivoks: it did it automatically
[04:28] <joni_> is it ok to remove the -386?
[04:29] <chombee> Anyone know how I can configure the network interfaces from the command line? I skipped that step in the install, and now we can't apt-get anything b/c we can't reach the repositories. Need to run the network config that the install runs
[04:29] <paulproteus> w6649: Have you used it in Linux before?  Some modems have a lot of trouble in Linux because the manufacturers don't give specifications to Linux developers.
[04:29] <ivoks> makaveli0129: run mount
[04:29] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i just selected the root partition and that it
[04:29] <ivoks> makaveli0129: without switches
[04:29] <ivoks> makaveli0129: it will tell you where it is mounted
[04:30] <w6649> Intel 537EP V9x DF PCI
[04:30] <ivoks> joni_: you should also install libc6-i686
[04:30] <joni_> ok, then i can remove -386?
[04:30] <w6649> should I have drivers on a floppy disk?
[04:30] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i did mount /dev/hdc1 which is root partition and it says line 9 in /etc/fstab is bad /dev/hdc1 already mounted or / busy
[04:30] <ivoks> joni_: yes
[04:30] <makaveli0129> ivoks: it also says it is mounted on /
[04:30] <ivoks> makaveli0129: ah, great
[04:30] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you had lilo or grub?
[04:31] <makaveli0129> i had grub installed to my root partition
[04:31] <paulproteus> w6649: Let me Google your modem.
[04:31] <ivoks> makaveli0129: then you should do grub-install
[04:31] <RuffianSoldier> I have an XP PC that gets its 'net from wifi - i want to use my ethernet slot as a router so I can get net on the Ubuntu PC thats next to it - how can I go about doing this?
[04:31] <w6649> ok
[04:31] <ivoks> makaveli0129: grub-install /dev/hda
[04:31] <ivoks> makaveli0129: grub-install /dev/hdc
[04:32] <chombee> Hello - anyone know what the network config tool that runs during Ubuntu install is? Is it possible to run that step afer an install, if it was skipped?
[04:32] <makaveli0129> ivoks: would that install it to my root partition and not my mbr?
[04:32] <ivoks> makaveli0129: no, it would install it to mbr
[04:32] <makaveli0129> ivoks: grub needs to be installed on /dev/hdc1
[04:32] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you can't boot from partition
[04:33] <w6649> http://www.intel.com/design/modems/products/537ep.htm If that helps
[04:33] <ivoks> makaveli0129: isn't hdc1 your windows partition?
[04:33] <joni_> Its warning me that removing the kernel image is dangerous...
[04:33] <ivoks> joni_: bla, bla, bla...
[04:33] <paulproteus> w6649: That should help some, thanks.
[04:33] <makaveli0129> ivoks: no /dev/hdc1 is linux and /dev/hdc2 is windows
[04:33] <ivoks> joni_: you know what you are doing, right? :)
[04:33] <ivoks> makaveli0129: that's why windows didn't install :)
[04:33] <joni_> I've never installed a new kernel image
[04:33] <ivoks> makaveli0129: look, you can boot system from partition
[04:33] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i need to install it to the root partition so that i can use windows bootloader to boot grub
[04:33] <Thorrn4> hello!! Konqueror gives me a weird error....I cannot open data DVDs or CDs (kio (KDirWatch): WARNING: KDirWatch::removeDir can't handle '/dev')
[04:34] <ivoks> makaveli0129: s/can/can't/
[04:34] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you are using windows bootloader for booting linux?
[04:34] <w6649> Will I need linux drivers?
[04:34] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i cancelled windows installation intentially because i need to use the dd command
[04:34] <RuffianSoldier> I have an XP PC that gets its 'net from wifi - i want to use my ethernet slot as a router so I can get net on the Ubuntu PC thats next to it - how can I go about doing this?
[04:35] <makaveli0129> and i forgot to
[04:35] <paulproteus> w6649: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto might be relevant, but I have to go, sorry.
[04:35] <jkezar> why does it keep using 640x480
[04:35] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you are using windows bootloader for booting linux?
[04:35] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i have to go back and do that that e-mail myself the file created from the dd command in order to use windows to boot linux
[04:36] <makaveli0129> ivoks: not yet but i will be
[04:36] <w6649> TY
[04:36] <ivoks> makaveli0129: why?
[04:36] <spiderworm> hey all, i discovered that when i hold my mouse over mp3 icons it starts to play the mp3, pretty cool, but it doesnt do it with my ogg files, is there somewhere to customize that behavior?
[04:36] <joni_> ok, ivoks i got it installed
[04:36] <joni_> and the deb file
[04:36] <ivoks> joni_: great, now reboot to your new kernel
[04:36] <makaveli0129> ivoks: becuase there are certain features for booting into windows that i like and that i need when something goes wrong with windows using grub it is hard to enter the boot options and much more complicated that way so i use ntldr
[04:37] <ivoks> makaveli0129: ?
[04:37] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you never hit F8 while Windows were booting?
[04:37] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you get same menu
[04:37] <makaveli0129> ivoks: all you have to do is run the command dd if=/dev/hdc1 of="bootsect.lnx" bs =512 count=1
[04:37] <ivoks> makaveli0129: i know, but as you see, things can get wrong
[04:38] <ivoks> makaveli0129: there is nothing you can doo now in linux
[04:38] <ivoks> makaveli0129: making partition active will not solve your problem
[04:38] <makaveli0129> ivoks: i forgot to do the dd command and there is no way to do that and get it to my windows partition unless i e-mail it to myself
[04:38] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you have to install windows so it writtes to mbr
[04:38] <ivoks> makaveli0129: just install windows man
[04:39] <ivoks> makaveli0129: makaveli0129 there is nothing you can do with linux now if you want to use window bootloader
[04:39] <joni_> ivoks, ok when i restarted hotplug and now my mouse isn't working
[04:39] <ivoks> makaveli0129: after you install windows, boot to linux with rescue
[04:39] <tchmnky> <-- never thought I'd hear the words "just install windows man" uttered here in #ubuntu. o_O
[04:39] <makaveli0129> ivoks: so then how would i create the bootsect.lnx and get into windows
[04:39] <ivoks> joni_: reboot!!!!
[04:39] <joni_> ok
[04:40] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you insert your ubuntu CD, boot from CD, and hit enter
[04:40] <tiglionabbit> what are you guys advising here?
[04:40] <eruin> is there a way to make a movie off xscreensaver output?
[04:40] <Xenguy> gw/z
[04:40] <microhaxo> guys i installed Azureus and it dont like my Amd64 JAVA, so how do i fix it to work?
[04:40] <Xenguy> sorry
[04:40] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you go with installation till the partition thing
[04:40] <tchmnky> eruin, short of an external video crapture, I don't know. :-/
[04:40] <eruin> :/
[04:40] <tchmnky> Not built in to xscreensvaer, anyway.
[04:40] <ivoks> makaveli0129: and then switch to console 2, chroot to your linux partition
[04:40] <tchmnky> capture* not crapture.
[04:40] <eruin> I'll have to try Istanbul then
[04:40] <ivoks> makaveli0129: and get everything you need
[04:41] <eruin> http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
[04:41] <eruin> looks promising ;)
[04:41] <makaveli0129> ivoks: ok i'm back into linux but if i was to use the dd command while grub is installed on the mbr would it still work the same?
[04:41] <ivoks> makaveli0129: making partition active does not mean making it bootable
[04:41] <paulproteus> eruin: Not Constantinople?
[04:41] <eruin> ;)
[04:41] <tchmnky> eruin, Looks great. I am hereby proved wrong. ;)
[04:41] <ivoks> makaveli0129: i don't know, i allways use grub/lilo in MBR
[04:42] <ivoks> makaveli0129: then, if i have problems with windows, i press f8 while windows are booting
[04:42] <cromwell> I'm trying to set up my box so i can dial into it and access my cable internet...right now i think i need ppp0 active, but as soon as i try to activate it, it starts dialing a number
[04:42] <ivoks> makaveli0129: you get same menu (even more things) as with windows bootloader
[04:42] <cromwell> any ideas?
[04:43] <tiglionabbit> cromwell, what are you trying to do?
[04:43] <makaveli0129> ivoks: ok thank you for your help
[04:44] <TokenBad> whats command to see free space on drives again in nix?
[04:44] <ivoks> df -h
[04:44] <tchmnky> TokenBad, df -h
[04:44] <eruin> tchmnky, well, hopefully proven wrong, atleast ;-)
[04:44] <ivoks> thats from diskfree -humanreadable
[04:44] <ivoks> as is rm -rf
[04:44] <ivoks> readmail -readfast
[04:44] <tchmnky> heh
[04:44] <tchmnky> No. Not quite. :P
[04:44] <cromwell> tiglionabbit: sorry if im not very clear, i just started using Linux/Ubuntu today.  im trying to set up mgetty so i can dial into my computer here from outside to access my cable internet
[04:45] <joni_> ivoks! thank you so much
[04:45] <ivoks> joni_: works?
[04:45] <joni_> yep
[04:45] <joni_> perfectly
[04:45] <TokenBad> thanks tchmnky
[04:45] <ivoks> great...
[04:45] <tiglionabbit> cromwell: dial in?  Do you mean ssh or remote desktop?
[04:45] <ivoks> no, he means dial in
[04:45] <tiglionabbit> what does that mean?
[04:45] <ivoks> cromwell: with ISDN maybe?
[04:46] <paulproteus> tiglionabbit: He uses a modem to connect to the Internet.
[04:46] <yonil> how can i find out the locations of all the files installed by a package ?
[04:46] <cromwell> sorry
[04:46] <ivoks> yonil: dpkg -L <packagename>
[04:46] <tiglionabbit> wow, I have no idea what you guys mean by that..
[04:46] <yonil> ivoks, thanks
[04:46] <cromwell> im on cable internet right now...but i also have a modem
[04:46] <ivoks> cromwell: plain 56k modem?
[04:46] <cromwell> yes
[04:46] <ivoks> cromwell: or ISDN?
[04:46] <cromwell> 56k
[04:46] <ivoks> ok.. simple modem
[04:47] <ivoks> in other words... pice of sssit
[04:47] <cromwell> i wanna be able to share my cable internet
[04:47] <cromwell> by dialing into this computer
[04:47] <ivoks> cromwell: hm...?
[04:47] <ivoks> cromwell: isn't that expensive?
[04:48] <cromwell> ...no the idea is to get internet access without paying for a second provider
[04:48] <tiglionabbit> if I were cromwell, I would just use it through ssh
[04:48] <ivoks> cromwell: cromwell but you are paying phone bill, right?
[04:48] <cromwell> local call
[04:48] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: ?
[04:48] <tiglionabbit> just log in remotely and use it
[04:48] <ivoks> cromwell: ok, in my conuntry internet is cheaper than local call :)
[04:49] <islander> how do i install fvwm
[04:49] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: you don't understand :)
[04:49] <cromwell> so anyway...the problem is i dont know how to get ubuntu to sit here and listen for incoming modem calls
[04:49] <tiglionabbit> I know I don't understand, but I don't see what's different about this
[04:50] <ivoks> cromwell: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO-12.html
[04:51] <ivoks> cromwell: If you expect that people will be able to dial-in to you at 56k, it can't be done unless you have all the following
[04:51] <ivoks> cromwell: doesn't look good
[04:51] <cromwell> speed isnt all that important
[04:51] <ivoks> cromwell: ok :) then check out that HOWTO
[04:52] <cromwell> thanks ill look at it now
[04:55] <chombee> When installing Ubuntu it detects and configures network interfaces, is there way to re-run this automatic step on an installed copy, or do I need to configure them manually?
[04:55] <ivoks> chombee: you can't rerun instalation script, AFAIK
[04:55] <tiglionabbit> how is dialing in different from ssh?
[04:55] <ivoks> chombee: but manually isn't too hard
[04:55] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: lol
[04:55] <joni_> ivoks: how can i change the default mixer to alsa?
[04:55] <cromwell> ok i looked through it a bit, and ive already installed mgetty from the package manager
[04:55] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: ssh is application protocol
[04:56] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: and dialing is physical connection
[04:56] <chombee> ivoks - do you know anything about how to configure a wireless card? It's a plugin linksys one, I don't even think the device is detected
[04:56] <joni_> chombee: what model number?
[04:56] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: you can't have ssh without dialing, for example
[04:56] <tiglionabbit> ivoks: but what is the difference?
[04:56] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: i just told you
[04:56] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: it's like asking what's the difference beetween car and road
[04:56] <chombee> joni_ WPC54G
[04:57] <tiglionabbit> I don't quite understand.  Oh, is dialing in for people who don't have a normal internet connection?
[04:57] <joni_> ah
[04:57] <chombee> joni_ Linksys Wireless-G notebook adapter
[04:57] <ivoks> joni_: ?
[04:57] <capi> whats the command to send mail with postfix?
[04:57] <joni_> my next step is to get the ati drivers and then get my Linksys WUSB11 to work
[04:57] <cody> Hello
[04:57] <cody> I have a problem
[04:57] <eruin> curses
[04:57] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: do you have ADSL?
[04:57] <tiglionabbit> ivoks: cable
[04:57] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: how old are you? :)
[04:58] <joni_> my Volume control in my notification area defaults to the oss mixer, how can i make it control the ALSA
[04:58] <cody> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.
[04:58] <tiglionabbit> 19 as of today
[04:58] <cody> like I'll be typing, it will stop for a second, and then catch up with me.
[04:58] <joni_> because thats what my INTEL HDA is on
[04:58] <cody> /n/nick Cody_
[04:58] <cromwell> ok i checked my mgetty log and it seems to have a problem starting up...it says the modem isnt turned on
[04:58] <joni_> the oss doesn't change the volume at all
[04:58] <ivoks> joni_: oss?
[04:58] <HostingGeek> Hellow
[04:58] <joni_> OSS
[04:58] <joni_> ya...
[04:58] <joni_> there is an OSS mixer and an ALSA mixer
[04:59] <joni_> only the alsa controls the sound
[04:59] <ivoks> joni_: change multimedia selector to ALSA
[04:59] <chombee> I've been looking at ifupdown, ifconfig, iwconfig etc but can't get started, the problem seems to be that there is no device eth0 or anything
[04:59] <Cody_> Any ideas?
[04:59] <joni_> ivoks, for the source or sink?
[04:59] <ivoks> joni_: ALSA emulates OSS, so basicly, ALSA is controling sound card
[04:59] <ivoks> joni_: both
[04:59] <joni_> it doesn't work when i have it set to sink
[04:59] <bob2> chombee: that means you don't have the module for your card loaded
[04:59] <joni_> on the sink...
[04:59] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: couple of years ago people used modems to connect to internet
[04:59] <tiglionabbit> chombee: try running system->admin->Network Administration.  It's a cruddy utility, but it should set things up
[05:00] <ivoks> joni_: choose ALSA from drop down menu
[05:00] <chombee> bob2 - yeah! that sounds right... now what module and how to load it
[05:00] <joni_> Failed to contruct test pipeline for ALSA...
[05:00] <the_dead> hey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working
[05:00] <tiglionabbit> ivoks: oh, heh back when ethernet wasn't a 'normal internet connection'.  sorry =P
[05:00] <joni_> but ESD works
[05:00] <chombee> tiglionabbit - I'm stuck at the command line and can't install gnome b/c i have no networl
[05:00] <ivoks> tiglionabbit: ethernet isn't "normal connection" even today
[05:00] <Cody_> I have another problem...   It didn't detect it at startup?
[05:00] <tiglionabbit> I mean at install
[05:01] <ivoks> chombee: open /etc/network/interfaces
[05:01] <joni_> Default Sink: ESD, Default Source: ALSA
[05:01] <joni_> That is what its on right now
[05:01] <bob2> chombee: what chipset?
[05:01] <bob2> chombee: gnome is on the CD
[05:01] <tiglionabbit> ivoks: I couldn't imagine living without it
[05:01] <ivoks> joni_: put ALSA for both
[05:01] <HostingGeek> Where is the old human already????
[05:01] <bob2> HostingGeek: please
[05:01] <ivoks> joni_: or ESD, for now..
[05:01] <joni_> that doesn't work
[05:01] <ivoks> joni_: put esd for now...
[05:01] <joni_> ok...
[05:02] <cromwell> ok i think i may see the problem here with my modem.  when i goto System -> Admin -> Networking it says my ppp0 interface is not active
[05:02] <joni_> both sources work, oss and alsa
[05:02] <Cody_> I have another problem... I am trying to compile and install a program, but it says "invalid configuration 'i686-pc-linux'"
[05:02] <HostingGeek> bob2: mako told me it will be back with the new release of clearlook (or maybe I was dreaming)
[05:02] <chombee> tiglionabbit - that step of the install was skipped, on booting the laptop afterwards it doesn't appear to have detected or configured anything
[05:02] <cromwell> but when i activate it it starts trying to dial out right away
[05:02] <joni_> but the OSS Mixer doesn't change the volume, only my ALSA mixer does
[05:02] <cromwell> i just want to listen for calls
[05:02] <the_dead> hey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working
[05:02] <chombee> bob2 - I have no access to the CD either
[05:02] <bob2> Cody_: don't use breezy
[05:02] <ivoks> joni_: i don't know how HD manages sound...
[05:03] <ivoks> joni_: but on normal AC97 you have couple of mixers
[05:03] <chombee> ivoks - okay, there's nothing in it except the loopback, and a hotplug grep eth0 thing
[05:03] <Cody_> bob2: Breezy?
[05:03] <ivoks> joni_: one for aux, one for video, one for CD, one for speeker, etc...
[05:03] <ivoks> chombee: great
[05:03] <ivoks> chombee: now you have to fill in gaps :)
[05:04] <ivoks> chombee: do you have DHCP on your network?
[05:04] <chombee> ivoks - okay, great - how do I say wireless card DHCP? Do you know of some examples somewhere?
[05:04] <joni_> right, but I'm talking about the OSS and ALSA, the one in my volume mixer is the one that shows up on my panel and thats the wrong one
[05:04] <tiglionabbit> chombee: if it didn't install properly, personally I'd just burn another CD and try again.  But I'm sure there are configuration settings, let me look through the wikis
[05:04] <joni_> fixed it lol
[05:04] <chombee> ivoks - the wireless works by DHCP, AFAIK
[05:04] <joni_> i had to right click>preferences on the applet
[05:04] <tiglionabbit> joni_: how'd you fix it?
[05:04] <joni_> thanks for everything ivoks
[05:04] <tiglionabbit> oh
[05:04] <chombee> tiglionabbit - the laptop has no cdrom, we had to do a brain transplant
[05:04] <tiglionabbit> wow
[05:04] <the_dead> hey guys, i have a question about my seona 2511.  when I used knoppix it read it and made it wlan0 properly, but even with hostap drivers installed i cand figure out how to get it working
[05:04] <ivoks> chombee: nice, does your wifi works?
[05:05] <microhaxo> IM trying to configure azureus and i need to point to my old JAVA client, WHY does it say this is WRONG JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR="/usr/java/j2re1.4.2/bin"    # use full path to java bin dir, ex.
[05:05] <microhaxo>  BTW im runnin kubuntu amd64
[05:05] <chombee> ivoks - another Ubuntu laptop in here works fine with an internal wireless card by DHCP
[05:05] <ivoks> chombee: but, does your wifi works? :)
[05:05] <chombee> ivoks - this laptop has a different wireless card, external one, and it's not configged
[05:05] <ivoks> chombee: run iwconfig
[05:06] <chombee> ivoks - oh, there's nothing there - no wireless extensions
[05:06] <ivoks> chombee: it will show you what's your wireless interface
[05:06] <ivoks> chombee: then you have a problem
[05:06] <chombee> ivoks - yeah, it ain't configured.
[05:06] <ivoks> chombee: this isn't about configuration
[05:07] <ivoks> chombee: your system doesn't know you have wifi card at all
[05:07] <ivoks> chombee: check lspci
[05:07] <chombee> ivoks - I installed Ubuntu on one laptop via cdrom, then removed the harddrive, put it in this laptop, it was the only way to install
[05:07] <tiefox> anyone has been able to compile the latest mysql-query-browser in ubuntu ?
[05:07] <ivoks> chombee: it will show you what's your wifi card
[05:07] <ivoks> chombee: lspci | grep Network
[05:07] <Cody_> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.
[05:08] <ivoks> chombee: that's faulty procedure
[05:08] <capi> How do I include a header with the sendmail command?
[05:08] <ivoks> chombee: installation detects hardware and installas support for your hardware
[05:08] <tiglionabbit> chombee: ubuntu detects a lot of your hardware.  That will really mess you up
[05:08] <capi> header/subject
[05:08] <chombee> ivoks - Okay, it's there, Broadcom 802.11/g Wireless LAN controller
[05:08] <zyth> oh
[05:08] <ivoks> chombee: i'm sorry
[05:08] <tiglionabbit> chombee: do you even have a disk drive?
[05:08] <zyth> you need ndiswrapper
[05:08] <chombee> ivoks, tiglionabbit - I was hoping hotplug would take care of it, anyway there was no other way
[05:09] <ivoks> chombee: some of broadcoms work with ndiswrapper, some not...
[05:09] <tiglionabbit> chombee: what peripheral drives does your machine have?
[05:09] <chombee> tiglionabbit - that was the problem, this laptop I'm trying to fix has no cdrom
[05:09] <ivoks> chombee: in the end, you need Internet to set it up
[05:09] <zyth> chombee, got a USB flash drive?
[05:09] <chombee> tiglionabbit - it has a floppy drive
[05:09] <ivoks> :)
[05:09] <chombee> ivoks - yeah, I know, once I can apt-get from the servers I'm going. Probably
[05:09] <chombee> zyth - no
[05:10] <chombee> zyth - well, I don't think so. Why?
[05:10] <ivoks> chombee: you don't have simple ethernet?
[05:10] <chombee> ivoks - no, it's broken.
[05:10] <ivoks> chombee: you need to download couple of things
[05:10] <chombee> ivoks - crap
[05:10] <Cody_> Can anyone explain this momentary X freeze?
[05:10] <ivoks> chombee: like... windows drivers for broadcom
[05:10] <cary> well...tiger..here i am.
[05:11] <ivoks> Cody_: :)
[05:11] <Cody_> ivoks: Not use Breezy?
[05:11] <ivoks> Cody_: that's because of your harddrive
[05:11] <Cody_> really?
[05:11] <_douglas> Is ther a debian/ubuntu/kubuntu package mirror for the latest nvidia drivers?
[05:11] <chombee> ivoks - there will be no way to get them onto the laptop in question, except maybe via floppies or if someone has a USB drive, but I wouldn't know how to get the USB working anyway
[05:11] <ivoks> Cody_: it goes to sleep every now and then, and it takes some time to wake up
[05:12] <zyth> _douglas, http://www.ubuntulinux.com/wiki/BinaryDriversHowto
[05:12] <Cody_> ivoks; it's like 4-5 times per minute
[05:12] <chombee> ivoks - I also have a USB external cdrom drive that works with the laptop, but it didn't seem to be detected or setup when it was plugged in, not that I would know where to look
[05:12] <microhaxo> YO can anyone help me with configuring Azureus????
[05:12] <Cody_> ivoks: it would sleep that often?
[05:12] <ivoks> Cody_: depends on your setup
[05:12] <microhaxo> kubuntu amd64 I installed but it wont boot to GUI, runnin J2r 1.5.0
[05:12] <ivoks> Cody_: you are using breezy?
[05:12] <zyth> _douglas, er https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:12] <_kevin> microhaxo: do you want help installing or setting it up?
[05:12] <chombee> ivoks - would it be easier to setup a USB cdrom? then i could apt-get from the install cd
[05:12] <microhaxo> installing
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: this things aren't on CDROM
[05:13] <microhaxo> I installed it
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: these are windows drivers
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: you can't apt-get them
[05:13] <microhaxo> but i guess i need to point the old 1.4.2 java to the azureus file
[05:13] <tiglionabbit> chombee: best idea would be to get your bios to boot from the usb cdrom
[05:13] <levander`> Anybody here has tried prelinking their system?
[05:13] <tiglionabbit> if that's possible
[05:13] <chombee> ivoks - I need windows drivers to get this wireless card working?
[05:13] <_kevin> microhaxo: You need to download/Install Java and then get Azereus
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: yes
[05:13] <microhaxo> I have java
[05:13] <chombee> tiglionabbit - I know, but it's impossible
[05:13] <microhaxo> I installed it
[05:13] <tiglionabbit> darn
[05:13] <ivoks> chombee: broadcom sucks
[05:13] <_kevin> microhaxo: So whats the problem now?
[05:13] <microhaxo> Azereus wont run
[05:14] <levander`> prelinking looks scary, talk about breaking package management
[05:14] <chombee> ivoks - do you know anything about configing the USB cdrom? At least I could install gnome
[05:14] <Cody_> ivoks: sorry, missed your last message.
[05:14] <_kevin> microhaxo: Did you follow the guide at www.ubuntuguide.org ?
[05:14] <microhaxo> Azureus TERMINATED.
[05:14] <microhaxo> Ues
[05:14] <ivoks> Cody_: you are using breezy?
[05:14] <cromwell> ok does anyone know how to activate the modem connection without it automatically dialing out?
[05:14] <microhaxo> wtf is breezy?
[05:14] <ivoks> chombee: it shouldn't be a problem
[05:14] <Cody_> ivoks: yup
[05:14] <_kevin> microhaxo: try to run Azureus through the terminal
[05:14] <cpayan> breezy badger :) where do these names come from?
[05:14] <ivoks> Cody_: so, what do you expect?
[05:14] <_kevin> microhaxo: type Azureus in the terminal
[05:14] <ivoks> Cody_: that everything will work?
[05:15] <weijie90> cromwell: if u want to connect to the internet why shoudnt it dial out
[05:15] <ivoks> Cody_: look at topic in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-motu
[05:15] <Cody_> ivoks; i downloaded the latest ... 5.04
[05:15] <ivoks> Cody_: that's not breezy
[05:15] <ivoks> Cody_: that's hoary
[05:15] <_kevin> microhaxo: I followed the guide on ubuntuguide and it worked fine for me.... maybe you installed Azureus before Java
[05:15] <jeremym> hi
[05:15] <_douglas> zyth: That's what I've already done, how do I check my nvidia driver version number?
[05:15] <microhaxo> no i didnt
[05:15] <Cody_> ivoks: sorry, then...  I"m using hoary.
[05:16] <microhaxo> kevin, i get this error
[05:16] <chombee> ivoks - should be autodetected?
[05:16] <microhaxo> from that guide
[05:16] <ivoks> chombee: yes
[05:16] <jeremym> anyone know what the defualt command line browser is
[05:16] <microhaxo> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:16] <microhaxo> E: Couldn't find package azureus
[05:16] <zyth> _douglas, glxinfo ? I don't know
[05:16] <zyth> I have nvidia glx 1.3
[05:16] <cromwell> weijie90: im trying to set my computer to listen for incoming calls.  but without the ppp0 interface active i get all sorts of errors in my mgetty logfile
[05:16] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: that means you don't have a repository listed which azureus is in
[05:16] <ivoks> Cody_: when it "freezes" does your mouse works?
[05:16] <cromwell> weijie90: at least thats my theory
[05:16] <_kevin> microhaxo: You may need to add the repositories nessesary
[05:16] <microhaxo> it doesnt matter, i have azureus dloaded
[05:17] <microhaxo> from the site
[05:17] <weijie90> cromwell: i have no idea
[05:17] <microhaxo> and it still dont work
[05:17] <microhaxo> ....
[05:17] <Cody_> ivoks: nope
[05:17] <chombee> ivoks - and then apt should just get stuff from the cd repository fine?
[05:17] <Cody_> ivoks: it's just like it has a brainfart for a second, and then it comes back.
[05:17] <_douglas> zyth: actually, that's what I was looking for!
[05:17] <weijie90> cromwell: why do u wanna listen to incoming calls?
[05:17] <_douglas> zyth: It seems that they're not the latest drivers.
[05:17] <_kevin> microhaxo: interesting, you downloaded the source?
[05:17] <weijie90> cromwell: never heard of that
[05:17] <ivoks> chombee: apt-cdrom add
[05:17] <examndirtbag> greetings all
[05:17] <zyth> _douglas, I'm not sure, all I know is they work for me :)
[05:17] <ivoks> Cody_: what video card is that?
[05:17] <chombee> ivoks - thanks, I'll try this
[05:18] <cromwell> wiejie90: lol...im trying to share my cable internet
[05:18] <_douglas> zyth: They work for me too, but I'm trying to get more performance
[05:18] <Cody_> ivoks: oh man, it's some laptop video card... nvidia for sure. Should I install the nvidia drivers first?
[05:18] <jeremym> does anyone know if there is a command line browser installed?
[05:18] <microhaxo> i dloaded this
[05:18] <_douglas> zyth: Running steam with cedega
[05:18] <jeremym> or how to install smb server via ssh
[05:18] <nalioth> jeremym: lynx
[05:18] <microhaxo> Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.AMD64.tar.bz2
[05:18] <jeremym> lynx isn't there
[05:18] <nalioth> jeremym: or links
[05:18] <jeremym> searched for both.
[05:18] <ivoks> Cody_: lspci will tell you for sure wich one it is
[05:18] <jeremym> not there.
[05:18] <ivoks> lynx sucks
[05:18] <tiglionabbit> or w3m
[05:18] <nalioth> jeremym: how bout elinks?
[05:18] <ivoks> use links or 23m
[05:18] <ivoks> w3m
[05:18] <jeremym> w3m should be there
[05:18] <jeremym> ?
[05:18] <examndirtbag> if i apt-get kubuntu, can I go back to regular ubuntu if i dont like it?
[05:19] <microhaxo> anyway, the problem is with the new java and amd64 kernel
[05:19] <_kevin> microhaxo: Ohh so you want to compile from source... your making it hard on your self my doing this... I'm pretty sure it's int he repositories... and it'll make your life easier doing it through apt-get
[05:19] <Cody_> ivoks: GeForce2 Go
[05:19] <ivoks> examndirtbag: there is not difference beetwean kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:19] <nalioth> examndirtbag: you are just adding kde
[05:19] <zyth> _douglas, have you adjusted the system resources assigned to the program?  I use point2play, and I have to get Video memory to 128mb and AGP memory to 64MB for WoW to run well
[05:19] <tiglionabbit> examndirtbag: you can get kubuntu-desktop, and later you could uninstall it.  It will add a session to GDM (or use KDM) to log in
[05:19] <ivoks> Cody_: i have that one too
[05:19] <ivoks> Cody_: works without a flaw
[05:19] <jeremym> thank's guys
[05:19] <microhaxo> ok kevin give the the repositorie urls to add into
[05:19] <jeremym> w3m works
[05:19] <Cody_> ivoks: weird...
[05:19] <examndirtbag> ok, thanks
[05:19] <\sh> examndirtbag: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gives u only the additional kde desktop
[05:19] <weijie90> links2 is betta
[05:19] <jeremym> oh, anyone know where the vncserver is?
[05:19] <nalioth> examndirtbag: you will have a choice at login (click on 'sessions')
[05:20] <_kevin> microhaxo: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[05:20] <Cody_> ivoks: it does seem like maybe the hard drive clicks when the pauses occur
[05:20] <microhaxo> I already have those
[05:20] <microhaxo> ....
[05:20] <examndirtbag> quick answers! thanks alot!
[05:20] <tiglionabbit> you're welcome
[05:20] <_douglas> zyth: well, I adjusted them in the profile section of point2play
[05:20] <examndirtbag> well, bye then im gonna try it now.
[05:20] <_douglas> zyth: but not on my box
[05:20] <ivoks> Cody_: you can start with sudo /etc/init.d/laptop-mode stop
[05:21] <_douglas> zyth: well, I mean not anywhere else.
[05:21] <nalioth> Cody_: clicking hard drive spells trouble in morse code
[05:21] <jeremym> is there a vncserver installed? i see a client, no server...if there isn't, how do I get one installed? I tried installing realvnc, but it calls for some libraries that arn't installed
[05:21] <_kevin> microhaxo: search in Synaptic Package Manager for Azureus if you don't find it, it means somethign is wrong with your source list
[05:21] <zyth> that should be all you need.  I dunno man, could just be the limit of what your system can do?
[05:21] <ivoks> Cody_: if that fixes problem, then it's because of your harddrive going to standby
[05:21] <zyth> I gotta run though
[05:22] <microhaxo> not there
[05:22] <ivoks> Cody_: and yes, clicking hard drive is bad, as jeremym told you
[05:22] <weijie90> how do i run a command automatically when kde starts?
[05:22] <nalioth> jeremym: use synaptic to search for whatever you like (pkgs available to install)
[05:22] <Cody_> ivoks: command not found...?
[05:22] <_kevin> microhaxo: I'm sure you made an error while adding the repositories
[05:22] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:22] <_kevin> microhaxo: Pm me
[05:22] <jeremym> synaptic is what?
[05:22] <ivoks> Cody_: sudo apt-get install laptop-mode-tools
[05:22] <flodine> a guys why dont my Xdefault work with ubuntu
[05:23] <jeremym> remember, this machine is headless and i'm using SSH for the time being, can i install it via ssh?
[05:23] <microhaxo> Ok
[05:23] <microhaxo> here is my damn problem
[05:23] <Cody_> ivoks: couldn't find package.
[05:23] <_kevin> jeremym: it's hte Package manager for installing and un-installing files
[05:23] <_kevin> the*
[05:23] <ivoks> flodine: .Xdefaults?
[05:23] <ivoks> Cody_: you are using ubuntu, right?
[05:23] <Cody_> ivoks: LMAO, yes.
[05:23] <flodine> ivoks you use xdefaults
[05:23] <ivoks> Cody_: you didn't enable universe, right?
[05:23] <nalioth> jeremym: synaptic is a gui frontend for apt-get (is easily searchable)
[05:23] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:24] <Cody_> ivoks: I just installed it. I didn't choose anything universe :)
[05:24] <jeremym> kevin: tried, it's already installed according to that
[05:24] <HostingGeek> OMG Hoary is already released
[05:24] <mimi_imut> hi
[05:24] <HostingGeek> I missed it :|
[05:24] <tiglionabbit> yes it is.  I've been using it for a month, HostingGeek
[05:24] <microhaxo> hahaha
[05:24] <joni_> Already haha
[05:24] <ivoks> Cody_: ah... i have to go now..
[05:24] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: I am being sacatic
[05:24] <ivoks> flodine: .Xdefaults
[05:24] <ivoks> flodine: and .Xresources
[05:24] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:24] <HostingGeek> hoping someone will fix up the topic
[05:25] <ivoks> flodine: not Xdefaults
[05:25] <Cody_> ivoks: ok.
[05:25] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: I have been using breezy for the past 3 months
[05:25] <fivre> Hey, I just used the Users and Groups manager to rename my account, and now ubuntu assumes that I'm not allowed to use sudo anymore...  Is there any change to sources.list?
[05:25] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: and hoary for 4 months before it
[05:25] <tiglionabbit> HostingGeek: are you aware of the topic?
[05:25] <flodine> ivoks well i edit my xdefault and aterm colors dont change
[05:25] <Cody_> paxon: mee...
[05:25] <jeremym> thanks for the help
[05:25] <jeremym> im out of here
[05:25] <jeremym> be back tomorrow
[05:25] <chromate> Is it possible to run KDE on Ubuntu?
[05:25] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: I am not a n00b...
[05:25] <paxon> Cody_, xplain?
[05:25] <ivoks> flodine: xrdb -merge .Xdefaults
[05:25] <tiglionabbit> lol, fine
[05:26] <Cody_> paxon: what?
[05:26] <paxon> nv, thanks.
[05:26] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: I am so much not a n00b that I have been banned from #debian for almost 2 years
[05:26] <chombee> ivoks - apt-cdrom add fails to mount it
[05:26] <joni_> How can I transfer songs to my ipod?
[05:26] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:26] <joni_> I can see the songs that are on it but i can't figure out how to transfer songs to it
[05:26] <tiglionabbit> fivre: is your account set to have administrator privileges?  You can edit the sudoers list by saying `visudo`
[05:26] <chromate> joni_: use a program like gtkpod or amarok
[05:27] <joni_> chromate: is it possible with Rhythmbox?
[05:27] <flodine> ivoks thxs man your the Sh...t
[05:27] <tiglionabbit> HostingGeek: why'd that happen?
[05:27] <TotalYK> hi all
[05:27] <TotalYK> i'm using ubuntu for PC desktop
[05:27] <TotalYK> what soft can i using for playing mp3
[05:27] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?
[05:27] <TotalYK> ?
[05:28] <r0bby> idiot question, how do you remove grub from one drive?
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> TotalYK: you can use several programs ,but you'll need the codecs
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[05:28] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:28] <HostingGeek> tiglionabbit: who isn't on the ban list in #debian
[05:28] <HostingGeek> !ubotu ubuntu
[05:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is Open the gates To East and West Bring in all That's good and best. - Lenrie Peter
[05:28] <Guerin> r0bby: replace the boot record with something else
[05:28] <Guerin> ?
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> me, but I haven't been in there for a bit since I started using Ubuntu
[05:28] <microhaxo> what the hell
[05:28] <microhaxo> ./azureus: line 107: /usr/javajava: No such file or directory
[05:28] <HostingGeek> !ubotu ubuntu is #ubotu
[05:28] <ubotu> ...but ubuntu is already something else...
[05:28] <microhaxo> how is that so!
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> I get banned from windows channels more often anyway
[05:29] <HostingGeek> !ubotu forget ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> i forgot ubuntu, HostingGeek
[05:29] <HostingGeek> !ubotu ubuntu is #ubotu
[05:29] <Guerin> microhaxo: ls -l /usr/javajava
[05:29] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I don't know
[05:29] <r0bby> if that doesnt exist install it
[05:29] <cpayan> !ubotu ubuntu
[05:29] <HostingGeek> !ubotu ubuntu is ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> okay, HostingGeek
[05:29] <cpayan> hah
[05:29] <cthulfuego> Can we stop abusing the bot now?
[05:29] <microhaxo> what?
[05:29] <cthulfuego> Or do I need to switch it off?
[05:29] <cpayan> "Somebody already said that 10 seconds ago"
[05:30] <cpayan> neat
[05:30] <microhaxo> guerin
[05:30] <microhaxo> what do i do?
[05:30] <HostingGeek> cpayan: WTF where you doing in my channel spamming :D
[05:30] <HostingGeek> cya all
[05:30] <cpayan> just kinda lookin around a bit
[05:30] <_kevin> i wanna post my ubuntu screenshot on ubuntu users screenshot, if there is such a thing
[05:30] <tiglionabbit> what was microhaxo's prob?
[05:30] <r0bby> i have a question
[05:31] <r0bby> actually already asked
[05:31] <r0bby> :P
[05:31] <bassinboy> man, my video is REALLY old, and ubuntu only allows for 640x480........ how can i atleast get 800x600 ?
[05:31] <fivre> hmmm... So, I'm apparently screwed...
[05:31] <the_dead> Can someone help me install my Senao SL 2511 EXT2 PLUS?  I cant get it to work in ubuntu but it works fine on knoppix live cd.
[05:31] <r0bby> how do you remove grub from a drive
[05:31] <cpayan> _kevin, i think there's an art gallery over at ubuntuforums
[05:31] <chombee> ivoks - if I manage to mount the cdrom myself, can apt then use it without having to mount it itself?
[05:31] <tiglionabbit> bassinboy: you can add it as a mode to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:31] <Guerin> r0bby: replace the boot record with something else?
[05:31] <_kevin> ok thanks cpayan
[05:31] <microhaxo> i need to point to the old JAVA files  in azureus or whatever and it says that the directory dont exist.
[05:32] <Guerin> microhaxo: don't use java or azureus -> problem solved
[05:32] <tiglionabbit> chombee: you'll need to add it to sources.list
[05:32] <cthulfuego> Guerin: <heh>
[05:32] <fivre> heck, I don't even have a /etc/sudoers file
[05:32] <tiglionabbit> I like Guerin's solution.  Use bittornado instead
[05:32] <microhaxo> hahaha
[05:32] <microhaxo> that dont work ETHER!
[05:32] <microhaxo> it says installed
[05:32] <microhaxo> but
[05:32] <PaloDeQueso> How do I check my kernel version?
[05:32] <microhaxo> when i click on torrent
[05:32] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: 'uname -a'
[05:32] <bassinboy> uname -a
[05:32] <microhaxo> bah it dont work
[05:33] <chombee> Okay!  Did a man apt-cdrom and saw how to point it at the mount point
[05:38] <bassinboy> tiglionabbit: yes
[05:38] <chombee> it's reading package lists now!
[05:38] <Guerin> mr. chombee has the flaw!
[05:38] <chombee> Guerin - you got it
[05:38] <Guerin> ah, what a choon
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> bassinboy: and so you've restarted X, now can you go to system->preferences->screen resolution and select another one?  If not, I don't know what you can do, short of dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[05:39] <Bisclaveret> Guerin: is that better than the fear?
[05:39] <joni_> ok, lets settle down now
[05:39] <Guerin> Bisclaveret: much.
[05:39] <djs> capi: System -> Administration -> Networking - change properties of desired connection to "Static IP Address"
[05:39] <Guerin> hey joni_, put it all behind you...
[05:39] <bassinboy> tiglionabbit: for one, i have XFree86
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> bassinboy: oh.  why's that?
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> I thought ubuntu used xorg
[05:40] <capi> djs, how do I do that in CLI?
[05:40] <bassinboy> tiglionabbit: not warty
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> o
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> could dist-upgrade, or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[05:41] <paxon> I have a problem with apt-get update, anyone can point me to the right repositories please?
[05:41] <joni_> I have a WUSB11 v2.8, how can i find out if it is atmel based?
[05:41] <microhaxo> yo
[05:41] <microhaxo> this MP3 player wont play my music
[05:41] <_kevin> everyone can check out my current desktop on ubuntuforums under artwork and gnome desktop
[05:41] <microhaxo> amarok
[05:41] <tiglionabbit> paxon: most of the repositories you need are commented out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <tiglionabbit> there are also the backports repositories
[05:42] <paxon> tiglionabbit, I need a new list.
[05:42] <tiglionabbit> a new list?
[05:42] <paulproteus> microhaxo: Have you been to the Wiki page called RestrictedFormats?
[05:42] <_kevin> microhaxo check if it's using the ALSA or eSound plugin
[05:42] <paulproteus> It may help you, microhaxo.
[05:42] <chombee> ivoks, tiglionabbit - apt-get is asking me to insert the disc on the drive /cdrom now, do you know where it wants me to mount the device? I don't see it specified in sources.list
[05:42] <microhaxo> says no SOUND plugin
[05:42] <microhaxo> :|
[05:42] <djs> capi: One way is to edit (as superuser) the file /etc/network/interfaces
[05:42] <microhaxo> ARE YOU KIDDING ME
[05:42] <microhaxo> I CANT PLAY MY MP3's!
[05:42] <_kevin> microhaxo you can
[05:42] <microhaxo> ...
[05:42] <microhaxo> i almost died
[05:42] <microhaxo> k how?
[05:42] <ghostless> How can I run without starting x11?
[05:42] <_kevin> microhaxo you need the libraries to play them
[05:42] <Guerin> microhaxo: life sucks. better give your computer away and become a travelling monk.
[05:43] <microhaxo> I have like 40 albums
[05:43] <microhaxo> where do i get the libraries?
[05:43] <_kevin> microhaxo synaptic, search mp3
[05:43] <microhaxo> k
[05:43] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[05:43] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:43] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: read that ^
[05:43] <_kevin> microhaxo I have over 1000 albums
[05:43] <microhaxo> there is like 300 mp3 stuff kevin?
[05:44] <chombee> microhaxo - install xmms, beep-media-player, or gstreamer0.8-mad, for example
[05:44] <microhaxo> k
[05:44] <tiglionabbit> amarok is pretty nice
[05:44] <_kevin> there is a library for mp3 files
[05:44] <_kevin> get it
[05:44] <chombee> Anyone know where I should mount a cdrom so that apt-get will find it?
[05:44] <microhaxo> i dont see it kevin?
[05:44] <_kevin> gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:44] <djs> capi:  see "man interfaces" for more info on this file
[05:44] <_kevin> my bad
[05:44] <ghostless> How can I start ubuntu without starting X? As in I want to run all text based
[05:45] <_kevin> microhaxo search for gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:45] <chombee> it is looking for the drive '/cdrom/'
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> chombee: try mounting it there then =P
[05:45] <chombee> tiglionabbit - in /cdrom/, from the root?
[05:45] <microhaxo> installed
[05:46] <fivre> tiglionrabbit: nope, definitely can't get into an admin account
[05:47] <fivre> am I stuck with a reinstall?
[05:47] <chombee> tiglionabbit - it works! I'm apt-getting. Now hopefully if all goes well I can worry about ndiswrapper tomorrow
[05:47] <jem> Please, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?
[05:48] <chombee> I hope apt-get can survive the buffer errors while installing ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop, shit
[05:48] <chombee> no it can't
[05:48] <bob2> microhaxo: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestriectedFormats
[05:48] <bob2> ghostless: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm
[05:48] <microhaxo> WTF
[05:49] <ghostless> bob2, what if I want to do it just once or twice
[05:49] <_kevin> netsplit
[05:49] <ghostless> grrr
[05:49] <_kevin> when all these ppl rejoin I'm going to lag
[05:50] <chombee> Is there an apt-get option to make it keep retrying forever in the face of errors?
[05:50] <bob2> ghostless: then emove it from runlevel 3 and boot into that if you wanot no gdm
[05:50] <fivre> ok, anyone else
[05:50] <bob2> chombee: no
[05:50] <ghostless> bob2, ok thats beyond me so nevermind I guess haha
[05:50] <jem> Please, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?
[05:51] <chombee> bob2 - it seems this cdrom is too error prone to use with apt then
[05:51] <cthulfuego> ghostless: You can use 'rcconf' to quickly switch 'em on and off.
[05:51] <fivre> if I somehow am no longer a sudoer, and I don't have an admin account to visudo, am I stuck reinstalling the OS?
[05:51] <microhaxo> so wtf
[05:51] <bob2> fivre: of course not
[05:51] <bob2> no os is going to make you do that
[05:51] <bob2> jem: disable one on the bios
[05:51] <bob2> chombee: er, apt doesn't care, it's the kernel that's giving up
[05:51] <fivre> ok then, what do I do?
[05:51] <cthulfuego> fivre: No, boot it up in rescue mode and re-add yourself to the sudoers file.
[05:51] <Cody_> ivoks: it's just like it has a brainfart for a second, and then it comes back.
[05:51] <bob2> fivre: reboot.  go to the grub menu.  select "recover".  add yourself to the admin group.
[05:52] <Cody_> I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop... I had fedora previously. With Ubuntu, I have a new problem. A few times per minute, X will simply freeze for a second and resume.
[05:52] <fivre> ah
[05:52] <bob2> also, renaming accounts is a bad idea
[05:52] <fivre> so I learned
[05:52] <ghostless> cthulfuego, ok so where is this "rcconf"
[05:52] <jem> Please, How may I change the default card sound if I have 2 of them?
[05:52] <fivre> that really isn't a good feature...
[05:52] <microhaxo> where do i get a SOUND ENGINE?
[05:52] <ghostless> cthulfuego, nvm
[05:52] <ghostless> cthulfuego, thanks a bunch =)
[05:52] <cthulfuego> ghostless: apt-get install rcconf; rcconf
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> chombee: ?  can't you use apt-cdrom ?
[05:52] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: Buy a second hand car and take it out.
[05:52] <bob2> jem: disable one in the bios
[05:53] <bob2> microhaxo: "sound engine" is not a technical term that exists
[05:53] <microhaxo> what do i search for to get the sound library / codec
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> microhaxo: have you read the restricted formats faq yet?
[05:53] <bob2> microhaxo: you need to be more speciufic
[05:53] <microhaxo> amarok says no sound ENGINE
[05:53] <cthulfuego> microhaxo: What sound library and/or codec?
[05:53] <bob2> microhaxo: the page I pointed you at explains this, I woud assume
[05:53] <microhaxo> it just says
[05:53] <jem> Bob2another way changing a parameter?
[05:53] <microhaxo> Amarok No sound engine
[05:54] <bob2> microhaxo: so, fix amarok
[05:54] <ghostless> cthulfuego, thanks it works easy =)
[05:54] <microhaxo> "No engine loaded, Cannot start playback"
[05:54] <microhaxo> Yea
[05:54] <microhaxo> what file do i neeD?
[05:54] <bob2> microhaxo: search for amaraok and install whatever other packages exist
[05:54] <bob2> no "file"
[05:54] <tiglionabbit> you probably need a library like gstreamer.  I ask for the fourth time, have you read the restricted formats faq
[05:54] <tiglionabbit> ?
[05:54] <chombee> tiglionabbit - I did use apt-cdrom, then I have to mount it to /cdrom, then I can apt-get, but it gets a lot of buffer errors
[05:54] <bob2> jem: blacklist one of the modules in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:54] <paulproteus> microhaxo: If you don't know where to get the restrictedformats faq, ask us. :)
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> chombee: you can mount it wherever you want.  man apt-cdrom
[05:55] <jem> I see
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[05:55] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:55] <microhaxo> lol
[05:55] <chombee> tiglionabbit - doesn't matter, I just mounted it where it was looking anyway
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> buffer errors?
[05:55] <microhaxo> k
[05:55] <microhaxo> got it workin
[05:56] <tiglionabbit> um good.  Now enjoy your music, and rtff next time
[05:56] <microhaxo> hahahaha
[05:56] <microhaxo> lol
[05:56] <chombee> tiglionabbit - yeah, hundreds of Buffer I/O error on device sr0. What does it mean?
[05:57] <chombee> is that a hardware problem?
[05:57] <paulproteus> chombee: Means your CD is probably bad.
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> no idea
[05:57] <paulproteus> But I'm surprised your CD-ROM drive shows up at sr0.  Is it external, maybe?  Is it SCSI?
[05:57] <chombee> paulproteus - or the cdrom or the USB connection more likely. The cd was used fine to install on another machine
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> paulproteus: he said it was usb
[05:58] <paulproteus> tiglionabbit: Thanks, sorry I'm in another channel primarily.
[05:58] <paulproteus> Or the drive is allergic to this disc.
[05:58] <chombee> paulproteus - could I have mounted it with the wrong fs? I guess not cause I am able to browse the mounted volume
[05:58] <paulproteus> chombee: No, this is a lower-level problem than picking the wrong filesystem.
[05:58] <paulproteus> lower-level meaning "closer to the hardware".
[05:58] <Bisclaveret> where do all the bits go after building something from apt-get -b source, as in, does it just stay in a directory somewhere after building and installing? will apt-get clean remove them and the working files?
[05:58] <chombee> paulproteus - the USB connection is dodgy
[05:59] <tiglionabbit> say, I have a question.  My drive is formatted as ext3.  When I boot, it says something about ext2fs, and every 30 times it has to check the disk.  This doesn't seem right..
[05:59] <paulproteus> chombee: Oh, I see.
[05:59] <cthulfuego> tiglionabbit: That's normal.
[05:59] <tiglionabbit> I thought ext3 was journaling, and didn't have to fscheck all the time
[05:59] <chombee> Goddamn it! This laptop has no internal cdrom, a broken lan card, an unsupported ext wireless card, and an ext cdrom on a broken USB connection. Argh!
[05:59] <paulproteus> tiglionabbit: In your /etc/fstab , make sure the filesystem is set to 'ext3' rather than 'ext2'.
[05:59] <cthulfuego> tiglionabbit: That would normally equate to a check every 2 years ;-)
[06:00] <paulproteus> chombee: Yeah.  It's times like that I just take the hard drive out and install it on something else.
[06:00] <paulproteus> chombee: Or be *really careful* with the USB.
[06:00] <joni_> Is anyone familiar with the WUSB11?
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> yes, it's ext3
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> so why does it need to check it?
[06:00] <paulproteus> chombee: You may find it easier to do a "server" install rather than a full one from the CD.
[06:00] <chombee> paulproteus - that's whay I did! I did a server install, and ended up with the HD back in and no way to get packages
[06:00] <paulproteus> Then do the rest via network or something...?
[06:00] <paulproteus> chombee: I see.
[06:01] <jem> Bob2,now how I may restart it?
[06:01] <paulproteus> chombee: You didn't happen to copy the CD contents to that hard drive, did you?
[06:01] <paulproteus> (I thought the installer did that automatically at the end, anyway.)
[06:01] <chombee> paulproteus - I put the HD in another machine and did server install, but once I put the HD back I have no network and no cdrom
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> also, I've found if I try to skip the check it fails to start up
[06:01] <PaloDeQueso> I just downloaded linux-source-2.6.10, what link do I make and where to get nvidia drivers to compile a module right?
[06:01] <chombee> paulproteus - explain ?
[06:01] <fivre> bob2: how do I make myself an admin via the GRUB command line?
[06:01] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Just run module-assistant
[06:01] <paulproteus> The install, if I recall correctly, copies the CD's contents to /var/cache/apt/archives .
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> say, where does it save the log of the messages it prints out when starting up?
[06:02] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , erm, what's that?
[06:02] <cthulfuego> PaloDeQueso: Your saviour.
[06:02] <Quequeg> tiglionabbit, try 'dmesg'
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> Quequeg: nope
[06:02] <paulproteus> chombee: Maybe we should work on getting the wifi to work, so you can get yourself up from there.  What card is it?
[06:02] <PaloDeQueso> cthulfuego , k, brb
[06:02] <paulproteus> (And do you use WEP on your network?)
[06:03] <fivre> or anyone really: how do I make myself an admin via the GRUB command line?
[06:03] <cthulfuego> fivre: adduser <username> admin
[06:03] <chombee> paulproteus - no cd contents at that location. The wireless card is unsupported, may work with ndiswrapper - but I can't download it! Anyway - it's a LinkSys Wireless-G WPC54G